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 THE JEWS IN ROUMANIA 
 
 SPEECH 
 
 OF 
 
 HON. J. HAMPTON MOORE 
 
 THE 
 
 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 
 
 TUESDAY, JUNE 24, 1913 
 
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 WASHIXGTON 
 1913
 
 HOX. J. HAMPTON MOORE. 
 
 Mr. MOORE. Mr. Speaker, at the instance of certain of my constituents who 
 are students of international conditions, I have introduced a resolution request- 
 ing the Secretary of State to inform the House with respect to the prospects of 
 an adjustment of the problem of the Jews in Roumania. Since the Russo- 
 Turkish War and the Berlin treaty of July, 1878, there have been frequent 
 reports of the failure of the Roumanian Government to observe that clause of 
 the treaty which provided that citizenship should not be denied on account of 
 religion. It is claimed by Jews who have migrated to the United States that 
 the citizenship clause was inserted on the motion of the French plenipotentiary, 
 M. Waddington, seconded by Lord Disraeli, of England, especially with a view 
 to the rights of those natives of Rouuiauia who responded to the Jewish faith. 
 It appears that these complaints were officially recognized by John Hay, the 
 Secretary of State, in 1902, and that there was considerable diplomatic corre- 
 spondence with reference thereto, without effectuating relief. As late as 1904 
 it was reported to the Secretary of State that a better feeling existed as between 
 the so-called "indigenous Jews/' and the Government and that certain of the 
 Jewish newspapers advised " a'gainst any measures from outside in behalf of 
 Roumanian Jews." 
 
 Little appears to have been done since 1904 by the United States or any other 
 country to induce the Roumanian Government to place itself in harmony with 
 the other powers signatory to the Berlin treaty on the Jewish citizenship ques- 
 tion. The attitude of the Roumanian Government, hedged about as it is by 
 contending and ambitious powers, appears to have been directed toward keeping 
 the Roumanian nationality free from possible Jewish assimilation. It was esti- 
 mated by Mr. Hay in 1902 that the number of Jews in Roumauia all told did 
 not exceed 400,000. It appeared, however, that the Roumanians, numbering 
 7,000,000 or 8,000,000, were fearful of being overrun, and that this constituted 
 the real objection to the observance of the Berlin treaty with regard to the 
 Jews. The adoption of any naturalization agreement which would enforce the 
 rccivirnition of Jews not indigenous to Roumania seems to have been objected to 
 upon the same ground. 
 
 The failure of Roumania to treat with the United States in this matter might 
 be excused, because the United States was not a party to the treaty of Berlin. 
 At iirst blush it must be conceded that notwithstanding the human rights 
 involved, to say nothing of the breach of treaty stipulations, the United State.-; 
 has no right to meddle in this affair. Apparently this thought has been in the 
 minds of diplomats, who, with the exception of Mr. Hay, have hitherto ap- 
 proached the question with great delicacy. While Mr. Hay was characteris- 
 tically diplomatic, he was also extremely frank, and did not hesitate in his 
 instructions to the American minister to Greece and Roumania to point out the 
 political disabilities of the Jews in Roumania and the effect of Roumanian 
 oppressive measures upon their manhood. Mr. Hay even maintained that by 
 reason of the conditions prevailing in the country of their birth many of them 
 on i i grated to the United States, upon which an additional responsibility was 
 imposed because of such immigration. He raised the rather novel point that 
 "human beings so circumstanced have virtually no alternatives but submissive 
 suffering or flight to some land less unfavorable to them " 
 
 And that 
 
 " such emigration is necessarily for a time a burden upon the community upon 
 which fugitives may be cast." 
 
 Continuing, Secretary of State Hay said: 
 
 "Self-reliance and the knowledge and ability that evolve the power of self- 
 support must be developed and at the same time avenues of employment must 
 
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 be opened in quarters where competition is already keen and opportunities 
 scarce. The teachings of history and the experience of our own Nation show 
 that the Jews possess in a high degree the mental and moral qualifications of 
 conscientious citizenhood. No class of emigrants is more welcome to our 
 shores when coming equipped in mind and body for entrance upon the struggle 
 for bread and inspired with the high purpose to give the best service of heart 
 and brain to the land they adopt of their own free will. But when they come 
 as outcasts, made doubly paupers by physical and moral oppression in their 
 native land, and thrown upon the long-suffering generosity of a more-favored 
 community, their migration lacks the essential conditions which make alien 
 immigration either acceptable or benefical. So well is this appreciated on the 
 Continent that even in the countries where antiseniitisni has no foothold it 
 is difficult for these fleeing Jews to obtain any lodgment. America is their 
 only goal." 
 
 Since this important declaration by one of the greatest of our Secretaries of 
 .State there has been a steady flow of Roumanian Jew immigration to the 
 United States, until it is estimated that not more than 2r>o.<)00 or .'JOO.OOO 
 indigenous Jews continue to reside in Roumania. This is indicative of their 
 lack of opportunity and the great disadvantages under which they continue 
 their Roumanian r<>si<!"ii!v. 
 
 In May last the Federation of Roumanian Jews of Philadelphia, at an open 
 meeting in that city, passed resolutions urging Congress to again take up the 
 troublesome problem. 
 
 And here 1 want to interpolate that a meeting of Roumanian Jews was held 
 in New York City a week ago at which considerable feeling was manii 
 An organization was perfected, for which as honorary chairman was named the 
 distinguished Speaker of this House, the Hon. CHAMP CLARK, of Missouri. 
 Others who were mentioned as being officers of that federation are our col- 
 leagues, Messrs. GOLDFOGLE and LEVY, of New York, and our former colleague, 
 William S. Bennet, Judge Rosa! ski, and others. 
 
 Mr. CALDER. Will the gentleman yield? 
 
 The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman from Pennsylvania yield to the gentle- 
 man from New York [Mr. CALDEE] ''. 
 
 Mr. MOORE. I do. 
 
 Mr. CALDER. Will the gentleman advise the House how many Jews there 
 are in Roumania at this time? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. It is said there are about 250.000 or 300.000 remaining there. 
 The correspondence of Secretary Hay in 1902 indicated that there were -JOu.OOO. 
 
 Mr. CALDER. Can the gentleman state if the Jews in Roumania are allowed 
 to attend the public schools? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. They are allowed to do so after all of the Roumanian children 
 are provided for, but usually there is no room after the Roumanian children 
 are taken care of. As a rule they build schools and pay taxes, hut ilu-y have 
 no citizenship, no right to hold office, no right to certain employments, no right 
 to own lands, and no right to ask protection of any Government. They are 
 regarded as aliens without a country ; yet they are indigenous, born to the soil. 
 
 Mr. CALDER. Are they compelled to serve in the army? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. They are compelled to serve in the army and to endure ail the 
 rigors resulting therefrom. And they are in some respects frowned upon by 
 the population of Roumauia. who regard them as ambitious and who think that 
 if any opportunities were given to them at all they would overflow the country. 
 
 Mr. HARRISON of New York. Is the gentleman aware that there is a com- 
 mittee now forming in New York, composed of American citizens, to present to 
 our country the views the gentleman is so ably expressing upon the floor? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. Yes; I know that to be the fact. There was a large meeting 
 there last week, at which a permanent organization was formed, to give ex- 
 pression to various grievances of the Jews who have left that country. It is 
 a natural desire of those who have left Roumania to aid those who have been 
 left behind. 
 
 Mr. SABATH. Will the gentleman yield? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. I will. 
 
 Mr. SABATH. Is it not true that those born in Roumania are not recognized 
 as citizens? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. That is true, and there is no way for them to become citizens, 
 even though the treaty of Berlin required that they should not be prejudiced 
 by reason of their religion, except as I have stated. 
 
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 They have only the right to go to Parliament itself, and Parliament, of 
 course, is a very large body, aud, in a smaller degree, like the Congress of the 
 United States, which, of course, would not have much time or inclination to 
 deal with the naturalization of an individual. A very small proportion of them 
 have obtained the right in this way. 
 
 Mr. SAB ATI I. Is it not also true that Roumauia has violated the Berlin 
 treaty tirno ;.<!id time again? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. There is no doubt about that. The Roumanian Government 
 desires to avoid dealing with other nations on this question at all. I have 
 quoted Secretary Hay as showing one point upon which it might be possible for 
 the United States to intervene. In 11)02 the Secretary did undertake to have 
 the signatory powers approach Romnania; but it is not certain that any of 
 them did this with any enthusiasm, although every one of the signatory powers 
 to tho Berlin treaty except Romnania did live up to the agreement, which pro- 
 vided that Jews should not bo debarred from citizenship. 
 
 Mr. GOLDFOGLE. Will the gentleman yield? 
 
 The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman from Pennsylvania has expired. 
 
 Mr. GOLDFOGLE. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the gentle- 
 man be permitted to conclude his remarks. 
 
 The SPEAKER. The gentleman from New York asks unanimous consent 
 that the gentleman from Pennsylvania be permitted to conclude his remarks. 
 Is there objection? [After a pause.] The Chair hears none. 
 
 Mr. GOLDFOGLE. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman now yield for a ques- 
 tion? 
 
 The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman yield? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. I do. 
 
 Mr. GOLDFOGLE. Did not Secretary Hay. while of course conceding that 
 America was not a parly to the treaty, take the ground that the United States 
 might well appeal to the powers to require the observance of the Berlin treaty 
 upon principles of international law and principles of natural justice? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. He tcok that ground substantially, and was even a little 
 more spev-itio. He indicated that inasmuch as the effect of the oppression of 
 the Jews by the Roumanian Government was to make them restless and drive 
 them out, in consequence of which many of them came to the United States, 
 that therefore the United States had an interest in them and in the rights 
 which they claimed were denied them. 
 
 Mr. GOLDFOGLE. Following the line of questions put before to the gen- 
 tleman from Pennsylvania, I would like to ask the gentleman whether it is not 
 a fact. that freedom of worship is denied to the Jew in Roumania and that the 
 Jew there is in this position : That while born there, he is, nevertheless, 
 regarded as an alien and is at the same time denied all foreign protection? 
 
 Mr. MOO I IE. That is substantially true. He is a native and still without 
 the protection of any country on earth. He was born in Roumania. He has 
 been there since the eighth century, and yet ha has no right of citizenship, 
 except as Parliament shall grant that right to the individual, and he is still 
 amenable to any punishment that may be imposed upon him by the Govern- 
 ment. He has not the right to appeal to a foreign power. He stands alone 
 " a man without a country.'' 
 
 Mr. MANX. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? 
 
 The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman from Pennsylvania yield to the gentle- 
 man from Illinois? 
 
 Mr. MOO HE. I do. 
 
 Mr. MANX. The gentleman refers to the Roumanian Jew as "a man with- 
 out a country " while he is in Roumania. How does he become a citizen of 
 the United States? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. He becomes a citizen of the United States when he has been 
 here five years, if he applies 
 
 Mr. MANX. "A man without a country" can not become a citizen of tho 
 United States from anywhere. 
 
 Mr. MOORE. If the laws of the United States were strictly enforced in regard 
 to Jews, subject to Roumanian law. who were not citizens of Roumauia, it might 
 be difficult for them to forswear their country. 
 
 Mr. MA XX. The laws of naturalization are strictly enforced, I may say to 
 the gentleman. 
 
 Mr. MOORE. Then the question of humanity arises and tho effect upon the 
 United States Government, which thus has received within its borders men who 
 are citizens of no country at all. 
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 Mr. GOLDFOGLE. Mr. Speaker, may I interrupt the gentleman from Penn- 
 sylvania in order to make a suggestion to the gentleman from Illinois? 
 
 The SPEAK KH. Does the gentleman from Pennsylvania yield? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. Yes. 
 
 Mr. GOLDFOGLE. In the eyes of the law, as the gentleman from Illinois 
 well says, the individual Jew born in Rouinauia is a subject of the King of 
 Rouniania, so that when he conies here and applies for naturalization in due 
 time he may well be regarded in the eyes of our law as a subject of the King 
 of Eoumania and foreswear his allegiance to him. 
 
 Mr. MANN. Of course there is no doubt about it. and I simply thought the 
 gentleman from Pennsylvania was using a little hyperbole when he was talking 
 about " a man without a country " when he was born in Iloumauia. 
 
 Mr. GOLDFOGLE. That is the practical effect. 
 
 Mr. MOORE. I will quote what is given to me as to the political status 
 of the Jew of Roumauia. As regarded by that Government, he is " an alien, 
 not subject to any foreign protection." That partly answers the gentleman's 
 question, but later I will submit other data. 
 
 Mr. MONDELL. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? 
 
 Mr. MANN. Does the gentleman yield? 
 
 The SPEAKER. To whom does the gentleman from Pennsylvania yield? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. I will yield first to the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. MANN]. 
 
 Mr. MANN. I have no doubt the gentleman has quoted correctly, but I would 
 doubt the correctness of the authority. If the Jew is a Roumanian when he 
 comes here, there is no way by which he could become a naturalized citizen of 
 the United States. I do not think that that is the case. 
 
 Mr. MOORE. The fact remains that the Roumanian Jew is not a citizen of 
 Rouniania unless he is specially qualified by the Parliament. 
 
 Mr. MANN. I question that. 
 
 Mr. MONDELL. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. Yes. 
 
 Mr. MONDELL. Would it not be more accurate to say, on the basis of the 
 facts that the gentleman has stated, that the Roumanian Jew is a man without 
 citizenship who can become naturalized under our law because he is unquestiou- 
 bly a subject of Roumauia, but not a citizen of Rouniania ; but as a man who, 
 without possessing citizenship, is still a subject, he may thus become naturalized 
 under our laws? 
 
 Mr. MOORE. I thank the gentleman for distinguishing between a citizen 
 and a subject. The two gentlemen who have addressed this question to me are 
 lawyers and qualified to pass upon naturalization questions. 
 
 Mr. MONDELL. The gentleman who last spoke is not a lawyer. 
 
 Mr. MOORE. It is not the most lucrative practice at the bar and it is a kind 
 of practice which most lawyers hesitate to indulge in, with the result that pos- 
 sibly there may be quibbles when great lawyers undertake to decide these 
 questions here. 
 
 Mr. MONDELL. The gentleman who last spoke is not a lawyer. 
 
 Mr. MOORE. He talks like a lawyer, and just as well as a lawyer. 
 
 Mr. MANN. He talks better than a lawyer, but he is not one. Both the 
 gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. MOORE] and the gentleman from Wyoming 
 [Mr. MONDELL] talk better than lawyers and talk more. [Laughter.] 
 
 Mr. MONDELL. What I have said is merely the opinion of a layman. 
 
 The SPEAKER. Both gentlemen not only talk well, but both talk at once, 
 which is contrary to the rule. [Laughter.] 
 
 Mr. MOORE. I desire to conclude this address in 10 minutes, having prom- 
 ised not to occupy the time of the House longer than that, and so I ask at this 
 point to revise and extend my remarks. 
 
 The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Pennsylvania asks unanimous consent 
 to extend his remarks. Is there objection? 
 
 There was no objection. 
 
 Mr. MOORE. Mr. Speaker, I shall append to these remarks some of the 
 statements authorized by the officers of the federation. They plead for the 
 friendly intercession of the United States on behalf of their brethren who have 
 not been so fortunate as to pass from the Roumanian borders to the United 
 States. It is in their interest that I have introduced the resolution requesting 
 the Secretary of State to inform the House whether it is not time to renew 
 the effort to do an act of simple justice to the unfortunate Jews of Roumauia. 
 [Applause.] 
 
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 BASIS OF Til?: GRIEVANCES. 
 
 From a statement submitted to mo by the Federation of Roumanian Jewg 
 of Philadelphia, of which Dr. M. Y. Bolbor is president, A. B. Gohlenberg. secre- 
 tary, and Samuel Shoyer, treasurer, these cliief points of grievance are taken: 
 
 First. At the Berlin congress of isTs the high contracting powers decreed in 
 article 44 of the treaty that religion shall bar none from the full enjoyment of 
 the rights and privileges of citizenship in Roumania. 
 
 Second. The Roumanian Government has to this date failed to execute the 
 provisions of article 44 of the Berlin treaty by denying its native subjects of 
 the Jewish faith the rights and privileges of citizenship enjoyed by the rest of 
 the population. 
 
 Third. The present political status of the native Jews of and within Ron- 
 mania is defined by the Roumanian Government as "aliens m>t subject to any 
 foreign protection."- thereby expatriating tliem from their land of nativity, 
 denying them allegiance to or protecti.ni from any other government. 
 
 Fourth. Over ~<;o governmental restrictions are now in force against the 
 native Jewish inhabitants, which deny them every human right and close to 
 them almosi every avenue of earning a livelihood in Koumania. 
 
 The statement of detailed facts submitted by the federation also constitutes 
 the argument for the friendly intercession of the United States. It is as 
 follows : 
 
 STATKMKXT OF FACTS AROUT THK JEWISH JT*KSTIOX IN KOUMANIA. 
 
 "When the Riisso-Turkish War broke out in 1S77. Russia claimed that her 
 only object in fighting the Turks w:;s to free the Christ i:;ns from Mussulmanic 
 oppression. Koumania. then a tributary .State of Turkey, fought by the side of 
 Russia for tin- same reasons. 
 
 "On the 1st day of July. isTS. while the peace congress was in progress at 
 Berlin, lemeiubering that the Jews of Roumania were the subject of persecu- 
 tion under the Roumanian rule, as were the Christians under that of the 
 Turks. M. Waddington, the French plenipotentiary, arose and moved that re- 
 ligion shall be no bar to tho enjoyment of all civil and political rights in 
 Roumania. The motion was seconded by Benjamin Disraeli [Lord Beacousfield] 
 for England. A similar motion was made for Servia. Bulgaria, and Montenegro 
 by M. Waddington for Fran.' 'onded by Bismarck for Germany aud 
 
 de Lan:!;:y for Italy. As regards Roumania. the provision is incorporated 
 under article J4 of th ' treaty of Berlin. Koumania was given independence 
 under article 4-'> of the same treaty, subject to the faithful observance of 
 article 44. 
 
 "The treaty was signed by Fngl.md, France, Germany, Russia, Austria, 
 Italy, and Turkey. 
 
 "Servia. Bulgaria, and Montenegro had faithfully observed the mandate of 
 the powers. Roumania alone ignored it. 
 
 "After }; -oncliided. K<"MI:;M-!:I amended article 7 of her constitution, 
 
 which reads, in substance an , ihat Parliament alone shall confer the 
 
 rights of citizenship, and that only upon individual applications. The Jews 
 were not lo be enfranchised en masse, as was the sense of the treaty. Since 
 IsTS until (lie beginning of the present Turko-Balkan War about 200 Jews 
 were naturalized by this moiho.l and only a couple of hundred more since the 
 two month 1 -!, which, of course, is only intended to throw dust in the eyes 
 of Europe. 
 
 THE RESTRICTIONS. 
 
 "Jews have no right to vote or hold public office, be it ever so humble. They 
 are not given any contract work by the Government, even if they do it 5 per 
 cent cheaper than the Roumanians. They can not be employed in the railroad, 
 postal, telephone, or tel<- rvice. They can not own land, live or do 
 
 business in villages, or even hire out as laborers upon farms. They are not 
 admitted into the State's schools until all th; c.'iildr.Mi of the Roumanians are 
 accommodated, and then only upon the payment of a tax. There are not many 
 schools there, so the Jewish children are generally left out. So they must, 
 maintain their own schools, and yet pay taxes to support the Government's 
 schools. From certain State schools, such as manual training, the Jewish 
 children are excluded altogether. 
 
 " The law prohibits any factory, even if it be owned by a Jew, to have in its 
 employ more than one-third Jews of the entire personnel. Jews may not be 
 lawyers, not even clerks to lawyers; they may not own pharmacies; they may 
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 not engage in the sale of tobacco or matches government monopoly; Jews 
 must serve in the army, but may hold no rank higher than private; they ;ire 
 subject to expulsion within VI or l!4 hours for anything said or written politi- 
 cally displeasing to the (government, and other restrictions, over 200 in number; 
 they must pay all taxes the same as the rest of the population who are citizens. 
 
 "Let it be understood that there are no laws in Roumania against 'Jews,' 
 but only against 'aliens.' The law reads that only Roumanians or naturalized 
 Roumanians may do this or that or the other. The Jews are considered ' aliens 
 not subject to any foreign protection.' Before the Berlin congress the ,1 
 Roumania were considered as Roumanian subjects. 
 
 ' The condition of the Jews in Roumania is worse to-day than it has been 
 previous to the Berlin congress. 
 
 " The position of the Jews in Roumania is worse than that of the Jews in 
 Russia. The latter enjoy in Russia many rights which are denied to the Ji i ws 
 in Roumania. The Russian Jews, are Russian citizens, with the right to vote 
 and be represented in the Duma ; in fact, Jews have served as deputies in 
 the Duma of Russia. 
 
 " The Jews have lived in Roumania for centuries their history there dates 
 back to the eighth century. 
 
 "The Jews have helped develop the country. To them alone belongs the 
 credit of Roumania's present commercial and industrial life. They have given 
 her the best in its literature and drama. 
 
 " Strange as it may seem, the statesmen who oppose the enfranchisement 
 of Jews are not themselves of pure Roumanian blood. Most of them are the 
 descendants of the Greek, Russian, Bulgarian, and Armenian invaders of old 
 who exploited the poor Roumanian peasants to the last drop of their blood. 
 The King of Roumania is himself a foreigner Charles, a prince of the German 
 house of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, imported to Roumania in lsr>(>. 
 
 " Roumania has a population of 7,000,000, of which 250,000 are Jews. About 
 70 per cent of the population is engaged in agriculture, except the Jews. It is 
 a constitutional monarchy; has a Parliament with two branches, a chamber of 
 deputies and a senate. The cabinet is responsible to Parliament. There is 
 free speech and free press. The Jews are prohibited these privileges; that is, 
 they may make speeches and publish newspapers, but may not say anything 
 displeasing to the Government on penalty of expulsion. 
 
 "The Government fosters and encourages anti-Semitic agitations. The Jew 
 can not lay much claim to protection from the mob at the hands of the Gov- 
 ernment Anyone may abuse a Jew. Some time ago a colonel in the Rou- 
 manian Army slapped a civilian four times across the face in a street car and 
 then offered the apology, ' I thought you were a Jew,' after he discover/', 
 his victim happened to be a gentile. 
 
 "A highwayman was recently tried at Botoshany, Roumania. and his defense 
 was that he only robbed Jews. The public prosecutor in vai .^1 to 
 
 prove that his victims were also gentiles, for the court acquitted him." 
 
 THE RESOLUTION. 
 
 To this statement I append a copy of the resolution drawing the attention of 
 the State Department to this problem and asking for information. 
 [House resolution 183, Sixty-third Congress, first session.] 
 
 I.\ THE HOUSE OF REriiESEVTATIVns. 
 
 1913. 
 
 Mr. MOORE submitted the following resolution, which was referred to the Co-iunit'-e 
 on Foreign Affairs and ordered to be printed : 
 
 Resolution requesting the Secretary of State to inform the House as to the Berlin treaty 
 of 1878 with respect to Jews in Roumania. 
 
 TVhereas it is reported that the Roumanian Government has failed to observe that article 
 of the treaty of Berlin (1878) which provides lhat religion shall be no bar to the 
 rights and privileges of citizenship in Roumania : and 
 
 Whereas the failure of i\\s Roumanian Government to observe the provisions of the 
 Berlin treaty would be discriminatory aw against the native .lews of Koumania aff 
 them prejudicially in matters of employment and preferment: Tli<-r 
 
 Resolved, That the Secretary of State he requested to inform the l!ou-r whether anv 
 communication has been had with the Roumanian Government or tin nator'v 
 
 to the treaty of Berlin in relation to the observance of said treat v. or with respert to a 
 naturalization convention between the United States and the Roumanian 
 and if so, and no conclusions have been reached thereon, whether the i 
 such interests with respect to said treaty and the operation thereof as to make further 
 diplomatic negotiations desirable. 
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