rpr-J^^' 
 
 THE 
 
 BIMETALLIC CONTROVERSY. 
 
 A COLLECTION OF 
 PAMPHLETS, PAPERS, SPEECHES AND LETTERS, 
 
 BY 
 
 HENRY H. GIBBS k HENEY R. GRENFELL, 
 
 FORMEULY GOVERNORS OP THE BANK OP ENGL.VJ^D ; 
 
 Together with Contributions from 
 
 Eael Geey 
 Lord Sherbeooke 
 Lord Beamwell 
 Peofessoe Bonamy Peice 
 Peofessob Jevons 
 
 Sib T. H. Faeeer 
 Me. R. Giffen 
 Me. C. Daniell 
 Me. H. D. MACLEOD 
 M. Henei Ceenuschi 
 
 Reprinted from tfie Originals. 
 
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 *WI7EIISIT7] 
 
 LONDON: 
 EFFINGHAM WILSON, ROYAL EXCHANGE. 
 
 1886. 
 
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TABLE OF CONTENTS. 
 
 (^A detailed Index will he found at the end of the volume.') 
 
 Preface. page 
 
 The Double Standard. (Gibbs.) 1881. i 
 
 Letter on Mr. DanieirsPampMet" Gold ) ,j.^ ^,^^., a„^„^4- o iq7o /:- 
 
 in the East," by Mr. GrenfeU. } ^'<»^^^'^^ ^^^^^t 2, 1879. 65 
 
 Reply by Mr. Daniell „ „ 9, „ 68 
 
 „ IMr. GrenfeU „ „ 23, „ 70 
 
 „ Mr. Daniell „ „ 30, „ 72 
 
 The case against Bimetallism. (Giffen.) Fortnightly I 
 
 Rev WW, J " » "5 
 
 Bimetallism. (Jevons.) Contem^wranj JR£view,Ma.j,l8Sl. 99 
 
 What is a Pound ? (GrenfeU.) Nineteenth Century, June, 1881. 11 1 
 
 IstheValueofGold&Silver Money Artificial? ) ^, „,. ^ „ j^^, 
 
 " B." (Lord BramweU.) ] -^'^^ ^ ^^^^^' ^"^^^ ^ ^»«^- ^ 3^ 
 
 "F." (FaiTcr.) „ „ 21, „ 138 
 
 „ Henri Cemuschi. „ „ 26, „ 142 
 
 „ " Chrysargyros." (Gibbs.) „ „ 26, „ 143 
 
 "F." (Farrer.) „ „ 27, „ 147 
 
 „ H. D. Macleod. „ „ 28, „ 148 
 
 „ Henri Cemuschi. „ June 1, „ 149 
 
 -F." (Farrer.) „ „ 2, „ 150 
 The Double Standard. Correspondence between ) -iir t 
 
 Earl Grey & Mr.-Grenfell. } ^^y-June, „ 153 
 
 What is Money ? (Lord Sherbrooke.) Nineteenth Century jA.i^xi\,\882. 183 
 
 What is a Standard ? (GrenfeU.) „ „ May, „ 197 
 
 Speech by Mr. GrenfeU at a Meeting of the Association. . .March 8, „ 219 
 
 „ Mr. Gibbs „ „ 8, ,, 225 
 
 The Scramble for Gold. (Gibbs.) Bullioni^t. „ 18, „ 231 
 
 Concerning Faith in Treaties. (Gibbs.)... „ April 15, „ 237 
 
 The Value of Money. (Gibbs.) „ May 20, „ 245 
 
 The Ratio of Value, &c. (Daniell.) „ „ 20, „ 251 
 
 Whither would the Dearer Metal go? (GrenfeU.) „ June 24, „ 259 
 
 BimetaUic England. (Gibbs.) „ „ 24, „ 267 
 
 Paper or Metallic Inflation. (GrenfeU.)... „ „ 24, „ 275 
 
 The Ratio between Gold & Silver. Two ) t^t „ ^ .„^ n^^^-Uo,. ,a. 
 
 Letters by Mr. Gibbs. } ^^^^^^""^^'^^*^^^^' " ^^' 
 BimetaUism Again. Correspondence between Mr. GrenfeU ) « , 
 
 & Professor Bonamy Price. ( ^^P^" " ^^3 
 
 Correspondence: Sir T.H. Farrer, Mr. Gibbs & Lord BramweU, Mar. 1883. 335 
 
 The Gold Question & the FaU of Prices. (Gibbs.) ) -r,,, , . ^ 
 
 National Review, j '^^^^ " 345 
 
 The Price of Silver. (Gibbs.) Letter to the Economist, Sept. 19, 1885. 375 
 
 Concluding passages of Speech at Manchester. (GrenfeU.) Feb. 6, 1886. 381 
 
London, 
 
 September, 1886. 
 
 We have been induced to make a collection of 
 our writings and those of the most distinguished 
 among our opponents on the subject of Bimetallism 
 by the fact that so keen an interest in the question 
 has been of late awakened in the public mind. 
 The result of this has been that the Government have 
 determined to act on the recommendation of the 
 Royal Commission appointed to consider the causes 
 of the Depression of Trade, and appoint a Special 
 Commission to examine this and kindred questions. 
 
 This being so, it may be useful to recur to the 
 arguments of two of the guardians of English 
 currency who have given some time and labour to 
 
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 them, and who see no reason to doubt the accuracy 
 of then- information and the soundness of their 
 conclusions in favour of the new doctrine. 
 
 Among the early contributions to the Bimetallic 
 literature there were two, either of which would 
 have served as an introduction to this collection, 
 — namely, Mr. E. Gladstone's Catechism and 
 Mr. Chapman's Memorandum, — but, in order to 
 avoid all unnecessary repetition, we have pre- 
 ferred confining ourselves to the preliminary 
 statement of the question in Mr. Gibbs' pamphlet, 
 which is placed at the commencement of this 
 collection. We have abstained, therefore, from 
 asking permission to reprint these short and pithy 
 papers. 
 
 The writers whose contributions have, with 
 their permission, been inserted in this volume^ are 
 chiefly those with whom it is a subject of just 
 pride to us that we have been privileged to contend. 
 They are all celebrated for their powers of mind 
 
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 and for the part they have played in the practical 
 solution of many difficult investigations. Many of 
 these contributions are models of fair and serious 
 treatment, affording a marked contrast to certain 
 specious but hasty criticisms which have been 
 published. There is only one omission which we 
 regret, namely, that of the papers of the late 
 Mr. Bagehot reprinted from the Economist and 
 published after his death. Some of these we 
 might, perhaps, have been permitted to include, 
 but we found it impossible to do so, because we 
 are not conscious of having made them specially 
 the subject of our own replies : the fact being that 
 when we took up the controversy the conditions 
 of the question had somewhat altered since those 
 papers were written. 
 
 H. H. G. 
 H. R. G. 
 
^'^ OP TOB^^ 
 
 'UNIVBRSIT?: 
 
 THE DOUBLE STANDARD. 
 
 Gold alone is the Standard Money of Great Britain. 
 That is to say, the value of all commodities is measured by 
 and expressed in the Pound sterling, consisting of 113'0016 
 grains of pure Gold, or 123*27447 grains of Standard 
 Gold. 
 
 Silver coins are in this country merely tokens, — 
 metallic notes representing portions of the Gold pound ; 
 thus, a crown is payable by law as the fourth of a Gokl 
 pound,* although the intrinsic or metallic vahie of the 
 coin is much less. 
 
 In Germany, until the year 1872, Silver was the only 
 Standard Money, and all commodities were in that country 
 measured in Silver just as in this they are measured in 
 Gold. 
 
 In France, as in the other countries belonging to the 
 " Latin Union," Gold and Silver alike are the measure of 
 value of all other commodities ; 15 J ounces of pure Silver 
 or one ounce of pure Gold being equally a discharge for a 
 debt of 107-1342 francs, the Gold piece of 20 francs 
 bearing that proportion to the Silver piece of 5 francs, and 
 the debtor having in all cases by law the option of paying 
 his debt in either metal. 
 
 I take, arbitrarily, these three countries. Great Britain, 
 Germany (before 1872), and France, as representatives of 
 their several systems ; the last as an example (until 1874, 
 Avhen she suspended free mintage of standard Silver money) 
 of the full use of the Double Standard, or what is now 
 
 * Subject to tlie iOs. limit. 
 
called by the name of BimctalllsTn, and the two first as 
 examples, severally, of the two varieties of a Single or 
 Monometallic Standard. 
 
 It may be useful to give here a sketch of the position 
 and progress of the Silver question since I first took it up 
 in 1879. 
 
 The price of Silver towards the end of 1879 was higher 
 than at present. Having been 60d. per ounce in 1872, it 
 fell as low as 46|^. in 1876, from which it rose by various 
 fluctuations to 53^d. in November, 1879. It stood at the 
 close of 1880 at about 51|c?. 
 
 The chief causes of the depreciation of Silver may be 
 stated as follows : — 
 
 1. Increase of production, of Silver, from 8 J millions in 
 
 1861 to about 16 millions in 1879. 
 
 2. Decrease in demand of Silver, owing to — 
 
 («) Demonetization of Silver in Germany, the 
 Scandinavian States and Holland ; and limi- 
 tation of Silver coinage by the Latin Union. 
 
 (b) Increase in amount of India Council Bills, 
 coupled with less demand in India for coin, 
 owing to bad harvests, &c. 
 
 3. Enhancement in the value of Gold, owing to — 
 
 (a) Diminution in its supply, which fell from 
 an estimated average annual production in 
 1852/6 of nearly 30 millions, to about 21 
 millions at present. 
 
 [b) Increased demand for Gold — Germany and 
 minor States absorbing about 86 millions, 
 .and the United States (since 1872) more 
 than 40 millions, together about one-fifth of 
 the total computed quantity in existence. 
 
 Mr, II. II. Gibbs. 
 
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 Since 1878/9 tlic (Usturbiiio- elements in Em'ope and 
 India may be regarded as having ceased to be active. In 
 general terms it may be said that the operations in 
 Germany have not been extended ; that the amount of 
 India Council Bills has not increased ; and that the im- 
 proved condition of India and the East has maintained a 
 due absorption of Silver. 
 
 Setting aside, therefore, for the moment, any further 
 enquiry into these points, the subjects which appear to 
 require examination, as having made some progress in the 
 last two years, or as likely to hold a prominent place in 
 influencing the immediate future, are — 
 
 1. The production of Silver and Gold, especially in 
 
 America, as compared with previous years. 
 
 2. The operation of the American Silver coinage law, 
 
 and the condition of things brought about under it. 
 
 3. The proposed arrangements in Italy for a new Gold 
 
 Standard coinage. 
 
 Production of Silver and Gold. 
 
 During the past three years it would appear that so 
 far as the United States is concerned, the production of 
 Silver has remained nearly stationary. 
 
 Estimates, which are generally accepted, show that the 
 production in 1879 amounted to £7,406,000 against 
 £7,449,000 in 1878, and that last year (1880) it was about 
 £7,500,000. 
 
 The following are the estimates of production in the 
 United States for the last seven years : — 
 
 1874 3,464,000 
 
 1875 6,521,000 
 
 1876 7,858,000 
 
 1877 9,169,000 
 
 1878 7,449,000 
 
 1879 7,406,000 
 
 1880 7,500,000 
 
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The production in other countries does not appear to 
 have sliown any considerable variation ; and as the esti- 
 mates of supply in the year just ended are not in excess of 
 the year 1879, it may be broadly stated that the greatly 
 increased production prior to 1878 has, as was anticipated, 
 not been maintained. 
 
 The production of Gold during the last three years 
 appears to have diminished considerably. 
 
 In the United States, the production for the last four 
 years, ending 30th June, is estimated by the mint authorities 
 as follows : — 
 
 in 1877 
 
 9,380,000 
 
 1878 
 
 10,240,000 
 
 1879 
 
 7,780,000 
 
 1880 
 
 7,200,000 
 
 The production in Australia is stated also to have 
 decreased though not so sensibly, while the prospect of 
 any large supply of Gold from India is still uncertain. 
 
 The United States Coinage Law and its 
 Results. 
 
 This law was passed in 1878. Its chief provisions 
 
 are — 
 
 1. That the United States Treasury shall coin Silver 
 
 monthly (whether it is required for trade or not) 
 to an amount of not less than £400,000, or more 
 than £800,000, — the neccssai-y amount of Silver for 
 this purpose being purchased by the Government 
 at the market price. 
 
 2. Dollars so coined are to be of the Aveight of 4 12 J 
 
 grains of standard Silver *' as provided by the Act 
 Mr. II. II. Gihhs. 
 
'' of January, 1837," and are to be a legal tender, 
 at their nominal value, for all debts and dues, public 
 and private, *^ except where otherwise expressly 
 " stipulated in the contract." 
 
 3. That any holder of this coin, in sums of not less than 
 10 dollars, may deposit it and obtain a certificate 
 for it. These certificates are receivable for 
 Customs, taxes, and all public dues, and may be 
 re-issued. 
 
 It is of course difficult to ascertain with precision the 
 working of a foreign law in a foreign country, but from 
 the results it would appear, and, indeed, it seems to be 
 admitted, that this Act has failed to fulfil the objects it 
 aimed at. 
 
 It is stated that under the law about 80 millions of 
 dollars (£16,000,000) had been coined before the close of 
 last year, and that before the close of the present year the 
 amount will, if the coinage continues, exceed 100 millions 
 (£20,000,000). That, of the sum already coined, about 
 three-fourths, say ;$' 60,000,000 (£12,000,000) remained in 
 the Treasury vaults, belonging to the Treasury, or to 
 Banks and others to whom the Treasury has issued 
 certificates for them. That only about 20 million dollars 
 (£4,000,000) remained out of the Treasury vaults, including 
 all those actually held by the Banks ; and that probably 
 not more than 10 millions (£2,000,000) had gone into 
 active circulation. 
 
 These dollars outside the limits of the United States are 
 scarcely worth nine-tenths of a Gold dollar, though 
 practically to a resident American they are equivalent to 
 Gold. That they are, however, unacceptable is evident, 
 and the question is exciting great attention. Prominent 
 amongst the remedial measures has been the proposal to 
 increase the weight of the dollar — but to make it equal to 
 
Gold it must be raised from 4 12 J grains to 455. At tlie 
 late annual convention of bankers at Saratoga it was re- 
 solved to recommend that these dollars be melted back into 
 bullion, a subsidiary coinage being issued only as required; 
 and that certificates be issued for deposits of Silver bullion 
 as nearly as possible at the market price. There is clearly 
 a growing desire in some quarters to get rid of the Act 
 altogetlier. 
 
 Whilst the Silver coined under this Act cannot be got 
 into circulation, the absorption of the Gold coinage, 
 especially in the West, is represented as being very great. 
 According to an estimate by the United States Mint 
 authorities, the Gold coinage circulation of the country 
 was increased, by coinage and imports of coin, more than 
 £20,000,000 between the 1st January, 1879, the date fixed 
 for resumption, and the 1st November, 1880. 
 
 The Proposed Redemption of Forced 
 Currency in Italy. 
 
 The Italian Government propose within the next two 
 years to redeem so much of their paper circulation as will 
 place the remainder in a satisfactory condition ; and to this 
 end, they purpose raising a loan of £25,760,000, of which 
 £16,000,000 is to be in Gold. It would appear that the 
 Government, so far as their views have been made known, 
 entirely put aside, under present circumstances, the question 
 of a Double Standard, and take the opportunity afforded 
 })y the substitution of a metallic for a forced paper cuiTcncy 
 of introducing a Gold standard. 
 
 On a review of the general position, so far as this has 
 changed during the past eighteen months, the following 
 appear to be some of the results ; — 
 
 Mr. H. H. Gibbs. 
 
1. The divergence between the value of Silver and Gold 
 has widened. 
 
 That this is the case would appear from the 
 following considerations : — 
 
 As regards Silver, the demand has not largely- 
 increased, if at all, whilst the production has re- 
 mained nearly stationary. In the United States 
 the coinage under the law of 1878 has been 
 continued, but the country has not absorbed it. The 
 coins lie idle, and do not even need the usual 
 supply of Silver to maintain them in good con- 
 dition. In Europe the limitation of Silver coinage 
 by the Latin Union is still in force, and the former 
 large Silver coinage of Germany and the Northern 
 States needs no longer the supply formerly required 
 to sustain it. Against this, however, must be 
 placed an increased importation into India of more 
 than four millions sterling last year over the pre- 
 vious year. 
 
 On the other hand the supply of Gold is not 
 only less, but the demand for it has increased in 
 every direction. Assuming the Australian yield to 
 have been maintained at the diminished supply of 
 the last few years, that of America is confessedly 
 less. But as regards demand; — in the United 
 States the absorption has been continuous. In 
 Europe the increased amount of Gold coinage 
 superseding Silver, and the extended area over 
 wdiich it prevails, needs for its maintenance a 
 larger supply than formerly ; whilst even India — 
 probably owing to greater prosperity — has imported 
 pearly £600,000 this year in excess of last. The 
 diminution in the price of Silver from about 53^^. 
 in November, 1879, to 5l|^/. in December, 1880, 
 
probably represents the result of the operation of 
 these causes. 
 
 2. Under the influence of circumstances within view, 
 the probability is that the divergence of price will 
 be greater rather than less. 
 
 The power of India and the East to absorb Silver 
 is an unknown element. Although Avith prosperity 
 it would increase, yet in such periods the importa- 
 tion of Gold (possibly for manufacturing purposes) 
 increases also. But there does not appear to be 
 any visible demand for Silver elsewhere; whilst 
 any change in the present law of the United States, 
 which is fast becoming intolerable, would lessen 
 the demand there, and possibly release the accumu- 
 lated useless stock. 
 
 Any action of the Italian Government, in the 
 direction of introducing a Gold standard, would of 
 course still further complicate the position ; and 
 any general revival of trade would stimulate all 
 the causes now at work for a larger need of Gold 
 in face of a diminishing supply. 
 
 Looking at the matter from the point of view of the 
 advocates of a Double Standard, it would appear, that 
 apart from all local considerations, and assuming no great 
 Gold discoveries should alter the conditions, the natural 
 causes which have been at work have been in the direction 
 of strengthening the views of those who lean to that solu- 
 tion of the question; a view which of necessity is held most 
 strongly by the United States as the chief Silver-producing 
 country. The question may be asked whether any advance, 
 and if so, to what extent, has been made in enabling them 
 to enforce their will on Europe. 
 
 The working of tlie United States law of 1878 shows, 
 if such a lesson were neqded, the futility of a partial 
 
y 
 
 bimetallism. Had there been bimetallism, pure and simple, 
 Avitli free coinage of either metal to every one, America, 
 as France in past time, would have brought up the value of 
 Silver to its old point ; though some have urged that she 
 could not long maintain this service, unless a change arose 
 in the relative value of the two metals, in the direction of 
 making the less valuable the more valuable, — a view which 
 I will discuss later on. But the United States did not 
 establish bimetallism, and the question seems to be now 
 before them, whether they shall establish it, or whether 
 they will throw aside even the present semblance 
 of a Silver legal tender, and revert to a single Gold 
 standard, trusting that the constant absorption to meet the 
 needs of an ever-extending area of population will tend to 
 a settlement of the question in the direction they desire, 
 and conscious of the power they possess as the great food- 
 suppliers of the world. 
 
 The conditions would of course be modified by new 
 discoveries of Gold ; but, as it stands, it would appear that 
 the question is being gradually narrowed to a monetary 
 struggle between America and Europe. America is not 
 likely by herself to introduce a Double Standard, as to do 
 so would be to part with her present stock of Gold, and 
 permit Europe to retain its single Gold standard; but she 
 can follow, if Europe leads the way, and reap the benefits 
 which would accrue from its establishment. 
 
 Before entering into the question whether the adoption 
 by this country of the Double Standard would be, under 
 any circumstances and in any degree, a remedy for the 
 evils to which I have adverted in the Preface, I will set 
 down what are supposed to be the comparative advantages 
 of the two systems. 
 
 Shortly stated, the advantage of a single metallic 
 standard is, that assuming the coins to be kept at their 
 due weight and fineness, evevj one who buys, and every 
 
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 one who sells, knows precisely what it is that he gives and 
 what it is that he receives for the commodity with which 
 he is dealing, and that the calculations of commerce are 
 more simple, for those who are engaged in it, whether they 
 live in the same village or at opposite ends of the world, if 
 they have but one medium for the exchange of their 
 commodities. 
 
 The disadvantages which a Double Standard in one 
 single country brings to that country itself are so notorious, 
 and have been so constantly exposed in every treatise on 
 the subject, from Locke to John Stuart Mill, that I need 
 not enlarge on them. 
 
 The advantages which a Double Standard in one single 
 country brings to other surrounding countries are obvious. 
 
 But the advantages which a Double Standard would 
 bring to all countries simultaneously agreeing in adopting 
 it is the point now under discussion ; and it is that agree- 
 ment, and the causes which seem to make it necessary, 
 which alone present new features for our consideration. 
 
 These advantages are : 
 
 1. Uniformity, and therefore the removal of those 
 
 variables which must be an encumbrance to com- 
 merce. 
 
 2. Increased steadiness of prices of commodities so far 
 
 as they are aifected by the quantity of the measure 
 of value. 
 
 3. The providing a remedy, if not the only possible 
 
 remedy, for the new state of things in Germany, 
 Italy, and America, wherein these wealthy nations 
 arc entering into competition for the limited stock 
 of Gold existing in the world. 
 
 1. — It is unnecessary to say more here on the obvious 
 advantage to commerce of a uniform monetary system 
 Afr. If. //. Gihhs. 
 
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 between nations. I will refer to it again when I speak of 
 Lord Liverpool's Treatise. 
 
 2. — It is clear that tlie fluctuations of price under a 
 Double Standard, though probably more frequent, are cer- 
 tainly less violent. The conclusion to which the Commis- 
 sion of 1868 unanimously came was confined to the assertion 
 of greater frequency; and I cannot better illustrate my 
 position than by referring to the work of Mr. Stanley 
 Jevons — no parti zan of the Double Standard — on Money 
 and the MeclLanism of Exchange^ and particularly to 
 pages 137-40, edition 1878, in which he discusses this point, 
 and insists on what he calls the compensatory or equilibra- 
 tory action of the Double Standard. 
 
 3. — I will now address myself to the question whether 
 it is the only remedy, or whether a choice lies between a 
 single standard of one metal only, and a compound standard 
 of two metals, for adoption by the chief commercial nations. 
 
 I have no doubt myself that, as a matter of theory, a 
 single standard would be the best for the whole w^orld of 
 commerce, and that Gold would be the most proper metal 
 to serve as that standard. That is to say, that if we could 
 suppose men to have set themselves at some time delibe- 
 rately to choose a medium of exchange and measure of 
 value, and Gold to have been ready to their hands in 
 quantity sufficient for the convenience of commerce, nothing 
 could have been more perfect than the selection of Gold for 
 the purpose. 
 
 But this is, of course, mere imagination ; for no nation 
 or people ever did deliberately invent and choose a standard 
 of value, and even had it been possible for them to do so, 
 the same causes, or some of them, which led some to choose 
 Gold, would have led others to choose Silver, brass, or iron, 
 sheep and oxen, even salt, dried fish, shells^ or other sub- 
 stances, as media of exchange, 
 
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 No such deliberate choice could have taken place. 
 The precious metals, I suppose, grew into being money by 
 common consent and law united, and so grew because they 
 were exceptionally suited to serve as money. They were 
 imperishable, divisible, portable, beautiful, and rare, and 
 thus possessed intrinsic metallic value. 
 
 I approach here an incidental portion of the argmnent 
 in my former pamphlet, which drew down upon me the 
 censure of almost all my critics. It was no important part 
 of the argument, and might be conceded to the objectors 
 without affecting in the least degree the correctness of my 
 conclusions. It was only by way of illustration that I used 
 the somewhat hyperbolical expression — " Gold and Silver 
 " are a forced currency." The force I spoke of was consent, 
 and no other; and it was no confutation of my statement 
 to reply that nations would ?iot consent to the use of a 
 valueless cun-ency. I nowhere said, or implied, that they 
 would. My statement was but a truism, viz. : No com- 
 modity, however valuable, could become money without 
 consent or tacit concurrence of those whose money it was 
 to be. Even to a really forced currency im^iosed on a 
 nation by the will of the Prince, consent, however unwilling, 
 is a necessity. 
 
 I said, and I repeat, that it is from consent, and law 
 which presupposes consent, that Gold and Silver derive 
 their power as money. Their power as exchangeable com- 
 modities they derive, as wool and iron do, from their 
 intrinsic worth and usefulness. To this phrase of mine 
 o])jection was made, that I attiibuted their value to consent, 
 meaning that consent and law could make that valuable 
 which was not so without them, and that intrinsic worth 
 was of no consequence. But I said nothing of the sort, but 
 only that they derived their powers as money — their being 
 money at all — from law and consent. 
 
 For if not, and if intrinsic worth alone suffice to cause 
 a commodity to be money in proportion to its possession of 
 
 Mr, JI, JI. Gibbs, 
 
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 it, then tin and ])latinnni sliould also ha money, 'svliich tliey 
 are not; Gold sliould be money everywhere, which it is not ; 
 Silver should be money here, which it is not. 
 
 Ap^ain, in my former pamphlet, I said "the metal of 
 " which the money is composed is indeed a commodity ; 
 " but when made into money it ceases to bear that character. 
 '' Money is not a commodity, hut a meamre of commodities,^'' 
 thus not undeservedly bringing upon myself a flood of 
 criticism by using the term " commodity " in an ambiguous 
 sense. I used the word as Locke used it. for "a thing that 
 "can be valued in money"; and money, whether Gold or 
 Silver, or both, cannot be valued in money. Money cannot 
 buy money. Money considered as a measure of value, is 
 not, in respect that it is money, a commodity as other 
 commodities are. The substance of Avhich it is made 
 must be and must of course remain always a commodity, 
 and no one I suppose thought that I so far believed in 
 the transmutation of metals as to think otherwise. The 
 sovereign Avliich I hold in my hand is obviously as much a 
 commodity as the purse in which I place it, and stamped 
 or not it would be an exchangeable commodity like any 
 other ; but as money it has another function superadded, 
 it is the medium of exchange between commodities, and so 
 far differs from them all. 
 
 I have assumed that though Gold as a single metallic 
 standard for all the w orld is theoretically the best, there is 
 no practical possibility of its adoption. 
 
 In practice, the difficulties and even dangers of estab- 
 lishing it would be enormous. It would indeed be a 
 mistake to allege as one of these difficulties that the stock 
 of Gold would certainly be insufficient for the wants of 
 commerce, for when once the adoption of a universal Gold 
 Standard had been accomplished and the Gold distributed 
 abroad, prices which would have been disturbed would 
 after a time and by degrees adjust themselves, and fall into 
 a normal condition. Besides which, the use by other 
 
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 civilised nations of the banking expedients employed by 
 ourselves — of a system of convertible paper money (to 
 speak only of sound expedients) — of checiues and clearings 
 such as ^ye have in England, would so economise the use 
 of the metal, that there Avould, I imagine, be more than 
 enough. 
 
 But setting aside the extreme improbability of such a 
 change in the habits of other nations, the real danger in 
 establishing a single Standard of Gold (or of Silver 
 either) for all countries having commercial relations with 
 each other would be the disturbance of prices to which I 
 have referred above, by the contraction of the circulation, 
 which would take place while the operation was proceeding, 
 in every country of the world. Work is now done by both 
 Gold and Silver, by Gold in some and by Silver in others, 
 and the same work would then have to be done by one 
 metal only. The adjustment of prices would then take a 
 long time to perfect, and meanwhile the violent and con- 
 tinuous fall of prices would bring disaster, panic, and ruin 
 in its train. Money would be harder to come by, and the 
 debtor who owed and had to pay £100, Avould find that in 
 order to raise it he must part with more commodities than 
 could be bought with the money when he incurred the 
 debt. 
 
 But though a single metal as money is only theoreti- 
 cally the best under present conditions, yet it is much more 
 than mere theory which claims a single metal as absolutely 
 the best money for any particidar nation in its internal 
 commerce ; and it does not seem certain that the very 
 arguments which prove this do not hold good for a uniform 
 system of money for that greater nation which counts 
 amongst its citizens the inhabitants of the whole com- 
 mercial world. Every argiunent Avhich Lord Liverpool 
 uses for this country applies equally well to the whole 
 family of nations ; but he was not concerned for other 
 states, he was not desirous of preaching a Gold standard, 
 
 Mr, If. //. Gibhs. 
 
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 or even a uniform standard to other nations, and if he 
 had desired to do so, it Avould have been at that time 
 made all the more difficult by their several predilections 
 either for Silver as a single standard, or for a double 
 coinage of Gold and Silver ; and also by the want of those 
 facilities of communication which we now enjoy, and by the 
 impossibility which then, at least, did exist of bringing 
 about " international concert." But with respect to this 
 country, for which alone Lord Liverpool intended his argu- 
 ment, it was capable of and received practical application, 
 so that Gold became the single standard of these realms ; 
 of which result I will say that if nothing else had to be 
 taken into consideration, and if we had dealings with no 
 other country but the British Islands, our system would 
 be perfect. 
 
 I will add that till of late years the inconveniences 
 which have resulted have not made themselves manifest, 
 and my only desire in writing these pages is to arouse the 
 minds of the more experienced among us to the necessity 
 of a careful examination of those inconveniences with a 
 view to discover how far they are really dangerous to 
 commerce, and to the well-being of England's dependencies, 
 and how far they may overbalance the obvious benefits of 
 a single Gold standard ; and if it be found that thev are of 
 such a nature as to require a remedy, then to approach the 
 question what that remedy shall be with an unprejudiced 
 mind. 
 
 One of the remedies that has been suggested is the adop- 
 tion of the second system of currency, spoken of in my 
 first page ; that is to say, of the Double Standard as it 
 existed in full force in France till 1874. 
 
 Now, just as we shall find that many economists will 
 declare that there are no inconveniences at all in the 
 single Gold standard, or, if there are any, that they are 
 not worth serious notice, so we shall find that there are 
 
16 
 
 enthusiastic defenders of the Double Standard who say 
 that not only is its admitted action not disastrous even to 
 a single country adopting it, but positively advantageous. 
 Be that as it may, it is incontestable that what is called the 
 Double Standard was, as applied at that time in France, 
 really an alternative standard, or, more strictly speaking, 
 produced an alternative currency. For some time before 
 1848, Gold, being the dearer of the two metals, had nearly 
 left the country, and little but Silver Avas to be seen. Later 
 on, when the construction of the Indian railways, and other 
 causes, had greatly augmented the demand for Silver, that 
 metal became the dearer of the two, and it became difficult 
 to get change for a Gold napoleon. 
 
 Yet France was in neither case a monometallic country 
 as has been sometimes assumed; for the bimetallic law was 
 still in force, every one was at liberty to pay his debt in 
 whichever metal he chose, and every one was entitled to 
 receive 1000 pieces of 5 francs for 723*391 ounces of pure 
 Silver, or 1000 pieces of 20 francs for 186*681 ounces of 
 pure Gold, delivered at the mint. 
 
 But the dearer metal had in either case for the most 
 part disappeared from common use, and France was so far 
 left with the depreciated coinage only, of Gold or Silver as 
 the case might be ; a condition, according to some French 
 economists, demanding congratulation as having brought 
 gain to the country, but, according to most English econo- 
 mists, deserving commiseration as having brought loss, some 
 going so far as to speak of "the misery endured by the 
 " people of France under their changing system." 
 
 Mr. Cernuschi's contention is that if France has lost her 
 Gold — to take that instance — it has not been taken from 
 her against her will. She has freely offered it. If she has 
 paid her debts to England in Gold, then for every 2()-franc 
 piece sent away she has had goods worth 20 Gold francs in 
 exchange, or else she has received Silver for her Gold, and, 
 by the hypothesis, more Silver than is contained in four 
 
 Mr. H, H. Gibhs. 
 
n 
 
 5-fVanc pieces, for silver was cheaper tlian Gold in this 
 market. So France, lie thinks, as a nation, has gained all 
 round. 
 
 Without either accepting the conclusion at which he 
 arrives, or denying that there may be considerable in- 
 convenience and disadvantage in a frequent shifting of 
 currencies imder a bimetallic law prevailing in a single 
 nation, from which disadvantage a monometallic nation 
 must be free, one may well doubt whether the prejudice is 
 so great to the single bimetallic country as is commonly 
 supposed. 
 
 That which seems to me to be urgently needed is a 
 careful enquiry both into the reality of the alleged losses 
 and inconveniences, and into the truth of the contention 
 that they would be dhninished under the operation of a 
 bimetallic compact between all the principal nations of the 
 earth. 
 
 I have seen no reason to alter the opinion expressed in 
 my former pam2)lilet, that the alleged evils could not exist 
 under the circumstances of such a compact, and that if 
 England, the Latin Union, Germany and the United 
 States were agreed, all other nations would find it to their 
 advantage to follow their example ; and that while the use 
 of Silver as a medium of exchange would be legally 
 extended over all the nations so agreeing, it would 
 practically make very little or no difference in the metallic 
 currency used by any particular nation in its internal com- 
 merce, inasmuch as all would still use that for which they 
 have severally a preference. It may be, indeed, that the use 
 of Gold of late years by the United States, and the present 
 disinclination of the public in that country to use Silver, 
 may add them to the list of the nations having a preference 
 for Gold ; but the effect of the prevalence of a bimetallic 
 compact would be, in my opinion, that further change of 
 habits in this respect would be not promoted but arrested. 
 
 Whether or not my belief is well founded that the dis- 
 
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18 
 
 advantages of the Doul)le Standard as existing in any- 
 single country would be cured by a common accord 
 amongst nations, the present question is whether the evils, 
 whatever they may be, which now exist and are likely to 
 increase, are such as to need a remedy which would, in 
 anticipation at least, be so distasteful and so contrary to 
 the traditions, and, which is of more importance, to the 
 prejudices of a majority of Englishmen ; and I propose to 
 state the reasons which I will not say make such a change 
 necessary, but which make a patient and thoughtful 
 enquiry into the subject very desirable. 
 
 The question is a serious and important one, and 
 scarcely deserves to be treated with the indifference and 
 contempt with which some Political Economists are willing 
 to treat it ; for though the evils which now in my belief do 
 result from the present state of things may or may not be 
 found to need so radical a remedy, the evil which may- 
 hereafter result is a much wider one. 
 
 The inevitable end, if other nations are not in time 
 awake to the danger, would seem to be that while we see 
 the production of Gold decreasing. Gold may come to be 
 adopted as a standard throughout the commercial world, 
 with the evil consequences to which I have referred above ; 
 and this alone, without taking into account the present ill 
 effects both of the fall in Silver, and of the uncertainty of 
 its position from day to day, would afford a sufficient 
 reason for grave enquiry. 
 
 It has been said that this fear of the appreciation of 
 Gold is exaggerated, that the United States, a Silver- 
 producing country, can never really desire the demone- 
 tization of Silver, and that if Italy intends to resume cash- 
 payments in Gold, yet though she may be able to obtain 
 it she will certainly not be able to keep it, and that 
 Germany is too well aware of the loss she would sustain by- 
 selling the remainder of her stock of Silver, to persevere in 
 her intention of substituting Gold for it. 
 
 Mr. II. II. Gibbs. 
 
19 
 
 As to the United States, the fact remains tliat a large 
 party loudly cry for the complete establishment of a Gold 
 Standard, some because they have a theoretical preference 
 for Gold, and some because they think that the threat of 
 demonetization will be their best weapon wherewith to 
 enforce on Europe their real desire, the adoj)tion of the 
 Double Standard. 
 
 As to Italy, if she has credit to obtain the loan which 
 she desires, and if she cancels an amount of notes equal 
 to the Gold remitted to her so that her circulation is not 
 redundant, I do not see how having once got the Gold she 
 can be with any certainty deprived of it. The only thing 
 that can withdraw specie from a country is the indebtedness 
 of that country, its imports exceeding its exports ; that is 
 to say, the state of the exchanges. The rate of interest is 
 the weapon with which the battle of bullion will be fought. 
 Some to obtain and others to retain that bullion will have 
 to raise their rates one against the other, and the rise of the 
 rate of interest implies the fall of prices. 
 
 If Italy then takes 16 millions; if the United States 
 demonetize the 33 millions of Silver existing, according to 
 computation, in the country, and supply the place of the 
 half that is in circulation other than in the Treasury with 
 Gold; if Germany absorbs an equal sum, and if France 
 and other states should think themselves compelled to 
 follow the example, the struggle for Gold Avould it seems 
 be no light one, and the consequences of it could not fail 
 to be prejudicial to England. 
 
 What is most to be dreaded in respect of Silver, and, 
 if possible, provided against, is a further depreciation in its 
 value. 
 
 I need not refer more particularly to the effect of the 
 existing depreciation of Silver on the finances of India, and 
 on all those who, whether in India or in other Silver-using 
 countries, have fixed sums to receive in Silver, and fixed 
 sums to remit in Gold. 
 
 c2 
 
20 
 
 It is the further depreciation, and, indeed, any abnormal 
 fluctuation whicli affects for evil the interests of all those 
 in Gold-usinsf countries who have commercial dealino's with 
 Silver-using nations. Such fluctuation, acting on the ex- 
 changes, imparts an additionally speculative character to 
 their business; they can make no just estimate of what 
 they have to receive for their goods ; the thing that they 
 do receive is for them a commodity, just as wool is, or bark, 
 or silk, or tea — neither more nor less. 
 
 I have been answered as to this point, that the merchant 
 does know what he has to receive; for remittances being 
 made in bills, it is all a matter of exchange, which must of 
 necessity be subject to fluctuations. 
 
 I reply that it is precisely because it is a matter of 
 exchange that my statement is correct. 
 
 What is it that regidates the rate of exchange betAveen 
 nations? Where their coins are the same in substance, and 
 are equal (or by a fixed calculation are reduced to equality 
 as the pound sterling and napoleon are) in weight or fine- 
 ness, there are only two things which regulate the exchange. 
 First, the cost of transmission of the coin ; and second, the 
 greater or less demand for bills in the market from whence 
 the remittance takes place. But in such countries the rate 
 cannot recede below the par of exchange less the cost of 
 transmission. Thus the computed par of the sovereign, 
 measured in French Gold, being frs. 25*21 J, and the cost 
 of transmission being 8 or 9 cts., a rate of frs. 2o'12^ causes 
 the English debtor to send Gold rather than send or accept 
 bills. 
 
 But if, on the other hand, the coins are not the same in 
 substance, the exchange must also vary with the difference 
 in value of the two substances each in the other market. 
 The money of the country from which i^mittance is made 
 is coined from a metal which is an article of merchandise 
 in the State to which remittance is made, and thus an 
 additional element of luicertainty comes into the calcula- 
 
 Mr. II. H. Gibbs, 
 
21 
 
 tion. It matters not whether remittance is made in Silver, 
 or tin, or bark; whether it is at so many pence per dollar, 
 or so many pence per ounce of Silver or tin, or per pound 
 of bark : it is a speculation in produce after all : and 
 accordingly, in Silver-using countries, the exchange with 
 England varies every day, not on the calculable value of a 
 metal accepted as money, but on the variable value of an 
 article of produce — on the ever-changing price of Silver 
 in this market. 
 
 But it may be said that this also is one of the ordinary 
 risks of trade, and involves merely an additional calcula- 
 tion to be made by the merchant here or by his correspon- 
 dent in the Silver-using country; and even if the variation 
 in the price of Silver occurs within the period of his 
 transaction, and from day to day, there must be some 
 means by which he can guard himself from loss. 
 
 I knoAv of none ; nor is it at all a question of having an 
 extra calculation to make. The variations of price are 
 always occurring during the period of a transaction, and 
 the following example will show the evil which ensues. 
 
 Suppose a manufacturer to send two consignments of 
 goods — one to Australia, and another to Calcutta, telling 
 his correspondents that 305. per piece is a covering price. 
 The Australian has no difficulty at all ; he knows the cost 
 of transmission, and will not buy a bill for remittance on 
 less favourable terms for the manufacturer than he could 
 get by sending specie. His only calculation is as to the 
 possible variation of the exchange between the date of his 
 sale and the date of his recovering and remitting the 
 proceeds ; and a knowledge of the exports and imports w411 
 give him a reasonable clue to the probabilities of rise or 
 fall in the exchange. 
 
 The Calcutta merchant can also estimate this ; but there 
 is another element on which he cannot calculate in the least 
 when he makes his sale. What will be the price of Silver 
 in England when he comes to buy his bill ? Silver is to 
 
his English friend a mere commodity, and his remittance to 
 him is in its essence a shii:)ment of that commodity, and on 
 the fluctuations of its price he cannot calculate at all. 
 " But what then?" it may be answered ; " These are only 
 " the natural risks of Trade. Is our currency to be 
 " revolutionised because a manufacturer has made a loss ? " 
 I answer that this is an extra risk which should and could 
 be avoided; but the particular loss to the shipper is not the 
 measure of the evil ; for the risk forces him to suspend or 
 curtail his shipments to the country, whereby both he and 
 his correspondent in Calcutta suffer ; he curtails his manu- 
 facture accordingly, whereby large classes in England suffer, 
 and trade is injured all round. 
 
 As Gold is the only money current and recognised in 
 this country, and as Silver is the only money recognised 
 by certain other nations as current in their countries, and 
 as therefore in these last Gold is but merchandise, just as 
 in our country Silver is but merchandise, it must follow 
 that the exchange of cotton goods — one kind of merchandise 
 — for Silver — another kind of merchandise — is but a kind 
 of barter. The exchange of English goods for so many 
 ton weight of copper is confessedly barter, for copper is as 
 much " produce " as wool is. The exchange for so many 
 povuids weight of Silver, which is also as much " produce " 
 as copper is, has only this difference, that we may send our 
 Silver again to a place where it is money. To us it is, in a 
 manner, barter ; but barter with an alleviation. 
 
 But as to this I have been answered that " Barter is 
 " where there is no medium or measure of exchange — where 
 " a man wlio has more wheat than he wants, and wants 
 " iron, must look out for a man who has more iron than he 
 " wants, and who wants wheat. To call by the same name 
 " the case where there are two media, and measures, Gold 
 *' and Silver, the relative value of which has to be deter- 
 " mined, is surely to misuse terms," — to which I reply that 
 the phrase " two media " is an erroneous one. A medium 
 
 Mr. H. II. Gibbs. 
 
23 
 
 of exchange must, I think, be something mutually accepted 
 as such by tsvo parties: Two "media," whereof one is a 
 medium accepted by one party, and the other a medium 
 accepted by another — one by England, and another by 
 Mexico — have nothing to liken them to a medium accepted 
 by both, nothing to take either one of them out of the 
 category of merchandise in the country where it is not 
 accepted as a medium. 
 
 Whether such dealings are properly called barter or not is 
 wholly unimportant. My point is that it is an embarrassment 
 to trade. So far as it is barter, it is disguised, as all barter 
 is, in commercial countries by the use of bills of exchange. 
 
 I am told, and rightly, that the inconvenience of which 
 I complain is only the same as is caused by paper-money 
 issued in excess ; and it is added that as we cannot remedy 
 that mischief — for no agreement can prevent a nation in 
 difficulties from issuing such paper — there is no reason why 
 we should suffer ourselves to be disturbed by this, which is 
 of the same kind. 
 
 But there is a great difference between the two cases, 
 and it is clear that if the fluctuations in exchange in a 
 country using inconvertible paper are due to the unforeseen 
 and excessive emission of such paper-money, the case is 
 worse than with Silver ; but this is only because the 
 difficulty of production is less ; the printing press mine 
 is more readily worked than the mountain mine ; and the 
 calculation of quantities is even more difficult. Mr. Goschen, 
 in a speech on the Silver question, says that people do a 
 very good business with countries where the fluctuations of 
 exchange are enormous. But what is good business? 
 Profitable business is done by some, but at the cost of 
 much enhanced risk, a risk which makes business unprofit- 
 able to others. Such business can hardly be called good. 
 Trade in the example quoted on p. 21, suffers all round — 
 both with India, and generally — by the additional risk ; 
 first owing to the dej)reciation of the silver currency, 
 
24 
 
 which makes imports fall off, and secondly, and in a much 
 greater degree, if the country with which we are dealing is 
 forced, by stress of war or other emergency, to issue in- 
 convertible paper. To send goods to such a country at 
 any time may be risky : to send while the stress continues 
 may be to give away, if notes are issued ad libitum and 
 without warning. 
 
 True; nothing can prevent such a country from doing 
 this : but nothing can prevent a Gold-using nation from 
 taking the same evil course ; and all the evils of a risky 
 exchange would come upon us in our relations with it, and 
 all the evils of the depreciation of Gold Avhich its practical 
 demonetization by a nation so acting would produce ; and 
 they would come on us, as I think can be shown, with two- 
 fold force compared with what they would do if our money 
 did not consist of Gold alone. 
 
 But that a rash issue of inconvertible paper will affect 
 for evil the exchange of the issuing country, and do injury 
 to trade, is no reason for sitting quietly under the more 
 remediable evils of depreciated Silver, or appreciated Gold. 
 
 England, then, has suffered the inconvenience of ex- 
 changing her commodities, not for money, but for another 
 commodity, exposed to a fluctuation in price, which cannot 
 be sufficiently calculated — inconvenience which would cer- 
 tainly not occur if she, and the nations with which she 
 dealt, used the same metal as money, nor, as I think, if they 
 used the same metals as money. 
 
 How has she been able to bear such an uncivilised con- 
 dition of commerce ? It has only been possible because it has 
 gone on, till of late, unperceived. There has been a safety- 
 valve against the pressure, which has prevented the explosion 
 — a salve for the sore, which has prevented the pain being 
 felt. France has been there Avith her Double Standard of 
 Gold and Silver, preserving the equilibrium of the two 
 metals by receiving indifferently the Gold of England and 
 the Silver of India, and acting as a clearing-house between 
 
 J\[?% 11. JI, Gibbs, 
 
25 
 
 the two countries. Mr. Giffen answered this reasoning of 
 mine by saying, that through a long course of years before 
 1848, France had practically only a single standard, and 
 having no Gold to give us could not therefore have done us 
 this service. I reply, that the fact that one metal prac- 
 tically prevailed in France during a certain time is nihil ad 
 rem. She had free mintage all the while for both. That her 
 Gold (or Silver) was exported did cot affect the question. 
 
 His contention is as follows : 
 
 " So long as anybody who has Gold will give it for 15 J 
 " of Silver, Silver cannot fall below 151." 
 
 '' But if nobody, who Is willing to give Gold for 15^ 
 " of Silver, has any Gold to give, he has no power to 
 " arrest the fall of Silver in relation to Gold." 
 
 " This was the case before 1848 In bimetallic countries. 
 " They had no Gold to give for Silver. Therefore, they 
 " could not prevent Silver falling to 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, or 
 " any other price in relation to Gold." 
 
 " The bimetallic law was of no effect." 
 
 This is so far correct that if in a bimetallic country, 
 which stands alone in its bimetallism. Gold becomes the 
 dearer metal, it is theoretically true and practically possible 
 that all the Gold bullion, and, perhaps, the greater portion 
 of the Gold coin also, should leave the country; and then 
 any one In It who may want Gold for any purpose, would 
 have to give such an agio for It as might bring the nominal 
 ratio in that country, between the Silver then become 
 almost the sole current coin, and the desired Gold then 
 become practically a commodity, to any point. 
 
 But that does not in the least Invalidate my contention, 
 which is not that the existence of a Gold and Silver 
 currency In France affects the price of Silver in England, 
 but that it Is the law of Free Mintage, a necessary part of 
 the law of the Double Standard, which of itself maintains 
 a constant and comparatively even market for the metal ; 
 
26 
 
 and I maintain therefore that in England or any other 
 monometallic Gold-using country, that law of free mintage 
 must needs keep the price of the commodity Silver at a 
 point dependent not at all on the power of getting Gold 
 from France, or on the agio which may be paid for it there, 
 but on the course of exchange between the two countries. 
 
 If, for example, France were to restore to-morrow 
 the full operation of her bimetallic law, there can be no 
 doubt that, on the same day, if exchange were about par, 
 the price of Silver here would return to its old point. It 
 would be wholly a question of exchange, and, supposing the 
 exchange to vary only in its normal way under the influ- 
 ence of more or less abundant harvests in France, and more 
 or less demand for foreign commodities of consumption, a 
 chance remittance of 15^ ounces of pure Silver to that 
 country for sale would necessarily establish for the remitter 
 a credit there for which he could draw. If exchange were 
 at par he would sell his draft in this market for £4 4^. llfcf., 
 which is the equivalent of one ounce of pure Gold, calcu- 
 lated at the rate of £3 17^. lO^d. per ounce standard, or if 
 it was above par, for somewhat more — in neither of these 
 cases would he really remit the Silver — but if it was below 
 par his power of remittance would inevitably fix the price 
 below which Silver cannot go in this market. The presence 
 or absence of Gold in Paris, the fact that France had or 
 had not Gold to give us, would not in the least affect the 
 question. It would be wholly a question of exchange — of 
 the balance of trade between the two countries — on France 
 being or not at the moment a debtor to England. 
 
 There would always exist the power of remitting the 
 Silver to Paris for sale, and of drawing for the equivalent, 
 so as to receive it in Gold in London. 
 
 This is exactly what happened in those years between 
 1827 and 1871, in which France was said to be denuded of 
 Gold, yet the price of Silver in England only fluctuated 
 between 58 J and 60g, the average of the lowest year (1845) 
 
 Mr. H. II. Gibbs. 
 
being 59§. Mr. Seyd gives the following list of prices from 
 1827:— 
 
 Year. 
 
 Lowest. 
 
 Highest. 
 
 Yoar. 
 
 Lowest. 
 
 Highest. 
 
 1827 .. 
 
 501 
 
 601 
 
 1854 .. 
 
 605 
 
 61 J 
 
 1828 .. 
 
 591 
 
 60J 
 
 1855 .. 
 
 60 
 
 6V> 
 
 1829 .. 
 
 591 
 
 60 
 
 1856 .. 
 
 60J 
 
 621 
 
 1830 .. 
 
 59J 
 
 60 
 
 1857 .. 
 
 61 
 
 623 
 
 1831 .. 
 
 60 
 
 60^- 
 
 1858 .. 
 
 60| 
 
 611 
 
 1832 .. 
 
 59J 
 
 60^ 
 
 1859 .. 
 
 61|- 
 
 62| 
 
 1833 . . 
 
 58| 
 
 60 
 
 1860 .. 
 
 611 
 
 62| 
 
 1834 .. 
 
 59|- 
 
 60f 
 
 1861 .. 
 
 60i 
 
 613- 
 
 1835 .. 
 
 59J- 
 
 60 
 
 1862 .. 
 
 61 
 
 621 
 
 1836 .. 
 
 591 
 
 60§ 
 
 1863 .. 
 
 61 
 
 61f 
 
 1837 .. 
 
 59 
 
 60e- 
 
 1864 .. 
 
 60J 
 
 62J 
 
 1838 .. 
 
 59| 
 
 601 
 
 1865 .. 
 
 60,1 
 
 61J 
 
 1839 .. 
 
 60 
 
 60i 
 
 1866 .. 
 
 60g 
 
 621 
 
 1840 .. 
 
 601 
 
 60| 
 
 1867 .. 
 
 60,^ 
 
 611 
 
 1841 .. 
 
 59J 
 
 60| 
 
 1868 .. 
 
 601 
 
 61J. 
 
 1842 .. 
 
 591 
 
 59f 
 
 1869 .. 
 
 60 
 
 61 
 
 1843 .. 
 
 59 
 
 59f 
 
 1870 .. 
 
 601 
 
 62 
 
 1844 .. 
 
 59^ 
 
 59| 
 
 1871 .. 
 
 60^ 
 
 601 
 
 1845 .. 
 
 m 
 
 591 
 
 1872* 
 
 591 
 
 6H- 
 
 1846 . . 
 
 59 
 
 601 
 
 1873 .. 
 
 57|- 
 
 59\i 
 
 1847 ., 
 
 58^8 
 
 60J 
 
 1874 t 
 
 571 
 
 59^ 
 
 1848 .. 
 
 581 
 
 60 
 
 1875 .. 
 
 551 
 
 57| 
 
 1849 .. 
 
 591 
 
 601 
 
 1876 .. 
 
 46| 
 
 581 
 
 1850 .. 
 
 591 
 
 61^ 
 
 1877 .. 
 
 531. 
 
 58^ 
 
 1851 .. 
 
 60 
 
 61t 
 
 1878 .. 
 
 491 
 
 554- 
 
 1852 .. 
 
 591 
 
 611 
 
 1879 .. 
 
 49 
 
 53t\ 
 
 1853 .. 
 
 60| 
 
 62f 
 
 1880 .. 
 
 515- 
 
 52|- 
 
 * Demonetization of Silver by Germany, 
 t Suspension of free mintage of Silyer by the Latin Union. 
 
S8 
 
 Though the difference between the profit of Gohl and 
 Silver produced at the mines was not abnormal, a differ- 
 ence existed, as is shown by the fact that France was 
 denuded of Gokl, the dearer metal ; yet the price only 
 fluctuated, as shown in the table. 
 
 The highest price in 1879 Avas 53|-, and the average 
 price last year was 52^^. It is now 52^^. 
 
 It is quite possible that had the relative production of 
 and demand for the two metals been maintained in due pro- 
 portion the same steadiness of price would also have been 
 maintained ; but my contention is, that though that pro- 
 duction and demand had varied, the power of claiming 
 107*1342 francs for my 15J ounces of pure Silver would 
 have tended to steady the price, and that, without the 
 necessity of actually making any such remittance, the 
 other Silver-using countries would necessarily regulate the 
 price they would give for Silver on the price obtainable by 
 remittance to France. 
 
 It is indeed conceivable that an abnormal production of 
 Silver in the mines, or a great diminution of the demand 
 through falling off of trade, or cessation of the use of 
 Silver as money in any country, would force merchants to 
 realise their consignments of Silver by shipping them to 
 France, and drawing against them. Then, possibly, unless 
 the exports of France had kept pace witli this change, 
 either by absolute increase or by diminution of other im- 
 ports, the exchange would go heavily against that country, 
 and a proportionate fall in the price of Silver would be 
 brought about ; but it would then also be entirely a (|ues- 
 tion of exchange, of the balance of exports and imports, 
 including, of course, the import of Silver. 
 
 So long as there was ])lenty of Gold in France to remit, 
 the fluctuation in the exchange, and consequently in the 
 price of Silver in this market, would lie between very 
 narrow limits, because the exchanges would be from time 
 to time rectified by ren^it^nces of Gold, but when all that 
 
 Mr, If, II. Gibbs, 
 
29 
 
 could o'o was gone, as in the time referred to before 1848, 
 even then, if the exelianges remained at a point favourable 
 to France, Silver could not fall. 
 
 It is true that a continued fall in the exchange, or even 
 the expense of coining more Silver than was needed for 
 internal commerce, would become intolerable to the bi- 
 metallic country, and cause it to do as France has done 
 from fear of some such result, and suspend the full opera- 
 tion of the bimetallic law ; but until that suspension took 
 place, the free mintage guaranteed by that law must tie 
 the price of Silver to the exchange between London and 
 Paris. 
 
 Bimetallism, it is said, in one country only is an im- 
 possibility. That is only an equivocal use of the word 
 " Bimetallism." A Bimetallic law, and the free mintage 
 which is a necessary part of it, may perfectly well exist in 
 one country alone, and has, in fact, existed in France about 
 a hundred years ; but if by bimetallism is meant the cir- 
 culation of the two metals at the same time, it is quite true 
 that Gold and Silver cannot long remain and perform the 
 functions of a national currency in any single country while 
 it has monometallic neighbours. For those neighbours the 
 benefits of its bimetallic system will remain; for itself 
 remain whatever inconveniences may attach to the 
 system. 
 
 For the last sixty years those benefits have been ours ; 
 France acting as a clearing-house between England and 
 India has been our safecruard ao-ainst the inconveniences of 
 the depreciation of the currency of the latter country, but 
 now that the clearing-house has, for a time at least, sus- 
 pended its operations, the last four or ^\e years have 
 shown us the existence of the evil, and the danger of its 
 increase. 
 
 I do not think that anyone has endeavoured to show 
 either that there is no evil at all, or, if there is, that it is 
 bearable or incurable. Patience has been liberally pre- 
 
80 
 
 scribed to us, and other remedies proposed, which, it was 
 thought, might be provided for us without any intervention 
 or care of our own. Either (1) the over-production of 
 Silver Avould cease, there would be at last an end to the 
 abnormal flood of Silver poured on the market by the 
 German sales of their demonetized coin, and trade would 
 revive from its then existing depression, and when these 
 things had happened, all w^ould return to its normal con- 
 dition, Silver and Gold would bear their accustomed ratio 
 to one another, the losses of the Indian Government would 
 cease, and stability return to our commerce with Silver- 
 using countries. 
 
 Or, (2) if none of these things happened, then the 
 pressure of the evil, if it was an evil, w^ould force France 
 into her old channel, and Germany, if not into her own old 
 channel of Silver monometallism, at least into accord with 
 bimetallic France, and all w^ould be well. 
 
 Let us consider the first alternative. 
 
 The over-production in America has ceased, trade has 
 in some measure improved, and for the present at least 
 there is a cessation of German Silver sales, and these two 
 circumstances, together with some demand for the Con- 
 tinent, did for a time cause a slight improvement in the 
 price of the metal ; but where is the return to the normal 
 condition which prevailed from 1 820 onwards ? Where is 
 the end of the losses of the Indian Government ? 
 
 It is clear that even if the dead weight of the German 
 Silver were removed from the market, in no case could 
 Silver, while treated as a commodity, return to its former 
 position with respect to Gold ; for there would still remain 
 one great cause of a lower price in the cessation of the 
 demand for Germany (and some other coimtries) for 
 coining. The Indian Government therefore would find its 
 difficulties alleviated, but not removed; and we could 
 expect no stability in whatever average price might be 
 arrived at when the actual disturbing causes were removed, 
 
 Mr. H. H. Gibhs. 
 
31 
 
 so long as the compensating balance .afforded by the French 
 Double Standard was not restored. 
 
 A new demonetization of Silver or Gold, a great 
 discovery of either metal, great conmiercia^ disturbance in 
 countries using one, while those using the other were in 
 comparative prosperity — either of these causes might again 
 bring about violent disturbance in the relations between 
 Gold and Silver, and renew the evils of which we now 
 complain. 
 
 A new influx of Silver and Gold from the mines is, of 
 these disturbing causes, that one of which we need take 
 least account. If such new discoveries are made, we 
 cannot help it ; we can neither predict them nor provide 
 against them. If they come, they come ; and nothing we 
 can do can influence their coming or not coming. But 
 demonetization by other countries is an evil which we may 
 hasten or prevent. The example of Germany is already 
 followed by some minor nations, and the more there are that 
 adopt this course, the more do those who still use Silver 
 feel their position to be a doubtful one, and the result may 
 be that suggested in my Preface, namely, that others may 
 be in-esistibly driven to follow the example, and Silver 
 may cease to be money in France and the Latin Union, in 
 Germany and the United States. 
 
 As to the other alternative : No doubt all would be well 
 if the other nations would agree in the use of the Double 
 Standard, while we retain our present system unaltered, so 
 far harmonizing with bimetallism that we have a Gold 
 standard in one part of the empire, and Silver in another ; 
 but it may be doubted whether if the two nations most 
 concerned in the Silver question, England for the sake of 
 India, the United States for their own sakes, as producers 
 of the metal, hold aloof, the others will step into the gap. 
 Be this as it may, the United States have again opened the 
 question, and a second Conference is to meet in a few days. 
 It is much to be hoped that it will issue in some international 
 
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 accord, for if not, it is too likely that the affair will go from 
 bad to worse, both in the appreciation of Gold and in the 
 depreciation of Silver, and agreement, which is the only 
 real remedy, will become every year more difficult. 
 
 It has, I think, been shown that agreement to adopt a 
 single metal as the medium of exchange is practically 
 impossible ; but the adoption of the Double Standard by 
 the chief nations of the world would provide them a common 
 metallic basis which now does and still would amply suffice 
 for the wants of commerce. Roughly speaking, one half 
 the world uses Gold, and the other half uses Silver : the 
 adoption of the Double Standard would make this change 
 only, that all the world would use both Gold and Silver. 
 There would be no more increase or diminution (consequent 
 on such a measure) in the quantity of circulating medium 
 among nations than if the whole quantity of both metals 
 were fused into what the Romans called an electrum, that 
 is to say, a compound metal of Gold and Silver. I have 
 already said (and it is little more than a truism) that no 
 metal has ever been the money of any country without 
 national consent. Even an inconvertible paper currency, 
 valueless though it is, may serve as the money of a nation, 
 but it must have national consent to make it so serve, and 
 that consent can make it serve notwithstanding that it is 
 bad in principle and in use. 
 
 That any single metal should be imiversally money we 
 need international consent ; but neither for a Gold measure 
 of value alone, nor for a Silver measure of value alone, 
 have we that international consent, and I see nothing in 
 the reason of the thing why all nations should not arrive at 
 a common consent to use both together in a certain relative 
 ratio, ti'usting to the establishment of free mintage to 
 produce as its consequence continuous and unrestricted 
 demand, and thus to preserve that ratio unaltered. 
 
 What that ratio should be, if such a thing be possible, 
 I will discuss presently. 
 
 Mr. II. //. Gibbs, 
 
83 
 
 That Ijotli metals are severally well fitted to be nioney 
 all liistory shows, and the least costly of the two was 
 " current money with the merchant " before the other was 
 used except for ornament, probably because it was more 
 abundant. A certain abundance is necessary; for there 
 must be enough to serve as 
 
 *• The . . . common di'udge 'twixt man and man ;" 
 
 but one principal necessity is that its natural cost, or rather 
 difficulty, of production be considerable, so that there be 
 not too much abundance, for that is a safeguard against the 
 currency becoming redundant, and prices of commodities 
 inconveniently rising. But as I have said above, there are 
 other metals and other substances more difficult of access 
 and more costly to produce than either Gold or Silver. 
 Scarceness alone is not a sufficient qualification, nor im- 
 perishableness, nor portableness, necessary as these and 
 other qualities are. 
 
 Nor, on the other hand, is inequality of cost, or cheap- 
 ness of one portion of the metal used, a bar to its fitness 
 to be a measure of value. That a great portion of the 
 Gold discovered in Australia and California costs half or 
 a quarter as much per ounce as the Gold discovered in 
 some other countries, is no disparagement to the fitness of 
 cheap and dear Gold alike to serve as a medium of exchange. 
 Why should it be more prejudicial that a metal the pro- 
 duction of which costs only a sixteenth of what Gold costs 
 should be yoked with Gold in a certain proportion to do 
 that service for the whole world, than that cheap Gold 
 should be yoked with dear Gold. I can see little difference 
 but one of degree in the two cases, and that the metal in 
 question is white instead of yellow. We cannot dis- 
 tinguish between cheap Gold and dear Gold, and it seems 
 needless to make any other distinction between cheap 
 Silver and dear Gold than what nature has made at the 
 time of their being yoked together. 
 
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 But the objection usually raised to a Double Standard, 
 to the concurrent use of Gold and Silver as money, is not 
 that they ought not to be so yoked but that they could 
 not ; and I will now proceed to state the objections which 
 are most commonly made, having first set down distinctly 
 what it is that the advocates of the Double Standard desire. 
 
 Let the Governments of the chief commercial nations 
 agree upon what is the present approximate ratio of Silver 
 to Gold — we will assume, for the sake of having a basis to 
 start from, that 15 J is to be that ratio. It is one on which, 
 as we are informed, the Governments of France and the 
 United States are already agreed, and which many of even 
 our strongest opponents are willing to allow to be the only 
 one possible, if the principle of the Double Standard itself 
 could be accepted. Let our Government agree, then, that 
 for the British Dominions 113*0016 grains of pure Gold 
 (123-27447 Standard) or 1751;5247 grains of pure Silver 
 (1893*5403 Standard) shall be indifierently a good discharge 
 for a debt of one pound sterling, and that they will coin all 
 Silver that any one brings to the Mint into pieces of 
 350*3049 grains pure, the debtor to have always the option 
 of paying his debt either in Gold or Silver. For other 
 countries the weight and denomination and currency of 
 Silver and Gold coins would be specified in a corresponding 
 manner. This is the whole Bill. 
 
 The answer to the question " What is a pound ? " would 
 be "either 113*0016 grains of pure Gold, or 1751*5247 jmre 
 " Silver, at the option of the payer." 
 
 Now the objections so far as I have been able to gather 
 them are the following : — 
 
 I. It is impossible to regulate by legislative enactment 
 the value of any commodity: Gold and Silver are commo- 
 dities; therefore it is impossible to fix their relative values, 
 
 Mr. H. H. Gibbs, 
 
85 
 
 II. If it be attempted, nature will revolt against it, and 
 tliat wliicli is in reality and in despite of law the cheaper 
 of the two metals will prevail, and tlie other will leave the 
 country, as has been the case in our own experience in 
 France both with Gold and Silver. 
 
 III. But if it wej^e possible, consent is admitted to be 
 necessary ; and consent is impossible. 
 
 IV. But if consent were possible, and if it sufficed to 
 fix a reasonably approximate ratio between Gold and Silver, 
 there would always be a preference for Gold, which will 
 therefore bear a greater proportionate price; because, its 
 bulk being smaller, it is (1) cheaper to transmit, and (2) 
 easier to count. 
 
 V. Supposing a twofold standard established, the effects 
 of a new flood of Silver from the mines w^ould be disastrous. 
 It would overwhelm commerce, give a sudden and 
 dangerous impulse to prices, and disturb the relation 
 between creditor and debtor. 
 
 VI. Supposing its establishment to be on the basis of a 
 ratio of 15^ Silver to 1 Gold, while the existing proportion 
 is perhaps 18, then the effect would be, first, that such a 
 stimulus would be given to the working of Silver mines all 
 over the world that this apprehended flood of Silver would 
 really and inevitably come upon us ; and secondly, that 
 even if no increase of production took place, it would of 
 itself increase the total circulation of the world by the 
 addition to it of 2 J ounces for every 15 J. 
 
 VII. There would also be the material inconvenience 
 that all Silver token-coins would have to be called in and 
 recoined. 
 
 VIII. We have gone on for sixty years in great pros- 
 perity with a single standard. Why change ? 
 
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 IX. It is impracticable ; it may suit other nations, but 
 it is impossible to present it in a form that can be accept- 
 able to England. 
 
 I do not think I have misrepresented the objections, the 
 first seven of which seem to me to be sufficiently cogent, and 
 to deserve and require most careful answers. The two last 
 are not, I think, of so much importance, but they have been 
 seriously urged by good economists, and should be noticed. 
 
 I will now state what I have to urge against these 
 objections. 
 
 I. " It is impossible to fix by law the value or rather 
 " the price of any commodity, and the precious metals 
 " being commodities, no price can be fixed for them." 
 
 There is no doubt of the truth of the proposition that 
 it is impossible to fix by law the money value of any 
 commodity ; and were it possible, it would be as impolitic 
 to enact that Silver should not be sold at less than 60d. an 
 ounce, as it would be to ordain that wheat should never be 
 sold at less than 60^. a quarter. But, by the hypothesis, 
 Silver is to become part of the money of the country ; 
 Silver and Gold arc to stand to one another in a different 
 relation from that in which either of them stands to wheat. 
 Under our present monetary law Gold stands to Silver in 
 exactly the same relation as Gold stands to wheat, and it 
 cannot be but that some change in those relations must 
 result from Silver becoming equally with Gold the measure 
 of value and means of payment for wheat — that is to say, 
 that a debt of £3 17^. 10^<^/. incurred for wheat may be 
 discharged either in an ounce of standard Gold, or in 15 J 
 ounces of standard Silver. The words " price and value " 
 seem to me to be misapplied in describing the mutual rela- 
 tion of the metals forming together what I venture to call 
 one metallic standard of value, that is to say forming in- 
 separable parts of one monetary system. 
 
 Mr. II. II. Gihbs. 
 
87 
 
 INIoney cannot measure money, both metals being ac- 
 cepted as money. The question of price cannot arise 
 between them, and their price cannot therefore be fixed by 
 the State or otherwise. If their vakies measured in other 
 commodities are by nature unequal, the State can by no 
 law and no declaration make them equal ; but in passing a 
 law which makes 15 J ounces of Silver a good discharge for 
 a debt of one ounce of Gold (we are supposing that to be 
 the true proportion existing at the time of the making of 
 the law) it does an act which, as I shall presently show, 
 makes future inequality between the tw^o metals unim- 
 portant, and their service as money unaccompanied by any 
 injustice, inconvenience or irregularity. 
 
 It is true that in adopting a twofold standard, and fixing 
 by law an arbitrary ratio of one of the constituent parts of 
 that standard to the other, we do incidentally regulate the 
 price of a commodity; but it is only incidentally, and as 
 a consequence necessarily flow^ing from free mintage, and 
 from what I have, I think, shown to be practicable and 
 reasonable legislation. That is to say, we fix a price in 
 Silver for that portion of Gold-yield Avhich is used in the 
 arts, and not for the purposes of coinage or currency, and 
 a price in Gold of that portion of the Silver-yield w^hich is 
 used in the arts and not for circulation ; but the quantities, 
 whether of Silver or Gold, thus used are so small as com- 
 pared wath those doing duty as money, that the efiect of 
 thus fixing the price is certainly quite insignificant. 
 
 II. " The dearer metal would be exported and the 
 " cheaper metal w^ould take its place, thus causing a loss to 
 " the country." 
 
 The cheapness of one metal in the market and the con- 
 sequent export of the other are the two cardinal points on 
 which the whole question turns, and I hope that in any 
 answer to this w^hich may appear some attempt will be 
 made to show how, and by what steps, the supposed 
 
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 difference of market value could be brought about, and 
 how, and by what steps, the " dearer " metal would dis- 
 appear. Hitherto all that is alleged is that one metal has 
 become dearer, and has disappeared under circumstances 
 wholly different from those suggested. 
 
 The allegation is that there would be a difference 
 between the mint price and market price of Silver, but it 
 seems to me impossible. I wish to know how the market 
 price could be quoted. In Avhat Avould it be reckoned? Not 
 in Gold, for it is not conceivable that a holder of Silver 
 would sell his 15 J ounces standard for a less sum than 
 £3 175. lOld. (or £3 175. 9^. Bank price), when by taking 
 them to the Mint he could by law have them coined for 
 him into pieces of Silver (19 double florins and small 
 change), which would be a legal discharge for a debt of 
 that amount: not in commodities, for it is not conceivable 
 that the seller of commodities would take less in Gold than 
 he would in Silver, when he would have no reason to 
 expect that his Gold would be worth more at home or 
 abroad. Only if his Gold would buy him more Silver or 
 more commodities elsewhere would he care in which metal 
 his price was counted. 
 
 But by the hypothesis other commercial nations arc to 
 be in the same case with England, and he cannot, therefore, 
 anywhere procure Silver at a cost of fewer commodities than 
 he can Gold. 
 
 But the miner, it may be said, the cost of production of 
 his Silver being less in proportion than that of Gold, will 
 be able and willing to sell it for a lower price. Why 
 should he do so ? If he procures it at the cost of less 
 labour and fewer commodities, so much the better for him. 
 But he will not on that account part with it for a less 
 number of dollars than he could get for it at the nearest 
 mint, less cost of carriage and interest. The l)uyer would 
 have to send it thither, and get the mint price : why should 
 not the seller do the same ? If not, and if he sells at 
 
 Mr. H. H. Gibbs, 
 
 I 
 
89 
 
 lower price tlian liis buyer could thus obtain, he makes him 
 a present of his profit. In discussing this question one of 
 the most frequent mistakes is to confuse the profit of the 
 miner with the supposed advantage of the debtor. It is 
 commonly said that the debtor -will be master of the 
 situation, that he will be able to take advantage of the 
 creditor and pay his debts in the cheaper metal. How is 
 he to come by the "cheaper metal?" Plow will it be cheap 
 to him ? Were Englishmen able to pay their bills the easier 
 because Gold was to be had in Australia for the picking 
 up ? The only effect of cheapness of production is to give 
 profit to the miner and his men, and of course to enhance 
 prices if cheapness of production increases the quantity 
 produced ; but they will be prices counted not in the 
 miner's Silver only, but in his neighbour's Gold as w^ell. 
 
 The cost of production will no doubt regulate the value 
 of Gold or Silver reckoned in one another, or in other 
 commodities, if neither metal is money; it will do so if either 
 metal is money ; i.e., if one is a purchasable commodity, and 
 the other money, the measure in which the value of that 
 commodity is counted ; but its effect will not be the same if 
 both metals are money under an international compact. 
 Their cost of production will then regulate their value not 
 in one another, but in other commodities only. 
 
 Under such a compact Silver and Gold are as one 
 metal — limbs of the same body, parts of the same whole — 
 fused like an electrum into one mass ; and when both are 
 recognized as the measure of other commodities, whose value 
 as a mass varies with the total quantity of that measure, the 
 cost of production does not practically determine the mutual 
 value of the two parts of it. I say "practically," because, 
 though no law and no agreement can make the proportion 
 between those two parts other than what nature and labour 
 may have made it, my contention is that what law and 
 agreement can do is to make the variations in that propor- 
 tion wholly unimportant in the relation of the several metals 
 
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 to the commodities of which they arc jointly the measm-e. 
 Diminished cost of production, resulting in increased 
 production of either part of the mass of metallic money 
 cannot, I think, reduce the value of that part in respect of 
 commodities, but the value of the whole mass. 
 
 But let us suppose for the sake of argument " one 
 " metal or the other" to be the dearer of the two, and that 
 therefore it " will leave the country," and the depreciated 
 metal will remain. It is admitted on all hands that such 
 was the case with France when she stood alone a bimetallic 
 nation surrounded by monometallic neighbours ; and that 
 such must be the case with any single country so standing. 
 
 It must with equal unanimity be admitted that if all 
 commercial nations without exception had but one mind in 
 the matter and received Gold and Silver alike (in a fixed 
 proportion) in payment of debt, no such exodus of one or 
 other could take place. Whither would the dearer metal 
 go ? Surely the objectors will not say that it will leave all 
 countries simultaneously ! 
 
 But my contention is that the union for this purpose of 
 two or more of the principal nations would be sufficient so 
 to diminish whatever evil France may have sufiered as to 
 make it of very little consequence ; and that if England 
 were to lead the way not only would all Europe follow, but 
 even if all did not, yet the fear of such an export, or, 
 indeed, of any export at all of importance, when both 
 metals were used by so large a combination, would be 
 merely chimerical, and I think it certain that if such a 
 compact were once made, there could be in effect no diver- 
 gence between the nominal and real value of the precious 
 metals measured in each other, and that therefore no 
 debtor could gain in that Avay any advantage over his 
 creditor. If the other nations, as is probable, did follow 
 their example, assurance Avould be made doubly sure ; but 
 supposing some nations not to follow, could the dearest 
 metal be attracted to them in any quantity ? Could we 
 
 Mr, jr, U, (uhbs. 
 
41 
 
 send our Gold to Mexico, for instance, and fetch Silver 
 from thence ? Gold is for the Mexicans an article of mer- 
 chandise. We might export Gold to that country, and it 
 would probably be a bad speculation ; but if we did so, 
 why should the Mexican sell us or pay us 16 or 17 ounces 
 of Silver for our ounce of Gold when he could himself send 
 15^ ounces to England, and buy not the ounce of Gold 
 indeed, but the commodities that it would purchase ? 
 
 It must, however, be admitted that Mexico, China, and 
 any other country remaining outside the compact will stand 
 in exactly the same relation towards the greater part of 
 Europe, the United States, and all other nations within the 
 compact, as the whole commercial world stood towards 
 France when that country stood alone in her bimetallism. 
 
 It is scarcely necessary to point out how great would 
 be the difference between the action of the whole commer- 
 cial world upon France, and the action of a few nations 
 upon a large number. The attracting force of those out- 
 side the compact would be infinitely less, and the diminu- 
 tion of the mass of the " dearer " metal held by those 
 within it would be inappreciable. 
 
 I will take China as an instance. If China should 
 absorb more Silver than she now does, more than the 
 annual production would supply, it is possible, though 
 highly improbable, that Silver might leave the bimetallic 
 nations, or rise to a i)remium. 
 
 Or if China should indeed take to imitating the 
 foreigner and adopt a Gold standard, she could, no doubt, 
 remit her Silver to Europe, and establish credits there. 
 Then, the debtor having the choice of metals, she would 
 inevitably have to pay a premium for the Gold which 
 would be remitted to her, and she would thus be delibe- 
 rately making a loss without any compensatory gain ; and 
 if Europe did thus remain with the "cheaper" metal, it 
 would be with a larger quantity of it that she would re- 
 main, and she would have lost nothing. 
 
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 But in what respect would Europe be in a worse case 
 under a bimetallic system than she would be now if China 
 should choose to demonetize Silver ? The bugbear is not 
 of my raising, but of my opponents'. She would make her 
 voluntary loss in a different way. She would take a leaf 
 out of the German book, sell her Silver at a loss, and 
 having thus established credits, would demand the Gold 
 which in the other case she would have to buy. 
 
 III. " Consent between nations is impossible." 
 
 It is easier to allege than to prove the impossibility of 
 agreement. Monetary concord between the various States 
 of Germany would have seemed impossible a few years 
 ago, and yet it has come to pass. There was no ante- 
 cedent reason why it should have been possible to bring 
 about the Latin Union, but it exists, and has been an im- 
 portant factor in the present condition of aftairs. I believe 
 that the only hindrance to international agreement lies in 
 the attitude of this country, and in the opinions heretofore 
 prevalent here ; but if it can be shown that no real dis- 
 advantage to England in her internal commerce, and much 
 advantage in her external relations, would attend the 
 adoption of a twofold standard, that hindrance would, no 
 doubt, disappear. 
 
 We already know that France and the United States 
 are willing, provided only that others are willing also, that 
 Germany was anxious for a Conference on the subject, and 
 has, it is said, already nominated representatives. Austria 
 would certainly make no demur, and Italy would lose, as 
 the other nations would lose, the motives which are 
 impelling her and them to resort to a single Gold standard; 
 and the dangers which appear to me to threaten the com- 
 merce of England, and which lie in the increased and 
 increasing appreciation of Gold, would be averted. 
 Practically the decision rests with ourselves, and, if we 
 
 Mr. II. II. Gibbs. 
 
43 
 
 Avcro ulllingf, that consent which is said to be impossible 
 Avould at once exist. 
 
 But, it will be said, that even supposing all were to be 
 willing to come to an agreement in principle, there is no 
 probability of their being able to fix upon a ratio between 
 the two metals that would commend itself to all the con- 
 tracting powers, and at the same time be just to debtor and 
 creditor alike. 
 
 The ratio was, indeed, theoretically, one of the great 
 difficulties in the way of an agreement, but not practically. 
 Prima facie the just way would be to ascertain approxi- 
 mately the existing proportion between the two metals, and 
 agree to fix that as the proportion at which the mints shall 
 coin the Gold and Silver brought to them. 
 
 But how is that existing proportion to be ascertained ? 
 The market price will not show it, for the present position 
 of Silver in the market is almost entirely the result of its 
 demonetization, and the day Germany returned to a Silver 
 currency Silver also would begin to return to its former 
 level, even without any question of the Double Standard ; 
 and I believe that if Silver were as widely used as before 
 it would be found that there would be very little difference 
 between the true proportion and the ratio of 15^ Avhich, by 
 the necessity of the case, w^as always arbitrary, and more 
 or less the result of a compromise. 
 
 I will discuss presently what would be the effect of 
 fixing that ratio if it should really be much higher than 
 the existing proportion, and w^hat would be the effect of 
 fixing it at 17 or 18 or any other ratio differing from 15 J. 
 This last has been the constant ratio for a much longer 
 pei-iod than any other. Five-franc pieces bearing that 
 relation to the Gold coinage of France are still legal tender 
 in that country; thalers bearing that relation to the Gold 
 coinage are still current in Germany at their full nominal 
 value. In those two countries, therefore, the fixing the 
 ratio at 17 or 18 would inflict some loss on the debtor, just 
 
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 as fixing it here at a higher rate than its existing market 
 yahie Avoiild inflict some loss on the creditor, ^vho might 
 have to pay a debt in Silver to the foreigner. But as the 
 present cheapness of the Silver which the creditor would 
 in such a case have to buy arises from no action of his own 
 country, and the renewed deamess would arise also without 
 the necessity of any action of this country (for it would 
 return by the action of the foreigner if Silver were 
 remonetized and free mintage restored whether we retained 
 our single standard or adopted the double one), he would 
 have little reason to complain ; and indeed the making his 
 case worse by adopting too high a ratio under the Double 
 Standard Avould not be so great an injustice as the making 
 the debtor's worse by the depreciation of the lawful money 
 of his country which would result from the adoption of 
 too low a one. 
 
 It is quite true that the appreciation of Silver, whatever 
 it may be, w^ould involve a corresponding depreciation of 
 Gold ; and it has been asked whether, inasmuch as England 
 is the greatest holder of Gold, it would not be England 
 who more than any other w^ould be injured by its deprecia- 
 tion, and whether, therefore, it is not unreasonable to expect 
 that England should concur in the establishment of a 
 Double Standard with such a fixed ratio between Gold and 
 Silver as would ensure that depreciation. 
 
 Premising first that it is not alone the holders of the 
 metal itself who would be affected by its depreciation, the 
 answer is that the appreciation and depreciation of Silver 
 and Gold respectively do not depend on our concurrence. 
 The effect would be produced, either by a return on the 
 part of Germany to the Single Silver Standard from which 
 she departed in 1872, or by an agreement between France 
 and the United States with or without other European 
 States, to return to the Double Standard, with a fixed ratio 
 of 151 to 1. 
 
 But it may again be asked, " If it is certain that, in 
 Mr. If. rr Gihhs, 
 
45 
 
 " case no general agreement resulted from the Conference 
 
 " one of the above-mentioned alternatives will happen, 
 " why should England intervene, and why not rather main- 
 " tain an expectant attitude and be in readiness to profit 
 " by whatever may be the ultimate outcome of the dclibe- 
 " rations?" 
 
 If it were certain, and if the abstinence of England 
 from co-operation did not involve a certain amount of insta- 
 bility in whatever action other nations may take, I could 
 desire nothing better; but it is far from being certain, and 
 the very knowledge that there is a strong and widely-spread 
 opinion against bimetallism in this country will tend to 
 make it even less probable than it would otherwise be. 
 
 But if the result is that neither is Silver reinstated in 
 Germany, nor the Double Standard in France and the 
 United States, that which does seem certain is that Gold 
 will be inevitably adopted by those who are now in doubt, 
 with the result upon prices to which I have before adverted. 
 
 Now it is worth while to inquire what practical effect 
 for evil the supposed depreciation of Gold would have. 
 Here is the sum of it. Suppose the Gold used for the 
 purpose of money to be £500,000,000, and the Silver used 
 for the same purpose to be £ 500,000,000 (the ^proportions 
 are not correct, but near enough, probably, for an illustra- 
 tion). Then, if the present price of silver be o'2d. an ounce 
 (a ratio of about 18 to 1), these £500,000,000 are contained 
 in 192,307,690 lbs. troy. Declare the ratio to be 15^ to 1, 
 and each of those lbs. troy becomes the equivalent of about 
 £3 sterling, and the £500,000,000 becomes £576,923,000— 
 an apparent gain to the holders of Silver of some 15 per 
 cent. But the whole £1,000,000,000 of circulation would 
 have been inflated by an addition of £76,923,000, and 
 depreciated, therefore, to the extent of about 7 per cent., 
 which depreciation being shared by the Silver and Gold 
 alike, the Gold-holders and Silver-holders alike would 
 suffer a loss in the rise of prices, for their share of which 
 
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 loss the Silver-liolders would be more than compensated. 
 The loss would not be a very great one, even if this were 
 the true state of the case ; but if the measure is really 
 advantageous for this country, even as the least of two 
 evils, it may be desirable to sacrifice some exactness and to 
 incur a small loss for the sake of bringing it about by 
 common accord. I have shown that the mischief which 
 could be done would be very small, even if the real 
 difference were that between 15^ and 18; but, as the 
 difference would be only that between 15 J and the true 
 proportion under remonetization of Silver, the suj)posed 
 prejudice would not be worth considering. 
 
 I have not desired to exaggerate the dangers which 
 may follow upon the appreciation of Gold, but I think it 
 well deserves careful examination whether they would not 
 be more material than any which could be caused by a 
 slight advance in the purchasing power of Silver. 
 
 Again, it may be objected, if the chief commercial 
 nations had agreed on the principle of a Double Standard, 
 and on the ratio between the two metals, what probability 
 would there be of any such concert being maintained ? 
 Treaties are broken every day, and so, it may be thought, 
 would this, if not by the reversion of one or more nations 
 to one or other single standard, at least by a possible change 
 in the ratio. 
 
 Other treaties may be broken, because by breaking them 
 a nation seeks to bring advantage political or pecuniary to 
 itself; but the Double Standard once establislied, I believe, 
 the breaking of this treaty would touch home interests so 
 widely spread, and so deeply rooted, that a change would 
 not be lightly made. 
 
 In one particular indeed it must be admitted that there 
 would be no guarantee for the maintenance of the treaty. 
 Whatever the agreement, and however binding its terms, 
 nothing can prevent any nation, party to it, from making 
 short work of its metallic currency, by an issue, under 
 3fr. H, H. Gibbs. 
 
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 stress of war, or for any other reason, of an inconvertible 
 paper currency. The metallic money would in that case 
 flow over into the currency of other nations. 
 
 But what happens noio if a nation using a Gold 
 Standard issues inconvertible paper ? The Gold flows over 
 into the Gold-using countries, affecting their prices more 
 sharply than would the Gold and Silver which might leave 
 a bimetallic country so acting, and would be spread over 
 the whole world of commerce. 
 
 In any case the paper-issuing country would remain 
 entirely without influence on the rest, when once her 
 metallic money had left her. She would be outside the 
 pale and would in no way affect the coherence of the 
 others. 
 
 But some one may say, " If, after the ratio is once 
 " ascertained and fixed, the relative market price of Silver 
 " and Gold changes enormously, surely it must be not only 
 " expedient but necessary to change the ratio. Suppose 
 " Silver to become as rare as Gold — suppose it to become 50 
 " times commoner than Gold — is it conceivable that a ratio 
 " of 15^ to 1 could be maintained ? " 
 
 I have already shown, I think, that, when both were 
 money, there could not be a market price as distinguished 
 from a mint price of either metal — of Silver or Gold — 
 their price would necessarily be measured in commodities, 
 not in one another. Gold and Silver would be as one 
 metal; and the only effect of such a change would be, 
 that if the supposed rarity of Silver had produced a 
 diminution of the common mass of money in the world the 
 prices of other commodities would fall, or if its supposed 
 abundance had produced an increase of that common mass, 
 the prices of other commodities would rise ; • but such 
 diminution or such enhancement must, in the nature of 
 things, be gradual, and proportionate to the gradual dimi- 
 nution or increase of production; and to these the daily 
 
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 transactions of trade would adjust themselves without 
 sudden or violent disturbance. 
 
 Secondly, the intrinsic danger and injustice of a change 
 would be great. 
 
 Whatever ratio we now fix, no practical injury is done 
 to the general interests of England. If we fix it a little 
 too low or a little too high, the interest of a score of 
 holders of Silver would be affected. That which they 
 now hold as a commodity would be to a trifling extent 
 raised or lowered in price, and there would be an end. 
 
 But a twofold standard once established. Silver becomes 
 a money of the realm, and a change would affect the 
 interest of every buyer and every seller, for the relation of 
 money to all purchasable commodities would be violently 
 altered. If, for example, we could suppose that the true 
 proportion of Silver to Gold had come to be 20 to 1 instead 
 of 15 to 1, and it should be decreed that the legal ratio 
 should be changed accordingly, then the whole mass of 
 Silver coin and bullion held in the country would be 
 reduced in value by one-fourth, and the holder mulcted to 
 that extent. 
 
 It needs but to mention the inconvenience which the 
 mere apprehension of impending change would cause, if 
 such change were supposed possible, to show that if 
 Eno^land should once resolve on such a change as the 
 adoption of Silver as a joint standard with Gold, she must 
 surely adopt it once for all, and with no arriere pensee of 
 future changes to and fro according as one or the other 
 metal might seem to be relatively more abundant. 
 
 IV. The fourth objection depends on the statement that 
 " there will always be a preference for Gold." 
 
 To this statement there is the short but decisive reply, 
 that half the world has a preference for Silver. 
 Mr. 11. II. Gibbs. 
 
40 
 
 The reasons alleged for the statement — viz., cost of 
 transmission, and labour of connting, can also, I think, be 
 easily disposed of. In point of fact, it is not cheaper to 
 transmit Gold than it is to transmit Silver, the freight and 
 insurance being ad valorem, and the same for either. The 
 bulk either of Silver or Gold is so small as to be of no 
 moment in calculating the freight ; and if there he any 
 difference between them, Silver would have the advantage, 
 inasmuch as Gold, by reason of its less bulk, value for 
 value, is more exposed to the danger of robbery. 
 
 As to Gold being preferred because of its being easy 
 to count, that point leads to the enquiry into what practical 
 and material consequences would result from the adoption 
 of a twofold standard by all nations, irrespective of any 
 supposed effect on prices, to which latter point I will advert 
 under Objection V. 
 
 Would currencies remain as they are, Gold in England, 
 Silver in India, &c. ? 
 
 I answer, certainly they would. Certainly no revolu- 
 tionary change would be brought about by the admission 
 of Silver into one country and Gold into the other as 
 unlimited legal tender. Every one would be entitled to 
 discharge any debt contracted after the passing of the law, 
 in coins of standard Gold or in coins of standard Silver at 
 his pleasure ; but I see no reason to imagine that the latter 
 would be more ready to his hand than the former, or 
 indeed as ready. No one need fear that he will be in 
 danger of receiving a sack of 5000 double florins for a debt 
 of £1000, or of having to hire a porter to carry a bag of 
 Silver when he has to pay his tailor. I apprehend that 
 all large payments from hand to hand would ])e made as 
 now by cheque ; and all less ones of above £5 by notes ; 
 and all smaller ones by sovereigns and the Silver tokens 
 representing parts of a sovereign. Payments in this 
 country in Silver standard coins would be only exceptional. 
 Silver is even now a legal tender up to 40^. Does 
 
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 anybody ever pay a debt of 40.f. in Silver? I can 
 imagine no reason wliy the Englishman should leave the 
 " preference" which he now truly has for a Gold currency, 
 nor the Indian his " preference " for a Silver currency. 
 Those that use Gold for their daily transactions would use 
 Gold still ; and those that use Silver would use Silver still. 
 
 I presume, indeed, that the law would provide that 
 debts or other payments falling due under contracts dated 
 before the law came into operation might be demanded in 
 Gold; but in reality there would be no reason why the 
 debtor under such contracts should ordinarily j)refer to pay 
 in Silver rather than in Gold, nor why the creditor should 
 prefer to receive in Gold rather than in Silver, any small 
 sums not payable as usual by cheque or note . 
 
 Now suppose a bimetallic law passed to take effect on 
 the 1st of January in any year, so soon as the Mint was 
 made ready for the change ; the actual thing which would 
 happen is this : A shipment of Silver would arrive in course 
 of time from Vera Cruz or some other port of shipment. 
 It would be transhipped as now to India, or to any country 
 in which there was a demand ; just as a shipment of Gold 
 is when the exchange is against the country, or when it 
 has to be exported for any especial purpose. But if there 
 should be no demand either to rectify the exchange or to 
 supply (for example) a paper-using country with a required 
 metal, the Silver would be taken to the Bank of England, 
 and the directors, acting on the altered law, woukl issue 
 notes against it. Those notes would fall into the Reserve 
 of the Bank, and their sterling amount would be at the 
 credit of the bringer, either in his own account in the books 
 of the Bank or in that of his private banker; but as the 
 law of the twofold standard could cause no increase in the 
 quantities of the two metals, there could be no jiermanent 
 increase in the Reserve ; nor do I see any reason why 
 Silver should flow to this country rather than Gold. 
 Certainly, Gold alone would not come to the Bank, but 
 
 Mr. II. II. Gibhs. 
 
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 I cannot see how cajn-ioc or interest will lead men to send 
 Silver to it in preference. The debtor country, Avhose usual 
 money is Silver, will pay its debts in Silver; and the 
 debtor country, whose usual money is Gold, will send Gold. 
 England is the monetary centre of the Avorld, not because 
 she uses Gold and not Silver, but because she is the centre 
 of capital and trade. All the Gold and all the Silver of 
 the w^orld comes here now, except that which is retained 
 for use in the country of its production. What more could 
 happen if both Gold and Silver were accepted by us as 
 money ? Some imagine that all the Silver would come to 
 the Bank of England, either instead of all the Gold or as 
 well as all the Gold ; and that in the latter case our issue 
 of notes would rise to a point hitherto unknown. But I 
 see no ground for supposing that w^e should issue one note 
 more than we now do. The same balances would come, 
 though sometimes in a different form ; and whereas now 
 shipment after shipment of Gold passes through England 
 without entering into the Bank Reserve (when the state of 
 the exchanges demands that it should go abroad), so it 
 would be in the case of the Silver also. 
 
 But England, it is said, being a creditor country, would 
 always be paid in the cheaper metal. This is to beg the 
 question that there would or could be cheapness or dearness 
 between the two parts of an accepted standard of value. 
 Gold and Silver being jointly the measure of cheapness and 
 dearness of other commodities could not have the same 
 relation to one another that either one of them bears to any 
 other commodity not so intimately connected with it. 
 
 The result would really be, I think, that the Bank 
 Avould always hold both Silver and Gold bullion, as is 
 already to a limited extent within its powers under the Act 
 of 1844, and that the amounts of the two metals so held 
 would be always varying, not by reason of any imaginary 
 cheapness or dearness of either metal, but according to the 
 varying condition of the balance of trade of the Silver- 
 
 E 2 
 
5-2 
 
 using or Gold-using countries respectively in relation to 
 England. 
 
 The Silver received by tlie Bank would for the most 
 part remain in the vaults, but some of it would be sent to 
 the Mint to be coined into standard money, call them double 
 florins or dollars, or what you will, in case it should be 
 necessary to pay out any quantity of the new coin to the 
 public ; but, as I have said above, no great amount of it 
 would be likely to go into active circulation. 
 
 The real difference that would result from a bimetallic 
 law would be in international payments — in shipments of 
 bullion to rectify the balance of trade between ourselves 
 and other countries. The Bank of England would, as I 
 have already said, hold Silver as well as Gold ; and such 
 shij^ments would be made in either metal at the option of 
 the payer; but if made in coined metal, they would be 
 made, as now, by weight and not by tale, so that the labour 
 of counting will not enter into the question. 
 
 Some nations will have as they now have a preference 
 for Gold for use in the daily transactions of life, but that 
 they should therefore desire its employment in their inter- 
 national transactions is I think a chimera. No merchant 
 will, as it has been suggested, stipulate that the Bills of 
 Exchange which he may buy to be drawn on a bimetallic 
 country shall be payable in Gold. Why should he do so ? 
 Are Bills on England now paid by transfer of metal from 
 hand to hand ? Is it really supposed that the effect of the 
 establishment of the Double Standard in this country would 
 be that a Bill for £1000 would be met by handing to the 
 payee a sack of 1000 sovereigns, or five sacks of 1000 
 dollars each ? When there really did exist an appreciable 
 difference between the value of the two metals, and when it 
 was therefore really of inqiortance which of the two the 
 payee received, is there any record of a bill being drawn on 
 bimetallic Paris with such a stipulation on the face of it ? 
 Doubtless there is none, 
 
 Mr. II. II. Gibhs. 
 
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 V. ** A twofold standard once established, any great 
 '' influx of Silver from the mines would dangerously disturb 
 " prices." 
 
 It is unquestionable that if England had a Silver as well 
 as a Gold standard, the working of new mines of Silver 
 and the production of an additional quantity of that metal, 
 would have the result of enhancing prices ; and if the 
 quantity was very large and its production very sudden, 
 the consequences might be severely felt. 
 
 But what if she adheres to her single standard, and the 
 additional production be of Gold instead of Silver ? That 
 which has been {e,g, 1851 and onwards) may be again; 
 and there can be no possible ground for saying that Silver 
 will be found, and Gold will not. But if Gold be found 
 again in extraordinary quantities, and the Double Standard 
 be not adopted, then the flood would pour over half the world 
 — the Gold-using half — and the immediate effect which the 
 objector justly fears would be twice as great as if the flood 
 w^ere spread over the whole world, and affected equally the 
 whole mass of currency ; and this last would certainly be 
 its operation if the Gold and Silver composing the mass 
 were joined together in a bimetallic union. 
 
 What is the case at this moment? A flood of Silver 
 was not long since let loose upon us, and that a double one, 
 from the increased yield of the mines, and from the 
 demonetization of Silver by Germany : Silver has been 
 necessarily depreciated, and prices enhanced throughout all 
 the Silver-using nations, and not only has the effect been 
 twice as great because the area over which it extends is 
 but half the commercial world, but it reacts also on the 
 Gold-using nations. 
 
 I conclude, therefore, that this fifth objection is quite 
 irrelevant to the question of a Double Standard ; the par- 
 ticular danger which it suggests, and the consequent 
 disturbance of the relations of creditor and debtor beinir at 
 
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 least as great under the present law as it could be under a 
 bimetallic system of currency. 
 
 VI. " But supposing the bimetallic system to be 
 " established on the basis of a ratio of 15 J while the real 
 " existing proportion is perhaps 18, that difference will 
 " give such a stimulus to the working of Silver mines, that 
 ^' the dreaded flood of Silver would really come upon us ; 
 " and even if not, will of itself be an enlargement of the 
 '^ Silver currency to the extent of about 15 per cent., and 
 " consequently a depreciation of the whole mass of cur- 
 " rency by about 7 per cent." 
 
 To the latter part of this objection I reply that I think 
 I have already shown on p. 43 that the evil effect even on 
 such a calculation would be more nominal than real, and 
 that to take 18 or any such ratio as a basis for the calcu- 
 lation is untrue and misleading. As to the former part of 
 the objection, I say that if there are indeed any mines 
 which have been abandoned because of the fall of Silver 
 from OS. an ounce to 45. Sd. or thereabouts, then a return 
 to the price of 5s. might bring them again into bearing and 
 so increase production ; but I believe there is no evidence 
 of any such abandonment, a much less price tlian 4.v. 3^. 
 being sufficient to make the working of all but })erhaps a 
 very insignificant number of workable mines remunerative. 
 
 VII. " It would be necessary to re-coin all our Silver 
 " token-coinage." 
 
 This objection must arise from the sup})osition that 
 standard florins, shillings, and sixpences would be coined, 
 which would be undistinguishable from the token-coinage. 
 But in fact no Silver standard money would be coined 
 except double florins (dollars), and there is no more reason 
 why they should not circulate concurrently with the Silver 
 tokens, than there is why the c^visting French Silver tokens 
 
 Mr. II. II. Gibbs. 
 
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 should not circulate in the same country with five-franc 
 pieces. They would bear the same sort of relation to the 
 subsidiary coinap^e as that shown in the following table 
 to be l)orne by the five-franc piece to the French token- 
 Value ill fraucs. 
 5-franc piece 900 mllliemcs {^-^) fine o' 
 
 2 „ „ 835 „ 1 rl-8o,i 
 
 „ „ „ ^ Tokens ■{ '92]^ 
 
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 I Tokens | •<^>'?i 
 
 I 
 
 A shilling would still stand for the 20th part of a pound, 
 whether that pound was 113-0016 grains of pure Gold, or 
 1751*5247 grains of pure Silver. If indeed Silver should 
 be more widely demonetized it may possibly become neces- 
 sary for Gold-using nations to call in and re-coin their silver 
 tokens, because the nominal value of the shilling, &c., 
 would be so far in excess of the real that an irresistible 
 temptation would be held out to the maker of illicit silver 
 coin. The rehabilitation of silver, by the adoption of the 
 Doid)le Standard or otherwise, would make such illicit 
 coinage impossible. 
 
 VIII. " Our sixty years of prosperity." 
 
 This is the old fallacy of JVon causa jiro causa. The 
 objector sets before himself and us the varied facts of a 
 prosperity which has developed itself in a hundred diiferent 
 ways since 1819, and passes per saltum to the conclusion 
 that that prosperity has been caused by, or has had for one 
 of its causes, the adoption of a single metal as our 
 standard of value, but attempts no explanation of the 
 mode in which so limited a cause has had so great an 
 effect — an effect which, so far as it depends at all upon the 
 character of the money of the realm, may be more justly 
 attributed to our maintenance of an uncorrupted coinage 
 of certain weight and fineness, and such, as I contend, we 
 
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 should have maintained, whether the metal of Avhich it was 
 composed were of Gold or Silver or of Gold and Silver. 
 
 An array of facts without cohesion — of premisses with 
 no logical relation to the conclusion — is a frequent resource 
 of the soi-disant practical man who would oppose Avhat 
 conflicts with his prejudices. 
 
 But the "practical" man is not unfrequently the 
 ignorant man under another name, and is scarcely less 
 dangerous than the theorist who, having no practical know- 
 ledge, constructs his facts for himself and deduces from 
 them his own preconceived conclusions. 
 
 The true practical man is he who, resting on his own 
 experience and knowledge, is able to arrange his facts in 
 logical sequence and construct a theory on which such 
 facts can be shown to lead inevitably to a certain con- 
 clusion. 
 
 Secondly, I must add that those who use this argument 
 seem to take no account of change of circumstances. 
 England has prospered for about sixty years, they say, i,e, 
 since 1816. But what of the last four years or thereabouts? 
 England suffered nothing from her single Gold standard, 
 notwithstanding her relations with other countries where a 
 single Silver standard prevailed, so long as France kept 
 open a door of escape ; but now that the aid of France is 
 no longer afforded to us, our prosperity has not been so 
 exemplary as to provide a very helpful argument to the 
 advocates of the theory that our well-being has been owing 
 to the fact that our standard money was of one metal 
 alone. 
 
 I have already mentioned Lord Liverpool (p. 11). His 
 Treatise on the Coins of the Realm is the foundation of 
 our present system of money, and his great authority, and 
 that of the eminent men whom he quotes, must, if the 
 altered circumstances of the world be left out of the 
 account, be a stumbling-block at the feet of those who dare 
 to ask for an examination of the question, Avhether the 
 
 Mr. II. IL Gibhs. 
 
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 system of the Double Standard is not more suitable to those 
 altered circumstances. 
 
 No one at the present day would venture or desire to 
 controvert the principles which he so lucidly states. Least 
 of all would I do so. He proved to the satisfaction of the 
 Government of his day — 
 
 I. That coins which were to be the measure of property 
 should be, if possible, of one metal only, 
 
 II. That that metal should be Gold. 
 
 III. That the other coins should be as they now are, 
 tokens ; or, as we may call them, notes, repre- 
 senting parts of a sovereign, and made of metal 
 instead of paper. 
 
 In support of the first proposition he adduces the 
 authority of Sir WilHam Petty, Mr. Locke, and Mr. Harris; 
 but as he sets aside the opinion of Mr. Locke that Silver 
 should be that one metal, on the ground that circumstances 
 had so much altered that this opinion was no longer tenable, 
 and thinks that Locke, had he lived then, would have been 
 of that mind also, so I venture to think it not impossible 
 that, if Lord Liverpool and the great men whom he quotes 
 had lived in this age, they might have recognised that his 
 first proposition, excellent in theory, might carry with it in 
 practice, under the changed conditions of the mercantile 
 world, inconveniences which would demand a remedy ; and 
 I think it can be shown that the main reasons which he 
 adduced in support of it, and which were applicable to 
 England as a single nation, are no less applicable, in the 
 more developed condition of commerce, to the whole com- 
 mercial world. 
 
 The evil which presented itself to his mind was one 
 that does not and cannot now exist in England, viz. : that 
 the currency was composed of English coins of uncertain 
 
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 weight and fineness, and included also some few coins, no 
 less irregular in quality, of foreign coinage, and without 
 any safeguard : so that men when they received this cur- 
 rent coin in their daily transactions could not know for 
 certain what it was they did receive. 
 
 There is, I say, no fear of this in England, but the 
 uncertainty still exists in England's transactions with 
 foreign nations, and even with her own dependencies, where 
 a different kind of money is current. Lord Liverpool's 
 care was to remedy the mischief as it then manifested 
 itself, and to provide that the same monetary system should 
 prevail through the length and breadth of this land ; but 
 the means of communication have been so much improved, 
 that America is as near London as Scotland was in his 
 time, and the several nations have been drawn more nearly 
 together since those days. Then the policy of all nations 
 was to look wholly to themselves for the promotion of their 
 own exclusive interests, whereas now the promotion of the 
 common good is better seen to be the promotion of in 
 dividual good. If it was then desirable that the measure 
 of value for England should be one, and one only, so that 
 all men who traded with one another should know exactly 
 what it was they were to receive for their wares, so is it 
 also now desirable that the measure of value should be one 
 for the nations forming the whole world of commerce, who, 
 far more than in Lord Liverpool's time, may be said to be 
 one community. But unity of money, in the sense of 
 causing a single metal to suffice for all, has been shown to 
 be an impossibility, both by reason of the preference of 
 nations for one or other of the metals now used, and of the 
 insufficiency of either one alone to provide all at once for 
 the needs of all. Is it not, then, our best resource to 
 approximate as nearly as i)ossi])le to unity by causing the 
 two metals, under prescribed regulations, to ])erform to 
 gether the service of a metallic standard for the world? 
 The world is already bimetaUic ; but it is an unregulated 
 
 Mr. //. //. Gibbs, 
 
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 and hai)hazard bimetallism which prevails among us ; and 
 I must believe that a due regulation of it is both possible 
 and desirable. 
 
 I have shown that the "traffic in coins," which is the 
 chief inconvenience attaching, in Lord Liverpool's opinion, 
 to a bimetallic measure of property, would be, under such 
 regulation, impossible. 
 
 It is curious that the account which he gives of the bad 
 condition of the currency in some other countries, and of 
 the remedy which had been there applied, should afford one 
 of the most striking instances of the great difference betAveen 
 our times and his. 
 
 His words are very remarkable. He says : — " There is 
 " no circumstance that more clearly proves and illustrates 
 " the truth of this principle, ' That coins which are to be 
 " ' the principal measure of property can be made of one 
 " " metal only,' than the practice which (he says) has long 
 " prevailed in several commercial states and countries on 
 " the continent, of making foreign bills of exchange, and 
 '* sometimes other bills, exceeding a certain amount, payable 
 " in what is usually called Bank-Money," that is to say, 
 " recepisses, receipts, or notes, in return for the Gold or 
 " Silver bullion . . . placed by individuals in their 
 " custody," which receipts "are regulated by, and therefore 
 " represent some one of the national coins current in each 
 " of those states, exactly according to the standard of their 
 "' respective mints,"* so that they have and retain an 
 undisputed value, and have come to be the fixed standard 
 or measure according to which great jDayments are made. 
 
 He goes on to say that in Great Britain no such 
 establishment has ever existed — that one such bank would 
 not suffice, and that the establishment of many would be 
 inconvenient — that Great Britain scarcely needs such a 
 system, inasmuch as unauthorised foreign coins rarely enter 
 
 * Treatise on the Coins of the lieahn. Reprint, 1880, pp. 136, 137. 
 
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 it to serve as currency, and tlie coins of the realm are 
 therefore necessarily the instruments of commerce, and the 
 only legal tender whether to natives or foreigners ; " and 
 " from thence," he says, " results the necessity in this 
 " country of having coins made of one metal only, which 
 " should serve as an invariable measure, . ." &c. 
 
 He appends a note saying that it is unnecessary to advert 
 to the Acts making Bank of England notes temporarily 
 legal tender during suspension of cash payments, " as that 
 " is not part of our recognised monetary system." 
 
 It is hardly necessary for me to point out how entirely 
 all this has changed. 
 
 The exact system to which Lord Liverpool refers as 
 non-existent, as insufficient for our needs, and unnecessary 
 for the particular purpose, is, and has long been, established 
 in England. 
 
 The notes of the Bank of England are issued practically 
 as receipts for bullion ; they are legal tender, like the 
 recepisses to which he refers, and serve to make, as he says 
 of the others, all " great mercantile payments," except where 
 the use of the notes is again economised by the employment 
 of cheques and other expedients of trade. 
 
 Lord Liverpool's argument seems to be that, in order 
 to remedy the inconvenience of diversity of coins and 
 uncertainty of weight and fineness, other nations had used 
 a system of vouchers representing but one metal and one 
 coiu, which vouchers served for all transactions of moment, 
 the debased coinage serving for small transactions of daily 
 life ; that, as in England wc could not have such a system 
 of vouchers, we could not safely permit a coinage of 
 uncertain weight and fineness. 
 
 But we now have such a system, and may contend that 
 the diversity of metal under a true bimetallic system is not 
 at all open to the condemnation which he pronounces 
 against the bimetallic coinage of his time. And, as in this 
 one particular of a National B^nk^ I Iiave shown that what 
 
 Mr. H. II. Gibbs. 
 
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 he deemed impossible is actually existent, so also, I think 
 I have shown cause for belicviiio* that the other consider- 
 ations which I have mentioned might have been of suffi- 
 cient weight to have led him to allow that circumstances 
 might occur, and have now occurred, which should make 
 it necessary for the well-being of English commerce, that, 
 theoretically excellent as his system is, and practically 
 irreproachable when applied to the internal commerce of a 
 nation, we should not now" treat the question of departing 
 from it as one to be dismissed without careful consider- 
 ation. 
 
 IX. In the foregoing paper I have endeavoured to 
 answer the IXth objection. I have endeavoured to show 
 that there is no impracticability in the adoption of a 
 Double Standard, that whatever suits other nations must 
 now of necessity suit the whole family of nations, and I 
 would fain hope that I have presented it in a form which 
 may prove not only acceptable to England, but a remedy 
 for some grievous and pressing evils. 
 
 Again, in conclusion, I appeal to the wisdom and fore- 
 thought of all men interested in the commerce of England ; 
 I lu'ge every one who has at heart the prosperity of that 
 commerce, not to close their eyes to the dangers of the 
 immediate future, but to consider seriously what will be 
 the result of the action which may in this very year be 
 taken by foreign nations. 
 
 Two courses only are open to those nations: for it is 
 impossible that they can remain as they are. They may 
 adopt the Double Standard without the concurrence of 
 England, or they may be driven to follow the example of 
 Germany and adopt a Gold standard. 
 
 They may take the former course, though it will 
 necessarily be very much against the grain that they 
 should do what we tell them is bad for themselves and for 
 
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 our advantage. That it would be satisfactory to us and 
 sufficient for us that they should do it is certain. But 
 what are the chances of its being carried out ? If they do 
 take such a course they will be exposed, as all admit, to 
 see their Gold leave them and flow into our cofters. Gold 
 will not leave a bimetallic union in Avhich England is 
 included to flow into the coffers of a nation whose com- 
 merce is insignificant ; but it will leave a bimetallic union 
 of which England does not form a part, and, when circum- 
 stances lead it, flow into England, which is the commercial 
 centre of the world. 
 
 It would not indeed do them any great harm, for no 
 more Gold could come to and remain in England than 
 what is needed for the full circulation of the country, and 
 that we already have ; but the apparent attraction of Gold 
 hitherwards, and the feeling that England was not doing 
 her part in the common work, might become intolerable to 
 the bimetallic nations, and the present agitation might 
 begin again, with the certain result of their recourse to the 
 second alternative. 
 
 We have all seen what has been the consequence of the 
 demonetization of Silver by Germany and the consequent 
 absorption of Gold by that nation, and that prices as 
 measured in Gold have fallen considerably wherever other 
 circumstances have not concurred to maintain them. What 
 will be the case if France and the Latin Union and the 
 United States should be driven to do the same ? The con- 
 sequent and sudden fall in prices will be not fourfold but 
 fortyfold, and the i)eril to our commerce will be incalculable. 
 
 The only real and permanent remedy would then be our 
 adhesion to the principle of the Double Standard as set 
 forth in these pages. 
 
 I know that my arguments rest on the hypothesis of 
 general agreement, and the theory that such agreement 
 would completely alter the conditions under which the 
 Double Standard has not been found to work well. 
 
 Mr. IT. 11. Gibbs. 
 
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 Before my readers deny the possibility of my hypothesis, 
 and in liaste reject my theory, let me ask them to read a 
 quotation from the late Mr. Henry Drummond's Elementary 
 Propositions on the Carrencij* 
 
 " Tlie proportion of the magnitudes of the heavenly 
 " bodies to each other rests purely upon hypothesis. The 
 " annual and diurnal revolution of the earth, directly 
 *' opposed to the daily sensations and eyes of the practical 
 " ploughboy, are founded on hypothesis. So absurd, in- 
 '•' deed, did this revolution appear to all sober practical men 
 " when it was first demonstrated, that Copernicus dared 
 " not mention it for many years : the practical men in Italy 
 " constrained the Pope reluctantly to put Galileo in prison, 
 " and made him learn penitential psalms by heart to purge 
 "away his philosophy; and when Jacquier and Le Seuri 
 " published at Kome, so late as 1 742, the theories of that 
 " speculative heretic, Sir Isaac Newton, upon the same 
 " subject, they wisely inserted in a preface, that they did 
 " not presume to believe that which they had proved to be 
 " true, unless that practical man, the Pope, should happen 
 " to be of the same oj)inion." 
 
 * Sj)ecches in Parliament. Vol. ii. p. 11. 
 
GOLD IN THE EAST.* 
 
 From the Economist, August 2, 1879. 
 
 The following letter is from a valued correspondent of 
 considerable experience in the subject on which he writes, 
 which we have pleasure in publishing : — 
 
 TO THE EDITOR. 
 
 Sir, — I have read Mr. DanielFs pamphlet, and I think 
 facts could be adduced to show that the thing which he 
 proposes is impossible. 
 
 Colonel Smith proposes to make a gold standard, and to 
 declare at once that the thing which is written as 10 rupees 
 shall mean a golden sovereign. 
 
 By the method which he suggested for carrying out 
 this operation, it is admitted that it could be done if the 
 Government could succeed in keeping silver coinage from 
 being smuggled into the country. 
 
 Colonel Smith, as a good official, thought of two things, 
 and of two things only — the Government Budget and his 
 
 * Gold in the East : Being observations on a practical method of 
 establishing a gold currency in India, and its influence on the trade and 
 finance of that country. By Clarmont J. Daniell, Bengal Civil Service. 
 Strahan & Co., Limited, 34, Paternoster Row, London. Price 1*. 
 
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 T^salary, or that of his fellow-workers and successors. 
 Of the Indian cultivator and people he thou^^ht nothing. 
 
 His plan, as developed, is shortly disposed of by two 
 answers — one by Baron Bramwell, at the Political Economy 
 Club— 
 
 " If you can raise the rupee from Is. Id. to 26*. by a 
 " stroke of the pen, why not raise it to 2^. Otd. ? " 
 
 The other by Mr. Daniell himself, at the end of page 15, 
 and beginning of page 16. 
 
 Mr. Daniell proposes that the customs and sums for 
 revenue exceeding x should all be paid in gold. 
 
 Upon the suggestion arising that he is bound to state 
 where the gold is to come from, he boldly faces it by saying 
 that there is a very large stock of gold in India, and that, 
 once make gold a legal tender, that hidden stock will come 
 out, and be brought into general circulation. 
 
 If this large stock exists at all, or if it exists in the 
 hands of any people ready to make use of it, it is very 
 strange that use is not made of it now. If it could be 
 melted into bars, and sold to the Government, who want 
 it, why does it not now come into market? It cannot 
 matter to a man who has got gold to dispose of whether 
 its future destination is a legal tender sovereign or an 
 unlegal tender gold mohur, if he can get his price for it in 
 legal tender silver, which is all he wants. 
 
 I doubt the existence of any such disposable stock. 
 
 You might just as well have made a calculation of the 
 gold in the green vaults at Dresden, or in the jewel boxes 
 of the Sovereigns of Bavaria or Hanover, when you under- 
 took to introduce a gold coinage in Germany. 
 
 In fact, Mr. Daniell sees that the real objection to 
 his scheme is that the stock of gold for the use of the 
 countries using a gold standard is already too small, and 
 that to add India to those countries would inevitably 
 tend to augment the gold famine, if I may use the ex- 
 pression. To meet that objection he has evolved from his 
 
 Mr. H, R, GrenfelL 
 
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 inner consciousness the power of getting at tliis supposed 
 stock in India. 
 
 Mr. Lowe, in his article in the Fortnujhtly, says : " If 
 " I am asked where the gold is to come from, I frankly 
 " state I do not know." 
 
 Mr. Daniell, however, does know, and propounds his 
 undeveloped and unused stock existing in India. 
 
 This stock is wholly hypothetical. What we have got 
 before us as an example is that Germany undertook to 
 change its standard from silver to gold. 
 
 To enable it to perform that operation it took from 
 France all the gold it could get. And yet, having this 
 enormous sum to perform the operation, it has still lost 
 enormously in carrying it out. 
 
 But that is not all. 
 
 The demand for gold for Germany has upset all the 
 gold markets of the world, and all the silver markets. 
 
 The theory that the discoveries in America have had 
 anything to do with the dislocation in the prices of the 
 precious metals is now almost universally rejected. 
 
 If you were to add to those countries which have either 
 changed their standard, or ceased to coin silver ad libitum^ 
 the xVnglo-Indian Empire, gold would rise still higher, and 
 silver fall still more. 
 
 The Indian producers would share in the fall of prices 
 all over the world, from which they have been protected. 
 They would have to buy the tool, money, for 2^. + X., 
 which they now get for I5. Id. 
 
 Mr. Daniell says, and says rightly, that " Gold is the 
 " measure of value of the Indian export trade." That is, it 
 is the measure of value in the market of the world, i.e., 
 England. 
 
 The value of the lowest necessaries of life, such 
 as wheat, &c., is ultimately determined by the cost 
 of production ; and in so far as the cost of production 
 in India is affected by the value there of the lowest 
 
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 necessaries + wages + rent, which are reckoned in silver, 
 the Indian producer is able to make a profit where a gold 
 currency producer can not. 
 
 It matters not to a producer whether his profit comes 
 by a high scale or a low purchase for one transaction, but 
 the profit is more likely to continue from the latter than 
 the former. 
 
 If wheat has fallen in the market of the world from 120 
 to 100, it has equally fallen to the Indian exporting culti- 
 vator ; but then, with his 100, he procures 120 in that 
 currency with which he pays his wages, his rent, and any 
 debts written in anyone's books against him. 
 
 I remain, &c. 
 
 (H. K. GKENFELL.) 
 
 From the Ecanomist, August 9, 1879. 
 
 TO THE EDITOR. 
 
 Sir, — I do not wish to draw you into a discussion on 
 the subject of "Gold in the East"; but as the letter you 
 pu})lishcd on the 2nd inst. is calculated to warn readers off 
 the book, and my object in publishing it is that its contents 
 should be widely known and generally understood, will 
 you allow me space in the Economist for the following 
 remarks ? The " impossibility " of introducing gold into 
 the Indian currency appears to " L." to depend on the fact 
 that there is no large stock of gold in India. This stock of 
 gold in India he describes as " wholly hypothetical." So 
 well is its existence ascertained, that *' L." might with as 
 much reason describe the stock of bullion and coins in the 
 vaults of the Bank of England as " wholly hypothetical." 
 The following extract from "L.'s" letter contains a very 
 
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 extraordinary statement, as coming from a " correspondent 
 " of considerable experience '' in currency matters : — " It 
 " cannot matter to a man who has got gold to dispose of 
 " whether its future destination is a legal tender sovereign 
 " or an unleijal tender o:old mohur." There is in the writer's 
 opinion no difference, for purposes of trade, betAveen legal 
 tender coin and bullion. Were he to stand behind the 
 counter of the Bank of England, and offer to merchants 
 drawing large supplies of gold the gold bars which pass 
 through the Bank on their way to the Mint, instead of 
 sovereigns, and tell them at the same time that the coinage 
 of gold had been stopped, and that no bank notes, or gold in 
 the form of coin, would in future be prociu-able, he would 
 soon, I think, have reason to alter his opinion. " L.'s " 
 argument amounts to this ; and he seems to think that gold 
 bullion is as efficient in the East for purchases as gold coin 
 in the West. 
 
 I am described as proposing that the Anglo-Indian 
 Empire should cease to coin silver " ad lihitumP Had " L." 
 examined my proposals with ordinary care, he would have 
 found that I expressly insist on the necessity of keeping the 
 Indian mints open for the coinage of any amount of silver 
 brought to them ; and that my plan for working a bimetallic 
 currency on the principle of maintaining the intrinsic ratio 
 of value between the gold and silver coins in the currency 
 unaltered could not be carried on for a week, if the Govern- 
 ment of India ceased to coin silver " ad libitum^ I forbear 
 to notice other inaccuracies in " L.'s " letter, or to follow 
 him into the discussion which the conclusion of his letter 
 raises, or to comment on the singular confusion of terms in 
 his last paragraph, as your space is limited. I hope that I 
 have said enough to draw attention to the subject, the 
 importance of which is sufficiently great to deserve more 
 considerate treatment than it meets with from " L." 
 I remain, Sm, your obedient servant, 
 
 CLAEMOXT DANIELL, 
 
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 From tlie Economist, August 23, 1879. 
 
 TO THE EDITOR. 
 
 Sir, — Mr. Daniell's letter in the Economist of the 
 9thj in answer to some portion of my letter of the 2nd, calls 
 for a short rejoinder. 
 
 In order to compress what I have to say into the 
 shortest space I use the baldest terms I can find. This 
 must be my excuse for what is called " inconsiderate treat- 
 " ment." 
 
 Mr. Daniell's first quotation is incomplete. Had he 
 inserted the close of the sentence he would have seen that 
 the meaning he gave it could not have been intended 
 by me. 
 
 I expressed no " opinion " " as to the difference, for 
 " purposes of trade, between legal tender coin and bullion." 
 
 Allow me to use "flour" instead of gold, and rc-state 
 the proposition. 
 
 " The miller who has flour to sell does not care whether 
 *' the baker makes cakes or puddings with it, provided he 
 " gets his money for it." 
 
 What I wished to show was that Mr. Daniell's assertion 
 that a stock of gold exists in India is only tantamount to 
 an assertion that gold exists in the bowels of the earth. 
 
 At page 36 of his pamphlet he recognises this analogy. 
 
 If it does exist in India it is either for sale or it 
 is not. 
 
 If it be for sale, the willingness to part with it must 
 depend on the price, not on whether it is destined for coin 
 or bars. 
 
 If he is right in supposing that making gold legal 
 tender would bring this gold to market, it could only be 
 because a higher price would be offered for it than can now 
 be got. 
 
 Mr. H, R, Grenfell, 
 
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 But it is the essence of my case that to make gohl a 
 legal tender in India would enhance the value of gold all 
 over the world, and increase the dislocation in the relative 
 price of the precious metals which has assisted in dis- 
 arranging the commerce of the world. 
 
 His next point is, that I described him as proposing 
 that the Indian mints should cease to coin silver ad libitum. 
 
 In this I have followed the best known currency autho- 
 rities, whose doctrine it is that the amount of coin current 
 cannot be increased ad lihitiun, and that if, for State 
 purposes, you add to the existing currency of one metal 
 another currency of another metal, the one will displace the 
 other, not add to the total volume. 
 
 Persons bring silver to be coined because they want the 
 coins. Under Mr. Daniell's proposition, gold, in certain 
 cases, would be brought instead, and silver would thereby 
 to that extent cease to be brought to be coined. 
 
 In substance, I adhere to what I stated. At page 19, 
 in one sentence, he seems to recognise the truth of the 
 statement himself. But in the following sentence he 
 appears to dispute it. 
 
 My last paragraph appears to him confused. It refers 
 to the large question of whether any one wins by the 
 present state of exchange between England and India. 
 
 It was suggested by his own criticism on Colonel 
 Smith's plan, which appears to me to be well founded. 
 
 I will endeavour to make my meaning clear. 
 
 The relative prices of the precious metals being in 
 what Colonel Smith calls their normal state, a German 
 exporter of wheat and an Indian exporter of wheat each 
 pay 100 in its production, the one in gold, the other in 
 silver, and each receives, as j)rice for it, 120, or 20 per cent, 
 profit. 
 
 The next year the price of wheat falls from 120 to 100 
 in gold, and the relative prices of gold and silver become 
 abnormal, as at present. 
 
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 The German, having to pay in gold, loses all his profit. 
 
 The Indian receives 100 in gold, but procures with it 
 120 in that currency, with which he paid his costs of 
 production. 
 
 His 20 per cent, profit remains. 
 
 I called this, in my first letter, being protected from the 
 fall in prices all over the world. 
 
 I remain, yours faithfully, 
 L. 
 (H. R. GRENFELL.) 
 
 From the Economist, August 30, 1879. 
 
 TO THE EDITOR. 
 
 Sir, — I will ask you for a little space in the Economist 
 to reply finally to " L.'s " remarks of August 23rd on my 
 scheme for introducing gold into the Indian currency, since, 
 apart from my own opinions being criticised, which is a 
 matter of little consequence, the importance of the subject 
 requires that it should not be argued on * wrong issues. 
 " L." complains that on August 9th I quoted incompletely 
 the words he used on August 2nd. This I did for the sake 
 of brevity. " L.'s " contention Avas, that it is immaterial for 
 a man who sought to turn his gold into coin whether he 
 succeeded in doing so or not, provided he got silver coin in 
 its place. The argmnent on "Gold in the East" is directed 
 to prove that gold coin is required in India, and my answer 
 of August 9th illustrated the position that the holders of 
 gold are placed in, who, having gold, are unable to coin it, 
 but can only use it in a crude fonn. " L.," on the 23rd, 
 replies with the metaphor of tlie miller, as follows : — " The 
 " miller who has fiour to sell docs not care whether the baker 
 " makes cakes or puddings with it, provided he gets his 
 
 Mr, C, DnvicU, 
 
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 " money for it." True, but the miller would care very much 
 if he found that his flour could be made into neither cakes 
 nor puddings ; and the Indian owner of gold is in much the 
 same case who cannot turn it into coin. The question is 
 one of the use of gold in currency, not of the use of gold in 
 merchandise. It is, whether gold is of more use for ciu'rency 
 in the form of legal tender coins, or non-legal tender bars ; 
 not whether gold as coin will or will not buy more silver 
 than in the form of bars. "L.," on August 23rd5 modifies 
 his opinion that the stock of gold which I described as 
 existing in India is " wholly hypothetical." It is probably 
 more than 150 millions sterling in amount. "L." says, "if 
 " it is there it is either for sale or it is not." Anyone who 
 examines the price lists of the Presidency ports, will find 
 that gold is offered for sale every day in the year in India. 
 " L." says that, " to make gold legal tender Avould not 
 " bring it into the market unless a higher price were offered 
 " for it than now." This term, price, includes the advantage 
 a trader would derive from trading on a gold rather than a 
 silver basis. To be brief, it is the inability to obtain such 
 an advantage which underlies the complaints that the 
 Chambers of Commerce so justly make to the Indian 
 Government of the effect which the state of the currency 
 has on their trade. " L.'s " next point, that to make gold 
 legal tender in India would enhance its value, and increase 
 the confusion in trade now arising from the use of silver, I 
 must, with much regret, pass over, as it is impossible to 
 argue this part of the case within the limits to which I feel 
 bound to confine this letter. " L." will, I hope, excuse 
 my expressing an opinion that a careful consideration of the 
 whole scheme I propose, in all its bearings, especially in 
 relation to the ability of India to absorb silver and furnish 
 gold, and of that part of it which provides for the invariable 
 currency of silver and gold on equal terms, would, perhaps, 
 convince him that the result he fears will be minimised, or 
 not occur at all, and that a probability exists that in no 
 
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 long time it is gold which might be depreciated, ana nS! 
 silver, under its operation. " L.'s " next remark, that to 
 add to the existing currency of one metal another currency 
 of another metal will lead to the displacement of the former, 
 makes no allowance for the power of expansion which the 
 currency of every country, whose trade is in a healthy 
 condition, possesses. It assumes that the quantity of silver 
 required for coin in India is a fixed quantity, and that the 
 silver which the gold displaces has no further use. The 
 array of facts which prove that neither of these assumptions 
 are true of India is too great, and they are too well known 
 to need repetition here. " L.'s " argument about India 
 being protected from a general fall in prices proceeds on 
 the belief that her silver currency has not lost efficiency 
 from the decline in the value of silver. Kot only must 
 this, as a fact, be accepted with the greatest amount of 
 qualification, but as a theory of practical application to 
 trade I think it was disposed of by Mr. Fawcett asking the 
 late Mr. Bagehot a single question, when he was under 
 examination before the Silver Committee (Question 1,377), 
 and by Mr. Bagehot's answer. This, and the two preceding 
 points in " L.'s " letter, along with other criticisms on my 
 plan, I intend to examine in a short time in another form 
 and place, when I hope to do more justice to the gravity of 
 the silver crisis as it affects India, and to the ability of my 
 critic, than the necessary brevity of this letter permits me 
 to do here. 
 
 1 am, SiiJ, yours, &c., 
 
 CLARMONT DANIELL. 
 
THE CASE AGAINST BIMETALLISM. 
 
 From the Fortnightly Review, August, 1879. 
 
 The fall of silver during the last few years has produced 
 a large crop of that dismal currency literature which has 
 brought almost all writing on currency into disrepute. 
 The distinguishing feature of this literature is the constant 
 assumption that some small defect in a currency which has 
 all the recognised essentials of a good money — a basis in 
 one or other of the precious metals, identity of the standard 
 coins with a certain weight of that metal, and security for 
 free coinage with only a small seignorage, or with no 
 seignorage at all — may be productive of monstrous evils ; 
 or that a small manipulation of the currency, even at the 
 risk of violating one of the essentials, may have some 
 vague and indefinite advantage. It would be useless to 
 enumerate the various schemes, of which the most prominent 
 has perhaps been the proposal, generally known as Colonel 
 Smith's, to raise or restore the rupee coinage of India to 
 a level in value with gold. They are sufficiently answered 
 by the common sense of the monetary world, which de- 
 "mands, in this question, merely that a government should 
 authorise a coinage having the essentials above described, 
 arrange for the coins being legal tender and receivable in 
 taxes, and for the rest leave the matter alone. But there 
 is one theory or system which has to a certain extent 
 commanded more respectful attention than the others — viz., 
 the theory which is known by the name of bimetallism. 
 In its best form this theory is not open to the charge of 
 artificiality, and of being inconsistent with free mintage. 
 
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 t^n^legree that some of the other schemesar^pe^o 
 the charge. The idea is that a State, instead of having 
 the basis of its money in one of the precious metals only, 
 should declare money obligations to be solvable by either 
 of the two metals, silver and gold, in prescribed quantities, 
 still permitting free coinage. The theory, therefore, has 
 gained adherence even from people who have little 
 enough sympathy with the way in which currency writers 
 exaggerate the possible evils of slight derangements in 
 the currency, and look for impossible advantages from 
 currency changes. I wish, then, to put together some 
 observations on this bimetallist question, and account if 
 possible for the dislike of bimetallic theories which is 
 entertained as a rule by those who have carefully studied 
 the English monetary system. Bimetallists are often 
 treated like other currency prophets, as inventing or 
 grossly exaggerating the evils produced by the choice of 
 monometallic systems in preference to theirs, and as aiming 
 at benefits which cannot possibly be derived from any 
 currency change. Is there real cause for this dislike or 
 for the contumeHous treatment which bimetallist advocates, 
 who comprise among their number not a few men of real 
 eminence as economists and statisticians, not infrequently 
 receive ? 
 
 It will be expedient to begin with a short account of 
 the bimetallist arguments. Up to a certain point mono- 
 metallists and bimetallists — at least the more able of the 
 latter — are really agreed. They hold to the common 
 sense doctrine of currency already referred to — that it is 
 not an arbitrary thing to be regulated at will, but that a 
 government fulfils its duty in selecting one or two of the 
 metals as money, receiving all that is brought to them, 
 impressing upon them certain stamps denoting their weight 
 and fineness, and declaring them receivable for taxes, if 
 not legal tender in release of all obligations expressed in 
 money. Where they part company is on the point whether 
 
 Mr. R, Giffcn, 
 
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 a government should have one metal only, or two or more 
 metals for its standard. Monometallists affirm that there 
 should only be one, and even that there can only be one ; 
 bimetallists that there may be two, the law establishing 
 the indifferent employment of certain prescribed quantities 
 of one or the other, and that it is desirable two and not 
 one should be so used. In support of the view, bimetallists 
 maintain that legalising the use of both metals as a standard 
 will procure certain advantages which are not procurable 
 with one metal only. Such a regulation, it is said, would 
 have the effect, first of all, of keeping more money in use 
 than would otherwise be the case. Money would be more 
 abundant than with one metal only, and abundant money 
 is good for trade.* It is no doubt admitted now that unless 
 all governments and communities have the same money 
 regulations, the legalisation of the use of both metals will 
 not have the effect of keeping both in use at one time in 
 a particular State. On the contrary, the debtor will 
 always pay in the metal which it is easiest for him to 
 obtain; a very slight fraction of difference in procuring 
 the prescribed quantity of the one, as compared with 
 the prescribed quantity of the other, will drive the dearer 
 metal out of use. But any inconvenience arising from 
 this alteration, it is said, is amply compensated for by 
 the greater abundance of money generally in which all 
 countries participate.! Another alleged superiority in the 
 
 * See Wolowski's L'Or ct V Argent, pp. 331-2, where M. Wolowski 
 quotes Count Daru's argument for thie famous law of 1803, giving 
 France the system of bimetallic money, which it retained till within 
 the last few years. Daru says : " En reduisant Tor a n'etre qu'une 
 ** marchandise, en diminuerait la masse du numeraire, on generait le 
 " commerce," &c., &c. And this language is still of the essence of the 
 bimetallist argument. 
 
 f This is the modern account of the argument. But so far as I can 
 judge, the authors of the French bimetallist law, as of former bimetallic 
 experiments, really hoped to retain both gold and silver in use in their own 
 country. They thought they had found a ratio from which the metals 
 
use of the two metals as compared with the use of one 
 only is the increased facility of exchange between different 
 countries. The legal ratio of use, it is said, tends in fact 
 to keep the metals nearly at the corresponding relative 
 value, so that exchanges between countries not bimetallic 
 themselves, but some of them having gold and others 
 having silver, become almost as steady, through the help 
 of the bimetallic regulations of other countries, as if only 
 one metal Avere universally in use. This facility would be 
 enhanced by several nations becoming bimetallic, and still 
 more by all nations adopting that system. This is the 
 general theory of bimetallism, and it is supported by 
 practical arguments from present circumstances. The 
 depression of trade of the last few years is by some held to 
 be accounted for by the scarcity of money due to the 
 demonetisation of silver, and greater pressure upon gold ; 
 and by the confusion introduced into the exchanges by 
 France (which has played the role of intermediary between 
 gold and silver countries during the present century) 
 abandoning its bimetallic regulations. By others who do not 
 go so far, the actual evils of the last few years, especially 
 through the derangement of the exchanges, are said to be so 
 great as to require a special remedy such as bimetallism 
 would give. Finally it is held by some ardent enthusiasts 
 in the cause that there is a providence in the matter; that 
 not only have two metals adapted for use as money been pro- 
 vided, but that a certain ratio, viz. 15 J to 1, tends naturally 
 to be established between them. A bimetallic law fixing 
 this ratio of 15 J to 1, merely confirms an ordinance of nature I 
 Such is a fair account, I believe, of the bimetallic argument, 
 and the last point in it, I may observe, is not inserted by 
 way of caricature, but in order not to leave out any prin- 
 cipal argument on which leading bimetallists lay stress. 
 
 would not vary for a long period, and in the original draft of the law a 
 revisal of the ratio was contemplated. See Wolowski, L' Or et V Argent, 
 p. 2U5. 
 
 Mr. R. Giffe7i. 
 
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 What we liave to inquire into, then, are the objections 
 of niononietallists to this argument. Is there any real 
 foundation for the superiority to monometallism alleged? 
 and are there no counter-considerations ? How far is 
 bimetallism even a practicable scheme ? I would begin by 
 saying that the whole onus of proof is on bimetallism. 
 Not only is the opposite system installed, but that system 
 has the merit of simplicity. No one can say that if only 
 one metal had been in existence suitable for use as standard 
 money, the world would have been badly off because there 
 were not two. The controversy is also a comparatively 
 modern one. What governments had to debate before the 
 present century was not any real choice between one or 
 several metals for use as standard money, but how to get 
 a sound metallic currency of any sort. Their difficulties 
 were the temptation to make a profit for themselves at 
 the expense of their subjects by debasing the coin or 
 " raising its denomination " (which comes to the same 
 thing), and the natural difficulty of keeping the bullion 
 contents of a coinage up to the nominal value assigned to it. 
 It is only since 1696 in England, and since the beginning 
 of the present century elsewhere, that governments have 
 learnt the wisdom of resisting the temptation to debase — 
 if even yet the lesson has been perfectly learnt ; and the 
 effectual method of meeting the difficulty caused by wear 
 and tear is of equally recent discovery. The alleged 
 advantages of bimetallism therefore are supplementary only 
 to the primary advantages aimed at by a good currency. 
 A people afflicted with debased coins, whether the debase- 
 ment was due to natural or artificial causes, w^ould plainly 
 be only too glad to get a good metallic currency of any sort. 
 This of itself is almost enough to prove that there is 
 a fundamental exaggeration in the bimetallist argument. 
 Why is there so much importance attached to matters 
 which could not have been thought of when nations were 
 struggling with the real difficulties of coinage ? 
 
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 ^ven wnen these real difficulties existed, it may De 
 remarked, though the social misery and nuisance were 
 intolerable, and there was some hindrance to trade, it was 
 possible for countries to make great advances in material 
 prosperity. Speaking of the seventeenth century, when, 
 as we shall see, the country was afflicted with debased and 
 constantly changing coinage, and when there was besides a 
 long period of civil war and confusion, Lord Liverpool 
 who was above all statesmen alive to the evils of a bad 
 currency, remarks : " It is certain, however, that during 
 " the whole of this period, when our coins were in so great 
 " a state of confusion, the commerce of the kingdom was 
 " progressively improving, and the balance of trade was 
 " almost always in favour of this country."* It seems 
 impossible, therefore, that bimetallic money can be so 
 necessary to the world as is alleged, when countries got on 
 so well as they did Avith money so inferior, that the question 
 between bimetallism and monometallism could not arise, 
 attention being absorbed in more serious matters. 
 
 But let us examine directly what the argument comes 
 to. One of the two points of superiority alleged may, I 
 think, be passed over as hardly counting, or rather as 
 
 counting against those 
 
 who use it as an argument for 
 
 bimetallism. This is the allegation that bimetallism 
 increases the quantity of money in use as compared with 
 the opposite system. It cannot be true that it will have 
 that advantage necessarily, that is if there is any advantage 
 in the matter. Clearly as much gold and silver may be in 
 use as money throughout the world, if some nations have 
 gold and others silver, as if some or all were bimetallic. 
 The quantity of money in use might be diminished by all 
 nations becoming monometallic, and using the same metal ; 
 and were this to be done suddenly, great evils might ensue. 
 I believe evil has ensued from the haste to introduce gold 
 in place of silver in some countries, which prevailed ten 
 
 ♦ Lord Liverpool on the Ouins of t?ie Realm, p. 120. 
 Mr, R. Giffen. 
 
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 or fifteen years n^o under the influence of eager advocates 
 of a universal gold money. But this diminution of the 
 money in use is obviously not a necessary consequence of 
 monometallism. It would be rather the result of an 
 injudicious application of the principle which the nations 
 of the world are not now likely to be guilty of. 
 
 And the argument turns against bimetallists in this 
 way, that by attaching such great importance to keeping 
 money abundant, they ally themselves with the most 
 vicious of currency theorists. It is not true that the 
 quantity of money, apart from the possibly mischievous 
 effects of any sudden change, socially and otherwise, can 
 affect materially the real wealth and welfare of an industrial 
 community. It is a mere truism to say that while it may 
 be useful to the world for other purposes to have gold and 
 silver more easily obtained than they are, yet, so far as 
 their use as money is concerned, they would be equally 
 serviceable if they were only half as abundant. The 
 bimetallist argument is accordingly tainted, and this 
 accounts very much, I believe, for the extreme disgust 
 and dislike of the theory which economists and statesmen 
 have shown. The prophets who prophesy that the world 
 is to be enriched by abundant money are the detestation 
 of men of sense. 
 
 Has not the scarcity and appreciation of gold, it may 
 be rejoined, something to do with the present depression 
 of trade ? To this I would reply that the depression is 
 mainly traceable to many other well-known causes of such 
 phenomena, so that the scarcity of gold can only have 
 been a contributory cause. In any case, moreover, the 
 temporary effects of a change in the supply or demand for 
 a particular kind of money, causing a general change in 
 the level of prices, are not to be confounded with the 
 permanent effects of scarce or abundant money. At the 
 new level of prices established, the scarcity and abundance 
 of money may become what they were before. However 
 
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 much, therefore, the scarcity of gold may have contributed 
 to the recent fall of prices, and through that to the 
 depression of trade, it does not follow that the effect will 
 be continued, or that trade will be permanently contracted. 
 A less number of gold and silver pieces at low prices will 
 serve for the same exchanges as a larger number at higher 
 prices. It may be added that it was never proposed by 
 the great English writers on currency — Locke, Harris, 
 Lord Liverpool — to prevent the fluctuations of one of the 
 precious metals in reference to itself at different periods. 
 If other fluctuations were got rid of, those in the metal 
 itself were not reckoned as of great importance, while 
 they were considered to be inevitable. It may be said, 
 perhaps, that abundant money is of more consequence now 
 than it was a century or two ago, because the effect of any 
 given quantity of money is now multiplied by our system 
 of credit. But I fail to see how the constitution of our 
 system of credit makes any diff'erence adverse to the 
 conclusion of Lord Liverpool and the old authorities. 
 Rather we have now a constant demonstration that moderate 
 changes in the quantity of money in use, unless they are 
 suddenly made, are not material. In consequence of 
 changes in credit alone, the serviceableness of the same 
 quantity of money varies indefinitely in comparatively 
 short periods ; the scale of prices is in constant oscillation ; 
 no conceivable changes in the quantity of money itself 
 could at all have the effects which are constantly being 
 produced by changes in credit alone. 
 
 To come to the other alleged superiority of bimetallism, 
 the facility of exchange, Ave find there is again a good deal 
 of exaggeration. The benefits of great facility of exchange 
 may themselves be readily exaggerated. We may look 
 only how trade has been carried on with inconvertible 
 paper countries, and with enormous fluctuations in exchange. 
 The fluctuations are no doubt an evil, and a serious one, 
 but in a question of the relative advantages of two systems 
 
 Mr. R, Giffen. 
 
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 of money, we must see exactly how great the evil is. 
 Even serious evils may have to be endured, because 
 relatively they are unimportant compared with the great 
 objects proposed in a sound currency. Moreover, the 
 question of exchanges concerns only the foreign trade of 
 the countries affected, that trade being at most a fraction 
 of their whole trade. Whatever injury great fluctuations 
 of exchange may inflict, they can only do so by hindering 
 the development of a part of the whole trade of a 
 country — even in this country perhaps only a sixth or an 
 eighth part of its trade. Naturally, and in the long run 
 too, it results from the nature of gold and silver as money, 
 and the magnitude of the stocks in existence, that exchanges 
 between countries using gold and silver will be steady 
 without bimetallism. There may be rapid fluctuations at 
 particular periods, as there have been lately, and as there 
 were in 1850, when great changes in the supply of particular 
 metals and in the demand for them occur. But such great 
 changes, unless all nations lose their senses, are not likely 
 to be of frequent occurrence, and in ordinary times exchange 
 will be steady. The reason is that as neither gold nor 
 silver is likely to change greatly with reference to com- 
 modities in general, this being the cause of their selection 
 for use as money, they are not likely to change with 
 reference to each other. Accordingly we find that in past 
 times, without bimetallism, exchanges have been steady 
 for long periods together. I would refer especially to the 
 course of exchange between France and England from 
 about 1820 to 1850. During all that period France was 
 practically a silver-using country. Silver being cheaper 
 than the legal rate, and tending to become cheaper still, 
 had expelled gold from circulation, till, in 1848, the Bank 
 of France had hardly any gold left in its till. French 
 bimetallism, therefore, could not have prevented a further 
 fall in silver. " Ten years ago," says M. Leon Faucher, 
 writing in 1852, " every one was frightened at the prospect 
 
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" of the depreciation of silver." But notwithstanding this 
 inoperativeness of bimetallism, the price of silver and rate 
 of exchange between France and England remained almost 
 as steady as they have done since, although bimetallism 
 afterwards came into operation through gold becoming 
 cheaper than the legal ratio fixed, and the bimetallic 
 countries having a great quantity of silver to be exchanged 
 for it. Thus fluctuations in exchange are neither so 
 formidable to trade as they are frequently represented, 
 nor are the exchanges so likely to be unsteady as a rule 
 without bimetallism, as its advocates have been in the 
 fashion of maintaining. 
 
 The fluctuations with bimetallism may also be con- 
 siderable. Bimetallism of some sort was the attempted 
 practice of the world for centuries, but this did not prevent 
 great fluctuations in exchanges or the price of silver. 
 Lord Liverpool, writing in 1805, says — . 
 
 " The price of silver iu dollars has varied iu twenty-two years, 
 '* that is, from the end of the year 1771 to the 31st of December, 
 " 1797, Uttt P®*" cent., and even in the course of one year, that 
 " is the year 1797, no less than 9^ per cent. The variation in the 
 " price of silver bullion appears to have been still greater, by another 
 " account, with which I have been favoured, by the late Mr. Garbett, 
 " an eminent merchant and manufacturer at Birmingham ; it there 
 " appears that the silver purchased by him, as a refiner, with bank 
 " notes, varied, according to his calculation, in the course of ten 
 " years, to 1793, more than 19|^ per cent., and in one year only 
 " more than 13J per cent."* 
 
 Apart from its bearing on the particular point in hand, 
 this quotation may, perhaps, be useful in convincing people 
 that great fluctuations in silver or in exchange with 
 silver-using countries, are not so novel as they have lately 
 been assumed to be. 
 
 What, then, is the increased steadiness of exchange 
 
 ♦ Lord Liverpool on the Coins of the liealni, p. 150. 
 Mr. n. Giffrv. 
 
85 ■ 
 
 which bimetallism can give? And of what advantage 
 will it really be ? The answer to the first question appears 
 to be that, in certain circumstances, in some countries, 
 bimetallic regulations would help to steady the exchanges. 
 When a change in the relative value of the two metals is 
 occuring in the direction of making the less valuable the 
 more valuable, and when the bimetallic country possesses 
 the metal which is becoming appreciated, bimetallism may 
 help to steady the exchanges. The metal becoming cheajier 
 pours into the country to be exchanged for the metal 
 becoming dearer, and so the rise in the latter and fall in 
 the former are arrested. Of this the world had a con- 
 spicuous illustration after the Australian and Californian 
 gold discoveries. Silver, from being cheaper, became 
 dearer than what was fixed by the legal ratio between 
 silver and gold in France ; and as France had much silver 
 to be exchanged for gold, the rise in silver and fall in gold 
 relatively to each other were arrested. Gold was poured 
 into France and exchanged for silver, the process continuing 
 for many years. More lately an opposite process was 
 beginning, silver, as it lately fell, being sent back to France 
 in exchange for gold, when a stop was put to the proceeding 
 by France suspending the free mintage of silver. But it 
 is only in such transition periods that bimetallism can have 
 any effect. Suppose a change, not in the direction of 
 making the cheaper metal dearer than the other, but in 
 the direction of making it cheaper still (the chances of the 
 one event being exactly equal to the chances of the other), 
 bimetallism, it is plain, can have no influence of any sort. 
 It is powerless to arrest the fall, because the bimetallic 
 country has already got the cheaper metal, and has none of 
 the metal which is becoming dearer to exchange. As 
 already mentioned, this was precisely the case in France 
 for many years before 1850. If silver had become abun- 
 dant then as now, as there was at one time, it appears from 
 the above-quoted statement of M. Leon Faucher reason to 
 
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 think it would be, there was no gold in France to be 
 exchanged for it to arrest the fall. It is not true, then, 
 that bimetallism has a general effect in steadying the 
 exchanges. A country which adopts it must expect that it 
 will only operate in that way in certain special circum- 
 stances, and those circumstances may never occur. 
 
 It may be said, perhaps, that if many countries were 
 bimetallic, the steadying effect would be greater. But this 
 is clearly not the case. If all bimetallic countries had the 
 same ratio, and the cheaper metal tended to become still 
 cheaper, they would simply be as one country. The fact 
 of their being many would give them no more power over 
 the exchanges than if they were one country, and their 
 power would be precisely that of monometallic countries. 
 Of course, if all countries were bimetallic, supposing that 
 to be a possible arrangement, exchanges Avould be steadier, 
 just as they would be if all were monometallic upon the 
 same basis. So much may be granted on this head to the 
 bimetallist argument. 
 
 But what would be the advantage of this increased 
 steadiness of exchange ? As we have seen, the exchanges 
 in any case are likely to be fairly steady; great fluctuations, 
 when they do occur, are not so harmful to trade as they are 
 often supposed to be, while foreign trade, after all, is only 
 a fraction of the business of great countries. In any case, 
 unless there is universal bimetallism, bimetallism will only 
 help to steady the exchanges in certain circumstances, and 
 will have no effect in other circumstances which are just as 
 likely to occur. Can the increase of steadiness which 
 bimetallism may give, therefore, be worth any great price, 
 so long as there is no universal bimetallism ? Is universal 
 bimetallism worth aiming at for the sake of mere steadiness 
 of the exchanges ? I cannot but think that, when really 
 looked at, the alleged superiority of bimetallism in this 
 respect, as in regard to its promise of more abundant 
 money, amounts to very little. 
 
 Mr. R. Gifeii. 
 
87 
 
 But what of the great evils sustained by the Indian 
 Government through the fluctuations of silver and the 
 exchanges ? by Anglo-Indians who receive salaries in India 
 and have to remit in gold ? and by banks, insurance com- 
 panies, and others who have invested in Indian securities ? 
 Is it not desirable, to obviate these evils, that bimetallism 
 should be made to operate as far as possible — that is, in the 
 circumstances when it will steady the exchanges — and that 
 there should also be universal bimetallism? To this I 
 would re2)ly that, so far as the Indian Government is con- 
 cerned, and the Indian community generally, the evils of 
 the fluctuations which have occurred have been enormously 
 exaggerated. The difficulty of the Indian Government 
 and people, so far as it is a real one — that is, so far as the 
 changes betw^een silver and gold impose any additional real 
 burden on the Indian community, wdiich can only be if gold 
 has appreciated — will not be affected at all by India 
 becoming bimetallic. The Indian Government would re- 
 ceive silver just as they now receive it, and this would not 
 help them with the increased real burden of their gold 
 payments. England might help India by becoming bi- 
 metallic, and so arresting the rise in gold or fall in silver, 
 because England has much gold to exchange for silver; 
 but this would be gratuitously altering our monetary system 
 for the sake of a temporary advantage to India. If gold, 
 on the other hand, has not appreciated, and silver has really 
 depreciated, the difficulty even of the Indian Government 
 can only be transitory, pending the adjustment of all prices 
 and payments in India. As to Anglo-Indians who receive 
 salaries in silver and have to remit in gold, their case is no 
 doubt a hard one, though to some extent the hardship is 
 exaggerated. They are not worse off" than annuitants were 
 in this country after the gold discoveries, when all prices 
 rose and their salaries or annuities did not. Here, again, 
 to introduce bimetallism would be to make a permanent 
 alteration in a monetary system to meet a temporary evil. 
 
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 Much the same may be said of the question of investments 
 by banks, insurance companies, and others in silver secu- 
 rities. They had suffered a temporary loss at a time of 
 great fluctuation, and at the present moment there is a 
 difference of about three-eighths in the rate per cent, which 
 the Indian Government has to pay on its rupee comjiared 
 with its sterling loans, showing the premium which investors 
 here charge for the additional risk of an investment in a 
 silver security compared with a gold security. But as the 
 exchanges become steadier even this premium will, no 
 doubt, diminish. It cannot be said that the flow of capital 
 from gold to silver countries is seriously checked by the 
 want of bimetallism. 
 
 Yet another advantage is alleged for bimetallism, viz., 
 that the standard of value set up by it will probably be 
 more stable from period to period than a standard of one 
 metal only. And on the doctrine of chances it would seem 
 there is, perhaps, some foundation for this statement. 
 There is some probability that the chances of one metal 
 fluctuating in value in reference to itself from period to 
 period, will be partly compensated in a double standard 
 system by the chances of the two metals not fluctuating in 
 the same direction. But in this matter, it seems to me, the 
 doctrine of chances is not a sufficient guide for action. 
 The preponderant probability, on one side or the other, is 
 not very great — it appears something like two to one in 
 favour of bimetallism ; whereas, for a guide to action, the 
 probability should be so great as to amount almost to 
 certainty. The assumption on which the doctrine of 
 chances is appealed to is, moreover, not quite warranted. 
 In real life, it may be assumed, nations will not be constant 
 in their monetary arrangements. In the future, as in the 
 past, changes of price, political aspirations, the love of 
 imitation, and hundreds of other motives, will induce one 
 nation to change gold for silver or silver for gold, or to give 
 up bimetallism for one or the other metal. The result may 
 
 Mr. R. Giffen. 
 
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 well be that, after a long lapse of years, the change of one 
 metal in value in reference to itself will be no greater than 
 the change in the combination of the two. In any case 
 the differences over long periods in the relative stability of 
 monometallic and bimetallic standards of value, hardly seem 
 an object worth any great concern to a State. 
 
 So much for the negative criticism of the alleged 
 superiorities of bimetallism to the opj)osite system. But 
 there is another side to the criticism. May there not be 
 positive defects in the bimetallic proposal, Avhich Avould 
 counterbalance even greater advantages than any that seem 
 to be promised ? 
 
 As far as what may be called particular bimetallism is 
 concerned, that is, the bimetallism of one or two countries 
 only, as distinguished from universal bimetallism, there can 
 be little dispute, I believe, of the existence of such great 
 defects. For particular States to be bimetallic is, in fact, 
 to condemn themselves to the misery and nuisance of con- 
 stant alterations of the money in use. M. Wolowski argues 
 that this is a minor matter, alleging that a country like 
 France suffers nothing by constantly changing its money in 
 use; but history is against him. Since he wrote, France 
 has shown its practical fear of the consequences of bi- 
 metallism by suspending its silver coinage, and this was 
 only in accordance with the previous experience of other 
 countries. Lord Liverpool dwells upon this misery at 
 certain periods in English history, as one of the reasons 
 which decided him against a Double Standard. Those who 
 have any curiosity in the matter may be referred to Lord 
 Liverpool's treatise (p. 61 et seq.), but the following sum- 
 mary may give some idea of his argument : — 
 
 " The evils resulting from the fluctuations in the relative 
 " prices of these metals do not appear to have shown themselves in 
 " any great extent, or at least to have been the subject of general 
 " complaint, till the reign of James I. At this last period these 
 " evils were felt in a most alarming degree In the first 
 
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 *' years of the reign of this monarch, the complaints of the expor- 
 " tation of the gold coin, on acconnt of the low value at which gold 
 " was then estimated at the English Mint, compared with the value 
 ** at which silver was then estimated, were great and incessant. 
 ** To remedy this evil. King James raised the value of gold in his 
 " coins hy successive proclamations, hut he at last raised it heyond 
 ** the due proportion ; so that during the remainder of his reign, 
 " and the whole of the reign of Charles I., the silver coins were in 
 " their turn exported, and a very small quantity of these last 
 "remained in circulation. The complaints of the want of silver 
 " coins were then as great as the complaints of the want of gold 
 ** coins haA'e heen hefore. During a short period in the middle of 
 " the seventeenth century, the relative prices at which the precious 
 " metals were estimated at the Mint in our coins, appear to have 
 ** been in a sort of equilibrium, or to have maintained a due pro- 
 " portion with the prices at which they respectively sold in the 
 " market. But in the fifteenth year of the reign of Charles II., 
 *' that is, in the year 1663, when a new estimate was made of the 
 ** relative value of gold to silver at the English Mint, that of gold 
 
 " was underrated A general coinage took place by the 
 
 *' advice of Parliament in the reign of King William III. After 
 *' this recoinage the gold coins passed in payment at a higher value 
 " than that at which they were still rated in the Mint indentures, 
 " or than the relative A^alue of gold to silver at the time would 
 "justify; not, however, by authority of Government, but by the 
 " general consent of the people. The consequence was that the 
 ** new silver coins began immediately to l)e melted down and 
 " exported, notwithstanding the very great charge Avliich the public 
 " had incurred in recoining them. A very considerable part, in the 
 " course of not more than seventeen years, had disappeared, and 
 " there was found to be a want of them in circulation. The same 
 " deficiency in the number, as well as the weight of the silver coins, 
 " has remained to the present day, to the great inconvenience of 
 " your Majesty's people. From the beginning of the reign of 
 " James I. to the period of which I am now speaking, gold and 
 " silver coins were alternately exported, for the reasons just stated, 
 " to the great detriment of the public, as often as individuals could 
 " profit thereby." * 
 
 * Lord Liverpool on the Chins of the Realm, pp. IT 
 Mr. R. Giffcn. 
 
 118. 
 
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 These Avere the practical reasons given ai. the beginning 
 of this century for adopting a single rather than a double 
 standard, and the mere statement, confirmed as it has l)een 
 by the subsequent experience of France, is enough. No 
 country will endure the misery and nuisance of the incessant 
 change, and M. Wolowski's allegation to the contrary is 
 singularly unfortunate. In England especially there is a 
 special reason against the alternation in its expense. There 
 is no seignorage on the standard coin at the English Mint, 
 a feature of importance in our monetary system. Whether 
 it is good or bad, it would have to be abandoned in a 
 bimetallic system. It could not be proposed that the 
 expense of an incessant recoinage should be thrown on the 
 country. 
 
 To some extent the misery inflicted by these alterna- 
 tions appears to arise from their depriving the people of 
 the peculiar sort of money they want, so that bimetallism 
 really thwarts the natural inclination of communities in 
 choosing their money. It is a procrustean rule under 
 which the State forces, or attempts to force, an overrated 
 metal into use, so that a country wishing to have gold may 
 be made to take silver, and vice versa. That nations have 
 their wdshes in such matters is not only proved incidentally 
 by the continual outcries in England in the seventeenth 
 century, but by numberless facts, such as the diflftculty 
 Germany now ex^ieriences in keeping the gold it has 
 acquired at so much expense and disturbance to the money 
 market, the refusal of California to take greenbacks in the 
 American Civil War, the liking of the Americans and of 
 almost all English-speaking communities for gold rather 
 than silver, the diflficulty of floating a note-circulation in 
 India, the preference in Scotland and Ireland for £ 1 notes 
 to sovereigns, and other phenomena of a similar kind. The 
 most significant event of the sort, however, was perhaps 
 that adoption of gold by England after 1696 in place of a 
 new silver coinage by the free choice of the people without 
 
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 its being legal tender^ described in the above quotatioi 
 from Lord Liverpool. Those who talk of legislation bein^ 
 able to constitute a demand for money, and being all thai 
 is necessary to do so, may be referred to such facts 
 these. Bimetallism, proceeding on the same assumptioi 
 also stands condemned by the facts. 
 
 It may be urged that now it cannot matter to a nation 
 which metal it employs for a standard, because the rej 
 standard is now bullion only, and all the coins in use ai 
 substantially token coins, used only for small chang( 
 whether they are of gold or silver. Mr. Lowe's schema 
 as described in the Fortnightly Review of last month, ah 
 assumed that standard coins of gold could be dispens( 
 with. But it may be doubted if, even in England, we hai 
 yet got to the stage of wholly dispensing with coins in us 
 of the standard metal. For travelling, and for settlii 
 minor balances between countries, gold coins and not gol^ 
 bullion are only still useful, as silver coins or silver bullion* 
 would not be. Apart from this, the greater convenience 
 of gold for storage and for the handling of banks anfll 
 other institutions which have to deal in it, would make it 
 naturally to be preferred by the richer countries; anc 
 whatever may be the case here, it is quite certain thi 
 many nations are still in a state to require coins of tl 
 standard metal in use, and particularly the silver-usinj 
 countries. So far as such preferences still exist, bimetallism 
 would tend to thwart them. It would at times create in mI 
 country which naturally likes silver a premium on th^ 
 export of that metal ; and at other times, in countries 
 which preferred gold, a premium on its export. Thi 
 would be obviously a daily and hourly drawback t< 
 bimetallism, if any country thinks of adopting it, to 
 set against the possible advantages it may confer. It wi] 
 be answered that under universal bimetallism nations wil 
 be able to use whichever metal they want, and to whai 
 extent they want; but so far as they do so, and do noj 
 
 Mr. R. Giffen, 
 
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 use both equally, bimetallism will be inoperative. If they 
 are not to have both metals in use as standard money, 
 they might as well be monometallist at once. 
 
 Having mentioned these drawbacks, we need not dwell 
 on others. It is plain that bimetallism, if it does any good, 
 will have many counterbalancing disadvantages, whether 
 it is particular or universal. But the catalogue is far from 
 exhausted. For instance, the difficulty of making such 
 subsidiary arrangements as the exemption of standard 
 money from seignorage, now so conveniently made in a 
 monometallic system, would soon be felt. There would 
 also be an obvious difficulty, under particular bimetallism 
 at least, in finding a means of bullion remittance as 
 compared with the present system. In remitting now to 
 a country where gold is used, any one at need can draw 
 a cheque on his bankers and get the gold he wants. 
 Under bimetallism he might be offered silver, and con- 
 sequently have to purchase gold in the market. Under 
 universal bimetallism the difficulty would be the same. 
 Gold and silver ex hypothesi would be equally available 
 in paying debts, but money is not wanted exclusively to 
 pay debts with ; a particular sort of money is wanted for 
 special purposes, and all choice of this sort would be at 
 an end. In effect, also, the use of either silver and gold 
 in prescribed quantities in paying debts, though it avoids 
 in appearance the fixing of a legal ratio, does fix a ratio 
 in reality. It alters the demand for gold and silver from 
 what it would be if communities merely selected the money 
 they wanted according to their convenience, and j)ro tanto 
 diverts and hinders the natural development of the industry 
 of working the precious metals. It is not to be assumed 
 certainly that this interference w^th natural taste will be 
 more successful with gold and silver than it has been with 
 other commodities. But passing over all this catalogue of 
 objections, let me only urge that, as a practical measure, 
 proposed to a country like England, bimetallism will be 
 
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 objectionable, because it is an alteration of a system roote 
 in our habits, to which we have become accustomed as th 
 air we breathe, and which we have acquired with mud 
 cost and eftbrt after long experience of many bad systems 
 Even if the other advantages of bimetallism very muc 
 outweighed those of the opposite system — and the exa 
 contrary is the case — would not the mere trouble 
 alteration be an overwhelming disadvantage ? The ol(3_| 
 authorities on English currency might be invoked t^| 
 bring even stronger arguments. The emphatic protests of 
 Locke and others against «?zy alteration of a standa 
 once chosen, as necessarily involving injustice and 
 violation of contracts, are not to be forgotten, thoug 
 it is not necessary to our argument here to dwell upoi 
 them. 
 
 Finally it remains to be urged that bimetallis 
 admitting the balance of advantages to be in its favour" 
 and that all other objections are got over, is not practicabl 
 in any proper sense of the word. Of course theoreticall; 
 any particular government adopting bimetallism, and willing 
 to force its subjects to endure the nuisance and misery o 
 incessant changes in their money, which always occ 
 when bimetallism is really operative, may introduce 
 bimetallic law. But to have such a law is not to hav 
 the two metals actually in use, which is the object aimed 
 at, or to obtain for a country most of the other allegeMl 
 advantages of bimetallism. The advantages it procures 
 will be for others, and sooner or later, therefore, any single 
 country trying bimetallism will abandon it, as France bdHl 
 so lately done. Nations are not philanthropic to the 
 extent of sacrificing themselves for the good of othe 
 A group of nations trying bimetallism Avill experience t 
 same results and follow the same course. The only chan 
 for bimetallists then is the possibility of their scheme 
 imiversal bimetallism being tried. But can any one dream 
 of such a consummation? Who is to draw the treaty 
 
 Mr, R. Giffcn. 
 
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95 
 
 What power of persuasion will brino- all countries and 
 governments to accept this gospel? The initiative must 
 clearly come from the great governments, those of England, 
 France, Germany, Austria, Eussia, and the United States. 
 But only a dreamer could imagine such governments 
 agreeing on the principle, on the ratio to be fixed, and on 
 all the subsidiary arrangements necessary ; and then uniting 
 to persuade their smaller neighbours, the dissent of almost 
 any of whom would be fatal. So strong has this objection 
 seemed that, for no other reason, Mr. Bagehot and other 
 monometallists have steadily declined to discuss bimetallism. 
 Their reluctance is surely not to be w^ondered at. Even 
 if there w^ere no other difficulty in the Avay of universal 
 agreement, there is one which would probably be fatal — 
 the risk of particular countries over-issuing paper. The 
 Latin convention has been a practical failure as regards 
 Italy for this reason, so that universal bimetallism to be 
 really effective must regulate paper as well as coin issues. 
 If it does not, the world will be no more bimetallic than 
 it is now. 
 
 What may be urged more strongly, however, on the 
 score of the impracticability of universal bimetallism, is 
 the probability that great mercantile communities may 
 have a mind of their own in the matter, and may not 
 accept bimetallic money. It is amazing to see how the 
 discussion is carried on, as if a government had only 
 to issue its fiat, and bimetallism would come into use. 
 Enough facts have been stated in this paper to show that 
 mercantile communities themselves exercise choice in this 
 matter, as England did after 1696 ; and that bimetallic legis- 
 lation would not necessarily be followed by corresponding 
 practice. Have bimetallists then any reason to believe 
 that England, which freely chose gold in place of silver 
 in 1696, would now reverse its choice, now when it is so 
 much richer and so much more a centre of international 
 payments than it was two centuries ago ? Have they 
 
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 reason to believe that the Californians who rejected green- 
 backs would submit to take any money the legislature 
 chose to give them; or that the New York Banks would 
 reconsider their late decision not to accept any of the 
 silver coins which Government had just issued as full legal 
 tender ? These and other questions must be answered in 
 the affirmative, and with conclusive facts in support of 
 them, before bimetallism can be talked of as a practicable 
 scheme. And no one who knows the business world of 
 London will fancy that, as regards this country, the 
 question would be answered in the affirmative. Leading 
 exchange brokers and bullion dealers have bimetallist 
 leanings ; they would like if it could be introduced in any 
 country. There is a half-notion at this moment among 
 some merchants, especially in the Eastern trade, that as 
 bimetallism has so much said for it, it might be tried, 
 though it may be doubted how far this notion would stand 
 the test of actual experiment; but so far as I can judge of 
 City feeling in general, the attempt to force bimetallism 
 on the mercantile and banking world of this country would 
 produce an instant revolt. The slightest approach to 
 " actuality " which bimetallic theories may attain, would 
 soon bring out the real strength of the feeling or prejudice 
 in favour of the present system which exists throughout 
 the City. 
 
 The case against bimetallism thus appears to my mind 
 overwhelmingly strong, and the dislike manifested towards 
 it seems accounted for. Its boasted superiority over the 
 single standard consists in the promise of abundant money, 
 which it does not and cannot fulfil, and which its advocates 
 give in a way that taints their entire argument with un- 
 soundness ; in the promise of greater steadiness in the 
 exchanges which it will only keep in certain circumstances, 
 while it does not really matter whether the promise is kept 
 or not, as the exchanges in any event will usually be fairly 
 steady ; and in the promise of greater stability in the 
 
 Mr. IL Giffcn, 
 
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 standard of value from period to period, which it may fulfil 
 in certain circumstances, but where, again, the alleged 
 advantage seems really immaterial. On the other hand, 
 whether particular or universal, the system will be attended 
 with no small inconveniences, such as incessant change of 
 the money in use, and interference with the natural taste 
 of commimities in the choice of their money, which have 
 formerly caused great outcries ; and in England it would 
 have the undoubted evil of altering a long-established and 
 excellent system, which is based on experience and has 
 answered in every particular the ends of its designers. 
 Bimetallism, moreover, is really impracticable. If one or 
 two or even more nations try it, they do not succeed in 
 getting the two metals in use, and it is not even conceiv- 
 able that all should agree to try it. Moreover, whatever 
 governments may say, it does not follow that great mer- 
 cantile communities wdll be obedient, and the chance of 
 their preferring monometallism is an element of difficulty 
 to be reckoned with. Such a scheme does not seem entitled 
 to any favour. As founded on the assertion of vague 
 and indefinite evils, which cannot exist in a community 
 possessing a sound metallic currency, as promising vague 
 and indefinite advantages, and as utterly and hopelessly 
 impracticable, even if it should be tried, it seems 
 really liable to all the dislike which sober business men 
 entertain towards flighty currency projects. Matters in 
 its favour are not needed by the talk which I have not 
 thouofht it worth while to discuss, about the ratio of 
 15 J to 1 being the result of providential arrangement. 
 If bimetallists are sometimes reviled as lunatics, and 
 economists like Mr. Bagehot can hardly be brought to 
 overcome their disgust at the argument for bimetallism, 
 so as to turn aside even to discuss it, they are surely 
 not without excuse. Mathematicians do not stop to argue 
 w ith squarers of the circle, or with reasoners that the earth 
 is flat. 
 
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08 
 
 One more remark, by way of supplement. A former 
 controversy on this subject arose out of the suggestions for 
 an international money, which were so common ten or 
 fifteen years ago. Those who attach great importance to 
 the world having such a money, will regret that the case 
 against bimetallism is so strong, as it is only in such a 
 scheme they can at present see a way to their end. To 
 attempt to reach it by means of the opposite system implies 
 an extensive demonetisation of one metal or the other, 
 which is not to be thought of at present. But the idea of 
 an international money, in the present stage of the world's 
 economic progress, is really premature. Nations generally 
 are not yet so closely inter-connected as to make it worth 
 while that all should have the same money, to which there 
 are many other obstacles — such as over-issues of incon- 
 vertible paper — as well as the differences between gold 
 and silver. We may well leave future generations, there- 
 fore, to deal with this question, content to do the best we 
 can with the monetary arrangements in our power. As 
 the need for international money increases, the means for 
 introducing it may also be prepared, as they would be 
 prepared, for instance by the gradual introduction in all 
 countries of the use of gold for large payments, the general 
 use of silver in token coinage only, the increasing wealth 
 of the world causing a great increase of the demand for 
 token coinage, and the extension of economising expedients, 
 so as to lighten the strain upon the dearer and standard 
 metal. An international money upon a monometallic basis 
 is thus a possibility of the future, and there is no need for 
 precipitating matters by impracticable schemes. 
 
 ROBERT GIFFEN. 
 
BIMETALLISM/ 
 
 From the Contemjmrary Review, May, 1S81. 
 
 It may be safely said that the question of bimetallism is 
 one which does not admit of any precise and simple answer. 
 It is essentially an indeterminate problem. It involves 
 several variable quantities and many constant quantities, 
 the latter being either inaccurately known or in many cases 
 altogether unknown. The present annual supply of gold 
 and of silver are ascertained with fair approach to certainty, 
 but the future supplies are matter of doubt. The demand 
 for the metals again involves wholly unknown quantities, 
 depending partly upon the course of trade, but partly also 
 upon the action of foreign peoples and governments, about 
 which we can only form surmises. 
 
 The question is much complicated, again, by presenting 
 a double problem — that regarding the next decade of years, 
 and that regarding the more remote future. Possibly, a 
 step which might be convenient during the course of the 
 next ^\Q, ten, or fifteen years, would prove subsequently 
 to be the mere postponement of a real and inevitable 
 difficulty. When we pursue an inquiry of this complex 
 and indeterminate kind, it resolves itself into endless 
 hypotheses as to what will or will not happen if something 
 else happens or does not happen. Nevertheless, it does 
 not follow that, because statistical science fails us, we can 
 
 * Reprinted, with other Essays on the same subject, in a volume of 
 papers by the late Professor Jevons, on Currency and Finance, and 
 published by Messrs. Macmillan k Co. 
 
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100 
 
 ^sBiCT^o practical conclusion ; on the contrary, from the 
 very vagueness and uncertainty of the suhjcct may emerge 
 a conviction that it is best to do nothing at all. A party 
 of travellers lost in a fog will probably indulge in a great 
 many speculations and arguments as to the possible paths 
 and turnings they might take ; but the wisest course may, 
 nevertheless, be to stay where they are until the air 
 becomes clear. 
 
 Looking at the question, in the first place, as a chronic 
 one, that is, as regarding the constitution of monetary 
 systems during centuries, it is indispensable to remember 
 the fact, too much overlooked by disputants, that the 
 values of gold and silver are ultimately governed, like 
 those of all other commodities, by the cost of production. 
 Unless clear reasons, then, can be shown why silver should 
 be more constant in its circumstances of production than 
 gold, there is no ground for thinking that a bimetallic gold 
 and silver money will afford a more steady standard of 
 value than gold alone. The common argument that there 
 will not be enough gold to carry on the trade of the world 
 with, does not stand a moment's examination in this aspect. 
 In the first place, if the value of gold rises, more gold will 
 be produced, and the great number of gold-mining enter- 
 prises now being put forth may have some connection with 
 this principle. In the second place, so long as sudden 
 changes of supply and demand can be avoided, it is almost 
 a matter of indifference, within certain limits, whether 
 there is much gold or little. Prices having once settled 
 themselves, it is only a question of carrying a little more 
 metal or a little less in your pocket. As Cantillon, 
 and subsequently, but independently, Hume, remarked, if 
 the money in the world were suddenly doubled or halved 
 trade would go on as before, all prices being approximately 
 doubled or halved. But, of course, the interests of creditors 
 and debtors would be affected wdiile the change was in 
 progress. 
 
 Professor Jevons, M 
 
101 
 
 Now, as regards the chronic question, it is probable, 
 though not certain, that the establishment of the bimetallic 
 ratio of 15 J to 1 would give a worse rather than a better 
 standard of value, because the momentary standard is always 
 the over-estimated metal. The double-standard system gives 
 an option to the debtor, so that if either gold or silver wei*e 
 in future years discovered in large quantities, the debtor 
 would have the benefit. In the monometallic system there 
 is no option, and all parties stake their interests on the single 
 metal. To these considerations must be added the historical 
 f\ict that silver has during the last thousand years fallen in 
 value more than gold. The ratio of values in the iSIiddle 
 Ages was about 10 to 1, fluctuating at times to 12 to 1. 
 Later on silver became comparatively cheaper, and in the 
 latter part of last century, 15 J to 1 correctly represented 
 the natural ratio. For some fifty years it was held pretty 
 steadily at this point by the action of the French Currency 
 Law. The unprecedented discoveries of gold in California, 
 Australia, New Zealand, and elsewhere, reversed the course 
 of prices for a time, but more lately the tendency to a 
 preponderating fall of silver has reasserted itself. No doubt 
 the events here so briefly recapitulated admit of endless 
 discussion, and it would be impossible even to mention the 
 volumes which have been written since the time of Locke 
 upon the comparative steadiness of value of gold and silver. 
 There emerges a certain degree of probability that silver 
 is more subject to depreciation than gold, although both 
 have, in the course of a thousand years, been very greatly 
 depreciated in comparison with corn and the chief kinds of 
 raw materials. 
 
 If this may be assumed to be the case, it follows that an 
 attempt to re-establish the ratio 15^ to 1 would tend to 
 discourage the production of the dearer metal, gold, and to 
 encourage the production of the more depreciated silver. 
 We should be filling our pockets and our strong boxes with 
 a metal 15^ times as heavy and 28^ times as bulky as gold. 
 
102 
 
 proportionally to value, in order to get a worse medium of 
 exchange, and a probably worse standard of value. Nor 
 should we be approximating towards a better state of things. 
 If gold is destined ultimately to be the general standard of 
 value of all civilized nations, we must let it take its own 
 natural value, and must allow the appreciation, if any, to tell 
 upon the profits of mining. But the arbitrary reduction in 
 the vahie of gold, involved in the present bimetallic project, 
 would tend constantly to replace gold by silver; and unless 
 it were desired actually to take silver as the medium of 
 exchange, the last state of things would be worse than the 
 first. It thus becomes plain that a bimetallic regime is not 
 the means of approximating to a gold regime. On the 
 contrary, it must either be a permanent regime, or it will, 
 sooner or later, leave us with a vast stock of silver, liable 
 to sudden depreciation, and a diminished stock of gold. In 
 short, the project of M. Cernuschi is not a real panacea for 
 our present troubles ; it is only a mode of postponement 
 leading to eventual aggravation. 
 
 When we turn to the temporary view of the subject, by 
 which I mean the circumstances and interests of the next 
 ten or fifteen years, the difficulties increase, chiefly because 
 the data become wholly uncertain and contingent. The 
 great principle of the cost of production fails us, because in 
 the case of sucli durable commodities as gold and silver, the 
 accumulated stock in hand is immensely greater than the 
 annual production or consumption. It stands to reason, of 
 course, that if several great nations suddenly decide that 
 they will at all cost have gold currencies to be coined in the 
 next few years, the annual production cannot meet the 
 demand, which must be mainly supplied, if at all, out of 
 stock. The result would, doubtless, be a tendency to a fall 
 of prices. M. de Laveleye, in one of the able articles which 
 he is contributing to the Independance Beige, as an advocate 
 of Cernuschi-ism, points to a fall of 30 per cent., which he 
 thinks has already been occasioned by the demand for gold 
 
 Professor Jevons. 1 
 
103 
 
 currency. He excites our imagination as to what may be 
 expected to happen shpuld Italy and other countries need 
 gold for coining. But he omits to observe that the fall of 
 30 per cent, is probably due for the most part to the collapse 
 of credit and speculation, a periodic event of which we have 
 had many prior instances. The period of 1833 to 1844, 
 especially was one when no great wars and monetary 
 operations were in progress ; it w^as a period of active 
 industrial and commercial progress. Yet the tables of 
 prices given by Tooke, in his History of Prices, and 
 reduced in my paper on the Variation of Prices, communi- 
 cated to the Statistical Society in May, 1865 (vol. xxviii. 
 pp. 294-320), show that the average prices rose by 22^ per 
 cent, between 1833 and 1839, and fell 25 per cent, between 
 this last year and 1844. So far as I have been able to 
 discover, this great oscillation was entirely due to the general 
 expansion of trade and credit, and to its subsequent collapse. 
 Like causes have certainly been in operation in the last ten 
 or twelve years; and if, as seems probable, we are now 
 getting round by the lapse of time to the period w^hen trade 
 naturally revives, experience would prevent us from imagin- 
 ing that the late fall of values will be continued or repeated 
 without an intervening rise. I am far from denying that 
 if the Italian Government decide to carry into effect 
 M. Luzzatti's threat of buying gold at all hazards, and if the 
 like course be taken by the United States and France, not 
 to speak of Germany, then there might be a considerable 
 disturbance of values for a time. But is it likely that such 
 proceedings will be taken by rational statesmen and rational 
 parliaments ? It is really too absurd to suppose that any 
 country wdU insist upon immediately having a gold currency 
 at any cost, regardless of the fact that it will thereby injure 
 its own trade and commerce in the getting. The position 
 is simply this. We have had for fifty years or more an 
 abundant currency of gold. Italy and some other countries 
 have a paper currency. Suddenly becoming disgusted with 
 paper, they say that unless we consent immediately to 
 
abandon our gold to a great extent, and take silver instead, 
 they will insist upon buying our gold from us at "whatever 
 price we like to ask for it. We have so good a currency 
 that, unless we consent to give it up willingly, they will 
 insist on borrowing it from us. But surely in this case, 
 possession is nine points of the law. The largest stock of 
 gold in the world is to be found in England, and many of 
 the great gold-producing districts are to be found in the 
 English colonies or dependencies. If these foreign nations 
 insist upon having gold currencies, they must pay our price 
 for gold, and they must in raising the price benefit us and 
 our colonies, comparatively speaking. 
 
 When we consider what are the difficulties put forward 
 as the ground of this bimetallic crotchet, we find that they 
 arise either out of the sudden issue and withdrawal of 
 paper money, or else out of the eflforts of certain govern- 
 ments to get rid of silver. If the Italians suddenly want 
 fifteen or twenty millions of specie, it is because they 
 allowed their specie to be replaced by paper in former 
 years, and they now discover the evils of a variable paper 
 currency. Germany wants gold, because Prince Bismarck 
 and his economists recognised the soundness of the prin- 
 ciples on which Lord Liverpool fashioned our metallic 
 currency. But because Germany has met with a temporary 
 check in striving after a gold standard, is there any 
 reason that we, who have had a gold standard with little 
 interruption since the time of Sir Isaac Newton, should 
 throw it up at the demand of M. Cernuschi? The 
 difficulties of France simply consist in the fact that, having 
 had the law of the double standard previously in operation, 
 she suspended the action of the law as soon as it began 
 to occasion a return of silver. If all civilized countries 
 were to adopt the double standard, they would just be 
 inviting the growth of a silver currency, which France, 
 with full experience of the use of silver, has practically 
 decided to avoid. 
 
 Much that has recently been published on this subject, 
 l*rofessor J c vans. 
 
105 
 
 including the official text of the draft resolution to be 
 submitted to the Conference in Paris, implies that the 
 French law establishing the double standard was intended 
 to act as a regulator of the values of the metals according 
 to the ratio of 15^ to 1. The fact, however, is that no 
 such idea seems to have prompted the law. Gaudin, who 
 in the ninth year of the Kevolution proposed the ratio of 
 lo^ to 1, did so upon the ground that this ratio was 
 sufficiently near to that of the market values to allow coins 
 of gold and silver to circulate side by side indifferently. 
 In case the market ratio should alter after a time, he 
 thought that the gold pieces could be melted and reissued. 
 Sir Isaac Newton, again, when in 1717 he fixed the guinea 
 at 21 5., did so upon the ground that this was the closest 
 convenient approximation to market rates. Only four 
 months ago I quoted in the Contemporary Review 
 (January, 1881, vol. xxxix. p. 73) the remarks of Cantillon 
 upon this decision of Newton. Cantillon says : — 
 
 " It is the market price which decides the proportion of 
 " the value of gold to that of silver. On this is based the 
 " proportion which we give to pieces of gold and silver money. 
 " If the market price varies considerably, it is necessary to 
 " alter the proportion of the coins. If we neglect to do this 
 " the circulation is thrown into confusion and disorder," &c. 
 There is, in fact, no precedent for the views now pressed 
 upon us. It is not even proposed to accept the prevailing 
 ratio of the markets, but by an arbitrary convention to raise 
 up silver to the place it held in the markets before, which 
 involves bringing down gold so as to meet it about half-way. 
 I do not undertake to deny that if a convention were agreed 
 upon, and carried into formal effect, it might possibly raise 
 silver to its former price of o9rZ. per ounce. The measure 
 is one of so novel a character that it is almost impossible to 
 say what would or Avould not happen. The attempt to force 
 silver dollars into use in the United States has entirely 
 failed, and it might fail even under a convention. It is 
 
106 
 
 quite conceivable tliat in the United Kingdom and the 
 colonies the scheme would be defeated by the tacit refusal 
 of the people to accept silver legal tender. A bank or a 
 tradesman might try to stand upon his legal rights, but the 
 result would be a kind of commercial '^ Boycotting." Some 
 formula would probably be discovered for contracting aifairs 
 out of the Double Legal Tender Law. At present there 
 is no law to prevent people from making contracts in 
 terms of gold or silver bullion, or tin or copper or corn, or 
 Avhatever else they like, which is capable of precise defini- 
 tion. Even if the law were not thus circumvented, it 
 might still be possible to make payments in gold a point 
 of honour. 
 
 Then, again, the perpetual maintenance of this supposed 
 convention is the only safeguard against the most serious 
 inconvenience to some of the parties to it. The convention 
 would resemble a chain, the breaking of each link of which 
 would throw an increased strain upon the other links. 
 There exist, indeed, a good many international conventions 
 relating to postal intercourse, extradition of criminals, 
 copyright, and so forth ; but in none of these cases would 
 the breaking or suspension of the convention result in any 
 ruinous consequences. There would be suspension of 
 benefits rather than occasion of evil. But should war break 
 out among some of the countries involved in the monetary 
 convention, the probable effect would be to throw the mass 
 of silver coin upon neutral nations. This might be done 
 without any express breach of the convention, simply by 
 the issue of paper money, a measure which we cannot 
 pretend to consider unlikely, seeing that the chief difficulties 
 of the present monetary situation arise out of efforts for the 
 withdrawal of recent paper-money issues. It is true that 
 the 8th Article of the proposed Convention enacts that 
 " the fact of issuing or allowing to be issued paper money, 
 " convertible or otherwise, shall not relieve the State issuing 
 " it, or allowing it to be issued, from the above stipulated 
 
 Professor Jevons, 
 
107 
 
 " obligation of keeping* its mints always open for the free 
 " mintage of the two metals at the ratio of 1 to 15 J." But, 
 as far as I can understand this *' keeping of the mints open," 
 it seems probable that this article would be quite nugatory 
 in time of war. If silver were depreciated oor 10 per cent., 
 paper legal tender might easily be depreciated 20 or 30 per 
 cent., and nobody would think of coining silver to pay their 
 debts, when they could pay them so much more cheaply 
 with paper. The issue of paper legal tender forms then, to 
 the best of my belief, an indirect mode of abrogating the 
 convention without a distinct breach of faith. No govern- 
 ment has ever yet resisted the temptation of resorting to 
 paper under serious stress of war, and therefore, until a 
 wiser and better state of things is brought about in the long 
 course of time, it Avould seem impossible to fulfil the first 
 condition of the bimetallic project — the making of an inde- 
 feasible convention. 
 
 When a measure is so clearly undesirable, it is hardly 
 needful to point out the many difficulties which would arise 
 in its operation. But there is one which presents itself to 
 my mind as almost insuperable — namely, the confusion 
 which would be produced in the masses of national and 
 other debts contracted in terms of gold money. Silver is 
 now about 13 per cent, below its old customary value, 
 compared with gold. If, then, debts contracted formerly in 
 gold could be paid in silver, by the option of the bimetallic 
 system, the claims of all creditors would be endangered to 
 this extent, and in all probability would be depreciated to 
 half that extent. Nor would the matter be much improved 
 by enacting that old debts should be paid in gold as 
 contracted, because gold, being forced into a fixed par with 
 silver, would be depreciated, say, six per cent. The adoption 
 of the bimetallic regime would be a coup cCetat affecting the 
 value of all past monetary contracts in a degree incapable 
 of estimation ; and although such a coup, or almost any 
 other coup, might be advisable under certain circumstances. 
 
108 
 
 according to the maxim, salus populi suprema lex, yet it 
 would be clearly impossible to unsettle the whole monetary 
 contracts of the British nation and the British race, to the 
 extent of some six per cent, or more, for the sake of the 
 exceedingly problematic, if not visionary, advantages to be 
 derived from this proposed convention. 
 
 Though it thus appears to be altogether out of the 
 question that the English Government should contemplate 
 the abandonment of the gold standard, there are two or 
 three minor measures of a temporary nature which might 
 perhaps be adopted to relieve the disturbed relations of the 
 precious metals. There would probably be little or no 
 inconvenience in raising the limit of legal currency of silver 
 coin in the United Kingdom to five pounds instead of tAvo 
 pounds as at present. This change would probably prove 
 to be merely a nominal one, unless bankers and others could 
 be induced to pay out silver coin more largely than at 
 present. The Mint gains so handsome a profit upon the 
 coinage of silver money at present that the opportunity 
 might well be taken to throw as much silver into 'circulation 
 as possible ; but unless the habits of the people be changed 
 it would not stop in circulation. There is, in fact, at present 
 a very clear disinclination on the part of the public to take 
 any larger amount of silver money than is necessary. It is 
 an almost imknown thing in England for any tradesman to 
 give as much as two pounds in silver change. No customer 
 is expected to take more than ten, or at the most twenty 
 shillings in silver, and any surplus of silver receipts is paid 
 into the banking account, and the general balance of the 
 district is eventually returned to the Bank of England. It 
 is very doubtful whether Mr. Seyd's scheme of a four-shilling 
 piece or any other scheme would overcome this fixed habit, 
 which is moreover a reasonable habit. 
 
 A good deal has been said about the expediency of 
 bringing into operation the Third Clause of the Bank 
 Charter Act, which is supposed to authorize the issue of 
 Professor Jevons. 
 
109 
 
 notes upon a reserve of silver bullion to a certain extent. 
 That Clause reads as follows : — 
 
 " And whereas it is ncccssjiry to limit the amount of silver 
 '* buUiou on which it shall be lawful for the same department of 
 " the Bank of England to issue Bank of England notes ; be it 
 " therefore enacted, that it shall not be lawful for the Bank of 
 '^ England to retain in the Issue Department of the said Bank at 
 " any one time an amount of silver bullion exceeding one-fourth 
 " part of the gold coin and bullion at such time held by the Bank 
 " of England in the Issue Department." 
 
 It is obvious that this clause is solely a restrictive one ; 
 that which authorizes the holding of silver bullion is the 
 preceding clause, far too long for quotation. It states, 
 however, that it shall not be lawful to issue notes in excess 
 of the securities allowed to be transferred to the Issue 
 Department, " save in exchange for other Bank of England 
 " notes, or for gold coin, or for gold or silver bullion received 
 " or purchased for the said Issue Department under the 
 " provisions of this Act," &c. It is curious that, although the 
 second clause thus seems to speak of silver bullion being 
 '' received or purchased under the provisions of this Act," 
 there are no provisions in the rest of the Act relating to the 
 purchase of silver. The fourth clause defines the price at 
 which all persons may demand notes for gold bullion, but 
 there is no like definition as regards silver. The result 
 seems to be that the Bank of England buys and sells silver 
 bullion as an ordinary dealer or speculator. If, then, the 
 Bank Directors think that it will conduce to the interests 
 of their shareholders that they should lay in a stock of three, 
 four, or five millions of pounds' worth of silver, as the case 
 may be, let them do so. They will gain or lose according 
 as the value of that stock rises or falls ; but who can say 
 how that will be ? In any case, the effect of such an 
 operation upon the silver markets of the world must be 
 inappreciable. 
 
 There is one further measure which might well be 
 
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 adopted at the present conjuncture, namely, tlie alteration 
 of the Bank Act so as to allow of the issue from the Bank 
 of one-pound notes. Now that Parliament has authorized 
 the circulation in England under very questionable conditions 
 of a fractionable paper currency, the last shadow of reason 
 has disappeared why one-pound notes, so long current in 
 Scotland and Ireland, should be unknown in England. If 
 we could suppose that thirty millions of such notes were 
 put into circulation eventually, about twenty millions might 
 be issued on Securities, giving a profit to the Government 
 of nearly half a million a year. The margin of ten millions 
 more or less of gold added to the specie reserve of the Issue 
 Department would be ample to meet any conceivable 
 demand for payment of such notes, the circulation of which 
 would probably be more constant than that of the larger 
 notes. Thus a supply of tAventy millions of sovereigns 
 would be opportunely thrown upon the markets of the world, 
 which might be scrambled for by the various nations now 
 wanting gold currencies. 
 
 It will easily be seen that in this article I do not pretend 
 to enter into the complexities of the subject, nor to answer 
 the numerous arguments adduced in favour of the bimetallic 
 project. The literature and statistics of the subject are of 
 an almost interminable extent. If any reader wants to 
 learn what he has to read before he can be considered to 
 have mastered this subject, let him refer to A Partial List 
 of Modern Publications on the Subject of Money, prejiared 
 by Mr. Ilorton, and printed among the Apj)endices to the 
 Official American Report on the International Monetary 
 Conference, held in Paris, in August, 1878. This volume 
 is replete with information on the subject. But my con- 
 tention is that to wade through the interminable discussions 
 on bimetallism is about as useful as to wander through a 
 forest in a mist, the happiest result of which is usually to 
 find yourself back again at the point you started from. 
 
 W. STANLEY JEVONS, 
 
 I 
 
WHAT IS A POUND? 
 
 From the Nineteenth Century^ June, 1881. 
 
 This old question, which Sir EoLert Peel so much rejoiced 
 iu, has once more cropped up, and in the remarks I wish to 
 make upon it I desire to say a few words upon what loas a 
 230und and what may he a pound. 
 
 In his speech on the Bank Act of 1844 he says of the 
 principle of the metallic standard : " It must at the same 
 " time be admitted that it would be quite consistent with 
 " that principle to adopt some other measure of value than 
 " that Avhich we have adopted. It would be consistent with 
 " that principle to select silver instead of gold as the 
 " standard, or to have a mixed standard of gold and silver, 
 " the relative value of the tioo metals being determined, or to 
 " dispense with gold coin altogether, and regulate the 
 " amount and value of the paper currency by making it 
 " convertible only, according to the proposal of Mr. Ricardo, 
 " into gold bullion of a given minimum amount." 
 
 The authority of this great financier may therefore be 
 cited as showing that bimetallism as now proposed is not 
 otherwise than in accordance with the principle of the 
 metallic standard. 
 
 The Earl of Liverpool made his proposal for a gold 
 standard on the ground that Great Britain is " so dis- 
 " tinguished for its affluence and for the extent of its 
 " commercial connections, that gold coins are best adapted 
 " to be the principal measure of property." 
 
112 
 
 The monometallists in the present controversy maintain 
 this doctrine, and assert that the superior wealth of England 
 enables her to keep her gold standard, while less wealthy 
 nations, such as Germany, Italy, &c., could not do so. On 
 the other hand, the bimetallists declare that this supremacy 
 would continue and even increase if England submitted 
 herself to a general law agreed on in concert with other 
 nations. The Americans believe that their Avealth, intel- 
 ligence, commercial activity, and undeveloped resources 
 will enable them, if they are forced into a gold standard, to 
 outstrip England in the race for wealth, and to draw from 
 England's store of gold a sufficient amount to place them in 
 the foremost rank. 
 
 The present controversy dates from the first monetary 
 conference in Paris, which sat in June, 1867, and which 
 was called for the purpose of '' appreciating more earnestly 
 " the advantages which would be derived from the unifi- 
 " cation of coinages." 
 
 At the very first meeting the question of standards 
 arose, and on its arising the existence of the double standard 
 seemed so little understood that the delegate from ilussia, 
 having been placed among those representing the double- 
 standard countries, declared that there was only one 
 standard in Kussia, that of silver; but he was corrected 
 by Monsieur de Parieu, the French delegate, who informed 
 him that both metals were legal tender in both countries. 
 
 On the 20th of June, at the third sitting, the propo- 
 sition " that the desired result, namely, monetary unification, 
 " is attainable on the basis and condition of adopting the 
 " exclusive gold standard," was carried with one dissentient 
 voice. 
 
 In 1871 the German demonetisation of money com- 
 menced, and in 1873 an Act of Congress was passed by 
 which silver was legally demonetised in the United States, 
 which act was, however, corrected by what is called the 
 Bland Bill, enforcing the coinage of a certain amount of 
 
 Mr, H. R. Grenfcll. 
 
113 
 
 silver monthly. In 1878 another international monetary 
 conference assembled at Paris, at which the German Empire 
 was not represented, but, notwithstanding the absence of 
 that important element, the European States, through their 
 delegates, agreed "that it is necessary to maintain in the 
 " world the functions of silver as well as those of gold," 
 thereby coming to a conclusion at variance with that at 
 which the previous conference had arrived. 
 
 A third conference is now sitting. Since the de- 
 monetisation of silver in Germany, a change which was 
 the legitimate consequence of the verdict of 1868, a con- 
 tinued fall of prices has taken place, and one of the subjects 
 of dispute between those engaged in the battle of the 
 standards is, whether that depreciation of prices and the 
 existing depression of trade are due to the usual ebb and 
 flow of commercial life caused by bad harvests and the 
 cupidity and folly of man, or w^hether they are due in a 
 great measure to the currency revolution of 1873. 
 
 The English system of metallic currency is founded on 
 Lord Liverpool's letter to the King on coins, on the report 
 of the Bullion Committee of 1810, and on the various Acts 
 relating to the resumption of what were called cash pay- 
 ments, or the right to receive standard coin in exchange for 
 bank-notes. 
 
 Most people are aware that previous to 1819 our circu- 
 lation was a paper one, but few are aware that, previous to 
 the suspension of cash payments, it was bimetallic, and not 
 measured by a gold standard. Of this fact it must be 
 supposed that Sir Robert Peel was not conscious when he 
 made his famous speech on the resumption of cash payments 
 in 1819, the peroration of which contains the following 
 sentence : " Every consideration of sound policy and every 
 " obligation of strict justice should induce us to restore the 
 " ancient and permanent standard of value." 
 
 Now, this is precisely what he did not do, but what the 
 bimetaUists are now advising. What they wish for is a 
 
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 return to the "ancient standard of the realm" in common 
 with the rest of the nations of the earth. 
 
 The fall of prices which took place after the institution 
 of the modern, not ancient, gold standard of 1816, and that 
 which has taken place since the demonetisation of silver in 
 Germany, have both been the subject of a most voluminous 
 literature. 
 
 The evils connected with the fall in prices are disputed 
 by some economists, so in alluding to them I prefer to 
 quote the remarks of those whose orthodoxy is undoubted. 
 Mr. Giffen said in 1879 :— 
 
 '' I have come to the conclusion that not only is there a 
 " decline of prices at the present time from the high level estab- 
 ** lished a few years ago, but that this decline is more serious 
 " than the downward fluctuations of prices usually exhibited in 
 " dull times, and that it may be partly of a permanent character, 
 " unless some great change should occur in the condition of 
 " business at an early date 
 
 " The reason is that a sudden pressure on the precious metals 
 " at a given period tends to disturb the money markets of the 
 *' countries using them 
 
 " Altogether, during the last six years, Germany has coined 
 " 84,000,000 ; the accumulation of gold in the United States 
 " amounts to 30,000,000 sterling." 
 
 A falling oflf in the supply of gold, as well as the 
 increased demand, is then described. 
 
 Now, if these things are admitted by the monometallists, 
 the question arises to what extent is the fall in prices an 
 evil ? and what is evil, and what is good, to a writer on 
 political economy ? 
 
 In my humble opinion, violent, sudden, and frequent 
 oscillations in the price of commodities are an evil. A long 
 continuance of the inability to obtain the due return for 
 their labours, be they what they may, is an evil to ordinary 
 men. It is an evil for those who have made fair and honest 
 
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 calculations, founded on a belief in a continuance of steady- 
 returns of any kind, to find them permanently falsified to 
 their loss and detriment. It is bootless to tell us that we 
 must consider this as a chronic question, irrespective of the 
 immediate effect of such sudden changes. If an enormous 
 depreciation in prices of all things produced in England be 
 not an evil, then I admit the bimetallist would be very 
 wrong to press his views on the public notice. 
 
 The inflation of prices in 1872 was felt to be a most 
 undoubted evil to consumers ; to those who produced nothing 
 it was an unmixed evil. To these same persons the state of 
 commercial depression is rather a good than an evil. They 
 receive as much now as they did before, and they pay less 
 for what they consume. But to those who are neither 
 enthusiasts nor doctrinaires the sudden inflation of prices 
 which went by the name of the coal famine was a great 
 evil, though perhaps not so great as the present depression, 
 which, though less sudden, appears more lasting, and there- 
 fore may be more mischievous in its results. 
 
 Consumers may be the better for this state of things, 
 but it must be allowed that if the interests of consumers 
 who have produced nothing are to be weighed against those 
 of consumers who have produced something — that is to say, 
 the drones against the working bees — these w^orking bees 
 always have been, and always must be, the objects of first 
 consideration. 
 
 Philosophers tell us to postpone all thoughts of the 
 interests of producers, in the hope that fifty years hence all 
 things may be set straight again and trade go on as before, 
 even though " all prices be approximately doubled or halved, 
 " the interest of creditors and debtors being affected to that 
 " extent while the change was in progress." Keither credi- 
 tors nor debtors would bear the doubling their property 
 with modesty, or the halving it with equanimity, even 
 though the operation might vindicate the perfection of the 
 doctrines of Locke and of Lord Liverpool. 
 
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 Having stated the extent to which I believe certain 
 evils exist, I proceed to say what bimetallism is and what it 
 is not. 
 
 The bimetallism proposed is the free mintage of the two 
 precious metals at a given fixed ratio of 15^ to 1 in all 
 countries agreeing to a convention for the establishment of 
 the principle. It naturally would entail the legal tender of 
 either metal at the option of the debtor for the payment of 
 all debts. 
 
 Bimetallism is not an attempt to make silver or gold, or 
 both together, the currency of any country, the probability 
 being that under such an arrangement no alteration would 
 take place as to the coin in which the ordinary transactions 
 of life are carried on. Bankers would; as they do now, hold 
 in their tills just such notes, coin, or change as their 
 customers require, and would not, any more than they do 
 now, force their creditors or depositors to take away sacks 
 of five-franc pieces or crowns when they want cash with 
 which to pay their wages or bills. Legally, of course, this 
 could be done ; but as the habit now is to keep precisely 
 that form of currency which depositors require, so would it 
 be under a bimetallic system. The example of this is to be 
 found in England in the last century. The law was 
 bimetallic, but the practice was a gold currency. In India, 
 if a bimetallic law were promulgated to-morrow, in practice 
 silver would continue to be used. 
 
 Bimetallism existed in this country from 1717 to 1778, 
 during which period an Englishman could pay his debts 
 either in gold or in silver to the amount of £25 in tale 
 and any amoimt in weight. Bimetallism existed in France 
 from the beginning of this century to 1873, during which 
 period it is not denied that both gold and silver have 
 been the prevailing currency of that country, though not 
 both at the same time ; nor is it denied that during that 
 period the relative prices of gold and silver were kept 
 almost exactly at the legal rate of 15 J to 1, not only 
 
 Mr, H, R. GrenfelL 
 
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 in France, the bimetallic country, but in the markets 
 of the world, or that England, having been bimetallic 
 previously, returned to cash payments in 1819 in gold 
 alone, thereby causing an important loss to debtors and 
 gain to creditors. 
 
 The following may be shortly stated as the fundamental 
 propositions of bimetallists, which they assert have not 
 been answered : — 
 
 1. That the precious metals used for circulation are so 
 large a proportion of the existing mass that the amount in 
 use for any other purpose is too small to have any influence 
 on their value. 
 
 2. That the amount used by the larger States so far 
 exceeds that of the rest of the world that any agreement 
 made by them for the regulation of the relative value must 
 of necessity fix it to the world at large. 
 
 3. That there is nothing impossible or impracticable in 
 an international agreement for the fixing of the rate. 
 
 4. That the ratio of 15^ to 1 having been maintained 
 for nearly the whole of the present century by the French 
 bimetallic arrangement, it would be the best ratio at which 
 to fix it. 
 
 At the present moment it is of paramount importance 
 that these propositions should either be answered or proved 
 to be beside the question. Those wlio are occupied in 
 discussing it are apt to treat it as if it were only a chronic 
 question, and not one requiring immediate attention. If it 
 had not been the subject of attention in 1868, it is quite 
 true that no one would have dreamed of stirring it in 1881. 
 Both parties to the controversy are agreed that it would 
 have been far better if Germany had never followed up 
 the conclusions of 1868. 
 
 To those who argue that this is a chronic question and 
 
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 not necessary to be immediately considered, the following 
 facts are not unworthy of attention. 
 
 It has been shown that by the admission of the advocates 
 of monometallism the evils of trade depression are to be 
 traced to the diminution of the supplies of gold, and to the 
 increased demand for it, and it is now proposed to show 
 that the latter cause is likely to be increased if Germany 
 throws her silver on the market, if Italy resumes cash 
 payments in gold, and if America completes her gigantic 
 task of resumption and recall of her bonds by resorting, as 
 many of her financiers wish to do, to a monometallic gold 
 cm-rency. 
 
 Mr. Jevons admits this when he says : — 
 
 " It stands to reason, of course, that if several great nations 
 " suddenly decide that they will at all cost have gold currencies 
 " to be coined in the next few years the annual production cannot 
 ** meet the demand, which must be mainly supplied, if at all, out 
 " of stock. The result would be a tendency to a fall in prices." 
 
 The question, then, is not whether a change in currency 
 is a good thing or a bad thing, because w^e are all agreed 
 that it is a bad thing, but whether the change of England to 
 bimetallism or that of the Latin Union and the United States 
 to a monometallic gold standard Avould be the greater evil. 
 
 Some of the adherents of the single standard assure us 
 that it is an error to suppose that it is possible to make 
 such a change as this at all, and, granting that possibility, 
 that we insure greater steadiness in prices than at present. 
 Again I prefer to quote Mr. Jevons rather than to express 
 my own opinion. 
 
 In his work on Money and the Mechanism of Exchange 
 he says : — 
 
 " I have no doubt whatever that M. Wolowski is theoretically 
 " quite correct in what he says about the compensatory action of 
 ** the double-standard system. English writers seem to have com- 
 " pletely misunderstood the questiou, asserting that the system 
 
 Mr, H, R. Grcnfell. 
 
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 '* exposes us to the extreme fluctuations of both metals. . . . Nor 
 " is this the whole error of English writers. A little reflection 
 " must show that MM. Wolowski and Conrcelle Leneuil are 
 " quite correct in urging that a compensatory, or, as I should 
 " prefer to call it, equilibratory action goes on under the French 
 '* currency law, and tends to maintain gold and silver more steady 
 " in value than they would otherwise be. 
 
 *' Imagine two reservoirs of water, each subject to variations 
 " of supply and demand. In the absence of any connecting pipe 
 " the level of the water in each reservoir will be subject to its 
 *' own fluctuations merely, but if we open a connection, the water 
 " in both will assume a certain mean level, and the effect of any 
 " excessive supply or demand will be distributed over the whole 
 " area of both reservoirs." 
 
 From this it will be seen that the more serious of the 
 monometallists admit the superior steadiness of the bimetallic 
 system. 
 
 One of the objections to bimetallism is that it would 
 vitiate contracts and alter prices. I have shown that in 
 these respects w^e cannot shut ourselves up in our insular 
 security. There is no " silver streak " in commerce ; prices 
 have been disordered by German demonetisation, and the 
 perfection of the English system no longer carries with 
 it the success which was supposed to attend it. Prince 
 Bismarck, who administers the affairs of Germany, and who 
 adopts the traditional policy of Frederick the Great, to 
 attain the glory by following every road w^hich leads to it, 
 desired to confer upon his country something of the com- 
 mercial supremacy of England. He believed, or rather his 
 economical advisers believed, that the metropolitan position 
 of England in commerce was due to her single gold 
 standard, and not to her vast capital, her ships and colonies, 
 and her industrial resources. He acted on this opinion, and 
 widespread ruin has been the consequence. 
 
 Giving full credit to Lord Liverpool for the perfection 
 of his treatise and for the completeness of his system, I am 
 
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 led to examine, as he would have done, under what circum- 
 stances his so-called infallible dogma originated. His letter 
 was written when England was struggling for existence 
 with the rest of the civilised world, and in like manner, in 
 the reign of King William the Third, when Locke was 
 writing, England was engaged in a war for the defence of 
 the liberties and independence of mankind, and neither of 
 these writers had any idea of cosmopolitan agreement upon 
 such matters. 
 
 What Lord Liverpool said was, that in a given country 
 it was better to have a single metal made into coins, which 
 should be the standard of value and national legal tender, 
 but he cites as an example of that necessity the practice 
 of the commercial states and countries on the Continent 
 making foreign bills of exchange, and sometimes other bills 
 exceeding a certain amount, payable in what is usually 
 called bank money. 
 
 Now this important example is to me the most telling 
 argument which can be used in favour of bimetallism by 
 agreement. That bank money which is described by 
 Lord Liverpool as being a necessity in Venice, Genoa, 
 Amsterdam, and Hamburg in past days, seems to me to be 
 more required in London than in any place in the civilised 
 globe. London is now to the world what all those places 
 put together were in other days, and if we strip the 
 bimetallic discussion of all extraneous matter, I should be 
 content to see it argued upon the question of whether bank 
 money could not be made of two metals, either of which 
 would pay a bill of exchange. 
 
 If silver were money nowhere, either in the Latin 
 Union, India, Russia, China, or America, it would certainly 
 be better that all things should be reckoned by the London 
 gold standard; but as it is a fact that several of these 
 countries are wholly silver, that the United States is 
 trembling in the balance, and that Italy is desirous of 
 resuming cash payments in the best possible metal, we 
 
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 have to face, as usual in this nether world, the facts as 
 they stand, and not as we wish them to be. And this is 
 precisely what Lord Liverpool did. He examined care- 
 fully and exhaustively every fact of past history, and 
 surveyed every circumstance which suiTOunded him, and 
 his decisions are based upon those facts and upon his 
 personal experience. Viewed in this light, his term of 
 bank money as an expression for convention currency is of 
 paramount importance to the discussion. He described 
 this bank money as being used to pay bills of exchange in 
 certain limited places, and the necessity for it arose from 
 the debased state of the coins in those places, as well as 
 from the variety of them current for ordinary transactions 
 in such centres of commerce, where anything but the 
 payment in a perfect currency would produce great 
 embarrassment in all commercial dealings, and would render 
 the exchange very much against such state or country. 
 
 If then the bank money, that is, gold or silver or 
 receipts for them at a fixed relative value, is the same in 
 New York, Frankfort, Vienna, Rome, Paris, and London, 
 and is of a greater certainty and more steady in its value 
 as regards the mass of commodities than either gold or 
 silver separately, then such bank money would approach 
 more nearly the ideal standard of Lord Liverpool than 
 gold bank money alone. 
 
 But Mr. Jevons himself has demonstrated that although 
 the variations of the two precious metals measured in 
 commodities would be perhaps more frequent, they would 
 be less violent, and seeing that w^e have the example of 
 France before us, where a single bimetallic country not 
 only obeyed the above law, but actually kept the relative 
 prices between the precious metals themselves without any 
 important change, how can it be doubted that if the 
 transactions of all Europe, the United States, and India 
 were added to those of France, the functions of bank 
 money could safely be entrusted to both gold and silver ? 
 
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 Measuring the value of Lord Liverpool's doctrine and 
 his matchless treatise, we must not forget who and what 
 Lord Liverpool was. He was an official mainly occupied 
 with the phenomena which he watched from an official 
 standpoint, and, though practically conversant with almost 
 every branch of official life, he had no real knowledge of 
 the cosmopolitan commercial machinery which it is our 
 business now to discuss. 
 
 Monometallists seem to think that the subject has 
 received its last touch from Lord Liverpool's mind. 
 Against his authority I cannot help quoting that of 
 Alexander Baring, first Lord Ashburton, who lived a 
 generation later than Lord Liverpool. He had perhaps 
 the largest and most complete experience of affiiirs of every 
 kind, except military affairs, of any man of his day. 
 Before he was forty he was the confidential intermediary 
 between Napoleon and the English Government, and 
 shortly afterwards he Avas the rival of the first Rothschild 
 in financial operations. Subsequently he was the Cabinet 
 friend of Peel and Wellington, and he finished his career 
 by a treaty with America, which still goes by his name. 
 
 I find that he gave evidence in 1828 as to the con- 
 sequences which had followed a blind adherence to Lord 
 Liverpool's doctrines, in which he said — 
 
 " he had always thought that it was possible and desirable to 
 " manitain in this country a silver currency as a legal tender 
 ** founded on the proportion of silver to gold established in the 
 ** currency of France, or something very near it." 
 
 And he gives as a reason for that opinion — 
 
 " that a sudden change from peace to war, a bad harvest or a 
 " panic year arising from over-trading and other causes, imposes 
 '* upon the Bank of England, which is the heart of all our 
 " circulation, the necessity, for the purpose of protecting itself, 
 *' to stop the egress of specie, sometimes even to bring in large 
 " quantities into the country. 
 Mr. H, R. Grcnfell, 
 
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 " Now it is evident that the Bank wishing to reinforce its 
 ** snpply of specie can do so with infinitely increased facility 
 " with the power of either drawing in gold or silver than if it 
 ** were confined to only one of the metals." 
 
 These opinions of Lord Ashburton were given -without 
 any wish to stir in the matter, but merely as a contribution 
 to the mass of knowledge in the possession of the Govern- 
 ment on the subject. 
 
 It may now be well to notice some of the objections 
 that have been made by those who have frankly admitted 
 the superior steadiness of the proposed system over that 
 now in existence. I will take those which seem to me to 
 be perhaps the most important. 
 
 One is that it is a direct attempt to force the stream 
 backwards ; that the tendency of all the wealthier and more 
 civilised nations of the world is towards a monometallic 
 gold standard, the superiority of w^hich is so clearly estab- 
 lished by the commercial supremacy of that country which 
 for a long time was the only one which had succeeded in 
 enforcing it ; that it is idle and impossible to attempt any 
 arrangement founded on another system ; that as the 
 experiment made to force silver dollars into use in the 
 United States has failed and might fail under a convention, 
 it is possible that payments in gold might be made a point 
 of commercial honour. 
 
 A great many things are possible, but as it has never 
 been found that in commerce or in any other profession 
 people pay more as a point of honour than they are bound 
 to do, and as all payments are made, -with the exception of 
 unimportant balances, by paper currency, book transfers, or 
 cheques, it must be clear to every one that that metal or 
 those metals which are the legal security for the ultimate 
 payment of papers in various countries would be the founda- 
 tion of all legal as well as honourable payment. 
 
 I confess, then, that I am not alarmed at this objection. 
 It is founded, without doubt, upon a review of what has 
 
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 taken place in the United States in the eagerness which her 
 citizens have displayed to seize the foremost place both as 
 to national and commercial credit. 
 
 Another objection made by a very able writer is that, 
 whatever may be the evils connected with the depreciation of 
 prices and the depression of trade in England, the damage 
 done to India by the fall in the exchanges is wholly 
 imaginary. He states that it " is political economy of the 
 " most elementary description, that the low rate of exchange 
 " ruling between England and India has the effect of 
 " checking exports to India, and of stimulating imports 
 *^ thence, and that this is precisely what is wanted if India 
 " is to pay her obligations here in any shape, and that 
 " without such fall in the exchange her financial straits 
 " would be much worse than they are." 
 
 There is some truth in this assertion, but then it is 
 utterly incompatible with the arguments generally used by 
 the monometallists, that to raise the value of silver and to 
 depreciate that of gold to their old ratio would inflict a loss 
 upon gold-using countries and confer a great benefit upon 
 those using silver. 
 
 One writer has estimated the loss of England by such a 
 transaction as £8,000,000 on her stock of gold, and the 
 profit of France on her stock of silver as £ 16,000,000. 
 
 Nothing can show more clearly the divergence of 
 opinions held by monometallists as to the practical effect 
 of the carrying out of their doctrines to their legitimate 
 conclusion than these two surmises, made by equally 
 competent thinkers and writers. 
 
 The next objection which I am bound to notice is the 
 fear which exists in the minds of monometallists as to what 
 would happen in time of war. We are told that a war- 
 making nation would necessarily break the convention and 
 refuse free minting : that is to say, that if Kussia or Chili 
 go to war and issue a forced paper currency, this act would 
 be in breach of the bimetallic convention, 
 
 Mr. //. R. GrenfelU 
 
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 Now, what really happens on such an event taking place 
 is that a belligerent nation does not increase the volume of 
 its own currency by using pieces of paper instead of metal, 
 but by exporting its own metal it increases the volume of 
 the currency in the world at large. Its pieces of paper 
 being discredited, it is obliged to use the precious metals 
 for the payment of everything to be bought abroad, and for 
 its belligerent operations, and it can and does enforce upon 
 its subjects the duty of receiving and paying in pieces of 
 paper at home. 
 
 The monometallist seems to imagine that at the same 
 moment when a belligerent is by a natural process exporting 
 its precious metals, some other country or body of merchants, 
 either from mere curiosity or from a desire to test the 
 convention, would send precious metals back into that 
 belligerent country and have them minted. This proposition 
 is so absurd that it need only be stated clearly to secure its 
 refutation. 
 
 The issue of paper by a belligerent would have, under a 
 bimetallic convention, precisely the same effect which it has 
 now. The explanation of the operation would, however, 
 lead me into a too lengthy paper. I content myself, then, 
 with stating my belief that the temporary effect of war and 
 of forced paper currencies would be somewhat the same as 
 a large discovery of the precious metals, and would be 
 spread over a larger surface and more evenly under an 
 international bimetallic convention than with the present 
 separate national standards. 
 
 Having answered some of the most recent objections 
 started to bimetallism, I approach the consideration of 
 certain remedies which have been suggested in substitution 
 of it. One proposal is to permit the raising of the limit of 
 legal currency of silver coin to five pounds, instead of two 
 pounds as at present. Considering that any one may, if he 
 like it, pay forty shillings in discharge of a debt, and that, 
 as far as my experience goes, it is never done, it is highly 
 
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 improbable that anyone would dream of carrying about 
 sums of two, three, or four pounds in his pocket in silver 
 for the purpose of vindicating the rights of that beautiful 
 metal. 
 
 Another plan is to issue twenty or thirty millions of one- 
 pound notes, of which twenty might be on securities. Thus 
 we find men who are aghast at the notion of a currency 
 which, though it does not rest upon gold alone, is yet founded 
 upon a metallic basis quite ready to increase the circulation 
 by emitting a large amount of paper, having no tangible 
 metallic basis at all. If this proposition means anything, 
 it means that in England, as is now the case in Ireland and 
 Scotland, every one would use one-pound notes instead of 
 sovereigns. Those who are in favour of this proposition 
 would do well to read the chapter in Lord Liverpool on 
 paper currency, in which he says : — 
 
 " It is certain that the smaller notes of the Bank of Ensrland, 
 " and those issued by country bankers, have supphmted the gold 
 " coins, usurped their functions, and driven a great part of them 
 " out of circulation: in some parts of Great Britain, and especially 
 " in the southern parts of Ireland, small notes have been issued 
 " to supply the place of silver coins, of which there is certainly 
 " a great deficiency. 
 
 " I will first observe, that if this practice is suffered to con- 
 " tinue, as at present, without any limitation, there can be neither 
 " use nor advantage in converting bullion of either of the precious 
 ** metals into coins, except so far as it may serve for the conveni- 
 " ence of your Majesty's subjects in their most private concerns ; 
 " that is, no greater quantity than many of the writers who have 
 " of late speculated on this subject will allow to continue in 
 " currency : the bullion of which these coins are made had better 
 " be exported in its natural state, like any other unmanufactured 
 *' commodity, for the use of which the trade of the country has 
 " no occasion. The coins of your Majesty when earned into 
 " foreign countries, will only be valued as bullion ; and the pre- 
 " cious metals, whether exported in coins or in bullion, will 
 
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 " equally servo the purpose of a commercial capital ; and it is 
 " useless and absurd to impose upon the public the expense of 
 *' making coins, merely for the purpose of sending them out of 
 " the kingdom." 
 
 I have now endeavoured to show that international 
 bimetallism would be in accordance with the opinions and 
 principles of some of those who are looked up to by 
 economical writers with profound and deserved veneration ; 
 that Sir Robert Peel admitted bimetallism to be in accord- 
 ance with the principle of the metallic standard ; that 
 Lord Ashburton had good reason for thinking that it would 
 have the effect of facilitating the return to commercial 
 calm after ordinary stormy weather ; and that the views 
 of Lord Liverpool as to the value of bank money would 
 be more nearly acted upon by creating an international 
 measure of value than by adhering to a separate national 
 standard. 
 
 The most singular part of the whole controversy is that 
 both this country and the United States seem to have 
 abolished the silver element in their standard accidentally. 
 
 It has already been shown that in 1819 the question of 
 silver hardly found, a place in the resumption discussion 
 in England, and with regard to the United States, Mr. 
 Groesbeck, the delegate of that country at the conference 
 of 1878, stated that the demonetisation of silver in 1873 was 
 passed " through inadvertence," and on being asked what 
 he meant by it he said that it had occurred when the Govern- 
 ment was in a state of suspension, and when public attention 
 was not sufficiently directed to the subject, and further that 
 a number of members of Congress had confessed to him 
 that they had not known what they were doing. 
 
 The Conference of Paris has now been adjourned till 
 the 30th of June, in order that the delegates may receive 
 fresh instructions. The opinions of most of the govern- 
 ments were already so well known that, beyond bringing 
 
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 tKe questions at issue into a still more definite and con- 
 densed shape than they were before, there is little fresh to 
 remark upon except the important propositions made on 
 behalf of the Indian Government by Sir Louis Mallet, and 
 by Baron de Thielmann on behalf of Germany. 
 
 The former is simply a promise not to demonetise silver. 
 The German proposition is founded on the admission that 
 £87,000,000 of gold had been coined, that £54,000,000 of 
 silver had been demonetised, and that the expenses of this 
 operation had amounted to £2,200,000, while ^25,000,000 
 of silver still remains in Germany. 
 
 To enable those countries where silver had not been 
 demonetised to carry out the reforms which the Conference 
 had met to consider, the German Empire is willing to 
 abstain from all sales of silver for a fixed period, and to 
 confine itself afterwards to such a limited amount as would 
 not encumber the general market. 
 
 Thalers might be forbidden to be sent to the mints of 
 the bimetallic union, or those mints might refuse to take 
 them, so as to make the operation of selling them too 
 costly. 
 
 Germany would also be willing to recall the gold pieces 
 of five marks, and the treasury notes of the same value, and 
 to re-issue five and two mark pieces to the amount of about 
 £8,000,000, taking as a base a ratio between the two metals 
 as near as possible to 15^ instead of that which, according 
 to the present law, equals a ratio of about 1 to 14. 
 
 Having heard the above propositions from Germany, 
 the energies of the Conference were devoted on the 
 one hand to the persuasion of the English delegates to 
 make some concessions, and on the other to induce 
 France and the United States to proceed to a practical 
 solution in case England should be unwilling to accede to 
 their wishes. 
 
 It would be obviously improper for me to offer any 
 opinions of the projects submitted or to be submitted to 
 
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 our Government in furtherance of the common object 
 which all parties have in view — namely, the steadying of 
 the prices of the precious metals in relation to commodities. 
 
 In this discussion my wish has been to keep clear from 
 anything like zeal and enthusiasm. I am absolutely without 
 any prejudice in the matter, and I have confined myself, in 
 the evidence I have quoted, with the exception of that of 
 Lord Ashburton, to the facts honestly brought out by those 
 from whom I differ, so that I may say that the small bias 
 Avhich exists in my mind upon the subject is almost entirely 
 due to the study of my opponents' opinions. 
 
 If, then, I am forced to- answer the question " What 
 " is a pound ? " I incline to answer it in the words of 
 Sir Robert Peel — namely, that we ought to return to " the 
 *^ ancient standard of the realm," or, as the Americans call 
 it, "the dollar of our fathers," rather than to adhere to 
 the measure carried by that statesman, and founded upon 
 Lord Liverpool's letter. 
 
 H. R. GEENFELL. 
 
IS THE VALUE OF GOLD AND 
 SILVER MONEY ARTIFICIAL ? 
 
 To the Editor of nie Th)ws*—Msij 7, 1881, 
 
 Sir, — Gold and silver have real and artificial values — 
 real and natural, as for gilding, for use in surgical appli- 
 ance, forks, spoons, and other things; artificial, for money, 
 for circulating mediums. Owing to their real and natural 
 value and the easy way in which that value can be stamped 
 on them, and other considerations, every civilized nation 
 takes gold and silver as representatives of value, and uses 
 one or both metals as its money or circulating medium. 
 
 This artificial value is much greater than the real. If 
 some substitute for gold and silver were found which could 
 be used more advantageously as money and displace them, 
 their exchangeable values would be vastly less than at 
 present. That is, if an ounce of gold exchanges for two 
 quarters of w^heat now anywhere, it would, if it ceased to 
 be used as money, exchange for much less — how much, is 
 beyond speculation. New uses would be found for the two 
 metals as they became cheaper, and they might retain a 
 considerable proportion of their exchangeable value. 
 
 But does it not follow from the value of these metals 
 being mainly of this artificial character and used mainly 
 
 * Tliese Letters, by tlie Right Hon. Lord Bramwell, IMr. T. H. FaiTer, 
 Mr. H. H. Gibbs, Mr. H. D, Macleod. and M. Cemuschi, are reprinted 
 from The Times. 
 
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 by few consumers, that their value relative to each other 
 can be kept practically at a definite ratio ? 
 
 If all the Governments of the world determine that they 
 will give " A " ounces of gold for " B " ounces of silver 
 and " B " ounces of silver for " A " ounces of gold, and no 
 more nor less, will not '' A " ounces of gold always be worth 
 "B" of silver? 
 
 For suppose, it having been so determined, very pro- 
 ductive gold mines, as they are called, are discovered, what 
 will happen? 
 
 This : the less productive gold mines will cease to be 
 worked, and the less productive silver. There will be more 
 gold and less silver. For suppose the same labour and 
 capital before the discovery of the new mines produced 
 *' A " ounces in gold and " B " ounces in silver, no rent 
 being paid, better mines of each metal paying rents where 
 more of either was produced, and suppose, owing to the 
 discovery, the capital and labour which produced "A" 
 ounces in gold produces five-fourths " A" ounces in gold, 
 paying no rent, all gold mines producing less will cease to 
 be worked, and all silver mines producing less than five- 
 fourths " B " ounces of silver. Of coiu-se, not at once nor 
 immediately, but in time, in the long run. 
 
 The same thing would be true if the discovery were 
 of new mines of silver. The same also would be true if 
 either metal became more difficult of production from 
 exhaustion of the mine. So that if gold mines became 
 productive we should have more gold money, if silver 
 mines more silver money. It will be asked what would 
 happen, if, for example, gold became so abundant that 
 no silver mine could be worked at the same ratio — 
 e. g,, if twice " A " ounces of gold could be got for the 
 labour and capital formerly required to get " A " ounces 
 and no silver mine would for that capital and labour 
 produce twice " B " ounces ? 
 
 One answer to the case supposed is, that it is impossible. 
 Lord Bramwcll. 
 
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 Another is, that if it were possible, we should in time have 
 all gold money. A third is, that after a time the gold 
 mines would be exhausted and silver would come in again. 
 The same reasoning is true if silver increased in productive- 
 ness. The world would have a period of heavy, clumsy 
 money. But the thing is impossible. 
 
 I have suggested this would be true if all civilized 
 nations would agree to the ratio of "A" to " B," or any 
 other. But would it not also be true if the greater part of 
 them would — the great consumers of the two articles, the 
 great minters: all Europe and America, perhaps, without 
 England ? 
 
 It may be asked. Could they make gold and silver of 
 equal value, or gold 50 times the value of silver? I am not 
 sure ; I doubt it. I should think they must adopt a ratio 
 as near that of the cost of production as can be arrived at. 
 But this may be shown. The relation of value of the two 
 metals, both being money, must be between the relations of 
 value they would have to one another if each were exclu- 
 sively money. For suppose gold, and gold only, is used for 
 money, and that silver is produced to supply the demand 
 for the use for purposes other than money. Suppose that 
 being so, that one ounce of gold equals " A " ounces of 
 silver ; next suppose silver the only metal used for money, 
 and that then one ounce of gold equals " B " ounces of 
 silver, " B " will obviously be less — less in number — than 
 «^ A" — that is to say, gold will exchange for less silver when 
 silver alone is money than when gold alone is. Now, 
 suppose an attempt is made to use both metals as money, 
 and it is determined that for this purpose one ounce of gold 
 shall equal " C " ounces of silver, " C " in amount in number 
 must be between "A" and " B." 
 
 For the use of gold for ordinary purposes would cause it 
 to be absorbed at the rate of one ounce equal "B"; and if 
 " C " is less than " B " no gold will be taken to the Mint; 
 on the contrary, gold in circulation would be withdrawn 
 
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 and melted down. So if ^^ C " is more than "A" no silver 
 would even be minted. 
 
 It may be asked, could iron or copper be dealt with in 
 this way — i, e,, a fixed ratio established between them ? I 
 say no ; nor beef and mutton. Their values are not at all 
 artificial, but wholly natural ; and the consumers could not 
 be got to agree on a ratio. 
 
 Is not bimetallism then a possibility? It would be 
 attended with this consequence — if either metal or both 
 became more abundant, the exchangeable value of both, 
 not inter se, but in relation to other commodities, would be 
 lowered. If either or both became less abundant, the ex- 
 changeable value of both, not hiter se, but in relation to 
 other commodities, would be raised. The world, therefore, 
 would have its circulating medium liable to more frequent 
 fluctuations in value than if it was monometallic. On the 
 other hand, as both gold and silver would be raised or lowered 
 at the same time, those fluctuations would be less in extent. 
 The cause of change would be spread over a larger area. 
 
 If bimetallism is adopted, the ratio of gold and silver 
 apparently should be 1 to 15^, for the reasons given by 
 M. Cernuschi in his last pamphlet — viz., it is practically 
 the ratio of the world; the ratio or nearly of four five- 
 franc pieces to the napoleon, of thalers to marks in gold, 
 of rupee to sovereign, and so on. If a higher ratio were 
 adopted — say, one of gold to 20 of silver — some silver 
 mines would be abandoned ; if lower — say, one to ten — 
 some gold mines Avould be. It might, however, be worth 
 while to see what could be said to some other ratio. If 
 this ratio, 15 J to 1, was adopted, gold would fall in value 
 and silver would rise. For the circulating medium would 
 be made up of both metals instead of one, as it is now 
 throughout Europe. For Europe is either monometallic 
 in gold or bimetallic with silver when coined, appreciated 
 by a limitation of the coinage. But it is obvious that if 
 two metals are used for the circulating medium instead of 
 
 Lord BramwelL 
 
135 
 
 one, and the added metal is appreciated, the other will be 
 depreciated. 
 
 Supposing bimetallism established, what good would it 
 do to the world ? I have shown it would make fluctuations 
 less in extent, but more frequent. Would this be a benefit 
 on balance ? Some people suppose that because there would 
 be more money the world would be better off. An utter 
 mistake. It might as well be said that the world would be 
 richer if bank-notes were printed on larger pieces of paper. 
 It is a paradox, but the world has enough money and so 
 has every country. 
 
 Suppose by some magic all the gold coins and all the 
 silver, and all the bullion were doubled in size, what would 
 be the effect ? The world would be richer, because it would 
 have more of an article of real value and could afford to 
 turn more of its coin or bullion into spoons, &c. ; but, 
 allowing for that, the quarter of wheat which sold for £ 2 
 would still sell for £2, only each sovereign would be twice 
 as big as before. Similarly, if by some magic all coin and 
 bullion was made half as big only as it was, some gold 
 and silver would be turned into coin; but, allowing for 
 that, prices would be the same. 
 
 The truth is, the world uses gold and silver as circulat- 
 ing medium, only taking from it so much for other purposes 
 as it is worth while to take. It does not make its saucepans 
 of silver, because people would rather have what can be 
 got by the material turned into money than have silver 
 saucepans. So of each country. It parts with its precious 
 metals to foreigners for something it values more, where by 
 so doing it has raised their value it retains them. Scarcity 
 of money rarely means scarcity of coin or bullion. No 
 doubt the discovery of new and productive mines is a good 
 thing for the country where they are and a great stimulus 
 to trade and movement, but a very doubtful good to the 
 world at large, perhaps even a harm. For it takes its 
 capital and industry from the production of what the world 
 
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 wants to the production of what it does not want. If it 
 were discovered that hammering gold for 24 hours doubled 
 its size and weight, there would be a great deal of hammer- 
 ing and a great deal more gold; but the world, instead of 
 being richer, would be very much poorer. 
 
 But then it is said that the burden of national debts 
 and other obligations would be less than with a mono- 
 metallic circulation of gold. Certainly. So it would be 
 if the sovereign was alloyed with half silver. So it would 
 be by any other contrivance that wronged the creditor. 
 It is strange that they who advocate bimetallism on this 
 ground do not see they are advocating wronging the 
 creditor. 
 
 True it is that gold is appreciated at this time, at least 
 I believe so ; but the creditor runs the risk of its being 
 depreciated. Why is he not to have the benefit of his 
 bargain to be paid in gold, because that is appreciated ? 
 But then it is said, " See how the demonetization of silver 
 " by Germany has lowered its value, and what will happen if 
 " Germany goes on with the process and demonetizes its 
 " thalers, and if France does the same with its silver ? " 
 Silver will fall to half its present value or less. Perhaps, 
 and this furnishes an excellent reason why nations with a 
 stock of silver should be bimetallic, or monometallic with 
 silver ; but, at the same time, it furnishes an equally strong 
 one for a nation with a stock of gold like England not to 
 be so. If bimetallism is adopted at the ratio of 1 to 15J, 
 silver will rise in value as compared with gold, say, in 
 round figures, from 52 to 60, or about 16 per cent. I say 
 as compared with gold, not generally, because gold, as I 
 have shown, will fall in exchangeable value with other 
 things. 
 
 Let us halve the percentage and say that the real fall 
 in the value of gold is 8 per cent., the rise in silver 8 ]ier 
 cent. Suppose we have a stock of gold of £100,000,000. 
 We lose £8,000,000. The French, it is supposed, I 
 
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 believe, have £ 200,000,000 of silver ; they gain £ 1 6,000,000. 
 The Bank of France would be straightway £4,000,000 
 richer. 
 
 But it is said " consider India. That country has a vast 
 " stock of silver which would be appreciated." I doubt 
 it. I doubt if the depreciation has reached there. The 
 thing is most mysterious. Great mistakes are made about 
 India. People talk of a loss by the Indian exchange. 
 That is wrong. A loss by exchange is always of small 
 amount and temporary character, and is a loss on gold 
 against gold, or silver against silver. It is no more a loss 
 by exchange than it would be if India paid its tribute to 
 us in silk, and silk would not fetch as much in the European 
 market as formerly. A loss by exchange ought never to be 
 greater than freight, insurance, and other expenses. 
 
 This is not a question of words, but of substance. India 
 has to pay us so much in gold. It may buy that gold here, 
 or at home, or anywhere else. The thing it has to buy 
 gold with is silver. The same silver would not buy as 
 much as it would formerly. India, therefore, has to find 
 more silver. If silver has not fallen in price and India 
 exacts more from its taxpayers, it adds to the tax on them ; 
 otherwise if silver has so fallen, for then the taxpayer would 
 get more silver for the same produce of indigo, rice, or 
 wheat. They would have risen in price. But it is said 
 they have not. If so, the depreciation of silver has not 
 reached India. Still, it cannot be denied that in time it 
 must. In time the stock of silver in India will be of less 
 value, and India, to have enough money, must deprive 
 itself of things which it has, and so be a loser. It must 
 export more, as Mr. Bagehot showed. Is it worth England's 
 while, then, to forward bimetallism ? It is said it will be 
 done without us. Perhaps, but should we help ? 
 
 In considering the question, the effect of the change on 
 debtors and creditors should be borne in mind. It is, 
 perhaps, incorrect to say that the creditor would be wronged. 
 
188 
 
 He has bargained for payment in gold, and will be paid in 
 gold or what will purchase that gold, and there has been no 
 bargain with him not to improve the currency by making 
 it bimetallic. But would it be just to make it bimetallic, 
 not to improve the currency, but to diminish the burden of 
 debt? 
 
 B. 
 
 (BEAMWELL.) 
 
 April 2^, 1881. 
 
 To the Editor of The Times.— Kaj 21, 1881. 
 
 Sir, — May I be allowed to appeal to history on a sub- 
 ject which is generally treated as a matter of scientific 
 deduction, and to state one or two matters of fact which 
 appear to me to have an important bearing on this question? 
 The arguments put forward in favour of bimetallism con- 
 stantly assume that the value of gold and silver coin is 
 artificial. Value, it is justly said, depends on supply and 
 demand ; if either of these is within the absolute control of 
 law, law can, it is said, regulate values. The supply of the 
 precious metals is admitted not to be within the control of 
 law. But it is alleged or assumed that the demand for 
 gold and silver coinage is a matter which depends upon and 
 is regulated by law. It is the use of coin as money which 
 creates the demand for it ; and it is the Government wliich 
 says what shall constitute money. The action of Govern- 
 ment, therefore, gives money its value ; and if all Govern- 
 ments agree, they can, at least, go so far in determining 
 the value of money as to fix the ratio of value between 
 gold and silver money. 
 
 Such, as I understand it, is the contention, and the 
 question I wish to ask is whether the history of our own 
 Mr. T. II, Farrcr, 
 
139 
 
 coinage bears out this view; and for this purpose I will 
 refer shortly to the facts of that history as given in the 
 first Lord Liverpool's well-known letter on the coins of 
 the realm. 
 
 It is imnecessary to go back fiirther than the reigns of 
 Charles II. and James II. At that time silver had for 
 centnries been the money of account and the standard of 
 value. Gold coins had from time to time been introduced, 
 and eiforts had been made by different kings to determine 
 the relative values of the gold and silver coin. But these 
 efforts were unsuccessful; the attempt to determine these 
 values had been abandoned, and at the time of the Revolu- 
 tion of 1688 silver alone was the money of account and 
 legal tender. Gold guineas were issued and were in use, 
 but there was no law fixing the price or value of the gold 
 coin; and the guinea, which was originally supposed to be 
 equal to- 20^. in silver, circulated at the value in silver 
 which the people chose to give for it, and rose in value as 
 the value of gold rose. 
 
 In the early years of William III.'s reign the silver 
 coins had become clipped and defective to the extent of 
 nearly half their weight ; prices at home and exchanges 
 abroad were thrown into confusion ; the evil became in- 
 sufferable ; and at last, under the guidance of Montagu and 
 by the advice of Locke, the old silver coinage was called 
 in and good silver coins were issued, at a loss to the nation 
 of about £3,000,000. It was expected, on the faith of 
 theories which, taken by themselves, were perfectly sound, 
 that things would return to their previous condition ; that 
 silver, being the money of account of the country, or, as 
 we should term it, legal tender, would resume its place ; 
 and that the gold coin, to which no definite value was 
 attached by law, and which was not legal tender for the 
 payment of debts, would circulate, if at all, at a price in 
 silver corresponding to the value of gold in the market. 
 But none of these things happened. The newly-coined 
 
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 silver was exported; little or no fresh silver was brought 
 to the Mint to be coined; the gold guineas took the place 
 of the silver coinage, and continued to circulate at a price, 
 in silver, higher than the intrinsic or market value of the 
 gold contained in them. They did this without any law 
 fixing their value, and in spite of the law which made silver 
 the legal tender and money of account. In spite of law, 
 in spite of deficiency of intrinsic market value, people 
 preferred the gold coins, and kept to them. The guinea 
 had become a token coin, not by law, but by habit and 
 inclination. Lord Liverpool says (p. 92): — 
 
 *' The high rate of the gold coins to which the people then 
 " voluntarily submitted can only be ascribed to the preference 
 " which at that time began to be given to the use of gold coins in 
 " all payments, at least of considerable amount. It is evident 
 " that during the late re-coinage the common people had become 
 " accustomed to the use of the gold coins, and the reason which 
 " induced them still to prefer them was, perhaps, the convenience 
 " of making large payments in coins of that metal. This change 
 " from what had been the case in the reign of Charles II. was 
 " probably owing to the great increase in the commerce of the 
 *' country, and to an augmentation in the price of every commodity, 
 " so that payments in general required coins made of the most 
 " valuable metals. The fact certainly is that from this period the 
 " gold coins began to take the ascendency, and to become the more 
 ** usual instrument of commerce and measure of property, in pre- 
 " ference to the silver coins. In the reign of King William, when 
 " the silver coins were so very deficient, Mr. Locke had said : — ' It is 
 *' ' no wonder if the prices and value of things be confounded and 
 " 'uncertain when the measure itself is lost.' To restore this 
 " measure the public had expended £2,700,000. But, notwith- 
 ** standing so great an expense, this measure of property in the 
 " lapse of a very few years was a second time lost, and had again 
 " no existence unless it had passed into the gold coin." 
 
 In this state of things the Government of George I., on 
 the advice of Sir Isaac Newton, determined to fix by law 
 ^/r. T. II, Farrer, 
 
141 
 
 the value of the gold guinea, wishing apparently to prevent 
 the exportation of the silver coin. They did not, however, 
 reduce it from 21^. 6d., the then current value, to 20^. 6d., 
 the actual value, but only to 2ls., leaving it still above the 
 market value of the coin in silver. The effect was to con- 
 firm the tendency of the people to pay in gold coins, and 
 gold has ever since, by law as well as habit, been the current 
 money of the country. Silver coins ceased to be used in 
 large transactions; various statutes, commencing in 1774, 
 deprived it of its character of legal tender, except for pay- 
 ments of small amount, and it was ultimately reduced to its 
 present condition of a token coinage. 
 
 The interesting point in this history is to see that we 
 have obtained our present gold coinage, not by law, but to 
 a great extent in spite of law; that law was powerless to 
 force upon the country a currency which it did not want, 
 but all-powerful when it followed and stereotyped the prac- 
 tice of a people ; that this practice was suggested by 
 motives of convenience and inclination differing from and 
 counteracting the motives which arose from a mere con- 
 sideration of market values ; and that, even in such a matter 
 as currency, speculations founded on the effect of law, or 
 even on mere considerations of value, have been and are 
 likely to be at fault unless corrected by a careful con- 
 sideration of special wants and circumstances. 
 
 Political economists ought to be well satisfied with these 
 results. They illustrate and confirm the position that the 
 value of coined money is, like that of other things, a ques- 
 tion of supply and demand; and it depends on human wants 
 and habits ; and that if law is to be effectual, it must follow 
 and consult these wants and habits; in other words, that 
 the value of gold and silver money is at bottom '' natural," 
 just as other values are natural. 
 
 These words will not have been useless if they call 
 attention to Lord Liverpool's celebrated letter, republished 
 last year by the Governors of the Bank. The way in 
 
142 
 
 which he collects and states actual facts before generalizing 
 from them, and in which he corrects logical deductions by 
 reference to experience, may well afford a valuable lesson 
 to many modem economists, and especially to those advo- 
 cates of currency reform who appear to think that they 
 have solved a practical question when they have stated it 
 in the clear and definite form of an algebraical problem, 
 and who prophesy the results of their schemes with as much 
 confidence as if they were getting out the values of a: andy. 
 What the effects of bimetallism would really be I will not 
 venture to say, but I will venture to say that they are much 
 more doubtful than its advocates suppose. 
 
 F. 
 
 (T. H. FARRER.) 
 
 I 
 
 To the Editor of The Times.— Kay 26, 1881. 
 
 Sir, — Your correspondent " F.," in The Times of 
 yesterday, says that the value of gold and silver money is 
 at bottom natural, as other values are natural, and that it 
 depends, not on law, but on wants and habits. 
 
 Permit me to observe that the facts quoted by him in 
 proof of his statement really turn against him. " F." 
 says : — 
 
 " The Government of George I., on the advice of Sir Isaac 
 " Newton, determined to fix by law the value of the gold guinea, 
 " wishing to prevent the exportation of silver coin. They did not, 
 ** however, reduce it from 2\s. 6d., the then current vahic, to 
 " 205. 6d., the actual value, but only to 2ls., leaving it still above 
 " the market value of the coin in silver." 
 
 Now, this so-called market value was nothing else than 
 the legal ratio between gold and silver on the Continent, 
 
143 
 
 Had the reduction to 20s. Gd, been made, the exportation 
 of silver would have been prevented and international 
 bimetallism established. Sir Isaac Newton thoroughly ex- 
 plained this matter (see Cobbett's Parliamentary History, 
 vol. vii., 525). The habit of the people as regards coins is 
 nothing else than the inevitable result of a monometallic 
 legislation, or of a difference of ratio between the national 
 bimetallic legislation and a foreign one. 
 
 I am. Sir, yours obediently, 
 
 HENKI CEENUSCHL 
 
 7, Avenue Velasquez, Pare Monceau, 
 Paris, May 22. 
 
 To the Editor of The Times.— May 26, 1881. 
 
 Sir, — A writer in The Times of Saturday, who appends 
 the signature " F." to his very able letter, attacks what he 
 apparently conceives to be a position of the bimetallists — 
 that, whereas it is the use of certain metals as money which 
 gives them their value, and whereas it is the Government 
 which says what shall constitute money, it is the action of 
 Government which gives money its value. But where is 
 the bimetallist who has said that the value of certain metals 
 springs entirely from their use as money ? 
 
 It is true that the use of a metal as money, like any 
 other use which may be discovered for it, gives additional 
 value to that metal, but, speaking as a bimetallist, I deny 
 that the money-metals have no value but w^hat the action 
 of Government gives. But it is true that the greater part 
 of the value of vofxiajia (money) is given it by vofiog (law), 
 to which it, as Aristotle says, both etymologically and 
 actually owes its origin. 
 
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 It is, as Aristotle again says, consent wMcn establishes 
 its use as money, and law springing from consent. And 
 this is, in fact, the gist of " F.'s " historical argument. 
 Consent, he says, in King William's reign made gold the 
 money of common use in England, and law, beginning in 
 King George's reign, ratified that consent. 
 
 In "F.'s" statement, again, that "the value of gold and 
 " silver money is natural, just as other values are natural," 
 I fully agree. What, then, is the value of silver, for 
 instance, as measured in gold ? That which the market 
 price demonstrates ? Yes, the value at any given moment, 
 but not the value in the abstract. 
 
 What really defines the value of the commodity silver 
 as expressed in the money gold is the cost of production 
 (expressed, for convenience, in terms of that money). But 
 has the cost of production — the real cost, the labour at the 
 mines, altered since 1872, so that the cost of the mass of 
 silver is absolutely less than it was when the market price 
 of the metal was 60c?. an ounce ? Not, I think, in any 
 appreciable degree. 
 
 It may be said, and truly, that by the demonetization 
 of silver a vast mass of the metal has been "produced" — 
 as really produced as if, silver not having been demonetized, 
 a vast increase of mine-yield — such an increase as was 
 vainly predicted of the Comstock Mine — had taken place. 
 So, by this means, the cost of production of the mass is 
 appreciably less. 
 
 That is very true ; but the increased mine-yield would 
 be pei*manent and substantial ; the increase caused by 
 throwing some of the stock of silver out of work is of a 
 very dift'erent character. Demonetization has produced it; 
 remonetization of the metal would in one moment undo 
 what had been done — would un-produce the additional 
 stock ; and then the true measure of the decrease (if any) 
 in the money value of the commodity silver would be the 
 addition to the mass made by the late discoveries in 
 
 Mr. H. H. Gibbs. 
 
145 
 
 America, an addition of no moment when compared Avith 
 the quantity of the pre-existing mass. 
 
 I quite admit " F.'s " suggestion that no agreement 
 between Governments and no law promulgated by any 
 Government for the adoption of a double standard of value 
 can so far affect the matter as to prevent people from 
 making separate bargains to be paid in this or that pre- 
 ferred metal. But, as he shows, it is not the market value 
 (however clearly proved) existing before such an agreement 
 or such a law which would determine its acceptance by the 
 people, and my contention is that, even if there had been 
 some insignificant difference in market value between the 
 two metals, people would soon be tired of making stipula- 
 tions which would prove of no real advantage to them, and 
 that convenience would soon produce that consent which is 
 necessary for permanence. 
 
 It suits, indeed, the argument of the writer of the 
 Money Article in The Times of the 7th inst. in his com- 
 ments on an able letter signed " B." to assume that those 
 who advocate the double standard contend that it is the 
 arbitrary will of princes which gives value to money, and 
 " F.," in his present letter, seems, as I have said, moved to 
 combat some such imagination. But "B.'s" letter said no 
 such thing, nor does any one else so far as I know. 
 
 What I have asserted above is, that the use of silver 
 as money gives additional value to the stock of that metal 
 in existence, just as the use of wool for clothing gives 
 additional value to the stock of wool in existence. If 
 man were suddenly endowed by nature with a coat of fur, 
 the demand for woollen clothing would diminish and the 
 market value of wool would fall. So if another substance 
 — gold — is found more suitable to serve as money than 
 silver is, the demand for silver diminishes and the value of 
 silver falls, and the more so if its value is measured in that 
 metal — gold — of which, by the hypothesis, the value has 
 risen in proportion as the demand has increased. 
 
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146 
 
 'hat demand is the immediate creation of consent anc 
 law (though springing from intrinsic qualities existing, or 
 supposed to exist, in the metals), and it cannot, therefore, 
 be denied that consent and law — sometimes, as "F." shows, 
 consent withotit and even in spite of law — give value to 
 the commodity ; but that differs widely from the belief 
 which the above-mentioned Money Article in The Times 
 attributes to " B." — "that the value of the metals used as 
 " money is wholly artificial and dependent on the will of 
 " Governments." 
 
 In Tlie Times of to-day, again, the writer of the Money 
 Article uses the same kind of method in combating a belief 
 which he attributes to bimetallists, that the adoption of 
 their system will make prices steady. I am not aware 
 that any bimetallist has expressed such a belief. The use 
 of silver and gold as money cannot influence the cost of 
 production of the commodities which they have to measure, 
 and cannot, therefore, make their prices steady or other- 
 wise. What bimetallists assert is that, so far, and only so 
 far, as prices of commodities depend on the greater or less 
 quantity of the mass of money in the world they will be 
 steadier (as Mr. Jevons, himself no bimetallist, clearly 
 shows in his Money and Mechanism of Exchange, p. 138) 
 when two metals form the measure of value than when one 
 forms it. 
 
 Yours faithfully, 
 
 CHRYSARGYROS. ' 
 (HENRY H. GIBBS.) 
 
 May 23. 
 
147 
 
 To the Editor of The Times— M&y 27, 1881. 
 
 Sir, — M. Cernuschi draws strange conclusions from my 
 facts. I sliowed that when the Governrftent attached no 
 vahie to gold, and did all that a Government could do, by 
 law and by good coinage, to attach value to silver, the 
 people of this coimtry rejected the silver and kept the gold, 
 though they had to pay a fancy price for it ; and, further, 
 that the law was then made to follow this practice of the 
 people, by attaching to gold a greater proportionate value 
 than to silver, and that it was then, and not till then, 
 obeyed. 
 
 M. Cernuschi draws the conclusion that if the Govern- 
 ment, instead of following the practice of the people, had 
 attached a higher value to silver, the law would have been 
 obeyed, English people would have kept their silver, and 
 England would now be a bimetallist country. 
 
 My conclusion, if I were to draw one, would be that if 
 the Government had done as M. Cernuschi suggests they 
 might have done, the English people would have disre- 
 garded the law, would have rejected the silver, and would 
 have kept the gold, even if they had had to pay an agio 
 for it. 
 
 But I am not strong in " would have beens." The 
 object of my letter was to draw attention from the " would 
 " he's " and " must be " of which, it seems to me, many 
 bimetallists are too fond, and to direct attention to what 
 " has been " and what " is." 
 
 F. 
 
 (FAEREE.) 
 
 Mai/ 26. 
 
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148 
 
 To the Editor of Tho Times— M&j 28, 1881. 
 
 Sir, — In the. very able letters of " F." in your Satur 
 day's issue and of " Chrysargyros " in your issue of to-day 
 there is some misapprehension of the way in which gold 
 became the sole legal tender in this country, which I 
 request you to allow me to correct. 
 
 Both writers seem to think that gold became sole legal 
 tender by law in the reign of George I. This, however, 
 is an error. 
 
 The real facts are these. Both gold and silver were 
 unlimited le^al tender in the beo:innino: of the last centurv. 
 Guineas were current at 21 5. 6d. But the ratio of the 
 English Mint being different from the ratio of foreign 
 countries great disturbance ensued. On the question being 
 referred to Sir Isaac Newton, he showed that the true 
 value of the guinea was 20^. 8^. But in December, 1717, 
 the guinea was fixed at 2l5. ; and then, in the language of 
 the Mint, the price of gold was fixed at £3 17.<f. lO^d, 
 per ounce. 
 
 Gold and silver continued equally unlimited legal 
 tender ; but gold, being thus overrated by 4(1. on tlie 
 guinea, was gradually adopted by mercantile custom (not 
 law) as the understood medium of payment in the course 
 of the last century. Silver being underrated by law, in 
 accordance with what is now recognized as Gresham's law, 
 all the good silver was exported, and none but worn, 
 clipped, and degraded coin remained in circulation. This 
 became so intolerable that in 1774 an Act was passed 
 limiting legal tender of silver to £25, And so the law 
 remained till the great re-coinage in 1816, when silver, 
 which was then coined as a token, was further reduced to 
 405. as le^al tender. 
 
149 
 
 I regret to sec that " Chrysargyros " still sticks to the 
 exploded cost of production theory of value. Nothing can 
 be more erroneous. To show its fallacy, it is only neces- 
 sary to state the well-known fact that even inconvertible 
 paper may be maintained at the value of gold, if only it 
 is rigorously limited in quantity. In 1874 the inconvertible 
 notes of the Bank of France circulated at par with coin. 
 How could this be if their value depended on cost of 
 production ? Value depends purely on intensity of demand 
 and limitation of supply. 
 
 Your obedient Servant, 
 
 H. D. MACLEOD. 
 
 Oxford and Cambridge Club, 
 May "IQ. 
 
 To the Editor of The Times.— Zmx^q 1, 1881. 
 
 Sir, — In his second letter " F." contends that in re- 
 ducing the legal silver valuation of the gold guinea to 21 5. 
 the Government in 1717 did all that a Government could 
 do. I cannot agree to this. Why could not the same 
 Government reduce the silver value of the guinea to the 
 point suggested by Sir Isaac Newton, the point which 
 would have established in England the same legal ratio 
 between silver and gold as on the Continent, and thus 
 prevented all temptation, as Newton had said, of importing 
 or exporting one metal rather than the other ? 
 
 "F." thinks that English people would reject silver 
 and prefer to keep gold even if they had to pay an agio for 
 it. I answer, England possesses 30 millions of gold sove- 
 reigns lying permanently in the banks of England, Scot- 
 land, and Ireland, and 30 millions in the hands of the 
 public, together with 20 millions of debased silver coin. 
 People's habits are the same in England as in France, 
 
150 
 
 In both countries the small payments arc made witli 
 silver, gold, and notes, the large with notes, cheques, and 
 clearances, without handling any metal. When inter- 
 national bimetallism is adopted by England there will be 
 in the Bank of England, side by side, gold bars and silver 
 bars, the latter to be the first employed for paying all 
 foreign countries except Scandinavia and Portugal. But 
 no change will be imposed on people's habits. The bime- 
 tallic reform will not even be visible to the naked eye. 
 
 Paid in specie or by cheque, money is not received to 
 be kept, but to be spent immediately, or to be credited in 
 the banker's books. Nobody consents to pay, nobody 
 dreams of asking, an agio above the level par either on 
 gold or silver, if not induced to do so by a foreign mone- 
 tary legislation difl'erent from his own. 
 
 Yours obediently, 
 
 HENEI CERNUSCHI. 
 
 7, Aveuue Velasquez, Pare Moneeau, 
 Paris, 3Iay 29. 
 
 To the Editor of The rimes.— June 2, 1881. 
 
 Sir, — Mr. Macleod, in The Times of last Saturday7 
 attributes to me the opinion that gold became sole legal 
 tender by law in the reign of George I. This is, however, 
 not what I said. 
 
 What I said Avas that gold was not legal tender at all 
 in the reigns of James II. and William III., because there 
 was at that time no law fixing the value of gold coins in 
 silver, which w'as the money of account ; that gold coins 
 circulated, to use Lord Liverpool's words, as a commodity ; 
 
151 
 
 that, notwithstanding this, the gold coins were given and 
 taken by tlie people at a fancy price, and silver Avas ex- 
 pelled ; and that the law became effectual only when it 
 followed the habits of the people, and fixed the value of 
 the gold coin in silver at a rate corresponding to those 
 habits. I am quite aware that silver, which had always 
 been unlimited legal tender, remained so until 1774. It 
 was expelled from circulation, first by the practice of the 
 people, and afterwards by the change in the law made on 
 the advice of Sir Isaac Newton in the reign of George I., 
 which followed and confirmed that practice. The law of 
 1774 and the subsequent laws which have limited the func- 
 tions of silver as legal tender have still further followed 
 and confirmed that practice, and are consequently effective. 
 All these facts confirm my original position that the value 
 of money is not artificially created by law, but it is natural 
 in the sense in which other values are natural. 
 
 M. Cernuschi's letter in your paper of to-day (June 1) 
 calls for no reply from me. I have been dealing with what 
 " has been," not with what " would be." 
 
 F. 
 (FAREER.) 
 June 1. 
 
THE DOUBLE STANDARD/ 
 
 From the Right Hon. EARL GREY, K.G., 
 TO Mr. H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 HOWICK, 
 
 May 31, 1881. 
 Dear Mr. Grenfell, — 
 
 I have just been reading the pamphlet by Mr. Gibbs 
 on The Double Standard, with an introduction by yourself, 
 and I should feel much obliged to you if you would 
 consider the following remarks which it has suggested 
 to me. 
 
 Mr. Gibbs has, I think, succeeded in showing that the 
 existing arrangements restricting the use of silver as an 
 instrument of exchange are even now a source of great 
 inconvenience to the whole commercial world, and threaten 
 to produce still more serious evils uuless some change should 
 be made in them. But while I concur to this extent with 
 Mr. Gibbs and yourself, I must confess that I cannot believe 
 that the inconvenience he describes could be cured by the 
 means he recommends of establishing a Double Standard of 
 value by the consent of the principal commercial nations of 
 the world. Mr. Gibbs admits the force of the objections to 
 the adoption of a Double Standard of value by a single 
 nation, which since the days of Locke have been generally 
 
 * Correspondence between the Right Hon. Earl Grey, K.G., and 
 H. R. Grenfell, Esq., Governor of the Bank of England, 
 
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 recognized as insurmountable, but he urges that these 
 objections to the system would not apply if it were adopted 
 as generally as he desires. His argument in support of this 
 view of the subject is exceedingly ingenious, but without 
 attempting to answer it in detail I must say that it does not 
 appear to me to be satisfactory. I cannot believe that an^ 
 agreement among nations, however general it might be, or] 
 any laws they could make to give effect to it, could prevent] 
 the relative value of gold and silver from being determined! 
 by the supply and demand, and ultimately by the cost oi 
 producing the tw^o metals. If both w^ere made equally] 
 available by law for the discharge of debts, that which wasj 
 at the moment obtainable at the least cost would be chosei 
 by debtors to meet their obligations. This would not 
 happen the less because the mode in which the cheapest 
 metal would be made to supersede the other would be some-BI 
 what complicated, and the result would in the end be the 
 same in the whole body of nations united by tlie proposed 
 agreement, as in the case of a single nation, though they 
 would not, perhaps, be arrived at so quickly. If there- 
 should be an increase in the quantity of either gold or silver: 
 produced annually, together with a diminution in the costj 
 of producing it, I can see nothing in the plan proposed by 
 Mr. Gibbs which could prevent the metal which had thus 
 become the cheapest from being brought in increasing 
 quantities to the mints of the various nations included in fll 
 his proposed union, and thus gradually bringing down the 
 value of the circulation in them all to the level determined 
 by the greater cheapness of one of the metals. 
 
 Inconvenience would thus arise from having a Double 
 Standard, even if, in the first instance, the relative values 
 assigned by law to gold and silver coins were accurately 
 adjusted to the natural prices of the two metals in the 
 markets of the world. But fjir more serious difficulties 
 must be anticipated if the various nations that are to be 
 parties to the proposed agreement are freely to open their 
 
 Earl Grey. 
 
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I 
 
 155 
 
 mints, as Mr. Gibbs desires, for coiiiing both gold and silver 
 into coins wliich are to be a legal tender in payment of all 
 debts, wliile the valne assigned to silver coins is to be far 
 higher than that borne in the market by the bullion they 
 contain. Should this arrangement be sanctioned by Parlia- 
 ment, every person would be entitled to carry as much 
 silver as he pleased to the English mint, and to receive it 
 back in coins of which 15 pounds and a half in weight would 
 be a legal tender in payment of the sum represented by one 
 pound weight of our present gold coinage. But we are told 
 by Mr. Gibbs that at the present price of silver the intrinsic 
 value of these coins would be 15 per cent, less than the sum 
 for which they would be a legal tender ; that is to say, all 
 debtors would have the right of paying their creditors in a 
 currency which, if the price of silver remained unaltered, 
 would be worth 15 per cent, less than that in which their 
 debts had been contracted. 
 
 Of course it is not intended by Mr. Gibbs that such a 
 gross injustice should be committed, and if I rightly under- 
 stand him, he trusts that it would be averted by the effect 
 the arrangement he proposes would have in making the 
 comparative values of gold and silver correspond in fact 
 with those assigned to them by law, so that it would 
 become immaterial to those to whom money is now due 
 whether they receive it in gold or in silver. I am not 
 prepared to admit that ieven if the expectations of Mr. 
 Gibbs on this point should be realized, the change he 
 recommends could be introduced without injustice unless 
 some further provision were made for the protection of 
 existing interests. I acknowledge that so long as the 
 existing standard of value is maintained unaltered, any 
 regulations having for their object to economize the use of 
 gold and thus limit its value, might be introduced without 
 giving any claim for compensation to those to whom 
 money is due, but it would be a very different matter to 
 make silver a measure of value concurrently with gold. 
 
Mr. Gibbs holds that if this were done in the mannS^S 
 recommends, gold and silver coins Avould be enabled to 
 circulate together at the relative values he would assign to 
 them, partly by a rise in the value of silver, partly by a 
 fall in that of gold, which he anticipates as a consequence^ 
 of the measure, so that the general value of the metallic 
 circulation of the world would be established at a rate 
 intermediate between the higher or the lower one it would^ 
 bear, if gold on the one hand, or silver on the other, were to] 
 become the accepted medium of exchange at their present 
 prices. Should this anticipation prove correct, would not 
 an injustice be inflicted on creditors by requiring them to 
 accept payment of what is owed to them in a currency thus | 
 depreciated, even though they might still be able to obtain 
 the same weight of gold coins they could have claimed 
 before? Without, however, dwelling upon this point, I 
 have to remark that it would be unsafe to rely on the 
 expected rise in the price of silver in consequence of its, 
 having the character of money available for paying all 
 debts conferred upon it by most of the commercial nations 
 of the world. Probably the first effect of that change ; 
 would be to raise the value of silver, but Avhether to 
 the extent expected by Mr. Gibbs is uncertain, and it is 
 still more uncertain whether such a stimulus might not be 
 given to the production of silver that the supply would 
 speedily become equal to the increased demand, and bring fl 
 back its price to the present level. Mr. Gibbs, in a very 
 ingenious and elaborate argument, endeavours to show that 
 there is no reason for entertaining any apprehension on ■ 
 this score, and says that " the words ' price ' and ' value ' 
 " are misapplied in describing the mutual relation of the 
 '^ metals forming together one metallic standard of value, 
 " that is to say, forming inseparable parts of one monetary 
 " system." I will not attempt to follow Mr. Gibbs through 
 this argument, but I would ask him wliether he doubts that 
 the command which money, whether it be of silver or of 
 Earl Grci/. 
 
 I 
 I 
 
157 
 
 gold, has over commodities is in the end determined by the 
 gre.ater or less abmidance of the metal and the cost of its 
 production? He clearly agrees in the received opinion 
 that the value of silver or of gold in the market of the 
 world determines the value of the currency of every nation 
 which adopts tlie one or the other as its standard, and that 
 this value depends in the first instance upon the proportion 
 between the demand for the metal and its supply. But 
 unless I misunderstand his argument he does not equally 
 admit that ultimately the supply, and therefore the value of 
 the metal, will be regulated by the cost of producing it. 
 Yet surely it must be so, since according to the return they 
 yield, a greater or a less amount of labour and of capital 
 will be applied to the production of the precious metals. 
 We continually hear of enterprises in gold and silver 
 mining being abandoned because they do not pay ; no 
 doubt a rise in the value of the metal produced would 
 enable some of them to go on and thus maintain the rate of 
 production. Variations in the price of silver are known 
 greatly to affect the extent to Avhich it is worked, and with 
 regard to gold, though its price cannot alter in this country 
 since it is itself the measure of value, variations in its value 
 may and do take place with a like result. If gold becomes 
 scarcer and more valuable, the prices in gold of other 
 things (including labour) must fall and diminish the cost of 
 producing it. On the other hand, an increased abundance 
 of gold diminishes its value, — in other words, raises the 
 price of everything else. In the last 30 years these 
 eifects of variations in the supply of gold have been well 
 exemplified in Australia. When the gold diggings first 
 grew into prosperity, wages and all articles of consumption 
 rose there to extravagant rates, which necessarily increased 
 the cost of producing gold, and tended to limit the quantity 
 produced. Afterwards, Avhen the exhaustion of some of 
 the richest diggings, and the flow of gold to other places, 
 had corrected its local excess, its value on the spot was 
 
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158 
 
 reduced, that is, wages and prices in general became lower 
 reducing the cost of production, and checking the decreas( 
 of this branch of industry. Il 
 
 For these reasons I must adhere to the opinion so long 
 and generally maintained by the highest authorities, though 
 now as it seems rejected by Mr. Gibbs, that the value both 
 of silver and of gold, whether in the form of coin oisAI 
 bullion, ultimately depends on the cost of producing them. 
 It is true that variations in that cost do not cause rapid 
 fluctuations in the value of these metals because they arefll 
 so durable, and the total mass of them available in the 
 world at any one time is so large as compared Avith the 
 produce of a single year, that it is a good while before afll 
 reduction in the cost of producing either metal, and an 
 increase in the amount produced, can cause any sensible 
 variation in its value as compared to the other, or to 
 commodities in general. Still it is proved by experienc 
 that variations in the supply and in the cost of producin 
 the precious metals do sooner or later tell upon their value 
 Such being the case it is at least not impossible that if, 
 Mr. Gibbs recommends, all the great commercial nations 
 were to concur in passing laws assigning to silver as money 
 a higher value than the metal now commands in the market,jB 
 this measure instead of producing the effect he anticipates 
 of enabling gold and silver to circulate together at the rates 
 proposed, might give such a stimulus to the production o" 
 silver as to increase the supply as much or more than the 
 demand, and leave its value as compared to gold, the same 
 as it now is. This I contend is at least a possible result of 
 the change of system recommended by ]\Ir. Gibbs, and it 
 would therefore be unjust to pass a law compelling those to 
 whom money is due to accept payment in silver coins at the 
 rate of 15^ pounds of these coins for every pound weight of 
 sovereigns they arc now entitled to. Mr. Gibbs seems to 
 feel this, for he says (p. 50) that he "presumes the law 
 " would provide that debts or other payments falling due 
 Earl Grey. 
 
 to 
 Lcefll 
 
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159 
 
 " under contracts dated before the law came into operation 
 " might be demanded in gold." Such a provision would 
 undoubtedly be necessary, but has Mr. Gibbs considered 
 that it must include all payments of interest on the national 
 debt, and on the enormous sums lent on mortgage or on 
 other securities, and what confusion must arise from issuing 
 silver coins which would be a legal tender in settling recent 
 transactions, but would not possess that character with 
 regard to the vast mass of older ones? It seems to me 
 impossible that Parliament should be persuaded to create 
 such confusion for the sake of abolishing a monetary system 
 which has worked well for many years, in order to substitute 
 for it one which is untried and apparently dangerous. 
 
 I therefore regard the arrangement recommended by 
 Mr. Gibbs as impracticable, but I concur with him (as I 
 have already said) as to the importance of the object it 
 was intended to accomplish, nor do I see any reason for 
 assuming that some better means of effecting it might not 
 be discovered. Mr. Gibbs believes that unless something 
 is done to check the prevailing tendency towards an 
 increased use of gold, this metal will more and more 
 supersede silver, and become the chief instrument of 
 exchange for nations, both in their internal trade and in 
 their commerce with each other. He also believes that the 
 supply of gold will be insufficient to meet the demand thus 
 created for it, that its price will consequently rise, or in 
 other words the price of all commodities in gold will fall, 
 and that great commercial difficulties must ensue. So far 
 as I am aware no successful attempt has been made to 
 answer the arguments advanced by Mr. Gibbs in support 
 of these conclusions, and if they are accepted as correct, it 
 follows that he must also be right in contending that it is 
 desirable that silver should be used to a greater extent than 
 it seems likely to be as an aid to gold in carrying on the 
 transactions of commerce. The question then arises 
 whether it would not be possible to secure this advantage 
 
100 
 
 by some arrangement that Avould be free from tb^bjectionS 
 to which the scheme of Mr. Gibbs is open ? My object iiij 
 writing this letter is to ask you to consider whether, so far! 
 as our own country is concerned, this might not be accom-J 
 plished by a very simple change in our monetary systemJ 
 involving no departure whatever from its principles. | 
 
 By the existing law a part of the bullion which the] 
 Bank is required to hold as against its issues of notes mayj 
 be silver. But as this silver cannot be used in payment of] 
 its notes it is of little real use. I would ask what valid! 
 objection there would be to providing that when notes are] 
 presented to the Bank for payment in sums exceeding! 
 £ 500 the Bank should be at liberty to make the paymenia 
 one-half in sovereigns, the other half in silver, coined or] 
 uncoined, at the market price of the day; while it should! 
 also be authorized to keep in silver instead of in gold] 
 one-half of the bullion against which it is entitled to issue] 
 notes? There would be no difficulty in finding some] 
 trustworthy authority to ascertain and declare the market] 
 price of silver which should be regularly published in the! 
 Gazette, as the price of corn used to be to determine the] 
 duty payable upon it, while the sliding scale was in force.] 
 The Gazette price of silver published twice a week in the] 
 Gazette woidd in like manner determine the rate at which 
 silver would be received or given by the Bank in exchange 
 for its notes. 
 
 You will perceive that the alteration in the law I havej 
 suggested would be merely the adoption, with modifications,! 
 to make it suit the circumstances of the present day, of the ! 
 plan long ago proposed by llicardo for a " Secure and 
 Economic Currency." I would remind you (though it is 
 hardly necessary to do so) that in his admirable pamphlet 
 on this subject, he has shown the value of paper money' 
 issued by the authority of the State to depend upon its 
 amount as compared to the wants of the State in which it 
 circulates. No one, I believe, now doubts this to be true, 
 
 Earl Grey. 
 
101 
 
 and experience has proved that inconvertible paper-money 
 will circulate not only without depreciation, but even at a 
 premium, if the issues are sufficiently limited, llicardo 
 also explained that the real use of insisting upon the con- 
 vertibility of paper-money, is to secure that its amount like 
 that of a metallic currency should be self-regulated by 
 the action of the exchanges, and that this object would be 
 equally attained whether the paper-money were convertible 
 into bullion or into coin. On the same principle, I hold 
 that silver taken at the market price of the day might be 
 used in conjunction with gold as the basis of our paper 
 circulation without in the slightest degree disturbing its 
 value. Large amounts in notes are usually presented to 
 the Bank for payment less with the view of using the 
 sovereigns received for them at home than for exportation, 
 because the state of the exchanges makes a remittance of 
 gold abroad profitable ; and the practical effect of demands 
 of this sort upon the Bank is to contract its paper circula- 
 tion and thus maintain its value. Precisely the same 
 results would follow if notes presented for payment in large 
 sums were paid as I have suggested, partly in gold and 
 partly in silver at the market price. The dealers in money 
 would receive in exchange for the notes they carried to the' 
 Bank gold and silver (the last having been received at the 
 market price Avould, if necessary, be converted into gold, 
 though this could seldom be required) for remittance abroad, 
 and the circulation of the Bank Avould be contracted exactly 
 as it now is. The money in ordinary use would still consist of 
 small silver, of sovereigns, and of Bank notes, the value of 
 the latter being maintained in the same way as at present. 
 
 I have suggested that the rule of making the notes of 
 the Bank payable half in silver and half in gold should 
 only apply when considerable sums were presented for 
 payment. AVhen the demand came from money dealers, 
 in consequence of the state of the exchanges, small sums 
 would not be asked for, and it would be inconvenient that 
 
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162 
 
 bankers and other traders, who require sovereigns fol 
 carrying on tlieir business, should be compelled to accept 
 silver bullion for part of the notes they might present at 
 the Bank for payment. Probably it might be conveniei^BI 
 to name a larger sum than I have mentioned above as 
 that which should give the Bank the right of paying 
 partly in silver. The point, however, is not one of much 
 consequence, for the Bank, if asked to give sovereigns for 
 the whole amount of notes brought to it for paymeni 
 would seldom refuse the request, if there were good reasoi 
 for making it. 
 
 The arrangement I have now suggested would be fr( 
 from all risk of producing the inconveniences I believe 
 be inseparable from any attempt to maintain a doubl 
 standard of value; yet it could hardly fail, even 
 adopted by England only, to be of considerable servii 
 in averting the difficulties which are now feared wit 
 respect to the employment of silver as a medium o1 
 exchange. The advantage would of course be muc^ 
 greater if this system should be adopted by other natioi^l 
 as well as ourselves, as it probably would be if we set the 
 example. The Monetary Conference, now being held i%, 
 Paris, proves how strongly the nations that invited it tfj 
 assemble feel the inconvenience of the present state of 
 things. If they should fail, as they most likely will, in 
 gaining the general assent required for trying the experi- 
 ment of a Double Standard, it may therefore reasonably \jM\ 
 expected that they would agree to a measure of which th? 
 general adoption would be at least a step in the direction 
 they desire to move in, and which would afford no small 
 part of the facilities they think are wanting for the use 
 of silver in making payments among nations. Some 
 coimtries would find additional motives for introducing 
 the proposed change in circumstances peculiar to them- 
 selves. Thus, in France, it is well known that the Bank 
 is encumbered by having a large stock of five-franc pieces 
 
 £a?'l Greij, 
 
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163 
 
 Avlilcli it is at a loss wliat to do with, since it cannot use 
 them at their nominal value to pay its notes without 
 depreciating the currency. Making them available for 
 this purpose, at the market price of the silver they contain, 
 would render the large capital locked up in these coins 
 again available to the Bank. If it were at the same time 
 provided by law that silver should be a legal tender only 
 for sirnis not exceeding 50 francs, the circulation of France 
 would be placed on the same footing as our own. The 
 United States and Italy might derive perhaps even greater 
 advantage from acting on the same principle, since it would 
 enable them to dispense with the adoption of measures for 
 substituting gold coins for the paper circulation they are 
 now actually using. The "greenbacks" of the United 
 States are now equal in value to gold, and seem to be 
 accepted in that country as convenient in the transaction 
 of business. If a law were passed requiring the Govern- 
 ment to give these notes to all who applied for them in 
 exchange for gold, or for silver at the market price of the 
 day, and also to take them back in return for gold coin 
 and silver bullion in equal proportions, when presented for 
 payment, the country would continue to enjoy the con- 
 venience which has arisen from the use of the greenbacks, 
 while the value of the currency would be self-regulated 
 by the exchanges, precisely as if there were a purely 
 metallic circulation. 
 
 To Italy the gain would be still greater. That kingdom 
 is about to raise a large loan to meet the cost of substituting 
 gold coins for its present paper-money. Why should this 
 burthen be incurred when the paper-money now in circula- 
 tion might be made, by the means I have pointed out, to 
 perform all the functions of a metallic currency, with the 
 same security against mischievous fluctuations in its value, 
 and without expense ? Though the financial situation of 
 Italy has been wonderfully improved, and the nation 
 deserves high praise for the sacrifices it has submitted to 
 
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164 
 
 for the purpose of effecting this improvement, all musi 
 agree that the burthens pressing upon the people are s(M| 
 heavy that it is most desirable to relieve them from every^l 
 unnecessary charge. But if gold coins are to be substi-^l 
 tuted for paper all over Italy, a large capital will have 
 to be provided by the State to supply these coins, and the 
 interest upon this capital, which will yield no return, wilMl 
 be a charge on the national revenue. If, as I believe, the 
 paper-money now in circulation could be given the same 
 steadiness of value which belongs to a gold currency, ii 
 would surely be far better for a nation, which has sucl 
 urgent demands for all the capital it can command foi 
 many important improvements that would increase its 
 resources, to avoid the unproductive employment of capital 
 in using for its ordinary business so costly a medium oi 
 exchange as gold, instead of the cheap one of a well- 
 regulated paper currency. At the same time, if th( 
 statesmen of Italy think it expedient to adhere to theii 
 intention of providing a gold circulation for the country, 
 the adoption of the arrangement I have suggested woul( 
 not impede but would, on the contrary, facilitate thei] 
 doing so. 
 
 Pray excuse me for troubling you with these sugges- 
 tions, but, from so long ago as the time of the discussions 
 which followed the panic of 1825, I have taken much 
 interest in the subject of our currency, and I confess that 
 I now observe with regret that what I regard as the veryfll 
 unsound doctrines on which the scheme of Mr. Gibbs is 
 founded, are apparently beginning to be received Avith more_ 
 favour than formerly, and that the scheme itself has obtai 
 the powerful support of your approval. 
 
 Believe me, 
 
 Yours very faithfully, 
 
 GREY 
 H. R. Grenfell, Esq. 
 
165 
 
 Fko:m Mr. II. R. GRENFELL to the Right Hon. 
 EARL GREY, K.G. 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 9th June, 1881. 
 Dear Lord Grey, — 
 
 The objections which Locke felt to be insur- 
 mountable in a Double Standard, arose from the certainty 
 that a country with such a standard would inevitably be 
 left with the cheaper metal. 
 
 Cernuschi, the apostle of the new creed, declares that 
 France, notwithstanding that objection, gained by the 
 system. Mr. Gibbs, in his pamphlet, neither admits nor 
 denies the inconvenience to a single nation of being 
 bimetallic. He admits that certain effects were produced, 
 and that those effects are stated by one set of men to be 
 evil, by others to be good. He then states that he does not 
 accept Cernuschi's conclusion, or deny that there may be 
 some considerable disadvantage, but doubts it to be so great 
 as is commonly supposed. (Page 17.) 
 
 As you say, there would be nothing in the proposed 
 plan to prevent " the cheapest metal from being brought in 
 " increasing quantities to the mints of the various nations " 
 — gradually bringing down the value of the circulation 
 in them all. Neither is there now. When silver is the 
 cheapest it goes to silver mints, and gold to gold mints, 
 briiiffins: down the value of the circulation in each. Under 
 the proposed plan, the change of value would be over the 
 world at large. 
 
 The proposed relative value at which the two metals 
 are to be coined is, approximately, the one which was kept 
 in force for the whole of the present century up to the 
 demonetization of Germany. (See table, on page 27, from 
 1827, in Mr. Gibbs' pamphlet.) 
 
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 With regard to the injustice, it is hard to see where i1 
 would be. All debtors are mulcted, to the same extent as 
 it is now proposed to mulct creditors, simply by the change 
 in Germany but eight years ago. Mr. Gibbs does not say 
 that gold and silver would in any currency circulate 
 together. He says that in gold-using countries gold would 
 still be used, and silver in silver. 
 
 Then as to the relative price being brought back again 
 to its present state by the extra demand for silver, Mr. 
 Gibbs' contention is that there could not be any other 
 relative price than the legal one, because to suppose other- 
 wise would be to state that a full-weight sovereign could 
 have any other value than a sovereign. 
 
 He does not doubt that command of money over com- 
 modities is determined by the greater or less abundance ; 
 but he says that the variations of production would engender 
 less important oscillation owing to the larger area which 
 those variations would affect. There would be the effect 
 produced by the alteration in the cost of production of 
 gold and that produced by the alteration in that of silver, 
 making the oscillation, perhaps, more frequent, but less 
 violent. This is now admitted by the monometallists. 
 
 If gold cannot alter its price now in England, neither 
 could silver or gold when bimetallic agreement was carried 
 out. Neither did they Avhen France enjoyed solitary 
 bimetallism. What France did was to have its prevailing 
 currency in the cheapest metal, but its price written in 
 francs in France was the same as that of the dearer. The 
 variation was in francs translated into rupees or pounds 
 
 sterling. 
 
 At page 158, you say Mr. Gibbs admits that present 
 contracts ought to be exempt ; from what I have already 
 said I think you will see that in this point I hardly concur 
 myself with Mr. Gibbs. If such were really necessary 
 I agree with you the arrangement would be impracticable. 
 
 I now come to your remedies : Sir Robert Peel, in 
 Mr. II. R. Grenfcll. 
 
107 
 
 bringing in liis Bank Act, permitted Jth of the whole 
 bullion to be silver, leaving §ths to be gold. He assigned 
 as a reason " that a stock is convenient to our trade, and 
 " that merchants often require that metal as a remittance." 
 It is, however, a fact that since silver, on the discoveries of 
 gold, became at the French mint price the rarer metal of 
 the two, the Bank have never held any except on one 
 occasion for a very short while. To have the power of 
 paying one-half of the Bank's notes in silver, and to hold 
 one-half of its bullion in that metal, would, I submit, be 
 practically an admission of bimetallism ; since, of course, 
 this would only be done on condition of France and the 
 United States agreeing to bimetallism. If France, being 
 bimetallic, kept the prices so near to 15|, a forfioj^i would 
 it if agreed with the United States; and then, although 
 France and the United States might suffer either of the 
 inconveniences already discussed, it is quite clear England 
 would enjoy the advantage of both systems — her own 
 monometallic gold system, and the fixity of the French 
 bimetallic silver price. The question is, will France and 
 the United States consent to pull the chestnuts out of the 
 fire for us ? 
 
 Ricardo's proposal is particularly discussed in Lord 
 Liverpool's letter, in which he points out that coining would 
 be unnecessary if all the one pound circulation in the 
 country w\as in notes. It would be a useless expense since 
 for all foreign remittances of bullion, bars would do just as 
 w^ell. Paper is just as convertible when a large stock can 
 be exchanged by large bullion merchants for bars for 
 export, as if one five pound note can be exchanged for 
 small milled discs with the Queen's superscription on them. 
 This I think would, however, raise a separate question. 
 
 It appears to me then that your proposition would be 
 nothing more nor less than bimetallism. You qualify it by 
 saying "at the price of the day;" but the price of the 
 day w^ould be the mint price of France and the United 
 
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 States. It is tnie that you speak of it as adopted] 
 by England only, but if other countries are suiFeringj 
 from the contraction of the favoured metal, and are] 
 expecting to suffer still more, then there cannot be 
 a doubt that the very first effect of such a proposal] 
 would be the immediate adoption of the 15 J to 1] 
 bimetallism by the two States who have convened the] 
 present congress. 
 
 The further contraction expected is from Italian resump- 
 tion and American repeal of the Silver Coining Bill, which] 
 goes by the name of " The Bland Bill." ] 
 
 The finances of America, her wealth and prosperity,! 
 would enable her to repeal that Bill whenever she likes,] 
 A few owners of silver mines might suffer, but the] 
 remainder of the citizens not engaged in silver mining] 
 would be indifferent to the loss, while their vanity and 
 ambition would be flattered by the notion of being impor-l 
 tant enough to have a gold currency. Their power to draw] 
 as much gold as they like from Europe is disputed byj 
 no one. 1 
 
 With regard to Italy the circumstances are somewhat 
 different. But Italy is also actuated by a rage for being of, 
 importance in the world at large ; and just as Bismarck} 
 altered the currency of Germany with a coeiir leger, so anj 
 Italian statesman would be capable of it. Moreover they] 
 could raise a loan in England at a high price only if it were] 
 a gold loan. Therefore if bimetallism were not carried] 
 anywhere, they might have, out of self-defence, to make a! 
 gold standard as well as a gold loan. 
 
 The "well-regulated paper currency" you speak of,] 
 must have a metallic basis, and if so, Italy would have to 
 get metal somewhere. The Latin Union arrangement lasts i 
 four years longer. By that she cannot coin more than a) 
 given amount of silver yearly; but with bimetallism she 
 would at once use in her resumption of metallic payments] 
 a large portion of the Italian currency now lying in the 
 
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 Bank of France wliicli could not be better employed than 
 in taking in her small note circulation. 
 
 I have endeavoured very hastily to answer your letter, 
 but my views on this vexed question are expressed more 
 clearly and at length in an article I have just contributed 
 to the Nineteenth Century, 
 
 I remain, 
 
 Yours very faithfully, 
 
 H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 The Earl Gkey, K.G. 
 
 Fkom the Right Hon. EARL GREY, E.G., 
 TO Mr. H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 HOWICK, 
 
 June 13, 1881. 
 Dear Mr. Grenfell, — 
 
 I am much obliged to you for your answer to my 
 letter. I have read it with great interest, and also your 
 article in the Nineteenth Century, which I was not aAvare 
 that you had published when I wrote to you. I am now 
 anxious to offer a very few rather desultory observations on 
 one or two of the points you have touched upon in your 
 letter and in your article. 
 
 In the first place, I do not think that either you or 
 Mr. Gibbs sufficiently recognize what I believe to be the 
 fact, that the relative values of gold and silver currencies 
 wdll ultimately be determined by the comparative cost of 
 producing the two metals, in spite of any laws which may 
 be enacted (either by a single nation, or by several nations 
 acting in concert) for the purpose of declaring what is to be 
 
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 considered the equivalent in one metal for a given weigfff 
 of the other, and that either shall be a legal tender at the 
 rates assigned to them. Changes in the comparative cost 
 of producing the two metals will not immediately alter 
 their relative values, for the reasons I mentioned in my 
 former letter, but by degrees that which is most cheaply 
 produced will become the cheapest in the market of the 
 world, and drive the dearest out of circulation in a number 
 of nations, just as it is admitted to do in a single nation. 
 
 You tell me that, supposing his plan to be adopted, 
 " Mr, Gibbs does not say that gold and silver would in any 
 " currency circulate together. He says that in gold-using 
 " countries gold would still be used, and silver in silver." 
 I cannot understand how this could be. In the present state 
 of the world, and with the existing facilities for communica- 
 tion among nations, it appears to me that if the proposed 
 arrangement were made, the metal which could be obtained 
 at the smallest cost of labour and capital would be the only 
 one sent to the mints of all the nations which had agreed to 
 open their mints freely to both metals at a fixed rate; none 
 of the other metal would be coined, and after a time the 
 circulation would practically consist everywhere of the 
 cheapest metal. Under the system of legal bimetallism 
 has it ever happened that the two metals have really been 
 both available as currency at the rates assigned to them by 
 the law ? I remember, as I think you must also, that 
 formerly in France nobody ever received gold without 
 paying for it. If one changed a circular note or a draft 
 on London in Paris, one's banker always gave one for it 
 either bank notes (of which in those days there were none 
 for less than 500 francs) or a sack of 5-franc pieces. 
 If one asked for gold one had to pay for it, generally, 
 1 think about 10 francs for 50 napoleons. In England, 
 at one time, the case was reversed — the legal value of silver 
 coins was lower than the market value of the silver they 
 ought to have contained. The consequence was that they 
 J'Jarl GrcJ/. 
 
171 
 
 were clipped or melted down, and there were no silver coins 
 of full weight in circulation ; the currency practically con- 
 sisted of g-uineas, with light silver for small change, gold 
 being the real standard of value. Among the united nations, 
 in the same manner, the cheapest metal, if both gold and 
 silver were made legal tenders at a fixed rate, would drive 
 out the other. If, therefore, the increased demand for silver 
 (which Avould, of course, he at first created by the adoption 
 of the plan of Mr. Gibbs) were so to stimulate the pro- 
 duction of that metal that its relative abundance as com- 
 pared to gold Avere restored, its value, as I observed in my 
 first letter, must likewise fall back to what it now is in 
 comparison with gold. The inevitable consequence would 
 be that silver only would be taken to the mints of the 
 united nations, sovereigns and 20-franc pieces would be 
 melted doAvn, and silver would become the general currency. 
 Of course when silver became a legal tender in this country, 
 the Bank of England must have the same right of using 
 the new silver coins in paying its notes, as other persons 
 would have as to the money they owed. This right Avould 
 not be refused to the Bank, and would necessarily be used, 
 for otherwise there Avould be a constant drain from the 
 Bank of sovereigns, which it would be unable to replace, 
 except by buying gold at its price in the market in order 
 to issue it again at its legal rate. An end would thus be 
 put to the circulation of sovereigns, and our circulation 
 would be depreciated accordingly. Mr. Gibbs denies that 
 this could happen, and contends that between gold and 
 silver " there could not be any other relative price than 
 '•' the legal one, because to suppose otherwise would be to 
 " state that a full weight sovereign could have any other 
 " value than a sovereign." I do not quite understand this 
 argument, but I would ask why should a sovereign not 
 bear a higher value in the market than its legal one? 
 The napoleon in France 50 years ago was worth more than 
 20 francs ; a hundred years ago a new jBriti^ih shilling was 
 
172 
 
 worth more tlian a shilling, and in both cases the resuiwl 
 was that these coins were not received by creditors iuM 
 payment of money due to them, and that a less valuableHI 
 description of coins became the real standard of valiie,BI 
 I can see no reason why in the same manner, under the"' 
 proposed arrangement, gold coins should not disappear 
 by degrees from tbe circulation of the united nations, if theM 
 comparative cost of producing the two metals should 
 conthiue to be such that a given weight of silver could be 
 produced by a smaller expenditure of capital and labour 
 than the quality of gold for which it would be a legal 
 equivalent. And we can have no assurance that this may 
 not happen, or even that the comparative cost of silve 
 might not fall still lower. 
 
 Mr. Gibbs will, I am sure, admit that it is not the law 
 but the intrinsic value of the metal they contain tha" 
 determines the value of coins, as has been very clearl 
 proved by the result of a diminution of the weight or purit 
 of the metal contained in their coins to which nations hav 
 so often had recourse for relief from financial difficulties, 
 Nor will it, I think, be disputed that the intrinsic value o 
 gold arises from the great demand there is for it for other 
 purposes besides coinage, and from the cost of producing it.fl 
 This value has been, and I believe would be again under 
 the proposed arrangement, sufficiently high to prevent gold 
 coins from circulating. H 
 
 You say that the measure I have suggested would l)e 
 practically an admission of bimetallism. Ko doubt it would 
 be so in this sense, that it would make silver as well as gold 
 available as an instrument of exchange among nations. 
 But it would be directly opposed to bimetallism, as the 
 word is commonly understood, inasmuch as it would not 
 attempt to establish two independent measures of value, but 
 would on the contrary leave our existing standard of value 
 altogether undisturbed. This last is a consideration of 
 supreme importance ; any tampering whatever with our 
 
 Earl Ore//. 
 
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 1 
 
173 
 
 standard of value would work so much injustice, and would 
 so entirely derange all private contracts, that it ought to be 
 firmly resisted. 
 
 You assume that the measure I have suggested could 
 only be adopted " on condition of France and the United 
 " States agreeing to bimetallism." I cannot admit this to 
 be the case : on the contrary, I hold that our action on this 
 question ought to be entirely independent of what they may 
 do. Neither this nor any other country can, without 
 imprudence, make the regulation of its currency a matter 
 of negotiation with other nations. Each nation should, 
 without being trammelled by any agreement with another, 
 keep itself free to deal with the subject as it may think fit. 
 We ought therefore neither to bind ourselves by stipulations 
 respecting our currency with other states, nor seek to obtain 
 any from them. But whatever may be the policy of other 
 nations, I believe that very great advantage would result 
 from this country's making greater use of silver by ac- 
 cepting it at the market price of the day as the basis, in 
 conjunction with gold, of our paper circulation. At the 
 same time I am far from denying that as we have an 
 interest in everything that tends to give increased facilities 
 to the trade of the world, it would be for our advantage, 
 as well as for their own, if other commercial nations were to 
 follow the example I desire that we should set in this matter. 
 And if we led the way I think it probable that they would 
 follow, because it would be for their interest to do so. 
 Suppose we were to take the course I have suggested, how 
 would it affect France, and how would France be likely to 
 act? As far as it went, our making more use of silver 
 would clearly be of advantage to France, since it would 
 tend to diminish the quantity of silver now pressing uj^on 
 the market by creating a new demand for it. And what 
 would France do ? There seem to me only two courses 
 she could reasonably take. She might determine to maintain 
 her existing law (thus allowing both gold and silver to 
 
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 continue to be legal tenders at tlieir present rate), wliile at 
 tlie same time she made this law effective by removing (as 
 soon as she is free to do so) the existing restrictions upon 
 the coining of silver. This would of course drive out 
 gold from her circulation, and would be equivalent to a 
 depreciation of her currency unless the price of silver 
 should rise. But she has a strict legal right so to act, and 
 I am not prepared to say that her creditors would have any 
 ground to complain of injustice if she were thus practically 
 to reduce the amount of her obligations and pay the interest 
 of her debt in a currency of a lower value. Whether this 
 would be for her real advantage is another question which 
 I need not discuss. Or if she decided against adopting 
 this course, she might so far demonetize silver as to make 
 it no longer a legal tender at its present rate for large 
 payments, declaring that gold should for the future be the 
 standard of value. If she did this she would obviously 
 incur a heavy loss by the depreciation of the silver coins 
 now held by the Bank and by the nation. Now this loss 
 and the inconvenience she would incur by making gold the 
 basis of her circulation, would be greatly diminished by her 
 adopting the same rule I have suggested for this country, 
 of allowing bank notes to be paid in equal proportions in 
 gold and in silver by weight at the current price of the day. 
 I cannot see any course Avhich France could follow with 
 any expectation of placing her currency upon a secure fl| 
 and permanent basis except one of these two. She might 
 indeed go on for a time nominally maintaining the system 
 of bimetallism, while it is really in abeyance, by declining H 
 to alter her law, but continuing to suspend the coinage of 
 silver; but the inconvenience of this would be so great 
 that before long she would practically be driven to choose 
 between the two courses I have mentioned, and it would be 
 entirely for herself to detennine which she would adopt. 
 To us it would be of comparatively little importance Avhat 
 her decision might be. 
 
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175 
 
 Similar reasoning would apply to the cases of the 
 United States, of Germany, and of Italy. All these 
 nations would find that our taking the course I have 
 suggested would not only leave them perfectly free to 
 choose the policy they might think best for themselves, but 
 would tend to diminish the difficulties they may have to 
 encounter whatever that policy may be. Our example 
 might probably have a good deal of influence on their 
 decision, but we have no business to interfere with it. 
 
 The question as to the use of £ 1 notes in this country 
 is, as you say, quite a distinct one from that which I have 
 been considering, and it is quite needless now to discuss it. 
 I must, however, confess that I have never seen any reason 
 for altering the opinion I formed at the time that the 
 abolition of small notes after the panic of 1825 was a 
 mistake. Notwithstanding the high authority of Huskisson 
 on such a question, I thought then and I think still that no 
 sufficient answer was given to the arguments against the 
 conclusion he had come to which w^ere urged in very able 
 reviews that were published of the proceedings of the 
 sessions of 1825 and 1826. But be this as it may, the 
 country has so long been accustomed, and attaches so much 
 importance to the use of sovereigns, while the expense of 
 our gold currency is one that w^e can so well afford, that^ 
 although I believe it to be needless, I should not recom- 
 mend any attempt to get rid of it. Nations in which small 
 notes now form a principal part of the circulation, and 
 where coin could only be substituted for these notes at a 
 very heavy expense, stand in a very different position. In 
 their circumstances it seems to me that the wisest course 
 would be not to abolish small notes but to give them 
 steadiness of value by making them convertible into bullion. 
 
 Yours very faithfully, 
 
 GKEY. 
 
 H. R. Grenfell, Esq. 
 
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 From Mr. H. U. GRENFELL to the Right Hox. 
 EARL GREY, K.G. 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 17 th June, 1881. 
 Dear Lord Grey, — 
 
 Mr. Gibbs and I fully recognize that tlie value 
 of the precious metals in relation to commodities will be 
 determined by the cost of producing them, subject to the 
 following qualification of that proposition : — 
 
 That in the case of consumable commodities, the yearly 
 production being often greater than the existing stock at 
 any moment, the effect of an alteration in cost of production 
 is, comparatively speaking, immediate ; w^hile in the case of] 
 the precious metals, the annual production being so small 
 a proportion of the existing stock, a falling oif is scarcely 
 felt. 
 
 With regard to the relative value, the same rule would 
 hold good unless Governments step in and, by ojiening 
 markets — that is mints — at a given fixed ratio, create a 
 steadiness not otherwise attainable. 
 
 It is quite true that a napoleon in France 50 years ago 
 l)ore a premium. But nobody paid the premium in order 
 at once to pay away the napoleon for a debt. People paid 
 their debts in that which would at once procure a release 
 from them. A napoleon Avas an article of luxury as much 
 as a comfortable carriage or a fast horse. 
 
 You are quite right in saying that there would be no 
 reason why gold should not disappear from the circulation 
 of the united bimetallic nations as it did from single ones, 
 but where would it go ? 
 
 Monometallists have suggested that if the United States, 
 India, and Europe entered into the suggested monetary 
 league, some outside nation, such as China, Japan, or Brazil, 
 
 Mr. II. R. GrcnfelL 
 
177 
 
 mlglit take it into its head to erect a gold standard for the 
 same reason which induced Germany to try it. But it 
 would very soon prove, as it did in Germany, a most costly 
 and ruinous operation. 
 
 Lord Liverpool says that a gold coinage is fitting for 
 England on account of her commercial activity, not that 
 her commercial activity and pre-eminence spring from her 
 gold coinage or standard. 
 
 I now notice your objection that nations should not 
 negociate with each other on such a subject. 
 
 It seems to me that if there is one subject more than 
 another on which a good understanding ought to exist, it is 
 in the value and measure of those commodities which by 
 the ao^reement of all a^i^es and nations are made the means of 
 balancing international accounts. We have arrangements 
 for lights at sea, for signals, for many other tools of com- 
 mercial life, and why not for money ? Such international 
 reo:ulations would not interfere with the rio^ht to make laws 
 for interior currency. 
 
 I now return to your scheme for enabling the Bank to 
 pay half its notes in silver above £ 500. 
 
 The objection Avhich presents practical difficulties to my 
 mind is that the person sending, say £10,000 of notes into 
 the Bank, and receiving £5,000 in silver, would either want 
 that silver or he would not. If he wanted the silver, the 
 operation would be much the same as it is now. If he did 
 not want it, he would send the silver back to the Bank for 
 notes the next day, and he would be in the same position 
 as the man who had got £5,000 gold for his notes under 
 the present regulations. 
 
 You then ask what the effect of the alteration would be 
 on France and Italy? Any alteration which did not entice 
 the Latin Union and the United States to keep open their 
 mints for silver Avould, in my opinion, be inoperative to 
 " rehabilitate " that metal. I see then no other course 
 possible but for all those nations to go to a gold standard 
 
178 
 
 and regard silver merely as a commodity useful for sub- 
 sidiary coins, which the Monetary Conference of 1878 
 declared would be fraught with incalculable disasters to the 
 commerce of the world. 
 
 With regard to the one-pound notes, the policy of 
 returning to them depends on whether it would be econo- 
 mical to use paper instead of gold for those small amounts. 
 Calculations have been made, and are now before me, 
 showing that it costs more than 205. to keep a £ 1 note in 
 circulation with the regulations we now enforce as to regis- 
 tration, non-reissue, and forgery prosecutions. I confess 
 I don't believe in the accuracy of these calculations. 
 
 My reason for preferring sovereigns is that a large 
 amount of gold exists in the country in the pockets of the 
 lieges, which, in case of war, such as in 1797, is a prac- 
 tical reserve which could be got at by suspension of cash 
 payments. 
 
 I hope you will excuse this rather hurried answer to 
 your most interesting letter. 
 
 I am. 
 
 Yours faithfully, 
 
 H. K. GRENFELL. 
 The Right lion. Earl Grey, K.G. 
 
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 From the Right Hon. EARL GREY, K.G., 
 TO Mr. H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 HOWICK, 
 
 June 2Wi, 1881. 
 Dear Mr. Grenfell, — 
 
 I will not trouble you with any further arguments 
 in reply to your last letter, but having had a good deal of 
 conversation with Lord Halifax while I was at Hickleton 
 on the subject of our correspondence, I write a few lines 
 to tell you that I think he quite agrees with me in coming 
 to the following conclusions : — 
 
 1st. That the objections to bimetallism are insurmount- 
 able ; bimetalhsm being understood to mean a system under 
 which the character of money is given to both silver and 
 gold coins, and either at a fixed rate is made a legal tender 
 in the payment of debts. 
 
 2nd. That the present standard of value in this country 
 ought to be strictly maintained, and that no departure from 
 it or from the principles of our existing monetary system 
 ought to be made. 
 
 3rd. That if, in consequence of our determination to 
 adhere to our present monetary system, France, the United 
 States, Germany, and Italy, were to resolve that they also 
 would maintain gold currencies, and should make such 
 changes in their existing laws as to the use of silver as 
 would be necessary to keep the gold coins they might issue 
 in circulation, the demand for gold must be so increased as, 
 for a time at least, materially to raise its value, and thus 
 occasion much commercial embarrassment and very serious 
 pressure on all branches of productive industry in most 
 nations. 
 
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 4th. Tliat authorizing the Bank of England to use silver 
 at the market price together with gold as the basis of its 
 issues might avert this evil, by leading other nations to 
 adopt similar arrangements, and would, at any rate, miti- 
 gate the evils that would arise from a great extension of 
 the use of gold in the circulation of those countries, by 
 diminishing the amount of gold required by England, and 
 affording facilities for the employment of silver as an instru- 
 ment of exchange between nations. 
 
 5th. That this measure would not involve the slightest 
 departure from our present standard of value, or from the 
 principles of our monetary system. 
 
 I do not gather from your letters that you would 
 seriously dissent from any of these conclusions, except 
 the first. And with respect to this (if I am not mis- 
 taken), in holding that bimetallism would be of advantage 
 if the system could be adopted with the general assent of all 
 the great commercial nations, you are aware that the assent 
 of this country could not be obtained, and that without its 
 concurrence the measure would be impracticable. 
 
 Such being the case, the suggestion I have offered with 
 the view of averting, or, at all events, mitigating the evils 
 to be apprehended from the course other nations may adopt 
 in consequence of the determination of this country to abide 
 by its present system of currency, seems to me to deserve 
 to be at least fully considered. 
 
 I have been writing In such haste, to save the post, that 
 I fear my letter will hardly be legible. 
 
 Yours very truly. 
 
 GREY. 
 
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 From Mr. II. R. GRENFELL to the Right Hon. 
 EARL GREY, K.G. 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 2Sth June, 1881. 
 Dear Lord Grey, — 
 
 Without saying anything more on the subject of 
 your three first conclusions, I merely desire to point out 
 with reference to the fourth, that while your proposition 
 gave the right to the Bank to pay its notes one half in 
 silver at the price of the day, I could only assent, during 
 the continued existence of the present standard of value, 
 that it should hold a portion of its bullion in silver without 
 infringing the right of all holders of notes to receive gold 
 for them at all times. 
 
 I remain, 
 
 Very faithfully yours, 
 
 H. K. GRENFELL. 
 
 The Earl Grey, K.G. 
 
WHAT IS MONEY? 
 
 From the Nineteenth Century, April, 1882. 
 
 The wisest course which can be taken with popular 
 delusions is very often found to be to treat them like raging 
 waves of the sea, and let them foam out their own shame. 
 More especially is this the case when the delusion in 
 question touches the verge of abstruse and difficult subjects, 
 with which the mass of mankind are content not to meddle 
 at all. Such has been to a great extent the treatment 
 which has been experienced by the promoters of the doctrine 
 and discipline of bimetalism. The answer appears to most 
 minds so complete and so crushing, that it has been thought 
 unnecessary to give it at any length. It was supposed by 
 those who examined the subject that, like the mother of 
 Sisera, it would make answer to itself. Too much confidence 
 has perhaps been reposed in the doctrines inculcated by the 
 standard writers on political economy and the success that 
 has hitherto attended obedience to their advice, and too 
 little allowance has been made for the power of fear and 
 of interest to warp and obscure the clearest intelligence. 
 Now, however, when we find the Governor of the Bank of 
 England coming forward as a bimetalist, and recommending 
 a general committee in order to promote the adoption of 
 the double standard, and when we find the meeting at which 
 this remarkable proposal was made presided over by a 
 
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 gentleman of the ability and authority of Mr. Cazalet, it is 
 time to point out what certainly appear to be the gross and 
 obvious objections to the admission of bimetalism in any 
 shape and under any conditions. In accordance, I presume, 
 with the suggestion of the Governor of the Bank of England, 
 the Bullionist newspaper has been enlisted as the organ 
 of bimetalism, and those who adhere to the doctrines of 
 Smith, Eicardo, and Mill are put upon the defensive. It 
 is not wdse to trust entirely to great names and works that 
 have been for a long time before the public; and even 
 if little can be added to them that little should on no 
 account be omitted, lest arguments which have hitherto 
 appeared to be unanswerable should be supposed to have 
 lost anything of their force. 
 
 Being anxious to inform myself as to the very latest 
 phase of the doctrine and discipline of bimetalism, I have 
 carefully perused the proceedings of the meeting in 
 November last of persons interested in the silver question, 
 most appropriately held at the India Office, where silver 
 reigns supreme, in hopes to extract from their consultation 
 a clear statement of what they desire, a complete explanation 
 of what is meant by the highly ambiguous term of bimetalism, 
 and a distinct description of the manner in which the union 
 of the two metals, should it be effected, is expected and 
 intended to work. I supposed that an assembly of so many 
 able and experienced men, gathered together to take counsel 
 on a subject with which they were all thoroughly conversant, 
 could hardly separate without leaving behind them a per- 
 fectly clear and distinct outline of their proposals, and an 
 equally clear and decisive answer to the difficulties and 
 objections wdiich might present themselves. Never was an 
 expectation more delusive. 
 
 " The feeling (says the chairman) that appears generally to 
 " prevail among the public in connection Avith this qnestion of 
 ** bimetalism is, that bimetalists are prognosticating dangers and 
 
 l^ord SherhrQohc, 
 
185 
 
 " difficulties without any good and sufficient grounds for their doing 
 " so. The question -vve have to deal with is not so complicated as 
 ** some people suppose. It is simply this : Can silver be eliminated 
 " from use as currency in Europe and America without enormously 
 " increasing the value of gold and depreciating the value of silver ? 
 " It is not a speculative theory which we enunciate, when we say 
 " that the withdrawal of any portion of the active currency of a 
 " country must enhance the value of what remains in proportion 
 " to the amount withdrawn." 
 
 This is really all the argument which the chairman pro- 
 duced in order to show that we ought to adopt bimetalism. 
 He did not even condescend to tell us what meaning 
 he attaches to the word bimetalism, or give us the least 
 intimation what is the measure which will avert the evils 
 which he apprehends. His speech resolves itself into a 
 mere lamentation over the scarcity of gold, and leaves us 
 absolutely in the dark as to a remedy, except that it is to 
 be found in bimetalism — a word which neither he nor any 
 of those that followed him have taken the trouble to explain. 
 This gave the tone to the whole discussion; speaker after 
 speaker rose and lamented in piteous terms the dangers and 
 difficulties that would arise from the continuance in England 
 of a monometallic standard, but no one from first to last 
 ventured to say what he meant by bimetalism, or in what 
 sense that highly ambiguous word was to be applied. The 
 discussion amongst so many eminent persons, from whom we 
 had a right to expect at least a clear and distinct definition 
 of the remedies which ought to be applied, resolved itself 
 into a mere lamentation over existing and apprehended 
 evils, which w^ere to be remedied by a nostrum which every- 
 body carefully avoided defining or explaining. I may so 
 far anticipate as to point out that the word that everybody 
 agreed to employ, and everybody Avas anxious not to define, 
 the word bimetalism, is a highly ambiguous term, and may 
 mean either a forced currency, in which, for instance, a 
 
186 
 
 seller is bouna to accept either one ounce of gold or litteei 
 and a half ounces of silver at the option of the buyer, or ii 
 is left to the option of the buyer to pay in silver or gold sA 
 his pleasure, without any attempt to establish a fixed relatioi 
 between the two metals. It is a singular instance of thf 
 degree in which the minds of those who originate thi 
 movement have been occupied, to the exclusion of all othei 
 considerations, by the terror inspired by the apprehendec 
 scarcity of gold, that though they have taken unto them- 
 selves a name under which to unite, they have carefully 
 shrunk from defining what that name means, and sheltei 
 themselves behind a mist of unmeaning words. It is als< 
 curious that they write and speak as if a drain of golc 
 however caused, were a permanent and durable calamity^ 
 whereas, while nothing is more likely to occur, nothing is 
 more certain to be redressed. 
 
 If the whole monetary system of the country is to b< 
 overthrown, we have at any rate a right to require that ii 
 should perish in the face of day, and that our future fat< 
 should not be concealed from us under dark and drear] 
 ambiguities. We do not want to be told — what of course 
 is obvious enough — that the substitution of gold for silvei 
 in Germany, for instance, must raise the value of thai 
 metal all over the world, and therefore in England. W( 
 want to know what is the precise remedy that is proposed] 
 and whether it is possible, and, if possible, whether desirabh 
 that that remedy should be applied. Utterly failing in out 
 effort to obtain from the meeting of bimetalists in Novembei 
 last any information as to what is really meant, or any- 
 thing, indeed, except a lamentation over the dearness oi 
 gold, we turn to the pages of the BulUomst, which, ii 
 pursuance of the resolution of November last, has become 
 the chosen organ of bimetalism, whatever that may meai 
 But here we are encountered by precisely the same difficulty^ 
 The Bullionist carefully avoids any authoritative statemeni 
 as to the real meaning of the term bimetalism. The most 
 
 Lord Sherbrooke, 
 
187 
 
 which it ventures to do is to quote with approval a passage 
 from the Journal of the Institute of DankerSi in which it 
 is stated that 
 
 " the object of the association is to be the promotion of the stability 
 " of vahies, by establishing the free coinage of silver and its use 
 " as money under the same conditions as gold, by advocating and 
 '' furthering an international agreement, whereby a fixed relative 
 " value between gold and silver may be established, and the two 
 ^' metals may jointly form the currency of civilised nations, thus 
 " facilitating the adjustment of international balances and lessen- 
 " ing the excessive and needless risks which have now become 
 '' attendant on home and foreign trade." 
 
 It is added very appropriately that 
 
 " it is well that those who hold the views advocated by the asso- 
 " ciation should more distinctly declare themselves, and whether 
 " they fail or succeed in obtaining assent to those views, nothing 
 " but good can result from their being more clearly enunciated." 
 
 In this sentiment at least I can most fully concur. Let us 
 have done with vague generalities, and call to mind the 
 memorable aphorism of Mr. Lowell, that it jerks one terribly 
 to kick at nothing. 
 
 One would suppose that we were about to undergo some 
 unheard-of plunder, some cruel and unjust humiliation ; 
 one would suppose that we were about to be stripped of 
 our property by the violence and wickedness of some 
 unjust and overbearing rival ; certainly one would suppose 
 that the possession of a certain quantity of gold had been 
 secured to us by some solemn contract which lawless violence 
 was about to cancel and overthrow, and that the Germans 
 were guilty of an unpardonable crime in seeking to despoil 
 us of our ancient and undoubted possessions. But what 
 is the tenure by which we hold our possession of gold ? 
 Instead of being, as these gentlemen seem to suppose, our 
 
undoubted right, the possession of gold is of all thingstne 
 most liable to change masters. By what tenure do we hold 
 it? Simply by the conviction of its possessors that it is 
 more profitable for them to employ and use it in England 
 than elsewhere. This is a question which is decided not 
 by any regulation or any compact, but by the feelings and 
 wishes of mankind. If a certain quantity of gold remains 
 in England, it is because its possessors believe that it can 
 be more profitably employed in England than elsewhere. 
 Show them a place where gold will command more of the 
 necessaries and luxuries of life than here, and gold, which 
 is perfectly cosmopolitan in its ideas, will fly at once t 
 that favoured region. It is, if we may use the metaph 
 a coy beauty, and will fly all the faster from any attemp 
 to retain her by force. If a certain quantity of gold 
 found to command more of the necessaries, and convenienc 
 and pleasures of life in England, it will remain there, and 
 as soon as it ceases to do so it will find for itself a mo 
 congenial home elsewhere. Bimetalists seem to think th 
 they possess some power of checking or destroying t 
 tendency of gold to wander, but the only real security 
 to be found in such a state of prices as will enable gold to 
 command more here than elsewhere. So far from retaining 
 gold by these artificial and bungling contrivances, they 
 would only make the flight of the metal more certain, am 
 its return more difficult. 
 
 The speaker at the meeting to which I have alluded 
 seemed to treat the probability of the transfer of a certain 
 quantity of gold from England to Germany as an irreparable 
 loss, but nothing can be further from the truth. Gold is 
 always to be had by those who will pay the price necessary 
 for its possession, and tliat price is cheapness. The more 
 of the necessaries and luxuries of life gold can obtain 
 the more firmly is it held. One would suppose from the 
 language that has been used in the alarmist meetings to 
 which we have referred, that if gold was attracted elsewhere 
 
 Lord Sherbrooke. 
 
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180 
 
 there was no hope of its return ; but nothing can be further 
 from the fact. Once proved to its possessor that it is more 
 fruitful in one phicc than another, old grudges are at once 
 forgotten, and it returns to its former home without shame 
 or hesitation. Everybody knows how gold can be got — 
 that is, by paying the best price for it — and it really passes 
 the bounds of patience when we hear its possible diminution 
 spoken of as an irretrievable calamity. 
 
 I have hitherto treated of what appeared to me to be 
 on general principles the exaggerated apprehensions inspired 
 by a temporary failure of gold ; it remains to consider the 
 nature of the remedies which are most likely to be proposed 
 for an evil which the desponding votaries of bimetalism 
 seem to believe to be inevitable. I have already pointed 
 out the real remedy, which is, if I may so speak, offering 
 gold better terms — that is, giving in exchange for it a 
 better value ; in other words, a reduction of prices. It is 
 a disagreeable remedy, but perfectly efficient, and of course 
 much easier to be practised by a wealthy than by a poor 
 nation. In these matters every day brings its changes, 
 and a wonderful self-acting machinery cures defects and 
 compensates errors. 
 
 It remains for us to put aside all these considerations, 
 to assume our case to be absolutely hopeless, and to 
 examine the remedies which may be applied by way of 
 palliatives. In this undertaking we may naturally expect 
 to receive every possible assistance from the fervid votaries 
 who harangue our men of business, and hire our newspapers 
 in the cause of bimetalism. But here we are confronted 
 by a serious difficulty, and one which we know not how to 
 overcome. Bimetalists are ardent and eloquent in their 
 cause, but they scarcely admit of an answer, for a simple 
 reason, that they have hitherto abstained from telling us 
 what bimetalism is. We are summoned in the name of 
 our bleeding country to do something to save her from an 
 impending calamity ; but when we ask how this is to be 
 
190 
 
 eiFected, we are paid by a barbarous word, which no oot 
 apparently has the heart to define. Like Joseph, we havJ 
 first to discover the riddle and then the interpretatioM 
 thereof. Perhaps this little difficulty may be removed hm 
 some revelation from the higher powers before this essaj 
 sees the light, but it is somewhat strange, when a new anfl 
 most important step is recommended, to find ourselveJ 
 obliged to guess at that to which we are called upon iM 
 agree. I am even exacting enough to think that we oughl 
 not only to be told what is the plan, but also the reason! 
 which have led to the adoption of whatever form it may 
 assume. Not being among the initiated, however, I must 
 even be content to draw such inferences as I may from 
 the single word bimetalism, and to state objections which 
 possibly a further explanation, if ever it shall arrive, w 
 show to be unfounded. 
 
 Having delivered myself of this protest, I will proceed 
 to answer as well as I can what I suppose will turn out 
 be the proposals of bimetalism. I presume it is intende( 
 that, instead of basing our currency upon gold of full 
 value and upon silver which is made much less valuable by 
 means of the alloy than the metal it personates, we are 
 for the future to have two standards; and this, as it appeanM 
 to me, can only be done in one of two ways. We can 
 arbitrarily select a certain value of silver — say, for instance,^ 
 fifteen and a half times the weight of a single ounce ofll 
 gold — and declare the two metals bearing such relation to 
 each other as above stated to be to all intents and purposes;^ 
 of precisely the same value ; or I can suppose that we ma^^ 
 make two currencies, one of silver, the other of gold, to 
 divide the patronage of the country between them, both 
 being made legal tender, and no attempt being made to 
 establish any fixed relation between them, an attempt which 
 if made must necessarily fail. There may be some other 
 method of satisfying the conditions of the bimetalists' 
 problem, but I at least am perfectly unable to conceive 
 
 Lord Sherbrooke, 
 
191 
 
 what it may be, and must content myself with deploring 
 the nnhap]>y fate of the other metals, which, without any 
 fault of their own, are excluded from their right to take 
 a part in the metallic congress of which they also are 
 members. In the total absence of any information on 
 the subject, I should have thought that if safety is 
 to be found in numbers, and if two metals are better 
 than one, three must be better than two and four better 
 than three. 
 
 Being left, however, totally without any information on 
 this subject, I will venture to ask one or two questions 
 which seem never to engage the attention of bimetalists; 
 and first I should like to propound the question. With 
 what object was money, which is a pure and absolute 
 creation of man, invented ? It was not certainly for the 
 purpose of creating value, for value exists independently of 
 any fiat or ordinance of man. As soon as a man appro- 
 priates any object of desire to himself, the notion of value 
 is firmly established in his mind. The animal that he has 
 tamed, the field that he has cultivated, the game that he 
 has caught, all give him a notion of property, which he 
 is ready to defend for himself and to respect in others. 
 All these things are far anterior to the idea of money. 
 Bimetalists argue as if money and wealth were identical, 
 whereas nothing is more certain than that the existence of 
 these two phenomena is separated by an indefinable period. 
 What, then, is the want which money was invented to 
 supply, and which has become so ingrained in our minds 
 that our bimetalists seem quite unable to see any distinction 
 between money and wealth ? I will answer this question 
 in the language of an author who seems to have had 
 a far clearer idea of the real function and duty of money 
 than the bimetalists, who apparently see no distinction 
 between money and other kinds of Avealth. The writer 
 I allude to is Aristotle. It is curious to observe how 
 much more clearly the ancient philosopher appreciated 
 
192 
 
 the real function and duty of money than the moc 
 bimetalist. 
 
 " Intercourse" (he says) "takes place between people havin| 
 *' different objects of desire. In order that they may be exchanged 
 " with each other it is necessary that they should be compared, for 
 " which purpose money came forward, and is as it were a medium, 
 ** for it measures everything, both the excess and defect ; as, for 
 " instance, how many pairs of shoes will be equal to a house or to 
 " food, for if this is not done there will be no exchange or inter- 
 " course. All things, therefore, must be measured ; but it is, in 
 ** truth, want which holds all things together : for if persons 
 " wanted nothing from each other, or not equally, there would 
 ** no exchange. Money, then, has been made by agreement asj 
 " were a substitute for demand, and is so called because it exisfs" 
 " not by nature, but by law, and it is in our power to change it anc 
 " make it useless for the purpose. If it were not possible to e^ 
 " change there would be no commerce. If a man requires nothing 
 " at the present time, money is as it were a surety to him for a future 
 " exchange that it shall be made when he wants it. But monHI 
 *' itself is not always of the same value, but yet it has more tendency 
 " to remain fixed; wherefore everything ought to be appraised, for 
 " so there will be exchange. Money, like a measure, makes things 
 "equal ; for if there were no exchange there would be no inter- 
 " course, nor any exchange if there were no equality, nor an 
 " equality if there was no common measure. In truth, it is 
 "possible that things differing so much should be commensura 
 " but for practical use it is sufficiently possible. Money makes all 
 " things commensurable, for all things are measured by money .B 
 
 srs 
 nd 
 
 any 
 atff 
 
 It is extremely interesting to see how clearly Aristotle 
 apprehended the great trutli that the original and principal 
 use of money is not the hoarding of treasure, but the 
 providing a means of exchange, and that the fact that 
 money possesses generally a certain value of its own is not 
 part of its nature. The original use of money was to 
 determine prices ; that it possesses itself value of its own 
 is a mere incident. All that is required in order to enable 
 
 Lord Sherbrooke. 
 
193 
 
 lis to determine the value of an article is a common measure 
 with which we may compare it ; that measure must of 
 course be limited in some way or other, and it is only as a 
 means of effecting that limitation that value is introduced 
 into the question. 
 
 The value of a commodity limits its quantity. Anything 
 which can be obtained in a limited quantity, with a certain 
 ascertainable amount of labour, and which is divisible, will 
 serve the purposes of money. Furs have been employed in 
 some countries as money, cattle in others — as in the Iliad, 
 in the estimation of the respective values of the shields of 
 Diomedes and Glaucus, the one being worth nine oxen, the 
 other a hundred oxen — bricks of tea in Tartary, cowries 
 in Africa, rock salt in Abyssinia. Other African tribes 
 calculate in macules^ a money of the mind w^hich has no 
 substance corresponding to it, but the value contained in 
 which has been sufficiently ingrained in their minds to 
 answer the purposes of a measm'e of value. Bullion is 
 chosen because it complies with these two conditions, 
 difficulty of acquisition and divisibility, better than any 
 known substance. Is it not strange that we should turn 
 this servant into our master, and elevate that which is a 
 mere medium for avoiding the inconveniences of barter into 
 an indispensable necessary of life, hardly secondary to food 
 and clothing ? If by some convulsion of nature the precious 
 metals gold and silver were utterly destroyed, the world 
 would be impoverished by the loss of a commodity on the 
 discovery and manufacture of which much labour and time 
 had been expended, but the only result would be that 
 we should have recourse to some other contrivance. The 
 main business of life would go on as before, and the only 
 difference would probably be that we should be obliged 
 to have recourse to a paper currency, based on whatever 
 might be found, after careful consideration, to be the most 
 convenient or least inconvenient standard of value. The 
 question would be, as it is now, a question of remedying 
 
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194 
 
 the inconveniences of barter by providing some means of 
 fixing prices. That Avould be all. 
 
 We are now in a position to examine with some con- ■I 
 fidence the claim of bimetalism to be regarded as a great M 
 and lasting improvement in our financial arrangements, HI 
 The first question which it occurs to me to ask is, why we M 
 should limit ourselves to bimetalism. The advantages of ■! 
 monometalism can easily be stated, and are undeniable. ■! 
 Those advantages are, that by this means alone can weW 
 effect that which we have conclusively shown to be theHI 
 object for which the contrivance of money was devised, ■! 
 the obviating the inconveniences of barter by creating a HI 
 common measure of value, and thus regulating prices. HI 
 Now it is perfectly obvious that this advantage, to obtain HI 
 which in the first instance money was invented, so far from HI 
 being promoted, will be destroyed by the introduction offll 
 bimetalism. Whenever you introduce two standards of HI 
 different values, and make them both legal tender, you atHI 
 once destroy the very object for which money was intro-HI 
 duced. Whether you have two independent currencies, HI 
 one of gold, the other of silver, and make each of them a ■! 
 legal tender, or declare that a certain portion of one shall 
 always be equal to a certain portion of the other, the HI 
 failure, as far as regards the establishment of a common™^ 
 measure, to obtain which money was originally invented, 
 will be the same. You will have two prices. After the HI 
 bargain has been concluded will come a second bargain, 
 the nature of which may be expressed in the words. How 
 will you have it ? The value of money depends entirely HI 
 on the cost of producing it. If, then, a second metal of 
 equal value be introduced, nothing is gained, and the 
 process is simply futile — confusion for confusion's sake. HI 
 The only advantage which can be got out of the second 
 metal is by a cheat — that is, by mixing an inferior with a 
 superior article and palming them off* on the customer as 
 of equal worth, a practice well known to dishonest pedlars, 
 
 Lo7'd Sherhrookc, 
 
195 
 
 but, I venture to submit, scarcely fit to be adopted into 
 the finance of an honest nation. The essence of bimetalism 
 is not plurality, but inequality. Plurality is only the 
 means to the end. Its whole end and object is to induce 
 people to treat as equal that which has been purposely 
 made unequal, and thus to deprive mankind of that power 
 of measuring values which money was invented to bestow. 
 
 It must never be forgotten that however the currency 
 of a country may be appreciated, it will always be able to 
 perform what has been shown above to be its leading 
 function, the regulation of prices. However much the 
 volume of the currency may be diminished, the quality for 
 which money was first invented, and which is its peculiar 
 function, will remain unaltered. Ratios remain the same, 
 whether they are counted in tens or in thousands. The 
 proper definition of bimetalism would be a fraudulent 
 contrivance by which the purpose for which money was 
 invented is entirely set aside in order to enable a State to 
 palm off an inferior metal as of equal value w^ith a superior 
 one. To such a device we are not, and I am happy to think, 
 when it is once understood, are not likely to be, reduced. 
 
 It is thus perfectly clear that a double standard is not 
 merely an inconvenience, but absolutely destroys the purpose 
 for which money was invented, and, instead of performing 
 the astounding feat of giving us two standards, leaves us 
 instead nothing but a quarrel, which there are no legitimate 
 means of deciding, and which may very probably end in 
 adopting a third standard, by splitting the difi'erence be- 
 tween the two. What makes the matter more absiu'd is 
 that this bungling and unscientific contrivance is adopted 
 to obtain an end which can be, and every day is, obtained 
 by the simplest means. The advocates of bimetalism seem 
 to treat the establishment of a gold currency in Germany 
 as a great and irreparable calamity, as a sort of robbery of 
 the treasure of England. But let them take comfort. The 
 only condition on which Germany or any other country can 
 
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196 
 
 hold any portion of gold is that that portion -^'ill comnian( 
 in that country as great a share of commodities as in any 
 other. Instead of being an irretrievable loss, the absence 
 of gold is of all things the most certain to correct itself. 
 Every pound that is taken away increases the purchasing 
 power of the gold that is left. The currency is a self-acting 
 machine, which, like a balance, is always tending to an 
 equilibrium. No doubt we must expect to see many and 
 serious changes in the distribution of the precious metals. 
 Old States are continually becoming more populous, and 
 new States are continually springing into existence. These 
 in the nature of things must demand a share of the universal 
 medium of exchange, and the appreciation of gold can only 
 be met by increased fertility in the mines. Should the 
 mines not answer to the call, the result must be a gradual 
 appreciation of the precious metals, such as existed in the 
 Middle Ages. This it may not be in our power to prevent, 
 but we may be quite certain that this distribution will take 
 place in exact accordance with the rule Avhich makes gold 
 flow to those countries where it commands the highest price. 
 The absolute value of gold may, and probably will, be 
 appreciated, but its relative value will obey a single, an 
 inevitable law. The history of gold has been a history of 
 fluctuation, and will doubtless continue to be so. The 
 fluctuations must be attended with loss to some and gain to 
 others; and it is the business of the financier to see and 
 provide against these inevitable vicissitudes. The bimetalist 
 seems to conceive that we should be at present in a stable 
 condition wfire it not for the wickedness of Germany. 
 There can be no greater mistake ; of all commodities money 
 is the most easily attracted and repelled. We live in a 
 boundless realm of unending change ; and the gold which 
 the bimetalist fancies he can enchain by his clumsy con- 
 trivance slips away from him in the very moment of his 
 acquisition. He will fill the vessel of the Danaids only to 
 see it empty by a power which he does not appreciate and 
 
 cannot control. 
 
 SHEEBROOKE. 
 
WHAT IS A STANDARD? 
 
 From the Nineteenth Century^ May, 1882. 
 
 One half of my economical friends take it as a personal 
 grievance that I should advocate bimetallism, and the other 
 half absolutely refuse to discuss the matter seriously at all. 
 This arises partly from the extreme dislike which all 
 Englishmen have for system of any kind, and partly from 
 the almost mad enthusiasm with which they regard the 
 very few systematic institutions they possess. 
 
 At this time of almost universal scepticism, when every 
 one of our most cherished beliefs is being scattered to the 
 winds, there is one thing, and one thing only, which most 
 Englishmen concur in adoring, and that one thing is the 
 English pound sterling. An English pound sterling unites 
 in itself qualities to be found in scarcely any other coin. 
 It has maintained its position unaltered for sixty-four 
 years ; it is the standard of value and measure of property 
 throughout the length and breadth of Great Britain, and 
 even in our unfortunate annexe of Ireland. It is the unit 
 of accounts; it is the coin passing from hand to hand, at all 
 events in England; and it is legal tender. It is, in fact, 
 the golden image which Nebuchadnezzar the king has set 
 up, and which, according to the serious portion of my 
 economic friends, all Englishmen are bound to fall down 
 and worship. 
 
 The present position of the question as it apparently 
 presents itself to the Government may be shortly stated. 
 
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 1st. The question does not concern England at all. 
 
 2nd. If it does concern England, it is not within the 
 scope of present practical politics, but is only in the 
 academic stage of discussion. 
 
 3rd. England, not having changed her standard since 
 1816, cannot be called upon to mix herself up with the 
 discussions upon it until those countries which have been 
 chopping and changing ever since 1868 have made up their 
 mind what it is they want, and to what extent England can 
 assist them in getting it. 
 
 4th. Supposing the object of these bimetallic discussions 
 be to rehabilitate silver, England, by keeping open her 
 Indian mints, has done more towards keeping up the price 
 of that metal than all the other countries put together. 
 
 5th. England having accepted and put in practice that 
 which is believed to be in accordance with economic law — 
 namely, free-trade — and having in vain endeavoured to 
 procure the adoption of it by other nations, including her 
 own colonies, it is rather too much to ask her without a 
 moment's hesitation to adopt another economic truth, sup- 
 posing the possibility of bimetallism by agreement to be as 
 capable of an academic demonstration as free-trade. 
 
 6th. But whether it be true or false, whether it be 
 wise or foolish, the number of pressing questions and the 
 party feelings in the House of Commons would render 
 any attempt to solve the question in this present year 
 absolutely hopeless. 
 
 I have endeavoured thus to state the present position of 
 things and the views entertained by those who take it as a 
 personal grievance that I should advocate bimetallism, and 
 I now pass on to those who resolutely decline to treat the 
 question seriously at all. The most conspicuous among 
 
 Mr. H. R, Grcnfell. 
 
199 
 
 these is Lord Sherbrooke, but I shall endeavour to deal with 
 him later on. Besides his lordship, there are others who 
 write week by week upon the subject, and find it a simple 
 matter to crush bimetallism. To do so it is only necessary 
 to take Lord Liverpool's book and Sir Robert Peel's 
 speeches, to talk of Harris, Petty, and Locke, to bring 
 out the most well-known passages in their writings, to 
 ignore everything that has happened since 1868, and to 
 speak of the impossibility of thwarting the eternal laws of 
 production. Then, by mixing up in hopeless confusion 
 standard, currency, legal tender, and unit of account, it is 
 possible to produce a most able paper which must be quite 
 satisfactory to the orthodox worshippers of the golden 
 image which Nebuchadnezzar the king has set up. 
 
 In answer to an assertion of mine that the double 
 standard existed in England up to and indeed after the 
 suspension of cash payments, the Economist writes : — 
 
 "It is difficult to understand how they — that is, Lord 
 ''Liverpool and Sir Robert Peel — could have represented to 
 " themselves the mercantile money of the kingdom as anything 
 " but gold. If they found the legal standard consisted of two 
 " metals, but that in practice one only was used, what stronger 
 " proof can be given of the impossibility experienced by us, as 
 " by other nations, of keeping both metals in circulation at one 
 " time ? " 
 
 This extract is given to show the determination not to 
 discuss the question in a serious manner ; for how can we 
 suppose that a writer in the Economist can be ignorant of 
 the difference between currency and standard? nor do we 
 know where he finds that the bimetallists desire that both 
 metals should be kept in circulation at the same time. 
 
 The Economist is so far right in that it follows Lord 
 Liverpool in using the expression '-that the standard is the 
 " principal measure of property — that is to say, the chief 
 
200 
 
 " coin in use" — and it woiild appear that this diction was 
 followed by the Bullion Committee, which took "standard" 
 and " chief coin in use " to be synonymous, and thereby 
 held that gold was the English standard, anything in law 
 to the contrary notwithstanding. 
 
 Now, what appears to me to be a correct meaning of 
 the word "standard," as it is used at the recent monetary 
 conferences, is that it shall be " the principal measure of 
 property," but not necessarily " the chief coin in use." 
 
 A bank-note at this moment is legal tender in England, 
 but not in Scotland. It is also current in England and not 
 in Scotland. A Scotch bank-note is current in Scotland, 
 but it is neither legal tender nor standard until it has been 
 exchanged for gold. 
 
 In America it is very hard to say, with the perpetual 
 changes taking place, what is standard and what is legal 
 tender. In France, French bank-notes, pieces of five francs, 
 and napoleons are legal tender at the ratio of 15^ to 1, but 
 the coinage of silver having been suspended, the gold has 
 not quitted the country, notwithstanding the fall of silver. 
 It is, however, only kept therein by that and other some- 
 what forcible measures. Most of the economists declare 
 that France has got what they call a gold basis, and 
 this is true to a certain extent — namely, that while, if 
 you take gold ingots to the Mint at Paris, you may get 
 gold coin in exchange, of standard weight and fineness, 
 if you take silver ingots you cannot get them coined. 
 The double standard, therefore, exists still in France to 
 the extent of coined silver, but no further. The double 
 standard, according to law, is in that country less com- 
 plete than it was in England previous to the suspension 
 of cash payments, because during that time, notwith- 
 standing that the free coinage of silver had been stopped, 
 any one could pay his debts to the amount of £25 in 
 garbled silver currency, and to an unlimited extent in silver 
 by weight. 
 
 Mr. 11. R. Grcnfell. fl 
 
201 
 
 Before continuing the subject of the standard, I will 
 say a few words upon what I mean by money. 
 
 A friend of mine, of unequalled knowledge of commercial 
 affairs, and of twenty years' experience in parliamentary life, 
 was inclined last year to take an interest in bimetallism. 
 He applied to Lord Sherbrooke for his opinion, and received 
 for answer that only fools were to be found in favour of the 
 double standard, and I have therefore naturally taken up 
 his lordship's paper upon the nature of money Avith fear 
 and trembling ; the more so as I find that he considers 
 bimetallism to be one of those " delusions," only worthy of 
 being treated like the raging waves of the sea by letting 
 them " foam out their own shame." 
 
 Having declared myself to be a bimetallist, I am 
 astonished to find that I have been "deluded" into a 
 question which " touches on the verge of the abstruse, 
 " which the mass of mankind are content not to meddle 
 " with." " The answer," according to Lord Sherbrooke, 
 " appears to most minds " — that is, I presume, to most 
 minds other than those of the mass of mankind — " so com- 
 " plete and so crushing that it has been thought unnecessary 
 " to give it at any length." 
 
 I do not pretend to understand all that has been written 
 on the subject, for I do not know what Lord Sherbrooke 
 means by the " discipline of bimetallism," but I have done 
 that Avhich he has not done, in reading most of the treatises 
 which have been written on the question. His method of 
 studying it has been, as Mr. Kinglake said of Lord Raglan 
 at the battle of the Alma, to avoid clouding his brain Avith 
 useless information or plans. The masses of pamphlets 
 which lay upon his table, 
 
 " Thick as autumnal leaves that strow the brooks 
 " In Vallombrosa," 
 
 have been put aside, and he has sought for information as 
 to what he calls "the latest phase of the doctrine and 
 
202 
 
 " discipline of bimetallism" by looking exactly wRer^^waS? 
 sure not to find it. He goes to the printed report of a 
 meeting summoned to agree upon the best mode of organising 
 a society for the spread of the doctrine, and expects to find 
 the whole theory explained in a speech made by the 
 chairman to men almost all of whom had written or spoken 
 upon it. He might as well have expected to find the Pons 
 Asinorum or the first rules of syntax in it. In fact, to; 
 carry on his own quotation, in this he is like a " wandering 
 " star to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for 
 " ever." ' 
 
 He tells us he is a disciple of Smith, Ricardo, and Mill,] 
 and I presume that the form in which that assertion 
 presents itself to his mind is the following: — " I am a] 
 " disciple of Smith, Ricardo, and Mill ; I disapprove oi 
 " bimetallism, therefore every one who approves of it is in! 
 ** contradiction with Smith, Ricardo, and Mill." 
 
 My desire is to show that all that Mill says of the 
 double standard is thoroughly understood by bimetallists ; 
 that what Adam Smith says of the standard refers to purity 
 of coin more than anything else ; and that the plan of' 
 Ricardo, for the paper circulation, is one which would bring 
 out in a stronger light than any other the advantage, if not 
 the absolute necessity, of bimetallism. 
 
 But here I am in the same unpleasant predicament of] 
 which Lord Sherbrooke complains: I am "jerked with 
 *' kicking at nothing." If he had read the papers before 
 him, he would have known that the bimetallists have never 
 relied, for their statement of the effect of the German 
 demonetisation, on their own resources. They have derived 
 their whole statistical information from the writings of 
 Messrs. Gifi'en and Jevons. If these are exaggerated or 
 erroneous, their mistakes can be corrected. 
 
 The effect of bimetallism to secure a diminution of the 
 fluctuations in the prices of the precious metals is vouched 
 for by Mr. Jevons in his work on money. 
 
 Mr. H. R. Grenfell, 
 
203 
 
 The general principles of bimetallism are contained in a 
 memorandum on an international bimetallic standard of 
 value, dated Simla, June 2, 1880, which memorandum is to 
 be found in the Blue Book containing the proceedings at 
 the Paris Conference of 1881. Mr. Chapman, the author 
 of it, was himself present at the meeting in November, and 
 its contents are more or less adopted by all those who take 
 an interest in this question. 
 
 Mr. Gibbs' pamphlet on the Double Standard, which 
 contains the table of the relative prices of the precious 
 metals during the whole period of the existence of the 
 French mint prices, showing that their divergence dated 
 from the exact moment when the double standard was 
 destroyed, might have afforded a candid inquirer some food 
 for reflection. But, as Lord Sherbrooke had omitted to 
 read anything on the subject on which he lays down the 
 law, so it was necessary for him to create a giant of some 
 sort to destroy, and the one he has selected is a supposed 
 assertion on our parts that we were " undergoing some 
 " unheard-of plunder, some cruel and unjust humiliation," 
 by the German demonetisation. I shall shortly show that 
 our language upon that subject has been much less violent 
 than his own. 
 
 What we have said is that Germany committed an error, 
 now publicly acknowledged by her to have been so, in that 
 she "reposed too much confidence in the doctrines inculcated 
 " by the standard writers on political economy, and in the 
 " success that had hitherto attended obedience to their 
 " advice;" that she followed the counsels of doctrinaires who 
 had no practical knowledge of the phenomena they under- 
 took to explain, and that she thus altered her monetary 
 system, confiding in "dark and dreary ambiguities," rather 
 than in that which would bear the light of day from being 
 based on practical experience and theoretic truth. 
 
 A subject "verging on the abstruse" is not exhausted 
 by one quotation from Aristotle, and by paraphrases of Mill 
 
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 and Adam Smith's chapters concerning the natnr^nSoney, 
 nor is it sufficient for an ex-Chancellor of the Exchequer to 
 assert that, like the mother of Sisera, a question upon the 
 subject would make answer to itself. The bimetallist theory, 
 which Lord Sherbrooke has not examined, is believed by us 
 to rest upon the definition to be found in his own quotation 
 from the Ethics — namely, that the value of money, and the 
 relative value of the precious metals, depend less on pro 
 duction than on the monopoly with which it is endowed b 
 being money. 
 
 Aristotle tells us that money has the name '^ vofxicr/xa 
 " because it is not so by nature but by law, and because it 
 ^* is in our own power to render it useless;" thus, and thfll 
 only, was it in the power of the German Government to 
 change its silver money and render it useless, and the 
 consequences arising from that act are what we have to 
 analyse and explain. 
 
 Lord Sherbrooke says that "the value of mon 
 "depends entirely on the cost of producing it." 
 
 M'^CuUoch says the same thing, if possible, mo: 
 explicitly; he says: — 
 
 ** A pound weight of gokl is at present worth abont lifte 
 " pounds of silver. The cause of the difference in the price of 
 "the two metals consists entirely in the circumstance of its 
 " costing about fifteen times as much to produce a pound of go! 
 ** as to produce a pound of silver." 
 
 In a correspondence between Lord Grey and myself 
 last summer, he, while eagerly claiming for the precious 
 metals the subservience to the general law of the cost of 
 production, frankly admitted that qualification of the 
 doctrine which all men, I believe, except M'^Culloch, in an 
 unguarded moment, and Lord Sherbrooke, assent to. m 
 
 Lord Grey says: — ^ 
 
 "It is true that variations in that cost do not cause rapid 
 " fluctuations in the value of these metals, because they are so 
 Mr. 11. R. Grcnfell 
 
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205 
 
 " durable, and the total mass of them available in the world at 
 " any one time is so large as compared with the prodnce of a 
 " single year, that it is a good while before a reduction in the 
 " cost of producing either metal, and an increase in the amount 
 " produced, can cause any sensible variation in its value as 
 " compared to the other, or to commodities at large." 
 
 This modification, if correct, shows that the truth of the 
 vahie being governed by cost of production is a question of 
 degree and not of principle. If the interval mentioned by 
 Lord Grey between the change in the cost of production 
 and the efiect upon the market value be a very long one, 
 say a century, it naturally becomes less important than the 
 instantaneous effect upon the market by the arbitrary action 
 of certain states. The discovery of the Californian and 
 Australian gold fields, and that of the silver deposits in the 
 centre of North America, had less effect on the values of 
 the precious metals than the acts perpetrated by the 
 German and Scandinavian Governments in their total or 
 partial cessation of silver coinage. A comparison of these 
 phenomena seems to me to be more pertinent to the 
 question than allusions to Diomedes and Glaucus, bricks of 
 tea, cowries, and rocksalt, or macules, otherwise money of 
 the mind, of which Lord Sherbrooke possesses so surprising 
 a monopoly. 
 
 Mill's remarks on the double standard have not been 
 neglected by the bimetallists ; they are as follows : — 
 
 " It appears therefore that the value of money is liable to 
 *' more frequent fluctuations when both metals are a legal tender 
 " at a fixed valuation, than when the exclusive standard of the 
 " currency is either gold or silver. Instead of being only affected 
 *' by variations in the cost of production of one metal, it is subject 
 *' to derangement from those of two." 
 
 Lower down in the same page he says: — 
 
 " Some of the advocates of a double standard are influenced 
 " by an exaggerated estimate of an advantage which to a certain 
 
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 " extent is real, that of being able to have recourse tor repienismng 
 " the circulation to the united stock of gold and silver in the 
 *' commercial world, instead of being confined to one of the 
 ^' which, from accidental absorption, may not be attainable wi 
 " sufficient rapidity." 
 
 he 
 
 1 
 
 These two assertions would be admitted by the bimeta 
 lists to have been fair enough at the time they were 
 written ; but the experience gained since the demonetisatiojl 
 of silver in Germany has proved that if the oscillations i? 
 the prices of the precious metals in respect to commodities 
 would be somewhat more frequent, they would be al 
 much less violent, with the double standard. 
 
 I now pass on to Adam Smith. In his days eith 
 of the two metals was legal tender at a fixed rati 
 Lord Sherbrooke apparently fancies that some wea 
 kneed individuals were assembled at the India Office la 
 November to hear the doctrine propounded for the fi 
 time. The following is what I find in Adam Smith on tl 
 subject : — 
 
 " In the English Mint the pound weight of gold is coined into 
 " 44^ guineas, which at 2\s. the guinea is equal to £46 \is.6i 
 " An ounce of such gold coin therefore is worth £3 17*. \0^d. 
 '' silver." 
 
 Further on he says : — 
 
 " In the English Mint a pound weight of standard silv< 
 
 ** bullion is coined into G'2 
 
 shillings, 
 
 containiuff in the same 
 
 " manner a pound weight of standard silver ; 6s. 2d. an ounce 
 " therefore is said to be the mint price of silver in England, 
 **the quantity of silver coin which the mint gives in return f< 
 *' standard silver bullion." 
 
 There is not a word in the famous chapter of Adam Smit" 
 indicating his belief in the necessity of a single standard ; 
 in fact, in his day the question of the standard was so 
 
 
 Mr. JL R. Grenfell. 
 
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207 
 
 mixed up with the necessity of standard weight and fineness 
 in the coins forming the currency of tlie country, tliat no 
 one that I am aware of was known to discuss the possibility 
 of a standard of value, other than that depending on the 
 standard weight and fineness of the coins of the realm, 
 to which principally Lord Liverpool's famous treatise is 
 devoted. Thus Adam Smith says : — 
 
 *' The money of any particular country is, at any particular 
 " time or place, more or less an accurate measure of value, 
 " according as the current coin is more or less exactly agreeable 
 " to its standard, or contains more or less exactly the precise 
 '* quantity of fine gold or pure silver which it ought to contain." 
 
 I now come to Ricardo, whom it is the fashion at this 
 day to decry. Lord Sherbrooke's devotion to him is 
 derived, I believe, from one of the causes whence springs 
 his contempt for the classics. That contempt is bred by 
 familiarity with them, which, in the case of Kicardo, has 
 produced admiration mixed with envy of that special know- 
 ledge to which his lordship can never attain. 
 
 Ricardo in his day, and Lord Overstone in ours, have 
 enjoyed the peculiar advantage of what Mr. Squeers called 
 " practical education : " that is, they can not only spell 
 horse, but they have rubbed him down. Ricardo's scheme 
 for a paper currency which has been publicly praised by 
 Lord Sherbrooke, but the precise scope of which I fancy he 
 scarcely understands, is exactly the example which a2)pears 
 to me to show the advantage of bimetallism. 
 
 Let us suppose, for the sake of argument, that Kicardo's 
 scheme for a paper currency should be carried out to its 
 fullest conclusion ; that one-pound notes should be issued 
 for England, as they are for Scotland and L-eland, and that 
 there should be no such thing as coined sovereigns at all ; 
 that the security for the payment of these notes, either by a 
 privileged bank or the State, should be the amount of 
 
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 the 
 
 1 
 
 securities declared to be sufficient, and the balance .^ 
 bullion. It is manifest that with such a state of things 
 there would be no necessity for a mint at all. The precious 
 metals, whether one or two, would be kept in ingots of the 
 standard weight and fineness in the vaults of the issue 
 department. The volume of the paper circulation would 
 fluctuate exactly to the same extent as if the whole circu- 
 lation Avere metallic, and the raising and reducing of the 
 rate of discount would be the regular expression of the 
 existing value of money in the country — that is, a demand 
 for circulation would cause the rate to rise, and a super- 
 abundance of it would cause it to fall. Bullion for the 
 issue vaults would be attracted by high rates, and repelh 
 by low rates. 
 
 Are the monometallists prepared to say that, with tl 
 circulation thus confined to paper, if the principal nations 
 of the civilised world had agreed to treat both silver and 
 gold as money at a fixed ratio, whether in coins or ingots, 
 it would be to the advantage of England to restrict its 
 operations to one metal only ? Mi 
 
 If they are not prepared to say this, they will nW 
 doubt answer that the fixed ratio is an idle dream and an 
 impossibility, and that the reason why they wish for ingolBI 
 of gold is that one metal alone can measure value. Ho™' 
 then, if that be so, is it to be accounted for, that, during 
 the whole period of the French mint prices being open 
 the world, the relative prices of gold and silver remaine( 
 constant, notwithstanding the changes in the cost of pro- 
 duction caused by the discoveries, first, of gold in Australia 
 and California, and afterwards of silver in America ? 
 Instead of accounting for these phenomena. Lord Sherbrook^ 
 rejoices in such words as " confusion for confusion's sakej 
 " fraudulent device," and " palming off by a practice kno^ 
 " to dishonest pedlars." 
 
 I have already shown that in the days of Adam Smitl 
 a standard meant the measure of weight and fineness 
 
 Mr. II. It GrenfeU. 
 
 
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209 
 
 of a coin or ingot, and I have also endeavoured to 
 show that with liicardo's scheme for a ])aper currency 
 which Lord Sherhrooke publicly api)roves, there would 
 he no need for coin at all, but bullion, and bullion 
 only of standard weight and fineness in ingots, would 
 be necessary to hold against bank-notes beyond the amount 
 permitted to exist in securities. The standard weight 
 and fineness being duly certified, the pounds sterling in 
 such ingot would constitute the measure of value in the 
 country, because each possessor of a sufficient number 
 of bank-notes could at any time change them for an ingot, 
 which might be sent anywhere. In such a case, the only 
 use of the ingots would be to send abroad. Supposing 
 the French mint prices to be restored anywhere, the 
 holder of the ingot could procvu*e currency with it in 
 such places, but the monometallists would prevent the 
 holding of silver against the notes, however " convenient 
 " it might be to the merchant," lest it should be supposed 
 that the bimetallic standard was that of the realm of 
 England. 
 
 In America at this moment silver is legal tender, but 
 nobody wheels about barrows full of silver dollars ; but they 
 have in their pocket-books silver certificates with which 
 they can pay their debts or taxes. These silver certificates 
 are, as near as possible, in accordance with Kicardo's 
 proposition. 
 
 The most singular part of Lord Sherbrooke's omissions 
 is his total oblivion of his own speeches. He thinks 
 it a most dreadful presumption to attempt to alter the 
 standard of the realm in England, forgetting that he 
 has proposed to alter the standards used by two far more 
 populous communities than ours. He first proposed to 
 alter the European standard of value, and, secondly, that 
 of our Indian Empire. In order that there may be no 
 mistake whatever about his propositions, in making both 
 of which I am bound to admit that his language about the 
 
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 double standard was fully as strong as it is now, I quote 
 his words : — 
 
 " A gold and silver standard is not a double, but an alternate 
 " standard. The two metals are always fluctuating in their 
 ** relations to one another. It is in the nature of things for the 
 *' cheaper metal for the time being to drive out the dearer. 
 ** Therefore, when the silver standard drives the gold out of 
 " circulation, it leaves us nothing to compare our international 
 " coin with except the silver standard to which it would have no 
 " exact relation ; and so I ventured to say in answer to the 
 ** question, that it would be impossible to hold out hopes of 
 " assimilation [that is, of coinage with France] until France has 
 " made up her raiud to give up the silver standard and have 
 *' only a gold standard ; and I am happy to say that France is 
 " favourable to the abandonment of her silver standard. . . . 
 
 " But I wish here to point out that I believe it is possible for 
 " England and France, if they can make up their minds to give 
 " up a little of their prejudices for the sake of the great advantage 
 ** of having an international coinage, to obtain that object. I will 
 "just show the House how that could be done. . . . 
 
 " It appears to me that the subject is not so difficult as might 
 " be supposed, and that by a single measure we may secure to 
 " ourselves the great benefit of saving all the expenses incurred 
 " on our own gold coinage, without imposing those expenses on 
 " any one else, and at the same time of striking a coin which 
 ** would have the advantage of an international circulation." 
 
 These extracts show that to change the standard of 
 value all over Europe for the very small object of possessing 
 a coin which Avould have the advantage of an international 
 agreement, was in 1869 thought a very easy and simple 
 operation by the then Chancellor of the Exchequer. 
 
 The next quotation is from his contribution as an 
 Opposition leader to the Indian silver discussions. He was 
 as strong as he is now, and as he was in the coinage 
 
 Mr. H. li, Grcnfcll, 
 
211 
 
 controversy, against the double standard, and he placed his 
 views before the House purely as sugc^estions, and without 
 any assumption of authority. But, when looked at in the 
 light afforded by the controversy about the standards, they 
 showed that he exaggerated far more than any bimetallists 
 do the evils to India arising from the demonetisation in 
 Germany. 
 
 " We know from the accouuts before uS that India by this 
 means alone (that is, the depreciation of silver) actually loses and 
 is deprived of £3,000,000 yearly. This is a state of things which, 
 if it is to be regarded as permanent, and one not likely to be 
 speedily or immediately relieved, is one utterly intolerable to be 
 contemplated, if there be within our reach any means or power 
 of amendment. I think the case is made out, as clearly as can 
 be, that we should, if possible, avoid so terrible a calamity as that 
 with which India is visited through no fault of her own, which 
 springs from institutions which she has, which does not arise 
 from the nature of things, but comes from institutions made by 
 the will of man, and can be altered by the Avill of man." 
 
 What, then, was the remedy for the intolerable state of 
 things brought about, as he correctly states, by the will of 
 man and alterable by the will of man? He proposes a 
 paper currency for India founded upon gold. After making 
 his usual attack upon the double standard, w^hich had been 
 recommended by the previous speaker, Mr. Sidebotham, 
 he adds : — 
 
 " The question is whether we cannot hit on some other 
 " means. What appears to me to be wanted is a standard 
 " identical with that of the country with which it is so intimately 
 " bound up. . . . 
 
 ." It would be perfectly easy, I think, to introduce notes into 
 " India, and to make the regulations that Mr. Ricardo suggested, 
 " that a person should receive gold for any notes he might bring 
 " in. We know if there were any redundancy in the currency 
 
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212 
 
 " that the process would go on until the redundancy ceased ; bu 
 " it would go no further, and then we should be possessed of a 
 '* currency, not so showy, not so expensive, but for all practical 
 " purposes just as good, as the currency of England and the silve 
 " currency of India." 
 
 1 
 
 This crude proposition, at first believed to have beeu 
 hastily advanced in the heat of debate, was afterwards 
 enlarged upon in an article in the Fortnightly of July, 1879jB| 
 under the title of "A Simple Way out of the Indian 
 " Difficulty." It included a cessation of general coinage of, 
 silver in India, and the issue of notes convertible into gold 
 
 The objections to it were- 
 
 I 
 
 1, That to procure the gold to pay the redundant notes 
 would create so large a demand for that metal as woul 
 increase the divergence between the value of it and that o 
 silver. 
 
 
 2. That the enormous amount of silver rupees in India 
 would be crowded into the treasuries to exchange for the 
 new notes convertible into gold. 
 
 3. That, notwithstanding the limit implied by the cej 
 sation of fresh coinage, the profit to the holders of rupeej 
 would be so enormous that it would have paid to set u] 
 mints in all directions. 
 
 This "simple way" showed the extreme simplicity oi 
 the author of it, who perhaps never suspected that it woul( 
 be called "a fraudulent contrivance," tending to "confusion' 
 " for confusion's sake." However, this proposition very 
 naturally was heard of no more. fll 
 
 The conclusions arrived at by Lord Grey in the corre- 
 spondence to which I have already referred are as follows ; 
 
 ** 1. That the objections to bimetalHsm are insurmountable; 
 " bimetallism being understood to mean a system under which 
 Mr. H. R. GrenfelL 
 
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213 
 
 " the character oS money is given to both silver and gold coins, 
 " and either at a fixed rate is made a legal tender in the payment 
 " of debts. 
 
 " 2. That the present standard of value in this country ought 
 " to be strictly maintained, and that no departure from it or from 
 " the principles of our existing monetary system ought to be 
 " made. 
 
 " 3. That if, in consequence of our determination to adhere 
 ** to our present monetary system, France, the United States, 
 ** Germany, and Italy, were to resolve that they also would 
 ** maintain gold currencies, and should make such changes in 
 " their existing laws as to the use of silver as would be necessary 
 " to keep the gold coins they might issue in circulation, the 
 " demand for gold must be so increased as, for a time at least, 
 " materially to raise its value, and thus occasion much commercial 
 " embarrassment and very serious pressure on all branches of 
 " productive industry in most nations. 
 
 *' 4. That authorising the Bank of England to use silver at 
 " the market price together with gold as the basis of its issues 
 " might avert this evil, by leading other nations to adopt similar 
 " arrangements, and would, at any rate, mitigate the evils that 
 " would arise from a great extension of the use of gold in the 
 *' circulation of those countries, by diminishing the amount of 
 " gold required by England, and affording facilities for the 
 " employment of silver as an instrument of exchange between 
 " nations. 
 
 " 5. That this measure would not involve the slightest depar- 
 " ture from our present standard of value, or from the principles 
 " of our monetary system." 
 
 It will be seen that Lord Grey accepts the fact of the evils 
 which have followed the demonetisation of Germany. 
 
 Mr. Clarmont Daniell, an Indian writer, proposes that 
 there should be but one standard and one legal tender of 
 money for all the world — gold. To this he adds silver, to 
 be equally legal tender to an^ amount, but upon conditiqn 
 
2U 
 
 that its value as existing in the bullion market shall be 
 ascertained from time to time, and proclaimed by competent 
 authority. Professor Bonamy Price supports this theory, 
 and backs it up by the singular argument " that steadiness 
 " of value is incomparably the highest quality which money 
 " can possess." He therefore wishes to take away that 
 quality from that which is the money of a very large 
 portion of the human race, simply because he is unwilling 
 to accept one fact which Professor Jevons has proved to be 
 mathematically correct, and another which the French mint 
 prices show to be historically true. 
 
 The objection which I feel both to Lord Grey's plan 
 and to Mr. Daniell's is that they would have all the evils of 
 a radical change without bringing us^back to that state of 
 the common measure of value which was lost when the 
 French mint prices were given up. 
 
 The use of a standard is that, if the unit of account be 
 a pound, a dollar, a mark, a rupee, or a franc, the persons 
 having any number of these written in books against their 
 names may know as exactly as possible what their debt is, 
 and what quantity of what substance will suffice to free 
 them from it. Now with a varying relative price between 
 gold and silver, notwithstanding that both would be used 
 as " instruments of exchange between nations," the above 
 advantage would be lost. 
 
 The functions of a standard, as has been said before, are 
 not necessarily limited to its connection with coins or other 
 instruments of circulation within a state, more especially 
 in a country where paper transfers of all sorts are so much 
 in use as they are here. A standard may be, if I may use 
 the term, the test of that " money of the mind " which is 
 founded on the certainty of ultimately receiving that which 
 will be as available in the international exchange as paper 
 is within the state. It appears then to me that to recognise 
 the standard of value in international exchange is more 
 important than to regard it in its relation to interior cur- 
 
 Mr. II. R, Grcnfcll, 
 
215 
 
 rency, and that this consideration ought to induce the 
 governments of those countries which have brought about 
 the difficulty by their rash interference and ill-considered 
 changes in their monetary arrangements, to think twice 
 before they break up the present negotiations, even sup- 
 posing that their continuance should involve an agreement 
 with no other offer from England and the Indian Empire 
 than that made last year. 
 
 I give this advice imder the full conviction that the 
 enormous international transactions of England will make 
 her come into the agreement as soon as it shall be shown to 
 be feasible, and giving due weight to the old objection which 
 would of course arise on the part of other Powers, that they 
 do not wish to pull the chestnuts out of the fire for us. 
 
 A great deal has happened since last year. The Italian 
 Government has made a gold loan,*but has not ventured 
 upon a gold resumption. The American Government has 
 shown its powerlessness to repeal the Silver Coinage Bill, 
 notwithstanding the recommendation of the Treasurer and 
 Director of the Mint. The silver material dollar may not 
 have got into circulation ; but the silver certificates which 
 Lord Sherbrooke thinks better still are to be found in every 
 railway station and custom-house, while the evils which 
 were so intolerable in India have turned out to be only 
 losses to the public budget of the State and the private 
 budgets of the English officials. 
 
 Lord Sherbrooke has himself proposed an international 
 agreement for coin which at once deprives him of the right 
 to make the objection of its impossibility. 
 
 The French bimetallic standard was defended as far 
 back as 1819 by Sismondi without anticipating either inter- 
 national agreement or free mintage, the two new elements 
 brought in since that date. He says : — 
 
 " Si le gouvernement declare que toute dette d'uiie once d'or 
 " pourra etre legitimement payee avec qiiinze onces d'argenl, 
 
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 ainsi que cei^s^pratique en France, la mesure commune du 
 commerce ne s'etablira pas sur la quantite annuelle produite 
 par les mines d'or ou par celles d'argent, mais sur une moyenne 
 proportionelle entre les variations que subiront ces deux 
 quantites, et I'etalon desire en acquerra plus de fixite." 
 
 Now the above is what we want answered ; it will not 
 answer itself. We are all agreed that the object in view is 
 to have the greatest fixity which can be obtained from our 
 common measure of value. We are all agreed that within 
 a country where gold is the only measure of value, the 
 fixity, though not absolute, is as great as can be had ; but 
 the question is how to obtain the greatest fixity in inter- 
 national transactions, and with reference to this point we 
 believe that the effect of the demonetisation of silver has 
 shown that " there are more things in heaven and earth " 
 than were dreamt of in the philosophy of Lord Liverpool 
 and M^Culloch. 
 
 Lord Sherbrooke has not refuted our arguments, but he 
 approves of Aristotle's definition. He therefore believes 
 that money is made by law and can be unmade by it ; but 
 he apparently disbelieves that the relative value between 
 the two metals can be fixed by it; that is, he thinks that 
 Aristotle's rule is good enough for either metal, but not for 
 both. lie is thus, in my opinion, landed in the dilemma 
 suggested in Sheridan's famous paradox. 
 
 Sheridan was in the habit of walking with his aunt 
 to the j^ump-room at Bath, but after a time that amuse- 
 ment palled upon him. One day he neglected to escort 
 her, and on his visiting her next day she remonstrated with 
 him. 
 
 " But," he answered, " it was raining all the morning." 
 " Quite true," she said, " but it was fine all the afternoon, 
 " and I heard of you on the public Avalks." To which he 
 rejoined, " My dear aunt, it was fine enough for one, but 
 *< not for two," 
 
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 This argument, though in some respects defective, was 
 meant to be, and no doubt was, good enough for an old 
 woman. Lord Sherbrooke's limitation of the maxims of 
 Aristotle appears to me to display a contempt for the 
 understandings of his opponents similar to that which 
 Sheridan felt for that of his aunt. 
 
 No doubt Lord Sherbrooke would have refuted all this 
 if he had chosen to do so, but he has not read his brief. 
 To use his own words in the paper mentioned above, " why 
 " should he waste his time in thinking, when he is already 
 " master of all that has been and all that can be said on 
 " the subject ? To try to impart to such a person a new 
 " idea is a sort of insult, for it implies that there is some- 
 " thing left for him to learn — which, as the mathematicians 
 " say, is absurd." 
 
 H. R. GEENFELL. 
 
BIMETALLISM. 
 
 At a 7nccting of the International Monetary Standard Association, 
 held in the Egyptian Hall of the Mansion House, on the 
 8th March, 1882, under the presidency of the Lord Mayor, 
 Mr. H. R. Grenfell, Governor of the Bank of England,^ 
 spoke as follows : — 
 
 My Lord Mayor and Gentlemen, — I must, 
 in the first place, apologise for venturing, in the position 
 which I occupy, to appear at a meeting of this kind at all. 
 As one of the custodians of the currency of the country, it 
 might be supposed that it would not be fitting for me to 
 take any part in a movement of this kind. But as long as 
 it is distinctly understood that I am only speaking as an 
 individual, and in no degree whatever giving the opinions 
 of my colleagues, I think there cannot be any reason 
 why I should not attend a meeting of the citizens of 
 London, after the somewhat lengthy study that I have 
 given to this question. I think it right to say that I am a 
 bullionist of the bullionists ; that I have been brought up 
 at the feet of a bullionist Gamaliel — if such an individual 
 could be found in history — and therefore it is utterly 
 impossible that I should swerve one single jot from that 
 principle in which I believe, viz., that it is necessary above 
 all things, that the currency and standard of this country 
 should be founded upon wise and honest principles. 
 Now, that being the case, I think it is not unfitting 
 
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 mat I should move the resolution which I hold in m^ 
 hands ; but at the same time, as the resolution seems toj 
 be almost a truism, you might wish also that I should] 
 make a very short introduction to the general questionj 
 as well as speak to the resolution. I 
 
 I presume it is known by all present that the standard! 
 of this country is a gold monometallic standard ; that] 
 it was instituted by the great statesman. Sir Kobert Peel ;| 
 and that it was approved by the w^ritings of another] 
 great statesman, viz., Lord Liverpool, who had given I 
 years to the study of the question. But it is not sol 
 generally known, and it is somewhat singular that itj 
 should have been so, that when Sir Eobert Peel brought] 
 forw^ard the measure for the resumption of cash payments] 
 and for the institution of a monometallic gold standardJ 
 he appealed to the House of Commons by every wishl 
 they had to act with good faith towards their creditors,] 
 that they should return to the ancient standard of the] 
 realm. I presume he meant that the ancient standard w^asj 
 a metallic standard ; but the fact is, it w^as not a mono-] 
 metallic gold standard at all. The ancient standard to] 
 which Sir E-obert Peel alluded Avas a bimetallic standard.) 
 Although there had been a monometallic standard in the! 
 country before, there had never been a gold one. There! 
 had been a silver standard up to the time of Sir Isaaoj 
 Newton, and subsequently to that a bimetallic standard up] 
 to the suspension of cash payments. I, therefore, who have] 
 had to go through the labour of examining most of thej 
 points which Lord Liverpool wrote about, and which Sirj 
 Robert Peel spoke of, have no hesitation in saying that I 
 believe if Sir Robert Peel and Lord Liverpool w^ere alive 
 at this moment, and were as keenly alive as they were I 
 in their own days to all the events passing around them, J 
 that they would have come to the conclusion that this 
 question must be reconsidered. Now, why do I come 
 to that conclusion? Just on this ground, that anion< 
 
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OOI 
 
 the reasons which Lord Liverpool gave for thinking it 
 absohitely necessary to liave a single standard, and that a 
 gold one, was that a statesman or state could only make men 
 obey within the limits of his or its own dominion. From that 
 I deduce the idea that there never came into his head the 
 possibility of various states agreeing on a subject like this. 
 Therefore, as the Lord Mayor has said, it is an entirely 
 new matter to be considered. But that is not all, for in one 
 of the best chapters of Lord Liverpool Ave find that he gave 
 a description of what he calls "bank money," which existed 
 in some of the great free ports in the last century in which 
 receipts were given for the deposit of bullion, and which 
 receipts passed amongst the great merchants of all classes 
 of trade. This at once, though upon a smaller scale, shows 
 that he contemplated that a good means of exchange might 
 be found by an agreement among interested parties in the 
 same place, though belonging to various nations. So 
 much for Lord Liverpool; but my reason for believing 
 that Sir Robert Peel might have been induced to 
 reconsider this question is that, as a statesman, he knew, 
 as all statesmen must, that it is not given to public men 
 to sit down in their room, devise a strictly systematic 
 plan, and carry it out ; but he knew that statesmen are 
 compelled to choose between two or three evils, and there- 
 fore he had the experience that it is impossible to neglect 
 the consideration of events which are passing around them. 
 What are these events which have occurred since the death 
 of Sir Robert Peel, or since he quitted public afiairs ? 
 They are practically a new set of events altogether. The 
 beginning of them was apparently an accident ; the first 
 event was the calling together of a Conference at Paris 
 in 1868, for the purpose of attempting to get a coinage of 
 all nations; and scarcely had they met when they found 
 it absolutely necessary to discuss the question of the 
 standards. But that Conference came to the conclusion 
 that the best of all possible standards was a monometallic 
 
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 gold standard, and, I believe, by a narrow majori^^assec 
 a resolution to that effect. Shortly afterwards there camf 
 the Franco-German War, and when a large quantity otft 
 the French gold had passed into Germany, it was not veryBI 
 unnatural that with the result of the Conference of 1868BI 
 before them the German Government resolved to use thefll 
 gold in order to inaugurate that which had been declaredw 
 solemnly to be the best of all possible standards. AlmostW 
 immediately the evils began to be shown arising from thisfll 
 great monetary revolution, and in 1878 another ConferenceHI 
 was called to again discuss the question, and in the absenceBI 
 of any German delegate at that Conference, they j)assed aBI 
 resolution unanimously that it would be a misfortune to theHI 
 world if the functions of silver in the coinage of the worldHI 
 should pass away. The next matter was the ConferenceBI 
 which is still, technically speaking, alive in Paris. TheHI 
 difference which existed between that and the previous oneHI 
 was that a German delegate appeared at that Conference,B| 
 took part in it, and made certain offers with respect to it,|| 
 which although they might not be all that was expected,H| 
 were at the same time most important offers. There isW 
 one other great change since the days of Lord Liverpool* H 
 There are now numberless agreements between States uponHI 
 all possible questions. We have postal and telegraph 
 agreements, i:)olice agreements and agreements for lighting 
 and signals, and other subjects in which the commercialBI 
 world is deeply interested. Therefore, what would appear 
 to the mind of Lord Liverpool to be impossible, might 
 appear to us to be one of the easiest things in the world. j 
 These are the general arguments which I venture to 
 submit to your notice with regard to this great and 
 important question, and if you will permit me now I would 
 say a few words with respect to some of the particular] 
 objections which are raised to what is called bimetallism. 
 In the first place, it is said that do what you will it is 
 utterly impossible to make a relative price between gold 
 Mr. H. R. Grcnfell 
 
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 and silver, and that, however much you may fix it, the laws 
 of Political Economy will be too much for you. They 
 say that the law of cost of production is so certain that it 
 is absolutely impossible to go against it. I will now give 
 an instance, and if I am wrong there will no doubt be 
 some here who know something about the question. The 
 metal called platinum costs a great deal more to produce 
 than gold, and yet you cannot get a pound of gold for a 
 pound of platinum, and why? Simply because gold, being 
 used for coinage, has a special monopoly and privilege 
 that renders this cost-of-production law inoperative. We 
 are told we are against science. I suppose everbody who 
 has watched within the last few years any of the various 
 discussions which have taken place knows exactly how 
 that word " science " is used. We know when A differs 
 from B and has proved his case, B says : " That is all 
 " very well, but it is not scientific." But what we must 
 look to when using such words as " science " is, what are 
 the facts? and the fact is that during the time when the 
 bimetallic law existed in France, the relative value of 
 the two metals was kept as close as possible to the French 
 legal price, notwithstanding the great fluctuations taking 
 place in both metals in the cost of production. It is like 
 the story of the old French Abbe who wrote an essay 
 on the Swedish Constitution to show that it was eternal, 
 and he had scarcely had the last proofs of it when 
 they came and told him there had been a revolution and 
 that the constitution was at an end. " They may destroy 
 " the constitution," said he, "but they cannot destroy my 
 " book;" and that is exactly the case with those gentlemen 
 who are always throwing the cost of production in the 
 face of those to whom I have alluded. But with rea-ard 
 to bimetallism being against nature, I think you will agree 
 that that is a general proposition ; for almost all things 
 in heaven and earth are against nature. Everything in 
 heaven is supernatural, and most things to be seen from 
 
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 the top of St. Paul's are interferences with nature, all thal| 
 has been done by human beings since II 
 
 " Man walked with beast joint tenants of the shade, ^^Bl 
 " The same his table, and the same his bed," ^^11 
 
 may be said to be against nature. We need not tli«l 
 trouble too much about these general propositions. The 
 great thing for those interested in this subject is to examine 
 it as carefully as they can; and therefore having saifl| 
 these few Avords in introduction of the general subject for 
 discussion I will pass to the resolution, which is to the 
 following eifect: — "That the contraction of the metallic 
 " basis of the world's currency by the exclusion of silvejl 
 " from its natural functions as domestic and Internationa™' 
 " money is to be deprecated as likely to render disturbances 
 " in the buying power of gold more frequent and violentJBl 
 I ask you all, have you calculated what the cost of the 
 demonetisation in Germany waa and the dislocation in 
 the value of the precious metals ? The amount that t 
 German Government coined was £87,000,000 sterling 
 gold, and that is equal, according to the average productio: 
 of the whole world for the last twenty years, to 3*3 years of 
 that whole production. But that is not all, as affects the 
 relative value of gold and silver, because besides buying 
 that amount of gold, or, rather, annexing it, they sold 
 £ 28,000,000 sterling of silver, which is equal to more than 
 two years of the average production of the whole world of 
 silver. That being the case, I ask you what you would 
 think supposing the Latin nations, our Indian Empire, and 
 the United States were to resort to some such measures as 
 the Gei-man Empire did? That is the problem we have 
 before us, and it is to this problem I invite your most 
 serious and intelligent consideration. 
 
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 Af the same meeting of the International Monetary Standard 
 Association, Mr. Henry II. Gibbs, President of the 
 Association, said: — 
 
 My Loud Mayor and Gentlemen, — You have 
 been good enough to ask me to say a few words upon this 
 question, but there is no resolution before the meeting at 
 this moment. The resolutions, happily, have all been 
 carried, if not unanimously, yet very nearly unanimously. 
 However, to put myself in order, as they say in another 
 place, I will state that I intend to end with a motion. But 
 first I should like to say a few words in answer to the 
 gentleman who spoke in the body of the hall. It would be 
 a great pity that his questions should not be answered, 
 although I believe there is hardly anybody in this hall but 
 knows the answers. He asks us, in the first place, why we 
 are to assume 15J as the proper ratio between gold and 
 silver. I say we do not assume anything of the kind. 
 There is no special virtue in 15^, but 15 J was once the 
 fixed proportion in England as it is now in France, as it is 
 in Germany, and as it is almost all OA^er Europe. When 
 that was the recognised ratio it was an approximate ratio. 
 It was not one that was mathematically correct; no ratio 
 ever was ; because if those gentlemen Avho spoke of the 
 cost of production were right, it must have varied every 
 second. The ratio was 15^ in active practice all over 
 Europe until Gennany demonetised her silver. Instantly 
 it was thrown down ; but if Germany to-morrow were to 
 remonetise silver, with the same rapidity it would come up 
 again. (A voice — " Exactly.") Therefore if we in England 
 should ever get so far in settling our minds about the 
 double standard that the arrangement of the ratio came 
 to be a question for consideration, and if that gentleman 
 should be put upon a Eoyal Commission to settle what the 
 
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 ratio sliould be, lie would find to his great surprise tliafl 
 before the Commission had sat at all the market price oH 
 silver would be at 15 J again, without his having had a word| 
 to say about it. Another question he put to us was, hoTW 
 are we to arrange between the various Governments, all am 
 whom he seems to think have different standards ; and ha 
 instanced the standard of gold in England, amongst otheJ 
 things, and the standard of gold in France. Well, ihm 
 standard is different, no doubt; but we have not the leas^ 
 difficulty in making our international payments when the}i 
 have to be made in gold, and we should not have the leasll 
 difficulty in making them even if they had to be made in 
 silver. But the remarks that our friend made upon thS 
 subject are really addressed not to an international standard! 
 but to an international coinage, which is a perfectlji 
 different thing. We should, indeed, in that case have ta 
 make up our minds whether we were to give up our soveJ 
 reign or whether France was to give up her napoleon. Bui 
 to accommodate the standard of our country to the standardj 
 of another is only a matter of arithmetic, of the rule ofl 
 three ; and the parity of value between the different coin-i 
 ages of the world is thus easily settled. I have no\ii 
 touched on some small details of the subject, referred to b^ 
 the gentleman who put these questions. I will now say m 
 few words on the general subject. I have gathered fronJ 
 what has passed to-day and from what has been passing] 
 now for the last year or so, that we have all made up our 
 minds by this time as to what we do not want and as t< 
 what we do want. Now, when a monometallist wants U 
 say something disagreeable, wants to throw a stone at 
 bimetallist, and does not know where to look for it (I thin] 
 it is a very difficult thing for him to find it), he says 
 " I see what you are about. You want cheap money : yot 
 " want abundance of money." Well, I have no objectioi 
 to abundance of money, especially if it is in my own pocketi 
 and as regards abundance of money, generally, abundance 
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 of the circulating medium as compared with scarcity of 
 tlie circuhiting medium, I prefer al)undance. Abundance 
 brings mischief with it ; but it brings some good. Scarcity 
 brings mischief with it, and does not bring anything else. 
 Therefore you may desire abundance so far, but abundance 
 is not the point we are aiming at. What we do want is 
 stabiUty. What we do want is enough monetary circula- 
 tion to serve for the wants of commerce, and progressively 
 enough to serve for the progressive wants of commerce. 
 If we mean by abundance something more than we want, — 
 a little more than we can spend, — we do not desire anything 
 of that kind. But stability we do want, and I do not need 
 to convince you, nor to convince anybody else, I suppose, 
 who has studied the subject, that stability is a consequence 
 of having a double standard : that is to say, a greater 
 measure of stability. For a testimony of this I appeal, as 
 Sir George Campbell has already appealed, to one of the 
 chief prophets of the monometallists, whose argument 
 referred to by Sir George Campbell was a very ingenious 
 argument. His way of putting it is this : He suj^poses you 
 to have two vessels, one a yellow one and one a white one, 
 both half full of water, and then, if, as Sir George says, 
 there is a heavy drain upon one of them, say the yellow 
 vessel, it is soon empty, or if more water were wanted and 
 it were poured into the silver vessel, it would run over the 
 sides of the vessel. But if you had a pipe connecting the 
 two vessels at the bottom, so that the level of the water in 
 them is the same, though you take as much as you please 
 from one of them or add as much as you please to one of 
 them the level at the top is still the same. Well, then, I 
 have now said what we do not want and what we do want ; 
 I will now say a little about why we want it. I will not 
 say that we want it because the present state of things is 
 intolerable ; but I will say, that it is far from satisfactory 
 and threatens danger in the future, danger in the scramble 
 for gold, and danger in the depreciation of silver, and I 
 
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 appea^gamto another monometallist chanipion. Accord- i 
 ing to liim, and lie is a very able man and statistician, ; 
 very trustworthy when he does not speak against bi- 
 metallism — the existing state of affairs is an exceedingly \ 
 dangerous one. I daresay it is, and therefore we want 
 Avhat will guard against that danger. Our opponents say ! 
 " That is all very well, but the thing you desire is impossi- 
 " ble. It is impossible to make any agreement with any- 
 " body." I do not think that is the case. We have heard a | 
 great deal of late of the international concert. I do not see 
 why we should not have an international concert in metals 
 as well as in politics. I think the metallic concert would 
 be the most harmonious and most lasting of the two. As 
 to the matter of impossibility, I would repeat the words of 
 a great man in regard to that : " If it is possible," he said, i 
 " it has been done already ; if it is impossible, it shall be 
 " done." I say that it is possible, and has been done already; i 
 and, when I say that I am only stating simple facts, because | 
 this impossible thing was done in France for seventy years, 
 and " nobody seemed one penny the worse," but on the 
 contrary appeared to be extremely well off. We have heard 
 a good deal about the scientific part of the story from 
 Mr. Grenfell. I want just to tell you one of the particular! 
 views of its scientific character. "It is all very well," a man 
 said to me, "you may argue as much as you please, but you 
 " will never turn me away from the great scientific principle ■ 
 " of one metal for the currency between peo^^le who trade 
 " one with another." My answer to him was and is now — 
 " There are two great scientific principles. There is the 
 " principle of unity, and there is the principle of uniformity ; 
 ^' but the world has given up unity. They cannot have it, 
 " and they won't have it. Uniformity we can have, and 
 " sooner or later it appears to me we shall have it — that is a 
 " uniform system of the two metals accepted by all as money." 
 My next answer was — "As to your scientific principle, 
 " which you won't be turned away from, you are turned away 
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 " from it every day. You give it up if there is the slightest 
 " strain upon it. You tell me it is necessary for a man in 
 " London dealing with a man in York to know exactly what 
 *' he is to receive. Well, then, I say it is necessary also 
 " for a man in London dealing with a man in New York.* 
 " Your scientific principle is unseaworthy ; no sooner does 
 " it get on board ship than it goes to the bottom. It cannot 
 " venture across from Dover to Calais, still less can it go to 
 " New York." I have no more to say at this time upon the 
 subject itself. But there is one thing I should like to say, 
 and that is, that I perceive a great alteration since I went 
 to the Conference in Paris in 1878 in the feeling of the 
 people generally about this matter. I had not a word to 
 say then in favour of bimetallism, because I had not 
 opened my eyes sufficiently, but at that time if anyone in 
 England did venture to suggest such a thing he w^as thought 
 to be a lunatic. As has been said before, whatever w^e in 
 this little island have been accustomed to do we think is 
 absolutely right, and that whatever is done by the rest of 
 the nations of the world is absolute lunacy. However, 
 for that or other reasons any persons who thought of such 
 a thins: at that time were called lunatics. But now the tone 
 which speakers adopt in reference to bimetallism is very 
 different, and the way in w^hich they look at the matter is 
 very different also. They see that there is danger in the 
 present state of things, and they think it right that the 
 plans wdiich are proposed to meet the danger should be 
 considered seriously and not be put on one side as if the 
 proposers Avere asserting the flatness of the world or making 
 endeavours to square the circle. We are now listened to 
 with patience ; and, to come to the motion upon which I 
 rose to speak, I think the Lord Mayor is an example of 
 that patience. He has been listening to us for two hours 
 with exemplary patience. I hope he has been in some 
 degree rewarded for that patience by the interest he has 
 taken in the conversation w^hich has been going on. I 
 
830 
 
 think he not only showed his patience, but proved his ] 
 ness in giving us this hall to talk in. The motion I 
 to submit to you is — " That the best thanks of this meeting 
 " be given to the Lord Mayor for his kindness and 
 " hospitality in taking us in under his roof and giving us 
 « this room in which to hold our Conference." 
 
THE SCIUMBLE FOR GOLD. 
 
 From the BuUUmist, March 18, 1882. 
 
 Some of our contemporaries are never tired of pointing to 
 the effect of the late action of the Bank of England in 
 raising the rate of discount to 6 per cent., and assuring 
 themselves and their readers that a complete and rapid 
 success of that action in increasing the bullion in the Issue 
 Department is a convincing proof that there can be no 
 necessity for any reform in our present monetary system. 
 
 Nowhere is this assurance more clearly and more 
 jubilantly expressed than in an otherwise well-written 
 and thoughtful article in the Saturday Review of the 
 25th of last month, on the " Eesults of the Six per Cent. 
 Kate." 
 
 We reproduce the last paragraph of the article in ques- 
 tion, and propose to make for the benefit of our readers 
 such remarks on it as may be necessary to expose the 
 fallacies with which it is somewhat thickly sown : — 
 
 " The experience we have now had of the efficiency of the 
 " 6 per cent. Bank rate, in spite of all that is said of the scarcity of 
 " gold and of the international struggle for gold, ought to convince 
 " bimetallists that this country at least is not likely to suffi3r 
 " seriously through gold becoming scarce. Rich countries can 
 ^' always buy whatever they require of any commodity, and England 
 " being the richest of countries can have as much gold as it pleases, 
 
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 and when it pleases. In spite of the panic in Paris, of the^ 
 Italian preparations for resumption of specie payments, and all, 
 the demands from so many quarters for gold, three short weeks 
 have seen the Bank of England replenish its stock of bullion and 
 raise its reserve more than two millions. And although under 
 other circumstances a 6 per cent, rate might not be equally effec- 
 tive, we have full assurance that some rate will be effective and 
 that England need never fear a scarcity of gold. Gold, in fact, 
 will flow to the market where its use is most profitable, and that 
 market is found in London. No doubt the United States and 
 France are also rich enough to obtain as much gold as they may 
 require, and they therefore, like England, are justified in main- 
 taining a gold standard. But poor countries like Italy, Germany, 
 and some others arc not so justified. They suffer serious loss by 
 affecting to compete with countries so much more powerful in 
 resources than themselves. Italy at present is so little prepared 
 for a gold currency that, though she has a considerable amount 
 of gold for which she is paying a heavy interest, she does not 
 dare to put that gold in circulation, knowing that it would 
 instantly flow away to London." 
 
 The Reviewer appears to imagine that bimetallists are 
 beset by an unreasoning dread that this country Avill have 
 to stand helpless and with folded hands while it is either 
 being absolutely denuded of gold, or seeing gold become so 
 scarce that the circulation is dangerously and permanently 
 contracted ; and tells us triumphantly that England — and 
 the United States and France too for that matter — are 
 quite rich enough to buy as much gold as they please and 
 as often as they please. 
 
 Now here are two patent mistakes. The fears of the 
 bimetallists arc misapprehended, and the remedy so con- 
 fidently exhibited is itself one cause of the disease. 
 
 Gold leaves this country, and will always leave it from 
 time to time; but it is only to redress the balance of trade 
 that it does so — that is, to make up the difi'crence when the 
 imports have exceeded the exports — to pay cash, so to speak, 
 
 Mr. H. H, Gibbs. 
 
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 when we have not goods wherewith to pay ; and inasmuch 
 as the balance of trade is necessarily variable, bullion will 
 and must go, and no one need dread its going. No wise 
 bimetallist will dread it, and no one who knows anything 
 about the matter ever doubted that a timely rise in the rate 
 of discoimt would bring bullion back again. 
 
 No doubt we can " buy " gold, not only as the Saturday 
 Review is pleased to put it, as much as we please and as 
 often as we please, but also as dear as we please. 
 
 It is that dearness that we dread, and not without reason, 
 if not only France and the United States, as the Keviewer 
 says, but Germany also and Italy (wisely or unwisely) are 
 bidding for it in the same auction-room. 
 
 We are the richest, say the dwellers in a fool's paradise, 
 and we can always buy it ! Certainly we can ; but at what 
 a cost ! But it is not only dearness that is to be dreaded. 
 Dearness, moderate and steady dearness, is tolerable, and 
 even advantageous ; but excessive dearness, especially if it 
 be fitful and oscillating, is highly prejudicial to trade. A 
 constant rate of discount of 6 or even 5 per cent, is no 
 pleasant subject for contemplation ; but a rate frequently 
 varying, but always high and sometimes at fever point, 
 would be far worse than a rate of moderate height but 
 reasonably constant. 
 
 So that that very power of buying (possessed by others as 
 well as ourselves) which the Reviewer vaunts as our rock 
 of safety, is the rock on which we split ; and the so-called 
 antidote which he holds to our lips is itself a poison. 
 
 The Reviewer hugs himself again in the fallacious 
 reflection that England and one or two other nations are 
 alone worthy to have a gold currency, and that inferior 
 communities, such as Germany, Italy, and Austria, must be 
 content Avith the inferior metal. In writing thus he seems 
 to us to have misapprehended the nature and cost of a 
 metallic currency. 
 
 Any metallic money, whether gold or silver, any medium 
 
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 of exchange aS^neasure of value which is made oTacom^ 
 modity possessing itself intrinsic value, is necessarily an 
 expensive luxury, and must be bought and paid for. Every i 
 sovereign of the £ 120,000,000 supposed to be in circulation 
 in England, whether in the coffers of the Bank or in the 
 pockets of the lieges, has been purchased by an equal value I 
 of English goods. Every silver dollar in circulation in 
 Italy has been paid for in silk or wine or oil, or other 
 Italian produce ; and so it must be in every nation in which j 
 gold or silver being in circulation as money are neither the I 
 produce of the land itself nor the spoils of war other than 
 compensation for war expenses. I 
 
 But if it be true that gold and silver purchase other 
 commodities by dint of their own intrinsic value (whatever 
 may be the co-efficients of that value), it must follow that j 
 it must cost a nation just as much to procure a silver 
 coinage as a gold one. For every commodity exchangeable ; 
 by means of money must be measured by a quantity of i 
 money exactly its equivalent in value; and just as "a! 
 " pound of lead is equal to a pound of feathers," so the i 
 cost of a quarter of wheat must be the same whether the 
 Italian measures it in gold or silver. 
 
 A silver coinage then is suitable to a poor nation, not 
 at all because its initial cost is cheaper than a gold one, 
 but because the commerce of such a nation being made up 
 of smaller transactions than that of her richer neighbours 
 that coined metal is most convenient which is capable of 
 the most minute subdivision of value. 
 
 Therefore, though Italy may possibly be unwise, even 
 under the present uncertainty of the future value of silver, 
 in choosing gold rather than silver for money, it is 
 not because as a poor nation she is not "justified" in! 
 adopting it. I 
 
 If, then, gold is naturally more suitable for great com- 
 mercial transactions, it would seem that it is by natural 
 and not by arbitrary selection that gold has hitherto formed 
 
 Mr, H, H. Gihhs. \ 
 
235 
 
 sometimes a part and sometimes the whole of the standard 
 money of countries whose commercial transactions are large, 
 and silver alone the standard money of those countries 
 whose commerce is less advanced. 
 
 But the cause of the present disturbance of the values 
 of gold and silver is that some of these latter nations (and 
 notably Germany) have thought proper to reject their 
 ancient money and arbitrarily to select that which Ave 
 suppose to be less well suited to their commerce. 
 
 Their action has been a resistance to natural tendencies, 
 and Ave doubt not that if a remedy be found for the existing 
 dislocation of the metals in the establishment of a conven- 
 tion between the principal commercial nations for the 
 adoption of gold and silver jointly and at a fixed ratio for 
 their standard money, the natural allocation to which we 
 have above referred Avould again prevail ; and though 
 silver and gold Avould still be legal tender in all countries 
 which w^ould be parties to the convention, yet it seems certain 
 that gold would prevail in England as heretofore, and 
 silver in Germany and Italy when Italy has once resumed 
 specie payments. 
 
 As to the late and present action of Italy in this respect, 
 the " RevicAver " has failed to apprehend the true history of 
 the matter. 
 
 He supposes that the Italian Government " does not 
 " dare to put the gold into circulation, knoAving that it 
 " Avould instantly floAV aAvay to London ; " but prefers to 
 lose interest in vain, by keeping it locked up. 
 
 Italy loses no more interest on her gold than she Avill 
 always lose so long as she has the luxury of a valuable 
 currency. She never proposed to put her gold into circu- 
 lation until she should have completed the full tale of 
 £16,000,000 sterling prescribed by the laAv. 
 
 Were she to do so then or noAv Avithout calling in an 
 equivalent sum of her paper currency, the gold Avould of 
 couL'se floAv out to London or elscAyh^re, because the circu- 
 
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 286 
 
 laKon would be redundant, and the more valuable portioi 
 of it would be the first to depart. 
 
 But inasmuch as it is intended to call in an equal 
 quantity of paper currency, thus leaving the volume oi 
 her circulation (presumably not now too much inflated^ 
 unaltered, we do not see what is to carry the gold! 
 away. 
 
 Two things only will do it, the shifting of the balance! 
 of trade, or the lowness of the rate of discount. If thej 
 balance of trade turn against the country, she will have to 
 redress it, as England has been doing lately, by payments 
 in specie ; but that operation will last only so long as the] 
 rate of interest is lower in Italy (in proportion to the credit! 
 of the country) than in other countries with which she] 
 trades. When the rate of interest rises sufficiently the] 
 outflow of gold will cease. 
 
 Italy is now accumulating her gold, not by the natural] 
 law which regulates the outflow and inflow of the precious 
 metals, but really by the way of purchase, intercepting thatj 
 which would naturally come to this market. When she] 
 has got her gold and put it into circulation by the legiti-j 
 mate means of cancelling her notes, she will fight to retain 
 it ; and the Aveapon with which she will fight is our own 
 weapon — the rate of discount. 
 
 That such a battle can be fought without serious] 
 and far-reaching commercial disturbance will hardly bei 
 contended. 
 
 Many will be the casualties recorded, and not to the 
 weaker nations only, in the course of the struggle for 
 gold. 
 
 HENRY H. GIBBS. 
 
CONCERNING FAITH IN TREATIES. 
 
 From The BulUomst, April 15, 1882. 
 
 There is a well-known chapter in Ilorrebow's History of 
 Iceland, entitled "Concerning Snakes in Iceland," and the 
 chapter consists of but six words: "There are no snakes in 
 Iceland." Our article might be as short, and might be 
 confined to the words " There is no faith in Treaties," 
 but that we wish to point out why there is no faith in 
 them, and to finish, like a sermon, with an application. 
 
 The history of the world is the history of the making 
 and the breaking of treaties. Treaties of peace are 
 succeeded by declarations of war — allies become enemies, 
 commercial treaties are succeeded by "Berlin decrees"^ 
 and that which was made for the good of two nations is 
 overturned by the unwisdom of one to the detriment of 
 both, and not unfrequently in greater measure to the harm 
 of the nation at whose instance the treaty has been 
 annulled. 
 
 Inter anna silent leges, war tears all treaties ; but even 
 without open war selfishness and supposed self-interest are 
 too strong for the bands of any treaty, and whether the 
 terms are imposed by a conqueror or settled by amicable 
 agreement a change in the dispositions of the contracting 
 parties will certainly bring the treaty to the ground. The 
 conquered nation feels herself strong enough to tear the 
 treaty imposed by her enemy — whether in the Black Sea 
 or elsewhere — or if two nations have made a treaty — it 
 may be concerning the Isthmus of Panama, or otherwise 
 
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 — for their mutual protection or for the general good of] 
 commerce, one of them may think an advantage is toj 
 be gained by abrogating it, and will say candidly and 
 cynically to the other, "Don't you see that it is in some] 
 parts disadvantageous to us? You can't expect us to be 
 bound by it!" I 
 
 Self-interest, real or imaginary, it is that in all cases 
 dictates the breaking of any national engagement, and it is 
 because the promptings of self-interest will never cease 
 that we say there is no faith in treaties. ■I 
 
 These very true but very trite sayings are amongst the 
 weapons wherewith our opponents attack the advocates of 
 the bimetallic standard. "Put not your trust in treaties," ■I 
 say they. " Who is to guarantee that if you make a treaty 
 " or convention with Austria, Belgium, Chile, Denmark, and 
 " the rest of the alphabet of foreign States down to Zanzibar, 
 " some one or more of them, moved thereto by self-interest,j 
 " wantonness, or war, will not secede from your convention,! 
 " trample on the treaty, and overturn the whole fabric of j 
 " your bimetallic league ? " 
 
 Doubtless it is impossible to guarantee that no one shall 
 secede, but we think we shall prove that it is in the highest 
 degree unlikely that there should be any such secession — -j 
 first, because it would be to no one's interest to secede,] 
 and second because it would be an operation of extreme i 
 difficulty. Moreover, we shall show that if such secessionj 
 were accomplished it would not break up the league, and; 
 would indeed be of very little moment. 
 
 How would a nation intending to secede from such a 
 league set about it. 
 
 The changing from one metallic standard to another 
 would be comparatively a very easy undertaking, though 
 extremely costly to the Government which undertakes it. fll 
 The discarded metal is called in, paid for in the adopted 
 metal, and sold in other countries at a loss, yet Germany, 
 even though aided by the enormous inpouring of gold from 
 
 Mr, If. H. Gihbs. 
 
 I 
 
239 
 
 the French indemnity has lately found that however easy 
 it may be to undertake such an operation it is exceedingly 
 difficult to carry it through. 
 
 The changing from a paper currency to a metallic one 
 is extremely easy, hut very costly either to the Government 
 which makes the change, and through them to the people 
 who pay for it in taxes, or else directly to the debtor class. 
 The former is the case of Italy, w^ho is looking forward to 
 the very desirable but very expensive luxury of a metallic 
 circulation; the latter was the case of England at the 
 resumption of cash payments in 1816. 
 
 But the changing from a bimetallic to a monometallic 
 system is a very different matter, when the nation desiring 
 to change is one of a group of States having a double 
 standard of money, and we fail to see how such a nation 
 can set about divesting itself of one metal and retaining 
 only the other without passing through the stage of a paper 
 currency. It may seem a simple thing to suspend the free 
 mintage of one of the metals as France has done with 
 silvery but if her neighbours had been bimetallic also 
 France w^ould never have been frightened into doing so, 
 nor would any nation in that case have any temptation to 
 follow her example, seeing that if she did she would not 
 get rid of her silver, as that example shows. But some 
 one may say, " Could she not send it to England as 
 " Germany did ? the cost of sending would be nothing." 
 True, she would make no immediate loss in doing so, for 
 England would by the hypothesis be bound to receive it 
 and coin it into double florins; but w^hat then? How 
 would she obtain the gold in its place? It is the right of 
 the debtor to choose which metal he will pay in, and she 
 would have no remedy but to receive the English silver 
 coin which would be tendered to her, and would have her 
 labour for her pains. No, there is but one practicable way 
 in which a nation once entering a bimetallic league can 
 separate herself from her fellows without heavy and useless 
 
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 loss, and that is by discarding altogether her metallicJ 
 money and resorting to a paper currency, after wliich if] 
 she chose she might do as England did in 1816, and adopt 
 a single standard. But that any nation would suspend 
 cash j)ayments unless it were to provide for the cost of a 
 war seems in the highest degree improbable. J 
 
 War certainly would, as our opponents say, abrogate 
 treaties between belligerents, but we fail to see that war 
 would necessarily have, or, indeed, would have at all any 
 eiFect upon this particular treaty, or could afford any 
 inducement to a belligerent to break it. Our contemporary, 
 the Economist, supposes indeed that it might probably be 
 broken as an act of war, and to do damage to an enemy, 
 but fails to show what hostile or hurtful effect it w^ould 
 have on the antagonist. We will presently show that it 
 would have none. 
 
 In order to this we will first point out what the 
 supposed convention would be, and secondly what iti 
 would not be. I 
 
 Omitting minor details, it would be this: — That the] 
 contracting parties would engage to open their mints to| 
 the free coinage of both gold and silver, either metal at 
 the option of the debtor being legal tender in the proportion 
 of 1 to 15^. 
 
 It would not be the prohibition of any State to continue 
 or to resort to the issue of paper money. England, for 
 instance, who prides herself on the simplicity of her mono- 
 metallic gold standard, would not be asked to give up her 
 fifteen millions of paper circulation, which though payable 
 in gold is not based, as the rest of the circulation is, upon 
 a direct deposit of bullion. 
 
 A nation, then, resorting to an issue of paper money, 
 whether complete or partial, would not ijiso facto infringe 
 the letter of the treaty ; nor would the measure of itself 
 have any hostile or damaging effect upon the adversary. 
 It is true that a nation 
 
 Mr. II. II. Gibbs. 
 
 I 
 
 so actinff would have denied itself 
 
241 
 
 the expensive luxury of metallic money in order the better 
 to be able to levy war. She might conquer her enemy 
 with the armaments which her discarded bullion would 
 buy, but the fact of her discarding it, or of her secession 
 from the convention, would not and could not be an act of 
 hostility. Tlie paper-using nation would be thereafter 
 wholly outside the convention, and would exercise no 
 influence upon it. She would in monetary matters be a 
 neutral. She might even wholly discard metallic money 
 and yet fulfil every article of the treaty to the letter, for 
 she might safely adhere to her promise and coin every 
 ounce of silver or gold brought to her mint for the purpose, 
 inasmuch as it is abundantly obvious that not an ounce 
 would be so brought ; and this would be the case whether 
 the secession, formal or virtual, were the offspring of war 
 or of caprice. All the metallic circulation would have left 
 the country (in accordance with the " Gresham Law "), 
 and would have gone to augment the circulation of other 
 commercial nations — silver and gold indifferently to the 
 bimetallic nations, and if there were any outside the 
 convention, then silver to the silver-using nations and gold 
 to those whose money was gold. 
 
 Now what we desire to impress upon our readers is that 
 this last result is precisely what would follow from the 
 adoption of a paper currency by a nation under stress of 
 war or otherwise at this present time, and could not there- 
 fore in any sense be traced to the adoption of a bimetallic 
 standard. The immediate result of it would be exactly 
 the same now in the absence of a bimetallic convention 
 as it would be if such a convention existed ; but the 
 practical consequences to other nations would be somewhat 
 more decided in the former case than in the latter. 
 
 Let us take Italy for example. 
 
 If after completing her resumption of cash payments 
 and withdrawing £16,000,000 of paper currency she were 
 unhappily to go to war, she would most probably think 
 
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 herself obliged to undo her work and re-issue paper. The 
 £16,000,000 of gold would flow over, not into all othei 
 nations, but exclusively into those having a gold standard^ 
 and the eiFect, prejudicial or otherwise, would be so much' 
 the greater ; for if she had entered with others into a 
 bimetallic convention the £16,000,000 would, or mightjHI 
 be partly gold and partly silver, and the metal would pass 
 
 having 
 
 a bimetallic, 
 
 into the currency of all nations 
 standard. 
 
 But let us suppose for the sake of argument that 
 nation bound by a bimetallic convention had succeeded h 
 separating herself from her co-signatories, and adoj)tingj 
 let us say, a single gold standard. Beyond the confusioi 
 and mischief which the operation, whether successful oi 
 not, would have caused, no permanent alteration of prices 
 would ensue. Her silver would have passed to her neigh- 
 bours, and they would all have been laid under a contribution' 
 of an equal value in gold. They would but stand where 
 France stood for seventy years, not however as France did, 
 alone, but supporting one another, and not as France did, 
 with all the world drawing from her one metal or the 
 other, but with only one or one additional monometalHc 
 nation capable of doing any such thing. H 
 
 Even if all the nations parties to the convention were 
 to become monometallic but one, that one would stand 
 exactly in the same position and under the same condition^!! 
 as France did until 1873 ; and we take leave to think that 
 the "sufferings" of France under those circumstances, 
 existed only in the imaginations of our own countrymen^ 
 Certainly the French failed to discover them. 
 
 We return to what we said at the beginning of this 
 article. There is no faith in treaties where self-interes 
 points to their destruction ; but the conclusion to which 
 the above considerations lead us is that that one incentive 
 which is necessary to the breaking of treaties would 
 altogether lacking in the case of a treaty for the main 
 
 
243 
 
 tenance of a bimetallic standard in commercial nations. 
 Not only can no ground of self-interest be discovered for 
 destroying such a treaty, but self-interest would be strong 
 enough in any nation in which both metals were by treaty 
 with other nations in like case current as standard money, 
 to cause her to cling to a system the destruction of which 
 by herself alone could only be accomplished at the cost of 
 confusion to her commerce and heavy loss to her exchequer. 
 
 HENRY H. GIBBS. 
 
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THE VALUE OF MONEY. 
 
 From The BuUionist, May 20, 1882. 
 
 Our contemporary, the Economist, sums up his leading 
 article on " Bimetallism and the Bank Eeserve," in the 
 issue of the 8th of April, by saying that " whatever results 
 " might follow from the adoption of a bimetallic standard 
 " we may be certain . . . that cheaper money would not 
 " follow from it, nor fewer fluctuations in the English 
 " money market." 
 
 If the writer of the article supposed that bimetallists 
 expected the adoption of a bimetallic standard to cause 
 the rate of interest on loans to be permanently low, to 
 bring about a new era of " cheap money," unvaried by any 
 fluctuations, it would have been easy for him to have found 
 arguments good enough to dispel such a hope. But no 
 such expectation has ever been entertained, so far as has 
 come to our knowledge, and we shall presently show that 
 his arguments do not touch the real effect which the 
 adoption of a bimetallic standard would produce. 
 
 Much of the error that seems inseparable from the sub- 
 ject of money arises, as most errors do, from a confusion of 
 terms; and we propose to show in this article where the 
 error lies, and what phrase it is that is so much abused in 
 common parlance. The Economist perceives and strives 
 to avoid the confusion, but it has not carried out what it 
 has perceived to its legitimate conclusion, nor, indeed, 
 would it have suited the course of its argument fully to 
 do so. 
 
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 It is the phrase at the head of our article — Value of 
 Money — which is so frequently misused by being employed 
 now in one sense now in another. 
 
 There is one simple and plain meaning of the phrase — 
 the only philosophical one — which implies the comparison 
 between money — between the gold, silver, or whatever 
 substance is used as the common measure — and other 
 commodities. What is the value of a quarter of wheat? 
 So much of that common measure — so much money. 
 What is the value of money ? So much wheat, or other 
 commodities that may be measured by it. 
 
 The value of money at large wanes or waxes in com- 
 parison with the mass of other commodities in the exact 
 ratio to the quantity of money in the world and of 
 commodities exchangeable for money. 
 
 It is to the value of money in this sense that Professor 
 Jevons no doubt refers in his famous similitude of the two 
 reservoirs of water liable to be differently lowered or raised 
 in level by various accidents happening to one or the other, 
 but which when connected by a pipe passing between them 
 maintain the same level whatever happens. 
 
 When gold is money in one country and silver is money 
 in another, a great increase in the quantity of gold, such as 
 was caused by the discoveries in Australia and California, 
 lowers the value of gold money in relation to silver and all 
 other commodities, while the relation of silver money to all 
 commodities but gold remains unchauged ; a great increase 
 in the quantity of silver, such as took place after the Spanish 
 conquests in America, has exactly the converse effect. 
 
 The pipe of connection is, as Professor Jevons says, 
 the law of the bimetallic standard. When that is applied, 
 the increase of either metal is an increase, not of the gold 
 or silver money respectively, but of the total money of the 
 world, and, all other things being equal, a rise in the price 
 or value of the mass of other conmiodities, and a fall in 
 the value of money ; the decrease of either metal, on the 
 
 Mr. H, U, Gibbs. 
 
247 
 
 other hand, is a decrease in the total money of the world, 
 a rise in its value, and a corresponding fall in the price or 
 value of the mass of commodities measured by it. 
 
 So then the writer of the article in the Economist is 
 manifestly in error where he says that " Professor Jevons' 
 '• observations on the point do not refer to the value of 
 " money at all," and his saying so appears to us to be a 
 striking instance of the confusion of thought and ambiguity 
 of utterance on which we have remarked ; for it is precisely 
 to the value of money in the proper sense of the phrase — 
 that is to say, to the value of metallic money as compared 
 with commodities — that he does refer. 
 
 But it is not to that only that his illustration applies; 
 and we propose to show that the equilibratory action of the 
 bimetallic standard must affect the "value of money," taking 
 that phrase in its most common and least accurate sense. 
 
 In the common acceptation of the term it is used — in 
 City articles and the like — not at all for the value or 
 purchasing power of metallic money, but for the rate of 
 interest to be paid for the loan of capital, as, for instance, 
 for the price to be paid for the immediate command of the 
 sum drawn by a bill of exchange before the time when it 
 would probably become due. 
 
 We may say in passing that in this sense the saying of 
 the Economist that "the value of money is reckoned in 
 " money itself " is indeed intelligible, but seems to us to 
 be a very slipshod mode of speech, and not less so than 
 the statement in the same paragraph that ^* money can 
 " buy money." Money can buy commodities of all kinds, 
 including gold and silver, when either of these are not 
 money; but money it cannot buy. If it can, we would 
 repeat the question which has been asked elsewhere in 
 reply to the same statement — " How much of it can one 
 " have for a sovereign? " 
 
 To return to Professor Jevons' equilibratory action, 
 and to the belief in universal and continuous "cheapness 
 
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 " of money" which the Economist attributes to bimetallists. 
 It would indeed be absurd to allege that the establishment 
 of a bimetallic standard would do away with fluctuations 
 in the market rate of interest. Those fluctuations are 
 inevitable, and must take place from day to day according 
 as the demand for loans and the supply of capital to be lent 
 correspond or not with one another. But the Economist , 
 in citing J. S. Mill as a witness, misleads its readers; for 
 by his words, where he says that "the rate of interest 
 " does not depend on the quantity of money in circulation," 
 he certainly means " on the total quantity of money in 
 *' circulation in the world." It is hardly necessary to say 
 that it may depend on the quantity of metallic money in 
 circulation at any given moment in any particular country, 
 and does depend in England, and that to a very considerable 
 extent, on the amount of gold existing in the Bank. 
 
 The rate of interest depends then on the demand for 
 and supply of capital available for loans, which demand, 
 as the Economist truly says, includes in itself " every 
 " demand arising from trade or commerce or from any other 
 "source"; but the supply, under our laws, depends more 
 particularly on the balance of trade and the necessity of 
 paying the foreigner in cash that which at the moment we 
 cannot pay in kind. Gold in that case leaves the vaults of 
 the Bank of England for export, and by that means as by 
 any other, such as for the needs of the Scottish circulation 
 or for harvest purposes at home, the reserve of the Bank 
 is diminished and there is less capital to lend, the supply 
 falls short of the demand, and the cost of that supply, that 
 is to say the rate of interest on loans is enhanced. 
 
 All these eft'ects are inseparable from our commerce 
 under the salutary provisions of the Act of 1844, and are 
 wholly independent of the question whether two metals or 
 only one should be used as money. The difference arises 
 at a further stage, that is to say when the amount of 
 capital available for loans is again being augmented by means 
 
 I 
 
249 
 
 of the rise of the rate of interest here and the consequent 
 attraction of foreign capital to take the benefit of it. 
 
 Under a gold standard the metal which is to replenish 
 our circulation comes practically, so far as it is attracted 
 by a high rate of interest, from France or the United 
 States or Australia only, and before enough can come it 
 may be necessary that the rate shall be raised higher and 
 higher and through a longer period of time. But if the 
 void could be supplied by silver as well as gold, every 
 country using a metallic standard would be a well from 
 whence we could draw, and as a consequence of the 
 multitude of sources of supply would come competition 
 for supplying us, and therefore a lower rate of interest in 
 this market would suffice to create an inducement to our 
 neighbours to provide the supply. 
 
 The converse of this would of course be the case when 
 the tide set the other way, so that when the demand was 
 for the export of specie from this country there would be 
 a greater number of markets drawing upon us for their 
 supply. So then the fluctuations of capital to and fro 
 would be more continual, and consequently the changes 
 in the rate of interest might be more frequent ; but both 
 the sums passing and the rates charged would be for the 
 reasons above stated less considerable in amount ; and this 
 is exactly what has been demonstrated by Professor Jevons. 
 
 We believe, then, that we have shown that while no 
 sane person hopes to do away with the national fluctuations 
 in the " value of money," that is to say in the rate of 
 interest on loans, there is reason to believe that under a 
 bimetallic law., to quote the words of the Economist, " the 
 " replenishing of the reserve of the Bank of England 
 ^' would be done more readily than before, and that a lower 
 " rate of interest would be sufficient for this than has 
 " hitherto been the case," or rather than would be the case 
 under the continuance of a monometallic standard. 
 
 HENRY H. GIBBS. 
 
THE EATIO or VALUE BETWEEN 
 GOLD AND SILYEE. 
 
 From the BuUiomst, May 20, 1882. 
 
 TO THE EDITOR. 
 
 Sir, — I beg leave to offer for the consideration of 
 readers of the Bullionist a view of the bimetallic question 
 which may perhaps not have been presented to them by 
 any other of your correspondents. I am one of those who 
 question the assertion that any bimetallic law does, or can, 
 alter or do, more than very slightly affect the natural and 
 intrinsic ratio of value existing between gold and silver. 
 The bimetallists distinctly assert that the force of law will 
 avail to make gold and silver coins in currency exchange 
 at the rate of 1 oz. of gold for 15 J ozs. of silver, irrespec- 
 tive of the fact that the same metals are exchanging in 
 the market in quite another ratio, and expect that if the 
 nations agree to employ gold and silver on those terms in 
 their currencies the metals when not used for cmTcncy 
 purposes will sell at a corresponding valuation, because no 
 holder of silver will sell at any other price. It is for them 
 to show that by law or otherwise the ratio of 1 to 15 J can 
 be established as a permanent condition in the exchange 
 of the precious metals. I have heard it asserted, but never 
 seen it proved to be possible. 
 
 It is probable that the sic volo sic jubeo of the American 
 and Continental Governments will give a value to silver 
 
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 which it does not na 
 when the ratio of 1 to 
 
 turally possess ? Or is it likely that 
 
 15 J is declared to rule the legal 
 
 tender and exchange, the necessary result will be that no M 
 one will buy or sell gold and silver for other than currency " 
 purposes except at the mint rate? As regards the first 
 case, the bimetallists must show that the force of law has! 
 at any time availed to make gold and silver exchange at; 
 any other than their natural value. M. Cernuschi asserts j 
 it, I venture to say, in the face of all history. 
 
 Up to the time of King James I. the English sovereigns] 
 were constantly engaged in regulating by law the relation 
 of value between gold and silver. But between the com- 
 mencement of the reign of King James I. and that oi 
 King Charles II. gold rose in value against silver 32 per] 
 cent. The variations were frequent and excessive. King] 
 James had altogether failed to modify them, and Kin^ 
 Charles left the matter alone, wisely deciding to let gold, 
 which was not then the legal standard of value, take its, 
 rate in the currency from silver at the market price of th( 
 day. In the course of time gold gained an acknowledged! 
 ascendency over silver, because the medium with which 
 international commercial balances were settled, and was 
 felt to be so convenient for domestic use that Lord Liver-« 
 pool in 1816 converted the silver coin of the realm into a 
 token currency, and made gold by law, as it had long been 
 by custom, the standard of value. HI 
 
 The French nation have tried, as the English did up to > 
 the beginning of the eighteenth century (1707), the effect 
 of law, and have found it fail. It is easy to assert that 
 because it was law in France that gold and silver coins 
 should exchange on the basis of 1 oz. of gold to 15 J ozs. 
 of silver, and because that result was actually attained, 
 therefore it was law that fixed the price of the precious 
 metals ; but, if this were the case, how does the bimetallist 
 account for the sudden collapse of the law and its failure 
 to maintain the ratio? He does not perceive that the 
 
 Mr. C. DanielL 
 
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363 
 
 municipal law only exercised any regulating power as long 
 as it was in unison with the natural law of value prevailing 
 between the two metals ; when the former law ran counter 
 to the natural order ruling the exchange, it ceased to 
 operate. 
 
 As long as France and the rest of the Latin Union 
 principally employed silver for their currencies, and the 
 currency valuation of silver in exchange for gold continued 
 to correspond with the natural value, or nearly so, silver 
 exchanged with gold at the legal rate. Silver was in all 
 those years, if anything, the dearer metal. As soon as 
 silver became the cheaper metal, and very much the 
 cheaper metal, it fell in the currencies of the Latin Union, 
 and the bimetallic law could do nothing to arrest its fall. 
 The Latin Union has given up the attempt to maintain by 
 law a ratio of exchange between the two metals. But the 
 vast amount of silver lying idle in Em-ope and the United 
 States of America, by reason of its being excluded from 
 its proper function — its use as money — has led its owners 
 to agitate for an universal convention among nations to use 
 the metal as coin on its former footing. 
 
 Bimetallists, however, trust not so much to the force of 
 law to create an artificial rate of exchange as to the hope 
 that if all nations will refuse to sell or buy gold and silver 
 for currency purposes except at one valuation, all gold and 
 silver bought and sold for any other purpose will exchange 
 at the same rate. 
 
 But let us suppose that America and the Latin Union 
 agree to sell 1 oz. of gold for 15^ ozs. of silver, in ex- 
 changing their coins they will still have a formidable 
 difficulty to overcome. 
 
 It is this : Assuming the ratio of exchange for currency 
 piu'poses to be fixed by all the associated nations at 1 oz. 
 of gold for 15^ ozs. of silver, it is quite clear that unless 
 the currencies of those nations absorb nearly all the silver 
 which is available for coinage, there will be a considerable 
 
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 balance of silver in the world entirely unaffected by the] 
 metallic law, and that balance will be continually increased! 
 by fresh excavations of silver from below the earth. Itj 
 may be argued that, following the example of their 
 Governments, the people of the associated nations will sell 
 no more than 15 J ozs. of silver for 1 oz. of gold. This] 
 argument is good quoad the currency; but the capacity oi 
 the currency to absorb the supply of silver is limited — j 
 very limited in comparison with the quantity of silvei 
 waiting for absorption. All the silver therefore offered for] 
 sale in excess of the quantity required for currency wouldj 
 clearly not sell at the high price of 15 J ozs. for 1 oz. oi 
 gold, but at any price at which it would pay the producer 
 to sell it — 16, 17, or 18 ozs. The result would be that 
 silver would flow into the associated countries and be j 
 exchanged for gold at something between 15 J ozs. andfll 
 1 8 ozs. for 1 oz. of gold, and the gold thus obtained would i 
 be taken away from the associated countries, z.e., from 
 the western continents, and disappear in Asia. ■! 
 
 In Asia there exists a continual and probably insatiable 
 demand for gold, and at the same time a vast silver treasure —. 
 which could be shipped to Europe, coined into the curren-^| 
 cies of the associated nations without violation of the letter 
 or spirit of the law of the bimetallic convention, and be 
 used to buy up the gold coins; these on their arrival in 
 the East would purchase in the silver current coins o^H 
 Asia about 20 per cent, more silver than had been spent in 
 the purchase of the gold coins themselves in Europe, and 
 this operation would be repeated until gold had disappeared ■ 
 from the cun-encies of the associated nations. It must 
 be evident that immediately the trader from Asia began 
 to operate in this way, these nations must either withdraw 
 gold altogether from their currencies, or, by limiting the 
 quantity of silver employed in them, prevent the public 
 from coining silver at its own discretion for the purchase 
 of the gold coins in the same currencies. If either course 
 
 Mr, C, Daniell, 
 
255 
 
 Avere taken, the "principle of bimetallism,*' the "bimetallic 
 "law," and all the rest of it would vanish into air. 
 
 If the members of an International Monetary Union 
 agreed to use gold and silver only on particular terms 
 among themselves, their doing so would not affect the value 
 in exchange of the two metals in countries outside the 
 Union, unless it obtained a monopoly, or a quasi-monopoly, 
 of the precious metals — an achievement which the following 
 consideration shows is practically impossible. 
 
 India is the largest employer of silver, using about 
 one-fifth of all the coined silver estimated to be circulating 
 in the world. She alone absorbs from eight to ten millions 
 sterling per annum in value of silver treasure ; and the 
 fact that no perceptible enhancement in the price of silver 
 results from the demand made by India and other silver- 
 using countries on the world's supply of sur^^lus silver, 
 proves that the stocks of metal are undergoing no sensible 
 diminution, but that, on the other hand, they are being 
 replenished by fresh excavations at a price which, although 
 low, is profitable. What reasonable grounds, then, exist 
 for the expectation that any possible stimulus to the use of 
 silver, as currency, will cause the absorption of so large a 
 portion of the metal already available for coin, as to fix 
 the price of the remainder at the currency ratio of 1 to 
 15 J ? Whatever the quantity may be which can thus be 
 absorbed, its place will be immediately taken by silver dug 
 from the mines, and sold at a cost so low as to be fatal to 
 the maintenance of the arbitrary ratio which the bimetallist 
 convention seeks to establish. All the nations of Europe 
 and America taken together cannot absorb all, or nearly all, 
 the available silver above and below ground, unless gold be 
 expelled from their currencies, when the raison d'etre of 
 their bimetallism would melt away; and until these nations 
 do succeed in absorbing nearly the whole of these stocks of 
 silver, they cannot maintain an artificial ratio of value in 
 the exchange of the precious metals. 
 
256 
 
 That the silver of Asia would be used to buy up the 
 gold of Europe is a danger which the Conference that sat 
 in Paris last year clearly foresaw, is proved by the sug- 
 gestion of the German delegates, that the bimetallist 
 countries should act alone in fixing the ratio of exchange — 
 that other States should secure the States of the Monetary 
 Union from an inundation of their silver ; and that in any 
 case England should give guarantees that the " International 
 " Monetary Union should not by its gold flowing into India 
 " be flooded with Indian silver." 
 
 Asia, then, is the rock on which such a bimetallic law as 
 that which we are discussing will be wrecked ; and it is clear 
 that the natural ratio of value will always defeat any scheme 
 to &x by law or agreement an arbitrary rate of exchange for 
 the two metals. 
 
 People talk very glibly of the American and Continental 
 mints coining silver to any amount, but this will not avail 
 to raise its price unless there is a demand for it when it is 
 coined — in other words it will not be coined in greater 
 quantities than commerce requires ; and what is that 
 quantity ? It will prove to be very small, because it is a 
 well-established law of currency in its relation to commerce 
 that the bulk of the coin in use can only be increased in 
 correspondence with an increase in the value of the goods 
 brought into the market to be exchanged into money. The 
 coin now in circulation in the world is not less than is 
 required — too much of it may be gold, perhaps, and too 
 little of it silver — for general convenience, but the sum of 
 the two metals used as coin is not so insufficient as to 
 attract much more coin into the currencies of the world 
 than is now in use. The owners of silver, therefore, can 
 only gain their object — that is, get rid of their sm-plus silver 
 by ousting gold from circulation to a value corresponding 
 to that of the silver which they introduce into the currency. 
 But how are they to do this ? There is no such thing as 
 forcing silver into a currency already sufficient for business 
 
 Mr. C. Daniell. 
 
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267 
 
 purposes. Some small quantity may be taken In fractional 
 coinage, but no large quantity of silver can get a footing in 
 any existing currency except it expel a corresponding 
 value of gold. There is no possibility of extinguishing the 
 ordinary laws of supply and demand, and when the surplus 
 silver of the world is coined it will be just as much surplus 
 silver as it was before. 
 
 Do the bimetallists really believe that they will be able 
 to appropriate any large quantity of the coined gold of the 
 world, or drive it out of circulation, substituting silver for 
 it, and if not, how do they expect to float their silver 
 without doing so? Assuming, for the sake of argument, 
 tliat such a bimetallic law is thoroughly enforced, the first 
 result would be that India would obtain such large quantities 
 of gold in exchange for her silver that she would cry out 
 for a gold standard and a gold currency from sheer lack of 
 silver. She would be forced to coin her hoards of surplus 
 gold probably exceeding £150,000,000 sterling in value. 
 But this is not one of the objects of the bimetallists. They 
 insist on England promising that India shall not change 
 her standard. What would be India's condition then, 
 depleted of her silver and not allow^ed to coin her gold? 
 The interest of money would rise enormously, and the 
 necessaries of life fall in price in correspondence wdth the 
 diminution of the coin in currency. 
 
 The order of nature and the laws of supply and demand 
 equally forbid the hope that the currency value of the two 
 metals wdll be other than their intrinsic value as long as 
 Asia is found a field for the employment of silver as coin in 
 free commerce, unfettered by any artificial bimetallic law. 
 The nation which imder takes to use both gold and silver in 
 its currency, and at the same time 23laces no limit on the 
 quantity of either kind of coin in circulation, but such as 
 the needs of commerce and the volition of the people provide, 
 can only make each kind of coin exchange for the other 
 without loss to the holders of either, by fixing the rate of 
 
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258 
 
 exchange in strict correspondence with the rafioofintrinsic 
 value which from time to time prevails in the market 
 between the two metals. Every other plan for working a 
 bimetallic currency, v/ithout limitation in the supply of coin, 
 experience and reason show to be impracticable. 
 
 CLAEMONT DANIELL. 
 
 India, April, 1882. 
 
"WHITHEE WOULD THE DEAEEli 
 METAL GO?" 
 
 From The BuUiamsf, June 24, 1882. 
 
 This important and vital question is asked by Mr. Gibbs 
 in the 53rd page of his pamphlet. The Double Standard, 
 Mr. Clarmont Daniell, in a letter published in the Bullionist 
 of the 20th May, has endeavoured to answer it. 
 
 His letter is apparently merely a contribution to the 
 discussion upon the ratio of value between gold and silver, 
 and as such a most excellent answer appeared from the pen 
 of Mr. B. Kisch in the columns of the same paper on 
 the 11th inst. 
 
 But no notice was taken of the bold handling by Mr. 
 Daniell of the crucial question, " Whither will the dearer 
 metal go ? " 
 
 Concurring in Mr. Kisch's answer to the remainder of 
 the letter, we desire to say a few words on the point which 
 to a certain sense Mr. Daniell has made his own. 
 
 He published in 1879 a pamphlet on Gold m the 
 East, 
 
 The remedy proposed therein for the evils existing from 
 loss by exchange was — To coin gold in India : to make the 
 coinage of that country a gold one : to recognise the fact 
 that gold is and must be the " universal measure of value." 
 
 For this proposition there is a great deal to be said, 
 and if the debtor world are ready to face the expense of it 
 
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260 
 
 to them, or if tlie creditor world are ready to enter into 
 some compromise tending to diminish their interest in the 
 operation, it might be a good thing. 
 
 We should in such a case have to supplement the 
 question of Mr. Gibbs by an enquiry, " Whither would the 
 " cheaper metal go ? " 
 
 We mention this fact with regard to Mr. Daniell's past 
 writings in order to account for the bold answer to be found 
 in his letter now under consideration. 
 
 His statement is that there exists in India an unlimited 
 treasure of silver and an insatiable demand for gold, and 
 that no sooner was a bimetallic union declared between the 
 Great Powers of the world, than the Indian people would 
 at once dispose of all their silver at 15^ to 1, or even more, 
 in order to procure that gold. 
 
 In order that there may be no mistake about Mr. 
 Daniell's proposition, we quote the paragraphs to which we 
 allude in full : — 
 
 " All the silver therefore offered for sale in excess of the 
 " quantity required for currency would clearly not sell at the 
 " high price of 15^ ozs. for 1 oz. of gold, but at any price at 
 " which it would pay the producer to sell it — 16, 17, or 18 ozs. 
 " The result would be that silver would flow into the associated 
 " countries and be exchanged for gold at something between 
 " 15 J ozs. and 18 ozs. for 1 oz. of gold, and the gold thus obtained 
 ** would be taken away from the associated countries, i.e., from 
 " the western continents, and disappear in Asia. 
 
 *' In Asia there exists a continual and probably insatiable 
 " demand for gold, and at the same time a vast silver treasure 
 " which could be shipped to Europe, coined into the currencies of 
 " the associated nations without violation of the letter or spirit 
 " of the law of the bimetallic convention, and be used to buy 
 " up the gold coins ; these on their arrival in the East would 
 " purchase in the silver current coins of Asia about 20 per cent. 
 " more silver than had been spent in the purchase of the gold 
 
 Mr. H. R. Grcnfell. 
 
201 
 
 " coins themselves in Europe, and this operation would bo 
 " repeated until gold had disappeared from the currencies of the 
 " associated nations. It must be evident that immediately the 
 " trader from Asia began to operate in this way these nations 
 " must either withdraw gold altogether from their currencies, or, by 
 " limiting the quantity of silver employed in them, prevent the 
 " public from coining silver at its own discretion for the purchase 
 " of the gold coins in the same currencies. If either course were 
 " taken the principle of ' bimetallism,' the * bimetallic law,' and 
 " all the rest of it would vanish into air. 
 
 " If the members of an International Monetary Union agreed 
 " to use gold and silver only on particular terms among them- 
 " selves, their doing so would not affect the value in exchange of 
 " the two metals in countries outside the Union, unless it obtained 
 " a monopoly or a quasi-monopoly of the precious metals — an 
 " achievement which the following consideration shows is 
 " practically impossible : — 
 
 " India is the largest employer of silver, using about one-fifth 
 " of all the coined silver estimated to be circulating in the world. 
 " She alone absorbs from eight to ten millions sterling per annum 
 " in value of silver treasure ; and the fact that no. perceptible 
 *' enhancement in the price of silver results from the demand 
 " made by India and other silver-using countries on the world's 
 " supply of surplus silver, proves that the stocks of metal are 
 *' undergoing no sensible diminution, but that, on the other hand, 
 " they are being replenished by fresh excavations at a price 
 " which, although low, is profitable. What reasonable grounds, 
 " then, exist for the expectation that any possible stimulus to the 
 " use of silver as currency will cause the absorption of so large a 
 *' portion of the metal already available for coin as to fix the price 
 " of the remainder at the currency ratio of 1 to 151 ? Whatever 
 " the quantity may be which can thus be absorbed, its place will 
 " be immediately taken by silver dug from the mines, and sold at 
 " a cost so low as to be fatal to the maintenance of the arbitrary 
 " ratio which the bimetallist convention seeks to establish. All 
 " the nations of Europe and America taken together cannot 
 " absorb all, or nearly all, the available silver above and below 
 
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 262 
 
 " ground, unless gold be expelled from their currencies, when the 
 " raison d'etre of their bimetallism would melt away; and until 
 " these nations do succeed in absorbing nearly the whole of these 
 *' stocks of silver, they cannot maintain an artificial ratio of value 
 " in the exchange of the precious metals." 
 
 The difficulty of understanding Mr. Daniell's proposi- 
 tion is that he does not state clearly what position he 
 attributes to India with regard to the supposed bimetallic 
 league. 
 
 We must therefore do for him what he has not done 
 for us. 
 
 I. We will suppose that the whole British Empire 
 including India should be part of the bimetallic league. 
 
 If such were the case, on what ground does he suppose 
 that a mere insatiable desire for gold, alleged by him to 
 exist, would enable India to use all her silver treasure and 
 all her silver coin to purchase and take away all the gold 
 from her sister bimetallic nations. 
 
 The statement, if it means anything, amounts to an 
 assertion that an Indian having silver coin in his possession 
 and owing rent, and having to pay wages and other debts 
 which the bimetallic law permits to be paid in silver, will at 
 once insist on paying the carriage of that coin to a seaport 
 in order to get gold back, which will only when it arrives 
 pay the debts he owes precisely as the silver would have 
 done. 
 
 But supposing the transactions within the country are, 
 as monometallists assure us, on so small a scale that no 
 gold coin would be small enough to carry them on, how is 
 this insatiable desire for gold to make up to the people for 
 the loss of their fractional currency ? 
 
 Let us now turn to the great merchants and cosmo- 
 politan traders of Bombay, Kurrachee, Calcutta, and 
 Madras. 
 
 Mr. II. n. Grcnfell. 
 
2GS 
 
 Ave we to believe that they, having dealt in silver 
 rupees all their lives and having been accustomed to a 
 silver currency, will at once .with the stroke of the j)en, 
 at the moment when agreements have been made to' re- 
 habilitate silver, declare their preference for gold and insist 
 upon paying a premium for the metal the superiority of 
 which beyond the ratio has just been destroyed; and that 
 having exchanged all the silver which the country wants 
 for fractional currency against gold which cannot be used 
 for it, they will create a paper fractional currency, founded 
 on their stores of gold ? 
 
 But should they do so, the Indian public being accus- 
 tomed to a metallic currency, would most probably refuse 
 to take it since it is notorious that the present issues, even 
 though guaranteed by the statutes of the Bank of Calcutta, 
 Bombay^ and Madras, are not easily circulated. 
 
 The proposition then that India would, notwithstanding 
 her membership of the bimetallic convention, absorb all the 
 gold from the other countries from mere insatiable desire, 
 cannot be taken seriously. 
 
 II. Let us then take Mr. Darnell's next sujrjrestion as 
 found in another paragraph. 
 
 Ofc>' 
 
 " That the silver of Asia would be used to buy up the gold 
 " of Europe is a danger which the Conference that sat in Paris 
 " last year clearly foresaw, is proved by the suggestion of the 
 " German delegates, that the bimctallist countries should act 
 " alone in fixing the ratio of exchange — that other States should 
 " secure the States of the Monetary Union from an inundation of 
 " their silver; and that in any case England should give guaran- 
 " tees that the * International Monetary Union shoidd not by its 
 " ' gold flowing into India be flooded with Indian silver.' " 
 
 By this we presume that he contemplates India being 
 left out of the Bimetallic Union as proposed in last year's 
 Conference, at which, with a view of getting the other 
 
264 
 
 countries to adopt bimetallism, the Indian Government pro- 
 posed a covenant not to alter the silver standard for ten 
 years. If such an arrangement had been brought about, 
 how is it possible to suppose that men in India from mere 
 love of gold, which they could not get coined or with which 
 they could not pay their debts, would part with all their 
 silver which would serve for both purposes? 
 
 Both or either of these propositions, if sifted, amount to 
 this : that Indians will give some sum varying between 
 15 J and 18, in order to procure a metal which in one case 
 has no more value than that shown by the fixed ratio, and 
 in the other has less. 
 
 Such suggestions as these are, however, most valuable 
 contributions to the controversy. They are in fact features 
 in it which have to be considered. 
 
 And in considering them before setting them aside we are 
 bound to enquire wherein the fallacy in them is to be found. 
 
 Mr. Daniell's proposition is evidently founded on the 
 idea that a nation will not absorb more currency than it 
 really has need for, and that when all the metals necessary 
 for coinage have been absorbed by the bimetallic nations 
 there will still remain a large balance, which he thinks 
 will be of silver, for which there is no demand. In this 
 he makes a statement which is in part accurate, but 
 founds on it a most unreasonable conclusion, because he 
 forgets that there exists between the money in circula- 
 tion and the raw precious metal a store of money for 
 future use. 
 
 If the silver in the world is redundant, and if by the 
 bimetallic law all possessors of silver have a right to have 
 it coined at 15 J to 1, instead of the owners of silver sellmg 
 it at 18 to 1, they will send it to the bimetallic mints to be 
 coined, and the silver so coined will be added to the stock 
 of money existing. The existence of such a stock will 
 cause the value of money to fall and that of commodities to 
 rise, precisely in the same way as when a large new 
 
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 discovery of gold takes place or a large issue of paper 
 currency. 
 
 The principal delusion under which Mr. Daniell labours 
 is that Indians will ship silver to Europe solely to obtain 
 gold for it. It is quite true that if he is correct in saying 
 that the desire for the latter is insatiable, they might have 
 even Avith the bimetallic practice to pay more than 15^ to 1 
 for it, because the debtor would have the right to pay in 
 whichever metal he chose. But for any other purpose than 
 to satisfy the insatiable desire, silver would be at the fixed 
 ratio and no other. To buy cotton goods, copper, iron, 
 coals, steam-engines or any other ordinary articles the price 
 of which is written in pounds sterling, silver would be as 
 good as gold, and gold as silver at the statutory price. 
 
 In conclusion, we congratulate Mr. Daniell on an 
 earnest endeavour to answer Mr. Gibbs' question, and 
 on the serious and suggestive manner in which he has 
 handled it. 
 
 H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
"BIMETALLIC ENGLAND." 
 
 From Tlw BuUmiist, June 24, 1882. 
 
 The heading of our article is the title of a remarkable 
 pamphlet by N. Ottomar Haupt, and we propose to give a 
 succinct account of the work, and to supplement it by some 
 remarks of our own. 
 
 M. Haupt is a German resident in Paris, and has been 
 for many years an enthusiastic advocate of bimetallism — 
 how good an advocate is shown by the arguments of the 
 pamphlet before us, and how courageous an advocate by 
 the language in which it is written. It is very seldom that 
 a man, however good a linguist, will venture to write a 
 treatise on a difficult subject in a language not his own, 
 and we must congratulate M. Haupt on the success of his 
 present effort. An occasional failure in idiomatic accuracy 
 causes us the more to appreciate his mastery of the 
 language; for such slips show us that he had no English 
 reviser, and that the credit therefore is all his own. 
 
 The object of the pamphlet is to prove that England 
 could and ought to join a general bimetallic league ; that 
 her doing so would be convenient and advantageous not 
 only to commerce in general, but to English commerce in 
 particular. The author begins by enumerating — in answer 
 to Lord Sherbrooke's arrogant denunciation of the folly of 
 
 * Published by Efl&ngha|n Wilsop, Royal Exchange. 
 
268 
 
 bimetallists, and in confutation of the scornful innuendoes 
 by wliicli he strives to make his readers believe all eminent 
 students of political economy to be of his mind — the goodly 
 array of writers, French, English, and German, all foremost 
 in the ranks of political economy, who have either advocated 
 bimetallism or allowed its practical possibility. 
 
 He adds, as a counter-assertion to Lord Sherbrooke's, 
 that— 
 
 " Those who are not convinced of the fact that bimetallism 
 " can stand on its own legs, and that the action of a double 
 " standard adopted hy all the leading European nations and hy 
 " the United States of America is fully in harmony with the 
 " existing economical laws, and must lead to satisfactory result^j 
 '^ simply wish to shut their eyes on purpose." 
 
 
 M. Haupt then gives a table of the numbers of francs, 
 marks, florins per kilo, fine, and of dollars and shillings pel I 
 ounce fine, which would be coined under a bimetallic 
 league at the several mints of the Latin Union, Berlin, 
 Amsterdam, Vienna, New York, and London, and of the 
 several sums which would be delivered per kilo, or oimce a1 
 the several national banks after deductions for commission 
 interest, and brassage. 
 
 Further he presents a tabular view of what he calls th( 
 mint-pars of France, Germany, Holland, and America 
 with England, and the " gold point," or exact point in the 
 exchange at which gold can be profitably exported into oi 
 imported from those countries, showing that were silver^ 
 accepted by them all as avcII as by England the same 
 figures would apply to silver. |l 
 
 He then contemplates a time when " the English four- 
 *' shilling piece shall have been created — a handsome brand- 
 " new coin, struck on the basis of 1 gold to 15 J silver, thatll 
 " is to say a piece weighing 378*7 grains of the usual British 
 " standard '925 fine, at par with the similar coics of the 
 
 Mr. H, II. Gibbs, 
 
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269 
 
 " Latin Union, of Germany, of the United States, etc., and 
 " convertible without any loss whatever any day into their 
 " monies, based as they are on the same metals at the same 
 *' ratio between gold and silver, and kept in circulation 
 " on the same footing. In other words," he says, " it is 
 " excellent money at home — international coin in the 
 " fullest acceptation of the term." 
 
 He complains of the present condition of silver, circu- 
 lating, where it is standard money, at a nominal value of 
 15 per cent., and where it is fractional currency, at a 
 nominal value of 22 to 24 per cent., above the value to 
 which arbitrary legislation has temporarily degraded it, and 
 foresees the instant cure of this disorder in the repeal of 
 this arbitrary legislation and the return to the ancient law 
 of England and France consolidated by agreement with 
 other countries. 
 
 In the remainder of the pamphlet M. Haupt points out 
 the dangers of allowing the question to sleep, gives a sketch 
 of what has been already done to awaken Germany, France 
 and I^elgium to the urgent necessities of the situation, and 
 referring to the good work of Arendt, de Laveleye and 
 others in this direction, he concludes with — 
 
 " And against this overwhelming majority of the best 
 " authorities of the day, against the countless manifestations of 
 " all classes of society, against this compact front of public 
 " opinion, it is thought that old-fashioned prejudice, ignorance, 
 " custom, and all the other futile pretexts which are employed 
 '* to hinder the development of bimetallism can hold their own 
 " in England ! Away with the idea ! It may be that years will 
 "elapse before the fall necessity of a change in the monetary 
 " policy is realised in the leading circles of the country ; the 
 ** movement itself is there and cannot any more be arrested." 
 
 In presenting this book to our readers and urging their 
 perusal of it, we do not endorse every word of its argument, 
 
270 
 
 m 
 
 altliougli we consider It a remarkable production and a 
 valuable contribution to the literature of the subject. Its 
 author has treated of bimetallism in England as he hopes 
 and as we believe that it would be ; but we must add a few 
 words by way of showing what it would not be ; for such 
 words are necessary as a corrective to the fruits of the 
 vivid imaginations of writers like Lord Sherbrooke and 
 Mr. Crump, which have been lately offered to and (not- 
 withstanding their being so much out of season) swallowed 
 by an unsuspecting public. For the public — too many of 
 them — do swallow, though they make no attempt to digest 
 these fruits of imagination. Of Mr. Crump it must be 
 said that he committed suicide, as far as the bimetallic 
 discussion is concerned, when in an evil hour he was 
 tempted to appear in his OAvn person, instead of as the , 
 occult authority of Printing House Square, which still 
 exercises sway over a few minds, if only by its audacity in 
 saying on Monday the direct opposite of what it said onj 
 Saturday. But of Lord Sherbrooke people ask, was he not^^ 
 Chancellor of the Exchequer, and must it not be supposed 1 
 that a Chancellor of the Exchequer knows all that can be 
 known about money matters? Now in that supposition 
 they are at direct variance with his Lordship, who says 
 frankly that he does not know anything at all about 
 bimetallism — cannot indeed make out what it is. But 
 that is not in the least a reason why he should not write 
 about it. He is not the first and will not be the last man 
 of transcendent ability who has talked, and talked well, of 
 what he does not understand. We have before expressed 
 our enjoyment of his article, which is very pretty reading, 
 written in the choicest English, and lacking nothing but a 
 knowledge of the subject. We should be the first to admit 
 that our monometallic friends have retained a most brilliant 
 advocate for the defence. We picture him in wig and 
 gown, with brief unread, catching at the whispers of his 
 junior behind him, and then pouring forth an impassioned 
 Mr, II. II. Gihbs, 
 
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271 
 
 diatribe, which may satisfy and convince a jury to wliom 
 Standard and Currency, the Gresham Law, and all the other 
 terms employed are so much heathen Greek, hut who think 
 " the learned counsel must be right, he speaks so well ! " 
 and who cannot fail to be convinced by his metaphor of 
 " the waves foaming out their own shame." '' Why, he 
 "has Scripture on his side, hasn't he?" In a previous 
 article we have noticed Lord Sherbrooke's remedy for the 
 lack of gold, namely a fall in prices, or in other words 
 heavy loss to the selling class — and now we come to 
 another instance of the superficial character of his Lordship's 
 thoughts, which presents itself in connection with our 
 present subject. He tells us that the necessary conse- 
 quences of having two independent currencies, of having a 
 bimetallic standard, in short, is that there will be to every 
 transaction two bargains, one as to the price to be paid, and 
 a second as to the metal in which it is to be paid ; and the 
 reason in his mind is, that the varying cost of production 
 will necessarily alter the relative value of the metals from 
 day to day, and that it Avill be more to the advantage of 
 the buyer to pay in one and more to the advantage of the 
 seller to be paid in the other. 
 
 But if any fact in political economy be established, it is 
 this, that the influence of the cost of production on the vast 
 stock of the precious metals produced that they may be 
 stored, is wholly different from that of the cost of produc- 
 tion on those commodities Avhich as money those metals 
 purchase, commodities ephemeral in their nature, perishable, 
 and produced in order that they may be consumed and 
 perish. There can be no temptation to the English seller 
 to stipulate for one metal rather than another, when he can 
 by law not only pay his own debts to his English creditor 
 in one as well as in the other, but his Italian, French, 
 German, and practically every other creditor also. We 
 deny, therefore, the possibility of two bargains, and have 
 yet to meet with any w^ell- considered statement which 
 
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 should show now sucli bargains could find a place in the 
 market of " Bimetallic England." 
 
 We may be excused devoting much space to Mr. Crump's 
 waggon-load of silver which he dreads he may have to 
 drive home to pay his housekeeping bills. If a waggon 
 will be needed for silver in the future, surely a wheelbarrow 
 must be needed for gold now ; yet we do not find that 
 mode of transport required when every transfer of £ 100,000 
 Consols is paid for. Mr. Crump should know, and perhaps 
 really does know a great deal better than this, but he must 
 have forgotten for the moment that he was writing in 
 London, the city of banks and cheques and clearing 
 houses, where every conceivable banking expedient is in 
 daily use, and where the British sovereign is confined 
 either to its praiseworthy use of tipping school-boys, or at 
 most to its office of discharging debts under five pounds. 
 It is no doubt conceivable that this last operation might 
 be performed on very rare occasions with an equivalent 
 number of double florins as the instrument ; but there is 
 no manner of fear that the establishment of a bimetallic 
 standard would be the signal for the sudden flight of every 
 British sovereign from this country, nor for the coming of 
 a time when either, as in Spain, porters shall be seen 
 carrying bags of dollars on their shoulders to pay their 
 patron's tailor's bills, or as in the imagination of Mr. Crump, 
 waggoners shall be seen passing between all parts of 
 London with their jingling loads of silver. 
 
 The specie in the vaults of the Bank of England, 
 whether gold or silver, would serve as it now does to 
 discharge the international indebtedness of England, and 
 the hundred millions of sovereigns said to be in the pockets 
 of Englishmen throughout the country would circulate 
 among them as heretofore, imtil at least the time should 
 arrive when our opponents, zealous for the purity of the 
 standard and detesting above all things the depreciation of 
 the national money, should issue or cause to be issued a 
 
 Mr. H. H. Gihbs. 
 
S73 
 
 flood of one-pound notes, at which time our sovercio-ns will 
 indeed make themselves wings and fly, and we shall be 
 reduced, so far as the issue of notes is fiduciary, to a 
 currency of pure and imalloyed paper. 
 
 We are not bigots in the cause of bimetallism ; we keep 
 our minds free and our ears open, and are most willing 
 to hear arguments which shall show that our present belief 
 is wrong ; but hitherto the advocates of the bimetallic 
 standard have rarely been met with any attempt at serious 
 argument ; the usual weapons of their adversaries have 
 been tirades like Lord Sherbrooke's, rich in vituperation, 
 but barren in argument. This last week a writer in the 
 Saturday 7?^yz>?r, discussing " Question-time" in the House 
 of Commons, speaks of *' the paradox of bimetallism " 
 much as the late Dr. Dionysius Lardner once spoke, in the 
 hearing of the present writer, of the "paradox" of proposing 
 to send steam-vessels across the Atlantic; or as if some 
 Lardner of the present day should maintain that though 
 France and England had sent steam-vessels thither for 
 forty years it would be a paradox to assert that other 
 nations could do it. It cannot be too often repeated that 
 that which the Saturday Review calls a paradox was the 
 law of England till 1816, and the law of France till 1873 ; 
 that it did not "break down" in the latter country, as 
 Mr. Clarmont Daniell supposes, but maintained intact the 
 equality of silver and gold in the proportions fixed by the 
 law till the very moment when an unwise timidity induced 
 the French Government to relax and then to suspend 
 the law. 
 
 There is indeed a paradox in the money doctrines of 
 the present day, and that is this, that while monometallists 
 assert that it is indispensable for safe and just commerce 
 between man and man that we should have one uniform 
 medium of exchange, and while they deem it impossible 
 that either gold or silver alone should be that medium, they 
 are satisfied that England should use gold as her standard 
 
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2?4 
 
 money, while India uses silver, and other nations either 
 gold or silver or gold and silver. 
 
 The folly of tins paradox must before long become 
 evident to all who think on the subject, and the only thing 
 now wanting to the establishment of a imiform though 
 compound medium of exchange throughout the commercial 
 world is the concurrence and co-operation of " Bimetallic 
 England." 
 
 HENRY H. GIBBS. 
 
PAPER OR METALLIC INFLATIO?^. 
 
 From the BuUhmist, June 24, 1882. 
 
 The pleas of the moiiometalllsts are substantially tlie same 
 as the proverbial pleas of the man who was accused of 
 borrowing a kettle entire and of sending it back to its 
 owner with a hole in it. The pleas were that he borrowed 
 it with a hole in it ; that he sent it back entire ; that he 
 never borrowed it at all. 
 
 So with the monometallists. 
 
 They urge that the proper cure for the evil existing is 
 paper currency. 
 
 That bimetallism is an improper cure. 
 
 That there is no evil at all. 
 
 Evidence has been produced as to the borrowing of the 
 kettle or the existence of the evil. 
 
 The evil has been admitted by Lord Grey, Mr. Jevous, 
 and Mr. Giffen. Prices have fallen to an unwonted extent. 
 Their ftill cannot be attributed to ordinary trade oscillations 
 or to the usual alterations of undue caution and extravagant 
 confidence. The fact that all producers, both agricultural 
 and manufacturing, have been working to a loss cannot be 
 disputed. It can also not be seriously disputed that things 
 in time Avill accommodate themselves without any empirical 
 remedies. But it is equally manifest that the present state 
 of things cannot remain, and that unless some remedy 
 be applied the monetary revolution of Germany will be 
 
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276 
 
 repeated by other States, augmenting tlie evil according 
 to tlie monometallist calculation fourfold. 
 
 What then are the remedies proposed ? 
 
 One is to increase the fiduciary issue of paper; the 
 other to resort to the bimetallic agreement. 
 
 Great fault has been found with the Governor of the 
 Bank for venturing to assert that it is probable that Lord 
 Liverpool or Sir Robert Peel, with the new facts before 
 them presented by the German monetary revolution, 
 would, according to the principles on which their writings 
 and speeches were founded, have looked with favour on an 
 international agreement for bimetallism. 
 
 Lord Liverpool said that "Every branch of the circu- 
 " lating medium should be founded on solid, wise, and honest 
 " principles." He also told us what he meant by a currency 
 founded on feeble, unwise, and dishonest principles — 
 namely, an unlimited issue of paper money, lie thought 
 a paper currency to be good so far and no further as the 
 issue was limited to the amount of the "gold and silver" 
 of which it supplied the place. What he considered unwise 
 was to admit the contention of certain "speculative writers" 
 that paper currency " may be made to represent even 
 " immovable property." He says, " It seems to have been 
 " discovered of late years in this country that by a new sort 
 " of alchemy coins of gold and silver may be converted into 
 "' paper, and that the precious metals had better be exported 
 " to serve as capital to foreign countries where no such 
 "' discovery has yet been made." 
 
 llicardo proposed that the benefits of a paper cur- 
 rency and a metallic basis should be secured to its fullest 
 extent by keeping all the circulation in paper, but main- 
 taining a sufficient amount of bullion to meet every note 
 issued. 
 
 The Act of 1844 was a compromise between the extreme 
 views of the alchemists and llicardo, the intention of its 
 author being to entice the English country bank issues to 
 
 Mr. H. l). Grcnfcll. 
 
277 
 
 die out gradually, and the Scotch to live ou as long as the 
 then existing banks had any life in them. 
 
 The proposal of those who admit the evils now resulting 
 from the dislocation in the prices of the precious metals by 
 the German demonetisation, is to supplement the diminished 
 volume of the circulation by a return to imrepresented 
 paper currency. 
 
 Mr. Fowler's proposition in the House of Commons was 
 an abstract resolution in the sense of " forthwith " devising 
 a scheme with that view, and to enlarge the basis of the 
 fiduciary issue in the direction of an emission of one-pound 
 notes otherwise than on the deposit of bullion. 
 
 Many most eminent writers have been in favour of some 
 such alteration, but the most distinguished of them have 
 been or are interested in deposit banking combined with 
 Avhat we call private coining. 
 
 We bullionists believe that coining is an attribute of the 
 State. The monopoly or privilege still left to the Bank of 
 England in its issue department we deem to be a part of its 
 Government business rather than of its private adventure. 
 Our opponents are apt to suggest that all bimetallists are 
 either interested in silver mines or in trade with silver-using 
 countries. It might be said on the other hand that all 
 monometallists are either issuing or would-be issuing 
 bankers. 
 
 Such accusations on either side are beside the question. 
 All men are apt to feel partially towards the laws which 
 engender profits to themselves, and all wise men admit the 
 fact and make just such allowance for it as marksmen do 
 for currents of air. 
 
 The opponents of bimetallism are continually accusing 
 us of wishing to increase the volume of the circulation, and 
 of thereby diminishing the purchasing power of the pound 
 sterling. They have asked us over and over again to define 
 our objects, and If they are not as they have stated them to 
 be, to say Avliat they are. They have also requested us to 
 
278 
 
 adjudicate in the matter of contracts already entered into, 
 and to express ourselves clearly, if possible, as to what 
 would happen if silver were once more raised to what we 
 call its normal value, and what they call its artificial value. 
 
 With regard to contracts a reply has been given over 
 and over again. It is no more a hardship to carry measures 
 tending to alter the terms of a contract in one sense than in 
 another. In 1816 all contracts were altered by the erection 
 of the gold standard to the detriment of the debtor, and in 
 1872 by the demonetisation of Germany the same thing 
 took place. If then the effect of the enactment of the 
 double standard were to have a contrary effect, why should 
 creditors complain ? 
 
 With regard to the diminution of the purchasing power 
 of the pound sterling, or, in other words, the raising of 
 prices, we are not alone in our contention. 
 
 Many of our monometallic friends are in favour of 
 measures which would entail the same consequences. 
 
 What would be the effect of increasing the fiduciary 
 issue of ])aper ? Let us suppose that the Act of 1844 should 
 be repealed or modified, and that the Bank of England or 
 some other authorised body should issue more notes other 
 than against a deposit of the precious metals, would that 
 not be diminishing the purchasing power of the sovereign ? 
 If Lord Liverpool or Sir R. Peel were now alive they 
 would most probably deprecate the course of curing an 
 acknowledged evil by creating a greater one. They 
 would most assuredly object to leaving the safe basis of 
 a metallic currency for the unsafe one of paper founded 
 upon nothing. 
 
 Kicardo considered the test of the safety of a paper 
 currency to be the having every penny of it secured by 
 a deposit of the precious metals. Lord Liverpool and 
 Sir Kobert Peel said that the expansion and contraction 
 of It being the same as that which it would be if wholly 
 metallic, made it safe. 
 
 Mr. II. IL Grcnfell, 
 
279 
 
 But their discii^les propose to fly away altogether from 
 the principles of those statesmen in the matter of paper, in 
 order to defend their doctrines in reference to tlie mono- 
 metallic standard. 
 
 The dangers attending the undue expansion of a paper 
 currency are ten times as great as they were in the early 
 part of the century. The temptation to over-trading, 
 commercial extravagance, and the consequent fluctuations 
 in commercial enterprise, are daily increasing. But the 
 evils of unlimited issue were those with which Lord 
 Liverpool and Sir E,. Peel had to deal. Those arising 
 from a change of standard as we now regard it were 
 unknown to them. Those connected Avith the competition 
 of issuing bankers are now so far from us that we have 
 almost forgotten them, and men are very apt not only to 
 forget the circumstances, but the reason why bank notes 
 issued recklessly form so peculiarly a dangerous form of 
 credit. AVlien a deposit bank stops payment it is a debtor 
 only to those who have voluntarily trusted it ; but when an 
 issuing bank stops payment in a district where the notes are 
 current, hundreds of people may lose their money who liave 
 never knowingly entered into any transactions with the 
 bank at all. 
 
 In 1793, 100 out of 400 issuing banks suspended pay- 
 ment. After Lord Liverpool's time the same thing recurred 
 again and again. In 1810, one-quarter of them stopped. 
 Many in 1812. In 1814-15-16, 360 went down; in 1825, 
 70 succumbed in six weeks. But these would-be new issuers 
 of paper think that the world has grown wiser since those 
 days. 
 
 When Sir E. Peel brought in his Act of 1844 he 
 laid on the table a return of the banks which had stopped 
 payment during the five years previous to that year, and in 
 that return we find that 82 banks had stopped, of which 42 
 paid no dividend at all. Since the passing of that Act we 
 have had three panics in which it had to be suspended for a 
 
280 
 
 sliort time, and eacli of these were banking panics bringing 
 down great joint-stock banking establishments with large 
 and lucrative business. 
 
 Mr. Fowler and his friends doubtless contemplate some 
 other system than the old unlimited and uncontrolled issue ; 
 some plan for an issue founded on deposit of stock. But 
 this would require lengthened inquiry and all that labour 
 and attention which has been in vain invited for the dis- 
 cussion of bimetallism. The Chancellor of the Exchequer, 
 and the financial, official and ex-official authorities, must 
 have some occupation other than the degrading solution 
 of Irish problems if such questions as these are to be 
 brought forward. Till that happy day arrives we must be 
 content to remain in an academic stage. But our work will 
 if possible clear the way of some of the irrelevant matter 
 which obstructs the course of close discussion. 
 
 The difference between diminishing the purchasing 
 power of the sovereign by bimetallism and doing the same 
 thing by an emission of one-pound notes is, that in the one 
 case we damage j^ro tanto the convertibility of the note; 
 in the other we make a currency which is equally known in 
 China, India, Chili, and the United States, and which no 
 panic can depreciate, no commercial crisis render less 
 valid. 
 
 To those monometallists who are strict buUionists in 
 the sense that Sir K. Peel was one our remarks may not 
 apply; but with those who, on the one hand, cry out 
 against watering the currency with a precious metal and, 
 on the other, loudly demand a fresh issue of paper, we can 
 have no common ground, and to them we can give no 
 quarter. 
 
 H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 i 
 
THE RATIO BETWEEN GOLD 
 AND SILVER. 
 
 Oil 30fh September, 1882, (he "Economist " in commenting on 
 the address of Professor Bonamy Price at Nottincjham, 
 made the following observations : — 
 
 Two propositions are put forward which it will be needful 
 for those who advocate the concurrent coinage of gold and 
 silver as legal tender to meet before the subject can be 
 approached at all closely. The first is the difference in 
 present value between gold and silver at the ratio of 15 J 
 to 1, which it has been very generally agreed by bimetallists 
 to adopt. The second is the necessity of bringing not only 
 all civilised countries but the whole world into the inter- 
 national union which it is proposed to establish. Unless 
 this is done, silver will undoubtedly move from those centres 
 where it is worth less, to those w^here it is worth more. 
 Though there is a vast demand for silver in the East, there 
 is also a very large demand for gold there as well ; and if 
 silver would exchange for more gold in Europe than in 
 Asia, we may be quite certain it will find its way to the 
 best market. The essence of money is, as Professor 
 Bonamy Price stated, to give equal for equal; value for 
 value. To start with a ratio of loj to 1 when the real 
 market price is now 18 to 1, and may be something else to- 
 morrow, fails in the first condition which money, as a 
 measure of value, should fulfil. 
 
28- 
 
 The foregoing gaA^e rise to tlie following coiTCspondencc : — 
 
 Sir, — In your paper of last Saturday, you say that 
 there are two propositions which the bimetallists must 
 meet before the subject can be approached at all closely. 
 
 I. The question why lo^ is to be the ratio between 
 gold and silver when 18 to 1 is the existing market price 
 of silver. 
 
 II. The necessity of bringing all nations, and not only 
 the commercial ones, into a bimetallic union. 
 
 i 
 
 To these two points I propose, with your leave, t( 
 address myself. 
 
 I. The first has been cleverly dealt with by Mr. Grenfell 
 in his letter to the Times, of the 27th September ; but I will^il 
 try to supplement his answer with some explanatory words^HI 
 
 I admit that 18 to 1 is the existing market value. We 
 do not propose to adopt it as the ratio, because if we did, 
 then so soon as silver was restored to its ancient function 
 in the monetary world, it would be gold which would be 
 the over- valued metal. 
 
 The essence of the question is not what is the market 
 value of one metal as measured in the other, for that may 
 have been, and has been, affected by temporary circimi- 
 stances, but Avhat is the true comparative value of the two 
 metals existing and likely to exist, supposing both to be in 
 full work at all the occupations for which mankind has 
 adopted them ? 
 
 Now, I fail to see the existence of any natural cause 
 which can have altered the relative value which attached 
 to the two precious metals 12 years ago. Tlie outpourings 
 of silver from the Nevada mines has been as nothing in 
 comparison to the discoveries of gold in Australia and 
 
 Mr. H. II. Gibhs. 
 
2SS 
 
 California; yet it is iu evidence that these last produced 
 no effect worth speaking of on the price of one metal 
 measured in tlie other ; and I conclude, therefore, that 
 the artificial cause once removed by the restoration of 
 the demand for silver as money, the true ratio — neces- 
 sarily an approximate one — will be found to be just what 
 it was, and there cannot, therefore, be any reason whatever 
 for the adoption of 16, or any other compromise. Let me 
 add that I consider perfect exactness of ratio a matter of 
 very little moment. If you adopt 18 to 1 you over-value 
 gold ; but the only practical result, except at the instant 
 of change, is that you contract the circulation of the world. 
 If you adopt 15^ to 1, then, even on the supposition, which 
 I do not admit, that by this ratio you under-value gold, 
 the only practical result is that you re-expand the circula- 
 tion of the world to the point at which it stood in 1873. 
 
 There are two reasons which make me think 15^ the 
 ratio most likely and most proper to be adopted, irrespective 
 of its nearness to the truth. 
 
 1. Great mischief was done in 1873 by an arbitrary 
 act which disturbed the ratio, and however arbitrary the 
 act of restoring it, such a course would but be precisely the 
 undoing of the mischief then done. 
 
 2. 15 J is the ratio which actually exists in the Latin 
 Union and in Gennany, and Avhich would be accepted by the 
 United States. It is, therefore, the ratio which is practically 
 possible, as provoking the least amount of resistance. 
 
 In another article you speak of 18 as the true ratio, 
 and ask what is to hinder the real ratio from being, say, a 
 year hence, 2 1 or 22 to 1 ? 
 
 I reply. What is to cause it so to be? If the Latin 
 Union should demonetise silver, there is every probability 
 of the market value (a very different thing, as I have 
 explained above, from the ratio) being 21 or even 25 to 1. 
 
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 Must you not admit, that the necessary effect of this will 
 be a further and sudden appreciation of gold? that whereas 
 a sovereign was to be had for so much wheat, suddenly, 
 and by the stroke of a pen, the buyer of a sovereign will 
 have been forced to give so much more wheat for it ? The 
 permanence and immovability of your standard, on which 
 you lay such stress, will have gone to the winds. 
 
 I propose with your leave to deal with the second point 
 in another letter. 
 
 Yours faithfully, . 
 
 HENEY H. GIBBS. 
 October 7, 1882. 
 
 Sir, — I return to your article of the 30th September, 
 in which you assert the necessity of bringing all nations, 
 and not only the commercial ones, into a bimetallic union, 
 otherwise "silver will undoubtedly move from those centres 
 " where it is worth less, to those where it is worth more." 
 
 I did not think it would have been necessary to argue 
 this point in the pages of the Economist, or anywhere 
 where merchants do most congregate. You say, " Silver 
 " would exchange for more gold in Europe than in Asia, 
 " and we may be quite certain it Avill find its way to the best 
 " market." I agree with you. But for how long would silver 
 exchange for more gold in Europe than in Asia? For how 
 long would Europe be the best market? Some years ago 
 the answer would have been, — during a course of post ; the 
 answer must now be, — for the time occupied in getting a 
 telegram ! 
 
 Mr. H. H. Gibbs. 
 
285 
 
 The operation which Professor Price imagines (follow- 
 ing, I think, Mr. Clarmont Daniell*) would be possible 
 only on the supposition that one single person had the 
 monopoly of commerce and communication between Europe 
 and the East, and that he had, under a bimetallic system, 
 the power to demand gold for his 15|- oz. of silver thus 
 cheaply bought in India. As it is, he would receive silver 
 for his silver, and have his labour for his pains. 
 
 Even were it otherwise, so long as commerce was free 
 and the telegraph working, what would tie the hands or 
 dull the brains of other merchants while this creature 
 of imagination was making his gain of 2^ oz. silver on 
 each ounce of gold? Is it not obvious that competi- 
 tion will instantly level the prices in the two countries, 
 except so far as the daily variations of exchange affect 
 them? 
 
 In my opinion, the apprehension of *' two prices" of either 
 metal under a bimetallic union of the chief commercial 
 nations is a mere dream, dreamed by Lord Sherbrooke 
 in his study, and by Professor Price, dormant for once 
 in his professor's chair. 
 
 I wait for some merchant or cambist — someone engaged 
 in active business — to explain hoAV such two prices can co- 
 exist. It is not enough that someone, however experienced, 
 should assert that they can. I want an instance. I ask 
 to see the operation. 
 
 Let us suppose Guatemala to be outside the union ; 
 and I beg that it may be demonstrated to me what will 
 induce the Guatemala miner (who knows that every lo^ oz. 
 of his silver is equal, in all civilised countries, to 1 oz. of 
 gold) to give 18 oz. for that quantity of gold. What are 
 the grounds upon which any reasonable man can assume 
 such a course of conduct possible ? A knowledge of the 
 
 * Mr. Daniell's proposal is to retain Gold as the Sole Monetary Standard, 
 but to supplement it witli Silver as unlimited legal tender, at a fixed Ratio 
 to be named from time to time by competent authorities. 
 
286 
 
 price obtainable in Europe must necessarily equalise the 
 price in Guatemala, always saving the fraction involved in 
 exchange, and I can only regard a miner who could be 
 guilty of the ignorance and stupidity ascribed to him 
 as another creation of the imagination. If he really 
 existed, he would not long survive the competition of his 
 neighbours. 
 
 If the miner should raise an unusual abundance of silver, 
 so much the better for him. The Australian who got gold 
 for the picking up received his 77s. lO^d, an ounce for it 
 so soon as he and his buyer knew that it icas gold. Hq 
 was not so obliging as to give it to his neighbour for 405. 
 an ounce. Why should he ? Those Avho think the matter 
 out will avoid confounding, as people are apt to do, the 
 profit of the miner with the market value of the metal. 
 
 The only real residt of a cheap, that is, an abundant, 
 find of either of the precious metals under a bimetallic 
 system would be that the circulation of the world would be 
 pi'o tanto expanded, and that prices of commodities would 
 rise. And in the same way, if the production of either 
 metal fell off, prices would fall in proportion. 
 
 My denial of "two prices" does not, of course, go so 
 far as to deny a possible agio on either metal, though the 
 wider the union the less the probability of an agio. When 
 the debtor has the choice of metals in which to pay, I do 
 not deny the possibility of a creditor who may desire one 
 hundred sovereigns for the convenience of a foreign tour, 
 having in very exceptional circumstances to pay a trifle if 
 he insists on taking gold instead of silver; but sucli an 
 instance, and others similar which may be adduced, are 
 as sliglit bubbles on the stream of commerce, which in no 
 way affect its volume or its course. 
 
 HENRY II. GIBBS. 
 
 October 14, 1882. 
 
287 
 
 To tliesc letters the Economist replied on 21st October: — 
 
 Mr. Gibbs, in writing to us on the subject of the ratio 
 between gold and silver, in his letter published in the 
 Economist of October 7th, says : — " The essence of the 
 " question is, what is the true comparative value of the 
 " two metals existing and likely to exist, supposing botli 
 " to be in full work at all the occupations for which man- 
 " kind has adopted them ? " This is entirely intelligible ; 
 but when Mr. Gibbs goes on to say, as he does, " Let me 
 " add, that I consider exactness of ratio a matter of very 
 " small moment," we lose at once any common ground on 
 which to discuss the matter Avith him. If " the essence of 
 " the question " is to discover " the true comparative 
 " value," we fail to see how "exactness of ratio" can 
 be " a matter of very small moment," as it seems to us 
 that on the ratio adopted, as Mr. Gibbs himself says a few 
 lines further on, the whole point, whether " the circulation 
 " of the world " is '' expanded " or " contracted," would 
 depend. AYe cannot see how a standard the purchasing 
 power of which is subject in this manner to artificial 
 fluctuations can be in any true sense a real arbiter of value. 
 Expansion seems to be the aim desired in the proposed 
 change. Mr. Gibbs says in his second letter : — " The only 
 " real results of a cheap, that is, an abundant, find of 
 " either of the precious metals under a bimetallic system 
 " would be that the circulation of the world would be 
 " pro tanto expanded, and that prices of commodities 
 " would rise. And in the same way, if the production 
 " of either metal fell off, prices would fall in proportion." 
 But the production of the metal which was obtainable with 
 the least labour would be continually stimulated by the 
 artificial enhancement of its price. Hence the continua- 
 tion of this production might be looked upon as certain. 
 The whole history of the com-se of exchange of the two 
 
288 j 
 
 metals shows, that during the last three centuries it has 
 from time to time been needful, whenever the relative 
 value of the two metals has been tested in an open market, 
 to give more silver in proportion for the same weight of 
 gold. There seems no reason to doubt that the same 
 course will continue, with a corresponding effect on the 
 standard based on it. With respect to the value of either n 
 metal, Mr. Gibbs considers that " the price obtainable i^H 
 " Europe must necessarily equalise the price " elsewhere.^*! 
 If he looks back to the early history of the Australian 
 gold discoveries, he will find that it was some time before 
 the mint price in England regulated the market price in 
 Australia. Yet there was free and unlimited coinage of 
 gold all the while in England. Thus Mr. Newmarch 
 states that in 1851 gold bullion was sold in South Australia 
 at 45^. per oz. while the price Avas 60s. in Victoria. We 
 cannot doubt that what has taken place before would take 
 place again. The object of bimetallism is to make the 
 cheaper metal as valuable as the dearer one, which can only 
 be done, according to their argument, by lowering the value 
 of the dearer metal. The nearer this ultimate end is to 
 attainment, it follows that the greater the relative deprecia- 
 tion of the standard of value must be. 
 
 The discussion was concluded by the following letter : — 
 
 SiK, — I have read your remarks in last Saturday's 
 paper on my letters in your issues of the 7th and 14th, and 
 I should be glad to be allowed to correct some misappre- 
 hensions of my meaning into which you have fallen. 
 
 I gave you two reasons why I thought 15 J to 1 the ratio 
 most likely and " most proper to be adopted, irrespective of 
 *' its greater nearness to the truth." 
 
 Mr, II. II. Gibhs. 
 
289 
 
 You attribute to me another reason, which I not only 
 never gave, hut which I wholly repudiate, viz., a desire for 
 expansion of the circulation. 
 
 I must protest that neither in my letter on which you 
 comment, nor in anything I have ever written or said, is 
 there the slightest ground for attributing to me such a 
 desire. I referred to the incontestable fact, that a ratio of 
 loj would cause a return to the volume of circulation as it 
 existed in 1873, while the adoption of 18 would prohibit 
 such return, and perpetuate the existing contraction, but I 
 said nothing to suggest a preference for either ratio on 
 these grounds. Neither expansion nor contraction of the 
 circulation is in itself advantageous to trade ; wdiat is 
 advantageous is steadiness, and an absence of the fluctua- 
 tions which you and I alike deprecate. 
 
 My contention is, that these fluctuations in the relation 
 of money to the commodities measured by it, are more 
 likely to happen among a monometallist than a bimetallist 
 nation, inasmuch as they can be caused by the adoption 
 or rejection, on the part of other countries, of the 
 single metal which the monometallist nation employs as 
 money. 
 
 One question in your issue of September 30th was, 
 "Why choose 15^ rather than 18?" 
 
 I repeat my answer in plainer terms, if possible. Market 
 price shows the present value of the precious metals as 
 measured in each other : but it fails altogether to show the 
 true comparative value of the whole mass of each, as it 
 would be, were the full demand for one of them restored. 
 That 18 to 1 would be widely distant from the true value 
 is proved by the continuous price which prevailed while 
 that full demand existed. My point is, that 15J to 1 is as 
 near as we can get, or, at any rate, is sufficiently near to 
 the true comparative value. 
 
 A fixed ratio has always been, and must necessarily be, 
 approximate and not exact, and therefore it is that I deem 
 
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perfect exactness not only unattainable, but also unim- 
 portant. Let that be as it may, it is impossible that the 
 ratio, when once fixed, can be changed by law, without 
 ])roducing at each change a change also in the quantum of 
 the circulation, and a prejudicial, because sudden, change 
 in the relation of money to commodities. 
 
 To suppose that the fixing of 15 J or any other 
 ratio could produce future fluctuations shows, so I venture 
 to think, misconception of all the conditions of the 
 problem. 
 
 For in proportion as the fixed ratio departs from the 
 market j^i'ice, the circulation is doubtless expanded or 
 contracted at the moment of fixing it ; but once fixed the 
 relation of the aggregate of the two metals used as money 
 to the commodities measured by it (leaving out of the 
 account any circumstances affecting those commodities) 
 depends and must depend on the total excess or defect 
 of production of the precious metals over the consump- 
 tion of them by wear and tear, taking also into account 
 the increased or diminished use of metallic money in t 
 world. 
 
 Your reference to the relative value of the two metals 
 in the last three centuries* — you do well to omit the first 
 70 years of the present one — is surely not germane to the 
 question, for in those centuries no properly organised bi- 
 metallic system was in existence. Had it been in operation, 
 the effect of the changes to which you refer would have 
 been nil, if the falling off* in gold production had balanced 
 the increase of silver ; or there would have been an 
 
 h^yl 
 
 ♦ It is suggested to mo that the Econovi'iKt means the last 300 years, 
 and not the ICth, 17th and 18th centuries : but if bo, his statement, whitli 
 I had thought correct, is inaccurate, for during the fir^t 70 years of tlic 
 present century there have been no variations of any consequence in tlic 
 relative prices of gold and silver, although there have been more sudden 
 and more important variations in the relative production of those metals 
 than in any of the preceding time. 
 
 II. H. G. 
 
 Mr. 11, II. Gihhs. 
 
291 
 
 advance in tlie prices of commodities if both silver and p^old 
 increased in volnme, or one increased -while the other 
 remained stationary. 
 
 You close your remarks by saying "the object of bi- 
 " metallists is to make the cheaper metal equal to the dearer." 
 Pray accept the assurance that this is a total misconception 
 of their object. The result at which you suppose them to 
 aim (which I take to be not the equalising the metals — 
 Avhich no one in his senses could propose — but the restoring 
 them to their old relations of price) would be accomplished 
 approximately, without the aid of a bimetallic agreement, 
 on the remonetisation of silver in Germany and elsewhere, 
 and restored accurately, if France restored her bimetallic 
 standard. The object of bimetalllsts is to secure perfect 
 stability in the relations of the two money-metals, and 
 increased stability in their joint relation to the commodities 
 measured by them. 
 
 A few words as to your remarks on what I wrote as to 
 the Australian Discoveries. 
 
 I have a full and personal recollection of their early 
 history, and they exactly bear out my statement, some 
 important words in which you have overlooked. I repeat 
 that the Australian received standard price for his gold 
 " so soon as he and his buyer knew that it teas gold." 
 
 Mr. Newmarch was, I think, far too accurate a man to 
 have said what you think he said, or at least to have implied 
 what you suggest that he implied. I am sure he can 
 neither have said nor thought that gold bullion was know- 
 ingly sold at 45.9. and 505. per oz. standard. AVhat really 
 happened was this. No one knew for certain what was the 
 quality of the gold found, nor how much of it was gold at 
 all. It was said, and believed, that it contained inferior 
 metal — platinum, to wit. There was no assaying instru- 
 ments within reach of the finders, and no available means 
 of smelting, or even completely separating the metal 
 from the quartz. Every sale was a speculative one ; but 
 
 ffnwTw^ 
 
292 
 
 from the moment that account sales from England showed 
 the metal to be real gold, like any other, all difficulties were 
 swept away, and the prices w^ere levelled, saving the 
 difference of exchange.* 
 
 What possible analogy exists between this transitional 
 state of things and ordinary increase of production ? 
 
 If the miner mines cheaply, so much the better for the 
 miner and his men. If he doubts for a moment, or his 
 buyer cajoles him into believing that his gold is dross, it is 
 the buyer who makes a profit and not he ; but neither the 
 price he gives, nor the profit Avhich either of them makes, 
 has anything whatever to do with the relation of gokl to 
 the commodities it measures. 
 
 You Avill agree, I am sure, that it is above all things 
 desirable that the arguments on both sides of this question 
 should be made clear and intellicrible to those who studv 
 them. On this ground I trust you will find room for this 
 letter. 
 
 T am. Sill, yours truly, 
 
 HENllY IIUCKS GIBBS. 
 
 London. October 24. 
 
 * It is scarcely necessary to say that the difference of exchange consists 
 ])rimarily in the freight, insurance, interest, and other charges of transit, 
 and that the land charges, when the quality was known and robberies 
 frcriuent, would make the value at the diggings — whether to the digger 
 or his buyer — much less than the value at the i)ort. 
 
BIMETALLISM AGAIN. 
 
 Extracts from Professor Bon amy Price's Address at the Social 
 Science Congress at Nottingham, September 25, 1882. 
 
 [As reported iu The Times, September 26, 1882.] 
 
 " The amount of the money given is determined by the 
 " cost of producing the metal, precisely as the price of a 
 " coat or of a loaf of bread is determined by what they cost 
 '•' to produce." 
 
 " The cost of production of gold or silver is the amount 
 " of goods of all kinds which the miner must have to induce 
 " him to get the metal out of the mine." 
 
 " Steadiness of value is the highest virtue which money 
 " can possess. Its importance is supreme." 
 
 " But now there is a question which ought to be put 
 " categorically to every bimetallist, and which he is speci- 
 " fically bound to answer. He seeks to make England a 
 " bimetallic country, to make both metals legal tenders in 
 " her currency, to place silver on the same level with gold. 
 "In organizing this change at the present hour, why does 
 " he not take the two metals, at their true, their actual 
 " market values ? Why does he not make the start with a 
 "ratio of gold to silver of 1 to 18? Why does he not 
 "demand that in the coinage 18 ounces of silver shall be 
 " the value of one ounce of gold?" 
 
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 The following letter appeared in The Times, Wednesday, Sept. 27, 1882. 
 TO THE EDITOK. 
 
 Sir, — I venture to send the following answer to the 
 direct question to be found in your report of Professor 
 Price's speech at the Social Science Congress — " Why 
 " does not the bimetallist take the two metals at their true, 
 " their actual market value at 1 8 to 1 ? " 
 
 To understand this question it is necessary for him to 
 define what he means by " truth," and when " actuality " is 
 to be asserted. The truth of a comparative value, according 
 to ordinary economical writers, depends either on the cost 
 of production of the commodities to be compared, or else 
 on the demand for them. 
 
 If you give an artificial demand in 1872 to one com- 
 modity and deprive the other of the same artificial demand, 
 that which was true and actual value in 1872 becomes un- 
 true and imactual in 1873. This is the contention of the 
 bimetallists. 
 
 The comparative value of kelp and pounds sterling was 
 changed by a stroke of the pen. The comparative value 
 of gold and silver was changed by the demonetization of 
 Germany in like manner. 
 
 If Professor Price's question is stated in the usual 
 terms, it means that the relative value of gold and silver 
 must eternally depend on the cost of production and on no 
 other cause. According to him, artificial value given to 
 either metal by the conferring of the privilege of money 
 has nothing to do with it. We bimetallists assert that it 
 has everything to do with it. 
 
 ^PCulloch in one place states that the reason why 
 gold and silver are at the ratio of 15 J to 1 is, that 
 
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 it costs exactly 15^ times the amount of labour to 
 produce an ounce of gold as it does to produce the 
 same weight of silver. In other parts of his treatise he 
 so qualifies and pares down the assertion as to leave 
 nothing of it. 
 
 Bimetallists assert that during a period of 70 years in 
 which the comparative cost of production of the two 
 metals varied several times the relative value scarcely 
 changed at all ; that this period of 70 years tallies ])recisely 
 with the period during which French bimetallism, or rather 
 free coinage of both metals, existed ; and that this con- 
 stancy in the price of silver told in gold, or vice versa, 
 ceased exactly at the time when the artificial value of silver 
 was taken from it in Germany. They also assert that if 
 this artificial value or privilege was as suddenly taken away 
 from gold and conferred on platinum the same effect would 
 be produced upon gold. They, therefore, deny that the 
 terms " true and actual market value " have any ascertain- 
 able meaning. 
 
 I remain, Sir, your obedient servant, 
 
 H. E. GEEXFELL. 
 
 Bank of England. 
 
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 Extract from the City Article of Tlic Times of Wednesday, 
 September 27, 1882. 
 
 The admirable address of Professor Bonamy Price at 
 the Social Science Congress, Nottingham, yesterday on 
 Economy and Trade touches upon a point which deserves 
 attention. In treating of bimetallism, and once more ex- 
 posing some of the fallacies into Avliich the advocates of that 
 system of currency have fallen, Professor Price himself goes 
 astray and, singularly enough, upon the most vital point, the 
 non-perception of which has probably involved several able 
 men in the espousing of a cause which they never would have ' 
 associated their names with had they clearly perceived the 
 fLillacy to which we refer at the outset. Professor Price 
 says, " The amount of the money given is determined by the 
 " cost of producing the metal, precisely as the price of a 
 " coat or of a loaf of bread is determined by what they cost 
 " to produce." The leading advocates of the bimetallic 
 theory themselves admit, we believe, that the whole gist of 
 the question is involved in that of value in exchange. Their 
 fundamental error from the beginning has consisted in their 
 not having understood the technical meaning of that phrase 
 " value in exchange," and, with all his clearness otherwise, 
 Professor Price has fallen into the same mistake. That he 
 has done so is easily proved. The fallacy lies in the 
 assumption that the value in exchange of the metal is 
 detei-mined alone by the cost of production. Why has 
 silver fallen in exchangeable value with gold from 15 J to 1 
 to, say, 18 to 1 of gold? No one who really understands 
 the point admits that it was the diminished cost of produc- 
 tion that alone caused that depreciation. The main cause 
 of the fall was its diminished utility. This requires no 
 further demonstration than to say that the fall in the price 
 of silver in the market began with the demonetization of 
 
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 the metal by Germany. It is allowed on all hands that the 
 value of a thing is what it will fetch. In other words, it is 
 determined by the demand in relation to the supply. If 
 the utility of a thing diminishes, as it has in the case of 
 silver, the demand obviously becomes less, whether the cost 
 of production increases or diminishes. A thing which 
 people do not want is said to be dear at any price. At a 
 large meeting of bimetallists some months ago, in London, 
 this very point of cost of production was raised with 
 reference to platinum. It was sought then to be proved 
 that the axiom was a fallacy which set forth that the cost 
 of production determined the value of a thing, the cost of 
 production of platinum, as compared with that of gold, 
 being cited in support of the argument. No such axiom 
 exists, or is acknowledged by sound political economists, 
 unaccompanied Avith the condition that utility is an essential 
 element in value. It was said, and rightly, at the meeting 
 referred to, that platinum cost much more to produce than 
 gold, and yet it was relatively cheaper ; the essential 
 element of utility being lost sight of, in the absence of 
 which it was, of course, useless to attempt to account for 
 the apparent anomaly. 
 
 From The Times, Friday, September 29, 1882. 
 
 The subjoined letter replies to the remarks on Professor 
 Bonamy Price's address to the Social Science Congress at 
 Nottingham, in Wednesday's article, and we are glad to be 
 able to state that in referring to the important point to 
 which we drew attention. Professor Price was guilty of 
 nothing worse than a lapsus calami: — 
 
 September 28. 
 
 Sir, — I beg leave to thank you for your kind notice in 
 The Times of Wednesday of my address to the Social 
 Science Congress at Nottingham. But you will allow me. 
 
298 
 
 I trust, to show that I have not fallen into the " mistake " 
 imputed to me of not having imdcrstood the meaning of the 
 phrase "value in exchange," with reference to the cxcliange 
 of commodities for money. I do not, and never have 
 imbibed "the fallacy that the value in exchange of the 
 " metal is determined by the cost of production alone." On 
 the contrary, I have distinctly held that "if silver has fallen 
 "from loj to 1 to, say, 18 to 1, the diminished cost of 
 " production did not alone cause that depreciation." 
 
 Here is my proof. In an article in the Contemporary 
 Revieio of last February, on " How Money does its Work," 
 I said, page 252, — 
 
 " Thus we are brought to the conclusion that, while cost of 
 " production is always ultimately the essence of the value of 
 " money — of metallic money — as of all commodities save those 
 " whoso prices are governed by feeling and fancy, the fluctuations 
 " which fall upon that vahie through the universal law of supply 
 " and demand are more frequent and last longer than those which 
 " befall most commodities." 
 
 Again, page 258, — 
 
 " It cannot be doubted that M. de Laveleye is correct in 
 " attributing the fall in no slight degree to Germany selling her 
 " silver, combined with the prohibitions against its free coinage in 
 " most civilized countries. What is this but the action of supply 
 " and demand ? A large quantity remained in stock; a fall of value 
 " became inevitable, whatever was the cost of production." 
 
 These passages show, I submit, that instead of holding 
 " the fallacy," I entirely agree in the view taken by the 
 City Article of The Times, 
 
 I come now to the letter of the Governor of the Bank 
 of England, Mr. H. R. Grenfell. I pressed all bimetallists 
 to answer distinctly the question, *' Why does not the 
 " bimetallist take the two metals at their true, their actual 
 
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 " market value, at 18 to I ?" He replies by calling on me 
 to define Avhat I mean by true, by actual value. I answer, 
 the value of the two metals in the metal market, without 
 any reference whatever to coinage : what a man who buys 
 them to make ornaments must give for them. To this 
 meaning Mr. Grenfell opposes what he calls an artificial 
 value, as I understand him — the privilege of being legal 
 tender, which increases the value of the metal when coined. 
 Take away the privilege, as Germany did when it demone- 
 tized silver, and the value of silver falls to 18 instead of 
 15^, being now w^orth an ounce of gold. This being so, to 
 make a metal legal tender is to give it an additional, an 
 artificial value. I need say no more. I call that an untrue, 
 a false value. Artificial money is the last thing to be 
 called good money. 
 
 I am, &c., 
 
 BONAMY PRICE. 
 
 From Tlie Times, October 3, 1882. 
 
 The following letter refers to Professor B. Price's com- 
 ments in last Saturday's article on the letter of Mr. H. R. 
 Grenfell, which appeared on the previous Wednesday: — 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 October 2. 
 Sir, — In your Money Article of Saturday Professor 
 Bonamy Price has answered my enquiry as to what he 
 means by "truth" and "actuality" in the relative value of 
 the precious metals, by saying that he means " The value 
 " of the two metals in the metal market, without any 
 " reference whatever to coinage: what a man who buys 
 " them to make ornaments must "ive for them.'' 
 
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 Again I ask him by what criterion he tests the value of 
 gold if stripped of that which we are agreed in saying is an 
 artificial value conferred upon it by the ^^I'ivilege of the 
 Mint. Does he mean to say that the relative value of gold 
 and silver, if gold were demonetized, would be 18 to 1 ? 
 
 And, if so, on what ground does he make the assertion? 
 
 I remain, your obedient servant, 
 
 H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 FiiOM riioiESSOK B. PRICE to Mr. H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 Welton, Brougii, Yorkshire, 
 
 October 0, 1882. 
 My dear Grenfell, — 
 
 I am no bimetallist. I have never held nor admitted 
 that the mere fact that '^ an artificial value is conferred 
 " upon gold by the privilege of the Mint," in the sense — 
 that the fact that gold is made legal tender — gives it 
 increased power of exchange for other commodities. An 
 artificial ratio of value between two metals in the coinage 
 is perfectly possible, and may easily be, and is, involved 
 in the present bimetallist proposal; but the power of pur- 
 chasing commodities lies quite in another region, namely, 
 in the worth of the coined metals as commodities. 
 
 I have no fear : the actual })roposition of bimetallism is 
 irrational. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 B. PRICE. 
 
 P.S. — I do not use the expression labour as the basis of 
 value, but cost of production. That, with the incidents of 
 the universal law of supply and demand, is the essence of 
 the value of true money. 
 
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 FuoM Mr. II. R. GRENFELL to Professor B. PRICE. 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 October 6, 1882. 
 My dear Price, — 
 
 I neither assert in this letter, nor do I deny, tliat 
 the privilege of the Mint gives an artificial value to gold 
 and silver. 
 
 All I say is, that if it gives it to one, it gives it to the 
 other, and that when you try to pin me to the value in 
 exchange of the one, I have a right to pin you to tlie value 
 in exchange of the other as tested by your own standard : 
 viz., what it wouhl fetch for ornaments irrespective of its 
 artificial Mint value. 
 
 What I say is, that your figure of 18 to 1 is no more 
 tlie real proportionate value than 40 to 1, or 3 to 1, or any 
 other imaginary figure. 
 
 If the " Bland Bill" and the legal tender of silver dollars 
 were repealed, and if a gold standard were enacted in India, 
 it might be 40 to 1. 
 
 But the main question you have never answered, nor 
 has any monometallist : How the constancy of the relative 
 value all over the world during the existence of French 
 bimetallism is to be accounted for ? 
 
 The usual slip-slop leading article way is to state that 
 bimetalHsm was tried and failed in Germany and in France, 
 and therefore the former resorted to the gold standard, and 
 the Latin Union to the cessation of minting silver. 
 
 But of this failure not a jot of proof is adduced. 
 
 So much for what I say. Now for what you say. " An 
 " artificial ratio of value between two metals in the coinage 
 '^ is perfectly possible, and may easily be, and is, involved 
 " in the present bimetallist proposal ; but the power of 
 " purchasing commodities lies quite in another region : viz. 
 " in the worth of the coined metals as commodities." 
 
802 
 
 Now, here we are all agreed. This is an accurate 
 definition of that for which we are contendincr. And takino- 
 your definition to be correct, we bimetallists assert that the 
 advantage of a standard at all is to get the greatest possible 
 amount of fixity of value of the standard metals told in 
 commodities. 
 
 We do not assert that they w^ill not vary, or that it is 
 possible to fix it completely. But what we say is, that the 
 fixity of value is greater when the mass of the standard 
 consists of two metals than if it consists of one. 
 
 A caviller may rejoin : Why not three ? To this we 
 reply: Because the mass of coins actually now in use 
 throughout the world consists of the two metals of which 
 we are speaking, and that wdiat may happen if others are 
 added is outside the question at issue. 
 
 When brought alongside we are much nearer each other 
 than you are aware of. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 H. K. GEENFELL. 
 
 From Professor B. PRICE to Mr. H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 Welton, Brougit, 
 
 October 7, 1882. 
 My dear Grenfell, — 
 
 Your letter, received this morning, divides itself 
 into two parts. I will first speak of the second part. 
 
 It gives me great pleasure. You say very truly that 
 we are nearer to each other than was supposed. I have no 
 objection of principle whatever to bring against it. We 
 agree that "the power of purchasing commodities lies in 
 " the worth of the coined metals as commodities." This is 
 
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 the essence of the manner in wliich good money performs 
 its work. It gives me most lively satisfaction to hear you 
 say, " Here we are all agreed." 
 
 Further, we are unanimous that to "get the greatest 
 " possible amount of fixity of value of the standard metals 
 " told in commodities " is '' the great advantage of a 
 " standard." 
 
 Further, you have a perfect right to say that " the 
 " fixity of value is greater when the mass of the standard 
 " consists of two metals than if it consists of one.'' This is 
 a proposition perfectly fair to assert. There is nothing 
 whatever in it against the principle of the best money. 
 Whether it is true, as a fact, is another question ; it may 
 be asserted or disputed ; but in both cases no breach against 
 the right conception of money can be alleged. 
 
 I am inclined to hold that two metals will yield less 
 fixity of value than one only; but I freely admit that I 
 may be mistaken here. It is a very hard question to come 
 to a confident decision on. 
 
 On the first part of your letter I fear that our agree- 
 ment is not so well assured. I agree — " When I try to pin 
 '• you to the value in exchange of the one metal, you 
 "'(H.R. G.) have a right to pin me to the value of the other 
 " by my own standard — namely, what it would fetch for 
 " ornaments." But I cannot add "irrespectively of its 
 " artificial Mint value," for I deny that there is any such 
 artificial Mint value. 
 
 However, you come to the pinch of the matter. You 
 say *' that my figure of 18 to 1 is no more the real pro- 
 " portional value than 40 to 1, or 3 to 1, or any other 
 " imaginary figure." I answer, first, that 18 to 1 is the 
 actual proportion in the bullion market to-day : it is the 
 existing fact, and, so far, is real. That is a quality of 
 immense importance in dealing with it. 
 
 Certainly, with alterations in the currency of many 
 countries, gold might be so wanted as to bring out the 
 
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 ratio of 40 to 1. That is conceivable — probable, I cannot 
 believe it to be. 
 
 I freely concede that the actual values of gold and 
 silver as commodities are difficult to explain at any time. 
 As I said in the Contemporary of February, it is a question 
 dependent on the cost of production of the metal won from 
 the dearest mines, coupled with the incidents arising from 
 the action of the law of demand and supply which falls on 
 all commodities. This is a very difficult matter to trace 
 out. Thus it is not easy to say, why the relative value was 
 constant all over the world during the existence of French 
 bimetallism. But is it not an admitted fact that the French 
 ceased to coin silver because the ratio had become false, 
 and gold was leaving the country ? 
 
 Then again as to Germany: is it or is it not the fact, 
 that she demonetized silver because the supply of cheaper 
 silver from the mines had broken out in America ? 
 
 One remark I would make to Avhich I beg to call your 
 attention. On bimetallism, I admit that if one metal went 
 up or down, the other might do the same and keep up the 
 ratio : or they might do the reverse, one going up as the 
 other goes down, making the ratio more false than ever. 
 For my part, I cannot bring myself to believe that gold 
 and silver would keep company in their costs of production 
 and variations of value. 
 
 Why don't you take into consideration Clarmont 
 Daniell's scheme of occasional adjustments of the ratio in 
 coinage to the ratio of the bullion market, especially 
 as it was done in England for more than 400 years by 
 proclamation from the Crown ? 
 
 Yours, 
 
 B. PRICE. 
 
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 Fkom Mr. II. R. GRENFELL to Professor B. PRICE. 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 October 9, 1882. 
 Mr DEAR Price, — 
 
 We are getting mucli closer to each other than you 
 fancy. 
 
 1. My authority for saying " that the fixity of value is 
 " greater when the mass of the standard consists of two 
 " metals than if it consists of one," is to be found in Jevons' 
 work upon Money, page 137. I have never heard of any 
 one who had read up to that point in the controversy 
 having disputed his decision. 
 
 2. Your expression, or rather your use of the expression, 
 ^^ cost of production," is, I submit, not the correct one. 
 
 Cost of production means the labour required to produce 
 a commodity. 
 
 When the economists laid down the law that cost of 
 production ultimately ruled the value of a commodity, they 
 meant that after all stocks were exhausted, and the various 
 incidents terminated, the new start would be governed by 
 the cost of labour to produce a commodity. 
 
 The " incidents arising from the laws of demand " may 
 govern or influence for a certain time, but, ultimately, the 
 labour to produce governs the value. 
 
 3. The relative value all over the world during French 
 bimetallism is strictly in accordance Avith the laws of supply 
 and demand. If in France, at all times, whatever the cost 
 of production, men could dispose of either gold told in silver 
 or silver told in gold at the ratio of 15 J to 1, there could be 
 no other price anywhere, because whichever, according to the 
 
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306 
 
 laws of the cost of production, was the cheapest could find in 
 France an artificial demand at that rate. This is our ex- 
 planation. Yours is, " that it is not so easy to say." 
 
 4. Referring to what you say about Germany and 
 France, I reply that the proof of th6 change in prices being 
 posterior and not anterior to the demonetization, and therefore 
 that the German change could not have been caused by the 
 fall in prices consequent on the silver discoveries in America, 
 is to be found in Gibbs' pamphlet, page 27, quoted from 
 Seyd. Germany demonetized silver in accordance with a 
 deliberate decision in favour of monometallism, arrived at 
 at the first International Conference. The tribute from 
 France enabled Germany to carry out the measure, which 
 has proved a most costly and ruinous operation to Germany. 
 
 The Latin Union was forced by this monetary revohi- 
 tion to follow suit. The evils arisino^ from these chano;es 
 cannot be disputed by you, because you have already 
 admitted them in your writings. 
 
 5. You ask me why we won't take into consideration 
 Clarmont Daniell's scheme. I have been in long corres- 
 pondence at times witli him, and was under the impression 
 that I had thoroughly shown the impracticability of it. But 
 my simple answer to you is, that I am not considering vacci- 
 nation, or the quadrature of the circle, or the procession of 
 The Holy Ghost. 
 
 His plan for the solution of the question of the 
 ^^ standards" is to create something that is not a standard 
 at all, and it does not therefore necessarily come into a 
 discussion of whether a single or double standard is best. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 H. K. GRENFKLL. 
 B. Price, Esq. 
 
807 
 
 From Professor B. PRICE to Mr. II. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 The Rectory, Kimbolton, St. Neot's, 
 October 13, 1882. 
 
 My dear Grenfell, — 
 
 I am very glad to get your letter. 
 
 1. As to Clarmont Daniell's proposition, you have 
 missed altogether the main point on which I ask on all 
 sides for a discussion. It is this. Daniell proposes that 
 the ratio of the silver coins to the gold ones in a currency, 
 as in England, avowedly monometallic, should be adjusted 
 by an official authority from time to time according to their 
 relative values in the bullion market. This was done by 
 proclamation for more than 400 years long in England up 
 to James I. There was nothing arbitrary in it : the metal 
 market was to govern the ratio. 
 
 I do not say that the plan is feasible, but I am perfectly 
 sure that it is quite sound in principle. The bimetallists 
 never deign to speak of it, — their reason why is quite plain 
 to me. They want to put up the value of silver : Daniell's 
 plan would leave it to the market value. 
 
 My " Jevons " is at Oxford, and I forget what he said ; 
 but I know of no answer to the argument that gold might 
 grow scarcer from the mine, silver much more abundant at 
 the same time, and then the divergence of the value and 
 bigness of the ratio might increase at a gallop. 
 
 2. My expression, "cost of production," comes from 
 Mill. Labour is not the word for it. Labour was a 
 favourite word with Adam Smith, but few economists use 
 it now in this connection. Cost of production means the 
 price which must be paid for an article, or else it will not 
 be produced at all. It is composed of several factors 
 besides labour. 
 
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308 
 
 But, as I fully explained in the Contemporary of 
 February, cost of production falls under the incidents of 
 temporary supply and demand — all commodities do : but as 
 you say — (labour) — cost of production " ultimately governs 
 " the value." 
 
 3. Yes, if at all times, whatever the cost of production, 
 the ratio of 15^ prevailed in France, there could be no 
 other price anywhere. But, will it at all times ? Unbe- 
 lievable ! 
 
 4. You do not give the reason why Germany demone- 
 tized silver. 
 
 But, as you say, Seyd's tables show that the demone- 
 tization was not the consequence of a fall in price through 
 silver discoveries in America. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 B. PRICE. 
 
 
 From Mr. H. R. GRENFELL to Professor B. PRICE. 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 October 14, 1882. 
 My dear Price,— 
 
 1. When proclamations were made during the 
 
 400 years you speak of, they had solely reference to the 
 
 state of things within the realm, and the object was, not 
 
 to be done by your neighbours. The example is of no 
 
 moment whatever, when we are discussing the possibility 
 
 or practicability of coming to a general arrangement with 
 
 our neighbours. Again I repeat, Daniell's proposition is 
 
 one which is to call something a standard which is not a 
 
 standard at all. 
 
 These are my reasons for not considering it as part of 
 
 the question I am arguing. You have no inght to attribute 
 
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 to mc a desire to raise tlie value of silver. It is a dangerous 
 method. Please read the other article I sent you, written 
 by me. Many of the monometallic writers in England are 
 interested in raising the value of "paper." 
 
 2. I think, if you get to close reasoning, you had better 
 at once admit that you made a mistake in your definition of 
 cost of production. Your present definition is correct down 
 to "labour." After that, you seem to fall into your error 
 again. Then you attribute to me the expression cost of 
 production "ultimately governs the value." This was not 
 my doctrine ; it was a statement of what I understood to be 
 the economist's definition of cost of production. 
 
 3. My assertion is, that whatever the cost of production 
 is with open mints at 15^ to 1, that will be the relative price 
 all over the world. My example is the 70 years of the 
 French open mints. 
 
 4. The reason why Germany demonetized has been 
 given so often by me, that I took it for granted you must 
 have read it. But I will give it you again. The first 
 Monetary Conference at Paris, in 1868, came to a decision 
 in favour of gold monometallism. It was summoned, not 
 for the purpose of discussing the standards, but, to discuss 
 an International Coinage. The necessity of discussing the 
 standard arose at once, and it was in accordance with the 
 most recent decision, and with the gold gained by the 
 conquest of France, that Germany demonetized. All this 
 is in my article, "What is a Pound?" Nineteenth Century, 
 1881. 
 
 The very next meeting of a Paris Conference reversed 
 the previous decision, and said it w^ould be an incalculable 
 disaster for silver to be demonetized. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 H. K. GRENFELL. 
 
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 From Professor B. PRICE to Mr. II. K. GRENFELL. 
 
 KiMBOLTON Rectory, 
 
 October 17, 1882. 
 My DEAR Grenfell, — 
 
 The proclamations of the changes in the ratio 
 were facts : the immediate motives for them are utterly 
 unimportant. Nor is "the coming to a general arrange- 
 " ment with our neighbours" of any weight whatever in 
 regard to the action of those proclamations economically. 
 The question is, solely and simply, Are such alterations of 
 the ratio between gold and silver, founded entirely on the 
 ratios existing in the bullion market, sound economical acts 
 — the right thing to be done when two metals are used as 
 legal tenders ? I care not a straAv Avhat other nations may 
 or may not choose to do, in a discussion which deals with 
 principles. Negotiations with nations come later, — after 
 principles have been settled. 
 
 So Daniell's proposition remains vmexamined, though 
 warranted by the proclamation precedent. 
 
 I do not knoAV what you mean when you say that " the 
 " monometallist Avriters are interested in raising the value 
 " of paper." What paper ? 
 
 I am quite at a loss for anything like a ]n'oof that " if 
 " either gold or silver increased ever so much the standard 
 " would not alter, or the relative value, as long as the 
 " bimetallic nations, or one of them, opened their or its 
 " mint to both metals." It would be very funny indeed, if 
 silver increased so much as to be worth only 30rf. an oimce, 
 and its relative value to gold — (hypothctically unchanged) 
 — remained unchanged, because France, say, kej)t her mint 
 open to both metals. That passes my undcrt>tanding. 
 
 I made no mistake about the expression, cost of pro- 
 duction. Labour, as I said, was Adam Smith's word— it is 
 
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 practically given up now. Mill's phrase — cost of j)roduction 
 — lias taken its place. Labour is appropriated to wages 
 generally. The cost of a commodity involves interest, 
 profit of capitalist and employer, freight and many other 
 factors of price, besides labour. You gain nothing by taking 
 your stand on labour. 
 
 AVliat I said was that you agreed — in terms — that " tke 
 '^ poioer of purchasing commodities is the worth of the coined 
 " metals as commodities^ You called this " an accurate 
 " definition," and then argued upon it as such. This is not 
 " a statement of what you understand to be the economist's 
 " definition of cost of production," but your oivn doctrine of 
 what the value of the metals in buying consisted of. 
 
 That being so, you cannot, without contradicting your- 
 self, assert that "whatever the cost of production, with open 
 " mints at 15^ to 1, that will be the price all over the world." 
 The worth here is NOT "that of the coined metals as 
 " commodities," but of an arbitrary ratio between the metals, 
 chosen without any reference to them as commodities. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 B. PRICE. 
 
 Fr03i Mr. II. R. GRENFELL to Pkobessor B. PRICE. 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 October 19, 1882. 
 Dear Price, — 
 
 1. You ask the question, "Are such alterations 
 " of the ratio between gold and silver, founded entirely 
 " on the ratios existing in the bullion market, sound 
 " economical doctrine ? " 
 
 My answer is, as usual, another question. On what are 
 the ratios existing in the bullion market founded ? and you 
 
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 answer, " I cannot say," — at least, you have answered so 
 when I asked you how you accounted for certain phenomena 
 in the past. 
 
 2. You say you don't know what I mean when I say 
 the monometallist writers are interested in raising the 
 value of paper. I answer that many of them are, or were, 
 connected with the paper-issuing banks. They all are, 
 or were, anxious to see the issue of paper extended rather 
 than bimetallism. It is a most worthless argument, I admit; 
 but it is quite good enough for those who are always 
 accusing bimetallists of being interested in silver and its 
 price. 
 
 3. I must ask you to read your "Jevons on Money" 
 if you want proof of the diminution of oscillation in the 
 bimetallic doctrine, and to read Gibbs in last week's 
 Economist as to the impossibility of silver being at 305. per 
 ounce if mints are opened to it at 15^. 
 
 4. In my oj^inion, you originally made a mistake about 
 cost of production. You now try to shift it on me by 
 distinguishing between labour (wages) and general cost of 
 production. Suffice it to say that I concur in your defini- 
 tion of cost of production, meaning the whole cost of bringing 
 a commodity to market. 
 
 5. My own doctrine, as you say, is that the power of 
 purchasing commodities is ultimately the worth of the 
 coined metals as commodities. And whether gold and 
 silver run up and down at different times, according to 
 their separate values as commodities, or whether a system 
 shall have been invented by which the value of each shall 
 tell upon the value of the mass of the two, is of no conse- 
 quence to the theory. Thus, if discoveries of silver are 
 quadrupled, the only effect would be to raise the general 
 price of commodities whether told in gold or silver. The 
 same with gold. 
 
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 The only difference would be that in the former case 
 you would read in the money articles " Silver was shipped 
 yesterday to Egypt, Kiver Plate, New York," — or, in the 
 latter. Gold w^as. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 H. K. GRENFELL. 
 B. Price, Esq. 
 
 FitOM Pkofessor B. PEICE to Mr. H. H. GRENFELL. 
 
 2, NoRHAM Gardens, Oxford, 
 October 22, 1882. 
 
 MV PEAR GrENFELL, — 
 
 I am sorry that you quit the question, Is it 
 practicable, as in the past, to alter the ratio of silver coins 
 to gold according to the state of the bullion market? 
 I have never said that Daniell's scheme was practicable, 
 but I have said that it is founded on a right conception 
 of what money is. If bimetallism goes on, the question, 
 I am sure, will have to be faced. 
 
 I have not made a mistake about cost of production, nor 
 altered a single element of my view respecting it. The 
 question still remains unanswered, Why, in the new system, 
 give a value to silver of 15 J to 1, when it is worth as a 
 metal only 18 to 1. And yet you write now, "My own 
 " doctrine is, that the power of purchasing commodities is 
 " ultimately the worth of the coined metals as commodities." 
 Silver as a commodity is worth only 18 to 1, yet you claim 
 to make it worth 15^ to 1. How to put these two things 
 
 together ! 
 
 Yours, 
 
 B. PEICE. 
 
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 From Mk. H. R. GRENFELL to Professor B. PRICE. 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 October 23, 1882. 
 My dear Price, — 
 
 Very well ! 
 
 You mean the general proposition that the relative 
 price of gold and silver should be from time to time 
 rearranged by proclamation, as being the thing which ought 
 to be examined, not Clarmont Daniell. 
 
 Let us examine it; 
 
 We assert that there could be no other price with an 
 international agreement as to terms of open mint than that 
 laid down by such agreement. 
 
 Why? 
 
 Because, one nation having held its mints open for 
 seventy years the price did not vary, it stands to' reason 
 that if two did it, or four, or eight, no other price of bullion 
 could exist anyAvhere. 
 
 To suppose otherwise is to suppose that some fool is to 
 be found Avilling to sell for 62 that which at an open mint 
 he can get 60 for. 
 
 Let us then suppose such agreement made, and a 
 manifest disinclination to take silver was shown, owing to 
 its extra bulk, and, consequently, that an agio was paid for 
 gold, tlien Ave admit that there is no reason why a recon- 
 sideration of the relative price should not take place by 
 agreement. 
 
 But although Ave admit that, Ave believe the thing Avoiihl 
 be improbable, not to say impossible. 
 
 The question, hoAvever, Avhicli you say is still unansAvercd 
 is, Avhy give a value of 15 J to 1 to silver, Avhen it is Avorth 
 as metal 18 to 1. I tliought everybody acknoAvlcdged I 
 had fully ansAvered that question. 
 
 However, I Avill tiy again. 
 
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 To begin with — the statement of the cj^uestion is 'vvrong in 
 every particular. Silver is not worth 18 to 1 in the bullion 
 market (according to your own criterion) for ornaments. 
 
 Silver is w^orth 18 to 1 for ornaments and coinage. 
 
 If gold were demonetized and reduced to its value for 
 ornaments, neither I nor you know what it would fetch in 
 reference to commodities. Therefore your figure of 18 to 1 
 is merely an accidental ratio consequent on certain changes 
 in the coinage laws of certain nations. 
 
 My next answer is that neither 18 to l,nor 15 to 1, nor 
 20 to l,nor any other ratio, affect in the smallest degree the 
 truth or fallacy of our abstract proposition, which is, that 
 whichever ratio the law lays down will regulate the price 
 of gold told in silver and silver told in gold. 
 
 If you will grant us that proposition, then we are ready 
 to show cause why on the whole we think it would be most 
 politic to go back to the French mint prices. 
 
 It is not, however, in any w-ay of the essence of the 
 question. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 H. K. GEENFELL. 
 
 B. Price, Esq. 
 
 From Professor B. PRICE to Mr. H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 2, NoRiiAM Gardens, Oxford, 
 
 October 24, 1882. 
 My dear Grenfell, — 
 
 I am very glad to get your letter. 
 
 You state the proposition to be examined rightly ; but it 
 
 is the same as Daniell originated for India in ])rinciple. It 
 
 is that principle for w^liich I claimed investigation. In detail 
 
 there is a very serious difference between one country and 
 
 a combination of many nations, 
 
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 I think your objection, derived from this source, is very 
 hard to answer. E-emember — I never ^ anywhere, asserted 
 that the plan was practicable : I asked only (as the principle, 
 in my opinion, was right) that it should be considered. As 
 you say, the positions of the several nations acting together 
 may be radically different, consequently some might refuse 
 a proposal to fix the ratio, and their opposition might be 
 insurmountable. So far, at present, I see no answer to this 
 your objection. But it raises another grave question. Is it 
 desirable to have a bimetallic alliance, if it subjects particular 
 nations to a false ratio, and, consequently, to a false money ? 
 That desirableness is not evident to me. ^| 
 
 I hold that you have not answered the question, — Why ! 
 not adopt the bullion ratio of 18 to 1 ? It is no answer to 
 say, that 18 to 1 is one thing for ornaments, and another 
 for ornaments plus coinage. The naked fact is solely and 
 simply this : In a bullion shop next door to the Bank, will 
 the prices asked of me, a buyer of both silver and gold, be 
 in the proportion of 18 to 1, the dealer asking no question 
 Avhatever as to what use I am going to put the metals to ? 
 That is decisive, so far as the state of the market to-day. 
 
 But you may say : Let the nations adopt bimetallism, 
 and that ratio will at once be altered. I answer : That is to 
 meet a fact Avith a theory — a theory open to very great 
 imcertainties. The very day the new ratio is adopted, a 
 new chcaiier mine of either metal may be discovered, and 
 the 15 J to 1 Avill become false, whatever may have been the 
 fine conjectures that coinage will work the miracle of turning 
 an 18 into a 15. So the question always remains un- 
 answered, Why not adojjt the bullion prices of the day of 
 legislation ? Till it is answered, how can you be surprised if 
 Dr. Bamberger goes on with the notice he has affixed to the 
 room of the Conference — "This is the room where cheap 
 
 " silver is made dear." 
 
 Yours, 
 
 B. PRICE. 
 
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 From Mr. H. R. GRENFELL to Professor B. PRICE. 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 October 2o, 1882. 
 Dear Price, — 
 
 Your question is : Why not adopt the bullion prices 
 of the clay of legislation ? 
 
 I believe I have answered this over and over aofain. 
 
 But, as usual, with another question: What do you 
 mean by " day of legislation ? " 
 
 If you mean that, a bimetallic union being determined on 
 with a double standard, the ratio to remain fixed, then I 
 answ^er there is no reason at all. We have always admitted 
 that 18 to I, or 15, or 20, or 25, could equally be fixed. All 
 we say is that, on balancing the advantages and disad- 
 vantages, it appears to us that to return to 15 J to 1 offers 
 fewer disadvantages. 
 
 But we again remind you that it is not the bullion price 
 according to your criterion. To arrive at that you must 
 demonetize gold and then see what would happen. 
 
 But if you do not mean by legislation an International 
 Union with a fixed ratio, but mean something else, such as 
 C. Daniell means, a gold standard everywhere, with fluctu- 
 ating ratios according as the demand for silver tokens arose, 
 then I answer, as I have answered over and over again, it is 
 not a standard at all as far as silver is concerned, and it 
 would be much better to do what your allies want, — go to 
 PAPER tokens. 
 
 But the main point we were or are arguing about is, 
 whether the demand produced by coining affects the value. 
 How it can be otherwise you do not say, except by calling 
 it "false ratio and false money." It may be false. So, in 
 fact, is all demand for silver false, except the silver pokers 
 
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 and jugs and basons at Dunham Massey. But they are 
 false in the sense that pottery-ware and iron would have 
 done as well. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 From Professor B. PRICE to Mr. II. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 2, NoRiiAM Gardens, Oxford, 
 November 2, 1882. 
 My dear Grenfell, — 
 
 The law of supply and demand, with its effects, 
 was not an alternative to cost of production, but an addition 
 to it. What I meant was that, in such cases as wlieat and 
 the precious metals, the variations for a time Avere often 
 very large, and, consequently, that the cost of production 
 and its repayment by price must be calculated on an 
 average of years. In all cases, cost of production, in the 
 long run, rightly calculated, governs the value of metallic 
 money. That is what I have said, in substance, all aloug. 
 All I can say, in reply to the reasons given on behalf of 
 15 J to 1, as you put them, is that they are theoretical. 
 They are unti-ue to the actual relation at starting in the 
 bullion market. They speculate as to what is likely to 
 happen. Such speculations seem to me very hazardous and 
 very unsafe. I cannot help feeling that the favour shown 
 to 15 J is derived from the fact that it was the ratio adopted 
 by France, &c., &c. ; and equally cannot help suspecting, 
 as many others do, that there is a wish in many minds to 
 give an undue value to silver. At the same time I am 
 
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 quite willing to admit that it is possible that 18 to 1 would 
 not prove the true ratio in the bullion market after 
 bimetallism was set up. 
 
 On Daniell's plan the silver coins would not be "tokens" : 
 they would contain silver of the true A'alue in exchange for 
 gold. That is the very essence of what he seeks, — real 
 equal bullion values of the two sets of coins in their legal 
 relation to one another. Both coins would be standards if 
 their relative values were identical with those in the bullion- 
 dealer's shop. 
 
 Concerning my treatment of the law of supply and 
 demand in my Nottingham address, one of the very ablest 
 men in England, a distinguished economist, and one of the 
 most powerful writers in the press, writes to .me that: — 
 
 ^' As to the objections made to what you said, they seem to 
 " me utterly puerile. That a man should be told that, because 
 " he has said the price of cotton depends in the long run on the 
 " cost of production, he is bluudering to forget that at a particular 
 " moment a good deal may depend on the quantity in the market 
 " and the demand for it, is like telling a man he bhniders who 
 " says that the velocity of a railway depends on the steam-power, 
 *' because he docs not add anything as to the friction or the 
 *' application of the brakes." 
 
 I do not deny, and have never denied, that "a demand 
 "produced by coining may affect value": all I have said 
 is, that the market ratio to-day is 18 to 1, and I simply 
 asked why it was thrust aside and 15^ to 1 chosen instead 
 at starting. The word "false" I used strictly as meaning a 
 ratio not in conformity with the ratio between the prices of 
 the metals in their own and true metal market. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 B. PRICE. 
 
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 From Mr. H. R. GRENFELL to Professor B. PRICE. 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 3rd November, 1882. 
 My dear Price, — 
 
 I have your letter of the 2nd. Your correspondent 
 may be right in his view of The Times' criticisms on your 
 original statements. 
 
 All I can say is, if you were right, then platinum must 
 be dearer than gold. But it is not — even in a bullion- 
 dealer's shop. 
 
 If The Times' criticism was puerile you ought not to] 
 have retracted your original statement ; but, having r 
 tracted it, you should not have re-asserted it. 
 
 You now, in your letter to me, continue to put wheat 
 and precious metals in the same category as regards tlie 
 effects of cost of production, whereas they are generally 
 reckoned as the two extremes. 
 
 With regard to Daniell : It is not sufficient for him to say 
 a thing is a standard ; he must show that his scheme will 
 bring about in the two metals that wliich otlier people call a 
 " standard." If the two metals are to vary in relative price 
 according to cost of production it is not possible that they 
 should both be standards; because "standard" means that 
 a given weight and fineness of one metal or either metal || 
 should have the vis liheratrix. 
 
 This is what Sir Kobert Peel imderstood, when he said 
 that you might have a gold standard, or a silver standard, 
 or a double standard with a fixed ratio between the two 
 metals, without departing from the principle of a metallic 
 standard. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
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 From Professor B. PRICE to Mr. II. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 2, NoRHAM Gardens, Oxford, 
 November 4, 1882. 
 My dear Grenfell, — 
 
 I do not in the least understand your allusion 
 to platinum. 
 
 I do put wheat and metals in the same category; first, 
 as to cost of production ; secondly, as to the effect upon 
 them of supply and demand. The degree of the effect is 
 not the point ; that it exists is the important thing. I 
 fancy that you and I do not quite estimate, to the same 
 degree, the varying yields of the mines for precious 
 metals. 
 
 Of course, Daniell's plan does not give two standards, 
 but only one — gold : the ratio of silver, on the basis of the 
 metal market, being adjusted to gold from time to time. 
 Both metals will be legal tenders : but the assumption will 
 be that gold will be left unaltered, silver being altered in 
 value to it from time to time. 
 
 Mind, I have never said that DanielFs plan was 
 practicable : I have only asserted that it was founded on a 
 right principle and deserved examination. If it could be 
 made to work, it would give two metals to the coined legal 
 tender money of a country — but only one standard, the 
 untouched, unchanged gold. There would be no contra- 
 diction here of what Sir Robert Peel said : "the principle 
 " of a metallic standard would not be departed from." 
 
 Yours, 
 
 B. PRICE. 
 
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 From Mr. H. R. GRENFELL to Professor B. PRICE. 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 November 6, 1882. 
 My dear Price, — 
 
 In my opinion tlie question put to bimetallists in 
 your Nottingham address means that cost of production 
 alone settles the value of the precious metals, while your 
 letter to The Times, of the 28th September, would leave it 
 to be implied that you were ready to admit that which we 
 wished to have admitted, namely, that demand influences 
 it also. 
 
 And now I ask you to follow me into the discussion 
 as to the degree in which demand so affects the value of 
 the precious metals as to neutralize the absolute doctrine 
 of cost of production. 
 
 Our proof is not in our own writings, but in the list of 
 prices during the whole time the French mint was open, 
 ceasing at the exact moment when the mint was practically 
 closed. This argument you seem to be afraid to face. 
 
 You are not in business as a profit-seeker ; but you are 
 in business as a truth-seeker, and are a master of words. 
 
 If Ave are wrong you must have a far greater capacity 
 for showing us where than we can have. 
 
 My allusion to platinum is mentioned in The Times 
 article on your address, therefore I naturally supposed you 
 to be familiar with it. 
 
 If cost of production be the test of the value of the 
 precious metals, and of all commodities, how do you account 
 for the fact that an ounce of platinum costs more to produce 
 than an ounce of gold, but it is cheaper in the market? We 
 account for it by saying that there is an artificial demand 
 for gold, which gives it what you arc pleased to call, when 
 applied to silver, *' a false value"; and that if platinum 
 were monetized and gold demonetized, platinum would ])e 
 
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 far dearer than gold. If we arc wrong in this, tell iis 
 
 WHERE. 
 
 I don't think much of your "eminent friend," and his 
 steam-power and brakes. 
 
 If you have a load to pull, and find your horse cannot do 
 it, you may put a donkey on to help you, and your load 
 may get up the hill. In like manner, if your first-class 
 engine will not pull your train, a second-class engine may 
 be put on ; and the aggregate of steam-power thus procured 
 may take the train smoothly along at a given speed, not, 
 as your friend would suppose, at jerky paces dependent on 
 the separate steam-power of each. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 H. K. GRENFELL. 
 
 From Professor B. PRICE to Mr. H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 2, NoRHAM Gardens, Oxford, 
 November 12, 1882. 
 My dear Grenfell, — 
 
 I did say, and do say, that the value of money is 
 determined by the cost of production of the metal, like 
 the value of a loaf of l)read is determined by what it costs 
 to produce.* 
 
 And I say further, that, at particular times, the state of 
 supply and demand will alter the value of the metal in 
 exchanging, precisely as the character of the seasons may 
 largely affect the price of wheat in a particular year. 
 
 * By saying that, on an average of years, cost of production must be 
 met, and is met, by value in the market, the truth that cost of production 
 governs price is fully retained. 
 
 Y 2 
 
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 By cost of production I meant the cost of production on an 
 average of years. A farmer may, under the influence of 
 the season, get more or get less than the cost of production 
 of his wheat; but, as a rule, and upon the average, he sells 
 his wheat for its cost of production, profit included, or else 
 he will cease producing wheat. 
 
 There is, in this, no affirming and denying at the same 
 moment that cost of production governs price. There is 
 merely a statement that the state of supply and demand 
 at particular moments will make value vary from cost of 
 production. All markets alike are subject to these 
 incidents. 
 
 You then ask me to enter upon a "discussion as to thej 
 " degree in which demand so affects the value of th( 
 " precious metals as to neutralize the absolute doctrine ol 
 ^' cost of production." I am very sorry to have to say that] 
 I do not understand the question. I do not know what] 
 you mean by *'as to neutralize," &c. I dare say I am veryi 
 stupid: if so, pray forgive me. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 B. PRICE. 
 
 From Mr. II. R. GRENFELL to Professor B. PRICE. 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 November 13, 1882. 
 My dear Price, — 
 
 You say you don't understand me when I ask 
 you to discuss the extent to which the demand has neutra- 
 lized the cost of production theory. I will once more try 
 to explain. 
 
 i 
 
825 
 
 The point to which we have brought the discussion is, 
 that cost of production governs ultimately the value, 
 although the demand influences it. Your analogy with 
 wheat is the very worst you could have adduced, — but let 
 that ])ass. 
 
 AVhat we want you to take in is, that the artificial 
 (fictitious, false, if you will) demand created by law, by 
 erecting the precious metals into a standard of value for all 
 other commodities, gives them an exceptional position, and 
 that one of the incidents of that exceptional position is that 
 it has been decreed that the thing written as £ 1 sterling can 
 be paid at all times at the rate of 123*274 grains troy; that 
 the £ 1 sterling is that amount of gold utterly irrespective 
 of cost of production ; that the cost of production has 
 varied and is varying, and yet that amount of gold is the 
 £ 1 sterling. This, I presume, you will not deny. 
 
 From that point we get to silver, and we find that 
 whoever has got 180 grains troy of that metal can pay his 
 rent of one rupee in India. 
 
 The cost of production of silver has changed over and 
 over again. Still, 180 grains troy pays a rupee debt of 
 any kind. 
 
 Then we go a little further, and find that the French 
 mint fixed the ratio betw^een the two, and said that what- 
 ever the cost of production, they were willing to give for 
 99*56 1 grains troy gold twenty francs, capable of paying 
 any debt in France written in that coinage, and for 385*808 
 silver five francs. 
 
 We find that whatever the cost of production, and 
 whatever the " demand for ornaments," the relative 
 value of gold and silver by this artificial arrangement, 
 which we contend is not more artificial in principle in 
 respect to commodities than our gold standard, remained 
 substantially the same during the whole period in which 
 this law demand existed. 
 
 Can you alter these facts ? 
 
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 Are they the truth? 
 
 Are they pertinent to the consideration of the new 
 events which have occurred since 1868? 
 
 Supposing that the cost of production of wheat in- 
 fluences the value and price in five years, and that the 
 cost of production influences the value and price of the 
 precious metals in the long run — say 200 years, — is it 
 worth while making preparations for that which may occur 
 200 years hence ? 
 
 But I have stuck absolutely to M'^Culloch in his dis- 
 tinction between the effect of the cost of production on 
 perishable articles and that on those not perishable. 
 
 Where is my fallacy ? 
 
 Yours, 
 
 H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
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 From Professor B. PRICE to Mr. II. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 2, NoRHAM Gardp:ns, Oxford, 
 November 16, 1882. 
 My dear Grenfell, — 
 
 I have heard from " my eminent friend," — and he 
 is one of the very ablest men I know. lie laughs. " I have 
 *' known," says he, " a coat or a loaf of bread much more 
 " seriously altered from that of the cost of its production 
 " by the stringency of the demand and the smallness of the 
 " supply, than I have ever known the cost of gold altered 
 " from the same cause." 
 
 The case I will state once, for the last time. The 
 cost of production determines the value of a metal ; and 
 that cost — that price — must be procured, as a rule, in the 
 market, or that meti^l will not be produced. But, on a 
 
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 given day, the buyers in the market may be few and poor, 
 by accidental causes ; or, the supply oifered for sale may 
 have fallen oiF, when buyers were eager; in either case, the 
 selling price Avill differ from the cost of production. These 
 are accidents which befall every commodity put up for sale. 
 The two forces — the cost, and the state of the market — are 
 perfectly different things, and they affect every commodity 
 under the sun. 
 
 It was the word " doctrine " which misled and puzzled 
 me. I do not see how demand — special demand, I 
 presume — could neutralize the doctrine : it might and does 
 neutralize, or at least weaken or strengthen, the fact of the 
 cost of production. There was no want of will to imder- 
 stand the question. 
 
 And now, a fresh sea to navigate ! The coining of a 
 metal, and making it legal tender, in no way determines 
 its value. Legal tender merely informs a creditor what 
 lueifjht of metal he will get paid for his goods if he gives 
 credit: that is all. Legal tender does not say a syllable 
 about the worth of the metals. 
 
 But to adopt a metal as the legal tender coin of the 
 country of course creates a demand for it, precisely as 
 using gold to make watches with. 
 
 Of course, the prescribed weight of gold is the £ sterling. 
 I always define a sovereign, or a £, as so many carats of 
 stamped gold; a shilling, as only the 2\)th of a sovereign. 
 
 In India, silver is the standard; and, of course, a rupee 
 is so many grains of silver. Really, you pour out truisms. 
 Of course, whatever the value of the silver, a debt specified 
 in rupees is so many times 180 grains of silver. 
 
 Of course, again, the French fixed the weight of their 
 gold and silver coins, and made them both legal tenders. 
 Who in the world disputes these facts, which any intelligent 
 boy can easily master ; but value — power in exchanging for 
 other commodities — does not enter into these statements 
 one bit. 
 
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 Then you make a very remarkable assertion. You say, 
 that "whilst the law demand existed," this law ratio was 
 not more artificial in principle than our gold standard 
 remained during all that period. In principle, it was far 
 more artificial : for the proper ratio in paying debts 
 depended on two metals instead of one; each having its 
 own way of varying in value. What the monometallists 
 say is, that it is far better to take the chances of variation 
 of one metal than of two. It is possible, no doubt, that the 
 variations of the one may correct those of the other; but 
 they may also make them infinitely worse. The Latin 
 Union could not go on coining silver. 
 
 I prefer the variations of one metal only; and Gibbs 
 tells you and me that England has — for herself — a perfect 
 currency. 
 
 No doubt perishable articles may be terribly influenced 
 by the variations of supply and demand. An excessive 
 supply of fruit or eggs, that won't keep, may make them 
 almost worthless: that is right enough: and that is one 
 very good reason for not making them money, but good 
 hard metals. 
 
 You ask for your fallacy. First, in making an ounce of 
 gold, in coin, worth only 15 J of silver, instead of the true 
 value, 18 ; and, secondly, of exposing England (unless you 
 adopt a check, on Clarmont Daniell's principle, by the 
 process called the Gresham law) to lose all her gold, to be 
 filled with silver only, to the grave injury of every creditor 
 and the profit of every debtor. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 B. PRICE. 
 
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 FiioM Mr. II. R. GRENFELL to Professor B. PRICE. 
 
 Bank op England, 
 
 November 17, 1882. 
 Dear Price, — 
 
 I think less of your "eminent friend" than I did. 
 Or rather he must think less of me if he believes that it is 
 ad rem to say that he has " known a coat or a loaf of bread 
 " much more seriously altered from the cost of production 
 " by the stringency of demand and the smallness of supply 
 " than he has seen the cost of gold altered from the same 
 " cause." 
 
 I have neither time nor inclination to get at the reasons 
 why an old woman at market charges, or does not charge, an 
 extra profit on a handful of apples. Your friend, eminent 
 though he be, had better read J. S. Mill's Political 
 Economy, vol. 1, pp. 537, 538. 
 
 I now come to the serious part of your letter. I knew 
 you would say that though the law fixes the written figure 
 in the creditor's books, it does not " say a syllable about 
 " the worth of the metals." Very good ! I have nothing to 
 say against that dictum. 
 
 What does say anything about the " wortli of tlie 
 "metals"? — our old friends, cost of production and 
 demand. 
 
 I have nothing further to say against all your letter 
 up to the point where you very unwillingly, for the first 
 time, come to the crucial point, and say 
 
 " In principle, it (that is, bimetallism) was far more 
 " artificial ; for the -proper ratio in paying debts depended 
 " on two metals instead of one, each having its own way 
 " of varying in value." 
 
 " Now the monometallists say that it is far better to 
 " take the chance of variation of one metal than of two." 
 
 Do they? 
 
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 The first of monometallists, Jevons, may say that it is 
 better as a matter of policy, but as a matter of securing 
 the greatest possible fixity of value "which, according 
 to Professor Price, is the one thing needful, he says 
 exactly the contrary, for he endorses the calculations of 
 the bimetallist writers as to the compensatory action of 
 the double standard. 
 
 Then you say " the variations of the one may correct 
 " those of the other ; but they may make them infinitely 
 '* worse. The Latin Union could not go on coining silver." 
 
 Why? 
 
 Because of the demonetization in Germany. Because 
 of the sudden and ill-considered change from bimetallism. 
 It is that phenomenon we are examining. If France had 
 gone on coining while Germany and America were taking 
 to gold, of course the whole of their coinage and circulation 
 would have become silver. 
 
 Why? 
 
 Because of the (according to Professor Price) fictitious, 
 false, artificial demand set up for gold in those countries. 
 You then say you prefer the variations of one metal, 
 notwithstanding that your own champion tells you the 
 oscillations are greater, and less likely to produce that 
 which you say is the greatest merit money can have, namely, 
 fixity of value. 
 
 I asked you to tell me where is my fallacy. You answer 
 me, in making 15 J the relative value when it is 18. 
 
 So we must begin all over again. 
 
 Why 18 ? 
 
 Because a false, fictitious, artificial demand has been 
 taken away from silver and given to gold. 
 
 But I accept 18, if you like it. I think \5l would have 
 been better last year. But next year, if the Bland Bill is 
 repealed, and Germany and Holland sell their silver, it 
 will be more likely 30, — to the profit of every creditor, and 
 the grave injury of (>vcry debtor. 
 
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 Every creditor liiis already profited to tlic extent of 
 
 tlie fall from 15 to 18, and you Avisli them to be favoured 
 
 still more. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 From Professor B. PRICE to Mr. II. R. GRENFELL. 
 
 2, NoRHAM Gardens, Oxford, 
 November 2\, 1882. 
 My dear Grenfell, — 
 
 "You accept 18, if I like it." I do. This is an 
 immense fact : a foundation of great strength for, I hope, a 
 good superstructure. 
 
 We are almost agreed : certainly not far off now. 
 
 1. We have Gibbs' proclamation, that the currency of 
 England is perfect, and that, were it not for other nations, 
 he thinks it ought not to be changed. 
 
 2. I have all along held the opinion that it was desirable 
 to bring silver into the currency, if it can be introduced in 
 a manner that shall violate no sound principle of currency, 
 nor injure the one Avhich England possesses. 
 
 3. If silver is to be introduced, I have all along insisted 
 that it should be on the basis of its value in the metal- 
 market. 1 : 18 gives me what I ask for here. 
 
 I believe that we agree so far : there remains only one 
 problem more to solve — namely — In what way shall silver 
 be made legal tender in England by the side of gold, with 
 free coinage of all silver presented ? 
 
 Here I conceive that we have a precedent, which, most 
 probably, can solve the problem. For 400 years, we are 
 told, the ratio in which the silver coins should be related 
 
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 to the gold ones was regulated by proclamation from the 
 Government. Why not examine this precedent closely, and 
 see whether it will not bear repetition ? 
 
 It is Daniell's proposal in substance ; and I have from 
 the first markedly claimed that it should be closely con- 
 sidered by the bimetallists. I have never said that a scheme 
 of practical working has yet been found for it : but I have 
 maintained that Daniell's w^ent on a right principle, and 
 that some sound method of working might probably be 
 discovered. ^J 
 
 If successful, the adaptation from time to time of the "I 
 ratio in the coins to the ratio of the values of the metals or 
 metal would give an excellent bimetallist currency — and 
 I have always declared myself as the advocate of such 
 money. If a right scheme can be devised, the two metals 
 would be related to each other in the national money on 
 their true metallic values ; and, I submit, you and I ought 
 to be agreed. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 B. PKICE. 
 
 From Mr. II. R. GRENFELL to Professor B. PRI 
 
 
 Bank of England, 
 
 November 21, 1882. 
 Dear Price, — 
 
 My acceptation of 18 to 1 is simply because 
 neither 18, nor 15, nor 20, is of the essence of our argument. 
 What we contend is, that any of them could be the fixed 
 ratio. 
 
 If you agree on this proposition, we do not fear that we 
 could show you that 15 J would be better than 18. Gibbs' 
 
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 proclamation is merely admitting as a historical fact that 
 the cnrrency within England is perfect as far as being 
 understood and known by all the lieges. 
 
 But he has never said, nor do we admit, that as an 
 instrument or tool of exchange between nations it is 
 perfect. 
 
 You have, as you say, admitted all along and in several 
 writings the necessity of using silver, but you want to have 
 a varying standard instead of a sound one, notwithstanding 
 your assertion that fixity of value was the highest quality 
 of money. 
 
 1 in 18 may be the price to-day. 1 in 15 J was 12 
 years ago. 1 in 100 may be in a year or two, if the 
 monometallists have their way. 
 
 My final answer to the rest of your letter is to repeat 
 that your proposition, like that of Daniell, is not a standard 
 at all. 
 
 Yours, 
 
 H. R. GRENFELL. 
 
COEEESPONDENCE. 
 
 From Mr. T. II. FARRER to Mr. H. H. GIBBS. 
 
 Abinger Hall, Dorking, 
 March 25, 1883. 
 My dear Gibbs, — 
 
 A friend, who takes interest in bimetallism, puts 
 to me the following problem : 
 
 " It is admitted by bimetalUsts that in a sound currency the 
 " value of the standard coin is determined by supply and demand, 
 " and not by any action of the Government : that this is effected 
 ** by enabhng all persons to get any quantity of the standard 
 " metal turned into coin ; and that the relation of value between 
 " the standard coin and all other commodities is in consequence 
 ** the result of the ordinary action of the market, and is not the 
 " creation of direct law. 
 
 " Assuming this to be the case, how is it that bimetallists 
 "justify the direct determination by law of the relative values 
 " of two particular commodities, viz. gold and silver ? 
 
 "And how is it that they satisfy themselves that direct 
 " Government prescription will operate with certainty and success 
 " in determining this particular relation of value, when they admit 
 " that it would do in respect of no other relation ? " 
 
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 I think I know what the answer would be : but as that 
 answer seems TO me open to a reply, I should be much 
 obliged if you could direct my friend to any writing where 
 the answer to this question is distinctly given in terms 
 which bimetallists would accept. 
 
 Sincerely yours, 
 
 T. H. FAEEEE. 
 H. II. GiBBS, Esq. 
 
 From Mr. II. H, GIBBS to Mr. T. H. FARRER. 
 
 St. Dunstans, Regent's Park 
 March 30, 1883. 
 My dear Farrer, — 
 
 I don't think your first sentence would be 
 " admitted by bimetallists." 
 
 I have written certain theses which show what I think 
 they do admit and assert; you will see that the 1st, to 
 which I believe you will assent, differs from yours. 
 
 1. In a sound currency the value of the standard coin 
 compared with the commodities which it measures is deter- 
 mined by supply and demand. 
 
 2. The Government, i.e. Law, affects supply : it provides 
 for its even flow by keeping an open Mint. 
 
 3. Law can fatally affect demand : for by demonetising 
 the standard coin in any country, it pro tanto diminishes the 
 demand for the metal of which the coin is composed. 
 
 4. If the Law restricts the Mint as to the amount 
 which it may coin, it raises the purchasing power, i.e. the 
 comparative value, of the coin of the country. 
 
 5. If the Law demonetises the metal, it lowers the 
 purchasing power, i.e. the comparative value, of the coin of 
 other countries whose money that metal is. 
 
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 6. It is impossible, under good government, that Law 
 should prescribe the quantity of standard coin which shall 
 or shall not be given for a purchasable commodity. 
 
 7. But that in no way affects the power of Law to 
 determine what the standard coin shall be, nor, if com- 
 posed of two metals, what proportion they shall bear to one 
 another. 
 
 8. It is an abuse of terms to include either gold money 
 or silver money — both being money in the same country — 
 among purchasable commodities. 
 
 9. But, if gold and silver money are to be considered as 
 purchasable commodities, the measure of their value is the 
 mass of other commodities, and in that measure no Law 
 does or can determine their price. 
 
 I will see if I can refer you to any printed writings in 
 which the answer is distinctly given. The distinctness of an 
 answer must depend in some degree upon the question having 
 been distinctly before the writer. So you may, perhaps, 
 find none yet in print that clearly answers your letter. 
 
 I touched on the point in pp. 36-7 of the "Double 
 Standard"; and again, indirectly, in an article which I 
 suppose will appear in the National Review of May next. 
 
 Yours, &c., 
 
 H. H. GIBBS. 
 
 From Lord BRAMWELL to Mr. H. II. GIBBS. 
 
 Four Elms, Eden Bridge, Kent, 
 September 1, 1883. 
 Dear Mr. Gibbs, — 
 
 At length I understand the good of bimetallism : 
 It is to relieve taxpayers and debtors generally. It is not 
 necessary for currency purposes. I agree with all you say, 
 except in the propriety of doing the good you propose ; as 
 
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 to that I liavc a clonbt. Would it be honest ? Of course 
 you think so or you would not propose it. But is it right 
 to alter the currency for the purpose of benefiting debtors 
 at the expense of creditors ? Would it be right to alter it 
 to benefit creditors at the expense of debtors ? I speak as 
 a pensioner. Would it be right to lighten the sovereign, 
 or p«dd to its alloy and diminish its gold, for this purpose ? 
 But what is the diflference between that and what you 
 propose ? And this from a Bank Director and Member of j 
 the Political Economy Club ! Alas ! Political Economy is 
 sent to Jupiter and Saturn, and — but I will not proceed. 
 
 Very truly yours, 
 
 BEAMWELL. 
 
 FiioM Mr. II. H. GIBBS to Loud BBAMWELL. 
 
 Aldenham House, near Elstree, Herts, 
 September 30, 1883. 
 
 Dear Lord Bramwell, — 
 
 On my return from Scotland I found your note of 
 the 1st inst., and now write to thank you for it, and to say 
 a few words in reply. 
 
 If, as you suppose, bimetallists considered that the relief 
 of taxpayers generally, and of debtors at the expense of 
 creditors, was a " good " end, and one for which they should 
 strive, I should think their object was not honest, nnd it 
 would find no suj)port from me. I have no love for 
 " remedial legislation " when its aim is to gratify Paul 
 by giving him some of Peter's goods. 
 
 Neither would it be right to benefit creditors at the 
 expense of debtors, though such a course might be, from 
 our circumstances, more satisfactory to you and me, than 
 the other. 
 
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 Yet both these thhigs liavc been clone, not without bitter 
 remonstrance on the part of those injured, but with the 
 approval of the majority of the nation, and of posterity. 
 When cash-payments were suspended in 1797, all creditors 
 were injured. When cash-payments were resumed in 1816, 
 all debtors were injured in their turn. Those of the creditors 
 and debtors who thought of the matter grumbled on their 
 several occasions at the injuries they suffered ; but none of 
 them, so far as I know, imagined that the Government had 
 adopted those two measures /b?' the purpose of giving a bonus 
 to debtors by the first, or to creditors by the second. They 
 knew well enough that the injury to the one, and the benefit 
 to the other, were only accidents of measures necessary or 
 just in the main, and they submitted to necessity. 
 
 In like manner, creditors have been benefited, not 
 indeed by the action of our own Government, but by the 
 action of Germany and France, and now the benefit which 
 debtors or taxpayers would in their turn receive from the 
 arresting of that appreciation of the measure of value which 
 I suppose to be taking place, and which must now be giving, 
 as it has hitherto given, a benefit to creditors, would be but 
 an unavoidable accident of a measure having no such thing 
 for its main object, but only the giving of greater steadiness 
 to the relations between the measure of value and the 
 commodities measured, and thus diminishing the amount 
 of injury that may be done now to debtors and now to 
 creditors by changes in those relations. 
 
 I don't think there is anything opposed to Political 
 Economy in the adoption of two metals in a certain relative 
 proportion as oiu- measure of value, nor that if it be true that 
 their adoption would produce a great and permanent benefit 
 to commerce, we wait till that science is banished to a 
 distant planet before adopting that good, even though it 
 should be accompanied by a small and temporary evil. 
 
 Yours, &c. 
 
 H. H. GIBBS. 
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 From Lord BRAMWELL to Mr. II. II. GIBBS. 
 
 Four Elms, Eden Bridge, Kent, 
 October 3, 1883. 
 Dear Mr. Gibbs, — 
 
 I write to you thus in answer to your letter 
 the 30th September. 
 
 I say that for currency purposes — on currency con- 
 siderations — in order to improve it, you may change the 
 currency though you raise or lower the exchangeable value 
 of any coin or circulating medium. I say that you ought 
 not in fairness to alter the currency only for the purpose of 
 benefiting creditors at the expense of debtors, or debtors 
 at the expense of creditors. This last is what I under- 
 stand you to propose. I say to you as a Bank Director, 
 proh pudor ! 
 
 Now, what are your arguments ? You admit, I am glad 
 to find, that what I say is wrong, would be wrong. But 
 you say it has been done with the approval of the majority 
 of the nation, and you prophesy that of posterity. As an 
 instance, you cite the suspension of cash payments in 1797. 
 Prodigious I Do you really approve of that on any other 
 ground than that it coidd not be helped, or rather, that it 
 was supposed it could not be helped ? As to resiunption of 
 cash payments; do you not approve of it because it was 
 the right thing to do, and could not be done otherwise ? 
 And is it not true that all holders of depreciated currency 
 put a value on it because in time it would rise to par ; and 
 so of stocks and debts ? As to appreciation of gold owing 
 to the action of France and Germany, I say so much the 
 better for creditors. If they alter and revert to a silver 
 currency, or bimetallism, so much the worse for them ; or 
 would you alter the currency for their benefit? But I say 
 
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 iiuless biinctallism is good for its own sake, it is not justi- 
 fiable to counteract tlie action of other countries — i,e, to 
 lower the exchangeable value of gold. And this, I repeat, 
 is what I understood you to say. Justify your bimetallism 
 on other grounds, and I agree you entirely justify it. I do 
 not think Political Economy is opposed to it. I still have 
 ftiith in that, and envy the inhabitants of Jupiter and 
 Saturn. I think bimetallism possible. Did you ever see a 
 letter in TJie Times on the subject, signed "B."? I abide 
 by that. 
 
 I am glad that we agree in our principles. If one-pound 
 notes would improve the currency, let us have them. So of 
 silver. Pray did you ever think of this : at present no one 
 pays £ 1 unless in gold. Would it be diiferent under 
 bimetallism ? If not, what good would that do ? If yes, 
 are we to carry about fifty or more crown pieces ? 
 
 Ever yours jointly and severally, 
 
 BEAMWELL. 
 
 From Mr. H. H. GIBBS to Lord BRAMWELL. 
 
 Aldenham House, near Elstree, Herts, 
 October 6, 1883. 
 Dear Lord Br am well, — 
 
 Mr. Grenfell has forwarded to me your answering 
 shot at him and me. I plead not guilty to the charge. 
 
 I never said (or, if my words seemed to bear that sense, 
 I never meant) that it could be good to do any act for the 
 purpose of benefiting the debtor at the expense of the 
 creditor. Moreover, I disclaimed, or meant to disclaim, 
 any such opinion, or any such desire, in my last shot 
 at you. 
 
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 Consequently I entirely agree Avith you, as I do with 
 Grenfell, where you denounce it, and I should deserve your 
 '^ proh pudor'''' if I did not. 
 
 Nor did I at all mean to suggest that the Act of 1797 
 was passed with that object, nor the Act of 1816 with the 
 converse object. Those Acts were passed with no such 
 evil intent, but — the first because it was, or was supposed 
 to be, a necessity of the time ; the second, because it was just ; 
 and the fact that they both of them involved more or less 
 injustice to creditor or debtor did not deter the statesmen 
 of that day from doing what they believed, on grounds 
 totally distinct, to be necessary and just. 
 
 I agree with Grenfell that the wisdom, if not the justice, 
 would have been greater if they had returned to the ancient 
 standard of England — gold and silver. 
 
 It was the good (or supposed good) which was done by 
 those Acts, and not the involved injustice, which I suppose 
 posterity approved; but I am far from prophesying, as 
 you think I do, that posterity will approve bimetallism : 
 first, because "I don't know;" and, secondly, because our 
 grandfathers' posterity have done so many foolish things in 
 this generation that I have lost all confidence in posterity. 
 I fear our own may be no Aviscr, and don't, accordingly, 
 attach much value to their judgment. 
 
 I entirely agree with you that " unless bim.etallism is 
 " good for its own sake, it is not justifiable." Also, I envy 
 with )^ou the inhabitants of Saturn. They arc better 
 governed, apparently. Rcdeant Saturnia Regna, 
 
 II. II. GIBBS. 
 
 I read and remember "B.'s" article, and very good I 
 thought it. 
 
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 FnoM Loud BRAMWELL to Mk. II. II. GIBBS. 
 
 Four Elms, Eden Bridge, Kent, 
 October 18, 1883. 
 Dear Mr. Gibbs, — 
 
 I hate a controversy. But that is no reason why 
 I should not write to you, for we do not differ. I wrote 
 my first note because somewhere you said, as I thought, 
 that among the reasons for bimetallism was this, that 
 it would relieve debtors and taxpayers. I think this 
 is not a reason for, but against it; for, unless for good 
 reason, it is wrong to alter the value of debts. I believe 
 you both think so, too ; therefore, there is no difference 
 between us. If, indeed, an alteration in the currency is a 
 good thing in itself, and it cannot be accomplished except 
 by altering the value of debts, &c., then it may be that that 
 must be borne. 
 
 I am not going to discuss bimetallism with you ; that 
 might involve a controversy. It might have been well if 
 "the ancient standard" had been reverted to by Peel. 
 I do not know. I agree that the variations in the value of 
 the £l would have been less, though more frequent. I said 
 so in m}^ letter signed " B.," and was delighted to find that 
 Jevons had said the same thing — which I did not know. 
 Whether it would be an improvement now^ I doubt. You 
 say nobody carries 50 sovereigns. No ; nobody wants as 
 many — cheques are used ; but people do carry 6s, x 50 = 
 £12 : 105. I ask again, would more silver be used? If not, 
 how would it rise in value ? 
 
 Ever yours, 
 
 BRAMWELL. 
 
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 From Lord BEAM WELL to Mr. H. H. GIBBS. 
 
 Four Elms, Eden Bridge, Kent, 
 October 22, 1883. 
 Dear Mr. Gibbs, — 
 
 One word more, — not from a wish to have the last. 
 I believe more silver would be used in England. I think 
 our friends the Germans and Yankees would favour us 
 with some of theirs in exchange for our gold ; and that 
 when we had it, perforce we must use it somehow. But I 
 agree more might be used by the world, though we did not 
 use more. Then, 1st, Why can't they do without us ? 
 2nd, Why should we help them at a loss and inconvenience 
 to ourselves ? I prefer patriotism to cosmopolitanism 
 
 Ever yours truly. 
 
 BEAMWELL 
 
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THE GOLD QUESTION AND THE 
 FALL OF PRICES. 
 
 From the National Review, July, 1883. 
 
 I PROPOSE in the following paper to discuss the present 
 condition of wliat has been called the Silver question, but 
 which at this time and in this country, as directly affecting 
 the English medium of exchange, should rather be called 
 the Gold question. 
 
 I propose also to show that many evils have flowed and 
 are flowing from the demonetization of silver by Germany, 
 and that a remedy for them might be sought in the return 
 to our ancient system of gold and silver money, if the 
 prejudices of the present day did not so strongly militate 
 against it. 
 
 Yet, deeply-seated as that prejudice still is, it is certain 
 that there is a great difference between the present position 
 of the question and the position it occupied in 1878, the 
 date of the second Monetary Conference in Paris ; and 
 greater still, if we compare it with the ground taken by the 
 first Monetary Conference of 1867 and by the Royal 
 Commission of 1868. At that time, the conclusion at 
 which the members arrived was, that the universal adoption 
 of a Gold Standard was desirable. The Conference of 
 1878, on the contrary, having before them the fall in the 
 price of silver, and the consequent inconveniences which 
 had arisen, unanimously urged the necessity of silver taking 
 
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 its full part in the monetary service of the world. The fall 
 of prices which had begun in 1874 and had continued till 
 1881, the date of the third Monetary Conference, led its 
 members to consider more closely the effects both of the 
 fall in the purchasing power of silver, and of the correlative 
 rise in the purchasing power of gold ; and the result was a 
 further advance of opinion, and a wider spread feeling 
 amongst its members, of the wisdom of reverting to the use 
 of a Bimetallic Standard. France and the United States 
 and Holland were anxious to return to it ; and Germany, 
 unwilling to send representatives to the Conference of 
 1878, appeared now to be willing, on conditions, to join a 
 Bimetallic Union ; and England, though as much opj)Osed 
 as before to a return to a Bimetallic Standard of value, 
 was willing to admit that its adoption by other nations 
 Avould be a great advantage to herself, and to discuss the 
 possibility of making some changes, unimportant in them- 
 selves to her own interest, but likely to conduce to such 
 an end. 
 
 The same change, the same progress of opinion, has 
 been everywhere visible in the pages of that part of the 
 Public Press which pays any attention to the subject. 
 
 The bimctallists themselves have learnt much of the 
 working of their system, and of the mischief existing, and 
 likely to increase, from the contraction of our mono- 
 metallic currency. Their opponents, also, have begun to 
 perceive that there are more things in heaven and earth 
 than were dreamt of in their philosophy, and that, as 
 Prince Bismarck said, when ten men try to lie under a 
 blanket which has barely covered five, inconvenience must 
 result. 
 
 The Press in England was till lately wont to treat the 
 matter as a crotchet of a few theorists, having no real 
 bearing on the fortunes of commerce ; as an academic 
 question at best, not worthy of serious consideration by 
 economists and still less by statesmen, in whose eyes it 
 
 Mr. //. //. Gibbs. _^^ 
 
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 •was held to be "outside the range of practical politics." 
 The financial portion of the Press, and those masters in 
 Political Economy, who had learnt their own lesson once 
 for all and long ago, could not at once be induced to 
 believe that with changed premisses new conclusions might 
 be possible, and permitted themselves, therefore, to class 
 our contentions with pretended demonstrations of the 
 flatness of the earth, and of the squaring of the circle. It 
 was very natural. These our instructors (and very useful 
 instructors they are on subjects which they have thoroughly 
 studied) were too much inclined to think that they were 
 born to teach the world, and too little inclined to accept 
 instruction from men or matters. 
 
 Now all this — or nearly all — has been changed. 
 Statesmen, indeed, do not give the subject much con- 
 sideration; but statesmen, in England at least, are very 
 loath to examine any question for themselves. They wait 
 till Public Oj)inion is too strong for them, and then they 
 suddenly find that they, in common with all wise men, 
 have always believed in the urgent necessity of this or that 
 measure of reform. So will it be with the reform of the 
 Standard of Value. Public opinion, though not yet 
 converted, and not yet taking a real interest in the matter, 
 is on the right road towards conversion. The question 
 is now^ no longer contemptuously passed by in the Public 
 Press (except where a simulated contempt is sometimes 
 used as a cloak for ignorance), but is seriously discussed 
 from time to time both in the financial newspapers and 
 among students of Political Economy. The money columns 
 of the newspapers contain serious and elaborate articles 
 for and against the Bimetallic Standard : the opponents of 
 it professing to demonstrate our fallacies, but unfortunately 
 omitting the demonstration, and combating in most cases 
 not the assertions and arguments of the bimetallist, but 
 some other assertions and arguments which they are pleased 
 to father upon him. 
 
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 Sometimes an ex-statesmau, rejoicing in his freedom 
 from parliamentary strife, rushes into our arena ; and using 
 for his weapons much wit and little logic, much prejudice 
 and little knowledge, tells us of the manifold disadvantages 
 which must flow from the two prices in one market, which, 
 as he thinks, will be the inevitable consequence of two 
 metals of differing value being employed to do service as 
 money; but he, in common with all those who use this 
 argument, wholly omits to show us how such two prices 
 will come about, or indeed, under a law of free mintage, 
 could be possible. 
 
 Sometimes a learned and able Professor takes up his 
 parable, and finds himself unwillingly and unwittingly 
 playing the part of Balaam the son of Beor : he comes 
 to curse, but blesses us altogether. He allows the necessity 
 of admitting silver to bear its part in the world as money ; 
 he virtually admits the soundness of our theory, but he, 
 also, trips over the imaginary stumbling-block of the two 
 prices, and proposes to make chronic that temporary 
 disorder in the relation between debtors and creditors 
 which the fixing of a ratio between two money-metals must 
 in some greater or less degree produce, and would make 
 such fixing and such disorder recur again and again at 
 indeterminate periods, at the discretion of some central 
 " authority." 
 
 On the other hand, Mr. Goschen's speech in Parliament 
 on the 19th of February last, not indeed touching on the 
 remedy advocated in this paper, but fully discussing the 
 causes and incidence of the evil which it is intended to cure, 
 shows that one statesman, at least, perceives the importance 
 of the subject, and that one a man better fitted than others, 
 by his early training, to gauge the necessities and diflii- 
 culties of trade. 
 
 The Spectator comments on this speech in its issue of 
 the 24th of February ; and recognizing the magnitude of 
 the evil, and the weight with which it presses on English 
 
 Mr. II. II. Gibbs. ^ 
 
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 industries, and especially on agricidture, asks if the time 
 has not arrived for the appointment of a Royal Commission 
 to inquire into the whole subject. 
 
 Again, a writer in the Statist of the 24th of the 
 same month, commenting upon Mr. Goschen's speech, takes 
 much the same line as Mr. GifFen did in his interesting 
 paper read before the Statistical Society, as long ago as 
 January, 1879, and fully acknowledges the effect on prices 
 which the scarcity of gold must produce. He does not 
 admit the efficacy of bimetallism as a remedy (and on his 
 arguments on this point I shall comment in the course of 
 this paper), but he, and all those who really think upon 
 the matter, are now fully aware what are the true objects 
 of the advocates of the Bimetallic Standard. We need no 
 longer take pains to explain those objects, nor to protest 
 that we do not consider the adoption of that system a 
 panacea for all the ills that Trade is heir to, but only a 
 remedy for one particular ill. 
 
 I may assume that it has been demonstrated — 
 
 1. That the fixing by law of the proportion in which 
 silver and gold, jointly adopted as money, as the measure 
 of value and medium of exchange, shall be received in 
 payment of debts, bears no analogy to a vicious fixing by 
 law of the price of a commodity as measured in money. 
 
 2. That that proportion once fixed, and the mints 
 opened for coinage of legal tender money in that proportion, 
 it is impossible that there can be a market price of silver 
 measured in gold, or of gold measured in silver, which shall 
 differ from the mint price or legal ratio ; and that, therefore, 
 under an international agreement, it is impossible that 
 there could be a dearer and a cheaper metal, of which the 
 former would " leave the country." 
 
 3. That such an international agreement would be easily 
 brought about if England would join it, or would cordially 
 
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 promote its establishment in other nations, and that once 
 established on a broad basis sucli an agreement mnst prac- 
 tically be maintained. 
 
 4. That it is no part of the creed of bimetallists that 
 Commerce is, in the long run, benefited by inflation of the 
 currency; and that what they really desire, and what they 
 believe will result from the adoption of a Bimetallic Standard 
 of value, is a greater steadiness than can be attained under 
 a Monometallic System. 
 
 These matters have been treated pretty fully by many 
 writers of late years — in the United States by Dana Horton, 
 in Belgium by Laveleye, in Germany by Arendt, in France 
 by Wolowski ; and in this country by Mr. Grenfell, in two 
 papers in the Nineteenth Century, by myself, in a pamphlet 
 on the Double Standard in 1881, and by many others. 
 
 Besides this, the establishment of the International 
 Monetary Standard Association in this country, and the 
 foundation of sister Associations in Germany and Belgium, 
 insure that public attention will be continually called to 
 the importance of the subject, and, by their frequent 
 publications and unrefuted arguments, prepare men's minds 
 for a return to the sound and practical system, the benefits 
 of which were extended (until the suspension in 1873 of 
 the French law of free mintage) even to those countries 
 which nominally had but one metal — gold or silver — for 
 their measure of value. 
 
 Silver was not, indeed, while free mintage lasted in 
 France, true money in England, nor was gold true money 
 in Germany; but remittances of silver to England, and 
 of gold to Germany, were practically remittances of cash ; 
 because the fluctuations of value between the two metals, 
 notwithstanding the enormous fluctuations in the relative 
 amounts annually produced of each, were almost imper- 
 ceptible, and were measured only by the natural operation 
 of the Exchanges. 
 
 Mr, H. H, Gihhs. 
 
351 
 
 This condition of things would evidently be restored 
 by the return of France to her former practice ; but it is 
 believed that France will not move in this direction, unless 
 Germany and the United States will join with her and the 
 rest of the Latin Union in adopting a bimetallic standard 
 with a fixed ratio, and free mintage of both metals. 
 
 It remains to be seen what steps England will take to 
 render this action more easy to Germany and the other 
 nations concerned. 
 
 In the year 1881, some steps were taken in this direc- 
 tion, and there would have been, I believe, no difficulty on 
 the part of England in guaranteeing, for a certain time, 
 the maintenance of free mintage of silver in India, in 
 authorising the Bank to carry out the provisions of the 
 Act of 1844 as regards that metal, and perhaps in extending 
 the amount of silver receivable as legal tender; but the 
 negotiations on the subject came, for that time, to no prac- 
 tical end ; a failure very much to be regretted, inasmuch as 
 the part to be performed by England was in no way onerous 
 to her, and, the condition of its performance being the 
 return of the Continental nations and the United States to 
 a Bimetallic Standard, it Avould have been of the greatest 
 advantage to her, both in the interests of commerce, and as 
 solving the monetary question as regards India. 
 
 But, while a better understanding of the subject is 
 increasing, the march of events is unfortunately in the 
 opposite direction. 
 
 Italy has announced that in this present month she will 
 put into circulation the sixteen millions of gold which she 
 has withdrawn from the circulation of the other fyold-usinof 
 states. The result will be, indeed, that that gold will be 
 obtainable by those states, if they choose to pay for it. 
 The gold will leave Italy if she is indebted to her neighbours, 
 Le., whenever the Exchanges are and remain against her ; 
 and she will have to contend with them for the retention of 
 the metal, and the weapon which both parties to the contest 
 
must use will be the rate of discount, a weajDon which 
 wounds both the striker and the stricken. 
 
 In Holland, a Bill is before the Chambers authorising 
 the Government to sell their silver so as to substitute gold 
 in its place ; and if that Bill passes there will be yet another 
 combatant in the same contest. 
 
 In the United States there has been already a very large 
 absorption of gold. The return of the 12th of March shows 
 £34,000,000 in the Treasury, £ 11,000,000 in the Banks, and 
 £70,000,000 in circulation in the country— £ 1 1 5,000,000 
 in all ; and the tendency, even irrespective of the question 
 of repealing the Bland Bill, seems to be to increase the 
 amount. 
 
 The Session of Congress being over, there is no 
 imminent danger of the repeal of the Bill, and of the 
 consequent cessation of the coinage of silver, but though 
 it is difficult to believe that the United States, a silver- 
 producing country, can really desire to further the 
 demonetization of silver, or can be blind to the evils 
 likely to accrue to themselves as well as to Europe by the 
 contraction of the circulation, if they also should adopt 
 a single gold standard, still it would be unwise to leave 
 such a contingency out of the calculation. The causes of 
 the agitation for the repeal of the Bill appear to be two. 
 First, the desire of a large nvunber of politicians to adopt 
 the gold standard, as being, so they think, one source of 
 the prosperity of England ; and, second, the action of 
 others whose aims are directly opposite, and who would 
 deem the permanent adoption of a gold standard a great 
 misfortune for their country, but who hope, " by declaring 
 " war against silver," to make the position intolerable to 
 England, and induce her to retrace her steps. 
 
 Certainly tlic position would be intolerable, as will be 
 readily seen, if we look at the amount of silver in the 
 States which would be thrown on the market by such a 
 policy. 
 
 Mr. If. IT. Gihhs. 
 
 mk 
 
The dollars coined under the provisions of the Bland Bill 
 up to the 1st of February last have been ^'135,405,080, 
 and of these about ;{( 38,000,000 were in circulation in specie 
 in possession of the people, and ;$ 72,745,470 more in circu- 
 lation also, but under the form of certificates, which pass 
 readily from hand to hand, and which, may be considered 
 as State notes or vouchers for dollars and bullion stored in 
 the vaults of the Treasury, of which sum ^4,306,650 were 
 held by the Treasury itself. 
 
 Now if all this silver is demonetized, and thrown on the 
 market together with what existed in the country before 
 the passing of the Bland Bill, and with the monthly produce 
 of the mines, what will be the loss suffered by the Indian 
 Government, and by all who receive fixed sums payable in 
 silver, or who trade with silver-using countries, and what 
 will be the effect on prices of the absorption by the United 
 States of the further quantity of gold which must take its 
 place ! 
 
 I do not think such a catastrophe is likely ; but it is 
 impossible to foretell what the exigencies of party or the 
 needs of private interest, real or imaginary, may bring 
 about under a system of popular government. 
 
 As a further illustration of what I have said as to 
 the improved tone of the Public Press in their treatment 
 of this subject, I cannot but refer to an article on Trade 
 and Finance which appeared in the Daily News of the 
 20th of March. It is a perfectly fair and well-reasoned 
 statement of the case, as regards the influence of the 
 growing scarcity on prices, and the influence of decreasing 
 prices on the commerce of the country. The writer of that 
 article admits the disease, but, like the writer in the Statist, 
 rejects the remedy. He says, " Let the suffering cure 
 " itself; commerce, it is true, is on infirm ground and feels 
 " herself sinking ; let her not fear, she will come to firm 
 " ground at last ! " But how if the quagmire be deep, and 
 she be suffocated before she reach the bottom ? 
 
 2 A 
 
854 
 
 A rcmo Jy is proposed, a reasonable remedy, uliicli shall 
 give all nations composing the world of commerce a uniform 
 standard of value. But we are content to wa-ap ourselves 
 up in our prejudices, and trust to an unseen future to cure 
 our admitted ills, and we reject the remedy that will cure 
 them. So also a remedy was proposed to cure the incon- 
 venience of a diversity of money in the states of which 
 Germany was composed. Every state had its own coinage, 
 to the manifest inconvenience of Germans and those that 
 had commerce with them. No doubt there was the same 
 cry, " Let well alone," even though well was ill ; but a 
 better wdsdom prevailed there, and will some day prevail 
 here. fl| 
 
 That England should make some such concessions as 
 those wdiicli were proj^osed in 1881, is, in my opinion, very 
 much to be desired, both for the sake of her commerce, 
 and for the sake of the general well-being of Englishmen, 
 for whom the prosperity of English commerce is a vital 
 question. 
 
 We have been told, year by year, that "next year" 
 was infallibly to bring with it improvement of trade ; and 
 that England's Commercial Prosperity, which had been so 
 long under a cloud, was to shine forth again with double 
 brightness so soon as commercial activity should revive in 
 the United States, and so soon as India should bo again 
 prosperous. But both these things have happened in 
 greater or less degree, and we have even had an improved 
 harvest year (after long Avaiting), Avliich was to be another 
 signal for the revival of trade ; but trade revives not. 
 Prices are and have been everyAvhere depressed — unless 
 where temporary and local circumstances have at any time 
 counteracted the general tendency. 
 
 What can be the cause of this declension ? There are, 
 no doubt, many causes ; but there is one among them Avhich 
 our instructors in the Press steadily io-norc, preferring 
 rather to attribute the mischief to the spots in the Sun, or 
 
 Mr. 11, II, Gihhs, 
 
8o.: 
 
 oo 
 
 to any other recondite cause, than to one which lies at their 
 very doors. 
 
 Prices of commodities are influenced, first, by the supply 
 of and demand for those commodities, and by their cost of 
 production ; and, secondly, by the quantity of material 
 available for money, which is the measure of them, and 
 which provides, in ordinary parlance, the very conception 
 of price. If that material is rendered aA^ailablc in larger 
 quantities, either (1) by increased production, (2) by dimi- 
 nished population, (3) by a falling off in the demand for 
 use in the Arts, or (4) by the spread of banking expedients, 
 which supply the place of coin and set the metal free, the 
 prices of other commodities are, ccsteris paribus, necessarily 
 greater. Or, on the other hand, if (1) the production 
 at the mines falls off, (2) population increases, (3) more 
 money-metal is consumed in the Arts, or (4) metallic 
 money takes, in any nation, the place of paper, — these 
 causes, or any one of them, provided it be not counter- 
 balanced by the existence of either of the points in the first 
 category, must, so far as it goes, depress the prices of com- 
 modities. 
 
 The shrinking or increase of the worth of the sovereign, 
 the measure of value, is precisely analogous to the shrinking 
 or expansion of the inch, the measure of length. If the 
 standard inch were enlarged, so that the foot of 12 inches 
 were equal to 13 of our present inches, the buyer who 
 bought a foot-length would get more stuff; or, if it were 
 diminished, so that the foot of 12 inches were to be equal 
 to only 1 1 of our present inches, the buyer would get less. 
 The diminution of the quantity of sovereigns (that is to 
 say, of gold, used as money) is an increase in the value of 
 each particular sovereign; the buyer gets more stuff for it. 
 The multiplication of sovereigns is a shrinking of the value 
 of each particular sovereign ; the buyer gets less stuff 
 for it. The difference in actual fact is that the inch cannot 
 increase or diminish without its being everywhere known : 
 
 2 A 2 
 
8.36 
 
 the increase or diminution of the quantity of the money- 
 metals is uncertain and insidious. 
 
 What is true of money-metals as a Avhole is, a fortiori, 
 true of either one of them ; either one being exposed to an 
 additional strain, if it is taken into use as money in lieu of 
 the other. 
 
 I have, then, to inquire — first — whether there is such 
 a general fall in prices as is supposed ; secondly — 
 ■whether, if there is, it can be asserted with any degree 
 of certainty that no other universal and persistent cause 
 can be alleged for the fall ; and, thirdly — whether either 
 of those four things, to which I have above referred, 
 has happened, which could disturb the proportion which 
 existed some years back between gold and the commo- 
 dities which it measures in English commerce, and cause 
 such a fall. 
 
 Now, as to the second question, I must frankly say that 
 there can be no certainty in the answer. Each article in the 
 following table {pj), 358-9) may have had its own especial 
 increase of production or diminution of demand, or both 
 together, which may account for its steady fall in price ; 
 but if we find that the general result over all of them is 
 the same, though differing in degree, we must search for 
 some general cause which has overridden and either 
 counteracted or increased the effects of the especial circum- 
 stances of each case. 
 
 That there has been such a fall the succeeding table, 
 containing the prices of some of the principal articles of 
 trade, clearly shows. It is mainly taken from Mr. Giffen's 
 paper above referred to {p. 349), with additions and con- 
 tinuation to the present date (1883). 
 
 The results are admitted by the writer in the Statist, 
 Prices, he says, have declined, to the present prejudice of 
 trade and agriculture ; and " if gold had not been appre- 
 " ciating in value, prices all round would have been higher 
 " than they are now." 
 
 Mr. TL H. Gihhs, 
 
357 
 
 But, in treating the decline of prices which springs from 
 this source as unimportant, he commits, I think, as grave 
 an error as I should commit were I to attribute the decline 
 to the appreciation of gold alone, and to no other cause ; 
 and I think I shall be able to show from his own words 
 that he has not fully apprehended the cause of the com- 
 plaint, nor the motives and reasoning of the complainers. 
 He Avrites : — 
 
 " The appreciation, after all, cannot have been the main 
 " factor, either in the agricultural distress or in tlie distress of 
 
 *' industry generally What causes distress 
 
 " and suffering in business, moreover, is not a gradual fall in 
 ^' prices extending over many years, such as would be due to 
 " an appreciation of the standard, but a quick and violent fall, 
 *^ which comes heavily upon the holders of large stocks, or upon 
 " those who are carrying on considerable transactions with 
 " borrowed money. To such people, the ups and downs of prices 
 " in business from other causes are infinitely more important 
 " than the insensible changes which are due to an appreciation 
 " in the standard. The cases where the latter most cause 
 *' suffering are those of businesses which have large fixed 
 " payments, and large payments in wages, that are difficult to 
 "adjust to the new circumstances; but gradually, we may be 
 " siire, the adjustment, even in those cases, will be made. We 
 " are inclined to doubt, then, whether the appreciation of gold 
 " which has been going on during the last ten years will have 
 " more than temporary effects. When prices and wages and 
 "many of the fixed payments have got adjusted to the new 
 " conditions, business will go on as before." 
 
 Xo one can deny what he has here advanced, viz.: — 
 that sudden and heavy falls of price cause distress, and 
 greater distress than any which would result from the 
 gradual appreciation of the metal forming the standard 
 of value ; or that legislative interference would be 
 powerless to prevent, though it might lessen, this latter 
 phenomenon. 
 

 
 ;358 
 
 
 
 
 
 X 
 
 
 Comparative List of Prices of sundry Articles of Froi 
 
 
 
 
 1874. 
 
 1875. 
 
 187(3. 1 
 
 1 
 
 /'/. 
 
 COCH INE AL, fair silver 
 
 per lb. 
 
 2s. Id. 
 
 Is. lid. 
 
 l.\ 
 
 
 Cocoa, Guayaquil 
 
 per cwt. 
 
 50s. @ 525. 
 
 i2s. @ iis. 
 
 50.-. ' 
 
 
 Coffee, Middling Plantation 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Ceylon 
 
 }> 
 
 133^. 
 
 985. 
 
 Hi: 
 
 
 Cotton— 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Middling Upland 
 
 per lb. 
 
 S^d. 
 
 7kd. 
 
 7d. 
 
 
 Fair Surat 
 
 J) 
 
 5^'^d. 
 
 bd. 
 
 Ud. 
 
 Hides— 
 
 
 
 
 
 Eiver Plate, heavy salted. . . 
 
 ji 
 
 ltd. 
 
 Wi. 
 
 ^d. 
 
 light „ ... 
 
 )) 
 
 7f/. 
 
 Australian heavy „ ... 
 
 M 
 
 (\d. 
 
 Wi. 
 
 5^,d. 
 
 light „ ... 
 
 » 
 
 'old. 
 
 'oil. 
 
 Indigo- 
 
 
 
 
 
 Middling shipping Bengal 
 
 >» 
 
 7s. 2d. @ 7.?. id. 
 
 7s. id. @ 7s. Gd. 
 
 6s. 10. 
 
 Jute, medium quality 
 
 per ton 
 
 15?. 10s.@lGI. l')S. 
 
 14/. 15.v.@ir./. 105. 
 
 15/. - 
 
 Rice, Rangoon 
 
 per cwt. 
 
 IU.@ I2s. M. 
 
 8.V. \)d. @ 1)5. 
 
 75. lOd. (a >.v. 
 
 »•'■ ' 
 
 Saltpethe 
 
 )> 
 
 22s. @ 2is. 6d. 
 
 195. Cd. @ 2l5. dd. 
 
 J75. @ l[)s.\ 
 
 U.<i 
 
 Sugar— 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Brown Manilla 
 
 M 
 
 ISs. C>d. 
 
 Us. 
 
 lis. (d. 
 
 til 
 
 Good & fine West Indian... 
 
 }J 
 
 2os. @ 2Gs. 
 
 235. 
 
 20.V. 
 
 \iJ 
 
 Tea, sound common Congou 
 
 per lb. 
 
 Is. V^d. 
 
 11^/. 
 
 lOd. 
 
 ^ 
 
 Tobacco— 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Virginia leaf 
 
 j> 
 
 M. (w Is. 
 
 7d. @ Is. 2d. 
 
 5hd. @ l5. S 
 
 m 
 
 strips 
 
 >> 
 
 T^d.rd) }]d. 
 
 d^d. @ l5. id. 
 
 i)d. (a) I..-. 2( 
 
 iA 
 
 Kentucky leaf 
 
 >> 
 
 id. @ lid. 
 
 C)d. @ ]s. \d 
 
 Hd. @ 1« 
 
 X» 
 
 strips 
 
 >> 
 
 7 Id. @ lOd. 
 
 i)d. @ Is. Id. 
 
 sd:@ U. U 
 
 i.& 
 
 AVooL— 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 English sheep's, ^ hog, 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ^ wether 
 
 ;) 
 
 Is. Md. 
 
 Is. Shd. 
 
 U. C^d. 
 
 k 
 
 Australian : average Vic- 
 
 
 
 ' 
 
 
 
 toria washed 
 
 )5 
 
 2s. (a) 2.V. Id. 
 
 2s. \d. 
 
 is. 1\4. 
 
 m 
 
 gi-casy 
 
 M 
 
 Is. 2d. 
 
 \s. 2d. @ l.y. 3d. 
 
 Lv. hi. 
 
 k 
 
 Mohair 
 
 >J 
 
 2s. Hd. 
 
 lis. r>d. 
 
 35. 7^^/. 
 
 k 
 
 Alpaca 
 
 Jl 
 
 2s. 4d. 
 
 2s. Sd. 
 
 25. bd. 
 
 k 
 
 At commencement of January 
 in respective years. 
 
 
 1873. 
 
 1874. 
 
 1875. 
 
 1876. 
 
 18; 
 
 Copper, Chili bar 
 
 per ton 
 
 mi. 
 
 84/. 
 
 83Z. 105. 
 
 82/. 
 
 ;', 
 
 Ikon, Scotch pig 
 
 )) 
 
 127.?. 
 
 107.<f. Gd. 
 
 80.*. 
 
 fi4.v. 3rt 
 
 k 
 
 Lead, English 
 
 «j 
 
 21/. 10.y. 
 
 24/. ns. 
 
 23/. 105. 
 
 22/. 125. 
 
 11. 
 
 Tin, foreign 
 
 
 142/. 
 
 12U/. 
 
 94/. 
 
 82/. 
 
 I 
 
 Wheat, English Imperial) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 average throughout the / 
 United Kingdom ... ) 
 
 per qr. 
 
 55.V. ]]d. 
 
 C,2s. Id. 
 
 445. Sd. 
 
 455. (V/ 
 
 Jk 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 London, 31,v/ J(ninai 
 
 7/, 18S3 
 
 • 
 
 
 
 
 i 
 
 ■ 
 
 
! 
 
 
 
 
 
 ao9 
 
 
 
 
 
 Pr, luarij of each of the undermentioned Tjears : — 
 
 876, 177. 
 
 1878. 
 
 1879. 
 
 1880. 
 
 1881. 
 
 1882. 
 
 ■ 'i . dd. 
 C*3( @ (50.?. 
 
 2.?. Id. 
 lis. @ 7is. 
 
 2.i. 
 108,?. @ 1105. 
 
 35. 
 
 785. @ 805. 
 
 l5. 9r7. 
 595. @ 005. 
 
 l5. 6^7. 
 6l5. @ 63.?. 
 
 ^k 20s. 
 
 102s. 
 
 975. 
 
 1035. 
 
 805. 
 
 745. 
 
 i ^d. 
 
 -I :%d. 
 
 GU. 
 iWl. 
 
 
 md. 
 Hd. 
 
 4frf. 
 
 G^d. 
 i^^d. 
 
 I Td. 
 i Id. 
 I id. 
 
 I y. 
 
 Sd. 
 7d. 
 5ld. ■ 
 Hd- 
 
 Ud. 
 G\d. 
 hd. 
 i^d. 
 
 Gd. 
 hid. 
 
 5ii* 
 
 l\d. 
 Gld. 
 bU. 
 b\d. 
 
 « @ 7.?. Gd. 
 I: s'.Gd.@l6l 
 > f. dd. 
 i \d. @ 2ls. 
 
 Gs. 2d. @ Gs. id. 
 
 147. lo.?.@ 157.105. 
 
 9*'. l^d. 
 
 20s. @ 22s. 
 
 Gs. @ Gs. 2d. 
 
 117. @ 127. 
 
 8.?. 7^r7. 
 
 185. @ 19.?. 6^7. 
 
 7s. 9d. @ 85. 
 187. 5.?. @ 187. 155. 
 
 95. @ 95. 3d. 
 21s. @ 23s. 3d. 
 
 (),?.6^.@n5.10^7. 
 
 167. 5.?. @ 177. 
 85. 7^r7.@85. 9d. 
 
 245. 6^7. @ 255. 
 
 Gs. lOd. @ 7s. 
 
 1.57. 10.?. @ 167. 
 
 85. @ 7,?. 10^r7. 
 
 235. 3d.^ 
 
 I 22s. 
 .?. Gd. 
 Shd. 
 
 Us. Gd. 
 21s. 
 9d. 
 
 15,?. 
 
 2l5. 
 
 8^. 
 
 18.?. 
 
 2.55. Gd. 
 
 Ud.@ Is. 
 
 14.?. 3d. 
 
 22s. 
 
 Gd. @ GU. 
 
 15.?. 
 23.?. 
 bd. 
 
 M. @ Is. 
 
 §1. (a) l.v. 
 
 If @ \oy. 
 I. @ u. 
 
 id. @ Ud. 
 5U,. @ K)d. 
 2\d. @ Hd. 
 bd. @ 9fr7. 
 
 3r7. @ lOd. 
 i^d. @ lOd. 
 
 2y.. @ Ud. 
 
 "id. @ Sd. 
 
 id. @ Is. 
 od. @ 101^7. 
 
 3d. @ \C)d. 
 ihd. @ Ohd. 
 
 id. @Ud. 
 5r7. @ lOyi. 
 3d. @ lC)d. 
 41^7. @ 9^7. 
 
 id.@ Is. 3d. 
 
 Gyi.@ Is. Id. 
 
 "id. @ lOd. 
 
 b^d. @ lOd. 
 
 ]s. Gd. 
 
 Is. id. 
 
 Is. Id. 
 
 Is. 2^d. 
 
 l5. 1^7. 
 
 Is. 0\d. 
 
 d.(a)\s.Ud. 
 Is. ]d. 
 Ss. Id. 
 2s. Id. 
 
 Is. 10d.(a> 1.?. lid. 
 Is. Id. 
 3.?. O^d. 
 Is. 877. 
 
 Is. 9d. 
 Is. 
 
 Is. lOyi. 
 Is. 5d. 
 
 Is. Ud. (a) 2s. 
 Is. 2d. 
 2s. 2U. 
 Is. hd. 
 
 I5.9r7.@l.?.10f7. 
 
 1,?. 
 
 l5. 10^7. 
 
 l5. 3^7. 
 
 Is. lOd. 
 Is. Id. 
 Is. 9d. 
 Is. bd. 
 
 877. 
 
 1878. 
 
 1879. 
 
 1880. 
 
 1881. 
 
 1882. 
 
 1883. 
 
 d. 10.?. 
 7.?. Gd. 
 I. 10.?. 
 )Z. lOs. 
 
 GGl. 
 
 51s. Gd. 
 
 191. 2s. Gd. 
 
 GGl. 
 
 577. 
 
 ins. 
 
 147. 12.?. Gd. 
 
 Gil. 
 
 657. 105. 
 
 G75. 
 
 197. 75. Gd. 
 
 917. 10.?. 
 
 627. 10.?. 
 535. 4^7. 
 157. 55. 
 917. 10,?. 
 
 707. 55. 
 5l5. 9^7. 
 
 157. 
 1077. 105. 
 
 657. 5.?. 
 
 485. Hd. 
 
 137. 15,?. 
 
 927. 12.?. 6^7. 
 
 Is. Gd. 
 
 ols. 9d. 
 
 30s. Id. 
 
 4G.?. Ud. 
 
 41.?. Ud. 
 
 445. 9d. 
 
 405. 7^7. 
 
8G0 ' 
 
 But no sane man has ever hoped to prevent the " ups 
 "and downs in prices which result from otlier causes" by 
 legislative action, nor by any such action to forbid that 
 gradual appreciation of the metal forming the standard 
 which may spring from natural causes. Such an appre- 
 ciation will take place imder a bimetallic system of money, 
 from the same cause as under a monometallic system, if the 
 production of gold and silver both diminish at the same 
 time, but, in contending that probability and history are 
 both against such a thing happening and continuing to 
 happen, I onl}^ follow some of the most able and most 
 learned on the monometallic side of the question. What 
 I do advocate is, not a futile attempt to interfere with the 
 action of natural and slowly-acting causes, but the appli- 
 cation of a remedy which will surely counteract those evils 
 which hasty legislative action has caused and may cause 
 again ; and that remedy is a return by England to the 
 bimetallic standard, or, at least, some practical encouragement 
 on her part to induce other nations to return to the full 
 use of it. Either policy would bring us back to the state 
 of things as they existed before the violent action of 
 Germany brought about the present difficulties. 
 
 The remarks of the Statist are mainly directed to shoAv 
 how much less dangerous appreciation of the standard 
 metal is than depreciation ; and he assumes that the aim of 
 Mr. Goschen in his speech, and of all those who find 
 danger in an abnormal contraction of the currency, is " to 
 " substitute new conditions which would give the stimulus 
 " to industry formerly given by the continually increasing 
 " abundance of money." 
 
 But I may express my belief that Mr. Goschen desires 
 no such thing, and my own assurance tliat I have no such 
 wish. 
 
 I suppose that the ideal perfection of a monetary system 
 is, that there should be just so much of circulating medium 
 as will suffice for the commercial and domestic wants of the 
 
 iMr. If. ir. Gibbs, 
 
8()1 
 
 community — not so much as unduly to foster speculation — 
 not so little as unduly to fetter legitimate trade ; and, 
 above all things, that there should he the greatest attainable 
 steadiness in the volume of the ciu-rency. Some regularity 
 in this respect is possible, but immobility is neither possible 
 nor desirable ; and the hope of the Statist that we shall in 
 no wise alter '' our determination to maintain an unchanging 
 " standard for money in this country*' is sufficiently proved 
 to be Utopian, by his own argument that by the operation 
 of natiu-al causes (and, I may add, by the operation of law) 
 its value is continually liable to change. 
 
 To return to the question of the decline of prices; there 
 is one notable exception. In wages there is no such fall. 
 On the contrary, it would seem that ' there has been a 
 marked improvement in the condition of the labourer, both 
 in increase of wages and in diminished cost of some of the 
 necessaries of life. 
 
 This is not the place for a disquisition on the causes 
 which place the price of that fundamental commodity, 
 labour, in a different category from the jirices of commodities 
 produced by labour; but, I may remark (1) that it seems 
 obvious that, in the long run, the price of labour must be 
 regulated by the ability of the labourer to live upon his 
 wages, and by the ability of the occupier of the soil to 
 pay him ; (2) that the general increase of his wages seems 
 consequent upon a conviction to which both he and his 
 employers awoke some time since that he had been 
 imderpaid, — a conviction which bore substantial fruit, 
 partly by reason of the flow of the wealth of the great 
 towns into the country districts, and partly by the increased 
 power of organization amongst the labourers themselves, 
 both causes being helped by the greater facilities of com- 
 munication and locomotion enjoyed in the present day; and 
 (3) that, whereas the increase of his weekly pay must have 
 tended to produce an increase in the prices of the com- 
 modities he consumes, the reverse seems to be the case. 
 
862 
 
 But if the reverse is the case, and if those consumable 
 articles have persistently fallen in price, it is one proof the 
 more that there must be some general and abnormal cause 
 for their fall. 
 
 To say that the real cause is the badness of trade is 
 merely to argue in a circle, for we arc at once driven to ask, 
 " What, then, is the general and abnormal cause of the 
 " badness of trade ? " 
 
 Nor does it appear that over-production of commodities 
 is an adequate cause for this continuous decline in prices ; 
 such a decline should naturally have checked production, 
 and the facilities of telegraphic communication should 
 rather tend to adjust production to demand ; but the 
 establishment of railways in producing countries has opened 
 up new fields of production, and the increase of the means 
 of rapid transit between those countries and England, has 
 brought their produce nearer to its greatest market; and 
 the result has been that many articles have been produced 
 in abundance greater than the increase of population has 
 demanded, and that over-supply has brought down their 
 price. But the improvement of the means of transit, and 
 the increased production which it has helped to cause, have 
 been neither continuous nor universal, and a persistent 
 decline of price would seem to suppose a persistent and 
 universal cause. 
 
 One cause alone has been persistent ; and that is the 
 appreciation of gold. That commodity is produced less 
 and is used more, and, like all other commodities iu like 
 case, it is consequently dearer. In buying it Avith other 
 commodities we must give more of them than we should do 
 if those two circumstances did not exist. 
 
 So much, then, for the second question — whether the 
 alleged fall in prices is mainly or greatly due to the 
 appreciation of gold. 
 
 The first question (whether there is such a fall) is 
 abundantly answered by the foregoing table of price.^. 
 
 Mr. //. If. Gibhs. 
 
303 
 
 The third question — whether the proportion between 
 the mass of gold money and the commodities it measures 
 has been disturbed — is to be answered as follows : — 
 
 1 . — The outjmt of gold from the mines appears to have 
 declined in the last 10 years, as will be seen by the following 
 table (;?. 364), the figures in which are taken from those 
 compiled by Sir Hector Hay, and printed in the Journal 
 of the Institute of Bankers of last month (March, 1883). 
 
 The production of gold in the year ending June 30, 
 1882, is, it will be seen, £2,070,000 less than that of 
 the year 1870, and £4,200,000 less than that of the year 
 of the greatest yield, 1878. 
 
 The estimates made in the United States give larger 
 figures, but with few exceptions they show the same 
 upward and downward tendency as Sir Hector Hay's. 
 They show a f\illing off of £4,374,000 between 1882 and 
 1870, in the total production of the world; and £2,832,000 
 in that of their own country. 
 
 It appears, therefore, that the chief difference is in 
 the estimated yield of other countries ; and it must be 
 admitted that there is great difficulty in arriving at a 
 correct account of their production. 
 
 M. Alexander Del Mar, formerly a Director of the 
 United States Bureau of Statistics, writes as follows in a 
 letter to the Mining World, dated 4th January last (1883), 
 as to the probable decline in production ; and if we may 
 take his opinions to be correct, we cannot consider the 
 figures in the second column of the following table as 
 likely to be maintained. 
 
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 " no gold is being now prodnccd, I have derived a very firm 
 " conviction that at least for five or ten years to come none 
 " of these conntries will be enabled to increase their present 
 " ontpnt, bnt, on the contrary, that it will diminish. In all 
 " of these countries there are certain mines which will doubtless 
 " increase their product, and there are many new and probably 
 " very rich mines yet to be opened in them ; but speaking of the 
 " countries generally, I cannot believe that their output of gold 
 " will not diminish. The same must be said of Australia. There 
 " is a future for gold in Africa ; but this future, so far as any 
 ** product of importance to the world is concerned, is a long 
 " way off. Mining depends on climate, Avater, the organisation 
 " of labour, and the general condition of the mechanical arts. 
 " Labourers who cannot handle a spade, a drill, a pick, a plane, 
 *' or a saw, will not make good miners ; and countries where 
 " these tools are not used or cannot be obtained, and whore there 
 " are no roads, foundries, mills, nor workshops, are poor places for 
 " successful mining. India has all these disadvantages, together 
 " with the further one of being, so far as gold is concerned, a 
 " very old and thoroughly searched country. On the whole, 
 '* therefore, I am compelled to believe the future production of 
 " gold must diminish." 
 
 2. — Population has largely increased, and with popu- 
 lation must have increased also the quantity of gold money 
 in the personal possession of the people ; so that if 
 £ 100,000,000 was a correct estimate of the amount of gold 
 in the United Kingdom, exclusive of the Reserve in the 
 Issue Department of the Bank of England, a quarter of a 
 century ago, we may now well add, at least, £20,000,000 
 to the sum. 
 
 3. — Luxury also has greatly increased, and that fact, 
 together with the increase of population, has doubtless 
 increased largely the use of gold for ornaments, and 
 otherwise in the Arts. M. Chevalier, writing in 1857, 
 estimated the annual consumption of the metal for articles 
 
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 of luxury at 1,236,655 ounces, or about £5,000,000 sterling ; 
 and it may not be unreasonable to compute that, at tlie 
 present time, the amount may have increased to £ 7,000,000 
 sterling, a quantity about equal to the Avhole yearly 
 American output. 
 
 4. — Up to this time, paper — resting on no metallic 
 basis — has largely taken the place of metallic money. 
 Austria, Kussia, Portugal, Brazil, the Argentine Republic, 
 Turkey, Italy, Spain, Peru, Chili, and Japan, have all, 
 at various times, suspended specie payments. Spain, 
 I believe, has resumed them on a quasi-bimetallic basis ; 
 and Italy has made provision for resumption of specie 
 payments on the 12th of this month (April, 1883). Should 
 any or all of these follow her example, and in resuming 
 specie payments adopt gold as the metal for their coinage, 
 the effect cannot but be very great on the gold prices of 
 the world. 
 
 The action of Germany in its adoption of a gold 
 currency in place of silver, the action of the Scandinavian 
 nations in following her example, and the possible action 
 of the United States and of PloUand in the same direction, 
 cannot but make the strain more intense. 
 
 We see, then, that all the four things spoken of above 
 have hap])ened ; that the production of gold has declined, 
 is declining, and in the .opinion of those well qualified to 
 judge will continue to decline, and that the demand for it, 
 both in the Arts and for money purposes, has increased, is 
 increasing, and with the increase of population will continue 
 to increase ; and it seems to me that when this becomes 
 evident to the gold-using nations, they will be inclined 
 to ado2:)t, or further the adojition of, the only measure 
 which can lighten the strain upon them, and that is the 
 associating silver with gold in the monetary work of the 
 world. 
 
 Mr. H. II. Gibbs. 
 
8G7 
 
 Should it be asked what harm can come of a dlnunislied 
 price, if it be caused by the increased value of that which 
 the merchant receives for his goods, — if, that is to say, the 
 diminution in quantity be compensated by an improvement 
 in quality of the money received, — the answer is that, if and 
 when the decline in price from this cause is a settled and 
 concluded matter, and the price is once adjusted to the 
 altered measure of value, then, as the Statist rightly says, 
 in the passage above quoted, trade can go on without 
 interruption, and without future injury from this source to 
 any one. But while the four causes above-mentioned are 
 in action, when one of them, the demand for gold for money 
 purposes is likely to increase, and when, consequently, it is 
 not only the case that prices have declined, but that they 
 are declining, the condition is a very different one. A 
 season of declining prices is almost necessarily a season 
 of unprofitable trade. A merchant who has advanced his 
 money on the market value of a commodity suffers loss 
 when the goods arrive and he finds that the market value 
 has diminished beyond his calculation ; and not he only 
 suffers, but the consumer suffers also in the long run ; for 
 though he is for the moment benefited by the cheapness 
 of the commodities he uses, yet the decline in their price 
 tries to the utmost the endurance of the producer; and 
 no one will care to continue importing goods which may 
 most probably fall in price by the time they arrive. 
 So, then, the tendency of the continued decline must 
 be to injure both producer and consumer, and to paralyse 
 trade. 
 
 If it be asked, " Is it not a positive good to England 
 "that gold should be appreciated?" "England," it may 
 be said, " is a creditor nation, and her debts are due to her 
 " in gold. The scarcity of gold has made that metal more 
 " valuable, and she must needs be the gainer by this, and 
 '• must continue to be still more the gainer if gold becomes 
 " scarcer still. Is it to be expected that she should throw 
 
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 " away this advantage^ and by admitting silver to a 
 " partnership with gold, exalt the value of the first, and 
 " lower the value of the second ?" 
 
 I must reply by another question : What is a creditor 
 country ? Are we all creditors, and creditors only ? The 
 meaning of the phrase is, no doubt, that, on balance, the 
 nation has more to receive than to pay, and the inference 
 is that the balance must come in the appreciated and 
 appreciating metal. But who are they who are to receive 
 it? Not so much the producers, the makers of the wealth 
 of the land (though they, also, to the extent of their profits 
 are recipients), as the holders of fixed incomes, the fruges 
 consumere nati. But if we look to the advantage of 
 England at large, we must admit that it is not these for 
 whom we should be most solicitous ; especially as every 
 increase in the value of the three sovereigns which they 
 duly and punctually receive on each hundred pounds of 
 their Consols, is an addition to the burden of the National 
 Debt, payable alike by the working bees as by the drones ; 
 alike by the debtor who loses by the appreciation of gold, 
 as by the creditor who gains. My conclusion is, that the 
 bringing back of gold to its old relation to commodities 
 would be no real injury to England. 
 
 I have said above that it has been demonstrated that 
 there is no analogy between fixing by law the ratio that 
 gold money shall bear to silver money and fixing the money- 
 prices of commodities; but if I am met with the answer 
 that gold and silver are commodities like all others, and 
 that their price must be governed, accordingly, by the cost 
 of their production, I must reply that those two metals are 
 no doubt commodities, but that neither gold nor silver, 
 both being full money in the same country, can possibly be 
 priced each in terms of the other ; and though undoubtedly 
 like all others in their essence as commodities, yet they 
 differ from all others in their accidents. Every one, 
 bimetallist or monometallist, must admit that both or either 
 
 Mr. II. II. Gihbs, 
 
^69 
 
 of them are differently conditioned from all other commo- 
 dities ; namely, in these four ways following : — 
 
 First. — They are the measures of all commodities, and 
 are measured by them. Of no other commodities can this 
 be affirmed. 
 
 Second. — It is of little importance to the world (though 
 of great importance to the producer) whether the production 
 of these measuring metals is greater or less. It is of the 
 greatest importance to the world, as well as to the producer, 
 whether other commodities (or almost all of them) are 
 produced or not. 
 
 If no more wheat is produced, it is a world-wide 
 calamity, immediate in its effect. 
 
 If no more gold and silver is produced the world is 
 not visibly or immediately the Avorse. Circulation will be 
 gradually contracted as wear and tear of the existing stock 
 goes on, and prices will gradually and imperceptibly fall ; 
 but the hindrance to trade, though certain, is necessarily 
 slow. 
 
 Third. — Ninety per cent, of the demand for the precious 
 metals being for one purpose only, that of serving as money, 
 the demand for either of them in any country, and conse- 
 quently in all countries, is subject to be almost entirely 
 and quite suddenly extinguished by the action of law. 
 This can be said of no other commodity ; nor, if it could, 
 would the extinction of the demand for it affect all other 
 commodities, as the extinction of the demand for gold or 
 silver as money must do. 
 
 Fourth. — All other commodities— speaking generally — 
 are consumable and produced to be consumed ; their reason 
 of existence is that they may be worked up and used, and 
 perish in the using. Roughly speaking, there is no stock 
 
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of any of them beyond a very few years' production : — 
 where is the wheat of 1880? — but the stock of gold and 
 silver is the production of a thousand years ! 
 
 The production of gold and silver from 1493 to 1875 
 was estimated by Seyd to be £1,230,000,000 of gold and 
 £ 1,469,000,000 of silver, £2,699,000,000 in all; and adding 
 £101,000,000 for the production of 1876-8, we have a total 
 of £2,800,000,000. He computes, further, that taking into 
 account the production before 1493, there existed now, in 
 the shape of coined money or bullion serving as money, 
 a sum of £ 1,580,000,000.* 
 
 How small is the proportion which an annual increment 
 of £25,000,000 or £30,000,000 in coin or bullion bears to 
 this vast stock; and how little influence can the cost of 
 production of that small addition have on the relative value 
 of the stock of money-metals and the stocks of other com- 
 modities ! But in the case of consumable commodities, the 
 annual production of which bears a very large proportion 
 to the existing stocks, the cost of that production must 
 necessarily and immediately influence the price of the 
 commodity. 
 
 The precious metals, we are told, experience, as all 
 other commodities do, great changes of value from the 
 action of Supply and Demand. That they will do so 
 from the arbitrary cessation of Demand is incontestable ; 
 but Supply depends mainly on existing stocks, which may 
 almost be considered a constant quantity, while if by 
 Supply is meant annual supply, we have seen that it is 
 relatively insignificant; but of the mass of commodities 
 
 * Allowing 1/20^'' for waste by abrasion, and a suflBcient sum for 
 loss and forgotten hoards, the £2,800,000,000 may perhaps be reduced 
 by about £400,000,000 during the years from 141)3-1 87S ; and deducting 
 the £ 1,580,000,000 supposed to exist in current coin and bullion, it would 
 follow that no less than £800,000,000 must be stored in the form of 
 articles of luxury, or hidden away in hoards. 
 
 3fr. U. 11. Gihhs. 
 
871 
 
 it nicay be said, that their existence depends on their annual 
 supply. 
 
 So then, in arguing for the possibility of fixing and 
 maintaining a definite ratio between gold and silver, 
 serving as money, tliere is no need to show that they have 
 any especial quality^ as compared with the commodities 
 they measure. It is enough that they are so differently 
 conditioned from all others, and so like-conditioned wdth 
 one another, that it is both possible and easy to yoke them 
 together as one combined medium of exchange and measure 
 of value. 
 
 The ground of controversy is narroAving. We are all 
 practically agreed on the main features of the position. 
 Gold has grown and is growing scarcer, prices have 
 declined and are declining, trade has suffered and is 
 suffering. Mr. Goschen, the late Mr. Stanley Jevons, 
 Mr. Giffen, the writer in the Statist^ and the WTiter in 
 the Daily News, and a host of other wa-iters, testify to 
 these facts. But the monometallist writers, while they 
 admit the evil, all tell us that time will cure it. No, not 
 all. Mr. Jevons proposed as a remedy the issue of one- 
 pound notes, and many writers and speakers are now 
 putting forth this plan — some as a remedy, some as being 
 itself a good. So, then, those of our opponents wdio look 
 wdth horror on the association of silver as money with gold 
 because forsooth it is an inferior metal, and because notes 
 issued on silver would not have a solid basis of value, 
 are not at all afraid to advocate the issue of millions of 
 fiduciary notes having no basis at all, — promises to pay 
 issued on the security of — promises to pay. 
 
 The more I consider the matter, the closer I look into 
 it, the more sure I am that the system which I advocate, 
 though it seem to contradict in words the dicta of Lord 
 Liverpool, is yet the only real carrying out of his system. 
 He urged unity and uniformity of metallic money of full 
 weight and fineness as a necessity for the nation. Unity 
 
 2 B 2 
 
S72 
 
 of money Is impossible for that great nationwrncn aJ 
 commercial peoples form. No one desires it, or dreams 
 of it. But a uniform metallic money is possible, and for 
 the very reasons which Lord Liverpool gives, desirable, 
 and that is what I advocate. 
 
 Some objectors are satisfied to accept, without inquiry, 
 their own or other men's statement, that what I advocate 
 is impossible. My answer is that it is not only not impos- 
 sible, but has been practically done for 70 years in this 
 century, and will be done again. 
 
 HENKY H. GIBBS. 
 
 London, April, 1883. 
 
 P.S. — Since the foregoing paper was written, Mr. 
 Goschen has delivered a very interesting address to the 
 Institute of Bankers, strongly supporting my view that the 
 scarcity of gold has lowered prices and injured trade. He 
 expresses, indeed, the belief that the period of change in 
 values, during which time alone is any hurt done to trade, 
 will ])r()bably be short, and that all will soon subside into 
 a normal condition ; but Mr. Giffen, speaking on the same 
 occasion, thought that there was greater probability that 
 the production of gold would go on diminishing, and the 
 demand for it go on increasing for an indefinite time, so 
 that it was impossible to foresee the day when the desired 
 steadiness in the relation of gold to commodities should be 
 reached. 
 
 Mr. Henry Sldgwlck, Professor of Moral Philoso])}iy 
 in the University of Cambridge, also, has made of late a 
 very important contribution to iha study of this subject in 
 his book on the Princijdcs of Political Kconomy^ where he 
 maintains the view advocated in these pages. 
 
373 
 
 Referring to what I liave written on p. 351 as to further 
 demands for gold, I would observe that the resumption of 
 specie payments by Italy there spoken of as imminent, has 
 since taken place, and the predictions of those who believed 
 that slie Avoidd be unable to retain the gold have not as yet 
 been verified. Gold will leave her shores, of course, just 
 as it will leave ours, when its export is needed ; and to 
 retain it, or to recall it, she will have to do as we do in 
 like case — raise her rate of discount. 
 
 Holland, also, has lost her silver to the amount of one 
 million sterling, and has supplied its place with gold drawn 
 from this country. 
 
 I must correct what I Avrote on p. 361 as to wages. 
 Agricultural wages have risen, and so have the wages 
 of many handicrafts ; but this has not been the case 
 everywhere, nor in all trades. In some there has been a 
 notable fall. 
 
 London, Junc^ 1883. 
 
rp 
 
 rilE PEICE or SILVEE. 
 
 To the Editor of the Economist, September 19, 1885, 
 
 Sir, — I propose in this letter to make answer to three 
 questions which were put to me in the Money Article of 
 The Times of the 24th and 29th ultimo. 
 
 I am asked whether I should consider a violent rise in 
 the price of silver to be bad for trade, and it is intimated 
 that I say nothing on this point, " for reasons which those 
 " who are familiar with the bimetallic controversy will not 
 " fail to comprehend." 
 
 In everything that I have written or said on the subject 
 I have advocated the bimetallic standard as productive of 
 steadiness in the price of silver, and I have deprecated all 
 violent fluctuations, whether in one direction or the other, 
 as harmful to sound trade. The reasons which it has been 
 thought might induce me to hold a contrary opinion are, 
 I presume, a desire for high prices and "cheap money"; 
 but as I have never expressed, and do not entertain that 
 desire, I need say no more about them. Those slight 
 oscillations in the price of silver which occurred before 
 1872, and which were for the most part due to the 
 variations of exchange between London and Paris, cannot 
 be considered as any injury to trade. I believe them to 
 be inevitable and practically harmless. 
 
 2. I am asked whether I have abandoned the views 
 expressed by me three years ago, and am prepared to 
 advocate a bimetallic union on the basis of 18| to 1. 
 
376 
 
 I have abandoned nothing. The essence of bimetallism 
 is free coinage of both metals to an unlimited extent, and 
 at a fixed ratio. The question whether this or that shall 
 be the ratio has nothing to do with the principle. I say- 
 now, as I have always said, that the ratio of 151- to 1 is 
 the most suitable ; first, because I believe it would be found 
 to be the proportion nearest to the truth, supposing the 
 demand for silver for coinage purposes were again at the 
 point at which it stood before the "demonetisation" of 
 that metal by Germany; and secondly, because that is the 
 actual legal ratio between gold and silver in France and 
 Germany, and the change to 18 J, or any other higher rate 
 than the present, would be attended with very grave diffi- 
 culties. I say now, as I have always said, that what I 
 seek is a near approach to stability of price, and that if I 
 cannot get it by the adoption of a more suitable ratio, 
 I am content to take it by the adoption of 18 J to 1, or 
 whatever be apparently indicated by the market price. 
 
 3. I am asked if I am not beginning to be afraid of 
 so "dangerous" an arrangement as "an international 
 " agreement for keeping up the price of silver." 
 
 I have never advocated any arrangement having that 
 for its ultimate object, but I do not think the worse of 
 the 15 J to 1 ratio, that it would deliver the Indian 
 Government and officials from some embarrassment, and 
 restore the value of silver remittances made to this country, 
 I sec no danger at all in an international agreement for 
 fixing that or some other ratio between silver and gold, 
 and for mints being freely open to the coinage of both 
 metals. On the extreme improbability of the infraction of 
 such a treaty, I wrote fully in an article in the Bullionist 
 of the 15th April, 1882, entitled, " Concerning Faith in 
 " Treaties." Self-interest wouhl prevent any such infrac- 
 tion — even as self-interest now threatens the existence of 
 the Latin Union, a combination which has very little in 
 
 Mr. IT, IL Gibbs. 
 
377 
 
 common with such a convention as I advocate, and which 
 contains in itself those seeds of disruption w^hich would be 
 wholly absent from a Bimetallic Union constituted on the 
 basis of the French Law. The Latin Union, on the con- 
 trary, in its present restricted form, involves the suspension 
 of the French Law, and the Union wdll fall, if it does fall, 
 not because it is a Union, but because it lacks the essential 
 condition necessary to success. It maintains a fixed ratio 
 between the tw^o money metals, but fails to preserve the 
 rule of a mint open to both to an unlimited extent, with 
 perfect freedom of action to the Gresham Law. 
 
 I have long sought in vain from the hands of any writer 
 on the subject a fair consideration of the one thing which 
 is the base of my contention, viz., the statement that 
 during the whole period of the unrestricted action of the 
 French Law, when the mint was freely open for coinage 
 at a ratio of 15 J to Ij there neither w^as nor could be any 
 other price in the London market than that which was as 
 near 60d, as the slight oscillations caused by the variations 
 of the exchange, by sudden demand, or by political crises, 
 would permit. 
 
 At last this assertion of mine is fairly met and boldly 
 traversed by the counter opinion that the French bimetallic 
 law was not, and could not be, the cause of the comparative 
 steadiness of the price of silver; and that it is a delusion 
 and an error into which I, in company with eminent 
 economists, monometallist as well as bimetallist, have fallen, 
 to suppose that it was ; and the assertion has even been 
 made that our advocacy of a fixed ratio between the metals 
 is one of the causes why the price of silver is not steady. 
 No attempt, indeed, has been made to prove the impossi- 
 bility of the effect supposed by me to have been produced 
 by the bimetallic la^v, nor to show how it could come to 
 pass that, when the seller of silver could get the equivalent 
 of 60d., or thereabout, in Paris, he would be content to 
 take a less price in London ; but another cause for the 
 
378 
 
 steadiness of price has been suggested, viz., that in the first 
 seventy years of the century, " the relation between the 
 '' masses of the two metals in existence was approxi- 
 "mately unchanged," and this notwithstanding that the 
 discoveries of gold, which had their first effect in 1852 
 (the production in that year increasing from 16 to 36 
 millions), poured in no less between the years 1852 and 1859, 
 both inclusive, than £226,220,000, against £74,020,000 
 of silver, of which the production was then, and for two 
 years more remained stationary at about £ 9,000,000 a year. 
 That influx had, it is said, as much influence as could 
 be expected, inasmuch as it forced up the price of silver to 
 over 62^?., and had the further effect that, notwithstanding 
 the glut of gold in France, the Bank of France had to 
 borrow from the Bank of England (in 1860) £2,000,000 of 
 that metal to prevent having to pay out all its silver. 
 
 I will add a few w^ords on the above three points. 
 1. The transactions between the Banks of France and 
 England; 2. The price of 62d. per ounce to which silver 
 was forced ; and 3. The supposed parity of relations 
 between the precious metals until 1 849. 
 
 1. You, Sir, will be at no loss for the reason why there 
 was any such persistent export of precious metals from 
 France in 1860, for the Economist of the day, in a very 
 able article, thoroughly explained it. The debtor no doubt 
 had the choice which metal he would pay his creditor 
 with ; gold was then the cheapest and silver the dearest, 
 relatively, of the two metals, and, given the necessity 
 of export, silver would obey the Gresham Law, and be 
 the one to leave the country. But why was there that 
 necessity ? Why was the Bank of France in any difficulty 
 at all? Not because of the bimetallic law, but because the 
 French Government would not permit it to adopt the only 
 true remedy in such a case, the only one by which bullion 
 
 Mr. II. II. Gihhs, 
 
879 
 
 can be retained at home or attracted from abroad — a rise 
 in the rate of discount. 
 
 2. Why was silver the dearer metal ? Not because of 
 the bimetallic law, but for the very simple reason that 
 large quantities of the metal were needed for export from 
 England to India for railway purposes, and that there was 
 no supply in England. It, therefore, became necessary to 
 purchase it where it could be had in the shape of bars, and 
 even of 5-franc pieces, the latter especially, by reason of 
 loss of weight by wear, involving greater cost. 
 
 But to what did the agio amount ? Silver rose to 62cL 
 an ounce in 1853, and varied between 60c?. and 62c?. and a 
 fraction during the succeeding 13 years ; and this rise of 
 about 3 per cent, can scarcely be as much as could have 
 been expected, seeing that the total production of gold 
 from 1849 to 1866 inclusive had been £430,000,000 (to add 
 to a stock in the world at the end of 1848 estimated at 
 £600,000,000, an increase of about 70 per cent.), and 
 though the excess of gold production over silver production 
 in the same period was no less than £253,000,000. It 
 would seem, then, that if the price was governed solely by 
 the relative production of the two metals, a much greater 
 rise than 3 per cent, might have been expected, and a 
 greater still when a further excess of gold of upwards of 
 £56,000,000 was produced from 1867 to 1872 inclusive. 
 But, on the contrary, the price of silver, in the face of that 
 excess of gold, gradually declined to the normal 60c/. 
 
 3. I have seen no attempt to prove the approximate 
 parity of relation between the metals which is imagined 
 as having existed from 1803 to 1872; but I think the 
 foregoing figures conclusively disprove it. For had that 
 parity existed up to 1849, and had it been, as is alleged, 
 the cause of the maintenance of the price of 60c?., then 
 it is clear that when the parity disappeared, and gold 
 
380 
 
 streamed in in such abundance, silver must have been 
 forced not to 62d. only, but to a price commensurate with 
 the disparity. It is impossible, therefore, to avoid the con-] 
 elusion that there was some other cause of the steady price. 
 
 Now the total production of silver from 1849 to 1872 
 inclusive was £249,000,000, and of gold £559,000,000; the 
 annual production of silver from 1849 to 1860 inclusive 
 was only about £9,000,000, increasing gradually to 
 £14,000,000 in 1872; but the average annual production 
 of gold from 1852 (when the increase began) to 1872 was 
 £24,500,000, or an excess of gold over silver of about 
 £15,000,000 a year; in the face of which excess silver had 
 fallen again by 1872 to about 60d, 
 
 The supposed parity serves to elucidate another point 
 above referred to. If that parity existed at the ratio of j 
 15 J to 1, or if, in other words, that ratio exhibited anything, 
 like the real proportion of the masses of the two precious 
 metals at the beginning of 1849, it follows that the yield 
 of gold having been since then enormously in excess of] 
 that of silver, the true relation cannot now^ be as high as 
 15J to 1, still less can it be 18J to 1; and I repeat my 
 contention that the former ratio w^ould be found to be 
 nearer the true relation than that which is indicated by 
 the present price of silver. 
 
 My conclusion is, — 1, that it cannot be the supposed 
 parity of relation which maintained a certain steadiness of 
 price from 1803 to 1872 ; 2, that, however great the 
 disparity of production and stock between the two metals 
 may have been, the bimetallic law did suffice to maintain 
 the steadiness of price. 
 
 I am, 
 
 Yours faithfully, 
 
 HENRY II. GIBBS. 
 
 Ahlcnliam House, ucar Elstrcc, Ilcrte, 
 Sept. 17, 1885. 
 
Passages from the concluding images of Mr. H. R. Grenfell's 
 Speech at the Memorial Hall at Manchester, February 6thj 
 
 1886:— 
 
 You are all aware that for some years past Mr. Gibbs 
 and I have been the President and Vice-President of an 
 association in London for the spread of the doctrine which 
 I have endeavoured to lay before you, and which association 
 Mr. Barclay and others are now desirous of enlarging upon 
 a more popular basis. A great deal of the correspondence 
 in which we have been engaged, I may say with leading 
 economists in various parts of the world, has been to a 
 limited extent confidential — that is to say, persons have 
 been good enough to impart to us the state of political 
 forces in these countries, so far as they were impediments 
 in the way of action on this question. Legislative confusion 
 is not limited to the English House of Commons. It exists 
 everywhere; but this correspondence in which we have 
 been engaged, enables me to set before you very briefly the 
 actual condition of affairs in other countries. 
 
 The United States followed the example which we set 
 in 1816, by enacting a gold standard at the close of their 
 great war. They seemed to think it would be a feather in 
 their cap. They paid off their debt with a rapidity which 
 has astonished the world ; but when they discovered the 
 evils arising from the contraction of their currency, they 
 passed the Bland Bill, which was a sort of compromise 
 between the gold party in New York and the silver party 
 of the West. And here I must be permitted to say, that 
 the silver party does not mean those interested in silver 
 mines alone, but the whole body of producers of agricultural 
 
88^2 
 
 I 
 
 wealth in the Western States. This limited coinage of 
 silver makes what is called a "lame standard." Silver is 
 legal tender to any amount for debts and taxes, but only 
 when coined. On the whole, I am of opinion that the 
 Government at Washington, though anxious to suspend 
 the compulsory coinage of silver, are in favour of 
 international bimetallism. Our latest information from 
 Washington justifies the opinion we have long held, that 
 the Bland Bill will not be suspended during the present 
 Session of Congress. ■ 
 
 France, and the Latin Union also, have had a lame 
 standard since 1873 ; all debts can be paid in coined silver, 
 as well as gold, but the coinage of silver is limited by HI 
 treaty between the States of the Union. Last autumn, 
 fears were entertained that the renewal of the treaty would 
 not be carried out; but it was signed and ratified not 
 long ago, and the French Government has very recently 
 Instituted a permanent commission to study the question. 
 
 Tlie state of affairs in Germany is extremely difficult 
 to portray accurately. Notwithstanding that we are 
 in daily communication with the bimetallists of that 
 country, we have failed to procure reliable statements as 
 to the definite opinions of the Great Chancellor. Nobody 
 understands the question better, for to him is attributed 
 the most epigrammatic summing-up of the whole gold 
 position, when he said, " The counterpane is too small for 
 " three to sleep in the bed." One thing is quite certain, 
 the matter has not been pooh-poolied in Germany, but is 
 now the subject of the most warm and eager debate. 
 
 With regard to our Indian Administration, the present 
 phase of the question seems to be one of helplessness. 
 Two proposals have been made, to each of which there 
 are insuperable objections. One is to limit the coinage of 
 silver till the coined dollar be artificially enhanced in 
 value. The other is to change the standard to a gold one. 
 This latter course would intensify the evil we are met to 
 
 Mr. If. R. GrenfelL 
 
388 
 
 consider. The Indian Administration will either find itself 
 witli an ever-increasing deficit, or else it must augment its 
 taxation. I have reason to believe that it is now putting 
 a very strong pressure on the Imperial Government in 
 the direction of negotiating for a double standard with the 
 nations. 
 
 I have now, gentlemen, shown you why we appealed to 
 a Platform agitation. Next, I entered into, I am afraid 
 very inadequately, the salient features of the question, and 
 I hope I was able to prove the truth of the doctrines we 
 are preaching ; and, finally, I have explained to you the 
 existing state of the question in America, Germany, the 
 Latin Union, and Indian Empire. 
 
 Now, what do we want you to do? It is to give us 
 your support in endeavouring to press on the Government 
 the advisability of doing that which all other Governments 
 have done, namely, of studying it as the Germans have, of 
 coming to a conclusion on it as the Americans have, or of 
 appointing a permanent special commission to watch it as 
 the French have, and to negotiate with these Governments, 
 if they are willing, through our diplomatic agents. 
 
 We believe that the other nations are perfectly willing 
 to enter into treaties, not only if ayc will bind ourselves, 
 but even if we are ready to take minor measures short of 
 an immediate and absolute adhesion. 
 
INDEX 
 
 A 
 
 PAGE 
 
 Africa, Future production of gold in 365 
 
 Agriculture, Effect of fall in prices on . , , . | ^3^ 
 
 America. See United States. 
 
 Arendt (Dr.) on bimetallism 269, 350 
 
 Argentine Republic. Suspension of specie payments , 366 
 
 fl44, 
 
 ) 191 192 
 Aristotle on the function and duty of money , , . < 203' 204' 
 
 (2161 217' 
 
 Arts, Use of gold and silver in the 355 
 
 Increased use of gold for ornaments .... 365-6 
 
 Ashburton (Lord). Opinion regarding a legal-tender silver 
 
 currency 122-3, 127 
 
 Australia. Gold. Cost of production 33 
 
 Decrease in the supply of . . . 4, 7, 367 
 
 Discoveries, and the relative price of the j gng 046 
 
 precious metals . . . . .1 2g2* ' 
 
 Effect of the discoveries on prices and 
 
 wages 157 
 
 Mint price in England and market price 
 
 in Australia 288, 291 
 
 Austria, Attitude of, as to bimetallism 42, 95 
 
 Suspension of specie payments 366 
 
 B 
 
 Bagehot (Walter). Examination before the Silver Com- 
 mittee 74 
 
 His objection to discuss bimetallism .... 95, 97 
 on the influence of the price of silver on Indian 
 exports 137 
 
 2 c 
 
386 
 
 PAGE 
 
 Bambeegee (Dr.) 316 
 
 Bank Charter Act, 1844, aimed at the extinction of the 
 
 country and Scotch bank issues .... 276 
 
 Efifect of a repeal of the Act 278 
 
 Power given to the Bank to hold gold and silver . 51 
 Professor Jevons on the expediency of carrying out 
 
 the third clause 108-9 
 
 Sir Robert Peel on the principle of the metallic 
 
 standard . . . Ill 
 
 Steps taken in 1881 towards authorising the Bank to 
 
 caiTy out the provisions of the Act as to silver . 167, 351 
 
 Bank Failures 279 
 
 ( 120 121 
 
 Bank Money as described by Lord Liverpool . . . . j ^^j 22I 
 
 Bank Notes. See JVbtcs. 
 
 Bank of England. Disposal of a shipment of silver under 
 
 a bimetallic law 50-52 
 
 f 180 181 
 If authorised to use silver at the market price of the day ] o 1 s' 
 
 Its action in raising the discount rate to six per cent. 231 
 Monopoly of note issue a pai-t of the Government 
 
 business 277 
 
 See Notes, — Bank of England. BanTi Charter Act. 
 Bank of France. Borrower of gold from Bank of England 
 
 in 1860 378 
 
 Depletion of the gold reserve in 1 848 . . . .83 
 
 Effect of the adoption of bimetallism on . . . 136-7 
 
 Italian currency lying in the 168 
 
 Large stock of five-franc pieces in hand . . .162 
 See Notes, — Bank of France. 
 
 Barter among the ancients 193 
 
 The use of silver with us approaches to . . . 22-3 
 "Bimetallic England." H. H. Gibbs. Reprinted from the 
 
 BuUiotiist 267-74 
 
 (113 n fi 
 Bimetallic circulation in England before 1819 . . . j 220' ' 
 
 ( 25 26 2 
 Effect of a bimetallic law \ 264 ' 
 
 T . T. ( 16, 223, 
 
 law m France { 37j ' 
 
 existing in a single country . . . .29 
 
 affecting the intrinsic ratio of value between gold 
 
 and silver 251 
 
 ( 88 100 
 standard. Stability of the ■ 3"--^ ' 
 
 in France defended by Sismondi . . .215 
 
 as affecting the value of money . . . 245-8 
 
 treaties. Fear of breach in time of war . . .124, 240 
 
 "Bimetallism." Professor Jevons. Reprinted from the 
 
 Contcmiwrarij Iteviciv 99-110 
 
 " Bimetallism Again." Professor Bonamy Price . . . 293-333 
 
 ( 17 207 
 Bimetallism, Advantages of • 267-9 ' 
 
 „ .. . , (107,159, 
 
 as affecting contracts 166 278 
 
 I 
 I 
 
387 
 
 Bimetallism — continued. page 
 
 Disadvantages of j j^^ ^^g 
 
 Effect of, on trade j 22(J 
 
 ^, . - ., I 20, 136, 
 on the price of silver < jgj. ' 
 
 X , -Tx i. • (10, 146, 
 on stability of prices < 202 380 
 
 Fundamental propositions 117 
 
 Object of 291 
 
 nv- .• + (34-6, 124, 
 
 Objections to (165,212 
 
 Bland Act, Dollars coined under provisions of . . . 353 
 
 Bombay, Traders of 202 
 
 Beamwell (Lord). Letter to the I'imes. " Is the Value of 
 
 Gold and Silver Money artificial?" .... 131-8 
 
 ( 337-8, 
 
 Letters to Mr. H. H. Gibbs ^40-41, 
 
 ( 343, 344 
 
 Answer to Col. Smith QQ 
 
 Bkazil. Suspension of specie payments 366 
 
 Bullion Committee (Report of). The foundation of the 
 
 English system of metallic currency . . .113 
 Use of the expressions " standard," and "chief coin 
 
 in use" . 200 
 
 Bullion Prices. Adoption of the prices of the day of legisla- 
 tion 316, 317 
 
 BuLLiONiST (The) adopted as the organ of bimetallism, 184, 186 
 Reprinted from : — > 
 
 "Bimetallic England.". . . . (H. H. Gibbs) 207-74 
 
 " Concerning Faith in Treaties." . . (H. H. Gibbs) 237-43 
 
 "Paper, or Metallic Inflation." . (H. R. Grenfell) 275-80 
 "The Ratio of Value between Gold and Silver." 
 
 (Clarmont Daniell) 251-8 
 
 "The Scramble for Gold." . . (H. H. Gibbs) 231-6 
 
 "The Value of Money." . . (H. H. Gibbs) 245-9 
 
 "Whither would the Dearer Metal Go?" 
 
 (H. R. GrenfeU) 259-65 
 
 BuLLlONlSTS believe that coining is an attribute of the State 277 
 
 Calcutta, Uncei-tain value of silver a disadvantage to the 
 
 trade of 21 
 
 Bank of , note circulation 203 
 
 California, Cost of gold discovered in 33 
 
 Effect of gold discoveries on value of the precious j 205, 208, 
 
 metals _. . • . .• 1 246, 283 
 
 Refusal to receive greenbacks at the time of the civil 
 
 vrar 91,96 
 
 2 C 2 
 
388 
 
 PAGE 
 
 Campbell (Sir George) on tlie stability of a double standard. 227 
 Cantillon. Influence of fluctuations in tlie precious metals 
 
 on the price of commodities 100 
 
 The market price decides the proportionate value of 
 
 gold and silver 105 
 
 Capital. Distinction between the " value of money " and the 
 
 interest paid on a loan of capital . . . .247-9 
 
 Cazalet (E.) 184 
 
 Cernuschi (H.) Contention that France gained by paying 
 
 away her gold 16-17,16! 
 
 Letters to the Times 149-50 
 
 on the ratio of gold to silver to be adopted . . .1 34, 252 
 Professor Jevons on M. Cernuschi's project. . . 102, 104 
 
 ( 147 
 Sir T. H. Farrer's replies to { j5o'5j 
 
 Chapman (Mr.) Memo, on an international bimetallic stan- 
 dard of value 203 
 
 j 14,60,121 
 
 Cheques, Economy of coin due to use of i 150, 272, 
 
 (343 
 Under a bimetallic law payments would continue 
 
 to be made in 49 
 
 Chevalier (M.) Estimate of the value of gold used in the 
 
 Arts 365 
 
 Chili. Suspension of specie payments 366 
 
 China, Effect of a gold or silver standard in . . . .41 
 
 the demonetization of silver in . . . 42, 120 
 
 Cobbett's Parliamentary History. Sir Isaac Newton on 
 
 the value of the guinea 143 
 
 Cochineal. Comparative prices, 1874-1882. (Table) . . 358-9 
 Cocoa. „ „ „ „ . . 358-9 
 
 Coffee. „ „ „ ,, . . 358-9 
 
 Commons (House of), Party feeling in the . . . .198 
 
 CoMSTOCK Mine 144 
 
 *' Concerning Faith in Treaties." Article reprinted from 
 
 the Bull ion hf. (Mr. H. H. Gibbs) 237-43 
 Contemporary Review, Reprinted from :— 
 
 "Bimetallism" .... (Prof essor Jevons) 99-110 
 References to " How Money does its work." ( 298, 304 
 
 (Professor B. Price) \ 308 
 Cotton. Comparative prices, 1874-1882. (Table) . . . 358-9 
 
 Copper. 1873-1883. • „ . . . 358-9 
 
 Crump (Arthur). Views on bimetallism examined . . 270, 272 
 
 D 
 
 Daily News. Ai-ticle on Trade and Finance .... 353, 371 
 Daniell (Clarmont) :— 
 
 *' Gold in the East," Correspondence reprinted from f 65-9, 
 the Economist on I 70-74 
 
389 
 
 Daniell (Clarmont) — continued. page 
 
 on gold monometallism for the world . . .213-14 
 
 *' On the Rates of Value between Gold and Silver." 
 
 Reprinted from the BuUionlst 251-8 
 
 As to where the dearer metal would go . . . 259-65 
 
 ( 304-10, 
 \ 31 3, 315, 
 J 3 1 7 319 
 
 Scheme of occasional adjustments of the ratio . . < '^^q '321' 
 
 )328|i332| 
 (333 
 Daru (Count). Argument for the French law of 1803 . . 77 
 Del Mar (Alex.) on the probable decline in the production of 
 
 gold 363 
 
 Depressiox ov Trade accounted for by the appreciation of 
 
 gold 78, 81 
 
 As to trade being permanently contracted . . .82 
 Effect of a revival of trade in India and the United 
 
 States 354 
 
 'Ml'. Goschen's paper read before the Institute of Bankers 3 72 
 Over-production of commodities 302 
 
 Double Standard (The) (H. H. Gibbs) | 225^9 
 
 Correspondence between Earl Grey and Mr. H. R. 
 
 GrenfeU 153-81 
 
 Drummoxd (Henry). Elementary propositions on the currency 03 
 
 E 
 
 Economist, Letters to the : — 
 
 On " Gold in the East" . . (H. R, GrenfeU) 05-8, 70-72 
 
 . . . (Clarmont DanieU) 68-9,72-4 
 
 ( 282-4, 
 On the ratio between gold and silver. (H. H. Gibbs) < 284-0, 
 
 ( 288-92 
 Editorial, in reply to Mr. H. H. Gibbs . . . 287-8 
 Effect on money and prices of the adoption of bi- 
 metallism 245, 249 
 
 On the existence of the double standard in England up 
 
 to the suspension of cash payments . . . .199 
 On the breach of a bimetallic treaty .... 240 
 
 England. Centre of international payments . . . • ' no 9(1 
 
 Debts payable in gold or silver, 1717-1778, up to £25 . 116 
 
 Gold stock 149 
 
 has the largest stock of gold 104 
 
 Hindrance to monetary concord 40, 42 
 
 Inconvenience of a single standard . . . .24 
 Silver standard abolished inadvertently . . .127 
 
 Stocks of debased silver coin 149 
 
 Europe. Limitation of silver coinage 7 
 
 Lord Sherbrooke's proposal to alter the standard of 
 value 209-10 
 
390 
 
 F 
 
 PAGE 
 
 ( 138-42, 
 Faeeee (Sii- T. H.) Letters to tlie Times . . . . <^ 147, 
 
 ( 150-51 
 
 Mr. H. H. Gibbs , . . 335-6 
 
 Faucher (Leon). Depreciation of silver in 1842 . . . 83-5 
 Fawcett (Right Hon. Henry) :— 
 
 Qu estion to Mr. Bagehot before the Silver Commission 74 
 FOETNIGHTLY REVIEW, Reprinted from : — 
 
 " The Case against Bimetallism." . (R. Giffen) 75-98 
 Fowler (Wm.) on the issue of one-pound notes . . . 277, 280 
 FeaNCE, a clearing house between England and India . . 24, 29 
 Cessation of the coinage of silver . . . . 1, 174 
 Cernuschi's opinion that the loss of gold has been a 
 
 gain to 16, 17 
 
 Dearer metal disappearing from common use in .16 
 
 Double standard in i 24, 44, 45, 
 
 I 104, 200 
 
 Exports of the precious metals 378 
 
 Franco-German war 222 
 
 Free mintage in 25,350,351 
 
 Glutof gold in 1860 378 
 
 Interest to become bimetallic if England led the way 173-4 
 Intermediary between gold and silver-using countries 78 
 
 Legal tender in 200 
 
 Power to obtain as much gold as she requires . . 232 
 
 Premium on gold 170 
 
 Profit to, by return to old ratio with gold . . .124 
 Silver, if made legal tender up to 50 francs . .163 
 
 Single standard in 25, 91, 174 
 
 ^ee Notes, — Bank of France. Mint, — Paris. 
 Free Trade. Want of reciprocity an ai-gument against bi- 
 metallism 198 
 
 G 
 
 Gabbett. Variation in the price of silver bullion . . .84 
 Gaudin (M. M. C.) on the ratio of 15^ to 1 . . . . 105 
 Gazette (The), Market price of silver to be published in .160 
 Germany. Gold. Consequences of absorption of . . . 19, 62 
 
 Coinage of | ^^^' ^^S, 
 
 Demand for 2, 67 
 
 Ratio between gold and silver . . . 283, 376 
 
 Silver. Effect of remonetisation .... 225, 291 
 Loss by sale of . . . . . .18 
 
391 
 
 PAGJS 
 
 GiBBS (Henry Hucks), Papers by : — 
 
 " Bimetallic England." ReT^rinted from the Bullionist 267-74 
 
 " Concerning Faith in Treaties." Do. . . 237-43 
 
 " The Double Standard " 1-63 
 
 " The Gold Question and the Fall of Prices." 
 
 Reprinted from the National liexnnm 345-73 
 
 " The Price of Silver." Reprinted from the Economii<t 375-80 
 
 '' The Value of Money." „ „ Bullionist 245-9 
 
 " The Scramble for Gold." ,, „ „ 231-6 
 
 Speech at meeting of International Monetary Standard 
 
 Association, March, 1882 225-30 
 
 Letters to Lord Bramwell I • - . 
 
 341-2 
 282-4, 
 
 the Economist { 284-6, 
 
 288-92 
 
 Sir T. H. Farrer 336-7 
 
 the 'Times 143-6 
 
 Criticisms on "the Double Standard" in correspon- 
 dence between Earl Grey and Mr. H. R. Grenfell . 153-76 
 
 I 114 275 
 GiFFEN (Robei-t). Decline of prices . . . . ' \ 3^^' ' 
 
 Decrease in the production of gold . . . .372 
 
 Paper read before the Statistical Society . . . 349, 356 
 
 Single standard in France 25 
 
 Statistical information of bimetallists derived from . 202 
 
 " The Case against Bimetallism." 
 
 Reprinted from the Fortnigldly Review 75-98 
 
 Gold, Absorption of 352, 353 
 
 Between reigns of James I. and Charles II. rose in 
 
 value against silver 32 per cent 252 
 
 • AX. n \ 114, 128 
 
 coined by Germany { 224. 
 
 Consumption of, for articles of luxury. . . . 365 
 
 Convenience of 92 
 
 Cost of transmission 49 
 
 ■n 1 * i 2, 7, 212, 
 
 Demand for { 213 
 
 as influencing value 322, 369 
 
 effect on the markets of the world . . 67 
 
 in the East 281 
 
 Estimate of amount in the United Kingdom . . 365 
 
 International struggle for . . . . . 19, 231 
 
 • 1 4. 1, 1, ^ ^ • * J 188, 232, 
 
 IS always to be had at a price . . . . • ^ 233 351 
 
 legal tender in England 148, 150 
 
 Mint price in England regulated market price in 
 
 Australia 288 
 
 Not legal tender tiU 1816 139,252 
 
 Preference for 91, 92 
 
 Price of, before 1717 148 
 
 Mint 206 
 
 Production, Average annual 380 
 
 in the United States, 1877-1880 . . 4 
 
 of the world 370 
 
 IMr. Giffen on the probability of diminished 372 
 
 Mr. A. Del Mar's contention that, must 
 
 diminish ......... 363-5 
 
392 
 
 Gold — continued. 
 
 Scarcity of, an advantage to England .... 
 
 affecting trade 
 
 diminishing cost of production . 
 
 Efficiency of a high Bank rate to counteract 
 
 Stocks of the world 
 unused in India . 
 
 Source of prosperity to England 
 
 "Gold in the East." Correspondence between Mr. 
 H. R. Grenfell and Mr. C. Daniell. 
 
 Reprinted from the Economist 
 " Gold in the East." (H. R. GrenfeU.) 
 
 Reprinted from the Built onist 
 
 " The Gold Question and the Fall of Prices." (H. H. 
 
 Gibbs.) Reprinted from the National Itcvicw 
 
 GOSCHEN (Right Hon. G. J.) Appreciation of Gold 
 
 Business in countries where fluctuations in exchange 
 
 are great 
 
 Paper read before the Institute of Bankers 
 
 GovEENMENT, Action of, on value of metals as money . 
 
 Geeat Beitaix. Gold the only standard . . . . 
 
 Geenfell (H. R.), Papers by :— 
 
 " Paper or Metallic Inflation." 
 
 Reprinted from the Bullionist 
 "What is a Pound?" 
 
 Reprinted from the Nineteenth Century 
 " What is a Standard ? " Do. 
 
 " Whither would the Dearer Metal go ? " 
 
 Reprinted from the Bullianist 
 Speech at meeting of International Monetary Stan 
 
 dard Association, March, 1882 .... 
 Correspondence with Earl Grey on the double standard 
 
 Professor Bonamy Price . 
 
 Letters to the Evonumist 
 
 Times 
 
 Geeenbacks (United States) equal in value to gold 
 
 Refusal of California to receive .... 
 
 Geesham'8 Law, Operation of 
 
 Geey (Earl, KG.) Letters to Mr. H. R. GrenfeU . 
 
 The general law of the cost of production in relation 
 
 to the precious metals 
 
 Conclusions arrived at as to bimetallism 
 Gboesbeck (W. S.) Statement as to the demonetisation of 
 
 silver in the United States in 1873 . 
 Guinea. Preference f0r the coin, deteraiined the Government 
 of Georg^ I. to fix the value by law 
 
 Value fix^fti 1717 
 
 at iihfe time of the Revolution . 
 
 Weight at, 
 
 pAai: 
 
 157 
 
 81,82 
 
 157 
 
 231-2 
 
 370 
 
 66, 68, 73 
 
 352 
 
 65-74 
 
 259-65 
 
 345-73 
 348, 349, 
 360, 371 
 
 23 
 
 372 
 
 138, 139 
 140-41 
 1, 50, 148 
 
 275-80 
 
 111-29 
 197-217 
 
 259-65 
 
 219-24 
 
 153-81 
 
 294-333 
 
 65-8, 70-72 
 
 294-5, 
 
 299-300 
 
 163 
 
 91, 96 
 
 148,241, 
 
 271,328, 
 
 377, 378 
 
 153-64, 
 
 169-75, 
 
 179-80 
 
 204-5 
 212-14,275 
 
 127 
 
 ] 40-42 
 105, 
 
 148, 149 
 139 
 206 
 
 \ 
 
393 
 
 H 
 
 PAGE 
 
 Halifax (Lord). Objections to bimetallism . . . .179 
 
 Harris (Mr.) on gold monometallism 57, 82, 199 
 
 Haupt (Ottomar). Criticism on his pamphlet, "Bimetallic 
 
 England" 267-9 
 
 Hay (Sir Hector). Estimate of the world's production of 
 
 precious metals 303 
 
 Hides. Comparative prices, 1874-1882. (Table) . . . 358-9 
 
 Holland, Bimetallism in 346 
 
 Demonetisation of silver 2 
 
 Gold standard 366 
 
 Sale of silver 352, 373 
 
 Hoeton (Dana). Partial list of modem publications on the 
 
 subject of money 110,350 
 
 " How Money does its Work," Extract from. 
 
 (Professor Bonamy Price) 298 
 Hume. Influence of fluctuations in the precious metals on 
 
 the price of commodities 100 
 
 Huskisson on the abolition of small notes after the panic of 
 
 1825 175 
 
 I 
 
 Independance Belge, M. de Laveleye's article in . . 102 
 India. " A simple way out of the Indian difficulty" . .212 
 
 Council Bills 2, 3 
 
 Damage to, by fall in exchange, imaginary . . 87, 124, 137 
 by German demonetisation, exaggerated 211 
 
 Effect of the depreciation of silver on the finances of \ q-q ' 
 
 Exchanges, state of the 71,137 
 
 Bimetallism would steady . . . .87 
 
 How rate checks exports . . . . 1 24 
 
 Gold coinage, Scheme of 259 
 
 Increased imports of 7, 8 
 
 legal tender 71, 73 
 
 production small and uncertain . . . .4, 365 
 
 Secret stock of (66 69,73, 
 
 ( ^•'' 
 
 Improvement of trade 354 
 
 Mr. Clarmont Daniell's proposals. Correspondence on . 65-72 
 
 ( 211 212 
 Paper currency founded on gold j .^j..^' ' 
 
 Proposals of Indian Government at Conference, 1881 . 128 
 Protection from a general fall in prices . . . 72, 74 
 
 Result of a bimetallic law in 87 
 
 Rupee coinage, Col. Smith's proposal to restore . . 65, 71, 75 
 
 Silver absorption 8 
 
 ^ ^. - . » (67, 69, 71, 
 Cessation of coinage of I 212 
 
394 
 
 India — continued. page 
 
 Silver, Free mintage of 351 
 
 Imports of 7, 379 
 
 Largest employer of 255 
 
 shipments to Europe under a bimetallic law . 265 
 
 Stock of 137, 260 
 
 Indigo. Comparative prices, 1874-1882. (Table) . . . 358-9 
 Inteeest on National Debt, Effect of a bimetallic law on 
 
 payments of 159 
 
 Rate of, tbe weapon with, which the battle of bullion 
 
 will be fought 19 
 
 depends on the demand for and supply of 
 
 capital 248-9 
 
 if a gold currency were adopted in India . 257 
 
 Institute of Bankers. Mr. Goschen's paper . . . 372 
 
 Journal of the, Extracts from 187, 363 
 
 International Monetary Standard Association : — 
 
 Object 187 
 
 Report of meeting 219-30 
 
 " Is the Value op Gold and Silver Money Artificial ? " 
 
 Letters to the Times « 131-51 
 
 Italy, Failure of the Latin Convention as regards . . .95 
 
 Change from a paper to a metallic currency easy but 
 costly 239 
 
 Demand for gold 233 
 
 Loan to meet the cost of redeeming the forced currency 6,163, 215 
 
 J i. ij \ 232, 235, 
 
 not prepared for a gold currency ) 241 
 
 c^ , » ,, (234,285, 
 
 Stock of gold \ 35^' ' 
 
 Suspension of specie payments 366 
 
 Resumption of „ 18,168,241 
 
 Ireland, Preference for one-pound notes in .... 91,110,207 
 
 Issue of small notes to supply the place of silver coin . 126 
 
 Iron. Comparative prices, 1873-1883. (Table) . . . 358-9 
 
 Japan. Suspension of specie payments 366 
 
 Jevons (Professor Stanley) : — 
 
 Article on " Bimetallism." Reprinted from the 
 
 Contenqxyi'ary Itevicw 99-110 
 (11, 118, 
 
 " Money and the Mechanism of Exchange " . . < 249' 305' 
 
 (312' 
 
 on the fall of prices 275 
 
 Steadiness in value of money 214, 330 
 
 Variations in the precious metals measured in com- 
 modities 121,246 
 
 Jute. Comparative prices, 1874-1882. (Table) . . . 358-9 
 
395 
 
 KisCH (B.) on the ratio of value between gold and silver . 259 
 KuEEACHEE, Influence of the silver question on the traders of 2G2 
 
 Lardner (Dr. Dionysius). The " paradox " of proposing to 
 
 send steam- vessels across the Atlantic . . .273 
 
 ( 1, 17, 95, 
 Latin Union. Bimetallism < 253, 351, 
 
 ( 376, 377 
 
 Demonetisation of silver j 224^283^^' 
 
 Gold standard 118* 
 
 j 2, 7, 177, 
 
 Eatio of gold to silver } 3^|!' ^gg' 
 
 ( 330' 
 Laveleye (E. de) on the fall of prices occasioned by the de- ( 102-3. 
 
 mand for gold ] 298, 350 
 
 Reference to, in M. Ottomar Haupt's Pamphlet . . 269 
 
 Lead. Comparative prices, 1873-1883. (Table) . . . 358-9 
 
 Legal Tender. Bank notes in England and Scotland . . 200 
 
 Contention that gold was not, for payment of debts ( 139, 148, 
 
 in the reign of William III (150 
 
 Difference between legal tender coin and bullion . 70 
 Duty of Government in regard to . . . . 75, 76 
 Earl Grey on the effect of making silver unlimited j 155, 
 
 legal tender ( 170-71 
 
 Effect of making gold legal tender in India . . 71, 73 
 
 in France 163, 174 
 
 Lord Liverpool on 120 
 
 of silver dollars in the United States . . . • 5, 9, 301 
 Possible refusal to accept silver as unlimited legal 
 
 tender 95, 106 
 
 Preference for non-legal tender gold in England in (91-2, 
 
 1696 ] 140-4] 
 
 The privilege of legal tender increases the value of 
 
 the metals 299, 327 
 
 1190, 194, 
 205, 206, 
 235, 240, 
 252, 293, 
 310 
 under Mr. Clarmont Daniell's scheme . , . .321 
 
 Leneuil (Couecelle) on the French cun-ency law . .119 
 
396 
 
 PAGE 
 
 LiVEEPOOL (Lord). Application of his argument to other 
 
 nations . 14 
 
 ( 111 177 
 Basis of Ms proposal for a gold currency . . • ] ooi' 27C 
 
 Changed aspect of the monetaiy system since the ) ?oi^o'oa ' 
 
 i^y«»' ]222;2-:<"' 
 
 Conversion of silver coins into a token currency in 
 181() 252 
 
 Discussion on Ricardo's proposal of a paper currency 
 convertible into bullion 107 
 
 His system and bimetallism 871, 872 
 
 -rr. . * . ( 189-41, 
 
 History of our coinage ) 150 '1 
 
 On paper currency 12G-7 
 
 On the depreciated currency of the 17th Century . 80 
 Reasons which decided him against a double standard 8S)-90 
 Recognition of his principles by Germany . . .104 
 Treatise on the coins of the realm . . . .56 
 
 the foundation of our present system of 
 
 money 50, 113 
 
 Variations in the price of silver bullion . . .84 
 
 Want of commercial education 122 
 
 Locke. On fluctuations in the precious metals . . .82 
 
 On the double standard \ j^l*^ ' ^ ' 
 
 Recall of old silver coins under William III. . . 139, 140 
 Sense in which he used the word " money" . .13 
 State of England when he was writing . . .120 
 Violation of contracts by an alteration of the 
 
 standard 94, 115 
 
 LuzzATTi (M.) Purchase of gold by the Italian Govemment 103 
 
 M 
 
 MACLEOD (Henry D.) Letter to the 7'i77t6'* . . . .148-9 
 
 Madras, Bank of. Note issue 2<)3 
 
 Influence of silver question on Traders of . . . 2()2 
 Mallet (Sir Louis). Propositions made at the Paris Con- 
 ference 128 
 
 Mabks. (German.) Recall of five-mark pieces . . .128 
 
 Ratio of thalers to marks 134 
 
 McCuLLOCH. Cost of production determining the value of 
 
 money 204, 294 
 
 Effect of the cost of production on perishable or non- 
 perishable articles 320 
 
 Mexico, Gold as merchandise in 41 
 
 Mill (John Stuart) on a double standard . . . .10, 205 
 
 The rate of interest and the quantity of money in 
 
 circulation 248 
 
 The expressions "labour" and "cost of production" . 307,311 
 

 397 
 
 PAGE 
 
 Mint, Royal. No seignorage on standard coin . . .91 
 
 Coinage of guineas 148,200 
 
 Priceof gold fixed in 1717 . . . .148 
 
 Profit on coinage of silver 108 
 
 Paris. Coinage of gold, but not of silver . . . 200 
 
 ( 69 71 
 India. Coinage of silver . . . . • 1 q-'i ' 
 
 ^ 3r,l 
 
 Money, Abundance of, not so mucli required as stability . 22(5-7 
 
 Coined, existing at the present time .... 370 
 Consent and law, establishing the use of gold and 
 
 silver as 12, 144 
 
 International, the idea jiremature . . . .98 
 
 Is not a commodity, but a measure of commodities . 13 
 Paper. See Notes. 
 
 The action of Government gives it value . . . 138, 143 
 " What is Money 1 " (Lord Sherbrooke.) 
 
 Reprinted from the Nineteentli Century 183-9G 
 
 ]\T0NT AGU. Defective silver coinage in the reign of William III. 139 
 
 Mortgages. Effect of a bimetallic law on payments of 
 
 interest 159 
 
 N 
 
 National Debt. Effect of a bimetallic law on payments of j 136, 159, 
 interest .........( 308 
 
 National Review (The), Reprinted from : — 
 
 "The Gold Question and the Fall of Prices." . . 345-72 
 
 Xewmaech (William). Price of gold bullion in Australia 
 
 in 1851 238-91 
 
 Newton (Sir Isaac). Adoption of 2U. as the value of the] , ,ij' ,,o' 
 
 . guinea in 1717 ( HS^ 149 
 
 Limitation of the functions of silver as legal tender 151, 220 
 New York Banks. Decision not to accept silver coined 
 
 under Bland Act 90 
 
 Nineteenth Century (The), Reprinted from : — 
 
 "What is a Pound?" . . . (H. R. Grenfell) 111-29 
 "What is Money?" . . . (Lord Sherbrooke) 183-90 
 "Wliat is a Standard?" . . (H. R. Grenfell) 197-217 
 
 Notes, Bank of England. Effect of increasing the fiduciary 
 
 issue 278 
 
 Limit of silver bullion against which notes may 
 
 be issued 109, 100 
 
 Temporarily legal tender during the suspension 
 
 of cash payments 00 
 
 Bank of France, inconvertible, circulated at par with 
 
 coin in 1874 149 
 
 riOO, 101, 
 
 Proposed issue against silver . . . m i'-?' iro 
 
 ISl' 
 
398 
 
 lOTES — continued 
 
 One-pound, Proposal of an issue of 
 
 Economy of issuing paper in lieu of gold . 
 
 Lord Liverpool's letter .... 
 
 Preference for, in Scotland and Ireland . 
 
 Scotch 200 
 
 PAGE 
 
 ( 110, 175, 
 J 207, 273, 
 \ 277, 280, 
 (341,371 
 
 178 
 
 167 
 , 91, 126 
 
 One-Pound Notes. See Notes, One-Pound. 
 
 OVERSTONE (Lord) 
 
 Ornaments, Demand for gold for. See Arts. 
 
 207 
 
 "Paper or Metallic Inflation." (H. R. Grenfell.) 
 
 Reprinted from the Bulliunist 275-80 
 
 Tokens 317 
 
 Parieu (M. De) on the standard in Russia . . . .112 
 
 Paris Conferences. Year 1867 121, 221 
 
 1S78 n 10, 113, 
 
 ^"'° I 222, 229 
 
 1881 127-8 
 
 Peel (Sir Robei-t), Changed aspect of currency since the* 
 
 time of 221, 276-9 
 
 I 111 127 
 on the principle of the metallic standard . . • ) 321' ' 
 
 ( 113 129 
 on the resumption of cash payments in 1819 . . < 220' 343' 
 
 Reason assigned for permitting one-fifth of the bullion 
 
 to be silver 167 
 
 Petty (Sir William) 57 
 
 Peru, Suspension of specie payments in 366 
 
 I 223 295 
 Platinum, Cost of, relative to gold j 297' 320-22 
 
 Early sales of Australian gold speculative, as the metal 
 was believed to contain platinum . . . .291 
 
 Population. Influence of increased or decreased population 
 
 on prices ......... 355, 362 
 
 increases the quantity of gold in the personal posses- 
 sion of the people 365 
 
 increases the demand for gold 366 
 
 Portugal. Suspension of specie payments . , , .366 
 
309 
 
 PAGE 
 
 Price OF Silver (The). Letter to the Ecoywmisf. (H.H.Gibbs) 375-80 
 
 Prices, Comparative statement of, 1873-1883. (Table) . . 358-9 
 
 Fall of, pai-tly due to collapse of credit speculation . 103 
 
 Mr. Giffen on 114 
 
 cannot be attributed to ordinary trade oscil- 
 
 lations 275 
 
 produced by demands for gold for coinage . 118 
 
 of commodities affected by the scarcity of gold . .81 
 
 of silver, 1827-1880. (Table) 27 
 
 Regulation of, by currency however appreciated . 195 
 Steadiness of, under a double standard . . .10 
 Two, of either metal, under a bimetallic union . . 285-6 
 " The Gold Question and the Fall of Prices." 
 
 Reprinted from the National Bevicw 345-73 
 Price (Professor Bonamy). Letter to the Times , . . 297-9 
 Correspondence with Mr. H. R. Grenfell . . . 300-32 
 
 R 
 
 Rate of Interest. See Interest, Hate of. 
 
 Ratio, Alterations in the 47 
 
 as affected by cost of production | J^?' 2^^' 
 
 ^ 225 
 
 between gold and silver in the time of Adam Smith . 206 
 between other metals or commodities . . . .134 
 Exactness of, a matter of less importance than the { 287, 289, 
 
 principle ] 332, 376 
 
 Occasional adjustments of the. (Mr. C. DanielFs ( 304, 307, 
 
 scheme) ( 321, 332 
 
 Whatever ratio the law lays down will regulate the 
 
 prices of gold and silver 315 
 
 of 15^ to 1, Continuity of {309'^^^' 
 
 Expanding or contracting circulation . 287, 289 
 
 Fallacy of 330 
 
 has existed for a longer period than any ( 43, 101, 
 
 other ] 105, 117 
 
 M'CuUoch on the 294-5 
 
 Objection to, on the ground that it would 
 
 stimulate production of silver, examined 54 
 
 practically the ratio of the world . . 34, 134 
 
 No special virtue in, except that it has 
 
 been in actual practice .... 225 
 
 Steadiness in price of silver during period 
 
 of French bimetallism .... 377 
 
 the best ratio, as having been maintained 
 
 for nearly the whole of the present 
 
 century 117 
 
 of 18 to 1 would prohibit a return to the volume of 
 
 circulation as existing in 1873 . . 289 
 
 Professor Price on the adoption of the 
 
 bullion ratio of 316, 319 
 
400 
 
 Ratio — continued. page 
 
 of 1 8^ to 1 , Chang-e to, would be attended with difficulty 376 
 " The Ratio of Value between Gold and Silver." Letter 
 
 to the Bullioyiist, by Mr. Clarmont Daniell . . 251-8 
 " The Ratio of Value between Gold and Silver." Letters 
 
 to the Economist, by ]\Ir. H. H. Gibbs . . . 281-92 
 
 Recoinage, Expense of ,91 
 
 Revolution of 1688, Position of silver at the time of the . 139 
 RiCARDO. Proposal of a paper currency convertible only in f 111, 
 
 gold bullion . .1160-61,209 
 
 Adoption of the scheme for India . . . ,211 
 Advantage of his practical education . . . 207 
 
 Benefit of a paper currency and test of its security , 276, 278 
 His proposal discussed in Lord Liverpool's letter . 167 
 Rupee. Col. Smith's proposal to restore the rupee coinage of 
 
 India 65,66,75 
 
 Loss to the Indian Government on the , . .88 
 
 Russia, Bimetallism in , 95 
 
 The standard in 112 
 
 Suspension of specie payments 366 
 
 Salaries, Effect of depreciation on Indian . . . .87 
 
 Saltpetre. Comparative prices, 1874-1882. (Table) . , 358-9 
 
 Saratoga, Bankers' Convention at 6 
 
 Saturday Review (The) on the results of the six per cent. 
 
 rate 231-3 
 
 on bimetallism 273 
 
 Seignorage. Exemption of standard coin from seignorage 
 
 at English mint 91 
 
 under a bimetallic law 93 
 
 Seyd (Ernest). Prices of silver, 1827-1853. (Table) . . 27 
 Estimate of the production of silver, 1493-1875 . .370 
 The demonetisation of silver in Germany and the 
 
 silver discoveries in America 306, 308 
 
 Scheme of a four-shilling piece 108 
 
 Sherbrooke (Lord). "WTiat is Money?" 
 
 Reprinted from the Nineteentli Century 183-96 
 M. Ottomar Haupt on Lord Sherbrooke's denunciation 
 
 of bimetallism 267-70 
 
 on the scarcity of gold 67, 92 
 
 Shillings. Distinction between silver standard money and 
 
 token coinage 54-5 
 
 Four-shilling pieces 108, 268 
 
 Value of the British shilling a century ago . . 171-2 
 
 Weight and definition 206, 327 
 
 Sidebotham (Mr.) 211 
 
 Sedgwick (Professor). " Principles of Political Economy " . 372 
 
 SiSMONDi on the bimetallic standard in France , , . 215-16 
 
401 
 
 Silver, Appreciation of, involving a depreciation of gold 
 as a commodity 
 
 Bank of England notes, Partial payment in 
 
 Cost of transmission of, relatively to gold . 
 Demonetisation of, as affecting trade . 
 Depreciation of. Chief causes . 
 
 ^ in 1812 
 
 Discoveries of, Effect of new 
 
 in America, influencing German de 
 
 monetisation 
 
 Effect on trade of fluctuations in price of . 
 Exports to India for railway purposes . 
 
 Fall in pric3 due to German demonetisation 
 
 France, Legal tender in ... . 
 
 Stock of 
 
 Tokon coinage. Relation of five-franc 
 
 to. (Table) 
 
 Germany, Demonetisation of 
 Sales of . 
 
 Holland. Demonetisation of . 
 
 India, Absorption of 
 
 Mint, coinage of, has kept up price , 
 
 Loss to, by depreciation of 
 
 Legal tender in England in 1090 . 
 
 Legislation commencing in 177 
 
 priving silver of its character as 
 
 limited to <£ 25 in 1774 . 
 
 Proposal to permit increase of the 
 
 to £5 
 
 Market value of 
 
 More subject to depreciation than gold 
 
 Payments of, in bulk under a bimetallic law 
 
 Preference for, by half the world 
 
 Price of, years 1774-1797 .... 
 
 LS27-1880. (Table) . 
 
 at the time of Adam Smith 
 
 Production of, from 1493 to 1875. 
 Remonetisation. Effect on prices 
 Scandinavian States, Demonetisation of . 
 Stock of coin in England . . . 
 Token coinage. Necessity of recoinage 
 
 United States. Demonetisation of 
 
 Failure to force dollars into use 
 
 Production of . . . 
 
 Value of, determined by cost of production 
 
 " Is the Value of Gold and Silver Money Artificial ? 
 
 Letters to the Times 
 "The Ratio between Gold and Silver." 
 
 Letters to the Economist, by Mr, H. H. Gibbs 
 
 2 D 
 
 piece 
 
 4 de 
 
 limit 
 
 44 
 
 22, 178 
 ( 1<)0, 107, 
 \ 178, 177, 
 ( 180, 213 
 
 49 
 
 78 
 
 2 
 
 83-4 
 
 31,312 
 ( 304, 300, 
 I 308 
 
 21-2 
 
 379 
 ( 29(5, 304, 
 ( 300 
 
 103 
 
 137 
 
 ( 2. 114, 
 \ 128, 309 
 
 30, 224 
 
 2,352 
 
 255 
 
 198 
 f 23. 87, 
 I 211 
 
 91 
 
 141, 151 
 148, 200 
 
 108, 125 
 
 282 
 
 101 
 j 110, 209, 
 ( 272 
 
 48 
 
 84 
 
 27 
 
 200 
 
 370 
 
 144 
 
 2 
 
 149 
 
 35, 54 
 I 4, 112, 
 ■( 353 
 
 123 
 
 7-8 
 ( 144, 293. 
 (325 
 
 131-51 
 
 281-92 
 
402 
 
 Silver — cont inued. 
 
 "The Price of Silver." 
 
 Letter to the Economist, by Mr. H. H. Gibbs 
 
 Smith (Adam). The question of a single or double standard . 
 
 His use of tbe word " labour " as equivalent to " cost 
 
 of production " 
 
 Smith (Col.) Proposal to restore the rupee coinage of India 
 
 to a level in value with gold 
 
 Spain. Suspension of specie payments 
 
 Resumption of „ „ 
 
 Spectator (The). Comments on Mr. Goschen's speech on 
 the appreciation of gold 
 
 Statist (The). Comments on Mr. Goschen's speech on the 
 appreciation of gold 
 
 Statistical Society. Professor Jevons' paper, 1865 . 
 
 Mr. Giffen's paper, 1879 
 
 Sugar. Comparative prices, 1874-1882. (Table) . 
 
 PAGE 
 
 375-80 
 
 206, 207, 
 
 208 
 
 307, 310 
 
 G5, 71, 75 
 
 366 
 
 368 
 
 348 
 
 349, 353, 
 
 356, 360, 
 
 371 
 
 103 
 
 349 
 
 358-9 
 
 Tea. Comparative prices, 1874-1882. (Table) 
 
 Thielman (Baron de). Propositions on behalf of Geimany 
 
 Times (The), Letters to, by : — 
 
 Lord Bramwell 
 
 M. Henri Cemuschi 
 
 Sir T. H. Farrer . 
 Mr. H. H. Gibbs . 
 Mr. H. R. Grenfell 
 
 Mr. H. D. Macleod 
 
 Professor Bonamy Price 
 Tin. Comparative prices, 1874-1882. (Table) 
 Tobacco „ „ „ 
 
 Tooke's History of Prices . 
 Trade, Balance of, in favour of this country notwithstanding 
 debased currency during the 1 7th century . 
 
 Gold only leaves this country to redi-ess the 
 
 Expansion of, between 1833 and 1839 . 
 
 Foreign, only a fraction of the business of great 
 
 countries 
 
 General revival of trade would stimulate demand for 
 
 gold 
 
 Hindrance to trade by scarcity of gold 
 
 Predicted revival of 
 
 Stimulated by discovery of new mines .... 
 See Urpi'csjiion of Trade. 
 
 Treaties (Bimetallic), Risk of breach of 
 
 Turkey. Suspension of specie payments 
 
 358-9 
 128 
 
 131-8, 341 
 f 142-3, 
 i 149-50 
 
 138-142, 
 
 147,150-51 
 
 143-6 
 
 294-5, 
 
 299-300 
 
 148-9 
 
 297-9, 322 
 
 358-9 
 
 358-9 
 
 103 
 
 80 
 
 232, 236, 
 
 248 
 103 
 
 86 
 
 8 
 
 369 
 354 
 135 
 
 I 46, 238, 
 \ 240, 243 
 366 
 
403 
 
 U 
 
 PAGE 
 
 Unification OF Coinage. Advantages to be derived from , 112 
 
 United States. Bland Act, Purport of the . . . .112 
 
 Causes of ag-itation for repeal of 352 
 
 Dollars coined under provision of 353 
 
 Repeal would fui-ther contract | 168, 301, 
 
 gold supply . . . . ( 330 
 
 Coinage law and its results 4-8 
 
 Desire for foremost place in national and commercial 
 
 credit 112,124 
 
 Dollars, Weight of, under the law of 1878 . . . 4-5 
 
 coined under provision of Bland Act . . 353 
 
 Failure of attempt to force into use . . 105, 123 
 
 Double standard. Not likely alone to introduce . . 9, 352, 3G6 
 Gold, Absorption of. has been large and continuous . 7, 352 
 
 Demand for, since 1872 2 
 
 Production of . 3, 4 
 
 • Decrease in 363 
 
 standard, Large party in favour of . . .19 
 
 Greenbacks, Refusal of California to receive . . 91, 96 
 now equal in value to gold . . .163 
 
 Ratio between gold and silver ] 283 * 
 
 Silver. Certificates in circulation . . . .353 
 
 • Coinage of 352 
 
 • Disinclination to use 17,123 
 
 Production of 3-8 
 
 Standard abolished accidentally . . .127 
 
 Stock of 352 
 
 Trade revival predicted, not fulfilled .... 354 
 
 ( 299-301 
 Value, Artificial or actual, defined • < .j^o 095 
 
 Artificial greater than real 131 
 
 Change in. period during which trade suffers . .372 
 Comparative, of gold and silver changed by German 
 demonetisation 294 
 
 ( 39, 100, 
 Determined by cost of production . . . .< 144,16'.), 
 
 ( 176, 322 
 
 ( 138 149 
 supply and demand . . . . < 005' o-rn 
 
 (216 227 
 Fixity of, the advantage of a standard . . . < oqo' ' 
 
 In exchange. Gist of the question involved in . . 296, 298 
 Market, of silver 282 
 
404 
 
 ^ALVH—continveff. page 
 
 Measure of, Gold as a 11 
 
 Adam Smith on money as a . . . 207 
 
 Essentials of a 33 
 
 of a commodity limits its quantity . . . .193 
 
 of coined money HI 
 
 of gold, Variations in, affecting tlie gold price of 
 
 commodities 157 
 
 being governed by cost of production is a 
 
 question of degree . . . . . 20.") 
 
 influenced by demand 322 
 
 Intrinsic, affected by the demand for it for 
 
 ornaments 172 
 
 of metals increased by privilege of being legal tender j 299, 301. 
 
 when coined (322,325 
 
 of precious metals as measured in each other shown 
 
 by market price 289 
 
 under a bimetallic law 204 
 
 *' The Value of Money." (H. H. Gibbs.) 
 
 Reprinted from the Bulliontat 245-9 
 *' Is the Value of Gold and Silver Money Artificial? " 
 
 Letters to the Times 131-51 
 
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 Wages. 
 
 Economic meaning of the word 311 
 
 Effect of the appreciation of gold on large employers 
 of labour 357 
 
 Increase or decrease in rate of . 
 
 Influence of, on the cost of production 
 
 Position of the Indian producer in regard to 
 Wealth, Distinction between money and 
 *' What is Money 1 " (Lord Sherbrooke.) 
 
 Reprinted from the Xlnctccnth Ccntnnj 
 " What is a Pound ? " (H. R. Grenfell.) Do. 
 
 " What is a Standard ? " (H. R. Grenfell.) Do. 
 Wheat. Comparative prices, 1873-1883. (Table) . 
 
 Value determined by cost of production . 
 '•Whitheb WOULD the Dearer Metal go ? " (H. R. Grenfell.) 
 
 Reprinted from the BuUionist 
 Wool. Comparative prices, 1874-1882. (Table) . 
 
 WoLOWSKi's "Lor et I'Argent'VV^ 
 
 3fil, 373 
 157-8 
 (57-8, 2G2 
 191 
 
 183-96 
 
 111-29 
 
 197-217 
 
 358-9 
 
 G7 
 
 259-65 
 358-9 
 
 77, 78, 
 89, 91, 
 118,350 
 
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