.etter to the Right Hon- orable the ^arl of tucki - shire, ...- the Subject of qn Open to India UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AT LOS ANGELES LETTER TO THE RIGHT HONORABLE The Karl of Buckinghamshire, PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS FOR THE AFFAIRS OF INDIA, On the Subject of an OPEN TRADE TO INDIA. LONDON ; PUBLISHED BY J. M. RICHARDSON, 23, COltXHILL. - . ...... . . I / \ ffa.3 Aa?A 18IS V. # A LETTER, &c. CO b IjJ , .,,^^^M.i - CO . MY LOUD, AFTER perusing the proceedings which have taken place at the EAST INDIA ; HOUSE, respecting the Renewal of the Com- , pany's exclusive Privileges, it is utterly im- possible for any individual, who feels at all o interested in the welfare of his Country, and the preservation of its Constitution, not to experience sentiments of equal regret and surprise at the communication made to the Court of Directors, in your Lordship's Letter of 4th January, 1813, viz. that it was the in- tention of His Majesty's Ministers to transfer the Indian Trade, both Import and Export, to the Out-ports. In referring to the gracious speech of His Royal Highness the Prince A2 Regent at the opening of Parliament it ap- pears that his Royal Highness called upon the Legislature to make such an arrangement " as may best promote tlie prosperity of the " British possessions in India, and at the 1,500,000 have Bills for . . . . . J Cloathing for the Armies abroad 300,000 Exports by the Company .*. ft 500,000 By the Captains and Officers . 469,956 By the Private Traders . * , , 500,072 4,120,028 Sum that may be possibly remit- 1 CAn n/wv ted through China . . . .} 600 ' 000 tfte.- 3,620,028 If this statement be correct, even irtg that goods or bullion be sent out iii Addition to India, tlow are the returns 'frorii India to be made ? ^ince'here is the Whole of the Trade from India to Europe and America absorbed for the return that must at present be made. Your Lordship appears convinced of the necessity of the -China Trade remaining a monopoly ; and as India has contributed at times in- a degree to the China investment, and as the company has made successful efforts to widen the circle of their commerce from India to China, so -as to diminish the quantity "of bullion required in the China market ; it cannot surely be considered ex- }pediertt to weaken the credit of the Coni^ pany by withdrawing from them the Indian part of their exclusive privileges. Will it ^BOt even upon the supposition (though un- /-founded) th3t the Indian Trade has been upon the "-whole a losing one 'to the Gom- ?pty, A be hazardous to take it from them, when'tlie'Connexion of the India and China 13 Trade has rendered the whole a profitable concern. It is too true that sanguine hopes are indulged by many persons as to. the great emoluments which would arise from an open trade to India, But these individuals do not advert to the situation the Company would be in if dispossessed of their exclusive rights, If their Charter should be taken away, the Company would be a body corporate in perpetuity, and entitled to trade upon its joint Stock. The most important seats of Trade in India, viz. Calcutta, Fort St. George, Bombay, besides the island of St. Helena, belong to the Company. These possessions are their patrimonial property, and cannot be taken from them. In addition to these all the Factories ajidC.ommejrcial Establishments, both in India and the Eastern seas, un- questionably belong to them.; these posses- sions were conveyed to them hy the London Company, under parliamentary faith, and a Royal Charter : they, were permitted to build fortifications to protect their facto- ries, and they were to be allowed to carry * -- ^ on a Trade on their joint Stoc^c, though the exclusive privileges should cease. Under these circumstances it may be asked whether individuals, ignorant in every point of view of Asiatic commerce, will hazard a Trade in competition with the East India Com- pany. To use the arguments of the late Lord Melville, " It is easy for the speculator " while he merely considers the extent of " our dominions in India, and that they are " inhabited by fifty millions of our subjects, " to fancy that he will find unbounded sale remark, that whilst Ministers are receiving daily Peti- 15 " the bulk of the commodity : he has not have resided IT " dent that the exportation of European ** goods of any kind tnust be, and must ever " remain on a scale very contracted com- " pared to the population of the country, " the demand being in a great measure con^ tc fined to the small handful of Europeans, " who are either in the service of the Com- " pany or living under their protection." I have seen no arguments advanced which carry conviction with them in favor of an open Trade j and I cannot conceive any regulations can be framed, should the Trade be transferred to the Out-ports, which will secure our possessions in India from being over-run by desperate speculators from all u in India, and now act as agents, who give it as their *' general opinion that the exportation of British Goods " to India might be greatly extended. But when they " were pressed by the Committee to be more particular " they acknowledged^ THAT A FULL CONCESSION OF ALL tl THE FACILITIES THEY COULD DESIRE WOULD ONLY ct nn f -t '!' < when he knows that by proceeding direct to other parts of Europe, his gain will be sufficient, after meeting any penalty which may be inflicted upon him for such devia- tion on his return to this country (should he ever return), unless your Lordship has. been fortunate enough to discover a prin- ciple which is superior in the mind of a speculator to that of self interest. It is an unfortunate truth, that individuals are to be found in every nation ready to aid in schemes of enterprize, in direct opposition to the interests of their country ; and it is the unsuccessful result of such adventures that induces them to !MfIi^ty of acts, at the bare thought of whj^* v f&e^;Would have shuddered in the fir|tinstaace. >y . It is said thaL the,- speculations will , .,***'.-*' ', ... circumscribed by l the means which the inf - ~' '. :- . * dividuals concern e&^thereia possess. To prove that this- wiJjLjiflif b the case, it is v ^ ''j> , r only necessary jpr, me tCt^efer your Lord- ship to the grant made by Parliament the 4th of April, 1811, (51 Geo. 3, cap. 15) of six millions, to assist the credit of indivi- duals who had speculated ta such an enor- mous extent in the South American trade, the result of which it was to be hoped would have in some degree allayed that spirit ; but unfortunately it appears to have been only smothered for a time, to burst out with greater fury. Would it be credited by those who lived twenty years ago, that an indivi- dual should have had the effrontery to trade to the extent of half a million, upon a capital of twenty thousand pounds ? My Lord, this spirit of speculation, by carrying the exports to such an extent, may be of a tern- 20 porary assistance to His Majesty's Treasury,, but to any man accustomed to look a little into futurity, it must appear to be a sys- tem pregnant with the most ruinous conse- quences to the individual trader, as well as- to the country at large. These extensive speculations, in which individuals have been encouraged to embark under false prospects of gain, have created a degree of luxury which it is impossible to* contemplate without the most serious ap- prehension ; under the imaginary wealth which is calculated upon as realized, the establishments of men are encreased, the shop is given up for the warehouse, the ap- pellation of shopkeeper is despised, and that of merchant is assumed ; carriages and ecjiii- pages follow, till at last it is discovered that the speculation turns out contrary to the cherished expectations ; instead of large for- tune's being realized, great losses are sustain- ed, and the goods which have been sent out on speculation, and paid for by bills form- ing a fictitious capital, are sold (if sold at all) for half the prime cost, the inevitable con-, sequence of which is, that a succession of bankruptcies takes place : not only the , manufacturer and speculator suffer, but the actual revenue of the country is lessen- ed, for had the individual gone on in the regular course of business, he would have been looked upon as a regular contributor towards defraying the expences of the na=- tion. Such proceedings must give rise to fallacious opinions as to the actual reve- nue of the country, for as long as the spirit of speculation is encouraged, so long will the revenue of this country appa- rently flourish ; but such a system can only be compared to a rapid decline, which we endeavour to persuade ourselves will not end fatally, and we are deceived by the appearances, which grow more favorable the nearer the sufferer approaches to the last moment of his existence. It may be said, my Lord, that I have over- drawn the picture of distress attendant on the spirit of Speculation which at present 22 pervades this country ; but on a reference to the weekly Gazettes, they will be found to bear ample testimony to the truth of the coloring. " ' i>t - 1 It is said that the Trade, as now carried on, is to the total exclusion of the British merchant; surely it must have escaped re- collection that, by the Act of 1793, the Company is required to set apart three thousand tons annually, for the use of private persons, which have never been occupied to even half the extent ; and it appears from indisputable authority, that the quantity of tonnage engaged by the East India Company, for the Private Traders of the United King- dom (exclusively of that allowed to be ex- ported in the Privilege of their own captains and officers J amounted, during the last twenty years, to Sixty Thousand Tons, and that during that period, only Twenty-two Thou- sand ^Tons of every species of manufacture (including beer, and seven thousand tons of wine) have been actually engaged and shipped to India : and at this very moment, ray Lord, when, a want of. tonnage is o- loudly complained of to export British ma- nufacture, Country Ships are under the ne- cessity of returning to India without cargoes/ no individual being inclined to ship goods for which he knows too well there is not any sale in the Indian markets. **> r }3!^'i#-- ;fi:The leading arguments made use of by the Supporter of an Open Trade, are founded upon the doctrine held by Dr. Adam Smith, whose opinions on the subject of Monopoly, will always, theoretically speaking, carry great weight, but when deduced to practice will lose much of their convincing powers. He continually sets up theory against ex- perience, and possibilities against facts. Mo- nopolies are only bad when they engross a Trade to the prejudice of the community at large, and oblige them to become pur- chasers of indispensable commodities at an exorbitant rate, whereas the Monopoly, if it can be so called, (considering the ge- neral acceptation of the word) enjoyed by the East India Company j enables the inha- bitants of this kingdom to obtain every article of Indian produce at the very lowest possible rate, and of the best quality. While I am as much disposed as any other individual to receive with deference the doc- trines enforced by so able a writer as Adam Smith, I cannot shut my ears to the argu- ments of men who have been held in equal estimation for their talents and knowledge in national policy : I shall therefore quote the opinion of Wattel, referred to by Mr. Macpherson, in his Work, page 342, viz. ee Commerce is the common g^od of the " nation, all the members of which have an te equal right to it. Monopoly is therefore " in general contrary to that right. To this " rule there are nevertheless 0tne exceptions "founded upon the GENERAL INTEREST OF THE tf NATION : and in some cases " a WISE Go- *' vernintnt * may justly establish a Mono- * A wise government. His Majesty's present go. Ternment may possibly feel that they cannot lay claim to such a justification for continuing the exclusive pru vilege of the Company. 25 ** poly. There are some commercial enter- t( prizes which cannot be accomplished with- " out an armed force, and require great " capitals beyond the power of private " individuals. THER-E ARE OTHERS WHICH " WOULD SOON RUIN THE UNDERTAKERS, IF THEY " WERE NOT CONDUCTED WITH GREAT PRUDENCE " AND HARMONY OF COUNCILS, TOGETHER WITH te AN UNREMITTING PERSEVERANCE IN ESTABLISH- " ED MAXIMS AND RULES. As such branches of " Commerce cannot be carried on by indi- " viduals; Companies a"re formed under the " authority of Government, AND AS SUCH " COMPANIES CANNOT BE SUPPORTED IP OTHERS ff ARE PERMITTED TO INTERFERE IN THEIR TRADE, " IT IS ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE NATION AT LARGE fl THAT CERTAIN PRIVILEGES SHOULD BE CON- " FIRMED TO THEM." , A noble author* writing on the subject of Political (Economy, observes, that Commerce pushed to the extent to which the spirit of gpeculation would induce individuals to * Lord Kaimes. 26 carry it, would involve not only themselves but their country in inevitable ruin; it may therefore be urged with great reason, that the Indian Trade being reserved to the East India Company, not only causes a regular and ample supply of Indian produce, but is, the cause of preventing numerous in- dividuals from embarking in a trade, which cannot produce to the nation at large, much less to the persons who seek to have the India and China Trade thrown open, those advantages which are so strenuously held forth, but so delusively conceived. It is no easy matter to convince any set of men of their error, wha fancy their interests and fortunes are concerned in prosecuting a measure, no matter how absurd, when calmly contemplated; it therefore becomes an im- perative duty on those who have the power in their own hands, not to get rid of it be- fore they are convinced it will not be used in a manner detrimental to the state. At the meetings of our Manufacturing Towns, it has been Resolved, that the exclu- 27 sive privileges of the East India Company are a monopoly, and that it is for the interest of the manufacturers that the monopoly should be done away. In the words of the late Lord Melville, I would wish to ask the Projectors of such Resolutions, whether they have ex- amined what the Company has been, or Avhat it now is ? To whom do they owe the Riches which they have acquired from the Cotton Manufactures ? To the East India Company ! To whom do they owe the Riches which they have acquired from the cultivation of Indigo ? To the East India Com- pany ! To whom has Great Britain been in- debted for the great increase of its Shipping? To the East India Company ! If from other sources our industry and navigation have been encreased, the original obligation is not on that account the less, and ought not to be forgotten : some small gratitude is surely due for all these benefits. fe The representation of the grievous hard- " ships of excluding the great body of the " nation from the Trade for the benefit of " the few is very plausible, and likely to caf.ch <( Hit assent of those wlio do not bestow much fc thouglit upon the matter. Let us consider " the effect of an abolition of this hardship. " In die great body of the nation there are "Tbut very few individuals desirous of enter- " ing actively into the Trade ; therefore all fc the rest of the people, being at least " ninety-nine thousand nine hundred and " ninety-nine in one hundred thousand feel " no deprivation of which they do not de- '* sire to have. The truth is, that the abo- " lition of the Company's privileges would * f deprive them of their Rights held under " the sanction of the law; and very much " impair the property of all the proprietors " of India Stock. Neither ought it to be " forgotten that there are at all times some "Proprietors of the Stock of this envied **' monopoly who are willing to dispose of it, fe and that no person of either sex, or of (i whatever condition, age, religion or couu- " try is debarred from purchasing/' It is generally admitted that for the first 29 three or four years, the Indian Trade may be carried on at a loss, but it will ultimately prove beneficial. I may be permitted to ask, whether the Revenue of this Country is in so flourishing a state that Ministers can afford to risque a certain income of between four and five Millions in that time; and what is proposed to be done with the produce of India which shall be brought to this country, the warehouses of which are overstocked to the amount of ten Millions ? and, "dee versa, with respect to the export of British manu- factures to India, which may be bought there for prime cost? <[v;*fff y-rsy ha*; rwcl sift 1o noifmcz-sriV^ The result of an (>pen Trade will be the accumulation of difficulty and misfortune. I now come to the proposition for a transfer of the Trade to the Out-ports. The arguments already urged against opening the Trade even to the port of London, will apply with a redoubled force to this pro- position ; I shall therefore proceed, as I proposed, to point out to your Lordship the 30 ruin which will result to the rndividitnJs interested in a continuance of the East India Trade to the Port of London, should it be removed to the Out-ports. / My Lord, this is a part of the subject which calls for more consideration than has hitherto been given to it, as it not only in- volves the livelihood of a numerous body of the poorer classes of the community, but it goes to nothing short of utter ruin to the in- dividuals engaged in the following branches of Trade, as connected with the present system of conducting the Indian commerce, viz. To a most numerous body of Merchants and Traders., engaged in the India and China Trade, from the port of London, all of the highest respectability in the commercial world : To the several persons concerned, em- ployed, and interested, in the building or equipment of East India Shipping in the port of London : To the numerous class of Commanders 31 and Officers in the Naval service of the East India Company: To the Manufacturers of Long Ells, resi- dent in the counties of Cornwall., Devon, Dorset, Somerset and Gloucester, added to which are the Dyers, Setters and Calendrers, Packers, Inspectors of Woollen Goods, Press- ers and Cloth Drawers ; all employed in ihe service of the East India Company. The first class of individuals, viz. the Merchants and Traders, has sent three Pe- titions to Parliament, and each of the other classes has also petitioned the Legislature. This is a mode of expostulation to which k cannot be supposed they would have re- sorted, if the injury they anticipated by opening the Trade, were not great, indeed little less than ruinous to them. The Common Council of the Citv of Lon- 1 don, has also petitioned Parliament, and the Inhabitants of the Town of Gravesend. It may, my Lord, be considered futile, to quote some of the bodies before mentioned, but it must be allowed,, that even indivicftt* ally, they carry much respectability \vith them,. and collectively, it is impossible to point out so large a number of his Majesty's subjects more deserving of the care of the Legislature, in every point of view, than those herein enumerated ; and that indivi- dual must be a very subtle reasoner indeed, who can adduce arguments sufficiently con- vincing, to prove not only the policy, but what is more worthy of attention, the justice of injuring one part of His Majesty's sub- jects, by depriving them of a trade in which they have embarked their lives and fortunes, and from which this country has in times of distress reaped the most essential benefits, to throw it into the hands of individuals, who at the best are but speculators, indulg- ing themselves in wild theories of fancied and endless riches. * , ' ^ It is not necessary for me to point out to your Lordship, the great injury that will arise to the Merchants, by transferring the Indian Trade to the Out Ports, as I am sure 33 your Lordship must have given so important a part of the subject that consideration which it demands. I shall therefore content myself with entreating your Lordship's attention to a few observations in favor of the. other classes,' as the causes of the grievances they will suffer, cannot be so evident to your Lordship. The persons concerned in the building and equipment of East India Shipping, are Ship Builders, Shipwrights, Ship Chandlers, Mast Makers, Block and Pump Makers, Boat Builders, Ship Joiners, Ship Plumbers, Ship Painters and Glaziers, Smiths, Copper Smiths, Anchor Smiths, Rope Makers, Sail Makers, Diggers, Lightermen and Watermen. The persons carrying on the trades abovemen- tioned have long been engaged therein, 2nd have constructed and built large Docks, Manufactories and Warehouses, Storehouses and other premises, at great expence ; they have invested large Capitals, and have en- gaged numerous workmen* 34 The Establishments so formed have been encreased and carried to an extent which has tended to characterize the Port of London, in its naval establishment, as the most extensive of any in the known world. The removal of the trade to the Out Ports would conse- quently prove ruinous to the individuals whose capitals have been embarked in the formation of the said establishments. The numerous classes of workmen and artizans employed therein, have become attached by long residence to the places where the said trades have been carried on, and connected by marriage with families settled about those establishments. These poor people would be thrown out of employ- ment, and cast upon the world without the- smallest chance of finding employment at the Out Ports, where it must naturally be supposed are to be found men accustomed to the different branches of equipping and fitting out Shipping, and who are equally attached to the parts where they have long resided, and who would be naturally jealous of having their labours superseded' by nu- 35 ifce'rotis classes of artizans from the Metro- polis. Another Very important point for con- sideration presents itself in the removal of the Trade to the Out Ports ; by such an act, the country will be deprived of a resource in times of immediate danger and emer- gency, inasmuch as the building of India Shipping in the Thames, concentrates in one spot a numerous body of mechanics, who have already rendered the most essential services to the naval power of the country, and who are always capable of affording their united services at a few hours notice, in cases of any great national calamity, an object which even great sacrifices ought to be made to attain ; added to which, the large scale of India Shipping has supplied, at moments most critical to the welfare of the country, great addition to its naval strength, a resource which would be lost if the Trade were thrown open, as the Shipping v?hich would be employed at the Out Ports xvould be of so small a class, as to render 2 36 them wholly unfit to be converted into Ships of War. This statement, my Lord, of the injury which will accrue to the India shipping in- terest by a transfer of the trade to the Out Ports, will, I hope, meet with the consider- ation it merits, and I shall quote the speech of My Lord Castlereagh, in the House of Commons, on the Shipping of the Company, in May 1803. " His Lordship could not but " suggest to the consideration of the House, " that the Shipping in the service of the " East India Company was of a nature to be te at any time converted into a great ad- " dition to the National force of the Empire. -" The Ships of 1200 tons might upon any " public exigency ~be armed as Ships of the " Line ; the Ships 0/800 tons might be equally *ii i'#:-. 1,328,575 Annual Average of Imports from India to England .... 2,621,605 JD D D to America and Foreign Europe *V . . ". 1,206,839 Leaving a Balance in favour of England of 1,414,767 It therefore appears that this Trade so successfully competed by Foreigners, leaves an Annual Balance in favour of England of nearly Three Millions sterling, and that at a time when those Foreigners were able to fit out Vessels for an Indian Voyage at half the expense of a Vessel fitted out from Great Britain.* How does it appear that the Indian Trade has been obstinately denied to the people &f this country, \vhen in the last twenty years the Tonnage allotted for the use of indivi- duals, exclusively of that allowed to be ex- ported by the Company's Officers in their own Privilege,, amounted to Sixty Thousand Tons; and that during that perictd only Twenty-two Thousand Tons of every species of Manufacture have been actually engaged and Shipped to India, two-thirds of which Tonnage was occupied by wine, beer, and spirits; and it must not be forgotten that in 1S02 the Court of Directors agreed to extend the Tonnage for Private Traders to Six Thousand Tons, instead of Three Thou- sand Tons annually, or even to allow them as much as they might require, and it ap- pears from indisputable authority, that in the Twenty years abovementioned, very few of the Manufactures of this Country were exported, no application having been made * See Printed Papers, pages 229 & 230, 61 by the Manufacturers themselves or their agents, for any part of the Tonnage so al- lotted. - The promise of pecuniary participation held out in 1793, was conditional, viz. If Peace continued in India. With respect to the claims made on the Public for pecuniary assistance, the Advances from, the State oa that account do not amount to the Djsburse- ments made by the Company, on account of the several Expeditions fitted out at their expence in India, on account of the Public Service; and upon what ground of equity could the country withhold from the East India Company, that relief which they so lavishly granted to support the credit, of individual merchants, the 4th of April, 1811. The Petitioners trust that the House of Commons witt disregard any arguments, no matter how convincing, that may be urged in favour of the Company ; (I conclude this is the Petition which contains those argu- f ments which have had such weight with your Lordship and His Majesty's Ministers ), The Petitioners further state that our Naval greatness will be sacrificed by a continuance of the Trade to the East India Company; how does this agree with my Lord Castle- reagh's speech in 1803, wherein his Lordship states, that the Company's Ships of 1200 Tons are fit for Ships of the Line; their Ships of 800 Tons, for Frigates ; and their Ships of 500 Tons for Sloops of War. It is not improbable that the arguments made use of by the Petitioners, may convince, your Lordship that 400 Ton Ships, of which burthen those Ships from the Out-ports are to consist, are equally well adapted for Ships of the Line and Frigates. The MERCHANT VENTURERS OF BRISTOL come next, they assert their general right to an open Trade, they it ate that the same will tend to enlarge the means of diffusing articles of British Manufacture throughout India and the Islands and vast dominions of China and willJead to the disco-very of new Channels and unexplored Regions of Commerce, That the freedom of trading to India granted to tfo 63 United States has enabled them to supply the West India Islands to the injury of British Subjects. Here in truth, is an enlarged view of the subject, boundless Regions which are to yield countless Riches. There is to be a voyage of discovery conducted by men who possess not the smallest knowledge of the language, manners or wants of the natives, or of the commerce of India. It is said that the Americans from the privilege granted to them of trading to India have been enabled t^- supply our West India Colonies to the injury of the British Merchant. Here, my Lord, the cloven foot shews itself. The Open Traders must have the privilege of going direct to the West Indies from India, without coming to Great Britain., for if they come to England first, how can they compete with the Americans ? our Revenue cannot but flourish under such an extension ! The BRISTOL DOCK COMPANY have also petitioned; they represent that they have con- structed Docks at great Ex-pence, anticipating 6n increase of Trade, and that those, expectations 64 liave been disappointed, owing principally to the unexampled state of affairs ON THE CON- TINENT OF EUROPE, AND therefore pray that the Indian Trade may be thrown open. The claims of the Dock Companies of London for the protection of the Legislature are surely as strong as those of the Bristol Dock Company, nay stronger, for the East India Dock Company constructed their Docks specifically for India Shipping : the Bristol Dock Company in consequence of an in- crease in their Trade : these Petitioners, unlike the rest of their Brethren, candidly admit that which must be evident to the unbiassed mind of every individual, that the unexampled state of affairs on the Continent of Europe is the sole cause of the stagnation of Trade. The Commissioners of Excise it appears state in their Report already alluded to, that the paasage up the Bristol Channel furnishes great opportunities for landing poods clan- destinely, especially far the last twenty miles, and in consequence of the late alterations f the Shipping lies afloat in the midst of that City, without any other security than the locking of the Hatchways and other Communications with the Cargo, The MEfcCEtANTS OF KlXGSTON-tfPON-HuLL I shall next allude to ; their Petition con- tains arguments no doubt equally as con- vincing to your Lordship as the Petition from Bristol, being nearly similar in point of doctrine, excepting that the Town of Hull is situated on a great estuary, the Humber communicating &?/ inland Navigation with ike principal Manufacturing districts, and there- fore affording greater opportunities for smuggling. The DOCK COMPANY at KINGSTON -UPON- HULL have also petitioned, their claims cannot be considered better founded than those of the Bristol Dock Company. V X-.)ftu$t i , ' -^ vVitoiVnm-ur The Commissioners of Excise state in their Report, that the run to Hull from the Channel may perhaps he reckoned equivalent to the E 66 Navigation up the River Thames, and no Ships from the East Indies should he permitted to pass round the north of Scotland. There is great danger of smuggling within the Humler. The PETITION FROM PLYMOUTH is entirely barren of argument, and they rest their hopes upon the general assertion that the whole of His Majesty's subjects have a right to par- ticipate in the India Trade, and therefpre pray that the same may be opened. The PORTS or DOVER and PORTSMOUTH come next. It does not appear that those places have petitioned Parliament. Their gratitude to the Commissioners of the Excise for in- cluding them in so beneficial an extension ought to be sincere. The Commissioners state, that the Ships enter into Pit/mouth, Portsmouth, and Dover, immediately from the Sea, and the passage is shorter than to London, hut the security is also by Locks only and Tidesmen. 6t The PETITION FROM THE LIVERPOOL MER- CHANTS, contains as little argument as that from Plymouth. The Petition from the COR- PORATION OP LIVERPOOL states, that an ample field is now open for the investment of that capital which has hitherto been employed in other channels of Trade ; and that whilst they lament the distressing suspension of Commerce at this juncture, they cannot hut believe that the (era is now arrived when relief may be granted. These, my Lord, are the arguments of the Corporation. The LIVERPOOL DOCK COMPANY state, that by the enterprize of its inhabitants, it has raised itself from the situation of an humble fishing town to the distinguished rank and importance of the second port in the kingdom; that being licard by the Merchants at large two years ago, when the Trade was in great pros- per iti/, they obtained leave to construct larger Docks for general purposes. The Liverpool Dock Company admit that their town has been raised from the situation 2 68 of a fishing town to the distinguished rank of the second port in the kingdom ; this has been effected entirely "without the Indian Trade; surely some check ought to be given to their ambition. I confess I am at a loss to understand upon what grounds that policy is founded which has for its object the de- struction of the Capital of a kingdom to be- nefit its Out-ports ; it is like drawing the blood from the heart to support the ex- tremities. The Commissioners of Excise are said to state in their Report, that the entrance into Liverpool from the West is not of great length* and for the most part is open; BUT NOTHING CAN BE BETTER CALCULATED FOR SMUGGLING, NOTWITHSTANDING THE CARE OF TlDESMEN ON SHIP BOARD AND THE VIGILANCE OF A NIGHTLY WATCH, THAN THE DOCKS AT THIS PORT OPEN ON ALL SIDES AND SURROUNDED BY SHIPS, WARE- HOUSES., PUBLIC HOUSES AND OTHER BUILDINGS. Here then, my Lord, is a statement of the Petitions from the only ports to which your 69 Revenue Commissioners consider it safe t0 extend the open Trade; here is also a state- ment of the principal arguments made use of in those Petitions, with the few obser- vations I have been induced to make there- on ; and the opinion of the Commissioners of Excise as to the facilities which these ports afford for smuggling. It must naturally be supposed that His Majesty's Ministers will be guided by the opinions of those Commissioners who are especially appointed by His Majesty's Go- vernment to guard the revenue from any deterioration. The opinions of the Commis- sioners of Excise, already quoted,, are in direct opposition to an extension of the East India Trade to the Out Ports : and I have been given to understand that the Commissioners of the. Customs, in their Report to the Lords of the Treasury, express their cfpinions in the most decided terms against such extension, as the same would be pregnant with danger to the Revenue, ~ ' 70 and with ruin to the individuals who might \ ' be induced to embark in an extended Trade. I have now, my Lord, arrived at that part of the India question, which must, in every point of view, be considered the most im- portant. I have been led to consider the Commercial concerns of the Company, as connected with this country in the abstract; but, my Lord, I shall now look at the ques- tion in the light in which it must be viewed when brought before Parliament, viz. that of a great Political Question, involving the interests and happiness of thousands in this, country, as connected with its commerce, but affecting the whole Population of Great Britain, as connected with the preservation of our Constitution : and when considered as relating to India, involving the happiness, indeed the very existence^ of Fifty Millions, of our fellow creatures ! I confess the magni- tude of the subject alarms me ;* because I see it possible that an ill-judged policy may be it: yd * The Sum total necessary to carry on the concern of the* Company, it 51, 182,1 27. Vide Printed Papers, No. 1. p. 59. 71 the cause of demolishing a magnificent struc- ture which has existed for upwards of two centuries, supported by an honorable Body, who have at all times waived personal con- siderations for the benefit of their country. You, my Lord, in conjunction with His Majesty's Ministers, inform the Court of Directors, that you are willing to bring be- fore Parliament a proposition for the renew- al of the Company's Charter, provided the Company will give up their exclusive privi- leges of Trade ; or in other words, permit the Trade to and from India to be opened. The Court agrees that the Trade shall be opened, but that the same should be con- fined to the Port of London. This stipula- tion the Court has supported by arguments most conclusive. These arguments appear, in your Lord- ship's opinion, to have been successfully rebutted by those more cogent ones urged by the Petitioners from the Out-ports, * and * See pages 52 a 62. 72 upon these arguments your Lordship relies for the support of Parliament, in depriving the East India Company of a privilege which they refuse to surrender in the unconditional manner demanded of them ; because they consider that by so doing, they shall place themselves in that situation \vhich \vill render it utterly impossible for them to fulfil the duties Commercial and Political, devolving upon them, in a manner satisfactory to themselves and beneficial to the country. The conduct of the Court of Directors in the negociation, as far as an individual is capable of judging from the papers before the public, must be considered highly honor- able. It is such as must retort upon those persons who hope to support the cause of the Petitioners, by imputing to the Directors interested motives for the line of conduct they have pursued (viz. the preservation of their patronage), the calumnious and un- founded assertion. jf*r vf The Court of Directors frankly declares. 75 the well-grounded fears it entertains, that the affairs of India cannot be conducted with benefit to this country, if an open trade from the Out-ports be permitted; as the same must lead to an unfettered intercourse with India, and not all the regulations which may be devised will prevent colonization, and the alienation of British India from this country will close the fatal project. To strengthen the well grounded fears which are entertained respecting Coloniza- tion, I shall refer to the arguments of the favorite author of the Open traders, Adam Smith, already alluded to in this Letter : in following up his opinions on the baneful effects of Monopolies, he says, " That the " spirit of exclusive companies is unfavour- " able to the growth oT new colonies, and *' has probably been the cause of the little -= The occurrences of 1783 bear ample proof that the country then felt that the Con- stitution would have been endangered had the Minister succeeded in getting possession of the Government of India and the Patro- nage attached thereto. Is there less danger to be apprehended from such an attempt at the present moment ? nrj Mr. PITT, on the 14th January, 1784, in proposing his Bill to Parliament, said, " That " in the Sill which he proposed 1,0 move for, " he had governed himself by the ideas of the *' Proprietors of India Stock, and ty THE 76 " SENSE OF THOSE MEN WHO WERE MOST HABITU- ef ATED TO THE CONSIDERATION OF THE SUBJECT." On the 6th July, 1784, Mr. PITT said, " Government and Commerce were the two ft great objects to be looked to. THE COMMERCE " OF THE COMPANY BELONGED EXCLUSIVELY TO te THEM. THE COMMERCE THEREFORE TO AND bottoming his argument, not on vague spe~ culation but on inferences drawn from history and from authenticated accounts. Here Mr. Pitt asked whether the claims of the manu- facturers had not been listened to and provided for, and whether the exclusive privilege of the Company had not been rendered subservient to the resources of the Empire ? LORD GRENVILLE in the House of Lords ott the 3d June, 1793, said that if it were ne- cessary for him to enter at large into any general detail on the subject of our pos- sessions in India, or any speculative discussion with respect to the mode in which India ought to be governed, and in which the trade of that country ought to be carried on, it would open a very wide and extensive field indeed; but, in the present case, it did not appear to him that this was in any shape necessary, because he felt that the ground he had to. go on was very much narrowed, by having a just and well-founded experience as a guide ; a guide which was at all times perhaps the best, but more particularly so under such circumstances as existed at pre- sent. Nine years experience had proved tlic benefit of the present system and there appeared therefore no just reason why it should be altered. The present bill of course assumed for its principle the continuance of that system; but as ideas had been entertained by some, that in the hands of the East-India Company, the trade to India was confined within narrower limits than would be the case were it open to be engaged in by the whole capital and the whole spirit of enter- prise of this country ; provisions were now, for the first time, introduced into the present bill, which would give an opportunity for trying the experiment, by allowing mer- chants and traders to adventure on their own bottom under certain NECESSARY regulations* SIR PHILIP FRANCIS, in April, 1793, said in the House of Commons : " With respect tc to the Renewal of the Company's exclu^ te sive Charter to trade to India ; I have al^ rt ready said, that I do not object to it >.. te I very much question the possibility of in-" " creasing our exports to India to any material " amount, I mean with a rational security of "finding a profitable vent for them. Except " military stores, ammunition, and other im- " plements of war, with which it is not your f{ true policy to furnish the Indian princes., " the manufactures of England can hardly be " said to be saleable in India beyond the te trifling amount necessary for the consump- er tion of Europeans" LORD MELVILLE, in the House of Commons, in April, 1793, stated, as his full conviction, after mature consideration, that if the Indian Patronage should be vested and concentrated 81 immediately in the Crown, the weight of it 'would be too great in the balance of our Go- vernment, and might prove dangerous to the Constitution. * LORD MELVILLE, in his Letter to the Chair- man of the East India Company, dated the 2d of April, 1800, says " That the ostensible '*' form ofGovernment with all its consequent * c extent and detail of patronage, must remain " as it is, I am persuaded will never be called " in question by any but those who may be er disposed to sacrifice the freedom and security " of our Constitution to their own personal ** aggrandizement and ill-directed ambition* fr I remain equally satisfied as to the pro- " priety of continuing a monopoly of the My Lora Castlereagh s opinion in the de- bate on the Indian Budget, 18th July, 180C, k was as follows: ce It seemed, however., unjust ic to describe the Company's commerce as car- " ried on at a loss. To what precise "extent it tc might he profitable, after providing a liberal (< dividend to the proprietors, might be a matter " of more difficult calculation, and must, like " all commercial results, he in its nature fiuc- " tuating ; hut, in reasoning upon this branch " of the Company's affairs, the worthy Alder- " man, (Mr. Prinsep) must estahlish several . r 86 , " question (Private Trade}, to -which the wor- " thy Alderman, somewhat out of time, had " been solicitous to point the attention of the ." Committee." The authorities here mentioned, my Lord, go directly to state that the Trade and Go- vernment of India are interwoven, and ought not to be separated : and the Select Com* inittee of the House of Commons on Indian Affairs, in Julv, 1812, reports as follows, viz. * ' \ : iS'." The Committee, after declaring that they felt it a part of their duty to offer some ac- count of the nature and history of the ex- tensive establishments for the internal ad- ministration of India, " trust that such an ." account will be acceptable to the House, " not only as shewing the importance and te utility of the establishments themselves, " to the welfare and order of the country, "but. as evincing the unremitting anxiety " that has influenced the efforts of those to " whom the government of our Indian pas- " sessions has been consigned, to establish a 87 " system of administration lest calculated to " promote the confidence, and conciliate the (t feelings of the native inhabitants, not less by Rt 6 1986 Form L9-50m-4,'61(B8994s4)444