J19Z Wilberforce / Substance of the Proceedings in the House of Commons on Thursday, July 25, 1822 THE LIBRARY OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA LOS ANGELES 5^>^' :k iZ-^/s^/D"/ . gui/. 2- SUBSTANCE OF THE PROCEEDINGS IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ON THURSDAY, JULY 26, 1822, ON THB UCCASION OF TWO ADDRESSES TO HIS MAJESTY. ONE JVIOVED / BY MR. WILBERFORCE, For preventing the Extension of Slavery at the Cape of Good Hope , AND THE OTHER BY MR. WILMOT, For sending Commissioners of Inquiry to certain British Colonies. LONDON: PRINTED FOR J. HATCHARD AND SON, PICCADILLY. 1822. Price \s. 6d. Ellerlon and Henderson, Printers, Johnson's Court, Fleet Street, London. i/n LIST OF THE SPEAKERS. Mr. WiLBERFORCE pages 1, 30, and HI Mr. WiLMOT It, 34, and 4« Mr. W. Smith 17, and 46 Mr. Money 22 Dr. Phillimore 27 Mr. Buxton 27 Lord Nugent 37 Mr. Hume , 45 Mr. Marryat 45 Mr. Goulburn 45 1216764 SUBSTANCE, &!C. &c. Mr. WILBERFORCE rose, and spoke to the following effect. — Sir — It will probably be remembered, that some time ago I moved an Address to the Crown, earnestly entreating his Majesty to renew those strenuous endeavours which his Ministers had been already exerting, to prevail on several of the great powers of Europe, v.ho had solemnly stipulated that they would co-operate with us in abolishing the Slave Trade, to fulfil the sacred engagements they had contracted. My present motion may not unnaturally be deemed to be a sort of supplement to the former, or at least to arise out of it ; for it is the object of my present Address, to beseech his Majesty's Ministers to take effectual measures, without delay, for preventing, in a great colony which we have recently begun to establish, the extension of slavery, in'cir- cumstances also in which a trade in Slaves would be the infallible and no distant consequence. It can scarcely be necessary for me to suggest how strongly we are urged to forbear from every the very smallest approximation to the criminal practices, with the continuance of which we are reproaching our neighbours. And being convinced, that unless we immediately interpose to prevent it, we shall soon see a new Slave colony formed, by means equally fraudulent 2 and cruel as those which prevail on the opposite side of Africa, it becomes us not to lose an hour in taking adequate precautions against the occurrence of such an evil. It is well known, that, two or three years ago, many families migrated to the Cape of Good Hope at the public expense, to whose number fresh additions are continually mak- ing. They have chiefly settled in the two great provinces of Utenhague and Albany, at a very considerable distance from Cape Town, and where the number of old settlers possessing Slaves is very small. I well remember, when we first began our operations against the Slave Trade, our warmest oppo- nents were accustomed to say, that were we to begin anew, no one doubtless would think of commencing that traffic, ])ut, on the contrary, every one would reprobate, in the strongest terms, the very idea of instituting such a system of atrocities. The same remark may justly be applied to the state of slavery. No man, who has any sense of the value of liberty, would think of establishing a condition of society so utterly at war with the rights and happiness of our fellow- creatures. But it is one of the very chief evils of slavery, that it reduces its victims to such a state, that they cannot always be suddenly emancipated, without some risk of danger to them- selves, and to the peace of the community of which they form a part. I grant. Sir, that it is but too true, that, especially w here the Slaves greatly outnumber the Freemen, — and I may add, where the distinction between the races is of so marked a character as in the case of the White and Black population of our trans-Atlantic colonies, — a sudden emancipation of the Slaves would not only be injurious to their masters, but might probably be also ruinous to themselves. Yet I must remark, that the objections against sudden manumission ought not to be too implicitly admitted ; for we have lately had instances which would lead us to a directly opposite conclusion. During our last unhappy war with the United States, the British commander in the southern colonies of America in- vited the Slaves to join the British standard. Many accord- ingly deserted their plantations ; and as it would have been cruelty and injustice to send them back to their old masters. it became a question how lu dispose ol' tliem. It was pro- j)osed to settle several hundreds of them (seven or eight liundrcd, I think) in the island ot" Trinidad — of course, as free labourers. But the planters opposed the idea most strongly, predicting nothing but failure to the plan ; lor it was contended that no free Negro would ever work, and that of course they would support themselves by jjlunder. Sir Ralph Woodford, however, the Governor of Trinidad, with an energy, as well as a benevolence and an ability, which did him great honour, was not to be overborne l>y prejudice. Accordingly, he planted thcni in a part of the island where the experiment would be most safely made ; and I am assured that the result has proved highly favourable to his discernment ; and that these men are now earning their sub- sistence, with so much industry and good conduct, as to have put to silence all the calumnies that were at first urged against the measure. I may also adduce the instance of many of the soldiers of the disbanded regiments of Blacks, both at Sierra Leone and other places, who have become industrious and commendable labourers for their own sup- port *. Yet, for the safe and general emancipation of the Slave population of our West India islands, a previous moral preparation seems requisite : and I say this the rather, because I hesitate not frankly to avow, that this is the only excuse for our snft'ering the slavery of the West Indies to continue. Not I only, but all the chief advocates of the Abolition of the Slave Trade,— Mr. Pitt, Mr. Fox, Lord Grenville, Lord Grey, and every other, — scrupled not to • Mr. Wilberforce might also have mentioned a similar experi- ment tried on the still larger population of Columbia, where a great body of" Slaves have been emancipated, and where they are said to have conducted themselves with a dejrree of industry, and sobriety, and order, that have been highly creditable to them. The state and progress of the liberated captives at Sierra Leone, form also a case directly in point. Taken tVom the holds of Slave-ships, they have been put into immediate possession of their liberty ; and they have used it with benefit to themselves, and with advantage to the community of which they form a part. declare, from the very first, that their object was, by ame- liorating regulations, and more especially by stopping that influx of uninstracted savages, which furnished an excuse for continuing a harsh system of management, and prevented masters from looking to Iheir actual stock of Slaves for keeping up their number, to be surely though slowly advanc- ing towards the period when these unhappy beings might exchange their degraded state of slavery for that of a free and industrious peasantry. To that most interesting object, doubtless, I still look forward ; though I confess, that per- haps of late we all have been chargeable with not having paid due attention to the subject. But if, because in those great countries, which are the seats of the new British settlements, there are now a few proprietors with Slaves who were settled there before this emigration took place, we were to render slavery the lex loci, the pervading system of the whole region, we should be justly chargeable with setting on foot a state of slavery ; for the few Slaves now there bear no assignable proportion to what will hereafter become the population of this extensive district. It becomes us now, therefore, while the evil is in the bud, to prevent its swelling and gaining strength and maturity, and diffusing its baneful seeds throughout the whole land. Rather let Government endeavour to make terms with the few present proprietors, and, by grants of land, or in some way or other, prevail on them to remove from the district; or else they must be placed under some special regulations, suited to the peculiarity of their circumstances, and calculated to prevent their little stock of Slaves from extending itself, and the possession of Slaves by the few old settlers affording at once temptation and opportunity for the acquisition of Slaves by the new. It is due to his Majesty's Governmeut to state, that they have indeed adopted two expedients for guarding against the extension of Slavery ; the first, by making it a condition of the new grants of land, that no Slaves were to be em- ployed ; the second, that of establishing a registration of the Slaves. Both these expedients, however, arc utterly inadequate to the prevention of the evil. Experience shews. in other countries where government lands have been granted, and where forfeiture has been the penalty of the non-observance of certain conditions, that these conditions have soon fallen into disuse, but that the penalty has never been exacted. Such has been the case almost universally in the instance of the ceded islands in the West Indies. But the fact is so notorious that it will be at once admitted. Besides this, it must also be remembered, that the con- dition attached to these grants at the Cape of Good Hope only applies to predial, and not to domestic slavery ; where- as domestic slavery is in some particulars of a still more malignant and pernicious character. I grant, that the Slaves employed in the cultivation of land are apt to be reduced to a lower state of degradation, and, especially in the West Indies, to be treated too much on the same principles as the inferior animals. But, though the domestic Slaves occupy a higher level where they are the property of men of rank and education, yet, were the secrets of that prison-house to be opened to the view, O what scenes would be display- ed of the dreadful effects of the exercise of uncontrolled power, in low, uneducated minds I And remember, that it is domestic slavery which chiefly avenges the injuries sus- tained by its immediate victims on their masters and mis- tresses, by producing all that depravation of moral cha- racter which never fails to be generated where the institu- tion of slavery prevails. It may be justly specified as the most signal display of its depraving properties— thus constituting a striking instance of the truth of the remark, that the cor- ruption of the best things sometimes renders them the worst — that slavery can even substitute a spirit of brutal harshness and cruelty, in the place of the natural softness of the female character. Never have I taken a close survey of the effects of slavery in any community, in which several humiliating instances have not appeared of this destruction of the most delightful attribute of the fairest portion of our species. But against domestic slavery, this condition in the grants is professedly inoperative. Nor is the expedient of a registry likely to be of much more avail. When we consider the great extent of these countries ; how far tliey are from the seat, and how little they will be under the eye, of Govern- ment ; how, in every community, an esprit de corps naturally forms itself, and each man is disposed to connive at his neighbour's infractions of the laws, even if he should be acquainted with them; there would be little hope of a registry being enforced in these distant provinces — though I grate- fully acknowledge its benefits near Cape Town, in the neighbourhood of which by far the greater proportion of Slaves is to be found. But, still more, we must remember that the grand principle on which we depend for the efficacy of the registry in the case of the West Indies, does not at all apply to the colony of the Cape. The West India Planters' estates are cultivated commonly with borrowed capital ; and the mortgagee finds it necessary for his security from time to time to examine the registry of Slaves; a counter- part of which is, or ought to be, kept in this country, and all variations from time to time communicated. The mortgagee knows that if the Slaves are not duly registered his security is proportionably weakened, and therefore he sees to its enforcement. Thus it may be said to contain within it a self-executing principle. But the Cape cultiva- tion is not carried on by borrowed capital, and therefore the same security for a due observance of the registry re- gulations is not supplied. In short, both these measures are ineffectual, and utterly inadequate to the prevention of the evil to be opposed. And would we consider what an evil slavery is, we could not but feel it our duty to provide effectual preventives against its establishing itself in a new British colony. As 1 have staled in the Address, the condition of slavery would infallibly be sooii productive of the Slave Trade. Both on the land and the sea boundaries, the opportunities of making and importing Slaves exist in abundant measure. To the north of the colony, throughout the long line of its somewhat indefinite boundary, there is scattered a set of wretched and defenceless savages, who could n)ake no re- sistance ; and beyond them, recent travellers have found that there are nations in a liiglier state of civilization, but too likely to learn the lesson of preying upon the weakness of theirneighbours, and of establishing a traific in their persons. 1 grant, sir, that probably there may not as yet have been any illicit introduction of Slaves into the new settlements. Indeed, I never meant to alHrm that there had been any. But the truth is, that hitherto there has been no temptation to import Slaves ; but the temi)tation will soon exist, and then the facility with which the crime may be committed will assuredly lead to its perpetration. Again : on the marine boundary of the new settlements, there would be an easy access into the colony for Slaves from Madagascar and the Eastern Coast of Africa, and the various other markets whence Slaves have been till lately so abundantly supplied. I grant, indeed, that we have heard with pleasure of some of the chieftains of that part of the world having resolved to discontinue it. Rhadama, the principal sovereign of Mada- gascar, induced by the benevolent influence of Governor Farquhar, has solemnly stipulated never again to suffer Slaves to be carried from his dominions. But we know that the French are in the neighbourhood ; and I am grieved to say, that, wherever they are found, they almost naturally apply themselves to the prosecution of this hateful traflic. But I will not press this topic farther. Every account which I have received confirms me in the persuasion, that, were the state of slavery to be established in those countries, a great Slave Trade would soon be infallibly produced : and surely the legislature of this country would be deeply criminal, if, through our negligence, such a system should be suffered to spring up. We, whom Providence has blessed with a greater degree of true liberty (liberty regulated and protected by law) than any country ever before enjoyed since the founda- tion of the world — what a return would it be to make to the Author of all our mercies, to be employing all our superior wealth and power in marring his fair creation with such a blot as this ! We are now justly distinguished for oj)cra- tions and exertions of an opposite nature. We are engaged in diffusing the light of Divine truth throughout the earth. 8 by our Bible Societies, and by our Missionaries, whom we send to enlighten and to civilize, in the most distant countries, the victims of ignorance and depravity. What a contradic- tion would it be, if, while we are professing ourselves the servants, and diffusing the principles, of the Prince of Peace and Love, we were to be establishing a system utterly and irreconcileably at war with the rights and happiness of our fellow- creatures — in short, a system which may be justly termed one grand violation of every law. Divine and human ! Such a course would be inconsistent also with the examples, which, I rejoice to say, the representatives and officers of our Sovereign have of late afforded, of the instinctive love of liberty which animates the hearts of Britons. In Ceylon, the judicious and active benevolence of the chief judge. Sir Alexander Johnston, aided in its operation by Governor Brownrigg, laid the foundation for the entire extinction of slavery at no distant period, by prevailing on the proprie- tors to agree that all the children who should be born after a certain specified day should be freemen, being apprenticed only for a short time to the masters of their parents, in order to make good the expenses of their nurture and education. In St. Helena also, through the generous efforts of Sir Hudson Lowe, and with the kind concurrence of the East India Com- pany, a similar measure was established. And in a third instance likewise, the same blessed reformation was eff'ected by the ever-wakeful benevolence of Sir Stamford Raffles — a man of whom I will only say, that, let the field on which he has to display his superior powers be ever so extensive, he will always shew himself equal to the occasion that has called them forth. Let not our conduct in our new settlements at the Cape exhibit so shameful a contrast to the generous principles on which we have acted in these other instances. How should we make good the worst suspicions and jealousies of those who have imputed to us that our zeal for the Abolition of the Slave Trade has been prompted by self-interest, and not by a love of justice and humanity ! Justly, indeed, in that case, might those other nations retort upon us, on whom wc have been so strongly and repeatedly enforcing the oliligations which bound them, by good faith no less than by every moral prin- ciple, to abolish ihe Slave Trade ; and what lasting reproach would stain our characters, were we thus to shew, that, while pressing other nations to perform their duty, we had been so scandalously negligent of our own ! Let me earnestly conjure the House to estimate this mo- tion at its just importance. The countries which we are now beginning to settle are of vast extent ; but, still more, by imperceptible boundaries they communicate with the almost interminable regions of the African continent. And my object is, to secure, throughout that vast extent, the prevalence of true British liberty, instead of that deadly and destructive evil which would poison the whole body of the soil, and render the prodigious area one wide scene of injustice, cruelty, and misery. It would be no small aggravation of our guilt, were we to suffer slavery to establish itself, that the natives of that part of Africa, the Hottentots especially, who would but too naturally become its victims, have of late been rescued from those foul and groundless calumnies under which they so long laboured. I do not only allude to the character given of them by Mr. Long, before the Abolitionists became the advocates of the African race. Then indeed it was unre- servedly stated, that they held a sort of middle rank between the brute creation and the human species, and only a little above the oran-outang. But let any one only read the catalogue of their wrongs, as stated in the able and interest- ing work of Mr. Barrow — the account of the shamefid injustice and cruelty with which they were treated, and of their natural qualities, so opposite in all respects to those which had been imputed to them. Mr. Barrow states them to be " the most helpless, and, in their present condition, perhaps the most wretched of the human race ; — duped out of their possessions, their country, and finally out of their liberty." After speaking of the low opinion universally formed of them, he represents them to be *' naturally a mild, harmless, honest, faithful people ; kind and affection- c 10 ale to each other, and not incapable of strong attachments.'^ In particular, he speaks of " their gratitude for any favour that is done them ;" and adds, " I never found that any little act of kindness or attention was thrown away upon a Hottentot : on the contrary, I have frequently had occa- sion to remark the joy that sparkled on his countenance, whenever an opportunity occured to enable him to discharge his debt of gratitude." — Again, the prejudices of the colo- nists against these degraded beings manifested themselves when General Sir James Craig proposed to form them into a corps. It was foretold that their drunkenness, their indo- lence, their filthiness, and various other bad qualities, in- sured the failure of his attempt. But, on the contrary. Sir James observes. Never were people more contented, or more grateful for the treatment they now receive. We have " up- wards of three himdred who have been with us nine months, and it is with the opportunity of knowing them well that I venture to pronounce them an intelligent race of men: all who bear arms, exercise well, and understand immediately and perfectly whatever they are taught to perform. What is still more striking, of all the qualities that can be ascribed to a Hottentot, it will little be expected that I should expatiate on his cleanliness, and yet it is certain that at this moment our Hottentot parade would not suffer in a comparison with that of some of our regular regiments." He goes on to specify other instances, to prove their various natural and acquired good qualities, A part of my Address recommends this hitherto degraded race of men to his Majesty's special protection ; and it is the more necessary to interpose vi- gorously in their behalf, because thoy have been of late subjected to a species of ill treatment which we should scarcely have anticipated from Christian masters. If I had not received the iiitcUigence from a source of information on the authenticity of which I can implicitly rely, I should scarcely have credited, what however is an undoubted fact, that it has of late become a practice to train up these poor creatures in the Mohammedan faith ; Mohammedan priests being employed as overseers for the purpose. It is alleged 11 that the Mohammedan religion is to be preferred, for Slaves and Hottentots, to Christianity, because it gives a security against their drunkenness, and also it tends to prevent the f€male Slave from being inseparably bound to her husband, as she would be by the Christian rule of wedlock. I trust, that, both in respect to the Hottentots, and to the Slaves generally, at the Cape, particular inquiry will be made whe- ther or not the regulations enacted under the old governraen'!: for their protection and education have been duly observed. I have great reason to believe that several valuable re- gulations of this kind have fallen into disuse, and that the revival of them is enforced upon us by every consideration of justice and humanity. But surely. Sir, it cannot be necessary for me to enlarge upon the innumerable mischiefs of slavery, in a British House of Commons. I may appeal rather to that instinctive love of freedom which burns in every British bosom. It was a remark of one of our greatest painters, Sir Joshua Reynolds, that every artist of true genius had in his mind an ideal form of excellence, which all the exertions of his pencil could never fully equal, and that he should have but a low opinion of the genius of him who could do justice to his own con- ceptions. In like manner, I may state that I should deem that man's sense of the worth of liberty to be shamefully defective, which was not far superior to any eulogium which I could pronounce on it. I will only, therefore, call upon the House on this occasion to adopt a line of conduct conducive at once to their country's honour and the inter- ests of mankind. I now beg leave to move, that an humble Address be pre- sented to his Majesty, representing to his Majesty, " That this House has learned with great satisfaction that his Majesty's Government, with a just abhorrence of slavery and a provident dread of the evils which would result from its extension, has made it a condition in the grants of land which it lias recently allotted within the new settlements of the colony of the Cape of Good Hope, that no slave labour should be employed in their cultivation : Also, 12 that his Majesty has established a Registry of the Slave Population : ** That, nevertheless, from the great extent of the colony — from its contiguity to countries whence Slaves may at no distant period be easily procured — from the remoteness of many of the farms that are scattered over its surface, and from the thinness of the population, the due execution of all law^s enacted for the government of those countries, particularly those for preventing the illicit extension of slavery, must be rendered extremely difficult, more espe- cially when self-interest shall tempt powerfully to the violation of them : " That the regulation, so justly introduced into the colonial grants, applies only to predial slavery: whereas domestic slavery, while it is in itself at least as great an evil, would prove a strong temptation to the needy and indolent to procure drudges for their own use, and would operate with a still more pernicious influence on the feelings and habits of the new settlers : " That, as to the expediency of a registry, the House cannot but fear that a slave registration for so extensive a colony, comprising thousands of square miles, where the planta- tions are very thinly scattered, and divided from eaqh other by wide tracts of a desert and unpeopled country, cannot be so constituted and regulated, as materially to check, much less effectually to prevent, the fraudulent in- troduction of Slaves, where facilities exist for such intro- duction : " That it cannot be necessary for a British House of Commons, in addressing a British Sovereign, to enlarge on the evils of slavery. It is universally acknowledged to be an insti- tution essentially odious in its nature, baneful in its moral and political efi'ects, and more especially repugnant to the spirit and principles of our happy constitution : ** That the continuance of the state where it already exists is leconcileable with those principles only on the ground of necessity ; and therefore to continue it in any country where its present extent should be extremely small, and where the local circumstances should be such as to admit of its safe and convenient abrogation, would scarcely be less reproachful than the original establishment of that state in a place where it had been previously unknown ; 13 " That, in forming new settlements on the African continent, sucli conduct would be pre-eminently indefensible and mischievous, because the distinctions between the Euro- pean and Coloured races of men must tend to extinguish sympathy, wiiile the existence of the abject and igno- minious state of slavery would powerfully generate or maintain, in the minds both of the While colonists and the Coloured natives of neighbouring districts, feelings to- wards each other the reverse of those which we are bound» no less by sound policy than by every religious and moral consideration, to promote. Thus the growth of mutual good-will and civilization must be materially obstructed, to the prevention of that secure and harmonious inter- course by which important commercial benefits might be obtained on the one side, and the inestimable advantages of civil, moral, and religious improvements on the other. Instead of such happy effects of African colonization, dangerous animosities, mutual injuries, and inveterate border wars, might be expected as the natural consequences of an institution which would degrade the native race, and render them despicable in the eyes of the new settlers, while it would afford to the needy and worthless means and temptations to inflict upon them the most cruel wrongs: " That the House also sees much reason to apprehend, that the time may come when the acts for abolishing the Slave Trade may be widely and fatally contravened in the new settlements now forming in Africa, if slavery shall be permitted there as a state recognized by law : " That, under such circumstances, no effectual means can be devised for preventing abuses injurious to the best interests of the settlers themselves, pernicious to the natives of Africa, and derogatory to the honour of this country, but the extending, as far as possible, by a fundamental law, to the new African settlements, the same just and liberal principles of colonization, with such exceptions only as the Slaves actually in the colony may render necessary, which have been so honourably and beneficially establish- ed at Sierra Leone : " That we cannot but feel that many of the above conside- rations derive peculiar force from the efforts which this country has for some time been using to induce other nations to join wilh us in enforcing the Abolition of the 14 Slave Trade : That we should expose ourselves to just and merited reproach, if it could be truly alleged, that, while we had been using those endeavours, we had been violating our own principles by permitting the state of slavery to establish itsplf in regions where it had previously little or no existence, and more especially where a Slave Trade would almost inevitably follow : " That we cannot but contemplate with pleasure the honour- able and successful efforts which, under the paternal influence of his Majesty's Government, aided by the liberal spirit of the masters, have been made in various British settlements for meliorating the condition of the Slaves, and for ultimately putting an end to the state of slavery : And that we cannot but hope that his Majesty's Government will studiously avail itself of any opportuni- ties it may possess of acting in the spirit of these benig- nant precedents : *' That we also beg leave humbly, but earnestly, to recommend the state of the Hottentots to his Majesty's benevolent care — a race of men long misrepresented and vilified,who, however, have since abundantly proved that any efforts used for their moral improvement would not be employed in vain : " That we consider that the communication of Christian in*- struction to the Slaves and Hottentots, is a paramount act of duty ; and the more necessary, because eftbrts have been jnade, not without success, to propagate among them the tenets and practices of Mohammedanism: That no doubt can be entertained of the happy result of those Christian endeavours : Nor can we forbear to indulge the gratifying hope, that by the gradual diffusion of the blessings of civilization and of moral and religious knowledge through- out the coloured population, those degraded classes of our fellow-creatures may by degrees be raised from their pre- sent depressed condition, and be rendered not only use- ful members of the colonial community, but valuable sub- jects of the British empire." Mr. WILMOT (Under Secretary of State for the Colonial Department) said, he should not oppose the motion which hail just been made ; hut he could not forbear from oft'ering a few observations on the speech which introduced it, as hg 15 felt that he Could not give an unqualified assent to all the incidental remarks of the honourable mover. Tliat honour- able gentleman had assumed in his argument, that tlie co- lony at the Cape, and especially the newly settled part of it, might become a great mart for Slaves. Now he thought that such an apprehension was wholly unfounded; and he firmly believed that the condition annexed to all new grants of land, that it should not be cultivated by Slaves, had in no one instance been violated. Perhaps it would be a satisfaction to the honourable mover to know what was precisely the Slave population of the districts in which the new settlements had been formed. The whole of the Slaves, at present ex- isting in these districts, amounted to 54G males and 4G4 females. The House, however, would recollect that the districts in question were not to be considered as a new co- lony, but were part of an old and long-settled colony, through- out which the same laws and institutions prevailed : it would be found difficult, therefore, to establish distinctions which would be available in practice, or to depart at once from the laws and usages which had previously existed. He certainly should be very ready, at the same time, to encourage the manu- mission of the Slaves, by holding out some equivalent to the master; but he thought it would be most impolitic, even in offering a fair equivalent, to make manumission compulsory on the owners of Slaves. However much he deplored the evils of slavery, and no man could deplore them more sin- cerely, he thought that any thing like a sudden and general manumission would be ruinous, not only to the master, but to the parties it was intends! to benefit, who, from the habits produced by the very condition of slavery, were, to a con- siderable degree, disqualified from exerting that energy and forethought which were necessary to make their freedom of value to them. However desirable, therefore, it might be to put them in possession of their freedom, the house would pause before it adopted that course. He was disposed, how- ever, to consider predial slavery as far more injurious than do- mestic slavery ; although he fully agreed in all that had fallen from the honourable mover respecting the pernicious effects 16 of the latter, both on the master and on the slave. It waa the very reverse of mercy, which was twice blessed ; for this institution was twice cursed, cursing hira who inflicted and him who bore it. Yet it ought to be remembered, the evil was not of our creation, and he was persuaded that the remedy for it, to be safe, must be gradual. With respect to the clandestine importation of Slaves from the interior, he believed there was no just ground for supposing it would occur : he had not heard of a single instance of the kind ; and as for importations, there seemed to be no proba- bility of their taking place. The natural difficulties of the coast were such as seemed to present insuperable impedi- ments, and to form a rational security against any such attempt. There was a high surf which beat upon the shore, and there were no navigable rivers ; so that, independently of the vigilant measures adopted by the Government to pre- vent the Slave Trade, it seemed scarcely possible to smuggle Slaves on shore. With respect to the Hottentots and other natives, their freedom was completely secured to them, being recognized by the laws ; nor did there seem the least reason to appre- hend any attempts on their liberty. In the propriety of giving moral and religious instruction to them and to the Slaves, he most fully concurred. The subject had not been overlooked by his Majesty's Government, and it was its wish to aflford every facility to the improvement not only of the bodily comforts, but of the moral attainments, of the Hottentots and Slaves in this colony ; and this object had been more especially kept in view with respect to the Slaves immediately under its own controul. In short, his Ma- jesty's Ministers were determined to do all in their power to promote the objects which the Address had in view ; and as a commission was about to be sent out to examine into various matters connected with the civil and judicial admi- nistration of the colony, it would be an instruction to the Commissioners to inquire into the state of the Slave popu- lation, as well as to ascertain whether or not any clandestine importation of Slaves had taken place.— In conclusion, he 17 observed, that he cordially concurred in every seatimeut of the Address, which went to the limitation and repression of slavery, so far as it could be made consistent with the rights of property, as they were now unfortunately establish- ed. They ought not, however, in considering the wrongs of slavery, to lose sight of the rights of property. With this qualification, bis Majesty's Ministers were ready to do their utmost to promote the common object of putting dn end to slavery. Mr. WILLIAM SMITH expressed his surprise that the honourable gentleman (Mr. Wilmot), while he admitted fully that it was our duty to prohibit slavery in all new colonies, yet should attempt to raise a distinction between the case of such colonies in general, and that of the new settlements now forming in Africa, merely on the ground that these were only ** part of an old colony." Where no previous grants existed, it was plain that no private claims could be set up in bar of the indisputable right which Great Britain possessed, as the sovereign and owner of the soil, to prescribe the terms on which lands should be held. We had therefore a clear right, and it was no less clearly our bounden duty, to prohibit the very existence of slavery, whether predial or domestic, within the territory allotted to the new settlers. And even supposing some few grants to have been previously made, the difiicullies in the way of such a prohibition did not appear to him to be rendered by that circumstance so formidable, or so hard to be overcome, as they did to the honourable gentleman. His own attention had long been earnestly directed to sub- jects like that which they were now considering ; and he must confess that so much magnitude and importance had the evils resulting from slavery acquired in his eyes, that he could not allow himself to regard as insuperable any obstacles which might be alleged to stand in the way of the prohibition of that wretched and opprobrious state of society. Was it not possible, for instance, in this case, evea if no better mode could be devised, to divide the new D 18 settlements from the old by a geographical limit, on the eastern side of which liberty should be completely tb« lex loci ? And if a few insulated farms should be found existing within this space, as exceptions to the general rule, could no expedients be devised for making arrange- ments with the owners, which should equitably satisfy any claims they might have acquired? For his part, he con- ceived that no difficulty, no pretext or excuse whatever, should be permitted to stand in the way of accomplishing so great a good. He would say a few words, however, on the nature of the claims pleaded for. Now he must declare, and he did so without the smallest hesitation, that all claims which were set up against the universal and inalienable rights of human nature (rights which, though they could not be denied, we were, he was sorry to say, often but too tardy to concede in practice) were in his eyes less than nothing. And such he conceived to be the pretended claim of property in the persons of our fellow-creatures. Would any man, he asked, now be bold enough to contend that one man had, or could have, an unqualified property in the person of another? He might, indeed, acquire some claims on his labour; but farther than was necessary for the reasonable enforcement of these, he could possess no right in his per- son. The unqualified power over the Negro Slaves formerly contended for, necessarily vanished as soon as it was allow- ed that Negroes were men. Would the boldest assertor of the rights of masters venture now to advance the same insolent and absurd pretensions on this subject to which our ears were accustomed in the earlier days of this con- troversy ? Would it now be alleged, for example, that one man could possess a right to murder or to mutilate another? The very contrary was proved by the laws which had been passed on the subject. The power, then, which the master possessed, whatever it was, was a qualified power; a power to be restrained and regulated by law ; and certainly, in his opinion, no claim could be founded upon it for the per- petuation of slavery ; nor could any plea be drawn from it 19 ^hich should be permitted to operate as a bar to all safe and pru<