i^o. .r « ■J ipiWNiitOT|i DR. CHINIQUY TO SENATOR TASSE. A TERRIBLE RESPONSE. To the Editor of the " Witness." Sir, — I have addressed to the Minerve a reply to its slanderous attacks upon me. That paper refuses me the justice to publish my vindication. I then demand of you that you, who have repeated these slanders to the world, will not refuse me the justice to publish my reply. C. CHINIOUY. To the Editor of the '' Minervey Sir, — You expect, no doubt, that I will not let your article against me, in your issue of yesterday, be left unanswered and you will be satisfied. You cannot find words vile enough to express your contempt for my priestly life. Well, I must confess before God and man, to-day again, what I have confessed a thousand times before the disciples of the Gospel, not only on this continent of America, but all over Great Britain and in the Australian colonies, that, during twenty-five years, I was a priest of anti-christ, when it had been my intention and the ardent desire of my heart to be the. priest of Christ. I had to learn by heart the infamous questions which the Church of Rome forces every priest to learn by heart. I was, in conscience, as all your priests are, bound to put into the ears, the mind, the imagination, the heart and the souls of females, questions of such nature, the immediate and direct 2 tendency of which is to fill the minds, the memory and the hearts of both priests and penitent with thoughts, phantoms and tempta- tions of such a degrading nature that there are no words adequate to express them. ■ ' • Pagan antiquity has never known any institution more polluting of the soul and body than the Roman Catholic auricular confession. No, there is nothing under heaven moro corrupting than the law which forces a female to tell her thoughts, desires, and most secret feelings and actions to a bachelor, an unmarried man. Let him be called priest or monk, it makes no difference. Your priests may deny that before you ; they will never dare to deny it before me. Now, my dear sir, if you look upon me as a degraded priest, because my heart, my soul, my mind, as those of all your priests, were plunged into those bottomless waters of iniquity which flow from the confessional, I confess guilty. I was polluted, and I was polluting the souls of my female penitents just as every priest has to do every day. It has required the whole blood of the great victim, who died on Calvary, for you and for me, and for all the S'nners, to purify me. And I pray that you and all your priests who are required to live in the same pestilential atmosphere may be purified through the same blood. But now that, by the great mercy of God, I have been taken away from the ways of perdition in which Ron-.e was forcing me to walk v/ith all her priests, I have no fear to be confronted with you or any of my other small or big slanderers. Many times, since that, I have challenged my bitterest enemies to find anything in my life for which an honest man must blush. Without any boasting, I can say that there has never been any priest in Canada so constantly cherished, honored and respected by the priests, the bishops and the people as I was. It is a public fact that I was brought in triumph from one parish to the other from the remotest part of lower Canada to the shores of Lake Huron. There is not a great city, not a small town, not a cathedral in the province of Quebec or Ontario, to which the bishops have not 3 invited me to address the people ; and the churches, even your immense Notre Dame Chureh, of Montreal, were never large enough to receive the people who wanted to hear me. I do not say those things in boasting, but only to show to you and your readers how our dear countrymen, people, priests, and bishops, were kind tome. ■ ■■ ■ ' The power given to me to hear the confessions and to preach everywhere were greater than those given to any other priest. In 1850, after I had been a priest seventeen years, two years after I had left my parish of Kamouraska, in order to establish the tem- perance society all over Canada, when my bishop of Quebec, the Right Rev. Baillargeon, went to Rome, he came to meet me in Longueuil and requested me to address a letter with my book on temperance to the Pope, through him, that he might present it himself to the sovereign pontiff — and when he had presented it he wrote me a letter, which is still in my hand, and which I will be much pleased to show you, if you desire to see it. In this letter my bishop tells me these very words : Rome, Aug. 10, 1850. Sir and Dear Friend, — It is orily this i oth that it has been given me to have a private audience with the Sovereign Pontiff. I have taken that opportunity to present to him your book, with your letter, which he has received, I do not say with that goodness which is so eminently characteristic, but with all special marks of satisfaction and of epprobation, while charging me to state to you that he accords his apostolic benediction to you, and to the holy work of temperance which you preach. I esteem myself happy to have had to offer, on ydr behalf, to the Vicar of Christ, a book which, after it had done so much good to my countrymen, has been able to draw from his venerable mouth such solemn words of approbation of the temperance society, and of blessing on those who are its apostles ; and it is also, for my heart, a very sweet pleasure to transmit them to you. Your friend, CHARLES T. BAILLARGEON. Do you really believe that such things could have occurred from my bishop if, as my slanderers say, to-day, my previous conduct had been that of a vile man when I left my dear parish of 4 Kamouraska, in order to spread the principles of temperance all over Canada. Then, that bishop would have been the vilest of men. But you will ask me, with many of my other slanderers ; * Have you not been iuterdicted in 1851 by the Bishop of Montreal, a few days before you left Canada for the United States ? * I will tell you, yes, sir ; the Bishop of Montreal pretended to have suspended me then. But I will give it to you to judge if that fact is not one of the most glorious of my life, and one for which I must bless God for ever. For my integrity has never been more clearly shown than in that circumstance. That sham interdict, which was a nullity by itself — for its want of form, of justice and of foundation, had been kept by the Bishop, and for good reasons, a secret in Canada as well as in the United States. By his immediate and subsequent acts the Bishop had given me the evidences that he was regretting his error, and was trying to repair it and make me forget it. But not long after I left the Church, to my surprise, the Bishop of Montreal said that he had interdicted me, and that he was inviting me to publish the reasons of my interdict. It was the best opportunity that the providence of God had offered me to prove my innocence and the incredible excess of folly and tyranny of this Bishop of Rome. Without delay, I accepted the challenge, and published through the French-Canadian press the following letter, which forever confounded the poor Bishop. He has never been able to reply, though it was so important for his honor, and the interests of his Church, that he should have replied to i^ : „ ,, . _ St. Anne, April i8th, 1857. To Monsetgnor Bourget. My Lord, — In your letter of the 19th March you assure the public that you have interdicted me, a few days before my leaving Canada for the United States, and you invite me to give the reasons of that sentence. I will satisfy you. On the 28th September, 1851, i found a letter on my table from you, telling me that you had suspended me from my ecclesiastical offices, on account of a great crime that I had committed, and of which I was accused. But the name of the accuser was not given, nor the nature of the crime. I immediately went to see you, and protest- ing my innocence. I requested you to give me the name of my accusers, and to allow me to be confronted by them, promising that I would prove my innocence. You refused to grant my request. Then I fell on my knees, and with tears, in the name of God, I requested you again to grant me to meet my accusers and prove my innocence. You remained deaf to my prayer and unmoved by my tears ; you repulsed me with malice and airs of tyranny which I had thought impossible in you. During the twenty-four hours after this, sentiments of an inexpressible wrath crossed my mind. I tell it to you frankly, in that terrible hour, I would have preferred to be at the feet of a heathen priest, whose knife would have slaughtered me on his altar3 to appease his infernal gods, rather than be at the feet of a man who, in the name of Jesus Christ, and under the mask of the gospel, should dare to commit such a cruel act. You had taken away my honor — you had destroyed me with the most infamous calumny — and you had refused me every means of justification. You had taken under your protection the cowards who were stabbing me in the dark ! Though it is hard to repeat it, I must tell it here publicly : I cursed you in that horrible day ! With a broken heart, I went to the Jesuit College, and I showed the wouuds of my bleeding soul to the noble friend who was generally my confessor, the Rev. Father Schneider, the Director of the College. ■ ' . " After three days, having providentially got some reasons to suspect who was the author of my destruction, I sent some one to ask her to come to the College without mentioning my name. When she was in the parlor, I said to Father Schneider : ' ^'ou know the horrible iniquity of the Bishop against me — with rhe lying words of a prostitute he has destroyed me ; but please come and be the witness of my innocence.' When in the presence of that unfortunate woman, I told her : ' You are in the presence of God Almighty and two of his priests. They will be the witnesses of what you say ! Speak the truth. Say in the presence of God and of this venerable priest, if I have ever been guilty of what you have accused me to the bishop.' At these words, the unfortunate woman burst into tears ; she concealed her face in her hands, and with a voice half suffocated with her sobs, she answered ; ' No, sir, you are not guilty of that sin ! ' 6 • Confess here another truth,' I said to her, ' Is it not true that you had come to confess to me more with the desire to tempt me than to reconcile yourself to God ? ' She said, ' Yes, sir, that is the truth.' Then I said again, ' Continue to say the truth, and I will forgive you,' and God also will forgive your iniquity. Is it not through revenge for having failed in your criminal design, that you have tried to destroy me by that accusation to the Bishop ? ' ' Yes, sir, it is the only reason which has induced me to accuse you falsely.' And all what I say here, at least in srbstance, has been heard, written and signed by the Right Rev. Father Schneider, one of your priests, and the director of the Jesuit College. That venerable priest is still living in Montreal ; let the people of Canada go and interrogate him. Let the people of Canada also go to the Rev. Mr. Brassard, who had also in his hands an authenticated copy of that declaration. Your Lordship gives to understand that I was disgraced by that sentence, some days after when I left Canada for Illinois. Allow me to give my reasons for differing from you in this matter. There is a canon law of the Church v/hich says ; ' If a censure is unjust and unfounded, let the man against whom the sentence has been passed pay no attention to it. For, before God and his Church, no unjust sentence can bring any injury to any one. Let the one against whom such unfounded and unjust judgment has been pronounced even take no step to annul it, for it is a nullity by itself.' You know very well that the sentence you have passed against me was null and void for many good reasons ; that it was founded on a false testimony. Father Schneider is there ready to prove it to you, if you have any doubts. The second reason I have to believe that you had yourself considered your sentence a nullity, and that I was not suspended by if from my ecclesiastical dignity and honors, is founded on a good testimony, I hope, — the testimony of your Lordship himself. A few hours before my leaving Canada for the United States, I went to ask your benediction, which you gave me with every mark of kindness. I then asked your Lordship to tell me frankly if I had to leave with the impression that I was disgraced in your mind ? You gave the assurance of the contrary. Then I told you that I wanted to have a public and irrefutable testimony of your esteem. You answered that you would be happy to give me one, and you said, ' What do you want ?* '1 wish,' I said, ' to have a chalice from your hands to offer the holy sacrifice of the mass the rest of my life ' You answered, ' I will do that with pleasure,' and you gave orders to one of your priests to bring you a chalice that you might give it to me. But that priest had not the key of the box containing the sacred vases ; that key was in the hands of another priest, who was absent for a few hours. I had not the time to wait, the hour of the departure of the train had come ; I told you : ' Please my lord, send that chalice to the Rev. Mr, Brassard, of Longueuil, who will forward it to me in a few d^ys to Chicago.* And the next day, one of your secretaries went to the Rev. Mr. Brassard, gave him the chalice you had promised me, which is still in my hands. And the Rev. Mr, Brassard is there still living, to be the witness of what I say — and to bring that fact to your memory if you have forgotten it. Well, my lord, I do believe that a Bishop will never give a chalice to a priest to say mass when he knows that that priest is interdicted. And the best proof that you know very well that I was not interdicted by your rash and unjust sentence is, that you gave me that chalice as a token of your esteem and of my honesty, etc. Respectfully, J C. CHINIQUY. Ten thousand copies of this terrible exposure of the depravity of the Bishop were published in Montreal ! I had asked the whole people of Canada to go to the Rev. Mr. Schneider, and to the Rev. Mr, Brassard to know the truth. The Bishop remained confounded. It was proved that he had committed against me a most outrageous act of tyranny and perfidy ; and that I was per- fectly innocent and honest, and that he knew it, in the very hour that he tried to destroy my character, sending this wicked woman to corrupt me. Probably the Bishop of Montreal had destroyed the copy of the declaration of the poor girl he had employed ; and think'ng that this was the only copy which I had taken of her declaration of my innocence and honesty, he thought he could speak of the so-called interdict, after I was a Protestant. But in that he was cruelly mistaken. By the great mercy of God, three other authenticated copies had been kept, one by the Rev. Mr. Schneider himself, another by the Rev. Mr, Brassard, and another by one whom it is not necessary to mention — and then he had no suspicion that the ■; '' , 8 revelation of his unchristian conduct, and of his determination to destroy me with the false oath of a prostitute, were in the hands of too many people to be denied. The Bishop of Chicago, whom I met a few days after, told me what I was well aware of before : ' that such a sentence was a perfect nullity in every way, and that it was a disgrace only for those who are blind enough to trample under their feet the laws of God and men to satisfy their bad passions.' And no doubt you will be of the same mind, if you are an honest man. But to show you that the. Bishop of Montreal himself never thought that his unjust sentence had any effect, and that he him- self never lost his good opinion of me, I also publish for your perusal the letter he gave me the day that I left Canada. These are his words : — October 13th, 1851. I cannot but thank you for what you have done in our midst, and in my gratitude towards you I wish you the most abundant benedictions of heaven. Every day of my life I will remember you. You will always be in my heart, and I hope that in some future day the Providence of God will give me some opportunity of showing to you all the gratitude I feel for you. t IGNACE, Bishop of Montreal. I ask you. Will ever a bishop say to a priest, in a written document, signed with his own hands, ' I cannot but thank you for what you have done in our midst ' — if that priest has been an immoral, a bad priest } Does not the Bishop who writes such words acknowledge that he was wrong in his previous hasty and unfavorable judgment ? Would the intelligent editor of the Minerve, if he were the Bishop of Montreal, write to a priest, ' I cannot but thank you for what you have done in our midst. In my gratitude towards you I pray God to pour his most abundant blessings upon you,' if he knew that that priest is an immoral and wicked man. No, never ; nor will you give a chalice to an interdicted priest to say mass the rest of his life. Is it so that, as long as a priest is in your midst, he may be the most depraved man, a public scandal, a murderer of souls, yet the Bishop will like him, honor him, and overload him with every kind of public and private marks of respect. But when he leaves them to become a Protestant, then they pour out on him their scorn and abuse ! By their own confession have they not done this to me ? If I was an immoral man when a priest of Rome, how is it that the bishops have known it only after I had left their church ? And if I were an immoral man when in their midst, why i? it that the bishops from the beginning to the end of my career, gave me so many public and private marks of esteem and respect ? If they had done so, are they not confessedly worse than what they call me ? In 1838 the Bishop of Quebec gave me the important parish of Beauport. In 1842 he placed me at the head of a ^till more important parish of Kamouraska, In 1849 t^^s Bishop of Montreal, in a public document, puts me in the most exalted position that a priest has ever got, he calls me ' the Apostle of Temperance of Canada,' and one of his best priests. The same year he induces the Pope to send me a magnificent crucifix. In 1850 he invites the people of Montreal from his pulpit, in his cathedral, to come with the Hon. Judge Mondelet, to present me a gold medal, as a public token of his respect and gratitude for me. In 1851 — the day that I left Canada — he writes me that what I have done in^his diocese, when working under his eyes, has filled him with gratitude ! And the same man, after I had left the Church of Rome, says that I was an immoral priest — an interdicted and suspended priest ! — and that, on the testimony of a prostitute, who afterwards declared that she had made a false oath to revenge herself, because she had not been able to persuade me to commit a crime with her ' If what I declare of the infamous conduct of the Bishop had not been correct, and if the recantation of that unfortunate female, in the presence of the Rev. Father Schneider, had not been correct also, how easy it would have been for the Bishop to confound me forever, by bringing that superior of the Jesuit College as a wi'.ness of my imposture 1 And how it would have been an imperative duty 10 in Father Schneider, when he saw his name publicly and in the public press committed with a fact so degrading to the Bishop, to come forward and publish that what I had said was forgery 1 Then Chiniquy would have been for ever and so easily confounded. But such has not been the case. The poor Bishop had to pay publicly for his infamous conduct towards me, and he was left without any means of escape. If you are honest, it is not on Chiniquy that you will turn your scorn ; it is on the man who, forgetting all the laws of justice, of God and men, had united his efforts to those of a perjured prostitute, to destroy his innocent victim. And if you are not honest enough to see and understand this, what have I to care about your scorn ? Now let us say another word about the other interdict by Bishop O'Regan. And I tell you boldly, that if anything can be con- side'-ed an honor by any man, it is to have deserved the wrath of so publicly depraved a man. Though he never interdicted me (he only threatened to do it) he found fit to publish that he had done it. But in his letter of Nov. 20, 1856, where he publicly gives the reasons of that so-called sentence, he somewhat deranges the plan you have, my dear sir, to make people believe that it ^ "as on account of immorality. In that letter the Bishop says : ' His obstinate want of submission — his excessively violent language and conduct — obliges me to suspend him ! ' I thank and bless God who gave me the strength to say some great truths to that most immoral and tyrannical bishop. He was such a wicked man that several priests, among whom I was one, wrote to the Pope about his bad conduct ; and the Archbishop of St. Louis, and many other bishops, having brought also seriou^ complaints against that man, his diocese was taken away from his hands, and he got a bishopric in • partibus infidelium,' which, you know very well, means a bishopric in the moon — and the place was just fit for the man. The sentence was never served