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 HOaSE OF ASSEMBLY, 
 
 Thursday J January 20, 1831. 
 
 Ml'. Morris gives notice that he will move, to-morrow, for an 
 Address to His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, requesting His 
 Excellency to lay before this House, copies of all documents, which 
 have been received from His Majesty's Government, authorising the 
 survey, reservation and sale, of certain townships of land, called 
 School Townships* 
 
 Friday i January 21, 1831. 
 
 A<*reeably to notice, Mr. Morris, seconded by Mr. A. Eraser, 
 moves that an Address be presented to His Excel'-jncy the Lieutenant 
 Governor, praying that His Excellency may be pleased to lay before 
 this House copies of such documents as may at any time have been 
 received from His Majesty^s Government, authorising the survey, 
 reservation, sale and appropriation of certain townships called School 
 Townships* 
 
 Ordered. 
 
 Mr. Morris, seconded by Mr. A. Eraser, moves that Messrs. 
 McMartin and Clarke be a Committee to draft and report the saif* 
 Address. 
 
 Ordered. 
 
 Mr. McMARttN, from the Committee appointed to draft an Ad- 
 dress to His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor for documents rela- 
 
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live to School Reserve Townships, reported a draft, which was 
 received and read twice, adopted, and ordered to be engrossed and 
 read a third time this day. 
 
 Agreeably to the order of tlie day, the Address to His Excellency 
 4br information relative to lands reserved for school purposes, was 
 read the third time, passed and signed, and is as follows:— ~ 
 
 To His Excellency Sir Jqhn Colbornf*, Knight Com- 
 mander of the Most Honorable Military Order of the 
 Bathj Lieutenant Governor of the Province of Upper 
 Canada, Major General Commanding His Majesty's 
 Forces therein, &c. &c. &c. 
 
 Mat it please Yqur Excellency, 
 
 We, His Majesty's dutiful and loyal subjects, the Commons of 
 Upper Canada, in Provincial Parliament assembled, most respectfully 
 request that Your Excellency may be pleased to communicate to this 
 House, copies of all suob documents as Your Excellency may be pos- 
 sessed of, which authorise the survey, reservation^ sale or appropria- 
 tion of certain lands in ihh Province, called School Townslups. 
 
 ARCHD. McLE/N, 
 
 Speaker, 
 
 Commons House of Assemhli/y 
 
 21 5^ day of January y 183K 
 
 Mr. A. Eraser, seconded by Mr. Clarke, moves that Messrs. 
 Morris and McMartin be a Committee to wait on His Excellency 
 the Lieutenant Governor, to know when he will be pleased to receive 
 the Address of this House on the subject of School Townships j and 
 to present the same. 
 
 Ordered. 
 
 Monday, 2ith January, 183 L 
 
 Mr. Morris, from the Committee to wait on His Excellency the 
 Lieutenant Governor with the Address of this House relative to 
 
School Townships, reported delivering the same, and that His Excel- 
 lenry hnd been pleared to make the following answer i—^ 
 
 The docufnenls required In this Address shftll be laid before the 
 House of Assembly^ 
 
 Wednesday^ February ^d^ 1S31. 
 J. Ct>t')iOttNlS« 
 
 The Lieutenant Governor transmits to A\6 House of Assembly, 
 copies of authorities for reserving the School To\vnships, and also such 
 documents as Will aflbrd information to the House respecting the mea- 
 sures which have been proposed to secure endowments for the District 
 and for Township Schools. 
 
 Government Hou^l^ 
 2d February i 1831. 
 
 Extract of a Dispatch front the thike of Portland to Ma 
 President Rus^ell^ dated WhUehall^ 4th November^ 1797. 
 
 ** His Majesty has lakett Into His Royal Conskleratiftn the pelitioft 
 of the Legislative Council and House of Asserfibly, humbly ihiploring 
 * His Majesty that he Would be graciously pleased to direct His Go'- 
 vernment in this Province to appropriate acertainportionof the waste 
 lands of the Crown as a fund for the establishment and support of a 
 respectable Grammar School in each district thereof, and Also of a 
 College or University for the instruction of youth in the different 
 branches of liberal knowledge, * and being always ready to shew his 
 parental regard for the welfare of his subjects in the furtherance of so 
 important ah object as the instruction of youth, and to assist and 
 encourage the exertions of his province in laying the foundation for 
 promoting sound learning and a religious education, he has conde- 
 scended to express his most gracious intention to comply with the 
 wishes of the Legislature of his Province of Upper Canr.da in such 
 manner as shall be judged to be most effectual. 
 
 First, by the establishment of Free Grammar Schools in those 
 districts in which they are called furj and in due process of time by 
 
establishing ofher seminaries of a larger and niorc comprehensive 
 nature for the promotion of religious and moral learning and the study 
 of the arts and sciences. With this view, 1 am to direct you to con- 
 sult the mcmhurs of His Majesty's Executive Council, and the Judges 
 and Law OlTicers of the Crown in Upper Canada, and report to me, 
 in what manner and to what extent a portion of the Crown Lands 
 maybe appropriated and rendered protluctive towards the formation of 
 a fund for the above purposes, out of which His Majesty may accord- 
 ing to his pleasure allot such salaries as he shall judge proper for the 
 school-masters of such free schools, who are to be appointed by His 
 Majesty's Governor, or the person administering His Majesty's Go- 
 '^ernment within the Province for the time being, subject to His Ma- 
 jesty's approbation, signified through one of his principal secretaries 
 of state." ^ 
 
 (Copy. 
 
 Sir, 
 
 Government HousCyMay 30/A, 1833. 
 
 Earl Bathurst having, in a late Despatch to the Lieutenant Gover- 
 nor, signified the sanction of His Majesty's Government to a plan pro- 
 posed by His Excellency of forming a general Board of Education in 
 this Province, as will bo shewn by the enclosed papers, Nos. 1 and 2, 
 I have been commanded by His Excellency to request that this sub- 
 ject may engage the early attention of the Executive Council, 
 
 A Board of fit persons to carry into efiVct the proposeil plan, will 
 be immediately nominated by the Lieutenant Govern(»r, and it occurs 
 to His Excellency, that the object which in the first place requires the 
 consideration of the Committee, is th6 appropriation of some portion 
 of the land set aside for the endowment of an University, in such man- 
 ner as shall most readily and securely create a fund to enable the 
 general board of education to enter on its duties, either by conveying 
 such portion of lands in trust to the Board, (subject in all its proceed- 
 ings to the sanction of the Executive Government) or by such other 
 mode as may to the Committee appear more expedient. 
 
 I have the honor to be, 
 
 &c., &c., 
 
 G. HILLIER. 
 The Hon. the Preniding Councillor. 
 
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J33. 
 
 Extract from a Despatch addressed to Sir P. Maitland hy 
 
 the Earl Bathurst. 
 
 " I am happy to have it in niy power to convey to you His Majes- 
 ty's consent that you appropriate a portion of the reserves set aside for 
 the establishment of an University, for the support of schools on the 
 national pUm of education." 
 
 York, 1th December, 1828. 
 
 (Copy.) 
 
 Sir, 
 
 I have the honor to transmit for the information of His Excellency 
 the Lieutenant Governor, the following statement relative to the lands 
 set apart for the purposes of education. 
 
 In 1798 twelve townships were selected, containing about 740,000 
 acres, which after deducting the Crown and Clergy Reserves, left, 
 according to the report of the Surveyor Greneral, about 549,217 acres. 
 Of this quantity there has been transferred to Government, in lieu of 
 the Crown Reserves witli which King's College is endowed, 225,273 
 acres. 
 
 For the purpose of carrying into eflcct a plan submitted to Earl 
 Bathurst by His Excellency Sir Peregrine Maitland, about 190,517 
 acres have been more especially placed under the care of the general 
 board, leaving out of the original appropriation, for Schools or for the 
 University, about 134,000 acres. 
 
 I have the honor to be, &c. 
 (Signed) GEORGE H. MARKLAND. 
 
 Mr. Secy. Mudge. 
 
 (Copy) 
 
 YorkyUthMarchflS29, 
 
 A general Return of the qUaniiiy of Land reserved for Education in this 
 
 '^ Province, 
 
 In 1798, twelve townships, containing about 740,000 acres, wero 
 appropriated for education, which, after deducting the Crown and 
 Clergy Reserves, left, according to the Report of the Surveyor Gene- 
 ral, about 549,217 acres. 
 
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 In 182i1, Lord Bathurst having signified by despatch to Si^ Pere- 
 grine Maitland the sanction of His Majesty's Government to a plan 
 proposed by His Excellency of forming a General Board of Education, 
 a reference was made to the Executive Council to set apart a portion 
 of the land reserved for the endowment of Schools. The Council, in 
 consequence, recommended that the townships of Yarmouth, West- 
 minster, Southwold, Middleton, Houghton and Blandford, together 
 with Seymour and Sheffield, containing about 194,828 acres, be ap- 
 plied to carry into effect the intentions of His Majesty*s Government. 
 
 Besides this quantity, 225,273 acres have been transferred to the 
 Crown, in lieu of leased reserves with which King's College is en- 
 dowed, and there remain, theretore, about 133,427 acres not specially 
 appropriated. 
 
 The Townships originally set aside, were Alfred and Plantagenet, 
 in the Ottawa District ; Bedford, Hinchinbroke and Sheffield, in the 
 Midland District ; and Blandford, Houghton, Middleton, Southwold, 
 Westminster and Yarmouth in the London District. Alfred and 
 Plantagenet being found not to contain vacant land, Luther and 
 Proton were substituted. 
 
 MeMofandurn of the Lieutenant Governor to the Executive 
 
 Council. 
 
 From the documents which the Lieutenant Governor has examined, 
 he finds that in 1819, the Executive Council, after reading the Duke 
 of Portland's Despatch of 1797, in answer to an Address from the two 
 Houses of the Provincial Legislature, soliciting an appropriation of 
 Crown Lands for the support of an University, and Schools, stated 
 that the appropriation of the quantity of land referred to by the Com- 
 mittee appointed to take into 'consideration the Duke of Portland's 
 Despatch, Was not sufticlently sanctioned to authorise grants in other 
 portions than those limited by His Majesty's Commission, and recom- 
 mended that an authority should be obtained, to sell and lease, grant 
 and dispose of five hundred thousand acres, for the purpose of esta- 
 blishing an University in this Province. 
 
 That in 1822, Sir Peregrine Maitland submitted to H.i Majesty's 
 Government, a plan for organising a general system of Education, 
 
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 and suggested the expediency of appl}'ing the proceeds of the sale 
 of part of the lands, under the title of School Reserves, to carry it 
 into eftecl,— -and of reserving the remainder for the future endow- 
 ment of an University, should such an establishment not be con- 
 sidered advisable at present ; and proposed also, that an intro- 
 ductory schoo! on the national plan, in each town of a certain size, 
 should be established, and that the number of schools should be in- 
 creased as the circumstances of the Province might require. 
 
 That Lord Bathurst, in his despatch of the 13th October, 1623, in 
 reply to those proposals, having approved of a portion of those Re* 
 serves set aside for the establishment of an University, being appro- 
 priated for the use of Schools, on a national plan of edut^ation. Sir 
 P. Maitland requested the attention of the Executive Council to this 
 subject, in order that a portion of the School Reserves might be dis- 
 posed of, to form a fund to enable the General Board of Education to 
 enter on its duties* 
 
 That a Committee of the Executive Council, on examining extracts 
 from Lord Bathurst's despatch of the 12ih October, 1823, recom- 
 mended eight townships to be applied to carry into e^ect the inten* 
 tions of His Majesty's Government* 
 
 The Lieutenant Governor is of opinion, that central township 
 schools should be formed and endowed ; that each endowment should 
 be secured under the Great Seal ; that no masters should be appointed 
 to these schools, unless qualified to teach the elements of th^ Latin 
 language, and of Mathematics ; &nd that the District Schools should 
 also be endowed with land. 
 
 Cowrnmeni House^ 
 
 Mn.y, 1830. 
 
 Mr. MoRftis, seconded by Mr. SoniCiTfoft GfiNfittAfe, mows, that 
 the documents sent to this House by His Excellency the Lieutenant 
 Governor, on the subject of the School Lands of this Province, be 
 referred to a Select Committee, composed of Messrs. Burwell and 
 Bcrcay, with power to send for persons and papers, and to report 
 thereon by Bill or c.herwise. 
 
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 In amendmont, Mr. Perry, seconded by Mi-. Bidavell, moves 
 that the names of Messrs. Buell, and Campbell be inserted after the 
 name of Berczy. 
 
 Which was carried. 
 
 The original question, as amended, was then put and carried. 
 
 Mr. Morris, seconded by Mr. Burwell, njoves that 200 copies 
 of the documents sent to this House by His Excellency the Lieutenant 
 Governor, relative to the School Lands of this Province, be printed 
 for the use of Members. 
 
 Ordered. 
 
 Thursday y Feb. 3, 1831. 
 
 Mr. Morris, Chairman of the Select Committee on School Lands, 
 seconded by Mr. A. Fraser, moves that an Address be presented to 
 His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, requesting His Excellency 
 to lay before this House, copies of the following documents referred 
 to in the paper sent to this House by His Excellency on the second 
 instant respecting School Lands, viz : 
 
 The Joint Address to His Majesty, of the Legislative Council 
 and House of Assembly, referred to in the Despatch of tho 
 Duke of Portland ; 
 
 The Report of the Executive Council, and the opinion of the 
 Judges and Law Officers of the Crown in Upper Canada, on 
 the same subject ; 
 
 Papers, Nos. 1 & 2, referred to in the letter of Mr. Secretary 
 Hillier, dated Government House, May 13, 1823 ; 
 
 So much of the despatch to Sir Peregrine Maitland by the Earl 
 Bathurst, as relates to the School Lands, together with all 
 such documents and proceedings as relate to their appropria- 
 tion, transfer or sale, and also an account of the number of 
 acres of these lands sold in each District, the average price 
 per acre, the amount of money received by their sale, and pn 
 account ii> detail of its application, and the expense of colltiC^ 
 tion ; 
 
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 And that Messrs. Burwell and Berczy be a Committee to draft and 
 report the same. 
 
 Ordered. 
 
 Mr. Burwell, from the Committee to draft an Address to His 
 Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, for certain documents and 
 information relative to School Lands, reported a draft, which was 
 received and read twice, adopted and ordered to be engrossed and read 
 a third time this day ; and is as follows : 
 
 To His Excellency Sra John Colborne, Knight Com- 
 mander of the Most Honorable Military Order of the 
 Bath, Lieutenant Governor of the Province of Upper 
 Canada, and Major General Commanding His Ma- 
 jesty's Forces therein, &c. &c. &c. 
 
 May it please Your Excellency, 
 
 We, His Majesty's dutiful and loyal subjects, the CommonJ of 
 Upper Canada, in Provincial Parliament assembled, humbly request 
 Your Excellency to lay before this House, copies of the following 
 documents referred to in the paper sent to this House by Your Excel- 
 lency, on the second instant, respecting School Lands, viz. : 
 
 The Joint Address to His Majesty, of the Legislative Council 
 and House of Assembly, referred to in the despatch of the 
 Duke of Portland ; 
 
 The Report of the Executive Council and the opinion of the 
 Judges and Law Ofticers of the Crown in Upper Canada, on 
 the same subject ; 
 
 Papers, Nos. 1 & 2, referred to in the letter of Mr. Secretary 
 Hillier, dated Government House, May 13, 1823. 
 
 So much of the despatch to Sir Peregrine Maitland by the Earl 
 Bathufst, as relates to tfje School Lands, together with al> 
 such documents and proceedings, a^ relate to their appropria- 
 tion, transfer or sale ; and also an account of the number of 
 acres of these lands sold in each District, the average price 
 
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 per acre, the amrimt of money received by their sale, «n<l an 
 account in ddtail of its application and the expense of colleo 
 tion. 
 
 ARCHD. McLEAN, 
 
 Speakerk 
 
 Commons House ofAssemhli)^ 
 
 MPehrmry^ 1831. 
 
 Friday, Uh Peyua^y, 1831. 
 
 Mr. iNGensoLL, tfom the Comttiltlee to wait upon His Excellency 
 with the Address of this House for certain documents relative to 
 School Townships and Lands, set apart for the purposes of Education, 
 &c. reported delivering the same, and that His Excellency had been 
 pleased to make thereto the following answer : 
 
 Gentlemen, 
 
 I will direct the Inrormatton for which you apply in this Address, 
 to be laid before the House of Assembly* 
 
 
 Monday y *ilh Pebruary, 1831. 
 
 Mr. Secretary Mudge brought down from His Excellency the 
 Lieutenant Governor, a Message, Which the Speaker read as follows : 
 
 J. COLBORNB. 
 
 The Lieutenant Oox'trnor^ in compliance with An address respecting 
 the School Townships, transmits the accompanying documents, and 
 acquaints the House of Assembly, that the Joint Address referred to 
 cannot be found ; but that thii document appears Unnecessary to es- 
 tablish under whose Charge the Reserves Were placed, as th6 substance 
 of the Address is quoted in the Duke of Portland's despatch, and the 
 intention of His Miijesty communicated to authorize the Governor in 
 Council to set apart a portion of the Crown Lands towards the for- 
 mation of a School Fund, " out of which His Meyesty may allot such 
 salaries as he shall judge proper.'' The Reports of the Executive 
 
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 Council on this subject are annexed, on the framing of which it will 
 be perceived, the Judges and Law Officers of the Crown were con- 
 sulted. 
 
 The document No. 1, referred to in the letter of the 13th of May, 
 1823, is an extract of Sir Peregrine Maitland's Despatch respecting 
 School Lands and the organization of Schools, and the Document No, 
 2, referred to, has been laid before the House, It is an Extract frorai 
 Lord Bathurst's despatch, in answer to the suggestions of Sir Peregrine 
 Maitland. 
 
 The account «f the Board of Education to the end of the year 1829, 
 including the expense of collection of proceeds of sale of School 
 Lands, and their application, has been laid before the House of Assem- 
 bly at the last Session. The detailed account of the number of Acres 
 sold in each Township, and the account of the Board to the end of 
 1830, shall be forwarded to the House. 
 
 The Lieutenant Governor acquaints the House, that the arrange- 
 ments for the endowment of the Upper ^Canada. College are not yet 
 completed, and that he has suggested the expediency of dividing and 
 exchanging part of the land of tho School Townships, for the purpose 
 of raising tiie value of the School Lots, and transferring an equal 
 number of Acres in other Townships to the Board of Education. 
 
 The Report of the Executive Council on this subject is annexed.^ 
 
 Government House^ 
 
 Wi Fehrmry, 1831. 
 
 (Copy.) 
 
 Council Chamber^ Bth November) 1798. 
 
 Sir, 
 
 Having received directions from the Duke of Portland, one of His 
 Majesty's "Principal Secretaries of State, to consult the Members of 
 His Majesty's Executive Council, and the Judges and Law Officers 
 of the Crown in Upper Canada, and report to His Grace, in what 
 manner, and to what extent, a portionof the waste Lands of the Crown 
 
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 piay be appropriated and rendered productive towards the formation 
 of Q fund for the establishment of Free Grammar Schools, in those 
 Districts in which they are called for, and in due process of time by 
 establishing Seminaries of a larger and more comprehensive na- 
 ture for the promotion of religious and moral learning, and the study 
 of the arts and sciences ; out of which His Majesty may, according to 
 his pleasure, allot such salaries as he shall judge proper for the 
 School masters of such Free Schools, who are to be appointed by His 
 Majesty*s Governor, or the person administering His Majesty's Go- 
 rernment, subject to His Majesty's approbation. 
 
 I am to request you will be pleased to meet the Chief Justice and 
 the Members of His Majesty's Executive Council, at the Council 
 Chamber, on Friday the 9lh instant, for the purpose of taking the above 
 subject into your consideration, nnd reporting to me your opinions 
 thereon, that I may transmit them to the Duke of Portland for His 
 Majesty's information. 
 
 I have the honor to be. Sir, 
 
 Vour most obedient 
 
 Humble Servant, 
 (Signed) PETER RUSSELL. 
 
 
 (Copy.) 
 
 The Chief* Justice, by direction of the Board, wrote the following 
 letter to His Honor the President : 
 
 Sir, 
 
 November 10, 1798. 
 
 The Committee on His Grace the Duke of Porland's letter, on tho 
 subject of Schools, direct me to inquire of Your Honor, whether it is 
 your pleasure that we should each of us report his opinion, s .parately, 
 or whether the Chairman is to report to you a plan agreed upon by 
 ti all. 
 
 Your most obedient 
 
 i Humble servant, 
 (Si^ed) J. ELMSLEV, C. J« . 
 
 To His Honor the President, 
 &c. &c. &c. 
 
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 Forkj Wh November^ 1798; 
 
 ELL. 
 
 Sir, 
 
 I have had the honor to receive your letter of Saturday, desiring to 
 know whether the Members of the Cor Tiittee on His Grace the Duke 
 of Portland's letter on the subject of Schools, are to report their opinion 
 separately, or whether the Chairman is to report the plan agreed upon 
 by them all. In answer to which, I can only have the honor to say, 
 that in my opinion, a report from the Chairman of the plan unani- 
 mously agreed upon would be less troublesome, both to the Committee 
 and nis Grace, — and would probably throw equal if not more light 
 upon the subject, than the opinions of the members stated separately ; 
 I shall therefore only request a general report, signed by the Chair- 
 man ; however I do not mean by this to preclude any of the gentle- 
 men from favoring me with their own sentiments, in addition to the 
 general advice, as I believe it is the desire of His Majesty's Ministers 
 to obtain all the information possible on a subject of such importance 
 to the future welfare of this Province. 
 
 { have, «>:c. 
 (Signed) PETER RUSSELL. 
 
 To the Honorable John Elmsley, C. J. 
 
 V 
 
 allowing 
 1798. 
 
 sr, on the 
 
 jther it is 
 
 iparately» 
 
 upon by 
 
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 (Copy.) 
 
 Council Chamhtr at Fork^ 
 
 1st December y 1798. 
 
 RfiAD the Report of the Board, formed of the members of His Ma- 
 jesty's Executive Council and the Judges and Law Officers of the 
 Crown in Upper Canada, who were directed to take into their consi* 
 deration the letter from His Grace the Duke of Portland, on the esta- 
 blishment of Grammar Schools and other places of education in 
 this Province ; and the same having received the approbation of the 
 President in Council^ it was ordered, ** That the Report be fairly 
 copied, that it may be transmitted without delay to His Grace the 
 Duke of Portland for the information of His Majesty." 
 
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 The Report is as follows : 
 
 SlH, 
 
 Council Chamber, 
 
 Ut December^ 1798. 
 
 I have the honor to inform you, that in obedience to your order of 
 the 6th ultimo, the members of His Majesty's Executive Council, 
 the Judges and the Law Officers of the Crown, met together in this 
 place on the nineteenth ultimo, and un several occasions since, and 
 took into their consideration the letter of His Grace the Duke of Port- 
 land on the establishment of Grammar Schools and other places of 
 Education in the Province. It is not to be expected that on a subject 
 of such extent, the opinions of so many persons as were assembled to 
 consider of it, should exactly coincide ; I have, however, the satisfac- 
 tion to say, that in our general views of the system to be adopted, wo 
 are nearly agreed, and that the difference with respect to the mode in 
 which it is to be carried into effect, is not very considerable. 
 
 As it was Your Honor's pleasure that the Chairman should collect 
 the opinions of the several members of the Board and digest them into 
 one report, I took the Ifherty of distributing the subject into the five 
 following heads, and of requesting their thoughts on each, viz : 
 
 1st. The sum to be raised — 2(\. The number of acres to be appro- 
 priated — 3d. The purposes to which the fund is to be applied — 4th. 
 The number of Schools and tlie places whrre they are to be erect- 
 ed — 5th. The number now necessary. 
 
 It is now my duty to state to Your Honor, the general result of the 
 ■whole ; and should I either misrepresent the sentiments of the Board, 
 or fail to give the effect they deserve, 1 trust that Your Honor will 
 impute the blame to me only, and do justice to the several members 
 by referring to the opinions of each, which I have subjoined by way 
 of schedule. ' , ' 
 
 When the subject was first opened, it seemed to he the unanimous 
 opinion, that the intention of the Royal Founder of the free Gram- 
 mar Schools and University of Upper Canada, could not be effectu- 
 ated, but by a liberal provision for their establishment and mainte- 
 nance ; and each member of the board seemed deeply impressed with 
 a conviction, that in making his estimate of the extent of that provi- 
 sion, it would be much safer to allow too much than too little : for as 
 
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 Council, 
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 Dce, and 
 tofPort- 
 )laces of 
 a subject 
 mbled to 
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 pted, wo 
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 Id collect 
 ihem into 
 o the five 
 iz: 
 
 !)e appro- 
 led— 4th. 
 
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 suit of the 
 le Board, 
 onor will 
 
 members 
 d by way 
 
 mammous 
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 »e efiectu- 
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 jssed with 
 hat provi- 
 le : for as 
 
 17 
 
 the application of the funds will always bo directed by tlio beneficient 
 wisdom which has created it, the excess may at any time be applied 
 to olhor purposes, equally worthy of the original intention, and equally 
 conducive to the happiness of the Province ; but it will be dillicult 
 and pcrliups impossible, if the present moment be neglected, to find at 
 a future period the means of effectinr; the object before us, without 
 much expense and a delay almost subversive of the purpose. 
 
 Under this impression, tlve Board proceeded to consider in detail 
 the purposes to which the proposed fund should, when raised, be ap- 
 plied, and seemed to be unanimous in thinking that they may be re- 
 duced to three : 
 
 1st. The erection of the necessary buildings; 
 
 2n(l. The payment of the salaries of the masters ; 
 
 3d. The keeping of the buildings in repair, the purchase of books, 
 and philosophical apparatus, and other purposes essential to places of 
 education, but in general too costly to be provided by individuals. 
 
 1st. With respect to the sum to be expended on the erection of 
 the necessary buildings, the Board conceived, that taking the ave- 
 rage price of labor in the four Districts of the Province, the sum of 
 £3000, provincial currency, will be sufficient to erect a plain but 
 solid and substantial building, containing a School room sufficient to 
 hold an hundred boys, without danger to their health from too many 
 being crowded together ; and also a set of apartments for the master, 
 large enough not only f )r the accommodation of his family, but also 
 for the very desirable purpose of enabling him to take a few of his 
 pupils as boarders. Some few outbuildings may also be necessary, for 
 the use of the master, which, if they will not come within this esti- 
 mate, will not much exceed it, and may easily be provided for here- 
 after. 
 
 2nd. As the extent of the salaries of the masters is expressly re- 
 served for the Royal consideration, we do not presume to mention any 
 particular sum as sufficient for that purpose ; but as it is necessary 
 for us in making our estimate, to calculate upon some given sum, and 
 as His Excellencv the Lieutenant Governor thought the sum of JCIOO 
 provincial currency, a sufficient allowance for the master of the 
 School erected under his auspices at Kingston, — we beg leave to take 
 
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 that sum as tiie average for tlic salary of the masters of cacli scliool, 
 and lialfof it for the salary i»f an undor-mustcr, incase it should be 
 tliought expedient to have one. 
 
 3d. The sum of £30 per annum seems to be n sufTicIcnt sum for 
 keeping the buihiing in repair ; the provision for the purchase (»f 
 books, philosopliical apparatus, &c. relates to the endowment of tl)C 
 University rather than to that of the Grammar School, and is only 
 mentioned that it may not appear to have been forgotten in our cal- 
 culation. 
 
 It appeared, therefore, to be the general opinion of llic Board, that 
 a sum not excelling £3000 proviiu'ial currency, and an annual in- 
 come of £180, will bo amply sullicient for the establishment and 
 support of a free Grammar School in each District. The next object 
 •was, to consider the mode, by whicii that sum and I hat inconjc are to 
 be raised. 
 
 With respect to the former the Board had but one opinion, viz. : 
 that it can only be raised by the sale of part of tiie waste lands of the 
 Crown. If the institutions in question are to be deferred, until they 
 can be provided for from ti>o annual income of any quiintity of land 
 that can be appropriated for them, they will be deferred oitiier until 
 they have been superseded by other institutions, or until fnur or five 
 generations' of ignorance and vice have rendered them useless. 
 
 The annual income must equally be derived from tiie waste lands 
 of the Crown, and may, in the apprehension of the B(jard, be raised 
 by ('ne or other of the four following moiles. 
 
 1st. Bv the sale of so much of those lands as will raise a sum, 
 which if invested in tlie British funds, will produce the sum 
 of £180 as interest. 
 
 2d. Bv reserving such a portion of those lands as, when leased, 
 will produce that sum as rents. 
 
 3d. By appropriating to the same purpose, suclr parts of the 
 present Crown Reserves as are capable of yielding a present 
 rent ; or, 
 
 4th. By selling a poi'tion of tlie waste lands of the Crown, (al- 
 ways distinguishing between waste lands of the down and 
 
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 Crown Reserves) and laying out the proceeds in the purchase 
 of Uiuds which, from their quality, local situation, or state of 
 cultivation, cither yield or may be made to yield a present 
 rent. 
 
 On each of these motlcs the Board begs leave to submit the follow- 
 ing considerations : 
 
 With respect to the first, it observes, that besides the disadvantage 
 of the daily decreasing value of an income which is to be applied to 
 a permanent purpose — and which arises from money or which is 
 reserved in money, it will require the sale of a quantity of land, con- 
 siderably beyond any that the Board would venture to mention, to 
 raise a sum whicli, at the rate of 5 per cent, per annum, would yield 
 the sum of £180 as interest. For we conceive it to be generallv, 
 though perhaps not universally true, that whenever lands in this 
 country are ca[)able, from quality, situation or any other circumstance, 
 yielding a rent, a capital laid out in the purchase of those lands is 
 much more productive than one lent at interest on either private or 
 public security, and there is this additional advantage on the side of 
 the former, that both the real and the nominal value of rent will in- 
 crease with the increasing prosperity of the country, while the real 
 \ alue of interest decreases with the decreasing value of monay, in ii 
 proportion to which the increase of our prosperity is not a counter- 
 balance. The Board therefore considers this mode of raising the 
 income required, as wholly out of the question. 
 
 Of the remaining three modes, the Board considers that which pro- 
 poses to provi(!e the necessary income, by reserving for the use of 
 these institutions a certain ()orlion of the waste lands of the Crown, 
 and leasing them for a rack-rent, as incomparably the best ; both 
 because it is the cheapest, and because it leaves the fund of Crown 
 Reserves, from which the other public purposes of the Province mav 
 hereafter be supplied, untouched ; but it is certain that the present 
 circumstances of the Province do not authorize us to expect much 
 income from such a source for some years at least. It may thercforn 
 be necessary to break in upon the Crown Reserves, and to appropriate 
 such of them af are n<jw cupahio of yielding rent, to the present pur- 
 pose' ; aid should the fund, even after this assistance, be still inade- 
 quate, notiiing will remain but to recur to t!ie fourth of the j)rop()sed 
 
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 modes, and to lay out n part of the sum arising from the mIcs in the 
 purchase of lands ca^)able uf producing the income required. 
 
 The object which next engaged the attention of the Hoard, was to 
 consider, in what parts of the several Districts of the Province the 
 proposed schools and seminary should he erected. On this |)oint wo 
 were unanimous in tiiinking that the towns of Cornwall, Kingston, 
 Newark, and Sandwich, are the most proper places for the sites of tho 
 four schools. We were equally unanimous in considering the town 
 of York as entitled to the University, both as being the seat of tho 
 Executive Government, the Legislature and the Courts of Justice, and 
 as being by far the most convenient spot, in the Province for ait 
 general jmrposes — its situation being nearly central, and besides its 
 accessibility by water, tho pro[)()scd high road fmm tho one end of tho 
 Province to the other being necessarily to pass near it, or through it. 
 
 There was not the same coincidence of opinion with respect to tho 
 number of schools which the several members of the Boartl consider 
 as now necessary. Each part of the Province seemed to have its 
 claims ; and might consider itself as injured, if it were postponed to 
 anv other ; some of the gentlemen were of opinion that four schools 
 were now necessary, and that the whole number should be begun at 
 the same time ; others thought that besides the necessity of managing 
 the fund in the most frugal manner, the present circumstances of the 
 Province do not call for the erection of more than two schools ; and 
 that if the situations of these two are obviously selected, not with a 
 A iew to any pai^ticular district, but to the Province at large, there will 
 Te no room for any jealousy among the several parts of it. After some 
 discussion, this opinion was acceded to, and the Towns of Kingston 
 and Newark were selected, the former for the Eastern and the latter 
 for tlie V/cstern half of the Province. But it was at the same time 
 sti[)ulatcd and agreed, that as soon as the fond should be sulFiciently 
 productive, the Towns of Cornwall and Sandwich shall each receive 
 u similar mark of the Royal muniticence. 
 
 Nothing now remains but that I should state to your Honor the 
 extent of the apj)roprIation of waste lands, which in the conceptions 
 of the members of the Board, is necessary for the purpose in question ; 
 and on tiiis subject I am happy to say, that our calculations approach 
 as nearly to each other as could reasonably be expected. 
 
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 I bolicve I \nay state It ns our unnnimous opinion, that the appro- 
 priation should cover such a portion of the waste lands of the Crown 
 H», if now sold, wouhl produce ihe sum of £18,000 Provincial Cur- 
 rency : estimating the |)resent average price of land at about 9d. per 
 ucre, the quantity recpiired will ho nearly 500,000 acres or ten Town- 
 ships, after the deduction of ttie Crown and Clerg;, sevenths. 
 
 It is obvicuis, ihiit if the four schools are all erected immediately, 
 nnil the allowance which our estimate proposes for them is not ex- 
 travagant, ;i much larger sum than that which I have mentioned will 
 be necessury, and consequently a much larger appropriation must bo 
 made. But in the manner in which we propose that the fund should 
 be managed, we conceive that the quantity above mentioned will not 
 only bo amply sulHcient for the establishment and support of the four 
 schools, but will be nearly if not quite adequate to the erection and 
 endowment of the University which the Royal bounty has promis(?d 
 to provide for us, whenever the advancement of the Province calls 
 for such an institution. 
 
 Havinu trespassed so long upcn your Honor's time and attention, I 
 shall not trouble you with the detail of the manner in which we con- 
 ceive that the proposed fund should be managed, because I hope that 
 it will be sufTicicntly apparent from the following resolutions, into 
 M'liich the Board has condensed all tfiat it has to offer on the inter- 
 esting and important subject whic!> has engaged it : I have therefor© 
 the honor to inform you that the members of His Majesty's Execu- 
 tive Council, the Judges and the Law Olfjcers of the Crown, after 
 much reflection and deliberation on the matter referred to them, are 
 of opinion : 
 
 1st. That an appropriation of 500,000 acres, or ten township?, 
 afier deducting the Crown and Clergy sevenths, will be a sufficient 
 fund for the establishment and maintenance of the Royal foundation of 
 four Grammar Schools and an University in the Province of Upper 
 C..:iada. 
 
 2nd. That the present circumstances of the Province call for the 
 erection of two »)f those schools, one at the Town of Kingston, the 
 other at the Town of Newark. 
 
 3rd. That for the purpose of building a plain but solid and sub- 
 stantial house, containing a school-rv)om sufficient to contain 100 boys, 
 
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 and apartments for tlie master, lar«];e enouii^h for the accommodation of 
 a modeiate family and the reception of from ten to twenty boys as 
 boarders, the sum of £3,000 Provincial Currency for "ach, will be u 
 suflicient allowance. 
 
 4th. That for the purpose of raisinij that sum, a portion of the ap- 
 propriation be sold in the manner directed by His Grace thu Dulce of 
 Portland with respect to the other waste lanils of the Crown. 
 
 5th. That f)r the purpose of defray iiii; the salaries of a master and 
 nnder-master, in case an under- *naster sliotdd be thought neces>ar>, 
 and also for the purpose of kee|)inf]j the buildings in repair, and making 
 such additions thereto as circumstances shall require, the annual sum 
 of £180 Provincial Currency for each iichool, will be a sulFicient 
 allowance. 
 
 Gth. That in order to raise tliis annua! sum, stirh parts 'if the waste 
 lands of the Crown in the different parts of the Province bo selected, 
 as from the quality of the soil, or from their local situation, are most 
 likely to yield an annual rent — and that they be leased in the manner 
 lieretofore recommended by His Majesty's Executive Council witli 
 respect to the Crown and Clergy Reserves. 
 
 7th. That if the Income arising from the lands so reserved and 
 
 leaseed b insufiicient for the purposes above mentioned, a similar se- 
 lection be made from the Crown Reserves. 
 
 8th. That if, after this addition, the fund be still insufTicieni, a fur- 
 ther ])ortion of the appropriated land l)e sold, and the ;'V)iiey arising 
 from the sale invested iu the j)urchase of other lands so situated as to 
 yield a present rent. 
 
 9th. That whenever the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, or Per- 
 son administering the Government, in Council, shall be of opinion that 
 the circumstances of the Province call for the erection of two other 
 schools, and also that the appropriation fund is sutlicient not oidy to 
 bear the expense of the erection and endowment of those two schools, 
 hut also to leave a residue sulncient for the establishment and future 
 maintenance of a Seminary of a larger ami more comprehensive nature, 
 the same steps be pirrsned-Avith respect to such two schools, as have 
 been already recommended with resject to the two 'jchoolsat Kingston 
 and Newark. 
 
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 ' boys as 
 will be u 
 
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 incil witli 
 
 rvr'd find 
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 Kinctslon 
 
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 10th. That the iTovislon for the estahlislmont and maintenance 
 of the University be at ioust equal to that fur the four schools tai-ien 
 together. 
 
 I have the honor to be, 
 
 &c. &c. &c. 
 (Signed) J. ELMSLEY, C.J. 
 
 I pcrfoclly accord with this Report in all its parts. 
 
 (Signed) 
 
 PETER RUSSELL, 
 
 Docuw.mt Xo. 1, referred to in Mr. Sccrelnry Hilh'er''s letter to the 
 Erec.Jve Council of the V2!k Jtfaijy 1S23, respecting School 
 Lands. 
 
 (Extract of a Dcspn'cli from Sir P. M.iitland to Earl Bathurst.) 
 
 " Much good might be clFL-cted by the organization of a general 
 system of education, an object to which might be applied the pro- 
 ceeds of the sale of some portion of the lands set aside under the 
 title of ' Si'liool Reserves,' consisting of 12 townships, comprising 
 740,000 acres, still however reserving a certain portion for the 
 future enilowmeiit ol an University, siiould such an establishment not 
 be considered advisable at present.'' 
 
 ''It is proposed to establish one introductory school on the 
 national plan, in each tov.'u of a certain size. It is supposed that a 
 salary of one luinJred pountls jier annum to the riaster of each such 
 school would be suRicient. The number of these schools may be in- 
 creased as the circumstances of t!ie Province may require, and the 
 means allow." 
 
 (Copy) 
 
 To His Excellency Sir Perfgrin;: Maitland, kc. &c. 
 May it please Your Excellency, 
 
 The Committee of the Executive Council, to whom Your Excel- 
 lency was pleased to refer the consideration of u plan for establishing 
 
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 a University in this Province, nssembled this day, and by Your Ex- 
 cellency's permission, requested the attendance and assistance of His 
 Majesty's Attorney General. 
 
 A lettor was read from his Grace tlie Duke of Portland to Lieu- 
 tenant Governor Simcoe, bearing date the 22d June, 1796, acknow- 
 ledging the receipt of a letter from the Bishop of Quebec, upon the 
 subject of a school of a higher class, which His Grace then did not 
 think necessary in Upper Canada. A letter was also read from His 
 Grace, bearing date the 4th Nov. 1797, acknowledging an Address 
 from the two Houses of the Legislature, recjuesting an appropriation 
 of the Crown Lands for the establishment of Schools, and commuiii-' 
 eating His Majesty's pleasure to acquiesce in their petition, directirg 
 the Governor to consult the Members of the Executive Council, tho 
 Judges and Law Officers, on the requisite means to report to Hi8 
 Grace for His Majesty's information, what schools were then neces- 
 sary, and also to erect and endow a University. 
 
 On this letter the Committee named, reported four schools to be 
 necessary, a sum of three thousand pounds requisite to erect them, 
 and an annual sum of one hundred and eighty pounds to pay a master 
 and sub-master and keep the building in repair; and the sum of three 
 thousand six hundred and twenty pounds for a University. 
 
 That a fund to raise this sum would require five hundred thousand 
 acres of land, wiiich was recommended to be set apart ft)r such pur- 
 pose, — and the report, approved by the President, Avas directed to be 
 transmitted for the information of His Majesty's Government. 
 
 No answer to this report, or further confirmation of it, can be 
 traced in the office of the Esecutivo Council. The romm H -e, 
 therefore, concurring in opinion with His Miijcj-ty's Attorney 
 CTcneral, thai the appiupriation of that quantity of hind is not sufTi- 
 cientlv sanctioned to auiiiorise a griint in other portions than limitei 
 bv His Majesty's commission, huiiiMy recom'nend that Your Eixcel- 
 lency do call the attention of His Majesty's Government to a formal 
 sanction under the Royal Sign Manual, or the signature of His 
 Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies, to sell, lease, 
 grant and dispose of the said five hundred th.ousand acres of land, for 
 the purpose of establishing a University in this Province. 
 
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 In the mean time, in conformity to Your Excellency's pleasure, 
 tlie Committee proceeded to consider the detail required by Your 
 Excellency. 
 
 In pursuing this ohjcct, the Committee first observe that provi- 
 sion for District Schools is not now required out of tiiis fund, being 
 made by the Logislatu.e. The scale established by the former Com- 
 mittee appears, at present, very inadequate. 
 
 The Committee is of opinion that a sum not less than ten thousand 
 pounds will be required to erect a suitable building and provide a 
 library, philosophical apparatus, and a botanic garden. 
 
 That an annual sum of four thousand pounds may be deemed neces- 
 sary ; ' defray the salaries of Principal, Professors, Preceptors, 
 Scholarships, Librarian, Gardener, and other officers with other 
 contingencies. 
 
 That to raise these sums, it will be proper that a sale of land 
 should be made from time to time, to meet with security the exigen- 
 cies of the establishment until the revenue Mill supply the annual 
 expenditure. 
 
 That a commission should permanently attend, with large powers 
 to sell and lease the land and manage its revenues, under the direction 
 of the Executive Government. It is also considered, that it would 
 conduce much to the importance and utility -c the projected Univer- 
 sity, if its constitution should be by a Royal Charter. All which is 
 humbly subm'tted. 
 
 By order, 
 
 (Signed,) W. DUMMER POWELL, C. J. 
 
 Executice Council Chamber^ 
 
 Fork J 1th January, 1819. 
 
 Exlrad of a Report of the Executive Council to the Lieutenant 
 Governor, dated Mlh November, 1S30. 
 
 The Council entirely concurs in the recommendations of Your Ex- 
 cellency, assuming that nn equivalent in lands may be so arranged in 
 the proposed exchanges, as neither to prejudice the interests of the 
 
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 Crown nor of the School funil ; and "mdocd it appenrs to the Council, 
 that the measure suggested will be highly favorable to the public in- 
 terests in aflording the Crown the means of dispensiui;- more generally 
 through the country the many respectable emigrants arriving from 
 Europe. 
 
 Mr. Morris, seconded by Mr. Burwell, moves that the Message 
 of His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor on the subject of School 
 Lands, together with the accompanying documents sent down by His 
 Excellency this day, be referred to the Select Committee on School 
 Lands. 
 
 Ordered. 
 
 Mr. Morris, seconded by Mr. B'orwell, moves that 200 copies 
 of tbe M(!ssiigc of His ExcelK-ncy ;ind the di)cuaicuts accompanying 
 it, be printed for the use of Meiubors. 
 
 Ordered. 
 
 Wednesday, 23J Fcbriiarij, 1831. 
 
 * Mr. Morris, fr :)m the Select Committee tn whom were referred 
 the several documents sent down by His Excellency the Lieutenant 
 Govern(>r nn the sulijisct of School Lnnds, informed the House, (hat 
 the Committee li;!<! agreed to a Report, which he was directed to sub- 
 mit for the adoption of the House. 
 
 The Report was received, and was read as folloW'S : 
 
 Report of Select Commitlce on School Lands. 
 
 The Committee appointed to consider and report on the documents 
 sent down lo this House bv His Excellencv the Lieutenant Covejnor, 
 on tbe subject of School Lands, respectfully make this their first 
 Report. 
 
 Your Committee upon a perusal »)f these important papers, learn, 
 that in the year 1797, the Legislative Council and House of Assem- 
 bly of this Piovincc, passed a joint Address to His Majesty, " implor- 
 
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 Council, 
 public in- 
 generally 
 'ing from 
 
 
 Message 
 )r Scli()<>I 
 ^n by His 
 m Siliool 
 
 00 copies 
 iipu living 
 
 1831. 
 
 referred 
 ieiiienant 
 •use, that 
 d lo sub- 
 
 iicuments 
 iovejnor, 
 their first 
 
 ■s, learn, 
 f Assem- 
 ' implor- 
 
 u\<f that His Mcijesty wouUl ba graciously plrrsel lo direct the appro- 
 priation of a certain portion of the waste lands of the Crown as a 
 fund ft>r the establishment and support of a respectable Grammar 
 Scho(d in each district liiereof ; and also of a College or University 
 for the instruction of youth in ihi; diilercMil branches of liberal know- 
 ledge," To which His Majesty was graciously pleased to express 
 his intention, " to comply with the wishes of the Legislature of His 
 Province of Upper Canada, in such manner as should be judged to be 
 the most ctfectual — First, by the establishment of Free Grammar 
 Schotds in those districts in which they are called for, and in due pro- 
 cess 3f time by establishing other seminaries of a larger and more com- 
 prehensive nature, for the promotion of religious and moral learning, 
 and the study of the arts and sciences." For wliich purpose, Mr. 
 President Russell was directed to consult the Members of the Execu- 
 tive Council and the Judges and Law OlHcers of the Crown, and to 
 rej)ort in what manner and to what extent a portion of the Crown 
 Lands might be appropriiited and rendered productive towards the 
 formation of a fund ior these purposes, out of whici) His Majesty might 
 allot such salaries as he should judt^e proper for the school-masters of 
 such free schools as should thereafter be iippoinled ; and on the 1st 
 December, 1798, tlie Executive Couiicil reported to Mr. President 
 Russell, that an appropriation of 5()0,()()() acres, or ten townships, 
 after deducting the Crown and Clergy sevenths, would be a sullici- 
 ent fund for the establishment and maintenance of the Royal founda- 
 tion of four Grammar Schools and an University in tiie Province of 
 Upper Canada, and that the proposed School Fund should, when 
 raiseil, be applied ; 
 
 1st. For tlie erection of the nccessiiry buiMings. 
 
 2nd. For the payment of the sahirif\s of the masters. 
 
 3rd. For keeping the buildings in rep;iir, and the purchase of hooks 
 and philosophical apparatus; ami that i!3!)00 currency slu uld be 
 applied to erect each building; and .tl^f) per annum, for the c.iab- 
 lishment and support of a free Gramn.ar School in each District. 
 
 The Council also reported, that the towns of Cornwall, Kingston, 
 Newark and Sandwich, were at that time the most proper ))laces for 
 the sites of the four schools first nece>sary, — and that the town of 
 York was the most suitable for a Univer^ity ; and that two of the 
 
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 schools, namely at Kingston nnd Xcwark, should be conimoncc.'d first ; 
 and that whenever the appropriated fund should be found sulfu^ient 
 not only to bear the expense of the erection and endowment of those 
 two schools, but also to leave a residue sulncient for the establish- 
 ment and future maintenance of a seminary of a larger and ijir.re com- 
 prehensive nature, that steps shouUI be taken to endow the two other 
 schools. 
 
 The Executive Council also recommended, that the provision for 
 the establishment anrl maintenance o( the Univerrsity should at lea^t 
 be equal to that for the four schools taken together. 
 
 Your Committee, upon looking over the remaininc: documents 
 which His Excellency had the goodness to comniUnicate to this 
 House, are informed that the attention of the Council was again di- 
 rected to the School Land Reservation, on the 7th January, 1819, 
 and that they reported to IJis Excellency Sir P. Maitland, that no 
 trace of any answer to the Report of the Council of 1st December, 
 1798, could be found in the Council Office : that as they were of 
 opinion with the Attorney General, that the appropriation of land 
 was not sufficiently sanctioned to authorize a grant in other j)or- 
 tions than limited by His Maj(;sty's Commission, they thought it 
 proper to recommend that His Excellency should call the attention 
 of His Majesty's government to a formal sanction to sell, lease, grant 
 and dispose of the said 500,000 acres of land for the purpose of estab- 
 lishing a University in this Province, endowed by Royal Charter, as 
 provision for District Schools was not by them thought necessary out 
 of this fund, as it had been already made by the Legislature; and 
 that in order to construct the necessary building, the sumof JC10,000 
 would be required, with an endowment of £1000 [)cr annum for the 
 payment of salaries. 
 
 From this condensed view of the proceedings of the Executive 
 Council on the munidcent provision for the ditl'usion of E^ducation 
 in this Province, the Committee are struck with the singular fact, 
 that no apparent benefit has resulted to the inhabitants of the country 
 from the school reservation for a period of 30 years ; and that the 
 •riginal intention of the Legislature, expressed in the Joint Address 
 to His Majesty, as well us His Majesty's most gracious desire to meet 
 their washes by the establishment of Free Grammar Schools in tln.s3 
 Districts in which ihey are called for, and in due process of time to 
 
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 establish other seminaries of a more extensive nature, liave hitherto, 
 «sfar as your Committee can judge, been lost sigiit of; and for no 
 other reason that your Commiitce can discover, than that a School 
 lias, by an Act of the Legislature, been already established in each 
 District, with a salary of £100 to the Master, but this very limited 
 provision, your Committee respectfully submit, ought not to deprive 
 the ))oople of their just claim to a participation in the benefits of the 
 School Lands ; and to that end the Committee suggest, that the 
 House ought now to address His Majesty, setting forth the great va- 
 lue of these lands, and the ample means which they allbrd to carry 
 ir.to elTcct liic benevolent intentions of His late Royal Father, by an 
 endowment from their proceeds for each District of at least £400 
 wliicli x^dded to the present appropriation would support eleven res- 
 pectable seminaries, where the youth of the Province generally might 
 receive a liberal education without being removrd many hundred 
 miles from the tender care and watchful authority wf their parents, 
 as must be the ca^se if those lands are exclusively applied to establish 
 and supjiort King's College or any other extensive University, which 
 can only be viev,-ed as of benefit to those whose wealth enables them 
 to bear the great expense of sending their children to the capital of 
 the Province. Your Committee also rocommend, that besides the 
 above endowment, the sum of £2000 might bo set apart for the an- 
 nual support of a Provincial Seminary at York, whether called 
 " Upper Canada College " or by any other n^me ; and that a suita- 
 ble sum should be expended to erect the necessary buildings, and also 
 to defray the expense of buildings for Free Grammar Schools, That 
 besides these endowments, your Committee are of opinion that the 
 great value and extent of the Reservation will atFurd the means of 
 providing a salary of £50 each to the teachers of at least 12 town- 
 sliip sclioids in every district, and thus give to U[)pcr Canada a sys- 
 tem of education that might well bo envietl by any other colony in 
 His Majesty's dominions. 
 
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 The data upon whicli your Committee have made the foregoing 
 sugg^^stions, are the following, viz. : that the whole reservation of 
 519,217 acres, if sold at tlie average price of 10s. ])er acre, would 
 give a capital of £274,G08, producing, if invested at the rate of 5 per 
 cent, interest, an annual income of £1.3,730 — a sum sufficient to en- 
 dow th.e schools which vour Committee conceive to be necessary, be- 
 
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 sides leaving an im|)ortimt buiuuce to defray the expense of the sales 
 and collecting the money ; 
 
 11 Grammar Schools at £400 is £4,400 
 
 1 College at York 2,000 
 
 132 Township Schools, ht'ini^ 12 in each District, 
 
 at JCjO '. G,G0O 
 
 Balance 730 
 
 £13,730 
 
 Your Committee, in assntning that these lands will sell at the 
 ahove rate, conceive, that they have much underrated their actual 
 value, as it is generally understood that tlie Council of King's Col- 
 lege have estimated 225,273 acres of Crown Reserves, which were 
 exchanged for, and now i'orin a [xirt of the School Reservation, as 
 worth one pound an acre. 
 
 Your Committee, taking all ihe circumslanres of this highly im- 
 portant subject into their most, serious consideration, and averse to an 
 extensive endowment out of this fund to King's College, or any 
 other University, until the original intention of founding a frce Gram- 
 mar School in each District has first been carried into etfect, earnestly 
 recommend to the house that an humble address be forthwith trans- 
 mitted to His Majesty, res[)ecting tlie manifest injury that is inflicted 
 on the inhabitants of this Province, by the endowment of the best half 
 of the School Reservation for the establishment of a seminary far 
 exceeding the wants of the country, and solemnly beseeching His 
 Majesty to listen to the anxious desire of his faithful subjects in Upper 
 Canada, by arresting the alienation of these lands from their original 
 purpose, and placing thetn under the control of the Legislature, and 
 for this object your Commiltee submit the following Resolutions for 
 the consideration of the House. 
 
 All which is respeclfuily syibmilted. 
 
 VV. MORRIS, 
 
 Chairman. 
 Committee Room^ House of Assemhiyj 
 23d February, 1S31. 
 
 Resolved, That His Majesty, in the year 17f)7, was graciously 
 pleased to communicate (o the government of this Province, by a 
 
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 Despatch from the Duke of Portland to Mr. President Russell, in 
 answer to a joint address of the Legislature, His Majesty's intention 
 to set apart a certain portion of the waste lands of the Crown, as a 
 fund for the establishment and support of a Free Grammar School in 
 those Districts in which they are called for, and in due process of time 
 to establish other seminaries of a more comprehensive nature. 
 
 Resolved, That although mor^ than 30 years have elapsed, since 
 His Majesty made this gratifying communication, it does m)t come 
 within the knowledge of this Committee, that even one free Gram- 
 mar School has been endowed from these lands, or any other seminary 
 established, in consequeiite of that reservation, excei)t a school at the 
 seatof government called the Royal Grammar School. 
 
 Resolved, That the establishment by the Legislature of a public 
 school in each district, with a salary of £100 currency paiil out of 
 the provincial treasury to the ma.>itor, does not afiford sufficient means 
 to instruct the youth of the Province in the several branches of clas- 
 sical and scionlific learning, and ought not therefore to be considered 
 as a reastm for withholding the support which His Majesty intended 
 for the District Grammar Schools. 
 
 Resolved, That it is iTiost important to the contentment and welfare 
 of the people of this Province, that the school lands be applied to the 
 purposes for which they were originally intended, and immediate 
 steps taken to represent to His Majesty's government, that the several 
 districts, from their extensive and rapidly increasing population, are 
 now in a state to require the establishment of free grammar schools 
 with a suitable endowment, which schools, if incorporated with the 
 present District Schools, would allbrd the means of respectable sup- 
 port to a master and two assistants in each, and thereby enable the 
 inhabitants generally to confer the blessings of a liberal education on 
 their children, and lliul employment as masters for such of them as 
 may be found to have made the necessary proficiency in the acquire- 
 ment of classical and scientific knowledge. 
 
 Resolved, That it would be much more satisfactory to the people 
 of this Province, if the monies arising from the sale of school lands 
 were paid into the hands of the Receiver General, and the fund 
 placed at the disposal of the Legislature instead of the present 
 arrangement, as not only the control of the funds, but the general 
 
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 superintendence and organization of the whole system, would thus 
 be open to public inspection and approval. 
 
 Resolved, That an humble Address be presented to His Majesty, 
 setting forth the substance of the foregoing resolutions, and imploring 
 His MaJ3sty's early attention to the anxious hope of His Majesty's 
 faithful subjects of Upper Canada, that the School lands may not be 
 applied to any other ohject tlian th<«t for which they were intended 
 by His Majesty's late Royal Father. 
 
 Wednesday, March \Cih, 1S31. 
 
 Aijreeablv to the order of the dav, the House wont into a Com- 
 raittce of the whole on the Report of the Select Comuiiftce on 
 School Lands. 
 
 Mr. Clark was called to the Chair. 
 
 The House resumed. 
 
 Mr. Clark reported, that the Committee had agreed to a resolu- 
 tion, which he was directed to submit for the adoption of the House. 
 
 The report was received, and the resolution was adopted ncm, con. 
 as follows : 
 
 Resolved, That His Majesty, in the year one thousand seven hun- 
 dred and ninety-seven, was graciously pleased to communicate to the 
 government of this Province, by a Despatch from the Duke of Port- 
 land to Mr. President Russoll, in answer to a joint Address of the 
 Legislature, His Majesty's intention to set a[)art a certain portion of 
 the waste lands of the Crown, as a fund for the establishment and sup- 
 port of a free grammar school in those districts in which they are 
 called for; and in due process of time to establish other seminaries of 
 Q more comprehensive nature. 
 
 Present — Messrs. Attorney General, Beardsley, Didwell, Boulton, 
 Burwell, Campbell, Chisholm, Clark, W. Crooks, Duncombc, Elliott, 
 Howard, Ingersoll, Jarvis, Lyons, McCall, D. McDonald, Mac- 
 kenzie, McNab, MaQon, Mount, Perry, Randal, Robinson, Roblin, 
 Sampson, John Wilson, W. Wilson. 
 
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 cm. con. 
 
 Wednesday^ 2Ut December^ 1831. 
 
 Agreeably to the order of the day, the Journals of the last Session 
 relative to School Lands, were read, (MS. Copy, page 407, 2d vol. 
 Appendix.) 
 
 Mr. Morris, seconded by Mr. Duncombe, moves that the House 
 do now resolve itself into a committee on the proceedings of last Ses- 
 sion, relative to the Sciiool Lands Reservation. 
 
 Which was carried, and Mr. Clark was called to the Chair. 
 
 The House resumed, the Black Rod being at the door. 
 
 The Speaker left the Chair. 
 
 The Chairman resumed the chair of Committee. 
 
 The House resumed. 
 
 Mr. Clark reported that the Committee had agreed to several 
 resolutions, which he was directed to submit for the adoption of the 
 House. 
 
 The Report was received. 
 
 The first Resolution was put and carried as follows ; 
 
 Resolved, That His Majesty, in the year 1797, was graciously 
 pleased to communicate to the Governnxjnt of this Province, by a 
 Despatch from His Grace the Duke of Portland, to Mr. President 
 Russell, in answer to a joint Address of the Legislature, His Majes- 
 ty's intention to set apart a certain portion of the waste lands of the 
 Crown, as a fund for the establishment and support of a free grammar 
 school in those districts in which they are called for, and in due pro- 
 cess of time to establish other seminaries of a more comprehensive 
 nature. 
 
 The second Resolution was then put and carried nem. con, a s 
 follows : 
 
 Resolved, that although more than thirty years have elapsed since 
 His Majesty made this most gratifying communication, it does not 
 come within the knowledge of this house, that even one free granynar 
 
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 school has been endowcl from these lands, or any other seminary 
 established out of that reservation. 
 
 Present — Messrs. Attorney Genernl, Berczy, Bidweil, Boulton, 
 Buell, Clark, Crooks, Duncombe, Elliott, A. Fraser, Howard, Inger- 
 soll, Jones, Lewis, McCall, A. McDonald, McMartin, McNab, 
 Macon, Morris, Mount, Norton, Perry, Handal, Robinson, Roblin, 
 Samson, Shade, Shaver, Solicitor General, Thomson, Vankoughnot, 
 Warren, Werden, W. Wilson. 
 
 The third Resolution was then put and carried, nem. con. as fol- 
 lows : 
 
 Resolved, That the establishment by the Legislature of a public 
 school in each district, with a salary of one hundred pounds currency 
 paid out of the Provincial Treasury to the master, does not afford suf- 
 ficient means to instruct the youth of the province in the several bran- 
 ches of classical and scientific learning, and ought not therefore to be 
 considered as a reason for withholding the support which His Majes- 
 ty intended for the District Grammar Schools. 
 
 Present — Messrs. Att. General, Berczy, Bidwell, Boulton, Buell, 
 Clark, Crooks, Duncombe, Elliott, A. Fraser, Howard, Ingersoll, 
 Jones, Lewis, McCall, A. McDonald, McMartin, McNab, Ma^on, 
 Morris, Mount, Norton, Perry, Randall, Robinson, Roblin, Samson, 
 Shade, Shaver, Solicitor General, Thomson, Vankoughnet, Warren, 
 Werden, and W. Wilson. 
 
 The fourth Resolution was then read as follows : 
 
 Resolved, That it is most important to the contcitl.nent and welfare 
 of the people of this Province, that the school la ids be appropriated 
 to the purposes for which they were originally intended, and imme- 
 diate steps taken to represent to His Majesty's Government, that the 
 several Districts, from their extensive and rapidly increasing popula- 
 tion, are now in a state to require the establishment of free grammar 
 schools with a suitable endowment, which schools, if incorporated 
 with the present district schools, would afford the means of respectable 
 support to a master and two assistants in each, and thereby enable the 
 inhabitants generally to confer the blessings of a liberal education on 
 their children, and find employment as masters for such of them as 
 
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 may be founc! to have made the necessary proficiency in the acquire- 
 ment of classical and scientific knowledge. 
 
 In amendment, Mr. Perry, seconded by Mr. Biowell, moves, 
 that all the words in the original resolution be expunged after the 
 word " endowment," and the following words inserted, " which would 
 enable the inhabitants generally to confer the blessings of a liberal 
 education on their children." 
 
 On which the House divided, and the yeas and nays were taken as 
 follows : 
 
 Yeas — Messrs. Berczy, Bidwell,Buel, Clark, A. Fraser, Howard, 
 McCall, A. McDonald, McMartin, Norton, Perry, Randall, Roblin, 
 Shaver, Warren, W. Wilson,— 16. 
 
 Nays — Messrs. Attorney General, Boulton, Crooks, Buncombe, 
 Elliott, Ingersoll, Jones, Lewis, McNab, Maqon, Morris, Mount, 
 Robinson, Samson, Shade, Solicitor General, Thomson, Vankoughnet, 
 Werden.— 19. 
 
 The question of amendment was decided in the negative by a ma- 
 jority of three. 
 
 The original question was then put and carried nem. cou. 
 
 Present — Messrs. Attorney General, Berczy, Bidwell, Boulton, 
 Buell, Clark, Crooks, Buncombe, Elliott, A. Fraser, Howartl, 
 Ingersoll, Jones, Lewis, McCall, A. McDonald, McMartin, McNab, 
 Macon, Morris, Mount, Norton, Perry, Randal, Robinson, Roblin, 
 Samson, Shade, Shaver, Solicitor General, Thomson, Vankoughnet, 
 Warren, Werden, W. Wilson. 
 
 The fifth Resolution was then put and carried, nem. con.y as 
 follows : 
 
 Resolved, Tlial it would be much more satisfactory to the people 
 of this Province, if the monies arising from the School Lands were 
 paid immediately into the hands of the Receiver General, and the fund 
 placed at the disposal of the Legislature, instead of the present ar- 
 rangement, as not only the control of the funds, but the general super- 
 intendence and organization of the whole system would be thus open 
 to public inspection and approval. 
 
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 Present — Messrs. Attorney Genera], Berczy. Bidwell, BouItoD, 
 Buell, Chisholin, Clark, Crooks, Duncombe, jL.iliott, A. Fraser, 
 Howard, IngersoU, Jones, Lewis, McCall, A. McDonald, McMartin, 
 McNab, Ma^on, Morris, Mount, Norton, Perry, Randal, Robinson, 
 Roblin, Samson, Shade, Shaver, Solicitor General, Thomson, Van- 
 koughnet, Warren, Werdeii, and W. Wilson. 
 
 The sixth Resolution was then put and carried as follows : 
 
 Resolved, That an humble Address l« presented to Hi» Majesty, 
 settin ; forth the substance of the foregoins R^ '.. ions, and imploring 
 His Majesty's early attention to the anxiovs hope of His Majesty's 
 faithful subjects of Upper Canada, that the school lands may not bo 
 applied to any other object thar that fur which they >Ycre intended by 
 His Majesty's late Royal Father. 
 
 The seventh Resolution wp" then put and earn .'d as follows : 
 
 Resolved, That the Chairman be instructed to draft and report to 
 the blouse, an Address to His Majesty, founded on the foregoing 
 Resolutions. 
 
 Agreeably to order, Mr. Clark, Chairman of the Committee of 
 the whole, on the subjjct of School Lands, reported the draft of an 
 AddresiJ to His Majesty, which was received, read twice, concurred 
 in, and rdered to be engrossed and read a third time to-morrow. 
 
 Thursday, December 22, 1831 
 
 Agreeably to the order of the day, the Address to His Majesty on 
 the subject of School Lands was read the third time. 
 
 On the question for passing the same, Mr. pEftnr, seconded by 
 Mr. Bidwell, moves in amendment, that the Address do not now 
 pass, but thptt the same be now referred to a Committee of the whole 
 House. 
 
 Which was carried, and Mr. McMartin was called to the Chair. 
 
 The House resumed, 
 
 Mr. McMartin reported the Address ns amended. 
 
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 The Report was received, and the Address was ordered to be 
 #».-ngf«ssGd and read a lliird time this dav. 
 
 Fri%, December 23, 1831. 
 Agreeably t^ the order of the day, the Address to His Majesty on 
 the su'jject of S^'nool Lands was read a third time, and passed nem. 
 C07I., and is as follows : 
 
 To the King''s Most Excellent Majesty. 
 
 Most Gracious Sovereign, 
 
 We, Your Majesty's most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Commons 
 of Upper Canada, in Provincial Parliament assembled, most humbly 
 approach Your Majosty, to represent that, in the year 1797, lour 
 Majesty's Royal Father was graciously pleased to communicate to the 
 Government of this Province, in answer to a joint Address of the 
 Legislature, His Majesty's intention to set apart a certain portion of 
 the waste lands of the Crown as a fund for the establishment and 
 support of a Free Grammar School in those Districts in which they 
 arc called for, and in due process of tiiue to establish other seminaries 
 of a more comprehensive nature. 
 
 That altl agh more than thirty years have elapsed since His 
 Majesty made this gratifying communication, it does not appear 
 that even one Free Grammar School has been sndowed from these 
 lands, or any other Seminary established out of that reservation. 
 
 We would further represent to Your Majety, that the establish- 
 ment (by the Legislature) of h Public School in each District, with 
 & salary of one hundred pounds, currency, paid out of the Provincial 
 Treasury, to the Master, does not afford sufficient means to instruct 
 the youtli of the Province in the several branches of classical and 
 scientific learning, and ought not therefore to be considered as a 
 reason for withholdi' g the support which His Majesty intended for 
 the Free Grammar Schools. It is therefore most important to the 
 contentment and welfare of the people of this Province that the School 
 Lands, amounting to five hundred and forty-nine thousand, two 
 hundred and seventeen acres, be applied to the purposes for which 
 they were originally intended ; and as the several Districts arc, from 
 their extensive and rapidly increasing ^.opulation, in a state to require 
 the establishment of Free Grammar Schools, which, if suitably endowed 
 
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 and incorporated with the present District Schools, would aflford the 
 means of respectable support to a Master and two assistants in each, 
 and thereby enable the inhabitants of the colony to confer the blessing 
 of a liberal education on their children, and diA employment as 
 Masters fur such of them as may be found to have made the necessary 
 proficiency in the acquirement of classical and scientific knowledge. 
 
 We also represent to Your Majesty, that it would be much more 
 satisfactory to the people of this Province if the monies arising from 
 the School Lands were paid into the hands of the Receiver General, 
 and the fund placed at the disposal of the Legislature, instead of the 
 present arrangement ; as not only the control of the funds, but the 
 general superintendence and organization of the whole system would 
 thus be open to public inspection and approval. 
 
 We therefore humbly implore Your Majesty to place the School 
 Lands at the disposition of the Legislature of the Province, to be 
 applied exclusively for the purposes intended by Your Majesty^s 
 Royal Father. 
 
 ARCHIBALD McLEAN, 
 
 Speaker, 
 Commons House of Assembly^ 
 
 22rd day of December ^ 183L 
 
 Present — Messrs. Attorney General, Berczy, BIdwell, Chisholm, 
 Clark, Crooks, Duncombe, Elliott, A. Frazer, R. Fraser, Howard, 
 Ingersoll, Jones, Ketchum, Lewis, McCall, D. McDonald, McMartin, 
 Maqon, Morris, Mount, Perry, Randal, Robinson, Roblin, Samson, 
 Shade, Shaver, Solicitor General, Thomson, Vankoughnct, Wa:ren, 
 Werden, W. Wilson. 
 
 Mr. Morris, seconded by Mr. Thomson, moves that an humble 
 Address be presented to His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, 
 informing His Excellency that this House has passed an Address to 
 His Majesty on the subject of the Civ'^rgy Reserves, and also an 
 Address relative to the School Lands, and requesting His Excellency 
 to transmit the same to His Mnjesty — and that Messrs. Samson and 
 Cook be a Committee to draft and report tae said Address, 
 
 Or'';ered. 
 
 Mr. Samaon, iroxti the Committee (d draft an Address to His 
 Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, requesting His Excellency to 
 
 
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 transmit the Address to His Majesty on the subjects of Clergy Re- 
 serves and School Lands, presented a draft, which was received and 
 read twice, concurred in, and ordered to be engrossed and read a 
 third time this day. 
 
 Monday, 26th December y 1831. 
 
 Mt. Samson, from the Select Committee to wait upon His Ex- 
 reUency the Lieutenant Governor to know when he wouUl be pleased 
 to receive this House wiih their Address requesting His Excellency 
 to transmit the Addresses to His Miijesty on the s ibject of the Clergy 
 Reserves and Scluwl Lands, reported that His Excellency had been 
 pleased to name the hour of 10, A. M., to-morrow. 
 
 J. Cor.BORNE. 
 
 l'^ ti mittlng the accompanying memorials and correspondence, 
 in ^ uh...Miice with on Address from the House of Assembly, the 
 Lieutenant Governor acquaints the House, that from the Documents 
 in his possession it appears that in compliance with an Address to 
 the King from the Legislative Council and House of Assembly, in the 
 year 1797, praying that a certain portion of the waste lands of the 
 Crown might be appropriated for tiie establishment and support of a 
 Grammar School in each District, and also a College or University 
 for the instruction of youth in the dilferent branches of liberal know- 
 ledge, the Secretary of State for the Colonies expressed His Majesty's 
 intention to comply with the wishes of the Legislature in such a man- 
 ner ns should be v- Ij^ed most etfectual, — First, by the establishment 
 of Free Gramr : ';'\ools in the Districts in which they were called 
 for, and in due r > ;, Ky establishing other seminaries of a larger and 
 iTiore comprehens:! o ...I'ure, for the promotion of religious and moral 
 learning, and the ^tud) of the arts and sciences — and directed that the 
 Executive Council and Law Omccrs should be consulted on this 
 subject. 
 
 In consequence ( f these instructions, the Local Government, in 
 1798, recommended 12 townships to he set apart for the purposes of 
 education, about 549,217 acres, and it appears that none of tho 
 Reserves \ < i'^ alienated till the year 1823, when Lord Bathurst au- 
 thorized a Gcuerai Board of Education to be formed, and a portion of 
 the Reserves to be applied under the management of the Board to- 
 wards rai^'ng a fund for the establishment of Township Schools. 
 
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 III the year 1827, His Majesty's Government ordered 255,273 acres 
 of the lands originally set apart for the purposes of education, to be 
 transferred to the Crown in lieu of the leavsed Crown Reserves granted 
 to the University as an endowment for that institution — and lately, 
 06,000 acres have been set apart for the support of Upper Canada 
 College and Royal Grammar School, and for the purpose of raising a 
 fund from which the advances mado to establish that seminary by the 
 University Council and by the Board of Education, may be repaid. 
 
 Government House ^ 
 
 24th Decemherj 1831. 
 
 Thursday^ Sth November, 1832. 
 Mr. Morris gives notice, >>■ h^i will to-morrow move for an 
 Address to His Excellency the L Governor, requesting His Ex- 
 cellency to inform this House, v/l; >. quantity of the School Lands 
 Reservation has been sold, what quantity is now remaining at the 
 disposition of the Legislature, shewing in what Districts and Town- 
 ships the same are situated. 
 
 Friday, Nov. 9, 1832. 
 
 J. CoLBORNE. 
 
 The Lieutenant Governor transmits to the House of Assembly, a 
 copy of a Despatch from His Majesty's Principal Secretary of State 
 for the Colonies, on the subject of the Address of the House to the 
 King respecting the proceeds of the sale of lands set apart for the 
 support of schools. 
 
 Government House, 
 
 November, dth 1832. 
 
 (Copy.) No. 83. 
 
 Downing Street, London, 
 
 5th July, 1832. 
 
 Sir, 
 
 I have had the honor of receiving, and laying before His Majesty, 
 your despatch of the 13th February last, enclosing an Address from 
 the Assembly of Upper Canada, pniying that the " School Lands 
 within the Province may be applied to the purposes for which they 
 were originally intended," and further representing that it would bo 
 much more satisfactory to the people of the Province, if the monies 
 arising from the School Lands were paid into the hands of the Re- 
 ceiver General, and the fund placed at the disposal of the Legislature. 
 
 
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 I liave received His Majesty's commands to direct you to inform 
 the Assembly, at their next meeting, that He has been graciously 
 pleased to accede to their request, and that the sums arising from the 
 sale of that portion of the School Lands which has not already been 
 alienated, will be paid into the hands wf the Receiver General, to be 
 applied in the promotion of Education in such manner as the Legisla- 
 ture may direct. 
 
 I have, &c. 
 
 GODERICH. 
 Maj. Gen. Sir John Colborne, K.CB. 
 
 Wednesday ^ Wth November^ 1832. 
 
 Agreeably to notice, Mr. Morris, seconded by Mr. Buell, moves 
 that an Address be presented to His Excellency the Lieut. Governor, 
 requesting that His Excellency may be pleased to ' iy before this 
 House a statement of the number of acres of School Lands which 
 have been alienated, and the number remaining ; and to inform this 
 House in what Districts and Townships they are situated. 
 
 In amendment, Mr. Bukwell, seconded by Mr. William Wil- 
 son, moves, that after the word " situated" in the original motion, the 
 following be added — " And also a statement of the number of acres of 
 land which have been granted by His Majesty's Government to indi- 
 viduals, in the School Townships of Southwold, Yarmouth, Hough- 
 ton, Middleton, Westminster, and Blandford, — shewina; also the 
 number of acies which have been granted in each of said townships 
 to surveyors, in compensation for surv^oying ; and an account of the 
 quantity and situation of such lands as may have been set apart by 
 His Majesty's Government for School Reserves, in lieu of the lands 
 granted in the said Townships. 
 
 Mr. BuRWELL, seconded by Mr. W. Wilsox, moves that Messrs. 
 Jolm Wilson and Boulton be a Committee to draft an Address to His 
 Excellency the Lieutenant Governor in pursuance of the resolution 
 of tliis House on the subject of School Lands. 
 
 Ordered. 
 
 Mr. JoHX Wilsox, from the Select Committee to draft an Address 
 to His Excellency the Lieut. Governor, foi- information relative to 
 School Lands, reported n draft, which was received, read twice, con- 
 curred in, and ordered, engrossed, and to be read a third time to- 
 morrow. 
 
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 Thursday, \3th November, 1832. 
 Agreeably to the order of the day, the Address to His Excellency 
 the Lieutenant Governor, requesting information relative to the School 
 Lands, was read a third time, passed, and signed, and is as follows : 
 To His Excellency Sir John Colbonio, K.C.B., Lieu- 
 tenant Governor of the Province of Upper Canada, 
 and Major General Commanding His Majesty's 
 Forces therein, &c. &c. 
 May it please Your Excellency, 
 
 We, His Majesty's dutiful and loyal subjects, the Commons House 
 of Assembly of Upper Canada, in Provincial Parliament assembled, 
 most humbly beg leave to request, that Your Excellency will be 
 pleased to direct the proper officer to inform this House, what quan- 
 tity of the School Lands reservation has been alienated, and what 
 quantity is now remaining at the disposition of ihe Legislature, shew- 
 ing in what districts and townships the same may be situated, — and 
 to lay before this House a statement of the number of acres of land 
 which have been granted by His Majesty's Government to individuals 
 in the School Townships of Southwold, Yarmouth, Houghton, Mid- 
 dle.on, Westminster, and Blandford, — showing also the number of 
 acres which have been granted in each of said Townships to surveyors 
 in compensation for surveying ; and an account of the quantity and 
 situation of such lands as may have been set apart by His Majesty's 
 Government for School Reserves iu lieu of the lanils granted in the 
 said townships. 
 
 ARCHIBALD McLEAN, 
 
 Speaker. 
 Commons House of Assemhlif, 
 Nov. 15, 1832. 
 
 (Copy.) 
 
 J. COLBORNE. 
 
 The Lieutenant Governor, with reference to tlic Address of tho 
 House of Assembly of the 15th November, transmits the accompany- 
 ing communication from the Secretary of the Board of Education and 
 Returns from the Surveyor General ; shewing (he number of acres of 
 the Crown Lands which were set apart originally by the Executive 
 Government, for the establishment and support of Grammar Schools 
 and Collkjges, in conformity to instructions received from His Majes- 
 ty's Secretary of State for the Colonies. 
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 Copy of Letter from George H. Markland^ Esquiie^ Secretary 
 to the General Board of Education. 
 
 14th December, 1832. 
 Sir, 
 
 From the accompanying documents, which have been prepared for 
 the information of His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor, it will 
 appear, that the original reservation of land for the purposes of Edu- 
 cation amounted to 467,675 acres, of which 170,719 acres were 
 alienated by grants to individuals, and in lieu thereof 272,600 acres 
 were appropriated to a similar purpose — giving a surplus over and 
 above the quantity deficient of 101,881 acres. There were also 
 alienated, as a per centage to Surveyors, 19,282 acres. 
 
 Since the reservation before alluded to, 225,944 acres of it have 
 been re-Invested in the Trox. n, in lieu of scattered Reserves, granted 
 as an endowment to the University of Kind's College, and 60,000 
 acres have been set apart for the benefit of Upper Canada College ; 
 after which deduction there remains at the disposal of such person 
 or persons as may be appointed for the sale thereof, 258,330 acres. 
 
 I have the honor to be, &c., 
 
 GEO. H. MARKLAND. 
 Lt. Col. Rowan, 
 &c. &c. &c. 
 
 Copy of Letter from S. P. Hurdy Esq.., Surveyor General. 
 
 Surveyor GeneraPs Office^ 
 
 York, mhbec, 1832. 
 Sir, 
 
 In obedience to the commands of His Excellency the Lieutenant 
 Governor, to furnish a statement of the School Ljinds, agreeably to 
 the Address of the House of Assembly, — I have the honor herewith 
 to transmit to you a Return of the School Land«, shewing the original 
 townships reserved, the number of acres alienated, the lands appro- 
 priated in lieu thereof, the Surveyors' per centage, the number of 
 acres set apart for Upper Canada College, and the quantity which 
 remains disposable. 
 
 I have the honor to be, 
 
 &c. &c., 
 S. P. IIURD, S. G. 
 To Lieut. Col. Rowan, 
 
 Secretary to His Excv. the Lt. Gov. 
 &c. &c. 
 
46 
 
 ACRES. 
 
 The original School Townships of Alfred, Plan- 
 tagenet, Bedford, Hinchinbroke, Sheffield, 
 Seymour, Blandford, Houghton, Middleton, 
 South wold, Westminster, and Yarmouth, were 
 computed at 549,216 acres, but actually con- 
 tained 467,675 
 
 Alienated from the above, for Surveyors' per 
 
 centage.... 19,282 
 
 Alienated by grants to individuals •.... 170,719 
 
 The Townships of Java, Luther, Sunnidale, Os- 
 prey, Merlin and Proton, made School Town- 
 ships in lieu of the above alienations, contain. 272,000 
 
 Also reserved in Township of Warwick. ...... 600 
 
 740.275 
 Re-invested in Crown, in lieu of lands granted 
 
 to the University 225,944 
 
 Re-invested in Crown, in lieu of lands granted to 
 
 U. C. College 66,000 
 
 481,945 
 
 School Lands, Disposable acres, 258,330 
 
 S. P. KURD. 
 
 Memorandum o{ Lands granted to the Upper 
 
 Canada College 66,000 acres. 
 
 25,000 acres in Seymour. 
 
 18,969 acres in scattered lots, for which a like quantity is re- 
 invested in the Crown in the township of Seymour, 
 5,000 acres in the township of Blandford. 
 12,000 do. do. of Java. 
 
 5,031 do. in scattered lots, for which a like quantity is re- 
 invested in the Crown in the township of Merlin. 
 
 66,000 acres. 
 
 Memorandum of Lands granted to the University 
 unfler Patent Deed 225,944 acres. 
 
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 46 
 
 Memorandum of Lands alienated to Individuals : 
 
 25,140 acres in the Township of Alfred. 
 
 40,000 do do Plantagenet. 
 
 2,680 do do Bedford. 
 
 22,600 do do Hougiiton. 
 
 30,900 do do Middleton. 
 
 40,725 do do Southwold. 
 
 40,725 do do Westminster, 
 
 7,0S4 do do. ......Yarmouth. 
 
 Alienated in these 
 five Townships: — 
 102,906 acres. 
 
 170,726 acres. 
 
 Memorandum : 
 
 Alfred and Plantagenet were thrown open for general location under 
 Governor Gore, containing ahout 65,000 acres, which amount is in- 
 cluded in the 170,719 alluded to, leaving 105,719 which have been 
 taken from the original School Townships. 
 
 University 225,9'14 
 
 U. C. College 66,000 
 
 Acres 291,944 
 
 Original intention 549,2 1 7 
 
 Deduct , 291,944 
 
 Acres 257,273 
 
 APPENDIX. 
 
 Monday^ \Sth June^ 1798. 
 Prayers were read. 
 
 The Proceedings of Saturday last "were read. 
 
 Mr. Solicitor General in his place informed the House, that His 
 Honor the President had given to him in charge a written Message 
 communicating to the House His Majesty\ Most Gracious Pleasure 
 respecting the Address of the two Houses of the Parliament of this 
 Province to His Majesty during the last Session relative to the Esta- 
 blishment of Grammar Schools and an University in this Province ; 
 which being delivered to Mr. Speaker and he and the House standing 
 up uncovered the same was read by Mr. Speaker in the following 
 words, to wit : 
 
 A Message from the President to the Honorable the Legislative 
 Council and the House of Assembly. 
 
 Peter Russell, President. 
 
 The President has great satisfaction in being authorized to com- 
 municate to the Legislative Council and House of Assembly that 
 His Majesty has been graciously pleased to take into His Royal Con- 
 
47 
 
 jgislative 
 
 [1 to com- 
 mbly that 
 )yal Con- 
 
 s'ulcration their Petition humbly imploring His Miijcsty that he would 
 be graciously pleased to direct His Government in this Province to 
 appropriate a certain portion of the Waste Lands of the Crown as a 
 fund for the Estahlishment and Support of a respectable Grammar 
 Scho')l in each District thereof, and also of a College or University 
 fur the Instruction of Youth in the different Branches of liberal know- 
 lodge : and being always ready to shew his Paternal regard for the 
 welfare of His Subjects in the furtherance of so important an Object 
 OS the Instruction of Youth, and to assist and encournge the Exertions 
 of His Province in laying the foundation for promoting sound Learn- 
 ing and a Religious Education, he has condescended to express His 
 Most gracious Intention to comply witu the wishes of the Legislature 
 of His Province of Upper Canada in such mimner as shall be judged 
 most effectual, ^r«f, by the Establishment of free Grammar Schools 
 in those Districts in which they are called for, and in due process of 
 time by establishing other Seminaries of a larger and mor*^ compre- 
 hensive nature for the promotion of religious and moral Learning and 
 the study of the Arts and sciences — with this view the President is 
 directed to consult the Members of His Majesty's Executive Council 
 and the Judges and Law Officers of the Crown in Upper Canada— 
 and report to the Secretary of State in what manner and to what ex- 
 tent a portion of the Crown Lands may be appropriated and i^endered 
 -^reductive towards the formation of a fund for the above purposes 
 out of which His Majesty may, according to His Pleasure, allot such 
 Salaries as he shall judge proper for School-masters of such free 
 Schools, who are to be appointed by His Majesty's Governor or the 
 person administering the Government within the Province for the 
 time being, Subject to His Majesty's approbation signified thro' one 
 of His Principal Secretaries of State. 
 
 On the motion of Mr. Solicitor General, seconded by Mr. Robin- 
 son ; Resolved, that it is the duty of this House to vote that an Ad- 
 dress be presented to His Majesty for having been graciously pleased 
 to take into His Royal Consideration their Petition for the Establish- 
 ment of Grammar Schools in this Province. 
 
 On the motion of Mr. Solicitor General seconded by Mr. Robin- 
 son Resolved that this House do request the concurrence of the Le- 
 gislative Council in a joint Address of Tlianks to His Majesty for 
 having been graciously pleased to take into His Royal Consideration 
 their Petition for the Establishment of Grammar Schools in this Pro-^ 
 vince. 
 
 On the motion of Mr. Solicitor General seconded by Captain 
 Fraser, Ordered, that Mr. Rodgers and Mr. Beasley be a Committee 
 to communicate the preceding Resolution to the Legislative Council 
 accordingly. 
 
48 
 
 A Message from the Legislative Ci/uncil informing this Hut/.io 
 that they cuiicurrcd in the proiK)sal uf a juint Address ol' thunks to lii» 
 Majesty for l)aving been graciously pleased to take into His Royal 
 Consideration the Petition of the two Houses oi (ho Parliament of 
 this Province praying for the Establishment of Grammar Sclvuols, &c. 
 
 The Committee ap{K>inted to draft, in conference with a Commit- 
 tee of the Legislative Council, an Address to the King's Most Ex- 
 cellent Majesty for His Majesty's most Gracious Answer to the Peti- 
 tion of the Parliament of this Province respecting Grammar Schools, 
 &c., reported that they had drafted .-^n Adrhess accordingly which 
 would be sent down by Mt^^age from the Legislative Council this 
 day. 
 
 A Message from the LegKHJative Council with the said Acldrcss en- 
 grossed and signed by the Honorable the Speaker of the Legislativo 
 Council. 
 
 Mr. Speaker reac? the said Address. 
 
 On the motion o(^ Mr. Solicitor Genersil seconded by Mr. Street-— 
 Ordered, that this House do concur in the said Address. 
 
 And tlie same was signed by Mr, Speaker accordingly. 
 
 On motion of Mr. Roger secondetl by Mr. Jessup — Ordered, that 
 Mr. Solicitor General and Mr. Beasley be a Committee to inform the 
 Legislative Council that this House has concurred in the Address of 
 thanks to His Majesty for His Gracious Intentions respecting Gram- 
 mar Schools — and do return the said Address to the Legislative 
 Couricil — and further to in(()rm the Legislative Council, that this 
 House requests that they wouhl appoint a Commii^ee of their House 
 to accompiiny one from this House to wait upon Hii> Honor the Presi- 
 dent, to know when His Honor will receive ll,e two Houses with the 
 said Address. 
 
 A Message from Council with an Address to His Honor tho 
 President. 
 
 Mr. Speaker read the said Address. 
 
 On motion of Mr. Solicitor General seconded by Mr. Rogers — 
 Ordered, that the House do concur in the said Address — and the 
 same was accordingly signed by Mr. Speaker. 
 
 And then the two Houses of Parliament waited ujion His Honor the 
 President with their joint Addresses to His Majesty, and to His Honor 
 — and thereupon His Honor was pleased to address the two Houses 
 of Parliament, as follows, to wit : 
 
 Honorable Gentlemen of the Legislative Councily and Gentlemen 
 of the Assembly J 
 
 I shall take the earliest opportunity of tran'imitting your very 
 Loyal Address to I! is Majesty, 
 
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