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For myself I can truly lay that having from the outset watched erery phase of this great etrnggle with the closest interest, I have never seen aause to waver in my entire conviction of the justice of the cause of the North; nor does Dr. Neale's litter in t'.ie least exaggerate the scale of rejoicing that (in common I doubt not, with many others) I have experienced at the recent success of the Federal arms. It were well, I think, If many who jiow go with the stream of popular opinion (bccaui* it M the popular opinion), and who derive their impressions from the prliH« that seek only to reflect the public feeling, were tc read first some of the standard works that have lately issued from the press on tbii lub- Jeot. After a perusal of RuinU't Diary, Trollope and Diety't Lttkrt, Mri. Ktmblt't Rendimce in a Georgian Plantation— tkniUon, all of whom have been eye-witnesies, and on this account, and as being of known integrity aud standing in their profession, may be considered reliable,— it is probable that their opinions mi^ht undergo a coniiderable change. r J. B. H0L9. WashforJ Pyne Rectory, ) Aug. 13, 18V3. y "NORTH AND SOUTH." To the Editor of the Guardian. SIR, la the Supplement of your Issue of Aug. 18, 1 observe a short letter from the Rev. I J. E. Hole, " VVaahford Pyne Rectory" of date Aug. 13, 1863, on thtj subject of "North and South." Mr. Hull) lias thought proper to express thus publicly his sympathies with the N irth, •nd ther.fore I hope you will permit a broiher- clerjryman, from this side of the Atlantic, to exprcsa the pain, and surprise, whicii Mr. Hole's letter caut. d me. That a Clergyman of the Church of Ensr- land should feel himself ciiUei) upon to give public expression of his fympathies wiih a Government which, hy its modi; of carrying on the war of aitem|.lfd extermiiMiion it is now engaged In, has excited, and is siill ex- citing the horror and deiea'ation of all irood men who know the facts of the cnsp,— this to me, is a thing of grief tiiid mortiQcalion. I WAS for upwards of two year^, a witness «ud a victim, ()( (he atrocious tyranny niitj oppression pnicM'scd Wy tho Northern Gov- erninent ; and I huve, more than once, had my hf art miide sick win, in me, by tlie cry for blood and slai^ghter issuing from Nor'horn pulpits. But I little thouglit to hoar a similiir note struck by a priest iyppd phrase in gn.'at vogue among those who maintain 'the Just cause") 1 could not, bo suffered to remain. And I grieve to be oblig-d to add that, against this low Ivr- «.>«,» Il...,ii:..l _" I IT ^ ,. . .,-!., ,,■■!- vi iiu piutec-ion. Lpnn my Kpplyitig at the British Legation at VVHsbing- ton, I was told inoffec that I was coiui I t-ly in Ike power of " the just c use," and that no security could be given me, nor any steps token ia my cue, until I iUoi;aa bo s«nt to Pyne" $ fort Warren, or Port LaPayette, or somo other deleotabla receptacle for "rebels" ajjaiiiBt the mild aw»y of "Northern jmtico." la point of fact, it was a most sigoal Provi- dence wliich opened a door fir me in Canada, or I, aod my Utile lielpless family might have been driveu away from our home, and exposed .0 absolute priva'iou and want. This would nevitably have been the result of our bein" lent within the So , them lines, where (thank* the "just cause") every article of food and ;lothing would be utterly bByond the m»an3 )f one whose sola 8upp.)rt was derived from 'je ccugrngation from wliich he was thus hreatened to be violently severed. Woidl he rector ol " W^shford Pyne" like to furnish wh aa iliusiration of '• Northera justice" in lis own proper person? Further, I have !ouu been deprived of my looks anl furniiure— not miny, nor much, JUt myall. They hiive b»en shut up in tlio ci'y of , Virpriaiii, wliere, a' the breik- og out of ih'Sided as iocumbont of — church, (in whiit I (Ure say the reclorot " Wa3hf)rd Pyne" would Cill a culpable if not immoral) connexion with tluit ' reb 1" body, tlie Pro- tes Hni Epiacopul Church in the Uoutbderate States of America. Now "the just cauit;' whl permit noihiug to bo rcinoVrtil from thtnce by any one except such as have taken the oath of allegiance : aiul si ic.;, if I knoiv niyni'lr; I would not tfiko that, oa^h to save my lif.-, m icli less my books, tJieae litior mity bt; siif'ly ros:a'iled aj in Jer)|>iirly. It might be iliouKhl that a a'itish sul j jot could clami liHg')ods atul chattels; li'it, my experi- ence (if tlif protection air ird -d to her Miijes'y s liUBu Miibj cts by her d"puties williia the juris lie i m of " Northern justic;' (riycs mj huh' iKMrt t) apply. N.jw I coul I iilmoH wish that Ihe almitati.u of the rector of " Wash- ford Pyn !''f )r "the just cans ;" wjre s ibjoctod to Some such test astlii-. Ho^v vouldne liki to hive his easy cliair^ and Ids -springy lotanges, and hisdo^vny beds, and his mui;h piized foliiia, and his yaliifd q'lartos, and hi< DBwest o.tavos, and duodecimos— iiot to talk of the elf (1 18 .(f his privat" u;piiius--8hut up within the brisi'iag linos of Yink-e b lyonets? 1 fmcv it would bo an exptrinentum crucii which w mid " put anew song ia Ids mouili." 1 have dwell thus long (in my p^rsoLal experi. nc", a^ I cincLivn it lo be a kind of arguinentuin ad homineiu which the r ctor of " WHHiilord PyD«" cannot fail to Miipn-ciate. But my eXDHii nco is not only personal. From the date ot the burning of the navy yard ut N ixfidk, on the mnetien'h of April, 1861, to wliido Biz weeks of ili.; present date, . was H close observer of the conduct of iha war in Virginia. May ! not thereforr claim to be u better juJiie of «' The jU8,tice ot ih« ctuse of the North" than Mr. Hole «/ against such justice ? If attemiiiini? tofirceago/ernm-nt which in the estimation of ei«ht mdlions of hninaa beings, is ih • most odi us and datestable the world has ever known— if /Ai» beconci'ded to _' The jusiic) .)f the cause (if the North," tlieo in the nam>^ of ell that is fair, liberal, honora- ble and ritfhteoua, I ask Mr. Hole to define his idea of " a jisi cause." Has he forRoitcn that the N irh tn Government Mself stHnds (or used to stanJ, u itil Abraham Lincoln, 'nid his minion-, established their low. lud crushing tyranny) upon the wji: yf the governed? Dies he not know tlia' It was upon this very ground that their beast'ul claim Was (oiiiulwl . f being " the beit gown' menl on earth? And does he not perceive thu gluring inconsistency of n'tenipiiiig to force a governiuent ot this kind upon a people who spurn it wiMi contempt a: d abliorianci? Nay, docs he not perceive tho atrucitv of endt;avouring to compass tli.ir eiuls by lire, find sword, and carnage ? Shame, up„n the j'lsliceloviMg lOn.'lisliiniii who tilks mfitleJ hosts of Pope, and himself At the hetid of the retrnai; mn'Mng good, for once at least, his boastful a^sei'iiou that his " Headquarters were in the ioddle''; and oy an igDorainijus flight from Wincliestcr, the brutal and iohuaan Milroy freed Yirginia from his hat*"*! presence. But Mr. Holt) will probably object that such abuses are iiiseperablft from war. Not sj. Let hi'n r.ad the procLiimitions of Oliver Cromwjil, for instance (a mun whom English churc!imeD hnv ' small cause to admire, or »o txpcjl rtny good fr.)ra), aid he will see that the puniahmenf of rfca/A was threatened (and those who know thi' cMarhcVr of the man e»niiot doubt that it was inflicted) agf'inst any n to which " Thft greatest nation on earth" claims to have attaiaed. I have known of an old man of eighty and nine years being drngged from his home, and hurried along in an army waggon for some fifty or sixty mi es, until at last worn out i^atiiro gava w»y to fatigue and exposure, •i>d the old man lay down aDout the morality of x\\i, reverend officials of '.hat North with which he sympa* thiz '8. All a preface to this aubj -ct, lei me rtjfer him to «corM of serm us preached in Episcopal pulpits at the North, and regarded as choice evidences of patriotism, in which • spirit or viryce against the iSnuth, redolent of the fume) oi hell, is openly and unblush- ingly announced. I might piint him to worthins of tfap cloth who have proclaimed in iheeara oft heir admi- ring audience that ' The tin of the rebellion hae no parallel tave i\ the $in of ;he fallen angeh:' I might remini him of those who have pro- faned tbe housg of (Jod, and uttered the most horrid blaspaemie^ in His namo— telling their deluded hearers that '*to dit in the cause of the Union, would be a sure and certain passport tohfaven" I a.lgtt remind him how tnose reverend wortUies call it their glory to " Cry havoc and let s/ip the dog* of wnf." To hound ou their brutal and ruffian packs in their work r,{ blood; and to promise them, in the nam^i of God, tbat the more SouUiera homes th'jy lay waste— the mme smoking ruins they leave in tlieir tiack-the more widow's moans, and tbe more nr|)haii's cries they occasion- (Ae more rebel blool tbe> shed —the brighter will be their crown of endless gliirvl Bat let me mention instances of Northern clerical morality which oamu under my per- sonal knowledge and observaiioii. I have known ai> army chaplain to borrow a robe belonging to the vestry mom of Christ Church, Alexandria,— " for a few hours," aa he said, and never to return it I have known another chapUin (in tnis case how- ever, I think the reverend man was not an Bpiacopalian) to fib his trunks from tbe shelves of a private library, the owner, of course, being a 'Tebel " I have known still another, (•' Horriaco reforens"!) upon whose head Episcopal hHnds were laid, to be openly accused of drunkenness in th" public streets, and of consorting with harl>its, and to be unable to repel tne charge, but at ihe same time, to retain hi^ post secum a.ainst disci- pline civil, military, or eccli siasiical. Much IS my personal kuiiwi>-dge of the moraUty of the North- that N inh for '" the JusMce of the cause" of \«lt!('!i, an English beneficed elereyman "foiluwug in the wako of" another, thinks proper to < uuU up. Aod^ u Oud is my wiia^ss, twelve atontU'i te«i> '' ,. ? Is, or litter^ the fear that a order Tor ; and with* ?ro»« where ippresaor." [lad to bear tue, rtterend ) lie 8yaipa< )j '01, let ma J reached ia id resrardefl , in which • lib, redoleot td unblush- 'if 'he cloth r their ad mi. rebellion ha» lien angel*.'* lo have pro- 'ed tbu most tnlling their thi oiune of ut'n passport how tDoae iry 10 f war." uffiiD paciia }inise them, tt Boutliera le smoliiag —the morn I thill's cries > t tbe> shed a of eudlesa of Northern der my per- III. I liavfl rrow a robe . uf Christ f hoars," aa it I have I case bow- was not aa 3 from the e owner, of known still upon whose lo be openly ibiic streets, , and to be at I he Slime .juinst disci- ical. •-dge of the ih for " the aa English in the wake d up. Aod^ I «. ;..'\ce in'the Coiirederacy, foU'o^itts twelve gtar'i reeidence ih Virginia, hnt^t furnished me with no evidence of this kind,- ilor of any- thing like it. Somt profanity, it is true, 1 beatrd of, and witnessed, among; the soldiers. But, im- morality am ing the ofiSodrs, in my experience, was rare, among the chaplains, unJcnoton. Those of the officers whom I kn -k^ were gen- tUmtn ; those of the chaplaias. hard-workinur. God-fearing, earnest men, zealous, and untir- ing in the cause of their Master. > Now is it not somewhat stratage that " the }tut cause" affords no hap,-)ier illustrations - or at least is very fertile of such a6 I have men- tioned, while (what I must su^ipose Mr. Hole regards as) the rrbellious and inlMmous South may claim AjiM rack among Vhe recognited nations of the earth, not only for able States- men, and Generals— speaking from a mere worldly point of view— but also for men who professedly act with the fear of the Almighty God before thejr eyes, and With a constant Appeal to His Justioi? The rector of ''Washford P^e" will under. Stand that hi) short Intter is not regarded by me as of salBcieot importance to call for Ibis long reply, were it not that I wish to avail myielf of this mode of appealing to the houor and good feeline ot English churchmen, in be- half of a^reaily oppressed and much suffering Spop'e. Glad in heart am 1 to infer, from [r. Hole's letter, that, although the Englisfh Clergy may not be "unanimouely on the side of the South," yet iht-y are so neirly boss to tall for Am imlividual protest. I'oulypray, from my s ol, that that protest muy prove of small avail in gaining converts ti> his ** just cause." And I pray further fir his own speedy conversion to the side of the noble South : wliich conversion I would injure, for a small am arit, were he to be subjected, even for a brief space, to the irresponsible atrocities ot the p ople be admires, under the ausiiices of a Pope, a Milroy, a Burn^ide, or a Uutler. Finally, I wage of If r. Neale's letter wb'oh I cannot permit to pass without comment, llis that in which he quotes from somi! Col. Gstvan "u soldier of fortune," and, as tuch of course, worthy ot all credit. Tills Col. Estvan a-serts that the Churches in Richmond were withheld from being used as liospitalH for OonfoderatCKoldiers, and that the Oleraymen of wh it Mr. Neale facetiously calls Mr. Hope's "b«'loved Southern Church," were shameiully and brutally negligent of ttie wants and comforts oi the wounded and dying men. Now this' 1 nounre to be tnf«nM/y and u««r/y^ false. Aad 1 call upon yon, in com- mon justice, to permit me to correct the misstattfinent. I am intimately aciu- 'nfed with the city of Richmond, and with ivery Bpi'copal Okigv- man therein. I whs in the city only a sliori six weeks before the ninhslroas retreat