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Ordered, That the Committee have power to send for Persons, Papers and Records Ordered, That Five be the Quorum of the Committee. Martis, 4' die Marlii, 1 834. Ordered, That Colonel Maberly be excused from further attendance on the Com- mittee. Ordered, That Lord John Russell be added to the Committee. Luncr, 1 6° die Junii, 1 834. Ordered That Mr. Secretary Rice be added to the Committee. Mercurii, (^' Augusti, 1 834. Ordered, That the Committee have power to report their Opinion, together with the Minutes of the Evidence taken before them. REPORT . p. iii. MINUTES OF EVIDENCE p. 1. APPENDIX ,, I , «j^ Colonies of Gibraltar, Malta, the Ionian sands the Western Coast of Africa, the Cape of Good Hope, and the rsiand ot Ceylon ; and have agreed to submit to The House the following Resolutions, together with the Evidence on which they are founrled : 1. Resolved, That it is not the Intention of this Con.mittee, by any suggestion which it may oiK-r as to the Amount of Force deemed to be ■siiffie.ent lor the Garrison of any Colony in time of Peace, to relieve the Executive Government from the Duty which constitutionally belongs to It, ot provuhng, on the responsibility of tl.. King's Ministers, a Force suthc.ent tor the Security of H,s Majesty's Possessions abroad, which Experience has prove.l is liable to vary in time of Peace, according to several contingencies arising out of internal or external causes. 2. Resolved That the Committee are of Opinion, That the strictest Economy should be observed in every branch of the Mililary Exnen Uiture of the Colonies ;an.l that any surplus Revenue that may remain a her detraying the.r Civil Expenses, should, in accordance with the Regulations which have been adopte the Opinion of this Committee, That when the Military Defences of Corfu shall be completed, the present Amount of Force in the Ionian Islands may be diminished by one Battalion ; which, under existing circumstances, would leave a Garrison sufficient during Peace for those Islands. 10. Resohed, That the OfHces of Lord High Commissioner and Commander of the Forces in the Ionian Islands should be united, except where special circumstances may warrant a deviation from this prin- ciple. 11. That when the Cilices of Lord High Commissioner and Com- mander of the Forces are united, the Militarv Stati' should consist of the following Officers : One Aide-de-Camp for the Commander of the Forces; one Colonel on the Staft', with one Aide-de-Camp: one Deputy Quartermaster-general ; one Assistant Military Secretary ; one Brigade Major. I'J. Resohed, TiWT the attention of the Government be directed to the present state of the Commissariat Establish nenl in the Ionian Islands, with a view to its Rediiciioii as I'ar as the Pulilic Service will admit. 13. Resohed, That it is expedient, in order to bring under the more efleetiial control of Parliament tiie Military Expeiiditiire of the Ionian Islands, as defrayed by the Hiiti-li CJov.rnnieiH. that all liic Charges for thai Expenditure should l.r included in tlic Annual Est imales, ''credit being taken for the (ixrd aiiioiint coiilnb.itcd iiv the biiiiaii l-laiids. \l. Hefolvcd, prin- ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS, COLONIES. v 14. Uesohrd, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That it is not expedient to make any Reduction in the Amount of Force employed in His Majesty's Possessions in Western Africa. 15. Resolved, That it appears to this Committee, Tliat a Rcdiiction may he made in the Ordnance, Store and Barrack Departments, at Sierra Leone. 16. lleaotvcd. That the Evidence taken befon; this Committee, by which it is stated that a further considerable Reduction may Ih- <'ll(cled by the Consolidation of the Naval, Victualling and Commissariat De|)art- nients at Sierra Leone, is entitled to the immediate and serious attention of the Government. 17- Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, Thai as the Military Force maintained at the Cape has been reduced since IMHi from 4,032 to 1,77H rank and file; and as an alteration of Law is in contemplation, by which the System of the Defence of the Frontiers will be conducted on new Principles; it is not expedient that any Reduction •should take place in the Amount of Force employed at the Cape, further than the application to that Force of the proposed Reduction of six. Men per Company. 18. Resolved, That it appears to this Committee, from the Evidence; brought before them, that a Reduction of one Staff Officer may hereafter be made at the Cape, without detriment to the Public Service. 19- Resolved, That although it has been suggested in Evidence that a Reduction may be made in the Barrack Department of one Barrack- master, it appears to this Committee, from an Ordnance Minutj of the date of the lyth August 18;jJ, that an immediate Reduction of the. Bar- rack-master at Port Elizabeth would occasion an increased Expenditure of 12/. 18. v. 3d., in consequence of the Retired Allowiuice to which he would be entitled, and the pay of a Barrack Sergeant ; whereas, by carrying into effect the intentions of the Master-general and Board of Ordnance, a future annual Saving of 82 /. 2 ,s. () d. will be effected. 20. Resolved, That inasmuch as it appears that the Military Force in the Islaixl of Ceylon has been reduced from (),1()9 rank and file, tin; Amount of the Garrison ill 181(), to 3,732 on the 1st Diceniber 18.'3.'], and as the jiossil)ility of making a further Rt.'duetioii is now under the consideration of the Government, it is not necessary for this Committee to express any Opinion on the subject, although it has beon suggested by .some of the Witnesses examined before them that a Reduction of one Battalion may be made, 21. Resolved, That it appears to this Committee, That the Services of the Junior Staff in the Adiutanl-general's Department may be dis- pensed with. •"iTO. ii3 22. Resolved, vi REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE ;;• ^ f"^--'^' '"-^ 't "PP-'- 'o ,h,s Commm.... Tl.at by entrusting o ho O, K-...- who ,.s ,s..nt out a. C.vl .<„,.„.„, ,, p.^^J-^^ ^^ ^ ntu..s of th.. Q..artern.u.ster-g..nnals Dc.partn.ent, an O.lieer in t Dcpartniiiil may hi ndiiird. 'i3. /i..s«/m/, That, adverting to the Returns of the ,s..nurate Station- wh.ch have been laid before this Co.nnttee, it appear. H. t th^V ^ of those Stat.ons .nay be reduce.l = and that a .-orrespon.hn, Ked may be nu.de n, the Sala.i.. and Allowances of the Odieers nnploy'd Vour (.mnnttee beg „. coneh^.on, to reoonnn...! that the Innu.rv Cot 7 'T '''''' ■""' ^•^^"^''••^'""-•^ "^- ='11 the remaimng Colorne. and f epend..ne,e.s of the Crown, n.ay be resun.ed wuh as littlt 3 Mai til, iH'dic Muitii, 1834: SirWilliaii Pyni, K.f.ii. p. 17 James Meek, Ks(j. ... p. 20 Robert William Hay, Esq. p. 27 Lieut.-colonel Geor<;e JuJd Harding p. 28 Miiiiis, 2 J" (/if Apri/is, 1834: Colonel Sir George Whitraore P- 30 Mr. William Gumming . - - p. 36 Jovis, 24" AV April's, 1834 : Captain William Henry ''enny P-39 James Meek, Esq. - - . - p. 41 Sir Hicliard Flasket ... P.4O Captain Henry French ... P-47 Veneris, 2,V die Aprilis, 1834 : Captain Henry Frencli - . . P-4!) Colonel Charles Napier ... p. 50 Murtis, <2[)' die Aprilis, 1834: Colonel Charles Napier - SirJosepli Rudsdell Jovts, x'die Mali, 1834: Sir Joseph Rudsdell Vi7(t'r/s, I" die Mail, 1834 : l?obert William Hay, Esq. Colonel A. Maberly, m.i'. - P- .55 I - p. 60 I p. G4 p. U8 P-74 Mart is, 6" die Mail, 1 834 : Robert Wil'iam Hay, Esq. - Colonel Findlay .... Jovit, 8" die Maii, 1834 : Robert William Hay, Esq. - Captain William Hcn'-y Blenkarne Marlis, 13" die Maii, 1834 : Robert William Hay, I'^sq. . General the Hon. Sir Lowry Cole - Martis, 3' die Junii, 1834 : Colonel John Bell ... Veneris, 1 3° die Junii, 1 834 : Mr. Robert Dyce ... Martis, l-^" die. Junii, 1834; General the Hon. Sir Lowry Cole - John Irvine, Esq. ... Sir Kufane Donkin, m.i>. Jovis, 19" die Junii, 1834 : Assistant Commissary-general John Irvine - - . - . Luntc, 23° die Junii, 1834 : Robert William Hay, i;sq. - Captain Henry Holyoako Veneris, 27" die Junii, 1834 : Lieut..general Sir Hudson Lowe, K.C.ll. - . - . . Martis, 1° die Julii, 1834 : Captain Alexander lirown p 70 p- «3 p 88 p- ur, p- 97 p- 104 p. 11.1 p. 1 1 8 p. 122 p. 124 p. 1 24 p. 127 p. I 2(, P- '3.0 P- '3') p. 149 Veneris, 4" die Jii/ii, 1834 : ('aptain Gascoyne - P- 153 Menurii. 0° die Julii, 1834 Robert William Hay, Esq. . Mr. Henry TuHhell p. 1(7 P- '73 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE. ■ I'- 7'i |). 11.1 p. 12 2 |). 124 p. 12; !'• '3') !•• 149 !'• 15;} p. 1(7 V- '73 Mar lis, IV die Martii, 1834. LORD VISCOUNT EHIUNGTON, IN THE CHAIR. Robert miliam Har,, Es,,. culled in ; and Examined. 1. YOU urc Under Secretary of State for the Colonics ?-I an, .tatn n, ,.1 ..illbrent pos^S:,^'^ ^ ^"^1:7^ " '"^ ^""""^'^^ ""^ ""^ £;l?^u s,.^e:xiirof;i:7r ••"- •-"-;"' -.^o^'s «llovva„ce^ho.eof the tuS , Ku" isi ^'"-■.''^'"'"■^ "^ »->• '^n<' at the same time. I,y reterence t tlu \ v F. . ' T ''"'"^ "l''*'' '" "t't"in : from the colony. I dL say tluu s l| i e L < Tr T^ /° *"'"'"^'"' statements cular point, which relate to tL ahn^ , /• ? ^^ '''' ^^ with respect to the orticcr o 11.^^,;, ' taS 7:"'" "!'' '"-•"'^■"«"'-«<'vcT.ior: |.recision. hnt the llctnrn uill, 1 d reTJ ,^ f^.M '• "' f'^'" "'''' '*"•"'-•'■'■"' thongh it hu.l not arrived -.vhcn I u'ft Kv.t '^tl'm "'"' '" '" ""'"' "'' ^'"^ ''"^ C.^;ar:--C^a;n;^L:r;^ "^ ^"^^"vc W in now transferred .0 t^ Ii^^^S^Sn ri'V'"!' l^'"" ";--■•*>> '"^ garrisons, Army Estimates. " allouancv's tor distinjr,nshed «erviccs ; p.,g,. 68, 7- Is he not also colonel of the 4th foot?- -He is xi^^^^Z^I:^:^^ --. .'.at no Km^s special leave tut colonj ?— He is absent on the .r',;;,'!;,V^,:.Ut'.;:",S.r,,:;»;;|,"'»' ■-sci..'-M.i,",l;;,„,„.,,.„3,„,, l.»n „,|,|,,„c,l ll,: ,J „ , I t"„l. r ! ""'J'"'. "'"' »'"™ ""■■ ■> l»" "l"»v. thordcc',,,,, lH.c.„ ,,„,;;!;, ' '" 'l'"" ""'l'" "'= 'l">"'» <" l^s "ffice,„,„l i, ,,;„ ontiiestatr. '^ ^'loniai ic\tnne, he is also a lieu»eiiant-geiicral '4-. Can you procure .1 Hcturn of his C'ertainlv allowances for the Committee?— Robert If'ni. E' the governor'.^ absence the lieutenaiit-iiovernor received, in addition to tlie above pav, tlie pay of the officer commanding the garri.son, 3,500 /., makin<: togtilier, 4,31 \l. \ -; ,v. • "(he governor rtmuiniiig in the receipt of lii.s salary of 2,800/. in addition it is' pre- sumens I have ve ah'eady -governor ? iieuteiiant- liave any Re|)ort ? — discussion intment, if t, because resnit this ibraltar on i held the y as coni- d- ; total, ntl fuel, of ieiitonant- )rdinarics, fjoveinor'.i tlie |)ay of a .V- ; 'tile it is pre- ics. Tlie governor, , 711/.; I Cioveni ^r should ces uliat- r (iiorge be ol tlie luring the •y 300/.; II lions- ;ovi;rnor's whether a ■governor loiMiiices, 30. 'I'lie ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONiES. 3 30. The lieutenant-governor, who receives these emoluments, is, in point of R^btn /f „ w^ fact, doing the duty ot governor ?--Ye8. v ^ ^^ tuotrtttm. Ha^ 31. He is exposed to all the expenses that a governor would be exposed to?— No ; I should say not. 32. If the lieutenant-governor can perform all the functions of a governor astaj- as respects the maintenance of the tjood government of the garrison, is the'r- any occasion tor giving any other individual 5,000/. a year for performing the same functions r-I do not think that he is called upon to perform all the functions which are expected Irom the governor. In the Hrst place, he is only there under a temporary arrangement ; his functions may cease by the death of Lord Chatham- It IS not a matter ot necessity that he should succeed "to the governor. ' 5^. Is he not in the meantime doing every thing that the governor could do as far as the interest of the garrison is concerned ?— He is discharging all the duties of governor ; but as far as the means of representation are concerned, he cannot I should suppose, receive the officers of the gnrrison and others so frequently as the governor would ; for I am aware that applications have been received from Sir W. Houstoun, complaining of the inadequacy of his pay. 34. Hus Sir William Houstoun ever requested to be recalled ?— No ; he has a private fortune which enables him, I believe, to remain. is. Does he not consider that a permanent situation ? — No, certainly not. 36. Is it contemplated to appoint the next governor for lifer— I never heard of such a notion ; he would be appointed like other governors, lor a limited period I suppose. ' 37. At the time Sir William Houstoun was appointed, were there many candi- dates for the situation ? — I do not recollect as to there being many, but there were candidates. 38. Were they aware of the amount of emoluments they would receive ?— Those were hardly settled till after the ap[)ointment of .Sir William Houstoun. 39. What personal staff has the lieutenant-governor?— He has two aidc--de- cam[), i)s, 6d. a. day each. 40. Is there any other general officer on the staff at Gibraltar besides the lieu- tenant-governor ? — No. 41. Arc there any of the governor's stati' there? — ^No. 42. Has the person who acts as governor at Gibraltar many claims upon his hospitality?— Very many; he has a vast number of officers to" entertain, both of the army and navy ; foreign officers connected with Spain, and all travellers and strangers who visit the .Mediterranean. 43. Have you not heard that it is the usual practice of the governor or lieutenant- governor of CJibraltar to invite the officers of the navy wiio may land there, or any other strangers, as a necessary act of hospitality --"l can s[)eak for myself oij retninmg some years ago from ihe Mediterranean in a ship of war, we put into (iibraltar, and Sir(ieoige Don was prepared to show ns the greatest hospitalit\ though from the sudden change of wind we were unable to profit f)y it. 44. Is it not diffitiilt to obtain accommodation for strangers at (iibraltar?— I should apprehend so ; but I cannot speak to that, for the reasons I have stated. 4,"). Were the emoluments received by Sir George Don much larger than those received by Sir William Houstoun? — Yes, thev were greater. 46. Are you not aware that, exclusive of the Ihitish fleet and strangers, French men of war, and foreighers of all descriptions, sto() at (iibraltar, and tnat ihe governor is e<|ually lialile to the expenses of their entertainment r— I believe so and that he cannot escape from it. ' 47. Should you not consider that the government of Gibraltar is one of the most expeiiMve, on uceouiit of those demands that inv made upon him, of any of our foreiun governments? — I should think so. 48. Was not the salary of :,,ooo /. a year tixed as being upon the same footing «ith what It was |)roposed to ajiow to Malta and the Ionian Islands ?— Yes, it was*! (<>. Have you been at .Malta?— No, I have not. .lo. Have you any reason to know that the expeiuse to which the government ot .Malta is liable is equal to that uf the gov. nment oi Gibraltar ?- No ; I siiould tliink it less; I should think lliere is less general intercoui>e uilii .Malta limn with (iibraltar. .-ji. Is there not a greater rendezvous of ships of war at .Malta than at (iibral- tar ?— Yes; .Malta is the rendezvous of the Mediterranean fleet. *^-^"^- B ^ ,-,J. And 4 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMirFES RolieitTVm. Ha;;, Esq. II March 1834 5^. Am therefore are there not more frequent calls uoon the governor there?— That may be counterbalanced by the n.ore frequent visits of straS 53- Are not foreign ships of war more likely to visit Malta?— Yes' «ffint/«" •. ' ''^'^' 'f "°' 1'"= ??«^ernorof Malta expected to entertain "those foreign appe"- tSe. " ■"'"' " '" ^°"""°^ of Gibraltar'? -He would enJeSaU S .55. On what do you found your remark that there are greater claims imnn .h« governor of Gibraltar than upon the governor of Malta ?-Xlu cTt dSes'^ depend entirely upon the resort thither of the naval service There come o Gibraltar, in addition, travellers from the interior of Spain. I fane there a^e no ciiStSo:!'--^^^^^^ K -r; i;^: of- -^^.?r £S(^ ^^^ -^ ....^^::j':!^si!^: 57. How long has Sir William Houstoun been there ?-Ahout three year. a point upon which I cannot give a deliberate opinion ; is fbrU ose \^o re better acquainted with garrisons than I an. to speak on that point " andsixjencl^dav" """""'^ °' '^^' "»"'-y -cretary'?-Nineteen shillings 62 Wnl '!r .""^ ''"°«'»"'^e^^-"e h"s the usual militarv allowances, do so'. ^ ^™'"'' '^"'' "'' ^""'"'"e« the whole of "his allowances ?-I will 63,. What establishment of clerks has he?-I do not now know. 04. Can you ascertain that point ?— I can, and will do so. 05. VVliat are the emoluments of the town major .9— He has 10 ? n dnv, colli""' '" ""•" ""* "■ """"'°" '" '"' "■"■•"'' '"y '-vS IZ i .*L,™,. GibraUar. I refer to General O'llara in i7„6, and Sir Gcor. 'e I) o n 8. Ti 68. Does that paper contain the amount of the actual force at (Jibraltar nt th,,... IK.nods :-It contains a detailed account of the amount of the f^rc^ imd o," .iL ':;;.': (h). Will vou be so good as to read it' "On tho 1,1 ,.f a. consistei of n .^ re. i' enK if^/V. *''" "* "" ^'^'^^"«^'i'""lt"0. the garrison artihcers, fluin'm:^ ^ !^ ' ^'^ . 'Z.rp:Ti:;l "'-^^''^'T' "^ -'"P-^y «f . 4.,..- m(..! ;;;,„„/ ulld/d jiir duty. iJiil ||i,. (,„. iMIiott, «iis constantly ivprcsuntiifr tl nicnts, and it docs not ..ppear to what extent th. J he opinions of Governor (J'llara and of Sir C lie necessity of sending out icinl orcc- e garrison may have been iiiciciscd. nt of .norgo Don, icsincliny the ainou ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 5 of force which should be allotted for the garrison of Gibraltar, will be found in their Robert }V,n. Hay, cJespatchns. Ihe garrison consists at this moment (March 1834) of total rank Ksq. niid file, 2,777. - Since it appears to be the wish of tho Committee, I will recapitulate the " March 1834. chief points in these despatches, which seem to be deserving of their attention. General O'llara was of opinion that as there were only 230 artillerymen in the garrison, a reinforcement of 300 ought to be sent out; that there were 550 pieces of artillery to be worked besides the field train ; that the garrison consisted •of SIX regiments and a garrison battalion, furnishing a force of only 2,287 men fit lor service ; that he reciuired 1,000 men, with or without arms, for duty daily • that the services of the garrison battalion were altogether nugatory, and that they only consumed the provisions which might be supplied to better men ; and that the garrison in time of peace should not be less than 5,000 men and -500 artillery The consecpience of this representation of General O'Hara was, that six rciments were ordered out from home, on their full establishment of i.ooo men each. In 1816 Sir George Don slated the effective rank and file of the troops of the line which he had at 3,354, of which he had 200 men .sick and 392 at drill leaving 2.2b2 fit tor duty. He stated that when certain works, which were then -.oiui; on and which required the aid of a portion of the troops, should be finished, The peace establishment, in his opinion, might be fixed at 3,000 men. The lines of deft ice extended upwards of four miles. 70. Is that including artillery and engineers ?- Tlie whole force. The artillery force amounted to 344, and tliey were seldom above two nights in bed. The general, therefore, applied for an additional company of artillerv. He stated though he did not describe in what particular (juarter, that lie was about to reduce the guards, and that the rank and file he hoped then would have three ni.'hts in bed 71. From what you have stated, it appears that the present garrison ol' Gil. altar IS about 240 men below that which Sir George Don conceived to be necessary in time ot peace r— Yes ; the present garrison cor,sists of 2,777 »"-"» in all. 72. You state that Sir George Don arranged his garrison in such a way, that the men might be three nights in bed and tince nigiits out of bed ? Yes. 73. Are you aware that the soldiers on duty here, the guards, are two nights in bed and three out?— I believe that is the case; but no doubt upon that point it would be propel to consult a military officer. But Sir George Don, in enumeratintr the grounds \i\mn whici) he applied for an increase of force, proceeded to state that although he thought 3,000 men might be sufficient in time of peace there were many circumstances peculiar to the possession of Gibraltar, which rendered it ot the highest importance that (iibraltar .should be constantly |)icparcd en all points 74- r^oes he make any statement of the population of Gibraltar =— He estimated It at 11,424. 75. What Has the actual strength of the garrison ?—Tlirce thousand three hundred and hity-tour ot all arms, and 2,7(12 fit for dutv. 7t). Does he state whether there is any rcstriclion "on the inhabitants of the place with respect to tho possession of arms r— 'Ihey would not be allowed to cap-y arms in the g:irrisoii 77. Are there any similar reports since that of Sir George Don ?— No ; I think this IS tlie last occasion of any serious representation respecting the stren-'th of the garrison ; there may lie occasional communicr.tions from the' lieutenanT-'overnor respeclinji the condition ot the place, but I do not kncnv any that go so nmch into detail. 1 here is i.nother iioint necessary to be considered in" estimating' the amount of loice necessary for Ciibraltar, whicii is, the occasional visitation "of epidemic lever, and the consequent necessity of keeping the force at an amount which would render any sudden diminution by disease less inconvenient to e public service Ihe troops lure, on the occasions hIrii fevers have of late years uievaiied suffered consideiably. 78. With regard fo that point of health, the only Ilcturn which you have given in as showmg the number of effectives and the number of sick, refers to the most liealthy period ot the whole year -—Yes, it does. 71). Then fore, i»" the Return had been given at any other period, the effective Strength of the .ii.nson uouhl huvo bee'.! less !!!!!ii it :i time? — No doui)! it uoiild. jsp.tNir-^ to huvo beeii at tiiat 80. And tiie proportion of sick at the present which it will be in the hot season time is verv much belo»v that Si. Does he state tl •''•' — Yes, in all probability it uould be so. .'. Di O.JJj le number of foreigners r—Yes, about 8 ,01)0. you know whether the population has increased since lliiit period .=— It B3 has S MINUTES o,.- EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Robtrt Wm. Hay, "as increased to between 16 ooo nn/l i^ «„« i. »i Marcli i8j4 fill- Jnhii Bisielt i Which produced an inquirrrto T Se; o?\ire''7T" '^ '° '''^ '-'*--. oeen taken to exclude those who ha c 0,76^ L 'to llu "''"^ "^^'y ^'^1' '"»« cult for the establishment of new persons '■^' ''"'* '° ""^'''^ '"^iffi" census was taken. The Serretarv o f s/nfo P''' '*"*' « ^^^'^ ^'"ce the last lation, and keep it as low us Sbh^ • thei.r^ '""''' ^''^^f '" ''^''"•^^ »''« popu of persons in the garrison drfnTL trwaTr"'^' "' 'T'"'^ ^" '"'•^''^ '^ l>oi A great expense ,fas occasioned^! tl L e talXlnZ^ f ''" ^^[^ .P°"^«lerable^ neutral f-round, for the recention nftlH '^"*''"'''""^'"t of u small village on the of .he g»„.i»,,: ,„ .„k* srrr tx r. r„:rf' 'Th' '? ""; ■""" "^ "■» cour.e much ,„crc.,e.■•<. 1 • , colonial fun.|:-.E„iipely. J,..Hng w' r ire u^e , ,0 be . ?";;'' "T'^^ "'" "' ''"-' ('ibrallar, an,| u bas been of late v«irs n mes, n • , . ■ ■^"''^'''' ■•^^"''"'•'-■d at have a ship of war constan.ly th ^ ^t 1' .e t\ " """" '"' ''^^"'"^^''^ »" economical arrangen.ent. Tbe caotain of ^hi . '''" '"""^'''l^'ftl a more staiuln.g. ^ ''"'''""' "' "^« I'""-! is a captan. of the navy, of old Sir Jofm Bmett, called in ; and Examined. 9•^■ H-^V'E you been at Gibraltar?—! have I ''n^!:^t::;;'Z^:r;,:ZuT'~' ^'"^ ''^^ ^^ co„nnissary-general; J WHS there nine m ",|". ' "■ """^ '" ™"*^' "'""'^V '''^''-^ '" '«';i or Thm. and !»V lla\e you never been there since ':—So f)0. IJave you been on active vervire sin,-.. il,..» ■ v i general, the .^rmy of 0.upat.on,nE;L^^^ .o^^ie;:;^;;:-^^;;;;^;::;;':;:,^^ ,;--- l^^ -n.nis.riat department when gun ..on chMies and to rclorm In, .I , " ' """ "'^'■^' ""^ ""'>■ "> "'l^-- H'e then on the east roa^t of S a n « " ^ '""o to ra.se money lor the army ,hat was Wellir,gion. ' "' '^ "•"""' ""-• '^'""««^' ^'-est to remit money to Lor.l tins tin.!:- vt/llm^h nL;;:"""'""^^ ^^"^ ">"'■« "'--^ '»-" than they are at 99. Do ON MLJTARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 7 99. Do you remembc- the amount of garrison at that time?— It was about Sir Join Buittt. 4,000 men, besides the garrison at Ceuta, where there were 500 men. 100. Then those persons in the commissariat were employed not merely at •> March 1834. Gibraltar bet at Ceula ?— Yes. 101. Can you give the present amount of the commissariat? — There is a deputy commissary-general, two assistant coininissaries-general and tliree deputy assistants. 102. There were only six when you were there?— Yes; but I had also five clerks who were appointed under an arrangement with Lord Liverpool ; at the peace they had a great number of officers that they did not know what to do with, and I suggested that it would he better to employ those men as clerks, bv which they would assist ; a deputy assistant has 15 ». a day when employed in war, 105. in |)eace ; I suggested their being employed as clerks, in order to save the expense of their half-pay, and they are doing the duty as clerks. 103. Is the establishment, in fact, much less than at the time you allude to?— Very little less ; and I should think with less it would not be possible to do, for then we had a de[)uty paymaster-general, and I had nothing to do but to draw cheques upon him, whereas now the military chest is in the care of the commissaries, and for the security'of that chest it is impossible to have less tlian two officers, because each must hold a key, and the chief a third. 104. Then your opinion is that the coumiissariat establishment is not larger than is required ?— As regards the officers, I should say not. 105. The officers are still acting as clerks ? — Yes. 106. The commissariat department are also doing the duty of the deputy pay- master ?— Yes, precisely. 107. Do you recollect what was the establishment of the paymaster-general at Gibraltar when you were there? — At the time I was there the office of paymaster- general was held liy some person in this country, and he had a deputy there who was a merchant, and we used to sond liali" a million of dollars at a time. 108. How many years have you served in the commissariat department? — I have held the King's commission nearly 30 years. 109. You have been employed in the Peninsula r— Yes, I was with the Austrian army. I was in VValcheren with that expedition, I was in South America with that expedition. I was with the Duke of Wellington for two campaigns. no. And in the Army of Occupation? — I went with the commissary- general in the Army of Occupation, anii« Ir..... il.i. re V 'rr:. '^"rT"'' ^'''f "-t 'non.ent of commissaries' charges for forage oH Lin V""^ . •'*• "* ''- "' «'"« P^^y. exclusive to 30O /. ?-_ Ves. ^ '°"'^'' '°<^'"g «"d other contingencies which an.onnt _n8. Ma.n, the total a«iount-?^i-;Z;j3liTS:S .0,.., Gii;!;^!!;:^^;;^-^::;::^" ^''^ ^"" ^"^^^^^ ■» '"« ^--•«' «'"«-of govemorffronltu'nSrlleroroS^^^ '""'f'^i"' ''"^^ '•^^" "^'^'"-' ''X the On the last revision of teGi^alar.s^^n'y-^T' "''''"''''-•'' ^ ""' aequaifued. tages. which were take fron ie oS f""^ "'"'^ ^^'"''"^ *"""^ """"' "'Jvan- cottage. ' '"^ "'''"'^ '" comniand, as was the government officet^;S;:rSel:!;t" ^"■''^"rr^'- '" »•- a-ounts of your Secretary of S.a'te ; if .0 1L p h ie" hT3d be V^^T '° 'f "P""^*^ '» '"« I'ome at the close of each vca f ItTX IT ■""'' '" ''"^ "^^'"""'« ««"' containing the statistical retu^ 'from G br^hm'liirH '" '"^ "^ ^''^ "'"'^ ^""''s. tl>aniaturederued by thegoverno"" Heu^i";;!:™ "" ""^ ^-""'"'"^"'^ "'" no -a.rrr.s;2t';j::;;jf;^ ;;' ^^""' ^-"-^ «''^"- -a ?-i have allouance amounted to^etteTMoo'r and S'a Tyrr^ ^-^ Chatham's Sirm//,V7„, iV, K.CM. called in; and Examined, of '^rmv?i!4L;,I"' '" ^'^^ ""''^ - ^'- --"-' *iepartmcnt?-Inspector.general higis :^;;tr s^ft;:;^!'^^' -'"^"'-""^"'^ ■" ^"^ --■- ^-i^ •« o„e of the fro Sicily, 1 2O. Have you not been there <\nrr- '■ \-o<, .1 . , . «or six nmnths ; I „ent on Tt fe lad^ .1^ \ ""!' °"'. ^"""» ""-^ '"^' *■'^^^■'• J arrived the p, ncipa! n. J I a I o ficc^ll?! .1 ^ '<"T:!-"n ''^^P'"'""'^^'''. ^^^ I'efore ".y taking the depaf,„,enrwilh I did "' '''"^' "'"* '^"' ^^"^"'^ J^"" ">«i«ted upon major. ' ' """ «"'"''"" •^"'"S^'"". start surgeon, and surgeon ^^^^^rSlSltlSZ^^ i.-|..ctor-generaIF-No. trom the two assistants. " ^ ^""'''"' "'"'^ ^•""^'■•''"' ^'* « ff'rrison s.u-eon and ® ' a most 12,';, Are you acquainted with the rolonv ««• r;i...oU o r ■ m the end of irn\ till 18.2 wit .hp" « . t^-braltar P-J have served there ily. ' *^' ' ^' " '"' "'^ exccptio., ot 1 8 months while I served in -■xmm MITTEE to be a Return llie puy uiid t that inoiiient pay, exclusive which amount lie lieutenunt- ear. "■•es i],6g2L? leral stafl" of ainef] by lije "acquainted. iiinor advan- goveriunent unts of your orted to the X'ounts sent Blue Books^ loluinents of d ? — I liave I Chatham's ctor-gcneraJ 3 one of the rved there I served in ; last fever but before istcd upon deputy in- tlie rcfji- ' — During illir staff, I surgeon from the i;eon and jenerallv I the la.,t :count of superini- "ing the ^ before, shtneiit? y one of [ SLTVcd 'o, it is a most fZarrison eud ot the quarantine department '(— vcrnment. 147- Uo they provide medicines without remuncrnrinM? i i m all persons m the Government are entitle, V. r~' ''"'"'^ conceive that «tore; at least it was ,).e custl'n Iny ^^^^^^^^^ '-" ^'- - 146. Is tliere not a medical officer at the he 1 liere is. Ml) What is his name?- Dr. n.oadtoot. K,o. o ym. know win.t ins emoluments are r-I think -.oo / i var noti,;-t^;rHrrri::^;r;.;;;,;;;: i;-r^ t.. med.c::;i;;-^iii. nan. . .arris... .as a civ.,.:,., his'du;;!^;:;;;;;^:;;;; t.:;;s.rs.:;r^^ -'■ ^"^ oJ;^.'a;:s::\;;i,^-sl j::,^'':;;--';-! -ur .ouid ....„.,;.ke that predecesso.s did it from the time , Up s „•„ r ' ■ " '■'"'>' '">-^^"' ""^ '"v •774 till this ,entle.iiun ^^Z'^^^^inZ^t "" ""™' ^" "" "'•'"^'' *" nei''war.,c;r';;u'-No' •^r"" "' t ''"' "'"^'^ "• — i-..ce o. sick- qua.;,ntinc. ^ ' "" "'-^ i"-^'l-<--^-'rs had the .nanaie.ne-.t .f the i.'i4- ^^ 'IS it without extra nav ' At il..it ►;„■ .1 "'"ler .,ua.a.,tine to the offic mi ut i t 5 • ""' *'? "P"" *-""^'' «'''P tl.c inspector of q..a,ant.:r".ld il ':' !''^,S*^'::;^"J •* '-"1'' " ''''y """-d t^ liollar being cl.an-ed to ..vf-rv .hV,"' ' • ' , , "* "" '""^' produced by o.ie or not. ^ ^ ^"'-'^ ''"P "'"'■'^"'«' "''^""-•>- placed u.ider quarantine i.5.'»- Ihose assistant surtreons nomiir i.. •., w . receiving ,.6/. 17, 6 d ufrlLT / t''^' Hetnrn ol the medical staff as ^^^ K . I , .. (. tf. per annum each^; are there any „ther allowances they receive K.C. II. 14 March 1834. ON M/LITARV ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES r:^Kl;^ft't;id:;:;';;.;i:;-.-,^E: --^^ ^"e yeHow .ver prevai.: ■ s. ,.. estiiiiishmen;?-:^."" •^"'"'''""'^ "'^'^ "' '""' 'ime of the smallness of .he " " 13<»- Is a tieputy purveyor necessary- — I think ii !=.... t , g^^a. .edical othcer should ^.^. L.^ Ti;L;':S'^L [^^tZ reguncls are co..siderably .-educed in nu, nlTs no v i. si of?'''''"'' "'>'^^"" ' '*>« have only six, a.id they have two medical officers'o eS '" ''^'"''"""^^ '^^^^ garrfo-i.;'" '"' """" ^'""'^ '^"""-^ ^" "^ garrison ?-Ye.s, strictly to the offieer is to superh.tend the ditfeie u S.e .1 I 'i'""^'"" °'" '""'"*^'''"' '"^■'li<--al a..d to .eceive reports from the , eo.f , '^^^^^ to the gover..or a'nd to the medica^rd TIuZ^' '' ^^"^'■"' ^'^•""•' ""'" "-^ ibr;.;^^^L:!';£;Twa^^:;:;^;;l, ;:;:,£;'-' -'^y •- direction p-u was m quarantine d^part.nent ; b t L s ' JretTl T'f- i''"! f ^'"' ''^'"' "*' "'« a n,edical officer attached to tl.aMmrid "* '""'''' established, and Giir.ia!t4:;:,y:i;|;,Sli::^";;:,--;f. --•^er ordi..^ cire..msta..ces, m formation of such a board/l dLpp.'ov;u, 'u'" *^""'"'' '""'''''' '"« "•-" '''« .ta;.^-n.e;'i:rtir;;7pr!;n? ;i ^-"-^ r^'^^ s^-^^^ ^^- '•- -neciicai absence or fn.lisposition of aw / he n cXl'.fli "" Tf ""'^"'"'^ *'"""« '^'^ are occasically attached to sud. reg mei.r he./ tti ! ""^"'^' '" " '"^^iment. '43. Do the staff surgeons utte.td tie riLi Tfi ""•'" /''''•^'ces are requhed. house a..d othe.- officers^, he Tove ..!„, >I A ? "* '*"' ^'''"'''"' "'''' ^'"«'«'n- called o.. but there are a g^elit';:^ a^' .S^s t i;;''"^ "" '"'^''^ '" ^^ of "Jy !^:dL;;^£'^'z;'r c' --~^^^^ - ^'^^ --^- :i:m=r ^^ ^""- "- -' ri'- •;::£,::ft;L;;f - 14.'). It .s the practice, is it not?— It is. of^£-^S't^:Z:t'' "'" '-''''''''"' '""^ description P-Al. persons in >». ! Sir H'iUiam Pi/m, K. c. II. 10 3IINUTES OF EVIDENCE nEFOIlE SEEEflT COMMITTEE receive that yo.i are aware of r-Tlioy receive their rations of provisioiKs, accordini? to the staft uarrants. * * '"^H- cstab ishtii since Sir Georjie Don was there ; forni.Mly the Jews, ilu- Catholics uiul !iie Christians Imd each of them u small hospital establishment of their own hut in i,Si9 Sn- George Don gave them np one of the most valuable barracks in' the centre ot the town, and in my oi)inion in a very improper place for a hospital I recomm.nded that he should j-ive « shed to each, on the neutral i-rouml by which tiie aarrison would get possession of u most valuable barraciv and CerV valuable quarters. ^ 157- Is there any charge to Government exclusive of the occupation of that barrack r— I believe not, they arc; supported by the inhabitants ; there is but one medical otlicer ; he is paid, I believe, by tlie subscriptions of the inhabitants. V' X- ".^"" '^""**' "">'•''"« "*' ''i^' «crm . of agreement on which it was given up .' — No, I am not aware ot any agreement. i_59- Vou are not aware of any agreement under which that barrack was "iven up -—No, It was what was called a hobby of Sir (leorge Don's. '^ Kio. Your opinion goes to its being an nnnecessary^cstablishment for the pur- poses to whicii It IS ajiphed ?— I think it is on too great a scale. i(ii. Are you aware that the inhabitants were much averse to the being carried to a iiiihtary hospital?— I never knew of an intention of carrying them to the mili- tary hospital ; all the dc|)artnicnts had places of their own. i()2. Have you any suggestions to make relative to the su|)plv of medical stores : -I am not aware how the medical stores are supplied ; I suggested when I had charge of the department, that oil and wine, and spirits and other article" which could be supplied from the IMediterrtinean, should be suiiplied in the aor- rison itselt, and not sent from London. " i(i;5. Vo mean tiiat oil and wine and spirits were sent from Great Britain =— bpirits and oil certanily, and there have been instances of wine. 164- How are the medicines supplied }—\]y the apothmiry-general, I should think the expense must be very small for medicines, the garrison is .so very healthv m general. ^ ■' '^'''•'';?''^',>'"^ "">'.*''!"*? '" -'"f-'g^*^ generally respecting the medical depart- ment ot Gibraltar.— Nothing; 1 can only say what I consider equal to the duties of the garrison wnen I was there, and I believe the garrison has not increased 1 W). \ on think three persons would be sufficient ?— Yes, I think there should be three ; one person might be ill, or one might be absent. i»)7. Hut that those three would be not only competent to discharge all the duties ot the medical statr, but the care ami custody of the medicines, so as not to require a |)urveyor or purveyor's clerk r — Yes. i(iS. Supposing the ollicers in the civil department not to have a claim on the military department, do you think you might part with another .'—I think if the apothecary or purveyor is done away, one assistant will be required to do his duty and the other to assist the regiment in case of the sickness or absence of the sur- geon or assistant ol any regiment. 10;). Under the ciicumstiiuccs of an epidemic, such as you saw at Gibraltar might the reduction you have referred to be inconvenient?— I should think not lor m the course ol an hour they might get 10 additional surgeons, there are .so ii'iany civil practitioners m the garrison ; I paid off 10 the day after I arrived, in the year 1828. 1 70. Is it not the duty of the stalV surgeons to attend the stafl" corps and the engineers f— I belRve the artillery .surgeon attends the engineers, he attends the ordnance department ; there was no stalV corps when 1 was there ; if there is one 1 should tliink they ought to be under the ordnance. 171. Is there any niival stirgi on stationed there ?— No, there is a naval hospital • I believe it is reduced since I was tin re ; the hospital in pos.session of the army is the naval hos|)ital. ■' 172. Do you know whether in tiie time of vour previous residence at (;ibraltar ihcrewas a.H^liarate naval hospital.— The naval hospital we occupy us the army hospital was the naval hospital ; they gave us u|) half of it. 17:;. Weie any surgeons connected with n.sval Kfrvices attending that hospital - — "\ ts,atleiuling the naval hospital tiie naval people onl). " 174. -May not the union of the naval and military service under one e.stahli^h. ■iient require the assistance ol a medical stalf beyond tiie surgeon and two deputies, should 'i\ I should :ry hculthy >4 March i8:)4. OX MIUTARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. ,, or hi'; ' ^"''"'-^ ""'"'^"' "^ I'"*''-'"''' '" "'ose liospitals, from the militarv .here i. ,,„, „coo,.ii, f„,. . »vaTS„Jfoi,,„',,r "" "'"' '" ""'" "' I""" ...enuhcic!' ""™ "" """' '"'■''™"" "'"" ' -"<" "''"■• ""=" •" "o "«val o.t.bli.h- 1.0 '.H)~Yc". ° '°"°' '" '"' """■■ '"■' '' '"'"' '" »'» •"' "«■■ '=8'"'«"'«l "".-Piwk i. ftliflii^SlZlfyTce™!;,,; '"" '-'f """■ ■"«''-- '- "- S"ri»„P- Sir 7r/;«f* M'Grijror, called in ; and Examined I believe Vr^r^ '*""^;."'"'f '^ ')"-■ Quarantine cstablislnnent at Gihralta ,t W. . • ' .?" "S"'""' ''"' ' '''' ""' "^""'^ "'"»' clerks or es.al.li«hme t le has rP— has. inllta '-^^•^''^l '''i'r'ir' ''?• 'r" '■'^^^'"•"■■^ ''-^"''l '" ''"'^ of nea,:e at 8- Sir Wi i ,„ V \ '■""'"■ "'l''^' •M>'^"'^i"«'-oin recolleetion, it is s nailer ^^n,^;."^ ' «'r: r ^l?^^' ^ "^ ^^''- '- -? ^^^ U. head ^f the .^dical 1S5. What is !iis pay?— I am not aware. uSt). I- •' ' Gibraltar department, as start' \urL.eon ZTiiTi "'"/.' '"■' Tf '''."" '""'' "'" "'^" ""-'^"cal iri:— £5™ =?/- 1. ::?*^^^ i" <'il'r«ltar, j^ener d d^ a ' bee ?'. r" ."""' """'' ""''''' '""^''^^^ »"s frifihtlul r more ab Iv ^e ,hs ., L ' ".'"^ '? """ >'^'"' "'^' '""'■'"'i'y prevailed, and i ^t t is^ n „.; . ,""" ''^ /'" '"""*^ "»' '•''«'«•''•'» ''^s Spain; an incr^L of' ^'1''! "';;;? "d'" "' 'r"'"" , '"'"^''"^^^ "^ that nlar,.; "^,;" ""'""- ''^' )"" >"l";re mto the state of the civil pr.ctitioners at , tlu\ «e.e aluays supports successively by Lord Chatlnun and I i# March 1834. 12 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Sn Ja,.!i,^Orig or. the lute Sir George Don and the present governor, on account of the civil nonula- tion, and the necessity ot having British officers. |'o|'um- lyo. What are the last representations you have received upon this subicct »— Uithin a ie« days, in a letter I had from Dr. Gilchrist on Monday, it v^a s a'ted tha there was considerable alarm on account of the great prevalence of he cholera in the neighbourhood, and urging me to send oft' some officers that were at liome on leave. -"nt av 191. Ho« many officers are there at Iiouk; on leave ?— To the best of mv reeol ection, three ; u surgeon ot one of the regiments and tuo hospital assistants, one of them 111 almost a state ot total l)lin(lness. 192. Two '..ogpital assistants at this time are at home r— Yes. 193. Is that the usual proportion of officers to be relieved ?— It is not • I have _ sent out one from Ireland, to go out with the 70th regiment as a start'assistant suri^coni hJ-\f ^.'H"-esentation has been made a few days ago from Dr. Gilchrist, who has the charge of the whole medical staf!' at Gibraltar, that with the three assistants he had at present, he still required the additional assistance of those members ot the start who were absent ?-Ves; in previous letters he pressed very much, on account of the necessity of those two coming home, my sending out two to reluvc tliem, tor in the state of matters in the neighbourhood of Gil)raltar he did not tunk it fair to take any officers i>om the garrison ; my answer was, tliat our establishn.ent was so short in tins country, I could not spare two officers till the others arrived in this country to re|)lacc them. r>i!-^'V. "^r ^"'' '^""'•e that there are a great many medical practitioners at Gibraltar ?— No, I am not informed as to the number. 196. It has been stated to the Committee that ten or a dozen miitht be sum- moned together in an hour ?-The space the garrison stands on is very small, and therefore whatever number may be there could he summoned in a short time 197. 1 here appear according to the last account to he very few sick ?— Yes 198. Do you know of any difficulty in uniting the office of chief of the quaran- tine and chief of the medical stafiP-I sec none; on the contrary. I think it would tend very much to the dispatch of public business ; in fact, for some time back when an officer went out to the <,uarantine, I mentionejd to a gentleman in the Coloma Office that the officer at the head of the medical department there could very well discharge the duties, and recommended it; but this was in conversation witli Mr. Jiay, and not a public Te|)iesentation on my part. 1 99-. Vou stated to Mr. {lay, when they sent out an oificer to superintend the quarantine, that the appointment was unneces.sary, »s thf- officer at the head of the medical department could j.erform the duties T— -I s «ot in the case of the prest-iit, but some years back in the case of his predecessor, who came home in bad ealth and died ; that he had long served in Gibraltar, that he was very adequate to the civil and military duties. ■' ^ 200 At what period was thatr-At the time of the last great sickness in Gibraltar, in 1827 or 1828. ^ 201. J'he officer of quarantine was tlien appointed ? — He was 202. What are the duties of the purveyor ?-Actually at present there is no officer of that rank at Gibraltar ; and, unless at Chatham and Barbadoes, none of tiiat class IS employee any where. As a measure of economy, a deputy purveyor IS employed at Gibraltar and likewise at Jamaica, as a clerk. 'Jhe duties of the clerk are multitanous at Gibraltar ; but though he happens to have the rank of deputy purveyor on half-pay, lie is a clerk, and is sent there to save the necessity of appointing a clerk to the duty. • •' 203. What is the half-pay to which he is entitled r— I think <; s. a day 204. Do you not consider (iibraltar a very healthy |)lace ?— Certainly 20,5. And that the disease prevalent there at diflerent times is an imported disease r-lhat is a point extremely disputed by medical men; but my opinion IS, that the disease is contagious, although it is not so clear that it has been imported. 20(i. Have not the garrison been very healthy of late .:— Tliey have been very liealthy since the last yellow fever. ^ 207. Are all the medical stores sent out from this country to Gibraltar .'—Tliey are ; such as medicine, instruments, and materials, as bandages, &c. 2u8. Are wine and oil sent ?— No ; the uine, oil and s|.irits are purchased there ; ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. ,3 there ; and none of the stores commonly called purveyors .stores, are now sent to Sir Jo,. M'OnMor C.ihrultar, only medicuies. bandages and medical applications. ' •Joy. It has been stated to the Committee that the medical staflf are expected >4 March 1834. to give their assistance to jwrsons in the civil departments of Government ; it they were relieved from that duty, would it not be possible to dispense with the services ot someol them r—1 hey are not only expected to attend the several departments, but application was made on account of the pauper population of Gibraltar through whom that alarming disease, yellow fever, has been su|)posed to be introduced, and with a view to give the poor pro|)er medical aid. 210. If there are but live or six of tiiose medical gentlemen, and the population ot Gibraltar is 1 0,000 or 1 2,000, can they attend them ?— They attend the indigent in the hospital, and likewise at their habitations. In the first appearance of yellow fever it was considered very important that the habitations of those persons should be visited, and any impropriety in the police pointed out ; and those gentle- men made a report to the governor, and the daily approach of the disease, and Its increase, were reported by them daily. 211. There is a civil hospital for the use of the inhabitants, which was formerlv a barrack r— I ijave never been at Gibraltar, and am not acquainted with the loca- lity ot It ; but I am aware there is a civil Jiospital. ■212. \Vould not that be sufficient for the population, and the people connected with the Government .'—Only a cjertain proportion of them could be brouglit into the hospital; a number of them must be seen at their habitations; and when a disease of this character appeared, it would be necessary that by far the areater number should be treated in their own habitations. I think the civil hospital is attended (jy a military medical officer. 213. Is not attending the civil oHicers more a matter of courtesy than duty =— ^o, It has been considered a matter of duty ; but as regards the ordnance, ihere has lately been a regulation issued, that unless in particular cases, where individuals " could not afford to pay to. medical attendance, or when no civil practitioner was near, medical o hcers were not called upon to attend them ; but still it would be thought a hardship and unknulness to refuse in case of accident or disease. I mav say at this moment that the civil department of the armv are attended bv the medical officers ot the army wherever they are. " in Francis Knmiles, Esq. called in ; and Examined. 214. VVHAT situation have you field in Gibraltar ?— Assistant Commissary- general. -^ -Mr,. I low long have you been returned from it?— I arrived on the second of tills month. 216. Mow long were you there?— Rather better than 1.' years. 217. What is the amount of the cftmmissary'b stati' "at Gibraltar P—Eive othcers ; one deputy commissary-general, one assistant commissary-general and three de|)uty assistants. ^ ^ ' •JuS. Were you ever employed in making contracts for the supplies of the gariKson r-\ es ; that is one of the principal duties. 2l(). .\re the contracts made on the spotr—They are 2.'o. Does that consume u great .leal of time ? -The 'contracts are various and voluminous, not only for the army but for services of the ordnance department ■221. Specify the diflerent kinds of contract.?— Tlie commissariat contracts are for provisions of various descriptions, tuei and light, and transport ; and the ord- nance c.ntracts for bui .ling materials, as als.. the land and wat. r transport of the oidnancc. I believe those embrace all the most important. 222. Is not there a considerable baking establishment r— Yes. 223. Does that bakery supply the navy as well as the army ?— N.) 224. i ou have a store of salt provisions?— Ves. 22,5. To what extent = -it is generally e,,ual to six months' supply ; that is it would supply the garrison three months, without the intermediate issue of fV^sh —Yes" '^''"' '"''*''^ '' '"'''*' "'' '" "'"' '"""""' ^"^ ''™'''*'' ''•'^"'"'' *"■■ '■""f'ngency ? 227. Have you large supplies of fresh meat? -No, not large supplies- we hive a^^coiitract of two years' period, but the supplies actually^n tile i'lCon ^re "■'^' « 3 228. What Francis Knowks, ICsq. g Francis KnouiUi, E«|. .4 MINUTES OF EVIDENCK BEFORE .SELECT COMMITTEE 14 March 1834. ^1 ■I should conceive It 2£;S;-Hr :!=:',£ t^;:— st-ii- z S '.;^^- 2j.'(). Does not the Halt ineot cost nearly -id. a noinur-- -'JO. And tiie fresii nieiit ubout 3 "".unti rate. necessary not ,0 alloW the n^'alto e.^a Z; '.tl and S!.^.' '"'' ''''f '' aconsta.,t succession of n.eat going throng Vic £^1^^ Iresh meat =-Most certainly that could be done ^ ""'' '^"'"•'"^'^^'y ^vUh ■'^S* /s 'ilL.r"''' 'T' " '^'"T '"'".''^ ^~^' **""''' ^-^ ""'='«'«d «^itl' H saving -3«. is there any depot ot naval provisions at Gibraltar?— Thpm !.!.„; 1 of late to any extent. ^luranar i- — mere has not been 239. Is there a separate olficcr to superintend that supply =- Yes cxpe,,,.. ,,, ,l„ „av„l ,lo„a,„„c,„ L ,,.,. very l^urGiZltr ° '"■"'"" ,::t,;!;trsr;rcf ;:;!;^^^^^^ '"'""°" '- """ -n-- '-c.-..i„iy. .re very Wsc, „.,,crc.a. ,l,o ,„.re, „f ll'^S,,;!;! r„a! ^'c^ZS"'""' ^ '""' u4'n.iL:;\;-;;;-:ti^r;:r::;;i;':ir:=^^^^^ f«>^ ».K,.ij .mi, frci, ,.,..t =-ye.. [7/«.i;;::t:r«r!;.^,rl..}' /S:'j'''= """ on STATI'.MENT s Fre.l, M,-m. ' ' ' "* '*"l'l'l}''ii,^' the (iamson wholly will. 3,.=,oo n.tioiHofsalt..H.at, ,„,■ ,lay, for iS.- .5 ,Iavs, .■.■.Icul.ilin.r nm,., cnn-.l li;■;r;;;;,^'r:;■■';;t;;;;^.;r' '■"■""'■»'■'"■■ '"""-^ 3,500 ratio,., ,>( (rch .ncni. tor ,S2 ■ .lays, at 3 [ r/. per ration I '. 3,500 rations of Iresli in( at, for 305 days, at 3 \ ,1. per ratio 18 March 1S34. X. £. 12.420 2 I, s>t'4y 14 10 •21,009 •/ 7 1 7, '.'DO .) ,S i'. L'. KnoKles, A. C. G'. -'49. Do ON MILITARY KSTAULISIIMENTS IN THE COLONIES. i;, 249. Do not the uuriison receive, in the course of the year, at least one-half of their iMovi^ions Ml salt meat?— One-hnit salt, and one-half fresh meat. a.io. Supposnij^ the imviil and military stores of suit provisions were united, it niijint not be neccHWiry to keep so large an amount of suit provisions for the supply of the tro(>|)s, who might then use frcnh Hi.at:— I speuk not from positive informa- tion, hut I heheve the supply of naval stores is very limited, in consenuenco of the tlcmand hemg Innited. S,-)!. You must of course have a supply of salt meat aj»ainst any conlinizency • supposing you were to give out to tiie navy those stores, always keei)in« three months provisions, that in case of emerr-encv might thus be supplied to the garrison you could uhvi.ys (iirnishyour garrison with fresh meat ?— Yes, if jve had a large supply ; but what we should require for the army for a month, would last the navy for six months; there is seldom more than one vessel at Gibraltar. a.-ja. How long would salt provisions keep without injury r— I should think pro- bably eightten months or two years. Al;;. Even if yon did not supply the navy, do you apprehend yon would be able b^ having three months' provisions in depot, to supply the army with fresh pro- visions lor nine months out of the twelve i'— Yes. it we knew what to do with the wit. 254. Clould they be sold to ad vantage at Ciibraltar ?~No, not now. a.).')- What is the extent of supply r— About 3,.'50o rations daily. a.'jt). Is u groat proportion of the salt provisions issued, pork ?— No equal quantities ot beef and pork. ' ^ ■JfiT- Whence do you obtain your supply of tlour ?— From America. 2.5S. Have you any bakery ?— Yes, the troops are supplied entirely by means of the pubhc LakLiy ; it IS a Ciovernmeiii estublishment. 2,5;). Is that included under the bead of commissariat r— Yes. •j6(). How many persons are employed in that bakery ?— I think nine bakers with a muster-bilker. ' ' 2(il. How long has it been established ? — I believe many years. 262. Arc tlie bakers soldiers ?— That was formerly the case, but not now • they are entirely civilians. ' ■jO'^. Were you in (iibialtar when the troops were fed by contract ?— They arc now partially supjiiied by contract anil partly by the commissariat ; the bread is mannhictured by the commissariat. •-•(I4. Do yon think that you furnish it cheaper than it could be sunniied bv contract ? — Decidedly. ' ^ •J(.,-,. Were you at Gibraltar at the time when the troops were wlioliy supplied by contract .' — No, I u as nut. 2tj(). Is there any bakery for the navy ?— No. 2()7. Do yon supply them with any bread?— No. 268. How arc the contracts made "for the supply of fresh meat?— It is a con- tract lor two years. ■2l'nh Is it an open contract r— Yes, by public advertisement and scaled tender. 270. Is the contractor tor fresh provisions allowed to sell a portion of the beef to the inhabitants of tiie town ?— He can sell what he tiiiiiks proper; he is to |urnisli a certain (piantity, which quantity it is the duty of the commis-ariat to see IS lurnished ; any above that (juantity he may do witl/wliat he thinks proper. ■271. ^ oil say the bread is furnished more cheaply by the bakery than by public contract r Yes; the flour is provided on the best terms, and the'rc is no cliarts inferior meat upon ilie commissariat. Since the slii|)nient of the meat from Deptford, the good quahty ot the meat has never been questioned. ^•'^^- t-- 4 27.). \\'ouid Fraticit Knoxiilet, Ek]. 14 March i8;)a. I i-^-j — L^ ji.iaiimi^ij ? Frn:icis Knoules, Ksq. l^ iMarch 1834. 16 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE 279. Would it not be very easy, by liaving, ut Cork, a very smull establishment to provide against Irauds Ijcing cominitted there r — Certainly. ' 280. Would not that be less cost to the public than the expense ot double sbio- ment ' — Decidedly. '^ 281. You make an official inspection, and report on the prvisions you receive » — V es. 2S2. Therefore if a contract was made in this country for the shipment of pro- visions from Cork, conditioned on tlie provisions passing inspection at Gibraltar the whole expense of bringing them to this country might be saved ?— Certainly 283. By whom are they inspected alDeptford ?— By the Victualling Department ot the Navy ; .1 do not know who the individuals are. 284. In no way l)y the commissariat ?— No, not that I know of. 285. When they arrive at Gibraltar, is there not a board constituted ?— Yes ; of an officer ot the conunisariat, an officer of the naval department, and a quarter- master ot one of the regiments. 286. In the event of a rejection, on whom would the loss fall ?— On the public, 1 apprehend ; because the provisions are presumed to be actually the property of the public. •' t f J 287. If they were exported from Cork, might not the reponsibility be made to rest on the contractor ? — I should conceive so. 288. .Are you certain thai tlie contractor is not bound to send provi-sions that shall remain good lor a certain number of months ; in which case the loss would tall on the contractor, in case they did not remain good that time r— That would depend upon the stipulations of the contract, with which I am not acquainted ; it may be taken for granted, however, that the contractor is strictly bound tliat the provisions .shall reiimin good. 289. What are the duties of the deputy commissary-general ?— He has the generiil control of the department ; making contracts, raising money ; in fact, seeing and observing tiiat the duties are strictly and regularly carried on. -. "• 1^0 >"" know what his pay is ?— Yes. 291 . Is it 69.1 /. a year ■- -That" will be about the pay. 202. Will it, together with other allowances, amount (o 773 293. Is that exelu.sive of the rations for himself and servants ? it is inclusive of the rations. 294. Does he perforin any other distinct duties, except in reference- to the control ot the commissariat?-- He is responsible for the contracts beinit observed, and lor tlie raising money for the pay of the troops ; he has a controlTin-' power! witliout any distinct dutv. " 29.'). There is an assistant commi.ssary-general r — Yea. 29ti. What does tlie assistant do?— It depends upon what the deputy appoints him to ; my duties were the custody of the military chest. 297. Is it necessary to have three to provide for the oerformance of those duties in [)ersonr— Most certainly, according to tiie present regulations, for the deputy commissary -general caimut take upon himself the ciiarge of the chest; the chest is under the key ot two othccis, viz. the deputy commissary-general and the cashier. 298 _\ (ill consider, for that reason, it is desirable to have an a.ssistant co issary- general r— I ho de|)uty conimissary-s-eiieral could not take the ciiarge of it upJn liim^elt; it vvoiild ieaii money fgr the expenses of the garrison and the expenses ot the ordnance, but also for tiie expenditure of the navy? Yes. 301. All the money i:^ i.ssued by the commissary for every military purpose?— Yes. 302. ihe eommi^siiry is the banker to issue the public monev ?— Yes. 303. Does the deputy commissary-general draw hillb on the Treasnrv ?— Yes. 304. Is there any ether person in the commissariat department who does draw bills (jn the Ireasuryr — No. .;n/-,. Those 30ti. I'rev the estimate /. ? -Yes. — I should conceive bills are always countersigned by the governor ?— They are. lous to the drawing of tiio,sc bills the governor's pleasure is taken on • — Yes, alwav.s. ]ny. Is not the officer who is charged with the military chest put into general orders? is not ihat sanctioned by the governor ? — Y mandiiig the troops. es, it is by the olhcer coin- 308. Y ou ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 17 deZ'e/.Z^T"^''-'' ^"""■""^ '^''^'""f^' '■'"P«ssible to perform the duties n.w devolved on tl^ com.n.ssanat with a less staft?-It would be impossible. their Lncoracts''-' "'"' " ''' '"'''"' 'lepartment?-No. {he hospital make hnM^r ,^*'«^' ""' ^^f be supplied from the commissariat department =— It mieht the invatr '" ''"'"^ °' '" ""^ ''''''' '' "'^ »-°P« ^ "«' sufficiently gooA No ' iV iT'ir '' °"« '^•"P°'-'»'-y ^lerk in the Return, is timt a new appoint.nent ^- iVo It IS an appointment now of some standing; he is an assistant t/.Tfffi •n the charge of the provision branch, and, speak nrfrLverv late Lt T IS absolutely necessary; there is only one offic'ir a "rtlVisderki this b?an ^'ftt' TTT' tt' 7 'T' !'«-ly employed till five o'docfo:offi 4 duTy "'^'^ vi 1 I '''"'y assistant commissaries-general constantly emoloved? Yes, and they arc constantly and well employed ^ employed .-'— Francis K 14 Maich 'noKxlei, 1834. «8 March 1834, il/ar^s, 18" r//e Ma/Y», 1834. LORD VISCOUNT EBRINGTON, IN THE CHAIR. Sir William Pym, k.c. h. called in ; and further Examined at Sir w,£,:t -srior miidij^rs^r:;^.^^ r ir^- - "'"-^ mention, as I considered them sui.e munerav ind^^n ,T C-ibraltar, I did nut 3 '4- Those tvyo o^icers are no longe- in existence?— No ^^3.5. During the war the regiments were 8oo strong at Gibraltar ?~From 8oo 3 1 6. They had three medical officers ?-One surgeon and two assistants ...4 f J;:.psj;^ i:^^i£-hz£s^- -™ 3.^ I . Do you declare that of your own knowled«e =— No hut r tai *• .no a„i.,«,„ „„',r;:™°„,; rrr ..t. 7 1':- :.t; '"'" f'"t'"« '""■ """ """ \m Pym, K.c. II pop 0.25 327' And Sir iniliam K. C.II. ym, 1 8 March 1834 18 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE 327. And that not merely as a measure of humanity, but a measure essential o lie .security ot the heaitli ot the j-arrison ?-l should think a combination of both. 1 am of opinion that there is no danger of epidemic fever except in the three or four hot months ; the disease docs not exist in a vu\d climate. ^328. Arc there not many civil practitioners besides these assistant surgeons? 329. Arc you still of opinion that those officers might be dispensed with?— 330- Do the civil practitioners afibrd their services i^ratuitouslv ?— Certainly not 33.1- VV hat uould be the effect upon the poorer classes of the' inhabitants "if the giatujtous assistance now aftbrded by the staff surgeons was withdrawn?— I take It tor granted that the medical officers attached to the civil hospital would attend those poorer people; there are two medical officers belonging to that establishment one a retired surgconot tlie army, who after 30 years service retired upon 15/ a (Jay, a Air. Amicl; and the other is one of the garrison assistants attached to the Hospital as (hspenser of medicines, and paid extra. 332. That person is one of the assistant suifteons of the staff ?— Yes, he remains m tlie civil hospital, and dispenses medicines. 333. He is one of the Jive r — Yes. 334- 15v whom is Mr. Amicl paid ?- He is a retired officer upon 1 5 *. a div. and is paid by tiie merchants for his duty at the hospital. 335- Thereibrc if those district surgeons were dispensed with, would not the sick be taken care of by the two officers you have mentioned .?-Thev were taken care of by civil prdctitioner.s. ^ 33^^. But nunc of tiicse severe ejiideiiiics had then prevailed ?— The first epi- demic was in 1804, and it Mas in 1814 that this establishment was first carried into effect, after Sir George Don's arrival in ^"; .'^'"r ^'■■^^ epidemic broke out about 100 years after we first took posses- sion ot the fortress ; are there any causes why epidemics should be more freciuent in future than formerly .—I believe epidemics are more frequent, inconsequence Of tliP greater communication with the West Indies and Spain than formerly. .338. Do you conceive that increased density of population has anything to do with tlie spread of an epidemic? -Yes; the more dense the population, the more Kipitlly It «ill spread ; but the dense population is not the cause of the disease 339- f lie disease is the same that has prevailed in Spain P— Yes, and in the >Vest Indies. 340. Do you know how often it has prevailed in the garrison of Gibraltar Ijetwecn 1804 and rlie present time H— It appeared in 1810, and by prompt and decisive measures the disease was eradicated, xvilh the loss of only 13 persons. 341- U hen at any subsequent time?— In iSijand 1814, ami the last in i8-j8 ;;4-'. WinM thne he any .iiflienity in getting the civil practitioners in the garrisc'ii to attend the civil hospital instead of the assistant staff surgeons, if paid the same rcmunuiation?- I think not. 343- "^ Oil have staled that the spread of the disease was stopped with the loss only of I.; per-ons, by very prompt and decided measures in iHior— Yes. 3.44. I hat «as previous to the t-tablisliment of these staff surgeons ?—Ycs. 34,>- n liat were the measures to «hicli you allude ?— I was at the head of" the Ocpmtuient myself, with only Um> assistants, and one extra garrison surgeon. When tlie disease was reported to iiic, i visited the district where it prevailed? and 1 lonnil It was the yrji.nv fever, what was eommonlv called the black vomit fever. ' i "ent to (uneial Campoell, the governor, and stated to him my opinion: he was rather ahniiied, and asked «imt was to be done. I asked liiin if he would leave it to niysell and the tuwn-ii.ajor. lie said, " Most certainly.'- 1 replied, '-The only thing is not to let anyluHly know of it.' I went to the town-major, and ariaiig(U uilh him to have eanip cpiipage sent out to the neutral gromul, and a cerlain number of tents pitched, uilli bedding and every thing proper lor the lecep- lion (.1 the suk. A I 1 j „, lock at night u picket of 100 men «as ordenil, ^^nh a consideiable number ol unts b. longing to the garrison, which oroceeded to the infected dhstriet, called Scud Hill, very near the doekvaid. W'e snrroun.led the fistriet, aiK placed sentiies at the door of each la^use in which there was any . is«ns,., iUMl !n:,n,• ;i::^r ti^:;- :x- - -sr ;>-^^' ' -?'-^^^^^^ i^ in..orte^..e July or ^ ;;.;":j,J':^'J;^3';;::' i;^;, i^ieS::: "-^'- ^ an.l the inspection of ho e . n ' '. ■ '"'"^ ^'"' ''" '''^'^'o" into districts, vided that proper n.^ulations are " is e7to mak^the dlil' '"'l'"'!'^ "'"-' '""■ cases 01 disease to the principal n.edical IXer ""-^""' ""-'" ''^''"' upon tlK.,M rcniuuenae tl .'m ' ""' •'""^'"'""'-■'•^; t/.e people who call waf ^iat u:; pilrXs^'i;? r';;^":;":' 3 ^T"r' '-^ •"^' '^—^^^ "I'on it lu.t .1 eenl^;,, ; V 't , ''" '"'*"'■"' "l"* .'''">' -^''^'"it-'^lv ^-J look poor and mcIJv , c't de , l.t """.•"'"'""""■^Ivr '« »n .ncoura.enu.U to tin- \>y the En.hsli iXi;";:'^''"'' ""-^ """ "-«-—". i"".d..r lobe attended 3S(>- ''•'oni llie country ? — I" ' »ound ti,o(i8 persons to make a nicMnomnZi . the mLt 'V" ^..''^"r""'""'"''"' "''^ "''' 'egin'ents fever; so timt n " he c m of tl^ f ,;''""^ "'•"" l''^! ^"'''iors who had Ld the to attend the sick md ' '" ""-• >'"'''- "'"' "" "" s|.ecinl V . 1' .« I , . L ' "^' '"-''"".«'".i; '» the naval .Icparlment ; hei.m c'luaii) loi the vittualhn.; and naval services, whicli are nearly )mli a mile ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 21 a mile apart, are kept clean and in good order. When the Naval Estimates were taken under consKleration in November 1832, the expense of the establishments for the naval and victualling departments amounted to 3,550 /. per annum- That charee was dimmishcd (by the present establishment being reduced to one clerk in charge one cooper, four labourers, one warder at the dockyard, and one warder at the Ic tuulimg yard, and a man as a waterman to take cure of an expensive tank formerly prepared) to 741 /. per annum, effecting a saving of 2,809 /. In addition to the victualhng service, there is frequently duty to be performed as connected with the rehttnig and repairing of His Majesty's ships ; such has lately been the case with regard to the Revenge, the Philomel, and the Flamer, steam-vessel ; all of them having reqmred supplies and repairs, some of them from damages at sea recently received. Tiie dockyard establishment at Gibraltar is always available also for vessels that may meet with accidents while going to other stations besides the .^lediterraiiean. Both the dockyard and th'> victualling yard have cost the Crown large sums of money, and, in case of war, would again become indispensablv necessary. It is requisite, therefore, that they should be taken great care of and the i)robability is they will be taken more care of by a person acting under the authority of the Board of Admiralty, than by any one belonging to any other department, even admitting timt the commissary was capable of taking rharae of the dockyard duty, in the room of the experienced clerk now there, who has been ^6 years accustomed to its duties. M'hoever has cliarge should have a competent knowledge of the cure and management of provisions, as well as of naval stores; aim It ou;;ht to be a permanent appointment; tiie commissaries, I believe are removed periodically. The present clerk in charge receive.: the same salary, 350 / a year, as he did when he was senior clerk to tiie late luval storekeeper, before the reduction. Ft he had been superannuated, he would, from his length of service, have been entitled to 262/. 10. v. per annum; «, that if the office was translerrcd to another officer, who must be remunerate.!, there would only be »7 I' }os. to pay hiin with. The persons employed under lii.n now must remain even if the establishment and its duties were trunsf nrcJ, as it would be absolutely necessary to keep the premises clean and in good order. There are only four abourers, and there is a great extent of premises ; altogether 1 think, therefore, that tlie public service would not be benefited by any change. 37,'). But upon any vacancy occurring, would the same objection exist to trans- terringthe duties ot this clerk either to the commissariat,' the ordnance, or the civil department.--— Perhaps another person having had som« experience in victual- ling yards or dockyards, might be found who could conduct it as well ; but I doubt wlietlier any person selected from other departments would be able to do it. 37|>. Are the provisions under his charge in one part of the town by themselves, and tlic naval stores in another part? — Yes. 377- Supiiose that the provisions were transferred to the commissariat, mjcrhi not the other stores he transferred to the storekeeper's department of the ordnance - —It would be a matter ot discretion with the Ciovermnent, whether they thoudit ttie oidnuncc could conduct the duties of the dockyard as well. :]7i^. Arc they not very trifling in time of peace ?'— They are not very great ; but there are occasions when there is more to do, us in the case of the three vessels 1 Imve mentioned. The Hevenge went in with the loss of her main-yard ; and to make a^mam-yard is not a business likely to be understood l)y a commissary. 378.* 1 he clerk does not make the uiain-yurd ?— It was made under his direction. 37})- Arc there not persons on board a man-of-war competent to superintend that uork .-—Yes, and they all take a pait in it. 380. Has this officer in cliarge sufficient employment in the performance of the dutie.Yiow enjoined upon him?— I should think from the number of accounts con- nected with the victualling and naval departments, and his current duties, t'.mt his time IS pretty well occupied. The accour s are very numerou.s. ,',8 1. 1),) you conceive by Mibdividing tiie dulies, and having three separate de- partments, such as the ordnance department, the c-::::::ie.sariat, and admiralty, if that uliicer hud three masters to obey and three separate accounts to give in, and during a period of activity vaiious persons to |)lease, would lie not be liable to great co!li;-ioii.-, hthviLii these ditiutht dcpiirlnients H It would be totally impossil)le tor any active service to be performed by any one individual under those eircum- stunce.s. Ill the present reduced state ot the public service, he may conduct it in tinie of peace ; but if there Has any active duty to be perlormeil of the nature de- -.cnlied, he could not do it ; the establishment would require to be iinniedialelv extended. •' ''•^5. u 3 382. Do James Metl, l'.gq. 18 March 1834. 2tJ MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SEtECT CUJIMITTEE J(i«'f,v MfH, l;«q, J8-*. Do you not conceive that the piiiiciDle iit)n.. whirls ,..t„i i- i descriplion oii-ht to be eoiuluetcd ho if,; Z ,1 • '■'"""I'"'™" oflhis .SM.„„,8;„. ,ho„l,HH,.„,s.-;,i„d i„ that ,„a,,„eV S a, bee,, fo „d' to'Lt ,"™" ""» o.,w.r - U,„louhtedly; but „pu„ the s„„l t ,»' b e lie S tia, "","" actf ; i:X7,s:,;;:..3t; r „;!'L;;:SeSiS„" :r; i?- '■t' luestionsi-Ulou'^d thiuk ,rt ft l«l" ,""°" '"'jr'"' ''>' "" I"™"' .0 .eep the setvice. diS, '^.n tlV^^ sS';;rb^""C,: ."ISet'/ .ub„„tte,l to the Tieasurvi b, that I5o.nl r/tlLrft^the Co„Z™lt"":- probable; ,. i, ,,uite euou^l, for Ihc present offielr to I a h-b.rle o I, vt.I,7 -'l^ley da" ^^"' '""''' ''" '"""■""'■^ *"•■ '*"P'''y'"« ^^"'^ l"«viMon. to l.otl. services ? thaftlVe mitii^.lT?" '*"'''' '.'^ " "''"''' '°""''=*'''' " '"' ^''« Cc.nnissariat (Icpaninint ... ' Si;:' »u u,J;:;';;:r ^1 "cr r! ;;;,;':;ii "r -r "' "-t-""^ "'■«" " »» f"™'">- »"''«-.c.i .:;;.; ";; ihS, ;;'':™,,,?,e,eir;;;T,t';r [The Paper was mul, as JoUous :'] AUMY hi ri>LIF:S:-SA..T IlP.F.F AM, Po„K. j;;;:p:;: ;;; il;;s :r5,A;;r,,;::;-;;:;;.'i„;'i:;;r;:i"i.':;- ';;;ii;r In August IH.. ,lu„ practice was clwuigcd, under an impit-ssion iliat u would bo iou.ul mure ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 23 more adviintagcoHS to His Miijoslv's service to outer into contract for llic delivery in the James Meek K Cdloiiics ot'all llie s:ilt meat wiiieli miglil lie dciiianded for the use of the troops. '_ This opinion havini; obtained the sanction of the I.ords Coininissionersof the Treasury as stated by the then Chairman of the Victuailiny; Hoard, the plan was adopted, and con .q. 'y> 14 Marcli 1834. tracts were aceordingly made in Septemher t'ollowiiii"; tor the supply of all the salt meat d for (jiibraltar. re(|uireiJ lor tlie colonies m the West Indies, inclu;{. This practice of obtaiinrig the supplies of salt meat for the colonies bv contract prevailed until the year 1827, when the system was again altere I, the Victualling Board having found from experience that the practice was injurious to the public interests, and tiiey therefore determuied agiun to revert to the former mode of supplying the colonies by shi|)ments from J)eptford, as was the case before the year 1822. Tlie following were the reasons assigned by the Victualling Board tcr reverting to the old system : 1st. That the (juantily of salt meat delivered at (iibraltar by the contractor for that station, so much e,\ceeded the (piantity iiecess;iry for tiie troops in the year ending June 1827, that it was not thought iic '^ssaiy to demand any salt meat from the party who took the contract in Se|)tember 1821), for supplying the troops at Ciibraltar for the year between June 1827 and June 1828, in consequence of which the Board were obliged to takeoff his hands about l,8oo tierces of salt meat, being a part only of the quantity which he had pro- vided in the expected execution of his contract. adiy . 'I hat the contractor for supplying salt meat to the troops in the West Indies, having in a similar manner, on the tirst moiety of his contract for the snppf^ of the vear between June 1827 and June 1828, delivered very large surplus quantities at all the colonics ; and, ^dly. That in the uncertainty which existed with respe<;t to the (piantity of salt meat which might be required at the several foreign stations for the use of the troops, and the prohabihty that, in consequence thereol' and of the circiimstanees which had occurred in the then recent instances tilie(i : there have been, since its adop- tion, no cxcesbive deliveries, nor any imporiant coiideiiiiiatiniis, except one in i82(), which was of a very inipro|ier imtiire and of great magnitude, an attempt evidently made !<• frustrate the present practice. On that occasion two entire cargoes and a large portion of ;i third were cundenined, •• as not l)eing of a quality required by contract; but, on the contrary, of a mixed, old, rancid mid unserviceable quality, and unfit for the use of the lraiied to the navy, and not a single cask of it was coiideniiied. The freight from Cork to Depllord may a|)pareiilly increase the cost of the salt meat delivered at Deptford, from ;5 s. to 3s. ()(/. pir tierce, or about 20s. per ton, but this is in ap|) per cent, los than it was pie\ioii-ly. This has arisen eiituily trom a briter svsteni ot' manage lueiit, and not from tile gem lal rate '-• '■''n"i.v.l to present n, the con^e of issue was dei:;.!^;^ I;"':':^^;,:^ I--""-'"- That at otS'^t-rt^' ;::t ::!;;1 'x? c. ^'^"1 t'r'' .■"•' - ^■■"-""■- "-'y. •>- •« - Mnurit.us,Newf,;n,ulln. Ik' Iw. ''?,,, °"^^ '^'""''■^' .^J-^'" I-'"<'. -I"^ H'ver Gambia, Trinidad, Dominiea, Gre, nd.V S Kitt' S ' t'I "«■'"':"•"• »'"l,adoes,8t. Vincent's Peas as well as sa» „ ; se t ,o ,lu n"'. "^'■'■'''°,'/""'^7''' "'"' ""'=^""""'- islan.isjeocoatotheHahamas mlflltoN. ^■■''""""«' "'■'i»>'"l;' '""I the West India The quantity of sal, n>ea, en !",".?'' ""*' '" "'*■■ ''""'' "'Africa, the present spnng. was S.nVtie ee^of?;,' " /t'sr'."' ""' '"''"'^ "'' "'" '"»' """'•"" and It may here be ..roper to -Id V.'„, , '1 ''^''Ces «ere sent to {iibiailar. provis,o;,s,wh,ehLM,. J |,"'1;, ^te;'!;!;iT' ''''"""■<'!•/"- -"etimes made .>.,■ ,„U the aul..mn of .828, when , esuciive - .''"'V;' ,"":'''' ''"■• ^'"-•'' ^^"^ "•^' ^'»e in the supply of |.n.vis^,„s :X'c. :s'ofl7.„'b?"^ •■""' *' -"» -vp-'ed .hat tasion .he V ietuaiiu.t; l!on,d wm ■ led ,' t ^ . '"*' ''T' ''"^ ""• ^" "»" "«=- tieices of salt n.enrfor tie . "c of t| u- in Ihir,':' "".' '""'r-'''"'«'y "l"""rds of .,000 farther supplies would u. all p...babl,y be "ei I:''!'-'' •■""' ''" "'^" '"'"' ""-' i'"""-' """ se;v:c"oi:c'":;:!;:"lT;;:!KV'' '"h^"'-^ '•" -" '-at int..nded .W gamson and preservatio., Mo-e's "'Z^^^^ ^^ "- '"e"-.^. adopted lor^' c::;!: 17 tierces coudeu.rud in s,o,v W 'a a, ." 1 ^'' "''i''"'"'.'' ''^'^^''ved, th.Te have been o.ily were .nade direct ,0 con.n.i ss ri.. i 4 i " s^b;.;?:, ''"'■ ""''''] ^•"'"'^""•-', «l'en .lelivrie^ missariat .lepartment. sm.isons abioad, can only be ascertained in the com- ^'z:z:^::\:i^:;;:i:::::,':^^y:^^- - -• -"'--nabie ,o co„,..ac,. has bee.. fur the service, but not ci:,,o:n;:b;;/:^.'';,;,:.;:::;'- •"" '"^^•" — «' "•«'- " '"u'et. being lit yeJrl: wr:"""' "'■ ^"" "'^"" '"'' '»• «'^'""- '•■" ">e use of the garrison i., the la., si. Iti .S28 1«2() . i8;jo - ««3. - 1S3.. . i«3;j - The prcsen: coulract price for 1 pound. 4,6;}8 tierces. «.44;? 2.404 •2,G()1 .,788 iVcsh beef supplied to the ..avy at Gibrullur, is 4 ^/. pec not answeiiii.'. Tlic coiitiactoi- sMr,..li..,i ,> .. . ' "'^"''^ ""'"' "'« toiLier .system ling Boaxl „;;dc a >:^^T^^nZ^t^ ZJ^T^ '"" "^" ^1" '''^'"»'- «as ..one lor him to dciive.-. ^ ' ^"""^"^-t"'' <-<'...|.ln.n(;(l that there ;3<),3. U as it .lut |)a.t of the coiitiact lie uus nnl., .,. .. 1 -The .■et..n.s of the .iuanlitie. re, t ,\ i "^"0 , IV 1 ''' ^r''''"?^ should o„ly ,„,,|,l, a cTrl ™ , f ,„ 1 , ' '"",' "' "'^- ""1™", ,l„„ hi. 3?s;,::;™i';;s,:;>"""'" ■^"■^ -"■ ■"■ vi«N.:,.:.,':;,v,r';j'';,ri->^ • J9»). Have |.ct ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 25 from 'r.Vr'' -TV'" '"?"'''. "^"'''•^'■*''"""« ^'''^ 'lirtiT'^ncc in the rute of frei-ht Saltu;, "" "'" ^'""''""?--^'"; ^'«rk ''a« little direct intercourse with ut f)I:J,ui ""1 h" 'k-""'"" "'*'''''' '"■■ "'" ^'""^"-v "♦" '^^■•'"i" quantities P-Ye8, ui i^tptloKl and till! Knij^M jjorts. ,l,>nm!!;i '^''' '^ ""f a';i'«=""> "'c imrt of the officers who n.udc that improper con- Sri:;^::tru;:s^" -* '""^--^-^ '^ '-• "> ^"^ —. o»'thL oi 39.). Are von of opinion there are not many individuals to be found in the naval department who nnj-ht he fully con.p./tent to und. rtake the ntv of cxannnu.g stores when they arrived at the diffc-rent ports ?~I should louttlu ^00 Woul.l it not be easy to have an establish.nent at Cork to examine nro b i mS.e7t a^r'''" 'T "" ^""''"" y-» - form an cstablishmTt tlfee eixZinaLn.rtrT' '■''""•"•. ^^^I'''""" >«" ''^^ ""^ advantage snlS-inn/r "If °"'' ":"^'^"J'"'y i)erson at Cork, assisted hy competent clerks o tl c V ".';.', r'";"""/!"," "!' l--isions that „n.y arrive there forMe co onits than 0,;;!^" ' '''""''' '•" "'""^^ ^"^J*^'^^ '" '''^ examination of more officers l*^:!" U''T."'^''''l ""r'"*''*^^'"'" •''*'"' ''"'t "<'"'d I'e 'ioo/. a year --Yes Cotk^lo IH r'""%^' "'"'■'' ^''"" ^'^^••'' '" "- ^•-'■''» ""> «I''I nent di ed fro,„ 4"S. ll ,.u l,»v,. >M,,1 ,1,, |,,i.|„ ,■„„„ (^^,„,t ,„ I, ,„,,,,^V„ j_^^|_ .l-.l.t -t , Co,k has not the san.e n..ercourse „i,h ,he Mediterranean that 411. Do von think tiiat as sati>fariorv iin iii«n..r»;,.M ,..,1,1 4 1 ■ ,. . im '''"'; ">N'-""" <""■'.'• as a is under the responsibility of two imlivi- lualN .in.l inlrnor pn.sons assistniir then), who have been Ion- arnist„nu,l i „ 4iV (• n f? '"" '"'"" "^"1'^ "' ^'"'-"^ '"•■ ^^■^'^^"'■^ "'at call tlu.re. " ,;;-.;^.onsco:t;q.-^^^^ ii^tlui';..;-';;: "'^'-^ -"^ ^ '"-^^^ ^-'^ - '^:^"' ''^-t i, lu. bee;: ,. adlZ -VIJ in'mbrls aU h'"'' ''"""''^' '""'■■"^^•^'^ '"■•• ^•"^'' ^«'- ^''*^ ''^"-y a.ui navy : l(s, It n.lM.acs dl tl,e services; arn.y. navy, convict and transport service- .-"ay_..t D.pt.urd, the duties were so great ; an assistant to the storekeeper. "^' *^ 4iti. Would ■ Imnii 18 .M '"■ll ib''j4. jfi MINUTES OF E\'inENCK HEFOIIK SELECT COMMITTEE [./((WO Meik, I'.M| IS Mmcli i^,n. 416. Would it be neccssury to lepluce tl.c individual you sent to Cork-'-VV^- Ihce are only two. ,rt,ccrsM, l)e,.ttord yard, l.esidt-s tl,/ captain Hupcrintemlln ■ one .s ti.e master al.endunt. and tlu ,„|,ct the storekeeper. Ti.e nuK^le uUe .!„,; the tiicck, lint that oHiee was aholished. " 417. U'ould it he necessary to frive the individual you .,ent to Cork so laruc a .alaiy as ,^,h,/. a yearr~N.,. I shoul.l think not ; it is' a very diHienIt n Iter ?o arange ; ,t h open,... a ,.ew li, Id thai has ..„t heen considered ^at a St el" :^:;:fSr:i:;z.^;:r ''' ''"^- "-' -" '"^ ^- "^.Heye„rth:tS! 4KS. Might not a prop.-r individual be sent over from Deptlb.d to Cork durintr mc.it tberer-I am n.it aua.e whether be c.n be spi.red fr. .n Dentfoiduitho t Imv.ng an opportiin.ty of consulting the otfuers there '^-CfttoKl u.thout 410. Have you delive.ies going „„ at Deptford and at Cork at tl.c .same time:— he qua.U. us are very «mnll a, Cork ; there are deliveries of salt , .• "vi io „i„., 4].) ' .1 ' ^ "'•'■^"'"""V""' i'h"'o.nh constantly, fron, Deceinber to M^y " DrVlJ T """';"". ''"'"'■^ '" ^'' P^'-'"'"'*^'' h- tbc officer now employed at co£'nou:;'2;:;;:a;'s:S.;'': 't "'^^""'"^ •"^"' •^"■" ^'"^ •- '^--'^'- 422. By whom are the stores trans-shipped .'-By the storekeeper. 4-.,. Uo the peisons en.ploye• -'y. t""t ".e t';:..:;;/';: at Dnmor'r ''"'"' "" ^""^^ "' ^■"'■'^- ■'^'''-- •^"""■'«^'"'- '^ ''"^'"' '" J^livcT then. 426. Supposing he. instead of e.igaging to ship them for Deptford we.e to engage to ship them tor the colonie,,. would not the whole estLbS.ient now en.p oyed m the sh.ppmg and unsln,,i.ing and stoiing be dispensed with L itl e ' e^aminltr. """''' '"■^'' "" ''"'""' "' """' "»''- ••--"' cflective Lde of 4-'7. Might ..ot they be examinc.l before thev we.e put on board : -Would 42«. Ixt the contractor bring them to the establishment at Cork a..d -.Iter exa.n.nation t l,e,e. ship then. ,or their ulterior destination ? -I l^.^: no o a k,ow ledge o. the state ot the >,orcs at Cork, and aui tbe.efore not able to sa whether tb.y are ot suH.c.ent mag.iiiude to contain what is reouired " ^ 429. SuppoMugit .sh<.uld be f<,und out upon trial the.c are not sufficient con veniences might they not be lodged in the eontiactors warel.rses ^ tlu y^": oStl^KTexS: •"" ""'" '•"•■ ""^'^•^""•y «'.at the same provisions went 430-. 1> "Ot the >ecurity of the strict examination of these stores a mo^t imnor- co;if;fS"h:£-rrr;.::rs what he b.scu.t was made until it was n.anufactu.ed under the direc i^ nd .1 mtendenee ot the servants of the down. "rttuon anu suptr- 43J. Tbcrefo.e of late years it has been the practice of His .Maiesty's Xavv to .nanui^ture the b.scu.ts .0 ob.ai.. security f .r the sea.ne.. having wi2:,^,d'; 43j- Are the piovisions ic-iinrj-.Kl :.t I K...tC,,r.i : v^ , ^, , • opened, and all th pieces taken'o;;.:-co.,;aed -^iKr wei^^ ' C ^Zr^U.:: tluown upon a tab,, and examined; .he qua.il.ty of'^salt a.id the' . a'bty of h 434. Where ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THK COLONIES. .7 434- Vn.ere are those provisions ciireil ?— In Ireland i^li' aIp .r •'-^"''"';'>' i ,"'cy «>-e Renerully .hipped at Cork. 4 ,0. A e hey not cured at Cork ?-I hdieve a ^rnlt part are. s:t:::nhrS"s''-^^^^^^^ LusM* uic men caretiilly stowed nwav in tiers w rli iiitta....,.u i.„. .1 tier of t«o ctt.k,, udmittin« of persons pa s n'u fo ,h nnrno^,! 7 ' "" ' ':"'•' iVoin time to time as to then- .stale, whetl n£ re 'i e HZul "It",'."""'' """' «n store iS months, the easks arc .(Neoorxred ,3 1 ;ilnT„ *^' ■ •''''? '''■"'■'*'" time, in that perio.l. No di.stinctionirrLJlci^;''l. ";,'', »"'^^''-' "''""V'"'" DeVttd^-NooE."'"^'' ''"^"""^ '^^^''^■'' ^"" "-^ s»'ippec/fror,;'ff^,o Robert lyuiiam Hay, Ksc). ealled in ; and further Examined. iiiiipsiipiisii- H.'^«?'l '^.V'"'" ^'■"'^'-" !^"" '*''*'' '' '" '"• "'"'^'- ""-' '"^"'1 of the medical staff-'- [The xtimc na.\ read.] 441. What arc the duties performed by the inspector of health which shonll seem o render It desirable he should be continual v in atten In x at^^^^l^^^^^ I lie duties ot the inspector of health are to visit ■,]] ... 1 . P"'t.' - ... er provisions .hen suspected or reported to I.e unh^a hy^r t I lln kno«led-e that may not be re.,ui,ed by any .e.-inuMitd s J I, "h' 1 'M-utiie troopsiuthegarrison?' -lie should ieirccifhS o^^^^^ ;""! l.y that means pos.sessed of all the souncs of ii.tdl I- " o ,ich 1% v ' l..sacces, as .0 the appearance of diseases m the neim,.;::;;in^.: ^ i ^ ^•'^^'""^ 44... Is It neces,sary he should be acpiainted uitl. the o..::.:,,.. h'.vs :- Yr tor tiie perloimance of purely civil duties .= - J5v „o means """"• 447. You have staled that experience has shown in several of the colonies that there t/irX, 1C>^J .irili i8j4. "'"I. UlIU, m I 4- Hob, 1 1 «,!/. 38 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE UEFOUE SELEUT COMMITTKK '%. tliLTc wns III) iiu'oiivniicncj! iirisinn lioiii the mixture of civil anil iiiilitu 1 8 Muroli iS;)4. of this iltHcii|itioii? — In tlio.sc cuses spe.-iliitl l)y Mr. Ilusitiison il felt 448. And it was from a ry fiinctionH u: iiicoiivt'iiii'iice of til thti Lieiit.-cti!. Gr.:. .In ',i II,-, . senile 01 those niconvcinences 10 sipuratf thf two dcpartimnls more com|)l«ltlv timn before?— I Imvx'^no (loiiht ot It, (or sncli was the liad ntimc wliich from tiii- im|terfect udmiiiistrution of the qimranliiic re>>ululions (iilmdiur hud ticqiiiitd, thut lew vessels proctedinK up the Mediteiruneuii would go into (nbialtur if they couhl avoid it, for they could iiut oiiluin prutKiiic in a port of the M( (lilerranean". 44((. W'liut is the salary of tlie inspector of health ?-£. /joo. 4,'»t». Is that clear of all otiier emolunieiilsr— He has no other emolument whutever except his lialt-puy. 4)1. Do you know wiiether this inspector of health is uiulcr the captain of the porti'-- \es, no doiiht lie is. 4.-,->. W ho are tiie t«o olliccir, fl!lin^ ||,c otVice of supeiiiileiident and master of <|Uiiraiitiner -The superintendent i> Captain Siiirruli; and the inspector ol health Is Dr. DiDadldoi. 45;{. Is Dr. Uroudfoof a military man? -lie belongs to the medical deoart- meiit ol the army. ' 4.^)4- If lie is a militiii V man, how do you u^et rid of your objection to the ein- pli.ynienlol imhtaiy men ?— lie is not on the medical st'ulf of the f^arrison. 4.).'»- He is on half-pay? — ^ es. 4.'i(). And liable to l)e called upon at any time r — Yes. 4.')7- "ow many years was Sir (ieorjj;e D(m at (Jibrnllar?— .Seventeen or iS years. 4,'i><. Sir George Don inav be presumed to hav( n very competent knowled.re of whatever i-_ neces.sary for tlie disehar>;e of the duties of the various departnTents under him r— There may he . I." it one that rerpiires considerable practice to acquire a knowledge of it? — It requires a knowled;:e of the rejiulations and practice of the iieij^hhouriii!^ ports. 4(11. Arc the (|iirtiantinc rei,'uliitioiis of the Mediterranean ;:overnfd by a inuluiil system ol a^iiienu nt Ik tweeii the dilTerent parties. reir,ilui,.(| hy nde> of jiieir own? -\ es ; soiiu years ii!;o iin iirraii;>ement was made witji the French >;overnment and with the ports ol tlie Medilerraneaii, for assimilaiini; our practice with theirs. As at (iibraltar, there was only u quarantine of observation ; it was nut included in this anaiigemcnt. 4(i.'. Did the otlur powers in tin Mediterranean refu.se to take praticiuu from (ubiiiitiir pre\i(iuslv .' -\ e>. alij. Have they since the alteration admitted pratique from (iibr'tltarr — I believe s-o. 4(14. Do yon recollect the period v^heii eiearaiice.s from (Hbndtar were not admitted at lA;:horii" -It uuisl have been prior to the iiitiuduclion of these re<»nlati<)i)s. 4O,-,. Do you not conceive that a regular and perniam nt otiicer, such as you have described Dr. Droadloot to be, more likely to ensure a strict perroriiiaiue of Ins duties than a military oUicer. liable to be e\chan^.•(l, and uho may li.ne par- ticular theories of his own as to eoiitauii^n, and so on? - Xo doubt. 4ti(i. Are you aware ulatlier Dr. IJioadloot considers bim.sell iiiuki the direc- tions ol the superiiiteiident ol the poi I ? — I conceive ..,0, I.ieuteiKiiit-eoioncI (norgc Judd Harding, called in; and Kxamincd. 4(17. YOU have lately returned fiom (iibrallar? -About two years since. 41'tS. I'Hd you eomiiiaiul the artillery there?— The enjj;iiieers for u short time. 4ti(|. The stuiekee|)er"s department was under your control? — I was a nienibrr, lor the time, ol'tli. board of respective oHiceis, of which the ordnance storekeeiur «as one. 470. r>y a Ut'tiiiii (Il livercd in iVnm ihe {)n!i!:!ii(--!iflic it ajificars th.ii st(;rek(C|)M- ictcives bio I. a year .silaiy; it also appears by another Return, lliat in iS.'jj 1,1s .salary w,is only ."(b?/-; do you know upon' what j;rouiids it was increased: — In tlie storekeeper's department the salary is increa ot service. I,y irjt TIk ON MILITARY KSTAUMSHMKN JS IN THE COLONIES. 39 47'- "•»-• y the ordnuncc, und the uniiiiuiiition for the troopx. ' 47'J- 'I'liere is liesides 11 deputy tind six rierkt, do yon conceive that that ''' '^""'' '^3*' estnlilihliinent is neeensuryr — I Jtlioidd eonsider they were neeessary. 47.}. Have they nnicli to do? — Vos tlie ileturns nrnde are very nunicro:)H, in order lo keejt up a ktiowledfie of the stores. 474. Vou think tiiey aw lully employed r — Quite 10. 47''c I^o you think it would he prnetieahle to pJHCo under the .storekeeper's depurlnient tiie depot of naval stores at (iihraltarr— Vcs, 1 slxadd think it niinht ; I am not fpiite iiequainlcd willi the whole extent of the naval stores; I should think it might l)e niunaued. 47ti. 11117 ■'"' ''"'* deseri[)tion of stores that a person in the ordnance store- keepers department eonid have a sufticient knowlcdfjc of r— (Certainly. 477. Have you ever iHcn in the naval store at (idiraltar ? — Ves, I have hcen there. 47H. What distance is it from the ordnance store.' — Ahout half n mile. 47!l' i-* it ■s(. iniieh iis liah a mile ? -Ves, fully that. The naval stores are kept in the dockyard, and tlie ordnance are kept in the town. 48(1. The burrackniasler's department comes luider the ordnance board } Ves. 4«l. Of whom did tiuit hoard consist? — Of tlie commandini: officer of tho nitillery, the eounniiiidini; oDicer of the eii;iineer.s, and tlie storekeeper. 4S.'. Were you a meinher of that hoard r — Part of the time. 4S;;. What are the definite duties of that hoard to u Inch you allude? -It is called the hoard of respective officers ; they take all the duties of the ordnance department relatinj; to the stores and expenses. 4S,|. is the correspoMiknce I.etween the olhcc at home und the garrison, respect- ing those stores, curried on hy that hoard - -Vcs. -jS/-,. Is tliere any person actini; as permanent .secretary to the bourd .' N'l, • tiie deputy storekeeper used to he secretary, l)ut he is not now u memher. ' 4S(i. My uiiom is the correspondence carried on?- -It is written out in the first instance hy the storekeeper, or one of the mend)ers, and re-uritten afterwards by some ot the clerks. ■ \^7. Is there any separate estal)lishinent of clerks bclon^in^ to this hoard, or do I hey make use of the clerks belonjiiiiir to the storekeeper's denftrlment'?— i'iiey make use of the clerks in the storekeeper's department. 4^8. Are the indents sent home from (iihraltar, and are they prepared by the hoard with or wiilioiii tiie jirev ions sanction ol the iV'vernor ---The deniancis for .stores are made out hy the commandiii;r (nfrineer. the commandin.' oflicer of artdlery, and the storekeeper ; the yearly demands yo before the board of respective oflicers, and are then fonvanled home to the Hoanl of Ordnance. 4S(), 'I'lic indents for naval stores do not come before them H No. 4()o. I''or tlie purpose of takina care that not more than a certain (piantity of stores are reipnred, the storekeeper would make out his estimate of what would he requued, and tliat would he submitted by him to the commanding officer of eivi- ueers, and the artillery officer ■— Ves. 4()i. Woidd they siun his reiiuisition as approvin<; of it.'— Ves, they si-jn it lu'lore it i;oes home. ■ " 4()J. So thai while each officer is res|)oi)sible for his own duties as connected with the artillery, en>;ineeriiiuj and storekeeper's department, he has, hy isttcclin.' the board, a superinlendaiice over the de|mrtuient of the ordnance at Iup'c ?— -Ve.s" a "iciierul siipeiiiiteiidiiiice. '^ .|t)3. Ihe ci.nstruction of this board is somewhat similar to what you heard to he the construction of the Hoard in I'all-mall ? — Ves. 494- l^acii respective otlicer has his own responsibility, while all his acts liable lo he known to th ■ officers of the hoard? — Ves. 4t)')- In cases where ne.v works or re|)i!irs to any extent are to be carried un, aie those submitted lo the hoard ?— Ve.s, to a certain dcfire.- as to stores; luit thev are sent limine to be determined upon by the inspector-jienurul of fortifications. " 4t>b. Aic there any rep(,rts made lioui lli/s board us lo tiie propriety nt those works beinn carried (m?— No; as it is a mililarv rpiestion. Ihe storekeeper does nut iiitertere ; the communication is with ' ' " mav have are 4!t7- '^ it not the rejiiilar ciiaiiiiLl tiiat tl It se re o.i\. K J ports should come home from the board 30 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFOKii SELECT COMMITTEE '8 M;.uli it(j4. could be .nade i„ that estaffrem t^H^ard ^ \ tou7thtkn^ " "'"^""" he sreat extent of the barracks, wind, are in dfent oarts nf 'th '^""««'l"''"'^f «» have a great deal to do. omerent parts of the garrison, they 499- l^oyou not know tliat the barrarl:.mn«,»«r „» <"i i. bunding „„!„,, „„„,G3la,> v.. ""^ J"?'""'- tand th<- climate so we I as the Maltese, in the first place. They cannot stand e.xposure to the ..un lu the summer months in the same way the Maltese do. but 1 think they might be trusted much better. J](iti. Do you think a Biitish soldier, consigned to duty at Malta exclusively and pennanenlly, would be as contented as when he has the hope of bein. brom ht back to his own country.— Decidedly not. 'c«"„ mou^ui mIaJ: /^""''' ""'. "'" ""'.''T "* =*^''' " '""'■I>s confined to exclusive service in -Cer'tainl ''"" ^ "' "" ''""'' '' '" """ '*^''''' ""* '" "''^ "'""'^'> ^-^'vice r .5(i8. yVould not those officers be inclined to become settlers, and en-m-re in trade, and lose the character a British officer has at present of attendi ."'Ifeli- Mv.:ly o h,sdutie.s as an officer ?-I think he would thru, connexions lli.'ht enter into mercantile speculations. ""{,"1 5ve.e raised ,t were distinctly nnderstoo.l they were for service i?, that colony only ?-No, I think troops raised on purpose tor service in Mai would have no right to be discontented. ' ' '^^""'^ 5-p. Is it not the fact, that soldiers serving in the Mediterranean, having rhean laovisions, great abundance ot wine, and those luxuries which soldiers are tbn o generally speaking, hke their stations very much '^-l never met with a solS v^[ .^v^ a llZerihne!" ''"'"'''' '" ^''""" """■ "^ '''' '^^'^ '" '' '^ twclve.nomh^; to ult \' I'xlV'-^' n-^ *"" *'r'' .«''^*"»»Ses stated in the former question are to be had at Malta .— W.nes and Iru.t are extremely cheap, but I cannot otter n opinion with respect to provisions, such as bread, &c .,J'-'^' ■' V'^'i ?'"'""• '" *""f ' '^"^^ '^ ''°'"''^'" ^".i"3« ^'•'^"ter advantages in these tat,ons.n the Mediterranean than any other of the colonies r-Tlunr i , cvS iVst^nce ' " " ' '"'"""" '■'"""'' ''"" '''' ^^■•-^^' ^'"^'^'^ "'• ^'-" ^oylZX'r ,u ■'^^^i ^ V ' f. ^T'^' '■''""''''; "'■ ''"'' '" ^*'''^'' ^'"'" "•"«?« «^"i"V greater advnnta.-es ban the .North American colonies or the Cape of Ciood il6pe?-I an n able to say ; I never was m iliose colonies. ' "^ ^'^ 577. Is there anything in Malta which would prevent men entering for a l.m, ed peno.l ot hve or ten years, to serve that time and return ? Do yuu thh.k ha "ouhl b. n object generally desired by men, to return after a service of live e Ji'-e vea'Is-'"" "" '"'""'^ '""'•' '■"''" "" ^"^^'^'^ '-^'S""'^"^ '- «^-'vc thc;e lor .578. Having stated that a soldier is tired of his quarters in a twelvemonth, be ';^ ' u- '"'-'' '"■' • "" " - ""; \''"^ "-""^"'^ ^"•'^ ^^"l "'to the Mediterranean fo. 14 o ... years sometimes r- -I do n<;t know e' :,t period they are sent for ;w|). s It not a common occurrence that soldiers manifest a spirit of discontent and insubonhnation, wi,o have been a considerable time in the Alediterra ea '- i>o, 1 cannot say that. ,580. Vou stated, in answer to a former question, you are of opinion the officers ot a regiment raised tor coloniaUervice wonhl I.e of an inferi.n- descrip on to those belonging to .Mher corps ; u n were made a rule of the service verier dhu a great portion ot the colomes should be garrisoned by troops raised fo .1 specihc services, and the oHjcers were to ''cir. uiate thr^>ugh Siosr.ti ^. „ s th ongb the legimen.s ot the hne, are yon o, opunon yon vn.nl.l „.,t 10^,10 and as available a body ,^ ofh.ers as under the eMsting .x-ulalions ■— Pr oU blv yon nnght have as good officers, but I think yon woul.l not have as -ood .nen ^ -,M. Lxclus^ve 01 the inleriorily of the men, an.l in addition" to the doubt whether the officers would be as good as they are un.ler the present sy. tn, i not a most valuable advantage lor any government to have the power of makin! US troop, avail d.le tor general service f- Ln.loubtedK . Snppos ng, for n nce^ tha the '.reek i.laiuN were attacked, yon could not sen.l reinfoa-e.nen f om Malta; nor. m ca^ ol an atta.k on (.ibraltar, conid von avail yourself of a force raised expressly lor Malta. " • <■ "■ a lou. .5Sj. In your estimation, uo.ild any moderate p(cuniarv saving in the expense :i.S:~E3:;:r "" ''"^ '-•• "^' "^'^"^^"'"-^ "■'"^" >- '-e jusf ..ow ,5«J. U ould not the last objection you had stated, as t<. the etHeu ney of the troops be '"Mured .1 the troops were raised for service in tiu. Meditiranean generally:- shoul.l tninl. the troops raised ever, forth.. Mediterranean .-ener"l wonh. never be so (Heciue as tn.op. that came from this country periodiodlv " .584- llHw you ever obstrvvd that regiments that had been long in the "Medi lerran.Mn Ir.ve beeoine nu mei, ni ^ - Ih.. . xhaustion of the .Malt.-se snm ner months, and the lac.lity ol indulging in li.p.or, may and do mrtnciwe both the eon slitntions and appe.iranee ol a n ^inieat. " -,S ,. Ale you ol opinion that any reductions may be made in the str.rekeei.er's depintm.ni r— N-me can be m.-id.-. I shonhl tnink. "•^tcp^l s 5.N0. U inle yo'i were af ' .... .,. think in" the existing establishment there "as ample employment ',r.M' ;'. ,0.- '. the dilierent olhces.'-l think so. 587. Have ON MILITAiiY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. or 33 tive office"s'tH?V''" ^'^'''^^ ^^ <>'-J"«"ee here frequently written to the respec- aesinng the n to propose any reductions that could be made P-Yes '^'''"*"*=^' effected p'-Ve", !h?; I'Z unlSy "" '"' '''''' ^^'^'^''^'''^'^ -"»"'»> -«''' '^^ great hesitatir ' ^'"' ''"' "" "'"■■"""• ^ 'V^''^ «" this point with mihiii-c^sy?Ko^,tcrr^,:V'M'"'ii'"^ '"'•^•^' ''" y- -pp-^ «^ ployed bv bi^na i?^^ J J.ooo men, with British othcers, might with safety be em- acSonttii'.SbfrS /'"'r^^^^^^^ ""^>' "'-^'^ employed / Wodd garrison does. ^ ^ ^^"^^ '''*"''' ""' '"'«^^'^'- «o ^eli as a regular -ncSf^^ri^^SilltJjf:;;;^;;!!:;;: '"-P'-^^^ - -H o^ces u„der our govern. exSe-u'SrShelXr^'E^ **"' T'^^T^"^' ""'^ '"^^ '' -"''^ ^^ Certainly ' '^^"*"-'"' employed ,n our civil dep.iriments ?- '"^" »■ 6 10. Do Colonel ' Sir G. fV/iitmore. M April 1834. 1;. if 34 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Colonel Sir G. WhUmorc. 610. Do you know whether any Maltese are employed as clerks in any of these departments ? — Yes, there are some. ■' " April .834. . fi.V;, '^'^ f'^y .Receive a different rate of pay from that of En^h'slunen sent out "" to fill the same situations ?— I cannot tell. 612. What is your opinion of the general efficiency of the Maltese whom vou have knovvn employed in the civil departments, to perform the duties of their ofhces?— I think very hi^lily indeed of them. 613. Are the Commiitee then to conclude, that you are favourahlc to the exten- aion of the employment of the native Maltese in situations which they may be competent to fill ?— Undoubtedly. ^ ^ (ii4. I see the foreman of the masons put down at 8'.>/. 14*. a year- was he an Englishman or a Maltese, when you were there ?- A Maltese, I believe 61,5. I observe the ordinary pay of a labourer is 1 s. and 1 s. } d. per day • was that the ordinary pay of labourers in the island when private individuals einplovcd them ?— Ihat I cannot say ; they work from sunrise to sunset, which, I believe is longer than in any other place. ' 616. Do you know the ordinary rate of pay for labourers employed in the vine- yards and other works?— No, I do not; I have heard they have been emnloyed II the naval hospital at 6ar a poi lion of the garrison might be composed of maruies to be posted there for the general service of the garrison, not as to the general service of the Mediterranean :—\ es, I think they might. 62.^. Is it the practice at ( Jihiallar to train the aarrison to work the guns '—They are practised occasionally at tlie guns. 62(i. All tiirj corps at Gibraltar ?-— Ves, and at Malta also. 627. 'I hat is practised in all the garrisons .' — Ves, 628. In what manner is llie training of liie infantry to the use of the guns carried on r— 7 liey are put under tiie temporary command of an otiicer of artillery. ()2(). Elave you had an opportunity of showing whether that is with the satisfac- tion and concurrence ot the commanding officers of infantrv ?— It is out of my de- parlment, so that my answer is latlur by guess than other«i.se ; I should think there would be no objeclion on the part of the commanding i.lhcers of regiments, 6'3"- Vou stated that in 1S24 and 182,';, when you were at Malta, you considered the amount of the garrison Hmdeo you know what is the number of men employed daily upon guard and on the works of Malta ?— I can tellyou how many were employed about that period in Vaietta, but I do not know the number on the other side of tlie water 634. What number should you consider ?— I know they had barely" two nights in bed out ot three. ^6 (J35. I)o you consider that to '-c harder service than is usual or proper for soldiers on garrison duty ?— If less than two nights, it is decidedly hard duty ()36. I wish to know whether during the time you alluded to, of 1824 and iS'^i the hardship upon the garrison was not in consequence of the great sickness of the 95lh regiment?— I remember perfectly well the sickness of" that re-Minent but 1 believe the guards also were more numerous ut that time than they were subse- quently. ■^ 637. Do you consider, then, that the establishment which you considered inade quate at that time would be adequate to the performance of the garrison duties now in consequence of the reduction of the number of guards?— I think you could not reduce the present garrison. ^ 638- Are you aware what the amount of the present garrison is?— The present strength ot the garrison disposable for guards is about 1,236 men of the four regiments of the line. The Maltese regiment is confined to police duties gene- rally, the coast towers, and Fort Chambray in Gozo, and in peace time the coast towers may be considered police duties ; they are to assist the quarantine 639. You do not then consider that any reduction can be made in the strength ot the present garrison of Malta ?— I should think noc. 640 Do you think that garrison is fully adequate to the duties to be performed ? --1 did not thmk so when I was there, because I could not get sentries when I usked for them. " 641. The question refers to the increased force since that time?— I should think the garrison I have been speaking of, which produces the 1,236 men, is sufficient. We have reduced the qimntity of our stores very much, particularly of powder and much of the ammunition, which required guards, has been removed to the large depots, so that many guards have been reduced. (142. Docs that statement as to the iinmbcr of men refer to the amount in iSai or that of the garrison in 1833, which consists of a larger forcer- It refers to the end of 1827 principally. I left it in the year 1820, so that I cannot speak posi- tively to the number after that period. " ' 643. Do you consider the establishment in 180,,, which was 2,(u(i, was not more than sufhcicnt for the duties to be performed ?- At that time I should not think It was ; that is, after deducting the non-el^tctives. 644. You do not consider that aii estal)lishment producing that number of etJec- live men was more than sufficient for the duties to be performed ?— I should think It inigiit be. If it produced that number of really effective men. 64,5. Were you at Malta in 1818? — Yes. (i4ti Arc you aware that the garrison was reduced 1,100 men in that year ?— Wo, i do not remember that. •' 647. Were the people employed at the dockyards, Maltese ?— A "reat many of them were. " ■' 645. Von stated that the Maltese made good clerks ; would they be ready to accept situations m other colonies ? - Yes, if attended « ith eniohiment (.49. In the West Indies would the Maltese be as liable to diseases as the British?— I should think not. 6.r,o. Do y()u suppose the clergy would accept situations in the Catholic colo- nies aiid in (iibraltar r— \os, I do. 651. Would such employ ncnt relieve the distress of the Maltese in some de- gree r-In a very small deg 10. I apprehend you would not dispose of above 20 in that way. ' (i,V-'. Suppose the quarantine restrictions were entirely done away at Maha and coinmun.cation opened will, the Levant and IJarbar'y, would it increase the trade ot Malta am relieve the distress of the inhabitants '-Ycr,, I should think it would ; but If we do away with the lazaretto, it would put us in perpetual (luarantine with every other power. 1 r 1 «».35. , 2 Colone! Sir G. mUmore. 32 April 1834. 36 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Mr. fVHliam Vimmin. Mr. William Cumming, cnlled in ; 65;^. ARE you ill the Commissarmt ?— Ye.s. and Exumined. sa April 1834 654. Wi.ntrank do you hold f-I)e,,utv Coniomsary-jreneral. •.^-j. Mow ong were you stationed at Midta?— At.out three years and .1 h..lf ^^. How Ion, .s .t sine., yon .eft the island P^lVelve y^l^ Sit n 1,^ provisions, and the re.t wil!!. fiesh ' ' ' '^ ""' "'"-' '" ^''^' "''■'='' ^•'"' ««" traet^"" 'I^r.l'.n.rr;'"" '^'''V*^"'-"^"" «"l'Pli'^'' «iH> »resh provisions ?-|W con- Zt -n "-""'"''""■'* '"-'"J^ '■^•'^ «^"tHe iron, Afriea or Sicii;, or from wliere hev . Lree .U|,|,ly or .al, |,„„i,i„„., m" a » f S'f,,'';' '^ l-"™"""",, ,„ top ti.inl'';i„t'Si;;°' "■°" '"" ■'''""""""» '» ""• ""•'"»- '-".Be,,,™, =_, .i,„„y ^»oui.| he abundantly sufficient i>>< it.istd. J he apparatus l.hmkso^'"' """'■ " ^""''*^'^'"'^''-' — K -» expenditure would ensue r- .cSi.t.£:i!2'K:S;^':.;;|J"- -V'^?"^ /"^ ""■ "'"'^ --• -v i.. n..uUin,tv "h< lever bet S, he. I -'.''^"h ^''"\* T' '". '^*'''"' ' ''"-^^ «'- «,nM„in.:a „„!'''' 7". ''''-"'• , ' <<""« "'^' ""vy had a bakery, but 1 was n,., of ic^rie i:;; o:!;t;ki?j: """"" "^^ '"' ^ "^^ '"""^'^^ ""'"• "-• ^--'. --* 673. TLcre were also a certain number ol troops necessarily on guard .or tiie StttC ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 37 Um'i ,n!''"i 'V!l ""-' ''"V'T^""^ "•" ""* "^"""^ *'"^"'^'- " «*'^'' «na"-ines fron, the navy mat ffii."r(l( (I tlic; niivy Imkery, or jinrrisoii troops. 074. In your opinion cun biscuit be supplied l)y contract us cheaply us you nnulactur.. .tat your bakery ?-Tl.at calculation vvL .nade. but not by^ ". u^nd he e u'r.:' ."' y ''•'■ Tr- ,1 ^'''"^^'-' " ""-^ '""^'^ ""' satistuctorily to s// ,,;*'". "PI'''*-"\'"'' ^» "'•^ Connimsary of Accounts in the year 1«2I or con,;:... I'"' ''^'^'"l,!""^ '.<'<<" .'>• "^ «:'« a little cheaper than it could be done by contiuci, culculatnig the price oi bread in the town. ^ ()75. And was the (|uahty ot your biscuit superior to that obtained by contract? ;;;:vn"Tn;';;t'. "'"'' """ "'^ "■""*' " """ «^'"""'^' ^•"^" ^^^^--^ *>'- tL 67fi. Did you purchase flour, or corn lor f^rindiny ?— Corn : wc received ir fr„m the governnient ol the island, because the supply J corn at that ti, e was 1 mono bul^govenuil::;;: ^ *'" '^"'''■'™"'' ^ "" "■"' '^"-'^ "•"•''•^"'^^ ^"'•" ""« ^"'- '"-^1 ci.'^^^^nro;;;:::: •t:;.:;;^ ^"'"^'"""^ ''""' America ?-No; it was pnn. 678. Is that equal in .juulity to the American corn?— I believe it is as gocnl but t does not look so w nte. It used to look brown, but i. was the finest b ead hi he island, an,l the people would buy it ol the soldiers. ..overLr.r"' r' '"''''""' ""I' '"■■". ''"'y '■■'^^'-That belonued entirely to the g< vc ment. It was a monopoly in the hands of the governn-ent. and we received It at the fiovcrnmenl price. I cSn'; ™ '""""P^ly "" •"'•««-•<• t^^xiots .^-No, it was i,roken up about the time 681 In making these contracts for fresh j.rovisions and other suonlips was there much det,,,! required ; were tlu n- many persons employed as clerk ' -No ,i was done m the co.mnon way. by publishing an a.lver.isement. that at a certain Z and hour sealed tenders would be receive.l, as they do at the Treasury here. ^ nddi.in'n. r f ;"'" "'V' " ''"' '"" i"'|H'S'-- «'" the Conunissariut department any great n Iditional labour^-h was necessary to hll up a dce.l, which was the contrac lu. bound the two parties; it was executed in duplicate, and copied in he S^g'uie ^.;::,f urrl:.'"' '"^^"'"""-^ ""' "^"^'^'^^ ''-' '-- "• '^ '- ^- hy thi^-con;:.:;;;!^^^^:!,!;::'''"^ '"" ""^''""^ '" " «'^^" "«'"' -- --^^^^ (.84. It appears by this Return there ure at Malta a deputy commissary-L'cneral H.. assistant commissary-general, and four deputv a.ssistant eommissaries-^eneral a principal storekeeper, a deputy storekeeper. \uu\ an undei-storekeo, tr you dlo a', M 1^ -"V"''^^ "" -'?»-''^'""<"' - '"— -y for the suppl • o, th Jir" .H s, and the same person has to go troin one place to another on the .same day • he lour d,.pu y assiMunts ure en.ployed, one of the military chest, one of the ^nly bak. ry one ot the .•urrespondence, and one of the general itoies ; to each of these except the correspondence, there is a det.il of complex accounts attached. .8-.. Wonhl ,1 he possible to a7-, As I understand, the army and navy are supplied uilh monev bv the ^..umm^.^sa^at acpartiiienlr — Ves. " • . «.88 Might not both services be «s easily supplic.l with provisions by the bise '""'I'l T. ' ""'y ^'""''*""'' '"'"'^' ^"'^ ■''^''^ '••'-■« "'•'-■ salt provisions and 1. sunt, and that the coniniissury could take an account of and .leliver to the navy ^''^^' ' ■' (i8o. Would Mr. IfiUiam Cumming. 03 April 1834, '3 iSy, 38 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE u,,r^r\ ^^{J- ^^""''' ""' ^'">'<^^<^'-'n ronsidfrable savins? in the eKnfin.pnf»i.„ » ur i miUamOmmnrr. n,cnt f-l slioul,! think it Hould. ^ ^ '"^ "'"•*' c-^nbhsh- « April ,814. , .''''"• ^^? >'•?" """"^ ","y ''''.i^ction t(, th.U mode of supply ?_I do not know- a.w ^4- ohjrctm... far her than the objection of the person employed in the olJ.e • e ubl^J^ mei.t. I understood it uns proposed some years a.ro ' tstablish- ^y. Do you know of any inconvenience that could arise to the service ?-^ JT r'!.'"* ^"? ''""■ '"'"■■ ^"^ '""•""" ^^y '' "■"'^ "°' '-•"'■>•!«' i"t« e'Vcct some years by tis t.^p:o?u.e^.: •;o;;^'itr' ""^ "" "•^^ "'"'^^"^ ^'°^'^'"^'^'^^' -'^'''-' (.95. ^V•ould it not have the elVect of din.inisiung the .luty of the jiarrison if th .e storehouses u ere dunin.shed in nun.her ?-Not very n>ueh. because they r^ i langes ot buddings, and one sentry guards several stores. ^ (M)(5. Are they stutio.,ed in .lifferent parts of the island ?-Yes. the i«n..es of b Id ngs are. 1 he troops are in separate places ; one portion suppose at "in In TeJai q'rijrs"' ''"'"' "" ''''""' "^ *"'" ''' P"'^"^'^' '" ^' conveni.f lli 097. Is there a sentry placed over the flour and the mills 5— Yes Oph. It the article ot flour were provided by contract, would not it so far di .nmish the duty o the garrison ?-All the pro/ess of turning onio bread is done .n the same budding. It is inclosed in a square, an,l all the ppara s . on tamed in it; the ovens, kneading mills, and every part of the a,2 t^ 099. And in that building you might make bread for the navy as well as the ,00. If the Naval Victua hng Hoard were abolishe.l. might not the navy be sun- i;ake^yZ^h"n:;7 ^'^'"'"'^'""-^^-"--t -»i bread-might be macfe in tl.'at 701. Without increased expense?— Except a little more labour. 70a. In point ot tact, yon think the naval victualling agent and his deoartmeiu m.ght^.abohs ed altogctherp-I am not sufliciently"acVminte' "^"PP''"! ?-~At Calonna, on tiie harbour. C\?k,iulrlw""''~^ '""""' '"■'-''^'^'-•'y ^'^y ' ^ '-•'''"«^'' they come chiefly from 709- Could not the naval victualling department supply tiie garrison with all articles of provision ?— I should s.ipjwse they could. *' J UK Hut at all events one or other ol the establishments might be disoensed with ^-I think one imgh, be so arranged in the island ; but if you^had to ' d ,u troops from the island, they might be found deficient. If the propositioJ.Ts. whe- ® ' thcr ON MILITAHV ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 39 thcr the two departments could not be conjoined, witli a little addition 1 think tliev could. •' 711. Could not you undertake to su|)ply the army and navy with the same esta- blishment that now exists ? — As far as receivinf^ quantities of salt provisions arrivinj; from Et)t-land, putting them in the magazines, and giving receipts for them ; and when the nuyy required it, I could give tliein i,(iO() or 10,000 casks of provisions, or bags of biscuit ; I think I could do that, with the commissariat department as it now exists, only some additional labourers migiit be required, as I have stated before. Mr. William Cummin^, an April iSj ■,. Jov'iH, 24* dit Aprilis, 1834. LOUD VISCOUNT EBUINGTON, IN THE CHAIR. Captain fVi/liam Henry Penny, called in ; and Examined. J 12. WHAT regiment have you been serving in?— The 80th and Q4th • I was adjutant of the Soth six ycfirs in Malta. -^ 71J. How nmny years were you in Malta altogether ?-Six vears ; fron. the latter end ot the year 1821 to the latter end of ti.e year 1 827 ''f; What w|H.s the general conditio!: of the regiment as to health, while you were there ?- 1 he .rst year that I was there, in the sun.mer, it was not good ; but otherwise very good nuleed, equal if not better than it woul.l have been in En-land ll.c hrst sun.mer the rcg.ment was particularly sickly ; I cannot convey n.y mc"aning better than by .tatn.g the n,en were in the hospital, on an averagj^ three time! over ; it was an excessive hot summer. ^ hei^J^'jIi^iillk^'LlTT ''^'^""'^ """' '^ ''' •^"'"''^^ ''^y «- '" ^^"- JiO. Do you consider the climate at Malta on the whole as healthy ?—Ves 1 do, particularly so. -^ ' ' 717. You were there, wer you not, in the years 1823, 1824 and 1825?- Yes 718. Was there any complaint in those years of the troops being ovcrworke.l' iiii-fficieni ""^""'"" ''"""'' '" '""' ""'' ""' "^'y ''"'''y ' '" ''''■•' '^ "•'*' "'■»•»' 7KJ. H<.w long were they so very sickly ?-I should think they were so for nearly eight or ten months. ^ 720. Then it was not in a)n.e.,uence of tlie weakness of the garrison, but m consequence of the accidental circumstance of the sickliness of the .,uh re-nmcit that your regiment was overworked ?— Yes, it was. "-o'lntiu, 721. What year was that in?— In the year 1824. Ti-2. IJut on the y.itb regiment arriving the duty was not very great ?-Not par- 72,i Can you furnish the Committee with any detail of the amount of duty takendaily by he garrison ?-I will confine myself, in the lirst instance, to two distiicts ; the detail lor guard in Valetta and Florian amount, as far as I can recollect, to between 270 and 2S0 men daily. 724. Aluhattiniedoyoumean?— l-\.r the six years that I was there, there was hard y any reductu.n ; and as far as 1 can recollect, the regiment in Cottonera amounted to between 8.-, and (,0 men, say between 80 and 00; I am only sheakin- Irom memory. ■' '' '■'^'"".-< 72.'5. Would yon say upon an average that they amounted to ];o a day ^-Yes 1 should say so deculedly. ' ' ■' ' ' 7;-i(i. Thai is for the one islan.l of Malta ?-Yes, it is. The island of (Jo,o I'orts ManoLl and l.gn. are lun.ished with detachments proportionate to the number ol men ie(|uired tor guard. 7'^7.. "ow many nights uere the soldiers in bed ?-They were generally two nights m bed and one on guard. ] <. ^ 7jS. Has nut a soldiu 011 guar.!, in point of lact, a good deal of rest, altiiou..h hf ism his accoutrements .'-I can hardly say that ; he mounts sentry two hoins outot Mx; my concept!,).., as a military man of 24 years stundhig, "is, that tuo nights in bed is a ve.y hnr p.oporlion ot .-est ; but 1 think less would be ve.y ha.d Capt. H'ilUam H. I'enny. 94 April 1834. 0.25. F 4 729. In 40 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE lyUii.J'Tpmny. jg^S^" '" ''*"" ^'" ^''^ ^"" '"'* ^^"» ^"^ '♦"'ft M""" o" the ,st of January H April 1834. ,, 73»- .'» the number of men on duty daily were considerably reduced, miKht not the Harrison bear a proportionate retluction H-As far as I can ludire of tlic ditferent works at Malta, I do not tiiink that they would admit of reduction 73 •• In the case of their being reduced, mij^ht not the garrison bear a reduction also ''—ires. It they were reduced the garrison might Ik' reduced in proportion 73^- jou hold in your hand a memorandum of the nucnber of men for a bat- tu ion who maybe considered iion-crtective, do you not?-Ve,s, I do; it is as lollows: a battalion consists of 41)2 privates, the casualties amount to i8i; de- ducting that number Irom 49.2, leaves for actual guard 309. 733- State in detail to the Committee what arc the lion-ertectives, and from what cause they are so?— I'licre are acting corporals, 18 ; officers servants and batmen, ;jo. 734- How many officers are there to a battalion ?— To tiie service compunies one lieutenant-colonel, one major, six capldins, thirteen subalterns, includin-' the adjutant, one surgeon, one assistant surgeon, one paymaster, and one (luarter- master. ' 735. How many does that amount to ?— To 25. 736 Now go on uith the next item ?- Attending the officers' mess, three: hospital orderlies, tour; sick and convalescent, on an average, •?'; • tailors 1 «; • shoemakers, 1 2. " * -^ ' 737- p<'f8 "lot the number of tailors and shoemakers appear to you to bo ver" larger— 1m 0111 my experience, 1 think them perfectly necessary ; tiiere are periods ol the year when the number of tailors might be less, but it is my decided opinion that that number ot shoeinakeis cannot be done without. At all times the other casualties are, pioneers, six ; band, 14; cooks, six; staff servants and orderlies, on an avf^'ge, hve. ' 73«. Wiiat is your opinion of the comparative efficiency of a battalion under the old system, consisting ot horn eiglit to ten companies, and the weaker batta- ilous under the present system, with only six rompanies?— I give the preference to the former system, decidedly. 739- How long was the battalion to which you were attached, in the Mediter- ranean .- — 1 en years. 740. That was 10 years altogether? — Ves, it was. 741- Have you any reason to suppose, from what you have seen in your own battalion, that the (lisciplmc of the tl-oops is impaired by remaining in the Medi- terranean .1--I should say decidedly it was not. 74^. While you «erejn the Mediterranean, was your battalion under the new system or the old .system .-• — It was under both. 743- 'I'l'on, when you say you give the preference to the old system, vou are speaking trum your own expeiience, arc you not ?— I am speaking from opinion: the service companies tiiat were in the Mediterranean were as elfective as com- panies could be ; I consider the service generally would be more efficient under the old system, hut no regiments could he in hiier order than those at Malta. 744- !'<> the soldiers generally like the Mediterranean as a station =— I think they do very much. 74('- l> not .Malta a cheap station in point of provi.sions, and in the different articles ot living r- With the exception of bread, every thin.' is much clioaoer there than in Kngland. " ' 747- "^ on have stated, that in a battalion of 492 privates, 35 were sick at one time ; is tliat an average during what vou consider a liealthy period, or during a ix-riod ot sicknos in the regiment ? -It is an average fur a ^Jneral period, uncon'^ nected with the hrst year referred to. 74>^. You have staled that two nights out of three is what you consider a fair average ot rest tor a soklierr— Yes, I consider that very fair. 749 Do you mean that to apply to Malta only, or do you mean it to apply to all coloniiil service: ~-I nRuii it to apply to every station. 750. You have .served on other colo'nial stations besides Malta, have you not^ — 1 es, 1 have served in thr East Indies and at (Jibraltar. 7.51 • Is that about the avera.ce of rest that a soldier has at the different stations "-'■ •• •;• •'•'^- -er,!.! — I!) <.,u!dliar tiiey liuvc riiorc tnan two mghis m bed, as that gairison is in proportion stronger. 752. Hut they do not have that in the other stations ?— No, not in the others. 73.5- N'ot ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 41 753. Not in tlie other colonies in whicJi you have served ?— In the East Indies they huve considerably more tiian thnt. 7,54. Did you see much of the Maltese corps nhen you weie there? — Yes, I saw them frtqueiilly. 7.'),'). Did you consider them us efficient corps? — I consider them efficient, but by no means to be coinparefl with u rrj^imeiU ot" the line. 75(i. If they were officered by British officers, do you think that they arc capable of hij^h military discipline? — ] think a mixture of British officers would be an improvement, certainly. 7,'i7. Either for Malta or anywhere in the Mediterranean? — Yes; I think a mixture of British officers would render them inoro ( Ificient anywhere. 75K. Do you not consider the Maltese corps far more efficient for the service which they are employed in, in Malta, than an Enjilish corps would be? — Yes, I tiiink the special service in which the Maltese are employed, particularly adapted for such a corns 7,59. Do jiju not consider that the Maltese population would do well as soldiers in Ciibrultar, or in any part of the world, either tropical or temperate climates? — I think they would answer very well ; I think that Ihcy would be ecjually efficient at any other station as at Malta. ■jOo. You have been at CJibraltnr, have you not? — Yes, I have. There is one thinn I wish to state to tlie Conimittee, whicli is this, I do not tiiink that the Maltese would be inclined to leave the island ; my reason fur so thinking is, that durini; the time that the Marrpiis of Hastings was governor, an order was issued, authorizing each regiment to enlist !\i} .Maltese ; tlie .Maltese objected to enlist, on a supposition that they might be ordered from their own island. 761. Is it your opinion that this objection would hold good in battalions of Maltese, or large portions of Maltese employed as labourers in those hot climates ? — I think it would hold good under any circumstances, if the absence were to be beyond a limited period. C«pt. If'illiam H. Penny. '^4 April 1834. 7()'. What do you mean by a limited period ? — Perhaps eight or ten months. James Aftck, Esq. again called in ; and further Examined. 76;}. IT has been stateti to the Committee, that the commissariat of the J<""" •'*^«*. E«q- army can tuke charge of the sea provisions and victualling de[)artment at Malta, ————— and supply the navy, and bake biscuit, without additional expense, excepting w.orkmen, thereby saving the expense of that department ; is it your o|)inion that this is practicable, and that the military commissariat jiossesses sufficient knowledge of what is required to keep sea provisions in such a state as to make them always fit for service, and prevent disappointment and discontent among the crews of His Majesty's ships? — I am of opinion, that if such a measure was attempted it would in its working be found wholly im|)racticable, and injurious to the jjublic service ; for, with all the care tiuit can bo taken now, t;ven with experienced officers to correspond with, it is not always that precision can be nttiiined, or that that degree of regularity can be accomplisheil which is desirable for the purpos;- of insuring the efficiency of an important stpiadron of considerable magnitude, like that which has of late been cmployod in the Mediterranean. How niucii more would that be the case if a commissariat officer, unacquainted with I lie nature of the sea service, and having bis own liusiiiess to attend to, bad to be depended on, insteail of an exi)erienced naval officer, who had a thorough knowledge of naval affiiirs, and wl:o had long been accustomed to the discharge of the important duties of his office ! Besides, at an important station like Malta, where suitable naval establishments are already foinied, I am deeidedly of opinion that it would be most injurious to the King's service to make any change that would have the etVect of reniiering the navy dependent for its sup[)lies upon the officers of another branch of service, who had other duties lo alleiul to, and Mho could not be expected to be well inl'ornied either us to the (pialitv or quantity ot biscuit or other articles reciuiied, more especially so as the iiaw lui> already ample nieaiis of its own, under the direction of an experienceil officer who 'inder- staiids his business. A' similar proposition was under consideration in the vcar i8:J4, upon the suggestion of Sir 'I'huinas Maitland, but it was lelinriuisncci by the Lords of the Treasury, who, alter mature eoiisideration, were of o|)iiiion, " that it \\as not expedient to disturb the existing arrangement." The same system theicfore still remains in force; but it has in many respects been greatly improved. 0.J5. With I «4 April 1834. 43 MINUTF.S OF F:VFDKNCE RKFORF, SF.LRCT COMMriTEE fanui ytetk. E»q. With iT«<|)(Ti to the latter p.irt of the qucstior), I do not bf.'lieve that the coiii- niissiiiiat otHirri do possiss u kiiowledKc ot the cure and management of sea provision, eciuul to tliat which is possenseil hy ot)icerii of the naval service, who have heen so long uccustomiil to it as those pniployed in tiie vietualhng den.irt- inent at Maha. I am convinced, therefore, that discdntrnt would soon arise whether there were grounds for it or not, if the navy had to depend upon the com- missariat "f the itrmy for its supplies ; hecausc if, under any circumstances, tliu provisions did not happen to he as (>ood a.s usual, or if th<'y were dill'erent in any respect from wimt the seamen had heen accustomed to uhen supplied hy officers employed under the Admiralty, they would innnedially assert that they were the rtluse provisions of the army, and that wouW occasion clamour and dissatis- faction, althouuli there was no real ground tor it, and would also create a hud feeling het«een the two hranches of service. Tiie duties at Malta in the naval department have heen so great as to prevent the offices of agent victualler and naval storekeeper from heing cond)ined, as has heen the case in other places ; and it is not prohahle, therelore, that the duties of the victualling hranch could with advantage l)e transferred to the commissariat. Hut, in addition to these ohjectioiis, I am further of opinion, that at a large naval station like Malta, the commissariat department could not discharge the duties now performed hy the agent victualler in addition to tlieir own. In proof of this, I l)eg permission to read tlie foUowinir extracts of a report which I made upon the i/jth instant upon u proposition from the commissary at Sierra Leone for uniting the two services on that station, by which he pro|)osed tu eflect a considerable saving : (lixtnict.) " With respect to Mr. M'l.eari's suggestion, that the duties of the agent victuullcr may be conducted by the roninnssariat, it may be observed, that the provisionN for llis Majesty's ships on tlie coast of Africa, were formerly taken charge of and issued by the Commissary of Sierra I.eoiii', and that that arraiigemeiit was acted on Croiii iHu) to 1824, wlicii the late HoanI of Admiialty ap|>oiiiled an agent victualler lor the perforaiaiicc of that duty. " 'fills ap|ioiiitiU(iit took place for the following, amongst other reasons: 1st. On account of the rept ated represeiilatioiis troiu successive coinmissarits of the impossihdity of their eH'cclually e.vecutiin; the duties of the naval service in addition to those of their own depart- ments, cini|)led with their liiahihty to find any person in that country who would accept the situation of clerk for the viclualling business, at the salary of 200 /. per aniuiui : 2d, On account of the want of store-room, which had freouenlly occasioned the nil.xlng to!;etlier of the army and navy supplies, by which considerable Injury had arisen to the'lattT'r : and, 3d, iMore particularly on account of the gnat Inconvenience which had been experiencefl from the want of proper letiirns whereby to regulate the quantities and species of provisions to be sent out, as well as of accounts by which to examine pursers' accounts, and to clear the commissaries of the charges raised against tliein 111 the books of the victualling department. "The duties which the commissaries thus rejiresented themselves unable effectually to execute, in addition to their own, were then confined to the victualling only of the Rhips at Sierra Leone, whereas the a<;eiit victualler is now chaifjed with the care of seamen's clothing as well as iirovislons, and also of iiavjil stores, when any are Kent out for the use of the squadron, which, however, has not of late been frequent, the ships having generally been supplied with naval stores from Ascension. " Of the (llfKculties experienced with regard to accountH. it is only necessary to add, that it appears lioni the recoids of ihe Victualling Office, that the accounts of the three cominis- sanes, who siiccesslvily had charge of the provisions for the navy sent to Sierra Leone, from iHifi'o l8-.;4, were furnished in so incoinpU-te and unsatisfactory a manner as to preclude the possibility of passing them In their orij^inal state, and it iheielore became necessary, previously to tbeir hiing passed in the vicluall mj; depaitnieiit, to make up entinly distinct statements of them liom the ofiice hooks, ami lioiii the accounts of the several pursers of Ills Majesty's ships. In this unsatisfactory inanner llic accounts in question were at leiinlh unavoidably passed, instead of from slateinents furnished hy the coiiiiiiissarus themselves. " In all cases vvliere there are no victualling establishments, and where commissaries may be charijed with naval provisions, it is, in my opinion, iiidispeiisalily necessary that the commissaries should he strictly enjoined (o keep ail the provisions and iiccuiints for the navy wholly t by the agent victimller ?— The Jan,, Mtek Em •ccoimts art- immtrouH unil importi.nt, us urll of provisions, victutilliiig storcn, uiid ' ^ scumen»clothin«Hs..f nioiify ; hikI it uouhl not he iloinir justice to the present ' i4 April 1834. Bjiftit viciuiillfi-, un.l those i'niph)ynl nndcr iiini, not to stute thut the accounts from IVIaltu lire neneiiilly reii.U;re(l witli such great clearness, accuracy and regularity, uit to bo an example to most other naval il(|mrtment»i. 7'';^ y'"" is l'>« imturc and descriptiun of the provisions supplied at Malta to His Miijesty's ships? --Nearly the whole of the supplies of provisions iind seamen's clothnig required (or the shi|)s in the Mediterranean are drawn from the victuallinji stores at Malta, the agent having charge of all supplies sent out from this country 1 he articles sent from England are spirits, salt beef, salt pork, suet, peas, oatmeal, choc(Jate, ten, vuiegar, soap and tobacco, and every article of seamen's clolhing 1 he articles |)rovi.led at Malta are fresh meat and vegetables, furnished umler contract ; biscuits and flour manufactured in the naval bakery ; and v*ine for the Sick, raisins, sugar and lemon juice purchased as re(|uired by public tender. Be- sides the duties more immediately connected with his own department, the agent victualler at Midta is under orders to |)rovide and forward to Gibraltar biscuits, flour, laisms and sugar, it having ap()eared that those articles could be obtained on more advantageous terms at Malta than those which could be sent out from this country. • 7btJ. From what places arc provisions sent fr^uj mt country ?— From Deptford 7b7. Are provisions sent for the mu,s and navy from the same |)lace, and by your de|uirtinent ?— Yes, but the army retiuiie salt meat only to be sent to Malta ; they inight bu sup|)lied with otiu r articles if it were necessary. 7()S. Are any .sent frcun any other jjort in (neat Britain or Inland?— Not any. 7(i(). W hat is the nunib( r <,f men ummIIv supplied with l)rovi^ion^ from the victualling department at Malta ?-l hut has varied materially wi'.iiin the last few years; at present there aie alxjiit (i.ooo on the Mediterranean station. 770. I.s there any particular knowledge retpiired for the preservation of sea pro- vi.Moii.s, iKit only as to the security of rcpackiiii.', but also fioin the size ot the pack- ages to,, uit smaller vessels in the stowage r- Yes, much knowledge and expe- rience ii ie(|iiii((l, niiil great cure and attention is iiecessurv. 771. Is tilde iniieh c.)0|ieiuge woik in the victualling dqiartment at Malta?-— \ e.s it is always going forward ; in the last Hve years there have been miwurds of •^4, (too casks (it various kinds made and lepuiredtliere. 772. lias the agent victualler cliiirge of tiie seamen's elothini.'. and dots that recpiire particular care to prevent lo>s to the public ?— It certaiiifv recpiires much care and ulteiition, especially where the moth abounds, as it does at Malta. 77;5. Does the auent victualler also supply money to pursers r— Yes, he supplies money lor advances to pursers, neces^uiy nioiiev, moiiev for seamen, monthly pay, and lor i)aymeiit> uf. savings of provisions. 774. Are you of opinion that the military eomiiii>i.uriat depaitmeiit is capable of preparing biscuit lit lor the use of the crews of His Majesty's ships lor sea service, willioul eiidang.ring loss to the public by the decay thereof, as well as injury to the liealih ol the seamen?— I do not believe that the commissariat department is capable ol perforiiiiiig the service as well as it is done at pies-nt ; nor do i believe thut any improvement can be made in the present system of mana^illg the bukds ; It was eslaiiiisiied in iSi;), and has ol lute been itrought by tin" present agent victnalU r to the highest state of perfection of whicii it is su.sceplible, without the aid of machinery. Tj^f. Are there *ny great los.ses by decayed biscuit in the storehouses at Malta? — None whutexor. 77ti. In the colonies to which bi.scuit is sent from England, are there unv losses, and does it not recpiire meat care to prevent them -— lii the Wist Indies there are losses occasionally ; but from the great care now taken, by sending out in casks (if possible in old spirit casks) a large portion of biscuit likely to be kept long, there is not near so much coniiemnation now as there v. as formerlv. 777. Could the naval victualling deparlment supply tiie garrisons of Malta and (iibialtiir wiili .such species of sea provision as those garrisons require.- — There would be 110 dilViculty in doing it if proper arrangements were previously made, and the supplies were isaucd peiiodieuiiy in large (juantities ibr distribution by the commissariat. 77H. Would it require an addition to the establishment r- -That would depend MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE 34 April 1834 Jamts Meek, Esq. very much upon tlic manner in which it was done. If previous arrangements . were made, I should think that little or no additional establishment would be . required ; but if supplies had to be issued to the army every day (which would be higiily objectionable, if not impracticable), it would require more; the only prac- ticable mode would be that of issuing supplies monthly, or in other large quantities, from the victualling establishment, which ought not to be charged with detailed issues ; in that case the only increase of establishment would be labour, and per- haps not even that. 779- ^V^ould it be necessary that the troops should be supplied with salt provi- sions at any time to prevent decay, as is at present stated to be the practice ? — It IS always advisable to supply them with a certain portion of salt provisions, because there is very little ditlerence between the price of fresh meat and salt meat; and it confers the power of keeping the fresh meat contractors in oriler. 780. What is the present price of fresh meat and salt meat at Gibraltar and Malta, mcluding the cost of freight ?— At Gibraltar, fresh beef is 4 ^ J. per lb., and salt meat 4 i d. per lb. ; at Malta, fresh meat is from 4^!, d. per lb., and salt meat ad. per lb. ; the expense of freight of salt meat is included in both instances. 781. Is fresh meat supplied by contract, or purchased by the pursers or the agent victualler?— It is supplied by contract, under the direction of the admiral superintendent, and paid for by the agent victualler. • 782. Could the navy be supplied bv the army contractor with fresh beef at Malta and Gibraltar with advantage? — fhat is very doubtful; the supply for the navy is irregular, while that for the army is certain ; there is risk too in sending fresh meat afloat, whether by ships' boats or by the contractor, and that the army is not exposed to ; the officers of the navy alone, and not army officers, must always decide as to the quality of meat that is to be used in the navy, or tliscon- tents will inevitably ensue. 7^3- Could the agent victualler at Malta supply tiic army with fresh meat and fresh bread, as well as sea provisions ?— There would be no difficulty in doinif that under a proper arrangement ; but with regard to bread, I am not aware whether the army arc supplied with soft bread or biscuit. 784. With soft bread ? — Ii it were biscuit, there w Id be no difficulty whatever ; and I conclude they could also bake soft bread. 78,5. How is the naval hospital at .Malta supplieii vjth fresh meat and bread? The former under tlio contracts made by the agent victualler for the supply of the navy ; and the latter manufactured at the naval bakery. 786. Are tlicre any insiances in pfaces abroad where the navy are supplied by the commissariat?— Yes, at New Providence and at Barbadoes, where tliere are no victualling establishments ; but the number victualled at either place is very small, as compared with .Malta. 787- Is it attended witli any expense ?— The commissaries receive a small gratuity annually, as voted on the Navy Estimates. 788. In case of its becoming necessary to make any considerable addition to the naval force of Gibraltar or Malta, would it be attended with any inconvenience if there were no naval victualling dep6t at either of those places ; and could the commissariat execute the duties in such an emergency? — It would, in such an event, be attended with the greatest inconvenience ; and I am decidedly of opinion that the army commissariat could not, under such circumstances, execute the a"ent victualler's duties in addition to its own. "^ 789. In case of salt provisions for tiie army and garrisons abroad were c(;n- tractetl for in Ireland to Iil- delivered in the colonies, could the eslablislimenl at Depltord he dispensed with ? — Certainly not ; because salt meat for the navy, transport, and convict services would still have to be received at Dcptlord. 790. What would be the ditlerence of freight direct from Ireland to the colonies, as compared with Deptford ?— I am of opinion that freight from Oeptford to the colonies would generally be less than from Ireland direct to the colonies. 791. Could yon always dc()end upon a sufficient quantity of tonnage at Cork for the uifferent colonies?— No ; salt provisions are shipped for Deptfoid from Waterlord, Dublin, and Limerick, as well as from Cork, all of which are places that have but little, if nny, intercourse with many of the colonics ; while fVom tiie river treiglit can generally be obtained to all parts of the worlu. To many colonies ships go out hght, especially to the West Indies, and they therefore charge at as low a rate of lieiglit as will generally more than compensate for anv rey the Crown. 794. Have you any reason to believe that the contractors for supplying salt provisions combine so as to increase the contract prices? — Contractors are very frequently well understood with each other ; and it is very difficult, however viiji- lant, to prevent combination. I have had reason to think that combination Ims taken place amongst them on some occasions, and there are only two modes of obviating it, one by curing salt meat in the King's yards, and the other by autho- rizing purchases to be made by commission, which is objectionable. 79!>- ^Are all the provisions now supplied for the navy, of the growth and pro- duce of Great Britain or her colonics r —Yes, with the exception of cocoa ; of wheat converted into flour and biscuit at Malta, which is generally obtained from Sicily and Odessa ; of floiu", at Halifax ; and of raisins and tobacco, as well as of some supplies purchased on the South American station. 79t). If the victualling of the navy were transferred to tiie commissariat at Malta, co'ild the supplies be made with the same facility and economy us at present?— Decidedly not. In so complicated a business, which it takes a Ion" time to acquire a perfect knowledge of, every irregularity might at first be expected to take place, es|)ecially before experience iuid been gained ; stores would accumu- late and be injured at one time, w liilc ileficiencies would arise at another ; and the pursers of His .Majesty's ships would be obliged to purchase, wiiicii is objectionable when it can be avoided. Besides whicli, the control of tiie naval commander-in- chief would be weakened, uor would he be able to depend upon his squadron bein«' kept in a state of efficiency. There is no part of my'iluty that I consider to be so important as that of pro|)erly regulating the supplies lor the ilifferent establish- ments, because on that being properly done, the efficiency of the ships for any service for which they may be required" mainly depends; and it would be impos- sible that either I, or any other person, could discharge this duty satisfactorily, if dependence could not be [ilaced upon the accuracy of the returns received, or if the returns were not made with the greatest punctuality. Could this reasonably be expected to be tlone wiiile so nun\y duties had to he discharged bv the same indi- vidual, and that individual inexperienced in the particular duties ieciuired of him, or not having an accurate knowledge of the numerous accounts and returns lie woidd have to render- 797. Is the vicUialling establishment well conducted, and are there Maltese cmpi cil in it : — The viclualling establishment at .Malta is remarkably well con- ducted, and nearly all the persons employed in it are Maltese. 795. Are the Maiti'se employed in the victualling vard trustworthy people? —Perfwily sn ; awl several of thesn :•.!l.ty must rest on the Treasury or Army departments, as to what he quanuty to be kept m store should be. Such u measure would of course Lve tobehmied to those colonies only where there are victualling establishments VIZ Gibraltar, Malta. Cape of (Jood Hope, and Halifax. AtShose placed U might be done without difficulty, provided the issues were made periodically i considerable quantities for distribution by the commissaries, and not in detaifbv the agent victuallers. "J 800. In the event of the salt ,.rovisions prepared for the possible use of the army not being required^ could not a vent be easily found for 'them by supply „g the navy with then. ?-T!.at would depend upon the magnitude of the nav^ "f MmI\^ 'itVT'' °'/" ^"""''"" ''^r ^"^''^ P'"^'-^'°"« ^'^^^'^^ deposited. At Malta, uhere the naval force is considerable, no difficulty vv^uld be 1 kelv to • ZZr r!';'-/'-'-f"gf'"t"'«; hut at (Jibraltar, where at present the nL° force IS very limited indeed, the meat would be liable to sustain injury before i could possibly be disposed of for naval purposes. Sir Richard Flasket, called in ; and Examined. 801. YOU were for some time in the island of Malta?— Yes, I was there for nine or ten years, but it is ten years since I left it. 802. l)uring what period were you there ?-From the end of the year i8n to A I ay 1 024. •' "^ S03. In wl(at situation were you - — First as private secretary to General Mail- land, and allcrwards as chief secretary to the government. 804^ In lliat situation had you opportunities of making yourself acquainted with t^^e military establ>shment.--I ha.l very little <.pportunily of becoming acquainted with the legu ar military establishment; the only inturnuilion I could give in reuard to 11 «ould be the opinions I knew General Maitiand entertained rdalive to its extent. J5ut I bad more knowledge of tlie formation of the .Maltese Fcncibies paid by the civil government, though I had no connection whatever with the militarv establibliment. -^ So,-; State to the Connnittee tlit> nature and the formation of the Maltese l-enciblesr— llie corps formerly ha.l consisted of three corps, one called the pro- vmcial corps, another called the coast cannoniers, and another called the police 80b State the amount of them as near as yon can -—I should think they were altogether from about 380 to 4-'o .,„,.. Sul.se,|uentlv to Sir Thomas Maiilancj", ai rival at .Malta he incorporated them into one regiment, called the .Maltese Fen- cibles. in wliicii 1 think there were 440 privates. 807. H,,w wi^^re they employed .--JVincipaliy as police anards, and in the bays round the island, to prevent communication by buats or shippini;, which communi- cation, 1 It had taken place, »v..uld most probably have put the islaml in (luaran- tine with the neighbouring c.mlinent. It the .Maltese regiment had imt existed, Government «ould have been obliged to employ ,1 more expensive force. The iNialtese regiments of coursg an; not so expensive to the (iovernment us the other troops, but they are equally available lor the duties above mentioned. 8()S. Can you state the ihirerence between the cost <.f the .Malte.se corps and that of u battalion of the same lu.mber of liiitish troops.: -I cannot state the detailed expense (.1 a IJntish iegm,cnt; the pay of a private in the Maltese Fencibles was only S Ul. per .ay; I speak of 10 years ago; the ration, were a pound and a half of bread and a little fuel. 809, Were they e.pi.dly available with liritish tioops tor all the duties on which they were .mploye.l.-- I .hould say yes, thouuh not of course so eliicient, looking at them as a military force. 811. From your knowledge ol the disposition of the Maltese, do you think that rcginKM.ts lm„i Malta might be enlisted for other .service in the .Me.literranean ^- I .should think that they would make maiiv difHcnlties, otherwise it would be veiy desirable; they might hav no objection to go away lor a certain time; but 1 do not tiiink they would go without tbdr families at all evenu ; they are not fond of ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 47 of leaving their country ; we tried at one time to get tliein into the navy, and most KnnkhardPlatlitt. of the ships had a few of them, but that did not go to any extent. After I left the ■ island, I understood it was tried to join a company of Maltese to each of the British ^4 April 1834. regiments, and that did not answer. A Maltese regiment was employed many years back with the British force in the island of Capri. 812. For what length of time were they absent on that occasion? — I cannot say ; it was a military expedition, and it was before my time. 813. Would they object to leaving their homes for a short period, do you suppose ? — Why, at present they are, I understand, in a state of great poverty, and that might have an eftect upon them, more especially if they were aware they would not have to go far away. 814. Is not their condition much deteriorated since you were at Malta? — I can- not answer that question except from what I hear; they are excessively poor, and they always have been poor. I think they were better off in the time of the Order than they have been since. I mean that there was more money expended by the Order of St. John in the island of Malta than there is now, as far as concerns the natives ; at that time, too, the manufacture of cotton was carried on to a very great extent. The importation to Spain has since been prohibited, and that has been a principle cause of the deterioration in tiie situation of the Maltese. It is stated that from 25,000 to 30,000 people, including women and children, were employed in the growth and manufacture of cotton in the time of the Order; it is one of the principal parts of their cultivation ; and they have an idea, that a cotton crop has the same ed'ect on the land as letting it lie fallow. 815. A gooe very willing to serve. 0.25. ' o 4 823. Do Capt. lli).ry Fifiich. I Capt. Htnty French. 14 April 18:34. 48 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE 823. Do you think that their attachment to home would prevent their doing this willingly ?— I should think that they would have noobjjection to serve three years. 826. Do you imagine that any measure which n)ay afford employment to the persons whom you have n:entioned, who are now without it, would have a tendency to increase their affection towards this Government? -Certainly, I do. 827. Do you state that as the result of your own observation? — Yes; and it is what the Maltese have said to mc on various occasions. 828. Have you any reasons to doubt that those statements were correct ? I have no reason to doubt it at all. 829. It has been stated that the Maltese troops, in case they were raised, would not like to serve at Corfu, in consec|ucncc of the difference of "religion. Now, are there not in the town of Corfu plenty of places of Roman-catholic worship and a large |)roportion of catholic clergymen?— There arc several places of Roman- catholic worsiiip, and a great many catholic clergy and inhabitants, and I think that the Maltese would have no objection on tliat score to serving. 830. With regard to officering these corps, would you recommend that the whole of the officers should be British or Maltese, or would you recommend a mixture of both? — I should say a mixture would be better, certainly, to begin with. 831. Do you not think that it would be extremely gratifying to the nobility and the gentry of Malta to look forward to military employment?— I have alwaysVound that they seemed to take great pride in it. 832. They do so, even in the one regiment which exists, do they not? — Yes, very much. 833. There were a certain number of Maltese that were induced by Colonel Napier to go to Cephalonia, were there not? — There were. 834. Do you know what was tiie number or value of that body; what number were they r — I do not indeed ; 1 should think some 300. .835. Were they families? — Not 300 families ; but they brought their families with them, making probably 300 individuals. 831). Have you hud any opportunity of knowing what the condition of the families were after they got to Cephalonia ? — I believe the colony did not succeed ; the causes I am ignorant of. 837. Do you happen to know w hat number of them continued at Cephalonia ? — I do not; they may have gone to the other islands, and some of them may be still in Cephalonia; there are a great number of Maltese in the island, a. very great number. 838. In the Greek islands do you mean.' — Yes; particularly masons and car- penters, anil all handicraft tra(h>. 1S39. Are they there as settlers; are they permanent?— Seldom permanent. 840. Arc they there with their families ? — Yes, with their families. 841. Do they generally return to .Malta in the course of a certain number of yer.rs? — Yes, I think they do. 842. Hut you think that they would have no objection to quit the island, either as soldiers or in any oilier capacity, on account of its taking them away from their country tor a limited time, say live or seven years? -I think I stated before, three years; that is the general time they serve in the navy ; and 1 therefore conclude, us they have no objection to serve that period on board His Majesty's ships, they could have no objection to serve the same period on siiore. 843. Does any considerable number of them engage in the navy, do you think ? — Not very ninny, I believe. 844. Do you know whether there are any instances of the Maltese gentry enter- ing either as niidsiiipmen in liie navy, or as commissioned officers in our army? — Yes, there is an officer of the Sotli now, Mr. Scholmas, and I tiiink there is at jiresent a post-captain in the navy who is a Maltese; I will not be quite certain of that. 84/',. Do yon happen to know whether there are any of them who serve as war- rant officers? —I do not. 846. Had any of the regiments which you were acquainted with, the British regiments, been lnUii siniinned in the Mediterruncun - — Yes : there were th.e iSlh. .list, Soih and 8,-,lh regiments. 847. llou long hud the regiment which had been longest there been there.? — The 51st liad been longer thi re tiian ar,y that I know of. 848. How many years was that there .^ — Twelve years and upwards. 849. Wci-e ON MILITARY ESTADLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 4., 849. Were the men in as efficient a state of discipline as the other regiments ? — They were. 850. You have no reason to suppose that the discipline of a regiment becomes impaired by being long stationed in the Mediterranean ?— The men often icquire habits of drinking, l)iit I think tiiat tiic regiments in the Mediterranean are in as good order as any that I have seen in England. 8,51. Supposing tliut battalions were raised composed of British subjects, for service in the Mediterranean, do you think that those battalions would maintain their efficiency as well as they would elsewhere?— I should doubt it. 852. Why ? — Uecausc I do not think that the men who would engage would b% of the same description ; I should think that you would hardly get men to ert^a^e to serve for life merely for a foreign station. 85 J. Not even for a limited period? — Certainly, they would for a limited period. 854. Suppose it were 14 or 1,5 years ? — Y^. 8.55. Would they be men of a good description ? — Y'cs. *" Veneris, '25' die Aprilis, 1834. LORD VqsCOUNT EBRINGTON, IN THE CHAIR. Captain Henri/ French, called in ; and further Examined. 857. YOU iuive been in the Ionian Islands, have you not?— I have. 8.')8. How long were you there? — Upwards of six years. 859. From what period ? — From the year 1 824 up to the year 1 830. 8(jo. In what capacity were you? — I was deputy assistant quartermaster-general. 863. Arc there any fortresses in the Ionian Islands besides the Castle of Corfu and the island of Vido? — There are besides Forts Ncuf, St. Salvador and Abraham. The two latter are not kept tip, and are, as I understand, to be destroyed. 864. Do you not consider them as the key to the possession of Corfu ? Certainly. 8(i5. And as long as we hold those fortresses, may we not be considered as, in point of fact, in military possession of the whole of the seven islands? — I should imagine we might. 8tit). If, under the supposition that any hostile power should be able to land troops in any of the islands, we, having a naval preponderance, should be able to hold those fortresses until reinforce;nents should arrive? — Certainly; they eould not be tiikcn by a coup de main. 867^ What do you consider to be a sufficient force for garrisoning those fort- resses ? — I uudd tund that the new keep of Vido was calcidated to be defended by .-JDO men. 1 should tliink i;()oo or \,[tOo men ought to defend the citadel 8(i>S. Of Corfu?— Yes. 8(19. Hy i,(Hi<> or ii.'joo men, you mean in case of actual siege, do yon not? — I should not think it a sufficient force for a siege. I was speaking of a amp de main. I should think tliat i.uoo or i./jdo men would defend it from a coup dc main. 870. Do you think, in a lime of profound peace, so large a garrison as from 1,000 to l,,-|0() nun would be recpiired for the citadel of Corhi? — No. 871. Can you state to the Committee what in your opinion would be u sufficient amount of lorce ? — The duty of the citadel alone, I say the cit.ulel alone, might be done by a regiment ; but if you include the garri.son, that wouki require at least l,,')0(i men. 872. That is exclusive; then you say 2,000 men in the whole, including Vido? — ^'es. 873. With respect to Vido, what in your opinion would be a sufficient garrison for that in time of peace? — The works were not fuiished at the time when I was theic, and therefore I am unable to judge. 87.). iiiit }uu tiiiiik iu)t so many us 500 would be required r — I sup|)osc that two con)panies might be sufficient. 87,1;. Taking one general view of the subject, what do you think would be a .sufficient garrison tor Corfu in the time of peace? — I should say !,/■,()( 87(>. Are you acquainted with the other islands?— No, but very little. men. H 877. Can Capt. Henry French. 34 April 1834. Capt. Henri/ French. 95 April 1834. Cnpi. Hmiv h'irnrh. ■1,1 April tR.i4. I ('(iliim'l ChatUs S.ipitt, 50 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE DEFORE SEF-FCT COMMITTEE 877. C'nn you j^vc niiy inf'oimutioM to tlic ('ommittcc iis to wiml uiih tlic iiinouiit of loicc in ("oitu wlicii you vm'Io llicror -I lliiuk there wire tilxiut j.ooo hk;ii wlitn I «as lliciT. 87S. WvTv you lIuMO in tlir lime of Sir Ficilnick Ared to 1)0 in healthv situations? — Vi-s, they arc ; but tliey are not of a ({ood description. Sot'. Von pive, in answer to one of the questions that was put to yon, that you tli(iui;ht the jjarrison ol the island in time of peace neeil not exceed i,,5()(> men; wilt n you gave that answer, were you supposing; that' that was the whole {jarri.son for the whole of the islands, or were you supposing that there were troops in the Dtln'r islands as well:— -1 meant Corlu alone. 8i)i. Then you would not consider that, thei"o not being troops in the other islands, ^.'joo men would l)e a sillVicicnt gn ■ ison in lime of peace? — I think for Corfu l,,'|Ot' uicn would be sullicicni. So.'. Do you mean by that answer to say, that 1,, ')(>(> men woidd be sidlicient to kci»f) military possession ot the whole of the Ionian Islands in time of peace ? — No; I tliiuk thai the other islands would reipiire some small i;arrisons. S()_;. A'ou have staled limt there an- no oilier torts in tho Ionian Islands ; are you aware thai there i> llie ciliidel of /ante ? -I meant in Corfu alone. .S11.4. \\ hen you stated that (.."ioi) men would be a suHicicnt garrison for (^orfn, did you mean J,.')Ot) etlective men, or an establisinncnt of l,.')('<' men ?— An establisliment of 1, ,><>() men. 81)). Are >'<»' sullicientlv accpiainlcd with the island of Zante to be able to state what vou consider a Mitliciint loicc Ihr tlie protection of the citadel in time of peace ■ — 1 am not ; but I should have imagined that lour conijianies would be sullicicni. Si)('. \ iM have stated in a former answer, that yon thought small garrisons ought to be |ilac('d in the dill'crcut i>iands ; would those small garrisons to which \ou alluilc be of anv value vv liatever, exec pt ill the cast' of Zaute, against loi ent'niv ; supjiosing this comilry to be at war and those islands to be atliicked, would they not fail an easy prey lo an invinliug lorcc?--Not being acipiaiuleil with the military strength of tho.se islands, I am not capable of giving an answer. •S117. •^'''' ^'•" aware, that during the war, when tiie French hud withdrawn by tar the greater pait ol the garrison of all the other islands to Corfu, that Ziiiitu and Santa Maura, especiallv the an expLiliiiuii scut hum Siiily by is ? - \'es, I have heard so atter, stood out lor a considerable time against Colonel Cfiarli.s AV;/»/Vr, called in ; and Examined. 808. IIOW iotig were you in the Ionian Islands? — Tliirtcen years. 8()ii. In what capacity were you there? — I wasliiere us inspector of the Ionian militia. 900. During ON MILITARY KSTAlJLISllMKNTS IN THE COLONIES. r.» -Yes ; und I wus also rosidciit in tl' lui of fttiicy 900. During tli« whole time r ('t'lilmioniii tor cif^lit years, ;>oi. Ar<;yoii well iuc|naiiit»!il with tiie utiiciiil stutc of tliosc is so ; it is II (liflinilt (|iitsli()n lo atiswoi ; I onfrlii to Ik- ho. {}0-j. WliHt do you coiwi^lcr to bu tlio f^mierul (li.Mposilioii of ili«; inliabitaiits towurds Ihu lliilibli (iovoriiincnt ? I siiuuld say tlicy uro well dispuitcd to tiie Ciovcrmiicnt. ()()(). Wliut shoidd you consider, in it lime of profound pcuee, to bo a sufii. cicnt uiilitury cMtablislinicnl for the protection of those islands ? -ThiU must depend upon the style of the «ov(rnnienl ; if the government is good, i.ouo men ; it it i.s not good, I cannot tell how nuiny, it may bo 10,000, <)()7. Should yon consider 1, 000 men suflieient for the whole seven ittlundiP ^'es. ;>o«. What amount of force would you put in the fortresses in Corfu and Vido ' — lo garrison those lorlre.sses properly would re(|uire a large force ; v\hen I s|)eulc o» 1,000 men as being sufficient, I talk of a time of peace, and then I would put the; majority of the force wherever the seat of the government was ; hut if you talk of garrisoning a forlres« you must refer to the gariison necessary to defend that tbrtrc.Hs, which, as the works at (.'orhi an; very extensive, would h(; considerable, Hcverul thousand men ; but I do not know what their periphery is ; I conceive that in time of war the Ionian Ishnid.s wouhl requite io,o(H) (»r l.'"),ooo men. <)!)(). Wiiat force would be sunicienl to protect them against a coup ilc main? 1 cannot say ; it depends upon the force of the enemy. <)io. Should you think it necessary to have any small garrisons in thi; other islands.' Yes; I think that the majority of tiu' garrison in liuie of peace should be kei)t at the seat of goverinnent, and the remainder of the troops should bo divided in the diflerent islands. 91,3. Was the health ol the garrison pretty good when you were there? -No; I do not think that they ever were as healthy m they ought to have been. ()i/4. ()wiiig to what causer"- liad barracks and too much night duty; lliu Comtniltee «ill recollect that I lun answering (piite without any documents, and entirely trom memory ; also, that I have lieen lour yeais from the islands, and therefore my remarks refer to the period at uhich I lelt them. c)!/-,. Ucri those barracks bud in |)oiiit of situation or of acconunodation r — In |)uint of accommodation. •)i(). Iliit there are .souie parts of the island that are nnheultliy from swamps, arc there not: — All of them are ludieallhy in the viciiiitv of swamjis. 017. \ on have stated that in your opinion i.ooo men would he sufficient for a |)eace gairi.son for those islands ; do yon mean i.ooo llntish troops : I should say i,()()() of any tioops in liiue of |)eace, but I refer to a time ol peace only; in titiie (it war I do not consider 1,000 men suHicient ; and even in time of peace, I think a man-of-war sh(add al.so be there slationtd. tjli). In a work uhich bears your name, there is a statement made of the expense incurred in public hxigings, of which you state that 7,000/. in your opinion was incurred for the (|uurlers of troops ; was that e.\cln.sive of the liarracks which were specially built for them "r -I do not recollect immediately; whatever I .stated in that work, I staled from some documents in my pos.sessiou ut the time, and which I have now, but they are not in London. p-'o. lint on the supposition that the garris(jn m»I(; reduced to l,o(j() men, would not the barracks be amply sutlicicnt for their accounnodation, without incurring any ex|)ense for (juarters ; a great deal more theiefore than that item of expenili-.nre would be entirely saved r— I should suppose not entirely, because the oflicers might r<(|nire lodgings ; but it all de|i(n(ls upon the sy-tein pursued. I here are pnbli. buildings that are now appro|)rialed l(» (jtlicr purposes, that migiit he apjijicd to llnit pur|iosc. and thcreliirc s.ive the wiiolc of that item of ex|)('nse. \yix in the event ol the (orees being leduced to 1,000 men, would it not be very piaclicahle to lind accounnodation in those barracks, and fit up certain aparlnienls for the othcers r I should think so; but I am not so well aciiuuinled with Corhi as with Cephalonia. i)J-'. Is III! re any lortrcss in d phalonia ?— Yes, there arc two. t(J,j. Are they of any strength r— Yes, in p(jint ol situation, but they are in a Slate ol decay. <)'J4. \\ hat anionnt of force do you consiiU r suflieient for t'ephalonia in lime of |)lolonnd peace.' — I shoiilil siiv aliciit loo men. ()-'.V 'lo whul purpose would you apply .such ft siimll giirii.son as that? -To Culoiisl Charltt Napier. 15 A|iril 1834. 0.12' II :j supply 1 1) ryi MINUTKS OK KVIDKNCK UKIORK SKl-KCT COMNmTKK Colonel s»i| jily siunics ; the sentry •<•!• inHtimco «ivn the mi»^i;n/.inf of \tom\vr, uiiil upon CAhiVm Nni»n: (jn^ „|„)|. 'I'luMt arc alsii cimliiincncios. ,,j(i. It i^ tin- the occuirciuH! of such contingencies tlint you would imvo thoso «r. Apvil 1834. sniiill pinisons r Ves. i)J7. Ncitliir for the puipoxc of polico nor of ilrfcncn uniiinsl uu invaiiinn cneuiv f -l''<>i tlcfoncc iipnn.Hl un ininiy, ciitiiinly not, in time of pence, there lieing no enemy ; for police, occMsions may oeeui in whieli tliey woiilii he necessary to U!<(*i»t the civil force, hecause we can never he certain of llie peitect tranipiillity of 11 people noverncil hy the militiiry of another nation ; partial connuolions may occur, anil these small (garrisons would on sncii occasions protect the execulivo frovernment till its friends had lime to rally round it. jS. Was the otlic- of Hesident considered u military or a civil uppointmunt ? — It was considered civil, hut I held the u\ihlary command also, «)it). Did not Sir Frederick Adam unite iii his own person the otVice of (^oin- nuiml'er of the Forces and of Lord Hi^h ('ommissionci of the Ionian Islandsl* — Yes, ho iliil. ();;o. State to the Counniltee whetlu r you consider it most ndvant«n<'""'* ''"" ""^ puiiiie service that those olliccs siiotdd he united in one person, or he separated ? 1 tliink that the\ arc best muted ; 1 say so, hccauso I heard the (pieslion very much discussed in the year 17()S, in Ireland, and in the year iSu;),in Irelanil, when the ipiestion wiieiher the two oUices of Lord Meutenant uiul Couunander in Chief oui;hl to he united or not, was discussed ; and I heard many, and. in my opinion, uuansweraMe reuso\is, adduced in hivour of their union. I saw in 1 Soj jareat want of unity of action hcl^veen (ieueral Fox and Font llardwicke, liiouirli with every desire 'on llu< part of these two j^eullemen to act t()gcther ; hut still there was a most dangerous inconsistency in tlieir operations. 'I'hesanu! waul ol co-operation e\i>ted hetween Ford ("aiiiden and Sir Ralph Ahercromhy in I7<)S. I helieve that (lie union of tiie olfict- of Ford Fieulenant and Conuuander in (JhicI in the pers»)n of Ford ("01 n«allis saved Ircl.oid. In the Ionian Islands tlie most jMonipt measures may simutimes he necessary, and they CiUi he hest taken hy hoth iitlices heiiiji united in one person. The head of the nnlitary and the head of the civil power wdl generally he at variance with <'ach other, which is always extrcimily detrimental to liie service, and sometimes dangerous to the very safety of tho povernmenl. 051. In addition to that eensitleration, may we not add, that the government partakes in a jrieui degree of a military nature, from th(> position in which we uro placed with retVience to the inhahitants - - -1 think very nnich so, hccause ihu inhalntanis are accustomed to look to military UMii ahme as tiieir rulers. K)\i. Do von tliink that the ollice of Resident in each island is essentially necessary to the good jtovernnu'nt of it '. F" There are "not a great nuuiv travellers or persons coming that way. an> there ^--Yes, a good main. It must he ipiile evident that the Ford High ('oin- niisMoncr's hospitality must depend upon ins own will, and upon his own resomces. I can only speak on that point with regiuil to my own feelings. 037. Is it necessarv, for the purpose of insuring respect in tlie natives, tliat the Ford' High ("ommi^sfoner shouM live in a very splendid manner ?— No, dechlcdly not. . ;».5S. Are not the native families, generally speaking, possesseil ol hut small Im-- tuncs : — Very small. . 0.50. Hud "you many opportunities of remarking the slate ol military discipline of the regiment^ whieli had been some years in the Mcditerratu'an .' -^es. .).»,>, i)id von Imd that discipline at "all impaired by their having been so long in tiu MediUriaiuanr The eluajnursof wmr i>n>d.iecd dnnikenuess. which is alwavs injurious to discipline; however I saw hut one instance in which the cominand'ers of regiments did not exert themselves to maintain it as strictly as 111 England. 1 consider tnat the discipline of every regiment depi luls upon llie com- niaiuiiii;: otficer. and not upon the place uhere it is tpiartered. 041. Ihen. Ill point of hict. v>'U consider that a legimeiU coniinanded by a good and viuiuiiuolliccris as likely to nuinlaiu its discipline in the .Mcditcrru- ^ nettu i ON MILITARY KSTAHMSIIMKNTS IN THE COLONIES. neon ns niiy where clue?- Yes, 1 nrn »|iiilo sure of it ; tliougli where wine i^ clieap tlic coniniinKliiif^ olliccr will hiivc inures trcnibh'. ^ [)'\z. Dili liic RdldiiiN, ijuniriilly cpcakiiii;, like their ulntions? — Ye«, I helu/.v so; I cannot nnswcr tor ollirr men's t'cclirii^i, i)Mt I lidicve so. «(4;>. Do yon tiiink it would he dctrinientul to the service it troops were rnwcd in this country (or scTviee in the Mediterrnnoini, only to iiel m coloniid coriw?— I cannot inidi-rtiike to iiimwcr (l(\:;n!dly timt (|uestion, hut I think that colonial corps jrriicrully ure hud, l)ecanse thriy are considered stepping stones to promo- tion, and th<" odiccrs do not get interested in their reninientH as they do in tha re^nlar regiments ol the line. (^4^. Is that your only ohjection? -At present I do not see imy other, hut there may he many. (j,| ;,. Supposing they ceased to ho made stepping stones, that in congnrpience of u good numy corps of that nature hcing estahlished, ollic crs not only join them, hut renuiin a considcrahlc time«itli tliem, and, under very reasonahle circimi- .stances, might In- cxpicted to tnk(; tin same interest in them that tliey do now in the regiments to «hicli they helong, anil that the same (upril dc corpn ttwgUi hn expected to he estahli.sjird ; would not that remove your ohjection } — I cannot, at this moment, see any oh)(ctii)n in them ; lait thert; may he practical ohjcTtiims which I (III not hw, and HJiich I cannot take n|ion myRcli to answer; hesidcs, I do not hclievc that olhccrs would take sutlieient interest in a colonial corjis in the pre- sent system of the army. ()4(i. You slate in your work that you would feel no ditlicnity in trusting the defence of the Ionian rshuids to a Maltese corps in lime of pence ? —No, I slionld not have any dilViculty. ()47. If you wonlil feel no dilVicidty in entrusting the entire dcfenci; of those i.slands to u Maltese corps in time of peace, would >on led any difficulty in form- ing yom- garrison partly of Maltese and partly of Ihitish troops in time of war.-' — 1 should not, h)r 1 never vit saw troops of any nation that discipline would not make fight, hut of course I reeko'i Ihitish mldiers sujierior to all others ; and if I would trust to the inhrior troops, I naturally must trust to the superior. y4S. In what proportion would you have the Maltese, as compared with the British, in point of mnnher- 'i'hut is a question I feel quite nnahle to answer; it depends \ipon the altiick of i;n enemy, his means, the cxpe-ise which can ix: hornc, und other things. 'I'lie more Mritish soldiers the hetler ; I never refer to .Maltese as the hest, hut as tlie cheapest troojis, and good enough withal. <)4(). With reference to the (pu.stu)n of formation of colonial corps, are there any other .sources from which you would raise colonial corps, exce|)t from Malta; any other class of persons Iroin th(>Ki^ islands? — The (Jrceks Ihemselvet. I),")-}. A (Jreek or a Maltese cof|t's could he raised and maintained at a much less expense than a liritish corps of e(|iial strength, could tiiey not?— Yes. y.'i.V ^^ ould not tlmt he a .saving not merely in point of pay, hut in point of rations? Wcuild a (ireek or a Maltese rc(|uire as ahuiidani rations as a British Mildier? 'Ihe way I should save upon a colonial corps of CJreeks or Maltese Mould he hy giving tlicm so much a month, and allowing them to feed themselves, otherwise 1 du not tliink the ration would he much cheaper. \)f,U. Do joii think llml they could provide themselves at a cheaper rate than they could he hirniklied hy the coiiiniissariat ?-- Yes, a great deal cheaper; you save the jmy of the cominissaiy, and avoid the cheating of the contractor ; these expenses you get rid of at once. (),'-,7. Would yon olfieer lliis (ireek or Maltese cor|)s with native olhcers, or would you intermix sonie r.riti>li ollicers with them?- -I would certainly put a Hrilish cmnmander and a ihitish adjutant. il.VS. Would you think these two ollicers sullicientf I say yes ; hecause I have known u i'oitiiguese regiment in perfect order with only one Knglish oflicer. (|-,;). What, ill your opiiiiim, is the hest systi ni with respect to tiie organization of i)aitalii)iis, the old system, hy which the whole Imltalion is sent al)road, leaving recruiting parties at home, or tiie jueseut system, hy which only six companies arc • sent ahroail, and four renmin in depot' Having never comniamlcd a regiment since the depot system commenced, 1 have not turned my attention to the sul)ject, and theieloie do not h el comiietent to answer that iiuestion. ()(i4. Does that mililiuy force perlorin the duties ol po;iie- - It would occa- sionally second the police," not at all limes; il would nit perform nolicc duties generally. (^iliincl Charln Ntipitr, 95 April lrt;t4. 54 Culond Ckaritt Nafiitr. MINUTES OF E\-IDENCE UEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE «5 April 1834. 9M. Do you recollect what was the amount of purison that vou Im.l «t r . bn.H at tiK. .nne you were there /-(Jenerally ahou*^^ 4 o men Vt.iuk "'"* ^^7. What wa. the number „, the police Lee p4vt^^L!a^S if I .eeollect duii:^Ji:^:r;;;ei?inti^i::?r^::'i'r"'"' -'' '^ -^^^-^^^ ».. ha:;fL;:!:;hh".:;oir"""'^°" '"■"' '* ""«•'» ^ -^--^^^-^ •"i-^couid duSeV; "" '"'■'■''""■y >^""^'^-^ "'"' ^'-■'i^' il,„ r • • ' """'' '''« »l.id, prevail, ; ^^ i I 1 ' ' ;''■","'" "" '*""" '" <'■!' •"'I««' .a. ,„,. ^„^,„i„v £ ;^';; ;:!;;»!-?;• ^i':|:t„it """'> ^"" " J.,.j:i:^;in,f,nr;l",r;,!^:,rt^,;;-;;ir'--^"-''- Uii^ht ON MILITARY KSTABLISHMF.NTS IN THE COLONIES. ,55 mij^lit be du-Hper thiin llie rejjulHr fora; now einployiMl ; tlii-n in what proportion do yon think it wonlil lie sale to divide the g.irrison ol' 1,000 men which yon deem sntficient for tho whoh; service' in tinu; of pence ?— Except in cxtrnordinury circum- stances, I should keep ."joo men iit (Jortu, luid divide the other 500 among the other six islundx.-* ()S4. The question went heyond that ; the fjueation whs, in what proportions of colonial troops and of English troops you think the 1,000 men might safely consist ? — I consider hoth sate, and therefore I do not sec that any particular pro- portion of eithei' would he unsafe. 985. Then it is your opini(m that, under present circumstances, this rountry could rely on the security of the Ionian Islands with a garrii-on of 1,000 men, composed of Maltese or (ireekn, as the sole military means of defence ? — Not of defcnct; against a foreign enemy, but suflicient for giving security and strength to the government, if good. 9«ti. Are you acrpiainted with the Maltese character? — Yes, I had 300 of them at Ccphalonia ; they came to the island lazy and idle in the extreme, and wlieii I came away, an equal number of CJreek labourers would not perform as much work as was performeipon wliat the forces brought against them may be ; if the coup de main be made with .-j.uoo men upon Cephaloniu, it wouhl require J.ooo or ;;,ono tnen to repel 11; and if with 10,000 men, the resisting force must be increased ; also the disf.osition of the inhabitants tow arils the enemy, and the descri|)tion of the troops on both sides, must all be considered ; all depends upon the circumstances of the case. ()i)3. Are yon not pre[)arcd to state what you consider to be a surticieiit peace establishment for those islands ?— Ves, I am. I should say l.ooo men would be sufficient in a time of jieace ; the garrisons, in peace ami war, are totally different ; there can be no connexion w iiatever between them, because if yon are prepared for war the vorks must he manned, and the different posts occupied ; in peace the . garrison is merely to assist the police. (it)4. Hut when you are asked the question, it is understood in tliis .sense, taking any probable amount of force which an enemy might be enabled to land, wiiat should yon think would be a suliicient protection :-— It depends upon the probable strength of the force that you are to defend the island against. !)!»,')■ (ireal Britain being a great maritime poi\er, this case is put under the 8Up|)osition that only a temporary superiority might be obtained by an enemy, anil theretorc that the garrisons, even if exposed to attack, would, in all probability, be relieved in a very short time?— I do not feel at ail able to reply to it in a positive manner ; tiiere are so many circumstances that are to be taken into consideration before one can answer a qut:slion of that kind, that I could not pretend to do it. "•■■^5- 114 996. Would 56 MINUTKS OF KVIDF.NCK HFFOIIK SFI.KCT COMMITrKE Ctilonel Charltn Nnpui. «9 April iHy4 ()()(i. W'oiiltl 1,10 men 1)1' Mirtiiiiiit (or the isluiul ot Zunte r — I tliiiik not; llii? niiiiilicr iniist ho tlic nuiiibcr rnitiircd to iiitin the walls ot the lurtreMH. ()])7. Voii ittatt'd your o|iini()ii tiiiit i.ooo iiioii, in Hiitisli, Multi-se or CJrecks, wiTc 11 MitHcicnt jirotuclion tor tliu loniini iHhindM in time of jieiice ? — I tiiink so. i)()K. Von pive tliut opinion enlirtly uithont reference to Alic extent oftlio works in any of llie islanil.s • KxiJCtly mo. ;)j)|). At wliul time did yon leuvc the Ionian Islunds : — In the year i8;jo. 1000. Arc yon luvare of the extent and of tin' pliin of the fortress of Vido? — No. 1001. Are you av\ure that the protection of the Ionian Islands by Great Bri- tain is a niatteiof treaty betuecn tliis country and tlie other povvtu's oi' ICiirope r — Yes. loo'j. Do you conceive that iiavinj; hound this country to protect the Ionian Islands afjainst any possible invasion or attack by any power, tliat that condition would be faithfully (lerlormed by (ireat JJritain were a ^arri^^on of only i.ooo men, and those not British subjects, to be left in the Ionian Islands? — With the assistance of n Urilish man-of-war, I do conceive it would be so. lOL';]. Did you, when yon were at Corfu, see the work that was erecting; at Vido? — I (lid not examine it ; I iiavc been there but one liuy since those woiks were begun. 1004. Perhaps you never beard then tiiat the engineer wlio projected that work calculated that 4 ",() effective men wore necessary for its defence r — No, I never did ; but I heard that the intention was to reduce the necessity of bavinj^ so large u garrison as formerly. 100,''). Four hundred and fifty etlectivc men would be, u|)i)n an uverajje, a bat- talion of six companii's upon tiio present establishment, would it not f -I believe 80 ; about that. ii)o(). 'FIk refore in calculating the force necessary for the defence of the Ionian Islands, Vido alone, upon that computation, would recpiirc u battalion? — I suppose so. 1007. Have you ever heard what the calculation of the French was for manning the works lis at present existing in ('orfu? — I have, but not upon any good authority. 1005. Cuu you favour the (oinmittce with what you have heard upon that sub- ject: - I heard that tiie computation "as iVom 10,000 to 1,5,000 nten. loop. Have you ever heard »vliat the company of engineer officers who went from KnghuUi in the year i SJ4 calculated to be tlie force recjuired for the man- ning of those \\()rksas at present existing? No, I have not. 1010. .\ie you aware of what is the plan of the Hrilish (lovernment with respect to the retbrmation of the works at Corfu .' — No, I am not, except that of reducing the number of the garrison recpiired by the French works. 101 1. Have yon heard that it was the object in establishing Vido to protect the anchorage, and at the samv time to limit the existing works to tlie Citadel and I'ort Ncuf, giving up St. Salvadors and other advanced works? Having been at ('epliu- lonia tor tlie last eight years, and totally occupied with the government of that island, I knew nothing aliout the fortifying of Corfu, except iieaiinjj the public outcry at the enormous expense ol these fortiHcations, 1012. Then does your estimate of this 1,000 men, being the forc(! necessary for the whole of the seven islands, in time of pi;,ice, etjuline itself to what is necessary for police, or does it embrace any military consideration? — .Somewhat of botii, as it involves the care, if not the defence of the Ibrtilications. I consider that in time of peace a good government secures the aft"ections of tin; inhabitants, and that 1,000 men, assisted by the inhabitants, would be |)erfectly (Mpial to op|)ose any temporary coinmotion in tlie island, and that if anv foreign attack were meditated there would be sulKcient time to reinforce those troops from Malta , and I am the more satislicd of that opinion being correct, because all Southern nations kno-.v how to use arms, anil beliinil works tiierc is no necessity for drilling troops to military evolutions ; a peasant may be made lit to defend fortilications in a week. I re|)eat, that the pcojile of the islands inav be attached to our government by a just system, and wouki defend their country ; and all questions of defence must hinge uj)on this point. ;\ strong proof of this took place in Ccphaionia, where tiic French garri- son was raptured by the peasantry a few days before the Russian troops arrived. This garrison, assisted by the peasants, might base defended the island. 101 J. Now, supposing that there should be in tiie present stale of Turkey any alarm ON MILITARY ESTAIJI.ISIIMENTS IN THE COLONIES. ,7 S"i:l,l;t':zrt;;: ';;,^'"!7":' «--•'"' *- 1'^ ''""^ '^"^ ^""'•' ^^^ -i--^ I suppose? ' " 1^«"'""<'II«'' to Corfu ?~Mta„in.,viH, u lorcc. i" i"»MhI"Jcl^," er'^m/orj;^^^^^ T "" ••'"■'•' ""."''' """"'•"*"'' ^'"" '"^""'" fiv« ila^.. • "'"'""'<'' "'« I'-^sttXe "• 0.... tlml i»ay In; ,„a,lc in Jour or arr^;';; (ta!";;ft:;;;;;!''r;n7' '"V '**? '"""""^ •^^'"^•^ roi„force,n.„tH coul.l Bri,i.,l.auUKa.i;i r n'; ' « 't Zk ".; I ""^"r ^"^ <<."-- thereby the co.nenon. Malta i„ ,„u h I " t 1 wl ' . ^ "'"*"'.•■;• '*'"' '•^'ntorcements ,„ight of li;n;\lS'";:'w;;:u'',r\i!;TZ^''' '^'~"";-. -'".t i:* U.. co.np..tation "I'on «i.ul an,l olhcr cirrun.stancis '^ ^ ' ''"""-''*-■■■' " ""'^' •'^'^'"1 part of ,lK. ultr doni Z^ •'^'l""'''' "I'o" what the I Xrn.h-^,""^ ''"''''"■ ''"■»^"'""''"»«"««"'s^ it. in the Adriatic Soviinnunt nmv drive the ihhnl,it«„; . •*« su.prisul i^ time of peace ; a bud question. - '"babUttut* to a {reneral revolt, but that is another of vk'^t.^^'SSSr"' ""i '"'l'"^"'"'^'' "f ''"^ ^""io" I^^lu-Kls, in a pob.icai point born, \\.nireXo a '''• ,^,f ^'"' '•"'"'"-.'■'-•'"I to«n.s ot Alexandria, Sn,y,„a, . " ' t. Antona. 1 rieste, and other important connnercial towns }- Yes. crii- or lese inir , M'ortant connnercial towns?— Yes Mediie'a e:;;: r'!;nl"r:;S' •::''"' "'""^ "V"- '^'"'^'' ''"--^-- - "- f^bould take, CVS .> " "M'orUu.t that the Uritish (mvernn.ent «liscrttion of tlie British and I..ni,.n f .. """■'^*'""" }"^ t.eaty to leave it at the "fci^Mny ; •^ou,,„i^, tall ''"'•'■'"'' ''', '''^^'^■'"""^' "''"t '^rce nu.v be fur ifi .;;J,nor' r''^- ''"''■'' ""'' >•"" ''"^^' ""' "" i'-i'""'" "<"■'" i-' t'.- Z^ ZZ r ""'° "'" "'"'"'^ " ^-lu P-Yc, 1 have lo stated; in time of peace ' '""""'■^' '''"^' ^~'^''' ' ""' "^t "^ ""»t opinion, 0.J5. * IOJ4. Ui.w ('iiloiifl Charlti Nitfiici. K9 April |H;i4. Ciilonel Ckarlti Niipia 99 April 1834. ' la 58 MINUTES OF EVIDF.NCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE ,0-4 How would vou kec|. the island of Vido in time of |,eacc?-By a small detachment, t.. prevent injury l.einu done to the works ; .ay r>o or 100 men ,. ' . I'hui.'- in.plicil confidence, therefore, hoti, on the d.spos.t.ou of the .n- hHhitant* of liieislands, as well as in the state of the ne..hl.ounng countnes ■'-No; bee t.ooo n.en, c;pHhle of giving a detachn.ent to VkIo, suffre.ent to protect h fron. anv attack of tlu inhahitants ; and I do not heheye that any attack from a foreig!; IL eouU! be made without the govern.nent ol Cortu havnig long previous notice, ouite lon<' enough to provide the means ot defence. 026 Should von imagine that that system would be sufhc.ent for the i ower ot London, which has now a%egul«r garrison of a battalion "^ .P'^^*^";' » r;""';,".- tion of artiUerY?— The Tower of London is situated m the nuddle ot a null o and a°mif ofp orfe, among whon. great n.unbers are naturally discontented and there- ?oe I do not see anv- relation between the two circuu.stances ; and moreover, I conside^ that with >ou men at Vido, it would be more secure than the lower ot London would be with a battalion ot guards. „„„:„pp,. nffieer ,027. But as you have not visited Vido, and the opinion of the engmee. ofi^cer being that 4,^0 men are necessary for its defence, do y^'\;}^''l''fr;^;^'^'^' oDinioP if yours may be disputed ?— Any opmion may be disputed ; but the 450 m n c leul ted for the defence of Vido is to meet the regular attack ot an enemy N ,w I b lieve that a garrison of . 00 men coul.l defend Vido against a l.ai^ul ot the (i reek peasants, vri.o must attack it in boats, ll.ut con d not be sec.ety us- em .1 I to'pass them over, and their landing n.ust be umler the ire of too se^d 1 . from the is and, and the guns of Corfu. Besides, the Greek peasants do not Sigl ex oL'themselves'in the tiel.i to a regular fire, because at Santa Maura nbove^'ioo o, them were opposed to 600 of our troops, and I believe "^ ''•^^' "^^ a single man kil'e.l, uhile the 2.000 peasants were defeated with great lo.s. And alJl m y U^^'ve that 1 have been at Vido, though I have not seen these new ! orks ; it\s a small island, uhich can be reached by fire rom t e «">•-- ^ part, and is not commanded (which I believe the lower ot London is) by v te houses ; hut it is 40 years since 1 have been in the To^^er, and the.efore 1 cannot speak more particularly to that point. lO'H If such were the result of 2,000 peasants when opposed to boo Untisl troops, do you conceive that confiding the defence of the islands to the armed p3trv would be an efficient system of defence?-! think that Wr^'at numbm o the .. asantiy ought be effectually employed behind works. I do not say that U ey -H'ld he s^o useful in the open' field. And there is this also to be observed, that in using them, they would be employed united with regular troops and a man- " roi). Vou iiave expressed an opinion in favour of colonial corps composed of Greeks or Maltese-— Not generally ; on the contrary, I was rather against colonial corps :.s a portion of the British army. When I recommend . Maltese corps tor the Ionian Islands, I do so, not as an advantage to the British army, hu as a necessary piece of economy for the seven islands, and which my knowledge of their preseiU wa eful expenditure tells mc to be a matter of the very first import- ance for consideration. ,1 ; 1 ,i.„, min ,050. Had yuu in contemplation the case ot war when you sau that rem- Ibicements might be sent fVom Malta to the _l.=.ian Is an.^ ; < id ym. inean a Briti^h force, or a .Maltese force, by that answer r-1 meant a Maltese fo.ct, anil a Brili^ll one, if Malta had troops enough to spare. 10 51 Tiien you contemplated, in the answer which you gave with respect to the Ionian Islands, that there uould be during peace a sutlicient force 111 Malta to be able in case of a «ar breaking out, to delaeh a fore.,' to the Ionian Islamis, ami yet retain a sufficient force to defend .Malta ^ -I meant that you could get the Jommon people, the und,sei,.lin.d peasantry from Malta, n. sufficient """' ^s to double, or treble, or quadruple the gar. ..son with Maltese, if you chose and ha if there we.e regular tn.ops to spare at Malta, of course 111 a moment of Oang. they «ould be sent. But «hat 1 immediately referred to was the peasantry ot '^''lo32. Therefoie, in case of any da.iger arisi.ig, of which lutelligenee should reaei. the Ionian Island., you «ould pr^p.^ne t!.a a number o. peasants ^..U l.e sent fr4(). lint the qiiistion referred to a jirevioiis question put to von, namely, whether the militia (if the island would be siitlicient lor its defence in I'ase of sudden *'•-.')• I i liuslilllies? — (i(. MINUTES OF KVIDKN'CE KEFOIIE SELECT COMMITTEE I ^ Colonel hosliliticsr — This depends upon wliut nation (lie enemy is of. Against Austria or Charles Nupier. Tuikcv, ycs, in addition to the loico I rccoinuiend ; against llussia or Greece, no. Mv opinion is, that no attack can be made without the government of Corfu being 99 April 1834. acquainted with it. I consider liiat it would be a complete ^urprise and a degree of blindness on the part of that government, which no calculation can provide against ; in short, it is imp()ssil)le. 10,50. Do you contemplate that if any colonial corps were appointed, those corps should be under the orders and in the pay of this country, or in tiie pay of the independent republic of the Seven Islands? — In the pay of the independent republic of the Ionian Islands, in accordance with the Treaty of I'aris. io,')i. Do you consider that as a portion of tlie regular force of the Ionian Islands? — I should con-'-ier it as the whole regular force, in addition to the militia. lo,")-- Are you aware that the first article of the second section of the seventh chapter of the constitutional chart of the Ionian Islands, being- adopted by the Powers of Europe as incident to the Treaty of Paris, is to the following efl'ect : " The military ilefence of the United States of the Ionian Islands being placed in the hands of the protecting sovereign, the sole regular military establishment shall consist of llic t'orces of Ills Majesty'? — I am perfectly aware of that; and also that by the Treaty of Paris, or by the constitution, that it tiepends upon tiie Ionian Parliament, witli the consent of the protecting sovereign, to make such chan(res in the constitution us it may be rtcpiisite to do; l)Ut I do not recollect the arii(?le of tlie constitution; I have not referred to it for a long time, but it strikes me that there is tliat power. 105,}. Hut according to the existing constitution your proposal is not admissible? — Y'es, it is admissible. The Maltese are the subjects of the King of England, and a Maltese corps wouKl therefore form part of the forces of Mis Majesty; indeed, any corps he ciiooses to raise would be so ; and these forces, to the amount of ;5,ooo, the Itmian Islands are by the Treaty of Paris bound to pay; the em|)loyment of this corps is liierefore admis-ible, even according to the existing constitution. 1 0,54. You stated tlie other day, that for the purpose of the internal defence of the islands, the (i reeks from the continent might be depended upon ; do you think that tlieir introduction wouhl be conformable to the spirit of the agreement, which vests the protection of those islands in Ikitish and Ionian subjects exclusively ? — I consider so, as a great nmnber of the constables now employed are (irccks of the continent, or at least ihey \vere so when I was in the Ionian Islands. i().-,,5. Do you in that Greek or colonial corps contemplate the having any Ihilisli otlicers, and what pro|)ortion '. — I answered tlial cpiestion tiie other day. I think that there should be one connnanding otVicer, an adjutant, and us many more us may be found convenient. lOfjCi. Vou are aware, are you not, that under similar circum.stunces in the Por- tuguese army, that at least one-half of the j;iptains of companies were British otiicers: — Yes, 1 an) ; but I knew exceptions ; 1 saw two good regiments with but one English officer ir. each. UK,7. Now, with reference to the attack of Vido by the inhabitants, besides the other difficulties which yon have stated, wero not the population entirely disarme ^o" bave stated that there is a certain amount of force in each of the other islands ; do you consider that « ilh the lorce which you have just spoken of as necessary to Corlii, the troops now stationed, or which were stationed ut the time you Mei<' there, in the other islands could saltly be ilispensed with ." — I do not consider that the force was ever sufficient for llu- maintenance of the islands, be- cause tlu' garri-ons of the several islands must always have been concentrated in that one ishind in case of a serious attack. io7(). What force, under the altereil circumstanc(s, would he equivalent to the .;,ocH) men under the pieviously existing circumstances including the 1,700 men »or Corfu?— Small dclacbments at the other islands would be sufficient, but not at all as a military deltncc, because il yon were to put a j-arrison into the diflerent islands It "ould require an in. mense force. 1077, What tlo you consider would be sufficient for Cephalonia ?— Possibly loo men, but not as a military force. 107K. You mean merely as a police ?— Ves, to keep the government respected " ■ \ '•■ •'".^ •"-'.<<. .\t r.iiuW, I T.ui-.xmi -ay tiic yainr nuinitci, and loo at S.uita Miiuia ; but I do not speak of this as a force at all sufficient for the protec- tnm of flTislamlsm a military point of view ; you might as well have nolhin- as have (mly that number; but th<' force MJiicli' I lane >tated for the garriM)n of ( orfu I consider amply sufficient against anyeneinv, 1 might say even a determined ^'■^5' ' 3 ' ' enemy; Sir Ji)\cpli Riididcll- 29 April 1834. Sir Joiep/i RudtdeU, ay April 1834. 62 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE enemy ; but thfii I do not consider the force that I have stated for the other islands, wliic.i is 300 men, to be of any service whatever in u military point of view, and they must he all sacrificed in case of uttacit, if not concentrated in Corfu. n)7(). What amount of establishment do you consider would furnish 1,700 eftective men? — I should think 2,000; 1 have not made out 1,700 men, I nave only made out 1 .(ioo ; I took the average. io8o. Do you mean Dritish troops, exclusive of any local troops?— I mean British troops. 1081. When yor state that 1,700 men would bo sufficient for the protection of Corfu, do you think that in time of profound peace so large a force is necessary in Corfu, and mij^ht not a portion oi them be detached to the other islands, for the purposes whicli you have already alluded to ?— It might ; but I tliink that it would be much safer to keep the troo|)s at Corfu. ioSj. Vou have stated, tliat in tlie event of an enemy attacking the Ionian Islands, the detachments in the smaller islands would be sacrificed, but that the force in Corfu would he sutVicient to stand a siege for some weeks ; are the Com- mittee to understand tliat you make that statement under the impression that as long as we keep possession of Corfu, although an enemy might in the first instance obtain possession of the other islands, yet with our |)reponderance at sea they could not be expected to retain permanent possession of them ? — You could not expel them without a superior force. 1083. But having the command at sen, should nut we be able to prevent their receiving any rcinforcemtnts, and by that means force thini into a surrender? — Not for a very considerable period. 1084. Then, upon what ground do you say that a reduction may be made in the force stationed in Itie Ionian Islands? — I have already explained that 1,600 or 1,700 men are sufficient for the garrison of Corfu to defend it against any enemy. 108';. But if an enemy could obtain possession, and keep it, of the other islands, what would be the advantage of our having C/orfu?— To keep the Adriatic ; I con- sider it the key of tiie .Adriatic. 1086. Is there not an excellent harbour and roadstead in Cephalonia? — Not near so good as at Corfu ; at Corfu ships ran get out with any wind. 1087. Are you well acquainted with the harbour of Cephalonia? — No further than having fre(|uei,tly visited it; 1 never surveyed it. 1088. Supposr len, in the event of war, if we mean to retain possession of the Ionian Islands, it ould be necessary to send large reinforcements, would it not? — We might keep tlie island of Corfu with the force I iiave stated. 1089. But this question has reference to the other islands? — The other islands must be sacrificed of coiiise, unless properly and sufficiently garrisoned. 1090. But it we wish to retain possession of those islands, must we not send out very large reinforceuients ? I should consider so, certainly. 1091. Your proposal is H)o men at present for Cephalonia ; at the time you were speaking of, 1 believe the force then amounted to about /ioo men, did it not? — I dare say it did. 1092. W hat are the eiiTunihtances tliat induced you to think that if 500 men were not more tiiaii sutVicient in those times, that 100 men would be siitiicient at the present r— The disturbed state of tiie opposite eo men wcaiid be siiflicient. iioj. .Ale not the inliubilanls disnriiied ? ~ They "ere disarmed; but their arms, in some ol ihi; islands, have been icturnrd to them, I lii'lievc. nil. iluw d(j you reconcile these last answers with your staleinent that 100 men sucli, as r be still continued, wouhl not peasants be found to work efhciently under their superir.tcndence and that of the officers of engineers? — Not so well as men of the line, «!)' I'e accustomed to that kind lit uork- 1 140. U ould they not soon acquire that by practice? — Miey would acquire it, but not immediately ; but then the service of a good wO! ii..i:ii in Corlu could not be had lor less than tour or five times tlie expense ot a soldier ; I think I may say almost eight times the expense of a soldier; bui. I am not quite sure on that point. 1141. What ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 6,5 114'- Wimt is the pay of a native artii.cer of Corfu ?— A good workman (a car- penter or mason) can earn at lea t 3 v. 6d. a day. 1 142. What is the i)ay of a British |)rivate soldier wiien employed on the works > — Jsixpence a day, I believe, for the greater part of the men employed ; I believe the superior class of workmen iiave a higher pay ; I think, but am not sure, ad. or 1 «. per day. ^ 1 143. Is not that in addition to his pay .' — Yes. 1 144- Then, in j.oint of fact, not a British soldier, who may be nothing more than a common labourci, very near half as expensive as the Corfu artificfr -— In this country, but not to the Ionian Islands. 114,5. Wh»t is thr average pa of a common labourer in the island of Corfu "- —It depends on the season and tlie demartd for his services ; I cannot make an average. _i 14C. Is it equal to the pay of a day labourer in this country, who receives 20ci a day .' -it depends on the time of year ; it is impossible for me to make an average' so much depends on the demand for labour. ° ' 1 147 If peasants were employed to u great extent instead of soldiers, the pay ot thosL soldiers >ho are now employed as artificers, in the event of the garrison being reduced, would be saved to this country, v»ould it not?— The paf of tlio«e soldiers « Intli nere uithdniwn from Corfu uonid be saved. 1148. Altiiuugh there might oe an apparent increase in the expense of the work, that would fall on the Ionian finances?— Yes, if the works were continued by the T lan Government. 1 1 49. \ ou are aware ihat thu^,^' works were made under stipulations between the British and Ionian Governments, and that tliey were to contribute at the rate ot .20,000/. a year, exclusive of a company of sappers and miners, win. h were to be charged at 2,800/. a year to the Ionian Ciovcrnnient, and that this work was calculated to be perlorniid by British soldiers? — Yes. 1 iTiO. Had they a discretionary power of employing soldiers or civilians ? Yes. ii,"-,!. Did the employment of civilians, wiien absolutely necessary, cau.se an increase of expense ?— Yes. 1 152. To whom.'- The Ionian Government. 1 153. While the battalions of British soldiers employed at the island of Vido are engaged in tlie.se military works, they are at the same time available for any sudden emergency which might be required in case of hostilities or commotion ?— Tiiev would be available in half an hour; that is, it would only require the time to brin^r them troni the i.slaiul of Vido to Corfu. '^ 1154. Then, until the works are completed, in your estimation, there is a savins ot expense and a greater degree of availubilitv fo'r general •service in having this larger proi)orlion ot Britisii troops during the jjiogress of the works ?— Yes. n;,.';. In reference to your former examination, will you be so good as to state, taking into consideration the whole of tlie ordinary circumstances of the seven Ionian Lsland.s, what you consider to be the smallest British force whicii oii.dit to be tliere employed during a time of peace?— On the supposition that Vido, Fort ^cut and the Citadel are in a state of defence, that place might be safelv entrusted witii 1,700 etVective men, the town being still open. With respect to the other six islands, I siiould say it would require loo etleclive men for Zante too lor Cephalonia, 100 for vSanla Maura, :,o (or Cerigo, and •."; lor Ithaca, at the least; and I have stated this latter force lor the five islands on tlie suppositioi»that the leeling ot the people is in our favour. il',S. If yon uere consulted by the C;overnment, or made olKcially responsible tor the holding ol the Ionian Islands, tuider ordinary circumstances, in time of oeace what nnhtary lorce would you ask for in order to" feel your.self secure under such' risponsil.dily >.—l should, taking into consideration that the defences of Corfu are Jiot comi)lete, require 3,000 eHeetive men at least. 1 >,-,y. If complete, what then r— A small diininulion. I i()o. To wiiat extent? — I'rom 400 to tioo men. n(>i. You were understood to state yesterday, in reply to a question liiat uas put to you, that, even su|.posing we had the prepondera'nce by sea, vet that an I 'III ' lit V til L II tir t .....■..'...-. I.... ..»" .1 II .. : I I I ■ . I . "^ . . . ' em my takinn moss possession of the snmHer iiihinds !!ii"!it id! tary iio-vsession of Curlii, keep oijizli we !.tili retain i iiiiii- it \our opinion tiial if we were to ret posoessioii of tho>e islanils for a very long time, h inn our preponderance by sea tiiev coulil retain possession of them lor any very considerable period -—I >houUi think tliev might iniiintain tlicmsi.lves lor a verv coii^ iible time. Sir Joteph Hudsdt/l. » Mny 1834. U.J I I l(ij. Would 66 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Sir Joteph Rudidell. I May 1834, 1162. Would they not be eventually obliged to surrender by the mere employ- ment of a naval force r — I think not, unless they were starved out ; and I am not at all [irepared to say that a naval force could so blockade some of the islands as to prevent supplies beinij thrown into thcin. 1 163. Could those supplies he thrown in unless the disposition of the inhabitants were favourable to that invading force ? — I tiiink not. iir)4. Is Corfu a ciiea|) country to live in ^ — For British residents it is a dear country, compared with Malta or the Continent ; that is, the north of Italy or the Roman States. 116/). But as compared with England ?— The expense of living in ('orfu is very considerably mdeed less than in England, particularly in the articles of meat and wines ; perhaps though, in the latter article, there is not a great saving of expense, as the consumption consists ciiittly of lorfign wines, say the lighter and superior French wines. Wine, the protluce of the country, (son)e of wliich is very good) is not much used. I must add, that there are no assessed taxes to the cnipby^s houses, or an equivalent in lieu thereof is allowed. iitifi. Do they not receive their wines free from the heavy duties which are chargful upon them in England ? — There was a heavy duty on foreign wine upon its entrancelnto Corfu, but I believe that heavy duty is verv considerably lessened ; at no time was the duty for the importation of wine in Corfu so heavy as I believe it to be and was in England. 1167. You stated in your last examination that the salary of the Lord High Commissioner from tiic Ionian revenues was ,'i,(H)() /. a year; ilo you consiiler, from your knowledge of the country, that a smaller salary woulil be sutlicient ? — I do not think ."jjOoo /. a year is too much for a Lord High Commissioner of the Ionian Islands. 1168. Do you think he requires that salary to k(ep up the pro[)er state of his office, or could he do it for less ? — I think, certainly, be could not do it for less than 4, one/, a year, and then the greatest economy must be consulted in his domestic arrangements. 11 (if). You have slated, that with economy it migiit be possible for the Lord Higii Commissioner to carry on his duties for 4,000/. a year; do you take into your calculation the great expense to wiiieb an officer of high rank is exposed for outfit r—1 mean ttiattiie 4,000/. a yiar with great economy, and possilily with p.i- vationsa Lord High Commissioner ought not to be subject to, would only cover the expenses which a Lord High Commissioner must incur; I do not take into consideration the outfit. 1170. Do you think it would be expedient to reunite the offices of Lord High Commissioner and Counnander of the Forces in the same |Vison?^I think the situation of fiovernor and Counnander of the Force s c()ud>ined in the same per- son is alwavs desirable. 'I'ln le is a possibility of collision when thev are separate; and in point of economy, with reference to Corfu, it would be more economical to unite both situations in one person. When the office of Lord High Counnissioner and the general officer couunaniling t!ie forces is vest< d in one person, 1 tlo not think tiie officer wiio is second !> oimn.nid need have, exclusive of his military pay, the i.'jfi.';/. a year now piiid by the Ionian govtrnment to the ofHcer se(;ond in connnand. 1171. In tiie event of a military officer uniting the duties of the Lord High Commissioner iuid (.'onniiander of the Forces, would you not think it expedient that .some increase shonlii he uiaiie in his siilnry in ci>nsi ^o l^lgc the 1,700 men that you consider ought to be the garrison for Conu ; - I iui;;;> so. I do not recollect at this moment the extent of quarters for trcoi»,s wliirli will be constructed. On my exumiiiatiou on Tuesday last, I was at^Kcd whether liips would be safe in the anchorage betwixt the island of Vido and Corfu when the works at Vido, Fort Neuf and the citadel should be completed. I believe I stated, in reply, that the anchorage would be secure. I beg to explain, that in the event of the garrison of Corfu being invested by an enemy, and he possessing himself of the Horghi ot Castrades and Manducchio, that there are two points from which he could throw shells into the anchorage betwixt Vido and the town and citadel of Corfn. Veneris, 2° die Maii, 1834. LORD VISCOUNT EBRINGTON, IN THE CHAIR. 2 May 1834. Robert IVilUatn Hay, Esq. called in ; and further Examined. JtolitJi^. Hav, Esq. 1194. WILL you state the nature of the connection which sul)sists between Great Britain and the Ionian Islands? — The Committee are aware that at the ter- mination of the war the Ionian States were placed under the protection of the British Government, by an arrangement with the powers of Europe, and by an article of the Treaty of Paris. In order to insure the proper protection which was intended for these islands, it was settled that a convention shoul;! be entered into for determining and regulating-, according to the revenues of the Ionian States, every thing which might relate to the maintenance of the fortresses already existing, us well as to the subsistence and payment of the British garrisons, and to the number of men of which they should be com|)oscd in time of peace. 1 1 9,5. Have you got the article of the Treaty ? — Yes, it is here. 1 196. Head it. [Copy (if' Articles \. and \ I. between Great Britain and Russia, &;c., respecting the Ionian Islands, signed at Paris, fjlli November 1 8 1 ,>, ky/.v given in.\ " In order to insure, without restriction, to the inhabitants of the United States of the Ionian Islanils the advantages resulting from the high protection under which these States are placed, as well as for the exercise of the rights inliercnt (in the said protection. His Britannic Majesty shall have the right to occupy the fortresses and places of those States, and to maintain garrisons in the same. Tiic military force of the said United States shall also be under the orders of the comniiinder-iu-chief of the troops of His Britannic Majesty. His Britannic .Majesty C(msents that a particular convention with the Government of the said United States shall regulate, according to the revenues of these States, every thing win. h inav relate to the maintenance of the fortresses already existing, as well as to the subsistence and payment of the British garrisons, and to the number of men of which they shall be composed in time of peace. The saiuf convention shall likc- u'ise fix the relations which are to exist between the said armed force and the Ionian Government." 1 1 i)j. NVas that convention in pursuance of the Treaty ever entered into bet.veeii Great Britain and the Ionian Islands? — No, it was not; no convention was maile. 1198. Has not the constitutional chart of the Ionian Islanils been considered, ^o far as it goes, as supplying the place of that convention which it was stipulated by the Treaty should take place? — It basso. I I (10. Will vou read the article of the chart of the Ionian States which relates to the military forces to be maintained there ? — There are two or three articles which more iiarticularlv 'late to this subject ; but 1 will give in, as an extract fruin tiie constitutional chart of the Ionian Islands, the whole of the second section of tlie 7th chapter. [Paper given in.] ijoo. With a May 11(34. ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 69 1200. With reference to that article, is there an extraordinary discrepancy be- RuU.if Ha,/ E,q tween the Eni;lish translation and the orininiil Italiiin clmrt, of which the trans- ' lation purported to be a faithful copy .'—In the triinsiation from the Italian, the word " St raorJinarie" is left out, which in the Italian copy follows " xbese milittiri." ^ '^ 1201. By the Italian original, therefore, the Ionian Islands were chnrged with «iuartering ()f the troops, and, j^enernlly speukinji, with all the extraordinary military expense of the force, not exceeding J.ouo men?— Yes, that is the technical expla- nation of that phrase. 1 202. The word " slrtionlimirie" bcinjj left out, the English translation would seem to indicate that the whole expense of the 3,01)0 men was to be chnri'ed on the Ionian Islands? — No doubt, if that be the reading; of that passai'c. 120:3. l'«s this ever been definitively settled, or any arnmgement ever defini- tively made with regard to the expense to be borne for military protection by the Ionian Islands ? — No ; there has been no arrangement whatever. 1204. What are the different heads of expenditure which ut different times have been borne by the Ionian Islands? — In the first i)lace, all the expense of quarter- ing the troops was undertaken by the Ionian (Jovernment, and the payment of the staff, with the extra allowances to the second in command of the troops, and ulti- mately there was a large contribution for the military works, and the pay of a corps of sappers and miners. 120,5. At what time was the contribution to the military works first began, and upon what understanding and by what authority were the expenses incurred ? The first commencement of that arrangement was in consequence of a communica- tion made to the Government at home by Sir Thomas Maitland, in 1823, upon which a committee of engineer otticers was appointed, uniler the direction of the Ordnance, and it ajjpeared from their report, that an estimate to the amount of 172,000/. would be recpiired for the construction of certain works which it was thought expedient to undertake. A communication was accordingly made to the Ionian Government on this subject, who consented to undertake this charge, payinc by instalments of 20,000/. a year, which payment has been made annually since the year 182.5. 1206. Who were the officers who composed that commission: — Colonel (now Sir George) Uhitmore, Sir .John Jones and t;a|)tain Harper. 1207. That sum of 172,000/. was taken upon an estimate by these engineer officers, and was voted by the Ionian Parliament towards their military jirotection, at the rate of 20,000/. a year: — Yes, the sum of 172,000/. was considered the original estimate, but by some error, the cause of which has not been discovered, only 164,000/. was voted by the Ionian Parliament. 1205. Has that estimate been since exceeded? — That estimate has been ex- ceeded, and that increase first came to the knoivledge of the Government in iSjc) when it was ascertained, by a report from Corfu, that lij.oou/. additional would be required. Upon this communication, an instruction was sent out to the Lord High Commissioner to make a fresh proposition to the Ionian Parliament, that these instalments should be continued for a longer period, and the sum required tor one year has since been voted. 120(). Wiiat has lieen the substance of the communication which has passed within the last year upon the sLibjcct of the additional estimate to f)e sul)mitled to the Ionian Parliament :- -That full incpiiry would be maile as to the further sums which might be rc(|iiire(l, and ail the |)a'pers laid before the Ionian Parliament which they had (died for, and which ought to have been comuiunicated to them at an earlier period. In compliance with the original instructions sent out. 1210. During the course of the present year has any arrangement been proposed for the purpose of bringing the whole expenditure of tlie Ionian Islands more im- mediately under the control of Parliament, and of settling the ^mu (which never has been yet fixed) which shall be paid by the Ionian Islands for their military pro- tection :- In conse(|uenee of a ccmimunication from Lord Nugent, an instruction has been sent out to him to propose to the Ionian I'arliament to take a rouml sum of 3,5,000/., in lieu of all the military |)ayments which have hitherto been made by I, iiicluV\ I.. ..1- . __ 1- 11 .1 ■ ■ y. J. •k May 1834. u;cntTiil, I,,10,''|/. The vului' ot' qmirtcM .su[)|)lii!il liy the Ionian (lovcrnment to ihe troops, it in «iirtii-ult toestimnte. I tind.upon the best inquiry I run niakf, that it should not he thtimatcd at less than ^o"" /• A «'om|mny of sappers and miners, 2, 800 /. ; a contrihiiiion into tlie uiihtary chtsi, /i.ooo /. 1 ou^ht here to say that this pay! incnt arose troni an arrangement uhirh was made in the year iS ( 1, at the time when it was determined to reduce tlie appointments of inspertinjj fiehl oHirers of militia, by whieh it was settled, that i.'',,0()o/. only should be devoted out of the 2(),iu){)/. whiih the Ionian States pay tor the military works; and that fnooo /. should be paid into the military chest for the general jiurpose of military ex|)endi- ture. 12 1.'. But the amount of 20,000/. would still be paid r-^ The amount of 20,000/. would still be paid, but 15,000/. only will be paid for the fortifications, instead of the 20,000/. which has hitherto been |)aid. I2l;J. What is the total of those payments ? — About 37,(i7t) /. 1214. Hut of this ;j7,ti7()/., supposing no new arranjfcment was entered into, the sum of 20,000 /. a year would ci'ase to be paid by the Ionian Islands so soon as the works at Corfu and Vido should be completed? — Yes. 1215. 'Ihis proposal of acceptin!» an annual sum of ;),<;, 000 /. for military pro- tection will therefore throw upon the British Government the res|)onsibility tor the reinj.inini! military expenditure, and will bring that expenditure tmder the annual control of Parliament, in the shape of estimate? -No doubt it will. 1 21(1. Any reduction which can therefore be efl'ected in that manner will be a reduction for the benefit ol the British (Jovernment, and not of the Ionian Govern- ment ? — Certainly. 1217. Under the existing arrangement, any reduction of the same sort would be for the benelil of the Ionian Parliament f — Ves, it wdulil. 121S. In wliat state is that arrangement at the present moment?— It is under the consideration of Lord Nugent, the Lord High Commissioner. 1219. The Committee are of course to understand that that arrangement cannot be carried into elVcct without the consent of the Ionian Parliament ?~No. The Ionian I'aiiiiinicnt is not at present assembled. 12JO. .And this would be for the first time an arrangement mad(! in pursuance ot the Treaty of Paris for a stipulated amount of payment on the |)art of the Ionian Islands towards military protect i« deemed ex|)edient?--Thv.'fu ii n j provision which prescrilws the numher of iiritish tniops ex, to he emp'i -eil. 1 3.3 J. Yn hav! stated there is a dis<;repiincy hctween the Italian and the ^ WHS 1 e original chart ; in what lan};uafj;e was it, Italian or Knglish ? . Italian. English ; W — It was Irawi. It 1233. You stale there is a discrepancy hetwcen the Italian oriffinul and the En>;lish tr.uislH»'i omitted in the Kn)»li»h? — Yes. 1235. Ila.-, that omission ever been stated to Parliament 'f — I am not aware that it has. I U36. Is Parliament cognizant of any other than the English copy of that Treaty? — I do not know. 1237. Is not that Enj^lish copy the one that is acted upon by the House r -No doubt it is. IJ3S. And, thoredbre, as to any words which may be supposed to be omitted or altered between the translation and the ori;;inul, tllose are matters of which Par- liament have had no intimatir)n or conrnizance whatever? — The Enj^lish translation is that which is recognised by the (.'(.lonial Department. 1 2:Y). You have stated that the orifjinal estimate for the erecticm of the for- tresses was 172,000/. ; when the hmian (Joverninent took this char^e upon them- selves, did they not take the whole churne of erecting the fortresses upon them- selves? — They only voted 164,000/. 1340. Hut then their agreement was, taking into consideration the estimate which was delivered to them, to undertake the whoU; ex|)ense oferectins; those works, was it not?— No, I only understand that they took upon themselves to defray charges to the amount of i()4,()()o/. 1241. Supposing that estimate to have l)een correct of 172,000/., would they have thought themselves justified in calling im the British (iovernmcnt to furnish \n any way whatever, either in money or in kind, towards the erection of those works ?— No, they acquiesced in the payment of iti4,0()() /. 1242. Have not Hritisli soldiers been employed to a great extent, exclusive of the sappers and miners, in the construction of those works? — Yes, it was part of the original understanding that they should be so employed. 1243. What, with the Ionian Government? — Yes; it would have been impos- sible to com|)lete the works within any reasonable time unless it had been so understood. 1244. Those soldiers are paid for their work i"— Yes, they are paid for their work, and paid out of the fortification money. 124.5. 1 he payment made out of the fortification money is the additional pay which the soldiers receive in return for their working on the fatigue duty?— Yes, it is pay for I'atigue duty. 124(1. Hut the soldiers, while employed at these works, were of course durin<» that time inetlieient for garrison duty, \\ ere they not? — I'hey could not be em- ployed in two places certainly at thesame time. i-'47. Hut they were receiving during the whole of that time their pay as sol- diers in the Hritisli army, were they not?- ^' i„, 1 ai)|)rebend so. 1 24S. May not that, tlierelore, be considered as so much money added to the charge for the fortresses ?— It is an additional item of expcn-e, but the fortilieations could not be raised without the labour of some men. 1240. Have you any statement in your office of the number of Hritish soldiers so employed in these works, and the length of lime they were emploveil :— I should relet to the Onlnanee lor that itdbrmation. 1 2-,o. Have you any calculation as to the length of time that would be required to complete the fortifications?— Sir .John Jones in the course of last year stated, in a nieniorandum which he gave m, that they would pniliaiily be completed in two or three years, but that was not to be taken as a decisive opinicm. 12,'-,1. When was that? In the eark part of last year. 1252. Is there any provision in the Ionian chart for varying the arrangement K 4 respecting 72 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE liohl. H 1 W ftl '''}^-S:^S'.^^'-y-^-'^--^-^^ ^oes not see. ih. the. .. and I .„ efticient for other duty P-No all that I mZ? / <-'-'rtain degree rendered in- the same time be emj^Ioyed on^nl o ,er du v at"tS ''"'' '^''' '^'^ '^^^^^ ""' ^^ 1254. IJas it ever been reprcsentirto d^Al f??^^'" "^^^^^ numberof troops was required for the se vice of H,A"'"' ^^?^' l^'^' «" '"'^'•e'^sed Of the^men bei„,emp,oy\i tor thetn=iot I'rtt^^^^^^ tor the year 1832. ^°"'"" ^''''"'^^ amounts to?--£. ,40,000. ^^irL'^Z'SsllT^^^^^^^^ and 1 257. Can you state to the Comm.fl!! ) I °''" ^''^ "''^ '^''"^^ '^^''^s- of Sir I->edericlAdan ?-^/Lv^To rj^^^^^^ "/«''»«■ '" the tin.e U is very nearly that which before tlier?;"' ^''^f'^ ^^am exactly, but Frederick himself and his Lcs-de^ILm^^^ < omm.ttee. ,v:th the exception of Sir .ha;^i^;:c;^c:,^Sri'x;"tK'^;i ^t 't-'^ ''- "--- ^'- -" sent Lord High Com„.issioner is a cSn'p-^J^^tr' "'"" '"'^'""'^'' ^^ ^''^ ^^^^- '2,59. 1 here is otic military officer Ipsa <,f fk nncj of .he s.u.i ,!,„„, i„ .heiS/p-TlltAr'llrr;',"' '?' '"« r""""" m.Je ,„,ljc me,licaU,.,r since Si, F. Ada„ • .""^.^e ""' '""" '^'""S'' '"" '"«■■" n.=npf ;l:-1.„^^^^^^^^^ -'» . ,-.a,e see..,, . „i,., -ith the allowances belo.l n" to U e a.toin J;?,/'"'"""^"^""^'^''' °" ^'"-^ «'''»"• altogether. '^ ." *" 81'P0'»"uent, amountmg to about 1,700/ value „ll,i, stafla|,i,oi,!t,n™r " "'"'' ' ""•■'""""■■ =«timali„» ,|,e -i-tt*;;;" r ""■■ "■"'"■■"•""^ "°" -■-»' ">■ "- i-i Hi^i, to™.issi„„e,= He..... ;!'^;^C:^:>-,^;|;.- tec, „,,,,, »'. '- '.0 „e._ I2t)(j. In the pavot Maior-.'tneral Sir Al/.v.n,l,.. u- 1/ . ■ sides iiis start-pav as a mai ,r cT™ V ^^''^".''"^'^''^ ^^ "odtord, it appears that, be- iron. t!>c c<.loLl L"lsT?Zl r\n''''r '"' """"""^•<^ of' ,',000/. a ear any future appoi„tn>cnt oh le 2'lrt ^-NiriT f "I ""r"'"'^'^ '" '''^' '^-^ »»■ '27U. There appears here a Tim f , ,7''/ ""'''-■'■;.'''"d "ot. ...ajor-general ; c'm you cxpl „ ,. ." ^on^, f '11 ':'"'"" '" '''^ ^"'-^^y «»" ''- paper:— That is his propLil <^- Xv n , " "'"""?' "''P"'^'"- '" ^his s.onerduHng the absent oltheToH\^;;5:^;^^ I^ord High (;„„.„... le.sra;pll'::ft:^l:^t^.,;;;;;,;i^--t 1-l-iy. peaking. i„ this account. .. is an ac.-ide„tal circu-nst^m^.;,";'.!" "h", ' '^' "'"J"^-«-"-^a' •— % no means ; it proposal of that lun.l has c .V i.-, ' , 't''"'^- "'^' 'r^^"' '""''"^v staff ^ -A to Ills .p.ittin.^ the Inninn (,, .• m , r \ '"'""'•. '^''" ^''''^''''^ ^'f»'»- P^-r -uch .liscussinn on thi. .na,te;™^.::';;;r„;" ;t "'"""• "I'l"^ "!"^ '""^ "-.ivcd .onsiderable change. i„ the Inih^;" exit.lftlir""" "'^ "''"'"'^ I27,j. Can ^l^^. PUTTEE is. and I am ruction of the rendered in- could not at t. in increased consequence I it certainly iture of this -£. 140,000. inaries and s. 'in the time exactly, but ition of Sir !nt time and as the pre- lie perform - ;e has been , a military ' a military no private He has no received in inissioner .- 1 the staff; ut 1,700/. as well as > iual stuff tiatinL' tile iiissioner.' e not .' — that, be- /. n year i ca.se of y of the in this ."omnii>«- ount, ;it :uns ; ii in or l)v dr.- -A 11, prior lal time luclions ON MILITAllV ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 73 1273. Can you state, with reference to the military staff, wiiat those reductions u^, «. « 1. ^ere proposed to be ; first. Sir Frederick Adam's, ani^l next, Lord Nu'e.uV-Sir ^jj^lf^!:^- f,lh,tnn7t "f ^'T'^"^ *° reduce the deputy quartermaster-^eneraC the deputy « May ,834. adjutan -general, and to regulate the military slaS'. But thai was not bv anv means the extent of the proposed reduction on his part, because he recommended that the commissariat should be entirely mai^aged by the Ionian Islands 1274. Now state what was the recommendation with regard to the military staff which h.s been made by Lord Nugent?- Lord Nugent recommended an asTistant military secretary, one barrack-master, instea.l of the deputy quartermaster-sene- ral and the abolition of the situation of deputy adjutanlgeVral. fS propo^^^^^ medical stafi is much the same as Sir F. Adam's, in point oi expense ^^ 1275. Has any communication taken place in consequence of those proposals of Lord Nugent between the Colonial Office and the Horse Guards ?-A communU Sved' tm'ttnce " """"'^ "''"' ''^ ""J'^^^' ''"' «" ^"^^^ *>- I-" 1276. Did the Horse Guards state the ground upon which they thought that IftS- T"/V^"n-'K "'f- °"'«"»t contemplaLd, could not i carfed nto effect r-1 he reduction of the adjutant-general was specially objected to. upon "he ground that there was a vast deal of correspondence, mving to the extenve nature o the command, and the way in which the troops were sf atterecl S there ws ^c deputy judge-advocate, and therefoie the courts-martial duty fell heavy upon the ofhcer who held the situation of deputy adjutant-general; that a ItrYals for crimes and misdemeanours of which the military' are guilty are Irtl by r^il tary aw ,n the Ionian Islands ; and that it would therefore be scarcely po sibK S HnVl'r.^^'i" ^'"" '/''^^"'"^"'er. in consequence of the objection taken by the Hor.e Guards, any de iintive measure has been adopted on the part of the Colonial ^tr'^^'^'S;''""'" "f^"''"""^*'^'-' --^^"'^ "* *""^'he>- refe^rence ton,elonrn Islands as uell as (,t being understood that this Committee were about to assemble) to learn the opinion which might be entertained upon those suTjlcts 1278. Was it also thought desirable to postpone any alteration in the staff until an arrangement shoul.l have been made by which the expense of that st ff, to"e Je :1u:^^J::!T' ^""'^"^^^' '^°"'^' '- ^""^^^ -- ^'^^ revenue; VS ance Sa":^ tEl -s ^0^^!^^''''''' '"'' ""^' •^'"'"""•^- ^' >"'-- 1280 Are the ganiens attached to the palace kept up at his expense ?-There his o,::l::;en:e!" """""""^ '"'•"• ""' ''^"^^'"^ ' ^"'p^^'-' "'^'>' «- ^«p^ "p't .Ji'nk ^^'f ""* "m "I'P"^'"''"" ■"'«•- I'y J^ord N"J^^"t, and refused by the Colo- mal Ol^ce. for an allowance upon that very score ?-As far as I recollect Lord Nugen applied for certain allowances, to w'hlch he conceived himself enti\d., hey {Td's^uS^tv^^r'^^ '• ^'"•" *^°"' "^'^« "" ''' ''^''- ^-'^ "••'^"-'^» ^ 12S2. Are you of opinion that any reduction in the amount ui the Lord Hi.-Ji Co„.m.ss,o„er's salary couhl be effected ?-^-l)o you mean as to whethe is n.y opinion or whether I have any ilata to go upon, in answering the question ' ^ i->8;}. 'iour opinion .--I should think none whatever: he has a arge palace to keep up, and a great number of persons to entertain. ' vn.'.'l^" "TI -T ""^ ''""^ '",' '''"'' "■■ '•' '' '"^'^^''y >""'■ i'Hiivi.lual opinion ? Do you know what the repairs of that palace are ?-I,lo not know. 1 2^.'5 IhtM. you can only state it merely as matter of opinion? -I conclude that la l;tou"" '■'■''""" " '^"'" •'?"' "'■ ''.^''^"'S'-' - .Ureat deal of attendance. A large bouse is more expensive to keep up than a small one. IJM.. Have you the means of furnishing the Committee with the present dis- tribution of lorce in the Ionian Islands^— I have ' dl '.;!?;: .^l^It'llie^liiT"' -"^■«'-/'"'-J-Just give the Committee the total Ail terent islands — Corfu, !.'>i4 , Vu... I'ra, 1.';,; lephaloni.!, ;5t)7 ; Zante, J04 ; Ithaca and Cal r iiXO, L> Saiita milking altosiether a total (if ■2,()H amos, 50 ; ( ermo, (17 ,J. Can 12SS. Did Lord Nugent make any proposition with regard to tl he eoinmissarial ?— Lord Nugent reverted o.i";. le reduclion of to an original ^clleme ol Sir Irederick Adi .III s Hoh. 74 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Rc H. W. H ay, Esq. Adiim's, which was to that eflect, but Sir Frederick Adam abandoned that in the ■ jBCoikI proposition. i May 18,34. 1289. What was his proposition r— His proposition was to place it in the hands ot the Ionian Government; to do away the commissariat altotfether 1290. Was that proposal submitted to the Treasury, and was" any objection taken to it.— I am not aware that it was done in an official form, but the v were sounded upon it. •' 1291. Tile commissariat expense is not borne by the Ionian Islands ?~No 1 292. 1 he whole of tiie commissariat expense is borne by this country .?— Y?s 1293. The view which the Treasury took of the proposed arrangement of Sir Irederick Adam, was with reference to the actual force in the colonies, as you have stated it at present to be .^— There was very nearly the same force in i8u a« in 1834 ^ ..< J a^ 1294. Therefore, if it was found practicable to reduce the j^arrisons in the dilFer- ent islands, that objection on the part of the Treasury would no longer hold .'ood as tar as that reduction went?-! apprehend the objection would hold eood wliat- ever tae amount of force might be. It is an objection to the principle of trusting the provisioning ot British troops to those who are not under the immediate con- trol ol the British Ciovernment. 1295. The question is not with reference to doing away the commissariat alto- gether, but merely reducing the amount in proportion to the reduction of troops which would be ettcctedr— That of course the TiLasury would not object to, though it might not be practicable to reduce the number of commissariat officers in propor- tion to the diminished numbers of the troops employed. Colonel A. Maherly, a -Member of the House, called in ; and Examined. C ol. A. Mabed y. 1 296. YOU are Clerk of the Ordnance Office ?— Yes. 1 297. What was the original estimate for the fortifications at Vido, and the works geneniUy at Corfu:— The estimate arranged by a committee of engineer officers who went out in 1824, was 182,000/. That estimate was sanctioned and ordered to be carried into execution, in |S2,';, by the Duke of Wellington when Master-general of the (.>nliKince, of course after consultation with the (iovenimcnt. 1298. Can you state what were the works to be prepared or fortified for that?— Island of Vido £ 53 000 Salvador Heights - _ - Putting existing defences into an efficient state Casematcd Barracks - - . - Bomb-proof Hospital .... Exfiense .Magazine . - . . Contingencies - ... 25,000 5a,050 30,000 12,000 5,000 5,000 £. 1182,050 \\ The total is iSj,ooo. There wr p error in ca.sting the totals, and the Ionian Government supposed they were nly to give 172,000/. instead of 182,000/.; but this was subsequently set right in consequence of the correspondence being looked into by Sir .lames Kemp, the Aiaster-general of the Ordnance. In 1831'^ there was a communication between the Master-iieiieral and Sir Frederick Adam, when the estimate was lurlher increased. The plan sanctioned was 227,000/,, being ti.j.ou.i /. more ibaii whs contemplated by the Iimian Government in 1825. 1299. Are the total sums slated by you to "be defrayed out of the Ionian reve- nues, or any |)art of it by this country r— Entirely out of the Ionian revenues; so much so, that we have never taken a" single vote for these works, always excepting, I .should say, the engineers, whom you must have there whether you carried cm thc^e works or tint. 1.300. Their pay being, in tact, no additional expense to tliis country r— Yes, the engineers are charged (Hi llic military e^tahlislusiciu of this country, «ii!i the excep- tion of tud of the officers who were sent out expressly at the de^i.e of Sir Fre- derick .Adam to acccli'iate the coiiMriiction of tlie works- 1 !oi. In addition to the si ;834. hat t . iron " I'-^bormus-return to make out.' There is not the lea t doub hp .i ?" "T TP'"r'* *° '^ veryjrreat extent. I think, in lookin. o!er o ti." hi T'J"^' ^ T 'V' ^'^"^S'^^ f"-- ^ "'°"t'' for vvorkinCay 1303. Tliat is working-pay in addition to the regular pay -—It is J 304- But to have an accurate idea of the expense ot' the fortifications men foned, must we not take into account the re.uiar'pay of the .oldirSid? he" vL' rece.vmg winle employed on fatigue duty r-I should say not. Jt is on v the o dT nary garrison who furnish detachments for the service, and if thev but not been employed upon this service they would have remained idle in their'barracks 130,5. Then the Committee are to understand that if they had not been so employed, the garrison duty would have been very ligh., woul it ot : I .,m uot able to speak to that point. I know nothing^of 'th .serv e of d e7on a^ Islands, and therefore cannot speak to the garrison"det«il. The engineer officers on the spot are not accountants; they send us in returns of X las been expended, as far as they are able to furnish them, but they have no 1 means o giving accurate returns ; and accordingly I have invaibly re ecU account of expemliture received from them, as I lu've alwavs found them imKcuate and sum "1!^'' II " '"' / "'"';^ ^» '"vestigafe then.. The only corr " a uT tie Mm acfually pai.l in the clerk of the Ordnance's oflice (which is the office of b n"ri lo;") iP' r '•'''' '""•'^ f ''"^ department) on ihose bills ^.ich ha e offi r I I' *n°'" "■'"■■'' ""^y '"^' P'^^^*--'* i"t" t»'e clerk of the Ordnance's office, to be final y paid upon orders of the lioard. Takin. thrLcount Jmm S^^sSt'-s'^'^f '" '•""' -p--p-^"y ■..yoffice^oX"j;:rDe;r hut si J'.'^' '"'"' ^'f ■"'It*' t"^i"S how much ?_The total estimate is 227.000/ but then this IS made up to a very late period, and thi.s may have 10 be reduced when we come hnally to examine the account ^ ' I3«»7. I)<> you su,.pose that the sum of 227,000/. would be found sufficient to defray al t he expenses of completing the works ?-It may cost . O.oou /. or , V 000 / more, but that wouul be the outside of the excess . «■ or i,„ooo I. ole'ted ?■ Fronl" "''ir P'""7' '■^'''"' '""y '^ ^' "^1'-''''' t''"t "'*'V "ill be com- Vi,V^?" .i''T '"■' '"*"'■''-'"' '""•nu-ks, are there not, in the custle of Corfu an^"'^-"t« on the coast ':~\ should say the same system n.ig ht be a tended with advantage in regard to Sierra U„ne, provided a proper inode could he found ot providing for the safety of the liberatcvl Africans, who are located there, as the Committee are probahly aware, in very large numbers. 13^5. Do you know what was the amount of force kept fur the i.rotection of uuw S' 1 '",7""!\';"l"--'^ transfer:-! should apprehend not more than a com pany ot the Koyul Aliican corps. 1 3 -Ml. To each fort ? The lo.ts are three in number ; Cape ( oast Castle Accra and Ai.munaboe. but Cape Coast Casde is th.. mo,t unport'ant ; the smal m on « are hardly kept up m any degr.e of iniiilarydrlrnre. 'uon.h I3^7. "j'""s the whole amount of tura. maintained (or the protection of these seUlementsr-Jheaniount of fWce has varied, and I will emleavour to explai;. tlie causes of iiu u!i ti..i> t\.. .1.., /■ ./•... . . . (' ' "• the causes of its variati!)!!. (.>•: •!:.•> the (iold Coast fi< ■om the UK I (Mil ovcmment urX issing nargc ot tiio ioiis 011 or .-joo men. Shortly after tullovMid the di,ust [ , the iiumlKr ui tronps did not exceed 400 which SirCliarles M't rods war with the .\shttntees, III • rthy (ell, and ihe Afri(iUi <-,,r|i« \\n< iuiinedi uely raised to 1,000 men. -The ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 77 1,000 men, ten companies ; it continued at that rate for three or four years, and R. fV, Han, £«^ was tlien reduced to 800. When the forts on tiie Gold Coast were given up, — a diminution immediately took place, and the African corps was reduced to four 6 May 1834. companies. 1328. Do you recollect in what year?— In the year 1829. They have since been reduced to two companies, in the year 1 830. On the occasion of the war in the Gambia with the people of Barra in 1831, it became necessary to increase the force again, and in 1833 they were restored to four companies, at which they now stand. In -addition to these there are two detachments from the 1st West India regiment, Wiio recruit on that coast. 1329. Have you, from any information which the Colonial Office possesses of the state of things on the Western Coast of Africa, any re.nson to suppose that the present force may require to be increased ?— I should apprehend the present force will scarcely be adequate to the demands of the service on that coast. The latest accounts which have been received from that quarter rather indicate a chance of re lowed hostilities in the neighbourhood of Bathurst, on the part of the king of Barrd. 1330. Have we any troops or military establishment at Fernando Po ?— There was a small detachment of the Royal African corps there, w hich has been sent hack to Siena Leone, and the orders for evacuating the island went out in August 1 832. 1331. The orders for abandoning it? — For abandoning it. 133-: You have stated that it is necessary to keep up a certain force at Sierra Leone, on account of the large numbers of liberated Africans which are located in that neiglibourhood ? — Yes. 1333- 'I'>s any project been entertained of locating any of the liberated Africans en any o»'.ir p&rt of the coast? — Partly with a view to relieve the settlement from the great /mmber of liberated Africans at Sierra Leone, and partly with the hope .hat a settieinent in the higher parts of the Gambia might assist our gum trade in that quarter, and tend to civilize the natives in that direction, a detachment of liberated Africiins has been sent to the Gambia. And it is intended to locate them >•; M'Ci.rtliy's Island, and eventually, should the scheme succeed, on Deer Island, which is not very distant ; and, in siiort, to extend the location of liberated Africans as far as circumstances uill |)ermit on the Gambia. '334- When was this new project of location first carried into execution? — The project was first c^ntertuined in 1830, and it has not been fully carried into execu- tion in consequence of some difticulty in settling the points to which the individuals should be sent, a^id some questions relating to the expense of the undertaking, which have not been decided. '33,5- Should you be enabled to carry tiiis to a further extent, would it not have the effect of rendering a less force requisite at Sierra Leone? — I should apprehend not, unless it be carried to r. considerable extent, because it will always be necessary (for in answering tiiis question I nnist take Sierra Leone and the Gambia as one government) to have a sutticient force in proportion to the numbers of liie liberated Africans at Sierra Leone. 133(>. Would that not rather lead toa.i increase of ex(M;nse? — It certainly would in the outset; but if no considcralile increase be made to the number of liberated Ahicaiis by fresh importations, and still more, if any can be induced to remove from thence to the (iambia, it is to be expected that a smaller number of troops will only ultimately be required. ' 337- ^ "n I'i've in view the greater security to Sierra Leone, as well as an ulti- nmte saving of expense in that project?- I urn not aware that tliere is any appre- hension entertauied with rogiuil to the safety of the libeniteil Africans in Sierra Leone, but there is a great question, whether any additional numbers to any extent could be placed there without inconvenience, owing to the waste lands having been already occupied liy tliose who lm\e Ikh-u locatiil there; their numbers are consi- derable, about 2f>,(0u. Tlu; average number ol slaves adjudiciilcd has varied from 2,()U(i to 4,000 annually. It must be easily seen, tlieielore, that if tiiis increa.se goes on in anything like the same ratio, the time must come when the numbers will be too great for the island on wliich they are at present located. 1338. Is Sierra Leone an island ? - It is as nearly so as possible. There is vmiiii mils ill). it n L'alied a p(•lll^^ula, leriiaps, mure correctly. 13311. What is (hi Royal African corps composed of: — The Royal .African corps was originally composed in pail of condemned soldiers ; that systeni \n\s been altogether ahaiuloned, and they arc now chictly taken from the liberated Africans. •340. By O.2.- 1- 3 jj (i May 1834. I \Ui I 78 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE II. W. tiai/, Eiq. 1340. By voluntary enlistments, or compulsory service ? — By voluntary enlist- ments ; the same process is resorted to as in the case of enlisting other troops. 1341. Of what description are tlie officers? — The officers are Europeans; there is one black officer, the assistant-surficon of tlie corps. 1^42. Is there any difficulty in officerinc» this corps with Europeans? — I believe not ; but upon this sulyect I must refer the Committee to the Horse Guards for in- formation; but I believe that at one time it was projected to appoint men of colour. 1343. Have you reason to think that fit persons of that description could be found? — I sliouid doubt it extremely, for the [jrojcct at one time was entertained of selecting men of colour for the civil service ; an inquiry then was made as to the number of individuals who could be selected witli advantage; tlie result was not satisfactory. It has not been found practicable, therefore, to put that scheme into execution. One of the chief reasons was, the hope that the men of colour would stand tlie climate better than Europeans, whom it was difficult to send out with sufficient rapidity. 1344. It has then been found difficult to make an adequate supj)ly of tit persons for the public service on t!ie we-tern coast? — I should be inclined to say tlial there are at all times candidates for employment in all part.s of the world, however unpromising, but owing to the unliealthincss of the climate on the coast of Africa, and the frequency of deaths, the public service in Sierra Leone has, at times, fallen into arrear, and the public accounts into a state of derangement, from which it has been extremely difficult to extricate them. 134.';. Is the pay of officers of the lloyal African corps the same as that of officers of the line- — Yes, it is the same. i34t"». Is the pav of the men the sameT^The pay of the men is the same. 1347. And the rations?— Their rations are the same. It was proposed to make an alteration in the rations of the men, and a good deal of inquiry was made on the subject, but ("olonel I'indlay, who was then in command of the corps, as well as at the liead of the government, gave such strong reasons against the adoption of the scheme, that it was abandoned at that time. He is now in this country, and can exphiin in his own person the reasons wliicli weighed with him. 1348. Is there any other force permanently employed in these settlements? — The only additional force of which I am aware, is the two detaciunents of the West India regiments, which I have already alluded to. 1340. Any militia? — A militia was embodied in 1831, in consequence of instruc- tions from home. The ex[)criment has hardly as yet had a fair trial, but it is right to say, on the only occasion when the services of the militia has been required (which was in the case of the attack upon the settlement at Bathurst, by the king of Barra), thev volunteered uith great zeal, and beliaved sutliciently well. i3,'',o. How was that militia composed r ■ For tlie iletails I should refer the Com- mittee to Colonel Findlay. I take it for granted that iIk- minor ranks of the civil service, and the vcamg men employe ; m the merchants' establishments, were the chief persons enrolled. 1 3-, I. Was it takdi from tlie lihi aled AlVieansr — iiy no means. They were taken chieflv from the iisidentr. tiiere; there might be individuals, liberated Africans, who were siifficientlv at their ease and leisiiri; to undertake such duty. 13.52. (.'an you state the nunilier of them ' — I do not know, for the returns have not been regularly sent to the Colonial Department. r^',:]. .Vie then; not a good many mililarv jien^ioners established at Sierra Leone? — \'es. there is a large number, wliosi: services were considered likely to be useful as non-eommissioned otfie( rs, for the organizing of ilii> militia ; but in general they are (lersons of a very idle and dissolute life, and turn to very little account, I am afraid. I3i4. They have been turned to v'-ry little account- — They have not been found of nuicli use, I believe. 13,'),'). Do you conceive that any improvement of this niilitiu torcc would super- sede the necessity of keeping up the extent of the military establishment that is now there ? — I should be utraid not, to any very great extent, considering how small a force is generally placed on that coast. I'jr.f,^ Who is tlie present iinvrrnor i>f Sierra I.i'oiii' - Mr. Temple. '3.'>7- l** 'ic a military man? — He is a retired officer, a major in tiie army. 13.')8. Have not the governors generally been military, appointed from home? —For the most part ; he is the first civilian afipoimed of late years. 13/59. Could you state how many governors have been appointed since the settlements ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 79 king settlements were pliiccd on their present looting?— I have a memorandum here R. W. Hay Era. before njc wiiich viil enahic me to state that. 1300. State the late ot each appointment and the eause of their removal, whe- ^ *^*y '834. ther hy death or retirement, so far as yon know ? -Sir Charles M'Carthy was tht first that comes wUliin the period descrihed hythe Committee ; in February 1816 he was appointed ; he was killed in action with the Ashanteos, in 1824. To'liim suc- ceeded Major-u'jiieral Turner, who was appointed in October 1824 ; he went out in 1825. and died in l82(); his death may be entirely attributed to his exertion in attemjjting to put down the slave trade on that coast. The next apnointment was Major-general Sir Neil Campbell, which look place in June 1826; I believe his health was perfectly good at the time he went out, but he died in tlie year follow- ing, aa it was supposed o«ing to anxiety in the discharge of his duties in such a climate. The next otlicer appointed was Lieutenant-colonel Denham, on which occasion it was determined that the original nature of the appointment should be altered, and that the oflicer at the head of tlie government should be a Lieutenant- governor only, with a diminished salary. He was appointed in December 1827; before that time he had filled, with nruch ability, the office of superintendant of the liberated Africans. Lieutenant-colonel nenham died from the eH'ects of the climate in 182S. I may state, at tlie same time, that having gone tliromdi a great deal in the course of his travels in the interior of Africa, his death mai^s more i)articiilar!y the pestilential nature of the climate of Sierra Leone. The officer who succeeded then to the govermnent was Major Ilicketts, whose health broke down, and he was obliged to come home, after having discharged the functions of lientenant-governor for month-; this took place in 1829. Lieutenant colonel I'indlay, who was at that time in charge of the settlements at the Gambia, anil who had been there for many years, was then appointed lieutenant-governor of Sierra Leone in February 1830. Colonel Findlay's health seemed to require a return to this country after a long and ariluous service on the western coast of Africa, and Mr. Temple was appointed in June 1833, and went out as soon as he conveniently could after his appointment. 1361. He was a civilian?— He was a retired miijor in the army, and with him I believe that the list closes, which the Comnnttee have asked for, of the governors who have held the command in Sierra Leone since the present esta- blishment of the settlements. 13C2. You have stated that on the appointment of Lieutenant-colonel Denham, a reduction took place in the salary of the jiovernor ? — Yes. 1303. It appears to be at present 2,000/. a year? — It is so. 13()4. Will you state what it was previous to that time?— Sir Charles M'Carthy enjoyed a salary of 2,000/. a year, with a table allowance of 1,000/.; Major- general Turner had a salary of 2, -,00 /., a table allowance of 1,000/., with the statl-pay and allowances of a inaj(jr-general, besides his pay and emoluments as colonel of the African corps ; Major-general Sir Neil Cam()bell had the same, making in all upviards of f„ooo /. a year; but they were cajnains-general and govcrnors-in-ehief of the whole of the .settlements on that coast. When the reduction took place, tlie nature of the connnisjion was altered, and Lientenanl- coidiiel Drniiam received only 2,.'5no /. uithout miy allonances for tnlile money, which his predecessors had enjoyed ; Major Rickeits enjoyed the same as acting governor, but on the appointment of Colonel I'indlay it "was still further reduced ; that was in February 1830; it was then reduced to 2.(100/., and Still remains so. 13(),-,. Then there is no ditference in the a|)p(.intment, whether the novirnor be a civilian or a military ofHcer? None at present. i3tit). You have stati il that the pay of the black troo|)S is equal to that of the other regiments in the IJritish army ? — Yes. I3t)7. Could not Africans be induced to enlist for a lower rate of |)ay, do you tliink ?- Upon that point I should beg to refer the Coumiittee to Colonel Findlay. 1368. You have .stated that we might disembarrass ourselves altogether of the island of Sierra Leone, if means were found for protecting the liberated Africans? — I have always understood, if means could have been fouml for insuring a proper protection to the Alricans, or the disposal of thi'm in other quarters, that the project would liave been entertained of making tiie same sort of proposition to the merenants of Sierra Leone as had been made to those who traded to the Gold Coast. I3ti}). Has not that arrangement which has been made with traders to the Gold L 4 Coast il i- m 80 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE X. W. Hay, Esq. Coast l)een found to answer, luid imve tliey not founti tlie means of protectini; 6 May 18)4 themselves, without being u cl)urf;e to the Biitisli Government ? — I beg leave to " ■ ol)seive, that a very large charge is incurred ; 3,500 /. u year is paid hy a Parlia- mentary vote for the maintenance of the forts on the Gold Coast. 1370. Well, then, how does it cost 3.r>oo /. a year? — An annual vote has been taken for that purpose since the year 1828; in the first instance the vote was 4,000 /. u year. It has subsequently bicn reduced to 3,500 /. The council of merchants, with a president at their head, rcpuit to a committee trading to the Gold Coast, and resident in tiiis country, anil that conuiiittee lay then- report before the Secretary of Stale yearly, and explain to him the details of their expenditure. 1371. Has that arrangement caused a reduction of expense to this country? — The original arrangement could not have been kept up ; or at least the forts could not have been repaired without a very large expenditure. 1372. Larger than what is now actually incurred ?-r Very considerably, as the Conmiittec will perceive on the inspection of the abstract of Captain liotelerV Report, which I will give in. The sum estimated to be necessary for repairing the forts of Capo Coast Castle and Accra amounted to 1 5,551) /. for Cape Coast Castle, and 47,()37 /. for Accra. At the same time I must observe, the forts are not at present in a state to withstand an enemy, excepting the tribes in the neigh- bourhood by which it may be assailed. '373- It "iJ could make an arrangement with the territories at Sierra Leone, of a nature similar to that which was niade with those on the Gold Coast, would not that in all probability be attended with a diminution of expense to this country ? — I should think it would, but the merchants would not undertake, it is presumed, to have charge of the large body of Africans who are located in the neighbourhood of the town, nor w ould it be expedient to entrust to them such power. •374- Is not Sierra Leone, from its natural position, easily defensible, being a peninsula ? — The creek is a very narrow one ; I should imagine that it was liable to incursions from the neijihbonrin" tribes. '37.')- 10" have stated that upon a coniparatively recent occasion the militia w ere found to act w itii elhciency against the incursions of the natives ; when you come to take into consideration what is the state and the nature of the force likely to assail that colony, would it not be very easy to organize the militia in such a manner as to devolve upon them entirely the defence of tiie colony ? — I should think it would be impossible, for the greater part of those employed are persons engaged in trade, who may readily unilertake an ex|)edition on the spur of the moment, when the enemy was at the gate, as they were in the case of the Barra war, but a continued service of that sort would be totally impracticable. 1370. Notwithstanding the great sacritice of treasure and of life which has taken |)lace, in conse(iuence of our retaining possession of Sierra Leone, has it not iti a great degree fuileil of the object which was contemplated, and has not the kidnapping of liberated Africans taken |)iace to a very considerable extent? Certainly, a few cases have occurred. '377' ''^^^ y<»' aware that a long correspondence took place, in consequence of a statement made by Sir .John Jetfcott, in a charge delivered by him to the grand jury at Sierra Leone? — Ves, I am well aware of the circumstance. 1378. And although the facts stated by him were not perhaps fully borne out, does it not appear, on the investigation which took place, that kidnapping did prevail to a very considerable extent? — 1 cannot say it prevailed to a considerable extent, but tiiere liave been occasional instances of it. '379- I^ the territory of Sierra Leone fully, occupied by natives? — There seems to be a great doubt on that subject ; the representations made have been at variance ; it il'.'iKnds so much upon tiie opinions «iiich eacii governor may entertain a^ to the quantum of land which the liberated .Africans should enjoy. 1380. Is it capable of extension V — The liberated Africans cannot be located out of the peninsula. 1381. Is the settlement which is now being formed at Gambia more defensible than that at Sierra Leone H —The new .settlement is further inland, but it is to be seen hnw i.ir the tiei^^libuuriiig tribes may not be adverse to the unuertukiui'. • 1382. If the natives should prove iiostile, will not that cause a complete fnilurc ot the undertaking, or a great additional expense to defend the new colony :—A» far as it has iiitherto been ascertained, the natives have !iot shown any disposition tu ON MILITAUY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 8i to hostility, ami the new settlement is intended to be placed on an island, which will to a certain degree insure security. i.38,j. Is it an island on the coast or an island up the river?— An island ud the river, about 180 nnles up the river. ^ 1384. Will not such an island as that be very accessible bv the natives in their t?aTsub-^t' ""* ''^'''*"" """ °"^ apprehension has been entertained as yet on 138,5. How long was it after the formation of the colony at Sierra Leone before Me came into collision with the natives?-! am not aware that we have had anv very material collision with the natives at Sierra Leone. 1386. Would it not, be practicable to extend our territory at Sierra Leone in prcterencc to establishing a new colony?- That cannot be done without the consent ot the nnghbounng tribes. 1387. Will there be any difficulty in purchasing land from the neighbouring tubes r— I cannot say, as I am not aware that any overture of the kind has ever been made to them. ^ 1388. If it could be done, would it not be attended with less expense than the formation of a new colony m the Gambia ?~No doubt the formation of a new colony IS a ways attended with considerable expense, but there are collateral advan- tages which we have proposed in the establishment on the Gambii, namely the extension ol the gum trade, and the hope of introducing a more wholesome traffic into the interior ot the country than has |)revailed on the coast. 138;). Is not Fernando I'o considered more advantaseous, with a view to tiK> protection ot the liberated Africans to the impeding the slave trade, and al.o gcneial y, for the wcltare ot those who may be captured in the slave vessels, ti.an Sierra Leone .^-.As I have already stated, one of the great objects in this estab- lishment was, to save the liberated Africans the dangers by sickness in the passa.rc. on, Iha part o the coast to Sierra Leone. Their location at Fernando I'o mXt be atteiu ed with more or less advantage, supposing the means had been aftor.Fed us ot making the establishment there ; but that has not been the case. 1390. Are 3'on not aware it was stated by various witnesses, who were exa- niinecl betore a Com.niltee ot the House in the year 1830, to inquire into the situa- tion ot the colony ot Sierra Leone, that Fernando Po was more hfulthv than Sierra Ixone .--I have read that Report, and am therefore aware of the nature of the evidence. 1 3!l I • \yhy has Fernando I'o been abandoned ?- -The chief difficulty with re-ard to fernando I'o was, the impossibility of obtaining the consent of Spain. ^ I3!I2. Is Spain in the actual occupation of the island of Fernando I'o-'— I'er- tainly not. 13.1.5. Ilasit been witiiin the last half centurv actually in the occupation of fernando I or— I believe that length of time has elapsed since any Spanish reaular IJrce was established in the island. ^ ' ^ 1 3|)4. l||)on what ground then does the Spanish government claim the possession ot that.-— I pon the ground ot original possession, it having l)een ceded to tliem by a treaty with Portugal. 1 ,5;)j. Are you aware it »vas stated in evidence before a (\)nmiittee of the 1 louse m the year 1830, that a garrison of 100 men would be sufficient to protect Fernando ro.- — 1 do not remember the eircumsfance. 13!)''. Are you able to give the Committee any information relative to the new American colony ul Liberia?— I onlv know that which is open to all tlie world • 1 liave icixi certain reports Horn thence, but we have no direct communication with' ttiat settlement. 1397. Hut Irom the information you have received relative to Lil)eria, are vou able to state to the Committee uhetiier it is or not a government estai.lishment"^— 1 undeistuiui it has no connexion with the governmentOf the United States. i.;<)8. Are there any troops in the settlement ol Liberia .=— I liave no intormation upon that point; I presume they have a militia. I39(). As far as you are aware, there are no rcuular troops ?— As far as I am aware, there are no reunlar troops. I4<'<'. Have w any iioops on tiie west coast, except at Sierra Leone?— There are some at the (iauibia. I 4"i. How iimiiy are there at the Gambia >.—A company of the Royal African <.'i)(pS. "•'-'■'■ M 1402. Von //. IV. Urn/, Eiq. CMay 1834. I:„ I w 8a MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE il. IT. //ay, Eiq. 140a. You have stated that we have never come into collision with the natives at Sierra Leone? — Not seriously. « M«y 1834. 140;}. ThtMi what necessity has there heen for increasing the force from 250 rank and Hie, which iippeurs to be the number in i8ja, to 452 rank and tile in 1833? — I have stated that the cause was the Barra war, and that the two settlements being united, it is necessary that there should be a force at head-quarters at Sierra Leone to proceed to the point attacked, wherever that may be. 1404. In conjunciion with the War Office, and probably the Army Medical Board, would there be any difficulty in giving a return, stating, by years, the establishment which was sent out, the average ot effective and non-ertective in each year, the mortality in each year, and the number of njcn invalided in each year, specifying or dislinguisiiing the European from the black troops, and also thepro- portion of black and European, with a statement of the comparative health and mortality between the black and the European troops r— I apprehend there will be no ditlicully in procuring that up to a certain period ; within the last year or so there might be a ditlicully in obtaining it, but up to 1832 or 1833, perhaps in some cases it might be done. 1405. Are you aware thai there are a considerable number of black pensioners from the West India refjiment, located at Sierra Leone, or the coast of West Africa? — Yen, there are ; I have already stated so. 1406. Would there bo any difficulty in giving a return* of the number of black pensioners from the year 1816, up to the latest convenient period, stating the numbers in each year, the expense, and by what department they are paid? — I should apprehend there would he no difficulty in obtaining that. A commutation of their pensions was [)roposed at one time, and to a certain degree acted u[>on. 1407. Then will you be so good as give the Conunittee the extent to which that plan was carried into effect, what steps are taken to prove the identity of a pen- sioner, who being located from the seat of government, is not personally known to the Conunissariat Department who pay him? What proof you have of the identity of the man wliu is the pensioner, and whether you recollect any correspondence passing between the War Office and the Treasury, and the Colonial Department, upon that subject; it being presumed, that when a pensioner dies, another black relation or other person personates that individual ? — I am aware that such a cor- rcspoiidence took place ; I do not know tlic particular proofs wtiich are required by the Military Department upon that subject, but I certainly recollect that that was alleged to be a prevalent practice. Colonel Tindiay will be able to state • 'fhaps the process by which that idenlilication of the person is attempted. 1408. You stated that certain Einopean soldiers were sent to the Africi.n coast as condemned srjidiers, as a means of discipline, by punishing them in that mode instead of flogging ?— I understood it was a commutation of piinisiiuient. 1409. Could you, in conjunciion with the .Military Department, give to the Com»- mittee a brief statement of the origin of the system of this commuting punishment in the army for general service on the west coast of Africa; how far that was carried into effi ct ; how long the system was tried ; what was the result of that svstem, «ith any other informati(jn by which tiie object of the Conunittee may be fiiifilled, namely, of obtaining the best information on the wiiole system ? — No doubt I can procure that. 1410. With regard to the enlisting of blacks from the West Indi,i regiment, have ytui any intoruiation as to wiiethir that system answers as well as obtaining blacks ill the West Indies? — I never have heard that any difficulty existed as to obtaining sufficient numbers in Sierra Leone. 1411. You have heard no difference between the quality of blacks furnislied in the one jilace or in the otlar, in tii( ir subsequent conduct as soldiers? — 1 am not aware of any. 1412. From the information you have received, are you able to form any com- parison between tlie climates of Si'Tra Leone, Fernando l*o, and Cape Coast Castle, as to salubrity ? — That subject has not escu[)ed ihe notice of the Colonial Department, and I have various documents whicli I could produce upon the subject. .My own opinion is, tliat there is very little to choose in point of salubrity bet\\een the three. 141,1. Wiiicii would you prefer? — If 1 were to be condemned' to live in any, I should prefer the (iambia, certainly. 1414. And Fernando Fo rather than Cape Coast Castle ? — And Fernando Pa ratiier tiian Cape Coast Castle. ON MILITARY ESTABMSHMENTS IN THK COLONIES. Colonel Findlay, called in ; und Examined. Mil. YOU have been at Sierra Leone, have you not?— I have. 83 I4i<"). In what ca|)ucily were you there?— As Governor. 1417. Ilow Miuny ycurs were you there r— Upwards of "three. I4'8. From what period ?-l'rom the sGth of April .8jo to 7tli July .8qi of theL^pr ^"" "'°''' '" ""^ °'^" '"^"'"^ "'"" "' *^"'"'""'" '-^^ commander 1420 Do you llnnk it would be most expedirnt for the pood ^^ovcrnment of the colony,, hat the officer of governn.ent and comn.ander of theSroops sho,? I be un.te'i^ui 14JI. What was the efficient strength, rank and hie, at Sierra Leone, when you were there r--About 300. - 1432. .Ami were they (juartered at Freetown, or were they on the neck of the pemnsu a r--l he greater part of them at Fuetown. 1 found it ncccsaiy to send « detachment to Waterloo., our most distant village, on account of some disturb- ances among the libeiaied Africans. 143.3- If field-works were thrown up on the neck of that peninsula, could that access to the colony be easily defended by the garrison at its present strt...th.?- JNo; 1 do not think it would be sufficient. 1434. Would it not be sutlieient with Hie assistance of the militia ? -The militia 1.S all very well us such, lor IVeetown. but they are not to be depended upon to niaieh to any distance. ' 143,'-.; Are you supposing the case of a sudden attack or for permanent .lutv ?— 1 hey might probably be very useful to repel an eneinv who came to attack 'their babitalions, but I or any one else couUI not get the inilitiu willingly to leav.' their liomes. " ■' 143(1. N('t% act on permanent iluty?— Not to act on permanent duty 1437. How are the militia composed; arc they composed of the black free mhabilantsr— Yes. 1438. What are their n'imbers ?— Four hundred. '4j<)- \Miat, only 400 militia?-— No more. 1440. .Might they not be increased to a cjiisiderable amount ?— They mi^ht, but at a very great expense, and the revenue of the culonv is not able to afford "it.' 1441. What are their conditions of service ; they "receive no pay, do lliev ?— i hey do w hen calleil out. " ' ■/ J 144.'. Hut not at any other timer — Not at any other time, ' 'iiouuh blacks '44; are tin" . es; and the m re prineipallv oHitered bv the 1' e ...to young gemlemeii of the colony uropean res identa. 1444 Considering the .sort of enemy tliat they a effictiver- I should sav not re opj)osed to, are they not very year 1445. Are they frequently called out for exercise ?— About jo d 0.2-! H a 30 days in the 1446. Uut Colonel FimUaf. S M»y 1834. rv^ \^^ .0. IMAGE EVALUATI0»4 TEST TARGET (MT-3) 7 A y 1.0 I.I 11.25 6" ?.2 1.8 M. Iill.6 ^^ ^. '/ PnotDgraphic Sciences Corporation 33 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, NY. 14580 (716) 873-4503 V '^ O %^^ ^ \ '^\ "^A . ^J^ ^^ r^ (/j ^ I i M 84 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Colonel FindUy. 1446, 13ut in tlie event of its being found expedient to increase tliat militia, surely it would not be attended with any very heavy e::pense, would it' — Yes it 6 May 1834. would. ' 1447. How? — In pay and clothing. 1448. You have already stated that they only receive pay when they are called out : — I have ; but if the numbers were increased, when called out, of coarse the expense would be so likewise. 1449. Miglit not a gratuitous service be exacted from them, as far as refers to ordinary days of course ; might they not be considered in tho nature of volun- teers, as far as that goes ?— It is impossible that they could leave their homes, or lose 30 days' labour in the year; they are very poor persons; men that have been imported into the colony (liberated Africans)", without a single farthing, and they could not support their wives and families, if they had not pay when called out to serve on duty, 1450. Have they tho same |)ay as troo[)s of the line ^—Rather better. 1451. What is the amount of that pay?— The non-commissioned ofticers 2s. (id., •2 s. and 1 s. 6 d., and the privates 1 s. H.'ja. What is the pay of the regular black troops, a private soldier? — Accord- ing to the length of their service, 6 d. and 7 d. 1453. About half the pay of a European soldier? — The pay is the same; they have a ration in addition to that. M;)4- T'len they are as expensive, or nearly so, as tlie white troops would be? — They are exactly on tin same principle as the white troops. '4;).)- ^^'ould it not be practicable, do you think, to obtain the service of libe- rated Africans at a lower rate of pay ?— No, I do not think it possible. )45<^- Are the militia clothed at the public expense? — At the expense of the colonial revenue. 14.)"- How often have they new ^lothing ?— They have only had as yet one suit. I was the lirst that embodied them ; they have only had one suit for the iast tiiree years. 1458. Hut they arc maintained entirely at the expense of the colony ? — They arc. 14,5c). And you think the colonial revenues are not sufiicicntly large to justify an increase of that force ? — No, I should think not. 1 4()0. Do you consider that our territory of Sierra Leone is fully occupied by Africans ? — No, I think there is Sufficient ground for more. I4t)i. Can you state to wliat extent? — i cannot exactly. ]4(J2. Some tliousands? — Yes. 1463. Ten thousand? — I should think from /J.ooo to 10,000. 1464. Then upon what ground was tiie settlement at tlic Gambria lirst insti- tuted ; for what reason ?— The settlement of the Gambia was lirst estal)lisbcd to prevent the slave trade in the river tiainbia ; first as a military post; and when tiie islands of Goree and Senegal were given up to the French, the Britisii merciiants wlio were tradnig there went to the Gambia and established themselves. 14(),-,. But when they so did, it was without any expense to the mother coun- try ; was it not at their own risk and their own expense that the merchants first establisJK'd tlicnselves there ?— Of course. I4(:)ti. But the settlement which our Government have lately established is at the Government expense, is it not ?— The military works are, of course, at the expense of this country. " 14(7. .And the giurison? — And the garrison, of course. 1468. It has been stated, as one of the reasons why this colony was esta- blished, timt tlicre is hardly room to locate any more Africans at Sierni Leone, but you liave stated that there is abundant room for several thousands more; can you assign any other reasons for the establishment of the colony of the (iani- bia, any public grounds on whicli it should be established r-l do not know of any other grounds than for ccjunncrcial purposes anil supjiression of tiie slave trade. i4t)^). What is tiie amount of the garrison at the (Jambiar— One hundred and twenty at present. 147". In British tr(;j|is?~Xo, all black troojvs. 1.171. All' there any lield- works there ?— Then! is a battery and barracks, "hicii latter i>, inclosed witii a high htoiie wall. 1 47^- At no great expense ; the cost of erection /—It was a good deal of expense, at that time materials being very high. ® 1473. Coulii 4. ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES; 85 1473- Could you give any statement of what the expense was, or whereabouts? Color.el Finding. — I cannot at present. ■ 1474- Have you tlie means of furnishing the Committee with that information ? ^ ^'"^ '^34- — I am fearful not ; tlie barraci«s and all the works, I should think, cost about 25,000 /. or u|)wards. 1475. That was at the expense of the British Government, was it? — Yes. 147*1. Are you aware whether kidnapping liberated negroes goes on to any extent at the colony of Sierra Leone? — It did so. 1477' To a very considerable extent, did it not?— Very considerable indeed. 1478. Were you there at the time Sir John Jetfcott was there ? — I was. 1479. Are you acquainted with the charge which he made to the grand jury? — I have seen it. 1480. Many of the facts are substantially borne out, are not they, by the inquiry which took ()liicc afterwards ? — Perfectly so. 1481. And the result of the inquiry was to siiow that kidnapping did prevail to a very conside«ible extent ? — To a very great extent. 14S2. If the garrison was withdrawn from the Gamiiia, would not there be troops sufficient for the protection of Sierra Leone ? — Scarcely. 1483. Have you not generally been on good terms with the natives in the neigh- bourhood of Sierra Leone r — We have generally ; but the measures which were adopted to prevent kidnapping the liberated Africans caused some discontent among the princes in the neigiibourhooti, and when I left they were threatening the colony. 1484. They are a set of mere barbarians, are they not; the native tribes? — Perfect savages, many of them. 1485. How are they armed, generally speaking? — Some of them very well armed with European guns; others with bows, arrows, spears and cutlasses. 148(), Generally speaking, are they not very imperfectly armed ; that is to say, they have very few muskets among them?— No, there are a great manv muskets; they ilo not use the bayonets. 1487. Do you think that the one-half of any force that they could bring against our colony there would be armed with muskets?— I am not able to say wliat"force they might bring. 14S8. Is the colony of Sierra Leone accessible at any point by the natives, except by the neck of the peninsula ? — Yes, there is nothing to prevent their coming in canoes and landing on any part. ' '^ I4S(). Could they do that to any formidable extent? — Vcs,.they could. I4()(i. Mere you ever at tlie island of Fernando Po:— No. * 141)1. Were you ever at the .American colony of Liberia? — Xo. 14<)'.'. Have you had means of obtainiaii; information respecting tiiat colony? — 1 have heard a good deal about it. 149.']. Vou have seen persons who have been there? — Yes. 14(14. What is tiic distance from our colony? — From our colony, I should think fro-n jou to 400 miles. i4(»,5. l\\ what latitude, north or south ? — South. i4() Colonel Findlai/. 150,5. Are tliere any Europeans tl)ere ?— Not any. — — — 1506. Have you ever heard what is the amount of the population of Liberia? winByi034. 1 have MOt. 1.507. What is the population of Sierra Leone ?— About 33,000. ... '•^°^- '' •"'^ "■^^'"'^ '" ubunilon Sierra Leone alloi^ether, do you not think that the liberated Africans could protect themselves afjainst any attack that mielit be mr. - on the part of the natives ?-If the British Government were to abandon Sierra Leone, 1 should say two-thirds of the liberated Africans would be sold for slaves before 12 months. 1509- How would that take place .'—The natives would seize them, and more- over they would sell one another. 1510. What makes you imagine the natives would seize them ; have they not the means of detending thrmselves ?— They have already seized several and carried them ort, although residing under our protection. 1,5 n. They might seize an individual fiere and there; but could they make an incursion into the colony and tak. them off by muin force .'--Of course if thev knew they had not British protection, and were not supported by the British tiovernment. •' 1512. Why does that not take place at Liberia.?— I cannot say. 1.513- Do you know whetiier it does or not take place at Liberia?— I do not kno», not having been there; nor do I know how the colony of Liberia is defended. •' 1.514- Are you aware of any instance of liberated Africans selling each other as slaves .-—Y es ; and some have been executed for that oiVence. 1,51,5. State the in.stance?--At the sessions held in December 1831, Tom and Duncan were convicted and subsequently executed fur that olVence. About t needavs before I lelt Siena Leone, a woman handed a letter to me, eomplainin.- that she had been up the countrv some time lor the benefit of her health, and on coming away, that her hu.lmna look her (i.niiihter and delivered her up to somebody as a slave : and she uisiied me to use my inllucnce in getlini; biiek her eliiiil. 1,5 10. What is the .•^tate o\ mortality "among the liberated Africans r— Very creat on then- first arrival. -^ '^ 1,517- Now, as compared with the blacks from the West Indies in tlie African corps r--l he African corps is not from the West Indie.-*; that is recruited on the coast. ^ 1 here are tuo West India icgiment^ recruited also at Sierra Leone. 1,51 .S. V\ ould there be any dilfieiilly m ollicerini; tiiose regiments by mulattoe« or black men.-— 1 here would lie no ditheulty in otlieeiing them, but there wjuld be great diliieulty in gelling olHeers of that dcscriplior. competent to do the duty 1,519- -'^'"e there any at present, mulatu es or blacks r— There is one mulatto. 1,5:^0. Ollicer?— Yes; he is surgeon of tiie .\liican corps. 1,5-' I. Is I'.astmus surticienlly near to I'leetown, and to the garrison, to form a feature of delence for that garrison ?— No. 1,522. What is the distance.- — From 20 to 2,5 miles. I.5-'.;- Suppose there was an attack by the native savages on Freetown, would not all the settlers combine there ?— I tliink that is very doubtlid. 1.524- Do not they feel tin- Ivnetit of the establi-,hmeiit ?— No doubt they do- but there are so many castes. tlKil one easle wouhl be very happy* to have the op()()rtunitv of destroying ilic otiier. 1,5-' ,5- U|)on the whole, do you consider the liberated Africans, generally spcakmg, a corrupt and demoralized population .^-When they arrive they certainly aie l)ut alter some years residence in the colony they become a very well-behaved and « ell-conducted pcojile. 1,526. Can you consider a population which you think would, if left to them- selves, commence a system of .selling each other into slavery, u moral or well- con.lucte.l popuK.tion ? -The generality of them are so ignora:.l, that the more cunning would very easily fi.ul means of decoying them out of the colony ; and once out, they are slaves. Not that they would be taker by force, but they would oe enticed a«iiy. ^ I 527- Ls the climate at Sierra Leone salubrious only to Europeans, or salubrious 10 Aliicans who are hrouglit there r -Only to Alrieans. .*'i!**', "^;'" ''"^''f^'l "'''I tl'i-ri-- were "several mulatloes, several mulatto young genil.!iiri) (you ijs.d iliatieriii ia your class ol iiersous as tudeiiee); do you mean that there nulattoes, living in Sierra Leone, that are of that IS a •y that station, that they could be eiiipToyed eiti rank or of advan- ler in civil or military situation tageously ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 87 tageously ?— They are employed in civil situations as far as their capacities will Colonel Findlay admit, but they ure not fit to iioiii the hi}^lier offices. 1.529. They are not fit either by cHucation or by station ? — Certainly not. ^ '^*y ''34* • 530- Tiiey are only fit to be employed in a military capacity ? — ^That is to say, in the militia. 1531. Do they not act as officers of the militia ? — Yes. '.532. Then could not the same persons who act as officers of the militia also act as officers ot the African corps or the West India regiments ? — No, I should think not. '533- Would there be a want of capacity? — I should think there would be, 1,534. Are the mulattoes generally found to be deficient in capacity ? — There are some of them not deficient, hut still I do not consider they would be fit to be officers ; we had an example of them in the African corps. '.53.5- How ?— It was the intention at one time to have officered that corps with men of colour ; one was sent out ; he came from the West Indies, I believe.. But his conduct was so improper that he was obliged to resign his commission. .1536- Then your opinion would be unfavourable dtiier to officering this corps with mulattoes or free blacks of that colony, or even of introducing mulattoes or blacks from the West Indies to officer that corps ; it would be unfavourable to them ? — Certainly. 1.537- Would the mortality among that kind of officers be greater than among the Europeans ?- Wc have had two onlv. 1538. Do you attach much value to the settlements of Gambia and Sierra Leone, with reference to the prevention of the slave trade ? — Assuredly it does much, but you cannot effectually prevent the slave trade there. '.53!)- Supposing the cruizing vessels were c"\'inued in certain latitudes, as they are at present, would they not be as effectual, or 'learly so, without these settlements as with them ? -The squadron might be equally successful, but the settlements are indis|)ensable for the location of Uie slaves. 1540. But supposing they could easily prevent tne slave trade? — They miaht be equally successful in their seizures certainly. " i,')4i. Then yon think these settlements only useful as far as the locatin" of the slaves captured by those vessels is concerned ?— Those settlements are useful in tne way of trade. There is a very considerat)le exportation of British manufac- tures, which is returned in African prcduce, and which gives employment to many ships and seamen. i,54-|. W'ould not the commerce be carried on still? — No, there would be no protection for it. '543- Was there not an instance in tiie Gambia where tiie merchants had formed an establishment tor the purpose of commerce, and would not that esta blisiiment he still formed on that coast ? — The merchants would not have formed a mercantile estal)lishinent there had they not had military protection. 1544. But are not all these slaves which lue purchased in that market exchanged for merchandize of some kind or other ; would liie slave trade l)e carried on with- out an exchange of commodities of some kind or other for those slaves, and would not faciiity therefore be given in the place where the slave trade was carried on for im[)ortii)g other articles ?— Of course all tiie merchandize from this country, or, I should say, the greater part of it, goes into the interior, and the slave trade is carried on with that ; in fact, a cargo of slaves cannot be obtained without mer- chandize. •545- Independently of the exchange which is made in those countries, of com- modities for slaves, are ilieie not a gieat many other commodities, the produce of those countries, which the natives wish to exchange for Kuropean commodities? — The Brili.>,li merchant does not exchange his uicichandize for slaves, lie exchanges it for the natural produciioits of the country ; and it is when the British goods get into the hands of the slave trathckers that they carry on their trade, and carry them to the ports where tiiey know they can get a sale. 1546. Would not the natives who have connnodities to exchange for European merchandize, alli.rd laciliiies for that interchange? — No, tiie native will never bring any piotluce to the market if he can possibly get a market lor a slave in the neigiiliouiliood. I. 547. Do you think there would be any difficulty in this country carrying on U' 'I 'M trade with Atricu it there wcr e no military establishments at Sierra Leone and 0.2.' u 4 Ciambia. i rs^ 88 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Colunel Findlay. 6 May 1834. Gambia?— I should think it would be impossible to carrv 011 trade with the nativrs unless there was some military protection. 154S. How many years have these establishments been formed ?-— The esta- blishment of the Gambia was formed in '8i(j. 1549. '^»J •'^'fcrra Leone ?— Tliathas been formed many years previous • I cin not exactly say how lonr;. . ^ r » ^-ui.- i.k'-.o. Mas the trade at Gambia increased very much since the military establisli- ment there ?— Very much indeed. " ^ si"ousii 15.51. In consequence of it, you think ? — Yes. 1,552. Did you not belong to the second West India regiment?— I did. I55;5- And were you not there many years witli the regiment ? — I was. 154- And a great part of the time in a separate command ?— V cs. 1555. How long were you on tlie coast of Africa altogether ?— I went to the coast ot Atnca i.i May iSi.j, and i left it in July 1833 ; i was there all the time with the cxeption ot a tew months. 1556. Were you governor until you left Sierra Leone?— Yes. 1557- Then your governorshir ceased in July 1833?— In July' 1833. 1558. Lock at that Return, and see whether you can suggest any alteration in tlie statt, or any reduction in that establishment .-—No, certainly not ; no reduction 1 would say that it would he advisable to increase the medical. J wis, 8° die Maii, 1834. LORD VISCOUNT EBRINGTON, IN THE CHAIR. if. IF. Hay, Esq 8 May 1834. R. JV. Hay, Esq. called in ; and Examined. /^^m'^'^^r ^^^ "^^"^^ ^^^^ ""' "PP^'*"" ^y t''c Return delivered in from the Colonial Oflice of the stafi-pay and allowances to the diderent functionaries at Sierra Leone any statement of the salary received by the governor of Sierra Leone, can vou iniorm the Committee what the amount of that salary is?— The salary is 2,000/. a year. It does not ai)pear in the first place, because the acting governor. Colonel Findlay, U the commencement of .the period, was absent on leave in this country and in the latter part of the period the governor was a civilian, and therefore does not appear in the military return. 1560. You have already given in the consolidated return for Malta =— Yes I have. ' 1 5(i 1 . 'y^'lio is the present governor of Malta ?— The present lieutenar' overnor ot Malta is major-general Sir Frederick Ponsonby. I'lC)-'. Does his command extend beyond the island of Malta?— It only includes the island of Gozo. I -)()3. Was not this command formerly connected with that of the Ionian Islands = —It was, ill th-; time of Sir Tliomas Mcitland ; at his death, in 1824, the two com- mands were ilisjoined. 15<)4. What is the |)resent number oi troops at Malta ?— The actual number of troops in Malta, by the latest return, which is to the 1st of January 1834, makes the total number amount to 2,353, including artillery and engineers and the Malta Fencibles. 15C5. What was the amount of the French garrison at the surrender of the island ?— I have understood the I'Vencli garrison ainounled to 4,500 men at the time ot the surrender; but that was after some length of siege. I5<'0. The Coijimiltee have by them a return of the ellective force in Malta in each year since 1815 ; can you give any information as to the variation in number ot men employed there during that period ?— I have a return before me to which allusion IS made, aitl also one Irom the Ii-nian Islaiuls of the .same description, it IS difficult to explain one document without reference to the other, since for a consulciiible period the two commands were joined, and a .sort of interchaii"e of troops limy he sn|)posed to have taken place. The fmst year, 1 8 1 (i, which appears 111 the ^ alta return, makes the force amount to 5,-S7o. That of course was the wmi.slahliihiiicat, and it was immeihutely diminisiied by one hair, as in the year 1 817 It appears to be only 2,441. In the year 1 819 a considerable redu.lion was made, and nearly the same amount of force was kept up until the year i82ti, when the ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 89 the Malta Fenciblcs were raised, and tlm force was immediately increased to 2 03a men, at which amount or tiiereubouts it remained till 1 829, when it was a-min raised It appears to have been reduced in January 1832 to 1,9,51 men, but Uiis « ts in consequence ot the absence of a regiment at the time ; because I observe in poing over in a simdar manner a return from the Ionian Islands, which I have betoic me, that m one particular case the force at Malta was only about 850 men which can only be accounted tor on the supposition that a regiment was on its way' to the Ionian Islands, and that the regiment relieved had not reached Malta 1567 State the amount of the Malta Fencibles?-The numbers iiave varied at ilitterent times; they were established in 1825, at six companies of 75 rank and hie each. In 1826 an additional company was authorized, and the present estab- lishment IS the same as the original one, six companies of 7'; rank and file each In going over in the same way the number and distribution of the eftective force in the Ionian Islands, from the year 1816, it is evident thai the amount of force there was influenced by the state of political aflfairs in the Mediterranean • for in the year 1820 the force appears to have been 2,761 ; in the following year it amounted to 3,046, and III the year 1 822 it was again increased by another battalion to ^ -coe at which amount it continued as long as the state of allairs in Greece rendered it necessary to have a large force in the Ionian Islands. In the year 1829 there seei is to have been a further increase to a large extent, nearly 1,000 men, which no doubt the government of that day thought necessary, from the aspect of public affairs in the ^outh ot Liirope. It ren:ained at that large amount until Januarv 1831 when a reduction took place, and a siill further reduction has been more recently made as the Committee are aware, and the garrison now amounts to 2,3,53 me- The Committee will perceive, from what I have staled, that at times the amount of the garrison at Malta has been influenced by the state of affairs in the Ionian Islands tor though the immediate stations arc not now under the same command, vet the one nnght always be called upon to supply aid to the other. i,5t)8. The two governments had directions to that ettect?- Yes they have orders to afford aid to each other in case of necessity. It is right also to observe that in estimating the amount of force which it might be expedient to keep up in these stations, the King's CJovernuient have not been guided merely by a consi- deration ot what might be the smallest number ot troops by which the duties of the garrisons might be performed, or the islanils secured from sudden or petty attack.s, or trom the cflects of any internal commotions but with a just estimation ot tlie importance of tlicse foreign dependencies, they have considered it essential that such a lorce should be maintained in both quarters, as miMit sunpurl the political influence ot this country in tlie atVairs of Europe, and uphold tiie national and commercial interests of the empire in the Mediterranean. 1,569. In fact, a considerable reduction has taken place in the ag^renate of the force ot the two places, of the Ionian Islands and Malta, in the course'i)f the last three years.-— A considerable reduction witiiin the time sjiecihed. I wish also to say, continuing my observations upon this point, if the Committee will allow me that the st:ite ol afinirs in Turkey and Greece should always, in some degree' influence not only tlic amount of force in the Ionian Islands, but in Malta also •' and It remain:, to be seen whether any diminution of troops can fairly be made in cither quarter at present, although (ireece is certainly in a more seUled state than It was at the time when the force was increased. 1.17»- I lave you any documents in the Colonial Otfice to show the opinion of those >vh<) had command at Malta, as to the amount of force necessary for its garrison under present or recent circumstances .5—1 have received a memorandum of hir l-iederick I'onsonby's, which states, that " if any diminution of the number of the present gariison was to take place, it would be absolutely necessary to au.^- mcnt the Malta I-encibles to a corresponding extent, as the duties of the garrison cannot be performed with a smaller number of troops." Lord Hastiii.'s was extremely anxious that two regiments of Maltese Eencibles should be raised. He was the original proposer of tiit scheme, and it was not thought expedient to do moie than to raise one at that time. 157'- ^^'as not the emplovment of a certain number of the people of Malta one of the chief ob.jects of raising that corps?— No doubt of it ; the peoj.le are in grrat «Bnt ui employment from the ohanue wliicii lia.s taken place from a state of war to peace m that island. The revenues of the Order «ere considerable, and »u're expended largely in the island. 1572. From the information that you have received, do you believe that that " corps K. U\ Hat/, E«q. 8 May iR<)4. f 'i go MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE A. fV. Hay, Esq. corps could be advantageously increased? — To a certain extent, I think it might with great advanluge. 8 M»y 1834. 157;}. To what extent? — I should raise it to 1,000 men. i,')74. Have you rcasor. to believe that it is equally erticient with a British regiment lor Malta duty? — I should think it was lully so, particularly when the climate is taken into account. 1,575. From the information that you have received, have you reason to believe it will be practicable to raise a regiment iti Malta for service in other parts of the Mediterranean, or in the West Indies? — I should doubt it extremely, certainlv not upon the same terms. i,';76. What is the difference of expense between the present corps of the Malta Fencibles and the British regiments? — ^The Malta Fencibles cost 11,000/., and the average cost of the service companies of a British regiment may be taken at 17,500/. 1,577. Does that difference arise wholly from the difference of pay ? — From the didierencc of pay to the officers and the privates. 1578. What nre the numbers for which you fix the expense at the sums you have stated ? — At the present amount, which is six companies of 75 men each. 1579. '* ''"y ''0""ty given to the Maltese? — The bounty of i I. 1.580. Wliat is the bounty given to a British soldier? — I believe it to be 4/. 1.581. Do you think it would be practicable to secure the service of Malta regiments with the same rate of pay for Corfu, Gibraltar or Jamaica ? — 1 should apprehend not. In their own island they can live at a less rate. 1582. Do you consider, then, tiijit the increased charge lor pensions for services out of the island, and the increased charge for bounty, would in a great measure absorb the saving that would be effected by employing a given number of Maltese troops in lieu of British lorce ? — I should imagine it would. 1.583. Do the officers and privates of the Malta Fencibles receive the same pay as troops of the line? — They do not, as I have already explained. 1 .584. ,\re the officers entitled to half-pay, or their widows to pensions ? — Neither. 158,5. Are the privates entitled to pensions? — Only in case of wounds, or infnnii- ties contracted on service. 1.586. Is the term of service for which they are enlisted limited? — It is limited, and has undergone some variation. Previous to 1828 it xvas for five years ; from June 1828 it became seven, and il is now from April 18,32 ten years' service. 1.587. Are the otiier colonial corps on the same footing with the Malta Fencibles ? — No ; the officers arc F.nglish for the most part, which is not the case in tiic Malta Fencibles, and their pay is different. 1588. Tiie pay is the same as the line ? — \'es. 1.589. In all other colonial corps? — In all other colonial corps; there may be some little variation, but the pay is tlie same, as far as I know. 1.590. Have you the means of knowing what duties the Malta Fencibles are calle(l upon to perform, and how they are distributed ? — Tiie Malta Fencibles are employed cliietly on detached duties of police, and lookin" to the execution of the revenue laws. They stand the heat better than British troops, and are therefore employed in situations where Furopeans, or rather British troops, would suffer. The latest distribution of the Maltese force hs as follows: in the city of Valletta, 292 rank and (ile ; in Cottoncru, 74 ; on the east and west coasts, ,52 ; and in (lozo, 4,5, which makes tlie distribution of that force 463. 1.591. Are there otiier duties to which their services are applicable in the event of an augmentation of that force ? — Any additional class of duties r 1.592. Ves. — They take the garrison duty as far as they can, in common with the rest ot the British troops. 1.593. Has it ever been proposed to assimilate the otiier colonial corps to the Malta Fencil)Us? — A proposition of that sort was made in the year 1829, from the Secretary at War to the Colonial Secretary ; and it was objected to by Sir George Murray. The letter wtiich I have before me I should propose, if the Com- mittee a|)prove of it, to reail a passage from, in order to show what I wish to explain; this is a letter from the Colonial OHice of the 7th December 1829. 1.594. \\ hat is the condition of the lower orders at Malta r— I believe it to be one of great distress ; I have already stated that their employments are few, and the means of gaining their bread very insuflicient. 1,59,5. Mas the local government recomnicniled any measures for their employ- ment r— -The local government has recommended strongly that certain works should bo m ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 91 be undertaken which are very necessary in themselves, but they would also have the advantujijc ot eii)ployinj? the people. The works are chiefly the erection of a prison the buiidinj; ot a church, and latterly the foundation of a dock for the use ot tlie British navy. i.59ti- How are they to be paid for ?— They are to be paid for out of the colonial revenue, that is to say, as far as the colonial revenue would go. TJie means are inadequate for the formation of a dock, thoujjh they might be perfectly sufficient for the completion ot the church and the prison whicii it was contemplated to build. 1.597-98- Have steps been taken by the Government at home for carrying this recoinmeiulatioii -nlo effect?— The recommendation of tho governor has been com- municated to the Treasury, and it is hoped that they will consent to employ a certain sum ot money, which is, in fact, the surplus of the revenue, in the way which I have mentioned. ^ 1599. Wliut is the amount of that surplus?— The amount of that surplus is 6,000 /. ' 1600. Is that the whole surplus, after paying the expense of the civil establish- ment?— No; the Malta government have besides paid 11,000/. into the militarv chest to delray the expense of the Malta Fencibles ; the 6,000/. is a surplus beyond that sum. '^ 1601. What is the whole jmnual revenue of the island ?— The whole annual revenue ot Malta is ratlier more tiian 100,000/. a year. 1602. Do not the Malta Fencibles appear in the Armv Estimates?— They do so- hut in order to bring the general force of the empire under one view, it was deter- mined in 1 8.>8 tluit they .should appear there, and that the sum which is intended to delray their expense should 1)6 paid in the island into the military chest, which IS done. ■' 1603. What is the population of Malta ?— The population of Malta is go 000 without reference to the troops, or accidental inhabitants. 1604. Does that include the Malta Fencibles ?— No, it does not include the troops ; It IS exclusive of all the military. Including the troops and the residents the population amounts to 122,000, including Gozo. ' Kio,-;. What is the population of Gozo ?— Sixteen thousand. 1606. What are the sums paid by the colony into the military chest?— The last three years, during which those payments have been made, they amount to the sum I Imve already stated, 3(i,295 /. 1607. What is the disposition of the Mn'M-se generally towards the British Government .'—I believe them to be perfectly loyal and well-disposed, in every way. ■ r > J itio8. Arc you aware of any complaints on the part of the Maltese of the amount ot taxation paid by them ?— No, I am not. Properly speakin.', they have no taxation at all ; there are duties on articles of consumption and Ucences but there are no taxes whatever in the island. ltio9 Have those duties been increased since the island came into our pos- session ? — 1 he duties upon foreign commodities r It) 10. Tlie duties upon imports?— I have no means of information which would enable ine to make a comparison between the amount of duties levied in Malta under the o.Jerot St, .Fohn, and those which have been levied under the British Government. Kin. Do you think that Malta can afford to pay a larger sum than she now does towards her military defence?—! certainly think she ought not to do so, con- •suleriMg lliat she pays at present one-tenth ot' her revenue (11,000/. per annum) into the military chest, and that she is almost the only colony of smail extent which contributes so much to the militarv defence. • 1612. Does she pay that in addition to hearing all the expenses of the civil government r— She bears all the exjien.ses of the civil government. i()i3 Have any steps been taken of late to diminish those expenses ?-Sincc Sir Iredenck 1 onsonl.y took charge of the government, the annual expenditure has been(liminishe(l to the amount ot 1 1,000/. a year. , '•'!'♦• .^'"-i, !,''"' rendered a inrge sum available towards the military defence of the ^island .'—lliere has l)etn no additional increase to the military contribution, .or !.ie rear-on which ! ha\e adverted to, viz. that it would hardly be fair to impose upon ftlalta a larger payment, ronsidering the destitute state of the island, and the iiecessily ot those public works to which I have alluded, and which would affbrd emjiloyment to the people, °-^^' N 2 ,615. To R. rr. Hay, Ew| A May 1834. r 0r] ga MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE R. II'. Hay, K^q. ifii.";. To wl)ut then lm» tlic 8ui|ilus arising out of the leduction of expenditure which you have stated, been applied ? — It has been applied in tiie way principally 8 Mm i«3^. (|m( I ,„„ ^^Qy/ describing ; the t),ot)o /. which is now to be disposed of is the result of economy on the part of the governor. i(ii(i. That would go in abatement of the expense of the colony to England/' — No, it will not be m) applied, because it is intended to devote this surplus money to the purposes of the local government. I have always considt-red that u colony is not bound to bear any large proportion of its military expense, excepting where colonial corps are re(|uired for purposes connected with civil administration, or for defence against the incursions of neighbouring tribes. iGi7. In disposing then of the surplus r«!vcnue, the British Government would consult the wishes of the people of Malta by expending it in the way they consider most beneficial ? — It is considered just by the Maltese that their surplus should not be expended in any other way. 1618. You stated, when we took possession of the island, that the amount ot Freiicii troops which then coniposeil the garrison was 4,500 men ; are you not aware that at that time we were at war with France, and that we had also (.om|)lctc command of the Mediterranean, and that tiie force which had been *!irovvn into Malta, when the French expedition sailed to I'.gypt, was with refer-, nee to a stale of sie^e r — I presume the French left as large a force there as they could well spare. i6iy. Von have stated the force at present to amount to 2,3.53 rank and tile; are you aware that llie average force of the years 1819, 1820 and 1821, was only 1,524? — It appears so. 1 620. During a {jreat portion of that time was not war raging between ,Mi Pacha and tiie Porte? — I believe so. 1621. Then might it not have been supposed that thatof itself would make it necessary for us to iiave as large a garrison as circumstances would permit, to watch the evenls that were going on.' — I presume there were difficulties in sup|)lying the garrison ; but the governor certainly represented at that time (tlie precise year I cannot say) the inadequacy of his force, and accordingly, in the year 1825, the Maltese Fencibles were raised in order to increase the force. 162 J. Are you aware that the number of men daily on duty at Malta has been reduced of lute years? — I am not aware of the fact, but I have no douLt it is so from the necessity of the case. i<)23. At the same time the force has been increased? — As I have already stated, tiie force has been increased since i8j6. i()24. What was tlie aggregate force of the garrison of the Ionian Islands and of Malta in the year 1821 ? — Four thousand five hundred and sixty-six rank and file. 1625. And the present force is larger than that, is it not? — 1 apprehend it is. i()26. Is not liie agiircgiite force in Malta and the Ionian Islands considerably greater now in time of profoiimi peace, and when Greece is uncter a new system of government, than it was in the year 1818? — There is a diH'erence of 247 men. i(i_'7. Slate what tne aggregate force was in the year 1820? — Four thousand two Imndied and eigliteen ; that is 157 rank and hie less than the present force. At the same time I should oiiserve, that it may be a question whether the state of Greece is suthciently tranquil to justify any reduction of force in the .Mediterranean on that account. 1628. Is there anything in the slate of Greece now that justifies a large increase of men ? — T'lie force luis not been increased lately. i()2ij. But as ioni|iaretl uith the former year, 1820? — I have already staled during that year the force was considered to Ije decidedly inadequate in Malta. 1630. But, neverliieless, they did their duty somehow or other? — They might have done the iliity, but with so much disadvantage to the troops as to make the j\icrease necessary, «hicli was the origin of the .Maltese Fencibles. 1031. Von only stale that as your sup|)osition, not as a fact ? — I have already stated the reasons u liieli made it expedient to increase the force. it>32. What is the date of Sir Frederick Ponsonby's memorandum? — In January last. 1(133. Had you complaints made in the years 1819, 1820 or 1821? — To the goveriiinent represi'iilatioiis were made of tiie inadecjuacy ot the hirce. 1G34. Did Ihey represent it as being inadeciuute to take tin duty, or rrisoii did tiiey coiibider it inadequate with reference to political circumstances connected e with ON MILITAllY ESTADLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 93 with timt part of Kurope?— A governor of course can only slate the wants of the service with reference to local considerations ; it is for llie Ciovernnienl at liome to Joresee wlierc additional force may he required on political grounds. K'J.'J. liud yon any statenient that the men were overworked at that period ?— 1 apprehend tliat was the meaning of the force heing considered inadequate. iCjU. Hut can you state whether there was any representation that the men had niore duty to perlorm than tlicy could do consistently with the health of the troops? —I cannot say thut I recollect any representations bcini» made in those precise terms. "^ 1C37. State the average number of troops employed from 1819 to i8a.5, inclusive ? — The average number of troops on both stations was 4,929. 1638. Are you aware whether the average number of British troops employed there now does not exceed the average of the seven years by 200 men, exclusive o» the Alaltcse i'encibles "—Including the Maltese Fencibles, the numbers of the present force, on both stations, exceeds the average for the period referred to, to the amount of 446 men. 1O39. You have stated, that in order to give employment to the native popula- tion, it is intended to erect several public works ; the guol is to be defrayed out ot the colonial revenoe, is it? — Kntirely. 1640. And what is the estimated cost of the new docks to be erected ?— The proposition tor the new docks has not come in an ollicial form ; it was on that point tlnitMi\ Stanley seemed to think it possible the Committee might desire to examine ^ir 1 . Malcolm, who has lately returned from the command of the MediK-rranean fleet. 164!. What is the estimated cost of the gaol?— I do not remember. The sum that was set apart for the gaol and the church amounted to t),ooo/. ; but how that is «listribiited I cannot say, without reference to papers. 1642. When you state that those sums are to be charged on the colonial revenue, are you aware that the following passage occurs in page 15 of the Report of the Commissioners of Inquiry on Colonial Revenue : " W v have found that there are arrear-balancts due to the (iovernment from accounts under former administrations in Malta, and remaining unsettled on tlie 31st December 1829, to the amount oi 31,28,';/. ys. 2 id., exclusive of such arrears as full within the collection of His Majesty s revenue, and whicii will be found stated in the Appendix, under the res- pective heads of revenue, amounting in the whole to the sum of 29,()39/. 16* rij thus making the sum total of arreur of debt due to CJovernment on the 31st De' cetnber 1829, «"'"U"t to the sum of 60,925/. 3*. .<;^,/." Hus any part of that debt been liquidated since the Report of the Commissioners on C;olonial Inquiry' — I appreliend there has, although 1 cannot slate to what extent. i()43- Then how can it be stated that those sums have been expended out of the colonial revenues, when it appears that the revenues of the colony arc so far from being suthcient to give a surplus, that they are not actually sufficient to pay the expenses ot the government ?— I apprehend that a large portion of the debt -is consideied irrecoverable, but tlie good debts are in a course of liquidation. 1644. Will you turn to the next i)a!;e, and does not the following passage appear • " Having observed upon tlie expenditure and revenue of Malta, the amount of its outstanding debt, and the state of the balances due to the (Joverninent, it only remains lor us to state the supplies provided out of the revenue of Great Rritain lor the service of Malta, the sum total r>f Mhich amoums to 529,173/. 184- ioid deducting stoppages made for the troops 28,040/., leaving 101,133/. "8*. 10 jt/ being the sum total of .pense as supplied from (ireat Rritain for Malta, exclusive ot the expense attending the service of the revenue afloat and ashore, which cannot be considered as applicable alone to Malta." Does it not appear from these passages, so far Jroni there being any surplus revenue, in point of fact, the island ot Malta IS u very heavy annual charge to (Jreat Rritain ?—'l he island of Malta is no charge to Great Rriiuin, excepting as far us military expenditure is concerned and not entirely tor that, because the Malta rei.cibles are puiti by the island Jhese expenses are those incurred by the Empire for keeping up Malta us a mili- tary station. ib4',. Rut still it is a charge to the country ? — It is ; nor would it hi- reasonablr to expect the .Maltese to detray it ; in tiie (irst (ilsice, because the- are nniilslo and in the n.xt place, because these are troops which are kept there fJr the purpose's of (jieat Rritain. 164U. Rut admitting the Maltese to be incapable, as they are, of paying these ^ 3 expenses, it tV. Hail, K(i). • May 1834. pi 94 MINUTES OF EVIDINCK HKI'OUE SELECT COMMITTEE 8 Majr itfj*- «. ly. lUj/.M*^. expciwci, and lluit it wouui l)o imtnir to Mk tlicin to clo so, still is it not obvioi* tiiutiill suiimot" iitoiuy wliiili iiri' cxpciuioiJ in piihlic works (liiniiii)th pro lutitn th nhilily ol tlie iftliimi to contriliutf tovvanls the expen.HO ol its militiiry (IcIcirt ? "i »ic isliiiul cannot in uij ways roiiliibute. It liu^ tilieady done iiioif tlmn aliiiu.st any oliu-r pus.session ol the Crown, liy puying the cviloniul corps HJiicli is Htalioned in tlic islitnd. IO47. Will you stiito the umniiiit of wilary nnd tdlowanirs, if any, nrfivcd hv tiic iii'utunant-^ovfrnor of Malm? -Sir l-'redoricit I'unsoiihy enjoys u Kulary from tin- islam! of .'-..ooo/, witliont any iillowunccs HJiatevrr. l«'4H. Ui'.siilfs lliat, he has u Iioum', has lie noti* — He hus u lionse in Valletta, and one in the country. • (Ml). Hu.1 lie- any oilier nlloHuncc beside.H that? — None whatever. l«i,V). riicii llie sum total of hit reeeipts is .'J.jS.i/-, besides iiis house?— *. ."i.oDo tlic ^roverngr of Malta bus. I<>.^1. And ;}H;i/, r- That lie would enjoy in any other quarter, wherever lie was, bciiiK tilt amount of iiis unattat hid pay as a j;ineral odiar. I'.t.'iJ. Will yon refer to tiie '\pp( nliix, or tlie Ue|)ort of the Commissioners on Military Inquiry, ami observe the anuxmi rccomniendml by them to be rieeived by the fjovernor ; lluv stale the lieuttnant-j^overnor to receive 4,000/. a year, fora^jp, ration, fuel, li^ilit, iS;c. unliiiiited. Can yon state the estimated amount' of this ullowaiicr, which tiiu Coiniiiissioneis reromniended ? — 1 siiould suppose brtween 300/. ami 400/. u year. K*,'),!. lluKtore the Conniiissioncr.s' recommendation is, that the governor of Malta should iee«'ive abo'.it 4. ;;<'<•/. or 4,-|imi/. a year?— Yes. i<','i4. lint lit" is uctually in liie leeeipt of ,5,000/. a year? — Yes; it was con- sidered that 4,«»oo/. was not siilficient ; he was jilaecd on the snine scale as the (Jovenuir of (Jihiallur and tiie Lord High Commissioner of tile Ionian Islands, in substitution for tiie whole system of lora^c allowance, iScc. HVi,'). Can yon point out to llin Committee whether nny reductions can be made in the F.UKlish ficnenil .Maftdf the garrison at Malta? — I should think it out cf the question ; it seems to be on as low a srale as possible. |6.'>I>. Are you awnre that in the commissariat there appears to be u principal storekeeper, and un undn-storek(T|)ei, beyond the amount of establishment ut Gil)raltar? -1 can ^jivc no «xplanali(jii with i«'i;ard to these a|)pointiiienls, as the rest ''xciusively « ith tiic 'rrcahiiry. i<».57. An- you awnie that there are any eiicunistances connected with the island ot Malta whicli would niukc it necessary to have a larger commissurial establish- nunt tluui that at (iiliraltar ?— Nd, I am not uwaie ; I ilo not possess any iii- t'orniatioii respecting liie eoniinissmiiit department. 1 1>,5>*- Do you mil consider that the garrisons of Ciibraltnr, Malta, and the Ionian Irlands either arc or ou-iht to be rcci|)rocally available for atfordin^; aid to each oilier, in case of either beiiii: attacked ?—rhave always umler»tood that it was considered essential tliaf there bould be at hand aid" for that purpose in each quarter. • ♦>.'»0. You have spoken of nn incrensc for the Maltese corps ; would you consider llint corjis as available, that is, as moveable either to (iibniltar or the Ionian Islands, incases of iie.>(l ?— lly no means; I apprehend they would not willingly enter lor nny st-rvicc, exccptini; within the Mi ditcnanean, "and then they would .scarcely be as useful out of their own country as Itritish troops. itibo. 'I'lie Maltese tidojis tiiin would be nilhoiit value as a di.-posable part of that military eo-ojx laiion which I mn supposing to exist amongst the pnrisons of Cibr.iltar, Malta, ami ijie Ionian Islands ?— My impression is that the Maltese are excellent .soldiers for the purjio.Ms on which they are (inployed ; but I should inc- biiiiie timt out of the i.sjand tli< y would be scaicily better than any other dtsciip- tion ol colonial force; u.s ut pieseut enlisted, they arc not liable to be removed lioni tiie island, K'Oi. Then of collide the Maltese corps would be equally uiiavaildble for aiiV .service in I'oriugal or the U'est Iniiitsr — J'.iiiiiely so. 1(102. They are locked up in Malta? — ^es, undtr their present comliiion of service. hey ON MILITARY ESTAULISIIMKNTS IN THE CGLONIKS. 95 Cuptfiiii tniliam lleimj Bfinktirnc, called in ; urid Exatiiiiictl. 1663. YOU aio liifely returned tVoni Sicrru Ixoncf — 1 um. i<)li4. Motv liitiL; "inccf About two nmntliH. Kili'i. How lonn were you resident tlicrc ?— Tlic lust tiine ubout two years and a hnlJ. ^ idtlfi. Will yon fttiiU; the (liftiicnt periods of your residmice there? — I was at Sieirit Lconu in 1K13, in iS.j(i, uiid I went unt iijiain in iN'^i. iltdy. And how lon^: diil yon reiniiin lliirc iit eiicli ot lliose periods ?• -The two former periods l)nt 11 very short linic, llic huicr uliout two years and a indf. i()6H. Did yon enjoy prnd health duiin;; the periods that you were tii ere r 1 did ; wiien 1 say " 1 did," I was not so ill as to he perfectly continr-d from my duty, i)nt 1 WHS coinplaininj; at times, us is (generally the cuso with most Knropeans, of inlurmittinn fever, hut never so hud diniin; the wiiolo of my ticnc us to be totally cunlined trom my duty. iti(i(). In what situation were yon there? I went out in iS^ji us Imrrnck- master under tlw (ndnunce, and liavini{ remained tliere hut a very short timr in the Imrruck hruncli, in tlic Muy of the sume year I arrived in, I was ap|)ointed to the eliar>«e of mortality, which wus some yeurs very ■7:2. More unfuvonrahle to the Europeans tlian to natives?— Decidedly so. Iti7:{. Can yon slate in what relative proportion ?— Thut would he diHicult, as regards tlie (iold Coast, for there was no rei>ister kept of the deaths of liie natives • it was dining the lute African Company's time thut I um now uiludini^ to ; there wus no register kept of their deaths, and therelore it would he diilicid't for mc to say uiiat would be tiie avernfje proportion. 1(174. Do you mean to say tiiat the bad ctlects of the climate were felt to a great extent l)y natives as well as by Europeans?— They have their ehuiiM of seasons inurh the same as wo have in this country, and tlieir severe seasons certainly nic very iii)nrious to tlieir constitutions, us much so nearly in proportion as our seasons are to the natives of this country. iti7.',. Do yon then consider that the average of life is the same nmon<' the natives there as anions the p'.'ople of Europe f;cnerally ?— No ; I should say" that the deaths were f^reater m proportion in thut part of Atricu than they would be in Eurofie. it)76. That they are generally more short lived- -I should say generally, t)ut there are exceptions. i()77. Is the ell'ect of the climate destructive to Europehns generally? Ihe eflect ol the cliinutc on Europ<'uns dilfcrs ; some persons are mine tortunute in escaping the ravages of the disease than others ; sonic are attacked almost im- mediately on their arrival, and full victims to it; others may escape for u or 18 months or two yeurs, without the slightest attack of fever,"' l)ut ure ultimately curried o(f ; lor ilie general opinion of ull the faculty that ever I have .seen is, that the sooner a European is uttaekeil with what is callcil the native fever, or a season- ing ot the climate, tiie more forlunalely it generally terminates witii him. 1O7S. Have )ou ever been at Cape Coast Castle ? — I have. it)7(j-8(). At (iainbiu ? — 1 imve. itiSi. ,\t 1 crnando I'o ? — No. itiSj. Which do yon consider the most healthy of those stations at which you have been U:y K,,,,,p,,;,,,. :_ According to Use present :,tutc of the coioiiy of Sierra Leone, I siiould preler it to any other place thut the Committee have alluded to, us lur as regards the salubrity and health of the place. °-^5. N 4 168J-84. With Cnnliiiii II . H. lUeHkainr. H May 1834. Captsin . H. lihnkiirnr. 8 May l8;!4. 96 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE 1683-84. With regard to tlie native population? — Oil, decidedly preferable. 1685. Is iliut from natural situation, or from any artificial cause? — Sierra Leone having been a considerable time a colony, it has of course had that advantajie which tlic Gold Ccast never had, and naturally the people have become more familiar to the habits and customs of Europeans than they hav in otlier parts. 1686. But iviih regard to health?- -With regard to health, 1 mean decidedly pre- lerable, more drained. 1687. But do you consider that, in point of natural situation, it is also better? — I would say it is better for natural situation. i()88. Of what description arc the higher class of blacks or mulattoes at Sierra Leone ? — The higher class of the coloured population of Sierra Leone are people generally connected in business; I speak of blacks and mulattoes generally. 1689. Are they persons of any education? — Some of them. 1690. There is u militia at Sierra Leone oflicered entirely by persons of that description ? — There is a niilitia at Sierra Leone, but I do not think it is wholly officered by coloured people. '691. But officered partly by them? — Yes, 1692. Do you consider that the description of persons who act as officers in that militia would be fit to receive commissions in the colonial corps that are employed there? — I should say not. 1603. Wiiy? — I speak from experience in several instances, that there has always been a wan: of ability and efficiency shown on the part of these men when- ever they were put to any thing beyond an ordinary degree ; with one or two excep- tion?, I may say almost generally. 1694. Tiiere is one who is employed as a surgeon in one of the colonial corps? — Yes, there is. 1695. Now, is he a person of the ordinary rate of ability of persons in that situa- tion ?- tie is a coloured officer, but not an African. 1(396. What countrynnin is lie? — I really cannot say. I (197. A West Indian r — I really cannot say ; I believe he is of a Scotch family. 1*598. Do yon consider that any of the coloured population at Sierra Leone wouUl bo cajiable of performing any of the offices now performed by Europeans in that colony? — 'Ihere might be some instances where they would perform those duties, but then it could only be in infeiior situations. 1699. Arc there any people of colour or blacks that are associated with by the population in any way; any officer.^ or others? — I have seen them interuiix in society, but not generally. 1700-01. Had you any ordnance clerks under you? — I have occasionally had a clerk under me, but he has only been a copyist. 1702. In any of the merchants' houses at Sierra Leone, are there confidential clerks, blacks or mulattoes ? — There may be in some of the stores or merchants* houses at Sierra Leone coloured young men, who are acting as shop-bovs, but I never saw any thing beyond it. 1703. Have you ever been in the West Indies? — I have. 1704. Are you able to form a comjiarison between the scale of capacity for business between the mulattoes and free blacks at Sierra Leono and free blacks m the West India colonicN?— No; I was not a very long time in the West Indies ; but I have been in several parts, and Irom what 1 could see, I imagine the difi'erence of |)opu'ation between tiie West India islands and that of Sierra Leone is favourable for the coloiired men in the West India C(^lonies, more so than it would be at Sierra Leone. 170,-,. Are yon noi aware that in t!ie West India islands, mulattoes and persons of colour have proved themselves fj l>e perfectly capable of holding situations of trust r-- 1 have heard so. 170(1. Have you ever been h; any of tiio native courts in .Africa? — No, I have not ; I have bcL-n very near. 1707. Then you do not know of your own knowledge whether at any native courts there are blacks that have proved themselves, in communication with Euro- peans, to possess .strong poMcis of intellect ?~Tliere are some, no doubt, according to tiie customs of tiieir country, .selected tor certain offices by their kings and chiefs, and those are generally coniidcred to be men of superior talent ; but that is merely confined to the natives tiiemselvcs. 1708. As compared with other natives? — As compared with other natives. J 709. Wlien you say that you think the scale of capacity is low among the mulattoes ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 97 Martis, 13* die Mali, 1834. 8 May 1834. mulattoesRnd blacks, what is your opinion of the scale of morality ?— I have never had suftcient knowledge of any of these persons to look closely into their moral IK H.Vl, state but if I were to give my opinion as to the moral character of the Africans it IS 08.0 > 1710. And of the mulattoes of the mixed castes r— I should say bad 1711. Any systematic disregard of truth ?-Pcrfectly soj and all manner of vice 1712. Are you aware of any reduction that can be made in the military expenditute or the establishment of the colony ?— I am not; I believe not loner ago the question was agitated as to the increase of the force required at Sierra LORD VISCOUNT EBRINGTON, IN THE CHAIR. Robert William Hay, Esq. called in ; and Examined. enX'ed™eCrp:plTtis"^ ^'"" '" ' " ^^'"^" °' '"^ '^^ ^' P^^^ Tu'^i'*' ^'"^''A''^ ^^^ C"P^ fii'st come into the possession of Great Britain '— Ihe first expedition sent out from this country against the Cape was in 17qs when a squadron was dispatched under the orders of the late Lord Keith w?th a battalion of infantry under the orders of Sir James Craig. It was at the samn Ume intended that a considerable force should be sent out scion afterwards to IndTa under the command ot Sir Alured Clarke, who would be instructed to touch a the Cape, for the purpose ot affording assistance, should the objects of the exoed tion sent out under Lord Keith not have been already accomplished In C he Cape was ceded to Holland, and in 1806 it was again captured by an exoediton sent out from England under the command of Sir David Baird ^ ^"I'^^ition in \l\l\ '^^Jr ?' *'" ""'°""l "' '■ ^ *"'""" employed at the Cape at its capture forJr ' ^''-^'"^ "'^" altogether, previous to the arrival of Sir A. Clarke's 1716. What was the amount of the Dutch garrison ?— The Dutch garrison amounted to 1,000 regulars and 2,.50() militia. garrison :„ 7o'^\^"nV"" '^"'^ ''''"' ""' "'^ ^'"°""' °f ^''^ '■"'•'^e employed in the capture ,n 180b?— 1 here were seven regiments of infantry under Sir David Baird and four troops of dragoons ; in all about 5,000 men. ' 17>8. Do you know what was the amount of the Dutch force at that period ' -lie enemy s force, as reported by Sir David Baird. consisted of aboul 5,000 men. the gieater proportion ol which was cavalry, and 23 pieces of cannon • c!"'?.' ^«" y»" «'ate what was the amount of force considered necessary to ^.sure the safety ot the place by any ot the officers who commanded the force sent out r-Sir James Craig wrote home strongly on that subject, and I have made extracts Iron, some of Ins letters which perhaps the Comn.ittee may wish to hear deS o?\r:r "■:;■ th'r niSr" ""■ "'^ '^^"^^ °^ ^'^^ ^°'°"^ ^-^- ^^^ real/LJorSS:;:?'""'^-'' ''''■ ^'°"'' •'^^ ^"'"-"- -«'> - to 1722. It you please. [E.v.'ract given in.] '• The General (Sir Alured Clarke) having called upon me to give l.im my opinion as to the nu,„ber of men rec,u>..to for the defence of the Lttlen.ent.^nderTts Lsen circum- «tances, I did not hesitate to complv with his desire, upon tl,; principle ot Tts bei^rmv du y to obey hm command, althouKi; having been informed by him o i ^^4 his intent^n I" lHri!:!l!l!'::',^r"""' ''T-^ "?^"'^". ""'^^^ "'"^ "'/-'- luld always io^" „; ,:" •„"'•• ; •' p: ••^'"S ■"■iutnccu cy mat dCMie winch is always .upDosed'to accom- rany command, of having it as considerable as possible. I have the honour to e"^?,^' fhrr,! ' f" 7''^ "r t ''"" * "'^'' i. ^'''' '" »•"» "P°" "'« occasion and Jhale at l«st aeJTlTTr ""jrV"^. "'."'. '^^°P"»«>» <^'>"veyed in it is cor oborated by ?hat General Clarke hnnself, of the Admiral, and indeed of every person here." R. IV. Han, Esq. 13 May 1834. 0.95. This 98 MINUTES OF EVIDENCK BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE R. tV. Hay, Esq. This is addressed to Mr. Secretary Dundas, the 9th October 179,5. I will read '- also an extract from the enclosure to which Sir James alludes, dated -26 Sept. 1 795. 15 May 1834. : iiji " You have done me the honour to require that I should give you my opinion relative to the number of men which appear to be necessary for the defence of this colony. Feeling it to be my duty to obey your commands on all occasions, I can have httle hesitation in doinsj so now, when it is upon a subject on which I have long ago made up my mind, upon which I have already stated my sentiments to llis Majesty's ministers, and upon which I do not think it possible there can be two opinions. * • * * " I do not feel myself as yet possessed of sulKcient local information to form, or to enter into any detail of a regular system of defence; but without descending to particulars, when the great extent of coast, the detached situation of some of the landing-places, the open nature of the country, which admits of few advantageous dispositions, none that I at present see which covers the town ; that the fort is indefensible, and the town entirely open ; when these circumstances are considered, added to the ..ecessity of watching tie inhabitants, whom I set down as disattected to us, and who are all armed, I can do no otherwise than say that the i.ooS men who compose the whole of your fi ice, are no more than i'detjiiate to the security of the colony." 1723. VV'luit is tlic amount of the population at tlie Caper — About 120,000 or 1 25,000. 1724. What is the extent of the territory there in jur posstBsiou? — About 146,000 square njiles. 1 725. What proportion of that force of 2,928 men did Sir James Craig calculate on being able to bring into the field? — Not above 2,000. 172(1. What were the cliief detached services which he calculated on as reduc- tions of the number that lie could bring into the field r — There was a fort which he estimated a? re(]uiring a garrison of 300 men, and various batteries along the coast, which being one of great extent, required numerous detachments of troops. There is a i>ortion of the same letter from which I have already given extracts, which per- haps would be worth reading to the Committee. [Extract given ««.] " A pretty strong garrison must alwavs be left in the fort, sudicicnt to secure it and to overawe the town; this could not be less than 301) men. The batteries along the coast must also to a certain degree be guiyded, and could not be .secured under 100 at least. Manv other posts along the coast iiuisl lie occupied, from wlienct' it is likely llmt the men could not be witluhawn in time to join in the action; for you could not abandon the posts till the emniy were actuallv landed, and it would nrob.Jily be our business *o attack him vin-orously before he had time to strengthen himself, te land his artillery, or even to recover from the etl'icls of a long voyage. These are, at a low computation, estimated at \ffi men. Thus our force in tlie field is already liduced to under a, ion men. To you, sir, I need not point out many other causes which would operate to reduce them still further, in spite of every etforl to avoid it ; aiul it is to be remembered that these 'l,\ 78 men include 70 artillery, and the number of additionals which they would iO(iuiie. lI|)oii the whole, I think that out of the four ri'Liiuients now here, we could not expert to bring more than '2 ,000 fit clocks actuallv into till- field. No enemy will, I presume, ever venture on the attack of I his place without having with him such a force as will, under every circumstance of advantage arising from a more numerous artillerv than he could probably laud, our superior means of landing that artdle.j, and our better knowledge of the country, re;. .^"nec been established? — Yes. I73!); At what period?- ]\ vas first suggested by Sir James Craig, and in iSio Lord Liverpool diiveted that it siiouid be placed upon an establishment ot ."joo men. It was afterwards increased by Sir .Foliu Ciaddock, but again reduced to ,'•,00 in 1 8 1/5, in conscciueiice ot iiistruclious from Lord liatliurst, who disapproved id the increase. In i^i7) exceed 1,608 men, Lord C. Somerset was obliged, with reference to the unruly state of the native tribes, to retain a small proportion of the Cape 13 May 1834. corps in the service, and at the charge of the colonial government. Tlie same causes subsequently induced Lord Charles to mount the men whom he had thus retained, and as would appear, to add to their numbers. He, therefore, urged a permanent increase of this local force. Sir 11. Donkin was equally of opinion that the Cape corps should be increased : but it was not until tlie year 1 823 that au- thority «as given for adding two troops to the corps, and for appointing a iield- officer to command it. In the year i82(), it was again determined to reduce the Cape corps, and to adopt the alternative of allotting an additional Br>»ish regiment for the defence of the colony. Hut it seems that it was found difficult to spare a regiment for this service ; and it was finally resolved to reorganize the Cape corps upon its present reduced establishment of 234 rank and file 35 non-commissioned officers and officers 269, and 200 horses. 17^)0. By whom is the expense of this colonial corps borne? — Technically speaking, the Cape corps was borne upon the establishment or revenues of the , colony, until the year 1828, when from constitutional and financial considerations combined, it was thought proper to bring all the colonial corps under the periodical supervision of Parliament, and to make provision for tlieir pay, as a portion of the military 3stablishment of the empire, but with the understanding that the charge provided by Parliament in the first instance, should be repaid into the military chest by the res|)eclive colonial governments. 1741. Can you state the amount of that charger — The total charge for pay, clothing, rations and forage, is about 1 1 ,000 /, 1742. Has that payment been made by the Cape government? — No such re- payment has iiitlierto been eft'ected, in consequence of the inability of the colony to defray the charge ot its civil establishments which was adopted upon the recom- mendation of the Commissioners of Inquiry, which Lord Ripon fell it necessary to begin to reduce, and which Mr. Stanley has recently reduced still further, nith the view of obtaining a surplus revenue, for the |)urpose, among others, of re|)aying the Government of this country the expense of the colonial corps. 1743. Do you consider tliat tiie Cape government could fairly be called on to contribute to the expense of this corps ? — Certainly, as it is entirely for local purposes. .-\s soon as the finances of '.iie colony will admit of it, this charge should be borne by the local revenue. 1 744. What are the duties u[)on which it is employed ? — It is chiefly employed in repressing the incursions of the tribes on the frontier. 1 74,1. Is it employed exclusively upon that duty ? — Entirely, I believe, with the exce()tion of a small number wlio are on special duty at Cape Town. 1 74t). Are any portion of the regular troops employed on the frontier on that duty '. — Yes. 1747. Will you state the distribution of the force? — I hare in my hand the distribution of the force up to the 1st Ttbruary 1834. Distribution of Force at the Cape on the 1st of February 1834 : Cape Town : — Royal ri tillery, rank and file — eni^ineers — 7'2d HighlnndiTs — 7^'ith ri'irimeiit - — 9Hth ditto - — Mounted rides - — Gruham'sTown: — Royal artillery - — — engineers — 75th regiment - — Fort Beaufort : — Mounteil riflen - — 45 7 484 7 484 7 •.034 27 20 482 Total 2ad - •.7^ntlv numerous to afford itself protection from its own hotly, its peculiar interests should be entrusted to itself, without calling in the aid ;)- Why has that been done ?— Because the act was considered to be ob- jcctK.imbic m nmny respects; the commando system being, us I have already stuteil, liable to great abuse. ' •' o.i- 03 1754. Waa 102 IVIINUTKS OF EVIDENCE BEFOUE SELECT COMMITTEE /{. IK llav, I'.sq. l;) May 1834. 1 754. '.V'lis not the efVect of tlie cuiimiando system, as it was carried on, to per- pctuali; tlic iireilutory wtui'are hotuecn llie Imrj^heis and tlitnu-if'lilmiirinjj tribes, wiiicli It'll to the most unrestrained l)Hrbiiritifs on the one side and the oilier i — It certainly had the ell'cct of ajigruvatini^ the evil. 1 7.53. is there any proposition now under the consideration of CJovernment for the increase of the colonial corps? — 'Ihe Secretary at War has lately brought under tiie consideration of the Secretary of State, a proposition from Sir Lowry Cole for increasing the existing establishment of the Cape corps, the elfeet of which, it bus been calculated, will Ik) as follows : Present FiStabliahnicnt : Horses - . . . Officers - . . . , Noii-oonimisRioned ollicers, &c. ■ Uunk and (ile - - - . •200 '4 81 234 All ranks - . . ^(tQ Horse Proposed Establishment . Officers - - - . Non-eomniissioned officers, Sic. Itnnk and tile • - . All ranks - 34" 40 ;)8() - - 44'^ Present Charge :] For pay - - - rations forage £. s. - 7.H(i8 - y()2 10 - 2.305 15 £.11,130 5 Add proposed new Charge: For pay ----- 5,000 - rations - - - - (ily - forage - - - - l.(il4 fl Total future Charge i". i8,3()() 10 To which add, lor cost of addi- tional horses and for bounty money - - - - f.^.ooo - 17.5(1. Is there not a proposal to increase the pay?— No, I think not. Unt pro- positions liavc boon made for granting certain additional advantages to the men, of the nature of bounty and rations, for an extiii number of wives and eliiltben. 17;)7. liow is it proposed that these expenses shall be defrayed? — When it can bear ii, by the colony itself, but in the mean time it must be borne by the mother country. I7.'-,S. Von have stated the Capp was captured a second time in 1806, and that the amount of the Ihitisii force employeil on that occasion was 5,(>(H) men; did they meet «ilh much resistance on the part of the Dutch garrison at that lime /— 1 do not remember the exact circumstances of the capture, but I believe that the Dutch sulfered considerably in conseipicnce of the rcsistuuce they made. 1 7,')(). Is not the coast, generally speaking, a ditlicult one to lanil troops on ? — Ves, 1 believe it is. 17(10. With the exception of one or two points, is it not almost inaccessible? — I should not think it was inaccessible to that degree ; but 1 have no local know- ledge on this subject. 17(11. When Sir .lames Craig con>i'2S us being necessary for the (kl'eiicc of tiiC coiuiiv, he took into consideration the circumstance of our being at war uith France ami Holland, and also the ciicumslance that the population «as decidedly hostile to the Itritisli Covernment, did he not: — Those were the circum- slances under which he wrote. 17(1-2. .\nd not only were the population hostile, but they were all armed.'- — Tiie inhabitants of Cape Town are so ilescribed in the despatch from which I have read an extract. 17(1,5. !)*> yon mean to say the peojile were hostile? — Sir James Cnug states that •• the luirglieis of the country uould join a French force, while those ot the town would give lis no assistance.'' 1 7t''4. What is the disposition of the inhabitants towards this country at present ? — Kxtremely will disposed, I fancy. I7()5. Do you not imagine that, in the event of any attack on the part of France or Russia, they woulil co-upcrate in the defence of the colony? — I have no doubt tluy would. I7i'(i. Is there any militia "--'Hie burgher force has been occasionally lallcil out on the Ironlier, and in general they hav(! behaved extremely well, as may be gathered Irom a iies|)atcli ol Lord Charles .Sonietset's, of which 1 will give ail extract ; but it is fair to add, that ihey have occasionally been worsted iu their occa- sional ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 103 sionul conflicts witli tiic most warlike of tlie tribes who liavc crossed the frontier. R. W Hm, Ew and iiave sutlcred severely. ______ IFMract given in.] 13 May 1834. EXTRACT of a DESPATCH fro,,, the (iovernor of the Cape to Karl nmhunt. dated i,-; Octoher iHij). 1 II AVE ill the meanwhile (jivon directions for diBlmndinf? the hurgher force Worn out by incesHrtiit futiguo, having been for many monthH .-xposed to nil the sevcntv of a most inclement HeuHon, nearly all diHmountod, the (rffutcr part -.f ti.eir horses havin.' DeriHhed. this tine body of men had become most anxious for rejwhe, and haviiic elfcctfd with the u..atest reir.ilanty bravery and patience, the object for which they hr.l been called out 1 was not a little pleased that the time was come when I might safely send them to their homns. should be wanting 111 an essential duty if I ,li,l not endeavour to impress upon your Lordship the merits and value of the burgher force of this colony ; near i 000 (.n this occasion have been 111 the field (or seven months, mounted and efi,iip|)ed at their own expense, and without pay. and having found themselves in six months 'provisions Thev have, in this time, lost near tlir<*-fourthH of their horses, and have submitted to every privation, even to the want of shoes and clothes, without a murmur. 1767.^ Projnbly from their not beinj? .so Imhituuled to this irregular sort of wurtarc ? — 'ihey are fanners employed in their own oecuptitions, to whom it is a great inconvenience and loss to be culled out for military purpo.ses. i7(i8. Then when you .state the opinion of Sir .lames Crnig, the circumstances under whieii that o|)inion was ^iven are so entirely (lillerent from those existing at present, that the Comnnttee are not to form any judj^ment from that statement? —I should scarcely think that u fair inference ; for thoucrh it is true that circum- stances are greatly alt<:rcd by the cessation of hostilities, and by the improved disposition ol the inhabitants towards this country, yet that hivourable posture of affairs may any day be changed, and it would therefore appear that Sir .Fas. Craic's opinions in regard to the force reipiired to maintain possession of the colony ought not to be lost sight of, especially when it is considered how small is the number of troops employed at the Cape. i7(i(). When Sir James Craig considered .',028 troops as being no more than were re(|uire(l for the defence of the garrisn:., did he not, in addition to any aiipre- hensions to be entertained as against France and Hollaii'l, take into calculation ahso the decided hostility of (he inliuhitaiits towards the Ikitish (iovernmcnt ?— lie states that they were not well all'ected to the Hritish (Jovernment in general. 1770. You were understood to say the Cape corjis was composed of -joo men ? —I stated that it was fixed at that establishment by instructions from the late Lord Liverpool, in iSio. 1771. Would it he practicable to establish a sort of local militia on the frontier when called out ? — When tiie buigheis have been called out their levy lia.s resembled very much, 1 apprehend, this description of force. 1772. Hut if (hey were more organized and placed under officcri .'—That would be very iimrh wiiat the Cajie cor|)s now is. 1773- I' when called out into active service there should he active oOicers paid by the government f The Cape corps is paid by the government at present. The burghers also receive a certain pay and allowances whenever they are called out. 1774. What is the extent of the free white population now. at the Cape ?~ Ninety-two thousand .seven lunulred and fifteen. '77.')- ^Vill you state the .salaries and allowances of the governors of the Cape from its capture to the piesdit time I.'— In 17.),';, General Craig was allowed to draw the same amount ..1 .salary which had been enjoyed by his predecessor, the IJutcn governor ; but it does not appear what the amount was. In I7,)7, Lord Macartney was appointed governor and commander-in-chief, with a salary of lo.oou^ and a table allowance of -.ooo /. Hu was also allowed two colonial nHles-de-can.p. In 17.,,,, Sir George Vonge was appointed governor and com- maiuler-in-chief, with a salary of 10,000/. per annum. In 1801, Sir (kon'e \onge was dnecled to resign the government into the iiands of Lieut.-.'enend lhnuh,^, WHO admniKsttrcd as rnul.-guvernor until the colony was restored in 180.5 to Hoi and. In iSot year. " ' 1 782. Does this {handing a paper to l/ie witness) specify the amount of the gar- rison under your coniiiiaiul during those years?— 1 sliould' think it is correct, but I cannot say exactly. There were three battalions there and the Cajie corps ' 1783. Can you state ^.!lat was the distribution of the force at the Cape? Two battalions were always kept at Ca|)e Tovmi, with a detached com|)any at Simon's Town, and other small detachmenls as gimrds on convicts at work on the Simon's Town road, and at Robben Island. 'Ihere was anotiier battalion at Graham's Town, near the frontier. Of this battalion there is a company generally at Algoa Bay and a company also at Fort Wiltshire, which is on the Keiskanmw River, on the frontier line, to the north-east of Graham's Town. ^ 1784. What is the distance from Cape Town to Graham's Town ?— About 600 English miles. 1785. From Cape Town to Simons Town?— Twenty-two miles; Simon's Town ii tlie naval arsenal. J 786. What • It »aa originally intended tbat be should command the eastern division of the colony. ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. ic; 1786. What is tlic total lenutli of Hi« frr.nf:«..- f. • l the Kmkam,„aby land to Cape Town *^'°"'"^'-'-" » «bout 700 miles fron, extrlml-eSlTcT' "" '" ''^" ^'''"""' "^^^ "'" "^ -'-X' -^ Keiskamma to th., ja^^.:::;:^;^:^;:a^-tr:;;£^^^^ 1 shcuM suppose, not less than i ,oo(. miles " • — 1 hat would give you. «l.«ati«Bloo,dj o„ the sulliecl ^ ""' ^°° '" """ '"'I"- I «■» men. lurter — aix companies; about 480 I'-of Wi''".' '' 'If ^^"r '^"H'sf-Only three companies of 80 CaffVe tribes; fronV^^L t ^ o^ ^ K? r" H '' "Tl'"' "■■" ^^''^^''^ '-•""^<' ^he the line is bordered Vy the Sl^s '^""' '" ""= '""""' "* "'« Keiskamma -an^ (..;.^r \W .r K-^^^^^^ «" ^^ the 130 £afp'^;!-t bit r s.r '^- ^^'- - -^ ----- --arhke tribe, and the onl, ones ^ho ..a^'^^^e;;:^^^^ ^ ^ iHuc not free uc"u^adctuLfs'?"'?l'' " "'"'^'•f''!"! "'"t the other tribes doe. not re ule a w' '"'""V" "^'^"•""y. ""at their neighbourhood Tan,booki ; le b e i. , ' T ^"^ '.Hhspensabiy necessary :-Tli; tribes o l-ave been driva. n ,^.ces47 SL 7 ''•'"''"'''' ".^•'''''l'"^"^ ^■^ccpt when they colony';-Itlu.slK.ppn::\.'^iv a ^Zir^^^ '"","'"' i'^"'^ '" ""= was the case «ith the 'innibcokies u't, I V' '' ,"'"'■"'''' "^ '''^" ^"1'^' tl''s chiel called Maeon.o • an h,t , )' 1,, ' ''T '''''^"" '" '^ " <^-"«'''' "i''^'. ""'in' a (J-iquas ; ,1,, (; ",; ""; , , ) ''^'^' '"':*-' ^'''^^'l ■^"-'veral n.roads .Vo.n the bastard - ■ -Vucwr r;, '^'^:' 'T ""i'^V. ^nbes. one under Adam Kok, one iS( \ fron iiibifed bv la ou .stated III Ikt under Uarend liurer.d 1 want of » liter and pasti jtjiiji times tii't se. lie year u," farmers were to pas.s the boundarv, bui that tl I ''^04. "Has ti I cs ; mid us lar as the i^overnment I ere intervene between the district irilie.s.-- 0,25. leei) any arrangement bv whirl compelled, lis is stnetlv pro- fan do, they are pre\en"ted a neutral district should Tl lerc H s reconnizcd as the colony and those of the adj as in the treaty between Lord Charles Somerset and the Call omm< Ires; Cien. the Hon. Sir l.oviry Cale. «3 May 1834. that »>»<««<*■<"■■■• I loC) MINUTES OF EVIDF.NCE HEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE GcD.tlir Hon. that tfRCt of land which hes hetween the sources of the Kat River and the Keia- Sir i-oiii_yCo/<. kuiiima, uiid the (ircat Fish River, u dihtrict called neutral uround ; but us the Curtres did not understand why ground should remain unoccupied, they passed 13 May 1834. jin, (joundarici (and, as I think, imprudently) ; so long as they remained quiet, they were allowed to remain unmolested. Afterwards Macomo, who was settled on the sources of the Kat Uivir, made an incuision upon the Tamhookie trihes, and drove them into the colony. I sent to him, in consequence, to say that as he was only there oti sulVerancc, if he did not make restitution to llic Tamhookies, whom he had deprived of all their ''atlle, I would drive him out of that part of the neutral ground he occupied ; anti as lie did not comply with my desire, i kept my word, and located a number of Hottentots in that district. 180,-,. Is the Connnittee to understand that you have found it impossible to prevent the farmers from making unauthorized incursions upon the neutral grounti, and upon the territory of the adjoining tribes, in search of water? — In the neutral ground they very seldom went ; they only went to that part innnediately in con- nexion with the (iriquas. 1806. Along this frontier of /joo miles adjoining to the Catl'res and Tamhookies, and the Griquas, what is the state of cultivation, and what is the density of the population ?— I cannot exactly say the density, but it is very small in proportion to the extent ; perhaps a man iii a farm may have from to.ooo or i.'i.ooo to 20,000 acres ; and, owing to the want of water, there are not in iJiat more than 100 acres of arable land. 1 S07. Vou state, that a very small quantity of land, owing to the want of water, is capable of cultivation ? — That is throughout the colony. 1808. Of course incursions occasionally take place from tlic neighbouring tribes, for the purpose of depredation ? — Yes ; when I was there, there was generally a loss, from Caffre depredation, of between 4,000 and 5,000 head of cattle yearly by the neighbouring farmers. i8o(). What is the course taken for the prevention of this loss, and for the pro- tection of the iniiabilants along tlie frontier? — These depredations which 1 have slated are u|)on the frontier, between the Kat River and along the Kciskammtt. There are live posts, one at the Kat River, one at Fort Beaufort, one at Fort Wiltshire, one below that, the name of which I forget, and one at Caftre Drift. 1810. When you speak of posts, you mean military posts? — Military posts; that is to say, they are detachments, and they have relation to the situation of the water. 181 1. What is the average distance from one jwst to an'^'^'er '— I supjTOse the average distance may he from 20 to _'.", miles. 181a. What does the detachment stationed at each post consist of? — There is a company of infantry at Fort V\"iltshire. 1813. is Fort Wiltshire the most northern of the posts? — It is on the centre, where tlie frontier breaks off from Keiskamma towards the sources ot the Kat River. At Fort Wiltshire there is a detachment of the I'ape corps, and a company of infantry. Fort Reaufort is the head-(|uarters of the Cape corps, and there are an otUcer and 2/5 or 30 men generally at the other posts. 1814. What extent of frontier are the n.ounted Cape corps supposed to cover, according to their general distribution? — About too miles. i8if,. There is one cocnpany of infantry, and 226 of the Cape corps? — There are snndl intermediate delachmeuts between them and Grahams Town, hut those are changed frequently. i8lt>. There is no niilitary force whatever, tlien, along the 300 or 400 miles of the north-eastern frontier? — '1 here is no force nearer than Grahams Town, which is the head-quarters of the infantry battalion ; except that, there is no military force whatever. 1817. Now do you conceive that, even for the protection of that 100 miles of frontier, under the circumstances you describe, the present amount of the Cape corps is sufficient?— I do not; I think the duty required at present is too severe upon them. 1S18. Do you conceive that, for the nature of the service which they have to jjcrlorm, the Cape corps is as well or belter adapted as a British force would be? — iklter. i8i(). What has been the general conduct of the Cape corps, as far as you have had an opporUinity of observing it ? — Extremely good. 1820. W litre there is no regular force established, what is the system of mutual protection to which the burghers have been compelled to resort, and how tar is that sanctioned ON MILITARY ESTAliLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. .07 SBiiclionetl mid remiluled hy luwP— In those purts where the Cupe cor|.s iire, when a man loi-cs his cattle he goes to the nearest post where there is an orticer ; that officer iininediately sends out a patrol, and they follow the spar (or the track) (the Cape corps are singularly clever in tracing cattle or men), till they come up with thcin, or to some kraal (villajjLs) helonKinj^ to the Caffies ; then their directions are immedmtelv to call upon the chief belonuiuR to that kraal to ^ive up the cattle. It frequently, however, liappcns that the cattle are driven on further, hut the patrol IS dnected not to pursue them fintlicr than the first kraal, unless they come in view of them, or learn exactly uhere they are. 1S21. Is this system, when earned on by the Cape corps, understood and acted on by the Caffre tribes in general r— It i.s not always so, but latterly it ha.s been more so than it used formerly to be. iSji. Along the frontier where there are no troops, in what manner is the reco- very ot any .stolen cattle obtained ?— The boor, if he has any force of his own, fol- lows them without delay, or he collects as many of his friends as he can, and if he finds himself strong enough, retakes the cattle ; or they apply to the field-cornet, who is himself a boor, only of rather a su()erior class, and possessed of more intelli- gence, who has the power of calling out the farmers of his district, and they follow the cattle as far as they can, and endeavour to retake them ; but if they have a large force to encounter they apply to the jirincipal authorities, and if a still larger force IS necessary the application comes to liead.f|uarters, and the necessity of the case is judged of from the report, and a commando ordered. 1823. Are the field-cornets officers who are responsible and actinff under the authority of government?— They are. 1824. Of course it is impossible to transmit any account to government or obtam any authority previously to entering upon the exi)editio!i for the recovery ofthe stolen cattle?— It is impossible; the distance is too great, perhaps ,500 or 600 mdes from Cape Town, and there is only a weekly post of communication. 1 825. Is a re|)ort sent up to government by the field-cornet, upon his resrwn- sibility, of every attempt which is made on the part of tiie boors within his district for the recovery of any property that may have ()6en stolen from them ?— The field- cornet makes a report to the civil commissioner or principal functionary of the district, and from him a regular report of the whole, as far as he can give it is made to the government. ' i82(i. Are the boors authorized to enter into the neighbouring territory for the recovery ot their property, without application being previously made to the field- cornet.- — They are not; it is contrary to their orders. 1827. lu point of fact, have they not frequently made these incursions without having any communication witii the field-cornet?— In point of fact they have done so; the only civil authority they have uiwn that frontier is 100 or X'io miles from It. 1828. Now, in these unauthorized expeditions for the purpose of recovering pro- perty, have you reason to believe that on many occasions great inhumanity and great barbarity have been practised ?— Not on the part of the boors; there have occasionally occurred instances of this nature, but generally speaking, I should say not. 1 829. You stated just now that on application being made to head-tpiarters, where the incursions had l>een serious, a commando vas sometimes ordered ; state what is meant by a commando, and under what authority and under what regulations that species of expedition is carried on - — During the time I was there It was always either under the military commander, or, in the district of Grail" Reinet, under the innnediate authority of the civil commissioner. 1830. What was the object of a commando?— The last commando that was ordered by me took place in the district of (iraff Reinet ; it was in consequence of 200 or joo of the Coronnas and Hariend tribes having come into the colony, and murdered almost the whole of two farmers' families, and taken 4,000 or' 5,000 .sheep and head ot cattle. 1 8;} I. The object of a commando is not the recovery of the stolen property, but It IS a hostile attack upon the neighbouring tribe in retaliation?- Also for the recovery ui lite property if you cm cuine up «itli it, and with a view to deter them from ntakinj; similar attacks, otherwise it should be understood no boor, living at the distance they live from one another, could exist with any safety ; ihey would not be sate if these people were not by fear, or by some other means, deterred from coming into tlic colony. "•^5- 1.3 i8,{2. When (i«n, the lion. Sir Lovrif Cok. 1,3 May 1834. I io8 MINUTES OF F.VIDENCE DEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE G»n. tlio Mnii. Sir Im-xti) Cnlf. • « May i8,)4. M,\ y '■" ** '■""""«'"'<• '••* ""IcreJ, .,tutc the step« taken an.l the mo.lc i.i «^ uch the «..c. Ks m..stcre.l. h.uI « hut in the or.linarv co!.r«c of ,.,,emti. h P-Thc« a. ,el,|.cornet,s. who are (each in his .li.trict or field-con.eL) a ort of m^ ^clatter are instructed to direct the fiehi-cornet. .uuler then, to as" rt he is canedn 'com.n.ul ' "'^ "'""" "* «"'"« ""' ''^ '"^ ^ ^"«-V -'" ^ that i, wi.al the'XnV,aM!l''i not ""t,w""^ r^''^^ """"""y *"'""'"""'« """-'i'^tdy fron. »«t '^uch an expeditio.. is cond.icted uith CeSuly ' ■■■ '■'«"''"■ '"''""'"y di''«--ip'i"e, and by military troops ?- Field^orn^eisthl!''" "l"'"""" °^" "."^ ''"''^« ""^ appointment of lieUI-comets r- liUd-cornets aic the only means ot connnu.iicatinir ulj orders f.o.n aovernment , S ,? A !. '"-'"^V""^ "" c""'m""iciite.l to the country. 1H3«- Are they selected l,y the fjovcrnment P-They arc always recomme.uled superior cLs'^ll[.v 'rr ?'"' "'" l'"^ "ot?-Ves, and thev are j;eneral!y of a superior class , they arc chosen as ben.g the n.ost intelligent men in the nci.|.ho..r- i«40. Do you conceive it wo.ild be desiiahle that the colonial corns should hi. ™e''of''it'"'rr'''7' '"";' .''."""'' "^' ^""'--'y t r i ' orce stationed ,n the eastern p.ovince? -I should not think it ,u,uKI he des .ahle ::^'s^i ;:h:i:':::r:':;j:.;;^c;;;s ir '"^ """'"" "^ • ^■""^ -•• ^^'•"•'"' "-' '»'«> Srforce n lof- " '^^^ K'v..,« greater contidcce to the colo- nia lorce, and also for the protection ot the eastern provi.ice?— I should think so • I .should he very soiry to withdraw the.... -i snouid tlunk so, eacli oUier 'h ZldV^'. ""''^^'•'.\ f """"r"!' """I's ''^-inj; m, widely ren.oved from shnf . n, f . . ' ^'^ posMhh; to re.nfo.ce the eastern province within any W t . Zl. ''L*"r "' "r^'""-'-'!-"- -'y "-«'<' i" wl' icl. you CO 11 rein! on the colonial corps, with the .sn.all British n.ilitary force Lw id. vuumve ^o:tjZ^TT ""■ '•"""' ^^f" "^^•'-''-'i"^ it partly b • the'" , S lorps and partiy hy the ope.at.on of the co.na.a.ido system P-'l say if vou do Jiic.oase of force ..eccssary, I should say no." t.xptnse of the I do not th.nk tl,e.e were more than three co.nmandos ordered. ^ ' It . T, ,"" '". ""'/t''""'' "" ""-• ^•"'"'""'■•^ »'«' '^"^i""'^" thev n,ct " tt V ;;";:: iir ';rt;^!r;iii£.. • •'- ■- ^^"-^ ^'-^ -^ -A-a^e r-iSi lriv't!'l.;!;.„^lT/'i''' ?"' '.'"' 'r "*' ''''-' "' "'^" •^H'e.- commandos ?-Thc,e may IS, o , ,i "' '?'; ^"^^ ^''^^^ '"'' ""' '"""""t I" '"«'-^- "'"» a very few ^ I .iJ:::e ::;\;;:^:;^ ::.^.:ri;„;s»" ^"^ '-^ -^ '- ^""^•- ""^•^- - -- «!.- you have the n.ea;;.; i? d^.g s^^ "'"•■^ '"""' "'""■ ""'""'>• "^''""'"^ I M.J. But do you conceive it would be desirable to insist on Ihce bei...' a n.ili- ^ .i ° tary tjen. the Hun. Sir Limry t'ltlr. 13 Mhv 1834. Oen. tbe Hon. Sir iMturv CoU. i3 May 1834. i:.,t no MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE tary officer to accompany and to have the command of every commando wliich ■ should take place?-! think so ; and I think he ought to he accompanied by reeular troops, however small the detachment might be. It is impossible to keep a parcel of boors or peasants in anything like regular order. 1 864. is not the commando system most injurious and burthensome to the boors trom their being obliged to leave their agriculture standing still, and their houses and tamihcs unprotected in their absence ?— Unquestionably. icSO.l Do you recollect the substance of a treaty between Sir Rufanc Donkin and Uaika m 1821, on the subject of occupying the neutral teiTitory of which vou have spoken ?— I do not recollect that particular one. 1 86(i. Do you know anything of a fair established on the frontier, at the time the treaty before alluded to was made, or is that fair discontinued ?— The fair is still continued ; but no cattle come there at present ; the traders go across the irontiers and trade separately. 1 807. How many companies are stationed at Graham's Town ?— Graham's Town IS the l.cad-quarters of a battalion of six companies ; one company is stationed at Algoa Bay, one at I ort Wiltshire, and there may be another company in smaller detachments occasionally : and according to the extent of the depredations com- mitted by the (artres, which in some winters exceed others, there are additional detnchmcnts sent our. 1868 There are about three or four companies?— Generally about three com- panies, I should say, stationed at Grahams Town. i86(). Are there any field works at Graham's Town for the defence of the town ni case of an attack ?— None. 1870. Are the means of annoyance on the part of the inhabitants so trifling that they do not deem it necessary to erect the works?— The only fort there is, is that erected by .Sir Rufane Donkin, at Fort Wiltshire. The post at Caff-re Drift was stockaded. 1871. Yo. stated that Graham's Town was once nearly carried by the Caftres? — It was. •' 1 872. Have there been no stockades or defences erected in consequence of that ' — No, It was considered too expensive. 1873. Are infantry ever employed in the pursuit of the Claffres when any depre- dations have taken place :— Infantry are sent immediately into those districts but they cannot pursue them long ; a>British soldier would be encumbered too much to come u|) with them. 1874. It is the nsountcd Cape corps on which the colonists mainly rely for defence r — For the recovery ol their cattle. ' " 187,'; If the Cape corps were increased very considerably, might not a portion ot the battalion now stationed on that frontier l>e dispensed with :- -Thev might perhaps, a portion ot them, but I do not see what yon would gain by that.' ' 1876 Not a more efficient force ?— I should say it would he still desirable to have a battalion ; for at a distance of 600 miles, if you separate a regiment it is always injurious to the corps. 1877. If the commando system should be entirely put an end to, would not the expense of d.'fend.ng the frontier be increased beyond any power of immediate calculation. ^(>t course. There is one thing to be taken into consideration, the feeding of the troops at the Cape is trifling; I think the contract for meat was under tliree farthings a pound when I left ; bread there is more expensive than it is at Cape lown. 187S Would it not be necessary, in the event of the commando system beinji abolished, considerably to increase the number of riflemen ?-\'erv considerably and 1 could not say to what extent. i87'> II the commando system is allowed to continue, would there be any ne- cessity, do you think, for increasl -g the amount of the Cape corps ?— I think it would be (lesirahle to increase it ; I think they are too hard worked ; you might •say that the Cape cor|)s at this moment are constantly in eam|)aign, and the Com- mittee .Mil judge that that i.s more than men ought to he re(|uired to do. 1880. Are the mounted Ca|)e corps ever assisted by the boors i'— Every coni- \t i!iLf.ii iilii^,. .... .1.,. <'..iv.... i: .: .„ : 1 . . . •' niaiido that takes place on the Ciitlre frontier !s aiwuvs arc!!!!! >i»tiird by troops It IS (Hiiv to increase the for.e that the commandos are called out in thai district when It IS c.insidered desirahlo in order to prevent bloodsiied. because by huvinJ an iinposmg toice there is the less chance of resistance being made. 1881. Vou liave stated that three or lour commandos Imve taken place while you were in command at the Cape.'— I tliink not more than three or four. 1882. Were ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. n, 1882. Were those commandos accompanied bv the Cape corps ?~No, the last frontien " "' ''' '"'P' "'"' ""' "'^'''" '"« °'- 30« '"iles of tiiat 1883. But the othert were?— The others wert. ti.r'w ;h^° ^°" ^'""^ ''""^"^'■^ "•^''^ stationed at different points along thefron- ^thZ^U '"""^T organizmg and commanding these boors, that The boors, TronS- V.'h ^"^ "^ '^' ""'""''y' """^' '" '^ great degree defend their own he r^ n ' . >r *■' r^"' '°'?.-^'''"' "^ '^'**""'"- '^'''^ K^"^'™' >•"" "f 'I f^rm in tiuZV r' "1 " ' •' ^"''^ .^"'"'='' '' ^'■'^"' •5'"«" ^"6,00,, acres, and many 01 tnern are tuo or three times as large. ^ 'Sn^- V'^ *"ainison that frontier ?— Yes, and also in the interior colonisu/'i!-'"'^ of late years that tiieCiriquas have eon.e in contact with the J?m ~ ' "\'"'^y':^''«- .^^"t ^h^y «••« increasing and becoming more loimidable every year; tlie missionaries have got anion" them 1 887. ^\ hat do you consider to have been the ettbct of that r-lt lias aiven thc-m more importance in their o« n estimation ; and many of the missionarie" are Z7rTr' """ ""'.'* '"V'^'.'' "" "-'"'""y ""'^ '"^'"de the Griquas territory in it, aulority o-"trm. ''""'"^'' '"' "'^^^'^ '^^^ ^ should\ave the su^eme 1 888 Is it from the pr-ssuie of other tribes from tiie north, or from the increase :; tKrrtIe"rr"'T- '" '''^""' f '" '""^ """'^"'^ "^^"- --'"8 -^ '"'^ "S a Llvnh!.rH '.''""''=. '^'''■' '' "" 8"^^^ ^"'^"t °f <^o»"trv which is not actually inhabited but by wandering tribes, and then the two conie'in contact. i«N). Has the colony been much extended since it came into our possession?— SZ^'cSiily." "'"'' "' ^''"'^ ""^' '""^•'•^^'' I ^'^l--' ^"' ' ^>" -'-'« of iSn?" A •' ""''■"'.''■d ''"•g^'- P'-obably ?-Not so much ; perhaps half that. derived f.^m \hT' .'" ^'''"'' ?'?'°"' ^^ f'"""""' °'' <^'>n""tTcial advantages to be deiived f.om the extension of the colony, in comparison with the difficulties we have to encounter on the score of expense, and so on?-i think it may be fou d necessary to extend still further. ^ 1892. But you are asked as to the augmentation that has already taken place? ;i;ie ,; I '-fr ;'"''"? '"" '"''^ '^ '"''""'■ ^^ consi.lerably ; they have a con idep- the C'affies "" ""■"' ""''^ "" '"'"'"''-"^ '"^'' «"'' ''"^^ '™^ '« <^i^ili^ing .„n.^^^' ^°. ^°" !:'"?'' *''^''*' "'■'^ *"y ^'•''antages which counterbalance the disad- vantages un«ler which we labour from the increase of our colony r-There are di.sadvantages arising fiom the ,K)verty of the place \n r iti, I ^''^" '■ ">' *?"•' '""'y "'"^^ '" '""^««^ ">« '^"Pense of this colony ?~ INo I thmk not ; it might lessen it in some respects. ^ I Sp,5. Arc we not obliged to keep up a larger force?— Yes, at some parts • but jou ha ve made the settlement, and of course yon cannot now 'abandon it I IhS h .1 i ,w"7 ' ""'. ^'°" '""'.' ^'^"^'^ '"""^ *" '"'"^' »''"' '♦■ »^'"« «'e already in ;n?;ieJ!::t;;sj;:;trrS'^^ ''°"" ' '° ^°" ''-' '"" ^"^"^"" ""«'>^ r,.li?l'"' i""" "'""^' "'^''^' '" '''•' ""''' "'•'^ ^'^*-' '"'■" "^ ^eil?-! should say, gene- ;; !i .rl;;Stt ::" ""^ ''"^' "'^ ^ '"•"' '""^ *" ^""^ "^ p-- ^»^"^ '-^' -"'^ i8()S Would it not be possible to reduce in some degree tlie guards ?— The guanls have in all cases been reduced as much a. possible. ^ i^Qp. Are there any guaiiisof mere parade there ?— None. ^toIesT" v'"" ".""■l"/"'^'-^ ""7 "re absolutely necessary forihe protection of blores r— 1 es, and tor the prevention of smuggling. Jpoi. Are there many troops employed In the prevention of smuggling r-Onlv he guards at the d.tle.ent lauding pl.ces in Cape Toun. It wafat oueVime ensnf, ! h i^ '° ^"'"''" '"""-' *" ^''""' '•"' representations were made by the I ^hnnl.i u, I, . • .•'••'.-F-'''';^ ii.CK.i.-od m cunsCT utiicc. There is one poiul fi iV *^"'' "" "'"'"'"' ">'"" • '"^""""'^ 'r"**" i^ t''^' *>n. a war broke out «t v,u..l(i bt liable to be destroy.-d at any time bv a lew of the enemy's ships of war. lyo... Would you not Ik; able to protect it by a garrison from the Cape ?-The *" 4 enemy Gen. the Hon. Sir Loivry Cole. 13 May 18:14. (•(11. ihe Hon. ^ir iMi-rtj Cole. 1 3 >T:iT 1834. 112 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE enemy might destroy tlie stores before troops could arrive from Cape Town. Simon's Town is 22 miles from the Cape. i()0,3. There are some troops at Simon's Town, are there not? — There is always a company there, but that would not be sufficient for the defence of it against a superior force. '^ I ()()4. Would it not be very practicable, in the event of war breaking out between this and any other country, to fortify Simon's Town l)efore any incursion could possibly take place.'— No ; if it remains in the state it is in at present, and if yo 1 were at war, you could nut keep less than .500 or 600 men t'lere for the protection ot it, imless you lunl a naval force. 1 90.';. Do you think there is any nation, except France, or the United States, from whom we should have anything to apprehend for it ?— No ; this is, however, a mere matter of opinion. H)o6. Is there any force at Saldanha Bay ?— No. itjo-. What force would you consider sufficient to defend Simon's Town?— It i.s not desirable to station there a iifVicient force to protect it; because, suppose the French w-ere to come with the inlention of taking the colony, from the situation of Simon's Town, they could cut off the communication between that place (it being on a narrow neck of land) and Cape Town, and prevent the escape of the battalion stationed there. i()08. Now, supposing the enemy to be in possession of Simon's Town, are there any works at Cape Town towards the interior?— Almost all the works at Cape Town are towards the inteiior except the sea defences. 1909. Cape Town would be defensible? — It can only be considered as an entrenched camp ; the Dutch did not attempt to defend it after thev were beaten in the field. ^ 1910. Is there not a castle ?— Yes ; but it is commanded within a short distance. It was built soon after the Dutch first took possession of the Cape. The mountain comes very close to it, and descends gradually down to the fort. 1911. Were you at the second ca|)ture of the (^ape ? — At neither. 1912. What is the state of discipline of the Cape corps?— It is in very "ood discipline. " 191.3. 'J'hey were in a very bad state of discipline some years ago, when the regiment was considered as a mere stepping-stone of promotion, were they not? — I have npv'er known them to be so. 1914. Do you think they may be compared with the British battalion in point of discipline?— Yes, for the nat\ire of the duties they have to perform; they are not, however, in the same high state of discipline, and it would be impossible to make them so, from the constant harassing fatigue they undergo. 191,-,. Do the means e.\ist of raising a battalion of white infantry at the Cape? — Certainly not. ujU). Are there any militia enrolled there ?— No, there are the commandos; every boor is liable to be called out ; and, in fact, during Lord Charles Somerset's administration tliere were men from the Cape and neighbouring districts c-illtd out on commando, and marched as far as (Jraham's Town. 1917. When they are called out do they receive pay? — No, they do not. 191 S. Would it not be advisable, do you think, to organize a iiiilitia to act for the (k fence of the colony against an enemy ?— I do not think it iiossihle ; the boors are .scattered over too great a space. 1919. -Are they not more coiiecntrated in the neighbourhood of Cape Town? — Yes, tliaii in the nortiieni and norlh-eastern district^. 1920. Would it not be possible, in the event of a war, to raise a battalion near Cape T0H11-— You miglit call them out, and tiiey would act for the occasion, and act surviceably, beiiii; mounted, and good marksmen ; many of them were employed against us by the Dutch. 1921. Could you raise a battalion of Hottentots, in addition to the Cape corps? --I think you might do so, certainly, by giving bounties; but I think you would find some difriculiy even in doing that. 1922. Suppose that to be done, could they not be employed in mounting guard with the Jkitish troops at Cape Town?— Yes ; but I do not conceive you would gain anything by that. !'j2:J. Do yi!!! ihiiik. i! ;: hiittiiiion were nii-ul for service at the ( ape, co^.^i^litig ot Ihilish s(4dier.s liiere, that corps would be ecjually ellicieiit with any regiment \ou miglit send out from this country ?— Certainly not. 1 do not think a Liilish regiment, I own. ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 1,3 regiment if you stationed them ionj; anywhere, would continue to be efficient- to our SiTr '"" "'""'"'^ ''''°"' '' ""'' "^ '''^ ^*''""' **"" S'"" '^'^ ^'^'^^ superiority 1924. lluw long do tiiey remain ?-Ten or twelve years, or even more, on some selu on lo'lndia '^ ^'''''' '"''' ''" "^ "''"'" ^'"'''' ""' "'"y '^^^^ ^'^^^"° '^^'=" 192.5. 1)0 you not think a reghnent would become us much demoralized in 12 listlli ^'^'"''' ''' '" '' ''''"'''"" "'"'"" ' ^''*' ''^'''''"' »''' ""*"'''"'' '"'"^ g™^ 1926. Is not that the ca.se with a regiment stationed at a place 1 2 or 14 years ? — 1 es ; but then on conimg home numbers quit the service, which they would not uo it the regmient remamed stationary. 1927. But supposing promotion to go on in the same manner as it does now and ofhccrs to be tranaterred to England, and constantly in a state of circulation ?— Many when they hnd themselves comfortable where they are stationed, will not leave the regiment. 1928. I3ut for promotion ?— But promotion is not so quick at present It is not so easily to be got; and when they come home, if they find they are liable to be knocked about, they quit the service, and you get rid of a great many useless and worn-out ofhcers m that way. b j 1929 Suppose 400 or /ioo more of the Cape corps were raised, might you not pany of so "' """f'' "' "" ^'"^^^ ' -^'"" ""^''^ ^iinnnisl/a com- 1930. Suppose half a regiment were stationed at Graham's Town, would you not employ the Cape cor|.s on the whole of the service on the frontier '—You nnght do so certainly, but I do not know what you would gain by 11 ; you could not send out halt a regiment from England. J ' .) " «-""'" i.);i. Suppose you iiad two regiments, and half a regiment was at Cape Town? — U hat IS to become ot the other half regiment? p w ". n,.;'!'?-; '^'•"^ '"!'! "'"'. ^ ^'f "''"» "'" 'lottentots might be employed with the Bnts,tn.opsatC>q,el own -Certainly they, night, there is no' question about .t but 1 do not thmk anything would be gained by it ; on the contrary, I think yu would lose .n your ef ective force. I .|o not think against the en^my you would have tlie same etleclive force. - ^ I9,]3. Have not the black troops been employed in the West Indies much to headvantageot the service .—Yes; the reason you employ black troops in the \\ est Indies is, that the climate is detriment;;! to European life. 1934. But have they not been found very etHcient soldiers in the field •^— I believe so ; but never to be compared with British soldiers. 19,5,-i. We are supposing ii time of profound peace, might not a battdion of Hot entots assist in garrisoning the Cape in time of peace .^- Yes ; but it is to be recolleete. that in the last war, during the whole of which I serveil, no youn-. regiment that I ever saw was what you would call serviceable under 'wo or tlire? }■*■"••'*• '''^''^- i^Veat expense and gre!" ss ot lite by It. Any person aaiuainted with military life knows the advantajre 01 the present .system ot having depot companies at home ; thai by havin.r a deoot a nucleus, you can make a battalion in a short time etlective, which if "yon form the Imttahon entirely new you could not do. ,i>,'J?^;.V"vr' T "?''"!''' r '■^•J^"n^'"t g»i"S ■ "• "■"'""'- '■'•^ *^^''""^^=* '"'• '• '^'^r'^i" P^'i^>'> I think (H-rposesof the commando .^-It would be quite impossible, Gci' llie Hon. Sir . jtt'/y Cull ijMay 1834. 0.2-,. F 'f U4 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Mart is, 3 die Junii, 1834. LORD VISCOUNT EBRINGTON, IN THE CHAIR. Colonel John Ikll, culled in ; and Examined. Colonel 7o/;n neli. '!'>9' ^^OW long were you at tlic Cupe of Good Hope r — Nearly 1 1 years. if)4i'- How lonj^ is it since you left the colony? — I left it in March 1S33. 3 June 1834. i!)4i- 111 "hat capacity were you there? — First in a military capacity, as deputy quartermaster-jreneral, for live years and a half. 1942. From what period to what period? — From my arrival in the colony in June 1822, to the 2()th of Decemher 1827. 1943' And in what capacity have you been theie latterly? — As civil secretary to the government. I ()44. From your long residence at the Cape, do you consider yourself com- petent to speak generally upon the actual state of the "colony and of the garrison? — I know a good deal about the state of the colony, but as to the garrison, I have not had occasion to know mucii about it lately. i()4,5. Is the general disposition ot the inhabitants favourable towards this country or not? — I am not quite sure that it is as favourable now as it was some years ago, but still 1 should be sorry to say it is unfavourable. i()4(). To wliat do you attribute their not being so friendly as they were some years ago .' — To the measures of the last few years, as affecting the value of their property in slaves, and to the laws in that respect. 1947. Hut still, do you think it |)rol)ab!e that they would bo likely to join an enemy's force if it was to land there? — I do not think tliey would, unless it were Dutch, and even then not in numbers ; they would otherwise probably remain neutral. I speak generally, and of the mass ')f the older colonists, not of recent settlers. 1948. Do you think it expedient to have a militia force at the Cape? — I doubt whether you would find a sullicienl number of free men, (it for military service, from which to form a militia force to any considerable extent in tlie w hole colony. 1949. Are they widely scattered ? — lliey are very widely scattered. 19,50. In case of invasion by an enemy, would not the inhabitants be available in defence of the colony :* — They might be made available in part, certainly; but I have said they would probably be neutral. H).-, I. It has been stated by a previous witness, that at tlie capture of the Cape in 179.), the amount of the Dutch garrison was 1,000 regulars and 2,500 militia; was that a levy en wtfi.sr ? — It must have been; they were then under the government of their mother-country. 1952. Arc you of opinion that tlie garrison at Cape T'-wn and the neighbour- hood is capable of reduction without danger to the colony : — I believe the garrison is weaker now than I ever knew it to have been. ^953- FaHng the colony generally, do you think no reduction of the military force could be made : — 1 fear none. 19,",4. Could not the amount of duties be reduced ? -I know they have been ; but I am not a«are they can be still further reduced, so us to require a garrison ol less strength than the present. lO.'ij. Canyon inform tlii' ('onunittce how nuuiy nights the men are in hcil in the garrison : — Some time ago I know tliey had very rarely three nights in bed. ^()!}C>. And you think, upon the whole, the garrison could not, consistently with the absolutoand necessary duties, be any furtlier reduced ? — I do not think it could be miilerialiy reduced. i9,-,7. Are you at all acquainted witii the frontier towards Graham's Town? — I have been on tlie eastern frontier, and know something of it. ■,S. Do von considci that the (.'ape mounted riHemen are an availaiile force ? 'L'.)' -As far as tiicy go ; and for the nature of their services, particularly so. i(»,-,ii. Mud 1 more so th n the inlantrv wou Id be in similar situations ? — Inlinitciy. 19IJ0. D'j ON MILITAIIV ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. ,,., c«;fc'„v;","';reZr„7 ir£Tt'„t;'itL:ri "■, f •"™»'?' .1.0' "^ie'^^f a; :* „^;:•tr j;^^r ;t T "' """^^^^^^^^^^^^^ requires ,,n udJilion of one com™, v alT™ ".',"""«. '■'"l"," •"" "l«l, and ?.z'Lri;ird,sts ssiST-iiL""- .-•--■'"•■■« «"= i9j'4- Do you think that is not more tlmn required ?-Xot more garrison does not exceed 700 men for duty ^ ""' '''''''"' ^BS!S ISFt =-— »f=^'^'» .be, possessed U, Si't ^rirc,;"*"' ""'""" "" ''" " ">' -'""J " 1908. Do you consider tlmt tlie necessity of an afnc(' forr^ ..t ,i,„ ..s--t:;:^t;r'^^:s^°re^^S;^ll/s,:;^»l,"- "niir/rj'-liir-,^:; ™i:t; """ " '^""""■■'""•"' "" "■' •"""■""- «'• >"•■ e;e^:;t!:':ir„s;"' ''"■''• """-^-^ '>"'"'^ ■'■■"'" .-.;?.u.™' ^ - if)7('. .\r..> iifi MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Co\onc\ John Dell. I97('). Are vou eiial)lc(l to sugj^est tiny improvement that can he made in the orpinization oV tlie mounted riflemen now employed lor the det'ence of the fron- 3 June 1834, tier? — I am not j)re|)ared to sugfjest any alteration, hecause that corps, in its pre- sent state, is well adapted for tlie purpose for which it was organized ; the outposts, I think, are well chosen, and I see no room for any beneficial alteration. i()77. Vou hold in your haiul a return of the pay, emoluments and salaries issued to officers of tlie military garrison, medical and jommissariat staff?— I do. 1978. The first otlice in that list is commandant of the frontier. What are the duties of commandant?— He i charged, under the orders of the Governor, with the defence of the whole frontier line where troops are employed, and is responsible for its safety and tranquillity, as well as the efliciency of the force under him. 1970. Is there not a British oflicer commanding the mounted riflemen besides? — There is, a major. i()8o. Has not the major ample power to act when called upon by the inhabit- ants", without reference to any superior authority ?— On particular and pixssing occasions onlv. i()8i. Hut" from the very nature of the incursions from without, is it not neces- sary", generally speaking, to act upon the spur of the moment, without the possi- bility "of having time to wait for instructions from a distance ?— In case of hostile or predatory incursions, or upon complaints and applications being made for the re-capture of stolen cattle or horses, for instance, then the commandant of any |)ost, of whatever rank, has jjower to act. i()S_'. is there not also an oft^cer,a lieutenant-colonel, commanding the battalion at (irahn Ill's Town ?— There is the commanding or senior officer of the battalion. i()S,5, He also. I presume, has authority to act in case of emergency without waitinsi for instructions from head-quarters or from a distance ?— That officer has no power so to act unless in a case of urgent necessity ; he receives his orders from the coinmimdant of the fro'nier. The officers commanding at the outposts have a certain discretion to act, according to circumstances, they being at a distance from their commandinsj officers as well as from the commandant of the frontier. 1084. Wiieretibouts are the head-quarters of the commandant?— -At Graham's Tovvn. loS.'-,. How far is that from the frontier?— Not many miles from the nearest part of the frontier ; ]') or 40 miles from Fish River. i()8("'. Is not the frontier, which is committetl to the custody of the mounted riflemen, of very considerable extent?— About loo miles at the very least. 1987. Upoirthe whole, do you think that such an officer as commandant of tiie frontier is ttbM)lutelv necessary"?— I do, for several reasons. i()SS. State those reasons"?-- Iking a permanent officer, he becomes better in- fornieil us to the actual .-tate, disposition and character of the native tribe> against whom he has to defend the colony, than any officer in mere tein|)orary command for a short period can weW be; and he is intimately aapiainted uilh the system of defence, as well as the country to he defended. ii)So. Does not the officer commanding the Cape corps po.ssess all those capu- |,iliti,>s>— He -"'ay, un.l perhaps does; but from his junior rank in the army lie is not coinpeK'nt to" take tlie eonnnand of the force on the frontier, consisting ol mixed troops. , . i,)(|(). In uhieh vou include, (.'course, the infantry at (.raliam s lown.'~lhe inlaiitrv at Grahani'.sTown ami the outposts, the artillery and engineer officers; the military departments are also, in a great niea.sure, umler the commandants orders. , 1991. May it not possibly occur tliat the otliccr comnianilmg Graham s lown mav be senior officer to the commandant of the frontier?— It may, certainly. i,)()2. In that ease what happens-— I believe the rank ol commandant of the froniier liold> uood against the rank of any senior oflicer who happens to lu ,)re- -eiit, in the same way as the rank of eoiiimandanl of a fortress. It ir. held under the King's eoinmission. KlUj. .Might not those fnnetioiis he placed in the hands of the commandant ot the Cape corps; mav he not, from his situation being constantly on the frontier itseii, wiiicii liie eomnianiiiiii: officer at (iiaham".s Touis is not, be \w»<- intimately acquainted with the disposition of the native inhabitants and ( allies, than any other person can he uho resides at (iraham'sTown "—I eonsuler the comiiKUK am of the Cape euro. ha> k-s -eneral knowledge of the subject than the coinmandanl ' ol ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 1 r of tlu: frontier ; lie is principally confined to liis own head-quarters, wliicli are at Colonol ./o/m /?,•//. one ot tlic most c()nsi(lerul)!e posts. 11)94. Docs lie not go along the whole line committed to his charge.? — Not as 3 June 1834, the commandant does ; besides, he has the whole charge of the rifle corps ; he must look after iiis scattered men and horses, their arms, equipments, (juarters, Ike. His is no slight charge under such circumstances. iy(j5. Do you consider the dispersion .)f tlie force contributes to increase the charge of the officers '? — Certainly it does. KjyO. I see at Cape Town Lieutenunt-colonel Smith is commandant ? — It i; so stated. i(»()7. It is also stated that he is dejiuty (iiiartermaster-general ? — Yes. ii)()8. Does he receive pay in botli capacities? — He has received it, but he is no longer commandant. itjyy. Has somebody else been appointed to that situation : — Yes. 2000. Was it found he could ,ot discharge the duties of that situation ? — He could, and did ; but 11 senior officer is now commandant. This appointment is not held by conmiission. i.^001. If (Colonel Smith could transact the duties of those two offices, might they not Le combincil in one, so tliat one of the offices might be reduced : — Tliere is nothing impossible in it, certainly ; hut I do not know that it would be proper. The duties may, at times, be found incomjiatible. 2002. There is also u commandant at Uobben Island? — Yes. 2003. Is tiicre any garrison at Robbcn Island ? — There is a detachment from Cape Town. 2004. Is Robben Island an important post? — It is not used as a post for mili- tary defence, but as a convict station ; the commandant has the charge of the whole of the convicts ; it is a responsible office, and must be filleil by a person of character. 2005. Were there many convicts there when you left the colony ? — About 100 ; there used to be a great many more ; the numbers are always lUiciuating. 20()(). Tiieie is another commandant at Port Frederick ; is that an imiiortant post? — It is a fort, and certainly of such importance that a commandant should be fixed there. It is the only sea-port on the eastern coast, situated at Port Elizabeth, in Algoa Bay. 2007. Is there any yarrison there? — Yes, a small garrison; a detachment from the regiment at Ciraham's Town. 2008. I see that Major Cloote is town and brigade-major, anti lower down 1 lind a major of brigacie, Major O'Reilly ; may not those duties be performed by one person? — Not a': that distance, certainly; they are 630 miles from each other. 200(). Is it necessary to hav(; a major of brigade at Graham's Town, taking into consideriition that the garrison at (iraham's Town is only about .-joo men, that there is an officer commanding timt garrison, and besides that, a commandant of the Irontier- — Major O'Reilly's duty extends to every post on the tVontier ; this situation was abolished some few years ago, but it was found necessary to re- establish it. 2010. Is it necessary for the governor to have two aides-de-camp? — Ap|)arentlv not, tor the present governor has but one, being a major-general; a lieutenant- general has two. Until of late the governor liad two colonial aides-de-camp in addition to his military stall". 201 1. Is the colony, generally speaking, healthy ?— Certainly- 2012 The medical statf consists of a deputy inspector-general of the iiospital- and five assistant surgeons; can such a large medical stalVbe necessary, in addition to the regimental surgeons ? — It arises entirely from the force being so much divided, and from tlie general want of civil medical jiraclitioners. An endeavour was made .some time ago to get the military duties performed by private surgeons, but they >vere not to be had. 2013. Are the assistant surgeons scattered over the frontier with the troops ? — I do not know how many are, but most of tliem arc scattered about at ditVerent posts with the troops. 2014. Can you suggest any reduction of the staff, eitiier medical, commissariat or ordnance- — I do not prot'ess to be anpiainied with the extent of the ordnance stall duties. I know that the commissariat statf is numerous, for the same reason ^•'^5- Q ,; that Ci)lonel John Rdl. J June 1834. 118 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE tlint the iiieclicul assistants arc so numerous, namely, the great dispersion of the troops. •joi,-;. Is it necessary that the commissariat of Cape Town shouhl consist of one deputy commissary-general and five deputy assistant commissaries-genera I ?— I presume that it is, for the department of accounts, formerly separate, is now turned over to the connnissary-generai, who also docs tlie iluty of the former paymaster-general's de|)arlment. 20i(i. It appears that Li«iutenant-colonel Wade acts as secretary to the governor, and IS also deputy adjutant-general ?— He did, and is deputy adjulant-generul. 2017. Is one person adequate to the perfonnanee of those two duties?— Yes, I should say he is, heing upon the spot. Colonel Wade's duties as adjutunt- general did not then recpiire his ahsence from Cape Town. Tiie reason why he held hoth was, that he was military secretary to Sir Lowrv Cole at the time of his appointment as deputy adjutant-general, and continued "to act during the short period ot Sir Lowrys remaining slay in the colony. It was merely a temporary arrangement, and could not he made a rule to he followed. A general officer has a right to select for the one office, tlie King gives the otiier hy coniinission. JOiS. When you stated that you did not think a reduction in the military Jorce could he made, did you take into consideration the fact, that a reduction of SIX men in a company is now in progress ? — I did. ■-'oij). You consider then to that extent a reduction may he made ?— It would make no very great dilference ; to that extent the three hattalioiis may he reduced without much disadvantage arising from it. Vcneriit, 13" die J iitiii, 1834. LORD VISCOUNT EBRINGTON, IN TIIE CHAIR. Mr. Ruhrrt Dyie. 13 June 1834. Mr. Robert Di/cc, Assistant Staft" Surgeon of the Cavalry Dcpdt at Maidstone, calleil in ; and Examined. 2020. YOU have served at the Cape, iiave yon not?— Yes, I have. -'021. In what capacity have you served r— In the capacity of assistant staff surgeon. 2022. How long were yon there ?— Ahout five years, I think. 202.5. When were those five years?— From the year 1828, in Cape Town ; I came there from the Mauritius. 2024. Till what time did you remain there?— Till .luly or August last vear 1833. ^ -^ ' 2025. Were you during the course of your stay at the Cape on the frontier, as well as in the town - — I was not on duty on the frontier. 2020. Hut you had visited the frontier ? — Yes, I had. 7. Will you state to the Committee whether yon consider the climate healthy -Yes, I do. -Now and then 2027. Will or unhealthy? -I consider it healthy. 2028. On the Irontier, do you mean, ac «'ell as at Cape Town r 2()J(). There are not many sick in the garrison there, are there? there may he a good many, hut there are not many in general. 2030. Every hattalion lias attached to it a surgeon and an assistant surgeon, has It not ? — ^ es, it has. 2031. Owing to there heing only si.\ surgeons to those hattalioiis, they of course comhine in the work ? — Vcs. 2032. Now do you not imagine from that heing the case, that there is an almost ahundant com|.lemeiit of medical officers in the hattalioiis, as part of (heir estah- lisiiment: — I have never seen hut two medical officers in eacii regiment, hut I should imngiiie that there may he times when the duties will he very slji'ht. 2033. 'J'he ("ommitlec find upon a reference to tlie return which they have here, that the medical staff consists of a deputy iiis|)eetor-general, and live assistant suigeons ; tlo you conceive, taking into consideration the circnmstanees that have already heeii mentioned, thiit so large a medical >,Ud]' is laiuircd ? - -Tiic inedical .'tafi is uiiconiie il all: iir> 1 should say that they are certiiinly required, if a medical officer is to he with every detachment, whici hi en usual. las alwavs '34. 'I'l are ON MILirAUY KSTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. i'9 ■2<);}4. TlK-ri! luin^' two iiu.ditul otticcis to caclj Imltulion, is not oiiu dctiiclied Mr. Hubert Di/te when ilic Imttiilioi) is divided ? — Yes. . •Jo.jf,. Now when you were at Cape Town, how many of tlie inedicul stall" were '3 J"'"" '8.U. there : — There was only the principal medical officer and one assistant stati' surgeon. •J();j(i. lliivo the artillery and ent^ineers any medical oHiccr attached to them? — Not exclusively ; the medical staff do the duty. •->o;j7. It appears by a return now before the Committee, that there are only >i2 ; that the whole force of the royal artillery is only /-,•.•? — Yes, it is 52. ao;3S. (jHild not one of the battalion assistant siirj^eons take care of so small u force as that r — Yes, I think he coidd. Jo.Jl). Miiiht not therefor(! one assistant staff' surgeon be dispensed with ?— Were this the only duty he mifjht. •.>()4(). What is the other .= The attendance on the staff, the connnissariat and Iheordnance-oliice departineut, with their families and .servants, which are numer- ous, and all entitled to luedicul attendance. 2041. liut as there are two battalions, each of which has two medical officers attached to it, could not the regimental staff' he fully competent to take charge of the whole of the sick of the garrison :— If there were v' ly few sick, anil concen- trated as in a barrack, it is very po.ssible they might ; but .iving at a distance, as they «l(), it could not be easily done. 204 J. The question askeil of you rtdates to Cape Town ? — The general stall oliicers live at a clislance from each other ; they do not all live in the garrison, and it takes a long time to go from place to place. 204;}. Why could not a senior medici:! olliccr do it? — I dare .say he might occa- sionally, and often does assist ; but the duties of the senior medical otiicer are numerous, and might often interfere witli his regular attendance. 2044. ^'ou have stated that at ("ape Town there was only the principal officer and one assistant staff surgeon ; canyon state where the others were ipiartered ? I cannot state positively, but I think there was one at CalVre Drift, one at Herma- nns Kraal, one at Fort Wiltshire, and one at Port Kli/.abeth. One of these posts is usually supplied by the ret;imeutal stall'. 204.-;. Tlicy were all on the troutier, were they H — Yes, they were. 2i)4(). Were there any at (iraham's Town -—The regimental officers arc there. 2047. At Call're Drift what description of troop,-, do they attend r— I believe both the Cape corps of cavalry and a (Ictachment of the regiuient on tlu' frontier. 2045. Uhat do tiiey attend at Fort Wiltshire: -At Fort Wiltshire there are detachments of the regiments on the frontier. ^ 204(). Have not the mounted Cape corps medical officers attached to them r — They havi' only one. Jo/io. Do you not tiiink that, taking into consideration tiic abundant regimental medical staff at ('ape Town, some trilling reduction might lie made in the medical staff- — I du not know, because the posts are so very far distant. 2051. You nuist imderstand that the Couunittee are now speaking of Cape Town only ?— Now and then the duties a e siigiit, but at times they are very severe. I can only speak of tin, time during which I remained in Cape Towii, whicli was u|)war(ls of five yeiiis ; during that time they were at times very severe.' J!ut not havin^ liud the eliiiige ol an iiospital, I cannot so well speak to the extent of it in the garrison. 2(»,'52. On what occasions went tiiey so severe .-—They were severe at particular periods ol the year ; mid in conse(|ueiice of tlie number of women and children belonging to each tauiily, and the distances at wlii-h they live. 2(>,v-'*. Are tlieie no private practitioners belonging to the Cape ,-—Ye.s, there are numerous private practitioners. 2o,'-,:j. The medical officers do not employ tlieni, do they : — No, they do not. 20.'-,4. Do you include as part of the principal nitilieal ollicer's duty, tlie attendance on the families of the officers of t'le staff ?-~He has not during my time . lie is liilly competent, in point of skill, to do so, is he ?— Yes, he is fully competent; he is an assistant surgeon. "•-J- U 4 2057. May Mr. Robert Ih/ce. I J ''ime 1834. «20 MINUTES OF KVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE ^057. May it not be desiral)le lo Imvc an assistant start" surfrefin to replace any of tlie others on (Ictatluncnts who may l)o taken ill ; or it un extra . IJiuiues- tionahly it would he desirable ; hut in u case of that sort a private practitioner would be employed. 205S. In that case a private practitioner would he employed, to no where '—To go witli the detachment. 2051). ^'ou have stated that the labours of the medical start' are sometimes light, and at other limes they are .severer— Yes, I have. 20(10. Would there not be a means of providing for that increa.sed sickness in the severe timcb by a resort to the private practitioners ?- Yea, there would. 2o(ji. That is supposing the staflf were somewhat reducal ?— Yes. 20()_>. Do you consider that the employment of private practitioners in such u case would eftect any considerable savingto the public r— I should doubt it very much. ■' 20(13. Must it not be a savi-ig fo the public if you only emjjloy an individual just at the time when you want him, instead of keeping hini the whole year, during a great part of which time he would have very little to dor— There might be a saving in that, certainly. 20(14. Hut you would not get a private practitioner to accept of the employment tor a week or a month, as you might want him, upon the same terms as the oflicers ? — C erfamly not ; and it is very |)robable that the most desirable medical men would not accept of it at all ; their practice would very likely not allow them' to do so. 20(15. Do you know at what rate it would l)e necessary to pay private practi- tionejs to go out with any detachment, and give up their own |)ractice for a siiort time.-— I ,',huuld think that no nuiii, witii any practice, would go out at all. 20(i(). lias it Ircijiiently occurred tliiit it lias been necessary to resort to private imictitioners to uttcml the detachment P— Yes ; it lias happened during tlie timo I have been there. 20(17. Did^ you find any (hrticulty in obtaining the assistance of |)rivate prac- titioners.- — Yes ; in tiie one instance which I know of, we (liJ, mhI the person afterwards refused to act. 2()()S. At what rate was he paid ?— .\t the same rate as tiie other medicid officers, I believe. 2o(i(). Tlien, as far as you wero aware, during the time you were actually serving, the private practitioner, wlien employed, was not a greater cliargc lo the public than any other oHicer of tiie medical start" would have i)eenr— No, he was not. 21170. Did you ever know any other instances of private practitioners being so em|)loyc(l than wliat you have spoken of ?— Yes, I have known it. hut it is merely by re|)ort ; I do not know it of my own knowledge. 2071. You have heard of it upon more tlian one occasion, have your — Yes. J07J. How often has it occurred during the time you were there that civilians were tniploytd on detachments ?— I recollect two instances at ttiis moment. I am not certain, but I think tliere was a thiitl time. I am pretty certain of two, and they \yere iioth on the frontier. One of these, the •lenlleman refused to act ; the other instance was a private transaction between the medical men. 2073. The trontier service is considered the most disagreeable service, i^ it not.^ — Yes, Ironi its distance, aiui the interior acconniioilalion for the oHicers. to you nave tlie same ditfi- iisinsen(hng him to Cirahams 'I'own ?— No ; the distance's, of course, are less, and I^ siiould think a man would not object to go there so much as to (Maliani's 'J'owii, wliieh is si.x or seven hundred miles away. I conclude this apj)lies to an emergency ; to a very siiort period. 207,-,. Are you aware whether or not there was any retiuction of the medical establishment took place about the time you went out there, or wi!s it, as far as you know, tiie same as it had been before: — I think it was after 1 came u.cr". I "am noi sure whether it was after or immediately preceding. -'070. Is there a naval hospital at (ape Town r— No ; there is one at Simon"s Town. 2077. There is not one at Cajie Town, but liierc is one at Simon's Town, is there - — Yes. 2078. U hat IS the number of medical olHcers there r — One, 1 believe. 2079. Only 2074. Sup|)osing you wished to send a medical man, a private practitioner, Simon"s Town, or any where in the neii;libourliood, would you have the same dit: cully as insendiiiii him to (iialiams 'I'own ?— No ; the distance's, of the ON MILITAKV ESTAIJLIS'IMIiNTS IN THK COLONIES, ui 2uy(), Only one medical oIKcer, und no ussistunt, do yon incun .- — It is under Mr. H'jbeii Dmo :■ tliurw; ot un assistant ; or, ut least, lias been so nntil lately. — •Jo8(). Now there is a surjieon and assistant, is there ! Yes, I believe so. 2081. (Jould not tlie.se people he employed to assist the army? -They have, since the reduction that has been spoken of, had the charge of the detachmi iit from Sim< on s Town -No; ■-'iiSi'. Has there ever been any assistant surgeons landed iVoni the ships ?- I have never known it. They generally did the duty at the naval hospital. .'oS_j. Do you think, taking into etmsideration the unwillingness of private practitiiiners to leave their own practice, that an increased rate of remuneration would induce them thus to give up their private practice ? — I think there are very tew, if any, medical men in (Jape Town who would give up their practice. •2084. Not for any remuneration, do you mean i — ^Of course, men naturally Imlance their emoluments in private practice with that, and tlu^y make u charge corr(s|)oii(ling. They would probably go for a remuneration eciuivalent to their private practice. •JdS,-,. Do you know how long the private practitioner to whom you have referred was employed with the troops? — I do not know positively ; it was a very short period. ji)K(l. Was it two or three months? — Not so long as that. 20S7. VVus it a month .^ — I really could not state what it was. •.20S1S. How did you su|)ply his place" — I ilo not know how it was supplied. aoSj). What is tiie season of the year at which the medical duties fall the heaviest? — (ienerally in the jummer season and the autumn; .January, I'ebruaiy, March and April, those arc tin; most unhealthy months. The most unhealthy period is during the excessive heat, which is in December, .January, rebruary and March, and those are die months during which I should think it likely thai there would be the most sick ; Imt it varies. •JO(|o. In fact, the unhealthy season is three months in the year, is it? — Yes, it is. •2()()i. What an; the most .sickly months of the year, do you say ? — During the liot Mcather, the summer mouths, the months of December, January, February and March. -Mi|)J. (ienerally speaking, what was the average umount in numbfu- of patients that you bad during the sickly season, while you were there? — On an average, do you mean ? -'(>(),}. Yes, (luring the sickly season? — I have never seen any particularlv un- liealthy season. 20(i4. Who did you attend ? -I had the charge of the ^^cncral statV, witii their families. 20^,-,. That is including the women and children, is it? — Yes. •2()i|(>. What was the average number, as far as you can recollect? — Never above '2'), if so many as that. -'007. Is that including children ?— Yes. 2(i()S. And that wa^ in the >ickly season, was it? — Yes. ;;<>(|i|- Do you not think tliiit an assistant surgeon could have assisted you very niucii, or have taken the labour oil' your hands entirely ?— Of course he could. J 10.). Are there not private [iraetitioners in the (^ape who have not a great deal of practice ? — There may l)c some. -Moi. Would it not be a recommendation to a man just coming out and enter- ing into practice to have had his skill tried by attendance on the troops ? — No doubt it would. -M(i2. You have no doubt it would be a recommendation in private practice aftervMirds, have you? — No doubt of it. 2i(i;5. Do you not think it wotihl be more CKpensive to induce a private prac- titioiK r to give up his jn-ivate practice, even for four monilis in the year, that is for the supposed sickly season, than to pay an additional assistant surgeon for a whole year? — I should say so, certainly. 2104. M'onid there be any necessity for a private practitioner giving u|i his private practice, if he were merely called in occasionally to assist the stall' surgeon :in(l i.ihii- mcilienl -tatVuiiriiig the sickly season at Cape Town? — No, ikiI in Ca Town, because then \\\> practice would go on. J105. Now then, taking all the circumstances of the case into consideration, do you or do yon- not think tlnit any reduction could be made in the medical cstablish- ;] .funs 18:14. 132 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFOHE SELECT COMMITTEE 13 June 183+. Mr. Hol'tii Dyct. ment of Cape T<.wii, without (Iftriment to tliu public .service ? — Am I to iiiulerstniul '•>"' tl'»t is iiiclutliiijj till the meio- " -' England Oen tlio lion. Sir Imuiii Colt. >7 June 1834. 124 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE HEFORE SEI KCT COMMITTEE Gen. the Hon. England passes tlu'ousjli the department, as they are authorized and required to Sir Luwni Cnle. give bills ot' exclianj;c on the Treasury at one and a lialt' discount for cash. 17 June 1834. John Irvine, Ksq. I I Sir Riifam Doiikin John Irvine, Esq., Assistant Commissary-general, called in ; and Examined. •2133. HAVE you served at the Cape of Good Hope' — Yes. •2134. In what capacity r — As Deputy Asssistant Commissary-general in the / ccotmt Department. 213,5. How many years." — Eleven. 213(>. Durini^ what period ? — Fiom 1811 to 1822. 2137. liy a Return which you hold in your hand you will find that the com- missariat estal)lishment at the Cape consists of one deputy conniiissary-general and five deputy commissaries-general } — Yes. 2138. Do yon not consitier that somewhat a larger establishment tlian is requisite?- Xo, I do not. It even appears to have been reduced since I left the Cape ; but it being nearly 1 2 years since I served there, I cannot detail the particular duties of each individual ; and further, I at that period served in the account branch of the de[)artment. 2130. What duty have th«y to perform ?— The duty generally is very heavy; they have to raise the whole of the money for the military service and the naval departments; as also to pay the ordnance drafts, which arc daily presented, fur- nishing supj)lies to tiic army. Sec. They act, in fact, as hankers to the ordnance, and obtain ail such ordnance or military stores as are required on the spot. 2140. Then their duty is to supply the troops with provisions, and act in fact as a board of account also r — Yes. 2141. How many persons were employed in the account branch of the commis- sariat when you were there r — Four ; there was an assistant and myself, and two clerks. 2142. Still there remains, exclusive of the account brancii, according to the present establi.ihment, a deputy commissary-general and three deputy assistant commissaries-general r — -Tills printed statement only refers to the store branch. There was at the time I served at tiie Cape, a .st>iii' branch and an account braneli; the store hrancii had care of the provisions, niilu uy chesV, &c. of the army, and the account l)rancli examined ail tiie military and commissariat accounts. 214J. ! proume two of tiie individuals stated here as belonging to the commis- sariat, l)eiong to tiie account branch ? — Xo ; at tlie jicriod tiiat tliis Return was made out, the account brancii had ceased to exist; it iias been abolished. J 1 44. How are tiie accounts managed now? — They are sent home direct to the Treasury, and tiien transmitted to the Audit OHice. 214,5. Then, in point of fact, tiie iniiividuals stated here as belonging to llic comnii>sarial, are for tlie purpose of acting as purveyors to the troops ; supplying tiiem witli provision,- ?— Ye,-, together witii tiie duties before stated. 2140. Does it not appear to you that an cstalilishnient, consisting of a deputy commissariat-geneial and three deputy assistant commissariat-generals, is more than required, taking into account the amount of tlie garrison at Cape Town? — I do not; it depeiKls more upon tlie number of regiments, or jiortiou,- of regiments, employed tin re, tlian upon tlu.' mere numerical force, separate voucIh is and returns tieiug required for cacli corps. 2147. Considering tiie (iitrerent species of froops of whicli tiie garrison at the Cape is composed, do you tiiink the Commissariat Department iniglil lie reduced ? — No, certainly not. Sir Rujam- Duiildn, a Memlier of tin; ('ommittee, Examined. 2148. YOU exercised, for a certain time, tiie otlice of (iovernor of tiie Cape ,- — For two years nearly, in 1S20 and 1821, tlnring wliicli time 1 was also com- mander of the forces. 2i4q. .According to tiie return, it u|)pears that a consitlerable reduction of tiie forces at liie('ape iias taken place since tliat period : -Ye-, lliere lias. During tiie time ! held t!ie eon-imaiu! of tlie forces I iiud. ia !82u, 2>ii>)4 nuik and file, mimI in 1821, 2,867 rank and lile, anil tlie number, 1 see by the return of 1S33, is reduced to 1,778. 21.50. Taking inl(j view tiie present circnmstaneos ot the Cape, do you consider that aiiv fiirtlier reduction can lie made in tiie force now employed tiieie r—>. a, I liiink it a- lo>\ as it ouglit to lie. 21.51. You I 1 ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 125 21.51. You do not think that it wonhl admit of the reduction of six men a com- Sir liu/ane Donltu pany, whicli is about to tal. iJut in time of profound peace, and without any reference to a state ol siege, is not a much less force sufiicientr— Certainly ; under the supposition I have before stated, that in case of war or danger to the coloiiv, England would innne- dialely >enil out relief, and that the garrison should have a fortitied place of retreat. 21.57. 1'" >'"" think, in the event of England going to war, taking into consi- deration the naval superiority of this country, wc sliould not be ubk lo send over a rcinforceuK'nt lo the Cape, sooner in all probability than any other power could >vud out an attacking force '. — I tiiink not, because an enemy preparing a force in secret, and not declaring lor what part of the globe it was intendcil, would sail, leaving us ignorant as to the point they meant to attack. 0.25. ' u ;] " JljS. Do 126 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Sir Riifane Douk. 17 Jiini 1834. 215,8. Do tliat tiikc . , -suppose umt ill! ttuiicK M'oiiKi niKe place without a previou.s declaration ot war .--No; but with u .1. claration of war, the enemy would not make a (leclaration ot what place they meant to attack. 215!). Do you not su,,pose, in the event of tiie country beiufr at war, the --arrison of the colonies would be put upon the war establishment, as a matter of course'— liiey ought to be; but to do this it must be pre-supposed, li)at duriiw the peace a disposable torce sutticient fur this had been kept up, ^^ I' ^. 2160. Supposing it possible that the enemy could anticipate this country, and send out a force to attack tlie colony previous to any reinforcement beini; sent out Irom C.reat Uritain, and even be able to capture the castle, would not the tenure of that castle be ot a short duration, if a naval force were sent out to blockade the castle on the sea side, while the inhabitants, who are stated in the evidence to be Iriendly to the country, would in al" probability cut off all supplies from the land ^,"!''""~l" '■'^S''™ t" ^I'PplH's, I suppose an invading force would be fed from its own ships, \yhen I stated that I thought -.'..joo men were necessary to hold the colony securely. It wa.s with a view to any possible sudden attack, of tlie nature assumed in the question ; but \\ we could be insured against any such sudden attack, I should ^tate a much smaller number of troops as necessary for holding the colony. 1 should, under such a supposition, say 2,000 men would be sufticieut in time of peace. \u regard to that part of the question which relates to the enemy holding the castle, supposing them to have taken it, the duration of their so holdinc it must depend wholly on the state of defence in which the castle itself was as ivcll as the quantity of provisions the ships or the adjacent country !iad supplied to it before our relieving force made its appearance. 2101. Do you tliink, in a time of profound i)eace, putting aside the considera- tion of a probabL .ittack, that so large a force as 2,000 is nece ary for the internal tranquilhty and regulation of the colony ."--Putting out of consideration, as the que , imp les.all thought of an external attack, a .iiuch smaller force than a,ooo wouiu be siitlicient for the garrison of the colony. 2i(i2. What amount do you think would be sufficient ? -In such a state of peace and entire security us has been supposed by the question, I should sav l,()ooor 1,700 would be sutiicient. ^ 2l(v^ During the time yo" held the government of the Cape, had you an opportunity ot making yourself fully acquainted with the nature of the duties of the Cape corps .—I iiad ; and I considered the Cape corps as extremely useful lor tiie duties on which it was em<)loyrd on the frontier ; much more so ti'aa any other species of force would have been, considering the mocie of CatiVe inroad. 2l(.4. It is stated by Sir Lowry Cole, that the pnsent amount of the Cane corps IS 220 men ; do you know whether any change uus taken place since the tiii,„ you were at the Cape ? — I do not. 2lti> Do you consider that the strength of the Cape eorp.s, at the time you were there, «as ,'^nfficient lor the duties which thev had to perform?— It was wiien combined witii the battalion of infantry I had on the fioiitier, and several companies ot the lloval African Corps, si;!ce disbanded. -'Kiii. Can you state the amount?— I think the Royal African Cori)s consisted of four companies, ot about 2S0 men, at that time. 21(17. They were infantry ?— Yes. 2l()S. Do you think, taking into view the di.sbanding of the Royal African Corps, that the Cape corps is adequate to the performance of the duties:— I do notknow the strength of the Cape corps at present; and I beg to explain, that wfieu 1 stated my opinion as to the utility and efliciency of the Cape corns i ineaiit to apply that leinurk solely and locally to the Caflre frontier of tlij c'.loiiy ; but 111 my opinion it is desirable, as a general principle, that all troops employed by us in defence of our colonies, should be troops of the line and available lor all .services, by means of our naval superiority. When any exce'plion .s made to this principle, it should, in my opinion, rest wholly, as at the Cape on iocai circumstances. ' ' ON MILITARY 1 TABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 12: Jovis, 19° die Junii, 1834. LORD VISCOUNT EIUUNGTON, IN THE CHAIR. Assistant Commissary-General John Irvine, called in ; and Examined. 21C9. HAVE you served at Sierra Leone? — Yes. 2i7f). In what ca|)acity? — Assistant commissary-general. •2171. How long were you there? — Three years and a half; from January 1830 to June 1 833. 217'.'. Do you consider yourself as having competent knowledge of the situation of that colony l — I think I have ; and I should add, that in addition to the situation of assistant commissary-general, I held the situation of colonial secretary to the Government, from June to October in the year 183.'. 2173. Are you prepared to suggest to the Connnittce any alterations or reduc- tions in the establishment at Sierra Leone? — Yes; in the ordnance department I think there might he a reduction. Were a clerk of the works considered eligible for the charge of the stores, I should consider hinj and the barrack-serjeant equal to all the duties of the ordnance department; the commissariat paying for the 'ocal purchases, as is practised at the (iambia, upon vouchers. The duties of store- keeper, exce[)ting the charge of military stores, are, in point of fact, mainly per- formed by the commissariat, such as obtaining supplies on the spot, drawing out contracts, making {)ayments, &c. Should it, however, be deemed necessary to retain the storekeeper, he might, with the assistance of the barrack-serjeant, execute the duties of the barrack department, as is practised at St. John's, New lii nswick, and at Anupolis, Nova Scotia ; thus reducing the barrack-master and the ordnance clerk. 2174. 15y whom arc the timber, and other articles for biiiltling, contracted for:— By the commissariat, in the name of the ordnance. 2175. Are they not subject to examination of the clerk of the works, or some person in the ordnance departMcnt ? — Yes, the clerk of tiie works, or some person on the part of the ordnance. 21 7(». Is it not left entirely at the discretion of the commissariat ?— Not at all ; the ordnance officer decides upon the quality of the article. 2177. What is tiie reason the connnissariat are em|)loyed in making the con- tracts tor building materials.' — It is a Treasury arrangement. 217S. Does that generally prevail throughout the colonies- — Yes; it Treasury arrangement, with regard to the ordnance, throughout the colonies, commissariat advertise for all the ordnance supplies. IS a Tiie 2170. Can vou suifjiest any reihiction that may be niadj in the victualling department at. Sierra Lei ne ? — I conceive a great saving may lie etlected by a total abolition ef the victualling establisiiment ; ■ Sierra Leone. It is only within about 10 years that such an establishment existed there, and all the duty was j)erformed by the commissariat by an additional clerk, and at tiie small additional expen5e of about ;5i)0 /. (ler annum. At present the establishment consists of an agent victualler at ()()()/. |)er annum, a clerk at ,500/., cooper, labourers, &e., not less than 20u/., and the rent of the magazine (mo I., making in all 1,70*1/.; sliouUl the original plan be re-established, the ex|)ensc wouUI be about 300/., thus making a savin" of 1,400/. The commissariat magazine would be sutlicient for both the navy and army supplies ; the same cooper wotikl do for both, anil only a lew extra labourers would be rrquiieil. In my opinion the army and navy at Sierra Leone might be sup|)lied liy the commissariat to the advantage of both services, and all clashing in the way ot contracts would cease. 2iSn. What do you mean by " clashing of contracts"? — The navy and army advirlistd for their siipfilies separately; the contracts falling into tlic hands of dilVereiit persons, exposed the service to inconvenience in consequence. 21 Si. Does this, in fact, occur, that the army and navy come, as it were, scpa- u 4 ' rate Aad.'Com. Gen« John Irvine, 19 June 1834. 128 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Am. Com. Gen. rate customers into the inarkct, uiul liy that means raise the price ot the article ? — John Irvine. Ycs, it hiis occurcti, uiul it has that etl'cct. — J I Si. Then do you conceive that if tiie .supjilics for hoth services were con- ij) June i8;i4. tractcil for l)y one department, tiie conse(juence would he tlie supplies heing furnished at a much cheaper rate? — I do, certainly. 2183. Do you know that formerly there was only one contract for the army and navy, and tluit. it was altered, because it had (|uite a ditl'erent effect ; that there was eoudiinatidii "- — I only speak with rcj^ard to Sierra Leone. When I advertised for both services under oni' contract, I <)l)tained the contract at a much more favourable rate than had previously been paiil. 2184. It lias been stated to this Connnittee, that the commissariat department arc not so conipetenl to take charge of salt provisions for tiie navy as the victualling department ; tiiat tliev do not understand the unpacking or packing of salt pro- vision, and various other details of that natiur, so well as the victualling department of tile navy ; what is your opinion as to tiiat ?— I am not of that opinion, as far as my o»n experience goes; I do not see why tiie oHicers of the commissariat should not be as good judges, and why they should not impack anil repack provisions us well as tiie victualling ag(!nts ; and I am not aware of any proof to tiie contrary. L- 1 S/",. Do you mean to ; ay the military commissariat an; e(|ually well actiuainted witli tiie nature of provision for tiie dirterenl classes of .'hips ? — I can only say, ns far as my own experience goes, that when I was requested to supply any of the ships, they gave in a requisition of what they wanted, and wiiat suited their own vessels ; and tiiat I issued them according to such reipiisitions, and there was no dissatisfaction. 1 am not aware that an agent victualler could (i(> more. 2t8(i. Did they suit them r - Yes, they suited them. 2187. How many men-of-war wen; you ii: the haliit of supplying? — I had senerallv ttie supplving of detached portions of ollicers and seamen in charge of slave vessel.s, and occasionally had brigs of war and larger vessels lo supply. 21 SS. Miiiht the naval coinmissuriat supply tiie armv ? — I conceive tliat the limited duties of the victualling agents, have not qualified llicni for the management of the supplies ot' the army, which are issued altogether upon a ditVerent system. The victualling agents issue to the purser of a siiip tiie provisions for the navy in bulk ; tlie commissariat ollicers issue in detail to the troops, in daily or weekly rations, to each regiment or detachment, to the ollicers of the statV, to di |iartmen-ts and others, and iiiulcr regulations dissimilar to the naval service ; but, on tiie otiier hand, I do not see any ditliciilly in issuing by the coiiimissariat thi; supplies re()uired by the navy, wliich an; alnio'^t invariably issued in bulk. .My ex|)erieiice will fully warrant me in saying, that there is much less trouble in supplying a lirig- of-\>ar than in provisioning a small detachment of soldiers. -'|8(). You iia\e slated that tlie ccjmmissariat formerly su|)plied the navy ; why was the alteration made?— I do not kuiiw. J 100. Has any increase on tiie naval establisiimeiit on that station taken place •^inee the alteration was maili-r — I believe not since its original establishment. 2101. -Ale there any other stores supplied except provisions : sails, cordage or anvthing ot tliat kind? — ^'es, there nri' ; sails, ii(i. ('ould anv such competition have existed in a colony where vou were -erviiig witii a commissariat, »villiout you at least hearing ot it? — I might have heard ii. I>ut I was not so alive to the subject as to bear it in recollection. I ON MILITAllV KSTABLISIIMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 129 Luna, aS" die Junii, 1834. LORD VISCOUNT EBHINGTON, IN THE CHAIK. Robert fVilliam Haij, Esquire, called in ; and further Examined. ^'^■' ^J'.^P ?"' '.''^ ^'"">' of Ceylon captured from the Dutch r-In 1705 • the «■ i^-H^y, Esq. «arrison of Colombo, the last lortress which resisted, capitulated in February 1 796. — 2U)8. What uas the amount of the Dutch force at that time in the island -— ""^ •""'"■■ '^34- live thousand men, HK-ludnig the garrisons at Cultura and Point de Galle. 2199. What was the amount of force employed in the capture ?— Very ncarlv 7,000 men, ot which only 2,000 were Europeans. 22()() What was the amount of force kept up at Ceylon inm.ediatcly after the cap ore ?-Upon tins subject I wish to read to the Conmittee a statement made by Lieutenant-colonel Agnew, who was present at the capture of the island He stales, that m his opunon the military force which it would at all times be necessary to nunntain at Cey on, for the security of the island fro.n su.lden attack, could not be less than 2,000 European mfantry and four companies of artillery with the pro- portion ot Lascars usually attached to them on the Indian establishment, and 4 000 native intantry the support of which, under the most ri>rid system of economy would cost at least K.o.ooo /. per annum, without includim; the necessary supplies of stores and other expenditure, which might be estimated at 2,000 /. more This was in Au;;ust 1707. 2201. In what year was the island transferred from the charge of the East India Company to the Hrilish Government r—In 1 798. Xi-l'^' J^^'rf"^" "^^""'^F- ?'"f '" ""^ "'""""' of military force after that transfer ? -When Sir Ihomas Ma.tlaivl took charge of the government, in iSoi, he found the force at about 0,000 hghting men, including native as well as IJritish troops and 3,000 Lascars, and he brought it down to nearly 7,000 men. ' 22o;5. Have you any estimate of the proportion of British and native troops in that 7,000 ^-l have in my hand a return of the force which Sir Thomas Maitland considered necessary, by which it appears that the European force consisted of Koyal Ar illery, 290 men ; Lngineers, 9 men ; ,9th regiment, 483 '"en; the -5 is regiment, 070 men ; and the (.(.th, 8,58 men ; so that the King's troops amounted to 2,290 men. Of the colonial troops there was, of the Ceylon Cavalry 08 ■ the ist Ceylon Regiment, 843; the 2d. .,087; the 3d. %8 ; Invalid Maay,:.4,; Royal Artillery Lascars, ,r.24 ; Colombo Pioneers. 78;^. and Trincomalee Pioneers 350 ; making, in all, the two estimates ot the different description of force 7,426. 2204. Were there any Sepoys '-Such as were employed arc included 'in the Ceylon regiment. ■' 22(..r. l)o yo.1 know what was Sir Thomas Maitland's opinion as to the relative merit < t the native and liritish force .— In discussiii;^ the relative value of t!ie dif- . ca that S r I homas .Maitlaml thought that Sepoys could not be employed with orZn 'P '" .r' • ' II'" ^^^''' ''''' ^'"^ '""^' "■^^•'"'- "^ '''«-^V piodliced an ap- prehension in the minds ot the natues ; and that the Malays were the least fit mJn for the military service. '' 22ofi. Dill Sir Thomas Maitland consider the force at that time sufficient to resist aiy foveign attack ^-With reference to an expedition which was supjLd o be htting out from France agnnst C<-ylon, Sir Thomas Maitland wrote Imme to he C.overnment in some degree .,f alarm as to the inefliciency of his force. The iri!!! !b.T'' V' !]■" '-:""^!'"'"-'' »''^- '^^^^ on the island completely inadequate to enable nim to resist forei!!!! mv.isioii, « j t In Til"-" ^^'""' ""' ''"' '^^'""^>"» "^'■'■'^ory annexed to the British (wssessions =- 2208 Was any alteration made in the amount of force subsequent to the anuexa.ion ot that territory to the British possessions ?-The force seems to have ' been I 130 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEI'ORE SELECT COMMITTEE R. W Hay Esq. been diminislieil gnulually tVotu tlmt time, with the exception of one yctir, 1819, ' ,vlien tlio rebellion in Kiuuiy took pUiee. 93 June 1834. 220(). Wiiat is the amount ot force now employed ?— 3,73^- 2210. What iliite is that?— The 1st of September 1833. 22 1 1 Of wliiit description of force does timt number consist ?— 1 ho Enropeari force consisted of the Royal Artillery, 136; the .5«th re}iimcnt, 439: Hk-^ <"'i8t regiment, 410; the 7Sdi regiment, 3(io; the 07th regiment, 4JH; makmg altogether 1 782. The native force is composed of Gun Lascars, i()2; Ceylon rcgnnent, lis companies, 1,400; armed Lascareens, 221 ; Invalid Company of Malays, 102; Invalid Company of Sepoys, ().5 ; making the whole force 3,732 rank and hie, besides the Ceylon Light Dragoons and the I'ioneer Corps, or mditary artihcers employed in the construc'tion of roads and bridges ; but the dragoons have been reduced. 2212. Since when ?— The order was given two years ago. There remain a few, who are kept up as orderlies. .... , • • • . 2^13 How is that force distributed ?- The chief pomts where it is stationed dre, at Colombo, 1,204; Galle, 271 ; Matura, 19; Hambantottc, 37; Tangalle, 20- Hatticaloa, 38; Trincomalee, ,52b; Jaflna, 27; Manaar, 27; 1 utlam, 07; Chi'lan, 37; Kandy, 708; Madawalatene, 16; Talldenia, 1',; Bombodde, 19; Maturatte, 23 ; Ruanevelle, 27 ; Fort King, (i ; Kornegalle, 51 ; Ratnapoora, 57 ; Fort M'Dowall, 29; Nuevera Ellia, iCip; AUipoot, 2; Badulla, 157; Peradeniu, 170; this makes 3,009. . , ,. ,• . i- f 2214. Do you know what is the extent ot the line over which this force is distributed "r — Perluips about 1,000 miles. ^ . ., .,, -> 115 Have you the means of furnishing the Committee with a statement ot the inci-ease of the terrilo. and population which was the result of the annexation of the Kandvan territory ?"— The Kaudyan territory is supposed to contain an area of about 14,000 s.piaie miles, uith a population of 304,000 souls ; while the area of the inariliine provinces which were contpiered from the Dutch hardly exceeds 10,')00 s(iuare miles. . 22 lb. What are the numbers of the Ceylon Native Regiment?— 1,400 rank and hie. , ,, • .• a- "1-. How is it othcered r— There are both European and native oHicers. I have 'a inemoraivlum respecting the Cevlon Regiment, which, if the Committee will allow me, 1 will read ; principally taken trom Sir Edward Barne's dispatches. " The Ceylon llitle Regiment was consolidated from several corps, raised at ditrereiit remote periods; 10 companies of the C'eylon Regiment are Malays, and these lonned the original 1st Ceylon Regiment, under the denomination ot Ciiam- na'Mie'.s Regiment . vNhich was Iranslened Irom the Dutch to our service in 1790, oirthe surrender of Colombo. The 2d Ceylon ilegiment, called Ramsey's Regi- ment, «as composed of natives of the i^hlnd, and subsequently recruited Irom Sepoys from India ; the jd Ceylon Regiment was tornied from a small number ot Catlres, and was emploved iii the island as a military corps in the garrison ot Colombo, in iSt)-„ by Ciovenior .Nhiitland, and was denominated the 3d (,Lylon Re.Mincnt. TheBaillies, the 4lh Ceylon Regiment, was raised in 181 1, by Callre recniits from the I'oiluguese setllements of Goa and M()/.ambi(|ue. T he three last-mentioned corps have, at dilleient sultficcpient dates, been reduced ; by which ananacment three CatVre companies and tinee Sepoy companies were fmally incor- porated with the 10 companies ot Malays; and tliose constitute the torce ot the present Ceylon regiments. 2218. That Ceylon corps so enlisted was for service limited to the island?— Certainly ; it was so intended. •' .10. In adilition to tlio>c are there not troops of armed Lascareens, aiul invalid Sepoys and invalid .Malays ?- Yes ; there are dillerenl descriptions ot native force employed in various local duties. '2'o. What is the amount of military expenditure now defrayed by the Colonial Government of Ceylon ?— The amount in 1832 was 108,709 /., which is made up hi this way: L-laiul allowances to the troops, 45,9.'')!) '• ; !>ay and allowances to staft; 18,903/.; pay of engineers' department, 2,iil/.; contingent expenses, 5,072/. ; conimissai"iat and bairaek department, 36,001/.; making m (!«> v.hole, 108,708/. 2>2i. Are the troops provided by the British commissariat, as in other colo- nies ? -They are :u)t ; there are certain officers appointed by the governor who dischan-e tlmt duty. ^^^^ ^^ Ml ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 131 23U2. Is the expense defrayed by tlic Colonial Government r — Yes, wholly ; and h. W. Hat/, Eiq. it appears in those accounts which I iiave already read. _^___ •222},. What is the present population of Ceylon? — As near as possible 33 Juoe 1834. 1,000,000; ()()8,()()0, according to the latest return, in 1832. 2224. Have you the census in other years to show the ratio of the increase? — We have returns of the population for some years back. In 1823 the population, including the troops, amounted to 7.')t),998 souls. 222/). What changes have taken place in the salaries and emoluments of the governors of the island since it came into our possession? — I have a memorHndiim on the subject. The first governor was Mr. Frederick North, who was appointed in the year 1798, and held the government tiilJuly 1805. His salary was 10,000/. a year. I am not enableil to state whether he enjoyed any other emolument. Sir 'J'homas Muitland held the government from July 1 8o/^ till March 1812. His salary was 10,000/. a year, and his military emoluments were in proporticm to his rank. As major-general, he received for pay and allowances, for a time, 1,4(10/. a year; as lieutenant-general, 2,()oo /. ; and eommander of the forces (during a period of two months) he received [)ay and allowance at the rate of 4,018/. per atnnim. To him succeeded Sir Robert Ihownrigge, who administered the govcMiinient from March 1 8 1 3 to the 1 SI of February 1 820. His salary was 1 0,000 /. a year. I le received no military |)ay, but he drew the allowance of lieutenant-general on the stalV, which for several years amounted to i,4(io/., and subsequently to D/if) /• Sir Edward Paget administered the government for a very short time, from tlie 1 st of February to the 30lh of November 1 822, and drew a salary at the rate of 1 0,000 /. a year, and staff" allowances <).')<)/. a year. The next governor was Sir Edward Barnes, who assumed the government on the 18th of June 1824. 222,5*. There is an interval of about two years? — Yes, during which jjcrioil the government was administered by Major-general Sir James Cami)l)ell, as lieutenant- governor. 222t). What was Sir E. Barnes's allowance? -£. lo.ooo. a year, and stafl'allow- ance to the amount of 822/. He was succeeded by Sir Robert Wilmot Horton, wiio assumed the government on the 23d of October 1831. Sir Robert's salary was reduced to 8,000/. a year. 2227. What emoluments has he? — £. 228 per annum for the value of the oil and light for the governor's houses, and for a certain nimibcr of gardeners. 2228. How may iiouses has he? — One at Colombo and one at Kaiuly. 222y. Is there any allowance for keeping them in re|)air ? — No. 2230. Has he any travelling allowance ?— No ; the 228/. which I have men- tioned includes every thing. 2231. Is he allowed any soldier servants? — There were a certain number of native attendants wlio were attached to the CJovernor's establishment ; but they have been reduced. There remain a few honorary attendants, native headmen, who constitute no charge on the public. 2232. Is the salary of 8,000/. paid l)y the Colonial Government? — It is. The salary of any future governor of Ceylon is to be reiluced to 7,000 /. a year. 2233. Is the savmg eU'ected thereby carried to tiie account of the British or the Colonial (Jovernment ? — it is carried to the account of tiic Colonial Government. 2234. Would the saving effected by the reduction of the Governor's salary be a saving to the Colonial (Jovernment or to the BritisliCJovernment ? — It would be a saving to tile British (iovcrnnRiit, in so far as it would render the island al)le to defray a larger portion of tlie military ex|)enditure. 223.5. Were we at the time of the capture of the island assisted by the natives in the capturing of Colombo ? — I believe not. 223(i. Are tliere any fortresses at C'olomlw r — Colombo is a fortified place. 2237. At the time Colonel Agnew considered a garrison of (i.ooo men, of which 2,000 only were to be Europeans, suHlcient for tlie ilefence of Colombo, did he not contemplate a state of war f — Undoubtedly. 2238. At that lime the King of Kandy was hostile to Europeans ? — He might have supposed that fur his o«n safety he would I'veiitiiallv hecomc so. 2231). And Colonel .Vgnew's opiniofi was, that he hud force siilfieient for a deteuee against tiie King of Kantiy, and against France, with whom we were at war at that time ? -It had no reference to the King of Kandy. 2240. The French were then in possession of the Isle of Bourbon and the Mauritius ?--Yes, they were. o-^j- 8 3 2241. Uow 132 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE R. II'. /Aiy, Esq. 2241. [low many troops were employed in tlie Kandynn war? — About (),ooo, I think. jj June 1834. 2242. How long did the Kandyan war last? — About three or four months; not mure. i 2243. Why was it deemed necessary to increase the garrison from the amount at wliicli it was in 1820? — I conclude it was owing to its inadequacy to tlie duties of the island. 2244. That is your own opinion ? — Yes ; I know no particular reason for the increase which took place. 224,';. What was the amount offeree in the island during the time it was in the occupation of the East India Company, that is, between the years 1 7;).'-, and 1 798 ? — About 7,000 men were employed by the Company at the time of the capture of the island, and it dues not appear that they were reduced. 2246. What was tiie cost to CJreat Britain at the time the island was held by the Com|)aiiy ? — The Company had charge of the whole establishment, and defrayed the whole cost, tnilitary as well as civil. 2247. Wliat is the annual cost to Great Britain now of the Island of Ceylon? — About 108,000/. 2248. Why was the island withdrawn from the dominion of the East India Com- pany? — I presume it was because the Government at the time supposed it would be better administered in their hands. 2249. Have not the offices of governor and commander of the forces been gene- rally united in the same person? — It appears that the greater part of them have been military men. 2250. Can you state any objection to the union of those offices in one person ? — In most cases 1 should say that it would be better to unite the offices in the same individual. 2251. Might not one individual undertake the whole charge for 7,000/. a year, in preference to having a governor and a commander of the forces ? — I think it would be a small remuneration for the |)erformance of united duties of that description. 2252. Do you consider the union of the two offices would cast any additional expense upon the governor? — I think probably he would be obliged to entertain more military men than he does at present. 22,')3. Why do all the officers upon the .stafi" receive such large island allowances? — Partly f)ccause they have island duty to perform, independently of their military duty in many cases. 2254. For instance, a majoi-gencrai receives an addition to his pay as a general officer, 3,308/. island allowance, giving him 4,310/. for his animal pay and allow- ance, wliereas I find an officer commanding the troops in the Ionian Islands receives only 2,398/. ? — The island allowances are given in comnmtation of forage and rations, und other allowances which military men have in all parts; they are analo- gous to the butta given to troops on service in the East Indies. Tiie allowances were considerably higiier previous to i8iy, when they were reduced by one-third of their amoimt. t)ne reason why the officers should have un additional allowance and greater than that in the Mediterranean, for instance, is, that the peculiar nature of the climate rtquires a variety of what may be considered luxuries in other parts, but here are indis|)ensable necessaries. 22-),5. Are not troops in the West Indies equally exposed to all the incon- veniences of a tropical climate without receiving this amount of allowance? — They have not the same allowances cerliiinly. 22j(). If those indulgences which are received f)y the officers of Ceylon arc con- sidered absolutely necessary in a tropical climate, ought not the officers of the W'est Intlies tcpially to receive them? — The argument is in favour of adding to those wfio do not receive them. 22',7. Do you conceive the unalopy more close between tiie condition of the officers in the East Indies and the officers of Ceylon, than between those of Ceylon and the West Indies? — Certainly: I a|)prthend the expense of living is greater at Ceylon. 22,j8, 1 he only reason you can assign why the officers generally in Ceylon receive siicli hirge island allowances is, that they received allowances of the same nutme w hilo Ihe island was in |)o.>-session of the I'-ast India ("ompaiiy ? — They ciintiiiue the system, wilii niodilications, established l)y the East India Company. 22 j(). Then it is an exception to the general rule v.hich prevails with res|)ect to tlic iL ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 133 llic payment of colonial staff officers i" — The island ullowances arc only given in H.iy. Hav.Eta. Ceylon and in the Mauritius, and with limitations in the West Indies. . 2260. Are you aware how far those island allowances are analogous, in point of 33 June 1834. amount, to the allowance of the King's tro«|)s in India? — I have a statement of the island allowances and the other military expenses of Ceylon, which details tlie particular allowance to each rank. SCALE OF ISLAND ALLOWANCES PAID BY THE COLONY. Regimental. Colonel Lieutenant-colonel - Major ... Captain . - - Lieutenant Second ditto or Ensign J'iiyiiiaslcr Surgeon - - - Assistant-surgeon Adjutant Quartermaster £. ■i. 45 !) 3a a 'J3 »9 K! iG 8 r, b 13 t(i >7 lU 13 10 10 4 8 r> per montfa. Colonel - Lieutenant-colonel Major Captain - Lieutenant Additional Allowances to OfEcers in command of Corps. per month. 5 5 8 10 4 4 3 4 II Additional Allowances to Oflficers in command of (larrisons, with the exreption of Colombo, Trincomalte, Knndy and (iaile. Colonel ... Lieutenant-colonel - Major - . • Captain . . - Lieutenant Knsign - - • ag «> 8 18 (j 14 3 19 14 - - ti The allowance for the com- mandants of Kandy and Trinco- nialee is fixed at 37/. 101. each, of Colombo at iqI. i 1 1,, and of Oalle at lot. a day. General and Medical Stafi'. Medical General on the Staff - . . - Deputy (juarteriiiaster-general, being lieutenant- colonel. Assistant Quartermaster-general, major Deputy Assistant (iuartcrnia-stor-general, lieutenant Deputy Adjutant-general, lieutcniint colonel Deputy Assistant Adjutant-general, captain Assistant Military Secretary, ditto ... Aid-de-Camp to the (lovcmorl whether captains Ditto ti) the (lentral-ollicer -J nr subalterns. Hrevet Inspector-general of Hospitals Staff Surgeon .---.-• Assistant ditto ---... Apiitbcrary to the I'orccs - . . - . ■Jhe medical officer attendant on the Governor and Lieutenant-governor. a?.-) 13 4 i(j ' - 11 19 (i 4 'i li l(i I - (i 18 .. (1 18 .. (i 18 _ (i 18 _ 68 3 6 43 '9 - 13 10 - >3 r, - II '» - In addition to regimental al- lowance being regulated where the ranks of staff officers do not correspond with the table, by making the addition equal to one- half of the regimental allowances to officers. To aid'de-camp, if subaltern, the staff and island allowance of a captain are granted. Being the difference of island allowance lictweer. a surgeon and an ;issistant-surgeon. Besides tne above Allowances, the following arc the Kates of Pay granted to Officers on the Staff, paiil fjy the Colony. Deputy Assistant Adjutant-general - - . Deputy Assistant Qnartermasier-general - Deputy ('ommissary-general . . . - A'-si^t^int Coi!!!nis«arY-i!cneral . - _ Deputy Assistant Commissary-generals, each - Staff Officers of garrisons .... Aicl-(!e-('amps to the (iovemor or Lieutenant- governor. 0.25. 10 10 1 -, 7 lu 10 per day. {continued} 134 MINl'ir.S OF l,\ IDI.lVl r, MKFOHK SKf.i:< T l ^tu^l|mKt"« iiixilit liiMii ( IIHi-iiiii m'i'M|iylii|| (liiv«ruiii(i||t IjiiiirUrt. Mi'iliinl (IfiiKntl, CiilitiiKl unil limiMfrliir-Htiwrnl iif ll>0|MtHl> I iillU'liillll iiiIkiii'I, Miljii|,|)f|ii|ty|ii>| iKl -in'lli'rill ii( rii'«|iimU mill f^nnlaliliil lll«|ii'i'lii| til lliiii|lllii|ll <'ii|iliiiii, I'uMiiiKdM mill Niiii^riin ApKHliiiilimniiin. I.iiiili'iiiiiil, I imiKii mitl Qiiniltii> IIIHntl'l I 14 • ;i par iiinnih JJtM. Air iiKl llir ixlin iilliiwiiiici'N ii'crivfd Ity llir lidon-. in Jlii' liiiiliituil possrsMuiis ol ilic I'liHl In.liii tt.m|mnv |mi.l hv llir KiiM Iniliii ('oiu|miiy, iinti not III llir .hini',.' ..I (111111 IIiiImim' riirv inc jmid l.y ihc Musi Indm ( •..niimnv • ciiuinK. .•.'(..>. Il ii|>|)niis ihnr 1- 11 .lr|Miiv ii(l|iiliiiil j;. nniil, « Ik. iririv( h l.lH^/. » y.-ur, iintl tlliic I'. Ills,. II .lipiKy icsisliinl iiiI|iiIiimI gniniil. uli.i ini'lvrw (i.|,|/. u y(;m- 1 inr IIm itntii s ..I iiiliniiinl ^mh ml *,. Iicnvy IImiI llicy iiii^;lil mil lie |i«i iniiiiiiii liy one iMiMiii P I sluiiilil ii|<|iii'Im'iiiI Hull imc »iiiilil mil lie Miilliriciit, cnimMlcrin^ fhr iiimMint <>l duly iind llic dilDri'iil lirMcnjiliims nl liiin|>H \\U,n\\ Uuw (.lli.cm hnvii lo ».ii|nrmlcml llu' tour' ilinr is dividtd inln hm diHimcl < Iuhsi m, \Uv lliiimh li.>t«|>M iiml ih,. „„|H, lii.! 'rill' di|mis «niuili'iiniiM(i Kini'iid iccn\cs l.oi);/. 11 ynii; int. yon ii«HH' :.iit hisiliiiHs an. nimly In nivr nintrs on llm clmnnf. nl iniiirlciM. nml jlmt lliul iliun^v ».. Is not lliiii II suflincnt piool tiiiil Hvo oHiirrs nn- not in|uiird? ! luivn no doubt tliiit somi' one i* iilisojulcly r(i|iiiiiil to iinloiuiliis duties, nnd iin otliit I ciuiiiol Ik rvp.rtcd iil«i«\s to j.r ut liis post \Mt|ioiit t-vfi «n|oviiiir Inive of idlMIU'l'. .•■Jl<7. Is It luvossniy to ktcp u doul.lr .mI ol ollicrrs to .nnlilc any otliccr to «'oni<' homr on Inur oitusioiuiHv ■ My no iu< ans ; l.ui llii. iil.srmc lil an onicn on IriUf d«H\s not pitivc that tlic apponitiunii held liy liiin is unm-n-Miu y. J.'I'S, /\rt> \on awini' «h. ilui. diuiiii; Ins hIisiiut, tin v still rontinuf MvooHiciTN to dis(-luirgr till duties, m nliiilui tin dnius ot ilir t»o prisons air pnloiniid liy tlu ollivn irnminins '" "'«' »l""«l ?— I'poii tiiitt miIiJitI I would lathrr it.|i.r to ilir otlt«t; Imnstil. JJt>.). Air you ioviin- thnt the di-puly (piaiti iiniisti.r-fjnii«nil hnn liccn <«niployrd in t;ikins; siimy. ami lakiii>< the linglils o| H,, inoiuitiim!i? -Tliis in 11 point wliirii I laniivil au.<»i'i. J J70. Tin- hciui ot tin- niidiial sIhII. tin .l.puiv inspirloi-fjrm rul ol liospitids. n-fdvcs l.ooti/,. uliiU- an ulHcn i.l roiu spomlim: iitiil» at the Ciipc ol (iood llopi* receives 7 Ji) /. ; is tlun- aiiMlmiu in llic i iumiie ot ( ';i\r to tiuu uilu ti imm iliaii is htiimiJ l.y an ollinr ol roiK.spomlinn rank at till- I a|u ol (.(..III llopr It 1- on tin Miint' priiui|ilf upon whiili tlie islnnd alluwamtv aic givm; sour luuloiiiniv ot salaiv in tlie appomtineuts must he pilM'lvtd. .'-'71 I lie (-\i-<>s ol tin- uinlii-ai stnlV pa\iiii nl is analogous to tlir cxicss ol' liir lUlouaiUTf— \ 0, ol tin- Island aiiowamr. ■^'7'- And in addition to the ii» puty . ^ "" >K'i jii\t' any estiinate how many military siek tlieic were in the last retuni ■— In tli lile, «a.> I I' e nionlli ol Auuusl iu.sl tiie luiml.er ol .sick, out ot ,;,();i ran k ami ;274. Are UN MILIIAllY KSTAIU.ISMMKNrS IN llll', ( OI.ONIKS ijr 'il7'\. Ait tlii'ii! mil Iwn M')(iiiirntul iilliriitN iiUiu'liril Id riiili liiilliiliiitt, in m Idj, /(, /(-' //«y, l''.»r| tioil III III!' iiiiti linil Ntiill 'riini' MM ■JJ75. Am ytiii M I'liiii III till' niivdiiiii wnic lliiil iiiir III iliiiHt' iid'iIk'iiI ollit'crN iM;tii iin u tuiitily pliyai- Nu, I iii'vrr lii'tinl <>( il. 'i'i7li (-nit you Ntiil<' mIiuI •»«! llii' diiUi'H ol it kIuH onii'ci iit {,it\um\u)?~ Ntn I till not kiiiiw wliitt »ri' llir put itti «liiln«. J..'."?" It u|i|ifiiiii iIm' ('iiiiiiihtiiiliiiit ill I'lilliiiii in iiIm) HU|H'riiiU;iiiluMl ol it nutt limmiint tilir , hill |iHy ol tliti (ieyltiii leniiiiiiit • — Il a|i|HiiiiH no liy the rcauriii. ('ii|iliiiii llfnni Ifiilyiiiiliv, m\Ui\ in; uml Kxiiitiiiicd. aJ7i|. llOW liiiin wiini yiiu in the liliind nl (!<'yliini' N curly MiV(;ii yvtiri; riiiiii iSjIi till litM yiinr. ujKii. Will' ytin ll(lln^ rr^inioiitat duty or fitul) duly r lli);iiiii.iilul duty. J jKi. Ill wlml ii.'i^iiiiriil i - Tiin 7K1I1. ijSj. It u|i|iriini liy tliti rrtuni i liuid in my liiind, tliitt tlii^ri' ih • ili:|iiitj Hd|iitiiiit-Kciii>ial, Willi oiiioliiiiioiitH to l\\v itinouiit ol l.l'J.'i/. 11 y«mr, and uUo II d('|iiil Y asHiiliint ad|utunl ){rnri al, witli all(i»aiiri!;cncrurs ilepartiiient lliat a deputy (|uarturiimfitfr-j;eiar:il would lie ipiite Hiitlieiciit. ^Jii.j. Von have stated the alteiiition ol sy.-dem derived Inim the i;in|iloyiiient of thcM- cnnincern took place ahont Ihe litm: ol your U;avin|i the island ; are you uwan: III Ihe actuul ellecl ol the ehani^e, and the amoniit ol reliel which thi« clmn^e has produced to the «|uarteriiiaHter-geiierHl r — No, I am not; it i.s mere report. ■-!i((4. Are yon aware Ihat the deputy a.ssistaiit adjutttut-jjeneral is at this inoment in I'.ngland, on leave ot uhsence '. — Yes, Captain dusciiigne i.s in Kngland. jjy.'i. Are you aware tliat his situation is tilled uji iluriiij^ hi.s absence r — Y es, it has heeii. •2 U}t'K How has it been filled uj) ? -Filled up hy an oflicer of the .oStb, during (.'tiptilill ( itlHCoi^ne's tii)SiiHf'. ■Ji((7. Are the tr(io|is, generally .ipeaking, healthy or not.' — There are periodical .sick lesses. ■2Ui}H. Each battalion is provided with two medical ollicers? — Yes, two medical oflicers. < I Juni' l)l,'|4. ( niil llinrii lliihjiink S4 3299. It I3(i MINIJTKS Ol- FVIDENCI", UKFORK SLLECT COMMITTKK ('iii>t. lilt. 33 Juiiv IH;|4. 22()i). It apiHars liy the reluni, llmt in aildilion to liie regimcntul otKais tlurt- is II llfptily iiis|icctor-f>cn( ml of lioHpiluls, hihI l.} otliir olHcer.t of tlie mcdicul prolcsnion ; is it your opinion that m) many are nccessuiy for the Kurrigon? — Ctrtainiy ; lliey are ilispcr.sod throughout the island. •j;}oo. Attached to ililVc itiit stations ? — Y'es, otlachcd to the dilVerent stations. •j;j()i. How many ni^iits arc the troops in bed?— I do not think almvu tlircc; sonic phii-cs four, some only three, and I iiave known as few as two. a:]o-j. Do you lliink that proportion of rest esHcntiul to the troops 1 — Certainly I think tliey have too little rcht. 3;j();5. There appears to he a staft" otlicer, with pay and allowance to the amount of ,{71) I., at Colomlio ; what are his duties.' His duties are the same as a fort- inujor and town-adjutant in u garrison town. •J304, At Putiam there is a eonunandant, with 487 /. a year, and it appears there are ciidy (>7 soldiers at I'uliiun ; eun such an oHieer as that be reijuired to perform the tiuties of a commandant ? — No ; (jnite unnecessary. ■i;j(),'-,. Is there a commandant required for Uatnupoora ? -I should say it is not Bt all necessary. 2;J()(». At TVincomalee there is also u lommandant, with emoluments to the amount of i,4J4/.,aiid a staff oflicer, whose emoluments amount to the sum of 541/., and the number of troops at Trincoumlec is stated to be .'iJti; do yon think both of those otHcers are required at Trincomulec ?— Yes, both of them. •j,}()7. >\iiat are their duties? Tlie duties of tiie commandant are tlie same as at ("olondR) and Kandy ; it is the head-(|uarters of the regiment. .';](>S. At (Colombo, where there are 1,304 men, there is no commundant, and the iluly is performed by a start" otHcer; that b men ? — I do. because the major-general comnuuiding does idl the duties of the commandant at Colombo ; he resides at Colombo: but at Trincomalee the coni- mandant has all tiie eastern coast ; it is not only Trinccmalee, but he has to visit nil the posts to the north, and down as far as Hatticolao, which is at a distance of about i/jo miles. ■.>;5()(). Has he many stations to visit along the line?— No; only at IJutticolao and the northern po.^t, .latVnapatam. 2ji(>. And yet you are of ojiinion that two ofliccrs are required to do that duty? — Yes, I think they are. 2311. At Jartiia, where there are 24 men, there is a commandont, with 184/. tt year ; do \ou think that olVice is necessary ?— No, I think it is unnecessary. 231 .'. Is ii start' Mijeant necessary r- I tiiink a start' serjeant woidd be suHicient. ■J313. At IJatliculuo there are 3S men and a eonunandant, with 4'.'4 /. a year ; do you "think that orticer is necessary ?-- 1 think him unnecessary; the eonunandant at Trincomalee, with a statV oflicer, can do all the duty down that coast ; a stall ser- jeant to take charge of the military stores is suflicient. ^JH. At (ialle I see there is a commandant, with 3()it /. a year; would you think that necessary ' — I know nothing about (Jalle ; I was never there. 231,''). At Hambantotte there is a eonunandant, with only 37 men ; do you think a commandant is required there?— I never was at Hambantotte, but 1 should think J3H). At Matura tlicre are 3(> men; do you think a commandant is required there ? — I have not been there. 2317. Could you express an opinion? — I should think not more than nt Putiam and llatnapoora. 23 iS. At Kandy I sec there is a commandant, with 1,427 /., and a start oflicer, with3«)o/. ; do you think those two oflicers are required ?— Yes, I do; all tiiese statT salaries include tlie regimental pay. 2319. Have thev many duties to perform? — Yes; to visit the the interior of Kandy", and the statV-oflieer takes charge of the riuartermuster-general's depai ncnt ; he assists theii!!!!:i!!t, uith smi/. a veur, is rcjuired there? — Yes. I am. 2321. \\liat duties has he to perform ? — It is rather a disturbed part of the country ; the Kandyan rebellion arose there. 2322. Is the country still in an unquiet state?— I think very little would excite tlicm to make a disturbuiice ; they are very disaflected in that part of the countiv. 2323. Do :r*s ON MILFTAIIY ESTyVlH.lSHMKNTS IN TIIF, COLONIES. ».J7 I 2;]2[\. Do yoii think a <'(itiiiiiiiii(liiiit u rf(|iiii'e(l at ('ornc^ulle in udditioii to a !itul) otii('( r f I think liotli (|uitu ittiichH. i,'}24. Is a itiiU'Miicaiit re(|uire(i. At Itiiiiiiku Hi', is it ciiniinaniliiiit r('(|iiii(il tlun: uIho ?■ — No, I think not. 2327. At Ilairis|iHttoo, iHttC()nnnitnilMnln»;ifHsary, at I 14/. 11 year ? — I think not. •j.jjS. y\l KoiiKutlf, ist a tMirnniamlant netissary llurc, with 40S /. a year ? — I believe llii-y are K*'"if{ '<> ni'ikc that the heail-qiDtrterK ol' the regiment. .3;JJ()- V; a body of gun Lascars attached to the artil- lery ; two strong companies of troops, natives of the island, called " the armed Lascareens," who were coni-rianded by a British officer; and a small detachment of cavalry, serving more for |)urposes of escort and as orderlies than for any important military duty : there was also the Pioneer corps. 237S. Do you include in the strength of the military garrison the pioneers? — No; I should certainly not include them in the garrison. 2379. Do they perform any military duty ? — In their quarters they might, as sentinels at night ; but they do not pciforni any military duty. 2380. They are, in point of fact, labourers r — They are. 238 1 . Do you recollect w hu^ was the amount of that force ? — I do not ; because it was never under my control ; it was con.sidered rnlirtly under the direction of the governor. ■23^2. In the statement you have made of the military force, you have distin- guished between the Colonial corps and the British force ;" of what'class of natives is the Colonial corps composed ? — The Ceylon regiment is composed principally of Malays; there is a mixture of natives of oilier parts of India, hut the greater num- ber are Malays, and I consiiler them to he the very best description of native troops that could possibly he emplo\ed for ilie service'of the island. 23S3. What was the strength of the Ceylon regiments?— I think about i,<-,ot) or 1,(100 men. 2,584. Were the troops comprising the Colonial corps such as you could place coiifuiiiice in, as well in the event of an attack upon the exterior of the island, as for the ■'laintenance of tranquillity within it :— Against an external attack, I tiiink .ne fullest reliance might he placed upon them. How far they might he worked upon by disaffection in the island, I hIII not pretend tosav, but I thint they might be trusted as much us any other native troops. d be as well relied -Certainly I do. they ipon Sepoy rce I ajSti. Did anything come to your knowledge during your residence in the island yo" to imagine they might not be safely trusted?— Not a single that would lead Lieul.-gcn. Sir Hudson Lowe, K.C.B. 27 June 1834. 0.2/ r 2 cncumstancc I 140 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE HEEOllE SELECT COMMITTEE 1 '■'\ ! ■ Lu"t..g..,>. circumstance occrrcd during tl.o tern, of u.y rcsiaencc there to induce me to Sir lluilsim Lowe, ,i,:,,i- cf» ■ -ir^ 1 _J!_'':_ t/l- ^Vl."t was tlie state of the ishiud with respect to internal tranquillity ?- u7 June >834. ^'"^'^Jjj!^*;!';^)',;; t,„ ,|i,,i,,ii„e ..f the Ceylon rcsin.enls .such as you would approve r,i'rl—\^ imnd as that of any British regiment. 03S8 'Are ou uhie to state tlie dillW-uce of expense hetwceu a Colonial corps and .1 British (orDS' -No, 1 am not immediately enahled to ( o so served 11 the corps, and have settled tneie , a suppiy is m.|)i >'| but tltl-e !1 «reat' ditticultv in getting recruits of the .iescr.plu.n ot which the corp. should he composed from" Java and the neighhoming countries. ,,,.,.,„:ti„^ -"t^.. Are ylu aware whet.ier a., diilia.^ is ^;^^J^^2 1^:^:^ ctuecrtlnt the ioverninent of Iktavia should assist us m getting recruits from he l)u cl 1. net 1 have heard some objection was made to our recruiting m that iuarter ut I cannot speak with sutVuienl certainty upon the subject ^2301 WlH-n you wore in the island was there an establishment ot boys kept up - T^t-hj'r '^;^:^;^; :- Thar^Si:::;^ with respe. . recruiting of J > 1. imi _ uDtliev were enlisted into the coi ps. '^'^''^^Z::^^^'^^^^^-"-^^ «-'-'^' ^'-^ establishmeut of boys 2}.),}. '^ '->''" 3.^^ p \ 1,,^,.^ nisuallv beard so, but 1 really am not aware • r* 1 ;»uc''n' »ri.l„,.,u, in .-I,,.!, ■!.,;, ,le S-t pm«rc», 1 1,.-, -"'^;sii't":!rf;;^r;;^;t^';;;:^'™s;;r:;f - .^»io.». .23,,-. « I,. ,. 11.. 1« » '■ ' ,„ , ,„i.,;,„„,,l „|V,m,, 1 lime no .loubl, wci« so »^;;°: ;,it:r„?';s/:;;;H';;: ;'.in.-..ion a .inn.c„ nnn,,,. o.- h„,, . ,. being atlec ted ''3 ^'^^ "'',,, i „,, „„ inconvenience, thercb.re, m increasing deludud duties ha 1 l.ul.sh ' " ; J' j , j ,^ .^ ,,,^i ..iHeer in command the number ot the lormer on ^''^ J '^ > ;,^ ^, I'',,,,,,,'^ ,„, ,i,„se duties, on which would prefer having a greater body ' " ^^^^^^^ .'" , ^ ,^^, ^,,, ij^in,,, t,.o„psare ,.. nn.Jit feel a reluctance to employ ^^^^^^^^;^Zi. of the climate as much t.. be kept locked up m gar, i.o.s - \' 'J^^ 'f, ;! ; ,, ,, ,,o „.,t stand the climate ::t;i"rr ::;;;:::^reanr :;Xr^.e ^.laced without ,ong dday ana greater cost. principle so far as to conreist: tiiat the whole be nmi.-h troops. ..viM-i-in-." n.fer. to «hat may be considered „-:;„! :;!;sr:iu,ur, ^i, -u, ^; .« .,«^».;™ .o.. ;..»,. ™n,» only way in « hid. an ttllcrat.on could k' made, « ould Ik., pt. hap. , ^ ^^^^^^^^ ON MILITARY RSTABUSIIMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 141 pitil. TIk' a small litgret! the number of the native iroops. It would, however, h;; a very delicate matter to rccommcmJ a reduction of the public force on the island. 23()t). With reference to the jMiuce estahlishmeut, do you entertain that opinion r With reference to the peace estahlishnicnt, entirely. 2400. You have already stated tiiat you think tho native troops which are employe;etlier under native troops. 2402. 'riie(|uestiondoes not relcrtoau entire reduction of the British force, but only to a partial reduction, and a substitution of native troops in their place ; to any considerable extent do you think that might be done? — I shoidd not counsel a reduction of the military force on tiie Island of Ceylon at all. I do not think it prudent or advisable ; but if I were called upon to state the minimum to which the British force mifiht with any degree of prudence and safety be reduced, 1 should say tiial ti)ere siiould be at least three strong regiments, with a detachment of artillery and a proportionate increase of native trotjps, so that there would be au absolute reduction in tiie number of the whole. 2403. Tlien your suggestion would be a diminution of one British battalion, and a corresponding increase in tiie C;olonial force?— I wish to be understood that I do not iiresunie to suggest any alteration ; Imt if I am asked the minimum to which it might i)c possible to lower the British force, it would hv what I have stated, three British regiments and two native regiments ; but I would not recommenil it, nor say that it was advisable. J404, What do vou mean by the amount of the force being three strong regi- ments?—! think there should he about 2,00(1 British troops, including the artillery. 240'5. Are you aware that the establishment of rank and file in the year i82(> amounted to 4,()<)(), and that at tiie period of tiie last returns it amounted to ;},73J, showing a reduciion of i,J(uS ?— No, I am not aware of that detail. 24t>(i. What « as the disposition of the native inhabitants, generally speaking, towards this country, while you were there?— They appeared very well disposed. 2407. Then the garri.'^on which yon consider as absolutely necessary lor the peace establishment, is that for the purpose of internal police and the safety of depots ill dillerent parts of the island ?— Yes, and detachments in dilleient parts of the island, supposing the disposition of the inhabitants to be i|uite peaceable. 040S. You should think, witii a native population perfectly well disposed towards this country, the garrison you iiave stated is not more lliiiii sutVicientr— -I should tliink it was not more than huihcieut with refeience to the extent (it the island. 2401). Are you of opinion that the numerous detachments which appear by the returns were necessary for the general government of the island r— I believe many ofthedttachmeiits are intended to give a kind oi' support and consideration to the civil authoiilies. They must have >onio troops with them lor that purpose, other- wise they must have" attendants of anotlur description, as in India; peons, lascarecns, the exieuseof whom would be as great, if not git ater. 2410. And available for any other service ?— Available for all purjioses. I think the Ceylon regiment is particularly availalile in that way. The men are much fitter for einployi'ieiit of that nature than Briti>h troops. 241 1 . There are 1 ,;5()0 or 1 ,400 troops at Colombo , is so large a garrison re(iuired there'-'- 1 do not think (piitc so large a garrison is ie(iuired ; I think it might be .somtwhat reiluced. 2412. To what extent do you think it might be reduced?— I shouhl perhai>- say, if I were there to distribute" the troops, I would have an Engli-'-h legimciit with artillery, and a portion of native troops. I shouhl be satisfied with that arrange- ment. 241.;. Would i.uou men bo siilhcieiit? — Yes, I should think i.ouo men, com posed in that way, would be suHicient. 2414. Do yon think b(tween ,-,('•• '""' '""• '"*^" ""' ic«inied in the garrison of Trincdnialic": — The garrison has been sometimes less; b>t 1 should think between 0,25. « ;{ 5i>i> «»d I.ieut.-gen. .Sir Hudson Imwc. K.C.B. 27 June 1834.. .42 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE , Licut-gen. 500 and 600 is the least there should be. It is a imval st.itinn wi.„ u- thee hinm'^'l"'"'","'"'"'' "* """f^ ""'" '« '''^^"'"t^ly necessary P-^lltS he ,»|and „, case ot emergency. There are few troops o" 'he southern ^-oS of soldier but tliere was a lar-e n)ilitary cantonment in the nej.'hbourhood • md tinw assistance thus obtained. J419. Would it be an economical arrangement to brin« troops from India =_ I believe it would be attended with very great expense. India.— 24L'o. Are not your observations made in reference to rhp «t..to «fn.» id a ^luring the period in wl.ich you had command there?-?,,: are eSely ''"^ 2421. Do you consider that the necessity of fivin.r thp P«t«l.llcl.m..^t greater or less in proportion to the augmented SIao^tft^Zd ^Tdo rwaT'th;.'",""! '" '""r" "''•^•'' ^-"^ '"^^'^ ''"^'" P'-*^ in the ,0 1 tlon ice 1 was there has been such as to make any material difference 242^'- Are you aware, by a census taken in 1825, the population of the island amounted to 7,50.000 persons, and at the present mou^nt it Loun °o u o. 8 '- I question whether suHicicnt reliance could be ,,laced upon the census tal?en\; the hrst period referred to, so as to form an opinion upon it -•42 J. In answer to the question of more or less troops at Colombo, Trincomalee Randy and elsewhere, is the Comn.ittee to understand that whTyou assm to a reduc ion at any one place, you do so upon the supposition tha t i a ma , • o distribution only, and is not to atfect the number of trLps genera ly I at Tu Le said were necessary tor the defence of the i.lar.d '-Certainly a mlitter ot I h? t'ntion only, and not to alfect the generahmuuint of force ^' '"' ^i^^^'^i "'^'' '"'" '/'f'' ""^ nrcumstances connected with the Island of Ceylon u, in your mind have rendered the existence of tlie number of small n.^s vtlich appear upon the ofhcial returns ot the islands necessary ori-inally o jus hab in continuance .—I think there has been a reduction in theTiuSr fSe , OS s during the tm.e even when I was there. The necessity had eel ed eS o the preservation ot some ot the posts. Those posts ux-re ..stablished in he n eiior during the time of the rel,ellion. un.l had been retaine.l re era ea a ' ' ,.' ' '"^ " "^■'-•'-^^"'^y. ""'. "> pioportion as it was observed that tranqnillitv V as cstored the pu.ts were diminished or withdrawn. There are no se , a e .h.t..chments, I believe, now, ev-ept at posts where there are coliectorsh s o X .ollecto,>h,p.s, or government agents an.l thev are kept up more as a kind of support to the authoritKs than for any real nnlilary purpos ; t y are of c^rl- -42.'5 \Vhat unties are executed by the officers, who appear by the returns ... 1 e sts led commandants, o. several of the small posts ?-ln some po^ts these office gSr'aiid'^oiKr"'""'""^' "' "''-'' '''^-' - «--"-- "^--. - 2420. In the event of an nfficer being required for a specific purpose do vou CO iisi. er It would be expedient that he should be unsupp.ated btsTr'nihta v < . tae imentr- 1 think it woul.l be unadvisable. There .hould be- so, le itarv «ic.achment to support the civil power. If there is no such detachine.U of mil!;lr;^ lie i fcr ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 143 he must have peons orlascareens to execute his orders. The nature of the climate and of tlie people renders that necessary. An officer thus situated cannot do every tlnng himself ; he must have people to carry his orders into effect, and he may obtam that assistance from the military force with him 2427. Without goinj; through the detail, are we to assun.'c, as a basis, that when the.e arc no c.vd du les to perform in addition to military duties, are the com- mandants m command o small detachments required?- 1 think where a military force .s requisite m the Island of Ceylon, it is betler. however small that force S be, to send an officer with it. •' .hnMt^rnffl" ^'T^rri'' ""k"*'"' r'"'-'''"""' '" the employment; is it necessary that that officer should have the emoluments of commandant in cases only of smail detachments under h.s command ?-Not perhaps on account of the nature of the dutieshe has to discharge, but some allowance must be made for the si uatbn n which he IS placed : u ,s very often a situation of great privation and inconvenience and the stations are sonielimes very unhealthy. I ,„ay here mention a circ .! stance w^hich occurred under my own particular notice: I had visited a post "„ the coast during a tour of inspection round the island; I found a captain of to Cejlon regiment stationed there, and I lo.lged at his quarter while there A ve y fe« dnvs after I had left the spot wluTe he was, I heard of the death of himseU S' diseases of the climate. Ofhcers sent on such duties are, of course, very much exposed, and appear therefore entitled to some consideration ^ detachment r— I consider officers so situated to be subjected to great privation • '2ere S'h"''' '"'" '^" '''"'''' "'"'"'' '"^^'"^' -"^^''"- " 'uiln' Sg to to h"*^?" ^.'V'^P^'"'^"' "f »>;e n"«-'st'"n of personal privation, do you think the risk n £ bn -CcS: '; : ri '^'"^':r* '^"^'^ '^'«" *" -- concLtra.ed posUiont m cejion r Ctrtftinlj, I think so, with respect to many of them. ♦hn^"*^'"]! ""^^ ^"" V' occasion to consider the possible difference of expense ha would arise from the employment of civilians for the execution of c v 1 du ies th.U lu some cases are performed by a commandant, as coinpare.l with the execul o, of that duty by a m-luary man.'-I should suppose the duties may be ,'c'^rmed by m 1 ary men ; yo.i mean, in case there are ni officers in the civif depa' men 24.}^>. Assuming a certain duty is to be performed in a particular cist ict and consec,uei.tly some person must be appointed for the perlornlance of h Im' yot would not see any great economy in the substitution of civilians for milita y ..en" —No; I should certainly sav, no economy ^ " recou.st to the half-caste and natives, it might possibly be done ^ ^-434. Are you not of opinion, that the duties beinij of a military natu... •„. offio^^aecustomed ,. habits of discipline is a much fitterl.eLn U a a cW ^(P- brni^'?".. .'.' y°" ""! "''"^f'at having exercised these duties qualify an off-|ccr SXu '.h^kydS'the::; """""""^ ;'■"' "^ ...ay a,ter«ards He pIL^d l!Z X .iiuu... uiuiK It does , there are mixed duties to pertorm 2430. Do you not think that the character itself of an' .Mr.-r in #!.„ ■ '* =437. It Lieut.-gen. Sir Iludion Lotui ■ K.C.B. 37 June 1834. 144 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Sit Lieut.-geii. Sir Hudson Lore, K.C.B. «7 June 1 834. 2437. It appears by the Return, that all the officers on thp ,tnff..f r„ 1 a considerubly larger island allow.mcethan Xer Ta"; o L^,^^ S state to the CnmmiffP^ ar.„ ....:, f..„.._ . . ""X "'"ei colonics. Can you ^439- ^ft' yon aware that since thp vpmp i«.r, .i>„ : 1 j n 2440. Are the troops at Ceylon furnished witli barrack nmrfor, ? Ti, 1 r are but not t,,,. „fti ,„, ,{ i,,^^., ^^ ^.^^. ;hTi r olf o ^ i^ ' ''^ """" Nor^^'tifeX;.'""' " --'^' ^'--'-Per arrangement to bl^ild^Uacks ?- M.a;Sn !nai^;;rs^:;Li :':ei!r"^ ^-^- -^^ ^-. - ve., cheap, a 2444. No contnigeneies are allowed -—None Mllh re.pcct lo Ih,- soMiirs, I rati,.-, tl,i„k Sir Kuli„o I)o„k , h„m 1 .1 ir pm!nf„fL:IlnKlll'rj,; t''""''^ « Ceylon ?-N„. I „,i„k ™:r,L';,;,^';s^l;:;l:'rJ;r>^^^^^^^^^^ 244(j. What vvi.s the price of butchers' meat when you were there =- F thint v £: tt^t L^i:r=tn:;;;;t-t.;r;:;n^^^ coes not go so far as a few pounds of good n.eat 3 ,'n i,", "!;^ I .eally cannot now g.ve the Conun.ttee any lurther nnnu.e ilnnai;:;/;;:'^ fr^^EiJlX """ '"""" '"" '""" "' '-«'-J- Ves it .s, when not imported •-'4.)i. There is no duty upon il-— Very little duty. ^4,»i- Are articles from articles are very expc nsive. way of Bombay and the Europe very expensive ? -Certainly ; all European ti.n'ut ^"rrnllhnd V'' Tl '" "T"^ '^•"'"" "^ "^"'^ "'•'= «-"^- "' ^-y'"" liave friends more than in the ifh young officers caimoi I service must be well awi ivc Ujiull tikir pay; |)iM .-.ons why cKMf f,, enable junior oHicers to defray tl r. lit that. The pay at Ceyl on IS not England the pay alone is not .sufl icient. ay their expenses; but in -'455. Have ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. ,45 2455. Have you served in any other colony ?— I have served principally in the Mediterranean. 1 iiave not hcen in the West Indies. 24,5(). Should you not say that the pay received by an officer at C uld give liim a j.rcat(>r command of luxuries tliun the pay of an officer in »''C M tcr- rancan r-It depends upon the rank of tlie otficcr. I do not cons. "• .t the style ot livms is particularly luxurious at Ceylon. I believe it is not so expensive as It IS in India. ^ 24,57- But as compared with the Mediterranean ?-I should not think that an officer would he able to live up..n his pay in the Mediterranean as he might be able to do upon his pay and allowances at Ceylon. 24.';8. The., in point of fact, it does give him 'a <;reatcr command of the con- veniences ot liter— 1 he pay certainly would enable him to obtain a greater command of conveniences at Ceylon than it would in the Mediterranean However, I should say, as a matter of convenience, it is necessarv for an officer to keep a horse in such a place as Ceylon ; and 1 do not think he could afford to keep one without some extra allowance. A horse, in fact, is almost indispensable : lor unless the officer has a palanquin, he cannot move about the country 24.59. AVould not a captain, who is in the receipt of 13/. 18, v. a month in he mi'-Tt '•egnnental pay, be able to keep a horse at Ceylon ?— I should think 24(io. Your observations are conlined to the subaltern?— Yes, they are The subaltern cannot, as I conceive, keep a horse upon bis allowance 24bi. Ino officer below the rank of captain would, you think?— Certainly not • It would require great economy indeed on the part of an officer under the rank of ciipttiin. 2462, Arc you aware whether the pay and allowances to the military were at bat period j^reater than they are at the present mo.nent?-I am not aware whether any alteration has beei» made since I was at Ceylon-. i.l.uuf-^V r''"l' "'! ^^""^T ''^^"'■'' l^'^ Committee, it appears that there are in the island of Ceylon two officers in the adjutant-general's department: do you con- sider ihat tao officers are re.p.i.ed for that service, or that o.ie of them could be Is ufbr .:; i ; •""/ '''?'" -I'l ''r ^t^- '^^y "^ "'^- ^^^i^tant-general-s dep'tmen L oflt d, Tl "^ '"*""'''' "»-' "»"^« ''"'y. «"'' I'"' 'H:tive duty. I c.mceive he ofl.te duty ot the .lepartment ic.p.nes that there should be always an officer on tliespot, at whatever may be the head-quarter station of the troops, to attend to the nf,T .T' ^" ''"'"'? '■'=l'"^!^fr"'" regiments, to transmit general orders, and to conduct the correspoiulence with the out-posts. Fo,- these purposes, there should be an officer ot the department on the spot at all times; whether the governor o comma.uler-m-ch.et IS present or absent that officer cannot be dispensed with at head-quarters. ()., the other baud, the active duties of the department may nqiiire that an officer should be employed in visits of inspection, and in a tt^ kS UI.0.. he ge.,e.al officer ,., command, whe.iever the latter moves anyahe.-e, not as It tbc.c ue.e only one ofl.cer in the .lepartment, this twofold duty would not be ™"ra':;"Sr- " " '- '- '"~"™''- ■""■ "-- " -" ■■■'■'»■ •■' ^""«^« :;4('4- Then is it necessary there should be a second officer '- nic to be necessary, tor the reasons which 1 have stated. ,jf^' 1\" ?"" co.iside.-, the island being in a state of profound peace, with a ou ,n ," " ."f :r'" '"" "T' ''"■^'-' ^'^""«'"»' ""^" ""'y. the troops sehlom chan 'in' qia.le.-,s. that there can be any necessity for an adjiitant-grneal an.l an assisTan? ml,utant-g. n.ral, particularly as there are so n.any con„„a",dants=-Wi b ™ miHvTf'Tl '/'Si' r"'*' ''"'' ""'' ^ ''"^•^' ■' ^'""^' '" "'^ »'i"J '^^ to the pro 1 tyot that tile being given to every officer who is in command of a deticb- ink r. IhI T- ' ■";, ''f " •'^■tachment, he is called a commandant, an lied ''7 "^ '>^1'^'^''>"'J^'- »,"l' tl'ree or tour exceptions, that title ought not to be Pll.e.l. Inmanycas.s when the gene.al officer in com.nand of "the troops is •ItMious to have an inspection made, or in the event of any complaint or disturb- nnce ar.su.g ,vh,d. it ,s necessary to inquire into, there is no officer who cud be n,o,e ,,roper!v .-.np oy.d ,han the deputy a.ijutant-g.ncrai or lus assis.aiu e is almost the only ^tatl officer at the dispo.sal of the governor or general officer i eom.na.id, there being no brigade! major. .^e"e•a. omcer in -•4()0. Is the number of our stations calculated to increase or diminish the duty '• of -Yes, it appears to Lieut.-gen. Sir Iludioa Luut, K.C.D. ay June 1834. I I.ioiit -cfn. Sir ttuilson Lour, K.c B. 27 June 1834. : 146 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE HEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE of the iuljut«iit-};rneiars depm tinent ? — The addition or diiniiuition could not he mcli as to make any niattriul ditl'erence. 2467. Are you aware of the extent of stnft' in the Ionian Isiuniis ? — Not at pre- sent ; I was durinf» the war, because I war, then scrvinj; there. •i4. 2,512. Have you visited the principal parts of the island ?— I have. 2.51.5. What is your opinion of the native troo|)s r—There is one regiment there at present composed of .Malays principally, which I consider excellent troops. 2.514. Do you consider them ecpial to the IJritisli troops for the garrison duty of Ceylon ?— For many parts of it superior, in a sickly season, but only on that account, as they are not so liable to fever. 2,51,5. Do you consider that for all the ordinary duties of the colony, they are quite efliciont ? — I consider they are for all ordinary duties. 2,51(1. Do you not think that the innnber of native troops might be increased, and a p/oportionate reduction made in the amount of the liritish troops, the native troops being otVuiTcd principally, if not entirely, by Europeans?— I know it is the opinion of many that the native troops are considered superior for the interior in the case of insurrection, but nothing of that kind is to be apprehended now ; and perhaps the Eia-opean troops might be reduced. There are four regiments there at present, and I shoidd think one European regiment might be reduced without the necessity of increasing the native troops, 2.517. It appears by the return which you now hold in your hand, that there is a deputy adjutant-general and a deputy ussistant-adjiitant-general ; the troops being stationary or principally so, do you not think fh;it a reduction of one of those oth- cers might take place without any prejudice to the service"— At Ceylon the duties are very distant ; the troops there are nuuh detached, and I should think that in the event of one being necessary, which of course is, that a second was also necessary. 2.518. On the military staff there is an aide-de-camp and assistant-secretary, added to which there is a military aide-de-camp to the governor, besides all the civil appointments; do you think with so large a stalf as that, there is a necessity for the deputy assistant-adjutant-general r —The climatic is very uncertain at times, and I consider that a second oHicer is not an uiniccessary expense. 2510. With respect to the medical staff, it appears that besides the deputy inspector-general ol the hospital, there are 13 assistants on the staff, exclusive of all regimental medical officers ; does that large establishment arise from the neces- sity of having a medical oliieer at every station ?— It does ; and it fre(|uently hap- pened that there were not medical olhcers sutlicient for every station in the island ; I think there are if) or 17 ollicers' .stations in the island ; at most of them there is only one otliccr connnanding and in charge of the post ; but it mav be at the dis- tance of .50 or (i(t miles from another, and it is ab.solutely necessary to have a medical orticer there. J.5 JO. But do you think it absolutely necessary to have so many military .stations, considering that the island is in a state of trani(uillitv ■ Mo A of tin- military stations there are connected with the colonial ailmim.Ntration, and freciuenily stations of civil ollicers, who have, what are there calkd, cuteherics, and freiiuently they have considerable sums of money in their cutcheries ; but lor the defence of the islaiul, 1 should not consider it necessary. *'*'5' >• J •-•,521. Then, Cnpt. /t. liroun. I .July 1834. I 11 1. m Cttfl. A. liruwii, I July 1834. L-jo MINUTES OF RVIDF.NCK nFFOUF SELRCT C(JMMITTF.K •j/jii. 'riicn, ill f.itt, they arc nnployed more as police than lu military?— Tiie imlive troojis are, but not the I',iir()|n'an!i. J.5i2. Aretho.se stations occupied by native troops? — Principally. a.iaj. Are there not many o( those stations to which your remark, in relation to the finance department, docs not apply? -There have been considt-iablc changes m (Vyjon since I left it ; I believe the cufchcries have been reduced in number, but oCthat I am not certain ; 1 uiii not so competent to give information on (piestion.s reiatinj,' to the revenue as upon otiier points. 2524. Without ttoinj^ into the detail of the different commandantships, are you of opniion generally, that some reduction in the numbers nnght be nmde?— Cer- tandy, I am of that opinion. 2v.J,5. Have you ever served in the West Indies:— I have. 2,52(1. Do you consider the cliumte of Ceylon more injurious to Europeans than that ()» tlie West Indies ?-— The deaths in proportion at Ceylon are not so nmiicrous, I dare say, as in the West Indies; but 1 think the climate affects the constitution more than the West Indies. •Jrt.i7- Is there anything in the climate of Ceylon which renders a lan'cr propor fion of the luxuries of life necessary than in the West Indies r—Ccrtainfy not. i-'V^S- But. nevertheless, the allowances to all the olHcers, both stalldfiiccis and regimental officers in Ceylon, are infinitely larger than they are in the West Indies, are they not ?— They are larger considerably to the otficcis of rank, tliat is, above the rank of captain; but to the juniors they are not, I think. 2529. Are you not aware that a captain receives while doing regimental duty, 13/. i(),v. sterling per month, in addition to his regimental pay, and that if lie commands a battalion he receives 23 /. i).v. ? — Yes. •2.530. Are there any pecuniary allowances made to officers in the West Indies ofa corresponding amount?- None that 1 am aware of, except at .lamaica, where I have understood they have a colonial allowance, and I know they liave at Dei.ie- raia and Ikrbice, but not in the other West India islands. 253 1 . Do they receive any allowances in the West Indies which are not received by the officers in Ceylon?— Yes; the usual allowaiuj for house-rent, if not in barracks, and for coals and candles. 2.532. Is fuel a very import;fiit item in :i tropical climate =— I should think not. 2.533' What docs a captain or subaltern pay ordinarily for lodgings in Ceylon:'' — Perhaps from 4/. to not an officer, including the captain upwards, receive a considerably larger allowance in Ceylon than he does in the West Indies?- He does, certainly. 2.5 jy. Have the soldiers any extra allowance? — No. 2.540. Siip|)osiiig then anything be atttribiited to the climate by way of accounting for the increased allowance of the olhcei-s, does not the .soldier require it more from his being more exposed than the olficer ?— Why, the mode of living ofa soldier is very different to that of an officer ; his table expenses are trifling, and the common necessaries of life in (Jeyloii are remarkably cheap ; but anything like luxuries are very expensive indeed. 2541. Are such articles as wine and colonial produce so expensive us tliey arc in this country? - It depends on the supjily ; sometimes inucli more so, and at other times perhaps wine not more so. 2542. Is not wine duty free or nearly so?— Wine is duty free; lint a hin'e per-eentage is reijuired on it by the merchant. " ° -,i43- Is "ot wine cheaper than it is in England ?— I do not think it i.s. 2544. Have you ever been employed on detachments in the West Indies or elsewhere before you went to Ceylon ^—Ves, in the West Indies, I was the chief any rations?— Nothing beyond his pay and colonial ON MILITARY ESTAMLISIIMKNTS IN THE COLONIES. 151 chief of inv own dctmitmont in the island ; there is an officer of engineers in most islands in the vVost Indies. •i.')4.V Eroni what you know of the f,'enerul rules of the service in the West Indies, 1110 yon prepared to say whether oflieers reeeive any extra ullowunce on detaehments ! — None that 1 ever heard of. j,')4(i. On what prineij)ie is it then that otVuers when detaehcd on the diffe- rent stations as commandants in (;eyl(tn reeeive the extra allowance mentioned in the return '. — I suppose it is to cover the addition.d expense to which they are suhject. •J,'>47. In what respect ?- Individuals passing along from one part of the colony to aiu)ther almost always stop with the commandant at the station, there being no inn at the place. ■2;S4i<. Arc such calls on his hospitality frequent ?— Not very frequent. ■.',')49. When oflicers are delacheil at Ceylon in the position of com- niandants, have they not frequent duties to perform which are wholly independent of their military duties— duties of a civil or of a reveimc nature? — They have ; but in general they have extra allowance for su( h duties. •i.-j/io. Hut in cases where they have no extra allowance beyond the pay of the commandant, is there any analogy to be derived from otlicers on detachments in the West Indies, thatcculd regulate the judgment of the Committee with reference to this allowance in Ceylon ; have officers on detachments in the VVest Indies any other thin military duties to discharger— None. i/j/ii. The oHicer at Ccyhm is unprovided with quarters, and has to provide binuself with quarters out of his allowance"' — Yes. ^.'i.'i-i. The soldier is provided with barracks?- -Yes. 2.55)3- Has the staff officer at Colombo any duties of a civil nature to perform r — Not that I am aware of. 2,').'54. Has the commandant at Trincomalee any civil duties to perform as col- lector of the revenue, or such like."— I am sua prepared to say whether he has or not ; I think he has ; but I am not certain. I think he is in connexion with the oflicers of the civil service there. ■2,'ir).')- Hi"* tl't-' staff officer under him any of those duties to perform ? — No. ■2^,^)6. Has the officer at Ji'ffna any? — No. 2,5.',7. At Hatticaloa? — No •2558. At (Jailer— No. ^ry'iih At Hambantolle ? — I rather think the ofTicer at IfambantoIIe has some- thing to do; but nothing of con.se(|uence. 'i.'jifio. Anything to justify an increased allowance? — No. 25()i. At .Matura ? — No. 2,5(")2. At Kandy ? — Yes. •2,')ti3. \\ hat arc those duties?- -He is one of the conmiissioncrs ; there was a board of commissioners when I was in India, but that has been abolished since, 1 believe. '.',')ri4. \Vliat was the commission for -—There are three commissioners ; a com- missioner of revenue, a judicial commissioner, and the conunandant of Kandy, who is at the head when they sit in connnission. 25(1,'). Doe:) that connni.ssiou still exi.st 1 — I do not know ; I believe it does not. 2,5t)(). if it does not exist, his civil functions have ceased, have they not ? — Certainly. 2.')t>7. He has no other? — No. 2^,bH. His staff officer has no civil duty ? — No. 2,569. Has the commandant at i'ort .M'Dowal any civil duties to perform ?-- None. Cllflt. J. UlUU-D, -He h.is civil duty toper- some magisterial duties to 2,'')7o. Has the officer .it Kotmalle any civil duties ?- form ; but I rather think he is paid for it. He has perform. 2.-;7i. liut with respect to those who have no magisterial duties to perform, arc not their duties in point of fact very light ■ — i cannot .say that they are severe. .',-,7.'. Have you frequently had working parties under your eounnand ?— Yes, freuuentlv : thev wert direction. not uuder my immediate coni'nand, but under my -.)/ 3. What is the extra allowance made to the soldier when employed on work- ing parties;— Pioneers have been principally employed as we; king parties O'-''). L' 4 there are ,)uly i8j4. 1,52 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEl'OllE SELECT COMMIITEE m Capt. A. Brown, are two or three companies of Caff'res beloni^ing to the Ceylon establishment, who ; • were employed as working parties while I was in the island. 1 July 1834. 2574. Did they receive extra pay as such r — They received about 4(1. a day. 2575. Were the pioneers a separate corps ? — .'\ distinct corps. 2.')7'). ^Vas it equally economical to employ those pioneers as to employ common labourers : — In many instances labourers could not easily ha^e been procured when the pioneers were employed. 2j77. On the whole, you think it more expedient to have that corps of pioneers.-^ — \'es, certainly. It was i.joo strong ; it was reduced to i.oou when 1 left the island. 2.578. What was the extra allowance to officers on working parties when you were there'— Seven shillings and sixpence a day. 2.579. Had not that been increased fr<)»i4A'. r — No, they were not considered as officers of working parties ; they wore absent from their corps, and each assistant-engineer had charge of a division of pioneers and received 7 ,v. a day or 7*'' '''Z- ' on those occasions there is so much exposure to the sun from morning to night, that it makes it but just to give an extra allowance. 25^0. Was any otlicer appoiiiled for the sole ])urpose of paying the worli-'g parties or the corps of iiioncers: — Each assistant-engineer paiil his own division monthly, the amount being sent to him l)y the oilicer commanding the pioneer corps, whose extra allowance is i,5.v. per diom. 2.5S1. Ill what description of labour were those men ])rincipally employed ? — Koads and bridges. There were some employed at Colombo at the public build- ings and barracks, and some at Kandy. 2.582. Have not civil engineers been sent out lately? — They have, and who have now the ch: rge of the roads and bridges. 2,")8,5. During the time that work was performed under the superintendence of the military orticers, were the duties of tlie ijuartermaster-general much increased in consequence r — They were. 2584. His time was in consequence very much occui)ied ? — It certainly was ; because there is generally a jjoriion of the roads under the quartermaster-general, and a porti(Hi iiiuicr the etigiiieei 's dcpartnient, and the extent of it depended on the time that could be given by tliosc dejiartnients to such duty. 258,5. Was there a complaint on the part of the (piartermaster-gcnerars depart- ment of having more work than they could get through at one time.- — 1 have never heard of it. 258(1. If when they had so much additional labour, as compared with what they have at present iinpo.sed on them, a (le|)uty (juarterma.ster-gi'iieral and a deputy assistant-(juarterniaster-general were found suliicicnt lor all the duties of the department, do you not think that under the ])resi'nt system, the civil engineers having I'clieved them of so large a portion of their labours, that a reduction might be made in the (luartermaster-generars department;-'- The zeal aud energy of botii tile ollicers in the (luartermaster-generars department enabled them to get through their duties with much pleasure. It is not so severe now; imt I should suppose, on the s, leprincijile whiih I viewed the adjutant-general's department, that two oUiiers wcru still necessary. 25S7. Are you aware the deputy <|uarterinaster-general ha.s been employed to make Mirveys of the heights of the mountains?—! am :Mt aware that he has been em])li)yi'(l liy the orders of (ioverniueiit in that »\ay. 2588. ^\ oiild it be possible to carry on the system of roads and bridges through a wild country witlioiit l;;l.ing ,the profile of the country, which, in otiur words, is taking the altiiude of mountains.''' -They had to trace out lines of the road, aud I had to trace out lilies of the road. 1 know the (piarterinaster-geiioral took the greatest pains with most positions of the island. 2')Xi.). On the supposiiion that every reduction is to be made practicable con- sistent with the efliciency of the service, do you not think that one ofllcer in the (piartermaster general's depaitimnt might be reduced: — It is impossible to say that it might not, but I should say that it ought not. 2,51^0. In pr()|)ortioii as the civil engineer tends to relieve the (|iiarterma.ster- general from duties which hitherto the latter oilicer lias performed, is not the (nie-ilion of di^iienMny; uiiii one of those oiricers raiseg earned mo cf ect. would not that still further reduce the dutS of the quar ennaster-generalr-It .s generally applicable that the staff should cor respond w.th the number of troops employed; but still the extent of trdutyTn the (juartermaster-gcnerars department would be very great ■2592. Are not the troops stationary generally for three years in their quarters' -Not always so; sometm.es I have known them moved in much less time 2.593. Are they not stationary generally for about three years ?-I think'l never knew any regnnent stationed so long as three years, during the time I was in the 2594. From two to three yearsr-Sometimes one year, and sometimes two • I do not think I ever knew any so long as three. ""'ciuncs iwo , 1 ao Veneris, 4" die Jiilii, 183-! RIGHT HON. SIR JOHN BYNG, IN THE CHAIR. Captain Gascoytw, call d in ; and Examined. «„f''-A^" .y^^^T rnilitaiy situation have you filled in the island of Ceylon "'-De- Evnir " ''^'^J"'"'"-^^"'-''-"'' ""'I I ''■''' ■'^^ «ne time aide-de-camp to\Sir Robert 2,51)6. How long have you been acquainted with the island ^-Sixteen vears •J,)97. Have you served in Ceylon during the whole of that period -—I have served uninterruptedly in the island for 1.5 years. ' ' '-.WS. You are now ai)scnt on leave ?-^Ves. 2.109. AV'hen did you leave Ceylon r— In .March iS3,3 nffffr*.^^ '"'^ '*"' *° y.*?";, T'.'"^ home?-The recommendation of a medical attendant, on account of ill health. "iciutai 2(>()i. Is thi.s the first European leave you have ever applied for ^— Yes 2O02 Ihe Committee have before them the present amount of force in the IS and of Ceylon : what is your opinion as to the' extent of force requS in that island for the peace establishment :—As far as I am able to give an o,Snion s .0.1 d think the present establishment of force is the least that^can wel? n Z, the duty, I mean m point of number. I'l^nuim 2(io.5 As you are aware that at the present moment there are in the island of Ceylon four Prit.sh regiments, together with the colonial force, do you think con «.stently with the opinion you have expressed as to the mainte, ancJof trpresent numerical orce of 3 Jeoinen, that it would he expedient to alter the Relative .ropor urn between the insular portion of that force and the British ?-I is S. jtc have not considered ; m .some respects, perhaps, it might be beneficial. if i" ?! „."".■"■•' •' l'"!l" """ ''"'' ."V '"'""f^'^-"'^'"' »'>"l^l I'o productive of economy If It did not dimmish the means of defence f-Yes. it certainly would. ^ 2()(),v Have you served in the colonial force yourself -^—xNever 260... In the Ceylonese regiment ?-I have never done anv duty with them • I .as the. captain of a regi.nent. but whilst in Ceylon I have dway/been emll;e.t of&>;^;:i::^vrr;:lrf;im:'^^"''"^^ -'•"^' --^ "- -"- 2(.()S. That corps consisting, and having consisted durin.r the period of vonr residence ,n Ceylon, of different descriptions of natives, to wh 1 K pt , of native orce are you inclined to give the'preferencel^-l'ndoubtedl t lie M J .09. In what respect do you think they are superior to the iepoy or Sre de -(iiii. Is the Malay force a for jM'ct !(>.)• -JoldierH than any other native force I have seei clence ni iiiilitary operations • Certainly I should, tl„ 2011 In point of discipline, are tliev to be relied ■ce ill which you, as an ollicer, would place conli- quite in such a high state of discipline 0,2 le greatest confidence ii|)on ■- Yes; they are not is maintained generally in I'.uropeaii regiments. Capt. G'licoyne, 4 July 1834. 154 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE UEIOHE SELECT COMMITTEE Capt. Oascoyne. regiments, in consequence of the nature of the service in which they ure enj^iiged (lispersiii-^ thcni ail over tlie island. Tliere is but a small portion of tlie refj;iment 4 July 1834. at head-quurters. The Malay portion of the regiment consists, or should consist, of about 1,000 men, of which not above 300 or i]^' are usually at head-quarters. 2612. To what services are the native force applied '. — Principally in aiding the civil power, in doing duty over the ditierent gaols, guarding prisoners employed at hard labour, furnishing escorts for the commissariat, stores and provisions ; for money, gunpowder, &c. ; and a portion of them are employed also in protectiug the salt-pans in two different districts in the island. 2(113. For these services do you conceive the Malay portion of the Ceylon rciiiment are equally eligible with the European troops? — The European troops could never do the duty. 2t)i4. lor what reason :— On account of the influence of the climate on the European constitution. 2tii.). Can you inform the Committee whether any and what alterations have been made in the way of reduction of pay, and the bounties on recruiting in the Ceylon regiment- — Not very long before I came away, there had been a reduction in the pay of the .soldicis, of 2(1. per diem, and in each rank of the native aiul iion-connuissioucd olVicers ; but what the reduction in the native officer's pay is, I do not know. The native soldier used to get 8 -■ "'«'-^- stea, y in their La-its^and in con equencc better .soldiers and more efficient non-commissioned officers 26.7. In the event of military operations, you would have considered them, by Uiat pev.ous education, more attached and more faithful to the British service '- I ■': **''""'*•'','"'' -T- ^ f '""'•' '^''^''' "^'' *'y''t<-'n' of enli.stin.r boys was not regiment ' '' ' "" '^"^^ "'"' ''"«^" ''"'' ""^" boys^a, Xcrio K 2(;28 Has any dithculty been produced by the mixture of these different tribes in the (eylon regiment ?-'l here .s always a difficulty in uKu-ntaining a uni on S of sy.stem in di.sciplnie among men of such various habits "">ormity 2(,2f). It has been stated to this Connnittee, that the general disposition of the inhabitants is friendly to the lir.t.sh Government ; =s that your opinion .^-I think •^fi3<>. It also appears by returns, that there are i,3.,4 rank and file at Colombo • are there extcnsne military duties to be performed it the garSn Coh°„l.o: - there. ■' ^^ "'" '" '^ """ ''^''''''"'' *'"-' ^''"'^' "'' '^''^ ^"''^'^ ='* p'^^ent 2631. Can you state how many men are on duty there daily ■ does not go that. ^ ' ■2h;y2. Have you any memoranda with vou ?— Xo 2(.33. What is the nature of the duiies of the troops at Colombo -—Their duties are very various. A great number of guards are re mircl for the nrotec ion of the Harrison, and (or the .•issi.t.-.n,.,. ,.f .Iw. T;.,;! ' °' V"- I"."ttctinn -No, my memory of the islan... I.scorts are also daily re,,uired to a consi.lerable extent for the pro- tection o prisonei-s working at har.l labour, and to the.se may be added men required for public orderlies and regimental duties. ^ •2(.34.. Vou have stated that numerous guards are required for the j.rotection of he garrison ; protection agamst what .^^ Protection against frauds at 'the £ en s ores ; the works and gates of the fort require guards and sentrie::. The commissar' stores require guards, and there is a guar.l on the beach to prevent the t hui on of improper persons and articles from vessels, and otherwise 'to assist the customs 2(.3.;i. Are there i^„ men on duty daily, .lo you think -I think t'jmidend.lv =t\^r;ir ' '''-' "'^" ""^'"^"- '- • «■" "«' -rewhether^:::!:m:;;j 2b3(). Do you think there are joo?— Yes, I think so Jb^7- Asthereare i,3,,4meninthegarri.son, the number on duty daily does SfHl'S"""'' "^ '-' '''''" '-'—Vou luust take away^he p^p^ ■-'(i3«. Alter making every allowance for sick, and otherwise employed, do vou think the men are on duty more than once in .six nights, supposin.^ not i.rtlnn ..H. to be on duty .laily out of a garrison of .,304 n.eu r-'lhe lu.we t ^^p ^ H,i r I r'" ' ' *'"!V^''".''"^- '•-1""'^ """^' '-^-t than thev do in other cl m tes Ilk the European soldier ,s not on duly more than once in three or four , ight but the iiiitivc .soldier is frequently on oftener. "'fenis. LORD VISCOUNT E1JUIN(;T0N TOOK THE CHAIR. Jli !|). Vou do not c.mfine that observation to men .m duty all the .'4 hours, but taking duties ot cv.'ry tlescription into coiisidcnition -— Ves •->-4,.. Im.ludiiig fscorts of stores and pri.s.mers, superinten.lence of working prtics, and the other duties you have mentioned, the native troops are on du y oftener than once 111 four days H^ts. ""uuiy --••MI. iiut the liriti^h troops are not on duty so often as once in four days :~ J think 1101 olteuer than once in four nights. ^ ■2U42. .\re they on duty as often as once in six days ^— Ves. I should say they are generally on duty once in thive or four days. ' ^ -^(^4.;. nut they are not out of bed once hi live nights f-Vos, for the Hritish oop,s chierty give the night guards. Th.y do not'^lo the day duties, or any tho.se that involve a constant exposure to the sun. ^ -'••.44. Are vou of opii , that no ree expected to be diminished daily, as the authority of the British Government be- 'i' conjcs ON MIUTAllY ESTABLISHMENTS IN TJIE COLONIES. y,7 I think it orii out in conies more consolidated, and our institutions are l>etter understood? — In the course of time, when tlie people become a little more enli^'htciied, and understand our f^overnment better, the iiiHuenee of the ehiei's will decline; liiit it is still so considerable, that in fact we govern the country tlirouj;h the chiefs. JtitJS. In what part of the island is the power of the chiefs considered most formidable ?— In the (Jandian provinces. :.'titio. At what distance from Colombo ?— The more remote provinces are the most under the influence of the chiefs, but at the seat of government the influence of Government counteracts that of the chiefs. j()7(). If this large garrison is requisite to counteract the influence of the chiefs in the remote provinces, might it not be supposed that it would be necessary to have the largest force in the disatfected districts? — It is requisite in military opera- tions to have a large central force ready to move to any jioint at which they might be required. j()7i. Is not Colombo an inconvenient point at which to have your centraliza- tion ?— No ; you can get into the centre of the island in a small space of time, roads having been opened. 26j-2. How long would it take troops to inarch from Colombo to the remotest parts of the island ; to those districts the most likely to be disturbed ?— From Colombo to the districts where the influence of the chiefs is the greatest, you could get a body of men in six or eight days. 2()73. IJy the ordinary course of marching? — Yes. ■2(}y4. How long is it since the last attempt at insurrection took place ?— I do not bear that exactly in mind, but I think there was an attempt of that kind in i82() or 1827. 2()75. How many men were lost on the part of the britisli in .suppressing that insurrection '! — There was no action in the iield. 2<'7(). What was the return of killed and wounded in any of the previous attempts at insurrection? — The losses in the field were nothing. 2077. Does not the presence of a British force in Colombo, in your opinion, contribute to render those attempts at insurrection, of which you have been speak- ing, of trifling effect ?--Quite so. Without having such a disposable force, I think the attempts at insurrection would have gained head, and so have' become for- midable. 2(178. So that it is possible, if a small British force were ke|)t in the island, instead of a large force, the chiefs might be induced to rise in insurrection more fre(iueiitly, in proportion to their chance of .success ? — Exactly. 2ti7(). Then the chance of success being in i)roportion to the number of troops, you consider the number now there is, in a political point of view, necessary for the tranquillity of the island?— I think it would not be prudent to diminish the number under existing circumstances. ■JtiSo. Consequently, it is your decided opinion, that thetraiujuillity of the island depending on our having such a force as we now possess, you could not, with prudence, diminish that force? Yes, that is my opinion. •jtiSi. What is the greatest force the insurgent chiefs brought into the field at any period subsequent to the capture of the King of Candy ?— It is impo.ssible to say, for the greater part of the country might be considered in rebellion, though they had no perniaiient organized force. 2tiS2. Have the Ilritlsh troops suffered any loss by casualties, or in the field, in action with the Caiidian chiefs since the rebellion of 1S17 ?— 1 do not think they have. 2t!8.3. Can you give us any probable statement of the largest amount of force employed on tlio.se occasimis .since iSi7?--Xo, lean only 'say, the moment the attempts took place, which they did in remote parts of riie country, small detach- ments moved to the various disturbed points, but what tiie extent was 1 cannot state. 2(184. The British force in Ceylon is between 1,700 and 1,800?— If the regi- ments are comph te to their full establishment, it is more. 2(i8;,. The really ett'ective force in Ceylon is between 1,700 and 1,800? -Yes. 2t)8(). With the reduction you must be awnre of in our army of .six men per company, which is jti men per regiment, that in four British regiments would make a reduction of 144 men ?- Ye.s, in the service companies of those regiments. 2(187. Would the further reduction you .stated, and "liicli we must know to be the case from casualties, which must fre<]ucntly occur, what number would you ^'•-j' X 3 compute Capt. Oiiiioi/ne> 4 July 1S34. Capt. dncui/ne 4 July iS:u. ' i.-iS MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE compute them at per regiment ?— Taking the island rounil, I should think hetween 2(1 and 30 rank an4. It also appear.s. by the same Return.s, that the force in 1S22 was 4,380, being 2,(107 "Hue than the present estaiilishment, and in the year 1823, " fnrther reduction was made ; do you think those reductions which have been already carried into eflect, are coiuniciisurate with the improved spirit and the increased chances of tran(|iiillity which prevail in the island r— I believe these reductions have been carried as far as is jirudent. -•(!();,. Do you mean to say that, when a regiment has been only a short time in Ceylon, the diiiiiiiutimi of its t;ffectives is only to the amount of men lost by death • or, m other words, do all the sick of newly-arrived regiments die?— No ; I meant men who bccoiii- permanently non-eftcctive, and never come into service' again. 2(u)(i. Then 've are to understand, that in addition to those who die, the effec- tne force of the Hritisli troops is considerably diminished liy sickness ?— Ves ; a con- stant number of men must be sick. 2(i(i7. Who become nou-effictive thereby ?— Yes. 2(.|)S. Have you establislied or been able to establish in Cevlon anything in the shape of convalescent .stations? -There is a convalescent station now in the course of formation 111 theiiiouiitaiiis, but how it will answer I do not know. 2('h}.). Will you have tiie goodness, after looking at the Ueturn.s, to inform the Commiitee what, 111 your opinion, may be considered the proportion of non- eflectivcs to effective Mritish troops, upon an average, in the island of Ceylon." 1 should think, between one-sixth and one-seventh of the actual number in the country. 270(1. Are you acipiainted with the duties which have been performed by the ^^ as that in tlieir capiu '.y as civil engineers ?— Ves, in their various duties surviying roads, in.spectmg the topography of the country, making bridges, and iii establisiiing military communications. -73(i. All these duties have 10 be performed by the civil engineers "-—'Jhat I do not know. J737. Are not the communications in an i.sland like that of Ceylon, and acquiriiKf a knowledge of the topography of the country, /joi„i fulc military duties, which military oliiceis must ascertain, and must report upon, and fuinish recorded iiifor- niatioii to the military authorities, as being moM useful information in case of niilitaiy operations .- — I should think so. ■J7;;S. Consequently, although for othtr purpo.ses, the fiirmation of roads ami bi KJges might very properly in the execution lie coiillded to civil en'riiieers yet the topographical knowledge of the country which ought to be acquired for tlie con- struction of roads and bridges, is a iiece.ss;uy part of the information requireil in the Quartennuster-geiseril's dcj>artmvnt ?— Sureli 73<.l. In case ue were tg have only one officer in the Qiiarterma.ste lepartmeiii at Ceylon, wliat would becimie of the I r-general s usiness oi'tlie olHce, the details of conesjioiideiite and other matters oi that sort, if that oiie officer we're dctacheil into b ON MILITARY nSTAMLFSIIMF.NTS IN THE COLONIES. ,6, iK°;!i;i;rir.:;;;r ""•^^"^•-"^^""''^ "«^ ''^'^'^'^'■' »- --* »'-«^ -'740. The (luostioi. is, what must become of the details of the office if that one CZ 7r """ ''"-' """■'"'■ "" "" •""^••gency ?-The office must be JUCKLft ill). 2742. If there arc three officers in the Quartermaster-cenerurs department up tlie office ."— 1 he ollicu l)iisiness must cease of course i74.3- Would not tW Imbility to perform those detaciied duties be diminished in proportion as you have sufficient number ?- Of course "'■"■^'.'i.u in 2744. In the answer you have given do you apply yourself to tlie peculiar nature of he service, from the exposure to the climate and casualties and isks connected with the duties o the Quaitermaster.Kenerars department, without ra""il a analoi^y which would be applicable to officers of anolher description r-Certanilv my answer principally refers to the Quartcrmaster-general's department ni'f" r ^""^" ?'■'"« tl'C evidence you have given on the subject of the QuartermastcT-general's department, and looking to the efficiency as well as e economy of the public service, would you recommend any reduction h, the Quarter niaster-gencnil's department ?— Certainly not. v£uain.i 2 74(i. You therefore consider that the present state of tlie Quartermaster- generals department is necessary for the efficiency of the public service, and there- fore It IS also the most economical ?— Yes. ^2747. Vou have acted in the capacity of deputy assistant adjutant-general ? 2748. How long?-I was in that office almost the whole time I was in Ceylon, with the exception of a month or two. 2749. For how many years was that r—Fifteen years. 2750. Are the duties of tlie Adjutant-general's department very lieavy .-—No. not very heavy. j j ^> 27,51. Are they ecpially severe with those of tlio Quartermaster-general's depart- ment.-— No, they are not. ° ' T .?^',^" "o*y, "''^-n /"•'^ t'»-' i^tations of the troops changed upon an avenige?— 1 tiiiiik not oftener than once in two or three years. 275.3. Tliere is before us a i{etiirn of the amount of the pay and insular allow- ances in Ceylon ; how do yo,. account for the excess of pay and allowances to the ofhcers in Ceylon as compared with the pay and allowances to officers on the West India station :-I do not know what the pay and allowances to officers on the West India stations arc. 27,54. Are you able to inform us what is the proportion of the allowances in know "' "' '■"'"''"■"'• "'"' '•'"' ^'""^^•"'^''•■^ i" tl't' Last indies:— I do not accurately 27,'i.5- Can you inform us what are the expense^ of living in Ceylon, as compared with the expenses of living in India:- -The ixpeii.scs ofli^ingare cer- tainly somewhat greater m Ceylon than in India. Th. expense of lod-ing, of •servants and the general expenses of articles of common consumpiion, are somewhat higher than in India; that is, generally speaking, as far as I know. 27.-it.. W bat does an otlicer generally pay for his hulging.s i„ Ceylon :- -He must take a house, and he cannot get a house uiuier 1 /. iS .v. «i- j /. a month. 27,-,7. A subaltern officer: — Yes. 27'-,8. Do not more than one officer lodge in the same hou.se ?-Yes ; and then i.ey must have a larger house, which costs more. If two officers live together, their lodging m)ul(l probably cost .j/. a ,i,onth at Colombo ; that i.s, 1 /. 1,,.^ each 27.;,.). Can you state the ditVerence in the co.st of an officer's living in England and Cevlo,i.--Ao; 1 never was myself en.ploxed on military duties in England : and, tlicretore, I cannot say. "^ 27(i<. Do you consider the cost of living generally is dearer or cheaper at Ceylon than .11 Lngiuiwl .--W ith regar.l to the common ncccs.saries of life I .should think they were somewhat cheaper in Ceylon than in Eiiiiland. J7i;i. U iial IS butchers' meat .---.4 \ iL to ()"'' 163 MINUTES OF RVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMiMITTEE Capt. Gascoifne. 3764. Is it duty frccr— It is nearly duty free. '^7<>,5- Is >' '" consc(iuence of the climate it is deemed necessary to give the 4 July 1834. island allowances to regimental officers ?~I do not know. 276(5. Have the soldiers any dlowances beyond what they receive in other climates ? — No. 2767. The soldier has quarters r — Yes; and the officers have none. TheisdanJ allowance i" • j,' 1 t'' be given to him in lieu of quarters, rations, coals, candles, servants >tor n soldier a servant he is not allowed"), a horse, if he is entitled to a horsi , iid m.m hh-T money, for if lie goes from one station to anothci- on horso- back, lie is obliged 10 pay his own expenses, and every thing of that nature. 27(18. Are any otVicers except Held and staH'ollicers entitled to a horse? — No. 27()(). In a warm climate like Ceylon I suppose fuel is not an article of niucli importance ? — No, certainly not. 2770. Is forage expensive? — Forage is expensive. 2771. What is the keep of a horse '. — 1 should think the expense of keeping a horse, including the hor' keeper, the ittendince you are obliged to have, and providing him with a stable, his feed, and one thing and another, appears to mc would come to somewhere about 3 /. a month. 2772. What is the cost of a domestic servant in Ceylon ? — It depends upon the station. The pay of a native varies from 1 /. 105. to 12 s. a month. 277.3. Does that include his food" — No, he has no food; that includes the whole exjiense except a little dress. 2774. llow many servants would bo necessary for a subaltern officer? — Two on an average, a man and a boy, supposing he has a regimental mess to go to, and has no horse. A horse is almost an indispensable thing in Ceylon. 2775. Do the pay and allowances of a subaltern ollicer in Ceylon enable him to keep a horse ? — They miglit enable a lieutenant unmarried to keep a horse, by observing very strict economy at his mess ; they would not enable him to buy one j horses are very expensive. 277(). Are there any other articles of much expense which he has to provide ? — It depends upon the station of the otlicer. 2777. The officer has no rations ':■ — No. 2778, The soldier's ration costs about t> d. a day ---The soldier pays 5 d. a day. 2770. There is a dirtereiKe in that respect between the situation of ofliievs in Ceylon and those in other cojonies, who are allowed rations? — Yes. 2780. How much does the ration cost officers in the other colonies "-—Two jjcncc halfpenny a day. 2781. The Committee have before them a statement of the various detachments, and the various posts, which are now maintained in the island of Ceylon ; can you inform us what are the reasons why so many separate detachnunts, nianv of them consisting but of a very few men indeed, are found necessjiry for the public service in that colony?— The small detachments which are scattered through the Candian provinces are generally tixed at stations where there are otlicers performing civil iluties, and who require a military force to support them in the execution of those duties. 2782. In cases where, from the Ueturn before us, it may not a|)pear there arc civil duties performed by the superintendent on the station, is it neces.siiry to main- tain such post with reference to the lines of conimuniiation, or to any other causes ? — It is a ditlicult question to answer collectively ; but there may be a special reason for each distinct post. 2783. Having now before you a map of the island of Ceylon, upon which is marked each separate post, and the nuuilier of men that are stationed iit those posts, can you, from your local knowledge, make any ob.servations with respect to that allocation and distribution of force -—With regard to the (irst iH>iiit, which is Co- lombo, that is the head-(piarters of the goverimieiit. There are 1,31)4 rank and file, but no commandant there. 2784. The commandant having been reduci.'d, do yon consider the staH'officer necessary?-! consider a staff officer is necessary. iTS.v What duties has he to i^rform ?--lle has all the duties which would de- volve upon a brigade or fort-major : he has also charge of the barrack department, there being no barrack-master in any part of Ceylon : he has other duties, which I cannot immediately enuiiitrate. Tlie next place we come to northward is Cliilaw ; 1 lielievc there is no oiiicur tlieif, ;ind only 37 men; it ^s the station of a sub- tollector of revenue, who is a pnucqi.ii ollitcr of the government, 'llie next place is k ON MILITARY KSTAHLISIIMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 163 is Patlam, where there is a force of Ti; men with an olKccr, that oflicer havinjf cer- tain allowances iw superintendent of tlie salt nianufucture, and the force there is employed principally in the protection of the salt-pans. 2786. Then his duties are principally as superintendent of the salt manufacture? r-Yes, and the conunand of the troops, lie holds a military authority from Chilaw u|) to Arisso. J787. What duties has he to perform ?--He has the general command of the district ? 2788. When there are no troops there, has he any duties of a military nature ?-- There are always troops tliere ; lie is ohli^rd to iiis|)cct the troojjs at each station in his district, and m lintain them in discipline. 'Ihere is a small force of 27 men at Manaar, but no oflicer. It is also a considerable port for coasting; vessels, and the force is euiploycii to assist the civil authorities in maintainiu}; order, and the prevention of sniU}j;i,Minf,'; there is also a small fort to be taken care of. The next place is Jaffnapatani, where there was, in the time of the Dutch ^^'ovcrnment, a v^ry important fort, a work of great celebrity, but now going to ruin. The "arrison here consi.sts of men generally invalids, with the assistance of a small detadnnent of sepoys of the Ceylon regiment. 27SH. Docs that station rciiuire a lieutenant-colonel ?— No, it does not; an officer of less rank would be suilicient. There is not a lieutenant-colonel there HOW. •2700. Docs it rerpiire any oflicer at all for so small a detachment ?— I think it does rc(piire an otViccr, if llicrc me any men there at ;ill, from its remote distance from any other military station. 2791. Would not a sub.illern be suilicient to connnand that detjichment :-— A subaltern might. 27()-'. What is the next place?— Trincomalee, which is the great naval station of the East Indies. ■J70.}. At Trincomalee there ajjpears to be a commandant, Colonel Lindsay, and a stafl" officer in addition ? — ^'es. 2794. As a staff officer is found suilicient for the garrison at Colombo, consisting of l,,]04 men, would not a staff" officer be sufficient for the garrison at Trincomalee] which consists of only ,-5^6? -I think at Trincomalee a stiiH" oflicer is essential. 27;).1. Do you not think a staff officer would be sutKcient without a command- ant, there being only a staff otlicer at Coloud)o ?— '1 he rea.son of there being no connnandant at Colombo is, tliat the governor resides there and the commander-in- chief. 279^. At Trincomalee is there not an officer commanding a battalion ?— The commandant commands the battalion. a7()7. He receives .450/. fur that? — There is a fixed allowance. 2798. Could he not perform the duty of commandant without any extra allow- ance?— No, I do not think he could. It is a great naval station ; he must be put to great expense to suj)port his rank and dignity, and it is impossible he can do it for nothing;. 2799. Are there a great many ships coming there?— Yes, it is the naval station and depot of the East Indies. aSoo. Is it ncccs.sary to have a .staff' officer in addition to the commandant? — Yes, there must be a staff officer, for the staff' oilicei is bound to do the duties of brigade-major, and of fort-major, and of the commissariat, for tiiere is no (ommis- sariat officer, lie has also the duties of the engineers department, for there is no engineer there, and he is obliged to do the duties of the adjutant-general and quartermaster- ijeneral wlien they are retiuired of him. He is a com])lete factotum. aSoi. Is it not, in ))oint of fact, nureiy a battalion which is in garri.son there ? — There is mori' than a battalion ; there is a strong detachment of native troops. It is nee essary to keep up a considerable number, for it is liable to be reduced by exten.sive casualties. .Inst before 1 came home there were a.'jo men of the 78th regimint in garrison there, and in about a foitnight or three weeks ."jo of those were s«e|.t off by the cholera. jSu:.'. In a giuii^on, (oiisistliig of ',2(i nu'n, may not the regMuental (piarter- masier act as eoiiuui.ssary, and may tiuL the adjutant, i)e f uiiy elficicnt in his capacity and act as brigade and fort-major - -The adjutant has quite enough to do to per- form his duties, ami, I believi', the ijuartermaster too. I am sure the adjutant of a reginuui. wli.itever nun.bcr that rci;in)ent may con.sist of, in such a climate as Ccyliin, i • I'liie ciuMi".'!' on Itis InnuN. ' -'■. > ' jSo ;. Do Capl. (iaicnyiK. 4 July 1834. ly ! 164 MINUTES OF MVIDKNCi: BF.FOUE SELECT COMMITTEE t'npi. GatcofiHi: tiSo;). Do tlic (lutii's of fort-mujor ami of thv tiigiruti's dcpartiiR'nt, in point of fact, occupy unvtliin^ but u very intorisidcniblo portion of'tlit' staH' oHiccr's timer — 4 J"'> i^M- I belicvo they occupy a great portion of liis lime. That officer bus been recently employed in o|K:ning road^i in tlie viciuity of lua station. '2804. la nut that' .sulbcient proof tiuit liisi purely military duties would not occupy bis time? - No, be is always doiiij; some enj^ineer's work. ^805. If tbere are civil tn:;ineers appointed to take info tlieir charge everything connected ivitli the making of ro.ids, will not that leave a large portion of his time at bis own disposal •• — One of his principal occu])ati(ins is the care of the buifdingN of the fort. VVliere you have only two as.sistant en^iinetr.s, aiid both at C'olond)o, they can do very little at Trincoinalec. ■.>8i)(i. What i>i the distance from Colombo-— Two hundred miles. 2807. Wfuit is the next ])lace r Batticaloa. 2808. How many men ure there at that station? — ^Thirty-eight men. a captain there. 280;). Do you think it necessary to have a captain in charge of 38 nienr There in There must be an ollicer. It is the most renu)te station in the island, and the most ditli- cult to get at. 2810. What is the importance of that station ?- It is a collectorsliip. 281 1. Is tliere a civil collectur there l)esides the captain ? - V'es. 2812. Might not the otlicer counnanding the troops be employeil as civil collector? - I do not know ; the military olbcer is never employed as collector upon the coast. 281.5. Can 38 men occupy the whole time of the captain r — lie would not have nuicb to do certainly. 2S14. Would he not have ain|)le time to perform ilie duty of collector without receiving an additional allowance ? —No, not without an additional allowance, for the collector has to travel through the whole district. 2S1 /;, If he has no duties as commandant over the ;j8 men, might be not per- form the duties of collector as well- — He might perform the duties of collector with an additional ailo^vaiice. liatticaloa is a sort of place of banishment ; a man who goes there foregoi.'s all the enjoyments of society ; he cannot without dililculty get at any other station, nor can lie be got at; and you. would not impose civil duties on the military man without giving him an increased allowance. ■_>Sit). If he has no military duties to j)erform, why should not he perform civil duties? — I suppose the officer at Datticaloa, if he was called upon to perform civil duties, woidd have time on his hands to perform those duties. 2817. What is the next place? Hand)antottc : there is an officer and ;^7 men; the otlicer there is similarly situated to the ollieer at I'.itlam ; he is the salt agent, and receives an allow, nice for that. Tiie ne\t is langalle, which lies within the jurisdiction of the olficer ■.A ilamhantotte; tiiere are ju mi'n there; tliat is a sub- collcctorship. (ioing round the island we come to Matiira, where there are I j) men. ■j8i8. Is it necessary to have an oflicer tliere ? I do not know. 281 (J. What are the duties that ollieer has to pertorni - 1 do not recollect why an oflicer is |)laceil there, and tlierefore I cannot answer that (jiicstion. At Ciallc there is a garrison of 271 men. 2820. Is that a post of any importance • -Ves, it is a post of considerable im- portance ; there is a large fort tliere .'8j|. Is there a delaehment of iMiropcan or native troops at dalle - IJotli. 28JJ. Who is the (omnian.ling ollifer - .Miijor Darr.ih, of the U7tli regiment. 2S2.5, Is it neccvsiry, in addition to a field olliier coiiimaiiding, to have a field olHcer as comiiiimdant ? - \ es. 2824. Has he any duties to jierl'orm wliicli makes it necessary to give him 182/. lo.v. ?- Yes, it was found necessary in (onsetpieiiee of its position. Ships are coming in constantly from dillereiit parts of the world, and he is obliged to entertain those wlio arrive, 2^2'). Has he great calls upon In upon his hospitality. 2'"2ti. Now, vviii you apply yourself to Hov many men are there at Kandy? — one iJritisli regiment s hospitality - —'W's, ]]■: has very great calls tile posts in tiie iiiti'iior oi" tiie island. Scv( n hmidred and eigiit men ; tliere is 2827. W!io is the comnian 2S28. He receives .(-,('/. der"-— Colonel ( liUind of the 7Sth. per aiiiimn, as colonial statl'-j \ •-Ji), Ha ON MILITARY KSTAIILISMMRNTS IN THE COLON II'S. ifi^ 'j8.>(). lias he ninny culls upon his hospitality? — lie has. ■.^S.5it. I, tlie state of the ( amiian provinces such as is necessary to keep up that force ■ - I should think it was. iS.ji. Is it such an important position with respect to the military occupation of ll le iJia'iil i— 1?- luok at the nat I Ls, .; , m look at ttie nature ot the country you will see that. 2S;}2. What caus<4 such fre(|uent calls upon his hospitality r — People arc con- stantly r issinj,', s'r .(|,'ers from all parts of the world as well as persons hel()n(,'in}; to the iDi. lid, bolH military and civil, and there is no establishment in the plate where an of'y ^, !\ go to, and it is looked for that the commandant, from his rank and statiwii, .".■»)■ iiy in the Candiaii provinces. ■.'8,54. Will you apply yourself to the smaller .stations ?— In Taldenia there is a small detachment of 1/; men, but no oflicer. '1 he next town is Mattiiiatta, which is in a very ru},'j,'ed mountainous district. The oHiccr there performs the functiong of an a;j;ent of the Ljovernment. jS jf,. How many troops are there? — rwenty-three. _'S;5(i. Is it necessary to ;;ive him any salary for the performance of civil func- tions, in addition to his emoluments as commandant: — Yes; 1 do not think you could ji;et an ofKcer to perlorm civil duties upon the mere pay h'' would receive as commandant. 2S;37. Is not it obvious tliat if he can jicrform lioth duties, the duty of com- mandant must be very light indeed- — The duty S4j. Has he any duties to perform as comniaiulant- - Yes ; there is a con.sider- ;d>le garrison, 1 ',7 men, and he lias the command over the whole of an extensive district, a part of the country which in times of insurrections is most disturbed, re- (|iiiring an ollicer holding a siitlicieiit rank and independent authority to be able to act promptly in a moment ot eiuiigeiicy. JS44. How can he, consistently uitli these important duties, perforui the civil duties of agent in Ouvah H — Tliese duties, though tliey are important, may not tike up the whole of his time. It is important a military ollicer of rank should be there. jS I ',, \\ hy should he receive pay for both ?— That I do not know. JS4I). Do yon conceive il is important there should be a civil agent at that station " — Most undoubtedly, very important, as well as troops. JS47. If there were a civil agent apjiointcd distinct from the military command, would that be done at the .same rate at which the duties are now performed by the one person ? — No. ■JS4S. I'lit as that ofticer receives J7ti /. a year ni his civil capacity, besides his civil pay and emoluments, might not a reduction be made in those emoluments? — I do not InIiow wlietlicr you could get military ollicers to iierform those duties for less. JS41). Are you not aware, tlial m all tl'.e other colonies and dependencies of Great Hritain, ollicers are constantly calle■ V J " 1 am Cupt. (JHfUlfHt. 4 July 1H34. i6G MINUTES OF EVIDENCE HEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Cupt. GuicnifHt. 1 ain not conversant witli the subject, as I never was in the civil employment ; witli — respect to tiie military allowance, the otlicer tliere gets a fixed military allowance 4 July 1834. accorilin<; to his rank in the army. 285 1 . Why is an exception made in favour of the officers at Ceylon r— I do not know that it is an exception. 28;52. Why is the regular allowance to oilicers in command of detachments higher at Ceylon, in comparison with other colonics? — I believe that when the nllownnccs were fixed at Ceylon for otVicers under these circumstances, that which is called a command allowance was in fact only a portion of that which it was con- sidered he was entitled to receive as an ollicer doinj; civil duties ; thus when it yas calculated that an ollicer doing civil duties at Matturatta was entitled to receive, say I .^o /. a year, a portion of that salary was given to him under the head of Com- mand Allowances, and the rest under the head of Civil Allowances. 2S,'53. liut in places wliere there are no civil duties at all to perform, it api)cars they receive allowances as commandant ; why are ofiiceis merely being in com jnaiid of detachments in Ceylon to receive so much larger allowances than in any of the other colonies?— I have given the reasons in detail why I think allowances are given to officers who have no civil duties to perform, such as at Trincomalee, Calle, Datticaloa, llaiiilKiiUotte. 2854. Ik'fore the islam! of Ceylon was surrendered to llie Hritish Government, it having been in the possession oftlie East India Company, the allowance of theso military"oflicers was very considerable ; do you consider it may be from any analogy to the India service the present allowance may have been made ?— I consider it not unlikely. jS-i.v Have you gone through all the posts ? — The answer as to the other posts will be similar to those I have already given. sS-itt. When you were in the island what was the extra allowances made to officers in charge of working parties ?— Oilicers in charge of working parties receive 4,v. a day, I believe. aSr)?.' What is the contingent allowance per rifle to cajUains of com])anies of the Ceylon regiment ;•'— It is that which is specified in the King's warrant. 1 believe it is 1 x. 3 d. a month. 28 'jS. Was it 10 d. a month formerly ?-■ -It was less than it is now. 2a'3(). Is it the fact that the contingent allowance to Malay companies has been increased from 10^. per rifle per month to \ s. 34/. ? — It has been increased I know; but whether the ori^inal allowance was lor/., and the present 1 i. ^d. I cannot say without lookidg at the King's warrant. 28(10. How long is it since it was increased? — About iS months, or between that and two years ago. 1 rv ■ 2861. What is the reason assigned Wn- iiuivasing it? — The general othccr 111 command recommended it, as I presume lie ilioiiglit the (niginal allowance was not a sufficient remuneration to the captains of companies for keeping the rifles in the state of repair they ought to !)e. 28(12. It appears by the returns that the medical staff consists ofonedcputy- inspeclo.- general of the hospital, and 1;, assistants; are you of opinion so large an establishment is necessary? I consider the wluile of the medical staff in the island when I left it was absolutely necessary. 28()3. Is one of these ofhcers emi)loyed as finiily physician to tlie uovcrnm "r — There is one who receivcN an allowance for that, but it dues not inlerleie with his other duties further than that he moves with the governor instead of bein^ attached to a pariicuhir station. 28(14. Does be receive any allowance beycmd what appears on the Hetian ■ 1 suspect his allowance as phvsician to the izovernor is of a civil cliaraetcr, and do<'s not appear here. He does receive an allowance as physician to the i.'ovcrnor, ex- clusive of his military allowance. 28(1,-,. ^Vhich is p'aid out of the <'(iIonial revenue --Yes, it must be. 28(i(i. Is his time wholly occupied in attending on the governor's family -—No, he is merely reipiired to be in readiness to attend on the .jioveruor's family, lie performs aiiy other duties at the station. He attcmls to his hospital duties and has hiswaid assigned to iniii as well as any other medical oiViccr. ON MILITARY ESTAHLISIIMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 1G7 Mercurii, 9" 9 July i8,)4. To which coniinunication the Chairman returned an answer, of which the iol- lowing is au extract : To Mr. Secretary Duiidas. I • . . , ^ I'nst Iiuha House, 10 Feb. i8ni. I HAVE rereived t.ie honour of your letter of the 30th Dccen.l.er last, on the subject of Ceylon, wh.ch I have laid before the Court of Directors, wlio concur in your su Jestion that the island should contuiue on the footing of a Koyul Government until peace shall be included, when that or such other arrangements of a permanent nature may be settled as shall then appear best adapted to the existing circumsiunces. 2872. The Committee were desirous of obtaining, if they could, some estimate or account of tlie expenses of the maintenance of the governmcMt at Ceylon anil the colony generally, during the time it was in the hands of tlie East India Com- pany ; have you endeavoured to procure that information for the Committee'— I have done so, both by consulting those persons at the East India Mouse most likely to give niformation on the subject, as well as by the examination of paijcrs, some of which have been laid before Parliament; but I have found a great difficulty exist m ascertaining the expense of the military establishment at Ceylon whilst it remained under the F^ist India Coiiipany, for it was, to a certain dt-rree, a deiicn- dency of the Madras government, and the expenditure of the island diiiin.r that time IS so mix_ed up with the expenses of the capture, as to render it extix'inely dilticult, and almost impossible, to separate them. 2873. Can you inform the Committee whether there is any diflerence to bo found between the military allowance payable to the East India Company's troops 111 the island of Ceylon, and the military allowance pavalile to the East India Com- pany s troops 111 other parts of the Company's territories r— No, they were the same. 2874. Were they higher or lower than the present insular allowance ?— They were double the island allowances that were afterwards established. 287,5. Can you give the Committee any inforni.ition with resi)ect to the govern- ment establishment at Ceylon, and the native serv ints, and other attendants, who are attached to the governor-— There are three d-scriptions of persons whose ser- vices have been inquired into : the native headmen, who are mere titular oHiceis, and the lascaroons and peons, who are attendants iijion the governor as servants! I he governor made a strong- remonstrance on receiving instructimis to dismi.ss all the native headmen ; and I should wish to read to the Committee the letter which Sir Robert Uortoii wrote home at that time, as showing thegrouiul of his objections to the instructions sent out. J876. Were the native headmen you alliide to in the service of the governor l~ J hey were in attendance at the governors house. My Lord, The Kin-'s I1(,unc, Colombo, Nov. '.-i, iSji. I TAKE the i arlust opportunity of callm- vour l.onlslii[)'s alltntion to vour (bspalcli No. ;], o: tlie 2:j(l June iK;,|, in wliicl« I um direclcrl lurtliwith to .liscontniue the en'i.lov- ment of the native oltuers, and olh an.'i' upon the governor. Upon this subject I could form comprtent opinion until my arrival in the colonv 1 have .since made it my duty to asceilaui the precise nature and character of this nati'v' establisliment, of what persons it is compoHid, and what th.ir several duties are. Your I.onkhip will perceive, by leCereiicf to the enclosed document, lliat this eslablish- nunl consists of 4.! iiidividiials, of whom only one interpreter, an aratchy, a cancan, and 1'2 lascaroons, are eini)loyed in attendance upon llie governor ; with resptct to the others your !,ordship will perceive that they are all efii.icMlly emplo\ed in the pi.^,lic service' although the peculiar nature of their several diilK s (witli"the single exception of the inter- preter, whose services cannot be di-|)ensed \ulli) does not appear under the honorarv titles which lluy bear. ■' Your l.ordslop will fuul. that iIk (Xplanalion which I >eiid is liltle morr (Iimii a .opy oi part (jl the iilue iio.ik. Tli. h- .ire in>lan.i s m v.liich tin; sums now drawn app.^ar .lismo- p.irtioned to the duties to be nerforiiied, nii\p|..nalory statement ol the Co...mi,sioiKr of It. venue us to the claim', of mi, h p.irtK s iMi the (iovi rnmeni for past ,iivice>. In iliLsi: <::ises ( Min Hdi-fied yjur l.onlship will lud be dl^cp.■lsl■d, on sji^li! grounds, to curl III the allowances and honours gr.inled to old public strv.iiits, wliosi^s to have been highly .ippn cMied by my pr'(lvce->sor and the public jili. 1 they wcic moic iiiiuii dutelv cuipl'ived. ivici . .ip[:e,ii liii I 'I uhoui The Tl luy Tl.,- v,dual.s n, quesfon ; they are honorary distinctions, rarely "•"•""■*' ^'l' aiteniJed with any pecuniary allowance. '"'<=ij The governor, by conferring on a native the title of modliar of his f^nte .ind .rn-ird grmus to hnn th. highest and most valued distinction in his power ^ ^ ' U.cse distinctums are not different in analogy from some in our own country and suddIv Halt, but partially civi uod, c;in only be maintained by public opinion. 1 assure your Lordship that, notwithstanding the letter of your instructions I feel that fill!. '';'"■ ';"','''f"'' "'« >isk of disgusting the higher class of natives, by denrivin- them of t lies ,0 winch they attach the highest value ; anil by mulcting them of fheToderate aZw ances which have been granted as the reward of past and imoortant services I ~r expect that persons degraded iu their own eyes vvill remain, TtC now are enr. i„ pomt of loyalty and attachment to the Crown t'o any of His M jesty' Ju b^^cts ' ^ '" riei c m.v'- ','^Hr'' '" '" T!^'' ^^ '^'"'"''' ,'"'"' '""' "'' "" «"'-'-' "'-- «>- i -hen expe- rience n,.,y justify a complete .Iiaiige in the relations of Europeans with the native inha be mari.;:;:.;:°:£^ """ ''-'' '''"- ' •■^-""- '^ -y- ">- -^ i'-Jencj;;^o;;;;b;'not'^ Bamerl!l''!& '/l*^.M '■^"'">'' V"""' Lo^J^'-ip that .Major Colebrook, in his letter to Sir E. sumnaJilv' oZv? V "mi"" ^""' ';°^''^''ip. that your commands shall be instantly and sun m,,r,ly obeyed, should I receive them in confirmation of your former despatch I w™ d la ase only venture to hope that the measure may appear to emanate exclu ve y fVom :;:ust':^l::;i:::;cS::t:^:l;;:;;,:r'*^"^ "^ '-^^ -'■ ""^^^"- ^^"'^" ^'-^ '-«' s---- lisl!,,',"',?. '''-V'l*'''''''?'' ""'' ""' ""'y l"^'''""« *^''o are attached to the governor's estab- I , ,r 'l, "' ''""-'■' T '" ""y '^'-'""•'■^ connected with his private convenk-.tce ale me ; S;' 'ua^hed^'lo Jh '""""'" ' ll"" '"""'"' =" '"•'^^"^" ''^ — >t'oned, lu"^!^^ mnl. ^V ''"•"''"^/" "'e governor; they rem.iui m waiting day and ni-ht and are employed in carrying letters, and on similar duties, principally on the public er ic'e ho.H. occasionally they may be employed as messengers lor the .lelivery of p mate o ^s tl ev a company the governor whenever He goes out, interpret for hiin, ha'n over to I in, he uu e rous p.titioiis which ure presented to him, and make conmun ications w h "h n ay wi.h to make. It is not to be e.vpecte.l that the governor would retain then as Vch -e on his private revenue, and the economy would be ,00 trilling, as ba , c d tain uCe sliljhtest prejudice (in opinion) to English authority. " ° "• I he guvcrnor IS of course in constant orrespondence with the principal officers of (.0 ernuient, and it cannot be expected that his p'rivate .servants should e I e earners of ■ ,:''''xi.i:'''' .''''" ' ';'"'?i="''. "T^ •'■""""' "'•"''' '^^^ -i^co"strued by tlv luUi U la. o Although your l.ord.lnp's despatch referred exclusively to the native officer w'hu , e at .. lulaiif on the governor, you wili alrea.ly have been informed by the Com russfo rrs hat there are lascaroons as well us peons attached to certain public othces hm we as t. pro ine.al judicial ; w ether any reduction can be made ,n Iheir numbers Jve not had mo g,ve an opinion, but I cannot hesitate ••, express, in the strongest terms?,', I ones th.it these a,ljui,cts to public situations here may not be done awuv with, on a , in^i., h .f ;h:::r;;;:^;.t:na;^;^r^' "'""■ '"^^ "^^'^ ^'"^^'"'■•'- "-''- - i-^^- "'■°' J'''''^''^- A more evpensive ami less useful establishment is the troop of Ceylon light dra-^oons lacing out of new the policy of in some degree .listmgmshing -.he uunern, C t'he < Ih.'er in coinmnnd of jhe tro<,ps i,y the attendance of a mount.'l ordc^lv, a i o „eat convenience to the public service that they shouM sometimes have ,t in hei nowe lo orward co.,.,mnications n.ore r.ipully than can be effected by a foot messe.ll'er yH J . i sliip win ,,,,.„ there are no other dragoons on the island; I have therefore v >:■ i-.p naninious cone...: nee of the council, retained a small number of these d a' Z^, bu 7 ha e educed the esl^ablishnient within the narrowest limits (as state.l :, the a^.i ,n,' an m ' N.hedule).^by which a saving of upwards of ,,700/. per annum will be immeSj: I iiave the honour to be, my Lord, ., ,,, , „ Your Lordship's most oidi.-nt, humble servant, Ine Kight Hon. Lord \ i.scount Goderieh. y; ]y ii[jfton Thi> fnclosiirt's to this (Icsputcli air, I. A list of the iiativf lieadim-ii attachi-d to tiie •'ovoriior's oate ■ taaaniiM! a!ta<'lii-;'s House, Colombo, January 2, 1^3;). Yolu Lordsiiip will recojioct that in your despatcli, No. ,-,,■,, of tliu Mtii of June, iu rt'Coreiico to intilical assistance 011 the part of the luililary audicid officers, you dirifted ine to invite the coiisiileriition uf the uienihers of the civil service as to the best means of providing tor any ilelicieiicy nf niedicid aid, by inducini^ private practitioners to eslablish tlnniselves wi liie island. Allow nie to renirnd your Lordship, that it is at o»i-slations where civil servants are placed that the iireatest want is tell ot medical aid, and that tlu re would be no possible nieiins id' introduoiiiij; private practice, unless the civd servant was tn take upon liinisell' the exclusive ex|(eiise ot inaintainiiiif tlie civil practitioner. At siicii slatioiis aietlical assistance IS not required exclusively for the convenience o| civil ollicer> ; at every civil stuticni inmps are also quarlen-d, «lio are of course eipially without ii'edic.d attendiiiK e, exceptiiif; lii;il of iialivi- medical sul,-assisl,iiits, whose knowled:;!,' i.i\' medicine is of the most modi rate desi riptioii. The suri^eon of a merciianl ship tiadin^ with Colombo appeared di>posed, a lew montlis a;io, to settle as a piivatc |)i:'Ct'tiniier in this town; but altlioui;li lie received every eneounii;einent from me on makiim in(|uiry as to his cli.iiice of success, he retiuiudto Lntjhind wiiliout executing his |)iirpose. \\ itli res|)ict lo the llb^ervatlclll contained in the leiier ot (lie military secretary, laii(l, SO IS to allow llir po>viliility, wliieli at pH ->' III II' . > iiiii • xe-i. 'i> seii'liii^ medical ollici-i-i to dillerent parts td tin- i>lain! where 1 xlicine aiori.ility prevails, i can only repeat my hope, that my recominentiaiion will ultimately tie rceefvcd with favuBT, I have ilie honour to In lllV Lord, ^QUr Lutdshlirs laosl olndielU limnble Servant, li. n. Ilurloii. j88(). Can Lord ON MILlTAlir liSTADLISHMENTS IK ■llIK COLONIES. ,7, tlio >li»|alcli Iron, Sir li. W. H,„l„„ X r h™ '""i 'I'c ™. stated in »8S,',, i,i.l „,., tlint occur OT.,°c\ti.c;,7,r '"i.'", "'- ' """"i"™. 10 pr:uti»c „, ,1 attend tl,.. civil JZ,'-\„, "'^ '"'l''''"' *'« ^'^ ""owd city of „l,t,i„i„„ „,|,„ „ .'liL , Cc ti,arti, , 7 "" 1" '""' ", ""■ '™- ''-^^'^'^y'l^rsi;r""'^^'^'^"T^^^^ ii.cL™ r,„'rii,iTr irff'''°i'r* '"'t"' '■"■'"'■ i" "'™'i»»» «" « ;,,f -;;- -^iZ,?-;!;iz,r,'tLri;;;^crr '"- -'"»^ ^c«S;.^fc;;i£c:;;:';l^^",7:;r-;^-ir?„"^^ . . 'fr:rs- ^is- -r,;s i-SLr :n= rcToir.'.';il''.j'7 '"'"'i" ''" ^'""'."''"^■^' '■'•'"•' t'H' .I.,n.n,o„t.s bcCoie vou, or from on';";: ";'^ ''-';'"■'""!-;■"" between ,l,e Colonial-udice ami Uc' u" < 1 1 u 11 . tiM, 01 the MTo.ul poi.it, the pay should Mot he restored to its former r-i' ■ • ^'ZTz^i'nrT'V''^^^^^^ tinned, c:;,ar^Xi^ae I, ; I '^ ■ ' '" "' "!''^'"'" '" ''' •"■''■^^"' '■'"•"' i ^""""i.^ other reason. yon;;;:';.,;';:;;;;"'^ '' ''"'"''''" ""^^='' •"■"'"•'^■'>' ^-^ - ""• -ii^^n.:orhoysT:; ■-'>:;|S. Can you -ivi the ( 'onHnittee any intonnation with rcsneet to the t'ev^.m -)J.n.oers departnu.,,, .v,th respeet to wineh we have heard on, ,. th^^^^ ced mj evonntimon ol the w Unesses } -The puhlie w.nks were ion.erlv ■ ' .! . ^, a \^iy ohjeconahie manner at Ceyh.n. sinee the elnn-e of all the eUd works an iHMl.m^^swas ,„ thehan.lsoftiie olHeer eonnnandin^the roy le . i h^ o f' Ic d|J.,y,u.rU.rma.er.,e,K.ral,orof,heeon^ d.s .,,,,. and the,, was a g,eat want .1 eli,e,ent eontrol over the evpenditnre of ,i,e piiliMe 9 July 18,14. MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Ilk K. ;c. Han, Esq. public stores. In order to remeily this defective state of tlilnj^s, Colonel Colebrookc '• — reconinieiidod the appoiutineut of a scientific person of experience to bo civil engineer July 1S34. jind surveyor-general, who should have the sole charge and management of the colonial works and buildings throughout the island ; and that to assist him in the discharge of these duties, he should have the services of a competent assistant in each of tliu live districts into which the island has been divided. All works of any magnitude are to be executed by contract whenever practicable ; the corjis of pioneers to be considerably reduced, and those retained, to be placed with the bullock and elephant establishments, under the order* of the civil engineer and surveyor-general. All colonial or civil stores were at the same time to be transferred to the charge of this officer, who should be responsible for their due application. In conformity with this recommendation, an officer, who had been long in the East India Company's service, has been sent out as civil engineer, and one assistant ; the number of these subordinate oificers to be increased as circumstances may render expedient. The abolition of compulsory labour and the reduction of the artificers has made a great change in the means at the disposal of the local government; and uutd a fidl report of the whole state of the public «orks shall have been received and consi- dered by the Secretary of State, their prosecution must be greatly suspended. 2891). Do you not conceive that the appointment of a civil engineer nnisttend to a certain extent to relieve the (juartermasfer-general's department of some duties heretofore imposed upon that office : No doubt, very considerably. •21)00. Can you inform the Committee whether conununications have not been made, and the (piestion is not now^ uiuler the consideration of the Colonial Ofhce and the Horse (iuards, whether the (Quartermaster-general's and the Adjutant- general's staffs might not be reduced by the reduction of the two junior officers ! — I think that ((uestion would be decided by the result of a correspondence which has taken place between the Colonial Department and the Horse Cuards, as to the reduction of one of the regiments in that ijuarter. ■j()oi. Can you state wiiat the communications with respect to the reduction of one Hritisli regiment have been, and how the matter now stands: — When Sir U. W. llorton first took charge of his present gorennnent, one of the first points for his consideration was the financial state of the island ; and it seemed to him, upon cousuitation with his council, to be probable tliat, with a view to ecoiuuny, he might be able to dispensu with the services of one Ihitish regiment ; and ujjon this subject a comnnniication v.as iunnediately made to the Horse (iuards by the Secre- tary of State, 'iiie general connnaiuling in chief douljtcd extremely the ])ropriety of the measure, because Sir .lohn Wilson's recounuendation ami his concinrence with the governor appeared at that time to have been founded u|)on the. notion that a seiieme recounueiided by iiim would be adopted for rendering Ceylon a depi'it for the Indian army, anil also a convalescent station for the sick belonging to it. Sir ,lohn \\ ilson was tlierefore directed to reconsider the (jnestion, with refer- ence to the objection made by the Horse (iuards to his reeonnneudation as to the ilepi'it and convaiesciuf station ; but he at tlu" same time ri'ceived orders to take steps tor sending; one regiment to India, should he, on being lieiter advised, tiiink that part of the force could be conveniently dispensed witii. The result of that instruction is not yet known in this country j(i(>J. Are the Committee to understand distinctly that an application w.is made, in tile first instaiue, by the V.ist hulia Company lor the lenmval of Ceylon from their jurisdiction ;' I taniH)t tiace any such i|)|)lication. -fio"]. .Are you aware ulutlier or not tiu' colony paid its own expenses when jjnder the Dutch (ioverinnent H — 1 caiuiot answer that (piestion ; I shoidd rather imagine ivd. •jpo-j. Have you any document showing the relative state of the health of the troops in the islands of Ceylon, Ionian Islands, .Mauritius and .lamaica: — I have. i'/'/u'/o/liiuiii!^ (tocinmitt ua.s then huiuUd in.] !■;;. ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 173 p F u 1 n ti:YI.ON. IONIAN ISLANDS. MAi.lU Ill's. .1 A M A I C A. 'J'roi)|)s, Sick, Troopi. Sick. Troops. Sick. Troopi. .Sick. June i8yi Janimry 1 83'i - .liinc 183'i January 1833 . - - August 1833 - 3.979 3.94" 3.827 3.''»9 3.933 ISO 98 ii8 "7 3,133 3.<>77 2.983 3,023 Hi :<> «9 85 I'iO 1 .7;'i" 1.754 1.714 1.794 2,243 137 iGij 147 l''.") 182 2.'i.W 2.797 2.957 (4)3.397 !(3 118 114 228 325 /i. jy. Ilai; Esc]. U July 1S;J4. (A) July 1833. Mr. Ilcniy TuJ/'ncll, called in ; and E.xiiniincd. acio;,. HAVE you resided in the island of Ceylon ?— Yes. 290G. In what situation .=— As I'rivate Secietary to the CJovernor. 2907. How many years -—About two years. ■-'9fiS. How ionj,' have yon left the island ?— I left it in December last. 2()0(). Are you aware that in Ceylon there are several military oflicer.s coni- niandinjr detachments who are in the diseharf,'e of civil duties, and if so, what are the civil duties?— Yes; they are employed both in the collection of revenue and the administration of justice. 2()i(). iiesides their military duties? — Yes. 291 1. Do you think it is advi.sal)le so to employ military oflicers ; and if you do, be so f-ood as to state your reasons why?— I think so, and for two reasons; (irst for the sake ot economy, and, secondly, because the duties are almost certain to be well executed, as, there bein;,' a fjreat body of -gentlemen from whom the selection can be made, they are hardly, if ever, appointed unless they have shown themselves (pialilied to undertake the ollice. J()i-'. \()ii are aw.ue that civilian.s, on bein;,' removed from olhce, and retirinj^ 1,'enerally. claim a retiiin^r |)ensimi r— They did ; but they do not now. ■-'01.;. Has it been altered- Yes. •ii|i.(. In the case of the renunal of an oflicer, and his iiein;; directed to join his rcfriment, can he have any claim to a retiriii'^- pension for his civil duties -—Cer- tainly not. •-•9 1.-;. That is an advantage "r--(!ertainly. ■J9U1. In the event of this man being called on to perform military duties, how are the civil duties which he now performs to be perfornu'd }- There must be civil oflicers a|)piiiuted to the .station. -'(I17. 'iheii, in the event ol' being calL'd 111)011 to perHu-in military "'■ -'"y-'ui's i" thecivii service in the Island of Ceylon ; his health broken down, he would, under the regulations of last year return to Knoland without any pension whatever -—Certainly, unless some regulation lias been issued since mv departure fruin the island. 2<)2(.. Are you aware whether that is the case with the civil servants of the I'.ast India Loinpany .--^ I believe that is not the ca.se. 2()J7. 'I hen the civil servants of the East India Company, having consumed the best years of their hie, and ruined their health in the .service of the East India l.ompany, would be entitled to a retiring pension r— Certainly. -^()JS. Voii stated, that althoiigh there would be no saving to the public by the employment of military ofhcers in preference to the civil servants, a.s re.'ards the retirmg peiiMmi, inasmuch as there is no retiring pen.sion to civil servants yet there is a saving in the aiiioimt of allowance required for civil persons employed in these .stations instead of military oHicers:—Ves. •-!!)-';(. Can you state what the amount of that .saving w) /. a year .-- \es, about 4()(. /. a year. •J(),]6. Duyou eonciive. knowing what the description of military officers em- ployed ..n that station IS, ami al.so bearing in mind the low salary givtm to tlie civil .seiyautH ,,, an island like that of Ceylon, do you conceive the' emiih.vin- of the military ofheer for the duty he has to pertorm, and coiisideriier als,. t'he proteclioi) whuh the public has li.nii the eommi.ssion of the " IS iietter served by a mililarv than a eivd olHcer ? I h -,, -. a year ac duties, which I believe he will. -'!),)-'. Does that civilian perform any duty — No. superior le ollicer, that the public ,.,. ■ . ,. - , , . . , - ■ - hive not had an oppoitiuiity of vs tne.ssmg, for any len-th of time, the result of a station being transferred fro,,, a military to a civil authority, m. as to allow me to (i,nn a ju.lmiient iipmi this point but in my opinion, there wouhl be a -real prob.ibilitv of the ,|uiies beiii- better perhumed by a military ollicer than a civilian. 11 ' iiHiit a-eiit is not siiliicieiit fur '•xperieiice in ollices of that nature ; but select him as the best ipialifietl of the whol description, where the duties, altl laii. any except lie pay of an a.ssi.stant (lovern- yoiiiig civilians, who have had no when a military olheer is appointed, you whole regiment. In out-stations of t'liis although constant and heavy in their amount, are not ill general of v.iy great !inp„naiiee, good .sound seii.sc aii.l u-ular habits of busi- ness are by far the best (pialilicatious. ^u.J". Can you tell the Committee how it was a military ofKcer was tut'j(l ,„ the place of Captain J'earson.' -Because a great reduction',. lot substi- tlie civil appciutiueiils ON MILITARY ESTABMSIIMENTS IN THE COLONIES. 1; • I'j appointments in tlie country Inul t;.kcn place, and a number of civilians conse- (|uently hecanie unemployed. 2(),iS Were those civilians not employed leccivinf,' any pay from Government? — Yes, 1 believe tliey received .joo I, a year. 2();j(). Have you been much in diU'erent parts of the island ?— Yes, I have. 2()4i.. Are you able to state whether it is necessary to keep up all those com- mandantslups, or whether there are any of them u Inch can be dispensed with with- out injury to the public service ':-\ do not think it is a cpiesfion of much importance; the detachments of these ditferent stations are {renerally very small in number, and might be useful, in case of a local riot or disturbance, there being no police. 21)41. That applies to the military duties of commandants -—Certainly. -'94-'. Do you think the civil «luties of commandants could be dispensed with at any of those places.-— I should think not. 2943. It appears by the return there are iH commandant.ships ; out of that i» there are not more than nine that have any civil duties attached to them • is it necessary to keep up the whole number of 18? -I could not say exactly whether they could be reduced with benefit to the |)ublic service or not. -'1)4 4. Are you of opinion, where there is only a .small garrison, consistin.' only ot a few so diers, it is necessary to have a military commandant, unless tliere are also civil duties attached to the station? -Yes; unless it is iu the vicinity of another military post, from which it might be occasionally inspected. 2!)4,-,. At Jaffna there is a lieutenant-colonel, who is 'a cmiimandant, and there are only 27 men at .Jaffna, and no civil duties attached to that station; is it neces- sary to keep up a lieutenant-colonel as commandant with j; men? -Certainly not. 2()4t). .Might not a Serjeant, or at utmost, a subaltern, do all the duties of that station .J— I do not like to give an opinion upon a matter of purely military detail. -pM_ Ho you know whether there are civil duties to perforin :-'— There are no civil duties, I believe, in the eoinmandantship of .latfna. 2()4''<- At Hatticoliia there are 3H men, commanded by a caiUain ; has ho any civil duticsMo perlhrni "r— I believe not ; there is a civil agent there. 294(). Exclusive of the commandant? fiXclusive of the commandant. -•<),-,<; I)o you think the civil and military duties might be united in one person at IJatticollia.-- -1 never was there, but I >honld think .so. 2y,)U At Ciaile there are 271 men, commanded by a major; are there any civil servants eniployed there?— ^es, there are three, I think. ' - 29-,2. Are you not of opinion, that a major comuumding 271 men is also com- petent to discharge the civil duties ol that station ?— .No; the civil duties at (iaile are very heavy indeed ; it is a very large place, and, as it were, the head-iiuarter.s ot ttie Southern I'rovinces. 21),-,.]. J here is also a stalf cllker under this commandant? There is. 29-,4- Are you of opinion that a commaiKlant, staff ollicer, and three civilians are reqiiiied for the duties of th.it st.itioii - - I should think they were. 29.-,.-,. .\t llanif)oulotte tliere appears to be a lieutenant-commandant and only 37 men ; is tliere any civil agent at I lamhoiilotte '. — ^'cs. 29.-,li. Might not the olhcer tliere, the commandant, perforin the civil duties as well as the niilitary'-There was a change at llambouloite just when I came away; I think a civilian was then sent to that .station, but 1 do not think he has ( haige of the salt-pans. -''i:,7- l>o ymi not think .1 military man, with J7 soldiers under his orders is competent to take charge of this salt manufactory ?~ Certainly. 2|i,-,,S. .\t Matiira there are K) men, under the comm.md of a lieutenant, who is also a commandant ; are there any civil agents tliere? — \es. -•9.V1. Might not that military oflicer, having so small a detachmant under his orders take charge al.so of the civil duties-— The civil duties at Matura are heavy; Init it the military duties are not severe, there is no reason wliv an ollieer sluuild not be competent to undertake the duties of the station. 29(10. A.ssuming the civil duties to he eipial to employ a civilian, is it necessary to have a lieuteii.iiit to have charge of 19 meii"--l think not. 29(11. .\t Kaiidy there is a cnloiiel-coiiimandant and staff olVieer, and loHmeu in garn.s(m ; nhat civilians are employed there- -In Kandv there aiv three ni-r„iir oiviiiiiiis tnipioyed. 2. )()■.•. Is ii yi-ur opinion that, in aildition to a eonimaiulaut and statf ollicer, it IS nece.s.stry to have three .u- four civilians to perfoini the civil duties- Ves. 29I'.;. Xud that no reduction could be made there" -I should think not. / 4 I should .Mr. //. TufneU. . At Hadula there is a niajor-commnnuant and l.i; men at thut post ; are there any civil agents at Hadulu ■ — No. 20(17. At Hutlani there are (17 men aiul a captain, who is commatidant, who is also supcriuteudent of the salt manufactory; are there any civilians at Putlumr— I think there is a sittinj^ magistrate also there. •Ji)('>.S. Do you think the officer in command could perform the duties of super- intendent of the salt manufactory and sitting nuigistrate without any assistance ?— I should think, if well selected, he might. -'9ti(). At ]{atna|)oora there is a lieutenant, with .17 men under his command ; are there any civil agents at Katnapoorar — There are. 2()7(). How many.- — There is an assistant Government agent and district judge. •J()7i. Might not a military man perform tho.se functions in addition to his military duties? — I never was at Hatnapoora, but I should think it probable he might. ■J()7J. At Kornegalle there are .-ji men and a captain commandant of the station, and also a judicial agent at Sevenkorles, and also a staff ollicer under his counnand ; are there any civil agents at that .station ?—Ves, there is one civilian at that station. 2973. In what capacity ? — I think he is called a (Jovernment agent. •Ji)74. Do you not think the military ollicer might perform the civil duties of that station: — .No. 2;)7.')- Might not the staff oflicer be reduced without detriment to the service ? — Certainly. 297(5. At Tort .M'Dowell there arc 29 men and a captain, who is commandant of the station, and also a Government agent at Matelle ; are there any civilians at that .station .' — No. L'1177. Do you consider he is necessary ?— Certainly. I heard from Ceylon lately that this officer has degded upon an average ;5,(ici() cases every year. 297S. At Kuanweile there are J7 men, and there is a captain, who is command- ant of the station, and also a (iovernment agent; are there ar civilians at Kuanweile: — I do not think there are. 2979. Do you think that ollicer is necessary at Kuanweile :— A (iovernment agent is certainly necessary at Kuanweile. 2980. .\t Madawalateinie there is a caj)t:iin, who is commandant, with iG men ; arc there any civil agents there? -No. 29.S1. Do you think that officer is necessary for that post: — Certainly. 29SJ. At Kotmalle tlii're appears to be a captain-connnandant, without any civil duties to perform ; is there any civil agent there? — No. 29S;j. Do you think that othcer is necessary r— I think it would be inexpedient to remove him. 2()84- Is it necessary to have an othcer of such a rank in the charge of this post as captain /--Certainly not of the rank of a captain. ^nN:,. Do you think a .sergeant would be .Milficient, inasmuch as it is only a de- tachment from Hadula ?— 1 am not competent to answer that (juestion. 2(|,S(i. .At .\lii)oot there are but two soldiers and a captain-commandant of the any civil servants station ; there is also a judicial agent at Lower Ouva; are there there? — No 29S7. Do you think a person is required for the discharge of the civil duties in Lower Ouva ?--Certaiidv. is a lieutenant-commandant ; are there any •-'988. .\t Fort Maciionald there civil agent.s at that .station ? No. ■JuSn. lias ih.iit otiicer any duties to pcrr«ni! ti> nnike it necessary tliai appoint- ment should continue:—! think it would be inexpedient to remove that po.st, as it forms a conniumication between Neuveraellia, the great station in the interior, and the district of Ouva. a 2990. Arc ON MILITARY KSTADUSIIMENTS IN THE COLONIES. '77 2990. Are you competent to say whether it is necessary that an officer shoul.l M,. //, r„„:.„ have the connnund of that .station ?-I should think it i." ,„vlci .1,1, oificer. ' •J991. How many men are there? — I think .mi 2902. At Maturatte there are.-.} men and a comnmndani ; the captain is ti,c ommandant and also the judge in Ilewahette. .Me there an; civil s . va u n p.ye. A K AVVV.\\)\\. 'A\'^/\<\ IMAGE EVAUATION TEST TARGET (MT-S) 1.0 I.I 1.25 1^ ■ 10 92.8 1.8 U III 1.6 6" Photographic Sciences Corporation a i; '^ 33 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, N.Y. 14S80 (716) 872-4503 4rj ^ ^ «p [ 178 ] APPENDIX. I. — Jflediterrancan. Pages 2 -to '9- No. 1. 3. 3. 4- 5' 6. 7. 8. 9- 10. II. Pog«. GIBRALTAR 3 Ditto ...........3 Ditto 7 Ditto 8 MALTA 8 Ditto 9 IONIAN ISLANDS la Ditto 13 Ditto 18 Ditto 18 Ditto 19 II. jlfrica. Pages 19 - to - 34. 13. WEST COAST OK AFRICA I9 13. Ditto 20 14. Ditto -...- jj 15. Ditto .-... 24 16. Ditto ■'5 17. Ditto ...-.35 18. CAPE OF GOOU HOPE 87 19. Ditto -.28 20. Ditto -- 33 III. — North America, rages 35 to 21. CANADA 35 22. Ditto ...........36 23. NOVA SCOTIA, kc. • • - 47 24. NE\VFOUNDl.A>:i) 48 25. NOVA SCOTIA, NEWFOUNDLAND, &C 49 26. UEU.MUDA 56 27. Ditto .37 IV. — Eastern Possessions. I'ages go - to - 84. 28. CEYLON 60 29. Ditto Cl 30. Ditto (i(i 31. Ditto G8 3a. Ditto 72 33. Ditto 73 34. Ditto 74 35. NEW SOL'TIl WALES AND VAN DIEMEN'S LAND • - - 79 3(J. Ditto 80 37- 38. 39. 40, 41. 42 ■ 43- 44. 45' V. — West Indies, i'ages 85 to JAMAICA .... IIONDIUAS . - . . JAALMCA AND IIONDi:U\S WINDWARD AND LKEWAHD ISLANDS Ditto - . . . - UAHA.MAS .... Ditto MAIRITUS .... Ditto - 85 - 8,-, . 8G - 90 • 9« ■ 104 - 105 - 107 - 108 -Miscellaheous. Pages m - to - 113. 46. IKLIliirr OI SALT I'llOVISIONS ^7. COLONIAL MILITAUV EXPLNDniUi; - Ill - \x% [ >7<) ] LIST OF APPENDIX. 1.— •Mediterranean . "»• GIBRALTAU : ''~"n^?,f "'^^,J""'l!"' >"r-,'^''r"',""°,?.°?'5''« KS'-'^'i^'-' '■■°^"-. Ofli'^e", Non-commissioned Officers and Uank and Flic, of the British Army, including Colonial Corps, in each Year smco 1815; including Artillery and Knpineers - . . '^ «.au. icar a—Return of all I'ay, Allowances, Emoluments and Salaries issued to Officers of the "Military A3r;S'3"\Malh78~" "■-"• *""' "'■ ''" "''"""? "".""""!■"' ':' '"^J-^"^' 3 — Emoluments of Governor and Lieutcnunt-governor of Gibraltar - - " ' nt 4.-A neturn of all Officers receiving Permanent Pay at Gibraltar, connected with the Victualling Deparunent ot the Navy, thowmg the Amount of such Pay and other Allowances - p. 8 MALTA : ^■~^n^n.T °'''|";,^'7''ers and Distribution of the IlfFective lorce, Officers, Non-commissioned .^Ic.r8,°"i ?"r''"/'M' "f "'f »^i'«h Army, including Colonial Corps, in each Year since 1815: including Artillery and Engineers .... „ g 6._Ueturn of all Pay, Allowances, Emoluments and Salaries issued to Officers of the Military, S^r^ntd'S^March'sr"'"' ''"."' ""-' "''''"■ "'."""'? ''?"'"'.^"'' 'V '''l'^^'^''- IONIAN ISLANDS: '■~MZ.rf In". H'rJ'"', PM D'\'."bution of the Kffective Force, Officers, Non-commissioned l.n?«." • 1 i'^"''/'m' "' 'he British Army, including Colonial Corps, in each Year since 1815 ; including Artdlcry and Enginceit) - . . . . . „ ,3 ■Return of all Pay Allowances, Emoluments and Salaries issued to Officer, of the Mi itarv Mo^ihrjiS '™'.^*;:i,?:8:r'"'■-' "f- "" "''r "^•*"'"- ; '^°"»""-'' »•- ^^^ ■•-'- ■Distribution of tiieTnmps in the Ionian Islands .... " " n 18 Seetionll Chan VII ofihe Constitutional Chart of the Ionian Islands - ." .' p ,8 •^J^-lCi^ihNriXrlHrS "'!!'" '"■' «--..^-. -P-ing thelonianlslLls. 8.— 9- 10.- 11.- n.—.lfrica. WESTERN COAST OF AritlCA • ■'■-''=2C:fi"£S'Sr,;;s;??iS'a^:T™;rS™^ mcluding Artillery and Engineers - . ' » tar since iHi, ; .3.-Return of all Pay Allowances. Emoluments an.l Salaries issued to Officers of "the Mili.m? l4.-1ranster of S..ldlers to Corps Abroad, in Comnmuuion of Punishment, (with EncIosurJ^ n' T, 15.-Return ot the Average Number of Effective and Nonetleetive Force . e c. Year sncl 8 1-^ stationed 01, ,he West oast of Afiica with the Number of Officers and Me, « „ u"d ' ni ami Eu;:;!::,:'": ''""!"'"'•.'" "":'■ ' ^'r "'' '>■ ''"^'^ p--'^ - "■-- "-• proporli:.. of niaek! Ifi.-Ue.urn showing the Annual Average Strength of tliJ Black and White Troops'oi, the Iv.st Coast of Africa, and the Proi.ortion of Siekiuss and Mortality on the sane Stat 01. for ,1. period eommeneing ,8.7, ai.A ending .8,);), both inclusive .^ - . ' ^°' "'" 17.— Substance 0. a Report from Captain Itoteler, H.E., upon the Forts on the C.M'i-n,.-', 1'.'"^ Dowmng-street, .8tl. December ,816, (with Enclclsures . " "•i^t'^'J ^oast. dated P" ^5 CAPE OF (iOOl) HOPE: j8.— Return of the Numbers and Disirihulidn of the Fffirtivi. F„r/.„ Mn;^„- v • ■ , ly.— Return of all Piy, Allowances, Emoluimnts and S„l„iie. ;.s,..l.„nn' r .1 ».l' '^ showing the Value ol the same at eaih Si.uion . . ^"""'^ '" "je »car lOji, anil [ 'So ] III. — North America. CANADA: 2 1. -Return of the Numbers ami Distribution of the Effective Force, Officer, Non.commissio.ied umcers, and Rank and I'lle, of the British Army, including Colonial Corps, in each Year since i8i5i mcludinK Artillery and Kngineers - . . . . . . pul «2 — Return of all Piiy. Allowances, Emoluments and Salaries issued iO Officers of the Mifitarv (mrrison. Medical and Commissariat Staff, and of the Ordnance nepartment, for the Twelve Months ended 31 March J 833 '. „ . - p. 36 NOVA SCOTIA, &c. a3 -Return of the Numbers and Distribution of the Effective Force, Officers, Non-commissioned Officers andlSank and File, of the British Army, including Colonial Corps, in each Year since 1815; iiicluiling Artillery and Fngineers - . . . . . . n at P-47 NEWFOUNDLAND: ■24-Re(urnof the Numbers and Distribution of the Effective Force, Officers. Non-commissioned Officers and Rank and I- lie, of the British Army, including Colonial Corps, in each Year since 1815; including Artillery and Engineers - - . . _ . - p. 48 NOVA SCOTIA, NEWFOUNDLAND, &c. Sj— Return of all Pay, Allowances, Emoluments nnd Salaries issued to Officers of the Military (.arnson, Medical and Commissariat Staff, and of the Ordnance Department, for the Twelve •Months eiulfd 31 March 183c . . - p. 40 BERMUDA: ■ifi.-Return of the Numbers and Distribution of the EHoctivo Force, Officers, Non-comn,issioned Officers, and Bank niui File, of the British Array, including Colonial Corps, in each Year since 181.5; Miclmlmg Artillery ;ind Engineers . - - - . . - p,6 27.— Reuirn ot all I'ay, Allowances, Emoluments and Salaries issued to Officers of the Military, C.arrii,on, Medical and Commissariat Staff, and of theOrdance Department, at the Bermudas, tor llie Iwclve Months ended 31 March 1833 . . . . . . ,,,_ IV. — Eastern Possessions. 28._ 30- 33-' or. — 36. CEYLON : Return of the Numbers .and Distribution of the Effective Force, Officen,, Non-commissioned U.,cc>. and R:.nk and 1,1... ot tu- British Army, inchuliiif. Colonial Corps, in each Year since IM;-,; including Arlillerv 1111(1 Engmoers f^ -Itaurn of all I'ay, Allmvaiices,' Kinolunients and Salaries issued to Officers of'the Military Mo^Ciu^d 3;''^;:rch';8;;;^"™' "."• "■"' "'''" "':'"""? '^^r"""!'"' '°' ""= '•'-f -Statement of the Colonial Allowances, per Month, paid to the Military Officers at Cevlon' al conipaixMl will, the Estmiat..d Expense, per Month, of Allowniices',i„ Kind) as iLed to Military O.hcers at other loieigi, Stations; whicli Statement accompanied the Report of the Co,iiptro!lei-.,ol Army Accounts, No. 188, of 14 March 18 j8. - . ,, ( ( ! -Native Headmen attached to His Excellency the (ioveriior's (Jate - . ,' (;« "''^?n"'!^"u.h" H ^'""^^"'t"' °*'"';' ■1;""' Annual Value of the several Military Allowances is.iable to each Rank o( StaH and Regimental Officers (in addition to their Fay) at the under- mentioned lor.iga. Stations according to the present Establishment, distinguishing those at which a Colonial ( oniimited Allowance is paid in Money, and those at which with tliP exception of I.odgin.s and Black Servants' M'oney, the same'are issued in Kmd' - I 1, -Schedule showing the Saving by the Reduction in the Establisliinent. Ceylon Light Dragoons, -Statement prepared from the Accounts of the (iovernment of Ceylon, for the Year 1812 (lleins t he latest Iteturns received at the Audit Office), showing the Amount paid in one Veur by he Colony or out o( the Colonial Iteveiuies ,0 the Officers of the C.arrison of Ceylon no^ EncTosure -■ ' '"""*'' ''""' "'"''' "'" f""'' '" '"'''• """"""« '" '''" "'">'' («"'' ' [>■ 74 NEW SOCTII WALES, VAN DIEMENS LAND, &e. ; "oi'Zrf nH'l^,""''"'V"'l' "'^'r*"' •"",'•'■""■ '■"'"•"ve I'orce, Officers, Non-commissioned 8 I, r. I v;;'.l '• 7 i""-' '"""''' ^""^' "'^'"^"'K ^'"'""'^' ^'"H-- in each Year since ixi, , .iicluiling Artillery and Engineers , Return of all I'ay, Allowances Emoluments and Salaries issued to Officers of' the MiliW Vi'::,:;r' ^'^f'^T'u '' V»"""'»«"''" '^"'"'' "■"' »'""= ""'"-ncc Department, for the t3 ,'jyiitli-, inoeu ,ii .March s^ii - - . '^'^ ■■■--- - p. 80 !'• HI [ >8i J V.—IVest Indies. JAMAICA : J7- -Uctuniof the Numbers and Distribution of the Kffc'Ctivi. R.r,.o nir,„ m . . Odlcers, and Unnl: and lile, of the Hritish Armv inH wL /■ r' ^^T'' Non-coixniissioned 1815; including Artillery and Engineer' ^' "'''"« ^"'''"'"' ^"'i"> "'""^^^ Y~ar since P- 85 HONDURAS: 38 — Return of the Numbers and Distribution of the Rffi.nivA P„,„„ na Officers, and Hank un.l File, of the Hrilt Ann Tncbidin!r f' ^fn""' Non-commissioncl 1815 i including Artillery and KnKineers - ^' "''''"''"K<^'''<""al Corps, m each Year since P-85 JAMAICA AND HONDLRAS- Months ended 31 Marcl' 1833 - . . Ordnance Department, for the Twelve • p. 8G WINDWARD AND LEEWARD ISLANDS: 40.- Return of the Numbers and Distribution of the Effective Form nffi,.„, v • . Olhcers, and Rank and rile, of the liriti.b \rmv inri , in!rT "w '"' '^"""mm'ssioned 18.5 ; including Artillery and EnginecTS . ^ ^'''''""'' *'"'"■ '" •-''"^'' Year since 4l.-ncti!rn of all Pay, Allowances, EmolMments and Snlari.s" issued to 0(r,r,"r= of",.. a'.-.P''^" Garrison, Medical, and Commissariat Stalf, and of the Ord m^. n . „ . .^r ""I ^'''""y. Months ended 31 Alarch 1833 - ^Jrdnancj Department, for the Twelve MAURITIUS: 44— Return of the Numbers and Distribution of the Fil,.,-iiv.. Pnr.o nas Months ended 31 March 1833 - ' ""'nance Department, for the Twelve - - - p. Jo8 ^'i- — Misci'/loiu'ous. ^^-' oi^n--:: t :^ ti^rr -iJ^^;-:,;Sed)t t.^jr Kx^nduure y'e::,: Return., being those for the Year iSji . .' ^*""' """'''''"S "' the latest - p. iia o..'5. 2] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITfEE [Mediterranean. I. — Mediterranean. — No. 1.— OIBRALTAR. RETURN of the Numbers and Distribution of the Effective Force OrncEHs, Non- commissioned OiFicEKS. and Rank and File of the Briti.*Ii Army, including Colonial Corps, in each Year since 1815. Including Aitilk'ry and Engineers. Officers I'reient. or oji Detached Duty at the Slat on. 11 in 2 E E a Q V . Is- 1 a B a S 1 s e 1 IS a 1 CO u« u 1 .20 C e 25 Jan. 1816 2 4 33 57 21 a 4 3 3 10 1 ■d3 91 2,967 — 1817 2 6 35 71 28 4 4 4 4 6 229 9J 3,826 — 1818 - 3 6 34 51 20 4 4 4 2 (5 199 86 3.392 — 1819 4 6 40 43 25 3 3 3 3 6 17G 81 3,344 — 1820 5 .5 32 38 24 4 4 4 4 142 81 2,869 — 1821 4 6 27 34 27 4 4 5 ,5 4 130 86 2,632 — 1822 5 5 27 4> J9 3 4 3 ^ 3 125 50 2,604 - 1823 1 6 3 24 44 '7 3 4 4 3 .0 Hf) 50 2.533 — 1824 4 7 3" 43 19 4 3 4 5 3 123 48 2.542 - 1825 3 8 3-i 44 24 C> 4 5 5 3 149 Go 2,987 — 1826 7 4 37 4fl 19 4 (5 () .'i 4 I'M G9 3,352 — 1827 — 1 828 7 6 5 32 27 47 43 19 14 3 4 5 •^ b 5 4 G 7 1G9 172 60 G2 2,9821 2,929J — i82y 6 fi 48 .)3 24 4 5 6 G 12 '99 B9 3,519 — 1H.30 1 8 4 40 47 23 5 4 ,0 ,5 8 lf)(i 70 3.53» 1st.Ian.1831 1 1 1 7 1 5 3.'. 39 24 5 4 .') 7 9 196 66 3,310 — 1832 1 8 2 3j 40 18 5 t! 7 () i8() 68 3,105 — 1833 » i 5 4 1 32 41 '7 5 4 t; T) 7 1 MM 1 G9 3.188 1^ (») Exclusive of two regiments detached to Lisbon, and iacluiling one from Malta. Adiutant-(iciicrars Office,! 2/-, Marili i8;j4. J lohn Maidimiild, Adjutant-General. C) Gibr jitar.] ON I VIILITAR V EST AHLk aiMENTS, CO LOT JIES. [3 U c a Si" " 2PQ0 J til 3 3 V CO g 5j c' CO in •T -0 ,- _, n CO 00 "3 ! 1 c O o < 1^1 Succeeded L Mair as Aide- froni 1 9 May elusive ; absen CO 2 ^ "s 1 1 Q. •a i I — ' -411 "-*» ■"TN-^Ot f4M ~^, •^tn .^of — ■ ►J - -^ •n^ I- i^ -» ^ - 1 . 01 00 fe" '* •^ (0 < =? = '^ ? 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Cl Cl d Cl "^ •-" ■0 .9 < ^ -^5?, r^ « r^ a. 00 ■♦ CO ■5 s - 5 c ' ' ' — ^-1 1 1 • t r- 1 • 1 1 1 1 i • '£ • • 1 f„ it = " — -^ 1= X ? ^ « 1-1 .! Ill ^ »—».—' 's 1 1 1 J~ • • 1 , 'S "3 o >5 a •■ 1 Y. i 'J 1 3 ,7 i5 .J .Mll.llARY STAFF: I,iti;ttn:itit governor • • 1 a. 1 1 -3 1 •J < ,3 0.25. a J 4] APPENDIX TO HRPORT FROM SEl.RCT COMMITTER [Mediterranean; O O O CC O O 'O O »0 ■:* '^ CO ci « « + < ^ [^ s '^. = X L- >J c 1 o C ™ o H H O V. o > . . -! -c c ?i ' ' bo * ' 1 H Q a; re ' ' 41 IS o . .-'• 41 . T5 C fl.ri .2 • 1 1 < t2 u •< ill ■j.t , , ' — -. — ■ > .•— I * = c ■,- ^i. rt B .rW V T L, Q ":'<^^ 5 5 f i ^ -y "z tL 1 ^. 1 ^' a. 1 ■"" — - ™ ^ ^ '-'^ i< -ais ■ ;i;^ i ^ *■■ -t: - u If a i -^-^U 00 ;o oo -. » "O "O "O >o 1 ■s Q 1.-3 I I o I O CO I to 00 F« o c I ui >o K5<0 •* « » lOtO ■>*• — "too f>.;D->^e«-<«-. — r^oo ««-*ui

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[Mcd.terrancan; fO< =-3 o > B a I B <4 O >/' k= "^ iS ^ 2 3 0) ■« "S 2 .fc 5 e ' , 2 X . - * ^ o « i: 2 i.-3 J .2 . ** J? - ;- 1, ••i'.i ;— ;- ——____, I -> < a '^^ S, •<■ ^ ^' -t c< s , J! S ( ■ • ■ I ° ^s . » I I I I II • •ill ■•■ill '■'••• .11 ■ I ■ > ■ t • I I I I • ■•Ill •r, H p i-I •< U u 'f!30 * » OO n - "1 o n 1^ - rr r- jj ~5 -1 ~, tx 't I- r- o ro vi • ■••II • • • t • I I I • ■ ■ • I I ■ ' • • I I I I I • I ' ' ■ I W CI • . =" •<: > ii 1 1 -»-» •^■":C^ '^^ - U, -^ >* < u, 7: ". 1^ < c H r> ^^xS '■^ 5 2-^ /i '5 3 1" i ■« A yi o O ^ S y: - O oo •^ '■> 1 %i -J ■■-■■• a ' -'^ Si.. '-^ - J s. . ' ■ .£ I H _ o H 'ft a < ; '-^ :^ J ;^ '^ < ^ i*^ ■ i^ ' ?: P -J o z, ^" C 2 ei I-' P •J •< U y, u fJibraltnr. ON MILITARY liSTAFlLISHMnMS, COLONIES. [7 - No. 3. — EMOLL'MF.NTS of GovaBNon and LiEUTENANT-ooVEnNuB o( Gibraltar. Governor. Ln»D CiiAiiux vTiis appointed to the government of Gibraltar on the 5th of March 1H20, llo resided there from the ifith of November 1H21 to the 7th of June 182/5. While he ailniinislered the i;overnment, und held the conimnnd, his emoluments con- sisted cif .Salary as governor - . - . . Pay ns cuinmandin); ofiicer - • - . From army ordinaries .... £. s. 2,Hno - 3.500 - d. 7 ''.!)!)i 19 7 £. s. d. 3f'5 - - 345 - Hcsides the rrfjulated allowances of rations, foracre and fuel, of the annual value of about 700/. LibCTF.NANT-OOVBRNOB. During the Governor's presence, the Lientenant-j^overnor received Pay, as lieutenant-governor - From army ordinaries \Vilh, it is presumed, the usual allowances. Hut durin;; the Governor's absence, the Lieiitenant-siovernor received, in addition to the above pay, the pay of the otlicer commaiidiut; the garrison: £. s. d. 711 15 - 3.000 - - ^'- t.3H '5 - The Governor remaining in ihr receipt of his salary of 2,Roo/., in addition, it is presumed, to his mdit.iry [lay (ifniii /. ijjs. ~d. voted in army ordinaries. Tilt; Downing-strcet Commission recommended the following establishment: £. t. d. Governor -..-.. Alluwariccs (not valued, but say) Licultn;iiit-s;()v( riior - . . . Allowances (not proposed, but say) - 5,000 - - 700 - - 711 - - 300 - 0,711 His Maiesiy's Government, however, in March iSji, decided, that when the othco of ijoveniur should bi'ciiinc viicaiit, the salary slioidd be .-,,(ino/., but without any allowances whatever; and it bcini; then iiili'iidiMl to recall ilic Lii'\itcnaiit-j;()vcin(ir, Sir Gi'orsje Don it was at llie same lime decided, that tile fuluie lieutenaiit-^uvcnior should be of the rank of a lieutenant-general, Keceivin'4 stall' pav .... And salary duriut; the governor's absence With allowances of his rank, say £. £. £. s. d. i,3:-i5 - - ■J ,000 - - 3-3«5 - - ;jor> - _ 3.cr Aiiiium. £. 330 ». rf. £. *. .'-, 22 20 18 24 2(J 24 2(i 3'f 36 23 31 23 '-4 32 3« 20 '5 22 ' l() '.■i 18 I '9 I '^ ' 13 >7 >4 18 18 "7 13 13 8 4 4 3 I '■' 1 2 2 2 i 3 3 3 .3 1 3 4 < 4 4 3 4 r, I 4 to E 3 o , ,3 4 2 3 •1 3 2 I ,3 .'. 3 ' 4 7 4 r, 3 I 3 3 3 4 2 3 4 , 3 , 4 I 2(10 ' 1.-.3 141 84 71 80 87 8<) 83 77 I'i) 123 123 '49 '51 121 'j+ 8fi 78 .5'i 44 44 4..^i)f> I '>4.'j7 1 '.,'l20 '.Uit |,!)14 ".778 2,032 2. ^ SJT.: «• tH-00 O ■n - ' = 3 ^<-2 i -4S5r? - S 1= ^-' ' ' 1 ^ 1 1 = 113 i O-xJ ^ ' 1 1 1 1 t 1 1 1 1 . •" 1 1 1 ' >,. Ik. •^ I '£1 M 'i o> O l-» J . ^— - 3 X 3 •fl 3 r! ass i »*( o »o r^ r^ ►^3 VI ■N -. 'O .000 00 a ^5 «r -• a s-l ■Si • f e >.^ ' « ** 3 n I to I • >0 «-» u^ on 1^ w n - •» r* r^ in CO r:oo - - ^ O c S o a . „ to to I r* r* u^ W 1^ o 2 5 — o c U '-' c -^ ^ 2 a 0. -:■-■- o y-i^fj ' SI =-^ k-i & ^ :e a> - ' = SsS =5 > ;j ?: <: 3 I iC' »^ -T — *- c f ». L- c C 3 "fl fl 3 H H 'J ;5 H 3 ci a. . §; c c/3 a S "O « .2 i a. /, — n <<5 a, o I g a.' ? ■ =f- ?-5 o « « <- O I O 0> O) I I to o^ ^ ».■) _ a o — "• " >r)n n vi n t ■ III •"t- >»■ t ■«• I I I I e* « 51 c« V-<-,' I r- I o o oc fo o "M r-* CO !-• CI c* « I to 1^ I 2 1- It- c. 2 s s I a-3 I tg' o to -o - O 0> I I « JT Jr ^ " ° '-c t^ j_ c = r> * ji tr w ; 2 « — ." i-i -4 ■< Q J 5^ (a '^ to o "■ o> Ol I I 'ti>.f^r*cocoo O •»■ 1^ r^ lO CO o to X) =; M w w - «i ra « Ill ' • I • I 1 1 I , _ _ = • o s • > $n, : S U =■>•. 73 << < O — fcj Wl.k«l .— O <; H o ° ° 2 « J! 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U.QQ ^•i I I ' • ^ • I I f I I I • I I I ' ' .- 5 ' 1 I I I I'^ir I I I I I f I J3 L. _ t5 f- a V ,« r^ T „ X M I I U) <; c ; -° c 5-" - -J « CI -• J cc o ^ ^ 1 2 5 • s ^ u5 O '0 o -- ^ CO HM-ctra* 1 rtt^ c .0 •-• I^ C5 W C3 »« £ 1 1 Q' C 3 ^ -rs o 1 1 1 -t r3 o> c< - « 1 1 1 1 1 1 ■+ n Si ri — c« ■ 5 « • < -^ V Malta.] ON MILITARY ESTAOLISUMENTS, COLONIUS. [n 3'= t 1 ■- ? ■ e y^5 u ^ -2 ^j , • « c r -^-"■)» N'l-W 05 Ol 05C1 C^OO CO «o t-T Ol CO a> •+ « - " •" -» f^ to Ol ^ ■^ >** '-T' O'j 'O *0 -* - 00 d « CI m — «• o t O Of CI. ai 13 . 0-~ E a . o -a :„S =: J 5 -^O-O <« a> t* tfi 4; i" !-• C S S ' 2.00 .51 c s ^ rt *j a, Qi c • • I I I I Ci 31 a> O) CO -t " - ^ , , O ro CO CO n 1 o ■ 1 1 00 «e*(Nciwco«o»-«o^o lo I I _ I "* »o irs • ••II I I I I I '0?. j):n;r-itt-f+o .* ^-shoociJiOiHi-CTio 'C ■- 1^ I- I- r^ I I I I 2- , I _ I I CO CO I, 1, CO - - 1^ ^ 1^ I .. 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M E 0) -« k-l _i J 4, t i£ P< "J.-.. "! ? g ' ;j iri a < if ^ a *^ "y -^ ?" s I I I >;; < 5 2 - < 5 « :i o z " 2 -c ^ /•, i 1 = tJ u i < - w >!»,«!; ij O O ■■»l ■ i ^ '^ ^ — £-•£ " 'tis ^ ?" ,1111111 £ I S , 5^3 H O eg i3 1 A ' I ' 7 'i ;; - s fe S I. i_ ^ C 1) •. - ; v^ 4. £ -3 s-'/lUH-au CI Si;? b 2 1 1 ■SQ m - > - CI fO :k (o ■ •-. •/: 12] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [Mediterranean; — No. 7. — IONIAN ISLANDS. UETURN of the Numbers and Distribution of the Effective FoncE, Officers, Non-Commis- MONED Officers and Rank nml Imj.e, of the Hriiish Army, including Colonial Cciirs, in each year since 1815; including Artillery and Engineers. Officers l'rp»en ,or on Uttachcd Diiij at the Slalion. 1 J; u I- = 5 S.' ~ s — 1 ■a 1 ! ^ i s \3 S V ■a E 1 c < 3 " 11 1^ E E s c C ■i,-, .Ian. 181G - 5 6 4.5 Si) 30 5 6 6 3 8 290 108 4.320 - ,8.7 - 9. 4 26 57 28 ; 3 4 3 2 C 195 84 ..,145 — 1818 - 3 , .'•) 22 41 '9 3 2 3 2 G >33 58 2,431 — 'S19 - 1 5 5 32 45 29 3 3 I 3 3 8 166 70 3,100 — 1820 - 1 5 5 26 42 23 3 J ' 2 4 5 141 78 2,761 — 1821 - 6 8 33 5G 3.0 4 1 5 4 5 5 15G 93 3>04G — i8ia - 5; 8 4' Oo 41 6 6 6 C 5 163 72 3.596 — 1823 - 4 11 35 46 27 6 C 6 4 / 153 tJC 3.4G3 — 1 824 - 5 >o 3a 45 2.') .'■) 4 5 3 7 170 cg 3,5' G - 1825 1 - r> y 30 4' 27 5 5 C, 1 4 7 «54 G5 3,166 -- \»iG - 5 66 3.127 — 1828 1 ,5 4 3^ 48 22 C 5 f) ; 6 j 1 (J 194 Ct) 3.342 — .829 I 1 7 " ! 44 C'- 31 7 8 6 G 9 247 83 1 4.32a — 1830 1 ?! 7 47 5« 3' 7 8 8 7 8 1 257 87 4.445 1 .I.U1. i8;jl 1 1 ,5 ' 5 30 rfi ?.3 6 7 7 i 5 225 77 3.745 — i8;2 i 1 fi .5 ■i'J I 42 16 6 5 i G 7 6 •93 C3 :f.077 - i8;M , 1 ,5 : 4 :,o ! 38 '< 18 ' 5 6 f) 1 ^ 7 187 C3 2.983 .Adiutant-gencTnl's Office,! JoAfl MacHonald^ 20 Marc! 1 i(<^ 4- i Adjut ant-g cneral. I Ionian Islands.] ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS, COLONIES. ['3 — No. 8.— IONIAN I .S L A N D S. llETl'UN vi uU Pay, Allowances, Emoluments and Salauies issued to Ofticers of the Military, Garrison, Medical and Commissariat Staff, and of the (Ordnance Department, in the Ionian Islands, for the Twelve Months ended ,}i March 1833. I' ;> 14] • APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITfEE rModitcrraiieai). t; tc o < •J E < -3 c Q a ■/; H Z U B ,J O W ^i i 'O 1 1 I^ Olio 1 ( n o 1 r- c» >•': 1 r< 1 ac - .J> '•TO :?) '.1 eg r- Olio 1 — '1 ji I'- '-'; 1.? t>. 1 , CO _ ,? T7 -C .- I- t -T 1-. - r; ~5 - C5 ' 1 is 3 -a ' ^J ' ^ u 4 < t-i ^ X o ! S a. 3 I 73 5 . „ c -a n 2 a. u J3 E^ U ■ = 0) -. I- c .a Q Q-ta " < s 'rt SI 0. Ionian Isia ds.] ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS, COLONIES. o C .i CO - o c '-^ ■it^i^i ^ * s-^-^ - ■= s^ s n o '^ =« I • I I CI < ■-0 I O I oi l-N CO CO ro d c« rt ' e« rt cs >^ >> >> , c« :« 4 I Cl >-■-> lO I I I I I I I I i I I I I I I 1 * I I • ■ I I I I I CO t/i »- « ~ d 51 00 ai CO ' r-* CO O) l~* o ^ CO r (o to to a.'*) «o -,0 o « o o 1 o to I i 10 O r^ CO r-» I-., I.-; fo — -• ~ T. 05 u*: 'ri 00 o to to to oj-o -o to d CO o : I to I r I •:ic»t>.cor».c l•^ ^^ •* M -r. rrs .'?N -/^ rN r^, I »-o r* CO r-* li^ »o CO *- — • a Ci x o oo «■*■*• n I 2 ^ S S 3 ^ E t;-5 S £Sfi o*. ^ -i u o ->< .^ w , . !f) o t/3 •»; 3 o tj o jj en H ' — o o , — a> 2 O ' £ £ ■ ■ a ■ 'a. .2-3 to 5 J ' I ^ ' « = 4 a ' ['5 — w w o r^'C to ^ 1^ Ci r^ '^ -oto « c — CI :< d t^to to to e ' ' ' « o 3 2 : -3 -3 O _ I r ' CO I I I o eto -M :^ I I I I I I I I O 0« oto O to ct c^ ^ ' * - • '- i. rt 2 -5 H •u ■s ►%> c N ^ tc (U c ^- . O e rrr ^^ oi t.J f < u. a < a « A n 2S 1 1 S n; UJ ul 1 - q3 (J 1,4 4 ^**-IJ? = f2 -^ •- • ~ p^ w I ;H;;a r H 16] Q »-. •A f- ;^ •n 3 9! j^ «: &. 7, < O APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE fMediterraiiean; u ■*- c ^ 1 1 1 ( b. 1 s •« 3 S 1 a> 1 . Si 0, w -* ? J u ^ a cd U -• (. u w u 1^ ? rt OJ ^ ';> *. ■/) £. — - -Z If 3 X H '^ = ^ i- « OS o H H Q ■^ Z i'. o 3 w c« a; O ?• u i-;^<:^0_; c-«ia ao-) 3 o .2 Mediterranean; n - ) •* n 00 CO B - O 3 o .2 ■it < Ionian iHlands.] ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS, COLONIES. [«7 u. ^ u J3 CL, M a rt > fO a, g o 4) 2 oo 00 00 Tj- -. Tj- lo r-to -t ^ r» v) n CO c^cD CO 't* o o o I 00 '^ ^ I t^ 00 00 QO 3j OJ'O Ti •<)• COO (S ■>)■ - I I I I I I • III! COCOCO -^OOOOQOOOOCCOCOOO Tt- 'r-co>--«-ioO:o»< loooe* rZ J2 £2 :x, :5, 5"!2. ^s* o> ^ '•■'o '^'^'^C>0>'0**cOio>0'»--H 00 r^ L-: CO o> O CO >o t^ O I CO 0500 t>* »0 CO o eo o r- o I CO OlOO 1^ »0 CO I m .-3 oj "S -^ ^ W ^ 5 a. > o • ■ .tX)to — COCOO-" w<-,<:a,_) ii-"s- cT To"??^!! c a o I CO U1 o o in CO o us <4 3 < ° H uo O H 1 — » ea -" e« « O) c» 00 CO a>0 e» - C0 435 ::: g "^ O t- CO r» B 05 «" cf cT 2 sj »5 »-■ u O ; It'J! .8] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [Meditmaneftn. — No. f). — DIJ>1 RIBUTION o( the Thoofs it. liie Ionian Islumh. Uuiik 411(1 file. Coilu - - Royul Artillery - l•i^ Eiigint'tTN ;< lotli Regiment - 35 nth - - 23 ,01 Rt - . 414 H8t!i - - 447 f>6'h - - 34 2(1 Battalion RiHe Rrigade - 452 1,524 Vido - - Royal EnirineerB 54 loth Regiment - 440 518t - - 14 88lh - - 7 3d Battaliou Riile Brigad* - 13 .. ,, „ Itiiiik Ul;ll Fill. aanta Maura, Royal Artillery k^ nth Regiment loB Paxo - - Royal EnKincem 1 loth Regiment - 1 f)5th - - 30 3d Battalion Rifle Brigade - 1 1 March 1834. ;-)22 Cfifalonia - Royal Artillery 13 I ith Regiment - 1 J»6"' - - 353 ZanU; - - Royal Artillery •i{\ 1 nil Regiment 278 Ithaca and fRoyal Artillery 5 Calamos. [1 It'll Regiment 45 Cerigo - - Roval Artillery 4 y^th Regiment fi-. 12.'-. 3G7 304 50 33 Total fi3 _«7_ 2,982 — No. 10.— Section II. Chap. VII. of the C.nsti 1 i tionhi. CIhart v-flhe lomnn Ishwds. M I Ll T A U Y l',.s I A II 1. 1 Ml M 1; N 1 . Article 1 The military defence of the United States of the Ionian Islands hrin.- placed 11. the hands of the protecting sovereign, the sole regular military estabhsliMK-^t .shall consist of the forces of His Majesty. "i .-m'.iu Article. Indepei.d.nt of tlie regular troops of llis Majesty the protecting .soverei.n. there shall bo established 111 each island a corps of militia. 1 ^.vf '-' ;V ''/''■' "''''"'",''""'" ';':''!« ■!''',""' "•' ""^ """«» •^t''"'^ "f'the Ionian Islands shall 1)0 left to the Cominaii(ler-in-chi.( of the forces of the j.n.lectiii.' sove.ei.ni within the same, subject to the approbati.)n of the Senate, and of his E.vceilencv the Lord lli..!. Commissioner of the protecting sovereign. " ^ Article 4. The general charg.. of preserving the tramniijlity of the country I.ein- imme- diately and directly connerled Willi the military establishinent, the hi.rj,' uoUcv of the niled Sta.t^ of the Ionian Island., shall be place.l under the dnecl inanaul-ment of his Ivxcellcncy the Lord Ui-h toniiiiissioner of the tuot. cliiiu soveiei-Mi an.i His Miiestv'« Cornniander-in-chief. " ^ ■ j>-' V " Article 5. No odieer can be appointed to any corps of the niiima (,f the Ionian Islamis who IS not a native-born sub)e(t of the same. Article, llis .Majesty ti.e protertiiig sovereign shall appoint inspectors and sub- inspectors of the militia ol the Ionian Islands, who shall be either Hiiiish or Ionian ofticers. '"" Article 7. The corps of the m.litia of each island shall be placed under the control of the inspectors or sub-inspectors of the mihtia appointed by His .MajeMy the protectuiLr sovereign. j . 1 "»">(, Article 8. The regular forces of His Majesty the protecting sovereign shall in all in stances of civil suit, be amenable to the laws of the land withn. the United States of the Ionian Islands. Article ,,. The regular forces of the protecting s.ivcreiirn 111 these States shall, 111 lesi.ect to ciiminal jurisdiction, be alone tinbject to the martial law of llis Ma|estv AllKle 10. The militia wilhin these Stales is of cui.e sub|ect to the laws of the land • butwii.n It shall have been duly .,igani/ed and called out, if shall be amenable to the' niaitial law ul »h. pili8hcil number of His Majesty's troops for tiic these islands shall be considered as consisting of 3,000 men ; but it shall be to increase or dimmish that number, as His Majesty's Commander-in-chief fittin^j. Article 12. All expense of quartering the regular forces of His Majesty the sovereign, and, generally speakinu, all military expense of any kind to be i these .States (as far as relates to the 3.000 men above named), shall be paid general treasury of the same. ' garrison of competent may deem protecting ncurred by out of the iir. -No 11. - 3G7 304 io ARTICLES V. and VI. between Gnat linlmn and liuista. &,c., respecting the Ionian hlandu, signed at Pans 5th November 1818. In order to ensure without restriction to the inhabitants of the United States of the Ionian Islands the advantages resulting from the high protection under which these States are pliico.l as well as for the exercise of the rights inherent in the said protection. His JSrilannic INIajesty shall have the right to occupy the fortresses and places of those States and to niainlaiii garrisons in the same. Tlie military force of the said United Stales shall also be under the orders of the Commauder-in-chief of the troops of His Britannic Maiestv Uis Uritannic Majesty consents, that a particular Convention with the Government of tiesanl United States shall regulate, according to the revenues of those States every thing which may relate to the maintenance of the fortresses already existing as well as to the subsistence and payment of the British garrisons, and to the number of men of whio.i tliey shall be composed in time of peace. The saiiie Convention shall likewise 6x the relations which are to exist between the said armed force and the Ionian Government. II. — Africa. No. 12. — WrSTEIlN COAST or AfUlCA. UFTLIIN ,.l the Number a.wl Distribution of tl.t Kkikciivk loact:. NoN-. ommissioned OrtuvM an< 1 ASK an, lii.Eoftlie liritish Army, MKludmg Colonial Corps, in each Year since 181V, • inclmlm(5 Artillery and Lngincers. ^ • '.> . 1 Officers I'reaenf, or on Detacliei Uuly at Ibe ijiatiun. i 1 i i II d J3 1 a ; ■J I .a s 1 3 •< 5 1 = 3 1 I i s a 1 a ■i^, Jan. i8i(> > — \*l^ 1 — 1818 :i i\ : 4 () 2 1 2 8 7 y 1 1 \ - 2 1 53 57 20 20 1)1)4 — '^'y 1820 1 1 1 I 4 1 \ 1 1 1 25 21 24 10 fi 7 .■| 9 1 1 1 2 1 1 - 1 1 1 1 1 2 3 •i 20 17 5« 1 •'■'7 1 1 1 10 1,-. It; 21 16 '7 ,143 ..-,28 - '\ ' I ti - - - ' y 1 2(1 , 5 '!) 1 4 44,S 3"5 - '■'*;« 1 4 7 I ■^\ - 1 I 1 1 1 1 l.-i • 4 2(i j 4 Ailiiil.inl-f;im'iMr.s Olfii r,1 /., ';» ^ ''ii'liiiinlil. "^.11 1 .'VHjiit. nl gi neifll. AI'PKNDIX TO HRPORT FIK)M SEFJ.CT f:OMMITTRK M [\V. Coait mi [W. Coa.t of Africa.] ON MILITARY F.STAHMSHMHItTS. COLONIES. [ai -*J* -«* Ci (£) o M t^ eo CO 1 ■ 1 • • t — .— . 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CI -f 1 00 - to to CO (?) 1 1 1 Cl to 1 1 "5 to - >o o '.t - 1^ 1^ 1^ 1^ 00 to o lOOO 00 t^ o to to c< 00 o CO •n 00 ..-^ CO CO CI to i* to CO CO c» CO c< CO o « to 00 1^ to to CI CO CTi - '-0 >o -«■ -J- r^ ^ O * 1 00 - to to - O) 1 to ^,— ' O to 1 CO ■<■ to t^ «o CO 1-! -. r^ 1^ 1^ 1^ 00 1 !>. OO i^ o to 00 Cl "^ ■■ "^ »H '* '^ 3 '•; — c* 'O CO CO c< CO 05 tr CO I-* to o o ».o " to •» 04 CO CT to Cl CO O CO •«• oo 1 1 B 1 1 • 1 1 1 * 1 1 ' 1 55 1 ■ ^ 1 1 1 1 1 > • 1 1 1 1 • t B ^ t 1 1 1 •^ -" ^ t3 o u 01 e "E e o o Q Q s i ^ 1 1 1 CO - t>. J 1 a o 2 ^a O "O ci3 S^ -3 ?■ SS _ a « - 2 U w ffi ^ c c CO? 4) e ^ C5 o.-'5. I OTl AI'IM'NDIX TO RF.POriT FROM SFJ.I-CT COMMITrKK rw. co«»t M M ^ 3 W j3 bo <^ « 3 J 5 HW " 03 3 J 4> • ■ I T3 ^ Jl g ■5 « o - a H < 0. a. a, t- -0 J S I s> <-• 2 •• • -§■? 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THE Rc^ulutioim, ul which u vopy ih HiibjDiiu'd, iinilfi' which Sitlditirii hiivc l)i.'i:u iilluwed to coraniute puniithnient for icrvicc iibruud, nru iiu longer in turcc. "«•» •J ")'■) 1 {2 f - ' .« • *? i 1 •A "• ^i 1* V f' .a a £. o 1 a 1 .3 • u 8 • » m o 1 ' J 1 < dl h a fS 3 S o s s. 'rrdii.ifer itf Soliliem to Ctirp* Alirmul in CnmHUtlnlinn nf' Viiunhimiil, In iiiHlniii'i'H wherein I'oinniiinilini: ollicerN of reuinientit iit lionie are iiidiieeil, from oar- ticuliir eirciunstiiiU'eM, to recmnnKMid th.it Noldiers iimler r-eiilcnee of i-oiirts-iii:inlid in^v lie liei'iiiitted to lie triiiisrerrnl lo le'^iineiils mi lori'ii^ii serviec, in eoiiniiiitiitiuii dC thi' (Hirii'irid iiiiiiiNliiiieiil wliie.li iniiy have lieeii awardeil ii^ainst llieiii, tlie a|i|ilii'ulioiis (vvhii |i urt: li> lii> lorwHrded tliroii^li the i;eiier»l otlicer coniinaniliii'^, I'nr tlie deiisiiiii id tlie ('(iiniiiaiidi r iii-cliler) are lo lie ai"eoiii|iaiiied liy a reliini, aeididiiif; to tlie I'lirni (iieiicnliecl IkIdw, winch nniNt lie aei'iirntely tilled nii. ThiH retnrn \* to coiilain a request, Ni^rnud hv tliii Holdier liiuiHcll', to lie pcrnutlud to eoiniimli! hJM |innishnient for Neivice nliroad, witluiilt liiiiitatiuli ; and a eerlilicate, iii|j;iied liy the seimir medical ollicer doiie^ duty with the ieu;iinent, iit mich soldier licin;; in every respect (it for Icpreitrn service. When men arc allnwed to conimnte the piiniNhment nwiirded ii^ainst them for dfrnertiori, tho date of Iheir dcNertion, nml of their Hinreiider or appreheiiKioii, is to lie iiiHcrted in the column aljiittcil fcir p.irticniars of Keiviee, in art of lli' sentence liy winch a Noldier, u;inlty of desertion, is to Iniieil all lieiii lil as to increase i,l pay, iind as to pension on discharge, to which he would be entitled lor service previous to the neiioil ol Ills ilcNertion, A soldier is nut to lie allowed lo lie transferred, in ciimimitation of pnnisliinenl, until all his cl.iims for pay, clothni!^, &c. shall have been fully setlled; and a soldier is not to he Hcnl abroad in <^iiinmutation of piinisliuient, but bv Ins own free (oiiseiil and desire. The general olhcers coinmaiiiliii'^ districts and briijades, in liansmittinir applicalionn of this nutnrc for the decision of the (./'omniandcr-in-idiief, are to report, by lelier, sne.b eir- cninstances of any otlender's condncl as may be liirtlier necessary to explain tin; cunsc on account of which the transfer is recommended. On the Cominandei-in-chief's authority beint; received for the transfer of a soldier under these circumstances, a duplicate of the reliirii, prescribed below, is to be forwarded (in ehnri^e of the non-coininissioned otlicer of the escort) to the commandant in the Isli; of Wi-hl. A soldier of a rei;inient of militia cannot be transferred to the regular army, in connnu- tation of |iniiishiiient, without tlii' previous approbation of the Lord Lieutenant of the county to which tln' rc^inieiil belongs. It a soldier, who is enlisted for liiiiiled service unlv, oilers to connniite punishment for service abroad, and Ins otiir is accepted, he must be aitt sted for service wilhonl limitation. 'Ihc attestation of a siddier, who is thus transli rred, is to act'oinpany the return trans- inilted to the Isli' of \\ ii;ht : the eanse of llie transfer, and the dale cjfthu iiulhorily, aru to be written on the atteslalion. With u view (if lioldini; lorth an iiicilenient lo ri'forinatiim and ij;ood behaviour in soldiers, who, under the (^omniander-in-eliiel 's aiilhorily, may be sent aliroad in commu- tation of punishment, or instead of beim; brouuht lo trial for otli'iices whnli they may have conunilled, his Ifoyalllii^liness is |ileasi'd to direct, that every siicli soldier who, at the expiralion ofji-rc;/ years, shall obtain bom the comniandiii'j ollicer of bis regiment a cerliticate of his haviiiij;- conducted hiinselt dnrni.; that period liki! a Ljood and lailhlul sohlier, shall be considered to have fully expiated Ins foinier otfenee, that he shall in every respect be placed on the same footini;- as the other soldiers of the regiment of the line to which he may be attached, and in bis claims tor pay and |ieiisioii he shall be allowed the benetit ot such seven years' service. This iiidiili;ence cannot, however, be exteiubd lo soldiers who h ive been sentenced by |,.;eneral courls-martial to serve abroad tor lite, or for a lunger perioil than seven years ; the sentences awarded on such occasions can only be remitted on an hiimblu representation lo Ills ALijesty, and by an express sij^iiiliculion of llie Koyal pleasure. C4 84] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [VV. Coast RETUH N of a Soldier of the Regiment of who is desirous to be per- mitted to tonirniite for Service abroad, without Limitation, the Punishment awarded by a Court- Mortial for the Offence herein specified. NA.ME. Age. Size. Date of Trial. Nature of Oflence. Punishment. ■s * < ■? > I ■£Ji ID a, •?-§ £ 3 « en Declaration of the Soldier. I do hereby declare that I am willing to serve, without limitation, in any ref;iment abroad to which I may be attached, if the punishment, or remainder of the ^junii^hnient (as the case may be), awarded me tor ' is remitted. Witnessed by signature of the Soldier. Medical Officer's Certificate. I do hereby certify that I have minutely examined of the regiment, and that be appears perfectly fit for service in any part of His Majesty's dominions. Signature of the Medical Officer. — No. 15. — HLTURN of the Average Number of Effective and Nok-Effective Force in each Year since 1815, stationed on the If tit Coast of yf/rica, with the Number of Officers and Men who Died, and of those who were Invalided, in each Year of the above period ; also, the Propor- tion of Blacks and Europeans. VK \U M E N. Average Klfectives. SICK includeil in llie foregoing Columns 1 MEN DIED. OFFICERS, Including SlalT. Europeans. Black,. H I £ 3 u ii J 1 t 3 u 1 C3 J ■< H a>3 i 5 ll CCS 11 :2 ■3 S 181(1 540 .'.38 1,078 r,r, 22 77 ' '5 17 132 45 a () 33 23 10 1817 ■24O 3!)4 (140 ■^,5 ') 34 (i2 18 80 32 ;) 5 1818 lO'i 3'iti 428 7 () 13 38 10 48 21 2 2 >8'i) 54 3!)i 44,5 * 4 6 5 12 17 18 1 (J 45 1820 — 418 418 .5 r> 2(j 2(i 23 5 1) 1811 — :m 3.-,;) — G ti — 9 9 2(i iSa — 47;) 473 — .-i s — 1.5 1.5 37 4 3 l8i;j — 1 <'3li V>j6 13 13 — 38 38 4' 10 8 1824 1 Nut 5lircirn'(J j J ill tin; Kftufiis.j 738 4« Not r specified 337 i spccifird 1 in the \ 9" ill the . Returns. . 323 140 .55 55 24 12 <4 8 111 iSiS 221 !(37 1,1,58 ' Ueturns. r,'^ 11 21 3-! 47 () '4 44 l(JO 1829 9' 548 '139 23 G •^4 30 28 5 7 18,30 9 3,;'i 33 20 1 ;t — (n) 42 Killed in action. .Vdjutaiit-Cieneral's ( )ffice,l 24 Ma y 1834 / ./«/ « Maca '(inuld, I \ilj.-Oc 1. 33 23 lO 45 H 111 44 I()0 8 ofAfVica] ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS, COLONIES. [»5 — No. IG. — RETURN showing thf Annual Avnrnge STREN.iTi. of the Black and White Troops on the lh:,tCoa,t of Africa, ami the l'ro|,ort ion of Sickness und Mortahty on the same Station for hp period connnencing iSi-j, and ending 1833, both inclusive. ^ ""^ YEAR. 1827 l8'28 l82<) i8,]o 1831 1832 1833' ANNUAL AVERAGE STRENGTH. niack. White. 749.25 .14.^5 7<>5.2,5 231.75 437. 114. 302.75 9- 328.5 1. 329.75 5-5 .■524.33 ('') TOTAL OF Sick Trfulfd. Black. While. 7f)0 754 310 218 279 387 1,042 875 29(i 27 4 3 25 ANNUAL PROPORTION OF I'l-alhs, Black. 47 lb" 13 5 21 8 7 Wliilt. 50 10 11 Treated to Strengtli. Black. White. 1.05 to 1 I3.01 to I 1 to 1. 01 4' 3,77 to 1 ' to 1.57 i2.5y to 1 1 to 1.388 3 toi I to 1.177 4 to 1 1 to 1.744! I to 1.85 " to I -3541 (a) Deaths to .Sircugtb. Black, White. 1 to 15.94 • toC.yi 1 1047.821 to 23.17 I 1037.46-1 toio.3(i 1 to ()0.55 _ to 15.()4 1 to 1 lt023.Ci25 _ 1 to 74.851 (a) • The- calculations for this year an- founded on the Returns for three-quarters of a vcar th^ Return lor the fourth (juarler not having been jet received. 'i"«u-icrs ot a year, the (d) The Returns for this period do not show the Ninnlii.p ni' U'l.;. t 1. ■ . ■ . Black, but the Number of ^Vhite Troops is klwn ^o lute bee); Sj IZ!" " ''""'"S^-hed from J. AT' G rigor, Director-General, Army Medical Department. — No. 17. — C (3 A S T OF A F R I C A. SUBSTANCE of a I?E1^()RT fro.n Cuptam Ihteler. R. E.. upon the Fort.s o.i the (ju/d toast, ih.ted Dowimijj-stieet, iSth December l82(). mfi^'r"" """■.'■'■«• |»<"^r statins that Cape Coast Castle is abot.t 000 miles to lecwird of At Cape Coast thr ramy .season is not of the same duration, nor so violent as at Sierra . ! J,l . ■•'"""' ''^* '"'"■• , llureis. eonse.|uei.tly, no cattle, and the European trooos tl.ere ^ ' '"' ''""^' "'""'"'''' '*>' "'^' ""'v "^'^ ''''ti**'' merchants who reside The fort isiepreseMtedn.be well capable of acconin.odalin.. -.iuo mPn, and of onnosin-r ... .. ^n..e 01 repair, and the expense of pl,K,„^ Accra in a state of defence wot.ld a.nounUo Theie aiv only two Hiilish Miercjianls icsidnijv ,,1 Accra ntl,c,n.ruducto,A til.. WITH reference to the correspondence which ha^. pa^.ed uin,n the s.ib-rrt . f o..ipens;:lion in lieti of pensions to the ■ EXiUACT 1" 26] APPENDIX TO RF.PORT FUO.M SELF-fT COMMlTTrE [VV. Coaa EXTI{ACTof a l)i:SPATCH frora Liciitcnnnt-Colouel L„m/et/ to Mr. Secretary //uj^issort, (lilted Sierra Leoiu', rJlli June iH-ik. IN compliance with the expressed wishes of His Majesty's Government (ag communicated to nie, iU various periods, during my lute administration of this Crovernmcnt, from the department over which you preside), that every practicable reduction shouhl be made in the establishments of tliis colony, and more particularly ni those, the expense of whidi is borne by the mother country, it became my duty to direct my liest iittention to the accomplish- ment of that most important object; and after having given the subject my fullest consi- deration, I have no hesitation in expressing; my ■ ninion, that tiie reductions, which I have now the honour to submit to your notice, may I carried into eftect, without detriment to the service, or to the interests of the colony. The first and most stnkins' reduction of expense, to which I would take the liberty of ratling your attention, is in f ne large annual sum paid to military pensioners, amounting to upwards of 7,4^0/. ; the whole of wliicli anioimt, I submit, might, after the lapse of two years, be annually saved to the public, by adopting, with regard to these pensioners, an arrangement sinidar to tliat entered into with the civil pensioners on the Gold Coast, in January last, vi,.. granting them two year>' jiension, in lieu of all future claims. The [lensioncrs themselves, would, I am convinced, reuilily agree to this arrangement. EXTRACT of a LETTEli tVoni the Secretary to tlie Treasury to tho Under Secretary of State, dated Treasury Chan)!)ers, (jfitli November iKjh. IN reply to your letters of the 1 ith and -jyth August last, on the subject of the military pensioners on the ("oast of Africa, I am coiiiinaiidcd by the Lords Commissioners of His Nlajesty's Treasury to transmit to you, lor the iiit'orinalinii of Secretary Sir George Murray, copy of their Lonisliips" .Minute of ihe Joth instant on that subject ; and I am to reipiest that volt will move him to triinsmit order* to the ollicers iniumniidiiig at Sierra Leone and on the Gambia, in conformity witli the vievis uliieli My Lords ha\e expressed in this Minute. l^XTHACT of the TUEASURY iYllNCTE. dated 20th Novomber iSiH. READ two Re|)orts of the Comptrollers of Armv Accounts, dated iltli September and iGlh October last, on letters from Mr. Slav, Lienlenant-Colonel Liiiiiley, and other Papers, relative to a proposal for yraiitiiisi- eiiiiipeiisution in lieu of pensinns to military pensioners on the West Coast of Afiica, and also to a statement from Major Findlav, respecting the distressed state of the discharged men of the id West India Hegiment tiiere located. On lull consideration of the jiroposal of Lieutenant-Colonel Lumley, to grant to the military pensioners oiitlie NV'est Coast of .\frica, a •.■nmpeiisatioii equal to two years' pension, on tlieir relin(|iiisliing all future riaiins to pension nv support from the British fiovernment. My Lords are of opinion tliat it would not be expedient to sanction it. It is to be presumed that the services of the several pensioners entitle them to tlie pensions which they at present enjoy, it is not therefore consistent witii )ustice to tempt them to give up their pensions on a pavnient so iiiade([iiate ;is that of two vears' amount ; nor do Mv Lords consider that it would be advisabli! to piiichasi' these peiisi 'os from tiie men even at a liiir valuation- The persons selling them would in all probability find themselves at nc distant period ill extreme distress, ami the ( iovcrnment would be reduced to the alternative of either makiuLT them some charitable allowance, or of inciirrinfr the odium and atlording the bad example ut leamig in iniserv, diiniig peace, those whii bad ) iiliifully served the country during war. My Lords, however, deem it most im(iortanl that every means should be resorted to, to prevent tlie substitution of new persons m the room of those entitled to pensions, and that a Hoard of Otiieers shouhl be assinibled, both at Sierra Leoiie and at hathiirst St. .Marv, on the fiambia, at each ot winch the piineipal medic.d and coininis-ariat otiieers shoulil hi members; and that an accurate description of these persons should be taken down by Ihe Hoard, and certilieates 'granted to tlieui in a new lonii. for the purpose of preventing any jiersoiis receiunt; iiensions who may not be entitled to them. My Lords are also of opinion, that it miirlit further condiue to prevent pensions being paid to parties who are not entitled, li, in eacli of the several >illai:es where the pensioners nre located, experieneeil noii-eoinmissioiied otiieers where employed to report to the siiperin- lendant the certilieates of pi'iisioners who mav die, immediately after their l,ii:lii .1 Diilv at llif SLilion. ;; ! i = c "5 it g, s- T w V ■7 »r U — U 2,-, ,Ian. i8i(i 4' ~'l 7 'i 17 1 — IS. 7 4l 31 «.) •7 1 — lKi8 1 1 Iti 4'! It. I — l«iq - •■' 1 > ■■!7 1 1 ,3 — lSi<) - it IS ■^7 14 .1 - 1 Si'.'to - 5 l» ;to 13 .t 1 .Ian. •Ml - 4 >!) ■ill iG a — iB.'W - .') !!( «!) II ' 3 ~ i«;l,i 4 ■,;i ■J 7 m 3 Ailjiilaiit-tieiier.iri. Oifiii',! ij Martli iH.ij. 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A.ves of sorts - Jiarrows ol sorts liedsteads, Iron, ditln Belts, Sword, Sea - Mlanket:-, of sorts, pairs itoxes. Coal, Iron Hoofs and Shoes, pairs Drooms, Hair - - . . Carbines of sorts - . . I Cast-iron (••inie.e« ' f '•'•'llVellinj^ ° Wood •; (i.irnson I [ Ship r. ( filled Cannon .; (^ eniptv f Musket Ball - > Carl.ine bit -3 C3 u Small Ar-.:. Di'to Cement, bushels Canteens, Wood (ilass, sipiarus Haversacks Iron and Stui.l, tons Kettles of sorts Lead, tons, cwt. Mo|)S Muskets of sorts i I'istol r .Musket lilank ('arl)iiie [ I'l-lol - Hall - Hille - Ordnance Guns Carronades Uowit/.ers I lirass t iron ■ f lirass \ Iron - I [ Mortars j I''''''- L Iron Palliasses Pikes - I'istol- - Powd, r,.f '" ""I" f F.(i ( L. (i Siiiiiiit's luwii. l(IWl), J0;5 — ' '210 ;j''9 470 204 7«o 750 1.430 788 82f) 4.41.") >I4 '7 22 ."^41 18 I 7 ;3« 139 3O0 43,5 ilriili^e ;i4 tl.lS () 3 143 1 7« 'toon lo(i ■-!» 8.71>7 3.3(>o 2,2f)8 480 120 .S7 1 12 43.0 21)0 40 U2 lot) ti;! 300 22 34H 32 184 3« 18 33 12 1 ,o(i4 140 I 20 ■-•74 24 (rvnt I Illicit) 34] APPENDIX TO REPOHT FROM SI-I.IXT COMMiriFF. Tnrtll. RiflpH of sorts - iShcll.s and Carci\ssc> r Hound Shot "i (/'asi; - I (iinpe >• Sheetii of sorts, |uiiis Shirts Shovels of sorts Spades of sorts Spriirs, ScriL'aiits Swords of bortH Table* of sons Tents 2„-)79 3<)8 294 32 Vdft Tir»n. 329 I ,Hao 11,798 3.4«!) ''74 1.141 tio «5 36 (h 4 493 (iraliam'K 'rnviM, «4 1 ID (ivJ 152 ] 374 Value of Stores at Simon's Town — Cape Town — riraham's Town £■ .0.843 X'.6i.()i8 Oflice of Ordiianct',1 10 Jnne 1H34. f l{. liiihain, Secieiary. Onham'a Town. Canadii] OiN MILITAIIY KSTABLISHMENTS, COLONIES. 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RETURN of thi< NiimbcM and Diitribution of tlio Kkfictivk I'.iHrr, Orncms, Non-Com- MissK.NKi) 0»Fi(Kiis, ond IUnk mid I'iLK, of the llritiiili Army, including Colonial Conm. in ctttli Year Hince 1815 ; including Artillery and Enginetr*. 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UJ ^ a ^ -JSP C J n ■- -3 :='/j L^ p tt" < ^ ■ X ^ S »<^ t/) »a ' ja ^ ■^ a 'J t i'a ^1 0.2.5. 5«] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE , [N.America; a: < (^ a z 2 O ^ ;-. Ho? .= a. S ^ -t ™ „ - Ui X. b «; 00 00 00 00 c -• - - - - 0)31 t^ i>. i>. r* 00 CO <») - - -. -. n V n u S 1 = 2 ■q I I I I 00 or • cc ;c (C to {Q '-^ ■ o o o o ,oi r^ 1 1 1 1 1 'O - >.-? 1 "i 1 1 1 . n (-3 -T ■:> c* — p- 5 I » c ITS w CT »:» 00 r- Ooo oo 0 CO — — MOO O 00 C* C« CI " '^ ei « (M ^t 00 00 00 n n 1 1 1 CO 00 *to to -o oSS c r^ I I I I I I 8 c • CO ( eo ■ c* - CT «» r^ M « « "• O M 00 00 c* CO " w h> .o ^ <0!C cd "* o 3 o o c< Of ct c* I I I I t I I t I I I I I I oe m 8 c o O cr •*■ •*• CO t« C) i^ *o ^ 72 - - I I ( I I I «*-00 "HO is H '.'^ m"3 •3 E CO I -f ^^■1 sr, O U 'V- lo (i ^ CO -■ U ^. Q s * u III L» &• 1. W >* « ' ' s « Hi ?; t/"; ,1- M U C — S -" 5 « - ^ ? 5 o t. S u: CO CO o (- u: « 0. Q < of u ■=■3 I' ; g-.s c< I Of 1 1 O us P4 8>$ I ^ -3 u. 2 S w r" < !/■- w D — I 1 a Mbl %> *** u ►O CO ^^ o [^f. America; a| ^1 irgdt To -<» S5i! i:i ~ 5w fM rtW ■• « 1 D - - >o ■ « Nova Scotia, &c.] ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS, COLONIES. KM o 1 1 O "5 o c CT >t ■* Clio ** " 10 1 1 1 ^ 2 o •*■ -*■ "O ft " ' 1 • s H = a ;». .-. (y I >». u r* 13 1 < « j= a. < t/) £. "-S CO n C — (4 Q M 1 W w a, M k." 8 u , V, U.< -3 « c« O c ' C/-J ^i? ^ 3 O ^ C^ ^ A ■J a J o I U5 O I I I I I I c: y. % in n U < — » o r-^— ^ c< ^ "c ii /'. ^' y, < CI c < St 000000 ^ COCOCOCD •- p-t ,t ft oodoo n n n n U5 ct c* 3 ^ tr 1 o "a I e: I I • I I I ■ I I I ( I I* I • I I I I I (D V U o I I I 2 " J7 _ d o e> n "^ n n m I I I o . g, °- CO ^O CI c^ ^ ?-5 Oi r* ^ CO ^ ^ •i =" I •a ' c o S 'a. S Q P _s o O /; 3 & a. to to o to cT cT c^ c^ (>..'■ >, ' S S V. ^ ,S o - 3 2 <" r'l ^ -c = -ii .£ I -S -J ■ S £ I I o u 09 00 ■♦ It Tt Tf 1 •* 01 C4 05 C4 00 CO I to O Oi 00 Ol - o to to r I I to c» to to c* o cri O 05 ft o o « < a. w a o -^ 6 I .o a CI to to w I . hi a a =; w > u w' i<^ o I 00 to H O > o I [N. America; c J4 ^ o m C - -J5 - To /■. •1 s 2 ? §■ ui 3 o n .2 [N. America; Nova Scotia, &c.] ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS, COLONIES. [5S « 00 Xi 00 « w r-. c* 00 O Ct T -f» H« fl « r< ** *^ 1 ^ e« o -^ !>• 00 n ■>* - •*■ c 1 1 t; ■* "t d 3 c CO o o 5 n r; CO to o to 1^ 1^ e ^ ts ^ c E o O 2 I .a ■S o-^ c s '.a (2 I O '■3 it o 2 "S i 2 c 1 s ■i o .a ^ S T3 > •< 3 (A « i5 lU < 0) 1 r^ t^M" CO -^ ■3) -^ ^ o> CO -" * 01 CO >o Ol ^ OJ Cl •-0 o t^ 1 en >o '- •* 00 CO !>■ 1 o> « ** ■t 00 CO E • o ■a 1 h a. !;; « c t- ;-> O CO CO * 2 2^ V ;; c 3 ■^l3 5 " j: <— *" *■ (J o ^ H r ,H I S F^5t -^w Mfl» -**• ■*• z. e* CI 00 ■* wl ■* "t o ■■.< "I- r-» O CO s n o m - 00 c» W 00 c ■ • c * * ■^ CO (O 00 to ^' ctw «* v-:i* p»T -«* ^ ,^ „ ^ „ - - OO 00 O CO CO o -»- o CO r^ - "TO **i '\. "- '3 "^l ^'i ^ <*■':*"" CO go" "f 1 1 CO o OO c c< Cl CO 1 1 CO o t •i- 1 MJ !>. CO CO - Ol c< 00 s CO CO >o 00 'O x: 1 • 1 t 1 f vti '73 i-l •tj H O H b4 O H O < H n a. ■« s< < X b] Ul u n q p 5 a 2 - a o « o U C O 15 oe X 2 1'. 3 >-) -^ « " s .3 .5 i ^ U m a 1 « 1 TS 1 e ■s =« cu • jC OO 00 o -o d Sf ■^ -f V , cl a « o U CO -■a >» 2 Si" 1 o u 3 .:i; s i &•£ ^ •^ < Q ^ - o >:4 56] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [N. America; J Si — No. '^().— BK RM U U A. BETURN of the Numbers and Distribution of the Effkctive I'ohci-., Officrrs, Non-commis- sioned Officers, and It ank and Tile, of the British Army, including Colonial Corps, in each Year since 1815; including Artillery and Engineers. *.^ I Officers Preiciit, or on Detached Duty at the Station. E 1 e 'ST a '5 H. n s i C 2 S s = 1 ii ill _4> 1 s a 25 Jan. iSlfi - 1 2 10 21 8 - I 1 - 3 7> 27 472 - 18.7 - 1 - 2 ! 11 3 - - - ~ 1 ■i(! 13 443 — 1818 - 1 1 2 () 5 - - i ~ 1 1 24 11 466 — 1819 - - 1 2 • 8 3 - _ 1 _ ] _ 1 23 u 467 — J Sao - 1 - 4 5 2 1 - 1 ' 1 - 20 17 .378 — i8»i - 1 1 3 7 > 1 1 1 j - - 20 18 337 — i8ja - - 1 4 4 1 4 - - - - - 17 9 303 — 1823 - - I 4 7 4 - - _ i _ - >7 (> 282 — 1834 - - 2 3 5 i 4 - - - - 1 15 C> 2fi<) — 1825 - - - Garrisoned by tlic Royal Marines. - - - — i8aG - 1 5 6 5; - - 1 I 32 11 537 — J 827 1 - - 2 4 4 - - 1 - 32 9 554 — 1828 - _ 1 8 8 3 1 « i » 2 29 8 Cr,G — 1829 - 1 1 7 10 3 1 1 1 a 35 11 631 - 1830 ' - 2 ' 7 11 5 1 1 1 1 3 35 13 (iyo I Jan. 1831 - 3 1 ' "5 '9 6 2 ' 3 1 2 1 3 C3 21 1,084 — 183.J - 1 ' 1 2 12 >7 9 1 i 2 2 1 I 3 6S 24 1,145 - 1833 ^ 1 — I 1 7 8 6 - : 1 I 1 - 9 33 >4 575 Adjutaiit-Cieiifrai's oniLi',"^^ 25 March 1834. J Jii/in Miiiilnmilil, Adjutant-General, e%.,jll Bermuda.] ON MILITARY KSTADLISHMENTS, COLONIES. [.57 r B c a s -a 3 .iico rs - i!-e <■ a feS h CO O'M --^ 1-^ s 1 < 1 Q s = D ^^ irH *- o o 1 an 1 u s^ p hi u o . •SI §1 tHJZ < *^ H M ;9 8 •J o a < o ►< £, s . 1 11 g ^ O O T^ s - .5 1 s ^il w to u 5 a 2 ,«, i.T g c S t =• « 1 > g t- -3.5 IS. V . -a «Mi rHi iOa nhf •w ■J «1 .« o r^ to •■ 1 00 to 1^ CO 1 " H 1 S' si n O •I- o 1 to 1^ 00 01 1^ ^ to 03 01 00 CO *o ■>«■ CO O) o« CO v> >o CO 1 -o t 1 1 to ■ J t t I OS * ■= -2 •• •*■ < "E - 3 i-J !^ = '. !^ K U UO V} — *« 00 1 t 1 1 g * r>*. . rHi «-f -ra -4» nw 1 1 "C n 1- ^ 'e ct !>. 1-* >j 1 i%i .' -2 5 5 *0 Vi o ^ * CI o> , cs < CO a vi to c« •o ci^ Cl' en -TTl^Tr*^ c* r-' — . 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CO u, o li! ci ? ao « to t.t c o /O 1 1 o " § 5 „ Kg. HO H § O J u '/I b: .7, S 3 1 < o H i s i 1 1 •g -0 2 S B it B 1 u 3 o c i 03 0) c s 1 § b r- ^ < «; '/; ?• ^ i^ H •-(• o.-\>. i !l APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [N. America; O 00 a - " u "^ - E " <£■ p J o S w » o " - a, cj^ - « M C9 ^ « =2 < a V. u K •« & c < I"! SI I :- 0< — n " \n\n otD o o ''i o ps ic — — -^ — r* CO I »*• to TW «Hi m CO o o> ta € _ a « "^ ■= ^ ■ I I I I IJI| o .= . S £ u .= = S i J to C^ CO I I « O CO to lO ") CO i i < > u u < 'a X c u s H « 3 t: . o a .: <♦• ~ Of o o •5 -o u o a ^=1 •« t-(0 I I I I »0 I CO CO'O I I O O — O 1^ t>. (M CO to o> 05 CO CC CO a 2 2 •3 -5 . O C 00 O Cite lO O O "O t3» fO mtC lOCOOCSCO'C^O-**- c ^ *> ^ M P« M to 2 " CO I I to to 13 I I I I I O ! to 'O I to I I I U I I I to to to C« I I >nO CT I I . o e 00 cj o.tc to - - ..- n •>♦■ CO lo mtO W^COOCJCO»0^^— o oo ^ 00 X * — • y ? b: -rt Si ^s « ""csi^ I I I I I I I- p f. I- ti £ 2 ,; « •*» < _c § ." ^^ "^ c^ coto £ r" -: 1? tc'tc u? ^'' p? c^'S" C ._rz= OO) ■*• toto 3 Of CO to to to r^r» r; to to ■O 1^ f» - CO CO eo - - K s - 1 tf 3 . ■= O J3 o Cft £; g -3 o ^ _ ill [N. America; tc to -«• '•WWM 1- « ro ■* 0>£> 1^ 3 Of « 10 to . "1 s 5 o ■SO Q I Bermuda.] ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS. COLONIES. [69 e > 09 r . I Q. ■ S S ii ■"3 4-1 fcS-gg SI = i^S ,"= 5 ■ s a o h|:i X. S -3-9 i§i .2t3 a< s M «< - a? '■ AM <♦• n* •»« ,-- 1 t o m M 1 ♦ o 1 n to 00 00 •^ o t^ o CO t^ o» ••• 00 l.-> >o to o „ ** *■ — g» 1^ ^ ■2 00 to 1^ a - t? 3) o> s ^ "■ -■ a I 1 I 1 • • I 1 1 • 1 . 1 1 ■ • 1 1 t 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ?>^ nH" n« #»f , , Q O o O en — " — M c< -ji 00 e« c* •• *■ tc O •♦ eo « , ■^ 1 1 00 I , 00 o o 1 o '^ "- 'O) c^. -r 1 o "* " -■ ■ • 1 1 1 1 1 I • 1 • ( 1 1 __ — • t ^- 1 1 2 ><- t 1 -i- to CD a> o >o ro + irt to i(- 00 >-•> '■•5 'O ** „ O) "- -" S" ^ c* c< 'I- '■"S rj o ^ -t- -*. -^ CO •♦■ O) CO •♦ 'O to r'* n tr: t •T 1 1 t x> 1 00 1 •t- • 1 « to --0 1 o o • -) „ '") _ o :» L-> ., -N ^' t -■ •* -" , — o P4 M ~^ •1- o a> o •t- rri c7) >.o "■C* o CD Ol to < -- b. fl ■< i~ < a a. ■/) H o » b. ^ '"'• * »• U O « .J o 2 ■< ■< a , _ S - s S ' * " ^ I ? « ? O S 5; ;j C O Co] APPENDIX TO KKPORT FROM SKLTX'T rOMMlTTRK [I-. Possessions; i ! IV. -Eastern Posstssions . — No. 4. 1 59 37 .') 5 .5 4 9 445 121 0,169 — 1817 1 5 i) 4(i 7.'. ' 49 4 ."i 5 5 9 44J 123 G,i03 ,G7 — 1818 ■' 4 6 44 85 48 4 5 .5 4 9 .394 122 5,943 • 58 — «8i9 I 7 9 58 H4 34 4 4 3 4 20 G54 182 8.219 191(") — i8io - 5 (i 4> (JG !19 4 5 5 3 G 42.5 118 3.330 207 — 1821 - fi 7 46 G8 40 G (> G 4 C 3G3 I3G G,G79 >97 — i8uti - 7 t> .•55 :>5 '^9 :> 5 4 5 4 3;i3 "3 0,387 ao8 — 1823 - 5 (■) 27 40 Hi 1 2 3 3 4 270 85 5i493 154 — 1S24 - - 7 3.5 4" *.■; 2 2 3 3 4 2(i3 80 5.19O 145 — J82.5 - n - 4 G .37 40 21 4 3 4 4 2 281 73 4.990 219 — 1837 - 7 4 41 60 '7 5 5 4 3 C 308 83 5.20.--, 2G1 — 1828 - 7 4 3!} G4 20 4 5 4 3 7 31H 83 5.3.51 289 ~ l8jy - 8 5 45 G3 30 4 5 5 4 6 304 82 5.5«7 271 — 1830 - 7 C 41 Ci 30 4 5 5 .•5 G ;i"5 80 5.4fii aGi — 1831 - 7 7 43 60 '■"■>! 5 5 5 ») 7 30G R. .'j.4f'5 a5« 1 Jan. 1832 - 7 41 57 I "5 4 5, 5 4 G 304 81 ."-..HjC 253 - 1833 - 7 1 3a Ca a6 4 5! .S 4 G ■^77 81 4,822 146 If. It. — Ceylon Light Dragoons, and Gun and I'ioncer Lascars, arc included in the above nunilH.rK, but which arc not borne on the Army L^itiniates. (') Including u force detached from Ilcngal. AdjutantGcncrnl'g Oflice,! 25 March 1834. J Jiihn Macdotuilil, Adjutant'Gcncrnl. Cryloii.J ON MILITARY F.STAHLISUMRNTS. COLONIES. [61 3 •Ji •c X » "' "E^ O « - ej J f- ir rt V. 2 :z u f< 1 55 «-3 o <=? O ■5 ■« Gl u ■z t '/T O hi 9 u v. 1 u ii ;? -1^ £ ^ o o-s J 2h < ■O 0^ >• m j3 &. M o U 2 S -J i'. OS ^ OJ g ^J) '« 3 Q 1 '.-3 f la i "?!! 1 ■^S C * 11 ^ ■i^ sl a a B .a O .a OD o „ ■' :: ■S i:-3 •- 2 £ "^ •« «• a'! to •-5 S ^ S •--* S o « 5 g'c I t UJ ujj: 6CJ. Sj >,ll^2 "2 ,5 S) = SjS to c 3 -2 = ? f>' >. ; i", I;; i"J ;J i^ss 5 •? -a 35 a 3 <• ts J 3 5 -2 . ■' ■- V '■-0 * = ^ -5, = 3 J J 0'< in ^ t B •Si-:, O Ij ti X -Z m H w H if; o Oi < s o o in M O <»< - I to « O 00 lO i>. •+ — (X) CI Ci I * ?1 !■* ^ O ■a '■n — I — nr I 00 'O 'O S CO I, I' I- h* r* r^ I 1-* ^» 5< 'O Ci'O »- to '-O CO •t C) ?^ CI r^ 'C 00 'jj 00 00 CO *o 1^ r:i •«}■ c^ *o CI « M — ct f^ I III Oi I ov 5i wi • ♦ • • § u. ... 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Possesions; X a w I ^4 I' ^ 1^ 00 O is < H Q < u ?! B I-) O o o -3 < < J - 7 H ■5_j *t ":: J2 a -J S 3 •* ^ M <0 00 o r; oo — •t — « >:» I I I I o I > I I I I O I I I I I I 1 I O 1^ r- il^ CI iM >o I lO « N > = .? f 3 a CO TT -rs '-3 M we* Sf c s .= =) C> R ^ a s - •* O _i a. o he C C O CI - I ' I ■ I'll •■5 i la I = ' = ■c ^ J J) J JJ ^ b U O 3 o o. 3 a. -3 S ■a K I o SH 01 CO I o I I O I ?• 00 "O M 1 00 . 00 c. (4) CO CO 00 I n lo t I I I I = I I 00 I I 00 I I I I I I I I I I • III* • •■II • I I I I i - a " il X. 3 - J _ _ -al "i £ ,» »£* H I I .vj I -0 I I I I I I I O l»l-» '-5 Ci et o !?, i2'^ J! 2, 2 9. 9.=5_ o 00 00 •m o i^ eoo ^ . ^il ■a I I . o I I I I I I I I I I t I I I I I CO I 1 I t I I I ' ' ' I I • I I I I I O 1^ »» •-- J, T, ,,-) I ,.-. ^^ ,, tl - ' i? " •=> -•' C"^ 3> ■«■ ♦ M « •«• ?i i. H O ci - 2 « I ? 8 I I I < I 2 J I I ' I I ■♦ I I n I 1 to LI o ei ^ I I 'A o »l I 01 H 2: u S H o < E >5 o H ce u (A M a rt rt r! ct r .-: .T -^ rt rt ,-« - e. a. o. &. i. a. a c c s. a. a. S • til H a a p _. o ■ ^ I • I t I I 1 1 I I 1 ^" J I'^J'^.- "^ i'=-;'=i^ . o — = C H ::! O ,^ !»♦•♦#•♦» ' • c:< E. *; «-» s s <4 c: 1 -a r; k. 3 ^ 1 •i "3 I' >. >> • cs n • S S •• IK 2 » 2 3-5Q E - ?f^ ov. Colo Dec. y.o , a?ig 't 1 CO 1 »* ? 8 ♦ - T3 "O 1 1 J . ^ !:■ ir. 1 1 • 1 1 n 1 1 to I.T O 1 1 ■ 1 1 O •■! -* 1- 1 • 2 S •■ a. 2 is Oylon.] ON MILITARY LSTAhUSllMllNTS, COUtMLS [63 = 1 1 .'j ■ i5 I r* CI « lO — o « i-oo -r i-o 00 to r< r: >T CI * n ' '5- -lil-i "> "> '""2: 2 !" K" SSt C< '^ ^ w >. >^ • • 1 1 a. a. S 2i . , tX) « c H :^ oj o"-. 1 1 r 1. •o to •M F* »- M C« I I t I I • I I till I I I I I t i t I I ■ I ( • I I • I - o v to^ •J) & ^K U 3 C) f U '-' ^ la J it U. 5 u. -3 _; .i,-^ _; o D.- " —I ; ;j 1 C I I— ' c I .a 1 "^ rt ' ^ O O _2; ' j^ = 2 ^ := 5 £] '»; T3 "O J. ' 1 I 1%. 1 3,^%"^ U '/iC'w CI a J-,. a = o S o -s ;£ "^ C L. V IJ 3 i. 4 w rt rt « JS i «- -o 4j "O .Si^^ cj ^ § i s S »' ^ 5 «fl te^gt ate £^^ l^e '^^ -16 J! « c^ -y; W'/i U •/"-■ X u V3 ;j «3 - ^ G4] .\I'1'1:ndIX to report from select COMMHTEE [E. PoMcsnioni; Hi M < s w X c ^ '^- 5%- S S-.-i o r2l<»* < •J o o U o 1 "2 - = < s " ■5 • * -=i It! -2 05 13 I I I ' I I in ti ~i-r V v_ c* w O ( I I I I I I I I I I I t" "* i"* '~^ * **■ ' ' eo r- « 00 t^ 1-00 t^ S - r- i u> ,-• a .— 00 w s ■ 5 £• 5 r's-S^ S' S" ' i? §■ c ?• S' ii d.i. Q-C^wQ- — a. "3 "a •'a "a ^'S'a'a n I C J - i >• 1 to > - X ' - -- "* - - '^ «3 »-'> 1^ r^ 1-^ « *^ ti '" -* c< w i^'I^= o "5 -J = c a. ? 0-: "- 1-1 c c a. a. CC K g o q 3 u r u) tfc 5 ^ •-C B - J, 1/ = sees ;=. a. c 1^ eg « a n d s .2i O U UwUJ — S rt = -J - 2 ^;2" If?^ 2 'v> f1 fo ■a «• j,» S § y. Mi '^ y Xj o b u: c O H 3 o 2 2 B 2 I I I ■ • • lilt I ~ I ~ I ft « I 'n 10 (3) I I t I I I (O I (O I I <0 O^Xi O CO « CO e* 01 04 O > >•■ >« g. g. 1 3 u< U4 u« to • « • CO crs 10 00 iD o I • I I I I I • I • I I •as - c . tf 5 i > S '41 .0* '^ «^ to c « J. i' a i3 !t3 3 CO 3 S - -5 =.^ a. -5 ^"^ J £ 3 .*i3 *^ ."s O Jl A w « 1, -^ •< -^ < F '^ 2 i ? 5- H O c: - « £ oTSy K. PoAscsRioni ; 1 00 d Irt ^ •* ■* "8 n a CO to «r •A I 1 1 t 1 • 1 1 1 m f 1 A Cl 'O M a> I n S ?o o w •V • 1 t I • I I . -^"^ . 1 S'S M 1 i 3 O ID _ S c 3 f 6« = la ^ = a 3 s^l Vi Se3 rt "-as rj m •a ■J = B 2 < ^ ^-^ ^ti?- s q'.iW 3'-' a ".!;-« ^ o = ^. 3 r^ S -O 3 J S- •^U Ceylon.] ON MILITARY ESTAHLISHMENTS, COLONIES. [flfi (0 1 1 1 r^ 1 1 1 ^, ?> nrr. 1 o » l-- •r ■* 1 1 1 • 1 o • 1 «» < Sf 1 1 •< 1 _ 1 1 n ^1 s. Sf • ■ • fit! J . . . U 6^ ' • • H <5 re » " w |j 6 ■{■ 5i ' y >^ -''5 .a 9. /^ : J O ■M m j2 C> I w> I I >A ton I- CO c« c< <0 X o C K 9 ^-- I- ^ rt . . a. ^ 5 rt - -3 O XI 1 CJ D = j «< .a s 3 if S *t". « « '■• .2 o = " 5 2 - o < - >,-:^ *-• I- Q 01 a E (O I I v><0 o o 00 n to 31 •" I 8P ^ W)W0O I (O •> I 1, . XX X X Irooto 000 «>o* A n <7i ^00 *o ^ oj « CO d t- X l;tO, *•• 10 |i 'O 10 X cf CO E o ^ G X to 3 2 3 5 2:/. c o . ^■^ S ."2 - S S. a. o < xl H < >«l < < , < _2 ass ft 2« V3 i OSS 00 66] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [E. Possessions ; u: < rt -r « o 5 I Z O p O Cj ,= CO *i 4>* TS o ^ -^3 03 § J3 n C VJ tb fc- ;j c< u. o H .3 y. 0'. u w ^ c i^< c w ^ CT o * ■+ 00 >o w o in S Si So •E ^ ■+ 1^ Is. t^(0 o •+ to CO n - 1 «o 1 to >o — — — — — •^ *-• r4 X •) O vrt O (£ 00 00 -1 o CltO (T. "♦■ rt rt - «(0 'J- - IJ := < — — O rt « IH ■rj ^ « cc «^ -t •s - ■ - c » s :< •a r=^ o «S U n S) c a: .-' i . o « to to OOtO to Ci to « •+ r-. 00 « oD r>. r» o t^io 00 o - I C5 CO 1^ "l- CO 00 - 00 •<*• «to to o 00 o ^ ^ r* rm XTj n 00 * n c* io n n « n ^ CI (N « 00 •* c> c» 1 03 CO CT oo '■£ CI CI « o C5 1? "^ r» £1- - t^ - rt r^ r* r>. - n to 00 CO - -a 00 o -« t^ CO c« « vooT^co'*fo to co^ oto C5 ^ ^ 1-4 2 (/I t«i 'O 00 >0 C) 1 1 c» 1 1 o o t 1 o CI 1 ^1- 1 o CI 1 to - >OCO - e» lOtO 1 1 1 1 to I 1 1 T= tC 00 o O r^ « CI Ci t^ >o OCiO- ■^ 1 1 • C« (O 1 1 •* - 1 1 1 1 n 1 C« C« « 00 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 o 'A y. 2 2 > 5 t: 3 .a " •£ W 3 ■" y < '*" ^ c* O "^ ItO'OtOtOO I tOOIII |tO V) t>. t'* !>. I^ 1^ VO I'* 1^ O I I W^ CI c^ ■ -f >!■ CO •*■ Tt-O CO CI CO ■♦• »< CO " to .3 -3 C c s| s 3 . i . 2§ (c tj O— . Lr a. a cs a. I g s o — 2 c is S c dj S^c tu L^ n w -I - S 2 3 Fi 2 i U -ZI" — c — o a a] w w C C 01 CJ •- CU 3 •- -^ lilt 2 2 ^ 2 3 3 2 i c; ■3 t.2 •2 ill 2 •- § 3-1. I , tt'S l-»0'0 ■ C4 n CO -^ «t* ei <|- p< ^ '■I -f i/^ O Ceylon.] ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMFNTS, COLONICS. [67 1 to 00 CO - CI ■3 t I 10 I- eoCT.o M t- ■* I^ Oi t^ 00 - TjCO CO 1- cooo oo o>- a> in 1 1 1 c< lO CO e» 1 to -< CO !>• O) t^-*- 1^ e< 00 COOO CO - to C< -1 '.0 IC 0-0 '•0 ■) CO o> C) CO CO CO cT to to CO to r^to C) C< ".0 oto rN 00 1.0 10 UO c* — — I- lO'O C« " •» 05 to l>. 00 " 1^ ;ni» CO Cl CO > ci cT O>C0(O 1.000 »o CO uo CO C< 01 -00 * iTtV^Oi-* •* CO - CO - 1 1 1 to r» CO - - a» to ? c< 1 -r>. -• >0 CO 1 - to so 00 C< - CI - 1 1 F 1^ into - ~ •<»• O) to coto to 1.0 UO lO CiOO ■+ >0 w -< Ci 0> r. CO - C< CI lOOO 10 c< * 1 1 c* 0, e».co 1 CO CO t 1 t I 1 ■ 1 Ci • 1 1 1^ CO to 00 CI « CI '■ r. C« CO !>. 1^1.0 1 to 100 - - CO Ci I^ >*• ■■ *2 CO ■* o* 1.0 "J- CO'O to to - Ci **• C* CI CI 10 C) t;tto . . , !-*• c«'0 "^ .. d - •^ CO 1 :r> Tfto •* "h Tl- 00 r* — 1 . , . CI 00 I eoo C5 1.0 I- C) C5 1 * ■* CO CO * c< - ■TiCi't , , , r^ to 1 - C» ei 1.0 c< c» CI - - " -'■£ c» * c< - c ♦ 10 30 oc to - 1.0 ?> - e» 00 z " '''°° . 1 1 >-0 O) 0)» t coo 00 1.0 CO " 1 1 1000 UTO •* >.0 1.0 to 00 ~ 1 . 1 . 00 1 - 1 1 1 1 1 C< 1 1 - 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 . 1 . 1 to -o 1 1 to 1 to 1 to 1 to to to CO 1 1 to 1-00 1 1 1 to . , . I^C< 1 1.-5 c< 10 CI >.■> tt i-o e« CI c» t^ ct 10 CI c< 1.0 « 1.0 c< * 1 • «♦• * CO CO F. CO - 1.0 " CO CO - I'. « 1^ to CO - t 100 >0 1.0 to or^ - 1 1 * 1- 1 f * ■ 1 t I 1 « • ■ 1 t 1 1 " 1 1 1 t 1 t t > • 1 t ors1 • tains) - tenants tenant) ^> ' ' "^j B '•5 ■ ' S ' to E .= E- - ' 9. a o ui i.|S -3 COO <^ ^ ^ a - - n o d bo « a E S:^: 000 P S i^ c 2 'r ? ? = -S sr- t^cjb 3 ." >J-l yj f. J n 9 rt r3 ^ ^ O C ^ < «»■ n on 5 I > ' 3J o.J.I ,(■ 10 10 1^ in ■ T I- '"1» I- I 1 i — coo ■ * ..- o I I I 0-0 I- r>i- ?5 CI CO •a c E o s 01 a. aj lo c* c» l-« 1.0 CO 3 '1 -; 4 ■M r 68] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SEU'CT COMMITTl'F, [R. P 4j.; 3^- g S g. o ta j; 4) u o 3 — la S S >^ o N 0) *^ .2 -^ m .3 « a 1^ 2.1 = -j 5 u tT ■2 = .- u 1. ^ 23 J= a; I. •5 S' ill o ii rt ■O ,12 2 2I3S: u- a. * o «> . "--^ i! ° — := c iu c a 2 3 E * M £-2 '/J Qj * 3 *-i - :a s ~* -^ " 2^ S 9.2 a j: ■5 ■•^ c « § -^ - .£ — ?! ?' S ■ -^ -!• * i U-s ^ea 3 ' -i' 12 a 5 §- •■' 3 ii -r. ■ .:d ^ ' = o — — ~ - S g.S - c OJ i_ M u c sf — ossessums; - 9 -a >,-a to .S S a^ o - =. ^ 2 :; 2 Ci --^ — •£•=•5 ■■> ^ o C to i -J i = . -— ^5 -^ "C r 5 J3 js ■; 5 « * Ji o £ ^ 60 a. S " J! o o = !■ •<: = nZ CJ cue «u:::j. 'Hi&.c: jz V Z i^ be ^ ^, Qi ^ e-a . S ^ k- fc< rt .'* 7". .-* i23k§j:-32«oC'g g§«''2==<_~2->:'' I 2 S 5 Sj-S = « o 3 'o .s ■= o o * ■-** o .4; 5 -2 o o 5 •£■^5 2 OJ § = ^.a, 5 £ § a. U n > 01 ■ 3 bO e ii Ii Ml a U o 0) CO 3 a • - i4 01 S St B Q , s . 4' I I I. I d ■•s .2 F- = •^ ^O cl .- « ii r_ c»-, 3^" •3 r: u 3i 0.0 I « I a 21 o c O ■" ;« T3 C h rt S t. o ,2 O -a o j: »'. o -1 ri u a^3 '•a."5-:i — * O ill « » "5.5 c V ^ « -s ,- s 41 ^ _ S 4) ,•£.2 ^ i-3 't— !a u a •^ o 3 u > ^ >— < aj fc- cj 1> Ceylon.] OV MILITARY HSTAnMSIIMKNTS, rOI.ONIRS. I«!t 2i C IS o u-" got; . *:5 > J5 " a ° " 4) (0 ™ is C P3 ** j^t 0* — "S jC3 -2 .2 S -n -A I c c • - o Ji £3 e _ a 3 3 = •ass s|s.§. 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Possessions; e M ^ (- >5 ^ f- J o § H ^ ■= 5 i; o '^ . ''' E -- S.= 'E E E '- " ^ " u O n .2 ■ = •=.= Mao i^ . .t; ^ '^ o — O JC •5 "O S " « S.S-- S I £ S = . '-•3 •- o ^ £ 0^ .o M .■= r i -J £ <- •- .^ ? " js ■; ^ JT5 < c i' a-? a = u _' "■ -3 ' wi en r , ^C3 ,-5 .T3 01 Q y iJ >» >» c V s ■- •;: .t; = • I S'SS is -o X) S <" rt „ i'O o = - 2 . 'Z.S'- c O ^ fc- C <-..= = « a. o "1 a. i: o * , O „ .» « J! - E -g p- "2 fV. a V ^ = o a c "? ," CJ "^ KO E o O to c o g* ■s S i §B Ml a •i ■*■ sj . < ■a ' » '^ t« U, -^S 1 o w >J r-. o •T^ Q >r a c o 1 Q i 5 i a a Si " o -3 .9. ^ i e-t «i C/l 3B --0 c .s.s -^ 'C t a o U u o ° EJS b G C a = ±; c/: ol •5 ^ r* ^ ■? 5 J-e- §•1 t2 'i I .9 a c C .5 E .5 u 15v •a (i.3 1^3 1 B g I o I/! o C I I I o I ■3 I" E 5 ;^ !-S^ 2i W « 'Sou « Hi; t- -= ~ t- ii 3 £ S S .O .£ •£ ^ • - j: * ^ fl S -J ^ q -a r< 3 f.5 S II g ■a |3 § ^ I .2 —'2 T3 •S-g Ml S C u -O 5 .a " 5 2 CO. 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Okpichis (in miaition to tlirir \',xy) ,a llio umlrniuMitmno.l l-omijn !Mution.« m'.-ni.ling l„ ilu> piVMM.I 1 sMblislimnit. .li^lin^-insliiii}; tli..so al Hliiol. a Colonial Comnnilud Allowaiuv i« nai.l i,,' INIonn , aiul tlio»o ul whicli. «itli ilio cxivplioi, of l.o.lging. aod Illack Scrvatils' Money, the m.nio mc issiii'il in Kind It \ l.iont.f-iiu'r.il loniniandinj; tlu' liini's . . . ' Majoi-m'ni'ial, ditto - ditto Miijor-f;iMi(ial on llio stall' - Aidc-dr (Min|i^i'a|ilaiiO Assistant niilitatv-M'cii'taiv U'apt.l Dopnty adjiu.inl i;ciu'r.il iiiiil-i-nl. Dt'jiuly (|iiailirnia«lii-(,'iiii'ial (lii'iil.-coloiii'h . . . l)i'|uily assistant adjutant -miii'iid (raptaiii"" - ' - Deputy assistant (piarti'iiiiastrr- m'lU'ial (captaiii) - . . Major of brigade vi'a|itahO - l>i'puty loininissarv-m'ni'ial Assistant i'oninii>sa >-j;i'iU'i'al Depoly assistant i-oniiiii.s.-ai v Jji'ii. Inspcctorjjincial ol'liospilal.i Deputy ins|uitor .litlo Stall'-surj^i'oM - . . . Assistant staH'snijji'on Apotiu-rary .... Di'mily piirvoyor ol' hospitals Ordiiaiui'-ston ki< (ur Dipiity iirdiiaiHc-viori'ki'i'pi'i liariai'k-inastrr v«ith pav of l.i;*. pi'r (lav) - (liaplaiii to till' forces lloyal I'lifjlncers: I.ieutennnl-eolonel comniunding - Major ..... ("aptain - - - . . Sulialtirn ..... Olliccrs (il'tlio liiival Artillery and lleflinuiits of iIh' Line : Colonel eoinniaiidini; ... I.ieut.-eolonel ditto' . I ieiit. -colonel .... Major comiuandin^ Major ..... Captain ..... I.ii iiteiiant - - - . laisij-n ..... Pnyniastcr ..... Surgeon ..... Adintiint ..... Uii.iiterinnsliT - . . . As.>l»taiit-fnigeon ... NAMi; OK Til i; SIA riuN. WliiTi' it ('•HiuDiilnl Alliiwniiii CKYLON, £. ... ,1 8;j ij - 'i48 8 - i.)H H - .'.:; Hi - : - '.'"V.l - •JS- H - MAliltniDS. £. .». rf. •J;)8 - ■.•:(8 - li »...;,8 - - • 'J.'iS - _ •J.j8 - - ■i-AH - _ '4,1 ,'■. ,1 ;! r.:fi i^ (' '4.1 ■as 4l'> «;)» 4l'l 41(1 447 "■» ,78.-, 4 if.) - -.'. I J I'i;, I J •J I o - 142 8 II') - 1 .-lO - 48.5 fi - 417 14 - •417 14 - ;)H - - 17^< 10 - 107 (| - 81 5) - 17H II) _ 178 lO - i;|i 14 - 107 <) _ 114 8 - llrMAnk> : ytiunti..x. ~Thf olliitTnmiinimiliiii; (he fnrci^ draws t'n- Orti. , rs nn ilic sl.ill >ln.>» 1... .1,/. in ad.l , 1,, thi-ir nii.L „i ,M,n|m..i is ffl.llili-tl. .lA.MAlCA. V\hni., williilit. rKccpliiin of I.iMl«iiin anil lliiiik SiT%niiH' Moiivv, thi\v Hrc issimmI id KiiuI. ('njii' III (iiiud ||n|ir, 1111)1 h^ l)r|i-. ■J-'+ ".) r, i.'i- It - H)«) J 7 "!) 7 I iHi I.) ;t '•J.'. '7' 301 It) ;.ti i(i (i ;)oi 1(1 (i ■i,)l Ki (i f 117 II i; l^»''i87 11 (i 'M *> li ti (i (>3 1:1 34 1;) 7 5 181 1 4 '^4 1 li "44 ' •, H ' K.I t •» 187 II 187 II I*'!) '' III]) (i ii:i " 7!) 7 • (io 8 7l» 7 tio 8 •j8 11 '47 I" li 8 ■21 8 '47 10 III J • ■' I ■j8 1 1 S J 47 H) 1" i 4> 7 4l 41 7 4 1 ■2i 8 -J 4 24.1 ;i l!)(i i(i '•'4.'i .'t 1|)8 l/i ;| 10 8 lu H 8 J. iiicj 4 10 i • •' i.yi II ■J 1 1 'i.'i I'l ■i Jl (I,-, 1(1 II 1 0() 4 I.-..' II • ";) J ■ III) -1 tij i(i line- allimniurs «l»'ilicr hr lie a luiilciiuiil ni^iiiu'iitiil rank. illiijiir-nentiul. , • i.iM !.• iiM-ii MiiiK tiri'Miii|iiti i'i\i nmnKiitai laiiK. I' .(,im.i.. .1 111 Md.liiinii In ,h,>, il„. „ili, . r roniiii.iinliiiK I'le liiree. nc-ivr, an Hliownn, ,. „| tiihlr-iiiniicy <,l l.ir,? / -i 1. nil,/ ....riii .i/H ,./ („v«, /;,,,, 111,, nil,, -T luinniaiidiiii. llic luic.s iiilmliii, |(.,. I., MTniiiHii ,„■ (ll,,,, |„„. d.i( » iinl .lia« ln,lKiii..-iiin,„ llii .111,111; .l,iil 1.1, .1 I'lallHll III «hl< I. In,. ,K iill,m,.,L „,,. ,,. ,,.,.. .;i ; ni i.i.i '" "• loi till .,i,,iii; »^ naliHii III «tiii h, tii,.| ,K nil, „»,.,!, nnnnini,,,;. 1,, :ii ,' 1 a . „lni„ I III ll,.. .miiv. .11- ■ .i„.„. 1, „„..,. |,„. .,n ,.x\uk lmr«n iis mi ■ nil,, . r of olitllillic,. c.irp, Ul ll,..l .mtlnn. ( lli, cts ntll,,. rnyal iil^iiien, al llin fa, („.,., 11.,,... ami ll,„l,.„i,„ ilrasv nnillii |- liiil imr ll^li -Ih, kind, but ii-f.ui- i-.u :ili,uv:mi-,i i„ I,,.,, ti,,m t|,r !,rllii:iii,.-". Jmniiira and lUih,ul,n.~\i\ t. (if,/, \wc wcfk llir .•acli iillir.r'i vvll... ;, t. Jiroiisiniij. |{,,ii,,i„ „r |,i„M.inii^ Ul,, alvi (.rnnliMl lo llic ivn.s and liiinih, » , nlllr,T> al ll,is, slath.nj I., < ii,,l„,i,:i|lv llii, lunliii'.' llVllI HI ■li tnonrli ( liild f.ii Janiiiiia) are alln«i.,| in li,.,i ni ■ii; ■.illi-eri III II.iiIihiIiih; Inn ai llin iiiiiiiIi,.| nl i,,^ ,| ... , 1'-. 'I 1 iniii'cl slali imiil III till. 1 xpciiMMlliilii llll^ Inad call he iieiiln. I ..-l-ili,,. ,i| Ilieall.i«aiii,.s nl tin; m.mihI ..Un. , M„;„k«| «ii|, an usteiiAf, am ilinse m «lni li it 11 r hI.ihI tli, v «.,nld l„. nitiiu-il. linl .iMiut any nthi..,, „| tl.osc tanks Hie IniiK.- till ll.u e.lalilibhiiieu t;iniii,ii ti.r t<.|ii(mnsuii ' ll ii,|mnil 1,1 be innniitcd till uf the aiiiiy al ilinse slalioiis, lliey are so iiiscHid In ttiiiii i*u F-. PoMMCHsiong ; ANCKS isfllinlllc to I'ori'igii Matioiio, wiini-i' is iiaid in isKiiiHl ill kiiul. ihc rKccplioll ul* St'rvHHii' Monrv, MCll III Kiriil. IIAIillVDOS. £. 1. d. H' ;; 4 • if^4 I'i 3 ■Hr, .1 ,) 1|,8 Ki ;, i(>a 4 10 ' '' i.Vi 1 1 - 'i.', I'' .1 ■'l.VJ " - iti'J 4 111 I-,.' II - I":) J 7 l"!l •' 7 •'.■> "> c, II ninjnr-nenoiul. ■ III 41/ |HTIUIII. Imlgih^-Miiini'v^ Btiiiiir nlliri r nl liii'l niir liclil Ml >\M''I III lull III iiIm'I III HUM I ml tllrV »Mlllll III' liiscruil III liiiiii Cryldii.T ON MIIITAUY I'STAm.ISIlMKNTS. COLONIES. [73 - No. .'J.J. SCHEDULE ahiiwing llio Savinci liy tlic HrniiOTKiN in llii' r.Klalilii-liiiiuiit, (.'ly/uii l.iglit Di'ogounH. M|i'MII|IA>UUM: — Total oftlic fixed ciitabiiitinirnt Add, I'oiniiiuiid nlldnunCL' (if i> ('ii|ilaiii ns nt prcsciit drnivii, I wliii i is lint iMcliidcil in llii> 'I'diui ortlic I'.nlaliliHlinuMt -j Men on tlic Ktii'iigtii oCtlic Ci;)li)ii IlilU: rigiimni : I Serjeant ... •2 CorpdriilK . . - 17 I'rivutun ... I Furrier .... I SaildliT . - . . 34 (irasscntlerH - . . I llursekeeiier fur llie ncrjeuiit at /;) 1' |)rr ilnv /J i ■ - •/• l - >/ l(i/;j per month 18/ - Savin<; Saving in liorses' rations Saving in clolliiiig Saving fur straw, clmrcual, and lildcti Saving from liorses ... Or jL. ^. 1/. i. 1. (/. 'H Id .1 III 4 - '14 '4 ;) " 1 ■1 1 4 i; 4 4 ■'r, 1 1(1 - t'J 10 - - 18 - 31 8 - • • - luj (i ;i •■> to - 3 .1 4 I 2 -J II •7 1 33 «i r, 1 £. i;3') 18 8 1 £. I,f'i4,1. 41. til/, pir AiiiiUM In luKlilion to their \niy in tlio Ceylon ItiHe regiment. I'. Amtruthir, l>e|'Uty Secretary. O.'. r 711 Ai'ri'.MUx K) ur.Pdi!!' inoM sr,i,i;( r coMMirrKF. [ r.. PotgcsMons ; -- No. -M: — Sir, Aiulii Ofliof, Soiiicrsel Plucc, i July 1834. IN (■(mi|)liuiire willi ilic ilt'sire of Mr. St'crcliiry Sprint; Hi<'t', coniiminicntetl to this Hiiiinl l)v vimr li'llcr of iiilli Jiiiit' List, I am dircotiiil by the I'imiinissimierM lor Auiiiting till' Public Accimntu ' > iic<|Uiunt you that tlicv liavo cauML-d a Stuti-nient to he prt'pared IVoui the latest liiturus rcccivi'il at iho Audit OHicf tVoui the (iovcrmni'iit of Ceylon (which is licrcwith trausmilti'ih, showiiit; tlic aiuiuiut paid in the year lH;j'i hy the colony or out of the colonial icvcnucs to the otlictiis uf the uarrison of l.'eylon, not being on the start', spe- I'lfvnie how much was paid to each oUiccr, uccordini; to his rank. i am dirt'cled at the same lime to transmit the particulars of a payment of r^lt. r,s. made ill the year l8;j> to the ordnance storekeeper at t'eylon ; which payment not h«viii 7 u Coylon.] ON MILITARY ESTAnMSllMKNTS, COLONIF-S. \ir, d. 8 d. ■Id \i ~. II. M. ,",Hi II Ki.uiMKN I : ^ Colonel M. CliHord Mujor I'". VV. I'Vitli -.-..... ^ Captain VV. I'iiclirace -.--...- — W. SiidluT — Tlioiniis (Iriiii) -.--.... • — J- lislirr .--.-.... , ,,, I Isliuid iillciwaiici' - . - . i'. id", \.Civil salary UN sitlini^ iiiai;i.ilmtt', Kamiy l;i,") — (i. Collins ........ Liout. A. IVvfihoudt --...... • — .1. H. Mann — 1). {{olx'ilson, (Voin I Dcccinlicr lHi)i In ;• July lH|i — c. iiii(ij/c : '. . — (i. Ilar(ly -----.... — T. lioliHon -- ....... • — T. Lillie — A V\'ut«on , Island allowance . . - . i'. 7,', \l •^ I n .1 Additional allowance as coinnnindinL: iinsiLin 1,. Kotlif' , ,. ,, ,. " " woikiMi;- parly, Inan 1 !\lay to ;}•> Scp- l ti,'inl)i;r l8;j2 11" '- — n. I'aiiiKH' -.--..... — \{. H. Ilorton - A. (Voni u April to \y\ Novcnilior lH;)j Assistant Suri;fon W. 'I'oiilniin, froiii 1 Dec. iSji lo ., .Itdy lH;(2 — W. J. Hunt, from ti July to .jn Nov. lH;>i Paymaster R. Fusion -------- (il SI IIkijimi.nt ; iMajor J. VV(dfc, runiinaiidinsj ------- I5rt!V('t Major (,'. Cliarlcton ------- For fiirtlicr allowancu to tins olli(a'r,.si'c Annrd I.ascoryii Corps Captain M'l.cnd ---.--... ^ ^ C. I'carson -.-...-. 1/ — (1. I'.okf — C.Walln — U. Arinsliong ...--... Lieut. F. J. llcpliiiin -....--. — ('. 1". Joins, (roni I Dccciiihi'r |H;[| lo ?i) j'ltnuaiy |K;('j — I''. Irvint; -..-...-- y' — J.W. I)al;;fty — Il.diosti'r ....-.-.. — J. (J. l'liilli|.^ A . — J. 11. Nicars IMlsi^ll \V. Ward -.-. — l'. Hudson, from ! Di'iiiuljcr iHji to ;ji Octoljur i8;(' - Adjutant I". Dailoiv .--...-. (Jnartermasti'r W. Chirkc ------- .Surgeon Charlts St. .loliii ..--... Assistant SurL^foii M. Al'Dcrmot -....- Paymaster A. Toole ----..-. 7H rn IJp.c.iMi'.NT : y/ Coloiu'l M. I.iiidsav - -. ^ Major II. .\. Doii^iias -------- Captam A. O'Kecli; -------- j/ — T. lorlius — T. II. Ilcmmans, from 1 Dici'iulitr lS;ji lo ;(i .May l8;;'2 ^ — v.. M'l'lmrsoii -■ '- — 11. Ilolyoakc — T. Taylor - Lieut. W. Hca'les -- G. .Mitcli.ll r Island allowaiu'i" - . - £•!)!) - .., 11 I. I I'ay as assistant enciiu'cr, Fionrcr — VV . Hamilton ■■ ., i» 1 ,_, , I'orps, iroin 1 i)(<'L'inl)c'r lN;jl to ' 31 Aiii.;iisl \X\yi - - 11)3 •! \\. M-At|.uic - - [ Island allow;\ii((( ... i^-<19 - — C. M'Intyre . Fay as assmtaut m^iiierr, Pioiiffr corps - >;t7 A -. ....'5. k 2 t. ». (io; ifi ■JH7 K Mi,-, 1: !''.'> 1 -' I'i.", l-i 111,-, M 30') \1 I'i.'i li (»!) - m - r,\) 111) i 3 loli 4 - 7.'. 12 - 7."> 12 - \a H - !•!> - - 133 1 1 S «!) lo :\i (io !» H lli.j I'2 - 3«.''> 4 2K7 8 it..5 1'2 Ki.r, \-i Ifi.'i I'i Hi,-, 13 Hi.-, 12 m - •^4 i.T !)!) - f»<) - III) - !)l) - HI) - 7> 12 <") 1) 8 !)!) - •210 - 111.-, r. Ill 17 ir, 287 8 1'i.-. 12 Hi.-, J 82 lli I'i.-, 1 2 l(i,-> 12 lli,-, 12 !)!) - !(!) - 202 W (continued) 76] Al'FODlX TO RKT'OIIT FROM SI.LKCT COMMI'lTtvli [IL I'owewt.on.; jHlli lUi;iiiiiiit — cuiiluiuat. Lieut. Tlioiims \\ inj^atc ----...- — ,1. Sliu'lds, linm () June to ;jo Novi'iubcr lH;5'2 luisigti J. Shields, trum l Decemlier iK^l to H June 1832 - — \V. Alvui't'M ........ — F SiMi!h Vv. Fisher -- /.(Ijntnr' '. Hi 'I ---.-.... yuaiteiiuaNter VV. Ounn .---... Surgeon D. lleiiderHon, I'rom 1 Dceeniber iS;ti to 2<) February 1834 <)7TII IllUJlMENT : Colonel ('. Ilauidtuu ..-.-..- Major T. Hall ^ llievet Major N. I.. Darruh •.----. Captain .1. Itudden - .---.-. — VV. Snow, tiuni 1 December 1831 to f) .lune 1832 — O. HutehiMin -...-... — F. C. Hallow, from 1 December 1831 to 31 Aui;ust iH;j2 ^ — \V. .1. Slaiiiiiis -------- ^ — C. Kelsmi, limn m .Iiiiu' lo ;|o Novciulier iH;j.! I. lent. C. Kelson, lioni 1 Deieniber lH3i to i) June 1832 - — A. farniielKul -.----.. — .), N'iueenl ---...--. — J. M'Caskdl — C. Na-el — A. I'. Mnr^.ni .----.-. — W. Morns. I'ldni 111 .lime (o ;[() Novenil)er lH3> I'.nsign W. Morris, (Voui 1 December 1831 to <) June 1H32 — J. U. Laniert f Island allowance - - - ^.7.0 li 'r li II . Additional allowance as connnundini; — I. H. Hunt' , ... . M , I woikint; |iartv, troni I .May to 31) I Septendiir \tiwi - . - - 'jo 12 • — M. E. I.. Burrows ..-.-.. I'avniastcr F. Aldrick ........ Adjutant D. Mackintosh ....... Quartermaster J. Slealir --.--.. Surfieon \V. Austin ..-..-.. Assistant Surgeon , I. A Topliani .-.--. CkYMiN I'.lll.K Ul.l.lMKNT : V Colonel II. F. .Muli.r v' Lieut.-colunel C. A. Mac.disler ...--- — S. llircham ? Major T. Fletcher --------- >/ Cujitain T. 15. Ciascoyne --...-- ^ — S. llrav broke — 11. Smith, Brevet .Major, from 1 Dec. lH;(i to 13 , Ian. 183-2 ^ — !{, Law - - ■ — A. Montiesor - • ...... ^ — fi. A. Tranchi II .--...- — ,■') 12 - 124 4 - 1 '•,'■) 12 - 7« ':» 2} 61 M) fi !»9 - - m - - m - - <)!) - - !*'J - - 47 - « 3!) 1:1 9i 7o I'i - loO 4 ir, 12 - iii.'i 12 - 122 8 - «t!) - - 210 - — 150 — — Go 7 lO — ;}«,-. 4 - 3H.'5 4 - 2H7 8 - it'o 12 - i(i-, 12 - 33 M) 10 I'i.-. 12 - Ki-, 12 - Ki.'i 12 - 287 8 - 7aG 2 8i ifi,5 12 - ii>.0 Ki.-, Iti.-, 1 'i.'j 1(1,0 9!) 12 12 12 12 12 12 128 12 - 99 - 99 - 230 Ceylon. ON MIIIT.MtV VSTAIM.ISllM I', NTS, COLONIES. [77 9i 2} li 9i 104 8i (.'eyloii Rifle Hoi^iniciit — rtmliiiiied. y/ Stnior Liiiit. W. Diiljfi-.^' - (•IhIiiiiiI iillowmicp - - *.09 . .. .. I AddiliiniiiliilldWiiircasroniiimnd- — K. .\lyliiiM, injr working party, I'nun 1 i^ep- l triiil>or iH;ii to^o Sept. i83'i 70 ( ImIhikI ullowiiiicc - - !). Hniylirodkc ------ H. IC. I.ayani, from i Dcrcnilxr iH;)) to l,r, April lH:j2 H. Jiirirkoii. CroiM I'i April lo ;io November iH;j2 I l " _ {;. 11. Ko.idy — J. .1. Dwyer ------- — J. UiirlciL;!! ------- — M. .loncs -------- _ I". It. Nasli 1'. .\. Moms, Inuii I D.cciiilior iX.H U> 15 April lH;j2 S. N. Ituiriss ------- I,, (laic, tnaii 14 January to ;jo November lH:c2 - _ P.. I',. I.ay.iid, (iimi lli A|iril lo ;{() Novendjer |H;}2 _ U . Percv, tiniii ..-, to ',jo November iH^i Seroiid l,ie\it. .1. I'- i leld P. Ilol-ate ' _ P. It, Pavlev _ \V. IPiidiMv ('. T. Null .^liaubin/ie - - - - - _ li. I.isi. _ W. I)k kscin _ II. >iiuili - _ W. Jones _ J.H(vli-er _- W.M. M' Donald VV. C. !lnd<4soM. iVoni I I January to ;(ii Noviiubcr iX;] A. Joliiistt.iie. ti-iii J.^ May to ;io November l«;i.- W. J. Knk, IViim r, to ;!'> November lH;ji , „ , , I Island allowance - - £■ I'i.j 12 Paymaster J. Houstead ^ |,„.,,,.,^,,,| ,,,,,.. iu ,- s. per diem 73 4 Adjutant U. Jellerson, I'mm 1 |)e, ember lH;ii to l.O April \^;yi - v. A. Morris, tr.im Hi April to 30 November lH:jj (,»uartermaster J. lilack -------- Sureeou W. II. Yoniij: Assistant Surgeon \V. Lucas ------- ^ — (i. Hiindvy ------ Ckvi.on LiuiiT lJu.\(;uv.N Colil's: £. ». d. m - - 178 ,, - 230 !»;) !»;» !)!» .:-y k3 7»] APPF.NDIX TO KKPORT FROM SF.Lr.CT COMMITTEE [E. I'owMion.; PlONKEE CoHPt : The Colonial I If.. '"*y ''''*"'"^ *" "''' "'^"^^ "'' *•"• •""■r» will be found returnc.l under the Captain A. Brown, ^. E. conlman(^ill^ Lieut. \V. Ilrtinilton, 7Hth roginieiit . - C. M'lntyre _ . . - O. Rogers, R. A. - - T. Myliiis. C, R. R. - - J. Stewart - - • . - G. M. Parsons - - . . - I'iJ. per diem. atji.Gd. li Audit Oftice, Somerset Place,"! July 1834. / Olho W. HumUion. In»|)ector. It t! \} \ i SUPPLEMENTARY STATEMENT; shown^ the Part.c.lars of a Payment made to an Othcer o» the Ordnance De,mrtment at L\,lon. durmg the Year 183. ; not include.l i„ he Statement of Pay and Allowances issued to OUicors of the Staff and of the Ordnance Departments m that Colony, transmitted to John Lefevre, Es,,. in Mr. Mallet's Utter ot JU April 1834. T, Dawson, Esq., Ordnance Storekeeper, contingent ^..^,v..„ .,».,., v./ru.iance storekeeper, contingent allowance, beins fori uddU.onal pay, ut ,o,v. Ud. per d.en., from 2:, May to 30 November .Sj/} £. J. d. Audit Oflice, Somerset Place •) July .834. 7 Otho IV. Hamilton, Inspector. N. 8. W\.lc», kc] ON MI1.ITAUY ESTAULISUMKNTS, COLONIES. 179 II — No. as. — NEW SOUTH WALES, VAN DIEMEN'8 LAND, he. li^rUEN of the Numbers and Di»tribu»ion of tlie Eiuctite Fohci, OiriciBS, Nom-comiiii- iic .1 ii >»ric«Ri, and Rank and Fili, of the Dritiih Army, including Colonial Corpi, in each \ it MTi' ■■ lBi5i including Artillery and Enginuvri. - Officer! !■ c«iil, or e "m a. n nn Dviu hril DulT at thi; Slaiion 2 3 ■JT* 1 Eli E •: 1 c ".a ' 1 i i 1 i. 1 1 3 i. ^ It j 5 1 i i .a ■0 ii 35 Jan. )8l6 - •i !i 13 c I 1 . 40 >!) 57a — 1817 - 1 9 18 4 I 1 2 44 •t) 684 — 1818 - t 10 >4 11 1 1 a 30 II .j(.8 — 1819 - •2 9 «y 9 1 1 a 37 la 768 — 1820 - t 9 «7 7 I 1 a 4« 13 7aa — i8'it - 1 10 21 8 1 1 1 50 13 1 ,002 — l8'i3 - ■i •!( 7 1 1 a 50 1(1 1,023 — i8i3 - ■i / la C, 1 1 t 4C i.'j 096 — i8i4 - 4 14 18 12 a 1 ,, 3 "7 . " a a a Co 22 i,aoo — iS'.'Ci ;j 18 :8 7 3 1 2 2 3 75 30 >.5fi9 — iK.!7 , - 4 21 37 7 3 2 a - 3 100 30 i,7G0 — iba8 - 4 22 40 13 3 » 3 3 3 128 42 '.974 — \9i'j - 2 (i a6 4.' '7 i 3 3 :t 5 >43 3S 2.397 — 1830 - ' a 5 af) •Xi 111 2 3 3 a 4 1'4 33 2,047 I .Ian • 1831 - 3 / 30 40 ^7 3 3 3 3 (> 140 42 2,568 — 183a - 3 31 34 27 3 3 3 3 6 13a 35 3,410 — 1833 - 3 i 4 23 31 •J 2 3 ;i ' 3 1 r> 114 i ^' 2,107 Ill Adjutant Gencrnl's Oflici',"| 25 March 1834. J Julin .Will tliiihiLI. .\iljiil,inlClinti;il. l'.^' k4 8o] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [E. Possessions ; Q .a 5 i CO 6 5i o tp a 2-5 z < T -■ > -a a X w. « < «-5 r/1 a c u o -« f 2 ^ o-S K o * h* U) U .£ O (/J .i^ is u w c. Jr. < ■< in X D O s u Si i^ s. X I-" >^ CI "Z . o :-5o IE 3 S " . .2 E •: 8 3^~ • = : "n -3 t' v i Tz ^ n '' ^ K " ^ - £ (J* O .5 .- ■■-a. — -;-5 4; 's-| |o.2 *- s s vw ^ h53 3 " a. .S2 2 n w es ■< a u i'. b '^ .: t QO 00 2 e a: - ■= "H •« •? ^ 3 ■J =.%■-' 73 - I III H I'. o r^ 5 ■z ^ < O J a. •a CI c^ ri CO c* ■:'_ "J- •'f ^ I; I I »5 — 1^ — 1-. « r» I I I I I o c I I (O 00 OlQO Oi t^ Q B il _ - O. U — — -: E "Xi '-5 ll 3"= k.-, ^ M^ MM ^ s . o ,^ "«» CO I - - I • I I I- 1^ "% >."> ?,= = §' s a w w iM e* ;S •,; w 1 ^r !i !o o 11 a: »3 c ^ o oo 15 e o >, Oh to = -S *« ^ n t =^ 9 •S" •I ''' 2 •? *- 5 O t C -J ^- ■= - - -J c • = ^ I 5 -s y ■ n S -= -3 '' = 'O M * S i5 £ ? £ ^7 •id J" s U) c W"^ » 00 » to 3 tS O 1^ to CO o do 1 3 < o 1^ 1 c u 00 00 to to •«• '»■ c* M ,. ■*" o J) ^ C O n •^ n 1 1 -^ o r< n 3> e< 1 v} i n 35 ■i6 N. S. Wales, &c.] ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS, COLONIES. — C i ".2 « ■*• CO c-i o !r5 . 00 - !» . e» -. .- — C^ 6*3 , " . o »: « « 3 - d _ n 2 t3 ,11 '"J?t;i S si ill S£-= c E . 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X is ffi a f- >■ X F t; '^- y E E ^ UU U] a. ./ •. %• jj §1 = «^-? . •S e £ " o 2 c oo O B w « •<*■ I » o ^ o O I >-•) n e .a c lU Qi to •?• a> > IT G. o C © ^ E t; = S E T^ '.' 'JS '^^S "u (i. « -i- 3 — —1-3 to to I I- 1- I C-? O O — — r3 u I • g ^ eg - o! ^* — c E o ■ L; -< >. 3 ..'. -id r 82] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [E. Possessions; H -I 5 n 00 ■< a Q •5 b l>s •€ » i; I ■=■ 2 o ^ 3" < ■B I o s s E ;^ u < ;<- a: s £ *- < •J C J - < « ^, >• ><5 ■c - VI r^ 1'. K- hi z ^ M is J^ H -. /; u r^ o \ x -J 03 n 00 C<5 00 u o o U « ts a - 3 2 j2 2 oo •:. V k u 2 ■-■a = a », a w " = • c« a 4) *- ,r a. *•. u. r^ I •> . a •5-s-a, -|* . "o y— a o .- -»* -Wo< ■'i'S'3 H "-00 £ »,fc a =-S3 S 1 o.i.3 <-5 2* ft-Q So I I 1 * o n 3.S-S . a'" 5 ^ *i •■ ' 4, k. u »4« ^^f -** « 1 tc ^ •* ^ J 1 ) - CO • c» % o o I I I •* o n — w r^ I I I O % s "J ■5 — « si /"• I B a o u t/i ^ s fe S S s = ? a -I M •Ei to "is C5 10 00 00 2> 00 <«» 3 § , es • ci: >» B §; , is V3 « 1 ^i ^:; ' E 5 i-^ 1 u » i:^. Possessions ; o.i-a „ =•" •S I „ ^|§ i ^6° '^f -4^ tc Z •* 1 c< % (Ti -*f 1^^ 1 C5 - . ? ■^ 1 00 (O s, 00 m (O to n i^ ^ ■^ to o t- - % 8^ 00 J- ' >»i o c Q. I 3 .33 •J ' E ^ :i'- o , H ti a; " H N.S. Wales, Sic] C)N MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS, COLON'lES. is -. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I III! I I I I > I- r^ I II- o n r^ o o ** o I- 1- - - ^1 d — •■1 - I t I ■■n >n •fXI "I- I I *c I ci '"i 'o O t^ ^ — Til f 1^ o c - Ct CI 't- to 1% I- I- ..♦-•Jl- O - l» l> §> I t: t t 1(1 **■ CI •I- ' r? ^.0 •+ .-' — 1 ^ 53 M to n ■* I t 1 — O^i") O 1 ■♦ to 03 » III s III CI *.• I- a • • • I I III I III I ill • III I III I III I III CO to to I |» !>. 1^ O I I I n « to i^ j? Sr f i~ I, CO f o >n - „ „ - I.T - to -o O 1 II I i» r^ t^ O O |0 ifl n "Ti '^ I- ?) *♦■ 00 I- !>. TS ■♦• o >o - „ „ - ul - 1 to 1 1 1 n !>. F-' o — . n - M CI to to 1 1 1 1^ !■• '.- >-T O r» K n - SO 1- a>- to to 'O to ■J 'O t:D "1 to >.-, 1^ >t u h. "^ t frx X E 'O _ ^ . i - 1- c. < w is a s M ,— •— , < — . 1 , , , 1 ■^^ ' q ' ;^. o < ■•- % O S E ryi O C M .2 S '^ li ; } O ' '^ a; >. * rrt M _ < . e J £ *H) i»i I I .*•. « 3e ^ ^ V I I o c cu I u z. ^ _ P c "3 3 i:; cT s- "^ a 3 a 1-; - « r< e er>5 < t ■h H as '■ .' ;:> 6 ea u 2 if. 5) Li >.g « n (83 (1 J 1 i I o "3 r- :; 2 -c < I. to X 11 Ki ¥ S4] APPL-NDIX TO HEl'ORT (•ROM SKI,i;CT COMMITTEK [N. S. Wales, &c. 5 o i Cm i ■"■ -" ■n O I 1 I I i^ i^ o »o o »o vj Ji) "2 " "* * !'! 3 ^ ■\3 .5 3 *(1 5 d^ f/: "* ^ ..a 3 S 3 5 ^ 5! -f > « e :/: < ■"c3 a ;^. ■>. < c 3 f/: 1; '^ ■a , 0-3 •« . '^ ^ j i I 3 1 > 1 -5 O I I I ■^ I-" o •-> o •»* f oc rj »f ^ 3 -c •i. fl O >-0 '"> ") .00 « - T •♦■ "^ "» 00 o >o >o I 00 I I I •t O I t I I « ■ I 'C 1 I 1 1 1 ?■> t^ '-'^ •* 1 1 '~"?5 T' ■n tj 1 1 1 1 1 r- t» „' 1 1 1 1- r* — r3 -r "^ I I S r- i w s a a" '/J c3 ■ -. f3 5 a — — — - 1 1 I %_ Si ■ 1 * t 1 ■ 1 ca u H O H C3 -^ -*.«(» it ..^- •+ mco -. c< 00 . •" - IM f 1 CO « CI X c .?2,=?^"- - 3 . ^ p oci n - ^ a 3 oj 5 10 3H2 ,114 4'93 308 l«l8 I :i s ■i') .'id 23 1 3 3 3 9 19" 7» 2,8|() 217 lSi(, 1 T 20 44 >'» 3 3 3 1 103 73 2,408 230 , 1820 2 2 2 '2 30 20 a 3 3 3 4 123 82 >.!)i4 23C \Hi\ _ Tt 4 26 4'i 2J .-5 3 4 4 3 130 82 ».135 218 ._ 1823 •« 1 3 20 32 18 4 3 3 4 3 117 71 2,027 110 90 i8'M « 1 ti 18 27 20 4 4 4 4 4 101 43 3,139 1824 _ ! 3 ,5 17 22 23 6 4 4 a 5 106 42 2,015 195 2;j8 \H-ir, _ ' 3 ,T 24 34 20 4 4 4 4 5 133 54 2,40') i8'2fi 1 ^ ' 'i 3 21 2t) 6 6 3 4 4 5 134 30 l,tl25 228 18:7 181K ^ T 1 l(i 28 18 .'! 3 2 - ti l2;j 40 i.7«5 220 •w 4 3 22 37 14 4 3 5 i '^ 13» 45 2,087 21)0 iS'iij ^ 4 4 22 32 18 4 3 4 f> I 4 120 47 3,193 214 i8:!u „ '■■, S 34 40 >7 6 3 .5 3 b K'O 55 2.854 234 1 .<:in lH;il ^ 3 3 a.l 3-i »7 4 3 5 3 4 149 5+ 2,474 224 l8:)2 ^ 1 1 3 23 >8 i,-; 2 3 3 1 .I 101) 40 l.7-'5 194 — 1833 - ' ^ 5 33 4" 18 4 i 5 5 4 () '3ti ; 47 2,180 No. ;j8. , HONDURAS. UF.Tl'RN of the Numbers and Distrihiiiion of the F.FtF.cnvE Foiue, OrFicrns. Non-oommis- sioNKD OfKiCEnf, and IUnk and 1 ir.r,, of the British .Vrmy, indmlmg Colonial Corps, in each Year since 1815; including Artillery and Knginecrs. OlKicrs ■'rc^prit, ( r ou Dcittclii'il Dulj at the Siulion • ui — - 3 Z a 3 CI c 'a* 3 a. 3 § s 1 in s 3 5 s c *JfJ ■7 L' a 3 ■3 ti a i8ifi 3 ■h6 7. (J a w b! < ara '/. <« C/) a a ■; Jan. 1 G 1 _ _ _ _ 1 1.5 c 296 18.7 1818 _ _ _ 1 7 - - - - - 1 21 4 339 .. mm ■ . a () 1 - - - - 1 »3 4 yoi _ iHi') _ . 1 G _ - - - I 20 4 289 I 8jo _ 1 3 1 - - - - - 10 t) 201 _ 1821 _ 1 - 5 1 - - - - - 10 G '97 — 1S23 182) - - - 2 1 4 3 1 — — ■• — _, 10 12 6 5 188 184 — 1824 l82r, - _ .. I 2 4 2 3 — . _ ~ _ 10 12 5 184 182 , l82(J ^ _ 4 3 2 - - - - 1 22 5 34'' _ 1827 _ ^ 2 1 3 - - - - 2 18 8 337 iSiS • 1 2 3 - - - - - 22 8 292 l82>) _ - 2 2 - ... - - ) 14 8 280 18 iU 1831 V 2 r^ I _ - - - 1 14 8 2fi5 1 Jan. _ - 3 II - - - .- i '5 8 3 28G .■\djiitant-(. ^ Lj 1- I Q r> ^11 o. i"S 00 -5 = «: 1 -f* u « o- rfi • ,* •< 2h "-s 9 X c u q Mi a, 3 X - -a 1-1 » ^ < .5 « H ^ .: -J c:. i- O o c 1^ «j t^ o :7) 3 3 O f 5 > ^ .5 i I ■0- TS , 1 1 ••" .« V sn X c S .= 3 t : » <* 1 1 , ao 00 ^ C « ■! - » J J VI '•1 c< ,^ ^ »< « o t^ t>. h-oo « I 00 I - O) "*• z Ol o o a. a. 1^ 'C I I IT CO CO c» I ♦ - f^ - - O I f^ I- >-.rj t> a. « s ?; *: "i ■3 .S .^ ;:: " •• a. 11 a " ^" CO e e 3 X o (=5 3 "* ? ^ C-t tf O a. E »- 3 ! ■3 w r o ix [West Indies ; a. « r ■a 3 CO •** n OJ 1 1 lO • • t • ? - o CI o CO CO CI ■■ 1 '■O 1 "^ =;|i2 Jamaica & llondunM ON MILITARY HSTABLISHMEN IS. COLONIES. ■2« 6 -0-? " 5; Uv» •c j: - i" o ^ ; J O o 1 1 ■<■ * ro ^ ^ — ^ « n i(^ n O O — .4 — -* If) o CI c< o c* ^ •2-3?? C5 raw lOl l-O |(0 'O t O) 11-1 «^1"1C« !•* t^co- 1^5"^ t till o mnn • < 1 1 O O CO ^ - ■*ft m "5 -t ■1 ^■SS' •♦• * o CO coxi It — 1 1 o =& 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ^ 1 1 1 I I ' 'O-n-.i CO '.1 . o — ^ "« - 1 [87 ■I i ;9 J3 it I ■; 8S1 APPKNniX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE fWcst Indic'ii; ei < w n n • a. o n o CO K - .2 I 1 o - a ' s ia i o _ ^ "3 J3 ( "3 a ' ^ A sT r- S- -a .2 ^^ TO inclu Pav §1 -.T i2 e_ •^ , cs i •= -o ■>; -^ => g •i ►J = .9 («- ;s.l^ ^ ' 1 1 V r-*) =~ -^iJ c^'^aa. " t* = i ^' = s< = 3 ■;; S o =i a -^ > o. P ^■■^^ f^ -1 Cj ^ Si *- ^ •I' = n CO :.* Z a 5 J I n in o <7> O W >n O O « 00 00 v> CO O) ot^-^ o "" o o m.i3^ 3a _ '^■^.•'•'•■srjo ~ _c - _:^ ^ l; u 4 •s o S ' z-3 I iQ n n a a a -2 = i.5 = .5 = ^' s • 1 t 1 '«> ' - ■5i ^f "i OS fc= •^ La c a u E < 1 ii :; = c -i s L-5 i ga-r- ri VVcat Indic'ii; U n i1 4a SR H i^ ._^ , O « ) ifi M 1- i-i IH •-, ■ n -^ CTi 2 r ^ 112 cr >r '' •■"J t f z — £< = ■ «; ... ca n a Jamaica 8t Honduras.] ON MILITAllY tSTAULlSUMF.NTS, COLONIES. l 31 1 o « 03 « 1 1 1 00 a 1 1 ifl 00 r» e» to — « CO « 1 1 1 1 1 !0 1 1 • n < ( O 1 o 1 1 1 n m t>. 1 1 1 ei M 00 >o !>. M CO J , o 1^ n I- <0 51 1 1 00 t 1 1 1 1 - « "t , , 1 00 1 !0 t- O - 1 • 1^ *0 oo O) lO o> FH C< »- 1 1 % • • • • 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 • • 1 • 1 t 1 1 1 1 i • ■ 1 t 1 1 1 1 • t 1 1 1 1 1 1 ' • 1 1 1 « 1 1 1 t I 3; 1 t 1 I t 1 1 to - o 1 00 'X) o> 1 1 »o o a o !>• »C O) CI 1 o o in ^ 00 o •I- CO MOO 5 e< c< .0 o C) CO o ct cT 1 1 O o 1 1 1 1 1 1 o ■*(0 "^ t>. v."5 1 1 1 1 o « to n C4 00 « •3) 3) 3) CO o m 1 t . , . ■ • It 1 I M Mf -+♦ *» -*f s cs ^ " 1 1 00 S9 Ol «o 1 00 CO to "■ ..« 9) Ol ei •o to M 1^ O) 00 *»« 1^ i>. to >o c« •*■ CO M H O H b o H o H oS t.) < i ^ a. <*« < Q a O .-^ e H ■ri 1 O g 1 1 ' u Ui is J 2 S u H H - — -o H e Q H t- H O o IC •< 1 1 V— --^ -- > 1 < 1 ) 1 in s o .J r- tu S %. Z ' ' < o < 2 2 s o , .^ .4 o ^ t- E , 2 ° ^ < o S ■r o U u fe h. •-^ » r ? c 2 bl) c-f r S u >» 3 o c 3 -2 a, a i ■■J Q < Q H <»; ■Al- in fi.l .)o] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE rWe«t Iiulie» ; — No. 40. — WINDWARD AND LKRWAUD ISLANDS. RETURN of llic Niimbors nml Dintrilmtion of the r.FKKcrivi'. FoncK, Ofkicf.ks, Non-commis- (loNKU Ot'Fii F.ris, and Rask uiiil I'ilk, nftlii' lUitish Aiiuy, including Colonial Corps, in each Year since i8i;, ; including Artillery and Engineers. OfficiTJ Pffsciit. (iron Uet »cheo _ 1820 - 3 8 31 57 44 4 •'- 7 (1 7 221 12C 4,490 _ 1821 - 7 8 .3fi 59 43 5 7 7 7 ■:22 134 4-341 19J2 - 7 8 31 4.'> 37 6 7 C ' 5 1 yf) 121 3,810 — 1823 - 7 8 ,'!,'•) 45 4' r> 6 7 _ / 7 "94 73 4.'. 34 _ 1 8i4 - 7 10 48 Co 41 7 9 9 9 8 23 • 95 4,877 — 182,-, - .'t II 4.5 ^^3 H 6 9 7 (i 8 277 106 4,9«« — iHid 1 4 11 58 62 30 7 7 8 8 13 328 no 4,286 _ 1 8.-7 6 48 fii 37 8 8 6 9 10 27>. (JO 4,58a _ 1 8. '8 - 7 10 49 65 '■'9 5 7 7 7 II 272 yo 4.485 — 1 829 . 9 8 58 64 29 ,"•) 7 8 7 10 266 P6 4,57 « — 1830 ~ 7 8 38 59 38 8 9 . ^ ) 7 10 2R1 • 89 1 4,906 1 Jan. 1831 6 9 44 58 "9 9 6 8 r> 9 274 «7 4,(J20 — 183s - 7 9 44 62 21 9 6 8 1 8 9 280 85 4,508 — 1833 9 7 43 58 35 8 5 8 , 7 1 9 274 83 i 4,303 Adjutant -Gfneral'd Office,! 25 March 1S34. J Jokn Mmdvnalfl, Adjutant General. W. and L. Islands.] ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMRNTS. COLONICS. [9: o Q < ■J tn Q 15 is u M a ?. Q a e s o o ■a i en 8 B B o O S fTi 2<. •a O (A CO w D H -I a < u S O a. o 1 ■= H ■« >- ^■i-ssiJ" -3 JT a-U S CO t^y. a |||i M)! 3.;. .a ooi«b8oo 2 «. 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S UJ 3 1) ■-J o so = ^53 -ill [5 ■3 :z = O. .' ni z a a O it -3 < •3 a a u bo V -2. < 2 lUUMJi i mui i m!.jjtu..imM i . i ' :MA kO^ '^^^^ v^, IMAGE EVA1.UATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) // /!> 4 v.. 1.0 I.I 1.25 ^ilM IIM ■^ IM 12.2 6" lUUt. 1.8 1.4 1.6 V] a -<: H Z u u ij o u s < Z u ?. H z o a. u APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [West Indies; u [5 •? (J - -a "O •B i: 1 1 U < (J < e « O o ^55 " - " 3 "* §-g|)oz •a Stj.S ^ SK 5 o .S S a &• a. CO J " 8 (JO !P= ■a " ^ = •- 5 ►2 >.fi. a u ^^ ^ CO o e« o '•3 Mi-S «J.S 60 B -o c N s i, s a. «? < a § o •5 ?• 01 o I * Oir30ir~«««mi-. 00 CI CO « K ■* ■* « .- CO 05 !Ji fooo o « CO CO eo rt lO *ftCO ClF^f-MCIC^MCTC* s* III I I I I I I I 1 I ^ o - cocioort-'">nr>.i>.r^i-»'* t'- "to co ci 6 .a . ■- ■- -. 60 s e s .= a b n 00 a a I ^ CO I I 00 I o ■X- _c* _ I r^ I I I I '" I •*co - •+ *oo 00 O r5»^e«oo(Xi«co CI — -r«oooco - f^>O'0"*-'*C<-« " t~ \ \ \ \ t~ ' U5 ■r- ■+•**■* C) O (O O CO C? 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I I I I u. tb K ■A w c 2 CJ 'I ..T • I I I ■ I I g U — ► c cju S g 5^53 s j'. «; o ' ™ < H O ts . a C.-2, ?- C .< w o N s i g a. >? < to TH g R o A ■«; < CO ■ ■ 1 1 1 • 1 1 « 1 1 I t ■ 1 • 1 1 • 1 1 1 1 1 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 t 1 • > 1 1 1 1 W. and L. Islands.] ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS; COLONIES. [93 £ (^ a " s 9 c ■a 00 . - a « n 5 CO"" CO a j=^oo S" -1-- i • 00 3 ,j> -i -j; s ^ CO C ■" CU OJ - ■< 0) «c 2 "a i " « 1^ . I «a CI I CUM a» < *«J CO CO Ol O CD «3 o: Oico c< « o C S *^ CD to W M 0>0) r>, t^ t^ « o Oj f^ u^ lO ei CO CO & ^ ^ 00 CO CO 1^ t>* r^ r* r* i^oo •* -- r*co M COOOOCOOOOOOCO^ '^QO.-* .«= . . 1 ' . . 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H C I " c; I 00 I I ■<*• •* CTl O 00 C5 — n'O r-^ 0> CI 00 CO o 1 1 Ul O) in - 00 00 o ■:« to nto « C5 C) "tto vo CO 80 « — w »o -;:>■♦ o o> o CO oo CI ».< "« ^ — i. ^(O '^•:*r'»'N Otcr>»OI^ in I CO - CO »> to 0000 , 1 1 in into CO , 00 oj 00 CO xa X • > ( 1 1 1 1 s J! 00 00 t; ° 1 3 CO J 3h ' B c« CI 3 Of •o n lO 00 I CT CI O I I 1 »n to to to oc 00 oo «♦■ •♦ •+ ij- ■♦ 1- 00 00 c« I I I 00 I I O I tc « O X ■* o . 5 1- I 1 I I o: o I I to to to to I I I I COQO 00 05 I I I I , , , , , I I I I I 1 ( I I I I CO to o I m 1 00 1 I I I, |||ii:iiiiotooi«»---in^i •t'O •* CO lo I I I I °-^ ?. ?nS ^•'S) ^'-^ " o S o o cnto ♦ cooo « i-» K 6 t- c> - » * o o »n (ooo CO Oi « . jj^.__ _._ CO 3 ." u 1. ^5 = ^ Six Lab Twelve Carptnt Armour Conper Two Fa 1| II 96] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE ,-1 p a! •< u •1 "S -I § < 3 " a Q < H a o w a y •C V a -u s ■2 » S -3 "cS 9 ^ I e S .s Soo .5 1 cr u ~ CO oorr -5 I' CO S § 5 :^ vrt 00 oo oiO ■>»- 1^ r* CO CO »o 4" CO «o ""to W!0 O "#• Cf M « « Si I 5 >* X - < o »j 0, -i o • I I I I g 00 00 00 00 ^ •*■■*■•*■ ■*■ W M C« C« C« I o SI • I - I I CO >0 »0 « w? t <0 CO 3 O a I 00 <♦» c< ■ Q f a »o r-* > 31 05 O C3> CO I I OCO CI ■«■ o o r^oo to •- 1.0 wi c* ^ •♦• I I I I O I - 'I- O) •♦CO >o as CO O M IM OO O 00 •• 5 I fO I I CO ul 00 C* O I CO CO r^ 3 — c* >.o r* CO Cl oi O O) CO I I I I I I O O CO O CO <^0 *0 »0 M Ci ^00 I I 00 >fl I I I I CO (O I w s a- I I I I 1 I I I 2<3?8 I I I I I I I I C) o ao <-• CO ^ « CO I- [West Indies ; ^ S) •-' n (O •^ i? * o «00 o 9* r* Wi «o - o» r» ■* « n &;■♦■ o n oo CO I I n 1 o 0)00 1 00 o t^ -*■ «5 -T CI - 0> CO 1 00 •" 00 Tf- 00 ? *4 H o Of ^ « I — 00 I O5«00 >0 Ct C« »0 t>» '- O 1^ 1 o> U5 o 00 00 1 1 oo <^ '*■ U5 5 III! I I • ,1 I I I I I CI I I I I •oto 00 o> 00 n I I — oooo 2 o 00 e I S I I o a* ■'.i n 00 <^ o» >o «» '1 00 51 m CI »- I * - I to o o CO o « I I • I I I II t I to o o •c V V3 s b ffS u 25 d !;! > ca Jl* •if 2 8 '- u — 000 H a •■ «! < 0, °« f^ oft W •- « s o S u a M M ai O I- •go- » ^.§ E '-■53- a CS _ ■=*:* = 01 o a. "J Q o U m it i 98] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [Westlndicn; . • • 1 • • ) • •o e I • • • ■ 1 3 s ^ a *^2i J « 1 If "^111 1 1- «? 1 rr> Id a H < M -J- H a 1- < Q 1 CL, cT Z 1 1 n O 1 1 <- 1 , b •a! o -a < a S _ S " 3 = 301. !n ca 3 •" S -a ii .M^ Q o C 1- 73 2 2 th wl^O < u a « S «! M i tc > a w ■^ 1 1 1 ■♦ I 1 M 1 ,. in O) " ■* \ V 1 1 •; Oir- •* 1 U5 n -. » Oi t, ■^ in not - ^ w^ m >* in •» ''it si 'S.'g^ "ft (J « u^ m in If) - " - ^ sa B^ Tj . . , , 1 1 1 1 1 . > I . S p-3 . OS -fea ■§ *• 1 •«! •S -2 a 1 2 «5 * «*« . . 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CO « 3 t « s 2 s " 5i 3 a b a a o O >j •« H O H 0.25. 11 4 2i S h) 3 < H S P JS -« { ji •a 1 V ^ Q w s < bo H .s H u ■m 1 a § 55 .a H H Iff la t. t 104] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [West Indies; — No. 4.2.— B A H A M A S RETURN of tho Numbers and Distribution of the Effective Fouce, Officers, Nom-com- MKS.ONED Officehs, and Rank and File of the British Army, including Colonial Corn,, in each Year since 1815; including Artillery and Engineers. 95 Jan. itiiG — 1817 — i8t8 — 1819 — 1830 — 1821 — 1832 — 1823 — 1834 — 1825 — 1836 — 1827 — 1838 — 1829 — 1830 1 Jan. 1831 — 1832 ~ «833 Officers Preseiii, or on Detached Duty at the Station. => p o o »2u 8 5 3 2 2 3 2 I 1 1 1 4 3 3 5 4 1 4 Adjutant-General's Office, ' 25 March al's Office, 1 •833. J 9 »3 3 2 2 1 3 s 3 3 5 6 5 9 8 9 6 3 3 4 5 5 5 5 5 4 3 • 45 C3 11 12 10 4 8 7 5 5 »7 16 84 24 27 30 H «9 20 9B C51 33 >.157 4 317 4 20? 5 i6i 3 1)8 5 •65 5 137 4 138 4 123 11 338 11 327 10 431 11 537 11 5C8 531 478 579 Jo/in Maciluitald, Adjutunt-Gcncral. Bahamas,] ON MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS, COLONIES. [105 'A = ^-5 0: s Ul u > u> ,» c H 2i •< o a. H ^ 3 JJt rt « 5.'° u3 5 >> II 2 lis- 1 •< 3 "^^ 3 n fj . w S 32 V » d ji|2 __ Q " i&o ■S Q- •^ M ^o CI OO 00 j :;^ "^ le 00 00 w 00 "* 1 1 - e< *4 ^ •o to M CO n ' n 1 * <0 Ul CI * a 1- s 2 s . • ■ 1 «"-=■= < -S-i.s ■ • 1 ■ 1 1 i 73 — , '•«> s ■oSi-l t O) 01 - ^ 2 sf^.i *9 00 00 1 M e« 1 1 < • -2 1 S '^ '* • 1 1 "^ < ■" 3 >*) r5 CO ?? ^ >:; "" < < i- z 5 3: . ■- -- 4; tc 5! : 1 .= - 4> ^ be si 1 ■ t < ' 1 1 1 1 Of 1 1 a z 1 Q ■ < s: » 1 • ■c S V u S u -0 1 1 s 1 1 • s g 3 > 1 1 3 1 J * I , I ' 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 S2 u >5 1 • £2 — ij 1 - — J •< > S < 1 1 * is q: > c ^ J > ^ t 1 i-i t 1 J 1 , 1 1 < c 3 i^ si < ■i g 1 1 ?: >• f. A. • t < 1 ■a 1 •* 1 1 1 CI 00 00 tc > -t *5 1 JJ 1 00 •0 « ct ". = - ! I a, ^ si 1^ CO 1 CI ^ CO - ' -^^ ' ^ 1 1 'O t 1 1 ■♦ 00 1 i> 3 i ^ i •; r: 1 t ■+ 1 ; r 00 - 1.-5 < w 2 •^ Si ^ 4/^ ^1 -t •*■ •t '.c tr ' 0. 1 1 CO CI r^ n - !■* n - 1 t c< + 1 ■ 1 • ^~P •" u ^ C3 U tC 1 • ' ' i ' ' J s s B ;| 1 S tn t 1 * s l-^ '■S 1 = 1 >. .-> <^ >^ '•?. Z 1 1 c Q a, ^ CO 00 c n H ,Z— A__^ X, Q ~~-~~ ' .'——'" 7. z! u y; « v tJ 1 1 • 1 , 9 l\ S w * 0. t 1 u u ' 1 1 s a 9_ < ' 1 a. 3 < •/■. 3 : ■ 'I' 2 pS t 1 1 i § u 1- w c 3 31! hue < tn u ;2 < u H b '7j i I 0.25. lofi] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [West Indies ; ft < w ■< = 2 ir ^ .S C ■«: o a i- as '^ •= ■S < 'S ^ = ^ = A'^ ■K t ^ en — « to I r» 00 >fl <-«» 1 00 *>o- o - to ea . T3 o . s E a .s o Z » '-^ "• « •^ U >- 5 - J «•< 2 ^ 1 »•< 5r •" o B! 1 1 n Z c U ^ u O u ej »c ? ,- — 3 8 i i-- ^ • n ;a '" '^ « s s 00 Tt-O »ooo o o 03 •• <• 2 •+ ■o ^ 'nx ir •t- ■31 - 00 r» c« O ct '^f « 'O 1 • ♦ 1 o Oi w 1 ro lo ^ rjT) •« <-" •+ ^ 'OM ,^ + a, — (;< iT ^ c< 11*111 a. ^ O 00 00" ifti. . . E . . .3 c.a 2 ""^ : 1 1 • O ^ u ' 1 1 I ; j^ j! -** M -*■ - c ( 2 ( 1 ~4 f2 u § O O a ■j: 1 c^ '^ rof eepe e versee erk - ifice-k a o-^z ' ^i^ fl rt n rt fs s S ^ 0) <3S B o U i-2 §• a -i) C K 2 "I 3 o ■5J 31 - O CO ^ CO 00 V) xn ■ O !D 1^ CO - to O) CO o H H ca < < ■< ^ 2 < - i ? i I ?: C c w [West Indies ; '1 - 50 00 I 00 V) xn !D 1^ CO ■< < /. U * u; u « - '• '5 2 < - >- 5 ^ * 9 a r 1 ^ Mauritius.] OF MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS, COLONIES. fio; No. 44. MAURITIUS. RETURN of the Numbcrg and Distribution of the Efphotive Force, OrviccKs, Non-commis- siONSD OifiCEKS, and R.»nk and Filb, of the British Army, including Colonial Corps, in each Year since 1815 ; including Artillery and Engineers. Officen Prcient, or on Detacbed Duty at tlie Station. 1" i fl E 9 Q i 11 1 e i > '3 0. 6 1 C S i 1 1 i S S < II m a V3 II ■§ a 1 35 Jan. 1816 - 3 4 H 37 14 3 '\ 3 3 4 161 i>5 3,480 — 1817 - 4 7 37 44 H 3 2 2 I 4 »45 65 3,198 — i8i8 - 3 3 16 23 12 3 1 3 I 3 95 43 ».679 - 1819 - 3 1 >5 aC 11 3 3 3 ■I 4 90 44 1.575 — i8ao - 3 2 »5 >9 >7 1 3 3 3 4 64 37 1,366 — 1821 - 3 a >4 >9 H 1 3 2 3 3 59 33 l,2l6 — 1822 - 3 3 16 t3 14 I • 3 3 a 68 33 ».309 — 18-23 - 3 3 >5 31 «3 3 3 I 3 3 58 35 >.335 — 1824 - I 3 >5 S3 II a a 1 3 a 63 33 »,»34 — 1835 - a 3 «3 21 10 1 a k 3 a 60 33 1,112 — 1846 - 3 3 >5 31 3 1 1 1 1 a 61 30 978 — 1827 - 4 4 20 37 13 3 3 3 3 3 95 31 i,5Ct — 1838 - 4 3 31 «7 13 a 3 a 3 a 93 33 1,557 — 1829 - 3 3 18 2G 9 3 a 3 1 3 95 3> 1.548 -■ 1830 - 4 2 H 33 II 3 3 3 I 3 90 31 1.482 1 Jan. 1831 - 4 3 15 35 9 3 3 3 1 4 90 33 1,480 ~ 1832 - 5 3 32 38 11 3 3 3 3 4 98 34 1.754 - 1833 "■ 5 3 18 3> 10 3 3 3 3 5 100 35 ',794 Adjutant-General's Ofticc,1 3;j March 1833. / John Macdonald, Adjutant-General. k •. «•.'->■;. f »!;i flit I 108] B B o O nOO H ./] — >! ^■5 C ^ c« ^'•* < 1 ^ ,1 ^ H "2 H rt-O *5 '*< — aS ci IS CA >?; 3 s 1 Ml .3 ■< to •a § (A s "a o H U APPENDIX TO UEPOIIT FROM SKLF.C7' COMMITTF.I' [West Indies ; 00 S . .a ••'ll!M"0'0 ^ O F* » *^ « Q Q 3 O ^ .3 .^ "" »', o -a ' ;iso,'-uoS35-,"'~> -3 O 3 - ^ -y ^ M I ( II ^ .^ 2 • CS ■- ■= "H < t -^ S ■»; .J •< a «i J - = 112 * « ■+ 00 th F4 00 — I to 00 "O to c» Vrt ■.-: to o I C",co 00 I 00 ■,? CO o O 'O '-! -^ O •O •!■ O I I I o I I I CO nn I I '•■> «:> vo 05 00 CO CO CO ^ n 't- t -t-oo C4 r« MM O ■»; S o o o 30 o '^ o ^ o e o c .^ o ■^ ^ •*! O J — s I U5 I -o r5 - O O ".0 Ci 00 '^^ 1^ o CO C I. v4 I- >0 to «3 I I I to c« >0 W5 CI tr.-.o 'o o «o •+ t ~ CO CO t »« »^ '■■; CI I »- M 1- to o o •+ + - CO -2 It- ;£ (A :s o 1 ( I 1 • '*:"=■' 1^ J" ' 3 -1 ri •".J -0 D cas a c^ ^ <^ 3 ^ U)m I — & 1 1 ■7 = > _:,-) u o lO o n t -t-oo o 1 1 CO I t r^ I- >o '^ •^ " c* o j^ ^ CO 'y-i c» t -. — — 1 '^ C 1 1 t^ >ri ■1 '^ •m " ^ _^ ^ _^ rA $ 3Jo -3 jMauritiii'?.! ON MIMTARY F.STADLISHMENTS, COLONIES. r W 1-3 S? ^S^ si' U 09 O 3 •3 s j5 as. v.* , "■a i'3 _; * 1§ i a be .to • <« u ■ g o ■^ ;s H >. >. C* y X. g g 2 'C c Ti u o c o » u >», h. to < ;^, G a c ^ a u P6 O H a H si Cd t* s*- e3 o o 2'-a =1 , 1 1 'g. cp3 c a C3 « „ , ■ aS p:: S ". D y-^ « t c -^ u C " B CO S- ^■cS ■4 ^ W-3 •-^ - &.C3 7 ^ » . ■t B B S £ c H J: '• =0 !X to— [i"n *" .^I -CI -. f- o CI CO CI Oi m n 1 M M o 1 1 t 1 'OCO 1 rt 1 l-« <-• (M w <:* r^ •♦• CT) Tj- CO •o - Cl -• r. -• '^ r-i .-1 -• — *^ ^ o o --0 CO o w CO U1 eo - -n CO « ooto r^ O CO »o — rx CI CO oo to i:* e» «0 « CO c< t '- CO »o ^ .^o c. JJ? ri« W« f^ •o a ul ei M - « - CO • t 1 ■ 1 1 ■ 1 1 I 1 1 III 1 1 1 1 ■ t • ■ 1 • t I I 1 • III 1 • 1 HCt *•*>» • en O) n 1 n X) C) 1 t 1 1 111 C^ 1 00 CO r^ PH .-t 00 cc t 1 1 1 t 1 1 n o ' o ■.T >T - in CO CO ei — •♦ o CC Oj -O C-.oo ^ C* T t » ,— ^-^ 1 • ■ 1 ■ 1 1 1 « . • , t QD 1 1 « 1 1 1 1 1 i t 1 2.2 X 8 ?!«! 1 H 1 eg 1 1 1 t 1 III 1 ■ •-.u >< c« •" •a Q 1 1 ■ * • 11 1 '» o <-• a . .it; a. n ^•^ • a t t/3 I * 1 1 1 1 • • * ' * , (C '•-: - C5« 1 i-O d 'O ct a) CO ».o -^ o r^ •t - CO »/i - lo 1^ o en ^ CI CO •t >o c< — <- w^ .-« e« -. -o 1 o o 1 1 1 i 1 • , , 1 1 1 1 ' 1 ■ 1 1 1 1 ■■ ■:« o» t"* ►0 1^ o 1 1 1 1 1 1 t UO 1 CI O 1 1 1 1 t^ O to -t ' - D 3 o to 'C CO o CO 00 CO i^ -t n <:> c:« o '-: w oo -O CI CI t -t «o CI r^ w^ r -■ ' ' c< 1 T "^ i, 1 <.*) c s c c a O OS <4« ii -3 tj. "J 2 ^J o a 5S B3 F n « U C < 5 i^ ?-£ to— *J u) o c ?.^ c 1 ;:•< cT q: 0. o ki >4 Q rt ») cs ,o ut H •& ;< -rf , ^ y) U] o p=- 1^ S S.O H t.* t ..« I- "• "^ 2S£C '/5 O o .■<.2 M to i).-V> no] APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM SELECT COMMITTEE [Weat Indies. y ; < H O si CO - < >• < ». 'c« as M n ^ . lil o < >J R ?• s z *- x SSuOu < H O o West Indies. Midcellaneoiis.] ON M^ITARY ESTABLISHMENTS, COLONIES. [•'I n I n o> "500 00 >- VI. — 3IisceUaneous. — No. 4(5. — Admiralty, 27 June 1834. A RETUUN of tlir Amount paid for Frsigiit of Salt Provisions sent from Cork into the Depot nt Deptfurtl, and tlicncc to Multn, Gthraltar, the lyeit Indies, Halifax and Qitelii-c, respectively, together with the Hate per Ton paid for the some, in the Year 1833. ID WHAT STATrONS Amount of Frciglit puid. M id«%Tirvivv^ rh Arni^-. Navy. Hale pi-rTorj. (JONVE^KR. Army. Navy. rum. Tarn. £. «. ,/. £. s. tl. £. .. d. I'oi k to Di'ptford («) - - nil - nil . ... - nil - • nil. Ui(>tl'ord to ^rultu Cof IS - 17 - 51 8 'i 15 G - ;i<> - '7 4 . 31 4 - 10 - 10 (i ■ 5 5- 48 conveyed in a traniport. — Gibraltar - i8i - 9 5 18 i(! 7 .^ 231 1 - 8 11 103 I II mi conveyed in a transport. — ;}ti - <) 11 15 14 10 .... — Antigua • 54 1 - 18 - 22 I - — 3> - 9 10 15 4 10 ... — Barbndoeii Ml iG - 7 10 3<» 10 5 G T) 4 «7i iC - >5 - C."-, iG 3 12 - - 122 . - 8 - 48 iG - ... 821 8 -Ha Go 13 2 5 18 - — Bcrb.'ce 47 i 1 7 (i 'U >9 4 — Ufnierara • 70 J - 10 3 3(1 2 7 — 4(! - 9 - 20 14 - — — Dominica - r^d - 9 10 >2 13 Z — 18 1 - 10 4 987 — — Grenada - 21 5 - 8 (! 9 2 y — 22 1 - 9 II 11-7 » — St. Kilt's - 10 .} I 18 - 38 '9 - — 18 - 12 - 10 16 - — — St. Lucia - 41 : - !) 10 20 r, 7 — 28 - 19 - 2G Ki () — — St. Xiiu'ciit 2O 1 « <; 37 » - — 20 J - y 10 10 1 7 — Trinidad - 58 J - 10 - -9 5 - .. •■18 J - 8 11 '7 3 3 — — Tobago Hi 1 8 (i 21 - 4 — >4 I - - 14 - - » — Jamaica 51 - 7 - 14 11 . '9 7 11' 26 1 4 10 ... 3i 5 a • 10.1 l(i - >3 5 G 17 C to 14 8 7« - - 14 10 ,Sl 18 4 ^ Bahamas - 18 8 I 2 (i 20 5 - 9 - - 10 2 !0 - . i.-. - - ly '4 Tot I 4 4 Al. - - £. 23 2 4 17 - S 919 '<> 3 3(!2 7 2 (ii) Included in the price, the contract stipulating that the salt meat be delivered at Deptt'iivil. free of ull charges. John T. lirisgs, Accou'.i'.aut-'.i'j'.iera! ui'lhe N;ivv, t).. 112] APPFNDIX TO REPORT FROM SEl.RCT COMMITTEE [Misccllimeous. — No. 47. — * ■ AN ACCOUNT of the Amount paid by Great Britain for the Military Expenditure Mil ITAIIY AND MaIUTIME St Clibniltar . . . - Maltu - . - . Cape of Gooil Hope Maiiriliiis - . . - Beinmila . - . - Heligoland . . - - Ionian Islands ... I'lANI ATIONS AND SETTLEMENTS: Jamaica Cuniinand. >Vind«ard and Leeward Islamic Cunnnaiid. (Jamaie.1 j BHliainaa [Honduras Railiadoes (Jrenada Si. Viiit'int Tobago • Antigua - Mojilserrat St. Cliristoplicr's Nevis^ - Aiigiiilla - \ irgiii Iiilands - Unininica St Lucia Trinidad - British (luiana - Lower Canada - Upper Canada - ("Nova scotia Nova Scotia I New Ik.inswick Connnaiid. 1 I'riiicc l.dwurd's Island i Newtoundland - .Sierra 1 eone (iainl)ia .. . - '-.'jlon . . - \N estern Australia Pl.NAL SpTir.F.MENTS New South Wales \'an Diemen's Land URUINAKIES OK THE ARMY. Ro^'iiHf!l)t.il J'liy. C'lulliiiiif, Cuntiitgriicics mid Hutpitol Cliarfiiti, rxcliislve oi Sl.)|i|)»Ki'l fur Provisions. 75.f>4'"> '7 (ij.olio 14 48,541 3 2;j.!)!)' 7 7(i,;jii 11 .,4,1 (JO 13 C 140,542 10 3 70,7tiy 11 - 01,845 19 5 10,355 - 3 ()J,'J5!) 2 3 i.7;i» 15 - (;o,3(i'i 14 3 871,191 \i 7 Piiy of Gciu'fal and Medical Sinfl', Garrison OlTiccrs and Cliapliiins. 51 2.444 5,009 3.7'H 820 500 4.373 13 8 10 8 13 18 10 7,971 If. - 15.<''J3 17 8 I '2 ,(107 -i C) 8,384 17 8 ORDNANCE CHARGES. Vny and Allowancrs of Artillery and Kngincers. i Pay and Allowances of Civil Dqtartinents of Or.lnance. Contingent Kspenscs Civil and Military Hr.niches of On'nance. 21.345 7.892 Ii,()i8 5,848 <).i03 12,412 11,401 434 •5 2 4."3 It; 5 977 10 1) 73.931 8 4 «9.9'l'; 1 f),4()2 8,039 3.C48 1,833 3.111 l,()tt8 1,35!) 1 ,287 3.488 5.581 5.' 34 533 2,825 137.».3(> 4>.<'72 Whitehall Treasury Chambers,"! June 1834. J £. 4403 412 2,4,k3 9'9 1,984 90O 2.452 17,751 11,205 8.355 (;,8(i7 4.4>5 3,";5 3.';.i8G I' t I' V i iccUnneous. CPENDITURE RGE8. Contiiigrnt Espet)2 8.355 n\ (;,8(!7 4.41.'; 35.180 ■'I Ml.scclluneous.] ON MILITARY KSTAni.ISIIMKNTS. COLONIES. [113 — No. 47.— of cndi Colony, (so far as the «ame can be »cparatcly itoted) for One Vfor, nccoriling to tlie latest Returns, being those for the Year i« - OUDNANCE (ilAIlCiES. OnlimiiCL' Slurn. £. *.(/. 9.38.') ! l.f'3» - -1 3,ii)(i i 4,810 - -j 3." 1 5 ! :.»9 - -1 SiHAS Ti'iHi) - - l,(io7 7,410 Pa^ Hiid Alluwuiitcs of llarrack Drparliucnt. £. .'•.4,-i 2ti8 Cunstrnctiui) 1111(1 IU'|)itirs ol BiirrackHiinU Aliliinr^ l\iiiliUn)(i. £. 4,104 3.'!»7 .'5.433 482 lUrriick Siuri'v £. l,loi >.!)l)7 3.74" ;)tll COMMISSAUIAT ANU AUMY KXTIIAOIIDINAUIKS. Ciiiiiriiiti>iriut P.iv Qlill l*iis9iiyc Allowuncf!!. £. s. (I. ifi^G 10 10 2,iu8 4 10 1,'H'i 3 3 l,\2(> S 4 3 7 lVuviiiut)«. I Cfjillillgcnt Kiirnge aiiil Kiiil, lv»|)fn»isuf Military ( 'iiiiimiii'|iiirlmeiiti, liic'iilriits, Sluri'i and ami Krciuiit , S|n'ciul Allmvanco uf I and S|H'cicrruiii England. I'ty uf I'ioiiccm. £. t. (t. ;13.>7« 7 5 '^0,404 1;) 1 2i,(i|);i 17 (J •Jo,!)04 8 4 ij,07li 12 - 871 l(> 7 35« 1 10 •2,047 - 9 4(1(1 9 7 1,133 »4 !) Army WiuN. £. a. //. ■il 8 8 l()(i 1;) (i rrw>|i ■2..5 4,H 378 <''.<;74 13."93 9 « io,.';o3 i ■2,': n 7 ,-,0,8 j'J 15 3 3«,073 10 4 I i-r,3-i 3,8(io 7.1.W - 4.';..3"7 i .'".S.f'js 9 'J •i,084 i,j8j 473 ii,n(! 3.920 4:3 471 •i,oi8 I ■:.,';.'; H.JJ9 (),<)17 14 (> 3,080 12 10 i,i(;4 97*' '' 1,331 11 10 4l,t'3l - 4 334 13 7 3 3 i8,i)8c, 18 (11 .i,-SG I, I 17.034 14 10 I 'it'i-o (J (J 38j,ati, r, i I 8i;,8j(i 3 3 | .'i,47,-. '4 3 (JLTural t'lmrges; vi/. Provisions ami Stores tor Troops nii passapc to .Nitons proviileil by tlie Agent for Coniinissariat '. I1fi>:irltiirul-i ■■•n 5liiii!ry Forrign Stati.ms M -' [M3 est Returns, being those for tho Yiar 183a. \\Y KXTUAOIIDINAIUKS. Conlinncnt lipeiiMiuf Military l>r|iartmeiitt, nnd S|icclnl Alluwanccs inul V&y of pioneers. £. s. d 871 i(i 7 3j8 I 10 '^.047 - !) 4(11; () 7 1.123 '4 !» ■,1^7 ir) '" 3«,o73 10 4 Army \'ei«'ls. 3a 8 8 Triinsport of Troupi iiiiil Siori'i, Prnviiiiuna aiiilSixri^tciit IVuni Willi SurpluR Kl()rf4 r SlO(>pai;e» from OrdiiHiire amt OffiLciB* HtrvaiiH. Iteiit of Military l.«mliiui)(l ArruAi. COST III Hitililiiii'H, Preniliiim oil ItilU mill aUF.AT IIIUIAIN. I'iiyriifiiti fruiii C'uluniiil Ut-»ouri-ea. i £. s. il. £. H. ll. 13.707 - - Lit^.-i 5 4 i,i8i 12 7 (;,(ioi 4 5 3.t)rii »3 10 5,o;)() 7 10 •J'.'i(,3.';3 ij 3 i84..',7' i|i 10 ' ii,i:vi 13 1 1 I7^.43l» Ct 11 1111,141 1 _ i:,x>:S 4 _ 100,4(1; 17 - lOli.lUiS •!» 1 ( 1,740 l.i 1 1 !)|J>!I-S .1 i io8,i>3ti 18 I 8,704 |» <» !)!).:):)■.' 8 4 7o.'i48 >i) 7 :w.\i :) 4 tl7,ji(! 14 3 .I"" - - - - -,00 - - I40,ii3 (! r> 37.3'.!3 8 iO'2,8()i) >i> y !)i»74 14 7 44.83; ;j.)8,7.vi <) - 87.748 .-; a 141,005 10 I !).4,'".3 1" !) 4.4!)7 '''• - 4,'jil I'i 10 .->7!i 17 7 3,78li y 7 3,270 (> (J ■232 7 10 4.7!)y 7 > 3.34 13 1.2,117 1.-, a 38(;,ti34 13 H' '135.9.10 'o y '.27(182 4 5 208,248 (i 4 l,222 4 (1 3,;i22 -i rt 621 ly 5 ,l53.o<"J i'' - I !i.43i 17 5 3..') 1,2-24 3 11 ' '^l).oy3 H) 1 .oy I ;1 1 1 8(1,82(1 ;! 3 ■ ,'i.47,". >4 3 116,844 (i 2 3,849 11 10 i 3(17 I a 7 ; i.^'l'7 y >*)'no,,8o 12 2 ! iy,840 13 u .1i.<'.-.3 13 ."1 •'i>.3i4 "7 8 3.003,397 4 2 241,891 11 2 (Jfrural I'liarges; viz. ms anil Stiircs tor Troops on passage to the Colonics iro\ iilcil by tlif Agent for Commissariat Supplies, anil l>y tin- Stationiry Orticc, tor Military Services and irltiH-iiH ■■•n 5liil>lry For.ign Stati.ius ..- 143.5H8 18 7 28,002 13 ' 1 1(1,844 ii 2 3.481 Iti 3 yo,339 »8 3 .7'^i.50;) 13 - l8,liy 111 I \i.'M:\ 18 (i 1.71)1 •5''y 7 7 INDEX, [\.li.-lu tliH Indix, the Fifrmcs folluuin^ il,,. Numkh .cl.r to ilit n..n.l..T ol Ihf Quc.tior III lIlO Evidtlltf 1 IIIkI /I,,,, ,,. K, till, put-,- „f iIm A|.|.CIHlix J A. ' ylCX.^«/l. I'uit ot. listjmalcd uinou.it nectssary (or repairing the »„ri a Acer,., /% Adjul,wt.nem;al I).|nily adjiilant-eiifiul at CVyloii would !«■ N,i(|icient • the dcmitv ussisiaul MHirht he dispensed wi.h. Uol,,„„kv ■iiHi-vxH, Uei.utv i.«isn , ■■, n T Keiierul's o.Hee (.Ned ,.,. .lunn. Ins absence .n Kn.h.nd. 7/.^'^! "^h! I^ J ':!:!fc- Hily (or two ..(hcers in the adjntant-s,a,,erars deparln.ent ll •"", deputy ,.ss,s,ant general detached \Zn lle;.d-,,!^^,e.s. VZ..': 7 '" "^''^^^'[^ ^::.^ ^ he iiuinber o „oo,,s a, Ceylon wnnid no, le.p.ire an increase in lh.''uljn,anl~al' depar.nien, /.o.cr o.v,;., 2.-/^ - - ^|)n,us ,n .he adjnlant-.enerars denart.ne.il lot lo severe as those o( the (piarlei-niastei's general. C.nJ,;,,,, 27^7- .7,-.. /IJna,, WcMern Co.is! ,f. Ketnrn of the n.nnl.er aiu( distrihnlion of the eflcctivc force o(hcers,„„n-conin,iss.oned odicer, and rank and (ile o( .he Ihitish ainiy, iiicludim' ,' -o mal corps, in each y.ar since .M,,-. ,„d,id,n<; artillery and engineers. A^. p. .,,~Uh r„ of all pay, a lowanee. en.ohunents and salaries issued to olh.ers of ,l/e 11 di.ary. Jrriso ...edica and n.iunM.sanat s.ad, and the oi.lnance departnien,. for the i. months enZ' 3.st Alarch ..v,:t. ///,/, ,, .0-,, U.^ula.ions as to liaiKler o( soldiers corns jihroad. in conmin a„„n o pnnishine.,,, J,,,,. ,,. ,;j, ,4 H,,,t,n, of the avera.^c mi bero el.x.,veaiHl,.oii-ell,e.,ve (oiee. in eaeli year since ,S,,-„ s.a.ioned on the Ve t Coasto Aliiea with .he nnmher o( oHieeis and men who died, and of those who were llivaJKled, in each year o( Ihe above peno.l ; also the proporlion of lihicks and J- uiopr ,ns App. p. 04 U,|uin sho^MM- .lie animal avera-e slivnulh of the hiaek and w I, .: tioups on the \\ est coas, of AInca, and .he propornon of siekm.ss and monality on e simiL station (or the period e„n,menei„n ,8,7 .„„| , ,„|,„. ,S,j;j, bo.h mcl.isive.^yl,.,, ^ 2 N„b t,„, ,, , „ ,1, (. ,„„ ij,,^^,^._._ |M.:.„p.,n .he (oits on he Go d (,oast dated iH.h be, ember ,H..i, App. p. ,5 1.:,,,,,,, '„f a lelte, (lom .1 l2 Secretary of State to the .See.etaiy of the Treasmy. d.,t< d J7lh Au.r„st 18.8 rel itu - compensaliun to black slaves, App. p. 2.;. ' " ' "^''""'- *" African Coipi. See Rnijal Afriuin Vttip^. Agent Vl,nm//,r. Nature of the aeeuiints kept by the a-. lU vatiiallcr at Maha M,A- 7(1, Alfina llm, 15ana, k-ma-ler not i„,essaiy at Alnoa May in linie of peace Cnle -.i ... AiiioMiil ol allowan.;e, paid by the ..idnance to banack-master at, App. p. 31. " "" "^'ni' *"'"' ''"-""■^'' l«evforme,l by ,'ummaii(lai)t, ami whothcr o(lice necessary, Tiiffndl Ammai, Smlh. l{,i,mi of tie- .n,mi„ is aii.l .listiibntion of the etteclive Cnree o(Hcpr«, n,ii/.i Ae.wimt of .u.i.HHu p„ui i,v (Ileal Bmain loi the militarv expondit.;re of each colony (01 one year ending iSjj, ;l^y,. ^,, 1 li, I ij. " ,-)7<.'- .'liiiwpo/i, .,r,j ANN I*. A r [Milit'.uy F.x pi' ml it lire, AiiHcipolis. Amount otallownncfs imid liy tlio ordnance to deputy storekeeper and acting liarrack-rnaster, App. p. 53. Antigua. Amount of pay and allowances made Ijy the ordnance to storekeepers ai.d other oiri(;crs at, App. p. ()4 Amount of allowances and cniolimients rnad(! t)y com- missariat to assistant coinniissaries-^enera! and other ofTicers, App. p. 1 01 -Account of amount paul I)y (jreal Britain lor the niditary expenditure tor each colony for one year, App. p. 112, 113. Atmi^ Esliiimtes. Amount paid for the Malta fencibles ap|)ears in the army estimates, tiiii/ i(io2. Armi/ liilidunliiiiiries. Account of amount paid hy Great Britain for army extraordinaries for each colony, for one year ending iH3'2, App. p. 1 13. Assistant Surgeons. Pay and emoluments of assistant surj^eons at GihraUar, Pi/m l;5,5. Australia, Wivtcni. Account of amount paiiiiis. Uel'irn cd' the nmiibers and distrdtulion of the ed'cctive force, otTicers, no'i-com- MiissHuied ollicers and rank and (ile of the British aruiv, including colomal corps, in each year since iH|-,, inclndint; artillery and engineers, /l/i/i. /a 104 Return of all pay, iillouantes, einolunicnts and salaries issued to oHicers ot the military, garrison, nnrdical and coniini-sariat statl", and of the ordnance department, for the 12 months ended 31 March 1S33, App. p. lOj, 106. Uukeri). l',stal)li>lmieiit of the public bakery at Ciibraltar, by which bread can be supplied cheaper than by contract, Ki(o»'/iv 2,sS-2()7. 271 Army and navy bakery at Malta might be cuiisdiidated wiih an increase of a few hands of the lower grade, which would cause a saving, Camming ()(iti-l)73. Ilarlmdnes. Comparative statement id total annual value of military allowance issuable to each rank of slafi' and regimental ollicer m addition to their pay at, according to the jircsent establisliuient, distiiigui.-.hiiig those at which a colonial commuled allowance is paid ill iiioniy, and those at which, with the exception of lodgings and black servants' money, the same are i-sued in kind, /I/7). //. 72 At Barhadoes, where there is no naval establishnieut, the depot of provisions ban been placed under the care of the commissary, Mfek 384 Amount of allowances paiil by the ordnance to sto-ekeeper and other oflicers at, .1 /)/'•/'• !i.j. 9'' Aiuuuut of allowances made by commissariat to deputy comniiNsaiies general and other ollicers at, .\pp. p. IiU. Jiarbarif. Arrangement made with, for the supply o( fresh meat to (iibraltar, //(/(/ 8;) — Frish meat is supplied IVmhi Barbaiy id a betler desciipliuii and at less > ost than Iroin Spam, Kiiou/ts 231-234. lidirdik-iiiii^lfr'- Ihpiirlmnil. Kxtent o| the barrack-master's cbtablishment at (iihialtar, and dilhcully of reilucmg it. Hurtling 4!)><,4II9. Barrack Serjeants. Barrack serjeanls at Graham's Town are dei idedly wanted, Cule 2127. Jiarracks, Ionian Mauds. Troops an.' kept therein ; they air in hialtliy situations, but are not of'a j;ood des< ription, Frencli h84-h8i, Darracks are bad, \li as formerly, 141)6 They would not )oin an enemy's force unless It «ere the DiUcli, and then not in numbers, 1947 i'oruiation of militia at the Capo not expedient, the farmers being too scattered, 1948, 194c). 1970-1975 Garrison can- not be further reduced, 1952-I956 Cape mounted ritlcmen an' available force as far as the nature of then- services will admit, 1958. 197G infantry would be of use as a support to the Cape corps against the CaiiVes, 1060, l()6i Impossible for European miuil. Coiisidfred necessary by tlie government of Malta to licep up biscuit 111 case of emergeiKv, Cummiii'j, Ii(i3 r.isciiii can b(! sui'plu'i; almost as cliea|iiy as if manufactuied 111 the bakery. C I supply of d bv contract a.....,->t .,, i.,,f,,|,iy as II maimiaciuied in tne ijakery. LiiiHimiia (j-, Ouiitvol 1', latter very mmdi belter, being made from the best cjrn, Cummw. (n; Coniinis ..,".' could not supply biscuit for the navy as well as it is done at present, JAvA- 774. ^''^^ek^''7'' ' ^^"""'^ "' """' ^'''^'"" "* '"'"' '" °'''^''""'' ^''' S'i"d">S hiscuit flour, Jli.ssclt,^'n Jiihii. (Analysis of his Evidence.)— Commissary-general at Gibraliai n. Number of persons in the commissariat department in 1814, and duties of the <■ missary-geiieral. 1,7, 9S Amount of the garrison in 1814,1,,, Present uuoimt i the coinmissaii.il, auJ compari,on with 1814; savin-s eHeeted" therein ; not possible t' , do with a less estabhshmeiil, lol-ioli. m- — Offic; „f pavmasifr-gemial in iSi , field by some person m this country, and exicuted by deputy, 107— Value of ih > Spanish dollar, and number of dollars given for an ounce of gold, 1 1 j^ 113, ' Black Pemitmers. A commutation of the pensioi blaek pensioners at ijieria J eoiie has been proposed, and partly acted on, llai/ \.\t,t>, 1407. oops, Black Tniopi. Iii,i(k troops ill the West Ihdhs not to be comjiaivd to Hntisli tro, Culv 1933-193,0 >i'J ditfieiiliy in ol)laimiig a sufficient number of blu. ks tor enlistui r m Mierra Leone, llai, 1410, 141 1 I'ay of black troops equal to Curopeaus PimtlaZ M.V2-1466- ' ■' BloiLinic, (•..pi. Wilimm Ilcmy. (AnalvM.* of his Evidence.)-Evamimuion upon the climate ot .Sierra Leone, ami its ( H'ect 011 the health of Europeans Kifi,,- ifi-- Sierra Leone preferable hi point of health to Cape Coast Castle, (iaiiibia 01 [-ennudo Po. 1()78- 11)87 .Mdilia pailly ofiicend by coloured people, but they wiaild not be fit to receive cnmmissioiis m the colonial corps, |fi9..-i(lj,7 WInlber the coloured population ( apable of perloimiug any of the offices now perloimed by Luioneans ilJoS- 1702 l-ree blacks in the U e.st indies nun of holier ablblies th.oi llm,e at St-ir i Leone, 170:5-1:08 b.id moral chaiuctei of the mulattoes at Sieira Leoiic, 17(30-1711 Question agitated not long ago as to increasing the force at Sierra Leone, 1712 '""• ' - Balder, k h I ii8J [5 0T C A P [Military Expcnditurp, Uutclei; Capt. li. E. Substniicc ot a licport IVum, upcm the Forts on the fiold Coast, dated iH December 1826, App, p. aj. Jirilish Guinea. Account of amount paid by Oreat Britain (or tiie military expenditure of each colony for one year, ending 1832, App. p. 1 12, 1 13. Brouu, Alexander. (Analysis of his Kvidence,)— Captain in the engineers at Ceylon, 2508-251 1 Malay troops are equal to British for many parts ol garrison duty, 2512- ^STj One regiment of liuropean troops might be reduced without increasing the native troops, 2516 — -Nccc ty fur two officers in the adjutant-general's department, 2517> 251S Necessity for ,. mrge medical staff fron- the number of military stations, -5'fl Many stations are used for revenue purposes; for military defence Rume might be dispensed with. 2520-2524 Climate of Ceylon affects the health of Europeans more than the West Indies, 2526 Expenses of living at Ceylon, show- ing the necessity of the extra allowances, and comparison with the West Indies, -.0-5-2552 JMuces where magisterial duties are ])erformed by commandants, 2553- 2571 I'ny <^'f othcers and men employed on working parties, and description "of work performed, 2572-25H1 Nature of duties in the (luartermaster-general's depart- ment; one officer therein ouglii not to be reduced, although engineers have gone out and relieved the (lei)artmciit, 2582-2504. Burgher Fura: Advantages of the burgher force at the Cape of Good Hope, Hay 1766, 1767. Vnffres. Manner in which cultio or projicrty stolen by the CafTres or other tribes ie re- covered, t'()/( 1820-1828 Impossible for European infantry to act against the Cufiies, Bell 19G2. Canada. Return of ili ? nurnhrrs niul efTortivc force, officers, non-commissioned officers, and rank and file, (if the British army at Gibraltar, iiKlu(liiip. p. 27—- lieturn of all pay, allowances, emo- luments and salaries issiieil to otlicers of the inilitaiy, gariis(]ii, iiiedieal and com- missariat staff, and of the ordnaiu'e departnieiit, fur 12 mmiths ended 31 March 1H33, App. p. 28-32 A list of the principal (.idiiaiice stores at the Cape of (iood Ilo()e, in charge of the ordnance keeper, in the year 1H31, ;iiid slidwing the value of the same at each station, App. p. 33, 34— Compaiatue statdiiciit i.f total annual value of several military allowances issuable to each rank ofstatl and ie;:iiiieiilal officers, in addili'iu to their pay, according to the present eslabli>hmeiil, distinguishiiiu those at which a colo- nial commuted allowance is paid in money, and those at which, with the exception of lodgings and black servants' money, the same are issued in kind, A/i/i. n. 72. Cape Caait Casllc F.sliiiiatrd aiiuiuiit necessary lor repairing the fort of Capo Coast Castle, //«;/ 1372. Cape Corps. Establishnu lit of the Cape coips ; expense llieieof, which will be borne out of the local vevrsiiic whrn the fiiianri - i.f ilw rolivny will bear it , its diities, llut/ '7:57- 1745-' — Proposition from Sir Lowry Cole for increasing the establishment of the Cape corps, //«)/ 1755-1757 Cape corps bdter adapted for its purposes than a British I'orct would ije, Cule 1818, iSli). NecesMlv [ Colonics; 1S34.) C A P CE Y [>i9 Cape Corps — continued. Necessity for an increase of the colonial corps, pari.oularly if the Commando system (lone away with, Co/e 1S40-180I But in that case i", would not be desirable to reduce the British force, Cole 18.52, 18,53 Good state of disciplrne of the Cape corps, Viife I9ii-i;)i4 Kfficiency of the Cape corps, particularly when supported by the lloyal African corps, Dnnkin 2 163-2 108 Cape-mounted riflemen an available force, iisfarasthe nature of their services will admit, Jietl 1958-1076 Infantry would be of use as a support to the Cape corps against the CafFres, Ue/l igCo, 1961. Ciipe Town. Amount of allowances paid to storekeepers and others at, App.p.2Q- Aniount of pay and other eiiioluiiicnts paid by commissariat to deputy-commissary general and others at, App.p.;ii A list of the principal ordnance stores at, in the year )j<3i,aiid showing the value of the same, App. p. 33, 34. Ciipofi/. Amount of allowances made by the comni'ssariat to depnty-assistant commissaries general and other ollictrs at, App. p. 102. Casua/lics. I'looortion of casualties in the Island of Ceylon, Gnncoifne 2084,2689. Catalonia. See Wine. Cavalry. Cavalry force at the Cape should be increased. Bell 1963. Ceiita. Amount of the garrison there in 1814, liisselt 99 Persons in the commissariat at Gibraltar employed also at Cciita, /{ivvt« 100. Ceplmlonia. Number of Maltese that accompanied Captain Napier to Cephalonia, but which colony did not answer, J'reiich H33-841 Amount of garrison necessary for Ct'phrtlonia in time of peace, and to what purposes it would be applied, Napier Q21- 927. 960-9(59- Improvement of Maltese, from systematic treatment, in the island of Cci)lialoiiia, Sapier 986-990 Dilapidated state of trie fortress, and number of men necessary for its (lelence, \apier io:;.-,-io4i Number of men that would be sufficient for Cephalonia at present, Ruihdell 1091-1111 Amount of allowances paid to de|)Uty-assistant commissary general and other olHcdrs at, App. p. 17. Cergio. Amount of allowances paid to under-storekcpper at, ^;);>. /> 17. CevLOS, tSLASD OF: 1. Cicneralti/. 2. Papers laid liefuic the Committee. 1. Generalli/ : Extent of force while the island was in possession --f the East India Company; why it was withdrawn from their . ;■. 74 -Slate menl "piYp.ritd from the accounts of the goveinment of Ceylon, for the year 1832, being the latest returns at the Audit- oIKce, sliuwing the amount paid in one year by the colony, or out of the colonial levenues, to tlie ollicers of the uarrison of Ceylon not being on the start', stating how niiieh paid to .'acli, according l<< Ins rank, Ai'p.'p. 7.1-78 ^Suppltimentary slattmient, •'^'7" '' 3 showing laoj I C E Y C O I, [MiliUiy Kvpfiidi' Ce,//on, Island of— 2. Papers luid he/ore the 0<«mi7he,\ St. Account of amount paid by Great Uritain fur (he militarv^vnen'diturp at, for one year endnvj: iS'}'^. App. p. n., ,,3 Amount of allowances .adbvle orunance to deputy storekeeper and other oliicers ut, App. p. y,,. ^*'""^^'" t"'"^ "^y l'"-' Civil Dc.mrtm-nts. Malta. I^xpe.lient to increase the nmnbcr of Maltese therein W/,it z:£:);^:^:;::;^r'' '- '^''''' '^ •^"""'^^■"^ ^'-'-^ ^^^^^JTi^Hu Civil Engineer Civil en-inoer lately sent out to Cevlon is principally employed .„ land surveying, G,,sco,„c '.^oy-^-^.H l.;ut,eulars as "to sending ou't a Vml ' '"^m . , ., J manner w. which a wdl relieve the duties of cpiartermast, r- .."ural, I la,, •..sJh'" K,),; Cm/ lh,spi/al. Impropriety of a valuable barrack in ihe centre .,f the town of Gibrdl'ir being given np in ,8u, hy S,, Oeor.e Don for the purposes of civil o pita rt I5t)-lfll— Civil hospital IS SUppijH.'.l l-' ....1.......... .!..l ..:. .: .. .. . I."'|l. -'.4"" Pi/m 348-30I It would not be Ht'd rigor 20()— 213. Civil Practiliuiiers. See Medical Men. ^'mii:Z SS;>0."""^ "'■ '"' °^ '"^ ^'"^ "'■ ""■ -"^^ ''' ^'^"^ ■' '- ^^""^'^ -'I pay, rted by voluntary subscriptions of the inhabitants large enough in case of any contagious disease' and its effect on the health of Climate, lixamination upon the climate of Sierra Leone Luropeans, U/enkunu- ■>(\G'j-il]~-j, ' ^'t'tlfe'cw TJ!""- v\^7% '.^"•■''^■^'^ '^ ''" l-i;ade ui f iities s jrl 111: Ijnr. J I . nations of (piarli transferred to the oil hoiild \\ 121 Coie, General the Hon. Sir Luwn/. (Analysis of his Evidence)— continued. secretary to the governor bein^r continued, 2122 -Necessifv for there bein.r a more responsible niiin than a store-serjeant in cliarfie of stores at Simon's Town, 2^23-2 126 Harrack Serjeants at Graham's Town are decidedly wanted, 2127. Colonibu. Forpe^considerul nccessiry by Colonel Agnew for defence of Colombo during a eonnnandant at this place; if so, his duties and salary; if civil duties performed, and whether oflice necessary, IJolifuuhe 230K, Brown 2553, Gmatyne 2795 Amount of allowances paid by the ordnance to storekeepers aiidother officers at App. p. 62 Amount of pay and allowances made by commissariat to deputy com- niissary-gcneral, and other officers at, App. p. G5. C'tlimial Corps. Colonial corps, if appointed, would be in the pay of the Ionian Islands and a part jf their force, S'apter 10.00, 1051 Greeks or Maltese micht form the' colonial r.oips, without violation of the constitutional charter. Napier loZ^-iorA Number of liritish otiicers that should belong to that corps, %)(('/• 10 -,5-lL A "l^ettular force composed of island, is nii-ht be raised, if not too great in prop'o'rtion to British troops employed, Rmhde/l 1114 They might desert easily, ItmMe// 1 1 1 -,— Preference to a Uritish over a Greek battalion, HuchMl 1 1 !(>, 1 1 17. Cuhmits. All account of the amount paid l.v Great Britain for the military exiieiiditure of each colony, so far as the -ame can be xipnrateiy stated, for one year, accordiii.r to the latest returns, being thos'. for the year 1832, Jpp.p. 112, 1 13. ° Cn/oiiml Populiitioii. Whether the coloured i)opulation at Sierra I _one capable of per- forming any of the offices now performed by Europeans, Bleitlmrne 1098-1702. Commamhwt of the J-roiil'er, Cape of Gocd Hope. Duties of the office of commandant of the frontier, his pa-., and v hy that ofHce could not be united with that of commandant of the Cape corp", Be/l if)77-2ooi. Vommamhtnts, Ceylon. Duties and pay of commandants at different stations, and how far necessary, Uoh/onke 3'iOl-2303 Commandants at smaller stations act as magistrates • .•^ome of them have b-eii done away with, lluli/oake Q3G1-2372 •Whether a necessity for the continua. ce of the coniinniidanls at the different small posts, and advantages of those situations being filled by military men over civil, Loire ■J424-243(; Examina- tion as to the necessity for the pay oV commandants, in addition to their other allow- ances, iMxi€ 24y7-2;j03 I'laies where magisterial duties are performed by com- ndants, Ihowit ■-•,-,,-,;!-2,',7i How far necessary for military commandants at the eial stations, 'I'ul/iie/l ■2^^r^~2^)lt^^. t'ommimder of tlte Forces. Appointments of the general officer commandino- the troops at the Ionian Islands, iiLH(/«/c// I ()()C. "^ ' iJomwaiiilo. Nature of 11 coiiiiuando, and for what purposes ordered out, ('«/c 1829 1839 I'lirther particulr.is as to the commando system, which it would be desirahfe to ilo away with but for the expense of increasing the military force, ('«/<■ 1804- 18(14, 18-7- i'o.VMr.fS/iniAT DePARTMEUT: I. (jemicil/i/. '■i, Ciipe iif (iiitul IIo}>t. '■A. liiliniUar. 4. Miiliti. i"). Ionian hiamh. (J. I'apers /aid tief'ore t/ii Committee. 1. (jeiieral/i/ : I'os.Mbiliiy of anisolidatiiig the departments of the army and navy for the supply of ' '■■"' "'■ '' AH. 86-89; Windward and Leeward Islands, ytpp.p. 91-103; Bahamas, Anp. p. 105, 106; Mauritius, App. p. 108-110 Account of amount paid by Great Britain for commissariat extraordinaries, fur each colony, for one year ending 1832, Avp. p. 113. See also Ceuta. DeputyAssistant Commissari/-Getieral. Commissariei Stajf'. Amount of the commissaries staff at Gibraltar. Knowlc.s 217 Inipus- sible to perform the duties of the commissariat with a less stall, Kmiirlrs 308. Commissurt/ Clerks. Amount of their pay iit Giliialtai, IHssclt 1 14. Commissary General. His duties at Gibraltar, liiiscll 9S. Commission Court. See Mired Commission C'o;///. Consolidation of Provision Department^. See Cjinmissnrin' Constitutional Chart, Ionian Islaiuk. Section 2, chap. 7, of consliiutioiiid cIkui of the Ionian Islands, relatiiit; to military establisliiiients, Ajip. p. is. See also Ionian Islands. Contracts for Provisions. I'vjls o( vicliiailniii llu- n;ivy bv contrict, Meek 793, '94 Nature of the conliacts lor ilu; army aiui onhiiiK't', hinuies 218-221. Corfu. Forcf necessary for tlie (lefenc.' ot, I'remh S9m-S,,4, y,ipir 1003-101 1 Neces- sity for keeping Corfu lis tlie key to the Adriatic ; "it is a betler harbour llian Cepliiiloiii;i liudsdell 1084 10S8 Estimated ferce of the Freiuli in defending the lines in front of the citadel, liudsdell 11 19 -The town could not be maintained by an cneinv if the IJritish in nossession of Viilo, the citadel, and Fort Neuf, liudsdell' \ 126-1 12H^ Points from which an enemy could throw shells into the anchorage betwixt Vi.jo ami the town and citadel of Corlu, lituhdell 1 193 Tntd the works at°Corfu are coinpiele, there should not be any considerable reduction of force, /i'//(/«/i// 1 1 21)— — Necessity for the works being earned on by niililaiy nun iiisiead ot peasants, A'm,A,/,// 1 1 jo -1I40. Conipirative pay of soldiers employed 111 tlie woiks and native arlilicers, showing the general a.hiiitages ..fthe lonner. liudsdell ll4l-ii,-,4 Coit'u is a dear coiiiiliy to live in, compared witii Malta, or the {'oiiliiieiil, Inil » '.leap a< compared \miIi I-ainlaiid, /;'« .in- expei-ted to Uo tiiiislird, U-n, I-,.,, M,:l>eil;, ijoS i'aitienUrs a:> 10 estimate for tie- lortifitaiioiiB. Colonies; 1834.] COR DUN [»93 al Crnig, Sir J. Decern" Corfh — continued. Cork. See Salt Provisions. v.iri^v^icL'i^Su^ir^'eZiiru;:;.:;:'':^ :";:e;:7,:Hi^".?r- ^r' -" ^r* It V.OM not nu«ch dinnnish the duties of the uaiTison fin? fof-''*"^ "-''y g .avour orco„.o..dat.n, the .n.y and nav/d:;;;^;;;,S;^l:if ^-IJT^^-S;;^ D. ''::i:ut..'iX;? n!?. ""' '^"^ ''^^ ^"^'^•'"^"''^ "^"-^ -'^- -^y '^vouraUe c.r- /Awm;r„. Amount of allowances paid by (he ordnance to the slorckeencr and n.I.., olhcers at, Appp. j,(i An.ount of allowances n.ade by th ' co. riS/t ?o d.n f H^sistant conuu.H.aries general and other oflicers at, App.],. \l^^^°'"'''''"'''^^ '^ d^puty Dep/JhriL Sec I'rovisioKS. Di-put,/ Assistant Commissar,, Gnurnh. Amount of their pay at Gibraltar, li.ssett lo" n.s duties, partK-nlarly with regard to the militaiy chest and issue of p, b lie n onev'T^ •In, : . i ,9"'y "'f '^^ffy fon.nnssary-emral draws bills on the Treasury Know/e, Ai:u£7,7 "'"'""' -uployment of three deputy assistant commissaries' general! '':i;S!n JI;;:;;;t?'iSt;:'""^'" ^' ""'""" '^ "*"^^ ''- -renntendenceof the Dollars. See Spamsli Dollars. .lie ord„.nce to depnty-sU.ieKL .er'iiuf -J,; .V ll^.ers iJ/lJ. ^i /J^!!: Amilun ol' mS:": "0? ^^ " -"~nat to assistant commissa.yi^nJral'^id otCXl^ 7>()H, .S'fV Cn'orcfe. See Cir/V Jhspiiat. Do,^,, Sir ;>>,,/;„,.. (Analysis of h.s K videnee.)-Governor of the Capein .8.0 and iS., gov 'minent. pai.icuia.iy ^hen si^^.i^ted ^Xni^lMr';::^^:;^.^:^^;:;:''''''' ^'Tndm\'^wI'r'7V ^•"'""''"™,'^'^ '^-'^""•y D"n slat, no; >v,,snns tor traiiHlemnf; the Island of fevlon to the British (iovemmtni, and answer thereto, ;/«v 2871 • ^^"- ■ • n,tatcment of the amount of military force at Gibraltar at dill,, rent periods, during poace and war, from 1-1510 lH;j4, //(/(/ •>7-75 Necessity tor keeping the amount of force sutliciently ludi to prevent iiuonvenitnce from disease occasioned by epidemic fever. Hay 77 Ketnrn of the effective strength would have been smaller if given at an unhealthy instead of a healthy period of the year, llmi 78-Ho Statement of the number of non-effective men in a battalion, iV/jwy 732-737' \'ariatioii in the effective force at Malta and the Ionian Islands since 1815, llai/ i,0<'''- 2. Papers laid be/ore tlie Committee : Return of the numbers and effective force, oflicers, non-commissioned officers, and rank and file, of the liritish army at (iibraltar, iiichuliiig eoliiiiial corps, in each year since 1815, including ;irnilery and engineers :— (;iliialtar, .//./>. 35; Nova Scotia, /!/>/). /). 47 ; NcwhiuiKllaiid, .'l/ ; t'eylon, Ajip. p. /../). cjo ; Uahamas, App. p. 104; Mauritius. App. /). 107 Return ol the average number of etiective and non-etlective lonx' in each year since 1815, stationed on the W"est Coast of Africa, with the number of olhcers i.nd men who died, and ol those who were invalided, in each year of the above period, also the proportion ol blacks and Europeans, App. p. 24. See also Ajriai, Western Coast of. Gibraltar, i, 2. Iruops. Engirteir Department. Establishment of the engineer department, Harding 500 Which is on the lowest scale, Harding 504. Sec also Civil Engineer. Emdemic Periods at which the epidemic has visited (iibraltar, and prompt means taken to eradicate it, i'ym 33»>-;M;1 Existence of the dise^.se was reported in 1810, by one of the civil medical men, I'ym :f>:i, 3v54 Number l.,st by lli.> epid. inic m 1804, I t/m ■j-o_372 Code of regulations drawn up, by which epidemic tiver could be imme- diately detected, I'ym 352. Extra Carrunn Surgeon. Supernumerary and temporary otlice of extra garrison surgeon at Gibr.'l'ar has been done awny ,ith, Viim 314. ^• lernando Po. Distance between it and Sierra Leone, atid average pas^ag* /% ';iV0-i3>|< ™ Extent of troops at Fernando Po ; orders have gone out lor abandoning the island lla„\-y.v> Fernan.lo Po abandoned from the impossibility ol obtaining the consent ol Spain, Hay I3*^!l- 'lilt')- .SVralstt Mtitd Ciimmisswn Coait. Fn- ICC. Colonics; 1834.] F 1: V r i{ i: [««5 Fever, Inconvonianr.c occasioned at Gibraltar from the excess of population in the gar- rison (luring fovtr, JIat/ 83. ■Set- also Epidemic. Field Cornetn. Nature of the duties and api)ointmunt of field cornets, flay 1837-1839. Fittdlai/, Colontl. (Analysis of his Evidence.)— Governor ^r.i commander of the troops at Sierra Leono, i4i,-,-i4i!) Npccssity for those oftices beinj; united in one person, 1420 Uensons why thu present force is not sufficient (or the defence of Sierra Leone, 14'21-1433 Militia arc suflicient fdi the purposes for which they are used, but could not act on permanent duty ; iheir streiiijth and ))ay, and why not advisable to increase them, 1434-14^1 Pay of black troops equal to Europeans ; not advisublu to obtain liberated Africans at a lower nite of pay, 14.72-14,-,-, Militia clothed and maintained at the expense ol the colony, the revenues of which are not sufficient to justify an increase of force, i4/i()-i45()^ Extent to which there is sullicient {{round for greater occupation in Sierra Leone for liberated Africans, i4(io-l4()3 Cause of the settle- ment at Gambia, strength of its garrisDn, and expense of its military works, 14G4-I47'i Kidnapping did prevail to a considerable extent at Sierra Leone, 147G-1481 If the garrison withdrawn from Gambia there would be scarcely troops sufficient for the protection of Sierra Leone, 148'. How far hostility to be apprehended from the natives, amount and descrii)tion of their arms, and facility with which they might land, 1483-1481) American colony of Liberia suppuited by subscriptions wiliiout exoense to the government, and why their proceediii'js wiili the natives are likely to provoke hostilities, 1491-1 -,ot) I'opulation of Sierra Leone, i..-/)7 If Sierra Leone were to be abandoned the lilterated Africans would be seized by ilio natives and sold for sl.ivcs, i^oS-ijii There are instances of liberated Africans selling each other as slaves, 1514, 1515 Tliere would be difficulty in officering regiments willi inulattoes, from their want of capacity, i,53'2-l,'-,3')^ Ad- vantages of the settlements of Gamliia and Sierra Leone in i)reventiiig the slave trade, and lor the purposes of commerce, whieli could not be carried on without military pro- tection, 1, -,37- 1, -,47 No reduction can take place in thestalfut Sierra Leone: the medical stall' should be increased, 15^8. FihhJ. See Proiisioiis. Furl (iciiTfrc. Amount of allowances paid to barrack master and other officers at, App. p. 4-;^ Amouiii paid by commissariat to deputy assistant comniissary-general and other officers at, App. p, 45. Furl Kiiii;. Whether a commandant at this place; if so, his duties and salary; if civil duties performed, and wlu'lher office necessary, Holi/tmlic '233 1. Foil Mat-diVKild. Whether a commandant at this place ; if so, his duties and salary ; if civil duties performed, aiul whether office necessary, Tiijnell syHS-iyoo. Fart M'Dounll. Whether a commandant at this place; if so, his duties and salary; if civil duties performed, and whether oflicc necessary, llulyoake 232J, Brown 2560, Tujl'mlt 297f), ■21)77. Free litack^. I'ree-bl >.cks in the West Indies men of higher abilities than those at Sierra Leone, Jiknkurne 1703-1708. Freight. Rate of freight from Cork to Deptford, and from thence to Gibraltar, and doubts of getting the freight as clieap from Cork direct, Meek 408-410 Return of amount paid for freiirlit cf salt provisions sent from Cork to the depot at Deptford, and thence to Malta, (iibraltar, West Indies, Halifax and Quebec, respectively, together with the ••'ite per ton paid for the same in 1833, ^}pp. p. 1 1 1. French, Captain Ilciiri/. (Analysis of his Evidence.)— At Malta the men arc three nights ill bed to one on duty, which is a tair |iroportion,8i8,8l9 Excellency of the Maltese colonial corps to the purposes for which applied; advantage that would result from raising a similar battaimn for garrison duties, which would establish more good feeling towards tiiis coiiiilry, S20, S-i Places at which the Maltese would be willing to serve tor a limited period; and which, from ali'ording them present means of employ- ment, would increase their affi'ction towards this government, 822-829 Officers of the new corps should l)e a mixture of Pritish and Maltese, 830-H32 Number of Maltese that accompanied Captain Napier to Cephalonia, but which colony did not answer, 833-841. How far ihey serve in the navy, and for what period, 8.P2-84,-, Regiments who have been for a long jiiiiod in the M'-dilerraiieuii do not lose their efficiency, 846-830 linlish troops, il raised to serve lor life in the Mediterranean, would not be so good a des(ri|ition of men as at pres-nt, 851-8:^5. [Second Exainination. I -Depiity-assistanl quartermaster-general in the Ionian Islands, 8,--,7-8()() Amount of force that would be sufficient for garrisoning Corfu and the i-lniul ot V i4i>, H!>3-Ht8 Uitheulty of one person coinliiniiig the offices of governor and military commandant, H79, 8811 Cheapness of |)rovisions and colonial produce, 881, 8H2 Troops are kept in barracks, which aie in healthy situations, imt are not of a good dfscriiilioii, 884-889 I'urtlier ex.uniniition relative to llit^ amount of force necessary f-r the defpncu of Corfu, 890-894 Force necessary for the protection of tile Island of Zaiile, 89-,-897. '>?"■ s 2 Frcth I ft r. 9 1 26] F R i: GAR [Militnry Kxpenditure, f Iresh Provmnm. Nature of the contract, for the supply of fresh meat at (nbmltar Knoui., uh8-27o--N anner of obtanung the «u,.,.iy of fresh j.rov.Hu.ns at Malta (umm,,,^ 058 Supply imr the garrison altogether with fresh n.eat would be an economical arrangement, Cumning 6(ii. (J62— -Doubts whether the navy coul.l b- suppl.e,! by the army contractor with fresh beef at Malta and Gibraltar, but navy a'ent victualler could supply the army, Meek 782-785. ' ^ " "' See also liarbart/. Pruvisiuiii. Frontier Dull,. Measures that have been taken to relieve the regular troons of thp fmn tier duty ; and extracts from despatches from gov rnor at the Cape, , .T7 upon hat' 8ub.ect/% 1748- 1750 Extent of the frontier, with a view to mil itaryXL ce G. Galle. Whether a commandant at this place; if so, his dutiw and salary ; if civil duties 2'r2t"2i^^ 2.r';-"" """"^^' "'"'""''' '■''^' "'"""' ■^558/g,...o„;; '£;. Gambia. Amount of allowances paid to commandant und others at M'Carthv Island App. p. ,.__Amount of allowances paid by commissariat to assistantSmm a y- general and others at, App. p. 22. """-i-oiuiuissary- Cambia River, Settlement on. When the present settlement in the River Gambia first inade, /% ,3.4 Situation of the new colony to bo formed at Gambia, a Jwhether he natives likely to prove hostile to it, lla„ .3H.-.384 There are col atera advan ages to be derived from the formation of the colony on the (;ambia over extendin /tl^ erritory of Sierra Leone Hay .^Hs-.aHS— -Extent of force at Gambia. 7% T400 140,- [n point of salubrity, witness would prefer Gambia to the other set.lements and Fernando Po over Cape Coast Castle, /% 14,3. ,4,4 Cause of tl:e se tlement atGambia s rength of its garrison, and expense of its military works, FinJlauZh- I47r>— -I the garrison withdrawn from Gambia, there would 'be scarcely troons sutH- cient »or the protection of Sierra Leone, Dndia^, ,48. Advantages of the' sett el ments of Gambia and Sierra Leone in preventing the slave trade, and for the purposes of commerce, which could not be carried on without military protection, /Vw/^ 1537- GAiiRisoss, Colonial: 1. Caj)t of Good Hope. 2. Ceifio/i. 3. (iibraltar, 4. Malta. % ft. Ionian IslaiuU. ti. Papers laid before the Committee. 1 . Cape of Good Ihpe : Garrison at Cape Town cannot be reduced. Cole i8(,(i. ujuo, Ikll Hj-fi-iQr/]. 2. Ceylon: To what extent the garrison miijht be reduced. Uoli/uah •• J4.< Letter from John Lewis Mallett to John Lefevre, Esq. relative to garrison payments to ofhcers at Ceylon. Mp. p. 74 Statement prepared from the accountsT 1 e government ol Ceylon, for .83. showing the amount paid in one year by the colo «y o the olhcers of the garrison of Ceylon not being on the staff, slating how much paid to each according to his rank, App. p. 74-78. ' a. Gibraltar: Inconvenience of a large body of persons 'herein during fever.an.l expense occasioned by the establishment of a small village on neutral gronnd for the lecei.tion of the sick laj, 83 Amount of the garnson in 18.4, liissrlt .,;, Manner in which sick foreigners and others, endeavour to get settled in the garrison. Pum ■yr,. •i-.o-'dii Garrison healthy since the last yellow fever, M'Gr<.r„r 204-20(1 —Garrison trained to the use of guns, JrAKmore fia.o-fj-jg. 4. Malta : Complaints of the inefficiency of the garrison of Malta for its duties, n'luimore r..8- ■'■^VTT' '"",'"" T"",'i. " ^'''"""" '"'"^' •^""'posed of British tn>,.ps raise.l for service in Malta exclusively, WhUmore 5^,7-:,^^ General practice therein to tram the irar- rison to the use of guns, and whether with the consent of the cominanr onicers of iiifanlry regimenis, l*A//morp fi2,--(i.2a Comparison of the ttlective statC thereof in and from 1824 to i,-.2r„ and whethe, any reduction could be made therein. yVhitmore (,30_(,^(,— —Detail of the amount of duty taken by the garrison of Malta, Pnmu -o.,_ 7'-''-—" "'c ""iml'cr of men on dutv daily were .educed, the garrison might be;' but th- .Idierent works will not admit of rediution, P,:m„ 730, 73,-. If the garrison itduced, the Maltese f.ncibles must be incieabtd, /% 1,370. :>:>' Cofoniei; 1834.] OAR G I B [H7 (iitrimm — continued. 6. luninn hliinih : Amoiinl of force timt would be Kuflicicnt for garrisoning Corfu and Vido, Vremh 863- H-jH, f. I'apen laid before the Committee : Keturn of all pay, allowances, emoluments and salaries issued to officers of the mililary, garrison, medical and commissariat staff, and yf the ordnance department for i2inontlis ended 31st March 1K33 :-Gibraltar, App.p.^; Malta, W«. ,1-11 1 Ionian Islands, App. p. 13-17; Western coast of Africa, App. p. 20-23; (Jape of (.ood Hop,!, App. p. 28-32; Canada, App. p. 3()-4(); Nova Scolia. Newfoundland, &c App. p. 49-55; Bermuda, App. n. r,j.r,g ; Ceylon, App. p. (ii-Oi ; New South Wales yipp. p. 80-84 ; Jamaica and Honduras, App. p. 8(i-8() ; Windward and Leeward IsliUKis, App. p. i5-2()28 Number of men on duty at Colombo; nature of Iheir duties- the nuinliers cannot be reduced, 2fi29-2()44 Not more than sutficient troops to per- lorin the duties ie(iuired at Trincoinulep, 2645, 2G46 Not prudent in reference to existing numbers to reduce a battalion, 2(i48-2(i57 How far danger to be apprehende93 -Keductions have been carried as far as jirudent, 2()()4— Proportion of fll.ctives to non-eH'ectives in Ceylon, 2f)95-2(i99 Nature of civil duties performed 111 the fiuartcrinaster-generars department, 2700-2705 Civil engineer lately sent out IS principally tini)loyed in land surveying, 2707-2728 Necessity for two officers 111 the (|uaiterniaster-gent>ral'» department, 2729-274d Duties ii the adjutant- general's department not so severe as those of the (|uartermaster-geiierdl, 2747-2752 -- — Comparative expense of living in Ceylon and other parts, 2753-2780 Number ot mililary stations, and whttli.r necessary to have commandants at each; amount of (heir pay and dulies, 2781-2H4H Cause of extra allowance to oHicers in Ceylon over the other colonies, 2849-2H,V)- Increase in contingent allowances to rifle com- panies, 2857-2801 Whole of the medical stafl" necessary, 28G2-28G(>. (iinnALTAK: 1. Cienernlly. 2 l'(ii>en liiid befvie the L'ommittee. 1. (Ifiicriillij: Estimated population, //«// 74 Increase thereof, and inconvenience therefrom during lever, 82 83 Inhabilmits would not be allowttini.; tlicm to dtlVay u lar^'or portion of ihc niilil iiy expenditure, llm'/ ■J2;5^-'J234 liflti r to unite the oliiees of ifovernor and eonnnandi'r of llu; forces, lliii/ 2-2^<\-'2-2-,: NfccMiity for the aid-de-cainp to llie ijovt'rnor, lluli/oake 33U(J-i!33iJ— — Guvernoi- has no servants at the public expense, //«// •i^ijH-jtSHo. ;J. GiliKtltiir : Salary and CMioJuineiits of; tenure of his odirc, Uni) r,-S. 03 IVimd of his resi- dence; his absence on account of ill health by the Ki"n<^'s special ltav(', Uiii/ o-ia I'artictdars of |)rospectivo alteration rehilive fo'llie a|ipoinlineut and einohnm uts of the governor, llnii iS-i'j Claims imou the hospitality of the ;;overnor (jf (ubraltar, from Ins beiiii; oliliired to eniertiiin the Hriiisli (Irct and 'strani;ers, i'ltncli men of war, and foreij^ners of all descriptions, //(/)/ .)2-4t!. Government of Gibraltar one oi thi; most expensive, //'n/47 Reasons for supposin|j; there ure more claims on the hospitality of the governor ot (Jibrallar tliiui on the '^overno^ of Malta, y/ia/ 4H--5 No emolumunts fiom the leltiUL; ^^ardens received by the ollicer in command ; some minor ndvanta'^(s, as well as tin.' ;;overmiu iit eottavic, were taken from him upon the last revision ol' the (iibraltur istablishmc lit, llai/ ijn, i.;i Hills drawn by tlio Treasury are countersigned by the governor, and his pleasure taken on the estimate, Kimwles 303-30'i. 4. Mdllii: Salary, allowances and emoluments of the governor of Malta, Hay 1O47-1G54. 5. liiniiiii hianils , Diiliculty of one person continuing the ollices of governor ami military commandant, Ireiich Hji), 8H0 Opinion in favour of uniting the oflices of commander of the forces and lord high commissioner, Mapier (131), i,;;i Advantage of re-uniting the olMees of lord high commissioner and commander of the forces, and saving of exiiense tlierebv ««. iji A list of till' priiii.ipal ordnance stores at, in the year 1^31, and showing the value of the same, App. p. r)3.34- (iiviKiild. Amount ol allowances paid bv the ordnance lo depuly-slorekeeper and other otiieers at. App. /i.ij- Amount ol allowances paid by the commissariat to assistant eoimi'i^saiy-'_:eiieral and oilier ollicers at, App. p. ini Account of the aiiioiint |iaid by (ii..al Untain fur the military expendilnre ol each colony for one yi.n, u..eoiilini- to till' List 1 ■turns, App. p. 112, 113. (irtiiiillr. (Joloniffi ; \X;].\] onp. MAY ['59 (irenville. Amount of nllownncc [loid by cnmrnimariat to deputy-o«»i»tont cornmi»»«ry- "•rtifum. MiKsidniirifs having ^jot nmoni; the G iimdc tliiiii iiiuru lorniiihible, Vuk iHH(i-i8H8, H. iiiudc thi'iii (i'i(«f. Set! (Iiirrmm, 4 ii; the Griqiias, has given them more authority, and 1: I uua lliililiir. Amniint (it '•.illowanccs piiiil by the onliiaiicn to stor<:k(.'('|)i!r .ind othur olhcers at, ,4/1/1. /). 51 Anioiiiil of idlowiuict's, Sic. puitl by roiimiis.iuii.it to dt puty conimisHnry- ireneral mid oilier otticcrs ut, Apji. p. [,^, llnmliiiiitdtle. Whether u cnmninndnnt at this plaee ; il so, hiH diilirs and salary ; if civil diilns pfirorniiil, uiid whuthtr ullice iieeessary, .WcW; 'J31',, Jlriunt 2,^)1)1 -.'j''"> (iiisciii/m' jMi J. lUimliiiuhilte. Whether ;i c'diniiiaiiiluiit at liiis piarc ; if so, liis dutieti and salary ; if civil (luiiis |ii'it'oriiied, and whether ollice necessary, 'Viijj'iiell •i\\;,r,--\)i)l- Jliiiiliii;^, Lieut. -Colonel (:i'iir::c Judil. (Anal'-sis of his Kvidi'iice,)— Salary and diilieg of the storekeeper and depiily sttirc ki'tpiT, and extent << Whieli is on the lowt si scale, 504 Orders constantly received from the board In London to make rcdnetiouH in every dc|mrtment, ,001-50;;. Iliirrisiiiittoo. Whether a commandant at this place ; if so, his duties and salary ; if civil duties performed, and whether otHce necessary, Jloli/ntike 'iW^"}. Jfiii/, lidliirt H'l/lifim. (Analysis of his Evidence.)— F.xaniination upon the emoluments, duties and tenure of otiicu (jf ihe 'governor and |ieut( iiant-j^overuor of (jibraltar, a-o/)- l'j()-l:i lunolimients of the military secretnry, (io-'i4 Of the town-major, (ij, (K! Stalemeiit ot the amount of niililiiry force at (libraltar at (litlLrent periods, during peace and war, from 171.0 to iS;j4, '>7-7,> Necessity for k( epiiiii the nmount of force sulHcientIv hii;h, to |>revent inconvenience from disease ov'cuaioiud by epidemic fever, 77 Kelurn of elbclive strenu'tli would have been smaller if eiv,ii at an unhealthy instead of a healthy period of the year, 78-80 Wish of ihi! Secretary of State to leduce the nimiber of inhabitants, and precaution taken to prevent the increase of new residents, 8j-8.-, Manner of lettiui; land on the rock of (iiluakar by the Crown, 81), .S7 Kstablishment of the comtni-.-^anat department, SS, H() Employment of a small brii:, to enable the captain of the port to uxecute his duties, i|0-()a. |Seciui(l ll.\aiiiinalion.]—l'rii(luction of returns rtlative to the military and medical stall", and other matters of inforniatioii to the Coinmitlie, 11,0 Pay and allowances of the lieiitenanl-'^dvtrnor while attiiiii 11s eomniander of the garrison, 1 1'i-i 18 No reduc- liun in the general staif can Ije siiLji^ested, iii|. [Third I'.xaiiiiuitiou.J-- Proposals relative to tiansferrint; the civil medical department at Gibraltar to the superintendence of the staif surgeons of the ipiarar.line establish- ment, 4;j(), 440 Duties |ierformed by Ihe inspector of health, and opinion in favour of the civil and military medical duties' beiu'.;- separated, 4.(1-4)8 Salary aiwl emolu- ments of till' inspector" of health, 4.(1), 4,-,0' iJelicacy leipiiied in the administration of the (piaraiiline rennlations, 4,-51, jlio Arranpieiucnls entered into with foreii,'!! pons for the uovermueiit of tlie (piaranliiie, (.■■j<)-l''4 /\d\!iiita<^e of u permanent inspector of health, 4(1.",. [Fourth I'Aainiiialion, ) -Ionian States were after the war placed under the protec- tion of the Hritish (iovernmeiit, I104 Copy of Articles \. Jc vi. between (jreat llritain and Russia, iiie., respectm',' the Ionian Islnnils, siuned at Paris, ,r,ih November 181,0, lli)(i No ('(Uivenlion was made; the constitiitiiuial chart (jf the States was considered as supplviie.' its place, ll()7-ll()fi Ditfereiiee belW(;ii the l'aii;lish transla- tion and the oriLcnial Italian chart, l'20()-l'.;o3 Aulluirily under which certain ex- l>enses have been incurred for luiblarv works; amount ol estimate, and to what amount inir the wholt! excieded, I ■2(i4-lJ(i(| Arrangements that have been made fur briiigii expenditure of the ioniaii Islands more immedialily under tlie control of Pailiameni, and settlim.^ the sum to be paid by the Ionian Islands for their military [irolection, l-:io 12:0 Not inteiuicd that the "troops these -hould he nuiilitaiiuil '•olely out nf the revenues of the Ionian Mauds, ia2i-li:4— -.Militia has never been embodied ; it was doubted whether it would answer the purpose for which re;:ular troojis inij^ht be ap- pointed, f:ati-r:;ii The lin.^ilish traushilion if the cliait is the one recognized by the Cohiinal ilepariment, I2;5'.:-1 -;!>*• M Amount 130] H A Y. [Military Kxpenditin?, Hay, Robert IVilliam. (Analysis of his Evidence) — continneil. Amount of charge which the Ionian government rende. ;1 themselves liable for erecf- ing fortifications, 1239-1241 British soldiers employed in building the fortifications, and how paid, 1242-1249 Period when the buildings are expected to be finished, 1 2=0— No provision in the Italian chart for varying the arrangement respecting military expenditure, 1252 Troops beiii^ employed "in ^he building, does not ie"quire an increased number for the service of the Islands, 1- 5, 1254 Total expense of this country for the military defence of the Ionian Islands, 1255, 12,56 Difference in the amount of the staff during the time of Sir Frederick Adam, and at present, 1257-12(52 Amount of the salary of Sir Frederick Adam, and that of the present lord high com- missioner, 121 -1268 Payof Major-general Sir Alexander Woodford, 1269-1271 Proposed reductions bv Sir Frederick Adam and Lord Nugent with reference to the military staff, and to what extent entertained by the authorities at home, 1272-1278 Application of Lord Nugent for increased allowance refused ; his salary could not be decreased, 1279-1285 Distribution of force in the Islands, 1286, 12S7 Proposi- tion of Sir Frederick Adam as to the reduction of the commissariat was abandoned. 1288-1295. ' [Fifth Examination.]— Salary of the governor of Sierra Leone, and why the amount does not appear in the nulitary return, 1559 Government of Malta disconnected from the Ionian Islands in 1824, 1563 Present number of troops at Malta, ir,64 Amount of the French garrison at the surrender, 1565 Variation in the effective force at Malta and the Ionian Islands since 1815, 1566 Variation in the amount of the Malta fencibles, 1567 The two governments have directions to aid each other, 1568 -- — State of Turkey and Greece necessary to be taken into consideration in estimating the amount of force necessary at Malta and the Ionian Islands, 1568, 1569 If the garrison at Malta reduced, the Maltese fencibles must be increased', 1570^- Extent to which that corps niiglii be increased, and whether eciually efficient with British troops for Malta duty, 1571-1574 Doubts as to a Malta regiment being raised fur service in other [)arts of the Mediterranean or the West Indies, 1575 Comparative expense of the Maltese fencibles and Uritish troops; limited service of the former, their duties and distribution, i57'i-iS92. Proposal for assimilating the other colonial corps to the Malta fencibles objected to by the Colonial Secretary, 1593 Destitute state of the lower orders at Malta; works propos. d to be erected for employing them, to be paid for out of the surplus of the colo- nial revenue. 1594-1600 Population of Malta independent of the troops and acci- dental inhabitants, 1603-1605 Malta ought not to pay a larger sum than she does for her military defMue ; amount paid for that purpose, besides bearing the expenses of the civil governmenl, 1611, 1612 Diminution of expenses under Sir F. Ponsonby. and surplus revenue in consequence, 1613-1617 Amount of force in Malta from 1819 to 1821, inadequacy thereof, and cause of the increasein 1826, l6lH-i(i3M Examination upon the revenue and expenditure of Malta, and upon the debt due to Government, i(i39-i64G Emoluments of the governor of Malta, i()47-i654 No reduction cail be made in the general staff at Malta, 1655 Maltese corps are not available for removal out ot the island, 1659-16(12. [Sixth Examination.]— Period when the Cape came into possession of Great Hiitaiii. 17*4 Amount of ioice there at its capture in 1795 and i8o(), and amount necessary tobemainlaiiRd, 1714-1750 System adopted by the Dutch goveninient for repressin-' incursions ot natives, aud how far their regulations are still in force, i7-,i-l7-,4- Pro^ position from Sir Lowry Cole for increasing the establislimrnt of the Ca|)e corps, 17VJ- 17.J7 — —Establishment of force wanted by Sir .lames Craig was in consequence of tile war with France and Holland, and the hostility of the inhabitants, who are well-disposed at present, l7,-,8-1765. 171)8, i7(i;j Advantages of the burgher force, 1766, 17(17 Salaries and allowances of the goveiiijrsat the Cape from its capture to the present time, »77.'5 ^''> further reductions can take place 111 the statl'. 177(1 Finances have not paid the civil establishment, and have caused prospective reductions to be acted 1777-1780. on. [Seventh Examination.]— Amount of Dutch force in the island of Ceylon at the period ol Its capture in I795,and anioimt of force employed in the capture, and that necessary to be maintained for the se.uniy of the i.sland, 2197-2214 Increase of territory and population resullinu: from the unnex.ition of the Kaiidyaii i)roviiice, 2215- — Numbers of the Ceylon native regiments, niaiuier in which oliiccied, an-l general particulars as to, 2216-2218 — Amount of military expendiluK! now defraved by the colonial ^overii- nient, 2220 -Troops are jirovidcd by officers appointed by the Vivcrnor. the expense bf-ing wholly defrayed by the colonial governmeiit. 2-21, 2222- — Population of Ceylon in 1823 and at present, 2223, 2224 Salary and emoluments of governors, and reduc- tion therein, 2225-2234. Force considered necessary by Colonel Agnew for defence of Colombo durin.r the war with Fiance. 2237-2240 Extent of force while the liidi:! ('.".n!;.:it)v : why It was Wrlluinuvn fr island 111 possession of the liist •[■••liiy ; wiiy ii was WiliUirawii iruiii iriiir (ioniiiiioii, 2243-224^ liellcr to unite the offices of governor and commander of the forces, 224(1-2252 He stall' olliccis receive such lai|;e island allowances, and whether the liui apply to officers in the V\ e.-t Indus, 2-'53-2259 Scale of ^\tra allosv- leason wl;y same reasons woulil , 'i\l Scale ol isl.iiid allowances paid by ihe island o( Ceylon, with particular allowance to each rank, 2260 Ev anccit Colonies ; 1834.I HAY HOB [131 Hay, Robert William. (Analysis of liis E\\i\ev\ce)—r.onlinued, ances to the Company's troops are paid by the Company, .J261 Native troops require more staff officers, from their beinf; much scattered and of different tribes, .22G2, "26-1 Salary and duties of the deputy .piart. niiaster-general, and whether the office unne- cessary, oo(,4_..2(„j— -Unties and salaries of the medical staff, 2270-2275 Staff officers perlorming civil duties do not receive additional pay, 2277. [Eidith Examination.]-Letler from Mr. Secretary Dundas to the Chairman of the t-ast India Company, stating reasons for transferriiii; the island of Cevlon to the British Government, and answer thereto, 2H71 Ditficulty of ascertaining 'the expense of the colony while in possession o the Last India Company, 2H72 Military allowance at Ceylon under the Company the same as at tlir.r other territories, 287s -Island allow- ances were formerly double, •.S74 Un» from Sir Robert HoVton, remonstratinK against discharging his native h-.aduien ; an.l report thereon, 2875. 2877 Governor has no servants at the public expence, 2«7a-2«Ko Military surgeon attached to the governor s establishment also discharges his duties as assistant surgeon, 2881 2882 Attendance of the medical stall on civil servants, 2883, 2884 Letted from Sir K. W. llorton to Lord Godench, relative to the reduction in the medical staff 288^; hxtra nay of the governor's surgeon for that duty, 2886, 2887. 281)1, 28q2. 280;;- 1-itlle inducement to private practitioners to settle in the island. 2888-28(10 -Under the new order the governor will pay for medical attendance out of his own pocket 2806 -—•Communication between the Coionial-office and War-office as to the state of the Cey on regiment, 2897— P„rtie.,lars as to sending out a civil engineer, and manner .n which It win relieve the duties of, pi,,, teiinastei-general,28!,8, 2899 Communication between the War-office and the Colonial-ollice, as to the reduction of one British remment 2901 ---Statement showini; the relative state of health of the troops of Ceylon. Ionian Islnnds, Mauritius and Jamaica, 2904. j , a.i [Ninth Exair.ination.]-Colony of Sierra F.,.one transferred to Government in 1807 bv tlie Sierra Leone Company, i;ji:j- When the present settlement in the River Gambia hrst made 1314 Mixed Commission Court removed to Fernando Po in 1828 ni-- 1318 Charge of forts on the Gold Coast transf.ired to a body of merchants' nin- 1323 How far same system might be adopted as regards Sierra Leone, i-^a^ iq68- '374 Variation in the amount of force maintained for the protection of those settle- ments, I32;j-I3i8 -Pie>ent force not sufficient on the Western Coast of Africa if renewed hostilities take place in the neiuhbouihoud of Bathurst, r^zn Extent of troops at Fernando I'o ; oideis have goiiif out for abandoning the'isiand i^qo I ariiculars as to project of locating the liberated Africans on other parts of the coast "332-1337 ['[ «hat the Royal African Corps formerly and at present composed' •339-1347-- — ^'1 what the militia composed; eflieieiicy theVeof, l348-i3.-,2 Militarv pensioners have been turned to very little account, 1353, ,3,r4 Improvement in the niilitia would not supersede the necessity of keepiiii; up the present military force n-r Governors of Sierra Leone have generally been military men: names of those appointed since 181(1, i3,V>-i3'ii Variation in the amount of their salaries 1362- >3<'5: Mihtia not nppheahle to continued service, 1375 Extent to which kid- napping of liberated Africans takes place, i37H-'j\. •> llea/lh. Statement showing the relative state of health of the troops of Ceylon Ionian Islands, Mauritius and Jamaica, //«« 2904 Sickliness of regiments on their first arrival at Malta ; continuance of sickness of i)r,\\i regiment, which occasioned other regiments to be overwo,k..l, /V«;,y 714-722^-^ I'nhealthy state of troops in the Ionian Islands from bad barracks, and too much night duty, \„pin .(ij-qiCi-L-Sierra leone preferable 111 point of health to Capo Coast Cattle, Gambia or I'ernando Fo, lUen'karne tlrlig,i,laml. Amount of money paid by Great Hritain for military expenditure of each roliuiv, so far as I hr same r:i|i lie si'iinrat"''' '•^t"tf'il (nr m r », - i .. ,. 1. r .p..!ui. .. ..i,..it-P«6-89. Horton, Sir liofiert. Letter from Sir Robert Horton, remonstrating against discharging his native headmen, and report thereon, Hai/ 2875-2877 Letter from Sir Robert W. Horton to Lord Goderich, relative to the reduction in the medical staff, Woy 2885. llospitnlity. See Governors, 2. Lkutenant-Govermr cf Gibraltar, Hospital. See CwiV Hospital. Naval Hospital. Hottentots. A battalion < ' Hottentots might be raised, but nothing would be gained by their mounting guard with British troops, Cole 1921, 1922. 1929-1932. Hoiisloiin, Sir William. Applications have been received from, complaining of the inade- (luacy of his piy as lieutenant-governor of Gibraltar, Hoy;]'^ Amount of emoluments was liardiv settled till after the appointment of Sir William lloustoun, ilai/;\H Amount of his pay and allo»unces as lieutenant-governor wliilu acting as coiiiinander of the gar- rison, llai/ t 16-1 iH. I. Iiifantri), Cape of Good Hope. The infantry is not more than sufficient. Hell 10(13, •9f'4- Ionian hiand. Inhabitants are generally well disposed towards the British Government, Napier 902 "v good government in time of peace inhabitants may be attachtil to the British Governnitiit, Napier 1012- How far lilt treaty for the protection of the Ionian Klands by the British would be sufhcietitly performed by the peace establishment reconi- mciuied by witness, Napier 1002 Advantage of the Ionian Islands in a political and com- mercial point of view, Napier 1020 In the event of an attack, the military force must lie stationed in Corfu, and the other islands left to themselves, llutUJell 1072-1081 The other islands would be lost unless reinforcements sent out, Radsdell 1089, 1090 If an eniMiy obtained possession of the other i^lallds, they could only be expelled by a superior force, RudHlell 1082, 1083 Small islands might be retained possession of by an enemy, though the Uritish retained military possession of Corfu, lluilsile'l iifii- 11(13 Ionian States were after the war placed under the protection of the British fiovernment. Hay 1194 »-'o|iy "f Articles v. and vi. bclwe. Great Britain and Russia, &c. respecting the Ionian Islands, signed at Paris 5 iNovember 1815, i/«y 1196. No convention was made ; the constitutional chuit of the states was considered as sup- plying its place, llai/ I i<)7-l l()9 Difference between the English translation and the original llaliaii chart, Hay 1200-1203 -Arrangements that have been made for bring- ing the «liole expenditure of the loninii Islands more inimedialely under the control of Parliament, and ''ettling the sum (o be paid by the Ionian Islands for their military pro- tsctioii, //«v lJln-1220 Not intended that the troops there should be maintained solely out of the revenues of the Ionian Islands, Hai/ 1221-1224- The English trans- lation of till' eliart is the one recogni/,e>m' 2437-244,-, Scale of island allowances paid by the Island of Ceylon with particular allowance to each rank, Hiiif 2260 Extra allowances to the Company's troops are paid by the Company, lint) 2261 Expenses of living at Ceylon, showing the necessity of the extra allowances, and comparison with the West Indies, Brown 352.0-2502- Cause of extra allowance to officers m Ceylon over the other colonies, GascH^He 2849- 28,-,,-, Increase in contingent allowances to rifle companies, liiiacuipie 28,J7-28lu Military allow ance at Ceylon, under the Comnanv, the same as at their other territories, llai) 2^73 -Island allowances were formerly double, Hay 2874 Statement of the colonial allowances paid to the military officers at Ceylon, as compared with the esti- mated expense per month of allowance in kind, as issued to military officers at other foreign stations, &.C., App, p. fiG, C7. Ithaca. Amount of allowances paid to storekeeper at, App, p. 17. I Jaffna and Jaffnapatnm. Whether commandants at these places ; if so, their duties and salaries; it civil business performed, and whether offices necessary, llulyoake 2309. 2311, Jinmm 'ir^r/i, G'«sc«y»(' 2788, Tuffhetl zy^r^-'^Cji^'j. Jamaica, Comparative statement of the total annual value of the several military allow- ances issuuble to each rank of stud and regimental officers, in addition to their pay, af Jamaica, according to the present establishment, distinguishing those at which a coloni'.l couimuted alliiwanre is paid in money, and those at which, with the exception of lodgin;:s and black servants' money, the same are issued in kind, App. p. 72 Return of the numbers and distribution of the eti'ective force, officers, non-c>inmissioned officers, and rank and tile of the Hritish army, including colonial corps, in each year since 1815, includin;r andlery and eii^iiieers, App. p. 8,-, Return of all pay, allowances, emolu- ments and salaries issued to officers of the military, garrison, medieal and commissariat Rlati', and of the uidiiaiice department, for the 12 months ended 31 March 1833, ^PP- /'• K(j-H9. Statement Hhowinu' the relative stale of health of the troops of Ceylon, Ionian Islands, Mauritius, and Jamaica, llai) 2911.1. K. Kaiiilii. Whetlier a commandant at this place; if so, hisdulies; if civil duties performed, ami whether the otlice necessary, llutfivake 231 S, 2319, Unnni i;fii, iuiHoipie •l'^li\ inlfnelt ■li.p\~ii.){\.\ — -Amount of pay and idioWiinces made by the commissariat to dejiuty-asaistunt eomiiiihaaiy and other olliters at, App. p.di). ■'i?"'' t i Kingston. 134] K I X I.I F, [Mililary F.\-|i(>iiditiire, Kingstou. Amonntof,',llowa„crs,mi.l»ostorekoopermulothr.-.,(r„.,.,s ;it A,w n ii ao ''tlSse^^'i;!!.;^::^''' ■""■'^ '^ ""■ ~---t t.. .U,,...y..ssis.ant co,„mis. Know/es. Francis. (Analysis of l.is nvi,l,.„ce.)-Assi,stnnt commissary-general at Gibraltar 1, ,lTr """"' "J t''«""""';-^""^^' ^'^^ir, .17.— Nature of the contracts Co tl e army and ordnance •218-221-— K.xt.nt ofthc supply olsalt and fresh meat, and cost thereo? a better description, and at less cost, than from Spam, J^.-o.j^lL.Salt meat bein7sen fom England, ,s serve.l out as a matter of course, 235— I'tssihihty cTcouso "S t%t;!;nL "o ';.'%t ^^s'/'r "'"'rV '"• ''? ■^"'•'"y "•' P^-isions,\nt doXi a 'tf tlie saving 2; (.-247— -Slatement showing the comparative expense of supplvinn- the garrison ot Gibraltar with salt and fresh meat, and salt meat only for one yearCf-— Supply of salt provisions to the navy would be very small, there ben 'Som more than one ship here ; difliculty of ;:r ' '""" '-r""'";:'--'-"'""^;l I."n.leyto Mr. Secretary Iluskisson ;!h^^::s^b^r^2t]i!*;;:^:"^^^ "' '""^ " ''- ^^'^-^ '-'^-^ - ^^-'^^ Liberated Africans, Sierra Leone. Particulars as to project of locating the liberated Africans on other parts of the coast, an.l whether ,t vloiihl be attended with" nvsavS place /i, V I3,l)-I3,8 Not advisable t,. ol,i,mi hb.rated Alricaus at a lower rate of pay, hmllav .4.V2-i4:;.3-.- -Extent to winch tlure ,s sufficient g,„„„d for .'reater occu pat.on ,1. Sierra Leoue tor hheraled Afncaus, /,.,//.,, i4.io-,>i.j__Ki.7 . " ,, n^ d prevad to a considerable extent at Sieira I., one. /VW/.y Uji -.48,-!^ JS a e instances of liberated Africans selling each other as slaves, 4,//% ^.■^,:^, xr^ir, Liberia American colony of Liberia has not remilar .ooMeMon ui.h the government of the I'mted States; there are no re.Milar Iroups there. /J.n, ,„,n^,.,,)o*l!!I."r^"> . colony of Liberia supported by subscriptions. Ji,h„„i ,.,;„,„4 to.he' government aid wMhe.r proceedings w.,h the natives are likely „. prJoke hostilities. >1W% .49" I..e,Ucnnn!.(,.,-^„nr,,,aihr„/t,,>, His pay and rmotuiueuK. Ho, ,.3-17 H.s nav and allownncns while acting as commander of the garrison, //„,/ , ti-, ,V DiftVr'^L of opinion between the (Jomniissioners uiid Secrelarv of S|.,i,. > !.,,„ . 1 ^^""^'^'-"'•'-.o' the o,«ce of lientenaut-governor, //., 24-^^1::':':",:; 1^ ; ^ ri;.:r:;"lX lieutenant-goveinor, y/„^ ,5, 20-— Al.niorandum in de.ailof' ,lie pijsnu and pn^^^^^^^ Bularics J' .* Cul. if*34- I 1 1; M A C [135 J .teiitenaut-dovenior nf Gibraltar — continued. salaries and allowances of the gnvernor and lieiilonant-govrrnor, llai/ iy-<2g Lieu- tenaiit-Lfovcrnor is peit'ormin<; ail tlin duties of fiovernor, but his pay is not sufficient for so f'ief|nent an exercise of hospitality as that expected from the governor, /iay 30-34 Peihunal stairoflhe lieutenant governor, llui/ 39. Ijgk Dragoons, Ceylon. Schedule showing the saving by the reduction in the establish- ment of the Ceylon light dragoons, App. p. 73. ^.iird IJi^h Commissioner of ihe Ionian hlands. Not necessary for ensuring respect in (he natives that the lord hi.;li comiiiissioner should live in an expensive manner, Napier 935- 937' 'J74~076 His salary, lliuhddl 1063-1065 His salary might be reduced if he were subject to privations he ought not to be, Hiulsdelt 1167-1 log Amount of salary of Sir Fieaid by the ordnance to storekeeper and other officers at, App. p. 98 Amount of alliiwancis made by the commissariat to assistant com- missary-general and utiii'r olliccrs at, App. p. 102. i»/ l.unilei/, Lieutenant-C^ohmel. Extraet (lilted r.;th .luiie 1828, /I/71. /). 26. of a despatch from, to Mr. Secretary lluskisson. M. Maberly,Co\mv\ A., m.v. (Analysis of his Evidence.)— Clerk of the ordnance-officr, i-2i)(} I'articulars as to esiiinale for the fortifications at Vido, the expense of which is borne by the Iiiuian Islands, 1297-1299- En<^ineer8 pay charged to this country, but they must be there whether tliey are employed lu the woiks or not, 1299, 1300 Amount ol working pay per muiitli paid to the soldiers employed in the works, 1301- j.jf).- ..\innunt already paid; amniiiit of estimate, and probable increose, 1305-1307 ' i't,Tiud witiiiii which the wdiks nuiy be expected to be finished, 1308 Extent of barrack accoinmoilalion m the Ionian Islamls, 1309-1312. M'driiior, Sir .himi's. (Analysis of his I'.videiice.)— Medical staff at Gibraltar at present ju !:i"ilier smaller tiian usual in the tune of peace, 1H2-186 The prevalence of the cholera and vellow lever in the iitii;hl)oinliooil of (iibraltar cause the necessity for the present establishment, 1H7 There are smiie civil practitioners of an inferior degree, such as .lews and Spaniards, in the town, i«S Increase of the establishment has always been supported by the governors from the necessity, 011 account of the civil popiiliitiun, and of luuiiig Diiusji olhcers, i8ij Applications very lately that some 570. t 3 medical 136] M A C M A L m '< [Mililiiiy F'.xpendilurc, M'Grigiir, Sir Jiiiiiis. (Amilysis of his Evidence.)— ronOHMerf. uie.licil oflireis nt home on leave might be sent. out. 190-194 From the snmllness of the garrison whatever medical practitioners are there mi^ht he summoned to-reiher m a very sliort time, 19,-,, if)!) Advisable to unite the oiKces of cliief of the <|iiarantiiie and chief of the medical staff, 198-201. ' There is no ..veyor at Gibraltar; there is a deputy purveyor actinjr i,s clerk who is entitled to hall-pay, 202 Gibraltar very healthy ; doubts as to the disease prevalent there being an imported-disease; garrison healthy since the last yellow fever "04-206 .V.edical stores, such as medicine, instruments, i.andnges, !tc. are sent froni this country; but wme, oil and spirits are purchased there, 208 Medical staff attend the civil department.s as a matter of duty, and attend also the pauper population, for whom the civil hospital would not be larg(; enough in case of any contagious disease 'iOQ— 213. " ' Maci/uaniv lliirl/oiir App. p. 83. Madawalnteme. Whether a commandant at this place; if so, his duties: if civil duties pertormed by him, and whether office necessary. Tiifitell 2980, 2981. Amount of pay and allowances made by commissariat to officers at, Malays. 2390- Ilnw far any difficulty in recruiting Malays Tor Ceylon regiment, Um 238(1 —Malay troops are erjual to the British for many parts of garrison duty Brown 25i2-2.3l5__Advantnge o( Malay troops for the Ceylon regiment over other native troops, and in point of health over British. G,moi,ne 2(ioG-2(ii4 Difficulty of rocruitmg Malays far the regiment since the reduction of pay and bounty, and preventinK the estublishmeiu of boys being kept up. Grwo^HP 2f)i5-2G28. Malleit, John LcwU. Letter from Mr. John L. Mallett to John Lefevie, Esq. relative ii> garrison, payments to officers at Ceylon, App. p. 74. Maha. Less general intercourse with Malta than Gibraltar, Uuy 50 Is the rendezvous ol the Medilerianeai. fleet, //,;y 51 Foreign ships of war are more lil^ely to visit iHalta, 7y„,/ ,-;j- In the existing establishment there is suffi. ieiit employment for persons 1- the different oihces, /l7/,W.rf ,r,8fi-.-,9o Government of Malta discon- nected (,om the onian Islands m 1824. Hay 1563 Tlie Governmenis of Malta and the Ionian Islands have directions to aid each other. Uuy I5(i8 Population thereof independent ol troops and accidental iiihabilanls. U'"'■ '>'7-''2;5-— ll|em,y ■jM-yr,y Tluv are a.lapte.l for the srmcc^ would be as eflicieut on other stations ; but wouhl object to leave Malta, /V,/«y Formation of the Maltese feiicibles ; amount of force, and nature of duties, iV„,Aw 804-80,,- Difficulty of getting the Maltese to enlist for service out of th,. island I Met 811. 8,(,— ExcelkM.y of the Maltese corps tn the purposes lor which applied" adviintiige of laiMiiga siinilai buttalioii for garrison dunes, /V™.// S.j,, 8'i ^^Pfu-es at which MaKe.se would be williiiu to srrve fur a limited period, /V./W/ M...>.h..„1_ ^a^latlon in the ainount of llu .Malta fenciblrs, //»,■/ l.-.H? fcAtent to whic'tl th-.t corps niigfit he increased, and whether er|ually elhei-nt with British troops for Malta •'• ' "■", ' V,'"",'"'"' 1^""'""'"^ '"■' M'lHa rrginunt beini; raised for service m otiier |K,r sof the Medlteiiaiuan or West liidi.s, lln, 1^7,- -(.ompaialive expense of tl'c Maltese tencibles a,„l lintish troops ; limited service of the foimer; thur duties and .llslnbufion. Hay l^^G-ir^^yl I'ronosaj f,,r assimilatUi.,' the o.h. ,• raloni.! e,,,,,. t, the N a ,a lenc.bles objected to by tii,. Colonial Secretary IJou . ^.3 --They a en avinlal.lr for removal out of Ihe island, //,„/ 1 (I.-,,-, (i(i... ' ^ "'"^ i"eyaiLiiol Maltese l,„,„ 315-321 Increase of the establishment has always been supported by the "overnors, on account of the civil population, and the necessity of having British officers, M'GW"or'l8o Ajipliciitions very lately that some medical officers at home might be sentoiTt, M'Grigur 190-194 From the smalUuvs of the garrison, whatever medical practitioners there are might be summoned together in a very short time, M'Vrt^nr 195, 196. Medical Staff: 1. Cape of Good Ilopt. 2. Ceijhn. a. (jibraliar. 4. Sierra I^one. 5. Papers laid before the Cummitlte. 1. Cape of Good I lope : A lar<'e medical staff is necessary, from the force being much divided, and there being a difficidtv in getting private practitioners, /.V// 2012, ••013 Duties of the medical officers occasionally but slight, Di/te 2029-2032 Constitution ot the medical stall, and how far necessary, /)(/<•<' 2033-2043 Distribution ot medical ofhcers, am ot what their duties consist, /V* 2044-2049 Whether any reduction could be made m the medical staff at Cape Town, D>/ce 2050-2052 -Period of the year that is most un- healthy, and .iumber of patients during that time, Ih/ce 2089-2099--—^ the regimental surgeons are complete, which is seldom the case, the medical establishment might l>e reduced, Dyce 2105-21)4. a. Ceylon: Duties and salaries of the medical statl, llayii-;n-i2-]r^ How far the present num- ber of medical officers are nicessary for the garrison, Uolyoake 2297-2300 Necessity or a numer..us modic.l slatf, from number of miliCiry stations, L,we 2495,249<>. ^*''""» ,.,,, Whole of the medical staff lucessary, Gascofine 28f)2-28(,f,_-Attendance ot .'he ii.ed.cal staff o.i eiv.l servants, Uay 28H3 2HS4--- Letter fio... N.r R. W. Horton to Lord Godcrich, relative to the reduction t.i Uie medical staff. Hay 28H5. X Gibraltar: Comoarative amount of the medical staff at ( iibraltar at present, and from 1 795 *» 1^' ^- .ndrfinnnnei it might be reduce.!^ />« -7" .ll^-^l'--!;!^,^ P^-'^^;^ ..,.. under the .harue of (lie niedi.al >talt, or to atu iid u!." i.. .'Hj may 00 (.a i.u, i y.« '■;. " .„( 1 e 0I the regular me.lic.d staff . oiild undertake the duties of the medical /iwr.r It the head of the .|T,ar.,it„ie d.,M,tmeiit. />« ,48-153— M"'>-H-- >" which the i, ; ( Ir tar is d.v.d.'d into distn 'ts. ,11 oider .IimI th.. ,;.rris„.i asMstaut-surgeons irimUhe pauper population, /'vm 3.3-3^7— ^'-l practitioners do not affi^d .-,7»- ' •♦ A * I' 138] MED M !•: I- [Military r..\j,enditurL', Medical Staff— 3. GihraUar—conUnued. their services gratuitously, i V 33" Manner in wliicli the poorer classes .voulil be provided with medical attendance if the assistanc- of the staff surgeons wts v .thdrawn Pym 331-335 Character and description of the medical men of the stalf, /\/«j yjfi -- — Proposition for doin;; away with the present division (' the town into districis, and the oflicers attendant on them, and in what manner the poor would he supplied with trratuitous assistance, i>« 352-35« Medical staff' ut Gibraltar at present is rather smaller than usual in the time of peace, ;U'Gr(>r i82-i8(; They attend the civil departments us a matter of duty, and also the pauper population, M'Grigor •io()-2i3. 4. Sierra Leone: The medical staff' should be increased, FiiiMii/ ijjH. 5. Papers laid he/ore the Cowmillee : Return of all pay, allowances, emoluments and salaries issued to officers of !lie military garrison, medical and commissariat staff', and of the ordnance department for i- months' ended 31st March 1833 : viz. Gibraltar, A,,p. p. 3 ; Malta, App. p. 9-1 , ; Ionian Islan.ls App. p. 13-17 ; Western Coast of Africa. App. p. io-oij ; Cape of Good Hope. At,,, p. 28-32 ; Canada, App. p. 36-4*! ; Nova Scotia, Newfoundland. &c , ^pp. p jn.-cr • Bermuda, ilp7>. p. 57-.59 ; Ceylon, App. />. ()i-(i,o; New South Wales, y//m. ,,. 80-84 ,' Jamaica and Honduras, App. p. 91-10;}; Windward and Leeward Islands, yl,m. p. qil 103; Bahamas, il/)/). p. 105, loC ; Mauritius, ylpp. />. 108-110. Medico/ Stores. Medical stores of spirits, oil and wine should be supplied to the rrnrrisoii of Gibraltar from the Mediterranean, and not sent from London, I'l/m i(y> ifyi Medical stores, such as medicine. instriiniPnts, l.andai{os, &C. are sent (Vom this country but wine, oil and spirits are purchased there, M'Grigor 2u8. are entitled to receive medicines from tin Medicines. All persons in the government garrison store at Gibraltar, Pj/in 1 jj. Mediterranean. Advantages possessed by soldiers strviii>; in the .\I( ditrriaiioaii over other colonies, "/"/morf ,-,73-.-,7(i Ti,)op> miseil fr,r service in the Me.").j .Mihtia not appliiahle to coiitiniiud service, //<;(/ I37r, Militia are suliuient lor the pu. poses tor»buh thiy ;>re used, but could not act nn pcrmanpnt duty; their stien-th and pay; and why not advisable to increase them, Findlaii 1434- '■^'"''rr ' ilotbed and maintained at the expense of the colony, the "revenues of which aie not sufficient to |iistil'v an increase of force, Fiiidlay i45()-i459 Militii l)arllvofli(eie.n)y coloured pcopl., but they would not be lit lo receive the commis- sions 111 the colonial corps, li/enlunne itigo i()97. •■"'''^- " ' Mncd •4"! M l\ N AT [Military l-^xptixlitiiru. Mi ted Ciiiiiiiiissiun Court. Mixed Cominiitioii court removol to Fi-rnaiulo Vo in i8a8 j (lit* liiiicf l)i;iw«'tii itiuiilSicrrii Lfonc, luul iivorii^..' |>.isH.ine, //<«/ liJl^i-l^lH. Mortiilili/, !Su-rrii l-cune. Mortality very grciit on the tiist sirrivul of liburutcil Ariiuuiu, t'imllini l.'jlti. Muliitloes, Siirra Lroiic. Tlii'ri! wuiilJ bt (lilliiuilty i" otliffriiii; ri'niiiientH with MiihittorM from tlieir want i>t capiu'ity, /iW/(ii/ i.W^-'Mti- latloes at Sierra Leone, Ukiikiiiiic 170^-1711. -Had iimrul cliarui'tur ol tlie Mil- I N. Napier, Colonel CliHrlt-H. (AnalyHls of his I'Lvidenue.)— InspectDr of tlu> Ionian militia, 8;)8, 8i»(|- — Inliabiliints generally are well !I7' Unluaitliy siale of the troops, IVuni had barracks and too MUicli n\.;lit duly, ill;)-!)"' Oilier hiiiidini^s iiiinht he a|i|iro|)naled as barracks with a s.iviim of e\|>eiise, i)l<)-i)2i Aniiniiit ot jfarrison necessary for C'e()lialonia in the time of peace, and li) what purposes it would he applied, ;)jj-i|i7, i)i)(i j)l!() Opinion in favour of iinitinL; tlie ollices of coniuiander ol the forces and lord hi<^h com- missioner of the Ionian Islands, i);!i), il;(l Not necessary lor iiisiiiinm respect in the natives that the lord lie^h coniuiissioner should live in an expensive manner, |i;j,",- 1)1)7. i)74-il7l> Heuimeiils in the .Meihterr.inean under vigilant udiceis may be kept III as jiood a stale of discipline us in England, thoui;li the cheapness of wine makes it more dillicult, «i;jj)-i)4J. Ohjeclion to raising; troops in this coiinlrv lor service in ihe Medilerraiieaii to act us a colonial corps ; reason lor olijictiii^, !)^;)-!)^') ^" necessity for the same ipiaiitity of duty biiii'^i kepi up if the troops weie leduced, !l7^;,!)7;i — • — I'roportion of ru--t to that on };uard necessary for soldiers at Corfu, and 111 the service 'generally, i)77-<)H'2 linproveineiil of .\l.dt<;se Iroul systeiiiatic trealinent in the l-,laiul of Cephaloiiia, ()IS()-()()0. [Second Kxamination.J — Circnnistances that are lo he considered before answerini^ what extent of force may lie necessary to protect Vido and the ('astle of Oorfn from iitiiiip (if muiii; amount of |)eaee eslablishnieiit necessary, <»i)l-!|i).", How far the treaty for Ihe protection of Ihe Ionian [slands by the jiritish would be siillicieiitlv per- formed by the peace estahlislinient reeoimuended by witness, loo'j -— — I'urther exanii- lialicui upon the number of men necessary for the defence nf Corlii, uni;j-li)i 1 ]\y }jood tioveiniuent in time of |ieace the inliabitanls mii;lit be attached lo the Urilisii tiovernment; ami in the event of a projected invasicui the uariison mii;hl he reinhuced from M.dla. 101 J, l()e!)-i":j;j- — —Period witliin which a hostile lorce could reach the Ionian Islands; and period it would lake to send reinlorceiuents IVtun lae^land or Malta, 10I3-IOI!)— — Advanta;;o of the Ionian Islands in a political and coinmercial point of view, liijii 'I'reaty of I'aris does not lix ;j,(ioi) men as ihe peae(> estalilisli- nient of those islands, li).il One tluuisaml men in the r-lands could j^ive V'ldo a detachinenl sulhcient to protect it from the inhabilauls, lii-.;.-,-io.;K. 'I'he suliiciency of the force fur defence of the island must ih |tend upon the atlackin;;; party, lo;i4 Ddapidaled slate ol the lorlress ol ("ephalonia, and number of men necessary for its ilelince, io:;.j-H)4l <.)iie I'^ni;lish man of war would preveiit any Austrian force from conniiir near the islands, lo^ij-lo ,,-, VVhelher the militia of the island and the naval force wmild be hullicient to prevent the landiii)^ of troops and warlike stores during the iii;;ht, l04(t-lO4() A colonial corps if appointed would be in the pay of the islands, and a |iart of their force, lo.-jO, io,-,l Cireeks ur Maltese mi^ht form the colonial cor|)s wiiluuit \inlalinn of the cciii>litulion;d charter of tliu Ionian Islands, iofji-lir,4 Nnml)er of liritish ollicers thai should belo'i^ to that corps, lo.V, liihabilants of \'ido were disarmed about the year iHji), and what arms there are in the island are i;i a niiseiable slate, lo;,7, lo,-,H. 'Native Chiefs, Ceylon. Mow far danger to be apprehended from native chiefs, in the event of o considerable reilnction in the troops, (iascoi/iie •it),jH-.>(iK;j. Native lii-^imenh, (,'eylon. Numbers of the Ceylon native regiments, inanner in which ollicered, and i;eneral particular!, as to, Unj/ Zi\Vt-'22\H. \.i7;i / V. 1. Ciipe iif (jikkI lliipv. 2. ( lU/liin. '.i. SlllKl LfllllC. I. Ciipi' lit (iixxl lliipc: Sv^tein adopted by ihi- l)iii. i.\r,[i- •i;\r,r, WliulluT II t,'i.;iil';i rnmil)i.i ..V imliv.i li<).i|)i woiilil iiol liu iidviii.ililf, hmtr 23Uti-24ii.. '•]. Sicirtt Li'iim- ; 9- How far hoslility tn In- aii|irilii.iiilri| (rf.iii llir iinlivrs, iiinomil mid ilcm liiilioii ol llii'ir nrillH, iiiid fiicdiiy with wllicli llu'y iiii^;lil liiiid, innl/iii/ l.)K;; I (Ki). Kiii'iil /Mnc, limmii IsliiiuU. V\ lu^tliir tli« mivid toir*' mul iiiililiii would bo Kidlir.ient lu |Mrvciil (lie luildin^ of troops iiiid wiirlikf stoirH diiliO'^ lln^ lO'^lit, i\(//"»T lO4()-104)|. Nmnil ll^itpilnl. Cuih' ol' (i.M.d Hope. How liir the imvid liot^piiid iit Simon's Town could lUHittt till! iirmy, l)i/ic 'il>^i^-^il>^•i. \H;!3.'l/'/' /'• 40-.V>- _, , ,,, New Simlh »»«/.•■<. llef.irn of the numhers and dislrilmtioii ol the itlective lorce, ollicers non-coiiiiiiissi.,ned ..Ihcers, and rank aii.l tile of the Hrilish ariiiv, in. hiding colonial corps, III each year since iKl,-,. 111. ludiii- ailill.ry aii.l eieiiiie..rs, /I/7.. /. 79 Hetuni of all pav, allowances, .molumenls and salaries issm.l toolh..rs ,d the mditnry, garris.m, inedicaraiid commissarial stalf, and of the ordnance .lepartnient, lor the 1 .; months ended ;) I March iH;i;t, ^1/'/'-. /'• '^"' ^4- Sova Siotia. Upturn of the numbers aii.l .listnbutioii of the ..|le.tive f,.ic.' ollic.rs, non- ' counnissioned ollicers, an.l rank ami lile ..f ih.^ Itiilish army, includin- ...lonial corps, 11. each vear since lHl,r„ii,cludiii-; arlilleiy ami tn-ineers, .1/.;../.. 47— - Hctuiii ol all oay allowances, emoluments an.l salary's issue.l to others of the military, i^ariison. m.dical I commissariat stalf, an.l the ordnance deparlm. iil, lor 12 monlhs . n.le.l iji.t .Maich l«;!:i. Al>l>-P- 4! I •»•'.• O. 0/«.,,...i to olli.:eis ol the military, uarrison mclical and commissariat slatf, an.l .d tll.' or.liiance .lepartmenl. lor la ir.onihs ended ;5lst March ,H.n:-(Jibraltai. y//./.. /'. ;{ ; Malta, >»/7'- /'• !•:' 1 ! V'.",''''" " ' J''' '\!'^'7' Western (Umst of Afnca, A,,,,. ,.. io-.i;!; Cape ol Good Hope, J/./.. /.. 'iH-C^ i Canada, Am, V •l(i-tcc. J,,p. /> ^i)--,;,: iennu.hi, Af,,. p. ri-rJ' C,.vloii. .1;.,.. /.. f.i-li.-,: N'W S.nith Wales, .1/./'. /'• H"-«4 ; Jamaica an.^ Hon- diiras.'.l/./;. /.. K(Ih,,; Wm.lwar.l an.l L.-eward Islands, ^pp. p. .JI-I03; Ualmmas. Jpp.'p. 10,0, l.)(); Mauritius, App. p. loH-il.). Onluwriv^ oflhc ■Irmy. Amount pai.l l.y (ireat Britain lor, at the .litVerent colonies, App. p. I 1 .!. 0(7. See Spiiih. Oriln- of Miillii. Sec Mitlle-iC liilidliilniih. Onlnnmr Itn,,,,!. Gibraltar, r.stablishm.mt of the oi.lnance board, or boar.l of respective olliceis.,uulmaniierolconibictiii- their correspondence, Ihmhng ^i^i>~.\hj. Cunnlriie- ,,n,i of the board. resp,>nsibililv of ollicers. an.l manner ol prepaimii indents lor stor.'s. Ilnnllli" 4HS-,,i4 -- -li.portsrelativ.- to new works or repairs are s.'iit home to the inspeclor-.j,,iuial of fortdicalions, alter b, in- submitted to the boar.l. //,;,-4«)7- See Rahu-tnms. ^ Qrduance f.TO. " - 143] () R 1) PR I [Military l^xpcnditurr, Amount pniil by Orcat Hiilnin for, nt tlu- ilillfreiit coluiiieii, App, i>. (hthiiniii- C/mn/ff Hi, I l;{. (hihiniire Ikpiirlmtiit. Kt'diictioii that iiii|;lit Ik; iiciiIo in ilic ordimncfl (Icpnrtment nt Sierrii I,<()iii>, Irvine iX'/X-'H'^'y Lint oC tlii! |)riii('i|)iil iinlniinrH utorpn iit the Capp of (Joo'l Hope, ill cliurt;!: of thi' oiiln,uii:c storokctpcrH, iit ('a()ii Town, Crahanrrt Town, uml Simon's Town, in th»' your iH;(i, iniil showiiii' tho vnliir of the same at each stntiup, /l/)/j. /I. ;{;(, ;14 Siipph-'meiitary »tutemcnt, ithoiviiitf piirtienlirs of payment rnndo to nil odicur of orihiaiue ilepaitineiit at Ceylon, diiriii'^ the year iHiji, not iiieliided in the pay and .illowmueH issneil to ollieers of the stall', and of tilt' ordimncu depui'tmentN, III lliat <'olonv, App. p. 7K. .S'lC also ()///( e/s. Oriliioiiic Sloirkifpcr. Set- Savol Slino. P. Phi/. See 0(liien. I'ni/iiiiislci-^tmnit. OHice of pnyniastcr-);piierftl, in iHi |, held by some person in lliis country, and executed by deputy, liisscU 107, Pm/iwntfr-pieiierat'i Department. See Depuli/ Assintant t'(iinmisMn/-genertil . Penni/, Cajit. WilHum Iknrif. (Analysis of his l-'videiiec) — Adjutant of the Hotli rei^i- ineiit nt .Malta, 71:5 f^ickliness of it ninients on their first arrival at Malta; con- tinuance of the siekness of the (),",lh |{et;imeiit, whieli ocrasioiied other re;;i- nients to he overworked, 7l4-7J'i Detail of tlu amount of duty taken daily by the <;arrisoii of Malta, 7i;}-7J() Soldiers were in bed two nijjhts and one on ^nard, which is sullicient ; but less rest than that would be a hanUliip, 727, 728 If the number of nitn on duty daily svore rediiced, the i^arrisoii mi.j;lii be ; but from the dif- ferent works at .Malti, lliey would not admit of rediietion, 7;jo, 731. Statiineiil of the niimliir of noii-elfeeiive men in a battalion, 7;ji-7;i7 Preference of the former sysliin of battalions of from ei|;lit to fi'ii companies over the preseiit system of only si\ companies, 7.1S llemainiiii; in the Mediterranean does not impair the elli- ciency of the Irmips ; they Ukc tli<' station ; provisions (except bread) are chea|)er than in ICiiiiland ; ellicieniy of the reijiments at Malta, 7;)()-'74'> Number of nij^ht'.s rest soldiers ^el on stations fj;ener.dly, 7jH-7,-,:[ Maltese corps are elficient, but not so iniicli s ) as ISrilisli ; tlie'y would be improved if oliieend hy Urilish oliieers, 7.',4-7,';7 Maltese are adapted (or the service on which they i^e employed; they uoiild be as etlieient oil any other station as at M.ilta ; but would object to leave their own island, except for a limited period, 7.',S-7(i2. Pension. Auionnt of retiring pension formerly to civil servants at Ccyloii ; but which linit been abolished, 'Viiffnell nyii-iiVl-; . Pensioners, Mi/iliiry. Military pensioners have been turned to verv little account, lliii/ '3-,:), i3,".l- Pliiiket, Sir liieharil. (Analysis ol his Eviilence)— Private secretary to General Maitlnnd, and afterwards chief secretary to ij;..verninein in the island e ao^^iJ-io^M It W'^uld be in ire e\pf'iisive to inihni- a j>riv:ite prio!iti.-.i,i r to eive up his practice for four months than to ]iay an additional surjreon (or a whole year, Dyee '2100 ■:i04 I.ittle induceinent to private piactitioiiers to sdllc in the island of Ceylon, ///;// iSKS-i^^fjo. Provisio\s . Coloiiiet; iK;)4.| I' uo P YM ['43 I'liiti isinss : 1. (ieiifiiill^. a. (,W//r/». ij. (iiliriiilitr, J. .W.i//«. .>. Iiiiiiiin hlimdi. (J. I'tijiiri laid liffim llie Luiiimillee, I . (ieniriil/i/ : Niiliirt: (i( |iri)visii)nH sii|i|iIil(1 (d ilio navy, wIik li nn^ not of lh« j^rowlli or produce of (lieiit liiilaiii or lifi- culiHiies, Mirk •]i)r, Muiiiifr in wliicli I'oiuptlltioii fxints from vaiiiiiivi i;iivfriini>'nt ul;('iiIs |iurcliiiMiii;{ ninnlitr itrtiulua ia tliu Huuie murkut, Irvine ■i Hr,i-i\ ',}''■ '2 i ci/Idh : 'rroops are provisioiuMl liy otlicurs appuinti'd l)y tlio j;ovt'riior, the cxpcnau being wholly (k'fraycd by the coloiiinl ijovernmcMt, lliii/ vtix, -ia-ii. :l. (iiliiiillin- : All' supplied to tlif ^iirrinoii of CJilirallur by tender, us in otlitT cusl'h, Ihif 89—— rn'sli beet mure wliolrsome for lood peniiiiiiently limn niiIi, but there is it neiessity for keejiiii',' 'I ii ccrtiiin supply of suit provisions tollie tiiiriiscjii, I'l/iii 17S, 170 Frpitent Inhik' o( -.■'<'. nnd (ri>h mint, I'l/m iHi- l',\tonl ot the supply of suit uiid fresh meat, iiiiil vo(.\. i^.ri'of, hiioiilf.i ii^-'i^iii l''rewh meat is bellir lor the health than salt, t\iiiirifi:i 'i^l Salt meat beiiii; sent from Midland is served out as a niattrr of coiirtie, KiKiu/n ■2;],; Stalciiieiit '^liowili'^ the eomparative expeii'-e of supplying the ^arriHon of (iibraldir wiili salt and (Vesh iii(at,and Irivli meal only, lor one yeai, Kiiuu/ex U48 Supply h, Kiiuw/ts 24()-v!,;(i. 4. Alalia: (Janison suppliid one day in the week with salt anil the ri'st with fresh provisions, ('iiininiiiii *','i~- '^1' articles of piovisicui are at moderate puces, Cnmininif li.fjo.titio Nature and description ol llii^ provisions supplied Irom this country to Multtt, and from what jiort ; also of those siip[)iitd at Malta, iMvvk yli.O-T'i^. 5. Ionian hiamh : Cheapness of provisions and colonial produce, I'nmh 8H|, 882. (j. I'apm laid //c/iirc llif ( innmith'C : Uetnrii ol the anioiint |iaid for IVei;;lit of sail provisiiuis sent from Cork into the de| (it al Deptl'oid, and tlieiice to Malta, ( ubraltar, West Indies, jlalilax and Quebec respec- lively, tuuether with the rale per ton paid lor the same, 111 llie year 183;), App. p. I 1 1. I'.ihlic Miiui'i/. See Dtpiili/ Asslstiiiit l'ijmiiiissttri/-ueiieral. I'liivvi/nr, (libialtar. The deputy piiiveyor acts as clerk, atid is enlilleil to half-pay, M'dliror ■ill'i. I'al/am. Whether a coniuinidaiit at tins place ; if so, his duties ; if civil duties performed, and whether ullice necessary, lla/i/iKilic J;} 17, (i'i/mik/hc ■27*^,",, 'Vajjiull 'J|)()7, 'JiiOH, /'(////, Sir IVilliam, k.c. n. (Analysis of his lividence.) — Inspector-'^eneral of army hos- pitals, I2;j Coniparative anioiiiit ol the medical stall' at present and from I7().-, to iHiJ, and in what niiinner it me^lit be leduced, I27-1;{H Unties of tlii' staff surgeon and his deputies at (Jibiallar, i;{ij, 140 Medical board unnecessary, I41 Descrip- tion of patients that are under the cliari;e of the medical stalf, or to alteiid whom they may be called, t4.'-l47 *^'"' "' t''^' rt;,'ular medical staH'could iindertiike the duties of the medical ollicer at the bead of the (piaiantine department, l4H-i,33 -Fee chaiged upon ships arriviiiif, vvheiher placed uiiiler f|uarantiiie or not, l,j4 Pay and emolu- meoLs of assistant suriieous, if,,-,. Impropriety of a valuable barrack in the centre of the town being given up in 1819 by Six (ieora:i! l)on for the purposes ofa civil hospital, i;,()- t(il Medical stores of spirilii, oil and wine should be supplied from llie Mediterranuaii, and not sent I'roiii London, l(i2, !();{ Further evidence upon the lediiclioii necessary 111 the mediial department, I'','')- l'><) One half ol the nav.il hospital ;.;iven up lor the use of ihe aimy, 1 71-1 7:5 H a naval hospital established, more atlendaiic.e would be neiessary ; but there is no necessity in the liuie of peace for such an one Ik inii establislied, 174-17(1 I'resh beefnioie vvhole- soine lor food peiniaiieiitly than salt; but theie is a necessity for keeping up a certain supply of sail piovisious io the garrison, 17^,170 (Complaints iiiciilenl to too great a consumptioii e.f v.ib nrovisinn-;, iHo I'rcsenl issue oi suit .nitl (vesh meat, 18I1 (Second l'.xaininiilioii.| — Supcrnuuierary and temporary 1 (Hies of extra ganison-sur- gcon and siiperiiitendeiit-'^eiieral ol hospitals have been done away vvilli, ;il4 Number of meilRal ollicers Io each regiment ruinierly and al present are about the same, though ihe regiments vvtic much stronger, 3l,j-3-i Manner in wliich tile town is divided ,07". >' 15 '"'" f >44] P YM R U D [Military Exjicnditure, Pym, Sir William, k.c.ii. (Analysis of his Evidence) — continued. into districts, in order that the irariison assistant-surgeons niuy attend the panper nopii- hition, 3'23-H'.i7 Civil ])ractiticint'rs do not att'ord their services gratuitously, 330 Manner in which the poorer classes would be provided with medical attendance if the assistance of the start-surgeons withdrawn, 331-335 Periods at which the epidemic has visited Gibialtar, and prompt uieans taken to eradicate it, 33(1-345. Character and description of the medical men of the staff, 34G Civil hospital is supported by voluntary subscriptions of the inhabitants, 348-351 I'roposition for doing away with the present division of the town into districts, and the officers attend- ant on them, and in what manner the poor would be supplied with gratuitous assistance, ;'o--3.j8 Manner in which sick foreigners and others endeavour to get settled in the ;;arrison, 351). 350-3<^- lixisteni-e of the disease was reported in 1810 by one of the civil medical men, 363, 3G4 (iarrison was better as to trade in 1H14 than at present, :!'V) Stoppage of trade in case of an epidemic, and manner in which the people are assisted by the Government, 3(57-370 Number lost by the epidemic in 1804, and number of inhal)itants then and at present, 370-372 Persons who have had the yellosv fever svill not have it a second time, and precautions taken accordingly witii regard to the soldiers, 372. Qiiiirnntini'. Delicacy required in the administration of the quarantine regulations at (iibraltar, //(/y 459, 4(10 Arrangements entereii''i engineers have gcnie out and relieved the department, lirnwn i'^i- 2594 Natui f civil duties |)erfornied in the (piartermaster-general's department, (jincoyne -27011 ;o5. (iuebi: See Ordnance. Cvmmissarial. R. Rcfl-ictiuns. Orders constantly received from the Board in London to make reductions iii every department at (Gibraltar, Ilnrding 51; 1-503 Ordnance Hoard have desired reductions at Malta as experimenis, but none can be effected consistently with efficiency, /f7ii>H/(w 5:^7-589. Residents tit (lihraltai. Applications for permission to reside very frequently refused by the Secretary of State, llaij 85, Rest of 'I'roiips. Soldiers at Malta two nights in bed and one on guard ; less rest would be a hardship, /'«■«//(/ 7-27, yiH. 748-753 Men are three nights in bed to (uie on duly, I'lvrc/i 81K, H19 Proportion of rest to that on guard necessary for soldiers at Coriii and in the service generally, Sii/iicr 977-98-2. Revenue and Kipemliture. ^ Amount of annual revenue of Malta, Haif 1601 Diminution of expenses under Sir F. Ponsonby, and surplus revenue in coiist-qiienco, llai/ 1(113- 1C17 Kxamination upon the revenue antl expenditure of Malta, and upon the debt due to Ooverniiunt, ///;(/ lfi39-iti4(). Rideuu i'linal. Auiount paid by commisssriat for allowances to assistant commissary- general and other officers at, Ap/i. p. 45. Rork n/'dihr/illor. Manner of letting land on the Rock of (iibiallar bv the Crown, Ilaij HH, H-j. Ri'i/iil Africiin Corp^. Of what the Uoyal African Cor[)s formerlv and at present com- posed ; Furopean officers, theii pay and rations t!ie s;ime as that ul other officers of the line, Hn>/ 1339-1347- Uiiihdell, Sir JnHipk. (Anid>-is of Ins Ivvidence.') — S.-darv of the lord hi(;h commissioner • 'I liie Ionian Islands, 111(13-10115 Appoinlmcnis ul tiie gem raj officer commaiuinig the Imiips, loiiti ■- Number of troops in the loiii.in Islands in I 8s!4, and in what man- ner disliilnited, 10(18-1071 To what exldit the loree might be reduced ; in the event III an attack the military force must be Blutioiied in Corfu, and the other islands h ft to .)7"' tUeiusclvcs, ■ Colonies ; 1834.] R UD SI E [M£ Rudsdell, Sir Joseplt. (Analytiis of liis Evidence)— co/i/wkmA thomsolvcs, 1072-ioHi Thev would be lost, unless laitte reinforcements are sent out, 1080, 10()0 If an enemy obtained possession of the other isiiu,iH, they could only be exnelled'bv a superior force, lo8'2. in8;5 Necessity of keeping Corfu as the key to the Adriatic; 'it is a better harbour than Cephatonia, 1084-1088 Number of men that would be sufficient for CephaUmia at present, logl-i 1 1 1. A reTular force composed of islanders miirht be raised, if not too great in proportion to Uritrsh troops employed, 1114— -Ihey mi-rht desert easily, HI 5-— Preference to a lintish over a Greek battalion, 1 1 lO, 1 117 Vido will fulfil the condition of defendin' ta or the Continent, but cheap as compared with England, 11(14- llfifi. ,. Lord hiuh commissioner's salary might be reducfd, if he were subject to privations he ouuht not to be, lifij-l Uif) Advantage of re-uniting the olHces of lord high com- missioner and commander of the forces, and saving of expense theieby, 1170-1177 Of what the statf should consist in that event, 1178-1 190 To what exlent the. deputy assistant commlssary-iienerals and storekeepers m the islands might be dispensed with, 1191,1192 Size of barracks at Vido when works completed, 1 193 Fi which an enemy could throw shells inio the anchorage betwixt Vido and the citadel of Corfu, 119:3. Foiiils from town and ^ Salaries. 9icc doveriiur of Gibrallar. .Salt Provisions. Complaints incident to too great a consumption of salt meat, P)/m l8c Advantai'e of salt provisions bein-T inspected at Oeptfoid, but advaiilageons to have a small establishment at Cork, Kmnchs i-;t]-im. Mtrk [',[)i Examination upon the alteration in the system of supplvois; them throuu'li the contractors direct. Meek yjl- .,,,r__F,xtra expense and dllbculty of obtaining competent persons lor an examination t\ Cork as at Deptford, M^rk 39. '20 Amount of allowances paid by oi.!i.aiiMj> ••i<'40. I itoor.s . To!- 1S34-] TROOPS. r'47 ■ Troops : 1. Cape of Good Hope. 2. Ceylon. 3. Cii/onial Service. 4. Ionian hUtnds, ft. Malta. 6. Sierra Leone. 7. Papen laid before the Committee. 1. Cape of Good Hope : Amount of force there at its capture in 1795 and 1806. Hay 1714-, 7, 8 Force cnnsKicrecl necos.ary by b.r James Craig in .795 to ensure the safety of the nluce. / 1 17 1 9. 1 720-— Laracts from letters at that period upon that subject, JJau 1 70 ,'.., rin—- Force considered necessary m .8.7, Hay 1736 iDistribution of the troops em,l7ed at the Cape, llaj, ,747, Cole ^^83 ^listabhshraent of force wanted by s' E's C aiR was m consequence of the war with France and Holland, an.l the hostility ot Tl e inhab.tanlB, who are well disposed at present, //«,/ i7.-,8-i76r ,,fiR -fi^ ^ c r.or„y o, British troops consist^ principal'ly in their Zl^JiS^^ii:!^:^:^^;^^''^'- 1 he force at the Cape has been necessarily increased, from the incursions of tht- Caffies I [■^v^foT^.^r^""' tU formerly, Iktl .otiS". 969— Extent of reduct on n he m l" I. ry f.ice that ,s now taking place Be/l 20.8, 20,9 How often troops on ihef.V. ier are relieved from Cape Town. Co/e2i.8 Reduction in the amount of fo ce at h' Cape since 1821, lonhn 2,49— -It is now as low as it ought to be, D.nMnaUo-—. te;;;2r5.-2;'62 "'^'""''^ ^^ ^'^''''''^' ^^^ '°' -^ «' rand peace estabn^llen,, 2. Ceylon : . .Mmu!'"^"/ m'^ Tf,'"'"''* '" *•"" '="Pt"fe.'"'d 'hat necessary to be maintained for the >jeu.rity o the island, //„,y 2197-2200 Amount of force considered necessary by S r ho Uiitish Government, Ha,, 2201-2203 Force has been diminished since the annexa tion of the Kandyan province to the British territory in 1815, /;«» 2-07 2108— Amount, description and distribution of the force at present, llal -uo-221^ Amount of force necessary for the peace establishment of the Island, Lou'e'-i^iU-lu, Necessity for a disposable force being able to be sent to any part of the is'iand in case of emergency, /n,.e 24.7-2420 Reduction at any one pfacle is only spoken of as ! matter o distribution, and not meant to affect the number of tioonf necessary f de ence of the island, l.ou-e 2423 One regiment of Europeans niiuht be reduced Tvi i ' on increasing the native trooiis, llronn 25.0 Present force in the island cannot be '^^^^f-"f"r^'^^^ol Whether expedient to alter the relative proportion of native ami lintish troops, G«sfo^«ist,,huti„ii of force, Uai/ I2M(,, ..jh; Distribution ol the tin j.s in (ht; 1^,1,1^,, Inlands, A/,/,, p. 18. r,. Malla: Opinion against British troops bein ; raised fr exiUisive scrxicc in Malta W/,ilmo,v ,V->7-.V'l. ,'-,('4-,'-,7i I'enod for which they •ni-lit be so raised, H/,i(mme .-.---.-„, Uhc.e,u.vo|tlK.!egm,ei.tsalM:ata,JV«.„7;i,^-;.i,- Pr-MM:lm:mhu-oitn'o,.s';i //„« l'.' i"*"?" 1!""' ''"■'"'■' "","''"" •" '>'« '•"'■'•' 'Ip''. //"'/ i.VW Amount of force ni Malta from 1819 to 1821 ; inadequ.icy thereul, and cause of iiicro.e in Ibiti, Uau KliN- r. Si TRO W 11 I [Military Expenditure, , 7'n)o/)s— continued. 7 Pnrwn laid hefure the Coinmillee: , 7. i npeis lam («/ . . officers, non-commissioned officers and rank Return ortiio numbers and effe^vef^^^^^^ i„ each year since and file of the Br.l.^h army at G'^''*'.'^'^!. "X, App. p. 2 ; Malta. JJpp- V- 8 i lon.an ,H>5, includin.4 artillery and '^^^'^^''IflV^^^^ J,'^,\J dpe of Good rfope, ^pp. p. lshmds..l;,p.;.. t^; We^^va Scol^ &^^^^^ 47; Newfoundland, M>- P- 4« ; .7; Canada Jpp. P' 35^^J^„7 ];";;;%„ " New sLh vlpp. P- 79 ; J«ma.ca. 'J::T'85-tttr^S,'^^;^ 'rS.^rvvfndwaVd and Ueward Islands, ^pp. ,>. 90; Baha- mas,' V/'- '°4 ; Mauritius, App. p. .07. , • n. L- l„„«l.^ PrWnt<« Becretarv to the governor of Ceylon, 7»^«e//. 7/«-/. (Analysis of J'^^ "^^; -fj'rn for he ^erforman^ce of civil duties at f,,o,i How far adv.sable to ^""i'^'^J^^'J ^^,^^ pensfon formerly to civil servants, the several stations, ^9O9-^02i--Amo«m^y«^^^^ P ^^e expense from civilians bc-.n^. ^:::,£ rpri:fr:s*J^-;;l;Iry men, .o^03«— how f.r neces.ary for , Sa.^ commandants at the several stations, .945-'^9!)^- f T L „ „„,1 r.rppre necessarv to be taken into consideration .„ „.„„,•. I..,-. R«..™ ";;i» -a:^- :^ rTz^<:t:tSi:s;:;^^ ■nst March 183:5, ^i/V).p-So-**4- .1 , M . , snhrv of the clerk in charge thereof at Gibraltar. A/«t 373. 17, /.on^^^^^^^ ^^^^ „,^,^^ l,,^ ,„,d i,y u.. ..,t Malta IS well conducted, ^'^f/' /9? ..^ , .Lartment were to supply the army T,..asury or Army 'U'l-rtmcuit if heWu^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^J ,^^^„^ ,„i^,,, r!:in:'r:; ^s;^-:;: thereb^^kcted t^ .1.1 country. Ir... ..^J. See uho Commissaridt. ,,,„ ,,,.a of. one thousand men •-;;;J«'- ^^'^it^Si-^'^^lt^^ls ^ s.tricient to protect it from the '^'^^^J^Z^e^^'n tb. isl.nd ar. in a miserable .i-rme.1 .bout the year >«-^ » \ , 'lb, conditK.n of deU ndmg the anchor... o. ;lo:fu,'r,:m^(:.^:-^tI.; citadel ana Fort Neu,; H.d.ieU U... Onlname. Viment, >*., I^'iand. See Commissariat. w. l,ud the chief command at ^ '''^a v t 1 e 'J^ • ,f ,„troduction of steam, • : 'iLir^There are two l-nglish others ,n tlu '/'H -; ...iU;^ '^1 ^^J^; ,„, ,,,r„o>i iCl^lta for service in the NI.-l't'-"--'i^-!-'';;;,i;'':,,^t:': ^.J;;: .vi^e rais. d_ the .;t;s.;Wlieiu.hci..cyoftl.eu:..^sonc. !., ,„.rs.ms ni Malta who would l.ll I he '■'''•''• ;'~llj.Op,,. , on against the ga.iisou ,,„;iovii.u.tduiini^.heex.ste,.cc.dUic Hdc,5^^ "-'- ''■•-.: j:::;t::;;:^:,::r;il"":o:^a''ur.ta.ne.iu.veu. or >(aita,,,M- I'urlluv rtasonuagai A72. Advantairr« CoIonicH; 1^34-] W II [ Z A N [•49 i U'hilmore, Colontl Sir (niiiri^e. (Analysis of his [^vidfincc — rniitiiiiied. Advantages possessed by soldiers servin;^ in the Mediterranean over other colonics t 573-57G Periods I'ur which troops m.i^ht be raised for service exclusively in Malta. .')77~>70 " troops raised for colonial service, olHcers mitrht be us good as at present. but men would be certainly inferior, ;-,8o Disadvanta