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"MOKNINOJ CUKOXIlLE • OFKK'K. 1 H (I S . ■V S i ' I CONTENTS. PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES. A. Adkmss in «n«wer to Spe^-h noveH 2 discufiwd . . 4-34 to Qneen 163 Adjouknmbut 167 B. BtLL pro forma •^ C. • COHFEDERATIOM, 3, 4, 34, 35, 38, 39-164, 169 170, 171-176, 180-281 Committees 34. 36 D. DI8TKB88.... 36,37, 61, 8d?/91, 110 Delegation 166 Delegates, thank« presented to 28.5, 292 E. Election of Speaker 1 of Officer* 2 Estimates 285 Editcation 207. 296, 297, 302 M. 291 Mines asu Minikalb . . . . 302, 30;1, 304, 311 Mn.iTiA Pi;blic AcrmxTS 170, 177, 303 QlIALIFICATioS OF ElKCTOR* . 304 F. FlNANnvi. STATKMIN'1 177 I., J. iNVKRNEss Election 52, 110, 118, 2S1 iNTERrOLONIAT. RAILWAY 164. iOO Tnbbriate AsYLrM 179 JURIM 290 L, TiiruNSE Law. 289 RtKVnS AND Bridgbs. '^^ BoapGr^nt 1^ KEPOLI'TIONf* ON Rbpeal 34, 175 aiuendmont to "^ Railway Dahuoeb 179 RECiPRo< 20", 296 Statu of Province 306-310, 312-318 Secret Service 296 Sl'FPLT 293 Tkeasi'ht Notes 311 Vote of ci-edit 165, 305 of thanks 285,292 iV CONTENT!!. DEBATES ON THE ADDEB8S AND ON CONPBDEBATIOT,. DKBA'J'IJ CfS ^'••«'«»"'m.cl ■.■..■. 4.' 2 1 2J Hon. Pioviuc=nl .SocreUiy Hon. .\t(orncv General „ o- Hou. Mr. Tioc),. ,' Mr. Kversoi, \'"" JJ I>r. Miirniv .... 13 Tm ADDItESh. j Mr. Pinco I Mr. Voung I Mr.Smith ^^ 17 I Mr. Kidstoii I Mr. Chumljeii* Mr. r.udv .... •' 20 Mr. Morrison *il KIH.sj- I>KB.ATK ON (JONFEDIHATION. il'>i>. Attornov r. Miirrav ineo Mr. Dickie. . Mr. (Jhambcr: Mr. C'ain))!(r»!l Mr. Kidston . . Mr. I,nwr(>nc( ... 44 .52 13" C7 7o 80 Hon. Mr ( twlirHn Hon. I'rovinoiMl .^efiotarv . Mr. De.sbrisHv Mr. I.andor« Mr. Ryereon Mr. Kirk .......'. Mr. 'i'ownaen<) Mr. ]>ineo' ' ®^ i **'■ ^^- McI>onnId. f»2j Dr. Drown • • 92 I f Ion Mr. Fergiisson •f)6, 108! Mr. Youn;r ■ 99 I Mr. Vm-dy.l: ■ •■ 99 Mr. Douoette Mr. Freeninn ' *"^ I ^'' ^''>l"^l''»"'l • HO I Air. Whitr> . . 112 . 113 . HO. . 121 122 123 124 124 124 127 127 128 134 135 13.) Ni:< ONO DKIiATl.; ox COXKEDKKATION. Hon. Ationwy Ooiiornl.. 171 .,-„ Mr. BlanohHixl ' ' "'- Hon. ]\Ir. 1'roo)> Mr. SniiOi Provincial Screl^rv Mr. Kidstoti Hon. Mr. Fhim Mr. Morrison ' . . Mr. Purdv ' Mr. Dt'shritav Mr. I,and<;r.s.. . ISO, 255; Mr. Youjig.. ••• 191 j Mr. Dickie... ■•• 201 I Mr. Pineo ••■ 211 ! Mr. Clmmbcr,'.., Mr. Rvfi-son Di'. Murray Dr. Brown Mr, Northiii) .. . 216 221 222 ! 229 j 2.30 ' 232 235 235 238 239 243 245 2,51 'JSi DEBATES AND PROCEEDINCrS OF THE 16 ir> 17 19 19 20 »1 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY OF NOVA SCOTIA. SESSION 1868. . 112 . 113 . 11«. . 121 122 123 124 124 124 127 127 128 134 135 13.) 232 235 235 238 239 243 245 251 'J5i TH0HSDAT, Jin. 30, 1868. The members elfct of the House having at- tended at an early hour, the uiual oaths were administered by the Commiieioners ap- pointed for that pjrpose. At about two o c ook His Excellency the Lieut. Governor, Mijor Gen. Charles Hastings Doyle, having arrivedattbe Coonoil Chaniber, the Gentle, man U«herof the Bla-jk Rod conveyed HisEx« cellenoy'a command that the House do attend him there. Upon the members attending in the Council Chamber, His Excellency desired them to make choice of a Speaker, and they returned for that purpose. ILKCTION OF SPE4KKtt. Dr. BaowN said:— I rise for the purpose of nominating John J. Marshall, Ecqr., as a fit and proper person to be the Speaker. Hon. Mr. Robkrt«on said : 1 have great pleasure in Sfcanding the nomiuatiop, be* lieving Mr. Marshall to be a person whose experience as a member of the House quali* nes him for the position. The Clerk put the motioc that Mr. Mar- shall be elected Speaker, which passed nnani* monsly. The Spbakkb then took the chair, and an- nouDoed that the House would again attend His Excellency in the Council Chamber. After the members had returned,— The Spbaker announced that he bad been presented to His Excellency, as the Speaker elect, for approval, and that Kis Excellency had been gvaoiously pleased to approve of the otoioe, and had likewise granted the usual privileges of freedom in debate, immljniiy from arrest, and free access by the Sp< iker to His Excellency's pe'snn. The Spbakee said :— Qentleroen, I havede- rerred making my acknowledgments to the House until your selection had received His Excellency's approval. I now beg leave to address you on that subject. For this un- animous and unsolicited m«rk of the esteem of the Home of Afsembly of Nova Scotia I feel Of the position to which I have been elevated by your favor, I am animated by f strooK desire so to conduct myself as to make uiy •uthority respected. While remaining per- fectly independent as regards my thonjtlitand acti.)n in Committee of the whole, I will per- mit no distinctions of men or party in tb« proceedings of the House, but while I hold office it shall be my endeavour to administer without fear or favor the rufea which the wisdom of ages has matured, and which are so esseatisl to the honor and dignity of the Hous9. THK aOVIENOa'S SPEECH. The Ei'PEAEiK announced that Hfs Excellency the Lifjutenant Governor had been pleased to open Parliament by a speech to both Housee of which, for greater accuracy, he had ob- - was as follows : * and Honorable Geniltimn j-ative Couneil: i Gentlemen qf the House ^»-' sntetive of our Oraoiona Bovereife. Government of the Pro- vince, I huve called you together at a season which experience has proved to be most con- venient for the trans tction of PubUo Brji- ness; and I beg to assure you of luy oo dial co»operation with yeu, in maturing sneh measures as are calculated to promote the genr-ral welfare. Mr. Speaker, and Gentlemen qfthe Hovte of Aitembly : The Public Acoouats will be subaaitted to you, and I regret to inforni you tnat the Financial affairs of the Province are not in a very satisfactory condition, and I fear that the funds at your disposal will not be sufiB- oient to meet the requirements of theoountiy. There is one suhjedt to which I deem it necessary to call your attention, in order that you may make same provision from the Treasury I refer to the contemnfated To- dustnal Lxhibit:on. Such Exhibitions are oaloalated to develope and display to sdvan- 7 ti DEBATES AND PR0CEEDIN03 tftgethe Indaitritl Rrionrces of a country. »Dd merit us liberal inpport as the ciroum* •tftDoea vf the Protince will justify. Mr. Prttid'nt, and Honorable Geullcmen of the Legi$lative Council: Mr. Speaker, and Gentlemen of the Hovte •f Jlsiembly: While rejciOiDic thtt the Husbandman !n the pait ee»«0D baa bad no reaeon to com* plain of a defioient harvest, I regret that an almost total failure in the Fishery has pro- duced luuoh and general distress among those enfjaged in this b.anoh of ::iiJustry, and I have found it necessary to maite con* ■iderahle advances from tho Public Tieasury for tbeir relief, in acoouct of which will be ■uboiitt id for the sanction and approval of the LtTKislaturo. Your attention will be invited to some amendments in theLia>? relating to the sub- ject of Education, and I trust your delibera- tions may be of such a character as will place the Educational InterestB of the coun- try upon a satisfactory basie. Immediately *fter the formation of my Ad- ministration, it vas deemed advisable to ap* point a Commiesion to examine into and re« port upon the financial affairs of t'je Province. Tbo Commissioners are engaged in the dis- cbarge of the labor assigned tb°m, and as ■oon as they have executed the remission, it will be my duty to .ubnit their report for your consideration. The Railroad from Truro to Plctoti has bwn opened for trafiaTij, afifording a vast improve- inent in the communication between the H«r« bora of Halifax and Pictou, and greatly facilitating our intdroourse with the aojacent Provinces. IM Province of Nova Sootia has ever been diatingruished for loyalty and unawervmg fidelity to the British Monarchy, and it is peculiarly gratifying to me to entertain a firm conviction, that, if the people should dpsire any political changes, they will sei-k the at* tainment of that object through their re« preaentativrs, in a constitutional manner, and that their sincere and ardent attachment to British lastitutions will not fail to manifest itself in all their proceedings. ELECTION OF OFFICES S. Hon. Peovincial Skcbktaet:— The gentle- man whom 1 am about to propose as the first Clerk of the Houte has filled that position for » long time with great ability and general ■atisfaction, and I take it for granted that in his election we will bedischarpins the duty devolving on asin a way that will be of great advantage to us as new members. I propose Mr. Henry C. D. Twining. Mr. Blanchahd:— I have great pleasure in seconding the nomination, — t je more so be« cause it is not probable that any other can- didatp will be offered for the aflBce. The gentleman named has filled the oifi 10 long and so well that his re ^npointmen will be creditable to the House and advantageous to the country, and I take his nomination an a pledge of the observance of the rule, fre- quently so little observed by governments, that the best nen will be selected to fill the offioee of the country. Mr. Twining wta elected, ana ..ok tha oaths of ofiQne. Mr. CocuEAN proposed Mr. Lawrence \1. Power for the oSoe of Clerk's Assistant. Mr. TowNSEND seconded the nomination Mr. Power was elected and swortt. Hon. A1T0BNET Gbnebal:— !■' is usual for the Rous'! at this stage of ita speedings to elect a Chaplain, and as tbu Uevd. J. C. Cochran hap filled that office to the satisfac- tion of the House for years, I now move his appoint jient to the offioo of Chaplain. Mr. NoBTnup seconded the nomibation, which he trusted would receive tho unani» moua sanction of tho House, and would give, univeraal satisfaction. Rev. J. C. Cochran was elected Chaplain. Mr. Dickie proposed Mr Angus M. Oidney for the f'ffiue of 8ergcant-8t-Arm«. Hon. Pbov. Seo'y. seconded tho nomina« tion. Mr. Qidney was e'octed. Mr. Cu MiDBEs proposed Mr. Jno. MoCurdy for the (i£Bce of Assintant Sergeant-at-Arms. Mr. CocHSAS proposed Mr James GrifiBn for the offioe, stating his qualifications, and remarking that as some of the previously appointed oflioers belouEeJ to the coun- try, the election of a citizen to tho office •& question was only fair. Mr. NoETHVP seconded the nominatior of Mr. Qriffia, and endorae'i the remarks made as to his fitness for the office. Mr. CHAMBEB8 Supported Mr. MoCuidy's nomination, remarking that he was qualified for *he duties of Assistant Bjrgeant-atnArms, and that the election of a person from the country would be generally acceptable. The ballot, on being taken, resulted in Mr. GrifSn'a election. Hon. Attt. Gen. proposed Mr. John Fitz' gerald foi the office of Mtrssenger, remarking that Mr. Fitzgerald was so old a public servant aa almost to have a title by posses- aion. Dr. Beown seconded the nomination. Mr. Blanchabd said he took thi; opportu- nity of adding his testimony as to the efficient services of Mr. Fitzserald. Mr. Fitzgerald was then elected. BILL IttO FOBMA. Mr. White asked leave to introduce a bill to amead the Act for the relief of insolvent debtors! The bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time at a future day. AN8WEE TO THE SPEECH. Mr. Dickie then moved the following Addresa in answer to His Exctillency's Speech :— To His Excellency Major General HxariVQa Dons, Lieutenant Governor of the Pro- viiice of J\fova Scotia, S^c, SfC, SfC. Mat it please Youe Excellency— 1st. We thank your Excellency for the Speech with which you have been pleased to open the present Session, end the asiurancc of your 00 operation with the Lesialature in maturing such mfeasures as are calcuKted to promote the general welfare. 2Qd. We regret to learn that tha financial aSiairB of the rreviscc are not lu aaatisfsetory J'' Tin!: HOUSE OP ^"SEMBLT. (ha condition, »nd that the funds %t oar dirpoa;.. will nut be euffioient to meet the requireme.it* of the onuDtry. 3rd. We ehall be happy to adopt all luoh ajieDda>enti in the L«w relative to ei'/oatiun a« are aaloulated to improve and rei.v.er more perfect and Rati8f«ctory the educational ayiteiu of the I'rovince. 4th. VVt> Ml', aware of the advantages of In- duitrial ExbioiUons, and ae -^any perions na^u probably been preptrluR tor that which has bee 1 cuntempiAted, we shall make such provision from the Treaiury, for its en» cauragfrnenr, as tie circumstances of the PfOvinise will warrant. !iih. We hi.'jbly approve of the ffiorta msdc b> your ExoelUuoy, to relieve the distress of the Fishermen, and in common wit'i your Ex- cullency, we regret, that the failure in that branch of industry has occasioned much and general distress among so useful a class of the people. 6th. We thank your Excelleaoy for the ap- pointment of Co..nmiEsione;s to cxac^lne into and report unoa toe general oonditioa of the afftirs of thL Province. • 7th. It is with much satisfaction that we contemplate the vast improvement in the oom« munications between the eastern Counties and the metropolis, and our intercourse with the adjacpnt colonies by the extension ot (he rail- road from Truro to Piotou. 8th. Your Exoeller, hasby no means over- estimated the loyalty of the people of Nova Sootia, and their fidelity to the Briti&h Monarchy, and your Excellency may rest as- sured that in their efforts to overcome the disadvantages under which they at present labour, and to efi'ect any desirable political changes, tuey will iiek the attainment of those objecis through their represtntativks ia a strictly constitutionpl manner, and that their sincere and ardent attachment to British Institutions will not fail to manifest itc le>l 'He aaoh arrangementa with the neigb .lo.^x,! v^epublio aa will ifatore that maike if which we hav4 bden deufived. It ia with a deep feeli .g of anxiety that I look for a report of the Gommiaaionera who are charged w'ih the duty of enquiry into and reporting Vipon the general conJitioj of the affairs of the Province; and I trust that their report will relieve (he country of many feara ^hich they have been led to en- tertain from the, I trxift temporarily, altered co.' to seek redress in • constitutional Uk s . Mr. DksBriiai . *id :— I rise with pleasure to second the addreas which has just been moved, and in doing so I beg to say that in my opinion it contains an excollent summary of the views of the people of Nova Sootia on the questions agitating the public mind. I am pleased to be able to congratulate the House and the people of the Provioca that so soon after the terminatiou of a scheme which was forced uron us against our wishes we are now in a position to demand the restora- tion of the liberties of the country. I had not an opportunity of making myself ac- quainted with the contents of the address until I heard it read, but it commends itaelf to my approval, and I aeoond its adoption. Eon. AiTT. Genebal moved that the ad- dress lie on the table until to-morrow.— FMsed. OONFECKItATION. Hon. Atty. GBN'iiMin moving the adj'^urn- ment of the House, said:— I feel it my duty at this stage of the proceedings of the House to make one or two observations as tu the course which is intended to be pursued by the Oovernment on the all-important question of Gonfedertetion. The speech from the Throne has not touched directly upon that matter, for, under tho peculiar oiroumijtances of our situation. Hie Excellency's position is one of no ordinary difficulty, and bis Council, ia dealing wi'.h this question, have also b«>en placed in a difBoult poaitioo. ^bere ib, therefore iti the speech merely an allusion to the probability that political ohangea may be ^,ziit6^ vy tuv pcvpls, but U bcvuiucs tb« doty of the Government, at tho earlieit mft. «ent to (leolareto thi. Awemw/" hVohT,: ZlhaT } ^ ""JoP'"!. I therefore atstetbat Md m^^r''"* '^"""'J"' ^*y I »•» »»inR down '«t oTC *f:5;;;'ti°i. "•"'""°" - '^« -^- ■tkJM^fn'nP^'N*'"'"^''".'"'" *»>»' the Con. ?h.. w !^ ^*"* S°o"» »" irrevoo»ble.- tno «ubject of Confederation, had no power or authority t-> confederate Canada. New Brunewiok and Nova Scotia, as they h«vo i '«.-«»>ey will insiet that the people of No! l^^Tf* ''•d* right to be consulted at the lu^y^'V*"'"-^'""'''*''''''*'' ''" touched or »ltered.--th,y will proceed to sbow that the Soif^ . 7''*"*?'' **'"y *"« willing to be o«nf.derated until two months after the Queen's proclatnation brouijht the Brit sh North America Act into force.-they will set forth that the people of this Province, ha vine •t length been consulted on th.s vital oJei tion. on the 18th day of September 'st^em phatioally and almost unanimously declared '-fhev'iir^t ""'"'"« '^ ^'^ oo/fe3era, d. —they will thereupon declare on behalf of bl^T'j':^'''''''*' ?'•«''"<«' >» "otTba not ed .*„H°in°" rV"'"""* ^° ''^ confederat- ed, and will conclude with a resolution that a humble address be presented to the Queen SnS^ Her Msjesty^o withdraw he? pTocU.* mation. and to cause the Imperial Statute to rVaVi:i,%'J'*'^-"^«--''^ou? ^p^t^^il^r^si'Sr^^f^-;! ^l\ T!^^'n° ^l'" ""uncement that the Re- peal of the Confederation Act so far as this l^rovinoe is concerned, i. the poliojof th' Government I believe that while carryine out that policy we will have the symp.tSf Rad co-operation of this Legislature and of i^iW^tl^"" °°"°*'y •" «he great struggS Which lies before us. Ours is a country That by judicious and proper government might and ?h. "*"l^?°.^«'-y ■n'l harmonious state, and 1 have suflioient confidence in the Parliai ment of Great Britain, in the peopfe of Eng! tuM a Repeal of the Union will be granted n!!,! V o,""c»'n«t*Dces in which I am placed, to make an observation or two A very wise man once said that there "was uet transpired is not something new under In a"lll mv Jf.??.""".'''K^ "^'^ '° my experience, in all my political observations I have never known an instance like this, where, after it ""greed that the address stand over till to- morrow, two geutiemen rise to speak to its SS\ F^' """Usually rel^cchoe, the ?f! K • *!?* '"'' *^« fi"' «• They told nsor iheir policy once before, and the coun. h/«"'VU"'^ 'f" au jounc-jment. and yet we *»Te the solemn farce of the leader of the wwninent letting ip Md telling as that DEBATES AND PEOCEEDINes Ac? P«rh^.*l!»?.*''«'*P"' 'l" Confederation Act. Ferhapg the Qovernit.ent mav hJ^lth^ to do wonders, but they should have allotJd aown with the thunders of their wrtth a. f«rag my weak power could go I -„ «.d^ HrtifSv^is^saw going into the whoTpoHcy of the Q^JL' wrh.? ' "'''""• of .djournment. I must ,.y' we have seen something new ^ hnn • "^^7 Gkneral-I presume that the hon. and learned gentleman who has in. ? spoken IS the leader of the Opposhion The Opposition IS a very small one. and no'doub! tXhe rd"'Vh* ^^''^ •?*'^' of noise in orSe 10 oe tieard,— therefore it is. I suppose thti h»nK°- ""?'''"*■ "° energetic in makini man who has seen so many political and Th!^ day'^t^^oTlo^r *'''°"°''* '" '^' '""^'""S The House met at 3 o'cbc^'"' *'"''• DEBATJi ON THE ADBBK8S Ad^^rwJofHuTxntn*''*'^''''"'''' »» the Th! 2^5 ' *^"e"ency do now pass. and th« fit'f",''*'' *"'^° "P clause by clause and the first clause pass? d without debate The second clause was then read ♦«\r„ ■ . "'**^'' said-It becomes my dutv ced to the House last evening '"/ "„"» aU low this second clause to pass /u6 S/ii because it would be thought and mf^h? ' f^i^^i^^^aXnivtiTJiiirti^ tValL-rb^r-S^ClJoi^^^^^^^^^^^^ theSe ofVh-''*'' •"""' '° * P""'*'" to fell Sref«"^r'"^«'«---" ers to ascertain the state of our finanTs °If H,. 1,^'"^°"""*. h"«P"' intothemouhof His Lxcellency the siatement that we are tn await the report of those gent ' r "u I ask what condition are they in to say tuat we will lie se?vil« 7" T' ••'f "^"'"'nenu 0? he pubi Jic service? I assert bold y that no ereat.i. ri^'^n^^.V?/-', -« -." -.cie by" an^GoJ! assertion:; l^;k;owTedg;7f the^^irri^of'fh'e ' l/dt'h«fi^"""^ •'"'^«" months "nwh^icl I led tlie QoTerament enable «« to.iay Stl Uie OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBI Y. *four thousand dollars, and I ask if we were ever in a better financial condition than that. Ic may be said that we have much to do with these funds. — Let it be remembered what out liabilitieu were before. We had $160,000 ol interest to meet every year, which is taken off our shoulders. We had our judges to pay, and a great many other charges which no longer falls on us, and therefore if the government choose to come in with an estimate liberal and fair, they can fully provide for all the wants of the country. I repeat the assertion that there are $329,000 to the credit of the Province, ready to be distributed, with a full know» ledge of the responsibility which I incur iu making it, and knowing th^t if a contradion tion can be given, the officers of the Govern* mnnt will furnish it; if no such contradiction be given I ask the House and the country to believe the assertions I have made. In comx menting upon the speech I should be sorry to treat it as made by His Excellency, who stands above all party questions. Whatever may be the personal wishes of the Lieutenant Governor on this subject, his Government must be held responsible for the sentiments which are put into his mouth. I find that the speech as printed in the organ of the Govcrnn ment says : '•The Public Accounts will be submitted to you, and I regret to inform you that the Fi- nancial affairs of tbe Province are not in a Y^ry flAtiftfAQtorv Gondition. and fifar ths.t the funds at your disposal will not be sufficient to meet the rfquirements of the country." His Excellency appears only to have had * little alarm, but the hon. member for King's, who moved the Address, is quite si^e About the matter. I ask if this House i)) going down on its marrow-bones to te'l tijo people that we are paupers. While the Commis* sioners are still at work do notibe goTerment ffel ashamed to say to the oouqtry, "we have no money to give you, but do not be angry." They do not, as I have said, know our actual coni'ition,— they are either inoa- pable of enquiring, or did not want to en- quire when they picked up three acconttants to do their work; and now, before the re- port of these gentlemen is presented, the g^ov- ernment put into the mouth of His Excel- lency, and of the member for . King», the statement that the country is basikrupt. It has been said in the press, and by some of the gentlemen who have come to attend this session, that we are baukrupt bfcause all our money has gone to Canada. What are the facte? I undertake to say, again repeating, that if wrong, the government will be able to contradict me, that the L^ominion Govern- ment have spent in Nova Scoth, for Nova Scotia purposes, $600,000 i. ire than they received, I clallenge' anyone to show mo wrtmg to the extent of $6000; and 1 further say, that not one dollar of the moneys of Nova Scotia ever went beyond its borders. I ask the members of the House who hbve come from the country pledged to repeal the Union, to digest and consider that state- ment; and if the government cannot contra- dict it on the spot, it will be for those mem- bers to ask whether all the assertions they have heard and seen on this subject are true or not. I ask these statements to be weighed before any man tells us that we are mere serfs and slaves, sold to a rich country, in whose grasp we are. When I was in the government $,450,000 were sent down and placed to the credit of Nova Scotia, and every dollar of it was spent in our service without a dollar being returned. If the government cannot meet me on these questions, let some of their suboi^inates come up and tell roe whether I stated what was un true, when I said, with a knowledge of all the facts, that without a dollar being eftpt to Ca nada, wo received iii two months After the Union, and expended here, $450,000.. What, then, is the meaning of this talk about finan- cial embarraetment, and the cry that our people have been sold for 80 cents a head. I have said that the sums that the Dominion is liable for an! has paid on our account, amount to 'pGOO.OOO; and where has the money gone ? One would suppose, by the tone of sume of our newspapers, that the dues paid into our Custom House are a!l sent to Canada; but where has the interest on our debenture bonds came from ? Where are the Biiring Brothers? Have they no claim against this Province? Aye, $165,000every half«year, Canada has to pay for interest on the debt of Nova Scotia— poor Nova Scotia, that has been sold awaj ! Does the Domin- ion Givernmcnt pay nothing else? Htvc they not to provide for our Militia service? "zxt'JiiiiX. in. subsidy, make $549,000; ond I was therefore right in saying i hat $G0Q.OOO had been ex- pended on Nova Bootian account, without a dollar being returned. If I o«d be ooitro* DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS terted m thii statement. I will go down on ^,i?^ "nd beg pardon of those whom I •ddrrteed. *r» T ..!.. ,. ... .,..^... . ..^ ... ..... —..J. iuctautl.v TTC placed our n-Kignations iu the bands of His Excellency. I am ready to meet any enquiry as to the length of time we remained in office. His Excellency was then required to form ft Government, and «h»t did be dot We had 38 men, good and olever, elected from all parts of this country. Does be rend for any of them 7 Oh, let it never be told out of Nova Scotia that out of this majority of 36 to 2 there was not a man fit to form a govero« ment. and I sometimes wonder at the Attor* ney General, knowins how highi>spirited he is. Consenting to come into a govornment which he was not asked to form. Ttie gen- tlemen I see before me were told in fact that not one of them was fit to form a govern- ment, and Richard McHtfTey, a (centleman whom I respect above nearly all others, was sent for. That was an insult to these 38 men. They may choose to pocket tbe offence, and do their duties,— that is no affair of mine. Then, without leave or license Mr. McUeffey calls together his party in this room, and tbe first thing they do is to take the rejeoted of Cumberland and make him Premier— the man who escaped from the i^ iititaenoy af Halifax. Do not these gentlemen feel asham- ed and degraded by this c.Soice? If they do not resent these two insults, it is not for me to protect their honor. I niity say, bowniver, that small thcugh tbe opposition may be, aiid much as I maj be sneered at, it is a good thing that there is an opposition, for were it otherwise, I fear that this legislature would be like a river running down to the sea. that sea being the United States. I make the atatc* ment boldly, and reoeat that it is m blessed tbicg for Nova Scotia that we have an op- pOKition. small though it be. I have spoken warn»ly in tbio debate, but without the intention of giving personal of* fence to any individual,— as regards the Hon. Mr. Mo'ieffey, as I have said, I believe a more estimable man does not stand in Nova Scotia, but when he assumed the position which he did assume, he did an act deroga- tory to himself and insultinc to the men who sit on these benches. We have been told that we must look to constitutional means for the redress of the grivanoea under which they labor; but I ask the House and the country boldly, whether it is true that within a hun- drtu miles of this city, in the County of Pic* tou, whole companies of militia have gone off the field, refusing to drill or to have their tines collected, and whether that was done by the advice and with the knowledge of the Attorney Geueial? I do not assert that it was, but that is what is generally believed. If that bon. gentleman denies that by word or deed he encouraged that conduct, I will withdraw the imputation, but if he docs not, see what bis position may be one of these days; a warrant has been issued for thq, ar- rest of the delinquents for their tines; the people at West River have taken up arms to resist, have driven off Iho constables, and wo m»y at any moment hear of life being lost in tboeucnuiiter. If that ooouis, lask when the Attorney General comesi to iiidiot tbooffendevu for murder, if lie has emoouraged the idea that the people shoull not drill, will not a share of tbe repponti'.bility rest on him? 'tVhcij npcaking Of ihe Diniijcfn llieie is one subject which [omitted to mention. Not on- ly bave we $329,000 to expend next year aa Dominion revenue, but ve have a large reT« enue from our gold aod coal fields andorown DEBATES AND PR()CEEIHNC(S ! I' il! liBdfc To« win observe thtt the gpeeoh ii wient on that point, la that intended as a blind, BO „ to make It appear that we hare nothing but Dominion funds to eipend ? Let nae itate a few taon to the Hou.e. At Mount Uniacke the other day 325 ounoea of gold go d2i percent. bBloog.to the government, and 1 know when I left the Attorney Gen- eral a offioe It waa proved that on the firat of next June our revenue from the gold minea would be $40,000 If the government give Die therevenue to thatdatel will engasre to give tbem^the S40.000. Instead, therefore! ofbein« bankrupt we will have plenty of money to apend. ' But I do not wonder ihat auoh atatementa have^bcen made-oould the country expect anything^elae ? The government had not the hardihood to aay anj thing else after what they have aaid on other ocoaaiona. I had day ,-the Atty. General aeemed to think he bad nothing cto do but to riae and tell the House "oh. thiB 18 a noiay fellow, do not mind hi«« I will not oondeocend to answer him." I dare aay he will take no more no- tioe of me now. and will tell the House that he would not 80.1 his fingers by demolishing all laay, hut I bring him before the bar of public opinion, where he cannot act so con- temptuously;— what I have aaid goes to the country, where it will be read and studied, and therefore before the membera of governi ment can throw aside my remarks, they wUl have to prove to the people that I am exte- gerating the facts, and if I am. let public opinion judge me. It will not do for them to turn me olf with the sneer that there ia nothing but noiae in what I have said. One consolation that the government have is that they will not be bored with opposition apeeohea from many members, and I trust that they will be satisfied with coming dowU on me in reply themselvea, with my friend Mr. Morrison beside ma to aid them, without crushing me by the weight of all their sup- porters. I think that I have now opened un matter enough to give ua a little fun, and I am Bure you will agree with me that it would be a great pity if by any exertio;,B I ahould be deprived of toy neat by the attempt which IS to be made for that purpose,— we would not in that case hear the Attorney General at (ill, the Prov. Secretary would not have an opportunity to display the eloquence wliich reputation ascribes to him, nor would the member for Annapolis, (hon. Mr, Troopi be able to show how he can discourse on po- litical affitira Sometimes a man comes here with a reputation and never gets the oppor- tunity of making it cood,-that will hardly be the case now, for I trust the government will pay Bulfioient attention to ujy remarks to oblige me with an answer. Hon. Attt. GENEBAt.-I do not intend to make a very long speech in answer to the ob- servations which have fallen from the hon member who has just spoken. There is not much occasion that^I should do so, for there IB ;iit;d or QotbiDt* iu ihai epeeoh that I dis- approve of. It w«s an excellent speech in favor of Canada, and as the ad vcoate of Cana- da, the hon. gentleman has acquitted himself ffliffirifioently. He quoted yesterday fr«« 1 .&?• J ''"» «"?«'J°'" m4 Solomo?- 1 adnJire his proverbs, and I d > not forget one very suggeBtlve proverb, ,, which he •*ys: •• even a fool, if he holdeth his tongue 18 ouniited wise; and he that holdeth hii tongue la esteemed a man of understanding •• IZn ?°K °° '•••* •d :-I should much have ?o m:k?t„'l'°'''°S •'*'« observations I in?end OD«rn„ I'Tk*'" '° abeyance uutil the dis- whVnh K.a K **"? ^?"". °^ Confederation, hnn i 'k^'? 'ncidentally mentioned by the 5b H^Tk**" '«^I°yerness. had been brough? on by the resolutions on the Bubject beine mIXk,"'''"'^!''- v?"* I ctnnot-'aHowthf ^^K» ^«'*''' 'P**^** '*'''"' •"" been uttered to- night to go to the country without meetine it dLiif 11'-*K"*\"^,.«'^'°e " '^"t indienlnt denial which it will meet from one end of the country to the other. It contained not onfy a alender upon the men around these benches, cut a Blander likewise on the loyalty of Nova Bootia; and when the gentleman who deliver. !i- Af A" '■l?^^ *°^ solitary, without V^Ja *''?■*' <'o"«ag«e» of his who brought «25 f"u 1'^°, "^^ '*'<' country, and when he undertook to lecture the young members of the House on modesty, he should surely have held hia tongue in a little subjection. He owed an apology to the people of this conn- try for voting away the rights and privileges which every man in Nova Scotia holds delr, hnl ,-°"*K-^'''f "^"^''^O'*' the leader of the opposition I should leave to my masters, — at the risk of being thought cruel enough to pour water on a drowning animal, — at the risk of calling down on my devoted head the arm of that mighty giart, who offered yes- terday to take alone and unaided, the six best men in the house — not boys like myself— and who, I presume, when backed by Ij is for- midable follower, would say with a celebrated Kootch warrior of old — "Oome one come ill— tbis rook shall fly From its firm bate as soon as I, — " assuming all these risks, and an amount of assurance perhaps not becoming to so young a member, I cannot let the present opportu- nity pass without saying a few words on one or two subjects contained in the remarkable speech made yesterday on the floors of this House by Mr. Blanchard. And I feel hope- ful that I may escape being entirely annihi- lated when I turn to the history of my name- sake of old, and remember that with a smooth stone he slew the giant of Gath. But, sir, I trust you will not think I intend any serious assault on my learned friend, for I can as- him with a couple of pebbles gathered from the dry bed of the torrent of his own eloquence. I feel also that the risk I am rnn- ning is uot so great after all, as I have heard 12 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS 111 i! "[d tb»t the lion will not injure a mouie. and th»t M old ▼eter»n will teldoin draw his blade anleas he meet a foeman worthy of bit The flrat pebble which I shall ehy at tbfr leader of the oppoiitioc ia the iSohool Bill I thsught when the learned member aeaerted in hii place yeeterday that he was better aox quatDted with theaontimeDte of the people in tt>e eastern aection of the province than anv other man— and that he was unaware of any di8«atnfac«>on with that bill— that his memo- ry muat have failed him in that particular It may be a dream, but itseemsto meeo won- droui like reality that I cannot help thinking there may be some truth in it, .hat one of the reaaoDfl given by the late got,:rnment. WUioh the hon. gentleman sometimes aupport- e1, why they would not lake the voice of the people of this Province on the question of Confederation wag that the people were dise*- tistied with the working of the school bill which they had given them— a bill which in tbeir estimation entitled them to the grati- tude not only of the present, but also of fu- ture generationp, And. if I mistake not, the late Premier of Nova Scotia, in his place in the Dominion Parliament at Ottawa, attempt, ed to make that Parlianent believe that the result of the late elections in Nova Scotia was not because the people were diseatitfied with Confederation, but beoAuse they were dJssa* tisfied with this school bill. And yet the hon mennber, if you believe his statement made on the flaors of this house, heard with surprise for the first time from my lips that the coun- try was not enlirely satisfied with that measure. I was much amused at the vehemence of the hon. member when bringing down his fi- nunoial stat*ment; and when he pledged his I take it, political reputation, upon the cor- rectness of his statements, I wondered if there was to be found within the Province of Nova Scotia n pawn broker who would advance the hon. geatleman the value of a grot upon the article in question. If I understand the drift of the gentleman's remarks they were that this Province had been the gainer, and large- ly the gainer, financially speaking, by the act of Confederation. Allow me to turn th- attention of this House for a few moments to the financial ttatement brought down by the Hon. Mr. Rose and laid on the table of the Dominion Parliament, and I think I shall be able to show Jhat the hon. gentleman has made some slight errors in bis calculations which might depreciate the value of the arti- cle he staked, if such a thing was wiibin the range of possibility. The very ingenious manner m which the learned gentleman at- teaiiited to couple the revenues of next year with those of this, for I take it our financial year ends on the Ist July next, reminds me of a story I once heard of &u Irishman whom • farmer hired to thrash his grain; not hear* ing the fliil going the farmer went to tho barn and asked his man what he was at The reply was " catching rats." Upon being asked how many he had, he said, '* when I get the one I am after r.._\4. another one I will fiave two." I exceedingly regret that I have been un able to l»y i-py hand on Me. Ilose'a Beport, Vlt} r" ''■^" ™«mory make this stk.ement : Take from the debit side of the account the interest chargea. and put in its place the in- terest on eight millions forfive months, take .h^J^A°^ 'u ^e contraction account which should be charged asainst the eijjhl millions, take also the subsidy charged, aod put in its place the amount we are entitled to for fl»e months, take also the arrears of 1866-7 from both sides of the account, and you will find mat the Dominion received for the five months, more than they paid, $152,400 eoual to about $1000 per day, and that it muTbe recollected was under our own tariflF; and yet if we believe the statement of the learned gentle- turn the attention of this House for a few moments to the tariff of the Dominion, and compare it with the late tariff of Canada. In carefully comparing the two tariffs, I find .^!i 1 V '"^o"' ^'"' *f '^8 alterations being against Nova Scotia, and some being in her tavor. Spirituous liquors of various kinds have an addition of 10 cents per gallon, and playing cards 10 per cent. A cfrtain ckss of molasses 18 reduced 18 10 cents per gallon: black tea 3i cents per lb. ; flour 25 cents per parrel and packages 15 per cent. The addi- «?? onn '?rr" "*',' '".''"' * difterenoe of some * 7.'"""i that on playing cards will amount to so little I do not take tbem into account. The article of flour will not make much difference inasmuch as Canada does not import it to any large ex'ent. Molasses will bn quite an Item but as it is only one class I have been unable to ascertain the amount. The same n,l?f.'^-^,,^V*' «"'*"' *'«o °f Packages. ?h •L^'"k^,"'" ^'i"''« ''" »gree with me Nova Sa I** *°°® °^ ^^^ account is against Now let me turn attention for a few mo. ments to the difference between the late tariff of Canada and the late tariff of Nova Scotia. ijanRda imported in the year endiini* Sph* 30. 1866, li553,802,310, andScteS ^7 So I ijo, the average duty being 13 58 per 'cent. JNova Scotia imported in the same year end- as duty $1,226,398, being an average duty of 8 5-8 per cent. Applying an average Cana- dian duty to the imports of Nova Sootia instead of $1,226 398 we have #1,959,412, or a difference of S732.014. And this, It muat be recollected, is taking into account the free goods as well as those upon which duty i. A i^fi?' """"ng the whole importations. And this difference is a sum which Nova Scolia pays into the treasury of the Domin- ion, and for which Quebec and Ontario pay into the treasury no equivalent. If I am in f"°uu^ 'J***® calculations, I will be extreme- ly obliged to tho hon. leader of the Ooposi- tion to point out to me where I err. ' Now add these two amounts together, and you will find something over one million doliars annually which Nova Saotia will lose by Confederation. Add to this amount the in- ternal—I mean the internal-revenue fax, (they are both the same to my mini,) and the newspaper postage tax, the Bank tax. rr^iea is again i»kea out of the people by allowing heir banks to charge 1 per cent additional, and you have such a sum as Blue- noee— if I read the eigne of the times aright, OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 13 ii, ftnd ought to be, unwilling lo pay for the pmilrge of belonging; to lo Ttut t Doroinion. Dr. MvBBAx Btid:— In riling to address the House, I may say that I would not have made any remarks upon the answer to the Speech, if it bad not been fur the Fxtraordinary ept>eah of the bon. member for loverDesi. la louiiisv at ths amount of braggadooio ezh'- bited, and the bold assertions which he made without proof, I was reminded of the story told me by a fiiend of mine: n acquaintance of his had prepared a speech which he sub- mitted to the judgment of his friend, asking: after its delivery "Is it not sound?" " Yes," was the reply, "it is sound, and it is all sound." We oin apply the same re- mark to the hon. member's speech appropri- ately, fur it was sound and nothing else. He commenced by speaking ati an old member, and lecturing the young members of this House; and when I listened to that lecture, and saw the position which t e assumed iu challenging the government and all their fol- lowers to come on hand to hand, and foot to foot, I was almost inclined to think that we were to have a pugilistic encounter. An old member should have set a better example, and should not have oblipred the Speaker to call him to order. Before I look at the merits of the question, T must tell the hon. gentleman that be is wrong in bis philosophy as well as in'his assertions; he said that larce bodies have a tendency to become smaller, and small bodies a tendency to grow larger. If he had studied his philosophy more carefully he would have found the reverne to be the case, and so it will be found with the Anti- ponfederate party, — we are large, the Confed* erate party is small, and, following the law of nature, we are growing larger, while our opponents are growing smaller by degrees and beautifully less. The bon. member as- serted that the financial condition of the Pro« Tince was better than it ever was before. When I heard that assertion I felt it to be what in our county we call a Confederation truth. Confederation, we know, is based on an untruth, for the preambleof the act de- clares that Nova Scotia desired a Union with the other Provinces. The gentlemen who penned that assertion knew it to be untrue, and the bold statements of the hon. member for Inverness are just like one of these truths. When I heard him make the assertion to which I referred, I thought " he is a bold man," and that brought to my recollection the fact that when we see a man on the street pulling off his ooat, rolling up his sleeves, and challenging people to an encounter, we generally set him down aa a coward and a braggart at heart. Without going minutely into the question, because we are not in a position to state ac> nurately the condition of our financial affairs I will give a short financial statement, which will be plain and intelligible to the House and the country. Take first the whole rev- enue which we are to draw under Confedera- tion, the eighty cents per head, and the addi- tional donation of $60,000, and we will have the sum of !i!3'x!4,UU0. The local revenue we will say covers $142,000, making in all $466,000. It must be remembered that the roTenae derivable from the coal mines Ib small, in conae^ucnoe of the abrogation of the Reciprocity Treaty, and when I mention that subject I must remark that the abroga- tion was to a large extent brought about by the action of the Canadians themselves, by placing local taxes uo American guuda which they imported, and by encouraging maraud* ing parties from the Southern States to in- vade the Northern territory and rob their banks. It is my firm belief that while this unholy alliance lasts there will be little chance of the benefits of that treaty being restored. I have stated the total reven je as Q arly as it can be approximated, — now let us look at some of the services which arH to be provided for out of it. Take Education first:— On the let May, 1868, we mutt pro- vide fur that service $156,000, and after that $78,00), "naking $234,000 for Education alone. Then as to the Civil Qovernment, that will cost $10,000; the Crown Land De« p\rtment, $16,000; Mines and Workr, $14.- 000; Luuatio Asylum, $30,000; Ferries, $5,000; Navigation Securities, $10,000; Ke« lief, $66,000; Poors' Asylum, $13,000; Le- gislative Expenses, $30,000. The new Poor Asylum is to cost $81,000, of which the Province is to pay two thirds, making $55,- 000; Provincial Exhibition, $6,000; Agri> culture, $6,000; Immigration, $4,000; Prints ing, $6,000; Coroner's loquests, $1,500; Miscellaneous, $12,000; making a total of $458,000. When gentlemen consider the services which I have mentioned, the sums which I have put down will not be said to be too large. In addition to this $458,000 we will have to provide, as has been asserted and not contradicted, for half a million of debt in excess of the eight millions. For this according to the Union Act we must pay to Canada five per cent. If the statement that the excess will be to that amount beinoorreot why did not the hon. gentleman, having ac- cess as be had to ad the public documents, contradict the assertion ? It will be remembered that time after time the former Financial Secretary was asked by Messrs. Annaud and McLelan to bring down the account from 30th September to 31st March, and he did not do so. When we look at the state of the account, and see the sums expended in delegations to England and Brazil, and the defalcations in some of the accounts, we cannot be surprised that he declined to do so. It is quite possible that a collector might under an ordinarily vigilant government keep back his receipts for three months, and the government discharging him then might b-i acquitted of blame; but the Tupper Qovernment, of which Mr. Blan- cbard h»s come forward as the champion, kept in a oolleotor for more than a year after he became a defaulter, allowing the Province 'to be swindled thus out of $20,000. They only exhibited an account to 30ih September, 1866, although it was important to know the exact position we were in as we were bound to pay interest on the sum by which our debt exceeded the eight millions. If the ex- cess be $500,000. we must pay for intei'est $25,000; add that to the $458,500, and we have $483,500. Subtract from this the re- venue we are to derive and we have a deficit of $17,500, leaving the road and bridge ter- 14 vice out of the naettion Vmt »i.. u the oouDtrv th^f nn. a^l '" •"'' "' inc T tk.-b lu ■'K"*a on HuQday morn- placed OD the bold .MeMionof'^K'r" °" *>« ber. and I .ill «!.♦ "'°''°/*''« ''°n. mem- rul./rei\:i'iu^Vf.-'„°i'e --liter more eion which we are vef tn hi? ^.^'"' '''»<'"•• of Confederation Th. S " °° *'** question made the bold a,,ertiIS'thiMh.'"r''''^ *'«° gr;hff£3 r-- ^^^^^ the Bohemr It w J m^ ? neoeeBary to perfeot ernor to refer othfJ"'* "'''P?'" ^^""^^e Gov- when wefiaTK in JniiuVrin^r nf'.'^K'' P"^*°* within the circle of nn! if °'"'"'®°°"°"y vacant? I do not eay what 'JhL' ^'"- '"'">'''« but for months , hat Zaa th« .""'? ''"' county. When fh.f • ?? "* °"« >» my think^t can be ltd thi't' °"'',^ ^'J "°t 5^^SKffafre'„,-;t^-otth'^^ amine the pSc Too ' S ."'•^"'""'"i'' '?" that the bon. gentleman felt ih J? "'i **""u^' would rathe- t h «» Vko ■ relt that sorely,— he templall 7ht v"«f ^- «*"'^f«'i"° that we con- mScatVn; betieen'thr'^r.' m the com- andthemetroSra"nd^' r?nt;c°ouSe"wi^' DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS beVs^a^te^XTThT"-'; ""'1'^^' '^'^o^- »«t"- X-'^^-A^'A^ °«se save me from thLthilV A^ti.3icuDjrotlia(j been opened ud "anrtT« the hon. member appeared to endorse alHh^ the previouB GoTer^ment did Tr. that matter ofVh"r?ad'*5:,"""V"- ♦?♦'"• '"'•to'y has been on^nf ?». P"""'"" '••^•t that wori fh? ;tK ';v^.r W'l^^^^^ GovernmeLt saw fluo ..i 'ri*""^. '"'-^hi under the advfce a. 1 .* • "J °°' '" '"tiont Fieminir T„ !u • • ^ "" informed, of Mr fo mJkf I wi°h'!!t'"ol"^'7'"°'' I •"" goi'-i not oast anv r.fll» ""derstood that I dS persona lyl^bew?. 1°° "P^° M'- ^''"ning . "nmen . and for .k/"""' °' ''^ G"'- been perDetrSh./h. • '"' '''"'"'Ss which have «um3f;oThe;a,b''uVLr„l'° ^'r«' I Po- tions. Nor would T „M^°*,"P°° ^'^ *°«t">0' 80 largely intw.L""!/??': \ t*"*' work made subservienT f^ ?' ' l\^^ •^"' '°*'i *•• nadi«niz»d anTso dp ^°°'^i"*»i<>"-80 Ca- those whoVovern Jn^"'* Sootianized bad would not have been n!^?T.^^" '"'"^le been f jr ConfederaH.^ ^ s'*'"^ '^ '' '^''^ »»» the contracts hart h" ^'"°'' """'*''" *^'" was brought to h-'" ^"*° ""^ ?'«•"« tors; mason work «I "^""i I''* °°"'"0' said to have hPP„ T ' ""'!?*''* "*"«•> »»« was generally usert" ^°"'* " *•>•' "»»oh dered to be n„nL •.~°"^°'""y ''e'^g or. atead of the best eLl^r ^"»"" """e in- whilethebo.tracte had t„T H«= ..-'ore y paso '1.3 address in answer t" the speech from the throne. It is not my place to defend the acts of the late government, but I think that the clause which refers to the unsatisfactory state of the finances is at least premature. If the state* ment which it contains be correct the fact is deeply to be deplored,— if not it is surely wrong to proclaim the fact that we are bank- rupt. The hon. member for laverncss stated yesterday boldly and emphaticaily that there was no foundation for such a statement, and produced fig. es in proof of his assertion, defying the government to contradict him. The oontradlotlon haa not been given, and the government have admitted that they are not in a paaaion to give it, inasmuch as they do not know the state of our affairs. I con- tend It IS a duty which they owe to the ooun. try and the House, before passing the ad- dress, to proa-iue on the tble the papers Which will sustain their posiiion. The ftc ures which we have just heard do not oon. •rovert. ana it is not pretended that thev controvert, the statements of .ny hon. fnend If the government do not juatiiy th^i: posi^ hon, the country has a right to btlieve and will believe that that paragraph was inserted In the address to keep up the dissatisfaction which they have used every effort to etimu- ate for the last few months. As to educa- tion, I am glad that the government have taken the matter in hand; our present system has a great many advantages, but it appears to press severely on ceitain classea of the people, and I truit that such amendments will he adopted as will make it less purthensome while securing the advan- tages of a general education of our people. The Attorney General, a day or two ago, referred to the weakness of the opposition T if the gofernment be strong, I trust they will be merciful. As to myself, I am here not to oppose or obstruct the public business, but to nse every exertion to promote every men. aura tending to the advancement and im- provement of Nova Scotia, whether brought forward by the government or by individual members. In discharging theee duties, Iwill be protected m all the rights of a member of this Assembly. The debate was adjourned. The House adjourned until 2i o'clock. , Aftcrnoan ^eaaioa. The House resumed at 2 30. DEBATE ON TPE ADDRESS. The adjourned debate was resumed. Mr. louNO said:— I do not intend to go at any great length into the question of Confed- eration, for the country knows pretty well all that can be said on that sutject. One of the beet illustrations of that question is the Stamp Act. The gentlemen who were the cause of that Act being extanded to us are not here now, thank Providence,— but how degrading such a law ia. If we were just coming out of a war like that which they have had in the United States, I could under- stand It, but here we are just commencing the government of the Dominion. Such en- actments caused a revolution in the adjoining country, and if they should do so here who are to blame? Who are to blame for the Fiotou disturbance? Those 32 who voted here for Confederation. If the country were to rebel thrv would be the cause. The hon. member for verness says we had better not brag before are out of the woods,— we arc in the woods uow. it is true, and who put us there? He and his colleagues did it, and we must get out as best we can. The hon. geii- tleman reminds me nf & />iia»«<.»o.. :_ ..__ -a Dickens' stones, called Tom-all alone,— if he 18 not all alone ho is pretty nearly so. All who pposed the scheme of Confederation have been aooused of disloyalty,- what has OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. W b«cn the tMt of loyalty in thii coantry T Ac* oordingr to m portion oftbe picis • m»n muit bawl "dod uve the Queen" at etery public meeting, — next, he tuutt extol thoec thirty two men aa tbe tavioura of their oouutry, and then he niuM loake iure to ahute the Americana. I rcepfot the Qaeen aa much ai any man, butloondemn tbe UritisH govern ment for the way in wbioh they hav« treated aa in ignoring tbe petitioni of 30,000 or 40,a 000 of uur people. Our first duty is to Nova icotia, and it will be time enough to call ns traitors when we are disloyal to her- Aa to the subject of EJuoation, in Falmouth great dissatisi'aotion exists, aiid many people say get us back to the old law as nearly as pos- sible We have no lobools there now. As to the formation of the government, [ would ask who recommended the Governor to send for Mr. McUeffey 7 Perhaps it was tbe bun. member for laverneM himself,— I should like to bear him deny it. 1 see, however, no ob* jeotions to tbe choice, — Mr. Mollell'ey is a near neighbor of mine, and I estetm him much. When first Confederation was brought for- ward we were tuld, as an inducement to adopt it, that we would have the protection of the British Government. What protection have we got from that Government 7 The coun- try bas been settled for upwards of 100 years, during 50 of wbioh England has been at war. Did we create those wars 7 No, but we had to suffer by them. It has been like a man pushing me into difficulties, and tben claim- ing my gratitude for getting me out of them as well as he could again. We have been too fond hitherto of running after Governors and persona of that description, instead of look- ing to the improvement of our own country. We h&ve made the country what it is, we have built its houses and itt> ships, tbe coun- try is our own, and weshouid bie able to say whether we will be Confederated or not. How waa the last American war brought about? By tbe celebrated orders in Council declnring the whole world under blockade as to trade with the ports ^r 0v:rtain nations. Under those orders a ship bound from Lima to New York was taken, — that war half ruined Nova Scotia, but we had nothing to do with its origin. As to tbe Fenians we need no pro* teotion from them. In the British Parliament we were spoken of like an old shoe, and told '* you may go whenever you like." Mr. Smith said :— If the hon. member foi- Inverness, in inaugurating the discussion on the address in answer to His Excellency's speech, had confined himself to the clause touching the financial condition of the coun- try, I Bbould not have occupied the time of the House, because the duty of sustaining that clause devolved upon the Finance Min- ister, and upon that question no subordinate member was called on to defend tbe admiaia> tration. And if, at a time when the Qorern- ment were in a posit'.on to give tbe coantry all tbe information that was required, he bad charged them with wiltuliy micstatiog our position, I would have felt that he was pur* that which he adopted in this instance. In langi\,&ge strongly denunciatory, he has at* taoksd the government knowing that they 3 were not in » petition to plaM themselves in a fair and proper light; he baa undar> taken to tell tbe Hoaso that tbe statements made in tbe address are utterly untrue, and he has boxed in a quantity of figures in sup- port of hie aMertiuo, He likewise lc!d us that the government were our masters and betters,— with ibat declaration I am entirely at issue— they are the servants of the pub- lic, and tbe tenure by which they hold their positions depends on the confidence which they can obtain from tbe representatives of the people in this House. I felt when he made the remark that he did so either for the pur- pose of placing a stigma on the government or else to place us in a false position. I re« gretted much the temper and style of the hon. member's address, though I f el that he deserves some consideration at our hands, representiDg as ne does the fragment of a party wbiob has been swept out of political existence. He appears here as the champion of that party, for there is no other voice within these walls to resuscitate their Almost defunct opinions. He told us that tbe gov* ernment had no right to insert such a clanse in the answer to tbe speech, and what rea> Bon does he give ? That oar financial affairs are in such inextricable confusion that the government are not able to shew the House and the country what our state under Con* feieratiuu is. He admits that the adminis- tr I iun, of which he was the leader, left the j . i.io atiairs in suoh a confused and tangled condition that the government are incapable of bringing down such a statement as will shew wnether we are bankrupt or not, and therefore he pronounces their assertion ut< terly untrue. He made a statement by which he sought to make it appear that our financial state is better than it war under the old condition of the Province. I ask him if the Executive Council ot to day ar? not on* able, from causfs which ho himself assigned, to come down with a full a ad candid expla- nation of affairs? If they are, how is it that he can give the information which they are unable to supply 7 I can only account for it on the ground that he has secret sources of information and facilities which tbe govern^ ment are denied. Therefore I say he did not act fairly with the government in attacks ing them on that pa^'t of the speech which refers to our financial aflairs. I feel full confidence in the gentleman occupying the post of Finance Minister and in his colleagues of tbe Executive, and believe that they would not have made that assertion in the address unless they were able at the proper time to show that the country is not in the state of prosperity which it occupied before the pas* sage of the Confederation Act. Tbe hon. member told us that our finances are in an excellent state, and in the same breath he said that tbe accounts -'ere not in a fit state to be exhibited to the House. It required nothing more to justify the conduct of ibe Government than that admission, and I ask who is to blame for the accounts being in such a state ? On whose head rests the re- spoaaibility {av ihi.t Uiisatisfactory condiiioa ot our aifairs ? Does it not lie on the late Administration, and that which preceded them|7 Last session the GoTernment were 18 Mi!'^ u}^}^ 'T'*'^ *!?T'' * •t*»e«aeiit of the pub* the boD. member ansumed the reins of Gn» ernment without the acoounte having been ture^o £ n^ '''•'•""^ knowing the eVndU ture of the Government precedinr big. With L^r^ihat .'. ']IT. ^^^"^ •''^ country can he Msert that the Address contains an untruth ? The clause in the Speech says : """"'"^ ' DEBATES AND PR0CEEDING3 v^^' "*"■*' ^ ''*'"° 'hBt the Qnaao al alTAlra of the th^&'/r'^J- '"""f'^o'y coDd'lon and ,f.t the funa« at our di.po,»i will rot be eufflcient tr ieet the rtqalrements of the country." "'""^•"' "^ -aeet iMk if enough has not transpired in this diBouesion to conv noe every mSn that our financial condition is not Rood. Is it not a fact thfct a commission had to be appointed to investigate the accounts and report ? The tr.« T^'°.^ ^" ^**° '""'^e comes with an ill ml.. i^^ * ""^ ;'''*" ' "P"'"' of «h»t com, mission cannot be presented. I must admit ?n?h?H',"'K" '•"' ^°"- B«"««°»an has evinced «i.i^* df'cbarge of the duty whicL he con- «fi J* '!?^°"'^ "P°° *''°'> • good deal of fKi"H''''"?''"*i"°- If ♦here be any- at the amount of it which the hon. gentleman possessed when he threw down thf gaun"" defianny to the whole House. I almfst f.n- BUr^'J'^**' "S'.otheold farce in which Bombastes Furioso is represented as plaoine out his boots with the ii:.cription- ^ "He who dare these boot* displace Mu»t meet Bombaetes Furioio face to face " forlorn hope, and must have determinid tLt the result should be compensated for by the energy displayed in the undertaking. There is a certain class of warriors who attempt to oT^n^l ""''; ^r t>y '"•king a larle amouS" IaZI'a' 't*^ ^^V.^ '"•" ""> "o ics which he ^. W- \ """'"^ no' h«'P thinking, when he told us that the last clauie of tb^ Address thVthV:!f.K*"'^'P^*'P'«°^ Nova Scon" «f 4 '^ " ^^^ B*fety-vaive for the loyalty rJT kP°"*^ "** •»"♦ »>»» for him and his redoubtable efforts we would be driftin" down to annexation, throwing away our loy'^ ero^.. .„°r "r""""" "ountry-that a Zl, gross and malignant slander on theii.telli. gence and loyalty of Nova Scotia never was perpetrated It is but the rehash of The statement that you bad only to prick the skin of an Anti- Confederate to find annex- » on sentiments. Such stories have Tea fully circulated, and I repeat here, from mv knowledge of the gentlemen represeptingtK party on the floors of this Rouse, tl- t fouler ofli"*""^."'!". P"Pe<"ted on any body •o «.,i^ * "*"'*. *? ""^ one of those who are BO ready to proclaim their own loyalty aad Aft«7h«l?^''r''^^ '^'" ownohWters After the very large amount of trash and bunkum circulated in the interei , of the tLT'"^"' P^'y* '♦ ■" no wonde? we hear itTll^a *PP'-?"ohing annexationism; but ", ' not the sentiment nf the body of the peo Se'iW 'ThrR -^K The feeling'of tiejeo, pie 18— the British Governmonf h,« «,;!— SS*r.!'°" °°"*°^ ^'•"'n Pubrio'meVoc'o'uI 0*Snfrv 'hJTl'*'" ?,' ^^''^•♦'"' ^^om this country, have been deceived into believing that the passaee of the Union Act was in uni. formitywith the wishes of the people of ths country;" and I firmly believe that had thie men represented truly the views of the in- habitants of the Province, we would have had meted out to us the ssse f-it play and bdward IsUnd and Newfoundland. Under these circumstances, it is th^ duty of our people to place themselves at the feet of the Sovereign, and to ask a consideration of ;h!l.^'''"'^,.*'yu°°n»t^t«tional means. When. therefore, the hon. gentleman says that but for him we would drift into annexation, he ittlecoinprehends the views and feelings of the peop eon this question, and the fixed de- termination which they have taken at every hszard-excepting that of detachment froin 2hi«KV°'K"""?''-i« «'"'''« off the incubus which has been placed on us by means so re prehensible Af.er telling ui, that he .Vnew ♦^h.f^/K°^'^*^ be loyal, the hon member said tothi^ *'h""J°*''^''P'«°»» ^" insulting to them. He admitted that Nova Scotians area oyal and law-abiding people, and vet he "Winuated that he was the only loyal m^an n this House I trust he will explain how that can be when he next addresses us .,„, n!*'..*o''* "" <•'»' although the Anti- union feeling may be etrong%i,hin the e Iri? "7!u °°* «o outside. Does he yet un- derstand the people of Nova Scotia, or is he laboring under *he hallucination tha because f„'h^'»";^''' *° '^^' ^'' ••«»'"■•> here, that 8 »h« r*''^'"' " ?° "' fceirngs re- belled against the manner in which it wwoar riPd, and they felt it necessary to rise^owTf they never did so before, to express their con. IT.T' f"^ ''^".. ♦'•«*'' "•'Stance to the passage of an act which had not come before thm for an expression of their opinions SnT I"** "I'y * '«.y*' ^nt " liberty. loving people; too long have we lived under ouf IZ'yV,^"' *° appreciate its blessing"' and resent the act by which our rights and id ?n d •)?" "n'^r*°°*'' without our consent, and in defiance of our wishes, to change ou^ political institutions, transfer our revenues and place us in the humiliating position of be ng stripped of ualf our powers. All the principal materials of our prosperity have ihh whT^"".^ *" Vne'^hborTg country ^}±^^'°^^^b%yeno interest in common These are views entertained throughout the oountrj, and therefore the hon. meiSber little c^nTT'^^^'^' P"^"° sentiments when he can make the assertion to which I have re, tion Act referred torn the Governor's Speech has worked adm rably, he is much misK: whIm, h ® °k""" '^''*"'' connected with it, which have been most damaging to the edu- eatioaa. interests; iu some localities families have been unable to get their children educa. uid^°."3 V"' ^"'♦'•i°'« W"e soisparsely popu- lated, and I presume that it is to remedy evils OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 19 )ik« thece tbtt the measure is to be dealt with. When I oommenoed these observationi, I ctated that I did not oome forward to under- take the Tindioation of the government. Tbe Provincial Secretary has assured us that when he brings down his estimate, he will be able to explain the true position of sffiirs, and to sustain tbe remarks made in the an- swer to the addreis. I will, therefore, not prolong my remarks further than to observe that this attack has been made upon a govern* ment peculiarly oiicamstanced : they are just inaugurated— they have found the financial affairs in a confused and tangled state— they are largely composed of inexperienced men desirous of doing faithfully their duties, but surrounded by duties of no ordinary charac* ter. These circumstances should have in« duoed a postponement of the attack until they were in a position to bring down tbe public accounts and shew their statements to be true. Mr. EiBstoN said : — In rising to address the House, at this time, I do not do so be- cause I deem it at all necessary to defend the government of the day, they are perfectly able to defend themselves from any attack that may come from the hon. member for In* verness. But I am desirous of shewing to ' the country that, if under our altered circum - stances, when we can so ill afford expenditure, we are put to an adrlitional expense of some $300 or $400 in forwarding the answer to tbe Speecb, tbe country may thank the hon. member for it. Knowing something of tbe talent and parliamentary experience of that hon. sentleman I was led to expect some- thine dignified and noble— comiug up to the standard of an orator; but when I saw him assuming a pugilistic attitude, pulling up his coat sleeves, olenchiiig his fist, and cballeng* ing his opponents to come on, I was remind'* ed of the prize ring rather than of the legis- lature. I expected also that he would have handled his subject differently. Where was the necessity for going iuto so much extra- neous matter at this stage of our proceed* ings7 Why wade into the heap of rubbish that the late government heaped over o'^r heads, but which I fully anticipate wili be cleared away to the satisfaction of the coun- try before tbe Session is over? When the go- vernment promised to lay on the table a clear and distinct statement of the financial condi. tion of the Province, where was the necessity for frittering away the public time and money in discussing matters that must be discussed hereafter 7 When he charges us with disloy- alty and Fenianism, let him remember that if there be any such growing feeling in Nova Scotia, he and hia party must answer for it. For 108 years no charge of disloyalty, in act or word, could be brought against a Nova Sootian ; but he and his friends, by trampling on the rights of their countrymen, have in- stigated tbe element of which ho predicts so many evils. Before the Session closes I will be called on, in deference to the wisbss of those whom I represent, to lay before the House a local tranxaction, shewing, to a great extent, how the Government to whose acts the hon. mem- ber was a party, dealt with every matter that oame under their control. It will be my duty to ask for a committee to enter into a full investigation of the manner in which the road moneys of Victoria have been spent, or rather mis-spent. A law was passed legis- lating away $4000, for which tbe road and bridge service of Victoria is made answerable. I ask what kind of legislation was that to sanction 7 I will have to ask where that borrowed money is— what has become of it T for it should not have been drawn from the treasury without the House knowing some- thing of it. This matter reminds me nf an anecdote of a schoolmaster, who, wishing to test the mathematical qualifioations of his class, proposed to them this question — "Suppose I have a pla:e of pie; I give to Richard a third, to Tbomas a third, and to John a third — how much will be left?" A little boy answered, " Tbe plate, sir !" We may put the matter much in that way. It cannot be denied that Nova Scotia once had full control of her revenues; they have left us now full control of the chest without the revenue. When the question comes fairly before us in the resoluuona which have been promised, I will venture to show tbe country to its heart's content, that instead of get- ting 80 cents a head, we do not get one soli- tary cent, but that, on the contrary, the idea of a revenue from Canada is a perfect deception. We do not get the 80 cents a head, but Canada has the privilege of draw- i .g from us about $380,000 more in revenue than we ever paid before. With our revenue increasing as it has been— for in tbe last ten years it has increased 250 per cent — what would we have had to expect in the future? I will also clearly show, before the Session expires, that it would be better for us to be tributary to Great Britain, and pay taxes to her, than to remain united to a country with which we have no sympathy, commercially, socially, or in any other way; and I will defy the hon. member for Inverness, with all his powers of eloquence and gesticulation, to show that I am wrong. We cannot, by enacting or re- enacting any law, modify tbe scheme so as t} make it acceptable to tbe country, for tbe people will submit tr> nething but Re- peal, and will show to the world that tbe men with whom that hon. member was associated have, by deception, corruption and fftisehood of the meanest kind, de- prived Nova Scotia of tbe dearest rights which a country can possess. Mr. Chambers said:— I presume that some of the greater guns are waiting for those of smallei' calibre to oome to the front, as that is the order adopted in military tictics, and therefore I will proceed to make a few obser* vatlons. I was not sent to this Atsembly for my tilking powers, but because I knew the difference bttween ten cents per bushel on grain and grain free. I can give tue hon. member for Inverness a character for polite- ness in tome private dealings he had with me, but I am sorry thtt I cannc ^ spe*k so highly of conduct in tbisdebitte. It mutt be tiiat he laboring under a meiitii baliu- ciukton. Wbenweseea dog coming iDt3 town and setting up for a brag, we find all the small ours barking tt him and some of them snapping at hia heels. We know alio ■ ^6 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS of • oert%ln individatl mentioned in heathen mjthology. who wai erery where in vainer- able excepting in bis heeJ. Now if I cannot hit the hon. gentleman on the head, I may be able t . t»p him on the heel. I remember a itory tjidofacertiinppoiting f*mily in a remote village m taig Province, their name waa Wilkira, and the father ani the two Gons went out one day into the woodi. The old man ttipped ahead a few paces and presectly fired his piece.-»p came the boys and found that their father had killed a bear, but they were not content without having their ehot and io Lewis firtd and Martin fired at the dead bear. If we all take our abet we may kill the bear too IfMaitin does not shoot him dead and our Vail does not throw his oloak over him, some of the rest of us may give him a chance shot that will make him •opry for his attack. » »nm He intimated that the country had sent ud here thirtj-six know-nothings who had bttt>r •It quiet until they learn somtthing. If it be true that the House has not the ttlent which It should possess, wo blame no others than he and his colleagues aupporling Con- federauon. The bett men of the country have gone tD Ottiwa, and I told my cooeti. tuents that we would not have as much power as the Colchester Com t of Sessions when we were done with Confederation. But if we cannot all tilk we can think; there are 36 plain and honest men to look after the busi- nessof the country, oaring nothing about delegations, but doing their duty promptly In the summer ctnvass I talked of little mati tera, and left the larger subjects for my col- leagues; that was a f(»ir divieion of the work and we know the world is made up of little things, I will pursue much the same course tj-day. ihe hon. member said that the speech stHedthat we were bankrupt; whether the asaeition is true or not I cannot say, but 1 know that this scheme of Confederation has Ptt ddifipened the enterprise and hampered the energies of the people that money cannot 08 found for speculation, and they are bank- rupt iu mind at all events. As tj the ad- vances made by .Canada, we know there is a way of boxing figures so as to suppoit any assertion, and the hon. member has given us no proof in suppoit of his stntement and not sutBoient explanation as to how the money was spent. If the Union costg Canada so much, I wonder how it is that she holds us so tenaciously. When a msn gtts his hand into a bear's mouth the btst thing he oaa do istj git it out with as few scratches as piSjible, and I sometitnes wonder what Canada would tike t) Itt us go free. If they would take $000,000 we would make SlOO , 000, and gratify our people beside*. The hon. member forgot that in every c»Ke where we bad before latt motth to pay jifioo we have now tj p.ty ;g;300; he forgot t.iat the blackimith, the farmer and the shipbuilder had t,^ pay 15 per cent. Hu forgot to tjU us about tfie duty on cotton yarn, which er.t -rs so largely ict > consumption. It is always t j the intare»t of the storekeener that the nsisto- mer should go away with a nest egg in his pocket, but the new tariff has fleeced the ou»t)mer of ever j thing. In ft late number of the Ottawa Citizen I find a compantive statement of thetariflFof Sin^'"- """"J' e°* "P t3 "ippoit theDo- .^ ? mp.VT "^ ''•\r«x, Even under that ft.tement. however. New Brunswick is to pay • h.f V ™"" thing that the late Government did is ponular hirt L°Hfh*'''°'fl' blows botand aSr co'd and they are like p.gs in the water- if you only l-„ tw"" T" (r-*"""Sli they will cut their own throatj. It is more complained of than any measure ever introduced into this Legis- lature, and we have men coming to us every iYh fK''«"!:^'"rn.V.y"'^ ™»'* do something with the School Bill." How can it be popu- lar when Dr. Tuppersays that he loTt?e elections m consequence of it? The hon gentleman eeems U think that the people wili sett e down contented with the existing ftVte of thiDg8,-.the Home Secictiry made that prophecy, but it turned font to be not the prophecy of Samuel but of Siul. All their prophesHS on that side of the question turned out false, while ours have turned out more than true, for we never had the face tj fore- tell »uch matters as have coaie to pass. Our predictions have been doubled while tbei-s have; proved false as the hottomleea pit He talks about his pa.ty in the House .gfowlne- ' suppose they should grow fifty or oven • hundred per cent in the nest four years their ?sThJt?hri" "^^H^' "''^ large..-b'ut'the fa t 19 that they are decreasing every dav Th« best thing ho can do is U take hold of the rope with us, and witu along pu 1 and » strong pull and a pull altogether wnwill^c? rid of th.8 dttetted Confeder^ation ^' Mr.PnRDT8aid:-Ifitwere not for some few ciroumttinces I would have preferred giving a silent vote instead of joining in "he debate. I do not intend to travel over the figures or to review at length the argutnentj brought forward by the hon. member for In! verness. and which have bten refuted again and.igHin, but I will notice one or t,.o ex. prcasions which appeared t , me t,, come with aa 111 grace from him. When I heard Tim make use ol such expressions as -bitters and mattirs,- ''newly fledged members." and rtjcctcd of Uuiiiberiand," I thoucht hn Should have hesitited before using such epi! h! f '"k '"'' u """S of the gentlemen around these benches, representing the real and hearty Bcntimentj of the people. OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 21 I thongbt when I heftrd the hon. member's epeecbtbathe had quits misttken bis posi- tion,— qaite forgotten tbkt he was on the floori of Parliamert. He rpoke from an Ont*- rio point of view entirely, and it mutt he re- membered that that Province has benefitted in propoition aa we have BuflFered by the ion. He should have remembered that the people are bis betters, and that he does not rtflect their opinions. When he used such phraeea as he employed, and got in a towering rage, Etampins and fuming, I was reminded of a regimental officer, who, after getting on bis armour and strutting about in bis side arms, felt so terrible that he dare net look in the glai<8. Id talking about newly fledged members, be should have thought of his own position as the newly fledged leader of the late government; he had but few feathers to pluck, and the election stripped him prttty naked, leaving only one feather in his till. He told us it was an iasu't to place in tbego- vernmect a gentleman who, be said, was the rejected of Cumberland, but lit us see what foundation there was for that remark. Leok attheibflaence which hie government cxeitid to defeat Mr. Annand and myself. The un- fair and unoonttitutional influences brought to bear on the Cumberland election can hard- ly be understood by a person who was not at the scene of action. Mr. Annand went to run bis election in that county, as he bad a right to do, having been invited there by the peoi^le — the men who own the broad acres and pay the tixes, and he was enabled to say on the huttings at Amherst that alter twen- ty«five years of public life he could defiantly challenge any man to put his finger on any stain in bis public character. He was a stranger there, with no brutliera in law and fathers in law t3 aid him,— be cast himself on the public opinion and good sense of the people, and if the secret history of govern- ment influence in th»t election were read, the tiiunt about the rejected of Cumberland would hardly be applicable. The hon. gentleman should have recollected that, 88 leader of the late government, he himself was the representitive of nobody, bis governmebt never had the sanction of the people. In Cumberland, the read commis- sioufl were peddled about until tbe grant of last Session was exhausted, and then the road moneys of this year were laid under contribu- tion tj the extent of S3, 500 in order to buy votes. Commissions of the Peace were is- sued without regard to public opinion, Do- ,minion influences with po&t[na6terr on the road ^rom Truro to Amhent without the au thority of the Hoiwe — an Amheri-t seizing oflicer who had been dismissed 18 months be- fore, made a fuss, and someb )dy got his hand in the public chest to tne tune of eighteen months arrearages of pay. la reference to Parrsbiro'jl might go on enumerating mat- ters tbao would put the late government to shame; sums were expended without the au- thority of the House, aad for which ttie inter* e!t at leatt mutt be paid. Id not the hon. member for Inverness himself the rejected of Nova Sjotia, as the leader of a government which the people rejected ? The leader of tbe lata government should not be so defiant in bis t)ne; he gave his protection t) tbe men who were afraid to face their const tuenoies, and also were appointed to ofiije without being gazetted until aft^r the elect ons were over. Another observation that came with equal ill grace, was the remark about the use ot ihle room without leave. Whom were we to ask for leave? 'J'ho leader of the rejected government? We were the members return- ed to the House of Assembly by the writs of the diflerent officers, and we would have occu- pied tbe ttrett rather than ask his leave to use our own room. Had be asked leave to occupy the pet of Att >iney General to which he went by stealth ? As soon as he did so he was obliged to leave pretty suddenly. Per- sons who did not possess the public confi« dence should not use such ofi'eusive language. The hon. member gave some good advice to the young members, but that reminded me of tbe saying of Josh Billings: " to train up a child in the way he should go," you should travel that way yourself. Mr. Blancuaed said:— After the length of time which taedebate has occupied, end tbe style in which my challenge has been accept- ed, I may be permitted again to address tbe House. I offered to tike six or seven of my opponents, but ihey have piled on t:n, until, I suppose, they thought I was dead, and in case I was not, they got the hon. meo'ber fo"" Cumberland to put in a nasty little stab. But instead of being dead I am yet to the fore, and perhaps some of these gentlemen who talk about representing publiu opinion may be able to appreciate the mnrftl courage which it requires in a man almost alone to fate the whole array which tm House pre- Bbaii. My remarks have been in miny ic- fctinces most unfairly dealt with, words have been put into my mouth which I never utt^r* ed and never dreamed of utetmg, ami wliile the government have done nothing, not answering a word of my Fpeeob, those gen* tlemen, tbe newly fledged members, as they have been termed by one of themselves, after 22 JSi 'h;'fu;;V\W."'» ««» h.ve come np to ottrue. .ad tS was Dutln'h **! '<^^"" *" meet without tbeir knnS,"„J° ''u^.*''* g«vern. tween a man itrnri fJf.i?*' ditference be- tbat which hVV„* ;«„*/*''«^°°d and .t.tio^ have been told thar r .i. „''* *'"' *''"^? I c o«og my .peech I jocularly ,a 3 • -"/' "> almost alone, come .IX «!. 11^ " „= ^ "m will try my bear- Mr « ".t" f'^y"" "d I I •dmifted^hat^wben lh« r^ "*°"'^ '»"" gave up the re ns ot Jower i?/"^«^«°'ent in a state of coofusior-T ni. ^S'""« ""^ making such an «dm?;.7r,„ ? S*" '^^"med of fin.Dcelofthe"a?e°ov'„^iJ'''y "'*' *he 8 confused atate and «./»rf "" V" '° «"oh thataslight al.'eSonlhi°K '*'^ *=°''"'*^y by the ohinge of ci™ . ""^ **' rfquired put them a?ffo an "easy courT T"""' '"''^ represented as e.yi'g ^"tlp L''"-'''«° By«tem was complete i^^^l,^K'^°°*"°"»^ the k.ndness to n» Uhat awprfi^'^^'r'^*'* ""« thought or DretenrfL] » .u" ,"''"'•-1 never Whaloamrnezt? Lr IVi''"" '''^ . """"'ry. endorsed all, he, ctSnote? '"'^ """I ment in reference to thoP-f ^^''™^'' Kovern- an>>dy lookTt^lVJ'A^„":?./A''r»y.-'et DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS TnVbody loora^t Vd'^la^^'rn^'i^r 1806 and he will see ihlf in A °® ^^""*« "i «».d wa«oneof heb St* ',c^;"r°'y '"ends I condemned the policv' of .h« *'^'' ""^'■• of the day. in referpn^ » .u '*° eovernment I did say was thar^ht " '"if' •""'*'• What best in Brhish Amer ca 'an'? A' °°" «' '*'« of the impartial EdSi.;"!*''" certificate and who gave the h.iho.. "•?° examined it wo.k proVs'the V,f ,«^', 'f "-0"i-l« ofthe learn that the memberfor Pin^ ' ^'*' '° over the line with hi. i . "'°t"« can go and pronounce whether fhT' ,'" ''*" P^'^^' or bid. and the eradP« t A°"l'"" "« 6°^^ One line f.Vm sS pln." *"«'' or^'berwiso. whom I re er^B worth °f "?." »« 't""" to "Pteohes from him "" '^''" * thousand of^WMX'asrtSTh'iflJa?.'' I'' ^J"'-« the Union sentiment ,!Li*^ declared that I «aid tbat that s^nHmenf^r"'?''"' "»'«*''«• «ide ihe House th^nS and /'r^"*°1.'" Btatement, The Un on .!'„.* ^ '*''^"* the House is supported bvh.!?""*"' *"*»'" ^J^e the memberprbit „,n anvh°T°'°''"''''' «'' •ay that it issusuinTd 'lu^^^'^* ^"'«'>'^ <« ot the people yThp!^ K ""'^ "oe-nineteenth federa.e never olaime??' ^^'u"""* Anii-Con. The hon LeXr f ^'^' " nine-tenthe. tbe first waMhe'^Jenn" ^.1!^^^-!.??*? ^ .""ed : thu.to.he.tertm^'^f'ieSrnlS'hliL^";.' .* I PeV?o°SInJ*oi?..-Se1t?"« ^"'^ ' "" Speaker merely g„em!ij^ •Pologiie. The thanked him. and I am eUd f. t"" T'''^*' ^ proper to check the bZvtLr ^■" ''•°»^*»t b*te. I might sneak to i^h/r""^'** "• ^e- Cumberland of hm bett«r. 1''^°: °'«'"^«'- 'or no.put word, .n my'momh ?ha^t I di'.**^ ""'« Was the phrase -rejected of p ^'? °P' "•«• a true one? W.. il ,- °\. Cumberland " himself narrowly lan^H *'*?' ^^'- ^-'dy said the truth whlir^.r-"""'""? K I taunt? Imerelyused ?h«'^ " *'" «•"««*• that it was unoonsStio^!! '*'?•'" •'«»*"« take a man who had lo« h -""^ irregular to AttoTney^^'alrran'Tae^V-''^ '' «' " meleavetodoso- but -h °°°"""tioa gav, friends leave to i^akeM^ An^*''.*"!" »"* ^i. Before the hon Sember ;»^°"'* Treasurer? 8word« with hi. ?S li^ hT." •" '"«"«'« •ure his language In ,h»" '"u° *" ""«•- addressedto ifae^HouseoJ J""'"' ^^'°^ ' I undertook to prove th*r.h *"""*"• °<'<'*«*on 000 of public money iMi^tr""."' ^^^^^'- the Government for drstrih?,,;''^ '^"P""''* «' derstood the Provinofal sT"' *'='' ^ »«»• thefaot, "ovtnoial Secretary to admit Hon. Peov. Seo -No. was ^het^rnrg^^f th^rsT'^^**' ♦•>«. my etatemtnts are . * f*'"?'*'"^" •« which After ten gentlet^en hft °""^ .'" '^e correct ? facti.plafn^ha.notone'on?''*'^''' ""^ '"e my calculation to the eA?r /^^ °.°"''^ 'o^ol^ cont. What aaid thV Af r ' °^ *„'^»"»r or a Provincial Secretary ?Th:v'^ ■^®'""*' "<* may be in advance whil«-^ '^^ " ^'"•'1» die of a quarler bat who tu"* '° **»« ""id- in at the^end of the o.!°,'''^°°«y°''°'e. right again.'- Bu f H t1 " "'" *>«»'! that there are no quarters n.^"" gentlemen the customs duties^ but .u« ''°""e<«ion with into the Bank eiery sLnrH™''"**' "'' P«d bow are they to S^ose of Jhi'.f '«"*• l''"»> the payments by tae Dol nf "! *'"'°' ">•' are #500,000 and uowardT i^ °5 Government receipt. ? if tbey cannn? h ° **^''"'=« »' '»»e ment*^ here. Utfhem do J'^l"'" "^ •«•'«" organs, which haveTeen.o^,/*''°"Sti their me all over the country l°t n"°S ''^^'^ «' the House as to the cafnni..* " 1°^ "'"''•d that sum is for n?ere« i„T L ^^'^•^'''O «' not be charged with thltfl ""^ '*"""d we addition to the intls? L "" ^ ^"*' *» 000 in arreaif "''"'««'' ^e »re nearly ^a?©,- .r"h1;^?nd*«?'« k41 f I'-- as expert at proverbs ashpV"^"' ^ •"» ""t not Scripture so weirafm*«*''°'"''« ^ *>•'« understood the app L* Uon o^f°fh ^ '"'^''' ''"* ^ bethi.-a fool should hoH r\'"'°'"'' '« not talk, and therefore h«?i.^ ?^'" """^ ni^t apply the epithet ?oh:l ""S^*'"- ^ ''o did not mean to apo J^r » ' """^ . """"^ ^» the House if that^^i^hP ° "'• ^"^ ^ "^ the le*d«r nf .h,. riA* • becoming answer tor attack ? "Why wai thrr!""*"'' '" "'"e to my the rumor thaTtV«T'."° "J^""*' ^ef ial of been acting on his adSl 7' ?^l'«""' ^"^ ^l»e face ofle cot t^ZUJ MnK OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 23 the ttfttement, and he did not gWe that de> Dial. I am therefore juitified io saying that the Attorney General did advise the militia of Piotou not to obey the orders of their supe- riors Were tliey refusing to obey the orders of the Dominion Government or the Ihw of Canada? No, but they were the laws of thfir own country, and the orders of the offioers appointed by their own Governor. But the Attorney General tells us that the Uoion Act wo are not bound to obey, that it w«8 not worth the paper it was written on, that Nova Scotia never has been and will not be Confederated. Then what is the meaning of the statement that delegates are to be sent home for repeal? Did anybody ever hear of repealing that which Is not law ? When we were running our elections we fonnd the pamphlet published by the present Attorney General in nearly every man's house,— it was a most dama|>ing production to us, and can we wonder at the declaration of that gentle- man in reference to the Union Act when over his own signature in that pamphlet he stated broadly and emphatically that previous to Confederation Canadian produce was subject to a duty. That statement was made in three places on one page, and I ask will the At- torney General now say that that assertion was true ? Will any one be found with hardi- hood enough for that? No wonder that the farmers were alarmed at the prospect of com- ing into a nsw competition with Canada. I ask the Attorney General to endorse that statement now, and I ask him if he c ;i get one of his newly fledged supporters, uj they have been called, to do it for him. The Speaker suggested that Mr. Blanch- ard's expression in reference to the new mem- bers was offensive. Mr. Blanghabd continued :— I only quoted the phra«e but I will avoid its use in tuture. 1 come now to refer to the observations of members of Government. The Pro. Secretary expressed his regret that he was not a !aw» yer,— I did xiot think there was any occasion for that, for he was dove-tailed in between two lawyers, and he made a better speech than either of them. The speech of the first consisted of proverbs and a joke, the speech of the second was sound and fury. The tjon. member for Annapolis made an attack on the Government that carried Confederation,— I had nothing to do with their defence. His attack on me was made in a style very nnu- Bual from a member of Government. When a man is in opposition ho cares little how he attacks,— his business is to attack with all his might without being very choice as to his method or his language, for he is on bis back and mmt fight for dear life,— but the Government are always in a different posi- tion and can afford to bo generous. More especially can this Government afford to be so when their supporters number 36 against 2 That hnn. member, I was going to c»ll him the Solicitor Gnneral, for if the office had not been abolished I presume he would have held it, said that I had made nn indecent at- tack upon the Government. We lawyers use that phrase for a particnlar. offence,— but I did not try to seduce the virtue of the Gov- ernment,— if I bad done so I should in all pro- bability have failed,— I had no desire to en- joy t\i\t charms or to mingle among them. True it is that one bon. member to-day ad* vised me to go over and assist them, but I am happier where I am than if I were sitting in the Government,— I have no great desire to be Attorney General, for I occupy a posi- tion quite as good as far as many matters are concerned. The hon member for Annapolis told me I should be more modest,— I had a good deal of modesty at one time but it is nearly gone. One would have supposed, however, that a gentleman, coming here as he does for tie first time, and having leaped into a high position, when fleshing his newly-sharpened weapon, would have been a littlejmore gentle in his treatment of a poor fellow like me. When he sat down I thought that gentlemen all around were done with me, and that they would have thought it quite enough to have three men on one. If they saw three men on the street attacking one, if they had any manly spirit at all they would hardly pitch into the unfortunate fellow fighting alone, and box his ears— especially if the three' were selected champions, but it was found necessary to back up these three gentlemen with seven others. When Mr. Dickie got np and begun to read from a paper in his hand in a style peculiarly his own, I thought that he said some pretty hard things in a very Bweet voice, and he took the trouble to tell me that no pawnbroker would riek a grot on my political reputation. It was very modest for sl sweet a man thus in his maiden speech to attack one who had never done him any harm. He told me farther that I and my ptrty stank in the nostrils !of Nova Scotia. What chara ter has he ever earned to entitle him to fpeak thus? I can tell him that until he learns to be.more modest, and control his tongue, he will never have a political character to sustain,— or rather that he will have a character that ho would give 10 000 grots to be rid of. He will be like the Irish- man who said that he had lost his character and would pity the man who would find it, He compared me in so many words to a drowned rat. If I were disposed to take him up, and apply to him the fl.gellation that it IB in my power to administer, I could skin him from neck to heels, and hold hira up as a warning to all evil doers in future not to come here using such 'anguage. He then went into o long calculation which nobody could understand. After that 8t}pcoh lurely be will be made the Finance Minister of the Provmoe-he can give day, date and figures for everything from beginning to end. Buf; I would not have him bury his talents here; let him go to Ott*wa and take Mr. Rose's place, or, if that will not gatiify hisambitinu, let hiiB go over to Eocland and become Fii. nance Minuter of that country. He foundid all his calculations on the assumption that Canada imported only to the value of ift37 - 000,000. When he made that statement he could not have known what be wag talkinc ;- y-^ ■"-■y^- m-.tiibLT aiso iuformea me in equivalent terms that I was a braggart and a coward. Sir, he mistakes his man if bethinks he has a coward before him, and when ho next feels inclined to use such lan- guage, he had better reflect that for its use in 34 Boxtter thp nn,mrX,\ Murray did not think oZ-afrFlemin'/ i^^^-^^ody he could Dody w rh whom be comes in contact ^ that while tKre"y UBfeSthJr''"'^?""' could not and diH «^» • ^ the Canadiana local taxes? Tho I.""' ^?^°^^ * fartbin? of ner. 1^3 r."* *^'"' """^ "''*> blockXrun- released from Confedera.ronfwe "have no m' ter prospect of the Treaty than before On' cet in '' Ha f l .^ ""^ *"'■« *•>** vou will Vhlt i\ A^^ ""^^'^ "8 why. and Ireolied affib^;ou^Xt«wa^r"di.Thl^;^^ thti, .«A *'° government had to depend on ov in r ""P'^^/'ers. it was lost, hut to their y r.nd jir.titudo the members of Cape B re. ind- '::i:tL7AT.i'y ^^x^s^tf w«y in which we are treatedTn'^VetuSn "I'do not need to talk of Smai.r.1 — It V' ^^ ty, but Iwui say that Pictou forgot what she DEBATES AND PE0CEBDlNo3 worked ^for an'd'^ aoJJor^.eS .^/'^ '"""P"'' iot^;;'e"nS^rm\^5;^~^^^ Sc[^"'"The''ir"V-"-^^^^^^^^^^ vacant in o-e co^g;JStion"'l"^''* "''°°'" hear it,, and I should k1 ^ *™ '°"y »<> make such a ,{.?« °el1 of T °"^- ''"*""*• "> or the gomnment or Jhi w^"" °^ **"« '•"• who have been mufoV^* ^"i""' *"" 'he men they do;"ot'rn°ow";tV?her.!a"i?r'o""'" It because the dcodIp mraZ ""'• ^ ^r ig support the eoK after^ho^'"""""' *« have provided hVlfan-f if f ''® Sovernment children ? I reneJt,h.A^'*K*° fi*""*'* «»•«!' to circulate siTasffi J "t°d be sorry tuenoy. Dr Murr.v a..^ *^-''."V "^ "onsti- but le't ine ask? where shlld' »h'"r'''«*''°°' tion have taken pi.ce? in »K.^ ""estiea- Should it be carried on bv^i"'", '"' ''°"«''r sibil.ty ? Should noUhe^a"c„unr?h° "re- examined by two nr.K.°'? *"" been from each llouee who -InM^ membos chosen session. labor"oua^v .7. •''' " " *^°'"' ""ery There i^ not a «inti^ Tf """* ,""'» voucher? which does not coSaini""' "^Z'^? J'^"''°«J« would b"? be .eVe,dS &•' '"5'' " "'1'°" to make such a !^h»;^' °J **""*« "o°«h». quired. Take th« fef^ " ""^^ "^ ^as re- ample; there ai««"^^*^ account, for ex- for earn ng8 an over?h '^"' '^^ department would we ston ?hf ^* country. How then July? The Kst Offi^r""'" °" *^^« fi""" "f impossible, from the iiRfnrlff/.u- ^' ^" the books' could be closed LT^i'' '^^^. opened immediately ' ^ * ''®" *«' abi'e't hfnnh'ari;e"?d'.rn°Xr " •* "'""^- of 8ight,-I have seen it I ^! ^?S'"« S^ out often, and I do not se'T.r' ""^ *'«»>' ^^''V culty'would resulfev n f i iZ^J^t' «''®- t^a\Tng"i^an1VtVstr.?»f"^^« water lots in front Whom did th!. T°5 l''^ lonff to? Tn fho "uom did the land be Sur?i;^It.^Was tuseS f^^S" *''"^/°"' '»? was stated? Tf fk« I ^'^'^ speculation as q'u^enrjoulVh'a^ve'anrtTartbrwh^r property was taken for r.ii °-.. ^*L*''« ''''o'? those only. Mot a BinoTni'"' '^"'^"^cs, ana • ^ re«t i«,." "^il.'r« ^" granted tTi^w^aV-^'^U^^'^'"''- '^'S that was m the case of Mr. Allan of Kg^M VMIMWVMlKWn. log together Md fp^rtytriumphf, the goTernment ntroKl. ItdoM member, or any t»>int us OD th*t »n alBo told us ire eight Mhools I am sorry to >"y. indeed, to I'erness. Whoso »ult of the Jaw. u«e, or the men le subject, until ' stand? Oris >o penurious to the government educate their uld be sorry ;ut my coneti- i that I seemed 1 of the public sinuate that I, ♦ed the public investigation, hat investiga- ale or corner? of no respon- ints have been Bmbeis chosen I is done every aoh voucher? the Journals : of the Com- i^ing all our "the report sn believed." uoh a Report ed SB that of y of Flalifax. confusion of was impos- iree months, say W8B re- unt, for ex- department How then the first of are in the lat even yet y- It was bings, that i a new set » remark- [ine go out fiight very ;re8t diffi. *t every about the le Govern- I nothing aftar the aluepaid, Miag the '■ land be sold it? lation as had en« ■he whole ijscs, and granted OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 25 ?ption,— Montreal who proposes to run a line of iteamors soon. When an individual offers the countrj such a boon &s that which Mr. Allan proposes to ^'iveus, the Government would be recreant to i!8 first duty if it did not place every I'aoility at his disposal. We made the lease forfeita- ble in cite the project is not carried out. This is the great cry that we have heard from Pic tou. We Lave done everything to advance the county's interests, and in rttarn we find this slander brought here and ret^tiled when five minutes* investigation would have shown how the matter stood. What had wc to ex- pect in the way of favor from Mr. Allan alter the elections were (>ver, for the lease was given afterwards? What influence did Mr. Fishwick exert in that constituency? What influence could Mr. J. S. McLean exert for us after the elections? Were we leasing the property of the people of Pictour Not h, foot of it belonged to them,— it belonged to the Government. What more, sir T The piece of land above the railway is never to be built upon, but must be kept clear. Let mo askthehon. member what the Acadia Coal Mining Company or its agent have done for us ?tiThat company got the largest grant, and was the agent a Confederate? He is a gentle* ■man for whom I have a high regard, but it cannot be said that Jesse Hoy t moved hand or foot to influence that county in our favor. The word "swindle " was used repeatedly in the hon. member's speech;— it was a swindle in one respect,— the people of Piotou had got a railway, and we expected some little grati- tude in return, and in that respect they did swindle us completely. It was said also that I had dragged in the name of the Lieutenant Qovernon. The Attor* ney General mentioned his name, I did not do so improperly but as I had a right to do But did not the hon. member drag in the . names of other governors ? Did he not swing his poison bag over General Williams and flatter Governor MaoDonnell? I will not •ay a word against the latter,- he has gone to Hong Kong and long may h& stay there. But I can sufler no man to malign General Williams, as the hon. member has been doing to«day, without giving his statements a con- tradiction. A more malicious slander was never perpetrated against any man than that which Mr. Jones perpetrated against General Williams, who is as high above these men as the sun is above the earth,— when they can bring their names into the most remote com* parison with his; when they can emblazon their names at the foot of the roll of fame, which his name heads, they may be proud indeed. Dr. Murray talked of the Irish Governor, whom ho named Sir Samuel Mao- Donnell, in a lofty strain— nobody could cor- rupt him. I do not know whether the hon. member is an Irishman or not. I hope in my heart that he is not a Nova Sootian, for I trust that no man bearing that name would ?,V"^^ °°""P^ion on such a man as General Williams. After saying that our late gover- nor's name would stink in the nostrils of hia countrymen, the hon. member for Pictou asked "would these traitors be allowed to go at large in any other country?" Let him bring down his bullies from Pictou, as was threatened at one time, and try to prevent 4 our going at large; they will find tke'-MWei over the end of the wharf before many min« utes. I 9111 walk the streets as independent* ly as any man, and I ohallenge him to »t« tempt to 'eveut me. The word unparliamentary, but I did not call him to order for I did not wish t» inter* rupt him. My friend, Mr. Fineo, addressed the House in a style that did him credit; he aaid he was not here to give ftctiona opposition to the government, but that, on tue oc'trary, he* would give them his aasistuoe to forward the public business. I never deemed it necessary to give the same assurance, I can point to my conduct during the four years when I was in opposition, as proof that whenever my best services are needed they can ba obtained. If I have uaed strong language in this debate, it is not because I have any ill-feeling against the members who sit on these benohes person* ally. Many of them are old comrades in arms, and if my character were in danger to- morrow I could rely on them to defend me. I know many of them to be true and honest men, and woulu be sorry to say tha^ because they are Anti-confederates they are disloyal. However long s time I may be in the House, I trust that 1 will not have the enmity of a human being when I leave it. If, however, » member is determined to flesh his maiden sword in me and, because he finds I am down, insists on sticking pins into me, he may be sure of getting a stab back. After Mr. Pineo had spoken, the hon. member fur Hants, (Mr. Young,) made a speech. He was with us be- fore; he went away and oamebaok. It was the accident of an accident that brought him here this time, for without a strong anti- union feeling we should not have seen his pleasant face again. "Loyalty!" eaid the hon. member, " was ever such nonsense talk- ed in any country?" He said in sul^tanoe that to»morrow we should cut oar connect^ ion with the Erapirb, if we were permitted ; he said that we had fought England's battles for fifty years, and he gave us a lecture from history that was told him, I suppose, from his grandfather, and that was about as true as his own loyalty. He did not believe in people abusing the American Govbrnment, but he heaped abuse upon the British Go- vernment, and spoke in favor of severing the connection. His loyalty is a beef and pork loyalty, a cornmeal loyalty. If the honble. member likes the United States so well, the sooner he and thos? who share his sentimentc go there the better. We can do with- out any man who holds such opinions. This gentleman asked me to tell him who recommended Mr. MoHefl'ey to the Governor. Does he not wish ho might find out ? Per- haps he would like me to forget the oath I took when I entered His Excellency's Council, and which prevents me from revealing any- thing transpiring in the Cabinet. But as the challenge has beec given, 1 will take steps to get myself released from that oath, and I Toill ^all tVin XXntit,^ li^«. *Ua-a OO ».»^1 .._ " — -c "-W "'J '-."TT Tsirfrrr u'-j gmiiriiicu were passed over in the selection. I believe the fact is pretty well known, but when the hon. member does hear he will find how mis- taken he was in his conception as to who gave the advice. He said that the Crowa 26 DEBATES AND PB0CEEDING3 had given aa no proteotion, but htd IcJ -^ into England s wan for the liit fifty yeart that we bad been too mealy-mouthed, a .^ •hould «peak out. He has spoken out, but not at all to hie oredit. If a man cannot be oontented in the country under whose flag he drew his first breath, let him leave the country and go elsewhere to seek the Eldo- rado of his dreams. True it is, as he said, that the country is onr own, but that would not justify us in selling it to an enemy. My friend Mr. Smith, who neit addressed the House, with the old English feeling and love of fair play animating him aaid, when he •aw one after another of my opponents piling OD me, "let us have fair play, and hear the ■lory out." But he was mistaken in attri- onting to me the admission that the accounts were left in such confusion that the govera- ment were compelled to appoint a Commiggion to examine tbem. I merely asked, as I ask •gain, what the government meant by telling us that the finances are so confused that they cannot understand them, and in the next breath saying that there is not money enough to carry on the affairs of the country ? He was also mistaken in laying that 1 had inti- mated that but for me the country would be annexed ;— what I said was that if there were no opposition to seme of the people of this country, they would be found like a river running down to the sea of annexation. I did not, however, say that I was the only loyal man in the House,— I could swear to the loyalty of the gentleman whose remarks I am now reviewing. I say that there is gross disloyalty in the country when the Eastern Chronicle publishes to the world the statement that we will be freed from the toils of the union, even if we have to break loose from British connection. I know that the overwhelming majority of the people are truly loyal, but among them there is a fac- tion trying to lead them to where they little think of going to. It was an old saying that It was very easy to raise the devil, but very card to put him down. Mr. M0BEI8ON— Hear, hear. Mr. Bi^NCHARD continued— I know that my hon. friend who says " hear, hear," will not agree to such sentiments— he is too true to the British flag. The substance of what Mr. Smith said about Confederation was, that a great many people who cannot read are strong An tie. I do not doubt it; I think it will be hard for him to find one that ia not,— but he will find few men of educa* tion, intelligence and high position who are not Confederates. A VOICE— That is not true. Mr. Blanchabb continued— Let that hon. member come up here on the floor, and say that my statement is untrue; if he cannot, he had better not interrupt me thus, for I will unmask bi) to the public gaze. But ,»fter the exhibitio : we had when Mr. Smith sat down, let no one call mn Bombastcs Furioso. I said to the hon. member for Victoria that for the honor of Cape Breton he should let me alone, but, disregtrding my piteous ap- P??!-i, «e vSmS OD. Vr'e icar somctiiBcs of the rafters ringing; but I was looking over while he spoke at the ornament on the Pro» .Tinoial Building opposite, expecting every moment te see it fall by the concussion of the air. His language was equally sf ong, after gesticulations that would have disgraced an Indian in the backwoods. The hon. mem- ber for Cumberland, by the way, has con- demned my gesticulation. I do not pretend to be a very highly finished elocutionist, but I rather think I can bear comparison with him. It does not lie in his mouth to talk to me about stamping and raving, and to use language 80 low and vulgar that no man should be allowed to use it without feeling that he endangered the length of his nose. The same gentleman told me that we had acted dishonorably with Cumberland. Let him not talk to me about that. Where did bribery begin and grow in this country but m Cumberland? I remember being at an election there when a Frenchwoman came up and said, " How much will you give for my husband's vote?" I winked to a friend of mine who was oloie by, and asked how much she wanted, adding that I supposed she would take lif 2: She said, "No, lean get more than that." She went some distance to find the agent of the other party, and from him she got ^'14. Votes in the morn- ing had been as low as $1.50, but they had gradually risen. The woman was seen to go off and unearth a Frenchman from among the bushes. I went in to the hustings behind him, and had the bribery oath put to him. He took it readily; he had not seen the money; the wife had managed it all, and merely told him whom to vote for. In an> other instance a candidate was seen to walk up to a voter, and while whispering in his ear he put something into the man's pocket; the latter wtnt to the hustings and voted and as ho walked round the corner he was seen looking to aeoertain how much he had got. I think, after what we have known of Cumberland, we might Lave been spared the remarks which were made. I cannot close without referring to the re- marks of the member for ColcLjgter, Mr. Chambers. When he told us be knew what ten cents of duty on grain meant, I was re. minded of a Scotchman, who was asked how much per cent, he put on profit; the reply was, " I know nothing about cents, or per cents, but I just doubles it" I dare say the hon. gentleman understands that mode of doing business very well. He told us about the young sportsmen firing at the dead baar; out what was he doing to me? Just what they did; nine of his friends had fired all their ammunition at me, and he too must have a shot. He hit me very gently, how- ever, for which I thank him. Notwithstand- ing that all the family, down to the baby, have had their shot, strange to say the ani- mal *tlll lives. The vitality of these animal*. IS wonderful. What more did he say 7 That ninentenths of the people are loyal jnly nine- tenths, and then that is only if they can get repeal. That reminds me of the advice of the Scotchmen who, when he was dying, said to his son, •• get money; get it honestly, if you can; but, at all events, get money" These persons will g«t reijeal loyally, if they can, but they are determined to have it all events. He inUmatsd that all the population, from the old men to the boys, would turn out and OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 27 concQiaion of tLe »lly 8f ong, after have diagraoed ■ The hon. mem- e way, haa oon- I do not pretend elocntioniat, but jompsrison with Qonth to talk to ing, and to uae ir that no man without feeling th of his note, ne that we had umberland. Let hat. Where did thia country but ler being at an iwoman oame up irou give for my to a friend of kiked how much [ auppoaed ahe ' No, I cin get t aome distance her party, and !■ in the morn- , but they had 1 wail aeen to go ^n from among huDtinga behind th put to him. i not seen the Sed it all, and te for. In an> IB aeen to walk ispering in hia J man'a pocket; ga and voted, corner he waa ' much he had lave known of »een spared the ring to there- ColoLjater, Mr. I be knew what leant, I was re< was asked how rofit; the reply i centa, or per I dare say the that mode of e told us about the dead baar; )7 Juct what had fired all id he too must y gently, how- Notwithstand* to the baby, to say the ani* these animals he Bay 7 That ral. jnlynine- f they can get e advice of the iying, said to oneatly, if you )ney " Tbeso , if they can, B it all events. )ulation, from turn out and fight, if need be. I can imagine him going out, with a flint.lo3k musket, at the head of his brigade, and marching down to Halifax; first of all they would take the Citadel, walk- ing in and taking possesaion after a fight of a couple of hours. What would a regiment of Colchester boys care for Armstrong and rifled guns? Let the hon. member lead such a troop down here, with acyihes for bayonets, and British rule and British institutions in this country would crumble into dust. If I had the eloquence of the Attorney General, I could describe that ragged regiment in a way that would be entertaining enough. They would not have to go far for a Faletafif either. If the Colcheater boya can get repeal peace, ably they will have it, but if not, they will take it at the point of the scythe and pitch- fork; ao I understand the hon. member. I am not exaggerating at all when I aay that the appearance which I have descrioed ia, all that an armed force could accomplish, if it oame to that point. In referring to the remarka of the hon. member for Annapolis I forgot to comment upon hia assertion that a boy from the back- woods of his county could controvert my speech. Well, Annapolis has sent its boy here, and haa he aucoeeded in controverting me ? He had better go back and get the other boy who, he said, could do it, I do not mean to say that I am a match for all the boys in Annapolis, but the pet boy of the county has not done much. One other sub- ject that that gentleman referred to was the statement that our fioanoial condition was never in a better state. That assertion I made in this view : That our financial state is bet- ter now than it would have been if we had not gone into Confederation. It is was said like- wise when our government went into office the debt was six and a half liaillions, and thatwe increased it to eight millions;— that was an entire mistake; the late Government did not increase the debt by o ne cent,— the increase had been made by the previous Ad- ministration. But what was it that cauaed the debt to be increased ? The extension of our railways,- and I say to the House that if we were not Confederated we would have had to take $140,000 from our roads and bridges and educational gr.int to meet the in- terest on the increase. That ele: nent is over* looked entirely by those who talk of the in« creased taxation which is placed upon us. I will now explain what I underti land our in- debtedness to be : In Sept., 1866, our debt was $6,452,692 Pictou Railway, 1,250,000 Annapolis Railway, (Debentureri), 123.000 Do. do. (Caih), 50,000 87.875,692 This is all the permanent debt tha 1 1 can lay my hands on. but the amount is p robably now over eight millions. We are only beginning the Windsor and Annapolis road, and it would have been the duty of thf i Hoiise at this session to have made some p)rp\ 'isloti for fur ±t. i.1^.. :_ M^rl.VSnM ^f\ 4%\t% tUA««Aa«A/l in Ai T.tji'^st. I ask then whether culate on revenue and exper basis of 1866. Not only had in debt for our two railroads. 'ou can caU itiire on the we got def-ply Ijttt oar trade began to fall ofT considerably. The proof of this statement is that in the payment of om interest, our road and bridge moneya. and our current expensea, the Dominion got more than $500,000 behind the receipta. If this is true, and it cannot be doubted, I aak what would our financial condition have been bad w,9 remained unoonfuderatedT I ask the Government when they come up with their Repeal resolutions to meet that question. If I am wrong I will acknowledge it, but I be- lieve they would have had to provide for $ 150,000 per year of additional liability. I thought I was stating something new ia shewing that the government ' jd 0329,000 in the treasury to dispose of, and I was sur- prised to hear the hon. member for Yarmouth state that there waa nothing new in what 1 had been saying. Another gentleman said that the debate would cost $300 or $400. I can tell him that I have known debates ia this House to occupy fourteen or fifteen daya; there were giants in those days, and with the men who sat hero when the Speaker was laat among us wo cannot bear comparison. No one accused Howe, Johnston, Dniaoke, Wil- liam Young, George R Young and Hunting- don, and such men, of wasting the publio time and money when they took a fortnight and more to debate a question, and yet that taunt is made of me because one day haa l>eeii occupied with th:3 discussion. I hare some* times aeen an attempt made to shut down on a debate, but I never saw it succeed. When- ever I wish to make a speech I will fiad a way of bringing myself within the rules of the House. If in this disoussios I have sa'.d anything unkind, it must be remembered that I was provoked by taunts such as I never heard before in this House. Mr, DicKiB said :— The hon. member for Inverness has put words into my mouth that I never uttered. If my language can be con* eidered offensive I will a,',k pardon, but the report will shew that such is not the case. Mr. Blanohaed:— If the hon member lays he did not intend any offence, I am perfectly satiftfied with his explanation. Mr. Dickie:— I will plaoo my speech in the hon. member's hands, and if he can find no such offensive expressions as he attributed to me, I will expect something more than the statement that he is satisfied,- 1 will expeot an explanation from him. The debate was adjourned. The House adjourned till Monday at 3 o'clock. Monday, Feb. 3, 1868. The House met at 3 o'clock. DEBATE ON TOF. ADDBEBS. The adjourned debate was resumed. Hon. Attoenet Genebal said— I believe that according to the ordinary practice we should consider !: debate closed by the speech of the mt '..er for Inverness, but I rise to make a fe>« remarks, which shall be brief, because X l^bor under t\t^ disadvantage of a severe cold. It is not nay intention to resume the debate, nor woulrt I touch it were I not called upon, in oonseqt lenoe of some re- marks mad^ of ftD entirely personal natartf 28 S°.¥^* *nd beyond the inbicct of deb«t« •^i nri!J?'?'""f '"'"'"" thete word 1 Atprewr' onr farmers sre protected bv duties on UnadUn produce. - Tha?a„er «„,;,-!? * '*." ^ *'" to'i attention for the frn? *V/ '"'"K '•'«*'»«'• »he Btatement is true or false and I will take the 1 K or how h«*. ^ ''°°- "/'""'«'* ♦« »>« rnore oarefal fiow he attempts to fatten the charee of in.in be'hu^lTh" ^^ "«'ehbors. le^tfha? charge be hurled back on himnelf I hold in m v ih^ch i"" «»*♦•>♦« ,0' 1866 imt>o,Sng duti«^ }hL°» .^P"l Jn each year. That act says *^»* : »^ere shall be collected on all loodf eeve°rlf dl"tLV't ^'"'j°.°« "^ «a or lln^d ^h^ several duties set forth in the annexed table ainhp^rfri""^"?"-". ^" ♦»^»« t*ble I find tha? duVe'' e^'L"rti^*V"'^°'^« ?f agricultural p?" fltatnt« ?f f. ♦ ^^ ^""'* "e *«ed. This fzin%» n' *"®' <=o''t»'"8 * clause author uK^?-°'*"'°'' "^ Council, under cer- artX°« "'^•°"' i" **'^° Off ^''e duty on thcL articles coming from the EeiEhborine Cnln °««; "« that, notwitbetandinrthese iTfc^-e; C^ ''^ '^^'o"* *'' dutiable, yet if the Gov inT »"d Council think proper! on enterii,; Si othef rl'^?' 11''' »»•« GoVernment?o'f H.,«« «f fi,^°'°^'*f' *^^y ""y »dmit the pro. duoe of those Colonies duty free bv nraJ}T ?oT"f ?h^l" ''r]'''' --nerTanVt'bel:: lore, if these articles are admitted fren nf I." ioVof IheM^r'r '*'°° '''' '^*'^tarvlo°5 fore i;J.»^ .k"; ^°.""y pamphlet, there. n«.,.o fi 'j- ' I appended a note to that, be- cause, finding Canadian butter selling for sevenpence per pound in Piotou I oalferf a* the office of the Collector of Customs o,E «"t*'° by what authority the arTiole was tl^^ese ftrfe« ^°"' '^ proclamation, in which these articles are marked free. I took th& tee "iZT '^ ^""'^ ^^o" '^' date of £o sJouenHt T *"""f r P'oclnmation, and con- tha^^SLL^ asserted then, and I repeat now. ion^!^"**^'""'"''" °f t'^ese articlefl duty free DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS I asserted «; Sccr ■ aow, ihit the go- L"J2!f'"/'?''t«d I'hVlaw oontinuaUy' Wh'at i^r««e/c?m1r>" .rraSe"^""- Of onr coast shb ^ lorfciiPfi ? *\,;i u Th- n n°'. ''"*' "»^''ed with the Statu el The Collector of Customs told me hat he fh17K"'J.^''J"^ '^°"t »•>« matter further than lu,l^' ^"^ '"'^T'^ t"' '"iff without a pro° clamation from the late Financial Secretmrv and the fact is that tor many yea« no nro^ r""*'r'J- .'!"' "'"ed. and the Ex^cu'^^ive Council did in ,i,,iation of thoact.aWow cl uadian produce to come in duty free A Dro^ il\T-'"\ """^'^ *>*'« "^'^^ the ? asoT, why the privilege was granted, the conditiooron which It was allowed.. nd the commeSnri" had they, excepting on some such terms to expose our farmers to the competition of 'the mv .hf i? ?'^° P'lnciple of political econo- my, the greater part of our taxes fall on la- bour, and the farmers being the princiial to take Iwal th'*'" "°J".«' *°d iniquitous werS'^eliti^red'!' '1^ 'm'^^^''^ Thrt'^LVtfe'/ Sra^d- "^'''T'r' "*'' b'e'upon'th^e mon extraordinary declaration of the hon. m4. ^L* '° Vi^*' tuok place on the chango of mniBtry. He was then holding the office oi Attorney General, and leader of the govern- Se?e and Itnf ''"'"' •'*'•' people, in^a com- plete and almost unanimous manner, con- demned his party, and the government ?hen dejure ceased to nave the confidence of the country, and to be His Excellency's lawful advisers. But there is one act which an out going administration is alwaj-s esDec^ed t<^ perform with prudence and Sret?on to re c.mmend the Governor to send for that cer- t'ion or rr.°"°*'"l' °" °^*tter what Lis p^os'- tion 01- rank may be, who is likely to for ma strong administration. The hon. gentler^an asserted broadly that the wrong man had been sent for. I ask him who fdS the Governor to make tha; selection ? *''* kn^^sI^crnotTe]^:-^'^^ ^^'^^^^^^ ««««^»' Hon. Attt. Genebal continued -—That i* a subterfuge and an ev^sion^-th^re is no k awrr ih» ^"'1^' "°d if Jio does not open- f wHl hpTt n''' ^".^"tT" f^*' »dvice or not. KLrves i?hfr ^""^'^ '0 treat him as Heffev »nH'.i, ^ ^"^ recommended Mr. Mc- th J,^' .?^ '^^^ ^^"^^^ J»«re and sajs that that gentleman should not have been sent for 'k«L°°'°^*\'' '"''''«'■ ^^'"oro importance in the f!;f nT."" *°°H '^' "^"'■ty °f ^Bserting in the face of ihe peoples' representatives and of the people of Nova S.otia' themselves that l.the Attorney General of I'ue Queen in Nova foZi^ui.TJ''^'^: "^^"""^ oT the Province hTrSaX'al^^^ ^"^ the "o^ur'a'le' 7/^0 J^ OF THE HOUSB OF A6SEUBLT. 2& hon. member Btid yesterday that he bed made that charge, and that it waa my daty to deny It if it wer? untrae. I am at iuae with bim there. It is not |my duty to deny every foal and filthy alander that may be brought i'orward, bat before a man oomea before tat Jiiouno and the people to malca euoh u oba'ge 'against a publio oflBoer, be ii bcund at tho risk of hi« character to malte it good. He made the .arge without linowing it to bo true, and has perpetrated in the faoo of the public a bold and deliberate eltnder. I rogrct that I am under Mhe n«oeuity of making a stati^nient eo damagin|; to the character of any man, more especially to a member of this House. Having made the ac- cusation against . ^e without authority, and at variancfi with ii.e truth, ho has earned the contempt of every honorable man in Nova Bootla; ho has placed himself beyond tho pale of gentlemanly society by uttering a daring fnlsehooi. Mr. Blancuaed called to order, asked that the words be taken down, and desired thst. the galleries be cleared. Hon. AiTT. Genebal ssid that if his language was out of order he would apologise to the Chair. Mr. Blanchard said that somsthing more was required. Tho galleries were cleared. On the read- mission of tho public, Hon. Attt. Geneual resumed. Ha said: — I was about observing that when a man takes the liberty of bringing » serious charge against the character of another, undertaking in tho face of the publio to make a declara- tion of a state of facts, and at the time he makes {that declaration does not know those facto to be true he exposes himself to the suspicion of invention. Although for some persons to be tuspected of inventive powers, is most injurious to their reputation, and deprives them of social position, others aeain have compensations and consolations. There may, for instance, be men whose asso- ciates are of such a character that inventions are not looked on by them with any great de- gree of odium — with whom the more inventive genius is the greater character. That is the case with a certain class of politicians who have lately been busy disposing of this Prov- ince. With such men the persons whom I have described will not lose caste. It took six of them to carry the monster fabrication to England that wo desired to bo united with Canada,— they look on truth as a kind of human infirmity, aud pity the many who can bo guilty of it. There are also men who will not be injured by being detected at invention of facts, because their reputation will be as good afterwards as before, — another consola* tion would ba if they did accidentally lose their character it would be a positive gain to them, but a terrible calamity to the man who would find it. I had the honor of being appointed the Queen's Attorney General in Nova Saotia by the almost unanimous voice of the represen- tatives of the people. The gentleman who held the OluCO bcTofC liiO, held it Ou a diue? ent tenure,— he never held it under the aua thority of the people of Nova Scotia, but under the ftuthority of General Williams, who, at the time when he made the appoint- > meat, must ba\g known that there were per* sons on the roll of Barristers who had higt- er cliiims than the man whom he seleoteu. Thereforo it is, I presume, that the hon. msm- ber h»s spoken in such Klowin:; terms of the oh.u'tioter of General Williams. I will say nothing in the absence of that officer that I would not say in his pro«ence, but I will say that I hope that in the capacity of Governor, he will never be present,— and further that if' General Williams earned his Uurels by his' military administration>a* Kars, he suffered > them to bo sadly faded in his civil adminiai'^ tration in Nova Saotia. When I heard the hon. member for Inverness uttering a fnneral oration over the departed General Williams, I could not help thinking that be was an Antony worthy of such a Caesar. Mr. BLANOH<»nD replied as follows:— It is perhaps unfortunate fur me, sir, that I stand in this House in a position of an extraordi- nary character. It is unfortunate for this House, as well as for this country, that we have not here a strong and powerful opposi- tion. I care not what party governs the province; it is indispeniable under any cir- cumstances that there should be a vigoroo* opposition. When I said the other day that it would be an injury to this country if I withdrew from this House, under existiag circumstances, I oply stated what is aotually a truism. This House and ci'intry.know that any Government, even if led uy the iminaca'< late Caaiar we have heard to«day, will go astray in the management of publio afi'airsif they have no per;:-^, weak though he may be, to control tLcii;. Standing as I do in this House, I have thought it due to this country to expose the fallacies aad inoonsistenoies of the present Government, and how have I been met 7 The Attorney Geucral, who talks about th: roll of barristers, had not the manliness to meet me on the spur of the moment in fair debate, but had to take two days for prepar- ation for his reply. Standing alone as I do now, I only wish ttiat some of those old vete- rans, under whom I have served, were here to meet that hon. gentleman, and place him in that position which he has more than onoe Oijoupied — one of humiliation. ■■ I shall take the observations which he has just made seriatim. I stated that he had an- ' nounced to the public, in his pamphlet, tlist ' the agricultural products of Canada before Confederation were subject to duty, but would now come into our markets duty free, and challenged him to prove it— hunow comes in and replies, by the most miserable special pleading and equivocation, that the whole thing was illegal. When he was theSolimtor' General of this country, and was a member of the Government, the same law exicted then as now. Nc proclamation then was issued more than once. One such proclamation was issued, aid continued from year to- year. He was the adviser of tho representative of Her Majesty, and yet no proclamation was issued. Now he comes in and states that tbn whole proceeding was illegal, because no pro- -1 i.: 1 1 t .- :-. 1 T -* , ., uisusxii'.;!! usu utrcu 2=sucu. u~<. HIS rcau what he said in this pamphlet of his :— " The Canadians can bring agricultural products into the market much cheaper than >e oan, 30 will be driwDout of h-iV "*^ °'"" '""•" C.n.dUn Produoi. 'a, 7re«"JSr"ir' '^ are protected by dutiM «« p ^^ f^tana duoe." ^ *' ^° C»nftdi,n pro- n.y Oen?r.^ SK lYuTif ?t '?«" tt"' "Thoir ^K^ ? ^' ""** "O'" does he MV • m2nt over hie own nien^u,,^ ^ • ** "'**** here to ju.tirj u h! rVf«e' tC'* ^..^ "'°«^ tection they haTe-'"^**''' "Way what pro- influenoiDg the eSo/./'' *"" P"^"" °^ o.« thnrti°o'n a'\n^K'"f -» e«t that there were d Si oolleot.h'^«'"P'''''!7 country on C.nadian%dS,v^^'°'j'>f to meet in my own county ?.. Look* *?hl price of butter " ■■.iri «... « '^ '* *he DEBATES AND PIlOCEEDlNOS 01.. --'■;"—» u« TO oeen rauoh creater T ^7 r *""• '"^niet him hurl his enith«t« I ( friend, credit for their ?„.'"?''. ""^ ^'^ wmmm There w., «o '.dVim wTierf'S'.T'cS,;] »po. 10 gl™ more ..,rta *.„ ! ™,ffi Htcret. tj utte? a .l„^..*° keep ererything currci in t5aT.''di°n1r:t^^J °'i,"^J ««= Sllfnoy'took '^Lerh-^^^'f *^'^°« ^12 a^:h^^'te"?-S«erhaVahe"i l^^rtun^^^Si^Krre'l^ this ifouM anS l^ ^*" ^'''° previously in usaeee ?n; ?"f „T^" *'° acquainted with its tion rumoi! 1' ""o' »""mmon practice to men- or d Ji"agroVpub^"rn"\SL'^« "^••"k^" oughtto bepN,inc?K The hon. member persoil nTult^'T'^ar:";' •''?«''^" '» ' rthirlS' "^^ '^"^ »^vi-Se , o"'.e or'p^c* ^ceiscomp.„;i;:;^,ad;'S;Se;:X''l; uarristers roll contains the names af m«n« mtu more competent than mS to fllT .h« Ihr.; ""' position— nor did I ..v th^t .b. S.e.?„t .\7do°„" .JrF.SmS' '."S wb.,,h".1.l''J'd-f„lSa.S^.i.f,i;. OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 31 proper time. Hie Fiiole p»mphlet it a ttate- ment that the Unioo Act wta not bindins: upon the people of this country. Will he get ap here and tay that the people were jaitified and oan, without oommittln^ high treason, nppoM a law of the Imperial Parliament 7 If he will say so I need not utter another word. He Icnows right well that such a stetement could not be made by a man holding the po- sition of Attorney General. I oould under- stand the mekber for Hants saying so, but it would be inezoueable on the part of the At- torney General. I would ask the people of NoTa Scotia, ft cm one end to the other, to understand that their Attorney General has dtiolared over his own band that they are not boiind by an Act paesed by the British Par- liament and sanctioned by Her Most Gracious Majesty. The bon. gentleman talke to me about in« consistency, but what do we find in the Gov- ernor's speech? I ask gentlemen around these benches to say how they stand in re- ference to the Attorney General when they know that he has made the statement in his pamphlet that the Reciprocity Treaty is a curse to the country. Does he ^ay bo in the Governor's speech 7 Hon. Attt. Gsnehal— What part of the speech are you referring to 7 There is nothing about it. Mr. SPKAKEE-It would be well for gentle- men to confine themselves to the clause ac- tually under consideration. Mr. Blancuakd— When other gentlemen have introduced various topics I should cer- tainly be permitted to discuss thf m It the statement be in tlic speech or not, are gentle- men prepared to say that the Reciprocity Treaty is a curee and that its repeal is a bless- ine? What do we read in this pamphUt7 "The Reciprocity Treaty has happily termin- ated, sud if we escape Confederation we may refuse again to ratify such a treaty. Prosperity may then be said to attend our fishermen, in which the farmers will partici- pate," Although nincteen-twentiethsof the people of this country have been most earn- estly wishing that Reciprocity would be again accomplished, down comes the Attorney General, who has so much knowledge and wisdom, and tells us that we are in an entire delusion about this question. Ho is vei-y .severe about my associates. From my 0; itdhood I have been assooiatea with the Liberal phrty. But what about himself? When associa ed with honorable men, like the present Equity Judge, he had to be dismissed from his position, I have as- sociated with men as far his superiors as it is possible for men to be, I came here in 1859. I associated with Joseph Howe and William Young, tifld remained with them and their colleagues and won their confidence till they left this House. He, the hot-headed Tory, Tas so leaky that be could not be allowed to lemain with his associates, and they wedged bim out of office. I see gentlemen around these benches who would place as much con- fidence in me as in bim. There are people in ibis country ■who bave conndeuov in lue, and no very high opinion of this hon. gentleman. I am told that I uttered a funeral oration over General Williams. I have heard s bet- ter man make an Qvatioa over the aasne itut I may venture to say that the hon. leader of the opposition had not the met.ns of knowing whether that was true or not. lie had not the means of knowing whe- ther the importations into the province were more extensive than they ever were, or whe- ther there bad been more duties paid than be- fore; but suppose such were the case, who gets the benefit? Is it the peopls; of Nova Scotia ? I tell him, no; as far as we are oon>* cerned, it tnstters little whether it is one mil- lion or five millions of duties that are collect- «d, for we are limited to 80 cents a head. He taid that the Government had never more money to distribute for the people than they have now. I join itsue with him there. He claims that we have had ^250,000 to distri- bute for our benffit. Li-ppose it were so, that will not eiiflioe for tho ordinary wants of Nova gootia for the current year. No, sir, it will fall short ijjaso.OOO of what we have been in the habit of getting before. When that is exhausted, how are we going to get anything more; we c%nnoi obtain it without resort to direct taxation. He pledged himself to prove that tho Province of Nova Bcotia has reoeiv* ed from the Dominion Government $600,000 more than had come into the Dominion Treasury, since the first of July— that wehad received that for the benefit of Nova Scotia. Here is another bold statement that I deny in loto. The Dominion of Ca ada was to assume the dtbts of Nova Scotia, if they wore 8 or 9 millions, according to the bargain made. If they have paid ^600,000 to meet the liabili- ties of the provinces, they did not do it on ih© behalf of Nova Scotia, but on their own behalf. If they have paid SGOO.OOO over and above the $8,000^000 they agreed to assume at the debt of the province, we have to pay them 5 per cent, on the amount in excess. I undertake to assert that during the first five tnonths we were in the Dominion, the people of Nova Scotia have paid into the Gen- eral Treasury $102,000 more than they have received; and let the hon. gentleman when ho goes to bring details prove the ooijtrary if ho can. I have had the figures under my eyes, and I know what I state to be tho fnot. Did we get anything from Canada for bunding over to her our revenues ?■ Not a solitary cent. I stand here to make th»t assertion boldly. Our five "great statesmen" handed over the whole revenues of Nova Sjotia— both customs and excise— to the Canadian Parliament, and agreed to a scheme which taxes ns for Canada's benefit, $200,000 be- sides; and then they taxed us farth'ir to pay the 80 cents a head we receive back. Yet we are told that these men were great statesmen. Did the Cana- dians come into the Confederation in a way like that ? The Canadians received a million and a half more than they ever received, and had their taxation decreased besides. Yet gentlemen would have ua be satisfied with an arrangement of such a character. I venture to say that if we were to submit the Confede- ration Act to any seven enlightened nations, their decision would be that it is unconstitu- tional as far as the people of Nova Scotia are concerned. We are held under that act un- constitutionally. I contend that England conceded to Nova Scotia the right to make a law. That right has never been withdrawn; and until the Union Act was passed through the Parliament of this Province, it was never constitutionally confirmed. I contend that this Parliament has just as good a right to pass an act confederating England with Australia as the Parliament of Great Britain to unite us with Canada against our remonstrances, and in the face of the fact that the act had not passed through this House. The hon. member said that he was ashamed —that is his own expression— that His ExceU lency had thought proper to request that if there were any political changes necessary they should be made constitutionally. It is no wonder that the hon. member was ashamed to see that statement in the Speech. It was, in a few expressive words, a censure upon the action of the late Government. It was as if the Governor said- Your predeces- sors acted unconstitutionally, but I wish you to act constitutionally. I don't wonder, then, that the hon. member winces under it; he should cover himself with a shroud, and repent in sackcloth and ashes, for having taken away the constitutional rights of the people of this country. I was somewhat amused to sec how ho worked himself up into a mighty figure, and told ua that he would take all the mem- bers of the Government, and Mr. Morrison besides. What a Goliath have we here ! I thought that this unoiroumoised champion of Canada was going to swallow us all up, b it appears we have survived. Wo have seen the young men from the country coming hero and trying him with a simple sling and stone, and behold him lying a headless trunk. The hon. member tells ui that the educa- tional system of t' Is country is perfectly sa* tisfact that it his fn Mr. tem w Mr. thing revisec l sjftem ■r not he federa It was tirely there » but t people have 8 oyerth we hac people the po people wa, an I reall look ai porteri When of a d I t OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 33 luring tbefirat Dominion, the d into the Qen- than they have leDian wjitn ho coijtrary if ho tider my eyes, the fflot. Did i for hsinding Not ft solitary tbkt aEecrtioD smen" banded Nova Sjotifc— the CanadiBn scheme whioh , $200,000 be- farth'ir \o pay receive back, these men id the Cana- tion in a vray eiyed a million r received, and bedides. Yet .tisfied with an ter. I venture t the Confede- ened nations, is unconatitu- bva Scotia are : that act un- that England ;ht to make a n withdrawn; iBficd through 3, it was never Dtcnd that this i right to pasB rith Australia tain to unite imonstrances, at the act had iwas ashamed lat His ExceU equest that if ;e8 necessary ionally. It is member was m the Speech, rds, a censure rernmeut. It our predeoee- ut I wish you on't wonder, >oes under it; shroud, and I, for having rights of the > see how ho ighty figure, all the mem- oir. Morrison we here ! I id champion w UB all up, i. We have intry coming simple sling g a headless t the cduoa- perfeotly sa« i tisfaotory. His leader at Ottawa has said that it was that system which swept away his friends at the recent election. Mr. Blanchabd— I never said that the sye- tem was perfectly satiifactory. Mr. MoEKisoN. — I believe if tbere is one thing besides Confederation that wants to be revised and improved it is the educ«ttonal system; but, throughout my canvas, I did not hear much of tbat syttem, but the Con* federation Act was tbe alNabsorbirg topic. It was upon that Act that the elections en» tirely turned. Tbe hon. member said that there were but few malcontents in Nova Scotia, but the great msjority of the intelligent people were in favor of the measure. We have seen similar statements sent broadcast overthe face cf this country, and I did hope we had heard the latt of th'se when the people had once expressed their opinions at the polls; it was cettiinly time, when the people returned 18 out of 19 members to Ottj* wa, and 30 out of 38 members tj this House. I really think that tbe hon. member should look around these benches and count his sup- porters before he made such rash assertions. When I consider his position I am reminded of a day when I went on board a vessel com- manded by one of my friends. Seeing nobody on his deck I a^ked, " Where is "-^ur crew ?" "When I call up ail hands," was the reply, " up comes Tom Green." So when the hon. member calls np his Opposition, up comes the hon. member for Cumberland. There once lived a very wise man known as Salomon, and we have heard a good many of his wise dayings. He has told us that though you bray a fool in a iiiortir, his folly will not de- part from him. I think it is worse with our nondesoripti) in Nova Scotia. It would appear that Solomon but once tried *.he experiment, but we have been braying our nondeecrijits for the lafct three years in a moitar, and ytt their simplicity will not depart from them. The hon. member took exception to the words •• disadvantige under which we labor," in the Speech. When we are tjld that there is not enough money to meet the wants of the country, I think that is a disadvantage, cer- tainly. He also tells us very distinctly that he cannot find in Hansard anything t.) justi- fy the proceedings of the Auti Confederate party in the formation of their Go- vernment and other acts. I tell him this, that I defy him to find anything in British authorities to equal the position that this Confederation Act has placed our people in. I defy him to find a parellel for such an Act anywhere in the British Do- minions. Does he expect in the situation in which we are placed that we are not going to remonstrate because there may be no parlia- mentary rule or precedent to guide us 7* In the circumstances under which we are placed do we g, the following committee was appoint'-d to select the Standing Com- mittees of the House : — Provincial Secretary, Mk Blanchard. Dr. Brown, Hon. Mr. Ro- bertson, W. H. TowDScnd, Dr. Murray and J. MaoDonald. On motion of Hon. Paov. Sec, Mr. Morri- «on was appointed Cba:riuan of Committee I f Supply, and Dr. Murray Chairman of Joramittgeon Bills Hon. Mr. Wilkins then moved the follow- ing resolutions on the subject of Confedera- tion :— "That the members of the Legislative Assembly cf this Province, elected in 1802 simply to legislate un- der the Colonial Constitution, had no authority to OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 35 Tuesday at 3 ?eb. 4, 1868. tne House of make cr consent to any material change of «nch Oon- atltntion, without first submitting the same to the people at the polls. 'Ttiat the resolution of the lOlh April, which pre- ceded the enactment of the British North America* Act, is as folic WS: '• 'IVkereat in the opinion of this House it is desi- rable that a CoBfuderation of the British North Ameri- can Provin'-es should tnlie place: " 'Resolved thtrefore. That His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor be authorized to appoint Dele- gates to arrange with the Imperial Oov> rument a Bcheme of Uriion which will effectually ensure jast provision for the rights and Interests of this Province, each Province to h^ive an equal voice ".n sui-h delega- tion, Upp^r and Lower Cauada being for tl;i9 purpose considered as separat-; Province--.' 'This was the only authority p- iseased by th« Dele- Kates who procured ihe enactment of the 'Act for the UDi)a of Canada. Nova Scotia and New Brunswick.' "That even if ihe House of >>8embly had the con- stitutional power to authorize such delegation, which is by no means admitted, tho foregoing resolution did not empower thj Delegates to arrange a Federal Union of Canada, Nova gcotii' and New Brunswick, with ut including in such Confederati -n the Colonics of New- foundland and Prince Kdwatd Island. 'That no delegates from the two last named Colo- nies having attended, and an unequal r. umber frxm tach i f the ' '.hers being I resent, the delfgation was not legally constituted, und had no authority to act under the said Kesolution, which expressly required each of the Colonies to be represented by an equal number of delegates- "That the delegates did not ' ensure just provision for the rights and interests of this Province,' as they w,- re by tho express terms of such aesolutinu bound to do la arranging a scneme of Union, but on the contrary they entirely disregarded those rights and interests, and the scheme by them consented to would if finally confirmed, deprive the people of this Pro- vince of their rights, liberty, and independeiice, rob them of their revenues, take from them the regulation of their trade, coBim rce and taxes, the management of their railroads and other public propirty, expose them to arbitrary and excessive taxation by a Legis- lature over which they can have no adequate control, and reduce this free, happy and self-governed Pro- vince to the degraded condltii of a dependency of Canada. 'That no fundamental or material change of the Constitution of the Province can be made in any other constitutional manner than by a etatuta of the Legis- lataro, sanctioned by the people, after the subject matter of the same has been referred to them at the polls, the Legislature of a colonial dependency having no power or authority implied from their relation to the people as their legislative representatives to over- throw the Constitution under which they were elected and appointed. ♦That the scheme of confederating Canada, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia was never submitted to the people of this Provino at the polls before the i$th day ef September last, upwards of two and a half months after the British North America Act was, by the Queen's Proclamation, declared to be in force, whec the people were thereby Informed that they bad been subjected without theUconsent to the absolute do- minion of more populolkand more powerful colonies, and had lost their liberty " That there being no statute of the Provincial Legislature confirming or ratifying the British North America Act, and the same never having been consent- ed to, or authorized by the people at the P^lls, nor the consentof this Province In any other manner testifi- ed, the preamble of the act reciting (hat this Province had expressed a desire to be confederated with Canada and New brunnwick is untrue, and when the Queen and the Imperial Legislature were led to believe that this Province had expressed such a desire a fraud and Imposition were practised upon them. "That the truth qfthe Preamble of the British North Ainvrica Act, lucitiug iku desire urNuVaotJulia to be confederated is essential to the constitutionality oftheStatutc, and if thesame Is false the Hlututo is defective, because a Statute cannot be rendeted con- stitutional by assuming as true the condlllon which la indiipenslble to its coDStitutiouaUty- " That from the time thh February, 18C8. The House met at 3 o'clock « Jh"** o^3fand;3g Comiiiittces wae re- M fote ^ Pro^inc.al Secrettry, It is M"" fi'"chaH Hon Mr Troopf Mr Towi- send, Mr DesBrifiay, ' no'^'M'''^''""-'"^''"., Provincial Secret<..y. Hon MrFerguM n. Mr Blanohard, Mr Brown. Mr Coohran, Mr Murray, Mr Smith. jJcco««/s.-Mr Northujj, Mr Pineo. Mr Brown, Mr Dickie, Mr Ryerson. Z,a«) jf/7i«w«/men/j.-Hon Mr Troop. Mr Mr wS. ^" ^ McDonald. Mr De^B^isay! ..-^ariculture-Ur Younj?. Mr Campbell. Mr Landers. Mr Copeland, Mr Doucette. Pjivaie and Local Bills -Mr BUnchard. Hon Commr of Works and Mines. Mr Hooner Mr Joseph McDonald, Mr Purdy. ^ ' Mities and Mmerah.—Eon MrFercugon Mr ChamberB. Mr Kirk, Mr North up Mr Townsend, Mr White, Mr Freeman. ^* JVayiXiou.-Mr Johnson. Mr Eieenhauer Trade and Manvfactures. -Mr Cochran. Pineo "• ^'•^°''''«nd. Mr Dickie, Mr i„ '^I'^'v/ ■^«'"«^«s-Hon MrFlynn, Mr Cope- land, Mr Doucette, Mr Hooper. ^' Reporting and Printirig.—Uon Provincial Secretary, Hon Commissr Works and Mines Hon Mr Troop, Mr Pineo. Mr Balcom ' Humane Institutions.-Mr Blancbard. Mr Brown, Mr Murray, Mr Townsend, Mr Des. Brisay, Mr D McDonald, Mr Landers. Contingen ^cs.— Hon Prov Secretary Mr Blancbard, Mr Townsend. *'«'^""y, wr Mr. PiNEo asked what course would bo pursued with reference to petitions a kin? for money grants. ""iiiiig Hon. Speaker explained that they mugtffo *ont from His Excellency of the sums gene> ronsly contributed by Ontario and Quebec, for the relief of the distressed fishermen of the province. Mr. Johnson presented a petition from Shelburne. On motion of Mr. Kidston, a special Corn- mi* tee, consisting of Messrs. Kidston, Kirk, MoDonald, and White, was appointed to consider certain over-expenditures on the road services for the county of Victoria. The House then adjo'irned. 38 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS Saturdat, Feby. 8, 1868, The Houge met »t three o'clook. fr^l''a^°l™^''',S »'«''''"« ''or aid for a road from Stmbro to Terence B»y Hou, Peg. Secy, laid on the table th^ n. per asked for by Mr. MorriJn in respect t'^ Jearr '^ ^^^^^^S^'io" for ihoZTlur Mr. TowNSENi) presented a very Icncthv Uninn"° U' ^^^"""l «^ ^''^ R^Pe-l «" "he of Yartnoith "'^^'^' ^-^ «*'''• ^' ^200 electors McllinnnTT't TPT^^^''^ * petition from N. enJJ''*n?!f,^^'^''' * P«''*'o" from Geo Mis- ener anu others in resinct to a road. r,?!'":.?™'*^ "•'*.•* ^^^ Government for in- n i r i«° concerning the a«e»8ment on reSl iry with a view of dealing with- he question Mr. Chambers prcecnfed petitiono for money grants for roads in ColchrS Dr MuEBAT asked the Government if thev had any papers in rffereoce to the appoint ^unnpr^o*^'*" '^' Legislative Counc' by the rupper Government previous to retirement but only gazetted subsequently '^'^''^^"'«^*' Hon. Peov. Sec. replied that the Dapers in ciuestion were now in^he hands of ?he%7in Dr^^R ?V 'S" ^'^"'^\"} >» Petition from tton for L^^^"'^°'y *''''°^ '■o" compensa- «on for attendance on a prisoner confined in in?i'.*,5\T°'''v,*-5'*''^°° f'-oK" ^ii Nova Sootia haa ed with Canada ty whether she he constitution I a few remarks 'e intend to aend n gantlemen an* len our humble relieve us from da. We go in lat our prayer whom we are i pUced in tbe a colonies were Wo have a with in Queen oach mitiiBiera be Jflst century, ke George III. ; 1 rcyal mind to fstaation of his ! grcateit prin- aaa throne— a in she accepted lat she would to the laws, the realm, her obliga- rayers of her endued most fta." In her every virtue; ^Its her above 1 virtues are lioh adorn her leen like this the people no ire their Sove- ;ver been the oinions. Did heir country pate in rebel- property for 3 a resolution Nova Sootia colonies re- the King to vinoe to as nity. From Nova Sootia iver dwelt in lions. They 18: themselves be restored — lave no right wn. Can any they will be 9 7 We need are pursuing ntimbte end, hat can pre* >rcd to their and that we r the Queen !t the loyalty as any one a the injurieB OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 41 done to this ProviDce within the last sir months. See their liberties taken away ; see them taxed by a foreign and alien Legisla- ture; see their property taken fiom them;— all their outtomi handed over to others, col- lected by strangers before their very eyes. See (tamp duties and tea duties imposed upon them. Those very actj which forced the old thirteen colonies ti rebellion have been im« posed upon Nova Sootia with the same extra- ordinary fatuity. And yet have the people rebelled ? I have beard of no movement of agitation on the part of the people beyond the simple burning in efiigy of one of the de- legates. If that delegate had belonged to the United States, instead of being burned in cfSgy, he would have been burned in reality. If men commissioned by any State in the American Union to negotiate any arrange- ment affecting tbe constitution returned with such a bargain as these men returned with, they would not have been permited to live. The slow process of justice would not have been extended to them, but that has not been the case in Nova Sootia. This law^respecting people have made uu movement, but they are going to submit to it no longer. The time for forbearance is at an end. They had no means of constitutionally speaking until now. and they intend to make use of it. If it should be unsucccsBful, I may be asked what «ill be the consequence ? I am hardly going to anticipate that the appeal of the people can be unBucceesful. I deny the possibility of failure, but then I assert on the behalf of the people as long as the Queen of England extends to the people of Nova Scotia her pro- tection so long will the people refuse to with- draw their auegiance. So long as they arc protected they will be loyal and faithful; and. sir, let it happen that the Queen of Eng- land and her ministers in Parliament, regard- less of the paet, regardless of the loss of the old colonies, shall determine to trample on the rights and liberties of this country; if they should do so, then it will indeed be a dark and gloomy hour. Sir, when by the decrees of inexorabla fate the flag of England and the name of Englishmen shall be taken away from the people of Nova Scotia, and the flag and name of any other country substi- tuted, then I prophesy that this Province will be turned into a house of mourning, and every eye will shed hot burning tears of bittrr regret and inespressible woe. Now, hav'j^ made these preliminary re- marks, I shall turn your attention to the history of our Constitution. I have heard men assert that we have no vsHd constitu- tion—that it is made up of despatches. I have been at the pains of examining into this question, and can show you that Nova b'eotia has had a chartered constitution, an irrevocable constitution — one that no power on earth can take away except "by force or violence. Neither the Queen nor Parliament of England has any right to touch or abro- gate that constitution. This country was i^wifl.* «.a I iiRiijc t.'t jnuau and was in the possession of the French at one time, and in that of the English at an- other—was long, in fact, debateablo ground. The French at last made the settlement of Port Royal, at present called Annapolis. 6 They fortified it in the early part of the 18th century; but an expedition was fitted out by a person of the name of Nicholson, from Boston, who came over and forced the French garrison to capitulate. Conse* quently the Province was at this time con- quered by the British. In 1713, soon after the conquest, by the treaty of Utrecht Louis XIV. assigntJ Acadia to Queen Anne of England, tu herself and her heirs forever. I have before me the language of this treaty— it is striking and plain :— " Yielded and made over to the Queen of Great Britain and to her heirs forever." From that time to this Nova Scotia hta con- tinued to belong to ^he British Crown, and the first inquiry we meet is this — what was the effect of that conquest and subsequent cession by Louis XIV. to Queen Anne ? What was her title ? Her title was absolute, in fee simple— higher than the title any man in England or America possesses to his estate- higher than the title possessed by the Prince of Wales when he purchased, the other day, a hunting ground in England. The Prince of Wales holds his estate from the Queen, who is the lady paramount of all the lands in the country, and he may forfeit it to Her Ma- jesty; but that was not the case with the gift to Queen Anne. She became the absolute owner of Nova Scotia. It did not belong to the people or Parliament of England, who had no more to do with it than the people of Turkey. It was properly transferred, and belonged absolutely to Anne, the Queen of England, and her heirs forever. For 34 years after this cession it remained the proper- ty of the Queen and her heirs, and she could do with it just as she pleased— just as any man in this House might sell an estate belonging to him. She might put a tenant on it, and regulate the covenant under which tbe tenant would hold it. In 1747 it came into the hands of George II., and he, being desirous of having it settled by English subjects, promised the people of England who would undertake the settlement of the country that he would give them the British Constitution in mini .♦•\re. Accordingly he ordered a pa- tent to drawn up, with the Great Seal— a Seal lai^cr than the crown of a hat— for Lord Cornwallis, by which he granted to the people of Nova Scotia the constitution they were to possess. I shall call your atteniion briefly to the words of that part of the patent which refers to the establishment of a Legis* lative Assembly in the Province. He estab- lished by this patent a Governor in the place of King, a Council in the plaQC of Lords, and a House of Assembly in the place of Com- mons, and made the constitution of the colony as nearly like that of Great Britain as he could. " And we do hereby (this pa- tent is dated 6th May, 1747,) give and grant unto you (Edward Cornwallis) full power and authority, with the advice and consent of our said Council, from time to time, as need shall require, to summon and call general assem- bhes of the ffeehuldtra and planters within your jurisdiction according to the usage of the rest of out' plantations in America, and that you, the sfid Edward Cornwallis, with the advice and consent of our House of As- sembly or the major part of it, shall have 42 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS fall power »nd •uthority to mkke and or- dain (here 18 power given to the Legislature) UW8, itatutei and ordiuanoei for the public peace, and welfare, and good government of our laid Province and of the people and in- habttant8 thereof, and luch meaaures as aball -J?-»K° *^? 1'"'^^' °/ "» 8'><^ "!«• 'uoceBiorB, which eaid lawa and ordinances are not to be repugnant, but as nearly agreeable as poesi- of En 1 d • ° ' *'^" °"'" "'*^ Kingdom This iolemn deed and covenant cannot be repudiated After Cornwallis obtainad this patent in 1747, he and the other Governors wfio aucoeeded him were very slow in calline together the freeholders in order to give the people the benefit of this Assembly, and ao- cordingly in 1757, or ten years after the granting of the patent, a correspondence took place between the Ministers of George U.and Governor Lawrence, in which the Mmisters called upon the latter to execute that deed, and to give to the people their Legisla- tive Assembly. Mr. Lawrence thought he could make as good laws as any Ai8<,mbiy. and he and his Council persisted m oassing UWB. From the time the constitution was given, inatead of calling the Legislature to- gether, he aummoned the Council, and with them made lawa for the government of the Province. In 1755 the aubjeot was brought to the notice of the Crown Offioera of Eng- land, for the people of Nova Scotia com- plained that their charter had not been car. ned into effect, and aome of them refuaed obedience to the ordera in Council, on the ground that no rules and regulations oould be made for the government of the people except through the House of Assembly; after that charter had been given. The matter waa referred to William Murray and Richard i°??"~J''*® /"o'oe." »nd Solicitor Qenerala of England— the former of whom subse- quently became Lord Manifield, one of the most eminent of Englieh jurists. And here 18 their opinion—" We have taken the said observations into our consideration, and we are humbly of opinion that the Governor and Council alone are not authorized by His Majesty to make lawa." _ Here is the opinion of these distinguished jurists that the king could not make laws for the colony. The King having given the charter in question, had no power to make lawa. Wherever a country is conquered, the conqueror to whom it is ceded has the power to do as he or she pleases in ita management. He may, if he chooaea, allow the inhabitanta of that country to make their own lawa, or put them all to death, or he may send them a code of laws made by himself, and allow his Governors to execute them within the coun* try. But if he confers upon the country any privileges, the deed ia obligatory upon him- self and heira, and he cannot annul it, he is bound to aubmit to it. It ia just the same with an individual : as soon aa he signs a deed for a piece of land to his neighbor, neither he nor his heirs, can afterwards dis* pute that seal. The day the King signed that deed and appended the seal to the oommisgion of the Governor, he conceded the power to make lawa. Both his Attorney and Solicitor Generals tell him, we have leoked at Lord Cornwallis' patent, and you have not the power to make such laws. No law can bo binding upon the people of Nova Scotia ex- cept 8uoh as are passed in accordance with thatchartei. lo show how completely irre- vocable these charters are, I will briefly call your attention to a case which arose many years after, in 1774. Lord Mansfield then de- livered his opinion, in the Court of Queen's Bench, upon a case which had been a number of times solemnly argued. After the conquest of Grenada, the King of Eogland gave a Com- miiaion to a gentleman of the name of Mel. ville, almost identically the same as that he gave to Cornwallis. This deed waa aigncd in the month of April, 1764, but Governor Mel- ville did not proceed to take charge until the tallowing December. In the meantime the King iiaued letters pitent under the great «eal, on the 20th July, 1764, laying I tax upon the people of Gren»da— performing, in fact, an act of legialation. The oaae was brought up for argumont; the merchant who had paid the tax having came over to Jt.ngland, and having beon allowed to try it by the Attorney General. The judgment of the Court waa that the tax waa illegal beoauae the King, when he signed that Commiaaion to Melville, ceased to have any power over Grenada. Here are aome of the observations naade by Lord Mansfield : " After fall con. Bideration. we are of opinion that before the letters patent of the 20th July, 1764, the King had precluded himself from the exercise of legislative authority over the island of Gren- *.*• .,. -^8*^" ^° "i<* '■ " We therefore think after the_ * * * * * ^^d the Commission of Governor of Melville, the King had immediately and irrecoverably granted to an who are or shall become inhabitants of Grenada, the right of having their legislation exercised by an Assembly and a Governor in Council." Now, Mr, Speaker, 1 shall endeavor to bring this argument to a close by invitine the attention of the House, and of the peopli or England to whom I am speaking at thia monient, to the great importance of Nova Scotia to the British Empire. Thia is a sub- jeot which baa never been well considered. Ihe old colonies are the most valuable por- *^<'P? °V*°* earth— by the stubbornness of a British King and the stupidity of his Minis- ters they were lost to the Empire; and that dismemberment was the most serious that ever befell the British nation. Lord Chatham actually died protesting againtt it. Nova Scotia stands on thb front of the American con- tinent just aa England does in that of Europe '^i'epoMesses great mineral wealth, the source of England's greatness. Her coal and iron with the energy of her people, have brought the mother country tc her present high con- dition. We possess the same advantf res— we too are almost an island. If Nova Scotia were lost to England she might bid s " New Brunswick, to Prince Edward leU i to Newfoundland. These four Maritin. incea together have a territory similarly situated to the British Isles, and are capable n. gvisfamiBg a pOjpuIation equal to tUeire. Now Great Britain has been to Nova Scotia a very aflfectionate parent. She has been most kind to us, but we sometimcB hear the statei- u have not the No law can be Vova Scotia ex- toaordsnce with ompletely irre- irill briefly call ch arose many iDifield then de- 3urt of Queen'a been a number ter the conquest Qd gave a Com- name of Mel« ame as that he I was signed in Governor Mel- large until the meantime the nder the great I, laying a tax performing, in The case was the merchant ? came over to lowed to try it I judgment of illegal because t Commission y power over e observations ifter fall oon» }at before the L764, the King ie exercise of iland of Gren- lierefore think * and the rille, the King )Iy granted to ohabitantB of eir legislation I Governor in endeavor to i by inviting of the people iking at this noe of Nova 'hit is a sub- 1 considered, aluable por- }ornnes8 of a of his Minis- re; and that serious that ord Chatham Et it. Nova merioan oon- at of Europe, h, the source III and iron, KTe brought at high con- antfges— we Nova Scotia bid p "■ ■ ■ - i Islk -i ritin., ..^,j y similarly are capable i tj tueira. ova Scotia a ^8 been most r thestatet- OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 43 men of Englanc^ grnmbling a little about the expense incurred in defending these colonies. I must confess I cannot see wliat that expense is. Great Britain is a maritiine nation and a military power. She must have the best na> vies on the ocean and one of the strongest armies in the held. Where could she main- tain her troops and navy more economically than in these Colonies. The climate is a very healthy one; the statistics show that mortality here is less than in any other part of the world. The people of Eng- land woild never con&entto a standing army remaining in their own country. Therefore the scattering of the troops through the colo- nies has been a kind of necessity. Therefore, so far from those colonies costing England anything they are little or no expense to her. She was always a kind mother although not a wise one at times. When she adojited her trade policy in 1848 she left these colonies en- tirely unprotected; she left the trade of Nova Scotia to be managed by people who knew nothing about it. She had up to that time managed our trade herself; she withdrew her fostering care and left us to walk alone. We have managed to live very happy and con- tentedly, but she did not act wisely towards these colonies. Since 1848 no less than six millions of people have left England, Ireland and Scotland ; where have they gone to ? They have gone directly past us into the United States. If England had been a judi- cious foster mother she would have diverted the emigration into these colonies. If she had encouraged the commercial advantages of Nova Sootia and the agricultural capabi- lities of Canada we would now be a strong nation instead of having only four millions of souls in our midst. We would have a po- pulation of nine or ten millions, and instead of being afraid of invasion the people of the United States would be pleased to think during their internecine war that such was the peaceful character and orderly disposi* tlon of Her Majesty's Colonies in America that there was no danger to be apprehended from them. I believe there is no time that a parent knows the value of the child he loves until he hears the cold earth falling upon the coflBn, and the sad words, " earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust." Let England transfer this little province to the United States, and she will, after a few years' time, wake up to the loss she has sustained. If the people of the United States succeed in restoring the union, in heal! jg the diflFerences between the North and the South, and in concentrating their tremendous energies, she must become one of the greatest powers of the world. She is now a great naval power, but give her the bar- hour of Halifax,— which in her hands could be made jusi as impregnable as Gibraltar. Give her the coal, iron, and fisheries of Nova Scotia, and her power will be largely increas- ed, and millions of people will pour into this country. The fisheries alone of these provinces «fnnM Vio t/\ *Ua TTh:*..^ a^-x . j. a million or a million and a half of seamen. How long would England then boast of her maritime supremacy 7 When the American* had only a few miserable ships they brought more disgrace upon the Britiih flag thui ws other nation ever suco* oded in doing. What would they be if, when challenged to the test by Great Britain, they had possession of the Colonies in addition to their ordinary strength? Suppose in the order of thinga France, another great naval power, should combine her energies with those of the United States, agkinst England, in what position would the mother country be 7 How could ■he contend with such maritime nations as these? Therefore the loss of th«se .colonies might leadtothedegradation of England, and instead of standing at the head of nations she might be lowered to the condition of a secon- dary state, if indeed she were not v^uuverted into a province of France. I shall now very briefly call the attention of the House to the resolutions before it. They develope the areumenta on which we ask for a repeal of the Union. The first clause contends that the Legislative Assembly of Nova Scotia had uo power to change the con- stitution; they had none except what was given them in the charter. Parliament had no power over this country— it never had any. This country belonged to the Queen of England, and our Assembly had no constitu' tlonal right to consent to or make the slight* est alteration in the constitution under which they were elected to make laws. That is the position which we take, and I would like to see the British constitutional authorities ex- amine this subject, for I am convinced they will acknowledge that I am correct. The second resolution is to the effect that the only authority which the Delegates had was derived from the Assembly, who had no power to give any such authority at all. Even this authority, however, they disregard- ed. Their authority simply extended to the negotiation of the terms of a Federal union between all the British North American Colo- nies. They had no power to select three pro- vinces and confederate them, and therefore in that respect they did not act up to their authority. Then, sir, their delegation was not legally constituted. If I gave a power of Attorney to A. B. and C. to transact business for me, A. and B. cannot do it without C, unless I make it optional for them to do it jointly or severally; but if I authorize three men jointly to execute a deed for me, or do any other act, any two of them cannot legally perform the duty. If the House of Assembly authorized a delegation to be constituted, consisting of an equal number of men from Upper and Lower Canada, New Brunswick, Prince Edward's Island, Newfoundland, and Nova Scotia, the delegates had no power to act unless this stipulation was carried out. No constituent assembly was constituted— it could make no constitution, or do any act until all the delegates were present. If there were 5 from one province and 6 from another, the whole proceeding was a nullity, because the delegation was not constituted according to their instructions. Then again they were told that they were to make just provi- aion for the rights and interests of "Nova Scotia. How did they do that ? They gave the whole province away. We had & vTell- -working constitution; we made our o-wn laws, raised our own revenues, and tas ed ouriehea. Wo owned railwayo, fisheries, f md 44 DEBATES ANT) PROCEEDINfiS li ' ' s i Mi other public property, but they gtve them all away for nothing. We o»n at any moment be taxed to any extent arbitririly by an olisrarohy in Canada. lu- eixth reaolution ststeg that no change oan be made without an appeal to thepeopPa. Hero 18 a self-evident propoiition. The oon- ■titution belong* to whom 1 To tbo Houee of ^Membly ? No. To Iho Lesialative Coun- cil T Wo. It 18 the pro lerty of the people of JMovaSootia-every mar., wom»a ar.d child are the ownerg, and it cannot be taken away from them without their con«ent. Even the arbitrary monarchies of Europe admit that principle. When Napoleon Keized upon the Lmpire what did he do '! At all events he went throusih the ceremony of sending around the ballot box, and asking the people whether they were willing to change their constitu- tion. The other day two States - Italy. Nice and Savoy, were transferred aiter the Austrian campaign, and whit was done? i)id one king sit down and cede the country to the other? No; the people were called upon to decide whether they were prepared to accept the changp of consltution or not. No constitution jsn bo lawfully and constitutionally taken itway without coneultx ing tlie people who own the constitution, inis 18 a self-evident proposition— just as evi- dent as the fact that no man can have his tarm taken away from him without his oon« sent. These resolutions go on to argue that thi- people of Nova Scotia were never coDRultcd ?°!:' xt'^^J®"' September, 1867. aft?r the Bri- tjrh North America Act had passed th* Pam nament. and the Queen had jjiven it f )rcc by her proclamation. They were then for the lirst time asked whether they were willin" to accept the change of constitution. Then'did the people answer emphatically that thcywould have nothing to do with it. These resolutions state that the preamble of the Imperial Statute IS false, and I believe that when the Quebec Echeme went home no such word'r were in it But no sooner did the crown officers cast their eyes over it than they, knowing the constitu- tional course in all such matters, perceived that It was impoBBiblo for the Imperial Gov- ernment to legislate upon the question with- out the consent or request of the people of these colonies. Accordingly they added the preamble declaring that "whereas the people of Canada, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick desire to be federally united, &o." That statute could not have been placed before the Imperial Parliament unless it had these words init, for it would be unconstitutional un- less the people of these colonies had testified their assent to it. Therefore the preamble ?? ,, I'^V.*^® ■***"*« " unconstitutional and falls to the ground. The resolutions go on to say that the peo# pie were not only not consulted, but that they were purposely and designedly prevent- ed from being consulted. Is not that a true tt jtement ? What did the House of Assembly WHO recently sat upon these benches, "ath no great credit to them, do in the month of March last ? When it was movp.l that ti,n p«opie of Nova Scotia had aright to bo con- sulted at the polls, whether they mid con« sent to be confederated or not, tha esolution r«.f' u"** ^^ ^^ '?*'°»' 1« represcnta- these 32 persons ? The servants of the Exe- cutive Council; they ignored the authority of the people, and said that the constitution of Nova Scotia Monjred to Dr. Tupper and a Ifln'S"'- ^''? ^ •*»'"'^ *« ''*vc asserted strictly in aocordsnce with the fact that the people of Nova Scotia were systematically and persoveringly kept from passing upon the subject of confederation. Wo have also sta cd with truth that the last election turned entirely upon confederation. I Jjave heard men venture to assert that other issues en- tered into that election, but men who say this will state anything. No man living be- fore or during the election, can venture to deny the fact that confederation was the great question which excited the people from one end of the province to the other. Now here is another clause which tells ub that these colonies were, ir ihe opinion of the people of Nova Scotia, unitsd to each other by a connection better and superior to that of any confederation that could be derived rh,n«!''"i? IK"" f*''.'!''* "*i ''««» terms. matter of political opli.;o'». I have always bought that the system of confederation was the worst by which we could be united. It ia impossible sn to regulate the conflicting in- erect i of the different countries in a manner that will prevent conflict? and difficulties arising. If you leave to the several countries their individuality and allow them to retain tucir local legislatures nhilst you attempt to ^'Tu'^^lu*^ ^^'^ "°»« *'•»« under one general head, the experiment will be fatal— in lime It must and will end in civil war aud ihe shedding of blood. I believe that r™'.'"/^V^5*^J''°°« of the world with respect to Confederation. The provinces have now four govemmcnte instead of three, if thpy were really united they would bo Etro ger inasmuch as the whole is strong- er than the parts, they would have oue head, one tariff. On the other hand, for the reasons 1 have previously given, the system of Con- federation 18, m reality, the worst that could be devised for these Colonies, if the wish is to fS ^'^^^°°y "d prosnerity among We shall pass these resolutions and we may. It necessary, add one or two more; and when we have done so, it is the design of the Go- vernment and House to send Delegates to Eng- land as soon as we can. to submit to the Queen a humble Address, embracing the substance of these resolutions; and 1 have much pleasure in announcing, so far as I am able to judge, my belief and conviction that the Delegation cannot possibly fail of euooess. SPEECH OP HON. MR. TBOOP. Hon. Mr. Teoop said:— In rising this af- iaM^°K *1^^°°iV^ *^® resolutions ifid on the table by the Attorney General I feel. Mr! Speaker. thU I would like to have the Par- .!arr!i;n,ary ej.i.eiience of yourself or of the r.°5\?®°"^"*?»?'^'*8'*'i»''>'y and eloquently laid the case of Nova Scotia before the House. Before taking up the thrcad.of the argument 1 letm the I mI OCOU] 9 sheo m gisia a of C( ■f peace ni the SI m conte iB sea fl those m fauic OP THE HOUSK OF ASSEMBLY. 45 let me for a little while turn the attention of the Ilonie to the poiitior ^hioh Nova Scotia ocoupiea to'dey aa oompar«d with tbat whiot she oooupied a few yeare ago, before our Lc- giilkture undertook to deal with the queetion of Confederation. The Provinoe waa then peaceful, proiperoua -ind hJippy— lying alonp the aeaboard our people had iited free and contented,— their aailora went down ttt the aea in abipa,— their abipbuildera aent out thoie rriArnbantmeu for which Nova tiootia ia faiued, beariuK the Ihpt of England oter the wide world,— capitaliem were developing the minea of the country, and throughout the length and breadth of the land there were cvidencea tbat Nova Scotia waa risiLg to be a free, rich, happy and prosperous country. If there had been anything occurring among ua t ; change that state,— had there been a voii:3 in Nova Scotia raised > gainst the potition we were occupying or any of our surround- ing circumstances,— anything leading our people to seek political and cuostitutional changes, — we might have less cause for com- plaint, and 'he members of this Legidaturo would not be in he position which they oc- cupy to d»' called upon to take a bold stand for the ri; aud liberties of their country- men. I ie that our country is yet a British o<. > ,— that we have the British flag above > f heads and the British conati- tiou at our back, and that in this disousaion we can rise superior to the little knot of ser- vile tools, who, in defiance of public opinion, have had the audacity to slander and insult the people to their teeth. In the argument which I am going to use on this occasion I will show that the people of Nova Scotia asked for no constitutional changes and de- sired none, and that the public records are replete with proofs of the assertion. When I look across the water at Old England, and learn from her history what struggles were required to make her what she is today, I rejoice that in this country we can trace back our anoeatry to some of the men who had fought their nation up to her present high standard. And looking there for pre- cedent instead of pnblia discussion and free debate being confined, instead of her public men taking a leap in the dark, and the opponents of any great measure being taunted with disloyalty, we find in the Par- liament, in the press, and on the platform equal f^ee, open, manly argument and de- bate,— we find none of the loyalty which is dressed out in buckram and court trappings, we find the people understanding their rights and liberties, and bringing to the front the highest statesman in the land who dares to override a single right which the people poaaees. ^&ii. In entering on this discussion I do so feel- ing that I am a British subject, that I have the same rights which a man has who is born on th.-soiiof£Bgland. And I feel likewise that if this dicoustion could have been trans- ferred across the Atlantic, the delegates and the contemptible press that supported them would have had to debate this question on its merits, and not in such a way as to out«i rage the feelings of all who were not subser- vient to their views. I will not travel far bwk over the records ioaohiog this vexed (lueition, for the main arguments lie in ao narrow a compass that in a short time 1 think I can oring forward the whole case fully and fairly aa it stands between Nova Scot ia and Canada. I think it is our duty in this debate to throw ail the light that ia available on the question, and to |>roduce all the .information from publ . despatches and otherwise, that may strengthen our case when it comes to be laid before the Parlia- ment of Great Britain. In the first place then I ask the attention of the House to a ilespatch dated m 1859, signed by Messrs. (Jartier, Iloee and Oalt, three of the leading statesmen of Canada, and by this I will bring Canada to bear witneaa as^'tinat Cana- da. It ia not the people of tne Maritime Provinces who originated the charges against the Canadians, of which 'e have so olten beard, for theao three gentlemen ad* mitted that in 1858 to sach an extent had party strife and fa'-*ion gone, that the poli- ticians of that cot itry were like so many Kilkenny oata tetring at each other's tL ^oats, and we find that those al)le minds of tish America had brought their country o a (tite of degradation and confusion, so 'ex< tricable that they were obliged to go to the parent country and ask the Britiah govern- ment to relieve them of their difficulties by dragging in the Maritime Provinces. That despatch elicited a iHfiJ froia Sir. £. Bulwer Lyttjn, then Secretary of State fo. the Colo> nies, and what was that reply? "Nova Sootia has a constitution of her own,— her people have done nothing to forfeit their constitutional rights, they are loyal to the Crown, and while they maintain their allegi'- ance and p^irform their duties as good citia zen's and free born sabjecti of the Empire, we will not interfere with them,— go and do your own work,— shew that you are fit to govern yourselves, and then get the people of the other Colonies to join you ifyoucan!" That was the substance of the advice which Sir Bulwer Lytton gave to those statesmen. Did they take it ? Not they — but immediate- ly commenced plotting to obtain by artful wiles what they could not obtain fairly and constitutionally. Here is the record of Canadian faction, as drawn by three of her oldest statesmen : "It is our duty to state tbat very gravo difficulties now preiaent themselves in aon> ducting the Government of Canada in such a manner as to shew due regard to the wishes of its numerous population. The Union of Lower with Upper Canada was bas^d upon perfect equality being preserved between these Provinces, a condition the more neoei- sary from the differences in their respective language, law and religion— and although there is now a large Eogliah population in Lower Canada, still their differences exist to an extent which prevents any perfect and complete assimilation of the views of the two sections. "At the time of the Union Act, Lower Canada possessed a Jiuch larger population than Upper Canada, but this produced no difficulty in the Government of the united Province under tbat Act; since that period, however, the ]}rogresa of population has been more rapid in the western seotion, and 46 ?InfT f! * °°?' ratdeon behalf of its inhabi- t"u/?' eivmgthem reprewntation in the ihllh i''-*'°^'"*'P°'**°°'o «»>«!•• numbers, wh oh claims inveefme, it is beliered. a mos whi«K''.l.°»'?f^-"°*'' ''•'' '^'^ principles upon Tr^ .»in '^°'?° ''!' ^"«<^' h»ve been, knd "fVh'T"".' y-"*'l*'"^''y Lower Canad.r frauahf S* " /''i^° ^y "» agitation ;n!»^o '"'•'' «■■"* "^"eer to the peaceful Suvit/^"";""?? »°'kiDgof our constitution, ai system, and consequently detrimental to the progress of the Province "'''"°"'*' *° a JJtt °!°^f^'*y of providing a remedy for wor« »„, nf '°,f .♦»"'*'« ye"ly becoming worse, and of allaying fee ings that are dailv aggravated by the contention of political Eff'^' '""P^^ed the advisers ^of Her Majesty's representatives in Canada virith the importance of seeking for such a mode of dealing with these difficulties as may forever remove them. In this view, it has appeared advisable to them to consider howTr the rS/ ^°'^'. T/**" Upper Canada could be whh thP Ifr^'^'y ^Ji«"'''« in combination wan tbe Provinces of New Brunswick Nov* Scotia Newfoundland and ffie Edward t mat" ITh'^'%^''^^^.°^ '^♦^^ te?ritSs as It may be hereafter desirable to incoroorate with such confederation from the possessions of the crown in British North America. M.Wv5!.°«""^°"^ *" convinced that Her Mijesty 8 Government wil' be fully alive to ?errX' T^Y' "-^ "'^ circumstances re- Jerred to. which are stated by them under the Mlresponnbility of their position asTdvis. fsfiefthat'tho"*.-'" ^«''"'^«.- ^"^y »"«»- nffl I i- *•"* .''™® ^" »r"ved for a consti- tnt onal discussion of all means whereby the cmls of internal dissension may be avoided K?Card7-^""* ''^^^"'^-'^ «^^'^« -' T^ «^S/hf *'''','"^."»ee shows what the ]» ws of the people and government of Can- Jif;S,^.«*j.*bout loyaltrabout' t'h"neces! sity of binding together thee- Colonies Ly an r.nX'""'" K^i'road; but did the peopfe of ters th.„y^ w^'^^i"^ about such small mat- ters then ? Were they fi led with lovaltv amJ prompted by a desire to build up^aiecond iiDgl^nd on this continent 7 We hear not * word about that; but they ttll thn RriH.K tooth and nail; we cannot get alone harmn niously; and because we arf in tha°fondit?on I^rP?^ .T"-""" '^"J^^y '« Rovernment to brin° of ?h«* m"' ■? "•'?.'' ^*" g>^« "" the control of the Maritime Provinces." This is th toranl r'^'r *'^?' ^ P-ducl agai '« i^anada, and I produce it to show that in •skmg for a Union the Cnnadians.ln tead of thT.fwSh*''* T'^ '^«""S« so nob?e\1 «f«H ^i-^^^'^A'^e bcea ascribed to them-in- En^!r "• ?" ^'^'^y *^"'"'«'^ was to get re- WeTrn P°° ^y papulation, in order .hat Western Canada mirht govern British Ame nf thp m.«''1.'''15 councils in 1760, instead ♦hVu.fT° '*'*' •'•^*' '"'«<* Nova Scotia for the last torn- years, our history would have DEBATES ANT) PROCEEDINGS told a different tale. If we had been governed b.v the men who helped to build our consti- laLe ! T ^°?^'^ °°' ""W be engaged in a utp f'^'^^^'^^i' regain what perfidy has reply, sTs :- ^ ^"^"^ ^''''''' ^" ^^' *' The question, how* .'cr, is one which in. vo ves not merely the interests of the import. S?K '/ '"*'"^ '"^ '^-P'^ t^nJidrti^n^ i^o w?K ^0'«"«'ent8 if we were to author^ ize, without any previous knowledge of their views, a meeting of delegates from the Execu tive Councils, and thus to commit them to a moi^n?"^ ^''P.^"""'^'' the settlement of a jet signified their assent to the principle " »ifh ♦v."^'^* ?-^°® °^ evidence in connection wi h this subject we find in the Journals of 1861 when a resolution was pas.ed on the construction of which the Canadian delegates aw»y this country. I have heard, as the hada r?A.P»'°f ""^; J5'* ^'^^ legislatur! i»tof. l^^* '° ^"i"' »* ^^^' »n'' Not a word was said about that. These re- solutions were acted upon by the Nova Scotia Qovernment; but no sooner did the delegate* SO down to Charlottetown, than Lord Mo?ok with a strange as-umption of power, rttempt^ e.l to lead them from their legitimate mission sVVvl" *'"?i despatch, dated 30th June," 18(34, to Msjor-General Doyle, who then ad- ministered the Government of Nova Scotia • 1 have the honor to inform you that it i« the wish of the Canadian Government to send a Delegation to attend the Conference which Us proposed to hold this year, of gentlemen representing respectively. Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island with a view to the Union of those Provinces The object of the Canadian GovArnm«n° i- *- - jJeriain wtievher the proposed Union may not Nnwh r " '™^'?f ' '^^ 'bole of the British u^"" American Provinces, I shall feel much n&^.^r." '•'i"''orm me of the tim"and place vhich have been f.xed on for the meet- OP ran HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 47 been governed Id our consti- engsged in » t perfidy hns Lytton, in hig :)ne which in* 3f the impuit- I relations to- position and marican Pro- binli that we coQBideration ire to author- ledge of their m the Execu- lit them to & ttlement ot a hey have not principle." n connection e JournalB of aeied on the ian delegates t to legislate 3ard, as the 8 legislature that the de' did, beoauro I merely ex- lestion of a n before the the parpose eat, the go- ) send delf ians on that ttream rixe he delegates «me of their iead letter; ition was set tea and this !»uBe when le Maritime 1 Secretary a effect that qjestion of ff a not then fat Britain SJanada— to I one foot e Pacific?" These re- ^ova Scotia le delegates rd Monok, r, rttempt- te mission. 30th June, then ad- » Scotia : II that it is 3nt to send noe which gentlemen 3otia, New land, with 3oes. The 1 may not le British feel much I time and the meet- ing; and I trust the presence of '\ Canadian Delegation will be agreeable to their brethern of the Maritime Provinces." I am dealing with this question from a con- stitutional point of view, and bringing to the bar of public opinion Lord Monck, and the delegates who attempted to override the con- stitution. The doctrine that they had the right to do as they did, seems to have dawn- ed on their minds at a very late date, for Dr Tupper's government, through Sir Richard Mclionnell, replied to Lord Monck in the fol- lowing language : " In the meantime I can assure your Lord- ship of the extreme pleasure which it will attord this Government, to confer unofficially with any l)elegates sent from Canada. It is, however, necessary to remind your Lordship that no Resolution has yet been passed by any of the Legislatures of the Maritime Pro- vinces, authorising the appointment of Dele- gates for any purpose but that of considering some plan for the Union of the three Pro- vinces. Therefore, neither I nor my Ministry have the power to go beyond the exaet pow» ers conferred by that Resolution." This is oonfctituticnal law as laid down by Dr. Tupper and his Government,— there is a statement deliberately made by the Govern- ment, but which they saw fit to repudiate in twenty days 'fter date. And what did Mr. Cardwell say on the subject ? Did he say "you have not carried out the policy of this Gov* ernment— the British Government desire Con- federation with Canada to take place ?" Not a word or a syllable to that effect came across the water, but in plain and ex» plicit terms the people were told that the official mission was to consider a union of the Mariime Provinces. Twenty days af- terwards we find these delegates going to Quebec. I will not follow them tbsre among the champagne revelries and drunken routs, —wo have heard sufficient of that. Instead ofaotingas if they were laying the founda- tion of a great nation, it appeared as if they had gone off to a midnight rout or a shindy in the backwoods. But the fact is that the Canaditins having got the delegates into the leading strings entrapped them into the Que- bec resolutions. Then wo all know that when the Legislature attempted to desl with the question it excited one universal storm of dis- approbation throughout the country. When public opinion is formed in this country upon anyfgrave subject, it is by neighbor meeting neighbor around the fireside, in social gather- ings, and by friendly, mutual conversation, —then comes into play the intelligence of the country. I have heard ignorance imputed to our people,— and it was said that the ignorant class of the population are AntinUnioniBts,— thatagreat many able and intellectual men !iU the judges, all the ministers and all the hign functionaries arc in favor of the Union. I tske here a bold stand and say : Suppose the judges and ministers and nabobs and high officials are in favor of it, what is that if (he people are against it ? The people are thp crpntnaf fnr> i^ »-/m. ^1n.>_„,. .u. - i . rifhts you impair the whole fabric of the crnstititution. Destroy those rights and you make the people fed degraded, and what then :8 the value of courts of justice and schools and pulpits? Give the minds of the people free room and play— do not put a padlock or a gag upon them. It is that intelligence run- ninglike lightning through the land that has shattired the ranks of the Confederate par'y to atoms. When the Legislature came to deal with the question at its first session the dele- gates ( led to carry out the arrangements they had made with their colleagues in Ca. nida They were to have asked the House to agree by resolution to the Quebec re- solutions. Why did they not do it? Be- cause^, there were no corrupting influences at work,— the majority of the Legislature were opposed to the, scheme,— they told the 1 remier they would not consent to a union with Canada on such .erms, and imoreover that they would agree to no scheme which liad not been ratified b^ the people. The re- sult was thaf the Prem.^r declared the me»» sure impracticable, and led the people to sup- pose that the whole question was at an end,— that there was no necessity for agitation. Coming down a little later we find that the 1 remier sncceeded in successfully bringing the matter before the Legislature, and having his policy ratified against the wishes of the people. Here he is met by a protest signed by members of the Opposition in which they solemnly declared the rights of the people. How was that protest treated 7 What did 'he Executive Council say to it, and to the .vast majority of the people of this country ? ••In conclusion, the Council may state that more than a year since they submitted the proceedings of the Quebec Conference to the Legislature, that the subject of a union of the British North American Colonies has been constantly discussed in this Province since that time. Yet the opponents of union were only able to obtain the signatures of 8.- 085 people out of a population of not less than 350,000 for presentation to the House during the present session, praying that it might be referred to the people at the polls. Ihe foregoing resolution, after full delibera- tion and discussion, was carried in the Legis- lative Council by a vote of 13 to 5, and in the House of Assembly by 31 to 19. All the mem- bers of the present Government and four members of the late Government, of which Mr. Howe was the leader, united in sustain- ing the resolution, while but two voted against it." That Minnte of Council, prepared in the- secrecy of the Council Board, under the- direction of Sir Fenwick Williams, the Lieu- tenaiit Governor of Nova Scotia, was sent to. linglaud, and it stands on our Journals stamping the men who framed it with the crime of gross misrepresentotion. They knew they were deceiving the British Govern- ment—that under cover of that despatch they were perpetrating an act of gross injustice and doing a cruel wrong to the people of iNova Scotia. Determined to trick the coun- try and to perpetrate a fraud, they had left out of the Governor's speech at the opening of the session all mention of Confederation and Hi A iafe period of the session, when no" petitions had been presented in consequence, of the assurance that nothing would be c'rne. that country was taken by surprise. itM, Minute of Council, framed by he Govern- 48 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS III i: iifi: mant, who had • fall knowledge of the withea of the people, koaaring the OoTernment that only 8000 penoni hkd petitioned againit the meaaare, waa calculated to lead that Govern* ment to auppose that the grest majority of the pimple were in favor of the union. I aak, then, in view of the state of public opin- ion at that period il the government of the day did not know that the statement con- tained in saoh Minnta waa a deliberate un» truth? I ask if it waa not made to mislead and deceive the British Government? Its authors doubtless supposed that it would be shut eat from the public eye until it had done its work, and aftsr ih«t they thought it would be too late for anything to be said about it. They sent it to the Imperial Parliament with no honest intention. Following rapidly down thereoord, let me ask why it was that about this time there were such breaks in the ranks of those in this Legislature who were known to be determined opponents of Con- federation when every day intensified the feeling of the country against the resolutions which had been adopted by the House? Can we not see in the subi^eqaent results : in members giving up their opposition for valu- able consideration— for high and influential positions elsewhere a great deal of signifi- cance. Those gentlemen may have been as pure, as innocent and as contoientioas as they claim to be— they may never have had a single stain upop their political integrity— their palms may never have felt n single piece of gold, but I cannot help thinking that if the Attorney General had a fellow in the dock, charged with a criminal offence,, with evidence so presumptive against him, he would make a pretty strong case of it, and the jury would not have much hesitation in pronouncing him guilty. There is suffl- oient evidence, taking all the manoeavring of the gentlemen who had the matter in hand, to shew a deep design to keep the people from expreiitiing their opinions. They kept us from the polls up to the latest hour well knowing what the result of an election would be. When the elections did oonie off, the men who had been engaged in bartering their country away— the men who had thrown their influence against their own people, and in favor of Canada, hardly dared to ask for the confidence and support of the people. The day of reckoning has come with overwhelming power, and the feel- ing of the people against this enforced union has ever since been increasing in strength. It is like the rushing wind from the mountain carrying everything before it. When we find the men who on that day were rejected by the people whom they L^d betrayed leaving their country for Ottawa, I say if they can there find consolation around the palatial halls of that city or a panacea for their wounded consciences, there is no reason that I can Boe why Nova Scotia should not be very glad to get rid of them. I next wish to direet the attention of the House to the ac- tion of the delegates when they went on their mission across the water, and carried their measare to the House of Commons and tho Ho«Be of Lords. Wo then find Mr. Watkin making a speech that has attained great no- toriety, and has become matter of history. Bat for bis declaration who believes that thti British Houre of Commons would have legis- lated against our interssts 7 But for his asa surance that Confederation had been before the people of Nova Scotia at the polls, who can imagine that we would have been forced into this l^hateful and detested union 7 For who could doubt in the House of Commons the assertion made by Mr. Watkin that Dr. Tapper had preached Confederation at eyery polling booth previous to the election, com- ing, as it did, from the Premier himself? How could it be supposed that the accredited minister of the Province of Nova Scotia would resort to evasion and deception ? Sir, in view of these facts, I may say that I would like no better case to present, on behalf of a free people^ in any court of law or equity thaii that which can be presented by the people of Nova Scotis. Then, again, let me turn attention to the one-sided, partial and unjustifiable action of Lord Monck. I speak of him witli all the respect due to his tiigh position, but I cannot pass over a declaration made in his speech in the House of Lords without comment. We find his lordship leaving his post on this continent, going home with the delegates, taking his place in the House of Lords, where it was supposed he fully understood the feel- ing both of the Maritime Provinces and Can- ada, and that he would be possessed of full information, there stating that the agitation in Nova Scotia was the work of half a dozen men. 1 can excuse His Excellency for any- thing but that; and when we find that speech on the public records of the country, with» out note or comment from him, after the 18th of September has passed ond left such evi- dence behind of the real feeling of the people of Nove Scotia. I say that the Qovernor,Geto- oral was in no position to open the Domin* ion Parliament with the speech which he made. Instead of congratulating the people of Nova Scotia on their being engaged in in" augurating the new Dominion, he should have told our people that they had been de- graded. He should have explained away the speech which he made when, to carry Con- federation and help his Canadian friends and their party, he went to the House of Lords and used the following language :— "Lord Monck expressed a hope that their lordships would permit him to say a few words upon the Bill, considering the share which he had had in its origination. He would at the outset refer to one thing, which appeared to him of great importance in a constitutional point of view. It had been, he thought, most unwarrantably assumed that the Province of Nova Scotia was opposed to the union. Now, he believed the expres- sion of opinion which had come from Nova Scotia to this country had been entirely got up by a few energetic individuals. The Leg- islature of Nova Sootia had, like the Legis< latures of the other provinces, adopted by large mBJorities the resolutions proposed to thfln!: acd had sent their delef^atsK tn this country to take part in the fra"ming of the measure which had been laid on the table, . The demands of those gentlemen inTJova ' Sootia, if they amounted to anything, meant that the question should be subjected to the OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 49 decision of the people, instead of its being determined by the people's representatives. Such a demand, to his mind, betrayed a great ignorance, not only of the principles of the British Constitution, but of the principles on which all Parliamentary GoTcrnment wis founded." His lordship had read the history of his own country to little purpose when ho could make that declaration. What is that history composed of for the last two hundred years but the history of men oftentimps struggling through bloodshed to the enjoyment of their Tights— the record of men of great intellect —men whose names have been emblazon "jd on the roll of fame, fighting for the grcit principles which have made England tbe mistress of the world, the country io which every distressed nationality resorts as a city of refuge, under whose flag the exile is safe. Once upon the soil of Britain th^ fugitive is no longer likely to be stricken down; but in If "'ng the foundation stone of the new na- t .lity I say letus not begin the work by stri- kiig down what has cost England centuries to build up— what has been so long established in the hearts and affections of the people. Get the sympathies of the people with you, and then go on building the superstructure. Let it come to be understood that ihe rights of the people are one matter, and the rights of the governing oligarchy another, or that any oligarchy can control the country, strik- ing down thcindependence of the people and reducing them to a condition of serfdom, and the freedom and glory of the parent country no longer belong to us. After de- livering that speech in the House of Lords I wonder how his lordship could come down to Parliament and use this language : — "I congratulate you on the Legislative sanction which has been given by the Imper- ial Parliament to the Act of Union, under the provisions of which we are now assem- bled, and which has laid the foundation of a new nationality that I trust and cbelieve will ere long extend its bounds from the Atlantic to the Pacific ocean." _ He congratulates the people of the Domin- ion on building up this confederation ; but did he not remember the damaging record that stood against him on the other side of the ocean, when he made that declaration in the House of Lords to influence that august assemblage in supporting the legislature that undertook to give away the country, and to break down every barrier that had been placed in their way? Did be forget that he had gone across the ocean in the train of the delegates, to take his place as a peer of the realm, to assist in carrying Confederation, and there to state that the agitjtion in Nova Sootia was the work of a half dozen individ- uals Y If ho was so instructed by his friends, the Delegates at that time, then since the 18th of September he has been undeceived, and he should since have acknowledged that up to that time he had not known the true state of the case. We have heard a great deal, as I have said, abOut disloyalty, and without wishing to detain the House, I will merely turn attention to the mode in which this measure was carried. The country believes that the Confederation act was pau-. ed through the legislature by oorrnption and fraud— that His Excellency General Williams, when he was sent out here, came for the sole purpose of carrying the measure— prepared to resort to any means— and lent himself, through his government, to 'hat design, I believe that if certain festivii es «t Govern- ment House had never taken p see, we would not be engaged in this discuss n to»day. It reminds me of a dark day a old Ireland's history, when her free legislature was sold for English gold, Then bribery laid the ooun* try waste, and inflicted upon it the terrible woes that succeeding generations have in- herited, lu May's Constitutional history, I find this passage on that subject : " Lord Castlereagh estimated the cost of these expedients at a million and a half, and the price was forthcoming. The purchase of boroughs was no new scheme, having been proposed by Mr, Pitt himself, on the basis of his measure of Parliamentary reform in 178r), and now it was systemically carried out in Ireland. The patronn of boroughs received £7,500 for each seat, and eighty-four bo» roughs were disfranchistd. Lord Devonshire was paid £52,500 for seven seats. Lord Ely £45,000 for six. The total compensation amounted to £1,200,000. Peers wero further compensated for the loss of their privileges in the national council by profuse promises of English peerages, or promotion in the peerage of Ireland; commoners were concili- ated by new honors, and by the largesses of the British government. Places were given or promised, pensions multiplied, secret ser« vice money exhausted. In vain Lord Corn* wallis complained of the " political jobbing' ' and •• dirty business" in which he was '• in- volved beyond all bearing," and " longed to kick those whom his public duty obliged him to court." In vain he " despised and hated himself, while negotiating and jobbing with the most corrupt people under heaven." British gold was sent for And distributed, and, at length, in defiance of threats of arm- ed resistance, in spite of insidious promises of relief to Catholics, and corrupt defection among the supporters of the government, the cause was won." The luckless viceroy applied to himself the appropriate lines of Swift : So to effect his monarch's ends From hell a viceroy de7il ascenda ; This budget with corruption crammed The oonstUuUons of the damned. Which with unsparing hand ho Btrores Through courts and senates as ho goos ; And then at Meelzelub's black hall Complains hig budget is too email. How aptly this language can be applied to the gentlemen who carried on the work of corruption in this country;— they must, like Alexander, have wept because they had no ipaore worlds to conquer when they got weak- kneed politicians to Government House un- der the influence of the appliances which nvAntnally isdusptl JliPm *.". h=r.-' .-.—=- s!-- politioai rights of thio countrylo the Cana^ dian government. The people. I say, took this ground; snd in battling for their rights and privileges, sud asking foir free disons- •lon and debate, they have be ,n charged by 50 DEBATES AND PROOEEDINQS IMI m » portion of the preis and the eupporfera of ♦V!!!*'" ''ct'on with being Fenian ay mpal th.zera Md annexationiafB. All loanaavin that the fir«t article having such a tendency rTf.Ifh" » Confederate journal of thia city H auch aentimenta are advocated in thepteas n.V»?nfK"^-*^°'"\"l'°'' *•>« Confederate It aeema that a few years ago the Dublio mind of the United Stat.^ « U on tL ' u h„M*«°/fK\^'*^" '*»»^ '"°'ry could get 7ni w * a® Provincea. and had it not bwn would have gone long ago. Where were we Wben annexation cluba were formed throuph- out tanada, and when annexation flaga were thrown to the breeze by their prominen? men/ We were true to our alle^'iance warning the people of Canada that '£«> courae would bring them into disgrace. Let "not, then, be charged upon ua that, be- Mn-'tA" \tT *^? tendency of Confedera- f^ fhiri^-/'!? 1'^"^'°^ S'« of tlie Province to the United Statea. and because we have no deaire to become a part ef that country, the Anti-Contederate party, or the Government. SIih^?°" w^".'"*'? "' on theae benches have disloyal tendenciea. That alander haa gone far enough; the men who originated it do not dare to repeat it in open day, where they can be confronted ; but in the back eluma Z ^Au^ a portion of the press that is juatly held beneath contempt haa been buay in the circulation of the blander. When they pour out the viala of ,eir wrath let them remem. ber that their shafta do rot touch ua, beoauae we will carry forward the atruggle in which we are engaged in rtrict obedience to the ilntiah Constitution, and with no dialoyal aentiment esoaping our lipa. With them thewiah la father to the thought;" it ia beoauae they deaire annexation that they love Confederation and the principles which It embodies rather than monarchical prinoi- plea. When they charge disloyal aentimentg on our people they had better see where their own pnnoiplea are leading them. Mr. Darbv in hia report on the fisheriea, saya :— • " ^Ji^.^rovinces have long deaired expan- sion. Their territory contracts aa it runs eaaterly, and preaents in a northern latitude a narrow front on the Atlantic. New Ene- land hea between Canada and the sea A few yeara since, the Halifax Morning Journal an influential paper of Nova Scotia, presented a plan for annexation, from which we make lith^i f''°^ extracts, viz. : «in the much wished-for event of a consolidation of the Coloniea, the possession of Maine is of vast importance; more, perhaps, than we have been wont to imagine. A glance at the map will ahow, that ai present she destroys the aymmetry of the proposed confederation.— t5he stands like a wedge driven up to the butt :'!?.* foreign country, and it gives rise to the idea that but a few more blows are needed to effect a complete separation of Canada and New Brunswick. Nor ia it symmetry aloue which demands the annexation of Maine- there are other reasons of far greater im- iffi-7^°° 'j"^',..'^'^ """"'li. if poasible, be effected, and which we propose to aet plainly forth in thia article.' *"««"> " The Nova Sootia plan did not take-it was premature.^ It la cited here merely to ahow the aapirationa of the Coloniea. an7 aa a nre ceden for thia diaousaion. for it makea an ?«» '""k* ^'°''"««J mewure. We can af- ford to be more generoua and give to the Proviuoial plan a ahape more oomprehenaive r"?ghta'o'f alL """*• ""'" conaiateKuh 'the wvS«k?«''*V'*"^-* Confederate Journal, whicb now braga of ts loyalty, foreahadftw. |ng the ground-work of a Scheme by whi'h DniS'^f'f ''"V'' ^« ^"''«d over to he United Statea, and yet we are the dialoyal men. Our accuaera are very loyal men but tS^ofiltv^'wh^ ^''* P°"'^'^ ^'"°°^ tneir loyalty. What are we to think *hen we have annexation aentimenls proclaimed by the press of Halifax, and When a porUon of the people with whom it was the inten on to confederate us have petitioned for admra" aion othe American Union ? Ia thS the people with whom we are to join in order to ofllV l'"" "^^'onality. fa a union form- ed with auch a country likely to be a aoHd A«n»^.!!'°5°^°i°"^ ""''" *•»« B"»8h Crown? Another idea thrown out waa that unleaa we wen into the union the British goverZent would C88 us off. Why should they doT? Nova Sootia came forward and put her MiH- clrl^t * '"""'^ '**'? «f organization, whin Mils andThp'i^"""*"^ *^°"' her Militia fnil'.^ ■'^ her government was attacked Tio ?f T^'"? * ^J"*'> g"nt. Great Britaia, L^ I^'*• i"'"" ^^"^ «« «'>ould do our duty ?h«i!i",'''"'-n"°^*'"l<^f Confederation and l^t r*'?!" y'}} ?*** *•»«'■" *i8hea bv provid- ing for their defence in every reasonable way tT^J'liV'* P'0^'<*>ng le' it be underatood ir! Jfi)"'^® ?5 ^"2' ?" n»"onal Statea.-we ?i,fp*u^®P°V>°"ft^«8on to the father; an/««nl ' w°l' *•"' 'on enjoying security and peace. We have nothing to defend our- selves against;-if a war should break out to-morrow between Great Britain and another power, we vfould not be consulted, but we brunt of It We would do ao willingly in aubordination to the Crown and Imperial government, because we deaire to uphold the glory of the Britiah flag, but while doing ao we deny the right of a legislature, elected for no such purpoae, to aweep away our oon- atitution and to place ua under the domina- tion of a cpvernment removed beyond our control. If time permitted I might refer to the geographical poaition of these Provinces. Wehavo territory enough for thirty atatee. we have vast traeta of wilderness country aire ching to the Pacific and back to the Rocky Mountains, in which there is not a man to build a fort or man a gun. We have four mi lona of people acattered over half a continent, and with auch a country— with aoaroely an inhabitant to a square luilo-we are aaked to believe that we are in a poaition to found a new nationality. The idea ia truly absurd, and can lead to but one reeult. Wova Bootia will be no party to ao monstrous a proposition. Nova Scotia asks, lovallv moat obnoxious act upon the followine among Other grounds: I'^wiug, lat. BeoauEB the constitution of Nova Sootift being a charter granted to thia coun- OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 51 try by tbe British GoTernmrat, giving the pepple the right of telf government— the right of regulkting their own trade and commerce— the unreetricted right of ditpoa- iog of their own revennes, and the pover of general legislation under such conctitaion— cannot be materially altered or changed without the sanction of the people. 2nd. Because the people of Nova Scotia have been c: parties to the alteration of the coDititution, but on the contrary have nsed every available means to prevent the passing of the "British North America Act," and by petition to the Legislature, and by loyal ad< dresses to the Queen, and by petitions to the Imperial Parliament of England, have pro- tested against the Confederation ofthiaI?ro- vince with Canada. 3rd. Because a majority of the Legislature of Nova Scotia who usurped the power of legislating upon Confederation were elected and held their seats under the coDstitution they attempted to destroy, and by fraud and deception misled the Government of England by declaring that they represented the views and wishes of the people of Nova Scotia. 4th. Because the "British North America Act" deprives us of constitutional rights and privileges enjoyed by Nova Scetia for a cen- tury—which Act was formed in contemptuous defiance of such rights and privileges. 5tb. Because a willing submission to the provisions of that enactment will stamp the people of Nova Scotia as servile dependants upon Canadian charity. 6th. Because it has despoiled us of our re- venues-deprived us of the rigL", of regulat* ing our tariff, and placed the power of tax* ing the industry and resources of this coun- try in a Canadian Government, over which we can t^ noise no control. 7th. Because the Journal of this Legisla- ture show that Canada has sought this Con- federation not because she desired to perpe- tuate British institutions upon this continent —not by reason of her love for the old flag and her loyal devotion to the British crown, but because of the shameful and disgraceful fuede and faction fights between Upper and Lower Canada, which had rendered constitu- tional government in that country a sham and delusion— which had made her public men contemptible in the eyes of the world,— and having brought their country to this humiliating and degraded position, they sought to drag in the free, prosperous and happy Provinces of Nova Scotia and New Brunswick under Confederation as "make- weights," in order, if possible, to relieve themselves of the disadvantages under whiok they labored. 8th. Because the Union of the Maritime Provinces with Canada, under such oiroum- stanocB, will lead to the most deplorable re- sults; and, if not repealed will, sooner or later, eventute in disaster to the whole. 9th. Because the Government of the so- called Dominion has already entered upon a most extravagant system of einenrJiture, not warranted by the revenues or the dominion, and will result in taxing still further the rate- payer(|.of this country. 10th. Because the acquisition of new terri- tory by the Dominion of Oana^ ip a lomoe of weakness to the so-oalled Gonfederatioo, and may result in involving this Province in bankruptcy and ruin. nth. Because this country cannot adopt the absurd idea embodi»a in the British North America Act, by which British America, em- bracing half a continent with a sparse popu- lation, is to be governed and controlled by a government at Ottawa— the provinces of Ontario and Quebec being the oontroling powers. 12th. Because the people of Nova Scotia cannot recognize the necessity of assuming liabilities for the defence of British Columbia, or of placing themselves in a position to be called upon at any time t. p defend a country thousands of miles away. 13th. Because the alleged fact that the Legislature of British Columbia has petition- ed to be received into the United States of America is calculated to weaken any union of the whole of British America, and taken in connection with the fact that a portion of the people of Canada have heretofoie exhibit- ed by disloyal and treasonable manifestations their repugnance to British monarchial in* stitntions, and their preference for those of the United States, leads the people of Nova Scotia to repudiate any connection with Provinces disaffected towards the British Crown. 14th. Beoause^the imposition of a stamp act and the increase in the tariff are most tyrana nioal and oppressive, calculated to cramp v:he expansion of trade, to retard the prospe> rity of the country, and to exact money from our people for the benefit .of Canada, and without in any way benefitting the people of Nova Scotia. 15th. Because the allowance of 80 cents per head, and the annual subsidy granted from the Dominion Government, is no com- pensation for the large sums taken from us by Canada, and will be wholly inadequate to meet the increasing wa Us of this country. 16th. Because above all Nova Scotia repa> diates this Dominion, and asks for repeal be- cause her people were not consulted upon the measure— while the people of New Brunswick and the other Maritime . Provinces have been allowed to determine for themselves whether or not they would be confederated with Ca- nada. For these reasons this Legislature and this Government ask the British Government for a Repeal of the British North America Act so far as it relates to Nova Scotia. I hope that when our loyal address is presented to Her Majesty it will have the desired effect, and that our delegates will bring bask to us the restoration of our rights and privileges. When we look at the United States, and oono eider the internecine war, the effects of which are still preying on the vitality of the coun- try—when we see the disaffection prevailing in Canada, and find the public records charged with that which shakes our confi> denoe in her statesmen, is it any wonder that we turn from WMhingtoQ to London — to London, the metropolis of the world— Lon- don, with its abbeys containing the duet of men whose fame is handed down to porjterity 7 There is the Empire to which we wirh to be- long; we do not desire » union witht the back 52 Iff I K'^f''^^'*?'^'' '^"* *""'<"» With the Em people leaa them to seek nothinc that wnnl,l delegates will go to EneUnd »n.i i.„ .^ time let uspoaafaHour !oZ inVulT'^'j ll°Ztrt^i' '1''^ ''^"'^ whTch^tK people are tauing throughout the country at Ithn meetings which are being held, and I did no? mn.,f iT u °® "' *°^ 'ion- member for Yar- S oou'nfv l^^«f«?'ed the petition from hi« ^Ksil ^y "" thi8 6ubjcct. The sentimenta Sto .h«VT'"e "P *<)«« every day rem ditto the fee, rigs of the people-they .how ifooV ,°„ i''"""'" "*: ^^'^^'^^ *'e well ^under^ stood and appreciated amoD°- ub H»5 «n^ defv anv ,v ^* ""^ '° '^*^ bitter end. we maj & 2^ ^"'"^' *° <=0''''«e ua into comnliance mauer'°rd° w'hii^"^''^ '•" ^"''^'^n ^s a^H,^ ' '^— " - - S !^ vJur enemies may ply al! thp arVa nf f.i.-, Jtrnd'uoor.i'^''^^^^''^'^^^^^^^^ stand upon »ho eentimeut that to Nova acot.ans belongs Nova Sootla. Our rS ngats, and while carryinji the netitinn. «p ««- .r ? »S°*- Such men as D'Arcv Mc 2f5f 'y ♦»''* "lid threaten about the R^iUaa and the course that will be pursued to coerce "heir m?utL^ *.° '\''' I*'** >* does not He fa iQBir mouths to teach us lovqltv tn thli Crown, until they take back thethreats and libels which they have hurl?d rV nnt A " and.Constitutio^.TctfidUShen ,1r^^^ Parfiament'n'A^' ^'^ ^° *hVwiXi of 'the paioies of the Queen, wo have met this j?rp*f 2avf "^°*'°"y and constituUonally.^We ner wAT' '" ^'^'^ '/ '» »°y otheJ man .^ff; K . ^*'® ''^ wish for the storm or tem- pest but we are asking for our rights out of which w_e have been wronged.^.nd ?hB DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS tTllouJe' "•°^""°- "ow »Pon the table of fhri"^".? '( »^' «L"lu LT'intiS hat Mr. Blanchard would move them regu* (ffiaSilnTrV-l^JVe^gi'/en^'lL*''^^^^^ °"»rof Mr. Blan'hard's^sSohV' """" The debate was adjourned; ' The House then adjourned. „. „ Tuesday. Feb. lltb. The House met at three o'clock. M«In'n«' «'fT P^'ieotcd • petition from N. Hiram Ruil"!f°*i."' *£""•' *'>« return of tta?'u'n"t°^s'.U^,Vn:Ji°'^ - ''id on DeonTn ,7f p.n.V. "''^° wronged, and the &L L^^?'^?.?*y " well understand mat the peocle of this /i^ ««♦,« ,i ^ •_. , With thi we obiervatioDB, sir, I beg leave to DBBATfi «X,^J2.¥«««»'«A1. BE. HON ME. FLTNN'S SPEECH. Hon. E. P. Flthn then said :— In ri«inj^ in liiXi' ^r''. '\ the'molatron" wLh have been introduced so ably by the Hon Attorney General. I feel that I can add no« thing new to a sut>ject which has already oo trTlnS^TJh^"^!''^ *l'«''«°'^in K^^^^^ dphl*. I • "?. l^*' ''*» b«en so thoroughly House ''iL fhi '^' »»P"ts on the floors of^h? iicuse.in the preeg, and at every hustinss m the Province. I have not the vanity fo SuSn^wi?? ^"'"*"' '^^* I can inr;t''t : ?t w th thit f°y "°'«'*y' o"^ deal with u witn that eloquence exhibitad bv thom patriotic men who have so nobly ad vocated V 1 r2,uiuL.''tn*?^ ^r ^^- '^^^ '~^ eviis resulting to this Province from a union Nnwh^r*'^* "°'^«'' *^« t"""* of the Brit sh North Aramca Act. and the great injuit oe nnm-'/^" people by forcing them into a ' Pol»t'o»l connection, never sou|htfor or de- sired by them have been so clearly illustra. ted during the recent session of tb" Domin' ^in^'tifipT •"'• *^** ^ '^'""^ I woul be hTrd. ly justified m occupying the time of this infaithfu? L^'Vk'' f^'^Jf"*- ^"' I would be untaithtul to the trust reposed in me and i'io W« h*"^' '\' obligations I oweTo those Tv eleJtil/m«°f''^ '"^ f'^ ^^''" confidence oy electing me to a seat in th s House nor would 1 be true to the convictions of my'own mind, and the feelings which anim»t"me. ff I did not avail myself of this opportunity of fpTl'"^ ?y ^^°«* '^^'"^^ "d emphau" pro- nnlrf*""' ,?"" "'if^^ness of the ATof Union, as well as against the oppressive and unconstitutional method by which it t*« adopted. Notwithitanding^wha miy be hnM \l i^' »'^'°'=*'«« to the conffiy, I hold that a question of such vital mo- ment, and eflfeoting so complete and rK oal changes in the institutions of this country should never have been sanctioned by the Imperial Parliament, without its having had the most conclusive evWence that an unmistikably authentic expreSn of the popular will in its f*vnr 1 3 ,!"°- puoe, when upon former opnitle in thest&te. The Hous^ of Lords is not morally competent to diseolve itielf, nor to abdicate, if it would, its portion of the legislature of the kingdom. By as .strong, or a ttrooger reason, the House of Commons cannot re- nounce its share of authority. The engage* ment and pact qf society which generally goes by the name of constitution, forbids such innovation and such surrender. The conttitaent parts of a etitj must hold their public faith with each other, and with all those who derive a serious interest under their engagement, as much as the whole 3tate is bound to keep its faith with separate com- munities. Otherwise competence and power would be entirely confounded, and no Uw left but the will of a prevailing force." " The collective body of the people," says Bolingbroke, " delegate but do not give up; truEt, but do not alienate their right and power There is something which a parlia« ment cannot do; a parliament cannot annul the constitution. The legistature is a su* preme, but not an arbitrary power." "The power of Kings, Ljrds, and Com- mons," says Junius, "is not an arbitrary power. They are the trustees, not the own* ers of the estate. The fee simple is in us; they cannot alienate, they cannot waste. When we say the legislature is supreme, vye mean that it is the highest power known to the constitution, that it is the higheat in com- parison with the other subordinate powers established by the laws. In thin sense the word supreme is relative, not aosoluto. The powei of tho legislature is limited, not only by the general rules of natural justice and the welfare of the community, but by tho forms and principles of our particular con- stitution." The principles laid down in these extracts seem to be so perfectly in accordance with the British constitution and the dictates of common sense, that I unhesitatingly adopt them as conclusive. Even if the Union were calculated to confer on Nova Scotia all tho bcseats so nippantly predicted by its ad< vocatei and promoters in the last House, they were nevertheless bound to submit the mea* sure to the people for their approval. Had they done lo at the proper time, as they 54 I •i I Bhoold bare done, liko honest men and faith - sH fhr''n;'"°f *'"'>'•'"* «PO»ed in them, with fh« ^ *'?* excitement in oonneotion S Tha^"""u" *°'^''* •»»'« been lyoil uiHfSfi!f ••''•.Uo'on. haTfi attempted to So faJ^rm*'.^ exceedingly amall mSjor "es' Railiiv ifri i!™"""' of the Int'roolonial offe"A'm^^i*a-STemb?r'.^''«^ to Suf-'H« Ijey di§! w'i^e^actu'y S'L^SiS Tt"fXsVf^?L'',"'°,^;^*'''^^«"^ tty%'u5M rm^Tirt"an'i;H\^'"" exercise of power dpnTi«:i*K*° arbitrary g*te'?a^;ran"p^;,i ?i?nra"„|^^??H^^^^^^^^ ?aXt„°' "*°""e S 'us't^e^ntLj; flSanov.°n"t'?K°'' their projects or thei Tro" eavethp'^tK ''^ Po^tioal prerogative which of ?hdrcoant''rvTf''-*°,P"'''i'^ ^"^ bar7ere„ them a the aame^ timTte"!'"""' • '""^^d condemninff "union f^rni/'"' P"!L'*S« "^ fpait.1 ..>j • r^- ""'O" roroed upon them hv smMm us ai thoiiv-J! ^'.""^ 'hey now demand of con.tit ,fe"fP""'"***''*"'' " »' we uee every fh^^ V '°°*' ™"°8 '«» our power to rtlpasn !5f^u'L°.«'.'^V°J'^'"Ao« and ..ppT.«slon o?r nor»inn«Tf!;^fi^°il'V'"" ^*8 neither a legal clusiveTv ,h/»^°!u I* 5" °»w been mostco*- ffi measure un^"**. *^' '""'P*'"" "' measure up to the present moment the DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS oTerwheJming majority of the peoDle hav* querable repugnance to it. They clearly sm^ would h« i"""."' ^^^ members, their 5J would be powerlefs to affect anything h, SveunT-''.'''''^y.''''"^°io"beyTfoald give up their dearett r ehtg and orivileffpi^' wret'chTd"""'".^'"" "d their "lYelyifoT; Bh?D i'„^ ?°'''°"'5 '° * Canadian iartnet- co^posed of t?n <^lP«'»« want,, of «ova acotia. W hiNt such are the feelinea nf Sat t'rTJund t»>«/-yince. i't i/ impo^ible' an lot "*' *"'^.«ol>d union, not depending oV Tnterelt/JJ^Hr*"^'*'"! °P'^'» 'be mutual ieoDle CO,",'! '^^ """*''*' afTections of the P«r^„;- 1 5* permanently established, have aKlf'f* "^"t'J'y. both Provinces n!^^ *ajanced from infaiioy to manhood under the aegis of the British Crown We everv rf^nnrtlP^S to entertain and act upoo llnfvdJ^^''^^^'' proposition for free and un- Ll/r •"* i'°"™"°'»l intercourse, bat ever ini°J^' *?** ^'^^''f"! «f our polit cal rightS Md privileges By a free intercourse of tride have nT,n?''i "°.'°u°' ^"^^ P'O^^C^* ™^gbt nave prospered, without rivalry or jealouly eets Sr P»r°°«' ^'^^ '»"'°« united in"er- llvl„? ,u n^^ protection of our common land Tnit.^'°7?."^ Government of Eng- deSir5ni°S-°V^' ^''^P'* 0' *bi8 Province ?i!f , ■ ^.-P"'.'*'*"' oonjiection with Canada they ns tinotively shrinls from it. They n! tural y dreaded a political connection wUh a travaS„?« ''^'•?? '^'^ '''^'^^ '^ wasfefu ex^ anrl ,?«S ""V^i P"' ^^ ber public men. and. under a high tariff, annual deficits in SoL,frr»Hi ''H"' *^«y "' their own ^fr^i^' '"'*' '^^ ♦»"ff. making rapid strides :n comuiercial and political activity and having an annually increasing surplus luowlnr'?"'- *"" "'^'^^"g 'be mfst libTral *" n7."l", ^''^■°''^ ^"'o"« wants and require- ments, and enjoyin.. a degree of prosperity It la^PJ'tl ^y f."y ?f «■« sister CoCi^ tarv fn ,mI n ""^ *H^ '**' Pinanpial Secre year, „p I J"*"",:, '5'* ""''o°' t"^** '° ten years we had trebled our revenue without increased t«ation-that at the end of every year since 1862, there was a large increase over the income of the preceding^ year; and of 186fi Tni°«"?fi "'^°!?^ °^ ^SS^ ^i*b that n«Q ,, • ^FA^.'^ bad a revenue of $671.- £,«?> 'm, 1^^°' ^1.326.198 ; from these fagures, twill be perceived that in ten years we had almost trebled our revenue without abiding to our tariff. Had this state of com- mercial activity continued increasing for the next decade, and we have every reason to £«'■"« tbat it would, this Province would have presented a degree of prosperity truly gratifyu -• to every Nova Scotian. But, ,ir^ S hi?. n'A^K^ ""J"'' ^°*°°> 'bile it lasts forbids U8 to hope for prosperity and hapnl- ness. We behold in the future nothing but r.S fu^i'-'l^i'"".' "« ''"'«S «f the House for G few moments to one or two Btatemen 8 that have been made by the hon member for Richmond. I must say in aH S:,V^^\^°\'^''^^"' thJt he^'hls ac- ?rpr f o''?"'^ as I expected he would-with ^niii/"'^ respectability. He has not in at mvll? "J/h'"°r' **i."'''°'» °' ''"d hits atrajfelf. He has brought forward his tr- guments and with his manner and temper I result of /hi^"'''^*^ ? connection with the result of the recent elections. He said that piL"' ^°/^^*''^"' notwithstanding it was expected to become the Liverpool ot' the New Sn^tf"''"^' ^"'^ "J"°'^ five members against ' Un on. Now, as I am instructed, the city of Halifax proper gave a considerable vote in favor of Union. If that bo so. then let it never be said again that there is not a maio- rity of the respectability, weight and influ. on;;e of the city of Halifai in favor of Con- tederation. If the centre of influence, intelli- gence and wealth has given such a responfie. then let not the assertion be repeated that al the merchants and bankers ef ifal'fax are ob- posed to the Union of British America Before going any further I will ask the government to allow me to add a clause to the amendmrnt which has been Jaid on the table. Now, it is not too much to say. and I would be very sorry to state, that the Attor- ney General does not possess a larsn amnunf 01 ifgal ability, and considerable knowledcn of th-} constitutional law of this country I am Borry that I am obliged to attach to him the paternity of a string of resolutions such »8 1 do not hesitate to aay were nevor h«A,™ tC"Th/^ '*.'"° o'"y CoIonYariS™ tare. They contain ntatpoents of constitn tional law ntterly at variance with .ko I.- tory of Great Britain durin/thj W,l t'o hundred years, and if, before I am doni, l h. not convict him and t'bo government which ,t\tP.i'n° '^" ."""'« '^y'ho authorlTy of »tite«nt;n as much superior to Lim aa it i. possible to be, of having brought forJard a m of reiolutions opposed toto cVle Jo ibl ■ Then rsay" hat'°l"ih'r "' '^.''^' ^*''*!n ■ S ""Tr^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ffiSluSnl" »^h«o?LJri-.^siS a^^i^^e^-i,?ua jS of the Throne just as they are now. I hone TiedVv tL^rL'Vt''' '^'^, '»'» bo accomja-* niefi by the resolutions which I havp hoAn f'^^'Sf.^*" prepare hastily in the condiMon n which I have been for some days past as of thfi'tt"'"" of theopinion of the mCodty of th 8 House, small though it may b? ^ in tne faret resolution we are told "thittho KnT °f ♦^^I'?gi'"»tiTe Assembly of \hl i'rovince, elected in 1863, simrlv to IPffi«i«tf Sf ')' ^"^f"''*' ConstitSVhad 'nl^',\ f thority to make, or consent to, any material change of such constitution, without hS fir submitted the same to the peop e ar hf polls." I undertake to say that this i. Iht firtt time outside of Nova Scotia n the ht ory of any legislative or deliberative agsem a L'!.?^" 'K' ^"''.'^ constitution, 7hat such a doctrine of conititutional law has ever been hp i»7°- ^^"t ^"«''«'°" »w disoulsed 1° the last session o( this legislature. Authority ArchtbiM"'^'.^" ^'■°"eht down by Mr' Archibald controverting the statement in the most conclusive manner, and not a gfnlln |f""f»n belonging to the late oppoSn rtfntii^ *° '"PP°" ^^'^ position he took bj a iingle precedent, or even by a dictum nf any man who is looked upon as a great «"* |l>°"ty- .Even at the risk of repeatfng what I said last winter, I will remark on whri he meaning of an appeal to the peoSe In the adjoining Republic there is a machinery cfrrTed out*" J?!"^^ *? '^'- '^^"^'^ °^° "^ carriea out. If a question is submitted to *°y egiilature, whether State or General se°nt o^thi'^r^ V "'°^S'"y ♦« obtain the as- tral?/ **"*'• People-and remember the oonn- lL^^?°H."*^' "" " *° ^^mi^ea democrS- what 18 the course pursued ? They send to thn ^t?A i^^ l^S'slature meets, and they are e" pected to vote aye or no. The convention mce^s -It IS not called upon to express an opS S^*?^-f''l' '"Wect except the one^Sub ^ll^i-'' 'u ^"PP°«« **>« convention deoido that this change in the constitution should be carried out, what then. Does the leS ture take that as the opinion of the peS^ ?l°'i^!y,«l°^' '} «e*in to .the polls, and have ■f i-.u2JUi=.r voico upon it. Everv man io fisTot* "^KalKh*' on whichTe Sord nisvote. finally this vote s counted anrl Havfri^vS- '« Jh«rebyTsceaine"d' ' uave wo.»ny 8uoh machinery as that? Did OP THE H0U3E OF ASSEMBLY. 5T ihybo4y ever hMr of tnoh »n ftrrkogement ander the Britiih Conatitation ? When the hon. Attorney OenertI .n oonvince the Go' TernmeDt and ParIiaL.
,-.nst, inch by inch, having been carried, the man who would venture to appeal to the people in reference to a question which had been settled by Par- liament, was an enemy to his country. He accepted the aitaation— he acknowledged that the only constitutional mode of proceeding waa through the Parliament of the country. Sir Robert Peel, on the subject of Catho'.io Emancipation, has said, and I am now read- ing from his speeches : " He had no notion of the prejudices of the people overruling the deliberations of the Legislature. The Parliament was better able to form » just opinion upon quettions of this nature than the uninformed, and whatever might be the opposition which Parliament might experience, it was still bound to set an example of justice and wisdom; that being done, he was sure the people would soon coincide in their decision." Further on he says : " With respect to the general question, he bad on so many occasions stated his deliberate opinion upon it, that he felt it scarcely ne- cessary to do more than refer to what he had repeatedly stated, and to declare his firm ad« herence thereto. He considered it an impor- tant question in point of policy (dismissing the quettions of justice and good faith) as it aifeoted the general constitution of the conn- try, and with reference to its bearing on the prosperity of the Empire. With respect to the first, he must say he thought the removal of all civil disabilities, and the laying down of the principle that there should be no dis- tinction in respect to religinni opinions» and no barrier between a Professor of the Roman Catholic faith and that of the Protestant Eb* tablished Chuch, was a material change in the tonstitution qf the ro'untry If theoooBtitation were ^o be considered the 8 King, Lords and Commons, it would be rob* verting that constitution t3 admit Catholioa to the privileges they sought; it wouU be an important change in the state of the constltaa tion as established at the Revolution." I give this to show that Sir Robert Peel looked upon Catholic Emancipation as a most important and material change in the consti- tution of Great Britain. Ue goes on to say : " I know that it has been said that in 1830 there had not been suQioient warning. No, forsooth, we ought to h^ve aroused the coun- try by the cry of ' No Popery." Never, air, never, under any circumstanoes. The Par- liament, and the Parliament alone, will I ever acknowledge to be the Jit judge qf thi$ imporiant question. The people at large may express their feelings and opinions, and they should always be received with defer* euce; but, sir, we are not bound to conform to those opinions, or to refer to their deci'ion questions affecting the general interests of the country, or which it is the peculiar province of the Parliament to decide." Catholic Emancipation was carried to the glory of the British people, and has over since remained one of the principles of the British constitution. What did dir Robert Peel say when it was passed? The Legislature has fixed it upon this ooun' try, it has become part of the conttitution un- der which I and every gentleman who is seat* ed here lives, and we are bound to submit. Are we then to be told by the Attorney Gen- eral and Government of Nova Scoria that our Parliament has no power to affect any. change in the constitution. Further on Sir Robert Peel layB:— " As to the appeal to the country, let him ask hon. members to consider whether it would be wise to set such a precedent as to declare tbeir own incompetency to legislate upon any question which the Ctewn may think proper to submit to their considera- tion 7 Would they so far stultify themselves as to begin to consider what questions they were competent to debate ? Supposing they were to make such an appeal to the co ^ntry, how many questions do they think woulu /ise thereafter ,in which it would be said to them: — • There is a precedent set you by the Parlia- ment of 1829 which dissolved itself, because it felt itself incompetent to act, and you follow its example?' I deny, sir, the necessity fur making sucb a precedent. No ; we will not stultify ourselves so much as to say that we are not supreme as to every measure (^' legit lation which may come btforeus." The gentlemen opposite should go and sit at the feet of British statesmen and learn the true principles of English constitutional law, before they come here and make the declara* tion which they do. I do not mean to say that the Attorney General is not as capable as myself of explaining ooustitutional latr, but I ask them in all seriousness before they ask this House to forget that they are British subjects— to swallow what I feel confident future time — before they make themselves the laughing stock of British America, I ask them to pause. I non come to the speech of the same great statesman on another impor- tant question. I will aek the House to recall 68 DEBATES, AND PROCEEDUIOa M the hii'ory of the Corn Ltwi of Gre«t Brit- ain. I aball not go info a lenmhy hirtory of thiiiqu»ition, but ftverybody known that Sir Robert Peel had opposed the abolition of the Corn Lawi for a very considerable period. He ?J^ ^^. '^' w.^" """ '®*'^«'" »n'l premier of tbe British Miniatry;»ad after a lonfi di«- cmnon on the eubjeot he thontrht it neccs- ■ary to change hie opinion. Who dofs not know that when the measure was passed he w*a attacked in a style whioh is not often heard in any lepislative body. He w»^ ex- posed to a mercilesa storm of vitaperation, and when nothing seemed to avrM hio ene- mies called upon him to dissolve the House and appeal to the people. Then Sir Robert Feel laid down the doctrine Ihat whilst he oonld carry on the -flfairs of the country no- body had a right to dissolve the House. He ■aid: But my honorable friend says he did not object to It aa ImpediDR theforma'ion of a firntectlon govern- m«nt, but ai prevenliDg a dissolutloD; and my nonoDble friend and others hava blamed mo for not advUlnK a diBsolutlon of Parliament. In my opinit n, It would have been utterly lnoon»Ulent with the duiy Pf a Minlsttr to adyise a dissolution of Parliament un- der the particular ciroumitances in which this ques- tion of the Oorn Law was plaR>:d. Why ihodld It be so utterly impossible for this Parliament to deal with the present proposition J Afcar the olection in 1841, this PArliamtnt pafsed the existing Corn Law, whi-b diminished protection: Ibis Parliament passed the tariirdeslrojing.altoifttherihe system of prohibition with respect to food; this Parliamcntj passed the Canada Cora Bill; why should it e;£ceed the (unctions of this PAriiament to enfertttin thepresent proposition ? But upon much higher ground I would not consent to a diisolution. That Indeed, I think, would haVo been a " dang'^rius pric,?dont",fcr a Minister to Rilmit that theextsiloirLegisldturewasiro'^^mretent to the enter- tainment of any quettioni Uiat ia a ptecedent which I would not estadiUh. Whatever may have been tfao oircnmstances that may ha^^ taken pUoe at an clec- "0°; I never would sanction the view that any House of Commons is Incompettnt to entf rtala a measure that is necessary fjr the well being of the community. If yon were to admit that doctrine, you would shake the foundations on whioh many cf the best laws are placed. Why. that doctrine was propounded at tho time or the union between Kogland and Ireland, as It had been previously at the time of the union between Kugland and Scotland. It was maintainod in Ire ' land very vehmently, but it was not maintained in this oonutry by Mr. Fox. It wss difihlly adverted to by Mr. BheiidDn at the time when the message with regard to the union was delivered. Parliament had been elected without the si ghtest reaion to believe it wouli resolve that Its fuuctloas were to be fused and mixed with those cf another Legiilature. namsly, the Irish Parliament; and Mr, Sheridar B'ightly hinted it as an objection to the competency of Parlinment. Mr. Pitt met that objection at the outset in the following manner. Mr. Pitt said :— '• The first objection is what I heard alluded to by the honorable t'entlsman op- poslte to ms. when His Mafesty's message was brought down, nsmely. that the Parllnment of Ireland is in- competent to entertain and discuss the question, cr rather, to act upon the measure proposed without hav- ing previously obtained the consent of the peopJe cf Irelsjjd. their constituents. Xhia puint. sir, ii of so much importance that I thick I ought net to suffer the opportUBlty to pass without ir u^trating more mlly what I mean. If this prinsipal of the -ucuupetency of Parliament to tho decision of the ucofure be -mU mitted, or it it be contended that Pariiaraent has no legitimate authority to discuss and decide upon it you will bs driven to the necessity of recignlzln? a principle the most d»ngeroul that ever wu s adopted in aujr eivj!!at:d stitc, i ncau the piiuciplti that Parlia- ment cannot adopt any measure, new in its nature and of great importance, without uppealing to tlie constituent and delegating authority for direction. If that doctrine be true, loolf to what an extent it will carry yon. If rneh an argument could be set up and railnlaloed, you acied without ary legltimite author itr When ycu created the represenlation of the l/Incipality o( Wales or of either of (ha counties pala- tine of Knglanl. Kvery lavr that PAillament ever nwae, without Ihatapp-al. either Hi tolls own frumo and constitution, as to the quiMflcAtlon of the electors .'r the elected, nt (o toe great an, that it wouldv not hate been surpriiing if the Corn Laws had remained many years longer a motive of continual agitation. Sir Robert Peil, roknowlRdsin.? the face of the opinions in favour of the abolition of thMB corn Uw«, came forward and moved in the matter. Who has ever been found in the British House of Commons to get up and de- clare that Hir Robert Peel did not strictly ad- here t.-^ tlie priuciples of iho BriiiBheonstitu* tiouinthe course he pursued. Ho carried triumphantly through the House of Com- mons this important measure, which has ever since remained untouchel. If Sir Robert Peel could do that, was not this Legislature in a poBition to carry the measure safamitted to it. Sir Robert Peul has emphatically told us that Catholic Emancipation was an altera- tion in the constitution. Before the passsge of that meaturt, no man could oooupy any position in the Govevi;mcnt of Great iSritain trnless he was a Protestant and took the oath of supremacy; that was as much a part of the British constitution as the House of Lords Itself. To the honor of Nova Sootia be it said, that some time before Great Britiin broke down that principle, this Parliament came forward and allowed Ciitholios to sit in the Legislature. What more, si;'? What did the BritisU Government do in 1S20? The Island of Cape Breton possessed a separate consti- tution; it had a Governor and a Gov- ernment of its own independent of the Province of Nova Scotia. The House of Commons came in and by a single Act, containing perhaps not a dozen lines amal- gamated the island with Nova Scotia. The island was given only two tnembers in a Le- giRlature of 40 men. Who, then, ever heard of the people of Capo Breton bein^ granted an appeal? Whoever heard that this law was not binding upon the people of the Isn land. They resortfed io every constitutional means to repeal it. It may be added that Gape Breton had no Parliament of its own, and without being coubulted in any measure it was annexed to *..e adjoining Province. Representing as I do one of the most flourish* ing counties of the Island, I undertake to say that you will not find a man from one end of Cape Breton to the other, who would now ask for a repeal of the Union. There were some Repealers for a few years, but now they areas scarce as I thirlr Repealers of the larger Union will be in this Province twenty years hence. I feel that I '^m speaking hero not simply in the name uf Cumberland and Inverness, Iv.it in thjit ciY ihvt f^rr'^t Cf>T^frH±>*'jtt'^ ^'.^''tv i^^ Nova Scotia, and 1 regret it that they are so inadequately represented here. What was the original constitution of this country ? '"here were forty gentlemen sitting here then. One of the fundamental principles was a re- pretentation of forty men, and thoM leleotad for the irost part from particular localitiea. A few townships, such as Falmouth, absorb- ed a large portion of the representation in the Assembly. The Legislature stepped in and handed a portion of that repreaeutation o Cape Brit m. Was it then urged that the township of Falmouth, and other places af- fected, should be consulted — that there should be an appeal to the people before the repre- sentation was interfered with ? The con»ti- tution of the country was then invaded in a high-hauded manner, if we are to believe the doctrines of the hon. gentleman, by the Le- gislature of that day. But what more? At the close of the Parliament in 18S&. a bill wca brought in altering the representation of this country. That measure was pasaed through this Legislature, aiibough it wak a material change in the constitution, without a word being said about an appeal to the people. Tbis measure was strongly opposed, but did its opponents tay that the measure was unconstitutional when they came back hero 7 No one was ever heard to declare that law was uncoDttitutional, and attempt to repeal it. We sat here from 1839 to 1863, and at the oloso of our legislative career what did we do? I had then the honour of fullowin^ the leadership of Mr. Howe, ard assisting him in forwarding measures whijh I believed were for the best interests of this country. A bill was passed 'n 1863 again, to touch the representation of the country — to out Inver- ness into two parts, and make other oh'*j] . 3*; but who then heard the argument that i: «»« unconstitutional because the people had : c- passed on it at the polls ? I may be told Li< and bye that the measure did not touch tf.j oonEt.tution of the country. Did not the c -j- position of that day feel that it was a delibe- rat3 attempt to altar our constitution ? They fjucceeded in defeating it, it will be remem- bered, in tbe other branch of the Legislature. What more? Did we go further than that? We passed a measure— one which I hope will continue to be the law of this country for a long time to come. We came in elected on universal suffrage; I came in myself by a vote of 5 or 6000'people. By one swoop wo swept out of existence what was then consi- dered to be ono-third. but vhioh is now known to be one-fourth of the constituency that sent us here. No member of the Legisla> ture has ^ver had the hardihood to come in and ask that it bo repealed. Did any man git up and say that the Legislature was ex* ceed'ng its power ? Will any one say that that Act was not binding upon the people af this country. It is true we were prevented from having that Act carried into etfect at that general election, but that does not atfeot my present argument. I have given you what I consider ta be a very high authority on the power of Parlia- ment ir connection with the passage of the Reform Bill and the Catholic, Emancipation Act in Great Britain. What more? Who that Great Britair: for many UVVa tf* years, has been divided into tw^ parties— that the Whig and Tory, or Liberal and Con- servative pMtisB, have been the two grett contending parties ? From time to time one of these parties has managed publio affairs. 00 ^i!i' i m Into (he Enei?.h^.^) renf^b^aV wmS* CommoM a lleform Rill iK j ' ''°°" "' meter of wbleb WM „Si?,'i*T"*"» "I"- •bout .di,solitio„ wi. .,?d"'°?'Vi:'' Home ud oiiantw Ihm if T i. "'' ""« led away by clapS """'"^ *° ''^ ternary" a^.t^SetJi ?tt*^f ?"^"-^ ^'"- with the queS «aVe 1 a, iMT't '" ^^'*' after thf fu lelt LMh.r»!?"''^"rT^'"^« """^e gentlenjau would not m.i;„ ' "° ''""• :h«t^ew,«r'fbir;o"dtud"Vn'r:rhi: DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS T . """ "'" aoie to di>fViiifi n^. ;; rr.s'',/. %%!,i*r-»«° -.Met lh2°°' *"™''"' «"=»ii-I did not ,„ -'»' «.."%&. JSlLt? So" which the Lords of th« 4*^.^°'' me « .«8e in to fiid ioi; 'iJ^n' •»» l"yeri,i H. "u.T" ro#Sr'^««''"«'^--: wher an Act^^'^,^'' ""f •*''« S"P''«'°e Cour" quoted from ani Brii"h f. " ^'''^.<'" ^« i^l^raHfrr^-^^^^^^ bined would not vSure "o mlk?.7or I re„«? insuUiDg to the feeliii»i. nf tilo I. ' •"'' vniiJ T„ » jemugs or the country wan that Novft sj.rTfi. k " ^■*iiiament and laid of thisProTinoe lL„' ' ^'^"^ ,''^""" » grant :r^'i'?&5">s-»o^r.f.:i-.' srXo;fS»S- Of THE HCU8E OF ASSEMBLY. ^ General told ua it irai Qaeen Anne's and ber heire forever,— I would like to see him with all hie aoamen and industry, work oat the family tree which would roako Nova Saotia, even in that case, the property.of Queen Vic- toria, (The usual hour for adjournment having come Mr. Blanohard intimated hat he wruld reanme his address in the morning.) The debate was adjourned. MISCELLASE0C9. Hon. Peov. Sect, announced the iezo'ipt of a draft for $^520 from the Council of the County of Ontario in aid of thn fund for the relief of distresBsd fi&hermeu. Hon. Prov. Sect, laid on the tabltJMinuies of Council in reference to the appointment of Lecialative Councillors Also a fctatement of the Trade and Com- merce for the nine months ending 30th June. Mr. KiDSTON asked the Governmant to lay on the table a statement shewing the amount provided to pay the first instalment and in- terest on $400" borrowed on the credit of the County of \ iria, also shewing; how the road grant for i857 was eipent'ed for that Cotinty, how it was drawn, and what num- ber of Commissions was issued. Mr. Campbell presented a petition pray- ing that the privileges extended to certain ports by chap. 798 Revised Statutes, be ex- tended to Port Hood. Mr. PiNso presented a petition from D. MoPhee, a ferryman, asking remuneration for boats which were lost in a heavy storm. Mr. NouTHtjp introduced a bill to enable the Commissioners of Schools, of Halifax, to e>'ect a school house on land demised to them by the City. He also presented a petition against the bill. Both were referred to tLe Committee on Education. He nlso p'^sented a petitiin from James Tucker and others, for a special grant for the road from Turns' Bay to Sambro. Mr. M0EBI30N presented a petition from Charles Turner, asking to be remunerated for twine and rope lost in its transport by the Railway Department. The petition was referred to the Committee on Manufactures. Mr. CocHRAir introduced a bill to amend the Act incorporating the Roman Catholic Episcopal Cojporation of Halifax. Aleo a bill relative to the storing of oil and Petro- leum in the city of Haiifax. Mr. Ceambehs presented a petition from the overseers of the poor of Truro, asking a fart>-er allowaroe for thesuppoit of transient poor. Mr. McDonald asked the Qovernr"!nt to lay on the table a statement of the number of patients admitted to the Hospital for the Insane since its ectallishment, r\nA of other statiitica of the Institution. Mr. FiNEo asked the Quvernment to lay on the table all papers relating to a complaint made by — Fraser against Mr. Bigelow, a Justice of the Peacs for the County of Cum- berland. Mr. PuBDT said that as the v8th June last was a memorable day in relation to our pub- Ho affairs, he wou4d ask t^e Government to lay on the table an abstract of tha Minutes of Counoil for that day, eheving the other appointments then made, and, in addition, a statement shewing all the appointments made by the Uitl-Blanohard Government since Ist July. He said he would also request the Government to state their poliuy in rvferenot^ to these appointments. Mr. CoPELAND presented a petition from > mill owner of Piotou asking for the openins; of* read. Hon. Mr. Fergdsson presented a pct.ticn from Messrs. MoLelan and Can le asking an increase of pay. Also a petition from in- habitants of Low Point asking for a road to Lingan. Hon. Mr. Teoop presented a petition from Andrew Henderson for the opening of a road. Also a petition from J. G. Biloam tt al t^u^- tees of a sohool section, for aid in erecting a school house inttead of one burnt down. Mr. DesBeisay presented a petition from the inhabitants of Mill Cove asking for a road. The House adjourned. Wkdsksdat, Feb. ia. The House met at 11 o'clock. Hon. Attorney Qerehal introduced a number of acts to inoorporaia the Eureka Gold Mining Co., the Ontario Gold Mii;:-:;r Co., the Kingiton an! Sherhrooke Gold Min- ing Co,, the Wtiotworth and Sberbrooke Gold Mining Co,, the Alpha Gold Mining Co. Also an act to enable the firowards of the town of Piotou to borrow certain money. Mr. Campbell presented a petition from Margaree in reference to money. Mr. Hooper, two petitions from Richmond, Mr. White, a petition from D. McDonald and James McNeil, of Little Glace Bay, with reference to a '■oal claim granted to others; they ask compensation. The petition was referred to the Committee on Mines and Minerals. Hon. J. Ferousson introduced a bill to In- corporate the Glace Bay and Cape Breton Railway Company. A b ' to incorporate the Gardiner Coal Mining Company in C. B. Also a petition from the trustees of Schools in Sydney, praying that no material change be made in the School Law. Hon, Attobnet Qenebal introduced a bill to incorporate the Montreal Coal Mining As- sociation ; a bill to incorporate the Hayden and Derby Mining Co.; a b^d to incorporate the Mount Uniaoke Mining Co. DBBATB ON TUK REPJGAl. KB* HOfiUTIONM. The adjourned debate was then resumed. Mr. Blancuabd rose and said:— Last even* ir?, by the kindness of the Government and the House, I was permitted the privilege of concluding my speech to day, on the \ery important question under consideration. Having now >efore me the full report of the hon. Attorney General's remarks, I shall proceed to notice it as fully as possible. But, in the first place, I would atk leave to move the TKHoiutions iu auieuuiueikt to tiJOiu lutio- duocd by the government, which my hon. friend (Mr. Pineo) laid on the table on luo-- day, for the information of the Hooae. The foUowiBg are the reiolutioni:— ^rvj 63 'i 'r aoimealao-th"rmnlH»i'p ,^ ""•* constitutional en- has been ve.M. and rfri.i,*'''"f '*■■-'»' »"" «ver wh chef the BritiKh ivi!:.it» .' '° ^^^ ■aany or b« iaeludeS with n^.u'lh CotL"""l? ^"'''^""'' """"» Prince EdwTd'a Isilnd un^ ^1'?"""; N"' "'^'"'e'' should not be of the nnrXr ^5*'''"''<^''»'«» 8h«""d or th»t Re,olut%„ r.nu"r?thLfc "/.h'''^,''L^ '"°" «' should be reDresented h, o '"^^ "' '*»« tJoUnleg legates. "'P"'^°"='l *>? «"» equal numbt-r of De- have\Tjoned'l.'Z''Jha°T'"'"'''', °'^"'"'<' Accounts Provinoe;"ndin^h2»h.»ni°*°,''"''' couJitbn of the stliuent part of oinad/ «ifh ^'^J .'" I"""'' " », con- ways and other pubU.Tork, Tha? n?V""J "/«*"- of the Province Unoir «Tnnnf,.m 'i'"' '"""'*•' '^'''>' intere.tupon'^lhTm!u'Swto«18o"Sur'^'''^'' wards: which if iha hT.j.i m x/ . ^•°'',V°''»' d«"«ration of the oonspiciiou, f..r tholr lotilfiT.nS ..^*.r* "■•"■ '>'«'> them „r s^^r'^tfio'^br.r IfAVh!.?/' "^J^"- -P°° vin"; 0° nZ Scotfa'^f'"'"'^'' '^'""^'"'^n »f '►>« Pro- part of Her iuiitv'. n "''-'"'' displayed on the recgnise; ,Lr wht fnd V^"Z7^\r''. i?" 7'""^ to in the despatch of th»R!itH.nMl''n''''"''' Pfinoipal Secretarv Bf Ht»t . f ^^°r?^^- <^"difell, from ^ach otherrof maLin.^ L'?"* •* ""'^ '"""-'^ .i..«.t,,,.Q,,,roS;:,'i„7s.S','j'v'i; Monck as Govern ir n ,„Z,„i . aauressed to Lord -anou. .>th.?:;^;';^?|;,;-{; "^l^-.jn Which, .he/i;'rsu; ^fS,..^'„^o; \\t^T£'^;ir "'^'•'^ SUftiH to KOMCe.t with th« W^n.,?f 'A""'"'"*'« »"««• -nm- at will ' mfd'e^^^f r/bi'"'' "^i-'V" « 'v' .-wor for car,;r,!f ,t j'm"eS^^ct Tt'wM'"' i". ."'*'" r. ^.-..uu'ti ,!a 'f t™ oat ^T^a^iraen'r ''' ■"='"' 5.'.;-9:t^:'^i;e^t^';h^;-^i-'5t^^^^ Qoje;nii.r ":«' ddi'v'eVd" ;r:[e TaU'v^ o^T*'' castle expressed in relation I the Mm??u'bJect\Td" [|* m OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 99 i to be found in ft deav^tch to the Earl cf MalRrare, dated the 0th Uy tf Jnly, 1882. After refefrlnK to •mm: lucti rnmrdreDce or oonsultatton hs that held at Q'lebec , that xreat stat«tman and friend of the colo- nics remarkeil : "But whitever the result cftuch con- imitation might b«. tlia most aatUf.ict iry mode cf test ioK the "pinion (f the people of British North Ameri- ca would proba*iy be by means cf resolution, or ad- dress proposed t'l iho L'-jfislRture cf earh Piovince by its own Government " I rcgrei that in Ihc aisoharge cf what I coudider to be uiy duty, I have made theso resolutions moru voluminous than I ever rande any before. My excuse is that the party I represent feci it n-cesBary and proper to state their case as fully as possible, and ahow the country the grounds upon vhioh they oppose the resolutions introduced by the Government. We shsll not have the advan- tuge possessed by the Government of having delegates to explain our case fully in Eng- land, and therefore find it necessary to ntaiie this amendment somewhat longer than they would have been under different circum- stances. The Attorney General Rtitsd, I perceive by his speech, that he vpould probably add one or two other resolutions to his speech, Now, I feel we will be at some disadvantage if we arc unable to give these new resolutions that full consideration which they may demand. (Hon. Attokney General here read the re- solutions iii question.) Mr. BiiANCHABD oontiuued— I am glad that the Attorney General has given me au oppor* tunity of learning the nature of the new re- solutions which he intends adding to those previously introduced. I now r*8s on to re- view the lengthy speech of the Hon. Atty. General ia opening the debate. I need not say anything as to the introduction of that speech, for there is not n sentence in it with which I cannot aarce. I concur most em- phatically in the declaration that the happiest and freett people in the world are those who are most obedient to the law. Then ho went on to speak of the want of a Court of Im- peachment for political offenders. This is the first time in my life that I ever heard of any man living under a Briiish constitution ad- vocating any other Court for the trial of such offenders than the High Court of Parliament itself to which every member is responsible. If I trangress the rules of this House, or do any- thing contrary to its dignity, — if I offend against the laws in connection with nuy pub lie duty, here is the tribunal to try nic. Up- on yoii, sii', and the gentlemen around, will devolvj! iheduty of punishing me cojisistently with its power. We have next from ths At- torney General a panegyric upon cur own constitution at well as u))on the fraiiiui's of tbo American constitution. Thi^ faahf. of the latter were pointed out to a cert.iiu (.'xtcnt, >xn\i the bi-autien of the constitution unJ.-r which wn h&Vii lived was beautifully tuloiiizil, and with these sjntiraeo's I nan liod no f,i,.'li. The Hon. Attorney Gynerjil d''o;ar'jd that tho gro^t fmlt of the Anrieric:i!i fyitnra was that it was a democracy and a conledcraoy — thit it wa."! deiuoQtatio iualesd of raondrchical — that it WIS ft federal inctcad of a Jcgiflativo union. I aprcc with him o\t the first point. Ocmooratlc institutions are tht; last to which I would wish to resort, but I differ in tot'j from him when he says a confederation is not stable— that a federal deraooraoy cannot luo* ceed, In my judgment there is no tyranny on eartU so absolute a.n that which can be f^xeroised under a pure democracy. Under this system liberty may be crushed, and no remedy or appeal allowed to the citizen. This has been exemplified within the past four years in the United States; the Habeas Cor- 2)us Act has been arbitrarily suspended ; and we have seen 13 or 14 States kept out of Con- gress, and unable to legislate except in ac« cordance with the wishes of the dominant party. I am not going into any lengthy argument on this subject, but I will aak the House to consider whether he has not himself shown that a Confederation ia calculated to make a country great and powerful. What does he say in the. subsequent part of his speech 7 He says if the United States only settle their internal difiicnlties they wiU become one of the greatest, if not the greatest, nation on the face of the earth: He baseii that assertion on the enormous progress of that country within the last forty or fifty years. A short time since the whole world looked on with contempt whilst a nation of shopkeepers en> tcrel into a civil war; no one believed that the contest would last for any length of time. But the world saw armies such as it never saw before, not even in Napoleon's days. What enabled that country to send into the field its troops by hundreds and thousands, n»y by millions? What was it that enabled them to raise the money required to meet the'r enormous expenditures? The fact is . that under a Confederated Democracy they had been growing with a rapidity such as the world had never seen before. I am told by the organ of the Governm«>nt that I am crammed for this occasion. I will undertake to say that no member of the Government i will dare, in this House, to repeat what their organ has tauntingly said. But to continue, the Attorney General has said il.At it was the difficulties in connection with State Rights that gave rise to the war. I differ from him in a ,'^00(1 many reepcots. In the United States tlv? ['resident appoints his own Cabi» ntt, which holds ofliae as long an ho chooses, iind though a nisjority of botli Houses enter- tain opinions different from these gentlemen, yet they may continue in power. Look at the posiiion of the preeetit Ci>n.p;re*8— enga» ged in a heated conflict with the President. A great diffisul'y has always been tiie irre- presfiihle conflict between tho North and S.iutb, on ibe question of slavery. But let mo u\\ the Attorney Geniral that we are not coni't;(lera;i.Al .in tiic Uniled States. There were ori^-inally 13 inciej)endent States. le our o<'tii1itiou analogous to that of thofC Statjs? The hon. genileiniin complains that we are vir.t ns iiidepcmlent as an Aracricin Si..* \ Maine for itittiucp. Now I have no (Je-irrf to peo this country ".nnextd t3 the U>-it;-d St-'itep, neither d i i wish to see it pisiced in tho ))()sition of any State of the Union WhpT! we ijo ini'.* the United S^fites, we find tliH Statfs p'lwccfcinc; diflercnt Usury L*WH. Each Stite «g«in has different reati- lutiooB with respect to the franchise. No- thing of that kind exitta in our system We e« hate one Ururv L»» ««« ». our Senators of nnr r » " , ^°""0". of would have th'e powe"of «.^f"'°?' "'^ *« highest degree M^'surefv hi »hf"*'°° '? '^^ would promulcate TuVk . ^® '?".' ""*'' '^at oo the people govern the Unit»,l «u.. "' than the people here? n«-t ''**?">•"■« tZ Housf theoret cll?v""^' }\ ^"."'-l ^e people? It would bXtetSri'^ V' '^'. Ge5era|?''?f''rn:" • ''^'f'^'''^ the K c' the time of Kg! iH*'*irr,'".Pr" *° "Her Maje "v,-^we"re ?oId ^I'^l' i^'« «'"«• »yJn case Repeal i„efused I^S'T^ *^»* eequenceswhich I do not liiri * ° """^ Pl»te. Ifcelitmvdu?v«V " \? contem- House, to ask ml fJf.^ " * member of this and consider if^tLi^iZue^'t'^h" ,^" .P*"" Pe«Ied. "What then?" ""'"^ '"' "- time." of tJia'coW ?n i^'}- '« *''« "o'd n. a colony oaBVn"aJi'hTr/^.''°'S« granted to it by the kin^ k^,. .,? * "•'""te'" afterwards an act was m«S • '''"^'"onths tain taxes on the oo2nt?v ,f k- '?^'°"°e oer, greater man ever adorln . ° n i''*^*'- ^o no man ever made mo?/! -^f ?'"'*''''» ''e°°''. Mansfield. I ask the , « aI^"*" y. it ii theking: but thL ». \" "^""^ levied by Mitutio^^I and '^^^refiu,a?'''r. '' ^' ""°<^''- of the hon. Attornev^olJ,: ,^ r^""" *•»« ^O'e How many personsi„?,?5'"' ^9,'' old times. was going on. TheM tw«il *'^ '*°°* *'h»t this country-impo 'eV/nd'n^r ?°^''°^^^ penny of taxation.' S, the old ch^w ""'^ be irrevocable. Cannnf « charter must has once been granfed bv th/i!"'*'l"*'°" ^^"^ Many of these fhartcr«-.r^rA'i!e_l'« •"""d? • >> men to manufaotnro no'.'tl.'^'"^' sranteu have an exclusive richt to ht'° *"**''"• *« localities. Itwascontcn^en^K^i.V" "^^''^ «ors were irre^S^r "Xi'lS ^^^S OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. ^ uecesEsry that there should be some power to alter these charters, by William and Mary, ohap. 8, the whole control of all such matters was given to Parliament. Yet will the Attorney General or any other lawyer vereed in constitutional law tell me that the High Court of Parliament had not the right to alter the charter given to Lord Cornwal- lis. Then let him go to Jamaica, if hr 'de- nies it, and what do we find? The whole charter of that colony waa ewcpt away and changed by the Parliament of Great Britain. Nor is that all. Did not the Parliament in» teifere with the constitution of New Zealand? Did not they go to South Africa and unite the two countres into one? Ten or fifteen years ago the separata Legislatures of Cana da were swept away, and the two Provinces united as one. The Attorney General eays that " Queen Anne became the absolute owner of Nova Scotia, and it does not bcloag to the people or Parliament of England, who had no more to do with it than the people of Turkey." If that were true we vould certainly be in a nice position— subject to the caprice of the governing powers of England, with nothing but a flimsy charter between us and the mon- arch of the realm. We have a noble status —we live under the shadow o*' the British Crown— under the shadow of the British con- stitution and British Parliament— we are not Bubjeot to the mere caprice or whim of any single person. To tell me that the Parlia- ment of Great Britain has nothing to do with the Province of Nova Scotia is to tell me what no sensible man can believe. The Parliament has the power which it has continued to ex- ercise for the last century whenever the Im- perial interests are affected. I speak now within my own recollection. I had the honor, when a young man, of being one of Her Ma- jesty's Collectors of Customs under the Brit- ish Government- commissioned to collect certain duties imposed by Imperial statute, and with which th-s Legislature had nothing to do. Yet the Hon. Attorney General wishes to go back to the original charter. The money oame back, it is true, but for what purpose? To pay the Judges and other public ofiioers whose salaries were paid by the British Government. Ihey never gave up the right, until at last the duties became too small to pay these salaries. Then came the great fight on the Civil List between this Province and tho British Government. At last we had to agree to fix the salaries of the public ofiScers at certain sums before the mat« ter was settled. Not until last year were wo allowed to touch the matter again, and deal with it as we might think proper. Yet, says the Attorney General, the British Parliament has nothing to do with the Province. The hou. gentleman asserts tii^t the day the King signed that charter, and appended his Great Seal, he gave up the authority to make laws to the Legislature. Unquestion- ably he did. To make laws, how? Subject to his owu approval— to his own veto. Inat is the power which the Queen still possesses. Did he give them the exclusive power to make laws ? He retained the right for the Imperial QoTernment of making laws whenever the 9 Imperial interests required it. It is not » dozen years since a large proportion of the shipping were taxed by an Imperial statute for the erection of a light house at Cape Race. There is not » ship that oomea into this barboar, or goes into a foreign port, but is controlled by an Imperial statute. Our statutes in connection with that matter are not regarded; our shipping act is not of any : value beyond the borders of Nova Scotia. I am sorry that I cannot follow the Attor- ney General through his ''aluable discourse upon politiosl economy. Ho says that the free trade policy of 1848 was an injury to this country— that it fettersd trade, and led to % great deal of diffioulcy. I dilfer from him on this point also. Never was there a greater boon conferred on the British Empire. Eng- land said to the Colonies : impose what duties • you think are necessary, but you mutt not make any difference between duties on Ame- rican goods, and those from England, or anywhere else. That policy, for a time, led to some hardship; it prevented our goods, for a time, going into the West India market. It was nevertheless an evidence of the genius of England. She showed the world what the enterprize and energy of her capitalists ena» bled her to do; but the Attorney General 's a protectionist of the old school, and cannot appreciate this wise and judicious policy of j the mother country. But had England no^ thing with us when she passed the Act itt i question? What right had she to say that you shall impose certain duties? What light . had she to violota that musty old parchment fotiiul somewhere in the archives of this building? The Imperial Government then told these Colonies, if you pass an Act oon» trary to our policy, wo shall veto it, and the Colonial Governors were instructed to remi.«W« matter. Nova 83°" 1 Nova Sootia-forit would be a heavy bow to her mariCime iupremaoy. KnowinirthaT ?«T w"*."S '""'^l '°°'' «n it in thft aS. t«2 a'JWoL^f "^"^ ^'"" P--- ^« A.«mhw ■ ««°*'«'°«° "y* that the House of d^Ki/n^oT^ ' reiolution authorizinR a P.S ° "' /°. **1"*^ number from each P'ovinoe, and that all the prooeedinss were l^^egal unle»8 thig principle was caS out tYaTAl^p"* '? ''»•' "^« resolution only «»y. that each Province ahall have an eoual voice Itmadenodi&erence whether there were sTx from one Province and ten from another ~ rndVquaUotr'""'" ''^ but an equal voice The hoD. gentleman hai suddenly fallen in Jrom'i-'' * ^^g''"!*"^* Union. I don?^ d?flfe? from him very much, but I am sure his fh«vh'"''" ''•°''««« ^ithhim. wEavo t^ey been saying over this country for the G"ier1?SL„T'^'" ^^ -wampV in the tioS^a nn^t^i q"*"**!,^"'"" «"'• representa- tion IS only 19 ma House of 181 merobers Ia?u«""tT''rK'S ^•"* "°^ * -eparat lS: Uture, to which is entrusted the manaSe- tS Vn*7 ^'"'^ in'Portant public ques- tions. You have now charge of our minM and minerals, education, crown lands and other matters afiecting the people- but ?ct thopriaoipleof the Hon. AtSiy General be earned out, and what then? All these important matters will be taken away from Do the gentlemen who support the Hon Attorney General agree witf him on this I have been taunted with being in a miser- SL'"l^"**","^''!«"*y-«'"^ being the re. pmentauve of only a fraction of the county which sent me here. But my hon. friend from Cumberland, as well as mjeelf. fedthat .Tb w^l"*^*'' responsibility thrown upon ?« *•. S°* '^® representative of IS.DOO voters tliat the vote cast on the other side was much greater; he people, in the exercise of Their constitutional rikht. swept out of sigh the members of the Government which had cro- !.•„ /l*i°'^ ^*", ^^^ "presentative of a frac- tion of the people under thofe circumstances he great body ot men whose representative 1 happen to be ; bst all I can say is that J I".- ^* "y ^f** *" promote their interests and discharge the duty devolving upon me. DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS Kr^'o^"'^ presented a petition from th" Jjruit Growers' Association UB« Afternoon lile«i«ion. PETITIONS. Mr. KjpsTON presented a cefition fmm B l^L,^^' /■*'^*'"i«on and othe'rs for a money grant: „ so, one from McMillan and others; also, one from Alex. McDonald and others alao. two from Big Interval. DBiiATic onr run bepkai The adiouraed debate was resumed the »m,nY" "t'^^'C^ t'^ permission to second the amendment which has been moved bv the hon. member for Inverness. As another cen tleman had the floor on the adjournmem of the House I will not now ocoipy the time oocasTon."''"' "^ ""^rvatioos'^^or anS; ME. MOEBISON'9 SPtKCH. ♦h5w MoBRisoN faid-lB rising to add.oss the House on the question now before it I pnysiodl disadvantages of which the Hon I ^h«.y^S'°'* K'''"'' *° '*>" I>e"Ple Jenjands that thi Jir** """"^ "^/'be arguments used by Th«S.!f' '"""i" °" ^bo spur of the moment W Ki'^-^"*'"''*'' '"^'^ »« »bat he wa3 unwell but ha did not tdl us the cause of his iEs* iithiS"?**'.!^'" ■^•'"" •*' abscess, tilled with ilogical matter, ju .'ing fr. u what «. °'P«d-^'«liP».andItru8t that having gol nd of such a quantity of tcrritylo mat°er he wonted"heaUh°T'?.'\ '"'°"' ' "''^ '''- ments wKlf^ff,'^'' ^«'^^*"^« i» 'be com^ menis which I shall mak( ipon it. Tbp first S iXi?!*"""''' ""«''^'^' wben Ketold a 'rin«i'«f'?P'*^.*'' tbat we would . ,t get a repeal of the obnoxious Union Act He was ten thousand times more confident « ■ nay l»vo » right to B_»y to ub, i»e o&naot UB- 8 resumed rmission to eeoond leeu mi)ved by the Ah aiiotbergen- aJjourijment of jcoupy the time, tioos for another PliKCH. ising to add ,>9B low before it, I under the enmc which (he hon. Iftined; but the le demands that rumente uied by yf the moment. t he was anweil. >eof his illness; *i ahscess, tilled :-fr("u what es- lat having got iWo matter, He ' I, rcgtin his ur thdntioesairy •ds in the com- n it. Thn first :o will be about when lie" told would ■ )t jref Dion Act. He confident that n the Attorney et it; but was d member wae tioDs, but !i6 his toiic, and would oonieut from the Em- of the whole ;n»ge reminda eard 5 a othtr are we about »oh H. ■■ Ma- constitutionx 3 Commons of oon federated ke thslt plain lated that we Jout the pur- sed. 1 ascert isplayed that B Tory means 'ora the Em- nited States, en— for I Ije- 'inoiples' un- igs on which that is 'tny s strenuous. »l«d it is my lich we oan- le neighbor* lat the Im- »ny time to ion ;— this n the ncoei- Parliament keep you any longer lu your presect con nection, wemuntoaet you off. But I deny tbo right of the Imperial Parliament to follow us t»ftcr that connection has been biroKen, and force us into an obnoxious position agaiiiBt our will. I say to this Hou?e, and to tha people of thia country, that if ebedoes do 60 it will be an unoonBtitutional act on her part, and a. perfect breach of faith with the people of this country. We are told in the first cUuse of th ■ amendment laid on the t*ble by the hon. number, that Nova Scotia has the right to make Uws by her Parlia- meut for her own peopls.— 1 go with the hou. member there;— it «ay8 further that she ouabt to have that right,— 1 go with him there also.-but I ask has the Parliameat of Nova Soolift wade this Confederation Act 'I 1 deny that it did, it never passed through our Houfe, therefore it is no law of our making. The ItgisltUors who are elected are the meu who have the right to make laws for the country in which they aio elected, and no otie else has that right. The men tlected must make the Uwf , they cannot delegate the power to ano;her body. I deny that two Parliaments can hold the same power,— we have no authority for such a proposition, cither in the moral law, statute law, or oom« mon law ;.or in tUp divine law, or the law of nature;— a man cannot servo two masters,— if the power has heen given to the Parliament .)f NovaBootia to make a law, that Parlia- ment may make it Bub.iect of course to the dPseat or di^pent of the authorities in Eng- land, that is the oonstitutional check placed on our Itgislatioiji, but no other Parliament can have the aame power at the same moment. Something has been said in reply to the remark of the Attorney General about eur having no court for the trial of political oftenders, and the hon. member for Inverness says that this legislature is the court,- but I dilTer from him there. There ia such a court, and the peoi)le of Nova Scotia constitute it. They have given our late political ofiFeuders a trial, and have consigned them to oblivion as politioiauB forever, and in that they cxer» cised a most righteous judgment. When the hon leader of the Opposition came to refer to the Republic on our western border, he grew highly eloquent,— he swelled himself almost as big as the frog in the fable, and t&lkod about the tremendous democracy that had suspended the Habeas Corput Act. It is. true that in the United Statea that Act is suspended, and why ? Because over a mil- lion of men were in arms, and no one knew from what quarter the next bayonet thrust would be made on unoffending oitiEens; but is there no other part of the world in which that Act is suspended? Will it bo believed that the Habeas Corpus Act is suspended in this mighty Dominion? And what is its Government afraid of? Not|of the bayonet, but of the free expression of the opinions of the people of Nova Scolia. The Government of the Dominion are smoothing the way to throw us into prison and keep us ohere with- out a trial.if we should raise a murmur against their acts of tyranny. A great deal has been said from time to time about the United States having confederated, And that matter was refwrred to by the leader, of the Opposition to-day. It ia true that those States did confederate, and why did they do so 7 They had no nationality— they had to oonfederata in order that they might beoome a nation. There was no snoh necessity in ou- oaee, for we were part and parcel of the migh tiest Empire in the woi-ld. Oub new conati- tution makes us, not as was the case with the old colonies, a new and independant aatioa, but* mere Bttb confederacy, taking us »w»y from the bosom, of the Empire instead of drawing us more closely to it. But the hon. member sa'-i that somebody outaide thia House asked : " If we cannot get repeal, what then?" The hon. gentleman apoke aa if it were really wrong to ask so aimple ft quea- tion;— ho assitted in taking away our coaatt- tution, and now he wishea to silence enquiry; —he would not only manacle our ha&da but seal our lips. Surely a Nova Bootian can aak *' what then " aa well aa a man in any other part of the world. But there is another ques- tion I would like to ask, and it is : If we get repeal what then ? That ia a question which the hon. member for Inverness will be more deeply interested in. When he goia down tft face his indignant constituents they will show him " what then." In speaking of the change in our constitution the hon. member told us that no such question was ever sub- mitted to the people at the polla. He must have a very abort memory, and I could not help thinking, aa he made the remark, of what old Doctor Henderson said, when his neighbor's pigs got into the field,—** I turned them out," said he, ** and told them not to come back again, but I find they have very bad memories; they all came back again, and now I'll take a gun and, faith, I'll help their memories." No such question submitted to the people at the polls ! Waa it not done twice in New Brunswick in relation to this very question? Were not the people of Prince Edward Island allowed to pass upon it? W&s not Newfoundland allowed to aay whether she wished to come in or not? Yet that right was denied to Nova Scotia, and without ctet- ing any reflections on the other Provinces, L may say that our people poasesaed aa much, if not more, intelligence thhn those of any other of the group of colonies. Aye, air, it was because they had more intelligence that the right was withheld from them. Was not the question of annexing Ireland ta England submitted to the people ? Yea; and when the people of Ireland refused to accept the measure at the polls, English gold was aent in to accomplish the work, and the rights and interests of Ireland were aaorihced by her legislatora. And yet the hon. gentle- man stands up and aika if ever such a ques- tion was submitted to the polls. In the course of his speech he said that Sir Robert Peel had declared that Parliament was bound tt) set an example of wisdom, justice and good faith. I thank him for that reference, and I aay well would it have been for thi» country if the late government and legw'*; ture had ioilowed the advice of Sir Robert Peel. Before I conclude my remarks I will show that that government and Ifgialatorif acted moat feoliahly, with the greatest inj^ tloe, and in violation of every particle of J*" w 68 their de«p,tchef and SjJ''''^ ^r^ K^'W in eroni manner that ff, ho ^'^ '? ?"<"> * t"«oh- niOBt humble hod.P.rtfn- • ™°J'Ser or the broke. piedgL, and SemLd^th^- ^^"^ ^^^ hi" master eo fillv .« th^l ^•J'^.u'"'"""*" °f » looiety of ohimnifv .- ^ "^'5^. ♦here is not Empire but woSlirh^^r'" ♦^^ B'^fish disability. '^^ ^^'^'''S »way a religious ter until oufown wlw"" '1*^ *» ""« ">»* it- That brLR?u8 Ekl"tL*"^ '^^?'* "'*^ our people had a richt^l ?„ ''.^ a»sertion that fectirg their own in W,t*h» W'^'^ »^" the Withholding of Hpr^t!'- 1"', •'^^"^ being theory is, thft No4 S-^n*,^ 'r^"^- ^'^^^ power, moved first for tn.h.n'" '^""'"^ *•"> Great Britain fXwcJfnfh" T' ^°'* •»»*t examine that thoorv nrpl^^.^^t ^^^ »'" meantime Jet us JonL?"*°^l^' b"' '« the fhat was brou^h forwLn^? 'y"«»"«on i'sh Keform Bill pIwu^:'''^* ''^ ^^^ ^"3! P»raed that mlaLe-l,,°''^^' '' '«> "-u* could have done'"?' But "itt "'^*"" 1^'>'''^>- change in the cons itutfon if h''," "'^^ * P"ve any class of peoSe Tf' L^"^- °.°* ^'■ merely aided to the ri^h^i '^^'f; ^ghts-it 1^** J8 » distinction in u^^'"= ""Wect. oJe«iy in view C " « ? fh ^ "'«''' ^'l'^ ^ed the pfople of Enc an!j nf '''" "°^« '^<^'"'- Pnvileges. Then a°Sn I- f "".^ rights or the Corn Laws-dW /hi. ^ '" '^° "P^r,! „f the revenue, 7f the counLT'"'"' u*''"«*«^ ernment 7 True it m,Vht ? *" •.""''i^'' Gov. the revenue, but .h«^l^. . ''^'' * *""« ""pple *We to bear'the 08 ' ^W Th"' "'"""^ "^ po.nthere which l" wish t?''^ '" *""»'•« attention: were anvnf *i, P''**" <>" your ried againsube washes o?,*h: '"«"'^"'' car- land ? No, but in oh!^^! ^^^ ^- ^«1^'« of Eng- n>and»; while he Act of ron/*"^ '''*!'^ °"^- been forced upon us desni^i'*^:f*"°° ^^ remonstrances of J e SeoSe^rff^^'i? ?,*™°g oipation, the Reform Sc«ure*HK° ^"*"- ot the Corn Law7 barl hf ' *°i l''^ «P«»l years; election afta* eMin^'^l" i''.^*^'"' ^or these questions and thi ™ ° ^"^ *"'"ned on port the leeisT.'tionwhic^!?.«>««ted to sup. We. on the contrary haS nf ^"^""'Plished. chocsing our r/nrespnt-fl '^ opportunity of to any s^uch chlnge X "o-r/*''- "^« ''*«'^ I think, is a full answer to fho"*"*'""- ^hat. duced from par«lieT^*„J*'^;?.''S"ment de* alter cases. The MinistrS^nf xP"?"'»''tance8 not, on any one of thL^ I^ngland could «topd a week^ifThe? had Lf r "'?• ^*'« will of the neoDle- hJ K "' bowed to the try BtandinlTn defiance of T ^'''^ * ^^^°'^'- iniisting that the neonlp\.V''° l''°^'«- ""d matter. ^®°P'^ **^ no voice in the ovir" aSn'sroV^imshts were^ handed diiiiB of uanadaV and I .,1; i7'l«^**^* i^P^^' •H.ple oa« be f.und\' E'4tti^toVy1 K DJiBATES AND PROCEEDINGS BrVsrpt;iii*rTn,'°r ]?«;«" "y '!«« member t3pJ*nT mho .f K^''^^ ^^' ^on. •ix million, of serfs ^ptv^nl'^t"'*^ *''"ty- whhin fhe I'st fnnf "''°"° empire.^has. millions of her euTe,-^?h«' rl''''""*'^*^ ''"'» lying on our westpVnjiry'*' 9"*' RepabHo through the m?st?errih1f'- ^* J°»t come that w« ever Sd fn hi*J°'fT''«°'°« war which she drenoh'edh«rEn,r'''i' ?. *" « human blood to liberate fi.?°Mr-*"'y'' »*'!» 8laves,-but oh! « ir t?iHt "r-"'°S' ""^ '>" proclaim it not'in the reets of Br.^,"""'- the houeetons of Am!,: l^'^r^^''. or on thebeastedTsyfum oTlfhpl^*' ° ^i'^'"'*- pMsed in the sevemh °' *«« century that Zl?- q™1? ^' *'"' nineteenth Bri.ishVer?8 We \re5;?° ?"!)"» f"*"""" ourselves from ihVZ ^''""'ned to relieve because we do so we h'-r°n '"^'^'"°' ""^ «nuationT brought' \Tain t"«s""H''' >- now, as bripflu .- t^ , . "'• Having speech of the Son V,^ °v.""'^' reviewed th! will tarn my X-tion°l'''''i°' '"'""ess. I iramecliately nndPr rf^° to the subject more e:cprers m/ d"en Jp j;"^/!.''- ' must here PaWiament^hou?ht"fr"L??i '^L ^""P*"*' that hasbrouffhtthn^I '^tr 2 P"' " act the ver/e of *Vr^ • ^°I^. "^ *''« countrv in the hKy of Kh^KK'."°P"«"«'^J Single-handed *n^ f r„^°''i'T ^merioa. by incfuBtrJ and ecoJomv°'h J7* ^°''»''«. country to a nosit^on f h.^' *"'' elevated thei; eyes of th* rfellnw «.? V! ^'»''»b'« in the pomt wi-h pr de L S'^i "^'^ °''°''l tbey had mideia materK*^^^^^^^^ "^''^ i^e to thfiir lovaltv .nJ Pf^'pcnty as ^--ll throne of QreatBrrt"! attaohm.nt to tha their own frPeinetiSnn^ ^^u^" o'jerishir.g fo nolle PubHc wSHh-^ •'^'^°''-"''* ' down in the country! while tK ^"''J" ^"^^ ever reiiily ro meet in tho . ^ "^^^ heen ner all the locTl demands of'? ,"/"'• '"• '".*°- trial classes. With « Triff , ' ^"^'l '°^»8- of any of the a/L! p"^- ^"^^^ than that America, they had rfrn^M'^""!" "^ ^"'i^h the education Of the^Tou 2 '^^^"''"''^""y f°' of the roads and bri^Jp. '*"' **»« tn»»ntenanoe public services ThF^ a»d of all the other law-abiding disposition nf*^ character and gether with tK mdness ofTh'lP'"^''' **>- and bankinn- in«t ♦?.;• , t°® mercantile Sootian.^X'-ected'abrS'whil'l tT'' ""'"^ Phical position of the cmirtrl *?« ?«ogr». into the bosom of the AlW ?' •■l!!"'"^ oat cent harbors spread over^hu' '"J* "^ISm- open to the'shippin" at au.'f!''''"'^',"'' year. The richnwH «? ^ • reasons of the in almost every cou„i''"f T%' "l^'^ufding gether with th^ vast amonn nf ^''^'•'"'e. to^ oial tonnage, all L^K-^i'^""'" commer- Sootia an object of DrlTal^'u*" "»•'« Nova the brightest gem iSth, .^'''!^ .P^'P'^' "d of. the British EmpiS wlth"tl?-'T"'°°'' things the great boiunf*!. ''" this state of foctiy content! but ?n^ »n *"" P'°P'« *«'o Per- unnat,.-"i l.l-?"' '° «n unguarded hn„v^^ fiance of our oonfitit»*jL rP,* *^*y »« de- W THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLT. 6t own condition, and by miBmani&ement hay- ing brought themielTes to a dead look, oon- oeiTcd that the only way of relieving them- eelvei was to come down on the Maritime Province* and drag our people into their broils. Accordingly they came here, and lome of oar own politicians, full of ambition and lust of power, aided by the indifference and hot-haste of the British House of Com- mons, obtained the enaotmentof a law which tookYrom us almost all our rights and pri- vileges. We have been subjected to the do- mination of Canad», as I will shew by an extract from the speech of one of the mem« beri of the Ottawa House of Commons. Mr. Harrisoi; said :— "Canada before Confederation had not more than 684,676 men between the afun of 20 acd 60. bat since Confederation we have not let's than 663.667 fighting men. We have added not less than 1.000 000 of son- ■umerg te our whole population, and not leas than 100,000 flghtinacmen to nur milititiy slreugth Besides we have |,acquired great ttrength on the bei, where we were in most nted of strength. Befoie toe Ui^ion we had odIj 6 9&i sailors, and most of these on our in- land waters: Now we cm boast nf 28 860 sailors, and when we shall have Newfoundland as a member cf our national partnership we shall h»ve no less than 66,- 9'iH Bailors, and so become one of the great mgritime powers ui thii world. Before the Union our shipping was represented by a tonnage of 287,187 ton?, bnc now we can bfust of 708,421 tons, nearly as much as that bf France wlih a population of 86,000,000. (Min- itter of Justic>> — Our tonnage is as larg^ as that of France. Mr. Harrison — If we could now count New- foundland and Prince JSdward Island as varts of our J^ominioo, I belicre it rould be as large, but without those Proviaces-I think our tonnage is a little less than that of France.)" Thus we see the almighty "we" sticking out of every part of the speeches at Ottawa. The tone of the Canadians is "oh, be quiet, and we may modify the tariff for you." Is not this the language of the emptor to the captive 7 It certainly is, and the Canadians did not spare their pains to let our people see that they regarded us as captives. And yet, sir, I regret exceedingly to hnd that there is a man of Nova Scotia birth who is willing to stand up on the floors of Parlia- ment and vindicate an Act which brings such dcgradatior on our people. I will now, sir, put before the House and the country several extracts from despatches which, I believe, will put the question in n, clearer li^ht than anything that I could say upon the subject. The task will be, no doubt, to my hearers dry and tedious, but I hope I may be indulged with attention. The first proposal in reference to Confederation we find came from the Canadian Government in a despatch asking Msjor General Doyie whether that Government would be permitted to appoint delegates to confer with those appointed by us on the subject of a Maritime Union. Sir Richard Graves MacDonnell hav- ing assumed the reins of Government here very shortly after the receipt of that des- patch, returned this answer to L»rd Monck with the advice of his Council :— "I can assure your Lordship of the ex- treme pleasure which it will afford this Gov- prninonfi in nnnfot* iinAffiniolIvT mif), anu TIaI/, gates sent from Canada. It is, however, ne- cessary to remind your Lordship that no Re- eolation has yet been passed by any of the Xiegielfttorei) of the Maritime FrotinceB, authorizing the appointment of Delegates for any purpose but that of oonsidering aome plan for the Union rf the three Provinoea. Therefore, neither I nor my Ministry have the power to go beyond the exact potoert conferred by that Resolution." There we find a distinct admifsion that the Government and the Delegates had no power even to discuss the subject of this larger union without the authority of the represen- tatives of the people. On the 18th July, 18vS, Governor MaoDonnell sent a despatch to Mr. Card well, some extracts from which I will also read :— " I have consulted my Executive Council on the question, and the Members doncur with me in thinking that the Resolution of the Legislature.whicb authorises the appoint- ment of Delegates to discuss the Uuion of the Maritime Eastern Provinces, confers no power to discuss officially, the larger question embraced in LordMonck's enquiry.'' "Having signified to my Ministry my wil- lingness to appoint Delegates to meet those of New Brunswick and Prince Edward Is- land, it ssems proper that I should call your attention to a Despatch of the 27th of Janu- ary, 1860, mai!_ed confidential, and address- ed to my predecessor by his Grace the Duke of Newcastle. In that Despatca his Grace, whilst apparently expressing no disf.pproval of the discussion of such a question as -that which is now imminent, concludes with the following instruction: 'Previous to sending Dele,';ates to Quebec or elsewhere, such a proposal should not be authorised by your- self withoat previous communication with the Secretary of State, in order that the question of the Delegates, and the instruction to be given them may be known beforehand toH. M. Government.'" There we had again a reoognitloz. of the people to heard through their representatives before the appointment of a delagation, and an admission that such an appointment could not be made without the sinction of the Co- lonial Secretary. Further on I find the fol- lowing clause : '' In the mtantime I venture to add, in re- ference to the suggestion of Lord Monck, that it seems premature to discucsthe larger quea- tion of a Union of the five Provinces before it can be ascertained whether the three smaller, whose interests are more immediately and more evidently connected, can be induced to combine in {closer connection. I apprehend that the more limited project, if practicable at all, as I hope it Is, is all that can be man* aged for some time to come, whilst if the larger proposal be attainable, and be desira- ble, its adoption will eventually be in this way much facilitated. I think so, because a Union between two communities, which would be all that would then remain to be accomplished, will assuredly bo a simpler question to arrange than a Union between five as at present." That was the language which the Lieute* nant Qovsmor bv the advice of his Council held in 1864. Again, on the 18th August of the same year Governor MacDonnell sent a despatch to the Secretary of State, in whioh hesaya: 70 rA^ Miitet^to'rh'.V J>r'"'*""" Of the ouMioDhy their de?e«L,.f *"*'>«'-ize(J di,. om the Union of 7bf,Tpr/.?°*' '!""''««» e"- • • r -I ■^f>»in, he *KBAtEs Ai^D pnocEibmai who had been at ChSutln^'n^'^'^^^^' >s fcomethln., . V"""'""'"'n. But there " ^^:^^^^St^^ awfiftfoh to I.«ei8l*tive of S?'"«L **«»»er Federal h" tatjve; and as thp p;!.f "^'^^og a ReDrp«« impogs 6le for «»,„ n "°'ober, it wouM I Siotia to reach 0^P"«^^*''ve8 of U' AM yet reached ine r I ®^o'"»n Dele<^aft.« f;?. if° ^«r Aonjj' ^' f ^/ore;%:;r graphed trLordMonJ'r^' '^"^/^^^^ »« possibly r ffliv fi^S''^ ^"^ *'>*t Tff ct .„ ." •bore re-asons^o^nf"! ">«''''' "oable for Z .Quebec Confe/.^o^e j ,h'"^. P^'<'K*«i to he naa H,g Excellency styino- in the GoTernor General : Deepatoh and i'i eDolosur« Lf"' '*" ^<^^'- tfy. and I have aDDo^n^II ?!'"';? "^^ *»inifi- cUl Secrettry. thriion A; ^^''^ ^'°''»- «he Hon. R «. Dickev "Vw ""7 ^^''e''*!. •O'l A. G. Archibifd ^U*" "^1^- ^- McCuIiy |at.on to meet the De'leA^e'e 'J"'''" .* ^'^^^ UrUiBh Provinces inO^Vl '^^'" ">« "^h^r ■hip's Despatch " ^"^"P'^'^'^ 'n your Lo.d- pobten^'oVrh'eVeLX'^'''''^.^"' "'^ *P- ^^cotia before the 12 h^^ TJn ^V^ ^''^^» d«y« before that date th-^ fin^'that. nino •U'l I tbink it will farthn^? y™ "PPoin'ed. on? of those fi vT geS 5f ' ^E/^ "'^ "V*' '''"^*' 8eptr.. drawn from t .fl?rl^ ^''^' °° '^''^ 30;l, ted »400. Wo Xo find ?„T7 ""'^ f""^"'- l>eor . from Mr Card^,,,'? •despatch of SrcJ which, being awarfl of tsi h°"^ *^""'''^- '" beo, and undpr.^ i- ® """^^rence at Que wa^'ted to subm *?f'?S '»»«' the dolegates »8ya:~ "'^ several Provinces, he thrt^yoWo'u^lJ'^f-Mfsty.^ Govern res, in concert withThI T io. f"^*"^'^** "»«"« of the several Provin^i ' /^"'"^ ^"'^'•"ors the respective W?.li^f.f* fu' «"'>«>'tline t:^ Conference; and ff,?f1*''''' P^'^J^cf of 'he to report ti^at these lL;.i?'' ^^^^ "« »bie » -itf x-ie Priv1n'o^'o/BS^'£r^?'-^ I.ordshi??uSs1oMLT"* "^'^•^ y«« i' euogesvs for the purpose of giving ••>mm OP THU HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 71, effect to the iDitructtoDB of Her Mtjeaty'i Oovernmcnt, viz., to submit to the reipecUTo Legislatures the project of the Conference,! am in a position to state that this Qovernment will take similar steps to those proposed t3 be taken in CanaJa " Here was a further pledge that the whole question would be presented for the oopsider- Ation of our Legislature in the Session of 1865. But I will go a step further, and quote the language used by the Lieut. Governop to Mr. Cardwell on the 13th January, 1800. Ho says, epeakinj; of the course stated by Lord Monok, to hhv{\ been the policy ^opted by the Canadian Goverriment :— ; j ,, . " I haT,e bad much pleaaaro in intimating thp entire willingness of this Government tu adhere to the same policy. It is indeed pre< cisely the course which I had myself recom* mended as aogn as I was in possession of your views on the Quebets liesolutions." This is the last extract which I shall make from the Journals touching the action of the delegates and of the government of British Amcrida down to 13th January, 18G5. I xe' peat that it Was the Canadians tbat forced ihemselvea on the people of the Lower Pro- vinces: the Union was not oar seeking, nor t'r t-t of the people of England. The Cana- dians had !?ot into a difficulty f im which they could only extricate themselves by dragging. us in with them. I think I have sljewn from tbp ilespatohes th%( our govern- mant acknowledged that they had no power to appoint delegateB until the authority came from Her Mejesty's governrtient; yet they did appoint tucse dslCg^tep, and paid them, and those delegates had been sitting in the Conference at Quebec preparing to legielate away oar independence several days before the authority for their appointrcent reached Nova Scotia. I ask, then, sir, if that is con- stitutional? Cevtiinly not. I think I have ihown t(< the House that Governor Kacpan- iiell wa?! opposed fo the scheme, for that ap- liears by his despatch of 18th Augtist., I think I have also shown that the Secretary of State forbade the appointment of delogates without his icstvuctione, and yet those ap- pointments were made in the absence of those instructions. I think I have shown also .that tbe British Governnieut, a.s ^fell as the Qov« ernmontp of tbe Colonies, were of the opinion that the results of the lieliberalions at ,ue Conrerence shall be submitted to the Parlin- mciits of the Provinces at the firet Session afterWiifds. Ttiere was no denial of the rights o^ tha Legislature or' people then— and why ? Because it was believed that the scheme would be popular; bufivhea the 'de- legates returned they found their mi^taljift. Hence it was that Mr. Tilley went to the li?oi^ of New Brun,swick ;but our "Premier" knew that he 'waB doomed if he went to the ci)untvy4-he knew that he never cou'.d.cirry An election in Nova, Scotia ogain. He had carried one election on a famous retrench- ment scheme, aud his pirty had been rc" turned to carry that measure intd effect. Did they do it? Not at all; but Dr. Tupper turned his attention to a, scheme that the people w^ie determined he should not carry and said ho had no right to deal with. He found that by gross misrepresentation he, Vd got himself into such ft positioa th»t he h»d nothing more to expect from the people of Nova Sootia, and huice it was that in hot haste he hied off to. Canada, and th«re, with a brow of brass and a tongue of venoqi, tiriod to better hit ciroumetanoet at the expense of the people whom h. had betrayed ^nd, de* ceived. , That was the true cause of the determiMi' tiou on the part of the Government of Notra Scotia tj get us into Confeil^ratioo- It i« true that they have tried to shield themselvei under tbe authority of Lord Monok in tt>e appointment of the delegates, but I deny that Lurd Monok bad any more power in the mat* tar than Governor MacDonaell. the whole thing was taken up without proper authority, but that was not all : we have to complain not only that they acted without dui author- ity, but that they acted deceitfully; the whole scheme was to have been kept perfectly 84. ' ret until it could be submitted to the Parliat- menti, for they expected to rush it through before the people eould initrupt their repre- sentatives what to do. if it had not beet) that Mr. Palmer, of Prince Edward Island, was more honest than the rest, and exposed the scheme, and that our people, becoming alarmed, summoned their delegates 49 meet them in a public hall in Halinx to explain their resolutluos, the plot might h|ive been carried out. Our delegation did come down and explain their oonduot, and they pretend- cd to say that they had authority by virtue of the resolution of ISCli That ground was struck from under their fee i^, ana here let me say that when that resolution wa^ passed, I opposed it might ai.d main; I was the oauao of its not. being discussed here, and I can therefore claim to be the first Anti-Confeder- ate in Nova Scotia, for I said to the Governo ment of that day : "I do not expect that you will do anything wrong under this resolution, but you know not what devil may follow you." The delegates, as I have said, came down before the publio in Halifax, and sot Mr. Archibald to box the figures for , them. According to his statements it wasij the most beautiful scheme that ever was B4b«,^ raitted; we were going to have all thj fortifl^it cations that were necessary, all the canala were to be deepened, the Inteicoluuial rail- road was to he built, the Northwest Territory opened U)). ^nd all for forty cents per head^ I never believed that Mr. Archibald was sincere iu those statements— they wei;? got up to de-' ceive the people.. But the people suoa began to gather in different parts of the province, petitions cauio in to the Legislature, and, after tha Government had consulted, their friends, they iound that in a house of 55 members they had but 23 in favor , of iheir-.f scheme — one of that number being'nn the chair. They dare not therefore submit the msasure to Parliament au they had pledged themselves to do'. ,., But what more sir? They had pledged themselves in the Governor's speech to submit the scheme to the legi»lature,-»-in tan paragraphs of that speech Coutederation sticks out as plainly as anything can, a,nd notwithstanding that, the go^rernment dare not bring down their aoheme. But what did they do ? They tabled a resolution tai oar- 72 If. I Wi ment. and I beliere th.»^.^* ''"J?'5* ^'•''"*- The P ol°Le !"no"»T„' "'■" "'^ '^'^^^^^ eener.I election. But. whatever man, h^ It rt evident that when they found thafi Sre.t number of that cU.b of men were to '^-'Tth^ta'-frit^^-^'""" -^ «^^ Jnr.Xo"o^,eS'?L'a?nS;S prevailed throughout tho country when ho S thit'^hPrr °"°^"^°»'°<' '1°''° »"d de- cured that he had received despatches of too starthne a nature to bo announcrd on b« floors of Parliament, but that ho couS say th.smuch: that the Province of Now Bruns- wick was about to be invaded Th»?«n uouncement, it is said, took ov r two m n to' be Government ranks, -it was made with J«^,^»'en of talcing over men. Bat ler fs tho^^V'^" means were made useof Bv the Quebec resolutions the twelve Senators were to be taken out of the l-egislative Coun- Qil.-bere was a beautiful "'^anoe of holdh,- out to twenty four gentlemen the DrosnS promotion The twelve Sepators.Ty^tho Qaeb3o resolutions, as I have said wfre to be taken from the Upper House, if g'eXmen ho dine seats there were willing tfco Id not only so. but half of the number we're to b. taken from the Opposition, and thit was ano her reason for gentlemen* voting for ^he resolution. But in the Act these provisions sad ..7,f ««^ "1 the Government then Thf; w-' wewenot bound to do that " toLnS!,°? «'!'°S^ *^« Government power to appoint delegates to go to England for tho Sit?°'fhf ^"♦^^J"^.?-^"'^^^^ '° ooSnect on with the British Ministry, was carried through this House at the dead hour of ni^Tt and the "previous question " was moved to shut pnt debate. The wily Archlukr'^tnni" n.«."i*l*j"^'i.*J?''"'=«^^'°g wculd damn their TfL^'^'V^^ Government to withdiaw the motion, which was according]-.' done:~xren- tlemen rose out of their beds on that nffi D12B1TES AxND PROCEEDINGS to the Senate from the ran' ■ ' 't^T , " i tion. and that ».« Mr 't":.'.'" ''" ' ^PoA. ir of »e in . and f Nova if'-iera. tuple of '°''' "nd that was Mr. Locke bm House. ThatresoluUonc , 1866 was carried by the ba*.Mi dec miarepresentation. " ^«Lu*''*' "°'»'"«« ing it off. BKoause we do not submit with a good grace it is said, "0! you aire rcbeln and annexationie'e." Tiie resolution of IbOO told the delegates that they must gtt a ccheme that would do equal justice to' all the Prn- vinces. Now, I ask, M the ccheme they di g(t gives us equal justice with Canada? I oeny that it does. It has e.Tept away all the old revenues which wc had under the 10 per cent Tariff, and has imposed a tax of 15 per cent. The additional .'3 per cent will realize $524,000, of which $200,000 will be taken away to Canada, leavinpr $324,000 to pay us our 80 sents per head. Let me asic if that is jiiat. The scheme startled even the Finance Minister of Canada, for he told his people that while the delegates from Novr Scotia had consented to reduce the amount distribut- ed for their local wants to the extant of §200,000 or iff 300 ,000, thfi scheme would give to Canada a million dollars raoro for local purposes than ever they had before. How, then, can any man stand up and say tliat the measure does justice to Nova Scotia? More than that, it gives the General Parliament power to tix the people of Nova Scotia by every method and to any extent that maty bo requires. But it may be said that our representation at Ottawa can protect us from injustice, — we have had a fair trial of that, and what power have they had to protect us? Though they stood shoulder to ahoulder, how could we ex- pect them to accomplish anything against 160 npembers » Ontario aad Quebec have got the power in .eir hands, and will combine to use it whenever the interests of Canada re- quire that they should do bo. Nor is that our only ground of complaint. The Act t&''SB away from our people the power of ap- pointing a single way office keeper or lido waiter, — this patronage is all vested in a Government 800 miles away. We have been told that there io not a great deal ot feeling in opposition to tho scheme throughout the country— that that feeling will all die out in a short time, and thtt the great majority of the intelligent people arc ia favor of Union, while against it there are but a few political demagogues. I say that such is not the case as regards tho Couuty of Colchester at least, and, without saying much in her favor, I think I. may say that she may be coaoidered as intelligent as any other county in the Province. And how did matters stand there? I will take it for granted that the feeling in moit of the othe? counties is similar to that we had a fairer test of the opinions of the people on this question. We had the only Dominion offioial who came before ths people of ^^'-ra Sootia at the polls, we had a man bo*-. „ithin the county ,with all the influences 10 of a Urge family connection, with the iofla- ' enoesofthe Ute lamented S. U. W. Arohi- b Id, with a professional practice of twenty- five years, w.th his own long political exper- ience; and against these influences the friends of Confederation thought it impossible that the people of Colchester eomid win the elec- tion, liut lam proud to say that the people of Colchester in their majesty rose superior to the ditliculties of the hour, and noiwith- (tinding that the Home Secretary could stand up and tell us that Qifen Victoria waa ill favor of Coifederation, that the Imperial Parliament was in favor of Confederation, that every intelligent man in England was in f&vo. of it, that the Governor General was in tavor of it, and that the Ministry of Canada were in favor of it;— although he could point to New Bruuswick, and say that her people when they became well informed on the sub- je( . accepted tho situation, yet be found he nau lost the battle when election day camo round. And were theje all the influences that he had to assist him? No, sir; iet me tell you that he had the Government of Nova Scotia at his back — he had in his county one of the ministry of the day and one of the Ipgislative councillors of tbs day; he had all the influence of the educational 'irisi'tutions at his back; he bF.d the Judge and Uegittrar of Probate and the Regittrar of Deeds to AFMist him; he had the railroad laid through his county, with tho influence of the depart- ment in his favor, and he Lad also m railroad in prospect, the expenses of which I always SEserted, >'and my assertion has been verified to our sorrow, would have to be borne by us. With alt these influences at Mr. Archibald's back, we overthrowed him by a majority of four hundred. It was a noole and a mighty victory. We felt that t^e eyes, not only of all Nova Scotia, but of British America aa well, were upon us, for there was the Home Secretary of the Dominion coming to the polls. But he has had to gather up the mu- tilated shreds of his former political reputa- tion, and has betaken himself to the wilds of Canada, bidding farewell to his native couna try. I believe if occseion required, every county in the Province would do the s&me, for while Nova Scotians can boast of their loyalty to England, and will be ready to fight her battles, if necessary, while she gives them the rights of free men, they will never be loyal to Canada under a Confederation Act forced upon them as this has been. No sir; never! ntsvee! ! NEV^'ilR! ! ! We come now to«noteable speech made in the Ottavra Parliament by one D'Aroy McGee who, I think, took a great deal of liberty with our people whea^ in the absence of their ohtm* pion, in a speech pondered 'over for days, slept over for nights, he insinuated that the influences brought to bear in this country were not very creditable to our loyalty. Had he forgotten the time when he was an expa» triated rebel, with a reward of $1030 set up- on his head? How dare he stand up there ami] *>M/ia<^K (*K/>r*f atk^t^Xj^Vt 9 T ^>^n/7M«B +lkA men whom be addressed allowed him to sit among them; there could not have been any Tom Morrison there. Let him step boldly off with the laurels which he won in the cab- bage garden; but let him not talk toKova X '\ ii 'I 74 DEBATES AND PBOCEEDINOS » I SootiMs about loyalty. He told the repre- sentativea of thia Province that they sat there on » three-legged lie; ah, sir, I thank him f"r thatexpreawon; they do sit on a three- legged h^ but who put them there? Thev sat there by yirtue of. the Act uniting ua to tS*a ^ ■ P°'eJ .*V .tl»e Preamble of *hat Union Act. in which it is said that the people of Nova Scotia desired a Union with Canada There is the tirst leg of the lie. Then I point dV "•«r»'on made aoroas the water, that ^'dams Q. Archibald was the l<>ader of the opposition of this country, the fact being that he had been discarded from that positio? long before That is lie the second ; and if you want the th^rd leg of the stool. I point « I^'p7i''°.V".''.'*'^ Premier pui into the mouth of Mr. Watkin, about this matter hay- ing been submitted at the polls in 1863. There . 18 hiB three-legged lie for him. It appears that notwithstanding all that iias been said on the subject, the Confederates think we are to have no repeal. Well, sir, I confidently believe that we will obtain repeal, because it was said in the House of Commons, only last year, that if the people were dissatisfied, they must nit be forced; and when they find that our people never had an opportunity of ex« pressing their r pinions. I think they will willingly repeal the Act. Let them look at the diffculties prevailing to«day in Ireland, and which have arisen from the country beine forced into a union. Do they want to eeta- bhsh another Ireland in British America? And let me ask this question of the people of Jingland : If Ireland were where Nova Scotia IS, how long could she be held ? Not au hear. The people of Ireland. I believe, are struggling not so much to get rid of British authority as to obtain a repeal of the Union and to hive their own Parliament restored. ' Wa may look at Poland partitioned off against her w'll, and .hen turning to Hun- gary overrun by Austria. I would ask you to a^low Kossuth to plead his country's wrongs. We may look at Mexico ov-run by a foreign power which placed M- ..oiilian in a high position, and we win eee that man carried out of the land which he rnl<>d, a corpse The people of England must not expect that the AngloxSaxon race of Nova Scotia will be less tenacious of their rights and privileges than are the Celts of Ireland, or th« peofle of any OTtheother countries which I have aamed. What we want is to have our institutions placed in the position in which they have bCen, and then we will be truly loyal,— I do ♦ not say that we will not be truly ley* if we Jt ^Jo »o*e;et them restored, but there is not the f shadow of a shade of doubt that we will be so ifoHir request Ji heard. It is an entirely misn laken policy to annex a small countrylikeN Sootia to a large country like Canada for the purpose of giving the latter relief fiom hpr pol.tioal difficulties. If the position were re- vtrsod' the smaller colony might be relieved by th'e annexation, but under other oircum* stances the smaller colony is sure to have its influence swamped. If a coacl' and six be fastened in the mud, and a light carriage be attached for the purpose of assisting it, the whole will become fixed, although the coach and SIX could get the light vehicle out of the ,_, rrs-u -cnst:. «u curciy SB ihey tiOli US in the Act of Confederation the whole will be overthrown, and that is a strong r-eason why we should gat repeal. 1 would ask what f,'5iV *r ''^fi.P^ople of England to sacrifice us who have a.ways been loyal for the benefit ot a peopla who have not been so ? I deny the justice of such a proceeding. Our people, as I have said, have always been loyil. and w/*'!u "'".*'° '° '' *'»'=''■ institutions are left to them, hut we think i» a hardbhip that our interesij should be sacrificed in order that these fehows in Canada may be kept in The Act was passed a-rainst our remon- strance8--I ask if that was British? Is it oonstitutional that our rights and liberties should be taken 5»way without a hearing? Ihe most contemptible sheep thief within the realm obtains a hearing before he is deprived of his liberty, and are we to be treated worse than a sheep thief would be 7 I b' lieve not; It IS one of the beauties of British' law that ao man can be condemned unheard Among the reasons given for the great change ttat Has been forced upon us, was the asser. tion that It was necessary for us to oonfede. !^tln 'i.etensive purposes. But will this paper confederation shorten the lin« wh'oh separates us from the American republic? i^an it produce a dollar more for defence than wo would have had otherwise, without in. fnff^l? *«^,V?u° ^ ^'" '' ^""g a «>a° more • *°^ field than we would have had other- wise? T" a argument in favor of uniting for defence fails to the ground as soon as it is touchea. Then we were told we must con- tederate m order to regulate our Currency, and upon that pent I heard one of the dele- gates expatiate: he told us who the delegates to Charlottetown were, and what great quali- fication e they possessed, and then said that when they got to Prince Edward Wand the vvhole five of them were unable to count tneir passage money ! O mockery of mock- eries! iive men who could not count their passage money to Prince Edward Island, chosen to frame a new Constitution for Brit- ish North America! And that was one of reasons advanced by oue o' our *' leading minds in support of Union. In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, we a - asking the Commons of Eng and to repeal this Act because ic has created a feeling of distrust in the breast of every Nova. Soptian, ad by repealing it they will show to the world tb»t they are willine to do justice to the meanest subject who can show a cause of just comi.laint. If our re. quest be granted our people will be peaceable and contented. It is because the/ wish to remain peaceable and contented within the British Dominiong that we ask for Repeal and we will continue to aik until it is grant- ed. I want to see every man on these benches voting for these resolutions-help, ing to restore the Constitution of this coun- try. I want every man in this Assembly and every man throughout the i ngth and breadth of Nova Scotia to feel as warmly and earnestly on the subject as I feel, for I tell you that if I had a thousand voices, ye. ten thousand voices, and could raise them KM'JiiAL !!! now and forever. OF THE HOUSE OP AB8EMBLY. .75 8PBXCH 01 kit. BHITB. Mr. Smith said:— I feel it: to be a duty which I owe to my conetituents to state frank- ly my rpinioDS on the question wiiiob. is now agitaiing the minds of the people of this Province In doiDR so I ahall endeavor to adopt that temperate and dispassionate style of addreoB, which I believe is the best adapt- ed on the floors of any Legislature to attract the attention of the gentlemen who are ad- dressed, and to recommend ^tself to the judg- ment of every one sitting on these benches. I regret very much, that in the discussion of this question, every gentleman who addresses the House is necessarily constrained to at- tack the leader of the Opposition, who has advanced the only arguments on his side of the question, and if in the remarks wbich'I am about to make, I am oblig jd to animad- vert strongly upon some l' ' he observations which have fallen from him, I trust that he will believe that I do so with the mo«t earnest desire to avoid anything like I personal re- crimination. But sir, every gentleman on these benches has a sdlemn duty to perform in the interests of the people who btve elect* ed him to represent them. This is a most im- portant crisis in the history of Nova Scotia. Whether for weal or for woe the people of this country are now called upon to oflfer a remonstrance against a union which, in defi- ance of their wishes, nas confederated them with Canada, and has jeopardized, as they believe, the prosperity and happiness of their country. When the scheme was first brought before the public in a substantial shape, I gave to it the calmest and most dispassionate consideration that it was in my power to be- stow upon it, and came to the conclusion that if the people of the country consented to aln low their inte-ests to be bartered away by that measure, then they had much less intel- ligence and spirit than I imagined they pos- sessed. Under these circumstances! deemed it to be my duty, casting aside my own feel- ings and severing many asRociations, to come forward and assume an independent stand, and advocate the interests of the people of this country. I /elt that the scheme in itself Jid not ensure " a.iust provision " for' the inierests of Nova Scotia; and I intend ad* dressing the Houi^ and country, and giving to them, in as couoise a furm as is possible, the reasons why I conceive the measure to be most disastrous to the dearest interests of the people. First of all, there was nc exigency in the pOBiiion of this country that required it to be con "iterated in the manner in which it has been. It must he apparent to every one that the representation which that scheme gives to the people of this country places them in a painfully humiliating position, and oasts them, perfectly impotent and htipless, at the feet of an alien majority, i felt, how- ever true this might be, that it was impossible to apply any o.her principle than that of population in the construction of thb popular Ijrancb. ypt some provision should at least be made to guard the interests of this coun- try in the upper branch— in the Senate of the General Parliament. We have heard » good deal about the Gon- ?s this 'kbat?.. The hon. member for Inveraew has cast many aspersions upon democratic and republican institutions, and however ready I am to ad- mit that the constitution of Great Britain is far superior to that of the American Repub- lic, yet I very much regret that the gentle- men who favored the British North America Act did not look more closely than they did into the system of the United States, which preserves at all events one ad t>iirftble prin- ciple, and that is, the one which gives the smallest State an equal representation in the Senate Chamber with the greatefct -State. It may not be known to every gentleman around me that although in the Lower House the principle of population regulates the re- presentation, yet in the Upper House the most insignificant State has an equal voice with the largest and most populous. Why, sir, the wise and sagacious men who framed that constitution did not act in the trifling manzier which appears to have been the case with those public men who framed the constitution which we are now asked to live under. Not one of the smallest of the thir* teen Statps would have gone intb' the Union unless Buoh s ^revision for their rights had beei assured them. We are not only in a powerless minority in the lower branch, but alsr, in the Upper House— nothing has been done to protect the interests of the smaller membor of the Confederacy. I entertain likewise v^ry strong convictions that when any ibody of men attempt to change the con- stitution of a country like this, or undertake to sweep ar*y theindependencT of our Legis- lature, to vrifle as they have done with the feelings of our people,— that they should at least have had the modesty to say to the people: "Are you willing to have these changes brought about?" They should at least have had the consideration to have asked the people of this country, will you permit us thus t» deal with your dearest in- terests, ^nd sweep you away into the hands of a Canadian majority ? Not only did they not do this, but they coolly and unhesitiitingly set at defiance and soofi'ed contemptuously at the wishes of the people of this country. Is it not a matter of history with respect to this Confederation that the people of Nova Scotia were not only opposed to the scheme itself, but to the passage of any such measure with% out its having been first submitted to them at the noils. Wfen the hon. member for Inverness 300ated the idea of leaving a question of such a character to the people, bi endeavored to bring forward some arguments in support of his position. He boasted of the absurdity of leaving questions of this kind to the people at the polls ns mpnifest from the whole of British authority. He asked the House whether Sir Robert Peel, a man whom he eu- logized in the most expressive terms, and the potency of whose colossal genius has left its mark upon the his.cvy of the world, was not a good authority on constitutional ques- tions, and proceeded to assert that that states- Toan passed the Catholic Emancipation Bill without leaving it to the people. But his case was no similitude here. I am free to ad« mit that Catholic emancipation was an alter- sttion of the constitution^ but I t-ell tli6 lion% 76 \'4 i u I I' SSSS Tw°r,re SiT/^ '^^ Which the yery KriiamVtThf Sls^Sl^U leges of vS^BritLh';;^, :C' t^ *S? £^^^1: down bigo^rv and inM?^ ^""^ """^^ *» 't'-'^'e door to Her m"4 V « «''''?.°^;'°'' ^P"" ^l^^ lesM wh!^ - -^ ■'^ .*°^ ■*">« po t cal privi- bmhreS ^ In 'th^'''"^'^ V^''' Proteatlnt case. T\at auenHnn » . u ? ^°® previous Jr ye»r,.'i„^r "."nort\a'rBr?uih%Tt? the lead Sr public men^orF?, ^""J'Wy aeeaion of Parliament j!i *'°«'«« * co»- mem ^a« been Srow ""P^^'^'sible govern, pie areooncwned hvtl'o*!^" " *''° I'^o- ?epresenta?'on at^fy.*i^«'*'"»°ter °f our member from t.e Mar t^^B Pr^^P"*^ *'"y oppose anv n.e»gare wh^^^h fu""""*" *"« *" of Canada mSt think nrnn^'.^''-''"''"^''"' affecting th^ interest. nf^N*^" ^" introduce that that roeaturfi l..^ ^°^t ^°°"». a°d the people of Novrw""'-'''.''''' P"««d; M act had been carried n^*? ™'^'^' ^"' *''»* inge and iDJar?ou« to ♦k°"*'^"«'"^ *^«>f f^l- tions.-bu^-'at Z i?« ^'" Peculiar institu- couldthe men iho'caSV^H?' u^'°"'«'« measure be resDon.ihl/ /^ ^*i obnoxious would be r'e epZiSi?'o^„ ; .l^f^oay They people, and not to the electors S n^'"*^'*" tia whose interests won fi hi ' ,?'* ^°o- feoted. Therefore I .avf I, f Peculiarly af oumstanoes Nova LoH«^*» "^!^" "^^ <^»- doe8numeMy1nferiorintT'K°« »« «h« the General pirTlimprf "" ^''-^ branches of not only hJmU S • 1''".'"^''' !" P"«*f">« gerouB. ""'"""'*"'e. I'ut positively dan- prJIs^n^\?Se'jfome^"^*^'''" ^^ ^f- that Nova Scotia wn.fi^ - Confederate party influence in the Ke„fr^'«''* controlling sequence of the ant^^L- ^'^".°'?°8 i" con- t^h^e Upper ;ndLo?ef"cradfan'.'°"h^f"f" hat been the resnlt ? t i u"f' "^^t what when I heard it for h« «^\"^^**^ ** ^^^ iJ>^» W.J 80 pXab S aiy?;/*tSl'a^*""? S' to th.nk that the momVnt UnJSi'ai'in^eZs DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS pened? Take Ih! , °*«:*''"* »ctually hap. stance. Wefindifltha"^ question, for in- the MarltimVpr'o: 1 S: r/olTtl\TJ!-''^ Yfu"°fi*nVs^VJS^V\VF-'"« -'°^^ themselves free forever from'^thiKted fhr'a'l? Inl«ne"s'''?^arri«'ibtrd'rra"''"*'" '- n'"tt P^fple^S''^-^^^ polls. I contend ?f?n h. ^^ °op8""ed at the will recollect that Mr BnVhV j„ .u •' . ■'""^ c'o'untr; TSrj'}' *^e P-P?^n?t!.i' felt theVrc and Sca^cv T'£'' ' ''''• ^'^ and what did he do?" i tat' ifT^rTK** .peechofthe late leadL J/ th Gove'rnm J? not undertake to deolan ^ y * lit " occupying the proud ^sit:c 'tf Mi^^'^S would perpetra 1 a BfateniT, •>. ". Newfoumfland an^ TlT .'^ °°"°« Union: and wbv? i^-.IsUad into that Coloni . 'frTop- ,;. trt'h" P«"Pl«of those therefore »n com^.n u.t.oe andT »;. '"/ ance with oonstitutio^'f '" ,g*^h y Sed We find the?J"^" '^' -^P"""'" o7th?s Act ierenve to tills province. To.. ,.s.«.~.».i-. -* OF THE H0U6B OF ABSEUBLT. 77 the Act showi that t^e Parliament believed the people of Nova Scotia were actually in favour of (he Union. Tjerefore I believe if the Btateenien of Oreat Britain bad not been cgregiously deceived, they would not have placed on the records of the country an Act taking away the righta and privileges of the free people of Nova Scotia. I find the hon. member for Cumberlan-' enlertamin); ititutions and ind the •principles of Ubc . are upheld, determined struggle for freedom, which must ever ensne when an attempt is made to pat down the liberties of freemen." Again he saya :— "Destitute of representation in the Parlia- ment of Britain, with our mof t eminent men syctematioally excluded from the highest po- sition in their own country, and for which their colonial experience and training emi- ...rntl.rfits them, it is impossible that the free sp.rit of the inhabitans of British North America can fail soon to be aroused to the necessity of asserting their undoubted right to have their country governed in accordance with the well understood wishes of the people," Now I ask thti bou. member for Inverness to explain why iv it should be constitutional to appeal to the people under thecircum- stances in question, and unconstitutional to do 80 in reference to » Uieaburefar transcend- ing in importance any question ever before submitted in this country. The hon. member for Inverness said he laughed at the idea of referring to American instifuti.. ns as a <^ uide for the ctmntry. "ow we find the ho- member for Cumbarland making use of expretieions like these in the same letter Thich he addreisad lo the Duke of Newcastle :— "The people of this Province have been content, my L)rd, to pay ■ ^'^^^y of fifteen thousand dollars a ysar t > a, Governor sect fr.' a England, 'jesides a lar;;rp additional sum to keep up hit: establishment, while the State of Maine, with twice our population, has the privilege of electing that officer from among her people, and pay him fifteen thouinana dollars." The hon. gentleman has eudeavorei to ri- aioule the legal knowledge evidenced by the Attorney General. He has treated the obser- vations made with referpnce to the ri?;ht of the British Parliament to pass any Ar; touch- ing the constitution of this country as per- fectly futile. He declares that the British Parliament, whenever they thought proper, have changed theconstution of theee colonies He has referred to Australia and Jamaica, but I ask him if the constitution in those colonies Wii " not changed in accordance with the wishes of the people ? Was it not done in Ja- maica when it became necessary for Imperial interests to destroy the constitution after a re- bellion and bloodshed? Was it not done in Kccordanoo with the wishes of the people? and therefore, there is no paralirl in the caat-i whatcfet. We -nd that tiiis country occupies a very different position from Great Britain— the tonstit-tion of the K\tter hss grown to maturity V J, iegrees— it has reached its present positio j by pitecedent and custom with unlimited power; but ■ constitution like ours is of a very different character, and therefore the ansiogy which ho has drawn fiora the repeal of the Corn Lnws and the Catholic Emancipation is without applica- tion to the case we are now considering, Our constution is based upon that charter whici' the Hon. Attorney General referred to, anu although it may have been materially changed ^by despatches from the Colonial Secretary— although it may be altered by ''^Ih' ..-tf?^ u' ill charter from theCrovn i.».!»- the people WJthont the consent of quSbn oi K'"and'n?'^° ?''"'' '^ ^''e tor ft 1«»* *• "'' ™'neralB, which havn Of the% o°pi oMhiB^r^'?'' *^5 »"«»tfon you that before th«au«-H/^- ^' ^" '^''l people of Nova 8coti» h.i?° """ '^"'«''' tl»e Perial Parliament and thJ^'r'' *" *'"''I"'- der of their riehtu *r h. " "^'*"• » •""««!- the decieion of learned teirr*'' V *'"'' •t the initanoe of tirif^u ^"'""^^•*«''en principle Sid down by the ATor'np".^;/' '^' IS fairly estabJiehed ♦K.f ^'.'o"ey General longed to thrCrownLj!,."":" «»"n»ry be- •bout the question 7fM"'"'' '?''^ » ''ord only referrWthe Cirfl LiL"' *''""*'^' ^ Sime'in boTh^aS" ^Th„°T''? ^°'^«'"> '"« «he reads thus •-- ^^^ *^^°'"°° *" question fir;; qVeStiot" e%Te"?f ^V"-'^''*^*"'* ^"^ Crown doe« not hold th.i-^'°'°? ''*•* ^^^e of the Province of Nota%lf*%"'^.'°'''"»l'" of i»8 subject. ther?8et^?Hf" ^'"' '^? *'«"««' the minee and minerals n'„'''^'^^ "^'"^ ^^at absolutely vested"", he ^^T''?'"""' *"« "o might dispose of them in rT^°' "« ^'^"t ^^ should think fit wSi?»« "r °?"ner as he oretion. We therefore «rA7 ''■"!* ^° ^" ^is- grant of all the Lines and m^^'T'^^"* '^e dividual for sixtTSelrs ,«°'"J' *° »° '°- 'Tr?V''lp'«Svr? "''^ *'^ ""^"« thS;?h*°t^'S; -"J; «« °« '«"on for Ie»se mirf ., or to be m\rU°/' ?' ""y «"»*- or would be s Jbj^c ' t'o ^e*'revokeV«r '^''"'y* "'f ^"lenavil. or any other caW"'' *'"^''°- In conclusion they state To- on the whole case rest, ,,«;„ *?"'* opinion that the m--- *nd lil, ?°" ''^^ Principle longed tc in^n/h S'° ^"""°n be- trolled d .^ri Ir'^'"/"*® ""d "neon, were the, ano^hi?"/^^^"'' ^'^''t they tl.e Crow. ,oWI " ^^^ P'«""re of cite cases upon he seJer.?!? '^ «"«"?' to us.butuponthegLeraii'n" •.'''"" P"* '° myd'el'ilrra e JSe^o\?r 'T' ^«°''- this country i. held « thl °?''<'l"8ion that ty of the CrowS'' They safJl^T P^''^'"' passed a charter srlntt^^ jhe Crof , has certain rights, and int .! ^ *"•''"« °ou» try der that charter for VhnrT'''"^'*""*'. up- land to overthrow our .^""'°'^'>' of i^ns- the consent of the people"""*'""""" ^''♦'""^ to .Kw ?"; pTeJ of ^'1f. ""«!'»" reference attention toCoLe of r ' n*' *'^»'"i''^ our one knows tLT'^tZ.^T''- ^"''^ elightsst resemblanoT tn th„ ^*" "^^^ '^m we occupy Th,7 „ ? "'f position which dent Parlfament the v?"^ '"A'' "» '"•^«P<'n- not repre«,ntS in alJX"^ "s people ^erp Oonaequently. VheS h« h^!"^ *'^*'""'' o'^- jf. wnen the bon. member produ- DEBATEg AND rROOBBDINOS ?h'at"h'iJg''rordi?'unSbfe^ ^^^ 'J^ --• I several references to th«TT •*?*„•'«"'' "2»de one would suppose hat he had"' f,'''/'' "« den, become perfect vhorrifi^H' f ' ""^ » '^«<»- institutions. He told ti. 7^/.^ «tdemoo ratio that he had alwavs kli u^*'"''"*^ <^- ""'! of Tories^ r h/.- . '^^ ^'™ "" the Torv ' leader of'the oonoslHr*'" ^^""^ ^^^ bonffi associated with tKi^° 'P°-''° o^ " being country ThaVe !&""]''• P^^^ «' 'hi, owes the posUbn thich h« 0'^'""°°^ 'h*' be '•flourishiDrpracUce" to .T'lP'u''' "^ '»»« to the influence of th.t J **'"''' ^<^ referred. seeking to ISvance and 1'°'^''^''"' ''« *«« regard most hS' Z -S?.^ P^"^*""*** ♦« ofthepeoDle *''*■ ""^ 'nterestg mir^o'nKe?,".*.Ve°'i"',:J^J» 'bat ad- gence"of thTmetrinon7'w V"^ '"'""i- ««; naumz,;, ab^ut the weaSf ^T>«"d pence of Halifax L«lMhf'"' ??<^ '"*«"'• tcUigenoe of Nova sLVi **'® ''**"b and in- metropoHs/ loan ?nll*°°°°''"i"*«>- whom I resnect hnt »k J *u*''." oommun ty people oorae'^tio conTact with 'T'^'^''^ '^' of Halifax, I feel it i« ffl« Z^^. \\^ .influence sent.tives sboulj stind ,?. j'^;' ']"''' «P"- mterests and ?ronound tL?"^ «dvooate the we do to-day : Sarbefo 5* r'""'*'?' "''•«b changed or^overfu .?'" ^• '^ °S^^^^^^^ ij necessary to consult -, ft, '"'^"mbent and .«. of Ih, 0,?.K Sflf "","•'» '!■« PM- OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLK. I 79-^ yon whtt eonfederation meant, in reference to the intereetg of the Provinoe. I believe in my heart, having an abiding faith and oon- fidenoe in the British public, and believing EngHnd to be governed by able and honor- able men, that when they come to know the poaition of our country, and the viewi of its representatives, and vrben they are told that they have acted on false information, no mattrr how valuable they may regard the xin\o:\ in Ihe light of Imperial interests, the British Parliament will acknowledge that a wrong has been done, and will resolve to meet out to us the same measure of justice and fair play which has been shown to Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland. On what principle can the British Govern- ment keep Nova Suotia in this Confedera- tion ? If she is to be united against her wish- ei, why should nut Newfoundland be drag* ged in 7 It would be doubly inaulting, when we represent our views respectfully to Eng* Und, that she should coerce us into a Union simply calculated to alienate our feelings to> wards the mother country. It would be un- fair in me to do more than lay my views briefly before the House after the length of time that this debate has occupied. The hon. member who preceded me has left me but lit' tie to say, having met many of the argu- ments which I was prepared to answer. I will not therefore travel over matters with which every member must be familiar. I would say, however, to the hon. member f^r laverness, that if he propounds, for a mo- ment, the idea that the people of this country intend to depart from the position they have taken; if he believes for an instant that we are misrepresenting the views of our consti- tuents, he is greatly mistaken. It was said in the Houto of Commons that a reaction bad taken place in this country in favor of Con- federation. That is not the case. I have conversed with my constituents up to a re> cent period, and I can assure you that if it were possible to intensify the disgust of the people at this Union which has been forced on us, that 'Usgnst has been increased and intensified. The people have seen, sir, since the passage of the Act. during the late Ses- sion, that the interests of Nova Scotia are in the hands of men who, however faithtul in the dischnrge of their duties, are unable to resist successfully the majority tbat would trample on their rights. One of the amend- ments says that the Act has not been long enough in operation to judge fairly of its re- sults. That reminds me of locking the stable door after the steed has been stolen; it is too late to seek for relief when tu° Act has be« come irrevocable. Now is the time for the people to act, and nobly are they doing so. Nobly will they continue to act— fnithfully and l.iyally — to the Crown, but with the most solemn and serious earnestness that ever af- fected the minds of a high-spirited people. They are determined to resist at every SAcri* floe but that of their allegiauce. Is it to be wondered ft that such is the oppositi.'>tJ to the scheme 7 Is there a man here who, in the silence of hiB own chamber, has not had his Llocd boiled by the remembrance of the man- ner in which hb r'.nd his countrymen hsi been treated? True it ii that one boon hat been extended to Nova Scotia by this Confedeiation A '-■~ the power to tax ourselves. Precious bleti- ing ! Ungrateful Nova Sootians ! Why do you not go down on your marrow bones, and give thanks for this beneficence? Ah, by the way there is another boon : we get 80 cents a head to console us for our poaition When I contrast this pittance with the re« venues which have been taken from us, I am reminded of the man who, after stealing a pig, gave away the tail in charity to satisfy bis conscience. It was said that the delegates were going to England to ask the British Government to adopt republican institutions, but I think that it would be hard for the hon. member to shew the act congtitutioual and right by either British or republican author- ties. In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I have to nay that I sincerely desire a repeal of the union, and I trust that the gentlemen, who- ever they may he, who are entrusted with the delicate and responsible duty of going to the authorities of England, and of placing the case of oar people before them, asking them under all the circumstances to restore us to our original position, and to repeal so much of the act »a aifects Nova Scotia, wiM do their duty faithfully and with a due sense * of the responsibility resting upon them. I well know that the eyes of Nova Scotia will be upon them, the heart of the country is wi'h them, the prayers of thousands will aecend to Heaven for the accomplishment of their object. I ask the delegates to go firmly and indo- pendently, and to tell our Sovereign that the people of this country are true and faithful to her person and her throne,— that we eiill cherish and revere the mother country around which so many historic recollections cluster, — that there is not a Christian mother within the land who does not teach her child to lisp the name of our Gracious Sovereign with ad- miration and respect- but that nothing wiil satisfy the people of this country until they are placed in the position which their honor and interests require by the repeal of an Act passed in defiance of their wishes, and in de- rogation of their rights. The debate was adjourned. Mr. Blanchars called attention of the Government to the necessity of giving imme diate relief to the distressed fishermen in In- verness County. The House adjourned. *■' THtmsDAY, Feb. 13, i8ii8. The Horse met at n o'clock. Hon. Peov. Bkcr-^taey laid on tha table u memorial on the subject ot the Horlicnltural Society; ako a money petition. Mr. Campukli, presented [a money petition from Rev. J, Chisl'olm and others, for aid for certain distressed ilshermcn. Dr. MuERAT present '.d a petition from Dr. 11. Munro and overte' i" "5 tribute's wt'^ufdelaT"'"^'^'^^'^''^ '^ '^'^• beu\"r t? w 'fbefor ^'**"'^ •••** ^' ^""''l b^ of the dtv n r rfn ^ "8«ged on the pan subject ^ preparing a repoit on^he ir:rlH"r '^^^^^^^^^ - ' 'i-t Mr. NoBTHup mentionpil th.f »i.» .i,«herih,,„„„„n„ ,„ cum",,""?;;; It WM tke intindon lo .djoarn lb" HouL Jor,DB ih, Beit ..ek «iilil ibe.ui„ep I'J Hod. Atri. Qwmi tcpUjj ,i„ ^^ |_^j^ DEBATES AND PBOCEEDINOa DBBAC« «V„"Jf„««.-., .„. MB. NOSTHCP'S SPEHCU. follow,^.-K V»'MJ<^l'««3ed the House a, ment, and I truit if T .h n °'^«™''a«'ra»8. are now anxious to learn IhaT'^hi^f T^" condition of this country wUlbn hpf.l" "" pac no- Iftrfrplv in , ». * "** oefore en- stances I fi^i th.V ^°'^^'' ^^^*^ circum- K b^°t•e1br&£T°"°'»• S". u"'of°Sf'„7''" '•' eo> up™ ih *i?. Sr£.ps&ru»t"u'rd\'„'.t had becoaie a most imnoBsihl^ e^Jvernment sssfdT.trsiH''?"-^^^^^ all the rio-h*. »„S^ •' .?*P*t-'e ot exerc s ne ^r'"^ ^^J'l"^ wa^'dri?en1rtVf'N.S? ?or'l Kti° ^.'n^rf''''^ *'^!!'°e for a longSe -., r-,Ef. oui. Tv.hai was aone 7 The que8tion"ol .j::^vA; ■«■ OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 81 connection with the Itiugdom of Sardinia was submitted to the people at the polle. Then, when Venice was handeil over ti> Italy, what was done? The question was deci.ied by the people at the polls. The United States hns often been referred to hy the hon. Judse in Equity for precwlent", — whRt happpned in Roxbury, in MiirHaclinsi tts, a .year or possrf.? Koxbury had for mmf. time enjoyed a covpo- v\tion of its own; a hill was, however, past- fd tnncxine tb« city to Boston, und it canie before the Governor. He asked if the pnople of Roxbury had expresfcd an ojjiuion on the subject, the reply was in the negative, and he accordingly refused to assent to the mea- sure. A£;ain, in Gerranny, wc saw that the States which were conquered by Prusbia were consulted in the formation of their constitu- tion, and were allowed to vole themselves into the North German Confederation. Take a»ain the case of St. Thomas. The Danish Government have sold the Island to the Uni« ted States, and the other day the question was submitted to the inhabitants at the polls, and the whole people, with a few exceptions, voted in favor of the transfer. Is it fair, then, that the people of Nova Scotia should be treated with less consideration than Eng» lishmen were a thousand years ago— than Venetians or Neapolitans were more recently, or the people of St. Thomas are to-day ? Can the hon. gentleman justify the course pur- sued by himself and friends in view of these precedents ? Actions speak louder than words, and these gentlemen told us by their actions that Nova Scotians were not equal in intelli- gence to the people I referred to. I consider that a more tyrannical act was never commit* ted on any people than the transfer of the rights and revenues of Nova Scotia to the control of Canada. Now what has been Dr. Tupper's public career from its commencement ? Ho went to the country first on the cry of Railways— that the county would be ruined by their con- Btraotion. Bet when he came to this House he ran perfectly mad in building Railways. Next he got up the Retrenchment scheme, by which he pledged himself most solemnly to lave ^79,000 in the expenses of the GoTern- ment; but the moment he got in powe", he indulged in every species of cxtravaeaoce, and ran the country fearfully into debt, in- creasing the public expenditure by $141,000. His course throughout cannot be character- ized otherwise than as a political swindle. As respects Mr. Archibald, I confess I am sorry to h". obliged tc feel towards him as I do, I supported him for many years, and Iremtm- ber when you. Mr. Speaker, opposed him in Colchester. I fought against you; but where is he to-day ? He hai fled to Canada amid the execrations of his people, and there holds a high position in violation of all constitu- tional usage, and wielding the patronage of this country in a most unconstitutional man* ner. You, sir. on the other hand, fought for your country's rights with a fidelity that is honourable to you. and I aiji proud to see you ocaupying the Chair of this House with so much dignity and ability. If Mr. Archi- bald had adhered to his fiiends, he would never have been driven out of Colchester; but when be iurued traitor to the people, he was 11 beaten by the Colchestar boy deipite all the influence and patronage in his hands. I do not wish ti say anything harsh about gen» ilemen who sat in the last House, but it is impossible not to feel indif^nant when one thinks of their unfaithfulness to their coun< try. Dr. Tupjier, it is reported, is to be made UailwLy C/Ommissioner, at a large salary. Mr. Archibald hss been provided for, and if we look to New Brunswick, we find Mr. TiUey provided for. These gentlemen have salaries of $5000 a year. Mr. Gray has a snug place of $4000, in connection wKh revising the laws. Mr. McMillan, the only New Bruns- wioker who voted with Mr. Tilley on the Tariff, has been made Post Office Inspector. Therefore, you see that these gentlemen iake very good caie of their friends, and I think the same remarks apply to the gentlemen who lately administered the government of this country. I remember talking to one of the members of the late House, and asking him " what about Con- federation?" "I am the father of the House," was the reply. " I will keep them all right." But when the vote was taken on the question, that gentleman was found vo- ting agaiust his country, and now he sits in the other end of the building. Another gen- tleman told me, " I am going to England, « and Tupper has promised not to bring up the quettion in my absence;" but he too voted for the measure, and sits in the other branch of the Legislature. I do not believe that one of those gentlemen who thus changed their sides could get a constituency to-morrow in Nova Scotia. I remember reading somewhere of an English politician whom the Govern- ment wanted to buy, and what was his au' swer? "I can earn sixpence a day, and X can live on it." If we had more men of that stamp in the last House, this country would not have been sold. We now find, as I have said, the Home Secretary administering the patronage of this Province, although in his present position be is without a constituency and without the confidence of his country. That is a flagrant insult to the people of No- va Scotia. I have been told of a gentleman who had been doing the duties of the Post Master at Tatamagoucbe, but instead of appointing him ; permanently, Mr. Archi- bald had a Confederate appointed in hiH place. A great deal has been said about Ncvsr Brunswick, but what is the feeling there now ? I have been told by a person who un- derstands the feeling of that province that four out of five would bo returned against Confederation if an election were held there to»morrow. Much has been said about jjersons holding annexation proclivities, and in 'bit oonn«c- tiou let me read an extract from the speech of the Marquis of Normanby when the Unioti Act «7a8 under aonsideration in th« House of Lords. He satcl : — " If the Nwrth American Colonies felt themselves a^i« to stand alone, and showed their anxiety ito form tbimselves into an in- dependent oojiiltpy, or eveo t© amalgamate ■with the Unim Stctes,b04ftd not think it would dP. m«^# '^esist i^ desire." _ lask this Houic and "country if, after a deolarwiiou of ts«t kind from the aoble Mai?- 82 m i Mui people exhibited mo7e dear J 'Zn'tuL" there was not an old womRn »k , u . ■"' pence but inveiled \l i^t ^^^ ^^'^ * «'^- or tanada I reoogn ze them a« foii^-.' r> -i ishaubjeotB — hiif r ^o„i fu . ""ow Brit- Gold win sS o5 1 y^o fhirschoof * « ' , '^ lion was given to these statements in oimL Joyaiiat principles. brineinL' win. k;.;. u- f laves and household good^ and.PHu , ^^ that township, which hrreuresented „ ,hi^ STv' ^''°S elected to theTr t rcpresema \,'\}° *^® Canadian Parliament of iRfii \i^ and Monsieur Cartier. The latter found if very convenient to lay his gun down when h« was surrounded by British tro°H° Now because we are desirous of getting- rid of ** tyrannical act. we are to be oafled anne^ ationiatB. , Mr McGeo has a gmfdeal to sav" r'hfr%K^-\ii|rB^££ any such event, for Nova ScS fa able to stand alone if she gets rid of this detested DEBATES, AND PROCEEDINGS Confederation. All we w&nt ;. ♦„ i- die under the Brftiih fif^ V I -l" ''" "d succeed in arSnli^hlnl' r"' '', '° '^^ ""^ ieo where thfssS on n?/T-''' *° «''»» McGee ctlls t wHl o.?rr f "'»'?°' "" ^*'-- that .his iho J CoifeSlnn in^ ^'^l^^ '» to exist, will Hriff i„. lw°*l;'* •'"n'-inues Under ConT^derluV tey^^'n^c^anlur'*'"- the QreJ 'no* K;°«-;r^ ^' *^ ««"»" f- to speak of r.tcntlemn^*"^"7- ^ow I wish in oharce of" onr fil^''° ia« been placed breakwat^'&r I ^i^'''^. JT^^°»««. Mitchell. Alark vnn ^i! ? ^^ ^^"°- ^eter that position perftctlv^nS^'"*]''"''" ^°^<^» reopl^ of LrZ%o\ ni' .°t '•^^ much about Mr Mitchpir r f ° °^* '"'O" honorable man but r I ' l"^"^" ''* ''* »« unparliamentarv in \\ ? °"' ,*'^'' •» ^« therefro TabHi, sav nnfh-^""'' '^''«''«' a'^'^ which irntended o'reS?^lt"is w5?r^^'^'=' however, that Mr MiU;ii I ^*" ^"°'^''> interested in paesin/ /w , *", ""*" °>»°'' Brunswick an'^verf recent v'hn''°"- " ^^'^ to his cons ituenfa r 1 1° ^ ^l '"''*^ * ^'S't not in vervsirnn- *•"''" *'' • States would be 2.iS ^^'jtf " ,„ ^« U"''^^' smail duty to meet thf r ln^!w '^""'"f? on » than that we could m.'f h '*-^''' ^'"^ '""'"« now find New Brun.wt^*'^ expected. We "igly about rhisTidff'tnf'v? i°^ ■'^^°««'^- tion of ID per cen" 7^ri% i ^** ^''^ imposi- heavily upi^rthl PrSet'f, t1,t ^'" -"^ us. for the fact was thll «k '? ^•♦"^case with ties being tX?nV5 ha^L^'l^^-T. A'?! OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 83 railway tax three per cent additional, the new tariff ia a reduction of one half per cent of the former impositions. Now, herd miiyeay a word about taxation . I fimi, jreferrinp to 1866, that we imported from Canada 14,898 barrels flour. Prom the United States, flour and meal, 360,718 barrels, and 174,078 bushels of corn, which at the present rate of duty, would amount to $107,.087.30. The increase under the present tariff' over the ten per cents of 18GG would be $i246,412. I t*ke this year's importation as a fair index to our trade, because that trade was in that year — the Ust of Reciprocity — runninsr in iti natural channels. The duty collected that year on flour was ©28,685. 70. I believe that this country will never be pros- perous until we Rct Reciprocity back. Upon wine, under the Dominion tariff', ten cents a gallon is charged — ^jutt the same amount as on corn. One of the papers told us that we could warehouse corn free. An importer of corn can put it into a warehouse, and then he can grind into meal,— ho pays a duty on the meal and all ho gets is the bran free. That is an illustration of the results of this Confede- ration Act, which gives to the Canadians the meal and leaves us the bran. The list of free goods contains 274 articles, on any one of which the people of Nova Scotia would prefer paying a duty than on bread. Such as cabi- nets of antiquities, coins, gems, drawings, paintings, busts, &o. Then they were asked to protect our coal and to give our fishermen a bounty, but they refused, although it was well known that our coal trade was perfectly stagnant from the want of a market. Is it surprising, in view of this state of things, that trade should (tjnd still 7 Many persons have come to me, and said, we can- not pay you all we owe you, for bread is so high, and we must have it for our famiiiep. They ask, " what is the meaning of all this?" We had always plenty of bread before this. "Loyalty," they say, "is a very good thing, but it will not feed our children, and we can» not send them hungry to bed." That is the feeling throughout the country; the people are ready to do anything to get back their own institutions, but it will test their loyalty when starvation is staring them in the face. Then there is the Increase in the rate of inter- est. The people who have money like co get the most they can for it, and I have heard of gentlemen who are preparing to call in mort- gages in order to get a higher rate of inter- est, as soon as the usury laws are so far amended as to allow them to charge it. We have heard something said about giving bounties to fishermen, but how is the taritf affecting our West Indian business which is one of our principal branches of trade. The sugar duties must very materially interfere with that trade. Mr. Jones showed most ela- borately, and in a manner that was creditable to himself and the constituency that elected bira, at Ottawa, how it will operate against our fisbermen, and interfere with commerce generally; but all ho said was of no avail in the Canadian Parliament, for Mr, iledpath, and other Canadian refiners, wanted the tariff" framed to suit their interests. It will be per- ceived, by the Canadian tariff', that sugars pay epeoific duties, wiiiuU are (jraduaud au« cording to quality, and it is well known that, in ascertaining the quality, frauds of every kind may be perpetrated. The propo- sal of Mr. Jones was to levy a specific duty of a cent per pound, and an ad valorem duty on the original cost. Let it be remembered, too, that notwithstanding this high tariff, the Finance Minister estimates a deficit for this year of from two to three millions. The people of Canada are whiskey drink- ers, while rum is the principal article in the nature of spirituous liquors consumed here. They want to introduce their article into this Province, and that is the reason why the tar- iff is arranged as it is. The twiff" has raised the duty on rum to eighty cents, while that on whiskey is 60 cents, thus aiming an» other direct blew at the West India trade. A great deal has been said about the wealth of Canada; but there can be no doubt that 320,- 000,000 of the debt which she takes into the Confederation was made up of the deficiencies of ten years when the revenues were inade- quate tomi.,t their expenditures. I remem- ber hearing some years ago' of one of the townships of Canada being advertised for sale to pay its debts, and I am afraid if we do not soon get out of this Confederation we shall be in the same position. A few words about county taxation. Take the county of Middle- sex, Canada, forinstince, where the rate was in 1866 $2 31 on every $IQQ. In Halifax, in the same year, it was 28 cents on the $100,— this rate being, I believe, a fair criterion for the whole Province. How is this? Thejc are many charges laid on the Canadian towns and villages which here are paid out of the general revenue. We were told that the farmers would find a better market for their produce under Confederation, whereas the fact is the Canadians are running in their pork, butter and other produce and under- selling them, It may be said that this is all to the advantage of other classes, but the fact it that the consuming classes are now unable to buy even at low prices, and thus the markets are injured for our farmers with- out any corresponding benefit being realised by others. Again, look at the extravagance prevailing in the public service in Canada. Reading the records of the old Canadian Par- liament before Confederation, what do we find? They had 9 clerks and messengers to every 8 members of the House, whilst we have or^y seven in all. The sessional allowance of tnese clerks and meseeogers actually amount- ed to more than the pay of all the members We have been told that this Dominion is a great country, and that we may expect it to be populated with immigrants. I saw by a paper that 1678 immigrants had arrived, in one week, at a Canadian city; but how many of them do you suppose remained? Just thirty; the others went over to that ill-go- verned and ill-taxed country that people are 80 much afraid of. It is my moit earnestdc* eire that we may gei repeal. We see in Great Britain the results of a forced Union, and o f an attempt to govern a people against their will. Sorry I am to see such a state of things prevailing in the mother country; but the time has arrived when it is admitted on all sides that something must be done. I pray that cuob a slate of thbgfi as prevaila ia Ire 84 I the merchant; aid ba„ke?of»hf. ^"^ '^"''^ ty ihould count for Bomethfnl' °?'°""'''- the mercantile chiiM oM&^ *"'' '""<'"« Unioniets very scarce LI 1°" ^"1 finn»nyofthn v«Mn» ^ "" ^ *''""' " ''"""«'> tha hnn ,; u 'x. '?"■' addrew myaelf to ine Hon. member for Inverneas anrl r .Lii fiilpnf 'PI, » .■! ,-*t"^''' >o»t we would ait Sa9a«^s eat and ,eard the hon. member uMn^thesJ and B,m:lar expresslona, it broueh^to m« remembrance rbo aayinp/ol sfSpeare ; "" -rf.Mom he Rtniirsj -m-X smilos In such a sort Thatctl>l«s to The hon. member challeni»p'J im < ,r„k.i I am not afr.id to meet Sherl'f . tTface' of .,„ /7. '"^^'F'^"''. but,«8 it is tKid''«nt eth ' ' llnT. 11 ;K^^•;"' ^•^^ mouth ap«ak afrai 1 f. h?,n' '^*' ^ '^'^^''^ c rtainly be airai.i ti bu in his company in a dark Uno ^aiJ'^f'''' '^ be Ve behtnd me. *He of .f~HTi ■ 0^'"' "'^ Pictouand wasproSd t^ n \n7u ■ ° ^*y ''• "'»t tbe people ofPic- tou, or the large majority of them are nnf o™ui"« ""7,^1 f'""' P°'"'°° ^^'^^"^ now ou.upieH. It he has no resp:ct for himsplf nr. h.3 portion, l.eahould have some respect for the memory of some who bor. his namp Many years ago who was it but o,^ named Jotham Blanchard who dietinguiehed himself 80 much by hia labors in the Sand inthfl s^xoTZrl tH^°^ "''^ in8tit^utfon"Jto" t'hl state m Wbich they were a year or two aeo ? \Vh„ was one pf the fathers of KpS ble Government?; Could that man ^sefrom h.8 grave and belold that at the dead ho,^ tors'^his' btfhei^'^""".^ .other poli'cllte fu!^lo •*•..- ^'^ •'°'"«<* in bartering awav Ms kind ed^ ThV\°'' ''""'<^.'^« ^'"«»» '"^ ciB Kinarea i ihe hon. member eiiokn &icn 1 woflrp^'^.t'l^ *'^"''' "Preaeltativeai- 1 wondered at the assurance of the mVn mtkmg auch a remark.-doeahe meaS to «? haP8\Z"ch"nn 7-"' h^-n^^Pn". wUh per^ naps a patch on his coat, mav nnt ho ti.\, equal oi the man who wears hfs broadcbfh and beaver hat and rides in a carriage ? * ':'^>« '■«"' '"s '^«t the Ruinea'd stamp, A man's a man for ,V that." I Bay I wondered at his uaingauch an exnre. amn m reference to Colchesrer. whose fnha- bitants are equal not only in intelligence but m wealth and prosperity to tS nf .«« «tl»«rj>"t of the ProV'ncl I iui "ow t.k? Jhe liberty of referring to one nri.^"."!!!," OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 85 vhiob the hon. member made ia reference to me. K«i uid : ** The (ame hen member told a remarka- ble thing, that he had iccn the enecine go out of (tight,— I ha« KC '♦ s^ ou* «' »'Sht very often, and I do not I §ee that any great ditfi- calty would reeult even if it did bo at every halfmile." It is eaid that the tvppretsio veri is as oriminal aa the tugge$tio fulti. Now what I said was thtt I had neen the ensino e;o out of sight in a distance of half a mile on a atraiiiht line The hon. member also iold us that the Fictou Railroad was the bett in Brv- tiah Amcric*. but I find the Commissioner of Kail ways says in bis report : "If the gradients and curvatures, owing to the rugged featuutt of the oouDtry, are not of so favorable a char* aoter SB those of some other lines." Who does not kuow that the very qualities which render a railroad a superior one arettraight- neeH of line and lightenness of grades. As regards the fronfujie of Piotou harbor, I stated to the Ilout^ that a larger nmount of land bad been takea at Fisher's Grant than was necessary for the Provincial Railroad; but that what was worse they had taken the land between the terminus and the light- bouie I shewed also that it was impossible that thQ^ water lots which had been taken could have been intended for railway pur- poses. The hon. member for Inverness said that the leases contained a reservation, but I am strongly inclined to believe that this is only fbr the purpose of deceiving the pub- lic. The hon. member, however, told us first that he knew nothing of the matter, but he afterwards admitted that the leases bad been given by his own government, bo that one of thtse statements must be wrong. Another assertion I made was that it was customary for the offer of the water lot to be made to the owner of the adjacent Ian J, but that that usage had been violated recently in re- ference to Piotou. I ttated that a number of individuals had bought land at Fisher's Grant to build a marine slip, and had made application for the water lot in front. The reply they received was that no water lotj could be granted without consulting the owners of the soil, and I have Mr. Fairbanks' letter to that effect; and adding those indiv- iduals would be heard before any grant was made. Will it be believed that after that, the very lot in question was granted without no- tification to the owner of the soil. I wish to read another extract from the hon. member's speech, and to put the House and the coun- try right upon another most material point : 1 made reference to the Reciprocity Treaty, and shewed that had it not been for the ac» tion of Canada we would probably have bad the treaty yet, and what is said in reply to that?: "He told us that the abrogation of the Reciprocity Treaty was largely due to the local duties imposed by Canada. Did he not know that while that Treaty lasted the Cana- dians could not and did not impose a farthing of local taxes?" I will now show from the best authority that can be laid before Par- liament that my remarks in that particular were correct and just, and for that purpose I will quote from Mr. Derby's Report on the — — -jjii x:.i.. _._. j.icaKjr. ing free between the two countries: grain. flDur and breadstufTa, timber, cotton wool, vegetables, and indeed almost all unmann- faotned goods. On psge 25, Mr. Derby says :— Whlla the treaty was pemllni;, Lord EIkId, the Brl- tiah miiii.*ter ht Washington, all-gtd that • CanaJa had alwaya adopted the nooit liberal commercial policy with respect to the United SUt^a, ai well in re(rard to the comn.i.rce ihrooKh its canali na In regard t; Ih'J adinisaion of miouUctared iroods ccminf from thia country, and if the natunil produi:ti (f that i-r untry (Canada) »h( aid be Bdmltt>?d duty (.e, that (lovern- inerit would b« wi liiig to carry out atlll furth'r the same liberal policy already pursued towards the matiufacturis of the United atates." The treaty Itaelf reciied th»t the p^rtlfs •* wfrr Jesircus ai to n |ul»te the couimetoe and navigation betwuin their resiectlve t^/tltoriea and people, and more eipfcialiy betwe"n her Majeity'a poaaesalona lu North America and the Unlt'd i^tatts, in such manner aa to rendor the aaroe reciprocally beneftclU and tatitfictory." With lh;«e iaientiona, thoa expreaaed, thit treaty WJS executed and commerce commenced. When tho treaty took effect by the PrcalJent'a pro- clamatiof, March n 1S55 the duties in Caniida were very moderate, but 5 per cent, on «ome commodili 'a, and 10 per cent, on othera, but Ui percent, on i_ur boota, Bhoea. leather, harne8sea,"and many of our ether protiuetaj but within a year alter the treaty Canada began to advar.crt these duties, and by 1869 had raised them 02i pe' cent,, on one class, and 100 per cent, ou another, tmbraolng cur chitf manufactures, and most of them were thus excluded and ths sale of oti era re- duccd The Committee of Congreas on Commerce in 1863 complained in their report that the duttea levied on our manufactures and o^iier products had checked their exportation from the United States to Canada that our commerce with that country reached lis height in 1856 and then b gan to decline with the ad- vance of datiea, that our exporta which paid dntiea to Canada declined from $7,981,284 in 1859, the year af- ter the treaty was adopted, to $4 1S7,816 in 1880, a decline of 47 per cent, in four years only, while the whole amount of our Canadian commerce declined 35 per cent, from 1858, '•" the duties were low, to 1862 when they were high. The committee suggest that if Canada required mote revenue, her attempt to raise it by new duties on our manufactures was a failura.— It effected nothing but iheir exclusion. The com- mittee in this connection draw attention to the fact that while Canada urgea that ahe waa obli .ed to rtjise dutiea for revenue, she has eatablished two great free porta— the port of Qaspe on the Gulf of St. I.Awrence, with a frontage of 1,200 miles on stiores frequented by our fishermen, and another extending for 1 000 miles from the Sault 8t. Mary, at the outlet of Lake Superior, along the shores of Huron and Superior, wh'^re our settlers and seamen engaged in the grow- ing transportation of the lakes may be tempted to buy goods and evade our dutiea. If legitimate trade be the object or Canada, she ahould reduce her duties, when thty diminish revenue, and if fair reciprocal trade 18 desirtd, should she tempt our mariners, minera ana settlers to evuile cur duties, and compel us to estab- lish porta and (iustora ■: oases at great expenae upon a long frontier ? , . If Great Britain .intaina Gibraltar to expend her trade on the coa^i of Spain, must we have a Gibraltar on our frontiers also ? , Our committee complain of the change from speciUo t ) ad valortm duties on foreign goods, which are based on prime cost in gold, if they come by the St. Liwrence or by the Grand Truok, a British Railway, but are assessed on cost, freight, and charges if not prices in currency it they come tita Boston or »tw York. This the committee deem an evas.cn of tne treaty. They complain also of discriminating toils on theWelland Canal, by which goods deftined ma Oawego and Ogdensbnrg for New \ork or Boston pay tenfold the tolls required on Roods divertf d from our ports to Quebec or Montreal. They cite the reports of Messrs. Hatch & Taylor to our Treasury Department, in whichjthey favor the extension of free trade. They ..r... »n (hA trade with the maritime Provinces imder IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) // ''V ^' A ^^ % 1.0 li 1.25 M 2.2 M 1.8 U 111.6 ^ V. <^ / ^5 W >^ e". ^1 'V > >^ i?^' C/l Photographic Sciences Corporation 23 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, NY. UaSO (716) 873-4503 4^, 86 II f the l. « which «nd .et forth In their Rtiolvein^l '"'"«!'»'>' •"'»«'! ln«ton. that "the leriiS.fIf!T«''° ^'« *' Wash- to ITie treaty, w,. .X',"? of i?",*^* 'ub.eqaent meaning, and that an l7o|»Hn°'''' ""« "•'ent und had been adonted in(.„!i i * "^""^ exclusive poliov e5^ctofthetSbl"&^'° •'«'"'y th. nS the United St,te. have "ir„''"";\°" ."»* P"'<"'«» rtutics and tolU imnoVM t^ i ' ^^ ''' <«'»crlinlnatlnif from Onnadlan ^.Trkn, .. ' """"''' ' '"' ^""ed »'«"! the'ti^a.Tl'decuJedtoSo';^'^ ""•" ' -'-•^<» "> ^'cr the treaty did a< ?e,p4,3,V aSfh". ' ' P'^^^Bme Htapleg f f OuDada wltiT .k ' "ulhorlse us to buy the but it I. ao^'^S-rr'^St'";, 'V--'""* ot New Ungf.nd' "mlas.on «„d that Ca„ada h«i^ nT *. ''••'Kernus I'.'e.igfs. The minister ffln "'" "-edeenied her ;'ut« they were t«in,thee,clu,ionof thefai,lf"?T "' Q'*"* Bri The ral.,i„er urge, that the flA "^ '^'' ^''"«'« States 8i«>t8t MaryuVtoenXw'.hTlem a"J""""> few set'Iers on rhese A^Jil „ • **"'^Mi but the "In^ulus.andOanaZ in et^witf '*'«''''« »<> "uch reipect t. the Kreat maLim o "the k^' I.'?*"' P^^' "" wtiOieexpreMoMectwsTTrfL u "t^""K ""y * treaty tolls and duife. have been » . '^'scrimlnatln;^ right tojmpose .hem ° """°*'=" «°'l claims the anyp.!;*ro/tUnbnd'^tr'^r- <'•'"■»->•-. '•'ii'dly in tra,le, r-ealth a°^ l^n ."/l" '""' K^"*" .«"nu»| commerce with us i^f, Pppmalion, that her ''>r« the tre«iv; tliat she hi. "^'J"^'} "« """Oot be- ,";":i»l'-r to favor our p?cd^,eH"''l ^f'/": 'he British ic.r importation withj^b „ 'fit"",'., h ' ^"^ ''*«''«'» '"ember al °o ,"^1 In ^ ^'■°°"*'- The bon. 'be feeling y"Hi,ift.h^' "' bcliev« tbat lii^ repeal of the Troatv fh "{""V^ ^" »!••» raid, and he thre J hu '^" '\° ^'- ^'^an's Halifax for the r con J %t" «° 'h^.^i'-^ene of kaown tbat the Phf«f ♦ ^S * '^"' '" '* oot well States duriUX;\V''±*''^''l^ ^'^"»^"'» ;ni.ier with thoce SU.es ,« fl.iTf ' ^,'''°°*J^^l t" bo a^JnioDist. I am wl^i '^"•J'*''^'^^"^ Scot,a cannot of her.Wf fJ """•■" "'»' Nova 'be States, but wc cau M h'"" * '^''"'^ ^'"h I'OSy'. exaollv Tn L- *^"^ '^^ same jjur- t..e iur;ii^„;bel"fofi;:Kj "»• ^'''- '^'"• «bo,ent for Mr MollX? aT? '""^"'• about the matter jh it" hn ^ • 4'' ^ ""n B»y Governor to S for L?l';lr''''^ ^''^ J^ie"^ lio EtJ^anoiSon and .h? ^*"''"*^ ^atho. advocated by SiV^RobPrt p°7 '""°.'' ^"^ ■■ "^ "^ «obert Peel, and atked CEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS i'f •■•er. „„, lbJ™„;i ""?«'' •■«'. .MJ ..ke?y c"uI'J be we find ourfekc' u^i?l^?^"*u "'T '»"''"«'* of Union in Iny particular 'w ' ^''^ '*"'*°'' red t„ the Washin/tml o k- ^* '^"« '*^r- Pleofaminia ry ,SL?S'i •- *" «««' to ttjo Deot)IP ^-hlv ? ^^^^ JrrespodBibi.- witlt ^he^'^oon t Str ^"of ' Thr^ff^r.^ cn"nental pow- em.rniou8 debt and heavy^tfi""'^ ^^'^ »° other atateamen corntnit ermrV? t ^'?,.°<** h«iii 84id at one tiine?h»f ,k ^V, ^9^^ ^hat- ""t be allowed t^rl*t''!^'''°'''-«»*">"Jd retorrtd to but ti,» -.»o2^ Canada was also quckt of the peanie ot * Pnll'ni 'f "' '''«. "' o»iot .i°.e?.S to t ^?"'" "' A«"»>Wy -be oi;.„,„,5 ;5S "n'A.b^liS- S£°«^ tMr.eentlloiks to rebel ;'whT:;' "^*' ^'^ attetttpt made hv fhl r • V"/ '* °°^ ^""e *^ «n»ae by the Legislature of Great OP THE HOUSE OP ASgEMBLT. 87 laiion of Cape Brefou, ns of th« franobiso t";t * 1 thwe were 'he law, and not Of people had been n*Dge8. fhey could be tonfcderatiow beoause It> to alter the eobeoie lular. We were rtfcr- 'cabinet aa an exxw- Dg offije irrespon»ibi> stem 1(1 in aooordtnce a of the United >ple desire a change ' ^li'ch it can be lie Cabinet at Oitawa. wbo waN rfjeotcd bv a high department*! opiniont of the peo- patroiiage of this itT of the oppoeition w»hatniateri»l«Jter- 'Uhout append to the no to reply n the re- 8 (Ipcision, although ie said that no man ny error*, D'd not oonje think he went fn Cantinental pow- 1 Jingland with an vy t»xe8. Did noi irrors ? Lord Chat- the Colonies should 9 eVen a borse-shofi Hdopt all the doc roen so many years fled. The Union of T Canada was aJso nof, parallel atalj. It, that at the rc- lony, ita oonetituf ut where privileges ft conetitution ig » not been forfeited iriDot take it away. that before Eng- Scotia to go she 1 blood. It would erful penchant for 'ojvie knifes; but > I vfould eay that o reb.l; we desire ytt to learn that y her troop! to ion with Canada. " shed the blood ject, the glory of ""Hied, and the t tarnished. Let er Confederation « then had our tninp: from the «e of Assembly cen, controlling K8. post o£Boei, snking institu. 3 power to t»x '»y, that in my ing more than should resist it ion country of uauspd the old ^H« it not the aturo of Great Britain to tax them 7 They did cot objeot so much to the amount of the tax as to the principle on which it waa imposed. Our con- dition is much the same as theirs— ihe Act of Confederation gives to the Canadians the power to tax us as they please. A little more >han a year ago the people of Nova Scotia were living happy and contented ; etery four years they had their elections, in which the party contests ran rather high,— but it mat- tered oomparatiTely little whether the Con* tervative or Liberal party ruled, no long as they administered our affairs fairly, and disn tributed our moneys among ourieWea. Then our trade was flourishing, and our resources were being developed as quickly as could be expected in a new country What has caused the difference 7 Are our people contented now ? Have we the control of our legislation and taxes, and the appointmeut of our pub- lic ofBoers 7 All these privileges are gone, and the result is that Nova Scotia is toING8 oar trade, we laait ooaaider the unfair legis- Union. At the laat setsion of the Ottawa from the Lower ProTinoea could do or say. they putajai onour bread»tufla,-thii wm Md to ihnt out from our markets the Amer can bread.tuffi,. If there wa. any neoe«iUy for this ,tep other than" ana^^ di»n neoenitiea I would not utter a word ef complaint, but we fo«Qd that when the ^t tn W*l'*i' petitioned for American coal to be taxed the requeat waa treated with oontempt-thus exkibitjg an utter di«rega d for fair legulation. One of the aranments lull !a *°.''^ >nweaaed; to ahew you that that could not be iae oaae let ua look at the ?rT£''™ **' England.-what enablea a p", ! i.l« .?*°i*'"^'"? ^*'8«'y •«"* cheaply T it ^«?«# I t'^*°*"™,?^P<'P»'»'»o'> "d the oheap- which wagea are to low aa in Great Britain ik'i «K? •'"*' °*°,'«'' **"** **»« manufacturer S?^««n"il 'O'kmen for half a dollar can lae Jingliah manufacturer can import all hia raw matenal-ootton from the Statea. hemp from Raaaia, and eilk from.Tndia, and to underaell every other country on the globe. Now to apply the iUuatration : wagM are tej'iK^?**'?. ^"^ *° ^«'» Scotia, aid heaidee that m Canada they have a very large amount of water power. It would nqSl the lapae of years Before we could even Sv i''„'".°i!'* 't'O'*"* oiroumatancea compete ri'. *5" Canadian manufactures. But it waaaaid throughout the country, and very strongly urged in the Piotou caniass "Oh. after Confederation manufactories will start up, Nova Sootians who have gpne to the ^^rHV-'^t'"'^'' ^^"^ '" «biploade;*nd every atream in the country will have a mill upon ^l^«« i the master m a financial point of I«7 7' *l" •**" *^*' Cinf^derailon must opwata most materially ag.'uat the iiitereata of Nova Sootia. We formerly had a tariff of ten per oent-lhat tariff was auflELoient to mtBt all the wants of the country, and during the but ht^ ?«M S"' ".'J""'' '^^^ °»'y increased *1,^6,000. In thn natural increase of trade and populttion the revenue would doubtleas bavebeenatill found auflSoient to meet all 5ur rlnr'lf.'^/ ''' the country, and to extend . • ?f- M?^ ^^ ^"8 not only a tariff «««t:i^5*'.,'**', *"?*•• *»»* newtaxea of several other deacrfptiona. The amount of money which we are to get in return ia 80 cents per head and a bom < of $60,000. The fifteen per cent, tariff will, aa every one can ■ee. produce juat a half more than the ten per cent, and that inoreaae, calculated in the revenue of 1866, amount* to about $700,000 j'Jl^*^'" to become of that money? It goes We were told that we had got more money back then we had aent up so far, but there ia the plain fact that the large aam which 1 have mentioned goes into the treaaary of tha General Government. There would be iS need for an increase if. «a wasTaid. the m^ ney was to be expended among ourVeW^ To have the tariff thus rused lithout aS corresponding benefit being rsaliwd. bV the SS^ '\^7^*' the people catSS^the point of. Although 1 was aware* vthM we were confederated, that, at a.yift^tK Upse of a few years, our tixatioiiWoSl to Urgely increased I had no idoa that^. Ij! ing meu qf Canada would be so bold anTw. dead to .ll,en«, of shame that, .tito|r« meeting of their Parliament, regardW of what our representatives ooild say thM. tyrannical and oppressive acts would bepaw! ed. It was said repeatedJy that the balance of power w -Ud be in our hand., and tSre ^^ "o dMfc r of our interests biiag^dK garded with fifteen n mbers from NelrV^ Wick to join our nineteen; but when tht^. '?«»»- 9f the Maritime Province SiJiTto clash with those of Canada, we saw the cJrna- dians banding together, imposing UaSioS on us. and suoh I fear will always be the case wt£S tho Union laeti To show you howTpwIS eive the new taxation which they hrve^S^T nnl'/'*' Minister of CuEtomu admits, thatao- «nl"'.^K'' ■ •'•'«°'ent prepared fo^ hTo^y some other person, the increaae of taxation Ln* "V *r*°°9,i "K*"-' •n'i the fifteen wr th-^'Jti^w' ^'^ '•'' »«73,145. I havVmSe the calculation myself of the effect of this change of rafts on some of the leading „♦! dee in use in Nova Soatia. Taking thf ouan- tities imported in 1866. the last yefr in Jh*ch ^ill'": '«&' '" V''^ incrS^on .^J;?i will fte S4S,185, and on tobaooo S23.645 th.'t?hT-^"' ^°' Cumberland told uVlwt nighi that the increase on tea is only half a cent * P^"°d ; the Minister of Caitoms aays it °S I cent; both gentlemen, I » i sorry to say i! below the mark. There need be no "nci" tainty; thequantity and the cost value we fn nl'" ^""^ f*"""' "'^ "how the incre^ on our importaUons to amount to $30 472 paper $6000; petroleum oil $20,500 Or cottons, woollens, hardware, cordage, cinvas nLr^i'^^'^^P ';?' "'''P'" ""«' wd some fi^ff ♦? °°K ■. "^ ^^ *"'*««d free under this tann, the balance would pay $744 790 it»«V- ing an incre«'« of $313,404 Wifhout'^u- pying the time of the House by Se^er he whole of our importations, it wH beswn that en thesa staple goods alone the « will be »n increased taxation in Nova Scoti* to th! extent of $359,073." "* '" *"® large defimti ,a the revenue of Canada it would not be desirable for Nova Sootia tS'be confederated with that country. Hia Ian guage was : vuumry. ma lan- H«n«?l«'"'l**'''u^''***'** whilst toe OOBdi- i^r. B r.'„"J" ^r.'^^y " '* »»»• hwn for expsnditiire and revenue be ng more tht- a million of dollars-these Maritime p'ovi. cm would look very doubtfully upon a Soi^ which waa to unite them with . ooun^try th" t^^' ifMBv touts Df. AflSBUBLT. o«a9 ' th« trcMsry of th» here ■would be no M was ttLxd, the mo- among ourselyea. %i«ed without any oe ruljzad. by^ the ople oaaoot «etthr ia awM>e«>aMa we »* •■y mtf, ia^tlM »ixation woukl be iddtk thatthe %^. be go bold an«ao B that, at ihe jlret lent, regardlega of ooulii Bay, tbeae aots would be pasi- ly that the balance >r handj, and %re ereits beiae^disre- •efromNeWTBnuio- but when the'in- roTinoee oaae to ', we saw the Gana- poeiug taxation on , yabetheoaeewUle ' you how oppiea* 1 they have impo- 3e€ch delivered by m admit*, that ao- pared for him by irease of taxation nd the fifteen per L45. I have made the elFeotofthis :ho leading arti* Taking the qnan- iMtyearin whioh inoreaae on angart tobacco ^22,645. > told ua laat night >nly half a cent* toma aaya it ia a > eorry to aay, ia ed be no nnoer* e coat value are (tow the inoreaae »unt to $30,472. 15,867; printing il $20,500. Of cordage, canvas, lie value of 80,- 56,386. Deduct- nan, and aome i free under this #744,790, roak- Without occu- B by going over s> it will be seen •ne there will be r* Sootia to the »*t owing to the le of Canada, it va Scotia to be intry. Hia Ian. lilst the ooadi- ■ it haa been for ow between the ag more that: a time Provinoea 3on a propoaal • country that irfMMa ifi ft fKMiMoB ofi.Mok lteal>«l«l em- barraasmerit." '■ '■' ■ •rbaftddhit, wt know, had been aooamu- latinai for ten 'yeara with the excpption of on«. Afiera «x montba' trial of €onfedera- tion we are in a poaition fairly to aek if the promiara held out to us have been realiaed,— > if oar manufaotoriea have been built up. our ttin.BK lutcreara improved, and the young men a6d women who )ci( tbecoanlry brought bask by ths saducsaaeniB afforded T No, sir, thebeoefita which we have obtaiwd are in- oMatd iaxatioB, thretaap aot, the newepa* par taxy and • numt>rr of other such impoei- tiona. To ahow th*t I have not exaggerated tha iBduccmenta which were held out touaaa argnwientsin favor of Confede/fttion, I will re*d froBB a apeeeh of Mr. John Tobi a, saade ia 1867. He aaid : " If there ia ona aeifttion of thia Province more likely tha* another to tobebenefttted by thia Confederaiion, it ie the eityof Halifez. Thia moat be theemporium, wnenee will be diatributed over the Gmtea- eraoy all the merebandiae beoughi'to our ahorea. Trade anat bedewelopcd to anit>(iefi- •ite de^^ree, labor will be dev«lof>ed, in fact alLolaaaes and intieroata Fill reoebre a valua* ble itaipalae. Oiir porti will be filled with thipptng, and ooip. wharvea a»d wavihouaea groan with the merchandize that will be re- quired for the Confederation." iTIiat la a aainp\e of the style of jargameatMion which waa made nee of to deceive- the ooontry. I think I have ahewn, Mr. Speaker, that the working of the <6hBine, Itt whataoever light you tegard It -commercially, financial- ly, or otherwise— Ip adYerte to th? intereetB of Nova Scotia. Bat the achemr is bad jn Ut. aelf, M I will preeently shew. And I will dwell but little upon thia point, because it la rot material to ua; beoause even if the mea- ; ore were good, as Mr. Tomklns aaid: if it kad bifought , aa toaity bleasings as.lt has ""ipraes, no person w' tha particle of British ' fHing. should luboiit to it." We were told thit the scheme contains all the beauties of both monarchical and republican systems. The admiration which eome had erpteBsed for this constitution reminds me of the Pil- grito who eiolaim^d in reference to the oolli- seom at Bqme : •' While staddatteooUlMum, Rone s1)»llbtand ; Wbea tiau tbe «»lli(emiiv Rome thaU,C»)li i ^ And when Borne falU, tie wof Id." , ', ^ ; , ^ , /^ One would think that the world wbtild f»ll if thia ConfederatiolKwetebrokeBttp. in my view, it does not contain the ohibks of either tbe monarchical or rtpubll^a; ijrstem. Tne very genius of tlie British •constitution is agaihst Federal union. The history of fede« ration, *'rom thi earliest times, is condemna- tory of the principle, and a legislative union is that which we have wen taken place m Great- Bl'itain. If » aeoeeaity existed, which Ideny. foi'a'noion of these Colonic*, a legis- lative union Is oertiinly tbe one which should have been fornaed. Let me read an extract from Mr. Johnston's speech, in 1854, ^li that point. Hestys: •' I have never favored a Union of the Tro- tinoes, bj- way of federation, for it did not ■Bpear to tend to the grea* object we had in view. What we want is to produce a real 13 «nt(y~m»ke the parta that are now aeparate a homogenoBS whole-»give them m crnM^a of •xistenoe and purpose." '_p^ This opinion, coming from Mr< JoBBaon, ought to have had some weight v^th linion- iata at all evects. .But if the dclcgattir, hav- ing decided in formiugafiMieril ubuml, had only turn«dtbeir eyes, on (he Anerieail Re- publio, and. copied sdme of its moil vi^aabls fcitares, we wonid liave had aoaa tetter checks Bu p plied . They gave - aa rcf retent a- tion by population iivttte lovi * H(Riae, and I will not here atay to argce wUtbcrihat baais ia correct or not; but ha^iug d»a« that, tbey abould have given weoet^paleBi^Daao the npper Hoaee. NevT Ydirk, JbcUifi^ « large 8t«te,f Ijaa 30 repreeentati^es in the>Bo«ie uf ,Bepreaeaiauvc84 and Bbode latwid 3being email, has only those or four ; baij in the Senate the lattar haa m maayinicoibara aa the former, ao that tbb 8maUer8ta«et«a'« pro- tected from any combiaatiOB.- Iq< the lower Houae. But even if tbe'-appcfintmeUtt'^ our fienata bad been wbatdtkey ahaidit4iB«»been, the oomplaint would ttbtfatave becb so great ; bat aome of those appointacnts are m elitfcrace to Nova Seotia. I will not reHer to:the iDdi> vidual oharaetera of Jhe bmb^ fbr lh«y are pretty well known; sofaejofltbeidi were men of vespectability; but aaoBgithem^'Wtre men . like M-.ller, who went.4>v«r the Cfettitry de- Bounoiog Confederation.' There ' WtV Mr. Bcurinot, whoaefeelinga in the mattw were no strong, at one tiraei thatsht ref ifiWl'^ par- ticipate in aooial gatherings in Oamda lest his attendance might be'takcnJia* ad- iadica« ti^n of a, favorable lea«iiag towikCdji Confede- ration. Mr. Jones «hew'iwhat made a Union- " ', let of him, and hoi bf r^<}ei^«d kU ^appoint. ment, and thera were oOiers ia tboa*iBe po- sition- Only pneeppJmhWs9f!,SiW«tor8 '. ; oan ha wd ^o r<^i)r«fci»t J^om li^Mia, and ■ tbrAt 14 John Locke. \ ,^. . .,«.' . . WaiBome now to thf) qiiealioB; whether this j^tti^r ahould have been ieferied ta th< Peo- ple at the polls, and autha?iti)ij^ b»vt been oited to ahow.thatit should not. ^X Fi'l not waate time to cite many proofs, because the right of the people to decide ia perfectly ob- jiooa. Ia it not a common popular ifaying ^•Vox populi. Vox dej?*' Ai^d thete .ie an» other,one, '-Vox popoji, aupvema lex.'' that is; "the voice pf tKo »eople i»v tbe.isupreme J|kW.**j Parliament, h^s no powwa ta destroy ■^Uself, or to vote itself^^ut of f|xi#teB0«i Lord . Pluinket said in lelereno* to the iBoompe> tenpy of Parliaoieut toipBt^ ettd .to^ita own esistence: "y^ux«^«e| vm nay fxj^iguish, but Parliament you oiknnotr extinguisti. It is enthroned in the aearig of tbe peojJe— -it is enshrined m the sf^nctiiary of the oonstitu- mn-^it is as immortil aa the island that pVf tectiit. As well njifeht the frantic sui- cn.u imagine that tbe act which deeti^oj^a his ^tierabte body abould also exUnguish his eternal soul. Again, tltierefore, I warn you. I>o not date to lay S^V^t bitnds on the Con- Btitatiou-^lt is above ytour powe^a !'* Never X ihink have I rekd* any thlftg more truly elo- ^«]ent and true than the for^goitii^ extract. ^vcn coiamon secse shouU suffice to teach any person in a Legislative Asseml^iy that the people from whom the authority' is de- rived ihoald not be preolntied^ fr^bi saying J , n '90 of Union themMlfef that tTf °' J"" •''«"°" h»M been wfeJrS to thl ' "V*" ,»*'""'<' Mr. Miller wld-- *'*" People. In 1864 l865Dr.Tapper3w"'* •^'•^"tion. la fuliy iSn^U'rbe Sft i-rHe ^««'' P»red to oome here by ten» „f !k7' ' 5" P"* ■obemeofUnioa" coneuaim»te thie come in by thS^aS to tk ?or''ttf * "i* neat; but how «««« ^ 4- • "^^r the enaot- Unir»iwereD?^n^l?PS*"'?°" '" '*^or of »»«/d«« a« flV™«? V/H^ "">* there scheme vpon the iSu yA^-^T* '^" «h(»-A«<» T — » ^1 »'*»« reit bouud tj o-o S' loir JrX' '»"' "f ""■? "y'f'f to 'be formation in my ^o";?";!^hI':" '^i '?'« *»- »." of Nova Sootilto whh r K-'' *^"'"*° •rnm*Qt and Pari »m.i^? '*"' P^**"' Got- iicJnHmenTlfThetTry''''' '" '*'^"*- oppo«d tc the Mhem?? The mod^e "o^" '"" tnote their iLterMr. i? it 1 .^"' '*'" P''o- 1^>a O— .^ DBBATia AND PROOMSDINCB Tm Spbakbb wggested that it wa. out of ort.Vr^fn'J.br:''-'^' *° "»<' ^0^ ^^\ -olargely oSSblr' iSe"-?" fZt*] ?4prbTt7eir^;ia.':;;^^i'?S^^ could aiaare them tLf if J''^''* ".'<* ' »« laitted it to the MoDle H.rf* ""' ""''' I lu.le to the Peoplewhether Mr Hoie^l'fn" oonsiatent or not ~.tt t.o u j '^•, """* »*« in- fe-ieration wit& ;5^^''' «civooated Con- he WM »pn„» * ". "PPeal to the peonI« "oneofthe few fhfl iT ' ^.° *■*•* "•°"»*« poeed to that union, and whe^»ff'!.*M" "P" be oarried hv f.ii. tlJ- ' .."^ " oonld not •moot fh. Sb,,T ^fP.",?"*" '»'' '"I" l^^arsTbSrKS one reBDcotableptoX And thJn *^^ "'*'":'''»• ing with Feniane rebel. .i°i*^^"*/*"''°°»*t' ""g that people Jhouldb'e "^fu? K' •'^'*- P»ny they kept. When rS .w^**' 0°™" tion lwMfno^^«U"ai.^'!!!^'''^-• tieS''o"fh^'L^'?,;i'i<^-J»i»^^^^^^ hey were the eympSer. of P^ ■*""' *'"' throats and rebels he ehoniH w ^"'"'«'»». c"^- the company he h'iSjelf wij i*L""'Sf."^'^"?,'^ tmg the very time he w "e ih^T ift" '■^' ooin^ny with a man fDr TudS is "^'5 Of TBB 19[0tTSE OF ASSEMBLY. 91 >og> to re»d from boob' aed:— I wonldnot h»?i It h«d not been dootl r Bide,_but I waa pro- f 'be men who now loud- lent had » right to pm Bubmitting it to tliel e«»nd »ou ■ometinM •tat John, »id ! H« li \f there tt the Ua$t non nf the people up- Mted to them at ikt ted in «ooord»noewith e an hoDe«t man, sub. | le. Had oat people r poaitioo Tronld have L great deal bai alto oonjHtenoy of oertaia therMp. Howewaein- B bad advooated Con- ■Ppeal to the peonle (MIS hare beenfreily me, but that name ii niaorui names, that »nd will live in the va Hootians ifhen the asure will ii*ve gone 11837, stood in the frame position, sod only I threw kway hie mniket when the red««o»t8 [were at h eign in exiitenoe, and guided by great, wise, and honorable men, I feel there is no reason to expect that wSen we ;ro there and show thiit tbey were deceived— that we never favor- ed the Scheme, but were designedly kept from passing on it, these authorities will »t once say "we have done you a grievous wrong, but we will undo what has been done." I might refer at some length to the falsehood contained in the preamble to th« Loion Act, and to the iDfluenoe which Mr. Watk-n's statement must have had when he said that the questioa had been discussed at every polling booth in the Province. As to the Act itself, I concur with those who think it is rsot binding on Nova Scotia, because it has never buen confirmed by etntnts of the Local Legislature. When the Reoiprooity Treity was entered into It was seat to us for ralifioation.fand Why not this measure 7 It has been said we should accept the situation. Shall we do so 7 No. Mr Speaker, we will not, nor will we accept the advice of those who ask us to wait a little longer. "A day, an hour of virtuous liberty is worth a whole eternity in bondage." We may be asked " but is our country worth contending for7" Look at her re- sources, her forests, her flshericH, her mines. Is it not the uoal and iron that make a conn* j try great 7 We have them in abundance. 4 This land is ours; it has come to ns frte from U our foref»thers, who felled the forests, and ' tilled the fitlds, and made '• the wilderness to rejoice and blossom as the rose." Have we rot among us the feelingsof Britons? Whom do I see around me but the deseendants of Englishmen, who are noted for their love of freedom ; of Scotchmen— those men of iron, with lightning in them— the sons of the land which has been oalled " the home of the brave and the free;" and of Irishmen, whose coun- try is the " first ^ower of the field, first gem of the sea," and has given birth to so many UluttriouB men, who, like Grattan. c i 'd ex* claim in reference to tbeir country's contti* tution, " I've sat by her cradle, and followed her hearse." And ia there anything in the atmosphere of Nova Scotia to deteriorate the nit J Have we not the same aspirations t I beliuve that Nova Sootia will not taincly submit and accept their present position. They must and will be f^ee. Ihe debate was adjourned. The House adjourned. si. K« FaiDAT. Feb. 14th. The House met at 11 o'clock. Mr. Rtkhsos presented the report of the Committee appointed in reference to the dis. tribotion of the moneys for the relief of dis* treesed fishermen. * Mr. DicKiK presented a petition *ith res* pect to » wharf in Kine's County. Mr. KiBK. » peiition from Fisbermen*s HaT'hour fur a bridge. Mr. CncHBAW. a pitltinn of Mr. Arobibald and others, of Mnsquodoboit Batbour, in re- ference to a toad. Hon. Psor. Bxo. laid oir the table eonm- 92 r. £iao«(i««»1,Trwt Fund, wiionrm Mr. CKAiiatMi..tfc« petitioq of Uorilliard Qu2n% ??. ^° "iwotiDg m bridge in ..ir^ #•** ^'*'"'' "'.*''• P"oe o/CambflrlMd reJfLS^r^'^"" P*'?'*^** P«*i"on8 with ffpfnt «f ?. A*^ wfej^liBMter, «kiD,r for a M°*^"* "» "'«'«"<»« to » road. *^ "^V^'»**>«««. i» C. B ,*8king for .SmiS quMtityof potetoMMd o»t»for wed; llioS D'0r°LS^f*'''i2r'?"»« •t Li.tli Brw n • 5 ''''*^ .^"'' *''P'« Co. Medioai Sooitty. *°°°'P°"»« Tli« ar the country. Entertaining the opiniS! do of the resolutions moved by thehoto At- orney General, and believing es I Jo thit time and oirpumstances will prove me to be right I feel it to be my duty to support wS *2«n^ment8 of the hofl. mmber fSf ^yj,! MB. IKTCKIB's SPEBOH. Mr. DrcKiB followe4 and said :-^Mr> Sbeak- • er, in attemptmg to address thisBoose on ihe resolutions on the table, I shall not "^--" thing in r,egard " ' I table, I shall not say f^g- to the oqnstitutioniihty-.QJr ♦^•t Dart of the sahjeetfaS «",«:;25' J — L °* *''* eentlemen wjK .? oS^h?*^ V^*^ »Py«h|hB I mightaay d only be itikmg up the timerfthu thipquefction, for .„„ „,„ „, ,ne saDjeetjiai been so ably handled by the gentlemen wjK have, precfidnrl ma, «kot .-...uir.. » ■ ™^ .~^" would ._., „„ |«.»»L House unf esossarily, Ipropl)^. tir^'oU^k trans.0 tion. In taking tbia view of it. I am aware It may be awd that lam as84mibS very low ground-that Ii^m Ukioga narrow Md contracted view of the qu«tion. unwoiv thy of so great a Confederatft,n, ao vLt » thHLTK ^^^^y-M wme' extend? the oaae. but joii,puat he aware th»t a wk>e ?„? o».f «*'a, "money aaawereth all things." try be 7 It is neeesaary to the life, thep^os. penty, and the bappiMu of agoinijfthi OP •m.^pm'^^o^^wWi I 93 i(^ Vr^^M^Wmi^^ Uo. of Botjer earth luTy be clothed with '^More. Atfd, eir. wheo Uying this fcancl»tion« of •© grWt ^^ a Dominion, the utmoii 04re should be t«en , ^^^ th»tnoio«ere«t«hou!dau£fer in the ilighte»Vj,^ degree ' IhealiRhteet j»ri»tion o' ♦''• o°^:. -u pan miy, iite<* the noble ehip, und aeM U«t ,_ _ the iiMireiitdefiAtion from the path of J.as' tlce m^^ut the fpundations of an Empire, miKbV«Vym*tely o»uie ite destruction. Ihe LegiiUture orthi».Pfoi»lf»oe when (oonttitu. lionmUy »r not) »ppolDttng delesjatea to ar- r»Dii«»ieb«ineo{ Confederatxoa, •ilpulatefl that anohi Bpbeme should be equitable and just to all the pro^incei, and I propose to show that they did not carry 6ut that stipu- lation, la July last. I made » calculation based on the revenoe and expenditure of 1800, and estimated tba: the Dominion government would receive from Nota gaotia, under our tariff, 8370,001) more than lUe i»ott}dh%Te.iiO ''Yihowed this House the other day that, according to Mr. Rose's ^sUtespent th« Do- minion has Koeived at the rate, of $306,000 per year, or 8152,400 for five months, and no gentleman undertook to gain»y the Btatpmwi^it oannot be done— it stands as a record of the past and a foretatte of the fu- ture. t also showed that the difference be- tween^the tariff of Nova Scotia and the tariff, of theDomimon would take ft.om Nova Sco- tia in adaption $732,000. Nolle disputed it, nor can. they do so. These two »mountt makP Sl.097,000; add to this the Stump Act, the Postage Act, and the Bank tax, and you have not lees than 23,000 mpne, or 4,1, 120.- 000 for the year ,1866. had we then brtn qton- federated. L? thlfj fair, is this JuBt T J*^m such a soheipe as they were t^hatged to ar^ range? No— nothing of the kind./ Were they ignorant of wh»t they i*ere doing^ 1 would f*inbelipve bo if I could; but,mr, even the mantle of charity which Covireth 1^ multitude of Bitis, is not ample enough to cover so grave an error. It i»3i*Sny iav» possible that they should not have knbwn that the bargain was a ruinou* one fpr Nota Scotia; and, •ii'. We are compelled to look further for some cause th%t operated on their mlncla with greater force thau. t^e welflireor their country., . . . We have ia inkling of this totopping out at the contention held In Qoebeb, where, it is said, they were at sixes and sevens until it ▼&« nnderstoodl tbW the pominion would «leot three Qovernora fot the different Provinces, and there would'be a numbet of heads of A»*i h«« tOTaWOtfV tariff. Ide« reventi^ofNo^BcMUwer^ Wpi.w . 835.657 " IBfla -'■ • 861.669 " 1863 ^ *• 93©.1C9' ••'1864' ' ' 1.047.891 •• 1869 -' 1.22G;398 "1^6 *«;»«<*'»;«* This iB an average amiMi iBoif**;*^^™* pait 4 years of 12 J fjet'ceat., and at the Bttitte kverage rates we might eipect-* 81,379.697 Itt 1867 1,5S2.159 •• 1808 1,745.178 •*' 1869 1,963,200 "WO ThJf if a ealon!atiop based upon th« reoorda of the past; and there is no reason v^<;iy th^ea. amounts snay not be realiieJ in ibe futun, except it be that the nnsetiled state of the, country hM been, thrown into by thofe who hava attempted io dispwof our lewnuef*,,, and deprive us of our deareit rights, thf-.^i rio-hts of free men. Bat this is only our iCTt venu^jfromoaiitoinfi^otiHiiotil revenue.waa: i WlSei, "■•*>'>-,'• $ 893,324 . MK ..V. 1862; •• l.a7»-817 ■ ■ -rf :18G3» i.249.l»5 .iB .) 1864, ■ Hl'il)^ 186S, l.73L,8S» 1866; 1,867,1^ Under an awrage InoreaBe, we mn\i have. In"l867; $flf:i)M.29l 188&. 2.98* *52 1809, 3.644 ,2.')8 1870, •,..,.. -.a 8.914.789 And this, tap, under our own.ttrflF. 'So with our finanocS in this condition, >w« wonld be enabled to UiCet all our liabilitUs, and bnill our proportion of the Intercolonial Railroad, , if reauired. . >■ _ , li' ^O But. sir, if wa were to collect duties under r, a Canadian tarifi, we would haw collected, in addition to what we have ooUopted under our tariff: ^ In 1864, 8 1867; , . c 1868, .. i>" *; _ 1869,,. 9r»a.'»t..D..Mj 1,042,247 ■, i87o; • • . i,m,m lit •A d «1 J \ ) A '1 t ■ni :)[ 603.531 888.522 732,000 883,509,, «n3pS 926 544 M'ldll.'' lUfta a suia of itself sufiioient to build the^Mteroo*. lonialfoad.andpay ftjrittoo in less than v 30 ye-rs, by placing th* surjiluain a sinking; y fund. And this, I hesiute »ot to B%y, is; ••o sum paid by Nova Scotia to the Dommioj; Government, inoreMing every year as ouar imports increase, anu for Which Ontaifio aUd ■ Quebec pay to the general fund no equiva- kntv Butwbenlpiittiie two amounts to- « gether and add to them th* other taxea 1^ hava already enumerattd, you would ha^ « I -'''■■ In 1964. "0 884.&5(J'"l'-;'^^ 1.120,000^'f«>/i'iq 1 2fio,oo»^=' »'»"'.; 1,417.5W 94 , Trc 4 i ii" |i i; in 1' ^^ •'•amont tbfo tbe whole f»h,u fall! to the srouDdi. for hM not th^! -k . •rgument Nen thtt under LoWe«.il' .bop. wfSd S^l.i^''",,""^^' °»; 5-'y woj D2*ltII AND PBOCDHBIKO* to iiuih an »5»eQi th: D.4* _ I b. a mere frog po;Ti;rhT;entre o"'^^^^^^^^^ If hew anticipation, are to be realiiH mv ir my antioipationi are not rea]iz»d it »iii tt Jon SeU.J'^th'*'*' ""S «' »"• S'! reiult ^ ' '*""■• "" ^ but one loKSir'SL'nr.? /nT..\"rr w\" L" n«L*''r J"**" ConfederVion W« «" KIJ^ «"• Agrioulture; Board of Work^ S°*n .^•n'J"; EJaoation; Wiil.tiTe E«' pen»e»;MineeandMineralB: Na»i«tinn a!" Mntie.; Printing; Roads and Bri^e,? '" \^^' «318 340 And .t the MBe rate we would require : •J. iMO 1.149.183 tterltion':""* "* '""''^ ""'^ «>-• "^er ifi«d' 489.000 j»69, 517 005 1»7''. 550^000 jng up of the Nortli Weet Territflrr m*^».. ly eetlmated at from thirtiT fl^J V^m^*" more; then a Well.nd Snal U in "confemSS? *'»»*' '«•»'>? twenty to thirty million. So f fiSij'i':,""'' ■>" poll""". «.« o.y fi iMriomotplMofonl, tlOMM I wii* prewatly ihow pj*'f **'"?'°"' •« ^*!,l!'l'.n.>?i"°* ^"°'''*'* 81.935.500 expend, eo on capital account. More than thi. ♦« njy.urpri.e there i. nothinj in tbele e.ti? ««« i fi"'"°'' "'J' »mount to from fire to Mven milhone. and of which Nora Scmia tne .nms I have enumerated. Yet all thia I. oonndcred by tbe delegate, and the'r friend. fMrand equitable; thi. i.the«jhemitbTt wa. waj°/aid '°tU°. >|» PTtie.. If .he founditToo rt"c;rr'eii't'!>"bi'iikr "' '*•" *"• ^p^'- Sir, did you eyer hear of any number of .peraon, going into partnership wkS^ak. ing nto account the good, and ohatt.u pUoedinthefirmr Whft would yoS think If eeverftl g»,ntl9mea here .hould enter a Da?u ZdLr'^ k">°"J^ P'»°« in oSe"oon.mon fandtbeir caeh. their Und., their houM. their .hip. and their .took., without puttbe iHonf '^«°>'°t.« •count .t a certain t.Iu- *M.V ■■ "''" y*'" «e« the founder, of Damfnl^n"';^" P'r*"? *' •''« di.po.al of the ?ntT. ?.° /''*» "'''•«»'i8 of Nova Soot A with- out equiTalent or compensation, to say no h- Ind Ihi" ''8''|5?"«. breakwiter.. canal.. ?i,nnP?*'?u b^'Winee. Sir, I .bould have thought that one of the first thing, to b2 done would have been to have appointwl' a fn'i^w'"* '" *"""«" the same in a fair and W»bl« manner; and when ibey fai ed to do thia they failed tf> carry out the very let! ini;!;"!'*';"* °' "»«« Initructionr S En enemy by force of arm. conquered the ooun- I f;i,'*' °°;i\'^ ?^^ *'*^« done more than taK •II the public building, and work. a. th«v failed ?nflr"wi "•* '"° *'''• ♦'•"y »>"« not talpnK^'; '^^''"'' °"'" revenue, not only taken by our conquerer., but also raised -51 per cent .-and all this, in my estimatbn ^2 ation* '„''f*^**P? °^ •••ocepting the situ. n«H?. r°I *!?'•.''•''« the thing out, do they lltl'^":^ their po.ition?-do they think ThlvL"*'^ are leading the country oT ?ullv ITl' "^"^1 They hivinevJbite. thefani l.''°°?'^y'^^°''*'^ the .i.uUlon in re^^t n'r^K "*^' *,"/ calbuUtions as to the je«lt,or they jouW flat gi»e i4ob adviw a. Of XHE HOUIE OF ASSEMBLT. At.' Allow me now to tarn thi ftttentioa of this UooM to ftuother phM« of this remftrkabls Confederttion. The hlitorj of th« Grand Trunk Railroad U to some •stent faniiliar to moit in thia Home. That it iwaya and large- ly influcncea the politioil affaire of Ctaada few will Tenture to deny; and, lir, I have reaaoa to iMlicve that thf itfluence of that Company h»« had much, tery muuh to do Id bringing aboat tbii (.!ouf«deration. Iti iiiflu«BilKM IhM $10,000 aitber way per y«ir. And ; jwt Mr. JobB«tOBUlUu»t!»»t it will only »«kfl -faft.SaO lEore thKD oar Ute tvjff. Ni^t» Sootia ' imported in iha year ending 30(h B«0t.. 1806, $14,361,000, «tul ooltfOted duty filiai0,3i>8, »od lite adUition of 9i'9 339 would only be »l)out 41.100 pf 1 ptr cent— vkioh would mftkothe Duainfon ♦•riff ao> oordiDKtoMr. Juaaeoa oi4y 8 94.100 per . eeal; ««U itO per oeat. for Jha aake o.' aimpil ' ryin« it. Apply tj)ia to ithe amount of C*. ■ CMia'a imooitt, and you bftre $2,488,510 lea? than waa actually colleoied; aud if Mr. John- •OB ia rfght Canada will be relieTcd. hy thia tariff $3,488,516 par year, am' we witlliave ) addedtj our iaxt» >> it $09,339. Sir. tne • Maieitierit ia uawortby of oanaiderallon, and iU' I beg tbe pardon o^ tt)i« !Iouie for ocoupyi* w 9'' ;! : ing ao umuh of tbair liuie wi(b astateme^teo ?»•> aaaaifeit y errou^pujj aud my ex«iu(e iv, th»t iv U appeara to bavelieea issued hy aotborify, im aud lb i preaa ptUkia city are oopying, (5om- -i meniing on aud endorsing ita ecrora. . , ' In oonoloaion I will only add in refdenoo to tbe retparka that fell from the hon. Hiem» mi ber oaa previouaday tbat he may owl me n; what htjpieaaea— may tbrefitew to akin.me/rom head to foot; but J tdl biin I did mliiome Jwre^to bandy words with any one, but to do the bnsineaa of tbe oountrj. I can tell bim Oije thing, aad that ia, be will never m«ke )[ti^t dowfl ap he aoknow? ':jcd he sat under Ite topgue-Ushings of a i(l>Dlleraan some .ycara ago, H . confessed that he did not ,d*re defend hiijTBelf, and that ithurthimso ^Ucb tbat he could not sleep all night. When TOMnot dfffend rayielf I will retire frorn the House, and go back to my fconsHraents, and ttll tb«-m lam not fit to fight their battles or contend for their rights. idi i "ii, ■•'3' - «• ■^vv:ii':f MR. 0HAMBEB8' SPBEOB, i-il *'Oti o-i ■'CI Mr^ CuAMBEBS said— I do not like to occu- py tho time of the House when any member is desirous of speaking, but as no otny gentle- men would gladly re'ire from the Houte, and attend to their own private affairs, if they did not feel impelled by a high sense of duty to remain here. The hon. member for Inverness and myself Itarted out in life about the same time, and whilst he baa ^arsued on^ .coarse, I have a ken a differenti one. He baa, been before e public for ttenty years at tue bar, and I h-*« no doubt he hM been 8uc'^e88ful; but I have kept steadily at my busii ;, and have no reason to bedisiJttisfied, with .be result. If I were inclined to act the egotist, as be did the other day< I could tell him what I have ^donein Cumberland and ColchcBter to revo- lationiae trade. Ifl had~ not kept to, trade I might be in a bad Government, or looiing to pollllci for »ajf llveltht)*^. ' iu*(W*ii< I that I am not like others we know of, who have been driven out of this country by t^elndig- nation o* their fellor-connfrymen, t jd forced to aeek refuge in the backwoods of Canada. Inateadoi'betDgabMto retarn t» their old friends, and received witV open arm* by their fellow oitljeo*. I am. aefe, I oonfeM at once, to mala the beit, out the w«>rU of Cou- federatlon. I am here to ezpresa th« ffclings and opinions of thom who bftf e bMB-deeply rronjied in connection with tbt* taq(tieot.>u8 queitjon. We have already haa ooaMerablu experience of ihia hated scheme, m<1 can Jijd^.eof thed^ep injury we must ■oatain if iWs remain much longer In our present huml llaung pcittion of subjection to Canada. But I acknowledge tbat I ant open to conviction, and if the hon. member can show Us the ad* vantages of Confederation I shall gladly listen to him. My conetitaente ii'ever a»ked Capt, Morrison or myself what we would plet", but surely they had time e^ough lo cojisult buiini."« man. and arrsnge it so as to be fair to the intertits concerned. This tariff cannot satisfy No -n Sooiin, because it is a C»nadi« tariff. What suits C*nad» d-^ss not Buit Nova tiuotift, for the mterests of the tw«> countries are .ery different. Each has what the other has not. T»Jie a i«w items in this tariff in order to see how tut Interests of this country are affected. First ot sU wo read : " No dao'actioD of charges for packing, straw, twine, ccrd, paper, cording, wiring, cutting, or any other exp«n«eB." Thete gentlemen are not satisfied to charge duty on the goooi! only, but actually on musty straw in which they may be packed. ^The hon. member I see IS talcing a note, but I kuoT what he will say, that this refers to bottled wine or port,;.', and so he may orojs oat his noti.) Again we are told, *• No ■•'^mmissidn charged in any Intoioe, for the p'jiohase of goods or cUim- ed to have been paid for such purchase, shall be allowed in abatement of the value of the goods /or duty." On some low prto« geods the expenses and commission add f»U 25 percent, to thtir value, which are compel- led by these unfeeling gcnMemen at Ottawa to pay the duty on the -le. Probably if Mr. Blanohard was a trader, as I am, he would not be long on the side where he i» now. If ha was selling tea, sugar, cotton wavp, &o., he would be with us; but he is now in that position that ne doeii not understand the warts of the people, and therefore he did not care hoir mucli duty we have to pay. Again, to oome to something worse, " No discount for cash shall in any case be allowed, nor shall goods be allowed to entry at cash va- lues, except where it is satisfactorily showJi to the Collector that such goods can be pur- chased only for cash, and then it shall form a part of the affidavit of the importer that the value of such goods was paid at the time of purchase." Whoever heard of a thing like that? I did not think they were smart enough in Canada to do a thing of that kind. I know of a gentleman who has sent an order to England for some goods, and if he pay<5 cash, he will get 10 per cent, discount. If ho f;oe8 to the Custom House and presents his nvoice of an item which cost Qs. cash, in- stead of 10s. on time, they will ask him, could you not buy it on time ? Then they will reply to him, " no discount allowed for cash, neither will a cash bill be allowed un- less it be shown th&t such goods can only he purchased for CB3h." It appears to me that such a thing is preposterous in the extreme. Now look at refined sugar, and you will find it is fifty pir cent, more than it was last year; yellow sugar is one-half more; the latter 's an article that enters largely into the con- sumption of the people of this country, snd they are now actually obliged to pay one- third of the value in the shape of duty. Of course this is done to fill the pockets of the Canav'ians. Then again there is starch, which they wish us to buy from Canada, and hence tliey impose a higher duty on the im- 13 poiced article; bat < ir ladies prefer the Lon- di>i>. Btrrch, and will not jj irohf w the inferior article frjui t'ue Canadiaos. Well aillcsn say if, that tk»ey may dtt«T!jioe si much as they like to maka us buy their starch, but J thin": before we ait done with them w« will hi.ve taken tUc starch out of them. I iball say nothine about flour, ft. 1 a du.y on it previously, but take o^ru ii.ul and r>e, which oertuinly should n be taz^d, entering an they do, especially i ii former, into the consuraption of tlw »/Oorer ol»«ww. Cinnamon, nutmegs, ginger, mace, &o., are charged 25 per cent , ijut I do not care what duty is imposed on theio things, for th^^ t.re chiefly used by the rich Tea is changed 3i ceuis a lb. and 15 per cent, advalorem. H is urged by soa.e that we do not pay more than a half ceiit a lb. additional, but I have oal* culated that it will amount to 2 /cents on tea, which costs Is. 4d. sterling a lb.. Now there there is white lead. In Canada dry white lead is used, and therefore it comes in, duty free, but if there is a little oil in it, it is taxed 15 per cent. The Canadians have their own oil wells and prepare the paint themselves. The Ualigoniang, on the other hand, prefer to buy the prepared article, because it saves a vast amount of trouble. We have to import the mills and th-j oil to prepare it; and it would therefore give us a great deal gf ex« pense and trouble. As rt^peots raolasses we cannot complain. Mr. Archibald told us on one occasion, whilst they used sugar in Ca- nada, very many of our pe^- pie used molasses. So we mutt give him cr L )r this change which is intended, dou. . :.-, as a fly trap. Rigging, and all kinds ^ ' iron for vessels are duty free, but under our own tariff such things only paid 5 per cent. Why the ship owners can better afiford to pay a i^aall duty nn Vila troQanl'a niateriala than n,nv nthpr nlttis on his vesEcrs materials than any other class of persons in businees. Give us our libeities, and I will guarantee that the hon. members from Yarmouth, Mr. Townsend and Mr. Ryerson, will gUiJly pay 5 per cent, again. The price of cotton warp has been raised, al- though it erters so largely into the consump- tion of our poorer clasdes, from 5 to 15 per cent. This is certainly a hard case tor those people who manufacture doth, which they sell to buy flour and other ircesuries of life. Just one more item for example, the duty ou low price soap from England will be increased lUOO per cent. If the bon. member for In- verness will (as heedd) have the Colchester oois in rags, he surely, surely, should not use his influence to deprive them of cheap Boap to keep them clean. It will be rememr bered that the ad valorem duties in Canada was 20 per cent for a number of years, but last year they lowered it to ' j per cent, for the purpose, no doubt, of making Confedera- tion acceptable to the Maritime Provinces. It is well known, however, that Canada went largely behind even with a 20 per cent tariff, and that being .tbe caspjipw is 15 per cent to meet her necessrtipe ? tSJiat does Mr. Rose say ? The Canadian Jj^^rnal of Commerce tells us that ac.ordiCig'.to ;^Mr. Rose's «^ures of the finances of last.year, under a i per cent tariff, Canada went behind at the rate of five or six millions', of dollars. Sup- pose tb'y do not putcliaBe the North Weet ** ft " Hi 98 ! i Terrjtory or bu.ld the Interooloni.l R»ilwav yet they cannot meet the expenditurw wi-h the present 15 per cent duty *"="""""* W' » ♦h^rL^K^T''^ ^l°"»l told" U8 the other d»v ont inV„ siV** ""^ ° N^" Brunswick, one in jnot* Scotw, one in Ont»rio anH n7>Z baye at the capital two*i sets of oflBcials thll ;"« on« ol"8,of people speaSg IWu h »nd the other French. I believe though thf„ may be theoretically one goylrnment tLpr^ Bury point of view. I think then if thpl could not live under a 20 per cent tii/ i?L*wu"h°.V"''''y *° """^ all their expS' ly fnc7eatei " Sn^^'"' °^ government Urge ^est CrftnV^ "^r!" '« ♦'*'^'' '" the North west lerntory, what an immense trart J^f aSS^hV?.^'" ^'^^ *« ''^ opened up by roadfl troubSi'r^P°l« '^' aborisriL become ^srmffr^^r^^ op 7 I have no hesitation in expreBsinn- inv opinion that it must steadily rfse^as T„^ff as ?o«r«Tf ? "* *'''« Confederation In ^the course of time we must see it as high as 30 fZThu"*'^ P*"" ce^^t- at the vefy 'east Only let the Canadians get a firm cra.n nf The hoi mLY'% "'A' "P f^tSgh' otherdrv" wiM L^?'>''""'' "J^'d us the g-e'r2;^to sa"/.''r ffits^rarii have given up nearly everything and con wl"»"fT'.'i' mentioning what we have kft What did Mr. Archibald tell us at one of our meetings when he was told of the evilfl «".! burthens of Confederation ? Why hi actual- wind'?o",h«ih' ^° r^"}^ *'y anS'^emp'er the wind to the shorn lamb, thereby confrwin^ Slor'lnvp'r^ ^t,* "P'^'^- Th« hoS.^m S5 tioni? nirt nA'u? ''"' S?."« into the constitu- ofr?!fXp*^"'.*l"'.'"°°5he has spoken the Corn Ta^J"'""'^?:''""' "^the abolition of PeeUnd Mr Pit? "" ^" ?""'S'^«'» ^ir Kobert h^^t -^ "y memory from some old bovs'r finH".^ valise pat 'there by my lit, J «tt^c^Lti^; T^ ;tTr?gd Act. while o«ly 357 were"^ pSen%5^^" « ft! th« r"" 7>'** *>«y save freedom to Ireland the Canadian Act has placed us in bondaee in iJfi*?.'''*'°*^« "P"lof the Corn Laws i'r1.S-N^^! %=i? .°L wheat;;^,K DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS fiu ^rcJnt^arKoth^er^r^^ f "«''«"» to be borne, as well as depriving us of the liberty we have so long enjoyed ^ J^J'^"'^ *^' ^'- *'»'* " authority for Seopfe Tm\v v'l* f"*'°" ^"dependent o^f tLa ^„» V / ,, ?^, * '^^ ■•*« >n saj Dg that he waH rorVonK- i' *^'» J'""* hf had the h!r- rors 01 tne i< I'pnnh ravni..t:»_ .• . . and with the oaV-I oftlie sfaleTndIhe «S quantity of Btimulatii..> drinks he thoni?l,t he required to stay his great mind wemav put against him Mr. Gray and Mr ETskTn? XV7 *''»'•*"»" «"eht not tTbe govern not f IT: '° ^^' '""'"^ of which-'hrh^ not a voice, or pay taxes to which he had not consented in the same way " bonk«°f«"' f'°J^ert .I^'eel. the political text book of Great Britain says, "fle was not - man of original genius or invenSveThSught to him through his whole career. ' • Reeister ?of edtV^'^''*'' T"^ "^'^ his ownrhebor.' rowed it from a celebrated political iournal f.\Th«"r°i°PP""'i°? *» himself where t IB to be tound years before he ever give ntter- n c ealVT'"^- ?'" "'^^'^ waf Jopti^I. now creative; he was the mirror of the aire not Its director; his leading ideas and nrfn: c.ples were taken from others In moretary affairs he only elaborated the ideas of M? theXlllSJ ZA''"r' fi"t ena"ciated"in tne ^ulhon Report In supporting the Corn Laws, he adopted the arguments of I nrS Liverpool and Lord Castlere^h;"^ assailing {f!,"JhoseofMr. B.ight anf Mr CobJe" Hon V-*""*""" '° the Catholic Emancipa- t^^on; his arguments admirable on both sides nool »*„?M**py "^'^^'^ ^'°^ L^rd L^veri &r PlunkJt';^n'*'*'\"J ^'' Canning and to Mr niar ',• li. ^'.^ ^^'« ^hioh suglested to Mr. Disraeli the felicitous expression that S^J??K"'if " " huge appropriation daue." au?horit?e'. I c;r?^^^"°*''«*'°°«"tutionsl •n^ fj K? ' ^ °*.° '■^^^ "how you their value and enable you to estimate them at their uro per standard. But he has told us about Cape Breton, and asks whether that"eland is ?»L° n'?* under Confederation. Howoould Cape Breton be otherwi.e than satisfied wUh ^Z°«T^ ^T ^°°''* ^ Compare the po sition of Cape Breton now with what it was afew years ago. The ladies then did no? wear their silks and satins, or the men dress in broadcloth; they did nut evenT" ?heir lhh£:t3"- Now they are connected Tevenupp \?H J • """^ Participate in its large we narSfi A'^H^'f IP^-^^Perity. Where we paia oe. a head into the treasury for munv yf'"' the people of Cape Bre!on proSy did not pay more than Is., wnile they rei ceived an equal amount per head with IT and probably more. But that is not the ewe t.a and Canada. We being coasumers of .In tiable goods will pay 30^ a head whil« tw will pay about half that amount, and get a^ equal share per head with us fromthfreve" nue It 18 said we will have one law-one m.litia system-one currency. But supnose Tn fc'n °' currency, how wiil it beneltW Jda th^v hZT".''' Newfoundland and Can- H^!.7i^ *'^^*'^ '^"e currency, but what ?.f" 't »'°'>""t to 7 The par of exchange in Canada and New Brunswick is 9i per cent" ours IS 12i percent. The latt.u fs ^equal to jjaris. »ne U.itifih shilling be na Is 3d an,» he sovereign 20s If wolre forced to adoot the Unsda and New Brunswick currenov ^ will be equal to adding one-fifthjtherefof; \f you are reauired to «?,, i. qj ' °. "'^'il- " you will be at the trouble nf'»ri'^°j A ^Vx'^^' co.per coin to each amount. " We & Tw" OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. d» Britieh North America; and if they adopt oars it will oonfer no boon on us. as it is aii rieh't without them. Suppose we have one currency ; while the balance of trade li.agamst ns our paper will not be take:, at par in Can- »da unless our Banks have agents there to Tfideem it. I may say here that in ^ewfound. land the old system of adding the ninth and the premium is diioontinued, and instead they add 22 or 24 per cent., according to the '^*No°one will deny but that the ton. member for Inveyness has made a great speech, butjso f»r as argument go-i it reminds me ol a SorJ to" me of thi celebrated Whitfield An old lady once went to hear him. but could not eet near him in consequence of the crowd, but Bhe sat herself down on a large stone where a gentleman passing by saw her weepins, and Mked her what was the mat er She replied that she was converted. "But, my good woman." said the questioner, " you have not Kd him speak.'' "Oh, no," was the re- nlv "but I saw the shake of his head. Neither the hon. gentleman's argument nor iheEhakeof his head will. I think, effect us as it did the old lady. ME. CAMPBELL'S SPEECH. Mr. Campbell said-I am very happy to see that the hon. member for Colchester is fir better versed in the momentous question before us than he is with »he f ooial P°«tion of Cape Breton. I do not think hat the hon gentleman has been in Cape Breton from the description he has given of the country, but the able manner in which he pointed out the disadvantages of Confederation will cover* multitude of Bins in that particular The learned gentleman remarked here to-day that in military tactics it is the usual custom to bring the small guns to the front. If such has been uniformly the practice, I find that in this campaign we have made a sweeping change. Nearly all our great guns have fired off with good effect ; and now commences a fusillade of small guns, and as we are not much in danger from the enemy in front, tue officers in command do not think it necessary to throw out skirmishers. »«* that accounts for finding us in the rear. When Union be- came the law of the land. I »ii»5« "P.'^y ™^f ' with many Anti-Confederate {"ends, to give it a fair trial, fully convinced that, before the end of the year, its greatest friends and warmest advocates would be deeply disap- pointed; but at the same time we determined if it should turn out such a blessing as our Confederate friends anticipated, then we would accept the situation. Now we have had eight months of this millenium. and m what position are we 7 Twelve months ago wo were a self-governing people, we looked with pride on our past history, we indulged in hopeful anticipations for the future; but in what position are we to-day ? The Cana- dlans have full control ef ourselves and our finanoes-our public burthens are made heavy, and to meet those burthens our tariB is increased from ten to fifteen percent., and if we felt it would stop faoro, »e migui i??. less apprehension. But when we become proprietors of the Hudson's Bay Territory, for which we are expected to pay from 30 to 50 millions of dollars— when we beoone share- holders in the Intercolonial Railway, it is no stretch of the imagination to say that 15 p«r cent will not meet our annual liabilities. When that occurs, shall we not, in the figu- rative language of one of our newspapers, have " one foot on the Atlantic and the other on the Pacific." „. ^ , It is said that the most intelligent people voted in favor of Union. I admit that many highly intelligent persons, some of them my best friends, voted in favor of Union, and if if were not for such persons Confederation would long ere this have given up the ghost in the hands of that eminent acoouoher, Ur. Tupper. I would say, however. With much respect to the Union party, that after the forty days legislation at Ottawa, after the humiliating position they see our representa- tives placed in, voted down on every subject, if after all this they still remain the advo- cates of Confederation, I cannot have the same high opinion of their intelligence and patriotism. We have noiP but one course before us. and that. I think, is ; ^-"'y «""• bodidd in the resolutions on the table. 1 reel confident that the Act which now hinds us to Canada will be repealed-that the British Parliament would scout such a policy as tnat Lord North upheld nearly a century ago— that the people of Great Britain 'ho have ever been eminent for their love of liberty and fair play will not treat our petition with scorn, but instead of that will feel proud of us as the descendants of that noble stock that would rather die with their swords in their hands than yield one iota of their con- stitutional rights. I am proud to see 89 much unanimity in this Assembly ; I never saw fo much before among so many men on one question-so many men brought from every part of the province representing ».efe« variety of interests. I have no doubt that before long the solitary two who now form the opposition will see the error of their ways and fall into our ranks, and if they do I can tromise them they will be received with open arms.^ We are always glad when we see sin- ners repent. In conclusion. I need only say that for me to go into the merits of the case would be altogether out of place after the in- controvertible arguments brought forward during this debate by my Anti- Confederate friend! They have not left the fabric of a vision for the opposition to grasp at. MB. KIDSTON'SSPKKCH. Mr. KiDSTON said -.-In rising to addresa the HouE3 on this most important question, i fjelthatitis one fr.vught with ! the deepe t nterestto the people of this Prv'">o«5, ^u* before commenting on the resolutions laid on fhe table, I may say that I shall endeavor so to modulate my voice that it will not disturb in the least the equanimity of the hon. rnem. bar for Inverness. That gentleman reminded me of a passage of arms that once took place on the floois of this House b«tween the Hon. Joseph Howe and the late P'0™^\ f;°"; t»ryrDr. Tapper. The former said. If >ou ,a.i.V the devil he will fly f'om you, but if you resist Dr. TupBcr he will fly at you." This gentleman (the member for Inverness) 100 1:1 /'I I' f Botg in much the aame way, and appears in- clined to fly at every member who endeavo« try. I ehall not travel over the ground that was traversed by the Hon. Attorney General a layine the resolutions on the table, for I i^XT ^Vc^'uPies. »nd it would be a ^«h^f. L'T t"^ ^i '° recapitulate those points which have been already and tho- 3V^K"*PP^*f ^ "»y remark with re- spect to the amendments moved by the hon f.Zrl'/V nvernea that he has ta^ken a Jery superficial view of the question. I did not ?« \n?? P«*«n'Ji°B t« l>»ve a knowledge of }'7?,|'."' I assume that I«m at least capable of sitting m a jury box in this country, and mat J. am at liberty to form my own oninioni upon any facts that may be advanced bjle- Kal gentleman around me. The hon. Mem- ber for Inverness has taken the liberty of quotmg certain authorities in connection with constitutional law. When he brings up member has shown to this House and to the people of this Province that he was only tra- U- Infl^' «"/(?c« of .English constitutional aw instead of divmg into the depths of that law. 1 think it one of the most important points to put the question fairly before the WkT?,."^^°«\"i'- ^'••' »"ow «"« to refer bnck to the year 1 866. What occurred then 7 We know that thirty-two gentlemen then on thebenches, the hon. member for Inverness included, practised the most systematic de- ception upon the people of this Province. Td thaMi,»?i^ * ^*' i^'" deception practised that the Governor 'a ijpeeoh did not contain one word abuut Confederation. Wo may nre- ^i?K^ ^'"Z^^^''^' t'^"* tJ^«y acted more as If they had been elected under the electoml privileges of. Nova Scotia to represent "and •d",!/)?^ Vr' *^^ 'Dterests of New Bruns- wick rather than the views and interests of K.iJt?"'?f ?'^'''' P'oceediug further on ^^.L^^^fi^ alBO contend that the resolution passed by the Government then holding the reins of power, was not such as would war- rant the people of this Province beinr- de- prived of their rights in the way the^have &, ^ ^'^'l' '^**.'^« °^J«ot of that rtJo! utiou, worded as it is. left an impression on KtlTr^l^J '^^ People of this Province that after maturing this measure in England, it ^oul^n%'f^T,'V r«*'° ^-^ the people at'the ?l.li Vf *•>« Parliament of th:. Province. I shall not trouble.the House by readinj, the ihTl^T/^''' ^"l''^' '»^'°1» is conta ned in the resolutions now before us, but I cannot in my own mind conceive how it can be so mis- vlrt?"'^ u' •' " }'y ^^' •'on. member for In- verness, who would attempt to impress the Idea upon this House and the country, that it was intended to give the power to theie dele" gates to proceed to lingland and mature a law which was to deprive us of ou.- rights rev- enues and liberties. I contend that no rel- souable man ot sound judgment can put any other construction on the resolution, than Ihon^K^f*™® Powarwas delegated to them Pi-Ai T Y",«"^° ^'i*" they went to Prince Edward Island to take into flnn«i'««>"t!"" ""- prui>nety and benetitB to reiult^wmi union DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS of the Maritime Provinces. Sir, I repeat, from the OBtset and all through deffionBrt coTntr^y'"*'""* "P°° the^eopl? of th? n.^L""!!'?^^' ^«" that a resolution was pa»sed in his House authorizing the Gov-r" to t"akeVnVn ^'""'T' *,° "PP"'"^* delegltion to take into consideration the practicability ^ifa^^'^l"^- ^ ^'"•'"« Provinces. How d 5 they act with reference to that matter ? They were told to treat the question in a legal »n J f?vp!*« ^/ •".*L'».y- ^"^ People's repfesenfa. vi„.ir'TK'"^ *'''" ^'^ the JVIaritime Pro- nna fn;i, P^^ I'T °°* Permitted to travel ?n<^ lwt''*yu''"?. '^»*- B"* '"tead of keep, i?,^' •'11° the limits ofoonstitutionslautho. nty, without any sanction on the part of the people of this Province, they took up the que* len of the larger unionf and left t" ?o"l'Li° '-^i"^ ^tl '*=••« '«K»»y authorizSd loinlL''n'''-K What then? We find them frn^^n^ Quebec at the instigation of men from Canada who came to Charlottetowh. who persuaded the Maritime Delegates into usurping an authority and a power, wh oh. conEtitntionally they could not exeroje Sri^^.^""? *o C*"-^"' there they perpetri- ilJlX'' *" ''''l°> ^^ l^'ought down upon them the execration of the people of this Province.. Let me suppose for*^ a moment . case in point: a rnvrcantile firm in this city employs an agent to transact certain busi- ness m Prince Edward Island. He is res. I'Tinf^Tu^ •'^°'f° '' perform cert "n acfs. and while he is engaged in thirbusiness at Prince Edward Island, some black legs come down from Canada and persuade him !p-.'l°"fu fl" "master's instructions and pro. ceed with them to Canada, and the first tfiing SpT.^L?"? ^"'J '' ^'"^ ^^ ''" °ot trans- hnf 1 * k"!""'??""" ^hichhe was delegated, but that he has tjken tLe liberty of handine over hjs master's property to a party he had Th'^ h"n„^'^'*y l" H"^ f''^- Now I pit itlj law wi; T'^^^'^ !°^ Invercess if a case eimi- ar to that came befere him. how would he put It to a jury 7 How would it be dealt with7 I'ZrV^ "", ^^'^ penitentiary at hard labor would be given the oflFending party; and I this time that he did not protect his employ, er's rights? That oflioial gentleman was among them helping them. ' 1,. «"*'''"k^"^'.^?,**'« °«t place that I have an abiding faith when all the facts con- neoted with this question are faithfully and '■«^''^J'k''[ '"'^ betorethe Parliament of Ens- land, that we will receive ample jnstice. It must be rcraembcrcd. by all thb people of this fopT'.l,'"'' *•"* ^^^^ *'"' elections were run in ifn 4K *? "!*" two questions which influen- ced the electors at that time very materially and one point was, that Dr. Tapper, who was previously to that in opposition, brought down a series of resolutions into this House 1/"°M ''^ retrenching certain expendi. turcs. He was opposed, and in the heat of debate he pledged his soul's salvation that he would introduce retrenchment if he should ^uZT!f \'l P"''"'*- . ' ^°o^ ^l"** this one ml?n ^ ii*'-'" •'^''^ influenced the country materially in giving Lim such a large main- sjti „nca tile eieoiions were over, and the other (question which assisted him U^ely i, I'. 4 OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 101 wM the Frwohise act. The people believing ThW • o« who htd pledged his «oul'8 s»lT.- tionmMtbe sincere, returned hlm.»nd h» Wendl with an oyerwhelmiuK majority to this LegUlature. This House and *&« c«««- iry know how far he ha* '^deemed hat »ledee-the language which he used was that KVreligioA Ijleitine. _ What rjgbt ha. »ny man to pledge his soul's 8%lvat.onf Look at the extravagant waste of money in ^orsethan useless delegations-the^Tery re^ verse Of his pledge to the people. I ask jou no" is that man to be believed, ami ,s he no^ wandering about the world with his los roul Will any man hesitate to bchcve that we wi'lDOt obtain justice from the Br.t sh Parliament when the case is fairly and fully put before them 7 When they are iully. con- vinced that they have been grossly deceived, they will feel more annoyed than we do at this moment, and will take such action as will heap upon the heads of the guilty parties the just reprobation which they deserve. Mr. Bright, who was the able advocate of thrpeople's right in the House of CommonN stated tbat this question should be submitted ?o he p^ple at the polls, and knowing that the elwtions would take place, m a few months, he asked that the law m^\J'fJ'' ToTotd upon the Province. Mr. Watkin, misled b/Dr. Tupper, said the qv.« Uon had been discussed ** «'"y PO'^'^S b ?S. Tun previous general election-that he, (»'• Cop- per,) had preached it from one end of the Province to the other. I ask you could Mr. Watkin have perpetrated such a statcmrnt as that? Could it have emanated from him? Any one who takes the trouble to read the speeches in the House of Lords, will see that the same belief pervades every line of them They do not deny our right to be heard *t the polls, but believed we had been "-onsulted. If the hon. member for Inverness is correct in his views, how comes it that the Dominion Parliament, at the present moment, nave passed a measure authorizing them to nego- tiate for the purchase of the Hudson's Bay Territory? If the British Parliament is en. trusted with the control of such matters, why do they not legisla»e away the rights of the Hudson Bay Company, and bring i' "»»« ^^f Dominion, as has been the case with Nova SooUa? It appears, however, that they have ?oen?erintonegoci'.tions with the Company and purchase it. But I would ««»"''. t''»*I •have always understood that the right w th regard to our mines and minerals was vested in the Crown, and it is a notorious fact that although the Duke of York f"ly intended to make I conveyance to Rundell & «ridgc it was never done,, but, as »t was intended to I --e been done, it wan decided that Rundell & Bridge should be treated and negooiated with, as though the lease had been executed before we could get control of our mines and minerals. On a former ocoaiion I promised to show the hon. member for Inveineis that, in a flnfsncial point of view, great injustice had been done, as we find the framers of this Bill have given the power to the general Go- vernment aot only to tax ub indirectly, but by every mode they may think proper. 1 ■tated thai i w»b leaajr to pro7CBa«=i='»''-"-'j itt iwlnt of fMt, that we did not receive one cent from the Dominion Government. Our revenue at the end of the year 1866 is «t down at $1 126,670. We find now by the Tariff in- troduced at the first session of the Dominion Parliament, we have some ^600,000 of an ad- dition in tjxes. Then the 80 cents a head we J ceive can be t«keu out of that SCOO.OOO, [herefore they pain over »200,000 by the transaction. But the ni.»tter does not end here Our revenues during the patt len vear's have increase.! somfthing like 250 per ?cnt . aed, in ell probability, our financial prosperity would contiuu- to increane. But however greatly the revenues ''f t^.V'.^X.?- ruftv increase, we atetieil down to this 80 etc. although our revenue should realize three or four millions, wo will derive no further b-^ne- fit I believe the Union Act was hurried through the House of Commons m 6ach a hasty manner that they have overlooked these facts, or otherwise they would never have per- petrated such a wrong upon this -o^intry. The gentleman who addre«- "d the House before me has given many m>. al detail* res- uecttDg the tariff. He forpot, hov.ever, whiUt noticing a variety * f items, to notice the tax on Inaian corn. Ihe hou. member for Inverness treated it with a sneer; but look at the btite of our province at this mo- ment. From Cape No«-th to Cape Sable our iishermen are in great distress, and the very article they require the inoit is taxed, not only are ourfisaermen deprived of the means of eetting their bread cheap, but the article we might have imported and ground into food in the province is taxed ; hence our millers are deprived of a benefit also, ihe hon. member for Inverness told us that any country under the British Crown that would attempt to introduce a tariff that would be restrictive would be acting contrary to its true interests. I ask the hon. member for Inverness if the tariff that has been intro- duced by Canada is not. tp * g/ca* "'ejt carrying out this principle? I think he must be blitd if he cannot see this I en- dorse the opinions of gentlemen on the anti- confederate Bide with regard to this tavitt that has been passed by Canada, and 1 have no doubt whatever that instead of seeing the tariff decreased, it will be largely increased, and be made more distasteful than ever to our people. In connection with .this, let me take up the address of the Financial Minister of Canada, Mr. Rose, when ho brought down the tariff into the Dominion Parliament. Ue said :— •• It cannot be supposed, from the circumstances surrounding me, that I couH bring down such a tariff as would suit all patties and purposes at present, but by the time we meet in March I have no doubt in my own mind that I will furnish such a tariff as will stand and meet all the burthens for five or six years." I believe in my own mind, and from what Mr. Rose saia, tbat the tariff will be largely increased,-for what have we leen? The Dominion Government have succeeded in having a bill passed in the Parliament authorizing that Government to negotiate for the purchase of the Hudson s Bay Territory, and for assuming the whole control of the Intercolonial Railway. When a ffovernment bccomee possessed of such a gigwtio power m thw, depeaa uiiou a, 5*« 102 burthen. L governo'e^'inf^ '"^'^ ** '^« meet, who doubts th.uKtS'fr'"' '•b"««^ *<> to 24 or 30 per 09nt Lf^ **J'^ ™"«t go ud P»8«ed .w.y ? " ''''°" '»«'«, year. h^vS thirteen State., wd I would ?'^f/ *'"' «'«» like ouraelve*. were oir«^ . ,"^ '^^^ *l»ey, Brit»in-they w«e on„- I ^?''"'*" "^ Great J?g in that Ea,Jire.°Sut thTT'J^ '«-"»'*- ««h statesmen im?o.ed tU« ■'"fl'^i'y of JJri- ou them withm t fhf "*' *"" of men been considered a mf.f". "Sht-thinking •re ohauKeJ. anTfn ou^l^J'^^e- .""' «mef very different Bnhit.o^ .*^ ^^ "i 1 find a of iingland; aTdf fS^io"^ l!"' ""««'^" "brought ftirly before .t^R *•?•'''" "«« ment they will reflect caref.S„^"'*!* ^"'i*' "'' 'n all probabilS rSh^°1*''*""«"". with the old thirteen S?'""' ^"^ " ^^'ed ofthe water simply bec.u"fS "" '*'•• «*de 8ubmutoact.o/iiustioe~ ''"^ """^^^ "«* forU^'n^;s?a •ft 'tt the ^on. member o»»tover the oountr* »h.f° '^'"'' '""""d- who open, his mouth iA h«? "^''*' member •titutional rivhi. m„«i°hf ^'^^n*'* of hi. con- dor. No. si^f it i,"*??, ''^ *rv^"'" "'• * »"*- because loyalty ha. L'^nV "'"se. It jg c»U8e it hSs ^row' anj ..»" rj'*" ""-be- our »treng,h.1harwe "il'A f^V*''"^'^ »i'h ta go fearlessly to the plt.i. '" *"« ""'' ^«ty "d warn the .t?teemen of Zf **^^"S'"'' the consequences Th.» "*"' country of 'oroing u.i"t"» det^sfil n'^ "•»« '^om be recreant to our duty in"/''''- ^^« ^""'^ we acted otherwise haS?h° °" *^"'«° '^ doing. Any gentleman ih "*^ "" ■•'e know «nything'',bouuhB T^.- **f'"^°EBAT1ES AND PROCEEDINGS •bated except TyX repeal o^'fth"" T"' ''« Act I ft,, tbatlwonid L,)^'l°*',»°«iou, the duty imposed i7n„n^' ^ dischar^ine first opportS n?"" ""' ".nlesa I took tbf They tell us thit peoBle h*c« k *"''. country, by other matter,K the ^^'"' '"fl^ioirl Confederation. I repjv th^?""* ^''"*'«° «f county is concerned Isee^hlf «„ *!/" *• ""f nfluenoed the electionTeiir^K '*'?''"""»» the people to this „°°o "^Pj. he hatred of »»y that if thi. que. fon LV J""*"'"' to morrow, and every othfr T" *"bmitled to- he people would retun.o^S'V''"* ^^^ same gentlemen who now .?f *hi8 H„„,p ^^ Mdno other.. Am I to h« f m*."!."* ''""hes iiament and people of %nL"4 '^?' 'he Par- derstand all this? Am r ?'V"^ "" »ot un- cause the wealth an/".',,'." ''«' ^old that be. »»ke of argumemi «ri *' t" ^^ »o for the therefore the pitn.^"^ "" /*'•"• of union fhould deu!de aSsrur/w 11^"*' ^^'^^^ that the Parliament nfP'*."*'''°«"gue here to a pJS^^ lt^!!'^i-o.Ul Id- here to "a ^ar ^Ur o.f ?«'»°^ Voul, fj": empire bee!!"; the LSlth 'nS if T/-'"* ^»«» the city of iondon KenfiS t^ '^''S*""of tain side. A. retiZoUthJ^^ ■ *'* "° • cer- where is the d?lfe renU and'I'r ^'"^^^''y* Ple..ur^e ^ever'y* iddr*!? &.' ^''^ ^'"' ed on this question inTvofoA.^"" ''^"" tions. I am gratified to «« ^f *'"'*? ^«ola. mityand^euoh d'termin.f' "^ "» much unani. «o one attempt to m«"'tir.e"te'"'^''r !'«' Ifwe were inclined to «Mi^f r'?^*' °ow. would not seek redress fn Si „'^'«'«.y«I'y we manner we are doiD^ u^^ constitutional b3'l> ofrepresentat ve^s „?7l-*°^ ««« *hi. carrying oa the n. h^;^ « "i. Exoellenoy "iously.* WeZ*2^?inil*'fi.h'^"" ^"'»°- ''onatitutionally butT,r, ^^ht our battle position that the eemlnl "^"^ '™"" the tered awav o..^ -^ u "'^™®" *ho have bar- home to L„"„dSh •""''^- The? we" «uadedtheBrti8hP«MJ" ^°*«'" "^ Per- ;;f • most tyraScal chSt-suT " ^' ^^^^^:i^^J^S^ Of" at' ?h.ow our Sovereign anKri "'^Pfople, and iDjmtioe that hi. h„!„ ^*rliament the great We say to Her Alaiestv if^''^^'^^^ "Pon u« •• The^gent?emenTh?were herS^.*""**'- men whose words were r«r»K® ''"'^?''« 'ere men who betrayed th.rr^ '"'""• ^^"^^ ^"e ceievedyour Qovernmenf """n""^' ""^ <*«- ^c??A!sriE^l^^^^ =pini Of iibeffy wirr'tn^ir*/''' '°*' ''h« ground. Let on., il!^ *" . '* down to ths i^et our opponent. „, what (hey -'A'S'-y^ Of THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 103 mty we shall hftve reitored to at that glorions constitution under wbioh we have lited and prospered so long— under which onr revenuts hate largely inorcased from year to year, and under which tho people have enjoyed every happiness. The House then adjourned. Satchdat, February 15. The House met at 11 o'clock. Hon. J Fehqcsson introduced a bill enti- tled an Act to amend the Act incorporating the Mira Bay Harbour Co. Mr. Pinko presented a petition from the trujtecs of Pictou Academy, praying that no alteiation be mwde in the existing school law. He asked that tho bill relative to the Scotia Coal Company be read a stoond time, but his request could not be granted, as it might interfere with the debate on the reso- lutions. , , , Mr. CoPELAND presented a petition m re- ference to a poor section. The adjourned debate was resumed. {Mr. Kidston^s tpeech concluded.) Mr. KiDSTON continued :— -I closed my o )« servations last evening with the remark that it was my firm conviction, and 1 believe it to be the firm oonviocion of every well regulated mind in the Province of Nova Scotia that tho fabric which we have seen raised on the foun- dation of corruption when assailed by the force of truth and fact will crumble into dust. This Confederation reminds me of an anec- dote vrhich I remember hearing of a certain horse trader who was thus accosted by the man who had just puTohased one of bis horses : " my good man you have got my money, and I have your horse— now that the bargain is concluded tell me hit faults while we take a bottle of alo together. ' * The reply was *• well the. horse hag only two faults,— one is that when you let him loose he ishard to catch,— the other is that when you hare caught him he is not worth a c nt " Our 1 argain is as bad as that one. The measures of tho very first Ottawa Parliament give ua full evidence, as far as Nova Sootia "is con- cern d, that the legislature of Canada is un- British in its principle, arbitrary and despo- tic in tho exercise of power. We have full evidence, as far as patronage is concerned, that it has been denied to those who went there to advocate our interests; for our mem- bers were told " you must swallow your Anti-confederate principles and support tho Canadian Government at all hazards, or wslk; you need not otherwise ask us to make this, that, or the other appointment." That is the actual stats of aflairs. I will now con- fino myeelf more particularly to the .^th clause of tho resolution, for that cm odies a great deal. The hon. member for Inverness said that we had been gencrouily dealt by— that the Dominion Government had paid $000,000 more than they had received from Nova Scotia since Confederation. All I can say in that easels that he has placed himself on the horns of a dilemma, for if that be tho f--.. 1 1 it. ^^ ^*.^.««.«? Ru tVtik afraf o- ment of the Finance Minister, just before Confederation took effect, it was shewn that we had an overflowing treasury, money ■ufiiCient for all our demands, and with only ■iz months experience of the Union, we Are told that the Dominion Government have been obliged to advance ut $600,000 over and above what we have paid into their treatury. But the change it easily account- ed for. Look at the system on which the Union it financially founded. Look at the Governor Gneral'ttalary, and take that at a criterion. $50,000 kat to be raised in a Dominion comprising four millions of peo- ple to pay its first officer. Contrast that with the sum which the United States, with a po- pulation of 34 millions, pay to their Presin dent. The turn paid in that country it $35, 000, and the difference it greater than at firtt would appear, for the talary of the Governor General m paid in sterling money, the amount in gold being equal to-day to $80,000 of the currency of the United States, f. nd are not the sa ariet of all the officials appointed un- der the Dominion Government proportio ed to that enormous salary of the Governor General 7 Is that the management that was to be expected? One would have supposed that the Government of Canada, with the ex- perience of the past before them— with a knowledge that, through financial bungling, they have reduced the state of their country almost to bankruptcy, would have had a care how they governed the Dominion Take the statement exhibited in the Journals of 18U6, and what do we find 7 The figures shew that their whole system was unsound. The Canadas were involved in a debt of sixty-four millions or more, and at the pre- . sent moment I think I am correct in saying that that debt is nothing less than seventy •■ five millions. Mr. Archibald tried to per- suade us that our debt exceeded that of Cana- da, taking man for man of tha population. Let us see how that assertion talliea with the fact. Assuming the debt of Canada to have been sixty- four millions and upwards, and her population 3,560,000, while the popula- tion of Nova Sootia may be put at 350,000, we see the debt per head on the Cana- dians will be $25 while that of the Nova Scottans will be only $15. Now, then, to show the unsoundness of the arrangement, put down the debt of Canada for two Canadians at $50, and the debt of two Nova Soolians at $30.— this produces $80; and if you divide by four you will have the debt per head of the Dominion, and the calculation will prove that every man, woman and child iu this country is put in for $3 per head more of debt than he has any reason to pay. This $3 per head gives us for the whole Province nearly a million of dol'ars which we have done nothing to make ourselves liable for. 1 find, , circulated through the country, tho ■tateiflent that if we had not been confederated we must have increased our tariff'. This is merely one of the assertions, used by the Op- position, which they are unable to prove. I contend that such would not have been the cate. It is acknowledged on both sides that at the date of Confederation coming into force we were in a most prosperous condition. Oar revenuei had risen from $660,000 to $1,226,570. Judging the future by the past, I ihould lay that it would not be neoet- 104 wry to increase our tariff by one na» »„,,* * meet aU our requirements. ^C ^the faL 2 that as soon aa ever you back the Ponf-^i r.t€« out of one false position they dronfin" another equaUy ridiculous. Fratthe^t",? DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS Jbo peo^e to gi;ra' fl twK he^t"''? iwgioai reasoning. It is about as sound >« for thew»toh..8et at t«e bow of the vesse, entrusted w.th the care of thousands ofTves and' sTv°^..w:n''TH *''^*^' ''^ ^"'^ ^i- arms ana say . well, there are breakers aheirt but let_ the ship run on. and will see wheK the rocks or the ship are the hrrde"'' WoJ W the oaptam accept such reasoning as that from hM watch? The hon. membi for In verness turned attention to Cape Breton and cited her history as a proof that the Werral IthoS't'- "^/«'«°"'» of .;ounrry^ itorv n5 Sk! p"* ^""^^'^ acquainted with the He said f- ^^^ "'•*'* ^"''^^ ♦'"»'> *•>»" " The IsIftDd of Capo Breton pcaeBied a .B^...f con.Utu,ion, it had a GovernorK GovernmeTof U« own independent of the Province ctNavlTs^ii The House of Co^.^on. came in and by a Jnele Ai?' contamiDg perhaps not a dozen of li«es am» /Jm..! .' the Ulacd with Nova Scotia The i, lan^wf.^tif '^ only two member, in a Legislature of forty men." The island, it will be remembered had no Legislature of its own. I believe I am cor- rect la stating that it petitioned to be an- nexed to Nova Scotia, f know that parties were sent home to dispute the legali y of the Union and to carry the matter before he Privy Council, and I think the delegates then had thrown in their teeth the factlhat that pttitiou deprived them of the right to the re- peal they solicited. The hon. member is also in error in saying that we had two represent" fttives; we had only one at that time. But whn does this illustration go to prove? Many in Cape Breton think it prove^s eub- slant.ally the very facts which we are pro- pounding to the people of Nova Scotia- they say that the island could never procure justice at the hands of the Qovernt^ent of Nova Scotia until it obtained additional re- presentation. ^ The hoii. member touched, Mr, Saeaker on grounds which, if followed out fftithfuliv and truthfully, would show his ^Sn ^ ^ be false and untenable. We know that nofh- ng like justice was done to Cape Breton up to the day when we had four representativeH and even when that number wis doubled it could not be said that we were reSn- » fair consideration for the money that \ve werp paying i^nto the. treasury year after yefr Ihat IS the position the hon. member puts hraself in when he talks about Cape Breton All throushout, the arguments of the Oppo- M .on remind one oi the anecdote of the white man and the Indian who went on a shooting expedition with the understanding came tS Jv7 ''°»'\™eet and divide the white man proposed to make the division. t •^"^ro 18 too much crow «.nr> «„. Sf.^'JRV.'ick, in the hon. member^ ft Sits on the throne of Rrj».i„ °"*"eign wlio Ins to thre'wh^"^h?rhe;rr.''?oVJ?T'; FbaKi'hei'* ^T^^' <>-"«<'?- prehendVouVsToVy\"erefr";jS'L'l^ "'t- our petition, her heart will riLnn^®?"" *° deairp »»«! tiTo* u •!; " .'^'Pond to our J.. depmea from .«r °lh .g 1 "e ?",» laskwfll Br^H?^ .w°°^ *•»« consequences. Bmmmm tuenti to ffet one «^V^'"*' ^^ "^ com"' OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 105 rounded by thirty-six men, I can make all allowance for his fury. And thus looking at the hon. gentleman's position, I must admire his courage. I know he has a hard ro&d to travel, and therefore I would say to him in all good feeling and brotherly love, have charity in all things, and do not work bo hard against the current of public opinion. Now, Mr. Speaker, it is not to be conceived that a people who have enjoyed the light and happiness of freedom, can be restrained and shut up in the gloom of tyranny and degra- dation—all progress requires eflfort. The human mind 'lever rests contented under diffionlties, nut yields to tho pressure of ty- ranny without a struggle. It naturally re- sists oppression and force in all their forms. When it is deprived of what truly belongs to it (as a matter of course) it calls in all its forces, and prepares to regaia its own. Such a question is now before us and before the people of this country, and which involves the same principle. The people of Nova Scotia are deprived o'' what truly belongs to them, and they expect tho men whom they .have elected to carry out their wishes in seeking for a repeal of the forced and obnox- ious British North America Act, and to use all lawful and constitutional means to re- store again the right of self-government and the free enjoyment of British liberty, which was obtained for Nova Scotia by the energy and ability of the Hon. Joseph Howe and others, ano^ granted by the Queen and Par- liament of Great Britain. But we have been handed over to a set of men who are far away, and who care nothing for ua or for the preservation of those interests which are as dear to Nova Scotians as the blood that circulates through their veins. Now, Mr. Speaker, this is no party question, it far tran- scends all party considerations, and strikes as deeply and fatally at the rights alike of Conservative and Liberal. The people of this country, of all parties, have nobly entered their solemn protest against tho outrageone action of the men who sold their country, and which deprives Nuva Scctia of self- government in the control of their own re- venues, in defiance of every principle of free I I lOG $ Act is not S'.?^^;^faI'«:'S'^''^"^''"" ment.^}.'*!'"?,' *" ^^^ Dominion Parlf*. m»y d ffiS nr L^ y Province. CaiisdiMs ■fiL: ""^ qaarrel tmong themeelves • but Government with «o large a ^Sjo^ruJ .gaPnat •• vo? h'.'Ii'S' ''?'?^*'^ '^» Union men eay you have puniBhed the men that betravpr rn„..HL *i'"*'' different; it is not so much tX,T «'P«°«hment. ai it is the reoov- No^v* Wi"^''^' "'^ "^'"''^^ of thepeonleof dealh w«?n a^°^'i'■• V' '«'! known that aeath was m the pot for the last four veara and nnsorupulous schemers broke in unon ?" JSht.. and took possession of al\eM° rf ^ WUWr,« \^f' '"e in any free TouS- ception, the Government of Enclmri ».. we*re'wmiSL''\*'r i*-? ^''"p"^ of «o "^0'" rfn.Jl 4^1 "'^ desirous of a union with fh™*-i ^'^ 0?'. appeals were of no avaj- the people's petitions were unheeJed: all on account of m srepresentation from a few ams ihl^K *°1 interested agitators Now. s£ What have been the result of thn stItorAAf.* made to the British Government' fha ' Nava Sootia was m favor of a union with CanX? Why. sir on the 18th September last the voice of the people coming up from the eieht Z'STZ 'ITX S^'H^cond'eiined'fnd ih^! u '»" the forsaken remnant of those, who up to the very last hour of the?r power,- ceased not in treating the people with worn and contempt. No wonder then That i^'n^nf *'^**»^V°°"*''y !"»« spoken out with tecieration that has been forced upon them Ihe people of Nova Scotia have done too muoi not to do more; they have gone Too far ji^« »° which they must either silently ab- ^'"•te the rigflts of their country, or try cSn- Btitntionally to restore thpm r.«„r rnay talk^t^Lsibli fo Nov?sS)-tian'i\1rso long as they exercise a power to bind this Sn.7.'r/-^"^ ^"l the chains of the one go ^& """ 1?* ''>"'y "f the other. I love the old constitianon; I have confidence in the in tegrity and capacity of the people of Ca Scotia govern themselves as in days Jone by. I love the good old fl*g of En^lanrl T was born under it, and I hop*e to die SJ it! fule-Ilo,.°f«^.S""*i'"'« "°'^«'' Canadiin ruie.iiove freedom too well for that Onr ^fm^V/.""'/*. impediment and may fo? a imph.for^"*'^'^' ''"' ^^"^**«'y ">»•' tri- DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS ''Freedom's battle once begun. «• -iMeatueu from b;eeaiu« sire tn nnn Though baffltd oft, iB ever won - l».uJf^ «o ereviouBly wrong as this un! tr^iSph"*? ''IVT'^^"'""' w'th Canada can knowthp, Sk!!'"' ''''P^PPieofNo^Sootla pe jjopt in leading str ngs by Canadian* it stents I h^;Jte"^' ^'^°^ «haUbaV. oj cents a head of your own money L.ok •' ?/>';! I suppose, is one of the glorious bene fitMhat we were promised und^er "confede?a thS^''-.^ ^*'*,*° P»y one-third more tariff .-J "".""iiy. Ana, sir, that union of liMr* and spirit which is absolutely necesMrv^L our people will never be bri^gh? abon^ h. forcing on them hieh tariff* an^ ^1 \,.^ Booiations when they see fit. Men mav h«o grown wiser,-they may havn fnr^fJ "° ° °S rn«f PubKoficJ' n' verlhS an^wl^' wknowledged that when rsudden luoT^f *PP**,? '"^ be a great ob an -e. takes fess s'ii ?hi??*"y Pr'^,"^^^ * ebookf I con. less, sir, thati was shocked at somf^ latter d«v conversions - conversions that seemed to q^nl^'"' '''"°" '° ^be twinkling of an ey? Such movements of the afl'ections wheth^; C°° "m P°'"'°»'' *« * little outTfJS! Ssing'Iic'SoThVt^i!! "S^"^ ^''r?'' "d mflicious°*and a'u"d!;U'f ilinr'at;! fn'U'rT toT' "" -ylit^re" o' VS. Histofy s2v •'^h°.^*?^ *' *1" P'**'"* «leep, in the salvation, who. JntriBuers and I country. No, f the people i» 1 such matters, be result of the outh. Look at ^•nadians have we get in re- ou shall have money l/«cJr.'' glorious bene* ler Confedera- rd more tariff ceive nothing d charity, or leet the local bave to pay us Confederal the people of nion of heart necessary for ;ht about by id other dis- Nova Scotia Canada, and it had not rested politi- e, and forced Bt known to said of late ir opinions; »inly be al »nd their ae- n may have 'ormed more Nevertheleea ^n a sudden, lange, takes »ok. I con- in latter day seemed to ; of an eye. IB, whether out of na- al enemies, I vindictive ing in fove to make a mind. i it was no leme of po'" t if Ireland ber repre- •ught and 9 to dread Bsent day. ip of Ire- by British 1 her false men who traitors to « the case t and sold 8 punish- OP THE HOUSE OP ABSEMBLT. 107 mcnt while he lived; and though he haa been dead many yearp. his evil reputation lives after hia. Our oonititution has been seized upon, »nd bartered away to Canada without the consent of the lawful owners. And, sir, it is the duty of the people, the rl2htful owners, to use all legal and consti- tutional means to rsgain what has been forced from them. I desire to see Nova Scotia free from the control cf Canada, and unfettered as the winds of heaven. If I stood alone on this question. I should feel it the peatest pride of my life, to vote for a repeal of this forced Union, and restore to the people their free constitational right!. The people of this country want nothing but fair play, and the Government that tries to force anything else upon them, will only be sowing the wind to reap the whirlwind. Sir, this Confederation with Canada was conceived va sin Rnd brought forth in iniquity. Wherever the civil rights of a country is not associated with the Government, and the jieople under- stand that the Government may be one thing, their freedom and privileges another, the at- traction to hold them together is lost. U is well known that the telf^ppointed delegates misrepresented the sentiments of the people of Nova SootU; it was asserted that after a calm and mature consideration, they had pro- nounced their judgment in favor of a Union with Canada; of thiu assertion not one sylla- hle has any existence in fact, or the Bhaoow of fact. Sir, to affirm that the people of No- va Scotia was in favor of what they were against; to make the falsification of her sen- timents the foundation of her ruin, and the ground of this distasteful Union, can best be answered by sensations of astonishment and diseust. ., The time is come to lock out upon the whole sweep of the horizon which encircles Nova Scotia, with a firm purpose to do our duty to the people of every part of it. 1 nave opposed Confederation with Canada through- out. I stand acquitted to my conscience and to theoountrv; and I now protest against it as tyrannous, oppressive, and unjust to the people of Nova Sootia. Although Nova Sco- tia is young yet we have a right to be proud ofher;wehave enjoyed the blessings of re- SDonsible government, the best and freest in the world, because self-government gives a power which no other form i8 capable. It incorporates every man with the country, and stimulates a spirit of liberty and strength. . Is it then to be conceived that a people, who have enjoyed for many years the light and happiness of freedom, can be re- strained and shut up in the gloom of slavery to Canadian rule? No, sir, you might as well try to stop with sand the running of a rapid river; the only consequence of such an attempt would be a temporary suspension. The forcing stream would find its way thTOUgb new channels, and would spread destruction and ruin on every side; therefore the progress and liberty of a people are like the progrew of the stream. Kept within its proper chan- nel it is sure to make fruitful the country ihanriMk •ahich It ?""■ I rohuiTin power can stop elfeetuany its passage; and short sight- ed as well M foolhardy must be the mail or men who would engage in «uoh an under* ♦aking. The Government of this cojintry for some time back have not been represented by the true feeling of the people, because it haa been too much influenced by passion, preju- dice, or party Interests, which may often give to the Executive apparent strength; but no Government can he either laiting or free which does not ereate cotfidi^nce and energy amongst the people. The people elect their representatives to act under the constitution, to alter it,— they are appointed to exercise the function of legislators, and not to transfer them without the consent of the rightful owners. To have power is one thing, and to do right is another; so if the late Government bad power to pass an act to change the con- stitution without the consent of the people, surely this Government have giffater power (having the voice and true feeliflg of the people) to pass resolutions asking for ft repeal of this forced Union. If this country is to be rescued from the perils whictk she is under, it must be done by an outspoken, manly, truthful, and I old declaration of ^e sentiments of the people of Nova Scotia. W e ask no more than to be left m the enjoyment of the rights which God has given us; and if these rights are not restored again it will be hard to keep down the elemenvs whicn exist in the breasts of an injured people. It has been said by many of the friends ol this forced Union with Canada that but for a few party politicians the scheme would have met with no opposition. This, sir, is no new strain. It has been sung a thousand times before. Ik has always been the tune of a weak Administration. Did ever you hear a minister acknowledge that the evils which fell on his country were the necessary oonse- auenoe of his own incapacity or his own folly ? What man (wherever he may have been) that has been in the possession of poli- tical power ever yet failed to charge the blunders and mischiefs resulting from his own measures upon those who had uniformly opposed those measures ? Look back at the ^ministration of Lord North. He lost a laijte portion of America to his country, yet he could find pretences for throwing the odium upon his opponents. He could throw it upon those who had forewarned him at every stage cf bis disastrous policy. O, no ! it was owing to no fault of his administra. tration; it was the boldness of Chatham, Fox, Burke, and others. These men, and men like them, would not join him in his American war. They would not join what they considered to be extreme folly. They declared him to be wanton. They pointed out plainly, both to him and the country, what the end would be; but he declared their opposition to be selfish and factious. He pursued his course, and the result is in his- tory It is an old and constitutional right of the people to canvas public measures and the merits of public men, and to demand from them an account of the trust reposed in them; and a people who would be afraid to call their rfpresentatives to an account for their actions in Parliament would deserve to be blotted out of all the "oords of freedom. They »uOUii not dishOaOr tav CSuSS Oi S?---- government by attempting any longer to ex« eroiie it. They should feel ashamed, and 109 DEBATES AND PROCEEDU^GS :■¥■ ihtVn^' f'^^'^'^^^K^*'"^' entirely oflF from tHe Man of rMpoasib e liberty, if th«v are af2^T.'„?lv- ^P"k". we meet here to look i^flk 'm "/, P"* «' •»" l>o>J8 together" rnrh«r''^^°°i ^''"''^*' *•"• She has been di». .hI^!l-M*'«'^''?*' '••°'° her .ncborage. yet ■he 18 still afloat, and is now freighted wit" R^JTu "^'^ "''""«" °' •'»«' people of Nova Se wln'^^i-.r* "'''^*f °*»^"' •"dolose by inl^ w.T'^'* • «ood itrong breeze; and ih.n,«.i*''*i'''*' ^"* o»Pt»in »nd crew that hae already acquired an energy of ad- Tancement that wiir.upport her course clear hLll u ! '?"'". °' opposition, and brine i^,?'*'^^*' ''*j'°'d anchorage under thf l.^« fi*^ ^?*,**'** ^" ''^•^ed fo; a thousand yeart the battle and the breeze. ^.iA^ *".* '" .'**'e heard 3 great amount 6»id about constitutional law! That is all ♦'ifl^ -* f°''l''«'»^ minds to contend about j in/fo^'" ''U .*° .""''« ""e bl.ck side white far at ^u' "'L' '?«" '« » l»'that stanas f!i/.^i ?i' 'Hol' law, a law of justice and Jk-.JP ^y,' "'* '■ enshrined in the hearts of tinT.i'**'?^®' P'"***^ ^I'ere by the Qed of na- .LVn^^'lr"'" collection of abstract es- Th^f ?" public questions of right or wrong, rh 8 Id a law which is never silent; it speaks air we breathe; it spreads itself by a sort of fnaje«tio influence over Und and so*. Takinc flcruJ'f-'" " *^""^ °^ "K^t' which even in «^r:^» 5^*®.7«8 powerful enough to vindi- cate Itself, it has gathered nev7 strength with tbe advance of civilization, and it is attended in tills age by sanctions which no people may auregard. Sir, we may glance back at the American contest with Great Britain. The war ot the Revolution was undertaken in de- fence of a great principle; the spirit of lib Mi?/®7°'l^^ ^S*'""* taxation, which was too light to be /elt ae a burden, but was toa great a violation ofprinoiple to be borne by men who were jealous of tUe encroachments tfinJlT- , ^i* y ^°°ff^ oppression in the tiinted gale, they struck for freedom, and in the mighty struggle which ensued they had imlpJ^t'^^^V of mankind, and the cou test undertaken for liberty ended in independence, ilut sir, I believe that when our case is properly understood on the other side of the wk"'t l**^' .England will do us juitice. wnen 1 take into consideration the feeling of the .people of this ooi^ntry, I feel my share of the great responsibility of this House. The country » in » crisis. I feel it to be a crisis; and I am ready to say God speed to the man 1% ^^\ '"^ *'"*" o*"y »« aonorably and Mfely through it. Now, Mr. Speaker, in conclusion I desire to say a word in regard to the question of disloyalty that has been ^)f '^ »T*S"°*t "■ '"S*' m»Jority cf the peo- ple of Nova Scotia, We who stand up and Tindioate the rights of the people, have been called rebels, traitors, and annexationists, "ow, sir, I would ask, was O'Connell a rebel ror a«king that his countrymen should have egual_ rights whh other British subipnt.? JT.8 Bit iiobijrt f eei and the Duke of" Wel- lington rebels when agitating foi- a rcn^ii ,.f the Cor- Laws? Were all the gre^t pol Hi. o.an8 of England rebels, who trom tfme t. br,,!!1"*'*A* "P"' "^ '^' lawswhiciThe;' believed unfair to their countrymen 7 No sir; a thousand times no. I am fully cod° vinoed that every . .^ument urged a^galns anv ofT^*^'""'"^ TJ" ^l"*! justice aS any of the ouanges J. have enumerated O SH, Tv^ of our opponents say, tha? he peo! pie of Nova Sooiia are ignorunt and «««)!♦ capable of judging for t1,em""lVs-that they do not know what freedom is. anu that thev have no right to name freedom til , hey „re fit use their freedom. Why. sir such a 2«f "°« '•" n '"'« ^l^e 'nan wh , ;o,o ved ewim. If men are to wait for liberty till thev Sir, the cry of loyalty will not lone con. alty IS a noble thing, a judicious princinle- but loyalty not associated with liberty is Sv' a corrupt principle. Sir, you may boast (?f a fore this House, and say, we want our liber tics-we receiveJ them fi'om God. and we wfl not resign them to Canada; and we «k f^r a rlTlf °' ^^" ''""^^^ "d forced Union Therefore, you men of Nova Scotia, cherish liberty as you love it; cherish its securities Is you wish to preserve it; and be true to God to your country, and to your duty * sinew' Srh"'""!*?; ^°"' °^ 'heir bone and Ssq^;;;^;SS^rsoi[XSoS SerytS*n\ttiaSc";^ found wanting. We have paid you off for whom we have confidence. I have spoken out freely what I have felt whf/h tH '^ '^ "y 5 '« """' look the dangei which threaten us in the face. The Deonif n? livhX" '^ ^'''}- *° **>« »ot'on of thU House with the deepest interest, and I trust that thA Mtion of this House will'fuliy meet the^r eJ I'nltT/- ,^°^'- "i^' '''°»« ^h"«'e now con! wto¥ '°/ *h« "ghts of the people, may be barked at and denounced for a time* ths surges of opposition may dash against Js- but when the storm is /one hv ^^.Inl A truth will triumph. l'hfp"e \UrlhT tha? SootT irshSfranf' '"'■'''' ""kTo'f'No'vI f^^*u' ? ?■ *°' unanimous y in voting? for the resolutions now before the House MB. CHAMBERS' SPEECH, (concluded). unKrcSdett-"rm'a?k/rZ ' '^" .eif.t;i^tFto^h;siS«a^^^^ »tiDg for A repeal of •n the grett politi* I who troin time to 'the laws which thpy r countrymen? No 10. I am fully coD- ment urged against on to take, might equal justioeagaintt ▼e enumerated. 0, tseay, that the peo- lorant, and are not emadves— that they a IB. anj that they reedom nil they are ■ Why, sir, such a man wha resolved II he had learned to for liberty till they they may, indeed, OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. evening I wag B on this ques" i« opportunity > uunnne my- 'ote the Houie. My desire iatn ihew my oontlituenti that the Tote which I intend to give will be intel- ligently and oonRoientiousIy given. When I oea.ed ipeaking I wai makinsr reference to the stamp act— an act grievously borne in the Province. It was each an act that caused the toloniea, which now form the Unite.! State*, to revolt, although their loyalty was as true as that of any people within the Do- minions. We never thought such an imoosi- tion, would be put upon us. From all I cm learn, this stamp act is likely to be most in convenient in its operation. A man livinic nine miles from a Post office, before he can draw » bill or give a valid receipt mutt eo that distance for a stamp; the re«uU will, in miny cases, be that the business cannot be 1. J F.' J.'"*"" *'«'^«8 «o draw a bill for a hundred dollars, f.nd one cent over, the stamp •V.I.T','!"" *'^ °^"^"' ""^ **>*' raust be lost If the holder wishes to proceed for its col- lection. The easiest way, in such a case, would be to forgive part of the debt. Was such inconvenience submitted to in any other country. Now as to the newspaper tax like the Eastern Chronicle, of which paper 1 tbmlt a good deal, because it did us a vait amount of good in the late contest, for ex- ample. It is published twice a week: the postage will be forty cents, and the duty, at hfteen per cent., on the paper will make twenty cent! more, being three shillings ad- dition*! which each aubscriber will have tc p»y. Thio monstrous tax will bring the sub- cription up to thirteen shillings a year The proprietors tell mo that they expect a serious reduction in their subscription list as the re» *u-.i'- ^^^ ^^^y ^^'^ "*'»«'• *«^e only seven shillings a year for their paper, or they must charge thirteen shillings to their subscribers it was said in the election contest that the Unadians would bring down their capital in abundance, and this statement turned a num- ber of votPB, because the young men thought ♦hey could easily obtain the means of goine into bu8ine«F; but what was the result' Have wo seen these prophecies fulfilled ? It is true a new Bank has been eetablighed, but money instead of being at six per cent as before, can hardly be had at seven per cent. If the addi- tional charge of one per cent benefitted our oanks it would not be of so much consequence but It 18 paid over to the Canadian treasury! we have been accused by the hon, member lor Inverness of bringing forward weak ar- guments, but I might show the House at length how weak were the arguments of his superior, Mr. Archibald. In the Colchester contest we held fourteen meetings, and in- K o/Ja'kiDg about Confederation ha spoke aoout the mines and minerals, and said you must support me because I helped t^ fow i^u* l^e"''*"!" But in the western part ot the county at one of the meetings the people refused to hear Mr. Archibald at first on the ground that he had refused to hear taeir petitions; but my colleague told them inat If they wished to hear any one on the ri^^fu"^^ *^^y ™"B' hear Mr. Archibald, ana then they agreed to hear him provided he would stick to the question of Confedera- lion. Ha *\w.^m;aj.^ i-» J. -. J * •» ■ TV" i'-""""'^ •■■■J ui-' su, sail uummcnccS M Considerable length about the Acadia Iron Mines, and the steam works which were be- 109 ing erected there, slating that hereafter the o«rap»ny would have four millioDs of con f ml? , ^'"' ^^ * Pf^'ty forcible ar- gument, and some one said. '• how are vnu uo^ng to answer that?" '' F.mune fav^or" the brave," and it so happened that one of us had a copy of the Canadian tariff an what was our answer T That under that tariff the products of the company's works weL in duty free, and under C.^federa'^on it could he hon. gentleman, and iwtead of attending iXo^rsK''"'•=••>'^'^-'•*••p"^ eelf. A learned Doctor olfered to show un some of. the benefits of Confeder.tionTf ^e .ubitsn^cJo^K"? *° •'°"' """i ♦'"' '"'^ "d ™il, K°? "^^ ^" ^'Sument was that we could W«,ii!?^^'' *I o»»"Plyhere as in Canada We (itnnot send manufactured goods to Can: ry*^; srT*! '^''^ ^'*" power and machine- 2t "o r'-ffir; rqSa"iV&^r.:Vr? rit^stni-aiintu^/n"''^^^^^^^ from E ,.„,^ ,111 f n ge?thr JrVc*hf.T tSera^LTseSg^ ^.fc^^w? h?.^* I compete with our foundries. One of the ar- guments throughout the eieotion, we know hL?/K\* manufactures would be ertablishS dowA ±"r "." ^'"^}^' Canadian, sendin? down merchandise of al kinds. Will ihef 11 aIlTr^"V*?i' "\ol»«"«in 'retuyn? N?t at all, for, while we heard a great deal about orders for cheese, the Montreal papere were ?or*'h^i!'"*-?»-'*^« ^«"J<^ be a good maS for butter, if it were good. They wHl not take our pork, for in Halifax wt see m man-- porkers from Canada staring usin thXe as would make a dinner lor every Confeder, te ?n ^S^i'?''*'"^-. ^"^"' f«' l^'^her, it is true came down at one time, but they were not re- Ch^^'-^^'J* '" ^^""'l «»>•» leather was no higher in Montreal than in Halifax, and the lite '? '"/""■"• ^"^ 'J^^ article, are not ^^uV?^"" °^"y considerable amount. They Thatrli/"*"^,*^*^''" ^^^^ our gold. T o^ Inn K*^" "" ^^. * '"C'e^y of attorneys in London who ageeed that they would take nothing but gold from their clients in a tZl '""k' }' ^t" '""n*^ t»»»t one o'f their hr.^,^1f* i"*"^ **''^'» "1^«^ "d. on being its fonn/i u''^ ™*° « ^"^'l «■•»'• Another ^o »i,^"n * ^"i? **'^«° •" the gold and silver So hese Canadians, after taking all our gold .Tn,u''' ''"'■ ■"'" "d copper also Why J&i^lPK^'^r ^•^'^ * Canadian ar"ole that we can buy cheaper in England 7 What we want is to be allowed to |et our goode where we choose. I now will show you\hat subject. The Christian Messenger is a good authority on most subjects, but it appear^s °o have gone wrong, somehow or nthor !f„" i!° BUDject of Confederation. What does" this no •bjMt of the lm„„ . 'P'P"««'l on •!• «( fhi.^'*** •■"! be mtdtto^i ."''>'■' U(rh()utth«n V' "^e do not """'■'» *«■> raocmmo. rlAn O ».t- /["kee ooked it ♦».- * ^" J'ou think or this conntry we «- " "'ef the ftoe "«ow „;;cl^onb,a dete.Uble yokeThS? r:",^e'^oro-t Se^-fi«; What w.ii Up- q" "Oon asked before MwJ*»"">eare la"" ''J«t"er you do. cannot ge: a chano-e? tr ^"^ "uppose we »'»at question. I Vv th.^?..*""''^ "ot answer Sootu are lov.i J,^ '''** "»e peonle of w Withoc. ,',*/!!•*" victory l^'i^^'^-'t hare Jir«c<. :.;'j;";„ .^V^^b to%,^'^'^l form oM5 > ■ *'°* •sk foi ^ Wol u.* *^ ««d in thar,Sy v!l'"'e**"<'wyoatoDP« ■Ancrooon Scaaio Theflo„en,et.t3 o'clock. "' ' Mr "ttCBlilNBOUS. -r ..d wU,;?,"'. p«.»i >««.. .bite •'fi'^ee; also, oue fromlf- m*^.*^ ^uUd » fr(^mBedforVs^ilfo«„f,rh:'r",f * ''^'^'^^ air. PuB»i ,bj..j ,k„>i ^ ""8 ranee, the tible » return «hn ^"^e^ment to ay on "'»rie« made byotdTi^„^r '^« "°««iJ of advances for the road .r,^° ^^^U""''. »nd the "orvicesfrom UA Jnlt V^L^'^^" *''^ other ■loe adjourned deb«t« ». Mr Fb, '*««"an'8 speech. f '%gthy ^' ^4«'J,Vd-;I do not intend to make 'he Bouse , uet.s«r ?„°l°"Py *he time of ft«^ remarks nn° V o''^,-^"* I »*" off-r . deeply disturbed nil ^"^"""n which hai ,! Province. Were I ,n ""^ P""'^'"! «nd hanr v IIS> I would keVmy se^'"'' J^^ °inS ^«'n to deliver their OP THH HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 3 o'clock. "•il. nuobsr of ,ri"° i^*"'."'"" from .money to buiJd , '- Blackwood and relief of dietrewed w*8 receiTed Ind *m^^- . ^"' i f*«» that I hftTe » import- m( duty to di«ph»rge. and ohall I not raiie ny voice, feeble though it may be, in oon- p.emD»tion of the Britieh North America Act. which baa impoied lo many bardent on m »cddcpr,Tedu8of jurlibertiea. I ahall be tray the trust repoicd in me by my oonititu- wti. I have taken notea of topios irhioh ,iugKC«ted remarlti, but the gentlemen who Iprecedcd me have occupied nearly the whole pound. I may eay at the outlet thut I h. Mtily endorse the resoluticns laid on the table by the Attorney General touohine this queation, asking a repeal of the Union, and reprtienting our case so fully as they do. I feel pieaaed al»o at the unanimity of feellnir which gentlemen around thaae benches have expres«eJ on this aubject, af also at the man- ner in which the Government have tikeu hold of it, and I am happy to wy that the ."M^^lVf .'k''«""^ " *'•"' P'«"ed with the action of the Government thus far. We have had a fair trial of this act for five monthS and upwards, nnd the results are orettv w*II known to the people of this country. In that nf""!? I'l'^V"?"" 'n^flMnoial point ihiiwhoK'"^'^'" >natance, the calculation which the hon. member for Inverneis gave "3I9000 Thft"}'''hr """'^^ appropriate 1 -7 • '■.• ^ 'Jel'eve, cons sts of the also that the local revenue would probably amount to S142,000, and these two amounts e.veP6M0O. That will be about Tth| revenue that we shall have to dispose of It be e ghi and a half millions, leaving us $28,- 000 to provide for interest. The Provincial Secretary told us that the School grant would probably be $234,000; the road and bridge lervice in 186G was ^244,000. and the" e items » one give u. «493,000. 'and mikes a deT oiency of ^7.000. Then we nave Til the other local services to provide for, as foU Qovernment department?, Crown Land departm.-fiiV-i^°' '^P''" ^'»' ior I fed that no one ha J^nn. tK"*^ *«^."'»8' '*• should actuate eve,^Xf£,!tfP'''' •'^'°h to I'xnreis hi. o^Ij ■^'ova Hcotian, can fa'l whiohffprJh bS t?e°."''°? °^ '^' P"l cy try from eLcS tii^^S "^ *»»" "oun- import»nt question aSinwS''-'^ ^" *° »" ^\t4]Iy as tgis does I feelfhlf'^ '""^'''V "^ *ll that the resolutions nfr,*!- I °" endorse able to the occasion /nH*'"' tneyaresuit- of the people iSLml"r«« .*•>« deling, imously adopted aL^K *''*^ '1'' "^^ unaE. home with the request cTfe°^''^^'«*?»t«« go country be r-lieved of ?L i' ^e»«e. that the on us. I have an aby !n^%^-!?i^*^*'' '"Po^d «nd the men .dmin*Sr?f/*.K'* "^^e Queen, mother count;rthawhi *^1 ''ffairsof the cede to our petftion '^ """ ''«•'' ""d ««- DEB/TES AND PROCEEDINGS ME. COCHHAN'S SPEECH. Hon. Mr. Cochhav m.;,i . t u ly ilfitened to thTdebatc f/;;;. H*''' ««'entivc- ^"^ent. and mu.t congratuSe £ h'"'"'°°° the country on the abili v i?.. * S°!^'^ and short in what I intend nni?/ "hall be very gentleman havinff had an ./^f •'^- Jhe hon^ to run. was ha dfy in » ° So"^ of his own aetua state of thhis in tft/° ^"J? V*'"' himself a hard battle fnficl.* ^J^' ^'' had by the merest chance ?hifK' ""* '* *^»«nJy all. Wben the q" fioJ nV n -""^^ ^«''« at before the peoDh^of-^h?. .^^ ^."""^^ °»'ne first view of i? Vhfch I fc?"""'^' ' ^ooJf that When Dr. Tupner c^m^. ?'' «'°°e held, this county, tKn^'S?"' » candidate fo; that the time had oomelo Z^''^ '''''^Sht I was waited upon b? several ^!„*»r'^^"' ""'^ jng mo to come out I S f °' f «° aek- them for a while but whiw "Mention to nervices might be us'efu to tiV "^ '*"" «=y sen'ecl. At that tS I ta *l\P"^y. I con- for Europe in the r?.nar i . **^^° * Passage termincd toSnotwiKn^ '*'^?'' ^'"^ ^ "t ing election.^ la Sn/ro.fnf.^ '^^*PP'"««h- fe3lin,.H of the peg e^of T«?ifax^ if^'V^' those outede of the ni*v ? i"^',*? W"?'! «8 half of us mightbe awav a„'d ,h '^. ^^^*' °"^- ^ec^vy^ssa^-tovotevij: Sn'?anX'i:t^s"''':i°^K '°'« ^^ *"« City Council aTdwlii^ 5.^^ ^''^S m the he had been instrument! n Tl ''r"*'"^' *»»** Mayors. Such wab h!! ♦ fcltofiDs: ?overal theelections"camroff'lt%rn'o'k"^".*^'"> in Baying that if an pUmj^^ "". hesitation city to-morrow we\SS°e°r7',''^-^'^ '° "»« ntyover any Union \v.„/S .* l^rgo m«jo be brought forward The S'wh'^*^ ^"«''' 'ectly Wild ,n favor of FTn nn f-^^° "''' »<"•- ferently now It t,.. L °° ^'^*' 'fry dif- «08t rVcrable'me Chan?? oJ'hV^''^'^^ Umonists. Now eo un w!f ^*^'^** *•"£■ Moren'B to West's aid "'" .?""***' ^'om merchants against CoSe'aio?' ^"' ^'>?'' favor of it. ^""'euera^ion to one in fed^rU'^fSenlll^'//' «°^f 't-e Con- gument in fav^r irJ? ""^a'Dlv not an ar- Stamp Ac?, under whi?h°'*"'- ^'''^'^ ^^ the to affix a lone list ^f « '^ ^'^'^ ™*° '« obliged note of hanT This 4 ^^f 1" ""^ '''""d ornament to the neoDlI if ♦u-* P""^ co'tly look at the tariff fi?/*'^**"'"'ountry. Jugt our old one *lu~ifI„^hP" V' ^'S^^ than corn he must pa' 40 ceSor^"/ ''"•^'' «" the other hand winpi.ii^^*- on it. (jn ■ the same asSar^pVn orn°%lV^'' i'''''~ can drink hio wine «t « u ^^® ""'> n»an poor man must nav LVT '?*«• t*"* the have been forty /ewsTfhfr **" ^""'J- I never paid a cent on corn SnV"""*'"^' "-^ ^ rye flour before Onr n^«?°'^ oornmeal and * 20 per cent duty fn the Ampri^''^'*^ '° ^"^ »nd yet the CanadianB «ii^ ®fl'""' market, coal to comein"tSS^ ^'/'"''''°»» shows us Plain! V hnt ^ '^^ "^"^^ ^""ee- That treated byThe mioritr;^.? expect to be Parliament, l W« « ° I''*' Confederate HaoDonald would li.^°, "^""^^ ^'^ John A American ooaTbuf hW^ >n>po«eaduty on per Canad^w il not '^'"PPorters from Up - have no doubt we «h»nK ^'"^ *° ^^ so. I tarilfimposed upon Js ir^''" * ^" P«' o«nt. of time haselap,*^^ \hlntL^''^'u^'^Sth conciliate the Marit mA Pr! • ^^^ .^'«'»«d to cd th« tariu to 15 p ^'c'e^r bufl' *^^ '*'^«'- under the expensive «v«f«n, 7® ^''*''' *l»at established in the nLln- '^"l,.'!^ government Buifioe to meet rh»^^'°i'^° ^^'^ ra'e will not pose buy^g the m.T'^S'"^''- ^hey p?o- Md buildinf the &"? ".^"y Territory. where i-aU ?h t4ey To "ol^'^""''*''' '"* from a tariff of 15 ue? nlnf ""I ^■'^T ^ Not we know that Canada could nn?^*'" ^i '^^en dinary oblie-«tinn» f '" not meet her or* cent tarS'^i" S Z IT' '?°^«'' * =^0 p'r that we shall no7be iep?'m"^il"rr?'°'"^'""- onger, but that Nova ScoHa »iiPK'°° '""^'^ ted to regain her oM .* ".'' "'o Permit- vileges, under which 8heT^""-'°°/"'' P"- prosperity and happiness Yr^"*^.'" °'"°*> over Europe and Amerfca hL^^\^"''"^^'^^ I seen a happier and nJnr^. nowhere have .nity than Ks?olr7jeK'f /''"'""" >n my youth, and perhans r l^® "''^ *i°"°'''y most loyal of m^n fJJt" If** "ot then the loame to NovaVcStla^rdVartJ'e'^re'S OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. officer to vote for the r. Lonjriey u^'cj his ^e Railway l)iar ffioials were ihroaten- lond of boastino that 81 in fcltcfins: ?averal ' sure of things When i have no hesitation tion wore held in the Id get a large ffl«j„- ^ndidates th»t nuAt ie men who ran per- [nion feel very dif- been stated (hafthe ^n^s of Halifax are Water street, from [ you will find four lera.ion to one in rst acts of tne Con- ertainly not an ar- on. Neither is the '^ery man is obliged P8 to every bill and pe a pretty costly this country. Jugt ■ cent, higher than '8 four bushels of or 28. on it. (Jn ced to ten cents— The rich man '" rate, but the for his food. I IS country, and I nd cornmeal and is obliged to pay merican market, n^ the American 9 liuty free. That '»y expect to be the Confederate abt Sir John A apose a duty on >rters from Up- im to do 80. I e a 30 per cent, ly great length fhey wished to IOCS they lower- t we know that « government 18 rate will not 8. They pro- ;ay Territory, ' Railway, but le from ? Not rtainly, 'when :nieet her or^ Oder a ao i)cr a fionoluaion. ; Union much 111 bo permit" ion and pri- 3yed so much ive travelled owhere have ted commu« I old country not then the good many y with the y. but when he state of 113 things here, I was satisfied and have lived in the Province ever since. I found that the man who would not be loyal to vhis country must be a fool or an idiot. I believe at the time of the Fenian excitement, had this coun« try been invaded, my oountrymemen would have been true to their allegiance; I never heard a man speaking in support of the Fe- nians or eajing there should be Fenians among us. I am sorry to be obliged to con- feos, if maltsrs progress as they have been doing, if we do not get out of this Union, much of this good feeling will be swamped. I believe that peace and order are gone from Nova Scotia forever if this Union is perpe- tuated. I believe that many persona were once in favor of Union, but when they came to see the iniquity of the present scheme, they changed their opinions very soon. No- thing shewed more clearly the feelings of the people of Nova Scotia than the departure of Dr. Tupper and Mr. Archibald from this city a few days ago on their way to Canada. These men were a credit to any country— their ability entitles them to respect, but when they left not a farewell cheer rose from the crowd aisembled on the wharf; one would actually have thought it was a funeral. But when Mr. Howe left he left amid the hearty cheers of the large crowd that saw him depart on his patriotic mission. Such is the ^feeling of the people of Nova Scotia generally. The men who sit on these benches indicate very clearly the sentiment of the country. I do not find fault with the people of Canada. I believe they found themselves in a position of difficulty, and could see no other means or extricating themsjlves except by aunexmg the Maritim? Provinces. As respects the men who betrayed their country in this House, we cannot but censure them most loudly. One of the gentlemen who now sits in the other end of the building met a friend one day on the street, when the question of Confederation was under ooasideration, and said, •* We are sold." That bon. geutieman, however, was found voting in fav-or of Union, and now he has been rewarded. So far as the resolutions are concerned, I agree with every lino of them, and hope when the peo- ple of England look at the real position of matters they will meet out to us that justice to which wo are entitled at their hands. HON. rnov. SEOEKTARY'S SPEECH, Hon. Pbov. Sec'y. said:— In rising to ad« dress the IIoueo at this time I feel much em« barrassed, from the fact that in the opening of this debate three or four legal gentlemen addressed the House, taking up the' constitu- tional argument, auts following after them came a number of aMo merchants who took u p tho financial part of the question, and thus the matter has been so fully discussed, and so completely exhausted, that a lengthy speech would bo merely adding to what has already been said, in a discussion which.in my opinion, should not detain the House long af- t«r to'day. It is important that the debate EiiOu;a CO brought to a CIdho as early as pogn sible, and at tho same time it ia important that every gentleman should have an oppor- tunity to express his views, in order that IG the people of this Dominion and Great Britain should know the unanimity of senti- ment prevaUing throughout the length Md breadth of the land. I speak to-day from a different ttandpoint from that occupied by any other gentleman, from the fact that I am free to confess openly to the House that I am a Unionist as far hs a union of the Mari- time Provinces goes. When the resolutiou was brought down and passed authorizine a delegation to Prince Edward Island, to form a scheme for such a union, it met with mv haarty approval, and I looked forward to the consummation of the measure with a laiee amount of interest. But I was deeply disap- pointed when I found those gentlemen who went on that delegation closed their labors at the instance of a number of delegates from Canada, who desired to frame and carry out what they were pleased to term the larger Union. I felt, with regard to the Ma. ntime Provinces, that inasmuch as our inter- ests were identical, a union would have the efleot of removing datiea which interfered with commercial interchange, equalising the currencies, removing restrictions from trade and reducing the legislative expenses, with- out any risk being incurred, but with the certainty of the general interests being ad- vanced. When we look around our Prov- ince, and see that we are only connected by a narrow neck of land to New Brunswick, that nearly all our ports are open from one year's end to the other, »nd that we area fishing and maritiine people requiring trade with all the world, it 18 obvious that a connection with Canada, whose harbors are closed for the greater part of the year, must result in great disadvantage to this colony. I said that our ports are open for the whole year,— it is real- ly so, at some seasons some few of the small- er harbors aro closed, but as a general rule such 18 not the case. As a maritime and fish- ms people it is necessary, in order to the prosperity of the country, that we should have as nearly a free trade policy as possible, while Canada, being peculiarly situated, re' ?il"r ^P' tP "^« Po''oy Jo every sense of the word. Therefore I say in ail sincerity that m my opinion there is no confederatiou of Nova Scotia with Canada that can result in anything but disaster and taxation, be- time to ' country can bear fer some I said that I looked forward with interest to the consummation of a scheme for a Mari- time Union, and that my disappointment was great when I found that that project was abandoned, but still I looked forward in hope hat some Boheme might be arranged whereby the Confederation of all the Colonies might be carried out without seriously imp»irfn«' the interests of the smaller Provinces, and when the schemo waa brought down I was prepared to give it tho most careful eoneider- tion, and to adopt it if I found it anvthine Ilka what such a scheme should be. But when 1 ctme to examine it, md to find that it seemed to havi ,;n concocted for tho parti, culor ftdvantag i Cantda. and th.».t iH"in teretts of this country would suffer verVma- tcrially from a union on such a basis, then in oomniou with nineteen.twentietha of the people of this Province. I made up my mind .i«ir#w:;5&'. 114 Mr. Howe', effortCJ^JS Sll ti?'*° •'*''* ">»' the country, »d,} that if 11 ^}'^ •e't»tion iu hJmtheiaeMurewoaVlK "1"°* ^«° for <>'*t the poll,.' r°t.„rfT *'**'" 'PProved •entative of a oonnty in^,Ef!? *« ♦''« "pre- third, if not theiBoL^J^^^^ ''" held the Ject » ye.r befor? U ;i,^]f^^'°f on the .ub- 0' the question Mr Hot« ^^'',^"'"°'» "^e no matter what h^. Tie Jl -^ '"^ Z"^*' "«» •m free to oonfesi thl* 7' *««>~a!thougli I terjal addition ofVt«'thi\'' "I* ^^''y ">*- -thefeeliije would ffiiT *^*'' ^« "'me out M it ia to-day Y*^^^"° J«t .» strong make a short and nr.l.-*°,''**^or to-day to order;to.howthecorrS«;/r°>^ ""* 'n •»w»dy advanced I wm ut„^*''*'x'«'"'Ihayo •ndsupport my posTtSn h J .u" * ^"'^ ^Sures notinaccordanVw L kyl^*"; ^« '* « toreferto adefcatrthat tJ "^^''^^y n»»g<' *>» be unable to aonroLw" ¥*° dosed. I of thehon. member for T^ * former speech by way of sup?o«Uio° fn^""''*' «^cepting •uppose that tWimnmet''' '''".'^''"fo" tegisUture with a S?^ ? '"""^ ^^^^^e the in which it was stated th^/*u°*J''« '^''^''one, J'tion of the country t.i''" ^""oial con •nd that the leader of 7h« """"""factory, •how that such a ttatem«„f .^PPo^^'on. to been made, told us S? „''5°"''^ ""^ bare Confederation beine: oarlV^ oonsequenoe of bad run into deb to thla^ °"* ^be Province ffiOO.ooo before six mo„t?rr!i' Government thatweretheoaseUwo„,.Sr *'*P««'^- I' «"veJy that the CoXlra?'^''^* ^^''^ oon- all satijfaotory Wn „f "*"on was not at theex,sting7ateof «ST*u'^ ^»^o' of from that state of thfn« h^?'*^ ^^ '"'duced gentleman, in sayineth'f ♦l"*"*® *be hon. in a better financial fond,*, on^"*K°°"°''y 'as fore-there beine S320 onn ° l*"" ever be- oarry oa the governS? I" *^^ *«a8ury to liged toadmiUn the " t'^'^r.''?"'^ beob- 'uninto debt by $6oo Joo ^TJ^ ^^"^ '« had however, that thn «,o. ^ *" not willine- the country t?i*?hr;t"l?f, ^" ''"^"^e from Mr. Rose's staten-Pn^^' ''"* ^ '»'" wad on the snbject. Before do^P*"''^^ bearing I would remark thaf.L °^.'5''> however Canadian Governmeit havW h ""^"^""' '"« advance to us will h» ^^ ^,P been largely in on the 2d of JuTy, that fi'y applicable i° over to this Pro^nce 1 «rf-°°'«"' bad paid •"dy. The Finance MlF.^r"'^ of our sub- «n'ght, with equal tr.v?^' "* 'bat case the assertion tharwower'M."" f'^'".''"'^ with -u^receipts. m';^ ^'sK/ KX ■hews as ooona. and a glance at it Receipts, PaywentK, $769,689 580,414 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS Hr;«?ubsVt°o fc°J«"«t due to th« ■"•*»'ng, 242,428 !e219,275 559,877 ^of^:et.ijL?mt^'!5«'"Pl«- find that Nov* ^"•'°'l«d we shall time received * .?! * ''" «* «bi, . Tbi, ie thrpthion'rto 1 , . ^^'^'^^ 'nstant, but ^hile I Siake thV ^««mber hope no member will »„fl * • ® "tatement, I feeling_i give thr/iot. I. Ih'" ""^ ««°""ona fisures. it should be •mVrih^'!;"'*'"* 'bese very much, and of co,,™ ^^"*''' fiuotnate expenditure is on i^»r*'. * «"»t deal of th s 000.000 wfh which w°' "'J'^^ ^^bt of S. come into the &„ fe.^''^?'*/er«d to the money to make un r.lV' '" ^""t to find and having fouSd thp ^ ''°''"^° of that debt " bound to find the mLZT^' *'"'' dominion' It i» not as if fhe de^t, of Nn"'!"''?"''"*" SruDswick had exis ed a^^Z®^'?"* o"" New Union; for then luihln -^ time of the had to do would have b^T^'' '""^'^ have 'nterest; but there a« „ ^^ Provide the of the Marilime Province?"* ?.°g«gement' time to time, whir-h h.. x?^*' • "^t^^n? from money for it ono. arS"TK"*^^° hn^o find "".'"Jy to the amount of^*' ^ '^"P" "ot millions, but tn #fcL . "'^ *«ven or cicht "abiIi,ie;%"ie«ed''thi8"S *' .'"1°^ ^ comes interest on ihewhoTe' Iho *^'''' *bi« which over the intercut nn It' '^^ ®«e" of millions will have to hp^ ^a'^ "^T^n or eight subsidies to be paid.''" '^*'^"o''d from the it tfac "tle^'^lTol^^lZ"* '' '"« f'^'-. and that there can be no 5^','° '°. ol«ar a light the conclu,ion that wp i?.^? '^ '° coming to to Canada in any Lm for i'^*™ not indebted prepared a «hnw*.o' advances. Ihavp howtheniatterJLK?',"'.?'^'°bwil shew paid on account of ?hi?°'"'^'.°S the amounts the amounts a?Mr n^ *"° "ilroads. I take ^219,275, tL five m^nthP'V^r'»»king all that should h« ok "* subsidy, which is $84,133 in X Xt"^T^^'' ""^ i' I«av the Canadian oLI!' ^ do not deny ih«t of the receij^,tu8rt"hey\\^'/ •".•/-- thing on account Tour LK^'%5''.'^"ome~ was six and a half mii?- °*bt. If that debt titled togoin w'th^Sns.and wewerelS- bound to^y^Tthe bfunc'^e atrv '^'^ ^*"« for the addition"af t'^'o' a'nd' a'T 'f'^^Pon they would have cbareJrf .? half million,, account as so much adScS r'^*'"** ^^^ bad every item calcu^are^ " i*' ^- ^ have may possiblv hfi prlnJ **' *°d although it few do'llars. ^et'lSe^ve 7t wiffr^^"' «^» the main correct. I take 8fiT k*'^ ^""""i 'n the only complete «irthit»- because it i, by. ^" *°*t we can calculate Amount under Canadian tariff. $1,830 238 80 ■Q^ Nova Scotia tar- '^" j.._ ' 1.402,698,88 we would ho... " , .unaer a Canadian t—" tsuo «27.5"3»:98"more"1hi!!.* >mportationVof "'♦batyear. U -.^^ViS ff^l^Vut^ 'uottheiarplag tJoned we nhall '* has «t thi» '•noeof $340 602 »«Ko the 6tat«meot I remembered, fluctuate •86 a great deal ofth. '"fofthedbtoflS. ova S,otia agreed to «^ehayemf«ottofind ' portion of that debt >c;ney, theDomiS ?J;'»eetthe,nter,i«t 3^m; ^ *"ne of the Jom.a.on would have «en to provide the oes, maturing from Jominion hn to find 1 that p rhups not Of seven or eight -nt ta which their m, and after thi« , it' 'ae cxoetB of » the seven or eight aeducttd from the 't of the facts, and in eo clear a light u»y m coming to ly are not indebted advances. I have t which will shew "aing the amounts railroads. I take ive them, making subsidy, which IS »We, and it leaves do not deny that lay be in advance ijave paid some- cbt. If that debt and we were en- illions, they were ai any tine, and have adopted, if. been called upon a half millions, nat againit our «• I proceed in inparative atate- p.lected in Nova Iff of that year, oulcl h «p»ij nd although it tho extent of a "' be found in 1 because it is 3 oan calculate #1,830.238.86 1.402,698.88 anadian tapin oportations of ider our tariff '. Johncou has OP THE noUfiE OP ASSEMBLY. 115 made a oaloulation producing a different re- sult, making it appear that Nova Scotia would only lose |»59,000, but any such state- ment is preposterous. The free goods could not so nearly balance the account, and s*-- fitfttement shewing such a result is intenat« to deceive and midead. The same thing w»8 done with regard to the imports of New Brunswick, and a most competent person come forward and shewed that in that state- ment an omission was made of $200,000. The whole matter is carried on by that kind of deception. I laid that this country re- quired free trade as nearly as possible, and that will be plainly shewn when we come to place the protective duty of Canada on her, for the importations of Nova Scotia, in 186fi were equal to $38 per head, while those of (anada, commonly considered the most wealthy Coleny, only amounted to $15 per head. When our importations, under a ten per cent, tariff, come to $38 per head, is it not plain that the raising of that 'Miff must be advantageous to the country ? I find also that Canada expends but 86 cents per head for local purposes, while we expend $2, and the same proportion prevails throughout, rhis remark brings me to the consideration of our revenue and assets under Confedera- tion, and I think the statement I made of the figures, a few evenings ago, will be found in tho main correct. I will iihew first our reve- nue from the various sources : Crown Lands, Gold Mines, Coal Mines, Hospital for Insane, Subsidy, Bonus, Revenun. i 42,761.26 25,000.00 45,000.00 20,000.00 :!64.000.00 60,000.00 Estimated Expenditure 456,764.26 Salanea, $ 15,000.00 Criminal Prosecutions, 2,000.00 Coroners' Inquests, 2.000 00 Crown Land Dept., 17,850.00 Education, 164,000.00 Legislative Expenses, 30,000.00 Public Printing, 10,000.00 Public Works, 40,000.00 Department of Mines, 15,000.00 Poor Asylum, 13,000 00 Relief, 6,000.00 Koadsand Bridges, 240,000.00 Steamboats, Ferries, &o. 8,000.00 Navigation Securities, 10,000 00 Provincial Exhibition, 6,000.00 Agriculture, 6,000.00 Dsaf & Dumb Inst. , 2,000.00 Miscellaneous, 12,000,00 598,850.00 Expenditure over Revenue, $142,085.74 1 ask the House if that is the position that ^u" fi,«en/fo'Vhl last' ten ^yeVrs," should be placed 7 I bluih for those who have placed Wova Scotia in that position? In addition to the amounts which I have stated, there has been paid since the lat of July on the new Provincial Building $35,633, and there will be yet to be paid $20,000, making $55,«53. Ihen coming to the department of education, Jl-fnno*^"* r «"»«* °>»ke an advance of 5*45,000 as a loan to the counties, which will. It IS true, be repaid in the subsequent year, out which must be provided out of this year's ^-6 of $80,000 for the new Poors* Asylum amounting to $54,000; and at least $25,080 for interest on excess of public debt. These '*/5? €"J' ^l'''9.653 to be added to the deficit °{^}'^^'21?'^^ ^^'°^ I *«ated before, making • total of $321,738.74 as * defloit for the pre- «ent year. ^ I stated before that I have made this state- ment of figures, not with a view to deceive, but to show the House and the country what we mu«t expect if we are to remain in Con- federation. It would be useless for me to try l"o?n «!?«* appear that we have $200,000 or $dOO,000 to spare from the treasury when we «n*»l owtainly be short over the amount which I have put down for roads and bridges. It has been repeatedly said by the advo- cates of Confedederation : "we have given you a new Act,— you found fault with the guebeo scheme, and therefore we have im- proved it.' I should like to know in what the improvement censists.— the Quebec scheme left us the right to impose export du- ties, but that has been taken away by the ^^cJ.'^L^*''- ^''^ "«» arrangement gives us $60,000 per annum, but it gave a like sum to all the other Provinces, eo that we. who suffer, must have to pay a part of this very money, and the right of laying on an export duty is vested in the General Govern- ment. That is just the position of things under the new arrangement. As regards the oonstitutiocal part of the argument, I would just say that no doubt many members reool- leot the celebrated campaign which Dr. Tap- per made in the western counties,— he held a meeting at Weymouth, among other places, and what was the ground of his argument there? It was that Howe, Archibald and MoLully were governing the country in de- fiance of the well understood wishes of the people, and were going contrary to all British precedent m doing so. He made a most pa- thetio speech, telling us that those gentlemen were going to govern the country in that way for four years. Well, they did so, but at the end of thst time the people had » per- fect right to displace them if they pleased. UT. Tupper, however, thought they had not the right to hold the government for an hour; he declared they were infringing on the constitution, and laid down the doctrine that the constitution belonged to the whole people--that every child in breathing his first breath tc ok in a portion of it— and that any man whu undertook to govern the country m defiance of the wishes of the people would be depriving them of the privileges which belong to them under responsible govern* ment. Tae liou. member for Inverness told ua that the Attorney General was the Tory of Tories and boasted that himself had been brought up at the feet of Gamaliel, learning the principles of Howe. Young, and other leading men of the Liberal party. Hooked at him with amaic- ^^f .H II 116 yet 80 f.r /orgehhnSj? .Sd' ''°'"'' •"^ preached snd practiaed bv fh- , "TP'y'hing on the Liberal aide of polhL m fl'*''"'^ ""^^ »8 to stand up here and fl?*? *•"' "'^"ntry. they had no Sore nS tn L^^ J?'".^'" »'>»» ernment. or to be hfilV °°""""' **"« ^ov- theoon«titation thanthnJ?" ',°y «'^"ge m for hf0 BtateiPent^ ?.;k.?P*'*P''' °'RuMi«.- said that Lord I)erbvr.^'"l"S"'? gentleman on being .,ked whatV/re E.rf R '° ^f^Iand tiM.-hifl reply WM " »},o^'^i^'?^''J?" ■ P«''- m power he isaT^rV but «h?n"' .^"/^^'^ '• he is a Liberal.'' So when Jin k"' '^^Power for Inverness was oatZfT. the h on. member er»I. but when he lit ^L^T" ?° ^" »I^ih- • bigger Torvth«,5,h 'A® "''iP ^»nd he was thie*febare h« been ,dvo«^;-^''°"*'' ^^"^ >" 7-tive principles The wSif^h'"' 'T'"' the country to eovern %ho ,*"' P*°P'e "f never taken a very deo^dpH '"?"';""• ^ have bat only this far thit t w° * .Conservative, when it could be ihown That ."T '''"'"'^ necessary, to aid with hr.fl u "^^^e wis vancement of the tr„„ •A^*'"'^'' ^he ad« country. * '"^"^ interests of ;he of the wellth and ^in^^nff "'"^ *•«* 'Pol^o Polis. Wh9n 1 «ad thi''.^'"<=° ?f the metro- celebration in IlIlSx T thn?°Jf ^^ ^^^ J«'y mtizens must Lave adont/J n '• '^** *" the but I little though? th?t 1 i"""" P'-i'^ciple?. the funds expended in th.f ^*,T """uut of paid out of the public che«t ''Th^If '"^ ''%'' ture was made IbP p« f That expend - pone than to maki ,h^ '"^ '",'• "'^'e'" P»r. districts bel eve *h|t flal?r'°^'' "^''^^ ''""> confederate. That brinii ^n '*« "j^^gly scenes enacted in th« / I® ""^ '"'^'^ the July; while in Haiif^tS^?*'^ °" *•"« ^«' <^f with somethina like rpiSil^y *»» celebrated fact in thecoulitry? Sif^' ^''a* was the other nothing hnt L/ " o"" «"»» against their wishes T«u» k* /confederation tution. and«nirrn» ^"« back your consti- true to the" Bdt ah^fl " ^^d IT° !?^?' "^^ live as a colony of Great Rrif!?' * '^'^''■« to a I we can to advance vo»?l.'°- *' *'" <^o of peace and prot'o? you in i°J^""i" *° *'°»' question "what then" w« Zlfl"- ?« •^•y. I will tell the House M^llhu"^^".^ -Sote'cStr'^^rth^o'Ci %P - tlie Queen, and m»nv»«L^''" of^iod save food has b^en mTde^dK'b?tW°»'',^'^'y under which we are .nfri^Tn^^ *H? eg's'ation shout. When that dav^n5' '"'" J'^'" >" the will be eiven to evorv k ™'\* "ew stimulus The fisherman willSnwK'^'iu^/. '"^"'•'y- m'uer will tSe up hfs ^oir'^ ^'M!'"'' ^^' carpenter his axe Thn^''.. """^ *ho ship large impoita'tio'ns^indTew^rf^ :/ll r""' fused into the nenrU r i.» "" will be in- est doubt that ?f we taii ^T ?°' *•"« "'■ght- tations. instead of co^ntfntX''; our impor- they did last year win Z« ^k *^ '*" off as the right of «eTf!CernZT,t^l '^*'°^'«''- If us the peoDio vrLui^^???^ ^^ restored to percenfta^rlrwTi^i^^V'hivr? '^' «^*««° Canada a heavy hurth.. lltu''"'' P*y'ng ble with us now is th»t 1"^°'^ •^'-" £"** trou- pondingKZs^or tt t'Jes!l.?^ °' °«'"''- repea be granted, as I have 'aUl Th/*^' " try Will go forward c^ish L ' *°^ °oun- 'igor. trade wi" be onened fn'' """r*'^ ""'' the waves of prcsnerftt^ m "" u''^ chsnneis. Scotia's shorKKr P^ovSe wn? ^^'^ the position tb.,t nature has dLLp i k'^J^^ occupy, us OBfi nfth^K ? ueH'ined her to ish crown °* ^^^ ^"^^^^ ge^s in the Brit- Ho'pl; onrv^faToccasS^I^^^^^'-"^ «he already been said nn ft- "'u^^^'^o much has cannot'^investU ii?h anVS'°' '^"^ ^ ^''^ ^ tberefo..e I shall only H^ th^t I S-^' "^ dorse the eentimenfa n,!^* • i • heartily en- tions. and Sfv^ot fn "Slu^So^t' "-'- ME. DESBBISAY's SPEECH. enJi'aVrfnTdS^rYh'-^'^-. ^ ^^^-H concise as possible, bml fSl .h»rth-*" *'" " Hon is of such vast imr.^!* "*.' *hi8 ques- be avoiding a duty T^o4«*f M''** ^ '""'-i have the honor to represent 1^*^"" T^'"" ^ ft by with a silent voC One thTn^' *""■ P*?" indisputable, that Nova ^^r ^°^' *"*' "s day as free nor a8nn»,tl?°i"'".'' *"■« not to- viou. to the"c'oVftderatbn of'Jn'^ «'™P"- with Canada. I know ,m.^ this Province Anti-Coufoderate pa?rv ir« ?'"m*'^ '^** ^^^ discontent that unhannL I •'°. '"'"« ^or the try. but this 8ta"eS cLnot b«° '"' ""'"'■ b.y sound argument SoTe'ftho "''P"'"'"^ advocates of Confederatinn^ .^? warmest declare that the moK « ^'^ J""' '^^''''ate to Nova Scotia was^ost hil^^^"^!]'S"« "^"ds ra^eous, and I ve^Z« L^^'^*°'^o'* and out. notonreco"r3irer;?d^ri!i»ii^|-- va Sootit if has be!S fr.n°'*°.',"°'' ^"° '« No- the leading tn^eS^flft^ffiir^^^^^^^^^^ it full consideration-. ig to force the loyal into a confederation i«Ke back your oonsti- you remain loyal and and feel a desire to *t Bntftin. we will do our inter eeti in time u Jn ^.ime of war. The was asked the other louse •• what then." "11 go up from one other of God save >oor man, whose daily f*':,''y the legislation T'Dg. will join in the iomes a new stimulus braoch of induslry rth with hie line, the 'OTel, and the shin merchant will make 1 new life will be in- nave not the slight- "peal, our impor- uing te fall off aa on be doubled. If nent be restored to eel Jvea the fifteen fl>ve been paying -lor the great trou- receive no corres- xes that we pay. If Fesaid, the ooun- new strength and i m npw chsnneis. 11 roll in on Nova rovinco will enjoy is destined her to : gems in the Brit- 3 addressing the .but 80 much has ibjeot that I feel I new novelty, and lat I heartily en- led in the reeolu- r support. PEECH. Speaker, I shall 3 House to be as 1 that this ques- Qce that I would to those whom I t I were to past > thing, sir, is lans are not to- 18 they were pre- ? this Province 'sserted that the o blame for the 3ts in the coun- b be supported of the warmest not hesitate to dure as regards Dd«d and out. 't that there is hibitedby'^the ion hero in No- y ««8erted that ie, years »go. OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 117 advocated the Union of the Provinces. It was, I admit, urged that the union was dea sirable, and if wisely managed might result in good, but to say that such a scheme as this, with all the advantages for Canada and disadvantages for us, which are its main chariieieristios, was ever dreamt of, much less publicly proclaimed, is not consistent with fact. It was never once hinted, at least up tj the time when its advocates saw a chance of its being effected, that the people ehould not be consulted on a measure like this which would affect themselves and their children for future generations. Tell me not that tbe constitution of our country can be changed, and the rights of this people bar- tered away without reference to those whose interests are immediately affected. If the arguments of the hon. member for Inverness and his friends be correct, then any Legisla* ture, however corrupt, c»n wholly destroy the liberties of the people, and they must tamely submit. If a Legislature, elected as oars was in 1863, can act as they did, and still be within the constitution, then the people cease to have a voice in the managen ment of their affairs, and self-«''• All we required was thl • ., oidii.gtheque«Snf,rS?.rJi"''''^* "^ -ie- tarn .he attention of Th«l/f'''''' ""^ ^ 'h*!! Cuage used bj the Ln tmi "'u '" *''« !"■ resolution on S ,n' ", "''^ ""«d the Jhat he .aid to sK' t"h„^'»e »0" than dealing with thii oSin„ ''m''''®/.."""'^^ of "> Temperance Ml". 7;, ^' Miller said "?»Je to place he wall/" nV ?k *^''''"P' ho Bu'Jdmg between thirmi '^ "'* Provincial org of Nova Sooti^ *" if""?'"''" "'' »h« *Ieo(- measure have f»ithin thfi 1' .°°*^*'*' "^ 'he "heme, let them submit it f?!"""' °/ "^^i buna] cornpeteot to p«, ' iJ^' ""^ ""'v tri. he people at the po ffi "* S^«°' "Po" it. the right view of rho !* .• °** he then took lH.tS?,tem'b7r:feX%"--,«theo,ec. Hor.:d''in"S S'^'^Sge Ja^i "L^fh; !"> whfch be^ defclr'^'' '^« "'«'"«on "> order to fasten fii if- ^'"' *« EngUud, oa IB. I w.,u i ke o 'I'i^""''"'' '"heme up: he .dvi,ed Ht firs ouIht\Tt..\'' '^^ ««'"« 'owed m 1866 ? T .m ..h '^ ^**« heen fol- Plwe in this Houte^.?'"""*"^ »« «»y in my of Nova 8.ot.t oha ged ZT^' ^1'"° '"^^ thw people, prived S ^'' thl f '° '"""' "^' m them in the mann?r fi, T,*''a8t reposed • city wood sawye?°e',e„ tL'*'^- ^^^^ «». from door to door ••«„„*''.! """f ^ho begs bounties of an hour "'^Z ^k""''"'^'" «" the he worth and di "itv T^ ^"^*'' "'"strate the men who bet?aye5 ?h»^'°*" °*<»^e than hey have half thefirs of ,h?",*7' J^°"gh their names, aid now re' ^iiJ'«.'''Ph»bet after the Dominion as the I-! , ''i^'' "*'*"«» 'n t«on Thesemen Ihold^o h.°^*'l'''' ^^°«P- Sootians only in name tnd ^^ ^'f" ^^^^ we that some of them are n,u.??v ^"PP^ to fnd If all of them w^re aw*v ?i! ''^^ ^'^^^iUy, the people would not LffTr^- '^'^ '"terests of J-et me. however add thafr hnu .r^^'^l^etice h*Te been oonsis ent «^u> * *^*""«n "ho «>'» all through are no^?*!' °^, Confederal th08t» who came here dp«l-r" ^l ^'a^sed wit', opposed to the scheme and^? ''**' '^^^ >^«fe »n favor of it. The Ton I^ atwrwards voted ness the other dty hinL ft^^!! ^"'' I»" - ohange the opinions of i^*"** .'^^ '^'^Ped ^>' ^en he saw «Vo«nd these "bL'^h ^''^ r'^""^^' he will not be abin t,.^! benches. I hope believe every m^uifn ^".."y. »"oh thing. I to his Queen :ndi'Th7np"^''"^e'"°« every one of thera «f In. * P!°P'«> *»d that wiil emulate tKndnlflf.^/ "■« 'hirty-six •entinel who Kok nn k- *'"*' ""^'^ Ko^nan of Pompeii, but w^, %"''' ?'« Post at the ga" by the chair.) ^ ^ '"'<''> was repressed DEBATES AND PBOCEEDINM "ould be quift enough '*•*'' ''"' K*"*'!" "On. SPE*iritii_H;. '-i . are speaking. '* benches when others Mr. BliANCHAnn T _ «ince I have bad th^ h?»*^ 'V^ *•>»' never House have I known S Sl^' * "*' •" 'hi, fused permission to in*e?rS5r'°.^« ^e re- f alee some explanat on SrL"«**""-'. and encourage that gallery to rnlb'" /®"*'*t»en t'ons to destroy the onlernfrK*'' ^""'onstra- \re at liberty to do «oh *''!f ^°»8« they oheok them I will "**• •"*' 'fyoa do not "i"-.ffThf |7eYkVr" o^f""th?''Vf "-« '^^ wh.lst 1 am here tr> nr/.v. ''"■ ^ouse, and of this bodyfand rennSh"'",**'* ""^^here I must oall Vou toZer * ^ k for.nything. n.ay never be done aekin ?rT^ ""?* ""» ffallery.) " "Bain. (Cheers in the ga?fery/'.""°«^^-"J «« strangers in the *t?n^ce^:a'rne7';,t^^^^^^^^ the House SheHonsemetataJtr/'^'"'*'*^^- .fro'i'l'Srtf^ Jr^anr '"r^^ ' P«»»-n in accordance with the ni'''*''?^""'^'! » bill jng that thatse^t Jment Kf ''""'*°'' "J^ Wist Hanti. ^'"'"^'"ent be incorj?orated into ^P SS"le^-^«,i,i» Pf tion ^-- -^ salary. "■"'^per, asking for « Utgn muneration. * P^""on for certain re- N v. li. SeirprlSn". f °''°°^ «-««-. 'n the School Law '^^ ^ ^''^ "^ "'teration [.ertnd^Kr/Xsl tn^V^ ^'^^ ^um, License Law. ™°""' "> reference to the suSfrci^™"^' "^'"^ '''o petitions on the same Committee" "consider ?h t''«,.'Jf*wi«S of. ^he return of Mr!°]^^^y''« Petition against up. *^- "'anohard, was then tiken th^pe.StoTo"nX;"rS V^'^K ««-"«* e.uffioient security hirh.i*?^"*' '«?»! and ''Ho^n'"8«pS.rES'Ff'«^^^^^^ 'authorities, but he ^,u,d„o, '«f "«"d by i^ollL"'i^,r. ?;.!5-i«'J.. and J.„„ Mc. ^"'dTgnit^Kfi-^tVa^a'S^^^^^^ '^ouIdfcta^s^lX^P-JJat^m^^^^^ OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 119 'rangers in the were acting oa a Court. It •bvald b« remem- bered, he argued, that the Legislature vaf the highect court from which there w,\8 no appeal, and consequently there was g!-eater necessity to do nothing that might tend to the injury of those whose interests were in their hands. No precedents could be found anywhere — either in England or the colonies —for such a case as was now under consid- eration. It had been decided in the courts below that a member of Parliament cannot be received aa bail, because, although he may be worth the money a hundred times over, yet be cannot be called upon to respond on ac- count of his privilege. In elucidation of this point the learned gentleman cited several cases from May. Saunton. &o. In May, he added, it is stated that there is an order ot the House, that members of the Commons being barristers are not to appear before the House of Lords in matters which are likely to come before the House. What would be thought of a member of Parliament accepting a fee or reward in connection vith matters before the House? The independence of the Hou8« would not be preserved if the mem- i^ers were made directly interested in mattere concerning money that came before them. On the conclusion of Mr. McDonald's re- marks, the galleries were cleared, and the question considered with closed doors. On resuming the following committee was struck : Mr. Ross, Hon. Mr. Robertson, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Preeman, Mr. D. McDonald. Mr. Lawrence, The committee was called to- gether for Wednesday. The House then adjourned. On motion of Mr. Blanohard, Messrs. Blan- ohard. Vail, and Northup were appointed a Committee of the House in reference tu the Legislative Library. Tuesday, 18th Feby. The House met at 11 o'clock. Mr. Kibe presented a petition from Guys- boro' for a bridge across St. Mary's River, and strongly urged the Government to take the matter into consideration. Mr. Blanchabd also spoke in favour of the construction of the work. Mr. Kibe said if the Government would not take the matter up, then the people of Quysboro' would be obliged to ask for leave to incorporate a Company to build the bridge, and a»k tolls thereon. Mr. J. McDonald presented a petition from Black River, Fraser's Grant, Autiaoiiijihe, in refrirence to Education. Also from Black Settlement, Traoadie, to ohauge the nam« thereof, and a bill in accordance with the priiyer thereof. Mr. Landers, petitions for moiity grants. Mr, JouNSON, bill to legalize aHaessnieat roll in Shelburne. Mr. HooPBR, petition of Angus MsDonald and others, for money on a road. Dr. MuHBAT, petition, section No, 12, for a change in a polling place; also a bill ia ac- cordance with the prayer ttvereof. Hon. Mr. Tboop, petition from Annapolis, praying the House to gvaut a survey of a road between Shelburne and Annapolis; be pointed out the neoesgity thst exists for the work in ouestion: Mr. B£anchabd said the former Govern- ment had a given a pledge to construct the work, which was undoubtedly desirable. DBBATr ON THE UKVBA', BB- MOI..UTIONtl. The adjourned debate was then resumed. MB. DESBBISAT'S SPEECH, {COncludid). Mr. DebBbisat then continued his 8peecb|: I was interrupted in the Address which I was making to the House on Saturday, by the hon. member for Inverness. He found fault with the members of this House following the practice of the British House of Commons in expressing their opinions of what they bear, and I think be might have ehoTvu to me a measure of the same forbearance which was exhibited to himself on a previous day when you, Sir, having given orders for the galle* ries to be cleared, the occupants were allowed to remain because that hon. gentleman saw " respectable people" among them. The re* turn I make is this ; 1 am ready to bear my testimony that the hon. member is very use- ful in this House, and I know that since I came here he has given bis attention closely to the public business. When I closed on Sa- turday I was about referring to the cry of disloyalty and annexation which has been brou.9;ht against tbe Anti-confederate paity in this country. From whom does this cry of disloyalty and annexation come? Chiefly from a few persons in the city of Halifax whose stock in trade appears to me to be slander; slander which, in the words of Shakespeare, ■'Outvenoms all the worms of Nile, And makes the meat it feeds uiion." Slander which, as we see day after day, spares neither tbe longest life of usefulness nor the highest respectability. I am happy, however, to know that these persons stand alone, and that they have about at much in- fluence now in this country as they had on the eighteenth of Saptember last. There has been a good deal of lip and pocket loyalty in Nova Saotia, expressly manufactured for the occasion. With this loyalty I have nothing whatever to do. I love England, the home of my fathers and the birthplace of the free; England that leaids the nations, asking them to accept for themselves the great and mani» fold blesBingH that follow in her train; Eng- land that in so many lands, our own in- cluded, has erected her national flag snd the standard of tne cross together, so that the lustre of the one ia mr..de brighter by the glory of the other— this England I love. I do not, however, love this dear land of tbe Mayflower any the less, and tbe rights and interests of her people are to me objeota of special importacsB. A great deal has been said about the t.-iriff, to which the people of Nova Scotia are subjected by the Confedera- tion scheme In examining it, I do not so much care whethc there are certain articles that are admitted duty free which were not free before. The main question which con» cerus th« neonin is thin : Are the articles raotit required for their eubsistencc taxed? If those articles chiefly consumed by the poor people are taxed, whilst those that are used i 120 neter give their oSntL^''" ^''"^ « Corn I-fcw^.nd tbrSi/orJ^R^'/'o^i^f 'he •he ipeeohes of Mr Pi^f.'f «?''!; •"'^ cited «o ehew that it w«" riohf'?'^ ®"' ^'^»'"' Peel the w.y it hM 1^6* pS ^nV^^' »"' «« referred to extended and ,„f" themeaBures tiei and privileeM nf »k ^^'^'^^d the liber- »h««otjLup';^* J/ the people J "hereaa n»»tteri forward. curt.TlfiS,?f ^'"''"S'^' ""^h extent de.troya the rS?8 .li^ * ^"^-^ ^'"■go the people of this coumry ?lr'7'«&« "^ ^e undertook t:j deaf wi,h thii ""«'''• »^en would not have taken ^oMwi" 1"""on. he men who might rise°n kIh ^^^ ''P'"'°'^« of their views on cons w„h '"^'"^'" "^d give h*t he would have ;'fS*L?K^-''^°^'''^^^t that are text books of Sf.-1° *'^?,*« worka without difficulty have nnL^i"^^" ^« niight eet authority and hal^u'*'' ^''0'» the high- oornpetent V ,^'* iaJateV^**.'' ^« "o* power to make law. t^" *° delegate its But he did not do tfaat "t?^ -^^T ^^^y power also to cite Mr p-.:' "' ' he in my will not appear as thi ^ i^'". and I think he oent uporthe llbertiefoW "^ ^^^O'^^h- hon^ member will not for 'et th^« °^ \ '^^' stamp act which was to bfmf ^^^^*l*'?^''**e'^ colonies. It is con.fJnH,, ^ ^^^ °^'^ thirteen federation i« rS/eary to*T''^ '}^' ^on- aecurity of the pro* noes «n . v *^*^'°°« ""d curious that the o!cI a'amn °).^ '* '' certainly argumetit. The prlSe .N "'?" "^« «*«« words that it was nec^ssirv ^ 'M" "'' """V protection and 8ecuritv'^fth'"/he defence. Here you see that the /»m ° "^^on-es.- was given for foroino- the '^t^^'^T" '^"^ heold Co'oniesharbeen ^r^.T^. ^"^ "P^'» Shinklcsu show that tL^'^^'^'^ ^o us. I Scotia are Eort«edbvth„^«°t'^ "^ ^O'* Bri.lsh Parliament, beo^usei?;''"'^ ""^'^^ the British North AmS i Tk V^* ^^'r a tax upon us ThVr » "° "^ht to levy gated pS,wer lo pass thrA T •''^" » dele, people and therSe tty'^So^'ir" -^^ '^>« taxed by the British Pu^i: ^ *" virtually habitants of the old r .].'■*"'"'' ^^ the in- cen.ury. We are^otVien^'/? V^' "»«t ish Parliament anv mS. ^'^ '° 'he Brit. Colonics. How ^.T'tv.is'?.-'"^''" *^« old about? A delegation went, ol'n^, ^?"^^' authorized the BriMsh rV ^"S'and, and the Act; it vvas bo p JL 1^^^^^ ^ ' P»«« r«'ified by ,he poop 'of NnSfs-n*-'"' .'^"«'" Bon given why the lat'eV .hl^f l'*' ^^ rea- withthia law is t!r.f Lw?'--^ ^e satisfied I^ocal Legialature oUx?hp L H' *'' ^^"^ own local wants. That is o„P^?f^^^/°'" '^^^^ ments need hv thi ,^ of the artru- i« debate. .-i'L nature of hoT."''^ "'^^^' seems to be mista,,", i' b1m]« ^ii^'^'"^ ^"^ DU'8 in gcnaral, but it do ?nnf'' ^'^^ ^olo- power each Provino; ?:\°° """"-ol the taxes for locil purposes'' ' '^ ''^^^^'n^l •Lord Camden »4»irl «i'»t I re.jeat i^-l win '.,•!?• ^^?'"o» •« ^his- ^ou.^ta.ati^-^-;;^^4to^^ DEBATES AND PROCEEDINOg "I law of nSire K' •' " ""^'^ " etej! Srass growing in the mo«tnh°°* » ^'•de of ;;.» kingdom which irnotwrK"*"""" "^ everrepreientednincnfu • 'Thioh was not tl^ere i. not » bfide [)'' """stitution began t«ed. was not taxed witfthP .*'''"''• ''""' proprietor." ^"'^ ^he consent of the nn'deiVh,ri?;V't&ol°^''* -- taxed most of the objection, t« °» °°'"*"»t. then foved; butnoSa„c,n%Lvth,?."J'* ^« «" of the people was p v«r „• ^ that the consent North AmericrAot^"*" to this British H^.e^"Stsrn;^^;,rtt«^^ "Address of Thanks'" the debate on the hajo aUenU^Jfn'ffiit.'i^ent'^h'^^' k""- ' lution was taken in thf^ w ^^^"^^ 'he rejo» f'ca I was ill ""bed If il°"f.« Jo tax Ame. o have been Mrried in mv k= . ''*^««"dured ^he agitation of my "L^^^ "^ great was pences, I would have .n^foi^i" '^^ conse. iiand to have laid ,„,? !i *o''°ited some kind have borne my ttrj^r ''°: *•"« floor"o "ly opinion that thi^ M^ ^^^''"'t it. it -g to lay atax upon he P^'*''?' ^»« "o righ? .whole, I will KWvet.hpnT-rx'^P°'» 'he 18 really my oprnion-i'is "th«? ^r''l'''»t Act be repealed. aUsoIutP v ! . „ ^"^ ^f^mp «:ediately': That the iei«'nnf*"^', "'^ '«•• beassigned-becau e it w.?/'"" ('^l «P«1 erroneous principle" ^" ^°"^'^«d on an The obncTxTouiZ't "' *'''' ^'''^ ^^ «he debate ? of 114, aKe ?eL^?f /;i^^«'^d by a m^^^^^^^^^^^^ the House of Lord'itvVn* Z'' carried to dred members. That is ww *il*" two hun. Nova Scotia want he R'i?" u ^^^ P'°P^« ''f '.do with K *t?4. wh I'' ^Jf.'-°'°«"t now to do with ihTs a7t wh ih^ Government out their enercioBftTiri n,» • .- -""" ;he"citv''«ln''*' P.® .intelligence. ion is fouBd«d on th« "e. It,. -.self .net;;! ere is not a, hlmienf ' not"'' wrK*'*"'"" °f not. which was not e constitution begsn • "n tne consent of the '* S°<^*>» wpre taxed own consent, then ' to It would be re- .«»y that the consent "en to this British \l''!,^t^''^' '"the the debate on the ^- ,S^f.*Jfer. since I ent. When the rew* ?°"f« totaxAme. could have endured y bed, so great was nd for the conee- 'liQited some kind n on; this floor to »gaiD8t it. It ia Jdom has no right lonies. Upon the ell the House what ' that the Stamp . totally, and im, ,<'°/o'- the repeal »s founded on ta ndof the debate? aled by a majority :t was carried to re than two hun. lat the people of itish Government »ch is stamping Off . them dieheart- did for the old his schtaie was ight forth in ini- n the corruption hobtiJe is it to oat we may say the whole mat- ' of horrors." 5 told, was de- lesfates by ap- this act". The 's makes a note. by that hon ,orney General, 1 been rumored al had incited militia drill, -d, be took it Pting his own been asserted ihis ;■ .ug was 8nied. I'herc- 3. 1 take it to d deal about ' last election anljderation. < intelligence . the measure. Scotia? No, OP THE HOUSE OF ASaEMBLY. 121 only » iiDall portion of it. Even if erery nan in Halifax had ToteJ for Confederation that woald prove nothing as against the whole people of Nova Scotia. Bat the honest-hearted member for Halifax rose in his place and ts'.d us that since the election a grsat change had taken place in the feelings of the citizens, and I take for granted, from his meane of knowing, that his statement is true. I would like to know what the city of Halifax would be without the rest of Nova Scotia 7 Some people seem to forget the relation it bears to ffhat 18 outside of it. The hen. member for Inverness next referred to the Great Gonfed* erate party ; let us enquire a little into its greatness. Up to the I8ih September the country was deluged by pamphlets of every description bearing on the question. Bogus proclamations, with the Queen'i arms forged, were issued to prevent the electors meeting and consulting on this subject. The hou. member for Halifax spoke about bill stamps, and he could not imagine why so many were required except it was for ornament. They sent down from Ottawa election,noticea orna- mented in the higheit style of rrt, with only blanks left for the candidates' names. Thus were the elections managed in Nova Scotia. After all the official influences of this Prov- ince and of Csnada, used as they were by no means sparingly, what was the result ? They only succeeded in sending one man to Ottawa and two to this House. When the division on these resolutions takes place there will be wit- nessed a sight that was never seen before since Nova Sootir had a Parliament— every county voting on one side on a question of public importance after a lengthened discus- sion. Even the county represented by the hon. mover of the amendment will come up and join hands on the same side. The people of Nova Scotia, by the vote then to be given, will wipe out the false statement con- tained in the preamble of the British North America Act, that they desired to be confed- erated with Canada. Then will the people set iheir seal to the demand for repeal, that is coming up from every town and village and settlement in Nova Sootia. I entertain a good hope that this Union will be repealed. Two grounds for that hope I will mention to the House. One is that I do not believe that He who guides and controls the affairs of men, will allow the people of Nova Scotia to be oppressed by those who have, in the short time that has already elapsed since the pas- lage of the Act, shown the same tyrannical spirit towards us, that characterized their proceedings up to that time. The second ground of my hope is that the appeal of the people, constitutionally made, wil". shortly b- presented at the fountain head of all that is "lovely and of good report " in the widely extended British Empire, where above the noise of party, and the machina- tions of evil and misguided men. even-handed jnstice sits enthroned in the person of our beloved Queen. I believe that the appeal, so made, will be none the less patiently listened to, nor none the less likely to be granted, b^os.use il is seat from a Province which was for a time the home of that royal lady's illustrious father, and in which her own first- born ion was received with an outburst of IG love and loyalty second to none that has greeted him in any portion of her dominions. I thank you, sir, and the House for the atten- tion that has been given to what I have said. I shall cheerfully give my vote, as I am hap- py to know will be the case with almost every other member of the House, in favor of the resolutions laid on the table by the hon Attorney General. MB. LlMDEns' SPEECH. Mr. Landebb— In rising to make a few re- marks on the very impoitant s jjeot before the House, I beg leave to say that lam not here to represent FenianH nor Annexationists, but loyal subjects of Her Majesty the Queen. I believe thut to be a very good maxim whiot. reads never let go a certainty for an uncer- tiinty. It was a certainty that previous to the British Norih America Act Nova Sootia had a good constitution— one that was highly prized by all her people. It was also a cer- tainty that Nova Siocia had a good revenue amply (Sufficient to gmeet all necessary lia- bilities. This Confederation has now taken us into a position of uncertaintj. I am one of those who believe that Nova Scotians should manage the affairs of Nova Sootia— that the voice of the people, her own repre* sentatives, should fix the tariff, appropriate the revenues, and control her offices, and al- low me to ask are we in a position to do that under the Dominion of Canada. I answer no. A people residing seven or eight hundred miles away from us, in whom we have very little confidence, with whom desire very little more political dealings than the Jews of old had with the Samaritans- they now fix our tariffs, appropriate our revenues, and control the offices of our country. If there is any one thing that I desire more than any other that appertains to this lif ;, it is that Nova Scotians may be freed from this detestable Confederation. When I say this I am not speaking only the sentiments of my o\7n mind, but the sentiments of those who sent me here to represent their feelings and pre» sent interests; and feeling so strongly as I do upon this point, doubtless is one reason that causes me to believe chat we shall obtain the repeal we are seeking for. I remember read- ing in a very good book of a certain king who had very large dominions— larger than those of Canada I presume. He had also a very proud prime minister— so very proud that he required every man who went cut of the king's gate to make obeisance to him. It so happened that a certain poor man at the gate refused to comply with this mandate. The consequence of this was that the minister became very angry, but he scorned to lay hands on the poor man alone, and so he de« vised a plan to destroy the whole nation to which he belonged. He succeeded so far as to obtain the king'- T.'Tmiesion to carry out bis wicked design, -k -rhen the king was made better acquaii id with the wickedness of his minister, he saw the crime of destroy- ing ithis ipoor people, and he accordinsly countermanded his order and gave them per- mission also to hang the minister on a gal* lows fifty cubits high. I am confident when our Qoeen, God bleee her ! is made acquaint- 122 if DEBATES Am PROCEEDINoa MB ««M0N'8 ipjcBOH, Mr. Ryehson atld . tu- j- now lasted forsome time inlT"""'° !"•« unnecessary for m«L ' *"'' '* " therefore would not ldoZ']CLT°^' ^"' I '«' I R'vmg expression To tv«Vnr ''^ '''"'""' House has met for M,« i^^ s^^fi'iments. This consideration one af fu"^"'' "^ ^'^^i'^S £ t^V everoame before /h;t ^''"^''^ Que^tic^J called upon to deal Jhh °?"°''"y- W<"»re heen forced upon u'';'*^*'*^ which ha. '0 the people of this „!«/ "",5'*^ ""'^ed have protested in the m*' ^^^ l'^«P'« •etinst th, mea Sro of SL '^*^ "^""^r >8 now the duty oftho V » ■'?'/'"'"°' »nd it '.or by every U«it,te'*'"'"« *°''«Jea- theaselves of this NorO. a^ •°*'*°'' *» nd h«ve now met here /-. i™«'»''c»n Act. Wo appointing our de ^X't^^n '"''^ «^'Jeot by j*nd to lay the Spr •'',P''°'=^«d toEng- Government. Th^pfrHo''^"'"' *^o ^^itisb ^."« be told in pla?n term«?h "/ Z' ^"'^'•"S will never aeree t V h« !n / !^*^ ^^^a Scoti* nada. With fh.V r.."°"^^'J^'-aUd with S tea st.ff w"" endelvourT'K °*J'*'' Confedcra- to ".ke peoplebe?re,e it isl', '^ PP,'heir head. Jf ow It is a 1 wrong Th' *'i"J?''^; but the, diaheartenPd. We^hJt. ^^^'"^ country 1, "d; but I believe whii^*!""'"'' » second Ire '«'d before the Britirh'^pl Sr^ ^"°«'nent« are be granted. Look at th n *™''"'' «Pe«l will you sec thevr^h*. ""^ ^""'d'"" tariff and tbink. ha;eTnflSr,„"r''°^y "''"X hrow off the dnfy on 23 jj,'? country;' they 'no the ooEstrucnnn o^ih"'^" ."■*' enter neutralize « class of ,^L '"''* '" o'-^" t« we-ght and influencefn ^Tl "^<> P03.e.2 tak-1 the duty off the n>h 1 ?'^«y'nce; they the poor man's bread Wh°' '^'"^ and tax ?f bread being taxed •nrio"''^" has known '«to operatior^The cin.^-°^''^""''°"»^e trol of our light bonsp. '''*"' take the con "ur revenues, and do "^. ?'' ''"'^waters P-joper Custom houses";;/ P "" '^'^ think a I control ed by the r!L ."'^ ^^'t offioes are pie of Nova Soo.ia are ""n*^'"'- If the pe"! 8Uoh thing they ar«^i^" to submit tOMv o»aterial f?om what r ?k^', ''^. '"^ differ"? «ot believe the peoSe ha'"^*'''^ ""• "do cents a headlthLTi^ '^"^'^ been" joldfor ko Pathyand never ca"nw'^ ., ""im- " to be left alone ?o man.l ^^^ '^"^ ^e a"k Jhe people never asked Ir^LTr^**'"- Jhey were contented and hrr,^°^*'^"«''OD. •cheme was conceived amlT^ V"**' *hat Tapper and Mr. AVchibalH ^'T'"^ ^y ^'• fowe it upon them and 1 u^"" ''"'""J *„ upon them in thp .h to hg^p buithena "'ost grievous to bea^^ol 'T' that are revenues without their consent?'* ''■'"' ^^^eir nothing to provide for tK^ '^^'"^''^ them and their schools exPPnf «rf°*''* *"'' bridges more money is want^S? ^° "°'8 » head If we must resort toS:ctt«a,t.' ^°°?,' «"''c^« form of Government a tP?;^°°- ^"''er our ample to pay for n»r « u Percent, tariff „an bridges, r^aifwa/ Zermtr\'"''^'^^^ required. If went «« • ' *°'^ whatever wp Perity we would have amn?'"^ °"' P'"^- construotion of our pJrtionft !"."?" ^or the nial Railway. When thp f, *'"'' Intercolo- Mm°^ *''«"' n>usfbeon3tS!?f,^« So to be told m plain terms, and fe -'^ ""«'^ no compromise. If thev canl^ "' *" "'"''e 0/ the Act, then thPv\^ ?"* ^"^t a rep,,i Nova Scotia and we sh^all Z ""T" ^°°>e to ^one Wo doubt there will h^ 7^* '« *'> he Canada and wh.n the ParSml'P'^'^'O'n Ottawa thev will ,1,^1 '^arnament meets »t joothe down 7ho pt prTh?'"^ '^ey oTn to tariff we ask forTl7]J;y ^'^^ P?«« "y nrmlv nn n. vn, _ oraer to keen tim .,^i.- We:uuatOeverycaref.^,7— When t^y LrSE^,-e"ou7 dXfaS bring also a warrant "'th t^« ^'t of repSl traitors who so]j ^f /PPrehend thoseTrch tbey have yet to come hoT'"'^. ^ »'«'*«'" '" Nova Scotia for thpJn "^^ ""^ to be tried Unless, indeed, thev ..Z/ ^'"graceful acts United States 'and^h?5° fc** ',° ^^ '"to ^e remote section of thft L *'"**^^«« in some fjon. I would say *fhat?T,- '•> conclu* Hon. Attorney Gen^eri'^rJaolu/Ln"'''*^ '^' MR. KIHK's SPEECH. atfhisfaTe^sta^eTffho'Sr^^^^wremarks important question wh-^K^^te on this "rv people through the 7en°?K " *«"»ti4 thf Nova Scotia, ^nder n r^" ^""^ breadth o? embarrassing. I lonM ^"'"'^^8 "omewha^ maining quietly in mv }V^ Preferred rt silent vote on *i "^ *eat, and BiJ\t,J t»hle by'Z hon*tdTi"''"r '''d on^the' S;.\^^rl>'^whSlt?i^Itorn^ Sth"i^^-'^-SreS?v^«-n«rG:; teel tha I would be recream t^ ''°°°"''' but i ents and to the people of .J. ™^ constitu- would not be doin<» il.- th's country and not express my s^entim"'/^ "'J^'elf. if I did question. Th^^.o'?,l''°.''Pt3 Plainly on tM. grieved when thevYwr^^^j fi^ county were representativesrtife"3^if*tone^o|th| . if we otnoot ff«t rem»i nobody ic„f;/^:J-re^'o• srions o«Iied Confedcr.. all hL"*'*''^ country i, ?ii^.l°"'"''» second Ire the fc"*'"P"' Will e everybody ^ho. they In th,8 country;' (hey of th.p, in order to I. 1 Province; they ''•«»« 'swine and tax ifcjT ''*'• ''"own '' Confeder«tion oame ^n»d.»ns take the con ».. our I)re»k waters ,";",*'" "tbey think ' *nd Poet oflSoes am ^"cJians. Ifthepeo! ""g to submit to „, fill'^y different niuk they are. I do ave been sold for 80 will submit to any '8 » certain olaw of ^,»o' worth half of the Cpnfederateg- LT^ diegraoe .'t 0" delegates ' the act of repe»l Prehend those arch ^""try^ I believS '" ""d to be tried difgraoeful aots :ced to fly into*S ^emeelrea in gome 'ully endorse the 'oluiiong. 'tea/ewremarkfi fte on this very '8 agitating thj and breadth or ■anoes somewhat e preferred re- and eivlng a ns laid on the ' Attorney Gen y concur, but 1 '3 my oonstitu- ' country, and myself, if r did >iain]yon th'"- county were ^t one of their 'f this House, OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 12a after he had givao them Miuranoea of hit opposition to Union, and in whom they plaeed their confidence, had walked aorois to the other side in direct defiance of bis pled- ges and oft:n repeated opinions, and voted In favor of vhe British North America Act. There otn be 110 doubt as to the motives that actuated thi« gentleman thus to betray his constituents and perve. his principles, when we look at the other enu of the building and see him occupying a seat in that body. There is another gentleman to whom I must also allude, to my great regret— I refer to the gentleman who was elected to the Dominion Parliament in my county, who enjoyed the confidence of the /. ^ti-Uaion party so fully that no one dared to . pposo him, who fought their battles manfully for many years in this House, and was for some time leader of the Anti-Unionists here, but who, on his first ap* pearance in the PArliament at Ottawa, for- sook his friends and accepted the Union. I can do no better to give an idea of the man- ner in which that intelligence was received in his county, and what the people there think of his recent action in this matter, than by reading a resolution adopted at a large and influential public meeting recently held in that county. The resolution says :— Wktrtcu, At the general election In thU Province in Bsptember, 1887, the people of this County declared themielves ag'inst Confeileration in the irott em pbatio and decided manner; And Whtrtat, Mr. Stewart Campbell, for aomo time the aoltnowledged leader of the Anti-Oonfederale party in Nova Bcotia, was nominated in the interest cf snid party, and as an Anti-Confederate returned without opposition. Ani Whereas, The said Mr. 8. Campbell, regardless of bis solemn protestations, and in violation of the confidence reposed in him, did desert his party and "accept the Union;' Therefore it U Resolved, That this meeting dig. claim and repudiate such gross misrepresentation of his constituents, and hold up the man and his aots to the contempt and execration of honorable men. I allude to this matter because the Confede- rate party here are trying to mislead the peo- ple of Canada and England by saying that were it not for a few leading politicians there would be but little opposition to the scheme in Nova Scotia. This, however, is not the case, for although the gentleman just alluded to was perhaps the most popular man even in that county at the time of the recent eleo« tion, there perhaps is no public man at this moment less popular. And why ? Because he accepted the Unioc The people are so determined for repeal that they will sanrifice their best men, if need be, to obtain that re- sult. The learned leader of the Opposition ran- sacked the pages of British history in order to discover a precedent to justify the late Government for the manner in which they forced upon the people of Nova Scotia the British North America Act, He talked of the Catholic Emancipation Act, the abolition of the Corn Laws, and of the Reform Bill, bat he miserably failed to find justification for the course pursuer). It has been proved by the gentlemen who have rf^ferr?.'! ir. iM'—- arguments that those acts were passed in Parliament, not in direct opposition to the wishes of the people, bat the Qovernment 17U forced to pass them by the prestar« brought to bear on them by the people. It baa also been proved that the passing of those acts was an extension of the rights and privileges of the people un 'or the purview of •he existing conatitatioa of Great Britain. Was this the case with the BritisU North America Act ? Did the people ask thM any such act should be (-asspd 7 or was it the mere extension of the righto and liberties of the people of Nova Scotia under the existing constitution? No. sir; it was done in direct opposition to the wiehes of the people, Pe- titions wer2 sent u«p here from all parts of the country, niimerouely rigned, asking that no such meiaure should be passed, but no notice was t%ken of them. It was passed despite the people. Nor was it an extension of the rights and liberties of the oeople of Nova Scotia; it was the very reverse. Our rights and liber- ties have been taken away, and handed over :o a people eight hundred miles *way, with whom we have but little trade or intercourse, giving them the power of taxing ns as they please, of collecting our revenues and dis- bursing them in whatever manner they may think proper. The experience of the last six months has proved that the Canadians are determined freely to exercise the powers they have thus unconstitutionally obtained over ns. They have raised the Tariff, under which Nova Scotia had prospered, and which was found quite sufficient to meet all her wants, from ten to fifteen per cent. ; they have imposed upon us a stamp tax, and they have taxed newspiper literature, and placed a duty en Corn, nnd Co'nmeal, an article which the poor fishermen of Nova Scotia largely oon^ Bume, all of which duties, previous to Union, Nova SooUa was perfectly free. And o^r re» prescutatives in the House of Commons, at Ottawa, were powerless to prevent the impo* sition of those obnoxious acts; and when the mining interests of this Province asked for the concession of one small privilege, the pro- tecting of their interests, by placing a small duty on foreign coal, it was rafused. And it IS because our rights have been thus tram« pled upon, and that we have been so highly t.«ed, and the power of taxation given to a people who know little about us, or our ne- cessities, (saving that we hitherto have been a prosperous people), that we ask repeal. And, sir, because we ask repeal, we are told we are disloyal, annexationists, &o. Now 1 would like to know, who are the people that ask repeal ? They are the bone and sinew of the Province of Nova Scotia. Sons of loyal- ists, of those who fought and bled for the honor of the British flag, and men who are as willing to-day as ever before to do the same, if protection is afforded them. And they do not all comprise the poorer or less intelligent olasn of the people; and it is not true that all or any great portion of the in- telligence is in the Confederate ranks. We ask repeal as a question of right, and nothing but repeal will suit Nova Scotia, or satisfy her people. We are frequently asked, _•• If yuu uo uOi f^ct rcpcai — wuat tueii 7"' .What then. The people of Nova Sootisi will th*^n act as becomes loyal people; who were onje free, and who have now lost their liberticB. ^: t I(i li i m 124 IwWri^r '"^^^'-^ "»*» •''^ a»yi-th. DMATES AND PROCERnTNGS M« TOWNSBlfD'i BPCTOR. »«. lfAO»0H4U)'8 ipxaoo. lb. •ItMMoo of',!,, Hn,. .','•''*'' """Pf look .roond t" ,K1 ..?°".?°'l' " I 'be p«,p|.. T.,k ,i,,l.''";k'',»,''°«°'';»' ^brr/Jr^£H!•?■°«"-"■'»i.' bMked up Cy Mr Sv h"^""' *« fi°<» >' ii.^siK^S>ofI'-""?^^ K..ter„F^'.°-b"o5';b'' St a.nftdJriS,?'" fTr'To'^r" W"™ Bued a simiiaf «J- S: ^"PPer had pur- much beUeT b,/ht did '^'.T'^^ ^'J« ''*^'<» people would no* be 2iti.fi.V''"°'.*>.!°'' »^e u. iMok our old tariff wfi "5? '^ ""^ f?*^* Bolveiand to have no r.n '*"* ''^ *« «"- d«. WedoBotli.h^« °*°*"?° W'thCana- nadi»n8-»ll we TtkiX^u*'''^ ''^'» *•>" Ca- restored. Look at th. r, '" ?"'' °''^ «'***"» this Houae-reduced to^ffrV°°°'''"°° "^ quarter sew^nr 1 J°J'Vi^ ?'"" ">" « •bout the ooBit'tut^n^?^ 1,*''>»? been eaid It i> one oftheSp^„?'p °f *^J' ""^J^o*- 8tate.men had the flor,«if°Sl«nd chat her cipation Act Wa« thPr!V° """ *^« ^°""'- the per'>le beoan.« I. * "■". "J««ted by sure 7 Jr fV In J"* ""PPorted that mea- plaJinteSon' ?yTfavScf th?\^-r-!i"« of the Corn Laws w^ - ' '^'^ '"^ Jibohtion voice of the people «d sfrTE"'/'^ ^^ '^'^ oonetrained br thefop«- -* u?.®"^' ^««1 ^"8 support that'ieJuJr Vaf h7^'°'°° *° turned out on aonoi.n? '^p r^" **•?" * ™an question ? So hi^hl v h,-^^*k " *°''''° °° 'his Mr. Cobdenlhat thiv . i*''^J?l°P^« ^'''^^ of »n estate I can hf^t .f^'""''*'*^. *° ^"^ ^''^ Poland they could nJt'^^kt °"' ^^' ^^'"- 1° •elves, and theraskff? h!^'"? .*"""''» tl**™- we -ilttif ,b':'£ »K.*.' "tV«T ^^i^^ th";ca^^ifrr,.«v: Hr'.°''r^A''_^*9 eo into the American Lnni! on wth. """''"'"■ " **«""" tyrannioaf mle' t.on'in^ri?r?'o**t?"'^=-^'"''« »« '"i^n- tjjin th^'K.°^,'';p;7;°' occasion ♦<> me, fv>r Th« «ai,7i' „",^'''''.^y been fully di.o„W« try duriiig the l"t Pi^K. h«niletin tbeootm- people of NoVa Snot K °'°°""' «nd the the arrum«»I\„?^'* i**" P't'enfly beard n.eri^!;raTd"''ba%"e' t&'^S'^''?^ *^•'' of thii lot hM been intS^/i.^*'?''^ ^Stred •ction of the ranI5 '"?®'^ by the recent power an5 influence in ?he ^^I'V"" ^^' is exceedingly Sed Jm n°°'* Legislature norhrs a.e un^erTh Control of'th^'r""".^"^ l'«rl,«ment and Government Th£"*'''" J>*"IIel case in Bpili.h ^1?* ^''"* '■ "" union of Great BPi.lin .f^?'^ "cept the pursued th^po fc^of Pit?**' L°''* ''" '^'^ey British conetitXn i. trnVi. ^^e ip.rit of the when fraud and cwript nn n.*?'* ^"'"'°'' '"''' ployed in vioI«tinn * Pu ?^ ^^^°^ "^ em- affect any oh iec ° «vif '*'*' constitution to surely result We hl-i """"que^ces must inlreland at the prSsent hLl^*""^^' °^ **»•* bably have an examp'e nearer* Znl'V''- ZS' ner*cd£F--^^^^^^ tSS anxious to ha'^e the deb.tli^"- ^f'^bers are ofEnglaSd-^e beliv«*J^'*??* '""^ P^ople tioe at their' hands- but ff'i'J^"*'''7« J""" people can never Wefsuc'h'*;„*'''-* '^' ^«* have'^aZdenrto effect' rr"'* *^* ''» British America Act to fi/^® m^^"*! "^ *be concerned. In aocordl?« "Nova Scotia is my constituents anfei! ^'*^ ^^^ wishes of them. I support the «.n,°'/ "^^ P'^^^g" *» the House. ^ ^ resolutions now before DB. BEOWN'S SPEECH se?t^oc^cS^ ?o'V.TJ S*t*"7- *•»" P- ol-servatdons on th'eTuertffhtr ^'"^ f T.? hMsterih^suait'i'nTtS/" or nothing thatftrrjtSVgfa OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 126 I h«Te no !ns«a. It ocotrion to de« Kth of time, ior a fally diumaei ion hM bean dii- kmletin theooon- n>onth«, and the I patiently betrd f'y wei^'hed their I with lingular 're. Their hatred ec by the reoent reH-«l«ture Oor oo»l Lejrielttnra 'ur revenue! and of the Ctn»di«D It. There ia no tory except the Ireland. There and the oountry •n. member for h made by the t meaaure. Pitt lis polioy. It j, people or Par- forever. His conitttutional »tementj. The ho oounoila of poaiUon if they ^e ipirit of the nd justice, and force are em- lonstitution to quences muat ample of that anu will pro- lioma. I am meat on thia membera are ght to a close, it the cry of people is un- disloyal, but exatlon. We ice and honor t and people receive jus- lo not, what stion 1 There hat the free injury— thua ntented— the n conclusion sent here by if the Conn- whole body, re that will 'Peal of the >va Scotia ia Ije wishes of n pledge to now before ow the pre- »king some Dearly ex- 1 add little ing; still I hold it to be a duty erery representatiTe owM to bia oonatituenta and to the country, to aay Bomfithinff on a queation the moat vitally im- portint that baa ever been debated on theae floors. My apeeoh shall have one merit at leant. It ekali be shoic. I am a ereat ad- mirer of short epeeohea. although I know it ia common to hear poblio apeakera and their frienda boaat that they had apoken for two or three or more honra. The hearer'a atten- tion ia very apt to fltg after liatening about half-an-hour. and what followa ia very likely to apoil the effect of the whole. I may aay at the outlet that I entirely approve of the Rtt aolutiona before the Houae. I have carefully conned them over, and can find little or no fault either with tbe aentimcnt or the lan> guage. They expreas in a pla'n and forcible itjle the teelinga, the hopes, and the aapira- tions of the great majority cf the people of Nova Scotia. Why has this hateful connection been forced and fastened upon us 7 I think I can give some of the reasons. CAoada wanted as. She was in trouble; she could not reconcile the adverse and conflicting sections of her population ; she needed our aid to strengthen the dominant party; she wanted ua to help pay the interest on her debts, and to help her nght her battles. They had tried aeparation and Union, and many other experimenta, and ended by coming to a dead look. Another reason was that certain leading «ndambitioua men of this and the sister produces thousbt they saw in this measure the means of pecnr* ing to themselves a higher position, a larger sphere, greater honors and emoluments than this little province could offer. They oared not for their country ; they were willing to barter away its rights for their own aggran- disement. I am sure these deiigning men must havr seen that this measure could not possibly be for the public good. No sane man, who is not blinded by interest or preju- dice could, on calm reflection, see anything in it but public calamity. They hoped to af- fect their purposes by the junction of the two great parties that have hitherto alternately swayed the destinies of the provinces. Another reason is to be sough';, I fear, in the position of the Mother Country. It seems clear, too clear, that Great Britain would be glad to solve the question, how she could honorably get lid of us. I regret to be com pelled to admit this, but I think it cannot be denied, looking at the speechta of her states- men in and out of Parliament, the outspoken opinion of a large and resoectable portion of the press, and the general tone of public sen- timent, that this is a just and fair conclusion. If England iceally desired to retain this Province, our case would have received more consideration when brought before the two Houses of Parliament. It is probable she is begirning to perceive we are more trouble than wo are worth, and think this Confede» ration scheme, whether it may bring good or evil to us she cares not, will serve as a decent pretext to cut us adrift. Another reason why Britain is willing to part with ua, ii iLe dixiiuuHy of defeuuiDg us. We are ut- terly unable to defend ourselves. These colo» nies are like a string of beads, strung along the borderi of a great and powerful nation, whiah can swallow na up at any momeiit. The shrewd politicians of the old ooantry fully underbtand that in case of war how im« potiiihie it would be to defend us at a diataoofl of 3000 milea against an enemy with a mil- lion Ughtiog men trained to arms, capable of being inoreaaed to five millions, poaeeaaing ample means, and all the activity, energy and sagacity of the Anglo-Saxon race. They know fall well auoh a contetC could have bat the one reault— defeat and dishonor. We are the weak spot of the Empire. The great Indian territory, surrounded by weak neigh* bora, with its millions of native soldiers, is capable, with very little aid, of self defence. The insular position of the great Pacific C«- loniea, Australia, New Zealand, of Jamaica, the Mauritius, and the other eastern and western isles, makes their defence easy. The same may be said of the Cape Colony and her other African possessions, which cost bat little anxiety or expense. It would aeem, that in the selection and planting of colonies, England alwaya kept a careful eye to the ex« pense c^ftbe'ir maintenance and their defence with the single exception of the North Amer< loan Provinces, which were thrown upon her by the action of the United States loyalists, with scarcely the option of retaining or re« jeoting them. We can h&rdty wonder, then, that Englishmen think these North Amerioaa Colonies are a nuisance and a bore; let ua make a nation of them, and let them set np for themsel.es. I now approach a tender point— j. mean tba sentiment called loyalty. For my own part, no man could be a more sincf re ad- mirer of the British institutions than myself. I have always sympathizeJ with British ar- mies and generals when at war— and with her noble statesmen, her politics and litera* ture when at peace. What I have said of myself will very generally apply to nearly all the people of thia Province. I do not prn.^inia a people belter satisfied with their pol.nicai, oommercialand aooial condition ex- isted on the face of the earth. I am afraid I muat refer to this matter as one of the past. The fftiits stated have greatly changed the popular enthusiasm. I fear this intense feel- ing of loyalty begins to waver, and I must say I am not surprised at it. Hon. Speakee.— I must call you to order. Dr. Brown — I must speak my opinion plainly and distinctly. I think that loyalty should be reciprocal, and that loyalty to our- selves is the first great point. We should take care of ourselves, and Great Britain ia as much bound to be loyal to us as we to her. Loyalty is often only another name for hum- bug and hypocrisy. If Great Bntain is un- willing to take care of us we must only take oare of onrselvea. The learned Speaker hai not called me to order, but haa aimply given me a gentle hint. In the House of Commons much broader language is nied. We find Mr. xiright aaying openly and dis tinctly, if it pleases Nova Scotia to go to the United States let her gr>. We find another— Hon. Speaker— Mr. Bright may sav verv rude things in the british Parliament— h« don't break any rule; but I do not think the hon. member would say that the people are disloyal now. *1 ■' >■ 12« w- i- s f of?h;fS"lnTv'^'"S *° n»y knowledge ■exion with Can»d. ^ ***' ''^ * "O"- Hon. AwT. GuNBBAL-That is true Df BnowN-Still they are auire wfnin^ . remain ai they liave been r Sn/i " °^ '° to a «n6eoh delivered by Mr KmU''"'f."' reap fRMfi ti,.* l • "J',"-"^- K-illam in the r4?;°b-iea7re°'oVrs„r"'"- •dopMS ,n„„.„hlo.l i«„i,„,i,SV,%K'; I will also quote from th« a>rr>. .^. l .^o ' f nu« fu^ "">§ *»>'^"'. «*ked hie opin- "but fhfl « i. ™ ''"^ well." said Sir John, what?" "T 0"e. great omieeion." ..in' upr> «id Lord°8h^elSe*'.?r*"^ ^'^« '' Sht of (K'!^ "r*?'!" J"«' «t*bli8hedTn DEBATES AND PROCEED- 'Tqs 0U8 to namn ti;. ^ "^ '' """'^ be invidi- Umly some gentlemen here SuVt fif' us to comprehend how »hio ^'"C'syfor would the country bea? it?" •• h.„"., h»d full ime for iffleotion on thismatter •nd my clear op nion ia th»t if thi.V matter. signing it, o«n follow " '^"'^ ''' "" fre. lr.il, b,„„„ a,, ^^„-^^ ,°J™M daJio^"' S'y"\vS'"cornV^t'.'' ^^ ^"»'»'- certain wiy^ySa^npSure*" tT" '° * jeotion, but I was ]e«» inx^n '"'°^'"'' "'''• opinio.; an 1 support than thTt S'thi". T^ and citiaenB of KingV ''^ ^'^^ ^^'^^^o^" The means uacd to carry ConfAdor.ti^. nie.ii.w,., 1)J subsidizing a, p?'_ *K!'^; .1.0.1? i:;; 'S;.'"*! '«!,' sv/o arm'" fir.T''^a^ *''^ ^*"® *^*<"8 Of Confederation ? The details. f^r'ptlSen iho'tv^'prr/ed"^^ have gone into the bubjeot fuUy.'^Uia ewv fur any man of common sense to .oo til-» tS*^ expense that will result from ?h« - ^'* ■''* of ^50.S:S oU^iXVin^^Srtion"? =;iVnVdrath%^ S ?-^^ perous and fertile country with nltSrf.'"""' sources almost unsurpSdrtnrrS 'to uT.i eJ 's.»,.t^' ^""' '"« ^^^B that of the 'louBly. Aim exam' ;e of the extr»v»g»nt OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. •xpenditares of Cuiftd*, I will gire you a Hit of tLe rams paid in connection with the rfe- moral of the seat of QoTernment from Qaebeo to Ottawa, ia 1866: From the "Public AcconnUoftht Province of Canada for the fiscal year ended 30o do— Gov Qencrfll's establishmcut, do. . 5v0 00 ji. A. Meredith— do Prov. Eecy'ii office Que- beotoOttawa 4.50603 G. H. Lane— do Prov. Uegistrar'a ( fflee, do. 2,317 26 T. B. Harrington— do He's <.i»'neral'8. do.. 2 868.S0 W. Dickengon— do Finance Departm't. do. 3,276 90 R 8. M. B'.uohette— do. do. do. Customs Branch do 3,320 60 X Nudean— do Bureau of Agrlcalture, do 9.862 67 J. 0. Tache—d '. Public Works Ueptmt. do. 3,496 33 W H- Griffin— do. Post Office Deptmt, do 8,708 86 A. Hus»ell— do. Crown Land Dcptmt, do. 18.245 03 Col MoPfiugiil!— d'> Militia Beptrnt, do. 4,447 28 J F. Taylor— do Legislative Council, do. 10 168.30 W. B Lindsay— lo. House of Assembly, do 20,272 80 Ccalg & Valllm— do for removal of depart- mental furniture 16,199 00 Various sir.atler charge.i 16,765 29 To Hod. Sir N. F BelIeau--to endble him to pay the employees of the p- 3ra! deparimtctscf the Civil Govern- ment an addition of 20 perceat. on their orlgii.i5l allowances 22,623.67 To do— to enable him to pay amounts awarded by Special Commission for losses sustained, &c, including double rents, on acoonnt of re> moval of the seai; cf government.. 22.019.78 $177,469 47 Here you see that the total expense of this removal amounted to the anormoue sum uf S*177,459. I think thi.t a private individual might have been engaged to do the same amount of work for one tenth of that Bum. Another of tae evils of Confederation is the alienation of the affections of the people, but I need not dwell on this subject. The pm- phccy of the Confederate party was that in a short time the people would accept the Bitustion as their neighbors of New Brunswick had done. It appears t^ me the popular feeling is intensified every day. In this oily you now hardly meet a person who raises his voice in favor of Confederation. In my own county it would bo entirely UBekes for a Confederate to offer himself at the huttings. It is not that we have been dc frauded and deceived, but we have been in- insulted— we have not had the ordinary pri- vileges of freemen. One of the greatest wrongs connected with this Confederation is, that all the oflaoos are filled up by persons in whom the people have no confidence— the cunoms and excise, the poat office, the light« house service, the judiciary, and almost every other department are controlled by the Gen- eral Government, and filled up by servants and favorites, and if we want any change in conneotiou with them we must !;o all the way to Ottawa, and most likdy fail m our ap- >^.!!{*!itin!! af!er>!r&!'dfi, 'i wonder how my friend, Mr. Blanchard, can stand up and say that it is right that theta offices should be flUed by a party that forms only a fraotion of the people of this Protinoe. In closing I will refer to an old fable which I r^ad with interelt a long time ago. Two pots, one eatthen and the other iron, agreed to take a voyage together; the earthen pot was shy at first, considering . i^ frail nature, to undertake '""it. But ths Ivok pot promised fits companion whatever tiitf^- pened to take oare of it. fhe weather was fine, and the two sailed along vety gaily on the smooth current for a while, but bye and bye there came up a squall, and the iron }iot came into contact with the earthen pot tni knocked it to pieces. That will be the way with us. If we jonient io make the toyjige with hei- Csnvaa will tink us .1 conolniiofii. I will only say that I hope that the application for repeal that is now being, made to England will be sucoessfal. I do not iinow much about governments and diplomacy, but I trust a sense of iuitice will prevail with theruleiB of the British nation, an ' that we shall be i«t- stored to our former bappy condition. noif. MS. PEBOtJBSON'S SPEECH. Hon. J. Febqusson said.— Since you, air, have dire/jtly addressed me, I shall make » vory few remarks. There is no doubt that theie is s> deep feeAtng of diiEOOutent pervading the whole P.ovince in consequence of the Act of Union which has been recently oonaum- mated without the consent of the people. I much mistake the people of Nova 8ootia if they do not resent it at some time or another. I don't wish to make any threats, but we oan- *iut conceal from ourselves the fact— for i)t is palpable through the whole country and it will be soon known in England—that never was a greater act of injuetice perpetrated on a free people since the American revolution. No rc?ard was paid to the petiiions we sent home a short while ago. Now delegates are going across the wat^r to make known the voice of the people through the constitutional channel; that is, through this House; and I have great faith in thesen^e of justice, in the love of fair play, in the wisdom of the people and the legislature and statesmen of England, that they will do us that justice to which we are entitled. I am confident that the time is not far distant when tho Province of Nova Scotia will bo gratified by the know- ledge that the obnosious Aotof Union, so far as we are concerned, will be repealed, and we shall obtain our rifjhts and liberties, of which we have been so aajustly deprived, and then oouten: and happiness will again prevail among us as in times past. ME. YOUXO'S SPKKCn. Mr. YouNQ said :— In ancient times it was the custom for the younger senators to speak first, and suchapjiears to have been the case to a certain ext»nt in the present debate. I have no intention, let me say at the outset, to go into the financial part of this argu- ment; the Provincial Seoret»ry gave us all the information that was necessary on this particular point. All I can say is that last year we had both our pockets full of money, but now we have iittie or nothintc in iheoi. As respects the Canadian Parliament, see what was the very first thing they did— they added insult to injury; they send .aereons I' 128 \n the power ofKLi\t^'kr,iLenl\'''°"' doubt considerable power-hhf.h ^" "J^ shooine done Tw for ?h:r^ '^"^^ !•»''« ituiffioult eDoughno»tofi^/t. 1*^'!;'' ^""^ the city of H.^fiS^" '\V*utdi an Act to burn aJe,\\.ia^- They told Xidfu? if.t- *' ""^ ^"^ °°' ""' it- I remember one ietiSm'^n" "?'^ •'''°"'°°- Canadian,oSSooOton^^^^^^^ whereae the fact is Wer f in.ria^if'''PP?^' ^«oh .hipping a. K^'s^o^ot bJ^R o'd late Wi,u{'ur'."°'r'*",^ **>« HctS, of the »h«m tr-t T 1. "^y o<"istitueEtB say if I toli mistake not the Canadian, had their reore h,ng, a. oompared with ourselve" I k„o^" it from ny knowledge of the eamJ nu.- I^ pereone in New Brunswick A vlTJ f.. ^^ d.J. loyalty wa.veryTirbufVota^'da; aoout It. I tlimk I am loya myself but r rln not make 60 much talk about it as.ome ir eon.; I, how my loyalty by mj Zb ' li (her'^i'''''' resolution;. I .tlnlX for !«♦?,. >«««»':'"» Repeal, I hope we wm ff li '^ ^"* J *°l "."* "^ «»nguine a. some S Jl!?*^'' "ff S** ^'' what then? K In have to Buffer; we have to be a .eoond Po and; it will oomo to that. The worW mav i!if.„"*^r..l" t^^.House and to the neoolo Thehon. member for Inverness talked about DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS Poi.o?fh?t ^w / arno'tTn-rhtrd' .1 ?t' 1 am a good deal like the EsSn moSlrch ipon hil.°° P°""'°' "<* "'^ '' l«'t it» effect Ma. PDBDT'S SPEKCn. Jno»>»e lb« Import..™ oftbl c£t imj JelirL ; l£?l''!,"'^'",'° "•I'"'" l«S ™J Sb.",l'j '°"' " '• "'«•"» P«"» raui -the Governor surrounded himaelf wUh whom he pleased, and the country had no H?T.1'^ make him change hi. councillors sa wi''' ?P''^'°°« "f t"^" people would be re St at ki'„7d?d'nof '''"°' ''>*' a\°overnme"t Of tllfc rtrlt-^^^d'^r^pU^ sS?-^ &^"^:ssnis^is;^9f quired that they should havnfhL /^, which rightful.y'^eSnged t*'th m Win not delay to narrato thl means by which No vflelesSf"' ^«"g'^°»'"« to enfoy the%ri: viieges of a free peop e. Thev had a rZutL «ete flo'^TT'r''''^ T'^ 'howV'tfem- miInL^J"*»?' ])eop e, and had striven hard to The th,rf.pl?^?"•'f "^ ^"^ •" tliis country lae thirteen old colon e. lelt the Stamr, An/ ?/'«/«"« to bear,-on its ,>as.age they ^ani fovaf « A"'^'^'"'^' ^"' NovaScotia remained ftT.fvai.V''"'' ''''^° ^'^ *'•'» hour. We showed fhlilV"'' '''*.""S t'^^ir land, and bu^dinff their houses with one hand they were ■^if^nn'^ ing their families from the attack. Sit ih^e^y^u^rw^erV/y^S^L^' ">'V^^^ .^•rJ.".f--V to «i/th^miiitKrin'S flag on this side of the AUant^o I am h« descendant of British loSts.' and T feel OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 129 thut the history of our country warrants us in asking the jastioe wbjch we are about to demand of the British GoTernment, and in believing that our request will be heard. I might go on to shew that this country has not only been loyal, but that she has been generous. Look back at our early history, and yon will find that when fires occurred in Boston, Montreal, Miramichi, and other places, at various times. Nova Scotia contri- buted freely for their relief. Not only so, but when the battle of Waterloo took place, and the British soldiers had left widows and orphans to be provided for, he loyalty and generosity of this country was shewn by a contribution that was honorable and hand- some. Yet we are told tha. because we stand up, like men of a free country should, we are disloyal. I truit the time has now arrived when no man will dare to hurl the slander of disloyalty at the Anti-oonfederate party in this Province. Loyalty does not surely pre- vent a people from claimins; their rights and privileges. Among the other characteristics of Nova Scotian's enterprise has been promi- nent. I might enumerate the principles of trade, and shew that in none of thorn have we been deficient. Method of government and frugality of government might form another branch of my argument by which I might shew that we have been able to govern our- selves in a most honorable and satisfactory manner. Bravery might also furnish a topic for remark for the brave and proud hearts of Nova Sootians would never allow any aggres- sor, single-handed, or in a multitude, to trample on their rights. They have nerve and manliness enough to resist, and when I heard it said that our request for repeal will be unheeded, and that th' British Govern- ment will carry out the Gomederation Act by means of the troops in the citadel, I feel that they may crush out the free spirit of Nova Scotians; but they will have something to do which I trust never will be done. I trust that the Government will never ask British troops to fire on a Nova Sootian, and I believe that Nova Sootians will not require it, for, with fair argument and common sense they will obtain from the British Govern* ment their rights as free subjects. It is not worth while now to narrate at length what has transpired from the time when we were a Crown Colony. As intelligence advan- ced, and our resources were developed, a change was found to be necessary in the con- stitution of the Province. I rsfer now to the time when responsible government was ob- tained — to the period when the Howes and others came out and asked that the people should have more freedom and power in their Assembly, and that the government should be carried on according to their wishes. Those events are well recollected and under- stood in the country, but how was that change obtained? It was by going honestly to the country and asking the people whe- ther they desired a change in their institu- tionsj^gopg throughout the length and Orc&utQ 01 128 SSuu^ apptAilug iCp t/u6 eOUIld sense of Nova Sootians, and asking them to elect men who would join in the demand for more power and freedom. The demand was made that the doors of the Council Chamber 17 should be unlocked, and though the Council asserted its rights with a great deal of dignity and force, yet those doors were opened by pressure of public opinion. The Councillors have ever since been under the public eye. The British Govi^rnment at that time gave up something— lb gave up the power of taxing us and oi .appointing our Executive Councillors without our consent, and vested in this House the full control of the revenues; we were allowed in short to govern ourselves in the manner we thought beet. I might go on to show that although from the time when the first tree was out in Halifax to the time when Responsible Government was granted, our progress was slow. Yet from the mo- ment when the people obtained control of their own affairs, our trade and resources were developed, and the country prospered in a ratio far beyond what it had achieved up to that period. It was obvious to any one that our own people ought to be better judges of their own requirements than persons across the watci*. I have said that our progress was slow since 1749 down to the time when Res- ponsible Government was conceded, and I might cite many facts in proof of the asser- tion; in 18j.o the first coach went to Wind- sor, in 1814 we had only three lighthouses, in 1825 our population was only a little over 100,000. But when Responsible Government was granted, and power given to the people to control the Government, the country advan- ced with a degree of prosperity which was most honorable to it. We immediately com- menced building breakwaters and light- houses, improving harbors, opening free roads, and building bridges, extending pos- tal communication, and building railways, and yet, until after Confederation, we had no bread tax, no paper tax, no stamp act, our tariflF was low, and yet our people were increasfng in numbers and in wealth. We naturally enough looked about to see what resources we had that could be developed; we were nearly surrounded by the sea, we had harbors plentiful and good, timber was convenient, and there was no reason why we should not turn our attention to shipbnild- ing. We did so, and the result is that Nova Scotia owns more shipping in proportion to her population than any country in the world. I was struck the other day with m statement which shewed that in 1866 we own- ed 3509 Svessels, of 400,895 tons, while New Brunswick, Ontario and Quebec, forming the great country which the Unionists would have us believe is a garden of Er^en, owned altogether but 2873 vessels, of 459,800 tons. Let us govern our own country, and we will '"vclop our resources aad foster those inter- t ts which are most congenial to the country. TheJ public records show that down to 1863 there took place in this Assembly constitu- tional debates ^bich are fresh in the minds of most of us, and I desire to draw attention to what took place particularly in 1863. Since responsible government was established all the public grievances were brought before buc peopie '^t me gsBsrai cisctios, und at that date there were no constitutional difii' culties, no grave public errors, but the great question before the country, whether honestly raised or not I will not stop to inquire, was mm ^ ii^-^ 130 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS .,*h»t of rttrtnchment. I pat it to the Home th»t If there had been grievances they would have been brought forward; but that seemed to be the only question which the people were Mketl to decide upon. As a proof of this I refer you to Dr. Tupper's letters and speeches. In a letter dated Mai' 16, 1863 over his own signature, he raises the issues for the electioi"3. It is true that in that let- ter he turns aside for the purpose of show- ing that Mr. McCuHy was a man of most abumlnable character, tbotured and tainted trom the crown of bis head to the soles of his feet when money and his own advancement were concerned; but he puts forward as the Kreat issue, " taxation or retrenchment." ihe people decided, and returned a Urge party to the House in favor of retrenchment, taking the issue as they found it placed be- fore them. Then we come down to 1866, and to what more particularly concerns the sub- ject under debate— the resolation on which the Confederation Act is said to be based. To my mind that resolution lacks the essential ^rnentof authority to the delegates to do as they have done. The word "arrange" did not authorize the delegates to accomplish and complete an act; it merely put them in a position to discuss and eliminate all the ar- gumente for and ag.'^.inst the scheme, and to put the maiter in proper shape before the House. The delegates, under that resolution. had a right to only " arrange " the political questions of the day— to bring the material into shape; but the command remained in the Legislature, and they were bound to come back for final orders. Before the delegates went to England there were no petitions in favor of the measure, but numerous petitions •gainst It; our condition was sound and good, apd the people little thought that so great a change would be made without ask- ing their consent. So it laid in my mind ; I was convinced that the delegates would never think of having tb act passed without con- sulting the people, and I had too much con- fidence in the Itnperial Parliament to suppoee that It would pass it under such circumstances, lo dwell 1' he thought it was a sound principle to a.low the people to decide for themselves. Imi'rht go through the letters tnd speeches of Messrs. MoCully and Archi- bald, and shew that they expressed the seme desire to let the people rule, but I will not trouble the House with farther remarks on that|branch of the subject, and will come down to the action of the delegates in Eng- iHnd in England. Here I may say it becomes necessary that there should be put on record the fact that when politicians undertake to tamper with the rights of a free people they must suffer, as the just consequences of their acts, disgrace, shame, ignominy, and con- signment to private life. This view of the case should be put plainly forward. We find after the delegates went to England something stated in the Qoeen'a Speech, which no honest man in this Province will enderse : "that the delegates represented all parties and opinions in this Province." I think there is no man with hardihood enough to assert that Archibald and McCullyled at that time the old Liberal party in this Province. It is true that years ago when the party lines were drawn they did lead the Liberal party to a certain extent, but they did not in Eng- Isnd represent the opinions of that party. The Confederation scheme destroyed all party lines in this country, and when to-day I look around these benches and see Liberals and Conservatives joined hand in hand to free the country from the Confederation Act, I feel that all party ties are broken, and that the people have come together for a common protection. The statement therefore that the delegates represented all parties was untrue. If I am asked for further proof of my asser- tion, I point to the history of the Quebec scheme :— The delegates went to Quebec and prepared their scheme in secret,— they re- turned, and by the action of an honest Prince Edward Islander, the people became aware of its nature. As soon as the public got hold of it. meetings were held, the scheme wai condemned, and Archibald and McCully were likewise condemned as the prominent men of their party. And yet after that they dared to go to England, and claim to repre- sent ::he opinions of the old Liberal party in this country, and caused such a statement to be put in the Queen's Speech. It was patent to every one that the Qunbeo scheme was con- demned as not being what the country want- ed. I will next turn attention to what oo* oarred in the Honse of Commons, and with all renpect for that body that it deservss, with no desire to nse a harsh expression oon« corning any man, I must say there isaie- sponsibHity resting upon every one of us to call Ithingi by their proper names, and to speak our true feelings. We look at what took place in the British Parliament, and means used to pasi this Act. Does any man pr«tei»d to aay that there the truth prevailed, or thit our delegates ditoharged their duties faitWuUyT Who wrt Dr. Topper T W»«he not as it were our sentinel— the representative of our Government, bound by the ties of duty to speak the truth, nay sir, to speak the whole truth and nothing but the truth? What, then, was the truth which ht waa called upon to state 7 In the disouniou in the House of Commons the fact came out that the ques- tion had not been submitted to the peopw at the polls. Mr. Bright enunbiated the prin» ciple that before so material a change iti the constitution could be made, tearing up onr old constitutions and forming new ones, the people should in justice bo consulted. That announcement struck the ear of Mr. Watkin, who was supporting the measure, as requir- ing an ansvrer, and although be was trying to press the bill through at f,ll haiards, earn ing little for us and much for Canada, he thought it necessary to consult Dr. Tupper about the facts. Dr. Tupper's statement of the matter at Truro waa something to this ef- fect : "Mr. Watkin left his seat, came over and spoke to me. we went aside and con- versed, &o." It is plain that Mr. Watkin desired to know wh«!ther the measure had ever been before the people or not, and he should have had a prompt and candid reply. According to Dr. Tupper's own statement, Mr. Watkin got from him an answer, and it L not pretended that Watkin even conversed with any other person on the subject at that time except Dr. Tupper. After consultation, he returned to his seat, and made* state- ment which we all know to be untrue. The Speakbb "luggested that it would be better not to discuss the proceedings in an- other Parliament. Mr. PuBDT continued— The answer which Mr. Watkin gave ie on record, and any man can read it for himself. I shall be clearly in order in saying that Dr. Tupper should have been there as the guardian of our rights and interests, bearing our commission, and in the discharge of his duties if he heard a man state an untruth he should have corrected that untruth — he should have stated that the qutition never was submitted to the people at the rtolls. (T.ie usual hour for recess having arrived, the Fouse adjourned and resumed at three o'cloot, when the debate was resumed, and Mr. Piirdy continued.)— It has been contend* ed thf t Dr. Tupper's answer to Mr, WatMn was based on a lecture delivered in Bt. John by the former; that lecture, then, has some pro'Jiinenoe on this question. I cannot say wbAt its contents were, for it was never pub- li'jhed or circulated in this Province. I find, 'aowever, in referring to the Colonist of that period, some extracts from the press of New Brunswick which show pretty well what the views entertained there on the subject were. The Colonist, which was the exponent of Dr. Tupper's opinions, copied this extract from the St. John Morning JVews .— '• The lecturer was a fair tjpe of the diipleaiedor disappointed OonserratlVe. It was evident, from the moment be stepped off neutral politioal ground, that It waf his Inteatlon to have a dash at somebody; and if hn nnuM not inceeed In the tonmiment to unhorM his adversaries, indulging In cenun looiish poiitios i notions of their own, ho would at least bb able tb shiver a lanoe over the backs of his aadlence,— let people know at all events whi.t Us iltaugbt of detta' gofuef , goreraors, and oelonial slavery. Ik* kniibM >"K 132 DEBATES AND PROCEIDINOS' i; *i,1 of th* lecture Implied that reeponsible gOTernment WM a delation; tbat governors hive t9o much power; that eolonUtt were tied hand and toot to the chariot wheeU ef DownlDg street ; that our itatesmen were not)odle*i that beyend the limita of their reipwttvo provlnees they were unknown; that BnKland enubbei) us at every turn, and when .he had a treaty to make #lth a foreign power the colonies were regarded with contempt, and their territories and fishing privileges talcen away from them." I will not w»ry the House with lengthy extr»ctt, bu< I wish to direct attention brief- ly to the oiroumitanoes eurrounding the po» litioftl quBitioBB of that day, for I believe that taoh a, view will shew the just'-e of the remarks which I b»ve quoted, Dr. Tapper w»B freih from a oonititntional debate ia which he imagined that the grievances were entirely on hit aide. I deny that at that time he bad within his brain any practical idea about the Union of the Colonies, and if I am asked for the proof, I reply that immediately after deliTering the lecture alluded to, be de- livered a leotora to another audience in Port- land, (St. John), not on a confederated Union of the Provisoes at a whole, but on a legislative Union of tha Maritime Provinces only. If he were consistent in the one leo- tiire he was not in the other, aad thus the remarks of the JVews we justified. It may Aem out of place to refer to this matter, but it should be remembered that on these lee* tures has been based thp argmnent that the people at tiae polls had i en the subject into consideration, which is not true. Much has been said on the oosstitutional branch of the argument, but as I not a lawyer, I cannot be expected to deal tery fully with it. I would however direct th« attention of that great constitutional lawyer the leader of the opposition, to the remarks of Mr. Adderly,. in the House of Commons. SSeferriug to aa> Aet passed in the previous seesioa, he said : " In 1881 Nova Bcotia took the lead im promoting the scheme of union, and was thn first to- propose that- delegates should be sent to this country, to confer on the subject with the then Colonial Minister tha Duke of Newcastle, who promised that, if the (Jesiro of the colonies for the union were clearly made out. the pro- position would be taken into careful consideration by this country. He mentioned this circumststtoe, be- cause It had been recently asserted that the Ctovern- ment at home had pressed this matter on refiifft-ant oelonies. In consequence of the Duke of Newc!wtle"s reply to the proposal of the Legislature of Nova Sc»lil«, that colony, together with the other maritime pw- vinoes, propcsed at the end of 1864 to hold a confet- ence, and then for the first time Canada came fjrwarcf» asking to be permitted to form part of the conferenoei. It was material that that fact should b; borno In mind, because it had bsen ttated that Canada bad, tor Us own local purpose, urged the measure on the small er provinces. It had been said that the difficulties of Canada had been the cause of the proposal for the union. It certainly was true that at that moment Canada had constitutional difficulties to contend with; but they were no more the cuse of the proposition for the union of the provinces than the divorce of Ilenry VIII was the cause cf the Beformatlon, though they might have been acts which precipitated what all deslre'i." I vake it for granted that Mr. Adderley had in his mind the fact that the Colony had re- presentatiTe institutions, and therefore con- cluded that its people had a right to be con- sulted before their constitution was broken down. Some persons think that we had po right to disouBS the propriety of the Union Aot, bat that we mqst take just wbateTer the British Governinejt may choose to gire ns. With all due deference to the wisdom and forethought of the statesmen who wore ewra- ged in the passage of the Act, I submit that we should be allowed to express an opinion, upon the Aot itieJf, and upon its details. V fu° o .5*?"^ '**°^ *° '^ew t'>»t «he policy of the British Government has not always been the best, and that they have made mistakes, whion they afterwards admitted. For exam- ple their policy towards the thirteen Colonies- was not a wise one. Referring to the Confe* deration Act, I find in the clause respeotine the Intercolonial Railway, something which goes to prove that the dele,n:ate« exceeded their authority under the resolution of our legislature. This clause appears in the Aet a» the consideration in a bond, and is as foJ». lows : — '■}''^^^'i''^^theProvmceaot Canada, Nova Boo h.f^i^"'' *':"°'''"='"'*'^ '«'"«'» •» a Declaration that the construction of (he Intercolonial Ballwav fs essential to the eonaolidation of the Union of British North America, and to the assent thereto of Nova Sco .™?S *i,^.*'' Brunswick, and have consequently agreed that provision should be made for its immedi aw oonstNuctlon by the Government of Canada: » if*fi"L^' lu °i^" '" «'^« «*"" to that agreement it shall be the duty of the aovemment and Parlla ment of Canada to provide for the commencement, within six months after the Union, ef a railway con noting the River 8t. Lawrence with the city of Ualifajt m Nova Scotia, and for the construction thereof with rmUcresSe°d."°' '"^ ""P"^"'"' «>«'««'• "'"^ "" It would appear from that that the dele* gates accepted the terms which they eot in consideration of the railway, and if we leave that clause out the inference is that their as- sent would not have been given. No person authorized the delegates to make the railway the consideration for Union— before they did BO some one must have had the right to be consulted, and the question is who should it have been? I answer that in my belief the people, whose destinies were in the hands of these men, whose interests for weal or for woe were to be afifected. should have had an opportunity of adjudicating on the whole matter. But it is urged by many that be- cause certain leading men were in favor of Confederation, therefore there was necessity for consulting the people. With all respect for the learning and discretion of the mem- bers of |the learned professions who favor Union, I take it for granted that they can hardly claim to be able to judge of what our ^•"°'°S interests require, so well as the 48.. 000 farmers, head of families, do know what IS likely to affect their interests as well ^s doctors and lawyers. Again, would you e.xclude the 16,000 mechanics of this Prov. moe, the nierchants, and all those who repre- •en t the industry, trade and commerce of the ooaotry from saying what affects their in- teres tef Would you take from our 15 000 fiihei men the right to have their voice in a matter so deeply affecting their welfare? Must the rights of all these classes be disposed of upotx the ipse dixit of a few ind-iduals. however learned and intelligent the> .aay be? ResDonaioihtv in thin m«f*a. ^^.t- .i.i..'i. ... somebody, and who was it that prevented the people frons being consulted ? Who were the men who wsve bold enough to take hold of the oonstUntltfa and stifle the voloe of the boose to gire ns. the wiadom and who were enga- K I submit that wesi an opinion< iir its details. F hat the policy oil not Kitrsys been made mistakes' ted. For ezama hirteen Colonies 3g to the Confe« lau«e respeoting iomething whioh lei-iates exceeded egolution of our pears in the Aet l.and is as foi*- Oanada, Nora 800 i in a Declaration colonial Baihvay ts Union of BriUth lereto of Nova Bco lave consequently ide for its immedi iment of Canada: that agreement, iment and Parlia je commencement, of a railvray con 1 the city of Ualifax. ction thereof with n thereof, with all. that the dele» 3h they got in and if we leate is that their as- in. No person ike the railway before they did he right to be I who should it 1 my belief the n the hands of )r weal or for 1 have had an on the whole many that he- re in favor of • was neoeseity ith all respect n of the mem- os who favor that they can ge of what our well as the 48.* ies, do know iterests as well iin, would you of this Prov* ose who repre- mmerce of the Bfeots their in- im our 15,000 eir voice in a heir welfare? ses be disposed w indn iduals. tthe> may be? i«ov avtauu lu prevented the Who were the take hold of Toioe of the OP THE HOUSE OP A»SEMBLY. 133 electors of this country? Bold men they muet have been who usurped the functions of every man in the Province. They were the men who advooated the principle of going to the polls with every important measure, — some of them had placed on record that reso- lution declaring that no change should take place even in the Legislative Council without the people being consulted. When they under- took to undermine the constitution, to nanrp the rights and stifle the voice of Nova Scotia, they should have shrunk from the responsi- bility, ana asked themselves " are we the men to seize upon the liberties of the people after all the pledges we have given, turn re- creant to the trust reposed in. and prevent them from being beard at the polls?" I have asked " who are the men ?" 1 mention first the name of Pr. Tapper, not because it gives me any great pleasure to do so, but be- cause I held him responsible in the first de- gree. Being the leader of the Qovernment, he, of all other men, should not have been guilty of this arbitrary exercise of authority. If it is asked how be came to be in power I answer that when the delegates to Charlotte- town had got permission of the Governor Oeneral to go to Quebec, there to arrange the terms of Union, he, as leader of the Qov- ernment, should have said " no, the people have never been consulted, and I will not go unless it is understood fairly that the people will be heard before the matter is decided on." Again, he went voluntarily to England on the delegation,— could he not then have said to the House of Assembly, " I will accept the introduction which the resolution of this Le- gislature will give me, but a clause must be put in which will bring the matter back to the people at the polls," Nor is that all,— when he went to England and decided on the scheme, even supposing be considered it a good one, he c lould have considered the rights of the people, and made a provision in the Act by which they would have been con- sulted. And, coming down to a late stage, if the truth had been told by Mr. Watkin in the House of Common [in answer to Mr. Brigbt'r remarks, the operations of the Act would have been Quspended until it came back for ratification. Where is the authority for such a course ? has been asked. The Leader of the Opposition refers us to the Corn Laws, the Emancipation Laws, and the Reform Bills. Perhaps his reasoning upon this point may be sou- x, but it struck me as being a piece of special pleading to say that because the British Parliament passed measures like those, it could pass an act like that which wiought about COTifederation, de- stroying our Constitution and affecting every interpst of the country. True, those enact* mentA altered, to some extent, the represen- t' ■ a of the country, but the higbmindedness and honor of British statesmen called upon them to deliver a portion of their people from injustice. Englishmen have ever been jealous of their rights, and so are we. After those measures had been passed the Parliament still :_.j. Si. .>«..1/1 k.»A *.A*\AAlAfl tKAm AnA restored matters to their old condition. This Confederation Act, on the contrary, takes from us the power of altering the iawa to.raiti our Province. Coming down to a later date we have had cited as a preoiedent the union of Cape Breton. Now we know that if a witness is put into the box he is considered guilty of perjury if he fails to tell the whole truth. The leader pf the Opposition, when be quoted that preAe- dent, should have told us fairly that Gape Breton had no Legislative Assembly. Again the union of the Canadas was effected after the rebellion there, and when commissioners were exercising military authority. Surely these instances bear no comparison to oar case : we were in peace and prosperity, legis- lating according to our constitution, with no sign of quarrel or rebellion. Precedents upon our side of the question have been cited in numbers, the case of the other colonies. New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island and New- foundland being proof of the way in which our people would have been treatsd if the Legislature bad acted fairly. I think, bow- ever, that the challenge to cite precedents came from the wrong quarter — precedents should come from those who seek to justify the charge that has been made. We asked no change, and those who urged it should be prepared with precedents to establish their authority for what they did. It is hard to find cases exactly in point, for in the history of no country possessing representative insti- tutions has there been such an attempt to sub- vert the constitution. Precedents which do not apply to the condition of affairs estab- lished when the principle of Resi)onsible Gov- ernment were conceded are not in point, be- cause the Imperial Goveniment> having granted us certain privileges, will not revoke them. It has bean clearly shewn that impor- tant measures have from time to time been submitted to the decision of the people at the polls, and surely that is the coarse which should have been followed in this instance. It may be considered out of place for me, » layman, to refer to any legal point, but I have found one reference which seems to me to be applicable to this question. In 1825 the Brit* ish Parliament passed an Act, chap. 114, con- taining a clause worded in such a way that it will not be denied that thereby some rights were conceded to us, and if that be the case the Union Act cannot be succeesfully defend- ed as constitutional. It has not inaptly been said that this Union Act was good for those who advocated it. Perhaps if we search all the records of history we cannot find a mea- sure which holds out so many rewards for its friends. The system of increased salaries and multiplication of ofBcea was one of the most objectionable features of the scheme, next to that which destroyed our powers of legisla- tion. I need not descant at great length on the loss which Nova Scotia will experience by the change,— wo lose oar pablio works of nearly every description, and althongb we go into the Confederation with nearly an equal debt, yet there is in point of fact no comparision between the debt of the Canadas and of Nova Scotia, for oars does not repre- sent a dollar of deficiency, while that of Can- ada resresAntfi twentj-two millions of revenue deficitT I will now briefly allude to the operation of thia Act sinoe the lit of Jaly. One of the mtia Mgnmenti of thoie who ropported h ^1 I / 1 ! 134 , I", trolled the former cffliU G?m„'^;!^ «?»" P.rltamenrw/1'^h' ''*?*°7 "^ thrSnTon «!■»..• u *«,»cehow inadequate that rnnrp eentatioD faa« been found Wp «* .t.! ' "Teg, even when aided by those of N«« Bruniw.ck, were powerlew to effect anv ohange when the membera from UoMr aSrf a^ir at' th*2'.'T''"'%^ •«*in.HberLoo"k^ again, at the policy of that Parliament Vo. fhe r.r.Hi?'7'? "^'J' ^« ""6 told thatfor fl?l mk'"'"'*^ *"^ themselves for our bene fit would be preposterous. One ereat ch«S^ termtio of our aovernment has^iwaS ho^n" eoonomy,-we incurred no debt beyond wht" wae necessary for our public works ami nre l^lf. ■ '»"■ «»niple of the benefit, of wEre wntam institutions; but the nolinv nf f hi Union Act is to create a l^rin .fn ^ °^ •''^ Gove™mexit.witre,?ra%iXep«S^T„' every branch of the I-ublio service Thp^r. g;«Utive Assembly of 'canida had more Jlerks' "? tK'ther T''"^"' "-^ •« on througt w^fe mad tth^StTa?if ReTa. ^^""^'' ra.lMy to New Brunswick. I will not detli^ the Hodse farther tiaa to men oS the hli« tee ?e^s^rgo?"al^d\ro!fr'?eSrw"e?: 1 take It that I need not bor the arcninent «d th«?nf °u',^°*'* " •« ^ built by ffiy •nd the trunk line would be far more arf«n ' U^TuV." » C^^P-y who wSuld unA; lore, that the road can be built as soon ^ ence used to defeat the »ati-Sde?ateVai5v' S" i"e »,f etty good gold. Tta fhett: Sle which the f^ienda of nniOa made t» ear?« we';Sr*eVo'; ^^oi^g^'oltvWr^*"''*"'^" iff,«d> hM^tu°li%'trt'fh£^fct'°.!« InmoMind r«4«n»th»t on tfe MBMiSiJpof DBBATES AND PROCEEDINGS B»me may be said of other oountiM Til it 18 that InvernPBH .«»,!.. ""'Y »Bk how the position fTfindth.^ ^«V^ ''"""P^ only^OO votes iu?°of 2000 4er ^'ill?." f*^ S;mio:i''°"* going inTo" &ijz 18 anti-confederate at KarThp^^^'"'*; fina ly that whatever decision may Jearr'vid ii^r.l *1:*^ ."Wradation. With th«te'V*i,'',L" OP THE HOUSE OF ASiElIBLY. 135 WsDKinsoAT, Ftby. 19. 1868. The Hon«e m^t kt 3 o'clock, p. m. MIBCELIANEOCB. Hop. Aiti. Qinkjral preientjd » V«^}}o^ fromanaaber of Indians of the Jraid ur L»ke, prasing for relief. . Hon Mr. RoBEKTSON, m chairman of the committee on the InverneBB election, ask^ci leave for the committee to adjourn to Mondiiy next at 11 o'clock. Leate granted. Mr NoETHDP presented a petition froui John Gooie and others for money to expend on a road. , ..^. - _ . Hon. Mr. Flthh presented a petition for a etant of money to build a bridge. _ Mr. No«THPp presented a petition from John White and others, of Musquodoboit, for a grant of money; also, a petition from Fres- ton in reference to the school law. The latter was referred to the Committee on Education. Mr White presented a petition against any material alteration of the Bohool law. Mr. KiDsTON presented a number of peti- tions for grants of money on roads ana 'Mr^YoDNG presented a petition in refer- ence to the ferry between Windsor and Hants- ^^Mr MoBBisoN presented a petition from Geo. Leister and others for money ^o ,^uild a bridge over Salmon River; also, a petition for a railway station at Salmon River Hon. Mr. Robertson laid on the table in« formation asked for in reference to the hos- pital for the Insane. ON THE KEPEAI MOIiVTIONS. The adjourned debate was resumed. ME. COPBLAND'S speech. Mr. CopKtAND said :-Mr. Speaker, with your permission I rise to ofter » few remarks upon the great question of Confederation, new before the House. But as the gentlemen around these benches have so fully and ably disouased the question already. I wiU not at this late period of th9 deb >te occupy much of ^Thavethe honor of being one of the repre- sentatives of the second most populous coun- ty in the Province, and if your take into con- Bideration its vast mineral resources. I believe the first county in the Province ^"d "^«J nresentine such a county I do pot thinn i weald be do^ng justice to myself or hose who sent ^e were I to give a silent vote, I desire therefore in a few words to express my hostility to the British North America Act, alBo to the fraud, deceit and treachery by which it was carried. I believe, sir, that such an Act as the Brit- ish North Ameiioa Act. affecting, as it does he intemt of the people .o ^.f e"*"y-««°5 an overturn of their const, ution-should have been referred to the people at the polls, and the parties who so systematically pre- vented the people from paasing on it. commit- ted a very grievous injury on the people of this Province, and perpetrated an »ct ^Jwh -ni fnr«ver hand their names down to_poB-; terity"as men who have wantouiy Ji»u.pi£a uS the rigUts and liberties of a free people, ffl I Sieve there was too much honesty and -tiieoffkirpUy in the British Parliwnmt to pass such an Act if they had not been de- ceived by the delegatee, and made to believe that the people of Nova Scotia were in favor But. sir, when an opportunity was at lut presented to the j«ople they arose In the ma- leity of their strength, and have deciareain » voice of thunder that they abhor the Brit- ieh North America Act— the fraud by which it was carried, and the treachery of the men who perpetrated the deed. ...... Nova Scotia is small in extent, but rich m resources; why, sir, just but gj"ce at her fiBheries, her vast mineral wealth, her gold, her iron, her coal, her shipping, her mer- cantile capabilities, and her near prox'mity to Europe; and I tLink, sir, that you wiU agree with me that Nova Scotia is the moBt important part of North America in propor- tion to its size. , . , Sir. I am a Nova Sootian, posseasing, 1 trust, all the feelings of a Briton. I am proud of my native country— proud of the mighty Empire of which we form a part, and loyal to my Queen and Sovereign. But, sir, I will never suimit willingly to have my rights and libeities swept away, and handed over to the tender mcrciea of the Canadians, to be nothing better than " hewerB of wood and drawers of water" for them. Sir. 1 feel that my countrymen poeiess the same feelings with regard to this matter, that I do myself, •nd that nothing but force and coercion will cause them to submit to the U. Si. A. Act, and that they will embrace the very first opportunity of getting free from it. 1 sbail therefore most heartily give my vote for the resolutions submitted by the Hon. Attorney General, knowing that in doing so, I »ni not only fulfilling the desires of my own constitu* ents, but expreesing the views of the people of the whole Province; and with a firm be- lief that the British Parliament will, on the facts being made known to them, grant the people of Nova Sootia what they desire, and without which nothing else will satisfy them, that is a repeal of the B. N. A. Act, in so far as it refers to Nova Scotia. ME. white's SPBKCH. Mr White said— So much has been ad- vanced on this question that it is with the greatest embarrassment that I nee to address the House. To give a silent vote on tua re- solutions, however, would not be congenial to my feelings or consistent with the duty i owe the people of the important county who have honored me with the trust I have un- dertaken. Not only has a great deal been said on this Bubjeot, but much has been so ably said that my embarrassment arises not BO much from what I should say as from what 1 should leave unsaid. Promising not to occupy the timf^ of the House at any length. I will advert to one or two matters which occupy my mind in connection with the history of Confederation. We all know something of the history of Canada, and a glance at that history shows that she has ?. i.v.«..:>>ra nTidsr serious lilgadvantagei fOT^thitty years past— disadvantages partly entailed by her system of repreaentation, I 136 Whtoh wu Mttblished with the trutv nf p»oe which followed the rcbelUon That Sti^rr"'^. ""'^^e been aoMd^"' to by Upper C«n»d» uulew the represenution had cTS^T'^- ^"^''^'"g toherwi,henower ma% thi Vr.^! l^A-T*' «P««en«tion wae ma-e :&e bMia of tne iretty. This e»Ye riu, ii^ we iw :: ".counter. Not Tery long «h?„m ?Tu* <^'»»"nnient formed there which Ue ed but two or three dtya, owineto &ouhv p?f' *."? ""^ representation' "fhu mE ^*K ^>^ '*° ooDoeptioa of the present "ypoDLution*"?* •' 7^'"^!' representation pllfSnTZ aiiVan eye Tit ^;""^'" };?^if«ir main objeorwTtJVtS drth^r Jitical diftcultiee which their evBtem of r» presentation entailed. Thii may hav^mfw«l Canadian policy, but in common wi^h thS I^ain^tTtSl' T '° 1?'' debatll pro'e Twas BtrLk lit K t^°'* ®°°''* '" "oncerncd. mrmhpr fnl r '•" ^^^ "S^ment of the hon. member for InTerncsB the other day. when m Bupport of the constitutionality of the L.i'A'^;.^t '1?*"°^** '^^ «P«al of the Corn in Salan?" J -nancip.tion of the CafhS bers of thl ri^v "■???" ^"°'" tl"*' tl^e mem ners of the Bruish Houie of Commons Vp oeived mitructions time and aga°n°nthP«fi ?h"oH«p'^'°'" their conatitufns The cl' ^oI'k ^'^"o'P»«on Act, it must also be re- membered, only extended the privileee. of i hi?"'''' ^'J' ^'<* °"' ""'""t them Kimed !» tK «" *' ^''•? prejudices of the age, buS at the conetitution itself. It did no transfer Britain 'I" T^'^'^y '^"^ revenues of Greal Britain, nor did it extinguish the Lord. *«,[ Commons and that instance is therefore nol at all analagous. The mode of passing r** trust myself to dwell n«^"*^ '--^^^^^ thn.a Jk^ u "wen upou the conduct of sSmmaTin^ fh^-t ''"° i"trumental in con. SuKI °thaHhLi"*'""? ,«f Confederation, oumce It that these records (Debates of Hrtn.« Willi. ».. f . "^ to the address to GenI i»y.n, to a, Q«" a LuXffe™ dl io "' Whin"?' J' !?«esTtreff;ot: andshiTufd uoBO. When introduced to mvonnntw it ms sneakingly taken around^ Vnd ^le OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. m i«t in 1866 he tny ohange oo- oontend that Id hkTe mate- e delivered a ezplainin* his I to the (juebeo frlendi, and a* I le, I need not rj- l>at I lupport the WM not influen- f any desire for held office, and r the general or 'some gentlemen etrictly conform fy the oonrie 1 isaion lait year aperating in my as to whether I the flrgt place I rpiolons of the re favourable to fans ofthevarl ewlBe favorable, the support of id.— Everywhere of the Imperial ummated; then e abrogation of , when our own tie moment bad r of his country conclusion that order that we irgencies which ositlon my sup- that the Quebec d in lajiing IT. Bourinot I soon as he for him in B»ying that t patriotigna Patriot is Sir, if this 8 should re- rm or com- ) convey to devotion to 3in scarcely conduct of tal in con* afederation. ei of House d vith the the people ings. insistencies 3 a subject ' those who iis to Genl. he purpose »1«. I W»8 >f that ad' organs; it pressior Govern- leople tucc I favor of carry out I we reflect :5S obtaia- iUd should county, it nd people were asked to sign it hurriedly, and did so, being told that it was merdy an addreis of lovaliy to the Queen, and had no pohlical significance. Many who algned it were asto- nish^ to find afterwards tSat it oontamed a clause desipned to make Confederation ap- pear poj^lar. If in other . count- estbatcd* dress waa signed as it was in Cape Breton. I deny that it was any compliment to General Williarae. lU being signed in that county was not. I must repeat, intended as snexpres- 5on of agreement with the policy of those who carried Confederation. In oenolusion. 1 may Bay, Mr. Speaker, that I have an abiding STthm the ge^rosityof the British Parlia- ment, and believe that, without doubt, this Seal will be granted. The attention of the Britiih people has been so much turned, with- in a year or two. to the condition of Ireland, that the Imperial Government will hesitate, i feel certain, before refusing an applioatinn like this. I. tor one, am content to await tue riultrMy : remarks. I fear .f , have b^n somewhat desultory and void of thut elo- Quenoe which characterised a d- >at8 on a simUar subject in England some^i j*rs ago, but, sir, however weak I may be m reproba- tinK thia thing and its promoter^ my weak- nen may be to some extent compensated for, by my ainoerity in the cause of Repeal. MB. BIJkJlOBAKD'S SPEECH. Mr. Blahchaed said :-It was understood, Mr Speaker, that this afternoon should be devoted to giving me an opportunity to re- view the numerous speeches made on the suD- ieot under debate, and I feel that it never has been, and I trust it never will be again, the lot of any man in Nova Scotia to be placed in my poaitittn. However indifferently I may be able to discharge the duties which devolve upon me, and however small may be the abi- litiei which I can bring to bear yet I feel that it is well that there " aome little differ- ence of aentiment here. If it were otherwise the employment of the House would be short, and little or no interest would centre in tme debate. I find myself now called upon to re- ply to about twenty-nine speeches, delivered by gentlemen on the government side of the louse. It was said last evening that some of those gentlemen should have the reply, because I might take the whole twenty-nine ai^ lacerate them, but I haye no idea of doing anything of the kind. On the contra- ry, r wiU say that such an array of eloquence and talent as has delighted the House for more tL .n » week never occurred in s Pro- vinoUl legislature beto"- ,.We . J>»^« "f*" ooming to the fore and delivering lengthy addresses men who, one would have snppo* sed, would hardly have occupied m much time as the last speaker. Talk of U^ye". sir, they oar.not compare with some ot tne farmers and merchants who have been ad - dressing us. Some gentlemen whb, before the labt election, had hardly ever m»d6 a speech except in a village debating olub. have delighted the House for two mortal hours at a stretch, with language, it is true, that is somewhat uuuBUii. C5i "*'''^_i-;^=; ; rtoqueBoe! l and wisdprtil ! ! Such as I must ooi^Wktulato the country on^osoessiBg. Talk of the talent of the Honie being UtM^ ed since the Union Act came into force! Why if we measure the talent of >on. genttwnett by the number or their word-, and Ihtlr abi- lity by the force of their language, nothing to be compared with this debate has ever oo- ourred before. I sat here in the days when we thought we had intellectual giants aftioag us— when Mr. Johnston on the one side led an array of taitut that was of no ordlns»!r character, and when Mr. Howe and Mr. Young, on the other side, were sostaiBftd by a fair share of talent Mid ability; b«t all t"^ \ debates of those days were as nothing whep compared with these twenty-nine speeches alt in a row, suggesting to the memory the nursery rhyme about some other things ip • row. I intend to go into the subjeet wita good temper, because whenever I have, on other occasions, ventured to indulge in j little retort, by way of satire, on genUemej who had attacked me. I got a drewrtng snoh as no ordinary man would submit to, but I promise two or three gontlemen that before I am done I will return the compliment. If I should omit to refer particularly to "/««=• tleman. I trust he will pardon, and take to himself the remarks I make to his "«■«• . In the first place, however, I wish *<» »«• a broad view of some of the feature of th« debate. We had a good.deal of constitutloi. al argument, and I regret that whenl closes my first speech the Attorney Oenw*! was not allowed then and there, as he wished to do, to reply to my remarks upon that head, tat that would have given me an opportunltyoj commenting upon his observations. 1 «« that it will be manifest that m the oo«se pf his argument he either misrepresented th« issues of the question or he was not awarvot the facts. We were told that this country had a charter— an inviolate charter, but i ask the Attorney General to meet the argu- ment which I aavanced : that if suoha ohar- ter were given by George II. "hs* been vio- lated over and over again until there it not a ray of it left— violated in every oonoeivaWe mannei— torn into ribbons ten thousand times I will gite book and page in proof of my assertion : id Murdoch's History, vol. 2 page 332, it is recorded that by PJooUma- tiom George III., with the advice of huPrivy CoSicil. iSnex,^ the.Islands of Pnnce B^ ward and Cape Breton to Nova S«otia. Agato vre find the Governor and Counoll.of this Fr9- vince altering the representation m the legis- lature and the franchise. WhatlweaiMOf the immaculate charter then 7 In "WPriiiee Edward Island was made a separmte Pro^ by the act of the King and Counoil-the sane power separating the I»l»nd Which tad annexed. But going down to 1784, what do w" find the conlitioS of the country to hw. bwn? Nova Saotia, New Brunswick. Prince Edward Island and Cape Breion Were one country, under one Government »nd Leg»»- ?u« li 1784 New BrUnswick was out off from Nova Scotia by the Act of the jOrovrta. In 1784 Cape Breton also wm njade separtte, in 1820 that Islaad was restored to this Pro* v°nS When I addreised the Houeebefcr*. I r^^«^sr th" itnnreision that Cape Breton was annexed Vy Act of Parliamenn, du- «u omful examination I find IirMjatttftMH, vJiUsi o ■> ir 1'^ '■I 13.8 ^MJlMiUoii wueff«ot«d by order of tb« Ktog.i** Council; that, however, do«. not aStot the armament. Where, tljen. wM the obarter that could not be broken T I? waS gjO-Ulwd by the Attorney General thi The King f.Dd Council could not touch the char tar- hat u wae irrerocab e and iaus^ foMTer raoain aoj and yet in 1820 th" Kinrand CoanoU annexed Cape Breton by the"? oSn of 1844, and he will find there tbtt a eDeflUl NMion or thia Houw iSok plaoe in tht Kth M'"*';.?'''r*, »'»•. "hole matter of the annex- aiion of the lalaad waa brought up by ord«e who w|«M delegates to be sent home to mMt the repraeeptatatiTee of Cape Breton When they w«jt,before the Privy fconnoU i^tu pweona aaldng /or repeal, and nreine the ^JSV^^'^fK^^^y "^.'^^ ^^'^ on The^eaSe groHiKlB as thoae taken in this debate If th»re is any strength in the argument now «.'-«f*' ''""' the system of Government DIBATIS AND PROCEEDlKOi Mopli --;•-#. "..««-» Mio voice or to< f;::^"-V ''*'S"P"^"*"J«" being heard. ?„r^s'.?°*'ft°1"'*'' Assembly or*Leg5l»: tare that oould be appealed to. WeTiave haar4* good deal about the strong feeling SS!rSi'!?ii^'^"*iy *'«''•'»»' I have been often told by men whoVere well acquainted Withithajtale of the Island in 1820 that the feeliog.than was infinitely stronger. I ooo i^Ung was subscribed by a email population En^^Thf '^S*^^" fS."^ "'S'ge councils England. The Privy Council then desired *^iILfl*'5 *"*'•**? "'""^ *" *S«ot before theS --no.t tQ discuss the propriety or judioiousneis of«nnex»ng Cape Breton to NovaSooHa ba (^Ssathat branch of the argument wm ex- »»e«tjr excluded, but to discuss the comiUu- mnmtjt q/ the 4ct. . Our Legislature de. J»W.W send agents, yet the question was ,rt%J*oiately discussed before that tri anah" ^v^-^ '°'«2"'y the ppblis had the most io? tthnJ'"' ••'^ '''^'° *^^ doors ffie breath of suspioi^n never entered. Did the *«vyX^unoi decide th,it the union wasun- Zli^^^'^^k *^^ "P«»l *heir decree T N6 ; but they spnt back something like this mee Jftg^to the peopU of Cape*Brefoh- "^Si Ujre bep*,uaued by the Aii of the King and .fc(uii«U^«nd^ united you must wmain '' >JJwttd.^it the truth of ihe pro iK .tion, that as the country progregees ind %U Savernmeat beiiomes a,4e liberal aaS «W*tic. the legis^tute should be con- ■ 9»U^^ wlueote of «»« kind, but I lannot n«i9d!«rat»Bd the alluslwn whwii some Se ge»J»ait, j?«i« to de|ae?SS5.Krtf& •pokroof. as though t^ey conteiJlLced £ •ppeal to the people. As I said bdbrt it !• a doctrine uninown to the British oontituUoB that we must go beyond the reprsMBtativM °V5« P'fP • "? Ko to the peopfeTeiSS for the declaration of their will. However British, it IS American in its inception and history; ,t never formed apart of our con- ititutlon. and I trust it never will. I come now to refer to the obnervations made by Ta- rious members in this debate, and I muit ttHnf^'iu' H**"" "IP*°' '«■" those who con stitute this House, that if they could but di- vest their minds of the heat and prejudice which operate on them, they would see tU SPffPi-'e^y of much that has been Vald In i^A^^^^l^- . ^« '^ V« ^"J • So^ many hard rh/t'n'i"!?^1°"^y'" ♦•"« •Peeohes from J^2n?^ }^\H°:iyi'^^" ''°'" Londonderry ?$:Z'^}?^Y°J'^l^oa. member for Pictou {Ur. Copeland) who spokt th.'s afternoon. I a«^t^i?°'° the latter since I was a child, I H^nfT."'] *'*"*•*" * tnor« upright man NoVa Scotia does not contain, and when I heard him in his quiet voice use the words "fVaud deceit, and treachery," I felt that he bad not hL^^h!?. ''if >«nB!'««re- So stewotyM have those phrases become, thtt at laat it ■Mms imi)08sible to discuss this question without using them. I will endeayor not to retaliate for the strong language that ha. been need, but I cannot help eayinff that •uoh expressions are seldom employedln re- do feel that there are some who would hardly have ventured to use such language if those to whom they applied it were here^To whS did they apply t5ose words? I have under my hand a speech and pamphlet by h man &.:"'*? ••lot;^"». earn^ wd^etaTned ask the Conservatives of this HoSse^the men ,Tn t/'T " childhood biv0 been taught to look «?.i°^'^f°*"^-^''I'"t°°. " they are pw pared to apply the terms "traitor " 'and "treachery "to him? If that old gentle hk« ♦r.«^5''' *''*" »t his time of life, f would tliSl^K"!V""?".''ho would get op and inS^^.rV^"'*''' l^eitand tre^hery, And ^Atl'' *"°" ^? ^'*- I '" »»«« opposed to that hon. gmtleman. I know ^ *w to ad^ n^t 'r.V *?? Pft'iotism even in an oppo- L?i ; nVi*""!^ '■'''' '^ ■<» the Attorney Om- »go ae 18J54 Mr. Johnston made one of the finest speeches ever deli V. red on the€ooriTf raruament, and not content witb'thtft.«fter td i.^l'I*^* "P'^'' for general puMtea- t35S!S2''JL'w T'^ '°"* hehad«vet«t. lerea on the subject. ' •• ' »v) <:,!.„ 1 oWnot forbear readfog to the House bhe nr,2^° «ntettpes tfontaiufng so mdbh efo- Uon ?h!?T P*^°t"S ^'^^ 8? much iBstrio. Sk T* I ^^^' *'«^°« w« hear the l^brts Zmtl "/e^^J^to again repeated gentlemen will reflect«on whom they afe oastfirasSr. ■ions. In Cape Breton, when a HiAfa^er Sh*- t^ he ^s s.id^a»^ ..°l"'fe.-,= J*.have. had a good deal of naiia h5?„ *""'^*Pf?, *"■ ^Joientrlinidtee PJJW8 by rne as tie idle wind, w&ieb I i?^td not. mid b«A>rt it U t lti»h oontitatlM le repr«MBt«tiTM peopi« tfaemMlTM r will. HowcTer »y be it is not ti inoeption •■(! «rt of oar oon- er will. I oom« lont mide by va. ftte, and I muit f thOM who OOD ley ooald but di- kt and prejudiM f would aea tt» M b«en Mid in good many hard e tpeeohM from or Londonderry nber for Piotou ii?i afteracou. I [ was a child, I •right man Nora i wh«a I heard I words "fraud, that he bad aot So atereotyped thtt at laat it • thi* qoeation ndsaTor not to ;aage that baa lip sayinff that smployed in re- >r absent, and I would hardly igtiftge ifthoM here. To whom 1 haTe under hlet by h mM, d and retained B party,- lind I loufle'— thenten tstight to look they are pre 'traitor" and «t old gentle- 9oriife,IwoQld Id get op and nmiohery, And t lofig opPoaed m*ow to ad- n in an oppo- Attorney Oen- kitor. As long ie one of the n theflooriof itb that, irfter Robeme, trb«n sneral i^tiblkM- tehad«vef«t- ' '"'^-Ditniis be Horun obe 10 millpb )eIo- tnuoh icatrtio- ir the Wbtds ted gentiedien laetfnr aeper. » Highlaodfer tottee ♦♦■bud EObd a«al of nfibn. Init. as OF THE HOUSE OF AStffcMBLT. 139 Ib reference to Judge Jobniton'e opin«^« I will read first, not hi* utter»noee in 1854, but in 1865. He Mid on the on*, aand :— It OdIod and«r one government, gtving »o Brttlih MbleoU. In their oonfeder«te iod growinR •trcn(?ih, » MtU»/lty worthy of their origin, and » theatre of MtlODMeiiM ntttlon«l eipaniloo deraandij wnere, HknowiediiDS the .uT«*lguty, J»!als»nicg the ln«tr tnUoM, caltlTatIng and perpetuating the princlplef of the wwent Bute, and putting forth the energlee of rreemenTthey aud their deicendants may, nndw a KracloM Providence, have ihn cpportuolty of rising Ik d-irreea of ,miiin..! influence, mt'erlal pieipertty, IntellecMal and Uler.ry att.lomonU, religloui, eitaoa- Uenal and moral prugrese, and refteement of taito and m.nneri, which cannot be reached In eiBaU ud con- tracted communltict." On the other hand is :— "The perpetuation of tho preient Uoltted condition of the Province,— and rich a« ihe it In material bene- atf and r ;.)iperon» wlthfn the limits which small commun.l .-s may attain, ytt few In numbers weak In jlrength. unequal to the development cf her own re- sources, unable to (ornlih to her sons profeiilonal tduoatlon, or to retain at home her enterprising youth, she has little prospect for the future beyond a dwarfed emlstenoe and ultimate aUorpUon Into the neighboring RepuWh. •< One of these must be bosen— the other rejeoted. Ther* le no itber altf mative. My sentiments formed ?d through a quarter of a oen 1 for deliberation now. To an any decision is of tmall me- of the community. In the exer- ,ent on a question of vital later- uose who come after. I dare not /national existence, with Its privileges and to my degcendanis and my counUjmen- and pnbllciy adv tiiry, tea^'i me nr lild man, iadlvi i meat; bui as a a elsecf ny bestini est to all of us and deny duties • Ithtreforeaccept Confederation as a greft, ben- efit, wb itever my tendencies in favor of Legislative Union, and though they were greater and more fixed than they are." Sir, ia that the language of a discontented politician T Is it the language of an am- bitipuB man who wftntad to get into a larger arena T No, but it is the langusge of a man of a ripe old age, removed beyond all politi- cal relations, and ornamenting the Judiciary In a Tery high degree. Does it become some men whom f could name to talk about trait- ors and treachery, and to stigmatize so strongly as they have done the friends or Union, and among them a man like that ? Now, let us consider when this discussion of Union commenced. Its origin was not m 1863 or 1864, or ia the days when Mr. Howe brought it forward, but sway back in 1814, long before Cape Breton was annexed,— and we then find that the late Chief Justice Sewell and the Duke of Kent took a decided interest in the question. From then until no^ the great minds of the country directed their at- tention to it. I have under my hand a letter on the subject, written by the Duke of Kent in which he speaks strongly in favor of the project. But pauing over many beautiful and eloquent passages in the speech delivered by Mr. Johnston in 1854, let me read to you his concluding remarks. He said :— '•IcanP';'; conclude, Mr. Chairman, withcut acknow- ledging how far short I feel I have fallen of the capa- clty of the sub)eofc-I wUl not say of lU requirements, for the measure I have advocated needs little of argu^ ment or of eloquence. The principle on which it rests Is so simple— so truthful— go practical— so ac- knowledged— that argument and elociuence seem su- Derflnoaa. _ "UHJOH IS biRSHOTH— reason. puiiosopUy^Mia ex- perience declare, Illustrate and confirm the truth. Relljlcn and olvlliMtlon demand IbJ aid. "ItaphoMsthe sovereignty which God hM ^m to man over creation, and Is the basis on '''>'<>h rests aU the agencies for fuiaillng the Creator's "Iw «»•.'•< it- »m6j!or«llon of ou' race. Supported on this prld- clple the question seems no longer open to debate, sj soonaslh^praetleabimyof tJuloa Isafflrmed. An« v«t th« subject affnrds ample s«epe for raasonlcg »J most rigid •ndekc,nenw^a»ost«»<#>n(i' flfWr nn« mument the mind U embarrassed to A»4 t*>M »- Jeotlons to oppose— at ano»her, oppreis'l bjr«?»oaqn*^ dltBoi. It to utter. , . ,., ..; ,_^m_ •' I trust and believe my deflofeboUS will y jf>*'»* the more perfect and ablll b^ content with that, because, as far as Mr. HoWe is concemed,the subject haibeoomehackiJey«d and tasteless. In 1857, after losing the oon- trol of the government. Mr. Howe said in jf«- ferenoe to the Union of the Colonies : " If there was one questior unsettled when I left the administration., in the discuasioi' «f whwb I desired to mlnglo, it wat that (Union of the Colonies). When the hon. gentleman (Mr. Johnston) moved his resolution in 1854. 1 lent him ail the aid in my power, and if it were debated again gladly would I autit him." Now, sir, I ask thu House, and espe- cially the liberals who have been aocnstomed to look up to Mr. Howe, If it becomes them to talk about traitorB and treason when Mr. Hnts-fi aaid that thls wsB alfflost the Only question which ho bad been unable to settle Now I Mk Bome of these gentlemen, and loiii liO DEBATIJI AND PROCBIDINGS I of the people ouUide, who htfe been tklkinc SK^!?* **''•«'*''•« «"»'"• tl*** every 00° •titotion»l mtiidkte of Her Majetty her loyal T!ir!W »tt*J«c<." Nor.mldonTwhen I ihew the Home that the Equity Jadge and Mr. Howe are men to whom the terme that *»ve been ased were applied 7 Standing as I ' uiw^ifli' ffl^^S"*'"* ' '»«*' gentlemen «l^S? V *' l^*^ forgotten the rights of the K -Ijf" tempted to tarn back and tell SSSnT?" '"•'",^.** *?" ""'s time hare for- Ihifh.i^'ilf "*''*''• ^* eentlemen consider whether they are prepared to apply these epuheta to the Judges of this eoMntrs iS- djng oyer the Supremp Court. If they are not they should remember that they hare T 5*1'3 '° 'PPJy'ng t'jem to others. If, sir, mn.?Sl« l"' '"t**"" oo^n'ry, as I stand all most alone here. I would still, I think, have enough manly feeling not to be put down! .«.;ti°>* ° u';®.."*' ,*° S'^e expression to the •entlmcnts which animate my breast. That r^lV^t: 't ?"* *^« "»«'• ,.The opprobioue terms which have been applied »o the advo. Ifl V *. X *e»8ure, are not applied to me •lone, but to men who are great'y my sune- mrs: to the Judges, tr, Mr. Howe, to the B»en wao preside over the various churches of the Province, to the overwhelming majori- ty of the profession with which I Sm con- nected, to men of every class in the country Who ought to know, as well as the farmers '* f"« heard so much of, what is for the good of the country. There are one or two questions of which I W' 1 to speak before going into a reply of t' various gentlemen who have addressed ti House. We hav j had recently placed be» Tore tbe country a comparative statement of " the amounts of duties received under thr pre- ceding and existing tariff by a gentleman of no ordinary ability When some gentlemen get up and talk flippantly about the figures, as irthe officer who published the statement Anew nothing about them, 1 would ask them to pause. One gentleman said that Mr. John* •on bad made a mistake in every entry, but he did not stay to refleot—perhaps he did not know, that in April 1866 the duties were iwely altered. Wo had one set of duties to April and another to September, and which !?i ^S'!-^'/. Johnson to take 7 If he took the d dutie^lit would not be a fair statement at •11, for hw object was to show how much more ^itQ*i^ u *'"'*"®^ ^"^'"' ■•»« Dominion tariff iB|l8t}7 than would have been collected under the tariff as It was ou the 1st July. 1867. Ihat IS the answer to the array of figures prs- sented by thehon. member for KinRs. iiven •oother gentleman, who took the troublj to publish a full statement in the paper this niorning, has not ventured to adopt this view of the subject, but I would ask whether U ""." «*"»„""der (ho circumstances, for the Ffovincial Secretary to bring down what is the same statement to all intents and pi-.,, poses, ».nd rj publish it only a few hours be- fore I wu called upon to reply 7 Why did he not take the hon. member for Eiaes and «'AK«,^Jf* '''^^^ ♦"'^^ The statement of the latter gentleman was altogether fallk- oious, inasmuch as he took the duties pre- ceding April, while Mr. Johnson took the subsequent tariff Agrn. that gentleman and those who have addressed the publio through the newspapers, have entirely ie. nored one branch of the subject. Mr. John- son calculated that there would be a change m the trade of the country in couiequenoe of a large amount of goods imported from Ca- nada free. Mr. Jones and Mr. Dickie entire- ly Ignored this fact. Let me turn attention to some of the articles to which this remark applies. Mr. Johnson has deducted $l600ft lor arms and ammunition, and why 7 Be cause there is a manufactory in Canada where they can be obtained as cheaply as they can ba itr ported. Bacon and hams are also omitted, because Canada will give us as large and cheap & supply as ean be ob- tained from the United States. So as to other articles of produce. Why, I ask, i^as this view of the case ignored 7 Why is it that no gentleman has considered the large quantitv tKii'^ •^°°'''' '»'f'»".to Paying duty, but which will now come in free 7 Among those fi^i'K '*=~^"."'^ ^''^ ^** ''°'"". materials for hoop skirts, machine silk twist, prunella, eilk twist for hats, boots and shois. candle *!.°^fiwr P'*'**.' i"^"""" """ "d fancy. &0.SA11 these article paid ten per cent before antJ are free now, and yet these gentlemen :n their oalculations insert thousands of dollars which should have been omitted. Thev have put down a Urge sum for India rubber manufactures, but who does not know that Canada can supply them as cheap, and in- abroad ''• *^" ^^^^ °" '""**^ ^">°» t»^o^?7°^^ *u-°^' printing paper, about the taxation of which a great deal of complaint has bean made. I have taken the trouble to enquire about that matter, and what is the fact? For the last five or six year? printinff paper has been so high that it could not b! imported from the United States, and the pub- lishers have been obliged to iuport from come so high there that a mineral substance Ll f ° T^ for adulteration, which has been found most injurious to the type. At hiV'f "^l*"*' ^ un^Jertake to say on good au- thority that an article infinitely s'lperior can ^sJ°^ /;°" ^''»»**' f«« of dut " more cheaply than paper can be got from Great Britain. ar.d at this moment there is an agent of one establishment here endeavorin"- to ne- gociate for a supply. I will not. li^wever dWell on this subject by going over tha var lous articles to which similar Remarks apply. I have made no calculation and do not intend to make one, but I desire the country to look a the various statements put forth, and tS give them a fair examination. There are a hundred men n the Province more competent change of importation is borne in mind. Passing to Mother topic, ithftb been declared in the amendment which I submitted, that in the present condition of .hid country it vould have been neueisary to increase the taxes to or THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 141 for Kings ftnd The itatement altogether falla- the dutiea pre- hnion took the that gentleman wed the publio ave entirely ig« sot. Mr. John* lid be a change coQiequenoe of )orted from C»- r. Dickie entire- turn attention !h this remark leduoted $6000> ^nd why? Be- )ry in Canada as cheaply as and hams are » will give U8 as ean l>e ob- So as to other uk, w'aB this by ia it that no large quantity ing duty, but Among those lies, materials wist, prunella, shoes, candle •8 and fancy, )e? cent before, i gentlemen - ndnot dollaio mitted. They India rubber ot know that heap, and in- i be had from >er, about the of complaint the trouble to id what is the ?eary printing t could not be , arid the pub- itjport from has now be- iral substance I, which has the type. At on good »u- anperior can ' dutj', more from Great !e is an agent Toring to ne- ot, however, )ver tha var- narks apply, io not intend mtry to look brth, and to There are a re competent 1^, of us, and 3 Rt if ike se in mind. )tcn declared itted. that in try it would the taxes to disflhaige the publio services without Confed- eration, and 1 now ask members to look at E mitter. I will not male an elaborate calculation, but I ask the House to consider the facts set out in the resolution : that while our debt two or three years ago was but /our or fi*e millions, it now amounts to eight and a half millions, and, according to some, nine millions. Ifitb.afaet that we were about having to provide interest on our additional debt of BO large an amount, I ask where was the money to lome from ? $'240,000 was the smallest sum which must have been provided arnually after the Ist of July for that pur- nose. Will any man tell us that we were able to take that sum from our annual revenue, and still provide as we had been doing for our roads and bridges and other services? It was impossible. "But," says the hon. meni bor for Kings, "we had been growing at such » rata for the last ten years that if our pro- Erees were the same wo oouU have met these liabilities." It is easy to look back and easy orophesy, but if he had looked more care- fallv and cone to the proper authorities he would have found thfc fact standing out pa- tent that the revenues ot l«8t year down to thexresent time were $130,000 less than at the corresponding period of the previous vear This st a, added to the amount of m- ferest which I stated, makes $370,000 to be provided for. And yet we are told that be- fore Confederation Nova Scotia was a happy country, and could carry on her public works without increasing the taxation. 1 could not help feeling amused at hearing one gentleman talk about Nova Scotia being economical, and keeping within her income When we doubled our debt within five or six years, surely we. should not talk about keeping within our income. I under- take to say at any rata that our debt is dou- ble what it was eight years ago, and yet it is said that Canada is a mfst extravagant country, while Nova Scotia is. a tight little pUce fhat manages its affairs differently. When! said $130,000 was the deficiency. I should have given the oxaetfi&ures which are $127,373,27 to Ist September last. Before going into a reply to the speeches of the hon. member let me ask one or two ouestions. The resolutions laid on the table state boldly that our revenues are in such a condition that we are unable to meet the So requirements. Yet what did we hear stated the other day?^ That the accounts were in such a state of confusion that the Government, acknowledging themselves m competent for the task of arranging thein. were obliged to call in the assistance of three gentlemen from outside. Those accountants were put to work three or four months ago. rndlMkwhyitis that, though the House hac been three weeks in session, although the country has been looking for alarming dlrolosures about peculations on the part of Vhe late Government, at this moment we are jtiU without the result of their mvestiga- :,"_- t -^ r.«.v>ia to ftcnount for it; per- hacs' the Government can.-but these Com- mlssioners should at least have given a pre- liminarv rcDort. A committee of this House irap/oinfed some time since to investigate the publio aooounts, but they have not held one meeting up to this hoar. If the state- ments made by the Government be true, why has not the proof been laid before us eitbsr by the report of the accountants or the report cf our own committee? I can imagine a reason— it may be that when the report comes TIP it will be found that we have money OTou^h » S to spare. If this be not the case why are delegates to be sent home to say to the British Qovernmcint that this country is not in » condition to carry on its pablio works at a time when we have no report from the Commissioners or from the Committee of this House? If the statement be true, it is within the power of the Government to prove it If the accountants have not been able to exercise due diligence in their work who has been hindering them ? Is the Government doing so? Have these f«ntlemen been sup- plied with the informati a necessary to the completion of the work? No, sir; to my knowledge information has not been applied for at the very quarters where it could bo derived, and therefore the Government are not in a position to say what is the condition of our finances. When they put into the mouths of members, for the purpose of send- ing it to England, the statement that we are not able to carry on the public affairs, why did they not lay the proof on the table? I come now to my reply to hon. members, and I find that the first gentleman who la- vored me with his notice was my hon. friend from Londonderry, who gave uthts views! of the constitutional law bearing on the subj ieot This is not the fir»t occasion on which I have heard of the hon. member's eonstitu tional law; he seemed to think once upon a time that no one but himself was a m»tch for Mr Johnston— no one would so readily ap- proach the lion in his den, and catch him by the beard, as he. He told us once that ho could make a better collection of Revised Statutes in a week than all the rest of us put together. How often have we listened in times gone by to the constitutional law which I "the member for Colchester," proclaimed to the country. He used to say, in substance. «• do not take your law from Johnston or Young; I, the great man from Colchester, Will tell you what the law is. and le*. no one dare dispute it." In that strain he used to address the House, and now, coming down from greater gume, he has turned his artillery upon me, and has told the people that I kcew nothing about constitutional law. and that I had a great deal of audacity to talk of it in his presence. He asks us to consider the precedents set in New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island, where an appeal was made to the electors. I did not say that there was to be no appeal to the people when the government could not carry on the affairs, but I said that when the government could carry its measures through the legislature, no man had ever heard of a «8Solutlon being required. That was the state of affairs in New Brunswick when the question was mooted; the government dis- native bat to appeal to the people in order to settle the question. But was there an appeal on this question in Prince Edwwd --and? Not at all; they had their '^eouon there at 142 /• . Th*. hST' JiT' "^'^ "'^^ Newfoundland. llie^n. gentleman alio complained 'bftt in Bp«»kiDg of some one who had aaked th« queBtion " what tben ?■' I was t!^vi^ . i^r^.ravr .^^' /;tr eS" to that question be giwi " m5*L ""Ka BoonaB, and to every nan whom it inteS m the country : If repeal ia applied for and .refuied.whatthea? I will not repeat what I heard an ex-member of this LftsiBlJfnfl -ay in the lobby of the House thi.fSoon J .«'!f/To^If '^''""^'•ed within the pu": lu^ o^^J^ondon. he would be imprigoned within halfan hour; but when centl/m.n f„ prWatemake .uoh -..ertione. w^h? ilTK their answer to the question boldly ?"°fi'*'? ?T ^J"!^"^ '"^"^'^ •' '•'hat then ?" when I think of facing the electors of Inverness I have faced them three times already whh what result the. House knows; but I wu never forget the time when the hon member for Colchester wa, with us before, an^when ?oii'J'°" "^ '^^ '"' •^^o'O" «f H»t House' b»? »L°ffr^' *^°"" ^'^ ''''^ «"'» other gool: bye, and after four yetrs hard fighting the question was asked "who will come b^k?'- They thought there was no hope for me- never dreamed of seeing my face acain -Lt we all thought that thfre Joufd beSii doSb about the return of that hon. gentleman Situ resist that great constitutional lawyer ? I did come back, however, and I ask where was he? Left at home. I therefore tdl the hon. member, when he asks me how I shall face the electors of Inverness, thath^had better look after Colchester. When my con. JaZTJ'' ".°*.^"' ""' '^^y will Wd me good-bje, and dispense with my services th«%fe T?^" "*^ '""''« ^^n^' remark to the eUeot that any society of chimney sweena would kick from their company the Sn who voted for Confederation. Mr. MoEBisoN.— Hear hear. Mr. Blanchaed continued -—It would h« inore becoming to the hon. member to sav shame, shame, for such language was hardlv suitable to the dignity ot the House and to his own position. He also spoke of some people speaking of themselves as the almighty Thin^- t^^U'*" '^»l'°)ghty "I- withhL Things went wrong in Canada, he told us. because ••there was no Tom Morrison there '• S.M« I ^"'^n" *^'* Nova Scotia would never ««i«Ki° ^f"**'*" *°^' '" ii»itation of a celebrated orator, exclaimed "never ! never • hlll\ J I i'^«"^'>* tfaat that passage would have taken the House by storm, and that the country when it heard it would burst out in wild enthusiasm. Then he aaid that ,Mr '^oGee was an '^^extirpated" rebel .-that sur. m'mL'JTJ & ^^^J"^'} "'O'^m that Mr. DEBATES AND PBOCEEDINGi K!lw'*'^.v^''^ " existenPd. I would like to apeak with respect of every man, but when within the last few years? 0„ fs'lV??" of TemoeranBa H»ii „\r l "° *°® Plttform one Of fhe'fiTsailn' J tll't Te'v^hlS' of 't rau^'di-en'Jf r 'k'^* ^phollltfeitlon -!>k 1 *'i^'enoe enchained [for two hour. to do him honor? The Hon l!f.ll^iT*'°S SUSfn B:itiiKm%?iSiiU'e'nVl^ knocked down : he directed thnTYrll* . t*ke ram's horn, and make trimpesSth^'-" m?.hr"ThVn'th«"^^' r^ blorjhh an fe "^th ir voices \Wh/'™„ ^'^ "•»«"' »"h must have occurred . Joseph Howe, ioture to the ora» am with you;* Cupper joined in and enoourage- n like that— the i»— apoken of a* ough to make member for CoU rather strange- >u8and Yoioei I repeal !" That gnificent one it i members who sir bibles to re- 1 which Joshua oho were to be he Isrjalites to impetsofthem, » with all their to shout with Is were to fall Qovernment to thfc hon. mem- ;ate, and if the 'use repeal, to iial Secretary's > not fall as he rprised, I ad- leman; I only e such a one, nent will not er when they ' Perhaps it > take my ad- be down now, bear that the eaohed al! the speak thus of ?ood nature, dresses Us he 9 hon. mem- irho made a "i of ooursiB, ber unaoousn M thatgen- iLiiguage on tnd his not e Hon. Mr. V well, is it (1 ofbisbe- I said that 1 iupported scheme) — IS certainly ihatio sup- wonderful s opinions. *id, and of cs iiaid re- lieve, from rties from »re TTorth OP THE HOUSE OP AMEMBLY. 143 abonk u much as some that we have had cir- culated here. It wag said, we know, that hundreds of men of the first standing had forjaken us and joined the AntV-Confeclerate cause in Halifax, and yet we know that not a man of good position has left the ranks of the party. I assert that most emphatically, and should like to sea proof to the contraTy. I come next to the speech of the hon. member for Queen's, Mr, Smith, arid of him I can say that he has not provoked retaliation by insinuations of motives, or by the use of vio- lent language,— he will excuse me, however, if I say to him that I think the priaciples of constitutional law are utterly at variance with those he laid down. He spoke of the charter of George II., adopting the idea that that charter is inviolate and immaculate. I am old enouigh to ireoollwt when Reeponsible Government was introduced— when the twelve gentlemen who sat in the Council exercising execut'"? and legislative functions were, by an At proved of in England, required to vic*te jetr seats, and what was the argu- merit thetiT Mr Cogswell raised the cry of "the charter, the charter!" But the Par- liament and Government of England declined to say that the charter restrained the Legis- lature ft6m passing such an Act. , That was the great argumect, however, then,— the councillors said : " The King of Great Britain has by his charter appointed us, and no Act of your Pafllfcment can touch us." That WHth^ very same doctrine that we heard from the Attorney General the other day. Hon. Attt. Genkkal— The Councillors held office at will. . . ™,u * i,-= Mr. Blanohabb continued:— That makes no difference,— they were appointed by char- ter, and did their ebjeolions avail them ? No, they were swept off. the question of that charter WM disposed of pretty quickly, and a Legislfttive Council was appointed in their pl«*. But. says Mr. Smith, " here i8 an answer to all your black letter laws,— here is a oonfirmation by the Privy Council of the Queen's right to grant the mines and mine* rals of the Province." Who denied the right? True* for a time there was a doubt about the mitter, but the question was at length decided. Who denies that^the Sov- ereign could grant the unoccupied l»nds of this Province, but all this does not affect the question of the chwter in the smallest degree. The hon. gentleman told Us that Catholic Emanoip*tion did not pass agaihst the will of the people. It is the first: time that I have heard that assertion,— will inybody tell ^me that if the voice of the people of England had be«n takeu on the question there would not have been an overwhelmiiig majority to say "no"T It is to the evisrlasting credit of some of the beet Protestants of England that they earned the measure against the preju- dices of the majority of tUe people, and obliged the people to submit, Let me here contradict the asse. tion made by some one th»t thi» question and that of the Irish Union _..•-«.«•*» to the MrtJ>l«- The people of Iwliinti w<«e opposed'to the Union, but the Union Was effected through ths will of the ^S5SS»«*M told that PMfioe BdWaYd M- aad and Newfoundland have not been coerced into the Union? Why is that? B«»UM their Legislatures- the only true exponents of the wishes of the people— the only oon- stitut'onal and regular channel through which their wishes can be made known, did not agree to the scheme. With refer*ioe to the Legislative power which Great Britaia possesses over her Colonies, let me read from Blaokstone, vol. 1. page 101 :— " Whea the s^wrelgn Legiilataw sees it aeoMiary to extend it» care to any of Its »ubordlnatt domlnloni, and menttons them expresBiy by name, or iacludej them under general words, tUere can be no doubt ^ but then they are bound by iti taws." "^ That is the general doctrine, and as rogardt the prevailing practice, do we not, day after day, submit to laws passed just in the same way as that Which United the Provinces ? Whenever Parliament chooses to pass sach au act the people must submit, and there can be no appeal. Let tbis House and the country bear in mind the great distinction between the British and the American rule on this subject. In the Republic, if any one is dts- satisfied with a law whicll has been passed, he can bring it before the Judges of the bu- preme Court, and if it be unconstitutional the Judges will not ehforca it. Have wo any such rule undei? the British Constitution? No, the Judges o'f EngWnd are' a* much bound as the meanest subject in the realm by any law that Parliaipent may pw- Let me here read from Kent, a most celebrated writer on American law and the constitution of the Union, In vol. 1, page 504, he thus 8%y8 :— •• A ca«e in Pennsylvania has been recently decided involviag an important political principle- -the Court held that a statute authorizlnfr the citixens ef certain Counties to decide by ballot whether the gale of spirit U0U8 liquor* should be continued in s^id Oounties, VA8 »soos8"iTUTio»Ai, a* being a delegation otLe- uislative power net permitted by the ConnUtutlon, and contrary to tl}e theory of Government. So^tn New Ysrk an act ettablisbing Free Schools, which had been submitted by the Legislatura to the popuUr vote, was declared to be not a law," ■ «.<■'. Now we have a law exactly like that Ih Nova Sootia, at this moment : that if aoy^ polling district shoiild, by a mnjorl^y of m voters, declare that they do not desire licenws to be granted, the licenses caniiot be iMuea. and yet such an enactment in the United Statfis has been pronounced unconstitutional. That is the distinction between this country and the United States. There is with us no power that can interfere with or dispute the authority of the law as declared by ParUa. ment. The reverse is the case with the Uni- ted States, and yet some gentlemen seem to desire connection with that country. W»« know that a great cry has been raised about the members who sat here twc years ego, having forgotten their obligations to their ooBBtituents. Now upon that point let me read another extract from Blaokstone, page 15&:— " The system of members being bound to obey their oonatstuenta is spoiieo of by De TooqueyiUe M one that would, la the end, render all the guarantawof -.-;»,,.-t.>i..s linwDrnmen^.utelaii and vun." ■ t Upon the same point Smyth, in hil lecture on the Blench Revolution, said :— 'fftow aftiurd to hava a qubSHon dteidti. fcy the constituents at one end of a country, pnd afterwards I 144 i^ have to uy their Initructloni on the table." ^ ' ♦K f ?u*''^^*^!°S" -wo yean ago, and to siwiw K witK"?- *" '*' °''«°»'"« believed Jigtit, without Btriot regard to the Tiewa 0/ th« oonstitaenoicB. Listin to what Barki •aid upon that queition whi' .ddreMine hU Donstitaents at Briatol. He B^,d :- * formed to the inttructieng of truth and n»tnrp .^a DEBATSa AND PROCEEDINtfS a delegate and S! " «'eoted a representative and not s*»$ed" ^<*^'^<»n»ntthepou>er which theypgg. Ki-^?T?®'.*'»®" clootrinet, eo well esta- ■tyle the men who^oted for Confederation ir^St K.v'^^^' "":»«to"." beoau«?hey ?on.t,tn.^.t^» ^' *^f"* the wi«hea of their bS^n^h nf 11^ ^ ^''' °°°"' "ow t" "Other tl^at^^ ^\ "«»■"«»• The hon. member Jd ^^"f*'"" "^"«d to the large petitions got up, ar the instanoe of Dr. Tupper. for the duiolution of Parliament, and he quoted tha? f.rni?'"'K'"^."''« *« •»>ew that the Qo- ternor wa. bound t Heaolve the Houge when hoK-'V^ """ i'*^"P'« «»»«wed themselves ber forgot the answer that vas eiven to that fvT,*Vh"l^ «'Jf '^^' •"•'^^r nfore especial- ly for the benefit of the liberal members of »ifnJ??K"' '"°*"'"' ** ""•« "om the man wir.k5?'^MPP^" """°e »« "ow down and worship. Mr. Howe, in leadine the enw^ that the legislature was not to be iLfluenoed ?o^r wf/n?*''* «f P0P"1« opinion, andTal m,« if"'] *"" *^.t ^«ei»I»ture would cont" fK I *u. S°^"° *•»« country in the way t thotight proper~not as the delega es. buf as S.^h^;?tt"wio',: ffir; wsra^u're",;; S:',: "o^fPtthV dl.pl9a«id the.r cStnenr^e oalli would be frfquent-penonal independent woSd be rare, and question, would be dI,cu„edbJ^eoSrif . iir.i "f''»'nent were to be dliRolvcd whenever trSXTZo^^T' '."'*'.• "' • "'"conlented co«.l' Si dllSi llnV""''"''"'''' """"l become an «-f n'JI^-'f..* M.**°*'*'^"*" 0' Joseph Howe, pit qpon the Minutes of Council, and ban wishes of their oonstitt. its and 5n «« "" must thank him for the kindness with whroh he treated me and my oollpa^no ? • i. t could .oongratulatS Suhe members L'w^ >n« "V"*^, "O e'"»"ous and Mndid a snwV Sd^surX^^^^^^^^^^^^ exhfbrd.?«?f g?2t^"ii^virtS;'&u\"gV^ts*v^ •PPlied, and that 1 had wed^thrt °« ^ ^"* S^criVaiS^^^™ would be able to oo^Sct ^o'^^r' SbIS"iiS^ » man who -toodTn ho*? floors fnd'h":/" much contumely .ndcontemT heaped lo"^ him as have been heaped upon me K twJ^^r Js who ga"e us^l'oni V''"^' '•' ^'- ^h'S- •mH »K^^ J * '°.°S disoouree on the tariff us that his children had niif i-ff^ u?" ^?.tO'« couple of book, from ilifch^herea'd'-lfe heard of a good many clever ohiHrir "® cxceedingl/clever onL-wTo co^'^^S Dczzar, wno ate grass 1 ke an or » ' u- *„7j me that he and I itar'ed in l^fe together I did not feel much flittered »that?£oauiri was under the deleu.on that he had .Urted NoT»eoot,».-Bomeof his fri«d« gaye iSS OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 145 ewa on the 20th ft Bupper ptrty, at which his health wm pro- posed by Mr. Howe, who pwet 1 a high en- conium on him for his abilitieB, and for the position which he had acquired. Mr. Mur- doch, who was well known not to be a pub- lic speiker, got up and said: "Mr. Howe and I set out in life at the sftooe period but Tiith different objects, and we both obtained them,— he sought fame and he got it— I sought money ^"fl I have it." I know that I have not obtained very great fame, but I know that the hon. member for Colchester has obtained money. If the object of my de- sire is still glittering before me, that is not the case with him, and I congratulate him on his success. He talked, however, about the wild woods of Canada in such a way that would lead one to suppose that he had never been in Canada,— I can tell him that away up in those v-ildernesses they have cities con- taining four times the population of Halifax, and that he shouli?. remember, when tilking about our fine lolks of| Nova Scotia, IVho, like Robinson Crusoe are " monarohs of all they survey," that the waste, howling wilder- ness of Canada contains more than four times the population of Nova Scotia. The Chinese used to talk about " outside barbarians," and used lo think that •• these English were no* fit to associate with the great people of China," and so it is with some great people in Nova Scotia, who say to the Canadians, "oh, keep away from us you backwoods' people, we want our country for ourselves, and wish you would leavens alone in peace." It has been said that in my remarks in a pre- vious debate I attempted to atta"h a stigma upon the people of Colchester,— every mem- . ber of the House must know that nothing was farther from my thoughts,— I was try- ing to tmr into luaghtei and ridicule a re« mark made about the people shoulderin? their muskets in^the cause of repeal. Outside of the House it has been said that I insulted the people of Colchester,- 1 leave it to those who heard me to say whether that is true or The hon. member for Colchester, Mr. Chambers, found that his notes had got into confusion; "but," said he, "lam here to make the worst Of Confederation." Nothing could be more honest than that admission, and if all the gentlemen around me would make as clean a breast of it I could under- stand them bettor. The hon. gentleman ad» mits that he is not here to look at the matter in a fair light, but to roaka of it the very worst thathe can. He told us also that ho came here unpledged to the policy of repeal, and I rather think there are a good many .like him, for while I am free to admit that ine subject of Confederation was to a large ex- tent before the people at the elections, I deny mo co'^of ; and if BO, under what circamstances you made the ob- servation. Yours truly. (Signed) H. Bianchaed. «fL„ ' *^^.''^ ^^l^ language is used in reference to those whom I regpect, as long ns I draw the breath of life I will not suffer those Who use It to escape with impunity— they must take the consequence. The hon. mem-- her tor Victoria said thi\t the Canadian Gov- ernment, having reduced thi."! fio.Hr.tr" t- ''--• verge ot bankriTptcy, we Vnow'cail'ing o^n'us to pay their deficiencies. That is not the fact, and the hon. member should have known Geneeai Post OpncB. Halifax. Feb. ir 1868. .o£f*5 f"'~^ ,*'®e to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 15th instant, and to state that some few days ago ^p'; J"'""'\°»»«1 .»t my office, and l^g. ges ed some changes in the mail route between Plaister Cove and Baddeck and Mabou. Whycooomagh and Baddeok. After express^ l^fn ^' H °^ ""' ^""^ ^''^^^ on »he subject, I " .. w HY?y"" consulted Mr. Blanchard?" or "Would It not be beet to sneak to Mr. S° V* °V^" ?^»"er?" or'wordsto that eflect. I mentioned this, as you were one of the members of this county, and I consider- ed you should have a voice in such cases: at i„.*^*Ti ^^^""'^"^ ^<"^ one moment sup. posed Mr. Kidston would tring on the flooVs ot this House a conversation which I looked upon as altogether private, for the time being, as of course such mail alteration would have to be referred now to Ottawa. I am, yours respectfully, „„,,,„ A. WOODOATB. H. Blanchard, Esq., J\l. p. p. mi .. •J - «'*Biiiat iwo-thirds or the whole rides which he wished altered were in my county. The hon. member, I repeat, got up ana in the most open manner charged me OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 147 with controlling the mantgement of the Poit Offioe.when the PoatrntBter General had mere- ly referred to me became I was immediately interested in the Bubjeot. The post rides re- ferred to are Ihoie running through to Bad- deck and afifectiDg Mabou, Wyoocomagh and Plainer Cove, and 1 ask what right or busi- nets one of the members foi Victoria had to interfere and aik for a change in matters relating to my own county without consult- ing me T I should like to pay some atten- liou to the gentlemanly speech ofthehon. member for Queens, Mr. Freeman, but the abundant field for remark with which others h»Te furniehed me has left little time to de- l»y. But he made one remark which was very true and for which I thank him. He told US that in six years Canada had increased in population by 582,000 persons. Is this the wild howling wilderness that«we have heard of? Has this been going on in the baokwoodB about which the changes have been rung from one end of the country to the other ? In six years its increase has been larger than the whole population of Nova Sootia. This is the terrible country with which we are connected, and which is hang- ing like » millstone about our necks. I thank the hon. member for the illustration, and I feel that when he comes to reflect upon it he will Be3 that % very great deal of the contumely that has been heaped upon Cana- da is undeserved, because she is a great and growing country. In reference to the re- marks of the hon. member for Halifax. Mr. Cochran, concerning the feeling in the city, I will merely say that my observations were made in answer to some remarks about a great change having taken place in public opinion here, and about the return of five Anti-Confederate members being a proof that a large majority of this constituency T'ere unfavorable to union. I said that, as I was informed, the city had thrown a considerable majority in favor of Confederation— to that hii colleague asiented, but I did not say, and I should be sorry to say, that the whole wealth and intelligence of the metropolis were with us. I will say nothing of the in- fluences which he Bpoke of further than to remark that I have seen such assertions as he made here denied moat emphatically. I would be sorry to intimate that the hon. gen- tleman would say anything that he does not know to be true, but when he says that the Dominion authorities sent down a despatch telling the employees to vote for the Union candidates on pain of dismissal, I take leave to tell him that I wish the aBsertion to be proved. Mr. Tilley denied it in the most dear terms, and if the proof can be given, I take it for granted that it will be produced, but until then I take the liberty of denying the aisartion. I had nearly forgotten to notice the speech of the Provincial Secretary, who, contrary to the usage of members of Government, oi putting themselves in the forefront of the battle, waited until nearly all the ammuni- tion had been expended aud nearly all the guns had been fired off, and then came to the rescue by gi\ " to the House his version of the subject. He told as that he was once a Unionist. I am very lorry for hia perver- sion, and as some of his followers have held out th3 flag of truce to me, saying, "come with us, and wevrill do ihee good," I feel inclined to say the same to him, more cspe« cially as he should have been led by manly, British feeling to come to the aid of one who was being pitched into by some dozen of his opponents. The Provincial Secretary Baid that our harbors are open all the year round, while those of Canada are closed in winter, and that therefore our condition was not suitable for a Union. I can understand a gentleman living on the South Shore talking in that way, but if ho came with me to visit the ports on the Gulf of St. Lawrence— sonae of them the finest in this Province-he would find it hard to discover an open harbor in witter. Where, in the fine County of Pio- tou, is there an open harbor 7 Has Sydney an open harbor? Then going around by Wallace, Pugwash, Windsor and Hantsport, and the other ports on the Bay of Fundy, he would find the harbors all closed. Yet he says that the Union is unsuitable because our ports are open and those of Canada closed. We would do well enough, the Provincial Secretary thinks, united to New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island, and yet the ports of the Island are cloaed until May. As to New Brunswick, it is true that a considerable coast is open, but the moet flourishing parts are closed for six months. What, then, be- comes of his argument ? He told us also that the figures prepared by Mr. Johnston were calculated to deceive, and that we are to lose by Cobfederation $480,000 this year. I will not say that the figures of the Provincial Secretary were cal- culated for the purpose of deceptica, but how did he arrange them ? All that is due on the Provincial building was charged against next year, when he knows that that is a part of "the public debt. The building represents its v#hole cost; if the Dominion takes it the building will be set down at its cost, and the balance will be paid out of the Dominion treasury; and I ask then why, in- stead of that being credited, it was charged against our revenues ? I do not care whether you call it £40,900 or the building; if we hand it over to Canada we must get credit for it, and therefore I say that a great mis- take was made in charging the balance against next year's revenue. But what more? The Province has to provide two- thirds of the cost of a new Poors' Asylum; but by what jugglery can the Provincial Secretary charge the whole cost against next year's income ? The cost is to be scattered over several years, or will be merely interest- bearing debt. The next observation of the hon. gentleman was that the Quebec Scheme was better than the new arrangement, because it gave the Local Legiflatures the right to tax our ex* ports. I am thankful that the delegates had wisdom enough to take away that power, be- cause if there beany one duty more hurtful and detestable than another it is an export ■" ' ' 't, !2 tnifti has fi.!i ex» uuiy. . :„u port duty of one shilling per ton on timber, and we have a royalty of sixpence per ton on coal, but we should bo exceedingly glad that the poseibility of any increased tax U8 t 'H> i belDB iupoeed hM been removed. I would inflnjteJy prefer that » revenue .honld be tax than by an wport duty, and 1 am there- fore, I repeat, glad'^that the right wm tS t::y »'/*''« B"H«^ Parliament xSlt S waB not taken w th a view of eivinU tn Jk„ General Government the rTghJ t^o' m|o8e t Jl sU?nn^°*/° P''""^ difficulties from ning ?mSLi'^^''°'*""P'i'' '»>•* New Brunswick imposed an export duty of twenty per cent upon some articles produced only by her the result would be that the other Provinces would be taxed to that extent for the Zu- ilc?' We°l'.?/M^" ^°'.°"y °^ New B?u«: T.tiu * *"® *° *'« """^e one n effect, and yet that power would enable the Local Leeis- ind 've ^°hr!l ''^'"".i'y «nd inconvenieS, *Ws It n/^r"^-""^*' Secretary considers tbis one of the disadvantages of the new ^^fT- ^^' r^^''^ »'•• Tapper to me lam not bound to look at that gentleman as ver^ high authority, and when the honmembe? Howl'"' ?'• Tapper I will give h^Si Mr! 2f»ri:-"*^u"?y.»"'^°"ty wi'l be as good with him as his is with me. When Dr lun- per said that the House should have been dissolved in 1860. and Mr. Howe Said U Brint^n' ^'- ^"'^ ^"o righ' and the fr«nnH 1.?°''"'°'^?* '» decidld. He had Mm -1?."?k'°'° ^^"^ '"« c»P»ble of telling him what the constitutional law was. I was not a member of his Government at that o? byVi^nVr'' '"^ '"^''i'^ ^" never asked fcL K Tv'l' °.°^ ^" it ever tendered to him, but he had around him men who were competent to do their duties wdl The Prov. Secy, said that I had boastPfl having been brought up at the feet of Howe %li\T^' *.'?'* he and others assoctlted me with democratic principles. I renudiate tho r/w:in« t\'ir'' p^^y "^ S* couS thevr»H « £ ;^!°™ *"'* progress; but Ih!™ .. *u' "'"°'' *■'"« conservatism amo: tnem as the conservative party had. Some of the conservatives of this country jumDed we'Verl ^tl'fV''^ '"'''^' radic^ali. w^i e we were the true conservatives. While I d^hem^^'lZ""'?^"^ °^ l''^'"" ^^^ »dopti nftfcJJ®*!"^ "if^ that the conservation »Pr? « ^^*' °^'^^ ^'■°''° »n^ "b"*i" of the people I deny that tnjoto, in the sense in which the terms are applied. Who were the people of Great Britan before Catholic EmaStion was passed? The people who had oontro of the Government, and of every public office, and from whom alone the Sovereign coiild ?Sn°°'n' ^T *^ Protestants of Great "S;.?"*''^^.^^ *^««« *•>"« were no Tf?oWK •"'°°''''"'e *« the constitution, ihe tathohcs were not recognized as a part of BrS^'-K^"*/"? '^^P"'^* of the rights tho?^.'"''"i^J*°l^-. ^"^'e*'^' therefore, of lite" W°" ^'l°S an extension of the liberties of the people it was a curtailment of S r^'rh^?.*"^ ^l t'^'-owing in large additions of Catholics to the conetituencies. the powers of those who before had held the franchise were abridged. Some of those who engaged Pifl K f'!l*'' ""y ^l ^'««'' than BurkI and irlti. nut rhcao mnn An^^^^^A n.. nHnn?»i f^fP""^"', °? *^« constitution as adopted at the revolution. They carried the an immon?'* P*!'ii*jnent. however, in spite of an inuaense m^onty of the people, who were iHam*o;but why }it8 high for that 3g already r Thp be careful that the je, and he will find ) a barn Id Digby ffen very evanei- •me when even ha I by many of his what ig to be the Throne ! He ia lajeety'a Govetn- !■ on a correspon- lie tella theooun- the ProT, Secy., months, have the ell yon what will :et to the doora cf BBce, whether we walls with ram'B what the answer ack ^our consti- II be infused into ave an immense ^hat a beautiful is to take place ims. Nova Soo- ty as was never tr»de will be so lind a fifteen per retend, however, we were, oar < be raised, ch of the Prov. an I should like ited delay, but I le |hon. member I to him to say es under which g was interrupt- red by anything ut while advo- all earnestness, thers made, and tof place. He IS repeated by if England wa« lancipation and but that these !s of the people, se in which the B the people of I Emancipation had control of ' public office, XTereign could tants of Great 'here were no i constitution, ized as a part 3d of the rights therefore, of tension of the curtailment of large additions ies, the powers the franchise who engaged an Burke and Lie siiCssurB 10 institution as ey carried the rer, in spite of •pie, who were OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 149 never aiked to vote on the question at the oided the question by opening their doors and every office in the kingdom save one to the reSrat°n of cve.y houest Catholic subject. I deS most emphatically that these changes were referred to the P«oP^e^ "^^ ^^^iii'j' were not made in opposition to the feeUngs ofihe majority of the electors. A reference was alio made to the Stamp A^i .P"«ed »« tax the American colonies, and «hil« on that subject 1 wish to show the distinution between hat Act and the Stamp Act recer^ly brought nto coeration. The Attorney General and others' attempted to -^h^" " '"K^'^Se tried to make it appear that the existing Stamp Act was passed and enforced by » foreign Parliament, S"ch, however, is not the otse. The first was passed by the P»rlia- ment of Qre*t Britain tS make the colonies pay a share of the expenses of the ^ar which had just terminated between togland and France.-a war in which the colonies had spent some of their best blood, and a share of S treasure. But the whole comparison is done away when we reflect that the existing io? was p«sed by a Parliament in uhich we we have a voice. Gentlemen may say that it is a small voice and not worth h^'iDg.T"" mtter how small it ch.uges the constitution, al rule relating to the whole matter. The ob- jeotton was to '• taxation without representa- tion,' ' but we have a representation. From more than one member here, and over and over again in this discussion, we have heard that tie scheme of ynjon was ob- jectionable, because one of the delegates, while passing through Quebec, ».«aohed his wme to it o# Sunday morning.-it has never been pretended that more than one did t. The deed, of course, was to be regretted, but I ctn tell gentlemen that therchas been more heavy Bins than that committed round these Ses within the past few days and i would be well for us all if, when the time r^proachedTfor us to leave the ^orld if we 3 no Tea'er sin to answer for. I can ap- Swiateli due regard for the Sabbath and the 5r?prietJ of observing it with decorum, but I cannot appreciate this double refining, this st?i°nine at ft gnat and swallowing a camel. Some of the gentlemen who made this objec- Son committed a worse sin w'thin naif an hour afterwards by reviling their neighbors. (The usual hour for adjournment having arrived, the debate wa> adjourned and the House adjourned.) Thdesday, Feb. 20. The House me*i at U o'clock. ■ The adjourned debate was resumed. Mr Blaijohabd continued :-I would not, M? Speaker, have claimed so much time were U not for the peculiar circumstances in which I am placed. Rut of the number of gentle- men Sho spoke at the other «de. a good many occupied more than an hour and a half, SLd to all who spoke I am called upon to re- _i.. T »;n tikn n»re- however, that my rej ^ikn "this" morning "^'Ibe trough I wiima a small compass, lor I find that I »>»'« K«°| over nearly all that I desired to say. inere iereSneo'tio point, whiehl omitted yes- terday in speaking of the finances, and theae r^ftXeu" first. I shewed the House tha^ the financial statement published yesterday morning, in answer to the calculations of Mr. Johnston, contained two or three gross errors by not tsking into consideration the free coods that will be imported. ''But there was another error ^^»fj- omitted to mention, and which was one that such a gentleman as Mr. Jones •hojiW "ot have mtle. Referring to one item that he mention., we find him stating that at the pre- sent rate of duty cotton warp will not be lareely imported. Does not every one know that at this moment cotton warp is only half he pr ce that it was last year It h" come down from Is. 3i. to 81. . sterhng. per pound . and yet that gentleman, in ^barging the duty derivable at fi teen percent., has not tanen not oe of the price. The same importation of cotton warp that was made last year would colt j^ust half what it did then, and therefore ?he dSty. as compared with last year, will tand at'n per cent Yet that gentleman actuated, no doubt, by a desire to make the matter look as bad as possible, has calculated Te duty as being payable on the same quan- tity and at the same price. There is also a very large reduction in the price of all cot- ton goods, and yet Mr. Jones takes no notice "Vhrhon. member for Colchester (Mr. Chambers), who dwelt upon the tantf, must h^ve been aware of these facts. I have no doubt'^Kes not like that the whole coung should know them, and would prefer that hu customers should not know that cotton and cotton warp has fa len nearly 100 per cent. I? was said in course of the debate that it was nev'er intonded°or expected that the delegates would have taken any action in England that would bind this country--that they were merely to have gone home for consultation, and to have returned with a scheme for rati- fication by th"s Parliament. That statement has gone from lip to ip. bat I hold m my hand a public declaration made by the Sr 0* t^he Government *t the time when the resolution passed. In 1866, in jep y to Mr. Annand. Dr. Tapper made th.s wpl"*" tion, which is to be found on page 224 of the debates :— " Hon. Provincial Secretary, in reply to a remark from Mr. Annand, said that the pas- Smc of the resolution would enable a Boheme of Union to be given effect to by the Impe"«» Parliament, but that one of the conditions Sou d"e that the existing Legislatures would not be interfered with, and would continue to sit for the term of their election. I ask whether, in the face of this deolar*- tion! it can be said that the country was de- S^f^^nd that the delegates were n^^g^^^^^ to ?revent7he possTbilitv of a misundeman^ Ine the leader of tUe G«vernment, in dis- tilot wd unquftliflea terms, declared th.t the 150 m' «leleg»tei would Mk thn r«s.i i. t» \o p«M .he Act Bat we h?- u'** ^.^^'oeot Act of Union hw nTy,VhZ' !!*'^ ^■*'" *•>«• th«« Legi.l.ture. What w^. ."oognizeu by not the delett^ten II.1 J^*' *'>6 f«ot ? Did the country to un jlri! *, *"ent, and she the Qaeen'^. Pro" lama Uon t''*' »°»>in/buf P»rry the raeamreint,^ ?«•"?' necewary to the Aota of irk-t ' ^ *'>« fi"t Chapter of North AmerlciTot a?S-^-1 ^''^ B^">«H re enacted it clause by clau^*'^ " '^ '» l"*** t'«Iy the condition of afe' ""epting en- Ac^]rn£/,„?-- :-The na.e of the i-^lhe »e«1Sronh°e°ttro=-,^''«'' •"". whole public »y»tBmBhou]KJln''V^''^ ^^e w».the object in ohanffiL^K'"**' ^ ^^^ »he Legislature if theAcfl^ ^^^ member, of But the ninth c auel of Z' T '"og^'zed ? referred to mentionMhe Brfti^K'>5"'"'.'""°'» ^ loa Act in terms recoffniSn^ •? ^"'J'* ^mer- the country »nA ,;. *-j ^'"^ "* «• the law of ture ehair^be coit^oS'S?, '"'^.^^'^ ^i'^'» operation. Jf»twithit«d'w th..''"°''V°»° two liwaofouf own To™: I ? '°*' we have the Union Act" we^ri^J^' H'^' ''"«'' "pon wa. deceived 'and befrlvld I'V''^ ''°"°^°? templated the paseag W/hr*^ """ ^o"* •hail wa t with anti«i«.t? . ^ measure. T Attorney Genera";K;?,%o° »'!.''"''>« '^' my argument Tf f,LJ^^ . *''*t branch of like to have gone in o an^r,'"''!''^' ' 'ho'li •mendment. which I h*° *f •™""'tion of the beoauM I believe them to „lnl?° '""" **We. expoaition of oon.tUut on«?if"' • S^""*"* have been able to em hoH^^u :!*.'' «° /« m I DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS b;ve bef .blere'S"o?/u iiTn '°F" ^ "d I invite^ tTelttoSn? ""n"'^ *»•«* ^iew' . ♦hema8abodyor/„e?;"70«°««'to take country where I have m.'d"''/'? "^°" *« the t»ken wrong views nr^- ' ^''"e statement will not golver rhm becauifr^''^ ^'^ ^ occupied considerable Hm! "" l'V^« «l«ady '•"« in the advantage of vervVon ^' "^^ ''^^ Some members have quoIpT»i "I 'Peeches. 8. though theColoni.lCrvt l««P»'«be8 the measure to be .uhmff,'i^ "^"^ "quired That course. I venture "« At J° '*'" P-^^P'^- ttmplated. The direction.7' '""never con- office were that the m.?' tf*'"' '^^e Colonial o the legisl\\Zr«d bJ?h'^''^"''""d^ the scheme was pas ed w k *^« '^g'slatures ber« pf the Parliament 'f &' «"" .?''« ""em. ed their truot. or not i« -n^*? ^°*'» ^etray- •m not here aa the'; dpfpn""?""*'""". I wp y to the taunt, which h.'^'^'u^"' ^ might "yng.tbat themen who ,,V^ been ""d by equal, if not superior to TuT ^'i" *^«n were now; not only in St of 5a.«'„J'''°.'""« "-"e bat ID honor and nlfr,-:-*'^"* •"^ "bility P«t,Ifeelno«ason h^' J°' ""^ "^^ position I occupied fowi^ "''•""d of the ed in accordance with f hi"'' ""*"" ■• I act. mind, and I wag ,« 1?^. oonviction. of my for Whose char"ter" uTem, V'^ ^«''"''°^° had no reason to bl^h Tf '' ""^ opinions I may since have been th*rS^rTJ""°'' *^a8e tlemen who win .!rl!?'°'"> on them bv ^^n! fore they earn for Vh4™^°,^*"*°y » day^be- ' '««"• Tha boD. meirber •ble to tak''"hu'"'own rf?''"!' '"•*«« member frtV p<,i i. 7" P""'! *nd the hon smooth bore " r n»«L. f?* °»™e of either the good taltS or h»h^ **•** ^ •dmire thus attacking absent mn-''"^"^ •''°'"' »>y 'ery bold when th« L '"■ . ^""o °»en ai» But if we are to h/^r^^V""' J" "ight I .hould prefer thaS it h?1, ^^ ."ythlng bore," rather than .U»i.*'" ''y. » »«»ootg Arohibald's Bmoo?h!o^'^!°«/'"' but Mr which I.houIdTkeJo " *• °^ .*'*'' ^'"'J 0' bored at all thV/thV"° ??°'"<' ''«"; and if performed by SQch 2S"*''o? «l>ould not be auger, as we\2v6 here tS J'^k';? *'"' P°d er of those men is before the ''n"„'""l '"""■•°- they need not fear the vlr^.Jl """itry. and I therefore feel that t„t **' '"'""ty.- ohampioa wouIJ be Lfn.^T'''' ^^"^^ '^eir cessary. I wish hr.«l^ ^f^""'^ ^^^^ ie ne- were here foT » litHe wh 1« f *' '^V °' '»»««' "ome of those who h"«t' '^°' "^ ^^^^ »ere. i»« of .' treach'ry - 'JnJ''.? '° '"^ *» t'lit- »od •« wily men ' wo„?,J f «°'oo»i' bore." did not, wodd receTve such '.^*"'.?' '^ ^^^V the floors of this Hour ..• °""«*"o'' o^ their conduct meriSTh.t' J" "^ °P'°ion where, however .omef„^?*^5. e?"" «'«- public duties rtth«?- '/• *''« discharge of under all h^ ofc.l"*** P'?"*" ''f«' "d been better to hSoond?.?". Jt'"."''^ have without .ome of ?hp ?» V' ^iwussion which were made """eemly reference. tb?P?o\aMc?era?y Td'" '°' ^''^^'' Canada ^aV^o'unWpay ^J'l-S .'*'.' '"^'^ ordinarv that mo^Ii, P ^i. ^* '■ most eztra. figurerplacedTe?o'rr,hem''''V".* *'''' p'*^^ Ho-isethatCanad»h!^l -^T^ "'•owed the »nd above the amounts K-!'^""'"?" '"'^^nd for debt, but sTooo was for tJri* '*' °«* Railway, and $450,000 were for „.^''"P°"» expenses. It is true th«r«ion nn^"^ °"""* interett, but that i. n«* ^ ^100 Ooo wa. for of what'thi. Provi'-e wonM T'' '5 ' P°'"on were not for ConfedwaTio^''* ^"«, « P»y i' it pitly'Xrdebt°°?l""r-l=-^« "'» "« million, and a ha?fnVV",i""'' " °P '<> eight eral Qovernmenf h.pC ^-^H^'' "^d the Gin- ^500.000, by wh?ch ff" the interest on the amount. If itTs adde, ,^^°''«''^ i''*' "'"'*«<* because we a e not abt to°m„1'*'' ^* *'" »>• expenses. Let th« al ™™* ^""^ current the proof to con rovertmv"«°?:f* bringdown ' oan.-it is impaisible t^L f™'"*' '^ 'hey becaase leaving out th.?' ^^^^^ °" do .o, which may be^con«idilt A°1*P°"« B'i'way charge of her c«rr^i/ )■ ?wT* "^^otia in di.- tion is whether th ^'''*»^»'»"- The que*- were suffi^S?" ieetTho,?.' '3'?''^ "«" «er_t that they werroL a'nd !'A'L'l!'l'rf •- ehowthfuhon w tarTff in' "f- P'''=*«°^ "» "di.ntre..ur;;o^JS)rl?e"h'a''n*Vi^eS; OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 161 tftken from No^a Scotia befow, I veply that the proof of the pudding i« in the eating, and the plain fact ii tliat tinoe let July we haye gene behind hand a' .ut $500,000. If an aniwer can be gifen .j thie aeieruon 1 trust it will be given, but none ha» been at- tempted 80 far. The hon. member for Kinge waa exceedingly anxious to make an attack on me, and I felt afterwards that I waa lees plucky than usual when I prevented him opening u£ a previous debate for the purpose of going into a criticism upon my remarks, but I thought that I and the House and the country had had enough of those attacks, and therefore resolved that if members were anxious to diiplay their wit they should do to within the rules of Parliament. He, how- ever, referred to some remarks of mine about my feelings after an encounter with Mr. John- son. Sir, when I have a skin on which no lash will produce an impression I may be m the position of some who never feel a sting. He reminds me of the cattle in a particular part of Ireland, which, it is said, are a most convenient description of cattle, for when he wanted a hide he had only to whip him through a hedge,— that would tske the skin off, but in course of the next week a new one would come on. I feel attacks that are made upon me and do not pretend that I am not sen- sitive, nor do I envy the man who does not feel them. But when the hon. member says that after the attack which he referred to I should have gone to my constituents and told them that I was unfit to represent them, he much mistook honorable and gentlemanly feeling. We have been talked to about taxes and tariffs and some gentlemen with no bated breath, and one gentleman said that three- fourths of the people would preftr annexa- tion to the United States to Confederation. It required all your vigilance, Mr. Speaker, to check these disloyal sentiments, but i should like to point them to the land of their delight, and show them that the greatest taxation ever dreamed of prevails there. 1 came yesterday across a statement compiled from statistics which shewed that the taxation of the United States amounts to ^22 07 for every man, woman and child within the Union per annum. Who will ttlk about annexation being preferable to Confederation after that ? Who will say that it is better to so into the Democracy and pay a share of fts war debt— better that our country should be ruined with all its interests than that we should be associated with our fellow«sub- jects in Canada? I conceive that the ex- pressions which we heard upon that point were made in haste, and that there is hardly a man in or out of the House who would re- peat "them after an hour's consideration. Away; if you please, with all loyalty and at- tichment to the British Crown, decide if you like as to which country wo are to.iom upon mere natirflal considerations, but let ua nor, forget that if we go under the stars and stripes, taking even the lowest view of the cases, we will be a hundred times more heav- ilv taxed than we are within the Dominion. I feel in making these remarks at tne oioso ofUhe debate that I am not like a person passing through an arid desert, culling a flower here and ther" because the subject abounds with argument, and the only diffi- oulty is in selecting which to give the pre- ference to. I have already commented upon some peculiar and unnecessary statementa ud /eferenccs that were made, but there waa BO espr""!'"" nied which I have not referred to, and which grated very harshly on my ear, it was the phase " common drunkard.' Applied as it was to a public man of high station, I feel the expression to have been one of which the gentleman ui'ng it should l«avo been ashamed, as I know some of his friends were on account of his coarseness. The re- ference was either to Mr. MoGeeortoBir John A. MaoDonald— I care not to which of them; but I will tell the hon. member for Piotou that he should be a little more cau- tious before he ventures to throw stones. I am as sober a man as there is in the Province, but I should be very sorry to apply such a term to any one, and I would remind the hon. gentleman that there are some of hit own house and of hit own associates whc n the phrase would suit as well as any of the public men of Canada. Mr. Spbiaker said that this expression waa out of order. v .; 4^ Mr. Blanchahd— I have no objection to withdraw it, but the remark was no mo'e out of order than the language which I am replying to and which was used deliberately in reference to Mr. McGee, or Sir John A. Mc- Donald. The Epeakkb.— It is not in my power to control members in speaking of persons else- where, but I cannot allow any offence, by im- plication or otherwise, to those over whom I am presiding ... , Mr. Blanchard.— My remark had no reier- enoe to any person within these walls, and I thould be sorry to retaliate in the style dis- played by the hon. member for Piotou, but I repeat that there is hardly a man in Nova Scotia who, after sitting down and calmly reflecting upon those with whom he is con- nected, will feel himself in a position to throw stones at his neighbors; and I think that . when any member so far forgets himself as to use the language which I referred to, he merits the answer which I have given. The same gentleman gave us another long dis- course on the question of the lands at Piotou taken for Railway purposes. I', is not denied that in being granted again, the late govern- ment restricted the lease to the right to use them for those purposes. Some of the leases of those lands were made by the government of which Dr. Tupper was the leader, and I and my colleagues issued others. If, how- ever, they be unconstitutional and void, there is * way of arriving at that decision. The substance of the whole complaint seems to be that some one applied for a water lot on which to make a marine slip, and was in- formed that he could not get a grant of the water in front of the land of any person else. The land ceased to be the property of the projectors of the slip when it became the pro* perty of the government for public purposes. I do not feel in a position to say whether the ^. ..;^ ~/'1a^4 a.. I. a*. «*Mttfr\/\ >v.inaf iM. not qualimj' ul laU'.s lirrvru tt t«-5 r ^ -• — "•- but I do say that the moment the land was dedicated to public purposes the Marine Slip Company and everybody else lost their rights I 162 ■ iriiK ill It; bat I tkk« for gnnttd that, if thov hkd »?."'«.;. ""' '°™'^ ""^ h»TebiinX,;3 b*Te htd Reciprocity without anybodf hailiff • bit the w.wr. by mflM.of lesfiglS If hf undeMtood the matter he would kcow th»f fkl.u ^' ^^K'"l«tive reciiircoity neatiR tb.t the Ben.te .nj Hou»e of foprfa.nta.ivL of the United StUfs «hall paw a bill "Ir .h mittiDB oertiOa .rticle. da?y Vre* hi year' Jindtlj.tthe next year it may bo repealecl' No colony would accept such an ^rrar Sni for an hour, becauee thi. effect would STio build ap mterertB and t; «de«, and after we hadgot theo, .a operation, three lin? S Tn Act of Congresa wouK; destroy them utterly The very fault that was found with thoCana' c^ian minutera waa that they hint i i. "il- lingnM. to accept legiBlative Reciprocity We UnltTsf? ^k'* ^u'-'^" Legislature of th! United Statea by which ground platter wa« •dmitted duty free; all Jround the bL of lZi\" '/ bylmagio. mill, were erected .o 8"°'? »;^e plaster, but in a year or two aft^r that induttry was fairly under way the Sen! ate revoked the Act, the mills went o rnl^ Md are lying there 'yet, monumentH of the S not** tSrf ' °^ '*^i.«l*^>'« recVooity' i^oes not the hon. meniber know f^ir»k«. more, that we could not pas'e In act to "dm h free the goods of any ^^e country aX J The policy of the British Government is thl rooh arrangements arc to be made only bv WK "' u^l i<^P"M Parliament or by treat v When he talks about the United States hav" ing reciprocity with one Province he^houW falksVs'iV CaVi^r^'" i-PO«.ibre 'anyyett ,v *f L ^"'"i* were the bete noir. and as f we could get a treaty without any diSh^ If we were once rid of her. But if he win iWtSlSSf ' \'- A^'^orpey General^' .^ill!!i . • ' • '?*"' opinion, reciprocity If S "anl^'^^Tl*"*,* ^^ *»"« no need for i^ th^!'Jt°^ would be far better without it- that we want protection, and should keen oarselves to ourselves. "uouia Keep The hpn. member for Piotou was foremnot among those who talked about trraohery, and ho went so far as to compare the men who voted for Confederation with MonS and Lopez, the most contemptible characters that iT? ^^' P'^'l^oed- I wonderffi he dS not compare us with Judas Iscariot fnr ha could only go that one step farther than ho went. I was glad to hear him say S.? he had no personal acquaintance with the Sena nsed'strr' '^^' ^''^' he could not have psed such language as that they were "a BonTVVrlT^^.''^r': I" John a Ander r^t'xv- ^Tph'bald, John Locke or Benja- min W,er a disgrace to the country? And WhfirPft',V" V"-*' way of our public men v When u 18 in his power to boast of hsvin^ fTJrZ^V:^''^'^ ""« hundredth part o"f the good which some of these men hsve done 7^T of those gentlemen have built ui. larce fortunes hv thdr. ;r,ri...t ^""1 "i/ large Md have done-niorefor NoVscotia'S ho ;«r?'" I wi?u\r " ^' "'» '^' next\unared years. I will say no more upon this point, DEBATES AND I«RdCE!it)mod ini r,fl!, '^.-""k"'*^, '^'" »he hon. member tT.lr^?'k"P°"u^" "•"«"•fi:^ and feel that it shouH be withdrawn, H* gave us poeflo nlTSU ;° "y '^"'^"'"y in hisspc^^and quoted Shakwpeare in reference to mV I recollect hearing Mr. Howe say that one omild make Shakesreare and the Bible provS tXlT't^''' "-^^^ luotation W.H sefected for me T It was in reiation to the man who never smiled. I did not think that sudh a description was applicable to rae«-that I wa« aoynio.whonever enjoyed anything like a •i°m;n'wl.?V''"P''r "V« «'"n°whmo''f a man who does smile, and he says "'^''•' ''vHKT„''f.,"""» '»'» »»"« '^Kal". Md b. a f «Ik"1*'"* P^^'haps the best answei- 1 can give to the hon. member is to repeat .ome of the ears of the House and of the country. He ■aid he would be afraid to meet me in a dafk S. °wu° ^*^^ ""^ behind him in such a place. When a member of this House would and n.? '° "o""" P'"^<* *° n^y PO'Ttion. bSf liule rpn.v '%°8'^"g«' ^ f««l ^hat he needs ,-»i. K "P,'^' I^m'nassMsin.aml? He IS much mutaken in my character. What- C^^'T'^^'y,*?'""^" I "^y i to h« butro«n rn*K-"K^'.°"°' ''^hrad his back; at ILfh J ' I"" t^i*^* "•n "ho would aim ■?°t>«'^ ""Oh a stab as he aimed at me would do anything in a dark line Then,e nJssof thfhl^f "'^'T^'^'i for the nervou ! ness or the hon. member yesterday when it ZL^^Zf ''''''''\'''' "^''^^^^^^^^ hi. u" "'" "Peeches should dose the de- anlio„?fn t^'"^ .*°u^>» ''««t and was most anxious to know whether he could not eet an hflYf Ti^*? ''HK I •*«' willing tcfhea? Tf « Ji^f '"1*5 °f 'he House will permit it If we are to sit for a week or a month longer by all means let us have the reply and the re joinder which will follow. He safd also that such language as I had used wSs o Jly to be ^5^l''\.*^« ^o'^°« offioe. the fish market and the back slums of the city I ask if anv fuTr'^r^^ '^' ^T' '« '"tinted ?n making thl hlT^\^ " *^'«« ^ ^hen he talks aboul the back slums I feel that others mav ft, !L?°""»f '«h these locahSeS as L ftmilv oTtVa?" *° *T*l^ "^"y name and benSnd h.,f '*i,°*T^^*'« good reason to tak?.T /.n"* ^\^° *^^ hon. member under- de»d fl.Vi T '^' • hrother, who has been of m/?f k'*"*^"?^^ y«"«' would be ashamed not fL/1"' """■.' ^."«' I "^'^ him if he should not feel somewhat ashamed? The honor of we« in hf«V' t'^K ^''^l^^' "0* '° hT-if°t When npv? I ^W^ ^ "'"^ ^e sadly tarnished, hfi Wi K^. \^^^^i to me about my family win hi ^h***' ^^""^ of the retaliation which Sl« nn^h"!""- i '^o not rely for my de Sv nw? .the f»me of my ancestors, but on TlZlf'^il'^'V^ ^" '"y 0^° 'Ability, and fpn S- *^". ^hen next the hon. member mulV„«°/V°"*^°i°<^"isein these attacks he m-?v f^f ^^^^*" *T^*t I will have an opportu h^lIZ'^^^y-- ^ «^"* exceedingly tfiat he nas driven mn jntn > i;.,„ ™u:-i. t _. .." fpv nnt tr. ».» " TV ■■ '."■■ .""'^"" i v.oum pre- -LtV»?h w*'''?°J?.<''o»^°g -^i« debate, in dosSrJf ?''; ^ ''"'t^'^t the olive branch cdth«tw^o?/''J5^^P*''°''' *°'^ almost plead, cd that we should have no more exhibitions the hoo. inAoiiber g:?. and feel that *■ gaye uu poetic n hid speech, and rence to me, I "ay that one the Bible prove ion wa8 celfcted the mm who ink that luch a Kie*-that I wan anything' like a 'a aomewhere of te eayi agato, and b> a in 9 wet I can give !at Bome of the d leave it in the ic country. He et me in a dlark i faim in auch a ia House would in my poaition, d that he needs win, am 1 7 He iraoter. What- oay it to his shiad hia back; who would aim aimed at me, laae. The me r the nervoui- srday, when it y. General and d close the de- t and was most )uld not get an illing to hear 1 will permit it. month longer, ^ly and the ic- eaid also that was only to be i fish market, I ask if any ited in making he talks about others may calities as I. ny name and :ood reason to ember under- who has been Id be ashamed > if he should Fbe honor of t in his,— if i*^^ dly tarnished, ut my family dilation which y for my de- itors, but on n ability, and ion. member le attacks he an opportu ^ngly that he I would prc- lliis debate, olive branch Jmost plead* I exhibitions OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 153 of warm feeling, but that the public buslneta shouW^eoSi on in a gentlemanly tone and manner. I rejoice that that appeal was ?„pS to auitably by many members who have "ngaged in the debate. I now. in con - S.on. thank the House tor the patience with which niy address has been listenec' *.o. Tnd promise that unless circumstances require U I will not again ooourr so Urge a portion of time. BON. ATTORNKT QKNKaAL't SPBKCH. Hon. Attobnby Qinkeal laid :— I am happy that a fast this debate, which is the most im- Dort»at that ever occurred in the Legislative galls of this Province, i" »bout being brought t^* close In the remarks which it will be Lords and Commoni of England have deter- mined to make an alteration in the oonatitu- tion they were at perfect liberty to do ao, for the *imple reason that there is no autfcotity sunerior to theirs that can question what tbey ha've done. But is that the case in thia coun- try 7 What sort of a oonstitutloa have tne people of Nova Bcotia 7 A written constitu- tion and charter, given to them through the commission of the Governor of the Province in 1747. and composed likewise of a number of instructions in dcspatohes, which 1 have carefully examined, but which I shall not reaa to the House. That charter defines the Legislature of the Province to consist or a Governor quasi king, a council guan Lords, and a House of Bepretcntatives quasi l-om- mons, and confers authority upon it ^o make laws, statutes and ordinances for the peace. my duty to offer to the Ho^»\\,I''" °°\T 3 order and good government of the coloBy,- tLe tempestuous oratory of the leaned ana «'^«' » «„j.^^ j, j^fi^cd eud writtea like honorable eenileman who has just resumeu xuio uuu_ ,, .^ , a*.,„. .„^ „,... P»rii»m«nt h?e chair, but I shall endeavor as calmly and oioUy as is possible to review him and h s Surse 1 will not notice the amendments ih ch ho bas offered, because in •u.Uimng The resolutions which I submitted J m"« neceiearily refute his. as they '"e introduced for the purpose of contradicting mine. I can- not of cSe admit the soundness of the con- stitut onal law which those a'^enc'inents em- hodv and I do not believe they are alto- ^efher accurate a. to facts. I shall however rreat ti>e honorable and learned member with the utmost possible courtesy., and stall en- deavor as far ae possible to indorse hi« own Sateofhimaelf. He tells us hat he is a verTprofound lawyer-I intend to admi i !!he says he is very brave-the error of all his enemies -I will admit that also. -he la a hero But there in one perfection which I fear I cannot concede to the honorable gen- tleman, I am not prepared to adm t that he is a v^ry good logician His dialectjes are u li - tie disordered, and I fear that in the mul- t plSy oYhis studies he h" not paid a grea deal of attention to the art of logic, /-he tiret S the re olutions which Haid on the tab e as- serts the somewhat self-evident propoflu on ?hat the Legislature of this country, having been elected to make laws, statutee and d^nanoe ! under a written commission or charter, bad no power or authority to effect an alteraUon or abridgement of the con- stitution I'hat was a proposition, one would sunnoae that was too self-evident to be con- tSted and I aak. Mr. Speaker, how the Sed member from Inverness has attempt- ed tScoSrovert it T 'lehas done BO by re- ferrfn-to the Imperial Parliament, and say- ine in%ffect :-" Because the Imperial Parlia- mfntposSsesthe power to «Vter the con- stitution, therefore the i«fe"°' .^*^J ^'^t''*^! Nova Scotia has the «ame authority. ne need not have given himself the rouble to search for precedents and authorities to sus- ain his view of the power of the P«l,»ment of Great Britain, for \ho,ev« doubted or Questioned the extent of that power ? ihe P« lament oi- that country is the supremo power in the land,-it stands aboy_e_ every- thine: and can theielore ao as i- {Jicacrro. ** B ab^solufe within itself, and there is no power within the constitution that can review tg acts TKatutee. Consequently when the Queen, SO that of the United States, and our ParhanMnt consisting of Governor, Council and AsaemWy h&venopowev to legislate beyond theauthen- ty conferred on them by the commisaion or letters p iteot. Therefore It is possible for a statute of this Legislature to be void and there is ft power which can declare it so. in order to illuftrata this position ^let ub_ sup- pose that the Legislature of Nova Seotia pRSsed an act authorising the Legislature ot Prince Edward Island to tax the people of Nova Scotia. They would have Ihe power practically and de facto to put such ft law on the statute book, but I ask if that statute would not be void? I ask if the people of Nova Scotia could be taxed under an act pf - Bed in Prince Edward Island and by tho -u- thority of Buch a statute? Let us suppose f' ? a moment that by virtue of the LeglBlat. v^ power conferred on them by this Parliament, the Legislature of Prince Edward Island «t- posed a stamp duty such as Canada mi tak- en the liberty of imposing on us,— and sup- jose that a gentleman in Nova Scotia baa given to another a note of hand which the law of Prince Edward Island declared void, unless stamped, and that an action was brought upon it,— the maker of the note pleads the statute of Prince Ednard Island, and what would the Supreme Court say ? Would not the Supreme Court have the power to decide that the Legislature of Nova Scotia had transgressed its authority in paesing Buohalaw, conferring on a foreign legi«la- ture the power to tax our people? Would not the juages refer to thiB charter and de- ^ olarp the stamp act void? That undoubtddly wouidbe the decision, and if the judges did not decide so they would conduct themselves in opposition to the plainest principles of justice and common sense. If they did not decide so the party to whom the note was given would appeal to the PVivy Council, and how long would such a law be allowed to dis- grace the statute book of Nova Scotia. There- fore the comparison between the two Parlia- ments wa«i entirely inapplicable. Tbe^ i'^g''^* lature of Nova Seotia as compared with that of Great Britain is like a mosquito compared ~:th ail elephant. There is a remarkable re- temblanoe be*;weeu them,— the joaiquito has a long trunk, aB we sometiu'eB know, when he penetrates our fiesh and oaudes no little irn- 154 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS i I Uhon of onr nerres, and "c has the elephant. The elephant could taki, a man up on his trunk anr» pitch him on hig back, and if I aseerted that the moequito could not do the ■ame, following bin process of reasoning in the present oaie, the learned gentleman would contradict me and refer to the elephant in proof of his opinion. The reasoning in th" one case HM good as that in the other, ana waen the honorable gentleman undertook to oast a doubt on the authority of Lord Mans- ueld lam again involuntarily but forcibly reminded of the mosquito and the elephant. 1 think I have shown plainly that there is no comparison between the two Legislatures, -I have shown that it does not follow that be- cause the Imperial Parliament can alter the constitution, the Parliament of Nova Scotia, can do so too. But he has asserted that tLe Legislature of Nova Sootia had repeatedly altered the Constitution. There I am at issue again with the hon member as to the facts. This Legislature has in no single instatoe altered the constitution, but has always enacted its laws wjthin the range of the constitutional authority conferred by the charter and the instructions of which I have spoken, "Bat," ■ayg the honorable member for Inverness, has not this Legislature altered the polling distnots throughout the country? Have they not increased the representation of one coun- ty ana lessened that of another? and is this not an alteration .,f the constitution?" My answer is, no. 1 jese were no violations of the constitution. At the time when the Gov- ernor was ordered to call our assembly for the purpose of making laws there was no subdivision into counties, the count/y w«s sparsely populated, no survey had been made, and as a consequence the Province was as it were all one county. The instructions from the homegovernment tell the Governor and tounoiJ, in calling together the Legislature, to make such distribution of the seats as they thought proper, so that they acted under the constitution throughout. When the country was subdivided into townshi'js and counties, it became necessary to altei ^he re- presentation, and thus the whole prooe«''ing.3 to which he refers are strictly within the limits of constitutional authoiity. Then again the honorable member referred to the case of Cape Breton, and asked, "Did not the King in council by proclamation unite Cspe Breton and Nova Sootia?" He did; and that circumstance goes to maintain the line of argument which I have adopted. What was the condition of Cape Breton 7 She was a conquered colony, and from the time of the conquest of Louisburg was held by the sovereign of England as his estate in fee Himple. The King had the whole legisla- tive power in himself and he chose to govern the colony, as a crown colony, under certain regulations made by himself, through a Go- vernor and Council. The Parliament of Eng" land or that part of it consisting of Lords and Commons had nothing to do with the matter, for as I said the King was owner of Cape Breton. He did not give it the same charter as Le gave to Grenada and the older colonies, but continued to rule it as sole le- gislator until he thought proper to confer the privileges that be had conferred on Nova Scotia. The hon. gentleman will not pretend to say that Cape Breton ever had an assem- bly oy any body resembling a kgislsture to make laws for the country. When the Kine thought proper to annex the island to this Province he did not infringe the laws of Nova Sootia but imparted the blessings of the con- stitution of Nova Sootia to his subjects in y?Pe,^jeton, and when the people of the island foolishly objected to the transfer and went home with their case to the Judiciary of *'RSl»nd. they were told and told properly the King|owns you. and as ho thought pro* per to dispose of you he had a right to do so because he held you in absolute sovereignty '* That illustration therefore goes te sunnort my argument. ^^ Then, again, the hon. member asked us if the Legislature of Nova Sootia did not confer universal suffrage on the people, and in do- ing so change the constitution ? I reply. No It was not a Legislature that gave universai suttrage; the original commission was to the . planters and freeholders," and they alone in conjunction with thf< Governor and Coun- cil, could make laws, ^^he Governor repre- sented the Sovereign, ar-i the Sovereign had retained m his hands power to abrogate anv statute of the Legislature. He had retained all the powers which ho did not confer on the people of Nova Sootia, and those powers were by no means inconsiderable. Havin" then, given the privilege of legislation to the planters and freeholders, he had a ri^ht afterwards to give that privilego to tha rest of the people. Therefore, without violatinc the constitution, but in the exercise of her Koyal authority, by assenting to an act of our Parliament, the Queen extended the pri. vilege, formerly limited to the fr.aholders and planters, to the householders and other inhabitants of the country. We were told thr.i on another pccasion the whole constitu- tion wsi convulsed and overthrown by a sort of pcitical earthquake-thg.t the whole of the oH Council of Twelve who exercised le- gislative and executive functions were dis- missed by a single stroke of the pen of the tolonial minister, and thus a complete revo- lution was effected. In that stitement of the case the hon. member is greatly mistaken. Who.j Council was that? It was the same Council that the King had ordered to be summoned when he gave the charter to Lord Cornwallis. That charter ordered the Gov- tl°r.°Vu ,*f'^i* '^^^ '^^°°"> » Council who should hold oflSce at the will of His Majesty iheie twelve Councillors were the legal bug- ceesorsof the first Councillors, and at the time they were diSTfirfsed were holding their 8eat»< at the Council Board at the pleasure of thejvingor Queen, and were liable to bo called upon at any moment, as they were on the revision of our institutions, to resign their commissions and give place to pubPti - tutes. So that in no one of those cpses was our constitution invaded. But the argument of the hon. member as- sumed a position which is by no means ration our Constitution was changed by our Legislature. He assumed that to bo a fact Which IS not consistent with the truth. The Legislature of Nova Sootia has never been a 11 ^' OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 155 will not pretend r had tn assem- 5 a kgiglnture to When the King le island to this the laws of Nova sings of the con- > hii Kubjects in I ijsople of the the transfer and the Judiciary of d told properly ho thought pro» a right to do so, te sovereignty." goes x» support ber asked us if a did not confer iplc, and in do- 1 ? I reply. No. gave universal Esion was to the and they alone, 'nor and Coun- overnor repre- Sovereign had abrogate anj le had retained 3t confer on the those powers able. Havinff, gislation to the 3 had a right ego to the rest thout violating exercise of her ig to an act of tended the pri. he fr.iholders ders and other We were told rhole constitu- rowa by a sort the whole of ) exercised le* ons were dis- he pen of the jomplete revo« itement of the itly mistaken, wss the same ordered to be larter to Lord cred the Gov- Counoii who His Majesty, the legal sue* i> and at the holding their ie pleasure of liable to bo they were on as, to resign ace to fi'bpti- «e cpses was I. member as- ly ^no means 5 of Confcdc" mgcd by our to bo a fact truth. The ncTcr been a narty to the British North America Act, nor SaaU eMt recognized that Act as having any Coe or obligation on the people of Nova SooUa Upon°that point our btatu e book is completely dumb-the British North Amen- ca Act is not ratified or confirmed by any .t»Mite of ours, and without some such sta. Khetople and Legi.lMureoov.ld not have expressed a desire to be co-'nected with Can*, da These are arguments for the peop.'e of England, and for the constituuonal lawyers of that great country .-they will pass from my "pf to the Grown Officers of Eu|'and The constitutional officers of Nova Boot a have shown themselves unable to deal witn the question, and we would have 8upp.-ed that when all the leading Barristers of ^ova Sootir,as has been stated, »« Confederates i i« striinae that among them all there has not been T man able ^to produce anything in ?he shape of an argument, or bearing the slightest resemblance to an »^nume,nt. I shall state the case most simply, so that it wilbe plain to the meauect understanding, Ind I assert tha^ throughout the deba e in the Legislature 1 througnout the press of of the country with the immense array of SrofcBsional talent which has been spoken of not a man has been able to state anything Uke a simple and reasonable and propoation n favor o'f Confederation, and against the Mcuments which I have advanced. _ I will firftTurn attention to that great leading case which was decided, not by Lord Man«fieM alone but by the whole King's bench of England, and which stands on the books aufncon rovertible leading case on the sub - iect I mean the case of Hall and Campbell. ¥h; hon. member for InvernessUlked of Lord Mansfield, and seemed to insinuate that his authority was not of the highest cha.-aoter. Ind when I heard him I was a 1 itle a**oni8h^ ed I mubt confess. That astonishmeni is m. creased when I reflect who Lord Mansfield was -that he was decidedly and without ex- Ttion the greatest jurist who ever sat on thf^ench of England. Lord Coke w„ em - nent in the Common Law like Lord Mans- field, but the latter had travelled much fur- fher than Coke.-he had gone on a voyage of discovery all around the world of juris- nriidenoe critically examining and maVteS the eystems of Rome, Greece ^n^ P.lfstine-he was a most accomp- U^hed^scKr a man of the finest intelligence and the highest integrity. There never was a magistrate on the Bench who discharged his dut! imore satisfactorily, and W'th greater creAit, since the world began, and yet that is the mkn of whom the hon. and earne^ mem- ber presumes to speak .lightingly! Why. sir, as compared with Manslied. the best lawyers in this Provinae arc as the half hatched eag- lets compared to the full grown bird that soars affist'to the limits of the atmosphere^ to ga.e with unflinching eye on the dazzlmg radiance of the merjdian.tun. What was that case of Granada in which the decision of the King'.. Bench was given ?__The^kinj^ had to the royal arms, and m April, ^M. the kine. by a Commission, vthe same. I believe, « ?hat%onferred on this coun^t^ through Lord CornwalUs, for Lord Mansfield, in UiB decision, cites the very words wh-.oh conferred leAslative powers on Nova S jotia. and the Charter to Granada has. besides, the words: •'in like manner as we have conferred similar powers on the rest of our Colonies," or to ffeffect showing that the Charters were ^ copied from one original,) under t j great seal of England, conferred on the people of Granada tho privilege of "elf-gov^nment He had at that moment supreme legi, .ative power over the country .-it_ was his owfl country in right of his «overignty.-he was its supreme legislator, and, as Lord Mansfield savs could have put to death every inhabi- Un": or have given any kind of goverBment henleased. By that Commission, in April, V764, Tdivested himself of his legislative power. The Sovereign, it will be seen, is, as regards her rights and property, no more thin another individual,-she has her right*, the people theirs. These rights are Pe^^tly distinct and well defined by the constitution, and the Queen can no more interfere with the riebts of the Province than the Province can inferfere with her prerogatives. The two are perfectly distinct and independent, excep.ng that the relations of sovereign and Bubjectex- ist between them. In July. 17f>£"P| king undertook to exercise tae legislative powers himself, by imposing a tax upon the trade of Granada. A merchant who had paia the tax came to England, and sued the Col- lector for money received to his use, or as for money illegally exacted. The action was Kin Westminster Hall, and after four most solemn arguments by the ablest constitution- al lawyers! a decision was arrived at. And what was that decision? That the k>n&. hav- ine put his seal to the commission of Govern- or Melville, and conferred legisative power on Granada, h*d deprived himself of the pow- e°of legislatio^.-that he had .thereby irre, vocably lost the power of legislation.-that therefore his subsequent act w»s "»<>«. «»d the plaintifl thereupon recovered hia money. That was the decision arrived at after the fullest deliberation, after the most mature consideration, and after the exercise of the first constitutional talent in Great Brita,in. The tax was held void, and why was it void? Simply, because the King's seal estapped him from levying such a tax, they were declared void, because he was estopped by the first seal from issuing the 'nbaequent letters pa- lent. My argument, waiohl ahall now com- mence, shall be succmc.ly stated, and 1 shall endeavor to make U a. clear " K««bl«- ^^J wishing to argue logically, I "hall take the Uberty of making two postulates. I "hall de- mand it to bo admitted in the first place that The people of Nova Scotia were never con, -united as to whether they would part with ineir constitution or not. That is the fint postulate, and let any man deny it who dwes. ^ In 1863 the last elections Precedms those of 18th«ept Jiber, 1807, were hold; at that Ume the Canadian Qaebec Scheme was not concocted. Therefore the question of Con- federation was not before the people, and thev did not pass upon it._Now the hon. memuer for InverneaB DcosuiO =2o-i' "'^^ some one for using the term " blacklegs m applied to some of the statesmen of Nova Scotia. I do not like oalUne namei. but it ii 156 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS H.r^i'l"!. ''*.*. i'"" ^"y nftmehai been ap- has said that in that country the term "poli- tioian isiynonymouswith"blaoklee." Aa I laid, I do not like to call names, but it ia impossible to get on without oalline thino-s by their proper terms. How can I otherwile explain what I mean in referring to those Canadian schemers who stealthily concocted wj?;!"a .•^''*.u"^J"S***<"" 0' »•>« people of JVova Scotia-the men who tried by bribery and corruption to jockey us out of our rights. Is the word inapplicable? I think not,-it is the most appropriate, and I say that the men who conducted these practices would be horsewhipped off any race course in England aa blacklegs. Our political knaves arl not entitled, sir. to have such mild language ap- plied to them.-they deserve something worse. There may have been some excuse for the blacklegs of Canada to lay hold of the re. venue of Nova Scotia, but where is the excuse for the statesmen of this Province, who aided and agswted tiose men in destroying the lib- erties of the people ; How shall I character- ize raoh :nen as these? Men who, keeping the people from passing on a subject of such vital consequence to their interests, had the WiQkedness and cruelty in the dark and behind their backs to destroy tbo rights of their oountrymen Political assassins would be the name for them, and when I heard the hon. member for Inverneis mention the name of Judas leoanot I thought the association was discreditable to the celebrated traitor Judas brought back the moncy,-he wai therefore an honest man when compared with tliem._ We will never catch one of those men bringing back the price of his treason. Judas also repented and showed himself a conside- rate man when out of a due regard for the best interests of his country he went and" hanged himself. Those politicians have not the manliness to imitate his ex(i?nple and to commit Buoh an act ofself-inf.. -' iut- "tHpH^*^* ^/,- ®P'»!^"' '" "ny opinion, ine Hon. and Karned member cited the con- duct and languagt of Sir Robert Peel as au- thority. I did not wonder at his doing so, fn» fi5° °°^ '°°'^" *' anything, such amaz- h.ln i/^ ?°°rS?"'^ now-adays, that wonders have ceased. The spirit of amazement died within me when I hoard the hon. member. Who was Sir Robert Peel? He was a great scholar, an Laglish gentleman, a highly edu. cated jnan and an orator, but ho was a "»• IZ^^JJ^^ ^'^^r **5 ^«*''«<* » party s.nd then wheeled ound and joined his adversaries. And are not the gentlemen whose conduct I have been oritioizmg all rats-political ver. m\Li „m" *?"'? ?"^ °^ *'^°'° ''"0 t« his po- litical colors ? I do not no w, of course, refer to gentlemen present. It is said that birds of a feather flock together— animals of somo species 8190 become gregarious, affd it lo wel! ^.f a- « u** 'l?''^ °°' 'J'slike the smell of rat. Sir Robert Peel descended into tb" grav as damaged a ttatesman as was ever cited an prove what nobody ever denied: that the Par- "atnent can do as it pleases. The next position which I take as r postulate 18 that we haveon our Statute book no Statute ratifying or confirming the British North n™?^°*-,.^"''.*'''=''« *^° postulate! T proceed to show that the British Nortl. America Act is unconstitutional and void and in tio manner binds the people of Nova Scotia And I may say that if we had had in our ad- ministration men of high principle-men Having any consideration for the rights of the country, when the Queen's Proclamation made its appearance on the 1st of July, our public property would not have been handed over to Canada, our railroads would be still '?-n"'^ ,^»n<^s, our revenues would have been still collected by ourselves and we should not have had the disgrace of coming practically under the operation of that detestable statute. But the enemies of the country had p»»ed the way for its introduction by puttino- into power just the men to accomplish" their iniquitous design. That is the reason why we are placed under a dominion in which de jure we are not and do not intend to be — My argument is this : in 1713. after a British General had conquered Port Royal, now called Annapolis, which means the city of Anne, the treaty of Utrecht was made be- tween the Queen and Louis XIV, by which the King of F. nca yielded the conquest to ihe Queen of England, and thus Nova Scotia became the absolute property of the Queen, and she and she alone could thereafter leeislate for this country. * The House of Commons had no authority over Nova Scotia then or now. They repre- sent the poople of Engla„J,-not a part of them as was said, for it would appear by the argument of the hon. member that the Cath- olics were unrepresented before the Emanci- pation Acts were carried,— they were always represented, -the House of Commons repre- sents every man, woman and child in the British Isles, even the cattle and horses— everything from the grass upwards. The re* presentation in Parliament is complete and why? Etrause the members of the House of tommcud <• re chosen by the people of Eog. land. But did they ever represent Nova Sco- •* u x^^^^' "'^cause the people of Nova Sco- tia had no voice in their election. Did the House of Lords represent the people of Nora acotia? No; they represented the landed and aristooratical interests of Great Britain, but they never represented the interests of Nova Sootia, and had no power or authority to make laws for us. The whole legislative power was m Queen Anne and her heirs and successors, under the title of Louis XIV. and the arms of the British soldiery. That Le- gislative power seems to Lave been unexer« oised until 1747, when George IL, by his Royal Charte- divested himself of his right of legislation. To the full extent to which tbe charter goes he deprived himself of the power to legislate for Nova Scotia. I do not say that by that act the King's whole legisla- tive power ceased,— all the powers which he did not give he retained, but such as he did cive his seal would not allow »>im to take back, binding him as the teal of anv other liisn 01' any member of this House would, him and his heirs forever. All who are in privity of estate with him are bound and thus Queen Victoria IB bound by it. Having transferred the Leglilative power to the people of Not* - OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 167 he BritiBh North two poBtul»t« T B British NorJL Jntland void tnd »Io of Nova Scotia, ad had in our ad- ^ principle— men r the rights of the 1*8 Proclamation Isl of July, our lave been handed da would be still would have been id we should not ming practically letestablc statute, ry hadp»red the 3y putting into locomplish their the reason why lion in which de intend to be.— 3, after a British )rt Royal, now lans the city of : was made be- XIV, by which the conquest to husNova Scotia y of the Queen, ereafter legislate i no authority ff. They repre- — not a part of i appear by the r that the Cath- re the Emanci- ey were always commons repre- d child in the e and horses — wards. The re- is complete and )f the House of people of Eog. iaent Nova Soo- le of Nova Sco- ction. Did the people of Nora the landed and t Britain, but erests of Nova r authority to lole legislative I her heirs and Jouis XIV. and iry. That Le- been unexer* '«e II., by his f of his right tent to which himself of the 3tia. I do not I whole legisla- ffers which he uoh as he did r '•im to take of any other ise would, him are in privity nd thus Queen ig transferred ople of N0T» ft Sooti* he could not take i^ bw^. The case of HaH TB. Campbell proves that if the King had consequently attenrpted to legu- ^te for Nova Scotia by Utters patent- wSchisthemost solemn deed of the Sove. reiin-the letters patent would have been vofl Now. I oontjnd that when the Queen of England' attempted to legislate for Nova SooTa by Act of P.«Hament, that act is void^ Thi" is an assertion which I °"»ke in the fao« oftheconstitutionallawyers of Europe. If SeQaeen could not sign letters pa ent by Say of legislation, ehe couUl 1;?S«1»<« ^^^ Act of Parliament. The Lords *°d Commons had no part in the matter; what they did was othine -it did not altar the case, for they had no authority over the Und, and never Ha and never will have until we are repre- sented in the" bodies. Wh»t did they dp? They '^erefy sat beside the Queen and assis- ted he?in doing what she had no right to Jo If she had the right to pass that sta- ifuie. Ihe Lords and Commonslmerely assent^ «d As if I. being the owner of a lot ot lana nfeo siiipi;. anf being disponed to convey it, asked you, Mr. Speaker.and .the gentle man who sits beside me, to join m the deed, Sd I wrote it in this form: "This Indenare, made between the Speaker, my hon. friend, Smyselfof theon^part andthepurchase of the other part, witnesseth, .&o. ihe aeea transfers my land in fee simple, but have tLeo her pMties who were joined transferred the title? By no means; the title passes be- cause I, the owner of the land, signed the deed The signature of the others w.b a mere matter of form, and conveyed nothing. And To! if Le Queen of England had had the pow- er when that statute was passed, to \egiBlato for Nova Scotia, and the Lords and Corn- Sons joined her', it would Jf "f y. ^»'f,£° for form's sake; and I wish it to be diBtinot y understood as part of my argument that the Lords and Commons had nofamg to do Tn-'tH this country. The hon. member op- posUe has asserted the very bold proposition ?ha noactof the Imperial Parliament was ever declared void. Here I join issue with hitn. I will show him that statutes of tha Parliament have been, declared void in the most solemn manner imaginable In 1774 or 1775 the Parliament of Great Britain took the liberty to pass a Statute Act and a lea Duties Act to^bind the American colonies. Now let it be borne in mind that it tnose S' had been passed to bind England no nower could set them aside; but when they were passed to bind the Colonies, hose sta- Tutes were declared void because they were void on the principles which I hav« s Uted And who declared themjoi^^Ji^S „. Colonies of America declared them void, as the people of Nova, are now .oedaring the British North America Act ^oid, -the arm- ies of Congress declared then? void,-the Kip - of France declared them ,^oid, and with his army helped to give judgment against the King of England,-the King of Heaven de- olarid them void because they were ymdju truta and justice, iiisiiyf }f,^"J'B~ '"...rw,, himself forced into the humiliating nee ssity of declaring them void by acknowledging the Colonies to be free, sovereign and mdc pend?nt StJtei. In 1783 those itatutes were ffiven up in the most formal manner by. the Khicot- England, and the whole world since hM concurred in the opinion I have stated. No man with any regard 'or his character as a constitutional lawyer would aswrt hat the decision was not a richtone. ^"hat led to Jheereat revolution in" England and the de- .. nultion of Charles I. ?^.Va8 it no the vio- u. ofthe principle which is '.«>lated .^y this«catute? What is the propotjtion which ^ the American people contended for f inai. having a legislature of their own, Jey could he taxed by no other power on earth. Repre- sentation and taxation cannot be separated. Iwithout representation there can he no taxaion On that principle Hampden refus- ed to pay the ship money ,-when , the King said "Give me your ship money." he ans- wered -No, go to Parliament,--that is the only power that can tax me; and 'f JO^^S vour hand into my pocket I wil draw my Xord,'"aBhedid, andhedied ^obly con* trnding for the rights of his country. . (The u.nal hour for recess having arnved the Hou^e adjourned and resumeJ at 3 o'clock, when Hon. Attorney General con- ^'His^discusmng, at the timeof the adjourn- ment the posbibility of an Imperial Btatute b4nc declared void! and I think I had stewn Kc^^fy couolusively tlat a very important imiekl ttxtutehad been declared void by Kdement of the first, courts on earth, and that S Parliament undertook to violate theoonltitution by taxing the People of the ColSwhom they do not represent. th«r ttatutee and legislation may be v id. JNo trinoiplc is so perfectly obvious to the cotu^ mon sense of the House as that if the actsot a Parliament are void, th-^re must be on earth ome td-ounal before which the viciou.ness of «iiph Itiifelat on may be declared. It is very seldom Ihat that great legislature has at- tcmnted to trample on the rights of the Colo- S Us leadin'' oharaoteristio has been S ndU^ess -U hal always extended tL. right hand Of fellowship to us, and has over treated Ss with the uTmost consideration and bene- voknce- but it might possibly on soino occa- lionsbe'tempedto infringe the rights of a Colony -we contend that it has done so on the'rreBfnroocaBion;-that when the Impe- rial Le'slature passed a statute creating a LegisUture in Canada to rul.e over and Ux the people of Nova Scotia, silencing the Le- gislature of this count.ry to a certain exten . denriving the representatives of the people of Novalcotia of certain powers,. and con- ?er?in' unlimited powers of taxation on an x- _ - . . I... it.„ i:..uf .T.-^T.aTiriiiiuiist eeu**»"- !i rxtHieu. Buu iiu'.^ •- ■ — » ... rr ¥"=' ir^K'^d "yr famouT Chitham Siding^the o|pn° Uion to the bills, and every SanToflowinghlm in oppoiition were found I 158 openly .nd pubholy decltriDg the princinle which must be admitted a> found : thSt the CoIon,e« m British America, not being repre- "x d bv i"J/''\'^ P"Iiment,coul^norbe tsxea by that Parliament. What in thn ro. pZnL'^rlr''''' WhaTuParliment'? Farhament « the repreientation of the people of the country who own the Government X whom docg the country it«e]f belong ?T^' «h« Knh?it:d''°^rPfP'«^'^^^^^^ jaw or tne land. Not on y in England hnt Z^cToFTL^''''''''' '^' pp'«" e th source of all power,— every dynasty, everv authority derives its power from the peonle iilZ'nT ^^" P.*°Pl«' " I have faidrown «rvantf ^^T^r^' '^' government are'thdr ? fi«'y f °« pad. had dethroned the here ditary sovereiffn and murdered him and hiH iu dijlh^ 'S'''J?Hf^ * ^'^ ordTof^ing wi.at dij the British nation do? Did thW refuse to treat with the de /acio Vovernment^ No, recognizing the iovereign pfSinha BrltifhT"'"'''' ^'^'''S' ^ ^^ « 'be po.iS tiah Wn^^h i^ Parliament «a regards the Bri, tish North America Act? I have demandVrt that the postulate, that the people wZ not consulted on the question should be admUted -I have demanded also that the poTtulat^ that there is no act of our own legislature to sanction that statute should be, and U is .d! mitted What then has the Imperial PwHt mentdone? Against the will and S' akenfhi^K"^/''' P«°P'« *bat Parliament has taken the liberty, not only of taxing us but ofcausingustobetaxed by another power catn 7thi% '^''T England" on the oc: oasion of the Stamp Act was that thelmnerial Legislature itself had taxed the peopl^Sf the Colonies, without having power and au?hori- curslla mn'nif '""' complaint than that- curs 18 a much more aggravated case. What -e complain of is not that that legisla ure has aitempted to tax u,, but that, what is ten thousand times worse, it has put us into the hands of other Colonies., larger, more popui- ColonfpJ T^ P?''"^'^ '""^ more Sv^agant Colonies-Colonies who have no feelings in common with us, who are alien to us. wd St'L'.l.!^-"" 1° '"y 'beir hand, on u's "J of GrLt R?>"^ ^l^T^^- ^f *be Parliament Of Great Britain had no power to tax us a Jortiori ten thou.and times, it has no power to create a new legislature in any part of The world with that power. What ft has uot it! self It could not confer on oihers. Therefore °°iS;±.^ P"°°?'*" the act alluded L is void -It never was law because it violated the fundamental principles of the CoistitSon tfaJ'^f^oe"" ^.T^"'!^' Invernes. looks ue in tne tdce, and, with an immense amount of assurance tell, us that we are not taxed by a Parliament in which we are not representfd and he asks "Are we not represenWn the tanadisn Parliament?" i .gk wh»t ri^hf had England to create any PrrUaSn to fax us, giving us juit such representation as she though^- proper? Is not our represenfati-on m the Dominion Parliament aninsu tto and a mockery of the people of Nova Scotia? Is ut nn ' ■^"'i 1^" ^°^''' •"''^P* such represen- T '°°.'- *°d be Mtisfied with it. fitforthe Lunatic Asylum? How many representatives have the people of Nova Rcotfa to protlct their interests against the Upper Canadians -against the Frenchmen of Kr Canada- wfi n»nnTu~.'v^„ "" '"icioOerB. wDOie uauieB tak« nn fnf^L^°?° V" "bose elections we MSlaturo we can make no objection ? We have nineteen men also; if t^ey were the latham and the men Washiingtong. the the Hamiltona and I States— men who ared with the pigmy 1 of the existing propriety that no X on the Colonici, ssed legislatures of and exclusive right B. The contest for isful and will be so If these principles ie to see the man what is the position w regards the Bri< I have demanded e people were not hould be admitted, hat the postulate own legislature to 1 be, and it is, ad- e Imperial Parlia* will and without »at Parliament has of taxing us but y another power. ?land on the oc- I that the Imperial the people of the ower and autfaori- 'laint than that- rated case. What lat legislature has i&t, what is ten 8 put us into the ger, more popul- more extravagant 'e no feelings in alien to us, and hands on us and ' the Parliament wer to tax us a it has no power I any part of the at it has not it- fa ers. Therefore lUuded to is void e it violated the le Constitaiion, n a people whom I'nusi looks us in aense amount of '■ not taxed by a lot represented, presented in the «k what right krliament to tax sentation as she p representation m insult to, and ova Scotia? Is t such represen- h it, fit for the representatives sotla to protect iper Canadians ower Canada— B, whoee uauies se elections we urns to the Le- )bjeotion ? We they wero the OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLE. 159 fineBt ilnen evev produced on the face of the Mrth— the finest statesmen ever known— weryone of them as iine an orator and at Mofonnd a politician as the hon. member for Kerness-their arguments would not stop he taxation of Nova Scotia as long as they would be talking. That is .the way in whiob we are represented, and this is the ooniiitu- Uon wfcioh the hon. member for Inverness has been hboring to defend. The people ot Nova Scotia, if they accepted such a constitu- ion, would be t* abject slaves as the people of Turkey, the serfs of Russia, the fellahs of r„vpt— the most degraded people on th« taoe of the earth. Does the hon. member suppose that the people of free Nova Scotia will sub- mit with the certain knowledge that the Sta- tute is void. Why is the Imperial Statute void ? Simply because its preamble is talse. If that preamble were true, no man would be inisne enough to dispute its validity. If the people of Nova Scotia desired Confederation with Canada on the conditKos imposed by That Act, and the Queen of England were willing to confederate us, there would have been nothing impropov or unconstitutional in the Act It would not then have required the interference of the Lords and Commons, because the Sovereign, as I have shewn, was the original legislator of Nova Scotia. If the Queen then had expressed a wtoh to the DeoiJe of Nova Scotia that they should join in a confederation with Canada, and the peo- ple of Canada had assented, and the people of Nova Scotia, on being consulted at the BoUs. had sent to this House a msjonty of representatives willing and »P^iou8 for tho federal union, and a Provincial Statute had confirmed it. the British Statute would have been sound and constitutional. But that has not been the case,— the Act passed against the will of the people of Nova Scotia. It was not simply passed without consulting them, but passed after insulting them, fraudulently, dishonestly, by falsehood, by misrepresentation, by intrigue, by decep- tion, by every species of criminality, which politicians could commit against a country. It was known to the men who went to Log- land on the delegation, that the people did not want Confederation, and that the major- ity of them were opposed to it. Corruptly undertaking to bind the people of Nova Scotia jin that Confederation they went to England and falsely informed the Queen, the Government and the Parliament of that coun- try that the people desired Confederation. A fraud was practised on the people and legis- lature of England to obtain the passage of the Act, and we know that in law there is a very wholesome principle, that "fraud vi. tiates all things." Ever since the com* menceroent of the world fraud has vitiated every human contract and transaction into >yhich it entered. There ncvor has been a man who, having been defrauded out of his rights, would not at the first opportunity re- invest himself with those rights, because ac- cording to the laws of nature and reason, ac- ,;.^. * 1 j„.Mnufi.,«.*m\'''*° oonsulted upon its detail; They should have sent it out with a suopend- ng clause to prevent its coming into opera^ ion until the people had been heard at the polls, and our Parliaments had ratified it clause by clause. They aic chargeable. I say, with negligence in not doing so, and if they are compelled, from the necessity of their -to"ad'.u'.''if''^*''V"^ ^«'"« their step Tmout " '^^ «o«nJness of the arguments which I ac using to-day as to the invaUdity and unconstitutionality of th»( Aot! thcv must gee up in Parliament and slate thai ItlZT ""Tl- I ^"r '"°1» «° opinion of the high«mindedness and integrity of that ad- ministration, that I believe thfy wifl embrwo the earliest opportunity of making reparation to the people of Nova Scotia, whole right" K* M*"2**'^'''*'» *°° much indifference coSh^J^.^.?^''^'''.^'* "^^"^ wl»»t the «S r ^t^}^" country would be if we ac- cepted Confederation 7 We would be ahso utelyatthe disposal of the Canadian ?«: nlZ^v ^^'y ?•" *»^ nnllmitedly the p" ^\i°l Nova Scotia, excepting that they can- not put a tax upon land. They took our raJroads. our fisheries, our public buildings fn It" m"''"^""'. ^"^ ''ere kind enough not to take Nova Scotia itself up to Canada -they Thit wn„^^"l''°l" *° i?*'^« *»^»* exception. That would be the condition of this country; th«„l{^''"^','''°."« **»« Canadians thlt So,?A*°^'°y*i.P''«P'« of Nova Scotia temptation have we to enter into a Confeder. ation with them ? Haa Nova Scotia ever for- EW OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. lei reated NovaSootl* thought he nould I Aisembly. hey ed hii roy»l word >ple ehould have a model o/theBri- and we oommand Ihe House." The Bu«C8— he thoaght )ut the Assembly; 5 command you to »> because we will forfeited." They 1 was the last in- . This is the way it treated in tho«i inieters ol Kiaeta noe 7 I am eorry ice of those great lelievc that, being le of the House of :h to engsge their looking into the n willing to make rial Ministers,— , by persons from istook for eentle- k.sxiouely desired that the scheme concerned. But this observation dant importance, e noblest portion s chargeable wit i ild not have bsen f anv man, but ot of Jnion that of this country upon its details, with a su?pend- ming into opera- leen heard at the had ratified it ra chargeable, I doing BO, and if aecessity of their evise their steps if the arguments the invalidity th»' Act, they : ana state that 3h an opinion of grityofthatad- ey will embrace [king reparation ia, whose rights aoh indiflferenoe. 1 ask what the Id be if we ac- fould be abso- Canadiau Par- litedly the peo« that they can- They took our ublio buildings ind enough not > Canada— they hat exception, f this country; Canadians that 'f Nova Scotia ito a Confeder* lootia ever for- feited her constitution by rebellion 7 Has ihe blood of Englishmen ever discolored her soil? Can Canada give the same answer to those quettions that we can give 7 Did not Canada rebel against the British authority 7 Did not the Canadians slay British soldiers on their soil ? Did they not stope, murder aud mutilate a British ojQBcer wbile in dis- charge of bis duty, and does not the innocent blood of that officer, like the blood of Abel, cry from the ground 7 Does it not loudly warn us to have nothing to do with such men 7 How long shall we be subject to that French popalati n in Canada which has 8te« reotyped itself au a separate natioLality in the Act of Union 7 That is one of the great est follies of the scheme. They have created an imperium in mperio— while ^ower is given to the Canadian Parliament to trample on the rightG of Nova Scotia and New Bruns- wick, the rights of the French Canadians are not to be touched. There is to be a French nation in our midi^t, controlling the loyal people of Nova Sootia. Is there a man in this House who would submit to such an in- dignity 7 I think there are hardly ten men in the Province who would willingly yield to such a degradation as that. In this debate we have been asked a very serious and important question which I shall endeavor to answer. We were triumphantly asked, "suppose when you go to England with your address you fail of success, what then 7" For my own part I see no difficulty in the question. In the first place we will call on the Queen of England, who is thefirst constitutional sovereign on the face of the earth, we will submit to her a statement of our case in which we will shew her that we have a right to have our constitution restor* ed ; and we will ask her to bo pleased to re- cognize the simple unquestionable rij;ht of the people of Nova Sootia to enjoy their inde- pendent constitution as it was before the Act was passed. I know that a number of gab- blers say "the British Government will not do this, that and the other." I am a reason- ing man, and I know that the Queen and her ministers are reasoning people, and I believe that when we have submitted to the Queen the case which I have presented to the public to-day, she will not hesitate to say to the people of Nova Sootia, "you have been most grossly insulted and ill-treated— my ministry have been completely deceived — your consti- tution must be immediately restored." I have no more doubt that such will be Her Majesty's language than that I am address- ing the House. But suppose that insanity should overcome Her Majesty, which God forbid, and that she should say to our dele- gates, "go back to Nova Scotia and tell your people that they have lost their liberties it is true, that they have been made the most ab- ject slaves on the face of the earth, but it is done and cannc be helped." Then, sir, we will go immediately to the Houses of Lords and Commons, we will instruct our delegates to apply there and to employ the first coun- sel in Europe to appear at the bar of those Houses there to advocate the unoonetitution- . « At -L that I referred to in the King's Bench. We may fairly ezpeot % favorable reply to stioh 21 an appeal, for I do not think that the Lorda of Eosland — the high-minded noblemen who dignify the position of spiritual and temporal peers of the realm, will turn a de»f ear to the petition of the loyal people of Nova Scotia. Do you s'jppose tOat they have such thinfn as MoCuUys and Tuppers in that Hou Will that House, which is the embodiment honor, say "pooh, pooh, go back, you havu ?ot liberty enough, the French Canadians will take care of you 7" No, sir; but rising with indignation the members of Parliament will say -dth one accord, "how dare yea, Mr. Watkin, mislead the Parliament of Eng- land by raying that the people were consult- ed at the polls 7 Give your authority for the asiertion." But suppose that the Lords and Commons also became so far infatuated and intoxicated as under any circumstances to refuse to con- sider our rights, what next 7 I will tell the people what next : we will then try the Judiciary of England. I will get some gentle- man to give me a note of hand for £300 sterl- ing without a stamp,— if he refuses to pay the note because it lacks the stamp, I will sue him and take a special verdict setting forth the condition and constitution of Nova Scotia, the Governor's Commission or Charter, the Royal Instructions, the Imperial Statute, — setting forth also that the people of Nova Scotia were never consulted at the polls on the question, and that there is no statute in our Statute book referring to the union; and then if the judges of Nova Scotia place them- selves in such a position that the gates of the Temple of Justice are closed against the plain- tiff in that action by deciding that the note ie not recoverable. I will appeal to the Privy Council, employing there the ablest counsel in Europe to advocate our rights. Poor aa we are we will find the means to have our case thoroughly sifted before that high tribunal, and if that body should decide against ub then we will go to the House of Lords as the highest appellate court in the Empire, and take the decision there of the ablest lawyers in the world. And then, sir, if our noble cause be rejected,! what next 7 Will we rebel against the Queen of England ? No, but when the Queen rebels against us and ab- dicates her authority over Nova Scotia by re- fusing to invest us with our rights, she will discharge us from our allegiance. But the act will be her own and we will be a free peo- ple. I do not wish to see such a state of things, and I hope that it may not occur, bat if it should the Queen of England will have abdicated her Boyal functions as far aa this country is concerned. Protection and allegiance are reciprocal duties,— if we owe allegiance to the Queen it is because she owes protection to us, and if she saffera our rights to be wrested from us. then, like James II, she will have abdicated the throne as far as we are concerned. The British Parliament pronounced that James, having violated the constitutional laws of the realm, had abdicated the throne, and if the Queen should place herself in that position what could we do7 We must then become a republic ur tvushicvcr vincr species or nation- ality we may desire to form ourselves into, and oal! upon the United States to guarantee 162 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS m the liberties of Nova Scotitna, tb" finest peo- gle on the face of tbn e»rtb. The United tates, France, even England herself, Italy, Buiiia, Pruuia or Austria, would readily Boarantee the independance of a country like thie. I have not a shadow of doubt that our liberties would be gaarantped. But if it Were not so, what then? Helpless, unable to protect ourselves against the surrounding oations, oast off by our rightful sovereign, rejected by her Parliament, destitute of any assistance from abroad we should have to yield to the inexorable decrees of fate; but we should do so with dignified resignation. Vfe should then wrap around us the mantle of onr rejected loyalty, our despised patriotism, and our injured and insulted rights, and if we mutt succumb to irrcsistable necessity, we will sink as Csesar fell beneath the dag- ger? of assassins at the base of Pompey's statue. The House adjourned. Fhiday, Feb. 21. The House met at 11 o'clock. A call of the House was had, and the Re- peal resolutions and amendments thereto were taken up. On the resolutions being put to xhe House, the answer was in the affirmative. It was moved that the vote be recorded in the Journals as unanimous. Mr. Blanchaei. said that this was the first time he had ever heard of a member of the majority moving tor a division under such oiroumstanoes. As the Speaker was aware— the voices decide and not the names. In the present case the voices had decided, and the House could not go beyond that. There was only one way gentlemen could have a divi- sion, and that was by some one bplonging to the nuajority calling " no " when the ques« tion was put; but whoeveT did so would be obliged to vote lor the nays when the divi- sion took place. Hon. Sfbaeeb said that the question had been put and decided in the affirmative, and now it was asked that a division be taken. He did not care to take the question in that way, unlbLd it came from the minority. Par- liamentary rules were made for the minority and not for the majority— in f*ct, they were intended to protect the weak. He would nbw, however, order that the vote be entered unanimously. Mr. BtANCHABD would of course submit to whatever course the Speaker might adopt, but he would at the same time respectfully urge that no vote be entered unanimously except with the consent of the whole House. Hon. Spkakee said there were no negative voices, and therefore it was competent to en- ter the vote unanimously. He explained again, in answer to Mr. DesBrisay and others, that it was unparliamentary to take a division unless gentlemen answered " no " when the question was put. Mr. Blanohasd again contended that the votd could not be made unanimous p'^f.fi'^t b" general consent. "' "' ^ ' " ' Hon. Spsaebb replied that silence gave oonwnt, and the voices were unanimoas. Mr. MoBBisoN said the hon. gentleman was at last convinced on *.he question of Re- peal. Hon. Speakeb hoped that gentlemen would not bring up such matters. Mr. Blanohabd did not require the mem- ber for Colchester to teach him his duty. The following clauses were added unani- mously to the ordinal resolutions: Resolved. That the Imperial Parliament hava uo constitutional power to authorize any Governor Gen. eral, or any guhject of the Queen, to make Senators or create any portion of tho Legitlature With power to tas the people or legislate for them without aa Act of our tefjiBlature aulhorzinu them to do bo /?eso/t>«d, That the statement made made by Mr Watkin, as reported in the debates of the Hsnie of Commons for 1867, that the Bubject wab broupht under the notice of the people at every polling plac3, H at variance with the truth. '-i •» »i After some further remarks, .u^A^i.- ^i^-.THOop said that he would move tnat the following gentlemen be appointed a oommittee.- the Attorney General, the Pro- vincial Secretary, DesBrisay, White, D, Mc- • °.°'ir~;!'' prepare an Address to Her Ma- jesty the Queen in accordance with the reso lutions. He need not say after the very lengthy debate on the question, it was a satis- faction to know that the House had unani- mously sustained the resolutions laid upon the table by the Hon. Attorney General. Af- ter a fortnight's discussion the House found the amendments abandoned, and the journals recording an unanimous vote in favor of the original resolutions. Mr. Blanchabd would not allow the hon gentleman to state without contradiction that the amendments had been abandoned. On the contrary they were entered on the jour- ° n ' *'*i ^® *°"^ ^'^' friends were content ,u .R: ^^'^^- ^^^^- of»gratulated the }Ionso that the Opposition had bern converted bv :ne resolutions. Mr Blanchabd thought the majority could aaord to be a little generour, and not make such inconsiderate statemen's. It was not correct that the resolutions had been carried unanimously. «""<:u The subject then dropped. Mr. Feeeman moved that certain papers connected with the expenditure on a bridge at Liverpool be plaoed in the hands of the committee on over-eipenditures of public moneys. i'«v,no Mr. Rteeson presented a petition from the trustees of Section No. 2, Yarmouth, in refer- ence to the school law. Mr. CocHBAN, a petition from Jeddore. on the school act. Peov. Sect., a bill to legalize proceedings of the sessions of Digby. Mr. Blancuaed called attention to the fact that a large number of bills to incorporate Mining companies— involving an expenditure in the Province of at least $100,000— were laying over, to the great inconvenience of capitalists. A number of bills to legalize cer- tain county proceedings were also waiting the action of the House. If these matters were delayed much injury to the public interests nSiEui result. Hon. Aott. Genl. said that the policy of the Government was such as to render it im- possible to proceed witk s«oh legislation. ps hon. gentlemkn B question of Re- \ gentlemen would •equiro the mem- bim his duty. ire added unkni- utioDs: ParliameDt l)avd uo i any Qovernor Qen- to make Senators or ture With power to m without aa Act of to do 80. made made by Mr. leg of the Hsnie of 5t wab brought under polling placB, Ig at :8, he vould move 1 be appointed a leneral, the Pro- . White. D, He- iress to Her Ma- le with the reao after the very )n,itwaBaaatiE- )UBe had unani- tioDs laid upon ey General. Af- he House found and the journals I in favor of the allow the hon. ntradiction that abandoned. On d on the jour- irere oonttnt. ilated the }Ionso n converted by B majority could ir and not make '8. It wai not lad been carried certain papers re on a bridge he hands of the iires of public stition from the nouth, in refer- )m Jeddore, on ze proceedings tioB to the fact to incorporate »n expenditure 5100,000— were convenience of to legalize cer- Iso waiting the e matters were labile interests it the policy of } render it im- egislation. OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. m Hon. Mr. Robkbtson said that there was no intention to acknowledge in any way the existence of the British North America Act until the question of Repeal was settled. Mr. NoETHUP, a petition from Musquodo- boit for money. Hon. Mr. Flynn, a petition from Protes- tant inhabitants of Arichat in connection with Eiuoational matters. Mr. YouNO, a petition for money on a road. Mr. CoFEtAND, a petition on the same sub- ject. ' Hon. Mr. Tboop, a bill in amendment of chap. 123 R. S. in reference to the proceed- ings of Supreme Court at Annapolis and Digby. Mr. KiDSTON presented several money peti- tions for seed oats, ana for roads. The House then adjourned. Battjeday, Fsb, 22. The House met at 3 o'clock. Mr. BiiAKCHAsn reported from the Com- mittee on Humane Institutions in part. Hon. Attoeney Gbneeal reported from the committee to whom the matter had been referred an Address to Her Majesty the Queen on the subject of Confederation. Mr. Blanchabd said :— Before this Address is adopted I would like to mak^ one or two remarks. A week ago, yesterday, the At- torney General brought before this House two resolutions, whicb, he said he proposed to add to the original resolutions. Now I have no intention to refer to what occurred within closed doors, but this I do say, that the Address is not founded on the resolu- tions as adopted by this House, one of which was to this effect : "The Imperial Parliament has no constitutional power to authorize the Governor General or any subject of Her Ma- jesty to make Senators or create any part of the Legislature with power to tax the people or legislate for them without an Act of this Legislature authorizing them to do so." Now this resolution is fallacious. The Act authorized Her Majesty the Queen by her Royal Proclamation to appoint the Senators, and Her Majesty did so last July. Now let me ask the Attorney General by what authority the Governor appointed five Legis- lative Councillors. Was it the Governor General ? Hon. Ahy. Geneeai— No. Mr. BLANCHAEp-^It was, then, the Execu- tive Council with the Lieutenant Governor. Where did they get their authority ? Under the Union Act? The Governor derived his authority under that Act. I can now well understand that the Attorney General with- drew this resolution; he saw he made a mis- take. I regret that the crowning absurdity of these resolutions has not also gone across the water. I must also say that it appears from the Journals that the resolutions passed unanimously ; I now take this opportunity of declaring deliberately that this is not cor- rect; it may be correct theoretically but not practically. I objected to the vpte being so recorded at the time. I must aho make an- other observation, and that is, I find the paid orgsA of the Government declaring most ex- plicitly this morniog that I withdrew my amendmeuij. I cannot conceive bow any man sitting in the gallery would go to his office, and send forth to the cauntry a state- ment so utterly untrue. Hon. Atty. Gks. — I would observe in re- ference to the remarks respecting the misre- presentation the hon. member complains of, that he is not the only person who has reason to complain, for I have not read in any one of the Union papers— and it is not often, I confess, that I read them— a single truthful statement of anything that I have done. I merely rise, however, for the purpose of cona tradicting a statement or two made by the hon. member. He is mistaken when he sayi that the Imperial Act does not confer the power upon the Governor-General to appoint tieuiitors. It states, after the first batch have been appointed, the Governor- General shall summon — his summons is the same as the Queen's. The first batch are appointed by the Governor-General, with the approval of the Queen. But did he actually appoint that first batch 7 They could not have been ap- pointed, for be bad never heard of them. The hon. member also referred to the Legisla- tive Councii) irs] appointed in this Province. It would be difficult to say who made them; that appears to be something of a State se* cret. It is not very creditable to the manu> facturers, whoever they were. I will tell the hon. member that by the constitution of this Province, through the instrumentality of his friends the Governor- General has nothing to do with the appointment of the Legislative Councillors. Mr. Blanchabd- The first six were ap- pointed by the Queen, and hold their com- missions under the Royal Sign Manual. Hon. Atty. Gen.— The usual practice is for the Lieutenant Governor of this Province to nominate to vacancies in the Council. This nomination requiree the Queen's approval. With regard to the last appointments, that transaction was decidedly illegal, for it does not appear to us that the Governor has any right to do anything without his Council. Mr. Blanchabd— I am glad to take this public opportunity of exonerating myself and the Government with which I was con- nected of all connection with the appoint- ments in any manner. I am glad also to re- mark upon the despatches laid upon the ta- ble on this subject. These despatches more than insinuated that these appointments had been made on the first day of July, and after the late Government had entered into power. I undertake to assert in the face of this coun- try most solemnly that on the 1st of July, when these books came into our possession, these appointments were in them. The Gov- ernment to which I belonged bad no more to do with them than the Atty. General himself. More than that, I assume no responsibility whatever in connection with these appoint- ments. They were made by our predecessors and the Lieutenant Governor gazetted them afterwards on his own motion by the advice of the Council which preceded us. Now the Attorney General knows that the power to make such appointments did not rest in the Lieutenant Governor formerly, but in the Lieutenant Governor under Royal inatruo- 164 f ■ Governor General w»s "''' ."""""I'Mion to the ■ay in point of U* ♦Ko r " 1 inaertake to of Nova^SootU foT w.nh^-'"."' Po'ernor iii Coanoil neither IIT "^"""-""'ioni. and these .ppoiStmem; Th«o„P°''" *^ "»''« Md hi» CounoiT though Mf^°'""°'' ^«°«"1 to the Hoaee fot an Act o a"!."'*'"^ i"* *.PP'y tenant Qo,erno« ^.I^IK tC'"'' '""^ ^'«"- q.Son't^h^e^^s^.MieSnratl^he^'Sn'''''''^'" had withdrawn hisamendmVn* r ' °""^^" the editor nuhi.),.- ^ *"? ^*^ ™oved that .h.tTil?!d\?e1^tra^;?o"E3°;f'tYe^'^^f men in the majoritv «mi h ■ ' "°'°*' &«°t'«- bot the SpeK deddinl fhl'/^u^ ** '^*''«'°°. order one^'undeMtfiuVsrce^ ^"^^'^ "°* rest'ctVo^Kce^Lla^r '""^ ^-"P""" - inhabii^If iTgby ti'aiSr./r 'T ''' the lioenee law *S»'ns«^ «n alteration in to^^iJj;:;xSgt^'*'--«^-oe several «oney petitions forS^| -Soat" pilots. ^®° ^° the examination ot rett^i.^Sti'l't?;'^ *^^ Government for » berland "* ^^olohester and Cum- lo?h°o^S„^."'i_;'5,"';'. P-«P««'l to reply DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGW W?Jmo?th''2"n.TC".**'* ,• P'titlon from theSohool Law "^ """^ »»>"«• 1" do?e'a^n5''fr"orM'*''^ Petition, from Jed- roads °°' Mu,quodoboit respectbi The House adjourned. Th„ tr MoNDAT, Feb. 24. Ihe House met at 3 o'daok. THE INTERCOtCNIAL HAHWAT would Mk.f fho ^'''°e been given. He >ear lor ail time to oomn Tha f.;- . acquiesced in it. The objection made to the LoodoiKierey. Sobinutnt, boW.fer ?„ tij Mr. iVlrignTCAxT o:^ Ai.-i. aehoitB. The Nova Sootlana had now to sub. OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. ed • petition from materUl change in petition* from Jod» odoboit reipeoting MoNDAT, Feb. 24. lack. I- RAILWAY. Qtroduced a regoln- hould Nova Scotia ioherconBtitntional kw»rd in perform- Interoolonial Rall- ied ilia surpriac* at iportant a oharac- enod of tlie session g been given. He were preoared to i^ould commit tlie ,000 or £30.000 a The fair propor- d be 3i twelfths, I and his friends, •lied that the Qov- e people that they e construotion of That -t wo-ild be nerative was pro- k large nuniber of I Scotia generally the progress of t had moved the since Mr. Howe on, we had built iced the Annapo- I if we got repeal pense that would ion of the Inter- d rather remain 3i-12ths of the )ur fair and jnst ever this House y were not bound the fair propor- n the agreement :hehon. member same side, and on made to the lid have to build pro' , oe. Now «t wc ild beone- rri the worli to lowever, to the had contracted with the Pictou the House then •ay 3J-12thB of the iijoney re- *nd education d, under all the House on the 5W tuc greater province went • pay Canadian ftd now to aab< 165 mit to an additional duty of 5 per cent., and yet the Intercolonial Railroad had not been built, the Northwest Territory had not been purchased, nor any additional fortifications erected. He for one would cheerfully build the railway to Riviere du Loup, if that would get us out of Confederation. Mr. PuBDY advocated the construction of our railway to meet the New Brunswick lines, and thus gif e us connection with the railways of the United States and Canada, and stated that repeal would not stop the building of that important link from Truro to connect as aforesaid. If we had control of our rev- enues we would have ample funds. The Tup- per government had put that portion of the road under contract two years ago, and it should have been built now. Last July the same company that is now building the An- napohs railway offered to build that section for a subsidy of $112,000 a year for 20 years, but was refused. Tupper needed it then for an election cry. It could be built on our own resources, and he was glad to find the gov- ernment giving a pledge; Mr. DesBbisay was in favor of the reeo- lution; he looked upon the question as it ef- fected the whole people. They would rather P»y^or the Intercolonial Railway without Confederation than retnain in it and have the road. Mr. RYEH30N said that be wished to show England that the people of this Province were prepared to build iheir fair proportion of the Intercolonial Railway if Repeal were granted. He did not think it would cost as much as some Huppocsd it would. No doubt if they got rid of Confederation they would have no difficulty in performing their iust share of the work. Mr. BtANCHAED said that v at he partiou« larly objected to was that a matter of «o much importance should be treated so summarily. The House should know where the n.'^ans was to come from if Repeal were granted. They could not build the road at a leas sum than he had previously statei. Canada had now given us $500,000 more than she had re- ceived, and therefore the remarks of the hon. member for Colchester were exceedingly ill. timed. Under Repeal a 15 per cent, tariff would not pay even the ordinary expenses. He undertook to say that the revenu this year would bo $300,000 deficient compared With that of the previous year. The Tupper Government entered into a contract at the rate of $112,000 a year for 20 years, that too, for a road which would belong to a com- pany. The party with which he was con- nected at the time had opposed that policy. The company in question, however, were unable to carry out their agreement. Sub- sequently a bogus company offered to con- struct the road at the same rate, but it wbi not deemed advisible to let them have the line. He was not willing to let St. John be the terminus of the railway, and therefore ho opposed the policy of the Government. Hon. Phov. Sec. was surprised to find the hon. member for Invi^rnrs" s.f*^r v-*— :— :^ h^s'r such a warm advocate of the Intercolonial Railway, coming forward and finding fault With the Government for having brought down ft resolution to build our fair and re«- ■onable share of the road. The fair and jut proportion would be, he added, whatever the House should decide. Mr. Landers said that he would of the evils chose the least. It was better, he thought, to bni! i a fair and reasonable share of the railway tree from than under Confede- ration. ;.I ". PxNEo would not vote for the resolu- tion because he conceived it to be the part of the systematiii policy of deceiving the people. If it could not be built under Confederation with a tariff of 15 per cent, it certainly could not be constructed if Nova Scotia was left isolated, and obliged to bear by h jrself all the heavy burthens that she would necessarily have to bear. Mr. KiDSTON supported the resolution on the ground that if we are to have the road, it would be preferable to pay our chare r' its construction entirely free from the Co.ifed* eration. Mr. Landebs explained that he would vote for the resolution because it would facilitate repeal. On a division the resolution was carried by 27 to 5. ' Feas— Ferguson, Northup, Ryerson. Mor- rison, Cochran, Purdy, Dr. Murray, Dickie, Eisenhaur, Freeman, Smith, f lumbers. Roa, Kidston, Kirk, J. McDonald, ioung, Flynn, Lawrence, Copeland, Lioders, DesBrisay, Robertson, Johnson, Baloam, Attorney Gen- eral, Provincial Secretary. JVays — Blanchard, Townsend, Doucett, Dr. Brown, Pineo. Hon. Mr. Robebtson laid on the table the Report of Hospital of Insane. VOTE OF CEEDIT. Hon. Peov. Secretary laid on the table the Mines and Minerals Report. He also moved a resolution authorizing his Excel- lency the Lieutenant Governor in Council to advance such sums from the treasury as may be required to carry on the necessary public business until the next meeting of the Legis- lature. Mr. Blanchard said that he understood thd House would adjourn until next August, and in that case the Government asked the House to give them full power to make any expenditures they choose for a year. It would not have taken the Provincial Secre- tary twelve houTB to put on the table an es- timate of what the public service requires. Hon. Prov. Secy, said that it was impossi- ble to satisfj' the hon. member under any cir- cumstances. The Government were obliged to pursue their present course, on account of the peculiar circumstances in which they were placed, and would be prepared, when the House again met, to justify every dollar of expenditure they might make. Mr. Smith said that a similar course had been pursued, not long since, in Canada by Sir John A. MacDonald. Mr. Blanchard said that the people ought to know deuniiely what iaey isight expect for their roads and bridges, education, &o. The Canadian Government were about inau« gurating a new state of things at the time referred to by the hon. member for Queens', ■"«f**M 169' I the neoei«U-fortheooarMthej •nd boioe partaed. •djouraed!'"""" thenp«sed,.nd the Hou.e TuKSDAT, Feb. 25. The Home aat tt 2 o'clock. lueSa.trXw^^I''^-'-'^'' '"0 re.o. constitutional riehtflann -1'. '"PectinS tho people of this pJ^J/noe '^""''^" °* ''^^ aideration of the feelLcs of th?. ?t ''''°''"; SSI'S'- --=S ^^Uratlon nr^" ^^''^ "« °o* *o accept any siieration or amendment of such Ant- I^^ harfmi.;^^"- Q«N«K^i.8»id tie Government o^>Tatet'?^^^*;[--,X^wS did not consider it nece«aryTa'So*into^ *"* DEBATES AND PROCEEDINM ihStTe'i^ni?'**'"'*'- ^"»t 'he intention another ^ '*" '" ""'«'"> ^"h one Mr. BiANcnAHD complained th ■ i ernment should have laid tJ -o, the table at .0 late a perio-. «,,.;: the members had gcae. rt ' he ri.^ theeveofleavingirhoL'e. 't V.' ™p.ff 1^®, ""/'"<'« hitherto i. ,.». fore the House rose, and i.ia men.. - li- iOT- £c le on '•/Jie of were <^n always lovern- ks be- of the 'nd form nr. THE HOAD GBANT. w *uo roaa grant; be was ignorant of respective counties could ?o or ♦heir road scales. Hon. Atty. Ge-veral reni ' u- n ernme„t had been obliged ?o pursue the r?"!." rti°i'-^°'«--^'^«Sv^"^S'^ Hnn ^2'"°°"'°' '■* ^*°ide for them the stereotyped scale ^" "°' ^*"' '° '"^e Mr White wished to know if it w« .i,- only increase the amount when thf^H^ dfs" rd""'' -"l4Vb'/?oo tppy"to ad%«cef' gh^'an5tf^:5,T^"*\*''^''^« at the disposal of 'if Ho"^3 'f^?"r^ ^/"fi bridges were necessarily heavily burthened ■ion hir h* °™"?» "»l«' "«t til. diri- taoie tor the information of the House anf? onlhe^rubiec? arth*^' "°r'"^ any rSt"a previous hIv' " "'*^ "solution passed on the Siey'requir'ed^ ^"'^ '"""^ *" »*»« ""^tborit; -J^ff^ _^ORiHDP asked if the Governoj.nt. Whew there had h?* ''"'^^' ^° those counties u ?, ^ laa been an over-exDendifnm Hon. PBoy. S«ox.^Certainl"?bey Sd. It the iotectio.n ed for the ro»6'. theaever»l mem- i not know »ay- «8 expcoteU that UD180D wi(h one 1 fiat the aubdi« members of the d <^ .^ iOT. ' "'^--■-. .vc le on »f .Cr. ^,MB of • 09 xej;. were qn 't 'i«.t alwayi '" tlip lovern- »»■ ^ ;k( be- neni. :, of the ' o' »nd form ' ■ khe Qov- urnne their pre. of the uDURual ereut members fves it would be or them, ne should oer- lemUers to looJi lot fair to take ' if it was the to adopt the 'pportionment I that it was le Government at they would If they could 'n the House too happy to ent had made noe the funds >r roads and 7 burthened. i should have littee on the r the purpose Jsting to the ler. lat the divi- had been for 9 in his ooun- iacke, and it to construct ir disposal, ose counties money last ;h this vear. re was a cer- '0 had been ' that would jrnmcnt, he scale on the House, and C resolutica iBsed on the e authority (overnment. se couaties adituro. ey would. THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. Hon. Spbikeb laid thtt in hit connty the over-expenditure exceeded the preien. crant three times over. «& h**^°K*"°K "^'^ i'','*' '° Colchester. 50000 had been borrowed for two years, un- ♦k/Lwu ^?l ""l,^^^ Lfgiolature. He did not think that the Government had any disposi- tion to hold that amount. Hon. Attt. Genl. replied that that was an- necesiary; the money was borrowed under statute, and on certain conditions. Mr. MoHRisoN said that one of the late members had laid out $1000. which he must repudiate. He did not think that the facx of \". ^'^ rnnninjf through a particular oounty did away with the necessity of laree grants on main roads. Hon. .ITT. General said that the lato mem- «'fnno°'' ^iu'""^ obtwncd authority to borrow ^JOOO on the credit oi the road money for subsequent years. They had left this inheri- Unce behind them, which he intended to re- pudiate as far as possibk. Mr. White would take another opportuni. ty of objecting to the apportionment. Hon. Atty. Genl. laid that the Govern- ment had determined to put at the disposal of the people $100,000 for roads. He expect- ed that the several members would return to their respective counties, and see into the condition of their roads and bridges, and will then apply for the expenditure of the money by commission. When the House met again they woold be able to know more about the condition of their public finances, and see whether more money could not be given to the road service. Mr. Blanchahd said that the House had "®M ' ^rr' ^"° "''•^ *° »e"e on a road scale. M;. KiDSTON did not approve of the basis of the proposed road scale; the grant for his county was quite insutBcient. In reference to a matter of discussion on a previous d«y he explained that he had never understood' that a conversation between himself and a public ofiBcer (Mr. Woodgate) on a public matter co"H be considered " private," and that the p^ /al matters in question chiefly in- terested the County of Victoria. Mr. NoETHup presented the petition of W V. Archibald, of Muequodoboit, to sell an jld meeting house, and a bill in accordance with the prayer thereof. Hon. Mr. Robehtson moved the adjourn- ment of the committee appointed to try the question of the disputed seat for Inverness until the 10th of August next. Mr. Landees presented a petition from An- napolis for aid towards a road. Mr. Blanchabd hoped that the Govern- ment would not forget to support the steamer plying between Port Hood and Piotou. He presented a petition signed by Dr. Cameron, and very many others in Inverness, who are desirous that the Government should consider a matter so important not merely to one county, but to all Cape Breton. List ye%r. in conjunction with his colleagues, he had asked the Government to expend a oonsider- ft...ft ?T!n5 of s-Gsey In impfoviag ihc|Toute between Whycooomagh and Port Hood— a route now much travelled during the summer tn'^-ths. 167 Mr. PuHDT iBtrodaoed a bill to amend Ivhap, 45 of the Revised Stttatu. •• Of County Assessment." He wished to rqualiie the astessment. so that it will not bear so heavily upon the aericnltnral portion of tb« population. Mr. Rtehso.v asked the Government if they were prepared to make the survey x)( the road from Annapolis to Digby, and tbenoe to Yarmnutb, during the recess Hon. Attobnby Ohneral replied that the Government would give their attention to this subject at the earliett period. Hon. Prov. Sec said that it was only due to the Wettern people that the ro*d should be surveyed and built at the earliest period practicable. T ^'- ^^^I^ presented a petition from the Indians of Esoasoni asking for seed oats and potitoes. , Mr. Blanohahd prepented a petition pray. ing thfct no important change be made in the Education Act. Mr. Rykbson presented a petition from Ar- gyle for seed oats, potatoes, and barley ia the spring. ' Hon. Pbov. Secektaet presented a peti- "on Jnfavor of the present School Act. Mr. Blancharb introduced » b'Uto amend Chap. 44 of the Acts of 1867. **,r- P?B»Tf introduced a bill relative to the qualihoations of persons holding commissions as Justices of the Peace. """iiiiions The same gentleman moved a resolution in favor of voting by ballot. TnE ADJOUENMENT. Hon. Attobnet Gbneeal moved that the House do adjourn until Thursday, the 6th August next, at 12 o'clock. Mr. Blanchabd argued that it was entire ly unconstitutional for the Government to have asked only one branch of the Legisla- ture to adop the resolution giving them con- trol, of public expenditures until the House again met He read from the Journals to show that in 1854 and 1861 the House h^ been adjourned for several weeks, and that in both oases resolutions in connection with the public expenditures were passed by both branches. Now it appeared to be the policy of the Government to ignore the upper branch entirely in every particular. Such a course of procedure was entirely unconstitutional fi?.^?^«^ °°' be justified. It was for the first .ime he or any other person had heard S nwn^'""'' ?/-i^?'' Legislature acting on Its own responsibility m the di^bursemeni of the public moneys. Constitutionally the Le- gislative Council should be asked ta concur !!««S *" "l\f °'" "'l purposes the resolution passed on the previous day was negatory The Government were establishing a daneer- ous precedent-one that could nol bej-usti- ♦,^°°" ^""^- ^,^^^f^^ replied that the coun- ♦f.?^ S^??",. P'""*** 'P * '"y unpoual posi- tion. This Province had never before been fi h^? •*** i° ^% fu°'^ ^y ""^^ ^ho pretended tobefriendn of the Deonle. Kn- ».„ V:"-." leil the hon. member "that he and "iiii" friend, had so crammed the upper branch as to in- dent impossible for the Government to ex- pect »ny uaiitknoe of Bupport from it -:m' X 'X 168 ^m ml •'t h! h.^*f ?°» """"«^ J"!' argument f t aU H«.,«^ l"^ •*''*° *'" Propolition that fhe Home had no authority to authorize tht Het\^^*^S^'»'r''"'«'^»»'« public E^^^^^ He then went onto gpeak strongly in resDent to the mode in which Con federal LLTh«n be'founrnBi^.W''- ^o JSenuS 'd ue round m Britnh America, he sairl fm. ♦!,« co«r« pursued in reference VthecoSfiS! DEBATES .-..ND PROCEEDINaa tion of Nova Scot?*.- .«-» the hnn ™<,»t. nueg at the disposal of the Government at f; Xt t'i^^\"'r "°''^'"^°^ Thicoun! m'fthf H •' ^''P?'* '^«° the Government H;..t ^^^^J^^y econon.--cal!y aud judiciously diaohareed the trust reposed io them ^ Mr. BiANCHARo said that the resolution in ened "^'^'^ ^"^ "S»°>ent was strength- nexf.^ House then adjoorned until 6th August \k d until 6th August ,„. „ • ^^"KSDAT, August 6, 1868. Ihe House met at 12 o'clock. yesterday, had i To \ '°!^;i„Sr^ appomt a committee of sevenl^„ ^Itll proceed with leStion of «nt ''^'■'^^"* *« iiiifil oft«,. t».„ 'T«5'''"*'30" "I an; consequenne. uuti alter the important -nicsf oh of rni,»U eratiou wt^ determined, ' he ^v„„kl ask ht House to adjm.rh to Monday „t 3 o'dock '^" o'clSk ^"^^ "'*'" a.ljonrned to Monday at 3 OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. MONDAV, August 10, '868. i lie Hoiwe met at 3 o'clock. CONFEDERATION. wncrea hy the Government iini)erativG to niov<, a resolution entering a protest agS any Jc fetslatiye action that the House niight te ,lt posed to take, being cons.i-ued i,2fm h^JZ' oenccol Oonfedenition. Witl.ouU rthcr nre" ambi« he would move .he following ""Zii;^:; tVhereasit appeal's from tlic Uespafoh of oj state Joi the Colonies, bearing date the 4fii June hist, that Her Majesty's Goi.™,timvo relused to ente.-tain the request of tlii^ Ho ,se unanuuousi, expressed in an addmi to t1?: ScotT' J"f "^ '}"^' *''« l'>-ovince of Nova ..,f be J-^-lefl^ed from the operation of the act coiiledemting the Pi-ovuices of Cam , Nova Scotia and New Brunswick- ' ™ J?*-uM?';*''« ^^^^ ^«"»e, impressed with iu resnonmbih'des to the people tUy remlsen fcefsiseU called upon, iV, ti.e interoK u fe' Couifiy to adopt such measures of legislat on asniav be necessary to incite Uk) intSS the SftwT " ™l"«^-''"«'»t "^nd amendn^ent of Resolved, tliat in proceeding to coinidor thr. ■af; S T/""''"'^' "V^"^ P-^entXtoof * ■ lurs, this Jfouse emphatically declares that luiyl'Hve iH-e ., and ai-e, kept un,l,.r t e ac of ContecU>ration, by coerci.a of the hrmovWi ZfTr' ^"''° ''"-^^ '^*""'^«l to se them free sa,vlS;";vTrl'''*^''"'""g^» P"«« "" ""'^s.' saiy laws this Hous'j records its solemn protest fh^T ^T""- '^•'^ERAf' HaW tliat he would at the same time stat« that in a lew .lays the Gov ei-nment would be prepared to indicate tTe course ol action they int^r.ded U, pu.-sue ,f.^ 'n'^"*'"' "*^^' ^"'la.ichai-d the rosolu- tion was allowfld t« M^ <. . ,»,„ »„ki- i ''^''"»"- notice, ■ ' ^^^"^ ^'y ^™y "1 i'i 169 ♦„??2" *''■; "^"^^^ »^'^ that the only obicction to letbng the resolution Ue on the' tabic T«^ that ,tsho,jld stand recorded in the Jour^b beloretiieti-ansaction of tmy legislatives^ ua2 ITJii'^T'^r'^': tlie resoluUon sK t«ite x.v,ni the day of its introducUoq. MISCELLANBOUS, Hon, Atty. General introduced a bill to Co^'Toa'wi.'i""^'** ^"'"" Oold^Mhiing ^o. , also a bill to incorjiorate the WestUk* Sr(^ol7f'' ^^ " '^'^ ':" ineornoiHte thelSZ i-fel Gold Company ; also a bil^ to incomomt. he Onent Gold Mining Company; S^a ™S iLiSrc,;.^^ ^^'-^ "^- «SS ply to the Address of the House, and several ac- companying paj^ers. ""several ac- Hon Prov. Secv. laid on tht, uble a renort from Mr. McNab, Chief Engineer of I^ilwavs in reference to St. Pef^r'r, C^nal ^"^^^s. LSevpi-nl hilla ;r.«,.«,i 1 L-n ■ .. hevei-al bills introduced ^«fore the adjourn, nient pas,« 1 a second i-eading. •" fronfw,-m*"" ^y.<^""A.N presented a petition neZuS f ™ ^'"«' ''^ ^^'^'"'^ I^ke,«skingcom pensationfor damages sustained by a grant ownfi miproperly issued. * Mr. Blanchari) presented a petition for a party who complained that a grant of a water o had »,een given for the watf r in front Se whart property in Halifax wliich she had been possessed of for a long period. He thonlf tho^ Homc control should U ex.rdsed in retrench to grants of water pri^iloges in the City. ' J Ion Mr. Cochran pi-escnte* a peUtion from Thomas Walsh audothere of MeSS Grant about a School division ^ A u ^'i?/- ^'^'^'"^'- presented a petition of ,^.!:,^'T^-^''T''^ '■"'•«'■'' '" P'-hlishinga LTiled ap ol Nova Scotia. The pjtiUon wts refmS to the government. *cieirea t;^^"' !^.^^'\S«A«» asked for papers in connec- anJ|.s:s^^sSi^ssryrr ci-n du^trict of Queen's County, for a gmiT of money to aid in erecting a^-hool ifo^«e in place of one parti.dly ereftcd iS burS Mr Chamhers iiresented a petition irom a Physician of Colchester County pra^ff muu nTI?^ attendance on sick ll^di;!^"'^ "" oJ ?■ u"^- f'*:NERAL introduced « bill in amend chap. 60 of the Acts of 186f in reference to the appointment of n Stipendiary MaSmVe Aeoabmt?"''*'''? *r-''« town'oTTS. StLfnfn. • "^ .?'"""' '''"'P- ^^ «t' tlie Revised if a hinVyf-"'*"^^ *^ ^''■'^ «"'! Firewardens Min nl / ^^"'«"'-P«™to the Giadstoiie Gold Mining (.'ompany, ^ ""' Rt?o'c"o^r"''-*"'""°!i!i""' '■""°^^'«« ''"^ TUESO.IY, A'igUStll. The House met at 3 o'clock,. MISCELLANEOUS. ion rnMAf- '"^^/-P^'-ate the ITniackeand Uii- ion Gold Miiung Company, the Western rr,,r, P'".'^- the Ijnpcrial Gold Mining Coril",y'-" he Onent Gold Minimr Comnar- ♦..„ lil"^-'-"'^. «tone MmiDg Company ^«ere read a fi«,ond :f: t ■ '170 •,ri iimo and refened (o committee on Private and L(x«I Bilk ; also the. bill to legalize thf n,^ ' ceedmgs of tl,e Digby sessions • aL^o tf.^ wif?" incoi^jomte the Sc^a Gdd Minit (^^fn^^^^^^^ also he btn to authpme the Roman (EL' orriully apologize, a^^a wiUuhuw a^w sud! statement... Wliilc I see tliat tliis knSc ,n pcni-s tx, provoke a sneer from .some gtnUcme cceivod by gontlenu-n around these benches in the siune spmt in which it is oftercd I n„ l ^tyfnmklythatlsee no reason wfmtcvcr^ clumgo 111.; opinions I held l.«t winter for ihcyareloundedontho honest com- ctlon of my mind Whether I am riglit o wron^ IS not the que-tion before fhe llZZtl Ihese opinions arc as unchanged as ever, and have taken m connection witl- the quest on hat «. agita lug tliis country. But when I .see til. t a Legislature, such as I see licfore me has voted ecrta n resolutions and a.ldreascs to'ller Majesty, it is not for mc to p.wokc a Jonte^s >vh,ch must end aselessly. 'rh„,o ^ '^..^^'^^^ subject to wluch 1 shall refer. In the m-c^ t IS the custom to attribute miy public grievamS Ol- mistorti nc t« the operation of ConfcvlenUi" , .Vow I noUce that the value of the real So ol mc city, has increased duriiiK the venr bv .' rtnl^vordollavs; leeilaiidy fhhik "^ ]" s ' IJ might be ju.. as liUrly attributed to Cmll-dera Uon as the lac| of any depression of tmde that •Aists in this country. I ,„ay say in conclusio that I intend to give my attenHon to the lnwi.' ne.^ ot tins House. 'Jhe tiovernment Imv.- 1], > light to ctpect every gentleman to a.ssist. then, in the progress oilegislulion n.ve.ssary for the pnbhc interests. 1 ...e no reaso,/ why i is House should not rise in Mie courec ol fo r weeks at the fiurtlicst. Tne resolution Uien passed, mid the Hoi.s*. adjouxucd mitil ucvt day ut 3 g'clici ^^ DEBATES AxND PR^CEEDrNGS „ WEDNESbAv, August 12 House met at 3 i>. in. BILLS. Mr, Blanchaud, as C'hairinHu of tJie r^r^ .mt.ee on Trivatc and Local S,fepo^?X' b'lls to mcorpomte the Ontaiio Gold Min n^ Company, the Alpha Go.d Mim'ng CWmf .hetKingston and Sherbrooke Gold Mnhf; Comjmny, the Uaiacke Union Gold xM n iW pany, ajid the Gladstone (iold Minino rn«, Sim'^Vf t^'" '''1- ^^^ b^i^i^e unioim with those formerlv iiiiaso^ a« i-egards the extent of shaiehoK' li bS' P^^'onThe"^^' '""^' ^»^' the serWco ^ pit>ce88 on the Companies. Ho also renoit/>H a bill to enable the Itoman CatjJS eES Uor,,oration of Haiaitx, to morSo orsdl cer tain lands. TJe «„,, Un,t the bill .^"sTked for o.cK!Ki;,r.''K',iri;!:;;'sr he's S'i'-n??;?- ^■^ M"J1S 0™,^«ly I y^'fY^^*-'OM Mining Comnanv tlio At pha Gold Mining ComDcny an t In Ir 1 and Bcxty Mi,4 CoiiiS;/' ^^^ ^hS to amend the acts incorjK.mting the Blue lead Mming Company, and ilio Dominion Go Mining Comi«my. ALso the bill toirori.o a e bm tTln"^^ ^'""»'?"^- '^'^^ l««t meXiS Diu was leit in committe(> f hn tt«.. a , suggesting tl^t additS^Vsi^^niS^aS provided in the case of coal compimie.s k" iu^ to become passessed of mU estnto ,,,;';^""'S niittce adjourned and r-^j^n-ted *^- "'" '""'• Mr. Blancjhar^i introduced l«ii« *„ •. poijate the VVoodbi.ic gS"J.«„ ^i^ ^^^^.^^i;;;; and the LiUcdonia xMining Com .„y. ^ ""'I^'^-'' ri'BLic AcrrouNTS. Mr. Blanoiu-jd said ,t was usual for the Govei'mncnt willmi .ii. 'U^.tft. cVu-s ,,f I,! wmiWboMdonthe Milel ■,ij,|i, Air. £LAMC1IABD lv'iriwf> «,l „... .ifJ /... JEShAv, August 12. 3. ' ' Imiiinim of tlie Corn- eal Bills, icnorled the Ontaiio Qold Mining lU Mining Company, rooko Gold Mining Union Gold Mjning u Mining Company, ig Company, the Irji- Orient Gold Mining I Derby Mining Com- ' (iold Mining Com- 11s had been mad© Ibinierly passed, aiehol'lera' liability, anf) the service of Ho also reported Catliolic Episcopal nortgago or sell eer- ie hill was asked for M. The late Arch- ^•ill devised to tlio Corpomtiou, being ertaiii lands of the ie(n however with ifteuixMUHlit to the lul, or to the Sisters 'K Ixien duen.H dc- id a title could not ;o were it'moved. ment of the ftnmii- K. C. E. C'orpora- ito committee on incorporatu the Mining Conijiany, n,iany, the Kings- Iniing Company, 'om[)any, the Al- and the Hayden Also the bills to ; the Eluo Lead Piovincial Gold Dominion Gold 'ill to incorporate iie last mentioned ic Hon. Speaker 'guards should be impiuiies desiring state. 'I'he com- il bills to iuco> filling Company u; ■■■■ny. rs. }8 usual for the '"V dr.ys of Uio i;" iiuujiciid re- iu.uls to show * Uiey had been live da.vs. Ho he in a position iild 1h> ready. Iifit the i-otnnis nuirrow. TJri 'o lo make thn ^, — sni)nl«men- prepai-fed and July. deal of di/hculty wonld be found n mS compai-ative statements unWrtl.« .• ?^ year closed at the earS- cCe '" '"^^'""^ irb2^nt^e.rredre.lK^ at an early penod, and m glit induLre in p^ as^o the aLal stiHf U.eta:;^.^'^''""^'"' at 3 oVWlT "•'"'"'""' '"^ '''•' Allowing, day OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBtY. „,, '„ Thursoay, August i;i. TV u'^"'"' '""t a< 3 o'clock. «rjioiton, in lefei-ence to Wind--»«hei,;^.r::;:;. The J/oisetlienwem into committee on bills WaIP8dol-«i,Jr'„w . •• "'* Pf'ice of fi^SSSn^r^^''^"-''^''- ,,,,.„ ,, Friday, August 10. Ihe House met at 3 o'clock tm.r''" ^"''"'■»^0''a"°» Acts were read a tl-.ird Elh^^ Vl^. ' ^".™tyo'' A.uigonishe; to Deha M w I , t '""°''' '"™'^' ' ^'^^ Merediar, I r 'b., L« ■ ' '^'/^l<^r'''"<"i Companion, tnir »/u ^^ introduced a bill i,, )-eferenee to '^pl^""" '^'"°" ' "•■'*'^'' Order or'Goo:- CONFiODER \riOX. sftid°""T .-^'"^""^.'^^ ««NKAr. then rr,.o. ,„,^ haid:_I„setO(Usehargo ;ydmvin • «> 'on witlui question of' groat mm" ,, .. t I'lepose to e.x})lain the polW '' (ij r ':, ^ mcnt in relor^ice to tl J I ul^o^ ' ^ ^^l^ »; »a«n Nvlnch, iu point of lUct. is the « ly s b J'/ttol importance npreseu under "• ,' ^^^on. TheF..,^i« aware Uu.; in::: swe. to the addi-es. wnich was trnismitted t , Son thn'i"^J'^';> '"/''" *Mvrurtof the ^dssion tJu;DukeolBuckingh»m. Her Maies- .ysl'rmcipalSecreUryof state . the CoKi- "".. has tmr nttod through h., Lll„,,?. . ta"tu,rai ufC ttUeHj.uich in which iVo iu- forms the people of Nova Scotia throuirh Ui« '"^.^f ««?• tijat Uiq Queeft has been Sneed nom the Conloderatiou was Dositivjlv o.^-i^ although it might Ix, some t m^^^bSe we ?, '.' eonndishod it Hi,f t e^u .• "!"""-'"*.« ^.e ac- oiti,. 7i . , , ^ leltlrom tno cor 'i",xion ci. ; T•'^''"'^'"" ^"''«t nltimau.lv Tr uie Hoiwe that the resolution wliicU authorise, elegate to go to England to S' wiS couched"'' "^Tf"'^*-^"* ^ Coniederu .on wis .Ts i wiS W '•■""' «-^ to^-'Mbmeey/.^ Colo' mes. II WiU be a^Lso rememU^red that that r.. solmion required tlmt tliere slioidd be a e. i al" inber ol delegates li;om each ol th, se ve I tscK legates, m arrangniga Conslitution toy Uiejust rights and libeilies of the l>ro inc o • ?,?i:\^"''?>- ^"^V"«"ici-e won, i^i 'del tue, and as there was an unequal nu.ni J-^en? Irom these three, in ,,oint of lit „o leg^^dlde gation liad been created rnder that esolu t« Cou.,.juently all the acts ol'a deWal?o„ s^ ' h>g.»l]y coiistitutd were absolutely vol" "*^vv' ^•onumded again that v ■„ pojer was giv; , to deegau^s to en .dnne w (,onfedera»e five t'nSon'he'r '"v^ "° n«li^ocoS.ii: t nee on|,o Iivq. \Vv. contended again tlrrt in lights ol the people of Nova Scotia thevJia, in.olmt'"''"''^;'^^ ""',■"' "'"1»P«" theso^l.!^' giounds wo undertook to declare tiie delell ti'>n to be void-tiiat the delegatL Cl n ixnver. and what power they hi^lXTab id unu consequently that thopeoploof Nova Scotfa were not bound by anything tl.ev hU done We mainlam that |)Ositio- pie of Novii Scotia have given their assent " ergo, the constitution which was passed en- titled "an Act for the union of Canada, Novt Scotia, and New Brunswick" iseonstitutionnlly 1 egal. Tt i rule i,j logic, that if either of the proijof, '• a syllogism be false, the con- elusia ^ fftlse also. If that be true, we deny v d proposition. T\w fiixt propo- sition ctly sound— t.l.e Legislature ol' England hu.-, the power to elJer the constitution ol (he piYmnce with the consent of the people But the second proposition, liiat the consent of NovM Scv>tia W.1S given to tlie altemtion ol' our constitution, is absohit.'lv false; and there- loi-e his conclusion is (iilsc also, and we nre en- tided to be set free. ^Vith ivg-nr.l to the fads ot the case 1 am nor speaking at present I am merely reftirring to the law. 'fhe Meo(^id ironiul betakes is, that Canada will redress i, "wronM-M ol Nova Seotia, and consequently tlia. Novi Scotia will be compelled to remain in the V'oii- lederation. Now let me ask this House if these wrongs done in Nova Scotia aiv snseeptible of redress It it should appear that the wrongs comiiiitteii against Nova Scotia by th<> Union Act are of such a nature as not to admit of l•edlvs^ we are entitled to Iwset free. What aiv'the wrongs y The Duke of Buckingham refers to trade, commerce, and the fisheries, and says the Government will dii^eet the Canadian (f,,. vernment to enter into >neh h compiomiae as to meet all reasonable objections. Now our trade, commerce, and fisheries are all depen- dent upon the political constitution which was granted; for under tliat constitution, aliens, stmngors, Canadians, have the power to direct and control our trade, om- commerce, our fishe- ries. Then they can give us no redress in re- gard to these subjects without altering the poli- tical coiistitutiou. To makjs myself perfrctiv understood, it is clear that so long as Canalu has a majority— a large anil preponderating- majority in both branches of the Lcgislatui-e — 162 over Nova Scotia m the House of Com- mons, and 72, or 60 as you please, in the Senate —she can do what she pleases witli our trade commerce and fisheries. So we are brought to this jioint. Before Canada can give us Sio redims which we require it will be neccessary ior Canada to consent to a most matetrial alte- ration in the (wlitical coiwtitution of the Con- tederation. I shall endeavour now to state cai-etully what alteration would be neceasary betore the people of Nova Scotia would be sate in remaining in the Confederation. Now look at the constitution of the United States. In ai-i-anging it, as lai^ge and populous States hail to Ije confederated with small ones. It was considered necessary to guait' *he inter- ests ot till! latter in some orteetual imnner. It WIS found al)solutely necessary to compeiisate the smaller States for their inierioritv in ixiint ol strength in the Lower House which was Iramed on the basis of ix>pulatioii, by giving them additional strength in the Upper Branch OP Senate. Therefore if you take either of the largest States and compare ifcs representation m the Senate with that of the smallest, you will Imd Uiat each has the same munber of Sonatow. For instanc(^ New Yoric, with a poimlat ion of three millions, has 33 memlxji's 111 tlie House of Representatives, whilst two of the smallest States will not have more than two; but ill the Senate the number of ,Seimtx)is IS the same. Now unle.ss something be done to place us in the same position as the smallest States of the American Union, I deny that we should continue in the Conlederation. Canada has necessarily from her large population a large majority in the House of Commons; but unless she would coiisenl to a.ijust the repre- sentation ill the Senate so as to give to the Muritime Coloniw a, majority in that body we camiot muaui in the Confederation. I dp not now assert that it would be merely imimlitic or (lisadvautageous to remain, but" I make tlie bold as.sertion that uudei' .s„ch a constitution the people could not exist, ior they have been accnstomed-to liberty and will not endure the chains of .slMvery. I therelore come to this conclusion that, in the' first place, whatever c!mngi>s may be propos(>d must be made in the Ijohtical constitution. I proceed further and declare that there must be such changes as will give to Na\'a Scotia such a representation in the Senate as will enable the Maritime Colonies to have 11 major.;? „ tv ,, |„.a„cl,, and that can only be done by t;.yir, . ach Province an equal number ot represent, v es. How siiould their Senator b,- appointed ? Is it to \ye tolerated tlu.t they shall be appointed bv the (Governor t-Teneral'/ BytheE.TCoutive of Canada'!' They must ij.* chosen by the people themselves In old times we submitted voluntarily to have the Legislative Council appointed by the Queen of THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 173 !lion«; Now ojir •9 ai-e all depen- ution which was istitntion, aliens, ) power to direct unerce, our fishe- no redress in re- altering the po)i- myaelf perfrctiy long as Canadlu I preponderating «' Lcgislatni-e, — Hoiisa of Com- ise, in the Senate witli our trade, we are brought can give us the ill be ntHJcessary «t matetrial alte- iition of the Con- ir now to state lid be neceasary tia would be sate tion. on of the United ge and populous with small ones, guan' *he iutei'- ual mmuer. It ' to compensate eriority in ^loint use whicli was ition, by giving I Upper Bmncli ike either of t tie 1 i-eiireaentation he smallest, you laine nuuil^er of - York, with a las o3 mein)>ei>i IS, wlijlst two of nve more llian iber of .Senators lething be done as the smallest I deny that we ration. Canada 50 jiopulntiou !i Commons; but ijust the re)m'- s to give to the n that body, we itioii. I do not -ely impolitic or nt 1 make tlie a oouatitution they liHvo been not euduie lli« ? coiiio to this ilacp, vv hut ever be made in tlie ed further and ehangos as will presentation in iritime Colonies ill, and that can ivinee an equal )w should their Ix) lie tolerated f the tTovernor Uahada? They hemsplves. In •ily to have the by the t^ueen hersell'. It was fi-otn a species of necessity. When the constitution was first given to these coloniea we had no other means of obtaining the services of an tipper House except through tlie Crown. The people are the source of ail power, and they must have the apiwintment of those who are to rule them. Now I come to this conclusion : take the Duke of Bucking- ham's despatch and you will find tlM>se stat<'- ments sent forth — the Qneen cannot n^lonso Nova Scotia : first, because the statute is quite constitutional, it having been passed with the consent of the people of Nova Scotia ; in the next place she will not release you because she intends that all the ^^Tongs which the stattite puts upon you shall be redressed. 1 ask you and the world generally whether it is not tnie that rhe consent of Nova Scotia has never been given — that the people of Nova Scotia have done eveiything in their ix>wer to pre- vent C!onfedei*tion — that they never, directlj' or indirectly, coasented. Now if, in addition to|thiS, the evils of Confederation are such that Canada herself cannot take such measures as will coiTBct them — that they aiv incurable in fact,' — what will Ix? the result '. Let, me ask the Duke of Buckingham wiiat will he do now. We lell him that he is in error. Do you ima- gine ihat after this wo are to be told, " if all this be tnie we will make an iuquiiy now."' Why they refused it before. H<; must say at once to tlie j)eople of Nova Scotia, "you are entitled to be set free, and yon must bi? freed." 'i'lie Duke can take no other course, and we will pin him down to that ; and I will show to the world that we are as good special pleadei-s as the noble duke himself, that we have turned his reasoning against lumself, and placed his Confederation policy in a miserable plight. Let n>e dissect this famous despatch a little more. Nova Scotia liaving a Legislative Council and Hoivse ol Commons, having all the apparatu:j of a regular government, how cau the people of Nova Scotia exi)ress them- selves t»xcept thi-ongh their representatives V We have assumed tlie position that bt»foro the people of Nova Scotia could give any assent to the alteration of tlieir constitution tliat assent must be given in this House find in the Legis- lative Council, and sanctioned by the Govern- ment — that there was no other coustiUitioiial method by which the j)eople of Nova .Seotia could give expression to tlieir will. W^e there- fore said, your English Statute is void, liecause it has lieen jiassed without being sanctioned by a Statute of the Legislature of Nova Scoria. Again we said, the liCgislatiire of Nova Scotia would have no power in itself to have altered the constjtntion 'if this country except the question had IxH'.n n feri-ed to the peojile tlu^iii- selves at the polls, i\ r th!,^ reason : The Le- gislatuie of Nf'/u Sc^otia is not like the Im- perial Legbiature, a supreme jiower, but an inferior body, and had no kind of authority over the coiistluition — it was aijpointed under a written ehaiicv which detiiied the limits ol' its power, and nonlined it simply to the making of laws and not constitutions. Thi're- foi-e, unless the question M'as referred to the prople at the iioUs the; rjegitjlature had iii ^low- er to niter the constitution of the province. Let \\% see how thu Duke slides over these dirti- culties. He doen not say that the lnn.)erial tlovernment l.-'d a right to puss the Statute — to legislate away the freedom of Nov-a Scotia— tJiat the constitution of the peoplft can be taken away without consulting them at the polls. He contents himself with saying, »t has not been usual, and then refers us to Canada. The only case he can refer to is the Union of (Janada in 1839. I shall refer you to the cir- cumstances of that case, and show you how he stultifies hhuself when he deals with constitu- tional history. He has not been alile to adduce a case whei'e the constitution of a Colony has lieen changed without a Statute of that (loloiiy. He has not prwltM^ed a rti4e of a Colony, situa- ted like Nova Scotia, with a representative constitution, having its eoastitutioii changed without an Act of the Colonial Legislatui-e. Tjook at the case oi" Canada. liOwer Canada, in 1837, had rebelled again.st the British Go- vernment, and had to be quieted by force; but the upper province, on the contrary, lemained firm and time. Sir Francis Bond Head sent down troops to Jiower Canada, confiding in the loyalty of the people of the Western sec- tion. Under these cireumstances the liOwer Canadians had forfeited their right to be con- sulted- they hud no constitution, for they had lost it by their own acts. Wh.'ii Lord Durham went home to England and rs Mr. Pit\ declareil that SI legislative enactment ol' Ireland was neces- sary, should the total absence of all argument in the despatch of the Duke of Buckingham now prevail ujioi. us? We come now to the only case that is e'xnctly paiellel to own — that of New Brunswick, which was i>laced exactly m the same positioii as this provhiee. She was sold by her public men just as V3 were; she was brought to the same altar to be sacrificed ; but there the subject was referred to the people at the poll's Now I hold in my hand a Minute of Council, 174 •iM H'j' lif portonoo, a„a lh„ Govoiun.nt lav" EtoS ■utuex uRte, as they considered tliennfilvpa ^ «e ,0 good. o.n sucS so 0^™'^ r^l'" .^anio time with iirn,n,>as nn,l d.'d"oV v\^ tomjc. addit,s«e,l to the Lieutenant Go "racM- a lo tJ.e JJrit«,h (,overmnont, for this is uow ' i>; o.%, eiicuiU.u« route hy wluoh we are ,T ^Wed to approttoli the JJ.^tinh ihm ,e T s atuii. Of '■"""' ^'*=!'>'^"«% to its loading 4wri n , ''"'"■'^'' ^"^ f'uiradicfs .no.st em ^ olomal Jl.hisier, that ilu> peoijlo of \ovr this CwT,'*'? in an, m.u,L..'aceeLn ^ ■ ''f,.V'^"'-'l"-^f'on. It e.vjjluins li.en to' the on If ».,^^ ','■•*'"** to,jccept ComWera- 'on. It nudces plani— so p ain that lie v ho ■ins may read-that ho obiu>.xion ■, , „i"t t S t.onfede.tifcion he to the poopje, lu de ,mv ih- cMm^Umces, tliat they are' defer'mi Si to ilwt ; and it shows the gronn.ls of this reSxTion h .lescrihes the eonstitution of l>,'ova «'eot i ss to be ihrust upon hev. This was of eoui-s^ uece.s,ary to enable the British (ioven nie" to ndei>j and what position Contedemlim L brouKliI Nova Scotia Into. Ill the next place; it describes this new out Wus conslituticm that luus bee el 1,,; Dominion; it shows that these CanahuH) d the niodeat.v to li«,ue for tJiemselvt^ «„ i' utiou m which they gave to Canada I G2 em be.^ against 19 for Nova Scotia in oi riW aud toqk the liberty of aj^pointing every mlm: berot t be Upper House theiaserves K sm eiore t le Bruish peo,^e the nature and c, ua . y of tha precious constitution which the C'.u.a dians had the insolence to attempt «ib"v ZZ^T """"'''i '' ^'"^'> ^<>'-'^ -" to show th..beK.smy.s we have enjoyod under our old eons UM.ion, and what we might e.vpce^" tTie "'•e .i we wore mad enough to sit down and o d uu,. a,,,,, ,„ fjj,, Confclemtion. Tt shows vhu power we will have ; how eo.m.le.cly we •y.ll bestripiK-d of everything like |.ower- how Canada can take hold.of us and do with „7a, ;"<' |. eases. It shows that upon every p,"nd' I'le ot justice we ought to be free. It exKpV sliail be tice. It will meet with the approba- louoi every true lover of Nova Scotia, „as. tiuich as It smiply .vsks for a ..-eelomtion if tho . Id constiiui.on of the province; it evurPSHv disavow*, any a«m.;e,eithef to niter o.^r eons i- DEBATES AMD PROCEEDINGS fuuoii or to go under .suhjectioti to any other Z. «''t"'^'^<' loyalty of the neopW Noya Scotia and their Jove for British iS^tit^ &-/\'^,'^' dfatiucUyv and boldl^dSS ih«iiH f"^ *"' -""^y other ooimtrj-; that wo shall be free as we we.c9 before; timt theToZ he bST ^ ^"^^ i^rther and declares tlmt iJie iJridsh government must give un th« n. nee ol nailing colonies. a„d lefv-e it"£ 'e ^^C;: ■ues liemse yes to do so. It declaims at H b K Coin; " "--"r,""."" °^ "« "'"'«! iltl i^'iy other Colony or Coloiiies except upon terms o themopt,M3rlect aud e. act equity. We >^aJlnevergoi„on tei-n,s of interiol^. l' .Nova Scotia inferior to Canada? I say not ^cptm V)d sell lor more to-monow than either or he Cauadas, Will li,«sia sell forT nS as Creat Britain • We have so great a w for thi.s country that we shall not te tnunSed down bj- au3- other. We have jrone al 31n earlier We'r a '^"^•"'' T^ ^^^"- - -« u r. ,, r n' ^^^^''^ S*^"'" f'"" enough to show U^ 'i^n Tinf^?'" iu England th^ we ared^ «u>ugh. weSvj\i;';;:!tin.^'dr^f^ uiedicme y,i}l not operate we must increase it jiud ni lac-r we will give.it to jhem every ha f irwetKr"^'-'"^'"'^."^^ won we teh them m uuuustalceable iausuiurn tliul; we are determined to be five; ,^il a ?S Hessioii we shall beoblige^' Nova Scot » aiKi New Brunswick, whic'i were ibUowe.i b v •1 address from ihc same body to H^Tl^ol Ui'iie.ous Ma,,,st3- the Queen, praymg tl at tJu people of Neva ScoUa Ix/ LlS Sni d e operation of such act, and that tlu, iS nri restored ^ I^^g'^lat are of this Province he ^ndwhereas~ln reply to such resolutions and addre.s.sHi« Grace the Duke of Ckh,^ lam, ScH-retary of State tor the Colom'es i "°a d.--spat^h bearing daU, the iour.h of June 1868 uiM inionned the Uovernoi^ieneml tl.'at the Queen's Governnieut .lo not feel warn Ld V,? ^v !' ?.^ ^''' lollowmg reasons : i-Us-Z-'l hat "Nova Scotia was, on several occtisions, the first of the Provinces onioS 'lie project of Couleiloration." ^ Secouil—Thiil Confederation " jn 1854 was edoneot the topics entrmsUHl to Delegates irpm i« ..joverunieiitof Nova Scotia t^r lUajeslj „ <:ioyernuieat." y..^-^^J.j^. on to any oilier 9 i'Hjn a4nutt«>d tlie neople of British inHtitu- boldly declares, elves, to Ijc aab- >antry; that, we that the people lemselves from 1(1 dae trampled one already to Jwn wo are in iigii to show i»t we are de-. not coiiiniil. iiy act of vio- lor refraining i'e noi strong t dose, if the It increa.4e it, mi every half M,y. Thisfies- ble language jKuhapsnojt little 111 t her, le Minute of 'J the Keso- ivere read by 2lHt day of d ii^Molutions is of an net i>nt conll'd- >Io\ii Jrieotia ioUow(!(l l».v lo Her Most ug that ,tl)fl ■edfroni tlie rights, pri, and wisely I'rovinee be resoliitioiis f liucking- snics, in u June, 1868. ul tliatthe iirmnted in rortii Ame- on several 1 to move ISa-i \vm Scotiji.' 1857 IbriB", Delegates a tc\Her OP TlTE'&oaSE OP ASSEMBLY. Fonrfk—Thkt the subject of ConrcderatSon was i'evivelear and conclusive, drawn liom the pnbUc i-ecords of the counti-y. Hi' Grace the Colonial Secretary has ventured not only to defend the adoption of a scheme of Govern- ment whicli was never submitted to the Le^is- latnre or to, the people of this Pi-ovince, but' to throw iiptin them the responsibility of having initiated tlie measure itself ; 175 jfnd wAercas instead of recommendinjt the repeal of the BriUsh North America Act* His attention ofthe(,ovenimeut of Canada to the points raised in the addi-ess relative to taxaticn, the i-egultttion ol" trade, and the Hsheries wi^h .1 view to their modification or relaxat o^ n relation to the peculiar interests of K Sc^ «"^ the Maritime portions of the Donu-.non- ^Tnd whereas five members of the Dominion' Government have 'fieeii seveihU davs h^ th^ city, during a portion bfwhich time a ProWnci^ Convention wasinse*ision,bitt no ofier to rchix taxiition, or to modify regnlations infWation tt, trade nils yet been made to the (iovernnient or Legislature ol this Piwince • ^ ,»^.T°!.lV^"'^ uo mere financial arrange- «LhL .V '^*''' V'" ^ niade Which would satisfy the people of Nova Scotia, short of a restoration of their comtitutibrt, with f„n powers of self-govei-nment, whi<;h they con sider the only elPectuiU guarantee for the w"se regulation of their trade ar.d fisheries, for Z,! tec ion from unjust and excessive taxnfio ^flffah"'" '*"""""' *"''^^'' a'l'ninistration Jlnd whereas^-3no. Blight, Esq., member for Bnimngham, on the loth day of Alav last r!Z sentedaTetitionto the House of ^ommoi, " signed by sixteen of tin, nineteen membeS dected by the peoi.le of Nova Scotia t6 the ParhnmQnt of the Dominion, arid by thirtv-six of the tli.ity-eight memJ.t.B elected to sit in the Legislative Assembly of this P.-ovince fullv setting forth tlie griov:.ncesi,.,ucted upon the people of Nova Scotia .,y the act of Cont^d.-ra- tion and ikuying Ibr I heir removiU bv «he i-e pealofsaidactjandalsoa'Pehtiort .si^e, Hon. Wm. "mi'and* Hon. J. C. Troop, and H. W. Smit;; Es„ praying to be heard by Counsel at the' Bai of sJid^^etido^i; "'""'"' '" '"'^"'*'"^" '•'" "*"^-«- Jlnd whereas—The said John Briaht in hi'* place m the House of Commons, on ti,e 16th day oi June last, with the ai)pi-oval ol'the Del- egates afomsaid, Cf)nsentcd to waive the de- mand lor an nninediatc repeal of the Brilish North America Act, and to ask in lieu thereof hat Her, Majesty's qoyernment would in^t ! tute an eiiqiury into the giievances, of Nova Scotia, winch inwlerate and reftsonalfle request Was refused; ^4"<-ai. .'JwrfwAercffs— Mr. Adderley, Under Scci-c- tary ot State for the Colonies, in the Hous? of Commons on tlie 16th June last, in refasinj such enqmry, declared that " he could assurl tl.e House that by the emplovraent of otlier meansany apprehensions which might have been eiitcrtamed by the peoj)le of Nova Scotia were br'mg rapicUy dissipated at the (present i;omi>nt- that by toUowmg the line indiwited in the last fe^*"'' ?*K *''' ^'"'^'Tl Secix;tai-y (4th June, 1868),andbyii.singullfnendly and moral in! fluence, the Govertunent at home would be able, while avoiding, all the evils of mischiev- oils interference, tc induce the colonists to ar. ringe thar mutual interests. This hud been et}(:cted to a lai^e .Extent alreadv." Unon winch assurance the House of Common., by a vote of 181] to 87, refused to grant such e„ RfiiinltMtil Tbof tV.;.. II , , , 176 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS ■III it T Hi nh ii iil ■ indiffuation and alarm the refusal of a majority i)f th« House of Coinmons, inspired by the Icadere of Government, to grunt evcii an in- quiry into the grievajicus of a people necond to none in the United Kingdom for ptibli.^ spirit and intelligence luid attac^hincnt to the throne — adcmimd which coidd not bo safelv disre- garded if nindc by the smallest Coiiionition in f|e British Wes, and we believe could not have heem-efuHcd if the pojiulatipn of Ny vaScotia were as gieat au tliat of the two Provincx's of Ontario and Quebec. And tliis Jlouse emphaticidly le- cordsitsdehlxa-ate i-cpiobation of the statements of the Under Secretary for the Colonies, that t-he grievances of Nova Scolin " were being rapidly dissipated," and that tJieir removal "' -d been effected to a loigc extent already," «.s utterly untrue. And that, so far from the din- content having btun " di«>ipated," or even sub- dued, the feeling of hostihty against the Act of Confederation has increased and intensified since the Addi-ess from this House was laid at the foot of the thi-one. ^nd whereas the said Act of Confederation wui* passed by the Imperial Parliament in di- rect opposition to, and against the wishes of the people, and is unjust and opjnessive : Resolved, Tluit the answer of the British Government to the pniyer of this House, based on false premises, ta unsatis^faclory ; and tliis Assembly again records its .solemn protest against the said Act of Confederation which was a fraud upon the people of this countr> , and notliiug but Imperial coercion can force them to be bound by such Confederation Act. Iiesohed-7-Thii.t the Representatives of the people of this Province, loyal to tlieii- Sove- reign, but confident of the justic* of their cause, feel bomid to use all constitutional means lor the restoration of their liberty, peace, andpros- ))erity as a colony of the Crown, and in their behalf invoke the sympathy and support of the people of the adjacent Colonics and tlie lovew of freedom m every part of the civilized world. Mr. Blanchard presented a petition in re- ference to a Gold claim. 'rhe House then adjourned until Monday, at 3 o'clock. Monday, Ai^ust 17, 1868. Tlie House met at 3 o'clock. The following Bills of Incoiporation were read a third time and passed : the Eurok(t, Wentworth, Uniacke, Orient, Prince of Wales, and Gladstone. Mr. KiDSTON introduced a bill to amend Chap. 45 R. S. of County Assessment; also, a bill to amend Chap. 47 K. S. of County and Township OiKcere. Mr. Pinko asked the Govennnent to lay on the ttiblu ft detailed statement of the Road and Bridge Service Expenditm-e in the Countv of Cumberland, since the fii-st of Januiuy last, together with the accounts and voucticrs con- nected therewitii. He said that he had under- stood at the adjburnment of the House laur winter that it was intended to pm-sue the usual mode in respect to the roa.-l service, and accordingly on his icturn homt 'a wrote to his colleague to cany out the arrangement for the division of the road moneys, but he liad pcvcr received any answer ip to the pre- sent time. He had subsequently applied to the Provincial Secretaiy and had received an answer to the effect that his colleague had claimed the right, as a supporter of the gov- ernment, to dispose of the whole of the money as ho thought proper for the county. Ho v/ished under the circumstances to have fur- ther information on the Siibject; so that he niight bring the matter to the notice of the House and of his constituents. ENQUIRY. Mr. Blanchard said that last winter cer- tain resolutions were passed by the House authoiTzing the government to obtain the opi- nion of learned English Coimeel on the sub- ject of the Union. He had heard such opiiii onshad been obtained, and therefore asked the government to lay on the table t^io papers containing such legal opinions. Hon. AttokSev General rephed tiiat the resolution refeiTcd to by the hon. member authorized the employment of Counsel simply to advocate tlie cause of Nova Scotia. He would like to know where the hon. member had gained such information that any counsel had been employed to give any opinion on the subject. It would be remembered that the argument of tlie government was this: that the Imperial Parliament had no power or author- ity to tax the people of Nova Scotia because the latter were not repi-esented in the Imi*- rial Parliament. It was then contended that if the Imperial I'ariiament had not such a power, a /„ tiori, they^ would not create a legis- latino and confei- upon it the power which they did not possess. 'J'he conclusion was, therefore, if they had not the power, the Impe- rial Statute was mdl and luiconatitutional. He would say that, on the main point on which the whole question hinged, tliey had never received any legal opinion. Mr. Blanchard replied thatit was quite clear from the remarks of the Hon. Attorney Gener- al that such an opinion had beer- given. He did not deny that the opinion of Counsel had been taken, but rather attempted to evade the quos tion. Now tlie House and comitry had a right to know the facte, in view of discussion that might take place on tlio resolutions now before them. He was convinced that an opinion had been taken in conneclion with the question of Confederation. Dame Rumour, nay more thim Rumour, declared such to have been the case. Hon. Atty. General said that the hon. member lud not heaitl him admit that such an opinion had been taken, and that he need not exjxict to dragoon the Government into bring- ing down any otlicr papci-s than they thouaht proper. Mr. Blanchard was not attempting to dra- goon the Govermueut, but had simply iwk cd a q-icstion to which t-hc Government ought m justice to the House and country, reply. He was informed that such a naper existed. Hon. Att. Gen. repliecf that the hon. n '^m- Iwr had received his answer, imd that he ou. lit to know there was Uttle dependence to be placed on so fickle and uncertain a leader as (leneral Rumom-. Mb. Blanchard replied that it was obvious that the hon. gentleman was evading the qups- tioii, and that the country would perfectly well t \ '- .-Vr'- sntly appbert to tiad received an s colleague hiid •rtcr of the gov- le of tlie moiioy e county. Ho 2es to have fur- iect; St) that he he notice of the last winter cer- by the House > obtain the^opi- el on the sub- ?ard such opini therefore asked table tlio papers eplied that the ! hon. member Counsel simply va Scotia. He le hon. member lat any courweJ opinion on the ibered that the IS this: that the ver or author- i Scotia because ed in the Im])e- mtended that if t such a power, create a legis- power which onclusion was, iwer, the Impe- ititutioiial. He point on which ley had never was quite clear ttorney Gener- given. He did insol Jiad been vade the quos try had a right liscussion that >ns now before tn opinion had lie question of r, nay more have been the that the hon. t that such an he need not nt into brlng- thcy thought mpdng to dra- aimply a^jk •nment ought, ly, reply. He ixisted. lie hon. I) "in- that he out,))f idence to be a a leader as t was obvions ling the qups- perfectly well OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY, 177 tmdcrstand that the government was unwiUing Hon cave as a reason fnr tu^;,. » _j-^ to have the facts come to light. ijmtfhiv ^If^ 1"^®" expenditures «* "• "»at they reqmred a very large sum in order MiacELLANEOCs. ^^ P''^^ *>" uiTcars; but they ought to have Hon Mr.CocHKx.introducedabUl ..amend 'iTpTlCe^Sv^Srrt wo^H^^^^ ^»rof Mr. rer^oison, the bill to incor- 'X^^r^Xt'^! S^S'LS'ltr^Xo^ Se inur ^^-^^^ '^"'l ^I'^-g^- ^•o">Pany, ion account. As a n^tuiT^SuenSXy Mke^av^lIrCr^^" "'' mcorporating the had a veiy large amomit to meet Shly hid Mire Bay liarbor Company, were read a second no other wav of doing so excent bv d™%J?n^ Ume. The bill in reference to the sale of Pe- on Uie suteidy. Under the circuiS^ef rcgum m the city of Halifax was also read the present goveUent weiS^U rj^So'^ A.r ' r. ,,. . to lay a financial statement on tlip t«I)l« loaf Pr£e ait^L^aTBi^^T^^'J of Committee on winter, together with an esti^at^^r th^ cm- iTZ^^ ftn« focal Bills, reported up a biU in re- rent year. In diet, they were not in a nositlon tercnce tx. fc, ipemharj- Magistrate in the town of to ,say what they ^ctu^y could fisKe Ibr Sr^S^^t^^-:^-'^- SopiS^edr"--"^--^^ .b^I'I^'^' r"*^^ ''^t ^^^^ -"^^ '^° ^ *^- ^ ito^h^^-S^nel JShTS: so on the loUowing day or on the no.xt. counts, the Do., Jnion government arnointiu^ Mr. Ryeeson asked if the Government pro- an agent, and tlie local loverZ^t t^^^o Trea posed making any alterations in the School Bill. surer. They had gone ^nto Z^Sounts nut nPnt E«Hrr^^''*v"''1?"*^""'-. '^^^^Sovevn. difWcult to separate the account^all tt oiTo^ nort nf ^i « '''^^^'T ^''^ '*-*''P* °* "'« K<-- "'«y ^^'^'■e ""^J^ged to go on mth them as thev port of the Supenntendent. were, until they got the whole of the aiS Mr Blanchard suggested the Government settled up. ^ dtelSeS^ltX''''''^'''' ''°*""' ""' ,J^'A had received a ve.y large amount from Mr.RvEKfoxsafdthattheSnpcrintcndentof ^e£^^^l2S:iS:''''TC.n^^L ^, icarfnSme""'''' ™''' ''^ '""'^ ^'^ P"P"-« I-i;l out befoilthe'governmenttookpr^^^^^ icduymtimt. ^ of the offices. An examination of the accounts PUBLIC ACCOUNTS. would show had it not been for large amounts Hon. P«ov. 5KCRETART a*ed lo.iv<. t^ L.v ! ^° government, and which they could httle delay as poasiKe, to the discussion of the indeed might bo dem^idod hv h?» ^7 • • bursed f 277,560.34, leaving a kilance in tTio Advances 4QRq 7* tmisury for tlie next s.x months of ^'2,228.88. Coroner's Inquests '. '. '. '. '. '. '. \ .". nS S 1 he House would ol«erve that in the #279,- Criminal rrosecutions U?« fin 784 .liey had hududed the half year's subsi.ly, Cro^-u L4d 3 Wtaont 7in^ fc. tJ.e whole *(,0,000, and had drawn likewise or VAn^d^ J->epax(ment 7 05 50 oocomit of the .sul-sLly a:, ndditiona! sun., ILiro's Lot ^'^"'r^ ^I whjch left the balnnce at the dLsposa) of the Immigration ' innn no rr> . ii ' . inciinns 9fi ';h i 'iftt wiw the amount which the f. ovenmicnt Legislative Expenses 2 1 fin nn Imd actually a nglit to p,,t their hands upon. LoSai Works 1 5r, oaS ?r It w»w quite true that tlie prcvi >ub a.iminL.ito.- Mines .'.".',".■.■..■.■.■.■.■. & 00 ••rf ■■~f«l i ^78 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS Pot^^Zlnm''"^"" 5I?5?„5 As, he population i„crea«od. ,T,e road, and roora Asynim se>7i JO bridges would uecwjsaiiJv noreasc in eToense Sc PrinSnf ^TS' Th"^" *'''fT' cverv vonr by at feast «10,000. Woiiif ^""""K 4526.2/ 1 he accounts, ho added, were printed up to the «„V'!,-^ „f V^i ;A 5931J7 1st January, and those lor thoi-emaindor of the &ho^f P^T t''*^ <5ojermnen, . . . 3702.11 yeai- would be laid on the table for the ?nfor TSonfpo^r '^''^^''■"''•••' '*l^S^ nation of the Hou.,e. He would be glad tu«e would approve of th^ JW „ '""' ,,■'•• Vj 3856.14 net in which the fiovemment had disohaiged P^?J^ »' ^o2^-I^ ^'"'' *™'** ^''^y '""^ reposed in them during the ■KT „.• o .,."""" J/ 0.66 hiftt part of tlie session, in connection with the Navigation Securities 15241.94 public disbureement«. -cuon mm tne IrivatcBills 20.00 Mr. Blanchard asked th« Government Punehard, B.irry and Claik 50590.41 whether they were prepared to lay on tl^S Road Service 180 780.95 the Report of the C'o, nmission appointed lalt T ♦ 1 ^TTT^l — -'^"^ ^" '"vestigiite the public finances. lotal, ^100.615.41 Hon. Pro V. Beohetarv said they would be Now the same account showed on the next 11^'*' J" *!'' '*" *" * '^''^ ***" **"! "'" Report had side :— "««^n luinded back that it might be amplified in some of it.s detuiLs. Crown Land Department for Land MisfFTr *>.i.ni« sold »1643'i 4 " MISCELLAN fcObS. Hospital for Insane .... . . . . . . . . . . . . 4288 31 ^'"' ^i-'""-^^' I'liwented a petition from the Mines 17629 51 ™*" .P">"*"** "^ poUing section No. 13, Pictou, Railway Damages, Colchester, (Pic- " P^y^'ig '•'■ division for poor puiposos. He said tou, R. R.) 1000 00 -^^ ^^"'^ presented the petition prior to the Railway Damages, Pictou ' 2000 00 'ifljo"min«^J>t, but it had not been noriced in the Railway " Himts 600 00 K^l''^'t«- He had learned that the Sessions had Richmond Suspense 2410 00 P^'^^l *« cleal with the subject, and it would Royalty on Coal 1929!90 "*'*' '^"^^*'^0'"e, be pressed on the notice of the Dominion of Canada (arreare) IQO 000 00 ^^^m^*'" xr Education 23 84523 •„ House then went into Coi uittee on Road Service, Colchester 5000 00 {^jUs. '">}occ. He ^^■ould do all in his power to aid in he would have an opportunity of going more its promotion. fully into the question when the Estimates are ^^^ House then adjourned to the following brought down— that under Confederation, with '^^y *** ^ o'clock. the amomit of money given to us in the shape of subsidy, and the sums received from mines Tuesday, August 18, 1868 and minerals and other local resources, we The House met at 3 o'clock would only have about enough to keep up the ordinary service, without i^ayinica dollar for lla; miscellaneous, roads and bridges. He might safely assert that Hon. Airv. General introduced a bill to they would not have f 10,000 for the roads and amend Cliap. 182 Revised Statutes of Mad- bndges il they should provide as liberally lor men, Vagriuits, &e. The object of the 'jill is i -n nn^*""" ^'"Ta''^'L°^.''"''^*.°/°^^-. "' '^'^ S^'''' t^ i"'PO«^ "I fhcfk on the .sendingof pewons •■$00,000 or ,^60,000 for Education, tlie grant alleged to be insane to the hospital would be reduced one half— similar reductions Hon. Mr. Robertson presented a petition might be made and all the services thiLS provid- from Alex. Hamilton and others, for an altera- ed lor; but he did not think it very pleasant to tion of the Seliool I,aw. RefeiTed to Corn- reflect that in the first year of Confederation mittee on Education we were obhged to reduce the expenditure in Dr. Murray introduced a liiU to incorporate connection witli services that actuaUy increased the Crown Coal, Brick, and Pottery Company in importance and consequently jn exiwasc, He said that this company had gone into onc- ■kvith tie growtli vt ttie cgvmUT. J-utign ut Nov Glasgow. Suitable biuldings, ipd, flie roads and urease in expense; iucing, they- should :>y nt least d^lOjOOO. 3 printed up to the remaindor of the table for the infor mid be glad to give ect. He wa* quite )proveof the man- it had disohiiigec! 1 them during the unection with the the Govermnent :o lay on the table ion appointed last finances. lid they would be ); the Report had it be ainpUfi(;d in IS. petition from the m No. 13, Pictou, lu-poeos. He said tion prior to the Jen noticed in the the Sessions had !Ct, and it would he notice of the ,o Coi uittee on incoi) )rate the 'utCotiijiany, the in G( Id Mining Id Mining Com- ! the Roman Ca- •f Halifax to sell lie Bill to change, of Tracadie, An- he proceedings of Jill to enable the >w money for fire tion from the in- Guysboro', pray- rawbridge across that the work of gi-eat import- power to aid in to the following igiist 18, 1868. duced a bill to tatutes of Mad- ct of the bill is iding-of jieraoiis ital. tited a petition s, for an altera- feiTed to Com- U to incorporate ttery Company. gone into opc- table buildings, OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 179 ovens, and kilns, had been erected at a cost of about £2000 and employment had already l)eeii given to n large number of per- sons. The quality of the wui-cs uuuiufac- tured was said to be equiil if not superior lo iiiiy imported from abrodd; a number of com- petent workmen had been bronglit out from England, and tJi(! company would shorlly bt: able to supply, not only tlic market of >iovu Scotia, but of the whole Dominion, and of Trineo Edward Island, and Newfoundland. Mr. Blancuard said he was glad to see a a company of UiL-< khid coming in to supply the mai'ket thai would l)e opened to lliem. He was sorry to stiy that tlieir manufactur<'>< would bo met by a duty of ton per cent, in Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland, but the Canadian market was open to them. Hon. Mr. Tkooi* sjiid that the conipaii\ would be obliged to pay the duty in anolhei way in the Dominion. Mr. Blanc'iiaud introduced a bill to incor- porate the Stanley Gold Company of Slier- lirooke. Mr. DksBiusay pi >ented a petition from ii resident at !Mahone Hay, asking a grant of land in consideration of inilitjiry sen'ices. Referred to the Crown Laud Committee. Mr. Blanciiaud presented a p(!tition from a peison who had been appointed a commis- sioner to erect a breakwater, and who had been nmde liable for damages in consequence of a trespass conuuitted. KAILWAI PAMAGES. Hon. Mr. Troop presented several i>etitions relative to the appraisement of damitges on the line of the Windsor and Anna]>olis Railway, in Annapolis County. He said it was well known that Annapolis was one of the oldest and finest agricultiiral counties in the Province, that the land of the comity was very valuable, and that the railway i-an thix)ugh its most fertile and valuable tracts for a distance of thirty miles. Under the Railway Act, which was a most im- provident one, the Company hwl located the line in the most crooked form, apparently -with the object of taking the most valuable land. The jurj', in assessing the damages, had ignored the rights of tlie proprietors, The petitions were signed by all the claimants, and set out all the facts of the case. AU the pai-tics interested had appealed from the assessment to the Su- preme Com-t, the Chief-Justice had sent some of the causes to be tried in the county, but none of them had been tried, and the Chief Justice had recommended the parties to apply to the Legislature for redress. For that purjioso this application was being made, and was backed by disinterested freeholdere of tlie county. To his own obsei-vation gross injustice had been done in a large number of cases. Many of the per- sons complaining had labored for hah"n, lifetime on tlieir lands, and saw their property destroj'od befoi-e their eyes without a cliance of anytlung but a nominal remuneration. The inhabitants of Kings and Hants Counties were interested likewise ui this matter. He would a.sk to have the petitions refcn-ed to a select committee. Hon. Atty. General hoped that great atten- tion would be paid to the prayer of the pe- titions. The Statute gave a very exti-aordinaiy and arbitrary power to the Company, enabling them to take the lands of private pewons at a rate of remuneration to l)e Rxed by n jury WN said he was very glad that at- tention had been called to this sutyect. Much (ILscontcnt existed in King's county as well ad Anna]K)lLs, and ho hojied that King's would be included in any action that might be taken. • The petitions were referred to the following gentlemen as a select Committee : Messrs. Blaiuhard, Smith, DesBiisay, Purdy and Chambers. Hon. Mr. Trikip presented petitions from Clins. Wiswell, of "W'ilmot, and Sophia Spig- gott on the same subject. Thej- wor« referred to th« same Committee. PETITION. M r. I'ouNo presented a petition ft-om Geo. A. IJoyd lor an increase of salarj'. Refeired to Committee on Crown Lands. inebriate ASYLI'M. !Mr. Kirk presented a petition from Charles Robson, and otliei-s, for the establishment of an asylum for inebriates He said that this was a subject wliich had enguy;ed tlie attention of the tempei"ance men of the Province for some time. The necessity for action on the part of this le- gislature waa becoming evei-y day more appa- i-ent, and he trusted that the House woi .d give the petition a favorable consideration. Mr. Blanchard agreed that this subject had long occupied public attention. The Lunatic Asylum had been recently largely extended, and there was in coui-sc of erection in Halifax a building called a Poor's Asylum and City Hospital. He would suggest as a practicable view of the question that some arrangement might be made for the establishment of such an asylum as that alluded to in the petition in con- nection with one of those institutions. Hon. Atty. Gene ivl said that ho was* about to make uiilar observation. The Lunatic A.sylum naJ not been completed; it re({uired an additional wing, and perhaps tlie Govennnent could not do better thtm to com- plete tliat edifice and apply tlie new portion to the treatment of inebriates. Ke was perfectly satisfied that such an institution as that asked for would be an inconceivable blessing to thi : countrj-. It would tend to check the evils of intemperance into which numbers of young men are gradurJly falling, and the project would therefore receive his warmest support. The petition was referred to a select Com- mittee, consisting of Messrs. Kirk, Blanchard, Hon, Atty. General, MmTay and Chambers. IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) V. // O iP.r y. * 1.0 [f i^ m I.I 1.25 Jf ^ 12.2 1^ U£ 12.0 R III 1.6 p /i <^ /a ^. m. 'a V ^ c/^ /i^ Photographic Sciences Corporation 'a ^r^^ . *^^ % ^ 23 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, NY, 14580 (716) 872-4503 r^ 180 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS I ni M: HILLS. Hon. Mr. Thoop introduced a Bill to amcid Chap. 123, Rev. Stat., " Of tlie Supreme Court and its Officers," the' object of the bill being to change the time for holding the wittings at Digby. • The Legislative Council announced by mes- sage that they had puascd a bill to incoipoi-att; the Block House Mining Company, and had agreed to a number of the Acts of Incorporation sent up from the Assembly. Mr. TOAVNSEND introduced n Bill to Ineorjio- rate the Chicpgo Gold Mining Company- of Xo- va Scotia. The House adjourned to the next ve that the Act was unconstitutional, and therefore negatory and void. The answer now comes from the high(>st authority tlL^t we nmst obey it, because it is the law of the hmd and we cannot reject it ; and I am proud that I can appeal to the House and country and ask if I was not right in the constitutional la\\- which 1 laid down list winter. I feel that no better eWdence could be gi^ en of the correctness of the doctrines which I held than tlie iwpere now before the House. I shall say .lothing in respect to the (opinion which we are to \wxc to-moiTow, ex- cept that it comes, I believe, from the highest constitutional lawyers in the United ICingdom, and they are second to none on the face of the earth. Let this Hoase be careful now. The Go^■ornment has once already propounded a doctrine which has been found unconstitution- al and untnie, and the House should deliberate seriously before stultifying itself again. Dele- gates of sianding and ability have g(me to Eng- land with eonain Resolutions and an addreas passtid by this House, and Avhal did thev do ? Did they prosent it ? No, they presented a case to the liritish Parliament, in ivliich these rerij resolutions were ignored, or merely re- feiT(-t to. I liold their case under my haiid, as p.ublished in the Morning Chronicle of lltli April last, and all that it says on the subject is found m the folloiving sentences : — " The Local Legislature met in January, when a series of Resolutions were unanimously adopted by the House of Assembly, followed by an address to the Crr>^^-Tl M'hicJi declarei that " The loyal people of Nova Scotia do not desire to be in any manner confederated with CJunada" praymg her Majesty " to revoke her l)roclamalion and to cause the British North .Vnierica act to be repealed, so far as it cts the Province of Nova Scotia." That case contiuiis the grounds on which the delegates demanded a Repeal of the Act; but why is it that the resolutions are not em- 1,'odied in it ? or why is it that they do not nisist that I'ariiament jiad no right or power to pass thi! lav, •> Perliajjs when we have the legal oianion in question we shall be able to undei-stand the reason. How was it then no member of the House of Lords or of the House of Commons could be found to advo- cate the resolutions jjassed, it is said— althongii I doubt it — "unanhnous'y" in this Legisla- ture y I have no doubt that the delegates did all Ihey could, but they were only able, we know, to get Mr. Bright, a ^lci^..edtV<^.V.2.mstr^^^ not. They had .pa:^j:c ^^f^«f Xient iu whatthoy^honld^^^^^^ «"^* '^'^^•*''^'" SoEn" Id a\i"addres3 based thoveou lutions adopted by thi., "'^^"^'^ •'"',' ^ they inenc tho strong feeling, ot !"« ""^^^ "^^V.^i^,, the people of Nova Scotia upon t lie qm o Confederation; f;>an/j«y «r« « ,f '•>, , ,,of to accept «"yi'/'/,«l^,°","/ hereby author- ;i::^;S='^orSbS^:-rbo - '"^utiu be seen that tlie delegates wove to ask ,j\^:?^^i.onorthec.i^U^^^ preaented oj a g< "n^ ,i,„„ifi 1,0 onvneil out. Ls/o that its P^'^?"f,.*"tUv asked lor a Mr. Bright, an I ^'^'V t? ihe 00m Uunts on commission to ^^j^^^^^^^ ^m the ihiH question, and he s.ud li. uu ^^^^^^^^^^ here nuti! tli<^ result ol he app' ^^ ,. tained. 1 do not complinn ol th /"" "f ^ rdelegates.hodoubtfe^ac;te.H-thc,^t, when they found 1 hey "'^"^-V '■■"„,,;. i^i, purlia- tiingfe man to brhig belorc tlw Butisii nient the doctrines laid ''«,^" Jb> ,'es? ^n^^ Wher the FOtest was p"W^ed b^^^t^^i^^^^^^^^ tlcmen, ^*'« <:0""1^/' tl' Xe nprli<-atio» ho lion. m-mber tor fjl^^^ '^^^^^^ and it is a ^'"T ;KS^SK'•hSw^^ voice n..g- wonder aiat tnej "" ' , riisreganhng their i»«»i'"c;hmis 1 lus n ^^^^^^^^ .^. ^^^^ a C'ovmis^iov • ' "*' Vil rloverument could Attorney C^eneral and 1- J^M-™ \e„ij,,, ,, l,.Avc pemiaded the """^j^fiea ,vitli such a wa.s htst waiter ^^ .,»%Ct^iestion Tfthe „,ode of deahng ^vlt 1 ^ '^^^^^"X applica- ^.ttional 'lo^trine aid doMi in ^be^ccc ^^^^^ to ^''^'f'^fJ'.'^lSthe opinion of the peo- trie only way m wlucn ineuy j^ggi^irdure Council." yne ^J ""'" tendencies hue the g,ntlcn>an ot Coi«ervam l ^u ^^ •l'^"""'\S\Tme3;tLm to the present "'"''• t5^ he rople^ioistitutionally express- oase. H'^'^\*"'',V,7,,„i„„,ites should go uome ' gether, as I thmk, i ha^ e ^ J ,. .solutions ortN\oag(t. in. ^^^^^^^^ ^,_^j. 1 louse but shll .'^ ^\*^^'' ,^„ ^ny be-withoul: what the wislies o the l'«f I '; ^^ ^.^.^ueil it is ' 11''>^<^-"PTnm Te iiatf^^-<•"lv the act of ■i^;;s:ev:::.^th;ibethenK.timport.mt ''^£s been said thronghout.this controversy thai tluM-ple and Go^.;vmlU.U^^^ l„,me ioi ^be r"|l , ^^ t,,,,^ tlie people with any g!"'f' ^''^'" ,;i o vi V i now read ^IveMr. Urigb <;-^."VV "^ °V. ^he House of ^•"'"'''■•aSdtUlX-.thSV charged ;,rs" <^«"^- ^£:iszz articular, ^vith having passed the Act mow C'/l /).. people were opposed to it.- And I 182 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS I proved it by tlie Earl's owi apeech of tlie pi-p- vious seasioii." Mr. Bright said: ' Isav not only do they (the Nova Scotiaiia) not consent, but more, the Government of this country knew perfectly well that they were not con- senting 2>rirties." And when quoting th(! Karl of Carnarvon to jirove tiiat the IJritish < Jovernnient knew the sluto ol' feeling in Aovu Seotiu, he said : " This ia the senteneo in which tlie JCarl of CarnuiTon ex7.res,ses hia feelings on the mat- ter." 'If Parliament now dela>.H, delay may mean an nidetinito po.stponemeni. If v.»! no,v remit it, I eiire not on ^vllat pretence, to the tnrther consideration of the provinces, we d(>- liberately invito ojjposition, and wo may be >^ure that many yeara will pa.sa over before another such proposal for contederation is snbnntted to Parlianifnt' It iw clear froi-i lliat 'hat the Earl of Oarnaiv on knew what was going on in the colony, huw entirely dis- mtisjied the peofde there were with the pro- ceedings of this Partiument; and he feared thatij there were any delay— iw the Bill « onld not ]7a.s.s if No^-a Scotia was not inclnd. ed— andtlK, question wils remitted to the de- cwion of the j.eoplo of Nova Scotia, the idea ot the iederation of all the colonies would not be carried out for many yeais to come." Can I qnote any better autiiority for Anli- L niomsts than Mr. Bright ? He "tells n.s that tlic Ji-arl of Carnarvon was not deceived~\ha.X, tie knew and the Imjierial Government knew perlectly well the sentiments of the peojile on the subject; and yet it has been aiuiounced again and a,v,tiii in every conceivable sliaiie tnat the LTnion delegates told a falsehood. I'rorn whom did the Earl (if Carnarvon obtain his mlormation except from the dele<'ates ' J.'ho Earl knew jierfectly well that Avhen a great question of this character had to he p-ay-sed uj)on, very u\any issues would lie mi.xeil up with it ; hut lie felt that to postiione the question at that crLsis would be to t ostiione it indetinitely. I do not hesitate to say that under our con- stitution then* was no practical mode of get- ting hold oJ the o))inioiis of the people except by the Legislature, and 1 am glad the Attoi'ney General has ut last admilied tliatio bo tlieonlv ccn^titutional mode. I took some jiains last vyuitertoshow that we had not the niaehinerv thoy have in the United States ; for as it has been, and ls now, it is quite clear that let any Uoveniment go to the people upon a quesfioil no matter what it is, the jHipularity or uniiop- lilanty of the Govenvaenl will to'a very lar^'e e?;tent decide the issue. AVhen the late Pi"- inier. Dr. 1'u))]>er, brought down that sweeii- mg measure of education, if he had dissolved tilt! House, how many who suiiuorlcd the bill would have been returned ^ As clean a sweei) would have been the result as ^\■e have seen made of the Union supjiortei-s. In New Bruns- %vick, when the (Jovcniment went to the country it wa:s badly beaten. I cannot enter Into all the canseg now ; but a few months af terwards theii- successors went to the coun- try and sustained an equally grievioiw deieat. I come now to the most important imrt of the question before this Hous,e, and I atiproaeh itloehng the deep responsibility which has been uuposed on me— a responsibility which taxes my powers beyojKl their capacity but I shall endeavor to di.scharge my duty to the best of my abiUty. I will now take up the first reso- lution which has been hud before the House by the Government. The Attorney General told us the olher day " that if one of the propo- sitions of a .syllogism be fidse, the entire con- clusion must b(! lalse also." Now, if I jn-ove to the House that the very lirst resolution em- l>o(lies a i.ositive and iialjiabli! untruth— to the effect that " Confederation " was never named in this country b(>foi'e 1866— then we may legi- timately assume that all of these resolution j are based on a fallacy and unworthy of cri;- donee. Now the first resolution says that the word " Confederation " was "never named in any resolution nroved for adoption in the Le- gislative Assembly of this Province previous to 1S66, although the subject of Colonial Union has been from time to time di.scassed in this House on general terms, without aftirnnng thu desire of this Province to become a narty to a Legislative or Federal Union." The ' next re- solution goes on to assert that th«i " resolution nun-ed in the Legislature of Nova Scotia in 18o4 makes no mention of Confedemtion." Hon. Attouvkv Gknekal— None was " moved for adojrtion." Mr. Blanchaud.— A\Tiat did Mr. Johnston mmo the lesolution for ? Was it not to obtain an address to the Queen upon it when adopted? The hoii. gentleman has certainly found "a mare's nest." Then, I presume, the present resolutions were not moved for adoption. These gentlemen quote the very resolution moved by Mr. John-ston, and assert that tlie word " Contederation " is not contained in it; but we hive the public records to refer to, and what >l> we find? I have before me the au- thorized rc])ort.s of 18i34, as published in the British Colonist oi February a, of that year. I find that the resolution reads as follows: "Resolved that the Union or Confederation of the British North American Provinces on just princijiles', while calcidated to perjJetuato the connection with the parent State, will pro- mote their advancement and jirosperity, in- crease their sU-ength and influence, and elevate their position. "Resolved, ThatllLs Excellency the Lieuten- ant-Governor, by address, be respectfully re- quested to make known to Her Majesty the Queen, and to the Governments of the sister Provinces of Canada, New Brunswick and P. K. Island, the opinion of this House and its de- sire to promote the object; and that His FJx- cellency, by correspondences with the Imperial iind Provincial Governments, and all means in His Excellency's power, urge and facilitate the consideration of a iniui.snre which, if matured on i)rincii)les satisfactory to the several Provin- ces and cal(!ulated to secure their harmony and bring into action their co!.,olidated sti-ength, m^wst result in lasting benefits of incalculablJ value." Hon. Ally. Gkxeral.— The hon. gentleman should consult the Journals of the House. Mr. Blancharu.— I quote from the Colo- nist, then the journal by which the hon. gentle- man swore, aa well as the lam. member for tjiieens, (Mr. Smith), but not only have we the n solution as I have read it, but \ye have the ivmarks of Mr. Johnston, Mr. Howe, Mr. \ oung, and of the j)resent Attorney -General hiHiscii. li" the AlLorney General of to-day wiU I OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 183 «nlv adopt the doctrines of the SBinc gentleman ?n 1854 L rr-gards Union, I ahall bo quite con- tent altl^ngh it is very doubtful if they wil be TceiS^ t« the pcoplo of this cotu.tiy. Hn. reSion, the Houbc is a^yare, wa. introduce hv the Hon. Mr. Johnston in a very abh^ Seech, in which the folio *v'ing remarks oecm- : '^-rhe motion I am about to ^^^J^^ Snoaker will I am sure commend itselt to mo SgB of this House. TheHon. Prov Soc^^ ol us ye«tercky that it was the futy oi Nov^ Scotians to boa-st; and if we may look to there port he yesterday brought m-we . ' J ^now L)W to do that. To ray mind Sir, I 1^,0*/"^' Sy more importance that we «l^ould ^lavc Lmethingtoboastof; if we can «' «v»te «^ position, imi^rove our f^o^^^^'/^h tve nnr strength, and g ve to us that viiicn wt- ?>1 eaiS V yeaTn for-somcthing ol nation- "un-^shall we refase to avail oui-selves ol the oppommity. Let us blow onr tnimpets as Sv aswe please, still little Nova S.otia Xt remain ju't as she is, nay N^ew liruns- S and even Canada must to acortxun extent hclindted and controlled in ilmr progress J^l^'.^^Aemain -tl>?"t t.atbna cWcto influereo or position. Ever since I tiivt con temSd this subject under the auspices ot a Sof extended tident and -S-ious ™md-^ allude tc Lord Durham,— my eyes liavc oten sieadlaBtly fixed upon the period when it could be accomplished, and I now beheve that a T. veme^l in thJt direction /;io..YKX4' by the smallest and least intluential ofl^^^tluee ^ovinces may produce results favorable to its speedy aecompUshment." Hoi. ATTORNEV GENKUAi.-Mr. Johmton is a great Confederate. Mr Blanchard— It is because h8 considerable space; I will notice the leading portions : . , ^t c^^*;„ The Caiiadas, New Brunswick. Nova Scotin, P E. Island and Newfoundland to '» joined in n Federal Union under the name ol Bntish North America, with a Secretarj-, and office in Dowmng street, and a Vicj Regent and ted- er^r Legislature. Each Piwdnce to have its Local Legislature, the Legislative Council ol which was to be elected. The powera of the Generrl Government were to be the imposition qf taxes, duties and im-^ posts which should be uniform throughout the C-inces, to as,sume and pay the debts ol the "rious Provinces, and provide lor the peace and welfare of the Union, to establish c.mmici- cM regulations between the different Piovm- CCS and foreign comitries, delemime .hsputes. &c., &c., &c., promote intornal inT«'venients, regulate Post Office, militia, &c., &c. A bu- n-cmo Court being also a Court ol Appeal, kc &c A subsequent resolution passed against the election of tli<. Legislative Council. Here is presented « scheme qf Confedera- lion evidently prepared with care, and wor hv o?consideration, which it i. to be regret ed has not been pressed upon the notice 01 the dilVereiit Provinces." . Now what I have read to you shows qu to distinctly that Mr. Johnston, then the leaden- of the opposition, discussed the question of Confederation. Mr. Howe and Mr. \ oungun^ equivocally declared that they wcrenot prepaicd for a Legislative Union, whilst Mr. Johnston .,„(l Air. Wilkins dccliu-ed Ihoiusolves in its la- 'vour. 1 wished I possessed the elocal legislatures, and com- prisi? them in one great Central I'arliament. 1 agree with him, but can he make his follow- ci-s sui)i)orl biin? The hon. gentleman deelared the other day that the people should select the .Senate, as they did the Legislative Councilloi-s; but wlait did he .say in 18!'54. U'lien h(! laid down tin- doctrine that the Legislative Council .'should emanate from the Queen only and be appoint- ed under an Act of Parliament, in order that they might he an independent body. He said : " Till' independence ol" the House of Lords is lla' backbone of the IJrilidi eoni-1ilu1i;)n. Standing as Ihey dob(>l\veen tlie Crown and the pcojiie, they hy their intrinsic weight are at all times able by leaning to the one side or the other to keep tiie scale e\ en. ♦ * * if the Kuig )>rev!ulea we should have a monar- chical despotism — if the people a grinding democracy. The independence ot the House of Lords, is, I , say, ihe strength, the marrow, and pith qfthe British constitution. "\V'h(;re is the indeijcndencc then of our Le- gislative Councils? Who mokes them;-' Whence do they derive their dignity? Whv sir, the Tuembers of these bodies are picked up from the mass of the people at the caprice ol a governor — dubl)ed honorable — without a shadow of independence — liable to be blown away like the chaff before the wind, the very wa^\- sometimes the contempt of their follow subjects." He (the Attorney General) then described as follows, the mode in which an independent Upper House or quasi House oi' Lords wa.^ to i)e mannliictured for us : " Before I nuggust the mode of procuring the House of Jjords, I would call your atten- tion to the signal advantages to be derived from a Union ot the Colonies aiul the con- struction of one House of Represeintativcs foi the whoL\ There can he nothing. Sir, in my estimation, more frivolous and contempti- ble than a deliberate Legislative Assembly on a small scale. In a Hou.se composed of 50 or 60 membcrt, one or two artful, men will always manage to I'orm a party, sufficiently strong to bear down ojjposition, and conse- iiueully Mr. A. or Mr. B. beecmeo virtually the autocrat of the colony. IS'ot so hi a body consisting of hundreds of inthviduals, chosen Irom and represent ing a variety of distinct and divei-sified interests. In such an iissemblv we shoidd escape the i)etty intrigues and jioll- tical juggles, which are so disgusting in s iialler bodies, and the evil of which has been, and is still felt in all the colonies as at present con- stituted. The lipase of Assembly of Canada ran at the heels of Papineau .ill he led them into rebellion, and n,«ed liis own heels to escape the conseiiuences of abusing the mis- placed (!0nlidence of his ignonmt foUowei-s, and the possibility of coming in for a share of the honoi-s, which in those days were some times bestowed upon treason, in a manner a little different from the method recently in vented by the Canadian Legislature, and jiatented by an illu.stri(ms bungler who tigured at the head of the Colonial tJthce. In Nova Scotia, too, a certain " good shepherd" has trained the sheep to follow him as bhndlv and confkhngly as ho could . y "" Iftre Ev it ? Don't both bi-anches ot thm Le- Satur7by overwhelming majorities, rleclar 24 Attorney General himself, has been made lu a 'T{f itsfsaTMr? Wilkins, there exists a Ureifor these f ^P^^^^/ Gr/a7S"' r.:^rtf l^^r v^Ttever^may be. their fat«/' S?w he contends that no change is "«««; ?haUhehappmessof]So>-a Scotia -der th. fov chaneed it unquestionably has. A cou ™S«, .nd »- -f»'"J',Crn m'm- l;rndo™60gu»™.,M.«>.JjJ « *^^ were in the nudst ot a large ''«)^''\J'\ . ■ , _- '°^*°rSSy"^"5ShSg' forever. under the necessiiy y. .,{\ discover tlie &r»d°ct«™o«heir a,gM. toll.- the question ot Union, « J"^ ,g ^^as accom- -S5n^.o»;.9s'ii5^ or a Union ol tbc Colonies. i.n^J' ^»^ ^- 186 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS •aev a tuo&t elaborate investigation into tli(! riuestion, having made an arrangement by which Nova Scotia waa to build three and a. half twell'tliaol' the proposed road. Upon ex- amination of tUe trade statistics of the country, it was found that free-trade without Union was ou. of the question— to allow whis- key and other Canadian manufactures to come into this eonntiy wliile we are separate provin- ces wai9 seen to be injurious to our iutt. rests. I need not tell the House that the an-angcment relcrred to fell through. Hence the Inter- colonial Ruilway was making no progres.^, free Iraile was '^eli:ved to be out of the ques- tion ; and tlie public men of tlio provinces came to the conclusion that the order of things must be revei-sed — that we must have Confed- eration lirst. Let me ask then en passant whether when we were ready to build the 3^ twellthsof Uie road we Avould have got the money for 3 J per cent, as avc do now when we Inii Id only one-tenth of the line. These resolutions speak of the necessity ol setting this question at rest. It is certainly time these matters were allowed to settle down quietly. How long is this country to bo ar'itated '^ The Attorney Gencn-al will tell yoi;, until we have got rid of Confederation. Capi- tal is to be prevented coming into the Pro- vince—the people arc to he kept constantly elicited, and tlifir best interests jeopardized We have sent delegates across the water— but we could not find a single person m the Com- mons or Lortls to advocate Repeal— all that jMr. Bright could do was to ask for a Connms- sion of Enquiry; and yet the people arc to be agitated still further in order to get what can never be obtained. In the House of Connnons we were sub- .slantially told : Vou are practically free of Great Britain. You are now large enough to manage your own affaiw. Pass what laws yo\i please, as long as they do not conflict with Imperial interests. You are free to manage yoiu' own affiiii-s,- and you have the sei-vice.s of the army and navy of the mother country for nothing, to protect you from insult and aggression. Instead of sending you a delega- tion composed of men who know noUnng ol your local affiiiw, we have reconunended that the Administraiiou and Legislature of Canada should enquire into the .subject of your gncv-- ances and reUeve vou of any burthens which unliurly bear upon you. Well the govenimeut, or rather its most prominent membei-s, came down here with the view of conciliating the country— of hearing the gi-ievances of tho people; just what an English Commission would have had to do. But you were too proud to tell your grievances; perhniis you did not reallvkiiow what the difHeulty was. iS'ow suiipose five or six gentlemen had come Ironi Ei.t'land ; the government would have gone to them and said tlwt they desired such and s'ach amendments; but they acted very diH<'i- ently in the case of the Canadians. The.y >vill have nothing but Repeal, foi-sooth. What have we been hearing I'or the pa-^t t\vo years ? What were the great grievances that the hon. member for East Halifax (Mr. An- ■nand) was constantly speakuig ot? ^hey were of a iinancial chai-acter— that Confedeiii- tion embamissed our finance?, mid this Pro- viuce yy&a iig'tuvcd ftom oae eu(;l lo the omav with the cry that we werw robbed. ^Vhat hw the Attorney (tcncral just told us ? " It id not the want of money that is the diflioulty. If you gave us all the money in the Dominion Ti-ea^ury, we would not be reconciled to this Ckmfederation, for we must get otttrtt'it." Wc have had a great many culcuMiotw on this financial question, but iiotv much faith can the House place in them. Last winter 1 proT rd that Canada, up to that time had expended !J400,000 moi"C than she had received; that was not contradicted; but what did we have ? We had a financial calculation from the hon. mem- ber for Kings (Mr. Dickie) from Mr. Jones, and from Mr. M(;Lellan. Now see the re- markable discrepancy in these calculations. On the single article of Sugar, Mr. Jones eati- mated $57,952; Mr. McLellan .f45,185; mak- ing a difTerenee of $12,767. On tobacco, Mr. Jones estimated $39,942; Mr. McLellan $22, 645; difference $17,297. On paper, Mr. Jones $3,372; Mr. McLellan 6,000, difTereneo $2, 628. On Petroleum Oil, Mr. Jones $7,698; Mr. McLellan $20,000; difference $12,302. The total amount of the diflbrence in the cal- culations of these hon. gentlemen stands thus ; Jones $60,000; McLellan $471,000; difference $229,000. Tlio hon. member for King'8, on the other hand, made the gross amount $732,- 014 more than Mr. Jones had ventured to show. If I shall show you now that we have lieen actually gainers by $400,000 then I shall prove that Mr. Jones and Mr. McLellan were actually wrong by a million of dollar*, and Mr. Dickie by more than that amount. The hon. Tieasurer has endorsed the iinancial ability of the financial agent of the Dominion (Mr. Tims) and from that gentleman I learn that this t;ountry has drawn from Canada more than it has paid for current expenses — leaving out payments for capital — $395,618, from the 30th June, 1867, to July 1st, 1868. Tf that be true, then Mr. Jones and Mr. McLellan have mis- calculated to the e:!ftent of nearly a million. I give this statement on the autlumty of Mr. Tims, who has spent seveml months here ar- mnging our financial affairs, and who the lead- er of this government has assei-ted is thorough- ly comjifMnit and reliable. Now let me give you a ca., ulation of my own, which I have taken some pains to prepare : Calculation showing Amount cxpend^d and received by Dominion Government in 1867 and 1868. Total expenditure in Nova Scotia from June 30, 1867, to July 1, '68, $2,265,233 Deduct capital 696,305 1,568,928 Amount arrears collected from Col- lectors 116,204 Interest paid in London on debt there and interest in excess of arreai's . . 1,452,724 362,000 1,814,724 Less whole revenue collected in Nova Scctia from July 1, 1867, to June 30, 1868 1,434,504 Balance expended in Nova Scotia by Dominion ftovprnment be- yond amount received 380,200 AVhat hM ' "It id not iflioulty. If I Dotniniou i'ed to this t otttot'it." uMJOtlB OD ich faith can nt«r I proT ,d expended ed) thatwaA have ? We e hon. mem- Mr. Jont's, .se« the r« calculations. Jones eati- 16,185; mak- ohicco, Mr. Lellan JJ22, ir, Mr. Jones Fcrenco $2,- ones ||(7,698i ice yi2,302. in the cal- stands thus ; 0; difference king's, on nount $[732,- ventured to that we have thon I shHll Lellan wore lait*, and Mr. >. The hon. iul ability of n (Mr. Tims) am that this more than it -leaving out ■om the 30th that be true, II have mis- ti million. I ►rity of Ml", ths here ar- who the lead- I is thorough- w let me give lich I have cpended and merit in 1867 ;ia 8, !j(t2,265,233 696,305 ol- m to tia tie- 1,568,928 116,204 1,452,724 362,000 1,814,724 1,434,504 b80,2(W OF THE HOUSE Oi Ai3SEMBLY. 187 Ilmvr left out everj- Item ^h"* {f Pr°}!';;'J^ fhuriteable to capital. I make the bftJ.;»Jf^ ^offilv exi^ended «1.568.928 excepting ot this ^mnSSt holever-Iho CoUectoi^ f f ^'luh Ca^toua owed f 116.204 on ^^^^^^.f^V-L and I deduct that and wc liave f •452-<24. In London we owed a large debt, th •- inter J ol' which must be paid semi-annual y and h was pS by the DoiUion Governmc.U. and b nroDorly chargeable to this province. " 'sow 1 ask you ilNova Scofia had novo ,„enConlederktcdon wlmt «'de, would th balance bo. The whole amount ol .■xpondi mZ wou d bo .f 1.814.724, ..nd the vjholo Rovenrwas onlv 1.434.504 ; leaving a balance S>380-200. I, nay be told that 1 cann,,t ho ooirect because I am not a man o. figmos liKf Mr Timrand thei-c is a difference betv eon tat gSman and myself: Tliis is pai^ uc- mmtod for thus. Mr. Tims charges the n- S to be paid at 7 per cent.; ^^^ althomrh the inton^t is 6 per cent, yet wo must Sdl per cent, tor the difference in e.xchango to hut at all events the amount as I nmke in thus #380.200 as the excess S iv Canada over all the revenues Sen bv Nova Scotia. I ask the hon. me.,n Saibi King's, or the Finance Minister o go to the public oflices, and obtain f *;"= ) j formation on the question, and li thej vmu SnTeathousixnd dollars «hort of my eakula- f • .Vt will bo very much mistaken. It ^ o\ n Sootii had 1 ever joined Canada, and had gone on £ne! she would have gone boh.ndhanu to the Srtont of .1^380,000. I boli.>ve that the Fro4S SeereUxr^ has been as economical as Jifinhis power, biit he was powerless to S-e'ent this s^te of atiair.. ^e Jave he^rd a good deal about tbe arreai^, and let us see what thev came to. 1 am glad that the l ro ScU Secretx-ry was candid enough to say hat the Hill-Blanchard government coukl no do otherwise than they did. We -ere obliged ,o use all the subsidy m order to me^t the order to meet them we were obliged to cuaw he subsWv. 'I'V^cn there was the Windsor audrnnapolisRadway to be taken into con- titration! Now, when.the ^oj^^-^^--^ in and said that it was impo.ssiblc to cai r j cm the public affaii-s without money, '1«1 *«J'^ vdL Administration say, yon "'"-"^ ^^^^^^ , swim, as you can. No, they said ^^""ZS^^ vou blick the money; tell us >v f^ the .uij^s •::;;: r/' -addeTit t'L wed debt of the oun^v ITicv gave»us|sometlni.g ike %v and Annapolis i^^^^Xf / ' ^Al:^? \i ^ bal Peter's Canal: ^"d you ^ lU hnd that^ic M_ SL^^I^iefKnteSdStlLS^^^^^^^^ Ji^fwaVn debt #318,488 for the expenses ot Ih "c^^nt year. ' I give the calculaUon : Calculation showing arrears Jiie hy A^ova Scotia for year 18b7 • Paid in arrears by Dominion Gov- ^^^^ t-mment -. • • ' ' ' '^ ' Deduct as capital Windsor & A. R. R. • • $^l\'fJi ] . . 426,19.0 St Peter's Canid . . 34,bUO > ^ #434,692 DfHlnction reclaimed from Coilec- ^^^^ tors for arrears ' #318,488 T am not to be told that this was incurred by •i reckless and e.vtr.nagant government ; 1 tas noi a member of it, or i" a-y -^y «J°,"„ «ih1o for its expenditures. But let it not m- Sgotlen that \he then government made lar^e c.mtracts, at the instance and with tlie Si^mt of the.'Logi^ature, for pubhc ^£7- ^uch as the Picton Railway, the Lun'«.«v ^8) lum nie Public Building opposite, which cost Sut ^OOW, was a legacy f-m th^r P- SstS^^^ro^s'^^^-'^ Tov^de #318,000 for arreax-s, besides mor. ased ;„tf.rp«t as T shall presently nhew. Tdo not wonder that we'are told that hnan- c.i.a rofonn will not do, because when we come to consider that question ^ve see at a glance haTtrtVionds of Confederation 'Jj-e "f ^j^^^.J we are wrong. But is the surn that I hav e >4tated 'dl that " ve owe to Canada ? 1 speaK "i C-mada not as a sepanite Pi-ovince, but of the • DoSon of Canachi. and I cannot undei-stand l/r observ-ations which sometimes allude to ganataTaltinctoountry. Canad^^^^^ s^%;xs^^urst^--^^ xi^iSr^-inui^ra^ for the Intercolonial Railway ? Not -^iartni g '•'"^^l^^'SSS ng'l^a^k t:The In -per morrow, msteaa oi bun b twenty pei- s-^crd.rswind;--<^f^p^f cent, loouuu "' pater's Canal, and to i;Sn^r%rSic;afSL^v pay 101 "":,.. „^ To ffo back to the ten hicrlier even than that, lo go uacn. nignei evil . „« ti,^ -..pqtion for with that S^^;^^'S^S?iB,OOOinalngle 188 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS ynar. I lonve thia branch ol'thp question say ing a« I said More that if my culculationa are erroneous I wish them to to corrected, i am anxious to see the finance minister of the go- vernment, who has the same access to th« sources of infomation n« I had, undertake to convince the people of this couutry that if we were free from Canada to-day we could go ou and manage our aflaii's as before tlie Union. I have referred to the Provincial building,MU(l I will now refer to the policy of the govern- ment on that subject. £60,000 of the public money went into that building. I do not com- plain of the expenditure, I was one of the sup- porters of the government llmt authorised it, and I still believe it was a wise appropriation because it has been demonstated tliat the building is a saving to the I'rovinoc Ly econo- mizing in the way of rents. But what is the Ittct ? Since April that building has been unoccupied. The interest on its cost is $1,000 per month and that sum the treasury of this uttle Province is paying for an unoccupied building. This is done for the sake of an idea and that only. Suppose to-morrow we had re peal, or next year — wliut then ? Will we not have to pay the airears of the rent ? We will not allow a Canadian oftlcial to set foot in the building, but we must the moment we are free pay the rents which are running on in tlie meantime for the Post office and Custom House and the interest on the cost of the building is being paid in the meantime. I-et the Canadian officials into the now building, and if we got lepeai next week we should still oe saving at the rate of $10(/0 per month. For the sake of a mere idea as I have said the government shut up a building that cost #200,000 and will not alio \v a Dominion oflicial to set foot in it. I mention this matter in discharge of my duties as a laember in opposition, and I feel tliat it is a blessing for this country that there is an oj)- position however small and inefficient, perhaps the day may come when the government will be no longer troubled by me, and when they wiU have no one to coil Ihem to account. Feeble and impotent as my powers may Ixi it is well that they should be exerted to lay thia Becip.-ocity tc'ctionoftheAsheries. I»VOttliciio ^^^ " -wihat Treaty a" ^f vJova Scotia pays "^tlung or v ^^^^^ ""T^ „Jinnns see this country agi- For contingent ex,ier.^es be 1'"^- '^"","J,l„,aii, long as Uie Amen^^^^J-^^har, and if we be, of .«200,000, and said it was entiielj tcKi , ^.^.^^^ ^^^ end to tne o ■ ^^^ ^. S *: we silcb an .te.m ol expend'^^»: ^^ cap- Ueve the ^^^T ° he coXn 'of Mexico pubUc accounts. ^^^^V u n, i^rtions were moit aPP^^*''^^ ^fficuWes, we may expect Lie, that his P'-t'^^^?::' toS^^pon these ready to i^sh '"to Jftem .^^ ^^ Treaty,- coiTect. I wish the Hoase^ to iook V ^^^ t^ey will hesitate w ^^^ —weread it ind-ea m tue i--' it 190 DEBATES A\n PROCEEDINOa owing Hv ii' ■^'•m ■ t«>penl ol'iJie Iteciprof^iu Trroty v probably lo f uniciJiuutioii. I ask House li' it feels disposed to nvuvX abroad Huch a fallapv iu tl»t ■> WJmt Jmd Confedemtiou to do wifh tb.i repeal of that nn,«iwiiro ? iVothinif what- ever, a» ev.T^bodjr know.^ p;irfectly >yeU. Wh mjre told liwt winter by the hon. member for Pictou Dr. MuiTay, I think, that the Si. Al- ban'gRaifl was the cause of the brogation of Uae Becii.rocily Treaty. No'v v, ...-e^told that It was CoiUwleration that abolished it. We navejiist heard fiiai the 'notorious Ben But- ier —tor such Ls the term applied to him not iiere omy but jn his own country—is about ignnt' 10 Pnnce Edward Island to annnae a Reciprocity Treaty v^ith tliat colony. Do its people imagine that the British Government VMIJ allow such an arrangement and shut tlic other provmccs out ? Such an ari-nTigeinent would make the Island a perfect nest of smug- Rlors; since what would enter iU ports free of duty ^^•ould have to pay 15 per cent, in the neighbouring provinces. It may be sai.l the Legislature ofthe Island can pa*, an act, and Cpngrcss can do the sumo, providing for reci- pvocity m certain product-.; out I't must tli-st get liie royal a-ssent. Suppc^t, it does get that a^sen -and I am quite sure it will not-whut uext f I would hke to Jaiow the value of such reciprocity-dependent on the mere breath of the United States ? It riiight kst for a year and tlien be suddenly ieiTiinnted, there^vy Diaiging ruin upou those who had entered into extensive operations in conwequence of «nch reoijjrocity. I could go back to years before F was born and tell you what happened then. Hon. Attobney Genehil.- Well, well (Iaugf.t«,-.) You are surely an Irishman. . Mr. Blawchakd.— When a man makes a mistake of «i,'200.000, like the hon member did as I have shown you, ho ought to hail from' cork. The Attorney General went back to the time of Queen Anne, but I shul) not go so hir. I go back to the days when the people cl' the Bay oi Fundy were given the privilege of seudang their gypsum free into the United Mates, by Legislative enactment. Tlio conse- quence wtt.s that hundreds of niillg sprung up around the bay; but in a vcar or two the Uni- ted States Legislature swept off the enact- ment, and the iiiiJl ownew Were obliged to 3top work. True and .aluablo. Reciprooitv can only be obtained by a treaty between Great Britain and the United States, and not by legislation. I was much amnaed, a few days ago, to read a corrcsponJeuce m a Boston paper. We know some of the Provinciil papers have had a Washington conesiiondent a l)aid official of the Washington government' a renegade Xova Scoti^n. They sav tiuit when a Xova Scotian becomes a white-washed ankee, he is one of the woi-st Yankees in the tintry. This individual writes lettei-s <,ome which I regret to say are publislied in the vincial press, urging the advantap-es of exation to the United States. I do not know the correspondent of the Boiton Poai— a highl.7 respectable and influential iournal but he lays : ■ j . "The late action of the Nova Scotia Con- vention m resolving that it is necessary to use every means to extricate the people of Nova Seotift from a Confederatibu that has been forced upon them without their consent againt,t their wills, i^ the subject of much ex cited comment in high ol^loial ci.-clw lierf and many Wf li informed persoiw venture u\ predict that tlie ' means ' reforretl to should be interpreted armed resistance, lookin/c to Amer- K-aii sympathy and perhaps annexation. It i$ suggested that tbf people of that distant trovmce are utld enough to anticipate an intervention on the part qf this Govern meat to relieve thevi Jrofi ^)^eir prtent pJittical atsociatet. Some fOnimunicatimu on the subject have bcm received, but Ihei, contents are kept a prq/omd secret." 1 las may be only " buncombe" in the ojvin ion ol some gentlemen, but we have haii sii„,i. lar statements made elsewhere of lato. n.o Washington correspondent of the Boston Post we may be sure, is no nean man, and ho tells us plainly that in high circles in the AmnricHii Capital It IS believed that this country is in such a condition that the people are readv if they can get aid from the United States to re- sort to force agaiifst England. ' I did not Intend referring to the tkct of tlii* country liaving been agitated by the n.ost fran- tic and inconsiderate appeals in tl> > itcss. The organ of the government, owned and edited by the hon. Treasuier and Premier, has actually used language which might well ci-eate the im- pression which is said to exist in Washingtoii VVl. »t IS the meaning of the phrase—" the lantt wit. the westward turning.'' lam glad that such doctrines have been denounced by ' he Attorn y General— that ha wishes no iutiu^u pohticftl counection with that "Sabbath oreakin.j, repudiating, lynching country" of which he spoke so otronglj in 1834. There is another subject to which I must ra- rVj ^" ^**® resolutions before the House Mr Adderiey'a speech i^ severely cocimented upon m these terms : " And tliis House empliati- cally.ecords its deliberate reprobation of the siatementsoftheUnder-Secretai'y for the Co- lonies that the grievances of Nova Scotia ' wei-e rapidly dissipated," and that their re- moval " had been effected to a large extent al- ready," as utterly unti-ue." Now I am goiKg to show the House what makes Mr. Adder- ley's statement true in eveiy respect. I will attempt to prove that a gieat deal lias been done since the Dominion Parhament first met to remove causes of complaint in 'Jiis province. It has been constantly asseited that the inter ests of Canada and Nova Scotia are not identi- cal — that Canada is to some extent a manutke- turing, but chiefly an agricultural, country, wlulst Nova Scotia is essentially maritime. U e have about 400,000 tons of shipping, and nioi-e than a ton for every man, woman, and child m the province, ^et no sooner do we enter into this Confederation, than every cent • ol duty IS struck off those articles which eutei' into the construction of vessels, and on wliich we had formerly to pay from 2^ to 5 per osnt. (Jordage and canvas, sheathing paper, copper and iron were at once declared free. Was tnat all ? The next thing was to abolish the light duties in view of the importance of the mantime interests in this province. A» I have said we have 400,000 tons, and that wonld give UN $40,000 duty which has been struck off. A» a concession to the maritime interesta they therefore undertook to keep the light hous« sen-ice out of the general revenuea. Another or THE HOCSE DP ASESMBtY. iM iTMt jrriev«nc« w»» that Uie CnMdaw had a 5,iv ox 60 ccnU a ha.-rel ou Amencp.n flour, which 'vould be impo«>d ui.-i. Nova Scotui -mde- Cor.frueiativjti with a view oJ makiug bPV pui-chase the Canwlian artidt. Now, what is the real state oi tho cmnc ' I he C*nadiiJi Parliament rii-st lowered the duty to ''Scents, as existed in this Provnire, and uo- ^eoueTJy aboliahed it altogether. A.j wM declared thatoui people were to h<. a.^'^»^ »way to defend Canada in times of dii) Mity. Blmll not stop to nrRue thtit it is absm x to sup- nose that the militia could be take., away froni he smaller country to deteiul tl»c gfea^er, but wUi pa« on. Wc had 50.000 nicn dnUcd creiy vew for five days, and estunating their tmicnt rdo£-aVy. that would fcive*250,000« iax the poople had to pay lor the imhhc d'- fence besides fJl tno monies contnbuted Irom our local revenue for .mns, ami.uimtion rtud S.0 payment of oniecrs. What has happened under Confedemtion? Our fisher-men ure n^ li..ved from militia duty except in conueetion with the naval brigade. Wc are t.o have 5000 men only torned outamlpaid ^r tluur sepicen^ So instwvd of the miUUa service ben:)> a U.x upon the industry of the country, wc aie ac- tually saved «250,000. Now, before concluding Uicse obeervaions, 1 wouW^mk you to Bun> up the d'Aerent sums which I have shown you we have received in ™iience of the opei-ation of Confederation Firat of all thei-e « f 395,000 Canada. P»y« ovci what she receives ; then we h^vc saved J.-50^ 000 in connection with Uie Mihtia ;f 40,000 "r light duUe«. But what - o-e? Wc wenr oUUhe other day that oi: • f »'.e fi«t resul s of tiie Union would be S .^ decrease of the posfal ficiUties we now enjoy^ Jow a year aeo the Cunard contaact expired, and as it could not be renewed it became nece^saiy to findother^wilUngto perform a>c "^ ^ fiprvice at a less rate. Mr. AUeii, the gi-eai ^eamsh? inoprietor of Montreal, oftcred to carTtlie "laiLs from Halifa^ ^« K^'^P"" ,' touching at St. John's, Newfoundland, m an nferior class of steamci-s. It was argi.ed that 8uc"a'conU-act wouU. have the effect ot largely Xeneing Newfoundland in ^vor ot C^v federation : but nevertheless the Canadian GovSnmeit woiUd not aUow Nova Scotia o S in consequence of the mails amvmg ,^vc^ hom-8 lawr at Halifax, and m inferior Ss They inquired into tlie matter luither 3 finally succeeded in raaJdng a oonti-act wiUi Mr. iSi, for the use of his powerful st^aniei^ She r^te of £650 a trip, of ^'hi«\™'J « dominion Government pays one hall. With out, their interposition we ^ou d not ha^e a sintrle mail steamer caUing at tins port at the SnrtitrrWe have therefoi-e the large :r of #21,125 paid by. the Don"nK,n - connection with the service. Jj"*/^^^^ of the items showing that Mr. Adderly spok.. the truth when he spoke ol the cflcctb 7 Jonfederation. /fhen, m f^'^J^ all this, the Dominion offere «?l^-000/o?,.^ Steamer to ply on the Southern coast uf this nSce Vov many yeai-s we have attempted TgTa steamer on tte route, but our meanB have lieen insuffifient. The munificent -bsi- S now offered will have the effect of givmg us aVne^tf mer ; and in fact, I -«^-?^JXbly .jatjons zxe uow in progress, and wiU piooaoiy be ima.ediatrly concludfd, in eonnfetfci with this important «ie'-vicc. Th« Provin.iBl Sfere- tary may sa% thnt T have put down pi'^'T'^l^tiv. ,18 well C9 actual lienefits, but is not the «250,. 000 saved on account of the lull iti a just a;- \u h • saving as any other '■ , . . I ht e not exliausted this isubjftt 'ly nn* means; I have material enough for .anny Ions speeches; but I have r ndey-oi-ert to brvng nn remaiks into the fimallost .:onipaKH possible. I have not gone back into thecri^iufll question- that h9s Iwen exhausted bj discussion aftor dis cuf.-ion;but I have contented my dl with re- ferences to tht^ condition o! ilffnirs previous to and since Confedcmtlon. 1 hat c sho^ni .you in what riosition Nova Scotia would have »)een had it not been for Confederation, and whut «fl- vantages she ha -droady gttined from connec- tion with her sisi<;r Provinces, f. must iipoU.- Ltizc for the time I have occupied, iind thank tht> Hou^ic for the attention with whicli it has listened to mv remarks. T know ti gi-eat mn ■ ioiitv hold opi.iions very dlfterent ivom rnysell, and"! would In; willing to go ruicli further into (his subject if I ihoiight 1 could induce them to change their votes. 1 remember ai old mem her of this House ftnce saying that dunng the long time he had sat^ on these benches lie had often changed his mind but never his vote. So, in the present case, I feel nlthongh 1 might; m- flueiKC the minds of many gentlemen here, yet I am impotent to make them change their votes, whUst they are under the control ol tsh« shepherd opi^osite, whose voice they seem to know. >t... HON. MR. THOOV'H SPEECH. lion. Mr. Thoop then rose and said :— The hon gentlonmn who bus just iTsumed his scat engaged the attention of the House all yester- day afternoon and the greater part oi to-day, and after more than tln-ee lionrs of elaborete discussion of the question Ix'fore the thirty- eight gentlemen who sit around these benches —tlie intelligent representatives of the people of tliis country— he was forced to tlic conclu- sion that his attempt had been a lamentable lailu'i-c and that ho could not appeal to one gentleman and ask him to divide with him •t'TiinSt the govei'nmcnt on the (.'rent inattei-s which arc ehgaging our attention. I wish the hon gentlenum had lo!lo»-etl the conitie which he outlined for hbnself -it an early period of the discussion, -when he fjiid that it was hard for him " to kick against the pncks," but after making the admission that his at- tempted reasoning was only kicking against ,he prick, from some unexplain.'d cause he has attempted in a four hour's speech to do what he dechu-ed he did not intend to do. xi he imagmes that he has been engaged in iin agx-ee- able and usefiil occupation, I think the gentle- men whom he has been addressing will be content that he should continue to kick against the pricks for three hundred and sixtj'-fiye days longer. For I can assure him, and the ueoplc of Nova Scotia, and not them alone, but tlie people of British Araenca, and the neople and ParMament of Great Britain, tliat it will be "kicking against tlie pricks >' to at- 'emi>t fi .-subjugation of this country. That man will oe a coward, and a traitor also, who ^ uld desert his country in this the hour of hor ducst irecesaitj'. The livii. luember re^ 192 DEBATES A2JD PROCEEDINGS, !^:i ■ uiarked that at this seaion of tli« year discu*- 6ion was out of place. Could I rid myself of the responsibilities which invcsl, me I sliould much prel'er rambling over the vales and liill- sides of the country — taking counsel with the men who have develojied our resources and made the country what it was before this vexed question was brought in and set down as a foot ball in fiur midst. That would be to mc a matter of liu- gi-eater satisfaction than listening to a four hours' speecii, — the most mmbUny and tedious that was ever addressed to a deli- berative assembly. If the hou. member lor Inverness thinks that he has succeeded one iota in convincing the people that they have been in error or tlial they should shrink be- fore the fiats of the Dominion Government or that of Grcut Britxiiii he must have greatly misimdei-stood the tone of public fcehng. It is because I think ho lias so misnuderstooU that tone that 1 rise to address a few observations based on liis 8{)eech. 1 am happy to know that it is tlie pride and glory of British institutions that <^vcry man, within constitutional hinits, can exjiress his opinions fully and freely williout placing him- eolf in a position to be charged witlt disloyalty or with inciting i-ebellion. If I wanted any- thing t<) convince me ol this fact I hud it in tlie 2>portunity of standing in the Piu-liamont of ugland, among the great minds who control the destinies of the Empire. There 1 saw the policy and conduct of Her Majesty's Ministers ES freely canvassed in that great arena, as any riuestion submitted to this legislature is cajuvas- sed by the gentlemen who are assembled here. While I have lost a great deal of the confidence which 1 formerly had in the justice to be c.\- pected from tlie present government ol' that country, I have notentii-ely lost the hope that, by another appeal at some future day, we may lead the pubhc mind (jf England to see what a grand mistake they have made in attempting to coei-ce Nova Scotia into this union. AVhe- ther they ever come to that conclusion or not, hiatory shews that the statesmen of the motJicr country have been celebrated for making mis- takes in dealing with the people of this con- tinent. ' When Jiiitain lost one half of America she lost it by not atttiiuling io just such remon strances as we have sent to J,)owning Street, a 1 which have been mot by stupidity or con- temptuous inditVercncc. The hon. member for Inverness, in commencing his addi-ess, con- trasted one position of to-day with that of last session, and in his very cuiious way oi' illustra- ting his \'iews, went on to (ussume that we had made a gi'cat mistake in the early [lart of the session, and that we are now about to connnit another equally great, lie intimated tluit if we contiiuied m this course wo should make our- selves the laughing stock of British Ameiica and of Great Britain. I take is'jue with liini on that statement, and 1 slmuld hke him to go down to the noble constituency of Inverness and to ask the electors there if till ' think that this legislature has made a mistake. As long as the people of Nova Scotia are determined to maintain this struggle, and we net in unison with their feelings, we can make ti\nv, that a\ e urc eomiiiitting 5it> mistake. We need {'"nr ho influence from outside, and before 1 have done I think I sIkUI be able to shew that even the BrI.Ieb tuid Duininiou governmeutM begiu to (eel that they have committed a grave miftake, and \vill be Committing a still more serious one in continuing this conflict. I believe that our people in taking tlie stand which they have in-evocably taken, are already making the pil- lars of tlie dominion tremble to their vei-y foun- dation, 'and it shall be no I'ault of ours i*''we do ni-o,— since I have seen a great people who.se loyalty wonld not be queElionod by even the confederate party, take every opportunity of B))eaking Hieir vicw.'i plainly on all great matters of stale, and heard the enunciations ol John Bright, to whom be it said Nova Scotia owes a lasting debt ot gra- titude, I hav(( been fully confirmed in the view which I Imve taken. Mr. Bright, when he ciuae to uudci'rtand fully th« case preecutod to aingland by the delegates, with a painstaking and plodding industry, Avcnt into the heart of the question and sifted it in all its dotaiLs, viewed it in every a-spect,— political, sociHl, and commercial,— and iU»o, after ^xiuniniiig that question, a piiui wielding tlio influence A, hich he wields in the national assemblies of Great Britain— a man looked up to and res- pected as one of tlie great pillars of the Glad- stone Liberal party-r-camo down to his place in the House of Commons, presented the petitions of Nova Scotia, and argued us he did, it aflbrds great cncourgement to hear liim use such laii- guugo as this addressed to the Queen, to the ministers who sim-ound ■ her throne, to the lieople of Great Biitain, to tlie fifty colonies of tlie empire, and to all the people of America. *With eloquent language and a heai't fired by the wrongs inflicted on this country, ho made his declaration,— and I do not think you will iind a statesman who will be prepared to con- trovert his position : " {/' you propose a union at all hazards, the danger to. my mind U ap- parent. From the moment thai resolutton reaches jVova Scotia there will be created a deeper hostility to Canada." Was it not so ? When the tidings came across thQ AtlanUc tliat the British Government had refused .even an enquiry into the case of Nova Scotaa, and this after the delegates had spent four months in earnest discussion with tiiem, , who could in- lluence the Government of that country when it l3ecame known Uiat the delegates had been repulsed and treated with coutiunely, was there a man living within Uie eighteen counties ol this counUy, however remote his residence or hovcver inferior his posiUon, wlioidid npt turn his eyes in another direction, and begin to think" that the broad Atlantic rolling between British America. and the old country had in it some exti-aordinary si-"jsUmce that disjiolvcd the sympathy of Englishmen for Nova Sec- tians ? Mr. Bright went on to say :— " I say, therefore, if you turn them li-om tins House, not only without remedy, but witliout inquiry, you will create also a growipg estrange- ment from England, and what is pcriiape dread- ed by some more than anything else, yoti will create and increase the sympathy with the neighboring New England States pi North America. (Hear, heai.) When men ai-o im- tated, as the Nova Scotians ai-a now irrttated, and when nothing is done to soothe, the iin- tation— when you will not inquire— when you wiU not remedy— when you will not listen— it takes a very Uttlc thing indeed where n colony is three or four thousand miles away Iromtlio iwrthcr country, to tm-n its eyes in the direction of the government of a great country— of its own race and with institutions as free— and pro- bably will:'h whenthe colonies arc toilltng, to receive them within its aviple borders, inis is what 1 am idraid may ha^ pen. Your scheme must break down if the Nova Scotians resolve they will not have it. It is impossible for yo\i to coerce them." . , ..^^ Backed by sound conelusiona such ns tljeae, and Mr. Bright speaking tlie sentiments of a very large portion of the people of Nova See- i-:u-!_v,-h<«i be made he deo!a"itiou that. Nova Scotia could not"be coerced— I think we may turn with a satistied smile upon those who talk of the coercion tlie Dominion govGniin«iit will exotcise, when it has aot a, ship of war ttf'l no" OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 195 lies on tne n»ri*ui Rritwh Kovemment ''ZrSgx^enm S^:^^^^^^^ o"t hex. fc^ wiU keep TC^"'*' Doinmion. Such ,„e pntp«*es^«^f the now i^ ^^^^ ^^. ^ can. find be^^^-ZJ^rthe^ ta "t:o« Sd aXtt toTfrc*^ P-vince on thi rr. £ pop ation of .rova ScoUa ^rUo iuerce uie i>^F Government, and iubversion oj ''^^.fr.y ^."J [Heav, hoar.1 into annexation ^'^'J,^""^^^ eooi-ce then I But il you are not P'f fj^f, ' ^„™ernilient to .ay the proper com>*e for the gove^nm^^^ ^^ uhiph the government should ta.ve, w/^^*'*^'' :^^ttwchnen c^.J>thnS.^anll^ ter in this eountrj who wou.a s b ix,s;rx— "--«•»'« ™- a, t.l,e great ,'» "'^„ l^r '" iji ,U dslf. Great Br tain, ^J"""^ ^a^nefs of those who ,he fanaticism and f ^^^"^^^^Nova Scotia by no powei—no S"^*^ attempt ; thev desire to 1 teit, a« I Knvft Scotia had been t «t Xova Scotia cannot be coerced ^''^;.;:;;!iS^^;heBrit.h^--;;a^^ B-5:t;'wrtXh:;^i|^^tj.^Yi^^£ o>'^'a»..-»'^ -"'il'^S thev'co^^tl appi-oach ti.,v wished us to look upon ^i" -^^^^^J^^ ,„,^ y, government. ^Y/^^", ,, '„.,eivos the com- g,.u.lemen had ^""^^.S'^^^^X-ired I felt as I mission of inquiry ^^''"'r'^,,;' ^^l.^'^een lens pre- t.Ml n.>w. that tlioy miyht haye oeen j -"'I'^'^^^^'lEtoS^minli^i.They which our people have to ine l» ^^^ not to see what our objectiom were, and to SS'o^tii;;. They came^^w^ivt withoue an attempt to open neg!, I '"K,","' ,,' "-"^?iEnrp;^:ip::^ ;to.,«"em»uttl»l.o...T.«sa™t«"t. a Irt- 196 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS u *:i^ ■ ter to the Examiner, in which an article tak- ing that view appeared, and cliallenged the go- vernment to make the test in any one of three ways: "Submit the question to the whole adult population, submit it to thoHi who exer- cise the liuncliise at present, or submit it to tlio men comp(»iug the militia force of Nova Sco- tia,— by any one of these three tests we are prepared to stand or tall." If the British or Dominion govemmunt would agree to put the question in that way the mattt>r could be set- tled easier than in any other; but when tlie facts ai-e plain and patent, and when such a challenge has been thrown down, it doen not lie in the mouth of the union party to say that tliere is no way of arriving at the wishes of tlie people. Thete gentlemen would not have found such difficulty in the way of ascertaining the popular wish if they believed they could se- cure a majority of the constituencies. Not until the eleventh hour, — not until the house hud been dragooned into the sale of the public rights, have we heard of this difficulty in ascer- taining the wishes of the people. How did Mr. Tilley ascertain the wishes cf the people of New Brunswick ? Wli> is it that Prince Ed- ward Island has not been dmgooned into Con- federation after her public men refused the bribe of #800,000 by which her virtue was to be purchased i* Why lias Newfoundland been left in the enjoyment of her constitution ? Those Colonies sUnd to-day as monuments protesting against the despolLsni by which this country has been ruled. The hon. member for Inverness, in discussing the firat resolution, thought he had us on tlie " horns of a dilem- ma," because the resolution affirms that the word " Confederation" did not appear in any resolution debated before the union took place, and he proceeded to read from the Colonist a resolution purpoi'ting to be that of February, 1854. The resolution in reality reads as fol- lows : Resolved — " That the house do now resolve itself into a Committee on the general state of the Prr>vince, for the pmpose of considering thesubject of the Union of the British North American Colonies." I cannot think that in his reference to the Colonist, instead of the .Journals, the hon. member is at all fortunate, but I must congra- tulate him on that sudden convewion which leads him to take the Colonist as his guide. It is a lamentable clrcumslance when we tind a gentleman occupying the position which he has held since he came into this legislature, battling as ho has done for the rightii of tlie people, turning to the fyles of the British Colonist to Juid something by which to pacity liis conscience in his endeavor to keep Nova ticotia within the Confederation. 1 think he does not believe in his heart today that she should be kept in the Confederation, and that if he would but give us liLs unbiassed opinion his views >vould coincide with the rest of lus. If he hud been in Dr. Tupper's position I be- lieve he would havp cut his hand otf rather than have forced his country into a union iniuiical to her wishes and interests. I give hiiu that credit, and say that if instead of Iry- in|< to bublur up the weak case of Confedera- tion, when he sees that this agitation, so far from being the work of a lew leadei-s would be carried on as vigorously if its present lead- ers were dead to»morrow, he could be engaged in a work much more congenial to his feelings. It is because the government understand the intensity of the popular sentiment and see that there will bo serious trouble unless this union can be broken down, that they feel it to be the duty of the Ho'ose to urge home on the British government and people their deter mination to be fiee from Confederation. The hon. member then went on, as has often been done before, to quote from the remarks of Judge Johnston and otlier membei-s of the Judiciary, trying to dmw them into the politi- cal arena, and to make them say in 1868 what they said in 1854. I do not think it light to treat the judges of the countiy in that way. Their position should be kept far removed from all political influences, so that every suitor may feel in going into tlie temple of justice tliat his liberties and the safeguards of the constitution are not coniided to poUticians and biassed men. If we wanted a strong ai- gument to convince us of the impolicy of such leferences, we have only to look to the other side of the Bay of Fuudy, and . there we see a gentleman second to none in intelligence and legal attainments, preaching Confederation to grand juries on circuit. He is to-day the (gov- ernor of New Brunswick with a laigely in- creased salary. While I do not desire to im- pute improper motives to any class, I think an unfair use has been made of both clerg}- and judges. Their influence should be elimi- nated from the great field of controvei-sy. However keen the conflict between politicians may be, men should feel when they enter the courts of (Jod or of Justice that in 'the former they will not meet political servility and that in the lattev the ermine will not be stained by political bias. (The hour for adjournment having arrived, tlie hon. gentleman resumed his seat.) The debate was adjourned. I'he House adjourned. Fhiday, 21st August, 1868. The House met at 3 o'clock. MISCELLANKOUS. Mr. Toung introduced a bill to incorporate the Hants County I'emperance League. Hon. Attornev General presented a peti- tion from the Committee of the Synod of tiie Clnirch of England, in tiivor of tlie establish- uieutofan Asylnin lor Inebriates. A message was received iVom the Legislative Council slating tliat they had pasmcd tlu'tbllow- in,^- bills : — To legalize asseasinent in the County ot Digby. To authorize tiie Firewards of Pictou to b(jr- row money for water supply. To enable the liomun Clatlidic Ait'libishoji and Corpomtion to sell and mortgage ceitain lands. To ciiange the name of Back Settlement, Tracuilie. To incorporate the Meridian (iold aiining Company. I'o incorporate tlie,Crtscent do. 'J'o incorporate the Delta ilo. To amend 1 he Acts relative to the Coimnon at Dartmouth. OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. To emv^owev the City Courts to send JuvenUe xSlSSnc' sUty of Trinity Church, on tiavemment, reiuuvc i leirislature. College. incorporate the Also introdueed an Act to ""j" i jr j^^.^. Tnistees of Trinity Chm.h m Hf '^-^- J^I^^J;, ted that there l'f^,,^'^«».,'j/'^;^\^tive Council shnilar ""ture be cu-e the Leg^^.v ^^^^ la«t winter, imd th-ie ma t^^*" ^ ^ tf.^tthe to the passage ot the ^dl- 1^ ,seLme D HiSSn Sw A,.,,..., »»lo..B 1»' "™;;' "'■ ."'■^5 . .."-...'. BudClirislina Cameron ol 'X'B"l"c;^uuim-oS\.hilltoincovp<.. raS\\^^^vryHinMi^ng(g.n^y. M) )i bill to ncori)oi-ate the uoiiii »i. J^a. that took place betvs^eu the t-J^veinme^ ^.^^^^^^ the Kegwti-ar ot P obatc oi > ^^^^^^. the Common tiiat I should resume a-uiu to daj , \ ^^''j ^j,.^. Sdh>g to di,cu.. the ar^'*"'':'!^';" ,J^^ "^^ of theoi,poHition, '^"''••'l'"*^, ^ In .i"g so. of the question ol «- ^^ ," ;« ,.1 ,hut I 1 li.ul that there we e " "V shal! more brielly overiooked, >-; ^. ^ ^l^k^.e taS nS disapprobation for the way n, ffJ^^^Zy cil was filled up at the *"" V J^dei on page in our history »^"" "^J^l^e d^/to K rhepartof thegovei-nmentotUie ^y ^ down the 1 bcrties of "le,^^"""y• 'X, timt when 'Sitf«»£frMSorcrs ssssrsr,",2!r«:erffv,r,: ^J \^ %^. conipromise themselves so la^-aud so -.^K *»- ^WclS to coSi'^sol^ majority ol the Countuw ^hich it was the pnce »" J "l^J^^^ % i,e no pointments to oppose Tim the^e ^^e refer to LiKundei-standing on 1 e point J^et ^^ the Minute ot Co«ncil i se 1 ana w ^^^^ what an ^^^\^r ''l'" nit thh i.ne and what an show to the countiT ^^°;^. '"l^'^^neilioi-s.made y^rrfm^:^^^^^^^^^^ da.; untn m June, lSb7, "^^"^"^ J";,,,,. „„^ that then they cft-ensive to or <1« »S'l\°'> °' JJ^ That is not Conned and ask that "^^^J ^^ . jq remember sent to the i-^'r-«l"*'«"'^ f ^-S h.. was con- thebactetain "f «'";•« '^^^Seming of the cerned, and which bj the st = ^ ;j^,.,^ Lieutenant Governor «"^\,.'"^.Xa "h. The the popular voice "' "^^.^t Vt^.^'eountvy object was t-;-;^;*; '^,.^^^^^^^^ inthis entirely, and had the I lo^ i only sin- position that the Pov ••» "t ^7;^;^,, ,f.udiiy Uiinedby a narrow W ' the sik^ic.s of the understand what '."'A^^^'^ ^4" obson'ation of Council would have had ^ ° ;' „,,, „,i,Hi ,he fact that It ''M' -.^ , '^ . "^U'the legis- it i« to be "'«'""f ^^ , ' "!i' tion in that branch, lutureistomeetwithop"^^^^ demand for it is time that we l^^^^^ 'l»"'^'„^„eil. If n ^^^^^^^^ means may ''^'.^^'^^ '^'^' , 'wC^ at part of the -;irK"a.s^--«x,a,.n>.... 'I?; ff OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 198 199 the inftjivnce that lifi did not intend to dPt'end their action or polic}'. Mr. Blaxchard — The hon. member is mia- luken. Hon- Mr. Troop continued — I hoped at all events tliat the hon. gcr.tleman Ijud taken that ooui-ae, but as he withdiuwa the remark, I will not give hiui tlie credit which I was about to suy was due to him for coming in at the ele- venth hoiu- and disclaiming the defence of the unwise coui-sje which the delegates puraued. This brings me to the discovery which the hon. member made among some old records of a speech once delivered by the Attorney General. 1 ha\e nothing to do with the speech itself, and will leave it to the Attorney Genei-al to answer us he may think fit, but I must say that if tljose who are so earnestly engaged in advocating Confederation had oiily turned their attention to geologj' they would have far surpassed in skill the Lyells and Logans who have become celebrated in the pursuit of that great science. They are prepared to unearth anything— wher- ever an old rock is to be found containing a particle of Conlederation they mine and coun- termine about it with the most Indefatigiblc in- dustry, and in tljiSway, after two years search, tliey have been rewarded by u fresh discoverj- iu the speech of the Attorney General. I give them credit for their pereeverance, but I can- not help thinking that if they glanced over the record roll of the men who stiniggled for the independence of this country, and laid the foun- dation stone on which the sui)erstructure cf her constitution is built, if they but studied their productions and the enunciation of their mind, our Confederate friends would be occupied in a way far more calculated to expand their minib* and enlarge their ^'iews. They prefer, how- ever, to confine themselves to a species of po- litical geology, and they are welcome to all the capital they can make out of it. Tlie hon. member for Inverness quoted the Attorney General against annexation, and hoped we were not going to have another Papineau in Xova Scotia. He endoi-sed the remark while quoting it from the Attorney General, and be- hind it lurlced the sneer wliich was apparent through his whole speech. Papineau may have been in the eyes of aotne a rebel, yet he loviul his country. He was engaged "in a struggle, not ^\■isely but too earnestly, on behalf of tlie great interests committed to his keeping by a large body of people on tliLs continent. AVliile lie WTS engaged in that struggle, where was Nova Scolia and where was the Canadians ? Xova Scotia was niahitaining the honor of Kiiglaiul on tliLs continent, and if Canada had at that time succeeded in uccomplisliing her will, we would not now be engaged in a dis- cussion as to the future of these colonies, but would be a ))art of the Ignited States. T tliiiik therefore that when our opponents refer to the records of the past touching tliese niattei-s the less they say the better. Those records prove that but i'oi' Xova Scolia and the able men at the helm here, but for such men as Mr. Howe, \\lio, while struggling with his great powers for the rights of the count.y, knew well were law- ful agitation ended and rebellion eoinmenced, British institutions would not have be^ n niuin- taiiK-l in Nortii America. Those institutions, thanks to such elTorls, were maintained, and with them the constitution which has since been stnick down by an oligarchy, respohsil)lft to none, and defying everjbody. " Something wds said about the good shejiherd of the anti-Confederate partj-, but I 'wonder where the good shepherd of the Confederates IS y I'liere may have been one once, but hi* Satanic Majesty must have transfonnod him into something else. But v.e had a number of shepherds do^vn here the other day from Can- ada, with crooks in their hands, wantinfr to gather the sheep and the lambs of Nova Scotis into the Confederation fold. The sheep, how- ever, knew that there were wolves there, and though their rights had been destroyed, they had sagacity enough to Iceep from that fold. I come now to th<; question of the Intercolo- nial Rrtilway, and I must say I was sur- p -ised to hear the hon. member trying hard to '.inearth a page of histoiy that would'bear in- vestigation so ill. Do we not know that when Nova Scotia was urging that' project the Ca- nadians would have nothing to do witli it ? That they batfled everj' negotiation until they saw the opportunity to make Nova Scotiii pay tiie cost of the whole road. The hon. member went on to ask how long this agitation was to be continued. I think that the answer which he will get from the House and tlie country will be that the agitation will l)e continued un- til rep(>al is gi-anted— until our libei-ties and our constitution are restored. Unleas they are re- stored I veiy much tear that it will be a long day belbre agitation ceases. Wf- now come down to the great financial view presented, and really if the process of reasoning of the arithmeticians, at the command of the leader of the opposition, in the pei'sons of Mr. Tims and tlie other Canadian financiei-s, be ':'arri?d out a little longer, they will be able to n'lake tlie figures prove anything. I will leave the rejjly upon this branch to the Provincial Secre- tary, but I can assui-e the House that when the figures, as I have seen them, are prbduced, it will be apparent that the calculations of Mr. Tims have not the shadow of a foundation, and that the reverse of the statements which we have been listening to are true. Any pei'son taking a common sense view of the subject, witiiout being a financier, can see the absurditv of such arguuient.s. Why is it that lieforo the 1st of July, 1807, Nova Scotia alwnvs had plenty of money to keep her roads and bridges in repair, to build hor railways, to maintain all her public works, and still to'shew an overflow- ing treiwury, and that since the fii'st of July, after one yimr's experience of the fTnion, tlie government almost ai-e compelled to dtv'lar(! the country bnnkruj.t. When one hcai-s what ( 'annda is doing for ns, one would suppoMo tliat we had drltlled into the promise dland wliere money Housed liice \\-ater,- -that the mere fact of a jiaper constitution uniting four provinces under one liead had turned the very trees into gold, and made money run in streains. P^very ' now and then crops out an illustration of th6 ' great love wliich the Carachans have for the people of Nova Scotia, and the hon. member in giving utterance to tliat view, cast his evff across the str(Wt and seeing the building built with tlie money nut ofnm- trr-a^urj', could not help saying that the government, in declining to appropriate it for Canadian puiposes, were doing a great wrong. All I can say is that if the peoiile are not in earnest in this asfi- 198 199 DEBATES AND PROCR^MUGS tfttion the sooner we know it the Ix^tter; but if Sev are one or two thousand ponnds i« not SKwrigh in comparison with he great nrndprcs underlying the question. The duty K Rovcrnment and the U'l^iplature is to go asS^ tlxey can without admittnig the r|gh t. of the Canadians to a single acre oi pioP^rtJ - or to a single pubUc buUdiiiR in the county'- Thehon leader of the opposition told us that we did not pay for our railways now. Who does pay th'eii;? Our ft^os have been increased to fiiteen percent. »»i» t"" .^^..''^ imadned Unit Canada has taken hold ol a baKt Province in which the pubhc works arede elict, merely out of la>S«"e«« «» »f "'I S ILTeS?! hour exhaustcdan.1 helple... I^iOi'ourSrmces gone and -^ tr.^ury de^ thens and pay you beside :" ^ow let us sec I ow fRi this th^ry will bear investigation. It rbSn ope y stated that at thi« mon.ent t™rv^ Ifitgoto ihcUomhiion treasiu-y which es in the way of rcconciha ion; he Sharno power -ithin ^he Doimnio^^^^^^^^^ morlifv the coiiHtitution— but that tlie consimi "oto^Sada had been --^^ ^ ^ '^ ciTc times Docs not everybody know tne dimcnUie; which brought ^^^^^^^^^^f^^^, T\ ^,„ nf^«■ nil know that the Canadians -v^ MIL «>vernment was an impossibility , a.id then it goveininpuL ^ T,„,^j^nl Parliament luid ob- T-^''^ f?nl of KS Colonies, breaking Sn\h^inid?pendeni coiistitutions that in r^rS whiclUey -used^cy "^^^^ sreiv';f%"^Lrhei:u-^^^^^^^ Td the Domhiion Government ai-e on this f i^« Sneaking of the present position ot XS'mU 'Sfe^iMiits 'which had arisen, '^•l: ASSi'tkken by the Government oi' ^.^^H^rt^H^'SU^^Kf^cf differences oi t»nn«- ^™S ^ by which, IX Wt' ft^d was proportionately in-itated. SS'lhartirstst^p ov-y Stt^-^^f ttiftt had been taken consulted the interests oi While we caai but deny the latter statement, ♦i.ofTiB ivdmits as every one must, that tirS^riuoSer ConlCacraUoa was to raise the tariff of Uii-s countiy by fit\y per cent, and after having put those enormous taxes on Nova Scotia, Mr. Adderlev and the Canadiiin Govei-nment ask us to come in and see what modifications can be made, not in the schonie itself, but in sonic of its details. Ihon we had It coveit attack upon the people ot Pnnce h.A- ward Island and Newfoundland, and a reler- encc to the visit of " Ben. Butler " to the for- mer Province. I think, in the present stat* of affaii-s, with Great BritJiin watching the st nig- gle that is going on, leaving those Islands with their own constitutions and self-c'ontr J, it hflidi flocks well U) see the thi«at held out that Prince Edward Island will be coerced into the union by the Dominion riovernment. The hon memlier asked who could imagine reciprocity being allowed with one Province alone, and went on to say that tlie fcland would be made the enfrcpo< cf snlugglei-s. i do not think that the people of the Island will thank him for that remark. So tar they have refused evei-y bribo and hiducctncnt, and they stand to-day with a free constitution above their heads, holding fast the liberties granted them by the Imperial (ioveniment We next heai-d an elabor.ito calculation about inihtia officers, and the large sum which Nova Scotia would save under the new Mihtia Act. 11 time permitted me 1 conld shew the matter in a different aspect, but the facts are patent to all We know what Nova Scotia has done, and is wilUng to do, in defence of her own soil. When Mr. Cartier, m the House oi Commons introduced the bill inclutUng an oafh that would have made our people sweor tealty to the Dominion, pnblic opinion was raised to Buch a pitch that he had to witlidiuw tlmt part and insert the ordinary oath ot aU^-giance. What do we see to-day ? The new Militia Law docs not conio into operation until Octo- ber but influences ai-e at work to entrap our railitia-mon into volunt^^cring for service, and into accepting the money voted for volunteers. What is the object of this ? That the moment thev get the ranks filled up they can say :-- "Heroarc these Nova Scotians, who are said to be hostile to the union— the answer comes— volunteering to proteict the Dominion and its flag and rwjeiving its pay." . I do not tlunk that the bait is going to take m Nova Scotia, and if it has tAken to any extent when the question is aii^d, and the pcpple understand tW position, they will know well how to act. We have heard so much ot the blessings ot ConfederaUon that I will not weaiy the House bv going over all that has been said upon that suhiect, but a remark was made m reference to the mail service between Halifax and New Brunswick and the Southern shore. On that one point I wiU make a remark. . It « weU known that this summer the Dommion Gov- crument adveitiscd for tenders lor tliat ser- vice, and when tenders were made as they were by Mr. King the ^'>i\';'>f^^^%'^ Halifax and Mi-. Fleming, of St. John, those gentlemen received the foUowmg reply • Post Office Dktaiitmf.nt, Ottawa, iih July, 1868. Gentlemen,— jj. _„pi., tr> ./«ur letter dated the 2Glh ultimo, offering' to pkce a stoamer on the route be- tween Halifax, Nova Scotia, and St. John, 200 DEBATES JlSD PROCEEDINGS m IfTew Brunswick, t am directed hyfekiost- master General to say that, while Imnking yoH for your offer, he has no authority to en- ter upon such a co itract as you propose. I am, g ntlemon. Your obedient servant, WM. white; Secretary. ilttkrf. JAMES KiKG, Mail Contractor, Halifax, N. S., and Gjsoboe Fleming, St. John, N. B. So thwt after adveitising for tenders they positively dexUned to accei>t any of tliem. The hon. member, after going through an elaborate oalculation, came to the conclusion that by Confederation we had saved #739,000 in a single year, and yet ho concluded by .-■••:; ing that he did not expect a single member to believe him. Could he wonder at any intel ligent man declining to accept such a state- ment ? I admire the fertility of the genius of those gentlemen who get up the confedcmtiou literature of tins country, and I have no doubt that in future days, when we shall have lelt this arena those who shall sncceetl us in coming on some of tliese calculations will arrive at the conclusion that in these days Baion Munchau- sons were as thick as blackberries, and that every confederate thought himself a cfUcula- ting machine of no ordinary power. If the hon. memter could only show, as I challengo him to do, that Canada is not taking out of this Province one hall" of that amount every year, and that she is not impoverishing us, I will go with him in his argument. Having thus gone through the leading points of the hon. mem- ber's speech, let be now turn attention to an- other view called the conciliatory. The con- ciliation dodge is another creation of the cele- brated intellects at Ottawa. Sir John A. Mac- Donald is anxious that by seeking assistance from Canada we shall accept the situation, and thus rivet the manacles upon our hands and feet more firmly than the/ are to-day. What dv^cs he tell us m the despatch laid on the table to-day ? That despatch is a threat sent here under the autliority of the Dominion govern- ment, saying to us " be careful how you legis- late, take cai-e what you are doing, you are only a small municipality, your acts have to come under the reyiow of our Cabinet, and we claim the right to lop off the branches of your legis- lature, and to disallow whatever we dislike." This is told to us while we are listening to the argument that om- rights were sulftciently guai-antced by the British North America act. Does not tlie Dominion goveniment in that despatch claim the fuU riglit to exercise super- vision over every act of legislation which we may caiTy on. This is its language :— "The imdcrsigncd begs to submit for the con- sideration of your Excellency,, that it is ex- pedient to settle the course to be pui-sued with i-espect to the Acts passed by the Pi-ovmcud Legislatures. The same powei-s of disallowance as tiave always belonged to the Imperial Goveniment, with respect to the Acts passed by Colonial Legislatures, have been conferred, by the Union Act, on the . Government of Canada. Oflatcyeai-s Her Majesty's Govemnient has not as ft genei-al rule, interfered with the le- gislation of Colonies having Representative Institutions and Responsible Government, ex- cept in the cases specially mentioned in the in- stnictions to the Provinces, or in mfttters of Imperial and not merely Imral interest. Under the present constitutipn of Canada, the General Government will bo called upon to consider the propriety of Allowango or Dis- allowance of Provincial Acts much more fre- quently than Her SJftjcsty's Govemiiient has lieen Avith respect to colonial enactments. In deciding whether anj' Act of a Provincial Legislature should be disallowed or sanction- ed, the Government miist not only consider whether it affects the interest of the whole Dominion or not, but also whether it Ijc im- constitutionul, whether it exceeds the jurisdic- ti-jn conferred on Local Legislatures, abd in cases where the jurisdiction is concurrent, whether it clashes with the legislation of the General Parliament. As it is of importance that the coui-se of Local Legislation should bo interfered with as little as possible, and the power of Disallowance exereLsed with great caution, and only in cases where the law and general interests of the Dominion imperative- iy demand it, the undei'signed recommends tliat the Ibllowing couree Ije i)ui-sued : That on the receipt, by Your Excellency, of the Acts passed in any Prov'^ice they be reioi red to the Minister of Justice for report, aiil that he, vnth all conveiiient speed, do report as to those Acts which he considers free from objections of any Iriiid; and if such report bo approved of by Your Excellency in Council, that such approval be forthwith communicated to the Provincial Governments. That he make a separate report or separate repor'3 on tliose Acts which he may consider — Ist. As being altogetiier illegal or uncon- stitutional. 2nd. As illegal or unconstitutional in pArt. 3rd. In cases of concuiTcnt jurisdiction as clashing with the legislation of the General Parliament. 4th. As affecting the interests of the Do- minion generally. And that in such report or reports, he give his reasons I'or his opinioiis. "That vrhere a measure is considered only partially defective or where objectionable as being prejudicial to the generar interests of the Dominion, or us clashing witli its legislation, communication should be had with tlic Provincial Government with i-espect to such measure, and that in such case the Act should not be JDisallowed, if the general interests pennit such a eourae until the Local Government has an opportunity of con- sideiing and discussing the objections taken, and the Local Legislature has also an oppor- tunity of remedying the defect found to exist. All of which is respectfully submitted. (Signed) John A. MacDonald." Under that fourth cla.ss let us suppose that the Ottawa Parliament thought it for the in- terest of the whole Dominion to take possess- ion of our coal fields — would that be one of the cases in which they would exeroise this power as affecting the iiitercMl,-) of the Douiiiiion generally. Before one of our acts reaches them they send down a desjiatch to caution us how we exercise our ftmctions. I think that OF THE HOUSE OP 18SIMBLT. 201 epresentatire ^emment, ex- iled in the in- n mftttchi of ercst. 1 of Canada, i called upon NTiinvo or l)is- ich more fi-c- eniiiient luw !tinents. ' a Pi'ovincial I or sam^tion- jnly consider of the whole her it fx! im- i thejurisdic- iitures, abd in ! concurrent, islation of the )f importance ion should bo iible, and the ;d ■with great 5 the law and n imperative- reconunends lied : Excellency, of they be rel(M r report, ami ed, do report lers free from ach report be 3y in Council, communicated rt or sepai'ate nay consider — j?ai or uncon- :ional in pArt. jurisdiction as the General sts of the Do- ppHrty. he give That vdiere a tially defective ; prejudicial to iminion, or as !ommnnication il Government id that in such allotted, if the ouise until the rlunity of con- jections taken, ilso an oppor- found to exist, bmitted. lcDonald." i suppofie that it for the in- ' take possess- t be one of the Bisethis power Llie Uouiiuion acts reaches h to caution us . I tiiink that the sooner we tell them that we intend to paw what legislation we please, irrespective of Uieir authority, the better. If they wwt to braw trouble and to carry on coercive measures they will find that Nova Scotians are not so tractable as they imagine. We have taught them a good many lessons wTico the 18th of Septcmbcr,~we have taught them tliat the opposition in this countr;' is not tht mere handful of dissatisfied people spoken of by the Confederates. We will go on step by step teaching thorn that Nova Scotia has no intention of accepting the situation. From one other remark, made by the hon. member for Inverness, in quoting from the Attorney (ieneral, I must dissent, and that was in refer- ence to the United States. The commercial interests of Nova Scotia to-day ai-e lar more intimately connected with that country than with Canada, and I believe that our pohcy should be by all possible means to open up ti-ade relations with . a country without whose trade Nova Scotia would not bo what she is. By commercial treaties and Uio interchange ol commercial products our counti-y may be built up The United States stand to-day a umon of thirty States, covering the whole extent ol territory from the Kio Grande to the Saint Croix, peopled by the same stock as the JJnt- ish Islands, and forming the great sources into which the European crop overflows. Are we to turn our backs on that coimtry? to forego our commercial prospecU then for the vision- ary idea that at some future day the^ck country of Canada may aflord us a noMpt f Can that back country afford us to-day »taar- ketfor a ton of coal? When I saw the Al- bion Coal fields the other day— the imlhom ot capital that are locked up there for want ol a market— I felt that there was no cause to won- der at the people of Pictou county feelmg aa strongly as they do on the subject of Con- federation. We find there, connected witn the mining operations, numbers who have em- barked their capital in those fields— men em- bued with enterprise, who have been iiccurt- tomed to see the country making commercial arrangements and developing its resources in- dependent of Canada. Why is it that aU thw hasbeei. changed,— that at the eleventh hour wc arc asked to forego the advantages ol closer commercial relations ^vith the United States '■' Why is it that the power has been nut into the hands of Canatla to shut us out from those relations, and to prevent the de- velopement of the resources which are lying in the heart of the country. Whatever may be said of this great question there is one evident fact which no one can deny, that in the Ame- rican Union there are tliirty millions ot ii.ng- lish speaking people almost of one nation witli us like lis in laws, manners and religion, studying from the same books and seekmg at the same fountain for literature and everything that can make a country truly great. In look- ing at that noble country, in remembering the stwid which its people took in gammg their independence and in maintaining the integntv of their constitution in defence ot which they noured out money and blood like water we cannot but feel that it is not a nation to be J -4. u.-* nci r>no fViaf ia mnlrinir itS pOWer felt throughout the whole world. When we aee the Western States developing their vast 26 resource* by (he Pacific railway, which i« to top the txadrt of the Eastern hemisphere, w it wonderful thiifc trodden-down and oppressed as we ai-e by this grevious Scheme, we shonld tiimoiu- eyes for sympathy to the people ot the United SU.tesV As our reBolutions de- clare we call upon the civilized world to look upon the struggle which we have commenced. When the people of Nova Scotia have taken the stand which they occupy to-day, we laxy well allow those who choose to taunt us with being annexaHonists. Such people may attempt, if tl please, to wound u» in the dark, imt they cannot prevent the mind of cdut people from runnmg in the directioo in which their mtereeU and liberties lie. WhiL they love and venerate the institutions of their fatherland,— whiift their is hardly a disloyal man in Nova Scotia to-day, they turn,, in the hour of danger, Jor sympathy to thoso who can sympathize with them, if the time has come when the people of this country can no longer appeal to the old feelings of attachment on the other side of the Atlandc^when between us and our Qneen stands the Dominion Government, the Colonial Seci-etary and Doniinionites of all shades— then indeed Nova Scotiims must look for sympathy elsewhere. I say this in all sincerity, and in bringing mv observations to a close, I na^e .*? thank the House tor the patience with which it has heard me. I have spoken warmly be- my hev* i" i° *^® cause; because I lun ■mined t» iiftht the battle through. No •HJwer, no influenc«, no coercion, shall ever cause me to abandon the position I have taken today. As long as the eighteen Counties stand as they do, there is not a man here m pubho life who wiU dare to mention compromise with Canada. When it comes to be well understood that we have taken this stand, and when the ruinous nature of the whole scheme comes to be understood in England, we hope to regpan what we have lost. In the meantune let the people take courage, and m carrymg on the Wiggle let them rtimember how many dark hours and days in old England's history and in the history of the thirteen Colonies, occurred before the gleam of triumph shot athwart the country. T.et them Ic' ' at the history of the world, and see that the men who backed down from the position which their patriotasm had led them to take, were craven cowards, lured by the ttdse light held out tor their destruction. I,et us be cautious ard gnai-ded, yet firm and determined in our solemn resolve to restors this country to her original proud position, and may God help us in the struggle. Mr. Blanohard expressed his surprise that a despatch which had not been asked lor had been laid on the table in order to fiimish mate- rial for the speech which had just been conclud^ ed while the Report of the Delegation, a.sked for and requisite for the debate, had not been brought down. . , Eton Attornet Gbnerai> said that the pa- pers alluded to had been found more voluminous than WAS anrtcipated. They would be re^idy in a rlay or two. MR. SMITH'S .SPEECH. Mr. SMITH said : In view of the position that I have so recendy had tise =t.?rK-.r to occupy, 08 one of the delegates from the 202 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS |: GoTcmment, chargsd with the renolutions and address to th« Sovereign and Paxliameiit of Englanri, r.;id in view of the verj- extraordi- nary and pointed inferences which have been made to the conduct of tliose delegtttes in this debate, I feci tliat I would not be dschai'ging the duty which I owe to the countrjr and the Legialitore, were I to ref ain from making some obeervationB in respect to the resolutioas which have been 1^-d on tlie table by the hon. and learned Attorney Greneral, or from ofter- ing my most gratetnl aoknowledgementB to the hon. member for Invemees for tlie very i nteliectoal treat which he has thought proper to furnish us. Entertaining, an I do, for that hon. gentleman no small measure of personal estetim, I may be permitted to congrtitolate him on his safe delivery of a speech, in the throes of which he struggled for nearly four mortal hours ; and when we look at him and see him restored to his usual complacency of demnanor, I am sure this House will eoaouv with me in thinking that ho is "as well as can be expected," to use a household pliruse, after the agony he has endured. I did think, sir, that Confederation with Ca- nada had been so folly and diversely discusncd by its advocates in the press, in the Legisla- ture, on the hustings, from the bench, and I might almos*^ add from thu pulpit, that it has been divested of every argument of novelty, a subject unsusceptible of any further elabor- ation ; but it has fallen to the lot of the ^oii . member for Inverness to throw around tli« hackneyed and threadbare arguments of hiii friends, the charm of his vivid imaginadou. Since I have had the honor of a seat iu the Legislatui-e I have frequently listened to that hon. gentleman with respect, and admired Lis talents in debate, but I regi*et to have seen them, as 1 have witnessed them during this and the preceding session, prostituted to the advocacy of an umnghteous cause — one in which he has placed himself in antagonism to the interests and prosperity of his native coun- try, and to the feelings of Ids countrymen. There are times, .sir, when all of us have pain- ful duties to discharge, and perhaps now and then aven the hon. member may feel that the duty he is performing is tiding to his con- science ; but trained as he has been in tlie peculiar profession to which he belongs, accus- tomed as he has been to deal with causes, in some of which he is right, and in which he is vei-y frequently wrong, we need not be sur- prise-i if we find him throAving around the case of his Canadian clients tlie semblance and feamestness of ti-uth. I do not intend, in the course of the remarks which I am about to make, to indulge in any unnecessary or in-ele- rant discussion ; but shall endeavor to comply with the earnest desire of gentlemen around these benches, to expedite the business of the country, and occupy as little time as possible ; ■ but as the hon. memlicr has thought proper to throw down the fjatmtlett and challenged the delegates Ui vindicate their conduct, I am pre- pared to meet him, and to show the fallacy of every observation he has made. 1 raay remark at the outset that when the ^araveraiijeiit of a eoimtij Uiiderta,ko lo lay on the table public documents of the character of these resolutions they should bear tlie stamp of veracity; and if they were in any paiticular inaocumte, I would feel consti-ained, although a supporter of the Administmtion, to give them my unequivocal opposition. The hoti. member haa stated tliat he hao placed the Government on the horns of a dileimna, but the hon. member tor Annajwhs has relieved them of one of tliose horns, imd I am quit« satisfied before I have done I shall leecne them from the other; and if I know any thing about the ability and eloquence of the " goo Her Majesty's Government copies of th« resolutions and addresses unon the same sub- ject now under the consideration of the Provin- cial Parliament." So t'tiis House will see tliat thfe duty of the hon. gontleman was, in the first instance, to prepan? and take the necessary steps for laying the petition before the Imperial Parliament, OP THE HOUSE OP ASiiEMBLY. 203 ftiul to co-operat*« with those ^.r.tltmm that uiiaht be Hcnt to convey copws of these r«w- luUoiw to the Imiwrial Government. In the discharge oftlie duty which dovolvea upon ub we had nothing to do but to lay the pihtton be- fore the Imperial Parliameul, and present copies of the resolutions and addi'esj to tl.c Government of Kngl««d A. >t Ji.^ been already reinaiked by thehon. member for An- fwS on the 10th Jpne, 1868, not only wei-e ZZo\^tiom brought b«i«f/>»° H^t-eS ParUament by the governniont, bu» the addi-eas and all the pupws connected wiUi the question, -othttt in a Hhort time alter our i^mvHl '" I'niiland. both the Govornmont and Parhp- Sr were in po««.BHiou of all the facU and aoouments^vith which wo ^^e"!* ^ '"K^! .'l",^ which had any connection witii che sUyect. The hon. member has lilcewise stated that we OTceedod om- authority— that we wPfeoiVy directed to seek for Repeal of the British North American Act Let mo here du:ect the atten- tion of the House to the resoluUon under whicli we were deUigatcs : '• flesohW, That the delegates so to be ap- pointed are t^ urt . ni>on the Imperial Parhu- Lent the strong ?eeUng« of th« House nml the people of Nova S.«tia upon the q»e«tion ot Confederation ; that they are to ask for the ivs^ toration of the constitution of thw country as il existed previous to the passage ot the UnXr ish North America Act ;" that they are not to uccept any aiteraHon of, or amendment to such uct,Wthat they are hei-eby authorized if necessary, to -^tain counsel learned in the law to plead the claims of Nova Scotia at the bar of tho House of Commons, and to take all susn necessary steps for carrying out the resolu- tions qf this House as may be deemed ad- visable." So that there appears nothing m these reso- lutions of a restrictive cliaracter, except that we were solemnly chai-ged not to accept any modification or alteration" ot tlie Act in heu of the Repeal which we were orderea to at- ^TSu oni?ty' to this House and to the coun- try at large that in no one instance did any gentlemen with whom I was ^^oi^^'^^^l J tsn aware of, intimate to the Colomal ofhoe a desire to accept any "feratien or „.od^fica^ tion" of the act. and when the hon. member tells us diat we did not i^k for RfP^al"^ Eng- land, and thereby failed to perform the dutj devolving upon us, he is entirely mistaken At ,he vei-Ttot moment in.our power we P^ced oui-selves in commmiicativn with the Colomal Secretaiy, and brought to his "Otice all the fatto and cu-cumstances "^'V'"' ^, J^* ^^ ciuestion, and pressed upon him m tiie s&o ig Lt manner the dissatisfaction tl^^t existed anions the people of tins country, and the SyrhisLeSslaturetolmveavepealo the British American Act so far as No^a Scotia was concerned. . ., ., ^ The hon. gentleman likewise said tliat no man in the Houses of Commons or Loi-ds Sbefmmdto lay the ^•esolutions be^' ««, fit to forward them as -peedily as he c^. have done, because it was thought neces- smv to wait until the Canadian _ agent, wa^ prepared to leave Canadian sod smiulte- neoi^ly with the documents. It was not ubW Dr. Tupper arrived in England that we y^en able to communicate offl-ially with the Cobr nial Minister. On the fii-st o«^^of ,^«iXi^ opportunity of domg so, we were tdd eno^h t^^tisfy li that the mmds of the British ^o vernment were settled on the subject. Il Has been said that tlie decision arrived at was not S m^e opinions of the Duke of BuckmgMm^ and Chandos, but the views of the British Go-, vernment. I believe, sir, that they were not iSy the sentLneAts of the Govermnent buWeL mainly a reflex of the opmions of the Canadian authorities. At the very first mter- ^^Te Md with the Colonial Minister an m-, ddent occmn-ed of a somewhat singular charac- ter When we were permitted to enter tlie office of the Secretary of State for the Cotom^^ another gentleman who had preceded us^ui, our interview had just retkedW tiie iW and we had scai'cely passed through th«^ ^w of His Gi-ace-s sanctum before tl^ , foot is oj the Canadian agem wei-e dying away fwm a^ other^tiuncefand Vhen we opened feie d^ cSnitwas evident enough to us that not Sw^^Repeal.to be ^^ected by_!^„«i^rr. Ste tt ...nments . and fl^eitiog^ ^vhich had been time and again refuted m the press, i •i :204 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS mq wm .|; in the parliament, on th« hiutings, and on the atampa of Nova Scotia. The hon. meoiber alao telln ua that we wjere not authorized to aak for n CommisKdoit of £nquiry. I do not know whether we exceed- •d our authority or not, but all I can say is that we did what, unuei- the circumatancea, we thought moBi ad\'i8able for the intertsts of the people of this countary, Aa 1 ttaid before. Sir, M*-. Blight never did refuse to aak for a He CI of the Union Act; but knowing that it ; been so recently passed— the difficulties we had to contend witii — the influences w Jiicli were operating ujjon the British Uovernmeut, the pressure of Canada operating upon the Colonial oftice; knowing that the Uoveniment might call to its aid the Oiladstone and Cord- well contingent in debate and on discussion in the ConuaoEH, Mr. Bright, as a matter of prudence, as well as his friends with whom he coriSHltc^, thought it best, before asking for Repeal, to demand a Commission, composed of impartial English gentlemen, to enquii* into the feelings of the people of Nova Scotia, and to report to Parliament thereon. Fortified aa we wei* by the result of the elections of 1867 — strengthened as we felt ourselvesi by the decision of this House, and the unanimity with which it had acted previous to our de- p«ture— believing as I did on the integrity and manly honesty of the Commons of iing- lund, I never thought for a moment that so reasonable a i-equest should have been refus- ed. Such, however, proved to be the case. The hon. member told us Umt it was not known that Mr. Bright made the application with the consent of the delegates until alter the decision of Parliament w,.tion at their handw— that the Legislature had the tech- nical right to destroy our constitution and annex ,\ou to Canada— declare through the moutli ol' iMr. Disreali, that although the Par- liament has the technical right to deal witJ' a question lilfe the dis-establishment of the Irisli Church, yet they have not the moral power to touch it without leaving it to the people to de- cide upon ; and Mr. Gladstone has virtually recognized the principle because he has not at- tempted to introduce a bill to cany out tlie purport of the resolution which he lias been able carry by a majority of the House of Commons. The hon. member has noticed the speech of Mr. Bright to prove that the public and Parlia- ment of England knew that the people ol A ova Scotia were opposed to Contederatioi^. From our knowledge of the subject, and frcai conversation with gentlemen who have given the question some consideration, I have no hesitation in asserting that the opinion was prevalent in England that the people of this province were in concurrence wJ. tho acts oi' the Legislature ; and if the slightest idea had been entertained that such a feeling of anta- gonism existed to the passage of the act, the Parliament of Gi'eat Britain would certainly have hesitated to make it law. It was believed universally among gentlemen who were ac- quainted Anth the colonies that there was a feeling in fiivor of Confederation, and in proof of that I shall refer to a passage in the verv opinion which has been referred to, and which the hon. Attorney General has promised to bring down. We haVe, indeed, the moKt satis- factory proof of the fact in the very preamble of the Act itself; but it may be said that the opponents of Confederation have placed a talse construction on the preamble of the Act —that the opinion of the Attorney General in respect to the validity of the Act itself mav not be sastained ; but in this comiection let me read to the House the following extract from the opinion of the eminent Counsel spoken of by the hon. member for Inverness : "In our opinion the Imperial Parliament did not assume to extinguish the existing con- stitution of Nova Scotia, or to impose upon it a new form of government without its con- sent. To h»ve done so would, in our opimon, irnve been a:» extreme exercise of its legal vh«t is .^id by Uw n the course of hi« je in some political 1 Uie idea, that it lisni " for any oaa ire waa not the only ion could be dealt hear tlie hon. meni- eonnected with the undertaking at this 3*'er Branch of the represent tlw; voire to th«j leader of Uie England, in some does not represent people. A serious the public mind in hnt is the position fThe very govern- that the people of ve considerp.tion at ilature had the tech- ir constitutiou and eclare tlirough the it although the Par- right to deal wiU; a shment of the Irisli the moral power to to the people to de- stone has virtually 3ause he has not at- jill to cany out tlie which he lias been / of the House ol oticed the speech of le public and Parlia- that the people ol i to Conlederatio''. e subject, and frCiU 3n who have given eration, I have no it the opiniou was it the people of this ice Aviu. th»j acts oi > slightest idea had li a feeling of anta- isage of the act, tlie in would certainly iw. It was believed Men who were ac- 3 that there was a •ation, and in prool' passage in the very srred to, and which al has promised to leed, the most satis- 1 the vor^' preamble my be said that the on have placed a preamble of the Act Lttomey General in the Act itself may is comiectioD let me lowing extract from Counsel spoken of i'emess : mperifil Parliament ih the existing con- T to impose upon it nt without its cou- mld, in our opimon, xercise of its legal OP THE HOtTRE OP ASS^M&LY. 205 fcoweii. The preamble of the Act, 30 Vie. Cap. 3, shows that in fact the Epgliah Legisla- ture proceeded on the assumption ot a re«l and lubitantial comint by the Province ot Nova Scotia." Bo that it will be seen that it is the delib^-iute opinion of these learned and distinguished layv- ye« tlkat the British Governnient did not in- tend to confederate tliia country as it has been done, except with the "real rnd axtbttuntial ai->ent of the people" Therefore 1 may >M^ (■vousedinsayiugthiit the hon. gentleman w us weak on that point us lie is on all otheix he UHB endeftvoi-ed to urge. Now the hon. raembei-, in speaking ot tlie ditliruliy of getting the voice of the people on this question, said that the popularity or unix>- puiarity of a govemmenw prevents a correct decision, and tlierelore it would have been in- .'XW'dientforthe late administration to have submitteaii-S" ol Uie former leader ol the Conservaf ■. party in this province. fi'ho h'-a irenUemmi then directed our atten- tion to some of Uie advantages which we were loriviuE from ConlederaUou. Now, sir, as l tmve already remarked, all Uiese arguments are so entirely hackneyed, and so Irequencly 206 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS sir i« I'M ■ refuted, that I feol I am trespassing upon the time of the House in alluding to thia part of the question at all ; but I cannot underatand, and have never understood, why we could not have tree trada between the Provinces without Confederation. I may have been wanting in tiie political sagacity and experience of the hon. member, but I believe there would not have been the slightest difficulty in establish- ing reciprocal Iree trade between the provinces hy which we could derive all the necessarv commercial advantages without having our constitution destroyed and our freedom taken ftway from us. The hon. member has also brought forward a number of figures to show that, under this system of Confederation, tiie people of Nova Scotia have had so far the advantage of Cana- Estimates, such a .statement as {will enable us. to form a cori-ect idea of the aoluul sliite of our afTnirs. Th-^hon. member snys that wc .should b(> gmteful to {.'anada for the advantages tlmt wc deiive from connection ^vitll hci— that Canada Hud Nova Scotia now are one. I cannot un- derstand it to be so, when Canada lias the cn- tiru control of the pui-so strinf^ of the Domin- ion, and has a majority of tlif House of Coni- Juon9, backed uj) by a pliftnt Senate, and when we have had the spectacle pi-esentcd to us during the flret Session, of the Parliament i connection in the oiJinary transactions of liie. I may have a capitiU of five millions of dol!ai'= T go into paitnurship ^iih auothei' person having the same capital; but would I give liim the entire control and management ot my business, witii the power to set me at defiance ? I think, in all probabilitv, I would soon come to the conclusion that a partnership so conducted had little community of interest and ought to be terminated as soon as possible so far as my individual interests were concern- ed. The hon, member referred to the fisheries of the Province, and asserted that ^fb had to te grateful to Canada for having had the licema* fee raised to $12 a ton. I ask the hon. mem- ber who first gave the Americans the i-ight to fish m our waters at all. Was it not the Can«- ihan Government who pressed upon the Colo- nial office the necessity of coming to the ar- rangement, and in that way forced Nova Scotia toa^eeto it? Did not the Premior of tlw Administration in 1867 come down to this House and say tliat it was the Canadians who induced the British Governmcmt to coerce us into allowing the Americans to fish in our waters for 28. 6cL a ton. I have vmder my hand an extract from the Minute of Council, ia which the Government of tliis comitry ex- pressly stated theii- dissent from such a policy and admitted tlinl it was a disastrous one for- ced upon us by the Canadians. Now, I ask what is the advantage of thia 10s. duty ? Is il !i bargain, indeed, for which our fishermen should be proud and giutefid ; they should look upon it, doubtless, as a concession in the piace ot the boimty which they were to receive, ac- coi-dmg to the statements pubUshed pi-eviotB V9 the last elections. Every Confederate in the country, it will be rememtered, kept declaring from day to day that the ftshermen would re- ceive a bounty under Confederation. I be- lieve tliat tlie Minister of the fisheries was even oil his way to Nova Scotia to make some IH-epamtions to give an air of probability to t luise sttitements , but now, instead of a bounty, we have this license foe of lOs. imposed upon American fishermen, wlio are to have free ac- cess to our watei-s. The hon. gentleman also came forward as the advocate of Mr. Adderley. It was my pri- nlege— nay, rather say misfortune, to listen to the hon. Under-Secretary of State for tlie Col onies when he made tliat celebrated speech in whicli he attempted to talk down the liberties of the people of this country. It was my mis- tortuue to hear that ger.r in wliich they did; lor it was imturallv .siii)posed that tlie assertion made by Mr. Ad- derley, tiiat the pco|)lc of Nova Scotia were in iH'ogrcas of being reconciled by the c>inces.sions uiiidi' by t'anada, was ])erfl>ctly correct. J ask tiiis House and country was it true? We know perfectly well tliat the people of Nova Scotia ut that time were prepared to meet any concessions from the Canadians in the true spirit of freemen; they wei-e not so blind as not to undei-stand the object anv coiKjession* were intended to acliieve. Knt what uvh thw real iiicts ? When the Dominion Pariiamont tu-st met, how were the interests of the mari- time provinces respected ? Sir John A. Mac- lionald brought up his Upptsr Canadians, and Sn' George K, Cartier his Lower Canadians, to a partnersliip ty of interest 111 as possible, vere concern- le fisheries of ro had to kia I the liceuia* ) hon. tnem- the i-ight to lot the Caxui- on the Colg- g to the ar- INova Scotia vmlor of tlw lo\vn to this nadians who to coerce iis < fish in our B vuuler my >f Council, in country ex- ich a policy, )U9 one foi-- Sow, I ask, duty? la ii ir fishermen ^ should look iu the place ' receive, ac- 1 pi-evious tv erate in the pt declaring in would re- tion. I be- sheries was make some robability to of a bounty, ipased upon ave free ac- forward as was my pri- to listen to or tlie Col 1 speech in he liberties as my mis- th all the ideavouriug House of oto the mo- be settled, ol' Lis audi- il(:ulat«Ml to I the man- I uftturullv y Mr. Ad tiu were in cvjncossioiis •cot. J U!>k true? We 9 of liova o meet any in the true ) blind M concession* it a r« t hn Parliament the marl- J A. Mac- diaus, and nadiau^, to 6T THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 207 vote down tlie maritime representatives who felt that the tariff was most injurious to the in- terests of these respective provinces. Where was the conciliatory spirit then? The man- time representatives might solemnly denounce such legislation, biit the pliant majority of the Canadian leaders paid no heed to their appeals, until delegates were on their way across the water to ask for a Repeal of the Uniou from the Imperial authorities. Then the Canadians were quite ready, or at all events asserted they were, to make concessions to the maritime provinces— to protect interests which they had previously ignored. Then, and not till then they thought it advisable to take off the tax on flour and corn meal, on cordage, and abolish the light-house duties. We arc likewise told that the people of Nova Scotia have also been favored in respect to Militia duty. This sub- ject has been already referred to by the hon. member for Annapolis, and I need not dwell on it at any length. It can scarcely bo bi>- licved that the people of the Province are so simple as to be gulled into suppoi-tmg this Confederation by the offer of five shilhngs a day We are agitating tliis question Irom the conviction that to " accept the position" would be to fasten the scheme irrevocably upon us. The present Government may be the most virtuous m the world. It must, however, pass awai ; others will take their places who may be more open to influences that may be brought to beai-, and we will awake to find that hII hope of recovering our privileges has been lost. The members of this Assembly behevc that under the old condition of their constitu- tion they hud better secmity for their rights than can be given by concessions from Canada, made even at the instance and pressure of the Imperial Government. The hour for adjoiunment having arnved the debate was adjourned, llie House adjourned. Monday, August 24, 1808. Moruing Session. The House met at 11 o'clock. Hon. AxTY. General pi-escnted a petition from the Bishop, clergy, aiid magistrates, and others, of all denominations in Anchat, m iavor of the establishment of denominational schools. In doing so he stated that the petition was very numerously signed, but in the present condition of legislation, and at so advanced a period of the session, it was not probable that any steps could be taken immediately on the subject. He thought it would be well for gentlemen to in- form themselves on the subject of such vast importimce. The petition did not ask that the nn'sont school bill should be inU>rfered with, hut simply wished that it should be modified and amended 80 as to meet the wishes of the petitioners. . , , .i. Hon. Atty. (Jeneral introduced anothei petition oa the same subject. Mr Bi.ANCHARD was glad that the Attorney General hod presented a subject of such vast imporiance to n„. House, and asked that it should be scr ly considered. The present petition, he noi. ed tlid not ask Joi- what was demanded bv some gentlemen some years ago in the Legislature; this was far more reasonable in it« request. Mr. Blanchard also aUuded to the propriety of having the report of theSup**- intendent of Education on the table. Hon. Mr.,FLTNN e^Iaincd the object of the petition for the information of tiie House. Hon. Mr. Troop said that he presumed that the object of the Attorney General, in bringing forward the petition, was to obtain the opinTons ol" the members, and to take it up at another session. At the present stage it was liardly practic",ble to deal with the question in the way that its importance demanded, and as to meet the wishes of the people at Utfge. It was very desirable that the matter should he proceeded with cautiously. Hon. Atty. Geni-. said that tlie petition was not from any particular denomination, but from people of all classes of religious opinions. He thought it would be a» well if the petition was printed. Hon Mr. Flynn thought it was quite com- petent for the House to deal with the matter at its present session; for it simply asked to legal- ize what was already in existence. It was stated in the speech at the commencement of the h«i- sion that some amendment would be made in the School Bill, and that fact had gone to the country and originated the present petition. He was himself in favor of having the question submitted to the Committee on Education. The Petitions were finally sent to the Com- mittee on Education. Mr. Blanch ARD, from Committee on Private and Local Bills, reported up a bill t/> amend the act to incorporate Mire Bay Harbor Com- pany; also, the bill to incorporate the Royal Coal Mining company; also, a bill to legalize assessments in the district of Shelburnc. Hon. Mr. Troop presented petitions relative to railway appraisement. The House then went into Committee on Bills and passed the following:— To incoiporate the Gardiner Coal Mining Co. . ,. To incorporate the Scotia Coal Mining Co. To incoi-porate the Montrenl Gold Mining Association. . To amend the Acts of I860 relative to Sti- pendiary Magistrate and Police Constables in the townofPictou. To amend the Act |(|l(Brporating the Mit« Bay Harbor Company.' To incorporate the Rciynl Coal Mining Co. the Committee adjourned and reported. Afternoon Session. iiSp^d ewTTiodgt sk. id a bill to lOdge of Free- The House resumed at th Hon. Mr. Fergusson i incoi-porate the St. Andrew masons. . . Dr. Murray presented the jietition oJ the Officers of tlie Temperance Societies connect- ed with the Wesleyan Churches in Halifax, in behalf of an Inebriate Asylum. Tht rder of the day was then taken up. MR. BMITH'8 SPEECH CONCLUDED. Mr. Smith then resumed as follows: — Ih»r« no doubt that the House will be glad to l»»m that I have no intention of infliolang upon them any lengthy remarks in continuation of im: uuurrr-3 th". - — "." , when the hour of adjournment arrived on Friday last. I wiu» then on the poiut of refening to that 208 DEBATES ASV PEOCEEDINGS portiop of the lemurks oi' the hon. and leai-ned member for Inverness in which he told tlie !^ouse that that portion of the Minute of Council touching the Reciprocity Treaty was not correct — that notice of the termination of that treaty was given two yeai-s before the Cod federation Act was passed. Now iiis me- mory has failed him on this point, for it will be remembered by the House that the Conled- eration Act was framed at Quebec in 1864, whilst the termination of the Reciprocity I'reaty did not take place until I860. It may be reasonably supposed that _the'', Americaui?, knowing little of our provincial politics, thought that the Quebec scheme at that time was actually' acceptable to the people of this Province. I aloo on Friday last turned the attention of tlie House to another pai't of the hon. member's remarks in which he stated that among the manifold blessings we had derived from the Dominion Government was the imposition of two dollars instead of fifty cents a ton upon Ameiican fishing vesseLs. I then stated that so far from this country being on that account under obligation to tiiC Canadian Executive; in point of lact it was tiio . Canadians who forced our own Government in the first instance to agree to the license system of 2s. 6d. a ton, and thereby throw opiin our watere to foreign fishermen. I have no^v un- der my hand the Minute of Council iu which the Government of this Province expressed the reasons that had influenced tliem in taking the course they did; it will be seen to corro- borate the statements that I have made. Ai the conclusion of the document we find these expressiojis used : " It is not, however, necessary now to ex- pand the numerous objections entertained in this Province to tlie proposed Canadian poll- ly. Suffice it to say, that the Council, enter- taining the opinion that that policy would be most disastrous in its effects upon Britisli ijaterests, felt it their duty respectfully to snb- ' mit their opinions for the satisfaction of Her Majesty's Government." . . * Softhis House will i'eer, most chivuh-ously, un- ftetock to upijHir Canadian difficulties ? If we restore your con- stitution, the Canadians will he again embnr- rasscd." Thus was it rendered perceptible t<5 IV lembcr whether 3tbre this Hoiiso public man in ountry, and as- hy the Under- jlonies with re- tvas literally cor- substantiated? portunity of Ifs- and I must say ras an Imperial a position of in- e Empire, who so utterly \in- equally extra ons Seasion has this country — as not prepared It did we find 1 official autho- aordiiiary state- i63 the q\iestion looplc WHS that wn, so entirely i'Sis no necessity it at all. Now he is preparcn that, so utterly it any wonder to accomplish cncoimter diffi- :atements of a ley found the and parties on inimitted to the ion. member ir, ai7 for leading ise, but I think 1 his daring, to ns that. •red in pa.ssing ;es under Con t otherwise cii- )f Canada, ft)i in England to rty for 3 1 per fhink that gen not read for ? Let me tell ined for 3| jier uarantee from ;3, 000,000, and rowed on that nentioned, but cent, for the irrow on their iwed three for r, and it will if they pay o ['he impres^jion s was that we ion with which 1 for the pre- would offend icrttion enter- mec wo were oils — by meni- — " If you gft iPfOmf nf <)i- tore your con- again ernbnr- pfi'ceptiblc t<5 OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 20ft us tht't the idea nrevailing anoong public men was that Urtion was absolutely necessary to alloy Canadlttn difficulties— to prevent change after change of the administration, and to avoid injurious and t'ontinually occurring dead- locks in the govornment of the country. In ♦""ct, as Wiis obsei-ved by Mr. Gait, in order to ,.jttle the political difficulties of Canada, and enable her to carry on the government of the country, it was necessary to bring the Mati- time Provinces into this Confederation, and for this we have beeii sivcrificed. England knows the position of'T;aniida well— remembers the trouble she has given her— that she is conti- guous to the American frontier, and that there 18 a greater proclivity to annexation in that country ftt tlie present day than there is to be found in the Province of Xova Scotia. With these facts before her she has thought it safer to offend 330,000 Nova Scotians than incur the animosity of three millions of Canadians, who: ^^ sympathy with the American people is greater than'ourown. I was told by Mr. Adderley hiniself— " If we agree to this resolution what will be the result. We have done nothing more than has been done by your Parliament, —the Legislatures of Canada and Nerw Bmns- wick have asked for this Union. Now, if we were to grant you a commission ■ of enquiry, after assisting to Confederate you, we may Batisfy the people of Nova Scotia, but would incur the displeasure of the Canadian Govern- ment." In short, Mr. Adderley's opinion waa that the matter was out of the hands of the Imperial authorities, who had no right to med- dle with it. The hon. member f6r Inverness tells us that England declines to interfere, and a.s3ures us thai we mu.st fight out tins question bv oitrsclves — that we must go to the Cana- fhans and settle our difficulties with them— that if she M-ero now to interfere she would embar- i".iss the whole Confederation. Well, Sir John A. MacDonald came here and viitted a Con- vention composed of memboi-s of this House. What wonderful concessions did he offer ? lie tells you, "If you send gentlemen to Canada to arrange your financial difficulties, wo shall endeavor to come to some .satisfactory conclu- sion—we shall try to arrange this complicated machinery so fiu- us to press as lightly us pos- sible npon you." But he is answered that this is not all the people demand. There is some- thing stronger than the mere question of finance or trade snstHining the opposition to this Con- federation ; that there is a sentiment lying deep in the heiirtfl of the people— so deep that all the enjolery, artifice and seduction of the Canadian 'intrigiiers can neither overcome or cirenni vent it. The peojile of Nova Scotia feel that tholv constitution hi\s been atrociously destroved, and that they have Ix^en placed^ entireiy and substantially under the control ot the Dominion Parliament, who not only have usurped the purse strings, but hold imperious command of eveiw thing a p(;oplc value, and what hna hitherto made Nova Scotia prosper- ous. Nova Scotians feel there is an msult resting on their manhood— a stigma tiirnishinr; their honor, which th(-y owe to their dignity as fi-eemen to resent and -Nvipe away. J^vfii the threat of British coercion, nor the temptation of Canadian distinctions, shall not alarm the people at their post', or allure their rcpresru- fHtivos from thcii- duty. Come what may sir, 27 for the sake of the reputations of theimselv^ and thek children, the people Of this country, so long as they have a drop of \iiglo-Saxon blood remaining in their veins -wiU never, like the se(; a i-e)ictiUon of tlic errors which ciu-sed the fiolicy of Lord North. AVell would it bo lor the Bntish Gov- enmient of to-day to recall the warning lan- guage of the noble and patriotic Chatham. Mho in his dying lionr piotloiiio8 with ire the finost ntic. »• 18th Sep- li cannot b« misunderatood — these leswns which the moat powerful statesmen can be taught when the masses of the people suffer from anytlung Uke tyranny or oppi-ession. In theory they have not been undervalued by the fnends ol the hou. member. Let me here (-all hw at- tention to the sentiments of a public man ol ihi- f-ouutrv, when portraying the sigmficance of the popular voice, previous to September last This is the language of Dr. Tupper ui i-eference to the elections which occnr.ed at (Jumberlaud and Victoria about 1860 : " Cumberland and Victoria have recorded a Nfrdic-tthat will never l>e forgotten—that in this free country thew^ w no power that can with-stand the voice of the people and despoil them of their rights; that it will not do lor men to attain high office by means which de- grade the position they occupy." May we not regard this language as prophet- ic ? Littla iMii-haps did that hon. gentleman thmk then Uwt the time would come when he would ignore the glorious sentiments that speech contained. ... -.i In conclnsion I may say that it is impossible tor any one of us to predict what may be the result ofthe agitation which ia now abroad m this couutiT; IJut, sir, we may reasonably hope that the tiiiie L-i not far dUtant when tlie peo- ul« will be restored to the freedom and inde- pendence they have last. On that day when the decision of the eountrj- was given tor the hrst time, with unlieard of unanimity on the uuestionofContederation, the people erected their own standawl— nailed their coloi-s to the mast, and wrot«! " no surrender" upon their folds The veil which hides the secrets ot the future f^om our 11 lerstandings we may not araw aside; but as sure as there is Majesty in u-utli—invincibiUty in justice, so certain must the people triumph, and "victory perch upon our banners." Still, sir, it may not be so. Ihe machinations of our enemies may deleat us— our efforts may be foiled. But triumph is not the only recompense patriotism can claim. Time strides on with rapid and resistless step. Tliis legislature shall pass away— this genera- tion shall follow in its course. Other piibhc men will occupy om- places— other generations shall perpetuate our names. The chronicles oi our country's history shall bear the record of our public acts in the conaict we ai-e cnga- ted in; and our children shall point to them with pride. The same chronicles vaW pourtray tlie imperishable story of the men who assas- sinated the constitution of their country, and suuok down the liberties of tlie people. 1 heir children and posterity shaU point to Uiem only with the finger of derision and ol scorn, and the grass upon tlieir graves shall be unmoisteii- ed by tJie tears of their comitrymen; whilst thttse who have stood foremost in the stniggle for freedom and justice, will, though they have nothing else to leave behind them, be euablet to transmit to their children the noblest ot all iuheritances— the memory of their patriotism, ftud the tribute of a people's giatitude. SPEECH OF HON. PROVINCIAL SECEETAKT. Hon. Prov. Secretary said :— After the eloquent an.l lengthy speeches ^hich have Uien made in tliis debate, I should have telt iatisftsd to have allowed the resolutions to pass whh my silent vote had not the hon. ntcaa- ber for Inverness, in the course of his remarks, gone into [some statistics in connection with financial matters. By doing so he hwrnade it incumbent on me as the financial officer Ot the Government to take some pains, not only to set his figures right, but to shew the Housa and country the tiillacv ofthe statements mad*, here and elsewhere by leading Confederata* •and Confederate journals, to the effect tlia Nova Scotia has been a pecuniary burthen uu Canada. In o . s KedemiiUon of Debt do. Civil Government, Admuiistration of Justice, Penitentiary, Ijeglslatioii, Militia, Quarantine and Iinmigralion, Marine Hospital, Pensions, r • i < PubUeWork>- i Uuildings— I.ighl House Construction, Ditto— St. Peter's Canal, Ocean and River Steam Service- Subsidies, LiVht House and Coast Service— Slaintenance Humane Establish- nients. Fog Trumpets, Buoys and Beacons, Steamer " Druid"— Repairs, Do. Maintenance, «92,97l.3» 179.99 55,000.00 20,945.84 19,700.00 13,616.25 96.00 105,065.08 6,014.30 6,111.49 329.50 4,800.00 22,645.29 22,10»,S0 1900.0U 42,526.40 9,937.93 4,555.26 212 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS *N( Schr. " Dariug," sable and Seal Island.'?, Fisheries, Indian Fund, Savings' Bank, Pi-inting— Mi9cellaneotw, Distressed Seamen, Indians, !j^al Station, Railway Construction, Qratuitie«< — to widows oi" deceas«d officials. Customs — Salaries and Coiitinicn- cies, Customs — Returned Uulieu, Eicise, Do. Returned Diilies, Fost OiKce, Stamps, Railway Mainteuanre, Province of Nova Scotia— Subsidy Account, Ditto— Due June 30, 1867, ehargei' W Public Debt of Province, 4,911.90 6,591,89 231.45 107.25 18,390.00 138.95 1,390.45 750.00 1,335.88 193,000.00 240.00 79,180.48 10,339.48 4,175.01 158.58 73,039.13 237.75 250,030.95 333,581.00 860,887.70 Thos. «2,2G5,233.84 Fred. Kniokt, _. ^ ,, . Acting Auditor. Finance Dept. ot Canada, Auditor's Office, Haiitax, August 15, 18B8. .STATEMENT B. Abttract of Receipts qftlie Dominion of Ca- nada, tn the Province cf J\^ova Scotia, from Ut July, 1867, to 3(Jth June, 1868. Customs, ^1,070,138.02 Light duty, Excise, Post Office, Casual Revenue, Mkiiiage Licenses, Bank Imposts, JHnes and Forfeitures, Stamps, Railways, Quarantine, Fisheries LicensA, Penitentiary, Marine Hospital, Sick Mariner's Fund, CapiB Race Light, Sable Island, Si^rnal Station, Distressed Seamen, paving's Bank, Militia, Sales of Public Works, Province of N. Scotia— To credit of PubUe debt of tlie Province, 12,756.21 18,655.21 41,466.00 890.62 2,291.86 891.48 1,525.12 4,766.48 348,660.10 281.03 12,«11.85 873.50 123.92 2.96 9,32 490.59 ,., 556.70 1,064.87 16,000.00 79.74 3(.'8.50 •51,434,504.14 116,204.05 *l,5o0;708.19 Finance Dept. of Canada, Nova Scotia Brancli Audit Office, Halitax, August ISth, 1868. ' Tho8. F. Knight, • Acting Auditor. I proceed now to remark upon some of the "i^oi^* '"■'^^^ statement. 'Hie importations of 1867 anu 68 it will be rem«nbered were eftect- ed by a variety of circumstances. The Repeal ot the Reciprocity Ti-eaty : the cessation of the war in the United States ; the Confederation Act, and the general depression of busiaiesa a!i over the world, caused a large falling off, and there would of necessity be a correapondina decrease m the Revenue. As to the light duty !u . r,°": , ''"^'l"' "*" ^^ opposition remai4«(d that that had been .iwept away— that I con- sider one of the Imrdships of U?e new system It IS removing the tax Horn those that are able to pay, and jjlacing it upon the poor(jr classes. Ihe duties were put on to liui-nish aifund i'or Uw erection and maintenance of lighthouses A great part of it was realized from foreio-n ves sels, and wad therefore clear gain. It is truu tliutapurtofit was paid by our shipowneiy l)iit I must say, though I am interested in shin' ]iing myself, that no class of i^cople are so well able to pay such taxes as they are. The duty was so light as not to effect our trade, und yet It luniuilied a considerable sum of money Tt has been taken off, not because it Wiis fell oppressive in Nova Scotia, Jwt Ijecanseit did not smt the lake tmde of Canada to liave sooli a tax imposed there. Rei'erring now to the Item of the I>ost Office, I find tliat in 1867 the e.Tpendituro in the Dejjartmant was ;_«-86 • 127.14: Income, .f 69,040.99 ; Deficit, S17,'- 116.15. ' v , Last, year, under Donjinion management ?. f.fP^"^'*""' ^^ :— .<873,039.13 ; Income! »j41,406.00 ;, Deficit, ^31,573.13. We are cliarged in tlie Dominion accounts with $105- 000 expenditure of last year for militia ser- vices. I find that in the year 1805 the amount expended was only about $80,000, and I ask the House if that is not enough for this country to contribute to its defence ? T ask if ftSO 000 IS not enough 1 In 1866 there was spent .ftl40 - 000 but I think that #60,000 of that was siien't uselessly. In consequence of the Fenian alarm the whole of our revenues were placed at the disposal of the government, and the expen- diture was, I think, somewhat reckless. For my own part I do not Ijelieve in making aii expenditure except for the training of officew and sergeants, and for that #50,000 would be timple. It has been .said that by the live davs ti-aming we spent #200,000 for defence. If so we should from this time foilh save the greater part ol that sum. I'he charge for light-hou«p and coast service seems to me to lie fi-iCOOO above a reasonable sum, and tlie charge for tlia expenses of the Druid is likewise excessive -As to the item of railways, it is weU known tliat before the Tupper government went om ot power they inci-eased nearly even- man's salary on the i-ailrond— the totals of the calcn- latioas which I have sulimiUf-d are Receipts, Kxpeuiliture, #1,550,708.19 2,265,233.84 J|,714,525.65 Now , I have iWade up a statement of tha amounts which should not appear in the cal culation at all. #66,000.00 has been charged tor redemption of the debt, and hps bwn for \L '^^^^'"^ "^ °^ Pi-ovince notes. But the notes -lave o.tilj hpon replaced by Canadian notes, winch I am informed have been put into cir- culation to the amount of our own withch-awu. Ihen the ajrears of St. Peter's Canal wei-e to have been met by the issue of debentures, and we would therefore not have liad to have pro- OP THE HOtTSR Oi' ASSEMBLY. '^^'^ W,.l ior that a..ouu, a^d.the sa.ne i. U-«e oi' "„;;^^^ ^r«it;ut^'''SXo:An^S^^ die charge for tlie PiClou i-tulwny. i ,veme-9 mav wk me " where are the olghf Mr. bLanciiabd--I only cliargey calr lations. ■ „t' that iimount, amlthsrt Canada wh? allowed Hon. I'Kov. St I. conti.med :-They W -J ;Xe' ^/"^^ ..^.^o and a hiilf nalHoiiS. jjut ncA been omittoifroux some «» ^^"•^l^.^l"'^^''^ ^". deb was i^resctitM by aaset8,.cort»i.^in2 >.vhich have beep given to tho l^ibhc. T e ^ !' J\^^^^^„^ bite prop^^tty tothe^VAlae .leduoted items are aa followB : Rjjmpt. n ^^ .;~ J^n^,, ^,. ,He anioun.. Tho d6bt o of Debt #55,000; St. Peter's UawU #^56 914 ». oi every cwAimH, wn^ '^«*' ^P«^ Pictou a^Uway ^193,000; VVindBor and Ani^- '-;\'^'^J;iXj, and'the.v wn« «ot. n^' In the polii Railway f391,390 75; An-en,^ propw '^^^■^^^^.^^^^^^ property to shcnv fbr'thu' S434.091.;0. vTotiil*- ,430,990. .,. . ■ 2jit V The Canadian debt was actually ''.It wiU be seen thai 1 have anade a d^notion ^^^^^ ^iUioh., but the two province^ tprarreaw which wore '-'h^^-^^'? .• ^,^ J"" ^J^* e^e aUowed to assuniO the ditVonnu:e am^ to Union Act went into operation it om dejt e>- tie pdblie proportr. What Sed eight miUiom the Dominion Govern- J^^^t^. ^J^^;^'; aid they il\c^ /Ihere can ment were sUU obliged to pa.v it ""f on y the J*"J^"^J ^t^,,^{ rhey tobk ■ tli« T>«ying and left interest on the e.xco*. wsus eharg^ble to us J*^^ "^ ';^;?,„ ^n view of all = the tiacts they Th, whole amount :of an-earB pmd up to th^ f^^^f^'^^ ^„u to clikrge a dollar of the time i. $434,691.70. Now suppose vyo had ^;^^'^^''^,. debt against us than to charge lol gone into ConlederaUon, many o tlM»e '^J^g ™^^.^ Bmnnfick. The hon. member claims constituting the arrears would not ! «f "^J^^^^ came here last winter and said have been presented tor payment. In the ^^^^'^^j^^ ,,.,^it of five montlM operahoiLS was *,ttiementof a man's busmes., ^h«»J^;, '^^j. ^t we had inenri^d a debt to Canada 01 oounts are advertis;!d lor, as a maiuii oi ,.„(> Q^y , ,;, • . > , -. ^m-se. all his debts are sent m and so .was ^^^O Branch AnB-The Pvor. See'y fa mw- with us when the change took place, it %st- : "; _ i ^id not say so. . , . ;". Sdnot gone into Confederation not more ^•^^|;7;,J^'V Sect, conti.med. -This iS the- San half the sum would have been c^tol U^ Hon^i ^Hiis speech as i."ported in J^u^ry and that wouLd be striking oft igi200,000 Bui ung f: j^ ^ ^^^ f^ctgy i midci-toke tcr .t ^ye bad had to meet it all we sho^^^ ha'-;^ Sv' again repenting, that if wrong, th« Gor- Issued d«ljentures, or U" we found om-selv*^ at ->^y^^^ J^j,^ ^^J^ ^^ conti-artict riae, rii»t iSrond of the year #400.000 ^^^l^b- we could ;«^^^«^^ ^,^.^ Government have ^*,'^t^^i« No- have i-aised the duties aud paid it off. Cnder ^"«J^ " . ^, .^ Snotia pui^oses, §600,000 ^v cii'cums'umces it should »ot h^^e .'.ee ^-^^f^J^'.^y received." Tha* is just the put into the account, became the Komiuio^^ wuagewhiJi I attributed «> the hon. mem boverument can never be called on again o ^^.-^f j^^ ^ouse can judge of its accuraby . 11. Add thes(^ amounts togeii.ei' and thes ap- "jei ,^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^ ^ ^^^ ^^. ^ ^^^^ pear thus: that require ftirthet explanation. JW e hat^ STXTKMEKT o. «.«2'2 000 ofpro\'ince uotcs m Circulation, tntt. ^. pete,... c;.,„.-^*g- U:^lBh"i"ntS,ai «o^,„ic. C.„v.„. ^- -■ ?^» "■""' SK'- — Kff " n£:3 «..A.u.H...- — -■ ^^ ir;;»"is^"Sr/=/c^ . 434,691.70 luid not been paid for five yeai-9,a«d^l>owibly a A^'^*^'^ •-• Hrgo portion of it will never b.vCidlfeS been provided tor by .ssue ol , .^ M^'^I ot -hS ^>es to a large extent : debentm-es • • ■ v.- -.- ' ^ ' ' '"""' "*' „ ,,„, ,.i,,i,t millioas, w U form a pan Kevepue received by DoiiJim.on '^^'f'^jZ ^^^^'o^ ^^-^'^^^'^ Government ... .. -- — - ''^^"i- it 'the hiten^st on its cost we should get ere- lacts niiarepreseitieii eveii' «»>■ " "J *^^' 214 DEBATE3 AND PROCEEDINGS ■ leader olUie opposition and the confede- im feas ridiculed the ideu ol'sendinir a d le gaf^on to England. They said that the dele- gates would be told that Nora Scotia was not w3 ?' ':'-''^f"^'*«'l "t "», '"'d that they would not get u heanug Ht the Colonial oftice i think Uie tacu us stated by the delexates *hew pi-etty pkinly that tho*e gentlemen L^ not only heaid but were very patientlv heard und veiy courteously treated. They v^ere told auit notwitlutanding the Iniperial Parliament tould not repeal the act so soon, yet every wfloit would be made to make the position J- LisUictory. Mr. Adderley, in explanation of ae^course pm^ued by the Bxitish Govez-nment, oj nSh ''v''^''^'* '"'T •* ""ion of some kuid ol ou he 2sorth Amerieun provinces had been a leading topic in Nova Scotia for U veara and was hrgt initiated by tlie two leadei-s «f the oppositivo parties m that pro>ince. In 1861 * unammoiu resolution of the Nova Scotian tarLamentmitstavour stated that the sub- ject bud been mooted from time to time— this subject whioh in 1868 was said to take tlmt rrovince by surprise. The election of lS6a "i*tead of supporting tlie case of the hon. gen- ilemen, went really the other way. The ho„ gentleman said the topic of conlbderation was ^LT^^ a party cry at that election, aiid ^emed to thmk that that was in liis labour; S,!.^^ ^T *"' "'« ^"'i'^"' not ha>ing been I'^e a party cry was a convincing proof tliat no stm,g leehng against the prop^ftion eS- ^ . *n n"''^ ** ''-'•'^'"S existed the question undoubtedly would luive been madA,«rtv ^ry and would have been brought forward ut the husuugs. The fact was that all parties kwT.nl^'r'^"^'""'^.^''"'^'^'"'' '""J- t\Jrot\,,^, a would have o,.en simply ridiculous to have rmaed such a question at that election " ,,„V,^f.\«^S"charmnt nonsense heard from anJLnglish statesman before? Mr. Adderlev ceptable to tlie people because the que^tiwi people pass on a measure which was nev^r eTeftSth*^''""-- ^^''"^ government had e>ei tested the question on the hustings or in ^? r'M^f "J^*"^* '^'*'"''' have teen diHer. u'^ Adderley goes on to say : ' 70W, what he had idieady said about the liTZo! '"''/^"^ ^■"P'^^i '" his oSio" unini •■ ";, ««»fle'"''"'^ argument on that point, lor aU parties were so unanimous dk tlio question 01 confed.a-ation that it was not oven nused on the hu.sti«gs. But he would deal i^nll .. !?"• e'^"""""*"'^ proposition of an XmL r !*" J''^''''^'' "'^ such a question on Kiounds ol abstract principle. The hon. gen- tne head ot the {{overument as having laid Jown Uie principle Umt an existing Lc^-iX- wo d l."l ,^^..„^-- «-^«-- .^-elf; he Ii-eland, in which he Mud Oiat a princiole «o oudjageous and democmtic struck a^t 3*^ oi the foundauons of all government. The In^ union furnished a precedent agaiiwt it • the Seotcli union furnished a precedeiOagainsi If. Commwsionei's being appointed on both sides to dmw up terms, without an appeal to the people. Again, in the o««, of the Can. ..iuu union m 1832 an appeal to the people was l>ropo^d and rejected ; but, perhaps, the be« pi^cedent was that which 4.u flu-ki^hed by xw^ ^- ''■ ^■''^"''">8 tlio constituencie;, of -Nova Scotia by one-third, without ever A-ew. Znlj"^™T *')^ T '^PP'^"' ^« the people shoulj bo made. On the contiurv, the chwU occurred immediately atler his elation, and he repudiated the making fresh ai,peal to the peo pie on the subject." ^ Jivery one knows that tlmt Act was passed ul,^',','". i*"*!^^ "'""••'"' '^'^ the only reason Hh> It did not become law was that it wa» burked m the Upper House. Mr. Adderley proceeds : — ' ••.'\jid when Uie hon. gentleman talked of he old Constitution of Nova .Scotia, and said that il care were not taken the people of that provinc*' would secede back to tJiat Coastitu- uon, he would beg him to remember that th» old Constitution of Nova S^oUa was simply atter all, the gift of the Crown. The Govei^or who was sent out from this countiT had a eommusion which authorised him to summon an Assembly and that was the extent of the iberties of the jjrovince. There was no char- t43r lor ^.ova Scotia an;l no foundaUon for a constitution beyond that which he had just "mnteT " ^*^""'"*' ^^^ P'"*^'^''"^ constitution was Thisis jast the language used by the Attor uey General last winter in reference to our constitution. If that be tlie case why should the Impenai /'arhament attempt to deviate rom the doctrine by anuuning the constitution tLat had been given us by tlie crown? Mr. Adderley maintained that it was proper to ab rogate our constitution without an appeal to the people, but what does Mr. Disraeli sair when speaking upon the Irish Church quei- tion .-' He said : ^ case ot the question of the Irish Church thLs Soutl^l t «""H'--'"«" the memter for south Lancashire, who he was certain had i-e- l^H '^f '^^^"'^'P'^ ^" tlie debates on uTe Insh Church; tor He had quoted, and vei^ justly, a speech ot Mr. Pitt on the union with Although we have not done nil we could have wished, we have at least secured this for tJiepgopZeofthiscountiy, that their constitu- 1011 shall not be subverted without an appeal o them so that if there is to be a great mTd umentable change in the iaslituUons of the ., '"^'^.J^'"i:?.o'n. it shall be by the people o( the Lnited Kingdom, and not by the maehina- non.s ol a party of politicians, who have seized u lavoraljle opportunity of ean-vlng their revo- lutioiiaiy designs." There we find the doctrines of two Imperial tninistei-s clashing. It is t« be feai-ed that on such points they are about as unreliable as the statements of public men on this side of the Atlantic. We fmd, however, that when the question ol the Irish Church came up Mr. Adderley departed from the ^-iews of consti- i..Li_..a, ...nt.M-., niueh lie lOok lU I'eleieuce to ]S ova Scotia. Surely if any people had a right to be consulted we had on a question of such transcending imj)ortance. The question has been asked time and again "whyL there to much disoootent in Nova t^otia? \\Tiat OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. ai5 (ir# the people complaining of?" I will s(at»* what the people complain of. Thn first com- plaint is }hat a goTemmnnt, backed uji by h few supijortert, bartered away tho rights of the people contrary to tlieir wishes. In the next place they complain that fhohc men, after doing, so tried to make the people swal- Jow thfr idea that this was the best thing that could happen for this Province, bringing tinan- rial statements forward to shew that the. conn- try was in the worst possible position, and to shew that our only salvation lay in annexation to Canada. When the question had been sent to the polls and decided against them what did these men say ? Soon utter the ' ghtecnth of September the C'o/on(»f published this Ian - gnnge : " Thank God tlie V nion is s^afc beyond tlie riach of llowc'and his ti-easonablc pack. The Union ]y\rty are, utter all, victorioas — they have done their work I'nitlifiilly, ano can af- ford to laugh at the puny cflorts of the adver- sary. Standing on the high nimimrts of Union, we hurl defiance ut tlie ignoble faction which gropes and golbles and gnashes its teeth around the base. Wo smile at their numbers and their rage and challenge them to do their most — they can do nothing. The Dominion of Canada will remain and floniTsh while tlic British Empire laits, and thai we fondly trust will be for ever." The iSPEAKER aaid lliat it was out of order to quote from newspaper articles. Hon. Pnov. Sec'v — If gentlemen were al- lowed to read low and abusive langiiogc on one side the example -would be followed on the other. The people complain that they have been sold like so much marketable property, and in a way in which no free and intelligent people would submit to. These are a few of the reasons why this agitation is being continued to the present day. The Duke ot Buckingham givct* us to understand than an cl^oi't will be made to .satisfy our people, ano when I heard that members of the Dominion goveminent were coming to visit us, 1 thought that a desirt would be shewn on their part to remodel the scheme, or that we should be placeh we shall enter Con- fedtration. I n\n only sav should the dwlit exceed ^ffi8.0O0,0UO, hy i^rSOO.OOO it is pn)rtl(!d for. 'ihero is Wclaasoin the Imperial Act which will at once relieve the Pi-ovincc l'r> :m any charge in ct mneotion with the additional amount. This clause provides that in case the debt of any Provinoa exceedfl the Hraout\ts stated in th.e Aot that Proviii?e shall be rhiu;^- ed 5 per cent by tht Gwieral Government on that poi-tion of the debt in excoW of its pro- portion; but on the othor hand, it is providid that the asset* rcpresentfci by the debt shall belong to the Provinoa. l-ov in«tancrr>;ion of tlip Provincial Euilding opptflite, and il our debt exceeds the $,6,000,0{)0 by the lunount required for that building then it bscoinpu our owa jji-o- pcrty. If the (General Government used it for a Post Office they would have to pay the rent into the trcasuiy, thas relieving the" Province from the charge of a single dollar." ^ Now if the Dominion Governincnt arc ORtisfied, a.s the hon. member ibr Inveniess intimated, to pay us rent for tlic projtcrty, why did they not come forward candidly and say ^' the building belongs to you and wu are will- ing to hire it from you.'' pn the contraiy the ownership whs di.spute(J on the gro*ind tliat a part ol its cost liad been paid before the Act (;f Union went into openitioji. IS'otwithstJuidiiig that there is every desire on tiie part of the Government to appropriate that buihUng to tho ujstis for which it was intended, from Uie rontraclfd view tak(?n by the Canadian Gov- wnr.icnl we have been unable to do so. When the ownership is settled it ' will be time enough iusc to pay the rent. I niove the adjournment of the debate. The debate was adjpurued. The House adjounied. TcESDAY, A uj. 25, 1868. The -Hou^ic met at a o'clock. The following bilk were read a third time: - To incorporat« the Moatoeal Gold Mining Aseiocjation. To incorporate the 3coti» Coal Company. lo moorpoitte the illm. Bay Hnrhor Co. To amend tbf^ Act. rt>lative to SliixiudiiirY MajBistmte and Police Cooitublwi itl the town ol Pictou. Mr. NoRTHur prewnted a petition in r(»fer ence to schwjj matt«rs, ;i.rid another fs-om Old- ham in reference U> a rcn*i. Dr. Brown nrcscntert two petitions r«latiT*i to iTiilway appraisemtrnt. Mr. DiCKBT presented a petition on- the .wme subject. Mr jEisenhaiter presented a petition o* W 1 obin in reepect to a gfrant of land. Mr. Blanchart) reported up neveral billi from the Committee on Local and Frivatrt Bills. Hon. Prov. Sec. introduoed a bill in respect to the study of Anatomy. Also laid on the table tlie petition ofW. Handley, with respect to Crcwn Lands. Also the Report, of the Rej.eal Delegntes. Also despatches from the Duke of Bucking hPin with respect to titles and order of nre(v» denoe. Hon. Mr. Troop reported from Committee on Laws an aot with rr-spect to the Supremo Goujt and its officers. Tho order of the day was then resumed. ««:hatr. on the Repeat Resolntlon*. MH. KIDSTO.V'S SPEECH. Mr. KiDSTOX said ;— In lising to address tho House on the (jiiestion which is now agitating tho ooimtry from centre to circle, I do ho with the conviction that, placed in the position I am it 19 my duty to speak «nit learh^selv what I be- lieve to be the i)redommant feoHng'in tliis pro- vince. 1 ihall endea\-our to meet the lender ot i.he ojiposition in the same spirit in which he has come befort; this House. I desire nothing more than that llu! Eii.'ish Government and the whole civiUzoredominute through tho length and breadth ol tho Province of Nova Scotia. When addressing this House in the Jirst part of the session, 1 boheved that this House felt, with thp e.Tception of the hon. gentl(?man lor Inverness and one other member, that a gi-eat wrcmg had been perjietrated upon the people of this coun- try through the miHiepitsentation of- five or six gentlemen in wliom the confidence of tliiK counti7 had been placed. I felt that when th» fact \\-aH brought home fairly and fully to the British Government, they would not hesitnte at once to redre.^s these M-rongs, but we have lived to meet again, and I am norry to say that to the Wrongs perpetrated upim Nova Scotia they liave added insult ; but to far from tho people of this country lecling for one moment that they must accept the situation, I bcheve, from the depths of my heart, that they are and will romaiii^ dissptisfiod until they have nd themi>ielve.s W this accursed connection with a peopln with whom they ai-e utterly at variance, and whom they have commenc(5d to hate. This f( eling did not exist before, but it is grow mg upon tl'.e iicoplr, and daily iiicrcasingin in- tensity. Tho hon. member stated at the outset that "it was hard Irt Hok against the pricks." Wi^il he gave us a quotation worthy of him. ml Company. y Hnrhcir Vn. I to SlijieudiRtT )l<»irt the town fttltion in rffer- other fir>m Old- lotitions rftlatinx r"titioB wi" the a petition (rf W, nnd. up (ifTHral hilli al anri frivhtrt a bill in respect petitiou ofW. "n Landfl. ■nl Delegnites. like of Bucking order of pretse- ■om Committee the Snpremo T) rmmmed. tetolntloikt. ECH. ^ to address the 1 now agitating sle, I do HO with le position I am, naely what I be- ling in tliis pro- leet th« lender irit in which he [ desire nothing opcrninent nnd iild understand fechngs which h and breadth ■?ootia. When irst part of the 80 t'olt, witli thp 1 lor Inverness reat wrong had lo of this coun- itdon of' five or ifidence of tliif" that when tiiis md fully to the Id not hesitote I, but we have Try to 8ay that 1 Nova Scotia J far from the one niouiont tion, I bf^hevc, t they are and ■ hey have nd lection with a •ly at variance, nc(5d to hate, but it ia grow- leii^asingin in- je outset that ; the pricks." ortiiy of him. OF THE HOUSE OP ASSBMBLY. 217 and I was better satisfied with that than with hi* former ones when he only quoted from Blackstone and his own favorite authors. In the present instance ho quoted from oiic who is far above all human authority, he they poets or philosopher; but did he feel the full force of tuat quotation — tliat on the 18th September last the people had mirroimded him, with one exception, with a circle of these political priokb who represent the wishes of th« people here. Did he feel that it is only a physical material that he is dealing with, or the pricks of conscience that troubled his mind when he lays down at night upon his bed, knowing that he was fighting again.st a righteous oauso which must eventually succeed ? If he appre- ciated the moral weight of that quotation then it would bo better for liim. Surrounded as he has been with the baneful influences of the capital, he has been ' i.ought into this great vortex swept down against all his conscienti-^ ous convictions to oppose, the whole people of Neva Scotia. An open acknowledgement, it is said, is good for the soul, and I assume that he intended his quotation as such. !May we not go a little further back and ask that gen- tkmar. if he will follow out the same autho- rity ? I ask him if he has not a precedent prior to the one he gave, for we read far back in history that when the Israelites were in bondage they found a deliverer, who, although he had enjoyed all the honors of the Court of Pharaoh still at the expiration oi lifty years came forth a true man and a patriot ; and when hf! saw his countrymen beset by the Egyptian he took part with whom ? With his countrymen. May I contrast this act with that of*^ Sir Fenwick "Williams when he held the reins of power in his native coimti-y. He had enjoyed the honors of the Court of St. James, and he was sent to this Pro\-ince to sell hie country. But the hon. member may follow me a little further in these quotations and recall the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. The rich man was clothed in fine linen and fared sumptuously every day, but Lazarus was a beggar and the dogs came and licked his sores, but by and bye a change took place. The rich man died and found himself in hell, but liazarus awoke in Abraham's bosom. The rich man wanted a little water, and seeing Lazarus afar off" implored him to let him have a drop of water to cool his ton- gue. Lazarus could not help hhn, hut what more. The nch man said — I have five breth- ren, oh, that one rose from the dead and told them the state that I am in. What was the answer ? If they will not believe the very man of whom I have spoken, Moses, and the Prophets, they will not beheve me, although he rose from the , dead. Sir, this contrasts badly for the conduce of the five lawyers and one doctor who have sold their countrymen, who will go down to the unfathomable depths set apart for all evil doers — a lawyer or a doc- tor. A story irrst went the round of the papers a few years ago, and I am sure the Speaker will excuse me for quoting from mich a source after the hon. member for Inverness hRs b»en alV-.ivpd the hwin-.e privilege. He brought up the Co/o«isr as the very founda- tion and strength of all he had to urge to this House, and yet at one lime, in 1850, the \ery same gentleman characterized these papei-s 28 ftjs "dirty rsgs." I read in the papers aoms years ago that a foreign potentate visiting the Court of St, James asked Her Majeety in what consisted the strength and glory ol the Em- pire, and thereupon she took up a Bible and handed it to him as her reply. So 1 say my quotations are not to be despised by Her Ma- jesty in the case of Nova Scotia, and, mo' > over, we will find that whilst the learned mem- ber from Inverness may endeavor to hack up his position from such authorities as Black- itone, yet he will find the majority of his countrymen has such common-sCTise views of <;ommon things that they will upset all his sublert'uge and all the extracts he can adduce and cut and carve to suit his purpose. If he wiU read Blackstone, and turn to the pages where he speaks of the wrongs of the people, I will defy him to produce any thing that will clash with divine truth. Before going strictly into the discussion of these resolutions before us, I wouM wish to answer some observations of the hon. member. I am here for a first time as a representative of ttie county of Victoria ; I am fresh from the people, 1 have had no expenence in those in- fluences which may sway some gentlemen and induce them to sti^ay from the path of political duty, but I take my views from this stand- point. 1 contend that the farmers, fishermen, labourers and mechanics are the bone and sinew of your country, and when you mature a me»i8ure that will do a wrong to those people you are perpetrating an act which no one can deferd in the face of this country. I believe if the 1 . member had continued to hve in the county of Inverness, instead of the capital, he would defend the very same cause that I am advocating at this moment, Eind he would nan no risk in presenting himBell' before any con- stituency in this provuicc. AVhat I mean is this : that there are certain influences con- Bbiatly operating in this city which one from the country finds it difficult to resist. The capital is the centre and heart of the whole pro\'ince, and if you paralyze the extremities death will reach that heart. If the Confe- derates are to be found in numbers in this city, before twelve months have passed they will feel the consequences of their mistaken policy, and in the course of my speech I will explain why this will be so. The hon. gentleman referi'ed to the Colonist, and I believe he found a mare's nest. I shall show befoi-e I have done how entirely mistaken the hon. member has been. Hon. Speaker — Every gentleman has a right in this House to make extracts from speeches of members, as reported, but not to read editorials. Mr. KiDSTON — I do not intend infringing the rules of the House. 1 purpose to read from the journals. The hon. member gave us some extracts from a speech of Mr. Johnston, as i-eported in the Colonist, and I intend bringing forward resolutions moved by that gentleman in 1850, to the following effect : — " And whereas, secondty : As regards the Legislative Council. The constitiction of the Tjpgislative Council is inconsistent with the harmonious working of the present mode of government and its usel'iil influence as a Le- gislative Body. With a majority created by the government of the day fcr securing party 218 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS m meaeuren, the wegislativc Council w, for masl eMcntial purpoMni, but the subBCrvient iustni- nifint of the Provincial Gijvprnmeiit. 'I'he ■ame miyority, on a change of parties, would make it an obstnictiye Body opposed to tlio existing administration and the wishes of the people, a« expressed by their RepresontaUves in thifl House." I feel that I am in a better position to ouoto the reniarlai of Judge Johnson, for 1 was ucv.t in this arena fighting against him. Now read the second resolution, with reference to the re- marks ol the hon. member respecting the Le- gislative Cr,.,nul. I blush to think that any one could stand up here and assert that th.it body, as at present constituted, rei)re«'ut^ in any way the sentiments of the people of tliin province. We find that they swept awuy the Council in Ontario, and in P. E. Island they had it elected by the people. Whv fiave wc not a represoiitutive Legislativo Council r II- they thought proper to «wocn iway the Cc-ncil in Canada, then are we in li better position to follow their example. I will tell you why. It must be in the recollection Ol gentlemen around these benches, some years !*f '7' n ^J^? "-'"■^^^"t'**'^® body liad trans. acted a.1 the business of the counU-y and wore ready to return home, they were told by the Legislative CouncU that unless they received pay^d expenses, the same as the members of the House they would not agree to allow the ^tter anything. In this way they forced the House to pay them for their attenJan. ., and to pass an Act which ought not to have been passed witliout reference to the people :Mv . doctnne on this point is that tiiese gentlemen aJid helped themselves to tlie people's money they ought to be in a position, as an l.onoum-' bJc body, to say that they would aencefortli go to the people lor their seats. My remarks, 1 must add, only apply to such of them as per- petrated this p.ct, and not to those who have conie m subsequently, and had nothing to ( j ■with this dishonourable act. It is our duty as • representative body, to have these wrongs nghted. What now becomes of tJie argument ol the opposition, that because the resolutions and address of last winter were not submitted to the Council, therefore tliey were unconsti- tutional and null ? The hon. member is adrift upon the political sea without a single plank to stand upon. A man to have iniluence now in tl s country must have soiueUiing substan- t al to urge bclorc he can carry conviction to the mmds oi the jyjople; ho must not denond on mere subterfuges that can bo swept away like a spider's web by the hrst breath of public opinion, ' When some of the members of this House addressing it on the subject of Confclciution' last winter, happened to insinuate certain re- marks in connection Avith t)ie judges of the iand, the hon. gentleman professed to feel a great deal of indignation, and asserted tliut we should not drug those high functionaries i„to the debates of Parliam<;nt. Y(.t now he takes hold «f remarks of the hon. Judge in Equity as given m the Co/ortts< in 1850, and quotes them with a view of influencing the House a"^ of the judges of the land in om' debates ; but the tme has come yfhm no jum in Wovft hcjudges recently using .such expreiiZ , the 10 owing to a Grand Jui-y in thi. co^n^-l' Hw Lordship spoke of the great future in store for Nova Scotians, of the comSf'" pofiitio.1 that Nova Scotia mast takeTinde" S^ new Dominion, and of Uic new and glori >u, em about dawning upon the Piovin^ He wished that Nova Scotians would no /'n.^ consider their pres,.nt Imi.py a d pro«neioa 3'''''°"h'r!fi '^'^'-'ow.JnrL viemZpr. judices, but that, on tin; conUiuy, they S ake advant^ige of the present favorabfe onpoi 1 ^^ !'"^u^''" 1'0«'''"" our judges ar(! Koins enceloithto cx^cupy i* If I 'were addrSi tlio same Grand Jury, 1 would say : " aZo men of the Jury, I an. most happy to meet 1 , agaiu. i ou must take a broad ami libSj v c^ oltl.i« great question which is now agitathil the country horn centre to circle ; voumuli »ote:.ncct that a nation is to be built ,pTn a day. It i« true, we..are allied to a boff that has neither legs or m-ins ; or, in otlu.r words u wi hout an ai^ny or a navy. These Ui n^ cA, not come without money t but what di&Te does It make whilst 1 am benefitted to theet }:f ,f ,5200 a year. If you lay an ^^^ Uixoi filyj.ercent. upon the masses ol The peope; 11 we tax newspapers, prinUng ,ua U=r al, and impose stamp duties, it will bo ^1 iiglit, and you must not mind it." Here 1 am reinindod ol a story told of what hapi.ened n a theatre. At the close of the perfbrmiCice a c ovvn came on the stage, with his pockets well Ued,and saidw ^Vearo very much obUgP lor youvcoun eiumce and f)atronage this even- »g; and while you have had all the fun we have had all the casli." So the larmm^ ' the hshermei. the mechanics mid laborer lia;e pay lor all the fun that chese gentlemen ^e de "::::? ^I^l..^'^^ Comedera,in. Such^^ nients ^.s those I have quoted will never go down witl, tiie class in this countiy who ha?e to eai-n a hwng by honest industry. Now, I come to consider some of the fal- acioiis remaito of the hon. member, and I i^- thaTtKwf i- ''''' ''^- He'cinds t.hat tl e Conledcratioii is a positive blessing to us It has been paymg money for us to an curaordinai-y amount, and I could not hbln «mihug when he referred to the Inman lino ol s eamei-8 Does the hon. meaiber mean X- seit that we would have had no steam com- munication with Britain without this act of on th^'r™ ''"•i ?«"tl^^«" ^vho have UuveUe.l w.r!? r M '^.^'-'"'"«-« ^"y tliat the, former vtie referable m every respect. Before con- call a huk of adamant connecting tlie province of xNovaScoUa with Great Brittun. But ho- lore the Ininaii hue wp.s created, that line wiis desti-oyed by traitcx-s that bound oui- hearts closer o the Biitiih throne. When we^nt our delegates to England, we were in hopes that that Imk would be restored to us, but how were me met? By kindness, no-but by insult. I wish to be fully understood on this point, l^.e peopic of tliis counlry feci that iJiey have been grievously wronged— tliat it had been betrayed by men in whom this people iwa placed cooiiacace, mw 1 ftjid one of such cj[piej«ion8 a, uryinthiicountT}:- the jfreat future in ol tlie comnianding must take under ths ! new Hud gloriou, the Piovince. He ' would no longer >py and prosperoiw ifJed views and pre iiiUiuy, th(!y would ^'iit fiivoiable Ofipoi. rtitiou ujion a blond I' judgfK arc; going 1 wore addressing uld say : " Gentlp. t luippy to meet 3 on oad and liberal view 1 is now agitating circle ; .vou must to be built up in a fd to a body that •, in otht;r words, is These tilings can but what dirteronce jncfitted to the ex 1 lay an additional the masses ol the lers, printing lua- ies, it will bo ai] id it." Here 1 am what linpj)ened n lie pertbrniance, a th his pockets woll ery much obliged tronage this even- id nil the fun, we the liu-mei-s, the 1 laboioi-s have to gentlemen ai'e de- tion. Such state- cd will never go uountiy who have lustry, some of the fal- uember, and I be- ss. He contends jsitive blessing to aey for us to an [ could not help he Inman lino ol liber mean to as- d no steam com- thout this act of lio have travelled tliat the, former «t. Before con- had what I niHv fing the jirovince Jrittiiii. Hut l)p- I'd, that line was Jund oar heails When we sent e were in hopes ored to us, but less, no — but by iderstood on this (UiiLry leel that 'ronged— tliat it ■hom this people had sold and lietmyed them, and taken away their civil lilwity. Thei-eupon we went an accredited lielegiition to England to represent the feelings 1)1 the people on this question, and ondeavonr to obtain a redress of their wrongs. We were told by the lion, member for Invernoss that the delegates did not discharge their duty, or, in other words, wentcontrary to our instnictinns ; but those gentlemen have fully and faitlifuUy explained their part, and as a member of tliis House I am perfectly sntlstied with their exitlaniitions. If they did not do the verv best thing, in view of the diftienlties they had to face, th"y did the best they could til promote tho intei-ests of this country. I tor one will never forget until I go down to my grave what Mr. John Bright did for the cause of Nova .Seotia so learlessly and ably, riie Under-Secretary met him and following in the track of the notorious Watkin perpe- tnited a greater fallacy. Many of the speakers in the Commons said that they knew nothing about these colonial questions, but we tnist to this gentleman who must be assumed to be better acquainted with such matters, and U' wliat he says is: true, that the Governnaent are preparuig to take such a course as will settle all the difficulty, then we are satisfied. I'he House took this view of the question and vot- ed down Mr. Briglit's resolution. If the setiti- m«nt8 propounded by Mr. Bright had been allowed to have weight, and the House had not been mislead by the represe-.taticns of the iTnder-Secretary of State for the Colonies, wh would have liad liberty to-day and would be out of Conliederation. I cannot compare tliese stiUements anytliing better tlian by isolating an anecdote. A mercantile agent arrived at an inn in the North of England, and being very hungry ordered a dinner. A quarter of lamb was set before him. So hungry was he that he polished off the whole quarter and left the bones. The kndlord, astonished at the voracious appetite, after his departure, tied up the bones, and labelled them, hanging them over the piautle-piece as a momento. Some- time the next year the same agent came to the same inn, and greing the bones labelled order- ed the same dish, and when he had finished, he carelully wrapped the bones in his hand- kerchief, and putting them in his pocket took his departure. No sooner did ihe waiter dis- cover tho disappearance of the quarter oi lamb, bjiies and all, thaji he ran to his master, saving : " Here, master, there's been a man who has beaten the other all hollow, for he has euteu meat, bones and all." So the Under- Secretary of State has beaten Mr. Watkin's all hollow, for he has swallowed Mr. Watkin's ^tjitement and sometliing more. I wish to cttU attention to some of the most extraordi- imry statements made by Mr. Adderle/, and ^how how he has eonti-adicted himself : "That dissatisfaction existed could not be disputed, and he had no donbt that the House would deeply regret witii him that it shoxdd «Tist." Immediately atlerwards he says : " He would endeavor in the first place, briellv. to shew that those allegations were fciToneous and without foundation." .So you will see that in one breath Mr. Ad- derley told the House of Commons that dis- satisfaction existed, and that the House must regret thil such was tlie fact. Wiat would b« thought of a man making such a statement and afterwards coming up and saying that it only existed in fancy and would soon be swept away; and this is actually, as you see, what Mr. Adderley stated. We may answer Mr. Adderley on imother point in tliii way : Suppose any hon. member delegates me as his agent to purchase a farm — suppme that the opposition has a farm to sell. We canvass the whole matter, but biymuse I have done so am I to be considei-ed having effected the pur- chase. Could the op|)osition say it was a bar- gain and sale, and gain his cause in a Court of law V The representatives of this country were entrusted with the constitution of the people. Is there any guarantee for Mr. Ad- derlej' or any one eko asserting that they had a right to sell it without consulting it* ownei-s at the polls. A great que&tion often asked is this : Are you loyal ? The time was when the people would have laid dow;i their lives — wo'old have shed their liiie's blood in defence of England and her honor. Can I say that to-day, and dis- charge my duty fa'-hfully to the people and the Queen ? I cann •. , conscience woidd not allow me to do su, a*. J how is this ? We be- lieve the Monarch of England, King or Queen, when ascending the throne 'kee an oah, that all their subjects will be pre .. ^d in their civil and religious rights. I ask .. .^^cer apjiealing to the British Government, and being l^ irned like dogs, what has become of otir mnl liberty and political rights. We believe that the rela- tions between the state and the sulject re- semble the relations between the paientand tho child. If one of my children comes to me as a parent and asks me to listen patiently to his prayer, will I hml him from the door and tell him tliat I never wish to see his face again ; that I have handed him over to an elder brother to be dealt with as the latter may think proper. What would be the effect of such conduct upon the child ? The child would rise in his indignation, filial affection would be destroyed, and the child would seek his own rights elsewhere. Moreover, I say this, tliat I aiiprehend unless the British Government liave their eyes opened and appreciate the position in which we are placed, — unless they will do something to soothe the wounded feel ings of the people, our people will be, like the IsraeUtes of old, — they will look across the Bay of Fundy for dehverance out of the House of Bondage. I say, as far as tho island of Cape Bre- ton is concerned, we would ratlier have annexa- tion with the United Statas than be confedera- ted with Canada, and an election might be suc- cessfullv carried on that is.sue. I am not here to conceal facta ; it would be wrong for me to do so. I am no office seeker. If tlie Cana- dian Government came to me to-morrow and offered me place or position I would drive them from me. I would not be jjereuaded from au honest discharge of my duty. Sir, this is an important season for country- men ; but I know that tliis question is of such transcendent importance that eveiy one should wilUndy saciiffee his time to give it that full considliration it requires. I am fully prepared to sustain the resolutions laid on the table by the government. I do not intend to take the lofty flights of the hon. member for Invemeai, 220 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS uJSIiHi in respect to financial mattei'«i, but, like the swaJllow, I can descend and skim the surtkce and collect the feathers, wliich will afford warmth to the rest of the generations that are to come alter me. I think I will be able to ad- duce some financial iwints of greater import- ance to tlie peoi)le of tliis country. Does tlie hon. member take in at one glance the taxes which the people have to pay. Add to the in- creased duty upon imports, the newspaper post- ajje, the county rates, the education tax, and what an enormous burthen the people have to bear. We have now to pay fiily per cent, ad- ditional upon what we eat aud drink, under this precious system of Coiifuderation. Then there is the stamp duty, which led to such un- fortunate results last centui-y. lake all fhese things into consideration, and tlieii the hon. genueman will realize oui" position. The poor people have to bear the burthen of these taxes, and they feel them eveiyday.. They feel them whenever they buy a pound of tea or take their newspaper out of the post office. I have thought over this subject since last winter, and have come to the conclusion that the Canadiau policy must be stiictly protective. I contend that if Reciprocity with the, United States. is to be of any use — whatever tlie hon, member may say to the contrary — to the lower provinces, it can never take place as long as we are con- nected with Canada, How did the Americans build up their countiy ? They commenced by a protective policy — pi'otected their manufac- tures and everythmg necessary ; and when they had attained a certain position, they could compete with the world, and were satisfied. — Now, the Canadian policy being protective, they have imposed 15 per cent, on all imports ; but the danger does not reU there. What gua- rantee have we that the duties will stop at 15 per cent? Will they not go up much higher? I will show you why these duties must be largely increased. Go down to the steamboat wharves, and you will see large numbers of emigi-ants passing from us daily, Ab the num- ber of consumers decreases, our revenues mast decrease ; and it is the policj' of Canada lo drive every man they can out of the provhice. Why is it that emigrants by hundreds are going into the United States from oui' province ? Simply because they wish to leave countries where they are highly taxed, and where trade and labor is dein-essed, aud seek homes where these burthens will be less, and the opportuni- ties for amassing wealth greater ; where wages in equal with tuxes. The best immigration office you can establish in a counti'y is mining companies. Every factory, every mine, every ship-yard, brings in and employs consumers, and additional consumers assist i ho revenues. As tlio comitry, however, becomes depopulated, your revenues nuwt decrease. I have under my Imnd the Esfiniates for 1868-9, as presented to tlie Dominion Govern- ment by Mr. Hose, Our revenues go into the funds of the Dominion, and it is presumed by the jposition that a coi-tain sum comes back to us; it is even attempted to be shown tliat we have actually received more than we ga\ e, T dpty til? hr.:;, member to put liis fuiger on a clause in the Dominion Act where, unless tlie majority of the Coumiona and Senate wish it, They need give us a single dollar back. Why were not our interests better guaided '.' Pro- bably when they have taken all the marrow out of our bones we may get our country re- stored to us. One extraordinary feature of tliese Estimates is, such items as a sum paid to the Harbour and River PoUce of Montreal. Wluit have we to do with that ? Ye(. it is a a general charge of filOO.OOO. We find again paid to pensioners, $117,525; then there ars fish ways aud 03'ster beds; salaries and contin- gencies, cuUers of timber. Does not the hon. member know that this is a chaige that would have to be provided liy the Sessions in our own Province ? Yet they are paid out of tlie general revenues of the Dominion, Here is an amount for " unforseen expenses" of ^'100,- 000; subscription to the Canadiau "Gazette" #8,000, postage of the same paper #1,200; shipping master's office at Quebec $1,200; ex- penses connected with Confederation and Im- perial legislation thereon $93,912.44; Con- federation Medal (who has seen it, is it leather or silver?) ,$2,000, I bring these items for ward for the purpose of showing how our mo- ney is taken away and expended. The leader of the opposition may laugh, but there was a poet who sajd that a man may smile and smile and still be what lie shoul4 not be; but when I see the hon, member, himself a native of this countiy, smiling and smirking at h?" mistBi tunes I blush for him, and leave him in the hands of his indignant countrymen. I shall now give my reasons for supporting the resolutions laid on the table by the Govern- ment, and I must say, canditUy, that whilst I fully (indorse them and assist in their pa.ssage to the extent of my humble ability, yet I feel tliat they are somewhat behind the teeUng of the country, I believe that tlje country would have gone much further than these i-esolutions, — that tlie people, at this moment, are prer/are(l to take such measures as will relieve them at once from the bondage and jiower of the Cana- dian Dominion. No clause pleases me so ^\ ell as the last: ^'Resolved, That the Representatives of the peopleof this Piovince, loyal to their Sov«r- eign, but confident of the justice of their cause, feel bound to use aU. [constitutional] means for tlie restoration of tlieir liberty, peace, and pros- perity as a colony of the Crown, and in their behalf invoke the sympathy and support of tht* people of the adjauent Colonies and the lovers of freedom in every part of the civilized world," If the country is ready to strike out that word "Constitutional," we cannot be blamed; but whilst I heartily assist tlie Government iu using all legitimate means to (>btain Repeal, I do so on these grounds. It has been declared in the House of Commons aud Ijords that measures were being tak(m to satisfy the people oi' this country ; therefore we must possess our souls inj])atieuce tor a month or so, to see il' the promise is fultillpcl. If it is not carried out, and we hve to meet in these legislative halls, what may be the result? I do not know, but the country will lie far ahead of us. Certain it ii that the people will never consent to remain connected with a country like Canada; let their verdict be given at the polls, and 1 am positive that iiOl a iaiijgtc Coiilcdrrate Wiu rrr tiic in^U'^ of these wall*. Our rights have been taken away from us, and the dignity of this House lowered by the Cauaiiians, iu league with trai- tors calling tJiemselvos Nova Scotians. Would ■'.! OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 221 luce of this «ietf«t«d Ac_t o L mon!^ A ^ ^^ can say, in ''O^'^^^^^^J^'uf £battie out Honest- my coustiUiency ^^^Jf^l^ mv^-: Ai^ch from HOK. MB. rtYKN'B SPEECH. ■kJ t?t vvi« said —It wa» not my inten- Hon. Mr. F^^^^' „^i,.eL the House on the tion, Mr. Speaker to a^J^«" ^f j, ig desirable pi^esU occasion, because i.te^^' ^^^^ ^3, [hat the busmess "^Jj^'.^ble, and more brought to a close a. «oo" «;. ^^^ ^^^ to,„»-t- particulurly because my venvs> ^^^ U question are n..eady be ^^^ ^ But as this w, P^^Xthaa e^ u- occurred ,nd t"o«^«^^«"^ JP^['?.iSg as I do that the ia our history a"^ too^^n^^ ^^.^^^^^ ^ people ai-e 1"«^"8 ^^i.b'^rof this House, I Reaction of «very meirtber o, ^^^^^^^^^, fear, sir. that ^ 5^3 a sfujt ^ ^^^^^^^^^ . circumstances ^^S"* ^^^^^^o our present posi- au indiiference on my part to o ^p^^^^ .^ ^ ^ tiou, orperhai)9 "^f^f ^ ^*^.t. „ ,jei-suasive elo- tidelVto the P-^^vJ^^Jy ''^^^ftove been so quenceof «>« coucihators >vn .^^ ^.^^ ^^^^^ lately amongst us. B^* «ii ^^^.^^^ being the f^^^t- ^ '^/^'^ *!^fLerS which have of hostility to this ««'^*^^^f^''°t^ugto^aya9 hitherto animated n^,a^««^*^^:;^ii 8^0 ^hieh ever they were. Z^*;. ^'\"° ial Act of Union have been ^^^'^^^^^^''^XZ^ of time for bated, tliat i^voald only *>« f ;^„.e „ow prac- uie to recapitulate them, jney u -^ tically felt, ^^ tj^^^^ f 1^^^*^ fo be refeased of the P«oP^«°' „ '/latactis mon" ardent been treated by the ^"*'f ^\he UveUest indig- Parliament have '^wakened tbeuveu ^tion throughout the oountty, a .^. ^^ weakened matemlly Aose snpg^ ^ attachment ^^^.^'^^./^'other country ; and this colony ,'^"'1,J^*^„ "S feel their pre- .0 keeuly do the P^J*^,^'^ positiou tlioy ,ent d'^g^'a'i^,*^', ' d n would, in their esti- could be Pos^'^^ly placed m ^ burthen- xnation, be more l]*"" f J^"S,,*^,' unfair and une- .ome than snbnuss.o to t^e ,^^^t t,,er qual Union torced "poi t"^*^" j^^^^ ^-i^u- Consent, and in d'^^^f «PP^'Sd that such con- es. But, «ir, we have been roi ^ „, cessions would be nuido by « Go^,^^ ^.^^^^,, tbe Domimon >« ,;^ ^ aXtion for Repeal ueceptaole, and cause the ngito ^^^ ^ ^^^^ ^_^^^. to subside. 1 '"^. ,L. ,,ei-suaded that no over- take ; for I ani tuU> l ei^sua ^.^^^ (^o- turcH or ^-<"*f '""^i, ^tvou I bo accepted by verumeiit «»"lf . ^"''^^yToaHibility everyman the people ; and it ^v any P" ,^^ ^.^^^e he lu tl\e House becaino ij^mt to ^^^^^ ^^ has espoused, and P^'^Tf '^V'T' [t^ulion, so tar posed in hhn by f <^X ' fhe\rrS«»- it would Ln. it tending o alia »^.^;\ .\i„dle.l. VVe only add fuel to the »»'•'• a^['">,^>a not only by would be despised a_,>d »«'^^^^*^;:;^i,t,thinking -:ir;oX^^;^';£ntriii: •. „. thP well-meritfid reward o tical obscurity, <« the ^,^''1^ ^^ uie sacred our unfaithfulness and tieach^y^t ^^ ^^^ ^ cause we are ^W^^^^^^c, tlic Union a trial, accept tlie situation andjvo me u ^^ ^^^ I would a.sk m what Po^!**"" ^^^. .^ „„,i„ent be before the country f ^;''J\^ ^^ ^o easily im- posed on as to w-"^^*^ ''"^, ..„_ .ug laat twelve i^he cou«e -'« l^-^^^^rr tl r contrary, they months ? ^^ • ^^} ""J ,, ' V their was neither would become convinctnl that the^r 't^fessions, siurevity, t^ll'-"^- 1^'^X ."oJilortunky to aud tiiat we only ^ ^ ,'l'^ ■'" X" i" o-^'^"' "»'^^ drop quietly into the s.tuau > ^^ ^^^^.^^ ^^^^ don our agitation *» J^^Pf^i,,,^ Confederation Believing from * « h^^^'^'i'^ ,, a Canadian wus an Imperial Pf ^> "f^^^f ^j' the succe.ss ot necessity, 1 was not ?angmn^o our tii-st apP>caUon lor R^P«^^- ^^„„„ement „t the delegation as only t be f .^.e.dge- our agitftion-the entrance^ which, by repeated mid pe^ ^^^^ . ^^^. ^ must eventually.cumimte^in ^^^^^^ ^,^_ always felt thai i woidd ^e ^^l.,,thi3 union tain the people ot ^o^a ^'T ^^e force of the unless they wei-e compelWd ^^^y^^^^ fo.eibly British Goye"^"^"^!'^; the speech of Ml^ struck by that Pa«f*f . "^oSe and leai-ned Bright, quoted ^y ^, ?/;°S be says : "Your member tor Annapolis, wuei gcotian* scheme must brt^k dow^^ J^« . i^.posaible resolve they will "«fj'?:^^i;the debate in th« lor you to coei-ce t'^^"" g' „estion, the Earl lloJse of Loi-ds on tbe «ame qv^ ,^ ^^^ .^ ^ of Carnarvon used these woa ^^^^piate t a -o»-"^ ^! n'."Sin I hold that such the employment otcoeyion^ ^^^^^ ^,^^^ a word has no pla«f ;;!^^{^\^^t between thL. lary of relations that should e^ therefore, Suntxy and the colonies^ Ij^-^ ^^ ^ satislied tliat no attempt wui« .^^^^ T British, ftovernmontto coeic^ ^ this union ; an*<^ a » ^ed in ob- to complain. ^ 'll'^^ ^^ " ^'our behalf of many laining the able a^^ o<-a'=y^^^^^^^^ journals m of the leatog 'n»i f;^;'^^^^^ ^ho voted with England ; and in the mm" "^^ ^^^^nes ol ne Ml^ Bright, are ^^ Jt\<^r;i IveUmd and Scot- of the ablest men o ^.ngjvna. ,„„ft. once land. NVc >"'^y f,- Lon to beheld in Sive tl^at the elect.on-oon U. ^ ^ Kuglandwill result '" '^«^^ ^^ ,,iu be more dm- ru?liameut. ^^bj^e J '"Jf^,,^,es, and to com- posed tx> ^""?"if .,^/d rlsonable requests. ply ^^''^^^^^rir^'beenS that this ag^tauon is But,sir, ithasueeu business ot the .eriouslyintertermgjv" ^ j ot province and p«^ -*^,,t,^t i Province aua P"';^^',;:? extent it may aftect it prepax-ed to say « ^^f j''^. «ale iu saying that iu this city , but I t\'"\'^i^ughtest perceptible outside of it It has not the sug ^^ fs the abio- : J ^ on trade wriaw»>Y,'. _^ ia now 222 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS II largely interfere with our proeperity. But sup posiug it was the fact that this agitation is inter- fering with the business of the country, is th suflicient reason that alter twelve montha m should abandon the only constitutional means by which we hope, eventually, to restore this Province to her former position of freedom ? It has been truly said that agitation is the ap- prenticeship to liberty, and that a dozen years in a nation's life are less tlian as many minutes of individual dumtion; and if we are in earnes, in this struggle, if we are determined to lie free we must not only agitate, but we must be pre- pared to make some sacrifices. If we turn c ver the pages of English history, we will find that nil llie liberties Kiiglishmen now enjoy, were ol)tained only by the greatest sacrifices and the most perseveruig eifoits, from Magna Chartat down to the present extended franchise. And even in our own day was not this Province convnilscd with agitation from its extremities to its centre, before we obtained Responsible Government? And sliall it be said because those who placed us in our present difficulty are now crying out that agitation for Repeal" is i-uining the Province, we will quietly part with the free Constitution we have hitherto enjoyed, without at least mak- ing a manly and determinad effort to preserve it ? I trust not. The more I have considered and reflected on our position, I must confess the more my hopes grow stronger in our ulti- mate success, and that we should not desjiair or give way to gloomy api^rehensions. How much brighter are our prospects in this stuiggle to-day than was that of the Catholics of Ireland, when at their fii-st meeting, organ- ized by tlie great O'Connell in the metropolis of that country, he could not muster a dozen — did he give way to despondency and despair V — no, but he pei'severed until that small num- Iwr swelled to millions, and with the aid of h.,a giant intellect he wrung from an unwilling Parliament the rights and privileges of tlie British Constitution for the enslaved and in- sulted Catholics of Ireland. And I beHeve that the people of this Pi-ovince wrll yet, by a vigor- ous and sUictly constitutional agitation, obtain from a British ParUament the severance of this hated and forced connection. As regards niv- self, I have but one course to ))ursue consistent with my own conWctions and the obligations I owe to those I represent.— that is, to agitate this question until I am honestly and sincerely couvinced that agitation is useless ; and should that time arrive, and those who elected me are not of the same opinion, then I will resign tiic 1 rust I hold into the hands of those from whom I received it, rather than violate tlfe solemn pledges I have made, and betray the confidence reposed in me. MK. MOKUISON'S .SPEECH. Mr. MoRiusoN : — In rising to address liip House ->n the subject undoi- discussion, I must expresf my regret that I am not possessed of an abi' .ly commensurate with the importance of th enquiry. But I feel that being here and having a voice, — if I were not to raise that voice at such u. erlais in our historj-, the very stones would cry out in judgment against nu-. The hon. member lor Inverness has told us that I have spoken here so loudly that my voice might have been heaid across" the .^tlan tic. I regi'et that it was not heard theite, — that it did not awake that slumbering ministry in England, but it seems that it has not done so, and here I am again to try its strength. Though my voice may not reach the other side of the Atlantic, I trust it will ring through the length and breadth ot Is'ova Scotia, and though its tones may not be as charming as those of the member for Inverness, although I nmy not be able to speak in such romided periods as he, and though I may s})eak in a much louder tone, it is because nature gifted me Avith a stronger lung, for he has a better will to speak loud than I. Before I come to the question at issue between the people of Nova Hcotia ai- 1 Canada, let uio turn for a few moments to tiie speech of the hon. member for Inverness. He told us that we had got an answer from the highest authority, and that that answer tells us that the act is constitutional, and must l)e obeyed. I have looked carefully at the des- patch, but can find no such language in it. Now let us look at the facts. The act of union was brought upon us by the rump of a Parlia- ment, and by a miuistrj' thp*, had alreadv been condemned throughout the lengtii and breadth of the land. And we have got our answer Iroin whom ? From the rump of a ministry in Kiigland, already condemned by the voice of the people. We liave no right to despair, — 1 for one am not content to submit until the answer comes from the people of England t lieuiselves. After an election has taken place, my impression is that we will have a dillerent reply, — if we do not it will be time to take a different coui-se from tho one which we arc purauing. I deny that there is such an as- sertion in the despatch of the Duke of Buck- ingham us that the act is constitutional. What the Duke says is this : " i am advised that 'he Act of Confederatien was duly and lawitily passed by the Imperial Government." He does not tell us that the act is constitutional and binding, and who has ever denied what h» asserts : that the bill went through the legal forias in ils passage, but that is a very different matter from it constitutionality. What we contend is that the British Parliament has uo right to tax the i)eople of Nora Scotia while they have a Icgislatui'e of tlieir owu, and that therefore they have no right to establish an- other Pai-liament with the right to tux us, afld in Avhich we are not adequately represented. 'I'lui iJuke telLs us that in sunilar cases tliere has been no appeal to the people, but he has for- gotten that there were two api)eals to the j)eople of New Brunswick? Has he forgotten that tlio people of Prince Edward island were appealed to, and that even the Seal fisheiis of Ncwfoundiand were allowed rights which wore not allowrd to the intelligent people of Nova Scotia. Tho statements of the noble Duke shev tliat lie has a very slight acquaintancH with what is passing in iJritlsli America. But does he tell us titat we must obey the act ? Ou the contrary, he says that the Dominion go- verumeiit must come down and reconcile our people. The Duke knew we had asked for Jiepeii.l — and that we had yaid that we would I nke nothing short of it — tht^vs-fi-.v-, thr- Dr.kft has virtually said to the Canadians that they must go the length of consenting to a Re- ]ieul of the Act, when he says they must reconcile us. He told us also iu a triumpiiant OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY 223 tone that there was not a man in Eng- and hat could be found to present onx nSitious Was he pn.ssing » ooinphment on S men ofEngland when he made that stat^- men"-^ Has it come to this that no man m Sand has the moral courage to pi-esent a Sftk-npravingfor a redress of om- gnevan- S" If any English statesman had been 1 v ^Tninato the a^ertio. they wouW not have Ihanked him for the statement which, as .t h«s tiu'ned out, is not slvictly tiiic. Mr BlInchakd -.-What I said was that r.o man could be found to advocate repeal. ""MomusoN continued : 1]}^ ^on^^^ her makes his btatement very httle better ny Stwrectirn. In an exulting tone he de- c^.^ thai no man could 1^ Ibund tosUmdup im- the rights of his native country, ihe pco pie S^s' fva Scotia arc laboring ""der a gr.ev^ ons wrong lu.d it is sad to see any '«an b?™ ^d brought up within the Province exu t that To one could be found in ^^f^^J;^ fellow-com.trymen m th.s s ruggl . ]> h;^t«7J thchon. member may have thought ol the ton deration Act at first, when he _^e^f ^hat the vast maioritv of the people are gre:itly oppos iTt^iho Aiould bow to the opnuons ot that maimSv instead of boasting that no man could hlTund nE gland that would advocate our cau^ lie fold us again that the F^ople had ^^rSht to be consulted,-that the I'it simple part of all. I cf..e not tor the ounds, shillings and pence; tor wlule the Caniudms have our constitution, they can make these just what they please. The power ust be wreitcd from the hands of the Cam- , ians or their promises are not worth the Xei- they -ii- ^vritten on; tor while they aie Sting into the tr«isury with one hand, they n«n he taking out of it with the other. Then we wTretSt" at Nova Scotia had gained ?f750,. 000 a year l)y the act of confederation. Mr Blanch ARi>.-I did not say so; I said that she had gained ^750,000 last year. Mr Morrison continued: lam wilUngtotake the coriectea suiicmfi:-. i.vm .r,- .-". "-.—-- ber-8 own lips. I am not gomg to descend into the compUcations of ilgvires ; for he kuoyf s that 224 DEBATES AKD PKOCEEDINOS aU who undewtand these e«lculatioiriB can bo box them as to make them read whicheTer way they WIS* ; but we will touch upon some ol the'leading points of tliis pait of tho question. Before coufederation we paid t«n per cent, du- ties ou most of tie goods imported into the country ; we had no stamp duties or news- paper tax, and yet we could give ifc^280,000 a year for the road and hridge ser^nce. The Cana- dians paid twenty" per cent, on their importa- tions ; thev had taxes on bills and uotre and on newsi)apei«; and the two Canadus united could only give 13,170,000 per year for the road and bridge service, ilow has it been since confederation/' The pcojile of Nova Scotia have had to ppv fifttfu per cent, on importa- tions, ajid to submit to taxes on newspapers, bills and notes of hand, luid have only been able to give ,'0 100,000 » year for the roads and bridges. Canada, on the other hand, has les- s^ed her duties by twenty-five per cent., and mstead of #170,000, has a million and a halt more for local pui-poaes than she over had beiore These are facts which cannot he denied, and yet we are told tliat we have been largely the gainei-s by confederation. But there is another featui-e that shoidd not be forgotten —the act binds us to take eighty cents per head for 400,000 people ; and supposing our popula- tion were to increase to two milium V Tho in- crease of population always brings an increase of demaJid for local purjioses ; the popidation have to be educated and provided with tr»^fc^ ling accommodation. And supposing also that our revenue should have increased to f 10,000,- 000 I ask tho hon. member to take such a peep into the future and to see that the act ol luiion would be taking millions of dollars from US that we stand in need of. So that, not only is the scheme bad now, but it is likely to be- come woi-se and worse. That is the system which the hon. member boasts ol having as- sisted in creating, and to which he even yet declares hiuiseU" attached. Let him go to the people of Nova gcotia and preach the doctnnc that he preached here, and I tell him that there is not one countv of the eighteen that would ffive him five hundred votes. Havmg gone through my notes of tho hon. gontlemaii's speech, I will now turn to the despatch of the Duke of Buckingham. We had three answers from England to our address : in the fii-st plaxje, we had the despatch of the Duke of Bucking- ham ; then we had the answer of Mr. Adder- ley ; and in the third place, we had the con- ciliatory mission from Cnnuda. If the British people or ministiy, or tlie Canadian ministry or people, expeot us to bi^ satisfied with these Hnswei-s, they must expect that, we are more or less than men. The people of Nova Scotia are OS truly loyal and as truly alive to their consti- tutional rights ; as truly alive to a sense of inslice, and love as dearly the institutions of their native land, as the proudest duke or earl, knight or lord that stands behmd the British throne. We know our rights ; and knowing them, we dare demand them ; and demanding them, we will be content with notlung eUe. J n'lUBt characterise the despatch of the Duke of Buckingham as a most siiigulai d(»cument. It is filled from centre to circumference with Tupperisms, and is composed of mystifications, illogical reasonings, and misstfttements. It is jiuBt ft r«flex ol the sentimentB which went U-om the friends of union on this side of the water. The Duke tells us that he hopes that a different view of this matter will be taken by the Nova Scotia people after a proj^er examination of the subject. I defy any man to tell precisely the meaning of that part of the despatch, but ha tells us at any rate that an examination will be made. Have we had any ? Did the House of Commons consent to our having any ? No sir, the whole power of the British ministry was brought to bear to prevent an examination of the question,— they would not submit to the enquiry whether we had any wrongs or not. They were afiiiid of examination, and there- fore brought their whole weight to bear against it. The Duke goes on to say that Nova Scotia was the fii-st to move in the pro- ject of Confederation. I deny this most em- ■pkaticallv. The project was never before m until 1866. To shew this let me go briefly into a history of the question. In 1854, it is true, Mr. Johnston moved a resolution relative to R Union (not a Confederation) of the Colo- nies. He made a lengthy speech on that occa- sion, and was followed on the next day by Mr. Howe, who took a very different view from the mover, and carried the House with him to a large extent. On the third day Mr. Yoimg. now Chief Justice, followed with a speech in which he difliered from both the others, not one of the three agreed, and then it was that the present Attorney Oeneral delivered his speech, in which he likewise differed from those who preceded him, and made fuu of them aU. That resolution of 1854 was adjourned from day to day for ten days, and all the eloquence of those who had spoken would not induce a single man to continue tho debate. What then be- came of it ? Let me tell the House that it may reach the ears of the people and the Duke of Buckingham. It was voted down in this House, and was not to have been taken up again. But by some manoeuvre Mr. Johnston got it on the floora again, and then its consider- ation was adjou med to 1855. In '55 the magnates of the day had to go down to tlie people for a new lease of power, and no man had the moral cour- age to debate the question in 1855. Not one diired to raise his voice in favor of a Union of -^he Colonies, and thus that resolution died a . ..-nral death. There is the true history of that resolution, and I ask any gentleman who desires to be correctly infonned, to trace it for himself. The Duke of Buckingham says that, the subject was again taken up in 1858. How ? By a Minute if the Council that Mr. Johnston lod, and that gentleman associated Mr. A. G. Arehibald with him in a delegation by which the matter was discussed by tho Colonial Min- ister. The delegates came back, and in their rf a Union of )lution died a •ue history of intleman who to trace it for lam say.s that I 1858. How ? Mr. Johnston ited Mr. A. G. ition by which Colonial Min- i, and in their following Ian- ion wo learnt her the Union ices might not nvonienco and Union of the ;hly beneficiul, ir j)08ition and !i;ni1inr. i-.i' the de this inipor- cmed to be nil Governinoiit, wturo nor the poople of Nova Scotia had given an '^^PicKJ^n of opinion on the .ubjeet, and ^l^^" Y^. ^""^X Huthoritv to answer the enquiry o the Colo- nial Se<^i<^1arv whether the people of Nova Scotia d.'sired the change.-' . That was the action taken in 18o8. 1 He nolt v4ar the election came on, --\Mr. Johu^ pton dare not revive the subject. In 1861 a Sution is said to have ''.-<"" ""^^J^^^ naascd but not a man dare debate it. 1 ^airt CtSa y member ro«o to discuss it I wonld onrofe Tt and turn him ov.t of court. It passed rSnt absent, without a voice being raised in i. tvov. The leader of the govcrnmen Sited that he wanted to put the question at •c^ He discxKssed it in Canada, and came b-fck and infomiod us that its consideration was prematme, that nothing could be done un- tir he railroad was built and ^omnacrcial re a- nnr<'«fiblished. That was the history ofjhe n estioh down o 1864, and notwithstanding ?^t the Duke of Buckingham A..c\.r..ihnt NovaScotia was the first to move m favor ol "^ T^fhonr for adjournment having arrived, the debate was adjourned. The House adjourned. WEDNESDAY, Aug. 26, 1868. M^oruins Sessloix. m ttee apiiointcd last winter to investigate the "pcndiUireaand ovcr-expendiUires on roads in Victoria County. ,, Hon. Prov. Skc. laid on the table the Kc- nort (>f tlu-. Superintendent of Education. ■^ Mr KrvK presented a petition trom Wine HarboX- aid for a road, and urged the ayor- aWe considemti<.n of the prayer of the petition Dr MURRAY said that there were special cai^s\v^iere special grants .honld be given; lor ii^tanee! to filcilitatlc-ommunicat.on with gold ^^''Sn. PROV. SEC. said that at t**^- P^^f "* "'J^ of the prcsenuition of petitions it would be dii- ficnlt to find all the money required. Mr. D^"»RTBAY pre^sented a P^ti ^on from thP inhabitants of the west side of St. Maiga 2rs Bay,tking for relief from the sectional " The Ho^e then went into Committee and ^°tai;i^!^3S%^^,X2'"" ^^sr;=tSffiS"^^Sish Templai-s, Ilorton. /i„„„f„ -romiier- To incoiporate the Hants County Itnipei ''"ToKm.tethe Crown Coal. Brick and 'Clii^S the Steward Gold Mining ^' ToStTomte the North St. Lawrence and ^'SiS^lSI^^l'SffiaOold Mining "•l^rSrpornte the Victoria Co.1 Mining "Z?Srpo"Uethe Strawberry Hill Mining Company. 29 To incoiT'oratc the ChiCRgo Gold Mining '" 'Z"(^mmittee then adjounied. The BrU to amend the Act incorporating the BlocK House Mining Company wtus read a second timrarter w-hich the Hoase adjourncdto three '^' Afternoon Session. The adjourned debatfi was resumed. Mr MGkrisc.n continued : When the Houw adjom-ned last evening I ^"t ''!^°}|^ *° ,'^^^ that the Duke of Buckingham had m his pos^ session the evidence that the contents of h» Salch were incorrect. That evidence con- ,^L\ of two letters from two Canatoi genUo- men who had some diftercnce with the Colo^ nialofhce as to the position m ^ "ch theii ames had been placed on the roU o' tUkd gMitlomen. With tlie permission of the House 1 will read an extnict from those letters to mm e what I have siud. The ii«t is a letter Vom Mr. Caitier to Lord Monck asking him toTay his complaint before the Duke of Buek^ ingham, and is dated 2nd July, 1867. He "^-My Lord,-l beg that you wiU be kind enoutrh to allow me to express to your txcel- lenej^my most sincere feeUngs. of gratitude for the honor so graciously conferred on me by Her Ssty, in the selection of myself as one of the Companions of the Bath, m c9nnection wiiitheFe'dei-al Union of «- .^f ^^^J g.^^^ American Provmces, now formmg the Domi nionor Canada, and the expression of my grateful thanks." Here he was claiming that he had received thetYtfoof Companion of the Bath m eonso- luence of the part he had taken i^n promoting , ^^.f^riovnt^nn. Then he eoes on to say : ^„ Confederation. " Then he goes on to say : ^ " The Government of August, 1858, of which I had the honor of being the Pi-emier, and which lasted nearly four yeai-s, adoi>^ed, amongst other things as their pnncipal poh^, the measure of the Confederation of t Bnt- ish North American Provinces. In t. all oi 1858, the hon. Mr. Gait, and the hon. Mr. HoHs my then coUeagues, and myself, have Hd the honor of gohig to EngUmd t. press umongst other matters before the Imperial Government, the favoraVAe eonsidei-atioii of the question of Confederation. I have never ceased to advocate and to urge the necessity of the Fedeml Union of the British Pi-oMiices with the view of making them stronger, ad Ttlie same time with the view of bniding them more closely to the monarchical rule of Fnsland. I have had more than »n.v public Sto contend in allaying tluj sensibdities of a large class of Her Majestj^s subjects i» Lowei Canada in reference to the ciuestion ol Con- SraHon in fact I J-P-^rdized on that quc«^ lion my political position, and m Canada as S Isi England,' I cWd "Ot spare IJo^and trouble to bring the scheme of Confederation '^TrCl"alS"o observe to your Exeellency thatSnpplnuding to the honor eonfen-ed m my tw<, .Jteemod colh ngnes, the H-'"- \^^- Howland and the Hon. Mr. Macfv uud Lower CRnnda culminated in sneii repeated failures to form an enduring administration, that some remedy had to lie sought. By the suggestion and agency of two Members of our Parliament, Mr. Alexander Morris and Mr, John H. Pope, negotiations were opened with Mr. George Brown, the leader of the Upper Canada literal paity, and at conferences held by that gentleman with Sir John A. Mac- donald, Mr. Cartier and myself, a coalition was formed on the basis of Confederation." The noble Duke had all this information in his possession when he wrote the statement that Nova Scotia had been the first to move in the project, he had been told that the Cana- dian Government had been formed on the basis of the Union, and that those two gentlemen claimed their titles as the originatoi-s of tlie Scheme. I think I have already read enough to turn the Duke out of Court on that point, but there is another point which is mther suggestive. Where is the Confederation medal that cost two or three thousand dollars. If Nova Sco- tia was the firet to move in it why did they not come here ? They have gone to Canada where all the good things go. The Duke then goes on to say : " As soon as that Scheme was unanimotislv adopted by the Delegates from the several Provinces, the Secretary of State remarked that the project should bo sulimitted to the several IjOgLslatures." Was that scheme submitted to this Legisla- ture ? Never, although the government re- fen-ed to it in ten several paragraphs of the Governor's speech no action was t4iken to car- ry it forward, but on the conti-ary a resolution was moved and carried witliout a dissenting voice, that the scheme for the union of the Ma- ritime Pi'ovinces should he taken uji agidn and the Premier declared the Quebec scheme so impracticable that it must be abatidoned. 1 hat was passed in 1865. The Duke says; " It does so happen, how- ever, that atler the present measure had been introduced into the Imperial Parliament, and its teiTOS made public, it was cordially a(ip rov- ed of by both Houses of tlin Legislature, in their Addresses to the Governor iit the open- ing of the session in 1867." What does all this amount to ? How did the members of this Assembly know what aliape that bill would be in when it came out of the House of Com- mons ? They only shewed a reckless desire to go for the bill whatever it might be and ex- posed their own ignorance in the matter. The Duke's reference to this action was a poor compliment to those who were concerned in it. The Duke goes on to say : " The Provincial Governments and Legisln- tures in the present case, after the tf ns had been substantially settled, with the knowledge and approval of all, looked to the Imperial Parliament to accomplish their unioii. This has been done exactly in tlic mnnner request- ed. The neighboring Province of New Bruns- wick liad entered into the union in reliance nt having with '"► the sister Province of Nova Scotia; anr' .st obligations, political and com- mercial, hiive been already contracted on the laitli of a measure so long discussed and .so ko- emnly adopted." Now it will 1)0 remomborod that the eleo? tinns were nearly over in New Brunswick be- Jbrc the rr-solulion passed in Nova Hmtia, nnf! therefore New Bnmswick accepted the scheme without reference to any action of oui-s, — but Avhat was our Icgislftturo led to believe when it OP THE HOUSE OP AS3EMB1Y. 227 ^; kund and Newfouudbnd v, e>H. to ^ ^^^ .^ l„nd ^crc not "'« '^^«'-\- ,^ ^'^ -^hc arguiucit. ihorelbre in >hut bra ch ol th^f » ^i^. The Duke -^^'-'^^JH^tt and iSates that cjuntry to remain qu^f ' "'^ ' j reconcilo the Canadians '""«^ f„^^f S^nd and hand* Ins premises, and the judge tel^ j^ «> S ;,e'cri.ni:mlboxton.M^^^^^^ «- -f,,,,! what would ne tlunk > V\ ner^ ^.^ Ity of the -«" -^^/^^.'f S,^"^? En^^^^^ and I S^-=^^£r;S^tmthe and I inuBt say of.this l^kcmse tbau - a le^ ,,ash ot. 'f-PJV^^^Britls^GoxSnmint, has mouth-pieee "ff^^^f^^h piece of Tupper, also made himself the »>«^«" I ^,^^1 if a C. B., of Nova Sco'ua. «% 7,'^,ljel^tion it ""S^' f T W^x tSin^ against the crime ot Scotia had hau a icliuio "b nurtv crv 'uurder it would have been made a P^^^^^^ >n 1863, and because ^J ^^^f ^^^V Ti^at is the v^c wore all in tavor ot the cru^e i doctrine of a ^^l^^^^^'.^'f^Lv which pectsthe people to P^^^" " ^he hon. mem- laa never before ^h"°- ^"^^to W^ve that the ber for Inverness e^pe^-t^Jis to ^ ^ English P-PV;«-,'^°ie old that 4 were Tuppensms. 1 hen we ai« ^ came ,J taken by -"i-pn-^^- Ji^^^^noi-s speech, in ^'k'1 The subiS ot^Confederation wa^.not wlucl the ^"bJ^''^ \^^,eme was not revived mentioned, and the *="^"' ^f the reso- until a few days bf or« the P W o ^^ lution. The people, tboietore, »iaa " get up a remonstrance a^ nst 't says that faken' by HmTrise- M;^^^f; f ^ ^1866 a nothhig was done "^l^"^ J ^^ heme had l>ee« tl>e conlerence "^^^,«'^^^''^ri„g confederation unanimously P'»«^«'i.„^^?, "t,^ i863 out of a with Canada impracticable. l»^,f "^^^^^^.t^-o House of fifty -iive °j;;X';ch'eme, and 6ne of could be got^o ««W^?y*^ ^^Se'rft*^- ayear themwasinthechau^butmlSM^^^^^^ ^^ ^ of achem.Mg, ./h^gj^HS-f notice? and car- leriolutiou, with a lew "aj' ' '^^ks Tt VOO a year, the -ntii was mad« ««m-^iai-%' of State with a salary ot ig.5000, tne Snis'^\.ade Sti^^n^^^^^^^^^^^^^ HaUfox at a salary ot £500, tne ♦''!7„' „uvh their promise, and he is so pw ^^^^^^^ totheAvuids rhere wa P ^^^^^ ^^. eight. W hat oecau. seuatorahipa, „, th«t the rt •'S^"'„„'?c™oS.edthem '■"M,"A?d™ley mSttVe. to lecture » fo. not does this prove r- •'.'^^^""""'^^er of the Do- John A. McDonald si^sasjreimerot^^^^^ minion, although he had lt«stnan votes in hi..d.strict; ^^^McGee ha ^ ^^^ over one-tlnrd ; Mr. y^""' \..,^l, tlie whole votes over one-third; and so Nvmi Canadian P'^^'l^^^^f S;;^,!Sfe8 hi tlieii- district, having a majonty «* ^f^.^^^^^ t^at measuras ^MfeenSe^"^' concUiarNot Scotia, and tive per cent, m Canada, and ^ ^ ^ modes of ty per cent. Buyr^^ ^^. g. m. McDonald conciUatmg »?• . J;^^'w the House of Corn- moved a resolution askmg xi . i,itothe mons to go if « committ. . to exan^ ^^^ ^^^ .^ complaints ot ^o^''. ^^^^ a„d out of 147 His motion >va3 vote'^ only tin ec could be in- members trom ^.^f '''^^' "eoresentativevH. The duced to vote ^^J^ J^^J'^'as the sending of next attempt at conuhauoiiw ^ ^^ Charles Tapper, C^B^,^to^^^> delegates ; and ;;;:^=-gove^^^^^^^^ Ke'lHTsthlnrto oSose them. DidtHe / \ 228 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINO'i Canndlans, In ehoo'^ing as their Agent the man most uiiivewally conduuiuwl and hated in Nova Scotia, except Adauib G. Archibald and Jona- than McCully, show a desire to conciliate our IHsopJe '! I think not. Anothei' conciiiatoi-y uiovo wrtu tlic re- I'lWJil to nuikc the anbsiily of eiyhty cenlH a head a jirelbien a1 claim on the revenue:* of the Uoniiiiiou. They thought they might want to borrow money to deepen the" canaL and build i-ailroads. uad if the pittance to Xo\'a Scotia was made preferential, they would be hindered in Ijorrowing. 'J'here is iiotl;ing to this day that enables us to eliiim tlie eighty ceuta a head. Another conciliatory move was the list of precedence, by which the very man who sold his country, because he hns a sent in the Senate, takes precedence of the Prime Min- ister of Xova Scotia when they go to govern- ment house. Still another attempt was tlint contained in the despatch tabled a day or two ago, in which we are plaujly told that we must not expect to get our bills sanctioned as often and as easily as when they were sent lor the sanction of Queen Victoria. Tlie next step will be to inform us that we will save much useless legislation by first sending our liills for the inspection of Sir John A. MacDonald, Just as un English act required that bills should be re- viewed and approved before their inU-oduction in the Iiish Parliament. When the despatch was read I could not help thinldng of the Dutchman who first cautioned his boy that he would bo thrashed ii' lie did not behave well while his .father was from home, and then came to the conclusion that it would be better tjo administer the thrashing fii-st. So the Ca- nadian Premier thinks il well to give us a sug- gestive caution before we have sent any bills to him at, all. But if he claims tlie right tit'ter urtjument — tniu nie p"i \ui,„„uii Uieu;op.mons attlmt txm ^^.^^^^ ^^^^^ unuda ol the ^*"'^^",^V\,,,.,.f theii- statemeuLs und therefore m_ slu^uM f -t rt^^-J ^^^^ ^^^^^ Uovennueuo il not^v ^^^.t^.^^^^^^,, i,„, may say "f^/",,".!,,. .ye asked, but ean concerned .^'"'^V "^'V^^^ in the past, sutelaiitiated then '^'^^*^;;;",^fl, :„ ^leir pre- ..d we -|--V"D.ff ^« -onU.s ptvvLs «c'nt proi)hecie3. V'"' ^ ,.„. last wc found to the elections ot ^^'P^^'^_^^ S tiuic has various prophecies, '^l.;;;;'' i,,^;' j, accurate, proved tl--4V;'e Wd ui:Se the Caua- It was Hiud that we ^\V ,,".„.• ,„ but the iusue d:.m tariff under ^«"f^«'„'^^^;''^C Manulae- has proved that ftutemeut la^e M^^^^^ tares, again, ^^''^tfthaltlU Province cannot '^S^^ ^.l^l^Zt't-anadu because tl.ut •^"'^"^^■^XrXgr^'lgaiS Populatiom rCde^wL'toTncreui. and we were to uauSy dec^aased, and we have not yet obmn. '■'A.'n^£ decb,red through the length andlZd h olNova Scotia thai ^^o ,^";;-<;;- ^ ::::,i.unont would not uUen.pt t^' "^''^Jl-^^J ,ai act olsuch injurioiw tendency as Uie atamp Act, buttiu>e hai proved that, hke every oth«r su' cment advui>eed twelve ™o"l^« ««"' ^'',^, auriu" the luat two yeai's. Auotmi urgii eit-one that bore some appearance o PU;;S- was that since. tl.J^P,-a^. Lower Canadians were ce.mm to b f^^i^ variance, Xova Scot.a would 1^« ^^l^*"^*^^^^; the baUxnce of power, and theieby acwaiiy control the adn\inI-tration ol \^^^^J^^^, ■I'l.iii araumcnt v.-as advanced whenever w« Srted^C the snmll Provinces must be 'rS and governed by the ^^J^^ Canadian Parliament. ^^^"^ J'^XS^Z^'^or- what we asserted to Imye been P^tcctlj co ..,.f.t iind I need only iHiler the Uousi. to um ;■ el'thSil^^^n the t^vilf was under co.«.d^^ »^,i.i and our interests were at staac, uia l^nki combined to i"il-t a gr«J mj,.y upon our trade and commerce, and tbe ain^osj u animous votes of Xova Scotians and 2,ew ruaswickexBeourbined had no "vfl^^--- J ..i^lU^c^aud^erdarge th. ^^^^^^S^. iSary' and tl^a t^le Hou^e weU appreciate, h^vahie that sh.>uld be put on any state.n«nU numathi' from the Confederate i>art,y in thi Prov nee But there is one .matter 1j>at StSi^sir\.^^wMH i-dX^o^^^t^e^l „p.,l Well the result has proved tlie very :vet.i:-c have argued the P-»c.ples w^^ , we have been sent here to sustam, by eveiy - aeans in our power, and h^^e ^"^dv^^i^ ^'^^ oauae of the people's rights. 01 ^JU^eit i-s nOT aim.-ult to uudeistand the reason why these nd absurdity of the arguments ol our ^W- ::;;:r:.sir^fsran:ris;^^ SbreLIlS^:ri:nglatd,an .rxnect So tor as that argumcm i= cyn- Smedte have gained our point, tor now the 230 DEBATES AND PROOEEDINOa :,i CoiiJedei'ato paily and jiress nfknowlfdge that vre have liei-ii wronged, mid that they are ready to rectify tli»s(! eviln, and,coinpronii.se. If tlirre were no wrongs, why slionld there he any coin))r<)inise or eoneesMions necessary? By thedelegrtlioii (<> Knglmid jiresentiiig our case fah-ly, we have foret-d Ihetn to concede tlml wo have wrongs, which ouj^ht U>hi>. conciliated by their redreRS. Twelve montlis, in short, have brought about u change in our favor Ijoth havn and in England, and wh Nlionld feel on- couitiged witli respect to the future. If we rontinue to exhibit ihe same apivii of deter- taination for twehe months raoi-e, I have no doubt that our cause will make great stridcH, and w(i will obtain what we ask, as our right. It is true we have In-en denied to a certain ex- tent wliat we asked from England. \Ve were bonnd, however, to make this ai)p«>al witli a legarfl to our honor and self respect. "We have thrown upon the British Government the riisponsibilitj' of m\'estigating our wi-ongs, and they hav<;, in their turn, devolved it upon tlie Canadian PJxecutive. They say tliat they will use their iuHuenee with the Canadian Govern- ment to have our wrongs rectitk'd. As far as the mission of the Canadians to this Province is concerned, it show.s clearly that they have been forced to make a show of conciliation. Now, if they had been desirous of acting fairly and lionestly they would have conic boldly for- ward, made their propositions, and expressed a desii'o to put the que.stion before the peO)>le and to decide upon their votes. That is the shape in wliich it ought to have been plac(>d. It is true, in order to conciliate us, tliey have lowered the taritt'from what they passed at the first session ; they have given considerable sums for genenil pui-poses, and performed otlier act«, in order to soften down the feelings of the people. All this 13 done to cajole us to accept Conlederation, but it must be remem- bered that what they have done may be un- done at any moment they please. The im- pression which prevails in my mind is that there is too large a power centralized in the Dominion Goven^ment, and Ave must be al- ways powerless on that account especially. I shall not weary the House with any lengthy observaticns respecting the feelings of the peo- ple. Everybody knows that they are as deter- mined as they were twelve months ago ; every one of them is rasolved on having the restoni- tion of their rights as they were enjoyed piv- vious to the passage of the 'Jonfedemtion Act. 'I'hey see clearly and fully that no ooinpromLse can be made which will restore to them their former rights, and therefore they will be satis- hed with nothing else but repeal. Our duty at the present time is clear and siin}>le. It is not so much to argue this question over and over again, as, by strong and determined action on our part to S'liow our resolution and chiternii) tion to be frise ; that we liave not changed ^ jot or tittle in our opinions. We have as' the British government for repeal, and it has been refused ; but we should wait patiently un- til the new elections have taken place in P^ng- land, and then go to the new government, which will probably be formed ; tlieu I feel sure we will succeed. If refused again, what must we do ? It is our duty still to prosecute this matter — to say to the British government: If you think coiifederatiou is necessary for our .^v»Tt» Kjy.\jiiu. la ijujn:ci ijeii ; uiui 11 llie po< \\ ill do it, they can eftectually deteat the pi of the Canadians, and destroy the harmoni defence— which is apparently tJie leading idea on the other side of tiie water— then wo are willing to pass u resolution, clearly showing that we will assume our own defence, but will not l)e tjixcd to laiijd fortifications and defend CaniKla ; iind if the Uriti.~h goveniinent urc of opinion (hat they iire expending too much nioiK^y here and (Iniiniiig the British ti-easury by keeping troops among i;,s, then we say- Withdraw them ; we do not requirp their sei- vices. More than that, we are willing to con- tribute of our revenues, and our men will volunteer to the defence of the surrounding colonies, should they be attacked, provided we think it nece.s.sary. 'They may deditre tliis Do minion a nculriil power and withdraw their troops ; and if they do not, u|)on them ivsts the responsibility of any bloodshed ihat may re- sult from such a couiNe. We must discharge our duty faithfully and fairly, witli a view of obtaining our release and a restoration of our rights. If the British gov<>rnment continue to refuse, still we ai-e not jiowerlcss — we have the means within ourselves to resist ; the people will form tmde leagues, buy nothing Cana- dian, support native manufactures, or band to- gether for smuggling. We have the means of defeating the oi)eration of this act, so far as -^'ovu Scotia LS coiu^erned ; and if the people plans rmonious action of tlieir government. The people ol this province nmst have their rights restored to them, and will prosecute theiv designs to the bitter end, until they succeed. MK. DKSBUISAY'S SPEECH. Mr. Desbrisay said : Mr. Siieaker—In the early part of the session, previous to the ad- journment of the House, I entered at some length into the discussion which took place upon the question of Confederation, a question which was then, and still is, the all engrossmg topic of the time. I have seen notliing since to change, but very much to confimi, and strengthen the opinions which I then express- ed, as to the injustice to which we had been subjected. I entertained a confident hope that justice would be done to Nova Scotia by the British Govermnent and Parliament ; but, sir, I regi-et to say, that a Government that could send a General, suiTounded with all the "pomp and circumsuince of war," to conquer in the Ikstnesses of Abyssinia, a savage king, because hi> held in cajitivity two or three British sub- jects, refustid a moment's enquiry into the wrongs of the inhabi; ints of one of the finest countries under the sun, ii people noted al- ways for the fealty they had borne to the Bri- tish CJrown. I thought that the large measure of injustice which had been dealt out to Nova Scotia, would have sulHced, without this last "clditional wrong. The more the subject is ex- •iinined, the more apparent becomes the gross iitrage that was perpetrated upon this people. It was one of the most disgraceful acts of the present century. Nova Scotia was to be made tributary to Canada. It could not be done openly, and therefore dishonorable means v\ere resorted to. Confederation has been often likened to a marriage, but the only mar- riage to which, in my opinion, it bears the slightest resemblance, is that described by Shakespeare, when, iu reply to the peitiuent OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY 231 u\v»,fit Im wedlock fnr(«fl," h<^ ""1^'* '* wrong. overHhajlow « e^* O "t^^. j.^,^.^ «,, i^ novcrsy, i^s ^"''L. whilo their U'How colo- Inverness naid that »''« ,1^,*;^ ^k^ , ^^^^^^ only legitiumte «-P""" i;;Xe Xo lo bo Then, .ir a '^'^^ in.hl.c i tn uo ^^^^^ corvupt themselves, "' ^\^;' . •" ^' ^^ het ^ncu ,,,tr.^ the .g'«i;r iand people. thr.H< and '""\, '""\'^t ,nonstrous doctrine* Thi^i is one ol th« "'^\'" , i^iu,^, on eaUh. ever propounded m '" y ^/^^^ ,^^ assorte.l -rhe hon. and learned genthiuan ul ^^^^^^^^^^ tJ,at the ^^*^r«'^«^«.{^,,^:*i^rh^ I'ccn fully *'^^'"' '"TCuhoi^ t ir«^ -ith very ba. answered, Vmt 1 \n""e"; , supporter ol graec from him, 1'^ l>av ng been ' ^ « 1 . j,,. '«^^^r;itot;tn;tKi-t interests oi' strucuons as to betn y i ^^ appointed, those m who«o ''},'^'^". V'^f„t„^,„on understand How Uttle do l^".S'^':'l t'^^^^T".; eolony, when the U-ue position ol ''f ':"y'' 1' ^.'t'^ Conledera- they a8.t;i-t that "i^' ef "'Sj^"' ^adiat^s who tion has been le^ened ^ ".' j ^.„o„gh to were here i<-^'«"''y'.T''"'lrf rather think tell them a dilUu-ent ale^ and ^ ^\^^^ j,^, that when they lett Hah -^^^ i„ how far a policy ot >^"»^ '*"^ij. „i-o„e way to Nova Scotia. 1 ""1^,'^' "^' t^' to abolish the undo a ^vrong, and that IS, to .^ exactly what we ^va"t a uu i j^^.^,^ rights and pnyilegcso^vluch^AV ^^^^. unjustly depnvodC^inadan^^^^^^^ ill--otten giuns; ■'l'^ ™"^^ ^*' cemented in the oa l-l-^^;- ^-'^^JpTe "fin reaUty no union, hearts ol the .l'P"P"r., •,,,„.• ^yhomweread m She is in the position otlimotw no history, who was obliged to bi.J^'?„X words Emperor of the ^^ch Cg'eS apply to of the historian, a^.J^^^-bie "to secure the our case, he tound ^J^'^P^^^neparated by the obedience oi those ^^^°^^ ,";.- Jrest and lau- ,„econcil^lcvith tlu« ^«""^^>4i;° .haU ^ sta,Klbyyou,nojen«Sgi^Xe^^ of hisult „pon.von,audnottven tn ^.^^^^^^^^ ^ , Mmlll.assoverjo . «ui ^^^^^ .^^^^j^^ iM'otia has received be iioy^i« ^ ^j^^„ with the largest amount otu^my .^^^^ 1 confess 1 do not ^^ow what^hs ^^ ^^^^^^^^ means We a^e "";;,^"^^J,Si. and make the settle .lowu, ace f}^^,^^\^., , ,,ply we were tK«t terms >ou ""'•/; ,,,,„,o'.e,imdil weworo not elected for any H"ch r^n'^^;! ,„,itors, and , followthe adv^e, ^^'^^,,,^^ House ,he surrender-lhe rights ot t^« P P^" y*- ij- 1780 addressed the then ntnist oi ^v j U»j, a<»i"«- nonse is the guardian ot the l,Sfcll„wl!o,.o».....v« ... ItoW^I^ and obstinately deiend.-rt- ^^ j^ released, and P'^t-C" "» , ; „,-,ip nistire. Uefore. '^h ^^^v s.^l-^rance Hn cUde- Wearetod thi^t mil sAtr j^^.j^. „,, nittt fOP/itm, i« J mockery, a mere SrwX-^rnSaidng. It is ^^^^ much like letlic^ a"\^ J- McDonald, touch- other words your ..T^^^irok at th^^t t'^'^l^ of vienttoourwil. ihcn look at in. precedence "^"^f ""^^^f „ "Budlghain, under lioned by the i^Jji^^'^ ^f^i Local Parlia- .vhicli the yPP?^^».X'L"composed, partly of 232 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS m were hHppy rihI contents, and tliey will ncvrr bow to (.'tiuHrlifin dinbitioii. Canadiiiii ofticcs Imvo been Ipft op«»n, in orrliT to stirtuce Is'ovii Scotians I'roin tlin lighl path. Not one ha-s l)een yrcsented to tlic British Parliament it wa.s rapidly ajiprouching dirisolntion, that pub- lic qucitionH of great moment had been for .some time, and were tiien cngii;^;ing alnioat un- divided atlention, and that we have good grounds, as I think, to hope for a more favor- iible irisue to another api>liiation, strengthened nsthii opinion is, l)V the increased share of puljhc attention given to our cans(! m the parent country,] have, afler the fnllest dis- cussion on ihe -julijeet, and with an earnest desire to do right, arrived at the conclusion that it would I'e criminal in the Government, or the House, to tjik(! a step, under these eir- cnmstanoes, which would lead the people into unnecessary trouble. My position with regard to the noble coun- ty I have the honor here to represent, and to the people of Xova Scotia, is tliis — If the Canadian«, though wc cainiot exiieOt them, judging from their past conduct, to be moved by any such seii'se of jiwtiee, express their wil- lingness for Repeal, they catj speedily end the diiiieulties which now beset them, but th'U'e are no other proposals they can make which I ■will, for a moment, entertain, until the people lii-fet come in, between this Honse and the Dominion (joverument, and accept, or reject, their offers, whatever they may Ijc. I believe 1 lightly estimate the views and wishi s of tlie people of the Province, when I say that they are for full, nnconditional Repeal. The inevi- tiiblc destiny of Nova vSootia is reparation from Canada. • Tho people' j: " voice i;' heard from ara to ?oa," The iont of iS'ova Soutia " uiuBt, and .-hnll bo free.'' MR. LAXUEUS' SPKIXH. ilr. 1/ANDKKS said, Mr. Speaker, if 1 be- lieved that >;ova Scotia by her own act or by the voi'-e of her people had j>!iu'ed hei'self in tiie unliappy and dejn-essed position slie now occupies unrler the Doiuinion of Canada, then I should say that we ought to submit and bear the evils which we suffer with piitienee. Biit, bi'lieving as 1 do, that we have been robbed of our constitution, cheated out of our revenues, and deprived -of tlie privileges en- joyed by our prede.eeissoi's, [ think we ought lo resist ■v'.'ith all the powers we possess. I re- member when 1 was a little boy tmd sent to school we liH'l very few trooki in the school. 1 think the whole eatalogiie wouhl not exceed five, — and in one of those books then ere s-vend very pretty pictures, nw we little folks tliought at that time ; and one of tho«e pictnn:* wiiich is now very prominent before my mind wa.s the representuiion of a loaded wagj'jon, and a little below the picture on tlic sumo piige there was a reading lesson, I think it w.ns e illed a fable, and when read was something like this: — "As a waggoner wa.s driving lii* team his waggon suvik I'l; a hole and stuck fast, the poor man immechately fell on hi^ knees and jjtuyed to Hercides tf)'take the wag- gon out of the hole again." Hercules replied, "Thou fool, whip the horses and put (by shoulder to tl>.e ■vheel, and if thou sliall call on Hercules he will help thef." Now, sir, I was in my own mind cmiparing Nova Scotia to thr? loaded waggoi. We have hud unskilful team-sters, and they Imve diiver ns in a hole; and we have stuck fast, and we Nova Scotian.s liave gone on our knees, and we have prayed to Hercules, not the ancient, but (he Herciiles of Great Britain. Now I do not know that this modem Hercules has called :s fools, but I l>rcsum(! he thinks we, ari^ I'ools, fm- he says : '• !-.tay whore yon are, N( gowl place for you. The . ■ nmnt want your revenue , siiend money up in Otta\ your Militia to tight oflF the ■^ankecs i( Ihev should come dci-j." But, sir, I do not feel willing to adopt the advice of this modern Hercules, but would prefer the advice of the ancient llerculeti. I woiild jiut my slioulder to the wlieel ; ami what I mean by that is, I would take posscssioa of all the goods and chatteb belonging to Nova Scotia. 1 would whip the horees ; and AA hat I mean by that is, I would whiji eveiy mother's son out of oflico who preler workmg for the dominion than working for Nova Sco- tia. I know it is said by some that they will bring the soldiers out, and that they will'jioiut their bayonets towards us, but I flo not belicvo that would be d>)ue ; and if they did do so, it is an old saying, " one might as well die by the sword lis the famine." 1 think of the two, I should choose the forUKT. I can see notliing but famine for Nova Scotia in her present position. I have always been loyal, and 1 should wish to be loyal still ; but I believe that loyalty and protection are twin brothere ; that tliere is a sort of connection between the Siamese twins, and that one cannot exist with- out the other. The good book informs us that faith without works is dead, being alone. So 1 think loyalty without protection is dead^ be- ing alone. If not already dead, it will soon die. I'he debate was adjourned, and the House then adjourned. Scotians, it IS a minion Govern- ey know how to they alio want Fenians and the acioss their boi- TlIURSDAT, Aug. 25. The Hcuise met at 3 o'clock. Severn! bills were read a third time and fi- nally passed. Mr. NORTIIIT introduced bills on the follow- ing subjects: — To incorporatp the Mulgrave .^iilullg Com- pany. To amend the Act referring to Pi-etty Olfen- ces, K. S. OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY 233 TO .mend Chap. 45, R. S., of Connty A«««« ""S' amend Educntion Act ^Uh ««poct U> ^%;r?i?3ctu. Htreet cxpenditm. in the R'**'"- •-*^^,ii«>«fl n. bill to incor- Mr Blanohahd introducea a u"' ^"^•■Rterson also spoke against a bill so . ' bo^Uomf" feeling. ^^ ehan.ten..e.l «SB relic ol- the dark nges- ^cS^r^on^rVint^^^^^^^^^^ •1-he human bo,ly f o"]'!, ^j^^^^r it was a can- ..er.notsumcicntU,^-blea>^^^ S'arSbe^SLd sUr or later m this country. . , .. ^ proposed to Mr. >I»»«""»Sl'?'i">Je co"me»« «»1; pawBuehanaet. lctln'^"""°^ jj moved &m»lv«™te»aef the poo^ » •tssti=»iSe£t t,, the Paris Morgue to Bhpw t^c ^^^ the bodies of the dead. ^"^^ ^^1^0^^ guffici- careful not to f^^^fjtoTts Necessity. ent cause bemg shown "» ^ ^«^ objections to bm'^anfsSWKsSion mo^l hy Mr. S-enTbr— S^^^^^ ^^^^'^y^-'- Sd with ^^o.-'lJ^fZ.r^^^ the no- Hon. Mr. '^uoor could nude tw.^^^^^.^^^^^ cesBily for such a bil' n " "^■"i^j,! Colleges. l,„.goW -fVmxlf ."S^tly able. ♦'^on'lR^rs'^C.Baid th:.t the bill was in- '30 h<'cHU.>e wc wen, not gu.ncuuuj »< _»-» "^r^ii, although he acknowledged the gr-t bcnefitp of the study of anatomy. „,.;_.(, Mr DiCKFY thought it woxdd ^ ""f^^ .♦'? "K'p'NS".ho.Bht it would b. "*"»'7 JJ biU existing in the U.-it«d State* or m j:- « ^^hL Atty Genl. said that there was not ''Ou.divi.ion Mr. Morrtooi* modoi. ™ Troop, Morrison, CopelandCampneii, x. ='S'''2KS'srs^.hM^. ,ld # jnn. Mum.,. ProTOeml Secntorj. '"fi'PKOV. S:.cv. would enqv,;- -Tht* C^ V v-i Vip had never seen them, fney S' V'tn ^tT^olossession of the Domxmon ^"S^MrBRAY did not undei'stand this spmt- in?away oTpublic documents, and hoped they .vould be i^o'jWng;^ ^^^^ ^^^^ j^ ^'^Sr tb-thehon.'l^ensurer had lull ac- Tei Jail Solents, and had been in commu- "^/.'"R^KSKrthat all such papers be. long'ed to the Province, ^^ not to the Donu- niou. 234 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS Mr. Speaker would ask permisnion to state that among the charges against his count; vma one in connection with a bridge whei-o a chip had never beoii added ; he wished to know if the money had ever been expended, but had not been able to obtain full information on the subject. Mr. Kirk had on that account asked Tthe government for certcdn information on a pre- vious day ; on looking over the papers, how- ever, he could not find the returns for the biidge in question, the clerk in the Treasurer's office could not find it^ but the money had cer- tainly been paid. Hon, Provincial Secretary said it was sti-ange tliat this should be the only paper mis- •ing. Dr. Murray would like to know why mem- bers of the House should be obliged to call upon Mr. Tims and other Dominion officials for papere that belonged to the Province. Mr. PoRDY asked the Govemment for account of advance to Cumberland, debt due to Bank of Nova Scotia, tmd also accounts and vouchers connected with Palmerston bridge. The House then went into committee, and passed a bill to incoi-porate the North Ameri- can Mining Company. Then the committee rose and the House adjourned. Friday, 28th August, 1868, • The House met at 3 o'clock. Hon. Attcrney General introduced a bill to amend chap. 171 R. S. of the administration of criminal justice, and stated that it only went to assist the Attorney General in the prosecu- tion of criminoJs in tlie city of Halifax, and docs not interfere with Queen's Counsel m any pai't of the province. Also, a bill to amend chap. 85, of the inspection and regulation of lumber, hay and ether merchandise, and enabling the Court of Sessions to fix the fee on the weighing of hay. Also, a bill Avith respect to railway damages. — Large quantities of land he stated, bid been taken for railway purposes in Pictou County, and which had to pay heavily therefore. Now the eastern counties were largely benefitted by the i-ailway, and he considered it only just that they should contribute something for the ex- penee. ITie bill accordingly provided that Pictou should pay one half, and that the re- mainder be distributed among the counties lying to the eastward. Mr. Blanchard hoped the government would make the last a government measui-e, as ho would soon raliy enough support to defeat them, Mr. White supposed that Counties of Capo Breton were left out. Hon. Atty. Gen. could not dejirive them of the pleasure of having a small share. Hon. Paov. Sec. thouglit that Princ<' Edwai-d Island should also pay. Mr. NoRTHUP would ask the House to relieve Halifax in the same way. Hon. Atty. Gkn. said he could not . he found, make P. E. Island pay her proper share without invading her. Mr. Rykrpon said that the Dominion im'ght take any ground they c)-.ose for a depot as the •hare of the city for the f icbt owing the pioTincc, Dr. Murray urged that the bill was just, in- asmuch as the County through which a railway might pass, might not be as much benefitted as the Counties indirectly interested. Mr. White would move tliat the bill be de- ferred till that day three months. Hon, Atty, Gen. hoped the House would not agree to any such innovation and departure from tlie usual couilesy. Mr. Blanchard said such a course was ex- ceedingly unusual, and he hoped it would not be persisted in, much as he might be disposed to oppose such a bill. The motion was not pixjssed, and the bill was i-cad a first time. Mr. Blanchard introduced a bill respecting cattle going at large. Mr. Young introduced a bill to annex the Township of Uniacke to West Hants. On motion of the Provincial Secrotaiy, Thurs- day next was made the last day for the recep- tions of bills. Mr. Blanchard made some expltmations with respect to a matter that hud come up on the previous day. He had the pleasure to in- form the House that the i papers, asked for by the Committee of Public Accounts had never been in the possession of the officers of the Do minion. These accounts, previous to the first of July, had never been re : i lOved from the Pro- vince Building, and had only that day been found and handed to the committee in ques- tion. Some few papei-s in connection with tlie settlements of arrears since the first of July, liad been left with Mr. Tims, by the TreasurWi but they had never been called for, although ready to be handed over at any moment. Mr. Dickie said that what the Committee particularly wanted was the accounts of Roads and Bridges. Hon. Piiov. Sec. had not had any knowledge of tMe accounts in question, and only learned sii A'C yesterday that they were in the Treasur- er's office. The tnith, was, if the accounts liad been anywhere, they had been in the hands of Mr. DeWolf. Mr. Ryerson said it was high time the House had possession of all the papera it wanted, in order to obtain accurate information respecting the public finances. It was time tliat the House adjouraed. Hon. Mr. Robertson said that all the papers connected with the Mining Office would he ready on Monday, Dr. Murray wished that all the papers and vouchers belonging to the province would be accessible to the House at any time. Mr. Blanchard said thatif any papei-s were deposited with the Dominion officers by the Government, it would only have been courteous to have sent for them. They had never l)een asked for and never refused. Mr. DeWolf might have had sonic papers in his possession whilst arnuiging the atfairs of his office, but he had never lyen a IJominion officer. Hon. Speaker had called on Mr. DeWolf for a certain pepar, but had never been able to olitain it, Mr. Blanc'iard was not there to defend Mr. DeWoll", but siiniily to make certain ex- planations, whidi ho considered called for after vhe remarks tliat hrui been made on a pi"eviou» day. Hop, raov, Sec, «p.id that it had been n«oe«- ago. OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 235 5 bill be de- ♦^^he bill was «iry in the adjustment of the accounts that ^cSffiillg and subsequently a lat«r re- •^^ 'n°Mf tS repTr^L'd from the Commit. .efouL^wIrnd^eCa bill amending the !St^Srporato the Windsor and Aiinapol.. ^rKiDSTON asked the Government for day respecting the Registrar of Piobate m vie 'ToS.°Sv.S.c.hadnot oeen able to find '"llr'SSf/SSrilegist-r had pro- fe^'iXv^'re^ed l^i| o^^^y ^Tnow rr^i^t\iroS?'.-in^--- **"? messa-e was received from the Legisla- tivt CrncU stating that tl«y ^f ^.^ g^o^a bill, incorpoiutiog the W«st Lake, Scotia^ Phipaffo and Montreal Mmmg Co 9. . aiso, i" then resumed. RKMXEKS OF MR. TOUNG. Mr. YOUNG said : I intend to say very^few they are tired of us, aiid that we axe onlya wn of^>ense to them, and sorely we on^l Vnr 91 ^nU ^1^^.^ head in Nova Scotia. As if specia v» 1 may say that, perhaps, when we f^-^^ the next delegation '* ^'"^.^^Xr Suppose from the mother ^"""trya togethe^hing tVom we had a larger umon-oe^tretcmn^ the Hudson's Bay t« the Gulf «J f ^„^j;°;tlie- would not suit me very ^^^."' f^"^' "^S a less, there are a great many 'iS^HlLly -icheme. 1 must speflK my '»^."" „„;-t Xn „ 1 «U.l P»fer ke.pi»il I!f£* CijeL Afr nrrKEY said : I beg leave, Mr. Speaker, sent time he seen« ^spo^^^ '°iCpTe««d times hotter than the pan. /;^""", x «^ t^^f*'nSos?"S"io'^artThis's?t.* Ct^Jrn."" TrieXloyable conation; resolutions; they ^^^g^U^rd'a^d candid people in a .tair. ftraigm ^ot to be mis- inanner, ""^ »n sucn a way as no ^^^ ^.^^ understood by th« J^J™ j „f the people Of meet with the ^eartj approv ^^^^^^^ ^ ^^ this .P«>^\"f«'o^yoth« constitutional point not inteiid to go into ui been debated butlooWngatthat^omtas^ .^ ^ay bo nar. here and in the Pjess, /^^ i ^ ^^ rowed down hus : Ther^^^ tjon-by- which a people may losfctnei^^ voluntary conqu^t, by c;'^*^^,Sn5Stended that we surrender. It han notice p^ ^^ ^^^^^ ^^ have been conquereaoy^'jj^w^^^.^^^ constitu- have done &-.-.y ovri^ - — --^^ g^^ that we re^'SSKandthisis whex. the dif- I 236 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS ■n li 4I' terence of opinion liea. We say that no legis- lature elected to guai-d the constitution and to legislate vithiii its scope h»,ye the right to sweep that constitution away. I cannot help being greatly conlirmed in tliia view when I look at what has occurred in England. What was said in the Imperial Parliament when it was explained that Mr. Watkin's statements were untrue ? Was it said that it was of no consequence whether the question -went to the people or not 'f No, but they say, " if it did not go to the people it was because all the leading men of the countiy gave in their ad- hesion to it, and no pa*'ty could be found to op- pose it. The preamble to the Act shows that the consent of the people lies at the founda- tion of the whole Ikbiic, and I believe that when we shew to the Colonial Secretary and to the British Parliament tliat fundamentnl error and the untruths of the statements that steps have been taken to conciliate us, and that we have approved of the legislation of the Dominion Parliament at its last sitting, I think they will say that we are entitled to a ditterent answer. If we do not receive a different an- swer it will be time for the people io ask — " What next ?" and to follow up their words by such acts as will show to tlie world their determination to be free. I now come to some. of the statements of the member for Inverness respecting the finances. He told us that he had proved last winter that Nova Scotia had received {^400,000 more than she had paid, and no gentleman had contra- dicted him or shown he was wrong. In turn- ing, however, to the report of his speech I find he made the assertion that we had received f600,000 more than we liad paid, he after- wards qualified it by saying tliat we hud re- eeived 4.50,000 and would, in a few days, re- ceive 160,000 more. I must congi-atulate him on having reduced the figux-ea of last winter from ;g600,000 in five months to ^385,000 in twelve. In a short time, at the same mte, the balance would be in our tavour. At that time I disputed the coiTectness of the hon. gentle- man's calculations, and refened to Hon. Mr. Koae's statements of December, 1867, and showed that by reducing that statement to cm- rent accoimt, by deducting from the debit side of the account the interest and subsidy charged and put in its place the interest of J^8,000,000 for 5 months and five months' subsidy — take from it also construction account and arrears of '66- 7 — and the Dominior had received from Nova Sootia $152,400 on current account, more tlian she had paid, and the hoii. member did not at- tempt to show tliat I wa3 in error. But the hon. member did not mean to reler to the current account, but to the cost of tlie whole services. We find by Mr. Rase that— The Revenue was for five mouths $769,689 The Expenditure " " 550,414 Leaving a balance to our credit of $219,275 We were told that there was a large dis- agreement between the calculationa of Mr. Jones, Mr. McLelan, and myself. I have not been able to get that of Mr. McLehui, but I take it for granted that the difference ax-ose in thi» way : there was a tariff of 1866 and one of 1867 in Nova Scotia, and there was a Dominion Tariff ot 1867, and another of 1868, each one differing from the other, and if you calculated at the same time under different tariffs, or under a different taiiff at a different time, there would 1)0 a considerable variation, such as that be- tween Mr. McLoian and Mr. Joue«. Aa to my statements I am prepared to-day, in the light of our present information, and from the stand point I tlien took, to prove every iota of tham to be correct. If the balance which the Do- minion Government holds to day from NoVh Scotia is smaller than I made it, what is the reason? That Nova Scotia imported less goods fr-om outside quarters and more from Canada, and while having done so we have not been as much benefitted us if the imixjrtationa liad been made from other countries and tlie duties paid. It is not surprising then that a discrepancy should exist. What do we see in looking over the countiy ? Every comitry store is beset with runners trying to force Ca- nadian goods into the maiket, recommending them in the high terras, and I only wonder that they have no sold more than they have. The hon. "member for Inverness now tells ui that the Dominion government had paid up to July, 1st, 1868, $385,000 more than they had re- ceived on our accomit ; current account I pre- sume he means. He gives as his authority- Mr. Tims, and as he has appealed to him, to him will we go. Betbre doing so, however, I lioay say that I hold in ray hand a statement from Mr. Tims' office, which only requires to be compai-ed with that of Mi-. Rose to shew that one or the other is in error. But as we oi-e to try the case by Mr. Tiins' rule, we will take his version of the accounts. He shews that the Dominion govern-vtent has paid out on what he calls Nova Scotia account, to 1st July, $2,265,2.33. Now I will make such de- ductions as are required to make this au account current. So for as I am able to under- stand the account, and I must confess I do not lully understand it, and only make such deduc- tions as I feel certain should be made, and if I omit anytliuig the result would be against my- self. Mr. Tims says that the Dominion has paid $2,265,288 and includes what T now deduct, namely : — Redemption of Debt, $55,000 Public Works and Buildings, 22,645 St. Peter's Canal. $22,109 34,805 Steamer Druid, Bal. of Savings Bank, Pictou Railway, Wuidsorand Annapolis Rail way, Arreai-s, 56,914 14,493 2,890 193,000 391,391 434,692 1,170.623 $1,094,708 Mr. Tims says the Dominion has re- ceived, 1,560,708 Balnnce to credit of Nova Scotia, $4<6,0f>0 I will now explain the priuoiple on which I have made these deductions. The redemption of the debt certainly should not go into the current account, and particularly in this case in which they have merely takeu up $55,000 ol 237 OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. wn» from Canada instead of ^7^ our proportion ot t^«.„'^°^*y^ot our mU pro- '^^f^^Z ^?^clna'la witbout payinK» cannot be cbarged in a «^|,''Ynnapoli9 Kail- that is but carjJJ^S ^ » ^.^^ ^^ ^^^ poUcy tl,e co«t of the W'n^o'^ «"^,,Xoment then treme P?."} • ^^''^^InSg into tliis contro wav The result of Mr. 1 in s s™"J."^, -g qqq of conciliaUou. ^3 enrei s ^^^^ -^ KBceived in Nova Scotia, f 1,550,708 ^^i i^^^^'it to leiri^late on a few iiiattw^, S-OvTscotiabond3 sold in only, the nght to 1^^ ^., , ^tex-, 4i^,o«ldimtemW«'^t„„M,.0,l., "tot ^tow.nce. eSr SLJ ^^^iS-ot c.n*. He s._s.B...;«d..i-y,'.S;;.v:;::::: S?f said: «^w and frankly look ^ .• |811,m '^;^^;;r "XderSfXmeT as a great J^ota ■ .;^^-^^-;^y aource, not ' at It Cthe Conieaeru ^^^ juu-pose ot "" in arailaUle- „. „ .,9 *^°.?,t this moment Canada stan tog alone ^.^X^^?.- coal lu^»rs)::V :..... 17,^ ,,. Confederauon W'l g^^^^^^^^ &mu on subsidy ••••;• Jf fp . fund to pledge toi me be oestitution — — 370,857 creditor. „.^„^oa are in a much better 777^^7^ ..The Lower Provii^c^J^^^^ become j^^^,,^, f,, current expense. y,,' i^^""''''' position, and if ^P^J^ Governments would I^«„*;;"i| ^'ut to July 1, l»f • 789,128 inadequate, the J-*^'" " ion" '^Fifom which deduct extra- "^::'^uS^^riA^: pfeass'."^ ta let me turn intention 10 " j 1864-5 it „vnT^ $2l2,9W fund to pledge lor t e sLcnr^ ^^ puipu ^^ arnMUS of tLo .^i^ creditor, not only 8«bux^^^^^^^^ there ^ ^^«^Ue the road gmntot this ye« Z^&^^l^ l:S^ rrrUieplaceofthatolla^t. but it is because the Canadians ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^ 5g,8ll -X?^^C=K%,.^— -^ ft^^-^J'^-^-lES .0,13. i,^ for us, a^" "-;-iia^e in the couulij;. . Zj^^j^tive expenses.whicu Ui« »um how much money '^J^^V ^. ^i,^ 1033 taxed be- "«^« ' the operation ' A 'C wt uii> 238 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS ' '" .iJn.. Trtuoaient poor 5,000 wish they had adopted that course last wintar. Pefioienoy for breaicwatara «Lad It' tbay had done so, many oT the Mining Con- wharves, 1866-'67 40,000 paniea only now incorporated, would iiave gone into operation ere this, and thereby Making the inadequaoy of the sum lai|(ely benefitted the country. I hope, how- required for looad wants ^379,807 ever, now that the government have altered 5 . „ , . their policv, they will vigorously prosecute the IT we had provided for all the services as ^ahUo business, so that wa may get home as w» had dona in 1867 we would have been that ^^^^ ^^ possible, I shall not enter into ths iiOOcb ahort, «a\d that is what I told the House general question of Union at the present time, ttstsenioh. It is said that if we curtail the it ia not really before us; the resolutiods in torvices and keep within bounds we will have tro^luced by the hon. Attorney General merely money to spare— but can we do it ? We have announces the policy of the Government, kept ihera down to the lowest point and by ^^ ^^le manner m which this question has crediting the arrears we f. i we have only been discussed. '.':he hon. gentleman, in laymg ^22,000 over. And what sta.«are our roads tlie resolutions on the table, made a lengtjij and bridges in ? Some counties have not a speech in order to shew why he brought them dollar to spend, and in some it will take even forward, and in the course of his remarks next year's gi-ant to repay tlie advance of last adopted a system of logic. He took up the year, spent by the members of the late Legis- despatch of the Duke of Buckingham, and lature.in many cases, to aid tlieir elections, said he would prove tnat the Duke was entire- tf we have the mere matter ot ^441,000 for ly wrong, if well known rules in logic were our local wanU the roads and bridges must applied to his statements. Now, I will read go down. Education takes nearly one half the following extract from his speech : the revenue, or 5^163,000, and will be nearly *200,000 next year at the same rate of in- " Now I call particular attention to these creise. <^^o grounds of reasoning, because so far from ■ The hon. member for Inverness said that we being conclusive, they have the effect of eom- were losing |f 1000 per month by keeping the pletely establishing our emancipation. Now pew buflding idle, but does he know how the ra reality he propounus such a syllogism as Dominion government look at that matter? this: ' The Imperial Legislature has the power Thia is their view : " On the 1st of July we to paas an act to alter the constitution of Nova ownad the building as it then stood ; wliat you Scotia with the consent of the people of that have paid since we are willing to refund." province.' This is his first proposition. The But that only amounts to $50,000, so that wo second proposition is : ' the people of Nova only lose f250 per month at the most, and I Scotia have given their assent'; ergo, the fot one wov'd soonei' see the building in ashes constitution which was passed, eutitied, * An to-moiTow. than see the Dominion government Act for the Union of Canada, NovaScoti-, take it on such tei-ms, namely for $50,000, it and New Brunswiok,' is constitutionally legal, having cost us some $'214,000. We were told Tt ia a rule in logic, that if either of the prc^o- that Canada had sought to conciliate us by sitions of a syllogism be false, the conclusion takiog the duty off flour, but he forgot to tell must be false also. I." that be true, we deny us that five per cent wra put upon iron, which the second proposition. The first proposition amounts to more than <.he flour tax, to say no- is perfectiy sound— the Legislature ot England thing of rice, ooai oil, f aid other articles. But has the power to alter the constitution of Uia what is the question of dollara and cents in Provmce with the consent of the people. But compai-ison with tiie principle of the .thing,— the second proposition, that the consent of in comparison with the liberties we enjoyed Nova Scotia was given to the alteration of our >mder om- former fn>e and iudependent go- constitution, is absolutely false ; and therefore vemment It is as th-j dust in the balance Ws conclusion is fiilse also, and we are entitied and goes for nothing, x^lr. Bright said, "the to be set free." scheme must break dowi. if the people will it " j^ ^ ^^ ^^^^ grounds that the people have a I beUevo that statement,— I believe that the • j^^ ^^ ^ ^^^^ ^.^.^^ ^j^j^ Confederation. His people do will it, and tiiat the scheme will fii.st proposition is that "tiie Imperial Parlia- break down. It Bntam meaiis tc act fairly let ^^^^ j^^^^ ^ ^ight to pass an act to alter our her withdraw her tiroops, and we wiU soon try constitution with tiie consent of the people," the question out witii Canada. I beheve that ,^,j^g second proposition is that " the people of I am speaking the sentiments of tiiousands . ot j^^^.^^ ^^^^ ^^^^,^ .^^ tj,eir assent." He Nova Scotians when I say that I would sooner ^^j^^ jj^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ proposition is true, bu( spiU my blood in defence of the hberties of my ^^^^ ^j^^ accuracy of the second, wliioh, hf country tlrm allow her to remain m the de- ^aya^ ig the question before the people. How gi-aded posiuon in which she now is. ^^, ^^^^.^ ^^^ ^^ ^^ g^^ information upon the „„„^-,„ r^,., «D ..T»rT.fv constitutional question ? The Duke of Buck - SPEECH OF MB. l-INEO. .^^^^^^ ^ ^.^^^^^. ^^^^^^ ^j^^y ^^ ^^^ Mr. Pin BO said : i intend to occupy but a point, but that is not all. The Delegates them VMy small portion of the time of this House selves engaged the services of Counsel learned on the resolutions now before it. Even if I in the law, and obtained their opinions on the had the ability to make a long speech I would subject. Now, whom are we to believu 'f hesitate to do so at the present time. The These eminent Counsel or the Attorney Gene- Dublio buaineaa ought to be attended to, but it ral ? I believe the people will agree with me must be retarded whilst this discussion is going that the hon. gentieman must be in error, and on, I must express my gratification that the that they would do wrong to continue this Government have agreed to carry on the busi- agitation. The hon. member tor Aanapoli'i uess of the country even under protest, and I tws adopted in his argument another syllogism and it is thu. Repeal agitatic fiiBt, the maj' fo agitate for pie not having House was jv tion. Nowtl: admit,— that « the House w< but I cannot i that the peop • subsequently this statemer lions Nova S from end to kinds of stoi They wore t American A believed it .V were sold be they credite revenues wi and expen( euch stat«n: They wei betaken t niftns, and. teoted. Tl sea-ted, woi try was tc and other ruined. I induced to Repeal ft Il3ti-'TJ8 c no-rr a yei cur prodi the Cana' than it hi young m likely to that the more m taken c head hai to undei possible aJ. No second quentlj anythii is a chc the 8iit' land a such 81 bever; cot up brand lains t Cnmb Great nuvy, hon. 1 liliati they Ml BtOO^ Ml Wh« OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 239 last wintar. lining Coqi- 'ould liave [id thereby hope, how- ave altered osecute the ;et home as er into Ui« 'caent time, ^lutioiis in- eral merely ovemraenl, lueation has in, in laying a lengUiy >ught them lis remarka took up the ngham, and waa entire- logic were , I will read eh: on to these I M) &T from feet of eom- ition. Now syllogisui an 15 the power ion of Nova sople of that eition. The pie of Nova ; ergo, the utitled, * An S^ova Scofcii., oually legal. )f the propo le conclusion •ue, we deny pi-opoaition i ot England ution of Uia people. But ie consent of i-ation of our nd therefore ; are entitled icople have a jration. His )erial Parlia- to alter our the people," the people oi' »s8ent." He L is true, but id, wliioh, hf eople. How ton upon the ike of Buck- liniy on this legates them- insel learned nious ou the to believur' rt»rney Geno- ;ree with me in error, and continue this or Aanapolii her syllogism '. . . .u Wo nrceB the continuance of the and it IB this, "^"'^^^.^a He says that, Repeal agitaupa on J" f^^^,^,^ "^re elected nXthe ?;^J°jSaf-^nd fondly the peo- ft, agitata for «??!"; %7u„:,. ^inds ince, th* a;iet:ie*'^l^-ed U, oppose Union; could be more natural than fo. tl^^« ^^'^^^^^^'afrtoK n1^^^f^h«»««^«^- ''"^'v ^^he only reply they gave was-we ances? inp omy 'J.^ w»«the answer, if "^'"l^aT SS y- -^* s"^ '^^ '"^"^ you want Kcpeai J"" "_j„_^»«, that we can but if there are other ^e;«J^«^^^ g^^. redress we are r«P«-^J° J^^kiea of taking «"?ri ;^'Z Station of Canadian a - =t,-thataUh^l^^eJcUon^a ™.^^^^^^^^^^ ^"-Sinth: SKtion of Ca^adran a? the House y®yiit?^eaeSnd proposition,-- any P*^ '^JJ^^iT^ ^^a Scotia at this mo- ^-Ae^„l&"nrcKed^ opinions fa^^^an^^et S^Se^ Do^i^- ^^^^^^^ Lo nf f his improper bat I cannot ^e^}^ ''ZZn^eA their opinions that the people ^^^^^t^fj^lhy I make subsequently ; «^d Ij^ t^ ^e of the elec this statement. ^Dunn^ tne j^^^^^t tion8NovaScotoawasina«ta^o» e ^^^^ ^^ from end to end. ^ho peo^e w^ ^^^^ kinds of «ton^',^ in^tenlfth^l the British They were told for m^nc^^^^^^^ and they Amencan Act was ™ told that they believed it^as so T^^y jere ^^^^^ such statements. ^^^^ to They were tomhatjiuryo ^g^^^^ ^^^ ^^_ be taken ^^o Canada to ng s ^ '••r^ "^^TiSS Tthe D^omTnion, it was as- tected. ^^,V?;""v™t«Tiff of Canada; the conn- serted, would be the tairn oi ^ Gutter ^ ^as to be rrni do^^" \^^ ^ere to be *^?°S^%?.'dert^'esTci2^«^c« they were ruined. Under tnese ci"^"^ , . ^^^^ them ,nduccdtpretui-nmen g^gJ^^^J^eh dis- Repeal &««» ^ ^"'°j^ to Nova Scotia. But «,U-.Tas co°s«^"^°f^^l°a^e finfl.iustead of r,orr a veaa- has Pf^^^i^^J^^of the market by pur produce '^i"? ^'l^^.^^.^TtuaUv higher now the Canadian artide, It 18 act^ouy g^ ^^ than it has been for the last tnreej young men ^f "f,*gr S t^ P^«^«d likely to ^^tanv time_ltn^ / ^ that the Dommum Governm^^^ ^^^^ more «^«f y/,^ %.e stoir of the 80 cents a taken out ot it. The sw ^^^ have begun wyth^g "'"^ .'' ^"^ T iSilKfer them to iBTchange g^\"8 on, I J^^ "»« ^ cumber- thesreec!iesofthe^on.m^ ^^^ land and Colcheste^ u a ^^^ such strong H&^^^^^Ser for Colchester be very bad. /*'^,i°"dtJ°^ majority of both got up and ^»f^yjuture as being vU- k-onches of the la*.t i>^e'« member for laiMand tutors, and thc^hon ^^ Cumberland i-ose in h« Cay her army and Gre«t Britain *« take away Then the w« "-: -Hi"- - p- «• P..iTn», MiniHt*>r tocoineiieie _^,^,^tAd that ZllTJr:loS^^ them. What working upon It. ^t tne p^j^^^^^ -^^proper already see the ^'"'ff^^^'^^^^f^evyirnvorUm^ agitation in the ^ict S™;^i^^scotia is letters ai-e under consi^rata^^o^^ ^^^^^ notftUlyreprejientedat^C^^ie ^j^^ ^^^ Dominion. Fo'^ .„\"^^X„vin this Piovince, of the Intercolonial Radwayin^uu ^^. ""^"^"ntt'S'the'lrWBhSi'i C^mdian rangement between tne Reentered into, Governments no treaty ^^ eoncurrcnce except with the appi ^he voice of the DominKm;^ J^^t Government, on ac we ought to havemiDtt ^^^^ ^ count of the Rcpe^ clamou^ ^^^^ lieve, when the people 1°^* ^^ ^^ things, but they wiU see how^hey^j^ ^^J^^^ fairly. * MR. CHAMBERS' SPEECH. ^^S^KnrSsirJtcf^c^Sn^i? ticism through which we jusxp ^^ position press. ^ J^^'^SeThat I made no \vinter in my o^" ^^y- Jf ^^t^hat explana- ?"^TSklSKa:«be:ne^^^^ SX'ultb^tfnotsalJiat^^rt.^^^^ press put words V"t°"^^,S a plural vetb never expressed-when we iisea F^ ^^ they made us use a ^lai """^^e us use „sil the ^'"^"f'lVnLJinto^ir mouths the objective, ""^ even put into o ^^ two negatives ^;^ioh we nc^ er as^ ^^^ ^^^ cial rcpo^™ Sf/ed up^r little speeches, r^ fof il^ irSly 5ot c«dit by their mean. lC.T^tri:^^^ ^he admiced ^e Thort hair of hi«, ^^^IT the moS^early, the waiter to call l™^^"\.fawX and swoi* looked in the g^w7^,^^^®„^'^the Wrong man. that the waiter liad caUed up th^^^^« ^^^_ I thought that my speech wMSon^ on ^^^ I have listened ^'^^ 'Tas 3 "at down, speaker, Mr. Pmeo, who has just^ ^^^ ^^^ He t«Us. us tot ^e «f ouW not w ^^ ^vithth« debate j <=^^ be a very smaiS that in P»BYf ^,*i''7eIT ^onomical of time; set of .P«?P^^^ "TllsSson with the import- VVhat«t.mem^mpanson^ « «e**'^*i>'« *? anoeof this ^"*T" .-, .i-de and in compan- '^TifJKS^and hS^- of the p^ple? son witn tno ris''_^^^ ^^^ ^^^ jQjjg ,„ other When ii" J^'^^.J^'";. 'What b'ConneU aooom- 240 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS the bonfirw on one hill after another, what the thirteen coloniw accomplished by a«it*tion Zd eventi-aUy by resortanR to ^ebeUjon t« gain tlieir independence, would he call that a ^te of time? If we can only accomplish the object we have in view, our children will rise a£d prttise us for what the hon member calls mis-spent time. , He says that we should not agitate the country. 1 do not wonder that the Confetlemtes do not want agitation-that they should wish us to settle down quietly. The officer and salaiies of many of them are at ■take, and they feai- that they will !??« l^em il -he acitation is continued. He said that the feelings of the country had changed I ac- . knowledge that they have changed lai-gely, but not in the niauuer which he speaks ol. The feelings of the people have gone trom the positive to the comparative, and trom that to thTsupcrlative degree. The feehngs which were strong have grown stronger sUll, and we who were once {Kwitive have become more positive, and are now most positive that wo ire right in agitating to recover the hberties oi Sepcopte- If the feelings of the country have changed, I should hke to ask him how ae would like to go brck with us and offer our- selves for re-election to the intelligent people of Nova Scotia ? He would then find whetiier the feeUng had changed or not. iho icehng, as I have said, has largely changed against Confederation. Those qf oiur inends who mieht have beeh wavenng and troubled with qualms of conscience are now convinced that we have purtued the proper course. Ihe peo- ple are not foUowing us, they are driving lis Ud we aie rather bucking down and shewing ourselves unwilUng to be driven, ihe hon member for Cumberland also found fault ^itb inv colleague for using strong language. L do not wonder that Mr. Mon-ison used strong lan^ ffuace The Confederates have not pluck enough to do so, or else they con.-cientiously doubt that they are right in advo«ding the epinions which they hold. I do n, wondci that they wish to settle down quietly and hush tie whole thing up. If we speak boldly it is because we feel that we are right >'"-»/i moQ has tt bad cause in hand he is wiUmg to bl^iietandtoseek sohtude but with a good caiwe he is not afraid to speak out. I leel t ut it is mv duly oh this occasion to make my sen- tii^eS known. When I reflect upon the way inwhich the Confederation scheme was cai - riediutliis House and in the other Branch of ^Legislature, when I remtynber that genUe- ^n who one clay used vehement language against were found voting for it the next, i f^l that it is our duty to expi-ess our opinions ^ and kt the oountry see that we act couscicnti- onslv, and vote the way wo talk. My colleague told us yeotcolay M bocan.o of "the nuiioiity that carried the scbcn.e, tlicy we all provided for but one, and he was so Zppo nted that he cut off cither his hair ov his head, I fo-get which. 1 '^'?;>'^;^; , °^f\^^ that to liappon to any ol us, as it might, it ^e Sedh. example of our prcdec.HSors, The SXatcH wll ..« that, wo cannot ,uak« any *'°'M*r:! u:., 1 wnnlrl ...vk the hon. member for Invern.:8H how" 'long ho would .vpect to talk before he could inake a conv.r ? Ho talked four hours the other day. he talked a great deal more in the eaily part of the Ses- sion, and I would ask him if he thinks he has begun to make a convert ? If he had a good cause he should have made a few after all that ho has said. When the Confederation dele- gHt«e went to England we had fireside talk* and talks at the street corneiu, and we found that whenever the confederates attempted to argue on the question they would break down, hilt they used to tell ua, that when the dele- gates returned they would show us the advan- tages of the scheme, use up their opponents, and carry the clay at the hustings. But they did return, and they held meetings, and what was the i-esult? Did they make converts? JSo, at some of their meetings they would not approach the subject because they know that they would only injure their cause. The most Uiey would do would be to talk about what they had done in order to excite sympathy m their favor, while in their private canvass they would say " do you want money, su-, if you do it is at your service.-' "We, on the other hand, talked boldly against Confederation, and our confidence in the result grew stronger, until on the 18th of September all our expectations were realized. I do not intend t,o go into the subject at any depth, because my ability is not eciual to the ta.sk. PubUc speakmg is not tho busine?s in which I was brained, and I find it somewhat difficult, unpractised as I am, to ap- proach the discussion as I could wish. Were it not for the justice of the cause m which w© are engaged, I would not make the attempt to -ngage the attention of the House. In pass- ing thi-ough the country, instead of hearing people tell of the advantage of Confederation, I hear them saying : " Oh, Confederation is a pest," and thev describe to me some ot the nesta which it'has inflicted upon them. I will not name all these peste, but wiU advert to one or two which came to my notice since my ar- rival in HaUfax. A Way Office keeper m Col- chester, a' friend of mine, sent a request that I shonld endeavor to get his salaiy inoreaficd. AVhen he took the office there was but one mail a week, and he received JjiS.OO, afterwards two miuls a week were established, and as the business was largely increased he naturaUy sought au increase of remunenttion. In form- er times, when we controlled our ctwii aftair?, we could have such a matter investigated on the spot, but now we must go to the office ot tho Postmaster General where we are inform- ed that there is no Postmaster General of ^o- va Scotia now, but tlie matter is listened to very courteously by k gentleman who tells us that he has no power in the matter, but that our i-equest must go to Ottawa. I found that it would bo neariy tliree months before wc could get an answer, and I hope that in the mesmtiuie we may get out of tliis Confedera- tion. I will now mention another evil : last year we bought newspapers by the dozen, and some memlxns by the hundred when there was anything interesting which we wished to com- municate to our constituents, and we of course sent them free of postage. So with our letter, hie year we have the same kuidncss extended ti7 lis as to our letters, but strange to say news- papers are not included in the regulation, and the pottltigft ori them ruuai iiceordingly '>"• P"'— Now what is tlio r -U of this ? If we had conU-ol of our afluii-e wo could make the ne- ceesory nrrangemente in ten minutss, but «• it ■'i.\ OP THE HOUSK OF ASSJMBLT. Wl ka he has id a good ter all that ition dele- eside talki we found ampted to reak down, thfi dele- the advan- opponentE, But they and what converts ? would not knew that The most ibout what ympathy in anvaas they lu', if you do other hand, n, and our ger, until on expectations go into the ibility ifl not ; is not tho ind I find it I am, to ap- (vish. Werfl n which we 8 attempt to e. In pass of hearing ifederation, I jration is a omo of the hem. I will advert to one linoe my ar- teeper in Col- ;quest that I ■y increased, vaa but one 10, afterwards :1, and an the he naturally m. In form- (Twn aftair?, rostigated on the office of J are inform- meral of No- r is listened to who tells us ter, but that 1 found that jths before wc )po that in the is Confedera- iier evil : last le dozen, and hen there was ished to com- 1 we of course ■ith our lettei-s, lnc8.i extended ;o to say newB- >8;ulnti«»u, and uu-^lj ''■■ I"—-: ' If we hail nake the ne- utes, but aa it ,. the ppbliahT c^ot -^g|.^e«. we h.v. notihegratafi^taonof «^f^^, valuable in- friends,andomtnenasu^ ^ ^. formiition winch tt.eynx.|ht^a^^^^ ^^^ ^ S^.t^i.tIe:tflH?postage Wd be «ha«ed to the Province. j^ember to '^n. Speakeb ^JP^rto ttirquestion. confine himself i^o^« ^S^^^i do Vt know 5fr. CHAMBERS co'^t^Xrectly to the ques- tbat-I ooijW 'Pf'^X theS of ConfeAeiia. tion rtian to descnbe t^^^^^^,^ our>tfe« ^n,; 'i'Ws clwge of Pjg«^hi,h^earetold makes a pi'-rt of ^h^ »'"",« w ^^^ ^^_ Cana4a ^^ ^ P??,^ ^t £e Province a cent, federated it ^°"i'Vlcl^7it is charged to the but.nbw It ^<^^:^^l£r..raerJlr for In- Province as cash, i ne no ^^^ ^^ Qtuer d;y,.when Dr. Murray presentea a P ^^ ^^^ th^ Worpoiut^on ot th^f ^-^^^^^ ^ to gow ; >e told us tliat ^j^« ^.^. ^^res to Pru.=c lay t«n per ««"Souudland, they would EdM(»rd I^d aad jewwu ^^ ^^^j duty beableuBderConfederatxon^ ly free ^ ^^^^.^"^^ 'Confederates always tie whole, I^o^f'"' ect8,anduse a great speak to us of the F^Pf ^^^^ j ^m ghow you ^y .. ila » and " ands, d«1' ^ comlort. ^\ wiU deprive him of usg^.^ ^^,„t, A gentleman bmlt ^.^^Se tou^runswick large- 6^tu,wbiclihe8upphed^ew«^^ l^i^.tove. ^ He was aiuaous, noweve , ^^ ^^ Sould go i'^^rconfede^te. I can hardly cordingly a strong Conf^^^^^j y^t not trust blameTiia for that, because i » ^^^^er, by n»ys?U- were I ,"}. ^'iStion a foundi^y was the time we had t<«™S on a more exten- built in SackyiUe conducted o sive scale, and mstead ot me x^ ^t^. ofacturer se^^"^ b«^^^^ u^e New Brtos- cipated,to ^^^^'^^''"eompetitionwith his, Jck 8tx)vo8came mto con^ ^^^^^ty. and he lost customers «J,«^Jfi Ae would have ^ehadnotbeenconfed^ted,new ^^^^ hadftduty oftenpercentmh^ avor,«m Kba^all hj o-^^-jSS ?ot a good I do not say that this comp g^^^ing how thing for tlie co^^rTtos were disappointed, '^^^ ^ T- S ha^founTthem Z. The and how theu- s«^'5't^"' result with the hon. same probably will be tbe resu .^ fjrunswick with «arthenw probably cheap as he con P^o^"*^® "' Canada, from the WiU te be able to send J ^"^i^ ^^l to that fact tnat the ire gbt ™^' ^g^ch goods, Smtiy \ r';:?is sn?ryTow%uStU>rd. while the fii-st «o^^,, V\o bkrri^r. The hon. shire the duues will V^no^ ^^ concUiat^, gentlemaii .toi^i ^ *^ent^d tiiken off frotn ij,e Domimou Governmc^i building matjnal. 21 to 5 per cent, on smp ^^ t^e do n?tponside;tii^,y^7tlfe other day ^ri^ Provincial becie^^^^^ ^^ pay a that the s^Pj'^S. rtwould be better to smaU to'', an'l^f ^.Sn than make the poor leave the duty on thun i .^ ^^^ton . „fV.vf>e times us muui "," , ,,„^t^^„ w;;;p!--ke"toid us, f-'^xtrt^oAi'^y^^ tat^n off flour «^* ^^^ ' We hacl not had why that duty was put on . that duty for eleven ye«x.^ iT^^SllSj Reci>ro^tyTrcaty weh^ijt d«ty«^^^^^ BterUng per ^V» Jf^^^iiJlutv on «g«in ?- was annulled, ^h" J«* *"J^_!; -scotla ? No « Were they the f"«°J? "^.J^^^S own sd but the Canadian P-fy-JT^" ^^ seoti* pn^ fiBh motives to serve ^iTL^^p that duly «* ^n?'' \"rii «k wh^3^d^S^» ^ns Now I will ask, 7" V"" ^^r jg piaia. Ni(w floilr and com meal ?^*?J^Xom 1^ to 17 p«r Brunswioklhaving a tanff of fro« ^^ ^^^ ^. cent, had nothmg to cO'«Pl^^ J^*' p^e^oui to ^«S^/ 1^'rSiKx ^Sllkely tod*i»-. Confederation »"« »x w ^rdertot* them into open /ebemon, and^"* ^^^^^ tain that Province as y?;^ as x Mv hmUbv the Customs Minister, WW "i;* Mr. mey, "'•' ^^^^.^ j* ^gs nob iM of w»y to take it off; *^«**!^l" noosing both th«»« love for us but &«? f««^Ve^"fonciliatidn ! twoPi-ovinc^. ^^J!Su« about the 4* When the hon. "f™^^„^„wn.b«ildtog J«- bein^ taken offbt«idij^Jand8Wp^ua^ ^^ t«ri5 he forgot to s^ ^J^^^t on other much was at the »«f"V"^'Vi^ioh, I thiiik, goods. Rice T^^^'Xotift di^y f^, btrt a llways came into ^^ova Scotaa d^y nee. ^^ duty of fifteen per oentJ^M^P ^^^^ Confederation. ^^"^ T'^jSt a duty of fif- the rate of five per ««"{• ^J,^o«, when we teen cents a ga"«« °° ^^hf will talk abotft only paid ««^;^". S^g ^^ri*! ^^^'''^'' the tax on «^P^"^|g^ taxed? T^ poor ™«»'? J*h."^en toldus that we g* hon. member ™8 ouen g ^^^ ^ do; more money tlia«.,^®P^t. ArVweto be- but I do ''°t'^4^«^*-tak1 money from oome paupers and o®|^" *". helontt to us ? I the Canadians that d^^*^f ^thout their despise such^thmg; -.^^.l^^^^^Ids throo^ all the i'HP'i^irr^tr own Sem again I had full co'^^^^^f.S tTcould continue to have no doubt but tnai we smaller meet all our expenses rmd^ a mucn^ tariff than the Canadians^. ^^^^^^ our expenses ^^^f^^own account and they '^' do bu«ne« on our own ^^ ^^^ theirs I will K«.a"T » !,««. II we ha^* a Sways be.largely above ours. B^e .j revenue of two ^^f^.^^^nces to bar only on« ^« ^^^S Sl^S is better th«i^ wants. A V^^T'^^'^T^k at Prince Edirard grcatdealwithJmiBery. L<^a^i^» ^g „d Wnd, 'i^'^^J^^'ll^ sZffid by charity, bridge8,-the P<»f,,^ef'Ktito government therearenocmmtyt«^,«^J^^^^«^^g. g^^ is carried oj^y ^ *^^ i ^ould ask any man owes onlytoO,OTO, ana X ^^ ^^^ ^j MONPAT, Aug, J(l. The House «.«t^3 o'clock. ^^^^ ^ Mr.WHiTB jntrodnc^^a^om ^^^,^j„^. Sydney Bl"''-'* wf (>"'! ersofStrwti, i I 242 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS X ..^u appraise damages by railway in the oonnty of Annapolis. . . „ Mr KID8TON presented the petiUon of C. R. MoSd, a School Inspector an Victoria ^Sprot. sec. laid on the table the report oftiiVCommiisioners appointed to enquire m- to the condition of our finances. Also, the fourth annual report of the Hoard "^mKiS^OiJ presented a petition nmner- ci^y sSned. relaSve to the -tabbshment^f^ house of refuge in some imrt of Victoria ^mS*^Towi*8END introduced an Acttolega- liittie refers lists of electors for the County "'I^SS' was received from the LegisU- tiT^ cS. stating that they had passed the following bills : . ,. i j r-,. To in«)rporate the Stanwix Gold Co. To incorporate the Boyal Gold c-o. To incorporate the North St. Lawrence and "^To^'SSoSio the.Hants Co. Temperance ^fLorpomte die Albion Lodge of Tem- ^^'^0 iSo^te the North American Mining ^T^inSoi-ate the Strawberry Hill Co. The adjourned debate was then resumed. ioNCLVSIOK OF MB. CHAMBERS' SPEECH. Mr Chambers then continued his speech as foSws -I-^Sdiscuflsingon Friday evening w when thl House adjourned, the question, iSit the future had in store ^^^fZ^^Te M.T, we aU know, is susceptible to change, JiTcI^nly matters -- ^.^ ^g; K STBraiL^rd^SriS^titS^iB^^fSin, aU^ Se"he prejudice against democratic ^pu^uS^n form k &oYernm.nUn^oyn^& »«r Our ship of state is water-logged ana Sses t?n3 tiie hehn, and unless she be refiises to nuna vu g^otians must go to rr^nnm aIS 2 I can see the people are the bottom As tw M 1 ^^ ^^. ^^^^ we"hav^etosp7re'wiiltiiere find a.reudy ^^a- ket and good prices, paying us ">^««J' J" bS.d»tuff%nd manufactured gopds,^th* ^tter ^\,in\i nn heinc received here auiy iree, v «"»« Ste tbT«Q«t m^m ^i th.U- ol..apaw». Already, is it declared, th-vt il we accept Annex- ation in preference to Confederation, our country must soon grow up with great rapi- dity,— that Sydney must soon become a Bos- ton. . . w Hon. SpeakeIi — Tliis session has been already protracted to a great length, and I must ask gentlemen to confine themselves to the subject before the Jlouse. The hon, mem- ber is not speaking to the resolutions. Mr. KiDSTON— The hon. gentieman, I sub- mit, is speaking to the point. Hon. Speaker— I don't think so. I hare a dutv to perform and must discharge it. Mr. Blanchard— I hope when I address the House again I will be permitted to k)"o^ hon. gentlemen when they have been allowed to wander so far from the questin. It gives me a good deal of pleasure to hear these ex- treme sentiments propounded. Mr. Chambers- 1 was attempting ortiow the feelings of the people in consequence of the manner in which Confederation has been forced upon them. Perhaps it was wrong in me to have done so. -,. „ ■^.^ Hon. SPEAKER— It is the duty of the Speaker when a gentieman is speaking to a resolution, to confine him to the subject before him. 11 he introduces new matter, he should oonolude his speech with a motion. ^ ,„ ^, Dr. Brown.— I cannot see that Mr. Cham- bers is out of order ; he is asserting what he beUeves will be for the benefit of the country; he thinks that Annexation is preferable to Confederation. ■Mr. KiDSTON.— I thinkjthe eighth clause authorize-* the hon. member to speak his senti- ments freely. tti.„^ Mr. Ryerson.— I am not aware that tners is anything to prevent anybody making an Annexation speech. We have come here to discuss our position. . Hon. Speaker.— You are, however, not in order and had better sit down. Mr. Chambers.— So far as I understand the business before us I am speaking stiictly to the question. I was showing you that if Confede- ration were preissed on us what might be the result. I was going on to observe that our country would unprove. Sydney, Cape Bre- ton would grow into a Boston, New Glasgow and'Pictou a Philadelphia, and other towns accordingly; that Halifax would be a new Ifew York, and instead of the sprink- ling of shipping now about the whar- ves the whole harbor would be studded with sail; and instead of the few dingy steam- ers plying about, we would have floating palaces moving in all directions, and large ocean steamers aniving ^ronr and depKrting for foreign ports every day. With the addi tional population capital would foUow m abundance. Our mines would be developed, our streams, now running idly over tlie rocks into the sea, would be mad«? to tiirn myriads of wheels, setting all kinds of machmeiyin motion. Our taxes would be light when compared with the resources we would have to meet them; and instfad of having tojteep up UUien-jt-n Vr6 ^ = — '-- — — .• - ^ America for our friends. ^. , . . . , ^„.„ However, notwithstanding this bnght fiitiiie, we are willing yet to sail under the old flag, and -VYbfttcyer may occur in the lutureins I OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 24^ pt Annex- tion, our re»t rapi- ne aBoft- has be«n th, and I oBelvM to ton I uMin* Btn, I «ab- 1 liare a it. I addren to follow m allowed . It giVM X these ex- ng o ^ow ence of the been forced ; in me to the Speaker reaolution. re him. 11' Id conclude Mr. Cham- ng what he he oonnti7; •eferable to ;hth clause ik his senti- re that there making an me here to sTcr, not in derstand the trictly to the t if Confcde- might be the srve that our ', Cape Bre- few Glasgow other towns d be a new the sprink- the whar- be studded dingy steam- have floating IS, and large .nd depttrting V^ith the addi d follow in )C developed, irer tlie rocks turn myriads machinery in light when Pi would have r'mg to keep jlv nJl North bright future, r the old flag, the future th« Canada party and the BriUsh Government, and ^rt£p%i.willbe-po-^^^^^^ Uieae resolutions. I s^PP^^ neor^' in the them, b«tl^n,nhatS^ey would prefer country who t^U n « ttot tney ^^^ these ^^ol^t^oj^^^^^^^I^fa should have their They wish that Nova Scotia snom ^^ country once more. Ihepe^n^^e^ ^.^^ now made "P.«P,*^"*Hnhev have obtained never rest satwfaed until they UflA e ^^^ the object in view. Many «^P«^J4„„es, our would take P'>»^^'^"ffi^fg°'ld all that we railroads,, our P'«<;^^p^iS;,,^confedci-ation, had the right to co".t^oi„°^rncrof Canada, and assert our '"f^P^f ^'^i wiU by They ^''""f, VgXv ^eCa^aSns; and il' force compel us to ooey w"- j^ ^^i Hbe should, they ^^o'^'l„^>? „!„ We shall govern themselves ac'^°T™f- ^nr but not now agree to use constitutional n|eans, d SavingVenlo"g «^„f ^e'can"^ g^" l^o^^vev. put our shoulders to tl.ejaieel,and^^Jf ^e do not «-£?««'i:rhtp^ur2l.rSfore elsewhere. We '^"^^ ^^^P „ if we but act looking for help trom ^^'^^rf^rm oar 4uty with «-ergy and spmt, »^d P^J^ ^y rf*, solemnly and faithtiJ^ly, twn ^^ ^^ KVS a;tl\r:fr the Ki vr .or. dantotheland.ofpionusc. 7ie; -^tsatisfi^tt.eHouse-^.^3^^-^^^ air. CHAMBBE9.-Weweiereierr«v other day to fifty years Jfo-^,'^ a race I will refer you a l*!^, >^«f J":^ge tlie same of people who were held in bondage u asive. Suchwasthenatoonahty^oltn ^^^^ ites, and their concert of action ma worf could have ^f^J^r^'i cover of have taken their ^^^PtrTsniritedapeoplo to night; but they were *«** /PJ™!auently were Htil themselves away, ^^J^S mSin or- determined to use co»«^^i^'°^ fender of Ser to obtain an ""'^o'^'^^^SiStetance. Lmselves.theirUtUeon^andfteusute^ ^^^ They determined that they y°'"^ ^q the Promised Land, ihua "?^ ""J_^^ ^lie rivers ject Li the fix-stpkce, they tur^au ,^^ land to devour them. As tn^/"^''^nd as the theysentdarkness throughout the lana ^^^ neit constitutonal ?^°^^-^5e° teoy the crOps thunder, lightning ""/^^^^^f i^St was left —next, locusts to eat up the utue uiu, in^e' country. H-fS/Sme fuiSr.and thought they would go a htue t^ ;^^,.. afflicted the Egyptians ^^^ '?°'^- ^^ ^ut he de- ly induced the king io ^^^ them go, o drmined to keep tlieur catde. J^^^ P^^ ^hey pte, however, dfteimined ^^^,80 ^ot an " vmconditional su^^der a ^^^ L their last ^^^^.-^ » co^titutionJ means" land. Now>elatter co^^ i^t had the desired ef ^^^^^^e some such ^«P«2?i!:^^:i'ir.'' we Lust soon, get Repeal, ^e mus'- wo.k s»r i^^^ ^^^^_ man to man,— we must wmp Hf SI'BECH or ME. BVBKAOK. .^Oiiiw/i ^'^Thvt • Trt; -d Mr. Smi«i, t^. pi the made by-Mi. ^[opP ^^ ^^^ n^uoh left for me delegates, I f^eUhere is noi m gtotemenl to say, as they have ^^^^^^^^^^ and diffi - of their mission and ^l^® ^!^^^ying their culties they had to contend wi J mla^.^8 ^^ papers and reso^uum^^^^^^^ tiament, and feel pie^eu ^^^ j^hn ^ere di^"f *"*• . iS men who ^oted in our Bright and the n^e ^ jen w ^^^„ ^^ hehalfgive/-^^aTc^«e of aggitatio.., prove a straaghuorwar peraevere, knd for the membera ot tl^nou. p- ^^^ and with the supp^oJ^I^P^e ^ ^^ f vinoewewiUbesupeoiKep ;5jo^ Saotia. Confederation t^at^^^ e^I^ I thiuk After a new election ^^^ frnvOT^* the British GoveramentvnUttkea^ ^^^^ view of the situaUon, seeing JP*^ ^jonsent Zn has been «»^t-3eT^JS^pL°Krixo«ld and handed oyer ^ ^^^^ffl^ will hare to Repeal be «tdl ^efus^ T^^^^ and look in teOie the matter in om own nau ^ g^^kBr ^"''^"dJi'CbcenSTo^ Z fiSS^i a eood deal has oeen =»" , , .^^ member ^rs of this Province, ^d the hon ^^^ for Inverness made some ve=^ ^^^^ tnents on tne floors of thisHou^ ^00,000 He stated that <^anada p«d "to^^^ » ^^ more than they J<^«^^„^^JXtement, reducing it down to POO.UUU, anu u statements more for Inverness make about t^o ^^ ^ jjor I [hh^k he will.cornB ^'%^^^^^^^t ,^- him. and ^r Ins mfom^uon I ^^ve^ S'^^ScSfwe^'Sak being con^V and whichisasibUowB.: /v iflftT REVENt'E. Customs, Light Duty, Excise, Post Office, Casual Bevenue, Mai-riage Liceuses, Bank Imposts, Fmes and Forfeitures, Stamps, Railways, Quarantine, Fisheries Licenses, Penitentiary, Marine Hospital, Sick Mariners Fund, ^ 12,766.21 18,865.21 41,466.00 8Q0.62 2,291.86 891.48 1,525.12 4,760.43 248,660.16 28i.0S . 12,611.86 873.60 128.92 2.96 PEBlTEi AND PROCEEDINGS 244 Sigmd Station, DiatECModSeuiaea, gavinc'8 Bank, SalMof Publio Works, Militia, 91,434,504.14 Previnoe of N. 9«ti*-To ortdit rf Public cbbt of tha Provmee, 116,i04.u» 9.32 490.67 656.70 1,064.87 16,000.00 S68.5U 79.74 Total, $1,660,708.19 ■ZraNDITDIUI. Interest of Public Debt, Charges of Maaagemaut, Redemption of Debt, CiTil Government, Administration of Justice, Penitentiary, Legislation, Militia, Statistics, Quarantine and Imiuigration, Marine Hospital, PwsioDS, , ^ „ ,. pnblio Works and Buildings— I^htiiouse Construction, 8t. Peter's Canal, OsWin and Steam Service Subsidies, ■ liriitiiouse & Coast Service : Main- taoance Humane Establishment, Foff Trumpet, Buoys & Beacons, Steamer " Druid," (Repairs), ]Do. Maintenance, S^tr. "Daring," SaUe and Seal Islands^ Fisheries, eatings' Bank, Indian Fund, Indians, Printixig — Miscellaneous, Stamps, DistMssed Seamen, (gitaoal Station, • Ballway Conatmction (Pietou), ■ 43fcataities— 4o -widows of deceased officials, <5wtom»— Salaries and Contingep dies. Customs — ^Returned Duties, ^Do. ' Returned Duties, Poet Office Railway Maintenance, Qubsidy Account, Province of Nova Scotia— Cliarged to Debt of Province, 802,971.33 179.99 65,000.00 20,945.84 19,700.00 13,616.25 96.00 105,065.08 5,014.30 6,111.49 329.;)0 4,800.00 22,645.29 22,109.30 1,900.00 42,526.40 9,937.93 4,555.26 4,911.90 6,501,89 231.45 18,390.00 107.26 760.00 138.95 aa7."5 1,396.48 1,385.88 193,000.00 240.00 79,186.48 10,339.48 4,175.01 158.66 73,039.13 260,030.95 333,681.00 860,887.70 ^2,265,233.84 ■Bbtal, The amount of property charged against Nova Scotia «u:counted for in the debt ol eig" • TBtllia na, as per agi-eement : — St. i-eter's Canal, , #22,000,00 Purchase and Repairs Steamer Druid, y.^iSZ-y^ Knnning Expenses Do. I'tnio Cost Schr. Daring, iQt'nnnoo Cost Pietou Railway, 193,000.00 Windsor and Annapolis Railway, 391,890.75 St. Pet«.r's Canal, JlffiSJ Arrearages paid, 4 a4,p»i.»* if 1,150,292.78 Amount paid out Dominion Gov. 2,265,233.84 $1,114,941.0« Amovmt received from N. Scotia, 1 ,660,708. 19 Amount Dominion Govemmeut ,_^., has received from Nova Scotia, f436,767.l3 Now, Mr. Speaker, the report has been widely circulated by the Confederato peopde that Canada has lost heavily by Confederation with Nova Scotia, to tlie amount of some «600,000, and, I think we will be pi-epared to prove tliat we havt; payed into the Dominion of Canada )^435,767, and by referring to the statement above you can see for yourself. ■ In the first place, they charge us with re- deeming $-55,000 of our Province paper, of which amount they have paid "witli their own Cana- dian notes, and have not yet returned the biDs so taken up, concelled or hot, to the projrer officer to receive them, and they may still be afloat in the country. The next charge, {^[9,937.98, cost of rteamsr Druid, and running expenses, f4,555.26 for the same, also charged to Nova Scotia, -witJi-lwis of the Daring, amounting to $4,911.90. Now, Nova Scotia is charged with the whole cost cf tlie Dominion Navy, for, I believe, it is all they own at the present time, and we have about as much to do with it as the govermnent of France or any other ^The nest charge is $193,000, cost of Pietou Railway, which amount is included in the eight millions of our debt. *rhe next charge is $22,000 for St. Peter's Canal, which is also included in the debt. We are then charged with Arrears proper, amount- ing to $860,887.70 -which amount is made up ot th^ foUowiag items : Windsor and An- napolis Railway, $301,390.70 ; St Petei-'s C^, $34,805, and the balance called Arream proper, $434,691.94. Now, Mr. Speaker, when -we get the amount and the debits and credits in their plaCes, I think I can clearly show to the member tor Inverness if my statement is correct, tiiat Nova Scotia has paid into the Dominion go- vernment $435,767. No-w, when we have Repeal, and when you look thi? fair m ths face, Canada has made a good b^gain out ol Nova Scotia, and we Would like to have oui own Province restored back to us. The hen. member for Inverness goes on to tell us how much Ve have saved to Nova Scotia by the light money being taken off ships. He says it is a saving of $30,000. Jn Ctmada they never had any lig'.it money on their ships, nor duty on sliip's mr.terial8, ahd Mr. Speaker and gentlemen, how is this money saved ? it has to be paid by the labouring class,— itosing the duty on sup{ar, tea, coilee, and aU the articles they require,— in order to reheve the weai'iiiy snip-owners Ol "im iiuTiRvr. • gentlemen, is Canadian Legislation,—!© oppress the multitude, and relieve the wenlthy, and i hope my hon. friend from Invemeb. -will make OP THE HOUBE OF AiSBMBtT. ^5 ^436,767:13 9t of Pictou udod In the St. Peter's (c debt. We iper, amount- It is made up ibr and A!n- 9t. Petei'8 ailed Arreai^i !t the amount leir plaCes, I member tbr correct, tiiat Dominion go- len we have 9 fair in the firgain out of :e to have om 3. 3S goes on to ved to Nova aken ofifshipa. I. Jn Canada on their ships, [ Mr. Speaker ,ey saved? It class,— tttisihg «, and all the to relieve the .V-- TViat jn.—to oppress svenlthy, and I aes,. mil make . nl.in to hi. consUluent. ,/hen ihu »talenient pl»in to «»» rffc hon. membei^l^tion. He ^y. the^ ment of Canadian ^^^-L^ner from Hali- Sxto ^ann<)uth;b«tlwi^ ^ j^^rantod, loi member for In^«™f* JXt was ,yrcpan3d to if it had been 1 >*•«» .,?,"* then*, «« 'h« rontfl , put th., "'^^'^^^ J^ta» SidiBii wte-fly««; U, gentlemen, *»>« ^^^ ScotUn«, w^^^"' to blind the eyes of^oj^^ goj^g tx> get the steamboat gnmt u» ^^ t-er^«fj^rXhSS«°^^-«*^;e:. at the present time. >^ „id nevei ^n sh(p to C^;^f^^%n.in^^^^ "^J^^ will have, and ta-aa^y/ " „.| ^i^es m t^w SJ^i^wlthm^^fe^^-fj^ in the countiy and ship them u. ^^^^ ^ ^i United Btates ^^J'^f ^'^^dei-ate rate ot. duty, our products, even at a mo ^ ^^ ^tu And situated as vre •"■«- ^"^Xn thatis withm ttiat groat and pi^P""^ And Mr. Speaker aWmilesofthis^Projince A ^^^ ;Sl gentlemen, I ««« ^^^b^^t Sng a new P- . two Governments are 'iboutma^^J'be our m- Srocity Treaty, and l^^^^^^^ » delegation to ti^Lt for this House to appoi ^vashington, fti^ also to ask the Govern endeavounrig ,^BKCH-"" _ in rising to Dr.McKEAV «P«^« f^SiS period of th« ^;^99 the House at ^ ^V ^^j^ ^^d so ^t«, after so ^^g^^Hn^t confess that 1 well said, on tuesu^^^j ^\>arvmm^T^ feel a considerable de^e ^..t ot wMt not so n^««^ P^S^^as on account ot what ought to be stated, as o . ^thatlwould Sht liot to be 9?ld. J='^"^^jf ,^ere I to give a Ste doing 1^«^?::\^,,^St question of Con- Xnt vote on this ^^iwrw" i ^^^ ^. Smtion. I "^'^LflrfinS somewhat differ Sn^atldoso^tht^f^^^^^ j^ lastwintoi;. ent from what I «"*®''fLinK. asItrusteverj- Sen I entered upon It feeling, ^^ ^^ g^^. Sy felt, proud "bei^ ^^ I belonged to a isli Empire. 1 *«" f f^ the world ; to an l<.m- country, tiie g^e^^^^* i^'scattered all over the pirewhI»ecolotiiesareBcaxi^ ^^^^ SJ; an Empire ,\ieyins that fhUe nrivileges, ^mcn i " of petition. 1 Shew was the sacred #oij^.^^ ^^^^ S^v^ and was always led to ^^ ^^^^ T,i«it Duke or 1^™ "*v 7"*, ,.„ if be had .SfSdX^ahiburgh o^.^;^",^^, .U he wrongs or B""^'"^ff'!CiV nature, and th^ STdo wa« to state theun^ ^^^ ^^^^^ ^notonlybe mv^a^tea^, I m,«t |W if they were touna ^ j ^hich N««i inJo 1 have scon tb« T^X imperi^^ Parl»- Scotia has been troat«a byine f^^ dPreda8thByer>-»«uutam ^ oo««d«F- tioe-my ^^^^'j^^'J^Sn aie we iu »ow ^ nhle change. W bat P^—.,- Knubuid's nobwet H?rei ISova ^^'^'j'^Xt loyal, but ^loniee, not merely ont 01 lu ^^^ ^j^. Sm^tloyal--p^^^J^ien.. I^^^Ji bit the British "•'^^loyalisw from the oW andEnglishmeiv-andb^^oj^^ ^ thirteen colomes. /^/^^^ oonstituUon had colony had founc that ij^^^i^.iymded man- teen swept away^n a ;^^ they wont ^ ner,by afraud *"^LjXt their gnevance» England and e itreaMO um ^.tions and Kdd be iuvortiB*t«d- »"7 ^^^the people, remonstrances were v^beed*^^* ted ^.^^^ ^,ough their delegates, were^ inveaUtfft- Tmo^ oontomay. »f ^J!^'been refused to the tion which could not have been ^^ ^.^ veriest cx-uninali. On thja«e ^^t th.y have changed ooBM*iei««wy ., wore last winter. ^ argumentii »a^ I am not going •^^tL^ J?or liTvexaes* a«d duced by the ^ou. member, to^ ^ ^j^^ ^^ Cumberland; but belo»r"^^i„^ to a tew er luminary, I F^^-^fSerV^- *^«?\t S remark, made by t^* >*T~ra wa« no doubt that Seman «»*ted^that ^^^a^^^ova geotift had Cieehngs ol^ J-Prt^re^ly, 1 m .t^ vastly changed ot j^te._^'»_ '^^ Contederate behoves this to be the c»»e, u ^ . plrty. itthe CJanadm^^ op^on,-if g j.^^ ment entertam tho "T\i„5uuehapii, that ">» ^tedby the I>uto oi^«^^^ed,-if th«y feelings of the P^P^S* whj not put the ^^atuith^»»«^^at the polls, tmd ^eation before t^e foi^^^^, t^, people ^ee what is the ^etu"! »emmi ^^^^. ^^^ 1 on the.question, '^^^^ij'^d the question or nowpouli-eston the mull, ^^, t wiUsoon be ^ettled^J^ J?the constitutvpu^ on to say that the que^^ ^. ^^d by emiMPt aUty of the Act ^^^^^^t accordingly there lawyers m ^ngland^i^. U^^^^^ ^ .,«. ought to be no 'urttoei a^ Y^diev^, tjje ti^. He asked wlucb shorn ^^ ^^ of iw of the Att«iney b^e^ ° ^^ ,eply. I Siose eminent J^'^*^!,^ of Nova Scotia aie Wd say that the peopU, o^ - ^^ ^^^ ^tty. not bound to take oiUi^ tne ^^^^^^ Genei-al or the law «' ^^^^common sense and ^ded that it is o^^^^y^ t^e facte ^ Let us reason. Now, ^^J",. two at the law ol those look for a moment 01 t^o '.opound^cl STI^^oSu Pai^- -^ ^^•- ^^^--^ ^■ co^. tiie foUowingj^eiy .- ,^, right Sn2blf.ti5^t.^--'-^^^'"^'^ regard to ^ova Scoto ' ^ ^^ given : 1-0 this the to"°^"?« !7 properiy « Calltd .. T Ab a matter ot »w> P^"^^ „«'iiimt weareof opinicmth** «»-"•-- - -:i! He DEBATES AND PROCEEDINOa I tfi»-'' ? 'I the petition whieh we ar» in. I should nay tliat M a matter of injostioe — as a matter of tyran- ny — aa ft matter of properly, so calied, despo- tism — tlifc Imperial Parliument hud the {Hjwer to do so. These men liud not the hardihood to say tliat it is a just law. Now, sir, who is Wr Uoundell Palmer ? U I have not been xaLiintbrmed, this is the gentleman who was Attorney General when the Act ol' Union piissed the Imperial Parliament, and ^as tht* O^use of the preamble beintf added to tliat Act, whioh declai-ed that the people of Nova Scotia wiohed to be coniiedemted, and was committed to the Act, A jain : « kept a P^io"" „ tg^j. until Ilv the elections were Je^A ^ ^^^y '^.'ATL^TndleTcSfbyAeBore authority of October, and then only ny ^ ^^^ of the late Governor, Sir F.WJ^na. ^^^ pear not to hav6 °e* Y""'"' ^^^ performance Wv if they were, 9l»«°k fr«°*^ ^^ Wzetting of of8nchftnutti!)opulia- "^ct as ttie^^ ^^^ Where I appointed in ««ch a way, n ,ad ncjhing to do w.th t^ Hub ^^^ g ^^^ 1 1 \'"Z?"t;*^*.^et'w^:rd he*^^ Sl"^'?f41K^vnoVhor. Woul.l^,"S. "'^r Z'TkV'*' WhTw^d^r s:^ aay 'onrwC^uWcometo Wm and ^te, " Ar. r»foin|the pres^^'^P^-^VS.^ S ^lur/^iist'S ^^tteed until /o.a ^^r^;tS^rr^'^-the J^that tl^ BritiTh Parliament haa not consuercw whoss Sn?af o^f rrcSt':: 4' Lyve« that tto riL';Jhtr2aS totThey had oome down gr:S.taSu". l,t^C7enSndid»ay ^'- ??^kMe"wo^d, do^ -^n he uttered ■*' "^ ^ A^ J « rf no .Seat consequence whe- ther. B^^^^f^tVl PxWme that the ther ho said so or . ""^ "» ^J^jeny that, such 'TASthe object ^* ^''^^ ""^..g wanted." I would not teU ^^em what js ejv^ ^j^.^ should haTo tl»ought th^ tney^mig^ j^^^ time of day know pret^ wen what ^ ^^^^^^^ m what position, lT^°"i*f pieced, not only our Local Government hav. p -^^^^^ .^^ thetnselves, but the F0P^,.^;^„ ^^y, and put had they gone i" ^^SEntith 'sir -John themselves m "'^'''^n, Uan friends, and A. JIcDonald and In^ ^J"^^^^^^^ gnevan- „lced their a«««^°"„%^''been^ a nfost hu- ces ? They would ^^«'^^JV ^^^, „„, exe- iniUating position • »«*^ '^J ^^t to do «o. It ''"^'^tbf dS orfheTa-dils when they waB the duty « ' ^y^^^ ^lie people ol eame down here--»tnowins ^^j.^^^. ^^_ tlr;s Province were excited a* ^e ^^^^^^ oviJlirig all the prudence ami ^^. j^__i,j,ow- ?.esentatives to p^ent ^^^.^^^^-Jernment Ing. as they did that ^« X«„eiliati«g us- had l«^\°".S2?'forway some definite pi-opo^ to have brought torwara Governnaent .ition, and l^^^^^^S BuTwhen .K.ught .nd people of Novfe&c.^a.«u ^^ ^^^ i„to '•otnmumcation with^a CO ^ ^^.^ ^.^^^ Convention, which ^a^^^^^ ^j,,^ ^«re not what did tiiey ^^^^^J^yjZite txjWns of com- in a position ^oftera^yd^m^^^ ^^^^ promise or plan ot cone consideration sir^ply rt^pared to ^«J^,^„ rovided some matters °*„ * «^^"^otia would go up Bomo financier from iNova SCO ^^ ^j,^, to Ottawa to mcetthemthe^e eomplain the const: ittion itw"-^^^"'^ 1 to make any most-they ^^«« "^^^ /JKey could not do alteration; in ^^^^^^^^^''^ rte^ th«y-i" f'^^*' BO. so cautiouB H"'«f'^VbirthS would not fco dishonest I »'^l^?T«-;J«aSd soas to ■put anything in;mung as requested ^^ ihewthe people. ^*»»^™y J the Vstionis ^^- '^^rZ^'^l doX^U I n.aint.un.there ^cry important no rtouOT, overstepping ies^nethmg ""J^'y^'^^a principle of liberty that subject; there » a i . ,gider- **"??,, .kLJo ner cent, ship money, did he do r6«ist«d the 20 per c^^'" '^.^^t ? No, by no toon account *^t ^^^ituy man, bntherc- ghrted because the tfj,""/ offered ub termt.. the King. K^fJi^J*^n "rthTorableina which wc n^'g^V .LC>vould notbesalfe ,i.nv,-j"---r: ---,,^.„^t,_„ Act, UieymisiK. "v , »:.,« tliom; as unuer uii. 1^^""" ^, ._^ u . f- ■8;°r,?'ae SsS^'olaftoigriw- tl,e ,tamtmeat thjy hav^^^^^^ j Empire, ol b^oat Bnton i> o ^^^ ^ iwor f commSo^n to inqiuro into the ^Itan^Ss of Nova fcotia M. Add^r^y^^ L^d'LS'^Snot^^g^^^^^^ «^--«i and aangnj , , the House to assent to irr'^-,Srsk iwSd a^k you,I would ask Si&t -JX'S'avetfsomettJire r?! ^TJare we to' ^ t^M that it will b« •XrtUngand dangerous-' to ask thelmpe- • . " >..Lmpnt to investigate our wrongs? rial raihament to iiwe^^ b ^^^^ Ajram he (Andevley) saiu . V ,qco fVinnro- *^oW.tioii in KovaSpotia in 1863, the pro aflieod ou the suPject, «»»* -^•v^ h.^tinM have been ridiculous to i-aise or ^he l««tin^ acry.for.me^uva on -^-\^^^^^7£ ^^rSemrruSd on the election oi i^?i were altoEc'her refuted." Now, sir, who J!tr heax-d ^ch doctrine, ^ *r™"*°^ L orttat preached, before. Suppose some K ge^t^S^ ^«« to move in Parliament to t^e a Tv passed to legalise forgery And .\., it WW* opposed, a siimlar reply was ^Z, ^.rthatle people were aU in ti. W f ,« it w«i not niacle a party c>7, «*, :^*„f,r^f were given on the occasion, Tn«3t see tnai Til was no foundation Avhatever tor the ^0^ that ^— ;;-';i,f J^.rxrwe« No one ^^J^ ^^^JfddeU^ at Charlotte- Toin"' m^J^v'^B^ld wS t?Lt they wc^ not asked to come Legislatures ol_ of ConfederatK he is asta-ay, to ccotjn there wa opposed its pas Again, he s the great Betoi the cohstituen< uomber, he du to the people. means paralleJ Scotia," Eshe to the people, islature might fcdemtion A' ctep taken by ratiou had be oftai-iffsi, rai horn 10 to NTova Scotia_ was proporti first step, ev taken consul 1 wonder il stamp act, & Nova Scotii House by tl determined ing up the < ry." Gran not bo an i for -t ; the would bo 11 us into Co T^ere the come in c( way to thi one other I have do incmnben measure rial Parli bring oui should pi that I*Ir. and deni made us in favor of the L h^ard tc fore, go unwort shows t strong coino I words iLS lool or twc fiiendf diers- frporto heve e shouli just i 'peopl us Bt ligati iuibr II nd < fy til 1 •-.!*-; IJIU. eity Suvt OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 249 observa- ley as tie- ommpns. ee things, ipudence. mt. griey- iie ipeai'*. ose griev- lie threat- 1 to com- 1. I would referring that I de- bo let the east those had an ch itself, jeivcd at 3r, I fear peraiittcd 10 Colonial 1 Ainenca Mr. Bright re into the ierley said: |0. startling e aU'ongest to assent to ; would ask be anything 1 the peofilB grievances, hat the peo- lat tlieyai-e to bo known I if she has some future lat it will ba i. the Impe- lur wrongs? at the gen- 863, the pro- a of the Pro- on cry. But t of the elec- he Provinc© parties were fore it would the hustings tlicy were all narks oftlie e election of !^ow, sir, who 1 arrant non- Inppose some Parliament to "orgery. And ar reply wai blU in iiivor of r at ihe elec- hooted out of s: " Tlie dele- any one who and ball that mvwt see tliat rtever for the anadians wei* •a at Charlotte- , they wow not Tip savs that all the a^ked to com^theg. He %^d ,^^ Act Legislatures of tho ^^°: w'. Heve again if ^Confederation unanimo^^^^^^^^^ X^^i 'Z l" c^Bid Ae n^inority who opi>o8ed its Passof •.,^, -^i^. Howe passed ^Again, h« ^J'ii:uoffovaScotia,reduring the great BefonnBiUotx ^^^^^ the w...le ,he constituencies by one ^ appeal i.amber,hcdidnoUhink«n ^^^ to the peope" ^^^^'.^ovm BUloflScyva meaaaa paraUeL H ^^^^^^^i prove acce;.table ccotia," cs he calls it, ^^^J'/i^gio^ of the Leg- to *e'peov>le, the J«?-rt rso with the Con- islaturc might repeal it^ ^oi .. ^ , fcdei-ation Act. ^gain J ^^^ contede- ctep taken by the Government ^fferences ratlu had been to ^v^eeP ^way ^^^^^^ ^^^^^ of tai-iffs, raising the^;^te ^^^.^^^ of coii-se irom 10 to 15 r«i ^ent , oy ^ .^,^ b^, and Nova Scotia consideiodhe^m ^^ th^t wasproportionably irntet«xL ^^^^ ^.^dbeen firstitep, every- smglcm^^^^^ >;ova Scotaa.'' taken "O'^'l ^f ^^^r ne^vspupers, passing a I wonder it ta^mg "^^ Jj^^^j^^ the mt^n-csts ol kmpact,&c.,wa8 co"siU^^^^^^^ implored the Nova Scotia ? '' I^.^. ^^^J s, ow '^^^"^''^ '"•''"*' House by ^^^'l f^'^StUie Colonists by bnng- det^rmined °«V^°'^" a commission of cnqm- iiig up the question on a con ,^^ '^>. Grantmg a commission ^^ ^^^^ ^^^ riot be an msal"' to >'0%a a (jp^nadians who ?or -t ; tl^««fr;.Ue very purti««^^°'^^"^f ^ wouldbo insulted the very pu ^^ ^^^o,,. tlmt us into Conlcdem ion aU &o^ 8 ^^^.^ geotia 4ere the i^^eres^ of Uma J g,,,, come in contaxit, hose^o^ ti ^^^^^ ^-ay to the to™^«;:,„S Adderley, and t.-cn one other extract 1. om ^l^- ^ ^ .< jt was now I have done w th hj^^ "^^f ^o sec that the incumbent on tt>cGover»me^^^^^ ^^. measure passed ^;> ^he a ^.^^^ ^^ ^d o in favor of coercion , but o' distinctly oi the Delegates I learn that g^; ^^.,,i_ ^lere- Vard to make tVic f«"\\\?"- ^iu-st, that he is foS goes to prove t-'o thmgs l ^^ ,^^^^^^^^^^ ^, unworthy l"?.;u°fKveat BriUun ^as so shows that the f«ehng m ^^.^^^ forced to ; rong against c«f "^ ^Vte either usee' the come out and deny tU.t .^,,_ ^ow let words or intended to «; J ;„„ fo, a moniemt itslookatl-hwmattei jcx ^^^ Canadian or two. Do Mr. Addui^^i f ^rftish sol- fiiends expect to make Uitchers^^^^^ ^ ^ diers-the soldiers ol libci y . ^^..^,,,13 fSom? DolUH^'^l^:!.r'rnrot/-ct them, '.ent here - P-teet - f«>m^^^^ knowledge, one common m.gm ^^^^.y^^. worshipped m *^° Sf British soldier who lieve that there is a «nf e ^^' regiment he w^i^d disgrace ^^tTSj^e -i;, . .aiciv ob MritiBh M.ldle.. '"•'\,T:"tnd Er God, and hgations to thc"-,^-"" ' ■ li il of th-ir kind i.tbnie their h'>"£ '" .Nova Scotia, to grni- „„d connding h'-otla •« " ^ ^^ , ^^,e\y 32 powt:i=. been used, only to give ^^een's name h^ J^f^^tall real power is bmdingtoiwtohoaa, ^^^^^^ ^d re- vested in tlie^Dommion r ^^ ^^^^ ^^ vernment. I "K^e of Commons against 19 members m the Hou'eo t .^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ 147 Canadians. '^"^ 12^K^^ reflection, pei;- Any person can, on a mom ^ ^^^^j^^ ceive that no country placcu 1 . ^ can lie ^-^d to be ftee- i oPl ^^d by the the Nova Scotia f "^^^^^^ „o'"in'^^°" °' ^'^" Govcrnor-Genend w^hont n ^^^^^^. ^ o, commcndauon hy ^^^^orbdo not and wiU not Legislature; «nd l-heretore ^^,^ ^ i„ proWy'^'^r^.^'^"*'^! o^^^^^^^ it, heeausethc 'of this Province. I ^ pointed by the Licut.-Governors a e not 1 1 ^^.^^or-Gen- Quecn,a»formerly,birtby tn ^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^ eral, whose dependents tuej between Impose it, hccai^c °1 the Jhtu .^^^^^_ Canadian and Nova » ^^mifectures, &c^ their commerce twncrii^, ^^ Canada is so Se Dominion ^^r h«"^^"\\ gudi matters with pSominant, >- 11 jhr^^* "^^rand to the.preju- l view to Canadian mteres , ^^^ ^ dlle of those of Nova S.^o^;f^. p^^^^fflee Light cause all otficers of Ke^^^';' „, Nova Scotta. lUses, nn Judges oCcmrt^ ^^^ ^^^^„.„t I and all other Dominion on ^ ^ „omma- S Dominion Covermnent ;j:;^ ooyenmumt. , i^n or approval hyN"J a la^^s of this Le- \ onpose it, because tne w Dominion Go- Sure ^nust be re.i^ij^y «^^^^^^ ^ Comment; and locid taxaU.^^ ^^ ^^^^^ p„. vy by orfr"'.r[o^pSe it. because the Do- liiiiuon la-^'^- — 250 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS «>inion Parliament has taken control of our "Z'Zl syt^xn. The Dominion notes are SM tender for payments the same as eold and silver, but Uie notes of the llovm Si B^ks have not that advantage, and therc- £ th^Dominion not39 ^vill lessen the cu-cu- iation and probably eventually altogether su^ nersede and destroy the paper cuiTency of the ^K^ncial Banks. ^ThisVillbe one more^f , «w injuries to Nova ScoUa from ^°"/''f„ve tdon The Dominion notes should not have been made a legal tender. Even the notes of SeB^nk of England, the best paper ^.urr^ncy in the world, are not in many cases, if at aU, a Wd tender in place of the standard coins. I on-oose U becaiL the Confedemtion act pro- vKor'aCom-tofAppealat Otta.va Avhich i another mode of benefitting the "ch man, who alone could make use of such a tnbunal. Se foSng reasons, and many othei-s, show SitSsc'otia's interests and freedom w^^^^^^^ ftlwavs be as they are now, subject to the m ui S power of Canada. No alteration m the JS of the act would secure the righ s, hber- rrd interests of Nova Seotia ^vJde Jhe re- presentation in the Dominion Parliament ic rnninsi as it is. R ""eal, therelore, is tue oniy mode fOT he reUei and freedom of Nova Sco- to But I oppose Confederation for another "™^ f nd^t"^ rrA^evTtos; Sly t 'i th^e"' a1 n-Sng of Confederation ijLxation. And I sWd like the i euple of Nova Scotia to ponder ov^i and QonsiQci it well I do not think the people o Nova Sco- tia have any desire, if they are not ckiven to it, to sepamte from Bntam. ■Now sir. in the House ol Loids .t ^^a^ onenlv stated that Confederation was looked wSEtit, »d a, a f'XS "SrtTa ° U,e l\.t»» Mependenoe oI ,»,f' »« ^ .^» " iZ^^iS a view to a -parution -^^^^^^^ ■Pmnirp » This appeal's to be pieuy puim jTaCg, and --'not con^dicted ^y any KSrS ^r^afly^^Sroi o^eSing Sa ot' the CO onies, better far to say so at once rndLiSit us t« elect for oui-selves, and not t''^^v"';It of Confedimtion created a feeling true, nineteen-twentieths of Jio P^OP^" j^„ NovaScoUa are w^°«^a^'0"''*^;„„ "^.'^'N^va ever beard of a disloyal man being m Nova slSia previous to CoaledevaUou. It w im- ported that Mr. Sanfield MacDonald, when recently in this city, stated tiiat if the people ^r Nova Scotia were anxious for annexation oliey should unanimously agree to Contedera- tion for he beUeved that Confederation, sooner or later, led them into connection with the United States. ' ^ Mr. Blanchakd.— I would like to hear the authority for such a statement. Dr. Murray.— I give it as a common re- port, and one which I have cveiy reason to be- lieve is con-eot. Now, we should clearly un- derstand the position in which we are placed. Here ia an attempt made to build up an inde- pendent power by coereing Nova Scotia into it, and keeping lier there against her will. It has been said that Great Britain wishes to get rid of these colonies on account of the ex- pense they entail upon her. If that were so, then we could not prevent annexation. But 1 must confess, Mr. Speaker, I am not yet pre- pared to give up my loyalty, even alter all that has been done. I was born aiid would wish to die under the British flag. But then no attempt must be made to coerce us into a Confederation that, we detest. We must have our liberty, our freedom, our rights restored to lis, and that very speedily, or else the loyalty of evciy man, worthy the name ot Nova nico- tian, wiU bo a thing of the past. Indifference to the rights and feeUngs of the colonists, and the attempt made to caiTy out coercive mea- sures were the very meiins which, when used in Canada, led Lower Canada to rebel and caused a great deal of bloodshed there. A^ow me to read a short extract from a speech deb- vcred bv I-ord Brougham at that time when coercive measures were proposed. Lord Brougham said; "they set all considera- tion of sound policy, of generosity, and ot jiis- Uoe at defiance; lu-o wholly subversive oi the fundamental principle of the Bntish constitu- tion, that no part of the taxes levied on the people shaU be applied to any pmiwsc »vhat- ever without Uie consent of the Representa- tives in Parliament." I maintain that this i=; the vei-y position in wliich we are placed. Can tax us as much as she pleases, lor we have nr st tliat the su have saiu, under the ] to forbear to be a vir cHiTied ou will be coi uient of What is ti firm and < nmnding OF THE HOUSE OP A;.i3EMBLY. 251 )nald, -when if the people annexation » Confedera- ation, sooner ion with the e to hear the common re- reason to be- d clearly un- re are placed. up an inde- ■a Scotia into i her will. It vLshes to get t of the ex- that were so, ation. But 1 1 not yet pi-e- even alter all n and would T. But then •ce us into a We muat have its restored to Isc the loyalty of Nova Sco- Indifference ! colonists, and , coercive mea- h, when used to rebel and there. Al^ow a speech deli- lat time when )posed. Lord all considera- ity, and of jus- bversive of the ritish constitu- 8 levied on the puiiiosc >vhat- ho Kepresentft- nin that thi'=< is^ wo are placed, ses, for we have ing in a helpless aunions. Lord sely resembling ted the United s their origin in pport fi'om ren- ous contrast to only defence ol I, and so justly le Imperial Par- aftaire of the ■asy to imagine he American or pire should con , without dniw- jreditable to the and injurious te when they nmrk we n\pet to six ts of a n^niote Farliament, ami ciiicCiiS 116""!*!' S3 heard by their )n will assuredly libly find it« way cal fears, among thoHc whoso a while all men l'^'^''^''""' "\ L" f^ '^ l„ve found |l'««'t',^,f,^t but remote Pro- coui-se towards an ""PO^ant out; v-ince, which 'Z^^^'" /^/j^'^^^ ,/m'osT incon- suffer to be P"'--''f f. ftHrn'tSTi^ffdom, ^^ .iderable borough the appeal I by upwards nimission of >lve8 the re- ernment of isuming the of gari-isou- eai", hear.") n's Confeder- i^e have not ' nation" of i shown the t " Skeleton [cGee aptly mceraed, so appeared to lie the policy ?.vj single act ir of Nova piuiiament — a necessary "ei-ent tarili's and to pass feet of i«is- tift from 10 * 'in,« fears of the federation p"t to 15 per cent. i»«' f^^^^^e undue taxation forward by Nova Scotia we^u .,ovei-nment ; itnd a force put upon theu local- ^ ^^^^^ that their -'-/-^^J^.^^t andC tli pvo- larger interests V^^^"*"*^' , '^i override the tective policy o^! <;'^-f ^-^a Lot Iv. Jiut Hce free trade policy «^ ^^^^^'^ftUo li.^t acU* of wlmt had been done. O"'^ "J;^ t^^^ off the tho Dominion parliament wa. to WK autie- on tlour, ^^"'^^^^X. educed, which The duties on sugar- ^^^^« ^^ ition of the In- had drawn to Nova Scotia a pon _^ diau trade (hear, heai-). «« ""^ ^,.,^ ^o show one after -^^^'^ ^^^^"^.^ a slight thai, far Irom ^''l!^^^'J'^l\^l^A i"«lly ^'^ power in the new parimnieut^tua ,^^ ^^^ ,ower. SO ^^^'^^^^^J'^^.^Jm of No- Cuuada overndinj; ^^'^ J" ;^ j\'j'j,^,e; for the pav- va Scotia the reverse w.^ the ca. , ^^ _^^,^^^^ liument had ,«'^^'^'='^tSna- levenuo from direct taxation, -^ -^^-^rSn o/'anacla with No- tax»Uon,.sothattheum provinces were va Scotia and the *l^™"^Vcting protective benefitting this ««""^^T Jf^f free tmde.- The Canada with tlie P^-^f Pf °4inW not that exer- '•dominaut i^A^'-^f ^'l^.^'eountn'. Oiu- mem- cisedby the people otU^«count'p^^^^^ ^^^.^^^^ bei-s were utterly powcuess a ^.^^^^ ^^,^^ ^^ tind of boon, i^«'"S fi^ £. Adderley's free tilteen per cent. 1^ ^h^^ ^^^^ ^,f u. But, «n-, trade pohcy we ;j^f^"? J^^^^t be further in- thereisnodoubtthedutu-s^ ^^^^ ^^ creasedtotwentyor tv^uitynv 1 ^_^^^ was formerly the c««e ^'^^ cama ^^^^ ^^^^^ not be expected to «^>^^ "P^"" '^cuhirly U' the gp^nt in past y^'^^' "^.^^ [« be built. The tortifieations spoken oiJ^^J^^^^^ , eon- remo% ul ot the c^cy "" . ^Hitp thev had cession to New Bruuswick jl-ie tl^ y ^^.^ been previoualy ^"^> j „,ost streuous be remembered that t^ie ^^^^^^ ^, eftoits to remove th^ ^^^^ ^^,,iv^ of. that Ottawa by '' «,,„/bv ou^- membei-s, m the Province, supported uy ""^ repeated early part of the B-«-,^^en.^o^^, ^ , tUvisions, Mr. •'■itt«y' ."J; ,,';,,.„i.s su\ e one, tor was deserted by aU l'^^^,"^."" '*^^^\ce been found whom a snug vetu;ement has s-c^ ^^^ m tho post olhce.ihe duty ^^^^^. ,be from being.reduced IS Uagc J ^^^,^ ^^^^^^ duty on v^^f.'^fZ^':'Z Muscavadoe., for- per lb., now It IS three, on ^.jji-ics from merly »1.50 per OO^'^^ji^ig' grades, to §,-2.25 about *1.60, on low i^b""^S^^^^^ in the in- to *'2.50.ongi-ocery qu^J ;:;^ ^. Montreal the terest of the ^ef thy rtnnu'« ^^^.j^^„_^j^ly duty on Melado has ^^^' '^^\,,m.% whiO* Thus you will see the hnei i ^^ ,^ ^^^ we are t^^c^'^tomed to ust ^.^^^d out, aiid our merchants wiu ^^^^^ ^^^^^ to i»n^ , ^'^Lfo the '^'iVnei., and they to Canada to mcHI to uio ^^^^^ ^.^^^^,,^^1 will supply our "'^^'[,Ye^i^,i„ge will operate article. On , niola^-B thj Uui S^^^^_ ^^^^ veiT unequally, ^^''^'^^tii^ ^ ^ our duty Ltlely tro-/-™' e cen^ per gaUon on wasformoily fa>^'=d at me^ jji^^^ t^,jff ^ hU qualities, the duty ' V t ';- ^ j,^- to Unv now made to vunge om «^^,\. . ,vas it po«. cenU per gallon, ^^^''^.^i^ tell the liv>use «,v,l« the hen. ge»tleman t^ou _^ ^^^^^^ ^.^^. ^ ihat he gi-aveiy ^^'^^^'g^otia to remain per- ^^rd^Sedrmlt. neighbor, it was clear one of three tl^g--:;JJ'K;Jp-t itmust.rest upon t^ ^-'^n" t r'"" "^ anddefence-and l^''*'* ,7, ' .^.^y^nt moment House that tliei. were ajt-^^^^^^^^^ ,„p,,rted 12,000 regu ar troops n inc ._^^. out of the funds ot tl"^ «"J f ' ^,,tiJ„,tm said, union •■»'»;6"»"S,fi„Uraatio» ot.uppo.l and defence. ^^-^^.^^^V^^^^^^^^^^^ of home, aa cheaply here, ^^f "» tj3" u > ^^ ^.^.^ ^■, in any other part ohti iJou ^^^^^^^i^^ ^^ o remember that J" » f ^ ^ ^,^^^ ^^^^ in tin. neighboring Repnbhc,^.^^^^^ ^,^^.^.,. eunnent ^"iil."*:^ t^^^^ and t'hut subsequently itv of deleudino Uiuada iir^i Commons, a'debate eain..^ oti m the HoiYe o^ ^ .j^^^ and I believe it ,^"^^^„fX ground that Can- the gentlemaii ^v'- J^^j^jSly^'defended against ada could not be ««\°^?"\ J ^j,^,^ „, ,n;Uion ot the United States w ^^^^^'^ ^^ ai'gument. u.en ""der arms) tod U c bcstot ^^^^^^^^^^^ I camiot hut thndv thLS ua „ ,^y do with h>ii-i-yi?g,"^^'\lp't nerhaps desiro which the «"ti«h Gove^e^^^';^^^ ^^^^ ^^ to be in a position t lat uiey neighbor ; compeUed to delend it '^an^t -^<^ ^^^,^^^^^ ,^, and now, sir, 1 ^^^^" '^.^^td so heavily, should the Dominion, now taxed ^^^^^ ^^ farther o^■el■load themselves ^^,^^68, build lortiii«ftions unde the^e ^^^.^ y^^. which niav be ^^ f^^ ^^'^'^^J^'' strongly on the erui gw^tlemen have spoken ^^^^.^^u^w- despatches relauve top ecede^ ^^.^^ ^^^^^ ance of bdls, and / ^^^^^^^^^n^e a Governor We have now "\}'»fi,4'v '^^spect, and is de- whom we siiy Mui tho haL inanaged t« servedly popu ar, ^'^fJ^^A^^edeMited event, and please aa parues, ^"\ )»P'^^,t "rdent desii-e u, \vho has '^iwayseyieed a most ^ ^^^ promote the best >"teiests o^ t. ^^ ^^ Vhois nowcompetoly «hmn° ^^^^^^. functions he toiler ypos«^^ea ^^^^^.^^^ ^ sor must bo styled f^;^* ^Xe,^on. If not f,ar, be a very diHerent k^nd ot V^'^^ ,^ out of order, would aj. U^e C,o^ ^^ ^^^ biy upon the tab eot tins U > ^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^,^^^ commission, th-^t ,^^^- " ; ^ j Canadians came ^,,._ We are told tl at ^^^^ ^^^^e such bevetomake overmes to u^^ Have they • concessions a« would leconcueu ^.^^^ ^^.^ evinced imy J^J^^^'^'^Zi^on Goveriflnent Now, the fai-st act tiiL t^o «» ^^^^,,q did, when they learned thatj^ b^ ^^ a Delegation, was to J >pa^^c n ^^^^^^ ^^^._ England 10 oppose tlun 1, " ,^._the veiy veisally detested "' ,\ ^/"Ssthat a step prime mover ot the sc emu ^ NV^ jj^legates •ulcuhit^d to conciliate u^- ^ ^,^ ^^^. knew very we" t:he » .''^'^"^,^^ ,^^^^^^^^ tend against 111 1'^''^^"^ ;.'^;^,„„",,ons in our favoi^ spoke in the House o <^o^^^^ ,, speech stated afterwards tW ^-^- ^^, .^,^,pper was almost word 01 ^ 01^ ^^ j.^^j^ ^„^bt, said to him, and the « ^^ / . ^^Uament was that wherever a ^^"^ \'^'-[ "^^ Dr. Tnpper got known to be I^^^^^^^^^if .^,^i endeavored to access to hmi. '^^TT' The Canadians were l-^^^i^r.r'her^b/the colonial S<^^^^^ ^^y:^ld;avor to get ub 10 «.cept ^ -w- 254 DEBATES AND PR0CEEDIN09 ■4 tion. Suppose we did, could we afterwards go to the BritiBh Government and ask for redress? No ; we would be entirely in their hands for all time to come. The people of thii Province Oi>'n between four and live hundred thousand tons of shipping, carrying freight to all parts of tliu world, and arc now protected by British Con- suls, who see that their interests are cared for. Tiiese Consuls represent a nation whose influ- ence is all potent ; but let this " ni!W nation " be set up, and its Consuls would not bring re- spect to their ofltice but would be mere men of straw. Something has been said in this debate about the Kociprocity Treaty. I think Dr. Murray proved last winter that it was mainly owing t« the jietion of Canada that it wa.s abrogated. Tho hon. niombei- for Inverness has never suc- cessfully coinbatted the argument. Mr. Blaxcuaud. — I sliowed its fallacy six mouths ago. Mr. NoRTHiTP. — Perhaps so. I never heard of it. I contend, that so far as the Maintinu! Provinces are concerned, we would have had reciprocity ere now had we been ' e ot Cnna- diuii influence. I have in my hand a coii-e- ispondenee which 1 think is very conclusive on this point, and a.sk permission to read it. I uow reiui from a letter of Sir F. Biuce to LordMonek: W/SHINGTON, 5th June, 1866. My Lord, — I iiave had a conversation with Mr. Morrill, Chairman of the committee on Ways and Means, at Mr. Seward's request, with a A-iew of such a reduction of duty on fish, or its total abolition, as would enable the fishermen of the Nortli American provinces to frequent witli their cargoes the ports of the United States. I found Mr. Morrill disposed to be eonti ited with a ten per cent, duty, which he oonsidei-s necessary to compensate for the heavy taxes imposed on articles used by the United States fishermen. He was also >villing to accept the fifty cents duty on American fisliing vessels per ton. But he stated that the fifty cents license should gain admission to the iishii grounds of all tho provmces, and tliat it would be too heavy a burden were each province to impose a similar tonnage duty as a condition for fishing within its waters. Indeed he seem- ed hopeless of carrying a reduced duty through Congress \jnless tliis aiiungemeut could be made. I should like to know froni your Lord- ship whether such an arrangement would be agreed to by the provmoes generally. The Tarift' Bill comes on, 1 believe, this week. ] have, &c., (Signed) Fkederick Buuck. Now what is the answer to this compara- tively liberal olTer made by the government of the IJnited States ? Lord Monck, under date of Ottawa, 19th June, 1866, by the advice of his Executive Council, approves and transmits the report to Sir F. Bi-uce, from which tlie fol- lowing is uu extract : " The Mhiister of Finance recommends that His Excellency Sir Frederick Bruce be in- formed limt Ciinada. would uot be prepared, to enter into any engagement with the United States, relative to the rights of American fishermen to fish in Canadian waters, if such an arrangement were only connected with the q.a.stion of dnties to be levied by tJie United States upon Pi-ovincial caught fish. That Canada will be prepared to consider the liropriety of making concessions of the right of fishing in her own v\ steiij, in connection with tlie wliolo siihj(!ct of the conuncrcial relations between tin' two countries, but slie could not consent to come under any stipulations with regard to the fisheries, apart from an agree- ment upon the other points covered by the late Reciprocity 'V- aty," You see by this that the Ameri ans wore willing to ullow our fish to enter at a duty of 10 I rceii., but they were not desiroai of luuiug anything to do with Canada. Canada, however, had full control of us, and would not agree to su. h an uiTangement which would simt out her products. The argument of the Americans seemed fair enough — that the American fisliermen had to pay a duty on salt, and other articles used by them, and therefore it was necassary to impose a small duty to put that class on a fair footing. Otherwise, they contended, tho tnide would uot be reciprtwal. What !i boon would it have been had we had this trade ere this ? We all know the disti-ess that was prevalent among om- fishermen dm'- ing the past winter. 'J'here have been many parties l<^) whom we were obliged to send pro- \'isions to keep them alive ; who, had their fish not been I axed in the States, would with the difl'erence of price have been enabled to have got bread for their families, and thereby avoided the Imm'^'' on their manhood suftered, and had the nencan government been met in a I roper spirit, we should likely very soon have hud a renewal of the treaty, embracing almost every article desired. Nova Scotia at this moment, as we all know, is in a most unsatisfactory position. The cir- culation of money is not perhaps more tlian a third of what is was three yeara ago, and this, I think, is in a great measure owuig to Confe- deration, because persons who have means are not disposed to embark in any adventure, feel- ing distrustful of the future. In viewing the resources of other countries during my recent visit to Europe, I thought a gi-eat deal about Nova Scotia, and was led to belie%'e that she will compare favorably with any other coun- try, when we take into account her mines and uunerals, her fisheries, and her marine. The amount of money brought into tho countiy as the earnings of her ships is very large, and in addition to the resources which I have named, we have agricultural products, lumber and plaister. If Nova Scotia were then in a posi- tion to manage her resources no country could have better chancer of prosperity. If we look at Belgiuiii, already successfully competing with England in some of her manufactures, we see what may be accompUshed by a nation go- verning itself", and managing its resources to the best advantage. An old gentleman ac- companied me in a part of my journey, who had been residing for fifty years in the United States, and who went to visit Germany, his native countiy. He said that he found there that in the small states which were obliged to contribute to the lai-gc ones, the people were so poor that he was heartsickened and he was glad to return. Altliough the crops were good, the taxation waa so ^oppressive that the fai-m- OF THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 255 «r« had to hand them all over to meet their Tbte Ifenrthatsomethmglikc thk will be the result of Confcdemtion. Dming my torn - rnaSthrough twelve counties of Ire and. LkI of course took every 0?!-^^^^ "*.«<„ rinff information, ^^ot a man did 1 speak to TXdZt feel that an injurj- h"!^ ^een done toWs countiT bv England. "A lellovv fcehng SSfi U8 ^vondrous kind," and I conld nut Spieling a sympathy with Ihat people I vTent into fome of their hut. and stood on then' Tarthen flooi-s, and asked why the people were ?n that condition V The answer was mvainably the Tvme that the union was the cause ol al the™ I al.o went into the Parliament houBe7n Dublin, and there I saw the money ch^era-and n.y mind reverted back to the tin^when a Canadia^i Bank had money ehau- S in this building. I hope wo will never !^c the time when this Parliament house wll to converted to such a use. Mr. Bright, in re- ferStotiie injustice of England to Ireland, ;Jv« " We ask forgiveness of Ireland, and pro- S iusticeon hepartof^^gl^'"!-" ButI tear fh^t we sh^l never have justice done to us from Sada. her necessities -- «« ^^f ^J'^^^^ sSoWeCg^r o^rd ^^^]^ Ken up morfadministrations than al^othe^ public mattci-s put together and I think ii S be tound that Nova Scotia ^vill break up ^ore Dominion governments than any oth«^ nnestion I may say in conclusion, that 1 hope Te^S yet regain our resources, and become r« there is every reason to expect, one ot the mo?t weSthy and independent eountnes on the face of the earth. RKl'LY OF MR. BLANCHAKU. Ml. Blanchard then rose and said : 1 am Ml. BLANCHAKU uicn iwov c„ •>• ■ once more called upon to address tlm. House under circumstances which I hope will nevu ^ct again, -1^- ^ ^^all be obliged o speak on any question of importance. I ^^'^ ^^'|^" uooTto meet an array of some sixtoen gentle- men who have occupied the Pf^ fortnight wv, their sneeohes. 1 have sat here as pa- Slfw man could and l«tened to six- ?een gentlem«« coming up, one aiter the oihev Lid launching their eloquence at me. One iSon, however, is that I am m very good :on^tfy--ith the Duke of Buckingliani Mr. Arlrlerlev Lord Carnarvon, and Dr. luppei. ffloSieantosnythnt there >vaB anything PC wnal or offensive in their remarks. Having ^o^the tine-edge off m the winter session, and havng come here in the balmy summer, gen- flemen feel more cUsposed to spare a man who, !S? Bee is not after all as bad as he was re- ^resente'd^^ These sixtoen gentlemen have S^ 1 to a great variety of subjecW, we have Swhakespeare, and even the Bible quote All the despatches for yeai-s past have been hrmiLdit forward; we have had the wrongs ol Sd detailed to us ; we have been taken to the Red Sea and the River Jordan wc ha^e a68--who only spoke once, Now these gomic men not satisfied with referring to such au- Sties, have even condescended to quote me, Sn doing so have given me ^^^^^_ plaint. I read from the speeches of the Attor 'uey Genend in the autli(,nzed report of the dobates of this House, bearing the s>gnatore of official reporter. Yet I have been told that ttered these sentiments as my own. 1 ha\ o , on told that the resolution was never mtro- (luced into the House as I have quoted it; yet I took it from the best authority that I could fin?! When I suited that the Attorney Genc^ ra! said that the true exponent ot the wll of t epeopl.-was the Legislature, I was told by the ion. member for Colchester that ha opi^ iu.n was het«mdox. If it be so, kt Iheso gentlemen talk to their own leader, and not to me I only quoted his statement. I am pre- paid now as then to defend the Attorney Cieralonthis pouit. I say that under the British Constitution such an idea, as going to the poUs to enquire what the wishes ot th« people may be, is entirely unheard ot I praved kist whiter to a demonstration-tliat it was unconstitutional and unpree^edented tor a government, able to carry on the busme^ ol Uie country, having a majority on every si^- ject to apiuid to the people on any great que>- ^Tam told that tliis is a case needing no pre- cedent that it is of too monstrous a chamctor to require anv. The hon. member for Colches- ter declared that if I were to utter such a doc- rine hi the face of the people, I .would be car- ried home feet foremost. Even if I' ^7^*", ""«^ ne heterodox opinions, let him not slander the people The hon. member for Colchester (Mr. ChSei-s) yesterday expreR^ed anne^xation ShneTts most boldly, yet am I to te 1 him, as his coUeague stated, that the people o hi.s county would do him pei-sonal injury if ho sho d presume to repeat his declaration m Uc presence ? No ; the peace loving peoj^le of Colchester would listen to him patiently. even though, as I am sure they would, abhor ^Th^^n told that when I agreed to the doctrine of Legislative Union, I was advocating S was most obnoxious. Now I "hall >iot he content with the remarks of the hon. A ty GeS in 1854 ; I shall give what he said last '''" The'provinces have now four governments instead of three. If they were really united "hev woiilct bo stronger, inasmuch as he whole is stronger than the parts, they would have one lead, one kgislaiure, one revenue, one set of 'Tlon "iSf GBN.-Tliat was always my 3^-^i™3^^ivr2^, S^^iriSt^l^cTwiS ^^9:srfi^gi^-eSS,ts wmild wf; o' " the Legislature altogether? ,. e fMMdl the Previnces, one tar.l1, one sot ot laws one govenmient. Now the complamt ,s ZtaU our rights and privileges have been Sen awa" fro^i us-that this Leg^^Hiture haa o,ver?. How ould it bo SAt'yB^- t4" A^niey General advo I 256 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS 'k * cfttps •' ^'ow we have many importajit dutios to dischurge-we have the luU contrc. ot the LTrelalfve to civil rights. We can. pa.^ any law to-morrow with regiiid to the civjl nght. of the people, by which the .-ourts of this conn- trv wUl be bound. Let mo not ho tola thnt, Legislative Union would not deprive us ol sucli privileges, ^'o one pretends '. say that th-. present system is a union pertect and complete, but I hope in the course of time, il Iliv') to a Eood old nge, to see the Legislative L nion ol which the Attorney General so highly uppi-oves. ' In 1854 the lion, gentleman told us that a Legislature compo8(-d of lifty-five men was naStconten-.ptibl.Nand I do not know but he was right. ^Vhen we can sweep away all th- local Wislatures, and have nil our atTaire man- ■ aeedbv one leglslalure and govemmen,, we will have made great progres-s At present we have but "the skeleton ol the nation -a phnise of which the hon. member lor Halitax (Mr. Northup) evidently did not unders and the full foree. The United States when the.v started on their career, was but a "skeleton <.l a nation.- If we can put sinews iind muscles and flesh on the skeleton, wc shaU become a great nation. r,,„ ,„„> The hou. member for Annapolis (Jlr. Iroop took occasion to say that I had laboured, an. -,trugglM through a four houiB' speech, and oongSitulated me on having succcostnUy pa.'rt^- ed through the Ihroes It was ""lortunate that the lion, member should have ruade that remark in the commencement ot his speech. With 35 gentlemen opposed to me it might he expected that I should occupy a little longer tiine than others. At all events, I must giy.-, my congratulations to tlie hon. member tor Annapolis that he managed to get rid ot the iucubus which was weighing hiui dov/u, y, half an hour longer than myself. He should leai-n U> practice what he preaches, and w;. imitate himself that which he so severely re- proved in mo. Had my speech been srch a failure as he dcclarexl, tliere would .lave ncei. uo necessity for him to have struggled and Tvorried, and plodded through a lour-and-a-huU hours- spce<.h, containing the most dreary pla- titudes that I was over cumpelled to listen to- then to be followed by some sixteen others, many of them occupj-ing nearly as much tmie as himself. I will give you a quoUitiou. trom Shakespeare, Nvhicli I think most accurately describes the speeches dehvered m rei^ly to """They spoke an iiifinito deal of nothing. Their reasons luo two grains of wheat hid lu two bushels of chalV; you se.'k all day ere you find them, and when you have them Ihe.^ le not wcnth the search." , ,i ,. Now I will endeavour to d.stourse wheUiei or not there was any wheat among tlie abun fbinee of chaft- in tliat speech w uei it txx.k four hours and a half to deliver. I hud said, in the opening of the sessi.m, when a very nand^y pamhv resol-.itiou was introduced that it was not worth my while "kKlung against the pHcks--in other words, bringing d<,wn upon nyseU'lhewratiiof the House by debating ....,]■.. n-.'iulion. Tasked for the Ke|!ort ol tlie i)'eleg,ites— for tho opinion of the Englisii Counsel, and as respects tlio last, i was told that it was none of my business— m laet, it was act admitted Uiat thero yaxa such an opmion, and I was charged with believing general ru- mour in connection with which the Attorney General gave nie and the house a veiy stale and flat joke. Subsequently, however, the Re- pf)rt of the I>elegates, and even the opmion nienUoned, were laid before us, not because the Attorney Genenil wished to do so, but because 1 presume his coUeeguea dare not refuse it. Xow 1 am told that 1 should not kick against such an ai-ray of doenments. It is urged m the organs of the government that I have been taking up the time of the House unnecessarily, hut I have only taken four hours to sixty or more houre occupied by gentlemen on these resolutions. Certainly there must have been something moi'e than'" platitudes" in what I said, since gentlemen consumed so much time in answerhig me. . The hon. member for Pictou took especial notice of my hon. friend from Cumberland (Mr. Pineo) and I tliink that tho latter's speech, when placed alongside those of others, will have its proper effect for its clear and logical arguments, and for its manly and sensi- ble utterances. It is easy for the hon. mem- Iwr for Annapolis to swim with the tide, to sail before the wmd, and to float on, clieered liy his excited followers, but it is another thing to be placed in the situation in which I am, to stem the torrent of misrepresentations with Avhich it Lit attempted to crush me, and to have the pluck to do battle against such odds. It has even been hinted b«;cause I had stoted that it was hard to kick against the pricks, there- fore 1 had accepted the situation, and woeld no longer resist tliis Kepetd movement. Sir, 1 vould he a misei-ablo poltroon if I had, under these circumstances allowed these resolutions to ptuss sub site ntio— hovfRycv well such a course might have suited the tactics ot some. The hon. member for Annapolis indulged m a good deal of strong language, which it is hard- ly worth while noticing. He said that "a man was u coward and a ti-aitor who deserted his country in tho hour of her direct necessity." I am not aware that I have deserted my country — neiUier lia\c my constituents done so. It there are any persons who would de- sert their , country, they ai-e those, Uke the hon. member for Colchester (Mv. Chambei's) who would take " the liine with tho westward turning." Not to support and defend a mea- sure fraught with innumerable advantages to Nova Scotia, such as Union is, would he cowardice in mo., and 1 trust I shall never be amenable to such a charge in respect to that question; but to pursue that measure its the hon. gentleman has done, is indeed not only deserting but obstructing tlie best interests of Nova Scotia. Now the hon. mi.-mber has been aci-oss tlur ocean, on a most important mission, and should have been satisfied with the rapidi- ty of his promotion. He spok-e with an amount of exeiienient tlia, seemed rather to spiing from impulse than from a desii'e to wound any one's f-ehngs. He said that Eng- land had t'reated vis \n#1i "stupid indifl'erence" and " bunghng negieet." Giight such language tobeu.sedV Wliy, he hnnself told us a tew inoinents id'tertliat the delegates were received eveiywlierc with the most marked a.ttrntinn-- that "their case was most kmdly entertained; and yet he has used suoh language as I have quoted. Tho hou. member buys tliatho may OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 257 nernl ru- Attorney veiy stale )r, the Re- e opinion ccause the It because refuse it. ik against urged in have been iece«8arily, sixty or on these lave been n what I much time ik especial umberland lie latter's ) of others, clear and ' and sensi- hon. mem- he tide, tc» n, cheered other thing ■hich I am, ations with md to have 1 odds. It stated that icks, there- and world mont. Sir, . had, under resolutions ell such a ic9 of some, dulged in a h it is hard- hat "a man icserted his necessity." esertcd my tuents done o would dc- se, like the Chambere) 10 westward fend a mca- ivaiuflges to , would be dl never be pect to that asure as the ed not only interests of ber has been ant mission, h the rapidi- i-e with an jd rather to a desire to id thatEng- indifl'crence" ifh language )ld us a few ,'cre received ■] ntt4'T',tinn — entertained ; 50 as I have tiiathe may let the law point go; yet it was <^^^^^^ of great value laat winter. .Upon that point -tiie illegality and unconstitutionahty of the Act of Union-it was last winter contended 5ie whole question hingcd-let that point go __ns the hon. member says lie is content to^ and where is he ? Not a leg t-o stand on. He said that 1 belonged to a Protes""'^^,^^^'^^ >« Moustomed sometimes "to make the worst ^?S^«ie better reason." Why that remark cKhome equally to himseU- (the Atto-ey General) and the hon. member for Queen s. Now what is this law point ? f*„,„«^ We were told last winter by the Attorney General that we wei-e not, had not been, and ?evTwould be, confederated He argued tCt we were not confederated because the law had never been constitutionally based, and w^nS therefore binding ^Pon us Jm^t here complain that the report of the dekgatM. r^S^K the opinion of learned Enghsh CoS was not aid on the table before I commScrto speak; for the hon member for Queen's actually quoted from it, while i h^dneVerhadan opportunity of seeing it. I Jm Xwaa-e that tne report was ever put before the Convention recently hekl in this citv (Atty. Generd. It was not.) Mr. B. Stinued: Wh: -'^ ^^ rV'^'^TnL^Z was that Convention to ^rm ^ts opuuons. Now we learn, however, that the law oi the Attorney Genei-al was incorrect ; even the ^S^constitutional lawyer, the hon. mem- ber for Colchester, (Mr. Morrison) is at faidt- he who could teach the Duke of Buckingham in half an hour more constitutional law than ev?i Knew. How dare Sir RoundeU Palmer OTMr. Vernon Harcourt contradict the great coMtitutioi.el luminary, the hon member forSchestert If they had dared to assert Buch opinions before the hon. member, who would answer for the consequences : Mr. MORRISON -I would knock them %^' BLAKCHARD-Probably the hon. gen- tleman would wijh one of those magnificent Eterhis. (Laughter.) We are told that Sh Roundell Palmer'was the late Attorney General, and assisted in passmg the Coniedt ration act through Parhament. bo he was, S who selected him to give an opimon on the cSe of Nova Scotia? Why, the Delegates ?^mselves • they engaged the services o what Se^aSrt'was the best Counsel, and paid rtieKndsomelytoo; for I know fi-om my owT experience such men will not give an opinion under 100 guineas. Mr. RYERSON.-It's not worth It. Hon. SPEAKER.-AII0W me to,fy,?«i; hone the House will listen patiently to the \Zm!m^v, and not internipt him, as he has a. lone task before him. , Hon. Mr. Fltnn.-I am not aware, sir, that such an intimation is nece«iary. Hon. SPEAKER.-The hon. member miist excuse me U' I do not take his opinion. It is rnvdut^to preserve th^ honor and decorum Krs Houle, and when I fail thenit is for t HoZ to intimate that I am not equal to the '"iSrMf pTrNf-Whilst I know my duty Hon. ail. ^ ''.»""• _. T „l,..11 <:>-crr.roa« 111V iin a member ol the House, i ri.fS. -i^ — - - opinio^ freely. I may not know all the rules, but— 33 The SPEAKBR.-Then you should leam ^'^Hon Mr.FLTWN.-I will not allow you to inSXe with my rights, and I tajn the h^rty of saying that you have Irequent,, "" „^'!; with the debates of this House m a maimer that vou should not have done. Hon SPEAttBR.-I must call you to order at °"Mr. RTER80N.-I will have something to %?n°"sPEliER.-0rder,8ir. Mr.Blan^d I must ask you to have the g-Uenes claared, that we may settle this matter. Hon. Attornet Generat-.— I think it would be as well woiild ttie House ex^tlyun- derstand its duties in debate. Therule^ .' When any member intends to speak he must lise uncovered, and address himself to^e Speaker, and no member, whilst speaking will beinter^ipted by the Speaker or any other member, unless on a question of order Mr Blahchard resumed: Perhaps tins law point is of no consequence ; yet it ^f^^ this Legislature to pass resolutioas on the sub- ^ iect It was of sufficient consequence to re- •& that a delegation be.«ent acr^ the water, to obtain the opinions of t^ounsel on the subject, and by ^hom we are told that there '' is no limit to tl>e authon^r pi ^e Imperial Legislature over this Colony." we w^Sd that this was a ^P^troiis doctnne which would not be entertained ior a single moment. Do not gentlemen see that we aie "on in a father! house, hound to obey h» behests? England defends us, and whilst she mak^s us practically free, yet at the same tame Sie reserves for heielf certain rightaoverus. The hon. Attorney General even brought up a case last winter, which he declared to be actu- aUy in point, but he has been proved neverthe- lei entirely wrong. How long f^t since Ae British Housaof Commons passed Acta relative tolhiscounti^.? Does not the British Mer- chants' Shipping Act apply to us to a I'^ge ex tent? Only a few years ago the Bntish Pai- liament passed an act taxing our shippmg tor a Hghthouse at Cape Ra«e,, but whoever said that that act wiis unconstitutional ? Wh^re are we now? You have given up the law point, and have therefore come down to the naked facts respecting the benefits to be derived from Confederation. The hon. member says that the people of England have "ever had their attention caUed to this matter fairly, un- til he and the other delegates ^jt^d the moth- er country. What a compliment to Mi . Howe, MrAiin^d, and Mr. Hugh McDonald ! Yet Mr. Howe deluged England .sath pamphle te- the press was filled with articles on *e qu^- tion,-«till nothing waa done until the hon. member went across the water ! , In the course of my i-emarks, I warned the House, having made one mistake, not to he drawn into another. I spoke moderately, and vet I am visited with such a denunciation trom S hon. member as this: " Is tha. lion, gen- lloman the custodian of this House-the custo- dfano^ur rights and liberties? D<^b »'« SLto dictate to the members around these Sies?" Surely nothing that I saad called for such an ungenerous and unfair reply; mme was only the language ol ^aunon. x u-rOT dictated to the House; I wmply warned it. 268 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS -4- Then w« ar« told about " court drosses and S stumps." I wish that Nova Scotia would .how as many burnt stumpa as Canada. 1 have seen the stumps standing m the streets ot Canadian cities where, a few short years be- fore the lorest waved. I wish that our own couAtry would show a* many evidences ol rapid progress as I have seen m Canada. Then oomes the reference to court dresses. 1 presume the hon. member visited the court— Hon. Mr. Taoor.— I am happy to say I did " Mr Blanchakd.— It was a piece of marvel- lous neglect on the part of Her Majesty's nun- isteis that they should not have so honored a sentloman like the hon. member, clothed with the authority of the Legislature. Ihis is but another instance of the stupid indifterer.ce ot which he complained so severely. Why did he not have an opiwrtunity ot wearing the court dress of which he speaks so mounilnlly ? The hon. member referred to the powertul aid I had behind me, but I am not aAvaro ot any, except the justness of my cause, iho hon. c^ntleman is himself a member of the {,'ovem- men^, and therefore acquainted with all its secrets ; he has been across the A'dantic, and no doubt, Uke the hon. member for Hulilax stood on the mud llooi-s of the "poorlnsh." He referred to the wrongs of Ireland ; and certainly I think it is a gieat pity that the hon. member does not represent some Iiish consti- tuenoy, so that he might depict the gi-ievancea of that countoy in his elegant strain. IMo doubt, were it so, they would be recbessed im- mediately. The British PaiUament and people would then be favored with speeches— unhke th« one to which I now refer— containing som-ething more than chaff. Ho says that hud it not been for the sale on College Green we would not hear of such grievances as the liisli Church question. Is he so ignorant that he dont know tliat the EstabUshment existed long before the time referred to; the sale on Col- lege Green had notliuig more to do with the cstabUshment of the KngUsh Church in Ireland than it had with an established chiu^h m the moon. (Laughter.) Next we are told, it the people were not law-respecting, something ter- rible would have happened ere this. " It the sky were to faU we would catch larks." borne- times tliere is such a thing as telUng a people not to do something in such a manner as to induce them to do the vei-y reverse. Ihis reminds me of an anecdote of an Admiral who was i.bmt leaving this port some yejar ago The sails were all loosened, the anchor was ready to be heaved, the flag was hois .ed, and all the men were on board ; but, to the surprise of all, the Admiral suddenly ordered the sail* to be clewed up ; the men were all ordered aft, and the Admiral reterrcd to the fact tliat a saUor had been killed a few da> s previously in one of tlie upper streets and added : " N^w I am going to let 700 of you ashore ; I do.i't wish you to kick up a row ; don't puU down the house where your com- rade was killed ; at aU events you must all be on boaid by four o'clock, for we sail in the momine^." 'Phe result wa«. that not a stick ol the building was left standing. So tlie hon. member speaks a good deal Uke the Admiral. Be quiet, boys, don't do any harm. We had then a little anaexRtion sentiment from the hon. member for Annapolis— not, boldly !&• the statementa of the member for Coloha«t«r-- but ueverthelcaa it waa easy to see what ha meant when he said, " Our eyea will be turned ill another direction unless we got redreaa. In what direction? I» it "Eyea front," "Eyes left." No, "Eyea right," that is tha direction to which the hon. member would turn the attention of this battalion. Look to the " lane with the westward turning ;" that is what he means. He told us that Sir John A. Macdonald came here -n-ith corannssionB m his pocket. I am entirely ignorant of what the hon. member speaks about. Did Sir Jonn A. Macdonald come to the hon. member and offer him a judgeship, if he would accept '• the situation ?" That must have been the caae, or else he would not speak so confidently. Now, some remarks feU from one or two hon. members respecting what I said about Judge Johnston. I have aa much respect aa any one in tliis House for the Judiciary ot this counti-y, and would bo the last to bnng odium upon them. All I did, however, was to quota a gentleman who, bt'fore he waa Judge in Equity, spoke in this House on the question of Union And am I to be told that I cannot quote from the debates of this House because one of its members happens to be elevated to the Bench ? Why, we had pages quoted from the late Lord Brougham yesterday. But wiule the hon. member rebuked me tor quoting from a poeech made by one of our judgp- when a po- Utician, he took especial pains to refer to Judge WiJmot. AVhy, wc heai- it stated that a gen- tleman, who stands foremost for his reputation as a judge, a man of integrity ana otrcng onna- tian principles, had been bought with a Gov- crnoi-ship. ecause, as a constituent of the Dominion, and not as a judge, he had expressed himself in favor of Uuion, theretore he had been given the Governorship ot NcV Brans- Avick Sir if my conduct was reprehensible, how nuich more so is that of the hon. member himseU'?— if my language was censui-able, how much more so is his on that point ? The hon. member for Annapohs, and others, thought it very proper to have a fling at the Legislative Council. I think such remarks are not always in good taste, and it would be weU ilXw were avoided. What has the Leguila- tive Council done ? How does the hon. mem- ber know that the Council might not adopt these resolutions if sulmiitted to it V It is quite time enough, when they have obstructed the Governor, to refer to it in the terms used by hon. menibei-s. Is the Council to be a more echo of the House, and endorse all its acUons . It is necessary, under the British Constitution, that there should ho an upper branch, to op^ 1 ate as a check upon the popular body. Mow ar.. you going to get rid of that body, in case you'wisli it ? By an Act of this IloUse, or by in Act of the British House of Commona. Otlierwise you cannot abolish it. _ Wc had next a very lengthy disquisition on theology from the hon. member, but it was so obscure that I could not understand it at rdL Then he gave us a dissertation on the rebellion in Canada ; when Pnpiiieau and Uie Canadians were rebelm.g. Nova scotia soid^ he^ ^'f "^i holding the flag and power of England. I wU Bhow him, sir, what wUl be doubtless sufficient autliority to him and his friends, th»t the Can* OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 259 di,a> militia did good "^i;'^* j^.J^Ku- five yeaM ago Hon. J?fP^."^{;^ ■ it was at \niy^l ^ions th« North ^mencanj- :)-- ,^--r wKe^ia CoronCre.olted, :r,1flrrtwiSf to induce the Nortl;evu *?i„1?!fS;. Bri«.i.Gov«™»« tod b^t claHmtionsoflenngtixemostW menta to shake the loy^^V ,"t„ i,,„ wnmiort of The Canadian miUtiaralhed ^ the support o ^e Boyal authoriti^ ^ ^ cL^^. Sorei. had not Sir ^uy Cariejo" « «J«ts ^^^^^ ^^„. arms of the Canadian miUua. 1 «';;^ ^^^^^^ Re- OU8 attacks were °?f'i«.,JV and directed by pubUcan arnnes, gallantly led ana ^^^^ Arnold and Montgomery. At every p enemy was foiled '^"'^.S^aott^iem being ,ixt«en hundred men four-hfa.9 0^ tU ^^^^^ ^. those raw Canadian minna, wii""^ Ke'^oa in this country 3UBtrK>w, to de^ preciate and undervalue. Hus t""^- ^ ^^nt«,the Pro^dnce ^«^ .fj^f jSpSiSe iS yalor of the Canadiai^, as^t ^as "npo S in the Mantime l^ro^nce.^^^ raiged in the M^i^itime i'-""— ; j^ ^^^^ tiawasorgamzed and som^ gnd Halifax, interior were brougnt m u^ v^ Vronch whol. to 13,300 m»n 1« "ntth P ^^ U,0 Ptovmoc "'"'S'Jf, id Montreal. Bot were to gan-aon at QyJtJ'jrfLoe of Upper riSt bfoV of ^^-S'A^^^sCeZ close, the Canadian n}ihUa took theie «very mintai-rPt-nri.vStv't^nes^.'and viea wiui cucii ui;..- -- --^'„. ;„„tured Detroit, discipline. Of the toroe ^at *5"Pt.^«j^^j^da defeuded by 2,500 men, but a lew u S~:Si.,» oan a*...l "«'■. "'S ■i^k C- ro»i7^Sur4S3'b: alone wero engaged. / *"!t«m back and went into winter quartere. uTn 1«1S Canada was menaced by Uue« In IS Id, '"'^Mn," Niagara district was Ibr a separate cori.8. ^^^f, ^^,*^ *^e capital of time overrun, and ™' ^"° | burnt. i,\adequato to its delenc«. h ;t m^^ ^^Sg^ of the campaign, d>3n»trou3 or tnu ^ Canadian militia had it« "hare, i ' -«r tt^'tfaSyColon^ ^'«^«*^^ r:;d whaVcS ic done -ith th^e poor undisciplined Colonists ^1rho, ^ti« «« fashion to teU us, can "'^ y ^"l, °'^*' froln tbeii- anything by T^^thto^^'^^i '^ar ^o^iers. farms and turnmg them into re^a .^ The American General had a torce oi /,vu fantry, 10 field ofo^^;,^-^^^ ^^^£ coun- Saleberry disputed their p^ge ^^^^ try he loved, wi J 1,000 bayon;^^^ ^f „ore back, and hiw left hemna a pamph- valucinthis argument than a do^enp P^^ lots or iU-natnred speeches »^ ^ '^'^"^^e affair this action, ticuend ^nuth says • ^ upon the Chateai|giy nvcr -^^^^^^^^ ^^, havmg been iought on t^e bi entirely by Canadians. 11 oKcpuDUca future opportunity. , iUustrations. It "But ^^hy need I multiply lu ^^-^^ i. apparent that but t«%^^'' Canadian mUitia, audgallantconduct of the Canadian ^^^^ 7'° ThfchlhShetcoSn^^^ fighting Napo^ lorce whiclitne inoiu aafelv spare, would Icon on the continent^ cod u lately ^P ^ have been "J'^'T^C before Waterloo wa.s would have heen lc«t hrfor« ^^ ^^^ ^^y^i won, as it would have heen oeio of the British troops m 1776, but lor in s lant defence of Quebec. (Canada) un- " I have shown you that her ^^«^" ^.^^ trained militia has t^'c« «™ ^^f ^e ' lateai .uid I have shewn you that on tLe^^^^^^^ ^^^.^ occasion when <-J«^* ^"^^"^ded to the caU." patriotism, every "^'^'} ^.^J^ V 11 sufficiently ^ These quotations I th"^k.^,^^^ ^^^^^ the refute the "^^'^ "^ Doesn't Mr. Howe want of Canadian loyaiij. i^" ^, ,,ove beyond all f„t J,«° A'^^e leen lo8t to ^'T'l^dNova%cotif ^ould bo letl «ur- England, and ISova ^cou ^^ ^•°liff^ir„sl.ntianwas ever 'disloyal w. are told." Wby.Vir, tke m.,T, i, not yery lon^ .n I 260 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS hi« i^rare, who wa« brought in chains into Halilai for his complicity in raising the flag of rebellion in Nova Scotia. When I hear re- Jerencfts made to Canidian rebels I will It'll jjcntlemen to remember that tht-re whs once an Attorney General of Nova Sco«ia wlio liad been charged with the crime of rebellion. Does not 5lr. Howe writ<5 as ho might write to-day ? Here we find him standing I'o ajid arguing the claims of the Canadian militia to consideration; urging thnt the people of Ca- nada wore always tiue to England, and «•■ ■ . shirked in any way the defence of th t < .. try. Yet we are now told that No a 6-ofi: alone upheld the British flag. We l.r : it wiJ •. be recollected, the power to send th n?'''Ji at that time to Canada, but we did nr '"> m. Several references have been m>'gH - ^th^^'JIJ^S that I iK.n. member laid uown j i^.^teB were ,u,d his inendB, and yet we ^"4™ \i^„ ^o,,. ,b^t to repudiate it entirely. ^^^ Jy,^^"^, ^he member is responsible to ttoW^.^ ^^^^^ manner in which he ^^"? fTwation-that is. This House appointed the 'J«1«K^J^" ^^^^ offi- throughtlie governments^ ly hTd !tat«d that oe«. He complained that li«a j^ these g^ntlejnenbBd departed «^P^^^.^.^„_ •^'T^r TS orReS Hesaid the Go- and did not ask 'or Kep^m- . course vemment knew -^^PP-^ti tSrXttomey ofproceedmg. J«>tconi« Repeal, Gen6«l to send ^em home to pie^ ^^^^ but he had them sP^<^»«^'yirS° Gov«nment lation of this "ouse li the ^ knew of ^»n.rr^,,ots waB F^^^^^^ '''''''' tlse did, until the P'Otesi w i ^ j.^o,n own K«P0rt t7o^r x-eSr^ig to Xir fi«t in- their ^'^''^}^y'Z'-^'^^^orBlo^dr^gharx., they temewwirti the Duke ^^^^^^^ strictly with- al SKour instructions, a.king tor a Itcpeal of the Union." .u-^t interview then fhey acknowledged a th ^ in ^ ^^ ^^^, thiit their instructions obUgea „,ent, repeal, and "O^hing but jpeal Aly^^ therefore, is <=?"f f, f fi.luutei-view did they admit that only f J-.^^tf^"' i-t^c'--; k«ep withm the umi« ^^^ ^gp^,,, Then we are told that no (-anadian- delegates left lor England^ dd t ^.^^^ .„. ,„.n. -%rhrTembert mistaken The ^aS'on'cJ^^.-^'-f.-Sfw^^^^^^ ^-^'^rriCbSSaCtt^^ A great deal has ''*''" ",. foreet for every dufies. «-tX^«^to?«t:mps, there dollar paid mto tl^«f;,*^"f "'Eduction on the let- has been a correspondmg leduc ^^^ ^^^^ ten.. Th« PO?^^^„°,ee cents, and the regis- veduced from five to ^I'^^^^wter reduced from uation fee of every n^-^yj^^^^^^^^^^ to say that tew to two cents. 1 w/"^" • ^his way than intUviduals have ^^^f'^^'lJlJ^g of course tliey have paid lor stamps, excepn g ^^^^ the'large monegry institutions -^^ ,, afford to pay. /^f^^^J of sh' John A. Mac- into the seeret h^tor^ "Itjl^specially from douald's mission to t h^ c t j v^^^^^^ ^^^ the hon. meniber loi »o.Snc.-Oh. no, Ito I.--- l™*' to the people." It ^as eviue . ^^ they would not he unwilling to h«^" ^^ ^ reasonable proposition. I at" ^^""" i jfope .ive them credit for Kff ^ "f "^^.^i^ 'the Pro- tnd expect the time wi 1 c^"^e w^^^^^^^^^ rdncial Secretary and others wui oe i listen to some Prop"^;^"^^' ^hf o? acceV<^. them and found ^^^^^"^ .^^^ e fevorable consi- will recommend them to t^^e « ^^^ deration ot the people, ^^^^^^^^^^d atate 1- about what Sir John A r;*"" ^ed by any the General Act^canno be oh-^^^^^^^^^ Legislature m this ,'^ountry xu .^ that originated can alono a tei^nd a .^ It any changes are mat'e, >t must ^^^ 1 d_by tl-Hous^f ^taXald , ,, Majesty. It Su Jo'm - pverv obnoxi- cmne here and o^^yo U^kc o t ^^^ ^^^ ous clause, he, ^^ould be ofler . . ^^^ j^^ ^^, in his power to Peftonn. ihuUo ^^^^^ ^^ ssrciii^^-^'S'^^-^^^^"^^"- ^^SirSers^Co^terand^VigS ria(Mr.Mor. son andMi Ki^^^^^^^^^^ in the and yet very ditTerent. i»e> a ^^ ,,urity of their diction t ..eujer y^^^^ , Uress, in the si^lciuto, ot tue 4^^^^^ an.l the volume oitlieu voces ^^^ ^^^^ they diflery , ^'fJX'JoToi mv brow"- nuike my living by he s^e'it o ^^^^^^^^^. the other dechu;^«, " J ."l ^ f J,^^ inasmuch as al lawyer!" They It t «^^' ^^^.j, ^.i, yting theonelcvcbhisartiULi>,u"u sarcasms and/unoiis inv«^e at ^^.^^^^^^^ and myseU- ; m the "f^'^^^^-Je contents him- preceding the ^to™^^,^;^^ ,° nen hke myself : self principally without.^ ^^^1^^^ ^^ the other goes "^1^^^, ;"f \'ir Adderley, and the Duke of B^^H^fn^n member tciCol- Earl Carnarvon. Ihe "o"- " ^jowu SiJsterwill harcUy condescend tc^^eonje ^^^^^^ to thl. humble arena i^d con e^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^ folk like myself ; hi jou j ^^^^^ teach the l>'^e constitutional la^ ^^._ ber perfectly ^eU ^he» ^U ol ^^^ .^^^^^ Johnston a very dangerous^l P j^^^^^, ^^de but the hou. member trom ^^. ^^.^ ^^. that gentleman the constam J ._^^^i,ing tacks. ^o\^%l%^,d Lords will satisfy his but Dukes l='^f'J"';,^;:rthem to be the aspirations. He "^ l^^ ^ ^^w in compan- ^^t tyros m consututio, o^ should come t« son Willi himsclt. .'-e... --, .^c...... 2$2 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS NoTa Sootia and go to ihe tohooi of the hon. member in LondoudeiTy, in order to lettrn a little of hie extensive ! ! knowledge in that branch of political science. There is a ceitain amount of rivalry, too, between these two gen- tlemen ; who ia to judge between them ? Ihero is nobody but myself and the hon. mem- ber for Cumberland who can properly decide. To whom, then, should we give the palm ? — To the dramatic action I the excited tone I tlie magnificent ! pereoration of t^-e one, — the re- xnai'kably aflecting way in which he could sink into his seat, exhausted, and wipe his burning brow, after having made u;ie of nearly all the law words in Webuter ; or to the jplendora of the eloquence, the remarkable good sense I or self-sacrificing spirit ! of the other ? They have given uo a most vivid picture of the wrongs of this country. Some of the remarks of the hon. member for Colchester actually brought teai-» to my eyes — perhaps I was especially aflectod by the fact of his cloie proximity. The hon. member lor Colchester (Mr. Mor- rison) went into a lengthy tirade ujjon the Duke of Buckingham and other gentlemen, through which it is impossible and unnecessary for me to follow him. He said that all the men who had voted for and carried Confe- deration had received their reward, and of these he gave us a lengthy history. Does ho mean to say that all the men who voted tlmt way were influenced by promises of onice and position ? He surely cannot mean it. He nnus not content with teiiing us of those who got Senatorsliijis, he came down to the local de- partments, tuid referred to tlie Attorney Gen- eralship. I can stand hero and say that if I Avas Attorney General, it was not because 1 supported Confedemtion. It was the peculiar position in which I was placed— all those witli whom I had been associated would not take the office. If the hon. member wishes to at- tribute motives to any one, let liim look a lit- tle neai-er home. Are we to be told that be- cause a man supports a particular policy, and is afterwards chosen to fill fonie position, therefore he has sold himself? 1 will give hiui tt piece of history also. Have gentlemen in this House, comieceted with tlie Government, adopted the policy they support simply witli a vie, ■ to oflice and emolument? The Attorney General got his poSiLon by oi)iJosing Conledc ration. The hon. Mr. Aimaiid got a seat in the Legislativu Council, and the Treasurei'ship of the Pro\'ince, besides a very large sum for public prmtiiig; was he paid In oppose Confeds'rutioii ? 'i'he hon. memlxT might just as well say that these gentlemen got tlieir rewards by way ol' bargai-i mitl sale. Wo see the Provincial Secretary holiling iin office of tmolument — the hon. " member for Aimapolis a member of the Government and a delegate; and the hon. member for Colchester Ai/nsc//" occupying the position ol limigration Ageut. Was tlatt his payment.' Was tlmt his price ? No one would be more ready than mysell'to del'end the hon. memb r from suili an insinuation, but coitainly he should seri- ously reflect beibre bniigmg such rash eiiarge'» against nitjii who, tliere is every reason to be- lieve, are just as disintei'cstfid'as himself The iiOii. member iiaid, "libWouid not, ntx^ tiial those who had iwieivcd offices and positions from the Confederate party liad been bought, had received their price; he merviy stated facts and let all honest men draw their own inferences." Then I say that the hon. gentle- man himself has received an office with a pretty decent salary Attached to it for doing nothing. I .state whac is an absolute tact, and 1 lx)o say let all honest men draw their own inference as to why and wherefore he got it. Looking at the couree he has pursued, and the positiou in which he now stands, I think he ia as clearly chargeable with having reo«ived his price as any body I know of The next time he dares to cast imputations, and giv« currency to unfounded slandei-s, I sincerely hope, for his own -sake at least, that he will look carefully at home and satisfy himself that nothing he has ever said or done leaves him open to suspicion of having been boughi. 'I'liese slmideit, are probably inspired by tin Minute of Councfl. Let me refer to Hoi. John H. Andei-son, one of the most sut.«>ri )r inen trom end to end of t!ie Province, and ask if his advocacy of Confederatien was bought by a .Senatorsliip ? Look at Thomas D. Archi- bald, a man who for uin-ight and pure con- duct v.as unsmpassed in the liberal party to which he belonged, a man entirely above cor- ruption, iuid yet we have the mean assertion that he got his Senatoi-ship by tlie sale of him- self to the support of Coniederation. I will not go over the names of others because! think 1 have already sufficiently repelled tlie insinuation who and what are these men that they venture Muls to speak of their betters. The hon. gerUcmau told us that I had lashed myself into a fury,— I do get warm occasion- ally, and it is necessary that, situated as I am, 1 should sometimes hit pretty hard in order to get fair play, but it was the unkindest cut of all for that hon. member to tjilk about lashing oneseU'into a fury. Anvtlmig that I can soy iu comi)arison with his outbursts, is but as the w'lisperings of tlie sol'U'st breeze compared with the loud bowlings of the wildest gale of wind, or the lashing of tLe " roUing billows' on a rock bound shore. (Laughter.) He told me that the people could teuch me a cUflerenl lesson, and ho also referred to my advocacy of a legislative union, but ho forgot that I was merely quoting from u speech of tlie hon. Ai.- torne\ General. He also referred to a matter that lu„^ been much commented on iu the press and iu tlie Minute of Council : tlu. is as to tht-. •■ighty O'uts a head, making it the giuvameii of hLs charge against the constitution that the allowance does not go on to increase after our pojiuhition arrives at 400,000. Until the last tonior iive mouths no .iriut of any condition undtiiook to say that'tnis was an objection to the stiheme. Let us see how it woika. If the tlelegates wauled the allowance to ba made, $l.oO, I believe thoy could have got it. M V. MoaitisoN.— Hear,'hear. Mr. Blancaakd continued :~The hon. member sa.\ s hear, hear, but I will show that in doing so, and he would p.obablv would have done it, they would have committed a serious blunder. Ujiper ( anwia, bear in mind, IS increasing in iiopulation at a prodigious rate; make the subsidy j^l.SO per bead, and \yhat is the result ? Canada will, iii a *hoi-t time, sweep away the whole reve^ufe in the per capitc and leave nothing lor general purjj |)oses. 'J'herefore it was uecessaiy tlmt the axAomot ihould b ber to)d ub that ties ■would give i think that is not formed an exaj il" he supposes tl could get that u some members i votes. Some o House ever had at most, and soi county with a s tioned. If I co I should deserr Then we are and Mr. Gait st great advocatt Confederation Tliat is not a s that on this flo ed and promul to piovc the ri talk about whi of Confederati crucified heel and their ash most sunk ui meiit, let me cruel tortures like himself s contrary to B both hanged i Irishman wh phou.d be b know that tb that if he hac LondondeiTj finger to cxiv <;nicii'y his r( accomplish fleclared tha trol our min hand on any fcrencc, I w continue to no such pov only restrici the prevent emergency were mad e nusing mor member ni lietter not V "bankrupt Finance de offenHivo. walked th morchnitts greatest bl vancc its Imve loai pny a shill Hcter Iwft knowiv tlu rme time menta — Mr. No mention t lie offieor^ Mr. Bt, !.f f for II winter h( of a laws party, OP THE liOUSE or ASSEMBLY. artountihouldbekeptlaw. The hon. mem- ^r toM UB that not one of the eighteen coun^ ties wonld give me more thav. 500 votes. I SthatiTnotsobadafteraU he must have formed an exaggerated idea ol my ablhties S supposes that in each of . tlie counties I coSd g^t that number. I beheve there are some me^^ibcrs sitting here with less than 500 ^otes. some of th 3 brightest ornaments t^s House ever had, sat here with only 150 votes ft most, anu some hr.ve sat here tor his own couX with a smaller number than he nien- doned If I could in each county poll oOO votes I should deserve credit. Then we are told that because Mr Cartier and Mr. Gait said that in Canada they had been ^eaf advocates of Confederation, therefore Confederation did not begin in Nova Scotia Tliat is not a sequence at all,-he must know that on this floor Confederation was hi-st^stort- ed and promulgated. There is no use m trying to move the nfvei-se. But then he went on to talk about what should be done to the au liors o^' Confederation, and said that they should be Sudfied heels upward, their bodies burned, and their ashes scattered to the .v.mls. I d- most sunk under that denunciation, i aiim- mS, let me tell him, long agoabolishcd those ^•uel'tortures. Agi-eatl constitutional Lnv^er Hke himself Aould have known that it ^^a.s rontrary to British principles for a man to be botSged and buUd,-but ^c was hke^the Irishman who was detornuned that he man ^houd be both "killed and murdered. 1 know that these are all figures of speech, and She had Dr. Tupper on the "lovrntans ol Londondei-ry to-movrow, he would not hit a finger to cnfcify him. He means that hewou d ■nVcuV his reputation, and he docs his best to accomplish that. He, with o, and told us that the Judge should have said, "gentlemen, Confederation should be carried because it puts £■'00 a year into my pocket." Is that not very like the expression of a high toned I and re- fined ! gentlemim ? When he makes such an insinuation against either the Chief J"«tice or the Judge in Equity they fall pointless and harmless; but not in that light are they re- trarded in the countiy, because they are calcu- hited to .lepreciate the Judiciary in the eyes ot the people. When a gentleman can l)e lound, return.!d by any constituency, who hismuatea that a mere increase of the salaries oi the Judces makes tliem politicians, it is time tor overv one . > cry shame. Shame, say I, upon any man who could be guilty of smu an ac . Tliev ai-e scarecly worth the time which it tok,>s to refute them. He said that when I talked of the Inman line being a Wessingto his country I should have known that the 'un.rd lino w,i.s far better, Who enil)0i-s had perfect freedom of ?■:,.,. ch us regards pei-sons outside the Ilouf-thriv own good sense being the only guide, aiid 'U- ■>rJv metl, id ot holding Uicm accountably b'n--4 hy ac'")n for libel Mr. iN'ovii IT.- -f nni quit.' sure that the lion, memlior for lu.crness wi/uld not -Make a Htatement which lie knew f '._ ineorrect. The firm he rcl'irred to nevt r made a composition with theii creditors. Mr. UlaiVcilvud.— I never j. 1 anything of the kind. I merelv s_ id tliR< it was believed at one time that they were euilwrrasfcd. Hon. Attt. Genl.— The hon. member for Halifax must have misapprehended the hon. member for Inverness, as he (Mr. Blanchard) spoke in terms of the liighest praise of the late Mr. Cunard. The debate was adjourned as the hour for adjournment had arrived, and the House ad- journed. Wednesday, Sept. 2, 1868. Hon. Attt. Genl. introduced a bill to amend Chap. 25, R. S. Hon. Mr. Troop, from the Ccmmittce on La^\• Amendments, reported following bills:— To amend Chap. 152 R. S. To amend Chap. 171 R. S. To amend Ci -^p. 85 K. S. Also introduced a bill respecting the Supreme Court and its officers. Mr . Townsend presented a petition from Yaiinouth, the purjiort of which was not heard. Mr. White introduced a bill respecting har- bor masters at Sydney. 3ilr Blanchakd, from the Committee on Private and Local Bills, reported — To incoiporate the Carnarvon Gold Co. To incoiporate the Sabbatli School Associa- tion. To incorporate the Intercolonial Iron and Steam Co. Respecting Street Curbings in the city of Halifax. To incorporate St. Andrew's Lodge of Free- masons, Sydney. To incorporate Mulgrave Gold Mining Co. Respecting Trinity Church, Halifax. To incoiporate the Board of Western Mission of Baptists. Mr. KiRic presented a petition from the Brit- ish Order of Good Templars, in favor of the es- tablishment ot an Inebriate Asylum. A Message was received for the attendanoe of the House in the Council, when his Excel- lency the Lieutenant Governor was pleased to assent to 38 bills. On the return of the House, the debate on the Itejieal Resolutions was rcKumed. MR. BLANCIIARD'.S SI'EECU CONTINUED. Mr. Blanchard then continued as follow* ii : When I had the jileasure of addressing the House yesterday afternoon on the important t- ibject under eonsidcation, I had occ^si m to rei I'ly to a good many speeches on the opposite side with what ability I could command. 1 feel it is impossible for me to jal attention to a tithe of the arguments adduced, on accoun; of the want of time and perhaps want of abili- ty. I Avould like to refer, for a fcnv 'noments, liow to the observations of the hon member for King's, (Mr. Dickie) who comes npxt ii order. He thought projier to congifi :ulai > nie on my changed tone. Having opened this de- bate with moderation, having brought before the House and country the circumstances in ^vlli^•h we arc placed as n li; rately as I was able, it would liave been us well if ho had .ot niad(^ an.v rotcrences to what (Hcun-ed during the lirs' period of the siv* ion, in the heat of i>ly 1:^ >ii!u on th'M ; o'nt, whon I forgi'-e a >.,!', e hatohot unrta- any , corcl.U nc to take r:<\v< ir. brougl Mr. thing do 1 li exhib well £ fharg It isi will addrt the > 'I'he I Seoti the 1 oond Con] ^^, i: OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY 265 member for . the hon. Blanchard) of the late e> hour for House ad- 5. 2, 1868. ill to amend nmittce on ring bills : — he Supreme itition from 18 not heard, peoting har- nimittee on aid Co. )ol Assccia- il Iron and the city of dge of Free- lining Co. fax. item Mission omthe Brit- 'or of the c«- n. attendance I liis Exccl- s pleased to ) debate on 3d. >(TINUEn. 1 as folloA^.j : Idressing the c important I occBsi m to the opposite ommand. 1 attention to on accoun; I'ant of abili- \v 'Tiomente, (tn inembei' mes npxt v. gra:ulai > me ijned this de- )ught before mistunees in sly us I was f lie Imd . ot niTod during 1 the heat of thl: oint. 1-gfe a ijuv, 3t unrta- any IK to take itun again, The hon. member well knoxys tiiarif I wished it I might reply to him m term" such as he might not easily forget, onTpoi^-My road him a valuable lesson. He ?hen went (m to refer to the diminution nl Sesl^hichlhad stated at ,-§100 000 below W vear and save a very extraordinary rea- t.^'tiiat decrease. We reason was "rt^vt thiscoimtiy wasbeins -""'^'''"rnn'ida w re ru... crocis-that owners from Canada w^ie nressir'' their merchandize on every »hop- ^^ep^ln the country." He said t ">t he and Ws partner had been even '«^l"C«'\ « ^^ ' portion oi tliesc goods. There is notl u.g that feould more rejoice at than the ac h>t Canadian manufactures are to be ound in pvory corner of thi country. I^P^ the lion. Tentlempn go aerosi', the street directly oppo- Iteto^hert I stand and he will find one ol ^SSoIt determined Auils in this city acting 2ln agent Jbr Canadian Tweoas .uul a. u.b Ivaimnnneing his place as '' l!'*^, V 0"^,';;. ranadian Tweeds, &c.," and which ^nioe Con frdeSn 1ms removed the .luty from these good can be sold here much chi.aper tban bc^ t°ie and . onsider.Wy less than il imported •vomthc Slates. '1 .ey never came here >k- •ore because they .ore "-^ by a diUy of t.m upr cent I gi^'s ll>c statement oi the Hon. Ker all st-ong argument ^-i^^ ronfedenition. A/iU the hon. member t(;ll "'' tr'Sl;Lnwhy th. revenue ^l"™^^- 1862 to such an extent that Kie t,ovcrnmi.m had /meet the House with a large r.ehcit ^nd haiin ord-uto .^ovi^de ibr H- -aiUs o That yeai- our taxes had t.. be mere i^e'l 25 pe cent Istlie.-e any one able toteU us ot the, secret springs which often influence traue r How is it that the dry goocls "KU-chMnts o this ciiv have found it so difficult during the ast yl io sell their goods and meet hen- 'engagements. With the "^^■l'^.\'^'\,?' , \^^^i, peallgitationand the |i«''Pvocity .1 ea v Us difficult to determine the cause ol tln^ state oftSL As to the hon. member's calcula- tio s I w 11 pa«s ov.r them, becauss it is im- Sbletogo into tliem without the printed Krtofhit speech beibre me and «e^^^ ohU deal with the same subject ^^^w ^^^"^^^^^^ t« refer to the remarks ol tlie hon f lovmcu Se..etary. Bat I may ask how >«>J ^^at f^^ ,.on. member undertook o 1™^ %f J" ^^;^^ cUfTerence ol exchange ^";'"'e«" ,i„\' .^"^Tl and Canada. He "'"«' have known ha nu the accounts of the provmce up to t^lns time have been kept in the currency ol Is«>a bco '\v. D.CKIK-I HH,n.A It -o in ^.me reports b,Hight down ^ ^^^^^.^, ^,^^.,,_ ,,^, ^,„„ ;S.ehivLhatanyof.he,.pe..^-;;;;;' :TS1^i, the .^iru* with, lie ste.m.r^^^^^ It.sincomprchensbe to me^u. g ^^^^^ ^ ,vill so misrepn;s<>"t ^he ai„ wldresscl to the House; tha ^^ > ;'" 5^ ,,>, „„, stand-poiiU t=o;«; -\';J ., :;: ol'Nova The steamer nr,ii(l ^^n9 .Jv.ilitil.n. Now Scotia nlone previous to <,o"l;,;J:^'^^^\;,„ ,,i,„, Iheposiio.i wl... il nuu_ 1- ■ • ,^^^,,^ ;, eonditic.n would the '/';''' ,,„„^v'' If it Confederation had nwev taken place had never occurred, the Province would have been obliged to repair and use that steamer The late member tbr Yarmouth, (Mr. KiUam,) Mr Coffin, and another gentleman, were ap- pointed a committee to examii.e a number ol i^^^ssels in order to select one for the protection of the fisheries. The " Drmd'" wos according- ly purchased under their report and became the property of the provmce. She was taken possSnof by the Dominion Goyermnent when the provinces were conlederated. &.he has been engaged in visiting o"^ light-house, and Sable Islard, and I may say that last year she iiaid her cost in saving goods from w.rectfs at the ktter place. She is used tor purpose* for which theLocalGovernment would have beei. oWieed to have used her. Is it not fair then, to charge the steamer as I did, when arguing to show- the position we would have occupied had we not b.;en conlederated. The hon. member next stated that our stock had gono up :n England since Coniederation. I »«'£»* tn hear it, for it i. an illustration of the bene- t>s of Confederation, and the belief prevaihng Bin-oadinthesfaliilityof the Doimmon. Pre- vious to Confederation we had to pay 6 poi cMit. for mcne. borrowed in England, and now sve e.n get it on ^^ '"O'^^ ^^^r"^" terms the interest on the InteTColoniRl Rail- way T- n being only ;U pei" «cnt. Our debem turL nere lyhi. idle a long Period mth« hands of Messiu Baring Bros., an^ we were obliged to pay them a large sum ol advanoe. thevhad ^venasthe faith and g™^* ;« °f be' bonds'! On account of the 't^'te ot the market our financed ngents could »ot sell them, and bk.med the Government ioi ii^ui^ ing the public credit by trying t > do so. ^ow lam glad to hear from the hon. member that these debeutures are at a premium. I shall now pass iVoni him to the hon. mem- ber tt oUeLr (Mr. Chambers), who never rises in this House without sayinp something ex^riordinarv-that no one else would venture o«av lie -told us that the official reporters , gavfhim a speech vhieh he knew peifecUy Tveliiie could never have made, ^o.v.ltee hal the reporters do me in ustice-thej do not v.mort mv ungrammatical expressi... .. t.ei tX lyttoe \s c.ne thing that they cannot re^ ; rt,Cl that is the style and r^r>l^. .e,ulom(>n Thev must fail cntirelv in repori son") occasionally lavoi-s us «'>•"• '' „ ;„ i(- TIk^ lion. memr)er sain "P S money, and 1-'";;,|- -^^X^^P^ed t^e ^'- ''""; ^•^^^ie^ma • oai^^d i^Tid they *-»*' liir ™^oS„s.^s Ultl '"" , «i,.. Vi'w BrunswK-K oonu-r, and it an across the >i-W i;»i"^^^^ vn.vU of ootton iSH^ 266 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS ately poniioed upon. Xow, under Confedem- tion this stite of things has (ILaappeared. Mr. ■Robb was a mnn of enterprise, and not afrtiid of the competition tliat he knew must arise out of Confederation. Another foundry was cstub- Hshed at Sackvillo. The enterprise of these men has been rewarded as it oiiglit to be. But if it was true that Mr. Kobb was ruined by bfing compelled to largely reduce the price of his stoves, then the peoi)Ie of Nova Scotia are benefitted — they get tlieir stoves clieape)' than before, so 1 think his argument on behalf of th«? people operates against him. The lion, mem- ber ^ent on to talk to us about " little pests," and certainly he found some which were so in- Bignificant that he did well to designate them " little." One was, that lie could not get the salary of a way-office keeper inci-eased. Now, the lato Postmaster General hud never the power to increase the salaries of anybody in hi* department ; a petition must have been jir-e- sented to the Government, and it would nev? ■ see the light unless they approved of it, or they might submit it to the House, and send it to the Post Oliico Committee, to rejiort tliereon. Now all tlie hon. member has to do is to apply to the Dominion Government, and jnecisely the same course will be pui-sued as was folhnved by our Government under the old system. — Now we come to ■' pest No. 2." " He could not frank a jiloughsharo, o'- send his shirts home to te washed I " He could not frank his newspapers 1 lie forgot to tell the Hou.sc that every member was allowed ;^2 for newspapers, 80 he could send a hundred, as luiiny us h<- could want, to his constituents. Tlu'u he com- plained that the Bible was taxed, v, liicli he de- clared was an irreligious act ! Yet that coun- try to which all his ar-pirations tend — that country to which ho would lain le;id us — and under whose control he would be delighted to have us, taxes the Bible 20 or 2o per cent 1 Next Ave arc told that tliey pay no poor rates in Prince Edward Island, it may be so ; but if we look to the records of the Legislature last year, we shall find that, like ourselves, they were obliged to jirovide nu.'ans of subsistauco as well as seed gi-ain for the jioor. They will not unite with any country ! — iKijiiiy pcojile ! Does not he reinember Avhut his friend, Mr, Howe, once said at Onslow? — "If Prince Ed- ward Island Avould not fall in, they would send a fciteatiier, tow her up to Lake Superior, pitch her in, and she would not even raise the tide." He said that the ship of state was wateiloggi d. I fun surprised to hear that from a supi)orter of the Government. To say that tlic Allorney General could ever be waterlogged is sotiiei liiug tliat nobfidy will believe (great laughter). The hon. member next went on to descril)e I ho benefits of annexation. Oar harboi-s would be filled witli steamers and sliiin.nig — Sidney \s;ou Id become a BoKti.r. and J'liiifax a New Vork — cur forests would I; - • ut down, — our mines develuped--the strean.s that are run- ning from the rocI:s to the mua would f urn a thousand mills, Mr. CuAMr-icua.— 1 simply staled what lln' people fliought and wu^h. Ml", Bi,AN'<'n^l!I>,— Wbi'i'i' did lb'.' Uuu. member If urn that y How dare Ue pi'rpclnvle .such a slander on the loyal jieoplc of tliis coun- try ? If it were so and "he did not agree wit!) ,such ijentiments, why die", lie not show Uk." peo- ple their folly? That annexation would be one of the greatest eurees ever inflicted upon this country. "Why does ho refrain to raise !iis voice, sit in sullen silence hke a coward, and allow the people to keep marehing on to such an awful fate. A\"c want reciprocity with tlie United States, but not intimatfi political connection, and if our loyalty is to be the price of closer commercial relations with that coun try, even thoug'i it would bring greater prog- jiority, the mr.'i is a black-hearted monster who would accept it at such cost. The hon. member said that the taxes, of the United States were light. Now let me call attention to what the New York " Herald " says on this point — Mr. Chambers. — I said the people had great resources to bear taxation, and und«r annexation it would be comparatively light. Mr. Blvnchaud. — Notwithstanding the iuimense resources how are they taxed? Des- pite; their tropical region producing cotton and sugar ; des[)ile their wide domahi abounding ill wheat, corn, and minerals, they are ovov- whehued with taxes. The " Herald " says : "OriiHiiAvy Taxk.s— Will the People liEAU T11L.M '.' — The ]n!ople of 1 he United States are more heavily taxed than any other people in the world. Even in England, Avhere there is a stupendous national debt and one larger than ours, and where there is a costly system of royal government to support, the taxes are not so great or so burdensome. We speak ||rninent is supreme— restricted only by two iTiles, viz; nnilbrtnity jind a|iportionnient, and that the local govern- ment can oidvsupiilemeiitil liy direct taxation. Ivent. 1st, vol., page t;)8, says: " Wlicii the (,'oiislitntion of tlie United Slates was under the epii-JiliTiUion ol' tiio State Conventions, lliere v.a.- niueli conci rn cxpi'osed on the sub- ject of the general power of taxation over al! "objects of tiixaiion vesled in the National Gov- cnimLiit, and lUiU it was supposed that il would be in the cretion, to des power of taxat to deprive the their own wan tion might by^ Eedernl— or G The States mu taxes, duties, lay the same t same subject. is the tax imp Governnient- whether it be sure earriagee and prosperoi obhged to la\ ties ; the doc United State? first satisfied " But would to declare t the time tl they not, as paid, and m cases stand 1 is collected State tax ov. the doctrine federalist hii Doesn't tl come so bai- our allegiaii ted our an adoption, ai brace of th( this Local 1 be very mu from what the ignorai some peop. constitutio sings, etc. principles. tors rising the attemi be the guii subvert oi would rai linger of ? abettoi-s c point. 1 better bei timonts, ■> must ^ay think T li I bat am snare." tween ov States, b country. have bei In order hon. me tlons w people ofRee w he does is he go to the < the re~\ enublin statute pircd i ^tt^Jk^-^'.-WI' OF THE HODSF. OP ASSEMBLY. 261 lay the same burden at t Ik, —^^^ ^^^^_^j^^ and r^.'-perousl} ben, ; ^'l ^ ^^^^^. ties; tho ^^'^^'^'^.r^^^^^JLd^nn^l'^^ United Stntcs woidd be v^^^^ .^^^^.^ ^. ^^,^^^^,. . first satisfied. l',av ^^^.^ S;bJri.:^u i- -S'-ShH -:^;oui^ssSthS^tuo.nu.- State.s but what have we seen ot l.U.^_ in il^ut country. The f«vermm.nt i»ul ^gj^^- imvc be.,Mi oblig.;d to ovorndc t c e ,|,,^^^ in order to obtain hber y *;^^ ' , J^j , ,c.olu- hon. member wen; ..yo ■*»> ,f \, ,,,,,t the tLons were not ^^''^'s "'" "^ ; ' ", , po.t- people expected tna^ the ro.'cn ^ 'l\eUeve Cff^ce would be taken possess on . i ^ hedoesthepeo,>l« a S.re'^t^f t^ivhcn you pircd in Muich, ISW. S"l'Po >•' Hnw could vou force him? buppose m^ twn to customs and excise duties, Let anj ^^nt-tirekind'^ Let a riot Uike place lu "^S Sc^a nunlber of buildmgs be d^ , V, iinilrc no one could recover a smg e S entirely unfit to act n tbc capacity ot a rep^ ^^^iiridto'.ccnistit^ionalJJ-^^^^ ^"%irom«ch^ Itwas tt the bravery of s|.uhen. mue . it of Egypt, but ?hm> l-laj^ies upon tl>-r enj^^^^^^^^^ Kgypt-to en n t _^^^. and talking ;i™,l';.r;";l» V''of ...» 1.0.., -»*«■■- a«'l t Mr Mhchell replied to me f follow... : grant. >U. .. oxAwA, Sept. l8t, 1868. T ui«.^e no teh.,a-am. of any kind on tne cubject. Peter Mitch sli-." ■t? 268 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS Mr. RVERSOV.— I said Mr. X. K. Clements telegraphed to me from Ottawa. Mr. Blanchard.— I did not so understand tlie lion, member. I distinctly hoard him my that the telegram came Irom >Ir. Mitchell, luid had to assure him that the money is ready at any moment whenever a suitable steamer is offered for the service. Now another gentle- man (Dr. MuiTH/) made a reference to a re- port of some remarks made in this city by Sir John A. MacDonald, and thereby T t<;legi-!iph- ed to him, and received this reply : Ottawa, Sept. 3rd, 1868. To H. Blanchard.— You asked D'e if I stated to any man in Ha- lifax that if he wanted Annexation he should sustain Confederation. I made no .such stat c- ment; and the asaertion that I did so is en- tirely incorrect. John A. MacDonalh. Mr. Morrison.— It was Mr. John Sandfield MacDonald to whom allusion was made;. Mr. BLANCHAiiD. — I'hat gentleman Is not a member of the Dominion Government— but Attorney General of the OnUu-io administra- tion; he did not visit this citj in connection with Dominion business; and the Dominion Government are not answerable for anything ha way have said. Now with respect to the remarks of the hon, member for Eichmoiid tMr. Flynn) I have but to say that he address- ed the House in a moderate, gentlemanly style that does him credit. He suued that the Kc- peal agitation had not interfered ^\'ith the tr< Canada is going in debt. The great country spoken of by the hon. member for ("olchester has increased her enormous debt by thirteen millions in a month, and that partly because the Repulilican party, anxious to go to the people with as jjlausibki a story as possible, lessened the taxes on some articles, the result, of which was as I liav(! .just stated. 1 will again quote Mr. Howe's letter of 1862 to show you the history of the debt of Canada — how jl was created bj^ the construction of importam public works necessary to promote the growth of that coimtry. He said : " The debts of Canada were incurred for the construction of canals and railroads, of the highest Imperial and Provincial importance. They were desigued to attract througli British territory a large portion of the trade of the great West. When the Intercolonial Railway f-j linished we shall not only control the tele- graphic ani.l postal correspondence of the Uestern states, but secure to the people of (irfat Britain at all sea.sons a steady supply oi breadstuffs; sliouid, unhappily, the Atlantic ports of the United States, in war, be closed against them. Who then will venture to as- sert that these were not elevated objects oi the highest national importance ?" I think this authority should be conclusive on that point, and I trust we shall hear no more about the debts of Canada being unre- (ii'esented by public works, when Canada tthat was) possesses within herself over 2300 miles of magnilicerit railway, and about oOO miles of canal, built at an eiKU'iuous cost, proving not only, as iSfr. Howe .said, of im mease advantage to that country, but to the moliicr country also. Rcl'erence ha* beiai made, time Mid again, in the course of tliis dcbiiie, to the at>l 'ointments made to the Legirlative Council by the Tujiper ( iovcnimeiit. 1 am not responsible tor those a|ipoinlmenls, but what does the whole matter amount to ? Two days before the (iovernmeiil resigned olHce, they appointed several Legis- lative Councillors, and #iey were entered in the ])roi)(;r books. That Government resigned uiid left the charge of public alliiirs to others. We had noliiiug to do with the gazetting of those appointments made before wo assumed oiHce. They were, at all events, well known to liu' count ly, ioi lliev uere pubiiahcd in the organ of the jiriisent Government. Hon. -J. Mcii.iniioii and Mr. Creelman came into the Executive as Legislative Councillors. A great deal of misconception has arisen from the sub- sequent gflXCUl the late Gover responsibility. them, for they uiont v^ith wh member said pointmeut thi vernmcut lia\ men after th wish that the lors should bi brought in fel some point ol Council and : ti solemn exi her should b ing that the theuiselves ' declaration, original nun It was imi into the lonj he opposed him, 1 woul the [inpcrisi xo the who Appeal, bee the rich mr fact, it won could appl} 10 the ben< to Engl(tu(' meant; of v JTow it w: apply to a nion its(df, water to expense. llshed, but vantages ' The ha and withe Mr. Adde said resp< which wn He srdd t manufacl to the in This Hon; off a cen' his frien( iiery iu t They cr into an ( done V laenccd lederali< manuf,;< vinee al has, he ^>revent It th;il ( the Cav ciple V (lorsed. subject to the told U! again. Honor tlemm Gover Can 1 HaUfa OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 269 ,hc.lateGovemo^a.a.o >ed.a^ not .gazette ,.oal Willi - » J,i^'\ ;■:., ,ld not uccept an ap- meinbor saal that he nnuu n ^ ^^^^^^ ^^^ poiatnu-nt tia^s ."'J ;,,| .^^'i',, j. <,t- geuUc- wish that the nnmber ot l^^S''','^^; vesohition lor. shodd b. -£'tSund in cLsequenoe ot' brought 111 toll to iiK i^iou between the ConneJ and House, luu » , , „,„ „um- a solemn e^f'-'^«='"'' ^' / ' "iT >^^t.vwithstand- her should bo '""'^hned to 1« . ing that the present <^','\\ ' ""• ^y,,Cim^ this tl^mselve. *^ -;^:ftf .e^'-"'^l ^ ^^^" deelaration, and fill uig up original nunibev. j ^^^^ member It was i'"POSSible to o kn t ^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ hito the long string «;»"".'; ,^,.,o to foUow he opposed Conledem on '^^^ i^^^e of him 1 -ouUUiave to ;;^'^^,^f ^^^j,,,,^ extendcl the [mpevial -^^:^v . 'iVi .cted to the Court ol .othe ^vhole He objuAea^j^^^^^^ ^^^ Appeal becausj .^^^^^^^^ ^f the poor-iu the rich man at 'lic "^^^.^l.w.ch the rich alone fact, it would be .court ^ -^.ch t^,,^ ;, n,ore could apply^ ^'['Cvk'hm ^vhocan appeal to the beneht o ''^^ "^h M .^„^ ^i.^. to England, and ean-y '^^"^J^^ ,aiow hhn. meant, of what a poor in .[yes us ad- llshed. but I trust it wiU J' ;, ",\,, f.ir.eqnire. vantages whi.h -;;•"" J '^^ ..oiiles next, The h'Ji- meiubei »"> |l\\ i^^, criticism of ,n,d without following ^X^noxk^e what lie Mr. Adderley-s speecb, I ""J J"^*^^^ ^,,^..a; mid .uid r..specting the "If J " //I ^ "ov for him. which was e 'l'"^'- "'^^" "wnu>fit t ifi Canadian He srdd that, in o^?^"^ ^"^'^.^t 1 ad been added mamifactmers,adutyotacei ^^^ ^^^ ^,, to the imported ^^y "^J^- J^l^^.o ■> ^^^e took This House two or till u^.>^a>-^_^, ^,^ ,„,„elit off a cent troiu v^iw suga ,^> ,,,,iblishing a reti- his friends, who weie . bmi- < ^.^,,,^^^i,.,, .^ale. uery in this eiiv on .i ^ ^ ^„„,,-^i . -ukI went TUey coim.ieneed >' \ " "';• what has Kep.'al into an enonnous <'" J>.\;.^'^ J^^t h.ive eom- .loiie V These, f ^'l' ' 'l" . ,,,uket that (Jou- ,.KM,ced nu> work wiU m. . n ^^.„^,i,, „.d,.ralicm would !^' \'^' , ,ban Ibis I'ro- HKinufietuve m one ^^'^^'^,, ^ear. K«l'eal vluee uloue ^'""J .,;; ^" ^ und-'Haking, and hits, however, ^toppi | V'.': , ^bo benelit trom _n.,;vented the peoi e < ^u ve ot='>'"l;.,"° the hon. mem ,.ver been contemplated. • ihen tue no _ - ^^'''I'^'^^'^'Svo, a eorrespondcnee her under; ook to V^^^l^ ""^^llv Bruce, between Lord ^.I"'-^^'^ f J J' . \,\d Keeiprocity that .N-ova Seotia ''""W lj;^\',t.''i eorrespon- by bei^elt. ^'^i -b^f -^^j^U to reduce the deuce IS thiL, .-- it i^ i ,,.nt., but duty on Nova '^'■'^''''^^^1^}-^,T\^ reduced be- the United States ^WjlJ*^'^^"", because th^re is low ten per cent, ad ^.j^ ^^^^^'''^'^I'i^rueces.saries ,, heavy tax 'n»>'\f'^.^j,^^i^ 'therefore, iu used by A.i)erieau ^^ f "^™yu,bt to keep so justice to these <'f "^f '^'^^.^"ickerel, Lc, ,uuch duty ^-f^^ Z-^,, ^i.,0. ' The an- that IS to sa>,!!?l"t->i ( u xve cannot eu- -ver from Loi-d ^^^^ because all the „.rinto^,ueh ^n au.ui«e - _ r^,; ^ p^.^ves ,>,ovinees must be -^ ;"J^;^^i^,,^ cannot b<, what I'^a-^^i'^ '^^•-'^^■'"'P"frio„o Does the K^eiproei. V with ""<• - JXi;'^ not the oul, hou. niember lorget t'*'"^ 'f " , -.inu-itY V Yet article tor which we require Ke. ip u^^j ;^speaks as though U^ we eU^^^^^^ coal inlorests are ol 1 ai K c ^^^' \^^^ ,osi- hc, wouUl Ignore t^'';:" !; ' , .^ ^ ;, ti,b,and noth- ^''"^ ^''''^'^V riveSl S^a llts ibr our tish-^ lug else. ^,^^.'''^'^.'''m'^,. _but our natu-:al ^'^^I'^'^'lS r'in^emmulacturing cities ot coal market is i t lu menioer says he the United States. U-tiou. .ou„ds. is ready to ^^^^^^^^^ to bcfderived So are we all. ih. •^'f; '""; ° ,ble grounds, no irom a tr.at> Jxised^on equ u Ue ^g^^^ ^^ ^^^^^ oue can deiij . oo tai tl.. ^^ ^j^g Amo- «ides. ^\ e «1'"«1,^ ""^ ^^, ; t .:,L? but we may ,icaas and iisU f'J^.^'^;;^^^!,' Spirit of good show a desu'J to niett t « ^ ^^ ^,^ j^ir will, and frame .^''^l^^^^^'t^:^ .^ hon. member 10 all pavtK-s inteve-^ed^ Uli-^^ .^,b>,t aext took U3 across '1 <-' ;;"_-'^ .'^^^,^,, or Irish, .' he had been m the hovel.= oi i 270 DEBATES AND PROCEEDTNGS and slooil on tlicir niii 1 lloors." I wonder il' lio hud also a glasd ol' good old poteen. Wlml ronneofion tlitit incident of his tvavelM hud witii tlio ijut'Ation before tlio House I wna ulierly iin- iible to porc(nve. I now conic to the iHst l)ut by nf) nioanH thi; leiwt — tiic i'lovinciid Hccietarv , and .shall re- fer to tlio financial part of tiic subject, on which he hiis joined is'^iio with uic. He as- serted that this ' pi-oviuco had lost .'js;J8G,471 br conl'ederating v.-ith Canada. I laid before thf^ House calculations made l\y inyself and by Mr. Tims, ditTering in no inii)orlnnt jiartieuliir, thou4;h taken from dilVcroiitstand-point.s. '.fhe c'rovincial Secretary, taking the same stand- point, undertook 1o prove that under Con- federation' wo have 1 O.St the snni of ^■,"80,471, which hu^);,'(nie to Canada and has not been spent Sbr the good of tliis province. Is it not a very extraordinary liiet tliat the lion, iiiem- ber has not charged IS' ova Scotia, with a dol- lar of inti rest on her imblic debtf NVliy i^ that .' At tlie .same time Canada was paying' interest, its the Coniniis^ioner.s of tla; fkncrn- ment show,on over ,^'8,000,000 ;and yet the hon. ir'dmber only gives credit on $;3,000 delien- tures for live months. Now how would Nova Scotia have stood if we had not been confeder- ated at all? With this surplus of $380,471 Nova Scotia would have had to pa.y the in- terest on ,>'8,000,000— that is, !j;480"000. So deducting' that aniounl alone — which had we not been united must have b;'cn paid by Nova Scotia — and I bring him in dei)t nearly $94,- 000. I a.sk tliiit these calculations should go to the country and appeal to the common- sense of the people, who will at once sen through the wilful my.stifications of the hon. member. Was it fair to leave out this $'8,000,- 000 altogether. Will he expl;rin on what grounds he did it ? He cannot; ami very wi.'si;- ly for himself and his party he refrained from attempting such a ste|). What more did he do ? He has made an egregioas error with respect to the isill6,000. This country had all her arrangements stopped on the Ist Jul}", 1867; all the debts due by the province at that time had to be paid; all the revenue ov(!r "«vbich tiie General CJo .'ernmcnt obtained con- trol aftsr thp.t d.ite had tf> be given over to it. Therefore it wa'i lime for th(.' pro\ ineo to take stoctc. '' The lirst thing to do was to a.scert:un what a-isel."? she had, and to whom she was indebted. What has the hon. member done ? He has taken the whole of the arrears that this Pro- vince owed and capitalized them into deben- tures. He said we might have talcf u all the money that we owed in the .siiape of arrears und ))Ut it into debentures, and therefoi'e wi^ uit; not properly ehargerl with anything but interest. He takes the asset- which have -iinee been collect(>d, ,«;116.000, and adds it l^' the revenue. It was the money that .should be approjjriated to tlr debts as they existed at that moment. He 18,48S, against the Pro- vince. Mr. N'ail omitteil the interest on de- bentures sold in London, which, with the in- terest chargeable on cap.ital, I make $•.'502,000. Stm, Sir. X'iiil iir<)iio>ed to allow .$;!0,000, and this I may deduct, and you have ilie euieulatiou tlias : 1. — Mr. Viiil includes the rec(>ipt on an'oars in his revcniK! ,'■-.•110,204.0.5, M-hilo he deducts the expenditure from the Total. This ■will re- duce, his a.ssuiiKHl loss of $;58G,471 to $270,267 11. 2. — He omits entirely the interest on De- bentures iiayalile in liondon which (together wit 1 1 interest on ey.i'enditt»i"es in Nova charged to capital) makes ,$302,000. But as Mr. Vail purposes to give the Dominion $::,0,000 to meet this large sum it mav be deducted aud carried out $332,000.00 1st item carried out. . 270,207.11 « 01,732.89 318,488.00 .\dd to this the net arrears (my statement of gain to Nova Seo- tin) and vou will have the sum of ■■. $330,220.89 Further, I have not charged inter- est on d(>posits in Sa\aug3' JJauk", which has always been an annua! charge, viz. : 4 per cent on ,$0;37,700 26,308.00 $406,528.89 So I have turne I that S380,000 gam to Can- aila into a loss of ,$400,528.80. We do not dil- fer in the respect of how much money is iu the arrears or in the re\-eiiue, but in th(;i mode in which it ought to he charged. J'l looking over the JouinaLs of this House, I found to my great surprise that I had omitted the sum of $20,308 due Savings Bank for iulere.-it. If a man brings in £6 or £.30, he get.s his intw'cst every six montlis ; and if lie does not choo.sc to draw it it is add(.'d to the |irincipid, and interest paid on the whole, and thcreibre becomes comi;ouud interest. At this moment the Savings Bank ow(e amoiuU which was charged ns arroaw, and la that w:iy the amount was reduced. It doeH not, then- fore, prove any erroi' in my calculations. Un theconU-arv, it proves my accuracy. Did the Provincial Secretary atUick my fu'Sl stiittinent. :Not he ; he knew better. 1 1 o brings in a coun- ter statement, and very careliiUy avoul« attaok- mgmine. But do 1 imitate hi3 cxamp e ?- No. 1 attacked liis statement, and have shmvn two on-ors— one making a diiierenee oi .*4»U,- 000, another ol #116,000, and thus bustain my first statement most triumphant y. 1 regrei that I liavc occupied so much ol the time oi thi8 House. It is very diflicult on a question of sucli magnitude to abridge one's obsena- tions, without destroying the Ibrce ol what one '"'ifeeritmy duty to apologize to the Hoase for havmg delay ul them so long, but I am sure they appreciate my i)osition m havmg to reply to some eighteen gentlemen. /.".''•> • Lowever, .ay that 1 notice that the mibMchzcd organs o Khe (ioveiunient undertake to banie mi for the protracted character ot t us debate. Sow in mv e.M.erience of this Legislature-an experient>e"extending over eight or l^"" yf^i;s- I have never seen a House in session foi thict weeks that did the same amount oi business Instead ofbemg short of work we I'-Jvf .;;»'»' eontrary, kept the clerks constantly busj- sometiiucs, indeed, unable to keep up wi h iis 80 that we were obliged tu stop opera o"- I undertake to say that not a single dodai as been wasted in this debate-our business ia» been as well advanced as it was possiule. S-eforewe have not lost ,fr6 000 as it has been a.saerted. 1 hope no o'^' l.oweve hui - ble will ever be denied m ihis House tl<. vight of expressing his o,Mnions fairly and iull> lAlore the rein'eseutatives ol the peopk. When the peuj le send a nam here no powei on earth can denude liim ol his rights. A\ u - iherlam here a long or short tune, I shall ex"4' tbat right fuUy and conscientiously whenever I feel the inter.^sts ol my country demand it. and shall call upon the Governmen ™he House to suj.port me in perlormmg what I believe my duly. It woukl be a great misfortune to this country were 'J'l-V «»^; < «;• imrredfrom exercising aright ;yl>uli lesat the very basis of the tree msUtutions that ^nc '''l^onclusiou I will only add that ] am fully conscious 1 have proved to the sat.slaction o X unbiassed per^sons ^''"1 /'; ^j?;!^ S' lai'Kelv bv the Union, and I hope that g. itl. !h«i around these benches, and more pal .<.- iurlv the people of>iova Sco1.a,lmvingpo>wk d ,>,umly over .he facts and =''«"."";",'';;V "itr ■„Kve adduced, will e..ase, to ""l" *^'; ,' j tiie.uad dream of Kopeal, and knalh and manfully " accept ihesituat.on. 'I'lii'UHDAV, Sept. ;jri ■in,„ iio..«e liU't Ml half-past tv.'o o'clock. Hon ATTV. Gln. introduced a bill to amend Chap 121 K.y.> respecting Mines and Mmei- alH. iVlso, a bill to incorporate the Low Point Mi- ning Co. . . Dr. Bkown, a bill to appoint Commissioners to appraise damages by railway in Ring3. Also bill to amend chap. 70 K. S., respecting rail- way«. Also, bill lo provide lor the settlement of certain cases now pending ill the Supreme Court \vilh regard to riuhvay damages in Kings. , , Mr. D. :^IcDoxAi>i>, bill to luconiorate tlie Atlantic Gold Mining Co. lion. Mr. CooHKAN, bill to amend aet re- g.irdiug Poor's Asylum in HaUfax. Mr. N'oiniup, petition of A. \V. Andei-son and othei-s, against BiU of Corporation of Hali- fax re-speoliiig Education. Also, bill to incot- porate the Mcintosh Gold Mining Co., to amend act incorporating North Sydney Marine Rail- way, to incorporate Stadacona Gold Mining Company, incorporate the Pictou Mining Com- '' Mr. KiKic, bill io provide for tlse paymontof ceitain liabilities in the County of Guysboro'. Hon. Mr. Tkooi', bill to anand act iiicoqio- rating Win.lsor and Aniiai)olis K. K. Co. Xiv. Bla.vciiakp, bills to incorporate tho ■Montreal and Glasgow Coal Mining Co., and to idter act incorpomting the Zioii's Church, Ha- Mr. Kir.ii, bill to provide for the opening and construction ofCubin Kond to the Gold lields, (iuysboro-. Hon. Mr. Fkuolsson, bill lo amend ohnp, 128 and chap. 155 K. S. Mr WnrrE, bills to incorporate the Glacft Bay c;oal Mining Co., and to facilitate the wor- king of water coal mining areas. ^„ . ^ „ Mr. Smith, bill to amend chap. 28 ol acts ol (il'/regulating the leLuni of incnibei-s to serva iu the General Assembly. . Mr Pliidy, hill to incorporate the Cnien Temple of Good Templars, ^\'illiamsdale, Cum- berland. Mr Smith reported Irom Couunittce on Jiaihvay damages in favor of the aiipointment t.f (Joiumissioners; the report was received and adopted. The bill introduced hy Dr. Brown deals with this subject. ,-.• p „, Hon Puov. Sec. presented a petition from the Diocesan Church Synod, in relerenee to S;-.liool matters. . Mr Bi.\NcnAKi) expressed lus sui-prise at seein" sach a petition coming from so respecta- ble and intelligent a body; the P^^i'-on was to make schools oi)en to the lasUuetion ol all the cleiKVinen. Hon \TTV. GEX.said that ihore are many ■ u-rsons who think that allLducation should be Irx^vA on the Bible, and ho did n<.t mmd eon- r,..it he cerlamly trusted that seeluliscourteous treatment as that uroposed would not be allowed. Mr Blvncuauu said that the hon. member might move that llif. pre.senler , f tla- i.eiition liave k-ave to willulraw it. H)-i Mr Ft;i!(;!'r<,Rns hoped the jietition would be received, as it came from those do- serving the most courteous tmitment. 272 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS Dr MuriRAT did not sec nny objection to tho. J'eptionorihc petition, lor it cUd not follow tVint iUwould be adopted. MrDicKiE^aid that if Uie V^^y^^^K"^; netilion were carried out then we would havr CSularspectaclo presented o> el.-r«y.u.n going into the public, school, and arrangu.g the pfipil under their respectivo heads, and givmg Ihi'in religious instruction. He uiov.;d that the hou. gentleman (Mr. Vad) have leave to withdraw the petition. Mr NoRTiif P was of opinion that the pet i tion should be received and sent to the Com S'e on Education, whose duty it wa« to re- reive sucgeslions oi all kindu. ,• i- „ Mr lii ANC'iiAiU) had no particuhir leeln.g on the subject, but it might save time to denl Sthc petition at once. He wa. certainly cDDOsed to the praver of the petitionev.H. Ton ATTV. GF.NL. said that the nio.t re«- peo'fnimode of dealin;^ whh the petition was to send it to the Conumiti e. . Mr Smith expressed his siirpris,- that tlieic should be an V hesitancy in receiving th'M';'*'- S after the system pursued throughout the session with respect to all petitions. Hon Mr Flynn said it was only toreeeue the petition and send it to th- Committee. Mr Whitf s'ud he did not think tlial tlie hon member for Inverness .|'.ulo. api.'.-,..ewterl the exact natmre of the petition. Dr. Brown was in favor ot the rcc , lion ol ^Sanchard said he understood that the, moUon of his lion friend (Mr. Dickie) would not be pressed. , Tho petition was received and sent to the Committee on Education. „ .^..i,;,,,, Hon Fkov. Sec. laid on the table a [K tilK^n of the" ovei'^eers of the poor, Pietou: but it apiieared the matter was betbre the Committee of Public Accounts. Ilebate on tUc Kcpeal Kes^alutiouH. HON. ATTORNEY GENERAL'S SfEECll. Hon. ATT'Y. GENERAL sai.l :-Mr. Speaker I am about to close the debate on thes(3 resolu- tions, and I ho,,e th.t neither nor the liouo , able niember for Imerness will ever nc called on to debate this .subject again. 1 ^''"'"f " > expect sir, that before we meet herei.ext ^^uv ter it will hove received a inwl dccsion j r, d the people of Nova Scotia wi 1 know then lati aB regards confcderati.Mi. An nT.mense^dea has been said on the subject, and il is ciifticult to present anything new to the House m rela- tion to it. Tlie hon. member lor Inverness, m defending Canada, as he has mast "''b.f one- has completely exhan.sted the «>".i;'^';- '■ ,' he has done more ; he has brought mto the de- bate a great deal of matter tliat need not have been irnporled into it. He has, however, male for Canada the ablest defence probably which could have been made tor her in the pecuhar position in which she is placed. W^^^J-' lawyer cannot mak(. a bad cas." good, but the hon. member has done as much towards re- pairing the leaks in the Canadiin cause as any other man in the count ry could have done, but he very ^. Iselv, thror.ghout his vuhvminous Bpcech, eluded the reui Hue.,;K>n, r is .oo lr< - .luently done. Membeiis are too apt to Jorget the subject matter under consideration, and to indulge in the discussion of matters which are totally irrelevant. What is Ure real question before the House under the resolutions ou the fable ? It soea.s to me to le-olvo itHelf into a tsuiall and narrow compass, imd to bo simply tliis: Nova Scotia alleges tliat a lintieh lin- pt-riid Act has been passed wincH entirely alters the constitution of tlie country without tlic consent, and against the will of the peopl«, imd they contend iliat a sUilute passed under sncii circumstances is illegal and uneonstitu- lional. That is one ijosition wliich wo tiiko ; the second is that th'3 (constitution which hw* been created by the Imperial statute coalers on the legislature in Canada such overwlielmuig intluence that it has tho power to impose taxa- tion to an unhmiled extent on N'ova ScuUa, and that the people of Nova Scotia are not re- presented in that Parliament, and consequenUy that they arc subjected to tho grievance oi being taxed to hu unlimited e.\tenl by a legis- lature over wliich they liave no kind ot luUu- ence. Had tlu? hon. member for Inverness confined himself to the consid-ratiun ol these subjects, he could not hav uecupied moio thaii an hour, whereas in h , sev.'ral disc-our scs ho consumed live or si.v hours, and m the course of hi.s remarks he has not touchert directly or iiicidwitiilly either of the main questions of the dub.ilo. His remarks were entirely of a discursive nature, and were almost entirely irrelevant to the subject matter helore the House. Had h ■ eonhned himselt to that subject matter, hr would have been liere to deny that the peoi)le were taxed against then- will and against their consent,— he lias not pre tended to do so, and he knows fuU well that he could not do so. It was not in the nature ol things that he could produce evidence to viiisiv the House that the consent of the people had been oblioncd to the British North Ame- rica Act before its iiassage. He has not at- tempted to bolster up and defend the misre- ..i-csentations contained in the despatch ol tlie Duke of liuckmghain, which from begmini.g to end i-; a complete tissue tif misstatements ol fact and when examh.ed will be found to con- tain' no one single assertion which is exactly according to the truth. It contains one ti.ct whicii has something like a simihtude to the truth, and that is all ; the re.,t is pure inven- tion from beginning to end. The only case in which the hon. member at- tempted t J defend the Uuke of Buckingham was when he undertook sosliow that one ol the state - meiits contained in the resolutions and in the Minute of Council was a mis-rcpresentation o the fact. The l>uko of Buckingham had saul that Confederation originated m Nova Scotia; the Minute of Council showed to the world that this idea was eian.lylallacious, and thai Confederation never was named m any i-esola- tion which was debated within the wallsot tins Assembly before 1864, when the Quebec scheme "was promulgated in Canada; so that the statement on whii;h the Duke rehed to support his position was entirely without loun dation. 'i be hon. member for Inverness un dertook to show that that sUitement was en- tirely incorrect, because hi 1854 a debate tnok i.lace on a resolution wiiich did contain tlint, vend Now, wlieic did he get his authority In 1854, considerhig his then political relations, he would not have believed a syllable that ap- peared in the " Colonist," and that is the paper OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 273 from which he derives his inspiration of to clr.y, —that is the Scripture on which he toumls In • political faitl. in 1868; and he f"'";:« ^erc am cites from it a rcHolution which rtillcis horn that on the Jouranab. i do not want luchurgo him with having doncthi. intentionally: but it was surely his duty, when he undeilook t-- condemn a statement made by the (government to have derived hisinformationlrom tlie i.rop.ir source-horn the Journals ol' Ibo ll<."^t= t'^^"'^ Xes. When we look at the journals -ve hnd that the statement contained in the Mmutc ol Council 1, literally correct, that the statem-nt made in he -Colonist" is falne, and tl-.a m point ot fact there is not on the records any resolution ever debate.) in the legislature "' -»-h 1- word Confedcnilion is mentioned belore 1804 ■riie hon. gentleman has not iitb-mpled to v M« Leofour positi.nis as regarcLs t^ie uuh^^^^^ ed powere of tuxulion pwsessed by thfc Cana diun legislature. He has not Htt^mpte.! to show that that legislature is so Vonstitu ed as to make the people of Jiova Scotia sate in re- Sr^ to their property-that in point ol lact fhey uive not' the i i-ht to over-tax our people wUhout their consent. He has not atU^mpJ^a to refute what we have ass.nne( , but he has undertaken to t,..ll us what has l^een done in Canada saying that Canada has taken the duty oTS article, mluccd the duty on tlus, and That clada to done this, that, and the other. S that is no answer to the charge wliici. we SffTgainst the Act. If Canada hm done uS utmost imaginable favor she would on y have been iprudent because her PO hcy^ t< LSirtlirSf Srconi5^d'an\ ^S'rs^lS; I bcdie. e the reverse to be^thc -«- - - ';;e'i;^,o de^e abandon. ; fact. I beUevc that it Canada has t^^e a cent 1 rur p ^^^^.^.^^ Govei-nment c or two olT a letter she has put a cent on ah u hole atno ^___ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ^^ ^.^^^ of exchange, or note, or newspaper ; and that fSvomCanacUUiaVingover^axe.! the people^ Nova Scotia she had paid for us so.ue hun m^s '^thousands of dollarsmore than .he had 1^^^^^^^^^^^ ed from ns. Now this amount, which Caiiatlc ?s sai?Uo have advanced for Nova Seot.a is o a very flexible character; it eou.ineuee.l with a verv few hundreds of thou^md., ""'> '^ /"^^ Jot up to six or seven ; and I believe tha c £ men.lR.rhas it ""* ^i hw power nlie 1 his calculations, to say what sum ' ; "M;;^^ da has paid for us over and above hei utcii X^ft^^mSer is tbnd of anecdotes an^^^^ ^illcrive him<- A gentleman u. tngla ul had the hah, : dealing in the hgure hN- erbole a .vhen the roots of his imagination C^wallred by the Juice of tbe graj.e >t be- came exceccUngly fertile and F;o'1;!.''\^;^/, f, osaiT^erations became so i-emark ible that iiis famtw found it necessary to send a cont^ n- SsLant to attend him at ^huner 1 ut^e^ This was done with his own consent its he wa^ awarr;)f his failing and the B«vyant . ohu ^J^^. tn Uvv hhn a touch whenever he exaggei.ited. 0,f "ne o casion he be.,u, to tell tbe con,miy at when at the Cape of Good Hope h. long, said : "No, 35 no, it' wa^"twenty feet." dolin in touched him again and he added that his me- mory was defect've, but the tail was, at least, seventeen feet long. John K>J^« »''«» """^her touch upon wh>hhe «wore t hat the tail wai not less than Hftficn leet. Jonn touched him ajr.iia when he turned and excLnmcd, why •iT.hn, confound your impudence, do you mean to say that the monkey had r.o tail at all. By the hon. member's calculations, which were somowlmt lik ; that uentleman's stones. 1 think it probable that if it were subject to careful examination, and the hon. genUe- man had a John standing behind hnn, it would have turned out that Canada's 0Vould that shew that she h;is not the power of taxing us next voir h80;)000? We do not complam so Vnueh fhat 'she has done this or that, but that the Statute gives her the power of vobbing t^e people of Nova Scotia, and we say that that Act^shall not rest on the Statnte Book to bind the people of this country. It is ^i\^''%^^ this moment to explain, in the most clear ana a sfactory mann.-r the policy of Nova ScoUa in regard to Confederation in order that the peor-fe of Canada, the people ol i-^nglnad, ami The people of this countrj' may thoroughly comprehend the course which ,he Government mid the Legislature are taking on th" present occasion. We know full well that the Bnt^jsh Lnperial Statute, havhig been P'.'^sed without I e consent of Nov, Scotia, is void and a dead tSraslar «s this country is^«>ncerne^ con- whole action Ol iiiuaj»""=" ■; — --- . ., rins us in the opinion that the Act is void - tliP Duke of Buckingham m Ins Despatcu besnot Vretendevei tohave received rom tt c"own Ofticei-s of Kngland any opinion fimaof the constitutionality ol the Statute. esavstiat the Nova Scotia people angina- t,l he de of Confederation, that t«ey d.- I, Li the Act and were the tii-st to suggest it, : d it^li heas^eits that he has been m- 11 at has, '"J^'-' . , ^ ^ jv.ar of contradiction. SS c^'tiU uJ^of this Province has been manner bouiiti m im lu beina <'..,.„i.i Hciii"- consc'ious' 01 tins laci, ucmb fhv^virt eof the Statute illegally and uii 1 1 o„rt tipfore every constitutional lawyci world and betore tvt,^ mtvintained, Jiuiopc and AnKiica luiv . IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) ^ f/. 1.0 I.I 1.25 [fia iiM 2.2 us ■- IIIIIM 1.8 U illlJ.6 P> <^^ ^1 / /^ V ^'^i 6^: Hiotographic Sciences Corporation 33 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, NY. 14580 (716) 872-4503 ^ ^y" i/ ^ 21\ DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS through the Legislature hi this Sessiou, tliat the Statute was void and a dead letter as re- gai-ded tlie people of Nova S(A)tia. We are asked why we did not do so ? We have not tliought it prudent to do no. We have acted, as we believe, a wiser part. Wo found that the Queen, the Lords and the Com- mons of England had been deceived, and jtn- iresred with a confidence in the desire for .lus- tice in that body, and believing that when tbey came to undei'stand the deceit which lui(" been practised upon them, there would be no danger but that Nova Scotia would receive re- dress, we preferred taking the milder, safer, and more ynodei-ate courso which we propose than to fly in the face of the British authon- ties and declare ourselves free. We liad an- other reason for doing so. The Queen ol England, through her minister, has inloniied the people of Nova Scctiii and pledged himsell that Canada shall do justice to Nova t^totjft— that all the wrongs which the statute inflicts on Nova Scotia shall be redressed. We -mo. bound, I think, to rely on a promise so solemn- ly made as this is. We rely on the known character of the Queen, of her Peers, of her House of Commons, and t.'c beheve that her ministei-s, having pledged themselves to a cer- tain course, thev will be compelled to pui-sue that course and' execute that pledge. There- fore it was that we preferred adojiting the i)re- sent position to coming out and declaring our- selves free, and we did so on sound pnnciples of nolicy. If we had done otherwise we would have exonerated the British government from their pledges, we would have said in iiomt ol fact : " we have taken the law into our own hands, we do not want youi. assistance." Ihe British minister would have suid, " as you have taken the matter into \()ur own hands vou liavc cxoneiated me." We were deter- "uiiiied not to exonerate him, but to give liiui an opportunity of fulfilling his pledges, and fherelbre v,e have pui-sued the present course. Instead, then, of declaring oui-aelves absolute- ly I'ree we have thought it better to declare our resolution to extricate oui-sclves from Con- federation by all constitutional means, and by passive resistance. Now, sir, this couree in- volves no evil consequences, and places us m a very high position. It renders our loyalty un- suspected, it shews to the British goverimient ' with what reluctance the people of Nova Sct)- tia would attempt to resist the ImperJid autho- rity, and it shews to our own people t hat we are resolutely determined to gain their libera- tion. We have in I'aet resolved to adojit. c- — - -- changes in the Constitution given to these Col- onies bv the Act for their union. Its frame- work inust be ) nccesfiary that the Constitution tie so framed as to give to tlie Maritime Provinces as strong an iiitluencc in the Senate of the, l^umiiiion as Canada pa«)»e8- ses in the House of Commons. Before the people of NovaScotii" can think of sitting down in ( onledenition, they muNi lie placed in sudi n iiosition iw to enable them to meet Canada on ^,,j....i |,.,.jns in the Lcirislalure.. mid to enable them to prevent Canada from trespassing in any manner on their rights. In my estimation this can only be delegates were si the Colonies— 01 gglves — it was \ shoxild take plat American Color five : Canada, . Prince Edwurc Had such a v should have coi tt-emendous mn seas in the Hou prepondei-nnce counterpoised, and each of th< number of seni the American their splendid of wisdom in ' the Quebec scl of senators t( what its pop of that union States was lai of these Colo poses of legi State were ai ingly comme membei's. ( population o 1 ants, must 1 United Stat« millions, ha^ cordingly ni because Cai travagant. not the intc that sent arose they ' this House, from the 1 eeive theii would hav that case -v because, v; House, v« proportioi she wouW taken out lar with ( numbers revenue. safe. Bv order thi sve om-8€ senatoi-s. degrade! moke la; be uppoi only be freeman Havii stitutioi would ( that an Statute as the entei-ci should majori do so, incurr lYOUid aon n OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 275 Uus can only be *1,<^^^« J^^JL confederate delegates were ^«^^,,\<^^,.^Xn they f^ent thenv the Colouies-or i-alhei ^J^" \,/^i^,i.ai Union .elve^it was proposed that ^ *^^,,.,^, ^^^.^^^ shoxild take place among an ^^^^ American <^oXo...^^;;'i^,lt^o.. Scotia, five : Canada, f ^Yio^H uud Newtbundl«nd. Prince K'^^'^'-f,„jXeu consUmated they Had such a ™?t^'^t in order that the should have contended ^Mt, ,„^tpo«- u-emendous ma.iority wmcn ^^^^^^ ^ in tbe ^ouseoiCom^^y^y ^^^^ ,, prepondei-ance ol her [/^j^ritime Colonies Lount«rpoised ^?f^„„?L should have an equal and each of the Canadas jhom ^^^^ ^ number otsenato^mthe^^W^ StateB ivamed the Amencaus ot the^ I ^^^^^^ .^ ^ „„ i<, their splendid ConsMuii ^^^.^ ^^^,,,i of wisdom in co^^'Pf ".^°^ "^^"e an equal number the Quebec scheme, they fe^^« ^^^J^^ „„ „i,tter of senators to each ol tm ^^^,. ^j,„„ what its P0P"l«C^°fthe popxilationof the of that union, '^^""f the present population Stat^swaslargert an the P^^ ^^^^ ^^^ of these Coloni<^, they t«nmi ^^^^ ^^^^ poses ofleg^lation tm. st^ they aecord- ^tate were amply ^Vj^^'^f j^;,,f^te of twenty-^^ix ingly commenced with a bu , ^.jth a nopulation of two o\ ^^'^''^J^ .enatow as the faAts, must bcS'H witn ^ n a»y ^^^. ,,,^rt,.tbuv United StateB, with ^ por"' ^ j^^,. s.mutoi-s ac- miUions, have at V^^'^^^'^^^J -Hii. -as dofte cordingly number ^^^^^^otiiiug that is not ex- because Canada «f^,;°X°r should represent, travagant. Those s.natois ^^^^ i,^.i,Mnre not the interests otcanaua^^^ ^^^^ ^^^ that scut them tbeu- ^^^^etious Irom arose they would take te ^ ,^^ this House, as tbe I nitec ^^^^^^^^ ^.^.. from the State Legisli tures.. ^^^^^j two eeTe their r^ructiom ^n ^^.^^'^^ jn would have ^'-'^^f ^''^^ U^en perfectly sale that case we would »;*^^ ted in Uie Lower because, white greatty^ out vote^^ ^ ^^.^^.^^ ^,^ House, ve should hu^e as g ^ „, proportion over Canada in ii^^ j she would have below. N>^ -^-^^^ for del- Skenoutof tbe common ^llest ^^ lar with Canada ^^ jytriJion to the public numbei-s and our coiitnDu ^^^^.^ ^^^,, revenue. <-r ^'^'^'^^'''lave been necessary, in safe. B«t it ^]^?"'J;t^^t on «^^«"^'^ exist, th.t order that tbe Constitution ^^^^ion ot our we om-selves sliould ba^e ui geoUa so senatoi-3. I^ 'bere '^!"","ttbe senators who degraded as ;« rrrUff and property should ,n^e laws to ""* ^^^Jf' S«ch L man would '^Sigsecu^dui^^ssiu;;^^ «Utution, which alone cou ^^^^^ ^,,,,t would demand anothei CO ^^ put on he that an Impenal l^^tiite t . j^^^j^^ing that Statute Book ot t/^^^^^^*^i^ had voluntanlv as the Piovinceof ^ova bcotia ^ ^j^^ Tntei-cd into ^ ontederaUou ^^j ,, Sid be at Uberty ^^ any ^ ^^^ ■ j, ,^1 1 to majority of h«n-op\e ^^-^„,,tion w Uunit do so, to walk out oi .^ . i upt -ouning ;;r43Ss whic^h in «iy -^-; SSundu";"us to accept Contedn.u ,nd we would take.ione l^'' than Uie^^ J^^ I would then go astep furti. ^ ^^ thtvt these are «« opinions o. ^^^^^^.^^^j I^ova Seoti-i, and betort m i^be ^^^ should bo touched the questton^^ ^^^ .nitted to them at the polls ^o.^.^^^ ^j, j, j selves, ^ow, tli^o aic c ^ ^ ^^ pvesuaie ^'^"'^da woulW ^^. ^^^^ ^.^^bing because they would piwen ^ ^g^y hard Nova Scoua, ^d that woiU .^^_ ,i cuae indeed. It was ner ^ ^j. o^. formed the Contederat ou to lay^ ^^^ ^^ ^j,. i,roperty; f^^ ^^^ 1 femtion proceeded from out it; 'mdthusCoilulemn }^ pecuniary hBv desire to extricate hci^eli^^^^^^ iondiUons embarraasment. ^^ow, ^ . . unat^jeptablo would bo looked upon m enm y ^^ \o Canada, we tbcreioi^ cou^ ^et^y^^ ^J^ ^^ the conclusion which n^l^n ^^^^^^^ when they said it was impo^ ^^^ ^^^ f niake concessions to us. ^^^ ^,^^ 1« wrong, and IdovVbtmuci ^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^ of Nova Scoua, ^^en u^ advanUige- submitted to them even wu ^^^^^.^^ ou;^ terms, would be ^\>fe "^^ ^^Vith Canada nUion under any ^^[^"^^tions-one portion divided into fP'^-^J^^P^a separate language, of her people t^aMn^ a i • titutions, re- separate laws and «_^P«i^^^^^ .^^^^^j_ ^ that flying t.,amalgamate^-luo ^^^^^ ^^^^^ anv human mind in exisiei ^jy.eevear3? rconstitutiou that would -t ^m t^^^^^.^^^^„ and 1 believe that t it- >^^ J ^^ j^wn m a ?^,at could be framed r'^^^'^X misery, and sliort time, and end m u bloodshed. ^ i,ave refer to my Itisiiotplea-sautto^im^t ^^^^ ^^^^^^^, own speeches, ,\"t "^^ ^"c h of mine, and Inverness has raked up a « ^^j^^ „,y Me ex- has read a part oUtto^o ^^^^ ^^ „ pressions,Ileeli'-' necci^.' -;i, make on Lsomcofthertmm^swhici i ^^^^^^^ that occasion.. 1 «^^y'J^'^,!^;e o" that question in 1854 my 'nmd ^^^« as^^U ^^ ^ ^^.^^ ^f the Its it is to-day. ■'■^?„^'^"^.„ attention for many colonies had occupied "yaVe^ ,,,,d the con^ year9,-tothe l"f"^ „°/theJ Provinces, L had lectui'es ot the tuture « f e^r.^eechof 1854 ou ■y.ven much though, an ny^^ ^1^^ result ot Sir. Johnson's res^>luti.Mis?^^^ j have never the deepest PoW-^^f ^^^„ ,i„gie sentiment had occasion to aUei ^ ^ut have re- wliich I uttered on that otc^ .^.^^^ I^ he , mained P^^ef ^^^ "Uhrermodes . f operatmg coui-se of that debate three n confedera- Sunion bad ^-'f^^S^t^, and also a tion, a compact 1^'«^^^^"\,, the Imperial Par- union with reprcsenmtion in t ^^^^g^her Uamentweresugge»ted. i^^^^ ,^„^ !,,« in lav-or ot the lef'^'^f J^; miperial Parha- agaiust reprcscntatf 1 in tf e ^^ ^^^^.^^^ „^ ment, because I was ot opinio ^^^ ^^^. Ks to represent us in tl^eU|;P«^3^ ,,„^id b« representation m the i^y manner m ...LatoiT. I thought that tne combined with wShU^e colonies could be com ^^^^^^^ ^^. Lyhopeofsccunugto them ^ ^ ^e British coustiiuuon, JO ^^^^^^vely. kem a peerage a^idui^ingt^.^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^ (^-uss^t^^^p^nrs^^^^^^ dea of a Colonial Pf^«««'^f,ot original with % I H 276 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS i'l •n n mena of the present day tell me tJiat I amus Teata foo) a« Mr. Pitt, the greateat son ot the greatest statesman, of the greatest nation that iver existed. It is complimentary to ue called tw gi-eafc a fool a;: ho. Now hero was my Ian- gnage in 1854 : "With regard to a Federal Union 1 will waate few words. There is an old saying, but a very true one, that Union is strength. 1 hat the N. A. Colonies ought to be united, there can be no rational doubt, but the Umon should be .perfect, unquaiified and absolute. Ihey should be so incoi-pornted that their interests should be identical. The Canadian, t^he New Brunswicker, the Nova - •otia.i, and the in- habitant ^f the other Colonies should be so united as lO feel, to know, imd luboassurert that they are forever henceforth to be one and the satne people. A Federal Union would produce the verv opposite effect: each member of the confederacy would possess a feehng ot selfishness, and jealousy, and rivalry, and di- versity of interest would tend to keen them further apart, iu feeling and disposition than theyai-e at present. It is not the firet time that the neighboring Confederation hiis felt the iAconvenience of this paradoxical kmd ol discordant Union, and in all probability the principal som-ce of final revolution and dis- ruption in the United States will be tound in the vain attempt to form a geneial Govern- ment out of BO many jarring elements." And again : — " Thus Sir, I have contended that Annexa- tion would be a curse ; that separation with a view to independency would be insanity: that a Federal Union is out of the question." Now I trust that the hon. member for In- verness and his friends, the other great Cana- dian advocates, wiU hereafter do me the tavor, when they refer to my speech, to repre- sent it as it was. While I was and am a tneud of Legislative Union I -was and am a bitter and determined eiiemy to Confederation m every shape. I can scarcely imagine how m^f 'vith brains under their hats, could have • invented such a constitution as the Quebec Scheme, for it may well be called a Scheme, betraying as it does a thorough and absolute ignoi-ance of e /cry principle of poUtical science IVom beginning to end. The constitution was composed of the great'st absurdities that were ever imagined,— a deformed monster ol no hnaginable shape— a creature that could hardly get into the world alive— that came in halt still bom, an absolute political abortion, and destined to be di-owncd like u supernuniury puppy before it»s eyes have opened to the hght *^ So^much, tlien, sir, for the mild, judicious, and moderate poUoy of the Goveiniment. W e must, however, not forget that there is a peo- ple as well as a government that must be looked to, md who can toll what an oppressed and enslaved people may not ha tempted to do.- I sincerely hope that the British Government wiU iQse no time in fiUlilling their solemn pledge to redress the wrongs inliicted upon this loyal people. If they do not immediately do so' the consequences may be iwial in tno ex- treme; and I should ill peiform my duty to iny Sovereign, if I did not emphatically warn the ministers of tlm danger ol delay. The people have not been trampled upon by any intention- al act of tyranny on the part of tlieir Queen, but they have been reduced to the condition ol abject slaves, by the craft and subtlety of poli- tical knaves in Canada. This they never wiU endure : and I may as well explain that to bo released from this Confederation is not a mat- ter of choice with the people of Nova Scoba, but a matter of imperative necessity. Tbey AviU not remain iu subjection to Canada, for the simple reason that they cannot do so, and I fear that if, before this House meets agam in six months from this time, steps have not been taken to give them relief and redress, they will be no longer able to submit, but will be com- pelled to attempt to redress themselves, and regain their valued constitution. All they re- quire is to bo restored to their constitution and their Sovereign. They will not have Canada and Canadian executive councillors to rule over them and wo shall hear no more ol " consti- tutional means" and "passive resistance." Thi.^ indeed, sir, is greatly to be dreaded, and 1 should not be faithtul to h«^r Majesty it I did not implore her ministei-s to prevent such i\ result by the umuediate fulfilment ol their pledge— that the wrongs of Nova Scotia should be redressed. , „ ,, The hon. and learned leader of the opposi- tion foresees ths issue of this poUtical cnsis, when he taimtingly telLs us that we could not prevent Canada from collecting the revenue ol this Province. "You have none but a Cana- dian tariff," he obsei-ved, "and, therefore, it vou refas . o pay under that tariff you would have no i jvonue at all." To this I would reply, that thLs Legislature, at its next session, could easily create a tariff, and order the Col- lector of Customs to jiay the revenue into the Treasury in this building. Let tlie hon. and learned member tell me how this could be pre- vented. , , ^ ^ ■ ,1 Mr. Blancharu.— Who would assfent to the ''ill ? " ,^,",11. Hon Atxt. Genekal.— There would be no difficulty about that ; the matter could be ar- ranged before the next meeting of Uie Legisla- ture We have been assured tliat no lorce will be used by Great Britain to compel the people of this Province into subjection to Canada— indeed we have been emphatically told that the word coercion has been erased from the vocabulary as between England and h.-r Colonii'S. England will not draw the 4 word upon the pe.ople of Nova Scotia, and U thev were not strong enough to reswt the Canadians, and were determined to free them- selves by force, they could obtain the aid ot oth'jr nations. (Tlie House ar.d galleries hav- ing loudly applauded— the Speaker cleared the galleries— and the House sliortly afterwards adjourned.) Friday, 4th Septemlier, 1868. MoruluB Messiou. The House met at half-past eleven o'clook. Mr NoR'f HUP presented a petitiou trom C. Hosterman and others in Halifax, in reference t-o the School Act. •»|., |j, 1 «.^i|r . Tjj-; i>v epocial leavOiintrouUceo abill to incoiporate" the Peterborough Gold Mining Company. . Mr. KID9TON, reported from the Committea to whom was K*i l,enaitui;e9mViet The House thei passed the ioUowv To incorporate T'o incorporate To incorporate To incorpoi-ate To amend aft Mines R.B-^"o; Tcfincoriiomt* iion of Baptist ^> To incorporat ^-oyyCoalCo. 'So incorporat Halifax. To amend aci Company. The Commit House adjourm Af A message a Council that tl bills : To incorpoi Company. To incorpoi rotteiT Com] To iucorpo Tlio I'ills moriuug sess bills to inco Manufactun Hon. M Hon. A' When intei was procee the people take in the felling t^- ^' the wrongi by Canada that alter been anno tration w< oompellec the rights tbey repr the slight pressing the natui tuid siuci to any n this Hoi declarec iiaviug ibe val people • not rec law, t selves. it lass Her M ties of tliatp ai-clw tliron No, I: or THE H009B 01? A89Ei.BI.*. an 'i^pect«d o'holding W^ ^^^^ ^^y come Whatever 'i^f^]/^^k'tt^Sev>.^^<> ^ ™''- iffi^^'^^fSSS^^tho people o^ ■xJva Scotia have subm^tU'^ ^ S.by that the people we wa ^^^ j^ Se their rights ^-^^om, Queen Vje^ ... niiiifiance to v,:u^i 11 ' Wo are living their respective and well ^^^ ^^^^^ to ,„ whom w« «*""! «'L1a*S °Sr •"■ To incorporate tno i>i" b^"' t.the'C:iledoiiiau Gold Mining To incorporate tlie^cut Conipatiy. j^, CvowuCoal, Brick and To incorpoi.ite lu^ rotteiT t-^o'^P"? ?';i,e Gardiner Gold Co. ToiucorpomtetheiTrau during the xr^ornuigsession ware 10. ,.^ ,vnd &tuu bills to incori'Oiatf/''' Manufacturing <-o s. . ., Hon. ,turinK'-o«- , ,o« Hon. A-oflLS'S^-''^^ When inten-upted in my u ^^^^^ ^vhicU wSrocceding to «Mi;J^;^,„\.M be driven to Speoplo of Nova bcou. mi.^1, government f T «^eiSd on the floors «» /^^^ft^^ud liber- hL Tafe^^y t^'^'^P^^^Vulni tS con.Utution, Sof "ilug^^ Jile^twi-te-l otl^ nion^ »Vot aucu was " ,,„Mu)-(>Uy leau w. . the Crown, on the ou«. , people- inese t'erewiththcprivilegesot the p I ^ Laam declare, und it « »" ^^^^^e government ot w not of menace, ^^'^^ \" to perceive tha '^*ova Scotia, who ^'^^^f^ ^''esoittothebeat S Confederation, ^'l^^''!! themselves tree. Scans hi their power to set tn ^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ?rhese are my se^time^^, an^^ y^^,,^ they are fn the face of the world and 1^^^^^^ ^ tt^ ;i,e sentiments ot the i^eop^^^^^^^ ^^Id of a -^£" I w»?butVfew ol^e^^^^^^^ see them, i w"* panada was Imgei) '" , nnon this point. ^'^'^'Jb;: thouglit of, d i am Se Confedei^ion was^ho^g^^^^^^ ,,ear and had a " ,^^^ ^ to say. " lions for several J'^ars. ^ Q^nada were an lXvaga.it govei—t^i Ca^.^^ , ^^ally spending one or W ^^^^^^ taxaionto th« revenue, f^^-^ ,;'^h could be «i^dured, oi the highest point wl en ^ ^ a pomt ,l\iic^,i would give tax-'lion, tor decreased beyond which the reve,iuemu^t,^. .^^ hv raising taxation, ^anau , ^^e^cy; be- r/3viaVrri.us:coi»^ Iver pei-ceived that \ "tlie idvantago ot S au^advantage oyer her-tn^ ^^.^thaymg chig more fcouomic^^Sue «"r of consequence, and which should be clearly coiiipreliended. We have had such a revolution in the constitution that one hardly knows where to look for constitutional law. We have had it Iicld out as a Idnd of threat tliat the Ciovernor-General may come down and dissolve this House. Suppose he did so V Does any one suppose that the peoj le would not immediately return the same House V Wo Avould coine back with increased strength, — but I wish it to be ascertained and undei'stood where this power of dissolution lies. The British North America Act says not a word about it. The pren^gative is not conferred on the Governor-General, and therefore tlie Gov- ernor-General has no more right to dissolve us than the Mayor or City Clerk of Halifax. Now who has t!ie power ? In England it is vested in the Queen as one of the prerogatives of the Crown, and the Lieutenant-Governor, i-epi-e- senting her, takes it as an element of power belonging to him. Therefore the power of dis- solution of the local legislature of Nova Scotia is vested exclasively in the Lieut. Governor, who can act onlj'' by the advice of his Execu- tive Council. (A laugh from Mr. Blanchard.) The lion, gentleman laughs without much rea- son. I dare say he thinks it would be a pleas- ant thing it Ave could be invaded by the Gover- nor-(aeneral and sent about our business. Mr. Blanchaud.— I laughed at the state- ment that the Governor could not act without the advice of his Council. Hon. Att'v. GENKitAr/. — The Lieutenarit- (jovernor is not so great as the Queen, and the (iueoii has not the power to dissolve her Par- liament without the advice of her Council, nor would she dare to do so. The hon. memlier cannot show any instance in English history, since 1688, in whicli«apy king or prince in England attempted to exeicise the prerogative of dissolution without the advice of responsible councillors. Mr. BLANCHAnu. — How was it in New Bnmswick? Hon. Attorn I extreme act of st tatives about tli others be perlbrr cillors responbiW beads. The litt no greater powe he wears her aui he does not po but is bound likt tivoof dissolutic •vdviceof hi3 res not do so ho Now the hon. done in New B Mr. Mannei-B Si of that Provint ciples of the^ some of our N( what he was tantly to the M ment that act ( so oilensive to tliey petitionee asking him to bly that passe( tunity to elect saw that he lis he probably hi understanding tion, he calk formed them prayer of the ■will not do so ijig that liis c extreme a sti as a special i send in thei Tjiight have t other council he considere was the way Bnmswick. with the (io' by tlu! advic was legally lution, is it i bers of this unanimous ■ back to th any other p — if we did tyranny, — i tile to conft it, tlieii we go back, an the House the pcoi)le, and niuney are sent lit blessing of mits-iou, ;u liom' so, ai people tlia Bill if 1 gentlemen have any their opin to gel- it. enquiry w give you ation, tlia to cnquii'' any we ^ OP THE HOUSE OF AiBSEMBLY. 270 New Hon Attorney GEXEHALcontmued;— Ihe extreme act of sending the people's repitjsen- Svw about Uieir business nuast above all S^be perlbrni(-cl under the advice o coun- SK r:,r.on..blc lor their advice ^v.th thcnr heads. The little Kms ol ^"^a bcotu luu, Srgreater power than the Queen ol i'-gl-^^J. he weather authority but not Her M.^^^^^^^^ he does not possess one-hull lier attiilmtos, EutXundlikehorto e.xerc^. the prcrog.^ ?h-o of dissolution under and by virtue oh "dvice of hi3 responsible Council, ..nd if he did flS do 80 ho lould be ^f P«"«''tJ".'f,"": Now the hon. member "«1" "'«.,f ;^.f j^^^' done in New Brunswick, and I will tell lum. Mr Xnnei-B Sutton, the Lieutenant Governor ofilTprovince. was educated in the prin- e nles of the r;onstitution,-he was not like some of our Nova Scotian politicians, he knew what he was about, lie had agreed rduc- Sy to the Maine Liquor Law, and the mo- ment that act came into operation it was loi n ^oflensive to the people of that ^^'^^ tiiev petitioned the (Governor almost to a man, SSm to send adrift the House ot Assem- bly that passed it, and to give them an oppoi^- tunityto^lecta new House., The Governor sawt^hathe had been guilty of an indiscretio , hTprobably had been told so in EngUind, ad uncCtandingthe princ^iples ot t^/-f ; tion, he called his conned togethei un in • Smedthcmof his desire to comply with the ; ™erof the petitions. "But," he said '' TTiU not do so unless by your advice.' imd- ug that Ids council would not adv-ise him to so extreme a stet., he wrote them a letter asking La special p'ersonul favor t-h'^t they should wnd in their resignations in order that ne St have the opportunity of sw-n.^ - -; other council. Thus he comphetr with what U3 considered the wishes of the people ilut was the way in which it was dcme m New Bnnswick The Executive Com.ci complied w Uht e Governor-s request and ^^^^^^ bv tlu! advice of the new Council tie House Sis e-^ y dissolved. Talking ot this d.sso- hiUon,! it imagined by any one tl.^, - -- ; bersofthisHonse, sitting hero l'/ ^^e . hos. mianimous voice of the people, are aha to go hnck to their constituents? II we had actcil ^v other pait tlmn that we are now pm-suing "fff we dicf not steadily resist oppressmn and tvmnnv —if wc did not declare our^eh e^ ho«- S ^on^eration and 'l-tevn.Uied to d.. Joy it tlien we shall have occasion to be 'lij-'i^ |,o go b'ck, and only then. But to go '^-J^ h'^"^. the House possesses the utmo.t «onf.dc ce oi t e peoi.k", would b.' an msult, a wust.M.l tune ;i!l;,;'s.;,u.«n,.vc inumca u,o acs,.-c» ..i >i.c enquiry -^f -.is tho^answ m ^ N*^-, ,^^. S^iii^^^^^ l^rwe^Jm^^'tlLuright^-we know more about you tlian you know about yourselves. When they hear these debates and see these resolutions luid the :Miimte of Council, and uiulerstand the course which the p<;oplo intend to take, the British Government may at last wish to make enquiry,— wo wUl aflord them an opportunity of doing so, and 1 tlimk 1 may i.ledge myself, the goveniment and all the members of this House t^xccptmg two, the leader and the wlieeler of the oppo-^ition, that if the Duke of Bucldngiuun will write out to Nova Scotia a despatch stating that Her Ma - iestv's Government are prepared to i-er««} "le British ^^orth America Act if the i)eopl« ot Xova Scotia, on being consulted at the hust- ings, shall so express their desire, the moment that dcbpat*;li reaches us this House shaU 1)« .lissoh-ed. Let us then he.ir no more thrtnits of a dissolution, and 1 m:iy say that those threats for which iioiie of us care, have ct?mo irom quartei'S ^vherlce they should not hHVO (•(juie This brings me to ri ier to another hubiect and one of no little moment— the t,iunion taken in lingland in reterenco to the c!.nstitutionality of the British North America \ct The delegates from this country bad no uarticular instructions to ask for a legal opin- ion— they took with them the opinions ot tho people of NovaS';oUa and of the fwyers ol Nova Scotia,— tli(>y took with theia the w.nctionof all tho legal talent in the Lmted i^fites— for that talent had been called into phiy on th.^ very subject of the right ot the iiiinerial Parhament to mteriere with the con- slitution of the colony-and they took with them the sympathies of every legal mind on the continent of Amenta. They did not absc- lutelv want an English opinuni but they ob- UdnJd one, and it is that opinion which I wish to discuss and with some bieVity to dissect 1 shall slvewli>">v strange and unreliable that ophiiou is. I believe the delegates were not aware, when that opftiion was taken, that Sir Round- tU Palmer had been the Attorney General who- framed the preamble to the Union Act ilus I assume on pretty good aut lonty, as 1 shall show When tho Quebec sehemo was b<)rn in Canada, it had this head dress on it: "lh» best interests, and present and luture prosper- itv of British North Amenca, wdl be pro- moted by a Fedeml Union, under the Crown of Great Britain ; provided it can be eftected on principles just to the several Provinces." It is very well known that every statute which affects any constitutional principle is, by the British Government, always handed to the Crown Offieei's for their approval or disappro- val ; and we have a right to assume that this most important statute was submitted to bir Uoundell Palmer. Wc have stated the true uriuciDle to be, that when a constitution has l)een conferred on a Colony that constitution is irrevoaible, except by the consent of the Colony itscU-; and thevefore the BntLsh Crown OlV.cers said that tliey could not lay the bill on the table of Pariiament unless they gavo it a different i)reamble from that which it had. In reaiuuii; num >.»■".• "•• — -- - - order to make it constitutional they gaye it that most unfortunalelv inendacuous preamb e which stated that Canada, New Brunswick imd Nova Scotia desired to bo tederally united. That of eoui-se was false in fact, as Nova bco- lift never had expressed such a desure. Rnd Sir I 280 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS t?«„T,lHll Pnlmer was the man who, I assume, Si tLuK preamble at U>e head of the hm The most important question which could have been put was not submitted. Ihat ^"the ^at question-" Has the Itnpeml Par- Simenfthe right tc tax tho people otT^ ova Sa while the Province is unrepresented in the Parliament." That question has received a practical solution on this continent, and in- cludes all the other points, because if that Parliament has not the power to itnpose taxes on us a fortiori, u has not the power to create Skt authon-ty in another legislature; itcan nTt confer on othei-s ^hat it does not possess Itself I regret that that question was not put because it would have driven the counsel mto a coiner from which they could not have ex- trioated themselves. I will ^'^i occnx>yUv^^ bvlssecting this opinion limb by hmb, but will take oft its head, and when I have decapi- ^t€d it I will he satisfied. Let the whole civilized'world hstcn to this opinion, given m the nineteenth century : ,.,„,. „t "Question-Has the Imperial Parliament the right 10 legislate away the constitution ol a Colony granted by Royal Charter and devel- oped inU)'' Responsible Government," a»wa« the case in rcgai-d to Nova Scotia ? "Answer-Asa matter of law, properly so railed Ave are of opinion that there is no limit ^£'aXrity of the Imperial I^-^lature over a Colony in the situstion ol ^ova bcotia^ Observe tliese words "as a matter of law prorerlv so called." Wwt mean they ? it would puzzle a Philadelphia awyer to give ^em any meaning. We are told here that the Snperial Parliament has unlimited power in dealing with the constitutional rights of the neople of Nova Scotia. Now this is a very Sge declaration. It is like that of Charles fhe iW when he commanded the ship money to be naid. He said that he did so by divine right-lthathehadboen divinely authoiized. Then, sir, the legislature of England "'"st l.« divinely authorised; there can be no law hig i- 27hL its own, the law of God cannot be high- er Is there any inteUigent creature on earth that is not bound by the great Legisat^o ♦he universe ? Can the Impennl Parliament volatelirt^nstatuus delivered amidst the thunders and HgWnings eailhquakes and dar^ ness of Mount Sinai? Can it abrogate those stenites which were given to i-egulate the con- dSo/mantowaixlshis Maker a"^ ^■'X\' his fellow man to the end ot time, and which So power can repeal? One of these command- mentsis " Thou shalt not steal," and another T" Thou Shalt do no murder," and so car;^ul lv«H the divine legislator in regard to the Sts of property that he made it ci-hmnal even to desire the property of another. 1 u^e commandments bind every human being; they Smnn individually and collectively when- ever he has the pnvilege of hearing them and thcv bind the Impenal Parhament as inuch as Inv Other power on earth. If that be the case that I'arliament had no right to v^o ate the law of ,5od -if that unlimited power belongs to th. ?mpSal Parliament, what is there to J^revent if rom passing a law like that of the cnu; , ILSnary, panicidal Herod, that all the ch.b Banguiimij, 1 ^ . ,,„„.„„„,,<, ot age and under"sWd ^ put ^o deatiiVT think such a iSrwoSd not b^ binding, but SirRoundell Pahner thinks it would, and that the people would be bound to obey it. I cannot compre- hend what he means by the Avords which I have quoted, unless he means the law w-hich was formerly promulgated before the len C om- rnandment8,-a kind of law of nature,— a law oi rapine, spoliation, arbitrary power— a law of savages, who regard only their own desires. We are told by voyagei-s that whenever they came among savages who have not had the benefit of Divine revelation, they fand no dw tinction between the rights of property— noth- ing can be left hi their way. Why ? Becaase they have the law, properly so called, of Sir Roundell Palmer to guide them. 1 his is the law which authorir^es the burglar to break into houses at night and steal property-that autho- rises the robber to seize the tiiivdler by the throat and blow his brains out. It was tins law. "properly so called," which authorized Ahab and Jezebel to put Naboth to death, and to take possession of the inhentancc of his ta- thei-s ; and is it not remarkable that, what they did was just what wiis done when the rights ot the people of Nova Scotia were murdered and the inheritance of their fathers t^ikeii trom them'> It was done by men of Dehal.— The men of Bellid were .«ent to bear talse wit- ness a gamst Noya Scotia but, sa>^ thohon membSr for Inverness, the men ot Belial did not deceive the British Government, because Mr. Bright in his eloquent addreas has shown that Lord Carnarvon actually knew that the people did not want Confederation, "there- fore," says he, triumphantly, " they did not deceive the British ministei-s," and he says this to whitewash the men of Behal. Who says that the British Government were deceived . We do not say so. Who says that the men ol Belial dcceiv<;d Jezebel or Ahab ? Canada has played the part of Jezebel and the Governnient of En-'hind has played the part of Ahab. The Government of England knew that the men ot Belial were going to swear t^lsely, but as tne neople were deceived who stoned Naboth to death so the men of Belial deceived the Queen and the people and pariiament of England, but they did not deceive the British government, who know thi. ve did not desire Confederation. That wa« the law of Sir Roundell Palmer, "properly so called;" but what did the Al- mighty Legislator say when he lound Ahab in Session? How did he deal ^vith this law properly so called ? " Hast thou killed and also ^Jken possession? Where dogs hcked the blood of Naboth shall dogs lick thy blood, even thine, and dogs shall eat Jezebel by the wall o Jereel" That was the sentence pronounced on the law of Sir Roundell Palmer, and though I am not a prophet like Elijah, yet I do predict that if England and Canada, and their govern- ments, pei^Lst in executhig this law, " propi^r y so called," on the people of ^ova Scotia lu Majesty's power in Ameruui will, like Jezalxi and Ahab, inevitably go to the dop. Now let us try out this laniouslaw, " proper- ly so called," to its legitimate conclusions 1 he Iiniierial Parliament have told the people ot No- va' Scotia: " we have thought proper to take from yon a very important j.artot your old and valued institutions, but we have g,vcn you a very refined Constitutioi; in Canada; we hav( naved 5ouf Honsc of Assembly tbr 1.;onble ot taxing you, and have put that trouble on the Canadians!" By C gone further and benches? Nay, th of our House ot i-obbedusofthatr thei-a; they might h ant-Governor as i might have transic ham into aTibent greedy, rapacious rob, murder and down-trodden Pro be done under th Having answered in the speech of tl I will not occup whole farrago of The hort. gentle thing— from Mos Tnolasses — and at The history of i been recorded c other secred hist provemont of in rions aas — she -w „orJ. We have asses since her t characteristics knew whtn to s wafl pith)-,logi short, and I do benefit of i udie ing asses of the selves on the e Balaam. The Ho Several Hon. M corpoi-te t Hon. M ehapi 26 1 ■1:' OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 281 Canadian,-" ^y tha^- -^JS-*S r^r a SSr--n.« St have sent a ham into a l^"^""?: " .. „ piiate to tax and greedy, tnpacious PonUus P^f «• j^ ^f ,„;« rob, murder and c™"'^' ,;"^ /^ ^,,^1 might down-trodden Pmvince. .,1b^*p^^^j;;„ ,,Ue^,. be done under this law P^op / teworthy HaTing answered all that I cmmn^^ in the speech of the ho^-^'^^^^^^Jf^g over the I mQ not «««"Py,^'?^l'" ^berl BPeeehcs. whole farrago of the hou. memM^« i The ho«. gentleman S^^ ".'^^„'S gugar and thmg-from M^^f^^e ,,meS ««^- molasHes-and at last t'^^^"^^. .i^al has The history ot ^^"^^.f -SSIe, hke all been ^^^^^^ded on ^^^^^^^^^^ and im- other 98.cred h stoiy, tm tn ^^^^ ^ ^^^ ^^^ provemont of lutuie asses. , j <,„ re- gions a*-ehe was the. ,f**'^^f7^"f,y speaking cord. We have l^^'^^^l^foJ possessed two ^es since her time but this o>^^ l^f^" f,^^ «be tnewwhtn tostop,iui" ; j. j^. ^yg^ "" """{'I'SSMtwoSito "uch to .1.0 Balaam. Mr.Blanchardandothe^^. ^^^^^ .,^,^ Aft«r ^hich the ±iou«^ fe foUoXHng: Sydney. at,.oPt Ourbines, Hulilux. To incorpoi-ate the vu-voim "^ToCJorporatethe Sabbath School Associa- '^'^?oincon.omtcthe Poterborough GoldMiu- '"^iSlSSa^'^esBment rolls in various coun- %e committee^ -<^-;S 'S^ClSporate .b^^^SSSl^^CompaiiyofWind- "^ Also presented the Report of the Comnuttee o/A^^lculture ^aid - th^ tahl.^^^^^^^^ ^^ , The House then '"y^"^"^" ,;' . .hat it was «''^°*' l^pri^rSSifuis before necessary to push lorw" the various couunitt ces. 7th. MONDAY, Sept The House met at 3 o'clock. Several bills were ^^'^.'^.'V* "; 1 "'^11 to in- Hon. Mr. CochRAK mtroduce^Ui b> ^^^ .orpoite the So«ety of St. V m,^cn^.^^ ^^ ^^^^^^ J^'^5^5:i:^yi-andMiueral. 36 'j«„ attv Gb». introduced a dUI to «lt«r thS^n'^PtSrCourt of Se«do^.ixiWeat«n ''''nTvZy^l^C.UA on th* table a potion iZL Departmental -d Re^menm O^ eers of H. M. Service, asking to '^ J*"**^ from School and Municipal taxes. Laid on '^'Iteo^Uie petition of David Cowan, ftking remunin for a collection of specimens or« and miuends lost in connection with the to^ rt onal ExhibitioT>. Sent to the Committee Sines andMineials.atthe request ot tiie ^"KbuSg bills were read a second time Three bills to amend chap 45 R. S. ol Coun- ^^^o'SeTd chap. 25 R. S of Mines and Min- '^'?o amend act regubting the Poors' Aslum, ^^■'Kmend act incorporatiing Windsor mi ''"^o^'SpomS^tiie Mon^al Exploraticm ^^MfBLNCHAHD, aaChairman of Committee on Private and Local bills, i-epoi/^d up the fol- lowing without amendment: l-o incorporate the Sydney Industrial and ""Totc^orp'oS'the Union Temple of Good Templars', at WiUiamsdale. Toincorporato the Casco Bay Copper Com- ^'^T^'incon^orate the Glace Bay Gold Com- ^'To incorporate the Ma'yflower Gold Copi- P'S c3° Action of Street Commis- siinnei'S to North Sydney. Tnrespect to Harbor Masters of Sydney. Mr.TANCHAKD also asked leave to report una bill to legahze electoral rolls of electors in Yarmouth. It would be remembered, he J^dt^t the bUl had been inti-oduced by one of the members for Yarmouth, because thew rolLhadnot been xuade i^^ ':C°0'^^_ ^^. law He (Mr. B.) had asceitamed to h-, ..^^ Se, that Ae County of Inverness was m^e same condition. If an election was to be run Sre ?he 24th June next, .the electond^Us would be found not only .i^^Pertect jn tho^ mentioned, but probably in the majority ot "her counties in the pronnce. \^^J^l the statements made on a previous day bv the Attorney General, it was very advisable to haThe li^atter ' immediately attenaed^^ Under the circumstances the bill had b^n amended so as to include Inverness, aiid ojex Tntlemen would get their counties added ir Con niittee, if it should be nccessaiy. "^ The foregoing bill having been^chspoaed «.- Mr. Blanchard went on to fyf^J^ wished to make a few observations to the House ;To«sequence of the peculiar ™^^«*^^^ in which he was placed, and m order to Keep witTiStle rules he would condude with » Motion He happened now to be m the posi- tion of being forced tocsay good-bye to the lejs- rture on 'account of some irreguknnes m ..nnnection with the making up of the lists in Inverner A committee would soon repprt. iTmiderstood, that his election was nuU and ., _,.4 ♦upv"*""'-'* bo was oblieea to mRK« /• ■ 'ill m m %i% DEBATES AND P:»0CEBD1NGS WHue romaik* at that junotme, or else he would have PQ opportunity of doing so. H« would net say n single woid in respect to that coin- mittj*— ha beUeved that every gentleman, bound as he waa'by a solemn oath, would dis- charge his duty to the best of his ability, Jiever- thelaw he (M. B.) would not trust himseK to speak of that Committee as he it'lt. He would not i;efer to the extraordinary position in whicli he was placed further than t« say that not only a. Committee, but the House itself would en- dorse the high estimation in which he ought to b»Jieldin this country by asserting that ho (Should be ejected from the Icgislaturo on ac- count pf the little abiUty that he had displayed m eCinnection with public affairs. Of one thing, however, he was perfectly confident, and that wws that, outside of the city of Halifax, no election was conducted during last September witjbi less uTCgularity than that held by Inver- ness. , . In view of the fact that an election nnwt BOon be held in this country, and of the intima- tion given by the Attorney GeneriJ, lie hoped the House would earnestly consider the pro- priety, of midiing the electoral rolls perfectly legal. And there were one or two other sub- jects to which he wished to refer, and one of these was the delay in bringing down the Es- timates. Some days ago ho had asked the Hon. Provincial Secretary for tlie Estimates, and was told that they were in the hands of the printer. Now, on numerous other occasions, siftce the commencement of the Session, he had asked for other important public pupei-s, and the invariable excuse lor the delay in pre- senting them had been that they were not re- ceived from the printer. It was in this way that the public business had been rettu-ded, and he thought i^ was but right to call attention thus publicly to the matter. In the past, it had been always cuptomary not only to lay all the papers on the table at as early a date us possible, but to bring up the accounts even for the last quarter previous to the time they might be asked for. Now looking over the ac- fountshe found that from the first of January 1 the f.-^t of July, Mr. Annand, of the " Chron- icle" had received the sum of f2096; to say nothing of the amounts paid to the Queen's Printer, and others, among whom the govern- ment had parceUed out the pullic pnuting. Another matter to which he wished to rcler was the money granted last -Nvijiter for the re- lief of distressed fishermen. (A message was here received from the Le- gislative Council statmg that they had agreed to the following bills : ■ To iDCoqionite the Montreal and (ilasgow Coal Company. ^ ,-, ^. 'to incoqiorate the Stadacona Gold Coin- pauy. To incorporate the Mcintosh Gold Com- pony. To incorporate the Mulgrave Gold Com- To incoi-pomtc the Atlantic Gold Com- ply- . 1 11- ^ To amend the Act inpoiporating the 1 ictoii Company*) Mr Blaitchaju) then went on to say that he iv^ ir,fiuenc€cl in tbo rfitn.arka he wns now maMpg by an earnest desire to subserve the puKlii iat«re6t9, A very Iwss ««» of mwey. ne had been about to observe, had b««D con- tributed not only by the local government and by the people of the adjoining Provincee, fbi the relief c the distressed fishermen in this Province, «..d it was very desirable that a full and e.\act statement of the expenditure in each county should be furnished belbre the close of the seseion, and undergo the strict supervision of the committee of Public Ac- counts. In conclusion, he wislfcd to i-elor to what had occurred on a previous evening at the close of the debate on the repeal resolu- tions. He regretted exceedingly that anything should have occurred to disturb the order of the Legislature, pai-ticularly when strangel^^ were present. As far ns the question in dis- pute was conccrued he atiU believed he was correct in the opinions he had ^iven, but il' anything had fallen from his lips in the heat of debate, calculnted to mar ♦he order of the House, or to offend the Speal ?r, he would a« once apologiae with the utmost frankness. He thought it duo to hunscll" to add tliat it had dwaysbuen his desire to support the chair, and promote the business of the House in every way in his power. He would now leave tho House, however, with the conviotion that ^ he would not long be absent from its benches, i but would be triumphantly returned by the faithful constituency that had so long sustained him, and m whom ho trusted tlie goverament would immediately aUow liim to appeal once more for support. When he returned to his constituents, it would bo with the certainty that none of them would charge him >yith fail ing to attend to their local interests, or to act up to thoHO great principles which it vrOB his in-ide to suslain always to the best of his abil- ity. If ho had been able, ho would have liked to answer the speech of the Attorney General, but as no opportunity was afforded hiin, he would only ask that lion, gentleman, as well iis his supporters, to pause and consider the (lan,^'»rous direction in which they were drift- ing t if they continued in their present rash coui-sp, they might soon find tiiemselves in a position from which they would find it impos- sible to recede. It had been his intention to have concluded with a motion requesting the chairman of the committee, after the presenta- tion of his report, to lay on the table the min utes and evidence connected with the investi- gation into the merits of the eleotiion. As he hoped and believed, however, that the oommit- tee would do so without a motion, ho would conclude with asking *he Provincial Secretary to lav on the table all papers connected with the distribution of the fund for the rehet ot distressed fishermen in this Province, Hon. Puo. Sec. mad that he had not been aware that it was tho intention of the comrnit- ice to' report the election of the hon. mejnber " null and void." He regretted that shch was the case, as he would bear- testimony to the desire of the hon. member to further the butt- ness of the House. The Estimates had not been more delaved this year, he must say, however, than had been the case in former sessions. Tliey had been ready on Monday, but delayed, as the hon. member was dosirous of concluding his speech on the repeal resolu- tions. In the meantime, they had been hand- ed to the printer, and wouid have oecn rca«j ths^t dtiy, only bd bR«i be«n obJj8<5cl to wtuw them, as they wer •»ent to the Hou Iffinter, referred t very insignificant travagaut amonn government. As for, he would lay liest p9ssible oppt ■ Tlie subject the Mr. KiEK i-ep initteeto whom ijavour of the ei Af^inih. Mr. BtANCHAI inent would do b eating wth mana tutlous in other ] their reports on t Hon. Mr. Ko <.'ommittec to in Blanchard's elec ness, reported sai Mr. Blanch \i tired from the Hi Mr. Roberts hon. gentleman on the table. The Hoaseth ! Bills and passed i To appoint Co ages for railway To incorporate pany. To incorporaU and Provident C To incorporati Templars. To incorporate To incbrporat Co. of Windsor. The Committ< Mr. KiDSTON go into Comm state of the Pn British North drawalofthert' Mr. Ftrdt « sidered some i respecting the 1 of the session. Mr. PCKDT ■« Education in pli The House th The House m in session with o'clock, when tl The I louse n session with clo the galleries w A message w Council. s»^atin£ lowing bills : — To amend CI and. inspection To incorpora ney. To legalize t] tricts and conn At OP THE HOUaE OF ASSEMBLY. 283 been con- nment and ueii in this i that a full siiditure in bel'ore the the strict Public Ac- ta refer to ; evening at 5oal resolu- Ht unjrthiofi ho order ol' a stmngei^^ stion in dis- ved he was von, but U' I the heat of irder of the he would ai , frankness. 1 tluit it had •t the chair, 10 House in d now leave iviction that its benches, ned by the ng sustained goveiTment appeal once irned to his the certainty im with fail sts, or to act 1 it -WBS his it of his abil- ,d have liked iiey General, led him, he •man, as well consider the »y were drift- fvroseht rash mselves in a find it impos- intention to jquesting the the preseinta able the min the investi- stiion. As he t the oommit- n, ho would ial Secretaiy mnected with the relief of nee. md not been f the comrnit- hon. member that shch was imony t<> the ther thebusi- ates had not he must say, jase in former yr on Monday, r was desirGUS repeal resolu- ,d been hand- re been rcauj" jgp,cl to letura them as they were too full of errors to pre- ■lent to the House. The sum.s paid to the iwinter, referred to by the hon. member, were very insignificant in comparison with the ex- travagant amonnttt gnintcd by the previouH government. As respects the papci-s askt-d for, he would lay them on the table at the ear- liest possible opportunity. Tlie subject then dropped. Mr. KluK reported from tl>e Special Coin- initte« to whom the subject was refeirod in lavour of the establishment of an Inebrmto AjJvlnria. . . „ Mr. BtANCHARD thought that the Govern- ment would do best by immediately comnriuni- eating wth mnnngew of similar valuable msti- lutious in other parts of Amenca, and obtam their reports on the subject. Hon. Mr. Robkrtson, Chairmnn d the Committee to inquire into the legality ol Mr. Blanchard's election for the County vt I iver- nees, reported said election null and voiv. Mr. Br.ANCHAED thereupon bowed, and re- tired from the House. Mr. Robertson stated that the paper ttie hon. gentleman had asked lor, would be laid on the table. The Hoasethen went into Comnuttee on Bills and passed the follow ing : To appoint Commissioners to appratse dam- ages for railway purposes in Annapolis. To incorporate the Casco Bay Copper Com- To'incorporatc the Sydney Mines Industrial and Provident Co. ^ ^. i To incorporate the Union Temple ot C-rooU Templars. To incorporate the Glace Bay Gold Co. To incorporate the Mayflower Gold Mmmg Co. of Windsor. « The Committee then i.-ose and reported. Mr. KiDSTON laid a motion on the table to go into Committee on a future day on the state of the Pro--''^- a c eqvence of the British North .' nt, and the with- drawal rf the rt' rova Scotia. Mr.FrRDY t to have con- sidered some 1 ^1 introduced respecting the be of the session. Mr. PcHDT was -4 . Education in place of ixx.. The House then adjourn sa. ;f>viou3 part mmitt'.'P on ■d. Tuesday, 8th Sept. The House met at 3 o'clock, and remained iu session with closed doors until half-past five o'clock, when they rdjourned. Wernesdat, 9tii Sept. The Tfoase met- at? o'clock, and remained in session with closed doors until five o'clock, when the galleries were opened. A message was received irom the Legislative Council, stating that they had agreed to the fol- lowing biUa ; — ... ..^ To amend Chap.'— R. S. respecting regulation and inspection of lumber, &c. ., , c i To incorporate the St. Andrew's Lodge, bya- nev. ■ 3- To legalize the assessment roUs in ceilain Ois- tricts and counties. To incorporate the French Mission of *• Western Baptist Association of Nova 8ooii». ' To incorporate the Sabbath School A«^ta- tion, Halifax. The House then wont in*© Committco on t)ilLs, and took up the bill to incorporate the New Glasgow and ( 'h]H) Brf^ton Coal Company. Hon Attt. Gbnl. called attention to ftciron- lar setting forth the claims of the IntRrnaflonaF Coal Company, which had been gi-ant«i r char- ter until 1870. !<■ that Company had any e** tensive rights, of. (iiirsc i they shotild be ^cotwHlelv ed. It might be, however, that two rallwajm might be built. Dr. McBRAr contended tliat the Intemataon- !\1 Conioany had no e.vcliLsive right whateVe*. and had received all the consideration to w4i«ch it was entitled. . Mr. PuRDY argued in favour ot the claiihs ol the International (lompany, which would bnlld their road at the earliest possible moment. Ttw HoiLso had no guanin tec that the new compahy would not buy up coal areas, and»promote tt»*ir interests without reference to others. He "^jpea the liCgislaturc would do nothing to interfere with a charter solemnly given to « bomrwmjf, as such a course would prevent the introwo tion of capital into the country. _. Mr. Landers did not see why there sh ing a line in close vicinity to the other. T^** was not traffic sufficient for two Compftniea. It was unlair to grant a charter that would in- terfere with vested rights. He had lop^ closely into the matter iu Committee, and had not, therefore, formed his opinion hastily. - Dr. Murray said, that the hon. meftiWer had failed to make out hi" case. If th* Internation- al Company were competent to build the road, why had they not done so. They had actaaUy appUed to tlifc Dominion Governmeirt for a guarantee in order to buili the road. A simflar petition had been presented to the Local Go- vernment. The charter had been reneYcd several times already, and yet the road Md never be^.a built. The International, if th^ built tr ., road, would only accommodate theft- own coal mines. , Hon. Atty. Gen. asked if the Intemftbon^ Coal Company were now operathsg their '^Mr." White said they were now worto^ very valuable mines, and ought to have th«r ri PROC'EEDINCa ev«r, on account of tho want of h harl>or. Hd wpuJd like to »ee many milways in Cape Breton, but ho was un^^illing to interfere with vested nght». Ho know, at the same tinio, it wou'd bo a great bcnclit to tlie Proviuoo if the guarantee could be given. Mr. D. McDonald said if the hop . ip-nber doubted the propriety of the bill he nu- hini- jelf inU-oduoed he »hould hesitate to press it. Th« moment the Keciprocity Treaty was re- DAved, the Irtarcoloniul Company would go on •with the road. Chartered rights shoult" ^t be hastily interfered with, and nothinji!; whatever was known about this rival com- pftny. There was not work enough for two railways. , . „ , Mr. White said, if all the coal oi all the mines was shipped at Sydney, there would be a necessity for two railways. He had not yet seen, however, that the interests of tlie two companies would conflict. Hon. Atty. Gen. said, if any new company wer« chartered, a clause should l)e introduced protecting the rights of tlib International Company. Mr. KID8TON said that the International Company hac' been granted certain privileges, but he did not see that they would be inter- Sr«d with by the new company. Otherwise « Hjuse would bo supporting the old prin- ciple of monopoly. Some eight collieries would be interested in the construction of the new line. Hon. Mr. Troop said that the International Company had done already a great deal of worJc on tlie faith of a charter grunted by the Legislature. Now the charter had been ex- tended to 1870, and gave the company very large rights, which should be carel-iUy consi- dered by the House. They had also made Murveys for railway, and before any new com- pany couid come in, the applicants should make out a case to shew the House the pro- priety of granting a new charter. In view of the importance of the coal interests great care •hould be tak«}n in all legislation on the sub- ject. He was not prtpared to say he would oppose the new bill, but he had advised the House to get all the information possible in leierenoo to it, so that no injustice might be done to any one. Hon. Mr. Fltnn said, tliat tlie question with him was, how far the new charter would interfere with the rights of the former com- pany. The fact that the time of the Inter- national Company had been extended could not be denied, and with the uncontradicted as- sertions of that company before him he could not feel justified in voting for the bill. Mr. Balcam said he was well acquainted with the wants of the locality in question. Sydney was a long time frozen up, and il" a railroad could be built to Louisbuvg, vesseln could go and obtain their cargoes at all seasons of the yeai-. Such a railroad would be vastly beiieficitd. Hon. Mr. Troop moved that a clause be ada- ed to the bill reservijj^ the vested rights of the International Company. Mr. PosijT said that this amendment did not meet his views entirely. If the charters ■c,'ers sdven fov the ona line, no one could in- st adollar in either Company. The ability the International Company to go on with the road could not be disputoil, their rcaiion* lor not having done .w: the high price of^o'd, the duty on coal, and tlic Amorican war, liad boon given. The Coin|>uny htul a perfect right to go to any government and ii>k a quantity of 3t^k, and until it could be shewn that they wore unable to cirry on :'to work, tiie charter should not be gi .en. Mr. KiDSTON said that if the Coal trade wa» as prosperous as it gav pioraise of being, three or four railways would b« neceasarv. The new Company did not inl«nii to wait for thn price of coal to ^o up, and the price of gold to oonio down, but were prepared to en gajro in the enterprise at onoe. The bill pa.'ised with tht) i dded cU'uso moved by the lion. Mr. Trooi>. I'ho CoiKinittoe adjourned. Mr. DEsnuiSAY, as Chairman o('Committen on rrivate and Local bills, reported favombly of a number of bills, and unfavorably of the bill relating to Street expenditure in the City of Ilalilkx. The liitter bill was (leierrec' for three months. The House adjourned to the folio ng day at 3 o'clock, Thursday, Sept. 10. IttorHliiB Session. The Hoi se met at 11 o'clock. Several UUa passed a second vending. I he amei dments proposed by the Legisla- tive Council to the bill to incorpoi-ato the Ca- ledonian Coal Mining Company wereagi-eed to. The Hoa^e then went into commiteo on bills and passed the bill to amend the act to incor- porate the Trustees ot Zion Church, Haliiax,— the bill vo incorporate the Society of St. Vin- cent of Paul, Halifax,— the bill to incorporate the Montreal E.Tploration Co., — the bill to provide foi the paymeiu of certain liabilities in the Co. of Guysboro, — the bill to provitle for the open- ing of a road in the County of Pictou, — the bill to incorpoi-ate the International Iron and Steel Company, — the bill to amend the act relating to the management of Se wers and Dykelands,-^ the bill to extend to County of Cape Breton the act relating to Streets,— and the bill tO in- corporate the Long Point Coal Mining Com- pnnv. . . TIk^ bill to compel the Windsor and Anna- polis Kailwav to pay Dyke Rates was taken up. Hon. Speakku said tha. such a bill should be lurchilly considered. Hon. Mr. TuoiP did not see why the rail- way should be mude liable when no charge was made on other highways. Dr. Bkown saul that the Company took the lands on which these rates were chargeable, and they should bear the burthens of the other propeitiey. Hon. Atty. Gen. said that the question was ■whether the Legislature would impose taxatio4i on private companies holding lands for ptiblic purposes. He was opposed to such a principle. Ho obs6;-\'cd that it had been stated that the company were building their culverts of woo'i Nova Scot little atteiv ny, and t: many of tl dingly the to awaker leading n sity that ti a very r preface I those wli< their cffo following lie conve, The re mously. Hon. J Esq., is ' he is an of ComE annals accessio liberty t ofNovc have gr folio wii convey Mr. ] tions w !U OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 286 'uao moved br rpTo^^ '-!»« tho^ vigUt u, levy ,,au^ on ^'f-^^^l^TtLi he could ima«m« jre.iUemcn tro^ "'". jr^""-^^ tiion having t)»o avkes were «^/""°^* J°\,opn. tor; there sva. uo unnlo^ ^^-^t^^^' \^*\X- that the tax public lii«bway. " ""/^ "";„;„£ pi-oi-rietoi-s. linble under the pi i>s<'"tl'i''- The bill passed. ^ ineorpo- cxnltuTC, reported a bill to ^^ j.^,.^, ixigtothc P"j;c^'"'^ *".,'" the Committee on lion. Mr. Tuoor, ^^""', ^f^vorablv of the Uw Amendment., ';^-^«JffSrt^asses, bilHn reference to peuy tnd Hssfiult-). „,i tn 'i o'clock. ITie House adjourned to ^ oc.oc •"Sf S'rV o"Ki, thu. if .he ho,, mo„, ;; ,i„,;,;X^« «^ «"* '•°""' '"" " fe» »'■ «1? 'i°S"?,. rS'SJg" tl» object rrs4«;Tp'£"pS.uoS5 ;r zealous patrioti3n,to.m»P-.K^.^-„, «'!»i.^,,f riAvintntr from thei Hker, _ have make k Afternoon SeMlon. 'Che House resumed at 3 o'clock, icall of the House was had. VOTE OF THANKS. Wn Atty. Gen. said-.^l nse, ». Hon. Aii^- agreeable duty to perioral a very hm'- • ,j _ during this «««^»oi?;/"^^\SS^^° censure and great many remaps in ft «pi"t. ^^^^^^j^,, •, risapprob..tion Ihe objcc^ o ^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ofanopposif^teiidemy. ^^ j,^,,e went to England, they """'^^f i„differen«B on been expected, a gre_at J^^^\J",he wrongs of the pet. ..i '^^S'^to?o^::nglaud had paid Nova Scotia. 1 If^^f „X "'^f this distant colo ■ little attention to the aflwrsv.2 in ^^ ^ nv and the Contetleration ^ af ^^'P' ^^cor- S'^; of them U, be a ^t^J - 'i;^Xgely pre- dingly the mind ot ^ngia ^^^^ ^eceasary possessed agaiast us auau ^^^^^^ ^^, ^^^^ Awaken the sjmpatUsin ^ ^,^^ j^.p^, to leading ^^^ f *Vl succeeded in doing so to ^y that tlie de "g/^; '"^4"t^'„\ Without further a W/eniarkable cxte^. ^^^^^j. ^^^^^^ preface I proceed to mo> t i^uous m ll^ose who rendered themselvw « l^^^^.^ ^j^^ their efforts on om ^^V^f {^^^^t^ of this K^^^^ following resolutjou tht^h^^^^^^^^ strathe.len. l«5 conveyed to ^« ""I'^JjTput pasvo months in the office, and that some felt somewhat dubi- ous about the flgn-es, a compaiison Avith the estimates will show that I was within a com- pbxatively small sum of being correct. I con- tended then that had we made the same allow- ances as heretofoi-e for the road and bridge ser- vice, we would have been ,f 142,000 in debt. The Estimates which I now lay on the table, Bliew'thatwe have granted for that sei-vice, «100,000, being $140,000 less than the grant for 1867, and after paying out the amount ap- propriated for the Provincial Hospitnl, we shall be ^13,000 in arreai-s, so that my previous statement will be found to be coiTcct. I will briefly refer to some of the statements made at that time, and 1 would go more fully into that part of the subject, if the hon. member were predent. I took the year 1866, and baaed my calculations on the importations for that year, under the Nova Scotia tariff" ; I then applied the Dominion tariff to the importations of the same year, and the result showed that had we been Confederated at that time, we would have paid into the Dominion treasury $4'27,- 539.98 more than under our own tariff". In my calculations of the other day, based upon the accounts furnished me by the Domuiion auditor, and which I take for granted are cor- rect, I think I made it quite clear to tliis House, that thei-e is p. balance the present year in favor of Nova Scotia of !t),'41G,471.11, less the f30,000 which might be chargeable to us as interest on arrears, a difference of only about SI 1,000. ., ^ The hon. member for Inverness said the other day ..latvui my calculations J had omit- ted the interest on the debt of eight millions, but the House will remember that I gave the reason why 1 omitted it. Had the hon. mem- ber been "desirous of placing a reliable state- ment before the people of this country, he should have taken tliis up from a diftei-ent standpoint, and given Nova Scotia credit for (Uity on the importHtions from Canada and New Bi-unswick, but the hon. member lias not done so. As the hon. member for ICing's remarked, the country has been overrun with Canadian agents, and no doubt a very largo, quantity of goods have been imported from Canada. The duty on those goods having been j-aid there, they of courae come into Nova Scotia free. We are notobhged to im- port iiem from a foreign country, but we are still obliged to pay the duty, because it is charged in the f;«t cost. Again, the whole western part of this Province is supplied with dry <^ods fix>m 8* John, the purchasera for- mer^ paying the duty into our Treasury, and on getting a certifleate for drawback, they were re-paid the New Bi-unswick duty. At pitjsent the duty on tlioso goods is paid in New Bruaswick, and that Province geta the credit of it, while in reality the amount shoidd go to the credit of Nova Scotia, so that if we are to take into account the interest on the debt, we must, if we throw aside the railrbads, tuko the amount of importations from all tho different counties, and give Nova Scotia cre- dit for the duty, and we will find the amount thus ascertained, will very nearly, if not quite, reach the sum of $600,000 taken out of the- pockets of the people of Nova Scotia, a« stated by me last winter. In the Estimates which I now submit, we appropriate as follows; — EXPENDITURE. Civil List or Sahuies $21,800.0Q Crown Land Department 20,000.00 Criminal Prosecutions 3,000.00 Coroners' Inquests 2,000.00 Education 165,000.00 Immigration ^ 800.00 Legislative Exijenses 34,000.00 Miscellaneous 16,520.00 Deafand Dumb Institution 2,000.00 Agricidture 6,000.00 Dept. of Works 50,000.00 " " Mines 15,000.00 Navigation Secmities 10,000.00 Pooi-s' Asylum 20,000.00 Public Printing 8,000.00 Poors' Asylum, (new) on account of construction 30,000.00 ReUef 3,000.00 Road Compensation 500.00 Roads and Bridges 100,000.00 Transient Poor ^ 3,400.00 Steamboats, Packets, Ferries, &c. . 8,860.00 Provincial exhibition 3,000.00 New Provincial Building 41,000.00 $563,880.0© A.S8KT8. Balance on hand 1st January, 1868. Bv Statement of Treasurer $39,700.63 Education $ 22,835.77 Immigration 1,000.00 Arreara 119,599.28 143,435.06 Dept of Mines 90,000.00 Hospital for Insan<5 20,000.00 CrownLands 22,000.00 J'.^l. Subsidy to 32stDec. 1868 235,963.18 Balance.... 12.791.2* $563,880.00 RJIt will be seen that the large sum of $165,000 has to be provided 'his year for Education. I have prepared for information of the members an estimate for 1869, and it will be seen from this that it will be necessary before next ses sion to a.scertain whether the Educational grant cannot be reduced. That service will in future take too much money, and while it is impoitnnt that every child should receive a free education I am sure that we can hereafter oidy make provision for a common school, imd I hold that this Ls all that we have any right to take money from the treasury for. By Ipp ping oft' the gmuts heretofore made to the col- leges and superior schools we will effect a te^; ^ duction. i'ho education grant is the last iLat i should like to see reduced, but we nmst twgin wth those of a larger amount.— The iteiU ol expenditure estimated this year for the Provin- OF THE SOUSE OF ASSEMBLY M«r eial ExWbition wiU not bo m^u^^ -^^l^l P'^^Hd^^^iSrh'owevlr'^^c whether r;^u'cS™au be made. Our asset, stand as t'oUo-ws : Bftlance in hands ofTrea-^^^^.^ surer j" * ' Education (being advan- ces repaid) • • • • ; • - ' Immigration, (am t puia ^ ^^^^^ by mistake) il9',599,28 Arrears i___l_«il83,l3o 58 The revenue we estimate as follows :— .$90,000.00 Department of Mines. . -^ ' ^ qq Crbwn Lands. o'^c q';^ t8 Balance of Subsidy •_r__!-_-#367,.'33 18 ,p„,„, f55l^08876 Total ••■••,;• •/. ■•_ ,.,. ^v,„ House a large poition oT ^J« «^^''^°^ K the Pro- paid for the car^go.of *^ ^^ postage to the vince is «>,VnKe LH Sfraw the Dominion, I *xt vlar and endeavor to get fcrriace Brant next y^'"> " „„^ a retu -P of what we m ^^^ y^"^^" The assets I estimate as follows -.- ^^^^^^^^ Subsidy 60^000 Bonus 90,000 Mines " " ' ' 2«,000 Hospital for Insane ■ • • • 22,000 Crown Lands $456,000 L-ow, taking the t«te"sh^'St%Su ot $207,»ow- , *'"r>,„ther we arc now in a bet- House to J,'idg*^,?'.^„ tH„n b.'foroConfedera- tcrlinai.cialcondition than b<-X usual sup- tion. I would now move ^^^ thej« ^^^^^^ xMonday next. ^„^, •„.,. whether the Gov- Mr. MOKKISON e"V"'^f "j^ ^^"^\tg„tior. to the crnnient had ^'f ,Y^°^i^^^U^,?the General clause of the Act of Uj'^™;^^^^ ^oads. The It will be in the of the it was said that the Ci own L ^ould yield a revenue ot */0,uuu. ^^^^^^ we received from ^^^-^ !^,„^'loihs ' we find that Government. Hon. Pro. Si5C wereceiveu 11 ui.. -"••-- months we nnci after the expenence of e>gl«^^^,g $22,000 <^e can only calculate on leceivia^g J ,^^^^ while the ?^P«°?,f, °*i*8 oS) «r «6,006 above ■Salaries, will be $^_».""" ;, ,Tv some that Seeti"' If wL^BuPposed by some theieceipis.^^ in a position to increase the cuttiiijj for the roads and shall be !|13,000 m incrensed by lur- ^es, we find tliat we and this deficit may be ther ■ expenditure tor the tx-r--;;;- p^.^m-ed, Cook, rsssKsvs--, ;^^^„ Agricultm-e 21,000.00 Salaries • 3,000.00 Criminal PiosecuUons 2,500.00 Coroners Inquests ••••;• _ 20,000.00 Crown Land OeP'^^'^^f "J,/; •■.•■.■... 2,000.00 Deaf and Dumb Institution g^^ qq Immigi-ation , 165,000.00 Education . . 30,000.00 .Legislative Expenses .•• • ^g oOO.OO Miscellaneous and Adv s ^ 15,000.00 Navigation Securities 8,000.00 Public Printing 20,000.00 replied that his attention iXever^^en'^alled to the matter, but he coiKd it of some importance. MISCELI-ASEOUS. „,. NoEin-r l>'»™";^,S,'S''Sti™To Rev. schools. Education ^^^ table a petition Hon. Pko. bEC y "«' committee from W. A. Hendiy. KeleiTca vu on Mines and Minerals. ^.^^ rj, Mr. MORRISON presented ^ P°^ , j^.^a tliat „f Lower Stewiacke^^^^^^^^ %i,,peanmce ii short time ago Poor Asylum. Road Compensation 500.00 8,860.00 Stcuuiboats, Packets and i ernes ^ ^ ^^qqq^^^^ Department of Mjnts^. • • • • • ■ 5o,000.00 ' i. Local Worifs 3,400.00 Transient, Poor . . . • • • • • ' ' ' " 4o',000.00 Int«iviit on Public Debt •••■;• 32,040.00 Balnnce ' " ' . $456,000.00 '-' Vrfh« Conntv of Colchester. A pan ,K3Curred in the ^?"\7 "j ■ ,nan had been oi the property ot *^'f '™j^ Jfrnpany ho was found on the person ^"jl'^^Xr grounds of last seen, and ui^n this ««l "t '^^Uon took suspicion, an an-est ?7 ..'\" . soUcitov General place, mider the advice ^^he Som ^ \ov the time being. ^^^^ bis trial, he adequate to P^f « ^'^^.St «" '^"*^"" *^''""' Avas discharged, '^n^Jf ?"e'" 'few pounds dam- the prosecutor, ^•f^o^™'^,ei asked that th« rrlxSdfS^C'bo refunded by the iiovernment. Hon. Mr. TROor „ might be ««V\nvv«vorto consider the pro .vould be weU, ^^"'J.f ^' ' reccdent .is would be pxiety of setting such ^ preccoe ^^.^ ^^^ involved 5" g-^SetWoSidbeeu mulcted de^tandho^^thepettio^^ w.ib in the pre. -'' magistrates,^tliei. might^^^. that the petition committee, it un in damufe'os ceedinga of the a remedy "SainsL^VA^'arose from the incom- Roads and Bridges., LcgeBi'>-nce., .$240,000.00 . 32,040.00 $207,960,00 them, rnnfusion and litigation p^Sney of the magistrates country throughout the T " TV*. V, YNN thought that the precedent Hon. Mr. iiLTfNN_uioi'B_ ^ ^Hi^/l. would ofBentog«iei'«^oo»i^"* oaassitte'^ I 286 debates' an» proceedings -Hi I v,o H^wiHP^ It -waa qratc possible that the netit™r hll gole beyond the law--tho court S S had dflibemt^ on the whole matter and were in abetter position to consider the case than the House. . Mr Pinko took tlie same view, and thought that numbera would avaU themselves ot such a precedert.ifit were once established. Mb MonRisON bore testimony to the high character of the petiliiii-i tj'ne = To asspss the Windsor and AnniipoLs ^^■"il^^^J Company for dvkcrates,-to mcorporate tl Woodbine gold mining compaiiy, -to amend the^t to incorpwate the Whidsor and Anna- polis Kailway Company,— to amend the act u - Ke to dyke and mai-sh lan.ls,-to extend the SrtionortheCoumuHsi«nei>. of streets to SvcSv Mines,-to amend the Montreal Lxplo- Sn Compa;y,-to iucori.orate the :=.>ciotj oi St. Vincent of Paid.-to y,rovide to the opening of a roau in the county o I'^'^tou,- mul to incorporate the lilasgow and Cape lire- ton Railw-iy company. Hun. 3Ir. Tkooi', from commitlco ol .axv Amendnit^nts, reported favorably on the bdls to amend the act respecting cattle gomg at arge,-to uu.end the act respecUng nulioads -to mnond the act respecimg bcense. lu the Kdo of into.xicatin- liquors.-to ame ul the aa re ating to mrniagcs, births, a... deaths,-t., It^nlmUh. act relalh., to '•^-«;''" /^-^-J^iC to amend the act in relerence to the M' tui,- ,o nraend the act, rcspectn.g '""•^^^^,f , 7^ 'J ♦i„. .w.f rp^nex•tintr the Supreme Coiul and us :,';;ij:*i!i:'::^^l'"<^ umeni the act renting to countY assessments. KOAP A.;i) B111U«B SKRVICE. Mr Jos McDoNALU moved the app()int- ..-^..Vf,,,.!. ot ttin Hiiin ol 8I0UU ana ^f.'") j;^oS^;;Hv:^y.ho;K>w"lC1aw and =Sthe^-s-,t:iL^^ Sr^r^sbS«er;5^S rmhli.! feolina against prosecutions. ■^ ?Ko LcSslativo Council announced by mes- sali^at they had Pa-^^^'l »"^" "'"%f ' on,X ?aLement of niUway damages in the county ^:»li!?6^m;n;^|^f^|?or. ^S^STtKLSay^ipS^'S^oo;;: 37 pany ; to mcorpoi-at« North Sydney Mamie,, Railway Company ; to incorporate the Carnar..- von Gold Mining Company; to incorporate the Union Temple of Good Templars ; to m- coi-porate the Sydney Mines I^dust^??:! .^° Provident Society ; to incorporate the v ictona Coal Mining Company, and to incorporate tne Caledonian Gold Mining Company.) Mr. Desbrisat again supported the mi, and explained that it made only a shght change in the existing law. If it were deem- ed unsuitable for the whole Provmce, it might be made applicable to Lunenburg Ooimty. Mr.SMiTU tliought that the bill was of i-ather too restrictive a character in requiring that the eg'nt should be a member of a lem. perance S^iety in tl.e district m which he was authoiizedtosell. AU the agent* were not open to the charge of selling indiscnmir- ^^m. Desbrisay concurred in the kitter re- mark, but said that this bill would meet a Dressing evil in some parts ot the country. 'j^D.McDoN ALB thought tliat the exist- ing law respecting such agents was indeed boTter. It provided that the agent should not be itestecfir. the^.quor which .he sold but did not provide any means by .. mch he should "mI^ DESBRISAT replied that the niat^ was wholly under the direct.on ot the Ses- "' Hon. Mr. TROOP regretted the obsei^atioM of the Speaker. The evils resulting from drunkenness were apparent ^ every part of the country, but he thought that moi-al Wid not'eSslariVe refc-m was the proper remedy The bill might be open to the objection ^^ legislating for a class as regards a pubho ""Son. SPEAKER said that tiie county of An- napolis was remarkable for hypocrisy in such. S matted. When last the Mame ijquor bill was introduced, he made up h^nun^^^^ vntp for it but was horrified to hnd his ieaaer desert him on the ground that cider was not ''"'^rDiCKiE supported the biU.. Temper- anfemendesired'/t, and every lacdit^^^^^^^^ be afforded them in then- benevolent ettorts. ]V^r KIRK thought the bUl very desurable and regretted the remax-ks of his coUea^e the Sneaker. It could not be denied that iein neiunce organizations had u^ne a great deal of ro™Guy'borough and throughout the Pro- '■"Son. SPEAKER repUed that in the partof the county with which Jus coUeaguo w as^b^ :^^3S,XiIS sale was ng^PP^ as in other parts. The law could not be car " MrFREEMAN said that the present law wa. defrc ive-temperance men had lound theu efforts fnistratJd, and ho was therelore, glad ♦l,nt the bill had been introduced. ,. ^ n Mr K?RK said that the principal _ object. of hi. bnnor re nark was to correct an impression niHKuii'. • .t,,,! bv the remarks ot his ::iUMguo^^^^ the Temperance or- „i Sns The biU would make the agent EaS not inly to the legal authorities but '^trR^roS^dVaUhe present law was sufficiently stringent. m DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS ir Hon. Mr FeRGTTSBON thought that Uthe law- weSmore x-igorou. it cotdd not be cai- "Mr'^NoRTHUPwasofthe same opmion,-at on^me floiur was aUowed to be sold duty free to Smen, a^d it was found that parties even SeS toX ength of dressing up r person as a feWan and sending him lor the houi-^ Such SSs would be constanUy practised undei ^"Sr^ti'sxT said the day had come when all must admit that the Temperance rrganiz^tions had done a vast d^lot good - it WM the duty of a christian egis^ture to aid their efforts by the necessary legislaUon. Mr. KiDSTON agreed that the Maine Liquor Law wTtheonlfi-emedy which should con- iistlntaybeaskedforif the advocates ot such SsSn wished to be fair and candid.- sfort of that, nothing but moi-al mfluence "" iSLl'Si. SECT, said he feared that if the liquor were only to be sold for «»-l'0« P«^: p^esa great number of pei-sons xvcn d gel skk for4e purpose of obtaining a supply. H Sie biU vms co^idered of any practical advaai- tae* it should have his support. Mr CHAMBERS said that the bill would not apply to places where licenses were issued. wSe Ucenses were refused the public senti- nienUended sti-ongly ^^^f\'\2ov"^^i Uquor, those who desired the hquor weie obhged to be silent on the subject and if they persisted in having it, to go U> low hous^- He tiiought that the bill would serve an exeeUent '^X'coPF.LAND considered that , the present law was suffieient. The bill passed. The Committee adjuorncd. The House adjourned. SATCBiJAY, Sept. 12, 1868. The House met at 11 o'clock. Several bills passed a third reading Ihe House then went into Committee on BiUs, and STup the Ml to amend the act relating to to the obiects of tlie biU being to increase Eay of petit jm-iesto one doUar per day andto^ Slo^w Graiid Jnrors the same tor a ■ tendance at the Supremo Court and at bes- "Tr KiDSTON said that the taTcation for the pay of jurors was already very heavy, to dpu- ble the miount would greatiy increase the *" Mr "white said that the question was not so much of the cost to the pounto as of he snftv ciencv of the remuneration oi the jm ore. 1 he SLe appealed to him too large; he sng- gested seventy cents >"«*«'«} f,^,f^,^?^ii,r „,, Hon Atty. GESEHAb siud that a doimi poi dav^^^s Utile enough.. When VTir'onJv his hon.e to attend as a juror, he V"\' ",^ " fj^ to give up a large poition of h.s time o set c the disputes of other people but had to lodge ftt a public house, where hm expenses weie ^ore^ than his pay. The whole cxpe..se did ' " „„^.<. ^„t of the county treasury, lor a tax of half a doUar was levied on each deciaiu- don on it and the plaintiff 'n each cause tried 'ton.'Mr.'^rSNK said that he had introcluc ed the bill. It was unjust to compel the ftr- mer or fishermen to leave his labor to attend to the litigation of other people tor the paltry remuneration of half a dollar per day, which did not cover his expenses if he went to a d^ cent boarding house. Hon. Atty. General explained that unoer the existing law Grand Jurors were not paid for attendance at the Supreme Court. . Mr. Desbrisat expressed his apprqyai Ol, , the bUl,— the renumeration which it gave, was. rather under than above the mai-k. Mr PiNEO considered the mcrease of pay highly necessary, as the present renumeration was insufficient for actual expenses. . _ Hon. Speaker said it should be borne in mind that there was a great difference between Grand and Petit jurors,-the former were dw- chargingthe public business and ought to b« paid by tHe county ,-the latter were settling, the lawsuits of citizens, persons who should be made to pay for the service. , ^, ^ . ,. • ' Hon Mr. Flynn eM)lamed tliat m Hi* county the Grand Juiy had made a present- ment for their pay on attending the Supreme Court,— the Clerk of the Peace doubted that 1ie had any authority to draw the money, but the matter being referred to t*>e Judge he de- cided that the presentment having been made and confirmed, the money should he paid. Mr KiDSXON said that the poor, county, school and other rates were already very bur, , . thensome, and that a measure to double the pay of Jurors would be very unpopulai-. Ip his county it was believed that this year rate*, would require to a large extent to be collected, ,., by force of law. The jury t^x would then be, about £90 and the bill would increase it to Mr White said it was true that jurors had to give up a great deal of time for the pubhc b.-neiit, but tlie remark was equally time of , magistrates attending sessions, constables and all other public riorvants. Mr Smyth said that the constable >\'a8 a very ' ill-paid officer, and the principle on which the bill was supported would exten^,, equally to magistrates. D the pay of ihe iurors were increased some provision should "be made in the bill as to raising the money. At present evei-y plaintiff paid mto court S6.00, but this must, be increased, or else the whole of the additional cost must be made up by tJixation. , , ,, ^ „ :„<~.*- Mr Desbrisat remarked that a magistrate might refuse to act,— a juror could not. Many of the iurors had to travel 50 or 60 miles and to live jn the cabins of their vessels whde at- tending court. . „*,•_„ Mr Smith said that his remark respecting magistrates had reference to attendance at the scffisions and to criimnal business. Mr White said that juroi-s could not be fully remunerated for their loss of time ; the obiwtofthe allowance was simply to cover their expenses, and ho thought that 70 cents per day, in addition to their travel lees, would *'" Hon ' Mr. Troop said that the objection niiule 03 to the want of machinery m the law , - ,-_ ^^-~ nfl.KfJ^.^i.l nllnwn.nr.e WOUld ap- ply as well to tlie proposition of Mr. ^^»to "« to the bill. It could be met by makmg the tox on each writ .-j^l instead of 60 cents. The biU OF THE HOtlSE OF ASSEMBLY. 291 would be a siiwple act of justice to the jurors who were iu some counties called away Irom their work at a very busy aeason of the year ; they continually made complamts about the present system, and were anxious to evade the Mr KiDSTOV said he had no objection to the Grand Jury attending the Sessions being remunerated, but the petit jurors should bo ^aid by those who made the quarrels and wtnt to' law. '-'- Hten Atty. Gen. said that there was no •-^■■^tDalOgy between magistrates and juroi-s. The office of Justice of tlio Peace was one • o^ honor, and was universally sought alter. :'-:Noone could contend that ^1 per day was toe much pav for a farmer leaving luabusi- " ' ness The difterence could be partly made up by makiug plaintiff pay into com-t I$12 instead ° Hon. SrEAKEU thought it rather significant •"» that the professional membei-s of the House all ■supported the bill. There wiis a vast dishnc- tion, which should be borne in mmd, between «rand and petit juroi-s. In some counties the tixes were already as high as the rental, and some individuals, to his knowledge, wore tax^ ed as much as £30. In vie*v ot these tacts he <;ould not vot» for the bill. ,. •„„ Hon Atty. Gen. said that the proiession supported the bill because its membei-s came 90 often in contact with juroi-s, and sympathid- ,iJ^ to jurox-9 was notsufficient, but he did not lish to *ee taxation ^^^r'^±.U%7ll£v wilUng that the Grand Jui-y should got #1 pei S^ and also the peUt juroi-s, provided the UtitfantB would pay tlie difference. XtrNDERS thought a clause should be addS. compelling the unsuccessful lawyer to ^^ml PBOv!'sEC. would not vote for the biU if the extra charge fell on the county. In ^ ^1 „*_.*„, iT:,! i.«r1 «lioadv been increas- ^r WHlxE^i^rkcKanhe charge could not be made to fall entirely on Uie litigant ; the Court might in some cases sit without try- ins a cause. , . , i.. Mr Desbrisay repelled the insinuations made in reference to the profession. The peo- ple need as wanri and true friends in the pro- fession as out of it. The lawyer^ in this House had no interest in this matter to regard, excepUng those of the jurors and the pubhc. It was idle to talk of the duties of petit jurora not being public business as well as those oi the Grand Jury. ^, ■ x- i Hon. Speaker said that iu passing thrdugii the counti-v he generally found that the finast properties "were owned by profta^ional «fn,— they should not attempt to protect their Chento at the expense of the country generally. It was the duty of the House to see that the in- dustrious classes of the country were not taxed for the benefit of taose who could aot manage their busine-ss -vvithout going to law. Hon Atty. Genl, proposed that the ta.K on writs bo extended to aU writs, whether decla- ration, summary, or sub-summary, and that the tax on declaration writs bo seventy-five cents instead of fifty. , , ^ ^^ .J <•„„ j Mr Smith remarked that t}ie coupt^ fund would not be mueli increased in this way,^ as suits under »80 were jjenerally brought betore ™lfon^ Mr Troop said that the insinuations against members of the legal profession coijld well be disregarded, but they were discredit- able to the House. In one case where th« Grand Jury had made a presentment lor high- er fees the wHble rate had been quashed on certiorari. He would strongly oppose payment of the magistrates, but he tliought the juro'-s should have a fair remuneration. A shght al^ teralion in the table of fees would prevent the tax from faUing on the counties. _ Hon Atty. Genl. remarked that the urn rcauircLi some utatistical knowledge before its adoption, and Ae committee thereupon resolv- ed to report a resolution for its postponement for three months. The Committee adjoui-ned. Mr Dickie asked the government toiay lon the table any correspondence ^i* OieJJomin- lon Government as to the route of the Interco- lonial Railway. The House adjourned. Monday, Sept. l4. I»IoruinK tSessiom. The House met at U o'clock, and went itvi« '^''^iCtll To 'ind the Act relatuig to «ie Supreme Court and its offlcera passed AJso, the bill to enable the inhabitants o Sydney , to n-Lure a fii-e engine. Also, the bill to mcor- Kte the Colonial Gold Mining Company. Ako the bill in reference to the registration ot MarriSge, Births and Deaths. Also, the biU to amend the act in reference to' i-aurous. The So amend the law relating to Mihtm w^« then taken up, its object l)eing to prevent the MiUtirblg^'called into service beyond Uie Province, except by order of the Lieut. Gover- "^^^n'bSlKt askedlif it would be^^^^^^^ .^ _.ui„i, ^.^fid in all nrobability be disallowed by the Domimon government, DEBATES AND PROCEEDIi;fGS 292 Hon Attt. Genl. said thet the British North American Act seemed to contemplate that the «)ntrol over the MiHtia hitherto exercised by Her Majesty should be vested in the Governor General; th<;re was some vagueness m the act, however, and it woidd be well to express the views of the Legislature. One of tlio wo-^t ieatui-ea of the act seemed to be that it might authorise the calling of our people to the de- fense of Canada. The passage of the biU would give the Canadian government an opportunity to say whether such was their intention or not. Mr. Dickie thought the bill a verj- necessary *gne. A number of men had turned out to dm! under the recent orders, and these aiight be entrapped by the pretence of enlistment. Mr. YonNG thought that the power of send- ing the Militia beyond tiie Province should not even be given to the Governor and Council. Dr. Murray said it was important that the bill should be passed. Canada had robbed as of our rights and liberties, and it remained to be seen whether the bone and sinew of tins country would be taken from it at the dictation of a Canadian minister who was a rebel in 1837, and, he believed, a rebel in 1868. Mr. Desbrisay saidthat the anti-confedemtes had been accused of deceiving the people by raising a false cry about the Militia being taken off. This bill would test that question. The bill passed, also the bill to amend the act relating to Insolvent debtors; also the bill rekting to townships and township officers. The bill to amend the law relating to County Assessments was then taken up and discussed. The bill provides that the Collector shall make. a return of his collections within a year, and shall be held liable for all the rates unless he can shew that he has used good diligence to collect them. Ite.iables the county treasurer to issue distress warrants, and authorises the Sessions in each county to abolish the poll tax if they think proper. Considerable discussion took place on a clause allowing the constable ten cents per mile on his travel to arrest a per- son for the i-ate. Hon. Speaker thought that the fees would be fai- too high. , Hon. Mr. Cochran desired that the County ofHaliiax be exempted from the operation of the bill. , , Mr. D. McDonald explained that the law gave no travel fees in such cases, and the prac- tice was for the magistrates to make an allow- ance which diftered in most counties. He had introduced the bill from the knowledge which experience had given liini of the inadequacy of the present law. Mr. White considered that the fees m the bill were too higb. ' » e y were greater than tiiose allowed to the Bherift". Mr. Desbrisay thought it would lie well lo insert a clause preventing arrest for the rate. Par-tiec arrested generally swore out and the county was put to the expense of maintaining them. , Mr. White said that tliis would prevent the oollection of at least one fourth of tlie r»te8. Hon. Mr. Flynn suppoi-ted the bill. He be- lieved that a lai'ge sum was annually kit un- collocted from defects in the machinery of the law. Mr. PoKDY said that by allowing such large tU(K^« mileage a constable might be sent ftom the Shiretown to the outskirts of the county to arrest half a dozen delinquents, and by get- ting the fees on each of them he would make a handsome sum. The office of County Coii- stiible would be then one of the best offices in the Dominion. Mr. KiDSTON supported the bill. It was not generally speaking wise to put a raaa in jail after the distress warrant had failed to exact the rates. It was not often done unless th'ere was good ground for believing that tl^e party would pay. Hon. Atty. Gkn. said that the question was whether u was expedient to give traveUing Mr. r icfeEY said that under the hill all de- linquontiJ must be put in jail because the Col- lector Wios personally liable unless he had uaed all legal means to collect the rate. Mr. D. McDonald replied that the bill was not more stringent on that point than the existing law. He consented however, that the clause should be struck out. The remainder of the bill passed. The Committee adjourned. The House adjourrcd. Afternoon Session. ' *•' The House resumed at 3 o'clock. VOTE OF THANKS. This afternoon having been named as .tbe time for presenting the thanks of the House to the delegates, the Speaker called Hon. Messrs. Annand and Troop and Mr. Smith to seats pro- \'ided for them within liie bar, Hon. Mr. Howe being absent. Hon. Mr. Speaker.— The House have cononitted to their Sneaker the agreeable duty of • jimunicating to you the tlianks of the peo- l^le of Nova Scotia and their representatives for the faithful, zealous and able manner in which you executed the duties of delegates to Great Britai:i, under the authority of a resolu- tion of this House on the subject of confedera- tion, in which this Province has been involved against the will of the people. It affords me infinite pleasure to be able to add my testimo- ny to that of the House in favor of the signal sei-vioes you have rendered to yournative country, and I most cordially congratulate you and each of you on your good fortune, in hav- ing obtained and above all in meriting, the ap- plause and approbation of your tellow subjeo;^* of Nova Scotia. committee Of supply. The delegates having withdrawn, the Hoiwe proceeded to the considerutim of tlie estimates. Mr. PiNEO said that in the foi-mer part of the day he had asked the government to lay ou the table a statement of the amount paid to the Commissionei-s appoint<>d to examine the finan- ces, the amount paid to Dominion and local menibei-s, the amount paid to the Counsel and Solicitor in England for their opinion given to the delegates, the amount paid for printing and other expenses connected with the Repeal delegation, and the gross amount paid to the delegates. He asked whetlier this information would be fui'iiished liefore tho e-^timatea were tsken up. , , , ^ ^ Hon. Prov. Src. laid on the table the state- ments asked for, excepting as to the Amount paid to the f not in a poeitii oomo in. The House Supply. Hon. Prov #23,700 bo vij neoted with t ■^'^ Mr. Pinko 'toqiiition to th t-pieceof pr« to scrutinize bat when he ctble, evident mind of the mutter to pas clared, short ever small i found himsel ^dered right, yrroag; that him in calliii estimates. Inid on the t that the fina in a very ba arguments wWch were Cbnfcderati ness had lai ing that the a condition, had not be had cbnteni there was a of the Gov contradict were untru statement i on this o< finaiices oi condition the Provifn Estimates hon. m6m' was not pi that exprc estimates, Blancharc those estii before th€ th« comi speech of a loctui'e the eyes would en nearer tV be had d( that instt be #100,( he woul vemmen sence o! It woul about th try, and with a V regard t attentioi coiJipttrt it was § the past fuuud tl OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 2dS i ; "^The^House then went into oomiuittee of ^^Wuu Pkov. sec. moved tfi.it tho mm of #i23 700bov..;«d to defray the cxpen«cH oou- ,v2tion to thirty-^ix gentlemen, it migbt seem nS?o?pSption on hisparttoattemi^ l™rttm- tn WBB Without comment. He tiaa at SS Son55l«.«.ki„gl.i.«.t, that to- ■wr small uSgWbetho "monty •" "jhich '.e S if. ig in qnation *« '^JJ' *' were untrue, and thjy noi aaving u .„' ifi S^»cnt .till ..tood nnm,po.cl,.A HeJouU sjiSio^{f»^rri5£,»"^- Estimates ne :'^", - ^ ^54^. Blanchard , hen. °^^™^«'1,J'^' id ve Sir Pineo) thought wn. not present and l.e(M ^.^^^ ^^^^ that expression sincere untu ^^^^ .^ ^^^ estimates ^"i°%.n°a member of the House Blanchard were »*Vi?^,'^,^^<, aUowed before the Honse. " "^ ^n^ fluency oh ■ th« command ot l^^S^ ^^ ^eart such speech of Mr. Jlaijchard be wotiiq V*^^'' o?4h?pST^eir designs, U the eyes «f ^'^« P^Xincial Secretary to come would enable the l^rovmciai 00 ^^^ „qq ^i,„„ securer the true^-f ^^show^ed^h.' country he had done;. ^ When tic si ^^^^^^ that instead of ^'i?nei^ inqueats. These two sums he added Se 124.000 and also #^000 incre^ - ^« estimate lor Education. As to Immigration, he ZTdtm put down for the agent,-^n renj^ct ot"that*«*m he would i-epoat the remark made bv the hon. member for Colchester, Mr Mot- TsoMSe other day: ^^^ ^o-ld^^«T..£S men to di-aw theh- own conclusions. inij»t«n ToulK added to the others ^h,«l^JJ^J»4 named. For mneoessary outlay tor Jegislatove Senses owing to ne^^less ProtJ^on ^ he session, and increase ot number ot ^f^^^^ ConnciUoi^ #^2000. The grant to t^fe Poo^» Asvlum kst year was only «*12, 000 —«i« ^ SerhLdputitdcwnat #20,000,-he assumed That ti^e cost would not be greatty increased a* tS iStution was full last year. He alsoBtruck tho C'ominion govenimtnt were ready to taite the buSgotV the hands of the government SSo're the Province should not be^u to this unnecessary outlay. J.^« ^Jg'^^^fS hi» hnd emmorated amoumed to #SO,t>uu winou ^LnnfPd from the estimated expenditure, ■S2 slo wouW leave for actual and necessary #562,88U wo"^^ t^",,g Ti,e correctness of these :SSSSSd woSdl,: made apparenthy '^'r^ZZTo'^'rlt-to the estimated re- He wouia now ^ ^jf Klines, the — «n£»rtteX»°; tarv had only estimated toi- 1868 #«">"""• '^ WrPflse from new mines he added to the #6000 Ik^innt^d for 1868 would give a total increase ^•^enue for this depaxtment over and above ot revenue i^. r he would 'leave the estimate of #13,796^ bu ^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^ the sum at #iuu,«uu. ■^,'-" „ , ^^ ^^^^ esUmated revenue was ^/.OOO.— t*®. eo^ia '^ undewtand why that should be, for in 1865 it ""r'?4o fiir Even suDOOsing there would be a^au'^'uotion, he couldsttU saieiy aua#v:«,- 294 DEBATES AilD ^ROCBEDINOa 000 which would bring the receipts of the tic- , partment to ^3000 leas than they wer3 in 1867. lliiB would make an add tion to the gross re- venue of #30,000, whica added to the sum estimated by the Prov. Secretary, would mnko the revenue ^■581,600. Deducting from tliis Uie expenditure aiwording to his, Mr. 'Pineo's estimate, would leave a balance to the credit of the Province of $08,852, and ho believed that if he were acquainted with the items comprised in the sum put down for miscellaneous ejfpen- ««8, he could get S5000 more out of that. He hoped due considerBtion would be given be- . tore the House proceeded to vote such laige Bums as wex-e asked for in the estinmtes laid on the table. Hon. Pkov. Sbo'x congi-atulated the hon. member in being such an apt scholar of hisJute leader, and on having succeeded in makinji jl^OO.OOO out of $400,000. As regards the state- ment that the calculations of the hon. member for Inverness had never been answered, he beg- ged to diasent from that opinion. Those calcu- lations ha^ l»een answered over and over again to the satisfaction of the House, and of the oounti-y, and he could defy any one to gainsay -■what had been said on this subject from the first, ei.'Jier by the govemaient or their suppor- ^t«tB.. IJe could not help regarding the objec- ti«tx just made to the estimates, as ridiculous. J^ would not be singular to hear the govern- ment charged with proposing extravagant ap- propriations, but it was sU-ange to arraign them for aaying we have only so much money and our expenditure must be confined within that amount. The bon. member had showed his unacquaintance with the facts, by his remarks* on the civil list. That list now included the salaries of all the clerks in all the depart- ments, which was not the case formerly — that was the reabon why it appeared large. For criminal prosecutions $3000 had been allloweJ, and in the six months of the year already gone $1788 had been paid. For Coivners' Inquests $2000 ha- been put down, and $1030 had been paid during the half yeai-. As to the receipts from the mines the estimate coidd not be far astray, because it was based on the receipts of the half year; it was just the amount handed in by the Commissioner. The hon. member could hardly be astonished that the receipts should be leas tlian heretofore,— rit was a well known titctthat tlie Coal trade was not one tenth of what it was when the markets of the United States were open. The amount put down for revenue from the Crown Land Department had been furnished by the Commissioner, who would be Ukely to midte it as large as possible. He regretted to find tlie hon. member for Cumlwr- land, in refen-ing to the assets, included a sum of $183,000 which could not be expected in fol- lowing years. $39,000 remained as a balance in the Treasury, wherea^i a deficit was appre- hended for next year,— $22,835 liad been re- ceived in return for loans to the Educatioijal Department, and $1100 unproperly paid for Immigration. For an-ears, Ukewise there had b^n received $119,599. None of tliese sums could be expected in future. He would not oc- cupy furtlier time, as he had laid on the table an estimate tor 1869, showing clearly what the state of the Province would be then, when the aesetB would not be increased by the arroare. Mr. KiDSToN suggested that disovission be re- served until the House went into comn>itA«e on the gonei-al state of the Province, 'flie hon. niember for Cumberland had been led astray by his imagination, and had got on tlie wrong scent. Hon. Si'KAtKK said that this waa the proiwr time for disciwBion. He was glad tp see tlia Prov. Secretary so fully able to answer the ob- jectiojw Bjade, The explanation given showed how possible it was for a gentleman having tlie best uitontionsto fall, into error in such uwtiOTs. Mr. Dickie said that the Crown Land Pe- partment comprised a Commissioner and seven Clerks. •He asked whether some i-eduction «1 tliese expenses could not he matle. Hon. Peov. Sbc'y. replied that any r«iduction r<">c:iir:.enued by the Crown, JLand Committee, who had the matter in hand, would probably be made. He had omitted, in replying to tlie hon, member for Cumberland, to explain tliat the expenditure of the Poors' Asylum was a matter wliich tihe government could not con- Uol, When the accounts were brouglit in Uie money liad to be paid. ITio expenditui-e tor the half year was more than half the estimated amount. The vote for the Civil List^ passed. Also, tlie vote of $1000 lor Criminal prosecutions, and $500 for Coroner's luqueste, above the aruount autliorized by law. Hon. Phov. Skc'v. then moved tl+e vote o» $163,000 for Eduoation. Mr. White asked whether this gi-ant could be reduced, tmd the i-eductioii be added to the road grant? Hon. Paov. Sec' v. replied that as a large part of the year had ah-eady expired, the reduc- tion could uot be made till next session. The vote passed. Also the vote of $34,000 JSur Legislative expenses. On the motion for $15,320 for Miscellaneous sei-vices, Mr. Townsend proposed that the grant of $600 for reporting decisions of the Supreme Court be struck oif. ^^ Mr. Whixe opposed this proposition. Tlie repoits were valuable to all classes in the coun- try, Hon. Paov. Sec't. said he liad enquired into the matter, and had cpme to the conclusion that it was very important to have the decisions re- ported. It tended to pi-^vent litigation. Hon. Speaker said that the reports were highly valuable to all classes of persona, and and gave an illustration of their service by re- ferring to a case in which the rights of mort- gages were largely aflected. The money could not be spent bettei- on Uterary matter, Hon. Paov. Sec'y. said that it would not be easy to strike off the allowance when eight monUis of the year had expired. Mr. TowNSENB said it would be well for the reporter to take notice that the grai4^ would te opposed hereafter. The vote passed. Also, the vote of two thousand to the Deaf and Dumb Institution. Also, the vote of $65,000 for Department bt Works and Mbes. Also, the vote of $6000 for Agricultm'e. Ml'. White enquired whether there was- not a sum still in hand for the purchase of a miodel tarm. . ;, ., Hon. Prov. Sec' y. replied that $~uuu oaa been set apart for that purpose and was still to Bank. Son. Paov. ! 000 for Iftvigal Hon. Speaki Goveroment to waters and ligh cessary to meM Hon. Prov. govemmem, or houses, and of Mr. White ' only to be appi wateiB ali-eady unall. A ver; been made by he was anxiov] ■idered by the Mr. Hooi'E ment an api through him. Mr. DiCKii certained on ( government c curities entir Hon. Prov The Minister the instructic were comple vemment, w etl. It was ■> had been rec enquiry of M ment would ments in tht Mr. Dick ment were « Nova Scotis public work Union Act views. It 1 govemmeni for, even at Mr. PuR] sm-ely recq eanvass tha Dominion | vantages v Hon.PRi pier was a ment. The vote for $20,00( Hon. Sp be eulficie Mr. Pin duction. Dr. Br< was largei ii. the am p aupera. Mr. Pu the evil o would be monoy wi Tlic vo printing, Hon. I $30,000 1 Asylum. amount Mr. ^ making i -rp.nt. ] a shillinf roads. OP THE HOUSE OP' ASSEJfBLlf. 295 >mmittM oo Tlie hon. led aatray die wrou){ tthe proirar tp (toe tlia iwev theob- [v«n aluowod nob umtMtN. J Land Pe- er and saveu L-eduction ol ny i-teduction Committee, lid probably lyiujf to tlie explain tliat lylum ■was a dd not con- ouglit in tlie )euditui'o tor be estimated id. Also, tlie 3Cutioii8, aud ? the amount tl^e vote oi' grant oould added to the yiiscellaneous that the grant the Supreme ibaition. Ttie iS in the ooun- enquired into oncluslon that e decisions ra- jation. reports were ■persons, and service by re- jhta of ,mort- 3 money could fitter, would not be 3 when eight ae well for the l-anit would he vote of two lb Institution, department of t« of ^6000 for there war not ue of a naodel lat |)SO00 Bud ud was stiA In Hon. Pbov. Sec't. moved the vote of »10, %S:l^?SEK"srS'if the Dominion Government took aJl the wharves T>^T'^t wRtereand lighthouses, ii would hardly be ne- ''Ton' ^^-.iBO-v^'B^d that the Dominion ^'J!«,, onlv assumed control of the hght- govemmenL only ^umea ^^^, p;^„_ *^°rV^?r?enquSVhether the gr^ntw^ o,Jy tobeapprop^riat^dfor keopmg up break- waters ali-eady constructed. It not, it "»jns too Tm^Averv urgent application for aid had SSmadeby^the,Wbitont«of Malnai^eu, and STwr^^ous that itshouldbo tavorably con- "tr'lSoPETaI^™e^ upon thegorern- me^t' ST^plicatioS which had been made *^mAS^e enquired whether it had been as- eeSn^ on good authority that Ihe Dominion go^i^mertdidnotassume the navier.itiou se- ""Son Irov^LcT. replied in the affirmative. Th?Min?tex of PubUc ^orks had g.ve-Jnm the mstruction that none but «»ch works ^ .ere --P^^^ f.-^^^^^. Sged and'a^u^- irTtt^s'^Uh «" tha^the Digby per •.idbeenre^ogi^edas^^^^^^^^^^ S'^o'ife^nd^r'to^eet special rcquire- "*1S? SrcKxr^d^fft^e Donunion^vern^ * il«, pvidentlv determined to deal with S^vrsETu^^i'they I>1-J,^«^-'JS pubUo works as they Plf.ased, and to P"* ™ Union Act a constmcUon to suit theur own . Tt was hard to know what the i-iocai "'^S'rvl'sE'vl'replied thatthe Parrsboro' pie^ was plumed by the Domimon govern- ""The vote passed. The motion was then made for ^20,000 for maintenance of paupers Efon. Speaker suggested ttMit^l^,oou snoum "^sSIkeo supported the proposal for a re- "^Tr^BROWN said that the number of paupei-s wa^ laSSS^ year than tot, but the increase TtheSunt was in advance of the number ol '^ MripuRDY considered this an illustration of thfe^il orJonfedei-ation. Nothing however ^"h»^pS??m. tl..n moved th, vot. of Siingn had been spent this year ou u.. roads. ' Mr. Dickie spoke to the same purport. Be said it was the understanding that a comnutteo should be appointed to see iTa reduction could not be made in the cc«t of the new Poor's Asy- "mV. Landers said that this was bne t The contraot havitfc been entered into must be earned o^ -The understanding however was that the old building should be sold when th new fne was completed, and such a provision might be in- corporated in one of the bills sent up for appro- val by the City Council. Hon. SPEAKER referred to the public works hitherto undertaken and f^^e large amotmt by which their cost exdced what had be^ '">^ tic'pated. The works were olt«" ""^t^^^ri on conditions which were iover f^J^^ JJje promise of the City of Hahlax to pay «1W,000 towards the i-aihvay was an example of thw^ The bill for tlie sale of the old ground might not passinthe Legislative Council.-alreadyap. pUcation for the use of the ground as a pubhe . Jark was talked of. ""h^^f ^! ''S^ a^d that the country needed decent bmlges and , roads, and the government should not perfomi their part of the bargain unless the City pertor ,,^ "* Hon^PROv. Sec. said that he knew well th«' state and requirewents of the country, but the ^legislature and Government were bound to caiiT out the obligations imposed by the StA- tute He would be happy if the expense could bespared. The City Council had pmd their ''t/p?RB?sugg;>sted that the votes be made conditional on the sale of \b« old prope^. Dr Browk said that a bill which had been introduced asked leave to assess the City for ^ additional flO,000. He would not approve ot spendhi mor^ until the old buildings w*re ''''a'hc Legislative Council . mounced their assent to the following bills . lo incorporate the Carnai-v-on Gold Mining Company ; to m- co^omte the Sydney Mines Industnal and Pr?vident*ociety ; to incorporate the mepbr. rough GollMinrng Company; to incorj^o™^ the Victoria Coal Mimng Company ; to mcor-. ForateUni«n Temple 6f Good Tempto; to Lcor^orate the l^^^^ees «f Tnni^ Church ; , to aiithorisetheopening of a road ^n the County ofPictoa; to incorporate the Society ot St. ViSent of Paul ; t^ exteM to Sydney Mine, the act respecting Commissionei-s ot. btieets, lo amend the act^elating to Commissioners of Sewei-s; to amend the act to mcorpoiate the Moiitreal Exploration Company, and to mcor- . porate tiie Woodbine Gold Mining Company. ^ MrNoRTHUP said that the greater part ot thf money asked to be voted for the construc- tion of tL Poor'« Asylum J.f b««^"JP-^^^^^^^ .•eiulv —another portion of $3,000 or f 4,000. j 'vr8nowdue,sothntthe amount m question was vCTy small. The institution was gi-eatiy "^SifVote passed. Also the vote of §3,000 fn,. y^Mcf of flistrese. Hon. Prov. Sec. said it could not now be 296 DEBATE* AND PROCEEDINGS 4 inoreaMtd, but th« gpvernir.ont would M fer m DOiK'ile be willing irom time to time to make Jrach advRnccB on next year's gvtmt iia weie absolutely neceasai-y. Hon. Speaker said ilmt the road money ot some of the counties were mortgaRed for three yeare in advance, and the membei-s could not spend a shilling or procure any money from the Banks. The vote passed. , , . Hon. Pkov. Sec. said that the vote which he had to propose for Steamboate, PackeU and Ferries was Ini'ge, but as he had explained on a former day, tliis being principally for the copiuge of muils, an eflorb to get the grant re- funded by the Dominion Government would be made," and notice might be given that iL would not be made next yctu-. The vote jrnsscd. Hon. I'Rov. Sec. then moved the vote ot !H-41,000 for tlie luivr Provincial Building. Ml-. FUKDY siiiu that his colleague hud stated that the Dominion Government were willing to take the buikUng and pay its cost, but he understood from other sources thstt they were not willing to pay the whole outlay but would pay this $41,000 only. ,^ ,,• • . f Hon. Prov. Sec. said tliat the Minister of Public Works was oi opinion that we were entitled only to such suniii,«a liad been paid since 1st July, 1867. ,„ . Mr. PuuDV said that this was following out •the rule, "get all you can and keep all you get." Why did not the Dominion Govern- ment adopt.the Windsor and Annapolis Rail- way, and pay the sums under that contract. The vote passed. ; Mr. Dickie said the government havuig been trusted last winter with the whole ot the public moneys of the country they hud dis- chai'ged the Uust well. In view ol' the re- sponsibiKties wliicli might be thrown upon Uiero, imd in view of the present condition of the country, he ga/e notice that he would move that #50,000 be. placed at the disposal of • the government foa- secret service money. The Comniittee adjourned. The Houic adjourned. TuESUAY, loth Sept. Th» House met at 3 o'eloclc. ' Mr. McDonald asked the Governinenl to lay on the t^blc the, apiilication of Hon. P. Smyth, dated 8th August, for a.coalclpn at Port Hood, in order, that the papere might be referred to the comniittee on Mines and Mincrslls. Hon'. Prov. Sf.c'v suggested that it wiis too late in the session to lol'er raultei-s to coin- mittecs. . ^r. Desbkisat report'^d Ironi the special eommitt(!e on the pctilions reliillve to land taken at Fisher's Grant, and introduced u bill in accordance with Uie r'port. Hon. Piiov. Sko'V. laid on the Uiblc; a Min- nte of Council in leJ'tn-ence to tho routi) of the Intercolonial Railway. EDUCATION. Hon. Fkuv. Sec'y read a reiwit. of Uie com- mittee on Education. > ^on, Mr, Feynn a^ked what ^com«(e w«uld bo pursued in reference to the separate schools question, the committee having referred the whole matter indetinitely to the House. Hon. AxTY. Genjciial thought Uiat the session was too far advanced to take up a matter of so much importance. Mr. Whitk said that tlie counti-y had t)een led to believe that the matter would be brought before the House practic^y tjii-i session, . Hon. Mr. Fi,t;N»T said that this wa« one of. the most important mattere before the com- mittee, and no other peHtions were so numer- ously signed as those relating to this question. Day after day the committee were urged to i(!port, and it wiis only reDsonabla to expect that they woul^ have reported a week before. It wa^ also genemlly understood that the re- port would bo favomble to the prayer of the petition*. A great manj attempts had been mode to postpone the matter. Ho asked special leave to introduce a bill on the subject, entitled " An Act for the better encouragement of Eilucation." Hon. PKOV. Sec'y. said that the committee had no desire to shut out action on the matter; he did not know how it could have been un derstood tliat the committee would report dif- ferently. , , . r Hon. Speaker suggested that in future com- mittees having matters of such importance be- fore tliein should report in part. Hon. Mr. Cochran said, that us a member of the committee he had been under the im- pression that the subject would be dealt with in tlie House. It would have a bad effect to shelve it now. ^ „, , , Hon. Prov. Sec'y said that Mr. Blanchard had been a member of the committee; on hisi being unseated, Mr. Purdy, who took his place, asked a short time for consideration. The committee liad i->)pprt«!d at Uie earliest possible Hon. Mr. Cochran thought that Mr. Pm-dy had been put on the committee to defeat the measure. , ^i. * Hon. At'IY. Gen. eaid he understood that the pet-ition from Arichat was signed by ovary man in die County, and Avas, therelore, oi great iinpoi'tance. The guards which tha friends of the pleasure had imposed, had a -, tendency to i-emove all objections, makmg the regulations subject to thfe direction ot the . School Commissionei-3 of the County and the (,'ouncil of Public Instruction. Most of the objections were, therefore, removed, but it was well known how the pubhc mmd vras divided, and at; an extensive debate would j.robubly take place, he thought it unwise to take up tlie matter thiw Session. Hon. Mr. Flynn said this view would bo correct, if separate schools, as asked for in the l)etitious, were the objects of the measure. The bill left the mutter, as had b(!eu said, un- dcj- the control of the Comrnissionei-s. Hon. Prov. Sec v. said he would not oppose tlie introduction of the lull. , ,, lion. Mr. Fekui'son said that the blame Hliould not be thrown on the Conunittee. Mr Morrison was willing that the matter fliould be fbscusscd. He wiis of opinion that the "tIwiIa T^'.diication Act needed revision. Dr. Murray said that no desire to delay the matter unfairly could be imputed to t|»e Committee, objection to Mr. Dick up the who anxious to I Hon. Mr. understood intxoductioi support. The moti the bill to b Hon. Mr of the bill, ' cond readii oussion of 1 OP THE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. 297 be schools ferred the BO. that the ake up A inti-y had • would bo . cAlly tjiw vraa one of. , e the con(i- ",. so numar-. , j question.", , 1 urged to ( to expect oek before. liat t'le re- lyer of the had been ked special pt, entitled gement of committee :ho matter; fe been un 1 report dil- future com- ortance be- a member der the im- ! dealt with ad effect to , BloncHard tee; on his( ik his place, ition. The ieat possible Mr. Pm-dy o defeat the irstood that ed by ov'«ry herefore, of which the )sed, had a , making the tion of the . ity and the Most of tHo ived, but it ; mmd was ;bate would t unwise to w would bo d for in the he measure, sen said, un- 31-8. d not oppose t the blame inittee. t the matter opinion that revision. lire to delay iputed to t|ie Committee. He thought there would be no objeoUon to the bill being brought r.i. Mr Dickie said that the bih might tnng up the whole matter of Education. He wa« anxious to have amendment made. Hon Mr. Troop said it should bo aisUncUy nnderstood that members who a«f "t*^ *« ^" introduction of the bUl were not pledged to its ^'^The motion, to suspend the rule and allow the bill to be introduced, passed-men con. Hon Mr. Fltnn urged the second reading ofthebiU,but this was objbcted to, as the se- cond reading was the proper stage for the dis- cussion of tjie measure. BILLS. Hon Mr. Troop, Chairman of Committee on amendment of laws, reported favorably of several bills, and adversely to the bills relatmg to County Assessments, to highway labor, and to amend the Act relating to the e ection ot members to serv*. in General Assembly. The House thon went into Committee on Bills, and passed the bills to confirm the lists of electors of Yarmov. .h and Inverness ; to de- frav certain expenses connected with the cm government; to incorporate Kings Co. Medic^ Society; to annex the township of Uniacke to West Hants; to appoint Commissioners to ap- pituse i-ailway damages in t^f ^.county ot king's; to amend the Act relating to the Poor's \sylum and Hospital; to alt^r the sit- tings of the General Sessions ot the County of Hiuits- to repea: the Act to authorize the e^tablihment of a Pi-ovincial Stock Farm, to ^corporate the Presbyteriari Congi-egation of St. Peter's; to restore certain lands tiiken lor railway pui-poses at Pictou. The Committee adjourned. The House adjourned. Wednesday, Sept. 1ft, 1868. The House met at 3 o'clock. _ _ Mr NoRTHrjp presented a petition from merchants of Halifax in reference to the trade relations of this P-ovmce with the United States He moved the appointment of a com- mittee to consider the subject of a Reciprocity Treaty with that country. Hon Atty, Gen. said that no harm could be done by the appointment of such a co-nmitte^ The Washington government at all events iS-e not bound by the British North American ■^Mr. Morrison thought the appointment of a committee very necessary, as the largest in- terest of the country, the coal trade was stUl under the control of the Local legislature. Hon. Speaker su^sted that it would not be wise to appoint a gbmmitteo on such a sub- Wt when it was well known that the House couid not control the trade relations. Hon. ATTY. Gen. said that it was doiibtjil whether the House had power to deal ^v ith the matter or not. In his opinion there could be no impropriety in taking such steps as could be ^ taken When the previous treaty had been ar- ranged, it was considered requisite «"r the e- ^Mure of Nova Scotia to pass an act enibo- dvuiK its provisions. , "Hon. Pkov. Kec. thought uit.- II^Ti-^i^-fiJi perfect right to take Uie action proposed. It 38 might be well to have a delegate to watch unj proceedings which might take place. Hon. AiTY. Gen. said that a private indi- vidual had largely and beneficially influMoced the trade regulations when the last treaty was arranged, therefore a recognised representatiTB of the Province might jierlbrm highly benefi- cial service. , , . ^ . , Hon Mr. Troop ikvored the appointment ot a small committee to report by resolution on the subject. . i^ The f allowing named gentlemen were tftwi appointed;a committee : Messrs. Purdy, Mftr- ray and Townsend. ^ Mr NoRTHUP presented a partial report from the committee on Public Accounts. The Legislative Council announced their as- sent to the bill* to incorporate the Iniematioiwl Iron and Steel Compaay ; to incorjwrate the Gloseow and Cape Breton Railway (.ompany ; to incovporatelthe Low Point Mining Company; to incorporate the Colonial Gold Mining Com- nanv ; to amend the act respecting cattle going at large ; to assess the Windsor and Annapohs Railwav tJompany for dyke rates, and to incor- porate the Trustees of Zion Church. EDUCATION. Hon Mr Flynn moved the second reading of the bill to amend tho Act for the better en- couragement of Fduoation. Mr Purdy said, that contrary to his own desires, he had last week agreed to F«tpone his resolutions in relerence to the »?aUot, a question which he regarded with deep mterwit, in consequence of the session being so far 8^- vanced and of other business pressing, ihe principle which* the present bill involved was highly important and would agitate the entii-e county. It would change, to a large extent, the educational system now in operation. Jn endeavoring to give a free education to aU chissesof the people, the Legislature should leal .usly guard any enactment by which the iystem wo^dbe injured "fd the progress of education in the country hindered. Without going ..t length into the question raised by the- bai. he would ask the House it it would not be reasonable to postpone tho matter until next session. In the meartime this and all other proposed amendments of the ^^"^ation Ac., and the petitions which had gone before the committee, might be printed, and the tnem^rs on returning to their duties, having received the instructions of their constituents, would be prepared to deal with the question nriore satis- factorily. Before engrafting into the educa- tional ^heme a new feature, it would be ne- cessary to consider the operation of the change, S^ask where its effects wo'^d end All Xroughouttiie country it ^"^ felt that under the present system many hn^k to eatablish BCparate schools, the guiiianco and contract would be vested in the Ooiuiuion Government. He trusted that this fact would be well considered by the House. Mr. Morrison said tliat the bill extended to all minorities whether on religioios or other questions. To make the school sectarian and denominational would be to cut up the whole system of Common School Education. There wore minorities in every district and the Com- missioners would be 0' fii-whelmed with apph- catious. Mr. White said that such a caae as that put by Ml. MoiTison in his previous remarks, it would not bo reasonable to imagine. No Com- missioners would bring a minority of 16, and bring them to be added to a minority of 10 in an adjoining section. Such a style of argu- ment was only splitting hairs. 7Ion. Mr. Fltnn said tliat there was evidently on the part of some members either a disincli nation to understand the bill or an inclination to make its meaning appear obscure. Separate Schools had been spoken of, but the bill would not establish separate schools pure and simple, although the petition asked for them. It had been naked what Was the principle of the biC ? He thought he had answered that question when ho said the protection of minorities. That was the object which the petition had in view, but he was willing to take the measure in the motlifled fonn contemplated in the hill. That principle was fully recognised by the law of every country in Europe excepting two, and was in lull operation in both the provinces of Ontario and Quebec. In Prussia, where every child must bo taught, reh'gious instriic- tion was imparted in the schools, and dtich de- nomination had a right to have its children taught its doctrines. There was a still higher principle involved : the right of parents by divine and natural law to choose the school in which their children should be educated. Thi» was the principle underlying the petitions which asked for the protection of miuoritiea ; but as ho and those who a^jreed with him in this matter found that there was a dibf.c*iit) on not to accede to the principle, and the right* which the petitions asserted, thoy were willing to take the modicum of those rights asked for iu the bill. As far as Lis county was concerned he was advocating the rights of Protestants. They had built a fine school house before the passage of the school law, but had not used it since. They had petitioned on this subject last year. It should be remembered further that the bTll only extended the system already in opeitilion in Halifax, under a clause author- ising the Commissioners to make just such ar- rangements as tlie Commissioners elsewhere were authorised to make by the bill. If sepa- rate schools, pure aiid$|niplo, were proposed, he could uudei-staud the opposition, but no radical change was asked. He would not occupy further time at so late a period of the Session. Hon. Mr. Cochran expressed his gi-atiiica- tioa that the biU had been allowed to he brought in. He was prepared to oppose any bill whicli would diaan-ange the educational system, but he found that the bill merely asked for the establishment of the system already canltd out in Halifax. Itbadb-jen made to appear that the proposal for »eparRt« ate sohoola, the >e vested in the t runted that this by the House. » bill extended to religioiM or other ol sectarian and at up the whole rlucation. There ict and the Coin- Irned with appli- I coae M thcit put ous remarks, it nginc. No Cotn- ority of 16, and linority of 10 in , style of argu- icre was evidently either a disincli or an inclination bscure. Separate ut the hill would pure and simple, )r them. It had iciple of the biU ? ed that question 311 of minorities. le petition had in ako the measure iplated in the hill, gnised by the law B excepting two, oth the provinces n Prussia, where religious instriic- )ol8, and etch dc- liave its children was a still higher ht of parents by )ose the school in « educated. This ing the petitions )n of miuorities ; feed with him in was a dibi'Ci'iltijn », and the rights thoy were willing ) rights asked for nty was concerned bB of Protestants, house before the t had not used it I on this subject Tiembered further lie system already sr a clause author- aake just such ar- sioners elsewhere the bill. If sepa- \ were proposed, pposition, but no He would not e a period of the 93ed his gratifica- n allowed to 5)e ed to oppose any e the educational t the bill merely nt of the system iifax. it bad been oposai for »eparRt« OP THH HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 2ft« ■ohodlfl wM something terrible, but the Cana- dian Premier bad not been afraid to corrr the whole aicaaure in Canada, and had been sus- tained on appeaUng to the country. Hon. Mr. THOor regretted tliut ho, for one, did not feel himself in k position to accede to the prayer of petitions signed so numerously and r.>«pectably by the inhabitants of Uichmond County and he regretted hW» that a matter ol •o much importance should have been brought forward at u period of tlie session, when so lit- tle time could be spent in its discussion. He ha** applied in those sections, and where was the necessity for i8 afterwards they would regret If It were tho feeUng of a majority of the people, that a well digested system should be ai-ranged for giving further safeguards to any particular . class, he would Joiu m supporting such a measure, but at present he could not see his way clear to support the bill. When petiUons were presented like that coming from the Church Synod, asking that the schools should be thrown open to the examination ot the clergymen of that body, he could not help fil- ing that tho schools were not the places for teaching the religion of one denomination or another, but places where tho minds of the young received that trainuag which was reqm- site to fit them .for tho duties of men and _ women. The teaching of religion might be 1 ft safely to the pastors poi-ents and the , geoular education to the -..ool teachers. By carrying on that principle, and by keeping , away from the school doora, anything by ; which it might be known what the rehgious opinions of a schoUir might be, the House would do a good service to the country. It ever there was a time when the voice ol lac- tion should be hushed— when a naa? mthe position of a legislator should hold bac'; fi-oin expressions \. hich wound the sensiuihtiei ot any class, it was the present, when such strug- gles were before the country. He would Eladly give his support to any measure which would bind up the people in a common brother- hood, and it was because he entertamed these views that he wished such legislation as that proposed in the bill, postponed. Mr. Dickie said that in brmgmg a question o so great magnitude before the House, those who asked for a change in the veiy conatitu- . tion itself should be able to set forth their rea- soils for desiring the change. He should sup - ryr^e from the biU Uiat mmonties were not pjro- teo^d, or that sufficient protection was not civen to some one class or another. " But on turning to the kw it would be found to be laid down that the auty ol the teaqher was to inculcate . principles ol morahty and sound rehgion these being the grand principles on which aU denommations could unite These duties were further inculcated m the instructions issued for the guidance ci tea- chers, and. u further protection wasgiTen voWv.. minorities from an order which provided that 300 > DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS where the pai'ents of any children stated their conscientious objections to any of the devotion- al exercises of the school, such devotional ex- cises should be held before the time for opening the school, or oiler the time of its close, and such children are not requiied to be pres- ent at those exercises. This would appear to give ample protection to minorities against anything objectionable. It appeared to him that the 'jill would work a change in this con- stitution, for one of the principles engrafted on that constitution, was that every denomina- tion should have peculiar claims upon the trea- sury or the lav. If a special privilege were now givci). to a particular class, it would bo changing the feature of the constitution. What was the evil from which it was desired that minorities should be protected? The bill would give them a right which majorities did not possess, becauw the majority had no right to have denominational doctrines taught in their schools. The scarcity of the population in many parts of the coimtry was such that it was ne- cessary foi all sects to unite in order to carry on an efficient school. If a right wei-e given to a minority to set up a saperate school, where would it end? There might be a minority in a minority, and divisions and dissensions would be fostered. The request that the Commissi- oners should decide in the matter, was asking a wrong principle, — the Ho"se should assume the responsibility of exercising its functions, instead of delegating them to others. The effect «f the bill would clearly be to destroy the schools ui every section where it was brought into operation. In Halifax the case was ditter- ent, because there were largo numbei's of each denomination. The House had b«en told that the principles of the bUl have already gone into operation in the localities in which it was most needed, and if that were the case why should the bill be pressed? He thought the measure premature, but held that if the House were prepared to adopt it they should go further and grant the petition of the Diocesan Synod. The delay of a few months could do no harm, but would enable gentlemen to inform themselves of their constituents' views. Hon. Attt. Gen. said that there were two obscure words in the bill. It used the term of minority without saying a minority of what, and it went on to say that the muiority might establishadistinct^school without sayingin what respect the school should be distinguished from the others. Mr. D. McDonald said in explanation that it was well known that the sections were govern- ed by the rate payei-s, — a cose like the follow- ing might occur: The majority might only consent to vote £80 for school purposes, — tlie minority might require £100; by the bill the mmority could assess themselves for tlie £100 and keep up their own school and the majority could keep up theirs. There was nothing in the bill which was calculated to give to one denomination a privilege which others did not possess. There could be no doubt about the tact that numbers of pei-sons had conscientious objections to sendiiij^ their children to a school "wiiicli "WRfi in tHfi HiuiciH g1' ^^iii'HGiis oi' n clititii'- ent religious belief. In one county from which petitions came the Protestants stood to the Ca- tholics as two to five, but the Catholics acceded to Protestant feehng, and separate schools were established. Before a sepatare school could b« established in any section two authorities had to give their consent: the Board of Commissi- oners and the Council of Public Instraction. The former were composed of the most liberal and intelligent minds of the country, and were fully capable of forming a judgment as to the wants of any county. The people would not do without the separate system, and he could not see what injury such a bUl as that before the House could inflict. Mr. Pdrdy said he would like the intro- ducer of the bill to explain to him how the measure would work in a section of twenty rate-payers and twenty-five scholars. Would the minority mean the minority of the children or the minority of the rate-payers ? Supposing it meant the latter how would they go into operation ? Would they vote a sepai-ate sum of ii.oney and have a sepamte teacher and scliool-house ? Hon. Atty. Gen. said that the majorities generally iniled, but the bill seemed to intro- duce a diflfereut piinciple. If the word minor- ity meant religious minority, then a small de- nomination might establish a separate school against the will of the majority. He asked if such wei'e the intention. Hon. Mr. Flynn said, that as the objections to the two words "minority" and "distinct" school, the language of the bill was explained by the fact that it was humedly drawn. Th« phraseology could be altered so long as the principle were retained. The word "religious" might be inserted before the word " minority," and the word "separate" instead of "dLtinot." In answer to the objections of Mr. I^xray, he would say that the regulation of the system would be in the hands of the Commissioners. In Arichat the Protestants formed a wealthy, intelligent, and respectable minority, — ^if the bill passed they could ask a share of the public funds to carry on their school. They had all signed the petition, and their CathoUc towns- men had joined in the request. He had no desire to interfere with the Common School system, and knew that Cathohcs were as anx- ious as persuas of any denomination to main- tain the educational organization. It had been said that education was under the present sys- tem as free as au'; it was well known that Cathohcs opposed what they considered the Godless system of education, holding that reli- gion was the basis of all instruction, and yet they were taxed for its support. One man might desire that his children should go to a certain school, but the law said they should not go there ; whore was the freedom in that ? If the Catholics of the country, forming a large body of the population, were to a man opponed to the present system, and were nevertheless compelled to support it, how could the system be said to be free ? The bill was well guarded, mid should meet with the approbation of the House. Hon. Atty. General said he understood that the bill proceeded principally from a peti- tion from Richmond county. He wished to know whether that petition had been signed K\r frjig iiihabitiin*^'^ o^ all denoiiiinatiGiis snd which denomination controlled the schools there at present. Hon. Mr. Flynn said that the petitions had come from Cape Breton and Antigonish coun- I OP THE HOUSfi OF A89EMBLT. 301 tiea U well as from Richmond. In Arichat the Frotegtanta were a minority, and every one of them, with a single excepuon had aigued the petition. The paity who had not si^ed it would have signed anythmg that would have the effect of destroying the prewent law. TheCathoUos had shown always a de- sire to concede fair play, and had one Frot^- ant on the board of trustees, just as they re- turned, like Inverness and Antingomsh, a Protestant member to the House. Mr. Smith said he regretted the position in which he felt himseli' placed, being prepared neither to support nor to oppose the bill stienu- ouBlv. He would much have prelerred that the matter should have been deferred until members had an opportunity of consulling constituents. Not having had such an but he had not yet heard a single oomplamt against the working of that part ol the system which the bill would amend. He had net been in communication with his constituents on the aubiect and therefore must vote for the propo- sal for delay. He did not think it wise to press the bill at so late a period of the session, when the feelings of the country could not be asoer- Hon Pnov. Secy, said it was well known • that he belonged to the Episcopalian body, from whom a petition had come to oppose the sepa- rate schools system. He was to a large extent opposed to tliat system; but finding the pnnci- ploso modified and guarded in the bill he would vote ngainst the amendment asking tor delay, beUeving that the measure would work no injury. ,, Mr. Uesbrisat said that as it was well their codsulucukj. ^.-.^v ..-..--o — opportunity, he felt constrained to vote lor tne ^"L YH7t°the°auestion would meet the House pL'posal f^ dehiy -ithout — itting lumsell J^o-j^^^J^^rtTas minecessary to dis- upon the subject ot the nm iiseu. Hon Atty. General said that though the bill ap^ared obscure he would vote for its going to committee where its phraseology could bo modified. It was apparently based on a pnnci- pie of justice, and the guarrb which surrounded it were sufficiently strong to remove apprehen- sion, it was designed to protect minontiM by enabling them to estabhsh a separate school, where they were dissatisfied ^^»th ^^Tw arrangements, with the consent of the Com- niis.<«oners and the approval of the Council of PubUc Inatmction. As the petitions were nu- merously signed, he would be wilhng to give the matter a fair consideration. Hon. Mr. Fergu890N thought thatno danger was to be apprehended from the bill. Ihe Commissionera would not be likely to give per- mission except good reason were shewn. Hon. Mr. Troop aaked how the checks and guards which had been spoken of would aftcct the principles of the bill in its oPf-at'O";. ^^ ,„ Hon Atty. Gen. said that all christian de- nominations would stand on perfect equahty ; but in places where one denomination prepon- dei-ateX justice required that they should have the laigest voice in the Board of Commission- ers; and therefore the Board would take care that lihe minority would not override the ma- jCity. If any danger could be pointed out as likely to arise from the biU, he would not hesi- tate to vote against it. Mr DiCKli enquired whether the Commis- siouorswere usuaUy chosen with reference to tlieir political views. , j „ „„ Hon. ATTY. Gen. replied that he had never made a Commissioner. ^ ♦!,„ wii Mr. Landers said that in l^^ county the bill would have a tendency to split up the sec ^°Mr. Campbell agaiTi spoke in support of the '"Mr. HOOPER said he believed the principle of the bill to be just and right. I* 7.«f^^Xeto^' quired in the various counties ot <-'npe K^^^V;'"- ^ Dr. Murray said that like some Y^o had preceded him, he hardly felt m a PO«\t'0° \.° f « at length into them. «^'l/«°^^"*^, "V to measure He had - vays been opposed to TeTstem of separate schools, but as the advo- Gates declared that that, principle wa= "^^^": ^olvedinthebiUhe would not go into that bnmch of the argument. In his founly theio y^a large preponderanceof one denomination, at its next session it was unnecessary to dis- cuss it at length in its present position. It was a deeply important question, both as regarded the large body from which it emanated, and the impoitont results which must flow from such a change as the bill contemplated. The House had already affirmed the principle that on every measure deeply affecting the interests of the • country, the people had a right to be consulted; and as he had not had an oppoi-tnnity ol con- Bultinghis constituents, he must, in consistency, vote against the bill. . , ., i .. . Mr PuRDY then moved that owing to the late period of the Session and the importance ot the subject the bill be defeiTcd to next^ession, and in the meantime be printed. v ^;„„„ Hon Mr. Flynn said that it these applications for d(;lky had been prompted by candor and sincerity he would have met them at the outset, but it was evident that there had been an inten- tion to force the advocates of the bill into a dis- advantageous position, and thus ensure itade- *Mr PuRDY said he merely asked for delay un- til the people could be consulted. 'Would the House deny so reasonable a request when issues so important were involved ? He believed that the bill would throw the control ol the education of the country largely in to the hands of the Dominion government imder the Umon Act. It becomes Uie duty of members, therefore, to act with caution. , , , > A call of the House was had, and the amend- ment, on being put, passed 15 to 12. The House adjourned. ■ Thursday, Sept. 17. House met at 3 o'clock. The bill to enable the Halifax Pohce Court to sentence Juvenile offenders to the Industrial Schoorpasse,!. Also, U.e -biU relating to the fommon of Iv. Ttmouth. Hon Mr. Troop submitted a report trom thfcommittee on Crown Lands. The report was received and adopted. Hon Mr Cochran submitted a report trom the committee on Trade and Manufactures. Mr. MORRISON said that he had presented the petition which formed the »"l>ject of the UH^v r*.port. It was from a pei-son whohad ulace'd a quantity of twine worth about ^iiu on bS^ the railway tmin, but h*dney«rre- «ive^ his goods, although he had paid the I 302' MBltES At^D PROdEEDn^Gi ' freight. It was a Yery hard case on the appli- cant, whose claim waa supported.by an abund- ance of testimony. Hon. Atty. Gen. said that if the railroad had been owned by a company the remedy of the applicant would have been clear and easy. Ajj this was not the case, and na the govern- ment could not be sued, the better plan was for him to apply to the authorities who now con- trol the rmlroad. Ihe report was received and adopted. '> Mr, YouKG asked the government what was to be done with the educational act. A mea- sure 0|i this subject liad been promised in the Governor's speech, and the constituencies would be anxious to know why some step had not been taken. Hon. Atty. iiEN. replied that it was the in- tentioa of the government, wheo the speech was prepared, to have brought forward a bill to amend the Act, with which a great deal of fault had been found. Upon giving their at- tention to the requisite amendments the gov- ernment had found that the more tliey amend- ed the law. the more it seemed to require amendment. As the whole mutter was very oompUcaied, and as changes of the most i-adi- cal kind were required, it was considered bet- ter not to make any extensive change until next session, when amendments of consequence would be proposed. The subject was one which it was very difficult to deal with, and as far as he was concerned, he was almost dis- posed to wish that the Act now in force had never been introduced. He did not think the people were prepared for direct taxation for any su,ch purjiose; the direct taxes necessary tor the ordinary cqunty purposes were as much as the countiy could bear. The House might expect, ^ proposition for important changes next yeai'. Mr, Landers gave notice that in conse- quence of the probable falling off in the reve- nue, ii the tfnion Act were not repealed be- fore next fiession, ho would introduce a bill to repeal so much of the Educational Act as ap- pertained to the oflice of Superintendent of Education, and to the special grants to Col- leges, Academies, Koriual, Model and Superior Schools, District Examiuei-s, and School In- spectora. The sixty thousand dollars saved in that way, ho would propose to appropriate, one half to the Copamon School Fund, and the other half to the Road and Bridge Service. Mr. YoUNO said that if he had known the intention of the government, he would have moved to repeal the present Act, and to revive the old one. He believed that education and religion should be left to the control of the people. In the district in which he lived, great complaints existed as to the operation of the law. Hon. Mjr. Tnoop reported several bills from the committee 90 ameudmeut of the laws. Mr. PuBDY, from the committee on Trade Relations with the United States, reported a resolution authorizing the govtrnment to send one or inoro Commissioners to the United States, to protect the interests of JNova Wcotia in any negotiations which may be entered into respecting the trade of the Colonies. The House then went into committee on bilis, and took up the bill to amend the act re- lating to jurisdiction of Jiisticea of thePetu;^ J in civil cases. Upon the clause to provide that the constable fees should be lodged with the Justice before he should be called on to serve a . summons or capias, a discussion arose. Thd clause was siipported by Hon. Mr. Fergusson, Mr. Landers, Hon'bls. Atty. General, and Mr. Troop, and was opposed by Mr. Kidaton, Mr. Purdy, and Dr. Brown. On a division the clause was struck out. The bill to amend the Education Act as fur as it relates to the city of HaUfai, was then taken up, its principal object being to give tha City Council power of appointing six members of the Board of School Commissionei's, and to provide t^iat the number of the members of tlie board should be increased by one. Mr. White asked why this bill was passed, when the underatanding was tliat nothing should be done with the School Act. H n. Mr. Fbbgusson said that no respeot ■Was paid to the requests of the country in refe- rence to tlie law, but the complaints of the city were readily heard. Hon. Pko. Skc'y said that the bill had been recommended by the Committee on Education, in place of one which had been thrown out. Hon. Atty. Genl. explained that the object of the bill was to give the citizens representa- tion on the Board of Commissioners. Hon. Speaker said he did not wonder at the opposition to the bill, when it was known that some membeps who were living under the sys- tem of sepai'iite schools in Halifax, had voted ' to deny that right to the country sections. Dr. Brown asked whether the Commission- ers were still to be paid as heretofore. He thought that this should not be the case when it was not allowed in the country. Mr. NoRTHUp said that that port of the law would not be altered by the bill. The citizens had once or twice refused to pay tlie school tax, in conseqnence of their being unrepresented ou the Board. Hon. Speaker said that the country mem- bers should wake up to the fact that the pay- ' ment of nearly all large sums of money, and the influence in connection witli ntirly ail pub-' he raattei-s centred in the city of Halifax. Mr. Dickie said that he had no objection to the City having the legislation which it needed, but the country was equally in need of reme- dial legislation. Hon. Mr. CocHRAN explained that the pow-. r of taxation which the Commissioners pos- sessed was formerly unlimited, — the bill would limit them to ^36,000, unless the Govei-nor and Council approved of the amount for a larger sum. The pay of the Commissioners did hot come out of the Provincial treasury, but out of their own funds. Hon. Speaker said that the fact th»t the countiy was bound hand and foot in Confede- ration was due to the city of Halifax ; it was that influence which had ruined the railroad by bringing it along a crooked roiite, and had' entailed nearly every debt upon the country. When the people of the country asked the mem • bei-s upon their return what had been done for them in reference to education, tiio answer must be " nothing," but we have improved the, law for the City of Halifax. The City enjoyed the advantages of Hon. Mr. Flynn's Education bill, which he would hare supported had ho OE THE . HOUSE . OP ASSEMBLY. i303 been on the floor, and yet •ome who had en- joyed it had voted againet extending the system to tha country. , ,. -, ♦„„* Hon Pkov. Skc. said that from the foutset the city Lad been governed hy a separate school act, the only change made was ns to the appointment of the Commiasionere. It gL d not be BuppoBcd that it was the duty oi the Education Committee to originate amend- mente to the law,-no petitions for changes were before them excepting those which they had reported on. The payment of Commis- sioners Tfras a matter entirely between the Comaiissioners and the citizens, Hon SPKAKEP said that the country was to some extent interested In the payment of the commissioners, the fund out of which contri- bution was made to all the counties was the Provincial treasury. . Mr fouNG took the same view and re- ferred to the refusal of the City to pay the railway money which it had promised to con- *"Mr*NOBTHUP said that the citizens only tflked what was granted to every other part • W the Country, the right to choose by whom they were assessed. , /. .. ♦i,„4. ♦v,- Mr Dickie refen-ed to the fact that the Government had not fulfiUed the promise in ttie speech of bringing forward amendments in *^i£prov. SEC. said that twelve petitions had come in agrinst any material change. He t^asvery doubtful about the propriety of re- Wing the act entirely, and was inchncd to Ewe credit to the government that passed it. Mr DICKIE said that the peopl« l»«f ^°°* petitioned because the goy^^'""^'' Ht Ci ^edto take the matter m hand. It it had Unknown that petitions were needed, the tnWft would have been flooded. The bin passed. The act to amend the law relating to mines and minerals was then taken S Up^ «^e clause allowmg the taxing ot a^eas a^ar as tl.e perfomiance of the requi- Kabor was concerned, some discussion oc- cSredupon a suggestion that the number ot arjS to which ^is provision should apply be "'hS?.' PKOV. SEC. proposed a committee to BuMi^de the grant for navigaUon securities. ffStoequently withdrew the motion upon f^bdngSrged that the sukUvision should be made by the government The House adjourned. Friday, Sept. 18, 1868. The House met at 11 o'clock. Ml NoRTHUP submitted a final report from ♦ho CoSttee on Public Accounts shewing umonK other things that the debc of the pro- vi.c"'' crediting all . possible "^;t« -.is P. fifi0 781 and shewing tlmt the cost oi ino or three veam the aetcrmiuati.-n ...m.a i„ prevail tlit every law should be broken. Tbe report wa* received and adopted. Mr. Kit>STON submitted report from the Committee appointed to enquire into over expenditure of road moneys in the county of Antigonish. The report recommend -d that the moneys so borrowed and expendea be not paid out of tl.e Treasury. , , „ Hon. Atty. Gen. thought that the Com- mittee had arrived at avei-y proper conclusion. The object of the expenditure had been purely electioneering. j ^ ,.^ The report was received and allowed ton* on the table. , . ^, t • i *■ The amendments proposed by the Legislative Council to the bill to enabln the members for Guysboro' to borrow money were taken up. They provided that the sum so bon-owed should be a first charge on the road money of the Countv for the year 1868 and 1869. Mr Kirk explained that the amendment de- feated the object of the bill,— it would comjjel the members to pay out of these road monies the debt of their predecessors. Their prcdece«- sorshadcommenced to build a bridge and the work had been so far advanced that it nnust either be completed or go to total ruin. ITie present membei-s had borrowed for the purpose of completing it $600 on their own notes, and desired the security of an act, but tliey could do without it, and he would rather see the bill thrown out than have the amendments agreed to. The country had been plunged into debt to make roads to the residences of private par- Dr MuRRVT approved of the stand taken by thehon. member. The members for Pieton had fonnd themselves in a strait also, owing to the road moneys having been squandered, and they might be met with the same obstructions. 'J'he House than went into Committe on bills and took up nn net to amend the act relating to Mines and Minerals. , , , . Mr Ross thought that a clause should be in- serted making the prospecting license to conti- nue for six months instead of three as at pres- ent He said that owing to the severity of the cUmate not a blow could be struck by prospec- ters who took out license during the printer months. , , _, _^ . The proposal was supported by Mr. KiOBton and bv Mr. Young, but was fcubsequently with- drawn to be made on the tliird reading of th« The bill then ' .assed embodying a clause abol- ishing the requirement f>f labor on prospecting licenses, another giving ion free claims to any person erecting a crusher of eight stamps ten iniles distant from any other crusher, and apo- thor providing that parties having water Coal Mining leases should have the right to tunnel through the adjoining land. Hon. Speaker, in reference to the last men- tioned clause, referred to the danger which might bo done to private owners of the soil, by parties travelling to reach their Mines. Hon Atty. Gbnl. answered that the opera- tion of the act would be carefully guarded, and wun not inconsistent witli all the gi-antsot free- liolds in the Province. The bill in reference to the Poor's AsyluJ and Hospital also passed. The Committee, adjourned. The House tidjoumod. 304 DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS IS^. AXternoon Beailon. Th« HouM roBumed at three o'clock. Mr. Ross moved that the bill in referonc* to Minee ana Minerala be rc-committed for the purpose of making the prospecting licenues i-un for tax months. Hon. Mr. Rcbeetson said that such a change TTOuld cut oflF about one half of the revenue de- rived from the issue of these licenses, which was about $2,700 per quarter. It would re- lieve also a large class of persona who took out the license on speculation. Mr. Campbell thought that the present law should be adhered to if a diminution of the re- venue would be the result of a change. Mr. MoERisoN said that as the licenses were renewed on payment of half the original charge the loss to tlie revenue would amount to one third. ' Mr. Ross remarked that while gold mining was io restricted, a party taking out a right of search for coal could have an extent of five miles to search over, and his license continued for a year. Mr. KiDSTON said that his colleague was well qualified to speak on such matters, having had very large experience. Eveiy facility should be afforded to those engf {ed in devel- oping the resources of the country. Not more than three months of the year wero adapted for prospecting. Mr. White said that he would support the present law as no complaint of iU working had been made and no petitions had been sen*' in. Mr. Ross replied that no petitions had come in for any of the several alterations which the bill would effect. The more Uberal tlic law •was made the more encouragement would bo ' given to actual labor. Hon. Prov. Sec. said that it was hardly the time to reduce the revenue when the eatimatea had been voted and a deficit anti- cipated. Mr. Ross thought that the proposed altera- tion might at any rate be made to apply to un- proclaimed gold districte. Mr. KiDSTON thought that the revenue would not be diminished by the alteration. Parties would then take out licenses who would not do so otherwise. The motion was lost, six voting for and eighteen against it. Mr. Young moved that the parties holding leases and prospecting licenses, be allowed one day after their expiration on which to renew them. lie said that confusion ofUsn arose be- tween three or four applicants coming at the one time to the office. Mr. KiKK seconded and supported the mo- tion. Hon. Mr. Roubktson said that if it wore desirable to prevent jjarties liolding large blocks of areas, the motion sliould not bo agi-eed to. It would, however, save the de partment tiouble. In cases i)f simultiineouH applicatiou the preference was always given to the former holder wlien he had expended mo- ney on hiE properly, and the holder could at any time secure himself by taking out a lonse. Dr. Murray thought that the law would not be improved by adding the clause— it ■would only encourage specnlntors. Mr. Whit* suggested that the clause be made applicable to both coal and gold li- censes. Mr. Ross supported the clause. He said it was the more necessary iii consequen-e of the limitation of the license to three months. Mr. Kirk said that it was unfair that the former holder should not have an hour's preference over a stranger. It was more costly to take out a lease ttian a license. The holder of a coal license had ten day's grace, Hon. Mr. Cochran approved of the motion. He knew of three investigations now going on in which disputes had aiisen between simulta- neous appUcants. Hon. Mr. Robertson said that in the case of coal licenses the ten day's grace are given because the forfeiture was by operation of law, and notice had been given to th« holders. Mr. KiDSTON advocated the addition of the clause. The interest of the public in such matters should be protected as well as the interests of the treasury. The motion to add the clase passed. The Legislative Council announced that they had passed a bill to amend the act to regu- late the Election of Members to serve in General Assembly. The oiU provided that parties who had received a share of the relief lately distributed should not be thereby dis- franchised. Hon. Speaker said < hat the bill had been be- fore the House already, and had been thrown out on the recommendation of the Committee on amendment of the laws. It would be con trary to rule to allow a bill thus to be in- troduced a second time. Hon. Attt. Genl. said that the bill was very impoi-tant, and one that should be passed. Hon. Prov. Sec. also urged that the bUl bo taken up. Mr. Morrison said that the recommendation to ]ioslpone the bill by the Committee must have been made under mistake. Mr. Desbrisay concurred in this view and supported the bill. Sir. NORTHUP regretted that the bill had been thrown out, as it would afl'ect some of his con- stituents. Mr. Campbell said that an election would shortly come off in Inverness, — he would be soiTy to see any of the electors disfranchised, in consequence of their having received aid, al- though the loss of the bill would be to the ad- vantage of the repeal party. Hon. Mr. Cochran said that if any of the eloctoi's in that county wero disfranchised, that would bo attributed as the reason why the con- federate candidate was not returned. Mr. Chambers said that he desired the bill to i)ass although its operation would principally benefit the confederates. Mr. KiDSTON strongly bupportt^d the bill. — The opponents of repeal would make capitiil out of its rejection. Hon. Prov. Sec. said that the Attorney (ieneral had ohalleiigcti tlio Btilish Govern- ment to appeal to the jjcoplo of Nova Scotia on the question of Confederation, — the Hotwe should therefore be ready to test the clauso b« I gold li- He said pnaequen"* I to thre« nfair that have an It was 1 a license, ten day's he motion. V going on in sitnulta- n the case are given leration of Bn to th« don of the ic in snch irell aa the d that they ct to rega- serve in jvided that f the relief Jiereby dis- lad been be- cen thrown Conimitte© mid be con 8 to be in- ill was very passed. the bUl be nmendation « must have lis view and bill had been e of his con- ction would je would bo ranchised, in I'ed aid, al- bo to the ad- Fany of the ichised, that ihy the con- I rod the bill d principally d the bill.— [lake capital le Attorney i.ih Govern- S"ovft Scotia — the Hotwe o test the OP THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 305 question fairly in case that proposal was ac- these, population should afford some guidance, cepted. '"^^ ^^ would give a few statistics of the popula- HoD. Mr. Fltnn said that it was the duty tion on the gulf shore, that would be interested of the House to pass the bill which affected the in having the road located by Folly lake, interests of every county. g^ig^ q^^ Hon. Speakkr said that the precedent Population. Families. Mills. Mills. would be a very br,d one; but in deference to pup;waah 3165 493 4 18 the unanimous wish of the House he would Wallace 2500 2500 5 6 take the first reading of the bill. Wentworth 696 116 2 9 The bill was read a first time. New Annan 1231 189 3 17 Mr. DICKIB submitted a report from Smagouche:!!^ '^ 2 ll Committee on the petition of overseers ot the = _ _ poor, East River, Pictou. Tou-U 10,145 1585 17 69 Hon. Pko. Sec. moved an address to the , .. , • ■, • * » Lieutenant Governor, requesting him to trans- The population having aii adverse interest mit the resolutions in reference to repeal re- would be that ot Lower Londondeny and Eco- oently passed. °°™y' ^^ ^^"^ xslands, which stood as lol- The address was adopted. - ^^^^ • „ i„n„„ t?„^ih.. Dr. Brown presented a petition from W.J. ^''P^^t^^^- ^^^^i^"- ruller,forcompensationforsupportofTransient tS^^°tT&Mand«: :?69? Ss Paupers. __ Mr. Dickie asked leave to withdraw the j;., 658 resolution which he had tnoved to place ^50,- Grist Milis, 8 ; Saw Mills, 16. 000 at the disposal of the government for secret , ., ,. , sei-vice money, and to substitute in its place a Inasmuch as the hnes were iiearly common resolution authorising the government, in case iroin Truro to Folly nver, .t followed that by of an unforeeen necessity arising, to borrow the FoUy lake route the mhabitante of Great that sum. and pledging the House to provide ViUage would liave easy access to their depots for its navment Avilhin ten miles, while the interests oi a popu- Mr TowNSEND opposed the vote. The lation of 10,000 would oe subserved by the loca- House had hitherto done its business above tion of the road crossing the mountain via Folly board. Secret Service money was not required lake. Mr. I,ivesy had ot course a right to pro- in Nova Scotia ^'^^^ *^° interests, of his own company, but it Mr. Morrison said that the voting of secret was clear that they had no information before s. vice money wa common in the Canadian them as to the merits ot the FoUy Lake route, 1 >ffislature asia contradistinction to the Iron Mines route. Mr KiDSTON said that the Dominion go- He would therefore ask if it was not the duty vemment had been votiT.g $15,000 for secret of the House to see that the mterests of a large sei-vice money. The .umsc should place in body of the people were not jeopardized by a the hands of the government the means to review ol bne side of the case. It had been an- subvert the plots laid for the destruction of the nounced by telegram that tht Domimon Go- countrv's independence. The motion met his vemment had been hearing paiHesm the inter- approbation fully, more especially as the House est ot the Acadia Iron Mining Company on coLld control the government in the matter by this question and it was therefore only tair to requiring an account of the expenditure. '^^^T'^J^"'. ^'l- }:'''''%^^'^ "^?*'''^I ""^ "^f Hon Speaker said that the vote differed ot tlie Minule o Councd in urging the views of froma vot« for secret sei-vice money, inas- tlie company whom he represented. He (Mr much as the term "secret service" implied Purdy) telt it to 1 e his duty to throw as much aat no account of the expenditure need be light upon the matter as possible, and to ask rendered which was not the case with a reso- the House to do what should seem right and \ 7^^ i;b„ ti„a j«st. There was no difference of opinion in luuon ime inis. ^^^^ County of CuniL?rlund as to the matter,— INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY ROUTE. the northern part of the population could reach Mr PuRDT asked the government to state the depot on their own side of the mountain if what'infonnHtion they had based their Minute the road went by Folly Lake whereas the of Council upon in reference to tlie voutc of the mountain would have to be chaibed if the loca- lutercolonial Ri'ilway. tion were different. It was well known that Hon Prov Sec replied that the matter had Major Robinson recommended the Folly Lake been pressed upon the attention of the govern route as affording the lowest grades. The tact ment bv Mr Livesy, who laid several miips and that that line afforded the best level was ad- other papers befcre the Council. ^ ^ initted on all sides. The argument m favor of Mr Purdy said that as the location of the the Iron Mines route rested mainly on the lact road iai-ffolv aftetfted the interests of his county, that it would be ath ■■ ntageous to connect the he might be permitted to explain the tacts.- iron mines otLond. .ry with the coal mines The Une between Truro and New Brunswick oi Spring Hril. He could state, however, that was common for some few miles, but the pro- tlie Folly Lake route travei'sed the iron section noTed routes diverged near the Londonderry and tapped the Spring Hdl mines also, io Mines From the Spring Hill coal Holds to accomniodate the inm nuiics the interests ot Arnlu-'ist the lines were eommou. The dis- the large population lying on the north must nnte was'between the advocates of the Folly be sacrificed. It might be said that the Com- nke route and the advocates of a route pa^=ing pnny lu-.ving spent a krge sum oi money m thvouLdi the Iron Mines. In tlie locaUon ot their works, were entul.;d to consideration ; iMibhc railways th(- general interests of the but it should be remembered that the proper- eountiy should be consulted, and in considering lies of a population of 10,000 were more vain- 39 ms DEBATES AND PROCEEDINGS able than the works of the Company. If the value of propei'ty was to be the test, the Folly Lake route should still have the preference. It had also been taken for granted that if the road ran thi-ough the iron works, large manu- fiustories would grow up and benefit the read by their traflic, but where wao the guai-antee for this ? Was it not equally possible that the Company would take advantage of tlie loca- tion of the route through their property to sell their shares at an advanced rate? There being no guarantee of that kind, the interests of the wliole country should be looked to, and the comparative advantages of the routes care- fully examined. As the Folly Lake route ac- commodated a much larger area of country, of splendid farming land, capable of improve ment, a larger population and more traflic, and was more central, he felt bound to press its claims upon the House. There was an- other view that might be taken of the matter. At present the railway touches the gulf at Pi ton and Shediac at points over 100 miles apart. The thriviri villages of Pngwash, Wallace and Tatamagouthe are nearly midway between, and are situated upon good harbor3, have each got excellent stone quarries, and are sur- rounded by farming lands which would be rapidly improved, and trade increased were good railway facihties secured. There can be no doubt that from the natural mcrease of trade and population, steam com- munication from one of those ports across the gulf to Charlottetown will soon become a ne- cessity. It is only about twenty-five miles from the entrance to Charlottetown harbor, across the gulf to Wallace harbor, and as the Folly Lake route of railway would bring the depot within about twelve miles of Wallace, I have no doubt that pivssengere to and from Charlottetown would frequently prefer cross- ing the gulf by the short route rather than steaming up from Picton or goiug to Sliediac, especially in the early spring, or during the autumn months. That was a fact well worthy of consideration. If the Folly Lake route did any injustice to any body of the people he would abandon the argument. He would just add a word as to the position taken wlien the road was under contract bul'ore; the Inter- national Contract Company had agreed to build the road on a route located l)y the gov- ernment, but subsequently wrote a letter to Dr. Tnpper stating that they would only build the road through the mines, and the reply was, that as the conditions had not been complied ■with, the contract should be considered nuU and "oid. Another company then purchased the contract, and the Folly Lake route was then decided on. It had, th(!reibre, very strong claims for support. The hon. member tlien concluded liis siieoch by moving that it wns the opinion of the House that the Folly Lake route Jshould be adopted, ^but that no ehoice should bo made without careful exami- nation. Hon. Attt. Gen. said that the government ■would not oppose the resolution. The road ■would probably be located by the niUhorilios having clisirgt; of tlit; railway uiidor the apjiro- val of the British government, without refer- ence to load opinion. The government had cons'idered upon the information given by Mr. Livesy before Athena, that the two lines being nearly equal, the preference should be given to that which brought the two great works of Londonderry and Spring Hill into juxtaposi- tion. The resolution contained no contradic- tion of the Minute of Council. The resolution passed. The House idjoiu'ned. Saturdat, Sept. 19, 18«8. The House met at 11 o'clock. TTie bi'J to amend the Act relating to the election of members to serve in General As- sembly passed. Hon. Mr. Fergusson stated that the com- mittee on Mines and Minerals would not be eble to report, as the members of the commit- tee could not be got together. Dr. Murray stated that the committee on petition of A. F. Chui-ch, could not report ow- ing to the absence of the chaii-man, ^vho had the papers in his possession. Mr. Young said it was of great importance that the committee on Mines and Minerals should report. One very important matter was before them connected with the conduct of an oflicial. Mr. Kirk said, that as one of the members of the committee he had attended to hw du- ties. There was no evidence to justify the language used by Mr. Young in reference to one of the clerks. Mr. PuRDY moved the adoption of the reso- lution reported up in reference to trade with the United States. The resolution passed. COMMITTEE ON STATE OF PROVINCE. The House then went into committee on the General State of the Province. Mr. Landers in the chair. Hon. Pro. Sec'y laid on the table, for infor- mation of members, a statement from the Bank of Nova Scotia shewing the indebted- ness of the several counties to that bank for advances for the road service to be as follows: Colchester, ^'2659 ; Guysborough, !^2800 ; Antigonish, #-1800 ; Picton, #'a234 ; Vic- toria, $4312 ; Digby, $1060 ; Cumberland, $1507. Hon. Speaker said that not having had, un- til then, an o])portunity of saying anything on the subject of Confederation, he felt it became his duty, after listening to all the able speeches which iiad been delivered, to address the people whom ho represented on tliat question. He would do so very briefly, because to travel oyer tlie ground so ably occupied, would be only tire- some to the House at-a period of the Ses.sion when meiubers were fully in possession of a knowledgi! of the trocitics which had been connnittc^d on the counti-y by Confederation. He would not enter into a consideration of the strange doctrine which had proceeded from the British goveriun(>ut, nor criticise the mythical opinion given by Sir Roundel Palmer, because those matters could be more appropriately dealt with by members of the legal profession. He must say, however, " that it was a very cramp- ed piece of penmanslup," What that opinion styled "law, properly so called," ho consider- ed law, improperly so called. Although he would not deal directly with those subjects, be- cause they were in abler handa thaa his, he OF THE HOUSE OP ASSEMBLY. 30T je given to ; works of juxtuposi- contradic- 19, 18«8. ing to the reneral Aa- t the com- ild not b© ae commit- nmittee on report ow- , ^vho had iojportance ;l Minerals ant matter le conduct e members d to hi"j du- justit'y the 31'erence to of the reso- I trade with )VINCB. ittee on the Ir. Landers e, for infor- t from the e iiidebted- lat bank for ) as follows: ;h, ^2800 ; 1234 ; Vic- !nmberland, ing had, un- aiiything on ; it became ble speeches B the people lestion. He ) travel over be only tire- the Seasion ssession of a h hud been infudumtion. •ntion of the led from the ho mythical ler, because 31'iately dealt fession. He very cramp- hat opinion ho consider- \.Ithough he subjects, be- thaabis, he would refer to matters deeply affecting the public opinion of the country, and upon which the people were expi-essing their views every daj-. It was well kiii.'vn what the feelings of the people relative to Confederation were. The people telt an honest in cnfition, tliat kind of indigriation which animated a peonle undcr- stancUng their privileges, and whose blood was roused when these privileges were invaded. In going through the country it would be a great mistake to suppose tliat the man in a plain coat did not understand the condition of the Pro- vince ; the humblest individual knew diat, trora being a happy, contented and prosperous people. Nova Scotians had been brought, by the Confederation Act, into a condition in which every energy was damped and every enteq-irise impeded. The country had heard a vast num- ber of argiunoits in favor of the change which had been brought about ; it had been said that " Confederation would strengtlien the hand of the Government on this side of the Atlantic, by making the people ready to defend their ter- ritory. Would any man in his senses say the same feelings existed in the bosoms of Nova Scotians as existed three yeai-s ago ? Would the people rush with the same alacrity to the defence of tU« country that they would have done a few yeai-s ago ? If not, and he believed they would not and could not, away went the argument about strengthening the hands of the Government to support British Institutions. Notwithstanding this, a part of the press con- tinued boldly to dedare that all who had i-anked themselves against Confedci-ation were rebels and Fenians. He fancied that if the Crown were attacked, if any attempt was to be made to sever the connection between Nova Scotia and Great Britain against the will of the Colo- ny, many of tlioso who had been thus accused would be found in the fore front of the struggle, while their accusers would be found fraterni- zing with the rabbits under the spruce bushes. Loyalty with him was not a mere sentiment, it was a passion. Early educated to believe tliat his life was to be given whenever necessary in defence of the British flag, he was not to be told by a parcel of sculpoiis lianging about the sessions boards and other public places ol tho country, looking for the garbage and the loot^ the crows' share of the battle, tliat lie was a rebel. Four yeara ago Nova Scotia was in a happy and jirosperous conrlition, and althongli not backed by a large country she had contin- ued to progress more rapidly for tweuty-hve years than any other country in the world ot the same population. A comparison between her condition forty yeai-s ago and the time (.;onfederation was declared, no man was will- ing to say whether he was AviUing to light for tlio defence of tho country or not. Tins was owing partly to the Contederation act and partly to tho unfortunate gov ernment by which the country had been ruled up to the time of the change. Unfortunate that government was, not as regards tho men who composed it, because they are going about low with bits ot Dutch mud sticking to them, and the C. B.s attached to their names, decorations winch were scorned by every honest man as a reward whicli tho-s« ^'^o^^ had obtained lor selling the soil on which they were born, but unJortunate as regards the country which they ruUid. They looked on them as they looked on the courtesan passing along the street decorated with jewels and chains which were tokens of the sale of her virtue. He would refer to one branch ofthepubUcsernce as a refutation of the statement that wc were better and more indeiiendent than before Confederation. Could any man in any one county find fault with a post master for opening his letter or actmg otherwise iminoperly ? No, these officers could do just as they please, because the tribu- nal which must be appealed to for redress was 800 miles away. By the time a complainai got there with his witnesses, ho would find that re- dress was impossible to be obtained in that vast establishment, vast for this countiy, which had been set up at Ottawa. Could Nova Scotians regulate any of the affairs of the Post Oiflee Uepartmeni? Canada had the sole control and increased the privileges of our people wou- ' derfully by requiring that the newspapers should be stamped. Nova Scotians could not make a post ride or a way office now in their own country. These remarks he made hi order that they might reach the ears of that class who did not dare to argue out the question, but in the press continued to ask vague and unim portant questions as " what next ?" " what then ?" Fine expressions these were for one class of the people to be applying to their fel- low countrymen I Were they calculated to in- crease the respect and love of the people for the institutions which had been forced on them ? He never heard it said that Nova Scotia was " bound hand and foot" without feeling a ilush come to his face, and without teeling indigna- tion and sorrow, that any one could be found base enough to glory in ^e shame and humiliation of his country. He would now refer to another service in illustra- tion of his remarks. What had been done with the lighthouses which had been erected on every part of the coast to the credit of tho country? The control of them had been taken 'completely away, formerly a com- plaint was never heard of alight being out at night, but now complaint after complaint was made, and wliat had those who complained to bo told ? " We can do nothing for you, you must make complaint at Ottawa: you may get the light lit wlien you get a match at, Ottawa, but we can give you