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Counsel for the Respondfint : SIR RICHARD WEBSTER, Q.C, M.P.. and MR. CARSON. M. P. Argument of Mr. Blake for the Appellant This Argument is printed as a liirilier slisjiu contiihutioii t.itlie discussion on the Interpretation ol the Constitutional Act ^ TilRONTd : Thk IIkvam- I'ui.ss, 2.) Hay Stki-.i EXTRACTS R. S. O., Chapter 124 An Act respectii\Q^ Assignments and Preferences by Insolvent Persons I. In case any person, bcinR at the time in insolvtnt cir- cumstances, or unable to pay his dehts in full, or knowing himself lo be on the eve of insohenty, voluntarily or by collusion with a creditor or creditors gives a confession of judgment, ii>i;>io-'it actionem, or warrant of attorney to confess jiultiment with intent, in giving such confession, i'i\i^>tf^'ii acfroitt'/r, or warrant of attorney, to confess judgment to defeat or delay liis cretlitors wholly or in part or with intent thereby to give one or more of the creditors of any such person a preference over his other creditors, or over any one or more of such creditors, every such confession, cogncK'it aciioni'ni, or warrant of attorney to confess judgment shall be deemed and taken to be null and void as against the creditors of the party giving the same, and shall be invalid and ineffectual to support any judgment or writ of execution. 2. Every gift, conveyance, assignment, or transfer, delivery over or payment of goods, cliatlels, or efTects, or of bills, bonds, notes, securities, or of shares, dividentls, preniiinns, or bonus in any bank, company, or corporation, or of any other projierty, real or personal, made by a person at a time when he is in insolvent circumstances, or is unable to pay his debts in full, or knows that he is on the eve of insolvency, with intent to defeat, delay, or prejudice his creditors, or to give to any one or more of them a preference over his other creditors, or over any one or more of them, or which has such elTect, shall, a- against them, be utterly void. 3. (i) Nothing in the preceding ^ection shall apply to any assignment made to the sherilT of ihe county in which the debtor resides or cariies on business, or to another assignee resident within the Province of Ontario, with the consent of the creditors as hereinafter provided, for the purpose of paying ratably and proportionately, and without preference or pri- ority, .all the creditors of the debtor their just debts; nor to any bona Jiiic sale or payment made in the ordinary course of trade or calling to innocent purchasers or partie'^ ; nor to any payment of money to a creditor, nor to any hoiia fide gift, conveyance, assignment, transfer, or delivery over of any goods, securities, or property of any kind, as above mentioned, which is made in consideration of any present .actual bona fiiie payment in money, or by w.ay of security for any present actual bona JiJe advance of money, or which is made in consideration of any present actual bona fuie sale or delivery of goods or other property ; provided that the money paid, or the goods or other pioperty sold or delivered, bear a fair and rea.sonable relative value to the consideration thereof. (2) Kvery assignment for the general lienefit of creditors, which is not void under section 2 of this .Act, but is not made 10 the sherilT, nor to any other person with the prescribed consent of creditors, -liall be void as against a sub>e(|uent assignment which is in conformity with this Act, and shall be subject in oilier respects to the provisions of this .Act mitil and unlessa subsequent assignment is executed in accordance with this Act. ■ * • (5) The debtor may in the first pl.ace, with the consent of a majority of his creditors having claims of $100 and upwards, computed according to the provisions of section 19, make a general assignment for the benefit cf his creditors to smn-t person othei than the sherilT, and residing in this province. 4. Form of assignment for general benefit of credituis. 5. How claims are to rank. 6. Appointment of assignee. (2) Estate to vest in as-.ignee. 7. Rights of assignee. 8. Recovery of proceeds where properly sold. 9. An as Vnme It for the general benefit of creditors under this Act shall t.ike precedence of ali judgments and nf all executions not completely executed by payment, subject to the lien, if any, of an execution creditor for his costs where there is but one execution in the sherifT's hands, or to the lien, if any, of the creditor for his costs who has the first execution in the sherifT's hands. 10. Amendment of assignment by court. 11. Remuneration of assignee. 12. Notice of assignment 10 be published. (2) Assignment to be registered. 13. I*enalty for neglecting publication. (4) Liability of sherilT. 14. Compelling publication and registration. 15. Assignment not invalidated by omission to publish, etc. 16. Assignee to call meeting of creditors. 17. Meeting of creditors by request of majority thereof. (2) Judge to give directions in case creditors do not attend. 18. Voting at meeting. 19. Scale of votes. 20. Proof of claim. 21. Accounts to be prepared by assignee. 22. Notice of dividend sheet. 23. Set ofT. 24. Affidavits, The Ontario Insolvency Cas ARGUMENT BY MR. BLAKE FOR THE APPELLANT. Mk. Hi.AKK ; I nppcar, my Lords, for the .ippel- lant with my k.iir.i-d friends, Mr. Ilaidaiie .ind Mr. Hray. The .ippeal is (in a ease referred to the ("ourt of Appeal of (Ontario under a recent Statute whicli comes now, for the first time, before the Court ; and i may therefore, perhaps, Ix.'gin hy stating that Statute. It provides for a reference to the High Court or a Divisional Court thereof or to the Court of Appeal by the I.ieulenant-( lovernor in Council of any matter which he thinks lit to refer ; anil the Court is thert upon to iiear and consider the same and certify its opinion with reasons. Then, " In c.1^c the m.-xtler rel.ites to tiieconstitmion.Tl \aliuity of.tny iV:t which ha^ heretofore heen or sh.-ill hereafter be p.issed by the I.eKi..lriture of ttiis Prtn-ince, or of some provision in any snch Act, the Altorney-t Jeneral of Canada shall lie notified of the iie;iring, in oriier to be lieartl, if he sees tit." Then, the opinion of the Court is to be deemed a judgment of the Court, and an appeal shall lie therf ' 111 as in the case of a judgment in an .action. Then. " In case of the matter being appealetl from the Hijih Court, or a I>i\-ision;il Court therM:*'. tu the Court of Appeal, sections 2, ?. 4, 5, and 6 siiall apply m like manner as if ttie original refer- ence had lieen to tiie Court of Appeal. An appeal to Her \I.ajesty in Her Privy Council, from a jndgment of atiy Court ou a reference under this .-Vet, shall not be subject to the restrictions contained in the Revised Statute of this Province." My Lords, the case came before the Court of .Appe.il for Ontario, in which there were sitting four Judges of that Court. TheChief justice of the (Jourt was of opinion against the constitutional validity of the provision submitted for consiileration. TiiK LoKi) Cham I'.i.i.nK : Was it whether an Ontario .Act was ii/tm 7uebec, as to traders only. .So far as I reinend)er, any legislation that has taken place in any part of the Dominion on the sul) ject of Hankruptcy and Insolvency has taken the title of " Insolvency." We have not taken the title of " Hankruptcy " in modern years. Thus, there was no Insolvency law affecting non-traders in (^Hiebec at Confederation. There was an Insolvency law affect- ing traders in tjuebec, and affecting all debtors in Ontario. LoKli Waison : I suppose the same law is appli- cable to .solvent as to insolvent persons. Wh'.n you say no Insolvency law, you mean the law of the land applied e(pially to solvent as to insolvent persons. Mr. Hi.akk: Ves. There was no special law direci.'d to the case of Insolvency. In the other two I'rovincps which were conjoined under the < ' infedera- tion Act, Nova Scotia and New iirunsvvick, iheiewas no Insolvent or Hankrupt law. This being the con- dition at Confederation, in 1S69 the Don- lion Parliament passed an Insolvency law which had ap- plication to traders only. In 1S75 it was repealed, and a new Insolvency law pa^.sed, which also had ap- plication to traders only. In iSSo, after a general election, that Insolvency law was rejiealed by a great majority of the I louse, and there has never since been any attempt to (lass any fresh law. Sir KniiAur) W'khstf.r : There were two small amendments in between. Mr. Hi.akk : Ves, amendments which I wasinstiu- niental in jiassing, with the view of keeping the law on the .Statute Hook, if ])ossible ; but since iSSo tiiere has been no Insolvency law whatever, nothing at all in the nature of Hankruptcy or Insolvency legislation in the Dominion I'arliament ; ant not all the details of this long .Act, but the provisions against fraud and preference. LoRii Wa isON : I suppose specially enacted in the Statutes of Ontirio, Consolidated. Mr. Hi akk : N'es ; only with a very considerable additional amount of ancillary provision. Lord Waison : Assuming that the Dominion Parliament alone could deal with the matter, wmild that constitute an invasion of their rights ? Mr. Hi.akk : To apply the proverb, il would be like 1 chip in jxirridge — it wnukl do neither good nor harm. If the .\ct was within the exclusive province of the Dominion I'arliament, the I'rovincial Legisla- ture coidi' not repeal, or amend, or re-enact it. TiiK Lord Ciiamki.i.or : The old .Act of US5S had been repealed by the Dominion Parliament. Mr. Hi.akk ; Not the .Act of 1S5S. That has never been touched ; and I draw an argument from that. .An Insolvency Act was passed by the old I'arliament of the Province of Canada in 1S64. Hut it did not touch the .\ct of 1S5.S. The Dotviinion I'arliament, in effect, repealed that Insolvency .Ad of 1S64, but ihey did not try to touch the .Act of 1S5S. They jiassed Hankruptcy and Insolvency .Acts twice. Hut they did not touch the Ad of 1S5S. l-'rom all this I argue that the subject of the .\cl of 1.H5S is admitted to be comprised, not within Hankiuptcy and Insolveiii'v, but within " Property and Civil l t'\i)ressea!oat ijuanipiioat. Then, thirdlv, the true nature and characteristics of the legislation in the particular instance under discussion must always he determined, in order to ascertain the class of subject to which it really belongs ; in other words, we must ascertain what is the primary matter dealt with. This is tl-e proposition laid down in Riiisell \. 'I'ke Queen ^ 7 .\pp. Cas., page 829. Then, fourthly, a restate ment at a comparatively late period of a wise rule of construction which your Lordships had occasion very early to lay down, and upon which you have always acted, is made in an accentuated form in 'I Iw Ban/: of Toronto v. l.ambe, 12 App. Cas., page 575, where the question was of legislative competence under sec- tion 02. To generalize the propositions which the judgment in that case applied to the particular case in hand, the (piestions to be tried are, first, does the subject fall within any, an;sent(|uestion. Next, I ven- ture to lay down another proposition, as established by authorities which I will quote to your Lordships at greater length, because, oddly e.iough, they do not merely touch the general principle, but also deal with thd particular subject -matter now in hand. .My proposi- tion is that, even though the Dominion I'arliament might by legislation passed under one or other of the heads in section 91 appropriate some particular i'rovincial field otherwise covered by secti(ui 92 so as to exclude the I'rovince from its fuither occujiation. yet it by no means follows that, in the al)sence of such Dominion legislation, the I'rovincial field isto be takenaslimited by 'die possible range of unexercised power by the Dominion I'arliament. Theconlraryhas, infaet, been held. I believe that such reconciliation as was effected of the dil'ferent decisions in the case of the Temperance Act was reached iqion this very basis ; and I refer to /7o,/i;e v. /'//(• Queen, which I have already cited ; though I do not deal at large with that matter, my learned friend, Mr ILaldane, who is very familiar with it from having actually partici- pated in most of these cases, having undertaken to expound that part of the argument. Till'; LoiU) CuANCKl.l.dK : Was //odi;e v. Tiie Queen the Temperance case ? Mk. HlAKi; : ^■es ; and Russell v. Ihe Queen. Hut I will refer your Lordshijis to the other cases which to my mind establish the same proposition, cases which deal with this very subhead of Hankru|)tcy and Insolveticj ; and, first of all, I will cite the case whiidi has been already (pioted by one of your Lordships of /.' L'nion St. Jactiues de Montreal V. lielisle, Law Reports, I'livy Council, page 31. Till'; LoKli CllAMKi.i.oR ; There is one of those Temperance rases which I argued, and I think there was no judgment delivered, was there' Their Lord- ships reported their ailvice without reasons !\Ir. Hl.AKlc : That was a sjiecial reference, in which the advice was reported without reasons. There were three altoge'her, including the case to which your Lordship refers ; but I may briefly state one pr"posiliiin which my learned friend has under- taken 10 deduce, namely, that the circumstance of action by the Dominion within its potential sphere does vitally affect the situation. Lord Watson : .Ml this seems 10 me to resolve itself into this propositicm, that in order to give exclu- sive legislative power to \hf Dominion t iovernment matters with which the I'rovincial legislation (). I think the more it is examined, the more it will be seen to he absolutely impossible to constfie ihe H.N A. Act satisfactory')', or indeed without plunt'ing inlodifliculties the extent of which oi:" cannot estimate, on any other principle than that. LoRi) Wai SON ; Sir Montague .Smith, I think, in the cast; of Ciishiii!; v. /ht/'iiy, made the observation upon that clause as to I{ankrupt:y and Insolvency that it would be impossible to take that step and establish a proper scheme without doing something as to civil rights. Mk. Hi.akic : In the absence of a Dominion scheme there is a valid I'rovincial title, which may be cpialilied when a l)o;ninion scheme is brought into ex- istence. In the case of I ' Union St./ai('//.i/i, which is reported in 6 I'.C, page 31, there is , (with res|)ecl, it may be saimpo- siiion, which the other two had declined. The benefits amounted to a dollar and a half a week, or seventy- three dollars a year. Two of the widows declined to accept two hundred dollars cash in full settlement for a life annjity of .seventy-three dollars a year which had been accepted by the others ; and the Legislature, by an Act, the preamble of which de- clared that the Society could not without ruin con- tinue to pay the dollar and a half a week, forced on the reluctant widows the acceptance of the two hun- dred dollars, with a saving clause that, if at any time the llnances of the Society recovered so that it had ten thousand dollars to the good, then the widows shoidd be entitled to claim a restoration of their former position. That was held by this Court to iie an Act to prevent the Society from going into insolv- ency rather than a special Insolvency law. True, the .\ct did prevent the Society from going into in- solvency ; but only by forcing its creditors to accept a composition of their demands. Then in deciding that which it was necessary for the purposes of the case to tind, even under or in connection with that favorable interpretation, namely the meaning of " Hankruptcy and insolvency " under section 91, the phrases used are these : " Then; is no indication in any instance " — that is to say, in any instance under section 91 — '* of anything being content- filated, except wliat inny be properly described as general legis- ation, siicli legislation as is well expressed by Mr. Justice Caron v.ben he speaks of the general laws goMTTiing h'aillile Hank- ruptcy and Insolvency, all which are will-kiiown legal ternis expressing systems of legislation with v.nich the subjects of this country, and probably of most otb-r civili/ed countries, are perfectly familiar. I he words describe in their known legal sense provisions made by law for the administrati'm of the estates of persons who may become Bankrupt or Insolvent .nccording 10 rules and definitions prescribed by law, including, "■■'■ourse, the conditions in which that law is to be brought into opc.ation, die manner in which it is to be brought into opera- tion, and the i>lTect of its operation. Well, no such genera law, coveri'ig this particular association, is alleged ever to have been p.tssed by the Uominioii. The hypothesis was .sug- gested in argument by Mr. Benjamin, who certainly argued this case with his usual ingenuity and force, of a law having been pre\'iously passed by the Dominion Legislature to the effect that any .association of this particular kind throughout the Ilominion, on certain specified conditions assumed to be exactly those which appear upon the face of the statute, should thereupon, i/>so lacto, fail under the legal .administration in Bankrnplcy or Insolvency, Their Lordships are by no means prepared to say that if any such law as that had been passed by the Dominion Legislature, it would have been beyond their competency, nor that, if it had been so passed, it would have been within the competency of the Provincial Legislature, afterwards, to take a particular association out of the scope of a general law of that kind, so competently passed by the authority which had power to deal with Bankruptcy and Insolvency." LoKD Waison : That was giving effect to the words " local and private." .Mr. Hi.akk: \es, in that particular case. Hut there is no magic in those words : and if it conies within " Property and Civil Rights," the .same prin- ciple must apply. We hold it comes within both. LoRii Watson : I do not think the words "Civil Rights '' and " Property" would havesulficed to take it out of the rule. .V general rule applicable to the Province on particular cases. I do not think you coukl get out by allegifg the power of the Provincial (Jovernment. Taking a particular branch of a .sche- dule that deals with Property and Civil Rights may be (|uite different when you come to the words " Hank- ruptcy and Insolvency." .Mr. Hi.akk: .My contention is that if but for something in section QI "Property and Civil Rights " would have covered the legislation, then this prin- ciple applies just as much as it applies where the legislation would, but fo. section 91, have come within " local and private matters." As a fact, " lo- cal and private matters " is the only subject with reference to which a special limitation is affixed. The judgment proceeds : " But no such law ever has been passed ; an.l to suggest the possibility Ki^ such a law as a reason why the power of the Provincial Lej^islature over this local and private association should be in abeyance, or altogether taken away, is to make a suggestion which, if followed up to its conseiiuenccs, would go very far to destroy that power in all case.s." Lord Watson : That rather goes, to my mind, to this, that if there had been a general law in those terms or to the same effect, but making it applicable to all individuals instead of to the exceptional cir- cumstances of one individual, I do not think that the law would have been laid down to the elTect that the Province could have interfered. TiiK Lord Ciianckli.or : I do not see how the question, whether it affects one or more, touches such a case as this. Mr. Hi.akk; I do not myself perceive any di.»(inc- tion. Acting upon that principle to which Lord Watson has referred, the Privy Council first decided that this was a local and private matter, and they based their decision upon that heading; but the principle and theory on which the decision, after plac- ing the legisla;ion under its proper heading, goes is that 11 local anRl> ClIANCKl.l.OK ; It is always ditlicult to deal with a matter of this sort in the alistract : and to take an illustration, I can ii.iat^ine a (piestion of this sort; .\ scheme of liankruptcy and Insolvency, the primary object of which is to provide that, if a man is unable to pay his cre;ht possibly have lit-en done ; tlicref )rc, it not having: lieen done, all power over that lai'ii, ami therefore over all the land in tlie Province, is taken ;iway so far as relates t*. legisla- tion concerniny matters of a merely local or private nature. That their Lordships think is neither a necessary or reasonable, nor a just and proper construction. I'be fact lli.'it this particu- lar Society appears upon the face of the l'rovinri;d .Act tu have been in a state of embairassnieiit, ami in such a tinancial con- dition that, Mtiless relieved by leijisl.'ition, it minht have been likely to com-' to ruin, does not proie that it was, in any lej;al sense, within tlie c;iteyory of insoKency. Anil, in point of fact, the whole tendency of the .Act is to keep it out "t that category, and not to bring it iiuo it. The .Act does not terminate the company ; it does not propose the linal distribti- tion of its assets, on the footing >f InsoUun^y or liankruptcy; it iloes not wind it up. On the contrary, it contemi latcs lis going on, and. possibly, at some future time, recovering its property, and then these cretiitors, who seem on the fa* e of ibe .Act to be somewhat sunnnarily interfered with, .ire to be reinstated. Their Lordships are clearly of opniion ibat this is not an .Act lelating to limkniptcy ami Insolvency." The Lori-) CiiASiKi.i.dK : Which case is it you are reading from ? .Mk. Hi.AKii: /.' L^iiioii St. /ih,/ii,-s lie A/oiinntl \. /ic'/is/i. Then take the nex' case, Cmhiiii; \. Ihi/'iiy, 5 App. Cas. , page 409, which once again indicates, to my mind, l)y the very language in which It attirms the jurisdiction of the Dinmnion Pailiament, the ab-olute necessity of such an inter- pretation as will leave certain powers to the Pro- vincial Legislature until the Dominion ParliameiU does act. " It would be impo.ssible," say their Lorilships, "to advance a step in the construction of a .schetne for the administration of insolvent estates without interfering with anrecisely my line of argii- ment. It speaks of ordii ary rights of property, and other civil rights. Here, at any rate, we get within "property anci civil rights,''and not within "mattersof a local and private natu'e"; and we get with reference to property and civi' rights the atfirmance of this, that the Dominion Pr.rliament cannot advance a step in using the power to crea'e a Hankruptcy and In- solvency scheme of legislation without touchii?g the Provincial si)here, which, however, until it does choose to act, remains, as we contend, intact. LoRt) Wa'ison : That is a case which is so far an authority, that it turns on these two subsections of secti(m 91 and .section 92. Mr. Hi.AKK : That is ipiite true. I hold it forti- fies my view of the real meaning and force of your Lordship's jirevious decision, that when we come to deal with Cm/iiiii; v. Dupiiy precisely the same line of argument isadopted as to "property and civil rights," which was not expressly stated, but which was, as I contend, inevitably implied it\ IJ Union Si. /a,,/ind procedure within the J provinces." .How far '.' " So /ii> iiv n t,'iiiim/ law rilatiug t: Tht-y have a power to inlerfere if they chonso to legislate ; Init, until tiiey do interfere hy let;ish\tint;, Ihinjjs are where they were. No one can tell liefore- hani! whether they will interfere at all, or what the ch.iracler of ihiir inlrr'"'-. ■ may be ; and in the meantime properly ami ' hts remain intact. I, OK 1 1 Waison : T piittinj.' it too hi{;h, I think. T'le Provincial Parliament had power to establish a HanUriiplcy .scheme before the .Act. Mk. Hi.AKK : I ajjree thai before ajiplying this principle one woidd, lir.U of all, have to find out, if possible, what a bankruptcy scheme is. Tiih Lniti) CHANC'KI.I.OR : A scheme of distribu- tion amoij'f^st creditors of the property of a person who could not pay his debts as they feli due It is not necessary for your proposi'ion tocontest that. Mk. I5I-AKK: Not at all— at least I do not think so— but I su);(jest these additions — cajxible of enforce- ment at the instance of the creditors, and to be fol- lowed (Ml conditions by the discharj;e of the debtor from his liabilities. If we add these, as I conceive, material elements, then, if we must make a defini- tion of Mankru|)lcy and Insolvency on some jjeneral principle, they would lead to a conclusion satisfactory to my ii'ind. TllK I.OKI) (""AN; i-.i.l.OK : Then you would not contend that if it was actually the creation of a liankniplcy Law ? Mk. Hl.AKl', : .\s I have just now attempted to de- fine it. Tiir. I.oKi) CiiAN'cici.i.oR : Whatever is the proper definition of a Kankru|itcy Law, you would not dis])utethat althoiij;h the Dominion had not dealt with it the Province could not. Mr. I'i.akf. : I -vould not. Lord Waison : I did not suppose you would carry it so far. Mr. Bi.akk ; Not at all. LoKi) Watson : Although 'here is an exclusive right of legislation given by section 91 on this matter to the Dominion, yet there are rights in th.e Province which the introduction of a scheme of bankruptcy would, to some extent, displace. Mk. Hi.akk : Ves. Lord Wa tson : And considerably modify. Mr. Hi.akk, : Yes. Lord Watson : So far as they are merely modify- ing the Civil Law for the purpose of introducing it in the Province, they are touching on matters wiih which the Province may ileal in the absence of legis- lation. Mr. Hi.ake: Ves. Then the third case to which I would refer at this stage is Thr Citizt'iis^ /jiu/'anir Com/>c.>nsitler theiiuet.tinn how far the general power to make regulations of trade and commerce, when competently exercised by the I >omiiiion I'arlia- iTient, might legally modify or alTect proj'erty or civil rights in the Provinces, or the legislative power of the Provincial Legis- latures in relation to those subjects." There you see advanced the proposition which Lord Watson suggested. It is plainly implied that a competent exercise of the power to regulate trade and ciunmerce by the Dominion Parliament might modify or affect the power to deal with property and civil rights, which until that com|>etent exercise had taken |)lace wiiuUl remain in the hands of the Pro- vincial Legislature. That is our line. " Questions ny." .So that you get the assertion of that proposition coupled with an indication of the view of the Hoard at that time of the nature of the ilecisions in those two cases. Lord Waison : On the whole, it w.nild be more difficul' to define what is meant by trade and com- merce than to ile*lne what is meant by HankruiJtcy and Insolvency. Mr. Hi.ake : Perhaps so. But your Lordships will have to consider what has been meant in times past by Bankruptcy and Insolvency. There was a time when a Bankruptcy .\cl was enacted in order that corporal ])unishnient might be administered to the bankrupt. There have been all sorts of pro- visions made at different times; and one does not know how f^. the law may extend. '' Bankruptcy and Insolve' cy " can, in truth, hardly be, in strictness, denned except by the action of the Legislature which is to deal with the subjects ; and you must look ;o the statute for the legal definition of the relation which is to create P.ankruptcy or Insolvency ; and to ascertain how extensive and thorough, or how partial and ineffective, may be the sy;;teni which is the cre- ation of that statute. The Lord Chancellor : So far as they would touch property and civil rights, is it not the essence of Bankruptcy and Insolvency, as understood in 1867 at all events, that it should ])rovide for the administra- tion of the estate of the insolvent person, and the distribution of his assets among his creditors? Mr Blake : If I were called on to make a defini- tion of a .system of Bankruptcy and Insolvency, I sho'.'.ld say that not merely then for the first lime, but for a long time previously, the fundamental view had been that, morally, the property of a man who I, ad become unable to pay his debts in full wasa fund for the payment of his creditors as far as it would go, and ought to be divided ratably and proportionately between them The Lord Chancellor : Whether they pro- jioseil to divide it ratably or give a preference — we shall .see presently whether other elements are in- volved, too — was not that element necessarily involved in the cimception of Bankruptcy and Insolvency in the year 1867 ? Mr. Blake : I think it was involved in the con- ception of Bankruptcy and Insolvency ; but I do not think it was limited to that conception. I think, intlependently of that conception. Common Law and common sen.se would rather have indicated, a) ,irt from Bankruptcy law altogether, the notion of a ratable antj equal d^stribulioQ as one that was to l;e favored. ' 10 Lord VVaison : I do not know that wc arc doal- ing with technical terms. Hankruplcy, to my mind — I may he quite wrong rather suggests the condition of an insolvent wlio has licen declared i)y law to he hankrupt. TUF. LoRl. CllANCKl.l OR ; Formerly, in Knglish law, the distinction was that Bankruptcy was the case of a trader, and Insolvency the case of a non-trader. Mr. Hi.ake : Of course. Lord Watson : Insolvency means that a person cannot pay his dehts. The Lord Chancki.i.ok : A law relating to in- solvency was a law relating to dislriliution among the creditors of an estati. of an insolvent person. Lord Wai so.\ : And as everyhody's private affairs are not open to all the world, and the state of his money matters, one of the first essentials of all Bankruptcy law is to lay down a te.;t of Bankruptcy or Insolvency to enahle his creditors to proceed against him as if he were in that condition, without necessarily making themselves actpiainted with his affairs, or having an accountant in to discover whether he can pay. There are certain tests which the law accepts as evidence for the time heing of Ins.j'vency or Bankruptcy. Mr. Bi.AKi; : They are purely conventional con- ditions. They .ire terms which the law for the time heing .sets up as tests. Thk Lord Chancei.i.or : It seiMiis to me that there is very little necessarily included in the ideu of Bankruptcy or Insolvency. The law in different countries may impose conditions and insert provisions for the protection of creditors, hut none of them can he said to he of the essence of Bankruptcy or Insolv- ency law. I think it always was simply provided that if a man could not pay his dehts, his estate should at the application of a creditor l)e vested in an official whose husiness it should he to distrihute it. If there was nothing else hut that, that would he a Bankruptcy law. Mr. Blake : It would, I suppose. Lord \Va Ison : A just distrihution of the whole of the i)ankrupt's and insolvent's estate amongst his lawful creditors according to their rights and prefer- ences. The' Lord Ciia.ncki.i.ok : If not a just dislriliu- tion, it would he still hankruptcy. Any legislation which said that, on a person heing unahle to pay his dehts, the Court would provide or the law ■. ould proviile hy some order of (."ourt or otherwise for the distrihution of his property would he a Bankruptcy law or Insolvent law as understood in 1867, if there was nothing heyond that. I think, taken with that, if the Court took from him the distrihution of his property, there should he no right to sue him for the deht from that moment. Mk. Bi.AKE : N'our Lordship has interposed with the ohservation I was going to make as a suggested addition to the essential elements, if one were called on to make the definition. It would then he a scheme for getting hold of the assets of the dehtor and dividing them according to law or the legal de- mands of justice hetween his creditors — a scheme of which, it may he, the dehtor would he entitled to avail himself voluntarily, hut of which the ci?dilors cer tainly ought to he entitled to avail themselves hy putting the dehtor in iin'itiim into Bankruptcy or In- solvency — a scheme which, as your Lordship has said, taking out of his hands the administration of his assets, should upon conditions of honesty, provi- dence, and so forth, upon conditions varied from lime to lime as experience should indicate, relieve him from Hal ility to he sued for any halances re- maining after that administration. Now, it is quite clear that, supposing you lay that down, you must leave to the sense of the Legislatineat the moment of legislative action the definition of what should he presumed to lie the essential elements of hankruplcy. Nor ilo we in this definition emhrace any of the .minor details and the numerous conditions on which credilors would he entitled to intervene, or dehtors to he discharged. The Lord Chancei.i.or; With reference to fraudulent preference, which is a common adjunct to ^ianuiiiptcy law, that is ohviously not an essential part. Mr. Bl.AKi; : ()iiite so; nor anything that is in f'ari iiititeria with the .Statule of Kli/aheth. Th.'.t has heen the holding with reference to ,he earlier sections of this Act, that it is not Bankrupl.-y ox Insolvency at all. There are innumerahle details as to the con- ditions on which the law should he invoked. The Lord Chancellor : Reputed ownershiii, for example. Mk. Blake; \'es ; and the conditions on which discharge should he allowed ; the circumstances under which a creditor should he perinitled to jiro- ceed; the priorities of creditors; the rights as hetween creditors and purcha.sers or transferees — all these questions interfering with property and civil rights remain ahsolutely unsettled. One does not know how far the Legislature may go, or in what direc- tion. Lord Waison : .Supposing there had heen a scheme of Bankruptcy enacted liy the Legislature of the Dciniinion, hut it had merely gone the length of (lirecling in what circumstances B.ankruptcy proceed- ings should issue, and f.ir adjudication, and then mak- ing •|>rovisions for getting in the estate and the ap- pointment of a trustee, and had simply directed that the estate should he distrihuted according to law as to their respective rights and preferences, would that have ousted the power and authority of the Provincial Legislature to direct what their preferences /«/('»■ se wf (piestions which ucight be very dilll- cult. \ our argument I miderstaiid to be this : Un- til there is legislation, you are not to assume that Bankruptcy legislation ought to or will include the regulation of the rights cil creditors iii/,r ii\ They may leave that to the ("onimon Law, and if it was left to the Common Law that would not prevent the Provincial Legislature (torn altering the Connnon Law of the Province. But another (piestion might arise if the Dominion Legislature were to enact a Bankru|>lcy law not conlining itself in the way I have indicated, but were to goon lo make pro- visions for the preference of creditors in the bank- ruptcy ; but until it has done that there is nothing to warn the I'rovincial Legislature off the field. Mr. Bi.akk: Ves, my Lord. And another and difficult ipiestion might arise as to the jirecise range of the res|)eclive powers, and a further (|uestion might arise when there had been but a partial exercise of the |)ower. Lord Wai son : Then the matter for consideration, if they were .so to legislate, would be whether the ])ower was really incidental to the construction of a Bankruptcy scheme. Mr. Bi.AKK: Precisely. Lord Waison : There may be a considerable dis- tinction between what is necessary to the idea of the Bankruptcy scheme and what may be incidental. Mr. Bi.AKK : No doubt, and that is a part of the argument that seems to me to be invincible. Lord Wai SON : With a Bankruptcy .scheme it must always be open to the Legislature charged with the en- actment of that scheme to consider how much they leave to the Common Law and leave to the Provin- cial Lei'islature. Mr. Bi.AKK: \'es, perhaps within limits; and gianting all that, which is the most favorable inter- [.retation that can be suggested for the powers of the Dominion I'arliament- -the largest interpretation you can give — Lord Wa'I'son : I do not express any opinion on that. Mr. Bi.AKK: I say so because it leaves open lo them, at any time, the assertion of their extreme rights. Lord Waison : In other words, you put it that till the power is exercised the strictest limit must be assumeil. Mr. Bi.AKK: Ves. Take the absolute essentials until such time as they choose to act ; and when they choose to act they can, unembarrassed by ar • prior decision of any Court, assert the proposition that, though such and such are the only absolute essentials — are Insolvency and nothing el.se -yet, naturally and reasonably, for the purpose of unift)rmity and conveni- ence, and so forth, they have a right to go a great deal further, and may |)rovide for various details, thus putting in abeyance Provincial legislation which in the meantime was operative. That is a convenient construction. It leaves most at large, and it does least harm. At present the Dominion are acting a little like the alterna- tives as to ihe meaning of " Bankruptcy and Insol- vency." The lirst, that it is ab.solutely elastic and in- definite ; thai these are relations which require to be defined and regulated by the law itself, and of which, unless and until defined and regulated, it is impossible to anticii)ate the definition by antecedent judicial in- terpretation. .And that, I think, is consistent with the exposition of L'lrd Selborne where he s|ieaks of "cer- tain well-known relations," because iii that exposition, 12 when liL- j^ets a lilllc further (iii, lie speaks of those re- lations as existent "acconiinj; to detinitions prescribed by law, inclii(lin(; the conditions on wiiich the law- is to be broiifjht into o|ieralion"; and therefore the law really is t(. [irescribe what its own nature and extent shall be. Jf you take " Hankrup.cy and Insolvency" to he that, you merely say it is insusceplib. ■ of deli- nition in any sense which entitles you to withdraw froni " Property and Civil Kij^hts" any particular con- dition or relation unless and until the concrete case has arisen and Dominion legislation has taken place. That is the lirst alternative. lf,on the other hand, the view alreated,aiKl you say we cannot yive a complete dellni- tion of what Bankruptcy and Insolvency may possibly mean, because it may mean a ijreat deal or it may mean a very little ; l)Ut there is, upon tiie last analysis, p residuum, an essential and vital element which you can, as a lejjal propo Ition, affirm and deline, and that element is thus and so ; then, no dotd)t, you {;et by Construction a s'lort and sharp line, beyond which lino, even in the absence of Dominion let^islation, the Local l,ej;islalure cannot pass uniler " Property and Civil Rij;hts." Well, what is this essential resi- duuu', this vital element .■■ Who is to lay it down ? Are you to take what is sugj;ested as a definition by Lord .Selborne, that it is certain well-know princi- ples of law, known not merely to British subjects, but t( most civilized countries? Is it to be the law of I'Jigland, or the law of Scotland, or the law of Ire- land, or the law of the I'nited Kingdom, as i! stood in 1S67, or the law of Nova Scotia, or New Bnms- wick. where there were none, or that of Lower Canada, wliere it was limited, or that of Upper Canada, where it was more extended .•■ These are some of the diffi- culties in which one is plunt;ed w hen one attempts the task. But I do not at all dissent hom what I under- stood to be thesut;j;eslion of your Lordship as to what must be reckoned essential elements- L<>Kl) Wai'SoN: Do yo\i say the words " Bank- ru[)tcy and Insolvency" refer to some local condition — local statutes ? .Mr. Bl.AKi; : To some local condition to be cre- ateu shall not touch that ; it shall be divided by somebody else am mgst your creditors," and that at once gives him the status. TiiK Lord Chancki.i.or : Is there any system of Bankruptcy or Insolvency that you know of in which the element does not exist of the man's disposal of his property being prevented, and his coming under some legal control as to the administration of it ? Mr. Bi.aki;: I do n'ot think so. No As to In- s ilvencv as distinguisheil from Bankruptcy, prior to Lord Westbury's .\ct InsolvenL-y law was (oundedon another principle altogether. I understand the old Insolvency law was a irjasure of relief to the debtor, and in mitigp.ion of il.c rigor of imprisonment for debt he -..as conmiilled lo gaol, but was allowed to gel out. Louti .M AiSAci I KN : On making an assignment. Mr. Bi.akk : Ves. TllK Lord (^iiancei i.or : Then it was essential to take fr(jm him his property. Mu. Bl.AKi; : Necessarily. Till', Loud Ciiancki,i. that, while it is (piile possible, as shown by the cases to which I have referred, that the Diminion may at sometime so act as to sujiersede, in part, this legislation, and to appropriate, in [lart, this field ; while it may make a very wide or a very narrow law ; while it may deal with ancillary pro- visions to a large or to a limited extent ; whiliMt may take up ihe ([uestion of proced.ure very extensively, or not at all, it leaves open, in the meantime, that doubtful and debatable grouniiebec, law wa> different from the Oiilario law ; and practically in this case it differed because there had always been in the Civil Code of Lower Canada provisions under which an execution eitureil for the benellt, nol only .)f the single creditor who p., I in the execution, bul of all other creditors who might put in their claims. The property seized was discusseil, anil the proceeds were applied ratably. That being the law ir. (^)uebec, so far as concerned executions, it did not recpiire improvement. Then, what happened in Cpper Canada miller this law? The lirsl section printed here, the iStli of the Act, deals practically with executions. It provides : " Every cciiifrs-.ivjn," aiul sii on, " liy any pfrson, liv;iiic, It ihe time, in insolvent circunist:>ni:es, ur iin.-iljle to pay hi^ ilelils in full, or kn-'uinu liinisell lo lie on the eve ol in- Milvency wiili Intent to .Ule.ii or ililay i.reilitor>, wholly or in p.irt, or with iiueiil iherel > of jjivini; one or more nf tlie creditor'^ a preferein' over oihrr erediior-, or over any one or II. ore of such i:re< Mrs, shall lie invalid and iiiulTei:tu.d to support .uiy judumeiu ■ writ of exeuulioii ; and every such con- fession," and so on, " ^ ' he deemed and taken lo he null and viiid .r. an.unsi ihecredi if the party (juim; the same In all intents anil pui poses wlia; ver. Well, that is really in large pan the Statute of |-',li/abelli. .\nd as lo .section 19 : •■ II any person, heini;, at ilie time, in insolvent circumstances, or un.ililetopaj liisdehtsin lull, or knowini; himself to he on the eve of insolvency shall make, or cause lo lie made, any «ifl, convey- .uice. assi;;nmcni, or transfer, if any, of his ijooits. chattels, or effects, or dehver or make oxer ;iny hills, honds, notes, .ir other seciirilie- or properly, with inlenl lodefeal or ilelay the creditors ol such person. ,ir with inlenl of >;iviny one or more of the creditors of such person a preference over his other creditors, or over any one or more of such creditors, every such j»ift, con- \eyaiice, a^sinnment, transfer, or delivery, shall he deemed and taken to he ahsohltely null and voitl," etc. What is done wiih reference to an assignment for the benellt of all credilors ? There is a proviso in the nature of a saving clause only ; ■■ Provided alwaysihat nothins; lieiein contained shall he held or construed to imalidale or make \oid any iWt-d of as.iyipnenl in.ide or e\ei uled l)y any dehlor lor the puri.nse.if payiim and salisfyiuK ralahly anil proporlionahly, and without preference or priority, all the credilors of such dehior their just dehts." TllK I.OKii Cham Ki.l.oR : That simply leaves it alone. Mr. Hi aki: : Leaves it alone; and it is simply left alone still today. That provision is carried through down to the Act which is impugned. So that you gel these two simple proposilioiis : a propo- sition as to executions, ami a pn position as to trans- aclioiis made with intent to delay, defeat or prefer, declaring lliein lo be null and void against credilors if maile in parlicular circiimslanees. LoKi) Waisdn : Practically what has been done by the clause complained of is that the Provincial Legislature has stepped in and said that when such a deed as is excepted by the proviso has been executed, it shall take ellect against execution creditors. Mk. Hi.akk : N'es ; but your Lordship has not yet been made aware, because I have not come to it yet, what alterations had previously been made in the law as to execution credilors. I must come to that some- what later on .Vs I have urgeil, and as it has been universally held by the judges who have discussed the subject, this legislation was validly at'lirmed b> the Provincial Legislature which allirmed it, and would have been valid original Provincial legislation after Confederation as being within " Property and Civil Rights," and tit f'aii i:iti/eii(i with the .Statute of l)li/abeth. That is the line of argument which we talve, and which is supported by a consensus of judicial opinion. LoKli Waison: It was -.aved liy the Confedera- tion .\cl. .Mn. Hi.akk : .Ml prior Provincial legislation was sa\eil for all purposes; but the power to touch such legislation rested after Confederation exclusively with the l.egislaliire within whose dominion the subject passed. .And what 1 am submitting is that a dealing with that pre-ConfeiU alior .\ct would have fallen exclusively within the iroviiuial power. In |iart, it is a reproduclion of ihe .Statute of I"li/abelh. In one element it is more comprehensive, because it extends to preferences. In anolhifr it is nominally more limited, l.'i'cause it is cotdined expressly to persons either in insolvent circumstances or unable to pay their debts in full, or knowing themselves to be on the eve of insolvency. Hut, in Iruth, the mischief of the Statute of I'.lizabeth was practically limited to cases of that class. Nobody asked for an order to get back some property that had been abstracted through a traiisaclion void under the .Statute of Llizabeth if there was plenly of other jiropeity left to pay all the debts. I' was only when, iirespective of the transaction, or conseipient upon it, there ensued a deticiency of assets for the payment of the debts that the Statute of f.li/abeth had any practical or actual opeiation at all. It was only where there was not enough property left for the payment of the debts that the Statute was usehil. If a man had /, 100,000. and liabilities of /,20,ooo, and made, to defeat or delay credilors, a Conveyance of /, io,coo, of course no tpiestion arose; there was no necessity for impugning ihe transaction. That observation has acijuireii additional force from the remark of Lord Tenlerden in S/iif all williiMii havinj; j;()l oxcciilion ? N'oii have a law iiiidcr «hich, applying,' tlu' |irinci|ilL' of action cstali- lislu-d for the Statute of llli/alntli, an execution creditor can, either for himself or on liehalf of himself and others, proceed lo avoid and discuss. N'ou have a law under which, applying; the ;.anie principle of a without the seal and mark of an execution, or by allowing a trustee appointed by the debtor for the payment of his creditors t represent the creditors directly, and on their behalf to avoid and discuss, would be as clearly within the competence of the Legislature as the previous provision. Till-, LoKi> CilANCKl.l.OK : Take the illustratitm you gave of what was done in the I'rench Province. That was allowed when the execulit)n and the other creditors came in and interfered, but nobody would call that liankruptcy anil Insolvency. Mk. Hi.AKK: No. Then if I get thus far, that such a law as that of lS5Sis rec(;/■; wrint shows the consolidation ; and it is important to repeal the observation in this connection, that being on the Statute Hook of the old Province of ("anida from before 1S59, in 1864 the Province passed the Insolvent Act, which was appli- cable lo traders only in Lower Canada, and in Ujiper Canada to all T.iat .\ct remained in force for those three years, biit though during the existence of these Insolvent Acts this .\ct of iS^S was naturally less used, because there were many conditions in which the Insolvent Act i)racticall) superseded it, yet it was never repealed, but re.nained in existence. Nobody ever supposed it was repealed or modified or changed impliedly, as it ceriaiidy was not expressly, by the Insolvent Act. There it stood on its own merits ; and that also forms a mark of acknowledged distinc- tion from Insolvency and liankiuptcy legislation. Till'. Lciui) Cii \N'(i:i,l,')K : There is a passage in a work on Bankruptcy which I have herewhich makes this statement as to what the old law was in Hank- ruptc) : " 'riif jnii^;iii tioii in Itatikruptcy has .lutliorily tj,'( ther. The Insohent Act was not thoujjht lo supersede the other, ana)je 7 ; in l88(), at pa^je 13, and in i8()o al the same Iiai,'e, will be found local let;islation dealinj; with this law. Loi;i> Waison: Cons Waison : Il inip;ht be more useful in one case than the other. Mk. Hl.AKK: Probably. It would have its prac- lical operalion, just as the .Stalute of Klizabelh had its practical operation, when there was a deficiency. If there was enough for all, il w-ould not be material in any case, and the remedy was, as I have said, ijiven upon and in consetpience of the abolition of the In- solvent Act. TlIK LoKl) C^IIAMKl.I.OK : It is an exceplioiuil case where a man lets an execution he levied when he is solvent. Mk. Hi.akI': : It is lie may, perhajis, if he knows himself to be on the eve of insolvency. l: \ TllK LoKl) Cll AN( Kl.l.OK : There are some excep- li(ins, l)\it it is the exception rather than the rule. Mk. Hi.AKK: There are some cases reported of solvent Imt eccentric persons who ne\er \ny except under execution. Till-; LoKli C'llAM ici.i.dK : I think they .'re the exception. Mk. Hiaki; : I hopi- s,^. Thus your Lordships Cind that, since the year iSSo, there li.is lieen on tlu' .Statute Hook a law whi( h, in efi'ict, aliolislie': piiority .inioiifjst execution creilitor-., rU merely amongst themselves, liul as between themselves and other creditors ; l)ec:uise it gives to all creditors the rii;ht to avail themselves of the circimistance that any one creditor has issued an executioi\ aim it provides for the discussion of the assets in favor of all those creditors. That was a very important improvcuieiil ; hut it dealt with only one element of the matter, the assetsexijjihle under execution ; it did not in terms deal withor advance the avoidanceof preferential orfraucUi- lent a'-sinnments. They were left as they stood, and the old law and remedie.-. applied ; ln,t when they applied, I api'iehend they would, under the operation of the new law, have applied for the lienelil of all. Then it was found that some of the evils of prefer- ence continued, and that the defects of the law of I SSo were serious Seven years elapsed after the passai^e of the Act in iS.So, under which the relief provided hy the Civil Code of (Quebec had been ^;iven to On- tario, anil in 1SS7 was passed the .\cl which is specially imder consideiation here, and which is set out at page 7 of ll.e print. The lirst section of that .■\ct is ecpiivalent to the lirst poition of the iSth .sec- tion of the original .\cl of 1S38. The 2nd section of that Act is e(|uivalent to the first portion of the 19th section of the .-XclofiSiS. The jrd section of that .\cl is the latter ))art of the njlh section of the .\ct of 1S5S, that part which prevents a prior assignment form being invalidate WaI'scin : I should think it woidd be ad- mitted that if the Provincial Parliament had power to (leal with and modify these sections of the .\ct of tSsS, it would be diliicult to maintain that they had not power to enact section 9. The argument against you, I should think, must be that there was no power to enact those sections. Mk HiakK: Vour Lordship will have observed that I laid considerable stress (jn the fact that they had power to make hese modilicalions, and that this was competent Provincial legislation. I have not, indeed, slatekii Cham kiihk : It is quite clear, if you look at the laiglish law, Irom the earliest limes till <|uite recently, that you might have an assignment for the general benetit of creditors (]uite independent of bankrui'tcy. Mk. Hiaki;: Certainly. There is ncr ipiestion about that. LoKli .M AiAAc.ll I I.N : Those assignments were made Acts of Bankruptcy by .vets of Parliament. Mk. Hi.AKK: Nes. Ldkii .Macnacii I kn : .-^nd made .\cts of liank- rujitcy because they put the prciperty in a ditlerent course of distribution to what Hankruiitcy law directs, and supposing they tof)k it out of IJankrupicy : that is why it was made an .Vet of liankruptcy. Mk. Hi. auk : The Legislature saiil, first of all, that it was evi.ience of a condition of liankruptcy — LdKli Ma( SAHHiKN : Intended or having the effect of delaying creditors, becaii.se they tonk it out of the owner's hands to pay his debts. Mk. Hi.AKK; .And they conceived that the general public interests were best served by providing that persons in such a condition that they were obliged to make an assigmnent should make it in the form the law had recognized, so that the asse's might be ''is- cussed and administered under one general law. LoKli M AC N.\i;ii I KN : They ha(l declared in ex- press terms that tht'Se particular assignments were acts of bankruptcy. It re(|uired a statute to make it. Mk. Hi.xKIC ; V'es. Till-: LdKli Cmanvided that " Kvt-iy assiL;nnient ft)r the i;eneral i'elietu of rrt'ditors. wMch is not voiil under seition 2 ot" this .\ct. I>ut is nut nt.ide t'> itie sherifT, nor to any otiier person with the prest rilieti onsent of LTeditor^, shall lie \oitl as a;;aii|st a subseijuent assisninent whicli is in conformity vvjth itiis .Act.' That is not now material. LoKii Waisiin : What I am pointing to is thi?. I do not know that this is necessary for your case, and I need not .say more than this, that it is open to discussion whether section 19 of the .Vet of the lt)lh .Vtigust, 185S — taking thai section- is or is not gislation in Insolvency : " If any jierson being at I lie time in insolvent circunistances, or unable to [lay his debts in full, or, knowing himself to be on the eve of insolvency, shall make," and so on. If that is legislation in Insolvency within the iiienning of sec- tion 91, then there was no power in the Legislature of IH Oiilario ti) ni.idify (ir .liter thai cLiitse. They can ciiiisciliilali.' il, anil taki'all tlie usual iirocoediii^js ; hut if it is k'nislal'iiii in Iin.olviMicy ami with ri.-latii)ii to Insolvency within the nieai.inj; of Ktction f)i, they woulil have no |i.)Wer to alter it. Supposiiij; that is so, the (|uestio'i would still remain, hut the case \i()id(l oe clearer in fav'or of si.'ction () of the .\ct in question liefore ns if that w.is not Insolvency lej;isla- tioH, hut it i- liy no UR.ins oxiiaustivo of the rij;ht ol (he I'rovince to enact section 19. Mu. HtAKK ; No, liecaiise al! that the I'rovince lias ilone is this. What have they done as Id 19 — I.iiM) Waison : U looks very much like Insol- vency le^islati'in- section 19 of the .\ct of 185S. .Msi. Hl.AKi; ; What have they done about il ? Wni must consider the particular thin^ they have done — LoKii Waison ; Th.u was pan of the statiile law of KS67. Mn. Hl.AKK ; Doubtless. I.oKli Waison : I understand tiiat in Lower Canada, which had been the Province of (.lanada from 1S40 to 1SO7, it was altered in that lespect by the introiiuclion of the ("ode. The Code was enacted in Lower Canada in 1S66, before the .\ct of iSb; pissed; but there are provisions in the .Act, it may be — I rather think there are -however, there mi^ht be pro- visions in the statute law of I'pper Canada, or Ontario, wii'i which the Provincial Legislature had no power to deal, but only the Parliament of Canada. .Mr. IjI.akk : Doubtless. I ipiite concede that. LoKD Watson : I do not think you outjht to assume that section 19 of that .\ct of 1S58 was not legislation in Insolvenc). It jirofesscs to l)e so. Mk. Hlakk: Well, Ido not know — LORl> Waison : That depends upon the orijjinal point you have discussed. .Mk. Hi.a.K: On the nieaninjj of "Insolvency," and on lej,'isla,l(m with reference to persons being either in or on ; e eve of insolvency ; that is to say, ;rf:it su list .-nice of ddi^r iiieiiS uoikIs ', and i^ornl coriscienie, He it therefore etiatled hy anthority of this present Parliament; That the Lord C^h.'ui- I ellor of l-'.nul.ind or Keeper of lheer of the I-eyislature beyond its lawful bounds. 1 invite your l,ordslii|is with earnestnes;- to consider liiC ali.enct of lianUrupicy and Insolvency Uj;islation by thv Domin- ion I'arlianient — TlIK Liikli CilANCKI.I.oH : I take it the object of putting in those words is for the protection of the individual who i^ets the benelil. If you can show that t'.e man wa'- solvent, your deed is a f;ood one. Mr. IJl.AKi; : I think so; that can be the only object. They do not want that transacli'iiis should be interfereil with in any other than the class of cases in which it is reasonable that they should be inter- fered with. They leave tlieui as niiich as possible protedeil and untouched., and they leave as much security and certainly to tr.insac'ions between parties as nuxy be consistent with tne object of the Act. But supposiny; this hid not been m.xde part of some bank- ruptcy and Insolvency lej^islalion, would anybody say such a law was ni>t a ^ood law of the I'rovincial Lej^islaiiirc? Would anybody say that an adverse conclusion was to be reached l>y the process of imply- ing that it diii no; ajiply to a person who, in point of fact, had never been a bankrupt or insolvent, but was simply iniiiecunious ? Till'. I.OKl) ClIANCKI.I.OK ; Do yoti say the word " Bankruptcy " was not a known word in any Pro- vincial legislation 'i Mr. Hi.akk : N'es, my I.onl. It is invariably "Insolvency," though applied to traders and con- taining " Bankruptcy " provisions. TiiK Lord Ciian(KI.i.(ir : It would look as if the word " Bankruplcy " was introduced from our law. Mk. Bi.akk: Ves ; I will not aftirm that in some old legislation, before my time, there may not have been a law entitled Bankruo'cy, but in modern limes we have used the phrase " Insolvency " as indicative of both cla>se-> of debtors, traders and non-traders, and as covering the whole range. I think it was ])riident to insert " Bankruptcy" in the article; be- cause an argument might have been foundeil on the absence of the word, having regard to the state of the I'.nglish law, and also to the dillerence recognized in some I'rovincial legislation !)etween trailers and non-tradeis. TlIK LuRii ("II AM lU.l.oR : Becau.se wich the con- junction of the two it may be tn : What is the meaning of the word " Bankrupt '".^ TiiK Lord Ciiancki.i.c^r : Haiico rolto, in Italian. If the iiarty could not pay, he was said to be " bench broken." .Mr. Bi.akk : What is practically done by the rest of this .\ct ? first of all, everything that is essential to maintain this \c\ is in the earlier .sections to which I have referred. I show that every essential to main- tain these sections is in the .-Vet of 1S5S, and I show that all the rest is mere machinery to carry ou(. these purposes. For insiance, there is a short form of as- signment. The I'rovincial Legislature can frame short forms of deeds, transf*rs, mortgages, chattel mortgages, and make provisions as to the method of charge nr transfer. It is provided that you can use a few certain words to express a great many other words, much, maybe, to the harm of the conveyancer and copyi>t Lord Waisun : How N : Do they mean anything different ? Mr. Bi.akk : N't). TiiK Lord Ciia.N( ki.i.hr : In Knglish law. if ;hat may be supposed to alTect il, Bankruplcy and Insol vency would mean the case of people unable to pay their debts. The distinction, if it is supposed to be taken from the I'.nglish law and the Imperial Legis- lature may possibly be su|iposed to be inllueiiLed by the lerminology of the l!n^lish law —may be that Bankruptcy and Insohency were intendeil here to cover the case of traders and noii traders. .Mr. Bi..\kk ; Possibly: althcjugh there had been a fusion c)f the law befori. 1S67 ; as I understand by the .\ct of 1S61. TlIK Lord ("iiancki.lor ; That is iptiie true, but very recent. Mr. Bi.akk : \'ery recent. The intention, I have nodoubt, was to p'ace it beyoiul cavil and contention that the legislation was not to be confined to either traders or non-trailers, out that both classes of the communiiy were to be includetl within the power of the Dominion Parliament. That must have been the object. .Ml the rest of the .\cl, as I was saying, is to carry out the object of the earii r provisions. ("hose provisions stand on an undisputed foundation, be- cause they are provisions before Confederation, not repealed . t attempted to be altered in any essential particulars. Then you hnd the assignee is given by the 7th section : " .'\ rii;lit of suint; for the rest issinii t>r afireeiiieiits, deeils, .-irnl instrtiiiieiils, or t)iht;r trati'-.'iLtions iiiatie or ctucrefl into in fr.-iml of Ciiancki.i.or : .Supposing there was a provision that any conveyance for the benelit of all a inan's creditors should avoiil any conveyance for any indiviilual creilitor or limited nundter of his creditors with superior priority, woiilil that be a bad law because the fact that he made a conveyance to all his creditors would show he was insolvent ? 20 Mk Hi am-,; I siiliiiiii iKii. I (Tu.iiiil sec tli;it il wn'.ild. Ami ycl I can iin.lirsliuicl that, il n I'ank- riiptcy or liisolvciu y law uc-re |).i>sfil by ihc l)i)min- ion, il niijjhl conlain (irovision^ wliicli would Mijierscde >iuh a law. TlIK I.OKIi CllANi KI.I.11K ; It ini^jlil vtry well supcrsetk' ail transaclions within a limitt-il time. Mk. Hi.AKK: I can iindcrsland thai. lUil I can- not sec, in the aUscnce rf such a Honiinion law, how the <|ucstion can arise ; ;\"id your Lordships >ee every argument of convenience is in favor of the construc- tion which is proposed, because it does not abstract a sinj^le possible power of the l)nniinioii I'arliamenl to nioulil this matter a^- il pleases. It simply leaves a power to be used as lou^ and as far as the i)ominion I'rirliament docs not interfere. That is all that is asked by us. Hut what, on the other side, is asked is that -while tlie Domiiiicm rarliament does not inter- fere the l'rovini:ial I .e^islaturc is not to be alloweil to interfere, and that within a vajjue raii^;e, of which I cannot at all discern ihe limits or lines ; a construction which would involve obscurity ami confusion and paralysis from the moment it was adopted. Till. I.nun Cii AN( 11 I c Ik : The j^ivin(j of certain licenses is in the power of the I'rovincial I.et;islature. Mk. lii.AKi. : \es. Till'. l,ni<|p Cham i;i.i.i>K ; .Supposinj; there was a law which said that no person who has not paid his creditors in full .should he entitled to such a license. .Mk. HiakIv: Certain I'rovincial licenses are al- lowed only for revenue purposes. I am inclined to doubt whether the su^f;esled law would be within the spirit ofthe^'ranl, which is with a view to revenue for local purposes. Now, I will trouble your Lord- .ships with some references to the iu Wkusi kk : It had arisen in a County ( 'ourt case, in which this jiarticular claim had been niaile under this kind of deed as between the execu- tion creditors. That is how it came up. There was a proce dinj; upon it. Mk. IJi.aki-'. : There had been proceedint;s on other parts of the Act. Li>Kl) .SiiAND : Il naturally throws you into the ex- amination of the statute as a whole. Mk. Hi.akk : I do not admit that LdkI) SiiaM); It runs into the (|ueslion very much whether that slatute is one within your power. TllK LoKii CllAN'c Kl.i UK : \ou do not admit that ? Mk. Hi akic: No. Certainly not. '^wv. LoKi. Cham i;i.i.()K : The statute may, in many parts, deal with Insolvency, and in other parts deal with other matters. Mk. Hiakk : Certainly. I-'irst, I suj;i;est lhat,asa whole, the statute is one within I'rovincial compe- tence ; and, secondly, I contend that even thouj;h you may find parts of the statute which are possibly " In- solvency" — it is for my learned friends to point out those which they contend to be such — but, even so, if they are not the substratum of the whole, I distin- .i;uish — TllK Lord Ciiancki.i.ok : We must be entitled, not only to look at the whole, because the provisions standing by themselves might he ancillary to provis- ions in the old ones. Mk. HlAKK: .\nd llicrefore I ar^ue that it is impos- sible to look at clause <) with ml looking at its rela- tions ; but its relations may be such as would show you that il would stand, even thoujjh certain parts of the .\cl mijjht be void. 1 now turn to the jud^jiuenls, to wliicli it is my duty to refer. .\t pa^e 2 of the Record, the Chief justice adverts to the decision if Claikson \. 'J'iii Onltv io /uink, and ihne others, in which the constilulionalily of the .Act was considered, and says that he has reexamined his adverse opinions and sees no reason to alter them. Then he thinks that section <) cannot be separated from the rest of the statute. It [irovides : " rii.ll .-tn.issi);riMiem iiniler llie .\cl shall take precfilencc of all judunif'iits and executions not (.'nniplelely executed hy pay- ment. I lielieve iliat this section was reliuil on, anil c .msiilereil as on,, of ilie chief aruuineiits against the .Act, as sliowin^; the niosi niarked evidence of the creation of a new system for the ailrninisir.ition of Insolvent Kstates inteifeiin;; with the ordi- nary laws jis rt'cards delitor and < retlilor, and .is iretuhinu on the siiliject of l!ankrii|>lcy ami Insolvency. I lind il impossihle to seoarale it from the rest of the .\ct. or togivean opinion as to its efTifta standini; by itself, unless I arrived at a jiid^^inent the opposite lo that expresscil In iSSS, to which I still fully .'ulliert.'* May I be permitted to observe that the section in- terferes with the ordinary law only as rej^ards debts. ^ Till'. Lord Ciiancki.i.ok : I do not understr.ml th-it. •Mr. Hi.aki: : It seemed tome :> construction un- duly limiting; the power of the Legislature. There is no " ordinary law" in the senseol a law fixed as those of the .Meiles and Persians. The Lef^islatiire iiiav alter all or any of the laws. TllK Lord Ch.sncki i.hr : They have power to deal with any properly or civil rights. .Mr. Hi.aki-;: The latter i)hrase I cannot object to on Ihe same ground, as an exjiression of opinion, how- ever much I may dissent from its soundness, "trench- ing on he disputable subject of Hankruptcy and Insol- vency," but the former part st?ems to me to indicate a stale of mind with reference to the function of the Legislature not conducive to the formation of a cor- rect conclusion. Then he goes on : " The opinions of the ludgisof the Supreme Conn in (,'iiirt v. 7V/(^>//(-(-/M 19 Sup. Ct. S43) seem lo support the \icw that leLiisJation of the nature of that now hefore us, alTectinj; the distiihuticjn of insolvent estates, is appropriatecl hy the l-'eder- alion .\ct to the Dominion Parliament." There, again, we reach the old (uestion. (,>itir/ v. 77/!' <'//('(// was a case in which, alter nnich conllict of opinion, and by the narrowest possible majority, the Siiiireme Court held that ceriain legislation by the Dominion Parliament, directed to the administration of the affairs of the insolvent Hank of Cpper Canada, was within the jurisdiction of the Dominion Parlia- ment. They may have been right or wrong. I may very well, for the purposes of this case, be indifferent whether they were right or wrong My whole argu- ment is based on the proposition that while the Do- minion Parliament could exercise large jiowers in part superseding previously ettectual I'rovincial legis- lation, until sucli exercise il would be perfectly com- petent to the Provincial Legislature to act. And, therefore, tliough an argument, might be advanced against the clecision in Quirl v. T/i, {>tietit somewhat analogous to arguments that might be advanced on '.he other side in the case of /.' I 'iiion SI . /tui/uti de Motilrcal \. />'(•//>/., still the existing conditions do not, in the slightest degree, .make the former case material toour purpose. I admit that thedecision indi- cates a very large and extensive |)otential range of legislation in the hands of the Dominion Parliament. I say that the larger you make the potential range, •21 the further you say it is possiMe for the Dominion rnrlianient to ^o, the more essential it is that yon shonlil l'ice Hurton says he can add hut little to what he said in ihe case of /u(i;iir v. '/'/u- Cc'ii/nil Haul: : " Tlic I'.irlianieiU ofC.inaila, liaviiii; power to p.iss laws for tlie good i;o\errimciit of die l>oiiiinion. wtrc t-n. rusted with the exchisUi: power of passing! I.iws on the suljiect of liankriiplcy and In>olveni.y; and the c|iicstion is whether tliis section falls within those terms. Their meaning is, I think, well ex|ir»-sse(! liy Lord Selhorii'^ thus: 'The words describe in iheir well- known le^.il sense provisions made hy law fir the adtiiinistra- tion of the estate of persons who ni.'iy become l):inkrnpt or insolvent ai:»ordinK to ndes and delinilions prest:ril»ed hy law, inchiiling, of coarse, the conditions on whiih that law is to he hronK^u into operation, the manner m which it is to he brought into operation, ,ind the etTect of its operation.' In other words. Bankruptcy and Insolveiu:y were well-known legal terms, not confined to the state of things in Kngland, or the Provinces, at the time of the passing of the Confederation .\ct. hnl appli- calile to systems of legislation with wlii.h the whole civili/ed world were presn ned to be familiar, the Dominion Parlia- ment, and that Parliament alone, can determine whether the legal relation of Itankrnpt or Insolvent shall be createil ont of any given coiiiliina ion of ractsorcircunistances ; but there would seem to he a ditTerence of opinion as to the true meaning t.) he attribnied to the language of l^ord Selborne. It appears to be diought by some that he was not dealing with tiie well- known legal sense of the terms llankrupt or Insolvent, hnl that Ihe words bail relation to all persons unable to p.iy their debts in full, an^l in th.'it sense therefore insolvent, ami rot to persons declared by competent authorilyto be bankrupt or insolvent. " There is certainly, as there not infrecpiently hajipens in cases of clelinilions, a dispute as to what Lord Selbonie's defmitiiui means ; hut whatever may be true conclusi.ms as to his reference in the words "according; to lilies and all persons unable 10 meet .leir liabilities is evidently the view entertained by the lale Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in l\i\t;i>iii v. Chantilt'r^ 2 Carl. 4,?i. That case was decided very shortly after Con- feder.-iiion, and would scarcely be so de:id.ed ai the present day. The matters dealt with by the statute come cle.-uly within ihe definition of property .-md civil rights, and the onus is therefore upon those whi>atlavk il 10 show its validity. I find il very dilliiailt lo understami upon wlat ground local legislation making provision for the disiril}uiif)n of a man's estate among his cretlitors, .-^nd even for his discharge, can be impugned as l)eing beyond their jurisilictiou." Lnuii Watson : That reason seems to reach the case where the law compelled the debtor to make over his estate. Mk. Hi .\Ki'. : \es ; I should ififer that Mr. Justice Burton went, perhaps, that far. LoKH .SiiANii : .\ provision for an adjudication in Bankruptcy ' Lord Watson : Ves. Mr. Bi.AKK : " In the case of Ed^ar v. '/'/;,• Cen- tral Hani: I went in detail over several of the other sections " and then he says he still thinks that the reasons apply to these sections, and that he should hold it good except for the decision of the Supreme Court in O'lii/ v. /"//(■ {hitvn. I will not trouble 32 your l-oidships with rending; that part now, lu'caiise 1 have siatctl previovisly, wiili a view \n nirtailiti^ my arminuMii, the reason why 1 nmi'tive {>i/h/ v. /'//<• {htt-t II is not material. The whole ol the renuiimier of the jmlf^MU'iit relates to {hiiit v. /'/it- (.hdi'fi^ and (he learned Jiid^e adopts a consiriictitin of that case from whirh [ have respectfully ventured to differ, and ha^e^ on tliat ron^trviciioii hi-, view tha he is not at liherly to art on his (twn opinion. Then Mr. ju>tit-e Maclennan points out that the Act was enacted originally iiul atVecled ihei|nesiionof its v; litlity. Neither at the lime the sei.tinn wa-. Iii^t enai.tetl, tior at my time since, has there lieeri any liankruiit'.y or liisolvcin. ■ law of the Dortiiniori in forie except the \Vintliiiv;-l'p Act, whiih applie-. only to hanks and oilier in<;otpnraU'd companies, and, perhaps, some special .Ads for settlinu the alVairs nf c.^nipanies, such as Acts rt-laiinu i > the alTairs of the Hank of l!ppirr i!ariada, Tlie InsoU-enl Acts which had heeii in force in ih-* I'rovinc- con- tiiuimisly from llie time of Confederation nniil the year i38o had hee;i repe.d-.d on the isi ,\pri!, in th.it yrar, hy the Act 41 Vict., c. I. entithui ' An Act to repeal ih^ ■^' '^ respei tin; Insolvency now in force in lanada,' and the \Vin. In March, 18SS, the constitutional validity nf the Provincial Statute was raised in four cases in ihisCinirt" naming thetn. Then; " The learned Chief Justice and Mr. lustii c()-.ler were of opinion that the whr)lc Ait. except the Itrsi two -ectii-n*, was invalid, and Mr. Jn-tiie I'atterson and my hrother Hurlon were of a contrary opinion. ' Then he says the question was in one case reserved, and he ado[)ts the opinion that the section is valid. Then he says : "The (luestii)n depends on the sense in whii h the wortls * llankruptcy and Insolvency ' are used in th" !'. N. A. Act, see- titin i;i. et'-. (readuii; to the wonis at pa^e 7, line j'*). ' If the I.eyislatur** 'an aholish priority lieiween an execulicpn creditor and i:reditors who have no executions, so that the latter sliall stand nn an i,4i::>Mty with the former.' I s.-^^ agair) ilie efTect of the Act of 18S0 was more wide than the phrase in that jud^^ment appeals to indicate. Iftheone is not Hankriiptcy ami Insolvency legislation, I am unable to see whv the other should he so regarded. It is merely the eftect am! <)p»rration o' an execution which ha.s been alteri-d by the legislation in each case. IJnt I incline to the opinion that, except sD far as the Uomininn chooses, from time to time, to occnpv the neld o* Mankrupt'-y nnd Insolvency legislation, the Province may occupy it. I think that follows from the manner in which their respective powers iirc defined by sections 91 and 02 of the W. N.A, Act. In tlie Citizen/ /fnuramf Co. v. /Vi'- sittis, 7 .\]i\}. Cas. no, it wasdecided liy the judicial Conimilteft that the phrase ' v»roperty and civil rights in (he Pruvince' empIoy.;d in No. 13, .section >2. included rights in the Province; employed in No. i ^, seciion )j2, included rights arising out of contracts, and, tliere'ore, those words emlirace tlie whole law of debtor and creditor. Wliat the Act does, then, is to give the whole fiele passed hy the Provincial Legislature. Mk. Hi.akk : Probably his view goes (hat far; but whih,' suggesting the same coi einions, I have i)resented also and mainly a narrower view on which I am content to rest. {.■Ii//o/frf/fi//or ii short timt'.) Mr. liLAKK : I was troubling your Lordships with the judgment of .Mr. Justice .Maclennan. ** Itnl, a[>art from legislation, Hankru^itcy and Insolvency is not dffin.dile. .Apart from legistalirn tltere is no such thing as l'ankrnpt< y or Insolvency. ParliatnerU rniy pass .Acts ol that t liaructrr, an ' when it does ifie snbjfct is defined, and we cm see what it is. Whatever part of the field of property and civil rights it ociupiesfor that purjKJse is taken away from the Province, but no more. So far as any such .Act extends, the law of the Province must yield, and is overborne ; but, Itt-yond that, it is the power and duty of the Province to care for the public interest, ruid lo enact and enfonx- proper laws in lelation to property and civil rights. Ilankiupt and Insolvent laws are not a ne' essily, are not an essential part of every system of iurisprude' e or of goveri merit. There may *)r may not ijc such laws. If Parliament thinks fit to have stich laws, it h:i« he exclusive power to enact tliurn, hut it is not oblig.Uory ; and if there be no such law, it is s(il] necessary that there he some lawof debtni and creditor, and that subject is expressly given ttt the Province. There was no such thing as liankruptcv or Insolvency at the Common I. aw. There was no disliiictioii between the fraudulent or insolvent debtor and any odier del)tor who .lifi not pay his creditors. There was tlie same remedy again>-t all, by action, jndgnieru. ami txecution, ami alt debtors alike were field bound until full pa;, nient. it.uik- rupli:y and InsoUeni >■, theref >rr', are wholly the creation of legislatitJii, and without legislatioti they do iiot and (annot exist. The impossibility of defiiung Pankruiitcy in the ab- stract, ami apart from legislatitjn, i^ api)arcnt from tlit? history of the subject. The first Mankrupl; :y .Act iri Kngland was tiie Act 34 iS; ^s, H. "!. chapter 4, in the year 154J, ami between that time ami the passing of the Act '.^4 iV 25 Vict., chapter 114, which was in f.irce when the M.N..A. .Act was passed, a very large nu'iiber of such Acts was passed, changing the chara^ ter of the legislation from time to time. The Acts whii h w ere passed prior to 18 m ^^i!' '" found /// t-xtinso in the 1st \ol. of the 8ih edition of Cook on lJ.tnkruptc>' ( i 8 z i)> iind an ex.iinina- tion of them v ill show how the definition of the subjec* changed from lime to time with the legislation. I'hat change is shown striki'jgly by a com[>arison between the .Act of H. 8 ant, whether they were r>r weri.' not possessed of sufiicient property to p:iy their deliis in full, u ere made subject to iIil' law in case they had commit ltd cert.'iin defined ai:ls or defaults, The-e acts or delaiills ate enumerated at page 1 -'7 of Uoria and McKae on Hankruptcv (i860. <'nid some of ihem are the following; non-payment after judgment liebtor sunimons hy either trader or non-trach:r : sutTering e\^*cution to lie levied on anyo' his goodsand chattels for any debt exceeding L-,o by a tradtir ; and non-tiaymeiit within seven days by a trader, and within two months hy a non-trailer, ;ifter decree or order peremptory in eipiity, bank- ruptcy, or !unai:y. Prior to the Act of 1861, and as far back as the I }th Kli/abeth, the law was confined to traders ; as to all oiht-r persons, there v\as no s\ich law. The hisony of the subject in this country shows the same variety in Hankruptcy legislation. In the Provinces of Ontario and Quebec, there had l)ern a Hankrupt .Act in force, more or less, from 1843 10 1856, when it expired " — therefore, your Lordship sees that there was, in the early days of the (^)ueen, a Hankruptcy Act — fr< m 1843 *" 1856. Then the learnetl Judge says the Act was called a Hankrupt Act — " after which there was none until 1864. The Art of that year was called 'The Insolvent Act of 1864,' and, although calktl an Insolvent .Act, it was in reality a Hankrupt Act, and it was made applicable in Lower Canada to traders only ; but in Upper Canada lo all persons, whether traders or not. This is the Act which was in force in Ontario and Quebec when the H.N.A. Act was passed, and while it was undoubtedly, in its nature, a Bankruptcy Act, it differed in many respects from the English Act. I do not know what, if any, Bankruptcy or •j:» Insolvency laws exintetl nt tlnit time iti any of tl\p other Provinces ofthc Dominion." I have iitated to ycmr Lordships ihat ihcrt* were none nt all. " The At-i of 1864 was repfuletl in i6<'i>, and a new Act was passeil, extendi!.,; to the wholr I >uiiiitiii)ii. called ' The Insolvent Act of i^fii).' It was (:onfiiie> was le-enaiMed with c:on'i;'r,rahle alteralinns in I'l/s. and was still confnied to traders. This law continued in foireimid 1 S lu, when it was repealed, and since that time (here has iit*eu no Ilomiiiion law of Itankrnplcy or Insolvency, except as already stated, the Winding-up Act, whii h is contined UMiorp.. rations, and pi-rhaps some spcrial arts relalini; to particular casrs, such as the Itauk of Tpper Canada Act. What I nn-an is that there has n »t heeu since that tune, and there is not now, any neneral law of the hominion lakirii; up or luinpyini; any certain part or seclitiu of the law of deliior and cr.Miiior for its operation as a law uf Hankruptcy and Insolvency. While there wj's sUch a l>lvency which Parliament hail appronrialed to itself. All without these linnts wtitch concerned the same relation was left t'l the Leiiislatnre of the Pr'pvince, as beiny a part of property ami civil rinhis. While the Act was in fon e it seems clear the Ptovince cutdd ileal with ;inylbitiii outsit. • of it, anil when it was repealed I think the whole field was left to the Province." Thi'rt'f')re ci)nfiru..iiR the rcniarUs of Lord Watson lh.1t his Lordship takes a very wide view. " I think, therefore, that the Iru*: solution is that Parliament may pas-4 laws ot Itankrnptcy aiid Insuh'-ncy, and mav theroby define the nature and exlenl i»f its interfcreiu c vvilb the law of the Province for that pur pose,' etc., etc. (Keailint* to the words on line (o, paKeii.) '' I^nbject In be o\ erhorne and displaced if and whenever the Dominion, nt the exercise i)*" its jiuisdiclion, shotdd think fit to make other provisions. " These citations close the ar^itnienl which I have to address to your Lordships, I /u fi^miuf i/t'/irm:/ 3 fth /ui'ruary, /^'o/, hy the /.orj ChaUifi/i^r.\ This appeal is presented by the .\ltorney-Cleneral of (yntario nqaiiist a liecisiou of the Court <'>i Appeal of that province. The decision con)plained of w.is an answer t;iven to a tpiestion referred to that Court by the l.ieutenani-dovernor of the province in pursuance of an Order in Council, The (|uesUnn was as fullows : — *'Had the Legislature of Ontario jnritdiction to enact the oth section of the Kevist^d Statutes of Ontario, chapter 1^4. and entitled '.\n Act respecting Assignments and Pretercnc :s by Insolvent Persons'?" The maj »rity of the Court answered lids c, ;»-tion in the negative ; but one of the Judges who formed th:; m.ijority only concurred with his brethren becausu he thought the case was i^overried by a previous decision of the same Court ; had he ctmsidered the matter /rx /'nfixra he would have ilecidetl the other way. The Court was thus equally divided in opinion. It is not contesteil that tiu* en.actmenl. the validity of whicli is in (piestion, is within the legislative powers conferred on the Provincial l.egislaiure by section 92 of the Itritish North America Act, iS')?, which enables that legislature to make laws in relation to propt^rty and civil rights in the pr,)vince unless it is withdrawn from their lei;islative competency by the provisions of the 91st section of tbat Act, which confers upon the Dominion Parliament the exclusive power of legislatim with reference to bankruptcy and insolvency. The point to be defernnned, therefore, is the meanitig of those words in section gi of the Uritisli North Ameiica Act, !S67, and whether they render the enactment impeached tt/tra T'ires of the Provincial Legislature. That enactment is section y of the Revised Statutes of Ontario of 1887, c. 124, entitled ".An Act respecting Assignments and Preferences by Insolvent Persons." The section is as follows : — '*An assiginuent for the general Itenetit of creditors under this Act shall take precedence of all judgments an 1 of all executions not completely executed by payment, subject to the lien, if any, of an execution creditor fur Ins josts, where there is but one execution in the sheritf's hands, or to the lien, if any, of the creditor for his costs, who has the first execution in the sheritT's hands." In order to understand the elTect of this enactment it is necessary to have recourse toother sections of the Act* to see what is meant by the words "an assignment for theg assignment for the general benetii of creditors wld' b is not voi'! under section two hut is not made to the sh- ifl" nor to any (^ihcr ptrson with the prescribed consent ot the ( rcuiio'-s slia'.i be void as a^.'iinsi a subsequent assiijnmeni which is in lontormity wiih the At;t, and shall \>(: sid)ject in other respects to the pro\isioiis of the Act, until and unless a subsecpient assignment is executed in accordance therewith. The fifth subsection states the nature of the consent of the creditors which is requisite for as.iunment in the first instance to some pe'son other than the -^heritV. Tbeso are the only sections to which it is necessary tu refer in order to explain the meaning uf section nine. Ilefore discussing the efTcct of the enactments to which attentiuu has been called, it 'y'U be convenient to glance at the course of legislat' -u in relation to this and connate matters both in tlie P-ovince and in the Dominion. I he enaciinents of the first and second sections of the Act of 1S87 are to be found in sul)stancc in sections iS and i^i of the Act of the Provim:e of Canada passed in 1858 for the oetter prevention of fraiul. Tliere is .1 pro\iso to the latter section \\hich excepts from its operation any assignment made for the purpose of paying all the creditors of the debtor ralalily without preference. These provisions were repeated in the Kevisetl Statutes o! Ontario, 1877, c. ii3. A slight amendment was made by the Act of 1384, and it was as thus amended that tbev were re-enacted in 1887. .\t the time when the Statute of 185S was passed there was no Hankruptcy law in force i.i the i*rovince of Canada. In the year 1864 an .Act respecting insolvency was enacted. It applied in Lower Canada to traders only ; in Upper Canada to all persons whether traders or non-traders. It provided that a debtor should be deemed insolvent and his estate should become subject to compulsory liquidation if he committed certain acts similar to those which had for a long period been made acts of bankruptcy in this country. Among these .icts were the assignment or the procuring of his property to l)e seized in execution with intent to defeat or delay his creditors, and also a general assignment of his ))roperty Cor the benefit of his creditors otherwise than in manner provided by the St.atute. A person who was unable to meet his engagements might avoid compulsory li(piidation by making an assignment of Ids » state in the manner provided by that Act; bjt unless he inade such an assignment within the lime liinif.cd the litpiidation became compulsory. This Act was in operation at the time whcji the Hritish North America Act came into force. In 1869 the Dominion Parliament passed an Insolvency Act which proceeded on much the same linfs as the Provincial Act of 1864, but applied to traders only. This .\ct was repealed by a new Ii. solvency Act of 1^75, which, after being twict amended, was, together with the Amending Acts, repealed in 1 8 80. In 1887, the same year in which the Act under consideration was passed, the Provincial Legislature abolished priority amongst creditors by an execution in the High Court and County Court*;, and provided for the distribution of any moneys levied on an execution ratably amongst all execution creditors, and all other creditors who within a month delivered 24 to the sheriff writs aiui certificates nhtained in the manner jiro\ ideii for by that Act. Their I.oniship'' proceed now to consider the nature of the enactment said to he ultra vires. 1 1 postpones jud)irnents and exe.:iitions ncl completely executed I>y payment to an assign- ment fnr the Ijenefit of creditors under the Act. Now there can l)e no iioul)t that the etVect to l)e i^iven to judiimerits and executions and the manner and extent to which ihey may he made availal)le for the recovery f debts are />rin/^ /''('V within the leijishuive pi>w*trs of ilie Provincial Parhament. K.xfcutions are a part of the iriachinery by which debts are recovered, and are subject t<> rej^ulation by tliat i'arUament, A creditor has no inlierent rii^ht to have his debt satislietl by means of a levy by tlie sheriff, or toany priority in respect of such levy. '!'he execution is a mere creature of the law which may deteinune and rei;idate the ri,i»his to which it i;ives ri'-e The Act nf i-j-l; which abolished priority as amonu^^t execution C'.L'ditors provided a simple mt'ans by which every creditor miiilu obtain a share in the distribution of moneys ie. ied luider an execution Ity any particular creditor. The other Act of the same year, containing the sectit)n w hich is impeacheil, i^oes a step further and gives t<» all creditors under an assignment for their general benelu a right to a ratable sliare of the assets of the debtor, including those which have been seized in execution. i'ut it is argicd that inasnuich as this assignment con- templates the insolvency of the debtor, and wotdd only be made if he were insolvent, such a provision purports to deal with insolvency and therefore is a matter exclusively within the jurisdiction of the Dominion Parliament. Now it is to be u!'>>-'rved that an assignment for the general benefit of creditors lia-> long been known to tiie jurisprudence of this country and also of Canada, and has its force and effect at common law quite independently of any system of bankruptcy or insolvency, or any legislation relating thereto. So far from being regarded as an essential part of the bankruptcy law, such an assignment was made an act of bankruptcy on which ai: adjudication might be founded, and by the law of the Province 'f Canada which prevailed at the time when the Dominion Act was p.assed, it was one of the grounds for an adjudication of iuMjlvency. It is to be observed that the word ''bankruptcy" was apparently not used in Canadian legislation, but the insolvency law of the I'rovince of Canaila was precisely analogous to what was known in Kngland as the bankruptcy law. Moreover, the oper.ition of an assignment for the benefit o' creditors was precisely the ;ame, whether the assignor was or was not in fact insolvent. It was open lo any debtor who might deem his solvency doubtful, and who desired in that ca^e that hi- creditors should bt eipiitably dealt with, tc^ make an assignment fjr their benefit. The validity of the assign- ment and \y^ etVect would in no way depend itn tie insolvency of the as-.ignor, and their Lnrdstups think it clear that the ninth section would equally apply whether the asignor was or was not insolvent. Stress was hud on the fact tl'.it the enact- ment relates only to an assignment under the Act contaitung tlie section, and that the Act prescribes that the sheriff of the c .'unty is to be the a«;signee unless a majority of the creditors cin^enl to some other assignee being uauied. This dites not appear to their Lordships to l)e material. If the enactment would have been intni 7/r,s, supposing sec'ion nine had ajiplied to all assigimients witbo-.it these restrictions, it seems ditficult to contend tliat* it became ////ni 7'irt's by reason of them. Moreover, it is to be t)l)served that by subsection (2) i.f section 1, assignments for tlie benefit of creditors not made to the sheriff or toother persons with the prescriljed consent, although they are rendered void as against ai'Signments so made, are neveitheless, uidess and until so avoided, to be " subject in other respects to the provisions " of the Act. .-\t the time when the Itritish North America Act was passed bankruptcy and iustdvency legislation existed, ami was based on very similar 'ions both in (ireat P.ritain and the Provih._v; of Can.ad; ., .jntion has already been drawn to the Canadian .Act. The I'nglish .\ct then in force was that of 1H61. That Act applied to traders and non-traders alike. Prior to that date tlie operation nf the IJaiikruptcy Acts had been confined to traders. The statutes relating to insolvent debtors, other than traders, !iad lieen de->igned to provide for tlieir release from custody on their making an assignment of the whole i>f their estate for the benetit of their creditors. It is not necessr'.ry to refer in detail to the provisions of the Act of i36i. It is enough to say that it provided for a legal adjudication in bankruptcy, with the coiisee within the legislative competence of the Provincial Legislature. Their Lordships do not doubt that it would be open to the Dominion Parliament to deal with su ;h matters as part of a bankruptcy law, and the Provincial L-gislature would doubt- less be then precluded from ' •.*.erfer"iig with this legislation, inasmuch as such interference .vould affect the bankruptcy law of the Dominion I'arliament. Hut it does not follow that such subjects, as might properly be t eated as ancillary to such a law and therefore within the pcwers 'f the D(jminiou Parliament, are excluded from the legislative authority of the Provincial Legislature when there is no bankruptcy or insolvency legislation of the DuminiiHi Parliament in existence. Their Lordships will therefore huml)ly advice Her Majesty tliat the ilecision of the Court of Appeal ought to be reversed, and that the question <)ught to be answere., in the atVirmative. The parties will bear their own costs of this appeal. I ■ \ /