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S^&*-'^''MWS2''' i>' .^S^^'ilsi™' j-'i i.:^.' V ■■;■ .^m^'^^^'^'^i J ■■'mmm !?■ 53566 f^JfysryiijrjRprsis^S^cp^ I 4 PREFATORY NOTE. M I N view of the important matters coming before the Board of Missions at its recent «E ~ session, especially in relation to Japan, an official stenographer was employed to take a verbatim report of the evidence and discussions. The report is published under authority of the following resolution, passed by the General Board: — "Moved by Rev. A. Sutherland, seconded by W, H. Lambly, and "RESOLVED, — That the General Superintendent, Rev. Isaac Tovell, J. /. Maclaren, "Esq., and Rev. A. Lang ford, in association with the General Secretary, be a Committee "to edit the Stenographer's Report for publication, with power to decide as to mode of "publication." In accordance with the foregoing resolution, the Committee carefully revised the Stenographer's Report, and now p int it substantially as it was taken, eliminating only repetitions, and remarks or discussions that had no direct bearing on the subject, but retaining everything relevant to the question in hand. Toronto, November, 1895. A. CARMAN ISAAC TOVELL J. J. MACLAREN A. LANGFORD A. SUTHERLAND Editing Committee. ^' ■■& *^-*!*^^«-'- --*#*■' i'i^^^^f '$ HMdtm ^f^ff^^mmi* '19: ?t.- W % ^ >i I i ;<■'* .,**' !'jrt»»i»rt#iMiW yKgSiiTBMtr „> J. I ,'./: liJ'%, M !|: -jyjf^j^i.y^'l?^ ■_"'i REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS OF THE GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS OF THE METHODIST CHURCH, RESPECTING JAPAN AFFAIRS, AT THE MEETING HELD IN MONTREAL, OCTOBER ird to \Uh, 1895. [Note. — This Report refers solely to the affairs of the Japan Mission. Other proceedings of the Board have been published elsewhere. Wherever any page of the Secretary's Review is referred to in the discussions, the figures at the bottom of the page of said Review are to be taken instead of the paging at the top.] The General Board of Missions assembled in the parlors of St. James' Methodist Church, Montreal, on Thursday, October 3rd, 1895, at 9.30 a.m., and the session was oiiened with appropriate religious exercises. The Rev. Albert Carman, D.D., occupied the chair. The roll being called, nineteen ministers and eleven lay- men answered to their names. At a subsequent stage it was found that all the members of the Board, save two, were present. The General Secretary informed the Board that on the I St instant he received a cable message from Japan, stating that the Rev. F. A. Cassidy had been elected to the Board, presumably by the Japan Mission Council. The question of Mr. Cassidy's right to a seat on the Board was referred to a committee consisting of Revs. \Vm. Briggs, S. F. Huestis, A. I^ngford, Hon. J. C. Aikins, and J. R. Inch, LL.D. Subsequently the Committee reported that "the right of Mr. Cassidy to take his seat at this Board depends upon his being at present a member of the Mission Council of Japan." A lengthy conversation ensued, and it was ultimately ruled by the Chair that under the Discipline Mr. Cassidy was not a member of the Japan Mission Council, and, con- sequently, was not entitled to a seat on the Board of Missions. After certain routine business had been disposed of, the Board resolved itself into Committee of the Whole on Japan affairs, Rev. Dr. Carman in the chair, and Revs. T. G. Williams, E. B. Ryckman, and Mr. W. H. Lambly, secretaries. From this point the stenographer took a full report of the proceedings. The Chair announced the Order of the Day. Dr. Potts — I think it would be well for the Board to know what the Chairman and General Secretary intend as to the time when these Japan affairs will be brought before the General Board of Missions. I think it is of the utmost importance that they should come on very early, while our laymen and others are here in full force. I think it would be well to know from the Chair and General Secretary what the policy is. Dr. SUTHERI.AND— As for that I am not aware that the Chair and Secretary have any policy, apart from this Board. It is for this Board to say when these things shall be taken up. My own judgment is that the Japan matters should come up at the earliest possible moment. I do not know that there is anything that need detain us now, unless it were to hear the financial statement from the General Treasurer, as that will bu submitted at the public meeting to-night ; but that will take but a very few minutes. My own opinion would be that perhaps almost immediately after that, the Japan matter might be taken up, and that there be an opportunity given at once for the returned missionaries. Dr. Eby and Mr. Cassidy, to make to this Board any state- ments they desire. The Board resumed ; the Hon. J. C. Aikin' read the Financial Statement, and some routine business was transacted. Un motion the Board again resolved itself into Com- mittee of the Whole on Japan affairs. Dr. Carman in the chair. Dr. PoiTs — Can the Chair give us an idea of what is likely to come before the Committee or the Board upon this whole Japan question ? Where shall we begin, and what shall be the order ? The Chairman — I do not know that the Chair would undertake to say what should be the order, or where we should begin ; but I will say calmly what has been in my mind as to a modus operandi for some time past. Of course you will see from the Minutes that were read this morning that your Executive, and all connected therewith, had, like the other members of the Board, and a great many through the country, hoped that this matter would settle itself, would calm down, and to that end there of course was something of a policy of delay. But I think perhaps the conviction has grown upon us of late, I will say it has grown upon me anyway, that it seems to be necessary, in order to come fully at this matter, that we do just what a. business house would do. If a business house had foreign agencies, and trouble had arisen in the foreign agencies, why that house would probably call home from the foreign agencies the representatives of the house, and would bring the representatives of the house before the house itself, and would say in the proper way, " Now, we want things explained." I think that house would take something like this course. It would simply hold a meeting with its representatives, it would not allow in the public, and it would say, " Now, we want frankness in this matter. You have been our agents there." And very likely the house would be able to commend the diligence and fidelity of the agents, and to say many things truly of the excellence of their service, and yet, for some reason or other, some difficulties had arisen. Now, we onftRAi* BOAio Of imnoNs. im. I want jfou, u inierMted in tht common welfare, to make a frank •utemant, and make it before ut, and make it in the hearing one of the other, lo that the matter ihould be before ui without prejudice. That occur* to me ai lome- thing of a proper line, and I feel like going into it with this diapoeition, that any of our brethren, or, il our tiilen come, any of them that have labored in the foreign Held, our own brethren, and our own liiten, in that way are lo be regarded with reepect and attention ; but, on the other hand, the Board muit look at this matter in something of a buiineu relationship ai well. I mean that Christian tenderness, though it be sweet, and gentle, and kindly one toward another, mus: not interfere with our reachmg the facts in the case, and it should not interfere with their stating the facts. They should have no hesitancy in stating to the Board all the facts in their possession. We know that theru have been some difficulties, but just where any lines of division will take place, may not l)e settled. If we proceed on the line I suggest, we will have candid scate- mento, one in the hearing of the other, and in confidence. We have made our arrangements for the public, we have appointed a Committee oif the Board to give to our own people a report that may be proper ; we have a stenographer who is to give us the whole matter ; we will have whatever may be necessary for the public press. I feel the necessity, myself, of going at it in something like that way ; and then, on thii suggestion made by Dr. Fotts, I feel it important that we do lay out something of a line. I think perhaps suggeitions should come trom some of the members of the Board upon the matter. I would like to know what may be in their own minds. This matter is outside of any pre- scribed business order. Some of you may have much better lines of thought in regard to procedure than I. I think we ought to have a little preliminary conversation over the matter. It would ot:cur to me that as we are here to investigate theie Japan matterH from beginning to end, in the fear of God, with earnestness and with fidelity, with fearlessness and with faith in God, we cannot justify our- selves in going to the people, after this Board Meeting, with any quasi or half-settled pretensions ; we must, by the help of the Lord, find as solid ground as may be found. Perhaps our dear brothers and sisters will be of one mind with us in the matter. Perhaps it is a proper way that both parties, if there be parties, be allowed to take their own course. The Board must give it time. We must go into it with all patience. We are not to ^et nervous over it. Perhaps it would be as good a way as any, to allow either to begin ; allow the missionaries that are here to state their own story from beginning to end, and then let us ask questions. I would like to mention another point that may be brought out in conversation with the brethren. It seems to me it would have helped matters somewhat if there had been a contemporaneous session of the two Boards, the Woman's Missionary Board and our own. I had thought of that and feel the necessity of it. I do not know what authority we conceive ourselves to have to call witnesses from the Woman's Executive. We certainly do not control their officers. Everything that they may present would, in that matter, l)e voluntary. You will see, as to our own brethren, there is a legal sense in which their connection with the mission itself may have terminated, and these matters ought to be before the Board. Of course, if all witnesses present are ready, without any special coercion, or any official interference, to give us the full facts, why we may arrive at the best of an understanding ; but we cannot do it on reservation ; and, personally, I would prefer that any witnesses from the Woman's Missionary Society should be here with the entire concurrence and under the authority of their society, as far as they may give authority. These are general thoughts that have been in my mind. You will see what they indicate. I think we ought to hear the whole matter from both Societies, from top to bottom and from beginning to end. Secondly, I think we ought, here in Committee of the Whole, to understand that this ought to be a matter of confidence amon); us ; that these brothers and sisters feel that their statements are l>efore a body that they can address in the utmost confidence ; because if we have been correctly informed there have been some tnatten that they would not want, and we would not want, the fMenl public to know. They are not Uv; pro-' petty of the geiMrtl public. Lookini at it on the side, il a businass hotisa were invead|ftiin| inch a between agents, they would not allow It to go to the pubHc, and could not allow it to go to the public. Our dear Mopla through the country must have some conAdence In the Hoard as appointed by the (ieneral ConforetKe to do these things. Now you have my view. I would not fetter these dear people as to the order. Dr. Potts— Would it be possible to have the Executive of the Wotnan's Miuionary Society called in Montreal be- fore we adjourn. If there has been authority to invite the agents of the Woman's Missionary Society, it seems to me there inijht have t)een eijual authority for calling the Executive of that Society. The Chairman— I think now perhaps a statement from the (ieneral Secretary of the facts up to date, without enter- ing at all into the controversy of the present position of the matter, and any suggestions he has to make, would be in order. Let us have the facts as to the line of procedure. Dr. Sutherlanu— It was by action of our Executive Committee that we were authorised to bring here what evidence we could, either In the way of documents, or of persons that could give information with regard to these Japan affairs. In following out these instructions, several of the returned lady missionaries, that is, agents of the Woman's Missionary Society from Japan, were invited to come, and they have resiMnded to that invitation. I sup- pose if the Woman's Missionary Society had some matter, say, touching Japan, upon which they wanted information, they would never have thought of asking my permission, or Dr. Carman's either, to invite some of our missionaries who might be in this country to come and meet them and tell them what they knew. .\nd so we did not ask the per- mission of the U'oman's Society to ask the returned lady missionaries to come here, although they were kept informed of what was Iteing done. I also com- municated with the Secretary of the Woman's Society — I confess at a somewhat late date, because I did not feel as though I had authority in the case to invite them here without instructions from the Committee or the Board,— I communicated at a somewhat late date, saying that it was decidedly my own judgment, and I thought it was the judgment of the other members of the Board, that it would l>e very desirable that at least the President and Secretary of the Woman's Society should l)e present at our Board session, and that as sian. The ladies asked us to recon- sider the former action of our Executive. The Executive replied that they did not see their way to do that at present, but they would send on the iwpers, etc., to the General Board. At one meeting of our Committee Dr. Eby desired to make a statement- -in the nature of an historical statement, if I remember the thing correctly, —that might cover a considerable |>eriod, going back I believe as far as 188K. It was suggested by some of the members that this Board was the pro(>cr place to make a statement of that kind. That if any wrong had tieen done, and required remedying, this Board alone could do it, and to that Dr. Kby agreed — that he would come and make his statement to this Board. Then, we know as a simple matter of fact that .Mr. Cassidy objects strongly to the action taken by the Executive in deciding that he should not return to Japan. I am assuming, therefore, that he will desire to make a statement to this Board along those lines. And it seems to me the simplest way would now be to gjve an opportunity to these brethren to make such statements as they desire, touching their relation to the Japan work, 'and the difficulties with which they may feel themselves to be more or less concerned. Then, after those state- ments are made, the Board will see its way to do what is desirable. Da. Potts— Is it a fwl that Mrs. Goodarhim and Mit^ PitOOtBOllfOA Air JAFAN Aff AI1I8. '^. StoMhan w* in tiw ciiy ? Sormoim told mc icMUy that Ihn wart. If m, I think thay ibould h't prmeni. i)t. SUTHMLANU— It seemi that Mr*. (;ouderham ha* •knilM h«r intention uf being in the city today. Whatlltr the ii here now or not I cannot My. Mr. RoBiNnoN— We ought to linow what wc are called toguther for. I do not think anyone should be called here without letting them know what they are called for. Thb CHAiRMAN~Uid you hear the Minutes read this morning ? Mr. R0HIN8ON — We did not really hear the (rouble. The trouble mentioned in those Minutes would not be any cause for their being recalled. Thk Chairman — You heard that there was (rouble there. Dr. Sutherlanh— It will all come out. Mr. Robinson — I think it very strange to recall missionari;:s without letting it be known what (hey are recalled for. That is the strangest course I have ever heard of. If we have a man working for us on the road we tell him if he does not do better we will discharge him, it there is anything wron^. The Chairman— I think we let them know at the time, brother. Mr. Robinson— I think this Board should know it. Mr. Nixon -1 desire to make a suggestion in connection with the two brethren from Japan, namely, that they be permitted to make the one statement only, taking as long a time as they desire, and as full as it can be made. I do not want to shut them off. Mr. LANuroRD— I think that would be unfortunate. It They If a serious matter. The Chairman — Oh, we will not shut them off. must have a full chance. Dr. Potts — It seems to me we should not touch the Japan question without Mrs. Gooderham and Mrs. Strachan being present. They have come for the purpose. They will influence the Woman's Society very largely, and I think they should hear every sentence uttered on the Japan matter. Dr. T. G. Williams — I am not sure that these ladien are in the city. The Rev. Dr. Hunter says he Iwlieves they are here, and he will take steps to ascertain in a tew minutes whetlier they are really in the city. I think we all agree with the words of I )r. Potts, that if these ladies have come, it is simple justice and courtesy that we wait until they are present with us, or at least give (hem the oppor- tunity of being present with us, to hear this matter from the very first syllable that is uttered on it. Mr. Torrance suggested (hat the matter be allowed to stand until morning. It was said that the ladies could not arrive to-night. The Committee of the Whole then rose and reported. The Boaid then dealt with financial matters, referring many things to committees, all of which was recorded by the Official Secretary. At 5.30 the Board adjourned, to meet again at 9 o'clock to-morrow. FRIDAY, October 4TH, 1895, 9 .a.m. On motion of Mr. J. A. M. Aikins, the Board resolved itself into Committee of the Whole, with the General Superintendent in the chair, to consider Japan affairs. The Chairman — Yesterday we talked over some pre- liminaries, and [vrhaps we had better have two or three matters understood. For instance, the degree of publicity, or of privacy, of this session of the Committee of the Whole. I pointed out yesterday that we have made provision, through a stenographer, for an official report, and further through an appointed committee for reports to the news- papers, and so far as I am concerned I understood that the press was not to be represented here by reporters. I understood it in that way. Then as to the membership of the Church, or those interested, I am not clear in my mind how far the limit shall extend. Of course all parties inter- ested, I think, should be here. As I said, personally I look upon thii as I would look on a business matter. While we are here to be governed on Christian principles, and have the niod of Christ, Making wisdom from above, on the business side of it I look upon li as a houaa, or a Oovernmeni, having to confer with lis agrils abroad, and therefore it is by no means public bUilnfts. Ok^ the bttal> ness side it is a house or Government having such wmk. For that reason it is not a matter, I should think, for pub- licity. I think we ought further to have a little under- standing upon (his point. We interrupted our session yes- terday with a view to having the attendance of the President and Secretary of the Woman's Missionary Society. The difficulty that is upon our hands has many branches. It extends in many directions. The rift is somewhat like that from the stroke of a stone upon a pane of glass. In the first place, there are difhculties between the two societies in Japan ; secondly, all is not smooth in our own society there as between the agents of the Society and (he representative of (he Board, In the third place, there is not smooth ground as between our socie(y and agents there — that is, our agents there and the Mission Rooms at home ; w> that you see this rift is not simply in one directiop. It runs in different directions. It may have one root and one cause. That will be developed, I suppose, in (he course of our con- versation ; but inasmuch as the Woman's Missionary Society is a party to some extent thereto, as I said yesterday, it did seem to me desirable (ha( there should be something au(hori- (a(ive, somebody authorized here from them, either by their Kxecutive Committee or the Board itself, so (hat conclusions may be reached and not laid over. Now, I do not know what the brethren may (ake as (he line of ac(ion. It seems to me (ha( if (he ma((er is so muUiform, the only way is to hear the |>arties fate (o face ; le( (hem hear one another, and then we may have an opportunity to ask questions, s? that the better way probably will be to hear one right through, with such interruptions as may be judicious as the party proceeds, and then another, on all the (questions — per- haps not to undertake tu separate them, because all parties will have to answer thereto. That is to say, if we go into the investigation at all, our brethren in Japan should be represented. There are six men there who are not here ; there nre returned missionaries ; there is our Office ; there are our Mission Rooms; and llierc is the IsdiM' Society. I think the better way will be to hear the statements right thruugh We should have an historical statement. You will judge then as to the propriety of cross-questioning. We will have to take our own notes. When that historical statement is presented we must do our own note-taking, so that III the end we will be able, if the matter requires sift- ing or separation, to do our own sifting. These matters occur to mL>, and for that reason I say I would like to understand this, whether the Woman's Missionary Society, and the ngents of the Woman's Missionary Society, are prepared to go with us into this matter, giving any state- ments that may be required, and that will b-j proper here — whether they are prepared to go with us into the matter, so far as their own society is concerned. Of course our own matters we settle ourselves. .\nd we have no control, so far as that goes, over agents of the Woman's Missionary Society, or over the Society itself, except we begin to apply the Disciplint in close lines, and in great stringency, which probably we do not want to do at this stage, and I do not think, therefore, I will be out of place in just asking the President of the Woman's Missionary Society whether there has been such conversation among them and understand- ing, or whether there is such authorization, as to enable us to go on with anything like a full development of this mat- ter ? Because, if we are to be foreclosed, if we proceed a certain way, we will say, with our own agents, and then are (o be foreclosed in our inquiry, and stopped when it comes to that limit, then it will be for us to reconsider our posi- sion, and see where we are, and what we can do. I will be glad to hear any opinion. Mr. Maclaren — It appeared to me that perhaps you put it a little too broadly a moment ago ; that is, regard- ing the Woman's Missionary Society. As I understand it, we would not wish to go into any inquiry except so far as it affects our own society. The Chairman — Oh, certainly not. Mr. Maclaren — We are not here to investigate the Woman's Missionary Society or its affairs. I think we ought to disclaim that. Tki Chairiun— Oh, certainly. I am obliged. % --^mtif'-*^. , .^•wer' aK»> ' M BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1898. Mr. Maclarxn— It is only so far u therr is a crossing o( lines. Mk. J. A. M. AiKiNs — I understand it is desired to know if the Woman's Missiona;7 Society are prepared to nuke a statement here, so far as it throws light on this subject, that will be binding upon the Woman's Missionary Society, or are they authorized to speak for the Woman'i Missionary Society in this one matter affecting Japan affairs ? The Chairman— We will understand that clearly, that it is only as afTecting the matters in Japan. We ais not investigating the Woman's Missionary Society. I am glad the brother has called attention to that. Now, if there is nothing else to be said, perhaps the President of the Woman's Missionary Society would be prepared to state to us just what they are ready and willing to do in the matter, and how far they will aid us in this investigation, as affect- ing the differences in Japan. Mrs. Gooderham — It was only a few days .-igo that I learned that my presence would be desirable. I will just ask the Secretary to answer your rjuestion, as she is in possession of all the information, and I am not. Mrs. STRACHAy -I cannot say that we are here by authority. There s not been a meeting of our own society, or any notirication to it, that this would be a thorough investigation. We were notified that it would he desirable to have us present, but it was merely, so far as my own impression goes, that we might be fully apprised of all the discussions and the state oi affairs. We are anxious and prepared to do all we can. If our ngents or mission- aries can be of any help, I will be quite yn\h ng to give all the information that is possible ; but, as to final action, I do not think that the President or myself can claim that. The authority has not been given to us. The Chairman — That is what we mainly required to understand just now. If the two Boards were sitting con- temporaneously, we might perhaps do something better ; but I understand the Secretary to say that all information in their possession will be available in the course of the investigation on some proper line. Then I suppose the brethren will be satisfied with that. R;;v. Mr. Huestis— I understand it has been decided that the press will be represented by parties who have l)een appointed by this Board. I wo-tld like to understand the object of not allowing the representatives of the press to be here directly. It is not that we understand there is any- thing we wish to keep back from the public. I think the reporters whom we have apfwinted to represent us would be somewhat embarrassed to know vhat they are to report and what not to report. I t ik th^re should be an understand- ing upon the matter. Because if they are to report every- thing, c.T~pting that they are better acquainted with our peculiaiities and terminology, l)eing ministers, whether it is 9 .:>d1v that, or whether you wish to suppress anything, or no'. I 'hink should be understood. ?*; . r'.vANS— I was approached by one of the reporters. ( .<•. e'j'iested me to submit the (juestion to the Chair. I .-^^'ould si'ggest that they be privileged to take down what X't r please, r.nd to submit to the Chair what should go to the j-jbi... press. Dr. SuTHKKi.ANii — I think, so fa*' as I have understood thing that the c'-j -ct of this committee on re|x>rting pro- ceedings is not to suppress. It is simply for one object, that what goes out and is published will tie accurate. (Hear, hear.) The trouble has been in getting inaccurate — "tements by snap reports, that have inflamed the minds of people, :nuj caused estrangement and trouble. VVe want to secure that what really goes to the press is what really was said or done, and not what it has been imagined was said or done. Mr. Guknkv — My ex|)erience of business meetings is that the smaller the meeting the belter for all concerned. Necessarily this meeting has a certain size. T» avoid all shadow of partisai:«hlp, to avoid all the influence of a crowd, we had better not have the crowd. I think, sir, that the purpose we have here is a purely business purpose, as much so perhaps as any business with which any of us have to deal. Then, as to the question of reporters. All the reporters that I know, in writing anything that you or I Iwve ever said, have reported the part we did not want to have reported, and have carefully withheld and (uppteued the things we thought ought to have been reported. And my judgment is, as a business man, we should not have any reporturs here whatever. There is no diipotition on the part of anyone here to suppress any material facts. We want the people to know the facts. We want to know them ourselves first, and we are quite capable of making a repre- sentation to the people of the things that we thought material in this investigation. And if, unfortunately, in the course of the discussion any of us should make, a slip, we do not want that reported as the material part. I, for instance, in speaking hastily, might utter words that were injudicious. I am quite capable of that. I have done it before and I shall do it again to the end of the chapter. I do not want men to come here and make the worst that I do the fact to be presented. Dr. Potts — What are we to understand as between the stenographic report, and the report of the committee? Do we understand, for instance, that this stenographic report will be for the use of the Guardian and Wesleyan, for the editors of those papers on the rising of this committee } Do we understand, too, that the work of this other committee is simply to meet the necessities of the press here in Mont- real ? I suppose that the stenographic report will be the property of the connexional editors ? The Chairman — Not necessarily. Dr. SUTHERI.AND — It will belong to this Board, and they may order what they want done with it. Dr. Pv-tts — The point is, that our own people must have the fullest information about the doings of this Board, and they certainly will not be satisfied with the brief reports that this other committee will make to the Montreal press. Now, does the editor of the Guardian— w\\\ Mr. Bond, of Halifax — understand that they will be able to utilize the stenographic report, and to give the information to our people all over the connexion ? JuDtiE Chesi.ey — There is one thing very evident to anyone that knows anything about stenographic reporting, that is, that U,. Wes/eyan would take a year and a half to publish what my friend a' the table yonder will be able to furnish him, assuming that the H'esteyan remains at its pres- ent size, and that we sit five or six days, with three sessions a day of three or four hours each. I have had a little experi- ence in shorthand work myself, and have furnished a few thousand pages of that sort of matter in my day. I agree with the (leneral Secretary that the intention of this committee, which is to do the work of the press here, is not to suppress anything, but to furnish in effect a brief copy, from day to day, better than the pressmen could furnish, of our proceedings, so that our people will be informed from day to day ho* we are getting along. And that then some hundreds of pages of printed matter will be furnished them latu, as time and the means at the disposal of the Board will permit ; but that the editors of our paix:rs can publish it, seems to me utterly out of the (|uestion. Dr. I'm rs- -Couldn't they have a supplement? Mr. J. A. M. AiKiNs — I would suggest that the question of the ultimate disposition of the stenogr.iphic notes be left over. We want to decide what will l)e done with the present report, and it appears to me if the reporters appointed by this committee yesterday would confer with the presiding officer here as to what would be the proper report, we can safely le.ive it in the hands of the General Superintendent and the reporters appointed. I)R. Hrii;(;s .And yet it is clear that we ought to have an understanding about this matter. The Guardian is represented by the editor himself here, who is making, I suppose, editorial notes. I think Mr. Courtice ought to know whether he can claim adijiission to the full and verbatim report of the stenographer for matters he need not take down, and so give a I'ohii fide accurate statement of some important [)oint or |)oints. If this is a matter that is to be left for consideration at a later hour, all right, but I think our connexional organs should know just where they are in this matter ; what authority they have, and what claims they can make. Mr. Hukstis — I understand that the stenographer is engaged to give us a report simply of our proceedings as far as it relates to this unfortunate tangle in Japan. He I ^:mm^'y^^^ PROOEEDINQB RE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 9 I: I does not give us a report of our proceedings apart Trom that ; that is, as I understand it. Now, that is only part of our business, and that certainly will not be ready for the press — for the Guardian or Wtsleyan — for some time. We ought to have a report of our proceedings for these papers very soon, that is, the ordinary proceedings of the Board. We are not in a position to have our editor here. I wish he were here. We have no reporter here to represent us. I shall suggest to the editor that he avail himself of the report as made by the brethren who have been appointed by this Board in the general way of its proceedings. I think that is about all that we can do, and then, if this stenographic report is available hereafter, such portions of it as the editors may see fit to print will be dealt with. Dr Sutherlani" — I wish to suggest, in a most respect- ful way, that we are wasting precious time. This Board is quite competent to order, at any stage afterwards, what is to be done with this stenugraphic report, and any member of the Board can move at any suitable time what shall be done with it. The present stage is not the time to settle what you are going to do with that report. Mr. J. A. M. AiKiNS — I would move that the represen- tatives of the connexional pa{>ers be allowed to be present and report what they think proper. This was seconded by Judge Chesley. Mr. Maclaren — I have some doubt as to whether that is the proper action just at this stage and in this matter. We are a Board and a Committee. Every Board and every Committee requires ntcessarily to have privacy, and in con- nection with some of these matters, if we are going to do our duty to the Church and to do the duty which the Church expects of us, there will be things said and done that would not he suitable to be reported and sent broad- cast over the country. There are interests to be guarded, and there are matters that will have to be discussed. I do not think that we can do the work which the Church appointed us to do, if we are going to do the whole of that work in public. Remarks will come out inadvertently, and perhaps be corrected afterwards, and yet serious injury might b-^ done to individuals before such a correction could be made. I think we are practically in the same position as any Board of a company — the board of one of the banks in this city, for instance. No such Board would think of throwing its Board meetings open to the public. They have the interests of the shareholders, practically the same as our interests are to the Church, and I think when the Church appointed us as a Hoard to dispose of this m:ttter, they expected we would use at leist as much judgment as the children of this world use in connection with other matters. It would be fatal to the efficiency of any institution, it would be fatal to th.-:: interests of this Church, if we come here and can only say and do those things that are proper to be sent broadcast over the country. So that I think this question will have to be dealt with in that manner, and I think the proper time is now. I was not here when the committee was appointed, but I think the very fact of the appointment of these brethren was with the idea that they would use such judgment in the matter as would prevent injury such as I have referred to. I think it is necessary to guard that point, and I think it should be clearly understood that it is not a public meeting; that any members of the Church who are here, are here really on the understanding that matters which ought not to be disclosed are matters which are said in confidence, and are not \o be sent broadcast over the country. Mr. AiKiNs — Might I add this, "subject to the super- vision of the (leneral Superintendent"? Mr. Maclaren — That is satisfactoiy. Dr. Kvans — And will that motion prevent the commit- tee being appointed ? TuK Chairman — Certainly not. It gives the editors or managers of the lonnex'onal journals a footing on the floor. (Motion carried.) The Chairman Now, I suppose the brethre, appointed yesterday will understand that they are to gi.^ as full a report as may be allowable, but certainly accurate. You will have to be your own judges as to the extent of it. We must also have this consideration before our minds, — this certainly is not a public meeting. It cannot be made a public meeting. If we undertake to do that we will defeat our purpose. The people we want to have deal with it will not say what they ought to say, they will not disclose. There is no use of going into this matter unless there is the utmost openness and frankness and clearness from top to bottom. There must be Christian candor to the full, and Christian candor to the full must not be abused ; where- fore It ought to be the privilege and is the privilege of any member of the Board, at any time, to call attention to the presence of parties that may not be helpful to the securing of our objects. The great commission we have under heaven is to get a clear, full, and proper statement of this matter, and then, in the name of God, and by the aid of the Holy Ghost, to come to a proper decision. Mr. Aikins— I wouici suggest that during the time the persons will be called upon to make their statements, that they do not be interrupted, but that any questions that may suggest themselves to the members of the Board, as they proceed, be put aft jr they get through their statements. It will facilitate matters much. The Chairman— I think that will be better. Now, I suppose we are prepared to proceed. As to the order of call, of course all parties interested will have to have an opportunity, and should have an opportunity to the full. The returned missionaries, and the missicnaries in Japan, so far as they may be represented through them, the Woman's Missionary Society, and our own Mission Rooms — it lays itself out thus in my mind. I am ready for suggestions, but it would seem to me feasible that per- haps the oldest of the returned mis.sionaries should give his statement first. Mr. Gurnev — It seems to me that inasmuch as the fact that the last communication from the missionaries in Japan may be a solution of the whole question, that that com- munication should be read Dr. Sutherland — I .suppose that that communication will touch only the one point — their request fi,r recall. It cannot touch any other point but that. The Chairman — Well, let it be read. Dr. Sutherland — That will come in connection with one of the statements made to this Board, and it will save time if the letter is allowed to be read then. 'I'Hic Chairman — The demand is now. Dr. SuTHKRLANi) — Very well. The Hon. Mr. Aikins — I think every member of the Hoard has a copy of it in his hand. Dk. Potts — That is not the last letter. Hon. Mr. Aikins — This is dated September nth. I suppose that is the las.. Dr. Sutherland — It seems there is no need to read this. It has been printed, and everybody has a copy. The Chairman— Very well, if this is thedoi;ument, take it as re.id for the present. (This was assented to by the Committee.) The CHAiRMAt'— Well, from whom will you hear first on this matter ? Mr. Torrance — I see around me a number of the ministers of the city. Some of them seem to have a feel- ing that they are not wanted here. I know, from some remarks that have been dropped, that some of them feel that their presence here is out of place. It would be just as well to have an understanding. The Chairman — It has been our usage, in all our Hoards, that our ministers attend. They are responsible, and if they go out and circulate false reports, they are amenable to the Discipline of the Church. Dr. Evank — I would suggest that the three city minis- ters adjacent to the door, the Rev. Dr. Hunter, Dr. Rose, and our friend there, be tylers to the door, so that reporters may not be admitted. The Chairman — Then 1 will call to our assistance the kind aid of these brethren. Our brethren throughout the city are welcome as interested men. It is always our cus- tom, in all Boards, to admit them. Now, shall I call upon the senior missionary ? ( Hear, hear.) Will Brother Eby begin, and give us a full statement? Rev. Dr. Ebv — Mr. Chairman, I would not • ish to make any suggestion to the Board that would seem like expressing any opinion that I should not, but my own im- p.ession is that I ought hardly to have been called upon at this juncture to make a statement. At the same time, I 'A m ^ -x m \) .**vS5^1tf yiM^- 10 0EN3RAL BOABD or MISSIONS, 1895. iC will at least say enough to let the brethren see the angle of vision from which, as an individual, I look at the case. Before I go on, however, I may just say that Mr. Cassidy would have been here only that he is suffering with an ulcerated jaw, and the doctor tells him if he rests to<)ay he may be able to be here to-morrow. So that any part of this case that will affect him particularly will perhaps be laid over until then. I will simply dea' with my own posi- tion at present, and try to indicate what 1 think ought to be the mode of procedure. I do not consider myself here solely as the agent of this society. I am also a Methodist preacher belonging to the Methodist Church of Canada, and above or besides that I am a citizen of the Dominion, with rights as a citizen. As a good many of the brethren have seemed to indicate to me by little words that have been dropped, I am not here seeking for victory, I have no confli'"t with anybody, I am seeking for light, I am seeking for tit;; right, and nothing more. The position in which I find myself, alter twenty- four years of service in connection wirh the Methodist Church, is a very jjecuiiar one. 1 have come honie, and it seemed to me for years that the responsible adniinis- tratioii of this society was anxious to be rid of me. I resigned, and I applied in good faith to the authorities to be received into one of the conferences in this country. That application for transfer was refused. I find myself without a standing plare, without an appointment, without a dollar's income, with seven of a family on my hands to support. While 1 was under the stress of the circumstances that have brought about .the present culmination of affairs, I broke down in health ; my wife was strong; and heljied me. When I was able to get back again to my feet, and .ilniost ready for full work, my wife broke down. You know that this last summer she was for a length of time in the hospital. We had to break up housekeeping. .She has been in the countr)'. We are back again now in Toronto. My wile and five children and myself are together in two rooms in the third floor of a house in Toronto, trying to make ends meet by what we can get. I have had to sell my life in- surance in order to get bread and butter to put in the mouths of my children. But I am bound apparently on the one hand so that I can neither get free nor find a place to work, apparen;ly hanging between heaven and earth, belonging nowhere ; not free to act, to work out a plan or work out on any line of my own, to strike out on some other plan to get a living. I am hedged up on every hand until the way is o()ened by yourselves, or by the Church in some way. That is one thing. But of course I could soor. get out of that. I am young enough to make a living if I were free. He who steals my purse simply steals trash. That is a small matter ; but that is not the only thing of which I have been robbed. 1 come back here, after having been on the field seven or eight years, since my furlough, and it gradually is unfolded to me that I am living in an absolutely different environment from what I lived in ten years ago, when I came here in 1885, and went back in 1886, and was received with kindness and enthusiasm by every church, and every brother, and ever>' home in this broad Dominion; when the two colleges vied with i-arh other to put academic honcis upon me, and that kind of thing. I come back heie and find that the churchi-s are closed against me ; that I am invited at times to take part in certain conventions, but no, the voice is raised, there is a ban upon Brother F-by, he cannot be invited to this con- vention ; and in various ways I am made to feel, since 1 came back, and it is now nearly two years, that s()methin^ has occurred. My go.id name is gone. My reputation is certainly not what it was ten years ago ; and, before (lod, I know of no reason why this should be so. So far as 1 can Imd out any reasons at all, they have emanated from the a.,.iiinistrationof this Missionary S(H;iety. 1 have tried to find out some of the difficulties in the way. I find that year after year certain things have been put on record in your books, and there is a written record of ( er- tain censures, or certain acts that are directly or indirectly censures against me, and yet from the very beginning to the present day, not one single thing u|)on which these censures ha' been based lias ever been brought to my mind, and nevor once have I had the opportunity of replying to one document upon which thow actions were bated. There they are on record in your books, and some of them never came to my ear^ until I came to this country, and they were dragged out and brought to my mind here, and they were on record there in your books, and went forth, sometimes in the public press, sometimes by information t'..at would necessarily go out from the brethren here, and (he work has been done. In addition to these records that are in your lx>oks, of which I speak, there also unwritten records that have sapped my reputation in the same way, which I believe are absolutely unfounded in fact, based upon the efforts that I made to supplement the work of this mission by a self-supporting band. I believe that the statements that have gone out, that have come to your ears, are utterly untrue, The same is true with the Tabernacle. Statements have gone out with regard to the work that I did in connection with the Tabernacle, and the supplementary special work that I undertook to do there, the expenditure of money, and the gathering-in of money supplemental to the work of this Hoard. I believe that what has been said is untrue. It has been said, and I have met it over and over again, '' Brother Isby is a pretty good sort of a man, but he is an unsafe man, he would run us into debt. If you would give him a million of money he might run his scheme ; " and with statC'iients of that kind my standing has been imi)eachcd on those lines. I believe that those things are untrue. 1 want to meet them, I want to know just exactly what has been said and what has been done, so that 1 can meet those written records, and those unwritten records, and meet them squarely and fairly in a business nanncr, as well as in a brotherly way. I hold this Board liound to explain my position. Why itni I Ik diNgrnc« that I would make them ; but God forbid that that should ev«r Ih- necessary. I throw myself upon you oh bri'tlm-n, a.s well as a committee 01 this Missionary Sty, and I «.sk that a full statement 1h' mode by the tt'pr^'seiitafivc oHlrial of this Missionary Boai-d, who has the wholi< fiu'l« in his hands from e>'efy side, and the ii'itird.s in his hands, and the understanding of the whole nit nation. It s(>«>m.s to me that from that central source should oiiiiu' a .statement of the whole situation, and then I will Im< tMv to meet those things that toucli mc, and that is the iHMitioii that 1 now assume, and oitk that that course of pi'iK'cdure lie taken. I do not know what I shall do after this Itoaiil rises. I am living ttwiay by the moment, day by day ; « hat I do to-morrow will depend on what yo\i do to-day. I leave the matter in your hands, and ap|M>al for ihot kind of treatment of the subject that will bring the whole thing H<(uar('ly and fairly liefore us, so that I can nuM»t those things which you have against me. I have Im'imi walking; in the dark for a long time. When I caini> hoiiH' you know perfectly well, many of you, how 1 was bniki'ii ilown, nervously ; these things hiid come on mi> year aftor year until they hotl accumulated into a black, d<>nst> clouil -ver my head, and I could not, for the life (if nil', analyze them, or put them int oiuie more reasonably safe, and what 1 want now is to have the actual facts brought out in such a way that I (vtn niiM-t them logically in the face of ilocuments that ara in your hanilN and not in mine, and in the face of any li'sliinony that you may have or bring, or testimony that I may necessarily bring, after I find what the difli cult) lit, oi' what the charges may lie against me. For the present-, you will allow me to place this before you as my Ntutement. Dr. Suthkrland— Will Dr. Eby allow me to ask him a single question f At a meeting of our Executive some time ■go, Dr. Eby ««id he deiired to make a tutement extending 4 ■er ire te in Jd as ur at PR0CBBDINQ8 RS JAPAN AFFAIB8. 11 /:i I over • number of ytut, back as far as 1888. Some mem- ber of the Executive inquired whether he meant to make a verbal statement, or whether it was in manuscript. He said that it was mostly prepared ; and in reply to another question as to how long a time he would want, he said he thought from one to two hours. Then it was suggested that the Board was the proper place to make that state- ment. My question is, whether Dr. Eby intends to make that statement to this Board, and then perhaps the Board will decide when to hear it, and the course of procedure f Dr. Edv — The preparation that I had made at that time marks the stage of evolution which my thought and nerves had got up to at that time, and it seemed to me to fit into the circun.stances then. The times have changed. We are under a different environment here. I do not wish to make that statement in that shape, but to meet the farts as they arise in statements that come from the other side — (I would like to take the words "the other side" away) — statements that are made in this Board. I do not like to feel as though there were sides to this question. The Chairman— Brother Eby, that is very evidently fencing. The question is whether you are willing to give the Board the benefit of your experience in connection with difficulties in Japan. Of course yuu have said nothing about them. What the Board wants to get from the (leople that know is a straightforward statement. If Brother Eby does not acknowledge th<: existence of any difficulties, all right. Dr. Ebv — Well, I wish lo say that I do not understand what I said to bt; fencing at all. The question was whether I was ready or wished to make that s|>eciric state- m.nt which I had prepared .it a certain time. I simply say that that is out of date. I am willing to make a statement from beginning to end, in minute detail, of anything and everything the brethren want to have from n>e at any time that they desire it, only I do think that in fairness to myself I ought to know just what the statement is that affects myself in regard to this mission trouble, a statement that naturally will come from the official head of the administra- tion. Mb. J. A. M, .ViKiNs — I have itxul letters in ivgtHii to this. I have seen some editiiriais in the (iminiinii, >\\vl MM letters in other |m|)ers. There is ii ditlioulty, iks I under- stand, lH>tweeii the Ui'v. Mr. Eby uiul some of the Mission <'ouncil in Jn|Hkii, iiml the E.(ecutive whioh has ikcttHl. What I would like to get at is, wlmt is the coinplnint thut Dr. Eby niiike>t, and on what is tliiit oouipliunt foundtHi, iM against the iiction of the Executive I What T think the Board desires are the facts of the eiwe. If Mr. Eby will state what complaint he has to make a,k;ninst the action of the Executive, and support that iHiinplnint by any documentary evidence he has, I think it will fncilit^te matters in arri^'ing at a conclusion as to what rtvilly is the difficulty and the solution. JuDRR CilKSLBY — 1 have listened very carefully to what has been said by Dr. Eby in his statement, and it seems to rao that he has sttited very explicitly what his (HKiitioit and his reasons are, and I tliink lie has stated it so that we cannot as a Bo.ird fail to understimd it. Tt' I apprehended him, his grievance is that by the action e! ihe ExiH.'utive of this Hoard he is to-lo not know why he is a it«calliHl and a disgractnl missionary— (mrliaps not technically ivcalleil, but in sub- stance ami effect a recalled and disgractMl missionary. Now, if that is true, and so far as I have IxHMt able t^) follow the facts and records that have been made public, it is in essence true, then Dr. Eby huving statinl that, it is for us to find out why he is put in that jxisition, and not to ask hiui for a statement of the history of the missions in •Tapan for th't last ei)(hl years. I understand him to .say he is perfectly willing to furnish us any information that this BiNird may ask, that is in his |)os.st>saion, as to events in Ja]>Rn, or on this side, that camn within his knowltMlgit during the (uist seven or i'ljtUt years. Hut his Ntntement is so clear and unmistakable that I fail ta see that we have a right to ask him at this present mimient for anything further. He says, *' I am here, I am helplras, I am dis- graoed, I am in effect recalled." Whyt I venture atodeatly and humbly to iubmit that at the prwant moment, in the sight of this Board, and I may aay in the opinion of a large section of the laymen of our ena of the country, the Executive is the body on trial. I do not say the Executive is in the wrong, but the Executive is the body on trial. It has done this thing. Xow, we want its justification. Its justification may be forthcoming. We nave the right to ask for that. Mn. Maclarbn — I am sure we all sympathize with Bro. Eby in the very pathetic statement he has mada, and the fact that apparently our Methodist Church haa not made provision to meet all the exigencies of the case. Some of the difficulties of which he has spoken may be beyond the reach of this Hoard. The Church itself, in its legislation, will perhaps lie responsible in part for the anomalous Cition in whioh Bro. Eby finds himself, and whioh per- ils tills Board may find itself in, under the circumstances, having no control over the Annual Conference and the like. Part of the difficulty, and I think a vei-y serious part of Uie difficulty, arises from that. That, however, we will have to eliminate from our thoughts, excepting so far as this may necessitate some action on our part. Thk Chairman — That is correct. Mr. Maclahbn — It seems to me we should deal with what is before us. Judge Ohesley has said that the Executive is on trial. I was not here yesterday. The Minutes of the Executive were read yesterday. 1 suppose they disclosed somewhat fully the whole position. I know, as a raemlmr of the Executive, and having attended the niPetings, those Minutes are full. My impression is that they contain the reasons of the Executive's action. Their action is there. And I suppose it would be quite proper at any time to call up their action. In fact, when these Minutes vsere read hei-e it was quite proper, I suppose, for any memlier of this Board to call up any matter that had lieen acted upon by the Executive during the year, so that if the Executive were put on their trial in that way, as Judge Chesley states, the matter might come up in that way. However, it has not come up in that way. We aiv now dealing with the Japan difficulty. I was at a nuH'ting of the Executive, not the meeting when the action was taken of which Dr. Eby chiefly complains ; I was not in Toiiinto at the time and was not at that meeting of the Executive. 1 was present at, a subsequent meeting of the Executive when Dr. Eby came before us and made a lengthy statement, I think 1 may call it. His address exteiuknl lietween one and two hours, and Dr. Eby intimattsi that he wished to go before the Executive on very much larger grounds. He wished to take up the wlmle question running from the year 1888. It was suggesUnl to him that as the Executive was a mere tem- i>orary Ixxly, appointed from year to year, and could not go iNiek of the action of a ])revious Boai-d, that he would not lie able t<) get from the Executive the relief which he desired, if he wanted the review or reversal of the action taken by successive Boards since 1888. Then the intimation was miule to him that the proper place to make that statement wivs before this Board. Whether this Board can go back of ita own appointment, go back of a General Conference, anil review the action of previous Boards that have ivfHirted U) their General Conferences, and have been dealt with there, that is another question ; but there seems to 1)»< ni> doubt but that the Executive could not deal with and ivvoi-se the action of previous Boards of which Dr. Eby had complained. He saw the force of that, and agree*! to come and make the statement to the Board. As I understand it, he was invited to make that statement now, and I think Dr. Eby owes it to the Board to make it. Certainly he owes it to the Executive to whom the appli- cation was made. I think he owes it to the Board to make that statement now, even if some subsequent events have develojMKi new phases, I think those should be dealt with. It may Iw my thought, but I cannot see that tlierti is just the elearne.ss and detlniteness in the statement which my friend •ludge Chesley sees. I took down the statement that Dr. Eby complains of now, viz., that there are records in our liooks and proceedings there of which he was not aware until he came to this country, and he complains of the unjuMtness of those records. Those, I assume, are in part the action of the £!xeoutive, and in part the action of the Bokrd. At leaat, luch was bis complaint when he mode 18 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1885. mm it in Toronto, and I preauuiu it would be the name now. I do not think we can take a genentl statement like that — "Your bookx contain ccnKunw ami oharK<)* Uigainiit me of which I knew nothing until I came to this country," and invite us to go into a generol excuraiun of that kiiul. I Uiink Dr. Eby owes it to this Board to speciticaliy tell us that thi.s thing wim done and that thing was don«, anar to indicate that of a numlier of thew>, if not all, he was aware U'foro he loft Japan, and that they had a good deal to do with the unfortunate state of health which existtH^ on his coming to this country, I think, at the very least. Dr. Kby should mention what these are. He cannot be in the dark, because he says he has found out what they are. T think we should now have a piivise sUvtement of those things of which he complains thit were done ImOiiikI his Wk, luiil that he has found out one by one. I think it is due to this Uoard that we should ttnd out what those are. Dr. Kyokman — It He«>ms that we differ in our views us to how to come at thi.t i|ueHtion. As a humble member of this Board I have my xiew. and 1 do not think we are get- ting at it just now in the right way. For a whole year I have been waiting for this meeting, anuisidererniinate, and as these n'asons have never come out for a whole year, while attending the meet- ings of the Executive in Toronto, I ha\ e not l)P«-n able to get the information, akliough I have askwl for it again and again, and triefore the Executive ; I siiw the dithiulty under which he laliored. What could he say in ilefence i.f himself when he did not know what was alleged against him. F sjiw Brother Cassidy's ditficulty. He i.sik n ditrer<'nt ground. He did not resign so hastily as Brother Eby did, but he came before us in the Executive, and saian terminate;el at it. so lon^ us it is done. I will sub- mit to a gissi deal of inconxenienee and dissatisfiu'tion in my own mind with ii'gaiil to tlii' m.«/((» .//onui'/i, so long as we gel at the whole tnilh . but now it seems tome thai we ought to know, first of all, why it is that Kby and Cassidy «iiinot ronlinue their work in .lapun, l,et the.se objections be stated, and if there is u case against them, if Brother Kby is unlit fm u niissionuiy in .lu|>aii, let the reasons U' given, <,nll sjiy Amen to them if they ure goan. Rev. Mh. Hurstis — I have been a hmg while a member of the Board, and have occasionally given a vote on certain ((uestions that have lieen submitted by committees of the BiMird. Of course the details, or the mode by which they reachiMl their findings, was not known to myself and to other members of the lioaiil, except in the Committee, but their re|Mirt has l)een adoptetl. That has been somewhat the case in regaitl to this matter so far. \N'heii I came to the lioard this year, I made up my mind that I would give no vote on this ijuestion again until 1 knew all almut it, and I think that is tin' mind of the members of this Board. I i-egnn8ible as one of the members of the Executive for what has l>e<-n done), and yet he tella us ho knows no reason why these steps were taken. Dh. Hvckman— No, I did not vote for this action. Mil. Hi'KsTis If it was not unanimous, I.H that be under»t ap|Kiinted by the Executive Committee, to meet with the Kxointed by the General |{i>aixi, not by the Executive, that committee to meet with the liwlies, Dh, ToVKl.L -Then they brought back the report to the Executive ("onuaittee, I regretted that it was impossible til Im- (iiesent at that meeting when the Executive Com- mittee ai|opt4-ard may be properly decided. I want to get at the facts in order to come to a conclusion of ray own as a member of this Board. If the statement of Dr. Sutherland will show the issue, then by all means let us have the statement. If not, let Dr. Eby make his statement, and let us know exactly where the trouble lies. Rev. Mr. Lanoford — I think the trouble is we are all agnostics. We do not know anything. The memliers of the Executive do not know anything. That is the matter with the whole of us. We are trj-ing to find out some- thing. We are trying to get anylxidy to lead off. Nobody seems willing to start. Dr. Sutiikrland — Yes, sir : I will start at any moment you wy. Mr, Lanoford — Then we are approaching the starting- point. My friend Mr. Aikins saj's he does not know the issue, I think I know that much anyhow. I think the issue l)efore this Boai-d is that two of our missionaries, to use the expression of Dr. Eby, are disgraced. I will u.se his word. I do not say I am adopting that phrase. They are recalled. They are dismissed from missionary work. The authority that has dismissed them is the Executive of this Boai'd. The members of the Executive, some of them, do not understand why they were dismissed. We are not, therefore, very much mortified because we do not understand it. But we are determined, by the help of (tod, to get to understand it. If we have to ask any immber of questions we are going t.fi ~. IBi.' y '"'"v;?*fg3P5; A REVIEW 0/ Certain Matters Connected with the Japan Mission of the Methodist Church. Prepared by the General Secretary for the Information of the General Board and THE Methodist People, and Laid Before the Board, October 4TH, 1895. PRELIMINARY STATEMENTS. A Painful Subject. Having laid before the Board an Abstract of the Annual Report, also the Minutes of the Executive Com- mittee and the various communications that have been addressed or referred to you for consideration, I desire, before submitting the schedules from the Financial District Meetings, to lay before you a statement touching certain matters which have not only attracted a good deal of attention, but have stirred up a good deal of unpleasant feeling. I greatly regret the necessity which is laid upon me in this respect. From the time when friction between members of the Japan mission first began to be talked about, I have steadily refrained from any public expression of opinion on the matter, and even from a public statement of the facts so far as they were known to me. I have be- lieved from the first that any difficulties arising in connection with any of our missions, — any serious friction among the missionaries themselves, any grievances which any of them might consider they had, growing out of methods of admin- istration, or action on the part of the Society's officers, were matters to be dealt with by those to whom the Church has committed the management and oversight of missionary afTairs, namely, the General Board and its Executive Com- mittee, as they alone couid be seized of all the facts, and hence they alone could be in a position to judge fairly, without prejudice or passion. I have deprecated the persistent attempts to drag these matters from before the properly constituted courts and to cast them into the easily heated arena of public debate, where controversy is often conducted on partisan lines, and in the absence of very essential information. I have believed that such a course must result in serious injury not only to the Japan mission but to our mission work as a whole ; that it would under- mine confidence, repress liberality, engender bitter feelings which long years would not allay, and render a settlement of disputes far more difficult than it otherwise would have been. All this, in considerable measure, has already come to pus, and whatever may be the final outcome as regards individuals, further injury will be inflicted by this con- troversy upon the mission cause. Silence No Longer Possible. It is evident, however, that a time has come when longer silence on the part of the Executive and its officers would be unjustifiable — even criminal. Within the past two years the administration of missionary affairs, especially as affecting Japan, has been the subject of much hostile criticism. For more than a year two of our Japan missionaries, home on furlough, have persistently assailed the administration, and by private interviews, and a free use of the newspaper press, have circulated statements which, if true, might well shake the confidence of the people in the wisdom or even the integrity of the Board and its officers, and which if not true should be promptly and decisively dealt with by the proper authorities. That missionaries while still in the employ of the Society and receiving its pay should occupy much of their time in assailing the management, thereby producing a feeling of unrest and want of confidence among the people that is already telling injuriously upon the income, is in itself a fact of serious import, showing that a time has come when it should be decided, cnce for all, whether the legislation of the General Conference and the decisions of properly constituted Church courts have any binding force, or whether every man is at liberty to assail with impunity both legislative and administrative action, when these do not coincide with his private opinions or i>ersonal aims. Reasons for this Statement — Ground to he Covered. The statement which I now submit is necessary, therefore, for several reasons. 1. For the information of the Board itself. If the personnel of the Board were the same from year to year a detailed statement on my part would be less necessary ; but as not a few members are here for the first time, and therefore are unacquainted with the history of the Japan difficulties, as well as with the action of the Executive Committee, it seems to be absolutely necessary that they should be put in possession of all the facts, so that they may reach intelligent conclusions. 2. For the information of many Methc^ist people who, because of inaccurate GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1805. and misleading statements, persistently repeated, have become prejudiced against the admii.istration of the Society's affairs and have laid blame upon the innucvnt. J. For the vindication uf those who have been unjustly assailed, whether missionaries, officers, or members of the Executive Committee ; and lastly, that it may be clearly seen where rests the chief responsibility lor the unhappy strifes that have estranged the missionaries in Japan from each other and almost brouKht about u deadlock in the affairs of the mission. In the discharge of this, to nie, painful task, It will be necessary to cover considerable ground. The history of years must bo reviewed, a mass of correspondence must be classified and digested, the action of the General Uoard and its Executive, and of the Japan Mission Council, must be stated, so that the whole case may be seen in clear perspective. So many things enter into this question that perhaps no one of them can be pre- sented complete and separate by itself They all more or less overlap each other, and in making my statement I may frequently pass from one circumstance or group of circumstances to another, and back agrin in some other connection, because the facts with which 1 have to deal are all more or less related, and some of ihem throw light upon more than one aspect of the case taken as a whole. On many points the evidence in support of what I say will be furnished by extracts from official documents, while other statements will be confirmed by living witnesses who will appear before this Board. This Statement both Official and Personal. I wish it to be understood that the statement I now pre- sent is in one sense official, and in another personal. It is official in the sense that it is the General Secretary's state- ment to the lioard of matters of fact touching Japan affairs. It is personal in the sense that it is a justification of my official course and that of the Board and Executive, addressed throutih this Board to the Methodist people, and intended as a reply to the unwarranted attacks that have been made durinf 'he past year upon those who ?dminister the Society's aflai's. The somewhat dual character of the document will ati ount, therefore, for some peculiarities of .style, for the introduction of some personal references, and for (Kcasional expressions of opinion as well as statements of fact. In this connection I may say that the present document is not intended as a reply to letters that have lately appeared in the Guardian and elsewhere. These letters I have not read, partly because I was very busy with my own proper work and had no time to spend on profitless newspaper controversy, but chiefly because I was apprehensive that by reading them the statement 1 was preparing might be tinged with a spirit of controversy or even of bitterness, and this I was anxious to avoid. The Policy of Silence. Up to the present lime, with the exce|)tion of one official statement showing what h.id been done, up to a given point, nothing has l>een published by the Executive Committee or the officers of the Society. They deemed that while im- portant matters affecting our missions were under consider- ation by the proper Church courts it would be highly improper to make them the subject of public controversy, as well as injurious to the cause they had at heart. But no such considerations seem to have influenced the mission- aries. Not only have one-sided statements of Japan affairs been put forth in various ways, but official documents, still under consideration, have been given by the missionaries to the public press ; parts of official letters have also been published, correspondence on the subject has appeared in our connexionai or^an, and no effort has been spared to misrepresent the action of the Executive and its officers and to excite prejudice against them throughout the ("hurch. And this, be it renienihered, was done while the whole question was still under consideration and could not be finally decided until further communications were received from the missionarit s in Japan. It must be clear to any unprejudiced mind that this was not the result of accident but of a deliberate plan, the nature of which I will endeavor to make clear further on. Suffice it now to say that such a course in civil matters— such an attempt to prejudice and prejudge a case that was still sub judic* — would be regarded as a grave misdemeanor and dealt with accordingly. Popular Impressions. The impressions whic, seem to have been made upon many minds by the statements of the returned missionaries are substantially as follows : That there has been friction be- tween some of the missionaries in Japan among themselves, also between the missionaries and the authorities at home, but that for these frictions the missionaries of the General Society are not in any way responsible ; that two mission- aries of the General Society and one of the Woman's Society have been recalled, they know not for what reason; that six missionaries of the General Society hav^ united in a request to be recalled because of certain statements said to have been made by the Secretary at the General Con- ference ; that Dr. Macdonald Is retained as official repre- sentative of the Board In Japan against the wishes of the missionaries there ; that two missionaries complain of un- just treatment In that the Board refuses to repay them the amount of their ex^ienses to Japan ; that Dr. El)y complains of harsh and arbitrary treatment, and even cruelty, on the part of the Board and Executive, and the General Secre- tary ; and that Mr. Cassidy demands that he be sent back to Japan notwithstanding the decision of the Executive that he should remain in this country. On all these points it seems necessary that the Board and the ('hurc h at large should now have definite and reliable Information. I. THE MISSION COUNCIL. Is It Wise to Have a Council f For a full understanding of the whole situation it is necessar)' to give some account of the Japan Mission Coun ell, which has played so prominent a part In mission af- fairs. Previous to 1886 there was no Mission Council, proiierly so called, but the missionaries met, from time to time, in an Informal way, to converse about the work, lay plans for future operations, prepare estimates for the year's ex|x;nditure, etc., etc. But at the General Conference of 1886, Dr. Eby, who was then in this country, introduced legislation in regard to the Japan wo'i^, which greatly changed the aspect of affairs. This was what 1 may call the initial mistake. A mission meeting for Informal con- ference, like that of the Methodist Episcopal mission in Japan, is one thing ; a Mission Council with large adminis- trative and (luasl-ieglslative powers, is quite another thing. The one may be useful in many way.s, and a bond of union among the missionaries ; the other, especially when It begins to think of itself "more highly than It ought to think," l)e- comes an element of danger, disturbing the peace of the mission, and creating distrust among the native brethren. It will be remembered that at the General Conference Mr. Satoh, in referring to the .Mission ('ouncil, spoke of it as a "Stjjr Chanilx;!," and his remark was not altogether without foundation. The Council is viewed with some distrust by the Japanese They have often referred to the harmony that has existed between themselves and the foreign mis- sionaries, and have deprecated anything that would disturb it, but no longer ago than the Conference of 1894, owing to want of tact on the part of the Council, it seemed as though the day of race feeling had come to our mission, as it has come to others. The trouble arose In the Stationing Com- mittee, and whatever may have been its precise nature I have the emphatic testimony of Dr. Macdonald that "the Japanese were not to blame." .'\ccordlng to the present constitution the Council has authority to station the foreign missionaries, while the Conference has the usual Stationing Committee ; but it Is open to question if a divided sta- tioning authority is good in Japan or anywhere else. While th 1886 for tlj called, Is ' 1889, 1 ••I June, whei tion and " Mr.Cassid bereferreij regard to ( urvi and 1 " The C| the app" Treaaurer g«ore(My 4 The s« reads: which it ' From the Chairl ing Secre| is no rea should 111 "the app ence woif has been the Boar As the bo called for confi after reti report ol posed cc far as '.li whir a Ci Boird tl vleneral point is tutton V cil actec Whet the vJoi Council objectei official the Bo ment. given I or othe Board, the ai clause 2 MiNMaMiNlMtfwm *ifr^-i!^-t*i,fa< ns \ot which I K it now to I attempt to M Jvdin— dealt with Jiade upon lissionaries Viciion be- pemselvei, i at home, |e General p missjon- [Woman's kt reason; [united in pents said Jeral Con- lial repre- |es of the fn of un- phem the Jmpiains on the PROOEBDKNOB RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW, 1 Tht CoHttitMtton — H«w Formtd. While there were general rcKulations in the Discipline of 1886 for the japan Million Council, the "ronititution," 10 called, is of later date. When visitinK the Japan work in 1889, I attended a meeting of the Council on the 6th of June, when the report of a Committee on the " Constitu- tion and Functions o( the Minion Council " was read by Mr.Caisidy. There are only two items of the report that need be referred to in the present statement. The first is in regard to the election of Chairman and Recording Seere- tary, and reads as follows : " The Chairmnn ihall be elected by the Oouiitiil, iiibjeot to the approval of the H»ine Board, and ahall Ui ix-nffiiii, Treasurer and Correiponns fur vntiii)( ngHJnit certain pnipiKutla tuurliiiiH lliu Tabernacle work, ur to give information to thuConiniitteeulbiT than that ciiiitaiiied in tliu minutes or ruaolutiona of the Mi»- siuu Council. It is held to be the duty of Dr. M»on, In furnish the Committi-o with the fulloat information in rvuanl In all matters atTectinx the work of the Miaaimi and thoCoiiiiiiittoe require that he shall vominunioate fully and freely his own viewi, not only in rt'ganl to the work in venural, but alao in reifard to ■ny action taken by tho Miaaion Council." The above action was communicated to Dr. Macdonald hy letter dated April i4lh, 1893. As this is one of my letters that have been complained of as harsh and diclnlorial, I quote it almost entire. It will be noiiced that in the first paragraph I speak of previous correspondence being recalled. This refers to the action of the Council in Dr. Eby's case, which is given in another connection, but I introduce it here also for the sake of clearness : " It was moved by V. A. Casiidy, aecondtnl by .1. 0. Dunlop, and reaulved. That whervaH the vatiniatva for the >|Mivial work in connection with the Cdntral Taliernaclti have Imwii disnilowod : and whureat, Dr. Kby ia therefore unable to do the •|iui'ial work for which we ui'^fd his continuiuice on thia Held a year ago ; and whereas, Dr. Eby tlmrefore fevla that Ilia rct'jtil, ihiiuuhI hy the Board in 1892, properly now comes into forcv, iiiid th ruforn he feels HS though lie should return to Cniimln at once; and whereas, we ivo clearly that the lecnll of Dr. Kby at tht< present criais and the diitallowance of the fund* f r his •pecixl work in- volve the reduction uf the work nf t o TitlH-rnarle. now our most priy tiie hia return till after Conference, and that we aa nCounril take tho reaponsibility of advancinx suthcieiit fumls to cover the almuliite neceasitiea of tho Tabernni'lo work till ('onferenre time, pre- ■uming that the Miaaion Koiinl ci>rtainly cou d not nienn tu desire tho olnae of this promising work at ih ' present time. "And further, that it is the opinion of this Council that Dr. Eby ou,('ht to lie allowud to return to Canada fir tho pur|M>se of visiting the annual Koaran in the autumn of the present year, " The Secretary's Leilers to Dr. Macdonald. It should also be said that a year before strong resolu- tions were passed by the Mission Council insisting that Dr. Eby should be allowed to remain in Jap.in. My Utter to Dr. Macdonald, referring to these things, and giving the decision of the Committee, is as follows, omitting an intro- ductory paragraph which is of no importance, and some paragraphs referring to entirely different subjects : " The expected letters having at length come In hand, a meeting of tho Committee of Finance was convened on thr I'.'th inst., « hen tho Minutes of the Miaaion Couiieil, aa contjiiiiid in your letter, were read. Tho aa'ient points in previous corres- pondence were also recalled, so that tho Cuuimittee might deliberate with all available data before them. The reading of the various docnmonta seemed to produce a conviction in the mind* of the Committee that th* present situation in Japan is th* Riaveal that has ooourrw) in the hMory of tha Mission, aad that th* tima has arrived when thtra shuulil be a clear under standing as to th* duties and pow*m u( tli* Miasiu.i Couneil, and its raUtion tsitinn by ap|iointinent of th* Oenenil Itoanl, it ia only by consent of that Unly that yiiu can vacate the (xisition or relin<|uish the dutioa involved, and that it is not competent for the Council to either accept or reject your roaignatinn. It may be, however, that all tins ia prema- ture, and that no resinnation baa been tondorod or cimtom- platecrs uf the (ioneral Ttuard who are familiar with the histury nf our work in Japan. It i* scar ely noceasnry fur mo tu say that you huve h\il, and still have, the entire coen challenged by one of th* brothien. Tho paHicular case in question aeonis to I avo been tho vote respecting tho ap|wiiiitineiit of a lady niisHionary tu tho TatH>rnaolc. On referring tu yuur letter, 1 find a statement in less than a dozen words that you hae the duty of the Chairman of the .Mission Council, as tho ofHcial representative of the Missionary Board in ,Inpan. tu furnish the Buard and Ciunmittee with tho fullest infurnuilion in regard to all matters Htlccting the work uf the MiaKion, and the Committee require that ho shall cuminunicnto fuHy and freely his uwn views nut nnlv in regard tu tho work in general, but iilau in regard to any actiun taken by the MisHiun Council." When the foregoing letter was read to the Executive at its next meeting, the following resolution was unanimously adopted : * I tisrs since lsrm«i that It waa Mr, Onimm.v, and not Dr. Eby, aa I aup- posail, who took «c«ptU>n ; but the Isttar iubaaqucntly aupported Mr. Orummy a ooniaaUoo.— A. S. ' ;i liiii ytV-fiii'i 'Tily^-iie'i* ~IVy -T, -^ PROOBEDINOS RE JAPAN AFPAIR8-THE SBORETART'S RBVIIW, ■'fiii'. . • ■{ II Indw- moil, of 111 on ixUty M the th« 'hll* Ion or |or to jin- i«ver- th« DiMrv >wmI, It th« Itii Me Jirding |twaen I h*r- f"'r«- Ig Dr. . r "MotmI bjr H. 8. Mittthawt, Moondad by Hon. J. C. Aiklni, mm! ratoWad, That ir« haartilv approv* of tha oouraa purauad by tha Oaiierkl Hvvrvtary in hi* correipondcnoa with our mliaion«riaa in Japan, and raiiiiait him in all (urthar our- raapondanea with tham to follow aiinilar linaa." DispotilioH of Sutplut Funds. To illuitrate another point I call attention to certain reso- lutions of the Mission Council, bearing upon the dispoaition of surplus funds. The first two resolutions were passed In March and July, 1872, respectively. I (juote from the Minutes of Council : " It was decided to purchsio a lot in Usliigoine for the church, should tha lnuation be luitable— the rent of the houses in Tsukiji to l)a cpplied in payment." " RiiArtd, That any surplus that may remain after the last year's aooounta are fully made out be applied on the new church lot and church at Ushisomo. The Council also gHVo iterminsion to use the balance of the Board's urant to Shizuoka church on church building in Shixiiokit district." The point to be noted is that the Council assumes the right to dispose of any surplus funds reniaininK after the year's appropriations are met, as well as any moneys arising from rent of Mission property. The importance of the principle will appear more clearly in the light uf the next resolution, which was passed in July, 18(^4 : " Movee raised, and probably with greater emphasis, a year from now. I mention this now •o that if any chunye it made it will not appeal to be suddenly sprung upon the brethren in Japan without any warning." The date of the letter is important, because it was after- wards complained that the Board suddenly struck off fifty per cent, of the children's claims without giving the mis- sionaries any notice. Protest 01 the Missionaries. When in Japan in the summer of 1889, I conversed with the missionaries about the proposed stoppage, where- upon a resolution was passed in the Mission Council, on motion of Mr. Cassidy, assuring the Board that not only was the allowance for maintenance necessary, but that, in addition to this, each child from the age of i a to the age of 18 should receive $100 per annum for educational pur- poses. At the meeting of the Board in 1889, the resolution ol the Council was read and referred to a committee, which subsequently reported, recommending a new scale as follows : For each child between the ages of 5 and 12 years, $75 per year ; from 12 to 18 years of age, $100 per year. This pro- posal was rejected by the Board, and a motion was carried to malte a giant for that year of $50 for each child, with the expectation that in another year all grants would C(«se. When this action was communicated to the missionaries, a committee of the Council was appointed to draft a memorial to the Board, covering the children's claims and a graduated scale of salaries for the missionaries. The memorial, after being re-written, was finally adopted by the Council, and in preparing the estimates for the year it was resolved that the first item be the amount deducted the previous year from the children's claims. When the document reached the Executive Committee, it was found to consist of 3)^ foolscap pages, printed in small type, and might be sup- posed to contain all that could be said on the missionariei' side of the question. The argument was well and strongly put, and concluded by protesting against the act of the Board as an injustice ; that the former allowance should be considered permanent, and to be altered only with the con- sent of the parties concerned. Notice was given that they (the missionaries) could not remain on the field (unless the allowances were made) beyond their first furlough at farthest, and would much prefer immediate recall. Finally they asked, as a condition of remaining, — " for this year a grant equivalent to the reduction ; for the future a fixed salary and allowance for children which can be looked upon as a contract." Action of the Board — Tlie Secretary's Letter. The memorial reached the Executive Committee in July, and after being read and considered, was sent on to the General Board. The latter body met on the rising of the Gen- eral Conference of 1890, and being much pressed for time, passed the former grant of $100 for each child for that year, and referred the papers to the Executive Committee to con- sider carefully and report to the next Board meeting. When the Committee met in November, it was ordered that the Secretary furnish each member with a copy of the memorial and other documents referring thereto, and that the question be considered at the next meeting. On the a 7th of the same month I wrote to Dr. Macdonald, and as this is one of the letters complained of as being harsh and un- kind, I quote in full the part referring to the children's claim : " The Board decided to allow for the present year the usual $100 for e.tch child, pending the fuller consideration of the memorial from the Mission Council, and the accompanying letters. That memorial was considered in the Committee of Finance and was sent on to the General Board ; but, as the Board met immediately on the rise of the General Conference, i^iyfliBt^ tyii%( i^r^ij; 10 GENBRAL BOARD OK MI8SI0NB. IMS. 1= •> V^ M wM impMtibI* to t|ive ih« docuinant the coniicltraiion it JemMMitd I tt WM thtreror* referred to the Committee of finance, with inMiuction* to coniider it fully end in rrport to the HiMrd at itn next mceiinu. The Committee niei • fortnivht •lio, when the i|uriiion •>( children'* ellowenrr in japnn wet intriMluced. It win il»i iilcd, after tome convertalinn, ihal the varioui (IncmneiiK referring to thia »iibiecl ihniiUI lie printed and H copy furniihed tn each member of (he Coininittee, *u that the moil careful roniiderntinn ini||ht lie givrn to all atfietu of the raae, and a deciiion reached that would he Hnal and con i.-luiive. I am not in a position, Ihercforr, to lay what the decition will lie ; hut I may «a^, luduinK from i nmmenit niiuir in the Coinmillpc, that the action of the Count d hii nni im pretted the minds of ihr lirrthrrn here with either the ri)jhl eouinesi or reaionablenc'is of the claimi set forth. The lome what diclntoriul lone of the memorial iltrif, the iinuarrantcil assumptions on which >ome of the stalemrnls and r^tiinali-, m« based, and the e\lravai(ani ilaimt respeclinufuiurr allowaiue*, had a tendency to repel any feelini; of sympathy that minht otherwise have been expeririucil. This mallpr has assumed a shape whuli renders it neictsary thai no grounds l>e left for future misiinderstanilintl ; and il the ttalement of the memorial and the supnleinenlary memorandum that the continuance of one or all of the foreign missionaries in the lield is dependent upon the claims set forth lieinji ionce«led, I think I am not KoinK beyond the feelinK and judKinenl of the Committer in sayinu that they will be prepared lo ai cepi the allcrnalivr. In addition to llie representation concerninx children's allowance, the Committee have under considcratiim a pro|H>srd slidiPK scale of iti|)ends for inis'>ionaries, and will bepieparrd lo exprest a definite opinion al the next meeting. When this point H reached I will communicate again with you on the subject." The next meeting of the ("(immittce was holil in I'lli ruary, 1S91, and in the minutes I find the folliiwing entry . "Thedeneral Secretary reiid a copy of hi!> letter to Dr. Macdonald, written subscc|uent eo the last meeting of the Com mittee of Finance, respecting the action which Ihr Mission Council had (.aken in the matter of i hildren's allowances, etc. The letter was commended by the Committee as a fair and proper expression of their views. " .Ictinn iif tht Board in /Sq/. Several meetings of the Comnullee were held U'fore a decision was reached ; but in Septeml>er, i8i;i, a report on the Japan memorial w.is adopted and sent on to the ( General Board, with all the related pu|)ers. Tlie Uoaril referred these documents to a Committee on japan affairs. The committee re(X)rted in due course, and their report was adopted, as follows ; Vour Committee hm lo report thai ilie following diHuinenIs were laid before them, and wrrr carefully considered : 1. A mrniorial from the Mission ('(nincil of Japan, marked " Contidential." relating to ministers salaries and rhildieiis allowances. }. A supplementary statement fioiii the same Council. 1. Analysis and comparison of present and prop of payment 4. A memo, of allowances to missionaries made by other societies working in Japan. 5. Certain letters from missionaries on thr same subject. 6. A report by the Committee of Consultation and Finance on the same subject. After carefully considering the question of salaries and chil dren's allowances, the Committee would recommend thr follow- ing scale of salaries (1) For Sing/t Miii : I'rr annum for first two years $r. Kby had actually rrieived more than he would have received under the old scale had no deduction iH-en made at all. In the year the reduction waa made there were five children, which, under the old scale, meant $500 |K'r annum. I'ndur the new scale there wai one child at $,so, two at $100, and two at $150, -a total of $5licy, or rather the introduction of ati entirely new principle in the management of the Missionary Fund, whereby the sti|)ends of the Japan missionaries would no longer \\e annual grant*, lubject to variation as the state of the fund or other circumitance might render neci>ssary : but fixed salaries which the Hoard would l)c rom|ielled to pay no matter how much other (>arts of the work might suffer. \ retolution embodying this very principle was introduced by Mr. Cassidy at the last (leneral Conference, anil passed by a small majority ; but, on further reflection, the dangerous nature of the inno- vation was |M'rceived and the action was rescinded. In view of all these facts it will be seen that the action of the Hoard toward the missionaries was more than kind, and that if anyone had cause to complain it wa« the Hoard, and not the missionaries. III. COMI'IAINTS ()!• HARSH TRK.VTMENT. Where Doei /HJMstii-r Afif^nrt .\s some of the nfissionanes have made and emphasized coniplaints of harsh or unfair treatment by the Hoard or the Secretary, it is iu;cessary to pursue the |>oint tt little liiriher. In only a few in.tances have these complaints reached us directly in corres|M)ndence, but some of them ha>e lx.'en industriously circulated in private, and, as is usual in such cases, have grown larger with each repetition. 1 )r. i;by has complained of unkind tre,itment of himself and family ; Mr. t'assidy announced liefore leaving Japan that he was going to op|M)se the Hoard for their cruelty to I ir. I'by ; and a niemlu-r of the .Mission Council told one of the NIetliodist Mpiscopal missionaries that Dr. (Cochran h,td been driven out of the Mission by the unkind and unjust dealing of the Hoard. Fortunately Dr. Cochran is here to answer lor himself, and I think the other complaints can lie disposed of (|uite as easily. It will readily t)e seen that if there has been harshness or injustice it will appear in one or more of three ways, namely, in the decisions of the Hoard or Kxecutive ; the langu.ige, tone or spirit of the Sccretarv's ec.inmunications ; or the provisions made for the fiitaneial support of the missionaries. l,ct us look at tbe.se in their order. Duties iimi Policy of the Board. The duties of the Hoard to a mission like that in Japan may be summed up under four heads. ( 1 ) To select and send inissioiiiiries to the lield. (2) To indicate the general lines of work to be pursued -sometimes called "the Policy of the Hoard." (3) To consider the various requests or proposals of individual missionaries or of the Mission Council, and decide what answers shall be sent. (4) To make the necessary appropriations for the support of the work. In the second of these particulars the Hoard has pursued a liberal course, never interfering with the work of a missionary in his own proper field ; but sometimes they have found it necessary to repress certain tendencies, whether 01 cKtrava- gance in expenditure or > 1 centricity in working. As a rule, the 'loard ha.? not favored doubtful experiments, like the Self-support movement. Its |)olicy has been in favor of TSi-V *■ ▼■»♦■♦*.'. ■■ ,;■ " " ^ p'l allowanc* la ur ymn. The d, and whtn it |Cby Mk«d Imv« being taken Inn." But back I been genarally lie ol children'* |re than he would no deduction JL-iion wai made ^Id nf-ale, meant there was one I150, -a total of memurial of the there ihould be that ihould be jolved a complete introduction of igement of the |» of the Japan iranti, subject to ler circumstance [which the Hoard low much other iition embodying r. Cassidy at the nmall majority; ature of theinno- inded. In view tion of the Hoard ind, and that if loard, and not the KKATMENT. itrl o and emphasized l)y the Hoard or the |M>int a little these complaints ut some of them rivate, and, as is h each repetition, anient of himself irc leaving Japan jr their cruelty to Council told one that Dr. r;ochran jnkindanci unjust Cochran is here it complaints can idily he seen that vill appear in one deciaion.s of the or spirit of the ions made for the t us look at these iiirtf. ike that in Japan ■() select and send le general lines of :he Policy of the Its or pro|K)sals of in Council, and ) To make the tlic work. In the pursued a liberal of a missionary ley have found it ether ot estrava- •king. As a rule, :riments, like the »een in favor of PR00EEDIM08 RA' JAPAN AFFAIR8-THE SKORBTARY'8 HEVIRW. t\ ordinary tnethoda in mission work, lielieving that liettcr rttultt mlRht reaionably be exoectud from methods that had bMn tasted and proved, than from new and untried schemes, no matter how ingeniously constructed on pajier, or in what glowing colors (lortrayed. In all this then* was nothing that ixiuld U; oppressive to iny faithful and loyal worker, nothing that need be felt to be in the least deKree irksome. If, in the case of any missionary, there was discovered occasionally n tendency to fly off ut a tangent, to launch visionary schemes, to inaugurate moveiiieiiiM of doiililfiil expediency, involving large cx|>enditure, then, in iill proliablllty, the policy of the Hoard and the adiiiiiiistratiin of its afTaira might sometimes conllict witli the views of individuals ; but in iiuch ca.ses it is hardly reasonable to demand that the Hoard should reverse its policy, or, failing to do so, the missionaries would ha\e just cause of complaint. From first tu last the policy of the Huard has been fair and reasonable, and although it has Iktii (ipixiscd by some of the niissionarius, I have never heard one of them adduce a single valid reason in sii|)pori of his contention. As the action of the Hoard ami lixccntive in regard to ()uestions of policy will lie referred In in other connections, I abstain from details here. /i<ii, one is really at a loss to know what all the trouble is about. ' During the history of the .Mission a great ina.iy recjucsts have come from missionaries and from the Council — requests concerning stipends, children's claims, furloughs, travelling expenses, houses, rent and furniture ; innumerable requests concerning Dr. Kby's Tahernacle, and other schemes ; and to each and all of these the Hoard ami Executive have given not only patient but sympathetic attention. True, all the requests could not he granted, but when a refusal was necessary it was kindly expressed, and it was only when the tone of the Council became dictatorial, or its action ultra vires, that refusals were couched in firmer language. In some cases re(|uests were not only considered, but reconsidered again and again, so that there might be no room for complaint that any representation by the Council or by an individu.il tnissionary was lightly treated. Some of these cases will be referred to in other connections. Financidl Provision for Afissionaries. As to provision for the missionaries, including stipends, house-rent and other expenses, the action of the Board has been most liberal. Take the case of eight missionaries in the first twenty-two years of the history of the Mission. The following list shows the average annual payments in gold during their term of service, to cover salai), children's allowance, house-rent and furniture, over and above what some of the missionaries earned by te.iching ; Dr. Macdon.-ild. .$1,412 Mr. Saunby $i,2s8 Mr. Cocking 1,369 Dr. Meacham 1,402 Mr. Cassidy 1,409 Mr. Whittingtoii. 1,551 Dr. Cochran .... 1,756 Dr. Eby 1,890 During the period included in the above statement, with the exception of a single year, gold was at a premium - much of the time ,),i |ier cent, or over, lately 100 uer cent. I' may safely be taid, therefore, that the $i,H9oin I)r. F^by's case would lie worth ovi'r $a,Soo in Japanese currency; and so in proportion with the salaries of the other missionaries. Hear in iiiiiiil that besides this provision for the support ol the missionaries, liberal aid has been given in other direc- tions the erection of buildingi, furlough exfienses, etc., etc., and it becomes dear that if the Hoard has erred in the matter of financial support, it has not lieen on the side of parsiniony. It should be stated that the |>ayments would have been higher, in several instances, but for the fact that the missionaries earn«(l part of tlieir sti|)eiids by teaching. Ktmarkitbit FinitHdal Proposals. In justice to the other missionaries it should be said that only by Dr. ICby and Mr. Cassidy have complaints of the kind referred to licen made -chiefly by the former. The missiers, and on satisfied energy r.ather than on dissatisfied toil in the niis- siorKiry stafl'. (,)tiality, experience and satisfai tion c-innot be retained on in,-ide(|uate material support for self and family. We observe that small salaries attract small men. (.^hcap missionaries means shallow work, or celibacy, which is splay-footed. The elderly men who would have the largest salaries will always Ih' the few, such are the exigencies ol the service in a foreign and depressing climate, and if they arc on hand their olficial elficiency would make them the cheapest members of the statT. Suggested scale of salary and allowances : Salary, $1,000 per year for two years Outfit and f'irniture, $500. Salary, $1,200 for six years. Inclusive of furlough. " $1,150 from 9th to 12th year inclusive. .$1,500 from I jth year to the end. Children, $100 till ten years of age. •' " $.'0() from ten till eighteen yeais of age. T-i date in every case from the liirtli of the child, j T/ie Proposals Coiurtled. In order to concrete these proposals it is enough to say, that, had the scale been adopted by th.e Board, it would have meant in Dr. Kby's case an annual appropriation for himself and children of not less than $2,200 in gold, with provision for house rent, travelling and furlough expenses, personal teacher, etc., agKregating net less than $800 more, or a grand total of $3,000 in gold, eipiiva- lent to at least $4,000 in Japanese currency. And this does not include anything for buildings and what Dr. Kby calls " plant " Assuredly such an expenditure ought to procure a vast amount of " satisfied energy," but the point to be noted is that the Board was bound, in justice to the fund and to other missions, to repress such indications of extravagance, and ought to he commended rather than blamed for so doing. Let it not be supposed that, in these observations, I wish to convey the impression that the stipends now paid to the missionaries in Japan are too large. I do not think they are ; but they are amply large enough to acquit the Hoard of any unkindiiess or want of liberality in its dealings with the missionaries in the foreign field. A Change of Front- The ''Arbitrary" Cry. I have previously referred to the fact that at the General Conference the chief, if not the sole, coh,plaints .A the returned missionaries had reference to financial matters, -^-■4»w^aiMlfciirl«W;, ss GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1896. but very soon after, perhaps even before the Conference adjourned, this line of complaint was abandoned, and ever since the two brethren referred to have displayed na small anxiety to keep financial considerations, as causes of dis- satisfaction, in the background, while others have been brought prominently forward. The reasons for this change of front are not hard to find. The returned missionaries quickly discovered that their financial complaints brought little sympathy. Enough was known of the liberal policy of the Board toward the Japan mission to neutralize appeals for sympathy on that line ; and when, at a subsequent date, the letter of the six missionaries was received, repudiating the statements made un their behalf, declaring that they had no complaint to make on financial grounds, it became more than ever apparent that the cry of financial injustice must be dropped, and something with more " go " in it must be substituted. It was then that we began to hear mysterious rumors of arbitrary action on the part of the General Secretary, of harsh letters and cruel treatment, and the persistent circulation of these statements was well calculated to affect injuriously the support of the people, and embarrass the Executive in the administration of the Society's affairs. I aril glau that in making these statements I am speaking to a number of l)usiness men, who are familiar with the nature of great financial enterprises and know something of the conditions upon which successful management depends. You are well aware that in all the range of human interests there is nothing so sensitive as finance ; that with the quickness of a delicate barometer it res|jonds to the slightest rise or fall of public cqnfidence. Whatever m,7y be said, therefore, of the abstract right of men to air imaginary grievances, or to criticise methods of ad. Ministra- tion, yet when great linancial interests are at slake only the gravest necessity will justify the putting of private interests before public safety, .\nyone who pursued such a < ourse in regard to a bank or other financial corporation would be held to strict account, and it seems to me we should not be less strict in administerm^ a great benevolent trust like that of our Missionaiv Society. Ah Emphatic Denial — Requtst for an Enquiry. I wish now tn say that I meet all these charges of harsh or arbitrary action with distinct and emphatic denial. I affirm, with regard to the Japan missionaries, that in no instance have I acted on my own responsibility, or gone beyond the lines of my official duty. I afiirm that in no instance have 1 been guilty of harshness, much less of tyranny or cruehy, in my treatment of these men, but from first to last my dealings with them and toward them have been kind and considerate, and always with a view to the best interests of the work. So well has my friendly attitude towards Ih. japan mission and missionaries been understood by those who for many years have been mem- bers of the Board and its Executive, that the latter body in writing to the six missionaries spoke upon the point as follows : "And here we may be permitted to say that the General .Secretary has always tieen a stauncfi friend of the J.ip.in mission and iiiissionaties. If .iny mission in connexion witli our Church could complain of want of zeal on his part in urging its special interests and claims, it certainly could not be yours." And even as regards Dr. Kby and M'. Cassidy, who have done so much to shake the confidence of the Church in my official administration, I have refrained from answering them as their course deserved, and have not even contradicted their statements, except when I have met them fai e to face in the (Jcner.ii Conference, the Board of Missions, or the Executive. I refrained because I believed that controversy would injure the cause I had so much at heart, and if at last I have resolvetl to break silence, it is from a conviction that no other course will meet th.t exigencies of the case. In view of all the circumstances, I have now to request that this Board will cause an inquiry to be made, the more searching the better, and that the committee to whom it may be referred l)e in- structed to report to this Board any instance in which I have acted upon my own responsibility, without the instruction or sanctiop of the Board or Executive ; any instance in which I have exceeded the limits of my official duty, or have dis- charged that duty in a harsh or arbitrary manner. As I have faithfully and loyally carried out the instructions of the Board in the past, I have a right to expect their cordial support in the discharge of my duties, and the protection of their testimony against unfounded accusations. [Before tli« iiuou ndjourninent it wiut muvtsl und carried that there ln' an evening seHsion, corauieneing iit 7.30. At \'l o'clock Ur. Suthurland moved the adjournment of the reiuliiig. Connnittee of the Whole resumed at 2 p.m. After devo- tional services — Mk. Lanukoho -It hiw oceuTed to me to ask this quen- lion. Would not it Ix" advisable that each member hIiouUI have a eo]iy of this document which is now printed, that " >• may note in the margin such matters as we desire to ( 11 up after the reading? That will avoid interruptions II ring the course of the reading. Dii .St'THKiiLANU — I might say I haortanee in u coiinect4>en reiuling something just as important as you are making a note U]ion. I might be feeling all the time that you were not catching the eimneeted story. I must be under the ilireetion of this lUiai-d, but I would prefer to read the doeunient through. As this seemed to he the desire of the Board the read- ing was resumed as follows] : IV. THE SELF-SUPPORT MOVEMENT. What is known as the Self-support movement was a plan initiated and matured by Dr. Eby, with the hope of pushing more rapidly the evangelization of Japan. Ordinary methods were too slow There must be a new departure — a sudden rush — a grani ward movement. The main idea was to induce volunto I . to come to Japan on the line of self- support, independent of any society. Kor these he would secure positions as teachers in ( 'lovernment schools, where the salary of many of them would be not only sufficient for their maintenance, but would leave a good margin to aid those less favorably circumstanced, and also employ in evange- listic work some for whom a position could not be found in the schools. It was thought, moreover, that a Christian teacher in a public school would have a good mission field ready to his hand, where the seed of divine truth could be planted in promising soil. The motive was good — the scheme was plausible ; but ar ,' thoughtful onlooker could not fail to see that it was fraught with elements of danger to the peace and harmony of the mission as a whole. If in civil matters an "empire within an empire" endangers stability, no less true is it that a mission within a mission must ultimately prove a disturbing force. When in Japan, in iS.Sc;, I met the members of the Self-support Band, and in the course of a lengthy conversation pointed out what seemed to me to be the dangers of the movement. The brethren received what I said in a most kindlly spirit, and assured me they would guard ag inst everything that might tend to create friction between them and the regular mis- sion. That they weie ijuite sincere in this is shown by a subse(iu nt action, Not long after the conversation referred to there was a meeting of the member? of the Self support Band with the Mission Council, to consider what should be the future lelatio i of the Band to the Conference and to the work of the general mission. The good understanding which prevailed at the time is indicated by the following resolution of the Council : " It >v:is moved by Dr. Cochran, seconded by Mr Saunby. and resolved, That this Council hereby extends cordial and hearty welcome to our brethren of the .Self supporting Mission liapd to a share in the evangelization of J.ipan, and would invite the brethren present to unite with us in the consideration of any plans of work that may be common to us both," ' While r< formed the that the mc were in a si were workii policy, and regular wor it is not to harmony wi tion of its to have be members of it wa- resoh Mr. Moore, any official t days afterw.' onded by M been rescint "Th.it wh Band h,is be him permiss necessary." It may be ever went bt ing the (leni in regard to much corres Early in i ing him to g views respec of April he r order : " I. ' Was never rc^ardf first I saw th; believe that ii been a seriou aster. When You would b( influence— yo lice, who appj dangers hefo came. Afte I answered i lesponsibilii bubble save Why did .\> ret rn honn post tempo connection would have up by our home, or if t careers. "2. ' Dia course, if yii must be tor i Haml. and the institiUii "1 '/I', colla|)sed fn because it li to a>;ree wit randor... the failure scape),'oat. in some rcs| failure. If hope he wil may respon injj, 11 we lu choose the In Dr. K referred to affirmed th Secretary a more volui tion to tlie was preset never shouT^ got into hil to the Selfl 'Thiiudi 8 ^p?f= PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. Joiird the read- While recognizing the good intentions of thoie who formed the Self-support Band, results have clearly proved that the movement was not a wise one. These brethren were in a sense in the mission, but were not of it. They were working on a difTerent line and pursuing a different policy, and when at length they wltc received into the regular work and became members of the Mission Council, it is not to be wondered at if they found themselves out of harmony with the policy of the Board and the administra- tion of its officers. Even before the transition there appears to have been some apprehension on the part of certain members of the Council, for at a meeting in January, 1891, it wa- resolved, on motion of Mr. VVhiitington, seconded by Mr. Moore, "That no member of this Council shall hold any official or business relation whatever to the Band." Two days afterwards, however, on motion of Mr. C.issidy, sec- onded by Mr. Saunby, the precedin.j action seems to have been rescinded, and it was resolved : "That whereas Dr. Khy's relation to the Self-supporting Band has been recognized by the authorities at home, we jflve him permission to render them whatever assistance may be necessary." It may be remarked here that no action of the Board ever went beyond the tacit recognition involved in icquest- ing the (lenenil Superintendent to correspond with Dr. Eby in regard to volunteers, although it does not appear that much correspondence took place. Early in 1894 I wrote privately to Dr. Macdonald, ask- ing him to give me a frank and unbiassed expression of his views respecting the Self-support movement. On the 20th of April he replied* as follows, taking my questions in their order : " I. ' Was i I a wise morcmcnt, a necessary mtniement f I never regarded it as either wise or necessary. From the very first I saw that there could be no perinaneniy about it, and 1 believe that my attitude saved the Hand from what would have been a serious embarrassment and many individuals from dis- aster. When I was home last the Band furore was at its height. You would be astonished at the number who were under its influence — young men, men with families, physicians in prac- tice, who appealed to me about going. 1 put the facts and the dangers before them in such a w.iy that not one of these men came. After mv return to Japan, letters of inc|uiry kept coming. I answered them honestly, ,ind threw the incpiirers on their own responsibility. 1 believe that my appreciation of that li.ind bubble saved many from coming out here to meet disaster. Why did Ayres and Chown and McLean lirown withdraw and ret rn home? Why is lirokcnshire now in Yokoliama filling a post temporarily, if there had been any permanency or hope in connection with the so-called Selfsiippoit movement ? What would have been the position of the other men who were taken up by our Mission .' They would have been obliged to reiurn home, or if they remained, they would have been men of broken careers. "3. ' Dili it accomplisit any real i^ond while it lusted f ' Of course, if you put a Christian man into a school his influence musl be for good. I'he Tabernacle was the he.ad centre of the Hand, and the Hand contributed a considerable sum toward the institution. " ^. ' H'liat leas the real cause of the final collapse f It collapsed from the si.mo cause that a bubble collapses ; it died because it had no root. I, of course, would not expect Dr. Khy to agree with me in these statements, but I am not writing at randor.i. I was a good de.il amused when 1 saw that he put thr failure of the band on you. I thought I was the general scapegoat. As Dr. ICby is introducing a new scheme similar in some resp-cts to the Hand, he had to account for the Hand's failure. If Dr. Kby succeeds in l.auncliing his new scheme. I hope he will not de|iend on the Mission to absorb those who may respond to his call and come to Japan, ("lenerally speak- ing, if we need to be reinforced, it is jar safer for the Hoard to choose the men and send them out in the regular way." In Dr. ICby's report of the I'aberiiacle work for 1890 9^^ he referred to the disscihition of the Self-support movement, and affirmed that it was due t > the opposition of the General Secretary alter his return from Japan, which prevented any more volunteers from going out. 1 called Dr. P^by's atten- tion to the matter at a meeting of the Executive when he was present, and he at once replied that tie statement never should have been mide, and he was very sorry it had got into his report. As a matter of fact, my only reference to the Self-support work, aftcfr returning from Japan, was to "Ttilf uid IODIC other lattert wort penonfti, not offloitl. report to the Board my conversation with the workers and my confident hope that there would be no friction between them and the Mission Council. On a careful review of the case, my own opinion is that the Self-support movement, though well intended, :y, 1888, and Mr. McKenzie in December, 18S7. When this Self support scheme was in its earlier stages, the Executive was requested to aid in securing men and sending them to the field. After carefully considering the whole question, it was decided that the missionary authorities could not become responsible, financially or otherwise, for men whom they did not appoint and could not control ; but the General Superintendent was requested to aid Dr. Eby by way of correspondence. At a subse- quent period (in 1888, I think) the Mission Council asked for a grant of 500 yen in aid of the Self-support work, but the request was refused. In communicating this result to Dr. Macdonald I said : ''In view of the oft repeated assurances from Dr. Eby that the self-supporting missionaries would be no charge upon the funds of the Society, the application did not produce a favor- able impression upon the members of the Hoard." I have referred to these facts to show that from the first the Board declined to assume any responsibility for the Self- support scheme. Income of Missionaries — Ground of Claim. After reaching Japan, Messrs. Crummy and McKenzie secured good appointments in government schools. The salary of each was 200 yen a month, equivalent at the then rate of exchange to about $150 in gold, or say, $1,800 in gold per annum. 1 cannot speak positively as to whether there were any perquisites, but am under the impression that in each case a house was provided. It appears that at that time there was an understanding or agreement among the members of the Self-support Band that each should retain from his earnings a salary eijual to that of a mission- ary, and pay the balance into the fund of the Band, from which fund also he was entitled to receive his expenses out to J"pan. Mr. Crummy waived his right to these expenses, saying he would pay this out of his own income. Mr. McKenzie did not waive his right, but received his expenses, as I shall presently show. The ground recently taken by Mr. Crummy is that he has both a moral and a legal claim to his exi)enses; that he was assured by the Mission Council before entering the mission that they would he paid (though, I may say, there is no reference to this m the records of the Council of that date) ; that he paid these expenses entirely from his own income, earned while teaching in Japan, and did not receive them from any other source. .As previously pointed out, Mr. Crummy entered the mission in 1891, after spending over three years in connection with the Self- support Band. The Claim Formulated. The first official reference to this matter I find in the action of the Mission Council in .April, i8gi, wher. it was resolved that supplementary estitnates for Messrs. Crummy and McKenzie's travelling expenses and furniture grant be forwarded to the Board, and an immediate reply ■.kJKtwci-,^-:^^ 24 GKNERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1895. rcquc5ted. When this c«mo before the Kxcciitivc il was decided that the Treasurers he nuthori/od to make tho usual allowance for furniture; but the ("omniitlee was nut pre- pared to lake action in regard to the travelling expenses to Japan until further information was obtained, In Marrh, 1892, Messrs. Crummy .iiul McKen/ie were asked by llie Mission Council to fornnilate a stalemeiil of Iheii i laim for presentation to the Cienerul Hoartl ai its next nueiing. This was done, and the stati'uienls weri' dulv laid before the Hoard, but the el.-.im was not roneeded, an. I the fact was communieated to Dr. MaedonaUI. When the letter was read to the Mission Council, aetion was taken ns follows : "It was moved by Mr. .Saimin, -ounuteil by Mr, I'assidy, .mil unanimously carrieil, thai this Mission l oiim il lipinn tiriulv convinced of the justice of ilie i laim ol Mr»si>. MrKcn/ie and Crummy, to have tlii-ii travellln>; i'\|»'iisc> to j.ipan re> miped by the Hoard, now ben '" pieseiit the lollnwinj; (acts m re^>;ard to the matter : "1. liefoie entering the mission, Hros. McKen/ie and Crummy distinctly asked the Mission I'oimcil, as a condition on which only it w.is possible for them to enter the missiDii work of the Hoard, whether iIicm' expenses vuxiM be paid. and the Council haviiij; before llirm .ill the l.ii !■. o( (he c,i>c. answered that they inosi cen.iinly «oiild be, I lii> .issiirance they gave unhesHatinnly, noi onlv bri.iiiM- they believed the claim to be perfectly legitim.ile, bm also beiaiise m doin^ so they were following the precedent establisheil by the Hoard itsell in the case of Mr. Dimlo)", vshu h »a> the only p.ir.dlel case in the history of the lni^>ion ' [.\s already intimated, llurc is notliing 111 the Minnies of the Mission Council to eonlirin ibis slalenunt ; and il tliere were, it would be a case in which the t 'oumil clearly exceeded its |>owers. ) "2. That the reasons vvhiih, oiu>ide "f pi.redem, led the Mission to believe the > laim .i iiisl one woie as lollows : ;.tni/alion p,i\ llieu '.i.nellinK expenses, {d I'Jieir expense- c.nire enliiely ont of then own earnings herein Japan, (i ) The iiimliicMl oiyani/iiiion <:alled the Self-supporting H.iml was torined by llios Mi Ken/ie, (.Crummy and Dunlop, who, to help the work of then own t.'hun h and tins mission, agreed to -el apart a iciiain sh.iie of their s.daries for the purpose of .i—i.-tinn cvannelisiic v\oik. (■/ The whole of the income of the H.mil, iheiefoie, w.i- made up c.f person. il contributions by these brethren, who ihrniselvr- formed the organiiation in which they winked, .md ihe i ase is ipiite the same whether they all tonelhtr paid iheir liavellin^; expenses or each paid his own. («■) The only rxception to this is Mr. Cruminy, who paid his own independently, and besides helped the other brethren to pay ihi irs, , / Kvciy cetU raised by the Hand was expended on the work ol the inissi.in, '■ 3. The I ase, therefore, stands Ihn* Two brethren, who, Ik-i ause they formed a little piiv.tteor^.mi/ation .md contributed a large .imouni of money to help along the work of our own Churcii, are refused then tiavellini^ exjiea-es . whereas, h.td they worked separ.itely and saved i then earnings they would have had then expen-e- allowed " Comments- -Ailii"! of Ihe lioar,i Tht Sfi'rtfitry's Letter. A brief .ominent on some ol ihesi points may be allowed, (i) As the two brethren nferred lo"weir not sent o\it bv any organization whauver, that is, wrnl out pinel\ of their own volition and on mdepeniUiu Inns, it is dilheull lo sic on what just grounds tliey can claim lo li.ivc llieir I'xpi-nses recouped by an organualion thai iinployed them three years afterward. (2) If .Messrs. t rummv ,iml McKen/iepanl travelling cx|)ensis out i>f then own lariiiiigs, llnir earnings were large 1,000 yen (+750) per annum more than the allowance of a missionary, Mr. Criiiimu lell- ns 1 (i It is not correct 10 say ibai ihe Sell siipp..u Hand w.is jorined " to help the work of their own ( 'luircli .iiul ihis mission." It was formed to help one ul l>t. I^by's mimeroiis si liciiies, and most of llie inone\ .ippears to Imve been swallowed up by the Tabernacle ; 11 w,is not expended on the general mission. (4) It does not follow that if tlie two brellireii h irl "worked separately ami saved all ibeir einiiiigs, lliey would have hail their expenses allowed by llie Hoard. ' In all probability they would not. The case came .igain lieforc; the MoanI in if<9j, and the decision, on motion of j. J. Maclaren, seconded by Dr. Potts, was " 'I'hat this Hoard does mil see any reason for reversing its previous ai'tioii in lhi> matter." Some time afterwards I wrote the following letter to Mr. Cruminy as embodying the views of the Board : "Mkthodist Mission Rooms, "Toronto, December, iS<)j. "l)r..\K Hko.,- Your letter referring to travelling expenses was duly recei\ ed, but I have been unable until now to give it the attention to which it is entitled. You are doubtless aware that the m.itter has been repeatedly before the (ieneral Hoard and theConimillce of Kinance, and has received full considera- tion in the linht of the 1 mnmunicaticms, otficial and otherwise, forwarded from Japan. The last time the matter wjis t)efore Ihe Hoard your own letter of expliination, which it w.as assumed )ja\e all Ihe essential facts, and a statement of the grounds on which ymir claim was based, was read. Speakin)> now from inemor), the facts as we had ihein were substantially as follows ; " 1. That you went out to Japan .as a volunteer for Dr. Eby's .SeH-supporting Hand. " 2. That there was a fund out of whic^l you were entitled to receive your travelling expenses. " t.. That you voluntarily relinquished your claim, saying that ynn would meet iheni out of your own income. " 4. I'hat when the self-supporting work was abandoned the Mission Council recommended that you be employed in the regular work, but nothing was said about travelling expenses.* ■■5. That the Mission Co"ncil had no authority to promise that your expenses would be refunded, nor does it appear from ihe official correspondence that any such promise was given ; at the s.inie time, it i- not unlikely that individual members of Ihe Council may have expressed theii opinion that the iimount would be refunded. " (1. When your name li'-st came before the (General Hoard you were regarded by them as simply a minister in Japan, and the ipiestion of expense was not raised in ,iny shape. In all con- siderations since that time the un.animous opinion, as far as I know, has been that the lenyth of time you were in the self- siip orting work entitled y 10 expenses from that source, and that il for any re.-ison you lined to receive them, th.it fact does not constitute a valid claim upon the General Board. The only case analogous to yours is that of Hro. McKenzie, .ind it has been dealt with in the same way. In one other instance we recouped the Victoria College Missionary .Society for the expense of -endinn out a worker, because he was t.aken into our employ very -horily .ifter he re.iched Japan. "With kindest re^.trds, and best wishes and prayers, " 1 am, yours faithfully, "A. .SirrHERl..\NI)." The latest communication on this subject from Mr. (rummv is the following letter, dated Tokyo, March nth, i,Si,5: "TOKVO, Afitfch \it/i, 1895. '• .Mv lil-.Ak 1)K. Si 1 iiiRl..\N|i,— 1 have been told by breth- ren at iiome that Dr. Carmr.n and yourself have a number of times of late staled that I was stranded out here, and was, .as an act of kindness on the part of the Hoard, picked up and given employnieni, or words to that effect. I sincerely hope that ihey mi-understood you, and should perhaps have con- cluded that they had, ,ind have ibopped the matter there, but for a -latemenl in the liiiiirdiiin, jusl to hand, dealing with a related subject, and which I feel should be corrected at once. 1 am ceri.iin thai as these statements do me great injustice, I h.iM- only lo point out that they are without foundation in fact, and \ou will no doubt be pleased to coirect them. "To this end then, I shall review the various steps by which 1 I .line into the einployincnt of the Hoard — and I m.ay just say to be^in with, ihal I >liall nol make a single statement that I am not able to prove either by preseniinj; the documents con- cerned, or hyuiving evidence, under oath, Ijefore the British Con- sol lieie. where the facts are of such a character that they must depend on per-onal evidence. "1. I reached Jrip.m in .-Vpril, 1888, and immediately entered into coniracl under the Imperial Department of Education as iii-tnii lor of Knglisli in the !• ifih lliKher Middle School, an .ilVilialed prcpai.iloiy depariir.eni of the Imperial University, -lUialed in Kiimanioio. .\s tins place is about eixht hundred miles ili-iani from Tok)!). .15 we then travelled, I seldom met any of the axenls of ihe Hoard during my stay there, and until October, l8Mv which date 1 shall refer to ajjain - I do net ihink thai the -ubject of my entering ihe work of the Hoard was ever menlioned between any of the members of the Council .md myself. Of one ihinx 1 am certain, the subject was never introduced by myself, or favored by me if it were introduced by anyone else. * 'Itier* i% A uliahl inaccuracy here. Ur. Crummy and Mr. McKcnit* wtrt l>oth l.tlci:ii itiro the SlU^ioti \Afnrr Ihe 8eir.MipfKirl plan was abamloiicd. 10 " a. The first of the Japan Mi the Council deci men" for ihe pt "3. Inpursua wrote me under "' Dear Mr. C Saunby to go to that coast. To we need a reinfc to suggest to th reinforcements, appointment to K'lidly reply at municate with t " 4. 1 replied considerable lei to Japan with a that I believed one that the Hu to try an experi that the Hoard tied with the co that as I knew < Mission against fore a straight should ask I)r. together, and t heard my mind them that the p seekiu); to sup| sacrificed, or if would in their c would abide by "5. I receiv casual intimatic determined to ; word about the in Tokyo in J Minute of the M 1889, ' it wasd Mission Board and Dunlop, w Japan,/f>»' our " 6. I lind al wrote to the (i the three men west coast, alo have men app Mr. Crummy, men and true, selves to ihe ' in important men to fill the McKenzie, in they will not t teaching. itppointeJ to have each mi fellow, and wi year . ' " In repb to be referred work. " 7. When nflicially that was asked wl nearly tifleen me so long al On the 5th appointment, lent, as silvei gold) per an beyonil my < mem which ' the following; and when 1 ii Ihe ordinal y ihe year, he : or five years, " 9. I had (mr Board w about $l,ooc condition mi /( * 111 the I let which would lie I Crummy incUuir PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 26 ■i^l'' . Crummy as OMS, eiiilier, iSgj. :llinK expenses now to give it oubtless aware (ieneral Hoard full considera- nnd otherwise, ttcr was before it was assumed the grounds on Ivinu now from ubstantially as Ef for Dr. Eby's vere entitled to ilin, raying that al)an(loned the mployed in the Ming expenses.* :)rity to promise > it appear from nise WHS given ; ual members of tb.it the amount cneral Hoard you I Japan, and the ipe. In all con- nion. as far as I lerc in the self- thai source, and : them, that fact eral Board. The tcKenzie, and it ie other instance .Society for the ras taken intoour d prayers, Illy, illTHF.RLAND." tiject from Mr. ;yo, March i ith, tn/t ]if/i, 1895. ten told by breth- lave a number of here, and was, as 'd, picked up and I sincerely hope irhaps have con- uKitter there, but nd, dealinjj with a Lorrceled at once. grcM injustice, 1 nnndation in fact, lem. us steps by which nd I may just say : statement that I e dDcuinenls con- re the Hritish Con- ler that they must mediately entered t (if Kducation n^ ^liddle .School, an pciial University, >ut ei^ht hundred led, I seldom met ly there, and until again I do not : of the Hoard was rs of the Council subject was never ere introduced by it Mr. MLKcnji* tvirr . jitwtHloiitd. "3. The first referfiiice I can find to the subject is a Minute of the Japan Mission Council, dated October 7th, 1889, in which the Council decided to ask the Hoard for " three experienced men " for iht prrfosed new ivork on tht west (o*tst. "3. Inpursuanccof this resolution, I suppose, Dr. Macdonnid wrote me under date of October lAth, itOsg, as follows : " ' Dear Mr. Crummy,- -We are making arrangements for Mr. Saunby to go to Kanazawa. There is a fine field for woik over on that coast. To carry out our plan for the work of the mission we need a reinforcement oj about three men. Would you allow us to suggest to the Hoard that in case they giaiil our rei/uest lor rein/orcements, you be appointed ? Woulil you accept an appointment to the mission to take effect after the school year.' Kindly reply at your earliest convenience, as we wish to cou\- municate with the Hoard .is soon as possible on Mission affairs. \'ery truly yours " • (Signed), |). M.\l I'ONVl.li ' " 4. I replied under date of October zyn\, iSSij. by a letter of considerable length, in which I pointed out that I did not come to Japan with any intention of entering the work of the Hoard : that I believed there could be had at home two iiten f'oi ever> one that the Hoard was able to appnini ; that my sole aim was to try an experiment as to whether 1 coulil supplement the work that the Ho.ird was doing in this country ; that I was not satis- fied with the completeness of the experiment at th.u time, yet that as 1 knew there was prejudice on the part of Mime in the Mission against the .tims of the sclf-supponinj; men, and there fore a straight refusal on my part might he misuu'lerstood, I should ask l)r. Mardonald ami Dr. Kby to talk tlio matter ovei together, and to pray over it tojjether— as Dr. Kby had often heard my mind on the i|uestion-and that if it ap(>eaied to them that the principle for which 1 was in the country— -that of seeking to supplement the work of the Hoard -wouUI not lie sacrificed, or u this were outweighed by any special benefit that would in their opinion result from my entering the Mission, I would abide by their decision. " 5. 1 received no ol^icial reply to this letter, but only a casual intimation in a letter from Dr. Kb\ that the Council had determined to ask for my appnintnien?. I never lieaid another word about the matter, nor asked anything about it, until I was in Tokyo in January, iSiji. 1 tind, however, iho following Minute of the Mission Council : At a meeting dated tictober* 1 st. 1889, ' it was decided by resolution that we recommend to the Mission Hoard the appointment of .Messrs. Crumniv, McKen/U' and Dunlop, who are now eng.iged in self supporting work in Japan,/(»»' our new trori- on the u'esi ,o>is/.' "6. I tind also that on November 4th, 18S0. Dr. Jdacdonald wrote to the (ieneral Secretary as toilows : ' II you can give us the three men which the Council li.ue indi< aled were lor the svest coast, atonj; with Mr. -Saunby, the Council would be glad to have men appointed who are already on the giouml, namely. Mr. Crummy, Mr. McKenzie and Mr. Dunlop. I'hey are tried men and true. They have experience, and have adapted them selves to the work here. Mr. .McKenzie and Mi. trumuu are in important schools. The Self-supporting Hand will get out men to fill their places if needful, but If Mr. dummy and Mr. ^^cKcn^ie, in order to hold the places, .-.hoiild teach after ,\pnl, they will not »lraw salaries fiom the Mission while they aie thuv leaching. Il'e earnesl/y liopc l/utl lluse thtec m,n will be appointeii lo the .Mii.\ioii. Messrs. McKen/ie and Crummy have each made a c.ipital impression. Dunlop is also a line fellow, and will be able to pieach In J.ipanese nexi Conloieucr year.' " In repl\ to this you pointed out th.it the matter would have to be referred to the Hiiard. as it related to extension nl ilir work. "7. When in Tokyo on Janu.iiy tnl. 1X91, I w.is informed officially that the Hoard h.id in.ide my appointnient, and was asked whether I acrepte;ree- meni which could not be lermin.ucd at my own iilc.isure In the following Manli 1 lenewed m\ contract lor another yeai, and when I inlimated to the director tli.it though I would accept the ordinary form of contract, yet 1 did not intend to complete ihe year, he sought, b) promising lo extend the loulr.ict to twn or five years, to Induce me to iciiialii In theli seivice. " V. 1 hail never heaid before what a missionary's salary tinder our Hoard was, but had the impression lli.it 11 was sometliing aljout Jl.ooo. However, in order lo know what my linancial condition must be before 1 could aflbrd lo enter the work of the " 111 the ( icncml Sprrrriir>-'» review Mr. Cnii'imy \ salirv i* «tMtU «l i,i\x> v«ii, wliicli woulil tic r«iuival«iil .it ilie lima l» .ilioul $t.lt.«. in golil. It iiiny tw llinl Mi. t'rummy Incliitlr^ v.*Iue of .i lioii«« 01 Mimr .rth^i |icn)iiiHii«t. Hoard, I agreed with Mr. McKenzie who had decided a couple of days earlier than I to accept Ihe appointment, that he should ascertain for us both exactly what remuneration we might ex- pect to receive. Dr. Macdonald, in the presence of all the meml)ers of the Council, stated explicitly and without any con- dition that our allowances would consist of a salary, with which were connected certain other specified incidental grants, together with the usual furniture allowance and travelling expenses, mentioning the amount of each item. Mr. McKenzie asked definitely whether this last item would be paid, seeing we were now on the field, and Dr. Macdonald answered that there was no doubt of it. Dr. Macdonald seems to some extent to have forgotten these details, and we have had until recently 10 de- pend on the testimony of others present, which however was ijuile sutficienl, but we are now able to present a letter of Dr. M;tcdonald s, written a short lime alter (dated May 2nd, 1891), in which he practically acknowledges the promise by stating that the amount would without doubt be paid, but excuses his not having paid it before that, on the ground that the money w.'is not just then on hand. "10. \l'hen I reported for work I was appointeii at the Hoards direction to Toyai .a, a field to .. hich our Hoard had never tie/ore appointed a foreign missionary. " Every point then in these statements 1 am ready to prove, and from these it will be readily seen : ( 1 ) That financially I was far from gaining anything by accepting an appointment under Ihe Hoard, since I accepted a salary a little less than half of what I was then getting and could have continued to get for vears ; v^' that I sought neither directly nor indirectly to enter the Hoard's work, and moreover had no inducement whatever to do so, unless it was lo have a chance to do more effective mission work, and that as even on this point I was not certain, I Wiis guided altogether by the wish of the brethren in the Mission ; and ; .?) that there w,is a distinct agreement before witnesses, and now certified by his own letter, on the part of Dr. Macdonald, who I now understand has all along been regarded as the representative of th; Hoard, that I should receive my tr.ivelling expenses from Canada, and I believe in equity the conlr.act which a duly accredited agent enters into in the name of his piincipals holds good, whether he is given instructions in that particular case or not. 1 refer particularly to this, as [ underst.ind this was the item that called forth the lirst of the two statements that I am now objecting to, and not only will this be readily seen but also (4) that any statement to ihc ertecl that I was picked up by the Hoard because oul of einploymeni is wholly without foundation in fact ; and (6) that the statement in.ide in the (luardian of February 6th, over the signatures of yourself and Dr. Carman, '.hat I was either ■' taken into the regular work to supply a vacancy," or " after the .Self-support Hand was dissolved," is likewise wholly con- trary to the facts. ■' I don't know why this Latter statement was made. It really looks. Ill the cmmection in which It stands, as if it were intended to minimize the significance of the present complica- tions by calling attention to the fact that we were not ordinary .ip|)ointecs of the Hoard, but rather makeshifts. Hut I prefer 10 believe myself mistaken on this point, for I can hardly bring myself to believe that two fathers in the Church could deliberately undertake to throw discredit on the reputation or status of younger men by the use of stattnients which they ha\e noi taken the trouble lo verify, and which .actually prove to be conirary to the facts. However, .as 1 Intimated .above, I am sure you will see that 1 am askin ', for nothing but simple justice when I leipiesi that this statement be withdrawn as well .IS the other II you have been correctly reported — made in the Hoard or Executive Committee, and that the withdr.nval be given eipial publicity with the original statements. " May I add that this question did not at all enter into our iciion in .asking to be recalled, nor did any other persona .;iiovanie, small or gieat, unless as one of the many misunder- standings which I Intimated in my recent letter to you as having existed In such numliers durlm; recent years, and which, iflhey came into the case at all, did so only so far as they served to confirm us in the wisdom of our course. " 1 should like to say further, that while I am not In possession of the documents that refer particul.arly to the other brethren alfccied by these two statements to which I have called atten tion, I am convinced that the statements themselves arc ecjually inroriect with regard to them. '■ I have not deemed it .advisable to make this a public m.itter. as I was confident thai a private letter was all that would be needed. I have therefore written lo Dr. Carman and yourself alike on Ihe subject. " In extracts cited in this lelter from documents. 1 have iiuderlined certain cl*r ^s thai I wished to call particular . mention to as referring especially to the matter In (|uestlon. " 1 remain, ■' Very sincerely yours. " Ebi!;r Crummy.'' n jd!^^^kM- 3« GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1885 A/t. MeXtntie's Claim. Turning now to Mr. McKen/.ie's case (he went out just beforo Mr. Crummy did, and hei-ame a member of tine Mission Council at the same time^i I iind the facts clearly stated in a letter of his to Dr. Macdonald, dated May (jth, iK^i, from which the following is an extract : " With fevjnrd to travelliriK expenses, I have evidently been under a misapprehension. As I understood it at the Council u)«eiiu)( last Christmas (or New Year's), 1 stated it in my other letter; Inn as wliat w.is said there about Mr. Uunlop's case was uiiile inform.il, tlieie was room for misunderstandint;. " what I was to have received from the Hand was J550 ({old — $3 o for myself and $250 for Mrs. McKenzie. My own allowance was, as you see. larjje. This was probably so made, for I do not remember what was said at the time, on account of certain losses rtnaucially which I had to bear in jjeltint; re.idy and coming out ; for example, in beintj for some tiuic without salary, and in some other ways. In the matter of Mis. McKcn/je's expenses, I did not receive the whole allowance. The reason ol this was based not on the cost of the trip, but on the financial condition of the Hand. When we came to straighten up .tccounts ai the end of the summer, about seven months alter I arrived in Japan, there was a difference between the . sides of the Hand's account with me to the extent of some 368 or J78 yen. As the Hand was then in its inception, the treasury was not full of funds, so that I agreed to accept tins difference and call accounts sc|uare. There were compensations, however, in other directions, as my •allowance for the year (and ever since) was made on the b.isis of my tinancial condition, so that in addition to my rc^jular salary I was allowed an extra amount in consideration of my debt. "You will see, therefore, that there are certain matters in my dealing with the Hand on this question which the Hoard would not consider. I'he actual amount I leceiveil from the H,-»nd was WiS or 67,8 yen, something; over $550 yold as exchaii);e was then. " I'nder the circumstances, it will perhaps l)e best to neulecl these itealinifs with the Hand entirely." From the foregoing it will he seen that while Mr. McKeiizic's expenses out were less than $500 (about %^-)0 is the amount claimed), he received from the Sell-supiiort Fund, on this account, about $550, and during the re maining years of bis connection with the Hand, received as siilary a l.irger annmnt than the others, in coiisitleraliun of certain liabilities which he was irving to meet. On the first of the present month the following letter was rei eived from Mr. McKenzie: — " KARti/.AW.t, SniNsnr, •' Iai'\n, >'-•/>/. 'Mil, IH'.C). " Tnthf B'H.ni of Miuions of the M>llif>di.it (.liiu./i, Tonml''. <)ll^lri Misxion Cmuicil, to explain why the item of >M!M1.IKI fur the Ir.inlliii),' expenseB of inynclf and wife tii ■lapali ai{>in appears in the .laiian estiuiales I am loath to touch upon tliiH Hiihjeet a^aiii. but be.sides the fact that n 'W, lu ever. I holieve myself to have a ju»t claim to the imynieiit of tile item, theru are this year additional reiiKons for referrmn to it. Ill the tinit place. I uiuterntand. on the autliunty of the two brothien now at home, that the (ieneral Secretary has in KoAid or Coinniil'ie mietinijs (or both), jjroii^'ly luisrepresented the eireiiiiiHtaiiceit under which I entered the Minion, and han Orwell till »e oiivuinstanceaasa reamui for not giayinir this 1 laiiii* Kliowiii)^ the Secretary li' have taken niieh a pomiion in re;;ard to this matter, it in ipiite inipoK.stlile for ine tosiippoHe that this claim can ever have lia'l a fair loimideralioii at the li iniU of tliu HUthoritie.s. I appieht'iKi that before they are in a position to deal with the nialter properly they mud to have the iiiipreiwion left by the .Seeretaiy '» ntatenientfi reiioNid. In thy sei'oiid pla<'e, I have during Itie pant year found anioiii; niy correNiioii- deiice documents hearing' directly on tliih snhje-.t, lint of wliose exi>tulKU I had foi){otten. These I 11 w wish to iill'er for the conaideialioii of the Hoard. Ill the third place, I have ,'olle,'ted tenliiuoiiy from a nuinlier of thoBe who wer,' prem'tit on iIib ocoitKioii of my entering the .Mia.slon, and thin I winh alto to lay before you an niih'it.iiitiatini; my own ledtiinony as to the coiiditiomi under which I entered the »oik of the .Society. In onler, therefoiu, to put inyHelf right before the Itoanl, and to ■how that my claim m thin matter has been honestly and lioiior- »bly made, I bIoiII reliearae the Kteps by which I enlereil tlio Miuion, and indicate the reaiions 1 had fur lielievin); that the * Tbi» U tlmply aiiil abioluuly utitru*. The Secretary tnkdv noiuchtt«i«. menu m ere tiert rtftmd to. —A, 11. iUm undar oontidention wouk''. be paid without quMtion by the Board. The correipondence I refer to in thi* communios- tiun I am prepared to produce if neoesiary, and the ttatementi of foot I shall make I shall bu prepared to lubitaiitiate by my own legal alflrmation, where other proof is not available. I ■hall uiidurlme these parts to which I wish to call special attention. '1. I arrived in J.tpan toward the end of January, 1888, con- nected inyaelf with the Helf-supportlng Band, and received an appoiiitiueiit to thuOovorninunt fourth Higher School, situated ill Kanazawa. Here I remained until I entered the Miuiun on the lat of April, 1891. A» to the insinuation of the Secretary that I wiw picked up by the .Mission, being stranded in .lapbn, it is so far from true that ic/icii /uniiuMceii to the aiithuritie$ of the sehuol mij intention to Ivare them I icuji (i.iAed if a contract fur If /leriml of tii'u or tliree ijeiir* (the usual term at that time being one year) would not iniliue me to remain loith them. And as to the insmuttion that my entering the Mission was a financial necessity, a simple uonipariaon of rigures will show that had linanoial <|uestioim alone weighed with me, I should have remained in liovuiiiiiie.it employ. When 1 entered the Miiwion the BJklary / icus iiicinii;; Jruiii the nehoul wita worth in gold alxoil 9J,(nm.W per iinninn. The amount, I waa informed by the Cimncil, 1 .^hoidd lie likelijto reeeire from the Board ivaa 9I,(iOU.ii<), or jiml iilioiil oiieh'df. In addition to this item uf salary was the children's allowance, wh,ch in my case would not materially change the pi'o|H>rtion. Now if to this amount were adUed the furniture grant of iet;i50.(MI, which I received, anil the travelling expensen, «M'.>I>.(H), which form the subject of this coimiiunicatiiui, the utmost I could expect to receive dur- ing my first year in the Mission would be somewhat less than the amount I should receive from the school ; while in my necon I year in the .Mi.ssion I might expect to receive just about half the amount I ahould receive from the school. TIiih, I think, should make it evident that whatever motives I might have had for entering the Mission, tinancial conKidenitionH formed no (uirt of tlieiii, for from that side it meant a serious loss to me. .Xr to any claim that the Hand might have 011 iny salary, I may statu here that my cuntribiitiou to the Haiul, when 1 had made it, wan a voluntary one, and that ii-hen I hod aeeeiiteU nnj iiyi/ioiiitiiii 11/ to the 3/i.'Ui(iii, (inif /(I)' .iiiinc moiithn iirerioimly, I had fhtid ititthituj lit oil into the Treit.iKrij of the Jtamt, bid hoil full roiitriil of mil irhole milarii. Oonaeiiuolitly the drop in salary from *L',OOo!0(} a year to «I,OOO.I)() was a very real one. I wish to make it plain to the Board that the fird ateo, ■ not taken tiij me, bid 1 I have a recoUectiim ot having been approached, duiing the earlier period of my resi \ deuce in K uia/..twa, on the subject of entering the Mission Hut the ,ft'c.i coa.st I (|iiote from his letter, dateil Tokyo, ir' the Mission to semi your nime home for appointment After duly considering this recpiest, I wrote Mr. Saunliy tin: till' .Mis.sioii might submit my name to the Hoard if lliuy ^ desired. The reason that weinlicil most with me in coining i" this decision was. I bilieve, the prospect of being able to le;iiii the laiiL;iia).'e, and be aide to preach iniicli sooner in the Missi ii than I coiild lii>pe to do if I remained in the hcIiooI. " It may not be amiss in passing to call your aitention to iho error 111 the olhcial atateinent in the itiianlian of February b:li. to the eticct that some of the membeis of the Hand were taki 11 in to till vacancies*. Mr. Sauiiby speiks m the portion of lis letter (|Uoted of ' leinbucements,' and if any doubt existed tii.i; he referred to an extension of the work, it would bo removci by the entry 111 the ('oiincil iMiniiles of (Itoher llh win' shows that the (.'ouneil had decided to ask for thin iivn / llii projiimeil irorl: on Ihr iiml nuift ; and it may further !"■ added, that all three of the men asked for at that tiino went > new liidds lields until then not , cc .pied by our t'hurch. "A few ilays after sendiin! my letter giving pcrniission i the Council to semi my name to the Hoard, 1 received a l'e| !y from Mr. .Saiinby, and as tliia re|)ly shows inuidentally som 'liing of my position in the school at that time, and from wlm aide and from whom the proposal for my entering the Mis--!' e»iiie, I shall make some .piolHti,ins from it. The date Oetoher Hist, ItIS!'. With regard to the position in the sclc * Kvidently rtltrriiig lu thow flnt enlarini tlu Mission (rom tin Daml. K. McK. toii'itrd iiiif iittiriint the Mumioti 1 ituinbir.i of the Mij*,iion Coioe'l/. 12 PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 17 Ibhout quMtion hj In this communiOB- Ind the lUtemenU (ubitaiitiate by my not nvailsble. I ^h tu citll special anuary, 1888, con- and reoei'i-ed an or School, ■ituated red tlia Miuion on n of the Secretary ■trandud in Japan, <> the nuthoritiei of |A-fd if a contract fur turiu at that time III with them. And lie Mission was a f riKures will show with me, I should hen 1 entered the .vhiiiil was worth in uiit, 1 WHH informed frtnn the Board loaa dition to this item h in my case would w if to this amount It, which I received, I form the subject of tpoct to receive dui- somewhat less than ichoiil ; while in my to receive just about icliool. ThiH, 1 think. VL's I might have hud doralionH formed no 1 serious loss to mv. oil my salary, I ma.v id, when 1 had made / hiid orceiited iini mimlht iireciuiidy, I r of the lluiul, but hml ntly the drop in salary very real one. ird that the first ateii' I taken liij me, t>iil (>;/ ivu u recollection of ier period of my resi QUturiiig the Misaion on u'ttH It fonrernfititH, icIii'Hn he made a tour filimlier, IHH9. Mr iS'ioii, and 1 gave him ) the work in which I ter 1 received a lett> i Ml, in which he stateii e Mission' he wrote t" Jilt lioinu ti^i the Uoanl ew work of being able to leiuii I .siidiier ill the Misni u the Hchool. I your aitentiim to tin )v/in)i of February (ith. f the Hand were tak< ii 8 III the portion of li " any doubt existed tii.it ;, it would be removivl (if O.tiilier llh will. I 1 ask /")■ Ihrcf im'ii ' " ml it limy further \v IV at that tiine went i ■ il by our Church, r giving permission i lani, 1 received a re|'ly iiws iiiuideiitttlly bohh' t time, and from wln.l y entering the Mis^i' i from it. The dati' ' I iiosilion in the sfli' ' « • Minion (ram tta* Danil. Mr. Saunby says : ' I am sure it is the judgment of every one of us that yon men ought to hold $traight nn to yoiir present potitiont, and work under your present organiiiations hhIH you, as a Self-supporting Uand, Aitre men tu diup riijM into your placet.' And again: 'There is one thing in connection with (ukittg you to btcotne n memlier of the Mission, for which 1 hiii exceedingly sorry, and that is that I very unthiiikin;jly neglected to speak to Dr. Eby about the matter. It came about in thiH wise. You reineml>er mi/ nimikiny to yon on the mutter in KanwMWii. 1 did that unoHiuially, and not knowing what would be the action of the Council on our recommeniiittion. Voiir ntwH*!', however, ul that time qnieted me, and I said no more about the matter nntil Ih. Macdonidd, after a conversa- tion with Mr. Cassidy, tironijhl it up aijnin just the day before I started for Kofu, and osImI me tu write to i/oii, which 1 did, and off I went having no time to see the Doctor {i.e.. Dr. Eby).' Referring to the poxition I then held he says : ' Yon shonid continue a nieinber of the Kand and I'li yuiii' positiun nntil yon hiice a nutn to put riyht '.here.' " A reference to the Council Minutes sIiowh that the i'ei)ucst for the three additional men for work on the west coast was duly forwarded to the Board. " In what I have already written above, 1 trust I have shown with audicient cloarness that so fur os enipluyment nas cnu- cerned I u\is in no need of enterinij the Mi».'*ion ; tlmt finunciaUy I was much lietter off in llocernnwnt employ than 1 could expect to be ill the MisHloii ; and that so far from making any effort to enter the Mission, the praposids rauv entirehi from the side uf the Mission Council. And I trust that no one will have the effrontery to repeat the insinuations that have been made in thiH connection until and unless he is able to produce evidence of the truth of what he sayH. .\nd now having dis|>osed, aa I ho|)e, of the ijiiestion as to the circuiiistantes under which 1 entered the Mission, I shall giroceed with the i|uestioii of the travelling expeiiNea, and how I was led to believe on entering the Mission that they would \>e paid. "3. In dealing with this question of trnrclliny e.rpeu.vs, I should like first of all to call the attentiim of the Hoard to my position in relation to the Missiim Council and Hoard when I entered this work. All ihc neiiotiations in the iimtter \rerc, so far as 1 had any ahare in them, hetn-een me and the Mi.i.iion Council. I hint no corrrspimdi'me u-liatrrer with the Board. I waN not aware that there wii.s any necessity for coiiiiiiunicating with the Hoard. Whatever the Hoard did in the matter they id through the Mission Council. / nijurdcd the Minsion 'onneil as stundinij for the Bnunl. All questions I had to ask ibout any matter connected with my entrance into the Mission addresaed to the Mission Council, and the Mission Council lid luit III (i»i/ ca.v refer nte to 'he Hoard. The Mission Council ^ook the responsibility of aiisweriu^; all my (juestions, and did lo in such a way as to leave no doubt in my mind as to the legality of their proceed iiigs. In this ir/io/c matter the Conned, nd espeeinllii the i'hairmon of the Council, acted as If the Imna ayent of the Hoard. Now it should ber.memhered that from the time of my coming to dapaii I had no relation to the ""iasion Council, and was ignorant of the actual relation exist- ing belwnen the Council and the Hoard. If, therefore, the issioii Council was not competent to carry on the negotiations in question, they should have referred nie to the Board, lint ihis was not oven suggested, and I had no reaaon tu believe ;hat the Mission Coiiiuil was not acting strictly within its irovince in what it did ; and my experience since that time has lot led me to think that personal correspondence with the ■oard would have been expected, for from my entrance to the llissioii until with others I a.iked last year to be recalled from ;he work in dapaii, I was not, to the best of my recollection, lavorod with a single coiniiiiiiiicatioii from the Secretary or any )ther otticer of the Hoard. Everything has been dune through ;he medium of the Corresponding Secretary ir the Council in apan. 1 have thought it necessary to a right understanding of :he case to premise thus iiiiich. Now cominy directly to the ipiestion of the travdhini tpenses, I may say that thru irerc ilejinilely mentioned of tin- ry lieijinninij of t lie neyoliations, over a year before my accept- ice of appointment under the Hoard ; so that if tite Mi.- refer it lioiue is in itself an idication that the Council liiiil no doubt on the matter ; id this is further borne out by the correspondence which I lall ipiote from below. In the letter / n-rote Mr. Sannhy in Oclolier, IHHI), I stated t in case I entered, the Mission I shonid crpect to he rcciotpeil the matter of trarellinij erjH'u.tes. In his reply of (h'tohrr .V/.s/, •ead.V quotetl fnmi, ho says : ' Yon are }ierfectly riyht in your mantis for the refnndiny of your tiarelliny expenses, and if lo'.s*' yuii come in for yioir fnrnitnre alliarance. There is no nble on that srore.' The letter asking mo to allow my name go before the Board was written, it will be remembered, at request of Dr. Macdonsld. It it, therefore, altogether HttliMy that Dr. Macdonald did not ut my reply, and was unaware of what I Mid concerning the item in questiim. More- over, at the end of this letter of October Slst, Mr. Saunby states that a Council meeting has just been held, and that I among others have been recommended fur ap|iointnient to the work of the Mission. So I think it also very unlikely that the Couiwil wnt nnaua re uf what I had mid in regard to this item. I therefore regard Mr. Saunby's statement on this point as embodying the view of ihe Council at that time. " 4. It was not until the end uf IH'M that I heard definitely oj my appointment. I was at the time either on the way to Tokyo or in Tokyo. During my stay in Tokyo a Council meeting was held, which 1 attended, and at which I formiiUy accepted my appointment B'fore accepting my appuintmeut, hmcecer, I apiieareil hefure the Conned tu put certain qnestiuns with regard to my iiihA-, financial procisioiui, etc. 1 had alreiuly been informed that nothing was to be alhiwed for the time I had already spent in ,Japan, so that furlough need not be expected for seven years. But there were other points of importance on which the letter from home said nothing, and these 1 wished to have a clear understanding upon before I shimld decide whether 1 should enter the Mission or remain in the school. 1 appeared therefore before t.ie Council at a meeting held in Dr. Macdonald's house, and asl;ed the fulluuing nuestiuns, receiving the answers accompanying. I believe that I not only give the substance of these questions and answers, but alu) the order in which they were put. The ipiestions u-ere clearly defined, and the answers were clearly given : "(1) iyiiat shall my salary be! I was told that it would probably be that of a new m n just arrived from home, namely, 81,(M)0 to begin with. This answer was, 1 believe, baaed on the fact that the action of the Hoard requiring seven yeiirs' service before furlough indicated that we should be treated throughout as tirst year's men. " (2) What about cliildren's allowance I I was t(dd that as a matter of course I should receive the usual amount. "(3) Hhall I receive the fnrnitnre grant f Yes, I should re- ceive the usual amount, gi;i5t).0l). "(4) Shall I be recouped in the nuttier of my oio/i and my irlfe's tracelliny expenses lo Tapan t I was told that I shonid, and that the anionut regnlarly paid was a first class ticket from 'Turonto to Yokohanui, and SoO.OO incidentals. This amount I .thoidd receive. "(li) ,s/i,i(( / be put into the evamielistic work, or is there a likelihood of my being brought into the si'hiiol at Azabn f I was told that as I had been ashed for with a view to evan- gelistic work on the west coast, I should doubtless be stationed there unless some emergency arose rei|uiriiig my presence in the school. " These ,'iiiswers satisfied me, and I declared myself ready to accejit the appointment. Everything has turned out as the Council said, except in the matter of the travelling expenses. I may add that on the ocra.iion referred lo, l>r. Macdonald oc- ctifiied the chair iif the Cooncil, and that my iioeslions were ad- dressed prinoirily to him, and answered by hiin and the other members of the Council, each (|uestioii being talked over as the CISC seemeil to require. '■ / have taken the tronblc during the past year to write tu the rariiois members of the Council now out of ilapan, but tvho nere present on the occasion of niy a.ikinii the.^e ipwutiuns, namely : l>c. Eby, Mv. ff'liittiliylon, Mr. Cassidy, Mv. Kannby, and Mr. Moore, and o-ill niar iptnte pa.isiujes from their letters relatiny In this siibjicl. I have also received a .itatrnwnr from Mr. Diinlop, whose testimony in this matter is very iiii|>oriant, since he was one of the three n en icho hod been oslcd fnv in the anfomn of /X^'f, and was ol.io pie.^cnf in the nivefiny n ferred to. I have as yet not received an iinswur on the subjct from Dr. Eby. It may bo well to call attention to the fact that Mr. WliittiiiKtnii and Mr. Moore left .lapan soon after my entrance into the MLssioii, and before any trouble arose with the Hoard over this question. I now refer to the letters mentioned. "Mr. If'hittinylon says: 'I remember the meeting you speak of distinctly and all that you write about in a general kind of way. I could not now vouch for anything in pariiciilar although my mind gives assent lo all that you say. If you give precisely the Slime service as others, I nee no rcasuii in equity why you should not receive the same reward.' " ilv Moore writes: '1 reiiieniber distinctly the lueetiiig of the Council at Dr. .Macdonald's Iioukc, to which you ivt'er, but I have not a clear lecolhctioii of the exact iletaila of the meet- ing. 1 do reniembiv, however. Hint tin Conned gave utmv.itlf and Mr. Crinnniylo nnder.-iland llial ytmr Iravelliny e.epenses lo .Jopon n-onhl III- iiaiil by Ihe Hoard. Wliethi'r the Council bud author- ity to do that is another (|iiestioii. However, it is my o|iiiii(iii that the Hoard ought to have paid your expenses long ago.' '■ Mv. Sannby writes : * Tiie facts as you state them itre cor- rect and I only need require to add that although it was not within the juriKdictioii of the Council to guarantee your travel- ling expenses, yet two things we certainly iiiqilied in the answer t.'iven to your qiiehtions, namely : First, we gave you the posi- tive assurance that /our claim for travelling expenses wasa just 13 is GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 189B. one i sod Mcnndly, th»l judging from the put action of tho Rrwrri, we bdd every ruMoa to tMlieve that the item of travel- ling expenae* would be allowed. Moreover, if ray ineinury ■ervea lue riiiht, I heurd nothing that evening which would lead mu even to tuitpeot that there tvaa anything butuorftiut uUHuiin- ity in the miudi of ttie raerabers of the Council. '* Mr. Oiuudii writua : 'All I need tu aay in reply to yours i* that you deicribe the metiling held in Dr. Mioduualii'n atiidy exactly, aoourding ti> my recollections of the cask. I bolievu you asked the iiueations exactly as you state tlieni, and that the Council answered thum juNt as you havi written. I believtt, however, that the auowera were not given as absolutely tinal, but as the belief of tho Coiincil as to what the Board would do. Thia belief was founded on the ordinary rules alTucting appoint- ments, on Keneral principles of justice, and on the action ot the Board in Dunlop's caae.' "Mr. I'm iiiup writes : 'I reiiiumber distinctly the meeting to which you refer. It was held in the evening, in Dr. Mnc- donald'a study, Tsukiji, and on looking up my j;jurnal 1 Hnd that the date was January ;ur action and the guarantees which you had obtained on accepting appointment to the Mission. I cannot remember the order of your ([uestions or their wording, but I remember that there were some half dozen or mora distinct iiuestions, dealing with salary, travelling ex- penses to Japan, furniture grant, etc. Two of them, and the diflcussions tliat arose rugarding thcni, have especially stuck in my memory. These two are (luestioiu 4 and 6 of your list- namely, those relating to travelling cx|ieuses, and tho kind of work you were to be called to do. I remember these especially, because I took more part in th-- discussion of them than of the others. (1) In rtijtird tu tittrfUinij, I liarr a clrur nvUUit Ion tluit i/oti iKiT giionintfril the tra«elliiio expeimra of i/oiirnflf unit w^ft t<> Japan. Tht Coiinrtl iiynt to fur lu to ilfmizr the alloir- aiVf/orlmrrUimj. In eonnretiwt irifh this itrmiJiui, I heitnl fur thefimt timr of the nllmrnnce. of $50 iiUiuij irilli nu-h lulolt fart, fur iividentnlt. Yon iivir lUntitiellii i"""'"! ^'ij tin Cooiwil. rither thniiujii Ihr Cliiiir, or nt onij rntf, williufit ili.i»iil Inj Ho- Chair. Iluit yon tniiild Itt pui'l Ihfur iilloiiiiiwef, inelndimi tin- iitHuiinl fin- )iu-utenliil». (2) You were given assurance that you might reasonably expect to be continued for years to uomu lu the evangelistic work, as your appointment had l>»en asked fur for that wurk, and as you expressed strong preference for that work. In this connection, 1 might say tliat somr months later, again in Dr. Macdonald's study, in a omvemation between liim and myself, a question arose ai >mt supply f i r the A/.u kkpt in evan- gelistic work. I protested agaiust taking such .%n extreme view ot the Council's guarantee, but Dr. Mac lonald inaistetl that the guarantee was alnohite. I mention this to show that in one item, at leaat, the Chainuan of the Council held the Couiicil's guarantee n» binding, whether noted in the Minutes or not. Tliese plc'IgeH, ot course, I took as applying to Mr. Crummy's case iks well, whose iip[Kiintment was pending at the same time.' " The above I submit as corniborating my Htatement« concern- ing what passed at the Council meeting of January .3rd, IH'.il. Taken altogether, 1 think theylhow that there was no lack of deliniteness in the understaudini; lieta'een myself and the Mis- sion Council. Mr. Caasidy and Mr. Saunby intimate that there was something to indicatt^ that the guarantees were notaltsolute, but were the expressed opinions of the Council. ISut I do not think the i|uestion of the authority of the Council wan brought into question at all at that meeting. The f^iuncil spoke of these inattem as if there were and could Iw no doubt. They were perfectly satistied that the Boaril wouUI jiay my triivollini; expenses without queatiim. just n« they would |>ay my salurv. and having no doiibi themselves they expr«sseeen itisallowed. From that d^y to this he holda that it in iiiipiissi' hie that the Council cnuld have given auch assurances, that in, if he may be judged liy what he had said on the subjei t. " I mttrtd the Million on April ht, ISUI. In ii Irtter frmn l>r. MiurduiMid diit'd .April Z'th. /A'!'/, he writes as follows : ' I have sent for authority to |^>ay your travelling expenses and furniture grant. It will be necessary that I be furnished with a statement of your travelling ex|M)nses to Ja|jan, in gold, as |iaid by you. I shall have to send it to tho Mission Rrionis. If you rw(uire it, I can let you h»va a liktla munay on aooount ponding the adjustment of these mattork.' " I mnt •( rvplij to this letter iiiuler date of AfriH XlHh, Mid from a copy of it I qut e below : " ' With rrfiurd tu th tnirelling rxpeiutt, it iiyts $taM al Ih* I onnril tneHini) which 1 attended that there ica* a defhUt* olliwiinrr inndr 'nj the B nrd, iidinWu, a tirket mid fifty doUam for earh firriion. I supposed I should receive thia sum, unleaa a change of rat«s should bring in a now element to be consid- ered. The rate when I came out was (lUS, lint class, without sleeper. ... " ' Tlinnhn fur ijnnr offer tu adxance numey oii trarellingand fnrnitnre lUtinmnrr. My reason for enquiring if the furniture grant waa due is that I am jutying seven per cent, interest on a debt at home, and wished to send an order home for tho amount of the grant and put a stop to the interest. The travelling expenses I wish to draw here.' " In rrjily to this letter Dr. MacdttmUd imite me, under date of Mill/ 'lul, as follows : " ' i have written to Dr. Sutherland about your grant for furniture and travelling expenses. I shall likely hear from him liefore Conference. Tlir itnna mn$t lie ;xiint jii»l nuw munty in not ill hiintl. Your travelling exiiensea seem a little higher than they have been imyiiivi since the C. P. R. ships have been running. They buy a tiist-class ticket from Toronto to Yoko- hama. The tifty dollnrs extra are Hup|K>sed to cover all other e.vpenseH, Retting to Toronto, hotel bills, sleeping oars, etc. Since they have been paying •■TfiO for furniture they do not pay any freight. I think they should [lay for ime's library, but this ((ueHtioii will ha\e t^> lie referred to them. " ' Tlieii loirr fxiiil lotvlij for Mr. UniUup {hin fare when he flral .iiimi .."0, «"ld, SsJIJo'; for Mr. Beate, three years ago, |I220. They paid for Mie when 1 came, three years ago, gold, 92:W. The ticket from Tnronto was, 1 think, •180, which, with the extra 95(), uiade $2:10. If your expenses should exceed these amounts, it would be lietter for you, I think, to send in a datailed statement of your expenses, in gold. "' I iitn ^11 rii that i/oii liarr to intit for the moneii. Wlien uv rmkrdjio- Ihr npfiointmint of iioiirnrlfoiol Mr. OrnmiHiJ iiv iJuniU /i.iir »ii( III nil vntiiniiti: ilrHnilrliJ tinted, m that a ifiitnt cunUl hurr lieen nuiilr. At all events, we shall net the matter adjusted as siHin as possible.' " I Would call attention to the fact that I'li thi» run- driur there i.t no iioentiim rnimil in /ii ivhrtlier the Coiiiuil had ijixvn inr uworuiuea on the .inhjerl of tJif vayinenl of the travelliiuj r.r;i*iijii'.i. That i,< f jnti luiic in haiul. 'i. iiu stales that in an annlogouH ca-e, that of Mr. Dunlop's, the travelling uxpcn es have lately been paid, and that the pay- lueiit Hindu was of Mr. I>iiiiliip'.i ijepmineii irhen he ftrnt rarnf out. H. He acknowledges that it irn.s Ihromih the fnnlt uf the Cunnril thiit o'l 0-1 fi ntiliiieo' to ifiiif no /ml;/ for our imiiii'i/, since the Criuncil should have sunt an estimate home for all our expenses when th' y asked for our appointment. " In acciirdance with Dr. Macdonald's reiiuest. I sent him my account for tnivelliin; eipciiHus. and a few dayH later received a letter containing what I tliiiik in the last reference to this matter until th>^ Board Imil been heard from in the fall. It is dated May 18tli, and cniitniiis the following piMsage : ' I sent your last account for travullint! expenses to Dr. Sutherland, and asked his imineiliate aitciitidii.to that Item and to the furniture U'rnnt. 1 think there will nut lie any delay.' " Wliuii th,' subject iiiattuv uf the aliovH correspondence is ciinsidured in ciiiiiii't'linii with thu lime when it took place and the fact that Dr. Muodoiiald was the one through whom all the business wa.M traiiMicted between the Council or mjnelfonthe one hand and thu Unard nil th ' other, I do not see that any- thiiiu more should Ihi needed to i;iv« me a (lerfect legal claim to the item under coiisiduratinii Itut to lirinK out more clearly the injustice with which I liciiuvu 1 have lieen treated in this matter, 1 ■JmU refer to on iniiitoiioon nn.', already mentioned, in which piiymein of travelling expenses was made without question. "0 The .enK» (if not oven before his return), aa Ih: *Hib in an ontirt miispprshtiision. There waa no such utidsrsUndlnf, nciilier waa Mr. liunlop rM«u|M!d hia cxpeiiaea wtien Iw lint wsnt to Jspsn. —ma Review p. Ifi, rol. :i. 14 $^fl-^^mm^^^s3 PROOBEDINOS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 29 r>n Mcount im, md iiUil lit Ut* n dejiiiitf tifty doHarn uffl, unUtM be contid- without ureUiiuf and le furtiituN itereit on • the amount tnveUing luider dolt MmtianM'i Utitr t*d obott, and Mr. Dunlop'i uwii |>«noiutl (•Mimoagr, abalMUntly Motra. Ai\d,i^ Mr. CaMidy aavi in hit ■toMmant alrasdy quoted, om muon iMy the C'meiinl hnd no rfouM iAot my mimt\m» icould bt paid tnia that Mr: Diiulop't had 6Mn ixtM. Thia phata of the (|ui)iitinn has been presented tu the .iiit-n>>riti«a at hiinie before, but nu aniwer haK Iweii uiven a* tu why Mr. Dunlop'a claim wai [Mid, and mine, p.h well aa Mr. OruDimy'i, ignonsd. "7. In the Autumn, after the Board meeting, weird came that thia item had l>een diaallowed. I wrote to Dr. Mocdonald im the aubjaot, 'vnd in his answer, evidently forgetting the cor- reapondenoe which had paHscd between ub, and eHpooially hia statement that 'these itemn must be paid,' hu diuolainied all responsibility fur himaelf and the Counuil in the matter un the specious ground that since they had no aithority to give guar- antees, they never could have done mo, and then asked me to write up my own uaae. I had nu case with the Board, for all my neffutiations had been with the Council. This was the lirst time I nad been referred to the Board. But, ho far as I know. Dr. Maodonald has never taktiii any other pos tion than the one stated above. At the last meeting of the (^luncil ho saw the letter with his own statement, to the elfect that ' these items must lie paid, ' but whether that haa in any degree changed IiIh ncisition in the matter, no intimation, either direct or indirect, has as yet indicateil. Mr. Sdunhij riyhtlij underiitfHKl Ihe imiii- lion of thr Mimion Cuoitril, fur on heuring of the disallowance of the item he wrote me an fol'owa : ' I know you will feel strongly on thin subject, and I am with you ^u it. I am sure the matter will come e done. I do n t cure to express in detail trhat I think of Dr. Macdunald's conduct all through in regard to thia affair ; but I do regard him as chiefly to blame for the misunderstanding that has ariaen between the Board and myself aa a result of the ciintrovursy un thiH question. "8. A few words more, and I have done. I have-always consi lered the refimal of the Boanl tu imy this claim as an act of injustice. I i;unsider it au now, and I am likely to hold the same view either until the claim is settled, or until someone in authority at home will take the trouble to show with ttome degree of clearnesa that what 1 have advanced dues i>ut pruve my aim to the payment uf this item. T further fed that insult has been added to injury by aoiue high in authority in trying tu avoid the (uiyment of thia claim by caating aapursluiH i.ii the claimant.*' It is aina/.ing that such a thing could nave happened. Further, though I do ii'it wish to make my personal affairs prominent, I do wiah to let the Hoard know thut while I have been kept out of what T regaul an a juNt claim, I have been paying a high interest uii a debt which I had expected this sum in part to cancel, so tbat my loss tu-dav is nut simply 941)0, but 8000. " I ask fur a fair, 8<|unru. thorough investigation uf thia matter— a .lifting of the ovidunvu, and a finding in the case which shall either be an acknowledgment of the justice of the claim, or which shall show good and satisfactory reasons fur its disallowance. "I trust, iiIho, that thia shall l>e tlio last conimuuicatioii nece«»ary un tliifi s'ibject. I am an lioartily sick of it aa any- one can be, and hupo nut tu have to spend any mori' time in dealing with it. I am aware that the present presentation of this matter may lay me u|ieii tu the charge uf seeking to grasp more money (a charge not now against the uiiHsioiiarioa in .lapan) ; but I must hope that those with whom I am dealing will distiiiguish betwi>en the niern enih avur to obtain money and the endoavur tu have a jimt claim, or one which the claim- ant reganls aa such, justly and thoroughly dealt with. '■ Faithfully yours, " D. II. McKenzik. " Kukui, Kchizen, .lapan." |1)K. ScTiiKni.AND-IJofipn' resuming; tlio roadinj; of my sliitcnient iIhmv is a remark I wish to nwke on tlic jotter that hiia just l)een iviul. One part uf Mr. McKonzio's moat seriuu.s complaint is that statumcnts and in.sinuaticms woro made by myself in Ihi' Boivrii or Hunimittee very uiucli reflecting upon these two hretliieii, and (his they seemed to think Imil a very soriou.s iiitluence in leading the Board to reject the elaiin. The stuteinont of which they complain tu that I am reported to have said that tlu;y were atraiulod in Japan be<»use of the failure of the self- 'Thls is mtlnl) iintoundtt). No (uptnlonn were cast on anyone. ~A. S. support movement, and were taken up as an act of charity hy the Board. I have simply to say upon that matter that I did not say so. I knew from the Arat that Mr. Crummy and Mr. MoKencie came into the Mission before the Self-support Bund dissolved. It may have been that aymptoma or tliHHolution were already ahowing themselvea, but as a matter of fact they were received, I think, a year Iwfore the Band diHHolved. That I always knew. It ia hardly necessary to say in this Board that I am not in the habit of saying one thing and meaning another. I am not in the habit of stating untruths unless I do it in absolute ignorance, having been misled aa to the facts. I did state in the Executive Committee that the t^lf-support Band diHRolved, and that some of the missionaries were then taken into our Mission. I say so still. Complaint is laid thut r said also that some of tlie brethren were taken in to till vacancieH, and it is supposed I meant Mr. Crummy and Mr. McKenzie, and possibly Mr. Uuiilop. Now the only discrepancy between us is this : They say they were taken to supply new stations that were establisheKi, and I said they were tkl this in letters from Dr. Eby anri Mr. Cossidy. These two brethren were always present at our committee meet- ings. They chose to make their own reports of things to the brethren in Japan, and by making their reports in their own way have stirrere given in the Mission Council that these travelling expenses would lie paid. It does not ap|)ear to have Ijeen done by resolution, but by asaurances fiijin ineinl»>rs of the Council that they would be paid — and I am not disputing that at all. 1 said before that there was nothing of this kind in the reotjrds of the Council, and, of course, there would not I)e unless some resolutifiii was passed. I take it just us Mr. McKenzie put.s it, that he was lussured by the members of the Council that these exiienses would be puiil. After further discussion regarding the (|uestion of expenses, the Rev. Dr. Sutherland resumed the reading of his stjitoinent, as follows] : Further Facts and Condiisions. Before dismissing this subject, the following facts should bu taken into account : For these two brethren, as teachers, there was no permanent career in Japan. Their services might be discontinued at any time, in which event, if nothing else opened, they would have had to return home at their own e.vpense, as several others had to do. By coming into the Mission they secured a permanent position, if they chose to make it such, with a right to a furlough after seven years, and expenses met in whole or in part. As teachers they were paid on a silver basis, and had to take all the risks of .1 fall of silver. As a matter of fact, had they continued to teach, their 2,400 yen would have been worth the past year only about $1,200 gold ; whereas, in the Mission they arc paid on a gold basis, which is not subject to any change, with additional provision for children and house-rent. On the whole their position, financial and otherwise, was bet- tered by coming into the Mission. A word about Mr. Dunlop's case. It was contended by the Council that as the Board paid the expenses of Mr. 1 )unlop, who belonged to the Self-support Band, they should have paid those of Messrs. Crummy and McKenzie. The facts are these : Mr. Dunlop went out on the Self-si'pport plan, |)aying his own expenses, or getting them from some source other than the Mission Fund. In 1890 he was recommended to the Board for the regular work ; came home to Canada in the spring, again at his own expense ; was sent out by the Board the same summer, and his ex- penses paid in the usual way. 15 80 OBNERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1885. r) L<- Enough hu now been Mid to (how (i) that in the cam cf MeMr*. Crummy and McKeniie there has been neither injustice nor unltindnesi on the part of the Board or its officers ; (a) that the Council claimed to have acted with all thd facts of the case before them ; if so, they were aware of all that I have stated above ; (3) that the Council virtually tooli the position that the assurance said to have been given liy them to Mr. Crummy made it binding upon the Board to pay thn expenses ; (4) that latterly, when a demand, financial or otherwise, is made by any member of the Mission Council, the other members make common cause of it, and unitedly demand that concessions be made by the Board ; (5) that in the matter of grants there is need of great caution on the part of the Board and Executive in order to prevent the creeping in of abuses and the establish- ing of unwise and even dangerous precedents. think, perhaps, that I am ipiaUng strongly, but whm I h«p< pened to mention in Committteth* information I hod recaivtd, there were indicaiiuns of universal disapproval If, however, I VI. THE CENTRAL TABERNACLE. Points in its History. As the Central Tabernacle scheme has been kept promi- nently before the public for a number of years, and as in the opinion of competent judges it has been at the root of most of the disturbances in the Japan Mission, it seems necessary to present the salient points of its history with some degree of detail. At a comparatively early period it was knowrx that Dr. Eby was projecting some very large schemes. In a lecture delivered, I believe, at a Missionary Conference in Tokyo, and afterwards publi.'ihed in pamphlet form, he proposed, among other things, to raise a fund of two millions of dollars, wherewith to establish a grand Christian University. With other evangelistic appliances in similar proportion it was estimated that in ten years he (Dr. E.) would no longer be required in Japan, and he would move on to India. Concluding later on that this splendid drearn could not be realized. Dr. Eby compromised on the Tabernacle scheme — a scheme much larger at the beginning than the one eventually carried through. In presenting the facts it will not be necessary to go back of r888. In that year recommendations came from Japan about the building of a Central Tabernacle, and asking a grant in aid. At the meeting of the General Board a large representative Committee of thirteen members was ap- pointed on Japan aflhirs, and their report, re the proposed Tabernacle, was unanimously adopted as follows : " Rtsoli>ed,— T\\M in the opinion of your Committee it is very desirable that a Central Mission be established, and that the aid asked for — one thousand yen — be placed in the hands of the Committee of Consultation and Finance, provided it can be met without infring-nu on current income, with the proviso that before committing themselves to a permanent scheme, full particulars as to plans and mode of expenditure be submitted to them [i.e., the Council] for consideration. "Your Committee also recommend that in view of the pro- posed expenditure in the matter of the Central Mission Hall, the present attitude of the Union question, and the important interests of our missions in japan, it is ,-tdvisable that the General .Missionary Secretary visit that country, at some time before next Conference, in the interests of our work." r/u Architectural Plan. In regard to the erection of the Tabernacle, I refer to a circumstance of minor interest in itself, but important as showing how needful it was for the Board and its repre- sentative in Japan to keep a watchful eye upon the entei- prise, and to exert a repressive influence at times, even in regard to small matters. In a letter to Dr. Macdonald, dated .March 9th, 1 889, I had occasion to write as follows : " Indirect information reached me lately that Dr. Eby has planned to build the Central Mission Hall in the form of n circle sixty eight feet in diameter, divided by a straight partition into two unequal portions, the larger one to form the audience room for preaching and lectures, and the other to be divided into rooms for various purposes Unless there are reasons th-it I know nothing about, I do hope you wilt try to dissuade Ur. Eby from building after the plan proposed. At this critical juncture in our work in japan we do not want to be handicapped by a structure that will be the laughing-stock of both foreigners and natives, and may prove quite useless
s,«ii vimmyftv^mt- », •■<#■>«>.•, . am on the wrong scent, and am eithtr misinformM or entiraly ignorant of the weighty reasons that may have induced th« Mission Council to sanction the erection of a building of the kind referred to, you must j jii lake my suggestions in this letter lor what they are worth, and keep ihem quietly in your own possession." Under dale of April 16th, 1889, Dr. Macdonald replied as follows : — " Ai to the Central Mission Tabernacle ; You will observe that we do not call it ' Hall,' as we do not wish, even in name, to countenance the idea that we are founding a lectureship. We think that that mission will be a success, not in proportion to the number of lectures delivered, but in proportion to the fidelity with which the Gospel is preached ; we have therefore resolved to keep the enterprise on Gospel lines. " As to the shape of the building : Some of us would prefer the parallelogram to the circle, but on being assured that the circular form was all right, objections were waived. I brought wha you said before the Council. Dr. Eby was absent. The feeling was that the question should come up again in Dr. Kby's presence. The question of shape is therefore again to be considered. The structure is not to be a complete circle in any case, but a combination of the circle and the parallelogram (horse shoe shape), as the circle would give awkward rooms in the rear. " I think that the Council will feel inclined to wait till we hear from you before going on with the building. Dr. Eby hired the old Univeisity Hall for his lectures this winter, but I do not think that anything that will show on schedules will be accomplished till the Central Mission building is ready, so we feel that h.iving sanctioned the formation of the Central Mis- sion, the Mission should be equipped." H9U> th* Tabernacle was Evolved. In showing how the Tabernacle developed, I cannot do better than reproduce the following letter from Dr. Mac- donald,. dated May 6th, 1889 ; — " The Tabernacle his reached its present state by a kind of evolution ;— "1. When Dr. Eby first started the idea, he aimed s m a|>ologetic institute in which other missions should take a part; that is, so far as forwarding and supporting it were concerned. It did not, however, seem to us to be a line of work on which our own mission interests were likely to be advanced, so the idea was not supported. Why the other missions did not take it up I am not prepared to say. " 2. Out of this grew the proposal by Dr. Eby for a lecture hall, similar to the Maiji Kuaido. It was felt, however, that a lecture hall was not likely to be the means of gathering any results that would appear in our schedules at the Annual .Meeting. This may seem to be a very narrow and partial view ; but lectures in the evangelization of japan hold a place entirely secondary to the preaching of the Gospel. Indeed, there are not a few who think that, if pushed too far, lectures awaken dis- cussion rather than carry conviction, and that a too frequent reference to Spencer, Tyndall and others of like views, only serves to advertise these men and favors the spread of agnosti- cism. At all events the mission could not agree upon a lecture hall. " J. The Central Mission Tabernacle was evolved out of the hall idea. As I have mentioned to you before, it is to be the church of the Central Mission, a centre of evangelization in which the church idea is to be maintained, a church organized ; but, at the same time, the superintendent of the mission, Dr. Eby, is to be free to lecture to any extent that he may find sub- servient to the interests of the mission, or that the times require. We need large centres of this description. We are now build- ing Mr. Hiraiwa's church, which will seat about 800. The Council is a unit in its desire to erect this Tabernacle for the objects which I have indicated above, and thus establish another centre in an important part of the city. The Council, feeling that the Board had endorsed the enterprise, decided to borrow the money and go on with the building. The amount involved w,is so large that I felt that we must adhere strictly to business methods. " The brethren felt that it was too great a responsibility for them to assume, and the feeling seemed to obtain that it would be the better way to unite in a strong appeal home for permis- sion to go on with the building. Dr. Eby could not give assent to this, but stated that if the Council would not go on with the building at once he would go home by the next steamer and appeal in person. The Council did not go on, so Dr. Eby goes home. The Council took no action, and thus. 10 mi&,ivifj,,..^i:sJM^'-ii:' «u PBOOBEDINOB RE JA?AN AFFAIKS— THE SEGRETART'S REVIEW. 81 acdonald replied nt state by a kind of M flir at hit goltiy it eonctnicd, maritt nr credit, dtiervet no blama. " I bag to ttoi.At that we are one in the with to erect thli Tabernacle for in' purpose that I have indicated, and earneiily hope that the grant will be given." It will be teen from the foregoing that even in this early ■tage of the enterprise it was necessary fur thf ''Juuncil to exercise a repressive iivtlueiicu to preven. Dr. Eby from rushing on with a large undertaking on borrowed money. It is also worthy of note that it was the old Council that adhered to the wise conservative policy of referring the matter to the borne Board. As yet the new elements from the Self-support Band had nut come into the Council ; when they did there was no further effectual repression of expenditure. Dr. Eby Returns Home — A Neiv Siti" Procured. The Mission Council having declined to act, except by an appeal to the Board for permission to go on. Dr. Eby, without consulting the home authorities, hastened to Canada, arriving there perh.ips a fortnight or three weeks after I had started for Japan. A meeting of the Executive was hastily summoned, and, after considering the situation, passed a resolution directing Dr. V.hy to return at once to his work in Japan. He did so, and arrived there while I was yet in the country. During my stay I conversed freely with the Council, and with Dr. El)y after his return, con- cerning the Tabernacle scheme, strongly urging that the whole movement should be kept within the lines of legiti- mate Church work, and that there should be a reasonable limit to expenditure in regard to l)oth buildings and future maintenance. I found the Council quite in accord with my views (which, indeed, were those of the Executive Com- mittee), and even Dr. Eby seemed to acquiesce. In company with several members of the Council I visited the site that had been procured, but was impressed with a con- I viction that it was unsuitable. It soon appeared that the ! other brethren were of the same opinion, but said it seemed 1 to be the only one available at the time, and they would be glad if a better ould be found. Subsequently a meeting I of the Council was convened (June i8th, 1889), and the I following action taken : " Moved by Mr. .Siiunby, seconded by Mr. Moore, and [carried, Th.it, wherea.s we deem it not desirable to build the J Central Mission Tabernacle on the present site, a committee, Iconsisting of L)rs Macdonald and Cochran, be appointed to ■ procure, if possible, a more suitable site. " Moved by Mr. Saiinby, seconded by Mr. Whittington, and Icarrieil, That the above-named committee prepare a new set of [plans for the Central Mission Tabernacle, and present their, to [the Council. " Dr. Sutherland then gave the meeting the opinion of the linissionary authorities at home on the style of the building [proposed for the Central Mission Tabernacle, and expressed [the view that the building to be erected should be primarily a fchurcl'. "Moved by Mr. Cassidy, seconded by Mr. Cocking, and (carried. That we aim at |v ilding a church on the Central [Mission that will scat 600 people, and so constructed that it can be conveniently enlarged." Before I left Japan we succeeded in finding a much more iligible site, which was subsequently purchased, and on it |the Tabernacle building now stands. The Tabernacle Burned and Rebuilt. On returning from Japan, I presented to the General 8oard a full report of my official visit, which was cordially |eceived, as I have pointed out in another connection. The document appears in the Annual Report for the same Irear. In the beginning of 1890, plans and estimates were eady, and the Council decided to proceed with the build- ng at an estimated cost of 7,292 yen. When the structure |ras nearing completion, the interior and roof were swept kway in a destructive fire which left only the bare walls. As liese were comparatively uninjured, the Council decided to gin rebuilding at once as far as the funds on hand would \o, as delay would entail further loss. When word reached lie Executive, the action of the Council was endorsed, and they were authoriied to complete the building. The toul cost of the undertaking was provided as follows : Granted by General Board $6,724 7] Donations received at Mission Rooms 2,590 99 Collected by Ur. Eby In i88j-6 and 1889. . 2,102 55 do. do. injappn 6,83391 $18,252 19 Part of the above figures represent yen, but the actual cost in gold was $15,466. At a meeting of the Council held in Jul), 1890, detailed estimates for the completion of the Tabernacle were dealt with. It was found that 2,670 yen would be required, besides 800 yen of contributions promised. Whereupon "The Chairman was authorized to write to the Mission Hoard, placing the present state of (he I'abernacle affairs before them, and stating that If we do not receive a cablegram by August i6th, we infer that we will have the authority to draw upon the Mission Fund for the completion of the Tabernacle.'' The Executive agreed to advance the 2,670 yen, to be recouped in whole or in part from donations that might be received at the Mission Rooms for the Tabernacle. This did not seem to be entirely satisfactory to the Council, for at a mating held in December, 1890, it was "Moved by .Mr, Cassidy, seconded by Mr. Saunby, and resolved. That under existing circumstances, we are of the opinion that all money received at home towards the rebuilding of the Central Tabernacle up to December 31st, 1890, only be applied to the reduction of the 2,670 yen granted by the Board." The foregoing resolution came before the Executive Committee in February, 1891, and the record in the Minutes concerning it is as follows : "A resolution of the Mission Council referring to special donations received on behalf of Tokyo Hall since ist December last, was read. The request of the Council was that only moneys received previous to December 31st, 1890, be used to recoup advances made by the Missionary .Society. No resolu- tion was formulated, but the opinion of the Committee was that there was no good reason for this time limit, and the Secretary was instructed to communicate in harmony with that view." This little difTerence of opinion was subsequently ad- justed. Oversight of Taberncule Finances. • It would appear that as early as 1890 the Council saw the need of a careful oversight of Tabernacle finances, for in December of that year it was " Moved by Mr. C.issidy, seconded by Mr. Saunby, and resolved, That the Building Committee take over and investi- gate all the accounts of the Central Tabernacle from the very beginning of the enterprise, and give a full statement of assets and liabilities to the Council, and that the Treasurer (Dr. Macdonald) take over the complete management of all finances." A month later the Ccmmittee reported that the work had been done, and the accounts found satisfactory as to form. As the financial history of the Tabernacle has been commented upon a good deal, I wrote recently to the Rev. R. Whittington, asking for information, and received a reply dated September 6th, 1895, from which I make the following extract : " You ask for information concerning the Tabernacle and its accounts. " I had to do with the accounts on three occasions. " I. When I was appointed Treasurer of the Tabernacle Fund, I desired Dr. Eby to keep a list of the names and the amounts, but to have all subscribers remit direct to me 1 I to issue receipts direct to the subscribers, retaining the coupons so that Dr. Eby might check my accounts from his list. He refused, and desired me to record whatever he told me. I resigned at the next meeting of the Council, pointing out to the brethren that the doctor wanted a book-keeper and not a treasurer. My resignation was accepted. "2. When the first Tabernacle was burnt and the second built, cash amountini; to several thousand dollars passed through Dr. Eby's hands, of which no account was rendered to the Council. I told the Council that these accounts must be straightened. Dr. Eby was very angry with me for insisting, Tf;,i 17 8S UKNGRAL BUARO OF MISSIONS, 1A95 **''' -i-^t w "'^ and wanted to know if I thuuuht ht had been miiappropriatinn them. I told htm that I nad no lurh thoughti, but that butiness was buiineti, and that I wai hit bnt friand in iniisling upon an audit. An nccnuniani wai rmployed, the accounts were written up, Dr. Macdonuld and I were appointed auditors, and reported, as you say, 'rorrert and satisfiutory as to form.' We meant by this that the ncrountt were con^istenl with themselves, that all moneys received for the Triliernacle had been expended upon ihr Tul)ernacle, hut thni we could not possibly endorse the extravajtanie of the ouiUy. " 3. When the I'abernai Ic w.is rebuilt, $400 was voted liy the Council and tjranted by the Hoard loi current expenses. Ity Christmas of that same year a bill fur $1,100 lunninij expenses was handed in. The Council attain npixiinted Dr. Macdunald anil mc 10 examine this accouiil. We tlirrw out $800 on the xriiund of rxtravat(ance, and still errrd on the side of mercy by grantini! $i(» more than I111 wliiijp yrai's allow ance for ulmul half a year's work. Kor example, about Jio a ni|{ht was an ordinary item paid to some Japanese to run the ma|{ic lantern.' A Lady Missionary Atktd tor TalHrnadt ExI^hsh. In i8()2 the Hoard ntx'iveil from I>r. Ivhy a re(|iifst for a lady assistant in the 'ralifrnacif work. I'hc ri'(|ii<'sl being supported hy the Mission Cnuniil was loniurred m by the Hoard, but as the Cieneral Society does not employ lady mi.ssiunaries, the reipiest was commended to the favorable considerntiun of the Kxecutive of the Woman's Missionary Society. This became one of the elements of conflic^t with the Council of the Woman's Society, and will be referred to under that head. Dr. Kbv also applied for another foreign missionary to aid bin\ in his work, and the Secretary was instructed to en<|uire if another missionary could lie supplied from the force rcsiiUnt in japan. At a meeting; of the Mission Council held, I think, in July, 1892, Dr. Eby submitted a statement of the Special P'und of the Tabernacle for the year, as follows ; Dr. Cm. To uuh OD old aueU I.O'D.IK) 8ub«.-riptioiisand Rental 7I».7:{ Veil 1,:n9.7:i Hy l>*ldondaU N36.R9 .siwciiil KxpaiisM NOJ.N4 I'liotoHraplilo Kxpetiiu |:I0.)!I likUiica on huid lO.ltll Yen l,78».7:i "On iiiotiiiii of Mr. Caaaidy, it »»» itumhiHl. That «« du hereby uxpn-s* our entiitf satiafnction with tlm prvsoiit tinanriHl |H«itii>n of thu onter|iriRi>. mid with Ihu ndiiiinistrHtinii of the funds during thv yitar.' I presume the amount mentioned above as paid on debt means the $800 which a Committee composed of Dr. Macdonald and Mr. NS'hittington bad struck out the preceding year, on account of extravagance. The strange feature, however, is to find the Mission Council expressing "entire sati faction '' with an administration of funds that in two years had expended over 1,779 yen, e(|uivalent, say, to over $1,300 in gold, on "special and photographic expenses,'' over and above the hl);'ral provision which the Hoard had made for the Tabernacle work, and the $500 which the Examining Committee had allowed the first of these two years. In expressing satisfaction with such expenditure, the new Council committed itself to a iiolicy of extravagance. Grants Rtquirtd The Sffcial Fund. The foregoing action was followed by a report of a (Com- mittee of the ("ouncil on the Tabernacle work, as follows : "1. Wo havu hearil n ie]Kirt of Dr. Kby s wurk which iirr scnts a vcrj- grent variuty of inoniiN eiiiplnyiHl, and all of which Huem most lio|ivful. " '*'. We find timt thi' iiiutliiKls ctnplciyHl nro nut irrcniiUr, but such iiK arn iimrii i>r Ichs in iisr in ihr liiiii|,i I'liiirrlii'H 'rinmo inetliiitls »re systf iimtizcd by Dr. Kb.v, mid i'iii|i|iiycensAi." Theie were the granii to be provided by the Miuioiutry Society, but the plan omili what 11 in tome retpecti the moit important worker of all, namely, ■ Japanese pailor, indispen- sable in gathering in the fruit* of the mitiion. Thii feature was added to the mission at a later stage. But betides the demand upon the mission treasury there was a special fund, recruited by ap|K:als in Canada, the United States and else- where, and by contributions from the Self-support Band, which Dr. Kby claimed the right to use according to his own judgment, rendering no account to anyone. When the Tabernacle affairs came iMifore the General Hoard in 189a, the following decisions were rendered : " Kespwainu eertnin uxtrn and irregular forini of expenditure in the work of the C'vntntI Talwrnaclu at Tokyo, we do not think itadvisnhle thnt they should be awiunieenifitura should bi< terminated hh soort«noe that all our iiiiHsioiinries bo under tho aauiu general reguUtionn \ that the Mission (Niiiiioil ill .la|»in nhould control all exfieiiditureson our misaioiir, in that country, mid that no linanvial reaponaibility should be incurred by any misaionary in connection with hia work without lirat obtaining the sanction of the aaid Miaaion Council." Effect of the Board's Action. 'I'he foregoing deliverance seems to have had some efTect, as 1 find in the .Minutes of C^ouncil for July 12th, 1894, a report of the Special Fund for the preceding year. The fund, by this time, was much smaller than in some former years ; but the report is interesting, as showing how the money was expended : KicEiprH. Si>ecial contributions (Eng.) yen 120 (M (Can.) 280 76 Sundries 239 18 yen 629 98 ExrKMDITtHK. Orgmiist yen 79 20 Kvangelist (tO 00 Hooks, |>apors. Bibles and circuit register, n •>2 62 •' Taliornacle Monthly " m .'17 7,'1 Sundries 51 8.'t Dr. Kby on last quarters account >i 62 11 Balance on hand 276 40 yon 629 98 The statement in the Minutes of Council, signed by Mr. Coates, gave a balance of only 76.49 yen, but a little ex- amination showed that there was a mistake of 200 yen in the addition of receipts. Whether this error was discovered and rectified or not I do not know. Friction Hetitoieil will, ro.isoiijib'e deiii'i iN to be di-itiiit!tl not to give tliBir aiii'li Kitrviuu III i: of the city as in I have previi Work" in conn by the (iein-ra chie'ly stereopii In a letter fron dated July 26tli " From varioii tho use of tliti St and that on one in>; lei'tiir,' Inid I mirtee wan umtii on tlie bor T'l 1) ctii he iieuoiii|i Oo-Hpel." The Taberi time a source Executive, and checked there ui.iy iiavo indii iiig new forms sions would be when a demur (one a lady) In it is hardly t(i Writing to l)i said : " Uoipoctinif ovorv disposi' 1 facilities, tlier - aomutiiiioM Cklli ticoii views, leo There wris hI.so, it was not tkilvii THlieniacle, im Bonmis fiUliiig ( dilHuulty ill ke only one luMi' Hro. t;o;itos wi I reipiireH, miikli iceivjii'^ hia Hiiji jniiMit. .Any iir [ Tiib'.fnmoK! wit I m»tter for priv In Decemt: j Eby was com I wrote again tc " I siippo.se Inocoas'iry for [entirely, to th [ing out spoeii 16 * tst^Mrf't^ Ui^ ^^r1^f*^^'^^v7lr not hy the Board, ufitura ihoulJ id »p|ie*li for iact iiijuricnuily faotiun among uMnt year, wa Finance Com- Kiiiid, whioli it irn diacration, n, we conaidar be lanotiunad « thnt all our loMH i thai the nditurei on our reaponiibility ectioii with hii le aaid Miiiaion ad Honne effect, 1 2th, 1894, a ig year. The n some former owing how the yen 120 04 ,, 280 76 " 239 18 yen 621) 98 yen 71» 20 «0 00 112 62 :i7 7.1 51 8:< 62 11 276 40 yun 629 98 , signed by Mr. but a little ex- of 200 yen in was discovered >e two Councils onaries in con- of the case will i)f the Woman's naries. .Suffice 1 with the pro- 1 pressed upon le or more lady ! question came hen it was K a lady Ut tho until the Society in tho meantime if tho Woman'a le offer of some mdertake to pro- acle work. The ident in Tojontc A conference was then held with rrprcientatives of the W();n.in'i4 Kx-;cutive, and afterward the following was adopted : " The nuonMity for the aiipolntmant ii reo'ignixuil, and it in aKreml in reuninnicnd to tiie Wnman'i Miuiimary Huaiuty the entiililialnnil of » wumid uoutre fur liuliui wurk thut will meet the iiuuoiiMitio* of tho 'r;tl>urnHulu and Hiljni'oiit uhurchnii, to liu iiiiilur tliu uiiiii.riil mid diriiotion of lliu Wuiintii'i) Mitaiuiiitry .Suciuty, to ii|i|iiiiiii. ami iiiiintiin llio Udy wurkum. "It i> further uKiuud timt reprimuiilativua of the two Niioiutiet ill t.'.iiiiuin uoufiT toifuther IoIa} down curtain ueiieral prinuipluH an it Iikih of uu operation for the two HooietlaH and their n^untn in .Ihimiu." The forenoing action was rommiinicated to Dr. Mac- donald, under date of April 18th, 1893, and 1 added the following : " llnnpootiiii{ thu iif the Bonrd's nbility nnil prolinlilu conaent. Thnt will conline it to the appointment of one iniaaioimiy nnd one •Tnmnuau miniater. If tliia ia cnrriuil out tliu work would hnve to iiu in the future lusa thnn wlint will be done duriiiit even tliia yeir, na I have under- taken coiiaidorable beyond thu npproprlntioiia. On thoau linos I could not conaent to leturii. nnd would fool thnt nbout 10,1)11 1 yuii too much h id liuon spent on property, nnd tho run- ning expenses would lie higher thnii should be fur prolinlile reaiilta. The building and its furnishing would ever be impur- fect, nnd it would be the nbortion of n lai'gor iden, nnd would entnil the sneer, 'They beijnn to build nnd wuro not nble to llnish.' The preati'^u wo hnve gniiied would aonn vanish. "2. On the other hnnd, experience lins tnuglit me thnt while sundry modilicitii^iia in tho oriiiiiinl thoUKht mny be wise, or rntlier, ilevelopinent will tnke pincu on lines not 'thought of before — tho geuur il thought, in its instincts nnd its pinns, was and is exactly suitnble to the condition of things in .lapnn, and if devuloped, would rencli enonnouH success ns n Christiniiizing niid uplifting nijency. But for this there must lie ; "(1) .A complution of building nnd plniit, with outl.iuk for Hxtonsion. " ('.') A u;roup of workers with unlimited power to inoreaae. " ' ;i) Fair access to the libornlity of tho people, aside from the grants of the Board. " If the brethren nnd the Board desire mo to give the rest of my working life, with tho energy of leturning health nnd tho rusiilt of experiencu, to this work, I will unilurtako it with all th-' zeal of which I nm capable, on the following conditions ; or what will jiractically roacli the same point : " 1. \ ilertniteaii' iiiiitof help from the Board (whether more or leas is iiulifTerent). "2. The rifjht to employ other workers of either aex, or either nationality, with the supervision of the Council. ".'1. The permission to make s|iecinl nppenls (ns H. P. Ilughep, and his mission) with thu cordial commendation of BonnI to the public. "4. Freedom of nction, under tho direction or permission of tho Goimcil, both .is to the manner of work, nnd as to visits to other countries (tho Board to be responsible for no travelling or otliur exiienses not directly authorizoil by them). "5. Tho whole to be ultimntoly responsildo to the Board, and all funds to be managed as Board and Counuil may arrange. •i 10 »4 UKNfelKAI. KOAKI) nK MIMHIONS, IHOA. A* lu pIhim u( iii«it«|(fin»nt of fbiiili I riiii imlitforvnl, •» Iodk M thajr Mtkljr »ll itm |«rtiM i:r*M»ii why Iha TNlMirimiU •houkl lint Iw H I'i'iilrnI '•I'lirun |miiiliiin illt<> tlAlUXml llllllVllali'll*, HI "I. All iiitiiiiH) ovaiigulMtio /ifviicy, Uio birlh|iliHW of Ihnu ■UhU III aoulll. '"J. A tntiiiiiiK nviitro d r vritntJvUiiti miti ntlivr WKrliur*, main mill fvuiitlti, (oriiKii wkI ii*ir,i>, I'li (irik'ticNl liiiva tlml mil (umxli not Hilly n |>niiniii«ht okauiiilr, l>ut •vim) out |>rarlit'iil worlmni U< thv lii'lil. " li. A it-iitrv for iiiiivi'iiii'iila arnii mliulMiK, villi, ill »iiil ihh!mI, aiii'li an U'tiiiwrKiiii', Wliilx t'nniit wurk. Uol Cn'oa ilv «vlii|»iK'liU rii>^ .ln|'iiii<'a< nru ulnmly (ui'lilliK I" liu- t" livl|i lliviii in tlii'if liiii'c, »lit)i» ilivy (rul ilim nli'iiv tn«y itio (hiIIiik. Aim! other link* urn Iu'Iiik (ofki'iI. "4. A n'lilrn (<'r iiiilii'irl ttoik itliicli will I u iioiu' tlin IfaH Chrial liliD HI alini'V of iiiiciiiii . Itiit lliu liliPi of |Mwail>lt> ileTulo|inii'iit fn in aiK li n Mnirn incrvnae with pvrry am rex*, mid liixiino I'lrnrvr »itli llii< dtir«li>|)nicnl of llio coiinlry. Anil I >lo not |in'|Hia« o art h limit to thi) IwkIiukn of i'ro«i<|piitH' Thv only liuiilnlioii 1 in atat ii(M>ii la Ihftt lli« work alinll lint Ih- nlloweil to ili'Vfli>|i in thti •piinv of aililfil liiiaiicial i<'*|ionailiilily willioiit >« rcrtniiily I'f tlio iiK'nna iiovilvil ' I Kkv. |)k. Siitii^hlanii I wixli to iiitiTjocl iiii i'X|ilaitii tioii. I>r. h'liy iiifoniM'il uh iIiIh niorniii); tliitl lio ilix'a iiof know wliy Id- Is Iioi-h in lliia |x»r. Kliy liliiiiiitil II now si'lieiiir fm Iiim r»lH'niai-l)> moiU, which lie will to till- iiiiIm iiIiihI iiii'iiila'rH of llio Coiiinil for nil ox|ii'fsi4i(iii of iiiioii 'lliii hrhi'iiio mhn li<-fon> our Kxi'culivfi, iiiul iiIno la-foit' tlio jtonnl, Imt no litlli* iliil il oominoiiil ilM'lf to llirir jiiil;,'iii)'nt tliiit iioInhIv <'V<'n (H'o iMMiti that wf kIiouIiI |ii' took no nctioi,. Wind I inonnt lo wiy wiim Ihiil iiolnaly pmixwoti that the Hclvnii' -lioiilil In< oiirriitl out : I. .it they tiKik nctioii, wliiili I will ri>iul.| (Kphuiihw niiuliiij{ ot' tli» Krviow, »n follows) : //i>7i> the HthirJ yifuyj ft. I think I am staling; corrt-i llv tlit- le«-lin;i ol tlif I!o.iril and Kxtnnitive, as hitherto conMiiulwl, \\\\vn I say ihal they regauitd ihi- (orcgoinj' ns one of Ihosr imprarlirnhlL- schemes which Dr. Kliy has great skill in outliniii(:, but which, if worki'd out, uould involve great exp mliiurc, with very uncertain resiillv When this litest w'lieme raiiic liefore the Hoard in iSin, the Committer on Jajjin Affairs rc;'orted .is follows lo the Board, and the rciiort was adopted, I think unanimously : " Wc hnve oonaiilerfil the |ia|H'ni n'Utiiiu lo th<< future work of the Tiiln'rnacU!, will liavu hiviril Dr. Khy hI lii^fli on tin- •uhject. Wu are of o|iiiiion thiit thu I'onril hna ilevoli'il iia much nionuy in the jiaat to tliia work na it roulil liavn ilone con- •iatiiiitly with thu cliiiinKof othrrartMi<>iita of the w.'tk iiniirr its ciintml. " W« liavf alao hearti ami coiiaidereil Dr. Kby'a iimpoaal for an uxtenKion of tho work anil placing; il ti(ieiiiieiit fiKitini;, with the ri^'it lo iiiiike *\»i in! A|ip«Mls to fhi ikIh of Kiirh a nioreiiieiit in Chiui>I» and lliroui>hout tho Horld in all di'iionii nalloiia While we iletply i.)ni|i»ihi/.« with Ihv anna hiuI niotirt'R of llrolher Ehy, we do not »ee our way ilrar (o recfuiiniend llie lioard to ndi'|il at iiriaeiil the iHiluy [iro|iiia('il, but III our o|iiiMoii the work at ihu T»l i riiarleHlioulil lieinrneil on under the direeloii of n qualHied KniillAh a|iiakiii|; nii^aion ary, with I he HMiatance of a .Iniiniiew. ordiiiiied iiiiaaiomiry uh piutor, and with iheidilitinii of tneaimialnni'pof n native rv. ni;e liat if the fund* will nll.iW ; iilaothnt armiiKeiiieiili he made with the Woman's Mii-aionary .'^oeiily Uaiii'ru women aa can be rciuUred hy a nii.vaioiisry or minaioiiariea of that aoeiety under the sugierviiion ot Ihc uiiaaionKry in charge. ' In view of all the facts that have been recited alx)ut the Tabernacle, I think this Hoard and the Methodist people will be of opinion that ihe Hoard of 1894 came to a wise and righteous decision. OfiitH>n$ «/ Olhtn Ltlhr »f Mr. WhiHiHglon, It may he fell by loinc, however, that even a large number uf inobled facii and circumilancei do not form • s.tle liusia f.ir a conelusiun in regard lo the whole Taber- nacle tel.emc , that there may Iw a great many other cir- eiitiialanceH whnli, il known, would prcicnl the case in a dillerent liMht, und uiudily oiiv'i Judgmenl, and that only llioke who were m tuui h with the whole history of the iiKivement, who were ar()iiainled with every stage of its de- teiiipnienl, could U>':u a coni|H;lcnt opinion of ihe merilii o( the cane. Il ia pro|)er, therefore, that we should now iii>|uirv, What is Ihe opinion of those who were aci|uainled Willi the history of the r.ibernacle Ironi the iN'ginning, and yet Were oiilsidc Ihe circle thai was exploiting the scheme ? I give lirnl an extract Iroin a letter of the Kev. K. Whilling- loii, who wai in Jafian in the earlier stages of the TalK-r- nacle scheme. It is dated JM'ptemlK-r 6, 1895 ; " I havii alwiiyK eMiaiihiri'd t hi> TiilH>rii«ele lehome aa 'unwise and injudieiKua " It wiia limit for thu man ruthvr than for thu work. Al Uaal. 1 Ihvr munihvr of tho miaaiiin thought o( Hiitli aaiheiiiu, niid whvii II win |iro|i<«ed, th» eiiergiva of Iho t'oiiiii-il were a|H.|il In eiiliing il down lo somuthing fuiiiihlti. " 'I he Tiilieriiaele ahould iw iiiiulu a church, with a aooiety wor>hi|ipliiK there, within ilm meaning and aneoiding to the tuiiiiH if ilie Diacipliiie. One of thu beat J*|iAnua« patlura ahoiild he in vharKe, and the work of lh« foreigner ahould lio entirely aiippKniiuitnry. There ciin l>« ho ipleation that If the prii'i. of Ihi' I'liliertiae t< Innl heeii iiivaated in eight or ten •mailer chu.-ehea, the uinn would h'lvn been immeaaurab.'y gronter. Thu .\7,aliu I'hiiieli naaaiioiher iiiiHtake, allhoiiKh not 10 gnat brick and inorlar pihd up for nii i'arllii|Uakii to shake down. liiNnI, aiilintintuil Iruiiie liiiildiii((a, built ' (ilnin and decent,' are by fitr Ihe Iwat. The tiakko and .i.i llakko [i.r., nur Itoys' anil liirla' McImh'Ih in Tokyo) prove Ihu truth of this BMvrtion. They alill alitiid aa iiionuiiieiita of the maximum of use for Ihe iiiiniiiiiiiii of oiillny. If ihu .laiiaui'Hu want Krnlid ehurchua, which they don't, let them build iheiu ; if they want the (l(ii|i«l, whu'li ihey do, emphulirally, lut ua send it." LtUtr of Dr. M.icJtmalJ. .Mr. Wliittinnton's pl.in, as ntitlined al)ove, is substantially Ihe [Nilii y ol the lli>ard at the present time. The next evidiMii e in the < ase is a letter from Dr. Macdonald to the ( ieneral Secretary : "Tokyo, April \9th, 1804. " Dk.hi I>htor, In ynur letter of March 17lh. you any , ' I luk for n full ataleuieiit from yourxolf aa lo the actual vidiii' of the Tiibei'uiti'le work, mid an expreaaion of iipiiiiiin aa to whiit should l>e the |Hilii'y of Ihu future. Kapeeially give mo \oiir vit'wn rea|HHiiiiii '■- demands made by Dr. Eny at the Mi..d lo e«eit|H< aayiuK anything more alniiii the I'ltliernarl 1, Imt yiiu enjoin upon me to speak, and under V'>iir injuiutioii I fuel thai the truth in the cnae shouUl tni apokeii. " I Tho pliiee l» well choHeii, ami ihu buihiing is of umplo aiK.. niid mliiilinbl> nuileil lo the work. "'J The liuililiiig la near the Imperial rnivoraily and ita prp|uinil.>ry di'imrtinent ; il is alau within an easy distance of the priviiie sch' oIh in Kniiibi. Iloii|{o, where tho Talivrnnclu is I.H'itii'd, IH n |Mipuloiis divinion of the city. Now, withuutduubt, her*' i.. » tine opportiinily for work. " .!« /(» tUr n'ltil that hitx hct-n tiri-itm[ili.thnl : " I. line year iH'fore tile Tiibeniaeli' wiia built we rented the oM I niviraity Ibdl in Kniidn, near lloiigo, and I>r. Kby spent Ihe year there in nreneliinx and lecturing " 2. When the Yabeiiiiiele waa o|ieiKsi, Dr. Ehy had, with hia teach. 'r iind lulpira and nieiiibera of our Churvli living in the iii'iuhboilii'iHl. but who eoniiected Ihemaelves with Ihe Taber- nacle. oiiiU. II iiiitleua of a church. " .'I. I am not auare tbnt the work ia making anything but an onliiiaiy inipreanion upon the ii.'ii;hborliiHid ; in the usual ordi- nary way pi'i.ple lire iieiiiK unihercd in. "4, .\a lo llie atiidenta who are reachtnl : The Universily atiidciilH. the iinderKMiliiHtea in thernrioua deparlnienta, donot i{o iiiiir the place, I have been (old Ihia by the .lapanose all aloiii;. .\ abort lime niro I anid to Mr. Crummy, ' I am informed that tlie I'nivcrNity atudeiita I'o not identify lliemaelvi.-a with the Tal'ernacli. work, oraltenil its services. Ho said that it was a fad llial thi y Kceiiicd iiiiwilliiig to mingle with the vhixH of Ktiideiita that attend the Tabernacle. It is therefore the more iiiiKnitory claas of stuilenla thai attend, and it ia difficult 141 build up anything aiibalnntinl with such shifting material. Thoae who thus pars through the Tabernacle may lie itathercd in elNewhere, but I have had the matter in mind, and I am not aware that a single one of iheie has been gathered into our ?o t^lMk^i, PROOBEDINOS R£ JAPAN AFFAIR8-THE 8ECRETARYS REVIEW. M 'kHHngftn, even a large do not form • e whole Tabcr- many other cir- ihc caie in a and thai only history of the ' tUKe of ill de- n of ihf meritR we nhoulil now were iic(|uuinli'd iN'ginning, and njj the Hchcnif ? lev. R. Whiiling- of the 'I'alK'r- ihvnia in 'unwiM ttliur tlinn (or th* liitioii thought iif \\w vnerKiui of the illiiii^ (uiiiiblti. h, wilh » ■iioiatjr nnciiidlnK to tlia J*|Hinua« pMtura >r«iyiier ilinuld be iwtion thm if the >i||ht or ton •mitller i-r>i:rHli!y |{roiiler. ioiit;h nut (11 K^'Ht ikii Ici ■liuktt ilown. in and ducviit,' uro it., our Idiya' and of thi* KMortion. ■Mini of UHD (or (he xritnd churohui, >y wiint the (loapal, ve, is substantially time. The next Vlacdonald to the April mh, 1804. rch 17th, yt)U any . ( na to thp actuitl laiiiii of opinion Ha KaiHtcinlly give mo liy I»r. Eby at the iug aiiythiii); nioro I me to apeak, luid in the ciiHe thould lilding ia of amplo I'liivcniity and itH >n »nHy diatnni'o of re the TnlHfrniicIo is ^'ow, without doubt, liuilt we rented the niul Ur. Eby apent 'I. Ehyhnd, with hiH liuroli living in the «a wilh the Tnber- ing anything but an ; in the usual urdi- I : The Univoraity (lepnrtmenta, 1)0 not y the JapHnone nil I my, ' I am in(ormi>il fy themat-lvoN with lie said that it tingle with the Khmn It ia there(nre the id, and it ia difHcnIt I abiding material. :le may l)e gathered mind, and I nm not gathered into our fliiuroh. It ia pinaible Ihrifc aoma may hi»va Imon, hut th« iKiarn- lion from thii « Hinio htt II It. hi<*ii itppraiiabi" Mr. (Sk'ui in niw uivii'ii'^ '.hu V iivitraity atii l«iil« to hi* li mhk, an I by itii a.triiii«e pertmitl iilfort ia doiu^ hit beat to raiti li thatn. "5, '/fill' lApiif/ the !■ rnlnlf " Th'i Ttbirn uil>t Uk« buiiii run lui wlint oiiy hi oillo I the putf lull Th>i rxporti of thu work, atnuiinin' < in tli<> (lii'H-.tim andothxr p«pon, itihlbef ir.i thu Mia«ion«ry iloiifaruooii here, have bioin woll oilriilntnil to ahaka onu'a (mih, ami imtko ona aooptiral about iniii.iiiiMu>t. On ooiiHidfriktioii, [ think lliu lirat atntu- munt the morn nwunitu. Tbu Titbnnm "le, however, ia not, our moat im|Hirlant woik ; it ia not lliu moat imjiortant work in Tokyo. I am not itlonu in the opinion tliiit for tlaMe reaultn Axaliii t»i«i'ii the loa I I,int yiir Azibu reportiHl M'.t iiioiuboi'H and tile Ttliuriiiti'ld tMikli >vi.iii;(ht«enyuitr»or ngii, nn Itlo liulow, mnklii^ nil, If pir .MiiiutMa, lining n\\ incrnnae of :|;| on thn yHiir piiniMiN, wliiln .Vutliii nip irted Zi duorunau. When I u.tiiiH. nt the idoae of thi> (' MifurHiicii, to tikX tliii ohiindiea aouordiiig to thu mmiibi'mliip [1 <■., (or aupport of native piwtor), a protest ramo from tlii< ritiierniiolu it'(itinat the titi, ami tlin Mtewitrd told m« that iliuy IiimI not tW ovi'r uightnen yuitra old, nor had tliuy lll.'l tlmt, all told, they had about 117 ; tint the othura litil litiiiii droppnd or lost «i/lit of. Tliia wija iiniiiudi- atidy III till' close of tlio (!onfi'runi:e. They aeem to lutvn over reportiid -tH. 'I'liii piator tolil iiik yestnrdiiy that lliii pruaeiit niuiiibershipor ihc'i'itliurniirlii. inrliiding tlioan on trnil, la about 117. I do not kiiotv the priiwnt iiiniiiburship of Amiiii. "Two wi'iika ago. at a piiiachera' meeting, I asked the paatora about the attuiidunuK upon the aerviuea. "The pistorof Azabii aaid that tlui morning aorvioe had from IS ) to 2()'>, ocoaaioiially 2'Jil ; the eveniinj Hurvioo about H I. " Mr. Toyama of the 'Cibiiriiacli- aaid the morning sorvi « ranged frou 40 to 711, ami waa a goiHl liiriiout ; the evening aerviue ranged from |iH) to .'l,'iil, that the average was about '.'• ). " .Vzabii has piid 110 yen per year for rent of lot (the rent waa about |."i."i, liiit 4."( ymi were paid by intureat of resnrvo fund). Tlioy paiil all ordinary rupaira and laxet, aexton'a wage*, pastor's aalary, indeed all the expiinaea of the churuli. They draw mil lung from the .lapaneae .Miasionary Hodiuty, but thia year they reiHiive from till' fiinda the siiiii of gold, (jiirrOr. .'\a we have puruhaaed the lot, and they will ho relieved of rent, A/.ihii will biK.'om'i aolfaiipporting next year. "The 'raberiiacle list year waa taxnd in (iroportion to ita momberBliiti, but did not iny its tax within about r>ri yen. which it drew from the .lapaneae Missionary .Society. Thia year, in consKipieiii'e of their afipeal, I let them off iV) yen, ao they are taxed losa in proportion than any other cliurch in our work. They will have to draw thia year also from the .lapinese Miasionary Society, while the grant from the mission fiinda to the Tabornaele is gold, Ijll.fti'ti.lK), against A/.ibu's 9 t.'i.07. The whole grant | to .lapaii] is 2ll,()lN) for the hcIiooI and all our Work besides ; you can easily aee the lion'a share the TabiTiiaole gets. It may bo aaid that tliern are foreigners at A/.abu. This ia true. They are at the Tabornacle also. The A/jihu foivigners pay to .V/abn ab mt til) yen pur year. " I have made this coiiipiriaon beuauae of the tendency to doproci ite the rest of our work, for the sake of furniahing a background to show oil' the Tabornacle " (1. ' »'/io( .■,: /,/ /)-. (/,.■ ,,„lini of the future f ' The work of the Talieniacle should be well aiiatnined. "(1) Thure should be on • foreigner who knows the language. Dr. Eby who began tho work shoidil carry it on, but if he de- clines, then aomeono else would of necessity have to bo appointed. "(■J) .\n experienced .Tapaneau paator like Mr. Toyania who ia now there. " (.')) A .Japanese evangeliat, if necessary. "(4) An agency for work amongst women, sufHcicnt to meet the needs of the case. "(5) The necessary grants for running expenses, repairs, etc., ami a moderate aiiioiiiit for magic lantern. " With the help lliiit is easily cditainable from our school, the above would be an ample provision for that work. I have here- t.ofore expressed niiiiiliir ideas to you. I have seen no reason to change my mind. What wo need in .lapan is not ao much an increase in the force as the breath from tho four winds to breathe on the dry lioma that they may live. A living im- pulse like that would crowd all our places of worship. "7- '(rirr i/oiir i ii ii'ji re»]m:t»m llie itemninh truide fti/ Dr. Eliij lit the .U/.i.'iMi/i Couwil.' " Dr. Eby'sdeminds have boon of such an oxi nivagnnt nature that I have felt bound to resist thoin, inasmuch as thoro wcro oortain liuiilatiiuis that had to be reoogni/.ed. He seemed to lone sight of tho claims of the rest of the work. I suppose, however, that yon refer to his likst scheme for the Tabernacle. I sent you a copy of that for information. It did not come before the Council, but was sent to each member, and opinions Worn aoliaitad. IId anein* to eoniempUtn in oonnoethm with till Talinru'wl the fouii lin^ of a mistion, in one aanaa, of the Union I'avl ir ' llr iwiie came to tha Itiiid from Amerioa, and an orgiul4id effort wa4 iiuda to oollaet funds in Aniarioa (»r the Hind's Work. " The in iveiii'int wis reprasinted as no'i-donoiniiiitional. II waa ao writt'Ui up in the Amirii'au pipers. .\ piper was sent to inn eoiitiiiiiiig a linn pliot igravure of l)i-. Rliy, and a leir.|thj article aettiii{ forth tlie claiiiH of the work Tim ttateinnnt w.tNMiKle tint the I) iiitor wis oiien ia eoiineotion with the Uaiia t k .Vtntliodiat Miasion, but t'lat he htil given up hiapist and I1I4 aalary in order to hot I the Hnlf aup|Hirt Hand Move- inent : that Im waa now on the faitb lino no far as aalary waa ooiicernel. Dr. Eby, certiiiily, Wiis not ruaponsible (or thia, but t'le moyeiiiiint wis. The tliiii'^ did not go. The new aclienie it liniet with dilMciilties. Dr. Kby llirnitens to retiuii if t'le II lanl does not aotnply with hi* rei|ne*t, I should Fia very a irry if the I) I'tor alionld resign, but I ilo not lielieve in the acliemi, my in l^iii-int is a^iinst ii. Tho Doctor may have h id a sort o( an inspiration, but the alt) itiis has not coiiivi to ma. " H. A feui ii'irii ill rt'f'iril to the lellera from mutiunnriet in Ih . Kliijt ri'iiorl : " riiiiD M!tor lectured bediru the Tokyo Miasionary C m(ereniie on Ilia work. I waa not present, but I read hia own report o( the lecture as pnblislied In llm t/ofi m Miiil. Ii a'eiund to me to Ilea lissiio of inisrcpre^eniati on from iieginning to end ; a sup- pression of thii true, a ■u.tgestion of the false. It, waa really an Htt ick on our .Missi m. and an unmanly bid for public aynpathy «in the part of Dr. Eiiy. Mr. t.'aisioy liappiuied to come to Tokyo at tlin time. Me Heeiiiod hear those Iroturea would HJniply dcKpiae thoxeSiiIvntion Army tactics, and would nut approach them ; iiiid what will l>o i.4« comeiintnce if these tw» things are curried »n iiittrehim^' iitgly in one and same place, and Hometimea even one after the other on the >aine day, hut flonting and ever-chnni/ing con){re- gntious and not any |M!rniaiient one ) And also, when the people listen to the solemn declaratiiii of the 'ospei truth from the same platform where they usually see some comiciil and aniuaing pictures in the ml^;lo lanter:i exhibiticm, or they (jccasionally hear and Kee some profane musical (.lapanese) performances, int. The Tabernacle has iK'talioivii the tirMt indication of su^ee^H yet : it la in the stnge of an exi>eriment aa yet. Cur r a .lapanese church to tiear ; and s«'coiid is. ;hat when the aHaira are directly and mainly cntrolled mid Bi'iierinlended by foreigneis, which Dr. Kbya plan nieana to I'r , -laiianese of aome ability and aocial ftanding, aiipporting ti. ■'• '".miliija pro|>erly. would not like to jnin the society and veii-.'»e to put their intcreala in. No otln r pei.ple but the JapnMt e, I p.a-Bunin, can understand ami api'ieciate the l.atier (loint. ■ in jierhapa peculiar to the •lapanese; but the fact should nil er bo ignored, if thewoikwas to grow in healthy oorHlitiim • iid develop at all. At the time of the Inat Coiifer- encv a ;,. .-uliar or strange fact was revealed, to the effect that tliuu,'t> he Church m connection with the Tabernacle work did reprr.t the largvat increase of membership, yet at the Name time •* ' ««vi'.'ei1 the largeat auiii of money for hi Ipfrotii the.lapancKe I.;'!, te Missionary SiaiMty, to make up the dclicii ncy of the ml' y iVr the native luistor, In addition to what they did get !••■ the Miission. 'Ihat is, ihey — the converteil uiemberK U. ; |»y very, very little for the sujiport i.f their own work, til >iy l>e<-auNe they could not, aa theronalituency of the church Wk . .>f such chiinjiier na I mentioned aiNivc, ' Tiio Talieriiacle has, however, a place in the evangelixatioii of iiV^tan, 'f my aiigtieatioriH are accepted. They are aa followa : 'jtAi ■ it 'o lit an indeiK'iidcnt inNtitutlon, aevering it from the ■xurd c iiitrol of the ftiacipllne and Coiifereiice. and placiiiL' it on n tm la difli rent fioni the other chiiichea in connection with our won. And make It to lie a centre of the g-nenil evangili- Bttion aMK'hriatir.n influence, without attempting to orgmoze luiy rpgiilar cliunh there ; in a word. Young Mcn'.t ('liristian Aiim>cii.t'i«>n lnatituti(»ii, amn wider and direct evan- gi'listlc work. Iiet I>r. H'hy slay there. fiiriiiNheil with a xpecii.l fund from the !MiaHi->iiary Society. Then the Tala'iiiacle will Ho ik; pnijier work, diid nocommentsor com|ilainta will be made about the work. Tills la what I have Ikh'U aayiiig all ah/ng. But I am not nangulne for a great aiiccesH if it should become ao -, ihe only thing I a-n sure nlKnif ia that it will exert a good inflaenoe on thegen'ral evangdlial work in .la|iaii. and get a fa'ne for our church. It will a<'alter the gosjiel seeda widely, a:id it will he a capital place for sowing the audla. You can- not ex|H-ct, however, to nwp the tangible fruits to a gr^at extent for yourself. The different denoininstiona will share the benefit more or less. " As my faith was smaller than that of Dr. Eby, I could not follow him. 1 waa dubious from the beginning about the Hclieme, yet I had no opposition to it. If the Missionary Society could allow him to go on in Ihe line I suggested above, it will be an ex]ieriment worth trying. 1 waa, and am even now, poaitively sure that a i-elf-aupporting and self-developing native church cen never bo eatabliKhed there B< cording to that scheme. If the Missionary Society is not ready to take the position I suggested, or ainiilar, and eapecially to supfily the large special iiieana needed, it will be far better to let it fall into the same line of w'l'k as the other churches are doing — the ordinary evaiigeliali' work." In accounting for the wide difTerence l)efween some of the siatenientb in the previous letters, and statements which Dr. Kby has m.-ide in his reports, letters, etc., I feel bound to say that as far as I can understand the matter the Doctor always looks at his own woik not only through glasses that are rose-tinted, but that are powerful magnifiers besides. I do not intend this for one moment as a slur ; I simply II ention it as a peculiarity of his mental constitution. He always sees his work in vastly larger outlines than anyone else ran see it ; while success that he describes as abso- lutely phenomenal, many others are unable to see at all. III an article sent home some years ago for publication, reference is made to a memorial presented to the Japan t'onfereiice from members of the Central Tabernacle, set- ting forth, among other Ihing.s, "the peculiar nature of the work done at the Tabernacle, and the phenomenal success which has attended every effort on the part of the workers." Dr. Kby, writing on June 9th, 1892, mentions ihat one of his objects, in the Tabernacle scheme, was "the bringing into range a large number of unbelievers, and their con- version." Me then goes on : — " Itiit, after eighteen montha of experience, we have siimelhlng to allow. Look at some facts: Wo must have comparisoiiR to see the point. There are five churches in this city, each flanked by one or two or three mission schools, run at an expenKe of over 8riO,U00 per annum. / luirr an inurli iiiir nuiliiiiil rirru iiwk tiiiiler direct emiKitiinlic t(Y>iA (1.1 iheur fire rliiiirlicit ji\it iiuftlirr. Uesidos thoae there are tifteen or twenty cliurchea that ha\o been in operation— some of them for ni.iny years, with every advantage. I have more rntr iimtt'i-inl firnj iirrl; to jiinich thf (liin/Hi to than Ml uf thf luxiitij lar(ii.it anil iMeM rhiirrhet — mmus arAoo/n — in Uie eitii ptU t^iijether." It is difficult for one who knows the facts to characterize properly such statements without using very strong language. But look now ,it the independent testimony of the letters already quoted. Mr. Hira'wa, writing in April, 1894, tells us " the Tabernacle has not shown the first indication of suciessyet;" while Dr. Macdonald allirnis (also in April, 1S94) that " the rc|)orts of the work in the Guardian and others papers, and liefore the Missionary Conference here Crokyci), have In ■ n well calculated to shake one's fai ' and make one sceptical about missionary literature." I do not wish for one moment to convey the idea that Dr. Kby has iiitenticinally niislod anyone. I attribute it to what I have already spoken of, — a glow'ng imagination that transforms hopes into realities, and leads him to rpeak of what ought to lie as though it were .nn accomnii?h<;d fact. Vn. RKTURN <»F D-R. KHY AND FAMILY. /t(m' It Came About. I regret having to t»fer to a si Sject that is chiefly (lerson.il, and touches a missionary's family as well as himself, but the matter lias been so often leferred to by Dr I'.liy as a grievan'e, and as proof of unkind treatment, that I am compelled, in ji, slice to the Hoard and to myself, to state the facts. The i''.-st intimation I had in regard to- the return of Dr. Isby's family to this cotmtry was contained in a letter from him dated Dectmlier 15th, 1891, which reached the Mission Rooms alxiiit the middle of January, 1892. The following is an extract : " Kor ^nnie time I have been looking toward the inevitable when my wife and family would need to be in the West for the sake of the young people, but have delayed coming to a final er aiinuiii. r ilinvt cni)iiie before their educa- tion could be completed, that it would lie better for Dr. Eby to return with his family, or shortly afterwards, and take work in this country during the term it would be necessary for his family to remain, and the secretary was instructed to correspond with Dr. Mardonald and Dr. Eby to that effect." The Secretary's Letter. In accordance with the.se instructions 1 wrote to Dr. Macdonald under date of January jist, 1892, and now i reproduce that part of the letter referring to Dr. Eby, for j the two-fold purpose of showing how I carried out the I Committee's instructions, and also what was the tone and [ spirit of my correspondence : " Dr. Eby, as you are probably aware, has made arrange- [ ments to send his family to Canada or the United -States for educationiil purposes, proposing to remain in Japan himself until I the lime would arrive for his regular furlough. The Committee, I in view of the number of children in Dr. Kby's family, the length ; of time it will take to carry through their education, and the I undesirableness of missionaries remaining in Japan for any [length of time when their families are in this country, are of [opinion that it will be better for Dr. Eby to return with his [family, or so(m after, to this country, and take work here until jsuch time as thu education of his family will be accomplished. [There will then lie virtually two vacancies in Japan, but by [taking fSrotliers Elliott and Chown into the regular work you will I keep the number in the ranks undiminished, and would not be [incurring any .idditional financial responsibility I ran well lundei stand that the Mission Council will be loath to lose the jservices of Dr. Eby, now that he is familiar with the country, [the people, .and the language ; but on reflection I think you Iwill agree that the course suggested by the Committee of jFinance will be the most satisfactory all round. If there is [work in connection with the Tabernacie, or otherwise, that Dr. JlCby should close up oefore leaving the country, he might [remain a little after his family hive taken their departure ; but [if 'he change is to be m:ide,it sliou'd b ; understood forthwith that [he should be in Dntario in time to take work immediately after [Conference. If It is known soon that he is coining, matters [can be put in train for a satisfactory a|ipointuient, or, if he [decides to have his family make their home in Pennsylvania, it [might, perhaps, suit his convenience better to take work for a [time in one of the American Conferences. 0{ course, I do not [wish him to go there ; I am only trying by these suggestions [to make things as easy for him all round as I possibly can." I also wrote to Dr. Eby in substantially the same terms Action of the Mission Coutuil. When the preceding letter wa-s read tmmcndmg that iDr. Eby reiurn to Canada and lake woik there until the educa- tion of his children be a^ omplished, and then reiurn to Japan; and feeling that this is a question of great moment to the work uf our mission and church here, we beg to sui mil the following points to the Committee, earnestly requestini; i;ial they be care- iully considered : — 1. The past five* years have been spent jn building, .and Jireparing plans for work ,at that point on a large scale, ar.d now the time has come for gathering the results. ' ThN 4I10UIU !)• ihiMi* re*ri. BiillfUng wu not corameDocrt till lat« In 1M9. " 2. A gratifying and growing measure of success has been realized from the opening of the mission, and the enterprize is now clear of debt and in a very h;i[icful condition. If vigor- ously and earnestly worked, we see no reason why it should not become a grand success. "3. Dr. Eby has special qualifications for that particular work. Others, who are well adapted to their regular spheres, would but poorly fill the place which Dr. Eby has prepared for himself. No new man would or could attempt to undertake the work. If transferred tooih'r hands it would practically be undoing what h.as been done, ana beginning anew. " Dur earnest request :s th.'l Dr. Eby be allowed to rcr".aln here at least one yearaftc. tne return of his family, during which time a belter understanding of the whole case may be reached, and some plan devised by which either Dr. Eby could remain permanently or his place be suitably supplied." It will be seen from my letter to Dr. M'.,Cf jnald, that it was conceded that Dr. Eby might remain to close up any work in connection with the Tabernacle or otherwise that reijuircd his personal attention, and the resolution of the Council asked for a delay of at least one year ; but in either case, a.s Dr. Eby's family had left Japan before the resolu- tions reached the Mission Rooms, there was no occasion for immediate action by the Executive, and the matter was left to the (kneral Board. The latter body, while approving the previous action of the Execi'tive, consented neverthe- less, " solely in defference to the expresj w^ishes of the Council, that Dr. Eby should remain in Japan for the pre- sent." Some Remarkable Resolutions. This decision was duly communicated to the Mission Council, through Dr. Macdonald, I think in November, 1892, and might be regarded as a final adiustment of the matter, but on the 4th of February, 1893, the Council passed the following remarkable resolutions, that is, remark- able in view of their former action : — " I' was moved by F. A. Cassidy, seconded by j. C. Dunlop, and resolved : That whereas the estimate for the special work in connection with the Central Tabernacle has been dis.allowed ; ".And wi.erc.ii Dr. Eby is therefore unable to d-^ the special work for which wo urtfe'l Ids continuance on this iield a year ago; " And whereas Dr. Eby therefore feels that his recall, passed by the Hoard in l'>/2, properly now comes into force, and therefore he feels as though he should return lo Canada at once ; " And whereas we see clearly that the recall of Dr. Eby at the present crisis, and the disallowance of the funds for his special work, involves the reduction of tl s work of the Taber- nacle -now oui most proiuisin, mission— 10 the methods and piopor'ions of an ordinary station; " .And whereas this would be a most unfortunate course, inas- much as it not only closes the special work for the pri .ent, but forfeits the results of the past to a great e.\tent : "Therefore, Resolved: Tliat we urge Dr. Eby to postpone his return till after Conference, and thai we. as a Council, take the responsibility if advancing sufficient fuads to cover the absolute necessities of the Tabernacle work till Conference time, presuinin.; that the Mission Hoard certainly could not mean to desire the close of this primising work at the present lime. '' An 1 further, ihat it is the opinion of this Council that Dr. Eby ought to be allowed to return to Canada for the purpose of visitin,^ the Annual lioard meeting, and lo bring back his wife and such members of his family as can return to Japan in the autumn of the present year." 'T/ie Executive Replies. When these resolutiocu came before the Executive Com- mittee the following action was taken : "The Committee of Finance having carefully considered alike the report of the Sub-Committee and the Minutes of the Japan Council, .also the letter from Dr. Macdonald, reaoheil the fallowing -onclusions, which are to form the basis of a letter from the General Secretary to Dr. .Macdonald and the Mission Council : ■' Ihat the reasons assigned by the Mission Council do nof in our judgment justify the rourse the- recommend. Hence this Committee cannot sanction the proposed return of Dr. Eby to Canada during the present year t'- a view of visiting the (jcneral lioard and returning to Japan the following autumn with a part of his family. Neither can this Committee sanction the action of the Council in resolving to advance funds for the Tabernacle work to cover the special grant Which the General Hoard disallowed, as the Committee hold such action to be not only unwije but beyond the powers vested in the Council by the Discipline of the Church." 23 I\ 88 OENKKAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1895. m li When communicating this act.-n to Di. Mnnlonnld, under d.iu- oi April 14, 1SS5, 1 ri'Ci'inil U. tin- |iiiniliiig circumstances, especLvly the < oiisint ol tiu- (lincral Hoard to the request of the Council that l>r. Lhy might reutain, and proceeded as follows ; "Supposing tlu.t the nialtev was niiw dclinitrly srillril, y(iu may judge of th'.- siir|irise nf llic I'luiiniiiltc ttl\iM\ ilicy iii rived the minutes iif liie Council nieeimj; of Keln i/ai v 4\h: aixi tli.il sur- piisc was not lessened by the iiMsun .isMniirii for Pi. Kliy's proposed visit to Canada, namely, therlaiii f..ilns of ex- penditure which fad never coniineiulcd ihrinselves to the |ud) m'-d a* < .mstitutinn a legitimate claim upon the Society's fiinil-. The ileni was there- fore disallowed, and when the inforniaiion was coinniunicalcd to Dr. Kby through you, 1 leceivtd a letter (roiii him legieitinti the disallowance, but expressing his delrnniiialioii to make the best of the circumstances. Now we aie infoimcd that the chef reason of the Council lor urging a ye.ii ago that I'r. Kby remain in Japan was llial he migiit ilo the ' special «mk' cov- ered by the $500 item, anil that the ilisallowame ol tins special grant not only tendered the poifoimanie ol this special work impossible, but imperils the lesulis ol that woik in the past, and constitutes a sulhcient eason I'm his instant depailuiefrom Japan, not permanently, ■! wnulil seem, but lor a lew months. It must be remembered, however, that the dei ision of the lioard which Ur. Eby designated his ' rec.dl,' li.id no leference to a brief furlough such as he now proposes, but to his perman- ent residence in Canada or in the l-'mted .Stairs until the cduc.'uion of his chi'dien is completed, II this istvhalis now desired, the Committee, in xiew of its past .icii.ii, lannoi object; but plainly it is something far diliereni, and ihis the t'oUiimuee is not prepaicd to sanction. It I'r. liby th.'iclore dei ides to visit Canada in the way proposed, he d<^eH so eiitiiily on his own responsibility. '■ Already this letter has exi)aniled to almost unieasonafile dimensions, and 1 must dose. .As insmu led by ihe Commit- tee I have endeavored to present then views ile.iily, .lud tiust that what has been wiiiten will nut be imsuiideisioud or mis- construed by any one concerned. ' TAe Council Rtlurpis to Ihe Chargt. Although the Executive had dci ided .igaliisl I)r I'.hy's return on a temporary lurlmigli, the inalli r was luit allowed to rest there. As 1 have slated 111 anothci i oiiiu itioii th ere has appeared in the Council ol late yt ars a
  • :;ci!, dated July 4, i.Si)^^ ; "In reference to Dr Khy's furlough, it w.is movril by Mr' Crummy, seconded by Mr. Mi Keii/ie and hshImmI: Thai this Council request the (ienetal lloaid to gi.mt hi. I.liy a 'urlou^h next year, and that the Ch.iirman be insliiuted tiiexpl.iln lolhe Board the grounilson whit h this leqiie-t is niadc. ' There had iK'cn a previous intimalion from Di I'.hy to the Council that he inlcnded to visit C.inada during the coming summer (/'. c, 'he summer ot the funeral Confer- ence), anil in a letter to the Mission Rooms he had suggest- ed that while his family were in Canada, ins'.i.ui o'' an orcinary furlough he might run over occasionally ir su;n- me.', not occupying much more tiim than an ordinary vaca- tior. Of course this jiroposal did not tnict the apprnval of the ,_.-niniittie. In Dr. Kl y's coii. s|«iiuli nic he look the ground that as had spent sivcnteui years m Japan he was entitleil to his second furhhigli under riiie. It is necessary here to explain that when I »r. '.by first went to J,riiin die term of service was ten years, i,, .Z.,, -w llic sirenglh of representations from the Mission Couticil, the Hoard de- cided that hereafier the lirst term should lie seycn years, and subsequent terms ten ycirs Dr V,\\\ conlendcd that as his first term had been ten years uiultr the old itile, his second term should Ix; seven imiler the new mle. Writing to Dr. Macdonaid under the late of November iiid, 181;^ I said: "The question of furlough for Dr. Kby wa» larefiilly consid- ered. It will be reiueiiibeied that Dr K.bv w in to Japan under what might be termed the 'old regm e,' wjien ten yeiiis w, is the time required f'r the lirst term ot seivicc, That trim was filled before the new rcgulaiion wu» adoptcil, anil, of course. these new regulations could not be retroactive in their charac- ter. I'nder the rule, therefore, Dr. Eby will still be some three years fiom the completion of a second term of service as de- lin-^d by the existing rules. \\ Idle this was the opinion of the Hoard, yet in view of the peculiar circumstaaces of Dr. Kby's family it was decided to grant him a furlorgli not exceeding six months, to take effect after the next meeting of the |apan i 011- .crr-.c. Kindly convey this information to Dr. Kby, a:i 1 fear I will not be aole to write him by this mail." Wiser Action by tiu Council. The Board, having met Dr. Eby's wishes in so liberal a spirit, might reasonably have expected a ready assent to th' ir decision ; but before that decision reached japan, action had been tnken by Dr. F.by on another line. At a meeting of the Mission Council on November 6th, 1893, " Dr. Kby presented a statement regarding his ill health, and the consequent impossibility ol continuing his work in the Tabernacle, and requested that the Committee present the case before the Cleneral Secretary. A conver-alion followed, but inasmuch as Dr. Eby was provided with no ceriiticate of health, it was deemed inadvisable to take action until such be obtained." At a meeting of the Council two days later the following action was taken : " That whereas we have received from Dr. Kby a staiement regaiding the unfavorable state of his health, aniimpanied by a meilica! ceriiticate, we recommend that these doriiments be forwarded to the (leneral Secretary lor consideration, and express the hope that the furlough be granted." The course here recommended by the Council was wise and proper, and no interest would have siiil'cred by awaiting a reply from the home office ; but Dr. Kby was not saiislied. Accordingly, at a meeting of the Council on November ji;lh, by which time my letter to Dr. Macdonaid, of November 2nd, had been received, as is shown by the records, he made another statement in regard to his health, whereupon it was resolved : " That whereas. Dr. Kby has made a statement to the Cnnimitiee of the (.'ouncil that his licaltli is in such a condition as to render him wholly incapable for the present to continue his work at the I'aliemacle, we hereby re pie-t that the lurloiigh ot six months that has been granted him by the lioard, at its recent session, to commence from the next Conlcrcnce, be permitted to commence forthwith." Here again the Council was clearly within its right in reijuc .ting that the furlough granted by the Hoard should begin lortliwiih instead of at next 'onference, but as it was just possible that ther"; might be a refusal, it would appear that Dr. Eby determined to forestall such action, and on the 15th December, i8i),?, the question ol his hcahli was once more brought bi f ire a Committee of the Council, and the following is the minute : ■' AVrc/i'.v/, That in pursuance of the regulations issued by Ihe Hoard authorizing the Mission Council in ccitain cases to permit missionaries to leave the lield, the Committee, regaiding the present case as one in which it is authorized to act, takes the responsibility of allowing Dr. Eby's furlough to cnmmcnce on the first day of January priix. The Committee assumes Ihe responsibility the more readily as it merely anticipates by six months the furlough granted by the Hoard. ' Secretary's Letter to Dr. Afitcdomild. The action taken by tho Council on Niivemlier fith and 8lh having reached tlie (jeiieral .Secretary, emliodying a request for a cable message in reply, he wrote 10 Dr. Mac- donaid, I'uder date of December 8lh, 1893, as follows : " Your letter of November 9th, reporting the lecommendalion of the Mission Coimril in the case of Dr. Kby, and enclosing a doctor's cei tlixate and Dr. Kby's letter to you. lias been received. I nave also received two letters from Dr. Kby. dated respec- tively .November 9th and 14th. As a meeting of the C'ommiuee had been held Oiily live days before your letter arrived, 1 could not very well call them together again, although the matter let'irred to is of sulhcient iniporlan:e to reipiiie careful con- sider.ition. However, I have taken the next best Ciiurse, i.e., to show the letters to some of the members of the Committee who were within rfach, and to that extent have taken counsel before replying. I need hardly say that we all sympathize with Dt. Kby, and greatly regret the circumstances which seem to render a .^eason of rest imperative. At the same time, the tetters received uigent a nature I am persUiidc Coinimttee here serious risk, to his case, and Conference, alt once, In part t dilhcull for tho that it will be n of those who ; without serious mc.'kns let him 1 that his condilli from the count depart. Touch will be dealt wi the Hoard two spring, pcrhapi him to the em any orders in f Let nie say priv upon, that I wi by the direct t will readily unil At the risk khort letters o lone and spirit The first is d.t letter of his, v " I am exccei kymptoins of th of Japan seem although I su| local ailments iMacihinald, of c.ise as far as tl niittee of Final Jiis : If withoi "onference tint demands insta Japan to decii there is no sci (■est will proli Vhether you I how that llro. you must do ^cience, for t ha bf the bretlii kubniit your I held a ince'uj hand. Ma Cabled you a Bsort to the ■ hiore clcariy. hiunicate the enlarge- furtln The secom irrival at San ' I am very ^ou got safel deciding to deternimation Inybody licgii brought me tl ^iun Council, Rry Hoard, wl you. I have Brellireu on 1 (ne by the ne> lutcly until C Ihat unless y> Notwithsl b.iution ag.ii reaching ho lequircil. 1 iuardiiin, s Vniiual Co (uih a task prosttatei ^ind, was, tc spect of th cutive in t 2t •i.fc. in their rliarac- II be sontc three i)f ^er^il;e as de- le (i|iiiiii)n of ihe res of Dr. Kby's lot rxccciliiig six llic japan i on- . Kb)', as 1 (ear in so liberal a catly assent to reached Japan, her line. At a iber 6lh, 1893, IS ill health, and lis work in the present the case )n followed, but ceriiticale of on until such be ter the following Kliy a slaicnient a<< onipanied by esc iloriinients be insideiatiiin, and Jouncil was wise fcreil liy awaiting was not satisfied, il on November Macilonald, of is shown by the regard to his statement to the 11 such a coniiiion resent to continue t thai Ihe hirloti^h y the Hoard, at its It Conlcrcncc, be ithin its right in he Hoard should L-rence, but as it refusal, it would itall such action, <|uestion ot his a ('oininiltee of inute : lions issued by Ihe ceitain cases to nmittee, renaidint; rized to act, takes u^h 10 commence ■miiiltlee assumes rely anticipates by d.' ionald, Dvcniber 6tb and ry, cmbodyiiij^ a rote 10 Dr. Mac- 3, as follows : e rocomniendation ly, and enclosing a has been received. Iby. dated respcc- ; of the Comiiiiuce er .'iriivcd, I could IiouhIi the matter ipiiie careful con- l best ciiurse, i.e., of the Committee ave taken counsel ve all sympathize taiices which seem ihe same time, the PROCEEDINQS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 39 letters received did not seem to represent the case as of su uigent a nature as in require u cable message. On the whole, I am persuaded that it would be moie saiisfactniy to the Committee here if Dr. Uby c uild see liis way. wiilioiit involvinx serious risk, to adhere to the .-iction of the (iencral ll>>ard in his case, and let his furlou^'h be^in aftei the next Annual Conference, althoiitfh he m.iy tinil it necessary to de> ^t at once, in part or altO);elher, 'roin active Wiirk. Hut 11 is so dilVicult for those at a distar.c to jud^e what ouKht to be done that it will be necessary to .eavetlie matter largely in the hands of those who are on th': tjioiMKl. " Dr. K'ly cm loinain without serious detrimeii to his hen, .' uiuM next June, b/ all means let him d > so ; bii if i; is the judgment of Ins bicihien that his condition is such ,ts to reniiie his iininediate dep.irtiire from the country, then thee is p. 1 more to he said lei him depart. Touching the question of v^xpense, of oiurse Dr. Kby will be dei\lt with the same as oti ers under the rule adopted by the Hoard two years axo. Sho'jld hi; le.ive the coiimry befe. Vou will readily understand why 1 in ike this su^tjestion." Lttters to Dr. Ehy. At the risk of bein ; a little tedious I introduce here two khort letters of mine to Dr. Cl)y, as showing the general lone and spirit of ni; corres(K>iidcnce with the ntissionaries. The first is dated December 8ib, 1893, and is in reply to a pctter of his, which had j'ist been .eceived : " I am exceedingly sorry to learn tb.it you have such decided ^ymploins of that mental and physical ineitia which Ihe climate of Japan seems to produce, soon or later, in most forcijjners, llthouHh I suppose in your case it mav be due in part to the local ailments of which you have spoken. My letter to Dr. |Macdonald, of even date with lbs, will ^wa our view of the case as far as iha* can be i;ivpn with..-.;! a meetiiix of the Coni- niittee of Finance. To sum it up in a scnteu' e, it amounts to litis: if without serious risk you can remain in japan until ~onference time, it would be best to do so ; but if your he.dth demands instant release, we must leave it to the biethien in Japan to decide as they tliiuk best. 1 am j;lad to know that ■here is no serious organic derangement, and that cli.mjje and [■est will probably restore you to your usual linhun>; trim, Vhether you leave Japan before spring or not, it would seem now that Itro. Coates must ^ive his time to the rabernacle, and yoM must do as much as will satislV -I will not s.iy your con- Bcience, for that may be very >.xactinn, but -the cooler judijiuent af the brethren arounil you. It has been iiiipraciicable to bubinit your letter to the Committee ol Finance, .is they bad lield a meeuig only some live diys lielorc the leliers ciiue to hand. Had it been possible to co;isult them, I would have :abled you a message as desired, but it seemed necess,(ry to esort to the slower method of writing in oi.ler to state the case lliore clearly. As it is likely that Dr, Macdonald wi'l com- municate the substance at least ' ' my letter to him, 1 need not l:nlai>;e further at present.' Tile second letter was written after I he;ird of Dr. (<.'>v's arrival at San Krancisci), and is dated February 9th, 1894: - ' 1 am very glad to hear that, in spite of storm and sickness, you not safely to San Francisco. I think y.ni did wisely in peciiiiHK to come straight hmiie, and he.iitily comineud your ieteriaination to h ive complete rest for a lime. Do noi let inybody be^juile you inio speaking in public. The List mail brought me the document which you hid subiiiilted to llie Mis- sion Council, and also a letter from Dio Kllioti to the Mi-,sion Hry Hoard, which is substamially a copy of one he advlressed to you. I have not yet rcceivei! letters from any of ilie other irethrevi on the subjecl, but it is quilo possible some may icacli me by the next mail. I think you will do wisely if you test abso- lutely until Conference, at all events, .ind a jjoou deal beyond Ihat unless your strength is fully restored." Dr. Eby's Conferemt AJJress. Notwithstanding Dr. Eby's illness, and thi; Secretary's baution ag,-iinst speaking in pulilic, I found that soon after reaching home he was ready to address meetings whenever feijuired. I.abtr on he published an announcement in the riiitrJidn, stating that he desired to address the various Iniiual Conferences on questions of missionary policy, fuch a task undertaken by one who, six months belore, was prostrated as to require instant relief from work of every kind, was, to say the least, imprudent. Uut there is another ^spect of the case to be noted. At a meeting of the Ex- culive in the spring of 1894, when Dr. Eb> was present, his intention of addressing the Annual Conferences was ri'ferred to, and the right of any missionary to discuss ques- tions of policy in any Conference but his own was chal- lenged. Whereupon Dr. Eby assured the Committee that he had no intention whatever of discussing the policy of the llo.trd, but only desired to awaken enthusiasm in the Conferences in regard to foreign missions. This was deemed satisfactory, and the objection was waived ; but when Dr, Eby addressed the 'I'oronto Conference, in a paper which occupied an hour in reading, it was found that a considerable portion of the paper was an arraignment of the Hoard's policy, and of the administration in regard to the foreign field. Perhaps this circumstance lets in a little light upon Dr, Eby's determination to come home before the time specified by the Cieneral Uoard ; otherwise he would have been too late to address the Conference";. It is also to be noted, that by coming home in January instead of June the furlough of six months was extended to twelve, as Dr. I'^by held that coming home on account of sickness did not affect ihe furlough granted by the Board. Ri/urn ExftiHsts for Dr. Eby and Family. It is necessary now to state the financial provisions made for the home-coming of Dr. Eby and his family, as here again there have been mournful complaints ot unkind treat- \\\.\\\X by the Uoard, When the family left Japan in 1892, Dr. Macdtmald made the following advances, in Japanese currency .- — Kai-es home, Mrs. Eby and four children. . . Incidentals yen 720 " 56 yen 776 As the currency then stood at a fraction over 75, the amount in gold was approximately $582. When Dr. Eby came home two years later silver had fallen to 57>4- The advances in currency were as follows : Fare to Toronto yen 261 Sleeper, meals and other expenses " 53.04 yen 314.04 Equivalent in ffiXi. to $180.57. In 1891 the (leneral Board adopted certain rules in re- gard to furloughs and expenses. The rules which touch the above cue are as follows : V Wiien on furlojgh, with the consent of the Board or Com mitioc of Finince, the stipend of the missionaiy shall be li\ed by said lloird or Committee at an amount not exceeding $,)ao and children's allow.ince foi married men, or ,$500 for single men; and the .ictaal necessary expenses for railway, steamship or other mode of conveyance shall be allowed. If, duiing his time of furlough, the missionary is employed during autumn or winter in the work of the society, full expenses from his ticid and return thillic^ shall be allowed on the scale hither- to rccogni«ed, 4, .A missionary who retires permanently from the foreign work, after comileling a full term of service, shall be allowed *^iill expenses home, and a stipend on t^ie sea's above .stated lor a period of not nio.-e than six months. Uut if the mission- ary so leieininj! slull be employed during the year in the vork of the society, or, on the other hand, is so imoaired in health as to be incapacitated for work, the Hoard or Committee mity, in iheir discretion, allow stipend for the full year. Suhittjuf-Kt Dtmands. Up ti!', 1891 the lijard nad granted railway and sfam- ship fares, and a lump sum of $50 for each adult for inci- dentals (/>., sleeper from 'V^ancoiiver, meils, hotel when necessary, etc.). Under the new rule the intention was to pnivide for railw.iy and sfeanish';< fares only, leaving the missionaries to pay the incidentals. The interpretation put upon the rule by the missionaries was, that the $50 grant was abolished, but that the exact amount of incidental ex- penses would be allowed, and the advances were made by Dr. Macdon.ild, as above, on that u'lderstanding. But sub- seipiently deminds were m.ide by Dr. Eby for the full $50 on each adult ticket, aitd for several other items, as follows: I . Withdrawal of half of cliildrcn's allowance in 1889-90 Sjoo 00 Four years' interest on above at 8 per cent . . ^4 00 S5 40 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1893. (':■' 3. Dalnnco on Irnvcllinf; expense-, of Mrs. '..by atiil Inmily, 3 V tickets at $50, $161.50, less $41 iccoivrd $122 50 3. S(>L.-o .il .lil.iw.ince for 21 montlis, on account ofabricnce of f.nnily (amount not slafjcl). Item I of tho alxjvo has already iK-en de.ilt with in another conni'ctitm. Item 2 was su'iseiiuently allowed in accorilaiu-c with Rule 4, as Dr. Kby had resigned, and was therefore in the category of missionaries who retire per- manently from tho foreign work. Moreover he was in the employ of the society during the year referred to. Item 3 did not ap|H;ar to call for action, especially as Dr. Eby had not l>een sejwrated from his family by action of the lioard, b.it in spite of it. The allowance made to Dr. Eby for 1894-5 was as fol- lows : Salnr) J900 00 Children's allowance 450 00 Rent 300 00 $1,65000 Out of which he made a donation of $too, leaving the net amount $1,550. Surely enough has been said to prove the groundlessness ol the complaint that the Board has been unkind or ungenerous in its treatment of missionaries — especially of Dr. liby. There is one additional circumstance to which I am loath to refer, but it seems to be neees ary in order to show that con- stant watchfulness in regard to certain forms of expenditure is neces-ary. It also shows how Dr. Macdonald had some- times to take a stand that rendered him unpopular with some of the missionaries. In 1895 Mr. Coates was ap- pointed l.> the Tabernacle, along with Dr. Eby, and took up his residence in Dr. Eby's house (the family'of the latter being in this country), while Dr. Eby continued to occupy certain rooms. The house was the property of the Mis- sionary Sociely ; but an understanding was reached between the two brethren referred to that in the estimates for Mr. Coates' support there should lie included an item of $300 for rent, and that this should be handed over to Dr. Eby. When the item came under Dr. Macdouald's notice lie promptly refi.sed to leave it in the estimates, ami it was struck out. When before the I'onie Board 111 1894, Dr. Eby pressed that some allowance be made fur rent during the time his house was occupied by Mr. Coates, and an allowance of $too was made for the (our months. Dr. Eby's Hesigiialion. It only remains to present Dr. Eby's letter of resignation: "Toronto, Xoivmfier yit'i, 1S94. " nK.\R DocroR, — In accordance Willi what I have already stated to you and to the Hoiid, I heicwitli tender my resigna- tion. As the matter of my standing has been iltfinitely left in the hands of the Executive (.iimniittee, I ask thiit at the first meeting of the Coinmitice ihia resignation be accepted, as it is on my part dertnitc and final. "The linancial claims relating to my return— .ind that of my family— were alsi) lelegaicd i)y the lloani to the .Se< rclary 'to be dealt with according to the rnles.' I he • rules ' st.ite t'nat, when a missionary retiics fiom the sorvic.' at die end n( a term, he leceives lull removal and travelling expenses and ai.\ months' salary. "I iherefcre ask that all arrears on the removal of self and family be Kranicd, together with ficinht on my library and other effects to (lime from Japan. As to the six innnihs' saliry, I make no 1 laim beyond llie ciiireni yea, ami will, of course, carry iii the work of the Board in •lapan, and would ask you to bring the mutter before the Coin- uiiltee nt ynur eiirliust cmivenieiicu. "The reasons, hrietty stated, are a.s follows ; " 1. We feel that Btut«iiient:4 made in (General Cmiferenco regarding the Mission Council indicate clearly that we do not prk in Japan, the Council became c(;nipo.sed [chiefly of nieii who were strongly in sympathy wiih Dr. jEby's schemes, but were not in sjnipalhy with the Board [and its policy. The altitude of some, at least, in the [Council is expressed in a statement of one of their number I — Mr. Dunlop — who .said in a letter to Dr. Macdonald, [written in iiSt;^ : " I have shown that my dissatisfaclinn in Japan is with the [whole conditions ol the work, and for these conditions Itoard, [Council, native rlnnch and native character arc all responsible. [ The Hoard aie all doubtless >!<"hI, wise and able men, but 1 don't [hesitate to say ihat 1 don't like their niacliine, either here or [there. It seems so hard in Methodist otricialdorn to get past [the Secretary Hut if it were only that, one could hold on and hope for belter things. Machines wear out, and Secretaries I don't last for ever. Hut besides and because of a faulty [machinery, this mission is distrusted and discredited at home, [and in this shape lias to meet the (jreat difficulties of present land future which other large missions face with tlie lull [sympathy and support of the Hoards which they represent." Such sentiments may account in part for the persistent lantagonism of the Council in late years to the action of Ithe Board and its officers. But how did such sentiments Inrise i" At the time when the above letter was written [there had been no correspondence between Mr. Dunlop land the Home Office except one or two letters on the most iordinary business topics, and we were entirely ignorant ol jany " dissatisfaction " on his part. Neither did we know lof any serious dissatisfaction on the part of the Council as a [Whole. That some individuals were dissatisfied because [their unreasonable demands were not conceded, or their [visionary schemes endorsed, was known to the Executive, [but nothing more. This was the state of things at a time [when members of the Council objected to any information [being furnished by the Chairman to the Executive beyond Ithe bare record of the Council's decisions. It is evident, jtherelore, that Mr. Dunlop's " dissatislaction " did not larise from any experience on his pari of the difficulty of Igetting " past the Secretary," but from the persistent slate- [nients of one or two who for some time had been uissatislied jbetause they could not have their own way. Explanalwiis Asked For. On the 29th of January, 1895, the letter of the {missionaries was laid before the Executive and the Secretary [was instructed to request each of them to state distinctly to Ithe Board his grounds of coni|.laint and reasons for asking [to be recalled 'I'his was done, as the following letter will [show : "Toronto, Febrmmj Ut, 1806. I " /ff 1'. E. Cniminij, II. A., Tukijti, Jujian: ' Dkah Hhotuer, — .\t the meeting of the Kxecutive Commit- [tee of the (ieiioral Hoiud of Mi Ions, bold on tliu'J.Stli iilt.. a [letter Kigiied liy yourself anil other missioniiries iiskiiiy to [he reoiilled fiMiii the forciyn lirKl, wiia submitted and received I Ciireful ciiiisidoiMtiuii. Ak the let er did 110I l;i> into pnnieiilars, I the Couniiittee were soimiwliat in the dnrk in regnrd to Mie pre- IciHe nature of the jjrieviiiices u|icm which the reipiest for 1 recall [ is bt^Hi (1. ]>r. Kl)y, who was present, was asked to make such lltntiiuents as he iiiiuht see III respecting .lupan allnirs ; l>iit beyond some general sliitciiient.s that ihc missionaries felt that [they had not bfi'ii f.iii'ly treated, he seemed uiialile to throw [any liian, rei|uesliiig to be recalled from the work [there, thin Committee is not aware of any atiitcmeiit made at [tho lleiieral Coiifireiiee which justifies the action they have [taken, neither do we think that action is Harraiited l>y anything [in KUbHe(pieiit legislative and administrative action. Dcsirin.r, [however, to deal with these brethren in the most candid and lopon nianner, and to alfonl each one of them all reasonable [opportunity to l.iy a statumeut of his ease before the Couimitlee, I be it therefore " ' Ordeieii, — That thotieneral Secretary write to each of the ! brethren who have signed tlie request for a recall, asking hint if ho have any complaint or grievance, to state the same fully and ex|>lieitly in writing to the Coiiiniittee, so that lulsunder- Ntamlings, if such exist, niny be reuioveil uiid redress be given where justly claimed, provided such redress is in the power of the Kxeeutivu. " 'That jiendilig the reception of such correspondence and further action by the Coniniittee, it is contidently expected that the brethren in Japan will proceed faithfully and loyally wilh their work as missionaries of the Hoeiety.' ' 1 have no doubt that you will see al once the reasonableness of the request implied in the Minute. The Commitlee cannot {>rocecd upon vague generalities, and as each of the niissionariea las a distinct personal respoiiHibility in the case, it is necessary that each one should stikte for himself just nhat grievance he has to complain of and upon which he bases hU request for a recall. "As it is very desirable that this whole matter should be speedily settled, if only to prevent further injury to the Mission i und by the uncertainty which now prevails, I trust that no time will bo lost in forwardinir your reply. " Yours faithfully, "A. SCTHERLAND." Afr. Crummy J?e/>/ies Non-Ofjicially. In due time a partial answer was returned by Mr. Crummy in the following letter, which is non-official : "Tokyo, Japan, l'ahr\mr\< -iSth, 1895. "The Rev. A. SHthetitiml, JJ.I)., Tunmtii, Cainiild : "MyDbabUk. Slthbhlanu, — Your letter of January 2iid came to hand in duo time, but before the next mail went out. The other brethrLii reported to me that they had received like coninuiuicatiims, and expressed their view as to what course they thought best to pursue in the case. We were, 1 think, unani- mous in thir.king that while there was nothing further that we wished to say in regard to the matter dealt with in our former letter, still, in defer, nee to your wish or that of the Committee, we were willing to make r. fuller statement, either to explain the li Iter itself or to indicate the vaiiou.t steps which led to our writing it. . At the siuue time we were of the opinion that as our request for recall was jointly made, and as the relation of each one to the matter was exactly the same as that of all the others, we should j intly send any explanation that might be needed. A.s, however, this would take considerable time, und as the Committee may deem it inadvisable to delay a tinal settlement of the matter, since it has unfortunately become public and may tend to unsettle the mind of the Church, I thought it might bo well to send by the' outgoing Canadian mail a short note, which, though it can only express my own opinion, will be, 1 think, substantially that ol rhe rest. "Then let me say, briefly, tjiat there was no desire on our part to embarrass the Board. The last sentence of ou^ letter would contradict tiiiif idea. Nor was our action based to any extent on displeasure with any existing finaiicial arrangement, cither as regards personal provision for our support — which is, on I lie whole, very satL^-facloiy— or as lei^ards the Mission sup- plies, which, if not all we could wish, we know is not all the Hoard could wish either. Nor did we wish to desert the work. The climate has been making such serious inroads on my own health lhat 1 have been advised not to remain longer in the country than this coming summer, and though 1 had deter- mined to venture another year, still 1 had about; concluded that it would iiay the Board better to liave one in my stead who could endure tho climate better than I am likely ever to be able to do. But the other brethren had lieen getting along so well in this as well as other respects, und hail so enjoyed their work, that, as far as I know, they hud not tliou'.{lit of anything else than spending their lives at this wt»rk ; so that it was u very great di8ai)|)"int merit indeed to them to feel ol liged to take the step they did. But the case, as we understood it, was simply this : Wo believed that your exinession of the desirability of a change of the per.sonnel of lie Atis.sion applied to ii.s. inasmuch as it was obviously on account of the iiiitrustworlliiness of the members of the Mission (Council that you were led to regard it as 'aksolutely essential' tint in ilie inteii'sts of the work a change should be made in the constitution of the Council which six years ago you ratilied as satisfictory. By following your suggestion and making the change, we believe that the (ieneral Conference, through its Commission, coiiciirreil in your opiiiiou as to tho ilesirahility of our recall. We, of course, did not understand why we were not recalled, unless it were that wo were expected to take the initiaiive. That, 1 think, is the case in a nntsliell. "Wo did not act hastily in tho matter. The publicity that was given to the discussions in the (ieneral Conference by their publication in somu of the local English papers, enabled us to consult Romo of the wisest among the mii-sionaries with- out giving additional pub icity to the iioard safi'airs. and I think the course adopted fully accorded with the opinion of the most mo lorate. The following is a passage from a loiter sent me by one of tho niissiuiiaries here whose name would, 1 believe, be 27 T,-4.. i^fiftjc^, n F 1. it^ ' ri'.it- 42 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1896. 'il 11 1 1 1; accepted by evury menibor of the Bimrd an n jii from the (hmnUun, iiiul tliiit tliis uxproiKluii witHiiol ivi|iii'«totl : ' I mil iiut ooiii|)ett-nt to form mi opinion ooiici'riiiii^ tliu iimtlurs tliuiiiaelvt'S, not Imviiiu followid tlioiii closuly, l)iit lliia ia my (iroiiiid : ff tlio (leiiuriil .Secrot-iiiy (pf the MiNsioiiiiiy S.ioiety, on tliu HiMir of (iuiiunil CoufiTuiicu, hIuuiIiI siiy tliitt tliuru iH iiuuil of a cluin),'« in tliu purMoiiiiel uf tliu Je eviileiit to everyone.' " ThisseoniB to be the geiiorni opinion of all who have s; okun ur written to me on the ipiestioji. We may have liot'ii \vron)( in our itiferuMco as to the lioard's wish, as Mr. Oillnm has written us to say, ami if ho, I suppime that channel the asiieet of utfuirs ncjt a little, but 1 inuiitioii the al)'ivu simply to snow that the inference was, at least, a natural one. " Might I just add that one further consideration that caused us to think that the course we adopti'd wa» for the best, was the dense cloud of misunder''talldill^ lli.it has seumed to hang, for a hing time, between the Hoard and the .Minsion. I ■ay it in no impro|>er spirit, but the number of statements made in (ieneral Confertiice, that were dealing with malterii of simple ovidenc- in which we were witnesses and wluli we knew to be contrary to the facts, was simply siirpilsing. Wo cannot account for it. We haven't any ([Uustiun thai nveryone wished to know tht* e.\aot fac h, hue thuigs seem to have got into such a taii.;le ~an. " /iVr, E. Crummij^ li.A., ToA't/o, Jtijitin ; " Dkak Ukot iku, — Vouv letter of February 2Hth is to haml ; but iks it w .uld n 't be altogether courteous for the Kxecutivii Committee to take action until a reasonable time has liicn allowed for the other brethren t4i express their views, there must still be Home delay before I can coiiiiiiuiiicate a p isitive decmioii. You will underHtaiiil, therefore, tli.it tlij present letter is not otlicial in the sense of co iveying the viuws nf the Exi'cutivo Comiiiittue. and that 1 alone am responsible for what it contiiins. In so far as 1 deil with matters of f.ict tiny are common property, but in any expression of opinion 1 am merely gi\ ing my own views. " I feel sure that the Kxecutive Committee will be gratified with your statement that there liiw been no desire on the part of the brethren in Ja|>an to enibarrxHs the Hoard. .\ somewhat different opinion had pivv.iiled here, and also among the niem- bers of uther iiiiHsions in .lapaii. It was lep prtiil, nioii'Dver, that one of (Uir missionaries hail anirnied, on behalf of himself and otiiers, that ■unless somi'tliing were done by the Hoard the whole work would be left in the liaiidH oi the ila|iaiiese and Dr. Ma.donald.' "Still more gratifying is your as-siiraiice that the action of the brethren has nut been ' loused to any extent on ilisphiaaure with any existing hnamial arrangenienl, either as regards personal pii/vi-io.i f r our support, . . or as rrganls mi.siiiun sup- plies.' In the crintrovcrsy which has tikeii place here, in tlm speeches of ■. Eliy, and espreially uf Mr. Cissidy. in the General Coiucienc ■, and in private iitteianes all uvcr the cuuiitry, dissatisfaetion with tinanuial arrang.'iiient.s liius had a prouiineiit place, and as they have conveyed everywhere the impression that they ar - speaking the sentiments of the brethren in .lapaii, you can se.^ how iiatiival has been the inference that the grievances of the missionaries have reference, to some extent at le St, tu tiimncial inatterH. " What I have just aaid prep ires the viay f ir some wonls of explanation in regird to what appeals t > be the real grievance, i.e., certain statements made at (ieneral (lonference When the letter asking for re all came bifore the Kxecutive, a tile of the (hiarditiH was sent for, tl.at we might dixcover, if [Kissible, what the statements wore to which oxoeptiun was taken. We found, in tiie lirst place, a brief report of a 8p>s!ch by Dr. Kby, and folliiiviiig tint an ei|u:illy brief, and perhaps uipially incorrect, report of some remarks of mine, liutsoniewh.it to our aiirpriso we discov red that a speech of Mr. ('assi ly, to which mine was an answer, had been lunitted altogether fi'om the report. Iu thii*. apeecli Mr. Cas i ly dwelt chietly up >ii the linaiic ul pro- vision made for the miasionaries. lie e niveyuil the impreHsiun that they were greatly dissa:istied with s niiu things that had been done in that res|)e t. He d inanded that legislation should b adopted forbidding aii^ rediictimi in the stijieiids of the .lapai- missionaries without timely notice being given them, and the o|iti(m of accepting the reduction or leaving the work and coming home. In all this the impressi m w.i. distiirtly conveyi'd tliat he was speaking the sentiments of his brethren in Japan. It was then that I replied, sjiying, ' If Mr. Cassidy i I correctly representing the attitude and spirit of the .lapan brethren ^whicli I very much doubt), I do n it hesitate to say that it is time there was a change in the personnel of the mis- sion.' You will se ' at once tliiil two important factors were omitted from, the report wh.,;'i the biothron saw in the (riiur- ili'in, Im(, Iho speech of Mr. Cissidy ; and "Jnd, the Htro gly ipialifyiiig wo'^ls of my reply. Having in mind, h iwever, what •Sir. Cissidy said, and the exact form of my answer, 1 see nothing in my utterance to ipia'ify or regret. If, as was plainly coiive<'ed in Mr. Cissidy's remarks, the brethren in Japan were making demands that had never beoii made, much loss ciuiceded, in any other part of the missio i held, and that the chief thought in their minds was the Htipend, and other allow- ances which they received, I think you yourself would s ly that it was time that men of aditferunt spirit were .sent into that tiold. Nor w.iH this tlie tinst or only time in which a similar impression had been created. Letters received Iroin individual in saion- aries, and statements iii.ide by returned missiuiaiies to the (ieneral Board and Executive, have led members of those b idles to siy more than once in my hearing, ' It seems a-i if those ,lapa I missionaries care for notiiing but inuiey.' "Now. my dear bnther, do not misunderstand or mi inter- pret what I have said. My solo object ii to let you know of things that have been slid, and impressio.is conveyed, by returned missionaries who claim ti speak on behalf of iheir brethren yet in the held, and so to give you an opport inity uf removing any unfavorable impiessions that have been mule upiui the minds of inemberH of the Hoard ; ail 1 in view of this you will understand belter the satisfaction il gives to be assured by you t at there is no diH.satisfactioii with existing tiiiancial airangementH. "Touching now upon the action of the .loint Conimis xhn in adopting toHume extent new regulatuins for the foreign work, lot me say that up to the present ywir no exception was taken to the constitution under which the Missi m Council wiu) supposed to be acting, and 1 express it as my own opini ill that exception would not h ive heeii taken had the(!oiinii iing Secretary. To this 1 replied that I felt Hiiri' the Hoanl would have no objection 1 1 the Council expre s- iiig its wish by iioniiiiation, or other form of reipiesf, concerirng the ch'iirniaiiHliip of their own body, but tint the ultimate authority in the case must rest with tb.e Missionary Hoard. I'lider this regulation everything went well until the meeting of the Council in .Iu le lost, when they not only nominated but eUited a new Chairman of the Council, and as soon as this was iUmi demanded that the pipers, books, money, etc. be placed at once ill his hands, and this without any refereme whatever to the B lard of Missions. You will see, therefore, that the issue was rai.sed. not by the Missi uiary Board, but by the Mission ('oiin- cil and it was an issue tlia' had to bo settled once for all, i.e., whether the Board of .Missions sh luld app >int its own olhcial reprosentativo in .Ia|)an, or whether the whole thing sl'ould be lo t to 1 he Mission Council. Both in the (ieneral Conference, and in the Joint Commission, Dr. Eoy and Mr. Cassidy had full liberty to H.iy anything they pleased on the matter, and after car.fiilly e >nsiderim; th • wli de situation the .loiiit Commission decided that the right of th-i Board lo appoint its own repro- seii afivi! as Treasiir.r and Corresponding Secietiry must bo mtinlained. Let me now say, with the utmost frankness, that th"re has been a pretty general impression here that the ilceisioii of the .loint Coinmissiun and .-iilweoiient action has been really at th) found ition of the reipiest for a recall. It has been ii. liter of common n itoriely tli.it Dr. Eliy and Mr. Cassidy have been aiitjigoni7.iiig everywh re the action referred to, and con- veying the impression '.hit the brethro!i in .Tapan are one with them in this opposition. It will atl'ord great sitisfaciion tu tho Kxecutive. as well as hosts of friends of the Jap.m .Mission, to bo assureil that this impression is incorrect, and that the breth- ren in .Ja;ian, as elsewhere throughout the Church, stand loyally by the dociiiuns of the constituted aath irities of the Church, 28 PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 4S liikoii. We found, 1 hy Dr. Vthy, and ui|iiitlly ineiirruct, It to dill' 8iii'|iriiio Iti) wliicli niimi was III) till) rupurt. Ill tlio tiiiiiiic 111 |ir«- jui\ tliu iiiipruH.iion [u thiiigx ttiiit liiicl it tlint lu),(mlntiun ill lllu NtjjIL'lllU of liuiiiv; givoii tlioui, luiivjiig the work li III w.i< (listi'irtly )itN iif liiH lirothren ;, 'If Mr. Cftssidy hiirit (if tliu .liipiin |iMt husilatu t(i sHy 'siiiinul uf tlio iiiis- irtjint fiicturH wure III Hiiw ill lliu (riitir- ^lul, tliu Htm gly nil, li iwuvor, wliiit Illy HiiHwor, I Nee If, lis wnn pliijiily irutlii'oii ill Jiipau Ji iiiado, iiiucli lo.HS tii'M. and tlmt the I. mid iitliur nllow- If wiiuld Hiy tlmt it uiit into tli;it tiold. Hiiiiiliir iinprossiim iidlviihiiil in Nuion- iiis.siiiiiiiiu.s to tlie lorH of tliosu 1) idiea nuuiiis (14 if those uy. ' i-.slmid or mi inter- let you know of io Ls eonvoyud, by on boliiilf of ihoir I nn o|iport.iiiity of t liiive liBuii inule nil I ill view of this gives to bo luwiired li uxiating tlnniieial dint Coinmis i6n in ho foruigii work, lot I m w.w tiikun to the I wiiflHiipposuil to be lilt uxooption would to til it constitution. lOHcnt at tiiH muot- s discna-ud ; but if lin of the brotliren I! iiulhority to ect 10, I'j-djllrii), Trwu- I ruplieil that I folt 10 Council expro 8- roipioMf, coneorii'ng tint the nltiiimte Nfissioiiiuy Honrd. iiitil tlio mooting of imiiiiitod bill eliited II lis tlii.s wiiH don-) , bo pliicod lit once wliiilovor to the thiit I ho isHUo iviia tho MiNsion Conn- d onco for iill, i.e., iiit it.s own olhoinl ill! tiling Hl'oiild be iuii'mI duiforonco, r. CiiHsiily Imd full iii.ittor, and after .loiiit Coniniis.sion int its own ropro- lociotiry mii.st be iNt fraiikno.sH, that e that I ho decision on liiiM liDoii really ill. It has boon Mr. Ciwsidy have jrred to, and con- iipan ar id that Iho bruth- irch, stand loyally i» of the Church, ven when their own jiidgmont may not entirely accord with ^hal liiiH beuii done. 'One wold iiioro legariliiig your itfereiicu to the 'doimo loud of iiiisuiidoiNlaiidiiig thai Iiiih h< eiiied to bang for a long line betwi on tlio lloaid mid llie iMIssion.' My iwii iiiipreHHion I that any iiiiHiindor^taiiding llial uxistsiH not diiu to tho i lliuial t>i'reH|Hihilence that Iiiih |ia>Heil betwci i the MiHsion Koiuiis and ho MiHHion, but to tho HtaleiiitntN of private eorreHpondoiits otii ill tliiHuoiiiitry and n .lapaii It wiih largely on thiHiiccdiint hut tho l<)xointivd('diiiniittee decided tiiask the Japan biotlireii k>r fiillvr ox|ilaiialiHaiy, perhaps, that I should until we ear from tlioiii : but I have diipiieateil my lotter. and eiiiioso bvoral copies with the leipiesi that if you think it advisablo Ion send tlieiii to the other bretliron, and this may bo of service them in sending a reply to the coiiimunication of tlio Ixeentive. "Willi earnoHt desire and hope for a perfect inidcistaiiding pd for tho continued pruNperity of the ilapan Mituion, " I am, yours faithfully, "A. SUTtlERLAHD. " iVu/? of Affairs in rSSg — Cordial Relations of the Mission Council with the Secretary. ' Before reatliiig further correspondence, it may help to a ■Her uiiderstaiuliiig of the situation if 1 refer at this point I sonic events of a long prior ilate. When I visited Japan i88y, peace and harmony seemed to reign throughout the lilire mission. Dr. Kby's 'laliernacle scheme was still in nbryo, lint even tln.n there were eleint iils of danger in it Ihich 1 strove to eliminate. The Self-support Hand was ■ full operation, and there was danger there .against which [frankly and aflcetionalely warned ihem. lUit so far as the lersonal relations of the missionaries to each other and to heir chairman, and the relation of the Mission Council to he Board and the (ieneral Secretary were concernetl, there |as not a ripjile u|;on the surface to tell of any disturbance feneath. As an evidence of the altitude of the Mission |OUiicil towaril the Secretary, and tliro\igh him toward the loard, i niay ipiote the following resolution of the Council ossed at a meeting held on die i5lh of June, 1889 ; ' Moved by Mr. Cassuly, seconded by .Mr. Whittington, and Jianiniously carried, I'liat we ilesire to record our (.jratilucle br the satislacloiy and timely visit wliicli Dr. Sutherland has Bade to the Japan mission ticld. The support and nianage- hent of a mission in a foieigu land, and at a great distance loni the centre of operations, presents very seiioiis dilficulties Ihich cannot be oveicom ■ without frei|uenl visits of a repre- pntative chavacler. holli from the field and friiiu the home Jnurcli. HeiPtofoie a lair share of representatives b.ive gone lome, but no one has come to us as a represent. itive from the lome church. At this most opportune time we have had the lleasure of receiving the lionoied Secretary of the Missionary locicty, who has come to us lull of missionary zeal and lissioiiary sympathy, ripe experience, and strong in executive tisdom. We have found him uniformly kind and patient in he review of our work and the discussion of our plans. With a Jeady insight he lia' ccinprebended our difficulties ; with a Eiider sympathy he li.is entered into our trials ; .and with wise counsel he has cncour.igi'il and helped us. He carries back Ifith him our heartiest coulidence and our wannest legarils. ' When I returned home and laid before the Board in the Ity of London a report of my mission, it was referred to ] Committee on Japan .Affairs, which subse(iueiuly pre- fented a report which the Board unanimously adopted as lllows : "We recommend (he adoption of tli< full and interesting fcport of tho General Secretary touching his recent oflkial |sit to Japan. We rejoice in the results of his mission, in the neering and stiengthering of the hearts of our brethren in ilipan by his kindly sympathy, and in iliiecling affairs in this Dinewhat critical jieriod in the history of the Mission by his lise counsels —especially in the organization of the new Con- irence. and in legaid to the proposed scheme of union with (Iher Methodist laborers in that ticld. We rejoice in the T0vidcnti.1l mercies which attended hiin throughout his long nd eventful journey, and have brought him back, in the fulness of the blessings of the Gospel of Peace, to resume his im- portant woik at home. " In view of the marked success which has attended our Mission work in Japan, and of the bright prospect opening up for tho extension of pure Christianity in that distant field of missions, your Committee with profound gratitude to (iod, desire to express their warm appreciation of the earnest toil, wisdom and devotion ol our brethren through whose instru- mentality these results have been accomplished, and to assure thcin of our continued confidence, sympathy, and prayers for increased success." Seeds of Trouble. I have quoted these resolutions solely for the purpose of showing that at the time mentioned the relations between the missionaries on the one hand and the General Secretary and the Board on the other were of the most cordial kind, and that whatever caused a change of attitude on the part of the Council must be sought in events subsequent to 1889. Not only so, but in the years which followed, down to the summer of 1894, I was not aware that any marked change had taken place. Of course I know that in certain matters, such as claims for children, maintenance of Taber- nacle work, travelling exi)enses of two ot the missionaries, etc., there had been some difference of opinion between the Board and the Council, but I received no hint of any personal antagonism to Dr. Macdonald or myself, nor for some time after 1889 was there anything to indicate strained relations between the missionaries of the two Societies. Recent developments have convinced me that in 1889 my judgment was at fault on one point at least; that even before that time the beginnings of strife were at work in the mission, leading ultimately to wide estrange- ments and heated controversy. These unhappy differences will have to be alluded to more fuily in another connection, but suffice it at present to say that a careful review of the correspondence and other records have led me to the con- clusion that the Tabernacle scheme and the Self-support movement have been either the cause or the occasion of nearly all the friction that has disturbed the Japan mission. Attack at General Conference Unexpected. It may be ni.atier of surprise to some that up to the time of the General Conference I was unaware of a growing antagonism on the part of the Mission Council to myself and to Dr. Macdonald, as well as to the policy of the General Board. Perhaps I was too confiding.' Had I been more suspicious, had I been more careful in reading between- the lines, I might have foreseen what was coming. But at that time I had the utmost confidence in the mis- sionaries, and whatever might appear in the correspondence indicating dissatisfaction I put to the credit of misunder- standings which a little explanation would quickly remove, while the shadows between individual missionaries I regarded as passing clouds that would soon disappear. In all this I quite underrated the gravity of the situation, and such being the state of my mind I was quite unprepared for th-' developments at Gener.il Conference. No sooner were Japan matters alluded to in that assembly than I found myself in an electrical atmosphere, where the most innocent remark on my p.trt was liable to cause a fiery discharge. More than this, I found a considerable element in the Conference prepared for what was coming. There were men, not a few, who had been so diligently plied with onesided statements that they were prepared to sympathize with every demand of the missionaries, and to adopt, without further examination, the belief that they had been very badly treated. The Plan of Campaign Begins to Develop. For all this, as I have said, I was totally unprepared, biM it soon convinced me that there was much behind of which I h.id been de^ ;nedly kept in ignorance. This very naturally led to careful inquiry, and at last I reached the conclusion that what took place at General Conference was neither an E.>'cident nor an isolated episode, but part of a plan that had wide ramifications. That which lay at the loundation was dissatisfaction with the policy of the Board and a determination to change it, and in connection with this a determination to dominate the work and the agents of the Woman's Missionary Society in Japan. To accom- 29 44 GENKRAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1805. plish this several things were necessary : i. To supersede Dr. MacdonaM in tiie rhairnianbhip of the Mis.tion ('oun- cil. 2, To secure the recall of Mrs. Lar^e. j. I'o super- sede the ("leneral Secretary. 4. To carry such legislation through the (ieneral ("onference as woiil I m;''ce the Mission Council virtually supreme in all japan affairs. It is only when this prograinnie is kepi in view that one can explain the extraordinary utterances of the returned missionaries in the (Ieneral Conference ; their diligent efforts to secure the election of a new Secretary ; and their great tlisappointinent when that part of the si heme which referred to (Ieneral Conference action failed ; and only in the s.une way can one expl.iin the action of the Mission (Council in not only electing a successor to Dr. Macdonald, hut in assuinuig that the election was tinal, although hy their own con- stitution it re(|uired the coTilirmation of the (leneral lioard. Afrs. Large to he Iin{>li(aled -The Silmxtion Slate J. I may further say that an important— perhaps essential — part of the progrannne was a statement lron\ the mis- sionaries in Ja|)an to the (lener.d Conference, impeaching Mrs. Large's administration and demanding her recall. This statement did not materiali/.e, for what reason has not been explained. IVrhaps the failure may l)e accounted lor by the refusal of one of the missionaries to sigji the document, saying that he knjw "iMthjng of the ni.itter exc'pt from hearsay." Here, then, was the situation : Eight members of the Mission Council in Japan, six of whom had come into the Council since i.Si;o, some of them as late as iSi;;}, combine to remove the official repre- sentative of the Hoard in Japan from his position as (.'hair- man of the Council ; to impeach the head o( the Woman's Council, withwho.se work they had no right to inl Tineddle, and thus secure her recall ; and all the wnile caielully con- cealing their designs from the parlies concerned. The Secretary': Statements at Gtiifral Conference. This digression, though somewhat lengthy, is necessary to enable the lioard to understand certain siatements made at (leneral Conference, because it throws lig!il upon the circumstances under which they were madi-. It will be remembered, by not a few members of the lioard who were present at the General Conference, that in a speech by Mr. Cassidy he represented the Ja|)an missionaries as greatly dissatisfied with the treatment they had received on financial lines from the (leneral lioard, and this slalenient was put in another form and with, if possible, greater force bv l)r. Eby. In replying to these remarks, which were (juite un- expected by me, I was reported in the news|)ai)ers as saving, without (jualification or explanation, that "it was time there was a change in the personnel of ilie Japan mission.'' 'I'o those who were |)resent and look note of what was passing, il need -.carcely be said that I did not make the statement in that form. What I did say, alter li-lening to .Mr. Cas- sidy's extraordinary statements, was this: " If Mr, Cassidy has correctly represented the spirit and attitude of the men in Japan (which I very much doubt), I do not hesitate to iay it is time there was a change in the personnel of the mission." My meaning was perfectly plain. Knowing, as I did, the exceptionally lil)eral Ireatment which the japan missionaries li.id always received from the lioard, I felt that if they were dissatisfied on financial grounds, they were not the men for the place. I would repeat that statement to- day were there occasion for it, which happily there is not, for no sooner was the mattr r reported to the missionaries in Japan than they Iiastem-d to repudiate Mr. Cassidy's statements, declaring that they had no com|)laint on financial grounds. Another remark attributed to me, and (|uile as erroneous as the- for(!going, occurred as follows : In the course of debate reference was made to the right of the Mission Council to elect its own Chairman, who would be ex officio Treasurer and Corresponding Secretary. I contended for the right of the Hoard to a[)|)oint that officer, and was reported in the papers as saying, " As custodian of the fund I d ) not hesitate to say that there must be a jhange in the personnel of the mission." No such statement was made by me. What I did say was this: "As custodian of the fund I do not hesitate to say that if the fund is to be properly and' economically administered, the Board must have its own representative in Japan." Here my meaning' was eipially plain, I had l>ecoine familiar with tendencies in the Japan Mission Council in the direction of extravagant and unnecessary expenditure ; I knew that a Chairman appointed solely by the Council must necessarily administer the fund in accordance with the ("ouncil's wishes, whereas one who.se appointment made him the representative ot the Hoard would look at all expenditure from the point ot view ol the Hoard as well as 'if the Mission. This opinion I sllll f'lold, having seen no occasion to modify it. One other remark o'' mine may be referred to, where I said that " I hoped the missionaries would not press for an investigation of their troubles, as I greatly feared the con seipiences." At that time I knew of only two "troubles" in which the missionaries were concerned, namely, dissatis- factiim with financial provision, as indicated in Mr. (! issidy's speeches, and personal (piarrels between some of the missionaries and the agents of the Woman's Missionary Society. Knowing, as I said before, the exceptionally liberal treatment which the missionaries had always received, I felt that any investigation respecting financial su|>port would not redound to their credit ; while in regard to per- sonal (piarrels I feared that to investigate these would only intensify ihem, and make a -lublic scandal of what should never '.lave gone beyond the bounds of the mission, for at that time I still clung to the hope that the personal antagonisms, if let alone, would die out ; but here again I was probably mistaken. He that as it may, my remark was made solely in the interests of the missionaries themselves, but its meaning was perverted. Dr. Eby and Mr. Caisidy could not but know that several of my remarks were mis- reported ; certainly they knew it after I had called attention to the incorrect reports. Hut if the missionaries in Japan had no complaints on financial grounds, it appears that the returned missionaries had. At the (leneral Conference, Dr. Macdonald, after listening to one of Mr. C'assidy's speeches, took him to task, saying, " I was astounded at your speech." " Why ?" said he. "Because il seems to be an indictment of my course." He replied, "1 never thought of you." "Others must have thought that it related to me," said Dr. Macdonald, "and I feel ashamed at the way our Japan Mission is being dragi{eil in the mud." Mr. ('assidy re|)lied, "The fact is, il Dr. Sutherland had paid me the amount for travelling expenses" (on furlough) "there would have been nothing of this." It is necessary here to explain that money for Mr. Cassidy's exp.-nses was advanced by Dr. Macdonald in the usual way. Wiien the former reached Canada I settled with him according to rule, paying every cent that the standing rule of the (leneral Hoard allowed. Hut Mr. Cassidy claimed more, and I told him that the claim would have to be dealt will) by the Executive ('ommittee. Position Taken by the Missionaries. The position taken by the missionaries, then, appeared to be this: that certain statements said to have been made by the Secretary of Missions at the (leneral Ojnference amounted to a virtual declaration of want of confidence in the Japan Mission Council ; that this was confirmed by subse ihf Exee»iire Ciimmiiii'f MelUmlUl dhunh, T,>n;il, ' Dbah Katiikiih ANii HitKTHiiEN, ~ We heit to noknnwledge tho tecuipt cif tho n in roforuiicu t(i oiirrecjuuat for HicnII, jtiid iiiilu'iiiiii); yiiiii' wish fur it iiioit! cxpliiit Htitt< iiunt iif ihu ^n.i«. It IH jiitiin.'iU'tl lliut it in iluairiililti thiit this iiiforiniitioii bu Nii|i|ilir(l iiiiliviiluiilly t'lich oiiu pruNt-iitiiig his own ' coni- pluiiit or tvii'Viimr.' Hnwiivcr, its our fornii-r ivctioii wiis not Hsi'il upon niiy iiidiviiluiil coinplniiit or grievitiirti, Imt on brincipUia which iillcut iin all i<iir iippliciition Icir I't'cali was jointly iiiadu, likiwisu jointly to aupply .tiiy iiioi-o lliforniatioii that iiiny ho lU'ccHsnry. 'An Ic'td us to dueidu upon so serious a step %» ti)t3 one wt! have taken. Wo shall now refer o' .ase by clause to the renoons we gave jfor askinu to ho reeal'^a. ' 1. ' Wo fool tl it statements made in (ienoral C'onfereiico egardiiig tho M.^sion Couneil indicate clearly that wo ilo not K1HHC88 thu oonlidenco of that body, and that our recall is llusired.' "The statonienlH referred to are chiefly those of tho fJeneral ISecreiaiy, who, i:i the course of his reiiarks nt different times luring tho (Ienoral t'onference debates made the following Statements — lie dill not hesitate to say, im custodian of the fund, tliat ■ it was to be Mcciuately and faithfully adniinistored. as far as l^rgarileil the niisHionarieH of .iapan, it was time there was a eliange in the perHonnel of llie Mission, and tho sooner the better.' — (iiinitliiiii, September L'tlth. " ' If the reuulatioiis of the Soctcty wore to be overturned by Holent proti'Hts from missionaries, tlieii ofKcials eiuild not Undert.ako to admiiiixter the fumi, but would simply iiave to record what was dictatet see liow tho work was to be Wrrieti out iiiib'ss tho Board had some recognized responsiblo gent.'— frVo/d-, September liltli. " In A ciuniection which id>viou8ly shows comparison with tho Other miHsionaries. he said ' Dr. Alacilona d had been faithful poth to the Council and to the Hoard.' — (Untie, Soptend>or ■J4th. " ' He (the 1 ienoral Secretary) said that he would advise the nissionaries not tn call for nn investigation of their troubles, as ke greatly feared tho consecpiences.' 'TheS'.- atatements, especially when viewid in the light of he whole teiiiT of the (Jeneral Secretary's ronmrks on .Iapan Hairs, are clearly tantamount to a charge against tlio Mission pouncil of unfailhfidness, unfitness and insubordination. And appears, nioreovor, that thu Confoionce understood the eriounnoss of tho charges niacie, from the fact that when Dr. tuthurland declared the iieceNsiiy of a change iti the poraoiniol H the Mission a very ' obvious .sensation was caused.' — (llnlie, Beptombor L'litli. Moreover the whole eonrso of the debate, lotttbly tho jrrotest of Dr. Dowart, ' that ho could not see that Dr. .Macdonald was more relialrle than tlie rest of the mission- rie.s,' together with the speeches of Dr. Macdonald and Mr. Odium in support of the (ienoral Secretary's position, clearly sliov\a that the ('niiferi iiee uniloiatood the nature of these cliarui's. If iliin wore not the ciise, a large part of the debate would have wholly lacked pertinence. Still, though the issue seems to liave been clearly iindcrstooil by tlio Conference, it took no meiisute to express its diiappn val of tiie cliargoH againat tho MiMsioii Council, but liandod the whole matter over to the .ioint Commixaion ; and the action >if that bisly, ao far as it is expleaaed in legialatioii. would go to Hhow that it fully believed what was cliai'^jeil iigMinst us. it seeins to us then, if th>^ I Ienoral Conference anil the .joint (^iinmisHion and Hoard appointed by il, held the opinioim expressed by the Secretary and others in (ioner.il Conference, the oidy logical course open to them was to recall lis. Nor call we iindi I'stand their not doing Ko unless they wished us to take the initiative a course be-i'ies wliicli we think lliey practically left us no altoniative. " li. ' That this is tho cause is contirinud by 8ubsei|Uent iegii- latite and ailmininlnttive action.' " We refer here to the legislation of the .Ioint Commisshm, by which the constiuilion of the .MisHioii Couiuil wits so changed as to take fiom us the riijht of even a share in thu election of the 'I'leasurer and t'orri'spondim; Secretary, and to the action of the Hoard iiijls i ho ce of a lepiesentalive. It is true that the election of the ("Chairman of i he Council was still left with us, but it is now an otHce shorn of all tho essential prerogatives il formerly poNsessed. We can hardly be wrong in regarding this legisl.'ition as an indieation tli.tl the .I.>int Commi-isi'in eon- cnrreil in the chaigeN of the >ecritary which we Ii.ivo cited above, for in coniieetion with these and siinil.ir charges lio dechii-ed that t was 'ab.solutely eHsoiitial tint the Hoaid should have i!H own leprcNeiitalive in .Iapan, in wh.ise appointment it should have the chief say, .uid the (Commission lollowed with leg slatioii which not only {^avo the Hoard tho chief say, but placed tli<^ whole matter in it^ hands. Willi regard to this legislation. coiiHidered apart from i's occasion, we arc ready to admit that there may be a legitimate diU'erenco of opitiion as to whelher il is better tor the Itoaid to appoint its own Treasurer and Coriesponding .Secretary, or for the Council to niako these apjioiniments, t< r we see both methods employed on the field, and loth appirenlly woik sati-f.ictonly. Hut it was obvious that n w;i« not on gtiieiiil prineiplesth.it tho Secretary regarded the appointment of iho Uoanl's repi-i seniative as 'absoliitely essential,' liiit because of the special conditions allcgetl to exist, and chargeil to the account ol the Mi-sio 1 (.'onncil. 'Ibis is shoHii not only by the fact that his demand for such reiire en- tative was evMeiitly ba.sed on the charges preferred against tho .Mission Council, but also iiy tho fact that six years ago, on the Secretary s own adnii.ssiun, such necessity did not exist, for when in .Iapan he ratilied our former colisli iition, which cntidence in all ihi) other members of the Mi.ssion Council, and yet we are now c.dled npon to a cept as our virtual head one who ha."* been thus appointed, and to give him our hiyiil suiiport. We can haiilly ii>iai;ine that tho parallel of this is to Is; found in tho whole history ot missions. S\'e could iiiiilerstand the action of the It ard in making such an appointnieiit if at the sumo time it gave the men iiiterosted tlio option of being recalled, but we c.iirnot understand on what principles the Ibmrd eN|:iect8 us i|uietly to acipiiesce in an action which retpiiri« such i« Sitcritice of 8 lf-i-esp(!ct as this. " .•^ceofiliiig to the regiihitions governing the Council, we had the right of electing anyone we chose to tho ollice of t'hairman. This being the case, we do m t consider ourstdvos under obliga- tion t o otter any justitication of our action in not re-electing Dri MaciloiiaUl to that positioti. Since, however, on the floor oB the (ienoral Conference he made statements with regard tt> his. failure to bo re elected that are nut consistent with the facts — ■ and since there seeins to bo in the miiidB of many & total mis-^ 31 4a (JKNERAL HOARD OK MISHIONS, 1W5. oonoapt'on of tho inttitre* 1« l(>ti' ' I'.'tl rottiiii why |)i' M i vl m il I fni u I T'lulojii III. \Vu w mill fiirlliur h llml w>i i'o.(ii'.| llixu ■tiituin iiitx <>: liiii|iiiti iiiijii 'lili'.li.K, mill) iMiliiru lotv'iii; .).t|iiii ho w H iiirnriii 'il lit >iih ir r.'.x m* fur let ii m tiLiuiinii, "It it ii'it tnio, n% it<«itrtii I by Dr. .M ijiI iii il> Coiiiiuil iliirlii.( ihu yoitr. 'I'liuiu »(>r<>, h iwnvur, mliiir riuifiiii ■o'lvely ii|Mr.iliii){ tn iiilliiiiiii'i) im in litkiii)( tho aotinii wu (litni took, .'^iiiiiii of iliiKt) iini n» fiillowii : "I. Wo rt<,'lo>l Dr. M«.mI>iiiII iki iniicli in >ro it ui'IiIhmI practitiiiiiur thiiii n inuwiniury. Nnr il<> wo think It inorniv n mitttur of ii|iiiiiiin. 'I'ho niiniml rii|iiirlii milniiiltuil liy Di' Mnolin till to tliii C'onnMl *hiiw ihitt hi!i iiiKilintl |ir»otioii U nut incniiHiiloritliKt. .Vml whun ihn I'liiimoiiMnl Iho DnitiirH i'n.<;i)f tlim I'lty iivur which hiH prnotiri' ii unklitriiil, ivn ihiiik il will Imi Mliii'iii.t, I'Vi'ii if thu.4uci>nHi(lt'n\li'i', •'< thuy aril, that it wiis no surioiiH liiku of jiiil.;tiii'iii ili.il lit«en m> lH"Ktliitiin( nil thin, llio I'onninl h^d for Honiii tmui iloHrnil Dr. Mtcilumlil t> i(ivi' up iiiihIkmI Work Hti I iluvolo liiniKt-lf iixclnHivi'ly to thu work of tin' Cliiinh. At ilitl'uruiit tiinui liu hi I intiinitoil to n« tint if wi> reiilly bohuvod ho oii.(lit to il'i thm Im wonlil nt our ro |iii>iit do no. A yc).»r ni{o lint .liino «i>, im a iniu'il, nunniiniiMly |i'tan»il thu fiillowln!{ ruKolution : ' I'lint on lu-u niiitof thu di'iiiiiinii iiiid o|iunin'{ii in comitiL'tion with onr unlirKiiiK tiuld. tint •'iniu'il ennmitiy ro<|ii>iiit Dr. .M ii'd iii\ld to i;ii'ii np ihn nmdio.tl iind givii liliiM(>:f to till' cviiiijuliMtii' work.' .\ftiir ooinidcnim thu mutter In- nnnwurud tint Im ronid not eunply. SVu ln'llovu thnt in ordur to tlm ri^ht iindiirntitiidin); of thu work lii> HJiould At luKit aoii it. lliil niiii'u his .'utiirn to .tiiptn luitwoun mx iiinl •ovun vearNai;o, hu has doiio no ruKuliir Church work. Hu nuvur preaches oithiT in Kiifiish or in Jiiptnuau. liu auliloin iiui'i thu Work of thu I'liiiri'h, uvuii in I'oliyo Kvi'ii that work wlio.tu Hxpanaion hu Imi npucially oppoau I thu t'uiitral 'ralxiniiii'li' he ha> not ao mnoli aa xueii jiurionally inoru than four or liio tiniua kIiiuu ita inauguration ovur four yuara a^ i. .Vt toiliu othur four diatriuta, two hu haa anirt'oly auuii tliuau liiat uiitht yeara, and two hu hta iiuvrr xuun at all. Iiut this lii< I'onip.tri'd with tho Si'crotiry s dutiiiMion of a niiaaionary'a ilntii'n, a« xlvun in Ouncral ('onfuruimo : ' Tlio Hoard had imvur laid any ru- ■p 'naihility on tho niiiwionariua uncupt thu runiioiiHihility of attondinij to thu work of pruai'liiii'.{ thu IJotpulaiid of uuttinn aa many hoathuna cnivurtud a« p latililu.' —(ipiiin'hiii, Octolmr 3rd. With thu uxruption of pnruly ilHoial ilntiua Dr. Mac- donaUl'a work partjikus no nioru of tlm uhaiaotur of a niisaion- ary'i than that of any ordiniry iiiudiutl prartitionur. Wu b •lluvo that ho ia to miv'li an uxtuiit iMit olf from tliu work of tho Chnruh that hu im without th.it practical aynip.itliy wliuh one in hia poaition on^hl to Imvu. I'liia waa onu ruaxoii why wj t.'lt til it wu could not cnnH-'ii'iilioiialv nioiui't liliii to tlm chaii of thu ('oiincll. However, if thu ('liiin^h knowa that Dr. MtC'lonald ia wliolly uii;;a){i)d in xuciilar employ, and knowing; thiH auua tit to placu him in a |Hisition I < winch hu is practically liiHlmp of an imp irtjiiit Ncction of tho (.'liiirch, of conrHu no liavu nothinK nioro to nay. At tho Hiiiim tiniu wu can acarculy bu blaiiicil if, Huoin'^ thu iiopulussiius* of siuh a policy, wu luik to hs roliuved from a ly fnrtliur coniioi'tio i with tho work, lint it is import-int that wu bu hiiiu thu I'linich knows thu sitnition. "2. rii) BBCond ruaaon wia that wu dilfi-rud vury inaiurially from him aa to thu fiinctioiis of tho (Miairiniii in hia ollicu of C.osHililu for him to purforin tho socond of t!iu two claaaua of dutiua luoii- tioned above. It ia triio that Dr Snthurland atatod in (lunural Conforoncu tint Dr. .Ma doiiald had bcun faithful to thu Council, but it la ililll:ult t.o aou how hu cm bu p mitirc that ruiiorta (iropPi'ly ruprc.aont facts, wlioii hia aolo knowluiliju of thoBU facta ia obtalnod through thu aaid reports. A case in point waa that which was citod by thu Sucrotary in (iunural Con- furcn'O, bat in which h ' was wholly niistjikcn aa 1 1 tho facta. Wo ijovur ■challuni{od hia rinlit to ijio thu Hoard any otlmr information than thu rusiill of tho diaciisaiona.' What wo did tkku oxc'pt.ioii to was his method of doiii<( ao when, ua In that casi}, it toiidod vury inaturiiJIy to niisropruaunt tho action of the Council, liu aat in (hu cli.iir and jmriiiittcd us to paaa a roauliitloii omb'idyiiiK t'lo words, ' Wu unanimously and eirnoatly rui|ncHt,' and in tranainittin); it reportoil hiinsulf as oppoHud to it, giving hl.^ ruiaona, not a.s if ho hid chutiKod hia mind, but aa if that had boon hia opinion from the beginning. Thu n lar.l or the (Hiiminittoe might ii.Uitrally iiipp>ae that h.i hi I u\,ir 'S4U I tlioiu opinion I in tliu(y iiiii.)il, and thit wu had Inl till pri.'il <{u of aiM'Viirin^ tliu n or of itdoptm^ thuin to aav iiitliiii{ oi tlio .tbiiirlii.y of our foniiiiii, ' iiiianimoualy .ml uaiiiuttly.. nil I ir s i h oiroii iKlaii im wjiin as a n. tttur of fa< i. th 7 llrit >'>inj buf iro tlu Ciiinuil aoini tiiim aftur it ha I t.ik n •uiion. " Wrf rugirlil this diirurun 'o of opinion as ao vital that It buca>n < onr duty to uluci to tli» ii isitioii onu whniu we know vonl.l b liter rupruaont thu wholo ('oiin.td, ' ".'I Tim ihir I ruison wliv wo iIhI not oluct Dr. Mkodontlil t" thu ihtir w ta his c >ii luct in ru.{ir.l ti tho .SIii/,iiok« church dulit, and ospecialy Ins irettnmnt of .Mi'. (Ntsidy in that con nectioii Ills actiiii was audi as to rolloct alroni(ly on .Mr Casslily'a charactur. Wo c mslilurud hia iimthol of dealiit.' with tho caao most oxcoptionablo, and all thu iiioro ao a* Mr (/'aaaidy was aUaotit at tho tliiiii and could not aiiiwor for him aulf. Wu do n it know to what uxtunl tho at'untion of thu II laril has li.'oti ciiliu I to this case, but we h tvu no doubt that an arbitrati'iii of, miy, Ihtrf im'/hiiVihv,/ Hii.«imu(i ir< who are acipiiinlud with tlm uxl'.;uiiciua ot miaxion work in thu inlurior W'lild tin I tliiit, .Mr (y'lasidy's adminlstr iMon of thuMhixiioki clinroh atl'tira was, to say the least, not dui'o'.{itory to hiaxood liaiim. \t al uvents we di>l not thill's it wull to oloct to this |Hisi onu who had not buuii more uarutui uf an absent bnnhor miMsionai'V a r.'piitation. " I Tile fourth reason which wo intiy iiaiiio, an I otio which Is purliaps the m ist surioiii of all, iinderlyini; anil a.{gravatlni{ all the others as it his d , w.is tho attitii lo of Dr. .\lacdonald to tho dtll'eroii .'OS winch have for aonm tiiiiu uxiatel bttweuii onr .Mission and tho head of thu t.'oiincil of tho W. M. S. Those d iroronios. for which iieithor Dr. Kby, .Mr. ("aaaidy, nor any >f tlm rest of us ia In any way rusnonsiblo, havu had their in'l|{.ii almost uniiiuly in (lo'ty jealousies, and havu i{i'owii and wi'oii'.u butter that tiiith bo withdrawn, aii'l 'that every inomo t tho cvae rem liiiuil nnsuttlud tho more thu work was juopardizuil,' and inooovor iiidicatud that aurious liistancoa iiii-^^ht iio citud in winch the hu:id of the Wotnati s IMiasioniry Solely Coiinil had carri 'il out bur avowed purpose of coniiiiL' lii'tiveen tlie .Misn'on Council and Ihu.lapaiiuso auction of the Climcli. This ahoiild anre y indicato that wo woru aunsiUlu of the uxtrume ifi'avity of thu aituation. "Without, then, nciini; into fnrtliur dutails, wo think it will be soon not only that ivo wuru not without ruaaona for pur auiii',' the c'liirau that we did. but that if thu oloction of a Chair man. as wull as tlm other iliitioa of tho Council, imposed by tho etiiistltiition, untailud upon us .iiiy ruiipiniaitiility at all— and we continue to think thuy diil lliun wo conlil not con acioiitioiisly uli'ct to such a po.st a msn whoso poaition and opiiiioiia were aiich as wotiM lead him to nsu Ilia olhce to advise, in c innuciion with nearly uvory vital point of niisaion policy. ancli iiieasiiies as wu beliuvcd prejudicial lo tlm oltuctive pruau- cution of thu work of the Church In tliia country. " .\a 1 1 thu I'liarLfc madu by Dr. Macdonald In (iunoral Con foroncu tliiit our action in Ininicdi.'iluly inatallin<( tho newly oluoted ('iiainii.'in was illeKil, il miy bo saivi thai Dr. M icdonald hims.'lf at the lliiiu ru'.{ai'(led that aa the proper course, aincc he at oiicte invited him to thu chair; and though ho afterwards chan^eil hia iiiliul on this point, wo think it is, to siiy thu loaHl. aoinuwhal unnsn il tit declaru illuijal a coiiiho for which the law iloea not pioililu. .Aa to thu ruisoiia for a||||<|^ tlliMII ~l.li Hay , ' iiiiiiiiiiiiiiuiily .111 I iii.nt itiiMiluriif f/ici, liio nftur it li«.| Ukdii I'lii in an viul thiit i' iiiiu wliiiiii wu kiiutv i-r. Dr. Afu-'d.inil.l t. Iio Mliwii.ikk clmrcli 1. (IiKHiily III lliiit iviil |i)Ot Kiriiiiijly nil Mr iiikMiii'I iif il»itlli>/ |l till) iimru no It* Mr not inHwiir fur bin lliii nt'uiitiiiii iif tlin i I' ll tvu Mil ilmilit thill |iiiM.«iif Dr. .\likuiliiiiitlil llllil L>xlxtu I li.fwuuii 111! iif llui SV. M. S 'ly. .Mr. CiiMiily, imr imlilt', li;ivu llitil tlioir iiiii liiivn i{i'iiwii itiiil •>ll tllin lU'UllllIlt Wi. iiH |i ibhIIiIk, hut tliuy '.I iiitii iiliiiiiKt every tliis ii ill tlio viiry Kpoik iif, wii limy li,. liaii thnr li.itii Willi i 111 tliii emu, iif thoKi' .M iciliiinjil lian |-)«li llm CiMimiil ; lliil«ilii!ity nt all— II »-o fiiiild not con wlio.Ho piisltiiMi nnil IiIh iiIHl'o til ailviao, ll of iiiiNainn policy. II tlui oll'octivo prone iiuntry. lulil ill (Jiinoral Con nsliillim^ till) newly , lli.il Dr. Mu'iIoiihM ipur ciiiir.ii', since hi' iiiiit;h ho iiftcrwnnl.s i*. Ill Miiy the loiiHt, lo for which the Inw ii'loptiii}^ tliB course ti'iitiiin to tlmf. part siilijiict : ' .\t the niiiiiiL'loct took the 1 w.iH h.'lil four days rcsHod to ni9 (Mr. ty lo transfer to the 1 after tho approval i to do Si) provideil the action. When tor, which was con- l.ion ailopted — That uncil bei{in imniedi- lltely III) liin rU'clinn to the ulllet), wu h«r«liy Like Ihii responni- liiliiy 111 n'ith"ii/iiiK lliu riiliriiiK Chuiiiu'in to liiinil nver tliu fuiiiln, iliu'iiiiii'iiiN Hiid rotpoiiniliililii'i uuniit^cti'd with tlio nlHco ill till' rhairiiiiiii elti't. "'Siiiiiu of iliii iniiKidi'r.tlions wnieh led to thii deiisinn were ait follows: Ml XNIiiie it is ii cHseHholly uiipinvidi il fur ill lliii eiinsliliiliiiii iif Ihu I 'lUlii'il, the faitllial t lie ilieliiiim have always linen livid as llie lirst ileiii of liusiiiesi of each Hiinual nil t'lilix of llie I huiiciI lias leil In the suppimili m lliat till' step was 111 ei'Hsaiy in niiler lo ni'KaniKU. AsseinlilieH wlierc aiieli iiruiiMiMiliiiii IS not isHinlial place the order nl Ims^itss toward llie end of tlie iiieelinu. The oriler which liaa from llie first oliTaiiied IS that wliuli was followed in your prereiicn ininiedialely after llie aduplion of the present ci iiHliliiliiiii of the Ciiiini'il : IL') llui ililhriillitH eolineited Willi traiisfeniiiK the liiisiness woiilil lie iiiiieli urealer ill the iiiidide of llie year ; (:i) as the eleetiun of a ('hiMiiiaii is for one year iinly, ami elvetioii liy the I'luiiicil is ihe hrst step iieeetHsry lo his apiKiint llient. there wmild lie lliin dilHcully if liu conliiiiied lo hold the ottice lifter the ap|iiiiiiliiii'iil if his sueei ssor : ilis Icjii ot lidleo expires either in duly or Oitoliur. If the fotiiier. linn the otiii'u must lie vacant fur three inonlhsafti r every new electimi ; if llie latter lie tl.u niiie, then in the event of the refusal of the Hoard at any lime to approve Ihe uleotion, there iiiiinI lie a vacancy In the olhcii iiiilil e. new elcctimi can ho made and njiproved. " 'Tliesu reasons were considurel I'lfficien' to ilvterniino the I uctiiui of Ihe Council, espn-ially in tho face of the fact thai no I rilk was involved, and thiit if mir acliuii in this lirnt iimtaiiMe in rliieh we have lieeii called upon to deal with a iniilter of Ihe \ kiiiil did mil meet the mind of ihu h .anl, instriictioiiH could he f[ivvii toiliieei all Hiihsei|iieiit eases of tlie kind. I may uiy, lowever. that Ihe ('niilii II, ill coiiiiiiK to the iIhcIsiiiii lliey did, [ Hiiii;{lil to deal only with llie ahstract priniiple as lo what was i right III the else, ami hail no detire ivhalever to hasten a change I of inaiia<4eiiieiil.' " ll will he Mcen from this that we did not take tho initiative ill the i'lian;{e uf < 'li.iirnian, nor ilid we iiiHist mi such a chaiigu boiiiK made, nor was anythinu' done imr siiid to indicate the least rellection on Dr. Maedonald's chiinicter. .\iid certainly if there lie any ilk'Killly in the ciise, Dr. Macdonald liecamu party to it hy the leriiis of tninsfcr he himself proposeil. "And just here ll may not ho oul of place to siiy that tho I stAtomeiit imido in (leiier.il ('miference hy Mr. (Iilliiiii, that I Dr. Maidiin.ild'snoiieleitimi totliecliniriif the (-'oiincil ' crealed ; such profuuiid feelmvi; in .Japan that with the most positlieaiid intense determination he was re-elected . . Pr sideiit of (,'on'eience ' in entirely without foundation. Moreover, the opposition to the niemhers of the ('ouiieil hy the ilapaiiese ! brethren, implied in Mr. (Idlinii s statement, did not exist nor doeu it exist, if we can take llieir own eiiitdialic denials as havinit any <»eii.dit Neither was there the sinallesl exciliiiielit manifest at the election uf I'tesideiil. There was some e.xcite- nieiit a' the eiection of repfeseiitatives to the (leiieral Cmifer- «nce, hut wo have since li 'en infmmed on «ood authority that it was in resentimnl of the interference of the lie^id of tho Ooiiiiiil of the W. M. S. m canvassiiiK tliroiii;lioiit the field before fonfcreiue on heluilf of a candidate of her own ; and as to Ihe le|ieali d election of Dr. .Macdonald lo the eli'iil of the Omiference, it ii cap.ihle of 'in explanatiiin very diU'creiit froin that uiveii ill the lieneinl Conference, though one which retiucts no discriiiit whatever on him. "U ' Tins piihlic ciiisure. in word and act, cannot hut dis- credit IIS in the eyes of the Chii'ch, Imtli at home and in .lapan, to such a ilei,'iee as to deprive us of th.it sympathy and coiiH- deiiee esseiitiil In the siicces-ifiil jiroseciition of our work.' "Tins, in short, simply indicates what wo think .should he apparent to all, thit .m lilicial censure of men oi the liehl must he followed hy siieli 'esiills as to make it necessary hoili in the interests of the work and in justice to the men theuiHilves that they he recalled. '■ If the Methodist people take the mo t ordinary interest in iiiiKsion matlers, they must surely he aware of what look place at the (leneral lloiiforence in this connection; and naliii'.illy they »ill, to a lar^e extent, depend on those to whom they have enti listed til. ir niisHion allairs for the estimate they are to place on their ii^'eiils in the field. This liein;; the case, it will scarcely he douhted that the continued umplovi'ieiit of (itticially discreili'ed afjents must result, so far as the ('liiirch is ; concerned, in a serious loss of interest in its inii>sioiiaiy work. Nor is this Iho only serious phase of the question. In such a position the iiiisnioiiary's own ell'orts must also be nmteriiilly i crippled. I'eiliaps it is dilticult for those at home, whose work for Christ is surrounded hy so much that is inspiring, to understand to how great an extent a missionary depends for his i inspiration on the cmitideiice and sympiithy ami prayers of tho ■ homo Chunli. The ahseiice of such moral support would bo a ', source of indcscrihahle weakness ; its opposite would ho iiiien- : durable. Nor do wo think an agent futhfiil to tho Church I who, when he tiiitls himself in such a situation, continues in ; the work instead of asking to be recalled from it in order that It m»y bo plai'td in the hniiiU of Ihisin who shall be ib'" to proseciilu It uiidtr ciieiiiiistiinces that will reiidvr le cvsa piiasiblo. " In cnni'liisiiiii, wo should lik* tti refiT brielty to the ottioini letter of the Kxeciitive, puhltihi il in the lliiiinliini of Kebrimiy ttlli. W lllioiit leliiiirking liiitlnr on the letter itself than to say thai wlide eMeni'liig lo us the privilige of a heniing. It seems to inilicate that the mailer has been tlreaily deeidiHl, wo should like to refi I to a couple of points wlii. h strike us as piirlieiilaily unfair to the iiii'iiiliimiliiriy have heeii eealleil had he not already I'lmigned. Now, with regard to the eoiitiiiiiation >ir revival of these unhappy dissensions, nearly a year after Dr. Kby and .Mr. Cassidy left the Held, It iiiiist he obvious to everyone that whoever may bo respmisilile in Ihe matter these hrithren ccrt.iiiily are not. So far, then, as this iiiatter is eoni'erned, wo fall to see on what principle the brethren who are at home aro dismissed while tlioM'oli the Held are eonliieied in the work. '■ I'lay.iig that all coiicerned may he divinely directed in dealing with the ipicstion under consideralion, wo remain, " Vory sincoioly yi>iira, " KbkK CllI'MVV, '' .loliN (i. Dl'M.OI", " D U. M.'Kknzik, " \Vm. I'Ilmott, " Haupkii tl. C(>\tr.n, ".Ino. H. Ml'Arthur." Xf/f/y of Ihe Exenilivt. When till' luttcr of the missionaries, explaining at length their reasons lor reiniesting to he recalled, w:is recc'.ved, a tnetliiig of Ihe F.xeiiitive was summoned, and the suhject received long anil careful consideration. A rotnmittee was appointed to draft a rcjily to the letter of the missionaries, hut although I was named as a niemlier of that committee I took no p:.rt m formulating the reply, deeming it hest that il should he done hy those who were not in any way implic.ited in the di^piite. When the document came heh)re the full committee it was the suhject (}{ a long discussion, and ever-. |):iraj;raph was carelully scanned by members who spoke exclusively in the interests of the missionaries, but only very slight changes were made. It may be con' luded, therefore, that the letter expresses, in the mildest and most considerate way, the matured judgment of the committee. TimoNTo, Mn\i IIW/i, 189,"). ' Ti> h;-r.i. E. r.nimiiv. li.A . .1. Knr.ii; II. A., Il'-it. Elllftt. J. II. Maii are so vast and so precious tliat we can ill alliird any want of harmony either among tho lalioiers ill the field or hetw.en them and tho authorities at homo, lluwever keenly we m ly appi'cci te the situ.vtion, ive Jire persiiaile.l that you on the '.;roiiiitl, face to face with the Iremendoua issues involved, must he oven moio fully alive to any iiiterriiptions of the utmost cotioord and good-will and («cur- renees that mili'.ale against the highest success of the cause of (iod. Wherefore as iiiuuli as in us lies wo labor to onderstaml your miiul and circiiinstanccs I'lilly, that with tho spirit of tho (iospel and under the Discipline of the Church wo may so administer the trust placed in our h.imU in the providence of (iod hy our people that we shall assist ymi ill your l.ibors, and through the common sacrilice and toil contribute to the triumph of tho (iospel and the establish moiit of tho kingdom of Christ. "We are very much pleised to' notice tho ftatcinont in the opening of your second letter, that considerations relating to porsmial support have not even in tho smallest degree ontereJ into tho ipicstiona th it have arisen between you and tho au hor- itios uf the Society in this country. From statements that have 33 48 tiKNKIlAI, H(»AHI) OF MIMHIONH, 1805. I bavn r«p«itteill]r mitU, tli'< improui ii Iim I»'«ii rri'iiivil tli*t you umiaiiliTu I Hiitr yriiiu* Krii'tiiiiuuii on lliit groiiiiil. \Vu riiiiiMt liiit iiX|iri'Hii>Mii' MiKf* Hull »i yiiiir lU'clitr iitii'ii on lliiK |»>iiil. Kii'l ri'joicu llmt our iiiiiult alioiilil Iw rulii'vixl of (lull ;tii iiii|iru«»io>i " Willi r.iKunl to till! "itnu'lK >|iioloil liy yon, |iiir|iorliiw to hn ulAtiMiiinil* ni'tilii liy tliu lluv. I>r. Siiilinrlitnil in Ouni aI OonrurKiK'i', wi" liny «»v tlmt wii linvii m'l'ii « c iiiy of llio |i»r xniitl lutliir of Mitri'li lTiiIi, IHIiri, i«>lilriiM« I liy l>r. Hiiiln.rliuiil l4i Mr. (.!i.iinniy. mi'l of wlmli tlii' i'»f ol yon, wn iiiiiliTitikinl, hitvx jmil t'o|iii<4. \Vi' Imvo liiiln iloiilit hill lli!t' IliM Itillor will li'iVH ri mix i|>|irio in.tili' on llio niiiiil of llii' I'oiifiiruiii'o. llio rt<|ioit» nrx, tipoii tliiMr fiti'H, v«>ry niinli foiKli'inoil. iiinl niM'inmirily vi'ry iiii|H)rfi'cl. In huoIi cniiuii It nil. mill .ilwitva lin ki.'|>l III iiiiinl tliiil lli>' frtu'iloin of inii«t know tlm HliolxKnininl roMTud to form finyttiiin{ iiko ii jiinI. jnil^iin-iit of wlnit Iniii tnM>ii khi.I. It H of llii. wiy iiiitnri' itnil taaumi' of llu'iiii |inlilii' iliMiiaaiona thMt atniiiinrnia on one ahln of a anlorrt oiill forth luplu'a on tlio • itlivr anlii wliicli. Hinniliiii{ out li'i.lly liy llittnixt'lvi'a, wonlil »ptH3nr oliji'ct loiih lilu. Till' qiii'ation to nak ia, 'How ilnl tlin wliolu |iri-Hriktivu Imily T On aiirli ii iHuia of jiiii|{nii'iit Kx nri' conllili'iil llii>ro wna in tlm (ii'noinl CiMifuruiU'ti no nniniitilvi'raioii intinnloil for tliu lirulliiMn in >)a|iiii. ".Villi liuru wi' nmy li« |mrinitt«il to any tlntt lliii •)<• iKnil Soori'tiiry liiiKnIwuya lircii n atjiniii'li frit'iiil of tlio .lit|uiii MiiHion an|.ointu lio adjuKtod which it ihoii'^ht cniild lioat liu dealt with liy HiU'h ■11 iinpor'nnt itnd judicial liody lus the .loiiit t'oininiaiiion, and accordin;{ly thcHO inattora wore liandud I'vor fn acooiint of the ehan',(u in tli i Discipllnn hy which y III can oloel ymir own t'hairm til without any ratiHoation hoin^ rud. no eiplaiiali m of tlio rutsnna f.ir your acti niiiiiit4io, tnd tho aialomeiita of all the parties iiiterc of tlim kind In tho way of the citrryiii;; on of the work uliicli ia no dear to tho Master klid to all his lollowerN. " We hope to receive as apoeiiilv as may ho an aaaurnnco that your loyal iiiindH and hearts are aatisliod with these conaidura lions : that von are as lien tofore engaged heartily and aiicuesa fully m yoin utcat inisaion nork, and that the Ixird of tin harvest is givnii; voii inany ahuavos ua a rich and ahundi.'il reward of voiir l.ihora. " Sij^neil hy onler and un behalf uf tho Exouutivo Committee. "A. Cakuan, I'hdirmnn." I ni.ikt' no cotiimoiit upon the dorttmcnt lh.it has just liei'ti ri'.id, liirlher ih.iti to s.iy that to the lettor of ttic Kxt'iiilivc, Ml cniitii'Mlly frank and coticillatory in tone, no reply was leieivcil (save the letter from NIr. ("ruiTitny, alteadv .)iioUiJ), until tlii' ist of the present month. It may lie siipimsed, therefore, to contain the matured jiid^ ini-nt nf the inissiunaries in regard to the question in dis pule, and i< as follows : "Tokyo, Japan, S'pt. lUh, 1895. "Tiillir Kn rutin (\itnmitlir nf tUr IliHinl iif Miaaiunt : " Dkaii Katiikiis *nii Hiiktiikkn, Your letter dated Mii.\ ITlh reached lis in ilne lime, and »o reurot that the proaauru ol husineMs diirino the I'onferenco aeaaion, followed hy tho nooes aity, on itecount of ill health, of aoine of onr iiiiinlier leaviin; the cily immediately after, rendered it iin|H»ail)lo for ua to reply aomier. vninmy can ho i 34 '■^^^''^'^^W^'JC '*"'- IV."; W^'iA}' PROCKKDINO.S RK JAPAN AFFAFRS— THK SK(.'RKTARY'H RKVIKW. 49 I ill it« li)Kii|)acit.v. liuHiniMo I'lid. Tin II, iiftiT H eari'fiil mid I. IlltVf lllliilo BlU'll linii i\» thiiy ajiicvruly Wr loiitj iuiitly rely ill iliiiiii{ iill ill tliuii lit. Wi- can »t'u liiM i|ii'rfi'rt Hiiil n' tiiiu'» •I'ivud, iiitt y iiiittor.'. .'lit. W'liiini iiiijire!' i«ti'cl Ht lio'ciii, froiii mil. Now tluittlioHc wo pmy that, tliori' 111 in tlif wiiy (if till' I' tlio Mikttor and ti. " Wii miiiit iiiiirxu our liixli ii|iiirooj»(lon of thuaviduiil iipirit kiiiiliiHU wliicli |>iirvad»« ymir Itittur, and «'oii»i 111 tliiiik riially iixi«i, hut wliiidi wu Inar wo liavo It yul nui'i'itiidiid III iiiialiliii)( ymi to •u« In all thoir •uriouinuiia UKpuoially wliun wo aro lonvinoad that tl:«au illx nru liwud on unca whnli, if not ruiiiovuil, iniint vnry uruiilly joii|ianli/.o mir r wliolo iiiiMton Work. Wo iiiimt, thuroforo, |iniiiful though liK, iindurtako to *how Ihtt tliu rtiiitlilrrnltiini i/mi hoiv iiiiifd iiijhl III ln\j IM mil fit II' niii'l lllr ii'hirh n't^ hitv I lint, [fiire i/. i'ii<i: SnllifilititU I //k' '/.111 111/ Ciiiiffn'Mi''', and 'ml, U'lUnlirr iiiiit inliiiiiiinlriiliiv Ki.oi .'/f.',7,',/ /„/ /)i,. ./„i„/ I ',.,„ „,.<-„,„ .1111/ till' Hii.iiii 11/ Mu Wii nhall now mit'o iiniiii rofor to oaidi of tliiiHU |ioiiila in pi livht of thu rcfoionruii yoii liavu in your luttur niado to tlioiii. " Wu uannot iiinKirHtaiiii how thu Oinniiiittuu cKn think that lu in|ilaiiatioii n'lvan hy tho Suorotary in hii luttur to Mr. riiiniiiy can liu ru^jardud liy iia aa aatiafaut^iry. It nonaiata of Muntiiiij fir hia utiirnxHioua in (tunoral Confuronco, of wliiuli I ciiinplain, '11/ iiniAiiii/ n siiv.'/iiii;/ I'/inri/c miniiuit Mr, I'limnlii, »'Hi'(i'/iii, III' .<'ii/.i, * ftlitnihj I'nui'fyi'tl . . . tliat tho liiif thoU'/lit in thoir (thu .l.ip.in iniaaioiiarioa) iniiida wan thu tpoiid anil othur ailotvaiiou.'* tliuy rouoivml.' 'I'liia oliari{o Dr. ithoi'land a.ika (IH to accuiit. Wo nuod hardly any, howovur, at thori' is 1' iiiaiiliuo.tiiiio it li'ta not liuoii .iiiliHtanliatud. )>n thia lattor jiiit iiir jud:r. tinllu'rlnniVa n Ml'. *'i«ii/i/'(i Htiili'iin'ntii, ^tiit'inif'l />!/ il» eote M , CaMiili/n fli'iiliiiii. P' Wu in iy aity jiiat hero tlut it miiBt ho clear to thu (^uii |tuo that, huforo an oxplaiiatiuii can Natlafiwturily muot, th viion dttiiliii'^ with Niich a i|iiuatiiiii aa that liuforu iia, 1' luilii/ioll lil'lut /..' i;i'(7i' jinlilii'hl. Thu following O'llllidi'l. biia will, wo think, aiipjily aiillioioiit ruasona, if any aiu oasai'y, for thia I'liiituiitiiin. lat. — TIkmu atatuiiiuiita to licli wo look ii.xouption iipiii'iii'vil in tlie iinlilif pri'M. L'lid. — I Mtatuinxnt in tho otlii'ial lottor of Kuhrnary tltli, puhliahud in I (ri(iir./iii/Mivortliuai){ latiiruaof thutiunural Hupurintondent thu tiKiioial Sucrotary, to tho otfuot that tlioro wai nnlkimi bi'/iimii'i/i' ill till! (hi'ii'iliiiii roport'i, ia nut in hiirinninj n'llk [m'/)/iiiiii/i'i)ii ;(,'i'i'ii lui III! ili'iiiiiil Si'ii'i'tiinj in /ii'.i / the Hoard' in a con- ItiiMi which elicitod frmii Dr. Dowart tho reiily that ho c mhl I sou why Dr. .Micdonald could liu roliud on any miiro than I othor iniaaioiiarioa. ' Without roforriii'.^ ajjaiu to tho other atatoinonta qtiotod by Iwo may fay that iiv rnnnnl nee the fnrrr of tin: /o.i/. ' Tho ptioii to iiak ia, how did tho wholu prusentation afTuot the borativo liody / ( )ii such a basis of judi{muiit wu aro contldent t was ill the (ionoral (' uiforoiico iioaniiiiadveraionintoiidod kho lirothi'i'ii in .lapiii.' Wo cannot at all undurxtaiil how fact that tlio fioueral Conforonce iti'l not art ii/m/i rrrlnin I clianirH could prove that no such chart{os were intuiuled. I true your statoinont may bo meant to discriminate between • ' brethren in .lapaii ' and tlioHO now at home ; but it would mr that no audi diacriiiiinatioii was male in rronural Con- both from the statuiiiunts which we have quoted alnive, Iftlao from thu fact that Dr. .Macdonald in his spoeeh in the llsaion referred almost wholly to the niiB.siunario8 in Japan. bni(,dit add that wo aro sorry to ohaervo a tendency in tho tinittiie's letter to throw blame on Dr. Eby and Mr. Caaiiidy, 'we oannot sue they deserve, and that too tinthoxtt tMr twin I amtrldl, iw iiv HmitftuM, any prMltfl* t^t iltfinilni\i Utiin^iiiift. " Wu think wo ahovrud uloarly, in our Iwit lattar, and i/nii /iiii'« ,10/ /loivrw / "11/ ai./iiii»-)»/, -that thu Oonural Conforuno* dil iiiidorataiid ihi l^ucrniary'a statouitinta aa not only anliii- a'lviirtiiii(, hit iiitoiitioiiilly aniuikdvoiliiiif iipui thu lapaii niiaaionirlui. Kiirtlior, with no iithor iiiforinatioii than thu public rup'irtt of tlio priiciiodiii'.{a of (!oiif»roiicu, which you tell us H .00 ao incorruct, tho public cmild auar>-uly conoliidu othvr wlao , while thu vory |.ir,(ii iiiiiiitior of iKpruaaioiia that have roaolioil iia fruiii iiio libera of tho I'liuroh, includiiiK bith mem- iMira of thi< llonoril < 'ouforonco and of thu Kdiaiitivul/'oininittoe, niaiiru ua that tho (.'liiirch at larKU likuwisu undoratoial thu Soiu'otary a oxpruaaiona aa iiitoiiduil to convey thu moaning that wu attriliiitcd to thom. It la triiu that thuae biothrun ar* kind euoiit^h to inform ua that wu havii not aiiiruriid tliaoreilit in thu uyoi of lliu (y'hiirch ; hut tho roaaoii tliuy aaai,{n therefor is lilt that tho plain inoaiiiii'^ of Dr Huthorland'a uniiruiwion* did not tend thereto, but tinit iia hr uvta njmakinit nivli'r rj'rtt.e- inrnl, liii .it ili'iif'nl.i mrr nnf tnkm mirinniilji. Wo iiak, fathunt and brothi'un. whether iiiisaionariea aru to bo rwpiirod to dis- re|{aril tlio public HtJitcmoiita of thoir. Secrotary for such a ruaaon aa thia ; or wliothur thu Sucrolary dous not owu it to ua, and tu thu Chiiiuh, aiiil to himaolf, if ho did intund no aiiiinadvursion, tu cimooiit publicly and explain his words, if thuy aru o,t|Ntble of uxplanatioii, nr if not, to withdraw tliuiii. " Wo i'eiiiuiiibi>r, aa you aay, that ' fruudom of duliatN may incite to liiiua of ar;{iiiiioiit and fnriiiH of exprusaion that would not be alliiwalilo in wiiiloii diii'umontaor in ordinary diacoiirHo ; but wu rdiiioiiibor, too, that when in political aaaembliea iiii- iironor foriiiN of exprea^ifin aro, in tliu heat of dubatii, iiiilult(ol|iiii{ us that the (ienoral Confeieiicu did thiH and that, and therefore ' no slmulil loyally accept its iluciaioni ' It Houma to us, Imwovor, that in ao far as loyalty ontui-s into the (piestiiiii it points in a direction jiial the opposite to that which you indicate. If, for instance, wo were eonvincud that the (Joneral I'oiiferonco had liy mistake adopted a policy which loft no hope fur success ill our work -and wo have pointed out before that wo have ijrave foars in this direction — loyalty could acarcely reipiire that wo ahould continne hopuleaaly to expend the Chiirch'a fiinda. .\itaiii. if it could be aliowii that an act of the Huproiii'i(!ourt of til" ("liuich soliaorodited oiiu that he cimld not continue in the omplnymeiit of thu Hoard and retain hia solf- ro-ipi'ct, we cannot see that a proper loyalty can over reipiiro him to mike aiioli a sicrilico as this. l)rai;aiii, if in the le};is- latioii of tho liunoral ('luifereiice it can be ahown tlntt tium irere riiiiMil til Hiill'i r Ihi' iiriiri'Mt injnatiri; auroly loyalty diios nut for- bid thorn to protest ai;ainst it. " You tell ua that the appointmont of Dr. Macdonald could not bo reasiiiably coiistniod 'into a roHoction on any other brother,' and that tho ■ leijialation was j{oiieral,' and hence, so the tenor of your letter indicates, w.ia no more a rullu'tion on our Council than upon any other Council exiatin;; or to be foriiiiiil. .Vh to the former atatemunt, we did not complain that thu appointment of Dr. .MrcdoiiaM was a ' rcHection upon any other brother,' but that the act of tho Hoard in iiniKi.sin(( upon lis as our virtual ',')ad one who had buuii unanimously set aaide by the ('ouiicil was a rotloction on the whole Council as emphatically uttered as wo think could possibly be. This you liiivu not controverted, nor do wo think it possible to controvert it. With ri".;ard to thu lattor st'itement, we wish to point out tho fact that we have aiifTiTod tho gravest injustice throu^jh tho leijiHi.'ition of the .loint ('ommisaion. You tell us that the chaii!{e in our constitution practically had no more relation to US than the brethren in (.'liiiia ; yet Dr. Sutherland writes as follows : ' Let me s.iy that up to tho )iresont year no exception was taken to the constitution under which tho Mission Council was suppoaod to bo adiui!, and 1 express it aa my opinion that exception wonld not have lieoii ta'ioii had the Council adhered to thu Constitution (Tudor this regula- tion ' (which according to Dr. Sutherland permitted the Council to nominate but not elect, but which statement ho liaa since correotwl) ' evurytliiiig went well until the mooting of the Council in ,Tuiie last, when they not only nominated but elected a nuw Chairmui of Council, and as soon »a this was done demanded that tho ptipers, books, money, etc., be p1ace'iV> hands, without any reference whatever to the Beard ol Mir- aionr.' Our letter showed clearly that we neither demanded imr firetsed that such should he done. Vrt for tbero off- iiron. e^tiib- ished by evidence Fuch as thif, we were, as the Secretary cleiirly indicates, punished by having our constitutional privileges with- drawn. We aik frankly whether this can by any coniteey lie calUd justice, or wheiiier w'ien men are so treatrd it is the < fhie of loyalty to be silent I " Nor can it be denied that, as the Secretary indiciites, this ftction was intended to be punitive. Not a lact could hav; been citeiii;!?in'Jt « man I'lr lile who had stumbled in the dark, to insure that ni> would not do so again — unless, indeed, punish- ment as we ! 'n prevmliun was intended. " We nee i not diicues the (|iie8tion as tn whether the coni-ti- tution unih r which we acted was conhrmed by the Board or not. We think it the Executive Coniiuitlee had availed iself of iho very simple expedient which lay iit hund, ol writing to the four men who where iu Japan at the lime the constitution was formed, am' who were, when the Committee was at woik, within a lew days by posi Ip ni Toionto, it would have been able to ascertain the facta <>f liie case with greater certainty than was possible I y mere conjecture or argument. At all events, we can say that if it were discovered that the conatitutinn had never been rntihtil. the fiiult would be h und to he with either the Secretary or l)r. Macdonald. However, the point has no bearing on the case, since it is admitted that this constitution was acted ujmiii, iinii since it is this same constitution that we are -rharged with and punishe 1 lor treaking. " You have called our attention to the fact, in connection with the legislation ot which we tmiplain, that four di liberal ive bodies, namely, the (ienrra) Conterence, Joint Commiio-inn, the Board, the Kxecutive Ci mmiltee, came independently to the anuie conclusions, and you riniind uc that this fact sIhmiM wilnh much with us. But, everything consideie.l, we do not Hti- thut this fact tne'ins sj mich as it iiii^ht ut hrst seem. We are not aware, to begin with, that the (ienerul CoiLlerence considered ihe ((iiey- tion iii detail, or came to any conclusion upon it. We have been under the inip:''Khi' c^inection we would add only this. thill we are perfectly uillii g to refer to a disinterested tribunal the i(Uesiion whether in the light of the facts we have referred to we sulijecled your aetinii to any ^trained interpretation' when we fsw in it tie meaning we did. " We wifh now to say that you seem throughout your letter careluUy to avoid the exiiresa statement which one would sup- pose our iiiisiinderstniiilliig-at least if it be on har! called for, namely, thut cur recall is !iii( desired by the Board. Yet the tenor of ;.our htler would seem to imply this, and to indicate that the ntaleiiients report d as c'itnii.g from an authoritative siurce. and leaving the iiiipiession that the item of expense in biiiigiiig us honi ' was tiie only barrier to our recall, would appear III have h'un sii > xprission of personal opinion and the view of the Coniniittee iis u whole. At the same time, we think we have shown that if Ihe leulslative and adminiatrative action of last HUlumn did not lilntiuctly ..ontradict what is staled in your Setter, it nt least did ail it could do to make it impossible for us t.) sisy. Now, we believe th;; express significarce of this legisla- tion and the iiii|illoil asMiruiice of your letter ca^ be reconciled inly on the ^.tiuihI ihal the legislat.or was hasty snd incon- siderate, mill altiigrthu- a grave mistake. If such w(re the case, we may surely expect thut until the error in legislation can be reotifiei' IIh evil elt'ec.s will as far as ijosaible he mitigated by the udniiiilKtriitive action of the Boani. At the same time, we UMisi say :hHt the cancelling of even a less degree ot justice than this iiiljili' in our opinion. ■ stly warrant the calling of 8 special seusion nl ilie lliiieial I'. inference, if it is impossible that the wring ijiii lie rlt;htiil in any other way. The advisability of some aueh |iroee>'iiie i" eiiiphasired by lb' ..ct ihat the attitude •it the lute .Annual Cunferenee would aee'.i to indicate that the p'.eient pollev ol che lioaid is not at oni with the mind of the (Jhiirch. " It' this connoition, we would add that we fail to see the I. er o! tVe Ion. ark ihat the change niade in our o 'nstilutii n so all) Its thv I'use that ' ii'i explaiistion o( the reason for our action li si .iuiie «»s iieriasary,' surely ihe Committee doea not meal' to fe; ihat iibsi i|i'eti' li gislulne aition ran itmove the oulpi'vility of a pifv'oii" I Hence ■ and Ihe (,'ouitnittee will not luive li'igotten ilnii Dr. MuoiUmald, at Dr. ."'utherland'a r(i|ueat, lu'wle a Muteniei.. ■ tii-nirul Cinlerence .n which our action in re ising to "rlect Inn. whs seriously impugned, and reasons assigned thetelor which Uud in higher uulhuiity than his own iniSiiinalii n. So, wbili- there was no necessity ihf.t we should exi'liiin why we oust a pnrlie.ilar ba^ot, the citation of that false reusoi; in u slutenniit niaile nt 1),. Sutherland's request, ren- deriil it iniuii.hent upon us lo eovitrsdict It. We think that is clear, and that no amount ot subs< .juent legislation rould alfect the ease. A' Ihe same iimi-, we would nut he understood sa pH'ferring ihuijie.s uguinrt I.tr. Micdnnald ; we never undertook to pay why you sSiould ii'it appoint liliu us your reprosen.-.iive, if Indeed our rijeili"ii lif liini did not siiHlce j we simply cited what well! iithcier.t rensmis lor us on the held not to re-elect him, uikI thu- we did as we say, solely Im cause, at Dr. Suther Ismi's re'iueit, l>r. Mmiloniilil had undertaken to inlortn Con- ference on the print, I nt had done !n contrary to the ficts, and manifest pn jmlice to in., "There If siilt uui tliei nintlor to ivhirh we desire to call yo'ir .•^'-ti'iition ; on the si eoml |«ige of \oiir letter yio. express your plettsuie it I'lir sl.iitmeni that ciiiisnleriitions of personal mp- poit iiiid ni.t enli red into ihe i|ii^slliin of our reipiest for recall, nml ai'd, that thi iinpressinu hud goni' uhronl thut we consideied irurselves as huvhig a sern us jjru-vuiiLe on this giound ; now, we think you in'.st yi.urselv. a admit thut there Is here a tioH Mqiii- tur. The flirt lliut persi nal gilevances of any kind did not enter Into l/ie oueilii. II ol our n quest for recall that we made tneh ri qneft s' lely htennse the (lain ineuning of the SecreturCa I xpn Bsii lo. tiilli Will l,y ilic legislative und udminstralive action ol the .Iiiint (-'oniinission miiI ihe Uiar.l, indicated that our reriill was ilrsirei'— does ni I ut nil imply th.ii ».' have no gilev ante,s. On Ihe loiiiiury, »e have grlevutiees, very serious griev- ances iinleeil. They do nit ii lute wholly, or even principally, I. ihe mutter of personal siippoit. but are grievances neverthe- less, and more serli ns, t.,., ilnm any if a financial character could possibly be ; sineo they are bused on cauw .: which, if they continue lo eiiit, iiiiiht irretrievably destroy any hope of pleas- ■\n\ co-r.peratl(iri hetwten the liuutd and its "miisionuriBs, .'s well ;)c ■MMpfMMi^^Mi i.'.-'%v1j,„-^,.^ ■ ,if^ nf" PROCEEDINGS HE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVJEW. 61 the Hotrd. If on opibion had been come to the nine leculiveConiDiittee by a nearly unini- come to certain wrd and Executive of the individual when they pa»en rould affect understood ss iver undertook reptoscii..,iivtj, e simply eited lot to rr-elect t Or. Suther- inlnrm Con- Ihe fscls, and ■e to call yo'ir ixpresB Vour personal 'mp- •»t for nciijl, »■'' conaideii'd 'id ; niiw, We a '">« Kijiii- '"d did not at we n»ide e Necretarj '» rati ve action 'd that our ive no|;iiev erioiis(;(iev- I'rincipally, '« nevertbe- »1 charHcter licb, if ibey J« if pleas- <■;»», -'• well fas 4ny prnspeot of uUimai< success in the work of the B mrd, ' either bore i>r in an." of tb< foreign fields. B it the prime univ-ie ofour xrievaiiees in the pa * las been the failure to ^et before the U^uid and the Clmruh at humu correct aud sutiliMuut inlur- nutioii witli rexarl to ourselves and our work. Tliis, we ara couviiiced, has beiu at the foundation of most, if not all, of the pr^Dniil ) of affairs shiill uUiniatelv be found to rest we cannot say. But we are at least obliged for the time bein^ to hold the (luneral Secretary responiili'e (or it. It may be that the lack of iiifonnat'on of which we complain will be found to be largely due to tbe ver> deficient mode of ciininunication which basexisteil, ami sti'! oists, between the Council and thj Board. We bavu bsiig fr.t thai tc was practically imp issible for Dr. Mtcdonald, who is ' iiinide our work, to supply su^:h infor- mation with regard to c as would enable the B lard to intelli- gently administer the affairs of the Mission. But if such be the eaie, it "'as surely suuidal on the part of the General Secretary, when we sought to remucly this evil, to throw the whole weight of his influence aitaiost our effort, ii any case, the B rely on the General Secretary for it< information, while hu seems C aii ML^sion and missionaries. Certainly we could not be insensible to any kindnes'i of hi* in tbij regard ; at the same time we must say that if our missi >n Work were carried on on diplomitic lines, so that supplies tor the mission did not so much depend on the real ne^di of the work as on personal favoritism on the part of the S^T.-tary, this fact would be of no i'lnall importance ; but if it is, as wu be'ievo it shonM be, the policy of the B lanl to consider the actual needs of each field, niid tc vote supplies accordingly, it beco iie< of vaxtly more iiunortance to \n than personal friendship that the S'Cietiry be mi p'Siession (d'the exact facts relating to our work, and tiiat he p'.ese:it them fairly before the Board. In this, we are obligeil ti say, wu have very serious cause lor complaint. " Wo shall I 't"* ". few instioros in which wo are conviiiood that lack of iiifoniiitioii, if nut a ; sitive misropreseiitation of tho facts, has tended smlously to uroato prujiidieu in the mind of tho Board and Church against the iiiissioiiaries on this Held. Dr. Sutliorbmd assures us in hia letter to Mr. Cromiiiy, that the improsNiiiii has gonu abroad that the missiouKrieH in Japan seem to caro for little lint their stipends. Wo believe t'lat a fair uiii|tiiry will hIiow that this false iiupruasion — which is not less serious than ialso — is not due to any improper coiidiiut on the part of tliu iniMioiiaries tbuinsulvtis, but rather to the (Jeiioral Socrelary. "The first insutiico wh shall note is one which has, in nur iipiiiiiin, played no tittle part in creating this impression. Wo rit\ r to the childreiiN fund ; this, in short, Cdiisisced of a claim ii)i the pan of the iiiiHsioiiaries : ' 1st, that if a certain salary is not too much for a lamily of two, is obviously too small for a family of seven ; aud 2od, that when a MLssioii Board is operat- ing in a distant lield, thu circumstiinces of which can be known only through it mi.ssioiiaries, it shoulil take tho missioparies into its uinifideoco whiui it undertake.) to adjust tliuir stipends. These claims, besides lieiiig on their very fiu:e reasormlplo. aro rucogiii7.ed as such by every considerable Board working in this country --our own Board and General Conforonoe being among thoso who taku tho sumo view. When tho missionaries were urging this claim. Dr. Sutherland, and Dr. Sutherland only, of all the nieinliers of the Boanl, was, both by private cmiversu- ti(ni and by correspondence, put in |)ossos«ion of tho exact iiatui'o of theclaii,' ; yet, it was so presented before the Board that (Oie of the most hi>norud men sitting on 'he Board at the time w>vs coiistrainml to term the inissioiiarieH on the tiebl 'a pack of mercenaries ' ; and, though the Board has since coiuo to recog{ii/.o its mistake, the Secretary c uitinues to use this case to prejudice thu mind of the Church against tho missioiiarius in Japan. " .'Vnothoroaso which wo shall rufurto )(tvus ua particular pain to muotion. When Dr. Cucliran was sent to .lapaii the second time, his stipunil was deteiiniiied at ;^l,.ollO, with the assurance of the then Ti'e.isnrer of the Mission Board that it would con- tinue at that anionut as long as lie romained in the sci vice of the Board. This salary was >lel( rminuil upon because it was the amount then being paid by the loading chinches in our connexion, which grade of clinrch Dr. llocliran had for somo time be ii serving. This .arrangement contiuuid iinbrokuii until the meeting of thu Board in St. John, N.B., in IKltl, when, witliinil any consult itioii whatever with Dr. Coahran, his salary was rcdnci'd to that of an ordinary inisaiiuiiiry. A ibe same Board ineeliii>{. in view of tho fact that the salaries pail' by the leadin;; cIioicIk^s had risen. Dr. Sutherland's silarv • ••" .-(Ivane. d to |>.',fiiM) in spite of the f.iot that Dr. Cochran'' bad just been re luilf that aiiKmnt. It would soe n ti..>t the claims of a man aro considered who is on the gro'ind to sDeaV for himself, while he who is in the mission fiolii has eith r to suffer injustice, or, a^ '.vo believe w..s the oiso lieie, to bo entirely fin-gotten. Dr. Coohran. wlii'.i modestly abstaining fiom making any application to the B' ard in bis own behalt, «aa, before he left ua, hoard U> give, ai lung the rwiuni why he oiuld not oontiiiuo in thn work, that ho could not think of uutriistin{ his obi age to a Board which thus refused td be govurnid by the commonest business principles. " ^fow wa aro gl id to confess that wo do not foi' a moment believe that this was a deliberate act of injustice on the |iart of the Board, but that it was either miainformed or acted without iuformitiiiii ; iiid wo mist say that in eiiher ease the blime rests with the (Jonoral Secretary. " We would now call your ttontion to tho lett;" which the C iiiuil roceivei) from t) . Sutherland in tho spring of 1893. The otUcial purp >se of tho letter wtia to intimate the Commit- tee's refusal to grant a siipplomontary ostiiuato which the Council had <■ .ed for tho Central Tabornalo. The solo act of tho Counc'' 70.: I'd ask for the reconsideration of a olaim which bad b^ei disallowed rather than to suffer the discontinuance of one of the moat important ugonciea of our work ; while the •loinbers agreed that it it wore neoeasary, pending the dooision of the Board, they would advance the amount of the estimates aaked for, and hold thenisolves personally responsible for the amount in ca:iu it were refused. This has never struck us as liartioiilarly blameworthy, and yet tho Secretary saw fit to make it appear as an act which possessed no small degree of moral culpability. In the saino letter, to illu.strato the tendency of iliu C luiicil to insubordination, he charged us with permit- ting Mrs. Kl)y to return to Canada without firnt hearing fn m the B lar I, when, as a matter of f ict, in tho Minutes of the very meeting at which this permission was given, there is noted a letter from Dr. ..l^ithorland allowing Mrs, Eby's return. Purthor, in tho same letter he deals with Dr. Maedonald'a resign itioii as Chairman, which ho had handed into tho Mission Co in il, and with regard to which the Secretary had obviously no Inforni.ition o.xceiit hearsay, sineo Dr. Macdonald assured us at the time that ho had never mentioned it in writing home. Altliough Dr. Sutherland's statements in connection with every important point ia this case were wholly inaccurate, yet he makes it serve as tho basis of a reproof of tho most offensive character to every member of tho Council hut Dr. Mac 'onald. We felt at the time that wo, tho younger men of the Council, could afl'iiril to suffer some degree of injustice in silence, but we dill feol sorry that somo means could not be devised for prose- cuting mission work which would not render it necessary to heap insult upon the head of a veteran missionary and honored minister who stood so high in the regard of the wholo Chnruii as Dr. Cochran. '• While of late there may not have occurred anything so pain- ful as these incidents, still the smaller causes for complaint have seemed to multiply. We have had to see ouiaelves mis- repr'3sented by our General Secretary in the courts of the t;hurcli a:id in public oHicial documents, when statements were made in regard to us which, though totjilly false, have not been corrected, even iMter the facts have been jilaced before him with the greates., (Ossible clearne.ss and courtesy. Wo have hud to suffer injustice .'.t the hands of the courts of tho Church, as indicated in the previous parts of this letter, which injustice we wore sni was duo to no unjust or unkind inleiit, but to lack I,!' th.it iiifonnation which it was the duty of the General Secre- tary to po.ssess liinisolf of and present to those concerned. " We have had to hear that Dr. Totts was obliged to remind the General Superintendent in the chair of the Executive Com- mittee that the men he was animadverting upon were ministera ill good standing in the .Methodist Church, and could not be so spoken of without a pri.peily instituted trial. We are obliged to think that our bLioved General Superintendent does not coniiiionly indulge in statements of so serious i character as these, to which exception 'vas taken, without at least supposing himself to be in pos.sessioii of facts to warrant them ; and as no such facts exist, ho evwlently must have been olticially misin- foriiied. Wo have had to endure the ribablry of tho public press over statements regarding us which, from their very nature, niiisl lieve come directly or indirectly from the General Secretary, or which ho should have been able and willing to contnidict, as tlioy wme absolutely false, or at least serious niisrepreseiitatioiis of tho truth. " We have had .n see our brethron at limue, Dr. Eby and Mr. Ca sidy, siiflbring the gravest indignities im charges which we believe no impartial tribunal in Chiistendom would substantiate and largely traceable to the door of the (ieneral Secretary. Wo have boon obliged, as far as I'lO work is ccuiceriied, to oee it trailiiio itself along in a I '.>-i,,iishiiio state since, though in uiinibers wholly undermaniied ; it has been left to depend upon the efforts of men, everyone of whom suffers from tho inijxpeiieiice coiisei|Uent upon his being engaged in his tirst term of service in the country ; while nearly every mm of oxpirieiico who has been in tho service of the Board Ins lieeti driven from its employ. This, for instance, has been the case with Dr. Eby and Mr. Cassidy, who h;.ve been ilriven out, either by an i nfortiinate policy, or what we must regard as a inos'. unjust decision ; and with Dr. Cochran and Mr. Siiniiby, who, even if tho primary cause of their retiieinent had been removed, would have found it impossible to re-enter the work of a Boaiil in tho ;)toii:i8es of which the one could not feel that he could repuiu conndenco. 37 52 GENERAL BOAKD OK MISSIONS, 1895. m «i«'i\ii> which thu llonril itsull thruw ill thu wity of hi* work. Nor, iw wu iiuili'ititniul, ■fe tht'iio Ihi- only viilimhlu wurki'iit of ux|>i'riviu'>> th.»\ Aw Uoiiul has driven fiviu it« survicu. \\u hiiukIiou, foriimtmicu, wlmtlivr the Church ut lioinu clvnrly iiutlumtuiiilH thiit l>r. Muiiul'uiu was without any BuHivivnt rusmni (lro|i|iv>l from tho work of lliu Buard, nnd is in coii8U(|uuiivu fi|iuiilu tiiiiu in thu service of luiutlu^rtlmu in his own. " To one who comes facu to fscu with tho prohluins which have to be grnpplvd witli in thu misHion livlil, thu h>.i« nf niicli experieiicuil workers as tliiie is iiim|ily inrnlouhtble ; niiil wu cannot think that our Hoard hut iiiditK>ri'iitly iKiun'd lhi> fiut, ')at that the loss which it has sullcrt')) iho work to undurgo Ims tsen diiu tu the abnencu of that inforiiinlioii which it isthu duty c' tho ttt'iiural Secretary to supply'. Tins ii> sonic | if the resull^iof the one ureal cause for complaint which we mentioned: tho llonid's lack of information ulxiut im and our work ; »u cannot r(>fuse to lvco^- niy.e tho seriouaie;K» of their iui|iort, nor can wo deny lliat tho knowled){o ot them haa, for t(i >e time hack, lel'eseiitcd lo tho Board was not based upon them, and that heiiu« they had no direct liearing upon the (|UCBtion In liainl. " Wo would assure you, fathers and biethron, that It would havo Imen much less juiinful to us to have iiiiuid from the work nf the ISoard altovethor than to be callid upon lo deal mill thia t{u;^stion as we have : but, an we mhIii to have been ^lVl"l no alterimtive, and as it waa your expreas dcHire that we ahoiild speak our whole mind vith ivijard to e\istiiiu grievances, we have undertaken nt least to imiicate what we ludieve to be at tho fonndiLiion of most of tliriii ; and wo conliiiiiu to pray that out of all the diOicultics by which tir.i Mission at pri-seiit seems sur rounded, thu Lord may ^niilu uh in Ilia own way, and thereby add to ilis glory in the ]>roBpcrity of our /ion. (Si({l>.oil\ " KlIKU t'lllMMY, " I) 1! McKks/.ik, " .Ino, H. .Mc.Vktiii'h, " .loiiN (J. l)i!«i.ni', " Wm, Kluii'IT, " HaHI'KH H. l.'OATES. " You will have notice*! th.tt tlte R.\enilivi! ilid not rcplv lo th.tt i«rt of the letter of the missiunaries wliicli relerreii to Dr. Macdoiukl, as they deeineil It only rinlil llwtt lie should lie he,-»r(l licfore action was taken. This point will be considered under a sei>.nriite lic.ni, and I will now proceed to s[)eak of matters cornei:ti'd with his ri'sinnaliun. Dr. Afiudoaitid Resigns — Not AcctpttJ l>y Iht ExttHtirf. In the autumn of 1804, Dr. .M.tcd(mald liecaim- ronvinced that it would be dilTicult, if not imivissilile, hir him to main- tain amicable relations with the- Sllssion t'oiinril, and liiat the liest way would Ix' for him to resign. Siilisi'nueiitlv liiii resignation was sent in due form to the K.xccutive, as fol lows : "Tokyo, Jaia.n, Dnym^r 30/*. 1K94. "Dear Doctor,— Thinkinj; that my wuhdtnwal would fan litate the adjustment of afairs in Jap.in, I bcjj lo place in your hands my resignation as Trcasiirer and (iirrcsiamdinn Scire tary, and as a ineinljcr of the japan Mission oi the .Methodist Church, kesiiectfully subniitled, "D. MAnxiNAI.!).' The Executive were convince, I that it wcuihl Im- unwise to make such a change while im|xirtant mattery ari'ecling the mission were under consideration, and the folhiwing resolu- tion was ado]>led : "That while highly ajiprecialln^! the wlllintjiicM of the Kfv. Dr. Macdonald to resijjn his position as Tirasiirrr and t'orres ponding Secretary as a possible means of soKuig the ilithtiillics ID Japan, this Commillce, as at present advised, does not sec its w.-iy to cimrur in the proposal, and theiefmc mniests Di. Mardnnald to hoUl his le^i^'nalion inalieyance, and tocuntiniie to (lisrhar).;e the duties of Treasurer and t'ories|Hmdin|| Secre- tary of the Japan Mission.'' TAi" Kcsigidtion Pressed, At repeated intervals 1 )r. Macdonald alluded to his resig nation, and pressed its accejitance upon the Executiv.. These allusions will be better understood in the light of the I following extract Ironi one of his tetters, dated December | JO, i8c;4 : " I lieg hciewllh to send copy of a letter forwarded tome by I Mr. Ciunitny in orilcr, as he says, that 1 may 'be in a position to give the Hoard any advice that you may see fit with regard to sunplying the positions left vacant by the action indicatetl therein.' | I his lefers to the/rj/ letter asking to be recalled.] "Ibe biethrcn, 1 have heard, met in Tokyo. This letter, I suppose, expresses the result of their deliberations. They have « ritlen to you fully, I suppose. The mail of to-morrow will be the tirsl sini e the letter came into my hands, so this goes by the earliest opportunity. "A tew days after I received the letter, Mr. Coates called and talked over the situation. He had .ample time (five and a half hours) to s.iy all he wished to say, or could say. He used the term ' we' lliroughout, so 1 conclude that he represented the Tcst of the brethien. They seemed to have grievances against me, against the ladies, against you, against the ISoard, and .igainst the (icnoral Conference. " Mr. Coates asked mc what I intended to do, but as I had not thought over the subject, I did not reply. From Mr. Coate^ conversation, and the tone of it, and from observation. I have reached the follow ing conclusions : (i) That a working coinproniise is utterly out of the question. (2) "That 1 must go, or they are likely to go. ".•\s it is much eas:.^r, and produces less disturbance, to accept the resignation of one, than of several, I place my resig nation in your hands. I do this with the hope of relieving; matters. I shall not feel aggrieved or discredited by its being accepted. "Mr. Coates said, 'Unless the Hoard does something wehave made up our minds to leave the work to you and the Japanese.' I have considered this also, and if it should become a necessity. I will ai cppt the situation and work it, but as I said before, the easier way seems lo be for me to quieljy step out. " Mr. ( oatcs also told mc that he had already communicated their action to the Japanese (to Mr. Toyaina, pastor at the Tabernacle'. This, to my 11 id, constitutes a reason why the whole ipiesiion shoulil be ili led with as little delay as pos- sible. " Mr. Coates spoke alioui not working .my longer in con- nection with the iiiissiim of the .Methodist Church, but he left the impression that they might enter some other work here The above is all the information that I have on the subject." In this connection I may .say that I was informed last winter liy one of the missionary secretaries of the Methodist Episcopal C'hurch that when Hisliop Ninde was in Japan last year, two of our missionaries applied to be received into the M^ithodist ICpisropal Mission, but it was deemed inadvisable to receive men "who had lieen refractory in another mission.'' Alliid'tig to the Japan ilifliculty, under date of December j8tli, iSi)4, Dr. Maidonald said: " I'he more 1 'liink over affairs in Japan, the conviction becomes stii.ngcr that ihe easier way out of the difficulty is for mc to resign. I write now to press the acceptance of my reslgnaiion. as suhmr.tcd to you. After the conversation with Mr. Coates I deem it impossible for me to remain in Ihe mission." Again, und'.T date of January 3rd, 181,5 : " I am persuaded that the sooner this i|uestion of the recall and resignation is settled the better it will be for our work here. I do not see any otlcr w.iy out of the difficulty than for you toac; cpi my resignation, for I must dec line to be associated in the woik with the meinhers of the Council. The posiliun, to my mind, is an impossible one." The Policy of Prtssurt. It seems to have been the policy of the missionaries from the begmrimg of this controversy to appeal for public sympathy, and in this way to put pressure upon the Hoard. Tliis has been done by the returned niissionaries. and also by those in Japan. In a letter from Dr. Mac donald, dated January jjisl, 1895, I find the following : " Early In January one of our laymen said to me that there were many disriuictmg rumors afloat, and that he would like to sec mc II; regard lo these rumors. Mr and one of the pastors called, rhey said that the brcihren had all tendered iheli resignations, as ihcy h.id b. en iold, and that I had also sent mine. I asked tl.cm where tluy got their information. They said that it came from 1 longo. It seems that when the brethren 8|t W^^^^^^^jml^^^T^ PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 58 ludetl to his resig r the Executiv'.. In the light of the i I dated December I lirwarded to me by V ' be in a position pee fit with regfard ^ action indicate»l to be recalled. I lyp- Thia letter, I |tions. They have ^lorrow will be the this goes by tht Ir- Coates called tjme (five and a P" say. He used k represented the inevances against It the Board, and <'o, but as I had I'ply. From Mr. from observation, ) That a working 'hat I must go, oi s disturbance, to I place my resli; lope of relieving hted by its beiiij; n^ething wehave id the Japanese.' ;ome a necessity, I said before, the lUt. ly communicated la, pastor at the I reason why the le delay as pos ' longer in con- urch, but he left 'thcr work here n the ^subject." s informed last r the Methodi.st ; was in Japan to be received "' wa.s deemed f> refractory In B of December the conviction difficulty is for ■plance of my ncrsation wiili remain in the 1 of the recall for our work 'cully than for > be associated he position, to missionaries al for |)ubll( ■e upon the missionaries 11 Dr. Mac 1)1 lowing : 'e that there *"uld like to r the pastors, ndered their lad also sent ilion. They the brethren pid of their own resifpiation, the suggestion in some waj' came I that I would have to resign also. This suggestion (the hint Id not come from me— it must have been cr.tir'-ly imaginary) Don look sha|)e and statement as a facu They ^the Japanese) Wished to know if it would noi be well for tbem to send a Dmmunication to you on the subject. 1 advised aifoir.^t ■Joing J, saying that it would be better to go 'in t|uietly with the Irork and leave the matter with the Hoard for adjustment. ["I send a letter herewith from M.. Kobayashi, District Chairman, showing that the rumors had reached him. There kas been a good deal of talk amongst the Japanese, but I have Beard that they say that they intend to stand by the Hoard, ^ven if it should be tried, I do not think they can be worked tipon to any great extent. "One of the Presbyterian missionaries heard in Yokohama I few days ago, so I have been told, that our men all resigned upon a question of policy that extended into the p.ist. The day before yesterday 1 w.is asked by a missionary it the resig- nation of our men had been dealt with. I said that they had Inot resigned, but had isked to be recalled— that there was a Iditference. He said that there was a dilTerence indeed I also ■asked him where he got his information. He said that the iMcArthurs told him, bui that it was no secret, as It was Igenerally known. As this matter Is so widely known and [talked about, both amongst Japanese and foreigners, all I interests will be subserved by as speedy a settlement as pos- jsible. I have mentioned these things so that you may know I the state of affairs here." Of a similar tenor is the following, dated February 5th, 1895 ; " I find that Mr. McKenzie, early in December, reported to [ the Japanese in the Kanazawa (llstrict that they, the biethren, ■ had ' resigned.' It is known all through our work, and is also I freely talked of by foreigners. The missiini:iiy referred to In my letter, who said there was a dltVerence between a rrsign.ition I and asking to be recalled, said also that ' asking to he recalled might mean a combin.itnm to force the lioar.l.' I'his, 1 think, is the meaniiig of the movement. I do not think (I judge from the course 01 things) that arv one of them expects to be tecalled or to go home." I}r. MatdoHaid': Rtasomjor R years in this field, and 1 conld not thn>'i< of lo.iving it for any triviiil reason. In Mr. Coates' conversation, pre- viously referred to, I saw so much of the spirit which is expressed in a clipping (heiewith enclosed) from one of the i"'.nadtim papers, that I deemed it impossible to go on. I'hini"s, however, may Improve and become workalile. If so, 1 shall be glad to remain.'' ConciusioHS. I have now submitted all t'le information in my posses- sion respecting the rL'iues'. of the missionaries to be recalled, and it Is for tin; Hoard, and ultimately tor the Methodist |)eople, to jud.i;e if their course is jusliru J by the circumstances. It has been made '"'i.ir, I think, that words said to have been uttered by l!ie Secretary In tleneral (Conference wore only the ostensible, no' the red, ground of the request for recall. For statoinents actuaby in,idc by ine I hr.ve no apology to olTer. As a member of the lleneral ("oiiferonce 1 was clearly within my right in replying to assertions whicb,_to put it mildly, 1 knew were incorrect and misleading. Hut I do object to have my wonls inisrepre- ; sctited, and then to have a grievance bised upon that misrepresentation. But even if my words were as repre- sented in the [lapers — supposing I had said, without quali- fiLation, that there should be a change in the personnel of the Mission — that might have been a sufhcient reason why anyone who felt aggrieved should demand explanation or even apology ; but I fail to see in it any justification for a course so well calculated to threw the Mission into con- I'tision, to impede the work, to agitate the whole Church, Slid inflict lasting injury upon the missionary cause. When such results are held to be of less importance than a little personal dignity on the part of the missionaries, it is t'T.e to paus* and ask, " Whither are we drifting ?" [_Comn:itt<>e rose at 5..'i0 p.m. CommitU<> of the Whole resumed at 7.30 p.m., and Dr. Siitlierland roHumcii the reading of his Review aH foUowHJ: IX. DR. MACDONALD. A Pioneer tn the Work. It is well known that Dr. Macdonald was one of our two pioneer missionaries to Japan. In association with Dr. ("whran he went out in 1873 to found a Mission of the v'anadian Methodist Church. At that time missionaries, as such, had no rights in Japan, and it was only by securiiig the friendship of some influential native, and engaging in his service, that they could get permission to reside outside the Traaty ports. Near the end of the first year Dr. Macdonald went to reside in Shizuoka, under an engagement to teach a certain time each day in a native school. For four years be labored in that city, and founded what is to-day the largest and strongest native chtirch In connection with our mission. When he left Shiaioka he had baptized over one hundred and eighteen persons, and the re.sults of his work still abide. In 1878, Dr. Macdonald returned on furlough, chiefly at his own expense, to pursue some postgraduate medical studies, and returned to Japan in the summer of 1879. F'rom that time until now he has remained in Tokyo, with the exception of one year when on his second furlough, and has been both Chairman of the District, as at first formed, subso(|uently Chairman of the Mission Council, and President of the Japan Annual f'onference from its organization till the present time, with the exception of one year, when the chair was occupied by Dr. Cochran. During all that time he has been the official representative of the Hoard in Japan, and the Board of Missions has yet to learn of the first act of negligence in the discharge of his manifold duties. Throughout his whole career he has enjoyed, in a marked degree, the confidence of the native Church in Japan, and of the Board and Executive at home. A Medical Afissionary. As Dr. Macdonald has been frequently referred to in oonn-;clion with the unhappy disputes in the Japan Mission, it is needful here to present the salient points of his official career, showing what has been the character of his rela- tions to the Home Board, to the Jap.m Mission Council, to the native Church, to tl-.e Council of the Woman's Mis- sionary Society, and to the individual missionaries of both societies. It should lie remembered that Dr. Macdonald was appointed as a medical mi.wionary, and that relation has ixever been changed. In fact, his medical training was one of the circumst.i.nces that led to his selection as one of the first missionaries for japan. While stationed in Shizu- oka his practice was among the natives, and this service was rendered gratuitously, and as he was his own dispenser it constituted no sm.ill drain upon bis resources, .\fter settling in Tokyo, not only did his practice among the Jap.mese increase (still gratuitous), but appeals from foreigners began to multiply that were hard to resist. Then the two schools were est.ahllshcd, and he was physi- cian to both of these, as well as to the missionaries of both societies, and all this without remuneration. His practice nntong the Japanese nave bim access to many homes into which an ordinary mission.iry could not have entered ; the fact that he was physician to our two schools gave the Japanese cor.fidence in them, for they said, "The health of S4 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1895. our children will be cared for by that eminent foreign physician ;" while his services to iht; families of i:ur mission- aries, and to the missionaries of the Woman's Society and of the Seif-siipj)ort Hand, saved Iheni many a heavy hill of expenai- and the Society from the necessity of making lirj-e grants for doctors' hills. Moreover, his steadily-growing influence among both foreigners and natives wn^: giving prestige to our mission in a very marked degree, while his earnings from his foreign practice were turned conscien- tiously into .nission work, resulting in the erection of chapels and mission houses that never would have been built without his aid. Hii FetSy and Hmv Disposed of. ITiat Dr. Macdoiiald has always been regarded by us as a medical missionary is evidei.ccd by the fact that the reports of his work have l)een endoised in the most cordial manner alike by the Mission ('ouncil and the Home Board. L'p till the time of iiis second furlough. Dr. Mac- donald took his full share of evangelistic woik. Alter his return the medical side became prominent and has con- tinueil so ever since. 1 subjoin two financial statements showing the extent of the medical work and the manner in which the fet!s were disbursed : " I bi^g to .HP.lnnit to tlu< t7i>muil the fi)li(iwiiig tiimiicm! nt«tt>inenl of niy ututlioal »iirk. Tlu' stAlouieiit covor.s a [HTicul tiuoi* my ivtiirii from fiiru-nuili rxteiitlhig nvi-r two yi'ins niul .en luoiithH, fmlini; .Ini.j ;i<:tli. IH'.tl. PrevioiiH ti> ^oini^' en fiirliHiuh 1 wsui lv»jxa>^iblo fur full oviingvliHtu- worl;. Kiii.iii- ninlly l trittl ti> iiiiiku it )>t-i<, hh I liivw notliiii^' [lor timt \>ur]>|iortiii^ B«iiil luul Miiwioii Schools yen 1.24H W* Bonevolent work for .Inimiicse m '.MO (K) B«novolent work for foreigiiorM ti ntH) U() yen 2,(143 «; (2) Work done for foreigners for wliich r.ish w.m revuivwl. Th« inonuy ho n'Oi'iveil hiw lioc'i cxpfiulcd iik folloWH : Fees nt I'olvc.'inic in New York lUiil itt King's t'ollego," I.0U.I0U yen ;«KMIO MicroBco)w. IHO . Mnnikin, 267 ■f!7 (H> InHiniiiiKnts, :!()i) ; .loiinmlH. 57 1 v!5T '*> Stand iiml w.rk » 141) IH) Anniml ri>iv»nl Mfilic«ISoiencc,.'tyrR •• 57 00 M.Mlicnl SiKuty, 3yni .. ;i(i 00 Atll»^< of Skin Diiwftncs n 40 00 Expoiiw) in doing medical work for thu ntiiwioii II l.'iO 00 .linriki>hn hire, '1 yin. 10 inos i. !HH) 00 Mcdiciiu's. tiO ; oHicu ex|iciiMf», 60. . •■ 1 10 00 yen L',43'.' fH> BuiMing Fmid, Kofii C'lmrcli yen 150 (Ml ■ 1 Kiui'uutwa II 40 00 » Tnukiji II i:t6 IH) M Shi/.uokn 1,(HH) 00 Altonttionii in house No. 4, Tsukiji . . m 50 44 yen l.;!7."> 44 TorHl. including grntiiitoiis work. yen 0,450 i)4 Account* due ,. 300 00 Urand Total yen tl,75(» 04 ■'ThiH totjil of ti,75').".i4 jcM reprcHcntis i\ very modemte Kcalu of charges. Takiu',' I'uneiit r.itcs for profi!s.sioiiiil Ncivices, th-s whole work done would iiggi-ogate lO.OOll yen. " UuH|iectfully Kiibniiltud, IJ. Mai ho.n ai.d." The foregoing statement having been read : "It WRH iiiovod hy Mr. <'a.HMi.lv, iseoonded liy llr. Ehy, «nd r»<»olvud, That wo reccivo Dr. Nt ii'iloiiald's stJili'imnt of his medical practice covering the time fiom the coininincciiient of hia furhiu|{h to the prvsuut, and that we consider his dit<|K»>al of the funds accruing therefroin as highly Halisfactory." A second statement, covering tlie jieriod from June 30th 1891, to June 30lh, iSgi, is here subjoined. "(1) Work done for whioli pay was not r«ceive 13 45 Hooks, 50.10 ; Medical Si«;icty Fees, 13.50 «» BO New .lii.rikisha and Itepairs 30 00 tiftico fnriiituro and rcipiisitcs n 20 87 Annual of Mod. Science and Journals >i 48 38 InstrniiioutN, etc " 41 30 .linrikislia hire " 280 81 llailway fares " tW 14 yon tM9 82 For building of Fukiin'i Church yen HO 00 Buying lot at Omiya and building church " 414 30 lUibunduiglNirsouageat Shizuokanfter lire ... " 306 00 Ituilding Numadr.u i«r8onago " 204 00 Togari ihurch 102 00 .\/jibii iluirch repairs after typhoon. 11 25 00 Aid in building I'.'.higonie church. ... » 60 00 Mr. l)ht.-i. thoo. student, hospital expenses " 13 80 yen 1,256 10 Total, iiicludinfc gratuitous work yen 3,112 02 " Hesiicctfully submitted, (Signed) " D. Macdonald." Hmv th( Board Understood It. As .in indication of the perfect understanding of the Hoard with regard to Dr. Macdonald's medical work, and their estimate of its value, 1 subjoin the following resolution jassed ii, 1882 : "That this Huard is greatly pleased with the report of the ineilical wiirk performed liy Dr. Macdonald, setting forth the income from \\\> medieal practice and the expenditure thereof, l.iricely in support of our uiission work in ,la|uraclilioner, that he does not preach, that he is out of touch with evangelistic work, and therefore is u.-ifit to represent the Hoard on the one hand, or the Mission Council on the other. It would be more correct to say that Dr. Macdonald is a medical missionary, ;nd the work pertaining to that office he has j)erformed faith- fully ai'.d well. To say that he is out of touch with the evangelistic work is to state what ig simply and 40 PKOCEEDINOS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 65 Dlutely untrue. He may have been out of touch with jnary and extravagant schemes, misnamed evangelistic; there is no man in Japan more iieartily in sympathy . touch with true evangehstic woric tii.an Dr. Macdonaid. te compiaini that he does not preach, though mentioned I the letter of the Japan missionaries, is nevertheless larded by them as a minor objection, probably beca ise ey know something of the conditions of mission work in It country which sometimes makes preaching, in the ordi- Iry sense, by a foreign missionary neither practicable nor fcsirable. I mean by this that there are circumstances, at [)es, in which a missionary sees that he can accomplish more good in other ways llian by attempting to preach broken, slipshod Japanese, the chief result of which is to |tcite the ridicule of the people. A missionary may have [jfficient command of Japanese to converse intelligibly, nd by that i.ieans sow the seeds of truth, and by personal hfluence lead an enquirer to the Saviour, who would ^together fail if he attempted to preach in that tongue. may surprise some to learn that few missionaries, com- iiratively, are competent for the latter task ; they must Bther speak through an interpreter, or by means of a manu- cript, carefully prei)ared by the aid of a translator. Hut lie day of speaking through an interpreter in Japan, Kcept on rare occasions, is past, and we may as well ccept the fact that more and more the greater part of the preaching will have to be done by the native and not the jreign missionary. Dr. Macdjnahl realized that his kommand of Japanese was not sufficient for effective Breaching, especially in extempore address, and he wisely lurned his energies into channels where he could do the nost good. IVAy Be Does Not Preach Of/en. The alleged fact that Dr. Macdonaid does not preach bas been emphasized in this country, and has had, perhaps nore than any other circumstance, an unfavorable effect iipon the minds of many- The pro'ninence given lo it by the missionaries is creditable to their astuteness, but not so creditable to their Christian candor. They perceived that the idea of a missionary not preaching MS quickly seized upon by those not conversant with |he condition of affairs in a country like Japan as proof bositive that he was utifit to be a missionary, much less to be at the head of a mission. The returned missionaries knew the facts. They knew the extent and value of Dr. lacdonald's services to the Mission, and it was their mani- liest duty to defend him against misleading and injurious itatements. But instead of this they diligently fostered |he mistake of the public, and have done their best to iiscredit the man who has rendered more and bL'tter ser- vice to the Mission than can be claimed for almost any Other person ; the man, moreover, who in all his corres- pondence with the Mission Rooms has never failed to Speak of these very brethren in the kindest terms, putting ttheir views in the best light, even when he could not agree »ith them, and riever uttering a word to their disadvantage (till it was forced out of him by (juestions which he 3uld not evade. It seems to me it is about time for this iBoard and for the Methodist people to consider whether ihe to absorb one-half of a man's Jime, and this work Dr. Macdonaid has done with a fidelity Ind skill that has again and again won the admir.ition of |he Hoard. (In this point, too, Dr. (!ochrari cai; give Bsitive testimony. Let it be remembered, furthtr, that regards direct mission work, besides nianagenieiu ol Snances, and his duties as physician to our two schools jknd to the mission families. Dr. Macdonaid h is also been, Mr. Hiraiwa has aptly put it, "the pastor of the i^astors." To him they write concerning their perplexities, to him liey come for counsel, for advice, .'or direction. While )r. Cochran w>s yet in Japan he shared this high honor and responsibility, but since his return to this country the task has devolved almost exclusively upon Dr. Macdonaid. And why ? Because for two and twenty years his course in Japan has been such as to command the unbounded confidence of the Japanese. Tht.y have confidence in his judgment, his skill, his kindness, his piety, and to him they instinc- tively turn when s'jch qualities are felt to be indispensable. If you think my statements savor of extravagance, listen to the testimony o," )■ '~rs from independent observers, which I will shortly read ; ask Dr. Cochran and the lady missionaries present whether these thnigs are so ; weigh the testimony of a man like Hishop Newman of the Methodist Episcopal Church, who -vas in Japan a very few years ago, and who said to Dr. Potts during this past summer, " Dr. Macdonaid is without exception the most influential man (foreigner) in Japan today." It was acipiaintance with men like Dr. Macdonaid and Dr. Cochran, with others of like spirit, that led a veteran worker in the Church of England mission to say to a newly arrived mis- sionary, " If you want models of missionary plans and work study the men and the methods of the Canada Methodist Mission." Thiswasthe proudpositionourMissionhadgained, chiefly through the labors and influence of men like Dr. Macdonaid. And yet, this is the man whom it is proposed to dismiss at the bidding of h.alf-a-do/.en young men who came into the Mission but yesterday, and who, for the most part, have their record yet to make for wise administration and successful work ; and several of whom have been, and probably still are, negotiating with the authorities of other churches to enter other missions. If in these remarks I seem to have spoken warmly, I can only crave the indulgence of the Board ; for I find it difficult to repress a feeling of indignation when I think of a man, with a record Kji nearly a quarter of a cen- tury of faithful and eminently successful service, being dis- counted and di.srredited by men who owe much to his friendship, and these men encouraged and sustained by the voices of not a few in the home churches who have never taken the least trouble to inform themselves of the real facts in the case. Who Raised the Issue — An Illegal Act. It should be borne in mind that the issue in regard to the chairmanship of the Mission Council was raised by that body, not by the Board or Executive. The con- stitution of the Council gave them the right to elect a Chairman, subject to the approval of the General Board. Uplothe year 1894, the constitution in that respect wa^ strictly adhered to. I find in connection with repeated re- elections of Dr. Macdonaid that the vote was referred to the Hoard for approval, and was confirmed by the Board as shown oy the records. It is a universal principle in execu- tive bodies that a man continues in office till his successor is appointed, unless there is express provision to the con- trary. Under the former constitution of the Mission Council a new Chairman could not be appointed, nor an old one reappointed, without the confirming act of the General Board. But in 1894 the Mission Council not only elected a new Chairman, but the one so elected immediately assumed the duties of the office, and the Council, instead of referring the matter to the General Board for approval or otherwise, sent instead an elaborate statement of reasons why they had not done so. It does not improve the matter one whit to say that Dr. Macdonaid was a consenting party. When the act was suddenly sprung upon him he did give a tacit consent, but on the very next day he questioned the legality of his own course, and only surrendered the books and funds to the new Chairman when the Council had passed a resolution assuming the entire responsibility. But had it been otherwise— bad Dr. Macdonaid entered no protest, that would not have altered the situation. No kind of consent on his part could make legal that which in itself was illegal. It will be understood that in n'earlyall of these references to the Council I am speaking of that bndy as at present constituted. So long as some of the missionaries of a former day were in the field, the Council as such was loyal to the Board and its policy. While men like Dr. Cochran and Mr. Whittington were members of the Council, unwise and extravagant schemes could be held in check, and Dr. 41 S6 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1895. Macdonald received that loyal support to which in the dis- charge o( his duties as representative of the Hoard he was fairly entitled, liut when these men had retired, and their places were filled by men of widely different views who were out of sympathy with the Uuard and its policy, the spirit of antagonism quickly developed. Composition of the Council tvhtn Dr. Miudonald umi Superseded. It will not be considered out of place if I refer for a moment to the composition of the Council which sought to remove Dr. Macdonald from his office. When the event occurred Dr. Eby and Mr. Ca&.sidy were in this country ; but they were in full sympathy with what was afterwards done by the Council. VVhen the two brethren named had left Japan, the Council consisted practically of six members besides the Chairman. 'I'hese n^embers were Messrs. Crummy, McKcnzie, Dunlop, Elliott, Coates and McArthur. The first five had been connected with Dr. Eby's Self-support movement, the last was sent out by the Board. Mr. Dunlop became a nienrbcr of the Council in 1890, Messrs. McKcnzie and C'rummy in 1891, Mr. Elliott in 1892, arrd Messrs. Coates and McArthur in 1893. In other words, when the vote to su()ersede Dr. Macdonald was taken, one of the brethren had been a member of the Council tor four years, two for three yt.irs, one for two years, and two lor one year. In the very nature of the case one might suppose that scarcely one of these could have had in so short a time any personal grievance against Dr. Macdonald; yet these missionaries, so yourg (or the most |)art in years, in ex- perience, in iinowleuge of the work, underlake to supersede one who in association vMth Dr. Cochran had been from the first the strength and backbone of the Mission, who for more than twenty years had guided its affairs with rare wisdom and discretion, and whose only faults appear to have been that from first to last, through ^ood and evil report, he had loyally upheld the policy of the Hoard and faithfully carried out its instruclions, and that in point of experience, influence and usefulness, he had no superior in any mission in Japan. Upon this point abundant testi- mony will yet be given. Asked to Give up the Medical Work. Before dismissing the subject of Dr. Mncdonald's medi- cal work, it is but right th-'.t he should be heard. But be- fore reading his letters I call attention to two other points. The first is that in 1882-3 he drew only $6oo of his salary from the mission fund, paying the balance out of his medi- cal income. On one occasion the 01 or niuinbcrs (whether as a Council or as individual members I do not know) ob- jected to this arrangement, and urged that lie shotilii draw his entire allowance from the fund. Why they did tliis I am not informed. Perhaps it was for a similar reason to that assigned by one of the brethren who objected to Dr. Macdonald giving so liberally towards the erection of chapels and mission houses, s.iying, " It is giving you loo much influence with the Japanese." In .August, 1893, Dr. Macdonald referred to this matter as follows:— " Laiit year, iki you will porliaps ruincinln'r, I reooived on ■alary from tho iniuion 9*100, thi> IhiIiuiou to \>k jaiil out if jiro- ceeils of iiiudical work. This liiis liecn done, li'itvinj; \\ luiliuico in hand lutlicient to piirclinNe aoiiD! ulictriciil H|>|i!iiuice!i uiid other iiiatruuienta nrvdvd. "The intent >un wa.i to uHk for tin' Rami' amount for this ymr, but »inco Keiiding the eKtimates ciidMiiNtaiKcs Imve .irincn thiit: make it neccasary, in the interenta of tliu iiiiiiiiioii, tliiit my valary be put at 9l,2.~iO, iimtcnd of SliOO, ils atntud in tliu (-sli- inates. I ahall have toaaauniu timt tlii» leijiii'iit will )w);r.iiilud. It ii likely, huwover, that an equivalent will be p&id in from the proceed* of medical work." The "circumstances" alluded to above will be stated in another connection. The other point is, that in June, 1.S93, the Count il, which had hitherto endorsed Dr. Macdonald's medical work, took another line. The minute of Council is as follows : — "A converaation took ]i!acoon Dr. Miiedonnld'n inerliciil work. It waa moved by Dr. Eby, sucoiidcil by .Mr. ('ii«»idy, iiriil resolved, That on account of tlie duniandH imd oponiiiga in " As to Mr. Caasidy'n referi'iieo to my modii'iil work : In reply to this, it niiiy hv well to ^ive in liriufuKt outline my courae since connection with our onlnrging field, thii Coimcil earumlly requoat Dr. Alacdoimld to give n|i the medical and give himaiff to the uvaiigeliHtic work." Seine light may Ik' thrown upon this by the fact that, as there was no evangelistic work lor Dr. Macdonald lo do in the city, each of the centres there being in charge of a native pastor, reentering the evangelistic work meant his removal from Tokyo, lie that as it may. Dr. Macdonald decided, after carefiil C'lnsideration, that he could not give up the work of a medical missionary, as that would seri- ously cripple his usefulness. What Dr. Macdonald Has to Say. Let us now, in sinifile fairness, hear what Dr. Macdonald has to say in legard to his medical work. I will give his letters referring to this matter in chronological order, although there is no special significanct^ in the dates. In a letter dated March 27th, Dr. Macdonald refers to a letter from Mr. Cassidy that was published in the Guardian, as follows : — ' As to Mr. Caasidy's referi'iieo to my modii'iil work : In reply his, it may hi' 1 CHIIU! to .lllp)'!!. " Wliuii 1 I'Hiiiu my poailioii aa a incdicnl niitii wii.s ru('o^lliBed, and tilt! ^tcH'iety pitid for my mi'diciil oiittit ; not n liiruiu sum, it ia true, but Hiittii'ii'ut for tliu time. It fidl to my lot to go into tilt' iiilenor (Sliizuokii) ; I tuuxlil acliool live limira |"'r day, live daya in tlm wiek ; tliv time lliat remaiiiisl was employed in the study (if lliu laii^UH^'c, aeuiiitt the aick and preparing for the Salilialli and the wi'ik-iviiiiiig aervicus. Tlie si coiid year I taukflit four hours per day ; the third year, three hours; the fourth yuar, two hours. I hud no aiisiataiits to lie-in with, except as the Work duvc]o|icd them. In my llfih yt-ar I asked the Koa'd to allow me to go home for the purpose of doing poat-^raiiuate work in mtdlciiie. The itoai'd kindly coiiaented, »llowin<„' mv a-dary to go on, while I waa to pay travelling and all other expeiiaea connected with the enterprise. The work had produced workers, and at the time of my leaviiiK there were several local preachers and exhortera, anil a candidate for the miiiiatry (now one of our aeiiior men) sulhciently advanced to take charge of the worii in my aliaence. During my a ay at home I |>uraui'd my studies in New York and in Toronto (I appreciate highly the )(i'eat kindneas of Dr. Uosebrugh, who gave nie the advantages of lila i'lhce\ so far as my funds would allow. I also did a i^ihkI deal of deputation work. "On my return to .lapaii I was ap|M)intcd chairman of tho district, to reside in Tokyo. Our work then »as all included in one diMtrict ; Tikyo was one circuit. I reKularly made the plan of work and waa careful to ywK inynelf down for a full share, but in pro* e»a of time the city «.i» divided into circuit*, ana aide, ordained .InpaiiiHu piiHlura were put in charge. I also did my full -hare in teaching the class in theology. ".My iilea In ref^an.' to medical work waa to limit it to our own mmaion and the .lapanuau. I held a regular clinic and viaited the people at their homos. One iiitfht a loreinner, not a inishionary, came for me to yo to see hia aick child ; aa it was in the hii^ht I complied. Some time pas-ed and the same man came a^uin. on account of another child. I was ju.Ht ^oiiif^ out to liiee' my class In church hiatory. i<. Another case in our own church coat me 1?1.'H.0(I. There was no money to meet the coat of the medical work except out of my own aalaiy. when it occurred to me, 'Why not charge tho foreij!ners who need myserviies enoui,di to cover the coat of the whole work (' Thia waa done, and waa- continued until l«f7, the fourteenth year of my work In .Japan. " rp lo this time I wiui rea|ioiiall.le for full work, my medical work heiUK extra. To accompliah it meant uncoaslnn effort. I Iwgan with my teacher at .seven o'clock In the inorninK. and it was usually nine or ten o'clock in the evening before my day's work waa done. A» I look back over it now, 1 can acarcoly realize how I (jot through it without bieakin^ down. "In 1H87. the Hoard kindly piimiltid me to yo on furlough. Aa liacterlolo((y had urown Into a acienie, I went to Knit's College, London, for a practical course, I then went to the New 42 ^p^'^t^^^^S^ PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 67 «arn«ally ivu liiiiiiiff ict that, as 111 tu do in lar^u uf a niL'unt his ilacdonald (I not give vould suri- Macdonald II give his \\ order, ics. In a to a letter lardian, as I II reply Diirsu niiice York Piilyolinlc for |Hmt-grnihiiite work in medicine. My idea wuii tr) N|)unii tliia to ahow tlint the iiii'dicnl aide of the work hnd rico^nition from tliu very iieginning. After lliroo nioiitijH lit tliu "..Ijclinii^ I ''.id duputittion work. (In returning III diipiui in iHKH, I wiiB loKl timt n cerliiin member uf our niia- aion hnd cinuliitvd ii reiiort that I wna not to do medical work for liny forci|(nura outHi.le of our miaaion, exceiit that i might lie lent occiuiiiimlly. Thia may have been only a little pluaa- iintry, but 1 concluded to make it the occ atatenitinta : — " ' 1. I'll iiij own mind it In clear that 1 hIiouIiI coiilinuo in.' medical work. If, however, the Council shouKl think that 1 aliould drop medical work entirely, 1 am willing to cunalder the matter. " ° '2. I am not willini{ to liirit my practice to the Japanese and to Ibu nii'inliei'i of our onii miaKion who ini^ht reigueat my mi'ilical KervlcoH, and, at the Hiime time, to be held reaponaible for cvaiiLteliHtic work. " ■;!. 1 am willing, heartily, to do medical work for our own iniHaion, our hcIi oIk, mid for the .lapaticHe, an far ax may be op)iortune or deairable, and for audi foreign rcNiib^ot.H aa may rei|iient my acrviccH, and at the aaiiie time to do all the evan^e- liatic work in my power ; but an no man in thtae diiya can keep abreast with two prnfeHaion.s, my responaibility shall reat chii'tly in the medical department. " ■ riie fees derive I from medical aervicea to foreign residents, after pay lit; expeiinea ami keeping ip the ]irot'eiision, to be paid to the credit of the miaaion funda y jar 'ly year. " ' Flespectfully aubinitted, (Signed) " ' D. Macuonaid. •" Am^iist 27th, 1888.' " I a|>pend the following additional teHliiiioiiy : — " 'It waa moved by Mr. Cassidy, Bccoiidcd by Dr. Cochran, That wi) receive with great pleasure and HaiiAfactioii l)r. Mac- ilonald a report of liia imilical work, and appreciate very highly till' a.HNiKtaiire he lias ifiiilered our work in that way,' °° Kroni the day I eaiiie to .lapaii till now, 1 have worked with the licKt of my ability, to the utmost of my Htreiigtii, and bar- ring human iiiipirfectioniind ahortcoming, I stand by the record that I have made. I wnuld not change it if I could." Why Dr. Miudonald Took Part <' His Stipend from the Mission Fund. The next letter, which hears date of March 2Sth, 1895, deals with another aspect of the question. It was a private letter to iiie, hul the circumstances justify its publication. It reads as follows : " I wiwh to atate the reasons why I took 8 ))art of my salary and nntde up tin- reat by medical work, lather than drawing full salary ami pa) lug in pioceetls of medical work for I ho promo- tion of iiiiKsioii iiilerpri.'-ca. The rea.soim were : " 1. 'I'liat oiitiiiderH might not auppoae that I was drawing full Halai'v, and then supplementing it by medical work. '"i. Chiefly oil account of indications which 1 naw in mem- bent of 0111 iiiia.tion. I hid a desire, of which 1 spoke, however, only by deeds, of putting a i-arKonage wherever there was a paatof, and aiding in the erection of churches where needed, working always Ihioiigli the ch.iirman, but a feeling of ' I- acarcely kiien-wliat ' began to manifest itself, so 1 changed the nietliod, and iiiMe.id of paying in, I ceased in proportion to draw out. That I was right in the supposition ia perfectly clear from a letter afterwarda received from Mr. KUiott, and from the ronvers,ition with Mr. ("oates (referred to in c former letter) who said ; ' I'o you not know that your medical work — the money you are |iaying in is giving you too great inlluence with the , Japanese /' I said that I had ]ierceivehi2uoka church dilhculty, 1 felt that 1 was only asking that tu which I was entitled. "Mr. Ciuuiidy, aa you will see by hia letter relating to the Shi^mukaehurch atTuir, thought 1 did wiaely ; but Mr. EUiuttaaya, ' I waa greatly aurpriaed and pained tu learn that you after- warda aaked for iho full amount.' " Financially I am not nearly ao well off and safe aa if I ,veru drawing full aalary from the Miaaion. Last year, I khuuglit when I wrote to you that medical work would come within about three yen of paying my aalary, but it turned out that the deficiency waa about aevenly. 'Xliis year, owing to absence from Japan, my medical work, after paying expenses, will not yield at the outsid-i more than i'ilh gold, which will make a salary for me thia ) ar of ^75. If I ahouhl be ill, if I should go fur a summer vacatiun, the medical side of my salary Htupa, su you see I am un a mure insecui'e fuoting as to salary than the others. " I am not com|diiiniiig ; I am not in the least dissatisfied. T abide by the arrangement ; but 1 am at a loss, at times, to understand the attitude of sumo of my fellow-workers. I there- fore make this statement of facts. " I*. S. — There ia much work dune that cannot bo tabulated, but fur direct reaults that may be counted 1 am ready to compare my work with that of any one whu is nuw, or haa been, con- nected with the Mission. It haa been more cuniiiniuus. f >d- lowing custuni: the time that I might have spent in summer vacati'ina since 1 have been in Japan, but did nut, wuuld equal two anu a half years." Explanation of Coiincits Action., etc. In a letter dated April i8th, 1895, Dr. Macdonald quotes the resolutions of the Mission Council, passed, respectively, in July, 1891, June, 1892, and June, 1893. In the first, the Council affirms " that we consider the disposal of the funds accruing therefrom (the medical work) as highly satisfac- tory." In the second, they " appreciate very highly the assistance he (Dr. iMacdonald) has rendered to our work in that way." The third is the resolution, requesting Dr. Macdonald to give up the medical and give himself exclusively to the evangelistic work. Dr. Macdonald's letter then proceeds as follows : . '■This needs a few words of explanation. The meeting of the Council was held in the evening of the day that tlie Confer- ence o])ened, .Tune 28tli. Dr. Eby's I'nends had been making an elfort to elect him president — a perfectly proper proceeding. I waa not a candidate for the jiresidency, but I waa elected to the positicm, nevertheless. The (Council met in the evening. After the opening, Dr. Eby said ; ' It seems the Ja|ianeBe wdl have no one for president but you. I think you had bettor give up medical work, and i»o entirely into the evangelistic work ' I regdled that if that were |)ut in the form of a request 1 would carefully consider it ; that if I gave up medical work, I would like to be supported by areaulutiouof the Council, hence the resolution. " 1 gave the most careful consideration, but it seemed to me that I should not make the chaige proposed. I stated my con- clusions, with the reasons, to the meeting of the Council a day or two afterwards. One reason was, that giving up medical work woiilii neeeaaitat* my leaving Tokyo, and that I would be unable to do the work of Treasurer. The Council accepted my statement. There was not oven a gentle inaiatence to the contrary. " In my letter, relating to Shizuoka church debt, to Mr. Casddy, a copy of which is now in your possesaion, I said, referring to the above, ' 1 am glad I diil not give up medical work.' The not giving it up enabled nie to deal promptly with the Shizuoka church debt. "In the conveiiiatiou with Mr. Coates, to which T have referred in (irovious letters, while reproaching me for accepting the Treasurership, even thoui;h the lioaid elected me, he said, 'Do you think the iicople at home, if they knew you had not preached (I do 111 t rcmeniber for how long he said) would tolerate you in this position for a moment V ' As to the position, that in the Conference came from the Conference ; that in the Council came from the brothien till about ten months ago. With us in Tokyo, the foreignera who preach, aa a usual tiling, go to the churches when invited, and when they preach, it is generally in place of the pastor, who is amongst the listeners. "The iioint I am making is this: My not preaching is not leaving places uusupplied. It ia impossibk fur 1110 to do every- 48 58 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1898. thing, but I bulievo I am dniii|{ thn work tlint hnn fiillon to me. The vary night Iwforu I n.uiui hero, I whh onlli'd out nt about II I'oliick to viNit n |ii>Nt of wiml nuy itity I am liy'iig to fultil my M iiHion. A wvek nxo hint .Snhlutlh I >vitK holding the (lunrlorly invoting for one of the unoi'lniin'd |>itsiiirii ; lut Isablwth I Hilled one of the luntora in IiIk i|uiirteijy niuutiug. 'I ft the medical work long ugo, hut it seemed ' > be my work and 1 woa .nipi'lled to go on with it." Dr. MaedifHa/d's First Resixi'ilion. In another connection I have referred Ui ;in onasion on which Dr. Macdonald resigned the chairinanship of the Mission Coun'-il. This wis in February, 1S9J. The liieciale cause of that aclicii was the lourse !;iken bv Mr. C'umray and Dr. l",by in chalLnf;ing the rinht of the Chairman to give any rei'ons to the Hovie Hoaul for voting against a certain proposition, .'t is .lec'ssary now to refer to it again, becaiu „■ »• it 1 h arinp ujoii subsequent action The minu;.^ of tin M..ision <'oiiiitil concerning the matter is as follows . ■, , "A rommunication was raad from the Ohajriii ,n of the Ooun- .j^.-y-* oil, Dr. Macdonalil t>>nderiiig Mk .enigii.a;.)ii an t'lmiriiian, '* l"reiuiur«r and Gi>rros|.oiiding .■>! crotjtiy of the (.' luneil. .\fter • Homo discuHHiim it was moved liy Mr ('rummy, koc fd -d liy Dr. Eby, and unanimously resolvtd. That while it m ly be that there ;ire some pointn on w .ich our eHteeuud Chairni : (Hr. Macdonald; is not exactly •■> hHriiioiiy with (he opinK)i>!< of the majority of the Council, we arc c ert.iii- that there ',h not ilie slightiiMt want of eonlideiicu in him op I ho piirt o) any, nor do we I elieve 'hat the points upmi w'.iieli wu •litter are of such a chanwter as :u reniler Ills witiidiawiil from iiIh present pci'loii eitliiT nucesRury I'r dosiiablo : theref.ire, we moti* earnestly recjuest Ur. Macdonald to withdraw his resignation, and let the matter itond an at )>resuiit." Mr- Cas-sidy a. ' another (.Mr. Cruniniy, I liiink) were appjoUed a deputation to wail at once upon Dr. .MacdoiuiUl with the foregoing resdiition. On the following day the Coun^jl reassembled, and the following inmute records iiieii action. "Mr CoKsidy reported that tlie C the payinont of money only at the order of the Chai'-man does not refer to moneys incliidetl 111 the estii.'iates. " \ ballot being taken, Dr. Mucdonuld wa.s .inaniinously elected Treiumror." Dr. Macdonald declined the .npooiiuinent, and it ' ecaniL clear that the new arraiigement would not work. \ wck later a meeting of ,he !•>: rutive t.x'mniittee of the t'njnrii vas called The following iniiiute '"Cords tlie proceedinii: ; " A commii.'iication was re.iil from Dr. Cochran which ',010 tainud his resignation from th: I'hiiir of tlo' Council, and aii.itlier from Dr. Macdonald deelinin',- to accept the olHce of Treasurer bo which ho was elected by the t'oiiin il in itssesBion of the 3rd and 4th inst. " Moved by Mr. Cassidy, seconded by Mr. Crummy, and utunimously resolved. That the follo\vi:ig resolution be s 11 mi ted to the momlMsr.tof the Council for ue iriesp.m(leiit ■ ..,,« ■ "That wherong the Kiecutivo Con.inittou of this Coiincii has received from Dr. Cochra., his ; ?«ign»'.ioii from the office of Chairman of the Council, to which ho was Appointed by thil Council at tho late session of February >1rd ami 4th init., and also from Dr. Macdonald notice that he declines to accept the position of Treasurer, to which hu was appointed at the afore- said session of the Urd and 4th inst., ami whereas the difhcul- ties which in Dr. Macdonald's opinion made it impossible for him to oeoiipy the chair of the Council for the present, have been adjusted to remove that impossibility, ami that, therefore, he has consented to resume the olticu to which he was ulruted by this CoiiiiiMl in annual seNsion in .luly last ; therefore, " /I'lHcJmf, That the action of tills Council in its Isto session. aeeeptiiig the resignation of Dr. Macdonald, be hereby rescind- eil Willi all actions connected therewith and conseipient there- U|nin ; and, '"i. That Dr. Macdonald be again roipicsted to withilraw said resiiK'iiatioii. Tiiis residiitiou was move4, and the fnllowing e.Mract relates to his election ; "It bieomes my duty for the first time as Chuirman, or Chairman elect, of the .lapan Mission Council to addii'ss you, and in such ca|Hicity to f,irward to you, for the consideration of the H.«nl. till' e!e in order HrHt to explain my warrant for addressing you in this capacity. To do so I shall cite the following miimte from the proceedings (if tho recent annual session of the Council : " After the opening exercises and the reading of the minutes, "The ann'ial elect 1 >,is were proceeded wi:h. The balloting resultrd in the eviction of Klivr Crummy as Chairman and ,1. (J. Duuh p as lixcoriling .Secretary. At ihr rniiifnt of the rrtiriui: (Vimr-Hoii, the Cha'.rman-olect took the chair.' (The italicized inls c liiine. ) " l'l^:vlouli . the nc»l iiieHting, which was held four days h.tur, oil .lune the 'M»i), Dr. Macihmald expressed to me ibiehts ai- to whether I ,■ hail autle.ritj to t' nsfer to the Chairmiu elect the diit-es of the olliiu until a> r the approval of tno It.aril, but t.ial he was .piite willing to do ho, provided the Council ../W'.me.i the respoiivibility of the action. When tiie Co'uicil ne\t met I iiitnsluced thn matter, which > at considered ' t length, and the following resolution adopted : 1'hat asKUin- iii.< that the duties of Chairman of C(mncil begin immediHtely oil his eleciioii to the olfi. ,', we hereby tnke the responsibility of .uth.iiiziiig the letirMix Chairman to hand over tho fu. la. di"'iiu; iits and responsibilitie.i connected with the olbce to the Chairman ele't. " Si ,iie of the cousiderationr which led to this decision wore as lolliiws ; " 1. While it ih :, n-,o whidly unprovided for in the Constitu- tion of the (.'ouncil, the fact that the e'oiMons have always lieei held ai the lirst. •■ in 1 f business of each annual mneling of tlie C. iiiicil has led to the si.'ipivsitioii that the step was neciMKaiy in order to orgnni/.e Assemblies wht.-e such organ- izatiouisiiotesKeiiti.il place ihis ord, r of busiimfs toward tho end if the inceting. The order wlcch has from the first (ditaintnl is that which was followeil i'. y. iir presence immedi- ately after the adoption of the present const ituiiun of the Council. "'J The diRicultiBs connected with transferring the business would be much greater in Ihe middle of tho year. ".'I. As the election of a ('hairiimti .s for one year only, snd election by the Council is tiio first step necessary to his appoint- ment, there L hlHou after til kxpires eitliJ bftioe must yj ■ ( the latteJ ^joard at ai^ _.»aeaiicy in I approved. . I "These rl I action of ihvidel will b.. unall The sec( relating to ,894, an'l " When Cornell (th had uy «' elected. " Befori said to Ml- man ('<.'"' the IVsird. lUUMcd 111" been couiu the chair i III accord v Dented a b affairs ""* to obstruct rcspousibil " After preliared. declined t the res .In '• I saw niy returi put tho c protest, other ren impressit 44 -iM^.^it^ii'ti^.u^.',^ 'ti--'yji,&^iJ mi^^^i^P^- 4i •:^:m PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS-THE SECRETARY'S REVIKW. 60 «I'pninted by thit »>"1 <(fi in«., »nd ")•"<•» to Hocflpt the "I'ltud nt tlie uton. nvrvM tliudifticul. " " impi).,ible for t "B |>ie«uiii. |„4ve I'ii.o<(iii.iu there- *to,| ,,, witb.lrBw ■ 'ly Mr. C«.«i,|y, 'I't >'f tlie votes, " passed by the on was first re- admitting that "I'inions of Dr. «trt- not exactly "1 ihat there is "n th.; ()nrt of .■<"! which we his withdrawal or ilfsiraljle." had been no t f'ouncil is of •ind so irrecon- from office. ty'^ Letter. ■I'l i"n of the 'rs<-'ded in the tfie rnaticr as '''he first is a '«V4, and the ' '''i"irnian, or '•' Hildi-CTH you, uiisiiioratioii iif ■'III tllf Vlllious ■'■ti'in with tho II "ly WMrnint '♦hall cite the •"ivcnt annual ^the minutes, "he balloting liairinan and ■"/"*■»< «/ Me chair' (The 'III four dny» " iiiu doubtg ^ (''lainii';, ^"V.il of tnu rovided the When t;ie ; considered hat asKUin- iiiniwiiiilely »P<'ii»iliilily tl'o fu> .la, 'Ihi-e to the -isiun were ' Consiitu- V" always »l nioeiinK itc;) ivus oh iirKan- ■ward the •he flrat iiiiMiedi- 11 of the husiness 'lily, s'ld ipjioint- nent, there would be this diflioulty if he vonliniiid to hold the bttiuu after the «|i|iointnieiit nf his Hiiix-e<» >r : His term of olHce kxiiires either in July or OctuliiT. If the former, tbun, the pfnce must 1)6 vacant for three iiioiiths after eviTy lu^w I'lciiion. |( the latter lie the cam', tlit'ii in rase of the refusal <>f the nrd *t any time to approve the elii'tion, Ibrie iiiiihI lie a vaeancy in tiie ottice until a new election can be made and (upproved. "I'hese reasons were coiisideiod autlicient to d' teniiine the lactioii of the Council, enpeclally in the face of the act that no ■ risk wiu involved, and that if our action in this Hi.st instance I in which we have been called upon to deal with a matter of the I kind did not meet the mind of the Board, instruiaions could be given to direct all sulmeipient casea of the kind. 1 iiiiiy Hiiy, however, that the Ouutioil, in comiiiK to the decision they did, sought to deal only with the abstract principle ax to what waa ri|[(ht in the case, and bad no ilcHire whatever lo baslcii acbiin){e of nianu)(ument. .Ah to Or. Macdonald and myself, he waa gind enough lo escape a week or more of hard work in the int4>nse heat of iiiid-aiiiiimer. while I was cipially reluctant to add to that extent to my year's work, which hail already eximuHted my strength more than I could deiiii j. I hope that in tieeking to deal with this matter which our Oonatitiilioii has not provided for, the ('ouiicil has done nothing that the Koard will bi> unable to approve.'' Dr. Macdonald's Explanation. The second quotation is from a letter of Dr. Macdonald, relating lo the .same subject. It is dated l)t;cemlier 20th, 1894, and reads as follows : " When Mr. ('ruiumy was elected Chairman of the Miaiion Coincil (the meeting w.iHfur organization) 1 «eem not to have had ii'v wits about me, and aaid to him to proceed aa be was elected. " Before the next meeting fa day or two afler the former), I said to Mr. Crummy, ' Vou are chairman-elect, but not chair- iiuin (Ir I'ltilii. until your eleitlon .shall have been continued by the hoard. lie abtted iiiv objection to the next meeting, and argued that he bad a riglii lo lliu cbiir at oiieu ; th t be hid been connected nitli iiihtitiiliiiiix wlieri^ the chairman asHimied the chair iiuiiieilialely on being elected, vtv.. All Mcemcd to be in accord with hiH putting of the case. 1 repluil (hat if I repiu- eeiited a biiNineHi boii.se I hIioiiIiI nut think of bandiiit; over alfairs until leleu'^eil by my pniicijiiils, but an I did not desire to obstruct their winben, if they panaed a resolution taking the rcH|ionHibilily of the act. 1 woidd hand everything over. "After a good deal of ad litioiinl talk, the resolution was prepared. M.' Ciiiniaiy asked me to put it to the meeting. 1 declilli.'d to do an, aa I rcganlcd it illegal, lie then ^ubmltted the res iliition. '■ 1 saw .:'H letter at the Mission Rooiiin iv the subject. On my return I told Mr. Crummy I was aiirprised at the way be ]iut the case. He acknowledged that he toi.icdonald. This was the first time that any objection to Dr. Macdonald on the part of the Council had ever been communicated to the Mi.ssion Hoard or Executive. 'The whole letter in given on payes 45 47. The part now referred to is repeated for the sake of clearness :) "1. Wo re.'arded Dr. Macdonald as imicb luoro a iredical practitioner than a uiiHsionaiy. Nor do we think it merely a matt \x of opinion. Plio annual reports Bubmittcd by Dr. Mae lonald to the Council show that liia medical practice is in't incoosider».ble. Kealizing this, the Council had for some time desired Dr. Madonald to give up iiicdic.d work and devote liiiiiseif e.stlusively to llni work of the (.'Inneb. At iliHcrent times he had intimated to us that if we really believed be ought to do this bo would at our reipiest d^i ho. "A year ago last June we, as a Council, unanimnusly passed the following reHolutioii : "I'hat on account of the demands and openings in conne':tiou with our enlarging Held, this Council earnestly reipiest Dr. Macdonald to give up the medical and give himself to the evangelistic work.' After ccmsidoring the matter be ansiiered that be could not comply. Wo believe that in order lo the right uiidorstjinding of the work be should at least cue it. Itut since bis return to .lapan between six and seven \ cars ago, be has done no regular Church work. Ho never preaches either ii" Ko'^lish or i'. Japanese. Ho seldom sees the work of the Chui.'i, even in Tokyo. Even that work wiiose expansion he has specially opposed the Central Titbernacle — be has not so much as seen personally more than fo,ir or tive times uincii its inauguration mcr four years ago, As to the other four dislricts, two he has scarcely seen iheHe last eight years, and tw < he has never seen at all. Let ibis be compared with the HcerutJiry's definition of a missionary's duties, as given In tieneral Conference: 'The Hoard had never laid any re- npi iisibility on the missionaries except the lesponsibdity uf attending to the work of preaching the liospelanl of getting as many heathens converted as poBsiblc' - (tnnri/iiui, October :iid. With the exception of purely ollicial duties Dr. Mao- donald's work partakes n > more of the character of a mission- ary's than that of any ordinary medical luactilioner We believe that he is to such an extent 1 lit oil' from the work of the Church that he is without that pnietiial sympathy which one in his position ought to have. This was one reason why we felt that we could not conscicntiousiy re-elect him to the chaii of the Council. "li. The second reason was that we diiTercd vry materially from bini as to the functions of the Chairmsn in bis ottice of (Jorrospouding Secretary. \S e coiiHidercd ibi' incumbent of lhat otHcu to be the 'executive,' ni t only 'of the wishes of the Hoard,' but also 'of the decisions of the Council,' as it was expressed by our ooiislitiition. He seemed to regard himself as holding i-nme external relation as s|iici,'d representative of the Hoard, which at times inade it practically impossible for him to perfurin the second of the two classes of duties men- tionud above. It is true that Dr. Sullierland stated in (ileneral Coiifeience that Dr. Maedonald had been faithful to the Council, but it is ditliciilt to see bow bu can be positive that reports iiroperly represent facts, when bis sole knowledge of those facts is obtained through the said reports. A case in point was that wl ich was cited by the Secretary in (Jcneral Con- ference, but in which he was wholly mistaken as to the facts. We never 'challenged his right to nive the Hoard any other information than the result of the discussions.' What we did take exception to was his iiiethiHl of doing so when, as in that case, it tended very materially to misrepiesent the action of the Council. He sal in the chair and permitted us to pass a resolution embodying ilie words, 'We unaniiiiously and ciirnestly request. ' and in trai smittiiig it reported himself as opposed to it, giving bis rcaiioiis, not as if he bad changed his mind, but as if that had been his opiniuu from the beginning. The Hiard or the Committee might naturally suppose that bo had expressed those opinions in the Council, and that we bad had the privilege uf answering them or of ado]iting them - to say nothing of the absurdity of our formula, ' unanimously and earnestly,' under such circumstances -when, as a 1; titer of fact, they first uinie before the Council some time after it had taken action. " We regarded this dilfercnco of opinion as so vital that it became our duly to elect to the position one whom wo know could lietter rejiresent the whole t'onncil. " .'t. The third reason why we did wx elect Dr Macdon'^ld to tl.e chair was his conduct In regard to the 'oka church debt, and especially his treatment of Mr y in that con- nection. His action was such as to reliec . (;,'jy on Mr. Cassidy's character. We considered his i.ictliod of dealing with the case most excoiitlonable, and all the more so as Mr. Cassidy was abseiit at the time and could not answer for him- self. We do not know to what extent the attention of the Board has be en called to this case, but we have no doubt that an arbitration of, say, Ihnr crjuirirnml mianionnyli:/ who are acipiaiiited with the exigencies of mission work in the interior would find that Mr Cassidy's administration of the Shizuoka church affairs was, to say the least, not derogatory to his good name. At all events we ilid not think it well to elect to this post one who had not been more careful of an absent brother missionary's reputation. " 4. The fourth reason which we may name, and one which is perhaps the mist serious of all, underlying and aggravating all the others as it lias done, was the attitude of Dr. .^lacdonald to the difi'erences which have for some time existed between our Mission and the bead of the Council of the W. M. S. These differences, for which neither Dr. Kby, Mr. ('assidy, nor any of the rest of us is in any way rcsiionsible, have had their origin almost entirely in petty jealousies, and have grown and wrought mischief through pettier gossip. On this account we have hitherto said as little about them as pi.ssibl(, but they have, nevertheless, insinuated themselves into almost every department of our work. .As, however, this is in the very nature of the case a painful subject to sjici^k of, we may be excused from saying anything further than that both with regard tii the cause and nature, as well as to the euro, of these iinl; ippv and unnecessary ditl'erenccs. Dr. Macdonald has radi- cally differed fiom every other member of the Council ; though in this respect wo believe we '\ave been in substantial agree- .neiit with the Board. " Without, then, going into further details, we think it will be seen not only that wo were not without reasons for pur- suing the course that we did. but that if the election of a Chair- 45 60 QENSRAL HOARD OF MISSIONS. 1898. ninn, %» wait m th« ntlmr ilutiM of iIm Oixincll, iinixnitxl liy tli0 oiiiiitituticii, uiit'tili"! ii|ii mtti lii« ntlK'u 1 1 itilvimi, ill (MiiiiiuciImii with iiuitrly uvory vil:tl jiaiiil iif iiijuix i polioy, ■null iiieiiaiir»« u* wk l)oliuv«it |iriijiiiutivu pMiu- outiuii of thu wiirk of tin- t'liuroli in tliit (Miiiilry," Dr. AfitcJomtid't Rffih. The Kxecutivc Comniiitef fi-lt that it would hi- unjml to deal with so grave a in itlcr witlDiit allowiiig iho .nxiited to l)c heard. The Si-cr-tary was imtrmlcd, tlicroloro, to forward a copy of the letter of the missionarie.s to Dr. Mai- donald. and await his reply, riiis wan ddne, and the follow ing letter, dated May 28, 181)5, "">" received in due eoiirxe ; "Drvh Doi-roH, Your lutlm- nf Muy (Ifli .•.iini' to liitixl ye.Htonlay Tliiink you fur your kinliUMJt in noinliiin urn n copy of tho oouiinunii'iitioii of tlu' lirutliron. I hii Ur. MnoiloiiMd fiilluil rt< «!i><'tioi) : ' It ia not true, itH uHsi-rtuil by Dr. M«uilonnlil. thnt tir- rniiiTiiitclu Hnitn 'tii'iioif tho troiililuH in .Inpaii ' " Eipmlly inooiroot is tlieir ntJiunnont • Wi.{anl timsv HtAtviiiiMita of liiii (piiiti uniiiKlillalilo, aim-t' lioforti rfturnin^ to .lapaii, hu wat iiifonuml of nthur rtMKiiinH for \\\» noii niootion.' I novtir rewiived muoIi infonnii lion. Tho Infonii'ition I ro.fivoil w.n ({iven vohiiitjirily to ini>, Imforc I loft for t.'aiiaila, l>y oiiti of thii iii>iiiil«>r.H of tlii> i 'oiinoil. It wan thi. : ' 1 wat norry ;o vcito a.fainHl you, liul your alMiU(lt> to the ev in;{olmtiit work,' (I inttirpm.iil, ' You iimaii tlm Talptir- nitolu,') 'anil ti the Wntiiaiia MisHioiiaiy Soiiuly, inaiKi il iiooo.'uiary. Moreover, wo wanted lo pii oiirownsiiliMif tho nmi.' I iiiiver olijeoteil in tho lowt to tlioir viilinu aKaiiiHt, mo. Thvy niijjlit, liavf dime so years tiefore if it had lioon tlioir plontiiro. " I iioud not now refer to tlioir oiplnnati.iii of thnir iiu'tliiKl of taking ovoi thi' allJiirH of the Miasioii, as I i^are you tin' farts in regard to lint luttler in my letter of noooMilur IjOtli. IHDI. "The Ktjituiiieiit made l>y Mr. Odium, to wliloli the iiivlhrcn refer, 'That Dr. .Maolondd's nonolei'tion to tho oliiir of the CoinioU croatoil suuli profouml foeliii^ iii .laiiaii that, uilh the mo.st positive and intoiiso delorminaliiui, he was roeleitod Pnwidoiit of the tyonfoienco,' is a misiako. Whi'ie Mr. Dilluiii got his Information I oaniint say, perliaiui from .Mi. .Stloli. It ia lik*}ly confoundeit with another i|uesliiiii. The lui'lhron say that 'There was scnue encilouieiit at the eleetiim of ie|irc'si'nta- lives.' It arcne in this way ■ One iiiarato Mrs. Large fnitii tho ladies of the t'ouiiciluf the \V,NI.,'> That they are ami were one can ho easily asoertameil liy lakiiii; tho testiinoiiy of aiiyoiioof the several ladies of the \V,Sl,S, .Missi.in now at homo. My Attitude to thai cioestiou is well known I have (udy to B.iy i -iw, as I have said liefnre, Hial I am thankful that I toiik no part with the (Jouncil in tli:il crusade. " 'riie third roascui was his eomluci in r.njard lo I he .Shjzu oka church debt.' My c imluct was fair and liniMiralile. I'lio dilHcuIfcy was ereateil by the parlisan conduct nf iliu brethren, Tho matter never would have been roferiv.l to ynu oiilv for that. I was nlso willing to submit the in ill. i i.i three business inon here, to be chosen in the usual way. I was tnld that husinesH men iui;4lit take a dillereiit view fruin missionaries. The ti nely iutorposilion, I bjlieve, saved that church fr.im dis. rupti oil. If money had ii.it boon provided from aoiiie source, the church would have stojd unliiiishod and uuucicupiud to thia day. I'urlmpi I hara mid anniigh on thii itiilijoot, hi you h»v« the papar* and lotturs bearing upon the ipivalion. "■ V aecon I rmtson wa< that wo dilt'erod very maturmlly froifi l,iin ita to tho functions of tho I 'hairman in his olMc.i of Uorn- apoiiiliiiK .Soeretiiry, etc' "I have boon |/oin|{ over the reoiril, iiioluliuK the ininutM III the Council and iiiy letters relatiiiK to tho business tranaaotoil. 1 appeal with contideiico to ilie rec .nl ti ostabliali the fact of my tidolity to the I'ouncll. In some ctaes, where you have asked mil for an expreaaion of opinion oil cert tin matteri, liny- thiui( that I said In reply was iHoial and aimply an opiiiioii, " I'lie case winch the brethren ipiite against mo la oliiar en.iii^h. There waa no unfairness. In my lotterof Septeinlwr ITlh, IHll-', I place.l the mailer Iwfore you. This letter WM wriiteii after the uieetiiiKof the t'oiiucil of .September IHIi, \HWi. In the Ural suiitunco of the letter I refer to actio. i that Imd been taken by tho Oouiicil at Its annual meeting. In my letter of .luly 'J5lh. I K"ve thai aciion in full, a* conlained in tho report of a ComiuitlJie on Tabernacle Mattera. I gave the report aa adopted Thai re|Nirt has ronno you In my letter of , I Illy a.->th, IHiCi. " In my letter of Hepteinlier lilh will be found the requeal of the Council to tho W.M.S. Kindly nhscrve that tho wnrd ' iiiiaiiiinoiis IS used in lint ropiest. I was i|uito doain m that the lailiea' sliiiuld do the beat they could for the Taliernacle. The reipiest of the (Jouncil was duly conveyed in writiii)r. 1 hen to send, marked A, a copy nf I he cnuimunicalinii addreuod til Mrs. Larx', Her reply, ahownin th • anion of the W, M.S., also came in wriiinn. A ineetiiig of the Kxooiilive Committee of the Council was called to consider the reply. Dr. Kby aaid t!ial I! was not saliafacloiy. I en plained to I lie btellireii my poai- tioii in re^aril to that resolution, and asked that the 'yeas' and ' nays ' Iw sent so as to show tho position of the Council. This nits aaseiiteil lo, and the assent, in my opiniuii, atoned for any irronularity. " You may atk why I diil not state my views in the first instance It w.ts not th it I lacked the couratro of my opinions, but bi'cause I fell hopeful (hat llie response of the ladies would be deeiiied satisfactory, and it would not Ihereforo ho necos.aary to send the .resolution. I had been unable so miiiy tiMiea, to fall in with l)r, Kby'a plans, thai I really felt a dislike tu announce before hand an tip;x>sition tliat I deemed likely would not be reipiireil. "There Is mie tiling for which I must apolmjizo, I was very much pained to notice thai iii tpinsinillin'.{ ihe resoluiioii I had made a mistake in copyini,', .slid instead of sayini;. 'Therefore, we unanimously and earnestly request,' I unwitlin'.(ly put it, 'Tlieiel'ore we earnestly reipiest." I discovered this awkward mistake while making compirisons with a view to this statement. " .\sMeiit havinii; Iwun ^iveii, I appended the yeas and nays, ami iiiaile the following remarks: 't caiinoi briii); iiiysulf to vote for this new departure while the W.M.i'S. maintain in thn tiehl such a coiiipetont and willing force. In my opinion, they ull'er to provide well for the work. My second objection is a tintinial one. I'lease oliaerve that 1 aUiiie voted "nay." I do not wish to iirxe my views, only to state them.' Hee my letter of .September I'th, 1H!)'2. " My riLtlil to make any such rem irks waa challennod. In my letter to you, dated I'V'bruary 'SA, IHIK), there is a reference In the inatter thus : ' When tho roi|uest of the ('ouiicil, niidor date ."eptomher I7lli, ISli'i, for the appninliiient nf a lady niis- sioiiary to the Tabernacle, was sent to you, I stated in a brief remark or twnthor.'aa.iii why I could not aupp.irt the new ilepar- tiire. My acti'Hi has been challenj{eil by the ('.luncil. It was foil thai I oxceislcl my duty in nivim; such an oxpresaion of opinion. Theoretically this may bo true. The mi inrity must submit to the majority, an.l I suppose thai tho Corre- spoil liii){ Se iretary has d.ino his full iluty when he has trans- mitted the ininsactious nf tho ('.uiiicil. This beiiiy so, I am ipiite satislied I have no wish to put forward my personal views. 1, leuvecer, ciuM not c uitiiiu ■ to occupy Ihe post of cliairin.in and correspoudini- Hecrotary of the Council without a clear iinderatandino. This stjiteiueiit is made with the kiiuw- ledRi! and consent of the Council,' "Yiiir rojily to this diaplciseil tho Council. I'liploasant thiiifji have been aiid to iiie ab nit il twittim(ly. There has been lalk of tr.iversin,' that letter of yours. The attempt was made t.i dn this in the Ijeiieral (Joufeionce by Mr. C.tssiily. You will, perhaps, roineiuber thai in the cniirso nf his siieaoh he road a portion of tho letter. Their proi|ii'Ht now wlint I muil IIr'U IVi- init uiii III mil tliiit lutliir to your ri'liitiK witliiiiit H) tim luniit iivur tnxiiiH Kiiy of tlii'iii. 'I'lm Work tlial I hnvii iloiiii for llm fordiKiicr hita ' otliir niilti. It Woulil huvti huuii too miuuiar if tim laiiHl or thu l hail liouiul up thu pour Mian's wouiiiIh and lii>lpuil liiiti hnuk In lifti. " Hut takr thu work Ihal lam iloiiiK that i> not for foruiKHi'm, ■ay iliiriiiK tlm laHt Ihri-ti ilayn. an a aaiiipli', hicamiii it ia fri'iili ill my iiii'iriory : Suiiilay, tho 'Jllth, I went to ai'ii a aii;k rhilil (I Kill ill iIiIh atali'iiiunt rufurriiiK lo .Inpaiiuiiu only) in thu iiiorn- ill|i{. I tlmn wiml to ShitaMi ami Imlil a haptiHinal Hi'rvii'n ami iiiluiiiiialuriMl ihi'Sai'iaiiii'iit of tin. Loriln SuppiT. Afti^r Ihu ai'r- vicu I Haw ami primcrihi'il for tin tlm piiator arooiiiHJfnurpatioiilii ; thruo hail uyr tioiililu, and iiiii- waa HUilnriiiK from fuiiotioiial dia- orilur of thx Imarl. In Ihu uvi-iiini( I went to viait tliu aick child nguin. .Monday, '.'Till, I naiv lliiiju .lapaiiuMuiit, my lioiiHr ; prr- (Mtioil covur «lassi'M, and maili' a iiiirioHoopiial uxamiiiation of till) Hpula of a patii^iit, who had HviiiploniN of coiiHuiuption, In iluturmimi if liir haoilli of IiiIkii iiloiii wrrr prcni'iil ; viiitinl tilt) nick rhild twill'. Tiirmlay, "JHlh, went out to thi' dirla' Hchool al Azaliii and prrsuiiliid for thruo of tlii' HtiidinlH. Thuy liavii liiiil thu iiillmiiui in tliu niIiooI, and I liavu licun out tlniiM ui^ht limuK hiluly, <.MrnKur to viMit a poor family Oilmut two and a half miUh away) on aeiounl of thr Nuvuiv illii 'hh of thu son. I also iiihiIu an ophlhaliiioHoopic uxnmiiiation i>' tlm uyi'H of a patiiiit onu of our puoplc. \'iMitud the sirk child oiiuu. Next Sahl.atli I havii a Ipaplisiiial surviii'. Holhi'work goes; HomihmuH I liiuf iiioru, Homiilimi'H hus. This \n all (jratiiitoUH. Tim slatuimiit tliiit I 'si'Moiii huu the work of thu chiiruli I'Vuii ill Tokyo,' is a misiaku. 1 imvur opposud thu oxpansion of thu Taliurnaulu, only thu uxorhitant domands 1 could not support . " As to thu Htatumi'iit thai I liavu iiiivor Hoon two of llm diHtriuts, thu Na«aiio and Ihu Kanawa/.a, is truu. \ nuvur liavo »ny Hpaio tiiiiu to (jo whuiu I am not luuduil. Tliuru wuru four fdi'eiKii inissioiiarius Htatioiud within thu tiiritory n furrud to ; now tliuru aru tliruu. If, in addition to tliuir statumunt, 'two hu has nuvur Huuli at all. thuy had said, 'liut uaiidor loii.pulH us to statu that hu has inner failud to aid iis in phiiis for thu fiirthiiaiu'u iif thu work.' it would havu nioiu iiuarly uxprussud thu facts. A-' lo iho otliur distriuls I am in iu; to ask for n Miipuraiiiiuated rulation next I'oiiferencu y r coidil then remain liorc, conneetod with tho Church hut not with the I'oiineil, «s an unsalaried worker for Niiuli a time as I could remain in .lapan. I wi.iild not wish to draw from llm Superanmiited Fund while 1 coiiUl stay here, for if my mudiual work would pay house runt and exjiuiisuH of tlio work niid six or sovon liiiiidrcd yen huHido', I would ho con- tuiit. Ill tliiM Hay I could do koihI work in :'m ('liiirrh, nnil thin driimiful slntii of alhiirM wimld he relmviid. I'.S. Hiiice ln)|{ililiiiiK thin letter, I haw lieun ea.! ui out lo Mr. ('rumiiiy'N on n mediial vinit. I have done a Kood deal of wmk for lliem thin year, and hint ajiring Mm. (I'limiiiy had lyplioiit fever. I attended thu ciinii faithfully, Willie ' even cliar)(inK jinrikinlia hire. I ciiild i> waa vury friendly, nml only 'hut I liiid luat lucuivud from you tli* loiter of the hrelhiun, I could not liavu helieved Ihnt hu hwl only ail rucuntly joiiiud in such an imiHiachment of mu. I lotlKvil to challeliKu lillii alxiiit thu ntalements that had Ihivii made, hut I did not fuel free to tell him that thuir letter httil huen nuiit to me, ami moreover, if ever thin tmuhlu is to end some one iiuiat keep ipiiet. "I have incurred iiKruat dual of ill will on acuoiint of the vexed ipiifli'in of thu travullinu uxpennih of Mesnis. McKunr.io and ('rummy to .lapan. After the claim hid huun rejueted, I think the necoi, I lime. I ventured Ihu remark that noiuething could he naiil on the Ilea id a side, I waa told that if I held aiicIi an oiiinioii I uoiild no lon'^er he trun'ed to put the cane. I>ant (/ouneil iiieutiiu,' Mr. McKen/iu was ah.mive ahout the mutter of the claim ; al leiiat 1 t' oUL;hl n>i, lull (lerhapa I wan auusltive. I havu looked over thu rucord all iliat I had writtun to you mi thu Niihjuct I wan faithful in presenting that claim. " Indtfitndtnt Tesliinonies — Leittr of Mr. Saloh. It now only ri'iii.iins that I present some unsoticited tcslitniinics from irnUiieiKlent sourres, .and then the rase as relates to Dr. Macilonalil will Im i()ni|)lete. 'I'he first is from a letter of Mr. Henry Satoh, who was a lay delegate from Japan to the last (leneral Conference, dated August 8th, 1 S(j4 ■• '• JlKsi'KcTKii AMI DkabSiu,— Undor tho dato of July Kith, Dr. Maodonald inforiua iiiu that I havo hecn uluctod a lay deluKntu to thu (ieiiural Colifiuuncu. I'nder the name date Kev. .Mr. Takeila, thu pastor ot the Tsiikiji church, to which I Ixloiig, wrote me an exhaustive account of the state of things in ' ipnii, concuriiiiiK thu tendencies, ulc, now prevailiiK aiiioi our brethren llieie, both fori i«n and native. .Amoiif,' them I iiiiuht reproduce a few to which I lli.iik will be worth while to solicit yoiir consideration. " I. There aru eluments at work that want to prove that Dr. Maeiloiiald ia not in touch with thu uvani^ulical ruipiirenienta of the presuni .lapan, and the Hamu elements tried their best to prevent his couiiuy out to Canada. Ae lAi/noicic ht-fllweit hflniiff til tlirm. Thuy aru conaiduruil tube duu to l>r. Kby'a inHiumcu. .lapaiKse hruthruii are iinaiiiiiioiia in looking upim I)i. Mac doiiiilil an Ihu / alilu man to take cliar^u of tliu missionary Work in dapan. No other liaiid could iiiaiiai;u lhi.4 ruspoimilile biisine.'-a but his To provu Ihu contidulice and respect Dr. Manlonald eoiuiiiaiids, .Mr. Takeda cites thu way in which the Doitoi was reelected to the I'residency of the ('oiifureiice. To ruiiiove him, or to niaku some change in his position, will materially iilleci the work in .lapan. •' Voiiii),' missionaries do not coniiiiand much conlidence, and tho naiivu hiulliron aru united in believiiio that the work of cv,iiii,'"ll»ilion in .lapan reipiircs nonu but experienced uiid scholarly men." Letter fiiim /o/'niit'se Miiiistiiart sijjiied by tliiity five Japanese, among whom I recoj^ni/od the names of many well known milli^ters and laymen. As it expresses a view ot" t' e situation from the Japanese side, 1 give the dociimenl entire. The forms of expression show that it was written hy a Japanese and not hy a foi'-igner. "Tokyo, Jith, 2r>th, 18!t4. '' I)f..»k ^'iii. "We, iinih r»i!»nuil, bey loavu to express our siii- coru thanks for your kind usistanco that has led and enabled us to usiablinli our Melhoilisi <'liiirch in .lapan, and particularly for that you havu been vury careful to send us yiHul and able ^untlumen as your rupresenlativus, to whose wise ^tiidanco and ji..iicious advice wo owe very miicli for the foniiatioii of our jiresent church. "Our Xihon IMethodist riiurcli. tliou},'li not grown iia stnuiif as we wished, is ranked among the well-known and beat-organ- ized churches in our Kmpiro. We can say with pride that our Church is not the least of them. That our Church is enjoying this honor, ia not because we haveanperii i number of churches, nieinberships or ministui's, but bucaiise we have comparatively larger number of \ciy good iiien in Ixith our ministers and niembers. Had we to speak only from tho point of quantity. 47 i,|f i i ^ ) ;m» ii t;,, t - i-t jM'k n■ l ^)^^>^^ 'iM i t .,0 , ,»t^ » w nywfff>l » i'» . ■■ 02 PR(K!EE1)IN(18 HH JAPAN AFFAIRS. «« miiM My thnl w« itr» tlix Iwitit nf m o«llei>i'('ii iif Ihx liiiiiiliur «l (Ikmii iiiiiiit' tan wliM I'lvii ih» iitli' II \., M A , <>r l>. I>. All y yMir ri<|irir MiliUtivva tl our i'liyn Kwn (i.ikki, m »t lliiiii <>»ii |iiiviitti hiiut «, lltil Willi lliiK MX'iniiiKly |Kit|i.ii:lty of iiiinmtiir- ■hip )• oiiiirtTiiKil. 'I'licy cnn uivu jiiit im u I •uniiMii* itiiil laotiire* hr iIi'wii litU'il iiiiiUTitl, «r« «oiii|>«ri»livoly Imltiir attonduil. mill i>\ir inontlily loiitt-ilitilioiia arn not infxnor in ■ny aunai' to oilivra. itooil uml luHivu n> lliuy itro, our iiiun itro not iwiiy oiit'M to Im I'onlriilU'il ovn-, ao timt tlniy iimy woik tiigutliur 111 koimI union. Slmx llm opiiiiiiiK of IJit'l,, |ioliilciil iiluAa hitvii lii'xn very niiicli iiroiia«il. aihI Kiviin( Ixith |{ooi| ami hiul i>trl party apint lint lionii i-rtipl. into i>vt'rytliinu A iliaamiai in la vory liitlilc lo t'oiiiii Initli iiiiimii^ tlm niriiilxTa of all the orKiiir ir.v'ht>a .mil lo havr llio lai'xiiil number of alilu mun in lii>r niiniKtHrml atalf, liaa t(ivliii(lu) virMiniia man to ^nidti her. " But wu .iro very thankful to any wii hnvo no auci iin iin- pleaaitiil thin^' an » iliiaciiaion or ipiarri'l in onr rhiirih, nml arii iirinly niiiti'il umli-r thu wiaii ^iiiiLiniu hikI iirlnona inlliitinru nf Dr .MihHioiialil. ilml wu not hiiii, wiicun't lull if wo iniulit (iii|oy tllo iJiiiiu poai'tifiil atittii of lhiii)(i ua wi< liiivo liuuii. »'u apprv ciat« ami trust huii iiliovc all tlm hivlhrxn : wu liWx, Invx ami raa|Hn't him ao iiiinh lliiil wx iiuvxr iliatiiiKuiali him from Ja|iHii«a<<, and that wo i:nll him thu 'Tiiiikiji no (>yaji,'(onr father who livca at Taukiii), mid arc alnioMt dccidi'd to cUxt him Proaidi'iit of our (^oiiliruncx iia l(Uii{ la Im will atay Ikto. " Ah hu ia HO iiii|iortaiit a man on thu wulfaru of our I'liunli work huru, pinii-uiiirly al tliia iritieal mohii'iil, wu hiTcl'y lii'H leave to convoy you tliu atioii^oat wiali of our ohiiroh that ,>Hiit'Hanl. and tliiia to oliatrui't thu way of Dr. Ma'iloiiald being ulo tisl. th« .lapunosi- iiminlM>m hu aiiio instaiilly ho indignant .i<(iiiist him ax lo oxpioss it in so many Honl> on tlu! spot, and iho Doolor was ilortoil with a grout ohoor. (if) 'I'liit ho waa c'li^ctod this yoar again iinnnimously as far as Iho .la|iaiiuse niumlieis woro ooinurii'd. llioii;iun tiniihlu in soinu nspoci siiiou tho laat fall. Tlioir <:'>'i idun e in him has novor Iioimi slml .lap in in IHHS, but ho is not a phyHi<:iaii puro :ind Hiniplo ; ho is a ini'dioil missionary in a nohlo sunsi< ; hu is piojiohing Cliiistiaiiity in works which ovorylMidy who comics in coirat-t rojo^ni/os, tlioiii^h not in so many words. Ho gives vory kind modiwil liulps In thu dap inusu |K)or frooly at any timo. dapanosu proachora ami lay nionibora of oiira are hv' -ud frooly wlioiiosor they are in nood. Ho doos not tulk about tiioHO hulpa to tho rocipiontH or to olhura ; ho will aiinply lei thoiii 1(0 as Ihoy oouio ; h» ortiiil faJl >r in llm uvangoliiiio work hnru ; hu ia aw.iy thoir iiiiioli nuiido I and tinioly inn luat hol|K>r, whothar they are iii Tokyo or in dialaiuMi. Ilu also praulioxa among th* otiier fon'i4ii roaidunta, aa wuU as aiiioii.{ Iho riuh .la|NUiuM I'iivlo iiid his hoiiual oir iiii^a fisnii iho'ii havu laieii vary liliordly giv<'ii fill Iho siippirt of llm niiivo work, for buying ohiir. h loia, for orootiiiu olutpuU in ditforo it plao «. oto., ato. \Vo think ho |M d ,iiig iho a liid uvaiigolialio work, which ia far iiioro aoruplihlo than aonio iioHaiiumrioa' jHsir pruachingin half- •killiid-ton;>y and hit frienda ill llioir lino of tho Work, and did not ottoiid hia ayirtpathy lu Mrs l.aruo and thu Woman'a I'oniicil, thov would not have nionliiiiiod Inn nun proaohinit in ,la|>aiiuao and hia ir idioal work al all. Kor lliono I lungs aro not worth iiiuntioning to hi* diaailvaiilaKo . only ihixo who aru apt to iiidi.lge in techniuali- tion Would uii a,'>ii>iat thoiii. And alao if he did take Teat in o\ory Hiiniiiior and i;o to tho mountain, aa tho othur brethren do, and ihoro iliiii and oxiliange iliu mutual aentimonta with tlioiii, ho would bo ill »(iHi I'oiifuruncu, and tho liolovod phynuian loiliogr.'al foroi^n eominiinity of Tokyo, uspinially, ti. say nollung of the abiiiidaiil sorvii'o gratiiiUiualy roil lore I lo i' mniloMa niiiiiliora .>f native (.'hriHtiiinH and their fiiiiili. s. No u,ioil o.iii.se lacks Hiippoit with Dr Macdonald at hand lie IS still al Ins post, halo and hoarly a towor of strength to our misHion in .lapaii." From Iht "Eastern World." I. el mc next present an extract from an editorial in the I'.uknt World of Nov. ^rd, 181J4, a copy of which was sent nil' Iroiii the otVice of publication. I may remark that I know nothing personally of the pap'r or its editor, but I di'cm the extract iiiiportant as being the inde|)endent and unsolicited tcsiimo.iy of an outsider. It reads as follows : "From a rocnnt ■-lido in thu Hnnlil wo nop that there waa a hoited diHi.u«ion at TomiiIu botwoon tho Misaion Btmnl and the Miasion Council in Ja|Mn, at which there wai a pawage at 48 -:i',ii^mLimi/Z ■?5P«p!S? I'KOCKKDINOM HK JAPAN AKKAIHS -THK SKCUKTAHYS RKVrEW. «)!) •mm hotwMii Ihc Hky Dr. Muriloiialil iind ilia Hrr. Dr Khj. TliM fnriiiur, ttlioin wn hnvii tliu iiluuiiru to kimw fur iiiuirly tmi jroitn, tiMiiiil iicvHHiiiii tcililam« lliu iiii|iutui>*ily iiinl iliKiiniiihiin til iMuiiiiiii) tiiinni'lnl rai<|Kiiiiil)jlily of •iiiiiv iif ihu hri'lliruii, of wliniii till' I<<< (■> kiinw liiiii tlxTii ii liiit iiiiu <>|iiiilijii itlMiiit liiiii, naiiiely, tliiit Im in an iiiiiinniit IihyHicinii anil ii lliurmiKlily K""*' >■<'*■■ ■>> iiury riia|iiic't. Wn mow timt till trrHiN tliii liiitiililtwt luitittiit with llm fiiiiiir nirii itnil kiiiilni'M ih.il liu wonlil ilvvotti to tlm lu'itil of lliu Htntiv Dny Hiid iilKliti ■toriii, rnin or mmw, lin liiiii uvit Iwim runily (or tliu ■orvirv of iIidru rmiiiiriiiK luNiikill. In It iinreNiiiirv, Ihun, thiit to lie coiiaiili-i'iiil n |iilliir of tliu uliiirvli lu' ulioiilit itltiiiil piHycr iiiuutiiig*, wliilu ■oniH poor •iitrurHr in counting tlm iiiliiiilni ill wiiitiiiu for liis (iliyiiuinii itml frii'iiil ! For ii friuiiil Dr. MnfdiitiHliI !■ to nil liin |uilit)nlii, liin priiai'iico iitiil kiiiilly WHyH iiliinu Hrii « Ii'moii in ('liri*tijui lov>< niiil ilnvoti'iii, iiml it in n plmkHiiiit iliity to iiit to lii-iir uviiluiu.'a tn tlm nlorlin^t worth of ii ifooil mill iioIiIk nmii mii'h ii» lii< Ih. The toliiniiiit of Ihii pri'M know liiiii not, Inil hi* wunln hnve enrrinil .Mniifort to inuny ii liua"y hunrt. iiinl hurt) at leiiat hu hHN im iitu'il of iluftMivu iixniiiNt vuiionioiiH nttHi kt. From Dr. Khy's nniArka it iniKht Im in- forrtiil thnt Dr. MikiIouhMh uxtDiinivii iiriiciiiii is a noiiri'K of ilicoiiiti to hiiii : wu hiivii reniion to tliiiik that IIik nominal cli»r)(i'H III) inakua miiiiot i;ovi>r hia «xp«-iiat>N, anil, if .ii< truth wiTu known, it ini|iiitii prolialilolhatwhiit hiHi'i|{ht lianii tuk«ft hia lult i{ivi)a HMnv. Tliiit hi> alioiilil rnlau hii voiru a)(Hliiat pnrpow- leaH wiiati' of nioimy, Ihcrvforx, in 'hu uniction of iiiiliviiliial bru'k moniiiiit'iila to pcmoinil vani y. In thit ahapi' of Talur liacluN, I'tc, ia only in kecpiiiH with ihu man, ami wu foul Hiiru thnt hia viuwn will Iw aliaruil liy all wliu t«ko auah a Ui^U view of their ilutioHaa hudoua." le//tr from Mr. R. J. Kfrhy, nf Tokyo. In givinj; the next lotti-r, a wurd of explanation is necfs- sary. A few wockK a^o I received a call from an KnKlish genllciiinn, a .Mr. Kerljy, who has been a resident of Ia|)an for twenty se\en years, and had just taken his first furlough. lleing aci|uainteil witli many missionaries, and Christian work geiieraily, he conversed pleasantly aliout many things, but the difficulties in our mission were referred to only m the most brief and incidental way. Hefnre leaving; Toronto the next day, on his way to Japan, Mr. Kerby sent me the fnllowiiig letter, wlinh was quite unsolicited. I may further premise that Mr. Kerby is a Christian layman — a member of the Church of England. "QlIKiNH HoTKI., "Toronto, S'.fitemtier Wh, 18115. "DkiIIiSiii, llaviiiK hmrd that the charHctera of Dr. Mac- ilonaM, of 'Tokyo, hiuI Mrs. Ijnr^'u, Into of that oity, are l)uin){ aaaiiileil, as rux^irda their aiiitaiiility iih niiNHionariea for thu •lapan tiulil, I l>t!;<, w* a layman of twunty-aoveii yuara ruaiduiu'u in ■bipnii, to ^ivu my opinion rulalivo to the nliove two partiea. I know. Ill a Kiuatur and leaa iloKrce, nearly all of the I'l'otua- tant miaaioiiariua in •lapan, and am known liy them. I havii lived in Tokyo with iiiisaionarius aa my frionda for the paat tun yeara, and know what ia Koin){ on in the dill'erent miaaioiH a» well an any olhur liiyinan. I think. I have known Dr. Mai- donald all of thu time, ami know what people in Tokyo think of him. and I think he is thu nmat univer ly reapeuteil foreigner in .l.ip.in. l.iiyineii and iniasioiiaries alike all apeak well of him, and I think the lay forui|{ii opinion in , lapan ia too little valued liy nilHaioiiariea ; they are a power for ((ood or hail rulativu to niisaioii resiilta that miHaionariua value loo little. Kveii a Freiiih Koiiiaii prieat said to me, ' Dr. Maedonahl is a Iru ' (^liriatiai),' and thia yon will know ia a great de.il for a Roman priisl to aay of a I'rotuatiiiit. I have lieun on Com- niittuea with Dr. Macdonald, and have ahvaya found his jiid){ inent very aonnd ami • ' :• in all aulijecta conaidered liy liini, and I consider hia viewu >t pnetical inattom moat buainuBH-like and niethoilioal -virtuea not often found in miaaionuriea. " Aa regaiilH Mrs. Large, 1 eoliaidor that the article which appeared in the Jiji voiced the aquae of all ,lapane8e who have thought over the great event of her life, and knowing, iw I do, the Japaiiuae people, by my long iiiterO'Urae and everyday cloae touch with .lapaneae not prnfesaiiig the Chriatian religion, I think and know that the atand ahe took after her huHband'a death haa given her a puaition unicpie in itself in Japan, and that aho, of all foreign women in Japan, would be liatoned to with sympathy by tlie natiuii at lar^e, and through her work and life do niucn good in forwarding missionary endeavor in Japan, and that it would bo a great Insa to your mission to willidrnw ainh n woikrr With aui'h * power, purchased at an heavy a iirii e, I am aiire her preaeiiUM woiilil always Im wulcoiiieil by the •)apiiii''>e, iiiid could never tend but for giHMl. Mrs. Iiitrge haa always slliick Inn aa one of the niiait lovely typea of (,'hrialiaii wniiiaidiooil, coiiiliiiiuil with coninion aeni-e. I am ipiite willing to ipiualinn a iiiimlHir of ,lapanese as to whellmr my estimate of her ami Dr. Manlonald s position in correct or not, and let yon ki'ow, if you wmh. " I am aiire my iiiiiuikn would lie liiimu out by tha bulk of the iiMHaioiiaiy iiiid lay ii Niiliiita in Tokyo. " I might Miy that my kimwlrilgi' of the spoken and written Japaiiiae la not cuiiniilerid iih of a low atiinlaid, and I am ca|i»blu of i|iU'Stioniiig any .lapaneae yon may wish me to. (HIgneil) " Kii lUHli .1. Kbhhv." Upon the foregoing letters I make no comment, pre- ferring to let them speak lor themselves, as though they were living witnesses present lielore the Hoard. ( Du. Kiiv-F just wiah to iiak if I might liiivw a copy of the diiiMiini'iit that is iM'ing reiul, so that Mr. CiiNaidy and inyHt'lf might limk over it, or tlii'ie might be a copy given to oacli of us. I wish to Hiivo till- time of the Hiuird as iiiili'li lis piiMsibli'. luiil fur that piirpoHi- wnnld like to lio iililo til loiik over the 4ituiition .in as to make Honio prepani- tioii, because evi'i'ylKidy will uiuli-rstaiid it would Im> ipiitB iinpossible for us to reply iilTliaiiil iiiiinediately after the ri'iiiliiii,' of the iloeiinieiit, svliich is ao full. (•'ui'thiT, 1 woiiliI ask tliiit I might have accesN to the documontH that lire referred to, ami any ntlier iloi'iiiiieiits that are lelevailfc lo the case ; because these things will be neeetmary for iini to present tlm ease as I understaiiil It fi'iiin our side, and the ipiesliiin ia simply how I coiilil get at those dueuiiicnta, PerhiipM i>r. Shaw iniglit Imik over the documents that would lit reli-viiiit. If it were left for me to cull them up one by one as they were needed, I luii tkfi-iiid it would take up II gooil deal of time. .Mil. .1. .\. .\l. AiKl.N.s - I would move that Mr. Caasidy and |)r T^by be permitted to have copies of this, on thu iiiiilerstaiiiliii;; that they are not to be made public, but for their own priviile use in nriler that they may have an opportunity nf answeiiiij; them. 'That is, a copy of thu ."stateiiieiit the .*u. Kiiv -Only the duciiiiieiits that \ would refer to for other inalteis that I noiilil speak nf in cniinection with our work ill .lapan. .Some nf my nwn letters, fnr instance, anil .Minnies of the , lapan t!niifeieiice, certain Minutes nf the Hnaril that liiue reference tn myself, and other documents of that descriplinii wliieh I have no cnpy nf. I)n. I'nlTs -I think it will be the height of wisdom nn the paitof Dr. Sutlierliinil, and on the part of the Hoard, In allnw 1)1'. l''.by and Mr. Oassidy to have the fullest access l) all the documents in the possession of the Hoard. Of course it diws iint nic.iii that they are gninfj; tn be taken away, ruder the guidance nf Dr. Shaw they can he seen. T linpe llii'l'c will be tin nbjectinii tn that. 'TllK (lll.Mli.MKN Is llii'ie a mntinii tn that effectl l)n. SrrilKlil.ANi) - 'These dncunients are tlie property of the Bnird, uiiil the Rnaiil can nrder whatever it wishes. Dii. Knv — -Ale all these documents here 1 A Mr.Mlinii 1 suppose that Dr. Eby's request is simply that he may have access to them — not that he is to take them into his pos.se.ssion. TliK (^il.viuM.w — lie ciM-tainly would have the right to call for them. T w.is going tn suiigest to him whether it would not in 'ot his cisi' tn look nver what he has in hand now by order of tht? Board, and then prepare a list of what he might want. Otherwi.se, of course, as he is proceeding 40 64 PROCEEDINQS «/: JAPAN Abj^AlRS. with his ativtnniniit, lin will call for il .cuments, ami ho will have :k rii^lit to the! (loouiiiButs. We, of course, .vill funuHJi the ilo'\nifiit8. Dii. Poi'Ts -Thivt will meet his o.\sb, he says. 1)h. T. (i. Wir.M \Ms — Tliiit he will t-iil;o notes of the Imoks ho wisliet to '»xaiii':uo, r.'>(l papnrs, .iikI iiaiiil in a list -.A those to 1)! oi I'sulto I to the .Secretary's depr.rt.nont, so that they will hi rrraiij^oii ami be on hand, ami not hive any delay. The uioiuent they are called for they will be brought forth. Tub CiiAi niw— That, ! think, will meet the cose. But Dr. Rby ous^lif to feel assured we are not K»'"S '^'* obstruct m any r'ig.vr.l his gettini; all the information he requires. Dh. Eby — I am perfectly s.itlsfied with that. Adjourned at 10.35 p.m. uniil 9 a.m. to-morrow.] [Oon'niittce of the Whole resumed on Saturday, < )ct<>ber r>th, at It a.m., and after some nvutine business th'> i(ev. Dr. .Sutii 'rland proceedeil with tht .'eiuling of hia .State- ment it foUows :] X. IKE SHIZUOKA CHURCH AFFAIR. A Brief History. Allusion has elsewhere been made to the fact that in the e^.timate.s for 1893-4 the sum of $600 appeired opposite the name of Dr. M.acdonald, as .vas the case in the pre- vious year ; but before the Hoard assembled a letter was received from the I )octor s.'iying, "Circumstances liave arisen that make it iiecess.iry, in the interest' of the mission, that my salary l)e |)ut .'.t $i,?5o, insteid of $600 as stated in the estimate'" This was all the information I received at the time, a .1 it is all I would have received from Dr. Macdonaui had not others interfered. The circum.si 'nces — or circumstance rather— .alluded to, was the assumption by Dr. Macdonald of a debt of 1800 yen on the Sbi.^uoKa church, as the only means, in bis judgment, of saving the trustees from crushitig financial embarrassment. This fact he did not communicate to me, but in the early paK of 1894 I leccived in some way -I cannot now renieinber how —an impression that Dr. Macdonald had bo^'oiiie involved, through no fault of his own, in serious financial responsibility in connection with the new Shiz-uoka church. Knowing the Doctor's reticence in such matters, and think- ing this might be a case reipi ring action by the Executive, I wrote a private letter to Dr. .Macdonald, dated KebrL.iry 27t!i, 1894, in which 1 referred to the Shizuoka churcli, and a^^'.-d for information. licfore giving Dr. Mac- donald's reply 1 should explain that for some years Mr. Cassidy was sf'ioncd at .Siii/.uoka, and w.a^ Chairman of the District. As far back as 1889, when I visited Japan, the Shizuoka congregation were straitened for lOom, and negotiations were even th .•11 in progress looking toward the purchase of a new lot anc the erection of a new and belter church. Subseijuently a no'ole effort w.is made, and with some help from the Missionary Soc:iety, and a donation of 1,010 yen from Dr. Macdonald, besicles s 'bscriptions from the nati\e congregation, the enterprise was curried through, and a commodious brick church was built. The debt was 1,000 yen, but against this was the < '1 church lot. v.ilued at 800 or 900 yen though subseipiently sold, as will appear, for 360 yen. ;\ few weeks alter the new church wai dedicated it was swept away in one of those extensive conflagratio is so cmnmon in |a[)anc.se cities. It was an appalling disaster, but the people, encouriiged very pro|)crly by the Mission ("ouncil, re.solv<-d to rebuild without delay. The Missi.inary Hoard responded with a grant of 2,000 yen, and an .idvance of 2,000 inore, which it wn ho|)ed would be recouped by voluntary donations of frauds in Canada, and by subscriptioi s which it was hopied .Mr. Cassidy would collect v,'s a little tinancial diflirully >\"a8 in proa;*ect. "(In lunc llith. ISll.'l, .Mr. t/assidy wrote : ' You will nee by my stateni'-nl that I pu! the itt.'ni from tlie MinHion Hoomii in !>y itself, and include thc.^Tt.OO pain l>y I'r. Kliy for .Mr. ( Ofking as 8id»i(M'ip. tions. I'hi- othrr JI.S co anil .Mr. \VliiltinKlon'» J,">.l»0 were put into the old ac'iiunt, an 1 are ai'ionntel for in tlie WIW.'.J1 with which the new a<>eount i,.* openoil. These two amounts do not go into t)u' 4,(MH) ii.sked for. and are kept in the oM ai'Liniut. In fact, unleaa tlic wliole j4lll.'JI in raise 1 in oome way outside the 4,00() the trustees may ijave a hard enonijh time to get through.* "Tlie .Ht.iteuuMU to wliu'h Mr. I'as.sidy refers is one in which tl.o dehl on tlio .'hi church '\* put at $4ltl.-.if. "To ni:ik'? sure that there were no aeriou.s difBeultiea nriaing, I wrote to Mr. Cas.sidy the next day, .lune ITtti, ISIK'. : ' Yotu'8 of yentir.lay duly reeeived. It wa'i '.lie nnderstanding that if wo got "4,(KI0 il'wonf.l rehnild the churc!i and \m\ the oM delit. I'liat iri how the matter *"!une before u«. I shall he sorry if you are uhort, but I e.innot ad\auei' beyon.l the yen 4, (MM).' "Dnduue MMh, ISll.t, Mr. Cassiily replied thnn : ' Yon are quite eon-.-et in sayific tlr\i that w.m the m.'ixiunim pr4>mif.e'l or <:«tiniated. It was only ii'ieiiily thai .Mr. Kiijinanii told me that tlie .'KM) loaned th'-m in onler not t.i fortrt! the sale of the old lot, might not be lovered by •'"" 4,0IK>, whieh of eourw only uu'ans that if thev liinnot !",11 th • Im they will have to Ixirrow it till they can. If 1 can I will 'c .foniv way remove the lulancc of the old dtbt in exres..) of the :UH).' "The .'tl)n w.iH uu ammiut loaned to the trustoas by .Mr. Cassidy on 'iie ol i d'-bi lie ri.i.'onped himself f«ir this loan by taking it (Mil of the bil.iur,. of the 4.(KI(), when he liau.l..d it o'vor to Mr. Hiriiwa, Tile e\ esH mentioned, Iming b.fclani-e of the old debt, was tile .Iill..ren..e between ItlKi and *4(lt.'il, that i.s to say il(il.2l. This .sl.iiemee of Mr (.'aasidy was <•'■;, -atisfaetory and reassuring. There w.i.s only S4iit.'21 of aii .ild 'lebt', a!. :"ist which Hto.pd the old lot. The «iir.«l that eoul I liappen. -.i i supposed, would .0 that we iniglit luce to eariy ihi^ .•■•■■■•i.it till v.e s.dd the lot, and nego- tiate any .li'leren.e if the lot boM for less than $4(l4.v;l. 'I ncro was notliiiig to alarm anymie in this. Indeed, I regarded the state of alfairs as hiu'hly Hatisfaeiory. ■ Karly in .lidy last, just at the close of the Confennee, Mr. Iliiaiwa naiil to mi- iliat it ..is re|><«ted amongst the .lapinese brethren thai tlie Shizuoka ehurrh was hopelessly invidved in debt -a dei.i .if alMiit •.'.(1110 yen. Having h.-d '.Mr. Dassidv's Mrillen si.it.iu. lit. I assured hiin that .. could not be true, ke fhook his head eel sai I that he dreade.1 to go there. Toheeortair, he went lo Shi/uoka before Mr. Cassidv le't, with the idea of letirniug tlie farts, i di '. not s. e him again till after Mr. Cassidy ha.1 saile.l f.u- Canada. .Mr Cissidy, in the meantime, spent several il.iys at otir I'oush. During the time he never mentioned a word aUiiit .Shizuoka ehnnli allairs, and I, «ni>poi»ing everything was all riglit. aske.l no ipieslions. ^ ■' III ,1 lew days .Mr. Ifiraiwa came for money j said that Mr. Cassidy til.l 1,1111 to come t.i me ; that things were in a bad state. He said that Mr. C'assi.ly olfered to raise monev to luiy an organ, but th.it he iihkeil .Mr. Cassidy to raise money I'-, iielp them out of thi'ir embarrassed fiiiidil ion ;" that Mr. Casmdv nia.le no p:ouiiso. I Htaie this beause I Wits nidir the impression thai Mr. Cassidy ha I under! ken to laisi mey at home. " I lol.l Mr. lliraiwa that a'lVairs were s.i involved that I e.iiild to noil. lug until I had a liiiaiieial statement in detail, and a report 111 wriliii/ . . ,.|iii;{ ilu. whol,. ground. In due time the re|K)it and the stal.Mn.ii.. .■ame. (saw tint aetjon had to bo taken at onec. I wrote 1.1 .Mr. Cassidy on the IHIIi August. After eonsideration I sent, August L'lth, IS!);), a eopv of that letter to voii. To my letter of .\ugust imh, i"!),-), .Mr. Cassi.ly replied on'Oetolx-r 7th. I imote some passages : • In r,.gard to .Shizuoka ull'airs the serious and diseouragiug light in whbh matters have been represented to you makes the iHsition .if allairs look somewhat worse th.an it did wlioii 1 left. But it seems natural and jwrlmpa necessary that the to PROCEEDINQS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. x,a the rollowing to yours of lli'i). Ouaaiiiy, nr tw<» itttre ill KMk {>•{■ (in HtC'IM ill iliitt \\,\l xlin|io tho ■ you to f,cr- uf tboin, that "ins, Toronto, i-iry, innrkoil n|>lii;iiion iv.!il iho aitli ('iissidy, in triiMtturH mill wntc'il tlie upon him for hu Shizinikn (tlo thinnciiil ill Hpu by my in liy itsolf, K llH8ulM(M'i|). 01) wiirc put *»(U.-.'l witli nts ilo ii'tt (^o Hit. Ill fact, lp Ilio4,00() ikIi.' in which tl.o ioa (irimng, I i ; ' YiMira ol hilt if we L'lit .h-ht. Thiit uu lii'o NJiort, k'oM ftre (luite or iwtiiii.iti'd. [Imt till' ;t()l) It, niiglit not I'iuiK thut if ill they can. c olil ilt'jt in Mr. Cusiily hy tnkini; it ovor to Mr. hu ohl iluht, .•my ffUU.'JI. I ri'asHuriii);. ilon.j thi-olil mill ,« t!iat >t, aiiit iiego- . i! I . '1 IKTO L'll the atate r«'rtnre, Wr. lu- .|n|iilu;Hr> involviMl in r. (.'.iHsitlv'fl f triiB. k« > lioc-rtair, tile i'lea of ilr. (!axiiiI for ilobt in two years of course implies that no one w lie dei.lt wi'i,, so early in Ifl93 a trustee meeting was held with tho idea of getting money. The question of inort- gagin{{ the pro|>erty to tlic bank was ilisuussed and decideil upon, Mr. Cassidy being present anil consenting. erty, applied to his friends, and succeodod in getting iiioiioy without a mortgage. The interest was at about 1 1 per cent. When the first instalment of the interest (T-MI8 yen) came due it was paid out of tho 4,000 yon grant, by Mr. C.isaidy, 1 suppose, as he administered t!ie fund. The trustees iiad no idea of paying the iutcresL, as they w^re utterly unable to do it. They intended to go on as long as they could, i>t'l when they could go no longer to mortgage the properly. " The debt on the old chinch w.ia 1,461.21 yen, with the old lot as an asset ; when the new church was completed the debt was 1 ,800 yen, without any assets. This 1,800 is the amount that was paid, leaving the church free. '* .'Vs I had to ask for full salary, I reported the condition of affairs to the Kxeciitive Committee of tlie Council. I tlanl that I expres.sed surprise that Mt. ('assidy went away without say;ni/ a word about the matter stopped oil ami lot the avalanche fall on mo. Mr. (Jriimmy, it seems, at once wrote to Mr. Cassidv. His loiter evidently stirred up Mr. (Jiuisidy, for he wrote to me from Oxford in the imperative imMHl. He also wrote a letter to tho Council, evi- dently writti-n without consulting menioranda. The members of the Cominiltee, I think, also heard from him, for i was chargeil with aci.iiig under a panic intliieiicc ; of interposing whore there was no need ; that Mr. ('assidy and the trustees knew better than I cmild know -, that .Mr. Iliraina was for the most part responsible or the trouble, siid why could I not lieliove Mr. Cassidy rather than Mr Hiraiwa ? I did not pay much attention to those criti- cisms, boiiiiuse I knew tliivt they wcro made by those who had not taken the slightest trouble to ac(|iiaiii( thoinsetves with the facts, but replied that I had a<}tod .nly after thorough investigation, and that I had documents in support. "The document.') are : " I. My hitters to Mr. Cassidy. "2. .Mr. Cissidy's letters to me and one to the Council. ".1. Ccrtilied statutnont by the trustees. "(d) Financial statement in detail. " (/>) Kcport i-ontaining full explanations. "I would send these documents lo you, but 1 may need them here in the Conn, il to vindicate myself and Mr. Hiraiwa ; but if Mt. Cassidy wislies an iiivc«ti;;ation he will notify me, ami I will at once put tlit^ papers in your hands. * When I iinitcrtook to rescue the .Shi/.uoka church from ruin 1 thought it would take two years, but with the help recoivcil fnim home, and in oonseiiuonce of the great fall in exchange, the whole matter will be adjuatod this year, and a balance will lie left to apply on the purchase ol the .Xziibii hit. 1 feel thankful that the matter is adjusted. I have no grievance ; I do not wish to attach blame to anyone ; I do not want an investigat iiin- -it wMl be ilealing , with a past issue ; but if Mi. (/assidy wishes an invest .gation I am [.willing that he should lie gratitied. " If I had not relieved the posi thin the church could not have [ been finished without the borrowing of an additional 800 yen, S This would have made a debt of 1,800 yen, with intereit amounting to about 100 yen falling due every six months, without the slightest possibility of dealing with 't. Mr. Cassidy knows that I introduced our plan of Self-support, anil firmly stood by it when others would have weakened j and if ho will take tho trouble to draw on infer- ence from hard fuels, he will see that instead of breaking down our plan, a disabling, crushing weight has been taken from the .Shizuoka poiple, and they have boon restored to a position in which they can work our plan of self-support. " Now, after all that has lieen said, tli's church is a credit to us. It stands in the r.eart of the town, in the midst of the Uovernment buildings, an attractive representation of Christianity. It ia a credit to Mr. Cassidy also, for he worked out the plan ; it is paid for, let us lie thankful. " Faithfully yours, "D. Macdonald." Statement from Mr. Hiraiwa. Under date of August i6th, Mr. Hiraiwa sent to Dr. Macdonald the Tollowing statement : " 1. \n re-building Hhi/.uoka church any exact estimate of the cost h;ts never been made, but the cost of the recentiv burned churc". hu baeu tiken as itj basis, and 4,003 yen were roughly estini' jjd ti LOver the whole cost of re-building, without inciuuing the debt on the former one, according to the detinite answer of tne Trustee Hoard to my iiK|uiry. No contract for the whole has boen obtained from t lo builder, but only for a portion, whioh amounts to 2,781 yen ; that covers the timbers, carpenters' wagjs and brick- •noil's wages Certain alterations were since inadt by the direction of Mr. Cassidy, for which no special consideration was promised to the ontractor at the time, nor estimate was taken from him, but the truiteos are sure that the contractor would claim some con- sideration at tho end. " '2. As to the parts ol the wo'k besides tho contracted portions, it had been arranged in the luginuing that the Trustee Board should buy and furnish the materials according to the need (such as stoii'i, cement, lime, bricks, etc., etc.) and pay the wages for the work done. The work of re-building has been going on thus, partly contracteil and iirlly iirovided ; and the Trustee Board judges that this was tlie . Iieaper and surer way. [I'aragrayhs .'i to 0, referring to brick walls, fences, etc., etc., are oniitte 1 a) having no bearing on tho case.] " 7. As to the debt on the burnt church, the Trustee Board borrowed three hundre.l yen (300) from Mr. Cassidy, without any interest, just at the time of its dedication, to pay for some work- men, as well as to defray the expenses in connection with the do lication. But that sum was paid back to Mr. Cassidy at the en I of the last month (.luly), on his demand, out of the present building fund, .'lud agiiii one thousand yen (1,000) were borrowed from a .Japanese in the city of .Shizuoka, five hundred yeh on the 29th September, 1892, and t'le other five hundred yen on the 2nd January, 1893, lioth at the interest of three sen for a hundred yen [ler day. " This debt of 1,300 yen was contracted partly because the actual cost for the former church was quite beyond the estimated cost, rsnd partly because the old church and lot, upon which the Trustee Board much counted, was not sold in good time, and then loss by the Hre. The unpaid subscriptions for the fonner church (burnt one) are only yen 148.62, which I do not think we can count upon now at all, though some of the trustees believe they can. " We cannot expect any more from our own people on the build- ing, as they have ipiite a largo sum of debt even on the running oxponsos ot the Church in hand to be liquidated in some way. We cannot go to the outside people for help either, the trustees tell me, I eyniid the sum put down as promised or due in the table. Therefore the sum of 1,820.42 more must be raised or secured in soino other way, as the table elearly shows, liefore the church is clear of u ly delit, and is ready for the revived work and growth." Additional Letter from Mr. Hiraiwa. This statement from Mr. Hiraiwa was followed by a letter throiving some furtiter light on the situation, as fol- lows : " Shizuoka, AvgMl 17<», 1893. "Devr Dr. M.M'iioNALn, — Your letter of 11th iiist., inclosing yen l,3.>0 on liank note, was duly to hand, and much thanks for the money. I ahould have answered you liefore this, if I could get all the facts and accounts in regard to the Shizuoka church sooner. It was not a very easy task at all. I asked the meinliers of the Trustee Board "to produce a atatcinent of all the accounts, con- tracts, ealimates, and the proljalile future cost, etc., for which they spent two days, and then I aiiiioiinced for tho mooting of the Board, which was held on the eve of the lust Tuosdav, at the par- sonage, when I obtained all the materials that are emlmdied in the enclosed table ami written 'explanations,' for which I bad Iwen at work the whole of yesterday and evening. Mr. Ciussidy, cf course, knew all about the ilebla ami the modus oprniiuli of tho building wli>l not ui> beyond aeventeeii yen in average fur Reverul nioiitltK, unit the roRmt ia the average iletioil i)f twelve or thirteen yen numthly. 'I lie steward* I'ontrurted a ilola (tho ilvlit la nut iirivule, Ixit una reiiorled to the y. O. Board caih time) of y«'i \lih.'i nince llu' li\»t Septetnber, of which yen 5^.74 were liorriiwed I'ltini the Imililiiig fund, and the other part, yen )(H), fron) the Home Miitninnitry Society, withacen lin interest. They do not know how to |iiiy theie debts at pri^iut, and the dillii'lilty ito'reasi's when llii' IH'W church is finished and movod into, lu the lUiuiinu expense* would go up most certainly. I ilo not know hut the only way will Ih' (o give them a part of my salary, tha> is, to excuse Iheni ot the |iart they have to pay me (yen 2>) per uumthi (or the next coming >i>: months, so as to enable them to lii|uidate the ilelit and lo Hiarl anew after the six months expired, and my I'umily try to subsist on the part I receive from the Mission Fund, thou)(h I liave lo uivc or send yen 15 monthly to Tokyo for my father anil three chililren. "The last time when the Trustee Hitard mmMinif wivm hcM, I asked them to sell the old lot lU* siKin as )Mmsdtle, and 1 am ^luil t in a ^ery had condition, and that much mure than that would have to lie ' obtained. "1 told him that I muld not ailvunce anything until I had a full explanation in writin.-. and had Ihh'II intoniicil of the expeiiitiliire to the Inst cent. Th:- inoiniiiglhe liillalatemenl came wilhcxpliiu ations. I was stuiiiud. I ilid not draain that such a Nlatc of affairs could possiblx exist. "They have a t'.v^it of ven l.()0(l, with intsivst of II per nut., the interest so far having (>een |iaiil out of the Miwiion giaiil They paid for the cemetery also out of that grniil. They Imiiirii nut of the grant over ven .'>0 to fmv .Mr. Kolniyitshl his salary, iind \nw- roweil yon 1(K) Iwsides for tiie same pur|Mise This .Mr, llirniwa has to ct)pe with, probably lose, rertainlv so in deticii'iicy iu italsry, " The .lapanese suliseriptions to the chtirt-h have Ihtii \h\\\\ except aUnit \AH yen, wliich aie not <-ollec(able. "According to the detailed btal«menl, the cost of reliuiUring the ehiireh ami the old debt amount to yen tl,;t1tT 01 Assets, including laiiil at 3>'>0, . , " 4,tV(t7 tVO Amount of the indebtedness. , . . ; yen I.St'Jlt Vi "This state of affairs is very trying, but the dilllculty iiuikI Ik' met. They cannot |k»y the interest on the 1,(KI0 and keep Ilic church going. If action be not taken at once the thitii li rioiiml Vie finished, and in liss than two years the pitijHirty wouhl la' sold for debt. " The I,8'i9.4'2 must lie raised at one«. I i»» n» oilier way hut to earn the money by meilical work. I have accoiiliiigly adilressid 11 note to ]>r. Siitherlainl, a ^-opy of which 1 ciicIom-, It is a large sum for me to iiiidcrtHke, particularly as so many fori'igiicrs iim' leaving Tokyo; the receipts for nicilical work must diniimxli, Furthermore, I do not wish to put mvself under pn>»snieol that kind. Kveii with the l,K'.M).42 some things will lie left uncMiiiplcicil, "The trustees say lliat in llic leliuilding o( Ibc .Slii/imka church an cxat^t estimate of the cost was never made, but (he cnst of the recently burnt church was taken as llie Imsis, ami 4,IIKI m n were roughly estiniateil lo cover the 1 nsl of tebiiilding, Millicui including the ilebt on the former rliiircli. "1 nnder..torHl Mr. Hiiaiwii to say that vou had agreed to laisi' sfime money at home. He tlid not I' now liow niiicli. If yuii t-aii do so, it will come as a >;icat relief to me in ilcniiiig «"iih this 1,829.42. Kindly send aiiv iiiiouiits that you may raise, and I will them at once in icilmiiiu the dilit. apply up me. " 1 am very glad, under the cinuiiislaiices, that I did not giM' 1 me*sary. that the in « man shouhl see a goi'. The stalenieiil that the church would lie sold for debt in twi> venrs of course implies that no ime would do anything during the tuo years, which is alwunl. There is no use In making things Umk wois'e than they really are. 1 knew there was a bit of a crisis coniiiig, anil it is hciiltliy that it should ctimo. It will do gooil : and yi'U may Iw sure that [ shall endeavor lo do my aharo toward "•elieving it. Of course my ivgiilar work miiat go towaitl the rogu lar liiaril funds ; but outside of that, I shall pick up a gooe that a more favorable rate of excliaiinc Hill help us out. " The Hoard has given iiic pcrmiB.sion to s|iend the year in H|>ecial study. I intend 10 go to Knglauil and nee wha* I can do there. I found that 1 ioiilil only have a reduced allowam e even if I did full or dniibic work, and I could liavc ulsjut the same to go and study, so I nm going lo folhiw your example and try to fit myself for greater UBefnliiess in future. Youra, F. A. C." Afr. Cassidy's Letter lo the Council. 1 h.ive alrcidy shown that in order to meet this emeru I'tiey Dr. .Mactlon.TJd assumed the whole debt of yen 1,800. piir|iiising to [).iy it out of his medieal practice. Hut this made it necessary for him to receive his full salary from the Hoard, and as the estimates had already been sent home asking for only $600, it was necessary to explain to the Coiineil the reasons for asking for $1,250 instead. .'Nccordinnly at a meelinn of the Council Dr. Macdonald britlly slated the case and expressed some surprise that Mr. Cassidy had not told him about the matter before leaviiij; Japan. It appears that Mr. Crummy at once wrote to Mr, Cassidy, who was then in f)xford, F.ngland, and the letter drew from luiii the following reply, which was read to the < oiiiiiil at .Mr. Cassidy's request. The first paragraph is otiiiited, as it does not touch on the case : "S(l .SoiTiiMtHiH Road, ■'OVKOKD, Knoumi, " Dmitih,,- \At, 1893. " 7'K,\H B'lKTHUKN, I iiiiisl take the time to refer to a mall -i- wi .1 IS somewhat piiz/ling and distrea.sinu to me at this gre.it ilistiincc. .Inst on having Canada I ii.eived a letter from one nl our friends '.f the \V. .\I, S., in which was a sentence something like the fiillo.viiig! I am very sorry that anyone Willi whom i have Worked sliould have his name so stained as yours has lieen in con iic-tiiui with the church here |i,>., Shi/uotal. I don't put it in i|iintiitioii, i-'cause I c lilt HKcar to the exact words. This »iih "imply pill 111 gratiiiliMiKlj us a matter that was so well iindersliHul M to need neither explanalion nor pioof. (If course it did pii/.y.le tin and annoy nic, and I fell as llimigh I had a Ccuiiieil of liiithren on the spit who knew the facts of the ciise— whatever the c,-., might Is' and «li'>. as brother ministers, would Is' sure to sec iliat ic fiHilish up.. It nhoiilil gain advaiue in my absence at least, »Hl 1 waiting my explanation. So 1 sent the letter, with a couple ucm. like It, oil lo Dr. Sutherland, Ui Iw kept till needoti, and dismissi .1 the matter from my mind. " Hill lest any niisunderstandiiig shouhl arise, and you shouhl mil be in posHcssion of the fiictK 111 enable ynu to deal with it promptly, I Isg 111 send you 1, few wonls .,f explanation of the state of atfaii^, as I hft Iheiii, in regard In the ihuich to which the sentence refers "111 the lirst place, ph'iue- Isai in iniinl that I left some little time Is'fore the fiiiiBhing came on ; and anyone of 'x|ierieiice kimw- that that is a time at wlinli it is iin|ssisilile lo tell lo lOD or 'JtHi ,M i» how anything is to come out, i.r., on a big contract. « mmM^ mm^. " '■"I" W»Ujy*S(. K^f, T|w ji PROCEEDINQS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 67 lere wiu 1,000 inbility was so fierienue twice iiifnreieeii o'nli. » Ink) thiiiu in certainly lAea thcrlanil, but I e whole of tliut would not fear yet, and don't owl from • To-niorrov. ' J. Aftar thai onie kind. >g A. CAHsinr. or the division I that the truH to that. Th.' ' is inexcaanbli', ipeatedly ■« to vat undertaken I ilon't under owledge of til.. r debt in twd iiig during xhv iiig things l(H)k bit of a crisix will do good ; y share toward iwaifl the regu <|> a Kood dciil K A. C. liiij? except tliu s II not grant of >vor»l)le rate nl ! year in special n do there. I en if I did full go and stuilv, o fit invself fill V. A. u." it. t this emery of yen 1,800, ce. But this II salary from iy been sent to explain to ,250 inste.nd. •. Macdonald surprise th.il natter befon- at once wrote and, and tlir (i was read to rst paragraph iNn, n Council : fer to a nmli..i * at this gre.il T frnni one i»t soinclliin^ |ik> whom I hmr « Iwen in imi 'in't nut it ill '!». Thin HUH I'll iindvitiliHKl did puxr.le iik of iMf'thrcn mi he lii-K- miglii « »ei> that II" least, uitlinut a I'liuple iiioM uid ilismisM'il ou should mil I it piiiniiitl\ . late of allrtirn, iitenco rt'feri* Ft aonie littli Briunce kii(iu>' 'M lOi) or UtNi Bt, " When Mr. Hiraiwa eamo out he spent several hours with the truslooa, and wont over everything, Then he eanie Ui uie for explanntiona, and I tried to nmku everything lu clear lu |Misailile. He exiiriwsed himself iw highly pleased with the way things stuod, except that there was uaidoral)le liability to \>e 'met. Thiit, of course, we both felt. Hut everything wiw 'iiuito stniiglit, and all wo needed to do was to stand up sipiorelv to our individual |mwI», and all would ooine out right. The liability stmhl iks follows : " Amount assumed by the ohuroh, and iKir- rowed b) them yon 1,000 Ainouiil over this which would be re- quired to pay all claims •' 700 Total yen !,;00 " Against thai stood the old lot which wo heUI at first at SIN) but alter at (IW), and then when 1 was couiiug away llioy were talking of letting it go at H.V) or 400 yen. So that theiiinounl uiiprovideil fur was tliu ilifforcnco lietwcon the lot and 700. .\c- coriliiig ti) a leUor 1 received from the Chairman, Dr. Macdonald, this TOOscenH later to have im^i-oiweil to 81(0, whicli would make a niHximiui of debt unprovided for of .'SDO veil, or soinetliing U«s than »;«)0. "Of course, I knew we must provide for this in simie way, but hiul not the slightest fear of my JK-ing abb to cidlect it i.t liome. My purpose was to let the trustees carry the 1,000 yen whioli they hud assuiuiMl, and never touch it olRoiaily, but after the other hail lieen cleared off and the account dosed, to help them privately. " Soiiietliing dropped by Dr. autherliuul led me to wonder whether you liail misundcrstiKid the position niid uuderlii'-.en to osauiiie the whcdc huiount — l.MUO. 1 hojie this is not s.i. If it is, I protest iigainst it as demoralizing to the spirit of indu|>enilenJO which wc have been trying to cultivate in our churches. .^111 that we have anything to do with, officially, is the Imlancc .if lh.> 701) veil or 800 yen after the pi'o.oe.ls .)f the lot has lieeii iipplieil on it. To do more wiuihl be .1 moat lamentable iiii.itake. Anil surely the lialanoc to which 1 have referi-ed is not a.uli an amount as to create any panic or abirni wluui exchange stands at so low a rate. " .Apart from lliia wiia a little matter which iiiav have lioen mis- understo.>d tluingli 1 cxplaine.l it to IhhIi Dr. Macdonnl.l and .Mr. Hiraiwii. Of course my explanation was not otiicial, but merely iw a sort of gK-lwtween, :inil may not have been taken u.uch notice of. It w.is an item of ,'100 yen which I h.... advauoeil as 11 tempor- ary accouiino.ltttioii when tlicy were piciiariiig to oiicii llui tint church in ^fovelnbcl', ISiW. I Ktaleil clearly how it was at the time, and sev.iral times siibseoiiciitly warned them thiit I coiil.l not carry that lii'vonil the close of llic year. So when closing up there was 11.1 way for iiie but to lake il mit of the balane.- .lue the hiiil.ling fun.l, and restore it to the Di-'rict funds. Df course, 1 w.udd not have carried it so long hui' not the Hre made it ditficult to pi-esa ttiiylliing. Or if the hit ban licon sol.l, I vmuhl have put in that as a first claim asainst llic pi-ocee.ls. Mr. Kujinami tbouglit they wouhl lie eiiibarr.iMHeil by my tikim; it out of the lulancu, s'l I ex- plained to him that possibly Dr. Macdonald could .oiitinue the loan till the lot could be sold, but us for me, 1 ha.l to get out .if office and must m>cda close my iiooks. -So I look it out, aiul .icc.inl- iiig to piomis.Miskcd Dr. Macdonald to give it his iimsI favoialile consideration when they would apply to him coiiceriiiug il. "Of course, had 1 not t;ikcn it out, then I would have Ihmmi guilty of a serious crime indeed. The be-.t I could do for tliL-m was to let lliein have It for seven or eight months, free of interest, sn.l thim comineiid their ca.so to the Tri'iisurcr, but I had 110 other ooui'se open than to clo.se up my bisik and get out of oltice. "There wero two other circumitaiices of which 1 heard through you, one the liNiniug ■ ; money to make up Mr. Kotiayoshi's wiluiy deficit. Of tliat 1 h i no knowledge. The purchase of the bury- ing giomiil I had loi,^ desired and lope 1 for, but I hud mi iitirl in it when it was doii.'. It was not, ai.yway, .lone .111 my authoritv- " I am mo-it cl.'ar, in my own minil. in re/ard to the whole six years of my adminiatralion of mission liimiices ertiiieiitly state such an insuliiiig thing as that my name is staine.l in connectioii with this business IS more than I .ilo understand. Hut if you my brcthran are, as men— lis Hritiaheis as Christians -as brolherniiiiislera, faithful to mu in my abseii" 1, no mud slingers will siic.-etHi in s.iillii;; my g.Ki I name or iindoing the work of iny seven yeai-a of toil in .lapaii. 1 mil but a humble acrvmr in my .Master's work. I claim no li.uui, but the honor of huiulile mid faithful siu'vice ; but th.vse who uii.I.m- take to di'fsiiie and injure mt are fighting not against me, but against Kim " whose 1 am ami Whom I serve. " Again wishing you all abundant sin'cess in your toil, I remain " Faithfully and sincerely yours, " V. A, Cawiov."' Some Mistakes Corrected. The reading of this letter in the Council seems to have aroused the partisan spirit in no ordinary dei^rc", and IV, Macdonald was arrused of acting under a panic inlluentv ; of interposing when there was no noeil. It was aDtrmed that Mr. Cassidy and the trustees knew letter than he (Dr, Macdonald) could know; that Mr. Hiraiwa was for the most part responsible for the trouble, and why could not Dr. Macdonald believe Mr. Cassidy rather than Mr. Hiraiw.i? This is another illustration not only of the hostile attitude of the Council toward Dr. Macdonald, but also of their determination to make common cause when- ever one of their number was implicated. Two or three points in the letter itself, touching matters of fact, should be noted. Mr. Cassidy says Mr. Hiraiwa expressed himself "IS highly plea.sed with the way things stood ; but this does i;ct harmonize with the statement in Mr. Hiraiwa's letter. Hi says that against the church debt of 1,700 yen there wa-, the old lot which they talked of selliiig for 350 or 400 yen. Hut this is a mistake ; the debt was 1,800 yen over and above the value of the church lot. Mr. Cassidy says that during his six years on the Shizuoka District six par- cels of land had been bought, and ten churches and four parsonages built : but in justice he should have added that most of these enterprises were rendered possible only by Dr. Macdonald's gifts from the proceeds of his medical practice. More Letters from Dr. Macdonald. To the letter of Mr. Cassidy, as given above. Dr. Macdonald returned the following answer : "Tokyo, Japan, January Wth, 1894. " Ukv. F. a, Cassidy, M.A., 86 Southmoor Road, Oxford, Eng. " Dkak Mr. Ckssiuy, — Your letter to the Council, and also the one to ine, were duly receiveii anil read at a meeting of the Execu- tive Committee of the Council. I regret that I am unable to nomply with y.mr rei|ue»t that I give you what I ' actually aaid ' when I re|MirttMl the condition of the Shizuoka church to the Executive Coiniuitttte and the relief-measure that I had taken. I remember in a general sense what to:ik place, but if you will kindly send me the n.iine of your iuforinant, and a copy of what he wrote, 1 wi!l8ee him face to face, and then write you, if you still desire it. " In regard to this church alfiir, there is no one 'mud-slinging,' as you term it, as far us I know. I inquired at the Jo Gakko if they knew why Miss Uobertaon wrote you. They knew nothing iiIhiuI the ulfair. Why .Miss Robert ion wrote is known only to her- self, I suppose. " Mr. ilii'iiwa and the trustees were publicly, almost slander- ously fill a.li.paneao nowapaper), attacked on account of the financial eonmtiiiii of tlic church, but your name was not mentioned and you wi'ie not in any sense involved. The fact is, the atfiir had liecome II p:isl issiu! ; no one, so far as I know, was giving the matter a thought, until your letter in the Cuaniian, and your two letters from Oxford, brought it to the front again. " I exceedingly regret that you did not speak with me alraut this atr.iir before you left Japan. 1 woulil have joined with you in its iiiljuAlmeiit, and all that has followed would have been averted. I tiMik action only after full investigation. " I isiid the debt on the ohl cburcb 1,300 To complete the new church 600 yen 1,800 " This amount of 1,S<)0 yen was the amount that hud to be dealt witli uft.'r the old tot was sold, and every cent of ,issets realized and ufiplied. This slaleineiit, I know, does not agree with yours, but this statement is correct. " 1 can assure you, however, that the only feeling that I have in reg.ii-il to this whole mutter is one of thankinliiess that I was able to invcl the absolute necessity that existed in the cose, and so sure uui [ of my ground tliut if it were 10 be .lone again 1 would do it with the leivit {lossible .leluy. " In your letter to the Council you charge me with what amounts to 111 iludiniiustrution. You s;iy, * 1 protest against it * — -that is, my action —'as demorali'ziug to the spirit of in.lependence which we have Inieii trying to cultivate in our churches.' " You feci nggrieved ; I uiii quite willing that the matter should Ih' investiguteii. ! t herefore propose that you make u .diurge against me, uu.l scud a copy to lue, ami lay it hafore Dr. Sutherland. I am willing that you siuMil.l be present to prosecute the cose, while lam ready to fon>go that .idvant.'igc, and deiiend up<)n a brief, supported by dmuin.Mits, which I will forwi.rd. Considerinc all that haslicen sai.l, I shall be glad .if such an opp irtuiiity of vindicating myself, " With best regards, " Very truly yours, "D. Macdonald." Under date of January 29th, 1894, Dr. Macdonald wrote to the General Secretary as follows : " Dkau Dut it required 1,80<) .yen. 1 orisia wu coming. 59 ■tfr: UK UKNERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1895. " Till- trimtwii liKvn Mtwl in u atrftightforwanl, hononlilc manner thriiui^liuut. " 1 ilo nut winli to M,v one word moro ikhout lliii alfair tliUi i> naceaMiy. I, liuwvvcr, liavu Iw iniivnl* covvrlnK llie whole n)altei', and not iIip leant iiii)MirlHnt aii' tlio letters iif Mr. C'miBiily himself in June Inr*. It m, after all, a surt of a 'lempeat in a tvaiHit. No one'* ni«r.>l rharai'ler la aflVcteil, but if there U to lie en in<|uir}', it alioiilil Iw at the Mipaion HiMinia. It woiilil do harm hero. " I am iiiirr) ,voii have to l>« troubled with «uch matters." y*es»aiy, aiul I wtitild not take ) aek the statements, or any one of tbam, that 1 maile in my letter to you at that time in regard to the matter. Kven smm after my arrival hire the last summer I couUI see the general trend of the affair pretty well, and I was conv:neeil that stime immetiiate action was called for to abate the financial and moral luin of the church, Wiien I saw the I'nistec Uoi'iil three tlmi'S and the C,h>ai tcrly Ifenrd once. Just think of th« a|!air as 1 saw it at that time. They paid yen 7i.'.tl8 already furtlic inteirxt cm yen l.lK'tl (which iathedebtin the bunit ci.uich) out Iif the liiiihling fund of the picMUt cliurcb. bnd some more yen tor interest wci-e due ill that time. 1 hey Inirtowed yen .SOO tiom Mr. t assidy at the tine of dtdicatiou of the burnt church, which lliev wn>iigly imsgintd was for a very longteini, but was deve. These \W yen had Ihm'U accumulating siiue .-\ugi;st of 181)2, and the jng so by the incrt-efeof mentiHrsliip and by the increased lilandity of (ho old membei-s j it was, by ilie way, a ho|H' iigainst hope at tliise tiniea. And so, how much lens to doanvthiiig with the ileticiency of the buililing fund. The Trustee am^ (Quarterly III aids did not n^cal these real states of the tinance. both for the (.rtinaiy running c\|M'nses ami the building fund, to the ]ieoplc in genmil, lest tlicy l-e disi^niraged and ijersuadcd to ilcscit the ehureb : yet, at the same time, tliey cnubl do nothing themselves, ami Were entirely at their wita" end. They were simply anticinat- ing si'iiie unfortunate eriipiion at some time as the work of building ailvanceit. and were wishing to have the time poMt|ioned hh far its ]Mwsiltself ; for, aiippoaing the eliiinh coubl have laen built witliuul any dilHculty. if the I.OCO yen la> not (laid, and the church linanco in the way of running e\|«iiises Im' not brought U|i .inii p. it on a safe Inisis. t^iey could not make a move, and worse still, the chiindi would !»• divided into three bitter |iailies : those who lielong to the Trustee Ha«rd j|(oing to serate "ll'orts tn pay the debt of 1,000 yon oltat the coat of every other iuterest of the church, and that lor many ,\ears tontme, as they have no means of their own ; those who I elong in the t^iKirterly Hoard would endeavor to adjust the ortlinary cimrcli tinance only by themselves and by their own de- vicea i and then the (leople in general might lose sympathy for the rhureh, out of mistrust and ilespair, audi lostly go away, and the piwlor be left with some hamlful of (leoplc nith the large lieaulifiil church, while the outsiders would not come in tn Iw entangleil with ■ueb an unpleasant state of afTairs. This s<>ems tn lie what they pioturml to their own mind, if thiue assistances had not been given ^t all. I cannot tell whether aueh shnuld have lieen inevitable or nut ; but I am sure a ruin in roino form waa inevitable, ai I heard Bonie bitter whis|H'riiigs and some indicatbins of some runaways; but when the general meeting of the church waa held ami I told the whole financial conditions frankly, aa well ■« the ways and means to meet them, the spirit of the church was revived, and the pleas- ant feelings were restored. Ami now, as the result, peace, union and good- will on all sides iiieyail. " Now, 1 will give you the direct answera to your questions. By the way i must tell you frankly that I translated your two letters into .lapaiiese, and showed them to the members of the Trustee Poard, so as to get the iinsweis from their mouth directly and exactly to the joint. If I did lictray your eoniidence, please par doll my freedom. The follow ing are, t herefore, their own answers ; " I. The trustees did nol become responsible to pay yen 1,000. that is, " (II) They ilid not intend to pay the money themselves ; " (fc) lliey did not become personally responsible for the money ; " (r) Iliey, however, did not and could not expect to get sub- scriptions from the .'•hizuoka chureli to pay the money, and conse iiuently hud not the subscriptions for it at all ; " ((/') They exiiccted to pay the n nney out of the proceeds of the sale of the old church property (the lot ahine, as it waa after the buibliiig was burnt by the lirst lire), and of the magic lantern shows, which they intemlcil'to make in the cities of t^hizuoka and Nagoyii. ami in the intei vi niiig towns, by iHirrowiiig the instrument from the t'entral Talxrnaclc. Ily the first they ex|iecle('. to realise alioiil 70O or WKI yen, ami by tlie second, alxiut 'JOO or 300 yen. Km IhiIIi proved'to be a dream, as tlit'V found out afterwards that the lot uus not worth moic than .'IIIO yen, and they could not try the other at all. "(•) The money was not borrowed at Mr. C'assidy'a auggestion. but he knew ami seconded the action. At first the money was to be borKiwril on mortgage of the new church-building from a bank, and a morlgiige-dceil Has jireparrd (thus far Mr. Casaidy is said In have FccoiiiTcd the nioMuiei t and known all the talks), when one of the trustees (Mr. Vmcuawa'i, not feeling it easy to make n mortgage of liial's chiirih, sli) |h'l Faying that it was then the time to put the church on murtgat:i ami get llii- money, as it wss the first intention of the trustees to ili> •' II. If the trusleis . ould gel the yen 1,1.00, the money was not to be used on the building of the piesent church, but used on tlw payment of the debt on the bunit cliiirch entirely, as the l,C00 yen was purely the debt in connection with the burnt church. Ko tli< l,tK)U was to be paii' on ashes. "III. 'I he assist unci was exceedingly necessary. The asaiatam < not only jiaid tin- bail debt and completed the building, but abo averted the moral ruin of the church, and restored the union aii'l gCMid fei'liiig of the |MHip)o. "The trustees »ere v illiiig to writeyou themselves these anaweis. if iiccessiiiy : but I siciil to them it was not necessary, as the lettei^ were pri\ate between \c>ii iiti'l me and 1 was to answer. In eon elusion let me say that nobody, either Mr. Caaeidy or Mr. Kcdiiu ashi. or the Trustee Poanl as a whole, *ii'as to be much blamed fct the alH>\e tiiiumial confusions, as all of thim did their best, 1 am hiirc-. ititclcr the i irciiinstances— unexpected tires, diteouragement.^. and 'oudisions create il thereby, all wind' forced them to (To thiii):- a.i tln-y kiih lorthe niciment, a-id not with foresigbr, cool judgment and positive (stimntis. That is my judgment and feeling of tin caai". "The facts, liowever, remain the same, and it is la-ttcrnot to try to mend th m in any shape. I am thankful that I came here in I) > midst of such »«,t, "f nll.-iirs and could do something, though it wa- not very pleasant to my • weak llesh ' at the time. ' Yours very truly. 'Y. IIIKAIU A." This closes the documentary evidence with regard to the Shi/iinka rhureh affair. (Mil. .1. A. M. .•\iKiNH--T would ivak to Iw permit.t«{H 1 ^ oiiiiiiexioiiiil piiporH. 1 Wdiilcl ask the eonimitt«! Ui [x-riiin me to iiriieiid that liy putting it in fliesp words: "Tlid tln> reprcsi'iitiitivi's of tlio conncxioniil jiHpeirH Iw |K'nnilti il to lie present itiiil txi report the pi'oce<<.iiiiKH, uftirr con ,ull.i tion with the tioueral SuiH'rinteiidpnv." It auiountH pno tieiilly to the wuiic thing. Tiiii ('ii,\inMAN--l would NUggoat that ytiu Htrikn oni the won I " (ii'iioriil Siiperintendpnt " altogether. I thinl- the erfi'oni uic peifcL-tly c-ompctent to attend to tli.ii liUNineNh H PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 69 Mr. A1KIN8 — I would be mjra pleased to do that. Thk CilAiRMAV — I would Hivy to anyone present, hiivinx pnsse;! the rasulution we liavo, that the meeting is opsn to all menibers of the Society, ladies and gentleuien, all raein- heM of our Missioniry H icioty, and of course we will all 1)8 interested in knowing who are memVjers ; if parties appear who are not, and attention is called to the mittor, the chair will call the attention of the parties onncarnod especially. Our brethren from the city can help us in that matter. Adjourned at 12 o'clock. Committee on the Whole resumed at 2 o'clock. After devotional services the Rev. I>r. .Sutherland (iroo ',e,!el with the reading of his Review as follows, and cosed at 5 o'clock p.m.] : XL— STRIFE AMONC. THE MISSIONARIES. How it Began. " The beginning of strife," says Solomon, " is as when one letteth out water ; therefore leave off contention before there be .inarrelling." Had the wise man spoken as a prophet instead of a proverbial philosopher, there would be room for thinking that he had his eye on our Japan Mission. Not one of us knew when the trickling, almost invisible stream began to flow; perhaps the missionaries did not know it themselves, and so when it became known that there were wide estrangements and embittered feelings among them — that the tiny rill had become a flood that threatened to sweep away the very foundations of the mission — great was the surprise and dismay in the Home Beard. For a length of time earne.st efforts were made by means of cor- respondence to allay irritation and restore harmony, and at one time it was hoped these efforts had succeeded, but soon it was perceived that the trouble was ?s bad as ever, and that peace could n i^ oe restored till some of the contestants were withdrawn from the field. To me it has always seemed that the causes of the strife were, at the beginning, of the most trivial kind, but I find that this opinion is not shared by some, at least, of the mis- sionaries themselves. I have been told by one of them that the causes of the difficulty were of a serious character from the first, and such as neither forbearance nor explanations would be likely to remove. Perhaps this Board may be able to find out from some of the parties themselves just what are the real facts in the case ; but it still seems to me that there was a time in the history of the dispute when a little tact and forbearance on the part of those more immediately con- cerned would have reduced friction and brought about a bet- ter understanding. .\s might be expected, the correspond- ence does not throw very much light upon the origin of the troubles ; it only casts a somewhat lurid gleam upon cer- tain occurre ices which indicated very strained relations aniong the missionaries, without making it very clear how the misunderstandings came about. Factors in the Dispute. From what has already been said in the preceding part [of this review, it will not surprise anyone to learn that the (Tabernacle looms upas a factor in the disputes, and that 'Dr. Eby and Mr. Cassidy seem to be connected, more or (less prominently, with the whole ditViculty. In fact I am upiite clear in my own mind that if these three factors could I have been eliminated, there would have been no disputes I at all, at least of any moment. This remark applies to the [ fri( tion between the two Mission Councils, for in regard to Ii8t of this Coumil that you I pen a branch of your Mission in that section of the ( ity, to tie located at Hongo, in the vicinity of t'le Tal'ernaclc, ami that ladies l>e ap|>ointed to reside there from the larliist pos sible date, so as not to lose the opportunities of thir, season ; and that they devote their time to work in connection with our fi ur churches in the eastern side of the city, viz.: Central Tabernacle, Ishigimie, Kunagonie and Shiiaya, with their branches, giving ei>pecial attention to the (Viitral 'r»biriiac.e." Turning back again to the resolutions passed l)y the Mission C'ouncil of the 1 iL-ncral Socieiy on .SeptenilR-r (jth. 1892, 1 find, in addition to those already given, the following : " It was moved by Mr. Casaidy, seconded by l>r, Kby, and resolved. That in view of the great opportiinitit^s otfciing for evangelistic work in the eastern side of the city in connection with our churches at Shitaya, Cshigoine. Kanagoiiie. hiiiI espec- ially in the Centi-nl Tabernacle ; and wlierims we have ii|iplied to our mission of the Wupian's Missionary .Society here, and tlity have found it impracticable to do what appears to us to be esKi'iitial U> success; "Therefore, we unanimously and earnestly rdpiest the (iii.eral Board or the Committee of I'lUisiiltiitioii and Finance, to a)>point at least one foreign lady to this work, to reside in the nei'.'hliorhiMid of the Tiibomacle. ".And further, we have much pleasure in recommending Miss Ada Lt. .Iiihiison, who is wel|.|ini>wn to us as an experienced and remarkably succesriul worker in .lapaii, vvho is a Methndist formerly ccmnected with another mission here, and now on furlough in America, and disconnected with the former mission (the Evangelical A.«ocialion) through no fault of hers " It is the decision of the Council that this resulution remain dormant unless the previous resolutii>n and ap|>lication to the ladies for workers should fail, and that in case u\j said applica- tion fails, we hereby instruct the chairman to forward this resolution at once with such explanation as may be necessary." A Favorable ll'iily tiul K. -peeled. From the preamble, as formerly recited, it appears that in Dr. Eby's statement special rei'erei.ce was made to the atti- tude of the Woman's Missionary Society toward the Taber- nacle work. Just what that attitude was is not quite dear, but from some allusions in corresjwndenre of that d.-iic, and in recent letters recalling the facts, it would appear that while Dr. Eby desired the ladies to open a second centre for their work in Tokyo, in the neighborhood of the Tabernacle, they were not inclined to comply, but [ireferrcd to send such help as was practicable from the centre already estab- lished at Azabu, a part of the city three or four miles dis- tant from the Tabernacle. It would appear, also, that when the President and Secretary of the Woman's Missionary So- ciety were in Japan the year before, a meeting of the Woman's Council was held, at which a deputation from the Council of the Cieneral Socieiy appeared to press for lady mission- aries .It Hongo,* and it may be the ojiinion of the ladies, as then expressed, was not altogether favorable to Dr. Eby's scheme. .\t all events, it is clear, from the resolutions already ipioted, that Dr. Eby and Mr. t.'.issidy did not expect a favoraiile reply from the ladies, and hence threw out an anchor to windward by an applicati . to the General Hoard to apjioint a I.idy worker. WhiU the iro»i«n Said. The re(|iiest came before the Council of the W'oman's Society ill due course, and on the 14th of September, 1892, the following reply was sent : "AzABi-. Tokyo. Seiitrmlier Wh. 1892. 'Rkv. Or. M.'.eiPoN*!.!!, Chairman of the Japan Council of the Methodist Church. " l)K.tK Sib, At a meeting of the Kxecviive of our Council, held yesterday, your resolutions were received, and the fcdiow iiig la our leplv to your re(|ue8l for the estftbi shing of a branch of our work in the eastern part of the city of Tokyo ; " Vou will have it upon your minutes that this subject was laid befiire the I'lesidei.t and Secretary nf uur society by the deputation which waited n|>on us during their visit here. We learn from Miss I'artmell that our I'resident and Secretary con aider tint yMV prop< scd changes in our work are now beyond our power ; said proposals having been laid before them, they are matters to be (hall with l>y the (ieneral Hoard of the Woman's .Missionary Society. It only remains for ua to forward your latest conimiinicalioii to the E>e<'uti\e of the Wimian's Missionary Society. " 'I'he policy of the Woman's Missionary .Sm-iety ia to establish strong ••••litres fniu which to wor.. with a view to developing self reliant inlive helpcis. Ihej' have i heerfully, and at great C(>st, e.sta'ib.diid our centre in 'fokyo — the home and school in Ambu. \\ e feel it our duty to lay before the Kxeculive, and you also. (Pur view of the work. " rile idijecis liefore us are, the training of native helpers and the reaching of the homes. To reach these we havi' limited resources, human and material. The work of the mis sioiiary miisi be largely contined to the inNtructicui of those wh.> ran reach the homes. The best use of our material resiiiirces will be in keening the workers together, so that the lai-gtr number shall lie alile t^' give their /ii/? time to Hchisil and eviiiii!^listic woik. DuriiiK the present statu of public opinion. ami whde our building in .A/jibu has room sulticient, wo would no> feel juslilied ill asking < Dible-wiimeii may reside, and where they and the missionary may give inslructioii to those they may gather about them. "W e think it due tii state, further, that when the time come.s fipr advising ••ur llipard to establish a new centre, some ;«)int shoiilil Im! chosen where W(pman's work is entirely neglecteil In Tikyo every demuninaiiipn is at W(prk, and we are tohl that several are represented in the district referred to in your resolutippii. "Trusting that this statement of our policy will connnond itself to your juilginent, " I remain, yours sincerely, " Ki.iZA S. IjARiik, " (7irtiii/Kiii«/(/ic Omwilufthe tV.il.S. of Canada." Three tlays laicr Mrs. Lirge again wrote to Dr. Mac (lonald, as follows : " I shoulil liavesiaied in my communication of throe day^ ago, that we have decided the amount of time we can allow .1 missipiiiaiy lady to dev^.te to Hongo Tabernacle. A lady will spenil Siiiipiay there, and two il.iys n week ; meetings held or visiting dipiie, as tlippught best after consultation. In mlditiipii to this «c pnipose to put two liible-women to work there and • Ttiin wa> not the main olijuu ot tlix ilrpiituliw. ■' A li»nnonioii« kIJuh' iippni ipI thf .-.prli, ami a mtUhicUir} iimltntuiding bttweiib llie worken," i« whal tile rrauliiuuti a}i«ttka ot. 66 PROOEEDINQS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 71 , that when iisiunary So- he Woman's thu Council ady mission- he ladies, as to Dr. Eby's resolutions idy did not hence threw the General lie Woman's •iiiber, i8g2, Will. 1892. Council of our Council, I the follow if It hnincli kyo : la ■iihjvct wii.s iocit'ty hy tliii lit litTe. Wu St'iTt'lary con e now beyond TO tliuni, thvy Uonril of llif us to forwHfcl the WiiMiann in to eKtuhliHli to devvlopin).! )\ iinil At gri'ot ! nnd HcluHil in <^xeculive, ami native hol|iurH livse we liavi' >rk of the \m» iction of thoNi' our materiiii 3r, HO that till' V to Kchool and |iiililie opinion, iunt, wo woulil iih a new home utiiu, >|ied Christiiiii liii'li tluTtfori' jeiiHtic Work of oppri'SHCR thi' in Hi>Mgo, wc outlay f.ir the ere one or twu lui niiiwionnry lout tliurn. he time conien re, Bonie ;>oint rely nofjlected. ) are told that id to in your will connneml iS'. ij/(V<»iarfy had three foreigners assisting him at the Taber- nacle — an organist, an Organizing Secretary (both men), and a Isdy, Miss Gushing, whose efforts among the women were very successful, but whose health gave way under the strain of excessive work, and she had to resign. Action of the Home Hxmutivf. At a meeting of the Executive, held in April, 1893, it seemed clear from correspondence which had been received, chiefly by the officers of the Woman's Missionary Society, that very unfriendly relations existed between members of the two Councils, and the Secretary was instructed to press upon the missionaries the importance of hearty cooperation in the work, which he did in the following letter, addressed to Dr. Macclonald : "Mkthodiht Mi.ssn)N Rooms, "Toronto, April IH//1, 1893. " Dkah DoiTOK, — At the ineetinR of our Missionary Coni- niittee held on the l'2tli inst., the lulation of the \Vonia::'ii Missionary Society and iti worke s to our own kiecnniu the sub- ject of convemation. Very little iiiforinatioii wax available from your correspondence ; the roaaon for which appears to be that members of the Mission Council had challen^O(l your right to give information to the Missionary Secretary or the Com- mittee other than what might appear in the resolutions adopted by the Co mcil. The Executive of the Woman's Miisionary Society, '■ iwever, had been kept fully inform -d of all that was transpiring, and the jiresenco of Uro. Hiviinby enabled us in gome measure to supply the lack of direct correspondence. After careful consideration of the whole i|ue8tioii, the following resolution was adopted : " 'The Committee deeply re^jjret the strained re'ations that have arisen between the members of our Mission Council and of the Woman's Missionary Society, which we think might have been avoided by a little mutual forbearance ami coiwidoration. We hereby instruct the (icneral Secrot'»ry to impres* upon our missionaries in Japan the iniportftnce and desirableness of friendly consultation and hearty co-operation with the mem- bers of the W-h lead us to desire an investigation of the work of tho Woman's Missionary Society in Hongo, {ind of the ciusoi that have forced our withdrawal ; therefore, " Hesoiffd, —That we ask the Council of the General Board to make ariMii^iements for said investigation, and to appoint a time which will give sufficient notice to allow the members not resi- dent in Tokyo to be present." This resolution was forwarded to the Council of the Cieneral Society, P'ebruary 4th, 1893, ami elicited the follow- ing re,ily : "In reply to your communication and request of .January JUth, it was unanimously resolved : ' ' That as no definite charges are before us, and no facts known which require an investigation, we deem it unwise to go into such investigation, especially since it would give unneces- sary publicity to matters which belong to the two missions only. If there are any charges which need investigation, wo are pio- jiared to consider them ; but we are of the opinion that as the only matter i not to have a seat in the Council of that idy p n'iiM this agreement." The pro^xisal was accepted by the Council of the (leneral Society, as the following resolution shows : "Thnt tlw pi(i|»>atl mailo hy the Chairman of the Connril of the .faimn Mismon of tlio Woman's MiBBionary Socioty, i>' ))ro vi(lin); for the woman h work of thu t'onirid TulKriiaclo, lie cor- dially accepted, and in ucuurilaiict' therewith thia Committee request thas Misa Cushii ^ be set apiirt to thnt work." A copy of this resolution was sent to Miss Cushinj;, and in replv .she expressed her willingness to go to Hoiigc. When the matter came before the Woman's C'luncil, it appears that the members of that body, while adniiaing that Mrs. I.arge's proposal was the only way out of the difficulty if I'r. Eby's policy was to be followed, were strongly opposed to the scheiii'! on other grounds, as their action shows, taken May 9th, 181)3 : " Whereas past experience liaa proved to us that it is impos- sible for us to work in Honxo Talwniaole work acoordins; t*i Dr. Eby's methods and maintain the present policy of mirt'i'uncil -a |K>licy thnt continues to recommend itself— and nppn-ciiitini; the needs of woman's work there, we are of the opinion thiit the compromise pmpoKeropriatiuns niiule, save those sent liy our Coun- cil through its Secretary. (This latter reijuest is in the event of this plan being followed). Hut we hvg to slate thnt, as mem- bers of the Methixiii'4 Church of Canada, we protest afiiaiimt the unjUNtiliable expentliture of nu>nfly tha' must follow such an arranRenient. •' We beg further to say that we are more fully convinced now than ever before thnt the work can be better done from Aukbu (in view of the expenditure called for), with a Bible- woman's home in Hongo aa a centre. " Having recorded the above protest, nml stateil our unHill- mi2inH8 lo have the funds for which we are accoiinlable iiseil in such a way, we beg lo state that if thiHconi|iromisu be iiccejvted, we diBclaiiii all respoiisibilily therein. ' The compromise appears to have been frustrated, for the time being, by the resignation of Miss Gushing before the arrangement could be carried out. />r. McifAonnld't I'roposalii. I am not aware whether any action, based on the fore- going resolutions, was taken by the Woman's Council ; but I find that one month later the lollowiiig letter was addressed by Ur. Macdonald to Mrs. Large ; Tmi'KIJI, .U.in/, l(/i, IHIU. "Deak Miw. I.aiioe, — The following action w«h taken by the Executive of the ('oiincil nt its liiht meeting. It has been sent to the memhera of the Council out of Tokyo, anf sight and memory. " ' We have not the sliKliest wish and intention to interfere with your(,lnpan Mission of the Wiminna Missionary Society) ■Milonomy as » mlHsiun. " ' We should be \i\m\ if we ouilil have a united meeting of the Iwo misHioiiH. not for lontrol, but for consultation, in order to consider the needs if the work and utilize uur atrength to the utmost. " ' V'e feel that n meeting of thia kind could atlvanLigeoual^ be hehl nt the time of the meeting of the .Annual Conference. If other iiieetiiiKs were iiec<»sary, Ihey oould be held on call. "' If the ladies could hold their annual meeting at Ihe time and iilace of the holdtiiK of the Ar.n.inl (Nmference, the presence • ' thi iiidies HoiiM add an itilerest to the Ciii'^rence, nml tl'< ' lit^Hl ,irce would i'< iistitute a deinonstrai i P i.ial wo„)d ^j of ,.ptii .' advan'age ■ '^ suKgeat I lei.e ideim -xs .. basis for harmonious work in ••'"I tutui 1', and we beg to siihuiil them to the Council of tlu' , w Mlsaion of the Woman's MisMionnry Society for con- ration.' " Faithfully yoiira, " D. Maciionali)." This communication was considered by the Woman's C(uiti(il at a tnecting held March nth, 1893, and thr following answer w.is promptly sent lo Dr. Macdonald by Mrs. I jrge ; " Dkas I)h. Mai tioNAi.i', The following unanimous action was taken kl a noeliiiK of our Council, hehl Match 11th : "'111 repi,' to yi.iir i ummunicaiion of Itlaich lat, we, too. have ileeply refiretted the estrangement which haa existed between the two n Isaiins duriiiK the [>ast few inonlhs. We •hall he K lad lo put the past out of siKh* and nicnior}', and li' meet yimr Coiiniil in eoiisiiltation respecting the work. " ' lUir we feel that the proiioaitioiiaconlnincd in clauses three and four must be consulercd nt a lime when all our members are present, namely, at our annual meeting in July next.' "Should you deem it desirable for the two Kxceutive (■ommitties to meet in the meantime to disciisa the matter, with n view lo a clinr understiindiiii;, we shall be moat happy to do so at ni.y time. " Yours sincerely, " Eliza S. Laiioe." An F'lfortunate CoiUretemiHt. It seemed as if evciything was now on the way to aii amicnlile adjustment, but unfortunately at this junctuic ;i private letter was addressid by Mr. Cassidy lo Mrs. Large, which had the cflfect of arresting further progress in the way of rociin< illation, and stiiriiig up very bitter feelings. The letter is as follows : "Tokyo. Ai>rtl CM, 181(3. " Dear Mbk. '..akiik, - h'or au hour or more yesterday morn iiig I lay wnitini; for ristiin lime, and thinking over all that you (li'iie through dining the past seven years. Very, very do 1 think of you, and very, very ileeply do 1 feel for yiui. Iiav ofiei Tii NiraiKhten out all tlie dilticultiesand misunderslundiiiKs that linie arisen animiK us, our two missions, would be an almost endless tank, if ponsible at all. But to strike straight at the Mot of the Iroiihle and cure it. at once, nppeaia to me ns ets) and .simple as anything could be. So I am Kotllg lo sny to you, ill the simpluat :\rn\ most ce shed blood for you if n<.ce8 sary. Many others too were just 'is faithful. But a happy uiiange came when you entered umrried life. You then h^l n noble natiiiid protector, ami voii were at rest. Thoie won' joyous .lays; but Wnlowhoisl left you more than i^vcr l> lone Woman in a hard worhl, .uid liorh-n« doubly sensitive to its trials. "Then self protection was taken up more vigorously than over. Knemiea seemed to rise out of the ground. Again I wna in the corps. Well I icmeinbei the needless efiorta we made to foil in-aginary enemies. Ijiter on a cl.iser organization and a a more i.erfeet biKlyKUar.1 lelt me out. The phuntom grew more real. Kiiemies seemed to multiply, and prernutiona weri' increaamgly necessary. Now ihii hat become aehronio diieiue, 58 !^a*^^EL PROCEEDIMOS RE JAPAN AKFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 73 and the pn-tnofori uro nw tlioniu/lily in aytiipatliy with ynii tliut your I'fiili'r iiprvu* «uoin In llimh in tho i«ry «itrcmiti«» of thu corpH. (^iilrkcr thitii thu nniil. or thu huiuinvt of thu hitid iirt thi) pt oiil_, roiirae by which yon eim In- rescued from your tryiuij poaition, iiml aiivuil to the work. Thia ii'pro aents my own mdividiml coiiviciiona only. Hut I atron^ly lioliuvu tliHt uiileaa you citii {{ut rid of thia duluaion, thuru ia no hope of your ruriiiiinin^' hero with comfort to yoiiraulf or |irolit to thu Aork. I*luiiau daniiian." Action oj lh« lVoman'» Uovncil re 3{i: Caiaidt/i Letter. Mr. Cassidy's .'etter soem> to have aroused the indigna- tion of the Udies in no ordiiary degree, for at a meeting on March nth, 1.S9.J, they adc (iteil the following : '•Moved by Miaa Munro, (ireonded by Misa 0. E. Hart : Wo , regrot thiit hucause of Mr. Caasidy's uiicalled-fov eommiiiiicii- I tiona of a periional ohaincte to our ('hairman, under the cloak ' of privacy, iiiaiihinK in thei ■ tone (directly to hor and by infer- ence to us aa n C'ouiicil), and also in cuiiseiiuoncu of Mr. (.'aaaidy'a jiroaont attitude towards the work of the W.M.S., all of wliii'h teiiila to create hiller feelin)(, ia op|>osed to a desirable spiritual condition, am) conaumes the time and Btrungth that coul I and would otherwise be xiven to the work of thu Loril to wliiih we have Iteun called. In order to prottut tho beat inturesta of our work, and also our ('hairiiiaii from further punumal insult, we are forcef these are quoted here, as covering the wholt-.. (: lur ■ In the first Mr. Cassidy vigorously comhats ^e a' of the Woman's Council; in the second h>' . 'Ve- i.;, imende honorahle for his first letter to Mrs. two letters : " .Shuiok '(?f. 'Ihese are the Ai, yXt . 181)3. •• Til the EjrnUive Committee i>f the. ( ■iieU cf the W.M.S. : " Dkak Laiiip,.s, I am in receipt i' .unmiinication of the nth inst., and be)< to reply as fo. .yi -fn the first jilace my buing A human being ought to entiile 1110 to the treatment due to an ordinary criminal. In the second place ao long aa I am reoognixed and accredited by the miaaionary authoritiea and the .lajjan Methodist Conference, I ought not to be regarded as auch an utter outcaat aa that ihere might not posaiiily be audi a residue of maiilinoas and honor loft aa would cimi|iel mo to corrocr. an insult or crime againat a lady, if proper atepa were tJiken to convict me of auch a crime. ' >n my part 1 do not for a moment think that [ am at war with a lot of hopelesa ahruwa. I lielievu I am in a bad tangle with a lot of iioblu and reapoctable ladies who a'o working for thu glory of (iod, and who are my aiatera in the (iospel. J beg to protest that on your part, too, there ought not to be auch an utter aban.lomunt of aUowanco for thu Icaat aeiise of decency or honor, until I have become a condemned apostate and outcaat at any rate. I think that if we follow corrucl buaineaa muthoda, even in our wrath and indig- nation, we may find a way out of our dithculties which would leave nothing very diagraceful or linmiliatiiig for future contem- plation. To do thiiiga properly, therefore, I ilemand : '■]. That you apueify more clearly the points in which I have insult«d your Ohairman. Communications in writing are ao capable of an entirely different interpretation that I think, before being condemned, 1 should have a brief atiktoinent of juat what you consider insulting. I am utterly at sea as to why you aliould mention ' coinmunicationa ' in tho ]ilaral. "2. I demand that you withdraw entirely thu aocond count in your charge, and Noa. '2 and 3 in your ruaolutiona, on the ground that I deny there being any ditficiilty between the ladies here and myaelf which roi|niros any interference on your part, to say nothing of auch unrcaerved condemnation. " I submit that your No. .') is insulting to me not only poraon- ally, but olliiially as Chairman of tho district. It impliea that I am leaa worthy of contidence and reaped than my own students and inex|ierienced uv.ingelista under my cliurge. It ia going out of your way to cut and insult the otiicial head of the District. It ia carrying the war into my own Held where there is no ensKs liilli. I call upon thu ladies here to auatain mo in thia. How would you take it if the Japan Cimfereiice or my District or any other body would undertake to ofKi'ially set your authori/.cd head aaido, and ' inatrnct ' its members to deal through her sub- ordinates? " 1 moat reapoctfiilly beg you to consider those points, and I shall wait until the mail of tho 21at inat. before sending any reply or protest to Canada, so as to allow you ample time to do yourself justice in tho matter. " Yours respectfully, "F A. Cas-sipy." 50 74 OKNERAL BOAUl) OF MISSIONS, IHOft. Mr. Cauidtf A/>uloyiift, Four vc letter, Mr. CftMidy again addrcMC* the Itidies of the Worjmii'ii ("ouncil •• follow* : 8nut'.Atii>n of Kiiy f iiui with rttl;'«r»iicu tu my Utttur Ui ymi nf tliu Orli mat., I \>»n !'■ •okn<>w!.u(l)((i ; " I. TImt the letter heiii« wrilt»n inforiiMJIy »ntl iiiKilHoinlly «M enUri'ly tuo nlinipt. hiiiI iitn>ii)( in i'X|irt'Miiioii, niiil Ri'vcrnl tliiiiK* III It wvro ritiNtlile nf iiiifnviiruMt' iiiii'i'|iriy oiiiittiiiK t.> iitiilti till' riiiilrniy I Bi'i'iiiml tu lay all tlio Illume nil ymi for uiir pruHeiit ililliiMilium. 'I'liii i-ert»ilily wiiiilil )hi uiiftiir uliil iiiijiint '•;i. Thnt I iMitiiely iivetliinkiiil ilm dulii ut wliiili I sent it, tliua LilviiiH ynii uiiiiecuiinHry |iniii, wliirli I i)(iut. "4. TImt It wu not iiooouarily my iliily tu wrilu mioli n jotter to yiiii itt nil. " I Iiereiiy e«|ireHM my •mcere »iul lioBrly ri'Hrel for nil tlienu erriim »iiil ovrmiKli'*. hh'I "i""' miu'crely u|ii'lo(|i/(> for llieiii. Anil iiioiwiver, fur the rw«oii» i»l>'i\c itoieil, 1 lii'tj to willnliiiw the letter enti.'ely. " I iiiiiHl. Iiowovor, iimiiit on the withdrHWiil of Niw. 3 ami M of yiiiir ri'HoliilioiiH of the llth in«t , miil the |mrt of your lirenijilile whu'li lu-i une* me of »n mifiivorttlile iiltiliiile to your Work. " I niiiiit hUo pf'tcit Haiiiiint any action lieinij taken liy your Coiiiieil or Ktiriilive Coiiimiitei' iipon iiiattrr* in «liuli I imi uotuenit'il III my olliuiiil caimcily, Iwifore ilii|iiiiy linn l>eeii iiiiiile, anil I Irivu lieeii duly iiotilied of the t;har|{eit iiinde iiuaiiiit inn " Hi>|iinK that you will foi|;ive the erroiH and oiiiiiuhiiiii thnt I have iiiaiie, and believe me to he moiit iiliu'et'e in tiyiii^ to ractify whatovor I have done wroii«. " I reiiiaiii, "Sincerely yourt, "F. A. Oahhipy. " P.8. — I he^ to Kckiii>wledi(u your eoniinuiiiealioii of yeater- day, whioh haa juiil eniiie. and I thank your Kxi'eiitive for their pnmlitiiesii in withilriwiiiu clmiae No J of their re«oliition» of the Uth iint. 1 lliiiik it ia uiiKeiierou», lio'vever, to lnwe llie withdrawal on the removal of • Imi-riera to harmonious workiiii;,' NoeiiiK I hail to ko to Tokyo to hear of the liarriera. The reardulion wi.a tutaed on my iittiliide only. ' I atill iiiHiit on a moditieation of your (irenuihle ao ai to eliminate a oliarxe a)(ainat me of hiuIi 'altitude' an in there iliwerihiwl. Alt <-"l. airman of the Shi/.iioka Dialrirt I iiuinot aix'ept clauae No. :i of your roAolutloim iinleaa yiMi iiicliiili' the Chairmaii of the diatrict aa well. I a|>«ak fur iiiyaeK and for my aucCBMur, whoever he iiiay lie. " Yourt Biiiuurvly, *• K. A. Camiuv." J/ow I hi ll'oH»«« Jifivivx'i il. On receipt of the first of these two letters the Executive of the Woman s Council took action as follows ; "Mr.l.'aaaidy'ncoiiiiiiiinieAtion of the l4thhaviiiKlHieli received, It wai uninimiMixly reaolved, tlioUHh we have had no eommiiiii cati m from tliui^hi/.iioka hidieN, " That we expreoa our exiri'iiiu pleasure with Mr. ('.ksaidya asHiirnme tint all liarriera In ilie way of harmonioiit workiiix have been reniovwl lietwecn him' /*#• Hiinihfts of Ihe h'.vttulivt Commitltt of the Wnmari'. .\li\sioMary Soiiely ot Ihc- MelhoMit Church of Canada ; " Dl^AK l.AlHl s, K.iKlit years ano lod.iy I ieft my home in I'aris, 1 tnt, under appiiinliiicnl from ymi to iiiission work in Japan It iii,iy tie a mere sentiment, but I have purposely chosen this d.iy to formally lender you my resiK-n.itinn.of which you li:ne alie.idv hcaid from your Ciirrespimding .Secretary and I'Ktident. " 1 am ,o)nf>e//iiit<> tender this resignation, and ask that yon will set me at liberty at the end of this schmil year June 30II1. "In thus temleiing my resign.ition liefore my term is com pleied, 1 ,1111 aware th.it I must pay my own return expense^ and whatever ymi choose to decide of my ex|ienses to Jap.iii two ye.irs ano (it will be iwo years at the lime asked). " 1 will slate a> biieliy as pos^ible my reasons for the above It IS not fioiii choice, but, as said before,! am toiiif>elleii. U h.is been st.ited on several occasions during the last six month-, ih.ii the work among the women (.is done by your agents) h.is been, to a gre.it extent, a failure ; that the reason of this i, the undue .iiiiounl ol mlliiem e .Mrs. Large brings to bear upon the iiieinber> of your I mined here in order to accomplish her own ideas. Il is said th.it Mrs. Large 1 ontrols your .igents. " My years of service here have not been without some marks of success, and I can truly say that my conscience does noi condemn me for the course 1 have pursued, even though tin- above accusation li.is Iwen m.ide. .At the same time, my call I > lapan was to *<•// the work, not to retard it ; and while I can cheerfully bear the responsibility nf the work that is laid upon me, I c.innot be.ir the responsibility of st.mding in the w.ay ol Its pro>;ress and extension. Keeling, as 1 do, that the workers mini be sacriliied rather than thai the work sutk-r, 1 therefoic respccifuUy recpie-,! that you will accept this without furthei ipiestion, and afipoint .someone to lake the position now occu pieii by me. .ind notify me of the ^anie in lime to, as tar as pos sible and prudent in the knowlcdg; of the accusation undei which 1 resign, permit of my giving my successor an insiglii iiilo the work ot bei othcc. " 1 lemaui. dear ladies, yours most respectfully, and wiili smcere thanks for all your kindnesses during the years th.it 1 have represented you in Japan. (Signed) "Hl.lZA S. LARGE." The resignation w.t.s not accepted by the Woman's Kxecutive, and Mrs. l^rge continued her work. Th /fume K.iiu-iititv Contiderg the Silualion. nuriiig the spring of iXiij some repmiin\ •f CilllilJil ; ft my home in MJun work ill ive purp s to bear upon iiccomplish hir Koiir agents. >iit some marks cncc does niu en though tin- ■ lime, my call iind whde I can It is laid upon I Ml the way ol lal the workers tcr, I Iherefoii; Without fiirlhci ilion now occii >, as lar as pos cusation under isor an insight fully, and wiili tie year-, that I I S. Laroe." the Woman's of continued t a meeting iil ire road from lions l)etwet'n miles contain of the Com •A to reply as f previous cor- loes not seem said in former ir missionaries nd a spirit of s between the the Woman'-- conversation ' between tin- lal action was ■. Macdonald Dinmittees ol he pro|)osc(l iticc for th( I of Septeni csults of your I neK"''"'!""' **'''' llir Woman's Missionary Society I'.xecuiive ComnMtlce. I iini sorry to liuvr lo say that not only is the kind nt uofk propox'd by the liidirs of no r.sc 10 llie I aliernru le, liiil I the aclions ol Mrs. I.»t|je and llic .illiiude ol their ( ouin II lure make it iii)|>in'iiljle lur me lo priinit liieni lo have any 1 (iiincc lion with the lalirrnai Ir Hhiiic\ei, >o lon){ as Mrs. I.ai^e is in the lounity ami iliry mainlam their pictent altitude towards oiii (. Hum il mid the Tabi^riiai le. " The liilrr rniK liidcs willi an expression uf great satisfac ition at ilir nppnintmciii of Mr. and Mrs. Cuutes to the I 'I ahcriiacle work. C'f>»(/i ««<■(! httwum lh» Two Xjrfirntivrt. Ill April, 1894, there was a Conference between the j'^x.culives of llie two Ilnards respecting llie allcgi'd want of harmony liclwteii tlu' agents of tlic two Societies in Jiip.in, hut ihi'y did not think the iiilormatioii before th'.Mii was sufticieiit lo warrant any ai (ion at that lime. In a com niunicalioii to l>r. M.nilnnald, riatcd April 27111, iK()4, relcrriiig lo these matters, I s|i()ke as follows ; " At. till' iiu^otinu with till' ladii'K, lo whiih I liavn rofrrrcd in uiiiithcr It'llxr, 11 uiis iilali'il lr. Macdonald, desiring him, among other things, to inform me how matters stood between the two Councils. To this, under date of .May jrd, 1894, he replied as follows: " From the time the Woman's Missionary Society be^an work in Japan, to February 6th, 1886, the ladies met regularly with us in oiir mission meetings. The last ineelinK' they attended Has on ihe ahove date. On impiiry, I find lliat Ihe reason they did not continui' 10 attend was that alter that date they never received any notice of our meetings. In 18S6 the (lencral Conference organized our Council. In Ihe constitution of the Council no provision was made for any representation of the Woman's Missionary Six iety's workers. 1 do not say there should have been ; the point is that the Ladies did not withdraw i from us, but we seem to have, unwittingly, dropped them. " Thinijs went on very nicely until some dilficulty arose be- tween Mr. (.utsidy in Shizuoka and the laHlei there in re||ard to nicthods. I have heaid both sides of the <|ueslion, but I nerd say no more now than that inalleri have fallen into an adjiislmeiii, and in the opinion of tin ladles the atl'airs of their SI liool in Shiiuoka arc on a much more satitlaciory footiiiK than tiefore. "In September, 1(191, Dr. Eby applied lo ihe Woman's Missionary Society for an increase of the force at the Taber- nacle. Mrs. Lar^e told liiiii that their Council was about to meet and that the mailer would be considered, lie replied, ' I do not wish lliis lo be taken ,is a ihreal, but if I do not ^kX what 1 want from you (ineaMini^ help Irom ihe W.M.S.j I will apply elsewhere.' Tlicy seem not to have been able to nieet liM (leinands, for it was after this that be applied to thelieneral hoard to appoint a l.ady to Ihe Tabernacle. I do not know the exient of the Oocior's re<|uirriiieiiis, but I do know that in fixini{ bis mind on his own wmk he is .ipt to overlook the f.ict that other places have needs, .and that we are under limitation as In resources. For example, after Mr. Diinlop had become estab- lished in Nagano, Dr. Kby made up his mind that Mr. Dunlop should leave Nagano and come to the 'Tabernacle, and Mr. iJiinlop was eipially lieni on k'>'uk< ^o that it rri|uircd the stoutcsi resistance to prevent the scheme from being carried out. '• 1 have an idea that if Dr. T'liy had not felt pretty certain of reinforcements from elsewhere he would have made more of the help from the Woman's .Missionary .Society; but the above was Ihe beginning of llie slight ' unpleasantness ' at the Tabernacle which led to the withdrawal of the ladies until an understanding could be arrived at. •' In the summer of i8r;2, Mrs.Clooderham and Mrs. Strachan visited their work here. .Mrs. riooderliam asked me if I knew of diiriciilty between the ladies and some of the members of our Council. I replied lli.il I knew of no special difficulty. Our Council met shortly after, and I found that 1 had something to learn as to the state of affairs. I think that I never saw (|uite so much hre and electricity in the Council as when the attitude of the ladies was di'scussed. I kit astounded, and said only, at the close of Ihe discussion, ' I think the ladies will do belter workiflhey are not (ompelled to pass under the yoke; but considering the feelinx of the Council, 1 lliink a deputation should be appointed to visit ihe lailies' Council while Mrs. (looderhan. and Mrs. Strachan are here.' "The depiil.ition went accordiiifjly, and met the ladies' Council at the Kariuzawa suiiiiner resort. "The deputation, however, did no; ieoiii to have had what ill eoMiiiion parlance is e.illeil a ' '.'ood time;' Mr. ('assidy eoiiiplaineil of it afterwards. I told liiiii that I thought tho resolution which our Council sent to the ladies hail soniuthing .0 do with it that it was well designed lo put the ladies on the defensive, .\fler oxaniiniiig the leHolul ion liu said that it waa uiifor uimtely worded. " Thiii'^H were at a sort of a dead lock. After several months had passed, I asked the ladies what could b'l done to iniprnve the slate of all'aiiH. Thev sai'l, ' You know very well what can be done Cease your ell'orls to subjugate us. ' I then thought iliii 1 would have a talk will Mr. Criiniiiiy • ho was one of tho dei'iitatioii and Has very pronoimeed in his views. " 111 course of the eonversatioii Mr. Crimiiiiy said that as he beeaine aeipiainted with the w.iik of tlie ladies his respect for il iiureased. Me said that he began his connection with the mission at Kaiiu/tawa. The suhnlanee of what he said was that in iei{artl to the work of the ladies, he had been ' stuffed,' Kxeuae Iheslani;, lull, it expresses the idea which he conveyed. 1 told him that I thought I eouhl draw up soiiiething which perhaps would bu aceeupted by all. I drew up thu following, which met with Mr. Crimiiiiy's approval ; " 'Wo reijret the estmngemeiit that has existed between the two iiiisRioiiH for the past few iiioiitliH. We would be ^latl if this past could be pill out of sight .ind meniory. We have not the slightest wish or intention to iiiteifere with your (Japan Mission of the Woman's Missionary .Society) autonomy as n iiiiHsion. We slioidd be ^lad if we could have a united meeting of tho two missioii.s, not for control, hut for eoiiBiiltation, in order lo consider the needs of the work and utilize our strength to Ihe utmost. We feel that a moitim,' of this kind could advantageously be held at the time of the .\nnual Conference. If other meetings were iieeess.iiy they could be held on call, "' If the ladies conlil hold tluar annual meeting at tho time and place of tho hohliiig of the Annual Conference, tho pre- sence of the ladies woul I add an interest to the Conference, and tho united force would constitute a demonstration that would be of practical advantage. " ' We suggest these ideas as a basis for harmonious work in the future, and we beg to subinit them to the Council of the Woniivn's Missionary Society for eonsidi't'ation.' "Tho Executive Conmiitteo of the Mi.ssion Council took action as follons ; " 'Itiforring to the relation of tho Mission of tho Woman's Missionary Society with our mission, it was moved by Dr. Eby, soeonded liy Mr. Oruiiiiny, and unaniiuously resolved, ' ' ' That thu following Htatemeiit bu sunt to tho niumbors of the 61 76 OENRRAL HOARD OF MiasiONS. IHOfl Ciiiiiiril for It oiirri"<|niiiili> Iwlirn iii'rii|iti'r, 1>*II'J, the I'miiicil nf tin Woninirs Mntiiion itry HiK-ietv, of llinir own wKXinl, aont to tliu Mimilon I'oinioil th« following rKHoliitiiiiia " ' Tlint tiiinriifiirwnnl itll |iliin« for nuw liniw of wor«, U'diro IxiinK liiiitlly iIoi'mIi'iI ii|ioii liy mil I'minril. niiiNl Ixi liml iH'fnri' tliii ('uiiiii'il (li'iii ritl lllllt^l Hiiil rui'i'ivii itn it|i|ii'iivitl. " ' riiiil WK »ill iKit M-t'i'ivi' |ir<>|K>>iitiiin for o|H'iiini( new liiuw of work fruin tliii H^i'iiis of llw llmniritl llmtril tiiilcaH mtul pro |nmilioiiN luivi' ri'it'iM"! tliii itpprovitl of thu Coiiiuil of till' (iiiniiritl lii-ititiiry of tliv wmu.' " Hnino of thn inuinbtm of the Miiwioii Council tinik iilfiiiin< nt tho Rwioml rtmoliition, Imt it in ii viiry iiwfiil oiin, nnil I coulil ipiotu It nmrkiil iiuir in illiiHtnilion. It \x ri'iilly l<< pinvxnl hii> onu iiKMiilivrof llif MiNitioii t'oiiiiril from HpiiiixiiiK ,iny >•• iicinii , II iiiiiHl li« coimiiliriil mill .'ippiovi'il liy tlu' Miikioii I'oinii'il to MKMirx lu'tioii on till- pnrt of tlu- IniliuN. " TliKir Hmt ux^xirumou with th«t ttntt rmiolution witi not vi riiKHMiriiiH. " A nomironM Imly iiiiuluniiotfurof fiiiiil«loo|H'n itork in n now pliu'*'. riiuU licN Willi t I'll to ^o to Niigniio, 'iiiil Hoii^litim iiivitution III lu'i'oiilitnrti Willi tlii'ir tir^t ii-hoImIIoii. 'I'lir iiintl4'r<'tiiiii> Imforn t)iu I'otinril Mr Diiiilop, wIm witi KiipuriiitoiKli'iit iiiii); work itt NitKitiio witH liwt. SoniH ronniili'rnlilt' liiiic nlli'rHiirilH Mr. Uiinlop itppliol to llix l;uli('N lo opi'ii work, lull il wita Iihi IiiIh, till' t'liiiiU hiiil Ih'iiii ollii'rwi.s(' iippliixl, mill tlii> iiu»iitH liml ^oiu' ulNUwhuni. "Tliu liuliuN H ill hikVd Nit((niio in luiiul, nml will ouuiipy il in acmnUmo with tliu liinly miiiKnl of tlm Miniiom ('oiiiu'il, lut WKin iiM Ihuy I'ltn ; liiil oiir kikhI fruiinl* ;liti I'rii»liyi<'riiiiiii iitik of Nuiiilinx liuiy ii|(iintH thi'n-. ho ihni it iiiny not Ih' tu'ccmnry, or ratlivr not iluNirKlitn. for our liwlirH to ^o. " I Iwlicvo thnt thr ilu;rin> of niitoiioiny the litliu* hnvx in n HnfiiKUitnl, mul tonilK to ooononiy in llic iinu of fiiinlN. itiiil totlui Iirt'Horvntion of tliu uipiililiriiiiii of o.ir work. I coiilil illiiHinttc. lilt pcrlinpH it in not inotiiiMHry. " If yoii coiilil fiK'iit tlim wliolii utl'iiir you woiilil mm' mi iIio pictun- little kIhii thnn |it' govuriiiiiunt,' it poniiitti'iil hihI ■li'tonninol t'll'oii to iivt-rtlirou' ilir pruHont luliniiiiKtrntion. I loiil.l illint' tiiit*' without ilittiriilty. " A f<"W ilavH ii'^o, .VIr. Coatim t.olil niK thnt thii wlio|« iiiiiiti>r WHa coiiiinK Iwfore the liiiiioml Confuri'iiru. I ilo not kiiou mi whnt iiiithority he ii|>oko. tint if tlm (ii>neriil ("oiifi'ri'iiiu ciin oliminitlu perHonnI ill fooling fniin tho uipi,^tioii. thr nyntdiii will work ninoaithly i-noitacript ; thnt ia the puraoiml ruUtiona iHtwuuii the two Councila. Unrriiigit littlu |i«raiitinl fouliiiij tlml iiiiiy xniat on the |(Brt of aomu, there ia no (lilKviilty. Thu l»ilii>anru ruitily to inuct witli iiH for consultiition whotievur wu nak thuiii, Imt Iheru hiia tiecii no nucoaaity for aiich u nuiutinx tlii* yenr. Tliuru m n liirii' unmittlcd ilitticulty butwoon Mra. t'onlu* nml thu Imliiia, but ita (Niiincila, we have iiothinu t'l ilo with tlint. ".luat about the I'loae of our laat Conferumu, Mra. Stnuhiin wrote to inu nlmut the trouble here. I rupliitil I lint 1 waa strongly of thu miinion that thu turbid »nlutioii would ery.ital- lize thia year. Tliia liaa huun thu uaHe ; an far na lIu' work il uoneeniLiI there ia hnriiiony all nioin; the line, in Kaiiawtwit with Mr. Idr.uka, with Mr. liiraiwa in thu KIii/.iii.'ki> dintrict, with Mr. Kolinyaiki in Y;iiimiiiialii il iatriot, nml ill Tokyo. The factauuinato be this ; That the liuliua and ihe .lapaiiiMii paalora have no difficulty in working harnionio.ialy." The Strain Continuen. That the relations of the missionaries with each other were not imjiroving seems to lie indicaleil by the two folliiwing letters from the Rev. J. M. MrArthur to the Cenerul Secretary : " ToKvo, Jai'an, JiUij I'M WM. "The Rkv. A. Sitiikiii.anh, D.I)., " (ieneral Serrutary of Miaaiuna. "Dkak Sik, — I hureby rmpiuat the IJinrd of MinnioiiH to tntiufer me from th« Japan Miaaion to thu China Miaaimi of thu Conadian Muthodial Cliureh. Mjr r*Moiw for aakiii|| for a irniMfor aro na (ollowa "(I) I'nivioiia to my I'omiiiii lo Jaiinn I had a pruferonou fm thi> work III Chiiin Yaii, who may allot l.o the for«i|lii«ra t to iiiipoaHible for n iiinii to bu eoiineuteU,i Uth, 181)4. " l>Ktii Sill. The eoiitiuita of thia letter may, |Hirhn|m, aur priae you, lull from the nature of the eaau my notion may iioi aiirprine you. My tir^l and au omi reaaont for nakiii); lo b - transferred need no expUtintion. -Xs t4. "Kl-v. A. .SlUHKKI AKii. 1)1)., Methodist Mission Rtxiins. '■ roroMio, Ontario, Can.ula. '• 1)1 AK DdcioK, The subject ni.ittcr of this communica tion is in itself tri\ ial, and one should hesitate perhaps to treat suih thiii^js too seriously. Hut straws show the way of the wind, ami this is lorwardcil « hiefly as throwini; liKht on the londilions that h.ive now too lonj! existed here, and which led up to the passiiij; of that resolution at our Council meetinx in whiih we ask whether the aiiilioiities at home cannot do some tiling lo bniiK to an end llic deplorable and disastrous strife between the two missions. "On .S.itmday, July aist. .Mrs. Klliott and I called to see the ladies ol the Woman's Missionary Society. After shakinx hands in the usual way with three of ihein, Mrs. Larjje appeared, and .after KieelinK Mrs. Klliott, declined my proflfereil hand. .She said, ' llefore shakinn bands with you, Mr. Kllioii, I wish to tell you a little sloiy. John Macdimald, of Toronto, FROCEKDINOH Ht: JAPAN AFKAIIl»-TUK 8KCKETARYM UKVIKW. 77 >r ukiiiK for n |irHfnrana« fm >ut • jraar mi'I my MirvioM (i>r litlim iif alfair^ furetit'i) fur tlii til th« (irMtit'i ii> atiiiiiiiiiiiK 1,1 llllllittMl, (?||||| lit> fiirnigiieni n 1)11 (/'iiunoll. 'ore ciiiivinnuil wiiiiM Ih) lofi Wcltllil (hi will iril ivAMoii fi,r ixiatiiiK itniiiii^ -hiiruh in tlii^ in'l lUHfulllUM iKlit ililfurenvxn Ml Iwtirtiuii till- III n» Niiriuuiilt iinl nilittiiiiu cii Ml ('oiincil hikI o lint rucoiitlv II lliin niuiitr) illi'lltwt ; thill iiiiry iiKineji (., i« likii the niKi " liii I'liiineclcl iiliiir, tlint »\w I >'il iiiilli«tint: " wiirk will Im' , wIlHIl lUch II liuii II lieniiiiit mlv fMiii Mr» u( tlie OMu i( MrAuTinm." ie fim, and is II MM, IHIM, •, |Hi|'hn|iM, lur It'tinll limy ||,,t r luikiiij; Id !)■ inl rtuwoli, ymi if tliiii){aii(iii|H ir({o that I hucii->t the i|ueatiiin. Until a nhort time at{o I hrlicvcd you honca>, hut I don't now.' ' I knew, of course, that you had hrou)jht liKainut the memherH of the Mltnion Council a K'neral charge nl dKlmnestv, hut I diiln'l know how far that wai meant for me prrminally,' I laid. '(», did you?' ' Yea, and I didn't know whether you iiieaul it when you treated me 10 itrannely a fm d.'iya a^o, when I i.illed with Mr Italia 10 xet the or^an you had promised to lenil hiin, or whether that was due 10 »iuiie apecial excitement at the nine.' 'I iiirant It,' she said with einuhaais. Mrs. Klliott then spoke, 'I ilimk when you make a cnarKe against any one it is only fair to )(ive your lenannt. ' ' I make no 1 IwuKe.' ' I think you do make .1 very serious chaiKc.' Towhiih there w.is nn reply, save that il ever she found out she was mistaken, she would most humhiy hex ■"/ pardon, and we soon lelt. "When .Mr. Ilaha and I called for the ort;.in, she li.id s.iul curtly, ■ The iiinan's hmken, and 1 aii't no,' .md wheeled into the hack part of the house without another uoi'd. This was our hrst meeting since hcl snnimei. ,mvith at your li.inds on .Saturday last, my mir.d has heen in a stale of continual unrest. My heart is very heavy and sad. Will you kindly .illow me a lew words .' "You will rememljer, of course, the fiist time we were hrou^ht into association. It was a ):reat pleasure to me. Kveryone spoke hijjhlv of you. I here was another re.ison : your late husliand was one of my intimate friends at Vntoria College, and il was no small satisfaction to linil myself housed. tlioii)>h tempoiarily, with nne uluun I had learned to regard so highly. Our short stay in the Jo Oakko resulted, on our part, in sincere admiration lor jour 1 liarai ler and work. This j;rew with the year;, and lipeiied, uniU-r the s.addest circumstances, into a higher reuard and piofound sympathy. " I'wd yeais .ijjo r///(» enieiintj the mission here at Kami- zawa lor the hrst time I heard with pain and astonishment that iheie was some collisicin lielweiii the two missions, .and that the responsihility rested largely with you. It was so in- credihle that I could do little save express my wonder ,ind disappointment, and I decided to wait and watch the course of things, meanwliilc iirxinx upon the olher mcmhers the necessity of doin>: evcrythi'iH possihle. consistent with ri^ht and a proper self respect, to prevent (rii tlon. Thai I have iii^ed from time totiiue ('ver since, and inner more earnest'y than a week 01 two axo, no matter what the provocation, or seeming provocalion on the other side, to avoid to the utmo>t anything like aii«eror > sarcasm, or si.indint; on a l.ilse ditjnity. I his not because I knew tli.it any of the liietliien had cleiiarted seriously from this Christian course, but to do what 1 ci^ to make sure that there should he no unnecessary rau'C of si from our side. May I say, in a word, that the hearts of hoth 'is. Klliott .and myself have most deeply ached with urief durii these two years, as we have hoped against hope licit the hitt'-rness mii;ht soon be past. And it was most jjiatifyinj; to us |l ' up till a few days a(,'o we had never h/id, personally, the sli», itest rupture with any member of the Woman's Mission, and had been on terms of close intimacy and real friendship with several of them. " During these twu yems we have indeed luMird many things difNeiilt t take the iinsl ehuritjilile view, wu have felt llmt so huin im the leliitifUiHof the two iiiisNiiiiiH, ii.s Hueh. were so strained, it waa iiiiposHible that there could fie, .111 lithur sidu, llie same perfect, freedom and whohi-heurtudiK'Ss ,.f inlereoUiHo tliiit wciiild he iiatuiiil, under ■itlitir cii-euniNtjinceH, to repruNentatives of the Haiiie eouiilry and the name Chuieh. Thou),di not »t any price, our eonstaiit prayer and effort nieanwliih' have heen for reeniieiliiitioii. "Such l>eiii){ the conditions, <>{ liite my Nlinkini; nf your hand hiw not, of eoiiiNe, h len the siiniu kind of liand-shiiko it used to he. Yet I claim it ■ '.h heen thoroughly sineeii simeie in hope that at least in |iai't you may have bueii iiiiNunilurstooi) ; that wherein you iimy have erred ymi would HiHinor or later ackiiowliKlue it, and that the terrible atrife might Honiohow soon [ end. Aiiu for nearly a year now I have liuun simply waiting an o|i|Hirtunlty for a Nlraitiht talk jirivntejy with you, on aeveral pomlit, ill the name itnd apiril lY CliriHl. I have heen l.ihllhat hIiiui others hiivu umie mi an errnml nf thia kind ' alie Iiim simply uiit tlii'iii cut them iilntiply.' hut it himuiin to niu thu only right eniirmi, mid I >till hope for the uppnrtuiiity. You •Hid that if liver you fnuiid nut llmt you wvrii iiiiatakiin you wiiiild lu'K uiy piiidnii, Vu'i iiiiint niii'ely HI u that, having iliipeitchid my Himerity and luuiesly, you i.we It to me to givo me II I'hiilii'ii, at the earliest jhmniIiIii iiii'iiieiit, tn iihow xhethur yiiii ale niinliiken or not. I premt iiiuiii you to tU a tiimi anil iiliiee where we may iiitait and atiti now mallera leally Ntaiiii helweeli Us "Mrs Large, iHifoie (lod I Noluiiinly vow thai, in piiijKMu nt lennt, I kimw nnlhiiiK of dishonesty nr innineerity. If in wolil nr act I have seemed In helie lliiN Ntatenielit, I ni fiiind that I waa mistaken I would bcK ynur pardnn fnr L.iving misjudifed ydii, as well as fnr my aetinii nf Saturday hist. I now feel, by ynur own ciinfesH'nti, that a time eaniint cniiie when that apnlngy must cnme from me, and that if ever you and I are to stand on the footing of yeara past, il iiiiist I o hy all acknowledgment frmn ynu nf yc iir having iieeii iiiitriie to ynur pmfessed friendship, in tliiit you lave been willing to wait. Imping that I would see the error of my ways ; when ynu had iin reasnn hut ' lieirsiiy ' fnr thinkiiu! flat / waa the sinner. It is lint so much for what ymi /loiv done as for what ymi have hut done that I impenchynur prnfe-sionsof /m>ii«ii< friendship. " 1 dn not intend in this to try and justify mv csiuri-c. I have laid that jiistitieatinii in higher hands. ' I kimf in ■vhoin I have believed, .iiiil am persuaded that He is ahl. io keep that which 1 have eoiiimitti d to Him.' Tlimigh H' •,,'rnilt my ene- mies to slay iiie, yet will I trust Him. "On page 7 ynu say, 'I have heen told tlai w'.eii others have gnne to ynu fnr a straight talk, she ha ^ii: iily mit them, cut them sliarjily. ' Now, whoever made -U' 1 a »(aten...vib wandered from facts, HH I am aide tn prove ii;t more than oi;e witness. I,ut me reumint : In .Sopteiiiher of 'S!i'2, Mr. t'aifidy called for an interview It was granted ; s 'iiiet'iing ovet tvio hours being taken up with it. 'I he day followiiej Mr. Duni.ip called, and the same length of time was spent u a straight talk, and I regret that at that time I still had HUlheient confi- dence in their honest friendship not to feel that a third party- was a necessity. In the early |>art of IKiKt Mr. Crummy called for an interview. It was granted in the presence of Miaa G3 78 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1895. Munro, and was upwards of tliroo hours long. On Oood Friday of the same ynar, Mr. [)unh>|> onllod am' uxprtsufeod a wish tn have a tklk with iiiu. This was in the ]>t leiiuu uf it third |inrly. I repliei' that it was (imiil Friday, k day that was full of memories, .md 1 cmild nut talk viith hiin then, hut that at any otnur time I wmild gladly do wi. My otfor h;k8 never been accepted. On the 7th of April of the same year I received a letter from Uov. .Mr. Oassidy ; later on the m.uiiu ilay a second tvaii received. The.se the Kxocuiive of our mi»>iou thin'ght tit to deal With. You have l>eforeyou trie reqnonl»' for 'straight tjdks,' •ml the manner in which th'.-y were ''Vit.' It may help to auggost to you the tinthfnlnuf* of much else that has been poured into your- 1 cani'jt nut foel not unwilling ears. " In eonoli'siim, let .ue say that Jmi hilturness to which you refer does not exist 'n my heart, and, ho far as 1 know, there ia no such feeling among the members of the Wo. nuns Missionary Society Mission. HastUg takjn your course, you must abide by it. Justice and righteousness must prevail, even though in the nuantime .\hab gets the viuoyaid ; and •11 these things will but brini; n^e oi '■ into a broader place. and work for mo 'a far more exec iding and e'ernal weight of glory. ' "That the (iod of the fatherlens anu the widow will deal witli all those who have either actively or passively carrieil on this war, as these sjimo liave dealt by me, is my faith. No further correspondence will be received. " I remain, sinoeroly yours, " Eliza .S. LARiiR." Mr. Klliott then proc.-"ds : " My letter was meant to be as conciliatory as possible, and 1 purposely left out some points 1 could K.ive nie.i ioned, and, htimanly speaking, felt very much like uicntioiioig. .V few of these jioints 1 won' . have considered it necessiiry and right to ■peak of at an appointed meeting, or in a second coniniunic.i- tiiMi, if she had not. c you see, unjustly closed up the »«y with a single unfairly put reply. These will cimio out now in a short criticism of that roply. " She says. ' 1 ackii iwledge timt the hand-sh.tko \ wonlil have given would not have been such as it used to lie.' This cer- tainly, as the c onuectioii shows, cannot be read apart fiom. and must be explained l>y, my statement, about the impoKsibillty that there could be, uuiler existing con litions. 'the same perfect freedom .. id wholeheartedin'ss of intercourse,' etc. That, surely, does not seriounly contlict with 'sincerity.' " Again, she says that i h;id no 'further proof than hearsay.' My letter does not necessarilj imply that, ami it in not true to fact, 'two years ago, as 1 w,is out walking uith Mr. >Sauiiby, she n!-jt us, and in her own peculiar fashion carrincl her he.nl away t.w, but 1 can't possibly iindcr- Btand it.' ' Is that so ( Bi.l wliy does she ignore iio' (' Mrs. l^ai^e ha» fre«pu'iitly spitken Mndly to mo since, but never once otfereil an explanation lor the ruileness of that time. l,a.sl summer 1 called to ask whether her .lapalicse scrvaiit v nuld not read a ,la|>anese h'lter I h.nl just received, and write a reply to it ( 'Yes,' she g;iii' [iromptly, and i ailed lur. When the letter was read and tin- servant about to write the reply, "he broke out, ' Mr. Klliott, the girl is very busy, an>l can t spend any more time w:th you now ; sho must go to her work.' ,)i\ni in that way -that and nothing in ire. .\gain, it was my l"t once to read one of her letters tip Dr. Kby. written at the time uf the tini'.l break Iwlweca them a letter which I think you have ■eon, "Then Mlo the 'lioarHay' itself. Shortly after the walk with Mr. ^Saunby, above referred to, his little ono lieil in Karui/viwn .\t the time of the funeral she wrote him sayini< f.liat she Would have i;on<,' over, but felt that her presence would not lie Hcceptttble. 'I'liis, when he was feeling itumt kroiily his sad loss, and was about to lay ih: body aw.iy ; and when, too, as abovi, he couM not uinlcrstai ,1 her altitii ie to him, and was trying to make jieace with he! . 1 knew there could lie no manner of dinbt about .Ids 'hi;ars.iy, nil she herself would never think of .leiiying it. Much thai I have ' heard ' is of a more serio-js character than thiN, and as little open to dotibt. No man who knowsaiiytliing of her disposition, "Specially since her return to. Japan, lould possilily iiii.tgiin^ that, after breaking completely, one after another, with nearly hll the iiieiubcrs of our (Council, from l>r <'ocl;riii down to Mr. MiXrfliur ami myself, and with several of tin- choicest members of the Womaii s Mi-ssion itself, she was entirely in the right, and what 1 had heard might |iossibly be ioiind to be all lyrong, or mostly wrong, had I only coiiferri-d with her. " Then you wi',1 see how maiiifeslly unjust she is in inter- preting mv policy of ' HiDliiig ami wati'liing.'as iH'lii-'ing -ivery- thing, particularly after I had daiiiied to have 'alu.iys tri.'d to take the must charitable view.' I Insist iinml strongly that I have always done this, and that 1 hnvo hail aiiytliiii){ but a 'not unwilling ear.' She siiys it v as 'within my (siwer at any lime to have heard the other side.' I'mbably so, lui mtiii; liut at first I hoped the strife would very soon t>o ended, and had no wish whatever to touch anything rotating '^o it ; and latutrly I felt that nothing bu; a talk face to face would serve. For this tlierrf has been but little chance, as I live so far out in the Country. " 8he claims not to have 'cut anyone w.ion called on for an interi'ictt. .Vs 1 wi(I, nnd hni] iiii lis |H>Haiblo, I |or with Moiwrii. id lit hand, aiul ■iiya that tln' lie, iiiul nil done liir.H' weretftkiMi lEmecuDgiirily, nil ly yoiun' history Iti) Bay, anil wus |Hucond ocuaiinii jr into such an Jo in, or renuiiii Ih sIiu Ntill ^IIV>> Ihiril [larty,' g\\r iiiitiiitjiiiis til It |tii nil this. N>. mill road In r to hursulf as tli.' [toil to hor cart'.' touolicil, thou;;li stances horojii.'t d soro distrL^KM, runtly iniHJiidni', ry on war' with ylliini; has ev.r !ri/.«d. On th,' c is ono of till' stiirbinjj;. oiiurs.- ■ iiiyHolf, tliiii' far otliorwisi' vi>d(;iiiirch— am at Mm. Lni'xi 's itroiiger tonii, i^ this liuld woiiM oil. Tho sDiiiii'i- il>l' to tinil soiii. would eurtniiih thin to pay In i i-ourNO, tlint .-'lir iiuly tho wisdom to make uhv if may hol|> to m lit tho tJ0MOI.ll ikuii in foiwulti. ly Swiety. I,, t siinilly, ontiiiiy filling of down Hi lie tho nutniis K tliix ,la|iaiU'si' orfnct ox.ini|i!i'.. May His own to UH for JiMiis i'm. Elliott." iti 1894, a C(ni 4 to the Ja|i.iii h siil)sc()uciulv doptcu by th' IS between rei ini.in's Mission obtain betwfiti (•■i .ire not otni )lVn ers of tho- • cnown to mat . 1' the natives m >oih upon ni!. spiritual resiil'- e .tulliorities .ii o |Mii an cml ! • .i|i|ilo with ai I ne." Iip Kxeciitlvrs y Mi8.s Munri. I one of the missionaries of the Woman's Society in Japan. It was sent to Dr. Macdonald, and is as follows : ' Dear Ur. MacI)()NAL1),~As far as 1 know, there was no friction whatever between Mr. Cassidy and our Council, or any member of it, until the year of Mrs. Large's .absence in Canada — that is, the year tSyo-gi. During the year friction arose in the following way : " Some months before .Mrs. I.argc's return to Canada, Mr. Cassidy had been asked to form one of a sort of Advisory Com- mittee for the aid of our work in Shizuoka, and Misses Morgan and Margrave were also members of the committee. " During the year of .Mrs. Large's absence this committee sent in to our Council a document relating to the work in .Shizuoka. Alter the Council meeting, all needed inforijiation was sent home by our then Correspondmg .Secretary, Miss Lund. .Mr. Cassidy «;is very much annoyed liccause only the information, and not the document, was sent home. 1 believe it had been worded by Mr. Cassidy. Kor a time we feared that Mr. Cassidy would permanently refuse to work with us in this way, and we were not a little tioubled, as we dieaded i '■ f ak with our missionary. Miss Winlemute (now Mrs. Coatcby spent part of the summer of 1891 at Mr. Cassidy's, and before our annual meeting we knew that .111 apology would soothe Mr. Cassidy's rurtled feelings, We believed that Mr. Cassidy nad no reason whatever to feel ruttled ; nevcrtheicss, desiring to live in harmony with him, we decided to send an apoli.;^y for not having made the nature and powers of that committee sutifi- ciently clear to him at the beginning. I do not remember tlie wording of the resolution, Ijut know that it was meant to be conciliatory. This resolution was passed in Seplenilier, iSi i, immediately after .Mrs. Large's return from Canada. 1 his little episode, which at the time caused us some anxiety, left no irritation on our siile, although Mr. Cassidy fell in my esteem as a manly man of business. It was not said that tin- informa- tion sent home had been insutricient, but tlial alter all the trouble he had taken the do< iiiiient went no further than our Council. My longer experience in work, and my better know- ledge of Mr. Cassiil), has niaile me see lh.it the wiser course would have been not to liave paid any attention whatever to Mr. Cassidy's annoyan' e. "Tlie break with Mr. Cassidy in the spring of 1S93 was im- mediately occasioned by a letter to Mrs. Large, written by him; but tins was only the final ,ict. .Mr. Cassidy was one of a band who individually and collectively were trying in every way to gain control of us in our v nrk. He was one of the most aggres- sive of that banil. "Mr. Cassidy's ant,agoni-m to ,VIrs. Large, not for any per- sonal lault in Mrs. Large, but as the strongest member of our Council and our olficial head, was daily becoming more afipar- ent and more offensive to us. All the little incidents and slights and slings 1 Ikkc forgollen, as I conscientiously tried to forget them, nevertheless, wlien a greater offence came, we were more affected by it than it it had been bu". the beginning of difficulties. " I said aJiove that 1 have forgotten much, but there is one incident that was so iiniiiediately conn cted in dale with the receipt of the letter that it stands out clearly in my memory. During the Laster holidays of 1S113, I spent a few days in Shi/uoka. One evening Miss Hart and Miss Robertson told me of some opinions expressed and urged by Mr. C issidy, relative to the contiul of certain so-called Sunday .Schools gathered together by the senior ( hristian pupils of the Lirl's school in Shizuoka. We knew tli.it if Mr. ('assuiy's opinions were carrii d into effect, it would mean the closing of those schools and thi' deprivation of the children in them of any Itible teaching, and tie pupils of the g.:''j schools of the refh \ influ- ence of such work. Ihis, not only in Siii/tuoka. but in ro>'ou may remember that Mrs. Large told you of the state of affairs in Shizuoka. Mr. Cassidy, having heard from you that the matter was reported to Mrs. Large, returned home and wrote an angry letter to Miss Robertson. She, having heard of his return, .and not knowing that he knew of the matter before she received his letter, wrote to him according to the prearranged agreement. Their letters crossed ; he receiving hers after having mailed his own. fhe tone of Miss Robertson's letter evidently pleased him. The two Ladies and Mr. Cassidy met, liut the meeting failed in getting a straigiitforward opinion from Mr. Cassidy. The statements in the last ten lines is the matter as communicated to us at the time. "This happened but a few days before Mr. Cassidy sent his letter to .Mrs. Large (the letter which, .as I said before, was the immediate cause of the break). 1 forgot to state th.at in •.lie conversations with the ladies n' S.S. control, before my visit to Shizuoka, Mr. Cassidy h.ad irritated them b> insinu.ating that the opinions expressed by them bad been received from Azabu. Indeed, this constant ascription of all opinions and decisions to Mrs. Large, at first ridiculous and laughable, w,as becoming unbearably irritating. More than that, it w,as grow- ing extremely ii.^.rmful to Mrs. Large. The freqiient atteinpfs on the part of certain members of your Council to interfere with (control) the work committed to us wf resisted. These checks to their ambitions irritated them, and as they ascril>ed all opposii^g acts of our Council or of individual members to Mrs. Large, there was a growing dislike to Mrs. Large. This dis- like spread to the new members of your Council, «ho accepted statements against Mrs L.iige made by older members. This flislike had called forth many offensive words and actions towards Mrs. Large. "All this, and the nervous strain consequent upon it, had .already liegun to Inive a very sad elife.;t on Mrs. Large's health, and «e were led to fear a break-down. Sympathy for Mrs. Large, our duly to our own Society and the work at Large, rei|uired us 10 take some measure to prevent recurrence of these tilings. Parallel to all this, and adding fuel to the dis- like to Mrs. Large, was the dillicully between our Council and the work under Dr. Kby. We asked (or an investigation ; it was refused. .Mr. Cassidy's letter to Mrs. I arge, which con- tained so much concentrated venom, and an equally offensive and unkind letter sent by him to the Kev. Mr. Hiraiwa, led us to see that Mr. Cassidy was an unsuitable adviser for our ladies ill Shi/iioka. Desiring to relieve Mrs. Large of the responsi- bility of replying to sucii offensive letters, and feeling that such letters sent to our ollicial head were .in insult to our Council, we decided to receive none but official oiniiiunications from Mr. Cassidy in future. .As I was one of the chief actors in this break with Mr. Cassidy, I have given this .account accord ing to my own reasons for action. "I'.S.— In legard to Dr. Eby's account of his work, given before the Mission Conference in Tokyo, I have heard it said by those who were present, and know one of these [lersons is still in lapaii, that among other things, he said the work in the Tabernacle was so great that 'if he did not get hel|> he would be compelled to ask the .Mmighty to stay His Hi.nd.' Some members of other missions were so much astonished at the account he gave of his woik, that they arranged to visit the Tabernacle to see if these thinj;s were so. Ihey went .at dif- ferent limes, and fmiiul that Dr. h:by had entirely overstated the stale of alTairs. My informant's name I am able to give it necessary." Pdstscript by Dr. M.icdonald : " Mrs. Large knows the particulars of this siatement. I an. 05 ■Agf^jfli>Wip-3^ 80 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1893. not the only one wlio cannot take Or. Eby's u'owintf stntements I a basis of procc " M r. Cassuly t eiliire. views because of the Uoaul's cruel ire.itnient of him (l)r, liby). It was a part uf the d^ht a^ainsl you and the lUmrtt." Acliiin of tht Gtntil Hoard and Extctititvi. The time came at last when the l'".xceuiive.i of the two Boards felt that they must take action, or otherwise ahamlim their work in Japan. I'lierc seemed lo he no hope ihat the antagonism among the missionaries would subside. The (leneral Board had appointed a committee to confer with a like committee of the Woman's Hoard as lo what steps should be taken. These committees met in Toronto, and after considention agreed upon the following report to their resjtective Executives : " The Joint Committee of the Kscculives of the two Mission- ary Societies, having considered carefully the rel.ition of various agents of the societies in Jaj)an, as shuwii by the correspond- ence, bcj; leave to report as tollows : " I. rh.it in our opinion, in order to restore hiirmony, it is absolutely necessary that several cluinfios lu< ni.idi' in the /»cri«n//('(' of both missions. Wi- therefoir reconiinrml to the Woman's .Missionary Society tlir widuh.nval of Mrs. I..ii(;e from the Japan work not later than the close ol the f)rescnt school year. " 2. The Rev, Dr. Eby havin); tendered hi» rcsiKnation as missionary to Japan, we recoinmeml (he Kxecutive of the Oeneral Hoard to accept said le.^iKnalion, lo l.tkc elVci t forth- with. '•J. We are further of opinion t'lai it is not c\pedicnt that the Rev. ¥. A. Cassidy should rciurn to Japan, and we recomm-nd to the Executive of the tieneral llottiil ihni lie he retained permanently in this country. When the report came befott; the Kxecutive of the General Board on December mth, lS<)4, the following action was taken : " The Report of the Joint Committee was read clause by clause. " On motion of Or. .Sutherland and Hon. J. C. Aikins, lirst p.irt of clause I was .uloptcd. "On motion of W. M, (iray and Or, (ialiirailli, seioiul part of clau.ie I. wa.- adopted. " In connecticn with clause j the Secreln-y 'rad a letter fiom the Rev. Or. Ehy tendering; his resij*!; on, whcieupon. on motion, it 'vus resolved. Iliat tlif resignation of the Kev. Or. K!)y as inission.iry to Jap.m be aoc('|Ued, to Like dint .U tin- end of llie current Confercnci" vcii, ,»ud thai 111 the iiicantiine his relation continue as a misMonary on fiulouj^li. '■ Also resolved. That die Tieasurers he authorreil to settle any unp.aid balance of Iravellinn espeuKes ol Or, Khy or family Irom Japan to Canada, ami the necrss.uy I'leiuhl on the library and etTects still to come faun Japan. " In connection with d.iu .e i, il w.is on nioiion icsihed, That we concur in the juduinent oi the Joint loiiiniiilre ii'pre sentinj; the two .Mis>ionary Soiielio: tluit it is iiirxpedicnt un.ler existing circunislan-es that tlir Ri\. I', .\, I .i>. uly should return to Japan. It is ouUied llirrcloie ih.it Mr, Cassidy's connection with the J.ip.m mission (rimin.ite with the present Conference year, and ihat hi> irl.ition to the Society as a missionary on furiouxh be continued duiin^ tin- interval. "The Report as a whole was then adopted. ' Letters from Mr. CiU\id\: When this action was cuminunieate^ to Mr. t'assidv, he replied as follows ; "Point Aux Trkmiuks, gi.-r.., /,i«, i„/a, 1895. " 7"/4< Genera! Secritiiry^ MelhoMsl .\Hs tliei uise-, «liiili led to my dismissal from till- mission widi wliii h 1 liavi- l»-'. A. Siithcrliiiiil, tliiuiral SecitUiry "/ th« Mis- fi.iiiiini Siii'ielii, Millire.il aiiioiiiit of sociil-r work for the .laimnuso (iovorii iiioiit, and with the uro-tesl ploasiiro tiirnud over ill my earn iinjs to the iiodit of the Mis.sionarv .Society. I have earned a- iiuum OS iiiueli as yen 1 H> per nuiiith, and noither was 1 pn- Hied pers.inally by iis iiiuoli as one siniilo yon of that money nor did i nive II to the work as my personal siibsoription Kroiii my fourth yearoiiward I uariicu less, but adiniiiistorod tin proceeds myself for the i;o id of iho work and with the iipprov.d of t lie .Mission I'. lunoil. It was at this period that I built tli. ,Shi/iink.'i Eiii;o .Soininon (iakko, without u cut of aid from tlj.' Mission Kiinds-ii buildin)^ which has been of untold lulvanla.:' to our w..rk in .-slii/.uoki. both as a school for thu traiiiinu; i i our yoiiii:^ 111011 for the wurk, ami to lake the place of a church M'lieii for two sueeessive periods .if nearly a year each wo ivcir left without a plaoe to worship by the lirc-s that destroyed oui churches, " in my second your I was, at thu reipiest of the chairm-vn of the ihun so, 1 look full ciiaru'e of all tlie detiiils of the work on my fluid, hot!! Iimiiiiial and oiheiwise, Diriiii; :ny term of servioo, oleven eliuiilies .'iiid four parsoimu-es wore biiill, ull of which weiv Milder my mamiijeineiil, ami were carried tliroii.,{h without the loss or nilsiise of H tint of the .---ocietys funds, Tliis iiivo|veiitieii once imperiled tlioir position, miiiI ihuy well iiikIi lost tin ' inlbieino with the .lupaucse, I threw iiiyiulf into the brem ' . anil »i eeded iii resloriiii; them to Iheir position and savii. :: iiionl uiipleu.vml, crisis As 1 was itiniious'y ■i-\ thu I'nl.i and the represeiilatiies of the Woman's .Missionuiv Soc.in wcri- fiii|iiciitly iliiinoed. 1 doul.t whether any i ' •hen reilv knew how iniuh anxiety and care I have oxporicnoed for II • wulfaru of ihuir work, "'hore wore often littl a lurs i. n noolcsl with their rolntioiis to my work which I wisheil have imi.riived, but of their work in the main, and o| il,. (i(i PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 31 I'y >•' tlro tha timo of my ruttirn, vi/,., in Ainil, il8n;<, fouliiii( )(rtiiitly duproniiml and Kriuvml liy tlin bad rtdiitinns [which hud hin^ oxi.sted butwfun imiv twn nils.'ii'i.is, i folt that it Iwrtii my duty In aiy phtinly to Mrs. Liir^o what I lioliovod tn lie Itho I'iMit of thu troiililo. Having known hur ho..; HUit inti- IniHt.'ly bofriro oithur of \ib wunt to tho misition tiuld, 1 ftdt ox |thouiy l°i>lh)wini; the scripttind method of stntinu thu fiietji Idirectly to the peison concerned I certainly would make no Imistake. So I wrote her a private letter, in all sincerity nnd IfrankncHM, beinsj Imrdened by nioHt (grievous ciixuimMlaneeii Itlmt came to my knowledjjo at that very time. The letter was jiiut written with diploniatic skill or care, but it wan trnthfiil land honeM, and na a |:rivate letter in ipiite defensible. Hut jeven if I were t > conci'de the wl.vlom of it altomither, it wa.s loidy a private letter. It wa.s frank, honest and well intended ; land if yon think it was unwise, I can n!i.sure you that a Htate- Iment of the eircnniRtancea under which it wai written would [greatly alter your views. Unt whatever itsi contents, it seems [to me that the.inlyiutenlion.il evil connected with it was ir. Ithe use mule of il. There cm be no jjood interpretation put lupiiii "ucli a malicious misuse of private correspomleuce. 1 Icannot understand on wlmt ^'roiind you cim take thi-t tip nnil luse it aijauHt ine. Itut if you do, then there are other private iletters on the other side which oU);ht to eiuiio to light and be Idealt with. " N.iw if you have really t.ikon action on tho strength of this Hotter alone, 1 consider it a most unreasonable thini; that you bliould take up a private letter, at loa.Hi well iutended. make it nIKcial, and by it cancel seven years of faitlifiil and bhiuleless bervice, and harshly dismiss, unheard, one ot your stall' wle> is litid by all concerucil to be 'veil eiiteil to the Work of that dilli- cnlt held, the .lapaii .Mission. " But It may be said that there are other charijes ai;niiist me; If si-, I ought to know what theyaie. I have .lakel .several times, but have not been given a single point. 1 know of a lew attempts made against nie with a view to justifyiiii; Mrs. jargc's course, but ihey wore so irp,, nnd less ami selfcontradic- ory that I don't think anyone wouhl st»te them in my prus- bnce before a ciunmittee. " Now having given yon this brief mitlilie ( f tho case na I see It, I appeal thiou.di you to the members of the Kxecutive Com ■littee, all of whom occupy poailioiis of responsibility, and ask iiw thi'y would like to \\v iotpeached in tlcir absenct*. con- I'lniieil on trivial rumors raised by those who have but a ijiglit knowielge of their work, and sunnuarily dismissed with but an opportunity of reply ' "I most respcdfiily submit that a private letter ought not be i: ed in such manner ami for such purposes .is my letter .\pril, 18!tM, has been used fiU'. Hut if such use is to be nade of my letter, you cmnot blame me if 1 follow a similar netliod in self-vindication. The! ' are at least hve or si\ letlt^rs my p .saession, any one of wliicli would be much baviler to ex- Uaiii or justify than the one thai 'las been used a'.'ainst me, Now ^hon I am being injiireil by an unf lir nsii of luie private letter. f<>u surely cannot exp 'Ct me to submit in s.lence wlien I hive kvoral in my liaiuls which will easily throw the blame ou the ther sije. While I cmnot jiistily the methed followed by my BcuscM, I havi^ only to fidlow the same method to put them ^1 a very iinenviable bitht. " Now in fair pl.iy to me, in tho interests of the .Miinuon »u»e which we love, and in mercy to the Womm's .Missimiary loclely, I most icspnctfiilly ask tint you rescind your action, Vhieh rests up in my letter of .Vpril, IK'.):), or upon similarly ktifair statements, and that all reference to it be at once |ropiied. " Hoping ih.it you may see your way dear to grant this my lost respectful prayer. " I am. yours sincerely ami truly, " K, .\. l"A,s.sinv.'' Futlhtr Aclwn by the Exdutivf. At a mectiiiR of the Executive Committee held oit .\pril Ijth, iS()5, Mr, (!nssi(ly's letters wore read, after wl,ich il lis resolyed, ' That Hm. ilassidy, baviiig evpiessed dis |tisfaelion with t!ie aitioii of thi t'oinniiltee in dealing itli liH r.ise without his piTsonal presiMiie, he allowed the Bportunity of meeting tin; ('oiiimitlee, or niaking any jiplanalion he may wish " At a further meetiii}; of the To timittee, held .Vpril jiilh, Ir. C.issidy, being present, was heard at length in reg,trd to own ease, and permitted to say whatever he wished. the followipo morning he was lieard .ig.iin, after wliieh was moved by Rev. S. J. Shorey, seroiided hy \V. t'l. mih. l'",sii,and resolved, -" I'hat it having heen repiv ited to this Kxecutive that its former action respecting Bv. (•'. .\. Cassidy has been interpreted as a relleetioti upon his ministerial character ; therefore, be it resolved, thu while this Executive h,is not thought it expedient that Mr, ("assidy should return to the Japan work at present, yet we desire to asstire him that our .action in this matter is in no sense an implied reflection upon either his adminis- tration or his character." Further Lttttr from Mr. Cassidy. On the 17th of May, 1895, Mr. Cassidy addressed the following letter to the lixecutive Committee : "1)k.\k Uki-'.tiiurn, — Whereas your action of Doceinber las- (of which 1 have oHieial notice dated December 21st. 18!U) dist missing mo from tho s-rvico of the Missionary Society was taken on tho rocommendation of a Joint Committee appointed to deal with certjiiii troubles existing between our two missions operating in ,lap;in, and therefore implies that I was, at least in part, responsible for those trouble.^, and that my recall was necessiry to the rest iratitm of harmony, and is therefore a severe act of censure upon me ; ■' .Vnd whereas the ottiei.il sta'oinent which appeared in the (tMiiiifioii of Kebruary tith last, over the signatures of your Chairimi'i and .Secretary, rocognizos and reiterates said respon- sibility and censure ; " .■Vnd whereas this action was recommended by said Joint Committee ami coiiKriiied by you without any specific charges being preferred against mo, or opportunity given me to defend myself, or explain I'liy points that may have been raised against me, though I have urged r jpeatedly my right to a fair hearing, and full investi'.'ation of whatever complaints have been made against me : ■■ .\nd whereas your action h;^s given rise to reports which are calculated lo injure inv ministerial standing ; " Therefore, 1 hereby demand that you withdraw your action, referred to above, and give notice of such withdrawal through the (lintiiliiti), and that if you, or anyone else, has any charges lo briuu against mo, or any complaints to make in regard to my personal or odicial actions, such charges or complaints be made doHnitely in wr.ting, and I bo given an opportunity of reply. (Signed) F. A. Cassidy." In closing fie account of this most unhappy affair, I will read the following letter from the Rev. Y. Hiraiwa, in reply to one of mine in which I had asked him to give me some account of the trouble from a Japanese point of view. In compliance with my request he wrote as follows : "Shizuoka, July 26Wi, 1896. " My !>kau I)it. SiriiKKt.ASi —Your loiter of tho I.")th nil, was to hanil in di.e couise. and in complying with your ivipicst to communicate on the present mis.sion trouble from the .la|«iiiese standpoint, I beg to write in .inswer as plainly as 1 cm, accoiiling to my knowledge of the case and my judgment concerning it, .\nd my answer sh.all be somewhat in order of your oiieslions " 1.' .\s to the inlluence of Dr. Eby and Mr Cassidy in regard to the peice and hirmony among tho missionaries and beiween the two Mission Councils ; " Ihoii^h I ilo not know whether Mr Cassidy was the direct cause, or one of the causes, of the trouble or noi, it always seemed to me that Dr. Eby was the le.ider or centre of the present troublesome movement or disturbance among the niissi.inaries. .-\s il chielly arose tirst from the work of the l.iilr.il Tabernicle, while the other missionaries, except Dr. M.icdoii.ild, being all in sympathy with Dr. Eby's plan of the work, i.iliy rouiiil him, .-Vml Mr. Cassidy and Mr. Crummy were, .acconliiig as the alt'air appears to me, his prominent and aiilent assistants among them in the iiiovenient. I think a iiaturd allinlly has existed from beginning between Dr Eby a'ld Ins allies, as they came from Caiuula to the mission Hold in .Japan through his enlhusiaiitiu persuasion or influence. UiMs. l>iiii!op, Crnnimy, McKenzie and Elliott all came here to work with Dr Kby tlmaigh his anient invitation as men of the Self suoporli g iianil. Dr. I''.by obtained for thein remun- I'lalive positions in the gnvernnient schools, while thoy, in turn, coniributed l.aintely out of their earnings to build the Central Tabernacle, ami lu'lpcd to iiiaiiil.iiii the work till the P. i. was .li^s 'vcd. Though Ibo, Coates did not join tho Hand im arrival in .lapiin, for a certain lei.soii he bad and f>Ta time worked inilependently for himself, he came also foi the lame n.irpose and in the same way, and his heart, of course, wai for Dr Kby's work. .Vml Hro,"Ca>.sidy, too, made up his mind to come lo .lapan. and oH'of d hiins.'lf to the Missi.mary Society lliroie;!i his inlluence. it was a ".ittle befinv the iilea of the Self supporting Hatvl was stirted So it is ni.> wond. that they all should go for Dr, Eby a.s thoy do. " Now, the work of I 'ic Central Taboriiucle occupies a , . . uliar and straiigopo,sition in the works of our Methodiat Church heie. AT Ht (lENERAL HOARD OF MISSIONS, lS tnki- tlio iiiuiiv i>f ii cliuroli, hb it« wcik w»» to (litl'iT vntiruly fu>m tlint of Hiiy ordinary iluiali. Tim work wiiM to inc'ludo every uraUo of iiiunnB of uttractiiiR tlio jhmhiIb, hr fiimi H Ho8lon Moiiiiay l«ctiir«) down to tho SSalvntion Army tiu'ticn, mid aUo all ]ilcusaiit aneial mid literary mter- tAimiionta. Somo bvnuvoloiit works beside*, I uiuliistami, such as sonu' help for the poor, for the sick, for the oriphiiii, etc., oto. It is very ureal and coniprvhensiM' in its scope, 'lokyo l>ciii(? tho capital of the Kiiipiro, all the ycuiiK and proiiii»iii|j[ j'eiiemtioii tlmk into It fri.iii all the parts of the country, ni\d the Institntion was nieani to draw tlieni in, and exert intlueiicos over theui, and then over the whole iiiition thiouKh ilieni. So it Ih to be the centre of the mission work, and It is ntit only to he the centre of the radiating inHuences, b;it alKo the cenlre of contrihntinjt or concontratinn; tho mission forces. Not only those men of the .SeUaupporting Hand did ivndor their means and inHueiiee to l."iild up the cause of the Instilulioii troni dill'eieiit paitjt of tho country where they used to li\e, hilt others (if our connoctioit were led, if posKilile, to concent tall' their helps. A rentrnl Mission, in fact ; and iiidceil it has liwii sometinics called liy that name too. The work in so grand and so iniportatit, and that of tho other churches so wayside and iiisigtiilicant /» the i !)r <>/ thf orii/i'iiufo)', that it was cj»lled the 'lion-trap,' while thai of other churches, ' n-.ouse traps' hy him, which state.iietit once appeared in one if the American |>aiH ra, to which Mr. Whittinston ttrs* attracted tuy allention while he was yet here, and 1 myself read it. The only ]Hiiiit which ]iurposely connects itself with our Confeietici' (•i tile litlle onianiztd body of the con.erte sometimes popularly called the Central Church, in dis tiiulion lo the larger body in which it exists, and to which a ,la|uuiese pa«tor i.s appointed by the Conference, and I'r. Khy tile siiperinlciiilent of the Tabernacle. " Mori'over, the Central Tabertiacle v.a» not only to be tho centre of oi.r mis.''ion, bill was also to ^o beyond our cirtde. It w.is fri .iitently and publi, )y announced to be undenominational or iKin ilenominational in its nature, so tliat all the ChrisliaiiH ami l.'liristian workers could or shouhl join in the work, if they hail any noble ilesire to convert the .lapanese nation to Cliiisl, aiid their syiii|atliy and iiiterest wi're solicited. One Mr. Hmwii, who had no u.iiinectioti with our mis-ion whatever, ami who was fnuii the Stales, had iiice actually joined in the work, ami WB.H emploxeil as the authorized Corresponding Secretary of the Central Tabernacle. lie freipietilly wrote to a certain paper 111 the States on behalf of the work of the Tabertno'le. in wlaeb he once stated to the ellect that Or. Khy left Canailiaii Methodist Mission for the wurk of the Tabernacle, and was wiirk:nij on the basis of selfsacrilice, etc., etc. Some American or British Christian pasheiiizers throu^jh tho country, now iiiid then visited the Insiilulion, who usually i;ave their contrihii lions or lectures, .Some of lluni happened to ask mo while 1 was io Tokyo whether the woik was really undenomtiiational oi ml, iiiid what was l)r, Khy s relation to the Canadinn .Melhodlsl MI,>sion. The subject of tho Insiilulion was broiitdit. I undersl'iiid, before the notice of all the missionaries of other denominations in .lapnn. ■.v> as to enlist their Hyinpathy and co- operation " All those lhiii:i ge. together lo show that the originator of tho liislltutiiui ini'Mided to make il not only to le I he centre of our miHsioii, but n.ls'i the centre of all the missions in .lapaii. " Hut as the liesireil substantial hel|i and co-operation dir Khy hail lo come to de|>eiid etitil'olv on the sympathy and r«>sourees of his own .S.,eiety tji maintain and carry the wmk iii tiihi.i<.r5 of xiorM toough* i'. ,or- entlv. T«v,t tjOO^V ;i«< i«4i a ,'i m I he work A. hat of • he rnhernscjB 'o . « ii.wicii in .!«;»!« at the pr'-seiil hour, aiicl WHN the ..fly luiMir k by v'hieii ' •la}ian was to !„• \ on fir Christ.' and i <. or:,, i y thn«e who were not in s,. ii|(8tliy «ithsuch a liiovr.iut)! ,|, ^ i. •■ d i \rt\tt' ><• irj to lie •ti^lna' ll/.ed ns men iiehind ('J line. 'J- »i -iifri • the evangelistic iiii'd and work in :'ie ^T».„viot 'ji«n. i • Macdonald was taken to lie one. 'I i; , ; M ■' 'i Oouiicil was ili\ideil; Or. Maisionald on one sid' .iii Pr. Eb> • ith hit allies in the other side I>r, Cnchnn rf..i,i:iied neutral when he wp« hce. I jiiijgii .Mr, Whiltiiigton was nomewhat on the side of ))r Mach'tmld wlo'ii he »n« hole I am not lieie lilaniinn one or the other, nor ciitici/ing the work of the Tabei.',a'<1s. but simply Mtating tho facu as I see them, and how tho immcu ami harmony came to he disturbed Riiiong the luimionariei. "Dr. Kby wanted dilFerent sorts of workers for the Tahir iiacle, mid the lady-worker wa» one of the sorts. He up proached the ladies of the Azabu girls' school, nnd asked them to send a lady or ladies to the Tabernacle, where they would make another lieHilipiarter for the woincn'H work, so that there should be two heaihiuarlera in Tokyo — Azabu and Hon^i, This rcoucst or | lopostil did not meet with tho approval of ilii> \\ oman s Council, and only u lady nnd a Jai>anese Bible- woiiran were sent from Aziibu to hell) the work in Hongo, just in tin. same way as the other churches of ours in 'hat city(Tokj..) are helped by the Woman's Society. Of course this was iiu satisfaction on the side of the Superintendent, nnd it is s»ii) that those ladies sent were not properly treated or kimlly received by the Tahcrnacle, and conseipiently th';y were Willi drawn, very unpleasant feelings being naturally created nn both sides. The Woman's Council, some time after, proposi.l to o] en and cKlablisli a girls' schiail at Nagano, in Shinslmi. where Mr. Oiiiiloti was then working. Ho opposed ili. luoposal on the ground that if theio were ladiea to h\kuv they .should be sent lo the Tabernacle, instead of Nagaini. where a girl-school was not wanted, according to his ju.lf mcnt. Then ntipleai'ant feelings, or 'fricthm' between .Mi Ounlop and the Wlunan's Council was begotten. Uef ■!<■ this, ir alter, I do not know exactly which, some cross fi 1 1 ings were created between the i.ulies at Kanaziiwa and Mr .Saiiiiby, in regiinl 'o soit'cwork for 'lie orphanage :>r sonio otlor umlti'ia. Mr I'assiily, too. had .some trouble with the ladie^ "i Sliiziioka girl school concerning the Sunday-schocl work, iiml some bitter correspondences were carried on between him .oul Mrs. Ijirge, You can imagine what will be tho result, winn all these men ami the other tneinbers of the Council coiiii- loyelher and talk abi'Ul the matters. Similar experiences .in.l one syiiipaihy nniled them together, and thus the harmony between the two Councils was disturliod. " Now the above somewhat lengthy yet outline statenieii! i the rel.iiions and iiiler-relntions of the persons and affairs \. II, 1 IruHl, LMve Mill the meaning and force of my statement in il; beginning of this piiragraph. " i;. Their altiiudo towards the Woman's Council and tow ul Or. .Macdonald : " Tliey wr.. , i),,t nil iilong sat ished with the actuma of in, Wotiian's Council ; that body did not move exactly ns lliv wished, or as they judged it ought. They thought that if tin' body eonliniieil to exist as a distiint am! se|i;iratt body, iImi could Hot goon with the work vory well, atu! wisi ed to uhii ihc two Councils into one, iiiider oiio control. 1 thiik if '!;.■ I wo Coiini.'ils could iiiiite in some ,vay, and tho men aiid woimh .ill eiiiie loi;ether at the time of the Coiifeience, it wouM ii pleasant, and I lie ellert wi iihl be very beiiehclal. So I 11,; their proposal in ilnelf was plausible ; but tiiough a propos;il ithclf limy be good, yet the motive and purpoMo of making n often miniiiiilerslooil. The jHire motive for Uliiiltereated g " 4 la very rare either. I'o'ir huiiiau Intirmity goes intoeverytliiii;; of the liiinian affairs : at al' events the proposal was not wiH received by the Wiuiian H Coiiiieil, that thougl t it meant or u. temleil llif subjeetioii of w..iiien lo men's potter. And bcM-li- the ladles had their ow n uood reason to remain as they «.i I'r. Mac'iiinlil. will, did not see any dilhculty for the 1,, monloi.s work if iliey were separated, was in sympathy with :i ladies. Here agaiii their plan for tli.' work was frustrated, n ; 1 onRei;iii ti'! •-1.. 'r alliliuie towards tho Woinati'b Council .m Or. Macdonald will very unhappy. ' '!. Tho .ip;iiiui' reason why I hoy were opiHised to Mi- 1, argil and Or M.u 1 iiald : '■ I piesutue, tint all lli.ise slatenietits made in tho above •« parauiaplis voiiiii. ..f iheiiiselves, explain to you the probiii !. r .ts.. why ! ;iev I' ere so niiich ojiposed to Mrs Ijiige and h: 'laciloii.. ■; 'V'.,.y tli,,ui.|it tliiii It WHS Mrs. l.argo who, irolhd the Woman s Coumil as its head, and that she . hsMiig her own way loo niiicli So Or. Maedonald, too, as ■ head of tli,.|r Council, accorilliig to their notion. And 1 • were, lliey jiidu-eil, too obstiniitely and loo poweifully stall.: "Il the way of cirryiiiL' their plaiiof the work to its legilin . . end They wished. lluToforo, to lia\c them removed out oM! . wiiy b\ all iiiiaiis pc c-ible, or else Ihej thought thoy could n ■ remain in the work. Hi y ave de perale. in fact. The foil. » itig three Incidenlal liem.. will gi\e s,,nio light on tho iioliil '•!<•) Mr I'liHtes spoke lo me freely about the position i ' I i" and his frieii.l-. nieiilioiiing hcv ilu.y were offended agaliisi ' Hoard, against you, and iigainst f'r. Maedonald, and thai 1, > linally Iliey came iiiiatiimnuslv to the poini todeclare they c i not siiiy in llie w..ik. if the ,.ialo of things n'niain as th'ej :. and lli.it the mission In.iible was allrihutable ullim.ileiy to n. person he iiieiint Mrs. Large). I am giving here his s. ■ ni.'tit, II. .1 Ills wolds, nil, I (bin t.ilk was i. few weeks after P. MHcdoiialil eaiiie back froin Csiiada the last fall. 0.) Mr ^^ H. Stewart wr..te tne a letter on the date of March 4, !■•:' 6M [r^"^ PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS— THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 88 'ouiicil and tine intrigues anu partisanship were also playing m the dark orncr, p'-'rhaps. So the trouble has been of cumulative and loinplicating nature, and it lias taken quite a long while to Tow to the present magnitude, and consequently it is very Jjifficult for solution, Surely no personal elements a*, first, but It present I think it is very didicult to say where the per!>jn- llities are not mixed in. Vours faithfully, "V. Hiraiwa." SUMM.\RY AND CONCLUSION. Summary. The nature of the preceding Review has been such |h.it condensation has been virtually impossible. To re iiember so long a docuinenl, treating such a variety of spies, would be equally impossible. I'ornnt me, then, to ecall the main divisions, and concrete eac'h in a few sen- ences. For this (uirpose 1 will m>M)tlon the divisions in tlieir order : 1. Thk Mission Cohncii.. — It has beer, shown that |he ('ouneil was not essential ; that it was formed chiefly |t the wish of one of the brethren ; that it developed (fnileniies inimical to peace and harmonious working — endencies to undue interference, to e.xtravagant expendi- tire, to make common cause of the demands of individ- BbIs, and, in late years, to antagonize the Hoard on all Iccasions. Such tendencies the Hoard was bound to heck, but did so with courtesy, witi: dignity, and with noderation. 2. ('kh.orkn's Allowances.— Here it has been shown hat the Hoard gave timely notice of a change, and had no Bconsiderahle reason for its course of action ; that the TOteU of the missionaries was so dictatorial in tone and Ktravagant in demands as to alienate sympathy, and com elleil the Hoard to speak in words of rebuke ; that the krar.gement linally in.ide by the Hoard i'idical"il a liber- Bity not known in any oilier of our mission (ields, whicii »s constituted the Jap.in missionaries a privileged class ; nd that, had the demands of the missionaries been fully onieded, stipends and children's allowances on the Japan Eld would have become a contract, collectable by civil rocednre in a court of law. 3. CoMi'LAivTs OF Harsh TRt;ATMK.NT havt> been juarely met, and it has been shown that tbev have ivi existence save in the heated imaginations of those who uttered them. In no single instance i;an it be pointed out that the Hoard has rendered an unjust decision, or that any decision has been conveyed to the missionaries in harsh lanj u.ige or in an unkind spirit ; while provision for the support of 1 11. missionaries has been so liberal as to cause sore comp'.aii.ing on .';ome other fields. Or if a lingering doubt still remains the missionaries are challenged to pro- duce a single a ithenticated fact in support of their com- plaint. 4. Concerning the Self-sijpport Movement, it has been shown that it was unwise in its conception and fruitless in results ; while it br mght into the Mission Council elements that were completely out of sympathy with the Board and its policy, and made it one of the main factors in the strife that has disturbed and threatened to destroy the mission. 5. The Claim for Expenses on the part of Messrs. McKen/.ie and Crummy has been shown to be uncnable, and that the Board was justified in refusing it One of the micirnaries received his expenses from the fund of the Self-support Hand; the other had the same right but waived his claim ; that both spent three years or over in the Self- support Hand, and were fairly entitled to their expenses from ih.Tt source, which one of them actually received; that coming into the regular work was an advantage to them and not a sacrifice, as it gave them a permanent position, pay on a gold basis, with incidental advantages which they would not have elsewhere. 6. The Central Tabernacle Scheme has been care- fully reviewed, and it has been clearly shown that in its inception it was wliolly a visionary and impracticable scheme, and that even in the form it eventually assumed, it was not only exceedingly expensive, but because of the exorbitant demands of it.i promoter it became a disturbing force', and has caused most of the unhappy friction between the missionaries. T'his is a strong statenicnt, which should be proved or withdrawn. I pause, therefore, long enough to state the circumstances th.it have made the Tabernacle a disturbing element in the Mission : (1) The very nature of the movement.- While leaning upon the Church for support it stood apart from our regular work — was conducted on different 'ines — even went so far as to proclaim itself non-denominai inal. (2) Dr. Eby's exorbitant demands, which Dr. Mac- donald and the home authorities had repeatedly to resist. {7,) The vast expenditure. — This was a cause of dissatis- faction to many natives and foreigners al'' ■. who felt that the same amouiit of money expen-'^d o ci:^" cliurches worked in the ordinary way, would h.iv better results. (4) The inflated reports, m whicli greatly exaggerated his own work ani! implication, ami even by direct slai work of his brethren. (5) The necessity which it created cil iiiio line witli Dr. Kby's policy, n; . the coming in of the Self sujiport n^en. (6) Ry ant.igoni/ing the Worn i: Council and its work. The women could not suijiiiit t- i )i Eby's domination. They knew the weakness of his voi k. avid the unwisdom of bis plans, and felt that it would be wasting their efforts and resources to follow his lead. 7. The Return of Dr. Env \ni. His Family, though somewhat irr<'gular, was met by the Hoard in a spirit ol kindness and liberality, and expenses were provided on a lil)eral scale. Hut the negotiations in regard to Dr. Eby's return again revealed the vacillating character of his move- ments, the uncertainty of Ills plans, - .i tiso the determln.i- tion of the Council to maintain the v .. inds of one of its members against the judgment and decisions of the Hoard and Executive. 8. The Reciuest oI' the Missionaries to be Re- CALi.EK. — It has been shown that the reasons assigned by the missionaries for this step were chiefly based on misap- prehensions, and even were it not so, they were insufficient to justify so grave a proceeding. T'here is als,/ reason for oducea .Tstly Eby not only results, but by 111, minified the sorking the Coun- possible through «}) -pmx^ 84 GENERAL HOAIU) <>K MISSIONS, Isii.'.. believing that the real design of the rt'i|ucst was, as tlu^ I'resbyterian missionary put i*, to "force the Hoard. " 9. Dr. Macoo.nai.d -1 have clearly shown that Dr. Macdonald's whole course, from first to last, was wise, loyal, judicious, conciliatory ; that his work has l>cen suc- cessful, and that he has devoted his powers, as well as the results of his medical practice, to our mission interests ; that the complaint that he does net preach is only an appeal to prejudice among those who do not know the facl.i of the case ; and that to allow him to he dismissed now would not only be an ungrateful return for long and faithful service, but a mo.st injudicious thing for the future of the mission. to. Upon the Shizhoka Church Akkair 1 make no comment, save to say that it shows the value of having a man like 1 )r. Macdonald to handle a crisis. 1 1. Thk Strife Hetwkkn tiik Missionaries has liccn presented chiefly in records from .Minutes of Council.s, Executive Committees, and letters fron missionaries, and these make it clear that Tabernacle, Councils and individuals have each had their share of responsibility, and that less selfishness and more of the spirit of Christ would have averted the whole trouble. i^uentioni AnitwereJ. And now, looking for a few moments beyond the Board to that wider constituency, the Methodist peoplt, who fur- nish the sinews of war and have a right to know how the missionaries on the one hand, and the Board and it^; ofhcers on the other, are discharging their resjiective duties, I proceed to answer, in few words, (piestions that were first suggested I y the two returiitd missionaries, and have sim e been rejieated, with varying degrees of emphasis, by hundreds if not thousands of contributors to the mi.'ir>iuiiary fund who know only one side ol the story and that side very much distoilcil. l>o you ask, tlien, I .say to the Methodist people, lyAol i)rf the causes of the friction and strife l>etween the missio'i- aries 0/ the two Seia'eties in Japan I I answer that, as regaros estrangements between individual missionaries, they seini to have begun in little sparks of misunderstanding thai, fanned by ilie breath of gossip and tale-bearing, kindled smouldering fires of mutual suspicion and dislike, and rendered more difficult the adjustment of wider differences. As regards friction between the two (Jnuncils, this may have had its teal starting-point in the suspicions and jealousies of which I have just spoken, but truth compels me to state ih.'^t a potent factor was the persistent endeavor of certain members of our own Mission Council to dnmin ate tfie work and workers of the iVoman's -Missionary Society. Dr. Macdonald c.ills it a "crusade,'' and it looks as if the word were none tf)0 strong. Do you ask, Wh\ has the Hoard of Missions and the Executive Committee treated the missionaries harshly and cruelly t I answer, there is no ground whatever lor the question. I have showii clearly in my Review, and still maintain, that the Board and Kxecutive have always treated thi japan missionaries with a degree of consideration and lilK-rahty that has no parallel in any of our other missions, and the more fully this matter is incjuired into the niore rlearly will it be seen that the missionaries have not the shadow of a reason for complaint upon this point. Do you ask, lVh\ has the Secretary been so Itarsh and arbitrary in his dealings and correspondence with the /apan missionaries 1 I answer emphatically that the Secretary has l>een neither the one nor the other, and he challenges the production of a single letter or document of his. or any well authenticated incident, to prove the contrary. In not one single instance, in matters of any moment, has he acted on his own res()onsibility, but always by direction of the fJoard <(r I-Aeculive. He affirms that in his private or semi- private correspondence, which has been considerable, his lettci-s have always been most brotherly , while in his official correspondence with the Council, through its Chairman, even when under necessity, by order of the Bo.ird or ICxecn- tive, of speaking in terms of rmonstrance, or possibly of rebuke, the language has always been courteous and digrn- fied, and the spirit Vind. In a cnrresfwndence extending over iwd.Tiid-lwiiity year.s, the Secretary can recall but ,1 1 single instance in whi( h he might be said to have forgotlin tlie admonition, "Rebuke not an elder, but entreat hi,ii as a brollur," and that instance belongs to a period far ante cedent to the present troubles. ] Do you ask, H'hy is Dr. Macdonald retained in Japan, a. repnsenlatwe 0/ the Hoard, a_t:ainst the wishes of the missi.'n aries I 1 answer, because he was never more needed ihiri- than now , because from the first he has been the ni.mi strength of the mission among both natives and foreigner^ because he h.is always been thoroughly loyal to the Board, maintaining its policy and carrying out its decisions, and 11 is this very fidelity that has been the chief cause of ilu- antagonism of other members of the Council. Do vui still ask, /j iwt Dr. Macdonald merely a practisini^ physician, and does not this disi/iialijy him from being the Execultu- head of the Mission! I answer. Dr. Macdonald is a nudi cal missionary, as much a missionary as Mr, Crummy, wid IS head of the theological department of the college, ,1, much as any other man m the field. I affirm after tweiuv years of intimate acinininlance with the Ja|)an Mission, tli.u Dr. Macdonald has dune as muih and as good mission, irv work as any man we ever sent into the field, and is doin. to day, in my judgment, more and better work than soin of those who clamor for his rciuoval. And if further i'\: dence is needed that his medical practice does not disquali him for ministerial duties and functions, you have it in th action of the japan Conference, which year after year, wu singular unanimity, reelects him to the presidential chair To dispense with Dr. Macdonald s services at the presi n; juncture would not only be to lose the chief farif r in the success of the Mission, but would weaken \ir'. materially the bond o( union with the Jajianese, and \\\\ likely prtcipit.ite the racial conflict that has already disturhr.i the peace of other missions. Do \ (HI ask, !l7i»/ are iie/li/iialifiiil nt^tt like Dr. Kl-i r'ud ,)tr. CaKni'/i/ kepi in thin rooiitrif, irhile irnrker.i .n. oifdi'il io .Japan ! Waiving for the present the (juestion 1' ipialification, which has many sides, I answer ; It is Ih-'cuim they have trouliled Israel ; because they have been a (1> tutbing element in the Mission and the Mission Council, and between the Council and that of the Woman's Misiiion.iri Society ; because it was clearly perceived there would ir mi pe.ice in the .Mission while they remained, and thai • send them back would increase the existing friction instt.in of allnviny it. rhe\ would go to antagonize Dr. M.ir donald, to antagoni/e the Woman's Council, to antagoin/i the Board and its polii y, unless that policy were cmn pletely rev the la'lies of liw Woman's Mission their ownExe(ui,>i will ill al with that question; but suppose what has In said ol them wen true, it is well known that it tak(-s two make a (|iiaritl. and if our missionaries found they ci.ii : not .igree with the lady missionaries, they had still ti alternative of quietiv letting them alone. Whatever 11 be true of the course pursued by these ladies, I am bom to say that iL-.d Dr. F.by .md .Mr. Ca.ssidy been more 1 1 rmied Inr the |.'.>ait- of th( Church and the success of 1 ■■ Mission than for carrying out thiir own plans and view thire would have been no (piarrel in lipan. Conclusion I have thus tried, in all honesty of purpose, to lay bcfou the Board a fair and candiil statement of the facts win. I' touch the difliculties in the lapaii Mission. Where tlu . 79 '■•/.l.Pt^Wf'WW,; PROCEEDINGS UK JAI'AN AFFAIRS-THE SECRETARY'S REVIEW. 85 ieemed to he faults, I hav(' stated tln'iii as nentlyas lidelity the truth and the interests of tlie work would permit, ^nd have passed over much that nii^sht have emphasized ay statements, heing anxious to say only as much as wpnid utficj to vindicate the Board and Kxe'.-ulive, and lustity ny administration of the Soriety's affairs. And even that Buch I have said with great rehictance. Tiiose now pre- ent who have h'en members of the Board and Kr. Kbv was to be lied u|H)n to inaki' his statement. TliK OllAIUMAN -Any others that are here as witiie-.se.s. lore is the olfioial stattMiieiit. It is supposed to eivor the rhole ground. These otiier piiitieH are here as witnesses, Ind it may not lie neoessarv to 7' '■ •.,»w,wff7«'»^fr"- 86 (JENICRAL BOARD (»F MISSIONS. 1805 letteni that liuve «>me Ihruugli all Uimb yearn. Hfl liun had lK iiH will lio vi'iy I'oHM'ninit tu meet it, also, wIh'Ii 1 am projMirly pirpaii'd tor it. Wn lia\c lii'ic wit- nehKe» that arc supiKiscd. 1 |)ivKiim(\ to lie in I'avoi' of the fiU!t.» ftH |irotlue('(l. Th-rc arc otiicr ) i'Ihoiih in this country that have ooijni/jini'o al«o ot thi'so t.iirifjt, and an- touched by them, directly or indirectly. I want just to think over the Hituation and we w hat w ill be ihe wisctit and lie.sl • do in the meantime. Hut that is my n^iuest. Dr. SiTilKliLAM)- JnsI to prevent any misapprehension at this stage : j\k I understand it, this diHumeiit that I have read is not a charge or scries of charges iigainst the missionaries, iiulividually or collectively. It is- an answer to the charges the niissionivric' have nuide against the Secretary and against the Kxr ii'ive • i:nd it is also an answer to the (ii'Uiand of tlii' misM, eaiics thav we thould say why ihev svere called limine fni.i .lapaii. Mil. tit KNl.v — In the initial stages of the m'ctings of this committee we found ourselves with bo'.ii feet and hands in the air. We had no poini to start fiin.i. We were all desirnu.i of knowing the whoi( truth »ith regard to the whole .lupan matter. Hut we had no moiliin n/tr andi. Dr. Sutherland was call.d upon, l)r. !,by was cilled U))cn, Mr. I'a.-sidy was callether .-ouree of information was iiftiirded to us except ihat of the (oneial Sccielary. We have sat here for two days, ami traversed perhaps the whoie ground. We have henid n succession of facts since 188?, covering the whole history of the Mission, and its association viith tjio Woman's Missionary Society from that day to ihis. Now it seems to me tliat having been over t'lis ground once, that this is the urouiid and the course of travel which should lie fullnwifi bv (his Coin- inittee frmi beginning to end. It seems to pie th.it nnuitie th.it diw;ents from the docui.ient.s, a.'i repiesenlirig tads, or from the f.irls as ".taled by Dr. Sulhei land, or by any other pciMiii^ who are broiii'lit here as witnesses, anyone who olijei-ts to the conche.ions that are included in that dtK-ii- '.nent,- should follow the lim- of the document, and if, in justice to «iiyl"dy who is conneeied with this movement, who is connected with this Mission, it is necessary that there shc.uld be a deflection from the coiinw^ followed by this document, that di flection can be followed when we aniveat that [wiint in the dis'uuicnt ; but ii appears to me that having been led over this grouial, «i- sinmid follow the lines that have been laid down, as no otlnr lines wtn- ati'orded t<» u.s from any other sse it is the proper thing to cull ui'ii Dr. Kby I In "'Jiv I wish the stenographer would ite kind enon:;!. to read what I said on Saturiiay night, t am very inn. h ililiged to the I'siard for ttie opportunity of rest on Saiu: dav night, so as to tjilk over 'he situation, think over n. and ^et myself rested a bit, so as to make up my miml ' • exiictly the ionise of actiiui ! would lake And tin i. I am very thankful to the gisui I.onl for the .Sunday i' .i came in Is'twccn and gave me a rest, to make it pos,--!'. for me to ap|«-ar hciT this morning. Of course I would i ' spend the Sunday for the puifmse, nor on Satui-day ni.li' did I >|>end veiy much time in actual preparation ; bin 1 am prepared with some preliminaries to clear the way, .. I then I shall try, after a briei interval, to complete i, \ staleiiiiist, iind if ptissible do it before we go to i. i tonight That is my object. 1 asked the stenogiapl . r lo read llie report of my wonls on Saturday night, Is cu: • there are some thiiiys in that statement that I would w .. to modify. If I lecollecl rightly I denominated this st.n. inent of Ihe .S'crctary's "a terrdic indictment." 1 1 correction I want to make is just this, that after a lit' fulli'r coiisideiation and rest and conversiition, I h made up my mind that it is not so teriiiic after all, i the solemn way of pleading luit guilty to crimes thai . l«'rhnps largely imaginary, was not necessary. That i-^ i )sisition. I just wish lo take all that back. This morn i . as 1 said before, I would just simply static some fireliii .;i ary points, iind I shall use as f , w words as I iwissiblv co., so as to save Ihe lime of the committee. I want to ti .' the whole ipiestiim troin la-ginning to end just in lie- "" that I can as a missionary and a brolher. I'mu-custim . i to legal forms or piecedure, or technicalities of that kin '■ am sin-ply gomi; on the line of |ter.sonal experience. Tli- you will see just where all these points touch in tl ' experience, and how they alh-ct me, and how [ have ~. ■ the situation as it evolvi.i in my experience. I wani ' Is- iM-rfccily o(>/-n, perfectly frank in everything. Thei. on.- thing that I have always tried to follow, and thai ' 111 luuhce be yi- children ; " in malice and in manipul.H I .-un a pi'rfect child. The fii-st piece of ex|ierience I v\ lo tell is about the attitude of mind m which I cain. ' this meeting, and just where 1 staiiil at present. We hi. of course, a grisl ili-al of conversation in jiublic and in '■ I'less; there have been a gixsl many things said ,ind d.-n.. back and foi<- an-^i I had an experience lust year in lii' ■ '.^■"■\ ' ,.i..;. ' -T PROCEEDINU.S «A' JAPAN AFFAIRS. 87 lint CuiiiiniHNion, and in tho Hoitnl, wiiirh Ims iii:ii|>' nn- it ^ittlu (iiiliioUH iihimt hiiviii^ |uu't'r»t fiilr play , iliat wits lint |ertlin>; lint F Imd aliiii){ for it I'diisiiinntliiit li'ii^'lli ut' Uimt. lAml lliin waH imt rcinuvnd in tin' Miiinni'r in wliicli I wiis linviteil to coini' to tliis inmituiK, I will just rciiil th" w.iy fin whicli tlio invitittion I'lmu' lo nn . itn annual linotttinj; of tlic IViard of Minsionn in Montri'itl." (That !w:iH a ininti'd diMiuncnt that you havi! all siM-n.) "I ' Ht'nd thih for your inforiiiatioii, so that if you dccMilo Ui attend tint HfHsion of tlic lioaiil, provision ciin lie made for [your ai'coinnKxlation. Will you kindly loinnmnicatc with 'the Hev. Dr. Mnnter ii-Hpi'ctin^f a liillfl, I have told Dr. Hunter that I would a.sk you to do this. " Yours faithfully, " A. Sl'TIIEUl.A.ND," To this 1 replied in a few Words ; " Dkah DocToii, Your favor of the l.'HIi caiue duly to hand apprising inr of the ini'etinK "f the Hoard, and enclosing printed progiainnir of the services. The notice strikes nic as very arnl)if,'ui>us. I cannot tell whether my presence is desired liy the authorities or not. Will you kindly inform me whether 1 am ollicially wanted at the Hoard meeting or not, and ^'ri'ally olilit;e. "Yours, ('. S. Km. ' To thai communication I recei\eil this reply Du. SliTHKHl.AM* - Will you allow nae to say that this, that Dr. Khy is ^{oing to read was dictated and typewritt<'n before I receiviMi the note fiom him which he has just M-ad, so that thin, which is in ii crtiiin sense a leply, was writt^Mi liefore receiving' the note to which it seems to be .1 reply. Du. EuY — I wan just j?"'"S? t" ""y tl'i't tl's atatoinent of Dr. Sutherland was not interrupted by explaiuitions on the other side. 'lllK (^-'llAIUMAN -1 will try and keep you wilhoiit inlci- ruption. I will say "hands oH'." You fin idiend. I..et anybody that has anythini,' to say make noti's. Dli. F.liv rends ; " In sendinv! you a nolilication ol thi^ nieetiiif; of the ' ■encral Hoard, I forjjot to inform you, although jierhaps il was unneceH.sary, of a recoiniiierulation of members of the Kxecutive Contmittee that a slalement which you wished to present hIiouUI be made to the HoanI instea I, and to this you affrecd, It is allo)ielher likely that .lapiin matters will receive much attention iit the Hoard meeting', and that several returned lady niissiiuiaries will lie present to >;ive •■vidence re<;anlinK nuittvrs of which they may have per- sonal knowledge. With these fiu^ts in view you will Im- the )H>st judf{0 whether it is in your inleiesi to attend the I'oard meetinj;. Your name was sent to Dr. Hunter, with iilliers who would prob,itily reijuiie billets, and I reipiested you to notify linn whether you will be preseni or not. " Youis faithfully, '• A. SUTIIKHLAND." This wits the first intimation that I hud of a preparation for something that seemed like an indictment with .i score of ivitncHses provided. I did hear indirectly, I forj.;et how, that Dr. Kntherland was prcparinjf a very serious docu ment, and here was this preparation jjoiiiK on, and the intimation, even this second one, comes lo me simply to .■■ay that there is probably soniethinjx of this kind K<''"g •" liap|ien, and if I iinil it to my interest lo jK*ii DocroK. I iiin reipiesti'il by Dr. (,'j.rman lo say lliiit he thinks if advisable that you should be in Montreal durinj; the .sessinii of the Hoard. Uei>Mdin;i the ijuestion of expense I c.'iniiot speak di'liniiely, as that is a matter "hich is always oonsidoreil by a connnittee of the Board. " Y'oui'H faithfully, "A. SfTHERLASD.' Here was an intimation that I had better lie in the city. It hioked very much as if th< re was a movement on hand to have me in the nei;{hborhooil, ho that 1 could be (sailed in, perhaps, as on the 'JOlh of .laniiary, when a bit of a trap NOHiiied tji be spruiiK upon me, without an opportunity of prejiaration. No intimation whatevor, no re(|ueHt U> come to the Hoard. Then I get a fourth communication from Dr. Sutherland, dated the 1st of October. It came to me just the morning before I started. I would not have got it if f hitd gone as I expeuted by the morning train : " Dbak Uootok, — In convorsiition with several memliere of the (leneriil Hoard within the past two days, tho opinion has been expres.sed that it is very desirable you should attend the sension of the lioard in Montreal, and I think they will expect you to make the staUMiient of which you once spoke in the Kxecutive Committee. "Yours faithfully, "A. Ht THEKLAND." Here, at the fourth effort, we have the invitation at last to come to the session of the Hoard in Montreal, under pressure from tho (ieneral Huperintiuidcnt, and then after- wards from memliers of this Hoard. After I came to tho ineetin;;, the steps in the w '\ of course threw no particular light on tho subject, b'rirnds were very corilial. When the statement was made, or at least partly umler way, \ asked for documents. Dr. Sutherland seemed to wish to prevent me getting out documents so as to be able to make a full reply, and the plan seemed to continue, to make it very inconvenient for me to be able to make a full reply to the Hoard. Whereupon the brethren in the Hoard promptly suppresse 1 tliat sort of thing. 1 saw at onco that the brethren here this year determined to h ive fair play on all sides, and I felt at once that the enviroiiinent in w liicli I was nio\iiig was a ditt'erent one from that in which I found myself last year, si> far as this Hoard is concerned, and I made up my mind at once that I would throw mvself uiKin the Hoard, and present the whole case as brielly anil as fully as I could Di( T. (■' Williams — Would Dr. Kby allow me to ask I'le date of the last iiotilication / Dli. Env -The 1st of October. The first is the 13th of September, the second is the ISth of September, tho third is the 'JTth of September, and the fourth is the 1st of ( Iclober. Then, I come to the doctiment as a whole. The heading of the document I had not seen when I asked the other day what the document really was, and I finil it is header all when sifted by legal minds lliore seems really to lie very little of a serious charm ter in it, except that [ was a little over-sanguine, that my enthu- siasm ran away with my Vjctter judgment, and overran the judgment of my brethren at home and abroad, and that T inti'rfered, as a result of that enthusiasm, unduly with the agents of the Woman's Missionary Society. That seems to be the sum and substance of tho 'vliole difficulty. Then looking at it from tlie .t.tndpoint of a layman and business man. it .seemed to me, so far as T could find out from the ^'..'#»r J!-: M8 QENKKAL BOARD OK MISSIONS, 1«93. oiiv ur iwo llml 1 alHik)' willi, tliikt afti'i all, Mi|i|> all ti'iip, tliriT lilt' Miiiii' tliiii^N uliirli n niiiii llli^lll winli lit' liiiil not iloiii', C'lTiiiK iif |iiil^iii"iit Iti a ii'M iitTH, and yt't, at'tci' all, iiiitlnii^ lo inilitnlc iially a){aiiiNt a iiihii'h clininctcr iiinially, iir an a iiii>i|K(t'i', nr nlliii n\ Ihi' ; tlial lite waH Ix I'uii' liini a^> ^ood nx I rluii', ami (hat iIiitk uhh im iH't'uiiiiiri 111 li)'(iill((i a (iiH^Mi'cil iiiiHKioiini V on utviaiiil of any tliiii); tliHt. «aN tliiTf. '1 hiil Hrcniiil to l><< tii« iiii|)r)'i< Hion fiom two stiinil|KiintH. Tlicn the- (jucstion aroNti aH to wlicllirr tlirxi- niiitlrrN in tli't 'loruiiiciit an- true or not. To timt, of ioiiim', I lull' t midit'^N uiVNi'lt'. Itccaiihi', aK a inattrr of l.u'l, I cannot take tiiix Htatenu'iil an a trii)' statcnicnt of I'acti'. Tlial wlioli' docimicnf, from l.fniniiiii^ to rnd, in u vrry i'Ii'mtIv prt'purcd liistoriral lirtion. 'Ilnir arc licrc and llicrr a few fuels that hervc uh linkH to eonni 1 1 to^ellier n lur^o amount of |>ure imagination ; a line woik of ima^jinatioii it IH, and if I were m.t ko implicated in it mYself I ^lloldd enjoy llic p\veliological Ntuily tl.at in liniii>;nl out ni llic contliel of mind in tliut work of inia^inaliiin«lt' pa^'"'. ' ihink, aside petliapN frtim the description of Ilr. NIai doiiald - (of emn-ne, theie ;„ vc' • ijt' . i,, fiiat that I do nol n^iee with perfectly) UHide troiii that, in inatU'iN that nfer In invsclf paiticii- larly, and to the MiKMon Coimcil, there in not a (laue ihat I would not lraveis«', and liiiii); doeiiinCiitH or call for docuuientH, that would show that almost everything; is either put in it.s wriinj; setting:, ami in sinh it way as lo give a » rong im|iressiiin, or in ac|iially cintiary to the lads of tile ca^se. If I did that, ami lic^an al the 'leKiiuoii^' and went over every item of that di-sci iptioii, it would laki' a long time tor us to get to the end of it, iHpeiially if my gtiiteniints were controveileil, and ar^'lllllelltN were iiisli tuted, and witnesses wcri' innile to i*)ieak. You might he ke]it here a whole inonlii. The CiiaiiiuaN — Wo aio here, Kiiitlier, to stay. We will put it through. I'll. Kliv (resuming) — We have tlfly-tive pages of closely prinletl matter thai t'xik two wlmle days to read, and if we Ixgin at the iM'giiining of that, and go through il seriatim, it will take a long lane. Itut my piopni.iinin is not to take a long time, and to go through it in detail in that kind of a way. If this thing .stringsoul a long ilislanee, the res(xiiisil)ility will have to Ix' on .soinelx dy else What I wish to do is t I have just a short time to take the dueu- nient Hiiil make groups of statements tint seemecl In he nearly alike, so as to make little groups of fiKt.s, and llii'ii present a stiiteimitU* regardiiiit that group nf fails, and take one out of the whole simply to pi-ove my point, and leave the whole of ihe rest in yum' hands with my statement t)Verted or not, as |tr. Siilheil.iml or anylxxly else may reiiuire. That is the plan that I have in my mind just now. I want ti get ilixMiments, nol for every tiling that is tlieri', hut for three or fnur principal jmints, and then you will allow nii* lo clalxaate sii as to make each one very clear to the hrethren, anil thai will 1«> enough as s|ieciineiis of Ihe wlaile. Tlu'ii I want to go over a.s hrietly ii-s 1 can the history of the .S'lf support movement, the history of the Talx'riiacle cMihition. the liistory of my contact with the Wuman's .MissioiiHiv Smii'l v, or their agents in •lapan. and tiien leave the ni.ii ler w iih you. Now, in orderto du this, to just systeinati/e it. so us to save your time, and present this Htatemeiil in the hriefest and clearest inaiiner, I a.^k you to give nie until this even- ing, and if il liwhn your convenience we can have an even- ing session. 1 wil! try, if I can. ttt the ^e this matter .if l»r. Khy's Is per haps, except in the way of ihrowiiig light upiin the very serious i|Uestions Ix'fiiie 'he committee, a inatler almost piirelv pei'sdiial. |)r. Ilhv has resigiuKl. His resignation is lucepli'd. The other i|uestiiiii Is'foi-e the ciimmittee is as 111 the coiillnuatiii!! if the act iif the Kxecutive in recall ing .\lr Cassidy. Should that he concurnsl in or not ' The iiiosi seiiiius i|uesiiiin of all, and one in which this Hiiaid is asked to take the initiative and must act, is what is III he done with the reipicsl for lecill of the six mission ai ies in .lapan. In order to act wisely it will Ix- nis-essary for u~ lo gel all (xissihle liiiht on that siiliject. |)r. t'lK'h rail, and many of the ladies here, will Ix' ahle to give Us that, ami I see no reason why wt> shoidil not at niiee pro ceni with the other i|Ue-liiiiis, although Mr. Kliy may have a delay so far as he is persu.ially ciin"erne (wiili ii|Miii luiy |Hiiiil of wliii'li lii' Iiiih idtkoiiiiI Kiic»vIi'(Iki', iim you limy ii^k I'or it ; imd tlirKtnn' to imk liiiii lo iiiitki- It Htiiti'iiK'iit IN asking tVoiii liilii "ornitliin^ t'or viloi'li 111' i^ not lii'ir. I'liK CiiMiiMAN Wcwill 1k'j(1ii(I, of com^ii', lo luMir Iroiii the (liH'lor III iitiy liiiU', lull wi> will liui-dly nu|i|io^iI' lie Ih to j;in' ii> (I iKi'in'iiil ifvii'w of IiIn work. Mil. .Mm'I.mii.n I tliink tin- IIikI iiiiittiM foi iIi" lloiinl III I'onsiilt'f in ulii'llicr they riMjuirc the it iindiiiK "I' the HJioli- or iiiiy |»irt of tlic lliii'i' iIimiiiiii'IiIh lliat i mliody tlic '-ulijct't iiiattcr. 'I'liiit is, tlic lirxl I'oiiiiiiiiiiiiiil io:i ficiiii .liipaii, tint I'l'ply of till- l'!\i'<'ntivi' ( 'oiiiiiiillci , iiml llicii, of I'oiiisi, till' ('oiiuiiiiiiiiMi ion from llr. Mitcdoiiiild, mid tlii' sulMi'i|iirnt iii'iltcr Till* liiht li'ttrr from llir mlHsioniirit-.s wv liiivc ill print licforc iis. I think, wlii'ii «!■ '"'xiii, ««' oiii;lit to jiiHt Ht't' wlii'tlicr till' mi'iiiUrs of tlic jlimrd di'siii' till' lit i'('udiii|{ of liny |mrt of tlic docmni'iitM. I do not llki' to move, iH'oausit I am tn|i>ralily familinr u llli tlniii, liaviiiK Iktii at tin- |iri'viou-i mrftiii^s of tlir lio^tid And of llir l'',\i'i'iitiv<', and liaviii^' nail tlii-iii and liriird llirin nail a I'oiisidi'ralili' mimlii'i' of timrs. I lliink I know tlii'ir iiiiilinls pri'tly well. If tlii'y an- to In> ri'iid at all, I tliiiik lliis itt the liilii timr for it. TiiK t'liMliM^N 'I'lic motion ln't'ort' us is that lln' liirthnn should Ih' irrallid. It has to Ih' coiiHiiirn d whrthrr tho motion should not i-ontaiii a provision of this L'hariu'tt'r : As sihiii as proper provi-ion can U' made for till' work there; not to Iium' it peri'inptory, that It is done at the sacriUci' of the work ; liiit the expre'simi of the Hoard tliat they lie leialli'd as soon as provision can he m.ule fill- the woik there, liy the HxeeuliM' ( 'oiiimil tee. \S ill \oii have the readiiii; of the dnciiiiients ( .Mil. Ini'II I move that these letters and doiiinieiits he I ikeli as read. They have all heeii read. I»li. SiTllKiiLAM) - V\ ould thai preclude the callin;,' up of these docuiiientsiit any lime! Mi^jlit I say this, that as we uo on memU'i's of this committee iiiay lie in ilouhl as lo what is really said in aiiy one of these documents on a |iarticular point, and I suppo-e we would lie at lilierty to iiave the document called up, and any portion of it read. TliK CllMlivHN 'I'he motion liefore you is this, that II call liiivin;; lieeii made for the reading; of che documents and correspondence in this case, it is iioved that the diiciiiuiuts, haviiii; already lieen read, hi taken liy the Hoard for the pn'M'iil as read. Shall we take th in as read ( (Carried.) Now the main iplestion is hefore yii, that these lircthren, accordiiiL! to their reiiuesi, lie reialled. .Mil. .\iKiNs I would siiu'v'i'st thill |ir. ( Mchran he now lnaid, partii'iilarly on the point mentioned in the last letter, ri'spictinn which ipiestlon i^ made aUiut Dr. ('iH'hran's iesi;;imlion, and the reason of it. I would think it iicci^sar\, for instance, for that motion to havea preaiiilile iif lliis character, that allusion having hceu made in the •,t.ileiiicnt of the si.x iiiissionaries to |)r. < 'ochiaii s coiinic lion that you now hear |lr. Cochran mi that mailer. Mil. .M.VCUKKS — I thoii;.'lit of puttiiifi it iu this way : lo iiiovc that the lirst paiai,'raph on piiL't' II of the printed reply of the missionaries In' read, and also the i oncludin^' part of the p.ira;,'niph on pa^re l.'i, and that I'l C.ichran lie iiniied to speak on the suliject. .Mm AlKlNS I will put that iiiwiiliiif.' It is as fol- lows "Mo\eil liy Mr. .\ikins, seconded liy the Kev. Mr Woodsworth. That that part of the printed letter of the -.v ihisMnimiies on |>aj4es II, 1."), 1(1 and 17 relating; to l>r I'.ichran lie read, and that Dr. (.'ochran he n'.|iiested to make his htutement respei'tiiif; it. ' (Carried.) Hon. J. C. AlKlNS— The printed stiitemcnl is not otlicially liefore the lioard. I would su};),'esl that the primed statement lie put in as one of the documents, li.- laiisi' the resolution refers to the pages of the printed docu ment. (Sui/jiestion adopted.) Ukv. Dii. ItiiliiiiN I veiiliired to interrupt the readiiii,' of this by the (ieneial Secretary to s.iy, would it not lie worth while to slop for ii inoment and lei l>r. t'ocliiaii say ye.i or nay ; luit vmi sUL'^'csted that that ipiestion should lie postponed and asked at another time, rerliaps that time has now come. Tim: CiiAii(.M.VN The motion is that this statement he lead, and that now llie Chair renuest Dr. Coclinm to say what he Iiiih lo say with re){ar We are ^ettiim into ii iniHtako here. The ineetin;{ lefernil to whh in IM'.ll. It is the name of the place, and not the \ear that hIiouIiI Im corrected ; IHUI is ri>;ht. I think the place wiim St. .lohn. New lliunswick. I(l;v. Dli. C'lCiiiiAN —I have made no minute of the place, liiil simply the date, Octolier, IHIU. TiiK CiiAiiiMAN Is that this matter where we have been told alreiidv to correct the diitii ( IU.v. .Mil. SiioiiK.v Yes. TiiK CllAluMAN So that instead of correcting 1891, w« should correct " Winnipeg." Hkv. Dii. Si;tiikiii.a\|) It was at St. John, New Hriinsw ilk. Kkv. Dii Coi'IIUvn (ri'sumiiiK) — It wan intimated that this scale of allowances should take ell'ect the following year. It was supi'o.sed liy us in Japan that it would affect all, the older niissionuries as well as those who were yoiiijv'i'i' in the lield. Here is a copy of a lettei (o Dr. Sutherland, from win. ii I will read cerlain extracts that ur« relevant to this point ; "Tokyo, .IaTAN, Iknmh.r 10«/i, 1H(»1. " IH.AB Dk. SiiTHKKl.ANli,— Yourletterof tliB lOth Hi>|ituiiil)Br last leiicheil luu Oituliir HItli. iinil, us tlieru wiis nothing that laillcd fnr ii|ily, I ilefcricil wiiliiii,' uiitd iiuvv. 'I'lie ollicial Icttor to tliu Cliiiiriiiiin of lliu Misslnii ('oiiii,-il, ruportlii'^ tliiMiftiiiu of tlietlemriil H'liril with refeienie In the work in ■lapan, which ciiiiie hy tliii hist mail. t>\• will kiiully lay liefmii the (..'oiiiiiiittiJO of Km. nice, in your own «.iy, the Hiilwtance of whit folloivs, iiml lei iiiu have till' ileuisiciii of the oiiiinittue at as curly a iliile an may he cniivuiiieiit. I have carefully coiisiihreil tho new ri'gu- liitioim ailuptcl liy the I'oaril respi- liiiy applu-aiits, etc., etc., ami ciiii lieiiitily sav that I consiiler iiiem rca.sonalili' ami fair. The- Hiiaril has left itaulf rimm to c .usiilcr special casus, or apcclal leiitiires of nrilinary cases, that iiiimt frcc|iiently reiiuire attuiitiuu, mill I would now avail myself of thin provision." Then I menlniiiefl somethin>; in reference to the matter of mv expenses in returning,' to Japiin which were mit allowed when 1 retiirmsl fnim my furlough, purl of which were afterwards paid. In regard to this matter of my salary, I say : " May I iiientiiin another I hill','. When 1 ciuul' to .Ja|iaii in IHK4. the ceiiiiiiittcc waaijiwicl eniiuj;h to fix liiy Mipeiuliil ?),''<'<> per 11111111111, "ith what aeciiieii to me a pn.uiise thai it should iviiiaiii at tit liKUiu. Inilced, the late .Inhn .Macilonalil said lo me in a ku v way, ' That will he the aiiiiiuiit of your udury while V'ui niii.iii ill .la|iiiii.' Now 1 lay no undue eiuphiwiu upon th.s, for 1 do nut suppose the coiiiiiiittee had either the ilispositiiiii or tho rijht to himl itself in such a ctiso, without lili.rly t 1 chautie or revise itn act I'll. .Ml I ask is to he infovmod wliellier III the lew scale of ipenils, which as I apprehend i.ikes eti'ect next ' »r. it is i oiitemplatcd that mine ulioiil I he rcdu. . d to «l,'.'ri(i. When an answer to this came the matter was brought t" tlie notiie of the Mission Council. Here \» another l»-(U-r to Dr. Sutherland : • 'I'oKvo, .Iai'an. iUdir/i Wh, 1892. " A'.., I Sutlifrliiinl, Tiii-iiiilii, Ctiiiiiilii: "Dkmi DoiioK. -Ymir letter of .lanuarv 21st in reply to mine of Dicciiilur l."itli iiiforiiiiiivc iiic uf the action of the Cnuiiiiittee of Kinaiic, with reference to whether In fliii new regulatiima ..f the Sncicly my stipend inay Im reilu.c.i hi.^l,'_'riO from the [st ol' .Inly next, as well iis the reference tn the Rau'ie subject in your letter t.j Dr. Maciloiiald, raises the question as to this matter. .\s your letter to Dr. MaciloualJ w.is read in a full lucetmx of the Council liisl week, the matter came to the notice ef the hretlilcn. .\t their leipicst 1 uiaile a stiitciiieiit of the case, mainly in the terms of my 1. ttcr to you of December loth, a cu)iy of "liiili I reiil to them. I also slated that 1 did not wish the tN.i-.iicil t.i int.rpiise any expression of opinion, one way or the other, but just to let the subject be considered on Its iiieiits l.y the (iciieriil H aril next Biitiimii. The brethren, however, ili.l not view it in that li'^lil, but passed a resolution which the Cliairumn of the Council will forward to you in due ^>. SMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) /. 1.0 ■^ 1^ III 2.2 I.I 1^-^ IIIM 1.8 L25 IlliU II1III.6 VI ^ ^ /}. m 7 Photographic Sciences Corporation 23 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, NY. 14580 (716) 872-4503 90 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1895. cnune. I feel that the unoert^nty of my position Hhould be known to the Council, in order that steps may b« ttiken to pro- vide for the work in cose I retire." Th« Chairman — Did that depend upon ftnanjiiil con- siderations or health 1- Rbv. Dr. Cochran — ] wim going to say I have another statement that bean upon dmt It refers to what .wax already pending, and which will appear in this letter of mine to Dr, Sutherland of July 26th, 1892. It relatt« to a matter that had been pending a considerable time, vh. : whether on other grounds, grounds entirely independent of financial considerations, I could continue in Japan : " Rte. A. Sutherlaiui, D.D., Otueral Secretary, Methodint MMtm Houmi, Toronto, Cannda : "Dear Doctor, — The Council h»ve placeil in the eatimato an item to cover the expenses of my return from .lapitn to Cali- fornia a year hence. As I have intimated :n a letter to you, of May 17th, 1802, 1 suppose the ((uestion is an open one, whether or not, by Article 5 of thu general regulations of tlio Society, » 'opted at the Ust meeting of the Boanl, I am uxcludwl from a claim for travelling ox[ienseson account of not couipletmg a term of service. The Council, howover, ctmsider that as I retired on account of the ill-liealtti of my wife, and as that in the same Article No. 5 the matter is still at the diHcrucloii of thu Board or committee, the nue'ntly she askud my o|iinion cnnceniing the advisikbility of Iter return to Japan. Lot me slate that under no consideration should she do so, either now or in the futurt." etc. Now, in the second letter from which I read, March l.")lli. 18!'2, I put this statement, and if you wish the extract from the Mission Council Minute Hook, in regard to the action of the Council in this matter, I can give it ti) you ; the dttt« is 7th and 8th of Murch. 1892. '•Dr. Cochran made a stiktement of the circunistjincts of his return to Jajmn, and of thu matter of thu reduction of hisKti- pend through thu new salary regulations. It was moved, seconded, and resolved. That thu Chairman lie authorized to correspond with the comi' -tee, ursing that there Iw no change in Dr. Cochran's salary, and asking for an answer as soi.n as possible. " Then on the next day, March 8th, 1892, it was Moved, seconded and re-olved, that in Dr. Cochran'K c.ise the following restitutions he substitutotl for the resolutiun tli.it appeared in yesterday's niinnte : -That wu liavu heard witli re- gret of the application of the new regulations in regard to salaries to the case of Dr. Cochran in such a way as is likely to result in his withdrawal fmm the field. As wo fuel this to be a very great loss to our educational work, and a very inappro- priate termination of a long term of ctliciunt service in the field, we respectfully and urgently roiiuest the Coinmitttu of Finnmu to make a full presentation of thu ease to the (ieneiul lloavil, urging that his allowaiiue he continued as it was, aa long as l/u is able t t4) Dr. Sutherland, as T had re- signee of Finance other than to say that they wouhl pass it on to the (Jeneral BiNird. Befon' it had time to get to the (ieneial Bint. , , . , ... Uev. Ub. Sutiibkl^nu— At this point I think we should have the letter U> Dr. (Jixdiran. Urv. Dh. Potts— Will you allow Dr. Cochran to answer this quextion 'f Rkv. Dr. Bilious— Dr. Potts' question is the vital question. Rev. Dr. Cocmiran- I never so represented the case as t« give any [lei-son authority to say that my remaining in Japan would turn ujion the settlement of that question by the Board. Mr. Maclaren— That is not an answer to the question. Thniugh the Chair 1 would reciuest that Dr. Cochran state whether this is a fair presentation of what he said to the Council. He is representwl as saying that he could not think of entrusting his old age t<> a Board which thus refusiMl to lie governed by common sense business principles. Did Dr. 0r. Cochran — I can very distinctly affirm that I never said that, or anything thot would lead to such a construction of my eonvei-sations respecting the Board. I distinctly alhnn that. Kkv. i)ii. Si'THKBLANn— It should, in justice to all, be said that at the time when this statement is said to have iH'en made the (Council was not coinpeiiseB on your last ruturii journey. Touching the (|uestioii of salary, many mem- burs <'f tlie ('uniiiiitteeexiiieasedthuinsulves in favor of allowing it to reiiiani iin >it present, hut the coiiiinittuu do not feel ooinpeleiit to ib'.ide, ami have referred it to thu ne:?! meuting of tliu (iunural lloanl. 1 think, however, that those members of the Coniniittee of Kinancu who are muiiibcrs of the Ueneral Hoard will support thu view just statufaot'n tlint the now reguliitinns were, o i the whole, e(|iiitn)ile and fiiir, and you oaked for coiisidemtio'i only on llie ^riniiid of the H|>t'oiitl oiroumhtancea throwing out ci your illnoim. Tliuiu is iif the Board nii logarda .liipnii ; the siinio rugulniionii apply to China, and iilso to tliu Indian work in BritiNh Cohimbiit and the North-Woat. In fikut, so fur from discriminating .tgainst .Tapun, the tjeiiend fuuling all through our Conferences is that the hrethien there liHve l>een treated with exceptional liberality ; while ns regards Hocial and other disHdvnntagcs inoidenial to minsionury work, the helief is that circumstances are much loss favorable in our isolated Indian stations than in Japan. I feel sure you will not misunderstand either the meaning or the spirit of these obsorvutioi!!. I am apeaking just as I would if we were sitting together in your study, and am only trying to iiiiiko plain the fact that in the provsion made for the Japan work in all its aspects, we have gone as far as opihion in the lioard and out of it will sustain. " Yours faithfully, "A. Sutherland." Then again on the 20th of June, 18D2, I wroto to Dr. I 'oohnm as follows : "ToiioSTO, June 20th, 181»L'. " Rev. Oco. Oochran, Aznbii, Tokyo, Japan : "DB.vn Doctor, — You will readily understand, oven without my fwiying it, that I very much regret the cirunistaiico which Htem in ynur judgment to necessitate your return to CHlifmnia. I WON hoping, as were many others, for a full tenu of sorvico or nearly so before you would feel obliged to reliiKiuish the foreign work. But to >.pend years in Japan while your family lire in this country is scarcely to be thought of, and as Mrs. ('(H'hriin's health will not permit of her return to Jipan, I sii)>- l«>ae nothing more can be said. In common with yourself, li'iwever, I shall have the recollection of your years of faithful service which will bear fruit in Japan long alter you liiive bid farewell to her shores. The matter of stipei d for the coming year will be submitted to the lioard, and I trust will bo arranged m a way that will be satisfactory to y00, was cheerfully and unaniiuou.sly voted liy the Koiird. 'I'llK CllAIAMAN — Now, as to that stati'nient just made. Is there not a point where the connection is reciuiied ,' I'r. Cochran says he never said such a thing, nor anytliiiii; that wi'uld justify this assertion. Then the point is culled op that only one or two of the present missionaries weir' in I lie Council at the time. Well, who were in it I Where dill they get their infornmtion I Where did this come fron, ? Who were in it I Messrs. Ehv and Cassidy were in it. Very well. What doe.s that mean, on the bearinj; nf this present matter 1 Ukv. Dr. CociiiiAS — And Mr. Saunhy. Tub CilAiiiMAN — Me.ssrs. Ehy and Cassidy were in it. T ill) not know what they might want to say in ojiposition to that. Mil. Maci.ARKH — They can \to asked when they come. TliK CllAlltMAN — That is where 1 see a ditlicully in this iinestigation. 1 am ready to proceed. Mil. Maclahkn— 1 do not think that need ereiite any ilillieully. When Dr. KUy and Mr. Ca-ssidy eume here they will make their statements. I presume Dr. Coeliiaii wili not have giuie, aiul if there is any further iiuestion In put to Dr. Cochran it can 1k' put. I do not think any ilillieulty will arise. Then, through you, .Mr. Cliaiiinan, 1 woidd ask Dr. Cochran whether directly or imliieclly he attaches liny 'dame to Dr. Sulherland in eoniieetion with liis salary and travelling expenses! Hkv. i»ii. C!oi:niiAN 1 attach no blame to liiui nor to the expression he conveytHi to me from the Coniiiiittce of I'inance. On the eoiitriiy, 1 regardinl it as highly satis- factory, as really more than 1 might have expected. Mil" J. A. M." Anci.Ns This st«t.einent is made on piiye l"i of the printiHl letU>r of the missionaries, of Sepleinlier 1 1th, 1895, the latter part of the paragraph ; " We fell at the time that we, the younger men of the Council, could afford to suffer some degree of injustice in silence, but we did feel sorry that some means could not be devised for prosecuting mission work which would not render it neces- sary to heap insult upon the head of a veteran missionary and honored minister who stood so high in the regard of the whole Church as Dr. Cochran." Has he any reason to complain of the action either of the Boaid, or of Dr. Suther- land as mentioned in the paragraph which I have read 1 Rev. Dh. Cociihan — None. Mr. Aikins — Was there any reason why you should * suspect, even, that there was an insult contemplated in respect of yourself I Hkv. Dh. Cociira.n — There was no reason. On the con- trary, I regarded myself as treated with the utmost courtesy by Dr. Sutherland and the Board, in accordance with the extracts that have been read from the Doctor's letters to me. .Mil. AlKlNS — Then 1 would like to ask a further ques- tion. It is mentioned on page 1 7 of the printed letter that "Dr Cochran and Mr. Saunby, even if the primary cause of their retirement had been removed, would have found it impossible to re-enter the work of a Board in the promises of which the one could not feel that he could repose confi- dence, and in the serxiceof which the other found himself so cumbered by the Board's machinery that he had to spend a large portion of his energy to remove the obstructions which the Board itself threw in the way of his work." As I understand it, Dr. Cochran is referred to as the one who could not feel that he could repose confidence in the pro- mises of the Board. What have you to say in respect of that. Dr. Cochran 1 Dr. Cochkan — I have this to say, that I have just read from my letter to Dr Sutherland in regard to the promises of the Board. Let me read it again, that the impression may be distinctly befori; the minds of the brethren : "When I came to .Japan in 188-1, the committee was good enough totix my stipend atll.oOO per annum " — (I hud no claim on the children's fuiul, according to the rule, and my children were still dependert upon me, and I required the increased salary) — "with what seemed to rne a promise that it should remain at that figure. Indeed, the late John Mac- doiiald .said to me in a kindly way, 'That will be the amount of your salary while you remain in ilapan.' " (He said that privately after coming from a meeting of the committee.) " Now, 1 lay no undue emphasis on this, for I do not suppose that the eommittee had either the disposition or the right to bind itself in such a case without liberty to change or to revise its action. All 1 ask is to be informed as to whether ill the new .scale of stipends wliieli, as I understand takes elVect next year, it is contemplated that mine shall be leiliiceil to $1,250," And I have not said anything to the brethren or to anybody contrary to the statement that is maile there. So that so far as the promise to me of the eoniniittee in 1881 is concerned, I looked upon it as a ]iioinise, of course, but I felt that that promise was given •to me in private by Mr. Macdonald, and that there might be reasons why that arrangement should be changed ; ond 1 felt this, that my children were now provided for, in part at least ; my exjieiises were not so heavy ; the brethren around me in Japan were doing the same work as I. h appeared desirable that I should fall into the same chiiiiiiel with them in the matter of salary, and that I should be an eipial umotigst equals, and therefore I did not eomplain. But 1 wanted to Know what I should rely upon ; whether I must make up my mind to do with the $250 less per annum, or whether it should still be given to me. Mil. AiKiNS — Did you still retain your confidence in the promises nf the Board i Kf.v. Du. CociiHAV — I did. .Mil. AiKiNS--(); (lid you feel they were unrelioblel Hkv. Di:. CociiiiAN — I felt that the Board was treating me kindly and justly. Hkv. Sill. SiiiMiKY — I would like toa.sk for this item of 1 11 format ion from Dr. Cochran. After the action of the Board the Kxeeiilivi in ■lapan pa-ssed a resolution which staled in cMleet that this action of the Board would prob- alilv li'iul to the loss of a missionary such as Dr. Cochran. ^'oll wished them to take no action. Did you protest against that as misrepresenting your attitude 1 They evi- dently took that action in your presence. You say you wished them to take no action at all. Did you protest m ^'i4Mt'4 -''' L*^ 1^'-" -'«' ^ :. ,..^^ii^J--'ld^)tl W?fifi?t' 02 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1895. that that entirely iui8rapre( authorized U> correspond with Canada, urging that there Iw no change in Dr. Cochran's salary, and asking for an answer as soon as possible." That resolution is not full. The matter came to the notice ol the Council through the letter of the General Secretary which has I «eii read. That was read in the Council. They asked me then for a statement of the case, and I told them that 1 rame to Jajmn, that my salary was fixed ut tift^-n hundred dollars a year, and the pro- mise made to me by one of the memlKtrs of the committee thui it should remain at that figure while I continued in the service of the Society in Japan; and that now, prol>- ,il)ly, under the new scalt> of ivgulations for salaries, fur- loughs, and so on, mine should drop, and I enter the new scale ; ami out of a desire to do ine a favor, as the breth- ren sincerely felt, they pas-stsl this nwolution. The second resolution is this: "That we have heard with re!(i-et of the application of the new regulation with regard to salaries in the ca.se of Dr. ("isthran in such a way us is likely to result in his withdrawal from the field.' It will l)e clearly seen that what isstatedhereashaving l»en done was not yet done ; that it could not have been done. It was not yet appli<-d in my case. It was prob- ably thoii^dit it would Ik* a)iplied, and it was to influence the Hoard in leferenre to such a futun* application that these resolutions were passed. The CiiAiH.MAN-Well, was that done at all on your re(]ueHt or motion ? i)ii. Cochran — No, sir; it was done contrary to my request. Ukv. Dr. Heart?. Wa.'^ it on account of the proposed reduction of your salary from $l,5t)0 to ;?l,2.')0 that you withdrew from the fiehl ( Kkv. 1)h. Co' in Japan, I Iwlieve com- nmnications came to the Mission Uoonis that it. would lie undesirable that he should return to the field. His fur- lough was prolonged. Tt was finally determined that he should come ImicIc to Japan to be cfnnectetl with our educa- tional work.* It was the judgment of the Council that our iMlucational work did not rei|uire an additional teachoi-, that it would therefore be l)etu»r if the Society, instead of Hending Dr. Meacham buck to join in our educational work, would send a younger man who coulil ..: > into the evan- gelistic work. That judgment ..i' the Council, I believe, weighed sti-ongly with the Committee of Finance, and he was not sent to us. Afterwards, he greatly desired to come into the Mission and be coniiect(Ki with oiii' (>duca- tional work, and the matter was put l)ofore the Council again. It was put before the Ccmncil by n}yself. f ilcsiied an expression. He wished to return to the missionaiy work rather than to lie engaged in independent work to which he was invite. There is nil appeal from him, or anything of the kind, and I do lint think we might to go into the ))eisonal relations of tlie missioii.iries. Dii, Potts -We are considering the case of .lapan in all its tiearings. I»K. HiTiiKRLANii— T know that iMM-fectly well, and we ai-c considering wliethei' the statement of these mission- ioies is true, that Dr. Meacham was driven out of the work •Thin U m mlaUka. Tim Bosnl dlil not drKiiilo lo leiid l>r. Mewlmni Imrh l<> J'IMii for Uw Mluotlonal wurk. Htrhiki)* the Council ao dwkliKl A. S. by the Board. Dr. Cochran has given us conclusive testi- mony that he was not driven out by the Board ; that if anybody was responsible for that it was the Mission Council ; and I do not know that we have any call to enquire as to what reason the Council had, as Dr. Meacham's case is not up for consideration. Dr. Potts — 1 asked the question. Let the Chair decide. The Chairman— The Chair can see no reason for denying a general statement, " Not driven out by the Board." Then, the i|uestion, By what driven outi I think Dr. Potts would have a right to ask this question, especially in this connection, — Was it by mason of a disagreement there 1 Dr. Cochran himself said communications came. Now, then, T understand the force of the ({uestion to be, Was it because of disagreement there that the communi- cations came 1 I think it is a legitimate thing to have that question answered. Jt will reflect no further upon anyone. Dn. CocilHAN — Partly disagreement, and partly judg- ment. There was disagi-eement between the brethren. There was a judgment on the part of two that it was not desirable that ])r. Meiudiam should return ; that he was not suitable for the work. That, in brief, is the fact in the case. Dr. Eby and Dr. Macdonald and Dr. Meacham did not agree. 'I hey were the only missionaries in the field at the time J)r. Meacham's furlough took place. They did not see ej-e to eye. I do not know that that would hu\e been suthcient to recall Dr. Meacham from the field, or to prevent, probably, his return to the field ; but it was the judgment of the two brethren who were there thot he was not suitable for the work. Mr. Maci.aren — Who composed the Council then? Dr. Cc;(:iirax — There was no Council at that time. Mr. Maci.aren — Then it w.is the individual members 1 Dr. Cochran— There were three. From 1879 to 1884, Dr. Macdonald, Dr. Meacham, and Dr. Eby; from 1879 to 1884 thesf! three brethren were our missionaries in Japan. I returned to Canada in 1879. I went out first in 1873. Aft(M' six years of service I returned and remained five years in this country, and went back in 1884; Mil. .AiKiNs — liefore Dr. Cochran leaves, I would ask that the Board permit Mr. Cassidy or Dr. Eby to ask Dr. Cochran any (|uestions that they think proper or pertinent to the subject we are now considering. I will move that as a resolution. (Carried.) TiiK Ciiair.man — The subject in hand is certain state- ments in the communications of the six brethren in Japan. If these brethren here desire to ask any questions of Dr. Coc'hran, the Board gives the opportunity. Hkv. Mil. Cassidv — T do not quite understand what Dr. Ciwliiun meant by saying that Dr. Meacham's furlough was extended. Was that how you understixid it. Doctor! Oil. Conili.vN — Yes, it extended over two years. Mil. Cassidv — \ lia])i)en to have a little recollection alMiut that. When ] was in St. Catharines in 1885, Dr. .Meacham came to attend missionary meetings there, and he told m(> a day or two before it was decided he should not return ti> .Fapan ; that he was feeling very biid'y over it. Wax that a final decision 1 Dr. Cociiiian — I could not my its to the date. I only know, if I am not imorrect in this i-emembrance that I have of it, that his furlough did not countinue for one year, but was extended over twoyeans. If that is not correct, 1 am under correct ion, of course, but that is my remembmnce of it. Mil. Cassidv What I meant by it was, it appeared, a.s he stated it then, that it was not an extension of fur- lough, but that it was decichnl by the Executive that he do not leturn to Japan at that time. TiiE CiiAiitM.^x -The questitinis whether you are talking (if the .same time. Mr. (•ASsiDV -My recollection of the two occasions on which his name was limught up in the Mission is very similar lo that of Dr. Cochran's. F will just off'er a word tus to my recollectiiin of it, if you do not object. On the first iK'casion it was decided that it is not the judgment of the ('ouncil that he should be invited to enter the Mission, chietly because other arrangements seenuwl to stand in the way. 'fiiB Chairman Was the Council then in existence! 94 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1«96. Mh. Camsidy— Ob, yen. Hu. C'ooiiRAN — I think not Ma. Oamidv— We ivj<ack to take part in our work, but, as the Doctor said, the old relations stood in the way ; the old objection ; and so we dmpped him. Thr Cuairman — The Council had not lieen organized under the name as such by the (tenoral Conferonco ; it was simply ft conference of bretlirer. Mb. CA88IDY -Oil, yes, Mr. Superintendent ; I went there in 1886. In 1886 it was organizeil, so that thoro was a Council from the time I went there. Rkv. Mb. Krttlrwkll — There is just omi point : Dr. Cochran was present when the Council passed a resolution suggesting that if Dr. Ciicliran'a salary was roiluced he would perhaps be lost to ihe Japan work. That resolution was transmitted under his protest to the Hoard. I would like to know whether Dr. Cochran protested on the grcjuiul that that was not true in fact. Dr. Cociiban — I simply requested the brethren not to take action in the case, but they felt tli,it they ought to take action, they wiid, and they did. And I did not protest. Mr. Kbttlewell — Kut was your protest based upon the faot that that was simply not true. Dr. ScTiiKiiLAXii — He did not protest. Mr. Kettlewell — Dr. Cochran requested that that resolution be not transmitted. Dr. Cociiran — No, I did not re<|uest thot it be not transmitted. I simply wished the brethren to take no action ; but, as they desired to take action, I rlid not arrest their action. I permitted them to do according to their wish. Mr. KKm.EWKi.L--Sonie of the members of the Hoard fail to see my point. The point is that that resolution contained a statement which Dr. Cochran has t4ild lis was untrue. Did Dr. Ctxshraii t<'ll them it was untrue I It is on record that, in Dr. Cochran's presence, the Council formulatt>d a resolution in which they said, if Dr. Ciich rail's salary is reduce•((« done. It could be only from report. Mb. Bktts— If there is a resolution on the Minutes of the Council concerning that niatti-r, we might Ik! able to get at Brother Kettlewell's <|uestiim by turning up the resolution. Dr. Cochran— The resolution which 1 have rea*l a couple of times is on the .Miiuit»'H of the Council, and those Minutes, I have no doubt, are in the possession of the Council to this ilt>y in Japan, The Ciiaibman The jnunt is this : Then is a resolution affirming that the likelilusMl was Hrother Cochran would be hist t.o tlii> Mission on the salary issue. Now, the (|ues- tion i.i, whether llie only proper answer to that would Is' thot Dr. Cochran should rise there and protest that he would not be lost to the Mission on the salary issue ; or whether it was what any ordinary man would have done in the case, just simply to reipiest them to take no such action ; whether any man would go to the ext<'nt of \mt- testing, and committing himself wholly l, to take efTect in July, 1802. ]n March, 1892, the Mission Council passed a reso- lution, but by .July, 1892, owing to the cimdition of his wife's health in May, 1892, Dr. Cochran resigned, and re- turned ill or soon iitU'r July, 1892. Is that correct? Or, did he wait until 189.3? Du. Cochran — I retired in July, 1893. JrooK ("iiKSLEY —That had not been mode clear. I was under the impression all along it was July, 1892. The Ciiaibman -Dr. Cochran has unequivocally said he did not retire on the salary issue. Hkv. Mk. Bktts — I move that the committee rise and icfMirt |)rogre.s». ( Adjournei-s that have a Is^aring upon them. The stenographer spoke to me just as we dissolved the morning meeting, asking whether he had not better read to Brothers Elby and C-ossidy the notes of what te desirable at this stage that we should ask anyone in the r any facts that they may hove in their possession, and which will give us light that we have not got from the reading of this re|x)rt and from the reading of the papers that have come to us from Japan. I would not like to give a vote at this stoge of the discussion. I feel as though • am and in jus till ir requ< other poss The general in Kkv. M made by seeking, record a Ciussidy, the six bi of this lie would that it Cassidv a liehalf'of there woi posed by open to ilraw th ailininist there th lit' that s< if they c if I may think it might ch iliil hope Ik- left o The ( soriiethir ilesiie w l»;Vf« ■ 'wm PROCEEDINOS R/i JAPAN AFFAIRS. »5 there might uosMJIily W hoidp information that shciuld tomi' to UR. Mr. Caiwidy was here this morning. Dr. Ehy is here, and representativea of the ladies are here. Now we hiive the distinct ijuestion tiefore us, and that is, flrHt, iu4 to why we should not accept the proposition that is iniulo to us by these six men in Japan. They say, Kocali us. We write to them, at least our representatives write to tliem, and give every reason they know as to tlie polioy, and as to our preference why they should remain there, and they in turn again give us a letter which is peremp- tory in its tone and character, and indicat know any farts that may l)e in the passessitm of any of these men or women that liear upon this subject, and I therefore move tliat the Chair give the invitation to which I have referred, iind if there is no response that the Chair ask the people whom I have thus designated to give us any facts which are in their possession that are not included in the corre- spondence. Dr. Potts — I hope the ladies will not be asked to spenk on the question touching those misaionaries. I think they have nothing to do with it. Mb. Ournkv — I did not say they had. I have not indi cated in any way that I thought they had. I am talking now about hypothetical peo])le who may have something to do with it. There may be someone here who has facts. Tub Chairman — Ts the motion seconded ? Mr. Aikins — For the purpose of bringing it up, I will second it. Mr. Cox — At this stAge I will ask for [wrmission latei- on to make that resolution somewhat larger ; to make a preamble, ond add the clause that you suggested. It will be nothing that will aflect it. There will Is' no olijectiou to that, I presume, and your suggestion saying, "as soon us other provision can be made for the work," can be in- lorporated. But, to ray mind, there is no other alternative but for this Board to accept the twice-rejieated request of these gentlemen to l)e recalled. We cannot, with dignity mid with common justice to ourselves, do anything else. The Board has l)een arriiigned, and the otticers of the Hoaiil and members of the Hoard have been charged with ciuelty and injustice ; and in simple justice to ourselves, ' and in justice to them who have for the second time urged tilt ir rwjuest for a recall, we should grant it. There is no other possibility. Thk Ciiaikman — The question is, whether we give a general invitation for information. Kkv. Mr. Huestis— I intended to refer to the remarks iiiaile by Mr. Cox. Of course it is information we are seeking. I do not know that I would be prepared to record a vote even now, until at least we hei rse they intended, by doing so, that lie would represent tiieir views, and it diM's seem to me that it would be only proper that we should give Mr. Oa-ssidy an opjiortunity to .say anything he has to say on behalf of these brethren. And again, I diiniHciioiiHly 1 Thk Ciiairmak— The idea wan to call on anybrwly I m>h in the room. (The motion referred to wan tlxm put and cnrricil.) Tub Chairman — The Chair will not undertake any great range without Huggentiona from the lioard ; but tlio Clinir may, by a sort of uimcurmnce, make tliiH Mtatement, an it haa been repejtte<>rhaps dexiivd that he should represent, as far as he could, their views. With that in view, there is a desire on the part of the l) say iwrtaining to the welfare of the six brethren tllen^ oi heir relation to the Kourd, now is the pi^jwr time to .speak. That will be the solo subject at present. Mb. Cassidv — I think I should say one word, simply that I have nothing to say. I have no rcs^ionsibility in the matter whatever and no knowlnlge of it, any mure than any other brother. I n-ver saw this letter until I saw it in this room. I was not ap|H>inted to ivpresent anybody in that sense. 1 had no knowledge of my elec- tion until I he^ird of it in the cablegram. I am not instructed to do anything or to represent anylmdy in any such sense, and, nioreen able to ln! here and get the drift of the discussion thniughout, but as far as that is concerned I represent nolxniy. Tub Chairman —The stenographer read to you or gave you the lienefit of the notes that hiul been entered before you came in at 1 1.30 ? Mr. Cassidy — Yes. He reiwi them over. Mr. Nixon -I think Mr. Cassidy should be told that there has been no discussion. We have liul the remling of the documents. The matter has nut l)een discussed in any way, and he should know that. The Chairman - A brother thinks you should Ix^ told that we have not discussed the merits of the case. We spent our time last week reading the Secretary's Ileview of which you have seen a copy, and then you hiwl most of the morning. We are now dealing simply with the case of the brethren there, and that is all we want information ujjon Mb. Cassidy — The (piestion was raiswl as to their desir- ing to continue in the work. [ know nothing to the con- trary. Everything I have heard from them indicates a spirit of intense anxiety for the work, and anxiety to see some door open which wouhl bring everything into har- mony and enable them to stay in the country. That is as far as I know. As to their having offered themselves to some other missions, I ne\er heard of it. My own convic- tion is quito the contrary. Dr. Eby — Might I ask, has there not been a suggestion handed in by the editor of the (Jnardian alniut this matter ? Might I ask for the rtwling of itf 1 do not know whether I am in order, but that has come into my mind. It seems to me that it is on the line of a possible solution of the difliculty. Tim Chairman— If I know the document Brother Eby is referring to, and I presume I do, it diH's not relate to v'hat we have Is't'ore us. If it comes at all to the Board it would come when we are considering what arrangements we may make as to the future. Is it the same as was handed in to the Kxecutivo Committee t l)R. Knv I really do not know. I simply hoard a sug- gestion that it was put in here, and that it cimtained a suggestion to hav(> souk* pi-rson go to the gniund and see the situation, having |mi»it to act. Tlmt was alunit what 1 understiHsl, and I understand there is a resolution to accept their recall. TiiK Ciiaiiiman —That resolution is now liefore the Board, that they Im now recalled. Mr. Co.\ — Will you allow me, at this moment, to amend the resolution with the fireamble as I proposed it I Tub Cmaibm.vn It I'an lie read. (Mr. Aikins then read the motion as flled with the S'eretary.) " Moved l>y (iuo. A. Cox., E8(|.,iecnndad by Thot. Nixon, Esq., That this Koiiril hits hoanl rend niid cousiilored the letters of Itcvs. K. Criiiuiiiy, J. (i. Dunlop, I). It. MoKenide, Wm. Klliiitt, H. tl. C'lmlus snd J. II. McArthur, dated Uth Decem- hur, I.SIM, L'.S :li .Mxrcli, IHUo, llth Suptemher, 18!ld ; the letters of tlu< Ki'V. Dr. ."^iithtrlnncl, dattxl Itt February, t8!).'i, und 17th May, IHJI.'i, eiu'liining the loiter of the Rxucutivu uf mtnie dste, and that lettur and the stiteuient of Ilev. Dr. Suthnrland and U'tters therein rrfi^rrisl to, and haa liunrd nnd considered the •tittunientN of tliu Ilev. Urit. Cochran and Eby and the Ilev. Mr Cawiiily and nthera. " Tht' Itoanl enilunit'S the action of the Executive Committee in ruspeol uf thu r-aid six luisRionnries, and h.u entire confi- dun^'c In its veteran mi'diual miaainnary. Dr. Macdonald ; and as the said nix inissiuiiaries linvu expressed dissittisfoction with, and rlissrht fri>in, the administratiun of the lioard nnd of the Kxi-ciitive, nnd with thu wurk of Dr. Maolonald, and although the Kxfcutive C'uiimutlve has asked the said luissionnriea to ruvonsiiliT their ru(|iie9t for rucnll, thuy alill |i«rsiat in urginf( their reijUi'st to l>e reoulltnl ; therefore be it resolved, That the rei|iu'st of thu niissionsrius, the Kev. Messrs. Crummy, Dun- lop, M('K«n/,ie. Klllott, ('outes and Mc.Xrthur, bo ncceiled to, and thai, they he nuMllvd, such recall to take elToct so soon ns the KxwntivuCoieiuittee can arrange foraupplyiuH their places; and that nhuidd any of such niiuen for any of these men, if they so desire it, to ask to Im allowed to remain there ; and I thi'ik that is as far as this Hutnl could go with pn)- p<'r res|«st to itself and the otticials of the Board. .Mh. .\ikins— I might say here that Mr. Maclaren has called my attention to the fact that they are dissatisfied with the administration, not only of the Executive, but of the Board. Thk Cmaibman— I suppose just now the exact terms of that resolution is not a matter of great importance. Now we will hear Dr. Eby. Du. Ki)v — I do not n>pi\.«ent the young men in any sense whatever. TiiK C.'maiuman-— Can you give us any information why they ought to be kept there or why they should lie brought home f Du. Eby— T wish simply to say this, that I know of them from the Ix'ginning of their coming in there, and 1 know their hardships, and I know that they have I)C(. If a respcmsiblo person, say the General Hup erint^Mident, shoulil go to Japan uikI talk with these breth ren, and with all parties concenie'^^-<, PROCEEDINOS RK JAPAN AFFAIRS. »7 wlinruliv tht'Hn iniiundHrataiuliiiKK would nut ho apt to arJHe in tlio futuro if theHe nitm continufi iti thi< Hocixty'M work. I lici|Hi and prny thut tlitty muy, for the aiikn -if thu Cliiiruh imd for th« nnku of thuinHitlvt-H. 'nuiru U no ilmilil iiIkiuI it, that, under tho now rc^hn)', thoy will throw thoinni'lvrs ill with tho gntatoHt hxartiiios!!, and tho MiiiiplM fiu-t that hiiving liad it torn up to thu Ixittoiii and lii>giniiiii;{ a^iiiii I l»>liovo would bring ulxiut a now fooling. I do nut mw any roal difficulty in the way. What I want to oxprcsH inoro strongly iH tiiiK, that iHthind tlioso nuHtakoH that Imvo lioon iiiiulo thoiie men are Hploudidly loyal to this Church and to that work, and that tho most of thorn, at all ovontH, aro iM'ciiming very etiiciont workers there, IhiIovimI of tlio Jap aiipse. What tho Jaimnoso want is that these men stay in the work, and Dr. Maoilonald stay in tho work also, iiiid I do not see any roason why itshouhlnot he .Mi>arrang<-d in the future. I am hiking forwanl to that solution of tho diffi- culty after this meeting. TiiK Chairman — The Chair is o(H)rating under that iiidtion t4) call on anylxidy and ovorylsxly. [f the Ohair lias any douhl on any suggestion you make ho will sulmiit the matter to the Hoard. From Hrother (iunievN leniJirks I suppOHlapan. I suppose it is possible, and even probalile, that some of tlii'se ladies would have evidence to give on that jiarticular [MpiiiL. I do not at present see that thoy are likely to lie iilile to tneral grounds. If that is the thought, that the recall be allowed under the following pruvisioiis. You might sa)', " accede to their request under till' following provisions," whatever they might be. Then you will want yuur |iroaiiible there. 80 that the principle st,iiiils out lietween th(< two. It stands out between the preamble on the one hand and the provisions on the other. Vou might submit the principle baldly, if you like, with that underst Hiding, I'lien the principle comes up, that their rcipie.st or ajiplication must be acceded to, so soon as their jilaces caa be tilled. Hut if they wish to continue, it shoulil be left to the Executive to continue them, if they think It prudiMit. TiiK tiiiAiiiMAN — Then wo have hatl a subsidiary motion for information. Have we all the information that the members of the Hoard desire? Very well; then the Chair will submit the origirial motion. Let the original motion Iw! upon the Secretjtry s table. Du, SiTiiKiii.AND— 1 think it would be very desirable for the brethren concerned to spend a little more time over the form of that resolution. Mu. Maim.ahkn — Would not that meet it, if we affirm the principle and then, perhaps, delegate to a small sub- committee the drafting of it ( If we reject the principle, there is no use going further. .Mu. (iuuNKV - It seems to me we should have something to vote on. I am prepared to vote that this matter be laid on the table until we have. I do not want to vote on a bald statement. I would like to know what I am to vote on. Dii. SuTiiEiiLANi) — One chief reason for the thought I have uttered in regard to it is, that only a small part of this last letter from the missionaries has yet been considered by this Hoard. There are statements and assertions of so- called matters of fact that have to be considered, and we must find our answer, and it is finding a satisfactory an.swer that will justify lh(( course jmipoicd in that resolution. If we adopt the principle, even, before we have fully examined into the foundations of it, or the reasons for it, we may expose ourselves to rather sharp criticisms. Mil. AiKiNS —Would it be in order to do this, as we are in Committee of the Whole, to consider this resolution clause by clause 1 TiiK CiiAiuM^N— Oh yes, it would be in order, but as Dr. Sutherland has said, we have examined two or three points in this, and have called upon Dr, Cochran. You have had documents. You have had communications from Japan, and you have had tho replies sent to them, and their rojoindor. You have had the whole matter, pro and con, and you have this as the final letter. Well, this final letter 1 9N (IKNKRAI. BOARD OK MIHHIONH, INPV 3r«>u Imvc HXAinini'd two or ihrtN- |M>intii of. l'*ii you ilo not (i><)l iticliiKHi U) I'xuiiiinii any otheni, Miit it wonlil uoour til mn thiit them in I'liough for tliv Hoard touut u|M>r . I wy that with atiwial ii)fnr«ther (iurntty Myii. Kut (till it tttiybudy winluw tu exaniiiio further, now in the tiin«< to do it. Mh. MMn.AHRN t prpituniK that other nK'tnU-m of the bonnl urn itliout in the mahk' (Nwiition iix uiyMelf, with re unrd to thii) unfortunnte dtKTuniimt thut I hold in niy hund. T)l« t^tne of it would, of coiirNe, initko the Miinr piiinful iui prpiiNion u|ier of thin HtHircl. It in ii docu inent which up)Mtit'ntly oloHeit the d<»>r to the overtui-es niB'le hy the Kxi'cutive (.'ouiniittee to theHe lirethren. Another nnttter thut pi>rhnpH noeil not \m ^on« into in de tnil in tluH : When 1 look Ht thin I mw thnt it in full of iniRtjiki'N of Htnt4>mentH of fiirt, not only ihom^ u|Hin wliieh the Hiv. l)r. CiK'hran wum exaniined, hut it im full of lueh attttemenlH. For inxtanee, on puge tt, one of their churKi'H in: "Now, iin l)r. Hutherliind moved a reference of iIum matter in lienernl Conference to the Joint CuramiMsion, und Hince, when thut committee met, he prenentey niover. Kliy'H amendment thut wiih carried. TluH d{o on tti Htate that when the action »hh taken, "neither the Secrctjiry, nor the Ifeiurd of MiwtionH, nor the •loinl ConuniHFion liudaco)>y of the Con Htitution, und it in (loMNilile the niiBtnkeH miule )iy I'l'. Hutherlnml, etc" They are entirely miMtaken as ty of the t it into their lieatls that «c were ull in the dark in that way. (uishes my coiiiprehcnHioii. They have heeii getting some verv 8trun){e information out in thut country. And thut runs all through the document, so thut it is very largely baKeared to vote. I ■uppoae you will have to liear with the weak as well as the stroiiK The wuy the thing pmnenlM ilmlf to my mind, put it as you like, is this: These lirethren ani really on trial fur their lUnding in the Held and in the niiMion work. \ MuMiiKR— No, no. Mh. IIkti's I um stuting it M I understand it. These hiethi-eri ure on trial for their standing virtually. .\ Mkmiik.ii No, no. Kkv. Mk. Ciiismoi.m I rise to a point of order. lie suvs we muy put it us we like. Then, I do nut put it that wiiv. Mh. Hrtts- I say, then, I do nut aasunie to lie this entire Itoaid. My cuntlid und sens, the Ueneral Secrelurv, in the niiiul of these lirethren, is arty aiel they are another. Thi< Htsird is to deal with the whole i|ueHtliin, and all these things are to lie taken into con sideralion. Tliey liu\e no one pleading for them hen- toilav. Hrollifr Cussidy snys he is not here in any sucli capacity. Hrothcr Kliy ^eenls to he in the same (lusition. and I think this l!oaiil deci exaiiiined the niatter on the I Ith, l.^ith, lOth and I7tli pu(.'es I think thnt would he the lietter course to pursi:.' Iiefure the Hoard voti-s u|Hin this resolution. Then we can get all till' niuterial. TiiK (.'iiAiii.MAN- It is (lerfectly in order tor Brothei Hetts to call iqiaiiy |M)iiitH. Mil. Hkith - I move, then, that this final reply of tli' brethren in the field Im' taken up and deidt with. TiiK CiiAiiiMAN -- It is Is.fore ns. Call up the points en which there is any ilillicultv. Mil. Hkits To call up the jsiints really takes up tic whole, riien, divide it simply into |Miints. They expn-- their high appreciation of the spirit in which they wei. uddres-ed by the Kxecutive, but they consider thut at iIm suiiie time they are Tqui'sted to really stultify themseh '- on account of the statements of Dr. .Sutherland in lli Oeiieial CnntVrciice. "It will l«' rememliered that ili two points to whii'h we called your attention," etc. (Hcni- from letter refcried lo, page I, par. .1.) I think that tin- is one of the grounds of their complaint, the remarks m the (ieni'iiil Cnnfeience, und the subsequent actions wlmli seemed to confirm them in the idea that they weri I«)int. Mh. Maitlarkn— The reply the Executive sent to thai Mh. Birrs This Hoard is dealing with the matter im" It is out of the hands of the FiXecutive. I am not at mII seriously objecting to the motion. It may be just the \eiy thing. But it seems to me that there ought to be in some PR0CEED1N08 RE JAPAN AFFAIRS 99 wny a mora full •ml turoihiu |imi<erly mi, hut it it liitu thn hitndlii of a pitchor ; tlir liiuidio >-< on on« lidK, 1>M. I!kiuo«— I i\nm« with Dr. WiilinniH tliiit tlm reiwi iiiK of tlie Hevinw diMM aiiNwcr iiioNt if not all tlio Mtntc- iiii'iitK iiiikdp In tliix dix-'umimt Kivmi \in liy tlm hIx iiiifi!, oven now, on tliix ijiicHtion ; liut I nin in no hurry tu do tliin. f want fM'rythinx tr. EViy and Mr. CaxMidy, wliilo »tatin({ tliiil thiiy hail no hriiiMkkin)( fur thuin in thi> Htriot olliiiial nimini> of tlm uoril, and that in thitir iiiiiidH, in tlm Htat^Miii^ntH tlioy may i]i;iki' to us to-night or to innrrow morning, tlii'in may In* tiiini'lhing that will givetu ux anothor color, that may cauHf U'4 lo nuidify ur uhangi' our opinionM Ronicwhat. It' ho, would it not Ui juNt an well to dnlay action on tin- iiii |K>i'lant iUini of voting on this matter. If, in tlic mind nt Ur. Khy or Mr. ('aNMidy, any Nlatuinunt8 will hring forlli laiiM, or what they allngii an farts, for the ooMHidi'nitioii of iliis lloani, that will nuNJify the view.s of the mi'inlM'is of till' Hoard with refenmce to this very resolution diiiwn up I'V Mr. Aikins, we ought to wait until we have evi'i'ythin){ liit'ore UH, and lot every brother N|Niak ; and if we want li^lit, even from the ludie.>i' lido of the <|ueKtion, I want that iH'i'iiie we (Mime to anything that uould Im! roust rued liy our Cliiirch at large that tluH iioaiil liai heeii doing anything lliat liiui the ajipearance of hriiit! unjUHt or unK<'noi'iius. .\!ii. Nixo.N — There in nnotlier [xiint. Fron mv poiiii, of vii'w, an a layman, I cannot agnn^ with Itrotliur" Hntt.s. It I not those men that are on tlieir trial, liut it is the r.iiiinl of list year and your Kxei-utive, in the inaiiiier in rtliii'h they put it before us. They say that you kept a iiMliiin person there. Dr. Maudonald ; weoannot work with liiiii ; tlierofore «'e wish to lie relieved of the work whieh yiu placed H|Kin us. You said certain things at the (}en- ciiil ("oiiference, by your (ienerai islftretary, and they are nut true, and therefore we cannot work any longer. One ini,'lil enlarge very considerably on this lottflr. It is the hoiu'il of lost year that is on its trial, and on its tiial by liii'ie men, and not that these men are on their triiil liy tins Hoard at the present moment. I think the Oeiienil Srcivtaiy has biH-n placed on his trial by these liretlircn in iic'i'ordanee with this letter, and the statements which he hiK iiia, which they say are not according to fact ; and tlicy make cerhvin stateiui>nts alniut Itrother Cochran and ellicr bretliren. Dr. Cochran statiir. Itiiggs. It is evident we have reaeheii a crisis in the atliiiiH of our mission, and to make a departure now that woiilil Ih: ipiestionable in its nature would bi^ fraught with M'i\ evil results. Our people all over the Dominion are luiikliig to thn action of this lloivnl, and I think we ought to deprecate any movement of a hasty character. liet us iiiovi< very slowly hero. Dr. Kby, in some remarks he iiKide the other day, intinmttMl that to some extent his ;iicseiitatioii of the case, as it atrected him, would have retV'i eiiee lo the six men who are now in Japan. As one, I sliould like to hear from Dr. F]by with regard to the dif fiTi'iil phases of his case before even recoiiling a vote with ri'pird lo these six men. It appears to me that we ought to liiive at least the evening, and the opportunity of hear- iiii; l»r, Kby, before we come to n decision linally with ii'pii'd to those six men. .M II. Cox — 1 do not wish at all to re(|uest a hasty vote. I ti'i'l with Dr. Briggs and the others that the (|uestion is of ^iilliiient imuortance to take all the time necessary to hear III! that can Ijo said on either side ; but the resolution was siiliiiiittod in that form to bring it before the meeting, and to hear what wug to lie said, and to hear anything in amoiul- roent. There ha* liei»n no amnndment pro|Mis«d. If any pers III has any other or lietter way of dealing with this matttu' let him submit it in the form of an amendment, and then it may be agreed upon to withdraw thn original motion and let the aiiieinliii'mt take its place. I have no particular feelings in the matter, except that that letter itself -I am deitling with that alone leaves us no alterna- tive but to aci'i'pt the resignation or reipiest for recall of these gentleini'ii, unless thi'y themselves express a desire for dilVeri'Mt treatment. That resolution, as now lieforo the HoanI, gives them an op|iortunity, if they so desini, of still continuing In the work, if the diirenmces lietween the Kxecutive and themselves can be reconeileij, and they can go on satislled. Ho long an they are there au dissatisfled men, without any conllilence in this KoanI, without any coiilldeiKMi ill the KxiM'Utive, and without any coniUlenue in the representative of this lliuird, I say it is impossible for them to coiiliiiiH' theri' with any degree of pittHt to the Church or to ihcMiiselves. Mil. Maci.aiikn— There is a reason that oocurreil to me why |M-rliaps the action suggested by Dr. Hriggs and Dr. Heart/, might not now Iw neu-sMiry, and it is this: I think if Dr. Kby or Mr. Cassidy have any remarks which iiiiglil be of assistaiite to the Itoard on this subject which we are now consiilering, it would Imi very desirable that they should lie dissisiiated from the matters personal to themselves. I iinderstiHMl the opportunity was given to Dr. Kby aiul Mr. Cas'^idy, if they could really say anything that would lielji the Hoiird to a conclusion u(Mm this point and that tlicir answer has Ix-en in the negative. I would dclirccate iiiixoiK this up with an entirely different matter, that has to be si'tlled on dili'erent coiiMiderations. We are in Coiniiiitlec of the Whole. So far as now appears wo have exhauHted the iiiat^'rial Is'fore us to enable us to arrive at a coiii'lusion on this point. Home of us are ready to vote. If the Hoard, as a whole, is reiuly to vote on this subject on the material now before us, let us give our vote as a Committee of the Whole. We have to report to the Hoard, ami it' before the adoption of that report by the Itoard aiiytliing should intervene that would make a recon- sideration of this desirable, wo can reconsider. But I think it is Is'tter, so tar as we can, to settle matters as we go along, when they are fresh in our minds, and before they are displaiu'd by other things getting into our minds. T think we ought to vote now. TiiK Cii.MiiMAN -Then the Chair will submit this motion. Du, Kiiv -1 just wish to say this: I mentioned this moriiiii'.;, as Dr. Heart/, lias intimated, that what I would say would in all probiibility create a background upon which you would be able to see this whole question in a litllc dill'ci'ent light. I do not intend to mix up the six men with mysi'lf, because there is no point of contact be- tween the two ; but there is a continuity of history from the beginning up >iiitil the time I broke otV, and then it goes ini. There is ninning through the whole a chain of facts, so that what happened afterwards will li»« underst was no suggestion in this document of aiiytliing that could relieve the situatiiui, brought me to this response. 1 desire to draw the attention of the Board, for I do ii'it wish to ilo more than that, to two statements that are in the document, one on page 10 and the other on jmge 1 1, which 1 will read in a moment or two, to which I would ask the Hoanl's most careful consiileration and in- terpi't'tat ion Ix-fore they act on the resolution. That is my whole pui|«we in rising, and I will still refrain long enough to ask the Hoard, am I in order or not 1 because I feel the delicacy of an outsider interfering, lou OENERAL B(>AHI» <'^' MrsSKtNS, INItS Tiir CiMlRVAN We urn in i-<)mniitt«>f. Tlit< rimir Iiiim It Miirl iif oiiiriiliim iHi*fr. Tlii' C'hiiir will not ruli> joil >'iil («( iinlttr. Uo iiIipimI. Mm. CoIihtiik- Thu Hint HtntPiiK'nt in on pngn II : "At tlip nanio tinin we would not be umlcratood an i>i'<>ft-riiiiK chuPKPB nKniimt Pr. Morflonalil. NVV ncvpr uiulprtji>ction of liini iliil not aullici*. We Kiiiiply ritMi whiit M)'r<- HUlKiirnt rt'HitonH for ux oii the lli'lil not !■> re-flfi't liini, and if wt" did, im wp Hay, tioU'ly li»'«ini»f, ' and Ml on. (Ki'adH iHira^raph frtmi letter, p. II, line 7.) Now, I will not Hay that niy HrHt roncluHion or interpretation of that would Ikj warranted liy further r«'H< rlioii, for it in only nince I came into the room that 'thin liax liceii deeply imprexaed u|i<)n my tttenlion. It doeH nei ni lo me tiiat tlicne brethren deelare they have not olijnled and do not ohject to thin lloanl having Pr. Macdonald an itH repreKeiitftlive ; more than that, they d'l not nay, and hav« not --aid, that they will not work uniler |)r. Mac donald a» ilie repreiwntntivp of thin Koanl. Mk. Maclarkn — You are miKlAken. I)k. SuTllKBLAWli — They have. Mr. MaiXaRKN— In other dm'umentx. Mh. Coi'RTiri — Thii. in their latPHt presentation. Mr. Maclahbn — There is no withdrawal of the former. Mr. CoURTicK — Then I have Imimi imprcHsed with thin thought, ia there any repetition of the re(|ueiit for recall In thiH diMunient / Mr. Nuofi— Yes. Mr. Coi'H'nrK ■ Well, I have not found it. My formal interprettktion of that Htatcmetit waa that thny oidy made RtatementB oincer.iing the poHJtion of I>r. Ma<'donald in order that they mi)!ht be uiiderHtor. Macdonald ; but mt that they objectHl to him as a rpprewntative of tlie Iliiit inort*. On pa^e It): "Now we Udieve that the cxpreK> Rif(niHcaiice nf thia legiHlation," etc. (Keadx parapapli.) To my mind there is a su););eHtion : the Hoard may nut interjiiPt it and iimclude so, but after careful reltcclion there seems to be a HU>{){eKtioii of a solution. It really would open the way for their remaining on the field. Tub t"iiAin.MAN - Hut. brother, ai-e we ff<\nn to condcnm the (Jeiienil Conference action ! Are we ({oiriK to say that that resolution wan liaaty and inconsiderate 1 Certainly not. Mb. Ma(U.arbn- And will we call a Hpecial (ieneral Conference to rejieal it I Mm. Cot'KTicK— U seemed to lie their ^inclusion that the resolution could not la- recalled. Tub Chairman — They condemnwl it, and they want us to condemn it. Rrv. Mh. HiKHTis — I would Huggest thin, for instance, which might obviate tlie objection that is made, liefore I goon let me say that I felt, witli Dr. Maolaren and w Itli everyone here, the mont unfortunate impression that this document iiiiuie, and I am sorry it is here in thin form. It in the most unfortUfiat<- document that liiui come up in the whole concern, to my c nwept out of the wav ; and yoii, face to face with our ollicial viMitsofthe men around me, and liHiking at the whole thing froiii the ex|ierience that I have hud of men in the pant, i see nocounteonon for UH but the I lie that these gentlemen have indicated them selves, niitiielv, ilie withdrawal of the men from the flehl. Hince I have Is'cn in thin room, during them< three or four days, I have heard deprecated by diflurent men in the riHim the taking of a business view of the nituatiun. What other view ii |Hissililc '. ."^ome men, you know, when they speak of business, speak of it as something that is a|i is no man here who is not willing to sacrilii virytliiiiK that a man should sncritice to a solii tion of tins ihini.' ; and if I am able to read and judge nt' facts as I'.xhiliilcd in this corresiMindence, I must sav that we are Isiunil lo accept the ."Secretary's statPmeiil as long as it is iMt iinpea< heave no alternative. I have as much resiHsi for the Meth, 'list pi-ople as any man in the nxim, or :is any man in the country, but I know the Methovitli very itri'dl oituti»ii iri tliit iiiiitlnr. Tlix iiyi"« of tlic rdiiiitry arc ii|ioM uii. Ilnra wn liiivn h\\ iiiiiHiiiii'trii«i in .lit|utii 'I'luv liii\« uiMt tlin MxthiHliitt ('liiirt'li ji vnry \nrtt\' ikniiiinl of iii'iiiiiy, nnil wi< m> nml ninkll lluiiii witlimil )( hI M i|i>. Ifwc ii-i'r
  • r. Khy and Mr. C'lumiily ImviMili'iuuly Ihm'm i'>'i'iiIIi'l llii-HO nii'n. Can thiire Im niilliiii)( ili I 'I'Iikii' liiin iiiil liri'n a KTOut iIhaI iloni' vxt. Thcro iiui Ih'imi ii jn-nl i\vn\ iiiort- lionn in innttorM vvlHiri' tlix <'iiiihi-i|iii'Ii<'i> wan mil half ax iiwni, I think w« hIiiiiiIiI ush ihi-iv im'iui>i in mii' jihwim' III try anil hrin(( lMi> ami iji'l tliimi> iiii'ii 1(1 oontiniiH in thn llclil. Kkv. Mh. >SiioI(KY I Nhiiiilil Im> i|iiilii willmtt <'• n thlH matter if I saw any |ii'im|MM'l nf aiiv liiilliiT light, but thi< fii"t of llin iiiatliT xi'i'iiit lo In- iIiih : tlii'si- lirxthmn huvi* N|Miki>n fur iIikiiihkIvi'ii: iIii'\ liavr pri' li'iri'il a r<'i|U(wt. If any oiii> kIioiiIiI i'oiih' Iwri' HiiiwiiiK i'liiiHi' why till* r«<|UiiKt hIioiiIiI iioI In' urantcil. h >rlaiiily » lhi< lasl lln.l ran Ih< .iiillioriUitivnIy itat^xl on tlii'ir siiliv I wat ho|iin)( ilial ItnilhiT Coiirtice iniKht, with Ins •, i>ry sliarji an<> 1 great (li*al niori' in Ihix slalrnii'iit lliaiil \tiii iilili' Ui niHf ; Imt I uannot nny that llioii' is any ■"4lii'n ui dilution. Tho only permins that nmld lia\i- Ii('I|iim| ii'. oiii iif thiH (liliivulty nri' thi' niisNinnarii-i llii'intrlvi's. If tlii'v hiul HUggxHt^Hl Hoiiift Kiiliilion, or soiiii'tliiii^' . Iml llwy lia\>' nivi'tx UN thrir llrial nllrraiiri', ami any iinvn wlm ' MiiM'H hi^n* to niiMlify tliat Hlati'iii'iit ilors mil |irii|ii'rly I. |inm'iit them. Wt> havi', fioni tin- miliiii' of llii' i-iuu-, I III' laHt thing that ruulil Ih' xaiil why wi' sjnuilil imI Traill. I lirir riNjuesl. They havi- pri'fi'i rnl llirir ii'i|in'>il, ami in I III' natunt of thi) oum' wi< caiiiiot gri any iiiori' li|{lil. I .1111 really Imrtlnned with lh« khiihi' of ihr i'i>).|iiinMiliiliiy, lull I am Nurn that in thi' I'liil wr may Iiiim' jialii'iilly t" wait, tiniH will vin i-milij iln milliin^ i'Ni<. riii'ii- Miiiisiimariiui havi> (loinamlril, as il wni', ilirir ri'iiill, mill «!• <;an ilo nothing kIhk than a» wlii'lhi-r il is lo |i\it I'll till- iliiy of aHHUming ih" ri's|iiiiisiliility of u vnli-, !iiil I nil iiniiri'HHcd with tho |ioiiil riii.si'il In llii> i-ilitnr of lIu- 'i".in/(ii;i. It (liKw m't-ni to nil' Ihal il i^ worlliy of roii -I lir.ilion, at this particular iiidiiumiI, ttln'llcr ii woiilil lir .1 |irii]ii'r thing for us to niinsiilnr thr a.lvisaliiliiy of a ili'li- '.'iiti', of the (leneral Huiierinlvmlnit fur i-xatiipli-, visiting ili;it country, oHIoially, and i'mh>aviiriiii{ to inlpist, maltci'H. In lliat way wn might possilily savi' I In' ('Imri'h fiiun it'ilaliiin, for without douhl, if wo oa-ii a vnio lii'ii', ami I ''Imulil ho[)fl that if wo do so il woiilil lio unaniuioiis II will havo a gmat nttnot ii|kiii tlio pulilio iniml ami may iill'ii I tho incoino of our SiHiirly diiriii'.; Ilio pii'sonl yoar. Niiw, that would cnrtainly ho avoiiloil if wo would post piiiii- ili'linitn action until tho viiiit of (ho tii-noral Huporiii liiiili'iit, for i think if any |>orson slnmld no, tho ohiof iilliiiT of our Board hIiouIiI go. 'riion, in .'onvorsalion ^^illl tlu'Mo hmthren thoro, it i» posnililo that a roooiirilia li'iii iiiiglit 1)6 ntfectnd, and that soino of llioni, at loatl, iiiiiilit Ih' Haved t« tho Mission and wo would savo our I hiiri'l. a gmat dojil of agitation. I only throw out tho Miu'iii'Klion. 1 won going to draft a rosululion as an iuiii'inlinont to tho rosolution Ix'foro us, siiggoslinij soiiio I limy liko thin. I do not caro to go that far. Init I fool iiii|iri'sHtHl with thn view that that pniiil ought to Ix' ooii- ■•iiliTi'd hy UH to a cnrtain oxt.«>nt. Mil. Cassidv— If you would allow uio, Mr. Chairman I kiHiw I am not in onlor, hut if you would allow mo to III iko a n>(|uest, I would liko U) ask tho Hoard not hi tako II villi' on this until our reply to l»r. Hiithoilamr.s slvt<' lit has been mode. That may ho my notion. I would kc 1(1 prosent tliat nxiuoHt. 1 havo no right to spiiak for I III' men. I am only an uutnidor I haui only a right to s|M>ak hnro in oiin way, and that in in wif-di (nniM- I simply mako that rmiunst. Mil, AmiMR — U Mr. Cikuiidy now pr«pam liinnwlf w) that thi* iloani may not Imi di'litynd f Mh. ('aiwiiiy -I did not rxpoot to sjMiak until to inomiw luorning. I do not think I would Ih> giMnl for it this oven ing, hut I hopM to Imi Iwlliir tomorrow. .Mh. Maolahkn t'ould not llmthnr (..iMsidy giva im any information ho Iiiim u|Min this |Hiint and sopurato it from hw own pnrmmal uonnm'tioii f I think thoy ihnuld Imi Mtp- araliHl. Kkv. Mh. ClllHiioLM—Tharn nnoiim to imi a diii|MMition with i|uitk. IIkiium -That would Iw wtill iMifimi Mr. CoMiidy would sfsiak. Kkv. Mh. Uiiiniiolm -Yon, or iiftpr wo havo heard tho slali'inont from Mr. CoHNidy and Dr. Khy. That may givu lis sonii' tliiio t4) oonsidor tliis matter, and a Nolution may III' roiu'hod, if tho Chair would mlmit the motion. I'liK ('iiAiHMAN it is compoteiit to mukn huuIi a motion III any timo. Hkv. Dii. IlKKiiiH - 1 am roady to votn now. Kkv. Mh. (^iiiniiolm -And ho am I. Kkv. I>h. IIkkiiih 1 am liHiking at thn Church at larxn to ho ahio to say, as .Mr. Aikiiis nays, that wo havo votnd aflor wo havo got o\ory hit of information. That in all I ask. Il miglit Imi Haid in soino ipiartor. Why, luitually llioy woro in siioli a hurry that thoy votod on thin i|ueHtion lii'foro thoy had hoard Dr. Kliy or Mr. ('assidy, and a giK>d iloal of I'apital would ho mado out of that. I HHcnnd the roHolntion. Mil LvMiil.Y I am aiixioiiH to wio il thnmgh oh noon aa puisililo, Inn I wish to got all tho light wo can. 1 tliere- fiiro support llnitlior Chishohn's motion. .Mil. AlKiNs Is it umlorHloiMl wo piticot-d txi night again lo hoar tlii.s statoinent f Mil l,\MIII.V -Yon. •Il iiiiK ('iiKHLKV V'orhapH it U not rngular to speak toa mntion to adjourn. It is a douliln-harrollo I motion, how- oM'i'. I wish lo tako iiilvantago of it for iihoul two min- ulos, hocauso I am undor thn painful nocossity, as Hoon as tho I'limniittoo rises, of asking loavo of alwonro. I rogret, miiro tiian any momiior of this lioard can possibly rogret, that I'ircumslaiicos ovor which I have por'ionally no \H^^n■ liililv of control roipiiro my prosimcn at a lixod day olse- wlioi'o I rogrtit il vory much hiMjauao it has iiovor been my habit lo shirk anything in tho n'lturo of a rospimsibil- ilv. 1 rogrot vory much that I shall not bo ahio to swi this whole mattor to a rtniah. This is not a rosponsibility thai I would sock, but a rosponsibility put u|H>n mo by the voice of my hroUiron. F only take advantjigo of this mo- ment to indicate tho re»|M>niibility 1 wouhl bo prepared to tako III this Htago on this ipiivition that is Uiforo us. I may say, Iai indicato tho rospK iilrontly niiid<< would Nti'iii to iii(lioiit4> that. I Imvi- no (it tliHt this llonnl will Ih>, lH>fiirii it list's, in posmssimi of t'lirilu'r inforiimtioii pi-oviii){ that rom-luNivcly. Hut so fur hh iip- poftrtnl u|Miii llu' surfiioi', luul so fur n.s llif first .stntiMiifiit of tlxvto MIX iiiiiiitionari<-M gu, flicir o|)('n xrievanrc datrs with what look plaet* in thi" liiMuTal Coiifi'ifiict'. I am bound to Niiy that going thfri* without iiit'orination, and coa8tM|uontlv without pii-juilici', 1 folt hurt in lli« sanip aenxo in which t.ht>y folt hurt liy the icinarks that wcin madp in tho (]«Mit>ral t'onion-nce liy the ticiipral Sccrt'lary ; and I havp Honin Hynipaihy with tlusi' six missioiinrics on that point., and on the further point that they raistnl as the two main i"iiiita why thoy a.ske.l.ite, but dele- giiled the linsinosw of legislaliiij; on tin--, wliieh wa.s liejiiii- ning to U' seen then to 1m' a veiy grave cjiiestioii, to a suli ordinnlv ImhIv. It s«'»i«i to inethat our I'lmferrnee, diir ing nearly tlin>e weeks o." vsNion, discussed names and mattfMit of hat ' 'ml, and |)Ul off this vast interes! of the Cliuroh to I, ,noiv eonvenient seaMon, and to a more eon- venient and wieldy Ixidy. That may have U'en mcessjiry. 1 am not going to sny that it wiui not : luit I trust that tlu' next Cieneral t'oiiferenee will give less of its time to Rmaller iimtlerK, and nior ■ of its lime to the greater inter i.«it-s of our Church. Ileal lesH willi the little iletiifis. and uioiv with largv .schemes and prineipleB. The t'hairmaii will see i am not afraid to eriticl/.e the legislation of the General Conference. TllK CiiAlltMAN — I do not we that it is i>ertinent, hut still you ean go ahead. .luixiK CllKHl.KV -I shall not take much time in lining it. I nm U>nnd to say this, that it :veei.is t.i me that tlmstr six bi-pthren in .lapaii have taken a wrong rourse. If they anf diHsatiHliutl with the action of the (leneral Coi fereiu-e, and with the action of that .Joint Committee to which wen' delegated certain |>ower« of the (ieneral Conference, they should have seen tliat that action was linal until the next (Jeneral CoiifeiTnce : that the .lo nt ( 'oininis.-inii had fuliillnl il« ini.ssion and its |Hi»er had emliil. and thai what wa.s done iiadd not he r;'called for iiiioilicr I'oui' years ; and it seems to nie still, afti'r all. that it was their ihity a loyal (tervanis of the Chiin'li to have ignored the uiipiea.'^int expressions that w 'le made ahoiil tlieiii, to liaM> a.ssuiiied, as they had a rigl'i to assume from the geneijil records of theConferei , »rt the motion. Mit. t'ox It is not an aniindinent. Thent is no objec tion. as 1 understand it, to the motion to luijourn. TiiK CiiAiuMAN-^-Oli no; it in ctunpet^mt trunded by the Kev. IMr .Slioiey and carri"d.) Till: CiiAiiiMAN That is, the t>-aveiling expenses of Messrs, .McKenzie and ('rummy. The various U'ttera referring tt) this matter were rend, .some conversation ensued, and the following resolution ailoptcd : "That having carefully considered the application ot Messrs. .McKeiiiie and Crummy to lie recoujx'd theii travelling expenses to •Inpnn, such ex]H"n.ses having lieen incurred three years Is't'ore the brethren enterwl o .r work, this Itoard cannot cntertjiin the claim, and reodirms tin action of the Itoatil at the annual meetings of 1892 and I 1. ■' •' .\fter this matter had U'en dii posed of, ,Judge Cliesle\ asked leave to Mithdraw. On motion of Dr. Hutherland leave was gninttsl. Hoard adjournetl at ,5..'il,). Itoard resumed at 7..^0 p.m. After routine biisiness. Mi .Maclaren moved that tlu^ Hoard go into Committee of iln WImjIc. (Carrifsl,) Tin; CiiAiiiMA.s The order »if the evening wna to hen the stateinent of Hrother Khy, I In, Kiiv I wish to ask that Mr, Cassidy tie allowed !.■ speak lirst. We will lake this document up somewhat nr llie order of ihe diK'uinent itself, and Mr. Ca-ssidy woni-l be prepared to make some reinarkH on the iiitr allowe.1 i.> M|H>ak now. (.SiM'ondcd by .Mr. Ijniibly aiid carried.) .Mh, Ca,s»iih -llr. Kby was very tiii'd, and thought l! .i 1 might deal with some of the preliminary matters llml i" not belong s|»ecially to either of us, l.iit Isitli together. .< A Ihen when we come to where the two cases separatr, !,.■ will lak.' up his (list and I will take up mine afterw.ui. Is that all right ! TiiK CiiAiHMA.N The older was to call on Dr. Kb\ i" submit his case. It is now moved, as a substitute for il ai order, that Iholli.r Cassidy la- hi ard first. .Mil, Cassiov - Is th.ii with the understanding that n I am heaixl now that is thii end of my ease ? rvnlent aitl iiiist'ortune I" make "orse that! .Ill' those .11,'itation I lung to iliroiigh «•■ ;iri" I lir sorro' Mill our ■vIiiiIimIii ilunk is lould hav In red liiinself II.. s..,.mH spiracy 1- a till >'o far a iil'iielllcll '•'IliT illli ■' • llilll I'lii'iilion ihin.. ol III Ill i"i- this Hinlli ' my w llu III ■Mill U'lillsl 1| ■'( -iidi ■-.iiiulil iIm'i- nil 'iiiiiiniltl lli.ir li'ilcaltl mil sl,;it| IliHl,. lthtM-. [ do not think tliw.! is liny iMlvttlitage to be tulceii of you in any shape. Mr. Camidy — I do not proixiso to dt'iil with my cast- until to-morrow morning. The Chairman — It is so nndnrst^nKl. Mn. CaSSIBV — There are some points iit tiic I'lrst Ikm'h that perhaps I can deal with just as well, and ri-lii-ve Dr. I'^liv. 1 know I have the syinpatliy of this T.oanl as I >land in this position. I fancy you can somewhat loalize ihi' (xwition in which I am placed. To mi- it is like a trial till- life. It means almost everything to me to lie placed lii'ic, and I have been much pleased with thi> M|iii'it of lairtiess I have Been in the Hiwird so far, and I am sine il will l)e extended to me in tlu^ matters that now liiuc to mine liefore us. You can rei'lize what a jiicat disadvan- i,i<;i' we are placed under when we have to deal with a -.1 iteinenk that has Ix'on prepared with all the advantage ot' (illicial correspondence and ofticial conveniences, anil with a perfect knowledge iH^forehand of what was ;;i)iii^' 1) lie done; and that we are brou<;ht here wiilnnit any kniiwledgoof what the pinigramme was, and wiili mt any oiipiirtunity to pn)par«i oursiOves in any de^iree in a similar wav, not even being notified of the miluie uf the Imsiness 111- receiving any indication that would prepare us to detend (iiiiM'lves. We are placed on our defence at a great disad- laiila^e It was partly for this reasun that I liopeil my iilipeal might hivve Immju entertained as such. I'ermit mi" law, or as any fi'iim a I'liiiiiiiittee tu a i'tlii<' tn an .\iiniial sav I on all this in any ullier w.iy. Yim ..le that this ptmderous diM;umeit was prepared with one iviileiil aim, to make Cassidy and Kliy lespmisilile for the iiiiHt'iirtunes that are now amongst us,-as far as possible Im make us resptmsible ; worse than the men in the held, u.irse than anyone who has had any misunderstandings, lie those who are heri' made responsilile for all .sorts of ,ii;itation and discontent. This, I think, is a very unt'air thmi! to assume, and I hope that by the time we get iliniiijrh and explain some piiint.s, you will not think that "e lire the guilty parties, or that we are responsible for all 1 lie sorrows that have come to us as a body in eomiection Mill our missionary affairs. You will notic that the Villi lie document is intensified by an assumiition, which 1 think is a great mistnke, and wliieh I olleii wi-lieil 1 iiMilil have removed from the mind and fceliiii^'s of our liuiiured Secretary, 1 often felt if he cuiild only rid iiiiiiself of that, that it would simplify matters greatly, lb -1 ms to have had the idea that there was a con spiracv somewhere, determined to overthrow him. This i> a thm;; that so far as I know is entirely untrue, Sii far OS I am concerned I knew notliinj; of such a iii.nement. I went to the (ieiu-ral ('i.iifereiice with no .iilier intention than to vote for him as Secretary, and to >■•• him reelected as Secretary. Never- had any othei- iiilention ; and now some of you will say, ilid you do any lliini; otherwiHel l>id you change your mind' At the iiMiuienl that the vote was taken 1 d! 1 not vote for him ii.i- this reiiHon, IsHyiuse the missionary matters in the 'iiiiint tee were not advanced to a stjigc at whicli I eniild ••-. iiiv wav clear tbrimgh, and hence I did not. I lliiew uMiv iny vote just on that ground. I'mt 1 weni there Willi no" such int^mtion. As to turning anyone's voti' ii-iiiiist him. or to do anything of the kind, I never thought "i Mich a thing in my life, and there are plenty here to inulict me, as nieiiibers of the (Jeneral Cont'erence, if I liere was anything of the kind. So that I Impe that 'lis luiMiniltee will 1m» fair enough, to begin with, to il'v st tli.-ir iiiindH of all such ideiw as that, and let the ipiestioiis lieilc.dt with on their merits, Let nothing be assumed, and statjxl with ofhcial authority, and therefore taken as iiiilli. |{i;.'hl at the very beginning, in the first paragraph, we Kirl that we have reason to emphasize these statements. " I havi- deprecated the persistent attempts to drag these m. The next notice I reoeivceii said aUiut the agitation that has taken ]ilaee wlii'ii things were sub jw/ice, I wish you to iM-ar in mind that it was on the 18th DecemlxT, 1891, that this took place. Then this Heviei- goj's on, juige '_* : (lieiuls last paragiapli. iiiider the heading, "This ."^tatemint both ( >tli(ial .ind I'eisorial.") The doctor surely cann' lia\ ing iiiailf f.ilse refKirts in our h'Mers, seeing he has not read tlii'iii. and w hatever false statements we have made iiiii.st liavi. Imtm made verlially. ]Ip has iherefori' only liear.sav. Me has never asked me about any false stateineril.'i, nor a<(Mised me of any false statements to my face, lie has never calltMl me and said, " Brother (Jassidy, you are slating this thing and that thing, and these things are not true; please either stop stating them and iciall them, or else T will bring you IsKik for it." He has never done anything of that kind. I wish lie had. I know of no false or mis leading statements that I have made, and hence, I think, to iMtgiii at th(! beginning of a doiiimr'iit of I'lflv (ivr. dimble column pages, by U'gging the whole ipieslion in ll ; way, i.s, to sjiy the h^asl, not a very gocwl sort of prociMhire. I think that that ought to greatly weaken the whole arginneiit. Mil. Maclaukn— T int. Iii;v. I)K. Ht TiiKHLANU - That is, letters approximately within the last si.\ or .seven we«'ks. Mil. Cassiuv \t any rat**, it thei-e were misstatements ill any letters we have |iulilished we were getutuble av any time, and 1 think we should not have iieen allowed to go on making false statements. Then, in the next ])aragraph, under the head. " The Policy of Silence," it is said ; " Not only have one-siihsl statements of Japan affairs been put fortli," ele. (Iteiuis the clause.) Of course this is like begging the whole •|uestioii, "No effort has lieen spared to misrepresent the action of the Kxecuti»e. ' It would be V orth more than this whole document to just tnke up one single instance and prove where we have misreproscnted aiiv thing of the kind. And then : " While the whole ipiestion was still under consideration," etc. Here I wiah tereml«'r 1 was put in that awkward position of In'ing liis' asked to remain at home with the hope of being useful ill tlie adjustment of these matters, and then suddenly dis- covered, right in the midst of my work, that I was dis- iiiis.se(l, and given no .satisfaction then as to what the cause or rea.son was. I was ex|MM-teil to go aliout and keep my mouth shut and do giusl, useful work. I did do good, use- ful vviiik, and I tried to do the other as well as I could. Perhaps 1 did not always succcikI as well as I have for the hust three or four days, for Providence stH'ius to have shut it tor me for a while at any r.ite ; but I did the best I could to be loyal anil do giKsl .si-rviee, and think tliere is no lirother here w ho would like to have la'eii treated in the same way. I (Hinie now to the section on "The Mi.ssion Council." The formation of the Council is n'ganled as the initial mistake in the whole thing. I noticed that the action of the (ieiier.il Conference may lie challenged sometimes. .Many ;i time have one and another prepared work which has gii'ic thiiiiigh the (ieneral Conference, and when the (ieneral Conference has iiiiule itself responsible for it, we have heen taught to reganl that as legislation to be lespecied and obeyed. I do not mean by that remark to defend the j.iiiieijile of a Mi.ssion Couiu'il. If we do not want one let us not have one ; hut as long as there is a Mission Council there I do not think that should have a place in this statement'. If l)r. Kby and myself are guilty of any ihing we are guilty on some other ground than that. The existence of the Mission Council is not something that should 1h' laiil to our charge at the present time. All I know is there was a .Mission Council when 1 went to Japan, and every mi.ssion except the Kpiscopal Mission finds it necessary to have a Missiim Couiieil. We have been compared to the episcopal MethiKlist binly that has done aw.iy with its .Mission Council. Well, they mav. You remember at the (ieneral Conference I outlined the position exactly in an address thi'ie. I said there are three things before us ; one is to give the whole authorilv to the natives, allow the missionaries tK. Si y.Mi give i.innot ti .Mr. C Dii. S I do. ( ■'< I he ki leivv deli surely ll Mu. covered formula PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 105 ler is out nl Mh. Ca8sidy--I n({ree witli the brother who interrupted nic, brouuse I was arguing that tlie whole eiuestion of tiie Mission Council is out of order. The third piwHiljility I |K)int«d out then wiis a Council. Plitlier the native Church, pure and simple, with what inHuence we can exercise in it ; or a bishop witli authority ; or a Council. That was the |«).sition 1 took then, ana ask if there is any way out of it MOW ; if you can create a superintendent, or manage it in •iny other way, it is all right ; but I can assure you it is a delicate ({uestion. However, it is ono in which 1 have not sii much interest now, and .should not have spent so much lime over. We then come to some notes under the head of " The Constitution — IIow Formed." (Jver this there has been a goml deal of discussion. I am gliul to see that this cim- stitution is really and frankly lulmitted in its proper standing, that is the constitution, with all the mistakes that have Wen made in regard to il, is there, and it is given cretlit ; it is acknowledged in the second iiaragraph IhIow the ((uotation : "The |Miint is of no i>ractical impor- tance, however, as the constitution was tacitly recognized lpy the Boaifl and the Council acted under it." All is there iciriceded that we could ask for except the word "annually." It is assumed just alxive that, in the paragraph p:en of allowances. I do not propose to defend this. It was .iM unfortunate thing. I'or my own part 1 was out in the loiintry and never saw it, and we were all greatly grieved "lieii we I'ouiwl we had ni.ide sneh a slip as to say some of lie things that were in that doiuinent. Thi're was an a|ioiogy sent as (piii'kly as we could send it, and I ll nk the aoology ought to li.ive appe.ired heie. 1>11. SiTllKlli.ANi) - 1 have no knowledge of any such tiling. Of eours(! I will not call in ini"stiori the distinct si Uement of one wlin knows such a letter was sent, but I have not the slightest ri'eollection of it reaching me. Mil. Ca.ssidy — Mr. Whittington composed it, anil il was »ell arranged. I>ii. Kiiv— I remendier it distinctly. I>K. Sui lli;ui..\N[) -Itcerlainly never reached me. (^oiild voii give me any idea of the date / Of course my inemory laimot take in inerythiiig. .Mr. Cas.hidv — 1 could noi. 1>K. HuTiiKnl,.\Ni>- 'Phere are two reasons why f s()eak as I do. One is, that my inemory is a blank as to an\ thing "t' the kind ever having come, and tln^ next is, that I know how delighted [ would have been if it had come. It woulil surely have fixed itself in iny mind. Mu. C.\s8inv— We certainly lost no tiine, when we dis- covered the mistake wo had made in that document, in furmuluting an apology. Mr. Whittington viotu it out, and you know how carefully and with what grace he would compose a document fif the kind. I am very sorry it it never reached this Hoard. Mit. MACLAKKN-Hut the Executive took action upon this, and if tlier(^ hod been an apology they would not have taken the action they did, which was read to us. Mil. Cassiiiv — I cannot say about that. The action may have Udcen place U'fore the ajiology arrived, Ijecause I do not think the apology was made until we heard something from home. I do not remember the order of events, but I know the apology was made. Rkv. Mil. Ki.Ti'LKWKLi,— Is Mr. Cassidy dealing with the (iocHlerham l)ei|uest or the children's abowances 1 Mlt. Uassidv -The (jooderham Ix-quest especially, and some expressions in the other. They were Iwth in the .same document, if I remember correctly. ly|;. EiiY — I think Air. (,'assidy means that the apology for both of the documents was in the one communication. Mil. Ca.ssidy — Oh, yes. 1 thought the two documents that came home here were in the one. Dr. HiiKiiis - Ought such a matter to be in the Minutes of (Jouncil as to the apology I Mil. t'A.ssiov - I do not know whether it is in the Minutes or not. It ought to be noted at ,iny rate. liKV. Mi[. CiiisuoLM — .Surely an apology of that kind would not pa.ss the Council without being in the Minutes. Mil. Cassidy — It ought to be noted. It is clear in my memory. If it has not come to hand there has been a miscarriage somewhere. Mr. Whittington wrote it. Mil. Ciii.siioL.y -He might have written it, but is it not a fact that if it passed the Council it would be noted t Mil. C.\s.siDY — It ought to be, certainly. Living in the country as 1 did, 1 was not as familiar with the minute book as .some others, but it certainly was passed.* We now come to the refiM'ence to that bequest, to the reference bv the I'iXecutive Committee to our statement on that liei|uest, which I do not think was a bit too harsh. I think that wlieiever such a statement as that was mode, wi' deserved all we got. A little further down in the Review it is said, "This, 1 believe, is one of the harsh letters of which T>v. Eby com- plained the Hoard can now judge with how much reason. It mav not be ..ut of jilace to show how this matter was viewed bv I >r. Macilonald when replying to my letter under date of i»eceniber,'' and so on. (From Dr. Macdonald's letter reiuls i|Uotation commencing, " Heferring to the document in regaril to salaries, " etc.) Mil. .Mailaiuon That was the j-ear after the letters came, and Dr. Macilonald does not seem to be aware of any such apology. .Mil. Ca.ssidv I cannot explain that. But certainly mv meniorv is clear as to what 1 have stated. I cannot but regret that Dr. Maedonakl did not say this when the document came to his hands befcre it was sent home here. I felt greatly grieved myself when 1 discovered what was done, l)iit it Could not lie helped. (Heads again from Sec- retarv's Heview) : "The first serious friction of an open kind biltween the Council and Dr. Macd(mald seems to have occurred in the early |)art of ISi):!." (Beads bahmce of |iaiagraph, closing with the words, " Chairmanship of the Council.") I only wish to call your attention to the fact that on two occasions Dr. Macilonald has given u]) the position, where it was eeitainlv a mistake on Ids part. On that occasion it was a great inconvenience, and resulted in a good deal of humiliation to us, his doing that which this Hoard, I think, would not consider a legal step for him to take. As we understand now, he had no right to resign under any circumstances without the ])ermission of this Board. A resolution is referred to on the middle of the first column of the fourth page, a lengthy resolution moved by myself, which may look to you as undertaking a good deal. Tins is a resolution for which we are se\eiely criticized, 1 believe, liecause it undertakes to pjsl|i(me Dr. Eby 's return, andtiyand patchoveralittlecrisis. Thatmay look from this end as if we undertook a good deal. We did not feel that • sinci' llu' Ikmid McrliiiK I carefullv rf-e\aiuim(l the Minntos of tll^ .latum tliuiinii CiHimil, unit fimiiil iiii I'lifv clalpil .lanuiiry I.tli. IsKl, liistrufliny the rhiiiniiin mill Mr. WliininKinii hi urilt' to tlii> llnanl r spei'liliif the Memorial ot the r.iuiicil f* tlic(;llil*lri'ir>' iillowaiice*. "uitlnlrftwinir nil olTeiiuive or miestion- alile wonliiig. Imt resiH'clluU.v ami llriiilv maintaliiiiix the 8ubijtaiir9 of tile mem- orial." There ia no trace ol any letter, however— A. S. I IOC GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1895. way there. We felt na though we were doi'ig something to bridge over a crisis, and prevent NOinetliing worse from happening. We had Dr. E)iy >'ery niuuh disturbed and anxious to go home. We iia)uncil. Dr. Suthkrland— That part tlint you are just rend ing, that resolution that you ha\e just Iwen refpiiin^; to with regard to Dr. Eby |)ost|iouing his rt-turii until after Conference, is immediately followed with this : " That it is the opinion of this Council that Dr. Eby ought to h«' allowed to return to Caniuia,' and so on. What policy was being carrie«l out which oiiusi-d thciu to insist so strongly on his remaining and then ininitMlintt-ly ask for his return home on furlough 1 Mr. Cassidt — There is a time that the work bn-aks, and if he went home at the time he wanted to go it would mean knocking out a year. We tlioiight if we would let him run away he might bring back )>art of his family; that would give him a home in Tokyci again, and without losing a year we would get him hack again iiitu his work. )t was not by any means any thought of tak- ing too much upon ourw.lves. I renienil>er well the trying circumstances, and I think it bridf^eil over a crisis for tlie time. We now come to the ipiestioM of the diH|H>Hi(ii)n of surplus funds by the Council, page .">, tirst column : " Tn illustrate another jsiint I cjill attention to certain resolu- tions of the Mission Council," etc. (Iteitds this |iaragrapli.) The close of this seittion refers to Shizuoka ehurch and iShizuoka district. I cannot recall exactly which !,'nuii .'his was. Hut there was in our hands a grant that was (.Tven for educational use in the .Shizuoka district : I think then it was 600 yen ; but out of that we liclpeil. I think, four churches, and by leaving it in our hands that way for educational use, partly in loans and partly in grants, so as to take hold of a little inovenenl to build a church when it would come, I think we really did the vcrv best that could have lieen done with the immey, and this was a plan that was simply applied at the place nf greatest pressure at the time, with the consent of the Cnuiicil. I think there is very little to criticize there. Now, let me ^ly a word as to i-ents, \Vc have regarded Dr. Macdonahl as practically our rent stvarcl. At least that has l>een my feeling. Living "ut in the ecmnlry, I do not know ho* much of a part the Exeiutive nuinbi'rs may have taken in the distribution of rents, but it was always my feeling that in Dr. Macilonald's hanils it was very safe : it was well applie 'I'okvo, where there were tn) many contingencies, that the prcHctsIs ot those liimses, over and alsive their repairs, should be lulministered in that way. We never understissl we were doing anything that was ultrn rifv*, and what was done was done almost entirely by Dr. Macdon.ild, so that if there was any criticism to fall on anylxsly it should fall almost exclusively upon his shouhlers on that point. Dr. Sutherland-- I;, seems to have Imen iloni- by reso lution of Council. Mr. CA88ii>v--Dr. Macdonald would submit the plan to Counoil, and almost invariably we said, " Yoa, if that is your plan all right, ycm have our consent." So that that is the way it was done. Then, " ProUjst of the Missionariiis," under the head of " Children's Allowances." This prote.st, like other parts of the document, was very strong. I think I have said to the memU>rs of the lioard that at that time we considered Dr. Et>y's cose a V)»t civse. Ho was in a |iosition whore he hiul a miMleratelj largo family. There were no other families of any account then in the field, and Dr. Eby was naturally allowed to take tl o load, [t was at a time when the financial pressure was heavy. It hap^Msnetl at an unfortuiiaU! time U; discuss any changed relations, becaus<> the yen ran up enonnuusly high, and it really emphasized the ipieHtion to a dcgit'e that could hardly lie ap|>reciat«!d on this hide. I can well rememlier what a diiference it made in our living there when the yen ran up to 9.^, Ilui I would ask you to U-ar in mind this : The statement is made .somewhere in this document that after the chil- dren's allowance ijuestioii hod licen settlwl, still the mis- siotiarics were dissatisfied. 80 far as 1 am concernee ke|it upas I hough there was dissatisfiMtion I^et me say, in re;L;ard to this i|uestion, that there was a good deal of anxiety there with reference to the older men. I can well renieuiher, when this i|uestion came u|i, one man who fell Acry unsettled by it ; lie had only one child; it was Mr. WhitiingtoM. Hut as sihiii as he sjiw it was a matter that niiulit be cut otl'at any lime, he said, "That makes a groat dilVen'iice in the way I lisiktsi at tliA thing; I never looked at it in tliat way at all. That i.s, the (.'hurch takes no responsiliilily of my child being here ;" (that was when the removal altogether of the grant was cimsiilered.) He sai the (siianitaii, that point is explained. The resolution intrisluc(«l was not with a view to ii\ salaries, it was simply moved with a view in aMiid the unfoi'lunatecireuinslance that occurreat deal better without it. Then, when the amendment wan carried, it was not rescinded ; it stands in the Discipline to-day. If you turn up the Discipline, page IS,"), section 4, down about ten lines, you will come to it. That is what remains, and was never rescinded. The Conference never changed its mind. 1 1 is stated in theOutlook of October,'94, that there seemed 111 1)6 a general conviction that the Conference, under a sympathetic impulse, had subjected the Church to a dan- jjerous policy in regard to foreign work, as if Conference them had slipped into the blunder, and then had found its inistikke and rescinded its action. Tho action never was resoindod. I asked the Conference to reconsider the iiMiendment in order to allow me to remove the last part (if a sentence, liecuuse that sentence seemed to give ott'ence to some, ami for some other reasons. In fact there were two or three reason.i. It seemed to grate on the feelings of sDiue, and I thought it was tonoiliatory to take it off'. For another reason, it favored putting in the Discipline some- thing that adhered too closely to finances, and I certainly WHS not advocating a mutter of sti|H;ndH. As I said then, I was simply a matter of permanency I was aiming at, and Dr. Maclaren suggested at the time it would lie more suit- able to put it in the regulations of the Board than the Discipline of the Church. I regards*! his suggestion a.s wise, and I ssked the Conference to allow that t()be recon- sideremi\ I was going home to ng way from the truth at the same time. I am vei-y sorry for two or three (]iiotati()ns M'lit from Dr. Macdonald, which compel me to place my ndiil in opposition to his and allow you to cluxwe, where hi' sjiys 1 said a thing, where 1 say I did not. It is an iiiifnrtunate kind of an argument and one to Ix! avoided as I'^r as |«is8ilile. Dr. Macdnnald says that 1 staled, bet'ore nulling away, that V was coining home to oppose the IJoard liccause of tlie way they treated Dr. Kby. Now, I said ■.omi'thing nearly like that, but very dill'erent. If I can iviiieinlx!r correctly, it was that I was coming home to 'ii't'i'iid Dr. Eby, liecause I did not think he was fairly liiiiteil. Now that is a very dift'eient thing. 1 iiev(-r ^ riiil, if I can at all rely upon my own memory, that 1 was uoiiig to op|x)se the Hoard. That would be a foollianly tiling. It is not like what I would say. I may ajipeal to I lie Hiiard, or appear Ix'fore the Hoard, or anything of the Kind, but to oppose the Hoard I do not think 1 have iMT useil such an expression in my life. I meant by it -.niilily this : I thought Dr. Eby was not treated fairly, :!ui| I might give you that now, in one word ; it is in this, iliiil when his TalM'rnacle was undertaken, however e.x pen ^ivc it was — however unreasonable, 'ir wild, or eiUliusiastie il may be -once it wai undertaken 1 did not think any of 11^ should go back on that to hiad him with the responsi- Ipility of its initial ex|M'nse. It may Ixi ever so wild, but I timught after that we should let the initial expense and initial dilliculties, and whatever Dr. Kby might do that was not suitable at any particular time, deal with it then, lait not go back on it ; and that was the oidy way in which 1 did not think he was fairly treated. 1 think, HI n'gard to this dixjument thriughout, that if any of UH hud ten years of correspondence worked up from an unfavorable standpoint, and by someone who had suob an opportunity of doing it as the Heeretary of this Board, -if anyone hod a ten years' wview of his life brought np in such a way — he wouUi not stjind very much better than Dr. Eby. My heart aches for Dr. Eby. If he is charged with anything there should lie enough brought to prove it ; but to see the amount of matter that is rolled on his shoulders here, it is not any wonder that our dear brother groans. All I ever meant liy any such expression was, that I would defend him as far as I could. 1 do not defend Dr. Eby in everything. Dr. Hutherlaud knows very well 1 was not a supporter of his Taliemucle schemes in the first place ; that as a Council we never fell in with it until it iji'.me strictly in the denominational line. It is stated here that it has been rtferred to as an unde- nominational scheme. The Taliernade as we know it never was talked of in that way. These remarks were made in the first visionary views of a great scheme that Dr. Eby was aiUiicating, if f remember correctly, and we never touched it until it came into denomin- ational lines ; and then I can remember how Dr. Cochran and others looked upon it as being simply a big evangelistic church ; and we regarded it as a Methodist church from the Ix'giiming. Although Dr. Eby called it a Tabernacle, it was put under a Metlwxlist church government from the very beginning, and we had no other idea of it. So that I do not think it is fair to go back and take the first vision- ary expressions before it was ever touched and weave that intti the thing as it is now, and frame it into an objection and hold Dr. Eby responsible for the whole thing. There is a statement at the very foot of this page : " As a rule, the Boarfl has not favored doubtful experiments like the .Self-suiUKjrt movement." I do not think I have anything to sa\- in regard to the Self-snpport Band. I never had anything to do with it. I am very sorry that we had .so much to do with it in one way. Not with the men that are in it, or were in it — I have seen them ; I think we have grand men who were in it — but as a l)and I never con8iderer thought we were not fairly dealt with along tliat line, as far as salary is concerned, and in genera!. The only thing I aimed at at that time was the changing of things when we might just as well have taken some other way and sjived the trouble into which we fell. There is a reference here to " Financial Provision for Missionaries," at the fmit of page 7, giving the salaries of some where it is said, "over aiid alxne what some of the iiiissionaries earned by teaching." You do not mean to say that they added to that salary by teaching? Di). SrTiiKni..\Mi~ Yes, sit. Do not misunderstand the meaning of that, though. 1 mean to say that the figut'-es hen' repr»'>ent that actual amount in gold paid out of niissionaiy funds, and the rea-son why there appears so much discie|)ancy between the sala'ies of some and of others is partially accounted for by the fact that some earned a (lait of their full salary by teaching; but that part which they ejvrned by ti>acliing does not appear in these tiguivs. That is what T mean by it. Mil. Oassiiiv — Do you mean to say that some of these salaries were as hi;jli as fourteen hundred a year, and that they were earning money besides that? Dh. SuTiiKiiLAND— If )'ou will look at what precedes that. This shows the average annual payment in gold during the first twenty-two years of the history of the Mission, and you will see that in the case of Dr. Cochrane anrl Dr. Eby their salaries appear much higher than others. But in the "case of several of the others we show simply III 108 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1896. their salary, leas what they earned by teaching. Cir- cuoiRtanoes were suih, I believe, that Dr. Kby could not give time to teaching, uuil theroforo the full nmi)unt |)aid by us apjiunrs here. Then l>e hod the liirger fikmily, hm yuu know. Mr. Cabsidv — As long as it is understood that whatflvcr teaching wo did never alTected the aggregate of uur sal- aries. Dr. SlTTHlRLAND— No. You just received the stated salary, and what you earned by teaching funned a part of it. Mr. Cabsidv— I know the first year I v as in Slii/.uoka ray earnings wore considerable, but they were charged on salcry. Dk. Sutherland -I think alt<:>gptlH!r some thirUw'ti hundred dollars was earned in that way by Mr. Cossidy during tliai time ; not in one year, of coui-se. Mk. Uassidv — There was more than that ejirueil, hut I divideoiit that. "X Change of Front -The Arbitrary Cry." (.\t the foot of p. 7, col. 2.) "I have previously referred to the fnet that at the General Conferenin' the chief, if not the sole, complaints of the returned missiouniies hars," and so on. (Quotes down io the words, " have Iwon brought prouiinently forwiinl.") I do not know what to suy ttlH>ut a statement of that kind. It sounds t^s) much to me like the wiiy one |x)li- t; a wonderful speech that esraped the stenographer and everylsMly el.se, tn account for onother »pe«wh in the (icneral Conference of which 1 have said a great many remai-ltable tiling, '.vhicli 1 do not think is correct at all. What I said was u|Hjn practical business exprrasions on the line of which ! have spoken alreiuly. It was not a complaint in i-cgard to sti|>ends. It had not finances and sti|)enils in undue prominence. It was simply, as I say, an aim at something that was permanent and consistent, and there liiin been no < liange of front along that line, nor has there U'cn anv ^uoh agit4tti trying to say. i uld hardly ojx'n my mouth on unythin;; of the kind but wi i.'lt there was a sort of tendency from some quarters to say, " Ft sounds as if they were after mon(!y." I felt greatly grievellng of my heart to-day is, there is no man in the whole Church 1 would rather work with as Missionary S<-cretary than Dr. Sutherland. It is not Dr. Sutherland I am quarrelling with, if I am quarrelling with anybody, but with some things he has done. Kbv. Dii. Sinn Kiii.ANn— That is quite correct in one particular. Mr. Cossidy and I are not quarrelling (H'rsonally. .Mu. (,'assidv — He |M)ints out our kindly regard to him when we were in Japan. He might point it out now, 1 was going to say, and not make any mistake. I had not the slighu-sl dei the Ueneral Conference t«> disturb him. I n(n'er urged a vote for anylmdy or against anylssly in the (Jeneral Cnce, and unless I greatly I'hange my mind and fall tmrn grace I never shall. It is not my dis|Nisition. I nither, as a trio of officials whom we had liound ourselves together to overthrow, it is a pure figment of imagination which exists in nolKidy's mind except those who imagine it. I base the kindest reganl for Dr. Macdonahl, and the same f T Dr. Sutherland, and I have never doae anything of the kind. I voted for Dr. Macdonnld until the day 1 left •lapan, and had no other intention but to ctmtinue to vote for him. If I changeit is all. I have not the slightest hard feeling against Dr. Macdonald. He has said sonn' thinjjs unkindly, but I have not the slightest ill-feeling towards liim. I do regret that he should take thot course or thai our ini-lh- - w.'^-fy! . PROOEEDINOa RE JAPAN AFFAIRS. lUO Tub Chairman— Wo will Hit here till after t«n. Hrv. Mr. KrTTLBWRLL— 1 would like to uok Mr. CnHsidy whether he did not, in the Ocneial Conforenco, eniphaHizo the deiiirobility of milking tlie«e appropriation* in such u wny that notiflcalionH Nhuuld be ){iven to the miflHionaiieH, iind they would have a chiinco to come home in cuhc they were diH«atiHtied 1 Mr. Cabhiuv — That wiim the piirt that was carried, and that I relaxed aftorwauls as U'louKing more properly to the Board, on Dr. Maclarou'H NuggeMtion. Dk. SuthERLAnu — JuMt the meaning attached to a word in all the difference there \» between Mr. CasHidy and my- M'lf on that point. I take it for grantt'd that a Conference <'annot rencind without reconNidering. Mb. Maclahkn— They did it in another way. Of course, I Ruppose that any (|ueHtioiiii that are to l)e put to Mr. Ciutsidy nwpecting the part he Iion gone over can be deferred until he cumes again. 1 Huppone that would be more convenient, TiiF. Chairman — Ybh; only I auppose it will he kept in mind. Dh. Siitiibrland — There wn.s juHt this one point that I tliuught of aHking Mr. Ca«aidy ; whether he waH aware of the intention on the part of the Council in Japan to vote Dr. Macdonald out I Mr. Cassidy — I wa« not aware of it at all. Dk. Sutiibrland— This Neems to l)e where one of the inifortunat« parts of the thing comes in, that many per- somi seem to make statements and they are not suic of their correctness, or they are denied afterwanls by the party himself concerneen so fre(|uently represented, on what a]ipeHrs to be g(MKl authority, that Mr. Cassidy not only knew of it, but was in hearty .sympathy with it. Mb. Cassidy- To say I was not in sympathy would have been a different thing. 1 said, from the time that letter was read, if I had been in .Japan I would have voted a.s they did. -Mb. Maclakbn — And did you communicate your views there after the meeting in Hamilton I Mb. Cassidy— I did to one party. Mb. Maclarkn — It was not under any secieoy ! Mb. Cassidy — 1 do not know aUmt that; I did not kniiw their views. .Mk. Maclarkn— But they knew yours? Mb. Cassidy —I nevt i- heard that they did. In fact the letter I wrote, in which I mentionwl that, so far as I could learn did not .seem to reach anyl)omeml)er mentioning my conviction on that I«iint at the time, and so far as I could tell afterwards the Idler was lost. But I will say tlii.s, that mouths bitoie it was done Mr. Haunby and myself, talking together, said, ill the light of tbese things, we see now that is what will come surely. We judge able to tell just how the constitutional diHiculty lay and how it could be solved ; but that seemed to be shuiitt'd off at the (Jeneral Confer- ence, and we had to take the course of events, it appeared. Then with regard to that document Mr. Cassidy brought in on finances, I knew no more about it than any man in the (ieiieral Conference, aside from Mr. Cassidy. It was a surprise to me, yet it was on the line of what I thought was correct, and when facts were impugned or called for there, upon which the thing was somewhat based, I nmdc my .tateiiieiit at the General Conference ; but it w as (111 the spur of tli'> moment. Whatever was said there, I had never thought of it in that connection before. I regret more than anyone can know the fact that financial affairs were brought up at all, and that the idea prevailed that we were anxious on financial lines. I think perhaps I will not say anything more about that just now, as it will probablv come into better connection and be more thoidiiglilv dealt with when I get along to about that part ; ^iily i w-anted to say these things as a preliminary, following on what Mr. Cassidy has said, so that I will not need to traverse the same grouiitl a second time. In aliiiiist every single thing that he has said I hold with him. lie has spoken my thoughts. Now, what I have to say to-night is personal, and there is just this thing that I would like to say in starting. I would like the lirethren to try to come with me and look at the situation from the standpoint of a missionary in a foreign land, who takes the promises of the Bible and the coiiiniaiuls of the Bible as mer.iiiig what they say, and who Iwlievos in the presence of the supernatural in the conipiest of the world for the Lord .Tesus Christ. 1 want to have that laid down as a basis. .Iu.st let us go together, as on the line of alisiilute cnnseeration to this one great iilea ; leaving home, leaving all idea of preferment here, leaving all prosi>eot of what a man might obtain in this couiitrv, aiul going and giving his life wholly and solely from beginning to end, expecting to live and die on the mission field, working for this one great object on a line with the Church to which he belongs, absolute loyalty to the Church, hungering that more may be done than appears pussibli- by the ordinary methiHls, and earnestly desiring to make the institution of the Church and our work accom- plish the very largest amount of good. Now, then, you M-M 110 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1895. )P another Htop. You x(>t into the forniKn flelil, int4) thn work thnt wn hiivc to (to thnni. You »■'« nt once iti » ■ituation whom you arc iMitiroly cut otV fnini ull thn ikMHociiv tiono ot lionip, from nii-ii of your owii rttnn, fi-om u RooinI and monti ntniiHplicn> wlicrx you fto'l you iir<' K*!ttin){ uh well M giving, wlipri; thprn in HtimuluH itn in hiiinl, niiiking itour littlt* wionH there nt work, crtiiitiiit( ti little Hiwii'ty, an world around ui, in a kind of onviiimnient that Iiiih a |HK'uliar inlluxiioo, in the first plaott drawing u» togi'ther, if w(> work in har- mony, until tht-re is an alftiftion that is very |x'i"uliar and strong, and on the othrr hand, if then- is friction, it seenH to be ocoentuated UtuaUMt- of the little world in which we are moving, and it HtJinds out large. Then there in another tliiii;; in .la|>an. Ymi have noticed how very many of llw miiwionarii's have alreiuly returned, and the Himi- of oilir.' mixNion!). The terrilic strain there in that land U|)on the nervoUH hvhU'IU i» Monie- thing that is unl<|ue. We go t4i Japan. Some |)iiiple imagine that Japan is a lH>autiful land,- -and so it is. a place to go picrdcing ; |H>(ipte oiine from China to In' in vigorateci in Japan, hut at a certain season of tlie year. We have travollerN who come ut the very favoralile Mca.son of the year, and enjoy thenisel\ es and tfo away, and tliey tliink the missionary liiis nothing to endure tliere : liut when you come and live in that country, and fei'l that in Uie atmosphere, with its lack of ozime, and amongst tlic people, you arc giving out all the time of hisly ami nind, and soul and morals, your strength of every kimi is an everlasting breathing out, and out, and getting nothing in from ony source whatever — the iliirerenee is wonderful, esiiecially in a si-nsitive, nervous constitution like mine, that stands almost all the time just on the iHU'ders of health and sickn<'^ it is as kiH-nly sensitive, and as power- ful in ita workings, , any force that you can imagine on the face of the earlii ; tiie ditlerence that there is in this land, when 1 come hen- and hreathe the air in, I feel thiit it i.s giving me strength with every l>reatli 1 draw. I get amongst the [K'ople, and frel tliey are giving me strength, and every time 1 eoine in contmrt with them, anse years mid done the work that I have. That has its elFect, not simply upon myself, hut upon others. That is the situation there. When a man leaves his home, and his fn.-nds, and g'svs *way there, he feels he is cut olf from his Itoard and ilie administration ; the cominiltee stands there jis his custo was the one (Mjint of contact where we and the t'hmvli iiiih'I and it is of the extremest importance that at that central jwiint theie Ik- a sympathetic heart to uiid'-rstand ls)tli sides of the ca.se, and U> (uljust dilliculties and lack of harmony, oi' anything of that kind, as (piiekly im it ari.ses, and it ought to lie done as scsni as possihle. I will not dwell on that. In the year 1H7C. without any .seeking or volunteering on my part, I was chosen to go to Japan as one of the wissionariss of our t'hurch. 1 went at the Ix'hesl of the Church. I went with un!»iundisl faith in the Church, and unlMinnded faith and love in its ollicial repre- sentatives, ready to Is- led in Jajjaii hy any le.uler that would lead, and to work t^j^rether with any man that w(mld work, and set me to work with any fellow toilers for the Master. I rememU'r when Dr. \Vis»d had me in liis olHce, and was telling me aliout the work and what was liefore me, he said to me, " ihi.ther Kliy, yoii have an imagination that will in all prohahilsty lead you into trouhle." " Well," I said, " Dr. Wood, do you think I ought to get rid of it or cimtrol it, or what sho'ild I do with it T Or, do you consider it a defect I " " Why no," he said, "that is the very strength you have, niul hy that means you will be ahle to aci'oinplish n very great deal. You will see into things other |tts)ple may not see; hut, mind you, it will hring you to t*M»rs." And you will remeinlier that I had had some ex|H'rience inOerinany, in the iihl country. I have Ih'cii there, and had lea'-xed to talk in my father's tongue, anil had preachisi in (inrinan. I hotJ learned the h'rench. and 1 hiul preached in French, and he said to me, " Now vou have a training, and you have hiul travel, and we thiiik that in all prohnhility your iKmition will lie in the city of Tokyo, where so many of these nutiimal affairs are me«-ting, and in all prulxiliilily you will have a chance there of exerting all the powers that you have, all the training that tiisi has given you, and the ex|M>rience that you li.ive hiul in Kuro|Hi, and in the (ierinnn work here in this country, will stanii you in gtMsl steiul in the new mis sion tiehl.' And that was the way in whieii ho luokiMl at it, ami so oir I starteil full of liofM-. It was not long nftei I got to .lapan when we ha\inci' there, and it happened to Ite just the right thing to hring liiick new life to my cinistitution, and give niu an op|Hirtunity of learning the language under oircumstanees that wen' very favorahle, iMteuuse we were cut olf from everylsMly else, and we had no Knglish talking at all, excej>t in our own family. I got a horse and travelled all over that ilistrict. We have no trains there. My Hr.sl convert is tod.iy the pastor of a self supporting church and chairman of ilie district there. However, after u while it seene'nii«l to grow more and more on iln professional side. Hut, on the other hand, I felt all tin time that there was a hu-k of JH)licy, a lack of leaderslii|' Tliert* was this, that I felt in my heart there was i dilliculty in the way. Dr. Macdoimhl was doing a certain amount of work which se«'me Japanese, and that the foreigners should be largely evangelistic. I wmilil plejui that 1 might have more work to »)o. Whatseeninl to him to be a man's work in connection with his medii li Skn^tii^r PROCEEI)IN(»S HH JAPAN AFFAIHS. Ill work woM the lunount of work that he wwmed tolxt willing thut I iihuuld do, itiul wiM NutiHriixl with, >ml it did not liiu'dly tounh my littUi flnK<'r uf what I felt I ou^ht Ut do, luiil Ihiit I wiw nltlt^ to do, if the o|>|)nrtunity wen' only ),'ivi'ii ; but I wiiH lM>uiid thnm hand and fnald did not mimmm to m'lt iIk' nwewtity of juHt that kind of work, that to nic was thi« si iin|M)rtant work of all (Ir would Honiiitinirs ljik<' iiix vMtli him, K<> like u Hhot from on« |ila<;<> to lh(> nthrr and luick again, [ fnlt that the thing wit ought to do, nr tliiit I ciiuld do, aN 1 had nothing iilsn to do, wiin to go from ..nr place to another, N|H'ncl a little time and hi'l|> the hi.'tlin>n every wliere, inspiring them ami hliowing them liiiw to conduct mi-etingx tlicnmelveH, gathering large tings togptJier, and Ih. I. wing mywelf in iis an evangel- itie worker. I'leaxe underHtami that thin \n not a coin (ilauit against Dr. Mac^donald. It is Hiniply the evolution 111' two different kind-; of nieii. V'ou have in |)r. .Mac iloMiild a man mighty in physii|uc, a gn-at strong man |ihvsically, a large heart, as i)ig as his ImkIv, and iiigger iiHi, taking in the whole world, and kindly in iliH|Hisitioii, ,ind willing to give himself no eM concen- liiitioii of his Ix'ing seemed (o touch on ju.st a plar'e where III. Macdoiiald .seemed to have no consciousiuMs of the iiii'il of »uch a thing at all. That is the peculiarity of III!' situation. He did not sj-ein to understand the nei'es >n\ of that kind of woi.: whidi tts. I would go to tlii'se little places ami I could tjilk to them as a Hible il.i>-(. I cack of that kind, but where every man would have specitic work appint out u I'citain fact here, because you will see just how a certain element of the trouble bi-gan away back there. When I was in the roard meeting in Halifax, I pleaded for men to go to .lapan to learn the lai ■ "e and be preachers. I emphasized the fact that Dr. ran was in the school work, and Dr. .Macdonald wivi the medical win-k, and that the nieii who wre perfectly free for preaching were almost I'ontiiied to myself. It seemed to create an impres- sion in the r.oard that made Dr. Carman say, " Now, brethren, let it be understood that this is like a rej)ort from tile field, and do not let anylKidy report this abroad in such a wav as to be misunderstood. " I wns startled. 1 thought that perhaps I had said something that would Iw misunder- stood, and f rcmemlrtM- getting up there at that time and emphasizing more strongly that Dr. Macdonald, thcmgh he had not the anuiunt of liberty to preach, — that is, he was not free ; his medical work was taking up his time, — that although he might not be able to do tlie amount of preach- ing that some other men did, at the same time ho was an all round missionary, and that thei'e was not a man in ■lapaii or aiivwhere else that earned his living as well as Dr. Macdonald did, and held a iiosition as a missionary iiioretrulv than he. .Vfter I came Ixick to Japan, I found that an impression had been conveyed to Dr. Macdonald's mind in some way that I was opiswed to him. (.At this stage a motion of Rev. Mr. Shorey to adjourn was lost.) I?i',v. Dii. Ebv (resuming)— Referring again to General Conference legislation -I have not the Discipline here. 1 think the now Discii)line is the same as the old. The Chairman — In the new Discipline it is on page lOO. Rkv, Mu Kkttlbwkli. — I rise to one other point, while Hi (IKNERAL BOARD OF MISHI0N8, 1806. he id HmlinK it. I think if wn nm liorx nr«' not lirrc umlcr rfwiliition. Mi(. (lUHMKY It ii nut fair In I'r. Kliyto Imvn him ri-inl thin Ntntoint'nt of hii to i all want t hnni-il liy tliii I'lininiittcc , hut tlii> men wlin livi' At long ilisliiuc'oi hiiva ^ini> Imini*, jiiuI I wmilil liko ti> fall for n i^tunt on that iitumlion of adjouriuiii'nl. f «> and ifimrtitl. (.Xdjoiirmm'nt at 10.:lO|).in until <.) am ) TlThiSDAY, OnroHKH Utii, ISO.'). Th<> lloaril ri'HuniisI at '.• a.m. Aftor ri'lii^ioud cxoroini'M and rpiuliiiK minutcH : Dk. Sutiikiii.\M> -1 think tln-iv ai-o ncvcral ilcH>unn'nti4 touchinK U|miii hoiiii< |ilia.«» ot' this. lapiin allair that have not tieon rniul 'I'hrri' an- rcsohitlcniM of tin- Couik'iI in .la|>jiii HtroiiKly iirninK t(ii> i-<'a|i|«iintiui'til nt' Mr Casxiily ami Dr. Kliy t4i tilt' Jaiiaii uork ; and I think aUo. tli(i(ii;h it Ih not Hent to nic, that tliiMc in a ri'^tolution of tin- l/mdon ('iin- fer<>nei>, anh»i'i'i that rf«.lu(i if tin- London Confi-n-n-'i- in your liandM. Dh. SiiTllKiil.ANii Till- iitii- from .la|iaii is t'otiljiini-il in a letter of |)r. Manlonald. 'Phis li-lti>r has not Ih'-ii n-ad to tht! Hoard. It lias lii-in read ti> tlu- Kxi-riilivt* and referrt-d liy thi-m to tint tii-m-ral lloanl. I would NU);}{i<->t that the /lorlion it-fi-rnntJ to tin- c-tinmtvs lie referred to the t'ciminiltee on Korci^tn .\|i|iiii|irMtiohs without oecu|iy- iuK your time in readiiiK it. ('I'liis wa« attendeil to, and the other |Hirtioii» of ilie letter wire then reiul liv I'r. Sutherland.) 1>R. \Vm. WlLLlAJIN then r.-ad a inpv of liie l.4indoii Conference ivsolution < iii million it wa- i-eferr.-d t^i Com- tnittee of the Whole. On inotinn of .Mr. .M iilni.ii, the llmiil resoheil itw-lf into Committee of the Whole. Hov. Mk. AlKINS-Het'ore Dr. Kliy takes the Hour, I would like to know if it is iiiidersliKiil tliat he will eon tinuc th- making of his stiiteineiit until he ;,'intiiin that I wai* eom|N<:led to )(ivtake. Hnither Kby is iniignifying it. .Mil. .M.«('l,Ai(KN If y lu will allow me, I think what \\\- given rise to the ini.sapprehension is the remark in ule liv (he Chair, I think very kindly, at least it so souikIihI to , that he thought the underHtanding was clear enough that Dr. l-'liv was to have aceesa to those paper*. TllK I'llAIKUAN Yes. Mil. Mai'I.arkn I think that is the only reiinrk. I . Wim.iamk F remeinlH-r taking part in this dis.'iiHsion, 1 fell like making the way as clear t ii Dr. Kliy as we [siHsilily could, and that was the reason I pi'o|His(sl the resolution. I saw he liiul misunderstiHi'l it. but I called no attention to it, thinking it would pa.ss iiniil lli.ither Kby liiins<-lf brought it out very diiitinetly ihni Im' liiisiinijersliNHl it. 'I'lien the (.'hair mode the remarks in •"' in liarmony with what Dr. Maclai'<-n has said, I think, t'nii any other expression given here. Of coufse I louM not Is- ex|H'ctiHl to feel as keenly as Dr. Kby would iinlii the eiicum.stiince.s, but I did not understand the Chun ;i- rebuking Dr. Kby. I unilerHtfHsl him as expressing a ii' grel. TllK ('haihman And the Chair has held a steady li mi that he should have those do<-uments. There C(-rtainlv .v i« no iiiiput.ition of the kind, whatever. Hrother Kbv < m priH-eed. lie i-iin withdraw that, or let it rest where it i^ Hkv. Dh. Kiiv The only thing I have to say is tli.ii ill t going away the i xpression that I refer to was inotle. I'lr haps I niay have felt it more keenly than was n<-ce^Miy, but at the same time there was an iin|ilication thai iiui' was JM-iiig wasted, and at the same time I hiul not Imd an opportunity from Saturday evening until Monday nioi iniii' to «(•<• those documents. I do not dwell on that, Iiowimt. I would rather take it back than ilwoll on it at all, bcriiM' it is not on that sort of thing I want to dwell. Hkv. Dk. HKliios -Well, 1 do not think there is iin thing to dwell on. To my mind and to my spirit iImit was nothing whatever that partook in the least in the nature of u rebuke. TllK CiiAni.«AN Oh well, let Brother Eby have what lie wants of that. witultl have ,nil liM>kinK V timt wax t, uiiil thi< i-iiiitiniioun iiIi'I'vaI, not I wlii'n tlii^ »Mkii ill "uili |irnliiilily >(ii ri^lit luTc, I lltl'll it H(l MM > nark in nil- liy KOUIIiIihI til ,r tmough tliii' rpniark. I 'I" m I>r. Khy Miiv^ until luivt« iliMi.' ti^niiiK. (Mli.i hail Ix-cn [■<" ) have acceitrt '" taking jmrt i" ^ay iw fli'in t"! im thi' ri'iisoii I litUlullTStlKl'l 1' woiilil |m»» iiiiii' liiilini'tly tlmi I" 111- iriiiaik« Ml ill, I tliink. t'li'i I'limw I i-"u,.l ;i)y wiiillil iiii'l'i iiii'l tlic ("Imii 1- ••X|irfSHill)i :t 1' •Id a »t«aily li.u.i icri' oortainlv > i- Hrntlu'l- Kl'v 'I" t ri'Kl whtTi- It I'' to Hiiy is tliiii :ill ■n jU»t UH I »:l- wiiH inmii'. ■'' ' vn was n(■^'l•^•'ll>. licatiiin that uiw [ had nut hmi :iii Monday niuiinna on that, liu«' 'I lit at all, 1 I'M HI-'' ilwell. ink then* i>* '"^ 41 my Ki>ifi' ''"''■ tho leant ill ''"i Ehy have wha \v mm,if*'.'wmi'^W ^.W jH"*M^», 4' V* PROOEBDINQS n»r. Du Bit— U MMmMl to m« «t thn tiinii a rahukn, and l«t U gi) ; ihil U »ll I uaii *ay. I fuit wimnded, and |Mirha|M t wan tuittaken, I will allow it. TlU ClIAIMMAN -My hrotlinr, I can awiurn yuu [ had no iiitniilioii lA wounilinK you ; I liava nvnry intxntion to mn that you gift (air pinv m far an that ko*)"' Hnv. Dh. Euy -You will rninninlwr that on Monday MiiirninK I niado a Ntatoinimt that I wan dHNiroiin of having v«ninK '^"'1 makn my ntatt-- iiifnt in the evenini;. TIiIn wiw KranU^d. I wnnt Iioiih-. I had not lieen home many minutm until a inHHi«r i'am<<, or a leleiihonn immiMKe, that I wiut waiiti'r. Kliy iMtURed, thnn Mid, mimnwhat liroknnly) : MrnlhrtMi, I Hill afraid I am Koing to faint [ will havn to nit down. I'hn riHult ximply of thii diMMimnnt in thiH, that I want to t; liefore mo, and all thn n munh to havn at Inast a day and a iil^ht. I would like very well if wn had a doctur whu wciiild take me in haiiil and give mn munnthingto siunp iin, iiiiil put me in a position in wliii-h I can carry tluN thing .III. I wouhl give tcHlay oiiu hundred dollars to have night hiiiirs Nieep, if I had it to Hparo. lUv. Dr. Ht'Tiuni.ASi) I do not know that thn diwu- iiii'iit, (that it tho Atat^Miinnt that is lieforo thn Hoani), need lii'liw thia matter at all. That statnmnnt of mine is simply till' .'4t4>ry which the inlssiimarinN havn lH>nn dninanding t'l'iiin us for a good while past, anil all that sneins nncessary III ilii i« (or the missionarinii t^i state thoir case to this liiiud, an thny have Imm-ii stating it all ovnr thn country. Ii I, .s Imen ro|)eatoeakiiigof thin, I want to ninphasize that point, iliii this stattunniit has nut cainn forth at ourdcsirn Tim vt.itriiinnt haa iMwn madn Imcausn it was insisted ujiun. Ill iiiin of our Annual t'onfnrnnccs, whnii 1 ilcprnciilcd till' iiitruduntion of a renolutiun iMwausn it winilil makn it iii'ccssary fur the Exer Suthnrland was to pursue in bringing thn thing out ; of course they could not know th't, and I confess that the whole thing is all new busineM t' mn -but with those letters thnra upon which he founds a nnrtain story, if those let tent aro given partially, if they am given out of tlinir coniinction, M HomrlsKly hero has said, if tlinm is anything wring alMiut them, [loiiit that out. If yuu nneil anylMidy tu help you, hit us have a committee of men who know Dr, Kby, whom he can trust, and go into that thing, and if l>r Sutherland has not given the whole of thn ciirrnspundnncn hnre, bring it out, but let us have soinnthiiig in linn that wn can see that this thing is going to havn an nnd. Mh. Maiply >,ym|>iktliixns with Krother Eby in thn ciinilitiun in which hn unfortunately iluds himself this Illuming. Physically and otherwise it is painful, and I think wn shiiuld avuld, and I am as anxious as any person cuuhl lie tu avoid, doing anything that by any kina of inis- n'prnsnnt ttiun evnn cuuld Imi cunstrued into anything like harshness. I think wc must avoid that at all hazards. I mallzn thn |ir. Rhy tlnds himself. I think he hat niiscuiistrund a considnrable part of the state- ment. Hii t'lir fruiii its being what hn has characterized it, I think at thn outsnt hn tisik to somn extent a wrong view of thn niiiltnr. It is ivally a review uf the history of the Hoard's action from thn standpoint of tho Oeneral 8ecm- tary, taken from olHcial documents in connection with the Japan Mission. Tlcit, of course, is not new to tlie-e breth- ren. l>r. Eby has rnviiiwinl a xi'vy large part of the subject matter of that ilucuninnt lioforn tho Executive Committee. I hud hnani nitlinr in thn committee or in the Board, I suppiHc, nearly every circumstance that is mentioned in l)r. Sutherland's Rnview. Others who are memljers both of thn liiiard and the Kxncutivn havo done the same thing. T may say that I do not know that there is one material circuiiistancn mentionnil in thn st4Vt<r of tho (Jnneral Board, a memlinr uf the Kxnciitivn ('oinmittnn, or a memlier of one of the sul>-ciiininitt4ies of thiise IkmIIos. So that [ think I could have reiniiincil away from this meeting without havini; lust ii sin);le cireiimstaiice in cunnoction with it. It refreslus my meiiiory, liiiwevnr. I have heard Dr. Eby liver It liuni' part uf it us well. He has traversefl a con- siih'ralilc p:irt of it U'fure tho Kxecutivo Committee, and also 1) 'furc the ('uiiiiiiittee on Japan A flairs a year ago — Dr. Evans, the Hun. Mr. Aikins, and some other members whom I do nut now recall. I was with them on the Com- mittee on .la]ian .Mfairs lust year, and Dr. Eby went over a large part of the ground of this document before ua in that comiiiittnn. That committee gave him a very full hearing, and he has appeariMi befom these various Ixxlies during thn last twnlvo months. That is apart from his condition this morning. I think it is painfully apparent to all of us that lie is not in a condition to go on with his statement this muriiiiig. Mu l.AMiii.v I sympathize as deeply as anybtxly here docs with the cuiulillun uf Dr. Eby. I uiiderstiind his foelings vnry well. Hut it seems to me that the entire stiiiy, this w'hule flfty-tive pages, is summed up in a very few wui-ds at thn end, and Dr. Eby is simply charged, if yuu nun call it so, with bcin^' exorbitant in his demands iuid with trying to duiiiinate the Woman's Missionary SiMiiety. Now Dr. Eliy has l)oen living through this whole thiiii; fur years, and ho must have it upun the end of his tongue and in his mind oompletnly. It seems to me it would be a very eiwy thing for Dr. Eby to contradict these 114 OliNKKAL BOAKI) OK MIHHIoNM, IH».V otMriffN, III Miy timt tlii'y ni-i* tint trui>, or l< matter wi*ll. i would not lilci< to limit him in ni\y wkv I Would lit lion) fur diiy« if it would |MMailily lielfi Dr. K>>\ Mid thU comiuittcw out of i\w troulilw wr iir«< in ; l>ut 1 think tie and Mr. Ciwiiidy ulioulil lx>tli ui«ut this ittutt>ini>nt. Are th<<*H vhnrK*** '•""» '"■ 'i"' Iriifl If tlify «"• trui', Ifl them tie admitt<- llifiii f>>i in*lly and briiiK (inKif hen- to HulMtiinlinti- tlii'ir Hiut<'iiii-nti<. or even if tlitiy urt" |Mtrtiiilly Inic, li't llir tliitiK In- iuliiiitt<- will nettle tlit< mutter tlii>n i:j tli<> iViir of (1nnitt4'riHin ctii ileny hut whnl iIiih KevM'w would Im n very valuuhle diH'uinent to anvone thnt ithoiild undertttke to write a hiHtort ot our MixHionn in •ln|mn, and there in a j^mhI deal of ancient liii*tor\ in it. I think it wouhl lie well if we Hhould cunie to the crucini |Miiiit ami leave the nncient hihtory out, it' we could only t(vl at it in tltat way I think we will Ik- lien- tor two or three week» if we are permitted to t4ike this matter up, and it ia not necewwry hu to do : and yet the document in itxelf i»e>Meople : liut can we not reach I In crucini |Kiilit in the matlci' wilhoiil )in\nn over the whole hitttory again iM-fon- llii,'lit I liearri Mr. ('afwidy Kay yesler day that he would lake lhi.4 imiiiiinK; that in, HUp|MMin); that Dr. Kliy would tinish lanl night. Now Ih llnither Cawtidy free enough and strong enough to occupv thin f'ln- mion in Niieaking to iIun Hoard. We would not lose ni.y time in dealing with iIiIk matter, nnd thereliy give a rest tNii|y could give IiIh Nt«lement and ketip on with it until it in iiniNhenient iK not a true stntement of our wiirk in Japan. Mn. C'liiNiioi.M That is the |Miiiit. Dh. Kliv — It is unfair from liegiiming to end, and yet you are accepting it largely as true. Dr. Si-Tlimil,ANli— I wish to lihc to a [Niint of oixler hen". Statements precisely like this were miule liy Dr. Eby on one morning of our whmioii. On the next day, on reflc-ction, or some little time aft( rwnrds, he aKknl leave to withdraw those stjitements, and now, lu I understand him, he in re|i«'uting them again. Dk. Kiiv- NS'lial do you mean ? 1>K. SiTllKRI.AMi 1 iiH'iin wlial I sjiy ; that in vour first statement here to the committee vou use<| expressions with n-tjard to this statement of mine, that the greater Jiart of It was a pure work of imagination, and it was not true, nnd oi. a sulise(|iient occasiou, when arising to sjienk, you referrernie done from your slaiidiHiint, it Mill liaM- vour wav and I lin>e not mine. I have no wii iimwes If we rmiie to that |Niiiit where we have a ■■onteii tion on |Miiiils of thai descriptioii, you will have tn allow me lo have witnesses als nlile lo give, I diil liojie woulil olivinte nny omtention it that description, and lathi'r liring ulsiut n stale in wlii< li we will Im- alile I lie to a inutuni un would rnllicr )|o on and end up with a Pentecimin lilessiiiiK ilian this lonteiitioii, and it was on tluit line ilmi I was trying to prepare my whol.i stiUenient Hut if n comes III the way of proif that these things are so, and I am put u|s>n my |>iisif to say that they are not and tli.ii my side is riuht, I shall have to ask for even longer tun. nnd other witnesses, and other diH.'umunts. I did hop' that that would hardly Ih' necessary. .Mr. Aikins It seems to me extpif(pre the Hisirtl. That it one question to I. considered. I'liK CiiMHMAV Hrother .\ikins will reinemlsT tlii> tliat was I'onsidcrisl and carriisl pretty well through wli. i »f said wi' were pri'|Nirllled that issue. .Mil. .\lKiNs I ipiite agree with that. That one llun.' is Is'l'ore the Hoard. Now so far as Dr. Kliy's case is in cerned, I do not know in w hiit as|H-ct he comes Is-forc i| . Ihsiril, or what we are aski-d to |>nss u|Kin as a Ho.nl rcs|s'ctiiig him There is no ap|H'al. All weknow is iln . Dr. Kl>y sent in his resignation, I presume of his own ii>" will, anil that resignation was ncceptisl. Now wlint i~ '" U- ilone alsiiit that '. There is the end of that liusin, -. according lo inv vii-w of the iMuse. TiiK I'll MKMW Thnt is on the Hoard's side of it. li Dr. Khy has anythin;; to say, we will hear him. Mr. .\ikinh (*n what is Dr. Kliy going to s|ll ill till' HillllK |Niiiliiin ; lull liiit illK npKilt HI! iiiiioli liiiiK ill t)ii«, if my y'" ri«". It wan Iri.i', in iinini of fin't, lii< i'i.|, itinl lliit riMi)(unti<)ii WHS itt'i-.'|iii'i|. 'riiiM'i' itrt< twci lii'ii-f luttnrit iif llin ti> llio (IniiiTiil Sii'ifliry which hmn I'liiiii' In my iiihlt-; 1)11", I Im'Ui'vi', iixi.-i'ixmu II chwiiK ilukt |||.| n.^iunn tiitii nIiiiuIiI Im> i-iiiiri-IU'il, III' III- Im' |H>i'liiilli'il III nithili'iiw It ; mill tliK ol.lii'r liiw I'l'fi't'i'iii'i' III hi* ■'iii|iliiviii«iii iliiriiiK iIh- I'lirri'iil ytxir, »ii tlml hy tlnoto Ictti'Vi, wlicii iMimiiiu fiiiiii.illy iM'fiiri' thin ('ummitt if th" Whulc, m- Ix-fuic till' Koiinl, till' i|iii|ui'iiitiiit. iktul liitvK tiiriii'il ii|i nil till' (.iiliU> Mil. .M.M'l.MiKN I think llii< wuy iii wiiii-li the iintlli'r li.K Ih'i'Ii pill liy Mr. AikitiH 11 ihi- coinTt iiiiiv Wi- i>iiii ^.1 liiii'k iiiin Mt<-p furlhi'r, in nnliM- In fully iippn'riut" ilu' -.iiiiiitinii NO fur iiH i'i>){iiriN |ir. KIty, itml il is ilni. ilmt |ii r.liy HKiit ri'ipii'.iU In till- Hminl 11 ynir iiKn for rrrliiiii -nimi • it' iiiniicy fnr tlm wnrk, «itli llii< iiilimulinii ihiit if tl'iiw siiiiM t-niiiil lint III' ){riiiitt iliil lint think it wiis in thi< niii'K'Hiii nf tlin MiHtinii lliiit hi> shniilil riMiiiiln in 'I'likyn Till' lliuii'il II yo'ir ii)(n w;ih mil iiIiIk tn nnnplv with l>r. I!li\ H i'iii|Ui>Ht fnr fiiinU. .Vflrr Ihiit ili-cisum win I'linn- tn, III' Kliy, I think, Hi>iit in his n-siijii itinn ami ii wuh III •I'pti'd liy tlm Kxi'i'illivii ('nnmiiltt'i'. Thiil i» llm (iiHiliiiii III III itti'rn sn far IIM it hI^miI up tn thr liilK' nf thi> I'l'i'iMpt lit lliiwi' li'ttors. TliiHi' liMti'rs ii'l'i'rri'il In liy Ih' .SiiiIiit liiiil nnw iiiity iHM'liiipi >'hHin{i< tin- piHilimi snnii'ulnit, iiml It tliiit Im> the pniitinii I think tlml is whrri' l>r. Kliy -.limijil Ntart. It is ill iini< with tlin i'i' shnrt antwiir wiiulil Ih< iIiIn l>r. Kliy mull- I'KipiiMl fnr innni'yK whii'll llli> II1.111I I'niilil lint i(ivi> linn, ami iiitiiiiati'il it was nn use fni' him In iiMiiain Ihi'i'i' iiiili'ss llics" wmn KiviMi 'I'liK IliianI cnnM mit ){ivi- it ami III' pri'smiliid his n-Hinnal inn, whirli was mi'iipii'i!. 'I'lmt wiiiiM Ih> a onmploti' an^wi'i' tn tlii> Lnmliiii ( 'nnlVniiii' Imt fur this iii'W matter. If hi'. Kliy wislms tn cill up tlnKi' li'iliTs, an upnn tln'in a I'l'ipii'st In lii' sent nut i.'un, wliv r Hiip|MHii timt it a mnv matter which mii;lil I mil' lii>fni'i< the llnaril, ami I think that is the nnly piae t: ll ipietttinil that shnulil cnmii ln'1'nii' us I'll. KiiV —Ah a miller nf fact I think this stalemenl nf I'l Mmlareil's wnlllil have In he enri'eiMeil liefnie I wniild Is' .ilile In aeeopt it, iilmul my semliiii; in a ilmument last VI' u' mill a desire fnr eertnin inniieys. Till''. Cli.^lUMAN l>r. Miu'lareii did imt nay a dneiiineiit. Mil Maclaiikn An upplieatinii eiiiiie with an iiitima- tiiiii. I'll. KllV —I do not rememlM'r anylhiiiK nf thai kind. Tlieie is an iiitiniation Iheie, liiil it was a private ein ul.ir tlml I sent t.n the liivlhreii in >liip;in, and Dr. Maidniiald Kent line nf these prIvaU' eiieulars nut tn the Itn.inl, iml f never hmil|i{llt it l«'fni'e the llnanl, Ihi. IliiKidB -Kxoiise me saying aimther wmd, hut I tliiiik 1 see that there is a inii^ piiK-ess ahead nf us, wliiih will take ipiile a leiiKtIi of lime, ami will dnulilless lessen the iiiiiiiImt nf iiiemlx'rs of the Hnard here At niie nf the Kxecutive moetiiiKH l>r. Kliy waspii'sent, and l>r llyikman, an inlhii'iitial nuMiilM'r nf that llnani, said In Dr. Khy, "Nnw what wi'nii){ is there I Can ynii tell ill What injiisliee has 1 11 exereisedl We i»ii< heri< In leelify any wrniiij. Wr are here tn tnkp away, if il he pnssihle, any injustiee," Now, insteiul of uoiu]' inin all tliese matters, many of them tiiiii essential, omiUl not Hnmeihiiix like lliat iMMliuie I Let us kiinw snmethiiit; that liiis l»'en hnrniiitf into the sniilsnf tlii'si' hiethren under which liiey have lieen sulVeriiitf, nnt aiiswiriii>{ this lonK doeumeni, this review or slatemriit, item li\ item, wliioh in many |«iiiits is not essential in the way 1 if falling for an answer, hut let us have snmelhinv' thiit will toll me oh a inomlier of tlm Hoard and K.xeenlive why these brethren ar«i so ostiunged, and in their fiH'liii({s no aiitikKiiniiitie to thi* itilininiittrtition. What hurnliix wmii){ IS llii'tef If (hiwi twn or thnii* thiiiKs enuld \m )(i\eli. instead nf U<»HH thmu|{ll the priM-eiM of n enuft hen', It wniili! Datinly im- iH'tler Dh I'^iiv Is this tn Im' puliliNhiiil I 'I'lIK ClIAIIIMkN It nUKht lo Im<. I>ll. KliY If sn, then we nhilll Imvn t4i tr»v«rw It; if nnt hell', then ill piililie. Dii. l(\iKMtN There is sntiiethin)( mom thitn hiu h Im? (hitie I I am in trniilili' just nn this pninl. Dr. Khy is nnt iks lit, physi- cally, tn gii nil with thit statement as he wiiuld have been twn nr llirci' days ago, and it appears to me he will bo less and less tit day iifieiday. Ukv Mil. kKiri.i'iwi'.i.i. — I was going to move this reiio- I 111 inn, That we defer this matter until the afternnnn session. l{i;v. Dii. St "riii':iit..\Nii That was Mr. Chisliolui's Hint inn. lU'.y. .Mil. Kl■;'^Tt.^;^v^■l.l, 'Plien 1 will second it. Mil. Cvs-tliv 1 said a iiinmeiit ago that I was not quite piepan'd In gn nn. There were snme pnints towards the end which 1 wished tn n'* lew that were delicat*; points. I dn lint wish tn run .iny risk as tn what I shall say nr niiiit. If ynii will take thai into cnnsideratiun I could go nil I'nr a while this mnrniiig. \\k\. Mil. llfKsris If this mailer is to l«- thoroughly sifted mil, and all this dnciiment is tn he n-viewwl, it is i|iiile evident that it will nnt be done this week. Then might we not face that ditliculty I 1 do not hee anything fnr it. if it is to be investigated, other than for this Board n 110 (lENERAL HOARD O*^ MISSIONS. 1H))5. Ut iidjuurii imd iiKaree i-eaclied lietween Ur. Kby and Me. Civ^sidy (Miieerning the review of this document, U'cause it might Ix^ jx)8sible for Mr. CaHsidy to Cfime in and take it u]> seriatim, and review the whole document, and then when l>r. Eby comes on to s. I will submit the motion that we rise and refwirt. (Motion is put anil lost.) The motion :s that Brother ('a.ssidy lie callefoie the Itiuinl. but it is capable of shadings and side light.s, ami our tlioiii-hts may be mmlitied somewhat by the fuller statements made liy these brethren. I trust that tin voting on the main motion will lie laid over. Mil. (JiRNKi — \\'elia\e other evidence i' the room, »- it has Is'en stateil this morning, that throws light upon the whole i|iieHtion. We have the whole Japan (luestiiu; U'fore us. although we ha\e onlv taken up a section. W have the ladies here who can give us inftirmation. .Messr- Cassidy and Kby are not the only js-ople in sight. Tin- thing can be taken up without any intention of reaching: an immtshale vote. I shall not ciuisenl to vote until I have heard the last thing that can be said. I iinih i stand that Mrs. I^irge is here, and other people who :if familiar Mitli the facts re^jarding things in .lapan, and I hope that we are not going on indefinitely, without lieariiu from soinelKHiy besides .Mes.M-s. Kby anil Cassidy. Tbei' stat4'inents. if they have any to make, can come in at aii\ time as well as now. If they are not pre|)ared, let is ■;. on with llw evidence ilial is hei-e and that is preparinl t.' s[ieak. TiiK CiiAlliMAS The motion is to take the main niotiiiii from the table. (Put ami earriiil.) .Mil. .\iKiNs I now move that Mr. Cassidy Ist heani m reference to the six missionaries in ilaiian. Rev. .Mil. Bkits Was not this action taken with tli. view of giving Brother tJassidy a ehani^* to complete hi review of the diM'ument I Thr Ciiamlman -Not at all. Now the question liefon us is the recall of the six missionaries. If Hrother Cassiii\ PROCEEDINaS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 117 lotion for thi* sav wlii'thi'i 1 to risH Hill I I' niaiii iiidlioii lia8 anything to guy about that, this motion will give him the opportunity. Mu. OuRNitY — We are in a position to hear anything, ami consider the (lueation. 1 hia docs not moan a voto. It means that if there is anylxxiy hore, Mr. Cassidy oi- aiiyliody «lne, who can throw any liglit on the six misHioiinries, let them come forward. Ukv. Mk. Ciiibiiolm— I Htill pros.s the point of onler, and would like the answer direct from the (!hair. The point of order is this, that the resolution pinviouslviiasHtMi, the point Iwing raised by Brother Kettlewell, wius'tliat we should postpone the taking of the vut«- on the main motion until Dr. Eby and Mr. Ua-nsidy were heard. The commits lee hivs now calle say unless you have i|URstion8 to ask. If you have any i|ueslioiis you would like to ask me, I would lie very li ippy to answer, to the best of my ability ; otherwises I liav it, from his own point of view, that may be one thing. 1 would like to ask him through you. Mk. CassIDV — f do not feel that I have a responsibility nu that line. It is a very grave responsibility, I know, but t do not feel as though I liiwi any right to express an opinion. If there is anyiliing in whic'b I can throw light upim the subject I will be glad to do it. 1 do not know that there is. I have not studied their cliHjumeiits through, and the only question with you is, what position you are placed in. If there is nothing else for you to do, I could notadviseyoutodoanytliingel.se, so that 1 ciiinolgive anv advice on the question. Ukv. Mr. IIt'K.STI8 - Sup|K>se this i-ouiniiltee should rise, and that we should decide upon the recall of those six men, Mr. Cassidy is a returned missionary from .Japan, lie must of necessity be familiar with all the ciri'umslances tliat have led U|> to this present issue, and I would like to itsk what his opinion would Imi, as a minister and as a nienilicr of this (Jhiirch, outside of the Bo.ird allogether, .11.(1 whether he would think that by this .utioii it would provoke any agitation or any ronlroveny .Now it seems I" me that he, as a miiiisU'r and a iiiember of this Chiircli, and as a fritmd of this SiKiiety, living in .lapan, and famil 1 u- with all these circumstances, ought to give us the bene tit of his judgment and of his iiiforination. If he knows of anv reason why we, with this responsibility resting upon ^l^ sliouhl not recall these men. hr ought to take us into liis confidence and tell us what that reason is, or if then- ^ire any such re isons. I do not like t'lat Mr. t'assiiiy -liould hesiUU' to do this. He say.; here, uneipiivoeally and distinctly, I know of no r«"ason why tho.y should not hi' recalleil. Mil. (Jahhiijv — No. I say I simply li:ive nothing l^isiig -est, I do not feel that I can. If I looked through this leti<.r 1 might gee as you do; in fact I do .see as you do If I were in your isisitioii, tln're is nothing tilse I eould do; but Brother Hiiestis has rai.sad, there should have been a Umdeney to seek for conciliation, to seek for conference, to seek for brotherly consultation from the beginning. I was in hopes when I beard that their resignation had come tliat I would have been called to the Mission Booms, or called by the General Superin- tendent, or someliody, and that this thing would have been talked over; that as a witness who knew something about things in Japan, Dr. Gby and myself, and perhaps Mr. Sauiiby and Dr. Cochran would have been called for a consultation right away, and as much light as possible would have been thrown on the matter at once, and some steps taken towards a reconciliation. I was in hopes, too, that when the committee came together, and documents were prepared to be sent out, that they would have been of a different tone from what they were. They were too self- defensive. Excuse me now for criticizing, because I am put where I am. They were so diplomatic. Instead of saying, •' hretlireii, we do trust you. You have our confidence, (io on, and we will sustain you," there was a good deal of smoothing things down, with a subttsrraneous admission all the way through that they had not your confidence, and nothing would bring out the facts until the plough was driven deeper and de<;per, until it has ufiturned this docu- ment. With this document produced by Dr. Hutherland, I do not see what else you could do but recall the men. Rkv. Dk. SiitiierlaND — -You do not mean the one pro- duced by met Mii. Cassiuv -lam now referring to the one produced by you, with all these things. If all these things are true, if the (louiicil itself is a mistake, if we are to be made responsible for the Band and all its michinrry, if the mis- sionaries now in the field, including myself, are to l)e dis- counted because wi: have all had souiething to do with Dr. Kby —and some have the idea, as one aged brother wrote in the (Inanlian lately, that Dr. Kby was a sort of head of the Ojiinoil, that we were following liis lead, and that we were all discounted in the eyes of the people here, being recalled. I hope this work will go to the bottom now, and that whoever is put in that Mission will begin where no- body will say, "This fellow is a Band man, and this fellow is an Eliy man, and this one discounted for this, and that one for that" I only regret that steps were not taken first thit would have led to the laying of a foundation that would have avoided the present crisis. 1 think, as things are now, the only step to bu taken is to recall the men. I do felan8 until they raine within denouiinational lines. Onie they were taken up by the Board, then as a servant of the I'.oard it was my duty to undertake my share of tesponsihility, and try to early them on ; but 1 never was under suili inlliience as is sug- gested. But to brand these men as all being a lot of wild- headed fellows who ran out there at l)r, Kby s <-all. and then had to gather into the Jlission when their o» ii sehenie faded, has always been unfair, and an unjust impiitatioM upon the men, and so far as this crisis to-day is niiule up of material of tliat kind, it is an injustici' to the men and a great mistake. If the Board Imd gone on and paid no attention to the Band, simfily looked tipon these mi n as Metlnxlist ministers who, l)y some means or other, found their way into Japati, and dealt with tin in as such, we would have lieen saved a good ileal of trouble Hkv. Dk. Sl'TllKULANU — Precisely what the lioard did do. Mr. Cassidy -I hope you will not think I have said ton much, but you have asked me what I would say, and 1 have said it. Mk. Aikins — I would like to ask Mr. Cassidy a few questions. You havi' refi rred to distinotioi.s between Hand uien and I'jby Uien, and other distinctions Keiween mission- aries. D(K-s that obtain in Japan, or do you refer simply to the distil. ctions here. Mk. Cassidv — Well, it is very strongly marked in a letter here by Mr. llimiwa. It does not obtiiin anywhere else. 1 never heard of myself being chis.>.ed with men under Dr. Eliy's influence before. How he got that irto his head 1 do not know ; I was nevi r regarded so in ■lapan, liecause there was never anybody moie free lo ciiiicize Dr. Eby's plans than I was. Mr. Aikins— Are disiinctioim existing in tiie minds of Methodists in .iapan relating to the. iUnd men and Eby men 1 Mu. Cassidv — I have not the slightest idea that there are. Ml. AlKlNS — Then you speak only from that letter of Mr. liiraiwa 1 Mk. CASSinv — 'I'hat is the only place in wliicli it lia.s been sent home here. Mr. Lamiii.v— liul diM'H it exist thenW Mr. ('amsidv — I do not think so. Of course when 1 was in the Mission, up to three years .igo, Dr. t.'oc hian was ihi'ie, and nearly all the lime I was there .Mr. Sai.nbv and Mr. Whiltington were there These were the stn-nirth of the .Mi>;sion. These new men were coining in : .Me.s.>.|s. t.'nimin\, Mackenzie and Dunlop. Well, a puiii- soul from anything of the kind could not have li\ei| tli.iM Mr. Duiil.ip. When these men lieg.in to come in, as long ,is we were then-, they were always in the minority; there ciuld not be more loyal and true men. They fell in with us thoroughly ; there was not the least taint of any peculiarity from tlu'ir havinu Is-en Kand niiii or having gone out under Dr. Kby. Tln'ie was not the sliglitest taint of anything of the kind. Amongst these younger men there w;i.s .i tenileiicy to misuiiilerstand Dr. M.icdonalil's position. I am free to .uliiiit that as the oldei- men dis appeared from the .Mission there was an increasing tin- dency to inisundei stand i>r. Macdomild s |K)siiion. We couUl see that. I knew it ; I felt il. .And lienee some of what has come alxiut has been a natural growth with the disj|p|M^arar.ce of the older men. There has been a little along that line that has always needed sonic e.vplanaiion. Kor instance, when the men were on their wav to China, the charter members ot ihiCliina .Mission, some of lliein said to me, " Wiaild you please tdl us what is l>r, .M.ic donalds relation to the .Mission (' Vou sci>, one going in there and si'eing him so luisi'y engaged at his praitice, and h.irdly h.aviii!; time to speak lo iliem. would niLlniiilly thiuk that he was simply a uicdicul pruclilioiier in the foreign seed'on of Tokyo, and would not understand it, I explained the |sisitiun to them well. 1 have never heard from ihein since; not a word of eni|uiiy or a remark in regard lo the ijuestioii. I siippiise I satisfied their minds. Often oulsideis would .say, "Has Dr. Maedonald any relation to >our Mission yet, or is he simply practising for hiinselt I" \\e have always explained these things. Jtiit }ou can .see, as men living away out further fro had ! Mr. Cassidv — There was a serifs of coriespondence. It was very severe, and I fancy that he and Mr. Dunio]) iit'tiTwards got together and settled the whoh^ thing, and liiirned their correspondence. I think they did Mk. A1KIN.S — But the feeling still continued ! .^Dl. Cassidv — Not that 1 know of. I heard .Mr. Dunlop ■ |)c.ik very kindly of Dr. .Macdonald after that. .Mil. A1KIN.S— But, generally, in respect to his being an ollii'ial head ? Mil. Cassidv— I knew nothing of antas^onisin when I left beyond the pretty general feelinj; anion;,' the nmn that |tr. Macdonald, as a man now entiri.ly nc upied in secular business, was not the sort of man to lead us on and give IIS inspiration for evangelistic work ; that he had not the time to give to it. .Mk. Aikins— That feeling appears to have been shared by yourself as well us by tli'^se other missionaries ( .Mk. Cassidv — It was always shared in l)y myself, but there was so much good about Dr. Macilonald, and he was such au honorable :iiid honored man anu)llg^t us, that my advice to them was, let it lie for the time. It is ii defect in our Mission. It would be a gr<'at deal better if we had a man with all his good qualities, and a live evangelist at the same time ; but still he is sn well trusted at home, and has his position so well estal)iislied, we had lietter let that alone until the end of his term, because he ^ays he is not going to continue with us more than this mission term any way. That was my position. .Mk. A1KIN8 — No V as between the six missionaries, are they united? Are they working sympathetically together ! Mk. Cassidv — So far as I know, there is not the slight- est jar between them. .Mr. Aikins — The only .jar is between themselves and |ir. Macdonald ? Mk. Cassidv — Yes. Mn. .ViKlNS Is there any .jar tietweeii the six mission- aries and the Woman's (JouiioU f Mil. Cassidv — Well, 1 do not think their documents !• ne any room for doubt on that score. Mu. Aikins — Then you conliini wh.it has been stated III tiie documents that there is a jar between tlii'iii .' .Mr. Cassidv -Why, certainly; I do not dispute their lii'i'uments. Mil. Aikins — They are not working in sympathy ii'jjetlier with the Woman's Mission Oiuiicil ! Mil. Casmiih — It seems not. They say that themselves. .Mk. Aikins — Have you any reason to believe that the feeling expressed in the documents that have been given to I lie Heard by thesa six missiinaries contiiun-s to the present tune ( Mil. Cassidv — I have no indication that they are at all .iliated. Mil. Aikins -That is to say. that there is also a want of -viii|)ithy existing between these six missionaries and the rAe.utivel Mk. Cassidv — And the Woman's Missionary Society I Mil. A1KI.V8— No, no ; but the Executive of the General Missionary Society. The Chairman — The Mission Uoonis at Toronto. •Mk. Cassidv— That is a different subject. Ho far as I know, their feelings have not changed. I have heard nothing. The latest I have seen is this official letter. Mil. Aikins — You object to the letter written by the Kxecutive to the six missionares? Can you specify any part of it in which you particularly object, and to which you think they could take objection f Mu. Cassidv — Well, I would require to refer to il. Mh. Aikins— Certainly, refer to it. I wish to know exactly. Hkv. Mr. Chihiioi„u — Is that letter publi'..iieu m Dr. Sutherland's review 1 Mk. Cahsidy — No. Mr. (Jur.nkv —While Mr. Cassidy is getting ready I would suggest that anyone who had any questions to ask might put them in writing ami let them go through Mr, Aikins, as long as we have got started somewhere. Mr. Aikins — I think each one had better ask his own (luestions. Mr. Cassidv — You asked what I object to in thisi Mk. Aikins — In what respect do you lind fault with itl Mr. Cassidv —What I object to mostly is what is not in it. We read all through it and we do not find anything to reassure these brethren. Ms. Maclarrs — -What do you mean by reassure them 1 Mr. C.vssidv — That is giving them a frank statement, iliat whatever the Secretary said implying they were not trusted, and they were not men that you believed were suitable men there, you did not agree with; that you really trusted them. Mr. Maci.aren — That is not what the Secretary said. If we tiiought they were injudicious, ao you think we should have said they were judicious ? Mr. Cassidv — No. .Mr. Aikins— What you object t"> is that the men were not assured, as we did not repudiate the statements of Dr, Sutherland. Is that it ? Mk Cassidv — The Board did not repudiate the state- ments of Dr. Sutherland ; the Board did not give them an assurance, without touching Dr. Sutherland's statements. If a distinct assurance had been given them that there was no need of their being disturbed, that they had the conlidence of the Board, and that they were men who were thoroughly trusted and esteemed by this Board, I should have no manner of sympathy with their going any further with the contention. Ukv. Dk. Potts— Do no'' you think that the closing part of the communication from the Executive goes in that direction — when we ca'ae to exhortation) (Mr. Cassidy then read the last paragraph referred to.) Mr. Aikins — Il»ading that, Mr. Cassidy, do you think they could reasonably look for any stronger expression of conlidence than that it was wished that they should con- tinue in their work ? Mk. Cassidy — Well, perhaps I do not understand it. Ukv. Dr Potts -That is hardly a satisfactory answer. Mr. Ma<^i.auun — Be serious. Mr. Cassidv — T am serious. Ukv. Dr. Rvckman — Is it the desire of these lawyers to get the witness to say what they want him to say, or is it an attempt to get Brother Cassidy to say what is in his own mind, and 111 his own way, instead of just putting it as these men want him to put it ? Mr. Aikins--As far as I am concerned, I do not think Dr. Hyckman can say I am asking for anything of that kind. I d'l not think that charge can be made against me. What I really want are the facts, , .. Mr. CJassidv — That is all right. ' Mr. Mai'Laken — So far as any expression I used is con- cerned I did not think Brother Cassidy was really speaking his whole mind in using the words that would seem to con- vey the impression thai he did not understand that language. The answer was open to that interpretation. I do no": think Brother Cassidy would wish to say that he did not understand it. Hkv. Mk. Ciiisiiolm -Is it fair to designate the mem- bers of this Bimrd as " these lawyers " ? Mr. Cox — I think the matter ought to be left to Mr. Cassidy and Mr. Aikins until they get through, and then any other pereon can ask what questions they wish. 120 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1895. Thk Chairman — I think that is tho sense of thn Hoard, ami for onu the Chair is thankful to God that wc ha\e Uken of Ifgal aeunieii on the Moard. Ukv. Mr. UjiTTB— After ail it strikes nie as just a little in the wrong light when one nienilier says to another — a Diinister who is ^ivin){ his teKtiinon^ here, who is K'^ii'S >^ with a Kreat deal of ciindor— Are )ou landid 1 H<" serious. Mr. Casbiuv— I said |ierlia|iB I do not understand it. Let uie say this now. When I rend that myself it was a very puzzling sort of para^raph. It seemed to convey the idea that the Board or the Executive wished those men to be exhorted to loyalty, and yet there is breathing within it and Iwtweeti the lines a reproof to them (hat is of a very sharp character I was present when this was dis- cussed, and Dr. Macluren himself remarked that if the nien could not read the reproof that was therein contained, it would I* a great reflection upon their aliility, or some- thing to that etl'ect. It is well keen that while there is a good tone in it, there is a great reproof in the part wiiere they are exhorted to tiike it for granted that the lioanl and Executive and all partiis did what they meiint, nnd did what they intended to do. VVIiitt does thiitniean? That we intended to do what wo have done, so yon have no husini SM to raise any <|uestion. Mil. M.\CLAREN' — With regard to a personal explanation I think Urother Cassidy does not reniendier ctirreitly what took place. The question was whether anything more should l>e said with regard to impressing upon these 'ireth- ren the duty of mutual conlideiice, and I think the language used was, that those brethrin would understand the meaning of the unanimity of these Tariou-i liodieM : that the brethren would see the point of that without using any more pointed language, and without putting in any re[iroof, Mr. 1'A8.sii)V — Yes, and oim' gentleman wlios.' name I could give if necessary, who is not here, stood up nnd said he was not satistied with the document, because there ought to be a rebuke in it. Mr. Maclaken— And 1 thought there should not be. Thk Chairman — And the Hoard would not put it in. Mr. Cassuiv— Dr. Macluren said if the men I'ould not see enough in this it would be a great relleition on tlnir ability. That shows how just the Hoard were ; they were determined to keep out their rebuke .itkI reproof. You put me on my opinion, and then you . ritici/.e me for my opinion. Thk Chaikmax— Exactly, Brnther. That is where we nre. Mr. Ca.ssidv — You get my opinion and then criticize it. My opinion is that the whole document is too diplomntio ; that it would have been a good de.il Ix'tter if we bad I>r. Carnnm write out one of his good, strong, lovin;; letters, in which he would have mixed authority and love together, and put an end to it at once. Mr. Aikins— Do I understand, Mr. Oassidy, that you think the Hoard had not e.\pressed its authority strongly enough toward those six missioii.uies '/ Mk. CASSiDV^VVhile they h;ive expressed tlieir authority strongly enough, I would like that you hiid put in enough to show the men that you had mndileiice, and not argue it, in this leyal fashion and cover it up and put in a little of the u'ood, as Dr. Maclareii says, to make it go down easy. Mti. Aikins — Have you any reason to sufipose that tliese men are not sincere in re(|uestiiig to be recalled ? Mr. ('assii)V--I have no reason whatever The [irivale letters that have come all abmg lia\e been just of this tone. I could show you one I have here somewhere Unit would be very suitable at the present juncture ; but 1 will only refer to it. " We do not know what is before us W'e are in th" hands of I'rovidence. We expect likely we will be recalled, but we are in the hands of Providence. We have done what we believed we should do, and whatever Providence has in store for us we are ready for " Hkv. I)h. T. ti. Williams Allow meioask Mr. Cassidy, with refireuce to his understaiidiiiK of this mattir which "is under discussion at tie' present time, I)e the same as the view which he would now entertain of that same document, after having heard this expression of the desire not to rebuke the bretliren in the work) Mr. Cashidy — You notice that I did not say that I took the same view that they took in writing their reply ; but I am not aware that my presence in the coiiimilteo and what I have he.itrd has made any dill'erence, because I have l>een aware all the time of the kindly feeling of the Hoard. I have nevir had any other impression. Simply in the method of dealing with the matter. iMi. T. (i. Williams — Is it Hrother Cassidy's opinion (because he is compelled to give opinions here by the ques tions of the Hoard) that if the brethren in Japan wen- aware of the real heart of the Executive Committee — the throiibings of heart— would they have understood the F^xei utive's deliverance as they have done, and would they probabl\ have written such a letter as is before us in print here today ! What is your impression on that point? Mil. Ca.ssIIiy — Well, when I read tliat letter I was greatly disappointed ; I was greatly pained. I felt sorry that they put in a ^(mkI many things they did. I could not help feeling that the view they had Ukken of it was not the most fortunate. I'll. T.-li. Williams — I understand Hrother Cassidy to say that it is his opinion that if the brethren in Japan really understood the purport of that Executive's deliver ance, and knew the kind feelings in the hearts of the Executive tow.ird them, they would not have given a deliverance such as we have had from them 1 Is that your meaning ? Mil. Cassidy — If you ask my opinion on that, I do not think they would have given such a deliverance, but that they would hive accepted the propositions to (hem I er8onal correspondence with thcM six iiii:i8ionaries1 .Mil. Camsidv Well, of course 1 do not desire to sav anything. I w,i^ just goiii".: to refer to the otlicial stal.- inent that c-aine tioni the .Mission Rooms to show that tli. matter of these nn n having gone out in a s|>ecial way lia^ been oHicially notiied to their disadvantage, and it hi"- been well known. -Mil. AlKiNH — How (dlicially noticed? Mil. CissiuY — In the olliciiil statement from the Mission Hooms. TiiR CiiAiRsiAN—How would that accrue to their di^ iidvantoge I PROCEEDINGS RE JAI'AN AFFAIRS. 121 Db. Sutukrland— Read the part that contains that HinteinPiit. Mk. Casbidv rends from oflicini Htntpmciit puhli^l|pd in (he tt'i.ariliati ot K«lirunry Gtli, {H'J'i : "AttliH iiit'tliiig of Iht) MisHionitry Executive, held on Jiinuarv 'JOth, a coiinid- rration of Japan nfl'iiirs occupied nearly thi( whole setaion. The letter re<|ue8tinK recall whs siKiied, iif, already stated, !iy six missionaries, namely, Klier C'runimy, John (1. JJiin- li)p, D. U. McKenzie, \Vm. Klliolt, H. H. Contes and John II. McArthur. It may bo remarked that five of these wore not sent out by the Missionary Hoard, hut went as nioinbers of the Self-support Band, organized hy llev. Dr. Khy. Subsequently some of thein were taken into the regular work to supply vacancies, and the others were taken after the Self-support Hand dissolved." I)K. SuTiiERLASU— Where is the disaU vantage to them ill that remark ) Mb. Oabbidv — Then what is the remark made toal What has that to do with the case? I)k. SuTllEULANn— 1 asked a question. I asked what is there in that quotation that is to the disadvantage of the missionaries? Mk. CASHinv — Well, it has been said, We never sent these men out anyway. They were not the choice of this I'loard. They were men who were outside. They were stranded in the tield and taken in and given work, and we never sent them out. Hence the implication is that they lire men who have not the right to raise (jiiestinns of this kind : they have not the right to the same consideration as others have, and they are very well treated, considering llie kind of men they are. Dr. Sothkrlasu— All that you have stated, with the exception of that word " stranded," is simple matter of t'ut and can be taken in perfect coiitiih'iice as astuteinent III fact that nobody can cliall'Mige or controvert. Hut the whole of the inference that you and they have chosen to draw from it is purely gratuitous. Mil. AlKINS — I propose to ask a few more qiiestioiis, :ind they will lie very few if 1 am not interrupted, (^m- sidering the strained lelaiions which have exi'.ted between lliose six missionaries and i>r. Macdonald. do you supjiose iliat they could work easily and without any friction, sup- posing they were continued in that work and I >r. .Mac- iloiiald retained still as the otHcial head of the Missionary .Siu-iety there? .Mil. CA».sniV— Well, of course, I could hardly judge of that case. If I were on the held now I would judge lirtter of their feelings, but I have had very little com niiiiiication on that line, in fact on ar.y line, for a length of time, very much less than perhaps might be supposed. -Mk. AlKINS — Supposing you were out there and one of the men, do you think you could work without any iirita- ti III or friction, or as easily as if these strained relations Inid not existed ? TilK CUAIHMAN — Would you work with l>r. Macdonald? Mil. <"assii)V — I certainly would; never failed to work with Dr. .Macdonald. Hf.W Mu. KuTTLEWKLL — If you were one of the men is the question? .Mh. CassIDV- I never failed to work with Dr. Maidoii- :iiil as long as there was no side issue. I never had any ililliculty in working with him, and he is a man who is most conciliatory in his manner. He is a gentleman in every sense, and hence if there is any dilliculty, and it is OHIO adjusted, you will hear nothing furtlu'r ot it. Ukv. Mr. Ciiisiioi.M— -Ho would make a good (iener.il Si'crelary. Mu. Cassidy — We are not looking for a (ieneral Si'cretary M'l. AlKINS — You would not underlako to speak in that ivs|i,.ot of the six missionaries out then- as to whi'ther they '.mid »ry xeliliini. Tliey SReni to feel as though they ought to have Moinnoun who repre- sents their fu«lings, and who would wriut fully and freely alonft the line on which they think,'iind along the line on which their missionary ambitions run. The Chairman — What is the dilKoulty when their own documents come to the Board — tlioir own pxprnssions 1 Hm there ever been the interruption of one of their words t Has any word that they wautt^d to send been interrupted? Ur. Macdonitid may have expivssed an opinion. Mb. Oabsidt — I do not say that them has. I never ac- cused you of that. The Ciiairhan — Then why is not the nvichiue running well, when every word those deiir bnthrt-n have written comes to the Hoard ) Is that their dilhculty ! Mb. Cassidv — No ; it is not a suppression of their com- munioations ; I have never accused anyone of that. Rkv. Db. Potts — Do you think the rarreapondence is colored in any way by the opinions of the man who com- municatee his view on economical lines. He runs a good deal in that way. They often feel «s though very few of us were getting the liingUHge. We are very weak in the use of the language, and that wo ought to get out men and give them an oppor.anity at the language. Dr. Macdvmald's policy rather is to Kvt men and put them to work, and make tlii'oi do the very linest work from the li-'ginning, with the least possible exp< nse, and the result is that wp have not very m^iny men who are well up in the language; very few. And the feeling of the men seemed to l>e, in regard to the nunilier of men, thai we ought to have more than we have. l»i, Macdonald seems to feel a great deal of sympathy for thi'srunity of the funds, and thinks that we ought not to have more than we have, and he rather repreM.sed' their ambitions in those lines ; a numlier of little things in this lint^ : but I do not think there is anything along that line that would lie a hindrance to their harmonious operations if there were not any side issues coming in. TiiK Ciiaibman— What do you mean by side issues? Dithculties with the Woman's Society? Is that what you mean by side issues 7 Mb. Cassiuv -Yes, that is the chief side issue. Rbv. Dr. iSliTIlKliLANn Might I ask a <|ue»tion touch- ing something said a while ago. I do it because the matter is referred to in my Review, and we want to have all the light we can. It should !>•■ borne in mind that in my statement I have never anywhere used the term "dis- loyalty." The strongest thing I have said is that the memliers of the .Self support Hand were out of Kvnipathy with Dr. Macdonald and the Hoard on c'-rtiiin lines, and the point I want to fici nt is this: Those numbers of die Self-support Hand « ho came into the Oouncil, werf Ihey in sympathy with Dr. ICIiv's plans, say with regard to the Taliernacle and so on 7 Mr. Cahsidv — I think that as long as they were outside of our Miuion and looked at the Talienmcle from a little distance, they saw it in a diirercnt linht from that in which they saw it in after they entered the Mission. I think that any of them, when they came into the .Mission and went through a few sessions of thi- Council, heard the discussion of what the liaancial position of the Tabernacle was and saw the wealc side as well as the strong side, and saw how often wu had to curtail expeniins and corrttct what was a little out of the straight line, — as they saw these things they sei-med to have just as conservative a view on those lines as those in the (jouncil before. Dr. Sotiibhlamd — In that case how do you account for the fact that their resolutions in the Council, and right up almost to the present, have been strongly in support of Dr. Eby's position and requests, if they were not in sympathy with him any more ? Mit. Cassidv— You might soy the same of myself. Db. Sothbrland —Were they, as a matter of fact, in sympathy with Dr. Kby when they came irito the Council? Mb. Cassidv — Dli yes ; in sympathy with all. Dk. SfTiiKBLANii--Whatever time they came into the Council, were they in sympathy with Dr. Macdonald's attitude, say with regard to the Tabernacle? Mr. Cassidv— I do not think they knew his attitude until they came in. Dli. HtiTiiKBLAND — They have expressed themselves pretty plainly, and their action shows most conclusively thiit they did not sympathize with his attitude in that niiitter. .\ln. Cassidv — Then you can say that of myself. Diu SuTitKRLA.ND — Then, went they in sympathy with Dr. Macdonald's altitude towards the Woiiir.ii's Oouncil and the work of the Woman's Society ? Mu. Cassidv — Oh, I think they were not. Dk. Hutu EUI.AND— Then, were they in sympathy with the action of the home authorities, the Board and Executive, as indicated in the communicat'ons and resolu- tions sent out in regard to any of these matters, the Taber'iade, or the Woaian's Council, or Dr. Macdonald, us the case might lie? Mb Ca8.sidy — Well, of course, in regard to Dr. Eby's Tabernacle, the only case I remember was that in which the expenses for his work were cut off. They were not in sympathy with that , that is, with the cut'ing of it olf. Dr. .Siitiikkland— That and a number of other things, as shown by their resolutions and the correspondence. Mil, Cassidv — In regard to the other questions, I do not know that we have hod any communication from the Hoard with v hich to l>c in sympathy or not. Dii. Hi'TiiKRi.AND 1 do not wish in the slightest degree to spring a trap, or anything of that kind. I will 8|)eak just frankly what is the drift of these questions. It seems, from the information in the Review, proof is abuiuhint and positive that these missionaries who were in the Melf-support Band were strongly in sympathy with Dr. Kliy and his plans ; they were not in sympathy with Dr. Macilonald and his attitude on various questions ; they were not in sympathy with the Home Hoard in its decisions up^in several questions. It appears to be l)eyon, is excellt.nt ; but the only qucHlion ii ihiit otIiHr, whether there are {lointB in wliii;h lliey would guy, If the Board dues so and so, we cannot iigreii to it ; if you call that dibloyaliy, 1 do not know whether there are such points or not. I do not say there are not. lU.v. Dli. SuTHKMLAND— I waH trying to get liffht upon this qui'Stion, whether we were correct in our inference from thfir actions, and the corrmpondenie and rcHolutiiins in this conneolion, that they were not only out of Hyinpathy with Dr. Macdonald, the Uoard, the Secretary, and the Woman's Council, but they were strongly antajroniatio to the line of policy which the Board approved. That is the point. If we can get light there I would be very glad to have it. .Mb. Casbidy— I do not think «o. I think the only tiling I could say along that line is that they are nnibitious to move on, press on the work ; and thii line of policy — that is rather too indefinite to suy where they do or do not agree wiih it. I do not know of anything in the g'-neral line of [K.lii'y that they attack. I'llK ClIAlKMAN — The policy of the Board seems to bo to work its missions within its financial ability. Mil. Cabhidy — My own idea is, that if these men were assured, if tliey felt how warmly this Board loves them and trusts them, and they were assured there was no bar held up ngainst them because of their being Band men, and licnig considered radical and disloyal • The ClIAlKMAN — We do not know anything of those divisions or dist nctions. 1!kv. Dr HuniGKLAND — There is a point that ought to be cleared up there. Why do these men think that they liiive not the confidence of the Board, nor the wiirni and iillrctionate regard of the Board i In this last letter which his come it appears to nie they say very plainly that the reasons for their conclusions are statementH that have been sell'., out to th)-m from this couiilry, and they speak of liiiving these things on high authority, and good authority ; tliiiiifs that we know, as matter of fact, are not so. Mk. Cassidv — Well, of course I am not responsible for timt. All I can say is that they have nothing of that kind on my authority. Uii. SuTllKKLANI) — But they state it in so many words; in one place they mention both your name and Dr. Eliy's HS the sources of information. Mk. Casbidy — Yes, tliey do, and along with that comes a idler front one of them in which he snyN, " If I am not correct alK>ut this, please correct me," which shows jilaiiily lie has not my letter to show that he is correct, and he speaks with a good deal of doubt as to whether he reniem- hers correctly how he got this impression. Ukv. Mn. CllisiioLM — On page 10 they decline that they lie:ird what passed in the Kxecutive. tin page l(i we have it put hero that " Dr. Potts was obliged to remind the (iiMcral Huperintendent," etc. .Mk. Casbidy - All I can say is that they never heard that from me. 1 cannot say any more. iMi. HnTliKRLAND — The question is, from whom did tlicy hear it? TiiK Chairman — Brother Cassidy says he did not do it. That ends it there, for tlip present. liKv. Mb. ClliaiioLM -We accept that fully. Ukv. Mr. IIukstib — There was a matter referred to by linither Cassidy, in answer to a question proposed by Mr. .\ikiiis. As I understood him, there were only t«o of llie iiii'ii now in Japan who are situated where the agents of the Woiiiae's Missionary Society are »orkii:g. Mil. CassihY— There are two in close pioxiniity as to their residence. But they have no rela'ion to their work. Mil. HuKSTiB — As I understand, he answered the c|iiesiioii that they were not on the same .Mission, tint it is (inssihle that the agents of the Wmiian's Missionary ^'iieiety might be in tliat locality, working on independent lilies, out of the jurisdiction of the (ieneial Missionary Siiciely. .Mil. Ma(;i.arkn — Oh no. The lady missionaries do not j!i) iiiiywhcM! outside of our Missiims. .Mil. Cabhidv — What I meant by that was that in school work, for instance, we have no possible relation to each otlier. We have nothing to do with their school work They manage it entirely. We have no relation to it what- ever, any more than you would have here with the nian- ageniei't of any school in the city. And even though we happen to be living near where that school work is going on, we have nothing to do with it. Mu. HoKHTis — Htill, you would meet their agents. Mil. Casbidy ~ t'eriainly. There ought to no be mission- tries there who cannot speak to one another. Mr. IIimHTiB — Then these strained relations would not disturb your social relations so that it would become apparent to the general public 1 Mr. Casbidy — Certainly not. I do not think anyone ought to be there who would allow any strained relations to take that shape. Mr. HukSTiB— Then you say the principal side issue is the difficulty between the two Societies. 1 would like to ask you to give us a case in which you cr any of the six men consider they had cause to complain, Mil. Cassidy — Will you defer that question a moment until I say a wonl in regard to a point raised yesterday by lir. .Maclareii, because 1 want to be very careful on this point i Dr. Maclaren asked a »iuestion to draw out infor- mation as to what relation I had to the action of the nieu in Japan, whether 1 knew of their going to elect a new Cliairmnn, and to forth. Mil Maoi.aren — It was not I that asked that question. Mil. t'AMSlDY — What was your (luestion '/ Mr. Maclarkn— I do not remember what the point was. It was another point. I asked you whether you hud any com iiiunications, and you said you wrote to one niemiier only; and I asked whether probably the other niemWrs did not get that. I remember somebody else asked ii question, but my point was about your sending information on the point you have Just mentioned. Mr. t.'AHSiDY — That is what we were speaking about. Mr. Maoi.ahen- It was somebody else asked that ques- tion you have just now referred to. Mil. Cassidv — Then you ask if I had given the decision which took place in the Ilaniilton Board I Mr. Maolarkn — Whether you had sent out to Japan the thing you felt hurt or oflended at in the action at Hamilton / Mil. Cassidv - There is a point I wanted to mention. I made a statement I want to qualify by this little omission, and not to have a time with my conscience over it after- wards. I was asked whether I had any knowledge of the fact they were going to (deol another Chairman. I recalled, after I had gone home, one remark that came in a letter. It was raised by the question of the Shizuoka church aD'air, where Dr. Macdonald suggests a trial of his case under the head of maladministration. One of the men in writing me something about that atl'air, over which there was a good deal more agitation than there need have been, simply remarked that Dr. Macdonald was anxious for me to have a trial here over it ; but, he says, there will be no trial over it, unless there is a trial by ballot. That is the only reference I have to it. I just wished to mention that, so that I would not have stated more than was accurately the truth. Dr. HfTiiKRLAND— In regard to Dr. Macdonald, I unriersloud it to be said here this morning that perhsps for some time anions; tlu; members of the Council there wivs A feeling of dissatisfuetion with the fact that Dr. Macdonald was gi\ ing his time to medical practice, and that it was felt as something in the air ; that the time was coining when probably there would have to be a change on that account. The point is this : If such was the feeling of the members of the Council, how was it that on two separate occasions, at least, tliey strongly endorsed the work that he was doing, expressed their entire satisfaction with it and with the disposition he was making of the funds? That is, how did they come to do that if they felt that his devotion to medi- cal work was so serious an objection to his holding the position he did '/ Mu. Cassidy — Well, from the time he returned in 1888 to Japan, he gave himself entirely to medicine, and he put himself ill an attitude towards us which was very kindly mid conciliatory, and yet wi^ felt as though he was rather sensitive on that line. Friquently we heard indications that he was not very well satisfied to be in that position, lit GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1895 *nd lb«t he thought of withdrawing from thn Mtuioii, and «o forth ; and we could alwiiys lay at any time tliitt his medical work aa inch was Kaiiit'aetoiy, and oiirliiinly liis diipoiition of llis fundi wiu lii)(lily no, Ijii.niusk Ik- wi>rked hard night and day, a pHrfoct hUvh to all, and all that hi^ could make and sav» out of it w<< knew lin wnx putlitiK into the work in nne sliapn or another, no that it was dint to him tu make thosi* tixpreiiioni. While that pxppKHtion wa« not uied of others, the vury fact tint it was uxml frmn year to year allowed that there was a little ni'cd of hui'Ii an expreHion, a little need of the aHsuraiiee to lilm tliut hii work was auceptalile. Db. Sutiikri.and— I will say fnuikly why 1 mn trying to get light upon this point. It him Hi'einrd to nii' from the whole enrreHpoiidente, an all tlie factH liav(> Ronit- out about Dr. Maitdoniild, that tint olijfction to liini on aecouut of his medical practice was purely an afterthou^jlit. Mr. Oassidv — Oil no, no. Dn. HuTHKRi.AND-Tliat it did not enter into their thoughts in the earlier stage at all, U'oause I I'lio find no trace of it anywliere ; nothing to lead nut to liuliHve that they hud a fe«ling of that kiml ; Init it euinex out after- wards, at a much later stu^e, when it seemed to be necessary, perhaps, to l>rin<; it out as a rensoii for a certain course of action ; ami that therefore it was an afterthought, and not one of the original causes of dis- satisfaction. Mb. Cassidy — Not at all. If it were not for the hi){h estimate we had of Dr. Macdon^ld, yearn ago it would have come out. Mr. Ht:K«Ti8 — I have asked a i|Ui'»tion. Mk. Cassidy — Might 1 ask that that cpieation be post- poned until 1 deai with that part of the ilocninent t Mk. Huestis — The ijuestion is to give it oa.so where he or any agent of the ISoard had cause to roiiii>lniii of the Woman's Missionary Society or its nij'nt'*. Would you be prepared now to give us your view of how and why dilticulties arose between the agents of this Society and the agents of the Woman's Missionary Society I on what points those ditficnlties anise ( wliether they rose on |M'r- sonal grounds, or whether they rose on othcial and dis- ciplinary grounds 'I Mr. Oassiky -I would !«■ obliged, l«!fore you adjonrn, if you will give me a set of distini't ipieslions on that line in writing, and let me go and think them ovrr and com- pare them with this document, so that 1 may try .o give you car,-osal was to open work in the city of Nagano, if that is the place referred to. Dr. Sutiiirlano -That is tho one. Mk. (/Vvnsidv- That came up shortly after the ladies had made a reply in regard to the question of o|ieiiing work in Iloni^o in conjiinotion with I)r. Kby's work, and their reply was on tinanoial grounds that they had not the means to open work there. That is my recollection of it Then, a very short time afterwards, the proposal came to open work at Nagano, which showed that it was not exactly the ipiestlon of means, but a question of judgment, or com parative importance at any rate, and hence, I suppose, Mr Dutilop tiH)k that view. Whether he had • consultation about it I do not know, that if they had not means to open work at llongo, where there was a pressing request sent in to them, aiiJ iiiiinediately they proceeded to consider the opening of work at Nagano,-it was an admission they had iii(>aiis for some purpose, at any rate, and his position w.is simply a temporary aoceptunce of the position they had taken ; but very soon afterwards, if I am correctly informed, an invitati.iii was sent to them to Ofien work at Nagano ; so that so far as losing an opportunity wa^ concerned I do not think it is so. Dr. StTiiKiii-ANi> -It is better that we have the fact^ correctly put. The ladies did not see their way to iln aiivthing more at tli't TalM-rnacle than they had been doing, carried on in the same line. There had been a reipiest or a desire for a lady missionary at Nagano, but llieii .Mr. I'unlop said, "If they won't send one to the TalH^rnacle they shall not send one to Nagano," and that interrupted the negotiations for a time. [.,ater on, there came a request from Mr. Dunlop for a lady to go tu Nagano, but in the lueantiine the money ^hat had lieen availaiile for Nagano was no longer available, had gone in another direution, and so they could not respond at that (late to his request. Mu. Masideiit of theilapan Conferend', — you would not admit anything on that score 1 Mr. Cassidi - No. Kkv. Mr. II t'KsTis- -Wherein does Dr. Macdonald dillir from other medical missionaries, such as we have sent '<< Western (!hina, for example? Wherein does he differ from a medical missionary 1 Mil. Cassiiiy- U-t nie give an illustration in reply to Mr. Maclureii's (piestion, which will show the position m regard to that. Dr. Macdonald is always under high pre-. sure as a professional man. lie moves aa a profosaionii man all the lime, and a.s a medical professional iiiiii Kven at the session of Conference ho always accepts tli" chair on conditiim that it Ihi admitted that he is not t ' occupy it any more than he has time to give to it, ainl sonietimes he dims not occu|iy the chair more than half < i tie session of (Vinterence. The last session I was there li ■ was, by virtue of his office, ('hairman of the .Statioiin _• Coiniiiiltee. lie did not sit for the stationing of one sinu ' man. He had a substitute in the chair on the Stationn.^ Committee from beginning to end. As Chairman of il'' District, while he is very active, and the brethren lia.c great contideiice in him and can all come to him, we a 1 feel that a Chairman who would have time to give in attention to the Rii|ierintendence of the District, ami otiicial duties of this kind, would make a very great dill' r eiice in the work. Now do not let me be understood i-i discrediting Dr. Macdonald, but you have asked the qui i- tion. Mr. Maclarkn— I understand that the medical praciire that is complained of is principally among foreigiic:!^. -.,aia#i«>""'->- '*>'-...■- '>.'-r* ,T.iiV r<,»>».inii«.^,«iu. PROCKEI)!N0S /iA,' JAPAN AFFAIIIH. 125 How would you ut'oouiit for tlie fact that hli income from iiii'ilioHl wiureei (luring tliH pitNt y<>ar ii only 9250) .Mb, Cahbikv— I am Rnkwl liow do 1 account fur the fact iliitt hi* income woi only 9'-M. |)R. HuTiiKHLAND- -That iH, if his praotion among for- I'l^nt'iii ii n« large na r«|Mirti'd. Mil. Maci.aiikn — If liH is hucIi an active, liuay man, Uivin)( hia wholo time, if it wan only for the piml ^ car jliHO mill other ycari at the niaxiniiini of i^dUO, or tlicrcHlKiiitii/ Mlt. Cahsidv Ai to tlio ((rent ai'tiiity iiml Hio lii>(li liri'SHure under which he works ox a profraglonal man, there IS no doul)t aliout it ; fvi'ryliody kniiwH it. lie ia iiiuler great pruHanre all thn tinir, iinil d(|iii>iitin){ nii inv(titi)(Hliiiii m to iithII fmni .iMpitii. 'I'liia liv. Or. Miiodoimlil, (Utt-d Auj(UHt 7tli, IHU.1, riiul ill ill ri'I'itri'iiiT to llio lnri{« I'Hti main* lliikt citnin from tin* MJHiiioii Couiii'il A yi'ir uxo, P<x|iliiiMiii){ why thoHo litr|{r(iittiiiiiitcHoikinii to lii> loiiili* tli'tt p:trtiuiilikr ynur. (Ri'ferred to tin- (.'oiiinntl.*iir«>now in (\iiiiniitti<«of llii' Wlioli- Itrfoi'ii diiincr wn w<>ri> >|ni">liomtii( ltrollit>r OitiMiily. It wa« prKKiiiiiiMl tlint iinoii'diiili'ly i»ttt>r diiinpr, or on >{oiii'^ into ooniinitli*!' iiijiiiii, wi> would |ii'riii|m li>-iir l*r. (NH-liriiii. Tliitt simmikmI to 1m' tliii ^(Mii'i'.il ini|irt'!iHion, lU tin' Clmir giitliori-d it. If I Mill lni^llll lorrci'li'd. Il llr. ('oi'liriiii will |{lv« ua any iiit'oriinition In- iniiy have l»>Hnni; on thin i|tii>.«lioii, till' ri'i'itll of tin* hix iiiiHuioniirii'H, uc would Im> (il)lij{i'd. I Hii|i|io.v tliJit will l«i clicitvd iiy i|in■'. I'lH'lirnn i* witli im and will li" iv.iily, I pri-miinc, on call. ]■* thorn any nit'm'oi'r M. Coi'llKAN Yis ; I saw gonip of tho lieninnini's of tlioso troulilos. 1 mi!r. Kliy, and iharn aroae what I ln>lioto HI have lieon a sou roe of trouble, a bias -I will oall it hy that nai.«~-of feelin;{ that |)r, Maodonald was not as heartily in sympathy with our evaii}(o|isliu work as they ihouifht ho ouKht to Im. And this IihI in some do)(re.' to thai analysis of Ids work wli'cli aooontuated the inedieal features, and did not take aooount, as I think, atitlleionilv of those ovaiiijelistio features uonnectod with tho work of a medical missionary that f liolievo should have boon taken vciount of. and that entered into the whnle makeup of his work as an (Kent of the Society in Japan There came a drawing apart of judgment, aiel an iinlai{oni/.inK of views, anil ho there came this ditreroiii'>' of fooling that has liecome so iinforluiiate. Now win n llii'so yinii( moil onleioii into the Mission they were accepte' sented their romonstranci' in that form, for it came to no' as a conviiMion that this reipiest for recall was rather a U'st and a remonstraiico than a desire to leave the .Mission, because I have this doo[) conviction, that each one of ili" five, whom ! know, has a real, true missionary heart Thai is my iiidymont from my inlercoinse with them, mv knoulod^o of them : and that it oould not lie with iIm' desire to leave the .Mission, that I hoy were seeking to yet away from the tield, thiit they should pro.sont this reipie.si It vi'as also -if I may mention what came to me as a matter of information, without giving the names of any it was also intimated to mo by meniliers of other iiiission- in .lapan that it was smiething of a surprise that these young men should ask to Is- recalled ; and the wonder was, wliat reason there could be for such aclioii. I have been surprised ami grieved that the brethren in Japan did not see iho communications sent by the Kxecutive in a ddlerent li«lil. and with a diHeront fooling to that whi. ii prevailed among them. My judgineiu is that they ounlit to have felt that they were not discredited, and that tlie\ did not lack tho sympathy and oonlidence of the Mission ary Society, and that tliey ought to have come into com niuiiication with the Executive and the Hoaid w,th a ver\ .^Mr** -r^ "«W^ PROCKKDINUS HF. .lAI'AN AKKAlllS, 127 (lifritront iplrit tn tlint wliiuli thi'y hav«i mitiiifnitml in tint two coiniiiuiiiviition* tliat I Inivn li«Ard from tliPin in r<>tily til tlin ooiiliiiuiiioMtioiiii nf (liii lliiniil. Now, I tliiiil< I iiUKlit to I'lkimti lifin iiiid wiiit fur iiny i|Uir. (Joctimh, tliui tli.Ti- ih nnythinK in tlm pri-jnilicx Huiiinit l)r. Mut'ilmmlil »,» ln'iiil of th)< Miminn in \'\r.m of hii. intolical woilc I WIntt ii yonr (ipinmn n)iout ilutl I l>R. CiiriiKAN My opiiiiiin iiliont tlnit Ih tlwit IIiith ih Mil ri'»ional>lH )(ronno yxn think tlio oxprm-Kinn uiii'tl ulKiiit |)r. Mii(tlonnlil liciim cntirily i)icn|iic>il in snular liuninfiii, iind K*^'<>>( liiiiiKcllf ontircly lo nit'iliiinr, would fiiirly dj'wrilm |)r, Miuiloimld h work up to tlio time you left Japlkll I Dli. (loi'ilKAM -It dni'i not. If that whh a conception of liiii Work it wiiH a niiMconcrptinn, aH I Inivtt M'ln liiH work and nndiTntaiid it, and ih >i iniHi'i pri'senlalion of l>r Miinlnnnlil'H work. A Mkhiikh IIoi'h |i« prracli any 1 |)i(. CocilliAN ill) doi>H no! priini'li in ,)iipAii(>!<<>, Hiid hai not pri'aL'JKMl for a liuii; liino in KiikHhIi. 'I'liat III- dof-H not pri'Roli dom not in tlio li-uHt discount Dr. Mac;- ilonald iiH an vvunKnliHlic worker in tliiit country. I can ^ivu you my riMiNOiiN and at ll'l>^lll if yon wish. My icu- Hiiu« are tlii'S' : Dr. .Maiilonald, up to u I'crlain time I hat ha« linen Htali'd in tiic pi-cHince of thix Hoiti-d, did do tho work of a preacher as well an of .i in<>dii»l pructilioner. When lin relumed from IiIh IuhI furloui(h, he diil not taken half of his time. Dr. Macdonald had also, as u medical missionary, a certain amount of work lliat re(|uired a j{ood deal of tilin- lie was the medical lelviser ill coiinc lion with our Mission, lie a'teiuhil the faiiiillPH of the missionaries in Tokyo, and Hoinetimes went out into the coiintiy. lie attended the two schools, th« hoys' school and the girls' .sdiool in Tokyo, himI this reipiired a ureal deal of his time. All this was (lone, not as a medical priKlitioner simply, hut as a man wliiKO heart was missionary, whose interest was in our work, who was seekini; to Imild up our work, and in every way helpiiiK it with his counsel, with his ave that wisely and judiciously, aa the Council fell, to linilil up the work in dillir nt directions. And takinjj the whole of Dr. Macdonald's work into ac- count, his whole soul was in our work ; while tlir iuj;h Ih" cliannel of liis ined'cal practice, and through the channel of his husiiicKS en);aj,'<''neiils for us, he was lahorins? diy hy day. Now, tim fact that he did not «'> ahout and preach ill our churchei Hctriict* nnthinjj, I think, from Dr. .Mac- donald's HVHnHidlsliu lalKiri, or (mm hii vlmmntnr m an (•NaiiK'diiit, when you take the other innlteri into Mccount, ll)' idea, he was Willi us in our (.'ouncil niHntini/|ii, and I iniiai, assure you we did a ureat deal of (TiMinvil ItUkineM, whether wisely or unwisely ; wit had frHijunnt inretiiiKH, and loiiK niietiiiKs, and protracted discussions, anil iionsideration of matters all'eclinjf our work in e\ery direction, and hnnon every feature and phase of our work, pvanKdliiitio and otherwise, ciiine coiisiantly under It's atlinition, and Id* whole atleiilinn had lo he ((iven lo it in order that wa iiii|{lit have the set vicn of liiii host JuilKuient, and lie gavtt his atleniion freely and earnemlv. Dii. I'o'ITs How do the other Missionii in Japan rfi|(ard Dr. .Maciliinald as the head of our Mission f Kow duel he stand with the I'lesliyteriaii, Methodist Kpisuopal, and other .Missions there I Dii. CoriiiiAN I do not know that I qiiiln underitand the ipieslion. I understaml it, and yet tlioru in a phaan of it that I do not i|uilc understand. Dh. I'ottm Do yon think lie is disconntiid by the othflr Missi.i s liecHuse he is a medical missionary, or lieoauae III' does not do more evanuelistic work ! Dii. t^irnii an Not at all. Mil lli'wriH - The ipiestion is asked, Doe* Dr. Mao- donahl preach I Now lit me ask. Do thn men who are appoinicd to the eilucational iiislitutionH, ! cannot name them here ('rummy and Mc.Vrthur — do they pr«ach rc/jiilarly ! Dii. (!ooiihan -Ye», they preach. I preached when I was connected with the eilHcatiiinal work. All our men connecicd with the ediiciilional inititutiona preach and lecture a uood deal, all that they have opportunity anil time to do. Those who cannot use the JapnimQ lainjua);c take the help of an interpreter, and others have their soi'inons tiaiislatcd and written, and read tliein, and any who are alilc lo speak in the vernacular do so. Ail the men cii;;ai;;<'d in the iilucatioiial work preach. Mil diiisiioi.M Dr. Cochrun slnteil that he thought the yonnn men did wroni( in discrediliiif; the Hoard. Dli CoriiitAN Did I say that? Mil. Clllsiiiil.M -Yes. Dii. Cni'iliiAN I think I did not say that. Would tho reporter kindly yive my words I I think I did not lay that the youn;{ ineii in llie lield discredited the lioard. Dli. Si Tiiniil.wn -I did not catch it so. Mil. Cilisiioi.M -I so understood it. Dii. (Joi'iiiia.n -Well, that was a iniiundergtanding, 1 think, Itrollicr. .Mn. (.'iilsiioi.M That they lost cnniidence in the Mission Itoard ; thai they did wroiia in coining to the conclusion they did with repaid to Iheir action. Dii. CnriiiiAN (111, that the young men did wrong in comiin; to Ihe conclusion that the .MiRsionary Society had not conrnlcnce in tin ni. Yes, I think they did wrong in that. I do not ihinl; lliat the MisHionary Society, the K\icntive and the Hoard, have ever taken any attitude towards the Mission or the youni; men yonder that would give them the impiession that lliey were diHcr^dited. Mn. ('iilsiioi.M Would you give us your opinion freely as to what led the voiin^ men to reach that conclusion] What inlliiemc was lirought to hear upon them 1 Dit. CiaiiiiAN ■ I can throw boine light upon it. I do not know (hat I can clear it up. This is perhaps what starled it. During the (iencral ('oiiference tlicro were cirlain deliatis icgarding the tla|ian work. These delmteg were |iul>liKhcd in the secular papers, and in the (luariUan ; copied frnm other secular papers into the (,'unrdiait. These copies or reports of the dehales found their way to .lapan and were copii d into the Japan Mnil and .lapan (.' »*k fur n rrrnU, >»imI th«t timy wjirn ili* crwiitril Ity tliit llotril. I clu iidt ttiiiik I citit glv« you ■ay (urthxr Infiiriiiikiioii tlmii lli'it |>ixt now. l»il SlJTIIKKi.ANK -Miulit I ii'-k lliu : Mi»v<« yoil llt<«ril or nixl ilmt mM'tioii of my ittHUniixiit r<*f»rriiix ttly w<>ll. I *a% li)>r>i wIiimi It win rcail. Dh Hi tiikhi.«nii ltd yon cciiiitiiii'r tliitt a fiiirdiittiiiPiit nf faoti Willi ri i-liiiritoti-r tlutt li« niniiitniiiH in ihr prmiRiicn of lilt pcoplH ill tliii llriiMit who Icnow liiiii I)k. Hutiikhi.aNO -TliKn ymi ilo imt roinnilxr tliat in •nythiuK 1 Intva exii){t(i'i'iitiMl or iiii«itatH ilKTKrBiit matter Imirlii;; n|Miii iiiiotlu-r I'oiiil, tlic lintt tiiiix tlml you ri'turni'd from .lii|mn. Would you U- ){oimI eiioii;(li to mate to flm Hdiird lirii-ily tlic ciivunutiiiu'c* liow you eaniH lioiiin tlio lirnt tini)' from Japan I |tK. (NitiiiiAN -Tlint it iu 1m;i» I liR. Hi:tiikiii,ami YfH. Juiit stutn liricfly the circuiii- itaiu'i-H of your coiiiinu. Tlmt will lie followed liy Biioilirr quration or two to liriii); li^lit upr point wn hnvi- to coiiRidrr. Mh. Ma<'|,aiiK!i —My inipn-nsion ia that aftrr wp arc thruui;h with Dr. Miiodomild, if tliiTe Iw no other mnterial avalliilili-, wi< .should dicido iw to ihoHe nix liit'ii Ixt'oir we go into N0iii(< other lininch. I>K. St'TiiKiii.AM) 'I'lieii I call rvMrve the quMtion aa to Dr. Miiodoniild. Mil. .MArLAliKN — That quention may lie piTtinent. It may liear upon the teciill of those aix men. I ilo not wIhIi to chec-k iiiiylhiin;. Dr .Maoix youiis; men. Mk. Ni.Viin -I would like to ank Dr. Corhran one (pica, tion in conneL'tioii with Dr. .Macilonald and the nieetiii;;a of the Mia^ion (.'ouiioil. Tin- Dortor liaa told ua lliut tiny had very iiiiiiiy iiiei tinifK, and that lliey had his eoiinael at thnge nieetinua. Waa iie alile to att4>iid very rii'ijuently tlioae ineetiiiga I Db. ('oi'iiUAN Ho waa very rarely ahaent. Me waa often preaent for a time. If our diaeusHiona were lonn he aaked ua to abbreviate, liut he waa with us always. .More than nine oaaea out of t>'ii. Dr. 8rriiKKi.AMi -I find tlmt 110 m(>etiii;;a of the Council and its Kxocutive were held in tive years, and that Dr. Macdonald waaaKaeiil, \ think, only on one occaaion, in addition to the tune he wa.s Hlmeiit when he n"sii;ned the iirat time. Dii. TovBLt — T wnulil like to ask Dr. Cochran thia quea- tion : In Dr. .Macdonald'a ijeiieral iiii*e* ; that that |«riiaelii, anil then were men appointed In take charge of it, and there wa. lack of money to run it. It waa like putting a liuaine..< ealiililiahiiienl aoniewhere, putting ill eniphiyeea, and n . money to pay for the ai^lieiiie and certain other Ihinga thai were redy elae Ih it waa there, for he knew our liinilatioii*. 'I liat ia a frari' and full atnteiiient of all I know aUi it it. .Mh. .M 'i'|.\iikn I would like to aak whelher the feeiirr:; that exiate'l in ihe iiiiod* of iheae lirethren alxml D> .Macdonald heiiig prejudiced agiiiiiat the TalHirnacle wm k anil the secnl'ir i haracler of Ida profeaaion, ita ihey con Kidere.l, interfering with It, whether you think that appln .1 to other parts of the work bealdea the TalH>riiacle. !>li CiMiiKAN No. I think they could not think that It applieil to other parta of llie work, for he alwat manifested a iiioat earneat aympathy with the exienaioii i^l the n.irk lliMugh the country, taking our limitationa int> account. For inalance, when it witi* thought deairalde l>y th. Council, and aeemed to lie favored l>y the .Miasion.ir\ Secretary when he waa with ua, that we ahould go acro~ the ialanil and take up work in Kana/awa, Dr Macdoiml i requealeil licit inyaelf an I Mr, .Saunliy ahould go out aii'l view that section of the country and liriiig in a report to ihe I'ouni'il IU to whether it would lie adtiaahle to exten I oiir work thitlier. We did ao The work waa extende.l It was largely Dr. .Macdonald'a aiiggef.tidli. That ia, ii eioanateil from him, aa far aa the action taken, ai the hemi of tin- < 'ouiicil. .Mil. .Maclaiikn -Do you think that the fe< ling that i evidently ahareil liy these Itrelhreii, that the nieiln ,i feature of I »r. .M nd'Miald'a Work parlii'ularly diaqualili' him from lieiiig our repie«Miiaine and agent in Japari. i. ahired liy others outside of the circle of theae aix liretliiin ' Dk. I'oriimN I never heard it B|Mikeii of liy - ynii mean other mIsNionaries of ether aixrietieal .Mil .M >ri..\HKN -In the tirat place, ia It ahared hy orn own jieojile, do you think, out''le these six lirethren J Dh. I'liriiKVN -Well, It is ...rwl by Dr. Kliy an. I, aa I understand it, by .Mr. (.'i.iaidy. Mil. .MAri.ARliv .Vnd oulKido of that, do you know i any others who have that opinion t Dii. I'oriiHW We have no olhen. .Mk. .Mai'laukn -Do the Japanese I Dk. CiMiiiiAy -No They think the present nioilc •■: adiiiinislration ia adiniralile. .Mil. .Maii.aiikn Then how with the repreaentativea oi other .Miaaionary Hocietiea, or the general public, Ih' foreign population that are not connected with ai.. Soi'icty t Do you think our Mission sutFera in that couiiln on account of having a representative and agent in tli .' way, a medical man like Dr. .Macdonald? 1)11. Cm iiiiAN So far as I have heard any expreaaion, or know the mind of anyone, our .Miaaion ia regarded i^ fortunate in having Juat such a man aa Dr. .Macdonal.l m the position that he occupies, and that his medical practii' dix'8 not in any way detract from Ilia rcpn'sentative ch n acter and thorough elBciency in the iliseharge of the dull., of hia otlice. .Mk. -Maci.ahkn -How many of theae aix brethren ...n speak etl'ectivcly in public -extemporary ipenking m Japanese 1 Dk. CociiHAN-Ono of them, Mr. Dunlop, is perh ipi the best Kpeaker of the vernacular amongst foreigners \u Japan ; one of the best. Mk. .Mai'i.akk.s — Mr. Casaidy haa very good cominami of the language I Dii. CocnuAN- ft would Iki very hard to tliid tic superior of Mr. Dunlop a» a public speaker and preach- 1. FR(M;KKIHN(m UN JAPAN AFKAIRa lt9 liitiidliiiK tlut litiigiu||« with iwrfKi't (Miilily. Ila can do II lidtt.T tliitii Mr. l.Viiily, Mr. Citmlily l» iirewiit u, hritr iiif, IIiiiukIi Mr. Oiuwjily iliH'aii wkII, niiil l»>tlt iiiakii i>xiHiu|ii| III thkt ockuiitry hy »ll h I ■aioiiKrii'*. Mh. <'HlaHi>LM Tho llotnl o«rt«inly niiut fral Kr»t«ful III Dr. (7iHihrkli for thii i:l«iir itml Uit-iil itnawtira kImiii In ilii'tH i)ilfiatliiiia. Wiiiilil lliii Oiiolitr fi'til fi'i>i< tii xlvii u» till Holutiiiii III th<> tlilht'tilty t |iH. ('iiniium I wuh I ouuhl tolva thn ililHaulty, or Im'I|i towitriU it. .Mm. (IiiiitiioLM -W» woiihl )••• ph'ftMKi tii himr it. |)H, Hhiuiih Wiia |)t'. .Miii'iIiiiimM I'riiRiihiiit uf ihii I .iiit'i'rniir)! iliiriiiK yiiur tiiiin I |)u. CiiDiiiiAN llti WAV l'i'iiHiih*'y.\'\ l»H. Cmilu.vN No, I Ittft jiitt liiifori' thi< ('onfiirt'tii'r of I >!i;i. |l|i. T. (!. Wii.i.iAM* III tlim O'liiiilry tlin Prraiili'iil of I < '.iiifi-riMioi liiia iiiiiiiii'tikiil iliilii'i til prrt'iiiiii, or lliry urn I v|iin'ti'd of liiiii ut i«i»«t, liiMwifii till' inli'i'Viila of ('uiirrr 1 ii'ii, wlint we iiii)(lit oull ii7 inlfiim iluM>*« Now I wmilil likf to ii»k hr. ('oi'lirim it' tliii aiini' tlilti){ in i>\|iiM'loii of til I'rcitidpiit of Ii Ciiiifi'iriiro III ilit|iitii 111 iN i>x|ii'i'ii'ii of liiiii httri', ill tliK wiiy of nlli'Miliii^ i liiui'li iiniiivoniitrii'a, ili'ilioHtioiiH, rco|ii'iiiiii{H, unit auoli (hiii^a t l>l(. ('ui'llllAN Vra, thn HiiiiK illllli'a, Kliil llic wrvii'i'N art! »i>U;iirliiK ihi* yi'iun of Mr. Miip iliin.tlil'ii pn'aiilt'iicy, iliii hi' iiitiMiil to mii'li iliitiin* as tlinaf ( 1 1|(. Coi'llllAS -llii iliil iiri'iiHioiinlly, iiml wlii'ii hi' ili'l not attonil to thiMii liiiiiHi'lf lio ili'iiutcil ntlii'ri* of ua to I iki> liiH placp. I'll. T. (S. WiLLIAMH -Taliiiiit it for Knuiti'd hi' iliil not I" il'iirin ihi'Bi' iliitii'H to aa full itii I'xtriit aa ia pi'i>\ali-nt in till' hiMiiii ('oiif«i'i'iii'("4, ran yon ai'ronnt for it that |)i' M ii'ilonald wan iiji'di'd to tin' pri'aiiii'iilial I'linir no iniiny Mars in auifiwmiion ! (!i\i' ua your vii-wa why hn wna il.'cli'il to till- chair if in' was nut alilo to |M'rfiinii all llii- ■ Iniii's of a I'ri'siilrlit t Jlli. CiiCMHAN I ih> not know how far I am anrr till' iiii'mliiTH of till' MisKion Cininril votcil for his I'lrrlion ll' till' I'hair of thn ('onfniuui'f, Imt I know that h<' al«a\H "■■lit in with a vrry lur^'t' iiiajonty. Of rnnrai', llir .lapiiiii'»i' I 111 wiled uil thnrti. 'I'liny an' liuni'ly ill thi' iimjority, anil < iithou^'h all till' liiiaaionarii'H hiid voti'd against him, ihr .1 ip.'iiii'HK wflrii Hullii'icnl in luimhi'i'N to plain him in tin' I liiir I'Vcrv tinin. I ncvir lanvaasnil thn voIi'h or minln iiissi'lf acquuiiitnd with who voli'd for him or who iliil mil. Thiir .vnr 1' liiiiia. ■Mil OlilHiioLM— SeeiiiK that flm aiimwa of war, no I' -pnak, the tinannHH, nonm fiom tho l)ii;iiiiiion of llamulii, iiii.l iiwitifi; to the vinwa which am (^niinially nntnrtaiiind .Mill ii'Karil to what a iiiiasioiiiiry oUKlit to Im, do yon think II 1^ wise for the Hoard to continun Dr. Maodonald iva a iiii'iliial inisaionary I 9 Dh Cm IIHAM I do I lielinve that hn rnnden elll. iniit aerviuH to our niiiaionary faiiiilie* there, to our two Inr^n iiiiiaion auhiaila. aa well a« to iiativna and torniunen, and til" .Miaainimry lliar'! wniild do well in knepiuK Dr, Ma'donalil as a iiimli al inivaioiiHry to rnitder even thU aervii", if Im voilld not prnanli at all. Dii. SirilKiiLAMli I wonld like to MJI Attention to thia point Ai ini(arda Dr .Mardonaliri piHltioii aa IVeiti- dent of the .lapaii *'oiifnreiii«', wi< naiinot touch that. Th«l ia a matter in thn hanilH of the lirnthmn out them, thn Jiipani an and foii'iKunra. Tlm ipieatioii fur iia ia, whether Ilia Work nn a nindical man in aiiv way intnrfnrea with hil dutiea aa nprnannlativn of this Moanl in 'lapaii Thaotbar ipinatloii tlm .lupannae iiiual anttle Dii. r I a Willi \Ma .Mlow ma in aak, if wa denliiin to ai'i'i'pt the raipinat of thnae hrethren for recall and nontinue tliniii Ihnie, and thn other nrraiiKi'iimiita of thn Soninty noiilinun aa thny have linen, will the inteniit of Ihn work Ih< i'uiisi'i'v'i'iI liy llii'ir rniiiainiiii( thera I \Ui (loi'iiiMN W'nII, that dependa upon the di»- IHiaitmn iiinl In'iirlinnaa with which thny )(ii on with thuir work That tlmy arc Mien capalil" of iloin|( iniaaionary work tlinrn can Im no ipmalion. Thny are ^ooil innn. They am lirst rate nmn. I do not know that thnre arn any lii'ttnr iiiiK.Hilili> to rctiiin tlio iihmi timt are ilii re in llie Held witli tliiit friction I l)R Coi'llHAN If I inny answer llint iniealion ncc<>r(lin)( to my knowledge iind j\ul;;iu(iil, I do not seo ivny reaion why 'ht-y should not lie relnined, iirisini; from thut Bouroe. 'I'liero nmy hi', but I do not know of iiny reasofis from that snuroo llmt wouui l>o snilicient to withdraw thmn from the lield. I>M. 'P. ti. Williams I feel liki' a.skin;;, tlu'ii),'h it nmy lie objected to by some, wliether the interests ot tlip work would be (iromoUHl by chiiii^ini; the inaimi,'ement of the Woman's MisNioinlry Society there from wh:it it lius been up to II recent date I hit. Si:tiiI'I«i.anii — That is not for us to say. Db. Williams — I asked for the opinion. I think I'r. OocliruM eau object to reply if he chcKises. I>B. SuTllKHLA>Mi — Tlie Woman's Mission work and the miinaaement of it is not U-fore tliis Hoard in any shnjie at the pnwerit time. We do not ap|>oint the liead ol tho Wonmn's worl, mi any way. Dr. Wil..ums 1 iim ipiite aware of that. I»H. S' TiiitKLVMi — If. in tlie course of this investi- gation, tho worl: of the Woman's Mission.iry Society comes up, Its it must (h) u.nliT one of the hends of my Review, thon is the time ,f at all, to call that matter in riuestion. hit, Williams -Iio you .■•ny the ipiestion i,- out of order ? TlIK ClIAlKlAV I cio not, brother, lier^m.-ie it m ijht be tlie I'lict Uiot Ihfi headship of the Woman's Missionary S50'''ety •.v>iuld be the very reason of the entan;;lonient, and if Dr. ('ochran feels free to ji'wp any opinion upon that, tho Chair does not sim! an"' mure aijainst that (piostion than many that have Ih'i'U answered. .'III. "iTIIKliLAND l."t tlie ask as to a p(unt of ord«tr. If an opinion upon this subject is jjiven, do we U!ul(in.litiid then that there will lie an opportunity for reply. if neoeiMuiry, to come from the side of the lady ini.ssionaries I TlIK I lUlKUVN Uh, eertainly. 1 doniit know that Dr. (leoliran is bound to answer that qnestion. .M't. .M vt'l.AHKN -Then I think tins Hoard should know wl-«\ler it intends to enter ui>on this branch of the iiivos- lijjutiv •< li(>fore we decide on tho motion now before u>, and I think we ">ui;lit to ileliberntelv decide as to whether we will enter i pon the en(|uiry which Dr. Williams has RUijgesleil, • w he' her that will be ileferred. .My own judgment is I : if we are jjoinj into it at all. we muht to defer it until afu- the vote upon the other matter. TlIK t'liAiuVAN ''.".•■ t'hair s riilini,'in the oa,se is. that it imrt.imly hiu us appt ipriato a iM'arin^' on the youn;; men as lininy of the ipiestio « that have been answered. It may haVB as much to (o with theii discontent ,ia any otiier luhjeci Mr. l>(iyi.V' I hope that tlii're will be no itten of this Hourd i.-Miii ■< o (I vot« on this ([uestion until we hear all the xvideoctt f . it is to lie yiven. Till* OllA" »N- -i thought it w.is the mind of the Hoard to go throug jvery br.i'ich of the in\ esti(;atiiin, and then rtlurn on oi- v.ites ; tuk^s a back traiik on vutes Dr. Ini II li was stati'd l.y Dr. Cochran that one of the causes of .'.1.. ditrereiu-es of opinion arose, in the first placr, b ci)i|-,i' if t'lie fliirerence nt' iiews eiifertiiined liv Dr Ma-;i>i'.rtid and Dr Kby and others in reijard to the rabtTiacle solien •. 1 w.iuld like to ask Dr. < 'ochran fur Ilii '^.pillion in the li!,dit of eM-nts up to the present time. ii%d lakiii'.^ into ( onsideratioii the limitationH as regards tliH miisioimrv resuinves, whether he thinks fliat thi! expenditun- of money upon the 'ra..ernacle scheme up to tho pr.'wni time has li"ei> justilied by tlie result, or whether the expi-.idiiuri' i', the saiii ' sum of money iipun the iMitetmiim of the w.>. k in other directions woiihl hive msulted Is'tter to tl:e Mission/ The beari'm and pertin- once of it, in my opinion, iy this : The variance Iwtween til 'HO young men and Dr. M icdoriald liaK arisen, or aro>.e in the first place, partly be.'ausi- ■ if difference of opinion alout this sclieine, .\(nv the ipiestioii i«, have the events, in Dr Cochran's opinion, justified Dr. .Macdonald's jiidi(- luent in this matter, or hive they justilied the juih^nie'nl ,,f tll« young men / That is the |i..rtineiie« of the' ipiciition Dii. Cochran- My judgment in that the MisBion ary Soiiiety should either have Rpeiit legs upon that enter- prise, or that they should have spent more. That ineRns that theexpeiiditurn up to this day has not been wise, has not been best. That there has been an expenditure per- mittid that rei|iiirc(l further expenditure in order to olliciency, and that further expenditure has not iK'en granted, ai il thi- etliciency of ihe institution has not been maintained That if you were not prepared to go on and extend that work, :iml keep it up pretty lilierally, you are liardiv justified in carrying it as far as you have. 1)h. St TiinuiAXl) U't nie ask in what particular has the financial provision not been suHicicnt for fully testini; and carryiiit: on tliat work / That is, what has the Hoard ri'I'used in the way of oxpeniliture for yoorly main tenance and c.iriyiiigon of the work I Dk. Coiiiii vN -In just ihi.s way: The item of five hundred dollars that wiui asked for son.e yeai^ ago was in my judgment absolutely necessary in order to the carry in;; on of the work, and lady missionary help was necessai v, and that was not supplied. Dr. Si'tiikulaxp -These are the two points? Dr. Coi'iiran — Ye«. Dr. SiTiiKKLAsr) The live hundred dollars spoken of we understo .Vi cordiii}; to the account piil' lished it seems that more than that has been ex{>euded i.ir that particular pari. Dn. CiMiiii.AS Well, be that as it may, 'he Tabii nacle fell in its elhciency through lack of working powii Dr. Kby wiis not himself able to do coiit.nual work. •!• reipiired to be suppl'Minnted by native help, by forel:;'i missionary help, by the he p of the ladies; and all this, t.. t'lther with many items of expense, required a good dc.ii of liberality on the part of the Hoard. Dr. TovKLL I remenilier at the (Jeiieral Coiifi i ance .Mr. S itoh pai I a hiijh compliment to Dr. K v in con nection with his work : in ell'ect he .said that th;' lectnn - yiven, and other wmk engapd in by Dr. Kby, had done i great deal toward turniii}{ the att 'iition of theediical'l classes to the subjeet of Christiaoity, that he could not well be sjiared fnnii the work, iinii that he was of gn- 1' v.ilue til the missionary work in Japan. Could you in dorse thut I Du. CoiiiUAN — 1 would rei|uirfi to put limitations to it. TlIK (.'iiviiiMAN — You do not endorse the whole thing/ Dr. CorilR\N No. The extent to which Dr. Kby'. work took hold of the educated cluj-ses was limited. It iiev»r reached, as far as 1 know, tin ui.iversily sludenn proper. It did nit take any very gnat hold of the com miiiiity round alsnit, the population in ihat district of tli- city. It did lar/H number of 11 ingo is e and go.enimi thousand stud e iipire, who f! the great boi III iko out the e\.njtly right, t,i get hold of them forChrii constitute a C would be ev thoroughly e> workers in th fiirth with a c their minds a Dh. Potts- altraotod whe Dk. Cochrj a coiisiderabh .Mr. Macl.a as evangelists from the clas speaking, or a Dr. Cociii know of. Ni a university ii Dr. Wm. V workings of t III inagenent i Society 1 Th deem it advisi Dr. Cociir be asked to g The CiiAiii Dr. CotMi have to pros not without opinion upon Mr. (tURNK Mr. Kkttl the question Dr. Coonii young men w in that belief no statement that. I hav running thro' that give me iiDthiiig in th I could liise TlIK t/'llAII show that till Dr. Coi'iii wire to give upon what is us. Mr. Ciiihi ill the Taber liistilied il Du. Conn 1' is capable j.uslicd. 1 nerliaps was boi'ii lietter i Dr. SiiTii touching the think it is visionary scl Ol cohoeptioi the shape w and difri':ult Du. r. (i. Dr. Wm. W ih'linite ans\ TlIK (JllAI Hoard. Till that he Ho.' and lliey do PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 131 in Minitiiiii that eiitfr Tliat iiieRiis en wine, luw indituro per- il! order tn not Imm'Ii 1118 not liceii to go on and lly, you 111.- particuhii nt for fully vliiit has tlh' yuorly iiiuin tt'ni of fivi- ago WB-s ill ic iarr)iii^' tl IS necessan. Ila spoken expense of n iniportaiit 1 USPS. Tlieic I, no wealth raw money. .1 iiiiall, indeeil lighted ami nearly (ivi- g, not iiienlv to carry on of the week, IH exounse of leed, and tli.- not a iliii-i ■y item, Ini' 1 e eliief ones iKliting wi-r.- dollars. W . live liuiidii'l the atereopli iiH made t'r>i irr that lieai >t reiiuirt! liw- iccount pill' expendeil nn ', 'lie Tttltei rkinj( powi p il work- M. ', l)y foreii;! id all this, t . I a good iliMi leral Coiifi r •• K y in e. n t th>i leetiiM - ', had dnnr > the ediicat' I he could IK I was of ('111' ould you I h : liniitatloii^ hole Hiinu' ' •h Dr. Kl.v . I limited. I< sily Htudeiii' 1 of the cnii, iistrict of tilt' city. It did attract a floating population, and especially a 1 ir/e niiinlier of students of private schools. The district of U )n){0 is oiicoinpassed by a mimlier of private schools and no.enimaiit schools that have at least one hundred tliiumaiid students in tlioin, gathered from all parts of the e ii|iiie, who go up to the capitnl to seek for educivtion, and the great body of tlieso aro lloating students, trving to 111 ike out the best they can, and of course the location is cviutly right, in the midst of such schools, and the aim was 1(1 ;,'et hold of these classes of young men and inlUience tlieiii for Christ; and though tliey would not stay hmir, nor constitute a Church, nor bo a means of support, yet they wiiiild be evangelized, some of them perhaps might be ili.iroughly evangelized, and wo would draw from them wiirkers in the future, and that anyway they would go forth with a certain amount of th-i seeds of the Gospel in tlicir minds and hearts. I In. PoTT.s— Why were those of the student class not attracted when it was specially designed for tiiem I Uk. CocilR.\N— This class of students were attracted to a considerable degree, but not the university men. ■Mil. M.\oi,ABKN — The young men, Japanese, that we get as cvangelisfs, probationers, and the like, are they drawn fnnn the class of students of whom you have just been "peaking, or are a numlxtr of them university men 1 1)11. Cochran — We have no university men that I know of. No universit}' men proper. Mr. Iliraiwa was a university man, but ho never completed his course. Dli. Wm. Wim.iamh — How far would the harmonious w.irkings of these six men be art'ected l.v any change of ininage-nent among the agents of the Woman's Missionary Society? That is substantially the (juestion. Do you deem it advisable that there should be a change .' Dr. ConiUAN — Well, if I answer that question I may lie asked to give reasons. TiiK CiiAiKMAN — You certainly will. Dii. Cochran— If I go into the matter I would liivo to present my reasons. I may say that 1 am iioi without an opinion. I would not like to give my c>|iinion upon that without also adding sometliing to it. -Mk. (fUKNEV — L't us take that nuestion by itself. Mu. KETTLKWKLt,— Does Dr. Coehraii think it aliects the question we aro now dealing with seriously 1 Dli. Cochran — I do not see that it sliouUl atFect the young nien who are in th(( field, but I believe it doi's, and in that belief I mav be wrong. It is an opinion. I have iin statement from anybidy that would warrant my saying that. I have certain knowledge and certain convictions, running through the past and coming up into the present, that give me a judi;ineiit of my own about it. I have nothing in the way cf statements from others upon which 1 could bise an opinion. TiiK Chairman — l)oes not the document of the Board sli iw that that is an element of th(> i;mbroilment 1 Dk. CochuaN— 1 was going to say, if I might, that if I were to give my reasons at all, I shoukl have to base them upon what is stated in that documunt that wo have before us. Mr. Chishoi.m— Owing to the elliciency of the work done 111 tile Tabernacle, as jusl, referred to by yourself, are we instilled in regarding that, scheme as visionary? Dn. Cochran —No, sir. It li.ts done some good work. I' is capable of doing good work if properly managed and (.iished. 1 think yon have spent more money on it than iiirliaps wag necessary, and that the money would have licin Ix'ttor spe:it in other direcimis. Dr. SuTHKili.ANn -To guard against misapprehensions '"iiching the (piestion just i> -.ked by .Mr. Chisliolm, I do not tliiiik it is anywhere stated that the Piberiiacle is a Msionary scheme. It is stated that in its titst inception, or cmiception, it was a visionary scheme, and that even in the shape which it iiltiinai 'y asnimed, it was expensive and diHi;ult to run. Dr. T. C. Wim.iams -It seems to me that ti.-^ question lb. Wm. Williams has put has not received a straight and •h'linite answer. TiiK Chairman —Dr, (Jochran is waiting tno will of the linard The Hoard slaniU shivering on the brink. 1 see that In- Hoard is putting oil' the great question at issue, ami they do not git lit it. U is time wc got at it. That is my own convicticn. I think we ought to formally get at it under motion. Dr. T. (}. Wim.iams -I was about to say that the question which Dr. William Williams has asked seems to be a very ticklish question in the estimation of the Hoard. It iiiiy bo to those who know. T'o those who do not know it is just like any ordinary question ; but I suppose we may safely infer that if tliero is a hesitancy about the reply to Dr. Williams' question at the preswi.t moment, that out of simple respect to Dr. Willui.n he is e ititled to he told that his (juestion wiP be answeiY.d -.i a later point of the meeting. Thk(^!iiairman — I think the question is pertinent to our investigation. Mr. Aikinh— In order to bring the matter forn lly be- fore the Board, I move that no further stivtemer.ts Vietakfca relating to the relationsliip existing between the six mis- sionaries and the Woman's Missionary Kocioty. TiiK CiiAiiiMAN — Do you mean that for the whole tenor of our Board meeting? Mr. Aikinh — No ; but in the present question. My reason for saying it is tbis : I, for one, and I dare say there are many others, have come to a conclusion as to what ought to be done with these six missionaries. Dr. T. (}. Williams— No. Mr. Aikins — 1, for one, have come to that conclusion, without in any way going into this question as to any antagonism that may exist oetween the Woman's Mission- ary Society and the men on the field. It seems to me eminently desirable that if wo can come to a fairly unani- mous conclusion that wo ought to come to that conclusion without entering upon that question, because otherwise it may be said that the reason for the recall of these mission- aries was because tlie'-e was antagonism existing between the two Societies. Now 1 think it will be detrimental to the interest? of the Woman's Missionary Society, and detrimeniai to the interests of our Society and of the missionaries in tie tield, that that should be given as one of the reasons why we '.'^-tiall those missionaries. It seems to me there is only one course oren, a course made evident by the statement of Mr. Citssidy, and that we ought to take it independently of the relationship existing between those two Societies in .lapan. Dr. W.M. WiLLiA.Ms -These six men are in the midst of certain surroundings On one side is Dr. Macdonald. On the other side is the institution I have referred to. These six men aro att'ect»d by their surr 'undings and affected by every point of their surroundings, and our question as to wlh'ther these six men should .tay there or should return is all.'cted by their surroundings and by the way in which the surroundings will alfeot them in the time to come, and also by the way in which they have been affected by them in the past. So it does seem to me that we cannot decide this q lestion without looking at every- thing affecting it. Ti.ese six men stand there before us and before the Christian world to-day and they demand action nt our hands, and we cunnot act clearly and satisfac- torily unless we know all the fact .. The reasons mentioned by y\r. .\ikins need not be stated, but certainly all the facts bearing upon the ipiestion must be stated ; and this is one of the facts If Dr. t'oidiran felt free to answer the ques- tion more fully, 1, for one, think it would be the proper tliinir to do. Hut if 1 Cochran does not feel free to answer the question more fully I should not press him in that matter. At the .same time, someone must answer the (piestion and we must answer to ourselves. TiiK CiiAiHMAN Somewhere, at some time during the investigation those points must be reached. Dii. CiiciniAN -Shall 1 aiiswer the question? TilK t'liAiRMAN The question is pertinent. Dr. Potts Would it not come Ijetter when we deal with the strained relations between the General Society and the Woman's Missionary Society I Tin; Chairman It will come then. Dr. Pons I think it will be better tnen than now. I will second Mr. Aikins' resolution. I should be very glad if we could decide this question before wo hear a word from the Woman's Missionary Society. I believe that we have documentarv evidence enough to enable us to ci-me to an intelligent conclusion in relation to the six brethren. I 182 OENKRAL BOARD OK .MISSIONS, IHOV believp t^int if wo mix it up with tlic % Viiian's nirair wp will iliscount tlio iudgiiiciit of tlu> Hoiuil oi\ the .[upstioii before it. TuK CliAiiiMAN — U tl.er« iiny thing in tht; doeunientu nnywhi're tiiat would connect it 1 Do they connect it 1 A Memhek — No. Mil. CiiiNiioLM — Would the CImir feel free to state llio question lieforo the Poard, whetlier or not it conlines itself simply to the proprievy of receiving the resignation of these six men or not i TiiK Chairman- Tlint is th" original motion. The Secretary will read the motion if anylKxly calls for it. Mb. ClllsiioL.M — 1 call for it. (Motion read accordingly.) Mr. riii.siioi.M- I usk whether or not "'e are coutined just to the consideration of the propriety Ci the reception of those resignations or not I TliK CiiAlKMAN — That is the question that is now l)efore us. That is the main motion. And wo are examining any witnesses or documents within that limitation. We are confining ourselves to the six missionaries, and it is only a.s a question may be pertinent thereto that it ought to be admitted, whatever the Chair may have done. Mr. Chishoi.m- Then if the statement made by Dr. Coi'hran in reference to the elh. iency of those six men that are in the Held lie correct, it ia ocrtainly pertinent to tind out what influence other associations would have upon their efficiency, or other managfimnt of the work there. TiiK Chairman — Dh, the t hair has ruled the question pertinent. If the Ijielhren think ihey have enough to act upon, why, that Is their own aH'iiir. Some may count without reckoning, and may not be so unaniincus as they imagine. Dh. T. (J. WiM.iAM.s— I also call attention to the fact that these six brethren, in their last iitter laid before this committee, make a reference of this character that the fact of a persona! grievance of any kind did not enter into the (|ue8tioii of their rp<|ut'st for recall, and soon, (hir lady fiienils had nii inteiesl in that Joint Committee, Mii. Maci.aiik.n- They imd no lenponsibility for- that. Dh. Tovkli. — I deprecate bringing in this (picstion while we htve this resoluti< n under discussion. If wi' could lay that resolution on the table by motion, and leave the way clear ''len for a discussion of this ((uestion, the strained relations between the Woman's Missionary Society, or its agents there, and the others, we would get around the point. The <'iiaihman -That is a matter of expediency and procedure. Me. Chishoi.m— I should like to ask a ((uestiou f>f Dr. Cochrpr,. It is tliis : Supposing this question, on the ground of ex|)ediency. is defprred until some future session o*" the Hoard, can Dr. Cochran remain here to give us his views concerning this matter / Dh. ConiRAN- I can remain until Thursday. If neces- sary f can remain until 'J'hursday evening, f should I ;o to get away Thuisday ii.orning, but if it is iiecessar I will stay until Thursday evening. I will stay until the last hour 1 can to serve tl,. Hoard. The Board can com- niana thalever knowledge 1 possess, or opinions either, if they chiose to ask for ;hem, in regard to these mattem. TliK CiiAiiiMAN The motion U'forc us is that any ques tions on the main .notion that may haw relation to the difficulty '"tween the two Swieties in .la^an Ik- precliided in the considpralK)!! of this mo ir)n. 1 he motion is that no (|ueMion that would have refereoi'c to difliculties U'twei n the ng( Ills of the two Socicies be now asked. Mh. Chishoi.m Hef( re ti.e nioii. n is put, what wo,, d lie the biiii'til to be deiivxl from flu- uuov. in,{ of that (|ue8tioii ill uny other relitidi than the one we .have up now 1 Mit. DoNLv—f would move that the main motion lie tabled until w(^ go on with this. Mr. Uohixson -I second it. (The motion wiis put and carried.) Tlir. (^HAliiMAN Now, then, what subject will you take up? Yon have passed a resolution this morning to the effect that we now consider the diflereiices in :.ie Missions in Japan. The (pjestioii is how the matter is to be reached : whether you will recall certain sections of the General SecreUiy's doc ent. and have any t cerned ! If theie be any objection to that it will be state i, and if not the Chair will make that proposition. Woiiui the President or the Secietary of the ladies' Society plea.' inform us whether it would be congenial to their niiihl, to take thiit stiitenient as it is, the statement that w ,, prepared by the Ceneral Se( retary in what relates to tin n .Mission and th.- trouble lietween the agents of the t« Societies there, and make their statement in conuectiiii with that, or do they prefer sone other method f Mr. IIai'LAHUN Is that the position which we shoiili take/ I 'hink the Hoard should consider whether thai n the position for us to take with regard to the Woman > Missionary .Society I I think that is open to <|uesti( n. Thk CiiAiiiMAN The Chair is open to any suggestioi - It is a matter ot procedure now. Mii l>OM.> We lire under resolution that the ladies i <• henrd on the ai'senibling of the Hoard this afternoon. Mil. .Maci.ahkn 1 ilo not understand that the W'oniai, ^ .Missionary Society is coming up with any presentaiimi, except we desire ti> hear I hem TiiK ( 'iiAiRM \N - < Mir presentation is, in a sense, in that document. .Mil. MACt.AREN - I have not lieord of any comniunn i tion from '.l;;' Woiiian'.s .Society really expressing ai \ dtsire to be heard. I think that the overture is from ii- TiiE Ciiaiiiman- The Chair is now making it. Are ii" oflicers of the Ijidies' Missionary Society prepared to i\ whether thev prefer to take that document and say a i a ihiiif: rcgo.ding it, or whether they prefer to htive u.s n k il la- l.i II ■ at PROCEEUINOS HJ'J JAPAN AFFAIRS. 133 ny presentaiiiiii. 1 n sense, in tint lereshoulia lip'iily iirHs to nnswer them, i»ml bIu! iimy require to iiill to Ikm' iHslstiuice infornmtioii from otluM'u. M'lS. Stkaciian— I tliouglit you were gniw^ to ask tlie !rii.,.-. left over for this lady to speak of. But 1 shall be 'ery much disappoint e 1 if there are not very many importain f.icts liearing upon this (juestion within the knowled<;' of .Mrs Str:>ulian, and MS to wiiich perliaps no returned missionary who is here would be able to speak, and I would su:;i:e-it, if she would kindly come within speaking dist.ince of the Chair, that you ind siie could readily .settle that p.irt of the matter, and then that you could follow it up by these la lii!s being called, :in ;rrouped. Dh. St'TilEllLAND — I am informed that ivnh one of the liidy missionaries who are here li.is personal knowledge of ^ oiiie one or more phases of this dispute ami ditHeulty. Iiiat some can speak from personal knowledge upon one fill, or series o*' facts or stateinenrs, and cannot upon the niliers; that, for example, with reyard to the part of this fiction or dispute which haiijiened during the year when Mis. Lirge was in this countiy. she has not personal know 'il^e ; but there are others of the ladies present who have |ii isonal knowledge, and <'an speak , and ther lore, when e:iih successive phase of the theme comes up they can i]iiiekly inform us wduch of the ladies, from personal know iiil^e, can speak to that point. Mrs. Strachan, at the reipiest of the Chair, then eaine fiirwRitl, and the following ipiestions were asked : Tub CllAlKMAN- (i. Are the ladies that are here wilh us today, l)esides the President and yourself, returned niis.sionarios, all of them ? There are how many '! A. Tlierf" are seven. (■i. And they cov<^r a period in .lapaii of svliat years ! .\ From 188."), when Mrs. Large lirst went. 1,1. Was that the opening of your mission there ! A. No, ■■ir. Miss Cartmell went in I88'J. Q. And Mrs. Large went out in 1H,><.'), Are there any that are contemporaneous with that early period ? or are liiey all of subsequent time f A. All of .some suli.seipient tune, but some shortly afterwanls. 'i. Now, do the laiiies admit that there are any troubles lliere in Japan between the two Societies! or, is every tiling in harmony and in cood working order ' .\. There certainly is disturbance. •>> And have these disturbames hindered the lady ii.i-sionaries in their work I A. Ill some respects they have. They have resulted in liiiiiting the number of our workers, and have hindered us. ',> Are any of the ladies home on ai'count of tin' disturb- in e, from inability to work there on account of the disturb- iu„el A. No.* • Mf». Stntchan mih«'|uciiil.v corrKtert thin iiUt«ni«nt. 8c« p. 130, ">] 1. y. They are liorae on other grounds. Well, what is the general impression they have of the disturbances f Did the disturbances arise on personal grounds— anything like per- sonal inaptitude or dislike ( or did they arise on what we would perhaps call disciplinary grounds ; that is to say conlliot of work, or prerogative, or on what grounds do you imagine they arose? Or is there any contlict or authority 1 A. I think it began in that way. 1 think the beginning of it was interference in work. Q. A misundei-standing between tlie agencies of the two Societies. Was that as to work in the lield t A. Yes, sir. O. Or was it work in the school f You hiivo lady workers there in the schools and homes, and how could they come into conflict with ministers in the lield ? What was your plan of work ? A. More in the evangelistic department. Q. Would you have the goodness to give us an idea of the general plan of work, that we may see how any friction might arise 1 A. in addition to our school work v/e have certain missionaries set apart for evangelistic work, to superin- tend the Bible women and conduet I-iabbath Schools, to hold meetings for the women, and such like. I believe that conflict arose in regard to the superintendency of the Sunday Schools, the brethren claiming the risrbt to appoint the superintendents of those Sunday Schools. (-i. Will you describe thosn Sunday Schools, whether they are large Sunday Schools in churches? A. I feel as if the missioiiariei c luld do this better than 1 can. As opportunity otters, our missionaries have access to ditl'erent homes and establish some Sunday S.hools in these homes, sending one of their number, accompanied perhaps by a native pupil wdio can interpret to the Bible woniisn, and they hold these Sunday Schools in these homes. I believe it was the claim of one of the pastors — no^ the pastor, per- haps, but one of the officials of the district — that they should have the right to appoint superintendents and to iiand over the work, as it were, to one of the ev.mgelists. It is claimed by our ladies that this would never meet with the sanction of the parent.s, and that the Sunday School would be really destroyed if that were insisted upon, and claiming the right for our women to superintend and manage these .Sundry Schools in their own way. tj. Well, were those Sunday Schools only on the Sabbath Jay? A. That is all. i). And were they organized anywhere outside of the homes of the people I .\ They were not. Of course we have Sunday Schools in our own ccl.ocls. Q. What IS the general size — what is the general current ■•■.•id run of that kind of work ? A. In some districts we have six or seven of these Sunday Schools. Q. What do you mean by using the word "district"? Do you mean a town district ( A. A church district. 'i- Have you more than one within the territory of any one pastor? A. Yes, I think so. l^. Are there cases where there would be more than one? A. I really feel as if I have not sufficient information. I do not know as well as the missionaries themselves of these details. l^. 1 am anxious to ascertain, and I suppose tiie lioard would like to know, the i-hiiracter of what you call Sunday schools. As I understand you, it would seem to be that the minister in charge claimed these as in a disciplinary seiihe Sunday -Jchools. Did that seem to be a difficulty ? and as under the Discipline of the Church they were Sunday Schools that they claimed the government and appointment? A. Yes. They claimed we .should not call them Sunday Schools, because the superiiiiendeiit war not appointed in the ordinary di-sciplinary way by the pastor. Q. Would not your Society accept that, and not call them Sunday Schools? A. It was the most convenient name, and the most appropriate that wo could think of. Tliey were on Sunday. il iiut would thai; have got over the difficulty ? A. Oh, I don't know. Q. Not to call them Sunday Schools ? If you could have compromised on that, if you had four or live in houses around town, and you did not call them Sunday Schools, called them Home schools ? If you had organized them as Home schooU, our Discipline does not give a pastor any #i '"^ySfiX in4 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1893. authority fn a Home scliool. You orgnnized thpm and cnlled tlipii. Sunday Sclioiils, ntid tlien it kocmis tlip jinatore cininied jiii isdietion. Well, liiivo you any idea of tlie ordinary size ) A. Pcrliups 8om« of the ladii-s could answer tliat queblion. Dli. iSl'TllKRi.ANi) — There are some of the Indies here who did this lhinj{, and know why they did it, and know tho nature of the complaint, iind tliey can teJ us in Kve minutes. Mrs. Htrnchan knows only hv report. The Chairman-- I will ask Mrs. Straolian to refer to the lady. Call any lady tell lis how liirKe those schools usually were, and wlielher there were many Sunday Schools in the charge, in tlie disciplinary sense / A. I am sure Mrs. Large could explain the whole thing. Mrs. Laroe— May I ask one question! I want to know the disciplinary bense. The Chairman— I am asking questions now. When the time conies, it will lie a proper tiling for you to ask questions. 1 want to know how ;.liout tlieae srhools, aliout how many there were in a cliaige, and what was the usual size of tliein 1 A. In Azahu we liad, when 1 left Tokyo, three Salilmth Schools within the jurisdiolion of the Azabu church, and they ranged in attendance from fifteen to twenty, according to the size of ilie house in which we had the school. In Shizuoka DistiicI there were live or six, at least. In Yamanash: |)iKtrict 1 think tlicy have at the present time si.v Snmlay l^chools lu Tokyo our Sunday Schools were entirely carried on iiy stuilcnts in :>ur girls' school, the senior students. One or two of them were graduates who were working in com eel ion with our foreign workers. They were conducted on Saliliath afti^rnoons. The girls earned on the school. In some cases they followed the same way of conducting school as our Sah bath Schools are conducted in our girls' schooln. I would like to say that we never had any dilliculty at all wiili the pastor in Azabu church. Not one of these .Sabbath Schools was opened without lirst consulting with him. It was impossible for the children o' the district to U- gathered into the church Sabliath School, just because of the distance from the poor districts especially, in which we worked ; and then the schoolroom in the chmch wiis altogether too ■mall ; but even bad it been hirger, it would lone been impossible to have kept the cliihlren together, or gathered them in the church Saiibath School. So that, with the con- gent of the pastor, we opened these .Sabbath Schools, y. Whenever you pn-posed to op mi work, had you a uniform proce|"ised to go to a place and open a school, liail you any consultation with the pastor on the field / A. Always, I cm speaking now for Azabu, where I lived. Whenever two .Inpane^e workers lefiorted that the opening of a Sabbath ScIukjI x/as advisable, I sought a consultation with the |>astoi, laid ihe matter iH'fore him ; we talked it over, and he always gaV" us his consent. Q. Ill what way did this matter of claiming a jurisdic- tion on the part of the pastors start! VV hi re die] vou meet that 1 A. That was in Shizuoka, and f must ask Miss Hart alxiut that, .She knows that matter. I liad nothing directly to do with it, Q. You may know whi-llur it was dilli-rent there. Did the ditiiculty occur anywhere el.ie ( A. Not tliat I am aware of, n a Held where there were gome of our missionaries that the dilli.ulty arosi! I A. Yes. Q. No difficulty with the Japanese p^islors? A. Na Q, I>oes Dr. .Sutherland distinguish lietween the pastors whether they be .lapainse or foreign 1 Dii. .SiiTiiKHi.AMi .My impression just now is, that the word " broad " he used. I think he meant that we did not use the l«'st means for spreading our work That we were not in as.sociaiioii, in close connection, w lli the Japanese workera in Shizuoka District ; that we wi rr narrow, in that we kept ourselves t(X) much to our schonls and to our own work, t,|. Mr, Ca>sidy was Chairman of the District, was he ( A, Yes, sir. t,>, .And who was the pastor? .V, Mr, Kobayashi ; that is, tlie elder Mr. KoUiya^lii The younger .Mr. K ibiiyashi was not in the country at tin- time. Mr-, Cass liy then proposed that the evangelists vii„, were in connection with his school sluaild be in relaii n with the work in our Suiuhiy .Schools, I stated it won M not do at all, as the girls were entrusted to our care, W >■ had thesu|>ervision of them, and it was neces.taiy that ili.v should be direi'tly under our care ; if they were to do il,. Work in connection with our Society, that we couhl ii^i allow the evai gelists to be in association with our girl- m their Sund.u Schools. These evangelists were male >in- dents in .Mr Ciuisidy's school. Q, Ann did yon conline your .Sunday Schools, as tlr.v are called, wholly to girls] A, No, sir ; we had giri nnd boy pu( ils in our .Siinil.n Schools, but they were altogether conducted liy the siriiur girls ill our school. Then it was slated that wo conliri'l ourselves too much to school wurk.and not enough tog..;!;: almut the country and holding meetings in ditl'erent pan~ "i thedistrict, .Mr, Cassidy (ho-jght that wi ought to |..ii.' our sehiKil work and go wiili him on expeditions through li'' country, [Mrlmps two or three ilays or a week at a tinn- I stated that that would not be right for us to do, as I »v is appointed to school work as will as to evangelistic w. i,k, and the curriciiluin that we liad was sent thioiigli iil the country, and the girls, as they came to us, expeclnl in have the lessons tjiught as they were laid dow n there, mil I would be neglecting my duty if I left my sch"ol «oik, that could not lie done by Miss Holmrtson, who wik my associate, and there was no one else to take it. The ilm cussion was not a quiet one ; it was a pretty hot "'.•, Miss UoUjrtson was in the room at the time. She look nu PHOCEKDINOS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 185 t will give UH IH'll lis follows trill (juartiTs I •istrict, was Schools, as ili'v part whatever in the converHiitioii. Wo did not tulle iiWnut it afterwards ; liut eitlitir the iliiy aftci' or two diiya iiftrr Miss Muiiro ciiiiiii from Tokyo, and while v,^\ woro tiilkiig over our work, 1 iiKiiitioucil what I have stated here. Miss Muiiio rcporti-d it to Azilpii and lo Dr. Macdonald. Mr. (-'assidy was in Tokyo, and Dr. Macdonald talked uf it to liini. .Mr. Cassidy wrote a letter. I do not rciiioiidwr wlicthcr it v.us to lioth of us, or to Miss Kolii'itsoii, but .Misn .Muiiio states ill the report that she has given in tliu doL-uiiHiit thiit Dr. Sutherland has jirepaied, tliat tlirn; was an angry hotter. I do not think, with the iiupn'.ssion I have of that letter, that it was an angry one. It was a hitler that stated that wn hud not understood what whs iiieaMl, In the iiieaiitiine we had received a coiniiiunication from .\/al)ii, asking or desiring us to have another eonvi^rsatioii with .Mr. (Jassiilv, and see if we could not bring about a betlir re.sult. ' )ur letters crossed, and .Mr. Cassidy wrote a very kind letter, saying that he was very gl.ui indeed to h.ive, a second conversation over the matter. So .Mr, (.'assidy came. 1 noted down the facts as 1 remembered tbcm, and .Miss liobertson also remembered them in the same way, and we met together. When I went over the points to Mr. Cas.sidy, he said that he was very sorry indeed, but that wo had loinpletely misunderstood him ; that his ide.i was that we sliould have a joint meeting of the evangelists and the .Sunday School workers and those in connection with our work, — have a meeting in consultation in which we could litik over our plans of work, and do better work in our Sunday Schools and on the district. 1 said, '■ .Mr. Cassidy, 1 ipiite agree with that ; I have no olijection at all ; 1 think that is a very wise course to take." .\n,i tliat was followed out afterwards. We have had a con.sultalion of all the Sunday School workers in connection with our work since that time - joint ( oii'iiltation. As far as our relations with the Japanese pastors w('re concerned, every- thing was in perfect harmony. The Siin.lay Schools were all established when f went there, so that there was not any necessity for nie 4<> consult with .Mr. ICobayashi to open up new Sunday Schools, so that that did not fall to my lot. TllK CllAinMAN -Did you say the Sunday Schools were established! Were those the circuit .Sunday Schools, by Mr. Kobayashi 1 A. No, sir. I mean the Sund.ay .Sc' ools in connection with our women's work They liad been established by Miss .Morgan, my predecessor. (I And was there on the circuit another .Sunday School, or a Sunday School in the church proper ! A. Yes, there was the Church Sunday Scihool. Q. And yours were in the homes about t A. Yes, sir. Ukv. Mil. Kktti.KWKI.i, Did they nieet at the same hour 1 A. I do not rb'.nember. Our Sunday Schools were all in ilie aft<'rnoon. Our qirls always attended cliiMcli in the morning, and we had a Sunday School for the children ill our own neighborhood in the school room, and the other Sunday Schools were in the districts Dii. Potts — Will you kindly ask if those Sunday Schools werereportedtotlieJapaiie.se C iiience as schools con- nected with the Methodist Chinch '. A. Yes, sir, they were reported to .Mr. Kobay.islii, who «,is the pastor of the church, and he reported them lo the Conference, but they went in our report as the repMt. of I he work that we were doing. .Mhh. liAllciK— In accordance with the ipiestioii that Dr. i'otU has asked, I would like to say something abont the iiiatter, about whether those schools were always reported. The est.ililishmeiit of those si-hools, 1 may say, has been since the yiar ISIM). Kroiii th.it until If^'.i:! these Sunday Schools were reported by the pastor of the chill ch as so' many Sunday Schools in coiineclioii with his clnirch. In 1H'.>.'1 Miss Kobcrtson, who had then only just gone to .Shizuokn, wrote to me, s.iyiiiy, " Mow is it almut the Sunday Schools ! If .Mr. KoKayMshi reports that lie his, say, si.x Sunday Schools in connection with his church, ami then we send in our Woman's n-port that we have M.X Sabbath Si'hools, it s s to lepivsenv that there are twelve Sabbath Schools. If we report we have live, it represenU there are eleven Sabbath Schools, where really there are hut six." I wrote back, saying, 'I think as iliey are women's work, that that is where they should be ilowi'ver, you had better talk with Mr. Kob*yaslii on the maiter." .Miss I'.lackiuore, I think it was, wrote to me from Kofii asking the same i|uestioii, and I gave her the same advice. I spoke to our own pastor, and he assented, and that year the report of the Sabb.itli .Schools went in only ill our own report. Shortly after conference Dr. Macdoiiald wrote to me, saying, "Mrs. Macdonald, in looking over the report of the Japan work now going to (^aiiaila, notices this in connection with the re|>ort from Sliizuoka District. After the report was given there was a slight paragraph saying (perhaps I cannot give the words e.'c.ictly now), ' T'lie d.ierease in the nun ber of Sabbath Schools reported this year is apparent, not real, and is only c.iiised by the refusal of the women to allow their .Sabbath Schools to be reported in connection with the church.' Tills was over .Mr. Kobayashi's name." I wrote back to Dr. .Macdonald explaining the matter, and T said, "I am convinced that .Mr. Kolnyashi never wrote that para- graph.'' Dr. Macdoiiald's n-ply said, " You have entirely misunderstood the place where 1 tind they are not reported, and that is in the schedules, not in the other report of the .ictu.il work. Of course, the schedules represent the entire work done by tlio Methodist (Jliurch in .lapan ; but in your own report you have the right to give, and of course it is the right place for you to give, the number of your Sabbath Scliods. You were right in saying that .Mr. Kobayashi did not insert that in his report. Since writing to you Mr. ( 'assidy has remarked to me that lie put that in the report when he was interpreting it, and he did it to catch some- body's eye." The Cm AiiiM.vN — Well, what you took ainisti, I suppose, was the statement that the ladies had refused. Was that it ; .Miis. Laiiok — Certainly. Since Dr. Macdonald's ex- planation our work has been re|iorted as a wdiole, as Dr. Macdonald explained. The pastor reports the number of Sabbath Schools in the schedules of his district. Dli. Si-nii;!ii,A>'l> — Vor the sake of accuracy: I think the f(n'm of expression was, that the decrease in the Sunday .Schools was caused by the withdrawal of the Sunday Schools conducted by the women from the returns. Tin; CiiAiiiMAN Now, as to the organization of those schools, did .Mr. C.issidy, asCliairiiian of the District, under- take to interfere with the organization and government of the schools '. Miss Haut - No, sir Tin; Ciiaihman - As to appointing any oftlcers ? A. No, sir (,i. .\s to the (piestion of friction and the dilficuity over that reporting, is that the trouble! A. That was one instance where I was out of harmony with Mr. CJassidy, where 1 did not conform to his wishes. That and the other of iioiiig about the country vihen our school was in session. Mii. Cillsiioi.M Were those the only instances of lack of hariuoiiy ! .\. Yes, sir ; Mr. Cassidy is the only foreign missjonary with whom 1 have had any asaociivtion in our work in .la; an. Tin; CilAiK.MAN— What was the nature of the demand that you go about the country \ A. It was simply this: Mr. L'.issidv, as Chairman of the District, went at dill'm'ent times tlirouglioul his whole district conducting and holding meetings, and he thought that if I could be free from my school work. 1 would be a gr.'at help to him in drawing a crowd, a-> he said, to his meetings, because I was a foreign woman ami they would be attracted by me. I was not an ellicieiit speaker of the Japanese language, and I could not help him in that way. I could have helped him by singing, but as I did not think it was the right thing to do, I refused to do it, and so 1 was not in harinony with .Mr. I'Assidy. (). And did .Mr. Cassidy inaki' that as a ree taught. Uk. Potts— You declined to go on the evttn;?eligtic work in the country, because you felt in iloinj; .so you would lie neglecting the duties assi;;ned yon hy the Woman's Society I Was that the idea 1 A. Yes, sir. Mr. Cuibiiolm — Did you regard it as an improper thing todol A. That thought never came into my mind. It was purely that I felt that the girls lind come to our Rihools, were entrusted to our care; tliey had come there and paid their tuition fees, and they had a right to all the instruction that was laid down in our curriculum. Miss Morgan had Ijeen ill liefore I went then', and the girls had not received the full instruction. I went out in Novemlier I could not get my pasKj^ort in order to go to work liefore that. The school opened in September. Tlie girls hud not leceived all their Knglish teaching, and I vnhs nio-t anxious to do all I couUi, so that the girls might Ih> ahle to take their graduation examinations in April, and for that reason I felt It my duty to remain in school and do all I couU! to give the girls the instructions we had laid down tor them. The CuAinJlAN— As to your fSahliath Schools, I under stood you to say there was no ifl'ort made to orgiinixe them on the line of the Discipline, the pastor claiming; the right to nominate the superintendent and committee ; there wus nothing of that kind t . A. No. Q. The interference oonsi8teetwi .mi the women and the men, and that is the statement I have to make as regards myself, as to where I am out of harmony with the men. y. Yes, but that dropped 1 A. That is one instance of where I was out of harmony. Q. And is there any other 1 A. No, there is no other. Du. StTiiRHLAND — Not with you |K>rsoniilly ! A. No. Mil. L.VMULY — Tliis undersuiiuling hud left no hard feelings whiitever Ix-tween you ami .Mr. < 'assidy, nor between you and our men upon the field 1 A. We always met in our prayer meetings after that. We hafJ prayer meetings once a week witli the foreign workers. That is, Miss Robertson and myself, .Mr. Cassidy and .Mr. and Mrs. Van Dyke ; we were the only foreigners in >Shizuoka. Q. So that there is really no hard feeling iM-tween you and Mr. Cassidy and the foreigners upon the Held 1 A. No. Mil. Clllsiioi.M- -You see no ivason in Mr. Cassidy's administration why he shimlil not icturn to .lapan? A. I do not think t! • [ can answer that (|uestioM. Di(. T. (!. WiLMAMS -Do we understand Miss Mart to have already said that lietwo<-n herself mid .Mr. Cassidy there are no olijeetinnablo features to prevent the success- ful carrying out of the work t A. There is another point » here we were out of harmony. One Sunday when we were going home frutn rhuicli, .Mr. Cassidy was going home with us, and lie wanlerl inn to ({o to a plare where he was Koing to hold servici' that after- noon. He had to take the train to ){o, and In- B.sked if I would go with him. I said no, t'lat roiij(ete<| to travelling on Sunday, and that 1 liad my own Sunday School work to do and could not leave it. He laid that wh«n be first came to ilapan his opinion alwut travelling on Sunday was exactly the Mtiiiie as my own, but he had gotten over it. And since I came hack to my own country I found out that people travelled much more here on Sunday than they did when I tirst went to .lapan. Tliat is all I wish to say. Tun ("iiAiKMAN--Mr8. StraclMii suggests that we hear from Miss llurgravp. Miss ]Iargrave was then ciUled and interrogated by Chairman as follow : Q. In what Sunday School were you 7 A. I was n Kanazawa. (4. Was that under Mr. Oassidy's jurisdiction T A. No, sir, Mr. Si»unby. Q. Was he Chairman of the District t A. He was. (j. Who was the minister in charge 1 A. Mr. Saunhy was the missionary and (Chairman of the District. Then' was no ordained native minister. T.'day Schools organized by Mr Saunhy 1 A. They were organized by Mr. Saunhy ; they were his property. 1 will only speak of them in that way Miss Onniiinghnm and I were to l^k over the district ami decide what work our Woman's Society would take up. and after consnitation with Mr. Saunhy, and all the Japan ese evangelists on the field, we decided wr would take up work among the peor, by establishing charity schools, and after six months our work vas established. Id onnntTtion with these charity schools we established Sunday Schools and preaching services. At tht^ spriiii; niei'ting of our Church Sunday School work. Miss Cunniii).' ham, my associate, and myself went with Mr. Saunhy niui all the Japanese evangelists and teachers in the Chui'ili Sunday Schools. At that meeting Mr. Saunby brought ii|v the question of our two charity Sunday Schools; said thtv ought to !» couiitinl in here, 1 said, well I thought not that thosi! .Sunday >Schools were supported entirely by oiii Woman's Society ; the Church Sunday Schools in which we taught were supportetl by the Church of which we «efore Miss Cunningham ; but when tin' Confeience report came out our Sunday Schools wen counted in as ainon'.; the Church Sunday Schools, and 1 ' mention made of Woman's work. We said nothing: »• took no notice of it. I might t<;ll you that Miss Cunniiii: ham and myself were superintendents of the Church Sni. day Schools after Mr. Saunby left Kanazawa. llut w. gave no re|>ort, although we taught in these schools. TikiI was what we called the Church work. As regards tin preaching services they were entirely under the control nn I direction of the Japanese pastors, or of Mr. Saunby winj' he Was there. They were not organized fully while .Mr SaunUy was there. Such services as thei-o were, they weic under Mr. Saunby's control entirely, and report aU" Then, later this spring, after this meeting, I went on 1 visit to Tokyo. M.-. Crummy brought up the quustitm "i our Sunday School ;vork, and be said he had just tluii PROCEEDINGS HE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 137 the wonui) come into the Miwion. Ho brought down the Digoipline (III mp, and itaid that in nccordanw with the DiKcipline wo wi.r« not working pio|n>rly ; tliiit nil our work otinlit to ho under the control of thw ('liiiirnian of the District whore- iivcr we worked. 1 Buid, " If that is so, then I do not undorstiiud our positiin, iirid I had never understood it, and I Rm very glad to know that Mrs. Oooderhuni and .Mrs. Strachan, our President luid Hecretury, aio in Japan. As 80«)n as I go to Tokyo, I will lenve the nmtttjr to them," which I did some two months later, and they said that we had been working in accordance with the Discipline, as the article wa« put in our constitution. Mr. SaunUy's fur- lough came then, and he returned to America, and so far as he was concerned wo had not any more want of harmony ; but to me that was just an evidence of the under-current of the very evident desire to have control of our work. Q. Well, what did you see objectionable to being re- ported to the Annual Conference I Was that the idea ] A. We had no objection to that, but we thought, as one of the previous speakers has said, it was unnecessary lo report these Jduiiday Schools twice. If they wanted to give the whole report of the Church, put it in the Conference report as Woman's Missionary Society work ; but we thought when wo were out there we had some separate work. The work among the women we had a right to consider was our work. Q. Was there a refusal U, make that distinction, to report it a« Woman's Missionary Society work ? A. There was a disposition to have control of our work in that way. Q. How WHS that manifested ! Did they undertake to appoint any officers ? A. They wanted our Sunday Schools to come in there in connection with the Sunday School Committee; and none on the Sunday School Committee, except our two selves, had anything to do with them. Dn. SUTHEBLANU— .Miss Hargrave lias already stated that these women's Sunday Schools were reported in the (,'onference schedules with nothing to indicate that they were the schco's of the Woman's Missionary Society. Tub Chairman— So that they desired to put your Sunday Schools under the Sunday School Committee! A. The Church Snnd.iy School (,'ominitlee. t^. You had not any Sunday School Connnitteft in your own Sunday School as bUcIi \ A. We had ; there were iny associate and myself, and our two helpers. Q. Your difficulty then was with .Mr. Saunhy? A, That was the Hrst evidence I had. Q. Did that lead to any estrangement of feeling? A. No, liecause Mr. Saunby returrwd to America. Q. Who took his place 1 A. There never lias been a foreign missionary there since he left; we had Japanese ones. Mm. Lamiilv — This lady said they went about establish- ing Sunday Schools and pieaching services. A. I did not >:iy exsctly that. I said wo established charity schools, and in connection with those we had Sunday Schools and prtNiching places ; that is, our building furnished a preach- ing place. t^. Who preached there 1 A. The General Society — sour preachers. Q Native preachers ? A. Yes, sir. The Ciiaikman— Had you any hall or public room there? .\. Our schoolroom. Dr. Sutiikhlank — In a native building! A. In one place we have our own Ijuilding. Mil. Kkttlkwki.1, — May I ask whether this witness' "piiuon is that the work of the Sunday School led to any personal estrangement ( A. None whatever. 1>H. T. U. W'li.LiAMS — I would liki' to ask if there were iny other efforts made to obtain control over tlie schools (ir the Woman's Missionary work than this nnitter of re- porting the Sunday Schools in the general Church work I Anything else that gave you to suppose that tlio mission- .•rics wished to obtain control over your work any further than reporting these schools as you have said ! .\. Well, in connection with my held in Kanazawa there was only one other tiueslion that ever came up, and that was in connection with our passports. 1 do not know that this comes up here at all. Thk Ciiairu.\n — Does it touch the question of personal alienation? Dr. Suthrrland — That is a question where Mr, Haunby was concerned again 1 A. Yes, sir. Dr. T. 0. Williams— I understand her to say that she complains of no other efforts made by thp miasionaries there to obtain control of the Woman's Missionary work save this determination, or desire, or demand to have the Sunday Schools of the Woman's Missionary Society re- ported to the District meeting as Church Sunday Schools A, I think that was all. That is all I know of, except the passport question. Dr. Ryckman— Did not she gay that Mr. Saunby wished to bring the women's schools under the control of the Church Sunday School Committee 1 A. I said that. TiiK Chairman — Now, Mrs. (iarge, are there any other instances of this character 1 Mrs. Laroe — Miss Hargrave spoke of the matter of passports. Dr. Sutherland said that did not come up here. Dr. Sutherland— I merely made this remark, that that was a little matter with Mr. Saunby, and as he is out of the Mission altogether and not returning, I supposed that whole thing had dropped, and there was no more to be heard of it. The Chairman — Still, it may have irritated. Dr. Sutherland — I have no objection to its being hear -,idd hear from Miss Cunningham. Miss Cunningham had .i talk with .Mr. Saunby, and it was not all a pleasant one. Mr. Saunby placed Miss Cun- ningham in a ve-y unhappy posiiion. Her home, I may sa}', was in Mr. Sunby's house at this time. We hud no home I'ltablished then. He gave her to understand that she might speak elsewhere tor her passport, that he did not wish her services in his school, and of course that meant that she could not work in connection with the church. Foreigners are not regarded as pastors of the church there. 138 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1806. Mini Ounninf;liani did not know wlikt to do, nnd ihn in soiiiu wiiv tliuu)i(lit of K<>inK to tliH I'l-fHliytxriaii cliuroli fur a pa«8purt. Wliy hIic did lliikt I do not know. Mr. Suiinhy, wliHii lie lidHrd that, said tliiit if hIih did any dui.'li tIaiiK li« would e.\pr inaiiiipr, and »\u' trird to urran^e iimtti^rit ho that If poiisll>l« mIii* could ooiitinUH. JuHt what piKsed hi-twccn horitflf anr the paHs|K)rt tliroiiit. tj. .\m you had seconded this motion I thought probably you would undurataiid the beating of it) A. I knew at the time. C^. .\g far as you know they did not really insist upon your taking up lines of work dilTorent from what yinir Womaii'g .Missionary Society wished you to take up, and therefore interfering with your work f A. No. .Mu. DoNi.v Did yon report Mr. Haunliy 'a demands to the Council, or to \\r». I^arge -what hr asked you to do in the way of teaching 1 A. Well, I said it was Miss Ciiiiniiigham who was there at the tirst. After 1 went to Kanazawa there was nothing to repeiident upon Mr. Saunbv for your piuisport, and for that passport you had to do a certain amount of Knglish teaching, and it was only with regard to the aiiiount that you dill'ered 1 A. Yes. Mu. lifUNKY — I move that the Committee rise. (Seconded and (tarried.) 'I'liK (JiiAiHMA.v— And when we meet I think there should Ih- a general stati-inent of the whole matter by .Mrs. Large. I think we had lietter take that next, Du. lM?il I am very reluctantly compelled to ask leave of absence frini this Hoard. Public duties require me to be in Now Hrunswick to-morrow. I regret excoe() of this Review I find at the top of the pa'^e, in the left Inind column, " Miss liar grave re|K)rled the state of things in Kanazawa," eli'. (Heads paragraph.) Now, 1 would like to ask .Miss Jl.ii- grave what Mr. Saunby threatened to ex|)08« in the Council ] We have heard of no serious trouble over there yet between our agents and yours. What did he threaten to report the Council for? A. I don't know. 1 know nothing beyond what I gave this afternoon, t^. You did not hoar the threat, and you know notliiii^ about it. It .says .Miss Hargrave reported the state n( atlairs and told about this threat of Mr. Saunby to expn-e the Woman's Council. A. Mr. Saunby threatened so m do, but what he meant tu expose I don't know. Tim; Ciiaikmav -He did make a threat of that kind in your hearing, did het The ijuestiou is, did he use tliut language to you? A. Not to me. This was to .Miss Cuiiiiingham. .Mu l-AMHi.v -Then you appear to add to your Minutes of Council, or it is added, that there is a feeling ainiint; some of the men of rights which are tlieirs which you liiiil failed to give thi'iii. Do you reun^iuber or do you kin.vv what rights they claimed which your Council failed to give them that were a cause of irritation I A. That is in connection with Mr. Crummy, where lie said we were not working in harmony, because the Chuir- nian of the District had not full control. PROCEEDINOH RE JAPAN AFFAiHS. 130 till) Council I fed itself into «use the Clunr Q. Theio rigliti referred to the Sunday Bohool buginoii, I pr«iiUNi« 1 A. Yi'S. TllK OllAiliMAN— Now, will Mrs. Ur«e proceed I Mum. HTiiAcilAN-ltffore hIh' in culled, will you iillow iiio to niutlify a iitiieenientt I wuh itHked liow nmiiy i)f our iiiiii' aionaries were nt lionm on iiccount of tluwe dilhcultieit, nnd I answered only one. 1 hIiouUI liuve anid live. Tlicie .ire live now in Canada who would hiive lieen iit work in Japiin but for ihia. Mh. AlKlNN— Do 1 underHtaiid from Mii. Stracliiin that they lire here directly ah the r«8ult of the dillioultii'H, or only incidentlyl Are tlic ditlicnllieB the direct cause, or only the incidental cauHe of their liein^ lirre I Mhm. Htkai'HAN — One ih here l>y oOicial iiclion, nnd the other four are hero an a rcHult of the complications and the ditliculties. Dli. HUTIIKKI.AND — Perhaps we had better ^et clear on that point. 1 will ask through you, Mr. President, is it not the case that tliiKO four Iniliew, in the (irst iristance, are home on furlough in the ordinary way I A. Yen. t^. Hut that the reason tliey are not returnill^ to their work in Japan isowioK to tliesii coinplicutioMH I A. Yes. Mrs. Large is now called and makes the following state- ment ; Mk. Pbesii)E\t--I had not the slightest idea of making a statement ol any kind before tins lloaid. When Dr. Sutherland asked uie to \m present, it was to answer any questions that might throw light upon this subjcict, but it seemed to nie tliis afternoon that perliaps a short statement from the time 1 weot to Japan luiglit help mat- ters. I went to Japan in the year lHf>.'i. Miss (Jartmell then was the only representative of the Wuman's Missionary Society. l-)r. iMivcdonald, l>r. (.'oolnaii, Mr. \\ liittington and Dr. Kby were the missionaries of the tleneral Society. Within a week of my arrival there tlie memliers of the Woman's Mission met in mission meetings with the agents of the (Jeneral Hoard. We met once or twice between that and the following February- -the l''elirnary of IHSti. in the summer of IHH") Miss ''..rtmell's health broke down entirely, and in Septem' .r, after less than liiilf a year in the country, I found .ry ilf with the bunlen of the whole work. The schoo' mid grown from twenty-seven to over lifty. Miss Oartmell was sent to the country, and .Miss Maud Cochran came in to help in the work. At (Jhrist- nias time Miss Cartniell was still unable to do anything, and Miss Cochran, who up to that time had been doing some little teaching in the boys' school, cann^ into our school and helped in the « ork there, giving all her lime. In Fel)ruary we had a Mission meeting, and I was very much surprised by having Mr. Wbiitington call me to account for taking away one of his teni'heis without con- sulting him. H'fore I had an oppcirl unity lo reply to Mr. Whittington, Dr. Cochran very kindly took the nnitter up and explained the situation. That was the last time that we ever met with the gentlemi-n in Mission nu'tting. We received no notilicalion after that of any meeting. The work of the Woman's Missionary Society was at that time contineil to the school. We had no legular meeting of our own. We talked matters over, and when ollicial letters were written it was wo think so and so, until in Sept' tuber (jf 1M8H, when 1 felt that the responsibility that was laid upon ine wag pretty hea\y ; that the other ladies wlio had come into the Mission had a right to a sh.ire of the respon sibility, and that we could not do belter tlian follow the example of the gentlemen who had fornnd a ('onnci! of '.In-ir own. I m.ay say that when the t'onni'il of llie (ieneral Board was fornnd there wjis no place yiven us at all. The work went on until the year ISilO, when 1 relumed to Canada. I hud expected to sever my conneo- lion with the Woman's .Missionary Society in June of 1890, but owing to circumstances of wliiiOi you are aware, and on the advice of Dr. Macdonald 1 desired to return to Canada for a year's rest, ami Dr. Macdonald strongly advised my return to tiie lield if 1 could. 1 knew the ladies in the Mission expected me to have the work in June of 1890. and so 1 laid the matter before them, telling them of Dr. Maedonald's advice, and sayin« that unless the ladies desired it 1 would not feel bke returning, or 1 would not return as the aaent of the Woman's Missionary Society. Their reijuest tor my return was unanimous. In the spring of 1891 I received a letter from Mis.i Lund, telling nie of a slight dilliculty between herself and Dr. Kby in the Taimrnaele, when Dr. Kby tirst asked for help from the Woman's Missionary Society. Later on 1 received a letter from Miss Wiiitemute, in which she told of ditlicullieu that they had had. She referred to them incidentally. I was not informed as to what the real diHiculties were, except that tlie-e were dillicullies between the two Councils, or dittic'lties in some parts of the work, I should say - not between the Councils. 1 returned in August of 1891. Miss Wintemute met me at Yokohama, anil told me that Miss Cushing, who had been with Dr. Kby, had applied to be taken on us an agent of tho Woman's Missionaiy Society. Our annual meeting wa« on tho 3rd of September, I think, and the day Ijeforu that annual meeting Dr. Kby called, and in the presence of Miss Lund ami myself he laid before us for our Council meeting, or annual meeting I should say, the claims of the Taliermicle for women's work. I had oidy just returned. T knew little or nothing, 1 may say, of the T'abernacle work, and I replied, " I will lay your request before our meeting tomorrow." Dr. Kby pre.ssed us again for a more detinite assurance, and 1 repeatsd again, " Our meeting will be to-morrow, Doctor, and we will lay your request before that meeting ; " ami it was at that time that the statement in the Ueview of this Japan trouble was made by Dr. Kby, " I do not wish this to be considered as a thieiit, but if you do not give me what I want 1 will apply to other Missions." Ukv. Dr. Suthehlanu — Was that it? " Apply toother Missions I " MuH. LAKiiP, — Klsewhere. Kiev. Dit SuTiij'iiiLANi) — I understood he meant he would apply to the Ueneral Hoard. Mils. Lakiik — No; it was not that; it was to other Missions, by implication. Miss Cushing had been asso- ciated with Dr. Kl)y for some six months in the work in the Tabernacle. When the Band dissolved she was left without any work to do, without any home, and no means of support, in delicate health. It seems that during that summer of 1890, while the ladies were in the country. Dr. Ki^y had talked to them about his work. lie said he hoped they would take Miss Cushing into the Woman's Society, and send Miss Cushing with another lady to live in Ilongo, and Miss Wintemute, who made the statement to me, said, " We told Dr. Kby that would never be agreed to." At that same annual meeting one evening session was occupied entirely by the ladies. 1 was not present at it, as the subject they were taking up was the result of what had occurred while 1 was away, discussing some dif- ficulty that there had been in Shizuoka, where Mr. Cassidy claimed that the ladies were in the wrong, and as the result of that session an apology was sent to Mr. Cassidy, staling that the mistakes made had been through misunderstand- ings on both sides, I believe, or that they deemed mistakes had been made on both sides as to the powers of each. It was decided .it this annual meeting of 1891 to establish a Bible school -i the district of Kakegara Clio, not very far from Dr. Kby s Tabernacle, and to send two ladies to live there and carrv on the work ; but until arrangements could be made, the Bible school was opened in Azabu, in our girls' school. J :;ic;y say that in the spring of 1891, before my return '.o Japan, I received a letter from Miss Wintemute tellirg nie she was preparing a plan for the better organization of the Womun'.s work. She gave me a few outlines of the plan, and she said she intended to lay it before the annual meeting in September. 1 wrote back saying that I thought before such a plan as that was brought before our Council it ought lo be submitted to tho agents of the General Hoard : that we, at le.ist, ought to have their voice on the subject. When I arrived in Japan Miss Wintemute told me that this had been submitted to M r. Cassidy and Mr. Saunby ; that they appi oved of it ; that the other members of the Council had only just come in, and wore hardly competent to judge in tho matter, and that Dr. Macdonald had a cepy of this document in his hands. Before our annual meeting Miss Lund and Miss Wintemute interviewed the Doctor as to his opinions, and Dr. Mai donald's reply was something like this: "If you intend lo establish a separate Church and ordain your 140 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1895. own workci'i, th«ti t think it ii n cnpititl nun ; liUt if you ilitniiil til wiirk ill ooiiiuM'tiiiii wl(|i tii« Ji.;iitii ('liiiiuli, willi our MftliiiiliHt ('liiii'i'li, llirii I tliiiik tlitt you liiivw j^ootl d(<«l of iiikrIiiiiiM'y tliiit roiilil li«> duiiii without." Tiiiii reply »iui nut r('|iort(*il in full to om- nnnuitl iiu'i>tiii|{. The plan witH diiieuiiiiKil niiil iti'icpteil or rei'iiiiiiiiniKlrd to M Inid liefiii'i! thn llimrd nt honii', nnd in tlin ini'iiiitiiiix our Udii'H wiirit to try to wiirk on it. Krfoii' N<» Ynnr of 181)2 arrived, I liad riictnved Icttcni from ihti tlircn outside ■tntionn— enoh hmi writtiMi iniliviiluiilly without oonaultik tion with the othem miking how we were )(et!ini( on in Tokyo with our new plniiH, " U'euiiHe, " they euoh wiid, " I cannot nmke it work," itnd our hiilieH in Tokyo liad found the uiine tliiiiK. AIko, U-foie thn end of the yeiir urrivtHJ, the end of IStH, there wivt ii ehitnKe in fiwlin^^ ainonx the ludiei willi re)(iird to wheru the llilih< aohcKil should lie. It wni felt that to iRtitlilihh ik nelioul in lloiig.i wiih ^oing to enll for n Inr^er exiienditure Ihun we weiild lii' jiiautied in aikini( from the Wonniii'ii Miinionnry So iety, I'onMideniig the itmount timt we eould reiuioniiiily expect to have for our work in ;rave came in from the country, nnd aiikeil nii' for an inlerprelation of the word "harmony," an laid down in the Uiscipline. I (te.ve her what I thought wan the interpretation of it, but iaiil, " .Mm. (ioiHlithaiu is here, and f would advise you to ask that at the dinner talile liefore everyliody, and then we will nil get the Ix-netit of .Mrs. tlfxMh'rliani'x opinion." MIhh llargrave did sn. and .Mrs. (iomicrhanrH opinion coincided willi mine. Then Mi»s llarunive told uiH of the conxerKation with .Mr. (Viimniy that hIio has already repented to you, and it was llif lirht indication that I had had that there whs any diK.siitiHfacti(in. Hut again let nie go linik. At the annual im-eting of 1H91, just after my return from C.iimda, .Miss (,'unnini;hnm laid bi-fore the ladies the ipiestion of the amount of time nhe ■hould give to Mr. Snuiiliy's school in Kana/.awa. She Ukid she had talkinl witli Mr. Saunliy alwiut it liefore leav- ing, had told him how her woman's work was giiiwinu', and how ii was iinpossilile for her to give from four to a (pinrt<>r after live in the afternooii to his scIkhiI, and lie aide to do very much in the afterniMm after faking that right out of the middle. .She said Mr. Saunhy seemed ".o n^jree to what she said, and then she read a Iett4-r that .Mr. Saunliy had nddnssed to her, and asked her to lay liefore ilie Council, thanking us fur the woik that .Miss ('iiniiiiigham had done, and asking for an incnnse of time. .Miss ('iinningliam Hitid, " I caniiut iinrease my time and do justice to iiiv own work, and 1 would like tiii.s (council to tnke action." Action was taken. I had nothing ••lintever to do with it. 1 had resohed to keep silence, and I did not take in what the situatiiui really was after lieiiig alisent a \enr. Miss Cunningham left for Kaimzawa. 1 wiks aiillioriznl to notify Mr. Saiinhy of the change in time, and »o state the reasons. Immediately, and iw ipiickly us imssible after Mr. Saunliy could have rei'ei\ed the letU'r, came the answer that you were given this afternoon : " 1 will not reijuire Miss Cunningham's services any longer in my school ; you will kindly take immedintn ste|is to procure her pa-sspni-t from some other source.'' I did not know what to do. The letter was sent around to the other ladies of the Mission, and in the ineHniime a letter caiin' from .Miss Uuiihiiigham in which she made reference to what Mr. Httunliy had told her; that when she arrived he asked her what sill' was going to do. lie told her of his lettvr, and Bskod her what she was going to do, and she said, " I do not kiio* what ! can do, except to ask the ladies of the Presbyterian school about a passjiort ki<- me ; ' and it wag then Ihnt Mr. Saunby made the stateiiienl that Miss liar- grave gave this afternoon. A deputation waited upon lis in the summpr of 1892. The depuUtioii was the llev. Dr. Cochran, the Rev. Mr. Cassidy, and the U.v. .Mr. ("rummy. The resolution that was sent us is in the printed doo removed to aoine other point." The letter was drafted, and I, as the Secretary, of course had to seneen laid before our ladies with- out any consultation with Dr. Macdonald at all, and it waH partly iMtcaiise of this that I advisml Miss Wintemuto to lay carefully liefore the inoinlieni of the (leni'ral Hoard her plan for the reorgani/.ation of the work. On my return in KS9I I ndvised the likdies very strongly to tnke some action by which any applications for work might have the autho rity of the (Council of the (Jenoral Iloanl. And I drafted the two resolutions that are on page 5.5 of the ilocument that you have, and that are now omboilied in the Discipline on page l\K>, I think. The tirst resolution states that any agent of the (ieneral Itoard desiring to lay plans of now work before the Woman's t'ouncil was to lay it before their own Council tirst. "Moved by Miss Muiim, seconded by Miss Hiackinore, That we will not conrider pro{>ositionr, for opening new lines of work from theagenta of the Uenei-nl Hoard unless said pro(>ositions have received the approval of the Council of the (ieneral Hoard, and are sent to u^ through the Secretary of the same ; and that a copy of this resolution )>). The Hrst one I thought would lie a safe guard for us. The M>cond one I thought would Iw an ussur ance to the brethren that we did not wish to work independently of them entirely, and also would l>e an assurance to the Hoard in th^ homo land. This wn^ returned to us with a notification that the gentlemen did not understand it. Dii. CiH:iiitAN — If the chairman would permit nietosay. half of the resolution was sent, and it was not understaml able. I was in the (jouncil ; but when we got the whole of the resolution we understood it. Mils. La ho k -The resolution was sent as I have read it. Dk. Cociikan— It was not so received in our Council. Miu*. LaR(ik —I can only repeat what 1 miid. Dii. Coi'iiRAN -And when we conversed with the ladies in Karuizawa as a deputittion, we for the first time, a< three inemliers of Oouncil, understood what the resolution was. We got the whole of it then. Mils. Lahiik — The resolution as read is the resolution an it was sent through me to the Council of the General Boanl At the deputation' in Karuizawa, Mr. (Jassidy explaincl their returning it by saying that they considered it a snub. Mr. Lamui.v -Have you hii letter to that eflectl Mrh. I.,aror— It was stated at the deputation. It was verbally stated. The Minutes of that meeting are in tin' [tossession of the Corresponding Secretary. ■ *'V'.'^'''Tf!W>r:xT-i^'^ I'HOCEEDINUS UK JAPAN AFFAIRS, 141 Mh. noNI.Y— To whom wan Idr rMolulioii nddirnMil / Mbh. I.AHt»iiil tlii'iu, or tlii-y nn\ not iimlcr- nUlxlnlilu. That i», tlin wor.l im in tlin" iiliiiiil. 'I'licro wure only two niwiliitioiii in miy cum', and tlm ri'cord I not of it Wtw tliHt "they " WITH I'l'dirncd hh not iindfrKluiidHhli'. It WHii not tlmt "it" WBH riliiriind iii not undiTHtunduble, hut " thpy " wure mlurnid «h not unilitralandHlile. I>K. ('oniliAN -Only one wuh Hcnt iih. I Hi. Hi,TiiKiii.ANU Wiiut I wiint to K«t lit ii why iii t)w reply thny wnre rufi-rrt'd to in t\w plural. Dh. T. G. VVici.lAMH— Who tent you thr rnply from which you urn (pintinK I Ok. SuTllKiiLASii — I am NpcnkinK f''""' ni'iiiory, hut I think ft li'ltfr from thiiChiiiriimn of tlii' I'ouncil ; that in |)r, Mni'donakl, And in noni- of tho lotti'iN, nor in uny corrMpi'nili'iiL'O I got, wuh ihi'ro any refeii'iicr at any time to onii r«>Rolutioii voiiiiiif; when tlicre Hhould Ioim' hi'itn two, and getting knowhilKe of the othi'r reHoliition aftiTward:). (»f courio that may liavn licen |nircly iin dm rKi^lit, and tlic thing may havn happ<>ni>K. T. ii. Wll.l.lAMH— U that Icttpr not accesiiible to thn Secretary now 1 Mb. (JAhHinv — I can vouch for what Dr. Cochran has ■aid, We novcr got those two togi'tlicr. Mn. Mai'I.aiikn I think you nhould a.'tk Mrs. Largo what reaolutinn came hack to her. Mmi. Lahiik — The coniniunication from Dr. Mucdminld I have not in my liandN. .MIsh Mart »i\\n this in the only refori-nco. The oHlcial pnpers are all in Tokyo, with thn vxc<>ption of thia Minute hook. This was at the annual nieuting. Thia '\» an iihatract from tiie Minutes of the annual meeting uf l^l)L\ when Mrs. (iooderlwtm and Mrs. Htrauhan weiM present. The Secretary cxplaini d for the sake uf thi.80 not present at our m.'eting of Septenilier Ilrd, IHi)l, why the communication was sentio the Council of the (ieneral Hoard, also referring to its heing leturiud to us as not understandalile. This was not when it was returned. Hut thil ia the only reference to it that we can find. It wan when Mn, Uuoderliani aaki^d regarding the communi- catiun of the intention of a de|>utation to wait upon us, if any of the memliers of the Council knew what misunder- Hlandings there were in evangelistic work, and then in connection with that it eay-", '' the Secretary explained for the sake of those not present at our meeting of September .Ird, 1891, when these two rcBolutioiiN were passed, why this conimunication was sent to the (Jouncil of the (ioneral Hoard ; ahe also referred tu its heing returned to us aa not iinderatandAhle." Dk. Situ Kill. AM) Allow me to read the lirst of llie»e resolutions; "Moved l>y Miss Munro, secondid by Miaa Hlaekmore, That we will not consider propositions," and Bfc on. (Heads resolution referred to.) The lirst thing that naturally strikes one is a complete bewildermc.it as to what there is in thia resolution that could not be underitood. It seems to be as plain as A H t'. The ne.\t thing is, that the second resolution does not throw any light upon the tirat. And how, therefore, they understood it when they got the second resolution, and did not under- stand it when they got the first, 1 am puzzled to see ; yet, there may Ih> an explanation of it. Tli« second one i.s : "That henceforth all plans for new lines of work, ' and so cm. (Keadg resolution referred to.) That does not seem 111 throw any light upon resolution No. I. 1 cannot vet understand why it was that resolution No. 1 was not underitood by the Council. Mk. KiiouKV Is thei-e any indication that No. H was sent to the Council at all t Dr. StiTiiKlil.ANK - I understood Dr. Clochran to say as ^ioon as they were informed what No. 2 resolution was, they understood the whole thing. Du. Cot'liUAN— It is this. It was an unfoitunato mis- mulorstanding this way. There came to our Council a I'oinmunioiitiou from the ladies. It liiwl some of the words of that Hrit resolution, but an important clause was left out, and thus, innimpd and imperfect, we could not under- htDiid why it nah sent l« lis. When the deputation arrived ill Kariij/.awa and (his matter was called up, the renolution III you have it now was lead Iroiii the book by the Secre- tary of the lailiex' llouril, and it wiiii to us a new thing. We understood it then. If we had hiid it in our t'ouncil as it ii put llitre, there would have been no iniauiider- stamling. Dli. PoriM Then It was a clerical error I Dh. StTHKiii.ANii That tlii'oWH light upon the whole situation. Dli, CiiriiiiAN 1 merely make the explanation without any animus whatever, but simply to cb^ar the atiiiospliere, as it is around our own iiiinda, in regard to tluii inalter, Du. T, tJ. Wll.l.lAMH When he eiiiiie buck with that imperfectly worded leHolution that resolution which had an important portion of a senleiice omitted — that was lier- fectly clear, as soon as it was inserted ; was the attention of the ladies eaili'il to that verbal omission I Dli. CoriiiiAN It was at that time, and in that meeting. Mm. Lmhik .May 1 a»k Dr. Sutherland a questionl llttio you the .Minutes of the meeting of the Council of the (leneial Heard when these iiommunicatioiiN were teiitl This is the liriit time that 1 ever understood the explanation of why that coiiiinunication was returned. Wo wore told they could not understand the conimunication. We were tobi at the deputation that there was soinelhing wrong in the wording ot it. I never understood until this present moment, since Dr. Cochran has explained it, that some- thing was left out. Have yon the .Minutes of that meeting I Dr. SiiTllKlil.ANli - I received the Minutes of the Mission Council, and from them everything that ap[M>ars in this document this slatenient of mine — as to the action of the (Jouncil is taken. A day or two before leaving Toronto I gave personal and strict insliuctions that these Minutes should be put in with the other papers, because we would want tlieiii in this in .'cling. When the trunks came to he opened .Mr. Shiinnon tells me that these Minutes were not to be found. I inimedialely sent him to wire up to Toronto to send those Minutes by mail or express, and the telegraph iiiini's from the voung lady in the otlice that she cannot liiid the Minutes of the Mission t'ouncil. They appear to have been laid aside with the intention of putting them in tlia trunk, but tbey were not |iut in. She cannot lay her hands upon ilieiii there, and therefore 1 am unable at this stage of the proceedings to biing those Minutes and to show just what was the rcc.nd of the Mission Council. Dh. Coi iiiian I ouuht to apologize for interrupting the lady, but 1 really made the statement I have made in the intisests of acciiraiy. I lio|ie that this interruption will not at ail break the statement that Mrs. Large is making TiiK Ciia;iiman It seems you came to Canada to under- stand what you did not understand in .lapan. 1)11. CdCiiiiAN I und-rstnod it there, Mr. Chairman. Mn. Mailaiikn - 1 would like to know from Dr. Suther- land whether the lesolutio.i which be has quoted at page ."1.") was not largely compiled from thn Minutes of our .Mission Council I Dii. SiTiinni.ANli You mean the two resolutions that are iio« under consideration I A. Yes. Mil. Hdksi-s I do not know that it would be of service to have the r. 'oids of the Mission Council, because if there WttH a pordon of this resolution left out it must have bceii by the person who transcribed and forwarded the resolution. You would iiave to have the original document that was forwarded to prove that there was anything left out of that resolution. Dli. StiTiiKiil.ANii — Of course 1 have never had that TllK CliAlllMAN .\s I iinderstaiul now, Mrs. Large and Dr. (,'oclinin seem to agree that there was a possibility of misunderstanding at the time. Mis. Largo says that now for the tirst time she comes to learn that there was a clerical ei ror. 1 do not know just how I hey still reel about it ; but ihey seem to me each to exonerate the other in a sub8ei|Uont statonieut of any hard feeling because of the fact that a mutilated resolution wont to the Council. Dli. CodiiiAN —A mutilated resolution came to our Council. It was sent back because we could not under- stand it. When the deputation met the ladies in Karuizawa some weeks or moiulis afterwards, I cannot say how long, the resolution us it stands on the Minute book of tho Ladies 142 ''• .NERAL HOARD OK MISHloNH, IMltfl Mifitnn wm ro«fl. Wp n»co((nln mi nl.tliil l<; tlif luilii'i >t tlllkt tllllH. Mh. M «ci.aiikv — Who w«r« tlip l*ili>.« |>rK«»>iit I l>u. ('oi'iiia!* Mr«. LnrKf, Mm. (Iinxli-rliain, Mm. Htntvhiiii, Hiul iiiaiiy of tlm litUli-n lit'rit hitk |ii'a«iiil iit that A Mk.miikii Will Dr. C/oohrnn tf>ll iii whnt word* w«ra oiuilliMl I l>ii. t'iM'iMiAN--lt w«H •oiiip part of a Mintxiiuf. A Mk^iikii— Hiir»ly, ymi iliould kimw whnt lh'>y wprw. l)U. (Nm:iihan — I iliil iioi chitrui' my iiu-iiiory with lhi'»p thiiiK*. It in a long tiiiio itiiiri', but I have a vnry iliatinct noolltfctioii that whi-ii I hium;il it ■miuiihI II thing that wii I'oiilil not uiiilfriitanil. Miit whiMi I heani it rxail from th« Miiiiiti' IxHik of thp Imlirn' Oouiiiil at Kai'uiziiwit. in tlm [iraM-nco of the Inilifii niul the dxpula- tioii, it WBH not the Hainii thins; that wa4 lent to ui. It waa fuller ; it waa oxpliuit. Dii. SrTiiKHi.ANii -Dill you tell thmn to then and th«rel l>li. <'o<'iiiiAN - We dill. 1 havi' II dintinct rn-oili'otion of aaviiiK- " ^f w li'^'l luul tliiit rxitolution ax you rend it now we would noi hitvt* anni it back to you." Mhh. (iooiiKitli \m I am uiii' of nix Audit's [irnitent hrrn who weif lit that mentiiiif. 1 diatinctly iiiii>Hiiibly innke Klips of that kind when speaking merely from ineiiiory Two persons' memory of the saiii statement or the saini- fiict may widely dill'er from each other, and yut they may lie Injth perfectly truthful as to their recollection. .Mil. IIktth -t)no olaimii that they remember, and the other rIaiiiiB that they do not reuiemlier. I»«, T. m I thought there was something els«< mid with reiereiice to its not lieiiig understiMid, mentioned at I hat meeting I .Mas. l.tHiiK -Thry said thnn that they did not under stand it, certainly. Mil. Mai'lkan It would \m natural on tlm receipt of those leaolulioni, when retiirnml by the Counnil, for you to compare the copy sent thcni with your Minuies and ascer tain why ihey were not understandable. Was that compariHoii iiiiule I Mns Laiuik No, sir ; it wi\s not. 1)11. Mailkan Was the copy sent to the Counoil pre sorviil I Miis. LABna — It was. I cannot tell you whether it is in existence now. The pafiers w.-re all left in ifapikn. TllK, ('iiAliiMA.N l»o you say that Mr. Cassidy used those wiirils, that it was not nnderstood, and yet that II was Kent as a snub I Mils. I.AiiiiK I cannot tell you which one of the gentle men naid they were not understotHl. TiiK CiiAiiiMAN -You cannot tell which one said that, hid .Mr. I'ansidy iis«i those words I Mils. Laiuik I cannot tell you whether it waa Mr Cassidy, or .Mr. ('riiiiimy, or l>r. Cochran. TiiK CiiAiiiMAN That they were sent as a aniibl Mks. Laiuik .Mr. Cassidy used that expression. I'll. Hm HMAN - I wish to ask the ()iiestion, if the reso lutioii that is under consideration in that fuiin pr«*cisely went to the .Mission Council and they returned it as not understiiMilalile ; I would like to know who ooiistituUnI the Council at that time that could not undunttand thote words that we have U'fore us. Uh Uouiiran Those wore not the words that the Council saw. I'll. Uyi'KMan -1 would like to know who the Council were that could not uiiderstiind those words. Who were tlieCounnl at that lime ( Tilt: CiiAiiiMA.N They say that those were not the words. I>ii. ItviKMvy— My point is thia : If these were the words thai went to the Cimncil, I would like to know what Council under the sun could not uiiderstanil them. I>K l!iili>08ed, and thai the C'oiincil returned it as notoapaldenf being iindoistood I would like to know who were the Council. Dr. Cochran was one. Was l>r. .Macdonald there 1 Dii. ('oi'iiiiAN — Yes : Dr. Macdonald was in the chair. Dr. l-iiiy was there, and .Mr. Saunby ; aiul .Mr. Whittington was a liiemU'r. Dii. Uyikman — |)r. Macdonald, Dr. Cochran and Mr Whittington I l>K. CoriiiiAN — No. Mr. Whittington waa not there. Mr. (Jassidy was there and .Mr. Saunby. Dk. KvrKM \n -Those |H-ople, putting their heads to gether. could not understand that resolution that it is claimed went to lliem in that form 1 Dii. Si riiKKUM) -Wo must try to be accurate in little matters as well as great. Itcturniiig it as not lieing under standable : What I have all along understood l>y that was, that they could not understand why such a resolution was 'Sent to them; not that they could not understaml what the reholuHon meant, or the meaning of the mere words III it : but they cimid not understand why a resolu tion of this character should lie sunt to them at all. Dh. Kyikman— They do not accept that interpretation at all. Dh. Cix'Hran I could not accept that. Mils. I.AHiiK I have made a misstatement. Tlm tirst n>soliitlon, "That we will not consider pro|Misitions for open iiig new lines of work from the agenta of the Uuneral Uoanl :-.*«*B(teRi.**- PKOCKKhlNCJS HH .lAI'AN AKFAIKH I4:< \t tliH Council rern not tlir iinlru Mtiil prn|HMl(innH Imvn rKinvml Ihn Kpproval iif (lin ('iiuiiuil of till' (liMiKritI IIoiimI, mill art- mmiI to na liy tlm Si'iTt-tiiry of tlio imnin , nn>l lliiit n n)|.y of llii* ri»«liitii>ii l«< ,..iil In till' M«.iT«>fmy iif tlii« Mixmim I'mitii'll of llir UimiimhI Hortril," wiw MMi) III Mfiili'iiilnT of INIH. At till' •iiiiiii iniionl iiim-tinB, H.|it«iiil«'rof |n'i|, tliHotlmr ri'^olutiuii, thn ,iiini(l ri-iH)liitino nil piiKK ti^ „t thi> Sci'ii'tur)'* lti'\i.<», wiw iiUo (iiiHHfil liy our I'miiiril, Imt *m nut lii tlirtt linn- si>iit to till' ('Oiiniil of lli»i(l< rill lloiiril. Tln'ii' h wlu'n- I lia\i' iiiiuin II iiiiMlntiMiicnt. 'I'lin itiitininit alionlil ImVK Immmi timt llic tint! ii'xciliilioii, on |iii)(i> .'(ft, wiit wmiI ikt lliikt tiiiif, iind ri'tiiriii'il to iia lot not iiiiilri'.iiiiiiUlilc I'lifn, (Ml Thnrmliiy, .Inly I Itli, |Hll-.> nftor llii< ilcpiitiition liiiil wiiiti'd n|Hin ii», lliiTi' JH till* iii-ni in oui Minnlri ■Moved liy MiHs lliii'ijriivc, M'lonili'd liy Mi« Mnnio, llnii ilii> Corrfi<|ion(lini; Si-fiftmy In- Miiilioriiiril to -.imhI » iupy to tliB Contiril of tin' .liipim Mission of tlm Mi-tliodist I'liuri'li of Citniidii, of till' niotiuiis |iii«^i'il ut llio ikiinnikl •tiiiKon Hc|)tctiilM I'liunril of tlif .lii|>Hn MinKion." 'I'licii, in tliitt wuv, l>r. 1 'iK'liriin'i (tx|iliination iimy lie iri'iivcd \Vi> wut llii> llrni ii'^olutinii, ikiid tliHy oonld not niidintliind it, Imt wln-n llii> un) nKolntioiiM wiTi' kImoi llivy lonid nndiTntiind ilicni Mil. lllKNTiH Miiy I iisk will) ni'ti'd iin H«tiiry I Who triinNrriliotl tliikt rosolniion 1 MliK. I.AIiiil'. I wiiH Sci ii'titry. Mk. !>i.'i "h Wiiit till- rniululion r« with tlic lirctlirnn tlial I tliniiiflit it huh immIv iindiT^tood." |)ll. HUTIIKKI.ANI) Tiny iii'K i|iiiii< 111 one in rryiird to iiiK! jMiiiit. It upiiciifH tiio rli'iir now tlnit only tlic toMl I. solution went in tin' lirst iiiHtunri', niid tliiit llni otiinr went ■onic tiniK uttrrwaiiU. Dk. Hvi'KMAn Hilt that docs not clear it at nil. TlIK ('llAlHMAN I llinik .Mr. ( 'asvidy's wonU c\[i|aiii tlie whole matter. " It was intciiilcd an a stnili." 1>H. T. (1. Wll.l.lKMs I nndi'islooil it was said lliat I)r. Mat'donald Haid in the ('innicil, when the reiioUition wiis under coniiideration liy tlirin. that he nnild not uiulerstand it. I uiulerHtood l>r. ('ocliran tn x.\y that. I>R. CiH'llHAN Oh no. I did not hhv that. I Miid that WIIH the reply Heiit liy the ('minril. |)K. T. U. WiLLIAMH — l>id l>r. Miiodonald dlKNent from I he reply 1 Ur. CuciiitAN I have no renillection. 'Ill f limy lie. I will not oontradirt that, I think the wordi " unless said proposals have received the approval of the Coiiiuil cif the (ieneral Itoiird" were Icl't out, and simply the woiils "sent to us through the Secretary of the same." That is uliont the resolution as it caiiie to us. I)n. Hi'TliKlil.AM" -Yon think that the words "unless said proposals have recei\ed the approval of the Council of the (leneriil Itourd " were h fl out I Mk. ClIIslioi.M That docs not chanye the sense any. I>H. ConiiuN I think that is a very inaterial part of that resolution. A resolution simplx (o open new lines of work from the nKeiits of the tlenenil lloani, and siiit liy ilic Secretary, etc , makes a very material diU'crcnco Miss Haur of IHil^; (wo Millie wiiiiien were estalilislied there to work iloiigo, a'd the t aii ChurcheN in Koinagoiiie and .Shitaya niinle tlm thiee. Miss Li/.zie Mart went two days a week and on Sunday to the work in llonjio. .She worked there until Decemlii r. She got, little or no encourii.'emeiit from |)r. I'/liy and his assistants. The .lapanese llililewonien felt that they were not taken into the syinpalliy of eithei the people or the workciH ; ainl in Decemlier .Miss Iji/./.ie llail was ri'iiioied friuii there. In this communication lieloiu V ' there is a letter from Dr. Khy, an extract of a letter Ills to the lieneral .Secretary of Missions, in which he says that the poor little ijirl was inellicient ; that she was getting more i;ood from lloiigo than she was gi\ iiig ; that the interpreter was poor, etc. (Uiads letter referred to.) I take it that this refers to Miss 1 1 ait. The liilile- woman was a widow of over thirty years of age, who hud lieen aHsiuneil to our school for over two years : had the tiaining of a Millie woman only, and hail woiked during those two years more or less. Sliss Hart had Jusi linihhed her third year in .Inpiiii. She was as successful a worker as we had. She w.'ts workini; in Shiiiiada, and I may say that during the time Miss Lix/ie Unit lind charge of tlio women's nieeling in .Shimada, it whs larger than at any lime in the history of our Woman's Missininiry .Society, except the time when there was a craze for crotcheting and knitting, when the women turned nut liy the scores to learn that. I would like liiitlier to hear this triliiite to .Miss Mzzlo Hart's work. I never saw more sincere regret than was evpiesscd at licr witlnlrnwal liy the peojiU' at Shimada, and the other places when she left for home. The pastors and evangelists testitied that she had even lieen helpful to them. This action, with reganl to lloiiyo Taliermicle, was lilamed on Mrs I.ar','e, though I had to sit in the chair, iind had only expressed my mind as one of the members of the Woman's Missio'iaiy Council in .Japan. The diHicultieg ill the Shizuoka school with Mr. Cassidy I know nothing aliout, as they occurred in ISilf) when I was out of Japan, The ililliculties in Kaimzawa I knew very little aliout, liecause ^lisn Cunningham said very little aliout them until all was past. Dii. Ciu'Iihan- While Mrs. Large is lookinc for that exiract she wishes to read, it iniglit throw a sidelight and relieve matters somewhat to e.xi>re88 an opinion of mine, fnU'ided upon some consiileralile olwervation and experience of the work, and it is this ; No ladies could have joined in the work with Dr. Khy and have conducfed work in the I'liliernacle except they liiiil tieen placed entiri'ly under his direction. It ]ierliaps did not seem suitable that iinents of Hie Woman's Missionary Society slioulil lie withilrawrv from the direction of the Council of that .Society and given exclusively to Dr. Kby's direction for the carrying: on of his work, and I think that was a source of the dilK culty. I believe that to l>e just the state of the case. Soi far as the lady workers are concerned they need no defence 144 GENERAL BOARD OF MlSSiONS, 1S05. from Rnv'xxly. None of the ladie' in that Mission were ineOk-ixnt. 'i'hv''!r work nlwiiys win n sucuega. Miw. Lakok. -I tlinnk Dr. Cochran very much for timt testimony, tmti I think the BtuU'mcnt ho has made very lar;;ely explains tlie Hjtualion. I think that perhaps in very iVw words I can hav tlie rest : The ditHoulties oon- tiniii>d. Kvi lylhin^ timt hiip;g put. I w:»H willing t( U'lir my own share of the blame of any mintakeii, an> wrong-doing, any unintentional lack of har- mony, tiling!) tiiat had been done (lerhapH without aH much thought as there sliould have been : but I was not willing to bear it all, bceause 1 happened to be in the position of Seen-tary of the Council of tlic Woman's Mission m Japan. There may Iw Munotliing that some of these ladies would like me to refer to. The.e may be some (|ue8tiom that sn;>\e of »lii' I'—itb-Juen miglit wisli to ask me with regani to some (if the statements made here as to the strife amou; the missidiixries, 1)11. I'oTTs -V ould Mrs. L.irge l)e good enough to tell us how it call)) to pit.s8 that nn-inbers of the (tHneral Missionary Soci 'ty and ;iirenta of the Woman's 8r. Potts, by just what I said iM'fore, that I liad ln-en so blumed fcr everyl'.ing, that HO iiiticli had been laid at my door, that I felt I could not stand any more. So often had my words been niis- repreagps ti:.' and O.'l if the Secre- tary s Ue\iew, v here you . 'fuswl t<> shake his liainl ! Then when he wrotr you a very Cliristiiiii letter, you shut him up aed would not receive any further comiiuinications from liini at ell, or allow him to make any furllier expla- nation. Mhs. I,\netween lis; during the summer of IS'.t:; mid l!»'.t:i 1 was calh-d in I am not a certiliid medical woman, iiut i am a sort of a ijuack, and I was culled 'ii sevt ral tiiiiea to prescrilje for .Mr. Klliott's cbildreh ib'fing the suiiiiiier inontlis. He called viie up at niglit mill (luring daytime. I si.nply state this to show the feeling that there was lietweeii us, and when it came to my ears, in .lime of Inst yeiir, that Mr. Kllioi* was one of six who were preparing an indictment against me, that, t(X), was more than I could stand, and ' spoke to Mr. Klliott as I did when he came into our house. When .Mr. Klliotls letter came to iiie, I read it to the rnoinlM'rs f f the Home. Tliere were li'-e or six present. One of 'lie ladies here to- nigiif, .\i(SR AlcAander, was pieseiit, They talked .ibout it. M'ss Cuniiingliam siiid she did not think that Mr. Klliotls iiieaning was nil above board. She did not approve of my SIT ling a reply. Toe others thought I should. I said, " l,ii(li'«, I will do just what you say about it. U you decide llial I had bi'Sler reply to it, I will submit my re- ply to you, and if ymi approve it shall be sent, and if not, destroyed." They agreed to il.::t. I wrote the reply an. I it was taken down lo ihe ladies in another room. 1 was not with theiii They read it tiny talked it over. Find then replied tlint tiiey lliou-l't it was a suitable leit<'r to send, and tlint no one (-ould pissilily see anything but a ri^ht spirit ill the w(,riU I bat I had written. Perhaps Miss Alexander will coirob.in.'e what 1 liavc; stati^l Mil I.vMiil.v lbtilied. Q. And could you carry those f««ling8 all the way to Japan, and exhibit them there? A. It was after the return. After we had been associat<-d in work for livi yejirs and a half, she returned on furlough. Q. Were these cards returned in Japan I A. Certainly. Q. Well, wlat was the attitude that she took towaril.< you to make jou feil thus hard of her'/ A. Her own letter to mo, in which she seated that she felt it necrasary to express her opinion very reely with regard lo me among the women, stating t!,e feeling among the (liken., the iiijustioe that I liiul done them ; anil she also wrot letters to other members, in which she said that these things occurret;- (Mrs. Coates) was one ot' those vlio re<|ueBted my return i,; lf<'.lO. and it seemed to nie tiiat if ihe 'k: " " I had been sr, bud with those lli.il had I .en assiK'iated wi'li me, that tlii~ was the 'iine whi'ii she should have expressed her feelii>g, and that she shoui.l not have asked for the return of one whose presence slii felt w IS go harmful. Q hid you reply to Mrs. Coates, to that letter, and explain to her that these things v cry not true, and try mid have a reconeilic.cion with her I A. No, I did not. 1 felt that it would not U' worth while to do it. (j. Then it appears you did not make any very str'ou- attempt to make up these little ipiarrels with those from whom you were estraiiged ( A. 1 did not write to Mi^-. Winteiiiute then at all. There is a point .Miss Hargnm wishes me to s|)e.'ik bImiuI in Mr. Elliott's letter that neeib explanation. t^. Tliat letter of Miss Wintemiite's, could that begot lieiv HO that we could see it I A. 1 do not know whetln i 1 have it or not. I can look for it. O Will you kindly sit) if you have it? A. May I s|M'ak about Mr. Klliott's statement with regnnl to the girl I Mr. I'^lliott says, " l^ast Kuuimer I called i- ask whether '/ler .tapanese servant,' etc. (refers to [lage 111 col. 1, of tliM Heview). Now, I would like to explain tli.i' the Japanese servant was a young girl 1 had adop' d the Ursir year that I went to .lapaii, or had taken to sii|> port. That was in 1885. In 1HH7 I took the responsi bility of her whole support as my ow: . Iiiiu, and she wii such until the day 1 left Japan, 'i'lie circumstances uiidi i whicli this occurred are as follows. There are sevenii presi'iit, i.:id Mrs. tloodeiham among the rest, who cii; iiear testimoiiy to this. Mr. Elliott came i>i;n mcrning. I' was in the suiiiiner vacation. We had fourteen peiiple m lur house, three of them being guests. We were ver\ ^-y. PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 145 believe those I tliat it hnd bu«>. There wu i. great deal to be done, and lohi, my Japaneee daughter, was Velping with the work. I think it was waahday. Mr. El iott came and said he had re- ceived a letter that he woulf' ike to have Ichi read. I hesitated a moment, and then I said, because I knew she lould not read very fast, " Very well, Mr. Elliott." Tlie letter was a long one, and it took a long time. After some time being upent in getting the meaning of the li'tter, because it is very hard, if you do not knew what the letter is about, to read it sometii les in Japanese. 1 stepped into the other part of the roow and said to Mrs. (iooderham, " I do not know what to do ; Ichi really ought to bo at her work, it is tal ing ■x good deal of time. What hIiaU I do 1 If she rep ih this letter for Mr. Elliott it is Koing to put us behin ' so with our work ; " and then I went back, and said to Mr. Elliott, " Ichi has work to do ; lould you not go to Nir. Saunby / We are very busy, and Ichi has her work to do. Could you not take it to some- nne else to read 1 " I might state that tiiis girl had all the reading of the Japanese letters, una writing of them, to do at this time for seven peopi i. That is my statement of this matter. Mr. Lahblt — Then, do you contradict the truth of this statement, " and nothing more '' ? Mrs. Larob — I think there are others here who can testify to it. May I ask some of the ladies to testify to the tr'jth of my statement 1 Mr. Maclarkn— I will call your attention, Mr. Chair- man, to something th-vt I think ought i,ol)e e.xplained. Thif letter was writte.n in 1894. It said last summer, 'Mrs. Labor- -That is a mistake. -Mr. Maclar':n — Mrs. Oooderham was not there in 189.1. Mrs. Large- It vas 1U92. Mr. MACLARKy — You mean M'' Elliott is a year out ( Mrs. La rob— Yes. Mrs. Ooor)KRHA.M — I think if those incidents were i.o important as to be written out here to Canada that at least they should have beer, a little more accurate. This ci"-- I'lmistance occurred while we were up on the iiiountain.s. I remember very well Mrs. Ijirge comin? in. We had been all on a little trip while they were moving up to the nioun- t tins, and '.t was necessary for them to take everything from Tokyo that this large household would use up on the mountains for a month or two. It involved ii good deal of expenditure of strength, and at this time a great deal de- volved upon Mrs. Large ; not only ■, Viut she was out of health and wis under the doctor .s orders. Hut she had several visitors. Mrs. Strachaii and I were theri^ Mrs. Straohan's brother took his meals there and slept outside. She had also the two little children of .Mr. Iloskin, who had been advised to leave on account of ill health. TIktc was a large household. I remember very well .Mrs. Large saying, " Mrs. Gooderhau), 1 do not know bow it is that everyone that wants anything dime comes here." I was sitting at the other end of the room. There was only one large room. I saw Mr. Klliutt come in at the other door, and she said, "Now .Mr. Klliolt wants Ichi to read a lette. , ninething alx>ut a servant that he wants, in .lapanese, and Ichi has read this letter. Now, Mr. Saunby has two ser vants, and they have no one in their house compared with what I have in this house." She was also preparing for I lie Council meeting, to have it while we wei-e up there. I .just mention this thing to show how busy she was and iiiiw busy everyone was there. She said, " 1 do not know l>iit what he wants Ichi to answer this letter." ft appears a copy of this letter that was writiin was not sent to Mv>. Large, but a copy was sent to .Mis. .'-^ radian and a copy to I Ir. Sutherland, I did not attach mucIi weight to it. I thought it was a funny letter for any man in senil out. I liave heard it said that when a man gets a snub from a woman he will usually keep i|uii't, but here is a howl that in heard on two continents. These are not my words. These are the words of a man. If I should inenlioii his name you wouIj" think they were worthy of respect. I w,is there. It wac not in 1893, the suniiiier before, as .Mr. Elliott says, lilt it was two years before. Mr, riUKSTIs— As a member of the Hoard 1 personally cannot erdure this any longer. That is to .say. 'Iiat -.fter .Mrs, liargfl had ma»le the statement that she did, the 10 matter should not be probed any further. Mrs. Large has stated that in the midst of household cares — and I am sure we all know something about honsehold cares in our own homes. It is, to my mind, humiliating to sit here and probo this matter any further. For my part I am quite satis6ed with the light I have received on this particular case. I do hope it will be pursued no further, so far as I am concerned, Mr, AiKiJis— I simply wir!. to ask the question, if Mrs. Oooderham heard he conversation that occurred between Mr. Elliott and M's. Largel Mrs. Goodep ^m — I am afraid ray memory is not good enough to re '..ombtr, because at my age one might hear a thing and f..rget it. It is three years ago ; but I know it is fresb :a ray mind, and I recollect Mrs, Large making a reni.irk to me. I do not see where else I could have been in the house scarcely, as there was only the one room. And there is just one point here, friends : I wish you to understand thoroughly that all these difficulties with these various members of the General Society, or nearly all, are with men whose work does not touch the women's work, men with whom MrH. Large has never had any work to do ; but men, as I say, who come into her home when she should have rest, and get her into some conversation, and read her a letter, ki..,wing they are going to send it to Canada : get a letter from her, and then send the whole thing, without her knowledge, to Canada. I think that our Woman's Missionary Society will work in harmony with your agents regarding their mission work ; but I do hope and pray that this is an end of their interfering and coming into the hoaieg of our women during their holidays, when ti.ey have no work in common that may be called missionary work. Dit. SiTiiEiiL.^ND — I rise for a moraeut to say that it is necessary the Board should keep in view what the object ot all this is ; I mean of the inquiry at this point. The (|uestion of the difl'erences and the strife between the missionaries, however trivial some of the causes may appear to lie, it was needfu'. to go into for this reason, to show whether or not it was a necessary thing to recall certain missionaries from the field in order to preserve uhe petti e. Although, as I said, some of these things may appear trivial in themselves, yet they thiow light upon that one point, and certainly it does begin to look in this way that if missionaries in Japiu cannot help quarrelling over things that ought not to set ,.hildren quarrelling — it does become a question whether they ought not to be brought out of the field. Would Mrs. Largo please give us light upon one (luestion : It appears that Dr. Eby, who is not here, is charged with dominating the agents of the Woman's Missionary Society. Could you give us any other instances where he tried to control your agents apart from this trouble in the Tabernacle! -Mus. L,\ii(iE — 1 think that was fully answered by Dr. t'ocliran's explanation of the situation. Dr. VAyy con- tinually and persistently — shall T say demanded 1 No, hardly that ; insisted on more work from the Woman's Missionary. Society than we thought our money or the agents were able to give. ^). Could you specify some other cases apart from Miss (.'ushing's ? A. Why, there were repeated applications for work ; each time a return to the request hod been made, and v.'littt we had explained we were unable to do ; and in the Secretary's Review you find it goes on until it came to the point where I prepared the compromise that really voiced the statement that Dr. Cochran made here to-night, that it was impossible for us to work with Dr. Eby on his lines, because liis ideas ot work and our ideas of work were so dilt'erent ; and so I laid the compromise before T)r, Macdona'd and our own ladies, by which we would give oni of our agents, whatever agent was willing to go, to Dr. El.y'.s work, to be entirely u:ider his control, Kud all expenses to be paid by the General Hoard of Missions. In that yo : will notice that we have the provision thnt while they n'.e to remair. members of the Woman's .Missionary Society Mission they are not to sit in (!ouncil with us during the time that arrangement prevails. That was Iwcause we felt if they did so there would only be conflict; that Dr. . « 146 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1895. 'Eby would attribate to Mrs. Large the failure to get all he wanted, and that if things did not go r>Q \ it would be »ttributfd to me Hgain. Mb Uurnkv — Time is important. It uay bu that we have got pretty nearly nil tlio infoimation we can from the ladies as to the questions at issue with tho niaU- midsionuries, but it seenia to mo it is pretty near lime for us to break up the order of busini'ss again and tiogin to make some progress. One important individual ha.s gone from us to^lay, and I am afraid that if wo pursue this investigation very much further we shall losu perhaps tho whole committee. If the ladies have anything more to volunteer we will hear them, and if Mr. Cas.sidy has any questioDi to ask that should develop anything tliai is importan . for us to know in relation to the whole ques- tion, w^ si.ould have it. I think it is very desirable that he should atk those questions, if necessary ; but as to the general members of the committee, I do not think we can develop anj'thing mora by any questions we would like to ask. Mr. Chisholh -On page T>S of the Secretary's Review, we find a letter of Mrs. Ij^rge, addressed to Dr. Mac- donald, in which there are propositii>iis of settlement of the difficulty ; meaiures proposed to lie tivken to pi-ocure pel !e and harmony. Would Mrs. Large feel tree to explain why that was not brought about 1 Mrs. Largk — 1 think you will find ths explanation on the same page. Mr. Chishoi.m — I should like to ask, in that connection, if the explanation is found on the same page, what connec- tion Mr Cassidy had with your work ! Mrs. Lmkie — At the time Mr. Cassidy was in .Shizuoka, I hid no connection with him in work at all. Miss Robertson and Miss Nellie Hart were tho agents of tho VVoiiian's Missionary iSoeiety who were in Siii/.iioka. 1 had no other connection except as Secretary of the Council of the Woman"^: Missionary Society. Dr. Suthkui.and —1 would like to a.sk two or three very brief questions Ijefore Mrs. I,arge retires. Tlie first is this : Is it correct to say that the Taternacle ,ind the work connected with it was a factor in this dispute between the Councils 1 A. It is. Q. And is it true or correct to say that Dr. Eby and Mr. C&ssidy appear more or less prou-inently in connection with these disputes ! A. It is. Q. And one other question which may p(>rhaps touch the two foregoing ones. Suppose that those three factors bad l)een eliminated altogether, would there have Ijeeii still friction and strife Ix^tween the Councils ? A. I do not know that I can say whether I l)elieve that there would or would not I cannot t<>ll how it would have developed. But there was one other jmirit, and that w.is the evident desire on the part of some of the agents of the General Btwinl to get control of the work of the Wouum's Mi-ssionary Society-. Dr. Potts — I suppose you would admit, on the other hand, you were determined that they should not have con- trol 1 Is that not true I Mrs. LaRuE— I would not put it that way. Will vou allow me to answer Dr. Potts' question finth-r ? 1 would say that so long as we understcKxl we were an indepi>nolw make regartling the letter of Mr. McArthur, that part of it e.specially which is found near the top of the sei'ond colunni of page 02 of the Secretary's Review, other than the explanation jiven by Mr, McArthur in the letter a little further down in the column. It Ijegins about the twentv-flfth line down, the part to which I refer ; " 1 have been but recently told by the Chairman of the Woman's work," and so on. Have you any statement to make regarding that letter? A. The circumstances were these ; I would like to say that this was the first and only time that any reference was matle by me, or by any memlier of our household, to the difficulties l)etween tho two Councils. From the time Mr. McArthur arrived in .lapan we were very careful to allow nothing that they could get hold of to pa'-s. I should not say that, but to allow nothing that they could in any way construe, or could be in any way construed, as a reference to any difiicultie.s, to pass from our lips. In Moy of 1891 Mrs. McArthur spoke to us about their difficulties in going to the country. She said there was no one to help them ; that her huslmnd was sick ; they had only been in the country a few months, and of course were strange to all its ways ; that those nyxm whom they hiul relied to help them had given them to understand very plainly that they need not look for any help from them. After this statement was made, we, in our household, consulted together, and ilecided that though the relations were so strained between mmo of the members of the Council and ourselves, it was only a Christian duty for us to help the McArthnis in any way wo could, and I said to Mrs. McArthur later on, " If you wi.sh to go to Ks.ruizawa this summer, I will do all 1 can to help you, ' for that was where we were going. I did. 1 lof)ked after the preparing or picking out of what was necessary for them to take, and arranged it in every way, and just before the time came — a few days before — Mrs, McArthur found it nccessa.sy to dismiss her cook, and unfortunately she asked mo to interpret for her. Her hus- band was absent at Conference. I interpreted for her in the dismissing of the c(X)k, and at her request I helped her to get a substitute. We went to the country while Mr. Mc.'irthur was at Conference. Mrs. McArthur, in the re- marks that she made, showed very plainly that she was going to lay the blame on me for the di'-uiissal of her cook, for in s|)eaking of it she sjmke of how he was going to account to her husband for the change of . Kiks during his absence. They came in just after Conference, and I saw that Mr. McArthur was anntiyed. I hiwl not heard any Conference news, Mrs, .McArthur said, " Do you know where we are going? "and I .sjiid, " Ko ; I have not heard any Conference news, " " Well, we are .sent to Shizuoka." Before any- thing was said, Mr. McArthur repliwi, " I do not know that I am going ; I do not think I shall remain in the country, " and with that he began to blame the Japanese for taking upon them-elves the responsibility of sendin;, him to shizuoka. He blamed the Board for arranging things so thai the Japanese eould staticm him anywhere they liked, and a few othe,- things of that kind that annoyeanes<- are to Ix' blamed, nor yet do I think that the Hoard is to Iwar the blame in this case." " Well, ' he said, '• I do not think I am going to stay in the country, anyway ; I am going to leave." "Well," I said, "if yo.i cannot remain honest and remain in the country, then the siKiner you get out of it the l>ctU>r." And 1 further weni on to s,iy that 1 Ix-lieved it was possible ; I sa.fl that I did not Ix-lieve ilial some of the nieinlx'rs of the Council of the (ieneral Hoard were honest in the course they were pursuing, aMd that I hiul during my yefirs of missionary ex|sMience eonie to the conclusion that it was possible for missionaries on tha field to Ixi doing the devil's work. Those were the remarks that I made. Is there anything more 1 Mr. Laiihiv — Perhaps you will explain what you mean by their not Iwing honest? A. They were not honest te tlieir convictions in the course they were pursuing. Mr. CnisMoiM -I would suggest that it is not necessary to go into tlietie details in this way. Tub CiiAiii.MAN — One brother thinks it is. Mit. (Jiiisnoi.u— I move that the main motion be now taki'M from tliv table. Mil. OiHNEV— I second that. Mr. Maci.ahkn — I have no desire to thrust the matter upon the Board. I may say, if any justification is needed, lo my miud this letter, to which I have called attention, is PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 147 notion be now a very, verj gorious matter. More serious than some of the matters to which we have been devoting attention. I think it was something that required an explanation, if an explanation could be given. I must Bay tlmt when I first read this letter it made a very unfavora'jje iiiiprossion upon my mind in one direction, at hmst, and I was anxious to know what would be said on the other sido. I d;;! not believe in forming an opinion if I cou',1 avoid it, upon ai; (J parte statement. T like to hoar b jtli sides when there are two sides to a question. Mr8. Largb — I am perfectly willing to an.swer any questions that will throw light upon this subject. Mb. Maclaren— You spoke of it as a fact, or a state- ment of belief, that Mr. Klliott, or others, had been pre- paring an indictmen; ajiainst you. Wor.ld you mention thu ground upon which you tbrnieil such belief, or on tthieh you make such a statement) A. I)r. Macdonuld is my authority. Q. What information did Dr. Macdon.ild {,'ive you on the subject? A. T.iat is all that he gave me. li(' .said, " Mrs. Large, there is an indictment being prepared against you." Q. Did he mention any names? A. "Bv tho brethren." Q. Was tho term " the brethren " sutliciently under- stood by you and him to know who would be covered by thephrasfl? A. The sLx men. Q. They i.re the bretlir. n ? A. Yes, Dr. Sutherland— On that point, perlmpa, it should bo stated as an item of information, tlmt in the .Minutes of the Council of the General Society in Japan 1 tiud on a certain date that a small comniittee was appointed to draw up a statement to be forwarded to the (general Conference touching the Woman's Society. 1 cannot give you tlie exact wording. The recoUeclion in my mind now is, "to draw up a stntement to be forwarded to the (ieiieral Conference respecting the attitude of the Woman's Society," and tlmt in it t"-ere was special reference to the Chairman of the Womai:'s Council. Secondly, in a letter from Dr. Macdoimld, he >:tates that at the (icneral Con- ference diligent enquiry was made for that statement or document, liut for some uncxplainalile reason it did imt come. And \,'.,o oidy reasoi assi).;ned for its not ce .ling was that one of tlie brethren, when asked to .sign it, refused, saying that he "knew the.se matters only by hearsay." The Chairman --Wcli, it is moved that we call up the main motion. Mk8. Laroe — There is one little point T would like to refer to myself, and that is .Mr. Klliott's story of the organ. Do you wish an explanation of it I Dr. Potps — I do not think it is necessary. M:i. Kettlkw?;i.i, In answer to my question, Mrs. Large disabused my mind of the impression that 1 Imd tliat Mr. Cas! ;dy had been associated with Dr. VAty in the Tabernacle troubles. .May I ask .Mrs. Large whether Mr. Cassidy had been the source of troubli- except in the mat- ters that have been stated here this afternoon or evening ( There were matters touching the reports nn Sunday Schools, and tho management of the .Sunday Schools, arril, as far as I can recollect, these are the only matters which have been definitely named, in which .Mr. Cassidy came into conflict with tlrrt laily missionaries. Will Mrs. Large kindly info; :n us of nny otiiei occasiorrs when Mr, (Cassidy came into the trouble ,' A. In the year If 90, when I was in Canada, there was a good deal of trouble in .Shi/nok/i ov('r the schools, and in that Mr. Cassidy was concerned. Now, 1 am speaking of what othi^r members of thi^ Council have told me, and by the Minutes of the Council, 1 know nothirrg pci'son ally of those dilliculties at all ; they occurred while I was away from the field. They were not written to me. Tiny were not repeated to me i... my return, .Miss Morgan and Miss llargrave know of those ; I do not, Q, Are tln^ro any others that you kno"' jI ? A, Jlr, Cassidy 's letter to me on tiro (ilh of April, 1893, Q, Have wo that hi're ? A. Yes, A Mkmder— That whole thing was settled by apology ! A. Yes; but Mr. Kettliiwell is asking now if there wei-e any other occasions. That i^ all. Mr. Bktts — Is it the intention to call up this question now from the table, without having heard lirothur Cawidy I I thought one of the reasons why it was tabled was to hetr all those things before it was disposed of. The Chairman — If you have heard what you desire now from the ladies, the next point would be as to the hearing of Brother Cassidy. Mr, Oijrney — Wo have heard Brother Oassidy with reference to thi^ subject of the motion that is on the table. The Chair,«an— Yes. Mr. Gurnev — So far as it is nece^^ary to hear Mr. C'\ssidy, we have heard with him with reference to this one topic, and it is possible to discuss this thing forever, and get to that we will be tired of it I would like to reach some I'estination, and I press the motion. The r!iiAiriMAN— Bro. Eby will not be able to be with us, Pracvi-ally, that seems to be the cage. If Bro. Cassidy could make his statement this evening, even though we sit until twelve o'clock, we could go at it coolly in the morning, and vote on all these questions and cover the whole ground. That occurs to me as a desirable plan of action, if it would be suitable to the Board. If Ml-. Cassidy is prepared to make his statement to-night we would hear it. Mr. Cassidy — There are a fow questions I wish to ask befcr'e the ladies withdraw, Mr. MACLARr';N — With regard to the ladies, I think we have either done too much or too little. We ought either not to have touched the matter at all, or I think we ought to have gone a little further. I think there are several of till! ladies here who have not been asked anything. The Chaikma.n— If the points are all covered 1 jMi', Maclaren — I am not aware that is the fact. Nobody has said so, and I have no personal knowledge of my own. I think we oujht not to have entered upon this iirqr.iry, or we ought to have completed it. I do not thinl we ought to do half of it and let the other half go, Dh. Potts— Unless Dr Maclaren knows that these other Ittdi.-s have something, in all good conscience, we have hr'ar-d enou^jh of this subject, for I feel that our Church is humiliated from ocean to ocean by being irri- tated over such ti'illes. I never listened to such trifles. .Mri. (rfHNEV — With reference to the suggestion that we can go on and vote a scheme of resolutions, it is not ray experience of the way nren operate in delil>erative bodies. They usually deal with one thing at a time, and I have no expectation or hope that we can pass upon all the questions r.liat coirre before us without further debate. We have had this one resolution before us, and over and over again urcn have ri.=en and said they were ready to vote. We have heard all of this evidence which has any bearing whatever upon the subject before us, and it is time that we did something. This is a business meeting. It is a meeting of business men, and because — well, I will not say anything, because I lost my temper about eleven o'clock ; but it seems to me we ought to resume the ordinary rules of business pr-ocedure, and deal with one subject at a time. I press tl'.e notion, Mr, Kkttlehell — I think there are many reasons why this motion should not be pressed at this stage. We have ventured once or twice — I ventured myself upon ground that 1 ought not to have done, and in order to explain ray reasons for asking a certain question — I was proceeding to show the bearing that it would have on the situation of the.se six men, but the Chair ventured to remind me that we were not discussing th.it. Time enough to discuss that when all the evidence was in. We were getting the facts, .and yet when we are barely through getting the facta we are ..sked to take a vote without discussing or sifting a single thing. T think that is another reason, in addition to the ones named here, why we should not take tho vote now. TijE Chairman — Brother Cassidy asks the privilege of asking questions upon this matter. At this place we cannot well put up the bar. Mil. CmsHOLM— It seems to me the question before us was the propriety of tho reception of the resignation of tho six missionaries, whose resignation has been tendered to thi? Board, and that we tabled that in order that we might get from the Woman's Missionary Society the facts that they know relative to that question. If we are through with tl.e Woman's Missionary Society, then the 148 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1895. motion is quite pertinent that we should take the main motion from the table. Mr. Oauidy has made a itate- ment. There are certain questions he wishes to ask. We are emii^avoring to get to the twttom of the affair. I think we ought to get all. T think that to cut oft' the questions now of a brother who is looked upon, in a certain sense, although not officially, ts one who knows more about the feelings of the six brethren than the rest, — I think that to out him off from asking questions would give occasion for unjust remarks. Mb. Gdrnbt — I suggested an hour ago that Mr. Cassidy should ask questions. Mr. Oassidv — I wish to ask a few questions of Mra. Large, with your permission. If she is too tired, I do not wish to prean anything further. Would Mrs. Large kindly tall me if she has the written records of the visit of the deputation to the Woman's Mission Council of 1892? If you have, perhaps would you kindly look them up and make sure that I was the one who used the term " 8nubl>eut that in there to catch somebody's eye — something to that effect ( A. I did. I cannot say that thost' were the exact words. Q. If I tell you what was my understanding of the ca.sc, I would like *o ask Mrs. Large, through the Chair, if she will accept that as the explanation ! I will give you t xactly the instance, as I renipmi)er it. I sat at the (fuarterly meeting in the parsonage of .Shizuoka church, and heard this report read. .My ni.thod of preparinj; my reports for the Uistri't is to have all thi .IniiiincKe brethren send them in to me— a great parcel com -Bin, M written in .Tapanese. I then have my assistant !iit down and reaii ■lapanese, and 1 write F^ngliah, until I huve written tlicm all out in my own form. When Mr, Ivolmyashi came to this point, he paused in his reading, and said just what I put in the parentheses. He said; "The reason of the apparent falling oH' here in the number of fit' -liars is not real, as 't is only due to the withdrawal of the ladies' schools for their own reports." I s niply (lUt it in as he gave it. He ha that it would be noticed by Dr. Macdonald and others, Mid would lead to the correction of that practice. Mrs. Larob — I have looked up the Minutes, and it is so recorded. Mr. Oassidv— Well, I did not remember that I had used it. As it was used, it does not matter very much which uf us used it, I do not know to what extent I should pursue this question to-night, but 1 very strongly protest against the position the General Secretary has chosen to put me in by a question he asked Mps. Large towards the close, that is, simply asking her ifDr. Eby and myself were prominently connected with these troubles 1 Yes, of course we were, she replied. Then, if Dr. Kby and his Tabernacle, and Mr. Cassidy were absent from Japan, eliminated altogether, would the trouble cease! I do not think that is a fair way of treating the case. If some one were to ask me if Dr. Sutherland, and the (ieneral Board, and the Woman's Missionary Soiciety were eliminated, would that cure the case, I would think it a very unfair way of handling the case. I do not think that is the way to do. That is not the kind of measure we are looking for. Dr. Eby, Mr. Cassidy and the Tabernacle are to be dealt with each on their own merits, If I am in anything wrong, I am willing to stand the consequences, but not to l>e buckled up that way in a sort of general case. At the beginning of the subject under consideration, the same effort is made. My name is put prominently in the first introduction of it, ai.\d then you would have to search the whole thing through to find that I had anything to do with it at all. TiiK C'ii.MKM>N- -Do you propose to ask any further questiear to me so at all. I am very much mistaken if that impression was left upon the Board. If there is !i band spoken of here, who are working for that purpose, that l)aiid ought to be able to Iw defined. It ouKht to be known who they are and what they are doin;.' before it is stated in a way like this. How many belong: to that l>and, do you suppose 1 A. I cannot tell you. i) You cannot tell who they were, or where they were, only that there was a baTid, and it was not the Self-sup port Itar.d, I suppose, Itecanse Mr, Cassidy was supposed to be an aggressive inenilM>r of the l>and. I would like to know if there are any Indications that I ever wanted to get control of the Woman's work ? A. I never hud any contact with .Mr. Cassidy in that line, .Mr. Cassidy's expressed opinions about the Taber- nacle work in Karuizawa I think, showed that he was not satisfied with the independence of the Woman's work The dilheulties that the ladies had in Shizuoka with regard to the schools- this is hoiirsay, and I only know what I heard of it, and I know very little ; it occurreody else that did. Mb8. Largb — Mr. Superintendent, I do not know whether I have a right to ask this (|uestion or not. 1 do not read the Discipline a very great deal, but is there any- thing in the Discipline, or was there anything in the Discip- line of that year, that made provision for deaconesses, and laid down the position that they would hold in tli(! Church? Thk Chairman — There has been such a provision in th? Church for some years now. That remark perhaps might liave been made in one way, and it might have been made in another way. It might have been made on disciplinary lines, and with a gootl intent ; or it might have lieen made :ui a kind of slur. Mrs. Larok — May I ask another question ( Had not the Methodist Church of Canada given the Woman's Mission- ary Society, and the agents of that Society, their position some years before, when the Society was formed I Tub Chairman- \''ou had your position. That is here in the Discipline. Mk. CABSinv — Oh, yes, that was not questioned. (Reads from Secretary's Review, p. t!.'), first col. ) : "Mr. Cassidy's iintagonism to Mrs. I-arge, not for any personal fault," etc., etc. That is very mysterious to me. I ought almost to give my way of how this came about. I was urged by the .Japanese, especially by an ordained minister of tlie Japa- nese — not the superintendent in charge, but an ordained minister, who was appointed superintendent of the Sabbalh Schools belonging to tlio circuit — I was urged by him to speak to the Indies of the girls' school and ask them to lome into consultation with the Japanese preachers and workers,. more in regard to Sabbath School work. I said, " Mr. Kato, go and speak for yourselves. The ladies will receive you kindly and they will do all they can for you." He is of very slow speech in Knglish, and so he urged me to go and speak for him. He said they would understand me better. I went anil had a very free conversation with Miss Ko)>ertson in regard to the question I wished to pro- pose. She agreed with every point I stivted, so far as I nndd see. She said slie fell "in with it heartily, and it was it a second conversation that Miss Mart and I failed to understand one another. This is what led to what took place to-day. Now, I was perfectly innocent of trying to • xercise any control. I did not control the Sabbath Schools ill any way. I did not do any Sabbath School work. I did not control one in any way, only in the otlicial form of Ipoing Chairman of the District. They were all under thf^ '■egular machinery of the Church. Tiir Chairman— Was there any attempt on the part of the Church authorities there to appoint thesuperintender.ta nf these schools'! Mr. Oahsidv -None, sir. I ussured Miss Robertson that when 1 proposed these consultations 1 did not intend that, ilid not wish that, nn'^ I urged upon her that they enter into consultation with these young men in just such meet- ings as they held afterwards, "because," I said, "you ladies are better trained in thi" kind of work than we are, and you will be able to help them." 1 urged that upon them. I had no idea of taking their work out of their hands. (llea>!s from Secretary's Review, p. 05, tirat col.): "If .\Ir. Cassidy's opi lions were carried into effect, it would mean the closing of *-hose schools," and so on. I do not need to stop to say that I apprecict^ their work and the training of these girls in that way ; 1 highly appreciated it and would be very far from doing anything to hinder. ( Reads further from Review, closing with the words, " and the young men who workei with him," p. 65.) I never knew of an instance where this was discussed in the pre- sence of young men, much le«s did I know of any signiti- cant glances. TilK (JiiAiRMAN — Did you know there was an idea of that kind among the ladies? Mh. Cassidy — I did not. This is what I am going to show you, how utterly ignorant I was of this and how in- nocently I walked into diihculties through it. (Quotes further from the Review, ending with the words, " when both ladies were present," p. 05, second col.) Thk CiiAiUM.AN — Do you deny that conversation with Miss Hart 1 Mh. Cassidy — No, certainly I do not. Miss Hart — Miss Munro is a little mixed in her letter, in what she refers to there in connection with the young men. We had a consultation there. Mr. Cassidy was not present at that consultation. Mr. Kato was pre- sent, and he expressed at that meeting the same opinions that Mr. Cassidy had expressed to me in that conversation that we had together, and that iias led to Miss Munro saying that the Japanese expressed the same thing as Mr. Cassidy had stated tc me. Then, where Miss Munro speaks about us not being together. Miss Robertson was in the room with me, although she took no part in the consulta- tion, and I think that pnrhaps makes that plain. AIii. ('Asainv — In the second conversation. Miss Robert- son was present, l)ut took no part. In the first, Miss Robertson alone was present. Miss Haiit -In the tirst conversation you had alone with Mi.ss Roberstson, 1 did not know what took place, as Miss Robertson did not report it to me at all. Mk. Cassidy — I described the same thing as far as I could. Miss Hart — Then we had a conversation together, when .M iss Robertson was present. There was a third conversa- tion after the letters had been received. .Mh. Lamui.v Is it necessary to keep Mrs. Large here unless she wishes ', TiiK Chairman -I do not see that Brother Cassidy is dealing properly with her. Ho said he wanted to ask some (]uestions, and now he is reading the document at length. Mr. Cassidy — There is a further question I wish to ask, if you please. Let me ask if Mrs. Large approves of the methods that are spoken of immediately following what I have read ! A. Wliat methods ? Mr. Cassidy — Then T shall have U) read it to see. "The ladies doubteottom uf p. (i5.) Mrs. Large says she was ITiO miles from tint scene of this mutter described by Miss Munro, and she just stated to Mr. Cassidy that she knows nothing about it. Mrs. Large — 1 mean nothing about the consultation that the three ladies had together in Hhizuoka, until after it was all over. Q. Dr. Macdonald says that Mrs. Large knows the particulars? A. Certainly, I got them from Miss Munro afterwards. The Chairman— Are there any other ladies that have anything to give us 7 Miss Ulackmork— Mr. Cussidy said that he knew of no one, meaning the agents of the General Hoard, who had any desire to got control of our work. At the deputation which has Ijcen spoken of so frequently this evening, there was a desire expressed for a closer union Iwtween the two Councils. It was shown, as our Societies stand in rela'.ioii to each other, that we are expected to consult with the agenU of the General Hoard, but that they do not control our movements. We proved that we did consult with the agente of the General Board, l.ut Mr. Cruinniy reniinktd that consultation was not sufficient He said, " When a person comes to one, and asks his opinion on a certain matter, and consults with him, and receives advice, and that advice is not followed, it i« very likely to leave a tore feeling. You want something more than oonsultbtion." Now, if they did not want control of our work, it leema to me it was very much like it, at least they wanted more than consultation. D«. HuTHKKi.AND —There is one other point which ought to be taken into account along the line we are dealing with. That is, the fact which is Imyond dispute, that there was a movement in the direction of which these ladies complain. So manifest was that, so perfectly understood, that Dr. Macdonald, in the Council, declared it to be a "crusade" against the women, and when he put the question to these same pnrtiiM, " What can be done to bring about a better state of things 1 " the firm answer was, " Cease your at- teaipts to suhjuga'^ us. ' Now, I am not offering the least opinion as to whether the women were right or wrong ; I i am merely speaking of these things to show that in Japan, anil at that time, the women fully believed that it was the endeavor of the Council to subjugate them and control their work, and Dr. Macdonald was of the same opinion. That is the point I want to make. The Chairman — Wo had better not argue the question. Miss MoRdAN— At the meeting in Karuizawa, in the summer of 1892, when the deputation was sent to consult with us, 1 heard for the first time that there was a lack of harmony between our works — the work carried on by our agents and the agents of the Ooneial Board. The gentle- men there picgent said the difficulty was chiefly in the evangelistic work, and when pressed to give a point, they said thiy could not give a point. At the end of the summer, as we were returning, I was in Tokyo for a few dK.y', and I was very much surprised to hear then that I hail be<-n the cause of disturbance between the two Mis- sions. I heard that an agent of the General B'>ard had made cnmplaints of me to Dr. Macdonald. Dr. Macdonald called at the school the next morning, and I asked him if this were the case, and ho said it was. I asked him it he would give mo leave to go to the (wrson in question and make inquiry? He did, and it was Mr. Cassiily who lodijecl the complaints against me. I asked hipa what he complainrd of ; it it were true that he had said 1 was alienating our work from the Church work in Sliisuoka, and he suiil he had. W'hen I asked him to explain him- self, his complaint was simply founded on the fact that when our two ladies, .Mrs. Goo wliut programme I should carry out. When 1 asked him further in what way I was alienating the work, he said that 1 did not help 8up|iort the church. I do not know exactly what he meant by that. We attend the church e\ery Sabbath, myself and my associate teacher, and the girls all contribute towards the church. There was never a request made to US we did not consider. He said then, when there were District meetings there I did not attend thorn. I said I could not possibly do that; that I (lid not think that was in my province, as I had charge of the school work. I pointed out that our time was fully occupied in the school and in evangelistic work, and when we parted, I think, if my memory serves me correctly. Mr Cassidy ackriowle(lgee things there is no course open to the Hoard but to accept the recom- mendation, giving th(! missionaries an opportunity on fuller consideration to remain in their work if the Board think it expedient that they Nhould do so, and that therefore the committee would recommend to the Board the recall of those missionaries, leaving it with the Executive, should they desiro to remain, after having the »xplanationc as fully as can be given to them — having the facts and statements of the Boar.), perhaps, before them — that if they de:n the subject. Mb. Hhohby — That strilcen me an un eminently wise and iieiigible suggestion. I think we would Im* iililu in that r«|>ort to state our reasons, which wh i-ould not embody in a resolution ' ^f. Mb. Nixon — I am in entire agreement with what Brothe- Aikins says, and I think it is the very wisest thing we can do to carry out his suggestion. Mb. Chhiiolh — I am in full sympathy with the course aa outlined by Mr. Aikins. Would it not lie well, tht^i. to remove from the table the resolution, to give to mover and seconder an opportunity of withdrawing it, and place this in its stead I TliK CllAlBMAN — The resolution is on the tnble, and can be left theiv for that matter. Mr. M/.clahkn — Thcsre is one point referred to by Mr. Aikinu that strongly impressed roe last evening, »nd that was the necessity for dissociating our action it.^. H nu t.'ie !i\r miisiouanes from vhe nmtter which we were . rtLld'iring and the stateroents which were l>eing resdo here iaat evening ; and the precise "^y of reaching that, I think we are agreed, can i« in the way sunjgerted 1/ Mr. Aikins In case no other supi'eati n liiul been niiule, I had prepared a resoliiti'ix wh'cl' 1 was going to submit this rootiiing Im lore uio rakivg ot' that reaolntioi trtm the table should be oons-'lertd. I'hix is .'le first draft, which does not exactly 'iieet my own view, but will just show th" IVutrd the Jirec'-.ion in '«tiich my thoughts were running : " That iv considering and passing upon the request for a recall of the six missionaries, any evidence or statements from the 'iVomnn's Missionary Society be eliminated from the consideration." That is tb question. It is just another way of doing it. "Thk CllAlBMAN — While we are not influencMl by it, still we felt it our dity to go through to the last jjlininipr of light on the question. Mr. Maclarr.n — Having he<.roipty, that we now consider we have, inde| endently of that, h;>thcient gniundh upon !i to Uise ou .iction > f-ga.ding the picall of tli»- six men, and that it is not )M>.s<-d u)Kin what wiut sjiiil there. Tlu-t, I think, in what we ought to make ilear, becausecall them from the field. I ivould like to put it in that way. I would like to In- conciliatory. I woulf.' likti to give tlieni a chance now that the matter I. as \>c^n fully discusMxJ, now th."* we i,„ve v,lio judgment of '.his IxKly. .\fter .sjsjnding these duyj, we see thai t'ley have been largely in the wrong, and I would like *o give them c, chance to reconsider llAr action without stultifying themselves, and I think we 'inn afford to do nj. 1 do .lot think it will lessen oi\r dignity, or oiir authority, or our strength, if we n^ve Ibern one more chaice, and say to them, " Xow, we do not want you to w'tiidraw." I would like to word it in this way, or sometling like this, "That having conlidence in the integrity and high Chri- tian character of the brethren who dr«ire re'iall fro.>-, Japan, and Ixslieving thorn still qualified to fill their posi- tions as the agents of this Kooiei-y i'.i the forekgn field, this Board desires the Mm* brethren to withdranr their request for recall," and then proceed, " that, nevertheless, if they should still press the matter, that they be recalled by the Executive." Mil. HuKSTiH— Brother Kettlewell haa expreaeed my niiiid pretty well upon that point I was influenced very much last night by the statement made by Dr. Cochran He gave testimony here on behalf of these men, which certainly influenced my mind a good deal, that they were missionaries ; that they were men of the right ipirit for missionaries in his opinion ; and I felt all along that if these men could be saved to our work, and not involve the expense of bringing them home and lending other men out, 1 think we ought to endeavor to reach that point if at all possible. Of course, if they will retract what they . havi' stated in this last document — certainly that would be ex- pected—and promise to work in harmony with the administration, they might be permitted to remain. I do hope the door will be left open still, and I am influenced by that almost entirely by the testimony of Dr. Cochran in reference to the character of these men. I have been asking a good many of the men around what sort of men are these I h'> you know them personnliy 1 And I could ge* very 1' tie information. But here it a man from the field who testifieu that he .lelieves they are good men and true, and that they are well 6tted for the missionary work Now, you might iiearch all over the country, and you might not Is! able to finf' men very much better ; and if you can save them to the Church and to the field, let us do so, pro vided they show a right spiri , and apologize to tne Ronrd aiid retract *li.''t they hnv- stated. Dh. RvcKM' 1-..U seem« to me it is not tavii.i; time t<, discuss thefe niKt»er« just now. If we accept Mr. Aikins proposition, vl •■hi rb'nk we all will, we may leave the iouiinii.tue to draft the repoti, and put in what form they think liest, and discussion, if any, might come up aft<-r wards. I very I eartily agree with it. 1>R. Si'TliKHLAND -There is this to be said, that it the brethren now express their views, the sub-committee will have a much lietter idea of the drift of opinion in the Hoard. Hkv. Dk. McLkan — Let me call your attention to page !^) of the Secretary's Review. After the letter for recall had been KiMil in, a letter was sent by the General Secretary, and in the middle of that l';tter there is the following : " Without desiring in any way to prejudice the question, 1 think it is not improl)able that the Executive will consider each si'parnte case on its merits." Now, sir, I came here with the intenlitm of saying nothing whatever on this question. With all the native simplicity of a western man, I left the i|uesti(m of throwing light upon it to the wise men of tiie east, but some of us know something con cerning some of the 'iiissir.naries in Japan, and we think it is only right for us to take into consideration their fornier char'- '^er, "vliat they were before they went to •fapsn. Ni.w »-> now tha* cn« or two of them have rendered very jjooi service ; one especially has rendered very pssi service n connection with our work before he went to ilapan. I do not know of a /.^bler spirit, a more devo^.Hl man. a moie enchusiastic one thtn one ot theses x missionaries. L rtfer to Mr. ICIIiott, formerly belouginK to tl'e Manitoba Conference. I knew him in cc;hge, and when he was in Manitoba. Now, sir, I take this letter that v'a.j sent by the «ix missionaries, asking for recall. I coropaie the language of that lettf. with Mr. EUiottV style, and 1 know Mr. Elliott did not write that letti >-. Dii. rfUTiiERL.'.ND- -That is j^retty certain. Dh. McLkan — I know he ('id not write that lett4>r ; that is not bis language. I in>j you to tal the letter that wiu writt*-ii to Mm. Largf! by Mr. Elliott, and to pliic • tbalsir^e by side with t' ■ language of that dixtument xsk li.'^' for recall, an 1 ! !»ay that these letters are different lelvers. Now, 1 see no way out of the difficulty by send- ing a retiort, if that repor' is sent t<. this combination of six missionaries. It will rwvlly me...n they will meet togethei, anil we know very well thaw there will be sym jMkthy, nnd that being joined together as a band, isolated, a man may very etisily put his name to a document and »end a reply that he would not have written himself. I do not put forward the plea of inaan;ty, or temporary in ^P"'-W^',l ' '!W^»»W» ' ?<:"««'y- • " ■ ' " ■. '-J(t ' ffJ.r PROCEEDINGS RE TAPAN AFFAIRS. 158 ««nity but we heard something the other day of the strain ii|ion the nervous temperament through ulimste ; we know Miinethintt of the ohangeH of environment and it might \m wi>il for the Missionary lioard t4i iu:cepl this view : " Put, yourself in his place." If we worn tht-re und«r their dr- . iiinstancee we might looit ui>on it soinowlmt differmiHy. I i)eli«ve, also, if these individual miHiHionaries vHni litii« ilit-y would be quite willing U) accept and Ui .luilti Milling to retract. Now, I say wti want to Havo •!•/• mun, «t> want to save the work ; we ilo not wimt to lo .-er our • wii dignity, and yet wo do not wiuil to Ioho the nun. Wn run say that there is one metluHl, and that in nummary dismissal ; cnother is recall. iJut there in imollier melhoil which I think is the wiseHt, iit'd that is conoiliiition, and tliat may be done by a document, or it may be done by ■-ome one person. I feel very Hlrongly that it would Im well for us to divide the force, the i(imbine-committee be appointed to prepare a reimrt on the lines indicated by Ititither Aikins and submit for our consideration. (Motion put and carried.) Db. Potts — I move that the Chair name a committee of five. Mb. AlKlNg — Might T su.:e to hear Brothers Khy and Cassidy, and any witnesses that might he called in view of what they may say. Now, when are we to hear Brother Cassidy I It is said we cannot hear Brother Eby until Thursday morning. Dr. Rv(;kman— Dr. Khy wishes me to say t) the com- mittee this morrin^ that lie will be prepared to give his statement to-night. Tub Chairman - -The (.'hair is prepared for any motion. I)r. Hkaht/.- -I move that Broth(ir Cassidy be now heard. (Seconded and carried.) The Chair nominated the following as the sub-com- iidttee : J. A. M. Aikins, Oi \ A. Cox, S. F. Huestis, Wni. Briggs and 8. J. Hhorey. (.\pproved.) Mr. 0.\.ssii)V -Mr. Chairman, fathers, and brethren. I shall try to be as brief us I can. as I realize that time is more and more pressingly precious, and yet I feel that it is important to sjiy all that ehould be said. I nin goiii^' :o pass over os much as I possibly can. The whole Central labernacle (uestion I do not propose to touch. I will 'legiii on pve 21) of the Secretary's Review. It has oaen said that this statement is given reluctantly ; it was demanded ; and hence tha mijsionaries have to take the responsibility of these statements being produced and laid Iiefore the Board. All I have to say to that is that there has been no insinuations that things were in such a shape that they would not stand iiwestigation ; there might have been no demand for a 8tat<>ment. If the insinuations are made we must have the statements. f do not see any other way out of it. It is stated on page :!!), under the paragr.'xph " Se-'ds of Trouble," that " the Tabornacle scheme and the .Self support movement have '•een wither the cause or occasion of nearly all the friction that has disturlied the Japan Mission." I may pass that jvcr, because it is the thing that is being attempted to be proved. Then it goes on to say : " ft may be matter of surprise to some," etc. (Reads from paragraph in ool. 2, p. 21) of .Secretary's Review.) I think that is a very one-sided statement. I think simply the incident that took place there ahowed the sympathy towards the n^iasionariei. i have .is good a right to my opinion as othera have, anrl it is for this Bov.rd t.T .judge between opinions rather than auertion* of that kind. Then it Mtjri : ■■ For all this I wai toUlly unprepared," etc. (Reads from last paragraph of ool. 2, p. 29.) Now, lo far ai designedly keeping the Secretary in ignorance is oonoorned, it was always a grief to me that we could not get to him and talk more with him about these matters. If I could oidy take the time to give you as much insight as possible as to how these little things came about, it might be help- ful. When I was in England, tlie letter sent to me was not addressed to me from Japan, though it was practically the same thing, because it was addressed to Mr. Saunby, so that it was forwarded to mt. It H.Uturbed me a good deal, and I hastened home as soon as I could ; and as soon as T reached home I wrote to the Mission Rooms saying if there was anything requiring consultation, or if the Doctor would like to see me at all I woidd be very happy to place myself at his disposal at any time, or something to that etieot. But 1 recoived this reply ; " I do not know of anything that requires consultation at the present time. It is probable there will be a meeting," and so on. (Reads from letter dated 27th of March, 1894.) 1 do not wish to make anything of it. Of course it was a perfectly proper and kind reply, but I just wish to show this, that all the time my anxiety wac, as soon as anything happened, to go right to the Mission Rooms. The moment I heard any- thing from England or from Japan that seemed to indicate disturbance at all, my first thought was, let Dr. Suther- land know that I am here, and that I will at any time re- spond to his call and go and tell him anything ; open my mind and give him all the information T can. I was afraid that misunderstandings htbd got abroad, and I thought that was the best way to clear them up. I cer- tainly think so still. I simply make this as a reply to the statement that he was designedly kept in ignorance of these things. Then it says, " This very niturally led to a careful enquiry," and so on. (Reads from last paragraph, p. 29, col. 2. ) That is a work of imagination that is not sustained by proof of facts. I had no more idea that whav took place at the General Conference would take place than I have now what will take place next week, or what this Board is going to do next. I went there as an honest, humble memlier to learn. It was my first attendance at the Gen- eral Conference, and no one went with a kindlier spi'it. I entirely deny that there was any plan to go there to disturb anybody. 'Then it says, " That which lay at the foundation was dissatisfaction with the policy of the Board," and so on, (Reads from sane paragraph.) We have already burst that little bubble. There is absolutely nothing in it. Then it goes (m, " To accomplish this it was necessa'- ' and so on. (Reads from same {Mvragraph at the i pag" .10, column I.) Here follows the th , c sup- port the statement, and a theory that is cv work of imagination. These are very remarkable statements. We just refer to the third and fourth of these, "To supersede the Ceneral Secretary." As I said before, I am simply innocent of anything in the way of a movement or a deter- mination on anybody's part to do anything of the kind. It turned out that when the vote was cast for General Secre- tary there was a considerable vote for a certain person. If I had l)eeii asked before I went there, if Dr. Sutherland were not elected General Secretary whom would you like to have elected ? I should simply have said, I do not know ; I nragriipli.) I think that ii a ■latcninnl that Kitlicr oii);ht to Im< prnvflij or witlidiawn. IVIilixrntoly to ncoumt two ninn of Kuniutliiiig ■o dtfKnili*, dintinut and uoncivte iti timt is ko>>i)( loo fur. "And their great diRappointnit'itt. wlicn tliat piirt of the icheiue whiuh referred to thn (IcniM-al C'oiiforcni')' action," and lo on. (Heodl from i>anii* piiragraph ) Woll, that is one way of putting >t. We pass over tlic next paritgrnph. There is jn»t one word iii the tliinl line from the bottom of the para^rapll on Mm. Large Iwing implii'alod : "To im- peach the head of tlio W'Dman'H Council, with whose work they had no right to inteniu'dJIe, and tliux secure her recall ; and all the while carefully cvincealing their deiii<^n» from the parliea concerned. ' O' course, wo cciiipede we had no right to intt'rmoildlc, and I think it has been shoivn already what tlio henriiig uf it ih : that thoie who im- peaolied her stand by wlia' they have done, or take it back, it all I have lo »ny. •' Tln' Secretary » Stati'nieni.'i at General Conference. Thin diijn'ssion, ihouuh somewhat lengthy, is necessary to enalile the Hoar.l," and so on. ((leads from par. 3, chI. 1, p. 30 ) Well, of course those who reniemlHT distinctly will know that we did not state tile siinie things at all, that we were not on the same line, ami whatever Dr. Eliy had to say in regard to cliil- dien's alioHaiices, I never said .% word ubont it in any other sense than that 1 regretted its having over lici'n dis- turbed, and all that I proposed was with a view to avoid a similar disturbance in the future. To say that I was com- plaining of tho reduction is simply, as I said before, a great mistake Then, at the end of the paragrapli, " I would repeat that statument today were there oociuiuin for it," and so on. Here he makes me respnnsihle for saying certain things, unci makes the iiiissionarieH repudiate what I say, as if we were at variance. There is not a statement that I made that every man there will not slaiid liy, if I judge correctly. I do not know deliiiiiely, l)ut I am not aware that one single statement I made was repudiated by a man in Japan. I do not think there was one st^.te- inent I made but whs on a linn entirely apart from this, and hencn we did not conllict a', all. as 1 have already assured the Ituard over and over again, and that beforo I ever heard fniin them, as you will see by my letter in the ,Von(ri«rt/ ll'tVno/i of last January. '■ Allot h'r remark tttlributiHl to me, and ipiite as erroneous as the foregoing, tK'currod as follows," etc., etc. (Heads t'lMin last paragrapli, col. 1, p. lit).) The newspaiier report did misrepresent tho Secretary in one clause in this. In a letter in which I HUininen that. A little further down, " Al the Oeneral t'unference, Dr. Macdoiiald, after listenin;,' loone of Mr. Cassiily's s|H'eches," and .soon. (Heads reiii.iinder of paragraph.) Now, this is one of the unfortunati- jsisi- tioiis in which Dr. MaiMlonald has put me. I am very stirry for one or two instances of this kind. We had a conversation utider the rear gallery of the church, in which Dr. Macdonald s|sjke very much a.s he did hern. Ho was really astonished. He thought all tho way thrcjugli I was aiming at him. I was talking on inde- pendent lines. Later on, someone K|Kike in defence of Dr. Mucchtnald. Al least he did himself, and I said if I thought for a moment anyone would have bluiiied you, I would have guarded jou, and put a word in on the other side ; but I thought I would steer clear, and not touch anvlNKly. What I said in reganl to thia mattar of exJHinse, waa this : I said if Dr. Hutherland had given me the consideration in tho Missionary Committee 1 should have had, we would have heuni nothing of this. LatiM- on, in the conversation, I said are you aware that my expniises home have never Ixten paid yet, or something like that. I tohl him they had not been. You may think I i»iu conjuring this up, and it is of later date, and there- I'ore I may be able to flx it up ua suit myself, hut long before I hml ever heaitl he had repeated this, if you refer to my letter which appeared in the Guardian of Novemln'r 7lh, IMil-l, you will find the exact thing stated as I give it you now, showing that it was the very thing in my mind, namely, that if he (the Heorotury) hod given me the oon sideration in the committee that I should have had, the thing never wouhl have been heard of. Ma. BuTis —What did you mean by thati Mil. Cahsidv— riie (ieneral Secretary emphasized that he desiree representa- tives here from Japsn. Then let it be fixed and stay there for four or live or six y ars, unless conditions arose to cause it to be reviewed agai'i ; of course giving the Board power to review it at any time, but not tj insert that idea of aniiuallv, whiih held out before us that any year, any new member, under any changed circumstances, may rise up and move a sweeping change, and before ever we know what we are doing it is made. 1 said, if we had the con siderallon we should have had, I would not have moved an anieiidineiit. I was sorry to move the amendment. But my sugge-ition with regard to the word "annually " was received with a good deal of vigorous opposition. It was not entertained for a moment, and in fact my mention of it was not graciously received, so that I felt that there was no oilier way to do but to move an amendment ; and hence if those who h.ive time will read over the letter of November the 7ih, they wi'l find that the statement I made there sustains my xs'-.rtion as to what I said to Dr. Macdonald. I do not mean to say that Dr. Macdonald purposely misrepresented ui", but ho got two things mixed in the conversation. He pui the things together as cause and eirect which were not together ii-s cause and effect. I must positively assert that. It was not beoause my travel- ing expenses were not paid from Japan, or for any such reason. I utterly and absolutely deny that. Piissing over to page 31 we find: "A precisely similar course Inis been pursued in Japan by tho same men in respect to Mrs. Large." As that may bo dealt with elsewhere, I pa.ss that all over. And Dr. Macdonald's case ; I do not think there is anything in that that I have marked, scarcely. Then on page 41, foot of second column: "8o long as Roinc of the missionaries of a former day were in the field, the Council as such was loyal to the Board and its policy." (iieads paragraph down to the words "held in check.") I uiii happy to Bb.y I was associated with Dr. Macdonald almost lo the end of my time there, as we came home only within a very short time of one another. The next paragraph (p. \'l): " It will not bo considered out of place if 1 refer for a moment to the composition of the (,'ouncil," etc. (Reads paragraph down to tho words " afti'rwards done by the C.iuiicil.") I pass that over. It will have to \m judged of in relation to other things. I will not take time upon anything I can avoid. Then Dr. Macdonald's case I pass over until we come to page 48. 1 see I have a note hero which I wish to call attention to: " Nor was Dr. Macdonald's ministry any less successful in Shizuoka," etc. (Heads paragraph.) I do not think wc ever had greater success. It is really a standing credit to Dr. Macdonald and the Mission ; a thing for which we should all lie grateful to God ; but has it any liearing upon tho present position ? Is there a single solitary cose of recent date to sustain it t I do not say there is not. But if there is not, I do not see that it att'ecta the oue at all. WJW' ' i'"F"" Wi '-»' " <>■.■; - "*'■ PROOEEDINQS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 105 gi»« Dr. Maodonald endit for hit hitliful work ; Imt (!<>«• on thi 0M« hi kII 1 Himply ky it muIh. Tlitm to "The Nhiiuok* Cluiroh AHuir," on pAiie it b«»r upon thi wn oome - pAge 5U. 1 o»nnot but regret you h»ve to take up your timn upon tliii. ThoM who have rend it over liave mid tlmru iH no tiling in it in »ny ihaiie. Thiit l« my own conviction. no- my own conviction. It i* • pity to put it in liere. I gey tliii, thnt after »even yceni of niiMt aKr*'0*l>l« «tiii -.till that Or. Macdonald conaidcred that llnancei wcro lurnfully managed on that diiitrict. I think hu lieiievei ilmt. He haa never laid anylhinK to the contrary. All tlii^ie little entrrpriiei wore carried out under my auperin- inndence, and every cent of the money was handled, and every little iletail of the district. lieporls have como, not mily from our own Church, but other Churches, to lay that tliat ii one of the beat orKanized places of Christian work in all Japan. Other men have had a lar^^i share in it. Dr. Macdonald laid the loundations and laid them well. The lueoeu we had in thohe four years was the l>et(inning. Mr. iliraiwa followed and did ^ood work. We have had pleasant associationa in that tield all the way through, and I regret that that little hit of inlinished husi- iiess over which there was a little misuiKlerstandiii); should lie (lragge«l out into the puhlii', niUKnilied and raised up, ;iiid held up over everybody's head, and sent broadcast over the whole world, to make it appear that there was a ^'reat bu'ible liurst in Hhi/.uoka. It is a remarkable piece i>( bungling that this should hxve come before the pulilic lit all. I am sorry that there should have been anyth..ig at all Al)OUt it. I am sorry for Ur. Macdonald in regard to it, I am really sorry (hat he should have had the trouble he had ; but there wen* many things that could have been dealt with in a far dillerent way. What I greatly regret in regard to the matter is, that he did not {list take the time to write and let u.s ui range it between iiH. We could liave managed the whole tiling. I had I'oinu to Canada. 1 was in the Hoard meeting two years ago when I hearti the lirst news from him. lie could have delayed action until I got iiitorination. Some may say he had to deal with the liiianci h right away. So he jiad, but It would have beer easier to assume the responsibility of a ti'W hundred yon for a little while until lie had heard fr>>m me, even if ho held me res|)onsiblu tor it, than to have made himself entirely responsible for eighteen hun- dred yon at once. He had, however, live hiiiKircd yen, which I suppose he has still in the bank to my credit, wliich wiw voted at my reipie.st for the purpose of a lot in Shi/.uoka. It has never been drawn. I suppose it is there yet That could have Iteen Just as easily as not loaned for the time. I)h StniiKKLANl) — I-et UH be correct. The money will nut be there. Any vote that is not used in any year for the purpose for wliich it is voleil lapses, and in order to liiive it, in the Iwink it will have to be re voted. .Mil. Cahmidv — All I have to say is, that it was in the b.'ink at that time. I had a letter from Dr. Macdonald in which he says: "As soon as you have closed up yojr account, I will place that in the bank to your credit, expecting to Iftavc it there until I rami' back." Dh. Huthkhi.a.nii ' He cimid not do that as n matter of linancp. I merely wish to have it unihrstoud Mil. Cahsidy — He could have done it then. We could "ften see what could bo done after it is past ; but I regret that the whole thing came out. There is nothing in it when you read it through. Thk ChaisMan -There wouhl be the objection of using lor one purpose what was \()ted for another. Dh. Hutiirhlani) You see if he put it into the bank to ynur credit, he could not use it or draw it out again with- iiut your order. Mk. (.'ahsiiiY— Ho did not mean that it was in my name I'lit it would stand there. It was under his control, and they were waiting until i would <^ome back. Mil. MaclaRKN—I was just thinking what bearing this had, and why thia came in and was relevant. Perhaps Urolher Uaaaidy will throw lonie light on it. What atruok rne waa tliii, that the (ix miaaionariei, when the," came to give their reaaoni for not reelecting Dr. MaedLtald ai Chairman of the Council, gave an a reaaon hi* action n the Nhixuoka church matter. That ia one of the reaaoni why I thought it came in here. It ia one of the reaaoni for their not reelecting Dr. Macdonald to the chairtnanahip. Mr. Camidv — That does give it lume degree of reler- anoy. They felt aggrieved tM>oauae of my abaence, but al soon ai my explanation got there, I do not think there wai any more about it. It came to me in a roundaliout way, and an unfortunate way, and really made me feel very uncomfortable ; but there ia nothing in it only the incon- venience of lieing 10 far apart. TilK C;hair«an— Hupiioio Dr. Macdonald had juit laid, "Now, that is Ciiasidy'a buaineia," and had gone oil' and left it, would it have entailed any trouble in the enterpriae? Mil. t-ASHiDV -Certainly it would. Dn, StJTiiKHl.ANii- Mr. Haraiwa alHrmi positively that had not Dr. Macdonald come to their rescue with eighteen hundred yen, it would have been the moral destruction of till' church ; it would have lieen serious. Mit. Cashiiiy— Certainly it would have been serioui. It would be serioui if we were to drop out of our placet at any time. There are many times if I had dropped down lome- body eUe's l>uiii ess on them they would have been in a bad position ; but we did not do that kind of thing. Now, the lirst disturbance arose over an item of i300. Mil. ('IIIHIIOI..M — Kveii in this country I do not find many Chairmen of Districts enlisting in cases of that kind. Once in a while it may be done. Kven in Canada, where a man has got into trouble with a church, ycm do not often tind that the Cliairninn itepi right in and aivuniei the obligation and puts it through. Till': CiiAiiiMAN — This was the Chairman of the Minion. Dn. SuTiii:iii,ANU~[ think Mr. Ciissidy ii speaking of his own case of Shizuoka District. Tin: CiiAiHMAN — [ am simply drawing an analogy. Mn. (!\HsioY — There are a great many things that have 'o 1)0 rei'koned ujon diUerently there. We always stand between anything of that kind and the Japanese. TiiK CiiAlKUAN — I think we ought to do it here, brother. In all reasonable enaes we ought to do it hero. I would think Dr. Macdonald was very much out of place if he had not done it, but th.it does not alter the other aspect. Mil. CassiiiY — 1 am not now saying he did a wrong thing, but A'hat I say is, if ho had taken this temporary way of relieving the position until ho unilerstood or com- municated with me, it would not have been nearly ao serious from the beginning as he thought it was. Mil. MAci.AitKN— Could you suggest to us how he could have done it I .Mn. Cas.sidy — He could have advanced to thorn 300 yen. All they asked for waa ,'iOU yen at the time. Jt was three iniinths afterwards before the church was finished. He could have advanord to them 300 yen, or the ."iOO yen to which 1 have referred, and written to mo about it. 1 waa still in Canada. Mn. Maci.aiikn -If he had written to you what solution could you have suggested / As I understood, the whole point of the matter seemed to bo this : Mr. Cassidy is re- presented as having mentioned the liabilities in connection with that church at 400 yen. Mil. Cassidy — Oh, no, plus a thousand. Mil. MAfLAltliN — As I understand, the thousand wag not stated. Mil. Cassidv Oh yes, it was. The Council will bear ine out unanimously that tlio tliomiand dollars was stated. TiiK CiiAiiiMAN — That would be in documents. It would not be a ipiestion of word merely. Mr. Caskidy -It is there. Dr. Macdonald haa admitted since that it was recognized, 'I'm: t'uAiiiMAN — In tiiiancial accounts? Mlt. Cassioy — No; it never went int.o the linancial ac- counts, because wo never put in a thing of that kind. A subscri|)tion that comes from the native \ ^ople wo never put into those accounts. I do not handle them at all. Mil. Maci.aiikn — Why was it not given in the liabilities that were given to your successor, Mr. Haraiwa, as one of the liabilities 1 ,*^ >»Wt'' "»"i"K- ^V *iM»j,i.i.>m»nm»i,n» ■▼WP«P"P» I'H^lfWK. IM GENERAL BOAllD OF MISSIONS, 1896. Mh. CAUinT--riu it WM given to him. Mr. Hi%r«iw« •ml I wniit or«r the whol« potition nml I fxplainad avary point to him. Mh. .MAd.AHRM Thn •hoin point of that to my mind WM thnt th*t thnuunil dullkri wai not put anionK tha liatiilitiic Your ntittomenl of liabilitimi (lid not include the thousand yen. Mr. C*«aii)V It WM not my at-oount, f(ir I had not the building ivccount. I had not that in my h»nd». I hud nut touched it from beginning to end. My chairnmn'i account never touched that thoutand yen. It wm borrowed by the Japanese from one of their own number. I did not know the interest they were paying upon it ; and when he (Mr. liiraiwat went to the Tru«tm< hoard itnd examined their )MX)ki, he uw it there, and h« came to nic and went over my account m Hiitriot Chairman, where I handled the fund*, and he put it together, and there wore ievente«-n hundred yen altogether. Tie taw the poaltion perfeirtly, and if they had had this three hundred or Ave hundren of this. I sent it right on. There wm almost one hundred dollars at once, at the rate of exchange. And u I went through this coun- try, the amount I considered I was responsible for I would have ha rained at once. [ w-e no other way but to earn the money by nnHiiciil work. I have accordingly a avoid liorrowinK and paying interest, m it is only a temporary condition, and 1 have a letter fnmi the Doctor, in which lie says, "Yes, ii is well to avoid inti'rest m far m we can,' and sinm tin- funds wi>re there and due me on the distriut, I could dn that, and so I did it. Of course that will explain the wns I ttMik It batik again. I could not du otherwise before cl anything mun' in this that re(|uinart of the four tlumsand t Mr. Cassiuv— It liain<>nt to give them three hundred yen out of my district fund. I intended only to carry this until I sold the lot. But the time ran on until the uhurch was burneks, and of ctmrxe I wtid to the Treasun'r wveral tiiiii>s, in giving them money, "This three b'indrerise and dissatisfaction at it, or an eml)arriiSHiiient, l)ecauao he saw that money wiis going to lie pretty scarce. I said, " It hun lieeii loitiKsl to you out of the Mission funds, and I will iiii'iition it to Dr. Macdonald ; nns|Miiisilile, I think be will give you the same acuommoda tion until I can me<>t it from Canaiia." I came away with the understanding with Mr. Hiraiwa that I would go as >|uickly as I could t.o Caniula and get to work. As h all taken out of my hands. Then on page 5,'l of Review "Home Mistakes t'orrei-ted." "Ilut in justice he should have aildisi that most of these enterprises were renderiil (Kissible oiilv by Dr. Macdontld's gifts fn>m the prucetsN of his luedii-al practice." If you will refer to the Mission ary Keport I do not know that anyone has that one here you will se)H'arH 111 Im) the f»ot that* fav(>r»l»lii rt>|ilv wm not irl(M| from ilii< ladic* ; »ncl th«n it i» iiliai< pniM for thn ii|iiMiiMtiiii-iil of Iwly iiiixHioiwirii'H, unci uerha|Ni thn atlitmlK of tin. Imlim wits not fitvoriilili-, mil tMt Iml you tH. HUTIIRHLAND 'nut illlliri>HNi(iii im>).|iih to lii> frniii tin' I ntriflu in tho Mini l<<«, iiml Iihhh llu> i'uri'nii(Miiulin «.'iit purely with n»fi>i^ni'i' U> (jciu'ml pfini'i|ili>», l»n. HirTiiBRLANU -Th« if I lull had anythinx to do with it. Mhm. liAROR —That wan not tin' nnun n'lvtim. |)B. HuTlltBLAMD— 'riml IH I'li'llf. Mkh. Lakok — I think tlm ii"4iiliitii>n |iliiin ilm coni'liisiiin «'• vnnw to. It iMkyK, iifUT u fnw Ihhun' , .inft'ii'Oi'i' thn ::''iillpm<^n roao to leave withniit nnytliintt ilrllnite lia\iii)r l..'1'n come t^i. The main (lilllriilly ii|i|>iti'i'nll\ Ix'iuK 'hit ilin women weri* not ninler llin ronliol ot' llii' Coiiin'il ot till' .lapan MiNMion. The wlmlr iilmt was tlitl the wiiini'ii sliiiuhi bo, in order to work hitrumniotiKly. uinlnr thmi' rulltml. Till Chairman — Wan that Nuhjeoi under diNOUMion — I hi' relation of the two CouuoiUI Mtw. Larhk Yen. Tmk Chairman -Diro|Hisitl ot' that kind t^kn uny \ isible and palpable Hhii(H' ' Mm. ImHOR — Not in the form nf n n'Moliitnni of any k ml. Thn nioeting of the dnpiiUttiim was Hiiu|ily ronvrr iiional. \Ik. CahhIDY"Ah a memlxT of tlm (li'|iiiliition. thnt is iliri'ctly opptxMxl to my own idnis of wimt llm t{int of it v\as, [ would like to hiivn \h. Corliiaii i'\|iii'ms liiihwlf in r.-iriii'd to what the olijnct of llial ili'|iillatioii «as, and vilii'lher it Im eorrect l<> «ay tliat thn .ilijinl of llm ili'|iiita imii waH to Kain control of tlm wonn'ii'H work in .lapaii, TllK CllAlltMAN U in a piojH'r lliiiiK for us to Imar from hr. (Cochran on that. Dr. HvTllKBI.ANl) -That is not statnd, llial tlir ohjni't of •III' dnputatlim wit.s to K"'" I'oiiliol. Mh. Lamulv — The riMtolution |ias.si'.l l.y the liniins sit,\s -" ilintinctly. Mil. Cabhidy T entin'ly dispute that whole iHwilion. I ii.-M'r took HUch a position. I wouhl like tti ask Dr, t'.rhran. I'llK CllAIHMAN I think from the eonversat ion we have li;nl, and Mm. Lar^eH slalnmnnt, it is in order to hmir Dr. t'.K'hran. Dh. CoriiHAN -1 went as I'lminiian of thai ili'|nitation, ii'.t that I had any |)ersonal eoinnin in thn lnisini'«s at all ; iliil is to Hay, I wan not pi'isoniilly loiiinTli'il with any nl iliese disputes, or any htek of lianimiiv , U'niiisn my woi-l- 'Ihl not o.'tive mission work where tlic two Societies have to work together, and if isKSsible wo drains to ntmovs any dlHloultii'ii, and to m»fu< niatt«n, throuKh iNrnvenation and nxplanation, a little more cordial ill the w'orkinK "' '''■" ^^'> ^Miintien," That was a utate- meiit that I made Ht the ofieninK of our Confomnofl. The oonveraation Kliiled into matters that relattsl to diiputea and ilillleulties, but unfortunately a |iauifln dispimition did not prevail. Thei-esult wiin to me a xrievous diMipp4iinttnent, and I returnml from that miH the (.'ounnil whnn I was appoint<«l that it was niy uonvietion Dr. Mnodonald should go as thn head of the deputittii .i. !)r. Macdoimid n'fuwsl to go, and the lirt'lhreii insistisl that I should go. I desireti that there might Im< two others ap|Miiiitll to appoint a deputation to wait on the ladies' Council in the pmsenoe of tho officers of the Woman's Missionary Society, and Dr. Mawlomild was asked lo take chargn' of the deinitation. He refused. My imnm was innntionnu I said ■. " Yea, if that is insisted by ihi' bivthrcn, but I must be acciunpanied by two of the lunlhrnii at least." That is the impression that 1 havj of it ; not that I was to be sent alone. I would not have thought of such a thing. T could not have undertaken it. That would not have been proper, I think, to send a deputation of one from our Council, 158 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 189«. Mb. Maclarrn— I would lik*? to iwk Dr. Cochran whether Dr. Ma<>lunnkl gave any a^iftl reason for n:>t forming (Nirt of thnt deputation 1 i>K. Con '. Dr. Cooiirai ri-at may have influenced hig decision. 1 would not -wy tiia' it did not. Uh. Si'YilKHi..\Nn-Dr. Macdonald affirms distinctly that he expressed himseir positively and stronfily in the Council c \ the matter ; refused to go, and naid that he would take no part in the crusade. Dn. T. ti. Williams - 1 would like to ssk Dr. Cochran a question. Were there any propositions made by the mem- bers of the deputation, of which you were one, that woi'ld convey to your mind the impression ths* the misjionirnoii wished to obtain control of the Woman's Missionary Society 1 Dr. Cochran — None whatever. Mr. BhTi -Was it talked of when you were fdrming the committee I Dr. CociiiiAN — No. Dr. T. (i. Williams — Did you gain that idea from any of ihe replies made by the members of the Woman's Mis- •lionary Soci'^tv to the propositions t Did you get the im|in*siiu)n that they had it in their mind that you wished to obtain coiifol 1 Dr. Cochran — 1 did not. That was fi,r from my own thoughts. It did not enter into my mind, and I would not have gathered 'rom the conversali'v^ -hat there was any disposition to i>ut our case in such a form that the lad'es would got *he impre&sion that we desired to control thci.i and their work. Thnt was not the impression that I ^ot of i!. Kut I will not dispute the ladies (eit on their siue tJiat that was what we verc after. Mr. I«AMaLV- But was there anything said by you' deputation, or was there any conversation which would justify the entry in their Minutes of this statement, that the apparent d'tliculty was that you wanted to get '.iicu under yoiir i-ontrol 1 Dh. Cocmr.w No. My recollection of the case does not convince me that th«re were elements in the convorsatio.i thrtt would Iciul to that, but I v/ill not say that from their point of view, and with the difficulties they seem to have had, they mav not have had that impression or convictirn Mm. Lam. i » — Was there anything to juUify that con- viction ? Mr. Cochran ' )thing to justify it, to my mind. Thk Cinnm.vN You say that certain things wire in vour mind the Kana/awa ditti.iulty and things of that kinil. Were they conve.-sed aljouM Dr. Cochr\n They were. Tmk Chmkman Was there candor ni:d anything like •traighi'orward and face-to face meeting of these ma'.ters by nam • und stating the difliculty, to see how it ci ptcmb£r, 1892, ami the interview took place in July, 1892. T'lL-refore, it could not possibly aflTtHit that interview. The Chairman — It may have grown out of it. We will have it read, if any party wishes to rtiad it. .Mrs. Strachan -July, 1892. (Reads resolution). Tins had lioi'ii sent a flay or two before, and in introducing l>r CtH-liran Mrs. Large (juoted froM this. There seemed i.i 1)0 u misunderstanding, and Dr. C«x?hran Raid, "We diil not come to deal with the.se misunderstandings." l>it. CocKRAV — At'ould Mrs. (^Sooderham allow me i.. make a'l ex|)lanation and recall my woids 1 I stated llni I said in opcnin^i ih? mission of our deputation, "We u. not here to settle any Riievance." Now, that I adheri' t,i There were inisunuerstandings sufticiont to '■auae disli.ir niony, mid we were there to talk over these. But weil;il not ciiiiie to make clmrgoB or settle any grievance. Thai WHS my word — "fjiievance." 1 deny that there was aiiv grievance. There is a (lifTerence lietween settling a gre^ aiice in which t'.ere are charges imcN and an investigatinn to Is' had, and a con vei nation, mutua! '«id open, to rei'ime inisunderstrtiidiiigs, and promo*; luirinony in the « .iV That Wiis our misHion. I would Ik; glad to answer anv i|ueHiion that I am able to answer. M"'M. LAiuiK— This is the iti'in from the Minutes ; I'r. Cy, win- «a~ then 1(11 the iiii>untains, aiut would have lv?r-ii at no expi'iiM' —why it was that ho was not one of that deputation I l>R. CocHi \N -I cannot answer that ((uestion furllur than to say Mr. Haunb^- desired t" accompany us, bul let that his pc •.^onco might be an embarrassment ; th.ii ii would 1)6 un.eicome, if I rightly recollect. I need U> iiiv carefully probe my own mind so aa not to moke any (.uie impressions, because I am only speaking from memory, not from record, calling up what I can of wlmt transpire.l in connection with that matter. Mr. Obibi chorooter pn arrangemenl Dr. Coch: glided into < of dispute ; i moments of fortunate. Thr Cuai Mr. Casbi what has be< nature of the appointment ment of Mr. corned, I hai We thought have been, i I'ogardod as i something th who have no principles " a .sweet harmo name is as80< What I have that I was sc 1 say that wi from Shizuok if they had Shizuoka whi had gone thei have be<;n su My mention c tion wiih thi: the best of arrangement we were prep to more perft remember ine with us much good relation which we con was the only there, as [ ui who had no i grievance. Th.-Chaii tationl Wh advance couk is a critical p you get on w in your propi Mr. Oassm PROCEEDINGS BE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 169 ttf >L. We will Mb. Cbi81>^;.m — Was there any proposition of o general character presented by the deputation to the ladieH of any arrangement at all 1 Dr. Cochran— I think not. I think that tiio matter (glided into a conversation ; tiie conversation raised points of dispute ; the dispute became a little warm at certain momenta of it, and the result, as I have said, was not fortunate. It was a disappoii'tment to me. Thk Chairmaj*— Now, Urother Cosaidy, you may go on. Mr. Cassiuy— 1 may be permitted to add a word to what has been said. You have a very clear idea of the nature of the deputation, ond lh(t result. In regard to the appointment of the men who went, and to the nou-appoint- tnont of Mr. Saunby and Dr. El)y, and those directly con- (•erned, I have a distinct recollection of why that was done. We thought, "Connected with these men there are, or liave been, some little ditlicultiea ; some that might he ■.egarded as more than merely gentTiil principles. Tliere is something that is local in each ease. We will send men wh<. have no grievances, but who can deal with general principles" and, as I said there, try to win everything into .iweet harmony. That is what we aimed at. Now, my name is associated there witli what appears to be dIHUuUy. What I have stated now seemstobeoimtradietory to that ; that I was sent as one « f those who had no dilhculty. So I say that was my position. The ladies who were there from Shizuoka, I think, will bear me ou* in saylag that they, if they had been asked if there were any ditliculties iii Shizuoka when I went there, would have .sain no, and if I had gone there and said there wer(( difficulties they w.iuld have been surprised. So I went with the same feeling. My mention of what was in Shizuoka wi.s merely ;'n illustra- tion wiih this intent, that even at Shizuoka, where we are the best of friends, while there is .something in our arrangement which could Iks improved along such lines as we were prepare'> complaint of grievance. Ths Chairman- What was the impression of your depu- tation? What appeared to you to be the real reu.sons no advance could lie made? What was the trouble! There is a critical point What wius the trouble ! Why i.'ouMn't you get on when you met 1 It wius imt in you, it wn-, lu.* in your propositions. Now, what was the trouble ! Mr. Oassidv - It appears to me as tliougli, p(>iliaps, we (lid not approach the matter as wisely as we should. As the Doctutation. I was very soriy that anything should Imve crept into that. Dk. Potts — Still, Mr. Cassidy, the terms of che resolu- tion wore in harmony with the facta of the case. There were misunderstandings t Mn. Cassidy— "i'es, the case of the Tabernacle, ',^/.?'S»*^*«jA"»«w!':: 160 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1896. Dr. Pom — It was a true and honest resolution. Mr. Nixon — Was Dr. Maodonald present when this resolution was formulated in Council 1 Mr. Cassidt — Certainly he was present. The Council never sat without him. Mr. Nixon — -And he allowed it to pass with the word " misunderstanding " in the resolution '( Mk. CASsiDY-Yes. Du. Sutherland Dr. Mtuxlonald was Chairman, and I think this is the timi' when he said he would have no part in this crusade. Thb Chairman — He refused to go with the deputation. Dr. ToVBLt, — It seems to rae that the intention of the deputation really was that tliey should piivo the way, if it wero {>ossible, for the cletkring away of deflnite misunder- standings. Maylje Dr. Cochran could thmw a little light on that. Miss Blackmore — When this resolution ctimo to us it was the very first intimation we liiid that there was a want of harmony between the two Councils. Mrs. CtiXKlerliam questioned us individually and collectivelj* in regard to what we knew of a want of harmony with the agents of the General Hoard, and there was very little that anyone had to sa}-. For myself I had practically nothing, for it has been my fortune or misfortune to spend most of my term in Jaiian in a district where there an> no foreign agents of the (teneral itoanl. In our conversation we were utterly at nea to understand what Wiis meant by want of harmony. There liiul Ix-en cases whore the agents of the (teneral iliHird had iniule i'e<|uests of us which wc could not, under the limitation under which wc workeen good we have followeil it, and it Iiiim been followed in many cases. Sometimes we have only followwl part of it, but their advice has hel()ed us, and we would have Ix'en very sorrj' to have lost the privilege of consulting with them and obtaining their views : Imt we were not reiuiv to bind ourselves to always follow the advice, and that seemed to l>e the reason why they considerisl their deputation a failure, liecause we were not reaiiy Ut biml ourselves tJ> always follow their advice. Indeed, Mr. Crummy said it made them feel sore when they lulvised us that the advice was not followed. That they waiit<»d a closer union of their Council, whi^-h would do away with that dithculty — onr Uiking advice ami tlien not following it. Dr. CorHHAN It seemed to me al.-i.j that imr resolution transmittetl t

    . It created alarm in tlie miiids of the jadii-s, and that condition of anxiety did not prepare them, I Ix^lieve, to receive us as we hiwi ho[«fl t/) Ik- recoived. I do not mean to say that tliey presenU'd a liostile attitude towpnis us when we eanir, but there « an .'Nidently iiiixi<'ty. In regard to the mis umlei-staiidiiig.'i, 1 li;ul no cognizance by personal knowlislge of the misuiidei standings. Hut it wiw well known to us in Tokyo, to myself and to others, that the working was not snujoth in Shizuoka, that it was not simsitli in Kana- zawa, that it was not snu^th with the Hongo Taliernacle, and that at two or three points there was friction. To point distinctly to what the exaot friotion wm ia a diili culty, OS you may have gathered from the conversation yesterday and the day before in this room. They were very small matters indeed, oonsidercHi in themselves, but they created trouble, and they discounted tiic efficiency and comfort of the working of the Society as between these agents. Now, I hod hoped that the whole matter would be dealt with, that some general result would have been arrived at that would have put misunderstandings out of sight and bring in a new order or mode of working that would have helped us. That is how it impressed me at the time. TiiK Chairman— Brother Cassidy has said that in his place as Chairman of the District he felt that the Discip line must lie adrainisUsred. Now, how stringently wa.s that in Brother Cassidy's mind, and perhaps in the miiiils of his helpers, that the Discipline of the Methodist Churcli, as it is administered in this land afibcting Sundey Schools, where there are well crystalized associations, and over\- thing established, how closely did Brother Cassidy think that that Discipline could be bror.ght down on the Sunday Schools forming there, in their germinal coi>dition in ,i missionary lantl 7 Mr. Cassidy — I had no severe or strict idea on that line. I simply n-garded the Discipline as the outline of the Church organization. It was in all our hands. I never attemptds of tin- Church Sabbath Schools, and that any work we did as the Woman's Missionary Society was l)eyond wliiit we gave to the ('hurch Schools. I said yesterday that we had never had any difiicuity with any of the pastors in Tokyo o' in Azabu in regard to this matter. I forgot to Bay that '< .ut Septemlier our teachers in the Azabu Sabbatli Schools came back one Sunday afternoon from the teachers meeting very full of something they had learned. Tlnv came immediately to me for information. They said the pastor h'vd brought up a constitutional point, or a discip liiiary point, that hotl lieen presented to him ; that he had said, "I am told that all Sabbath Schools in Azabu Distrii) are to Ih» brought under the control of the Sabbath Sch'inl Committee in connection with this church. Up to ti time there have lieen four or five Sabbath Schools carrii on by the girls' school that have not l)«eii presented befoiv the committee. I oxprest no opinion whatever, but T would like to know what the opinion of the teachers here is with regard to it. If we have lieen out of order, or if they hav lieen out of order, I suppose it is time to bring them int" line." Our girls objected that the schools carried on and supported by the Woman's Missionary Society, had nothing' 'M ia a diHi oonverMtioii L They were temselves, but tiie eflicieiK'y between these matter wouM Id have beiMi ^dings out of working that M«d me at the 1 that in liis at the DiHcip ringently was in the miiiiis lodist Church, ndpy Schodls, IS. and every Cosaidy think •n the Sunday Di>dition in ii idea on tlint the outline of lur hands. I Lie on any one r Schools, WIU-. her by Jnpnii ) bring tiiosr le of the Dis that kind e one fund or one Council 1 Mrs. Oooderiiam— No, sir. Hut 1 do not think it s generally understood by the brethren here that the Woman's Society does not send agents into a new field unless they are invit«>d by the '■ gents of the (ieneral Society. When a woman is sent into the tii-ld, as in the case of Miss Cunningham, who was sent to Kanazawa, the ground "f complaint seemed to I*, especially with Mr. Saiinby, that when a woman was so appointed, tliat he should have the whole control of her time, and that the Woman's Conn- ell should not say how much time she was to give, but that he should say that. That impressed mo as ,i very unjust thing, and one that the women in Canada would not support, Mr. Cassidv -May I be allowed to ask a queition. I»id Mr. Saunby distinctly mean that he was to control her time, or did he mean that the control of her time and U her work was to be settled by a consultation with those on the field, instead of referring it to Tokyo for instance t Was that his point 1 Or did he claim the right to control her time and dictate her work 1 Mrs. Gooderhah — I think that she was to do the kind of work that he thought she ought to do, and give as much time to the work, or the work purely among the women, as his judgment would feel was required. When the question of the Tabernacle was mentioned, as I remember it, we had it i.: our minds that Miss Cushing had been broken down in beai'h in connection with the work. We had taken her into urr home. Something was said about a woman going there and being broken down in health, then what was to becouc of her? Oh, it was said, "You must give us two stronger women." The question was, who is going to take care of a woman who has broken down in health, if she is entirely under the control of a man who has given her more work to do than any woman could do, and retain her health. What ia to become of her then t The answer we got, as I have read it, was, " Oh well, you must just take her away, and give us two stronger women." The Chairman — Have you any idea who said that? Mh.s. Goodeuham — I cannot tell. Mks. LAHtiE---Mr. Cassidy made •^^hat statement. Mit.s. Gooi)EHHA.M- Are there any other questions you would like to ask '! Mk. Cassidv— 1 would ask Mrs. Gooderham if she dis- tinctly remembers my having made those statements in regard to the fund 1 Mrs. Gooderiiam — No. I stated I did not remember the question of funds. Mr. Cassidv — Do you distinctly remember my having m.ide the statement that you have now made, that if one woman could not do all the work a man would give her to do, the only remedy was to take her away, and send two others in her place ? M i(H. Goodkrham - Yes. I cannot remember whether it was you, but I understand by the Minutes that such a statement was made. .Mn. C.vs.siDV Did you get the impisssion that 1 was of the opinion that we should have only one fund, or one (.'onncil, to control your work entirely ) Mks. Goodehiia.m — Only just in this way, that I thought it was distinctly stated. One remark was, and I think it came from you, that the agents of the Woman's Missionary Society of the Canada Methodist Church were not under the control of the missionaries as much as the women of some other societies. You used that expression, if T remember rightly. -Mii. Cassidv - That is all I have to ask of Mrs. Gooder- ham, but I would like to ask if any other person remembers my having made that statement in regard to the fund 1 Miss MoRfiAN- I do. Mh. Cassidy Did you write it down 1 Miss .MoKtiAN — No, sir. Mr. Cassidv -^-Is there any other one who remembers it 1 Miss Lizzie Haht — I remember the statement being made that the money should be handled as all one, in one fund '. that all funds should be .imde one. The Ciiaihman — Who made the statementi Miss Mohoan-- Mr. Cassidy. Mk. C\.ssidv -I am very sorry to be placed in a position where I have to emphatically deny that statement. Now, I ask Mrs. Strachan to say whether she thinks that is in harmony with the facts 1 Mrs. STiiAriiAN -I have no recollection with regard to the claim being made to control our funds, t do not say that it was not said. Afti'r the introduction had been made, and reference to the misunderstanding, Mr. Cassidy l)egan to speak ; mentioned that there seemed to bo a danj'er of having too many Societies. There were the agei 8 of the (ieneral Board, and of the Woman's Mission- ary Society ; there was likely to be clashing. Mk. Cassidy — May 1 help your memory 1 There was a Japanese Home Missionary Society. There was just then a talk of a Home Woman's Missionary Society, and then an Intercollegiate Society. • Mrs. Strachan — Yes, and there was the danger of there being too many Societies, and he thought it ought all to be in one, and he said, " Be as one machine," or " work as Ml '•.^..1 ■- ;»■ ■*ii-:'?W'^'*?»ii^l^^'?£i?^ ..,4»^'.';«ji*v\.y^,.j,:k,ri'..',''ir-.'--J5«'4'.R let QSNERAL board of missions. 1885. on* mtohine." I think from tlwt came the impreasion that there must be only one, and that one was to be the Society of the Qeneral Board ; that all were to be sub- ordinate to it. 80 far aa I can recollect, that was the origin of the idea ot subordination. The Chairman — Were those words used, "the one machine," or " work as one machine f " Mrs. Strachan — The word " machine " was used. Mr. Cassidv — I feel very much indebted to Mrs. Sirachan. That throws a good deal of light upon it. There is the interpretation. I do not h>ive to, by implicn- tion, accuse anybody of saying what is absclutely iiiitruo. There is the meaning, vyjien you make allow.^nce for mis- understandings, and for one being a long way afart, and a long time apart. Then I said there was already tlio Oenci. '. Society, and the Woman's Missionary Society, and the home Japanese Missionary Society, and there was a little talk of a Woman's Home Missionary Society, and then a Collegiate Society ; and that I thought it would be well for us to remember that we were one organization, and keep together as one organization, and not split up into so many bodies. I had no idea of interfering in the Council of the AVoman's Mission. Tub Chairman — You do not deny using that expression " one machine," or " work as one machine." Mr. Cassidy — In the connexional sense t Thk Chairman — Would you not say that the ladies were justified in their inferences when you were working under that resolution t Mr. Cassidv — I do not think so, because wf talked around a great many things. Thb Chairman — That is one of your troubles ; if you had just talked straight it would not have happened, perhaps. Mb. Cassidy — We were not talking of distinct misunder- standings. This was simply a general couversatioti. I never thought of hearing it again in this shape. There is the ezplaaation of it. Dr. Cochran — I have no very distinct recollection of phrases or words, but my recollection is substantial ly in accordance with what Mrs. Strachan has said. I do not thii'.k 1 have anything further that would contribute to the information. Dr. Pottb — Did you get the impression that Mr. Cassidy was advocating one fund and one Society 't Dr. Cochran — No ; I did not get that impression. Mr. Cassidy — 1 am glad to know this. I think it is very siitisfactory. Mrs. Gooderham admits that she has no recollection of that ; Mrs. Strachan admits what she says, and Dr. Cochran has no recolleclinn ; and if it had been said these two odtcial ladies would have remi'mbured every sentence of it, and every sylloble of it, thert- is no doubt abuut that ; it would have iH-en rcint'iiibered very distinctly. So that whoever has taken that impression has made an entire mistake, and it is a statement that never was made. Miss Blackmokk- I stated before I distiiictlv n-menilier Mr. Cassidy making that su^jgestion. It was not lnouKht out emphatically. We were in general conversation as to how to bring a)>out a closer union in uur work. Mr. Crummy had sut^gested the idea of our l^eiiig dcacoiiotses in the Church. This was not very well nceived. In fact, it was let drop. Mr. Ciusidy spoke in this way of our working together, and having a common fund. It seems to nil) that was the way it wan spoken of, and that il pro- duced electricity, and was dropped imiiirdinttdy. .M r, ( 'ussldy did not pursue it. But further conversation went 011 in regard to havuig but one Onui'cil, and we talkril about that. We did not take that as we did the mutter (if a common fund. .Mr. Cassidy further bruu}>lit out this idea, that in this Council we were tit, as mii-iiiIxms, to dincuBS affairs connected with the women's work, but we would have no share in discussing afliiirs connected with the work of the agenti of the General Hoard. Mrs. Strachan I merely wish to say that one Society would have resulted in one fund. It could not hiive been wu>rked otherwise. So that I suppose the fund was in- cluded. Mr. Cassidy— I do not think so at all, Jir. Chairman. My idea was far from that. I am sorry to \iome now to the letter given on page 68 of the Secretary's Review. Like the Shizuoka church affair, I am very sorry thia was ever put in here. I do not aee why it could not have been left alone. I complained of it ever having come to the public. I think Mrs. Large made a great mistake in ever making it public, and has taken a very different meaning of it from anything that was ever intended, and of the day on which it hap|>enofl allowed tlie op|v)rtuniiy of meeting the committeo or making any explanations he may wish." "The Secretary was iji structe<( to writhat I itid the wisi-st thing in it. I do not claim that 1 liaM' made no ini.slnkeN ; I do not claim to be infall il)l" If I hud liiul tho h^tit idea of this ietter lM>ing wliai il was taken to lir', it never would have Ijeeii written, anil never would have lieen sent. I state that frankly. Ami when I h.ave said that, I think I have h .id alinost all tli.ii is necessarv t« k.;- I think the Is-st intriKluction lo au undersliiiding of my (Mwitioii, when I wrote this leltei-, i- given in .Miss Mnnros lett«'r. Miss Muiiro's st^ilennnt \* pirtiruUrh uiiti-cttiil to mw ttu- foliiiwin^, whirh wiu iiiovihI \iy Mr ('An)il.. I'l M-t-oiiitt-il liv Mr. KiKiliy The itKlirilKl tinei (^iiitaln th« (iliJt-'-tioiiublv |mi "To umiol t itiinionartM to the tiireiirli tielili, Ak a H-kltf of RllltfiHtH vA (Hhrr Mliiwaiii'i'* fii< iiiluinniru'i on eftt'li uf tunh tureltrn Aeliis ; iilrh Wftlvs i m I \>t Butijt-rl to rvviaiun tiy the Oeiif ri4l tloanl ftt any ot Ui annual mmIoiis, f/rm r ' 4 alirauf ff"tt w anit rhitn'/t ti inaiU 1" iht ditaitvantaijt i\f n tni««iotiari/ /tireitjn fifUi withtivl Aii Ainivnf, rti- A fhnngt thnUmtt b4r>\/orc*duntit kt rrivi :j or Aim hnd IK* tipl-un uf nturn lo tk4 AuifM yntrk:' Th« proviso WMIutjMqui-ii ^.v rMcliHlMi by tht Conftrdic*. '■T'^^^^^p^SP^T^f^Tr^^ .-'TW''^'^'^" ■"-•J^TT^ PROCEEDINGS HE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 168 written with an unkindly intention. It was a grief to my own heart to find it was written on the dny on which it was. In fact, I was go grieved over our troiililea I never even thought of the day. If 1 hiid \vm thinking of lier griof that day instead of my own, it might Imve lipon letter. That is how it was. I wan so intensely grieved I had to go home. I heard all around mo things that made me think very sadly for our work ond for our Missions, and this was written in the intensity of my desire to try to Bnd something that would bring us together, and would cause a better understanding. 1 do not think \ need go into an analysis of the subject, or go any further with it. Mb. Kettlewkll— Is this the tirst time that you liave expressed your regret at the writing of it '( Mr. Cassidv— Not at all. If you read the (lo( uments you cannot ask that question. Mr. Kettlewell— I wished to bring that out Mr. Cassidv — My feelings for reconciliation only needed to be touched in any way, and I was reati)- to do anything I could to bring al)out reconciliation. The moment I thought tlere was anything tliat possibly had any griev- ance, I los. no time. Mr. Kettlkwbll — Then you wrote another letter in reply J Mr. Cassidy— Yes, certainly. There is one, I think, that is not heic at all, that was written before any of these in regard to th" Hates ; that was written immediately I discovered my mistake in that regard. Mr. Nixon — Tliat letter is not here. Mr. Cassu^y — I have not seen it. I think it is not here. Dr. Sutherland — I put in all the letters in my pos- session. Mr. Cassidv — There is one beloro the one quoted here. The one in reference to the date, I thi.iK, is not hero. I do not think you had it. Dr. Sutherland. I do not mean to say you left any out. Mr. Lamblv — In the first column of page GO, nciir the top, you say ; "I expr my .sinrere and hearty riigrt- 1 for all these errors and oversights." Mr. Cassidv— But that was not the first. Dr. Suthehland — And on page 5H, second column, I say, " after this several letters were written by Mr. Cassidy, explaining his former commuuicatioriK. and demanding that the ladies rescind some i>f their resolutions. Two of these are quoted hero as cip\ering the whole ground. ' Mr. Cassidv — That is all right, but I am satisfied there is one before. Mrs. Large — I think I have the letter to wliicli Mr. Oassidy refers. Tub Cii.mrman — If Mr. Ca.ssidy wishes it read ( Dr. Sutiikuland — Is that the first ooe receiveil by you after the letter of which you complain I Mrs. Lahck — It is. The fir.-tt letter was written "Tokyo, April 6th, 1893.' Thi.s is "Tokvo, April 7th, 1893." (The letter was read as follows) ; "Dkar M<;s. LaroE,— As 1 feel our present position to bo very painful mid unsuitable iis inissii)imriu9. 1 heg ti> iiiiike a prupoiiition to you Hlong tliu line nf wliiit I wrote vestord ly ; imj please do liol UMiierstaiid luy letter o{ ye.-'lenlay tii luoiin that the fault was nil on yunr si le. 1 (Id imt think tliiit for a mnnient. My proposition is simply tli.it we drop all distussions on businosi matters, and ill (jrii'vancos on butli sides, in porfeet sdoiico ; if any pliii of work is to come up, lot us discuss it in upon nieotingi simply when all are present, and noom; will get .mvthing secondhand. If you will receive mo as a fne id, I will goto you as such, and Imve nolliinijto say, yool, bail or mdifforont, in regar I t ■ your l»niness matiors, or ihe points that have arisen botween us. IVrhipn if we thus opened the uay to renewal of friendship, all occasii n for ill-feeliiii; on b ith sides will pass away. I shall try on my P nt to give no oocasion for ro|>orta to you cmcoming ine, good or bid. and will y.iii ploaso. as fai as imsaiblo, receive none until tliu days of beit,.r iiiidentanding come. " Sincoridy yours, "F. A. C.»ssinv." Mr. Cassidv— Is there not one referring to the datel Mrs. Larok -There is a second one ; and there is still a third. This is one of them ; "Sir.ZL-oKA, A/irll^lh, 1893. "DlAR Mrs. LAWiK.-Dr. MacdonaUl Ini just writtan to iniorm ma of the way in which you took my letter of th« othtr day. I must hasten to apologize for having sent it on the date of Mr. Largu's funeral. It never once occurred to me that it was the anniversary nf your great sorrow, and not until now did I know it was the anniversary of the funeral. I must sincerely he^ your pardon for my thoughtlessness in that respect. Why should yon take it as such an offence that I as one individual shoulil think you did not need to defend yourself? 1 was afraid nftorwards that I had written the letter badly, and that some tilings I said in it might be taken up differently from what I intended them to be. My mcanini; is klmply this, that your womanly Christian dignity is enough to protect you against all unfair reports ; if you simply rested in that you Would be sur- rounded by friends," and so on. May I just say here that there were no difficulties be- twoeen Mr. Cassidy and myself to call forth these letters. Mr. Cassidy had oalled on me the previous .September, ond we talked for two hours. We shook hands, and Mr. Cassidy expressed his satisfaction v/i(h the conversation that we hail; that he thought it was better lo talk over things, and to know how each stood. He did not know that either of us would change our opinions, but still, talk- ing did not, necessitate our being bad friends. I agreed with Mr. Cassidy. We shook hands, good friends, and I thanked him for his call. I saw Mr. Cassidy the following day, when he came to call on Miss Hart, but I do not think I saw him from that time — well, I had no interview with him during r intervening months between September and the time the letter was addressed. Dri. SuTiiKBLAND— Perhaps I ought to say that having heard these letters read, they do not appear to be entirely now to me. It seems as .hough I must have in some way heard or seen these letters liefore, and yet in preparing this Ke\iew I cannot positively say from memory whether either of those letters were in my possession. If they were, then I suppose I assumed that these two letters that are printed covered the whole ground, and that the others were only a repetition. But I hardly need to say that nothing has been intentionally omitted. The CiiAiH.MAy— How would they have come to you? Dr. Sl'tiiehland — The letters of which I have copies were transmitted by Mrs. Large. Mrs. LAi'.m-: — I have no distinct remembra ". of the other letters being sent to Dr. Sutherland. I would like to say this, that the ladies demanded from me Mr. Cas- sidy's letter, and then it was on the opinion of the Council that the fiituie piooeedings were taken. I do not remem- ber whether those letters were sent to Dr. Sutherland or not. Dn. Potts — It is assumed, I suppose, that Mr. Cassidy's apology was accepted aiul regarded as satisfactory t Du. SuriiEULAND — The record is here, and the Council's action with regard to it. I '1! Pi rns — That they were 1 Dit. Si'TiiEiiLAN'D- Yes. This will cover Dr. Potts' question. "On receipt of the second letter the following was passed." (Reads extract, page GO, column 1 of Review.) That is the record of the Council proceedings. There is uiore, but that is the record that touches the point more cs[>eoially. Ml!. lii'K.'iTls— I feel somewhat perplexed as to what led up Id the production of these communications, whether it was lh"ir relation otiicially that led to this want of har- mony, or whether it was simply personal matters that arose betwci'ii families and so on. I cannot understand how a letter liki> that cotild be produced What provoked itf I would like to know whether it was personal difficulty. Or. Potls — Is it wise to go into that any further'! JIu. IIiKsTis — If there were dilficulties arising out of their otlicial relations, 1 think we ought to go into it ; if it rel ite" to othei matters, I think we had better not. Mas. LMioK —May I just say this : I think in justice to Mr. ( 'assiily ami myself it is right that 1 should say that I know of no family dilliculties or personal difficulties of any kind at all. .Any unpleasantnesses that have arisen between .Mr. Cassidy and myself have grown out of the work, so far as 1 know. Mil. CASSIDV — The only answ^ev I can make to that is, that Miss Munro gives a better description of it in her statement than I could give. It is a very difficult thing to describe, but there were a great many things, in many of wiiich I was not personally concerned, that grieved nae f^^'^^p«?!?fR^*epr' 164 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1895. very inuoh at tho time, and I felt very, very sorry nml Mtxioufi over them, and I took that step, perhapa unad- viaedly, with the view of trying to brrnkk -« ly the clouds and get to a better understanding. (Adjournment at 12.10 until 2 p.m.) The Board resumed at 2 p.m. After the reading of the Minutes of the morning sefsion, the UoanI resolvoti itself into ConimitttH' of the Whole. Mil. AlKiNS- Beforo pniceeding any further with the statement of Mr. Ciussidy, the sulj-oomraittee is now pre- pared Ut report. There are membei-s of this committee that would like to have this question c1os«k1 liefore the time they would be compelled to IcAve, and if Mr. Coi^idy does not have more than half an hour ! think wo can eiisily get through. Mr. Cnssidy says that he can finish in half an hour. Tm Chaibmas — We will call on Mr. Cassidy. Mr. Cassidt — Just following tho paper in the oi-der in which it comes, there are some points I seem to have touched on a little incoherently. I will refer to |)age C7 of the Review, at the foot of the page: "At a further meeting of the Committee held April 'J6t.h, Mr. Oassidy, being present, was heard at length in regard to his own case," and so on. As you know, I have protested all along against the metluxl of pnKeeding in my case. I do not know that there is any (Mirticular object in still liattling against that, only 1 nni going through the paper, and if it is supposed to he worth putting here it is worth answering. At tho time I declined to attempt toen brought to the floor, lus otht-rs have l)etin here t<>-diiy or yesterday, and a.<)kcaragrapli say, " Mr. Ciutsidy, lieing present, was heard at h-ngth I" Mk. Cujsidv — Thai- i.s liable t'l lead iicrsiiiis to think that jKwsibly I did ciiscuss u\y ca.s<» and defend niy.self, which I did not do, liecuus. 1 did not kni>w what was raised against me. As you remember very well, T simply gave reawms why I Uumght I should ni>t l)e di.tniissed without an opportunity of defending myself. Dk. .Suthkrlam)— At this meeting of the committee, Mr, Ca.s.t'dy addressed us for a full hour one afternoon or evening, and tli<^ next morning was heard for half an hour further. I'art of the misapprehension is that Mr. t'lussidy will iasist that he must have lieen guilty of .some crime, and therefore it was our l>ounden duty to prefer chargci, and invesligan- and try liim, and that we have not e put in that )«wition. Of course the a-ssuranoi. given me here, that nothing was int«uil<'l. ^n, is somewliat of a miHliticalion, but it was not to me a satis- fa':lion, Ijecause the matttir was t serious in my caoe. Not that I tneant it was reganied with too great levity, but it is t I Is it simply a fact that the Executive did not tm iU way clear to return you to Jap»n 1 Is that the point 1 Mh. C.\uidv — No. It is boMUM the Exeoative did see its way clear to dismiss me. Mr. llncBTis — I do not regard that as a dismiiaal. Dh. Sutherland— Certainly not. Mr. Hukstis — It seems there is a misunderstanding. If the Executive think it is not expediebt that he should Ix' sent back again, if the Executive in its judgment does not see its way clear to send Mr. Oaasidy back to Japan, I can not see how that affects the man's standing. That is what 1 would like to see. Mr. Maclarrn I would like to clear up the point. I wal^ not at the previous meeting when the action » Cs taken, but 1 was at the meeting to which he refers. I W( .Id ask him if it was not said over and over again, in the kindliest pussihli' way, that he was not put on trial, that it was not in the nature of charges, but that the Executive, in the exercise nf their judgment, as Mr. Huestis has put it, thought that it was not in the interests of the ikKiety that he should go back to Japan under existing circumstances t The further point was mentioned, that the action that had been taken at a previous meeting was taken with a view of securing harmony Iwtween the two Societies. Was not that said over and over again in the kindest possible way, and were you not assured over and over again that they did not look upon it as a trial, and that it was a misconcootion on youi part to put it in the nature of charges, trial aad dismissal I That was not what was involved or intended, and that was misconstruction and misconception of their action. Mil. L'Assinr -Have I not put the case distinctly in that letter, or appeal, that I sent to the General Superintendent ' Is that available t Mk. Maclarrn- Well, have I not fairly stated what took place there ? Mh. Cassiuv — Oh, yea, I was assured over and over again ; but I felt it, and still feel it, to be a serious injur\ to me, and I think I can call for testimony. I will call on one whom I never heard speak of it until to-day, but it accounts today for things I did not understand before Would Mr. (.jforge liobinson, of Iy>ndon, tell us whether he thinks that it injured me in the Methodist society where he is licquainted or not I Mil. RoiiiNsoN — I think it has injured Mr. Oossidy verv much. I think every person here will know of the troublt- we had in London last spring, and during the last eight or nine months. Our church was burned and our minister died. Some parties very kindly came up from Toronto anil preached for us different Sundays. Mr. Cassidy was goiii;; around in London a great deal of the time, and we nevci asked him once. There was a cloud over him. He was ;> friend of my own. 1 was afraid to say anything to him. I thought there was something very serious behind this. I could not understand it, nor could a great many of tli> London friends. T did not know what it was. I cani."i understand yet why he was dismissed without having an) charge against him. This whole charge that is in tLii Ueview, I cannot see what is in it. J)ii. .SuTiiEKLANii Will Mr. Robinson kindly tell u- what led him to think there was something serious, ..i that Mr. Cassidy was 'son What do you call it? T^et me kni what it is t Dk. Hi;tiikhland — I wish to know what reowm you li;i'i for thinking that Mr. Ctusidy was dismi.ss<-d. Mk. Robinson He was either dismissed or suspen'l< < Dii. Huthkki.ani)--No, neither ime nor the other. A Mkubkr Recalleu. Mk. Robinson — I would like to know what different there is Iwtween the two 1 Dk. Sutherland- -What led you to entertain tlmi opinion 1 Mr. Robinson -Because of the feeling all over tiji country. I refer to London, I was living there. -Ty^r^nm n;uij..'.i.ji^-^y^^^m^ PROOEEDINOS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 165 «ted what took at Mr. Caasid Txit m« kii.' Tm OHAIRMAM—What wai the origin of it 1 How did it get abroad 1 Mb. RoBiiraoN — The reason was not got. A year before that, when Mr. Citasidy came along, every church around wanted to have him at that time and for some time after- wards. I do not know if ho spoke in a cliuroh in Iy)n(lon. I do not know if he was over oaked to appear before an ikudienoe. The feeling was that there was something liehind this, that there was a cloud over Mr. (lasHidy, and that he could not get out from under it ; and the feeling is that way to<'(!n dealt with as ^uch. Dr. Sutheulanu — %Ve have had lases frf(|Uently. in which, owing to the opinion of the Kxecutivc, a man has lie^^n recalled from the Indian work and si-iit into the White work, simply In-eause it was thought lii! was not suited for work among the Indians, and yet I have to l{!am of the first case in which such a man fi'lt himseli itggrieved, or in which his character was regarded as undei' a cloud, or anylxxly su»|n'cted t'.iere was souielliing behind iM this that we did not state. Ft is ihn most simi>le i-ommonplace thing in the world to change a man from one department of work to another. Mb. RonissoN— It is quite e.xsy ; but there wits enough ippeared in the i)a|wrs, and there was talk enough around, lo draw \he attention c)f the jieople to Mr. Cassidy. Then, when he was recallefl, this brought it to a kind of a focus. They thought there was something more than they uiuler- «t«od. I have heard things talked of and said that it must be this and that ; it must Ixi \ery serious. I do not like to mention this here. Things very seiious I heard mentioned about Mr. Cassidy 's recall, and I i»n i ■ that olement could be eliminat«4i it was done, and it ..tntt meats of that kind went abroiui through him, they would not have been authorized by the Council. Db. Sutherland — I think you will romomber that Dr. Macdonald, in his letter referring to this, Hays thiit " cer- tainly Dr. Eby was not responsible for this, but the move- ment was." Mr. Cabsidt — Yes, the movement. That is quite a dif- ferent thing ; as long a» you exonerate Dr. Eby, let the movement take all the blame it may. My feeling is that the Board took charge of the movement, atid that so far as it is a matter of the movement Dr. Eby ought to hie relie\ed of the responsibility, except where lie is personally responsible. Then "The vast exf)enditure," "The in- flated reports." I may say herp, for the satisfaction of the Board, we did not justify [>r. Eby wherein ho made inflated reports. There are occasions where, in Council, we hove criticize it in the Council OS thoroughly as you would here, as for as our abil- ity went. "The neccHsity which it created for working the Council into line," and so on. That of course is a state- ment which is ifry ambiguous. Who wr.-ked the Council into it) Did Dr Eby work iti Dr. SutheklaM)— Rea>ee how entirely different a thing is made to appear just by o change of lani;u.igp in presenting it. My point is this, that, in order for Dr. Eby's plans to be carried out he must get a Council in harmony with Lii views, and such a Council he Irnd when the Self-support elei.nent came into it. Tdb Chairman— You say, if you had seen the tenden- cies ft.s plainly as you do now, you never would hoNe recom- mended one of them 1 Mr. Cassidv -Nt) ; I Ijelieve if we sow the best of men on the field, if we were where we began, wo would not recommend one of them. We would say it is wiser to let the Board select its men at home, and send them out. T(i . Chaikmas— Then you coincide in the view that it was an unwise action ) Mb. Cassidv— Oh, I do not say that it wos nece-isarily •O. It is so partly because the brethren here have failed to undorstand the men ouf, there. I do not mean to say that because I a'<■ fi 'i-.v- ■ ■ i !■ .;:t«d. undei stood. Ther« is mora to leixl to mirandentuuling, and less light to help. Therefore, in the future, if T had a share in tlie workingH of the Coi'.nut', I would reoommend no man on the fit Id, no matter who he might tie. I would let him lie aii|ioinled from here, so that there would 'oo no questiim almut it. Then, the next paragraph is, " By antagonizing the Woman's Counoil and its work," and so on. (Pago ♦19 of Review.) Here I only wish to say that, knowing m they did the weakness of Dr. Eby's work, or the unwisdom of his plans, I could never understand why they went in there at that particular time. To me it was a matter of regret. I would fur rather they hod kindly refused to go in. It would have been better to- lay -f they h. -I. I was sorry that they should go in, and then withdraw. To my uiind it was plain enough at the time thev went in. I thought theni was enough in the way on one side or the other to prevent successful work on that line, snd > was for that reason that some of v's 'bought it "•! . to ■■■ote for the motion asking for •!;" .tppoin! r-. * Ml ■■ Johnston. She was v grent ftiend of Dr. I ' I. he hiui hii pet s'^heue she was a friend of and we thought, rather than have any disturb- iiy kind let him try his own scheme, There is a kb<<- person ; we all know her, and hence wn an innovation, as Dr. Macdonald says, but I would ri-u.^r 'lave hod almost anything than friction. Then, as to the letU^i-s from missionaries. You will notice thnt it is at this point I am, for the first time, included or man." I Vielieve that is true. I cannot but think that the Goner.il Seci'etary did reluctantly produce this statement, and yet I cannot but rejoice to-day that lie has proiluced it. T would rather have this statement a greot deal than have the insinuations without the state- ment, -a great deal r.ither. The insinuations that were made, niaile this st-att^ment necessary, and now we have it. There can lie no nioif insinuations. There is no other reserve to Ihi brought forward, I hope. If there is, I hope it will he. brought forward before we conclude, and that we will liegin with a clear sheet. Mil. CHI8II0L.H— Would Mr. Cossidy allow me to make just this remark : In spooking of any other reserve to Iw brought forward, is that in reference to other testimony <'<■ statements from the Executive f Because the crucial point, in my way of thinking, &o far as Mr. Cossidy and the Exec utive is concerned, are the facts upon which they base their rosolutie^i of his recall ; i;nd so far as 1 am concerned, oh a meinlier of the Board, I would like to know what they are, or whether they are all contained in this Review of Dr. Sutherland's, or not. Mb. C.tssinv — I am not raising that point. I do nut wish to go into that at all, or touch it It is not my sphere to do so. All I mean to say is this, that at the Gimersl Conference, and at the Hamilton Conference, statcmeutd were mode which startled many people. Why, they said. ■•\f^."-'^'-'''i^i 'V "•!,"'*«?' i^»*='|"'^J»' — •m^'^f^Tfjl PROCEEDINGS RJS JAPAN AFFAIRS. W things m\ut lie in a terrible shape i! thniw affairH are such th«* they oannot bo invHstigatwl and would not sUnd the light; »jid if the HecrMlary in rtjilly (ifiiiid that a day would orme when he would liavo to malm a NUtainent, and if he did so that those who cmnpoUod him to mnko it would have to !» ro^ponsiblo. Tliii kind of Htatement, [ claim, oould not be left in tlio miuila of the Mfith(xliHt publii' without Homet' Ing to explain it, i.nd now I am gl' d this has come ; tha . m Moorntary has said pvery tfiing hr means to say. I do moan to say th'it ho ! is not any m e to substantiate f ho has "lid hen-, lie may ha e over so much oorreHp<»; ncc and tnpr sr. much rrc on the other side. Tie.d raa be enough t.) muki' a whc.lti liook like this ; but let it be rn nl)cred then' mi^,.l lie Ixniks made in differ- ent direction the R,.' metliods were taken. 1 do not doubt that a' All 1 ly in, that now we have it with out reserve, ,.d let it go for wliat it is worth. I only wish f!-A further that he couM noi ivo l)een more anxious that everything '.imld ' .^i.i.cably decided, without being dragged out before the public, tlria we were. I am sure both the Indies and my, elf felt the same way, and hence we felt that if we c mid have Ijeen somewhat taken into confidence, and n committee called at the General Conferwttoe, a small judicial committee, and ifapan affairs had been thoroUohly reviewed, then, even though we had not all the light that wo iiave now, I ttiink we would have enough to have put everything straight, and to have come to conclusions then thai would have prevented a good deal that we have suffered Hince. I cannot help thinking tha*;. We were as anxious for this as anyone could he.; but such was not the course taken, "The returned missionaries have diligently kept up the agitation, being deterraine true. Mb. Ourn(^ — I would like to ask Ur. Briggs if he knows who paid for those papers f Dr. Bbmos — No ; but they got tlu^ money oa.sl) down. Mr. OuRNEy — You do not kr.ow who gave the order f Dr. BRlor.a — No. I would liice to ask Mr. Cassidy if he knows who gave the order, an( who paid tho money I Mb. Cassidv — I do not know nf. that is a fair <|uestion, as you have another to deal with. I do not say that I had no hand in it. Dr. Brigos— I do not tliink it would l>e abu.sing the confidence of anyone to imjiart that information to such a committee as this. I think 1 coi Id get the names of the parties giving the order. Theref< re, Mr. Chairman, there ought to be no re-iorve, no uttcrar ce of Mr. Cassidy of any reserved meaning. If he knows who gave the order and who paid the cash, I think in th'a Board meeting ho ought to state it. Db. SDTHKRtAND— I wish this point could be made clear. It is a point that is cau.sing gmat pain to my own mind, more than I could put into words. This agitation was as notorious for the last twelve months through this country as it is that this church faces on St. Catherine Street ; nolMjdy is ignorant of that, that I know of ; and yet here it is stated, fairly i.nd stjuaroly, that there was no such agitation by the missionaries. Now, if they can give us any information as to who did carry on tho agitation, it ..■ould roliovo my mind, for one, immensely. Mr. CvsaiDV I think my position is clear to everyljody. What I hiwl to say I wrote, and wrote over my own signa- ture. I look that position. I never gave these things to the pres" I do not say tliat I disapproved of it. I do not say ,it I tried to hinder it. I know who diti it, and know now it was done. Mr. Aikins — And done with your approval 1 Mr. Cassidy If Dr. Eby were here I think that would be explaineti. The publication of some of those documents w/is dime with iny approval. Mr. Aikins — Was tho circulation of these papers in the Conferences with your approval 1 Dr. Suthbrland— Do we understand Mr. Cassidy to say he approved of the publication of official documents that were still under consideration, and the publication of which had not been authorized by the Executive or the Board? Mr. Cassidy— Well, the initial responsibili' ». '^may as well tell you more frankly, was with th. mei. mb- .solveu. They were sent for the purpose. Dr. Si thbrland — Sent from Japan, ask .'ler you approved of that being done and ^ .lOi e>' j;' xhe papers t Mh. Cassidv — I think it was right to gi-^ 'te people light upon the question. I thought it was \ ri; !>t way to give tho public a clear understand'n. of what was done. Reasons were asked everywhere. V hai"" these men done tliisi I could not explain it. . J not have ex- plained it as well, if I tried, as they did themselves. They sent their own explanation, and sent it with permission to publish. Mr. Aikins — Who are they 1 Mr. Cassidy — The six missionaries. Mr. Aikins — It was under their instruction these papers were published 1 Mr. Cassidv— They were sent out with that in view, to let the Methodist public know their action. The other side hud gone forth to the world. It had gone out through- out the world, and in the papers in .Japan it was published, the things that had given them grievance. That is how they look at it. " These things have come to us, and have given us grievance, and we want to put ourselves right l)efore tlie public who have read these things." Mil. AiKiNS — Is that the reason for it, Mr. Cassidy t Did you have anything to do with carrying out the in- structions of those six missionaries in the publication t Mr. Cassidy- — Well, I was not responsible for it; yet I will not say I had nothing to do with it. Mk. Aikins — Under whose instructions was that last letter of those six missionaries published) The one dated the 11th of September. This printed letter that is before us? Mr. Cassidy — Oh, I do not know ; I never sow that un- til it was here. I never knew it was to be printed, or knew anything aljout it until in this room. I believe it was printed in this country. Mr. Maclaben — Do you know who mailed the copies that were sent by mail t Mr. Cassidy — No. Dr. Sutherland — The statement that we had at the time was that the missionaries had sent on certain documents to the brethren in this country — we understood Dr. Eby and Mr. Cassidy — with a request that if certain things were not done by the Executive Cot\}mittee the documents should then be published. I think I am stating that accurately. M». Cassidy — Did that apply to the request for recall with this explanation ? Dr. Sutherland — The explanation of the request for recall, and tho reply of the Executive Committea Mr. Cassidy — I would not be sure whether that state- 0IIIIR4L B0A12> OF MISUONR IM. ■« vffMi to UmI or to mmMmt doesMMt, bat yoa Uv* iqjr k»owl«de« rrd among the mem- ber* of your own (.V>uf«renoe, Dr. Kyokman. Dr. T. (). WiLi,iAMH'-I never Haw one of them. Dr. RroKMAN- I aiked what tha document ii that i« now in queation. Mr. Ciiihuiolii I liad knowledge of them, and took one of them out of thp i«>At<, oArrii-d it out doors, handed it to Dr. Urigga, and luketi him what Stnr thii waa, and he ■aid, " It i» tlie Toronto Star." Tliere were lome five hundred copies tcatterod over the loati of the Montreal Conference. Mr. KrrTt.iWKi.L — Waa it the newspaper, or merely a sheet reprinted. Mr. Ciiisiiolm- It was the Star. Mk. Uktts- -Was it publishnd before or aft4ir the decision of the Executive that you should not go back to Japan 1 Mr. Cassidt -Months afterwards. Mr. Ciiisiiolm- I know perfectly well where Dr. Kyok- man and Dr. W'illianiii were when those sheets were scat- tered. It waa the time you had that long meeting of the Stationing (v'orouiittee. Dn. T. (}. WiLLlAMH- 1 may have seen the papers lying around at the Confrrencn, but I never knew until this moment that there was such a document in our Confirence. .Mil KRTTLRwaLL I do not think there was any such in the Vlnmilton Conference, Mil. l>oNLY Yes. They were there in abundance. Dr. IlKKKiH And they were in 8trathroy, loo. TuK Chairman The lending memlM>ri knew nothing of it. Mk Lamdly i '.' !>tild like to aak if this matter pub- lished in the ,Slar, md circulated by these six men, and with tho tncit appnivnl of Mr. Caasidy, is the s«mo matter that was publiRlicd in the Guardian right along? Mr. CAsaiur - \'e». Db. T. (J. Williams -What was the difference in time? Mr. Camidy -I l)«4i»ivi> the (iuarduin would have published it at the time if the editor had anticipated it «'Ould have gone imywhere else. None of us had any desire to go into the atrulnr prrsR. It was just at the time of the change of the «>r course to tnkp. Mr. HoMTis -Was all the mntu-r published in the Ouardian that was in the Star 1 Mr. Maclarrn- 1 think the heading was not. Mb. Ca»«idy--I think the editor eliminated some por- tions. Dr. ScTiiBBLANn If 1 had given any of these docu- ments to the public press I would have l)een regarded guilty of B gross brencli of trust, nod would have lieen liable to severe censure by the Board or Executive , and it is worth considering whether, in a casfi of that kind, individual missionaries are at liberty to do what the Sccre- (MJ of the Society would not be allowed to do. Til OitaiWiAV— Wall, U U tiM qum»km at Mitotto|t the oountry. That taama to hava Man doa* tfirmigh the nawapapen to tha utmoat poaaibUity. Mk. Oaaaior — At any rata, to-day, I think, wa haro got to tha bottom of avarything. Than, aa ragnrda tba " frio tion batwaen tha ten Oounoils," and soon. (Raada son tenoa from p. 70.) I nead not rafer to that again. " Dr. Maodonald calls this a oruaitda, and it looks as if tha word wera not too strong." I think that waa a vary unfortunate statement for Dr. Maodonald to make. I might say, be- fore passing away from that other point, that it would have been far more in keeping with my faalinga if a neat little pamphlet had Iwen prepared and oarafully addreased to every member of tha Conferenoe and not allow it to go to the public at all ; but there wera ciroumatanoaa which did not seem to make that poasible, and it went aa it did Now, as to the " Answers to Questions," which are at the end of tha Review : " Do you ask why is Dr. Maodonalil retained in Japan an representative of the Board againut the wishaa of the missionariea t I answer, becausa he waH never more needed there than now," and so on. (Quotes {Mtrt of paragraph, p. 70 of Review.) 1 think that is a statement that is entirely one-sided, to say that it is the fidelity of Dr. Macdonald that haa caused tha antagonism of the other member* of the Council. " Do you still ask, is not Dr. Maodonald merely a practising physician," and so on. (Quotes rest of paragraph.) Of ooursa I do not nead to say anything about that, but there are some points there that I do not think are just aa I would put them. I do not mean to take anything away from Dr. Maodonald's standing or work. He certainly ia a great worker, a tremendous worker, but to say that he is doing mora mis sionary work, if you mean by that the aprrading und preaching of the Gospel, I think it ia putting soma of the other men in a strange position, who give their whole time to that. Then, aa to the further paragraph, " Finally, do you ask, who are chiefly responsible for the friction and strife in Japan 1 " (Quotes from paragraph on p. 70 of Iteview.) This is very much like the assumption with which the documents began. It is carried all through. It finally winds up with an assumption which has never lieen proved. If the Board is not satisfied that this is not correct, of course there is no use of my trying to persuadt- the members now, but I think it is a very great injustice to me to put it in that shape. " It is notorious that at the present time the Church is agitated a* it has never been for years," and so on. (Quotes from same paragraph, i Well, 1 do not think I wilt say any more about this, I feol as though this document, from beginning to end, is like one of the orations of that great speaker who used to always l>egin and end caret ifiitio tt fitte* ; Eby an>l Cassidy must be mode responsible for this whole thin^', whatever else is done. I am sorry that there is so much of this in it. Otherwise, it haa brought a great deal t>> the surface that has been cleared up, and that Imx been seen in a different light, perbap*, than it wn.s before, and therefore has done a great deal of good I think the Secretary has put a great amount of hard laUir on it, and that we ara indebted to him for it — greatly indebted. I hope that what we have passed through will lead us to s better understanding. I am sure that if agitation has taken place it waa with a view to light. I cannot, for one, have the publio told that my affairs will not stand investigation, without either trying to have them investigated, or in some way or another try- ing to find light. All we wanted from the beginning was light and clear understanding. I do not think it was at nil proven that we have tried to overthrow the Secretary, to overthrow Dr. Macdonald, or overthrow anybody else. It was a matter of sincere pain to me when I felt the Secre tary taking things in that way, a sincere pain indeed, ami I would much rather, I can assure you, have from the Im> ginning been his closest supporter, his warmest friend. than to have bern put in any other poaition. I am noi. in any other poaition to-day through choice, nor have I been from the beginning. If agiUtion haa taken place, I roust admit a fair share of responsibility in it, but I do say this, that I have always kept the intereata of the * Iset* litfiaBinf sntf tad." ntOCEBDINOS RE JAPAN AITAIBS. 16» ... - . ' •»•*• k«P» illMw wh«r«T«r ilUnea wmM 4ft I Imv* >om on with thu work, tried to b« (kitkfnl to it, Mid triad to crMie roiMioiiKry «ritliu»iMm I iIbmnIx b«li«r« thftt both hnre and in JkiMQ wa «ot » RTMt out-pouring of the Holv Spirit, and a Rriwt •mount mor* ol niiulonkry (««), through our action Ptrlwpt it doM not bocoma nm to tay thi«, l.ut I ciiiinot holp ipMking it. Il is the fmtliiig of my heart, and I only hoM tlial all will end well. ' Mil. OUMBY -I would like to n»V A i|ueition. Mr. (Ja» Midy Mid that at the (lt»neral C'oiifi'rf nee ho did no canvaa- Ring for votea againat tlie Hi-crotary. That in within your knowltdgat Mr. (JAiaiDT I wiah to aay thin. All I heard wiu (ueraly a jokp. Aa the vot«i wrwi about to be Uken, aonie- oiM lookad baok and aaiil, " Muy, let ua give Willianu ft vote, juat to loare Dr. Wuthei land n hit." Dr. Bothrrlamu— Oil, but be didn't aoHro worth n cent. Mr. CAiaiDT— That ia all I ever heiird. I iievor heard another word. Mr. AiKiNS~Yoa were not reaponaible for thati Mr. Oahaidt— No. Mr. Olrnrv—You were quite intinmtn with Dr Kby daring the continuanoK of timt ('niifnrpncs 1 Mr. Oa»»ii)Y— I aaw him frfijuontly. We were not atopping togrther. Ho Htopfwd ut one end of the oity, and I atopped at thu other. Mr. OuiiNav l)o you not know that Dr. liby, through out thftt Conforenoe, deoUri'd tImt until you could Imve h new Secretary, and, in fact, a now uttitudi- of llip people entirely, that the miaiioni coi :J not udviinin in Japan or anywhere elao ; that we lacked l\\,\ niiaaionaiy spirit t Mr. Oa8«ii>v— Well, I do not know but ho did. Mr. Gubn'ky You did not bear liim say tliat I Mr. Cahmiov I think I did ; 1 think I have beard that a«id. Mr. Bbtth •■ Mr. Ooaaidy, 1 auppoae, waa not reaponaible for that t Mr. Cahsidv No. Mr. GoiiNKV The point I make in tbiK, that there are certain thinga auid in thia report regardinx aKitation. Now it ia the enaiett thing in the world for anybody to f;;et up and aay that tliei'o wan no agitation ; but the statcnipnt haa come out to-diiy that tliort* wa.« agitation in the news- papeni. F did not know atiytbing aliout tbo newspaper buainena l>efore, and until today I never tbouglit of the aignitioance of tlie atutenienta of Dr. E\ty ; I never saw their relevancy ; I never spoke of it to any man until to-day at the lunoh-tfble. Now, Mr. t'assidy knew of that. The repeating of these thinga by misaionaries throughout that Conference, aa was dona frL><]uently, muat have bad some efleot aa an element of friction. Dr. Hyokman I was Just going to aay, the last wonia of Brother Qurnoy atruck nin--"if thia thing was repeated by raiitionaries." We have one missionary before us wIk) aaya that up to the very moment this election was Ijeiiig made he heard no electioneering and knew nothing about it. Now, with regard to this matter I think there are some thinga feared and some imaginations about thinga that are not justiHed by fact. Hrotber Ciissidy and I are vory familiar friends ; acquaintances at all events; we have baon ainoe he waa a little boy, and t think that if Krotber Cassidy had lieen electioneering for a new Secretary of Miasi(ma I would have known aonietbing about it. We were together in the Missionary Committee, and \ sympa- thized with Mr. CoHsidy on the Missionary Committee and in the Conferencipan adair and ask me some ((uestion, probably as a stepping- stone to get something out of Brother Caaaidy, and then ask him a i|uestion. During all that intimate intercourse with Brother Caaaidy he never agitated ; in fact, there waa a policy of ailence. 1 have known him to be put in poai- tiona where it waa almoat impoaaible to avoid apeaking ; he did not apeak ; and I have to hear for the flrat time from moml>era of my own congregation or church, or any other perauna with whom I was intimate, that Brother Cassidy Imd been using his influence or expressing himself by word or by act unfavorably to the Missionary Secretary, to the Missionary authorities, the Kxeoutive, or anyliody else con- cerned with the missionary work. Now, I liear that teati- mony out of my own mouth. So far aa that goea, I can speak very strongly with regard to Brother Casaidy'a demeanor. Of course, what happened in other plaoea and what other persons may kno,v, I cannot tell. Dii. St!TiiKiii.AND — As to Mr. (.'asaidy or anylxidy else favoring tlie election of another Secretary that was per- fectly within their right, if they choae to do it, and not the slightest feeling would I have against them on that account. The matter was referred to in the document, not for the reason that I have any peraonal feeling towarda tliem for having done that, but in order to show that there a certain plan was attempted to be carried out, the auccess of which was necessary in oi'il(>r that the Mission Council in Japan might carry out its policy instead of the policy of the Boaril, .\t tlie Tendon Conference this very year Mr. CasHiily spoke to me, and when this matter at the (leneral ('Onference was referred to, be immi'diatoly said, as he haa siiid here '.o-day : " I did not do anything of tlie kind ; did not use any inlluence or say anything to influence a vote in reganl to it." I replied ; "Then, Mr. Cassidy, all 1 can say is that there are a good many of your brethren are doing you a grave injustifre, l)ecausn I am keeping well within the mark when I say that half a dozen diflTerentmen in the (leneral Conference came to me saying, 'Those Japan missionaries are doing their utmost to get you out.' " If they told me what was not true, I am not to blame for that. If only one had intimated a thing of the kind, I would have paid no attention to it whatever ; but when one ofter another came saying, and saying apparently with a good deal of exoitement, " Those Japan missionaries are doing their utmost to get you out," I could not help but feel that the thing was ao. At the London Conference there were a large number of men whoae minds were prejudiced against the Kxecutive and the Secretary, and in every instance whore the thing was enquired into — and some of them volunteered the information without my asking for it— it was all traced to the same source ; that is, it was either Dr. Eby or Mr. Cassidy who had said the things which caused the prejudice. When Mr. Caaaidy told mo that he hod not lieon saying anything to these men, or through the Conference, I had to reply, "Why, since I have l)een liero I suppose a dozen men have told me you have lieen saying these thinga, and that they got them from ynii." Was it any wonder that I concluded it waa so, or lliat I put it into my statement hero 1 Mk. KKTTi.r.wKLi. — I would juat like to say that I met Mr. Cassidy once or twice during those months, and I have to bear out Dr. Hyck man's testimony. I could not but admire liis reticence, and the kind and judicious way in which he spoke of Dr. Sutherland, and everyone connected with the \IiBaion. I am loath to Iwlieve that he agitated in any direction. Dr. Tovbll— I would like to ask Mr. Oassidy a question. yv"^l'. ; i -'^': "ij' w r*^?'*-" TTjpr- '•■f . -»-*"«f*<.'t|y 110 GENERAL B041U) OF MISSIONS. 18M. Did I awkntand jre« to mjt UwI, with voar prMMt ■ndanUnding of amtirt, had )ou th« work to Ho ovar M»in, jwt would not rncommKiiJ the bri-tlirKii now on the finiil to tbfl 0«n«r*l Hoard 1 Did you ninan l>y that that the hi« tory of thmut bratharn in oonnwlion with tiia work thtrii Imw not juttiliad your action In r«r«imni(inding Ihfin t MR. ('lAiwiDr— I did not innan that at all. I ni«»ant that on ganaral prinoiplaa I would rpconiniKnd no nmn who ii in the foraiiin flnid, who ia away (roui homo. I think that the raoord of th«««i individual man ii all tlutt could Iw •ipaotod or daairmi ; that tho nifn tlitmaalvpa, aa Dr. Coohran ainady haa laid, ani excoilant ni«n. I would Ix) rary »>rry if anyone took that view that you havf nmn- tionad. I am glad you havn aaknl thr quratinn, lest thnm ■hould be a iniiUke alraut it, Imcaiiie the mon lh< niaplvio are excellent men ; but, on general priiiviplea, I think we are better underatn lM>gan to be introduced, and I alwaya folt aa tliough I waa like a real child, while they were aonie mrt of foiter ohiUlren, •nd I felt aa though it wai somewhat of an advantaK<- The OlIAiaHAlc— Therefore, you aay it waa a niiatake to take thoae men I Mk. Camiot— a miitake in that policy ; not a miaUke aa to the men. Thk CBAmHAK— Then the queation would come, had we been lelecting men would we have taknn thoae men t Mr, Oashidv — That is another question. In legard to what Dr. Sutherland boa said, I do not wish you to under- atand that I have said nothuiK that would lead to dissatis- faction with the Secretary. You know I have been dis sati«6ed. All I say i^ 1 tried to keep silence. I tried to take a diarrset and honest course. I tried to do KO''>d for the Church, and wherever I have haasis of their resolu- tion of your recall t Mr. Camidy — I can only refer you to the official state- 'nont. The resolution as lent me bore no explanation, but the official statement which followed afterwards gave me this explanation : "A Joint Committee, reprnitenting the Executives of the General Missionary Society and the Woman's Missionary Society, met in Toronto, and after careful consideration unanimously decided that in order to reatore harmony some changes must be made in the per- •onnel of the two missions " Mr. Chisiiolm — I find quite a numlter of people, and I myself among them, that are completely in the dark with regard to the action of the Executive in the recall of Brother Casaidy. I should like to ask this question, whether or not we have in this Review, as presented by the Ueneral Secretary, the whole of the facts of the case as the Execu- tive received them t Is there any other documentary evidencol Any other reasons why Brother Cassidy Hhonld have been recalled from Japan than what is stated in that Review I If there is, I should like the Executive, if it is in order at all, to produce their reason for the recall, if they have any other than what is found in this Review. Db. Suthebland — This document is not a statement by the Executive. It is an historical statement by the Uen- eral Secretary covering, be thinks, everything that has entered into this Japan difficulty, at all eventa from the jear IBM. You will remember in one part of it, when i«f«rrtn|| to the action of oar Board and KiMativa, U it stated that a report was presented by a eomndtlea of the Itoard on this matter of friction between the niissionarint They state there, in general terms, tha source of their in formation, namely, certain curres|>ondence. I cannot from memory, at the monianl, say whether all that corruapoml ance is printed here. I waa ooncerned mora with the action of the Hoard and the reason which it givaa in its Minutes for that action, and therefore I did not wait to go back and hunt up aad see whether 1 had the same letters that were l>efore that coniniitteeof the Hoard. 1 preaume, however, that the letters are among the documents here, .ind the gist of the same is given in this paper, Whil" I am upon that point, the part tli..t Mr. Chisholm has just quoted, " Kinally, do you aak, who are chiefly responsible for the friction and strife in Japan t " this, aa you will see when you read it, is a conclusion that I ha> e reached after going over all the docunienta and evidence so faraa we had it, and that this is a statement « hich, from lM>ginning to end, was prepar« how the thing would come out when all the eviileni-e waa in and digested. I was simply dealing with a matter of history, as dispassionately aa I would read any chapter o* li:;itory in the world; and it wat after I had gone through the whole thing, step by step, that I forinulitted this as the conclusion that I had come to in my own mind as the result of this re-examination of the whole affair. That is how I rame to this conclusion, and you see it is statoil aa my own conclusion, Mh. ('iiisiioi.m -I can understand the responsibility assumed by the Oeneral Secretary in the pre|>aratiou of this document ; but seeing that we have not, according '.o his own statement, all the f.icts in the case — Dh SiTTiiKRLAiin —Excuse me, I did not say that. Mr. Chisiiolm- I thought you said you simply came to a conclusion from the corres^iondnnce. r>H. Hi tiirhland— No, sir. I say everything upon which I basee(l on page 47, about the travelling oxpensea. I would like to ask .Mr. Cassidy if we are to understand from him that had his travelling e:(penses been favorably con sidered by the ■'secretary, he wi^uKI not hav« made the speech which so much surprisif'. Dr. Macdonald ; that in fact he mode it aa a kind of retaliation or leverage to get hold of those expenses. Mr. CAg»ii>v — I thought T had explained that. This is what T said to Dr. Macdonald- -fortunately I happened to put it into writing nearly at the same time. Here is what Dr. Macdonald misunderstood. Three things were said in the conversation : that in regard to the exp<'iis«s, and that in regard to the consideration of the committee, and in regard to the speech ; but he is putting the wrong points together as cause and effect. Here is what I said, and it refers to a few small points raised in tho Conference : " I can assure you that had the Jupan matters received full consideration in the Committee on Missions, no such mat ters would have been brought up." That is what I said to Dr. Macdonald. In tho same conversation I said I had not yet lieeii paid my expenses. Mit. Lamhi^v — T wish to iiear testimony to this fact in the line of Dr. Ilycknian : I have l>een at missionary meet ings with Brother Cassidy, ns chairman of the meeting, anil on the platform, and taken part in speaking with him, and though he was expressly re(ju)>sted to make public explana tion of the trouble in Japan, he declined to do to, and wus exceedingly reticent upon that matter and did not use one word or one expression of any kind to throw blame of any sort upon the Executive or upon the administration. D& Suthrrland — As Dr, Macdonald it not present, and of ooune oannol be heard in raferenoe to thia littlo TT'^ PR001ID1M08 Jl^ JAPAN Af FAIBA ITI ■Mttor, I wUh to My th»t I hkv* not th* Im»I doubt thai Mr. Cawidv mUI to Dr. Mnoloimlii wimt h«i IimJu^I ilatid ho wid. From Dr. MaoildiiKld'n implioit ■Utoiniiita, which not only camn In » Uttir, dut ('•ma ti> nw from liii li|i« whan tha m»lUir wm ttlP w«rin In hii inainnry wliitlier tho Mm* or tha nait day I do nnt kniiw— I oaiiiint nmiat the ooni'luilon tlmt Mr. Ciutiily alio lald what Dr Mae- donald attributaa to him. Mr. Camidy Oh, no ; rxuuan lur D». HuTiiaHLANii Tli«m w« luw" thn i>xplioit iitat«m<*nta of two man on oppo«il« mtloi, aiuI I vpniurn to iny thii, that I oannot ooticwive how it iimn could iiiiiiiindxritiknil or miihcar ona of thoM ttataiiitiit* lo a* to livliaw it to b« tha other. Mr, Uamidt— (.'ould thi> Seori'tary iimliy tho Board,) I move that we ooiiiidnr ihii drnft rnport clnuio by clause. (Ordert-d.) The Committee of thn Wholn then prooeey chkiiin. In reference to thn .'Ird claiiHn, lt*v. Itn. IIvckman iin'd : I.' Dr. MaodoiinId witk hern I could iimko much mom readily than I do now thn onn remark thikt f wmh to muke. Dr. Macdonald ii onn of my old fiicndit. \Vn wnrn uimoci- ated together as fellow worknrn, and ihern it no jierton whom I admiie more in many reapnctx thiin l>r. Mikcdoniild I intend to support tliiR piirt of thn motion, liut in holding the icalei of justicn Inirly and nvniily, I think this oU|;hl to be said : In this ooiifesundly uhln ktulnmnnt of thn .Seorntikry, it is said at tho lH');iniiin^' I cannot refer to thn pr«>ciao place or language -tlmt thn diflicnltiis in JH|iiin have been fomented and |ierpntuatey ^onaipin^' tendencies on thn part of certain persons not named. I think it Ih hut right to say in this lioard tlmt from the tnittimony givnn last night it apiwareil. again and nguin, whi'ii pernons wern asked, how did you get your information I the aimwer was from Dr. Maidonald. That is to say, |)r. Macdonald reportHfd things to thn ladicH, carried them from his own brethren to thn ladies. Tliey givn Dr. Macdonald as their authority ; that is in conversation. Dr. Hutiikhland — Only in oilicial oorrospondnnce ; in these letters as Chairman of the Council. Dr. RvCKMAN--l do not rememlM-r the words uiied last night. One witness was asked, "Who told you that I" and she said, " Dr. Mucdomdd," and <•" I uii'lei'Ktand it, it was in conversation. As to this m. <• of expenne, it was said that Mr. t'lwsidy said, if the i M'llii.g expenses had been paid he would not hitvn taken i. action hi^ did. There are some who know Iwtter than tlnit We know what Brother Cassidy was aiming at when h 'iroiight for- ward that little inatter of legislation in the (.ennral Con- ference, and that matt.g»rd to his success and wisdom in Japan, excepting at one point. However, I will vote for this resolution. (Tho clause was then unanimously •greed to.) While the seventh elause was under discussion, Mr. Cox said: I have nothing but kinlness In my heart tows'ds theae men, and would \>o very ^Ud if they would remain in the work, if they do so upon the conditions set forth in tiwt report. That report has been very oaretally ooniidered by tha ooinml'.taa, and I do not lika to eonildar theaa man as young men merely. They are comparatively young men, but thny are man of very unnslderalila experience, and they have vary carefully written to this committee two or three letters, any onn of which will justify us In auoepting their resignation. I do not see that we have any other alterna- tive than to accnpt. Wn leave thn door open for them to return. I think we would Iw doing thani an injustioe if wa go any further than is gone in that reftort. I think it ia carefully, considerately and kindly prepared. There is no memher of that subcommittee who has any but the beat feelings toward them. If they wern boys of flfteen or six- teen it wniilil he iliHnrent. Hut some uf them are men of thirty or thirlylivo years. That Inttnr is not like one that has lieen sent ofT without consideration. It has been passnd around and signed individually by those men, and when we consider all that, I do not think the report is any t4io severe. After the Initers they have written to thia lioard, they ought to lie willing and prepared to take a little liack water to come in again. I do not think that wa ought to write to them or communicate with them in such a way as lo make them foel or lielievn that we cannot get along without Miom. Wn have gone a great deal further in that report than my friend Mr. Kobinson or any other business man would go, if onn of their stalT persisted three successive times in urging and ilemanding resignation. It would lie accepted, I think, with not any wore grace or kindness. Dm. Uiiioos— We have said there it an " opportunity," and Brother Lnngfnrd states, not unwisely, that it it not a very warm word, not very much heart in it ; hut if we put this, Ihit wn extend again an opportunity, that givea the warmth that llrothnr Langford wants. It lets them know tlmt thny have had opportunity after opportunity, and here is anothnr. Mr. Laniiford — That warms it up. Dr. Kvckman-'-T move an amendment to tha form of this pariii^raph. I have not thn language before me, but I can iiiiln^atn vnry clearly the amendment that I wish you to ni.iki'. In that item of the report tho committee is made to SI, that they think it is desirable. I would have it said that thn com mi It ee desires, or that thn Board desires. Letut say right out what wn do feel. Wo desire, — that is my per- sonal feeling, and I have no hnsitation whatever in expressing it directly, instead of in a roundabout way. I believe that if these innii do not roenive from us some reason for think- ing that we heartily wish to contiMun them in thn work, they wilt resign. T do not think we should crowd them too far. TiiK Chairman — How would it do to say, "Which op- portunity the Board would be happy to have the brethren at cept "1 I)ii. Uyckman — Very well. In the expression of the Executive, after thn young men had complained that they had not the confidence o' the BoanI, they felt that they had not the confidence cf il e Executive, and therefore resijjned. In that expre'-:lon of the Executive, the Board did evuiything else but say, in any degree, You have our confidence, — the very thing on which they resigned ; but they did say. We think you ought to have confidence in u$. 1 believe that if that first expression of the Kxecutive nad not so carefully avoided saying, .We have confidence in you, we would not have got this letter; and nov, as we have had to do that over again, if wn desire them to remain in the work, let us say so. I do not think we are putting our- selves into tlioir hands, or anything they can use ag;-L\';t us. Mn. Khttlkwell — It strikes me, if my memory W cor- rect, that there is a place just at the close of i'.\- ninth r»8olution where this would come in better than 'r No, 7. (The ninth clause was now read.) Dn, RvcKMAN — There is again the carefn' Mid ^le- liberate avoidance of saying tho very thing ! vant to say soinowliero. I think we should be frank enough our- gelves — I will not say honest enough — that we have enough of the parental spirit towards those men to nay what we mean and feel, and express a desire that wf udmit we have ; that is all T ask for. Mr. Hubstib — I venture to say that, in the preparation of thi* report, there were member* of the committee that i^\ • S-^ in OENSRAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 189S. thought ft very full ftpology ihould be m ule to th'!i BoftrJ, •ad that they the Id retrkot the itatf menta they have made, reflecting upon the administration, before they could at all bo accepted ai our ageriti in Japan. I wat satkfied with the phraseology as used by our Sec vary. The remark has been made by Dr. Ryckman that «* j hiui better he honest. Dii. RvcKM.vN No, I said that was the word I did not want to say. Mh. Hurstm -The remark was that wo had better say what we meant ; that while these men h.ive been exiiressiiig themselves as desirous of being recalled, tha'. it is your belief that they do not want to be recvlltd. Now, if that is the case, thi'se men are not It' nest. Pn. PoiTS— We do not kr.ow that, as a matter of fact. Mr. HitRirris The quest'on is simply this: My own wish is that those men may remain and <'ork in harmony with the administration in Japan ; but at the same time [ tbink we ought to express ourselvus in such tone and terms as t« indicate that we are certainly not SEtise d with their overtures to us, and tlinir replies to our o ertures. Mr. OuKxiiV I think we should state in this document that we entertain contidence in relation to vhe quality of these men as men %ih\ missionaries, without, on the other side, saying anything that would indicate that wr are weak in our estimate of their action in relation to this Board. Now, if you can accomplish that, I think you will acconi- |li«b nil that Dr. Hyckmnn a.'d the others want, and I thini, that should g». in, l>ccnuse u •'as l)e«>n f'xprcsscd over and over again tbnt the Boanl lias confidence in them as missionaries ; but i do not want anything to go in there that will indicate a lack of ap{>reciation on our ])art of the business jiart of tbiij thing. Dr. !SuTliKRl,ANi> 1 will oall attention to this : It seems that some of die Board regret very much that the Kxecu- tive did not say .just in so many words, " We have conti- dence in you." I have l>een refreshing my memory Iiy looking over the ii'tterof the Kxecutive. From beginning to end that letter is a plain declaration that tht'y had con- tidence in those missionaries, for after going over ail the p*)ints of the oas^ they expres!! the confident hope that their "loyal iiiindf and heartH will be inlluonced by these considriatiiins," ami that they will continue with their work. Krom lirst to lost it seems to me this letter fairly meets their complaint, that they thought they had not the contidence of tl.d Churi-h. The Kxecutive "replies to that hy expressing throughout the desire ihst they will coi. tinue in tht-ir work, that they will accept the statements that we have made a.s eatisfaetory. In reply to that they simply tell us, in eU'wt, " It if. alt very nice what you say, but we do nut U'lieve you," and even putting it stronger than that, I think, in some particular instance*. Now 1 •ay, by all means let there l»o abundant opportunity for these men to reconsider their action niul Mot leave the Mission, hut stay there as inissionaries of clie .Methodist Church in .lapan, .Still I lyinnot but feel that anything that would wraken the clause of the n.'i)ort that isi now More us would U- a serious mistake. The remark that I r.inde the ntliei day was challenged, I l)eiieve, oh l>eing doubtful, that two I'f o..r missionaries had applied for reception into another Mission. That statement wa.* made on the authority of one of the (letural Secretaries of the MelhiKlisf Kpiscopal Church, who had it directly f.-om their hJKhop who Iiad l)een in Japan ; and since that I i»ni inforiDfd dy one wno knows, that 'le has authority frimi a){eiit)i of some of the churches there, that negotiations •re si.ill in progress, or were within the last month or tw). I do not nay with lefemnc to the two already referrt>d to, I am not saying this i>,t ail to the e e'xpecU!K. Heabtz — There is another view, I have been trying to place myself in the position of one of these brethren. I have just been imagining myself reading the findings of this Board, and then asking myself the question. What position would T Im- in if I decire to go back I Would I be justified in assuming that the members of this Board desire me to go back 1 i think that the intimation is a very cold and formal one, and I think we can afford to put a little more heart and a little more of the Gospel into it, (The clause, as amended, was now adopted.) (The remaining clauses were then r.dopted.) (The whole report, as amended, was adopted.) Dk. SuTlii:iiL.\N[> moved that the Committee of the Whole rise so that the Board may go into session and deal with the report just presented. (Committee rose and reported, and the Board resumed.) Mr. Cox ! move that the report be received and adopted. That it be taken as read. Tug Cii.MRUAN— The report is supposed to be on the table. It is moved that it be received and adopted. Mu. .AiKixH I seonarwn dated December ttth, WH, .March L'Hth, IW*."-, Soptembur llth, IKJtfi, and of the General Socrotary, dated February Ist, IMOo, and May 17th, l.S'.Ti, enclusmg the latter of the Etecutive l.^ominittee of the Hsiiio date, and that letter ; also the letters Of the Rev. Dr, >!iu;donald, dated Duceiiilier l!8th, 1894, and .lanuary 3rd, 189;"), ruHigniui; as a member of the .lapan Mission ; also the statemont.s of Rev. Di-s. 1,'ochran and Eby, Kov, F, .■V. Cassidy, Mm. Jjirr , Mi Jiea N. (1. Hart, I. M. Hargravo, K. K. Mor- gan, and il. S. Hlarkmoro. 2. ('onc«ruiiig the action of the Kx«cuti\e as to the said miNsinuarluN, and the letter written to them '^y the Executive dated May 17th, IWt.'i, those were proper, and are approved by the Hoard. :i. The K')ard desires to expmss its appreciation of the courHe |)ui-siied and the work done by trie Rev. Dr. Mac- douald in hiH cnpaoity as r«|>reHentative of the Board, am! as medical iniisloiiary, and sooh no reason why the confidano hitherto NO fully rc|x>Hud in bim should not l>e continued. Should hi'< rtmigniition from the .(apan Misaion be accepted, h,^ loas to the Church a.'< a miaaiunary, and as rv Boards repre sentatita in .lapan, would he aerinuN and muci. to Ira regretted. The Board urgeii hiiu to withdraw such reaignation, 4. Touching the complainta made by the aaid six mission- ariea Kgaiimt ilin (ieneral Secretary, the Board does nut see that either the corresi>oiidenc« or administration o> '*■« General Secretary just;<^<>' ..uch complaints and suoh attitude. PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 178 6. It it quite evident that the c»id migsionaries have been and are diuatiafied, and are out of sympathy with the adminis- tration of the Board, of the Gxeoutive Committee, and of the chief £xeoutive officers of the Misiiionary Society, appointed by the Qeneral Corifnience, and «ro not workintj harmoniously with the repreientative of the Hoard in Japan, viz.. Rev. Dr. Maodonald. V. '.ii order to restore harmony and induce the missionaries to continue without irritation their work, the Executive Com- mittee wrote on May 17th, 1895, the conciliatory letter lioruin before referred to. The reply of the missionaries to that oonimunication suiiports their request to bo recalled, and indicates a spirit that could scarcely bo expcctoil, and loaves no altarm.tive to the Board but to aocodo to their roquesf and recall them. 7. It is possible the missionaries, or some of them, may wish to remain in the Japan work, and the Board uosiros that they should do so, if the Executive Coinmittoe como to the con- clusion that those desiring to remain can, under the circum- stances, do efficient service, ami will work in synipatliy with the iiroperly constituted Huthority, viz., (Jenenil Cimforenco legislation, the Board, tl«' Kxccutivii, the (junural Secreta and the Board's official reproHeritative in Japan. 8. In coming to these conclusions, the Hoard does an entirely independent of any statument.s inaue or uvidonce given by tlie returned misaionaries of the Wnnmn's Missionary Society on the Ja|)an question, because the Hnaril thinks aueh should nut be considered in relation to the rrenll of snid uiiasionaries, us they were not notified that such statuinents would likely be made or evidence given, and have had no opportunity of mak- ing answer thereto, in so far n.s it might in any way reflect '>n them, or any of them, as men or missi(jnaries, and because the Board does not find in such statements or evidence any reason for recalling them. 9. The Board therefore orders that the remicsi; for recall by Rev. Messrs. E. Crummy, J. (i. Dunlop, D. K. Molveiizie, Wm. Elliott, J. H. McArtluuand H. H. Coatss, contained in their letter of December litb, I8',I4, supported further by the letters of March 28th, W.t.'i, and September llth, lb!)o, be acceded to and that the said missionaries be lenalled ; such recall to take effect at the end of the present Conference year. Should, however, the said missionaries, or any of them, wish to remain in the Japan work, the Kxecutivo Committee is authorized in its discretion to allow such to remain. Dit. T. O. W11.M.AM.S — I beg to read the following letter in regard to Tr. Kby's health : " I heard, to day, that there was some t^lk of asking Dr. Kby to umk« his reply this evening, but on seeing him this morning, I gavo it as my opinion that it would W. unwise for him to appear bofore to-n,orrow morning, owing to his nervous state, unless it would cause embarrassment to thi^ ooiuinittto in tiieir work. Trusting that the com^nittee will soe its way clear to post pone Dr. Eby's reply until to-morrow morning, I remain, youro very truly, W (J. Nichols. M.D." Mr. GuiiNKY I beg lea^e to move, seci i.ded by Mr. C-ox, That whereas it is impossilile to pursue the ([uestions involved in the rp<|uest of I'r, Kby for the withdrawal of his resignatiiin, owing to tbe condition of bis health being such that he ciiiinot and should not be required to eontiniie his stalcnipnts, wliicli lie lun on two occasions witliin the past few days been conipellcd, for the reasons slated, to relinquish ; and whereas there is nocjuestion raised by any- one affecting his character either as a men or a ir.iiiister ; and whereas it is due to Jr. i'Miy, in view of all the facts and cir- cumstanrns, that he have employment in the Church ; there- fore resolved. That Dr. Kby be .'iiiployed by this Board from t.he first day of July, 1. ■<'.».">, mil il July 1st, l.H'.Hi, in the intor- (ists of our missionary work, at the same remuneration as is 4'iven to a missionary on furlough, the Kxecutive ('onimit- ttie of the Board to bav( power to designaie, and, if neces- sfl.ry, todiscontinuo the work, as in its judgment shall be to the advantage of our Missionary Society. Dr. P0TT8 -I think the resolution is a very wise one. In any should not get the money for nothing. I hope, therefore, that this motion will prevp Thb Uiiaihma.s- Dr. Eby resigned, and of course he roight be employed. It is very clear that from the Method- ist Church, under the cireumslaneofl, he can obtain his pay. I think there is no doubt about that myself, and it is just M true of any man who is not given an appointment. While that, on the one hand, is true, yet if he is employed it seems to me there should be some authority somewhere to interrupt that employment if this agitation is in any way carried on. Mk. Ourxey — I think I have fully covered that in the resolution. Tuk Chairman — Do you leave it wholly with the Execu- tive, or with some authori..y 1 Mil. OuRNBV — In my business I look upon myself as the Executive. Now, if I have not covered that sufliiciently, if you think that the thing should be subject to the General Superintendent (Interrupted.) TheCiiaiiiman— No ; it is not that. It should be in the Executive Committee. Mu. (iuuNKY — If you fix the word that will cover the right authority, we have it here. (Reads resolution.) TiiR Chairman — So far as it is a money consideration it conies into civil law. This is a corporation voting money. Now it seems to me that this is the corporation that should put in what will protect us. The Executive may employ him, or, if dissatisfied, may discontinue the service. Mk. Ourney — Then I move the reference of this to a special committee, so that they may prepare this thing in accordance with the rules that govern such cases. The Chaiiiman — -I think you could cover it with a few words. Mr. Gurney — I have undertaken to cover it. Giving employment to a man under this resolution, of course guarantees would be required. Now, who is the govern- ing body ? The Chairman — The Executive Committee might be ; but the Board says that he be employed, and authorizes and directs the Executive Committee to employ him. I do not say this in a spirit of unk'ndness, but suppose Dr. Eby, instead of devoting himself thoroughly and quietly to the missionary work, should go througli the country con- tinuing this agitation ! He is employed by authority of the Board, and the Executive Committee could not step in and interrupt that service. Mil. (Jurney — I would make it so that it could. I would give the authority for the payment of the stipend conditionally. 1 would make it so that he could not enter upon this employment unless he did it in the proper spirit and in harmony with the P'xecutive. The Chairman — If you will say that the Executive Commiitee have power to discontinue the service, that will cover the point. Mu. D0NI.Y — Dr. Eby has resigned, and if it is the wish of the Board to give him employment, f think he should be euv)loypd as a missionary on furlough. The Chairman- You can fix that without the word furlough. Mr. (turney — -Would it not be better to refer this to a committee that may put it into shape? (This suggestion was agreed to.) Dn. Sl'TilEUl.ANi) I do not app'-ehend there will be any pr.ictical difiiculty. With the feeling that prevails, we will be able to adjust matters. Dr. BHKRis — We should finish everything connected with the Japan work while all the laymen are present with us. I move that we have an evening session. This was also urged by Mr, Cox and Mr. Aikins. Mr. Maci.ahen — 1 am oldiged to ask permission to leave at half past ten to night. Dii. Sutherland — There was a reference made this afternoon to Dr. Macdonald, as to the point of his giving infor:nation to the ladie.s' Society. The Executive or Hoard of the Woman's Society had preferred a foruu.l request to Dr. Macdonald that he would act as advisor to their ladies in Japan, and as a consequence of that they very often went to him for advice and counsel, and when asking for advice and counsel on various matters, they would naturally often get some information from him on certain points. I express no opinion as to the arrange- ment itself, but simply take it as .1 fact having some bear- ing upon the matter. Mr. Gurney— There have been suggestions made regard- ing Japan which lead me to the conclusion that possibly an opportunity is now oH'ered for a readjustment of matters theie as might not otherwise have happened in ma' y years. 174 QENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 1895. It hM beeu stated again and again by men wlio are familiar with that work that what is wnntud from Europeans is tnan- agement — education ; that the men to preach are the native'). I should like to know what the juilgment of Mr. Cassidy, of Dr. Cochran and others is regarding tliis question. Is this a time when we shoulil make the changes that ar« indicated as necessary to conform the Japanese Cliurch to the conditions that have grown out of tho evangelization and education that has been going on there? J think the laymen who are associated with this committee would like to know whether the Japanese churches are approaching a ■elf-suataining basis, and whether the fact of employing their own preachers is not desirable as an element in reach- ing that result. I do not know enough about it to do any- thing more than make a suggestion. It is possible that this is a time when we have a providential opportunity. Thk Chairman — Does Brotlier Gurney propose a com- mittee ? Mr. Gi;rnbt — I would like to have these men that I have indicated examined upon these points h8 soon as we have got past this present business. Thk Chairman — We can do that in Committee of the Whole. Mr. Maclarkn — There is a motion on that subject ready to be laid before the committee. (Adjournment at 5.20 p.m. until 7.30 p.m.) The Board resumed at 7.30. The Cuaihiiax — The committee on Brother Gurney's resoluticn is prepared to report, and it is in my hands. Here it is. (Reads resolution.) Mr. Gubnkv — I move the adoption of the report of the committee. hiR. HuKSTis — Do you anticip.ite th.it resolution will render unnecessary any further luMring of Dr. Eby I Mr. Gur.vky— That is a matter of judgment. We will have to hear Dr. £by if he presents himself here to be heard. (Report adopted. See resolution as moved l>y Mr. Gurney, page 173, col. I. Mr. M.itXARB.i -If tlure is no other business --the General Secretary is not yet here, and perhaps ^ •■ aic not prepared to tak<) up business left over— I »'ou! i like to five notice of motion. Moved Ijy niy-ielf, seconde, jy Dr. 'otts — "That this BoHrd is of opinion thm the time has come in the history of our Japan Mi&.sion when a greater part of the work should Ije done through native agency, and that in any changes or rearraugiinent which may bo made during the coining yor, thf" Kxeeulive Committee adopt this policy in so fur us it c.»n be done consistently with efficient administration." I may say that this is a matter that has been very strongly impressed npnn my mind during the post year. My attention w.is called to it specially by some remarks that were made in our General Confer- ence by Mr. Sutoli, of Ja[.nn, that made a very deep im- pression upon my mind. At the meeting of the Bi)ard which followed iiiineiliiitely after, I was i. memlier of the Committee oa Japan, with Dr. Evain and Mr. Aikin.s, and when we had Me. .Saioh bufore Ui (lie coinmiltee devoted a considerable time to that matter. Mr. 8atoh iientioned a circumstar.''e which 1 found corroborated by Dr. Oochran, and that is. the respect which the Japanese have for elderly men. Mr. Satoh exprcsst-d himself very strongly that the Japanese were willing to receive direction and instruciions from th'ise that they delieved were iiualilied by years and experience, but that they were not disposed to take much from young foreigners. Tliis led ine to entpiire into the subject, and "Verything that has come to my knowled.;e durini; the year iio-s tended to coiilinn nie very Htroin;ly in that impression. I ascert-iineo that on ac<-oiint of the nature of the Japanei,^ language, very few foreigners «c quire St «h a knowledge of it la enaiileti tlr-m i., use it effectively for flxtenipoianeous public speaking. What I heard otherwise eonliriiis the statement tli.it lias bi'cn mido here, that .Mr. Dunlop is peiliap.s the only one uf our mis sionaries in Japan who can do so ; and what I have heard about .Mr. Dunlop even is quulilied, for whili- they say he is a very correct speaker, yet even hi has not the' Huency that enables him to make his iwirt very strongly in Jap- anese I Jcnow, for instanoe, of my own use of French in this city, using it a* I did for nearly twenty years, how very few English-speaking lawyers can make an effective speech to a French jury. Now if that is the case where peofile K.re born ilnd brought up in the midst of a language that is so much like our own as the French, what enormous difliculties must be in the way of acquiring such a language as the Japanese. Only a tew of the missionaries that are out there now, I believe, are doing practically the work of a native pastor. I have taken figures from the returns of the p ist two ye.irs, and I tind that our foreign missionaries received on an average, taking all things into account, $1,603 per annum. The average cost of keeping an or- dained Japanese minister was 1132, at the then rate of exchange. Besides, our Japanese ordained ministers are, on the average, the seniors of our Canadian men, leaving out Dr. Macdonald. So Uiat when we come to think that for one Canadian luissionary on the Geld we could, so far as money is concerneil, have kept the year before last twelve ordained Japanese ministers, it seems to me almost like a waste of missionary money to keep one man doing a work which, from the nature of things, he cannot do as well as one of those twelve men. Then, take this last year Leave Dr. Macdonald out of the account, because he gets only $C00 and he is not included in any of these calcula- tions. Last year those six brethren cost, on an average, $1,400. The average amount paid tc the native mission- aries was {130. Liwst year, thtm, we could have kept over ten natives for each white missionary. As at present ad- vised, if we can have the Japane'-e do that work, 1 do not feel justitied in keeping a white missionary there doing part of the work -with something added probably in the way of supervision — which an ordained Japanese minister could do at a tenth of the cost. Mk. LanofviRu-— The argument of the dollarand-cent asjwct of it is very clear. But Dr. Macdonald ought to explain to us how wu are going to meet thin point, that there was not a solitary Japanese candidate at the last Conference, ann hundred communicants, while we have about two thiiusand, so tli.%t it is nearly the same. Now, in 'he report of Dr. MacKay's mission in Formosa, he will not take a Canadian or a white man, but has thrown him- self upon the natives. There are only four ordained men ill connection with the Formosa work, and in a 3ketch by Dr. .Milligan, of Toronto, he says : " Our missionary believes in supplying his chapnis wiili native rather than foreign preachers. Two native preachers can bo had for the coat of one foreigner. The native preachers can meet the needs of the (i.'ld hetter than those imported from abroad." Th< differ-iice Iw-tween Japan the most of it- and Formosa is, that itiJapm you have perl, ips a more highly educated eh-.ss to apjMMil to than Dr. MaeKiiy has on the west coast of Fortnosa. N'ow this matter has very strongly impressed itself upon my mind during the year, and 1 feel that with •he chnnjfes that are taking place in Japan, the strong national feeling that has been aroused, especially by the war, within the pust two years, that the Japanese are not going to be belli in leading; strings very much longer. 1 know men here who are in business out there in Japan in connection with eii(,'iMeering, the building of railways and machinery, and all tli.it kind of thing, who are alrfmi" sliap ng their course with the belief that they are not going to control these things in Japan very much longer, anil M- making Rrrangemciits ex|>«cting the withdrawal of thei business inside the next ten years. They say that with the PROCEEDINGS RE JAPAN AFFAIRS. 175 strides that are being taken by the Japanese in tlioae direc- tions, they are not likely to lequiro much more help from the foreigner. As far us 1 hiive hem able to gather from •II Boarces from which I am enquiring, the Japaiie.se are willing to accept direction and oversight from those men that they think are competent and ni ; hut that d-.es not obtain in the Methixlisl Clmivli. We w.uild, I thiok, have a very liberal doctrine in Japan ill the M.-ibodist Church if we did not take good care to have .Methodist theology and the teach- ing done wisely. Have there not been dilliculties in .lapan with the native missionaries as to the Deity of the Lurd Jesus C'hrist and the atoning work of the Saviour? and have wo been entirely free from difficulty in our own Church 1 Have not those who have our missions in charge been obliged to take very great care in guiding some talented and excellent men in regard to their teaching t We shall want theological schools well manned, and we shall want superintendents of districts, foreign missionaries stationed at the strategic points on the field to keep good watch and care over the teaching of the army of native teachers and preachers. The Chairman — We have Dr. Cochran here. Since the subject has lieen opened up, it may be well to hear what Dr. Cochran has to say, in a few words. Dr. Cochran — It will not be necessary for me to detain you long. I am very glad indeed to hear the remarks that have been made. They indicate to me that you have pos- session of the facts, and of the trend of things in the Japan Mission ; that there is strict attention given to our work there, and to the condition of things existing in that country. My own judgment is in harmony with what has been said. We ought to have a strong school of theology. (Hear, hear.) A school for the teaching of ministers and evangelists that you can be sure of in this country, and that our men yonder can be sure of abo. There is no doubt that the Japanese mind is thoroughly alert on all questions that pertain to science and religion, and the general pro- gress of the world in civilization. They are very ready to catch up a new thing, and perhaps not to weigh it and understatid its beari-.ig ; and the thought that it is a new thing, proposed by somebody with a name, may influence them to accept it for the time being, and be carried away with it. During my ministry there we had no trouble on the score of doctrine or theology. Nevertheless it is not because I am not there that trouble has arisen ; I want to state that distinctly, The condition of things will be understood by a few words or statements historically. Up to about six or seven years ago, there was no broavell upon it in our theological schools. The result was that the scholarly men amongst the native ministers of the diftercnt denominations there began to get lie literature from America and England, and some of them were able to read German, an(,l got the free theology from (iermany. Then there came the Swiss Evangelical, which means the Swiss Unitarian. 'I'l.eir name Evan- g.-lical is u niisnoiiier, for they deny the fundamental truth reaarding the Scriptures and the Deity of our Lord. They began to pulilish their views in moi" ly pi'riodicals, and the whole question of the higher criti- cisiiH, the books of the Old Testament, i ho authenticity of the Oospel of St. John, questions relating to tin Deity of our Lord and the atoneiiieiit, and many other things were spread before the intellectual young men ano ministers of Japan. The result -.vas that many nanv(> ministers turiKii aside from wliiil v.e regard as the faith, and some of them wrote books and published them. W !o8t no minister, no candidate for the ministry, but I was suri^^ Uod 176 OBNBRAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1895. and grievod to find that it hM at last begun to touch u«. It ii not the f^ult of our misslonaripi there, for they are aound in the faith, and I know that they are well trained. Some of them at least have had special theological trnia- Ing. Now the difficulty has begun to touch us, but uu this very account we must maintain in that country a sohool of theology in the hands of men who are able to stand face to face with any difficulty ; iiieii wliu know the faith and ai-e able to t^ach it mid to defend it If we have such men there, the Japanese will give them their confi- dence and wu shall not lose many. We iiiny lose a few, some of these men that are touched may go. )>ir purposes of adminis- tration. But the thought that is in my mind respecting the work in the country generally — the evangelistic wurk -is this, that if the brethren who are there now will stay with us and grow old in the work there, they will acquire influence and power, and render service of the greatest })0b- sihie value. I do not know that it amounts to ao mucii to send a man of years who cannot ac(]uire the language, and who must always be at a disadvantage so far as knowing what the people are conimunicating among themselves ; but in other rPi.j)ects they will pay great heed to the counsels and s!iow nmcii deferenco to the views uf a nuin who is known to be a man of e.\i)erience and infliiei.ce, trusted in this country, and sent to them for the purpose of helping them in their work. 1 would not say that we should withdraw our men who arc in the liold ; that we should not reduce our fon-i^^n missionary staff to a very small numl>«r : but that we should maintain as many ut least as are there now ; that we should have men at dif ferent points in the country, in special places like Shizu oka and Kanazawa and .some other places. The policy of the Methodist Kpia<.-opal Church is to keep their staff of foreign workers just about iit the same number continu- ously, and when on.? is withdrawn for any reason, another is sent to take his -place. Tliey have alwut twenty in Japan. They do not propose to have any more foreign workers than alraut that numl)er. There is another thing of considerable importance; The Methodist Episcopal Church sends a Bishop every year to hold tlie Conferenre in Japan. He goes to that Conference- t'roiu the home Church as the chief officer of the home Church, and his counsels, his sermons, his oonversaticn, his ministrations altogether have the greatest possibl'j weight with the Japanese. Now, if we could do something that would approximate to that course and let a chief officer of the Church occasionally visit Jafuin. the expense would not \>e very great and the l)enefit 1 am sure would be very ^'reat iu helping our work yonder. It is a great matter Ui see a chief otficer from the home Chureh. When the Gentral Secretary visited us, it wa,s an event ; and if once in two or three years there could be such a visit it woul'l be accepted as an event of rt^al value and importance to the native Church and also tothi" missionaries themselves. My judgment quite approves the propi.sition to maintain in full strength and etlici'" ry our theological school ; to maintain a small staff' i ujrtign missionaiics iu tde evan- gelistic work, and no,, to 11. i'«a8e i'ar 'Air very liirgejy. Never to have the idea of i..»..ti,i,', r. .•tignc here as pas- tors of Japanese (locks; ratii < lastor Oi pastors — a counsellor of the paftors. Dk. Potts — You m'4n h' t!.,i'. .. lori • ! praociiiJtf elder- ship, a man having c' .■••,• «».'»> u'-tiiatt Dr. Cochkax W > i, t( 4t d<- • 'Jn. We Im »e , <_ jnfer- ic .•irlui" '. iri»<(ictif.ii. Ill* -.-f) first eh'ctiun . ■" the ( 'onf M I'tice, -a m. ■< itu \ liut i I tJjmi M i.i.". ; 1 kirnmi. i the ■ 7 d. . inference, ami iit' r^KSiun til le was Japanese will exercise their discretion in the nutter of electing a foreigner or one of themselves. The service that a foreigner can render, if he speaks the language well, is more that of visiting the churches throughout the work, and by sermons and lectures and the spirit that he will throw into the Church, encourage the pastors and thr native churehe^ giving them a sort of fresh impulse by his enthusiasm and his faith, and his wise counsel. That is the best service that a foreigner can render, and I felt regret, if I may speak of it here, that my dear friend, Dr. Kliy, did not turn his whole attentiou to that kind of work, rather than to the Tabernacle enterprise. When 1 went out in 1884 I found the Taliernaole in its inaipioncv. I saw what I thought was difficulty in the future, and I did counsel with Dr. Eby, asking him to throw himself into the general work of giving on impulse to the native churches and pastors throughout the cnuntrv, with the enthusia.sm witli which he is gifted. lie said he saw my point and was in hirmony with my views, but his own judgment approveil rather that he should have a platform for him.self where he c8 curicvsity. The congregation is larger, the attention is increased, and if ho throws the warmth of his heart amongst them it encourages the native pi-eacher or pastoi, and it encourages the little flock. That is the l>est service that a foreigner can n>nder in the evangelistic field. If he settles down to some littl.. point it is paying rather too much, unless it is to begin work. But to become a pastor of a native church on the part of a foreign mission ary is, in my opinion, an absurd thing. Not that he could not Ih-cohic a ]>astor. Many of our men could adapt ther^i .s»"lve« anil Ijecome vei-y good jiostors, but it would not pay. The Japanese will make lietter pastors than our foreign missionarie.N, and it will advance our work Iwtter that they !»• the ]>astors. I will !»• glad to answer any questions. Mr, LA-VCiKo"" — ' *I.ink this is very important. 1 am in tlioriiugh svnipothy with the resolution of Dr. Maclaren, hut the difficulty raised is a very serious one. We an' deciding that it would Ih' wise to do so and so, but the c)uestion to me is, can we do so anil so. The men are not forthromiiig. Could Dr. Cochran shed any light upon the fad that no men are offering themselves to the ministry in .lapan ! And is there a probability that that difficulty will (lOss away I Dr. Cucuk.\n That difficulty is one that presses upm all the native churches in Japan just now. I'll. PoTTs -It is not likely to Iw {)ormanent, I Ml. CocHR.\N I think not. There has been during the jMist three years or more a sort of returning wavo inst<'ii>i! It elects ill!' chainiien of ■ that w( hiul after the oi, one of the ilistricts we hi 'I ,i foi of electing that forei;.{n inissiunary District, a Jajiiiiicsc «as clei > the foreign missionary felt that at an ^nd, and he went to another pai v of the field. The (The Board .vsoIvihI itself 'nto Committee of the Whole.) TiiR CiiAiKM.vv— What IN t'le next [xiintl .Mu, AiKiN»--l would lik • to ask Dr. Cochran a «|ues tion, or ru'her I wo>d..r. ' Dii. Coct.:iAN- -.Mr. Cassidy came to Jaisiii in 1886, ami I retinsi from the Held in June, 189.3 I was absent ;i year on furlough during that (leriiMl lM>tw(>cn 1880 ami 1893. Nearly six years wtf were fellow-lalsirers. Q, Vere you fairly well at^iuainted with his methori(' ' '/ A. Oh, 1 thi.ik so. ',., How V iUH he legardiil on h' field by the nativi Church '.' A. l^\ion the whole he was ca|>able and useful, I. You .say upon the whole f Why do you make thiu lii litalion'f .A. Well, there wore occasionally -one in stance, anyway, of ccmllict. (^, Having regard to the circumstcices of the Church in Ja].»,n as nt present existing, and the troubles that lia\> been disch>seecauae men must get on soiMeiiow if tiiey live together), thoy did not get on ,smiM)tlily. Q. How about the relationship .if .Mr. t'assicly with the native element on the held,' A. With ilie exception of his communication to and his icliitioii with one r. Cocliraii in this connection if he wishes. Dk. TovklL — 1 would like to ask Dr. C'ochrau what he thinks of this sentence, no page lilt of the Ue\iew, liy .Mr. Hiraiwa ( "Sjieakinj, of the possi'vl'tv of the i-eturn of y<\ Cassidy to .)a|ian, .Mr. Iliraiwa thinks tiie ert'ect would noi be bad rs or such a letti'r to any native ministe'-. for there was excessive temper in it. Mr. AlKl.ss If there are no fnrthci- ipn'stions to iie asked of Dr. Cochran, 1 would like to ask if a letter was n-ceived by the (ieneral ."secretary from Air. ('assidy respecting em].loyment on the home field. Du. SuTIIKlll.ANli -Yes, there is a letter referring to that. Mil. .VlKINS — Personally, I should like to hear it. (Dr. Sutherland reads letter.! Du. .SlTIIKIlLANO - I acknowledged the receipt of it oil the loth of the sann- month. There is another letter, !iul it is simplv a recpn'st in reference to his iesnrance premiums, which came due at a (■eriain lime. Tlu'se letters were referred to the (Jenei-.il Hoard. Mil. NixoS -I move, se-'onileil by Mr. Torramu", that the Kxecuti\n be ainhori/,eii. HvrK.MAN- It seems to no that from what Dr. Cochran has said with regard to the spirit of Mr. Him'wa, being a man of tJhristian spiirit, he sees the possibility of the missionaries coming to a g lod understanding as to the relations among themselves, in which case they could carry on ihe work in Japan very effectively. Now, I feel pretty strongly and think I see pretty clearly on this point. I have known a gooil many S(|uabbles in the Church, and I havo known these sijuabbles to be taken hold of by the su])erinten(lent of a circuit, or ccher person who might liav(! to deal with them, and by appealing to the.se contend- ing and cimti ntious persons, on grounds of Christian prin- ciple, leading them to bury all bygones that are wrong, begin again on a basis of sound Christian love and co-oper- ation, and go on in right lines of Christian life and service, as if nothing had ever happened. I have had such cases to deal with myself, and 1 think I can say this, that I never knew a case in which members of the Church, with any love of (Jod in their l-oarts, nere appealed to, notwith- standing past iiuarrels and (ii evocations, to act like Chpis- tians and work together in real Christian love, in which I have not succeeded. Now it has Ijeen said that in Japan a:i irritating letter was written by a foreign mission- ary to a Japanese missionary. I wonder if ever in this Canada of ours, and in this Methodist Church <•' ours, any pieacher ever wrote an irritating letter to another preacher. (" Xo," and laughter.) We underBtand that, it makes all the more cleat the force of what I am s.iying. That thing has occurred over and over, and with vhat result? The.se ililliculties between minist> r.s, of which some of us have been too often cognizant, when considered in a proper manner, have been adjusted in a proper manner, and thor- oughly adjusted, and the jiersons who hail ('isagreed as t hristiairs, or as Christian ministers, were abl., thereafter, from th(! les.sons they learned, to pursue a be' v course of Christ ian conduct. Now I do not think that ly oi lh">se diliicullies in Japan are so .serious that we sh i not have ho])c. and liHik for success in adjusting tlidi that these persons whose mimes are before us may gi k to Japan on the basis of real Christian love and ■ ration, and work together as Christians ought. 1 tlm, ihat is quite possible. What is to be the alternative ! it ihese persons implicated or concerneil in this case ar> lained in this country, what then ' M'ill thej' be in , hkI relation to each other ! Will they be friends witi -in other? Are we not putting them by reason of si a plan in such a position as will make it sure tiiat tin ditficulties will go without remedying! Will they not maintain in their hearts and in their attitudes towards each other a state ami spirit of irri'conciliation, want of harmony? If we want Ihat to continue let us keep these |« sons away from theii- Work. Now, I look in the other dir' i tion, and I look \erv liopefully. It seems to me that it 1 had been placed with such responsibility and uiniccustonn d duties on that foreign soil as these per.sons were placed in, I would very likelv have made as .serious mistakes lu- they have maile, and It would be eipially .so with any men i.-i of this Board. Now, I think for myself that, having ;uet with unex- pei'ted dilliculties on that ground, and having got into trouble because of these ditficulties, and having involved tiie Church and the interests of (iod's cause in these troubles, through my mistakes, it could not but be that I should learn something from the circumstances, and if piermitted lo go back to my work I would qo with a better 178 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS. 1895. hflkrti with » mora level head, &nd with • itrongor and more single purpose to do Christ'ii work, and do it well. I think that these persons of whom we are thinking to-night are just as apt to learn lessons as I would Ixt, and I do not regard these difficulties as of m) serious a ilinrocter as to be without remedy. These persons are the ones that can help us bring these troubles to an end utterly by plac- ing them in a position where they eau do our work, the work of the Chui-ch of Christ, side by side with each other. Now, brethren, I would not plead for one moment for the return of these persons tfl Japan if the old state of things was tu go on, or if I thought there was reasonable danger that the old dilhculties would bo pcrpetuat,irgo and the explanatitm connected with it, is that to -lo to the public or what becomes of it I I wish to know simply because 1 liave a little request to make in case it goes to the public. Thk Chairman— Well, the Board will attend U> its own matter. I cannot answer that question. Mn. AiKi.s*— I think Mr. Ca-ssidy had better make the explanation. Mk. Cassidy — 1 simply iiwd to say this, that if it is •„> go to the public then 1 wish this reservation tols' reconled, that I re.s(?rve the right to enter an explanation, as when Brother Kuestis a.sked for an explanation today you will remember I preferred to drop it. I thought we had done enough along timt line, that we understood (me imother. anu that we ha a committee selected by the Board to make a satisfactory condensation of the whole thing for the public press. It. seems to me that that would he the proper method to pursue. Du. StTiiKiii.ANU — Of course it would bo perfectly com- petent for the Board, if they choose, to tjike that course, to luive the re|M)rt of this Board's prt)ceedings edited in any way they think best, although 1 would have my own opinion as to the wi.sdom of any such course ; but it seems to me that the Board cannot pursue such a course in regard to my statement. That is my answer to the Methodist public touching the complaints that have been miule against me and the Executive. Mil. .\iKiNs— There is a ivsolution before the Board, and the matter that is l)eing discussed is entirely irrelevant to that resolution. The Chairman — Still it is raised on personal grounds. It is not out of oilier. Mu (ifUNKV -Mr. Cassidy intimated his intention ot withdrawing. I should l)e very sorry that ho should do so. This discussion is likely to interest him as much as any of us, and T should not care to sp'ak as I intend to sjieak if he goes awiiy. I think he .should stay. The Chairman — IVihaps Mr. Ciissidy will reconsider thiit intention, if it is the desire of the members of the Board that he slioidd ii'uiain. •Mil. (Cassidy -If it is the desire of the members, cer lainly I shall remain. TiiK Ciiaiuman - I have heard nolxsiy desire that you should withdraw, and I have lieaM one say he prefers you sliouUI remain. The majority I have heard prefer you should remain. Mu. Cassiuy — Shall I wait for the other question until I hear what is to Iw done with the reports I TllK CllAIRMAN--Yes. Mil Cassidy -Then the other little matter which I wisli to explain is that which is raised by the (|uesti(m of Mr Aikiiis to Dr. Cis,'liian. 1 did not exjs'ct that to c(mie u). here, still 1 think the way the (|ueKtions were asked, aii'i the manner in which thi' subject was led, places me in a ]Kisition where I ought tu oiler a woitl of explanatinn Of cotn's«', now I have to give my own testimony, which I wish 1 hail not to do in reganl to myself, i have hiul vimv pleasant, ii-lations with the .fapaiiesc^ iluring niy seviii yeai-s' work with them. I have Iwen more freiiuenliv accused of over-laxity, in going Its) far in lM.'coniing .i Japanese myself, than otherwise, but 1 can assure you thiii anyone who is the acting Chairman of ,i District, that i.s in any ollieial position in Japan, is in a very ilelicati jHisition. The man wlm will Imld that jHwition for .i number of yeai-s without a ripple would be a marvel, in fact it i^; almost an impossibility for a foreigner to do it and for a foreigner to continue as long in the jiositi much from him in somo resiwjcta that wny. He paino t be improved, he would .sometimes suggest other ways of doing, which I thought, it woidd have Ijcen better for him to have said to me, or ti have said throui'h me to the men so that I should understand it, and I -vould not bo loft in the ah-urd poinphusize tlie pain that he suiVeied. I heard immi;diatelv afli rw.irds ab ut the trouble ho was in, and till! inouieiit I heard it I wrote him a hearty h.tter, assuring him tirrt he w.is put in that school by the I'onfer- enco : that we would stand by him , that he should not have any fear as to liow they Healed him ; that hi- need not be afraid of anytu.ng, and as far as anything I said tohim the other day was concerned, nut to think of that until his own troubles were all over, and then I could have any explinatinn he wanted to make. He said himself that when he received my letter, undnaw my heart and spirit toward.s hiiu, he some of ilie.se things he was ■ti a luiriicd vii'w around, but and in -ome of the plai'cs lie le unUi'r-i-slinnted the ilcgreo bill's. It was at a time when road it with tears in his eyes ; and aa for any ill-feeling between us, 1 know of none. I do not think there is any- thing in it, but, as Dr. llyckruan has said, such ns lx)th of us may learn a lessoji from. Certainly he ought to learn a lesson, and I ought to. As fin' friction with the Japanese, I do not think anyone has hud less, unless it is Dr. Cochraa. Dr. Cochran is a univer al favorite of the Japanese, and is so smooth in his wivy he never seems to cause a ripple. Wo try to imitate him in that respect, and wo do not always succeed. I have kept Mr. Hiraiwu's letters to show 3()U the good spirit and the good heart in which we entered into the matter. It was thoroughly explained between us, and it was thoroughly cleared uj). He told me himself that he had mentioned it to Dr. Macdonald, not as allecting mo now, but as a thing that did hurt him when tho oihi'r thing was on. So far as I know that was the end of it. Ml!. AlKiNS — About what was the date of that letter? Mil. C.\s8liiv^Somc time in November, I think, of 1892. l)ii. Pons -Ancient history. Dii. TovEi.i, — Mr. President, I tremble just here lest we should make a mistake. It does seem to ine that from the the beginning of our Board meeting, or of this committee meeting, we have been wisely guided. I believe that we will not Ijo left without Divine guidance here, and that we shall not fail to exerci.se the same forbearance towards each other now that we have exercised during the whole of the discussion connected with this ([uestion. I appre- hend that my judgment in this matter will not be in hainiony with the judgment of some of the brethren, some of those who ha\e been longer associated with this mission work than I have been ; but having been con- nected wiih this missionary question for many months, and having heard evervtiiing that could bo said respecting it, 1 am in fa\or of Mr. Cass dy's return to Japan. We have now come to wdiat 1 regard as the crucial point, the decision of the case of Brother Cassidy. I had feared on coming together that something ■ -ly »erious would be disclosed th.it would damage his ' Iv.iiU' for good in the future of his ministry. My hear ..'joicw to find that according to the documentary evidence there is nothing damaging to his ministerial character. I do not say that I li.ive looked upon all the steps taken by .Mr. Cassidy, or upon all llie words .said, or all the letters wiitten, as being always discreet. Indeed, the reverse of this is true in ono case, namely, in that one letter written to Mrs. Large, which he said was wiitten just after waking in the morn- ing. My thought was, that if he had waited until after bieakfasi, he woiilil not have written that letter. But I never listeiieil to letters that contained a better spirit than those tlir.t followed that one letter to Mrs. Large. The apologv niadi! was .unple, and was accepted. And when to day I saw Mr. Cassidy step across the room and shake hands with Mrs. Large in warm Christian greeting, I said to niys 'If, the morning has come and we will have peace again, liarmony and prosperity. And I trust we shall reach some conclusion in connection with this matter that will not only inultij.ly the influence and power of lirother C issidv in his ministry, but also further the opportunities of usefulness of Mrs. Large as well I am delighted to learn from .Mr. 1 1 iraiwa's letter that on certain conditions the return of Jlr Cissidy to Japan would bo an advantage to the work. The judgment, also, of the six brethren of the Council, as expressed in a resolution and presented to this Hoard, f.ivors Mr. Cassidy's return. These brethren have been rejiresented to us as worthy men. I value the re.Milution that they have sent to us and believe that their judgment is worthy of being respected by this Board, toucliing this question. Now, before this investigation took place, before wo had the information now before us, there seemed to be astiong feeling through the country that Mr. Cassidy '.s place was in Japan. He had spent time and money to ])ie)iare himself. Ho is a capable man in the use of the laigua'.;e. Hi." understands the manners and customs of the people. His general record has been good. His standing is good to day in Japan. It will be wisdom on our part to give him what seems to be his ii.uural place. In view of all the facts and circumstances, my conviction is that for the sake of the peace of our Church at home, for tho sake of tho prosperity of our Church in Japan, for the MP^^V*^' ■¥f ., - t.y ^y,, ' -rgy-»;jp-!F»'«' 180 GENERAL BOARD OF MISSIONS, 189S. a«ke of unity between Uve Wnmaii'M Miwioimry Solli«r Caa- «idjr ip in Japan ■, and I shall NHp|H)rt. uiiy n'sohilioii that may b« preaentwl for liis return. Tub Chairman - \W Ujivp a n>iK>hition bpfoni iih, uiovrd hy Brother Nixon. (The rtwjlution rpfern<lii\fil tor the our rent Conference year. Thb Chairman- Ah I underntand the resolution, I tihould feel the fcxeoutive was aulliori/.n! to nend liiiii to Japan. Mr. Ournbv — There is nothing. I Ix-liove, in that rewi lution to liiuder the Exwiutive Conitnitfee from seiidini; him to Japan or China. Tbk Chairman— If that is the understanding, very well. Dr. Suthkrlanw— Assuming for the iiii/inent tiiiit this resolution passes, if the Executive should deeide to seud Mr. Cassidy to Ja^mn, then it would not the remunenition of a missionary on furlouj;li, whioli is lt»8 than tiie remuneration of a niissioiiai-y in .lapan. The Ch.virman — Ch no. I am not liere to \ery seri ously influence the Board, V)ut to throw upon the Executi\e tho resptmsibility tluit this Board is uuwillinu to take, it seems to rae, will not ju.stify the Boanl licfon'tlie inuiilry. If the Board dtws not want him to return, tlie Itcianl, 1 think, should stiy so. Mr. Maclarbn --If circumstances .sliould change during the year 1 ^itt. Lanofobd — I am preparr is not in Canada, but in Japan, lie has acfjuired such a knowhsiue of the language thai, on the t«8timlace in advance of Mr. Cassidy in reference to his ability and the ease with wnich he can jireach in Japanese Now, tliere may be other serious dirti-ullies that have not Incn mi'ii- tioned. but in this connection, as far as the subject is now before us, the (mly olijection raised by Dr. Cis'hian is that on a certain la-casion Mr. Cassidy wrote a letter to one of the Japanese preacherN. [t sei-nifsl to have createul if I had been placed in circumstances such as Brothei Cassidy said he was in, and if s(mie iwoilier just ordained at the last ConferMee should do what the lirother that he has roferrwl to did in his case, I think I would havi' sent a very loving epistle to him that would have vtraighteneii him out and givwi him to undei-stand that I was (juiie capable of attending to tlio work and duties of the Chair of the district. I do not think tJiav Brother Caasidy erre.| very, very seriously in that respent. Tliero may )>o other instances . but to make that a gmund of our action in ntfu.. ing to let Bi-olher Cassidy go liack again to thut land where his heart is, and wlieni, I think, he is pitipared I.. devote himself to the work with all tho zeal and ener^v that UihI has given him, wouhl !«• a very serious mattei iiidi>ed. Now, 1 will take the view that has bi'en e.\ pressed by others, and I want to emphasiyAi it. 1 U'lieve thai (isl is leadinn us; that there has Imioii a foiiehiii:, tender. ble.s,sr of a rejietition of the tliiiiL;- that have troubled u.s. 1 do not think it can grow out nl' (ir come forth from the spirit and temper that has U'en in this meetini;. 1 think the evils have lieen cunsl ; and 1 Isdieve that if Brother (Cassidy could go luick again ii wdiild Is- one of the wisest things in settling these verv diltieulties. We are not goiny to run away from lliem, we are going to face them in the name of the Ixird Jesiis, and these brothers and sisters, I Ixdieve, will share tin- spirit. We ,ire net going to separate them, and think that we can adjust and .settle, and leiui everyone to (piiel and I, I peace.dile lives, by putting the grejit sweeping waters of the I'acifio betwfen them ; but, by the griu^o of (I'd, wc will get nearer than such immense distances, anil we sliall yet close toi;c>tliir in the ha|>py, [leaeeful fellowship and Ionc whieli till' preseiu'c' of the Spirit shall give to us, and «r shall s.'ltle these matt^'rs Is-lter in that way than in aiiv other. There will lie a tremendous disap|Kiiiitmeiit ail ov.T this country if Brother Cassidy is not sent back. I bebexe there will lie serious result« following from li:i aelionof this nmiinitte«' if it exercises its authority in that direction : and if it is the last lime I have to s|M'ai, in this eomiiiittee, I want to say that in my heart and .sou' 1 Is'lieve that Brotiier CiisKidy siiould go back to .Iap:ii I move the resolution. .Mil. ToHiuM'K Is it not true that there is an under st Hilling betwiiui this Boanl and the Woman's Missionarv Smiety, with reference to the recall of Mr. Cassidy aiil Mrs, jjirgt.' ,' TiiK CliAiRMAX — l„et the documents answer. .Mil, ToHHANrK I uiid:'rstis>d so. 1 think we are goiii- a little tiH) fast. I think that is a matter for arrangeiiien' with the Woman's Missionary Society tirst Is'fore we aic prejiared to take I'lal step. I'H. I.Hii.i.s It isall very well, Mr. ChnMiiian, to lislin to exhortations, for that is just what we have heard. I'n euiiistances have not changed. The i'acts have not change! .Vftir the words stated by Dr. Cix'hran, that in his opineii It Would be unwise to send .Mr. Cassidy out to Japan. 1 cannot vote for his iminediati' return, in face of the opinion of one who i> Ml highly honorisi and was so successful ni that Eastern land I have no objection whatever, if iIm- Cliairman would not rule it out, for tin Executive to lie authorized to send Mr. Cassidy to Japan when hiirinoiiy would be restol-fsi ; Inil all this talk, as if Dr. Macdonilil were just wailing to welcome and clasp him in his arm- we know nothing of this. We have had trouble, and unlii we know there will be no further trouble when we sind back the men who lia\e had something to do with it, I say, in the face of our ignorance of any change wliatcM i. and in the hearing of the worih of |)r. Cochran, it wmiM, in my oiiinioii. Is- utter unwisdom to carry a resolution fm th" imniisliate sending of Mr. CVssidy to .lapan. .Mil. CllivKV I feel the (jii'alest po.ssible hesitancy ii; sfM-akinj; on tliis siitijeet, and yet I feel it t^' be my ilmv to .say a few words as to how this matt,n largo, if there liad \m>n ■trongly defliiwl inMUO* ax Utwi'oii Mr. Ciimidy and the governing autiwritieH uf the 01iuii:h, mo that wa iMuld have before un distinotly soiiielhiiiK he iiad done that lie might proiniito not to repeat, I would liold up l,oth hatids for Mr. Ciuwidy'H return to .lapaii inunediatelv. Hut what ore the faotjt 1 Mr. Ca.sHidy stands liet'ore uh, aiid in relation to every projKwition that is luiide deolares that he did nothing (if hih own volition in the way of vM-on^doinj!. Everything that he has done huslieen iiiteiKled to h.' ri«lit. Now, I t«lce him at his word. | am not now speaking in any sense with a ilesire to ihi him any dishonor, or to show him any lack of lesiHMt. lie Is'lon^s to that unfortunate clawi of right thinkin)< men wh.. are nntion, not simply virtue, hut you must h.ive a man of tart , a man (|ualifiod to ii-present you as you would wish to he repiesenterv mistake that in nnulo in the liusiness life (,f a man in selecting' repre sentatives in distjint tields. Is the n-ult of a had siOection in reference to this very tiling -tact. If I were to ajipeal to Mr. Cox tonight as to the nualily of men needed in refer enco to different tields of operation, I know from my own oxjierience that he would say that ji good iuan in one place is not necessarily .1 g(MMi man in another (.'ice; that a man who has certain ipialilies of mind vmII serve well under the immediate supi'rMsion of .i heaii >tliie. or of the exovrutive of a Issly, when the same man. placed at one or two thousand miles from headipiarters, niiiy make ducks and drakes of everything that i.s c mitted to him. I do not wish to go into any detail, hut in the alisence of any knowle]iioacli this m.itter from different stjindpoints. (,'ertuin condilioii.s iiave hrought UK to the |)resent. As far as I ciiii ascertain, those con- ditions remain practically unchanged. It is an open secret that .Mr. t'assidy's and Mrs. Laige's presence in this country now are rel.ited necessarily relati'd. So far ,18 this committee has any knowledge, the judgnient of those two persons h,is not changed matiM'ially touching the history of the past. 'I'liey have vimlicitcd, from their re spective stand |)oinl.s, their conduct in .lapaii. They have, in a general wav, confessed that they were liahle to errors of juilgment as all jMsiple are, hut u|)on upon no particular specific point has one or the other, so far as I know, heeii willing to admit that there was any radical mistake. Now, in the presence of those conditions that have caused the return of those tvio |»isons here, what reason have we for exijeoting that the leUtioiis '^f the future will !«■ any lMitt4ir Ihaii the relations of the past ! 1 wouhl he dc lighler Biiijm pnti tlioso HUg gesticmt into tlio form of a rcHolntinn I will sM-conil it. I>ll. BHKKiH Dr. T, ti. WilliaiiH u Usrcoiid it ivNo. Mn. AlKlN* — 'riicn I Hurrcndi'r tin- si'coiidiiijj; of it to Dr. Willi im'i. llHct>m^lo me I'lniiuMitly il('sir.il)li' timt if Mr. t'lVMtidy it of the |iri)|)i'r npirit towiirds Jiip:>n iind lli" Japan Mission, knowing; llmt wp arc ^o niueli doprnding upon assistunci- at homo for tlio support llicrr, Mr. Cisbidy o«n do far nil ro in lio.iling thrsc ililVunltios if ho reirminn in Canrula tli.in ho can hy going to J/ip.'in. Tlio .Missinn- ary Sooioly cinnot do Ixittiir than oniploy Mr. Ci.snidy lioro in Canada, niid if ho is trwo to liiirinrlf an I triio to tho missionary spirit, hofort> ho is aski-d t i go to .Iap:iii agiin tho wliolo dilKi'iilty, si far as lio is riviirrriic I, can l)0 enn- pletoly lioiiled ; and if hi- do\s hral llial dillirulty, and I lx>lii'Vo it is in liis power to lio.il it, tlirn tln' Ktcciitivo Conunittoe would not only lo juitilicd, Init would do nothing less than what wa> right and wis-and host, if lliry at once .send him to .lap.m to c.-imp'i'to wh.it lip hn« com- menccil in Can.ula, tho n'ostablishmi'iit of nnity in tlio Japan Mission 80 f.ir as I am conioriusj I would liko to know mom about .\|r. C.wsidy, moro aUmt liia s|iirit, morn about his .4.' .i'l I'A r,o a'.ility, more alxiiit his laot upon the fielil, iiefom I wouhi think it dcsirablo to come to a conclusion a-s 10 wholhor he ought to lio rcturnt^l tn .lapan or not. Now, i oannr>t como to thoso conrlusinns rxrcpl from the ovi lonco ihat is huforo this cunimittiT I'.xhorta- tions have lK>on o.xcollont, and I tliink they are \ory profior in thoir plai-o ; liut it seems to me that we must, act on tho evidence and the sfatement-s U'fore the committee. If we act on the ovidenco and on the stvt^ments before the committee, iire wo to come to tho conclusion that Ihat.lnint Commission was not directed hy Providence, that the Executive Committeo wiis not directed hv I'r ividi noe, and that wo will, on this partuular occasion, he dili'Cte.l bv Providence 'I Tho same facts, \ pri'sumo, were Itefo o these bodies — the (.'nmmission an I f!ie Kxecutivo — that we havn now before the Duard, only |Kiliaps we liave fuller facts'. Under the circumstances, ii seems to iiif best that .Mr. Cassidy Ih- retained 01 I'annda, and if i.i theopiniim I'f the Executive they tind that subsi p/i-ntly it is desirable he should Ik' returned to .I.ipan, 1 tlinik weou^'hl to untliDrize the E.veeutne t'liUMnillie tn sn return him. Mil. TouuvNCi: lias that letter be^'ii found wjili refer- ence to the arinngenieiit with tlie Woman's Missionary Society ? I wish it t4) l«' read. TllK Cii,MitM.\N - The .Secretary will pleago reiul it. (Tlie resolution of the .Joint Committee of the two Societies wiLs iif w re.id.) Mit. Toiiii.vM K -It sii-ms to me tliis Roard i.s committed. You have arr.in;,'ed with tlie Woman's Mi^sion.iiy .Ss-iety to do certiiin things. It wmild lie entirely out of place for the Binrd here to attein[it to pa.ss such a resolution with- out first coiiimmicating ami arranging with the Woman's Missionary >>ii some of the ipiestioiii we have decided. I would f(!el tha<. it would lie a happy consuiiiiiiation, indeed, if we rould en'y ii'^ieo on this tliird ipiestioii which conies In-fore IIS. Notv I want icently to repudiate tho insinuation that lias been made just now that ihoie of us whose judgment is in favor of Air Cassiily's return to Jspsii are moved oxcUisively by kindinss of heart ; that wo are delivering exiinr'aliii.is. I think that these leinnrkR were uiiMOinl). A Meih.ilisl preacher may have a kind honrt —he ought tn, lull I think it likely in inattors tinit iiiroct our Church ho is III just as ^ooil a pisilion for forming an unliiasMil judg nieiit as even a Mitlioilist lavvyer. Iit iiiiKKiH— Then I have such lospect for his largo- hearled exhoi liilions that I cannot help but yield. Mil. Kkttlkwki.i, — I hero are times when o.xhortationi are in place, but if exliorlalions take the place of argument in a Board of this kind, tliey are sadly out of place. Now, if you vvill allow me a word or two, I will speak lirai of all abriiit the aini'iidinoit to the aniondiiK nt, wli'v,h proposns that Mr. Cassidy shall be cniplovcd ly the Executive, and that ill toitaiii lOhtingoiu-ios he may bo sent, at tl|e dis- crolinn ol' the Kxi'cntive, back to Japan. I want the niem- \iers of iliis Boaid to ask themselves whether Mr. Cassidv would be ill a p>»itiiin to bo useful to the Society in this country. I am sure that I am not nsin^ too strong an expression when I say fhit if this lio.ird delilieralely refuses to send Mr. Cassidy back to >Ia^-an beca.iso he is 1 okin^ ill tact, in business ab lity, in lomnion sense, lie is not the man to sen I tliroii;;h the h iigth and breailtli of this coUHtiy to represent tin- missionary eau»o at a crisis nf this k'li'l. Then, a^ain, '.vhii about his own povilion ns '1 mil. ister that has been withdrawn from the work ( Is it bki'lv that, standing in our pulpits or on our platforms, lie will have a lari;e iiillueiiee with our eongrrgalions when !io h.ts been disi reditid liy this Slissionary Board — disereilited as a successful inivsioi.aiy. His character has iint been discriiliieil. That stands just ns hijjh as any of our iiiiniH tors; but is the man that is so indiscreet ihiit he cannot bo sent back tn th.i iiiis>ioii field, or must bo kept lure on priibatiiin to see that ho 1 eliaves himself before he is sent Ipiek — is that man likely to have any intluemo such as we wish in .'uldr, ssin;; 1 ur coni;rof;ation 1 I ti;ink tin' pro piisal is perfertly alsiird. I can conceive that if Mr. Cas- sidy vvont luck to J.ipiii lie iiii;;ht have an influence. If has b" n stated heie more than onco that it would seem exceeiliiii'lv (lo.irable that some one should go to Japan tn repioseiit the kiinlly feeling of this Boiiid, to say by viord of inoulh what cannot be said by written dncuments. Is tliire any nmii that wo lould send that would bo inoro likely to 111 ike favoi able re|)resentilioiis to thebrethrin that are feelini- hurt and unsettled than .Mr. Cassidy him Self} And can any member of this Board conceive that Mr. Casi.i iy, fioni this meoling, would go back to .lapiin .•ind stir up trnubb', or iint set himself to allay the feeliii;,' that exists there? I think ih. it this is just one of the reasons why Mr. ("assiily should •;'> baik. It we, in a spirit of coiniliatien, desirn to retain tho services of the brethren, provided they will como under the regulations and usages of the Board, then Mr. Cassidy's going back there hiuI epeiikinx vvith them faco to face, telling them of the pains- taking way in whii h wo hnil sifted the whole thing and piittii'g a k nd const inition upon our aciions, vvill bo nioro likely to settle matters than perhaps anything else. I think Mr. Ca-siily would be inoro useful in Japan in allay- ing thi» trouble tliau be can be koro at borne, especially as ho PROCEEDINGS HB JAPAN AFFAIRE ill «xl)ort nifl would rem»in »t homii m » iomfl« hal (liicr«ir noiiie ■etiiitivximM on tho part o( mcmliera of the Inte Kxm utlvn jn n»giiiil to llix rivpranl of the •i.tlon of tho E»ni)ulivf, or «t liant it ii iwHuniml tliiii Board would Im prmtioally r.uiTsliiK tiin a.linn, nml in doing 10 would Im uxpr«itin|{ im JiulKini-nt inlvMrsdv to their action. Tli»t iIoin not follow. TIki uutioii of tho Exucutivo wan only toMliilivi.. Hurcly (liosn l.rolhnMi did not for « iiioiiiPnt tliink that. wIhmi tli« muttiT wiimi licfcpin thia Board wo wnrn to \m Kiii'h"! tiy tlicir piiHt iiclion ? What have we Imich i(|«.|idmK iIhr limn alioiit 1 Why thould we l>fl lifir« nix dnyit oxaiiiiniiiK ihiH if, of iic(-fNnitv, we ihould follow thn anion of llm Kxroutivul Wn iiiiiy think tho Exnoutlvn wtiin viinn iiiidi>r cxiHtiiijf circiiiniitaiifcs, hut I tni«t wt. arn iiiidor M-ry ditl'i'ii-iit .■oiidilioiiN to iit 1 tliink Mr. Shorty Ihih ly that if Mr. CuMiidy went bin k tliiirc it would 1«) to ('H'l'ct a mnv sliirt, And wlmt urn tliti things that ari> laid iigaiiifil .Mr CiiUHidy t NVhy, wn frel aiiliainpd to tliink that huoIi triual tilings slmiild hiivo aH- sumed BUi'li hidoouH proporlmnH, \rn we ainoji U< niajjiiify these trivial lliinni by Mayinu ^1' 't '■!"" "'">' '■* "'>t "1"'" '"r Mr. Ca»sidy to go buck to .lapun 1 What is lliorn that hat Ipf-nii brought a','iiinst .Mr Ciissidy I .Mr. tluriwy refer'* towiuilof tai't. It would be ass\iMiii| liml the .Missioimiy Hoard would lie coiiKlitiilcd on Ihi- wholcof nun nf aviriiKB tact, and yet what imin iH I here ainon;; n.^ who, it' his iid- ministration were sifted aseiirefullv as the adniinistration of Mr.t'a8.sidy lins been durini,' ihe past seven yearH, would be able to coiiio out as well in llie matter if tact as he has done I I cannot conceive that any KU|ierinleiiileiit of a circuit who hat been on two charges, say six years, if his adniiiiistraiion werebiou.!ht umler ji inicro-co|iic examina- tion, as IniM the adniiiiisiralnui of Mr. (^isaidy, would puss more successfully iindi r review. 1 venture to dill'er with even so astute a biiHincss iinin as Mr. liiirni^v. 1 vi'iituie the opinion that instead of .Mr. Cassidy bein;,' lackinif in tact, that on the whole he is a tactful minister ami mis- lioiiary, and th.it it' he has madi' a mistake he has at least had thn f;race lo retrace his foiitsteps, and if he has dene the thing that si'emed to be unwise, he hiis had jiiaceeiiouyh to apoloiiizn and follow Ihe New Testament .ind the spirit of bis Master, and I think thai that sliowa remiirkably good tact. I do lift want to prevent otiier brethren taking a large pail in this discussion, but I feel that this ill a crucial (piesliou. I know what Iho fcclini,' is in my own ( 'ifernnce ; I know thai it was only by my own re- quest til it a motion was withdrawn which would have been presnn'ed to this any indivi- dual member of it and stale any circumstance or niiiulier of circuiii'-tiinces that would in my own feeling and in Ihe foelieg of my bnlhien justify the permanent recill of Mr. Cassidy from missionary work. I cannot but look upon the amnndment to the aiiiondment as a something designed to catch the unwary It is seen that there is a danger of tho gooti sense of 'liis Hoard sending Mr. C'asiidy nack to Japan, and that ameniliiinnt is a very cunning expedient that is brought in ns .i substitute. I ipiestion very much the advisability of relegatmn this matter to the Kxecutivo. 1 think the Kxeciiliva h.is done ils duly. I think we are under obligation to the Kxeciilive for tho way in which they have looked at this ipu'Stiou and the way in which they have acted during the past year, but 1 do not think that wo should roll tho responsibility of tinal action bark upon tlioin once more. Let us meet it. Let us face it. It is our rcspo.isibility ; and I think that wo are prepared— I trust we are — to send Mr. fassidy back, Mr. llUESTIH— I have listoncd with a good deal of atten- IM tion to the addreaaea that have been delivered on tho •ab- ject, and some of the brothers have expressed theniiolvet u|ion the point at issue lietter thin 1 can myself, I wish, however, liefore a vote is taken to state some reosoni why I vote as I feel I must do at the present moment. 'When wo opnnnil this discussion I tliink I stated that I was not prepared to cast annthnr vote upon this (luoslioii until we liad obtained all posHibIn light, and until I had some know ledge of the whole all'air, I may say that I am yet seeking light. It has been stated by the last speaker that in his judgmnnt Mr. CaHsidy could do much better work as our represent.itivn in Japan to day than he could in the home Held as our agent on furlough. Now, it Mr Cassidy returns to •lapan, he has never yet, as far as I know, expressed him- self as in perfect harmony with the action of the Kxeoutive, nor out of harmony with the six men that are in Japan in Ihnir attitude. I have heard him say this much, that he does not endorse or justify Iho last letter they sent ; but, if I mistake not, lie said on tlin tloor to-day, when we wore dis- cussing the publication of letters in that newspaper in Toronto, that it emanated largely from the six men in Japan, and that he endorsed their action in publishing it, although he was not a distinct party to it. You will understand that I do not think, therefore, that he could properly represent tho action I'lat wn have already taken should lie return to .lapan. Again, I have yet tc hear fioiii Mr Oa-sidy that he could work under Dr. Macdonald, who is nil' iigeiit. I may bn wrong, hut I have yet to hear from him that if he returns as our agent to Japan he could place himself under the chairmanship of the Kev. Dr. Mac doiiald, whoso action we have endorsed, and in whom wo have ex|iressed entire oontidenoe. Then the ijuestion of his relation to the Woman's Missionary Society is a matter that troubles iiie at the present time. As I understand it, if Mr. Cas-iidy is rnturnnd by this Board I think the feeling of the Church is quite as strong that Mrs. I^irge must be returned also. I'^nqiiiries have l'.>en made in the news- papers as to the reasons why Mi> i,arge is in this country, and I !>uppnsn these questions will have to lie answered by the Woman's .Missionary Society at. their meeting next week, just as w<' have had our own trouble before ua this week. Now, if I thought the conditions wen . hanged in any respect, if Brother tJassidy lia had gone as far in his staieninnt as Mm, I.>arge, ackr.jw ledging that he had not always shown the proper Christian spirit and had icgrotled it, my feeling would be difl'erent. But have wu had a single admission to that extent from our represi-ntativnl I wish in my heart that I could vote for the immediate return of Mr. Cassii'.y to Japan. If I felt that a mail who has given some time to the study of the language, and is well adapted for the work, could be employed to the adviinin ,,i the Church there, I would -say that is the place whe,. ho should be ; but as to the dear brethren who have said that thu Spirit of God will oomo down upon the workers out there, that they will learn by experience and that these troul les will not be |ierpetualed, I have not quite that faith. I would like to see some evidence of a changi uro. Now, it seems to me I 'lit if Mr. Cussiii, iiid Mrs. liarge, in this room and in the presence of this muly of people representing the Church, will shako hands over this matter and show us that they should 1' reti, • led (Interrupted.) A M >iii*K — rhey have shaken hands. Mil. iluEHTis- -And should they promise us that all these little trilling things that havo disturbed them before would not be for one moment considered ; — if I had that assurance I would vote this moment for the return of Mr. I'nssidy to .lapan ; but until that is done I do not «i • that conditions are changed. If wo Hliould pass a resolution such ns is before us now, it would certainly be equivalent to saying tiiat the Executive were under a mistake ; that they have committed a wrong, and we reverse their action. I feel tho gravity of thrt situation, and I am responsible for my vote. It is my desire to sen Mr. Cassidy back in the work in Japan ; but I cannot sen how I can vote for hii return until I have tho assurance that those miserable little things that have troubled them heretofore will not ^>. ^y IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) /. 4. A 1.0 I.I 11.25 l^|18 12.5 I so i"^™ H^B S ^ ||||£ llim U IlllllA <^ /# %' >>^ 7 ^^ 41^^ > % V' .<&., V /^, Photographic Sciences Corporation 23 WSSt MAIN STREET WEBSTER, NY. M5S0 (716) 872-4503 184 GENERAL BOABD OF MISSIONS. IMS. b« for one monwiit mentionau ; that they will beforaotten, and will not oooMum uiy trouble in the future. If I had that aiaaranoa, I would be prepared to vote for the reaolu- tion, but without that onuranoe, I have to support tk< amendment of Dr. Briggs. Dh. T. O. Wiuiamb— I think there ig not a member of thia Board, nor one who has been a listener to its delibera- tions, bat feels that we are in one of the crises of our mission work. It has been felt for more than a year past that diffioultiea have been converging, and we have now oorae (ace to face with what I will not designate in such a manner that I will be accused of exhorting you. I want to talk plain, straight, business common-sense to-night, and I want to say it without wounding tlie feelings of any, and yet without evading a single point that duty would suggest I should utter. Inference has been made to the proba- bility of the repetition of the series of acts which have cul- minated in this bad display which has been made before this Board for the past few days. I hope I am not too optim- istic in saying I do not believe that any who have partici- pated in these uifflculties in the past could by any poasi- bility Ml into such blunders again. I believe that the utterances of this Board, the deep sorrow which has been caused the Church from ocean to ocean, the disgrace which has beenaffixed to the banner of Methodism by the acts which have been brought out here, and not only here but before the public, to a greater or less extent, for several years past — I say that these things have made such an intpression upon my mind that I cannot think it possible that those who were responsible in any degree for them could accept work in our mission fields and then repeat again conduct of this char- acter. Believing this, I have seconded this resolution of Dr. Briggs. I believe this is the wisest, the kindest, the safest course (or us to pursue. It is impossible for us to declare that we have arrived at the very best solution ; oven after we have made it we should be modest in declaring it is the best possible solution at which we could arrive. Time will tell that. Time only can justify it, and the just- ification of the course which we will pursue to-night will lie largely in the hands of those whom we denominate our miaaionariea. Whether they go to Japan or remain in Canada, they will be held largely responsible by the Meth- odist Church for the vindication of the action of this Board. And more, it is in their power to vindicate their own character, to justify any degree of confidence which we, as a Board, may repose in them, and I have altogether mis- taken the character of these brethren if, when a trust is lud upon them of this character, whether it exactly meets with their approbation or not, they do not rise to the emer- gency and vindicate their own reputation, as well as that of the Church at large. Now, it is our duty to make it as easy as possible for them to accomplish this purpose as we may do. That is what I look upon as our duty as a Board. First, to open the path- way and then make that pathway as level as it is possible for us to make it. Give them every incentive in the way of kind words and confidence, if yon wish that word ; at the same time I consider we have given them as sharp a rebuke as it is in our power to give them, in the condem- nation which has been expressed, in the shame that has been printed on the faces of the members of this Board. Anyone who is resfionsible, or believes himself to be in any way responsible, for producing that cloud of shame, must read his own condemnation. If he cannot read it there, I do not know what lesson could be taught that would make him feel it. I feel it deeply. I have bwcn listening here to the words that our brethren have been uttering in honesty and kindness, and I havo had my soul stirred within me. I have thought that we roust do something now to put an end to these bickerings, and to put the Church in such an attitude Vx^foro the country that we can claim to lie the Church of th« Ijord Jesus Christ, and not an assembly of people who cannot maintain even the courtc>t know what I would do in Japan. Hut I do know that if any young man would play the game on me as Chairman ihat the gentleman out them did on Brother Cassidy, I would write him a letter, to say the least of it. Rkv. Dr. Hutiirrland— Htill, I think it ought to besaid in justice to the absent brother, that if we may plare any reliance upon his written communications and statementn to otbert, h« would aot accept the repneeotation o( hi* oondaot vhiek I of it. D». T. O. Wi It might be a v< in this instance, tremendous iuui thi result, not o (nlneas upon th result to our Oh efilMt upon the C hesitate, and we said that Brotb credited miHion do not underMtai our confidence ; our Executive I broad land, inti degraded missio a mark of este< employ him and to go and hoi Church. If the unjust and erroi been made upor I want to kno Caasidy ; and if true to whatevc takea this comn tion to give hir aa a loyal man, I am sure, do n which have gon could do. The cannot tell how this kind, — tbei of our Board, n him the kind ol long will that soon as the Ex< will give them, I think the res( beat thing. It grand work hei back to Japan brethien need doing work Church at bom confidence of these conditio proper solution Dr. Potts we should be is done to-nigh — and there resolution that that same fei so anxious tin would he wi entirely expre not be unani Executive taken in relai drawal of M also for the re The Ciiai that Mrs. Lai Dr. Potts confess, as a developed in feel pretty ni has had this Mrs. lArge o I had though our roisaionai that field, nearly as posi of the effect < for Dr. Brig{ a bare majoi borf t»Bight foi *r*B hrdirt of thia eniit in neh ^ni to the lix •idy endoraad iMt letter of til taking any deputation in round on that that ; he has |th pain ae well libility in oon- [rather tbought- lis amendment |her Kettleweil it as something ie the remark I see he did not I thing to play I fully accept attention to it. tlier Briggi or lind, of playing e. irsonal explana- of the remark I want to say bought that has > constrained me >wn mind, from of minds about ibout it. I had iiig that I would est of this mis- irother here. I i in a conferencn ny of my friends y much at heart, in a week, or a for Mr. Cassidy ' I am privileged ;a will i\>t take ly. I would bo ling of that kind a say regarding sloud which has sceived, perhaps, vork from us ns r remember lii.s I good and faith at great country id to me regnrt) nguage be used liation which be y, but also as a riiere are minor r is a true Chris sift it all down, ids, unintention 'xaggerat^d idea r has fallen. I confessional, in I, and I do ither Cawidy, 1 t it. ought to be said » may plare any and ttatementR stDt»tion o( hit j PROOBEDINOS RE JAPAHf AFPAIBa 185 oomlaat vliieh Ihm been given here to-night, nor one-half 01 itk D«. T. O. WauAii»~I said I would write him a letter. It might be a very kind one. We hesitate before we act in thia instance. It ia wise for us to hesitate. There are tremendoua iuuea iwaiting our action here to-day. I fear th( result, not of treachery, not of treason, not of unfaith- fulness upon the part of Brother Cassidy, but I fear the letult to our Church. Considering the intluenoes and the effect upon the Church at large, what are we to do 1 I say we heeitate, and we hesitate wisely and properly. It has been ■aid that Brother Cassidy can.iot be employed as a dis- credited missionary in Catiada, and do good work for us. I do not understand that we take a discredited missionary into our confidence ; that we employ 'nin\ under the direction of onr Executive Board, and that we send him all over our broad land, into all ou- Conferences ; we do not take r degraded missionary and treat liim in that wuy. But it is a mark of esteem which we pay to any man when we employ him and send him wherever he may be appointed to go and hold missionary meetings throughout our Ohurch. If there be a solitary man who can remove any unjust and erroneous and injurious impressinns which have been made upon our Church in connection with this thing, I want to know who could do it better than Brother Oaaaidy ; and if Brother Cassidy I am sure he will be true to whatever work is assigned him in our Church — takes thia commiasion which it is proposed, by this resolu- tion to give him, and works in harmony with the Church aa a loyal man, as he undoubtedly will, he can and hn will, I am sure, do more to remove the unfortunate impressions which have gone abroad than any member of this board could do. Then, if time removed ditliculties, — and we cannot tell how great the power of time is in a matter of thia kind,— there is the authority lodged in the Executive of our Board, men in whom we all have contidence, to give him the kind of work which opens for him to do. How long will that be 1 We cannot tell. Rut it will be as Boon as the Executive, acting on the best light the future will give them, can assign lu bini the work he may desire. I think the resolution moved by Brother Briggs is the very beat thing. It will give Brother Cassidy a chance to do a grand work here, and then if in the future he should go back to Japan he will do good work there. The Japanese brethien need not feel hurt, liecnuse they will know he is doing work for the Methodist Church at home, and the Church at home will be satisfied if be is kept in the full contidence of the Mission liuaril doing its work. With theae conditions Itefore us, this looks to me to be the proper solution of the ditticulty. Dr. Pott8 — It think it is of llio utmost importance that we should be entirely unaniinous, an a Boivnl, in whatever ia done to-night in relation to this case. If we are divided — and there is a considerable minority in relation to any resolution that is carried hero — we niny fairly assume that that same feeling will pervade our entire Church. I am ao anxious that we should be entirely unanimous that I would be willing to go for a resolution that would not entirely express my judgment rather than that we should not be unanimous. 1 hiippened to be a member of the Executive. I had to do with various steps that have been taken in relation to this matter. 1 voted for the with- drawal of Mrs. Ijargo from the mission tield, and I voted also for the retention of Mr. Cassidy in this country. Thk Chaikman — You voted for the recommendation that Mrs. I^arge tie withdrawn? Dr. Potts - That is what I meant. Now, 1 am free to confess, as a member of the Kxecutive, that what has been developed in this room, especially last night, has made me feel pretty much ashamed of the whole business. But it has had this effect on my mind, that 1 do not regard either Mr*, liarge or Mr. Cassidy as indiscreet to the extent that I had thought before I do not think that it would injure our missionary interests in .lapan if liotb were to return to that field. And yet I am so anxious that we should, as nearly aa possible, come to a unanimous conclusion, because of the effect of it upon the Church, that I would rather go for Dr. Briggs' amendment than carry the main motion liy a bare majority. Mr. Torrance has referred to a matter hflr« to-night. Of ooune, if we took an/ action towards ■ending Mr. OMaidy ImoIi to Japan, it le*ve« the ladiea* Society at perfect freedom to send Mn. Large by the first train that goes to that country, or the first ateamer. Bat I think the amendment to the amendment will aeoure the greatest unanimity, and perhaps that ia the beat thing to do. Mr. Robinson — I think we are now under very aerioua circumstances. Our missionary collectors are about going out ; the eyes of the country are on us. As I remarked to-day, Mr. Cassidy is looked upon as a disgraced missionary, and will be so looked upon if he is sent around the country attending missionary meetings. The country thinks there is too much machinery now ; that there is more machinery than there is oil to run it. We want to get the funds to keep it running. We are keeping at home a missionary from Japan that we have not proved anything against. If I am wrong I hope to be corrected. I know that the country will be disappointed, and that it will do the Missionary Hociety a very serious injury if we do not show the causa why Mr. Cassidy has been recalled, and then give him work going around the country here in Ontario. I do not know what effect it will have. Before I left home, I tried to find out the opinion of a few of the principal parties in London. The feeling was that they would not continue to sub- scribe to the missionary fund if things were not very materially altered, or reasons shown why things had been done that were done. We h.ive not been shown any cause that is worth anything why Mr. Cassidy won recalled. Why was Mrs. Large recalled? We do not know why it was. If it gets out over the country that Mr. Cassidy was kept at home so as to get Mrs. Large home, they will say, why was that the case 1 The CnAiKMAN— Did you not hear the testimony about the disagreement in the Mission ? Mr. Kobinsos— ^The testimony did not amount to any- tliing. I think the ladies who gave evidence last night were a credit to the country. They gave their evidence in a ladylike and kindly way ; there was not an unkind thing in it ; they did not condemn Mr. Cassidy in any respect — nothing that amounted to anything. There is not a minister in this room but could be condemned as much for his work running over eight years ; not a minister or a lay- man ; perhaps the layman might stand a little better chain e. 1 do not see why one man should be condemned more than another. We have had everything that could be picked up that referred to Mr. Cassidy, as to anything he liad done over eight years. Every little thing has been brought out here and magnified. Then, when it ia sifted down, there is nothing in it. I cannot go home and tell why Mr. Cassidy is kept at home. I do not know why we have been kept here so long for so very little. We have not done much, and now we are leaving the thing just where we found it. Mr. Cassidy has been recalled, and is loft at home here to go and do work where he is sent. There has been an immense amount of money spent on Mr. Cassidy to put bim in the position in which he is now. I suppose ten thousand or twelve thousand dollars, or more, has been spent upon him to do work in Japan. Why is this thrown awayl If there is a missionary needed in Japan, why don't we keep the men there that are able to do the work, without spending a lot more money on them ? Its looks as though we sent men out there to give them the loarniiii!, and then bring them back on furlough and pay them. The country feels that there are too many furloughs and holidays for missionaries ; there are three, four, five or six of them, perhaps, going around at once. Will you explain how T can go home to London and tell the people what has been done, and why it was done? T cannot understand it. The CiiAiiiMAN — If you would take somo of us along, we mi){ht help you. Mu. RoniNsoN — I will pay your fare if you will come along and explain it. Till! Chairman — I think I could explain it to any rea- sonable congregation. Mr. Hoiiinson — If you would make it as short as you did your visit to us in London when we were in trouble — about three minutes. Thi Cuairhan— It is a good thing to know bow to get out of trouble. IM OBNERAL BOABD or MnWIOlfa 1895. Ma. Cox— I will ocenpy yoar tima but » Tai7 few mill. ■Ua. 1 intend to vote for Dr. Briggt' aiiMndment. I would be aorry to do to if I thought it would ultimately prevent Mr. Caaaidy'a return to Japan. I would be lorry, on the other baud, if the main motion prevailed, to allow of hia ioi mediate return to Japan, because I do not believe, taking all the circuniitenoes into consideration, that that would be a wise decision to arrive at If Dr. Briggs' amendment prevails, it will give Mr. Cassiily an opportun- ity, in atteniting the missionary meetings that are now upon us, to do a great deal to heal the breach that has occurred in our Church. Mr. Cossidy and Dr. £by can do a great deal to remove the erroneous impreasions prevalent throughout .» the country. While that is being done it will gi«e the )% Executive an opportunity of ascertaining from Dr. Mac- if donald how it would atfect our interests in Japan if Mr. Cassidy should return. I hope that all difficulties, all objections to his return, will gradually disappear, as the bi-each here is healed up, and as the feeling in .Tapan be- comes reconcilable. I, therefore, intend to support it, and I hope Dr. Uriggs' amendment will prevail. I also hope that whichever motion prevails, it will be made entirely unaoinioua I think that the action cf the majority of this Board should be (he action of the whole Hoard, and if I hap|«n to be in the minority I will feel that 1 am bound by, and have a right to defend, the resolution that is carried, and that ail should feel in that way. I wish to say further, if that resolution prevails, I woul J feel, for one, that the Woman's Missionary Society were then at liberty to arrive at whatever decision they thought right with reference to the return of Mrs. lArge. I should not think they were under any further obligation, after we had passed that resiilution,. to be bound in any way by the action of the Joint Comin ttee that met some time ago. Uh. Krttlbwbll — I thought it would only be fair to request that if Mr. Uasiiidy is able to satisfy Mr. Huestis by a brief statement, that he should be permitted to do so. I do not know whether Mr. Cassidy can or not. I do not know whether he feels like speaking, but I do not think that we ought to take the vote without giving him an op- portunity to meet Mr. Huestis. Mb. HursTIs — I would ask alto, that if Mrs. Large desires voluntarily to make any statement here, looking in that direction, that she should have the privilege of doing so. Dr. Suthrrland — I have but very little to say ; indeed I had ho|ied that it w.iuld not be necessary for me to say anything at all on this particular question. But it does teem to me that if the returned missionaries desire peace in the Mission and in the Church, and are willing to do what they can to promote that peace, the best evidence that they could have given us of that disposition and desire would have been a ready and cheerful acquiescence in the decision of the Executive of the Board. I have l)een trying to remember if there has been anything done by the Execu- tive or the Board, or any position or attitude taken by them that has not been antagonized. And if there has been so much antagonism in the past I do not know on what to base the hope that there will be any less antagonism in tiie future. I do not mean to cay that a time may not cc-!iie when conditions will have so changed that it will be safe and dosirable that these same missionaries should return again to Japan ; but my own conviction is, that time it not yet I would like now, at we are getting towards the doting hourt of this session, or, at all events, of the Board's dealings with this Japan question, to put everything I have to lay in the inildett form I can. I will not affirm that Mr. Catsidy makes trouble, but by lomettrange fatality there it nearly alwayt trouble whore he it. It may be his misfortune, but that seems to be the fact of the case. There was no trouble in thia country concerning this Japan matter until after Mr. Catsidy came home. And nothing that I have yet heard in this diiKUMion, or in the evidence, or that I have heard through the country, changes in the slightest degree my own con- viction that all the way through Mr, Catsidy has been very near the storm oentre. The oTidenoe here, the docu- mentary evidence from Japan (and of course this Board will remember that I have heen unavoidably in close touch with tlie whole thing for yeant and perhapa atpeoti of it, or ineidmtkl bite of evidence, would touch my mind tlwl would not toueh the mindi of othari^ buruw thty were not in « poaition to andenitand thfin); I lay tlie oonviotion fron the documentary and other evidence ia thia, that it hat been the same in Japan at it haa been here. We havo all neen, while listening to the evidence and ditcustiont for the patt two dayt, how verv trivial have been the oautet of ettrangement and alienation among the mistionariea in Japan, and how thit oonttrma a ttatement made in my Review, that the cauiet of the ttrife and alienation appeared to me to be exceedingly tri- vial. If tomethingof griatmomenthad occurred in .iMpan, if tome oocurrer e had taken place there that we could tee would make strife anywhere, that would have been some excuse, if not a jusiihcat on ; but to think that such strife has taken place, that the Church has been greatly agitated, that this Board has to spend days of time and a consider- able amount of missionary money to settle quarrels origin- ating in things over which children should not have quar- relled — that, to my mind, is one of the strongest evidencet that it is not lafe that thete miisionariet tliould return to Japan at the present time. The patt out there hat been a time of strained relations, and there are at the pre- sent moment very strained relations at regardt tho-e tix missionaries who hu-e asked to be recalletl. I think it would be in the highest degree desirable that those six missionaries should be able to think over the situation and come to their decision without being touched by any influence from outside that might have any tendency to increase the difficulties. I do not think that those six missionaries will Kiid the solution of their case any easier if we send I ack, at the present time, the missionaries who are here now. I think, perhaps, that in the conversations about these troubles that we have lieen listening to for days, many members of the Board are forgetting, or only very dimly remembt'ring, a ^reat deal that came out in the documents printed in my fleview. Up to a certain period, I believe, Ur. Macdonald was rather expecting, and would not at all have objected to, the return of these missionaries to Japan. In more recent communications it is evidniit that a change has taken place ; for when he was asked by a member ot the Council why he now objected to the return of these migsionariet, ho said, " Because of the attitudo they have taken in Canada." I see no probability what- ever that, in the present state of affitirs, there will be, or can lie, harmonious and cordial cooperation between Dr. Macdonald and the missionaries if they return, I do not want this to be understood as implying that all the blaino is on their side, and no blame at all upon his side, but when we see that already the relations are far from cordial, I do not think that wo should do anything to make them still lest cordial. When the turbid waters have cleared and settled a little, the way may be opened without any risk to let these same missionaries return again to Japan. I think we all have felt, during the course of this investi- gation, that there ia not in the mind of anyone here any feeling of hardness, any lack of friendship, any lack of cordiality. It is simply a matter of judgment that under e>'«iing circumstances it is not expedient to do a certain thing. My own conviction is that it will not be in the interests of peace and harmonious working in Japan for these misMionaries to return at the present stage. But if we find in a short time, at ifidoed we may, that condiiions have greatly changed, that the tix missionaries in Japnn may have settled the matter with regard to thiir own position, the outlook may be very diflerent. Honack the missionaries now in this country. Now, I believe that the very best thing the missionaries can do juit now in the interette of the work here and there, I is simply to say, in words or by their actions, " Although j our opinion hat differed from yours in this matter, we willj accept heartily and cordi>tlly the decision you have come tol and we what Providence will open up in the ooune of I »-■-£». ;jL-if_ .L'^Hlii. FBOCEBDINQS JUT JTAFAN AlVACta m ■Bother Twr." I beliar* if that attitude is Uken the Ohuroh will be quieted. Tliia Board !■ perltaps not an un- fair reprMentative of the Church at lurg«. When thii Board met there were convictions, and feelings, and be- lief!, tliat have been very (greatly nioditted as tlin investi- gation lias proceeded and lU the documenitfry ovidrnce Ims come liefore you, and what has tak>-n place in tliis Board will take place throu|;hout the country, unless persistent efforts are made to prevent the Cliurch from being at peace in regard to this niatti-r. As lung as the pe )pl« are stirred up of course there will be trouble, bat if nil concerned will jnit set tliemiielves to quiet this agitation, to eay, '* We have come to conclusions after exhaustive examination, and these condusions we l)elieve to be right," the Church at larfte will acquiesce iu the decision. A certain nmouiit of deference should be paid lo public opinion, and liy that I Oieanjnet now Methoillst puhliu opinion ; but the tirKt con- •ideration in my tniiid is to do what we i)elievu is right, no matter what public opinion may clamor for. My own belief and conviction is that the course proposed in the amendment is the best at the present time. It may not be ideally the best, but it is the best under existing circum stances ; and I do hope and trust that this will be accepted by the Board and by the missionaries If it is, I feel coiiK- dent that l)efore a year has gone by we shall tind a very different state of feeling all over this country, and that our work will be advancing smoothly in nil its (le[iaitmenta. Dr. Potts — I would 1 ke to ask Dr. Sutherland a ques- tion. Do you think, by the passing of this amendment to the amendment, that it would act as a relief to the Woman's Missionary Society in relation to their side of the affair 1 Db. Suthbrlaxd — Perhaps that amendment had better be read again. (Amendment to the amendment read.) Dr. SuthbbLAND — I see the bearing of it now. I con only say that, so far as my judgment is concerned, the moment we return one or both of onr missionaries to the Japan (ield, the Woman's Missionary i^oeiety will be at perfect lilicrty to follow the same course with regard to their niis-iionariHS. Dr. Briogb — I take a different meaning. I tnko it that tbev ae free now, or when Ihey meet next week. TlIK Chairman — I think they would be free up to the range of that resolution. Mr. Oubney — 1 seconded that resolution in exact har- mony witii every word of it. I read nothing hetweun this lines, and it leaves it exactly as Dr. Sutherland interpreted it. When we send a missionary back and vary the mu- tract, if you call it such, with the Woman's Missionary Board, they are at liberty. TiiB Chaikma» — When we vary the contract so far as it is a contract. Dn. Sutherland — I think it is a pity this Board shnuld not settle the point instead of putting it on the Executive. If it is thought best, however, that this course should be taken, we will have to make the best of it. Mb. Aikinb — It was not my intention to have said any- thing upon this sulijeet, although I have opinions, and very strong opinions. These opinions have all been coulinned since I came to this Board. 1 have been acquainted with all this difficulty in Japan, so far as it is possible for a person to be acquainted with it from the coi respondeiice that has been brought before this Board. The Kxecutiyo were conscious of this fact, that there was a ditliculty iu Japan. That diiKculty has grown to such a size that the Question was, what could they do in order to remove tho ifficulty, in onler to quiet matters there ? Tht.y look, to my mind, the only course that appeared to them fi-asible. If that action is reversed in consequence of the circum- stances being diHerent, I am sure I will not feel sorry at all; but, at the same time, there is this difficulty. Wo have the six missionaries in Japan oji strike— I usethoterm in the ordinary sense — they may remain ; they may not re- main. Would it be prudent losend Dr. El>y nr Mr. Cnsvidy to that land under present circumstances 1 We do not know what action those missionaries may lake. My desire and my wish is that they may reconsider what they have done ftnd remain at their post, but we have no evidence of ihot. U it likely that it Mr. Cassidy or Dr. Eby were tent buck to-day to them, knowing the eloia relationtJiip thkt exiittd between these brethren, that they are likely to produee any good effeot upon tlieiii 1 It may be said, if Mr. Cauidy has seen when and how he has erred in the past, he would lie more guarded in the future. 1 do not see where the evidence of that is. The fact hits been established to-day that the agitation amongi't our people here was caused largely by the iiistrumeniHlity of those returned mission- aries and their lotters in the press ; our people were greatly exercised over them, and the letters that appeared, even in our own connexional organ, excited our people very much. Those letters were all on one side | they have been carried to f>ucli an extent that even the editor of the Ctiardian said he thought, under existing oircumstanoes, as tlitse lettsrs appeared on one side only, it was desirable the discussion hIiouM quit until the matter had been examined. Now, the matter Ims been examined, and I think we all come to this ennclusion, that what we have seen and heard here niiist satisfy us that there was a difficulty in Japan. That difficulty commenced in small trivial things, things that I am suipriKed at, and I am sure the public will be surprised when they come to the knowled^je of the facts, that our ininsionarieH and the lady misnionaries should not have exercised that coiiinion cense which, I presume, they possess, and si ttled their difficulties there. But they did not settle them. Now, inasmuch as the circunistanoes remain the same to diy as they were weeks and months ago, is it (lesiralilrt, can any per-on believe that it is desir- able, that these inisMonnries should returnt If Mr. Cassidy feels ihnt h" has done wrong he can show by ihe oour^e that he will pursue that he is prepared to make any amrnds be can ; if he is prepared to xatisfy our people that so far as this Board is concerned thev have not done him an injustice in deeming it prudent that he should not return at tho present time. If by .Mr. Cassidy's return these difficulties would be settled, I would say, )>y all means return ; but I do not believe thiy will, especially after llie statetiient made by the Rev. Dr. Cochran, a man in whom we all have contidence. His conviction is, that under existing clicumstaiioes it would he a mistake that Mr. ('assdy fchoulil relurii there, Now, v/ould we be jiistiHed, under these circumstances, to sllow Mr. Cossidy to return! My own conviction is it would be a ii.i-take. I quite agree with what Dr. Potts says. I think that any action taken by this lliiard, if it is unanimous, or nearly unani- tnouH, will carry tiie Church with it ; but I feel satisUed now that after the action taken in the otiiei; matter with reference to these six missionaries, this Board, united to a man, can resolve so and so, and t'at is going to satisfy our poople that after a thorough investigation they have come to this concliiKioii, and that it must be conect. If we tiikn the same course with reference to this it will carry conviction to our people and the constituency outside ; but whether it does nr not, I think we are bound to take it I think we are all honest ; our convictions may lie wrong, our judgniont may bu at fault, but we desire to do what is right. My decision will be to vote for the amendment of Dr. Briggs. Mn. UiiisiioLM— I do not intend to take up the time of tho cimmiilee at all, although I have made quite extensive notes. I simply «ish to say that I do not wish to give a silent vote on this question. I came here without any knowledge of the facts of tho case, and I have listened very ntiontivelv to all that has been said and read on this question, and I reached this conclusion : That the Execu- tive were fully justitled in the course they took in the recall of our missionary, Brother Cassidy. The ground upon which they based their resolution for recall remains just exactly the same as it did then, and I sen no other course before me but to vote for the amendment to the amendment in presented by Dr, Briggs. I feel Just as the rest of the brethren do about it, that the circumstances that brought about this state of nfFairs were very trivial indeed in thomsel-es ; yet limy are here, and they have so culmin- ated AS to make necessary tho action of the Executive; and while they do remain I am under the impression that that action of the Executive should be upheld. Mr. Donlv— I wish to say but a very few words. I have had an experience in this Missionary Board of nearly m quarter of a century, a member of the Executive Oommitte* 188 OBNBRAL BOABD Of MlflglOMa 18W for aiMMt twwitjr ytmn. I wm not awwr* thai o«r mii- ■iea*riM in J*pM> had any oauw of grievknoe raeh u wh wportw l when th«M miuioDMriM returned. I oame ap to thta BoMd with a foil determination to lee that this waa inveatigated. It haa been thoroughly investigated I bolieve. I hare made up my mind that it ii not in tho intereat o( the Minionary Society, or of our Cburuh and the work in hand, that theae miaaionaries should be returned. I think it would be a grent mistake. I have had the most kindly feelings towards the brother for the number of years that I have known him. F love him sincerely, and I would not for a moment think of giving a vote that would he detri- mental to his interests ; but the interests of the Church are paramount just now, and I do not think we would be dis- charging our duty, with the light that we have, in return- ing Mr. Cassidy at the present time, or the other brother. I just wanted to say that from my knowledge of what has been done, and correspondence which I have listened to from year to year, for all the yenrs that 1 have been con- nected w?th the Missionary Executive, I am satisfled that tho most kindly relations existed between the authorities in Canada and tlie missionaries on the field, and the purpose always was to do the very Iwst they could ; and nothing has come out of the investigation to make me change my opinions as to that. I am of the same mind to-night that the best has been done. I endorse what the Executive has done during the past year since the General Conference, and I shall vote for the amendment to the amendment. Mr. Nixon— I think I ought to be permitted to say Bometliing, as T was the mover of the original resolution. I would like to say in the first place that we laymen — I speak for myself, but I think I might bring in the rest uf the laymen — that we laymen take as deep an intereat in the missionary cause of the Methodist Church as the ministers do, notwithstanding that one of us happens to be a lawyer. I have been a member of this Church for more than fifty years. Although a layman, I have done some little plat- form work in connection with the Methodist Missionary Society, and it is n cause, above all other causes of our Church, that I love and that lies very near to my heart. When I came here I was entirely untrammelled in my own mind as to how I would vote on the question. As the hours went by, until late this afternoon, I felt that J must and would support Brother Cassidy going back to Japan ; but at the conclusion of Brother Cassidy's remarks I found that he was apparently, according to his own confession, in entire sympathy with some document which had been issued from the press, and which had been sent around to certain of the Conferences of our Church. When I heard that I came to the conclusion that T could not support the sending back of Brother Cassidy to Japan. That changed my views; but those views have been strengthened by some remarks or some answers to questions which were brought out by Mr. AikiiiB whnn he was interrogating Dr. Cochran. I had written down myself one of the questions which Mr. Aikins asked, intending raywlf to a are several others of iis here that have come to the same con- clusion. Perhaps we all want tact sometimes, when we get up to speak ; hut I thought two or three times that the brother did not show the wisdom which he might have shown even on his own side, and speaking in hhi own Viehalf. And when that is the oaae in counMtion with a BUM ipMkking for bliuMl^ how maeh more IM7 h« thov » wMt of taet whan b« to nol ■pwking ia that ( Now, 70a will reoMubwr, I atkod to hava tht origiaal 1 lotion withdrawn, and have Dr. Brims' aoMndaimit to kha amendoMat rabatituted tharator. ftharafoM faal nyaall entireW free^ and as I am in entire aoonid with the raaola- tion offered by Dr. Briggs I purpose to vote tor it Kiv. Dr. Tovbll — From the beginning of our session to the present we have acted with the utmost courtesy and kindness towards the brethren, and I should be very sorry indeed if we would separate to-night without the Chair giving an opportunity to Mr. Osisidy, it he desires it, to make a statement which shall be pertinent to the request that came from the east, from Mr. Hueitis. Tub Chairman — If it is the desire of the Board, of course Brother Cassidy may speak if he wishes. Mr. Caihidv — I do not speak, Mr. Chairman, as having any bearing on this question. I hope that will not be thought of for a moment. I thought that this question would be decided first, and certainly what I have to say I do not intend shall have any bearing on it. It it is all the same I would just as soon speak afterwards. TiiR Chairman — If you do not intend to apeak with reference to the matter now before the Board in any shape, whatever else you may have to say we will take up under another question. Ma Cabsidt — What I wished to speak of was simply an item in connection with my address to-day, in going over the part affecting myself and my relation to the agents of the other Society. There was one point which I did not answer, which was called out by Brother Huestis, and, as I said before, I preferred to just leave it without any further explanation. All I request this evening is that I may Know whether that particular part is to go to tbe public press or not. If it is to go to the public press, I thought I ought to put in a further explanation in tho way of docu- ments, letters and so forth, on the other side. I would much prefer that it be dropped out of the public reports. The Chairman— We could take that up subsequently. Then, are you ready for the question 1 Mr. Torrancr — Mr. Cassidy has had the opportunity of saying something, and has declined ; now I think Mrs. Large should have the same opportunity. Mr. Cassidy — I entirely misunderstood the question. I thought it was the question raised to-day by Brother Hvwstis. Tub Chairman— If Brother Cassidy has anything to say, we will give him a chance. Mrs. Larok — Mr. Huestis asked the question. I want to say this : When I shook hands with Mr. Cassidy this morning, I did not know that anybody was watching. I did not know that anybody observed it. I shook bunds with Mr. Casaidy because I felt that I ought to shake hands with him, and when I did it the past with me was forgotten. Mr. Cassidy— I beg the pardon of the Chair for think- ing of another question altogether, a question raised by Brother Huestis, and not the one to which he referred just now. It was not that I declined to say anything on this line. I have not been so much delighted and pleased for n long time as I was when I received a warm hearty shake of the hand from Mrs. Large to-day, and had repeated the hand shaking with all the otherb. I have had no ill friend- ship with any of the others, so that I felt very thankful and happy indeed when that took place. Thr Chairman — The motion is now before you. Will you have the motions all read by the Secretary t (Secretary reads the original motion, the amendment, and the amendment to the amendment.) Dr. Tovrll — I would like to have an opportunity of voting on Mr. Langford's amendment, if I could reach it. I do not want to vote against that. I claim that it is hardly fair to make it impossible to vote on it. Is it possible, in oasd Dr. Briggs' amendment to the amendment should be lost, to bring in another amendment to the amendment 1 Mr. Ciiisuolm- I rise to a point of order. Dr. Tovbll— I will admit that myself ; I am only anxious to get to tbe bridge of my own personal oonviotions, and will stand there. Mr. Birrs— It struck me that tliere is a considerable afTMiBeat betwMU the ameadiiMBt to tha anandniMit mmI liMnt to th* fad myMlf ^h tb* rMolu- it. jturMMion to looartMjr uid I be varyiorrjr lit the Gheir I deeirea it, to I tlie reqneat Ihe Bo»rd, of Lan, aa having It will not be thii queation have to lay I |If it ia all the (o apeak with in any aliape, [take up under waa simply an , in going over the agenta of hioh I did not ^uestis, and, m out any further ia that I may ;o to the public 188, I thought I 10 way of doou- ■ide. I would iblic reports, > subsequently. opportunity of r I think Mrs. .he question. I ay by Brother anything to say, estion. I want r. Cassidy this ts watching. I I shook hands i to shake hands e waa forgotten. !?hair for think- tioii raised Viy he referred just .nything on this lid pleased fur ii hearty shake of ad repeated the lad no ill friend- ; very thankful fore you. Will taryl he amendment, opportunity of '. could reach it. ilaini that it is ;. Ts it poasibin, tindnient should ;he amendment 1 r. If ; I am only Mial oonviotions, I a considerable aaiwdnimt «mI PftOOIBDINOS HE JAPAN AfrAllUl^ IM dw Mamdnwat. Wnold it not be poaaibia, after a few Mnutaa looking over the two, to get them blended 1 Dn. 8o™««UAirD— Would it be pnMtioable, by the vnanimona consent of the Board, to let that amendment to tha amendment be taken as the original motion, and the other one taken aa th« amendment 1 That would give Dr. Tovell and others who wished it an opportunity to record their vote on that ono that he wants to reach. Ma. Brtts — If this Board so orders, it could be done. Th« CliAlRMAN~The Board can do almost anything as to the order of its business, but that is entirely out of order. Mr. Kbttlrwrm,— Would it l)e out of order for Mr. Tovell to give notice that if the amendment to the amend- ment and the amendment slioutd lie got out of the way that he would move an amemlnient in a certain form 1 Mb. Ouisholm— I rise to a point of order, whether it is in order to raise all these (|uestions after we commence U> take a vote t Db. Ryokxam— I would like to ask this question ; If the amendment to the amendment should carry, but not unananimously, would it be go put again aa to enable us to make it unanimous J Th« Chaibman The motion is upon the amendment to the amendment. (The voto was then taken, and stood twenty for and seven against.) Mb. Lanofobd — Can I introduce ii motion here 1 T move that the vote just pussecl lie made unanimous. Mb. Lahblt — I am exceedingly anxious, as the seconder of the other motion, that it should be made unanimous, I therefore second that motion. Dr. Tovkll— May I lie allowed just to add that one remark mode by Mr, Cox very greatly inHueiiced my mind to .thoroughly favor Dr. Briggs' nniendment, namely, that he would be very 8t>rry to think that iM r. Cassidy should not be returned to .fapan ; his hope and expectation was for bis return, and with that in his mind he would sustain that resolution. That is how I understood Mr. Cox, Mb. Cox — I Sfiid I would Ixs sorry if by Dr, Briggs' resolution prevailing it would ultimately prevent Mr. Cassidy's return to Japan, J said I felt it would be a mistaJfe that he should return now. Db. Tovkll Then I will sustain this motion. The Chairman -It is moved that the motion lie made unanimous. Mb. Robinsok -No, T am voting against it. Tub Chairman It fails to !>;• made unanimous by the vote of Brother Uohinson of Ixindon, On motion the committee rose. The Board adjourned at 11,30 p.m. until fcu])ied by routine business. On Thursday afternoon at three o'clock the Board resolved into Committee of thi^ Whole, and it was agreeil that Dr. Eby Im> mow heard. Dr. Eby — Mr, Chairman, the words that I shall use my- self in simply sttiting my ease, that is my position, will be aa few as (Missible, The thing that perhaps will first strike the brethnin is surprise that the rcailinj; of the document seemed so overwhelming to me, I want U> say that the overwhelming part of it \vi\m not simply the things that were said aliout me, the efl'eet upon me as having touched my coiisciousness, as having given real cause for these things ; but the overwhelming thought was the sur- prise, the revelation of a great many things which came to roe that I did not know Is-fore, every one of which, how- ever, is valuable to me in enabling me to make myself better known amongst the brethren in this country fi-om whom I have been separattti for so numy years. The first overwhelming idea that came to me wivs that a great officer of a great Church should take such a course as is indicated in this document, so unstatesmanlike, so much like a pet- tifogger, rather than have a quiet, full investigation aa we desired. The next is the combination that seemed to be got together in order to do Mr. Cassidy ond myself and tii« men in Jiqpui an injoatioe. The aim doea not aaam to be to obtain light, but to aocomplish a purpoa& One strange part of ih» oombinfttion to me was that of Dr. Sutherland and Mrs. Large, and the whole preaentation of the case from the standpoint of the troubles with the women. I hod distinctly understood that my attitude was not held to have been blameworthy in the eyes of Dr. Sutherland and the Board. At different times Dr. Sutherland indi- cated to me that my attitude to the women was con- ciliatory. Db. Suthbblaiid — I beg your pardon. I never made such a statement to you on any occasion. Dr. Eby — I wish to have it on record, I am prepared to stand by what I am saying. Du. Sutherland — Then let ray remark go on reoord also. Dr. Eby — In addition to that, Dr. Sutherland has stated strongly in my hearing, and in the presence of others, that while my letters seemed to be those of a gentleman, in his opinion Mrs. Large ought not to remain in Japan for one month. And here we have the combination of the two ditlicultius. Db. Suthebland — You never hod those two statements in that combination. What I said about Mrs. Large to the Secretory of her own Society was, that I felt every consideration for her health, and even her life, demanded that she be relieved from the Japan work, Db. Ehy — I will return to all this — everything that is disputed. The next thing that overwhelmed me was the fact that if this thing should l)e published and get amongst our people it would have to be controverted, and the result of it would-be disastrous to the income of the Society. I will leave all minor matters to'oly unin- jured, and the Council deo'ded to rebuild at onct<, so far as the funds on hand would go. This wan dip di>cision, ''.arato action from what had been before, and then in addition to tli it, in order to complete the Tabernacle, thero arose the niH'i's.>(ity for still more ntoney. This did not seem to be all, for tho Council, after getting all that, still wante— What did not ? Db. Ebv— What was done lK»fore. Db. Sctobklasd — Tho Exwutive agrpeeuping I Db. SrTHKRLASD— Ye.s. Dr. Ebv— That is just what I want t^t got at. To sue what the thing moans, ;o In- able to got at it. Tlio general impression seemed to Im" to hIuiw the liistory of the affair and the result of it as my Nclu-ine, and the terrible financial drain of it. Now, we wid just take that meaning ; that throws light on it. The Ciiaikkan — Is not that the plain Kiiglish of it I Dr. Ebv -I am trying to g.-t at this, and you will kw> the result of it ; that is the iniprt'ssion that tliis should not lie recouped in \vli((l<' or in p:irt, and so on. What I want to inut the amount being granted. We wont on. The cablegram did not come. 1 received letters from home congratulating mo on tho fact that so small an amount waa actually required in order to complete the Work. We went on and completed the work, and expected that thia would be recouped very largely from the dona- tiona that would come into the Mission Kooms. That was, of course, accepted ; it was a part of the condition. Now, what I want to emphasize is thia, that the Taber- nacle was rebuilt with that 2,670 yen from the Miasion Board, and we never asked for another cent in addition to that. The recouping had gone on for six months. Dii. 8i;tiikrland — Nobody affirms you did ask for any moie. Dr. Ebv — There is an affirmation in that paragraph, that anylwby reading would imagine that after the ocCs of the Council — all tliat first paragraph had been acted upon — ther e came this second demand for 2,670 yen. I have asked my friends to toll me what that meant, and they have told me that is what it conveys to their minds, and I wish to nay that impression is conveyed by these misplace- raento. You have the act of that Council put in two differ- ent places, where it looks accumulative ; it is not actually said, but it is so placed oh to make everybody reading that paragraph feel that after the first act of the Council was exhausted, that then upon that thero came another demand for 260 yen, and then upon the top of that there was want'd still something more. Now, I think anybody reading this paper would take that impression. Dr. Si'TIIkrlanu — I submit, Mr. President, that nobody could take that meaning from it unless he were determined at the start to take that meaning out of it Here are cases wide apart, one in July and the other in December, and they are not the same at all. Dr. Ebv — I do not say they ore. I put these wide a^mrt. I say that this in July is the same as that in tho paragraph Iwtore. In certain letters from tlie Executive the action of tho Council was endorsed, but the action of the Council is what is down below. You pass your pencil, please, around the paragra|>h from " at a meeting " down to where you have '1890" ; just pass your pencil around that pi»ragra|)h — those three small paragraphs— and pass them away up to tho top, and bring thom into the action of that Council, and have nothing following there, ond you will find that an entirely different impression is conveyed ; that there is aljsolutely nothin'/, so far as that is concerned, to which any blame is to be attached, and that the placing of that action of the Council in two different places, one following after tho other, conveys tho impression— streng- thens the impre-ssion that has been convryed to the minds of many — thot after oiio plan has boon agreed to, then, on top of that, thero comes more in order to accomplish the whole. Now, the fact is that we asked tho Executive of tho Mis-ionary Society for not one more cent after that 2.670 yon were received. For all tho rest after that, evorything that I expended after thot— although some] expenses were incuri'ed more than thero waa money tol meet — I raised the money, and they were paid before lonj in every caae. Da. Sanaau but at thia point no auoh alatemei affrm that no au atut/)ment, and tl Mb. Swahk — make hia stateme wardal Let him Dr. Ebv— I w the building of I a great hole, and money in it, exp< and doing it in make a compariac and the buildii<|j the building of aidered in the Co of the Executive earli.'^r than that rather we were a 14,000 yen. Tl: Sutherland comei another lot of la direction. Dr. Siithbrla Dr. Eby 1 I met the extent of 14,1 Dr. Ebv— It w Japan. Dh. SUTHERLAI Dh. Eby— Y'ea Japan you did no not brought tho had authority to circumstances, an in Japan ut all time, and it waa i of the Executive Dr. Uutiierla £laoe at our Exec •r. Eby have goj that time to Car mation getting when I reached right then and tl the others got it. Dr. Ebv— In came to Japan, what wo aaked and Dr. Hutherlii they do that i cil, and the bn about it, and it All the informat know, came thro a sort of private the building of out that it was contract, and ui Mr. liiraiwa. that Mr. Hiruij exact limits, anj point out the cl contractor withiT times as I possel ning it was not f earthquake shoJ shaken down ail get an architecd and work it inl particular. All building the Ta reault is that stood unshakoil Now I will leav •The ution at L * Tbe Oencrftl SeoretJ I MMon Hall In I'ok.vl ICounoM b* •uthori» |dt«, ant to Mortd la IpMWMHjrtoOr. I' pboohdinqb jut JA«AM Aft aiba 101 Im» vUflh k DOMUagmn ed Ml uMww a oabia reply )k place : You abernaole wai e had leaked s in good oon- rertttin amount \d rai«ed »ome the Doard, we oumplete the mediately we g the whi>le of the rest of ui .here woulil be grnnted. We received letters lat 80 small an complete the and expected Irom the dona- Koomx. That the cunditiou. hat the Taber- om the Mission t in addition tu lontlis. did ask for any that paragraph, ifter the acts of >pen acted upon rO yen. I have neant, and they eir minds, and I ' these mispluce- put in two diffier- it Ih not actually tfrybody rfoding :t of the Council re came another top of that there I think anybody ision. lent, that noboraiM.Ain>— I aai lorry to intorrnnt Dr. Ebjr, bat at thi» point let u nail this one thing. I affirm that no luoh ttatementa are made here oa Dr. Eby sayi, I affrm that no such impivssion la conveyed by this printed ■tut/>ment, and that he ia aimply inventing impression*. Mb. Swaxn — Would it not be better to let Dr. Eby make his statement, and then let any replies oome in after- wards t Let him go right straight on. Db. Ebv — I would just like to state also with regard to the building of that TalwrruMle, that it has been colled a great hole, and I have been blamed for putting a lot of money in it, expending a great deal of money in the plant, and doing it in a very unwise way. I want to simply make a comparison between the building of that Tabernacle and the building of the Azabu church. We went on in the building of the Tnbernacle, had our plan well con- •idered in the Council, and sent home, until at a meeting of the Executive in Toronto, in the summer of 1890, or earli.^r than that, the sum of 14,000 yen was granted, or rather we were allowed to go on and build to the extent of 14,000 yen. This was never communicated to us. Dr. Sutherland comes to the ground, and with liis help we buy another lot of land, and begin to do the work under his direction. Dr. Sutherland — Will you tell us what year that was. Dr. Eby 1 I mean the time that it was agreed to go on to the extent of 14,000 ^enl Dr. Ebv — It was a meeting shortly before you left for Japan. Dk. Sutiikrland— That would be in the spring of 1889. Dh. Eby — Yes. Just before you left. When I reached Japan you did not seem to know anything about it ; had not brought the information, but simply told us that you had authority to look over the situation and act under the oircuuistances, and it would never have been known to us in Japan at all if I had not been in Canada at the time, and it was especially made known to me by the action of the Executive in legard to my coming. Dr. Hutiikhland— Allow me to say this action took place at our Executive in the spring of 1889. How could Dr. Eby have got information when he came right on at that time to Canada t There was no possibility of infor- mation getting to him. If he had been in the country when I reached Japan ho would have got the information right then and there ; but he was out of the country. But the others got it. Dr. Eby — In reply to that I wish to say that when I came to Japan, 1 said the Executive had allowed us to do what we asked for, to go on to the extent of 14,000 yen, and Dr. Sutherland looked up surprised and said, " Did they do that 1 " I brought it up at the time in our Coun- cil, and the brethren said they did not know anything about it, and it was never coniuiunicated to us afterwards. All the information that the Council ever hud, so far as I know, came through me, and because it was through me in a sort of private way, they never acted upon it.* Now, in the building of the Azabu church, I would simply point out that it was built on business principles, according to contract, and under the direction of Dr. Macdonald and Mr. Iliraiwa. I was twitted at times by Dr. Macdonald that Mr. Hiraiwa was able to keep his accounts within exact limits, and the church went up. Now, I want to point out the church in Azabu was built by a Japanese contractor without the aid of an architect, and I saw at times as I passetl by that church that from the very begin- ning it was not safe, ho that when the time came that an earthquake shiMik the whole city, the Azabu <:huroh was shaken down and hiul to bo rebuilt. I took the trouble to get an architect for my plans. I hiui a tnan to get material and work it in such a way as to make it safe in every particular. All the extra expense that we wore put to in building the Talxirnacle I was able to raise myself, and the result is that when the earthquake came, my Tabernacle stood unshaken us the monument of my financial folly. Now I will leove that branch. This may not lie interesting "The Ktinn o( th< Kivrutivt Commiltce, Mty lit, 1S!iO, wu a< tollowi : " TIk Ooierkl Secretary •utmilttnl I'leni and eatiiuetei cf llie pro)ioa»l Ontnl J MlMlon Hall m lokvo, which were approved, aiiit it waa nrilcrehe liiilldinit, the whole coat, Including Irile, not to ttortd 14,000 ytn." Thiiutionww communicated by the Secrttwy IpsnoMll^ to Dr. Uaodaaild, nad Iht bulUUiig wm proceeded wlUi uootdlocly. to •vwybody, bat I rmlly woaM like to have the privilage of givi^l vnat 1 hnva in a quiet house. fin. Obhhoui— It ia the eonvenation out in the other rootn that ia causing the interruption. Dr Ebv — The next point that 1 refer to ia my relation* with Dr. Macdonald. 1 agree with almost everything that has been said to the credit of Dr. Macdonald, as everybody here knows. There are just two or three things in which we have not exactly seen eye to eye. I have held that hi* medical income was the profierty of the Board, and not his own. It was money earned in time paid for by the Board. Other physicians in Japan who earn money m the same way hand the money into the coiTers of the Board, and they are dispensei! by the regular Board authorities. Dr. Maolonald positively refused to earn money for the Board. Of course, as the Board agreed and allowed Dr. Macdonald to spend it himself, in his own way, we had nothing to do but ao(|uie8ce ; at the same time, 1 have had my doubts as to the wisdom of it, for reasons that it is not necessary for me here to dwell on. In the second place, I think that Dr. .Macdonald, as head of the Mission, should have been a spiritual, harmonizing point of contact, I have often said to him, both in our Council meetings and privately, that if we could only got him in prayer meeting, and know each other better in the light of spiritual intercourse, that I be- lieved all our ditHcultics would completely disappear ; and I reineml)er once in speaking of it with Mr. Whittington, who was unable, in a great mivny points, to see eye to eye with me, that he spoke very strongly and said it was what he desired above all things also. Dr. Macdonald said there was no need of our having prayer meetings He did not want to have any prayer meetings for himself, and we ought to be ashamed of wanting them for ourselves. In this we dilTcred materially. Ths Chairman — You allege that Dr. Macdonald said that to you t Dr. Eby — Yes, and that we never had a prayer meeting under Dr. Macdonald's direction from the beginning to the end, so far as I know, either amongst ourselves or with the women, although I thought that that was one of the first things we ought to have. Dr. Bricios — Dr. Macdonald said something about being ashamed to hold a prayer meeting t Dr. Eov — That we ought to be ashamed to need a prayer meeting for ourselves ; that we did not need to have a prayer meeting. We hud our other meetings in the Japan work, and our private prayers, I presume, and there was no need of a prayer meeting. Dr. Sutherland — A separate prayer meeting for the missionaries. TiiK Chairman — Brother Eby alleges that, and unless it is refuted now, or at some time, it must go for what it is worth. Mr. Ciiisiiolm — Do T understand that Dr. Macdonald was opposetl to the missionaries holding a prayer meeting 1 Dr. Ehv — What I say is, he did not do it. We had our little prayer meetings independently, but it had to be with- out him always. Mr. Ciiisholm — But did he say that you ought to be ashametl to netnl a prayer meetingi Dr. Eby — When Mr. Whittington spoke to him— I do not know, of course, whether Mr. Whittington would remember this, but I remember distinctly — he said, you ought not to need a proyer meeting. AIk. Lauuly — Did Dr. Eby heor this from Dr. Mac- donald himself) Dr. Ebv— I heard him say it himself. I heard an ex- pression that conveyed an impression to my mind ; "You ought not to need a prayer meeting " Mil. Lamhly — All our troubles in Japan have been from impressions taken from things said, or looks, or things of that kind. I think you ouglit to be very careful of the words used by Dr. Macdonald if he is quoted six or seven thousand miles away. Mr. Nixon- Do I understand the words were, "ought not to need a prayer meeting?" Dr. Ebv— I think those words do not omount to much. I do not want to convey the impression that he actually saic* you ought to be ashamed of it. As near as I can remember, as to the impression made on my mind and IH QBMBftAL BOABD OF MtSSlOltB, IMf. ■-'^i rHwiniiig tkrougfa *ll th«M ymn, th« word* w«n« tiMM : "You ought not U> need n prayer meeting." Mh. Lahhlt You uaecl the woni "Mhuned." Dk. Ebv- Then I will uk« tluit word " HHhamed " liook, but it ooiiveyed to my iiiinil tlmt iden, nnd the Nimple fact in we never have had n prayer meeting. Dh. Hutiimhland — Tliiit Hrntenon in tli« nrticlii quoted in my Review frr. Ehy Nayx in the matter. We will gain all the information we can from other parties liefore we get through. Dr. Eiiv The next point 1 hold is that no man can Iw full of two things at the same time. He was full of medical and financial affairs, and his medical reading and practice was no substitute for knowledge of evangelistic ■oience and evangelistic work, which we felt, and I especi- ally felt, was so much netxied in Japan, especially in the leader-- not in the individual. Everything that is in the Review goes to show that as an individual missionary, and as a man of generous influence, there is nothing whatever against the medical practice, so far as that goes, directly or indirectly ; hut what I refer to is the evangelist, with force and fire and leadership, as an officer, to leiul the force on to acomiplish some great purpose : Tlie task of leading a band of men whose only object was the salvation of the people and the Christianization of Ja)>an. Then the next point is, I And Dr. Miicdonald exceed- ingly sensitive n« to criticism. It seemeil as though he never could liy any means make a misUtke or go Isick from a position, and what I did here in Canatia, at the legisla- tion of IK8(>, Neenu'il to give him greAt offence. I dividinl the utTice of the leader of the Chainnan — into three, so that the Chaimian, if he so willed U, could have the assist- ance of one of the other brethren to do a certain part of his work. Tlnit is if he, for instance, were not able to come from Tokyo, he could have another a]>|iointed as evangelistic sujierintendeut to work with him and under him. This he seemed to regard as an effort to take some- thing from him. Remarks that 1 let fall, whether at the Mission Board or under other circumstances, seemed to have lieen reportefore my first furlough, when I was in great trouble Ui find work to expend all the strength that I had. I came home detennined that I would not go liack unless some arrangements could be made whereby each man would have distinct work, and have full worK in some way, and that was why this resolu- tion was put in, that the Council might place each man in some |>articular place, and give him full work to do. But there 1 was in the city of Tokyo, and each of the brethren hod his plitce and his position, and I was left without. When I was in this oiuntry on that furlough I talkinl of going to Euro{H>, and the brethren s that the brethren wanted mo Imck in Japan to expend my strength in pii'uching all over the work. When I got Imck and found that Dr. Macdonald was not going to give that priu-tical outcome to the reipiest in the letter. Dr. Cochran and I were ap|>ointe do, either have the op[Hirtunity of full work as an e\ni\ gelistic man, or have that central place where I c if the first could have Ixjen carried out. But when Dr. Maciionald said, "I have no need of an evangelistic su})erint«?ndent for the work in Tokyo," I was left strande I so far OH the work wiut concerned, excepting as I might i be invited to churches here and there, which would not accomplish ono-hundredth part of the work that Cod hud given nio to do amongst that people. And then it was | that I felt that this Central Mission nmst lie mode a 8UcceH.s. It must go. And then there ojicned up also liefore me the I possibilities of accomplishing something through the Self- 1 support Band, and so we went on with our plans, and wej talkpurt Bii what I wish to now that 1 wai with the (.Jouiii the Executive or the Hoard, I whole matter ii exitutly ill iiccm t'ounoii, whi(di of the Itoard. sibility. I w(ii Dr. John A. W write ti nil) ain that kiiiil of tl cuiiiinuniiMtioii Bunoil fomiu- Dr. Macdnnuld hrnn to do ho, ot cordial ; and ted mo liack in ig all over the Ur, Macdonald le to the requeHt linted a commit irniur idea of a md the (Jouncil t lie asked for , that we might Dr. Macdonald the chair, ami I iu< longing fur, I the Tabernacle description, and ng that kind of Ix'rnacle and tlii' gh it had gut to * there was an do that T could felt I ought 111 nrk OH an e\nii 3 where I could in the centre nf come in up i" At UR in goiii;: iole thing di-ii|i 9Ut. But wlll'll an evangeliHtic van left strande I ting as I might c, which would n work that Ood And then it wiis le motle a guccotN. 80 liefore me tlie | .hrough the Self- lur plans, and wej J 1 do not think | into a plan that ought up in that lent. But whei hape, put befor e Boani took th( and I worked oi >g thftt anyt PROCEBDINUS HX JAPAM IM Uwt WM ipMUl, iwyomi what the BtNtrd ga»«. tl,«y woulil hftVB no flnanuiul respoiMibility for, hut voluntary ountri- butions would cover every ex|MMitii huchiihh ii|iiiii llicmi lines. And then here coimw in i.lie Self nnp|Hirt liuxj. I am willing and anximm, at tlm proper lime, to hIihw tlmt the rielf-«up|>ort Band's idea wan not vixionary or unwise, hut what I wish to |)oint out is this, lioeause this is a puint now ♦hat 1 want to gtit at : It wiis started in consultation with the Council. We presenUsI it liefore the ll.iaiil or the KxeeulivH (.'oiiiiniltee, and tlie Kxeeulive (Juiuiiilttee or the lliianl, I uaiiimt recall nnw exactly wlncli, timk the whole matter into eonsiilbration, and they «ave an answer nxitutly ill aceunlance with my wislicH and llm desire of the ('ounail, whii^li was that it sliould have the iiiiiinl sn|ipc)rt of the lliiiird. The Koard sliould have no linaiicial res|Hm ■ibility. I would have an ojipiirtuiiity of givinji it a trial. Dr. John A. WilliamH was apiHiiiit^-d as corresiiii'ideiit to write t;i me anil to help me in the selectiiin of men and that kind of thing, and I received a very kindlv, lordial conimunlo.itioii fniiu him to the eOect that while the Board would not uiiderUke this work, or h.i\e luiy liiiaii- cial responsiliility ooniiecti'd with it, > et they would give it their moral support, and helji me as far as tliey eoiild liy the Ciirrespoiidence of the (ieiieiiil .Seiiretary. Now, that was all that 1 wished, and surely, when an iindertikiiiK of that kind was starled in thai way, with the eunsent uf the Council, with Ihe c.iiisent of the Hoard, with the endorsatiiin, to a certain extent, of the Hoard, it ought to have had at least a perfectly fair trial liefore it was stamped out. One would think that tli" Heoretary himself would loyally stand liy that agreement ; liul they tell me - the young men, I'mf. .Vndrews and olheis, liotli in Hivek- ville and Victoria I hat all the letters that came fnim the General Heoretary to them, lus they wrote to him ahiiut the young men and alKiir goinij there, were all just so iniieli cold water thrown on the movement. Dr. Si]TiiKiil..\Nli rardon me. I question that. Db. Rhv - Not directly in iiiy word he said against the movement, liul in the implication that there was soinethin;; wrong in any effort that was not exactly on a line with the funds that were given liy the Uuanl. I'hat what they did should be given into the funds of tlie Hoard. Sai 1 in such a way, they told mo [ am just K'^'nK what has come to me, and I think it is right that I might have the oppor tunity ot saying it without interruption -that the im|ires- •ion conveyed to their minds was that while iiiv letters to them were an insjiiration, and they felt as tlioimh ihey were willing to give men and money fur this or anv uther missionary cause, willing to st md liy me in it, and winte I to send their men, the letters of the (ieneial Seeretarv were DO much cold water "ii the whole undertaking. Then Victoria College had a man appoint :'ti, had his passage p lid, ready to go to an impurtant schuol that I had u|ioned, and where I wanted a man at a certain dale. The oorres|iiiud- enco told me the man was coming. 1 prumised the man to the directoi's of the schiKil. Dr. .Sutherland takes this man, after his passage has lieen paid here in Canada, and semis him out to Japan under the Hoard. Dr. HuTllKKLANn Who was this, iJr. ICby ( Dr. Euy — Mr. .Moore, I think ; and the result was that he dill not get there, lUs I had promised that school. The money that the luiys had expendid on that man, it seemed as though they could not get hack to send a man to this place that I hiul promised. The re.ult was that I lost that school, and those directin-s called inc a liar because I could not carry out that contract. Dr. HuTllKliLAsn f want to say two things. In the first place, I did nut take the man. lie came into our work, but not because he was taken by me. In the second place, we promptly refunded the cost of his pas.sage out, t)ecaUHe the fM'rsons that .sent him uut did not get his services, and we did. Dr. Eliv 1 leave my statements as they are. Dr. Sdtiikrland — I have no doubt you will. Da. Euy— And of oonrse the truth or falsity will have to be tested. Mr. CHisnoLM -Do we understand from your statement, 13 Ur. Kby, that » eartain amount of money wm rai«e4 aiul paid out fur the passage of this yoang man to Japan to take the poiition in a suhool that you hitd seiured lor him; that Dr. H\ .erlitiid took ohnrgo of the y<;ung man, sent him out III do work for the Mission Boird at your axunnMit Dii. KiiY -- I mil wi til say th tt he was sent by the Victoria Col lege. .Mit. CiiisU'H.M - Do you mean to say, then, that the Oemiral Board used that y'luttg man at the expense of Victoria College? Dii. ICiiv I say that he was educated and sent out, aitd that the expeii.ses were not paid for a long time. .Mil. (.'iiisiioLM Wo understood from you that they were not paid at all. Dii. Kiiv -I said they wore not paid for a long time. Dii. Hi rilKiii.ANli They were |uvid in the same year in which he was taken into our work. The corres|Mmdenoe of which Dr Kby speaks, of which there was very little with these two colleges, is precisely the same kind of oorrea- pondeiKM- I um conducting every week in the year, to try to prevent our young [leople and our College sooietiea from frittering away tlieir money on every kind of wildcat missiunary scheme, and diverting it fwin the Ceneral Hociuty and its work, and [ intend to continue on that line with all the strength I have. Dii. Kiiy And yet, after an iindeitaking has liaen recugni/ed liy the Council to a certain extent, recog- nized by (he Hoard, one would think that the correspond- ence oii;;hi to be very different, and that there ought to be some ciu'dial cii operation, lieoause [ was pnimised moral cooperation and administrative cooperation. But the adiiiiiiistration in this case did not- cooperate, but took the man out ut' my hands, whether Dr. Sutherland or unyboily else, I don't know the individual, but the admin- istration took this man, and ivs correspondence of the Seorei,ary — Dk. Si'TllRRHNi) -At whose request did wo take him? Who asked that Mr. Misire be taken into our regular work 1 Dr. Cochran can (wrhaps inform us. How was Mr. 0. I. I). Moure taken into our work '( Dr. CiiciittvN- -By the request of the Council. Dn. Env — Perhaps that is a dilferent name — the name of the man. The Chairmam — VVe are dealing with facts. We want to drive some stakes. Dii. Buy — I am trying to drive the stakes and I know that a man was taken from here. Perhaps some of the brethren can tell mo. Does Mr. Cussidy remember J .Mil. C.V88IDY--I cannot recall the name. Dr. Kuy— You will rnmembpr 1 asked to have a look at documents, and so forth, and if we were able to do that, an 1 had time, this would be mvde plain. We may just le.ive it as it i.s, ami leave it to lie substantiated or other- wise, and the brethren need lay no groat stress on it, only 1 distinctly romemlier the circumstances, and also the letter.! that came to me fmm these colleges, saying that the opinion of thiwe letters were such. Dit. HiiTiiKiiLASD -Have you got the letters beret Dr. Kdy— 1 have them amongst my letters. I will get them. Dr. SiiTiiKHLAND -In the published reports of Dr. Eby't Tatiernacle he stated in so many words that the Self- support movement collapsed because aft«r i-eturning from Japan 1 discuiiragod it, so that there were no more volun- teers. It the presence of Dr. Eby, in the meeting of the Kxocutive, I challenged that statement as lieing utterly inooncct, and Dr. Eliy said that statement should never have appeared in his rejiort, and he was sorry it ever got there. Dr. Env — Yes, 'oeo.ause I believed what you said. TiiK (^11 MiH)AN -Hut you do not now f l>H. Si'i'iiKui.ANn — And here is the documentary evi- dence in this statement that I had nothing to do with the collapse of the Hand, and Dr. Eby knows it collapsed from causes which I bad nothing to do with. Dr. Euy — This is one of the causes I um prepared to prove by witnesses if necessary. The Chairma.s — The letters you could have had here, certainly. Dr. Eby — I will refer now to Dr. Macdonald'i oonnro- UKNBIUL BUARD i)¥ MtliKmi. 1«i^ liuit. Whfii Mewi^ ('miitni)' «nd MoKwiiiir VKm boinit argvri into th« regular work, Dr. MtMilMMUd wnil* to Dr. S«th«rlMMl thun. daUwi Nnvontwr 4tb, 1M9. Thb in »n iKMrtMit httttr, Mid I will iuali« thU >• ithurt m I niii. Tim nhn now to Dr. Macdoiwld mmI hit allitud* Uiwartli Um Snif-mpport BmmI. (Utter rvad, d«t*d Nnvemlur 4th. 1M». M followi) : " II you Ml) giv« ua III* thrt* men, Ih* Counoil wmilil l>« glml to hiiTa nmn •|i|><)inl«il wlin urn nlroikdy i>ii lh» k^'OIhI, u>., Mr. ('rummy, Mr MoKaiiiia Mid Mr. I>iinli>)i. Tlioy Am lilvil m*n Kiid triia : ili«y hart «i|>«riirliiii| Itunil will yvl out luuii In till I hair pUivn if iiead Im>, liut if MoKuiiiic auil Cruoiniy. iii onler tn h»ld the pUcaa, nhoxM leiu'h *ft<>r \|iiil, they will mit .Iraw tialary fmin the Miaaioii while thiix liwchiiiii. We aarneetly hope that theae tkrve invn wdl be a|i|Hiiiili-d lo the Miaaion, McKeniie and Cruiiiinv have earh iiiado a oaliilal Impraaaion ', Dunlop ia alao • fliia fellow, and will be reaily to preaeh in Japaneaa ucit year." The point I want to iiuike ia, that ihia iiidii'iilra Ih' Maodonald'a Hp|Htrentlv vwy friendly altitude lownida tlii> men and thr uiidertukinf. Hi* aix-ukx of tin- iiii|ortaiit aohoula. He *|ieakN of tbw Hand getting out men to talii- the placea of the men lieing l>niUKht in, and of the import ance of their remaining in the nchiail until men Hhoiilil come tu their plncee ; and that leenieil tole hin frirndlv attitude t« the Hand all the way thmiigli >o far aa I wiin conoemcd. I knuw be hinaelf would ne%'er aturt n Itand of Uutt daicription, bat at the aame time I ncvrr thouxlit that there waa anV poaaibility of Dr. Macdonnld'^ doing anjthing that would injur* the Band, or prevent ini' from carrying out my undertaking, or that he would In' in iinv way dialoyal to the undertaking whirh waa in conntH'tion with the Board, ho far a« to lie recogniznl hv it , and \( not only the influence of the "cold water," aa the men ezpreased it, outride, hut right in Japan, when< thea<> men would naturally go for information ; they writi' to him, and every time they are hounded away ap(iartr. Mocdonald'a own atatement : "I believe (hat my apprei'iii tion of that," etc. (Keada further, cloaing with the wonia " withdraw and return home.') Now a man never rnine to Japan on account of tliat underatanding, that I had anything t4) do with, that met one little hit of diHaater. Ghown ia a man of independent meana. He came out, and after he had lieen there for a time, eiileriMl the miniatry. He found in a little time he waa not ciil out for the ministry and went home. That in all Iheii' ia to that. Ayrex waa sent out then* 4iy the Monlnvil .College hfiVi. He got a achool ; he paid intS<>|f Hup|< diandvaiit mge whatever, and went into the miniatry In < 'alifurnia. MoLe«n Brown ia a man that I wrote to, and he wrote to me, and my obrrespondenee with liim waa that he ought not In HMM tn Japm, And yet tn faM nf vhat I Iwd written lo bin ha did come. After h* owM wn tiki M inakii iha rery beat use we oould of him, but foaiMi In ■ little whila, aa I had antici|ialed, that he was not Um MMI wn needed. Uttr hia health began tu fail, and hit wajr waa |Htid baek ; he never lost a eent Ha went bMk « fiaid deal hotter than he came, in many way*. '* Why la Irokenshire," etc. (Heads further.) I never had « bit of conneotinn with him, nor he with the Band ; yet Dr. Mneihmald writes aa though this man had had • eonnao- lion with the Hand, and that by the onlla|iae he got into tiiiuhle. He never got Into trouble. He waa a valuable man, and after he found he could not do evan- geliatii' work ill the xehool where he waa, he was taken into n very excellent |Miallion in connertioii with the Hilile SiH'ielv in Yokohama, and had a very giaai income. He liMike<| all over the country to see v here he could find a pln<^i tgottt." (Heads from Dr. Macdonald'a letter.) I knew nothing whatever aliout this oppoaition of Dr. Miicilonnld until itap|M*ared in thia statement. And now I llnd that all these years, at the very inception of that move ineiit, with the exci'ption of n few men that came befoir the opixmitioiiN developed, every man was houndeil away, and till' result wax that when MoKenzie and Crummy were I'liiiight into the Hoard work theae two valuable schisils. |>aying two hundred yen a month. I lost out of the Band, liecauae I saw I could not get the kind of men I wanteecta," etc. (Hoods fmni Dr. Macdonald'a letter.) Now, thia is written in 1894, that I have a scheme in hand something like the Bund, I do not know where "iich nil idea came fnim. It never entere- And that plan gives you uiilimiti'dj authority to employ workers of either nationality ? Dh. Khv I simply gave to them a private communica- tion which I never comniunicuted to this Board. I wan( information from them aa a luuiis upon which to move ; jget information from them as to what they would endoi a»d to think the matter over, _VWlOiUIMM Da In-Mai k almpiy a iim|m Jkhm, hara la ai laoMhiag hia n« Iha Mlwion to I narar, from tl tha aaallaat idea uaalaaaman. Da. HiJTHaHijk Da. Bav Ver to abaorb theae n mind waa this, together with an Japan, that very ArsVolasa men tn if they wert' so r an idea that I ha or anything of I It was that theae or where thny ii man, or those tliii would lie returne and I never depi the Boani to do i ing" down to the That i:iny lie so, i but look at it th I had and have i tested and tried tunity of taking good iiiisHionuriui Boanl'a fuiida; f Krove the kind ol ome. You havi but if you have I teated, and you t the teat, and you bad or inilitferent ment of risk is Maodonald's alatj my mind indicai the Band were side, over which simply because course, when the was brought al: the dissolution fair to judge Ruoh odds of sec ship to me 1 I shall refer my family to these : I nnd a Executive Com oonaisting of al is the Executi is the date of committee witi Now, wo talkfl myself ineludei matter. I was all felt that it doubt about th I so very commor the wife and cl the missionary aflair. And been Imiking letter.) I juat ' are preparing ~ allow the Trea was very plain 1 the children, b starting or mi sense of that k I regard to Mrs. I at the docuin {ring to page of I JAMN km/am iii hy f whki I M MM IrMtO mt kmtd ina lUOltiMnM mmI hit waj B want hMk A tjm. " Why it tmr hud * bit tend ; yat Dr, hud • onnMo- nllniMW h« got t. Iln WM It not do itv«n- lit< wiM takm ■tioii with tho y fpnui tncunMt. ht< cMiuld And My laft Janiii. or th« otMr. now in," etc. iliitn careen.") tliey would h«vi< lelkMrd. Why .rd service fmiii ith one or two Rhould they At ail I Kvery lioni)', or he lent <-vf>rythiiiK Axni f tlicm would Iw I with tho Board, id indioiiteH that ow ledge of mine, keep every man " What waa the llapHcd from the r. ■lent. And now 1 tion of that move that cnine beforr uH houndendiiig, u|ion the Roarti to do anything of lliat kind. "Oi-iierally npeak ing" ilown to tho worcU " regular way " (lleadM from letter.) That may lie so, and this is nut thi' place to dispute it ; but look at it tliooniliuallv, mil fnnn the Htaiid|M>int that I hod and have still, the having of inon in Ja|>an to Ije tasted and tried, ami out of these you have an oppor- tunity of taking the very In-st humi that ai-o proved to be «>od missionaries, it is certainly »ri economizing of the Boani's funds ; for you semi out men, and if they do not Krove the kind of men you want you have to bring them ome. You hove the ex|iens« of Handing out and back ; I but if you have tlicro u Helf-support Hand tli>it thing is teated, and you Hnd certain men that have gone through the tent, and you do not have tn try whether they are good. bad or inditrerent, but you know what they are. Tlie ele- ment of risk is very largely reduced. Xiiw, that is Dr. Macdonahl's statement over his own signature, which, to my mind indicates that the liiddi'n foici's that destroyed the Band were there in existence on this si(le ami on that side, over which I had no control, and the Hinl collapsed simply beoouse of that oppoHitir>n. The time came, of course, when the occasion of the (lisHiihitiim of the Hand was brought alxiut by other causes, hut tlii< real cause of the diH.solution was there. I ask yon to say whether it is fair to judge of a m'lveiiienl which has -to contend against such odds of secret opposition in the fair form of friend- ship to me 1 I shall refer t^i another case, and tint is the return of my family to this country. The facts of the ca.se are these : 1 And a note or an extract from the Minutes of the Executive Committee of tho Mission Cmincll in Japan, oonsiating of all tho missionaiics in or near Tokyo. That is the Executive Oommittee thiM'i'. Doci'iubor lOtli, IS9l, is the date of the meeting. " Dr. Kliy consulted the oommittee with regartl t4i Mrs. Kby'a going home, " etc. Now, we talked the luiltcr over, ami (hi- bivtiiivii and myself included felt that we hail no jurisdiction in the matter. I was to lay the case iM-fore the Hoanl, mid we all felt that it was a perfectly cleai' case, that there was no doabt about the Board at once agr(>eing to a thing that is •o very common in Japan. 'J'iic cliililien must go to schcxil ; the wife and children go home, and remain for a time, and the missionary n>mains on the field. It is a very common affair. And here is my letter : " For some lime I have been looking forwaiil to the inevitable." etc, (Heads letter.) I just want you to look at that sentence : " We are preparing for our departure next month, provided you allow the Ti-easurer to advance the fumlK.'' Thai 1 think waa very plain. We vere looking about home afl'airs, and the children, but there was no arrangement in the sense of atarting or making it so that we could not stay, in any aenae of that kind. " Dr. F^by consulted the committee in ngord to Mrs. Eby's going home," etc. Now please look at the document snd hear the statement there. (Refer- ring to page 22, Iwttom of second column.) "T regret hftWag to ntm |» • mk^llMl fa ahfa^ i I submit than than fa mUHm in my fattmr to MImtm anything of HM kind, that I had mada tiia awmn f aant in such a way that any acpraaaion uf opiidoii from thia Kxeoutive would simply raquira a daoiditd Mo. I had man pnjvided ; I simply say that weai-e hsiking towards getting home at a certain time, provided the funds are allowed. No other idea aver entered my mind. .Mil. (iiiHNKV But you did not say so. I>H. Euv Hut Dr. Mocdonald had my letter. He aaya this thing coalesces with what I have said. l)H. HiiTiiEKr.AND— Certainly. Dii. Khy -I do not lielieve any person reading tliat letter would imagine there was anything in it than simply that the "ircuinstances are such that it is wis:) for them to go home. .Mil. (iiiHNKV That "circumstances have compelled us (o hiwtcn the event." 1)11. Khv I give the circumstances in the letter that make it necessary to hasten the event. .Mil. (liTHNKV -The language of tliat juntiAes the Heore- tary lieyond all ijuestion. |)h. Hhy It does not strike uie so, and I think there are a groat many others that think it does not justify tha language of the Secret iry. L>u. 8UTIIKHLAND -Just a Word of explanation here. Let us not make a thing more serious than necessary. This iui|iect of the case, I suppose, would not have lieou referred U) at all except that a remark of mine substantially like that which occurs in this printed document was made in the meeting of the Executive when Dr. Eby was there, and it seemed to offend him greatly. The satenient woa to the elFect that it had occurred more than once in Japan that they took action flrst, and would refer things to us afterwards. From the date of those documents, and the acticm of the committoo, you can see the truth of what I say, that liotli the fact and the time of the return of Dr. Eliy's family was settlM before we received the flrst inti- m ition aliout the thing at all. Dr. Eby -I would like to present this case right along. Dh. Sutherland — Well, present it truly, and I will not interrupt you at all. Du. Eby — [ am giving the historical statement as faat as I can, step aft«r step. I need not go over the steps that brought about another correspondence which oame to Japan in 1893. r would like if the brethren would listen. It may be of no con8e(]uence to you, brethren, but it is to me. I^tt. BRinns — We are hearing every word. Dk. Eiiv - In this letter of 1893, on page 4 of the Heview, a long letter. I am not going to read what is there, but I am going to read what is not there. I will not take up your time to show how this came about. You will see that the whole letter there is endorsed by the Kxccutiv.4 Committee. After the reading of this letter, " .Moved by H. H. Matthews," on page 5 at the top of the lirst column, "seconded by Hon. J. C. Aikins, and resolved.' (Heads.) I say I would like to traverse the whole of that letter, to show how unjust it is from begin- ning to end, and here is an omission from that letter that is not to Im- found in this statement. Dii. Si.'TiiERLAND — Lilt US have it. r.«t me read the in- triKluctinn. (Reads introduction.) Di(. Ehy — This is a part of the letter that refers to the subject I am speaking on. Dr. Sutiiekland -What is the date uf that letter, ploasn / Dr. Eby "Toronto, Uthof April, 1893." I would juat say, while he is looking it up, 'that when my request that my family might come home was received, this impression seemed to have prevailed, and on the head of that I woa told that as my family was so large I hud better come home with them, or very shortly afterwards, and take up work here in this country or in the United States, and stay iiimtk^ 196 QENBIU .^aRD of missions, 1R05. until my family had had un educntion, and then perh»iM go back to Japan. Dt . Macdonald felt tliat this wm « prnctical rccull, and su ('xct»ni all over our work, and it was rwnu'kttxl ihiit I hIiouKI not lie recalled. Then the letter in, "Toronto, 1 »th April, 180;i." Mb. Nixon -You oonipluin of the onli^<^i()ll I Dr. EliY — It is not tlie ouiiiiHion, luil what is in the ODiiKiiion. There ia nothing in this intriNluo.orv piiriiKi'iiiih except the (jmerid charge of the niisKionaries taking thin^H into their own handiv "Then it will he in your remem- brance that Pr. Ehy's family r« is not one single little bit of truth. Mr. Oi'RNKY — Do you mean it is inaccurate I Dr. Kbv — I mean it is untrue. Dh. SiTiiEiu..\NH— Dr. Ehy is pnrtiiilly correct. It ap- pears the Mission Council never gave authority or even consent. 1 was making it as mild as (MisMlile for Dr. Kliy, for I thought thai suiv'v no inissionaiy >a '-.is family would come home without at >a»t "\e coiisi-nt of the Council ; but I wait evidently mis. ..ken ; the Council did not author- ize it. Dr. Env And they never would lia\e coini- without the consent of this Hoard. You will see the following sentence: "It has seemed to the imuo littcc that theiv is a disposition on the |>art of the Council,' and m« on. (l^uotes extract closing with the woitls, "hut to sunct'on the ii't once it is dune.") That is provtnl hy only one tact uiveii til show that the Mission Council ever did that, and that one fact ia a (xisilive untruth. .\nd 1 say that that sen- tence there of what tliclAmncil did is also uiitnie from the beginning of the Council up to the dale of ISl'L', « hci-e there is an action that might !■<< conslrurd in thai uay. The Council never did anything of the kind, and every act they' ever did, on important financial lines, wius to siand hy Dr. Muctlonald every time. Dit SirilKlll.ANli — I think, Mr. President, I can lind even in this stulement two or three instances, and I lielieve tliefc are not all. Dn "iiv- Allow me to gel through. Dr (Si tiikklaND-I will not allow any absolutely untrue atntemeiUi to |>Hss without challenge at the time. You inakM •tatenieiith of that kiiiil without proof, then you go on and do not tako them up afterwards. There are several in stances ir. which important things were deciiled liy the Council. They »iote he ■ to us, it is tine, hut in this form, that if they did not leiM'ixe a calilrgiaiii hy a certain dat" th' '''..THitiV — Could you give US innlsncest s; ■ SCTiiKliLAND— I will give the instances at the proper itort'. •'» rinv — All w-e can say is that it in not true that the ( :) nci', ..I [.irate from Dr. Niacdonald, y would not put wordfc ill my mouth I neter used. Dn. KliV I ai.i making coiiiments upon the facts. Db. SrniKUI.AMi \'ou are niisstatinij! the facts. '*". Eh\ - .Ml fill' way thnxigh there are stat'>iiienta here ; 1 oiulil have got up every iiiintiteand have traversid them juHt as you are traversing theui, from heginuing to (slid < f the stati'iiii'lit. Di!. .'^irilKBUVIi -Only that my »taleiiients an- correct. Dr. KliV Only that my italemeiils aii- corie.i. TiiK CllAlltXAX I think the lu'tti-r way is to dear this up. We hav.i to reply to this thiniial length, if necessary, and we will go to ou>' u'.irk on Sunday, nno then conii> Imek lieri' next week. It will !m' necet^ary to do (hit, or some thing of tint kiml, in oriler that *his matter may be prop- erly sifleil to the liottom. Dr. Euy - It is stiitod here in one place, " It i« scarcely necmutary for me to say that we have and still have had," •nd so OD. " They have abo entire faith in the sincerity and good iDtentiona o( tho mombertof the Council." (Reftds frODi letter of Seoretarj.) Dr. 8i:tiikrlanu — Please do not read that in a tone that puts a diH'eront meaning into it Read it as yon did the Urst part. Dr. Euv — "They have also paid," etc. (Reads paragraph again.) Now I want to know, if this is controvei ted, of the instances where that kind of thing was done, and where anything was done by the Mission Council on tinaucial lineii, as indicated iiereafter, in which Dr. Macdonald waa not Just as much implicated as ourselves. And there is a direct misstatement of facts. You can see how that kind of thing would aflecl us in Japan, and especially the men that it struck. I came home, and in the tirst committee meeting that I attended in the city of Toronto I said that I had a iiiimlier of tinancial attairs that I would like to settle, a few httio things, and get them out of the way, as they were minor atlairs, and I wanted to get them out of the way liefoie we talked of come other serious matters in con- nection with thn work, when I had moie strength to doit; and besides, these financial atlairs were of immediate moment to me, as I wanted to know whether I would have enough to live on » Idle 1 was here, or whether I would have to go lo work and earn money to support my family. I made a claim for Mrs. Eby's indirect travelling expenses, and after I had done making my statement iti regard to this. Dr. Sutherland, the Secretary, rose and said very warmly that if this kind of thing woh to he allowed, and these claims were to ho ailmitted, the best thing wouUI he to take the wliole lot ouc of the country ; and this was a case in point, that they were taking things into their own hands, iimking expenditures of mom y, and sending on word that the thing was done, and expecting us to endi)r.se it. Here was a cusrt in point. Mrs. Ehy ai.:l the fumily were sent home, and the first thing ho know aliout it they were in this ciiuiitry, and he was expected to pay their travelling e.\peii8i'S. Dr. Si'TiiKiil.AM)- Is any member of the committee here prepiU'(>d to sniistant ate that statement? 1 deny it flatly a.', being an ui:e. perversion of the facts. llo.s. Mii.AiKiNS -1 WHS present when Dr. Ehy addressed the |!oatd, and I never heard such a stateiiii'iit. f)ii. Kmv The .Senator was just putting on his lioots and going out — 1 mean his overshoes — and he may not have hcai'il it. I>ii Si-TiiKKLANU— Here is the Chairman, end Dr. Potts and I Ir. Ihigus. I'll. Kliv If you will allow me, 1 will goon. |)k. Si'TiiK.lii.ANli I will not allow you to go on until that is corrected, i insist upon an answer from the other memliers of the committie, whetlier I made sti';R. Eliv - 1 got up iniiii' iliately, and used the unparli.< mentary phrase of this 1m mg fuUe. 1 was called to order by the Chair, and then I said that this statement of Dr. Sutherland's was to my mind an entire inisstatement of tho fads of the case ; that when we had made u|i our minds the tiiiii' hail come for .Mr.". Ehy tu come home, w« w rote to tlin Executive ; we waited until an answer came back ; after the answer came back we tnok our first action. I>H. SrTlltRl.AXn — Did you wait beyond March, thelime you had lixed to conn' lioinel I IB. Euv I staleil there that we had waited until tin- answer from the Executive hud conn- to us In Japan ; the Heiretary sat ihiwn, and he said, " Well, that is a matter I'lir till' records to show ;" and a brother moved that Dr. I'nrki"- be a coiiiMiitteo along with Dr. Sutherland to look up the doriinients hikI kco whether that record was right or wrung, whether he had made a misstatement of facta or not, for the records would show the dales of the meetings, and litters, and so forth. The coiniiiittee went on witli other business, and I went away. We met in coiiiiniltee meeting some time aflirwaids Oil. SiirilKKI.^ND Is there any such record I Kb. Env - I have n recoiil. I>u liHKiiis— Did you take down tho words that you read as liaviti:; lieen sp"ken t Dk. Ehy — Yes, I did; immediately after I went from (he inueliiig I put them down. Dh. Bhiuus— I am very sorry to have to rise up and in- t«ffupt your n memory of the there may be i with that of It Dr, Potts— Dk Eby-A a large amount cally I found a in this commili brought in, am oided to bring Executive, whl had been said, thing was false Dr.- Sum eh I was not ignore Dr. Potts - The Chaihs Dr. Khv— I Parker about to (his counir Finance in ihi them some per wished to h'ivi more serious i|i on. (Heads le Dr. Potts wou was not a men 1894. Dh. Sutiikh the conimittee Dr. Euy-^-V Dr. Potts- Db. SirniKH Dr. Ehy 1 Dr Hbioiis circumstance. is as clear as il man will join 1 Dh. Si/riiKH that the whoU pay the ful of the Board I lowed by the Dk. Euv - my family bcil about it. Dk. Suniil mine. Dr. Env this point I fact. PeriiiiJ of tho Secret J we had writtJ wailed lor ll committee liij reached Ja|J Secretary sal records alonT Parker be a I into the rocil terval poii,!>'nco was brought in, and the result of it was to show that 1 had do- oided to bring my family home before asking liberty of the Executive, which was an entirely ditl'erent tiling. If that had been said, I never would have got up and said the thing was false. Dr.'Svthkklknd -And I atlirm here that Dr. Parker was not ignored. Dr. Potts — He is not the man to lie i<-nored. Thb Chaikman— It iu perfectly amazing. Dr. Knv — Here is a letter to Dr. I'aiker. I wrote to ]>r. Parker about it. "Dear l)r. Parker, — When I returned to this country 'ind appeared before the Committee of Finance in the month of Feliruary, I8'J4, I liiid before them some personal items of tiiiance, which I explained T wished to have put out of the way before dealing with more serious nuestions which F wished to bring up," and so on. (Reads letter.) It just falls into my iniiiil here that Dr. Potts would not be likely to remember it, because lie was not a member of the committee. This is the last year, 1894. Dh. .Sutiikiii.ami -Dr. Potts certainly was a member of the committee in l'r. Sutherland's acknowledging his mistake and apulogi/ing as any g' ntlenmn wimld do when he found ho had mnde a liliinder. Instead of tli.it, how ever, the Hecrilary piodined an immense amount of cm ■ respondence from l>r. -Macdoiiald, mysi'lf, ami others, giving e\iracts which he thought would suit his purpose of concealing the point at issue, winding u[i with the allirmii- tion '.hat all of this proved that 1 had de ided to have my family come Ui tiaiiftda wiiliout writing to him about it. " Before the c'ose of the meeting it was pointed out to Dr. Sutherland timt he had no iiiu.e or fault agiii ist tim Council or against iiiiv ini-sionary, but had started out to prove that the ('ouncil had taken matters into tlnirown hands," etc. I am reading from my letti-r to Dr. Parker, (Reads letter.) And here is Dr. Paiker's answer : " Vours o! the 16th Instant received. In reply I beg to say,'' otc. (Rwtds letter.) Mb. Kixok— Will you ahow ui now, air, whare ha wu ignored t Db. Kry— Where the Secretary (aid thit ii a mere matter of record, and I will take the records and show the placet, Mr. Nixom — They were there and Dr, Parker did not Hxamine them. That waa not ignoring him, TiiK Chairman — He would not luy that he wat ignored. He gives his decision there positively, Dr. Euy — There is just one thing more T will say iu connection with that, and then I will bo very nearly done. Dr. Potts— Shall we continue in session 1 Dii. Eiiv — I can come back this evening, 1 can llnish in ten minutes. The simple ytnii/d of this ii : I look back at one other instance of u person rnming irnin Japan, my daughter Kollie, some years before. I tliought it was wise for her to come. We talkc siniply a writing in the air. My complaintii c.f harsh ti'iatinent and of niikindness hud no refeience to anything that I remember bearing, as 1 beard those extracts rend, of what is stated in this document. The thing that I felt was unkind waa the fact tiiat after coming to this country, and occiisionally appearing beforn the comniittci>, the way in which 1 waa received was not as kind os it might be by the Secretary or by the Cliair at times. I may have been mistaken in my nervous condition, lint I did think it would be a kindly thing to have sat down and talked with lue and found out just what the ditiiculty was that I had been feeling so long. Then there was another thing, and I may as well staie it here, and that is abo with regard to my family. I sent my family homo at the time when the new regulations were made to apply to Japan. The regular order of procedure formerly was that the tickets should he bought, and fifty dollars for each adult, and proportionately for the children, should he given. At this juncture, however, Dr. Mac- donald dill not do so. He snid to me, "There is no doubt about their exjienses eventually being paid ; " and f felt myself that the thing was so niitnial that tho whole expense would be paid, and the niisKiomiry w< 'd not be expected to |iay so huge an amount out of his own salary to have his family como home. I had laised about one hundred dollars for my wife to get a little hit of furniture in a little cottage that I supposed she would be ablo to rent somewhere, and I said to her, " Now voui' incidental expenses will probably come to about the amount of this money, and you can expend it for tliiit purpose, and when you get to Canada we will write to the Mission Itooms and present the expenses, or have coi respondence ahout it, and i^ventnally the amount will be paid without iloubt ;" ond so 1 left it. She got here to the iMiinliy with the children; she visited at certain places; eveiitinilly I found I hat she was to he in Manslield, wliere she was to be settled for a time at a certain date, an. I the amount of money ihit was still in her po>sis-, and said. Now, no matti'r what the result should be about these incidental expenses, whether they wii be paid as such, or whether it will be taken eventually out of my salary, or whatever it may be, the eirciiinstaiuis »i such that my wil'e needs thiit money iiiiniediatel , . and I asi< yun, in Doil's name, to send it, and he > her out of the dillieiiliy, under those circuin- Staines ; 'leciiiise she would b.> aniiiiig entile strangers, without a house, without a chair .to sit on, and without a dollar in a few days a week or so after hr, Sutherland would get this letter. I ncvur vcecelvod an acknowledge- feA^aCJWfc-i^" "ir'Tf- "■vt*^ 198 QEKERAL BOtJO^ Of l^glC^ ISM^ V^lri mnrt of tUa latter, mmI my wife nover raorivwt a Mot. W« heud nothing about it for monuig Mid ntonthi *tUlr- •wwiia, when Dr. Sntborland wroto to Dr. Maodonald and ■aid, What about these travelling expenees of Mrs. Ebyt Did you pay the ordinary fifty dollars 1 And the oorrea- pondeoce went on from that. If auyone had written to me that hia wife was likely to be in difficulty, and hia chil- dren, no matter how irregular the circumstances were, and asked me to help under those circumstances, I would have gone to a great deal of trouble to have sent money to that family that was likely to be in distress. The result was, that for about a month before I was able to send a money order on Toronto, my wife was suflpring, and my children were sulfering actual want. They were there amongst entire strangers, and when a neighbor saw that the butcher cart and uilivr things did not appear before the door, quietly went around and said. Would a loan of |S.OU help you } Hh« got the 9n.0O, ind they went over a certain number of days on shori, rations, as in shipwreck, and eventually they gut a little money from a brother, a small amount, and that went on until at last my order came and they were relieved. But during that time they suffered very considerably. Now, I consider that that was not a kind thing for the Secretary to do. Db. St;TiiKKl.ANO — Perhaps a word of explanation would be in place here. I can recall that there was Siime corre- spondence just at tliat time ; that is, there was one letter from Dr. Eby. The family had come. Dr. Macdonald advanced the money for expenses. After Mrs. Eby reached the country we received a brief niemorii.nduni of incidental expenses — they appeared to l>e — amounting to between |9C and lUiO, perhaps 997 or (198. Now it is our custom always to ask the missionaries coming home or going out to keep a detailed account of their expenst'S and send it in, s» that if there is anything challenged we will have the details there to make it clear. Up to that point, when we rt -reived the memorandum, there was no evidence that those ex{>enses had not been paid. 1 regarded it as a memorandum of what the expenses wore. And when, at a later date, some claim was mode for the expenses, I wrote to Dr. Macdonald to know just what he had done, how much he had paid, and in regard to his advancing money. The moment we got authority from Dr. Eby and Dr. Macdonald we paid the proportion of saliiiy over to Mrs. Eby that we were requested to pay : and all tliut was necessary, when she was coming, was to send ati order initialed by Dr. Macdonald, and of course tiie money would have been paid. Hut Utre is the tmulilo : While hitherto the great complaint against me is taking arbitrary action, and doing things without authority, now the complaint is I did not take arbitrary action and do things on my own authority that I ought not to do. I am in the predicament of the boy who, uhen the parson asked him the meaning of the phrase " sins of oiniKsion " replied, " Please, sir, it is sins you ought to have coiniuitt<-d liut did not." Mk. Cassidy — There is a (jueslion I would like to ask Dr. Eby l)efore he retires. 1 know it will relieve the minds of some of the brethren lure in regard to a matter that came out yesterday. ( was asked by whose authority those publications sid d icumenis went into the press. I have Just written a little statement here, which J wish to hand over, and I wish to ask Dr. Eby if he would accept it as a correct statement. Krom the Executive meetings of May last. Or El>y and I agreed to regard our cau^ in relation to missionary mutters, as distinct and separate the one from the other. I)r. Eby felt hiniselt to be placed in a position which coinp' lied liiui to take an attitude towards certain matters wliich 1 was not forced to take. It was after this that Dr. El>y » rotn lo me informing me that lie had instructions to puMi'-li, on certain conditions, some of the documenls that cam irnm the brethren in Japan, ami that unless I wouM take the i rsponsiliility of preventing this course, they would !« giv,;n to the press. I replied that I would take no r<-spon^ ')ility in preventing it, and that he migh^ us<; his own juil^ment. This is substantially my reply, as nearly as I reuieinlier it. I was delicate about stating just how this was m Dr. Eby's abiwuice, knowing thest''^? he was in, and w'lat he had passed through. I was ve>y reticent aliont saying this. I have consulted him •boat it, and if Dr. Eby will acknowledge this as correct, I will dmfij Mk» this Uttla aUtuttDi to pgt -th* iMtlMr ■tmight. Db. Ebt— Tint ia oon«ot, Mb. Oauidt — There are two other little points, if jroa will allow me about two minutes, that I think will reliov* the minds of the brethren also. May I be indulged 1 Thb Chaibman — Yes. Mb. Oassidv — I stated that once a letter probably waa lost. The fact is that letter was smt a year before. When things turned around so that an election took plaoe in Japan, to which we were referring, then I said to myself I wonder if that letter ever got there, or if it had any effect. I hope it did not ; that was my feeling. Without telling what I meant I asked the man to whom I sent it, and ho said he had no recollection of it ; so I suppose it produced no eltieot. If it had it was forgotten, for I never heard of it again. I said perhaps it was lost I would not like to assume a letter was lost simply because I would rather it had been ; but that is the fact. Then another. There was a line I intended to have underscored and replied to, and did not, and I feel as though you would be pleased to have me say a word. It is in the second column on page 70, "They would go to antagonize Dr. Macdonald," and HO on. I simply want to assure the brethren that had I gone to Japan at the close of last (.ieneral Conference, when things were in a very much worse state in my mind than they are now, I would not have gone to antagonize anybody. My intention was to have gone to be ut peace at any cost. I was intending then — and the reason that I was consenting to go was : I was appointed to a place in the college where I would have a minimum of relation to any vexed question ;— my intention was to antagonize nolK>dy, but to drop into a peaceful corner, do my tlieo- logical and literary work, and be at peace. I know this atlects no question now, but I think it will relieve the minds of a good many for me to say it. Dr. Hi'TllRKLAND— 1 am very glud to hear Mr. Cassidy make the staU'ment. I accept it quite readily, as far as I have any right to a<;cept it, just as he has stivted It. The two or three lines to which he has just referred were written by me under the conviction that as the antagonism had nut ceased here, I hod no hope that it would cease out there under existing circumstances. I am very glad to hear Mr. Cassidy say that the pur(H)se of his heart, if he went back, would lie to promote peace in every {H)ssible way. Mr. Cassidy — And if you will let me complete the sen- tence ; if anyone here hears of my going to Japan, you may know that 1 go to antagonize nothing, but to accept the situation. Dr. St'TiiKiiLAND — Very shortly our friend and brother. Dr. Cochran, will \te leaving us to return to his distant home. Just now the section with the heading, "Harsh Treatment," has Ixien referred to. As you might almost expect, this would lie a part of the complaint to which I would Im* esfiecially sensitive. I think nothing would pain me more than to have it thought that I could, under any oircumstjinces, Im^ unkind or harsh to a missitmary ; and I would just ask this before L)r. (.'oehran goes, as he wiut long in the Japan Mission, familiar with all it^ work, and hivd a giMsl deal of corresiKjmlence with myself with regiinl to furloughs and other inatt^'rH ; F wouhi Im> glail to have him say frankly here to this lioaitl if he knows of any instance in my intercourse and corres|)ondence with him or with the Council, or with any of the missiunaries, in which he felt or thought that I had said or done a iiarsh thing. 1 wont him to state sirrply what he knows or feels in this mattt'r ; and if I have in any cose done that thing that has given pain in that way, I would Im' glad to do anything in my |HJwer to make the thing right, although the day may now Ih> long jioKt. Dii. CociiHAN— 1 am glari to have the opportunity, Mr. Chairman, of maki'tg this statement. As to all the 1'orre.spondi^iice that imimumI between us, so far as his letters to myse'* were concerned, they were businesslikt>, and generally as brief as the statements would admit, but always cordial and brotherly. Ho far oh the letters to the Council were conoemeut i the Whole, t! Mrs. E. H. SI man's Missioi me, but I su Dh. Potts The CiiAi affair, und ^^ read as folio "To pre |x>sitiuld cease out iIh heart, if he every possible iiplote the sen- ni)iin, you may to accept the i and brother, to his distant ^ing, " Harsh might almost int to which I ng would pail) lid, under any ionary ; and I HH he was lung >rk, and had a ith regard to cl tu have him r any instance him or with 1, in which he irsh thing. 1 1' ftiels in this hing that ha« II anything in 1 the day may iipIKjrtunity, As to all the ' as his letters inesslike, and [1 admit, but !ettt!rs to the * anything in or a brother iistinct state- ntf>CBBDIN08 AS JAPAN AFf AIRS. 199 nents made, but Mmr offijnaivtly, never in svoh language M an official should not. use in making communioations respecting the duties of his office to those who had a right to listen his statements. As far as any statement has gone forth that Dr. Sutherland's communications with us were harsh or unkind, my experience and my knowledge is directly contrary to that. I n°ake this statement frankly, and l>ecause I know it to be true. Till, CllAlRHAN— Have you any knowledge about that prayer meeting matter, in which Dr. Macdonald's name is referred to? Dr. Covhkan— This is the first time that I have heard anything about it. Tub Chairman -What was the view of the Council of the evangelistic su[>erintenclency, as apart from the busi- ness superintendency 1 Dr. Cochran -Tiiat was a provision made in a former Discipline. Dr. Sutherland— Of 1886. Db. Cochran — Yes. That provision was made by the constitution of the Council in that Discipline, and because I was absorlxnl and limited by the duties of the college, so far as my week days were concerned, I did desire that Dr. Eby should have that otBce, which was provided for, and that he might exercise the functions there for the benefit of our Church, and he did. TiiK Chairman— Do you think that would have been an actual beneflt 1 Dr. Cocii ran— That was a tenofit, so far as my experi- ence and knowledge j][oes. On Sundays 1 was a preacher of the (.Jospel gliully, and all my Sundays were spent in that way when I hud health or strength for the work. TllK CiiAliiMAV — There is an important ooinmunication here in hand. 1 will read it to the brethren and thoy can think alK>ut it. It ought to come before the Committee of the Whole, though we have not time to-night. It is from Mrs. E. H. Straolian, Corresponding Secretary of the Wo- man's Missionary Society. It is not .ipcciall}' addressed to me, but I supiiose ()esigned for the Boiinl. Dk. Potts -Should not the Hoard consider that? TllK CllAll(.MAN--l think it is connected with the Japan affair, and will be report' I to the Board. (The letter was. read as follows) : " Montreal, Ortf.r lOfh, 189C. "To |)ruvcnt wnsto of time in disciisKioii, nnil uncertainty of IHisition, it isdcsiii'cl mid dcciiiuil neuexsHry that soniu detinitu expression lie );iven liy tills Koiiid us to t)io liberty of the WuimiiiH Misiiiniiury Society in view of the action tuken in re|;ard lo the Ituv. V. A. ('iissldy. "S. K. (ioOliEHHAU, '•/■cm. ofthf IV.M-.S. " E. S. Stkaphan, •• Cur. See." Mr. NlX0N--Are we to underatand that Dr. Eby is done t TllK Chairman -That is as I understand it. Dr. Porrs — Would you be wiiliiif; to give your judgment as the Chair u|ioii tlie liiler just read 1 TllK Chairman- 'I'lii' IWianI are not at all under obliga- tions to aeeept anylliing I may say. The I'liair would be preparnl to say tliat lie eunsiilers il (leei(le(ll\ iriexpeas it is due to Dr. Eby, in view of all the facts and eircumstanceii, that he have employment in the Church ; therefore resolved. That Dr. Eby l)e employed by this Board, from the 1st day of July, 1895, until July 1st, IHyC, in the interests of our missionary work, at the same remuneration as given to a missionary on furlough ; the Executive Committee of the Board to have |)Ower to designate, and if neces.sary to discontinue, the work, as in its judgment shall l>e to the advantage of our Mission- ary S loiety. M < erl by the Hev. Dr. Briggs, seconded by the Rev. Dr. T. G. Williams, That the Kxcculivn Committee l)e author- ized to employ in the mission field the Hev. F. A. Cassidy, in the interest of our missionary work, for such time as it thinks piiiper, and at such remuneration as it may deter- mine. Further, that the Executive Committee be em- powered to employ Mi-. Cassiily if. the .Japan or other foreign field when the way to successful work in that field, in the estimation of the Executive Committee, is open. Dr. Ehy expressed bis gratifioition with the action of the Hoard and the provision made for his support, which was better than he had rea.son to expect. He would do his very best to promote the interests of the Society and the peace of the Church. This closed the business with regard to Japan affairs. mm FT'J.'Wl^ '■A indp:x to seceetary's review. [Note. — An Index of tho general discuations is fouml to lie impracticable, but for c.inveni- eiice of reforeiicM an Index of tliu ..lerutttry'.s Reviuw is appended. ^ W PRKLIMINAnY StATF.MKNTS A Painful Subject — Hiipncc No Ijunj^cr Pos »ible — UeasonH for lliis Htatismeiit Tlu' Statt'iiK-nt OlHoiiil and Personal Tlu" Policy of SIliMici' — Popular Impressions. I. — TlIK MlSSIOX Cof.NCll. Is it Wisi,' to Have A Council I -Tlie Consti- tution Ton(iiMioiL'.s iu theduncil -Attit.ide of the Itciiinl - Friction Between Council and Dr. Miu:donalil -Action of F^xecutive — Sec- retJirv's I^'tters to Dr. MacilonaKl — l>is|iosi- tion of Surplus Funds. II.— Cllll.DKKNS .\l.LO«ANCK8 Bej^innini; of the Dirticulty Protest of the Missionaries — .\etion of the Boiird — Ditto in 15<'.U Krt'tH-t of this Action Imixjrt- ance of Memorial. III. — Complaints of IIaiuii Tkkatmknt.. Whrre IhH-H IjiJHstice Appear) Duties and Policy of U'ani — Hm|uest8froni Missionaries*, How Tri'ated Financial Provision for Mis- sionaries -Kfinarkable F'inancial Proposals — The Propi'sals Conci-eted — Chani;e of Front — .'Vn Emphatic Denial — liequest for an Eniiuiry. IV.— The ■iELK-HfproHT Movement v.— The Claim kok K.ypkvses The .Self-Sup|iort Plan —Hoard Not Res|)on- sible — Income of Missionaries -(irouiid of Claim — The Claim Fomiulatt'd —Comments — Action of Hoard — Various I>?tt('rs -.Mr. McKenzie's Claim —Further Facts and Con- clusions. VL — TiiK Central Tabeksaclr Points in Its History — I'he Architectural Plan How the Talieniade wivs Evolved — Dr. Eby Hfturns Home -A N.'w .Site Pro- cured — The Talif rniu?le Hurntsl and Rebuilt Oversiffht of Tabernacle Finances — A Lady Missionary Asked For -— Tals'rnacle Ex- penses — Grants Ueipiiree(ial Fund -Effect of ISoaiil's Action - Friction B«twe<'n the Councils — Dr. Ehy's Ijitest Scheme -How the Hoard Vi<'wed It l>'tter of Dr. Miicdoiiald Ix'ttcr of Mr. Hiraiwa. VII. Kktiiis of I)|(. Eby asu Family.. How It Came About-Tlie Secretary's Ix"!- ter .\otiiui of Mission Council — Some Ke- nmrkable Uesulutiiins- The Executive He- plies -The Council Keturns to the ('liarjfe - Wiser .\ction by t'.ie Council -SeciTtary's letter U> Dr. Maodonald- U'tt^Ts to Dr. Eby — Dr. Eby's (.'(inference Addnfss - Re- turn Expanses —Subsetjueiit Demands Dr. Eby's Ki'sif;nation. ■VIII.—TlIK I{Kvrl:ST FoK PHALI First lA'tlcr from tlif Missionaries and Reply of the S.-civlarv -('om|s)sitioii of the CoUM- eil — Its Attitii If Tiiwarils the Roani -Ex- planations Aski'd For - Mr. Crummy Replies Nl Otli.'ially- Dr. Hutherlaml's Reply to Mr, Crummy -Slut.' of .Vft'airs in |M«9 — (.-'oiTiialHelations -Sisuls of Trojblo- Attack at Ueneral Conference Unexpijcted -Plan of Campaign— Mm. Large to be Implicated — I'AUK 13 Ifi 10 19 19-20 lU-23 22-23 23^30 30-36 30-40 40-53 Secii'tary's Statements at General Conference — Position Taken by the Mis.sionaries — Second I^etter fniiii the Missionaries — Reply of tile Executive -Furtl,er I.,«jttflr from the .Missionaries — Dr. Macdonald Resigns — Not .Vocepled by Executive — The Resignation Pressed -The Policy of Pressure —Dr. Mac- donald's Reasons for Resijjniiij; — Conclusions IX. Dk. -Macdonald A Pioneer in the Work — A Medical Mission- ary—His Fees, and How Disposi-d Of -How the Board I'mlei-stood It Dr. Macdonald Not "Out of Touch "—Why He D.«'s Not Preach Often — .\ Trusted and Inlluential Missionary — Who Raised the Issue — An Illej{.il .\ct Composition of ihe Council — Dr. Macdonald ^-ked to ( !ive I'p Medical Wiu'k -What Di- >lacdonald Has to Say - Why He Took Part of His Stipend from .Mission Fund Explanation of ('ouncil's Action — Dr. Macdonald's First Resijfnation — Dr. Macd')naldSu|M'rseiled Mr. Ciuumiy's liCtter — Dr. .Macdonald's Ex]ilari.ition — Heiusons for Superseding Dr. Macdonald — His Reply -Independent Testimonies -Let- ter of .Mr. Satoh l/ctler from •lapiinese .Ministers and Laymen -I^et ter from .Mr. Hiraiwa -Mr. Saunby's Statement -Extract from /CimhTH World — Ijctter from Mr. R. J. Kirby. X. — Til.; SiiizuoKA Ciiritcii Affair A Brief History -Dr. .Macdonald's Letter — Statement from .Mr. Hiraiwa .Vdditional Letter from Mr. Hiraiwa Letter of Dr. .Macdonald to .Mr Cassidy -.Mr. Cassidy's Reply — .Mr. Cassidy's LettiT to the Council -Some Mistakes C'oiie(;ted -More l>»>tt<.'r» from Dr. .Macdonald -Necessity for .\ction -Letter from .Mr. Hiraiwa. XII.- StKIFI; .\MoVr; THE M ISSIOXAIIIF.M . How It Began- -Factors in the Dispute — Precautionary .Measures liy the Woman's Couiiiil -What the .Men Tlioughi Ri-.solu- tioiisof .Mission Council \ Favorable Reply Not Expected What the Women Sidd Action of till' Home IvsLe.iitive ~Com|ilaint8 of the Woman's Council -.Vn Investigation Asked anil Refused The Women Are 1 displeased .\ Possible ( 'ompiiimise — Dr. Mai'dooald s Proposals .\n I'id'ortnnate Contrr-lemps Ai'tion of Woman s Council le Mr. Cassidy's l>>lter .Mr. Ciussidy's Rejoinder Mr t 'assidy Apologizes —How the Women Rei'iived it -Mrs. I.,arge Re- signs The Home ExeiMitive Considi'is the Situation -Conference lli'twi>en the Two Executives The Secrct.iry Seeks Informa- tion Dr. .Macdon.ilil's I/'tter The Strain Continues — Letters of Mr. McArthur — Liters of Mr. Elliott The (ieneral Boanl of IM'J.J — Statement by -Miss .Muiiro— Action of (ieneral Board and Executive — Ix'tler from Mr. (.'assidy — Fiirthe'' Action by tin- Exei'utive- Furthur Ixilter from Mr. Cassidy- -Ivt!tter from Mr. Hiraiwa. Summary and Coscll'sion Summary -Questions Answered. PAO^ 63-64 64-69 69-83 83-69 /f«