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THE 
 
 SENATE DEBATES 
 
 SIXTH SESSION-SEVENTH PARLIAMENT 
 
 No. 38 
 
 Monday, Q3vt\ March, 1896 
 
 THE SENATE. 
 Ottawa, Monday, 23rd March, 1896. 
 
 The speaker took the Chair at Three 
 o'clock. 
 
 Prayers and routine proceedings. 
 
 A PERMANENT INTERNATIONAL 
 TRIBUNAL. 
 
 MOTION. 
 
 Hon, Mr. BOULTON moved 
 
 Tliat tlie Senate is of opinion that the time luis 
 come when the consideration of the foiination of a 
 permanent International Trilinnal may witli a<lvan- 
 tage be entered upon, with the view of ufl'ording 
 tlie various nations tlie re(jui.site security and pro- 
 tection from a constant liability to the most costly 
 and destructive warfare. 
 
 He said : In bringing this motion be- 
 fore this House many hon. gentlemen may 
 think that I am taking a very advanced 
 position, that I am entering upon a new 
 subject that perhaps should not emanate 
 from a body like the Canadian Senate. 
 However, I hope to convince hon. gent- 
 lemen before I have got through that it is 
 quite proper, and quite in accord with the 
 principles of our constitution, that it is 
 quite in accord with the sentiments of the 
 Canadian people, and that it is quite abreast 
 of the times in bringing before the House a 
 subject of this character-. I may say that 
 one of the motives that I had in bringing 
 this subject before this House sprung from 
 the fact that I was brought into contact 
 with some open letterp, th.it v.ero published, 
 addressed to the Marquis of Salisbury, the 
 premier of Great Britain, and as hon. gent- 
 lemen know, were written by one with 
 
 whom we are all familiar, if not personally 
 at any rate we are all familiar with his 
 presence. He has resided in Ottawa a 
 great number of years, in fact I believe he 
 is a native of Ottawa, and has taken ad- 
 vantage of our library and of our reading 
 room in order to employ his time and 
 improve his mind upon the lines 
 that he has laid down for his own guidance. 
 Hon. gentlemen know that I am referring to 
 our respected friend, Mr. Monk. Mr. 
 Monk deserves great respect. Although 
 the appearance that he presents to the eyes 
 of the world is similar, we may suppose, to 
 the appearance of the savants of the ancient 
 times, yet notwithstanding all that, he is 
 one who is entitled to every respect, and 
 any opinion that he expresses on a subjnct 
 of this kind is entitled to respect by this 
 hon. House and by the country at large. I 
 may say that the deductions which he draws 
 in the letters which he has addressed to the 
 Marquis of Salisbury are the results of a 
 lifetime of study of the Scriptures and of 
 familiarity with the scenes in the holy land 
 connected with them, and when he presents 
 to us in the form of open letters that are 
 addressed "to the Marquis of Salisbury the 
 studies of a life in the way he has done, they 
 mark a new departure, I may say, in political 
 life. The letters to which I refer are essen- 
 tially political, in so far as they are addressed 
 to a great statesman and in so far as they 
 deal with political matters. In that respect 
 we are perfectly justified in dealing with 
 them from a political standpoint, and we 
 are, therefore, justified in discussing the 
 question as a political question. No one can 
 f,T.il to bf. struck with tho fact that what is 
 known as the Victorian era has been marked 
 by the most marvellous results of advance- 
 ment and progress, that the advancement 
 
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 iiml pidgrcss dmin;:,' the \'ict(ii'iaii era has 
 been nf sucli a i liaracter that it iiiark.s it as 
 a peiiiid (lislinctive in the history of the 
 world. And when we i'ec();,'nize tliat we 
 are upiiroafliintt towards tlie lerniination of 
 the N'ictorian era, wc have a rif,'lit to sum 
 up and see what is tile result of the 
 marvellous progress and development that 
 the world has seen durini; that era, and 
 how far iicfore its close an advance nuiy 
 be taken towards the consunnnation of 
 some definite object that has its results 
 ill greater benefits to niaiikind i.'encrally. 
 If pro;,'re-s and devclnpnient and civilizaliim 
 and christianily do not advance the interests 
 of mankind ami the nations of tlie world, 
 then it fails in its primary object, and in 
 discussing this question I take tliat as my 
 basis. T see, and we all see, that the 
 80vercij,'n whose name is attaclied to the 
 Victca-ian era has roif,'nc<i almost the loni,'cst 
 reign that has b(!en known oi\ the British 
 throne, and tliat her personal leign has been 
 marked by the highest state of Christianity, 
 of experience, of political knowledge and of 
 everything that goes to make a great iind 
 fine chai'acter, that she stands pre-eminentlv 
 before the world and .sets an example of all 
 the virtues which it is desirable that the 
 people of the world should emulate. Not 
 only the (^)ueen in her own life, Init in the 
 bringingupof her family and in herfamilvlife, 
 has shown an e.vaniple that we may imitate 
 from one end of the world to the other in 
 its simplicity, in the beneficial results that 
 her rule in her private family has exercised 
 upon those who have grown up around her, 
 who stand before the world as public ex- 
 amples of what a christian family may be 
 brought to, of what virtues they are able to 
 display and what usefulness and ad\antages 
 they are able to develop in the interest of the ) 
 nation to which they lielong Alongside of j 
 the <^)ueen we have the Hon. Mr. Gladstone, I 
 who is approaching theyeais of a centenarian 
 who has developed the highest type of chris- 
 tian development in his character, allied 
 with great political power, that modern his- 
 tory has shown us. Next to the Queen, who 
 has the greatest political experience in the 
 political history of the world, the result of 
 her long reign as .sovereign, and one who has 
 never neglected her duties as the liead of 
 the British Empire, ^Mr. Gladstone, I think, 
 stands next, and no matter how much his 
 opponents may have disagreed with him, 
 everyone will acknowledge that all his acts, 
 
 all tlie poi;. cal efforts that he has put 
 I forth, liave been guided from the highest 
 principles that are supjio.sed to emanate from 
 a christian charactei'. Then next to him we 
 have Loiil Salisbury, who is at the i)res(.nt 
 moment at the head of the Ibitish natitm as 
 ; its political guide and ruler, and he is the 
 representative of that i)liase of English 
 f.unily life that has for generations sent 
 forth men fitted to cope with the political 
 , (|uesiions that have brought the J?ritisli 
 Kmjiire to such great prominence, who have 
 by their training been able to maintain a 
 continuity of puhlic policy that has all led to 
 a certain end ; and their great experience, 
 : backed up by the support of the nation,' 
 essentially democratic in its instincts 
 ^ Ifackei! up by the intelligence of the nation^ 
 has brought (ire.it Ihitain to the highest 
 state of power and prestige that any nation 
 on the face of the earth has ever yet attained. 
 Co ()i)erating with him in the "liritish (!ov- 
 ernment is the Ibm. Mr. Chamberlain, who, 
 unlike Lord Salisbury brought up as one 
 of Hngland's aristocracy, has sprung from 
 thi' iiKlustrialchissesof Birmingham, and he 
 recogni/i'sin the policy that he is nowdevehip- 
 ing with regard to the extension of the world's 
 i commerce, with regard tr) the extension of 
 j the prestige and power of the British race, 
 he recognizes the j. resent day facilities for 
 I the interchange of trade and thereby the 
 multiplication of the advanta'.'es of (air civili- 
 zation to the advancement of the world, to 
 the benefit of the world and to the general 
 diflusion of prosperity throughout the world. 
 These comprise at the pre,sent time the 
 leading personnel of the Victorian era 
 as it is drawing to its close, and we 
 have to considei', as I said before, hon. 
 gentlemen, what is all this leading to? 
 What does it all lead up to? I am one 
 of those who thoroughly believe that we 
 are creators of destiny, that while we are 
 creators our-selves, while we have the power 
 of great creative faculties which is seen 
 on every hand, there is a power, a higher 
 power, that develops creative faculties in a 
 different way, ,ind I believe that we all are 
 endowed with that genius that will lead up to 
 and carry out the purposes of a greater 
 Creator in the purposes that he may have in 
 store for the world gt-norally. Now, I should 
 have mentioned in connection with Lord 
 Salisbury's name and the Hon. Mr. Cham- 
 berlain's name, another great name on this 
 continent, who probably has exercised his 
 
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intluctice in a nmrkerl direction, and that is 
 the Into PiTsident Lini'olii who stood at the 
 head of the Tnitdd Stiitcs nation and wlio 
 guidi'd th<' United Stale:. pcoph'throuuh t\\f'w 
 civil war bc^tween the years ISIIO and ISGL 
 He will always fank liij,di in history t'nr' llie 
 priiicijili^s he enuiioiated and for the faithful- 
 ness he displayed in eanyin!,' out those prin- 
 ciples. Thoseare pconiinentexainplesof ehris- 
 tian leaders of pid)lic inlluenee, leadin;,' their 
 natioiiH in the direction of paths that they 
 think they should he Ireadiiii,'. Now, lion, 
 gentlemen, it is within the \'ic't<irian era that 
 our railways ha\(' been developed, that (Mir 
 steam power has l)eend(!veloped, that our tele- 
 gra[ihs have been developed, tliat our electri- 
 city has been de\('loped ; it is within the 
 generaticni of these living men, some of whom 
 I ha\o referred to. All these have come 
 upon the world as new factors, entirely new 
 factors above all the factors of the centuries 
 and ages that ha\e gone past, anil tliesr,' 
 railways, teh'graphs and electricity and 
 telephones and all these mighty powers 
 have put us in a position to accomplish 
 what it was utterly impossible for the past 
 ages to have accom|ilished, what was not 
 within the ranjje of possibility fifty years 
 ago, and when we come to think that the 
 first railroad was projected on this conti- 
 nent, I believe in Boston, in 18i.'7, and that 
 the first steamboat crossed the Atlantic in 
 tlie present generation, that the United 
 States by themselves 1 believe have to-day 
 more railroad coiistructi(jn than all the rest 
 of the worUl put together, that Canada has 
 added its thousands of miles of railroad to 
 the interchange of trade, that the people of 
 Great IJritain own the vessels and the ships 
 and the navies wddch are greater than all 
 the rest of the world put together — at letist 
 if they are not perhaps greater than all the 
 rest of the world, they are \ery great and 
 powerful. It becomes iipparent that these 
 two English speaking nations, acting together 
 exercise a powerful influence upon the destiny 
 of the world. We come now to the subject 
 that I have undertaken to deal with, and 
 it is for the House to realize in what path 
 their duty lies. We all recollect how a 
 very short time ago the world was shocked 
 at the massacre of Christians in Arme- 
 nia. How it went forth that the Turks, 
 under Turkish misrule, were bringing de 
 struction upon a Christian population, one 
 of the most ancient Christian populations of 
 the world in that Asiatic province. Most I 
 
 people turned their eye.s to Great Britain to 
 
 put a stop to tliose massacres. Most people 
 thought it became the imperative duty of 
 the people uf Great i'.ritain and the I'.iitish 
 Government to enter, like the Crusaders of 
 ol<l, and put a stop to a condition of afl'airs 
 which was proceeding under Turkish rule. 
 I have no doubt that if conditions had lieen 
 such that the British (Jovernment could 
 have undcn'taken it without fear of rais- 
 ing a greater trouble and creating more 
 bloodshed, the spirit was thei'e and will- 
 ing to undertake the task, bu'. we im- 
 mediately observt'd specks upon the horizon 
 which showed a jealous spirit, or whatever 
 spirit it was, on the part of powerful tiations, 
 which acleil as a decidiMl check upon tJreat 
 Britain undtsrtaking the task. We saw that 
 in conseiiuenee of a minor dispute ovei- the 
 boundary of N'enezuela, the president of the 
 United States showed that there was a pos- 
 sibility of the United States making that a 
 aisun Mli. Then in another remote part of 
 the woi'ld, the Transvaal, in the interior of 
 Africa, we .saw that the Emjieror of 
 Germany was disposed to njak(! a c(Uiin 
 lidli with Great Britain th(,'re, and added 
 to thl^se was the jealousy among other 
 nations as to the advisability of jiermitting 
 Great Britain to get a foothold in Armenia. 
 All this o|)erated to permit a continuance of 
 the i)resent state of atlairs. (ireat Britain 
 was check('(l in any power that she might 
 liave possessed in redressing those grievances 
 and putting a stop to those massacres. Hon. 
 gentlemen will agree with me in saying that 
 it is most desirable that such a condition 
 should not continue to exist, that there are 
 certain tliine;s that arc due to our liuman 
 instinc liich should teach us that we liave 
 a duty u . I'l'form in order to remove any 
 obstacles t.iat may exist in the promotion of 
 such a worthy i)bject as was contemplated 
 during the last four or five months. The very 
 moment that the Iinjierial government was at- 
 tackedfornottaking that position with regard 
 to the Armenians, wliat was Lord Salisbury's 
 answer? "We must either act with the 
 nations or we must, act against them. VVe 
 cannot act singly and lay ourselves open to 
 be attacked by the nations in undertaking 
 a task of that kind and bring mor(! trouble 
 than we are trying to remove. Ff we cannot 
 convince nations that it is right that we 
 should go in and protect the christians in 
 Armenia, then we cannot undertake the task." 
 The object of establishing an international 
 
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tril.iin/il iH to iimkctli..svhnle,,ttlin nations re- 
 Npunsihlof,,,. the conduct. .fsuclicasosastliat 
 VMicn (ireut Britain foun.i that. Cpiniany 
 was minn'ml in oons,..|ucncpof tho Transvaal 
 incident, sh(! WHS tlirown into ,iii)lonii.fio 
 convspondcn,.,- with h'rancc and Russia 
 secint; that it was alwoluti-ly necessary in 
 ordor to carry out her |,..li,.y, which ia a. 
 policy of progress and (h'velopnient, dissemi- 
 nating; sound principles of Kovernnient 
 throughout the wlioL. world, and in ord(>r to 
 find allies she sou-ht then, in Russia and 
 trance showing the necessity of a trihuiud 
 of some kind, i-artial thoii-h it may he 
 Recent events of the past w,.ek or ten (hiys 
 have shown us a similar state of allairs 
 The Imperial Govcrmnent, which has for 
 niany years occupied Kfjypl fo.> the advantafje 
 of h.sjypt in its progr.vss and civilization, 
 to plant ni that ancient kingdom the 
 principles of ;L;uod -(.vernnient, tin(]s that 
 a new state cf allairs has arisen. Italy, a 
 weak nation has marched into Abyssinia 
 aiui has unfortunately been si-riously de- 
 feated to tile disturbance of the savage 
 tribes in the interior and it is not desirable 
 that tliose Miva-je tribes should bo allowed 
 to«et the upjier hand of one of the f<:uropeau 
 nations. It is not in the interest of civili- 
 zation, it is not ill th(! interest of the Christ- 
 ian nations of the world that anything of 
 the kind should be permitted. 
 
 -O. ~ 
 
 Hon. Mr. POWER-Does not the hon. 
 gentleman think he is using strong language 
 in characteiizing the Cliristian.s of Abyssinia 
 us savage tribes ? 
 
 Hon. Mr. BOULTON—I draw a distinc- 
 tion between Christians and heathens. T am 
 referring to the tribes of the interior They 
 are led by t\w Dervishes and are fanatical 
 to a flegree. 
 
 Hon. I\rr. POWER-The Italians have 
 not been fighting the Dervishes. 
 
 Hon. Mr. BOULTOX— No, but the 
 trouble has aroused the Dervis,.es in the 
 Soudan. I was not speaking of the Abys- 
 sinians, but of the Arabs in the .Soudan 
 district. The defeat of Italy was arousing 
 their enthusiasm and bringing them to the 
 front once more, in order to upset all the 
 progress and civilization that has been ac- 
 complished during the last 25 years, notably 
 the suppression of the slave trade and the 
 
 oponing up of commerce. It became neces- 
 sary for Eiij;laii(i once more, in the wisdom 
 of the liritiNh (.!o\ eminent, to open up the 
 Soudan, but without the support of the 
 nations of Europe she could not undertake 
 tlie task in conseipionee of her in- 
 ternational obligations in Egy[it and 
 she .sought the alliance of the 
 Dreibund, Italy, C'lmany and Au^tria, 
 who have supported her in undertaking the 
 I advances into the Dungola district and the 
 I Soudan in the interests of Egypt, and 
 jthe extension of the b(,un7laries of 
 I Egypt and for the purpose of extendin-' 
 Itho spreading of civilization in that 
 j region. No one can deny for „ne moment 
 I that It IS part of the duties of Christian 
 ; nations to difluse civilization as far as it is 
 ' possii.le for them to do so, to give heathen 
 nations in the heart of Africa and elsewhere 
 the advantage of knowledg.^ and progress 
 and to bring them under control, so "that 
 tiieir labour and their intelligence can be 
 ]>ut to the highest u.se instead of exactly the 
 !•(■ verse, as it is at the present momeint. 
 Iho advance of Italy, against those warlike 
 tribe.s, has shown the Italian people theditli- 
 culty they ha\e to contend with. Where 
 Creat Britain, backed bv her moral prestiae 
 marched into Abyssinia without firin.r "a 
 shot twenty-five years ago, Italy has suffered 
 severe losses. England has marched twice to 
 Kumassi, on the west coast of Africa, with- 
 out a shot being fired. 
 
 Hon. Mr. ALMON-- 
 
 first instance. 
 
 -It was not 30 in the 
 
 Hon. Mr. BOULTON-It wa.s, practically. 
 
 Hon. Mr. ALMON— No, indeed, vr 
 many shots were fired there. 
 
 Very 
 
 P.on. Mr. BOULTON-The first advance 
 was not quite without firing a shot, but it 
 was practically a peaceful advance, and the 
 last has been essentially so, and a very large 
 district of Western Africa will now be 
 brought within the influence of civilization as 
 developed by the Imperial Government wher- 
 ever It goes. These are all advantages that 
 cannot be lost sight of, advantages that are 
 sought for by advanced minds and advanced 
 thinkers on lines similar to those laid down 
 by our venerable friend, Mr. Monk, in his 
 letters to Salisbury. Hon. gentlemen know 
 that where there is union there is peace. In 
 
tlio past history ot' (ircut ilriinin, iipwdids li/c tliat il 
 
 if a tl 
 
 ic wiiild (lf|.ciiils ii|i(iii 
 
 itH 
 
 loiiMind yt'iiis a;;.), llicic wiis wliiu was i.'iibic (•oiiiiiiiiriication, it (lf|H'tiils iipoii 
 calli'd llin llciitaiciiy and IJiosi' Hcvfiii kiiii;- ' its iiowcrs to sail liic ,« 
 
 d. V^ery 
 
 Joins well' |ii'r|)ctually at war witii lacli 
 other. W'licii ihn iinioii was br'ou^jht ahout, 
 peace prevailed and pro;,'reHs and dcnelop- 
 iiiOMt followed. 'I'lieri, aaain. when Seotland, 
 Enj,'land and Ireland were separated, theri! 
 was disiMiioli and li;,diliiiL; ; when tliev lie- 
 canie united there was peace. It, was the 
 .same with India heforf) Kii;{|and stepped in 
 and planted th(^ hanrior of eivili/ation there. 
 The triiie.s (leeiinated one another, lheit« wa.s 
 perpetual lii;htinj{, and famines and disasters 
 w, .e of freipient oceurrenee. Within the 
 past two eentui'ies thai <,'reat popid.ition, 
 anuMintini.;' to ;iOO,000,(iOO people, has been 
 l)roui,'lit under tht^ rule of (ireat liritain and 
 now peace reii^ns within their horders, famines 
 are im]iossil)le and <{reat henefit.s are llowin;^ 
 from the development and |iroj,'ress that hasc 
 there takcin place in eonsei|uence of Itritish 
 powerhaviMf; planted its foot ilown and tinnly 
 and judiciously exercised control. In the 
 .sanies way, union in other parts of the world 
 shows the heneticent results that have (lowed 
 from it. The next point that I desire to 
 make in l)i-in(,'in,i,' this (|uestion before you 
 is to point out the destructiveness of wai- at 
 the present time. 
 
 Hon. .Mr. PHOWSE— We know that 
 
 Hon. .Mr. KUU LTON — I dare .say, hon. 
 gentlemen, you know that, but I hope you 
 will bear with me in order that 1 may'de- 
 velop, at any rate, what ideas I desire to 
 propound. 
 
 Hon. Mr. DEN'Elt— Give us the remedy. 
 
 Hon. Mr. IJOULTON— The hon. gentle- 
 man says we know that, but perhaps he 
 does not realize t', > full extent of the des- 
 tructiveness of V .a at the present day as 
 comjiared with wlui,titwasa (juarter of a 
 centUTy or half a century ai,'o. He does not 
 know, oi' he probably knows and does not 
 realize, the enormous amount of destruction 
 that can be wiought to-day upon all that 
 the W(jrld has created as compai-ed with half 
 a century ago. ft is when we contemplate 
 the tremendous destructiveness of modern 
 war engines that we can realize what an 
 advantage it woulfi he if conditions 
 could prevail that would bring those j 
 under control. Hon. gentlemen can rea- 
 
 with eomnierce, 
 that the llritish nation depends entirely 
 upon the importation of food from abroad 
 in order to support its ])o|.idation. The 
 people of this continent largely depend for 
 their means of sup|iort upon their power' ,ind 
 ability to tiansjiort tli.it food to rrrarkets 
 abriiiul. Ami so it is in connectiorr with all 
 the nations ; arrd if this commerce were 
 suddeidy brought to a stop, if our' cable 
 comirrunications wer'e cut oil', if pr'i\ateers 
 wei'e to destroy the eoirnr'erce, if our- canals 
 arul other avenues of commence were di-- 
 stroyed by dynairrite, our railways aiul 
 lelegr'aphs cut ulVand other' power's of des- 
 truction exei'cisiul, you can ser; how inrpor- 
 tant it is for us to consider the advisability 
 of bringing irirder' conlr'ol, in sorire way or 
 other', this t rcrriendorrs power in onli-r 
 that it may be aver'ted, in ordir' that 
 chaos rrray iio' rule, arni that t\w beiretits of 
 pr'ogr'ess and civilization during tht; 
 N'ictorian era may not be oblitei'ated as has 
 so often been the ease in the history of the 
 world, will n anci(>nt types of civilization 
 have courpletely disafipeiM'ed. Now, hon. 
 gentlemen, I will I'ead to you, so as to em- 
 body in this debate, the letter's that have 
 been addr'essed by .Mi'. .Monk to the Mjir-- 
 (pii.s of Salisbury, and to which I have 
 already referred. They are, I think, worthy 
 of consideration. 
 
 Several hon. MI-'.MIJEKS — Dispense! 
 Dispense ! 
 
 lion. .Mr'. P()WEU--1 think that is a 
 chestnut. 
 
 Hon. .M.VCDONALD (15.0.)— This is too 
 much. 
 
 Hon. Mr. U()L:LT()N - They are worthy 
 of being perpi'tuated in the annals of our 
 legislat ion^ 
 
 Hon. :\rr. DEVER— Better not -dis- 
 pense 1 
 
 Hon. Mr. BOULTON— These are open 
 letters to Lord Salisbury, and as such, tlioy 
 are political documents. .Although written 
 by a private individual, it does not make 
 any difference. They are ideas tlint are 
 worthy of consideration, and as such, are 
 worthy of a place in our Debates. Let 
 
6 
 
 / tlH.munror what th.-vui.. wurti,, hntdt ll...|l... u.ili/..,| .„,. ,1,.. «,•..„, |„.,„(li „, ,|,.. «,„M 
 / fmiiH' iiiiif, it lilt) liiiii. •iciitli mill liiuc rend I '^'■'"■i''l'.v ln'ii-iftcr. 
 
 Hi.'-o Uttttu'N, they will l„. niiniiiccd tlliltl "' "l"' l"iii'i|il'' '-f ••inl.iln.ii.Mi" u wlml tlu.y 
 
 tllflT is ,1 ;-r,.„t ,|,.,ll iH.llih.l llll'll, Mini that ' 'iVl'l '^ l'"""'; "' "''■ «''"'';"l'> "'l"l'l<'l. lIl'T.' U HO 
 
 S'ji ;•■"[':■" ■■- ■■'■ •" " '''p:<'"'"!'^^^^^^^ 
 
 or Hiiai is, I hi'licvi', iiii cjirncsi uhui, I'licv T' '"> "> 'ln" mmu'i-. 
 
 can, liy iio fiussiliiliiv, ilo anv liariii, anil | ^^' i"''' "hI.v m iii\iti' ilirm i,,r I.in,. mhIi 
 
 th.-v iiiMV .1'. - I. 'if tlirvaiv f.iiin.ird i '■ ^.';.^.■l nim, iil. ;,n,l will, ,,|| tlir ntiu-r 
 
 ;... ..„„,„,,„.:„,,.., i, i, i.,.,»ii.,:;::!!rfr;;;;:;::;";;;,;:;i:;,:ij:;,:i:;,i"::,;E 
 
 ni<7 <'an do any liann, and it tlicy aivi -'"dl ili..M,rl„iil, |,,iv.. n.. imiimi «h„t.vrr ,M,y 
 
 tuutidi'd ii|iuti wniiii; priiicipicx. still t hoy i '"'','',''■! " ' ^''i-"' d'l' ii^iMiiny i,, «Mifiii-... 
 
 fiiii do no h.iriii. i . '''li" 'nn.v viiy r,i«ily I,,. ,.,,., (ilisiicfi ikiw, 
 
 I Mliijily !•> iiiraiiyiiiu f,,: tin- |,MirliiiM. c,f I'iilcstiiif, 
 llnli. Mr, ^^A('!)nN.\LI) (I! (' I Ittlii-i" "" '"" I"'''*"'" '"liiiii.iviai vmImc. llial tlmt 
 
 Lorri Ndisluiry. I tliink that will s„tistV thei-nt f..r ,dl tl,.. I'nif.,! St.t,.s ,,f Aim. i,'u : ui'l u^ 
 House, and Wf will sue what lu" say^ ,ili.mi it, "t'»«" i" f">' "H 'i ■'■ ' •■ '•■ ■■ 
 
 linn llin 
 
 >if Ihr III,. 
 
 • lUilHll is f,,r 1,11 ill,, iiiiilril 
 Mlilliull of ( 'Mllllilil. 
 
 Il lUM'il mil nisi a liiiiiilniltli |iai-t, |icrlm|is not a 
 Hiiiiisiimltli pari, as imu'li as a Kicat war wiaiid 
 •list IIS, til iHiivhasr Piiic'stiiic am! make tliut 
 niMlilrv a I'aiailisf, w jirri- tlir IV|i|vs..|itativ..s of 
 all lialiuiis may iiifcl at slain! iiilrrvals, ami 
 '^liiisiih tiig-llai for III,. Iirsuvcllarrof tli.iwliole 
 Worlil, 
 
 Tin- millions ot |io\ ..riy siricUon ,l..«a woiiM of 
 roiir,c llorU loiliat laMinliy as woiiM also imihj. 
 
 tiiiirs troin "all nutioiis,- and tlir .linv-s woiil.l 
 
 up]H.iiiiiiiiv<.i'n.a<liii-ili..|ii, it' I h.-vliaviMiot I I. ?i'!'l7'''' ;■'■''■'''''''''■ "ri"',''''''' '"^"l''''- f'"' >li«>y 
 
 Brutally ....ad .1,...,, and . do not s.... t.i.. n.- ll^X'^^'i:::^,;;:^^^^^^^ 
 
 cessity ot rcadin,!.' th.'iii now, um... Kzikiil xxxvii, ili.-j;). *" 
 
 JFon. .Mr. HOlT/FON I d„ „„t want to 
 nnpos.i thcs,. lettors upon the lloiivf., if 
 hon. f,'ciiiloiiicii wish til dispciiMi. with ilinn. 
 
 Hon. .Mr. .VL.MON -^Kea.l tjii'in, 
 
 Hon .Mr. .McCI.KLAX -I hup,, the hon, 
 KcntU'iiiaii will not iviui th(. l(.tt«.r.s. I think 
 all th(. iiifiiihrrs iif ii„. Ilousi) havr had the 
 
 Jl.in. .Mr. Pin.MUOSK AVhy should not 
 Monk Ihi iiiiinortali/(.d hy haviiio tlu>ni in 
 our S(.nati. Dohatis .' 
 
 (Iiir nioili'i'ii railmails were also \,.rv ih-aily 
 torrioM, .■ Kvi.ry vallry shall 1,,. ..sallnl, ami ..vcrv 
 Mi'iiiiilaiii am! hill shall lir ma.lr low, ami thu 
 'iniiUnl sliall !,.■ mail,, stiaiylit, ami tli,. roii,'!, 
 lilairs [ilaiii : ami III,. j,.|orv of tlir honl .hall he 
 
 Hon. .Mr, IK )l 'i;r().\_-_lt is ,n,i a ,iu,'s. I "■'"•"':''• ■""'.;'," "•''I' ^'l'.'"' *t. ii t.i-i.ih,,." It is 
 
 wi::!;::';i'' '''''': '^ti »- i.n,no,taLedir:::;::'L!;rt!;;.t: t:^'t:;!':,i;:::!:Ci::l 
 
 by having them in tlio l),.l,at..s, but T ,.laini ; thf wonls j„st t,.,l ; of ,.o„i,s.. also it i.s th,. rail 
 
 uiy nyht, as a in..nd)(.rof this Jloiis,., toroad i",'['l-^ iH"! tilifiraphs airoinpanvinK them wliioh 
 a pnhlic docuinoiit. Tf hon. i',.nth'ii.en iirc- )* , '"idili. ''all ll.sh to .sw it toKi'tlar." wlun 
 f.T that th,.y shoul.l 1,,. phi,...l in th,. l)e- i,im::;^'i;i,i;!.,:!r ''*''■'' ^'"'' '■'■"""'■•'' '''''''''^ 
 bat,.s an,l th,. ivadm- disp,.ns,.,l with, T am ' . It is v..ry ivmarkalil,. also thai ii is al this par- 
 
 tiiular tiiiR. (whi.i, railroails aiv foivtohl as l„.c.om. 
 liig niiivi'isal over the whole ..artli): that the 
 Aliiiif;lity ,.alls upon all the nations of Chrisiemhiiii 
 til " eoinfort ■■ tliu millions of [lovii t y striekeii 
 
 satislit'd. 
 
 Hon. .ME.MBE]{,S— Xo, no. 
 
 Hon. .Mr. i!OCLTON~I think, th n, I 
 will I'f.ad ihom. 
 
 Hon. .Mr. .'.^COTT— Lot them be printed 
 as r,.,i(l. , 
 
 Hon. Mr. IIOULTOX— I read letters to 
 tlie M a iiju is of Salisbury, British Premier :— 
 
 ()tt.\\v,\, Can.Mh, 
 
 L'4th Deecmher, I. SSI,"., 
 T(i Tin: Mua.iiis or S.M.isiirav, 
 
 I'.urnsll P-iKMlKK. &c. 
 The present attitmle of the United .States I'ov- 
 erninent towar.ls the Itritish, mav he j.erham .a 
 proviiiential cireum.staiiee, whieh n'liglit now easily 
 
 .lews, "Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith 
 ymir (;oil. .Speak ye eomfortal.ly to .lenisalem, 
 1111,1 ery unto h,.r.that her warfare'is aironiplisheil 
 that her ini,|iiity is panlom-il : forshe hath re,.eive.i 
 at the honl's h.iml lionlile for all her sins." ^[saiah 
 XI. !••_'. 
 
 ■Mure than ei^'hti'en centuries have alr,a,ly 
 passe.l away sin,-,, the tinal lU'strurtion of .leni.sa- 
 lem liy 'liins, ami there were lint alioiit ..ifjliteen 
 ■centuries from the .lays of the jiatriaivhs, Alirahain 
 Isaac ami .)a<-ob, to the time of the ilestniction of 
 .leiu.saleni ; coii,s(.i|iieiitly the .lews have alreaily 
 '•reeeiveil ilonlilc for all their sins;" ami the 
 nations of Christi.mloin are now most emphatically 
 call,;,l upon liy their "Coir'to " .■omfort ' the 
 millions, ,f poverty-stricken Jews, who foreiL'hteen 
 centunes have l.cen sulijcteil to the utmost 
 injustice ami cruelty although it was hy the 
 
rniMiNi I'tfciitH mill Nrll'^ariilhi' nt iii.iiiv I Imiii-uimN lliiihii-, nf imw riillril ii|i<<ri In ilu lliiir iiiiiKxt In 
 (it tliitl ili^viili'il nii'i', tllllt < III isliillllty Uiln lil'fit Irilli/'i' III lilH r '•II tllHlli'ilMiil.iliIti Itll aiU.tiihmi' (iir 
 llltliiilllrl'il KIhI I .-itillilHlll'il ll|lllll I iil'lll, I " 'ill IMtillllM." 
 
 'I'llr wlliilc lllllv III lllllll I'inlii lllix tillll! Ill'llrc , 1 1 !'• jil'l llH|ii aliulll i'i|llillly ill<li"|lllt'llil<' ilUii I lull 
 t'liilli. h tiiiiiMii'il III viry ti'« Hi III I.I UN fullutts ; ' llir |iic«iiil IjiiH- ami iIh' |in".i'iil liii'iiiiiitMiicc-. of 
 " Hr li nil iliiiwi'il lli'i', 1 1 lllllll. wliat Ih t^iiii'l ; Mini i iIk' ii'ilinii'i ui iK'iiilly. l>ii|i|M II III III' wiinili'itiilly 
 u ImI lllllll llir liiiiil l('i|iliri' lit tliri'. Iiiil III 'III |ii>tly, tavuiiiiilili' fur lln' jliilnriliali' iiilinilili'l jnii iii|i| 
 ami 111 liiM' iiit'i'i'y, iiinl i" walU liiiiiiMy v\ilii tliy j 'll'i'i'tiiiil I'^lalili'.liiiii'iit of kihIi a |ii'i'iiiiiiii'iii IiiIit. 
 (ioil." Mli'iili \ I, H, {iialiiiiial ii'iliiliial : iIki iliiri' tlii' lliili-.|i I'l 'iiiirr 
 
 Sill 111 111 till' iialiiilM lit Clili'-lriiiliilii imw lii'^jill In I « ill ri'ltiiilily In' ilirM'I'^iilili' '(Imillil In l|ii« tall l"i 
 exd'clH' " jiiMtii't' ainl iiii'ii'y. ' us ii'i|iiirril nf iim liy I ml in tiiMiiir nf hm ln'iicliiiiit a |iiir|iii-r, in iiiii|illy 
 tmr rii'iilnr ! till' Imiu |iiiilii'liil niilli'iniiiiin nf ami faillitiilly, in iirrniilaiiri' w illi IiIm'V i'lriil liiiiy 
 iiciiri', |il'iix|ii'l'ity ami lia|i|illirsM, wiHiniinrilialily in hi" I iml, a^ Wi'll a» In lii> iniiiiliy, ainl in IiIh 
 
 iiciiri', |ii'iix|ii'i Ity ami li i|i|illi 
 tiiigiii tn ilawii ii|iiiii till' I'arll 
 
 l''aillifiilly yniil'<, 
 IIkmo \Vi, vTWi 
 
 II MiiSK, 
 
 I'. S, 'I'llr .lllllsllUlrr nf llll' lliallrl' iw llli», 
 
 iiinili'in |iiiij,'i't'ss liaviiiv'alii'Hily liiiiiii.'lil all iiatinii'* 
 sn I'lnsi' Injii'llii'i- prai'l irally, I lial I liry rail linw 
 iMsily ili'^lriiy raoli iillicr ami ili'wilatc llic wlr '•' 
 wnilil uilliiii a fi'W iiiniitliM ; a |ii'i'iiiani'iil iiilii 
 ti'i'iialiiiiial ti'iliiinal i\A\ cviilrntly lit'rniiii'N an 
 iiiili-priisalili' nrii'wily. Till' fnrr'.'iiint; Iclli r in 
 
 fi'llnwiiiail ill v'l'nt'ial, ii|iii|iilii' |iii'-iiil i^iiiiiiriv 
 ini|iiirhint orcaHinn. 
 
 'I'Ih' M'-llll nf Kiii'li |iiiiiii|il, taillif .1 .uiil lainrnt 
 arlinll i,K ili'sililnil ill till' fiil|ii« inu Wii|i|» : " Willi 
 
 lialli III ai'il iiii'li a tliiiiu'.' »liii liatli x'l'ii xiirli 
 lliiiiL'"'.' Shall tin rirlii lii' iiiaili' In litiiii,' tm'lli 
 in niir iliiy '.' Ill' sIih',1 a iiatlnii Ih' linvii at mn'i'? 
 fur an snnii a- /inn I ia\ ailiil, «lii' lilnii).'lil fnitli lli'l' 
 I'llililli'ii. ' l-aiali K\i. H. |'"n|- "a nalinii" inlil- 
 |iii'«'i| nf ••a;il'iat iiiiill iliiilc " nf ( 'lil'Istiails ai Wi'll 
 aH .li'Wx, all niiiiLrlt'il inui'tlici' as niic |ii'n|iK', 
 
 inili-pnisalili' ii.'.i'»MI,V. I lir tnii'.'nint; l.'ll.r "^ ^,,„||,.,,.,tfr 'Mil iMlimiH/'wniilil h,|,|i|,.,iIv ai.iirai' 
 
 ''"■^V,",'"''^' '■''"'';■ ^ I"'""'"' '"'''"I" ■;' ' i„ I'ali.Min.', Hliin llial iiliv iHa.i','pti;i liv tli.. 
 
 rslalillsliln'' a sall.itartniN ami L'l'lii-'iallV ari'Cplalilr 
 
 " T ■ ' ■ •; T i'"l i' ' 1 lialiniiK Limriallv. a> I ho filtiur uicat ami i/lm inll,t 
 
 p,.|'li,:,l,i.nt IMl.'lliallniia lilliiinal lias.il "I"",', i ,,,,,i,„| „t thi' wl'inh' umlil. Thns - .hall 1 hr .'all li 
 tht Miilnl tiiiimlalinns nt '• |ii-liri' ami incri'y : 
 tlirirfnir nIiihiIiI l.iril Salisliiiiy lii' iiiiw .111 prai'ti- 
 rally faviuialilc In llii.s td'aiul projci'l, as to iiniin'- 
 
 iliatrly llll lii.H part tnwanls I'llfi'tinj,' its airmii 
 pli>lniii'iil, nIhci'M will ilniilitliiss .sunn ilii llicir 
 part alin. ami tliiis ^c'liii' llu' iiiunI liriii'lirial ri' 
 suits pii-silili', fur till' liiiinan family jicin'rally lintli 
 now ami hil'cafirr aUn. 
 
 l^'aitlifiilly yniiis, 
 
 lllAUY \\l:\ rUiiKTII \lnVK. 
 
 Ill' inaili' In 111 illy fiiilli III niii.' ilay."as it wi'in ; ami 
 thus "shai a nalinii 111' linrn at niicr," as was so 
 rh'iirly pii'ilii'lcil t liiiii>amls nf yi'ars aun. 
 
 Why sliiiiililii't till' l!rili-h I'ri'iiiiif sui.'>;i'st tin,' 
 iniini'ilialc rstiililish' ■ m of smh a piiiiiaiii'iil 
 inti'i'liiilinlial triliniial ill tlir I'liili'il Stall's ( inv- 
 criiiiiciit, lis Mi'llastn all tlir nllii'i' ju'iivi'iiiini'lits 
 with whirli thr jirltisli I'aiiplri' I-, in I'niistaiit cniii- 
 iniiniratinn. Whrllu'r any nf t lii'sr ynvcruinriits 
 arc ininifiliati'ly fa\niiralilr in smh a siiiiyi'^tinii, nr 
 whi'tlirr ihcv hrsitiiti^ 111' iifiisi' tn aiKni'ati' any 
 Hum. Mr. AI.MOX WnuM tllc l,on. ' ■•''''I' P'^inaimnt inti'inatinnal tril.nnal ihr Ihilisli 
 
 IrniH'i- s aitli'ii ill tin' Inattrr Wnlilil rallsi' tliu 
 
 goiitlciniiii re.'ul Lmil Siilishufy's ffjily to 
 tlmt f 
 
 ■ pirslinii In rniiii' fairly lii'furi' llii' Mnrlil, ami a>,'i- 
 latiiili anil ilisi'Us>inli nf thr siiiiji'rl wniiM not 
 era SI' until till' iiirstiiiKilili' lii'iiflit shmilil lie rralizcil 
 at la-l. 
 
 Till' illrlii>i'il Hull' pillllphlrl, •• Thl- I'liiplr ami 
 
 Oi'T.iw \, Cam AHA, 
 
 :!Otll Dirillllii'r, ISII;-). 
 
 Hon. Mr. liOULTON— Tllllt has not I.ei'ii 
 
 pubiishetl. Tlicii tlicfo is ;i Icttof, dfitrd , ,, ,. ... i i- ,■ i • . , ■ .i 
 ;,,, in I . .1 ■»! ' 1' lj 1- 1 lint-' I 'illi'V, IS I'iili'iilali'il 111 lu'ijiii In "npiii the 
 
 .SUtii Doi'pml.pr, to tli.! Miu'iiuisot .Siihshury, i .y^,,- j |,^„|,,^. ,„ ,,„. ,,,.j,,,.,„ ,,„,,„,,,,., „,■ ..ur 
 
 Tliat letter, wliicii is siiniiiii' in tone lii the ' (Vcutnr, sn Inn^; a;.'n plainly fnntolil, ami now 
 foniier one, is as follows :— aitiially fnllilh'il in a nuisiili ralilc I'Mcnt. The 
 
 cfrt'itive pulilicatinii nf smh a paiier in the 
 l.iiiiiloK Tillll X nr otherwisi', niiyht ti'iiil tn aw alien 
 many to ri i ni)..riniisiii'ss nf ihi- *' rxeecilin^ ;;ri'at 
 reHiinl " iinu u itliin the rearli nf man imli\ iiliially 
 ami natinii ally. Perhaps Lmil Salisliury iniilil run- 
 liive In have this ilniie aUn, ami thus let the jmlilie 
 ilisi'iiss the siilijeet thnrniiL'hly. ami sn prnve its 
 truth anil edrruetiiess ; nr slmw wherein it is false or 
 erroiii'oiis if tliev eaii. 
 
 My nlil frieii'd, W. Mnlinaii Hunt (the well. 
 kiinwu artist. I Drayeott Lodge, {''iilhani, Loiiilon, 
 S.W., who has known nie fur more than forty 
 years, eoulil supply yiMi with a nuiulier nf other 
 papers, ami any further information that might 
 • iiis^ilily interest you upon sueh sulijeets, should 
 
 To ihf .\lari|uis of S vi.ism m , 
 
 jiiitish I'rL'iiiier. .te. 
 
 It is imlispulalile that a perinanent inteinalioiiiil 
 tiiliuiial irepresi'iiting the iiiiwer of the whole 
 wnrlili wniilil lie of the utmost lieliefit to the 
 wlinli.' huiiian family ; for such a triliuiial would 
 iiatur.iUy aliolisli warfare, ns it w<iulil simply he 
 inadiu'ss for any one nation to defy the roniliined 
 power of the whole world. 
 
 It is imlisiiutalile alsn thai the fnremnst natinn 
 of the earlii shmilil lie the first tn take a leadiiifj; 
 part in advoeating in earnest such a jieruianeiit y •' leipiire it 
 international triliunal. tn rescue mankind frnni the 
 inealeiilalile evil of warfare henceforth. 
 
 It thus lieconies imlispulalile also thatthe British 
 people in general, and the liritish I'leniier in par- 
 
 l-'aitlifully yours, 
 
 1 1 i; M i N- W I . N T W O I IT II .\ 1 N K . 
 
Tlien the Insb letter isdated lltli .laimary, 
 and is as follows ; — 
 
 Ottawa, Canaha, 
 
 Ulli .luniuiiy, ISiXi. 
 till' Maii|iiis (if SAi.isiiiin , 
 
 liritisli I'lutiiiir, &o. 
 I lie r.ritisli liaviiiir now iiiiiiiit'csti'il a I'ciidine.ss 
 t<i ilcfciid tlK.'iji.solves iij,'iiiMst iuiy iiatidii, or nil 
 Iliitioiis if iicc.ssiiiv, it Mlicly woiild 1,1- well, in 
 the int.Tiiii l„foiv the war spirit a-aiii cUrlarcs 
 itstilf to taki' ailc(niatc iiicasnrcs to avcit tlir j^'rcat 
 oidaiiiity of warfare, which certainly appcaTs to 
 tlircatcii the forcMiosi nalioiis ii]iori' eartli. It is 
 evideiil <.noii;;h that nothing less than a supreme 
 antliority can now possihly rescaie tlie woild from 
 the constant h'ahilily to very costlvaml fatal wars. 
 I lie (|iiestion is, how can snch a, supreme antliority 
 Ijossihly he estahlished amoiii; -'all nations ■'■•• 
 lliere IS really no L'leat dillhidlv whiitever al.ont 
 this matter: foril ncedsonly Ijiat the most power- 
 tin nation upon earth should act \n accordance 
 with the divine purpose, as is so clearly and dis- 
 tiiictly declared in reference to this particular time 
 and to the presiTit circumstances of the world : 
 "In that time shall the present he lir(ui{j;lit unto 
 the l,(Md of hosts, of a people scat tered and peeled 
 and from a people lerrihle from their l.e-inninL' 
 
 '""'^■'■'''■, I" the place .,f the nanie'-of the 
 
 l-ord of iiosts. the nionnt /Ciou." Isaiah w jii, 7 
 "Thephurof the name of the Lord of hosts! 
 the 111. unit Xioii," means ol c(uirse " the land of 
 Israel, or I'aicstiue; and the '• people scattere.l 
 and peeled, arc of <'oiirsc, the millions of povcrt v- 
 strieken dews: while the Ihitish are the "pioii'le 
 terrihle from their liei/iniiinfr hitherto," for no 
 nation has yet proved itself more terrihle or power- 
 ful than the liritish pi.oplc; <'onse(|iiently the 
 Uritisii have hut to interest themselves in earnest 
 in restoration of the inillions of poverty-stricken 
 Jews to Palestine, and then that one country upon 
 earth (hem.; thus estahlished hythediieexerci.se 
 of •' pistne and iiicrey ") will naturally hccome the 
 future .apital of the whole world, aiid all that is 
 most excellent upon earth will also then naturally 
 flow to that country, insomuch that thenceforth 
 the supreme authority (destined to rescue "all 
 nations from the constant dahility to the nio.st 
 oostly and fatal warfare,) wili he f.uind i,, I'.des. 
 tme, " the liin.l of Israel." 
 
 This hciiif,- in.lisputahly as here sl,-.tc.l, the 
 hntisli I'rcmier, and the Hritish ( Joverniueiil have 
 only to refer tlie matter to the Mritish Parliament 
 an. to the liritish pe,,plc, for their ac(,niescenoe 
 an.l apiirova! ; an.l invite, at (he same time the 
 government an.l people of the L'nite.l States of 
 America, ,an.l all the otli,.r nations of ( 'hristeiuhmi 
 also, to jcuii them in such a piaiseworthy work of 
 •.lustice and iiierey," and then the "universal 
 nghteoiis ^'overnment of " th.. Kin^'.hmi of (iod" 
 may thusat oncchejiin to prevail upon earth, as 
 «i) long ago pi'c.lictcd. 
 
 Kailhfiilly yours, 
 
 lliixin- Wi;\TW(iHTii .Monk. 
 
 I'..S. -The iudisputahly true and correct inter 
 pretation of a p.irtion of "The U.^vejati'm " i" 
 inclose.i, that i..ir,l .Salishnry ami his advi.ser.s 
 iiiny have the opportunity to see clearly enoie'li 
 
 that 1 .s|)eak with the .■onfidence ami authority of 
 one uho understands thoroughly the puri.o.se.s of 
 the Almighty, as .hrlare.l in the symholieal 
 language of "The Revelation." 
 
 HkM!V WKNTWoliTII Mo.VK. 
 
 Ottawa, Canada, 
 
 I4th .(aiinary, IslHi, 
 
 Now tliose af(> view.s that the luoi-e they 
 are ooiisidpi'ed tlie more will they he re- 
 spected. However iiiueii we may tl'iink they 
 ;iro in advaiiec of the imblic thoii,i,'lit at this 
 time, yet we cannot but respect the .senti- 
 ments that are therein expressed. As 
 nations have combined in union for the pur- 
 ipo.se of jieacefully developini,' llit* resources 
 1 within their bounds, for the jiurpose fif tak- 
 ■ iiiij their jiart in the advancement of our 
 jCiiristiaii civilization. Mr. :\ronk lay.s down 
 j the broad principle that in a similar manner 
 , the various nations of the Christian world 
 can form tliemselvps into a new n;ition with 
 the capital in Palestine, Such a union is no 
 inoreutopianthantheconfedcrationof British 
 North America was no doubt at one time 
 declared to be -than the consolidation of 
 the I'.ritish Hmpire is declared to be to-day 
 in the interest of peace and progress. That 
 union of nations is being gradually devel- 
 ojied now and at the jiresent mon'ient we 
 hiive the very best evidences of it, as 
 1 have said before, in the foriuati'in of al- 
 liaces such jis the Dreilnmd, and other 
 illiJinces which are perptjtually taking place 
 
 and perpetually changing again. It 'is"only 
 an extension or a iiermanency ..f that same 
 principle that is here sought to bedevelojied 
 and in that respect it can very pioperly 
 commend itself to the wisdom of hon. 
 gentlemen who conipo.se the Senate of 
 Canada. So far as Canada is concerned, she 
 has a direct interest in anything that will in- 
 sure her possible develo])iiient and progress. 
 We tire peculiarly situated, more so perhaps 
 than any other nation, in ,so far as we have 
 a frontier between our own country and the 
 neighbouring country of 1,000 miles, that on 
 each side of this frontier are situated cities 
 and commercial inteiests that in the case of 
 a destructive war would be .atirely or very 
 largely destroyed. We should always be 
 prejiared to stand at the back of tlui people 
 of the llnited States in upholding that 
 which IS right, but at the same time we 
 must always be prepared to defend the 
 integrity of our own country. T have no 
 fear as to the ultiraati^ result in case of an 
 attack, though 1 am happy to think there is 
 
 \ 
 
\ 
 
 not much likelihood of it. I believe : i.-tMud iny a imtinuiil ((iiifiiviuc, to lie liclil at 
 that Ciinadiiins liavo the ability to flefond I ^^''■*'''"^''"" '''>'. «n W ((iMcsilay uiid Tluiisdiiy, 
 themselves, and if our country should ever ' ''^'"''.' ■--"'''"'" -•'ii'i mcm, i" .•xpicss ilu,. j-enend 
 be attacked we woul.l not only w.tlun our- 1 ,„ ,|„,,„,iiv ,„.„vi,U.,l foH.y tl,. ,.r!,p'.r ,.mi;;:,iti,.H 
 selves be able to sliow our capacity for self ; and with tlic most coilipi-elifiisivi; a|i|.lio,itioii 
 defence, but would be backed u]) by the i l"'"'''^"'''''^- bnilatimis have liecn sent to \v\nv- 
 power of the British Enii)ire, and there can ! '"/''^'^''^'-'f invs|K.,tiv,. of ,,a.iy o.ciec.l, in ..v.ry 
 
 be no doubt as to what the ttiti.nate result ^ ::::::ci:;;u:zi.z il:;ulc":f ro,5:' r;:!;;:;;;;: 
 
 woiild bo. But whde we may have that taUinas a j,'f al hasis of imnilicis ainl apiiortion 
 
 feelinLC of confidence in ourseKes and of the !'".'!'*: 'I'ln' lall ipails : •• .X-siiiniiii,' you .sliai-f our 
 
 powiM' of the i^lorious ('ini)ire to which we 
 belong, yet there is that absolute knowledge 
 that in the progress of war where the pas- 
 sions of ni(>n are aroused and where destruc- 
 tive engines of war are brought to bear, it 
 would be utterly impossible to ])revent the 
 devastationof everything weliaxc'reated and 
 develojicd during the past half century, ad 
 our neighbours would suffer in the .same way. 
 The .same power that they possess to 
 come over here and destroy cities and 
 towns and public works in our country, 
 would enable us to cross the border and (lo 
 
 the .same thing on their side, and, therefore, ,„„„ ,1, ,,;..■ 
 
 1 ■ " ., i^ • . . , ^' I iil«iii the altaliiiiu'iit ot a iicniiaiunl system lie 
 
 having a coimiiunity of interest m that res- 1 twwu the two .''''■iit Kn-lish 
 
 hi'lief as to the impoitaiici' of the emi proposiMl, we 
 I ilceiu it iimujc'cssary, in this r.iiiimuiiicatioii, to 
 
 enti'i- into an cxtciiilcil slatcmciit on the siilijcct. 
 : By repeated iiets, as well as Ijy r'ep.-aled deejara- 
 I tioiis, our ^'ovennneut has appeared liefore the 
 
 I world in advocacy of inteniati d arliilralion as a 
 
 , niea.sure coiiformidjly to our own interests and 
 I genius, o- iu.stitutious, as well as to the cause of 
 
 general pistiee and eivili/ation. To tliis etieet, 
 i patriotism, philanthropy, statesmanship aiul re 
 i ligion have spoUeii as with one voice. In conlining 
 
 till! pr'csent uiov<>menl to tlie pronidtion of arliitra- 
 i lion lietwcen the I'niled .States and Crcat Ihitain, 
 j we aic not luu'oncerueil for widei- application of 
 I the |>rinciple invohed. liul taking int<i consider- 
 I at ion the iuiporlance and value of practical I'esults, 
 I it seen led wise to concent r.ite <uir innnediale elTorta 
 
 pect, and, as the destruction would be 
 mutual, that the good sense of the peojile 
 wlio speak the same lai ','eand are sprung 
 from the loins of the .saiiK .latioii, should look 
 upon that result with e(|uaniiiiity, I cannot 
 believe, and it need not be regarded as a fac- 
 tor in the national progress of this continent, 
 which is likely to move on a higher plane. 
 Then; has been a movement in Great 
 
 peaking peoples.'' 
 The signatures attai'heii ale those of lifly leputalili: 
 
 citizens of Washiugt \ew Vork, I'l'iiiadelplna. 
 
 r.oslon. New Orleans, , St. I.om's, and othei- cities. 
 .\nioiig the sinners are : Of Washington Melville 
 \V. Kullei-, .Nelson A. Miles; of New Vork, .Setli 
 bow, Doitnan li. Katon, Alirani S. Hewitt ; of 
 Chicago, Ocorge I), Swift, .Marshal ImcM. Potter 
 P;duier ; of lioston, Charles W. l-llliott, William 
 K. Hussi'll, Koliert 'I'rcatpaue : Charles l^'iancis 
 Adams; .lames Cardinal (lilphons, of I'.altiiiKne ; 
 ■"imothy Dwight, of 'S'ale I'niv eisil v : Charle!* 
 
 Britain, and there lias been a movement in ! "'"Ili^.v Wariu'i, of ll.utfonl. ((uin. 
 the United States on the same lines that I ' That information, which is conveyed to us 
 am laying down here to-day. Hon. gentle- 1 in the press, shows that other people are 
 men will recollect that a deputation came Uvorkiiig .scmiewhat on the sLme line. Pro- 
 over from Great Britain, com])osed of a i bably the gentlemen who are interested in 
 number of members from the House of. that movement in the United IStates are 
 Commons, and pres(>nted a petition, signed [ taking a more practical view of the question, 
 by a very large number of meinber.s, to j than T aiu presenting under the principle of 
 initiate the principle of arbitration between I a more extended interiiati(mal tribunal 
 these two great natitms. The j)rogre.ss of i as being more within the range of practical 
 II" happy to say, shows I politics at the iiresent iiKuiient. but the very 
 
 .. ._ .1 T . j: 1 . . . 1 . nil' . . 1 . ,. . . ... . <' 
 
 that idea, 1 
 
 signs of vitality, and I see of late that a call 
 has been issued for the purpose of calling a 
 meeting from all over the United .States, in 
 order to develop still further that idea. I 
 will read a telegraphic despatch dated 
 Washington, 18tli March — last Friday — as 
 follows : 
 
 W.vsiiiMiTON, IStli March. -In view of the fact 
 that a, wiilespri.a.d. desire ha.slieen manifested. Imth 
 in the United States and (ireat I'.ritain, for the 
 f.stahlishinent tietween these two eountric's of u 
 pennancnt system of arliit ration, a call has been 
 
 fact that a powerful community like the 
 United ."States art> calling together from every 
 state in the union delegates for the |)urf)ose 
 of di.scussing the very principles which I am 
 now laying before this House, shows that T 
 am not out of order or out of place in bring- 
 ing up this matter here. It shows that we 
 in Canada are supporting the ])eople and 
 government of (;reat Britain in every effort 
 that the Imperial (iovernmeni is making to 
 dispense the blessings of civilization and 
 Christianity throughout the world, and that 
 
10 
 
 the [)eojile of tjic United States ate working 
 on th(3 siiiiic lines. Jlon. gentleinon will 
 ajuTPi' with nie when 1 say that it hecomos 
 the cluty of all njition.s to try an<l brinj,' under 
 contrr)! heathen nations of the world in order 
 that tJK^ beneiits of our eivih/.ation niav 1)(> 
 extended to them, ni order that the genera- 
 tions that ai'e springinj; from their loins year 
 after year and eentuiy after eentury may 
 reeei\e the advantages that we enjoy. That 
 can otdy he done by the steps that are now 
 being taken by tlie jjeople of the mother lan(h 
 Great Britain is the only one nation which 
 appears capableof a(.'eoinplisliing that purpose 
 with themost peaceful results, tliat is to say, 
 the moral [Mjwerof tlie Imperial Government 
 such that siie is al)le lo bring heathen tribes 
 under control with a less loss of life than 
 apparently other nations can do. She has 
 the spirit and the; means within the British 
 Empire to accom|)lish it. There is no doubt 
 about it that the IJritish Empire, of which we 
 as well as England have the honour to form 
 a piirt, and no inglorious part, shines outlje- 
 fore the world as the foremost nation through 
 the younger nations that have been born 
 through the enterprise of hei- jieople, and has 
 developed ;isti-ength greater than any other 
 empire that the world has ever known, a 
 strength greater tlian any other nation has 
 ever shown. The wisdom of the statesmen of 
 Great Britain keeps abreast of the times. 
 There is no new movement, no advanced opi- 
 nion that is brought before the world, no 
 nuitter how humble its source may bi;, but it 
 is turned over and discussed on its merits foT' 
 the benefit of the liritish Empire and for the 
 beneht of the world at large, and therc'fore 
 I humbly submit that althougli the views T 
 have been expressing, and tlie sources from 
 whicii I have drawn those views, veryhirgelv 
 are such tliat lion, gentlemen may not be 
 prepared to accord that consideration to 
 them that perhaps 1 have given. Yet I 
 hope that they will not think that they are 
 unworthy the time and attention that I am 
 now bestowing ujion them. The only profes- 
 sion I can lay claim to is that of a soldier, but 
 that profession is not incompatible at all with 
 a desire for peace. I am not one who would 
 advocate peace at any price. I thoroughly 
 appreciate the words that Mr. Goshen 
 introduced in his speech lately, that he was 
 ready for arbitration, hut woe betide the 
 nation that was unable to back up their 
 principles by tlieir own physical power, and 
 I think that we, as Canadians, have a right 
 
 to take such stqps as are desirable to defend 
 '■ our own country, to maintain our own in- 
 I tegrity and to stand side by side with 
 the 15ritisli nation in upholiling the honour 
 of the empire, .so far as our limited means 
 will jiermit us to do it, and it is only by 
 ' means of that kind that we can attain 
 respect ; but while we may take most ade- 
 ' ipiate misans for defending our own country, 
 j wo can at the same time let it be understood 
 ■■ thoroughly by the world at large that it is 
 ; only for the general advancement of civiliza- 
 I tion in order that we may develop that 
 ^ strength and stand by tliosi! nations who pro- 
 po.se by their cUbrts to put down wrong and 
 maintain light, and one of the most noble 
 I examples I think we have in the history of 
 ! the present day, is thi^ example of General 
 (■ordon, with which we are all well ac- 
 ; c|uainte(l. 1 le was an oliicer of great renown. 
 ' ife undertook the great work of bring- 
 ing (Hit of chaos th<' Chinese people when 
 their great rebellions among disunited 
 provinces took place. He undertook the 
 expedition to the Soudan where he offer- 
 1 ed up his life. He was not only a great 
 ! soldier, but a gr-eat Christian .soldier, and 
 Worthy of the imitati(jn of any one who 
 makes arms his profession, and no better or 
 higher tribute can he paid to a man of that 
 ; kind than to ■ onnect him with such ideas as 
 j I am bringing before this House, to show 
 j that while we have a duty to perform as 
 ; soldiers in maintaining the power and integ- 
 ■ rity oi our country, anil supporting the 
 ' principles that the British Empire is 
 i daily developing, that we are doing it in 
 I accordance %vitli the highest Christian prin- 
 ' ciples that the world knows. With these 
 ! remarks, lion, gentlemen, I beg to present 
 j my motion for your consideration. As I 
 said before, it may be that I have not 
 : lirought it before you in as practical a way 
 ] as 1 could wish and that it may be 
 I too advanced for our unformed ideas 
 I upon the subject. It may be modified, 
 , possibl}-, by some hon. gentleman, but I 
 ' trust that the motives that have induced me 
 to bring this motion before the House are of 
 that character that I may be pardoned for 
 introducing it in the manner I have done. 
 
 Hon. Mr. MACDONALD (B.C.)— On 
 
 reading the notice of motion I had no idea 
 
 j that my hon. friend was going into the sub- 
 
 : jectin the manner in which he has gone into 
 
 j it, and I thought my own duty would be en- 
 
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 tirely of a coinplimentary nature. But the 
 speech of tlit^ hoii. j,'('ntl('in;iii has been a 
 rather triaiiguhir one ; lie has alhuled to this 
 very noble question of an international tribu- 
 nal fc* 'ce between nations, and also i;one 
 int!< 'ii liogical (|iiesiions, uiving inteipie- 
 tdtioii -li .Scripture, whicii opens the door 
 to a very wide ari^unient. lam not ;roing 
 to dispute with him as to whetiiei' these 
 interpretations ai'e true or not, but they ai'e 
 at least open to discussion and doubt. Then, 
 again, he has gi\en us a belligerent speech ' 
 as well — a jingo speerii about what Canada 
 would <lo and what (ireat JJritain would do, 
 which is entirely out of hai'mony with tiie 
 proposal made to the J louse. i 
 
 Hon. Mr. SCOTT— Hear, hear. 
 
 Hon. Mr. MACDONALD (B.C.)— I 
 think the speech should liaxc been entirely 
 one of ]ieace and good-will towards all men 
 and nations. Again, the hon. gentleman 
 has gone into the diplomatic policy of the 
 whole world. He has told us what nations 
 have been floing for centuries, and things of 
 that kind, whereas, we hav(! before our eyes 
 quite enough to show us that it would l)e a 
 very good thing if nations could lay down 
 their implements of warfare and li\e in har- 
 mony as they have been doing for a number 
 of years now. However, laying all the.se 
 matters aside, I am very glad to be able, at 
 one time at least during this session of Par- 
 liament, to stand on common ground with 
 the hon. gentleman. I thiid< his senti- 
 ments are extremely high and noble, and 
 should Ije j)ressed from one end of the world 
 to the other. He could not bring forward 
 a brighter exan:ple before this House of the 
 univeisal benefits of peace than the Vic- 
 torian era. We have had nowan era of about 
 forty 3'ears of peace. We can count, I su]>- 
 po.se, fi'om the time of the Crimean war. I 
 would not count the small contlicts in India 
 and Africa and other places, as they have 
 not really been wais, so that from the time 
 of the Crimean war we have had one 
 long glorious peace, and who can measure 
 the wonderful blessings of tliat not only 
 to England but the whole world ? 
 The fact of being able to live in peace in 
 our home.s, to worship our God according to 
 our conscience, and to develop and pro- 
 mote the art« of peace and the arts of com- 
 merce, is a very great blessing to everybody 
 and under benign rule, during a long 
 
 and glorious peace, England has made won- 
 derful development and progiess. The 
 people have been able to live in tran(iuility 
 and peace, with all the blessings which 
 attend it, for the continuance of which all 
 people and nations should earnestly pray. I 
 am not going to point out to the House -it 
 is not necessary to do so — the dilliculties 
 which may surround the piesentaliim of 
 this sentiment in iiigluu' quarters, where it 
 might be properly connnunicated to the 
 nations of the world, l will say this much 
 about it, that it is impossible for a c<>lr)nv, an 
 ott--lio()t of a nation, to bring the mattei' 
 before the nations of the world. i'.ut how 
 the hon, gentleman wishes the thing to take 
 
 I shape and how it can be pressed upon the at- 
 tention of those nations who have the powers 
 
 I of peace and wai', I do nut know. However, 
 the sentiment is a glorious one, ;ind 1 hojio 
 it may do good, and pci'haps open the eyes 
 of some people to the blessings of peace. 
 
 Hon. Mr. DKVHli— The motion lietore 
 the House must recommend itself to all 
 peaceful men who do not desire to heai' war 
 and rumouis of war perjietually rinuinL; in 
 the air. Especially must it be pleasing to 
 all who know well how disastrous war would 
 be, if such a calannty could happen between 
 the two great divisions of the I'higlish- 
 speaking people. I'.ut I have not the 
 slightest fear of sut'h an event, because of 
 the wisdom of those who know w(»ll that 
 nothing but misery could result from such a 
 wai'. Howfner, the motion of the hon. 
 gentleman is a be.autiful dream. It is moi'e 
 than a dream, it is a grand thought. I'.ut 
 here let me ask : Can this grand thought be 
 put in practice? Would to wisdom that it 
 could : I'.ut now comes in the bitterness to 
 know that there is veiy little prosp(a-t of it, 
 so long as avarice dominates the councils of 
 the nations. Still, there is a hope that 
 arbitration may yet take the place of strife, 
 and I will vote for this hope, and also for 
 the hon. gentleman's motion. 
 
 Hon. .Mr. McCLKLAN T rise to say 
 that T am pleased with the sentiments em- 
 braced in the resolution whicli the hon. 
 gentleman from Shell Uiver has presented to 
 this Chamber, and I intend to say something 
 about it. It is ditHcult to mention anything 
 connected with a subject th.al is new, now 
 that he has been so exhaustive in his treat- 
 ment of it. However, I feel that a (lis- 
 
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 ousniuii of this k^iiid upon tlic iiiiitti'i' is not 
 without, its uses, and 1 riitlicrdili'cr tVoin my 
 lion, friend wlio lias just taken his seat as to 
 that. It is quite in tlie line of our duty, 
 at this time in the history of the emv)ire, that 
 this second estate of tiie most im|iortant de- 
 pendency of tlie Cidwn sliould cxiiress its 
 views under circunislunces which may have 
 some good inlhiciic'e. We have all heard, 
 during the last decade, of a good many ]iro- 
 jects more or less entangleil and mixed up 
 with matters having of a party tinge. We 
 have heard about iiide]iendeiice, for in- 
 stance, as something whic h should be dis- 
 cussed : we have hcaid of union with the 
 United States, or annexation, although it is 
 not now a live issue, and very few of our 
 people, I take it, are infused with 
 that idea. Then, again, there is 
 the proji'ct of inijierial fe leration, which 
 T Ixdieve is undergoing di.scussion at 
 this moment in another ])la^e. I have, I 
 confess, felt that while some of these are 
 proper subjects for discussion, there is 
 another union which would be much more 
 useful, a union, offensive? and defensive, cal- 
 culated to maintain the high standard of 
 civilization and Christianity which the world 
 has reached. If the people of (!reat Ihitain 
 and North Ar.ierica could become united in 
 .sentiment, in ordei' that they might use 
 their moral force in preserving the peace of 
 the world, I think a very great gain would 
 be obtained. If that had been the case, 'or 
 if there had lieen li-s jealousy and ill-feeling 
 on the part of some portion of the people 
 of this continent towards (Jreat Britain at 
 the time the desti'uctiou of the Armenians 
 began to take place, the combined moral 
 forces of the people of this continent and 
 Great J3ritain would have had very much 
 to do in preventing that unfortunate 
 mas.saere. In short, my reflections lead 
 me to suppose that the influenc of 
 that sort of union would have been 
 sufficient to have prevented that most atio- 
 cious and unfoi'tunate occurrence which is 
 still proceeding in Armenia. The hon. gen- 
 tleman from Shell Kiver referred also to the 
 Transvaal trouble and the difference which 
 arose with Germany. I think, however, 
 that was sul).'^;>(|uent. The mes.sage of con- 
 gratulation sent by the Emperor of (iermany 
 to President Kruger occurred a good while 
 after tlie Ariucnian atrocities h.ad progressed, 
 and that may not have been an element in 
 the prevention of action against the Turks, 
 
 l)Ut I think if the Venezuelan difficulty had 
 not occurred at the moment it did, and 
 when the forces that are inimical to the 
 British people .showed themselves so very 
 strongly, even then llritain might have done 
 very much moi'e lo protect the Aiinenians. 
 However, tht; resolution which my hon. 
 fiiend has ventured to place before the 
 Senate <omprises a \ ery much more extensive 
 (|Ucstion, and takes very much u ider scope. 
 He refers to the necessity of, what is called 
 in the United States, an international jieace 
 court. How he purj)oses establishing that, 
 how it is to be formed, or what are to be 
 the rules by. which the court should be 
 guid"d, or such a council of arbiti'ation 
 should be controlled, hi; has not very fully- 
 gone into, but those things would be matters 
 for consideration afterwards. I may say 
 that an expi'ossion of opinion on this(|uestion 
 is not contined to us, but that many leading 
 men of ( ileal I hit ain have been foi' a con- 
 sidciahle time anxious for some sort of an 
 international arrangement which would pro- 
 mote the preservation of peace, and I think 
 that the Venezuelan difficulty has developed 
 throughout the United States opinions from 
 leading men, not connected particulai'ly with 
 politics, as to the im]M)i'tanc(' of this yreat 
 (piestion. I may say that ordy the other 
 day — seven days ago a memorial was sub- 
 mitted to the Senate of the United States 
 by -Mr. Fi'ye, a senator from the State of 
 ^rain(>, having in view this very object. 
 The memorial is as follows : 
 
 'I'liis nieinorial rcspci'tfiiUy sii^ifji'sts it to lie of 
 ]ia:aiiioimt iioportiiiicellial soii-ctliing very detiiiite 
 1)1' (lone ill till' iniinediate oi-i;aiii/atioii of a peiiuaii- 
 eiit international eomt of ailiitratiou ; 
 
 Tlieiefore, that until otlierwise provideil, ik 
 slaiuliii;; iiitefiiatioiial lioard of arliitiatioii ))e 
 selected and ap|ioiiited, to be eoiii|iosed of a mem- 
 lier of tlie liigiiest jiidieial tfiliiinal of eaeli of tlu! 
 following eotnitries, to wit : .-Vrgeiitina. .■\usti-ia, 
 Helgiimi, IJrazil, Cleat IJiitaiii, Cliili, Cliiiia, 
 Kgyiit, Kranee, (iermany, Hawaii, Italy, .lapan, 
 Mexico, Ofange I'Vee State, Ku.ssia, Transvaiil, 
 Turkey and tlip United States j the same to have 
 power to ^ettl(! any national (M' international dis- 
 ))utes. And that it be '.leld infraeliou of interna- 
 tional law for any nation, after establishinent of 
 this ecairt, to settle its disjiutes by the wholesale 
 niurder of war. The same to be sought and pro- 
 viilecl for by sueli legislation and siieli di))lomacy 
 as your honourable body can, in your judgment, 
 wisely bring to bear on the subject. 
 
 i tiKURGK MAV I'OWKLL, 
 
 I PirMcleiit Arhi/ratinii Ciudin'/. 
 
 I I take this from the Philadelphia Eri>nmg 
 I Star of the 16th inst. As I said before, 
 
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 not iiloiK! in the Unitf^l Stat(>s but ill (Jrcat I facts, tliosc thivo oiili<,'lit(MU>'l nations ai'(^ 
 Britain there is a growing tendency in t'avd'.ir j to-(iay increasing their expenditure on war 
 of action along these lines. .My lion, triend i eijuipnients and they are unable to take any 
 from Shell Hirer has spoken a good deal ! step to bring about those things which every 
 about the pre[iaiatioiis for war in the,se i Christian coniiHuiiity seems to be so anxious 
 modern times. I read somewhere not long ] to aceumplish, that is to say, the [ireveniion 
 ago, in connection with that subject, that of atrocities such as those in .\iiiienia. The 
 the army and navy e(iiiijiiiients of the con- old axiom of niiiiiit making right is a wronj. 
 
 tineiital nations of Europe cost yearly a sum 
 of not less than £250,000,000. 
 
 Hon. 
 that. 
 
 Mr. UOULTON— It rather exceeds 
 
 Hon Mr. :\rcCLELAN— Possibly it does, 
 and there is besides the tremendous navy 
 that is owned by Great Britain. It seems 
 tro bad that such an enormous amount of 
 treasure should be spent by these enlight- 
 ened and Christian nations in etiuijiping 
 navies and armies when atrocities so fearful 
 to be contemplated are going on before th(Mr 
 eyes in Armenia. Such, howcsver, seems to 
 be the fact, and my lion, fiiend has alluded 
 very fully to the difficulties which beset 
 
 Great Britain in lending a helping hand for j brought before this Hou.se, which can lead 
 the solution of that unfortunates matter. [ to no j)ractical result ixcept inei'e words in 
 
 one. The strong and the powerful .should h,..ie 
 learned it appears to mo, as nations and as 
 individuals, that might should not necessarily 
 be right, but that powi^r should be used for 
 the protection of the weak and raising those 
 whf) are helpless. That, it appears to me, 
 ought to be the result of nineteen centuries 
 of improving civilization tempered by Chris- 
 tianity. ] trust that the resolution, and the 
 expression upon it by this honoural)le body, 
 will nut be witliout its iiiHuence in some de- 
 gree, and that results will follow from it 
 which will piomote to some extent the objects 
 which the mover has in view. 
 
 Hon. Mr. ALMON— I do not generally 
 make any remarks on an abstract question 
 
 Great Britain would not be in that position 
 if there was some recognized council of 
 Arbitration, some way by which representa- 
 tives of nations could sit down and discu.ss 
 matters. Personal contact has great inllu- 
 enc • in bringing about a solution of ditlicul- 
 
 tlie Debates, but as several lion, gentiemen 
 have spoken on this cpiestion, I think I shall 
 say a few words. It is a \erv beautiful 
 chimera which the hon. gentleman lias pre- 
 sented to us, but I do not think it is a fact. 
 When the millennium takes place and the lion 
 
 ties. The century is passing and soon we ; will lie down with the lamb and a little child 
 shall have reached 1900 years since the birth i will play with the cocatrice, what he wishes 
 of Him who is the founder of our Christian \ will take place, but the present moment is 
 faith, and whose birth was heralded by the : certainly not the time. What has been the 
 announcement of " peace on earth, good-will j effect of arbitration heretofore? In 1831 
 to man." For thousands of years before j there was very nearly war between France 
 widespread slaughter and destruction to ^ and the United States on account of claims 
 human life had been permitted. The world I for Ignited States vessels which had been 
 seemed to require it, for disciplinary or | taken during the troubles when Napfileon 
 other purposes, but under the new dispeusa \ Bonapaite attempted to enforce the Milan 
 tion it would seem as if sufficient time had [ Decrees. The United States brought 
 elapsed when an entirely differenu feeling, j cla'ms against the Frendi Government to 
 one of charity and good-will, should pervade indemnify people who had lost their goods. 
 Christian and civilized people. Taking England, with that disregard to her own 
 three great nations, we all know and i interests which she often shows, interfered 
 recognize fully the wonderful improvements and prevented war, and the matter 
 in the refined arts and polite literature of was submitted to arbitration. It was 
 France, the solid advancement in metapliy- decided that France should pay a large 
 sical, chemical and other sciences of the Ger- < sum to the United States Government 
 man states, and the progress made by our to indemnify persons who had been injured, 
 motlierland in bringing to tight many im- ; The money was paid river and what han the 
 portant inventions which have been skilfully United States d(me with it? Although this 
 applied to magnify her wealth, importance i money was got from France, the merchants, 
 and influence. Notwithstanding all these whose claims had been presented, have never 
 
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 received any of it. It has been lying in tlie | 
 United States Treasury to this day, between ; 
 fifty and sixty years. M'e all reini'inber 
 the Alabama claims arbitration. England > 
 paid the sum of money which was | 
 demanded. Claims of the most e.xtraordi- j 
 nary nature were brought forward to get | 
 these funds, and yet after settling every pos- ; 
 sible claim that could be advanced, a large ' 
 sum of money still remains in the hands of 
 the United States (government. Would not | 
 common honesty have dictated to them that i 
 the unpaid l)alance of money should be ' 
 returned to Great Britain 1 Then, again, i 
 only the other day we had the case of our 
 sealers which were seized illegally by the ; 
 United States. Our neighbours agreed to ; 
 an arbitration at which the United States ! 
 was represented as well as ourselves ; it was \ 
 decided that the seizures were illegal, and ; 
 thatoursoalerswere to be paidforthedamages | 
 they had sustained by the detention of their 
 vessels. Has any money been paid ? The 
 money has not been paid, and what is the 
 use of arbitration when you have to deal 
 with persons imbued with the spirit illus- 
 trated in these three cases ? Then it is pro- 
 posed to buy Palestine ; why should v/e buy 
 Palestine ? Palestine belongs to the Sultan 
 of Turkey. Have we any right to say to 
 England "rob Turkey of Palestine; get 
 Turkey by the throat and oblige the Porte 
 to sell Palestine f I think we have not. 
 The hon. gentleman who cries "Peace, 
 peace," when there is no peace is not 
 justified in making that proposition. 
 I have a proposition to suggest as to the 
 place where the arbitration should meet, and 
 perhaps the hon. gentleman from Shell River 
 might agree with me, and that is. Sable 
 Island. I am a Nova Scotian, but I think 
 I can speak in the aamv, r.i my countrymen. 
 Sable Island is, by geographical error, sup- 
 posed to be part of Halifax County, and I 
 think I can make the pledge that Sable 
 Island will be given up for the headquarters 
 of the Board of Arbitration without cheat- 
 ing Turkey out of Palestine. Any one who 
 has been to Palestine will see that the people 
 tlere are beggars and persons who have 
 been transported there by charity ; they 
 are mere beggars and the scum of the 
 world. Of course thfsre are exceptions to 
 that. The hon. gentleman alluded to Abyssi- 
 nia and the Italians. My sympathies are 
 entirely with the Abyssinians. I have great 
 respect for the Italians, but I think they 
 
 might have saved Italy the trouble 
 they have got into by the invasion 
 of that country. I will not go so far as to 
 say that the Aljyssininns were descended 
 from the eunuch who was baptized by Philip, 
 but no doubt their Christianity dates as far 
 back as that. I must apologize to the House 
 for the remarks I h ive made, because I think 
 the (juestion cannot be properly discussed 
 in this chamber. 
 
 Hon. Mr. BOULTON— From the tone of 
 those hon. gentlemen who have addressed the 
 Senate, I think probably it would be better 
 for me to withdraw the motion rather than 
 seek to commit the House to the principle. 
 The object I had in view is served, and pos- 
 sibly as years go by the question may come 
 up again in the Senate, when the views that 
 are here advanced may be better known. 
 With the i)ermission of the House I shall 
 withdraw the resolution. 
 
 The motion was withdrawn. 
 
 ALUOMA ELECTION AVRIT. 
 
 MOTION WITHDHAWN. 
 
 The Order of the Day being called — 
 
 'I'lmt an humble address be presented to His 
 Kxoelleiicy the Governor Oeneral, praying that His 
 Kxeellenoy will be pleased to cause to be laid be- 
 fore the Senate, a copy of the writ of election dated 
 tlie 4lh day of February, 1891, addrosse<l to Harry 
 I'hiiniiiei', Ksijuire, as a returning otlieer for the elec- 
 toral district of Algoma, in the province of Ontario, 
 [ for the election of a member to represent the said 
 ' electoral district of Algoma, in the House of Com- 
 mons, for the present parliament. Also, coiiies of 
 all letters addressed by the (^lerk of the Crown in 
 Chancery, Canada, or by any otHciul of the govern- 
 ■ ment, to the returning officer for Algoma, at the 
 , last electicm. And also, copies of any letters from 
 the said returning officer to the Clerk of the Crown 
 j in Chancery. 
 
 j Hon. Mr. SCOTT— It is stated that 
 
 I in another place to-day an announcement 
 will be made, in ijehalf of the government, 
 as to the view they have arrived at as to the 
 length of Parliament, and I see by the 
 
 i accredited organ of the government here it is 
 
 i stated : 
 
 As to this matter of the " life of parliament," it 
 is understood the government will announce to the 
 Hou.se to-day that it hohls to the opinion that 
 Parliament ex])ires on the i!.")tli April. 
 
 I presume that the announcement is, in 
 the main, correct. If so, I shall withdraw my 
 motion. 
 
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 Hon. Sir MACKENZIE BOWELL- 
 Thc hon. gentleman is (juite correct. After 
 considering this matter in all its phases, 
 wliile there ar'e many diilerent opinions 
 upon the question, it has been thought much 
 better, in order to allay any feeling of dis- 
 trust or want of confidence in the perman- 
 ency of the Acts of the first ses-<ion of this 
 Parliament, and from the fact that, even if 
 the Supreme Court should decide either one 
 way or the other, it might be subject to an 
 appeal to the Privy Council, and, therefore, 
 keep the (juestion in abeyance for some time, 
 that it would be much better for the govern- 
 ment to decide, and to announce at once that 
 tliey do not intend to ask Parliament to sit 
 after the 25th April. 
 
 The motion was withdrawn. 
 
 THIRD READINGS. 
 
 Bill (50) " An Act respecting the South 
 Western Railway and the St. Lawrence and 
 Adirondack Railway Company."— (Mr. 
 Bellerose.) 
 
 Bill (62) "An Act to incorporate the 
 Canadian Peat Fuel Company."— (Mr. Mc- 
 Kindsey.) 
 
 Bill (J) " An Act respecting the Revision 
 of the Statutes."— (Sir Mackenzie Bowell.) 
 
 Bill (36) " An xVct respecting the Mon- 
 treal Island Belt Line Railway Company."— 
 (Ml Belleroie.) 
 
 CANADIAN HISTORICAL EXHIBI- 
 TION BILL. 
 
 REFERRED TO A SELECT COMMITTEE. 
 
 The Order of the Day having been called ; 
 
 House again in Committee of tlio Whole on fJill 
 (F) " An Act respectinf,' the ('iinii<Iiiin Historical 
 Exhibition. 
 
 Hon. Mr. MacINNES (Burlington) said ; 
 —I move that this Order of the Day be dis- 
 charged and set down for Thursday next. 
 In the meantime I propose that a select 
 committee be appointed to considt^r the bill 
 and to put it in a shape that it may be 
 acceptable to the House. 
 
 Hon. Sir MACKENZIE BOWELL-I 
 think my hon. friend is not pursuing a 
 strictly parliamentary course in the motion 
 he is making. He moves to discharge the 
 order and set it down for Thursday. What 
 
 order 1 This order will remain in precisely 
 the same position it occupies now if it is 
 brought before the Senate on the L'.")th of the 
 month. He desires, however, in order to cor- 
 rect some errors that may bo in it, (jr change 
 some of the clauses so as lo make the bill 
 acceptable to those who have taken objec- 
 tion, that it should be referied to a select 
 connnittee. Would it not be better to niove 
 . that the House do not now resolve itself into 
 a committee of the whole on this hill, but 
 that it be referred to a select committee for 
 consideration 1 Then it will com" back 
 ' from that committee amended. Then my 
 ' hon. friend will move the third reading at 
 the following sitting of the House, and we 
 can consider the amendments. Otherwise 
 he would be in this position ; he would have 
 a report upon a bill which staiuls for its 
 thirci reading. 
 
 Hon. Mr. MacINNES (Burlington)— I 
 am perfectly willing to accei>t the proposal 
 made by the Hrst minister, and I will make 
 my motion in that form. I move that the 
 bill be referred to a select committee com- 
 posed of the Hon. Messrs. Almon, Pelletier, 
 1 Masson, Power, McKindsey, Poirier, Mc- 
 iDon.ud (P.E.I.), de Boucherville, Mac- 
 don.'Jd (Victoria,) Sullivan, McClelan, 
 ! Vidal, Drummond, Ferguson (P.E.I.) and 
 j the mover. 
 
 The motion was agreed to. 
 
 SECOND READING. 
 
 Bill (48) " :i.n Act respecting the Cana- 
 dian Jockey Club."— (Mr. McKindsey.) 
 
 ONTARIO BUILDING AND LOAN 
 SOCIETIES BILL. 
 
 SECOND READING POSTPONED. 
 
 The order of the day having been called : 
 
 Scc(m(l reading n'«ill " K ") An Act respectina 
 
 IJiiilding anil boan .Societies and Loan anil 
 
 Savings t'oniiianies carrying on hiLsiness in tlie 
 province of Ontario, 
 
 Hon. Mr. POWER said :— With respect 
 to this bill, which is one of some consequence, 
 as the hon. gentleman in charge of the bill 
 has been absent for a considerable time, 1 
 think if there is any hon. gentleman 
 interested in it, that it would be well that 
 it should be taken hold of and pushed along, 
 
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 because at this stage of the session, unless 
 this bill goes down to i\w other House very 
 shortly, it will have very little chance of 
 becoming law this yeai\ The hill is in the 
 ri^ht direction, I tliink. 
 
 Jlon. Mr. McKAY — 1 understand there 
 is some serious objection to the bill as it is 
 now framed, and that a number of senators 
 have been written to in regai'd to it, and 
 that it was intended that these communica- 
 tion should be submitted to the promoters 
 of the bill before it was pressed, and that is 
 the reason it has been put off from day to 
 day. I have no doubt something will be 
 done to render the bill unobjectionable. 
 
 The bill was allowed to stand. 
 
 BILLS INTRODUCED. 
 
 I>ili (45) "An Act to incorporate the 
 Schoml)erg and Aurora Railway Co." 
 — (Ml'. McKindsey.) 
 
 I*>iil (79) " An Act to incorporate the 
 National Sanitarium Association.'' — (Mr. 
 Vidal.) 
 
 Bill (C;{) "An Act to amend the Act in- 
 coiporf.dng the International Radial Rail- 
 way Company.''— (Mr. iMcKindsey.) 
 
 Bill (70) "An Act respecting the Toronto, 
 Hamilton and Buffalo Railway Co."— (Mr. 
 McKindsey.) 
 
 The Senate then adjourned. 
 
 OTT.AWA : i'riiitt'ol by S. E. D.wvsoN, Printer to the Quecn'a most Excellent Majesty, 1896. 
 
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 :)orate the 
 way Co." 
 
 )orate the 
 un.'— (Mr. 
 
 ;he Act in- 
 adial Rail- 
 
 y-) 
 
 le Toronto, 
 :;o."— (Mr. 
 
 1898.