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WKDNESDAY, 7th MAROH, 1877.

(From tiie Hansard Refwrt.)

Mr BUNSTKR moved: '

*' That the Hou. do uow reflolve itaelf iuto
u Committee of the W}i>)le to .junsiiler the
followine resohition : — That in the ophiion
ol'thin Hoiiso the iutorestd of British Colum-
hia will Ix- proiiioteil Ia the ailoj)t'on of a
Special Tdi-iiT I'or the pv'dtection ot the Farm-
ing, Mining find Manutat taring ii.teresta of
that Province, until the fonstriictioQ of the
Canadiau Pauiflc Railway ."

Ho wai(J that, fom- joars ago, lie had
the honour of briugiug this subject
before the House. Since then, circani-
stanoes had occurred whicdi ho thought
would enable the n()U3e to judge of the
inatter in a more favourable light; the
<luestion possesi^ing additional interest
to entitle it to (heir tavourable con-
Hidoration. He was ghid the Speech
from the Throne had refei rod to the
viriitniade by the tiovernui-(ieneral to
Bi'itish Columbia la^t summer.

Ml-. OAIlTWilKiHT said the mo-
tion eou1(' -lot po.shibl> be in order.

Mr. BUNS'?' KK said if ilio lion, the
Fiaance Minister would bear with him
for a few moments, he avouKI show
that it was in onJer. It was not fair
or honest that, whentsver the members
tVom British (jdumbia rose in the
Hovse, they sin 'uld be interrupted in
this way. It, was rather singular, to
mj the loa'^t, that the hon. ilio Finance
Minister should intermpt him when

he mentioned the circumstauce of the
visit of the Govornor-Goncral Ui British
Columbia last year.

Mr. CARTWRIGHT said the hon.
member should place the motion in
the hands ot I he Speaker before lie
proceeded to speat to it.

Mr. BUNSTRR said he would do so
at the proper time.

Mr. SPEAKER said ho looked inio
the matter a few moments ago and
found tliaf the m^jti ..ii handed in was
one of an abstract charactei, and
therefore would bo iu order. Whether
it was exactly consistent with the
notice was another question.

Mr. BJiAK F mid the House had f)nly
to do with tbf motion on the notice
paper, and th'-t was the only one the
non. member could move.

Mr. Si' RAKER said it had occurrwl
to him that, looking at the motion a« it
appear'Hl on the paper, it was entirely
out of order; and he had, therefore,
i»K.amined the motion itself. In his
opinion it was in onler, though it might
bo a very inconvenient abstract resolu-
tion.

Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD Haid

that what appeared on the notice paper
was merely a synopais of tiio motion.

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Ml. BUNSTER, continuing, said
tlmt. wlien Ili« Exoelloncy the Govor-
nor-Cieneral visited Britibh Columbia
last bcason, lio Avas well received, as
he deserved tu be; and he, also, well
received the farmers who waited on
him en mas^c, and laid their giicvau-
ces on this subject before him. His
Excellency promised to aid them as
much as lay in his power. It was
reported that ho (Lord Diifteriii) had
said that the farmers needed protection,
but it was a question for his Ministers
to deal with, the only thing ho (Lord
Dufferin) could do being to recom-
mend the matter to them.

Mr, BLAKE : Hear, hear.

Mr. BU:NSTER said the hou. the
Minister of .Justice would not find him
saying anything except what was cor-
rect ami in the interests of British
Columbia, His i'ixcellency, having
given the fanners a hearing and assured
them that he would give all the assist-
ance in his power, the}' (the farmers^,
a largo and influenti.'il body, had solici-
ted him (Mr. Bunster) to bring the
matter before Parliament, and aslv that
a special tariff should be granted in the
iutcrestB of the Province. No donl)t
It would be a'"gueil t!iat a special or
differential tariff could not be extended
to any particular part ^)f the Dominion,
but it should be reniombor aI that
British Columbia was labouring at
present under the disadvantages of a
tariff almost altogether opposed to the
wants and wishes of the ]>cople of that
Province. British Columbia did not
enjoy the jirivilegcs actjuired under
the Washington Treaty by other
Provinces of the Dominion, and ui)on
that fact ho based the claim to have a
special tariff' framed in her interest**.
It was a matter of justice that that
distant Province should receive th«
consideration on this subject it was
HO well entitled to. Their markets had
been flooiled with American produce,
to the detriment of the iai-mei-s, ever
since the Province came into the Union.
1?he farmers on the island of San Juan,
who felt they were labouring under
gi-eat injimtice in this matter aa subjects
of Great Bi'itain, now possos.sed a
market which they would not have
»btained if they had remained part and
paro«l of the Dominion. He claimed.

on behalf of British Columbia, that,
inasmuch as there was already a
differential taritf against thu Province,
the (jovcrnment should take the sub-
ject into its fav<nirable cunsideralion
and grant what was now ^o urgently
ncodod and i\;quire>l, thu.-> tulliring the
promise, or partial piomise, i lade by
His Excellency to the lariners of that
country — a promise, ho might add,
that had niade their hearts rejoice,
giving them contidence, as it did, that
tlicy would be iiiirly and honourabl}'
dealt with by the Dominion authorities.

Mr. SPEAKER .said that it was well
known His Kxcollency could .not make
a statement on public affairs unless
under the ros]iorisil)ility of Ministers of
till' Ci*own. It was not, therefore,
strictly in oiti. for any hon. member
to inform the House as to what His
I'lxcA'llcncy did or did not say. His
Exeellericv's name -thould not bo used
for the purpose of influencing the
opinion of the House.

Mr. BUNSTER said ho would also
eall the attention of the Government to
a resolution j)asse(1 in IBTB by the
Local Legislature of British Columbia.
It read as follows : —

'• Thut, wbere8.<>, l)y tlic 7th cUust ol' tlic
Terms of Union, it i.»; piuvjileJ that tho Cus-
toiM'! Tiirid ii;nl F.xci?e [)utio.s existing within
tlio Province at the iliile of union shonlii oun-
tinne in force until tlie railway from the
Pivc'tic coast ami the eyptem ol railway.s in
Canada pIiouIiI he connecteil, nnlesM by Je-
cision of the Le^Mslutiin" of Briti.silii Columbifi
tiie Taritl and Excise Laws of Canada should
sooner be adoijted ;

"And \<hereae, owiu^ principally to tlie
anticipated early construction and comple-
tion of the Pacific Railway, the Legislature
of British Golunibia adopted the Canadian
Tariff and Excise Laws ;

•' And whereas the agricultural portioi\
of the community througliout the Province
have suffered severely from the adoption Ot
the Canadian Tariff, which, while admitting
some farm products free, imjwsed but a low
rate of duly on all others-— {he might say
that scarcely any duties were imposed on
foreign pro*.! >ets)-— and as connection between
the Pacific Coa-st anil the railway systeni ot
'""anada is not likely to l>e a(u;ornpfiBhed so
soon as was at fir.st uinierstcXHl ;

'• And whereas, moreover, the neighbour-
ing poB.se8sion8 of the t^nitetf States of
America overflow with a surpIuH of commo-
dities whicli this Province can produce in
sufficiency for more than itu present need :

*' Therefore, your memorialists respeot-
fulljr ask Uiat your Excellency may 1>e

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pleased to sanction tlip adoption for this
Province, of the following changes in the
taritJ' now in operation."

The clmngeH in the tariff they deHirod
to secure were the romovnf of the
duties levied on niininj^ and agricul-
luiul machinerv; and, in lieu thereof,
the imposition of a small tax ( n the
corcnis which con Id he ju'uduial in
the Province of Briliwh Columbia.
Tlii> w iiMi<l bo only a fail' and perfectly
just proeeedinji;, and if the Govern-
ment wished to do the Province justice
they would certainly accede to it; and
this could he done without inflicting
any injury on the othor Provinces of
the Dominion. One duty imposed by
the American Goveniment militated
heavily against theii' intirests. They
ot!ipioy(>i! Indians in " gathering" oil,
vriiieh was excluded from the Ameri-
can market, and they were conse-
(luently obliged to scud it to England
They did not share, it wjih to Ite
remembered, in the beneiitH accruing
from the Washington Treaty. He
thought he had shown that it was por-
fcctlj' practicable for the Govern-
ment to grant British Columbia a
moditied taritl'. in order that the
ho])e an 1 sinew of the cointry
might not I'C driven oat of it, and
that their larming lands might not
again become portions of the howling
wilderness. If those other Provinces
were overrun with American produce,
as they were in Hritisli Columbia, he
was certain that the consequent disa<l-
vantage would l)e telt, and no one
could therefore be l)lamed under such
circumslances ii>r defending the inter-
ests of his constituents ; particulai-ly if,
as iie (Mr. HimsLei') was, s\ipportod by
the Legislature and the entire popida
tion of his Province. British Columbia
only desireil to secure an exceptional
taritl' until '^uch a time as Canada
would carry out her pledges and build
th<' railway. It was also to be borne
in mind that, since the Province entered
Confotleration, the tariff had been
raised 2J per cent, on ai-ticles which
they consumed. Unibrtunately, they
did not have a sufficiently large popu-
lation to encoui'ago manufactures, and
even if this were the case they would in
this relation be shut out of the American
market. Many intelligent and thrifty
fUrmors hat! gone to British Columbia

from Ontario — s(mic on the recomnum-
dation of his friends, and some on his
own recommendation, which recommen-
dation be now rogrett(jd having given,
because they had said to bim . " Vou
have good land we know, becauMo we
see it bit'ore us, but you have no mar-
ket : it is hotter lo jiro to the States
titan To rohie tt)_>(<nr eounuy." Jleiice
the}' lost seftleirt who were na good sub-
jeetsand citizens a.s could be found any-
where in the world, simplj" because
they lacked the small degree of protec-
tion which they desired, and which
was necessary to est^iblisb a proper
feeling of confi<lence. He earnestly
implored the Government to take the
matter into their favourable considera-
tion. He thought that a tax on cereals
would be preferable to the tax on malt.
He asked hon. gentlemen to support
him in his endeavour to secni'O what
was simply a matter of justice for his
Province. He would propose to add to
the motion the proviso " Until the
Canada Pacific Railroad be built."

Mr. CAETWKIGHT : Does this
imply compensation for an}' other
unavoidable JifTiculty that may occur?

Mr. BUXSTEIt: The nnavoi.lable
delay will proliably come up in another
fo:m. British Columbia is not in.sensi-
blo to the injustice done her.

Mr CAKTWKIGllT: i mu>t in-
form my hon. friend that we cannot
allow such a resolution to jmss, llf)\v-
ever <lesirous we may be to meet his
wishes, and those of other gentlemen
from British Columbia, it is scarcely
necessary for me to say that it is im-
possible for this Dominion to per lit
each sepaiate Province to have a separ-
ate tariff adapted to it-, own ospenal
needs; therefoie, I hope that my hon.
friend Avill not insist on pressing his
motion. He has stated his case and
his grievances, and I think it would
not bo advisable for him to press a re-
solution which I think the sense of
the House will inevitably condemn*

Mr. DEWDNEY said that, prior
to entering the Union, they had had
the alternative of either retaining tlieir
own tariff or of accepting the Canadian
tariff, which, if not then accepted, wae
to come into force when the railway
was built. He was willing, however,
to let the matter drop.

Sir JOHN A. MA( 'DONALD said he
tViuughl fhnt as his hon. friend from
Vancouver hiwl htui an opportiuiily for
muking his oNpiaiiationK, which would
go to the country uud to tlie hon.
^ontleman'H conHtituonts, ho (Mr.
Bunstor) had bettor adopt the suggo«-
tion ol' the Fiimnco Minintcr, and
withilruw hiH motion. Its past»ugti, of
course, was hope less.

Mr. BIJNSTKH said that he wouhl
comply with the suggestions of the
Finance Minister and of the leader of
ilie Opposition, but novertheloss he
would probably move the motion in

amondmcut to the motion of the right
hon. member for Kingston or before
going into Committee ofSum)ly. lie
would merely add that Britisn Colum-
bia hml boon worse treated, and there-
fore had more cause to fool discontented
than any other Province in the Domin-
ion. Ho hoped the Govornmont might
800 their way to granting what ho had
asked for at some fiiture time, and
bring it down as part and parcel of
their policy.

Motion, with leave of the House,
witJulrawn.

Maclean Roger & Co , Parliamcnuo' "^d Deptrtnunttil PHnten, Ottawa ft*

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