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Les diagrammes suivants iltustrent la mAthode. 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 FACTS FORTH Timter Limits in the "Disputed One of the most commoD charges made against the gove itment of Sir John Macdon- aid is that it has, in violation of the rights of the Provincial Government of Ontario, given away, at nominal prices, and for corrupt pur- poses, the timber limits comprised within the •» disputed territory " west of Thunder Bay. Mr. Geo. W. Boss, in one of his speeches daring the recent campaign in Ontario, said : >* What has the Dominion Government done — «* not with their own timber limitp, but wiih ( ours ? They have sc Id large and valuable ii timber limits in the disputed territory, after •« the Pi ivy Council had declared it to be »« within the limits ofthe Province of Ontario, •< at the rate of $5 per square mile as ♦« against our $400." ^T^. Mowat and others made substantially the «ame statement. Mr. Ross gave a list of twenty-six persons who, he said, had received these limits. It so happens that seven names were duplicated in this list ; the first seven being repeated at the end Of the balance, nineteen, thirteen never obtained licanses, though orders-in- council were passed authorizing the minister to grant them, and were, therefore, never in a position t« cut a stick of timber on the limits. Four of these, however, paid one years' rental in advance, or in the aggregate $1000, which has not been refunded. The other six on the list obtained licenses, an i paid on account of rental $1970 ; but as they O.RiVx t\a\r fif .Tlinp IHTi. ar- le hiigest bonus cot the license MHE PEOPLE. f f Disputed Territory of Ontario." ; in the lulder thereof, all right of wha'auever in all trees, timber, d other products of timber cut wlth- its it the Lase during theconlinu- jof, whether such trees, timber and products be cut by authority of the such lease or by any other person without his consent, and this lease lie the i( ssee to seize in replevin, re- )n or otherwise, as his property , such lere the same is found in the posses- uy unauthi*iized person and also to r action or suit at law or in equity iy party unlawfully In pos&essiou of limber OR OP ANY LAND SO AND TO PROSECUTE ALL TRES- ; THEREON and other such oflTeud- esaid, to conviction and puni/bment cover damages if any, and all pro- ending at the expiration of the pre- may be continuea and completed as e had not expired." se was sanctioDed by the eiguatures Laird, minister of the interior, R. secretary of state, and Edwara inister of justice, t't is proper to in the case of the first lease a bonus id in the case of the others a bonus ijuare mile was given. But spread- bonuses over the twenty-one years, I would still be not more than an f $3 a mile. IF, THEREFORE, S TIMBER BEING CUT TO-DAY, 'DISPUTED TERRITORY" UN- THOIIIIY OF THE GOVERN- )F CANADA, THE RESPONSl- RESTS WITH THE GOVERN- ^ MR MACKENZIE, NOT WITH ^ SIR JOHN A. MACDONALD esent GoverLmeut changed the le system of twenty-one year leases, xtiaordinary powers contained in abandoned, and a system of yearly as substituted. The rental was mile, instead of $2 with a $15 lad over the twenty-one years, as prevailed. ^Wher« two or more •plied for the same limit, they were ) compete, and the person oflfering bonus pot the license, if he com- the other conditions. Under thio ^,121 orders-ic-conncil were passed g the issue of yearly licvuses, aver- it fifty f Quare miles each. Of theKe in Eubstitution for other orders g the granting of berths in the ict, which '"ere cancelled. These soever, gave no authority to the amed iu them to cut timber until aade the survey of the limit applied taitied the license. One year's this point. It is explained in the following correspondence : " Ottawa, Jan. 8th, 1887. "Dbar Sib,— In the detailed statement of timber leases and llcenea within the " dispu- ted territory » which you have furnished me. no license appears to have istued under the authority of orders passed sirce the decision of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council on the boundary question Are you quite sure on this porut, as the orders themselves convey a different impression. '* Yours truly n TT T, T^ .. *' Thomas Whitb." Q. U. Rylky, Esq," Cbown Timber Office, Tx « Ottawa, January lOtii, 1887. DSAR SIB.— I have made a caveful examinar Uon ot the books in this branch, and am quite certain that the statement. I have furnished you Is correct No license has been issued under any ordp- in Council passed since the decision of th x^ivy counc" The misappre- hension has arisen from a mi T,ke of the clerks in the 1 rivy council office. ^ The order in council passed 25th October,' 1884, states: • Oa a memorandum dated 8rd Oct b.r, 1884, " from the Minister of the Interior represent- • ing thatllccuses to cut timber in the Prov- " Ince of Manitoba have been granted, etc., "etc.;" whereas the terms of the memoran- dum were ; •* The undersigned (the M nister of " the iBterior) has the honor to submit the •• annexed list of persons TO WHOM HE HAS " BEEN AUTHORIZED BY COUNCIL TO iS "WUE LICENSES Ts» CUT TIMBER" etcT etc. As I have said no license has been issued under the authority of these orders in Cuunoil. ♦• Yours respeotftilly, .•TX m „v '^a. U. RYIiKY." " Ho». Thos. WHms." The recult, therefore, of the Governmtut's administration of the timber resources of the « Dispnted Territory" is this :— Four twenty-one year leases have been granted, three of them by the Maokenzie Government, and one, for a small area to complete that authorized by Mr. Mackenzie, by that of Sir John Macdonald. The holders of these leases are the only persons now cutting timber in the «« disputed territory " under authority of the Government of Canada. The present Government issued in all twenty -two yearly licenses, but only one of the licensees has ever cut timber under the authority of these licenses ; they have all lapsed and the Gov- ernment has refused to renew thosr 8 those for whom orders-in-council were passed, but who never obtained licenses, paid by way bjnus for the limits they were applying fur, the aggregate sum of $4137 50. Some permits were granted, and it is proper to refer to them. In all sixly-four of these permits were granted, fifty-aeven of them be 38t bonus cot the license, if he com- I Government i'ssiif>d in a11 farpnfv.farnriraoriv ritory"!! On the 26th day of June, 1874, ac arrangement was made and contiimed by ordtr in council of 'he 8th of July following, betwen the Dominion and Ontario Govern- ments, the former represented by Mr. Laird, Minister of the Interior, and the latter by Mr. Pardee, by which that portion of the so- called •< disputed territory " lying west of a line passing through the most easteily point of Hunter's Island, was to be administered by the Government of Canada, the Ontario Oovemment agreeing to confirm all titles given by it, during the period of such administration. Under this arrangment four twenty-one ye&rs licenses were granted to cut timber au follows : S. H Fowler of Fori Frances, the date of the order-in-council be- ing 19th March, 1875, and of the lease 2nd March 1876, for one hundred square miles ; Fuller & Co., Hamilton, date of order-in- council and of lease reepectively being 22nd July 1875, for sixty square miles ; W. J. Macaulay, Winnipeg, date of order-in-eouncil being 18th April 1878, and of lease 1st May 1878, for 74 59-100 square miles; and W. J. Macaulay, date of order 5th April, 1880, and of lease 12ih October, 1880, for 25 41-100 miles, this last lease being to complete the area of 100 rquare miles, authorized when the first lease was granted to Macaulay. Fowler's lease was subsequently assigned to the Rainy Lake* Lumber company, and Fuller & Co' 8. to the Keewatin Lumbering company. These leases are still in existence THEr ARE THE ONLY AUTHORITY FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA, UNDER WHICH TIMBER HAS BEEN CUT IN THE ''DISPUTED TERRITORY," SINCE 31ST., OF DECEMBER, 1885. The first three were issued by Mr. Mackenzie's Government, and the last by the Govern- ment of Sir John Macdonald,in completion of the arrangement made by his predecessor. The terms of the leases were made by Mr. Mackenzie's Government, and in view of the complaint which is made by Mr. Ross, it is worth while pointing out that the annual rental was only $2, instead of $5 as has been charged by the present Government, that the leases were for twenty-one years, instead of yearly licenses since issued, and that they gave the lessees control of the land, with power to evict settlers — a power which has in at least one case been exercised — while the yearly licenses since £;ranted gave no such power, t Here U the clause of the lease giving that power:— "6. The present lease shall vest in the said lessees during its continuance the right to take herein atx>ve described subject to the con- ditions )iere in before provided ; and this leaM le largest bonus pot the license, ] plied with the other conditions, new policy, 121 orders-in-council \ authoriziug the issue of yearly lie; aging about fifty fquare miles each nine were in substitution for o( authorizing the granting of bert same dictiict, which were cancel! orders, however, gave no author] perKons named in them to cut ti: they had made the survey of the lii for and obtained the license. ( rental in advance was required t after the order wac) passed and license issued, or even the author! vey was granted. Altogether on two yearly licenses were issued uo thority of these orders-in-council. It is complained that the Goveri tinued to deal with the timber in puled territory " alter the decis Privy Council. «^ e facts are mediately after tLj decision an opi Minister of Justice, Sir Alexander was obtained in whieh it was f << inasmuch as the Crown, as repi " the Government of Canada, acqu " render from the Indians their rig "in the lands in question, and is in " thereof, the undersigned is of o I 'there is no objtjction to the Mini '< Interior giving effect to the ar << which he had made anterior to t < < as mentioned in his report by issu '« in the usual way." Acting under this opinion lie issued to such of those to whom tt of the Interior had been previously; to issue them who returned the survey, to the number of twenty persons to whom these licenses w< paid to the department by way rents, the sum of $8035 84 ; and t who had to compete, in consequen being other applicants, paid in add by way of bonuses. ONLY ONE ( TWENTY-ONE LICENSEES EV STICK OF TIMBER IN THE "I TERRITORY " ; THE LAST OF CENSES EXPIRED ON THE 31s BER, 1885 ; AND THE GOVI HAS IN EVERY CASE REFUSE NEW THEM. © oting under the ions, orders in council were pasi latter part of 1884, and subsequent August 1884, authorizing the Mini Interior to issue licenses to tweni plicants. But these were never t no single license having been ise thetu. A cieriottl eirur iu theStf council has led to some misapprel £ onus pot the license, if ne com* the other couditions. Under this f^, 121 orders-in-council were passed g the issue of yearly lie/uses, aver- it fifty Fquare miles each. Of these in subBtitution for other orders g the granting of berths io the ict, which were cancelled. These wever, gave no authority to the amcd in them to cut timber until nade the survey of the limit applied ttaiued the license. One year's advance was required to be paid, order wac) passed and before the ued, or even the authority to sur- ranted. Altogether only twenty- licenees were issued under the au- these orders-in-council. nplained that the Government con- ical with the timber in the " dis- itory" alter the decision of the ncii. i^ e facts are these: Im- after tU j decision an opinion of the f Justice, Sir Alexander Campbell, led in whieh it was stated that !h as the Crown, as represented by ernment of Canada, acquired by sur- om the Indians their right and title >cds in question, and is in possession the undersigned is of opinion tha^ no objijction to the Minister of the giving effect to the arrangements e bad made anterior to the decision oned in his report by issuing licenses isual way." under this opinion licenses were luch of those to whom the Minister trior had been previously authorized lem who returned their cotes of the number of twenty-one. The whom these licenses were granted B department by way of advance sum of $8035 84 ; and two of them compete, in consequence of there sr applicants, paid in addition $1124 bonuses. ONLY ONE OP THESE ^ONE LICENSEES EVER CUT A T TIMBER IN THE «' DISPUTED >RY " ; THE LAST OF THE LI- BXPIRED ON THE 31st DECEM- ) ; AND THE GOVERNMENT :VERY CASE REFUSED TO RE- BM, 19 oting under the same opin- -s in council were passed in the ^ . of 1884, and subsequent to the llth 84, authorizing the Minister of the issue licenses to twenty-four ap- But these were never acted upon, icensa having been issued undor cieiiuul eirur iu tueSv Otdeld ilk s led to some misapprehension ou I Government isbued in all twenty -two yearly licenses, but only one of the licensees has ever cut timber under the authority of these licenses ; they have all lapsed and the Gov- ernment has refused to renew them. Six of those for whom orders-in-counoll were passed, but who never obtained licenses, paid by way bjuus for the limits they were applying for, the aggregate sum of $4137 50. Some permits were granted, and it is proper to refer to them. In all sixty-four of these permits were granted, flfty-aeven of thtm be- fore the decision of the judicial committee of the Privy counail, and seven subsiquent to that date. These seven were for cuttius: coid- wood exclusively, and they were all issued on Ist December, 1884. They have long hince lapsed and have not been r* newed, and the aggregate dues collected under them amjuut- ed only to $103 00. Of those issued before the decibion of the Privy council, thirty-four were for cord wood, and the balance for timber, ties, telef^raph poles, fence rails, etc , connected with the construction of the Cana- dian Pacific railway. No permit has been granted since December, 1884, aLd none has been in existence since May, 1885. There remains but the reference to the price obtained for timber limits. Mr. Ross, in his statement quoted above, says the government of Canada sold these limits at $5 a square mile, while the government of Ontario obtained $400 a mile for limits in the northern part ef the province. This is an utterly laisleading statement. The policy of the Ontario government is to give limits at an annual rental of $2 a square mile, and to charge seventy- five cents a thousand feet board measure, and one cent and a half a cubit foot on square timber as dues. The policy of the Dominion government is to charge $5 a square mile annual rental, and five per cent upon the selling value of the lumber at the mill, which, on first class timber at any rate, is much more than the dues charged by the Ontario Government. The $400 is the bonus, and it may be assumed is the highest bonus ever paid to the govern- ment for a timber limit in Ontario. Mr. Ross' friends, the Mackenzie government, fixed the value of timber limits in the < < Dis- puted Territory," when they put the bonus at ^15 a square mile, on a twenty-one year le.:s^, with annual rental at $2 a equate mile, the Ijase covering control of the land as well as the timber. The rental charged by the present government op yearly licenses of $5 is much more than the price fixed by Mr. Mackenzie' 1^ goverjimenti including the bontUr^' ' \m ** ^ 7 *^ >'#i?*"'''