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Mr. Burpee sj\i»l:~ I thank you very cordially for the hand- some recej)ti(»n which yon have given iiie on ri.sing to address you, and look ujion it a.s an indoi"seiuent of my position, politi- cally and as a mem her of the Uoveniment. 1 reganl it as a mark of vour confidence in me and mv fellow candidates, and I shall accej)t it na an omen of the successful issm; of the pend- ing election. I think that as a (jrovernment we occupy a fail- })Osition before the country, and that the gentlemen who come forward to solicit your suffrages on the (Government side may Ik* very well satisfied with their position, as contrasted v/ith that of their opi»onent.s. The Hon. Mr. Tilley, ^[r. Pahuer and Mr. King have come out squaiely and avowed themselves opponents of tlui (fovernment, and 1 am very glad that they have taken tlmt stand, for in doing so, they avowed themselves 8upjK)iters and followei"s of Sir John A. Macdonald, tied and were.sent Government of the Hon. Alex. ISIac- kenzie, of which I am a member, and of which Mr. DeVel»er and Mr. Wehlon are sup|X)rter8, or whether you will go })ack to Sir John A. Macilonald and restore to him that confidence 3 wliieh was forfeited five veai-s a 'o. f do not think tliat this cunstitiKMU'V or this |uovinc«' will .supi>oit tin- policy of Sir John Macdon.ild and, wlietlu'r thi'v d(j or not, I am »|uit«' certain tlii'.t tlie Dominion will not do it. T ludieve, and the country hflit'Vj'.s in tlie integrity antl ahility of Mr. Maeken/.ie, iind I l)ejit!ve also flint, at tlie comin*; <*h'ction, he will he rrttniu'd to j)0\\er ibr another live yeai*s. On the Opposition sid*- you have Hon. Mr. Tilley, who has I in iM)litical life for 30 yeai-s. Mr. Kin;^, who has l>een a pnhlio tuaii for 11 years, ami 3lr. P.dmer, for C years. The^;. come forwni'«f'iis advocates of th«' ;^reat Tory i»arty, a stranj^e jiMittou surely for men to he in who at one linje claimed U) he Liherals. On the other side you havt- Mr. DeVeher, who lias l>een live years in puhlic life; Mr. Wtd don and myself. Our records arc hcfoie you, and you have to iud''e of us as vou ha\e seen us in Parliament and out of it. If you think the puhlic acts of the (Government have been such as to nu'rit your confidence, I v.ould ask you to AOte for the supporters of the (Jovernment. It has been rung in the ears of th(! p'M)ple of the ^laritime Pro\inc(s for the pa.^t ten or eleven years that the leadcMx of the Liiicial j»arty of Canada are hos- tile U) tlu.' Maritime Provimi s. There^ was not a dinner or pti'tlic meetinj; at which these chiirges were not made. Yet no nmn in the J)ominion is as litth^ op(Mi to censure of this kind as Mr. ^lackenzie. lU'. as Pr<'mi»'r, treated all paities alike. The late OovernnuMit dirun.s- wii.'k !-^ll 7,000. The Liberal Oovcrinnent since thev came into pow«;r four and a half years at;o. hav(; e.xpended !:'74O,00O in puhlic works in this Province. That surely does not look as it they we)-e actuaty the jiidgeH, and for othrr <*h'ctoral reforms. Thr Pifuiiei has voted for every Liheral ni«*a.sure, and the chary^es a^^'ainst him of unfairness ur<' wron<;, as his votes will show. 1 will j.'ive yon anotlu-r illustration of the friendly pait that Mr. .Mac- kenzie had acted towards St. John. In 1S()'.» he eny carryin;n the Intercolonial ity that route, as you all know great injury was done to St. John, anelled to incur a large amotint of need- less ex|tenditure. When Mr. Tilley addressed the electors here the oth»'r eV(Mi- ing and indeaxored to e.\j»lain away the statement that, when he sat in Parliament in the latteijiart of Octoher, 1^73, he luul his connnission of Li<'ut«'nant (iovernor of New Brunswick in his pocket, he said that Sir All>ert J. Smith and myself should hav(^ ex[»lained to Mr. Mackenzie, Mi'. Hlake and others the, true |K)s>ti«)n of ati'aii-s. I do not i-emendM-r that Mr. Tilhiy ever s»«ked me to explain anything to these gentlemen an'oid alhiding to it. No ♦vxplanation . that I could ha\e made would haM^ explained that older away. (Cheeit-!.) THK TARIFF. In connection with the candidature of the gentlemen r(!i>re- seiiting the ( )p|M)sition in St. John you will ha\e to take into account the protective jjoliey of Sir John. He is wedde*! to a protective taiitl", not only on manufai'tui-ed. gocxls laft on agri- cultral products. \ believe that a taiitf on Hour, coal and ssilt, such jiH Sir John ating they should not consider the men hut the |K)licv they will sujtjiort, for this contest is one of j)riucii)le and slumld not be decided on pei-soiml grounds. Mr. Tilley in his speech says that Sii John does not advcK'ute a I thirty-live \H'V cent. t4viiH", or iiny other tinift', luit .sinijily a re- taliatory taiitt'or i-cci|)rocity of tariHk with the United States. Huch a taritl' wouhl mean much uunv than thirty-tive |km' cent, on most articles in Home (iases, it wouhl mean ciglity [H-r. cent, ouch a taritr wouhl im|K)se a ruinous Ian-then ujKJn thii; country, it wouhl <,'reatly increase the i)iice of the necessaries of lif<» and i-educe the iiurchasing |K)wer of the wages of the woiking man. One of the j>ointH which Mr. Tiiley attempted to nu»ke against the present Govemmeiit wax that Mr. Cartwright had im))Osed H duty oji ships' nuiterialu in 1874, and that such a «luty was niinotis to the shipping interests of tlu^ country. It is quite true that a trifling duty of five per cent, was imopsed on a few ailicley entering into ships, hut the list is a short one and in- cludes merely lamps, lilocks, compas.svs, dead lights, |»lugs, iron kees, puujps, shackles, steering a]>paratus, wedges, cordage and varnishes. Take the article of cordage, the principal of the imported articles in this list. Undei* the fonner tjiriff it was admitted free of duty when imi>orted for .ships* use, hut .suhject to a duty of seventt^en and a half per cent, wluni imj>orte(l foi* any other jtur|)Ose. The result was that the tishennen and others complained that they were unjustly treated l>y the opera- tion of this tariff, the Go\ ernment got scarcely any revenue out of the impost, for almost all the cordage was declared to he for ships' use. The r(nt!mu' was defrauded, yet the grievance remained. The merely nominal taritf of liv(? \niv cent, now im[>osed on all cordage, n:akes scarcely any diiierence to the shiplmilder, and prevents a discrimination which wr' -egarded as unJTist hy those engaged in many other industria. pursuits. The Canadiaai manufacturei-s of cordage are better satisfied with a duty of Ave per cent, which was imposed on all, than the duty of seventeen and a half per cent., which was practically inojier- ative, and that from the protectionist stand-j)oint of the C>iti)o- sition, should l>e Batisfactory to them. And yet, while the manufacturers are satiutied, the shipbuilders are not injured. ^ HOW RETALIATION WOULD WORK. * Cei-tainly it is very amusing to find Mr. Tiiley, while in one breath he complains of a five i>er cent, tariff on ships' material in the very next demands a reciprocity of tariff, or a letaliatory tarifli' against the United States. I have prepared a list of some of the ai-ticles used in ships which would come under the oiiera- tion of such a i-etaiiatoiy tairiff, sliowing tlie previous duty paid 5 I! in Caiuula on sucli ai-tit'l«'H and tlu* duty tliat woidd have to be ]»aiet Kchenie lor a i-ecipi-ocity of taiiflt) witli th per cent. 30 ' ' Iron 5 " 71 •' Cniivas r> •• SO " Pitcli aiul Tar free 20 " Iron Knt'CH 5 [jer cent. 35 •• Iron Spikes ."» " 36 " Conipouition Spikes free 8ft '* snii'piN'(s. ^Ir. Tillfcv |)rofe8se.s to he veiT anxious for the praspority of our shiif|>ing intei-e.sts, yet tlie it-cii>roc'ity of tariffs wliich he j)i«oj>ose(l wouhl Ik? one of the surest means of destroying that intere.st. Under such a tnriH", a ship of 1,000 tons would cost ftljout 87,000 more tlian under our inosent tariff, and the slii|>- j)ing and shi|>ltuihlinel cniisers. In 1870, in a time of great apparent prosperity, their tonnage rose t« 4,171,412. l?ut hetween 1S70 and IS?;") the huhhle of fictitious pi'os])erity which had been luised l>y high ttiriffs and high jaices was pricked, and in 187o the siiiling ve.ssels of the Uniteulation of the United States hirgely inci-eased, and the cojisting tonnage of the United States nuist have increased to a corres}K)nding e.xtent, for coasting tonnage, owing to the navigation hiws of the United 'in. \' ! I-, i;- 3 > A StatfM, cannot In- urtWcti'd liy forci^^i foiujM'tition or 1»y >i liiifli tinifr. HrHiin^ tliiH fact, in mind, and inakini; allowanc** tor this iiuTcasi* of coawting Uaum;^*', we niayjndgr Iiow deadly was the i'tlcct of tliiH ta!''rt' on the foicij^n shi]>|)in<; trade of the United States wliic-ji ah>ne eonM feel its t-tfeets. Vet tliis is tlie tariff wliii-li Mr. TiHey wonhl like to se«' ini|N>se4l in Canada. ((Mieers.) A still nion- reinairkal)le proof of tla* iiianner in which the ujtl»liciition of thv United States tariff to ( 'ainada would kill our shiitpin;^ inter<^sts, is furnished l»y the e.\|K'rience of the United States with reference to tla-ir foicii^n traile. In IS-JI. of the imports jiud exjK)rts of the I'niteil States J^S jM-r cent, were carried in v<'s.s«'ls helon^'in"; to the United States, and only 12 Iter cent, in foreitpi v<»HHels. In lf<'.\[ the sldps of t)ie United States still carried J^O per cent. (»f the foreij/n traide of that country, nnd in 1S41 f<:\ pei- cent. In Ij^.')!. undei- a ;(radually increasing tariff; tin- proportion was still 72 ]H'v cent., antl in IHfiO, r»6 [K'r cent. Now, thanks to the enormous tnritf of the United States, ill l.-TT the imiK»its jind e.\]>oits of that cotintry carvied in vessels of that )nitionsdity were imt 20 pej' cent., while foreii^ji vessels csirried 74 per cent. Thus in tlie 20 yeai-s l)etween 1^51 juid 1^7H, the p<)sition of Unitetl Stjtt's ve.s.sels to foreign ves.sels in reference to the foreign carrying trade, was more tlian revei-sed, and this Avas brought alnait hugely, if not wholly, l>y the operation of the United States taiifi'. (Cheers.) RAW MATEKI.VL. I now come re.sent (.Tovernment Imving injposed duties on r.iw material and ]»laced 10 |»er cent, on machinery. As to raw material the Htatement is not correct. We laised the tjtriti' duty to 10 piM* cent, on cott<3n netting, cott\ n ).;iity that in (.•hinioiinin!c ot the Maritime Provinces, who nianily tisc l^hitk tea. as couii»are. lor l)h«ek tea and l'> per cent, nil vt'lore'in, and for i^reeii and .Japan tea 7 cents j»er 11». and !•') cents, otl ralortftn, e]aek and ll>] foi- :i,'reen. I'nder that tariti* even the poor- est quality of tea )»aid more duty than it pays now. Tlie jtoor man's tea. which Tvfr. Tilley says cost 17 cents per ll*., would, l>y the operation of the old tariff, have its price raided to 23 cents and a fraction, while mules- the ]n-csent larifl' ii would Ik' Imt 22 cents. Tea of a medium ld tariff" ]>e raised in \mv\ to '^'1\ cents, while l>y tin* present tjiriff its ])rice would l>e hut 30 cents. (C'lieei-s.) Th«^ amoimt of duty collected on tea.s by the late (iovernment, \inder their tariti", Was uuK-h ijrealer than that collected hy the present ( iovernment, jdthough the imports of tea were smaller. The foljowiny; return which I will read shows our im[torts of tea froui ISGI) to l'^77 and the amount of duty collected: — - 1S(>!> 8. r)-20. ()!).") 11,8. S DK), 12«; 1870 10, <>.•)<», iTS " 1. 140,<)48 1871 11,42«),:J.->0 " I,ir)8,2l2 187-2 <),(i7.3. (.*(;.•> •' 1)38, (;7"> 1873 24,37!),S«>.') none 1874 10.({02,9.S:» lume 1875 10.772, lie.) " .'iTD.fuSO 187«) 14,.M7,8r)7 ' .')2(J. \m 1877 1.3,482,(;."7 •• r>34,S90 During the fi.seal yeai-s lh<7(>, \^~\, and 1872, the Govern- ment collected duties on tea to tlie amount of .9.3,2.37,.'>.37 or an Hveratfe of .^1,070.1711 per year. During the }»aM three years the present (Jovernment have collected 81,440,7.'57 or an aver- jige of 8i^0,21.') per year, ulthongh 0,750,414 llw. (>f tea were im- :J l1 , |»oi-tfl in tli«' tlir^H! hitU'v yoiii-M Iteyoiul tin- import of i\io, tln-et* ibniKT VHsii-H. Hail the turifl" of 1H72 Imtii upiilird to the iiu- jiort of 1H70-7 tlm iiiuonnt of duty \m'u\ woulil have lieen 81,4G7,i»70 insteiKl <»f J^r).U,8yO, the ainonnt attnally paiil, hmv- ini^ :i »y32,4HO in favor of thr present (fovt'iiunent, Honio |»«u-tion of whicli wouhl ceilaiiily have conie out of the {•ocketH of tht! woikiiig-men. (Cheei-H.) H.nl tin' taiitt'of 1S72 iieen a]>pli(*(l to the iiu|M)i-t of tea in lH7r» -7(5 and '77 the iMj|m- hition of ('ansuhi, |kx)i- or nch, inHt«iul of payinj; >,()t,M) in t«idutiej*, wouhl have paid 8'^7r)(),000, or >!2,;il(>,(MH) uiom than they did )»ay, ho that tlie jtroHent Government, inst^'atl of ini- IKwing new iMirthens on ilw jieople, have h*.sHeni'«l tlic tea dutipH *l»y nejirly two-thirdH. (Cheeiu) The jioint which Mr. TiUey tries to mnkc witii reference to black tea paying more than green, i.seei' 11>., and the avemge efoiv. Tliey now get a hetter grach; of tea for ilw same price they had formerly to pay for an inferior grade. (Chi-ers.) SUGAR. Mr. Tilley had attempted to show that the duties imposed on sugar l»y the i>resent Government had been the means of closing the sugar lelineries of Canatla aunl destroying our West India tnide. Th(! fact is that the duties on sugar are more favomhle to the i-etinei- than they were when the late (rovmiment was in |iower. The real cause of the letinery at Mositreal closing, if it was neces.sjt!\ for it to close, was the largn drawliiu-k.s grjuiteer cent.; on the grades of sugar below No, 9 the duty wa« but 38 per cent.; on No, 9 and not above 13 the duty wa.s 44 i)or cent. ; and on the grades al>ove No. 13 the duty was 46 |)er cent. It re.iuii'cs no particular knowledge of the sugar tnulo Ui (>iui1)1h liny one to uni1«*i-HtHnnniient (lirotenetit tlie Canadian consumer and give him cheap sugar. The average price of sugar lias fallen from 10 cents for yellow and 12 cents for crushed Ix'twi'en 1807 and 1873, to 8.i for yellow ami 10 cents for crushed l»etween 1874 and 1877. While the former prices |a-«'vailed, one retiner in Montreal niaii*^ an immense fortune, lait to plac(^ such a «luty <»n sugar as wot. id neutralize the etfect of the dmwbju'k v»(»uld cost the country .**1,000.0(HI .i yiMir, and nither than do this it v.(aild pay us to pension off 400 men that were employed in the Mtnitreal retinerv at .^400 a year each, for by doing ho we wiaild save the countiy. which means tlie consumer, a clear .^840, 000 a year. (Cheei-K.) VVlicn it is couKidered that here in Ciin.ida we use annually al»out 28lbs. of sugar jK*r head, it will 1m' seen that chea]) sugar is an item of no small inqtoi'tanee in our domestic economy . The sy.st<'m of )K)unties on exiwi-tiHl sugar is, how- ever, one that is not likely to la.st very long, either in the United States or France, the two countries which have adopt<}lained of the terms of com]K»tition between the two coun- tries. In his reply, Mr. Leon Say ex[nx's.sed his disapproval of the French ti.scal arrangements, and said that the (Joveinment A 10 were occui)ie(l with tlic prepjiration for next antuinii oi" a bill to put an end to the l>ounty Hystt-m. (Oheei-s.) *THE 17A pi:k «*kxt. list. Mr. Tilley, in his Institute speech, the other eveninj.', Idanied the Government for increasin-,' the duty on unenunierated ar- ticles from 1;' to 17A per cent. Tfc says that he would have kept the duty at 15 j)er cent, on these articles, ami raised more revenue from others. Now I am (piite at a loss to understani the grounds on which he makes siu-h a statement, from the C)p- ^position jtoint of view, seeing that uiost of these unenunierated articles are manufactures for which Mr. lillev's ttartv demand «• 1 » increased i)rotcction. This 17.\ per cent, list gives us about seven million dollai^s a year in the shajte of revenue, and, as it includes most of the manufactured articles imported, it is almost the only list that inci-eased pi-otection would l)em'tit. Why Mr. Tilley should object to an increase of the «iuty ou this list, and at the .sauie time, advocate an increased duty on other articles, I cannot understand. (Cheers.) I'LOfH. T now come down to the duty ou Hour and coal, or r.ithei- the j>roi>osed y Sir John A. j\Iat'taiuing a Reciprc^city Tieaty with the United States nii,i;ht he Ijindcred; the other would impose us heavy duties as ]>ossil>le in tn'der that the people of the United States nuosin says Mr. Tilley, we mii.st have a reciprocity of tariffs with the United States to enable our industries to exist. The })hi'ase sounds well, but very few people have, perhaps, con- sidered its full meaning or the residt it would })roduce. To give ns a reciprocity of tariffs with the United States would add $83.85 cents to the annual cost of living of every family of tive pei-sons in Canada.. Recii>rocity of tariffs would yield some startling results to the manufacturer with respect to the raw material. The raw material for the foundry business, instead of j)aying an aAcrage of 4 per cent, as now would pay 40 ])er cent. A furnitui'e establishment which imjwrts say 846,000 worth raw material, instead of })aying ^2,700 in duties would l)ay .$7,800. The carriage manufactui'er, instead of paying 13 I)er cent, would pay 40 per cent. The lumber operator instead of paying 10 })er cent, on his supplies would i)ay 30 per cent. At present our manufacturas are quite a.s piX)S})ero\ft as those of the United States, and by fai" the lai-ger i)ai-t of the manufac- tured ai'ticles we use ai-e made in Canada. (Cheers.) For the ])urpose of illustmting this fact, I have prepared a statement showing the relation of the imports of certain manu- factured aiticles with the whole quantity of the same articles l)roduced in Canada, and showing the per centage of consump- T 13 -m\ tion for three yeai-s of home protluce and foreign produce in these articles: — 1875. 137(5. 1«77. 4)S cS vt ES » b <£S SS 4r3 is -rS S3 •*» ^? II I"? ^"5 I" 11 ZA ii ^ !ii 2i 5i Agricultural implements, 96 M 95 05 93 07 Candles and soai), 82 08 93 07 93 07 Carriages, 98 02 98 02 98 02 Cordage, 91 05 92 08 78 22 (4rind8tone8, 85 15 84 Hi 85 15 Hats and cn,\.s, 75 26 77 23 7() 24 Iron & hardware & machinery. 44 56 49 51 53 47 Boots and shoes 98 02 98 02 98 02 Harness and saddlery, 97 03 97 03 98 02 Sewing macliines, 94 00 89 II Tohacco and cigai-8, 80 20 87 13 88 12 Househdd furniture 91 09 93 07 93 07 Liquors, ale, beer, cider, 90 10 94 0(5 92 08 Whiskey and alcoli.-i, 96 04 97 03 97 03 Musical instruments, pianos, organs and (»ther, 43 57 52 48 ■ 54 46 Starch 64 26 73 27 80 20 Woollens, 30 70 40 60 41 69 Surely in view of such a stateiueut as this it cannot be said that we are not holding our own in the most ini[»oi-tHnt Hue of nianufactured articles, or that Canadian goods are being driven out of use by foreign tabrics. (Cheei"s). cahtwright's loan. Mr. Tilley,. in his sj)eech, criticized Mr. Cartwright's loan of 1S74 because lie had ])laced it on the market at a lixed rate in- stead of invithig tendei's for comj)etition. Mr. Tilley also spoke in high terms of praise of the success which he liimself had had with the hist loan which he negotiated in England in 1873. Ml-. Tilley, however, forgot to mention that the loan which he negotiated was a loan guaranteed by the British Government, and that Mi-. Cartwright's loan of 1874 was not so guaranteed. (Cheei-s.) That was a fact which was worthy of being men- tioned, especially ivi it is admitted by all who undei-stand the mattei', that Mr. Cartwright's loan of 1874 was one of the .best ])laced loans ever negotiated by a Canay Mr. Tilley with opposiujjf the sMraii}.;«'iiieiit.s for liiantin;,' .Slo0.nn(» to this Province in lieu of exjMHt (hity. That was not an accni-.ite stiiten)ent. ^Ir. C'ai*t- w^ight (lid not o]»i»os«' the ^rantin in connection witJi tlie Washini^'ton Ti«'aty, antl that it was a t laini whicli England slionld have settle«l. as it was given nj) in her interests. Mr. C'artwright was ulso charged with opposing the terms on which Prince Edward Island Inul enteivd the Union, The fact is that lie had remarked that tlie bargain was a hard one, an,(KK) Add as above 23,310,000 §25,901,000 ■ 1.') 'liese 01,000 Wf liave, tlieit'foro, as tlu'i^ross aiiuuiil I'XjK-iidituro for wliich tlif late Minister of Finance must )>«■ ln'Kl to ai coinit the enor- mous sum of nearly twenty-six millions of dollars. (C'lieei-s.) If we make a comj»arison between the expenditures of the late ami of tke present Government the residt will he very unfavorahle to the economy of the former. During the first year of Confederation, ISGS, the late (Jovenuiient ex]>emled }$13,4«SG,0(H) ; in 1874 the last year foi- which they are respon- sihle in the way of o\itlay, the expendituie wius i?:23, 310,000 an increase of, in rouml n\nid>ers, !^ 10,000,000. The expenditure of tlie present Government for 1877 was s23,r)li),O00, a nondnal inciease of .*?203.0O0 over the ex|>enditure for 1874. But, to make the comparison fair, we luust deduct from this expendi- ture the anioimt of increased intere.st and sinkinj^ fund which resulteenenditure of the Govennuent amouiited to 88,324,000, Hi 1877 this had been reduced to .>^6, 835,000, a decrease of 81,489,000. (Cheers.) In the face of such an exhibit as this what jaetence is there for accusing the piesent Goveinment of extravagance 1 Another item in the expenendituro in the following yeai-s. Just before they went out of otKce they ai)pointed to the Customs Dei)artment alone 111 new officials, whose annual salaries would be 858,076, and increased the salaries of 747 others in that branch of the service to tiie extent of $67,185, iKHng in salaries and increases 8125,262. It will be seen that the total of tlm three year's increa.ses of the late Govei'nment is 8157,857. Now let ns see how the matter stands inider the present administration. The figures for 1875 show an expendi- ture of 8682,673, being an increa.se of 824,373 over the previous year. For 1876 we have 8721,008, being a further increase of 838,335, or an increa.se from 1874 to 1876 of 862,700. Now, of this increase in the lii"st two yeai-s, a very considerable sum, is chargeable to the increjise in salaries and the new ap})oint- ments made by the late Goverimient, the full effect of which does not aj)i)ear in that year. Othei- items of increase were the costs of a law suit in Manitoba, which was in progiess when we came in; the Prince Edward Island service shows an apparent increase of 87,300, which was owing to the change of system which had before differed from oui-s, the officers having been l)aid pai-tly l)y salaries and partly ])y commission on the collec- tions. The amount of these commLssions now goes to swell the I'evenue, and the increase in exi)enditui'e is therefore only nomi- .nal, and is balanced by inci-eased receipts in this way. Then we have the sjdary of the Insi)ector of Customs for Nova Scotia, at $1,360, to j)ay. This was the late Government's ap})oint- 17 nieut. All Iiisjtoctoi of Customs for Ontsu'io was loquirf^d, the Inspector for Quebec not Kcinj^ iit)l(' to attend to tlic duties of l)oth Pi"ovinci.'s, and <;n(! .vas aj)j)ointed at a saliiry of >?1,7(H). Tlie we liave an Tnsjtettor for New iJinnswick anaid in two years .*2,oOO; paid Mr. Dnnscond» for cei-tain sjiccial services ."-51,100; new sett of J)Ooks for j»orts 83,(X)0; commission on collections paid the Noithwest Monnted Police .?8")(>, increased rtnts of Unclaimed (ioods Warehonso rtt Montrejd, and Custom House, Toronto, cost some 82,000, our leases having ex j tired, and we were not ahle to renew them at the foniier rates. The increased expendittire in ci^mnexion with the ^lontreal Customs House services has l»een spok<^n of. It was largely due to a clatuge of system rendeied necessary in cousecpience of large losses and defalcations there which had l)een going on for vears. In view t.f these, ^Ir. Collector Dunscomb had iecommende«l its imperatively necessary that additional lockers should be ap- pointed, and in carrying this into eti'ect, though the exti'a list was largely decreiised, an increased cost of ^0,000 was incurred; though the jn-evention of losses such as before occurretl would much more than reiiav the outlay. The service had been form- erly attended to by supernumerary tide-waiters, having no li- ability in case of loss or defalcation, as under the old system thev scarcely ever went to the same warehouse successively, nor were there any books kept of the contents of the warehouses. Things had been going on under this loo.se system for a long I>eriod. The investigation instituted 'by the (ioveinment re- sulted in the discovery of abstractions from warehouse to the amount of .*4o,000, in view of which the appointmerit of res- j)onsible lockers was strongly urged by the collector, and was carried out. Changes and increases in the nund)er of tide waiters and night watchmen, over reductions made, involved some further increased ex]>enditvne. The practice had been to employ the day tide waiters at night, for which they had been paid extra, though giving very inefficient service, and gi-eat complaints had been made by merchants and shippers in con- sequence. A consideralde portion of the increase at this port was due to the change in the cai-tage and warehouse system. Certain charges had been made for cartage, insurance, laborei-s and si>ecial charges, amoiniting in all to moie than the service cost, leaving a surplus which went into the treasury. These charges were not made in this way anywhere except in Mon- 18 •4 tresil !iiil Toronto. M«'ivluints coiiipluinutl and itrotestcd against paying tlieso charges unk'ss tliey were niudi' general and aj»plie«l to all i>oi-ts. In view of the justice of the ease the eoncessioiiK were niad<', involving some 80,500 at Montreal and ."!^3,500 at Toronto. There was also an increase on the cost (;t' heating the Government huildings at Hali'^x of 81,0<)(i, and an increase of ;*3,o00 for our ports establishod hy the late Government, and ports on the Stickeen River ii- 1873-4. It will thus be seen that of the increased Kxpendituie in the Customs Depui-tnient between 1873-4 and 187G, a very huge part was the natural consequence of the late (Jovernmeut's action. Let us now pro- ceed to examine the exi>ei!ditv ' of the following years. In 1877 the expenditui-e was 8'21,G05, showing a very tritling in- crease of 83'.)G. In 1878 there will be a decrease of probably 811,000, the expenpear that the increase in expenditure in foin- years is less than one third of the increase which they made in three. If we examine the contingencies account of the department we will tind that while it reached the large sum of 8-0,811, in 1873 it luid been reduced to 815,767 in 1877, and I believe will not this year exceed 813,000. (Cheers.) ( IVIL (JOVEKNMEXT AND SITEKANNLATION. - I now come down to the items of expenditure inider the head of "Civil Goveinment." The following statement, which I will read, will show the cost of the "civil government" from 1870 to 1877 inclusive, and also the iuciease or decrease from fhe Hgures of the previo\is year: — Increase. Decrease. 1870 .^20,349 $(iO,7()() 1871 (542,300 21,yol 1872 mx\m 20,889 1873 750,874 87,685 -^ 1874 883,()85 132,811 1875 009,2()() 25,581 1876 841,995 867,271 1877 .> 812,193 29,802 Mr. Tilley, I observe by his speech, accepts the responsibility for the enormous inci-ease in 1874, but says that there has been 10 itii increase since tor wliich the preseiit Govennaent in wholly res|)onsil>le. There was an increase of J?2i),581 in 1875, but this increase was tlu^ result of the increase which the late (tOV- •nnient niai>ling holdly with the expenditure and is re- solved to kee}> it down. (Cheei-s.) Mr. Tilley accuses the present Government of increasing the expenditure for superannuation ii?! 14,560 in three years. The statement is not correct; the increase in the cost of that service in 1877, as compared with 1874, w>is $40,384. There are now in the civil .service, of pei-sons entitled to sujierannuation, 500 j)ersons over G() years of age, 200 persons over G5 yeai-s of age. in the (Justoms department there are 88 persons ))e iveen 60 anentlitine by a still greater amount saved. (Cheers.) . - - POST OFFICE EXPKNDITUKE. In regard to the ex})enditur(! of the jwst office depai-tment Mr. Tilley has comi)lained of an increase, which, as in other cases, he has by grouping the figures in a singular way made to convey a very unfair impression. The j)0.st office department was a branch of the public service from which we do not expect to obtain any net revenue oxev the amount of expenditure. It has always both before and since the Union been run at a loss to the revenue, but the peojjle have the benefit. In remarking upon this service Mi-. Tilley might have had the fairness to gi?e the j)eople such facts as would have enabled them to form cor- so lect conclusions, iliKtciul of making tlit» veiy piiitial and misleutl' ing statenunt lie did. It is true that tlu* roportionate inciease in the postal acconnnoost olhce deficits are due. (Cheei*s.) We will now refer to the exi)enditure in connection with the Depaitment of Public Works as compared with the receipts to which Mr. Tilley has also objected. He states that the average annual deficiency in 1871-3 and 4, is 8102,468 against an aver- age of $602,742 in 1875-6 and 7, for which he holds as resi)on- sible. But in order to reach this result he deducts the sum of $545,000 from the ex})enditure of their last year, on the gi-ound that this sum should have l»een charged to capital account in- stead of ordinaiy exj^endkure. I might fairly take issue with him in this matter, but tjucing liis own statement and charging this sum to capital account in 1874, Mr. Tilley must see the necessity of allowing sirailai- charges to go also to capital account in the yeai-s for which we are to ]ye held accountable. Tlius for stations, extensions and changing of guage on the I. C. Railway, charged to ordinary ox])enditure in 1875, was the sum of 8341,- 858, for new railway works and extensions in 1876, 8153,504, and for similar works in 1877" some $200,000, making in all 31 .'?G'J4,.")72, whicli should, in followin;; out Mr. Tilley's i»lan, Ik? (IcdiK'tJ'd from ths t'XiKMuliture.s of tlit; three year.s. This wouKl iccluce the total exi»eiuliture of lS7o-G and 7 to .«?o.S4n,U90. Tlu* total revt'ime for the same yeai-s is §4,718,06*), leaving a (leticiencv of 81, 1-2,.S'24, or aM average annual defieiency of only !?374,108 instead of )?602,742, as wrongly stated l>y Mr. Tilley. To account foi- this deticiency, and a good deal more than ac- count for it, I need only refer you to the fact that we lose hy the P. K. Island Railway annually in round numbers ."* 100,000, and hy the Intercolonial, in 1876, .^400,000, and in 1S77, .'^oOO.dOO, making in all .^600,000 a year. The Island Railway and the worst ]>aying j>ait of the Intercolonial we have to do with, and the late Government did not. It would he interest- ing to pursue these investigations fuilher if time would |>ermit, hut I need only say that while we are oi»eriting400 miles more railway than in 1872-3, the cost jKjr mile has l>een very largely reduced. I mention this to show that the deficiencv is not owing to want of care or economy on our part, ns will appear by tJie following: — Miles i)f Railway in o])cnitl<)i). 1S7-2 .3 314 1870 7 745 Cost of ruiniiiiir. •S 95'), 110 1,4(31,073 Cost ;>cr mile. .*2,77(i 1,901 Les8 cost of running per mile 8S15 If we take the cost per train mile we tind that the cost in 1872-3 wa« 61.02, and in 1876-7 only 82 cts., notwithstanding that the average weiglit of trains had increased 20 pei- cent. (Cheei-s.) Mr. Tilley Iras criticised the })resent Goveniment with reference to their Pacific Railway policy. That is too large a question for me to enter into at this late hour, but I may say that good progre.ss is being made on that road. About 218 miles of it are now under con.struction between Red River and Thunder Bay, at a cost of alx)ut half that of the Interco- lonial. In three or four yeai-s this portion of the road will be completed a\ul Manitoba and the Northwest will l>e acces.sible by rail. The western poition of the railway, in British Colum- bia, is now at a stand but veiy elabomte siu'veys have been required to find a practicable route, and that part of the road is likely to be very expensive. The astimated cost from the Yellow Head i)ass to the Pacific is 835,000,000; from Red River to the Pass it is thought the road will cost 826,000,000; 23 and from Tliuiuler lj>iy to K«'(l River ^14,7(«»,(>0(>. Aln^ut $4,000,000 hits Wen hikmiI in Hurvrys; l)iit this was an ex|K'nssil)le, and the road will l»e {MiHlietl forward with all convenient speed. The object of the Government is to build this eiul of the road, as fast as |»ossible. In CfMicbision I have only to say that I hope I have explained ill a manner sjitisfory to you these points about which you de- HiiTd to lie informed. Mr. Tilley has referro«l to the ship of Htate and in>, expressed the Lcreat pleasure he felt at bein;;- present at 80 fine a meeting of his friends in Indiantown. It leminded him of a meetin*' ht* had held there in the same hall Unc vears ago, wliich was as full and enthusiastic as the pre.sent one was. He always had felt a warm interest in Indiantown and in Port- land. He had been much connected with it, he had live.l in it, and he felt bound to say had received a fidl and hearty .su{)}»ort from it, in all his undei-takings. (Cheers.) It was not necess- ary for him to review his political history for the pjist live yeai-s, for they were a reading peoi)le and had no doultt made themselves familiar with his posit'ju and the votes he had given. He could only say that he had used every eflbrt to advance the interests of liis constituents, and, for the Government of which he was a member, he could say that it had disposed of many mattei-s of a local nature for the benefit of St. Joim which had l^een i)ending for years. He need only refer in proof of this statement to the barrack ground railway terminus and Fort Dufieriji mattere. The Go^•erumf nt and its leader had moved in these and other matters in harmony with the wishes and in- tei"ests of the people of the Maritime Provinces, and this had been the course of Mr, Mackenzie while in Opposition. In all public mattei's which he had advocated and by his votes he had 2;^ iirty it at ule ii-ties of the (hiv. On one .jich' they liail 1>eloie them ^^l•. .Maekeiizie and his (ioveniinent, \\\h jiolicy Iniug a revenue tali 11" )>ro\ id iiiii lor no more taxation than was neces- saiv to majjita in th<' I uhlic services. (Clieei-s.) On tiie other hand they haii Sir John A. Macdoiiahl, who, in addition to the lairthens which he now carries jih a particinator in the Pacific Sciiida!, North«'ni Hailwuy Scaiiuhil, and other s'-andals, hears the hurthen of a iirot«ctive tariti", and express«*s liis deteiniina- tiou, when he «;els into iK>wer, to impose a heavy tax on the necess.iries of lite, nnd on nearly all the articles we use ii. the ^Maritime Provinces. It wjis for them to consider which of these two parties was Ijest suited to advance their interestH. They hail the Opiiositi-oi candidate-* for the City and County of St. John, supportiujjf Sir John A. Maodouald, excusiuLr him and adopting hi^ policy, hoth for the past and for the fntuie. Ou the other side they had the Government. The i»olicy of the Ojtposition was to favor tho Outairio farmer at the expense of everv one else in Canada. They desire to ]>]ace a tax ou Hour, (.'oal and salt, all of which it is the interest of the Maritime Provinces to have jus cheap as |)ossihle, Jind free from taxation. The personality of Mr. Weldon, Mr. DeVeher and hiui.solf sinks into insigniilcance os compared with the <;reat .|uestion whether the necessaries of life shall he taxed and made le of the ]Mariti!ue Pi (Evinces. Mr. Kin;^', in his speech in Partland, the other night, referred to l)he Pacific Sci'.ndal as a matter in which some of the mem her of the late (rovernment were not implicated. It was strange if these eorrui>t transactions went on without the other membei"s of the Goveinment knowing of them. If so, it shewed that Sir J^dm, Sir George E. Cartier and Mr. J^angevin govorned the countrv. It reminded him of what Sir Hugh said in his evidence before the Royal Coiiimi.s.sion when lu) said : — Mr. McMullin was desirous of securing tfn' 'i»/t'r-or ii>t-))ifi€rf< of f/ic Ooreninif'iif, and entered into engagements of wliicli 1 did not apitrove, lu I thofiijht H onhj a mule of pombr and tihot. On a calm review of the situation I satisfied myself that the whole decision of the question must ultimately he in the hands of one man, and that man was Sir (ieorge E. Cartier, the leader and chief of the French )jarty. Thi.s ]»arty has held the balance of power l)etween the other factions. It has sustained and kept in office and existence the entire ( rovemment for the last five years. 24 ■ ! .?.'.■ It consists of 45 men who have ft)Ilowe(l ("artior rall liis maasuros. The (roverniutjut majority in Parliament being generally le^s than 45, it follows that the defection of one-half or two-thirds wonld at any time put the (Toverninejit out of ollioo. It was, therefore, evident that some means must be ailo^tted to bring the in- fluence of this compact body of members to bear in our favor, and as I soon made up my mind wh.at was the best course to pursue. I did not lose a moment following it up. This slioAv.s that it was the i)olicy of Sir Hugh Alhui to ])Uichase the Government tirst, and having succeedetl in this to retain tlie Pacific Railway Chai-ter and with it the means of hohling on to the C^o^'enlment of tlie country for tlie next thirty years. The foHowing letter shows how Sii- Jolni. Sir Geo. E. Cartier anelow. Very truly yours, Sir Hu(;h Allan. (Signed.) Geo, E. Cartier, NOW WANTED. Sir John A. Macdouald 825, OCX) Hon. Mr. Ivangevin 15,000 Sir G. E. C 20,000 Sir J. A. (add'l) 10,000 Hon. Mr. Langevin (add'l) 10,000 Sir G. E. C 30,000 The foregoing certified to be a true copy of the original letter produced by Sir Hugh Allan, before the Royal Commission, lie Canada Pacific Railway which original was at his desire a'lowcd to be retained l)y him. (Signed.) Charles Dewey Day, September, 10, 1873. Chairman. Also hear the following extract from the e\idence taken before the Commissior : — The letter of Sir George Cartier, of the 24th August, of which a copy is published, is in these terms : — "In the absence of Sir Hugh Allan, I "shall be obliged by j'our 8upi>lying the Central Committee with a "further sum of !?20,000 upon the same conditions as the amount written "by me at the foot of my letter to Sir Hugh Allan, on the 30th ultimo. "(Signed.) Georoe E. Cartier. " P. S. — Please also send Sir John Macdonald .^1 0,000 more on the " same terms. " . . ■ , ; ■ ■ ■ 1 : ■ ! , • ^ ■V .»■''■.■.•' ■ . 25 Here we hivve three leaders of the Goverinneiit all implicated in taking this iiK^ney and it" our New Brunswick rei)resentatives in the Government wei-e ignorant of what was going on inider their very noses it shows very great carelessness on their part. Every member of a Goverinnent is responsible for all the acts of the Government, and that beinj: so Mr. Tillev nnist stantl or fall by the record of the Government of whicli he was a member. (Cheers.) Some of the Opposition had taken oftence because in his s})eech at the Institute he s^mke of them as Tories, but he made the remai'k advisedlv. While he looked unon the Hon. Mr. Mackenzie as one of the noblest Liberals and Reformers of the Dominion, he regarded Sir John as the leader of the Tory i)arty, and if the 0})position candidates allied themselves v/ith him they must be counted as Tories also. Sir John in a speech which he delivered on the 31st July of this year, calls himself a Tory. He says :— I Avas brought up nn old Tory, in fact I was an old Tory when I was tv Tory when I was a Ixiy. My fatlier was a Tory before me and I am not ashamed of the name, and whether it is known as the old Tory,' or is merged into the modern Conservative, I am proiiud of lielonging to that party. He was, thei'efore, warranted in placing them on the Tory list as followers of Sir John A. Macdonald, who is a Tory d3'eaid was too high. He now came down to 26 li ■■'■i\ the matter of tlie unsettled claims of New }3nniswick, which hod l->een an annual offerini' for a lon<; time. One item was the sum of $150,000 on account of Eastern Extension. This was for the line between Painsec and the Nova 8cotia line, which had been commenced by a comi)!iny under contract with the Government of New Brunswick. This line was from nine to eleven miles l(ni;,'er than it iiced liave been, and the hite Govern- ment was at first not disposed to make it a })art of the Inter- colonial. jVIr. Sandford Fleming was sent down to report upon it, and he reeonunended that an offer of !?2-t,000 a mile be made for it, being the price for which, in his estimation, such a road could be built. The Dominion Government gave the Local Government 60 days to accept or i-eject this oifer, the under- standing being that if it should >)e rejected, the Dominion Government would build another line thro\iL!:h the same countrv, \\'hicli would necessarilv destroy the traffic of tliC road. That offer was made in 1869. It was accepted, and the sum of 824-,- 000 a mile was paid in full ol" all claims on thai, account. Why did not the Local Government, if they thouglit thsy should re- ceive more, ])ress the claim for additional comp(^nsation between 186U and 1>>73 ? He did not say there may not be some equity in the claims, but why was it lield back so loiig, and why should the present Government be blamed for not doing what the for- mer Governnu^nt did not do, but, so far as they could, prevented from being done ? Then there is the Penitentiaiy matter of which capital is sought to be made. By the Criminal Act of 1869 it was pro- vided that the Dominion Goveriiment shoidd take care of the short term j»iisoners, in the Penitentiaries of the Maritime Pro- vinces. This jtrovision of the Act was repealed in the follov.'ing year and it Avas ])rovided tliat short term prisoners should not be admitted into the Maritime Penitentiaries, but the time for this clause of the Act coming into operation was extended to 1873. It has since been extended from time to time until now. If tlie action with reference to the Penitentiary was wrong wliy did not Messrs. Tilley and Mitchell protest ngainst it then ? It is the lat(^ Government, and not the present, that should be held responsible for any damage that the Province lias suffered from that cause. If the Provincial Government desire to have the question, which is a legal one, settled, let them make iip a special case and refer it to the 8uj)reme Court of Canada for final adjudication. , • . . "z 07 •J I Auotlior cluirrre a;^aiust jNIr. Mackenzie was that lie opposed the grant of Sir)(>,0()0 to New Brunswick in lieu of tho export duty on lumber. He always said that our claim for compensa- tion on tliat account was a just one, and that, although we did not collect as much as iirloO,00() a year expo.it duty, we might have collected as much or moi-e th.in that had we chosen to do so. The amount was fixed ly a connnittee who had all the facts l)pf(>re tlieni^^ and neithei- Mi: Mackenzie nor iNlr. t'art- wi-ight oj)jtosed the grant. Its only opponents, indeed, were friends of the late Uovernment. Mr. Palmer, who claims so much credit in the matter, was not on the committe that fixed the amoun*- at all. Mr. Tilley then said tlnit the amount wa.s huge anil that it shouhl he taken in lieu of all claims. He says that the New Brunswiek memlters refused to consider it as shut- ting out any future claims which they did. Mr. Caitwright's opposition was not to this grant of .*?1.") 0,000, Init to tho addition of sucli an enormous addition to the debt of the Dominion as was made in 1873, when nesidv .^11,000,000 of the debt of Quebec and Ontario was added to the debt of the Dominion. IM)-. Burpee then went on to show the addition which a pio- t('cti\ -.-^ tariff, or a reciprocity of tariflTs with the Ignited States would make to onr l)urthens. He quoted the figures on this head used in the In.stitute speech, which we have alieady ])ub lished, and showed also that one foundry in New Brunswick which now paid 1*^4,1)80 in one yeai-. on account of all its mate- ri.d, would luno paid iir-i 1,365 on the same material inidcr the United States tariff. The foundry business w.is one which had been spoken of as needing protection, but it was infinitely l)et- ter off under the existintj tarilf than it would 1)e inider the present tarifl' of the United States. The same was true with regard to the lundjering interests; a luml)ering est;il>lishment that now paid $1G,000 duty on its supplies woidd })ay iir-40.000 under the United States tariff, and a fm-niture establishment importhig to the extent of ^^40,000 a year, would pay !?7,800 in duty instead of the $2,700 which it paid now. It was quite useless for the followers of Sii- John to attempt to deny these inferences. For three years Sir John had been clamoring for a reciprocity of tariffs with the United States, and, as tliat was his policy, it nnist also be the jiolicy of his party. In one of his recent s})eeches, Sir John had said that he wouhl take the duty off tea, sugar, silk and expensive dress goods and put it on cottons and woollen goods, leather, iron and 28 such other articles of i)rime necessity. When asked liow hi' wouhl raise enoufi^h revenue in this way he said tliat under his j)ro})ose(l tariff the manufacturei-s would become so rich that they would he able to afford more wine, spirits and other luxu- ries and so add to the revenue. That wsvs tlu; tnie Tory Pro- tection doctrine to make masses j)Oorer, while a few manufactu- rers were being made so rich as to Ije able to indulge themselves and }»urchase more luxuries. (Cheere.) The 0})position candidates now professed great sym})athy for the manufacturers, but they did not show any gi-eat sym})athy for them when they were in power. They gave mnnernus con- tracts to i)eoi)le in the United States for railway plant and other articles for the use of the Government, and in every case remitted the duties, thus enal)ling the United States manufac- turers to compete with our own })eople. As soon as we came into power we ])ut an end to that way of doing things, and passe;! an Orvler in Council placing a duty on all articles for the Cxovernment contracted for ^tside of Canada. The result has been tliat we have never since that time bought a locomotive or a car outside of Canada. Our own workshops and our own men have done all this work for us. (Cheei-s.) The Government have been accused of getting five locomo- tives for the Windsor and Annajwlis Railway repaired in the United States. In that case the rei)aii's were necessary to be made at once, and they were not sent abroad until Messrs. Harris, and Fleming, and the Halifax and Moncton workshops were fully emjdoyed. (Cheers.) The Government had stu- diously kept u[) that rule of employing our own people. Mr. Harris his h id large contracts from us not one dollar of wliich he would hive received if the j)olicy of our predecessors had been pursued. (Cheers.) The statements which he had made at the Institute with ref- erence to the tea duties had been questioned, but he there and tlien reallirme I them. There was no move duty on black tea now than on green; the j)erc3ntage was the same on the cost of both, and the }>oor paid no more duty than the rich. Mr. Tilley had stated that we had mined the ten trade, by which he meant the abolition of the differential duty of 10 per cent, on tea la-ought from the United States. That differential duty wrougiit great injustice to the peojde of the Maritime Province.s, for it j)reventeil our merchants from j)urchasing tea in New York or Boston, or wherever they could get it chea[)est tind best. liow hi' luder his ich that ler hixu- '<3iy Pio- luutaotn- einselves )athy tor yiii})athy fOUH cou- aiit and :ery case luanufac- \ve came ngs, and ?.s for the e;sult has iiotive or our own loconio- l in the ry to be Messrs. )rkshops lad stii- Mr. which :>y^ liad 'ith ret- ire and lack tea lie cost Mr. Ihich lie lent, on ll duty Ivincei?, n New id best. 29 Such an arrangement as a differential duty of 10 per cent, was of coui'se a veiy nice one for a few tea monopolists in Ontario, })ut it was decidedly in the interest of the Maritime Provinces to have it removed. The deju'ession in the tea tiade which had l)een so much s}>oken of arose, not from the action of the present (government, but because of an excessive import of tea in 1873. In ordinarv years Canada con.sinned from 10,()()0.()00 to 12,- 0(M),(I()0 lbs. of tea, Ixit in 1873 upwards of 24,000,000 lbs. of tea were imported, or more than double the ordinary im})ort, and the result of this speculative movement had been to clog the tea market almost ever since. The amount collected on tea in the sha]»e of duties is now much less than" what was collected under ilu^ tariff of the 1-ite Government. (Cheers.) But if the present Clovernment has imj)osed a duty on tea, it has greatly reduced the d\ity on oil. The amount of oil con- ;;nmed annually in New Brunswick is 800,000 gallons, and the .savin<' to this Province from the duties remitted on oil is not lesss than ."^l 40,000 a year. Mr. Tilley had ([uestioned the statement that the imposition of the U. S. tju'iff wouhl increase the cost of living to each family of live in Canada by the sum of .*85.8o, but he (Mr. B.) maintained that it was correct. That would l)e the effect of the increase of duty, for the increased rice of this flour per barrel was $G and the addi- tion of a 20 1^1- cent, duty, on the principle advocated by Mr. Tilley would have cost the Maritime Provinces the neat sum of ."^1,081, 140. Of this 8226,088 would have gone into the Treasury and 885r),0r)2 would ha^e been given to the farmers of Ontario. That was the practical effect to the Maritime Pro- vinces of Sir Jolui's tariff. Do the electors of St. John desire such a reciprocity of tariffs as that? (Cheers.) He could only conclude by a.sking every elector present to give Mr. Weldon and himself his hearty sup];)Oi-t if they l)elieyed in the jnesent Covernment, and to jdace them at the head of the poll. (Hearty and prolonged cheei-s.) Tlie (jOTernment and the Opposition; A Contrast. Speech of the HON. MK. BTJRPEL in Carleton. ^Ir. Burpee, on rising, was gieetecl witli hearty cheers, said : — Ht Mr. Chairman ami O'eudem/iii, — T am deeply grateful to my Carleton friends for 'the reception extended to us. I have always had a kind reniembi-ance of the generous support which you gave me upon former occasions when I had the honor to appear as a candidate, and shall bf glad to receive the same upon the piesent occasion. The Gov- ernment and the Oi)position are both on theii- trial. On tlu' one hand we have the great Liberal party of Canada and the Government of the day, under the leadership of Mr. Mackenzie, whose I'ecord for the j)ast five years you know. I believe that the adn\inistration lias the confidence of New Brunswick, to which it has always extended fair l)lay and justice, and the Do- minion at large. (Cheei'S.) On the other hand \'e have the Opi)Osition, who have .selected Sii- John A. Macdonald as their leadei*. Sir John boasts thiit he is a Tory of the Tories, and his record in addition to the Pacific Scandal, the Northern Rail- way and Secret Service Scandals, includes the so-called National Policy of duties on fioui- and coal. The Government have but one policy for Canada. Sir John Macdonald announces oue policy in Ontario, Dr. Tu})j)er has another policy for Nova Sco- tia, and Mr. Tilley another policy for New Brunswick. Sir John Macdonald is the leader of the Opposition and mu.st be taken as the exponent of their principles. Dr. Tupper is the second in command and has been indicated by Sir John as tlie man on whom his mantle will fall. At London, in June of last year, Sir John, referring to the prospect of the Tories being re- stored to power, is this i'e})orted :— Whether lie would be spared to share in the triumph or not he could not say. If not there were others who were quite ready and able to take his place, and the gentleman who was mentioned in his address, his (Sir 1 Hi 31 ' John's) friend and ciille.ague Dr. Tapper, was one of tho^e to whom the wliole country looked up to tight the Ijattle of the Conservative party, wliother in the Opposition as he had done, or in tlie (iovennnent as he would do. Sir John Miicdonald has for some time proclaimed for a Pro- tective policy, wliicli would ))e against our interests in the ^laritime Provinces, as I shall show. Some attempts have been made to confuse the public mind upon this question, as also upon the (piestion as to who constituted the Liberals and who the Tory i)arty. On all the great (pu'stions of Electoral Reform that were })ropose(l in the tiist and second Parliaments, Mr. Mackenzie voted steadily for just such reforms upon these questions as had been already carried in New Brunswick. Sir Joh]i oi)posed e\ ery one of those reforms and Mr. Tilley voted with him. (Cheers.) Take the (piestion of postage upon news- ])apers. Mr. Tilley's Government had al>olished it in New Brunswick, but in the tirst sessions of the Dominion Parliament in 1867 he voted with Sii- John ^facdonald to impose newspaper postage again. (Cheers.) We reduced the I'ate of newspapei- postage 75 per cent, and made the sum collected thus payable at the office of publication. In 1875 we reducetl the rate on other printed matter 50 per cent., and gave you fiee delivery of letters in cities. Besides this we have greatly (ixtended the mail accom- modation of the coinitry. We also leduced the rates of postage to and from the United States from 6 cents when prepaid and > 10 cents when unpaid, to .'3 cents with comjailsoiy })ayment. To Great Britain down to 1876, the rate was 6 cents by Cana- acket and 8 cents via New York. We leduced it to 5 cents by either route. (A])plaiise,) THE ROUTE OF THE INTERCOLONIAL. I come now, Mr. Chairman, to consider what Mr. Tilley has said about his own attitude and that of Mr. Mackenzie as to the route of the Intercolonial Railway. I find that some state- ments of mine on this matter were called in (piestion by Mr. Tilley when he spoke here a few evenings since. Mr. Tilley is thus reported : — Mr. Burpee had said that Mr. Mackenzie had endeavored to carry a resolution in the interest of the Maritime Provinces that the railway go by the Frontier or Central route rather than by the North Shore, and that Mr. Tilley voted against this resoluton as did also 8ir John Mac- donald. I defy Mr. Burpee or any other man to say that Mr. Mackenzie favored any such proposition at all, and no such resolution can be found on the books. (Long continued applause). ^k 32 Tliis I'osolution as it appeared on the journals of the Com- mons reads as follows: — "Mr. Mackenzie moved, seconded by Hon. Mr. Holton, and tl\c ques- tion being proposed that this House »lo now resolve itself into a commit- tee to consider the following proposed resolution" : — 1. That in the construction of the Intercolonial I'ailway it is of the highest imi)ortance for commercial and economical reasons to have the • shortest and cheapest line selected which in addition to thennain object will afford access to the Injst and nearest port in the Bay of Fundy. 2. That the Hay Chaleur route selected by the ( Government is not the one which will best promote the commercial interests of the Dominion or best secure the settlement of the remote portions of the Provinces of the Dominion through which the road will pass, and that while it gives the smallest commercial advantage it will entail the largest expenditure ' in construction and afterwards in maintenance and working expenses, 3. That in view of the serious eftect on the linances of the Dominion, and the permanent and continuous loss to the commerce of the country consetj^uent on the adojjtion of the long and circuitous route to the sea, it is desirable not to proceed with any work on those portions of the line not common to the Central or Southern routes, Mith a view to the adop- tion of a route which will give access to the sea l)y the shortest and cheapest line, without interfering with the distance to Halifax as tlie ultimate terminus Before this in December, 1867, Mr. Dorion, secontled by Mi*. Mackenzie, had moved a resolution that the location of the road ]>e not finally adopted without the consent of Parliament. Mr. Tilleyj with Sir John and the late Government, defeated this motion, and the Government by order in Council of 3rd July, 1868, adopted the North Shore route. Mr. Tilley excuses him- self for remaining in the Governmeij^ after the selection of the route contrary to his promise, by alleging that "competent en- ijineera said that the Grand Central must l)e abandoned on ac- count of the nature of the country ovei- which it must pa.ss." Mr. Fleming, on i)ages 70 and 71 of his report of 1865, says of the Central route. No. 4, that the only part of this line not in- strumentally surveyc^l is a distance of some 80 miles, of which one half had been })artially explored, and no insurmountable difficulty is sui)[)0sed to exist. The whole of the remainder of the line is entirely practicable. Mr. Tilley also tells us that when he and a colleague threatened to resign an order was made for the survey of the Southern route. He further objects, how- ever, to the Central and Southern routes on the gi'ound that being too near the frontier the British guarantee would have been witheld. We could, however, have built the road by one of the shorter lines without the guarantee, and saved money by 33 f the transiiction. Tlic line i-eferred to is sliorter from Rivioro (III Loii|) to St. John tliun the present one by 13f< miles, uiul if adopted wouhl have made St. John the great sea port of the Dominion. (Cheei-s.) Then, if we liad taken the Sontheni line there world have been no dilhculty of construction, as is l>roved Ijy the Riviere du Loup road now ]»eing built. By this route the distance^woiild have been shortened to Riviere du Loup by 163 miles. (Hear, hear.) MR. MACKENZIE AND THE MARITIME PROVINCES. Mr. Tilley lias statetl that Mr. Mackenzie oi>posed every l)roj>osition that was in the interest of the Maritime Provinces. Now we have only to consider Mr. Mackenzie's course as leader of the great Liberal party of tlie Dominion since he came into j>ower, to show how untnie this charge is, and to show that his l)olicy, both while in Ojiposition and in the Government, has l)een more in our favor than that of the late Government, of which Mr. Tilley was a mem1>er. As an instance I may men- tion his votes on the National Policy, on which occasions he voted against the duties on flour, coal, salt', etc., on every occa- sion. (Api)lause.) He voted against the increased duty on molasses. He voted against postage on newspapers, which were free in New Brunswick before the Union. And since he has l)een a member of the Government his liberality in connec- tion with Public Works in the Provinces has been larger than the late Government. (Cheei-s.) ASSUMING THE PROVINCE DEBTS. True, he did opjMjse the tissumption of the indebtedness of Ontario and Quebec, as follows: — $10,506,088 To which add Nova Scotia 1,544,270 • ' New Brunswick 1, 176,CSO «♦ Manitoba 79,357 «* British Columbia 280,084 Making a total indebtedness of §13,586,479 It is a question whether he was not correct in opposing the assumption of this large additional debt, which was done to satisfy more pai-ticularly Ontario and Quebec, and which had largely increased the burdens of the Dominion, of which we jmy a large share. Taking the revenue of 1875, which I made up at tlie end of that year, viz: $24,648,715, old Canada paid 3 A 34 per cdjtita 5?G.75; Nova Scotia 80.07; New Bniiiswick 87.77; Maiiitolia $5.62 ; BritiKh Coluinbui 67.73, aiul P. E. Islaiul 84.50, wliiclj goes to show old Canada i« aljout equal as to ad- vantage j^ained tlieieby; No\a Scotia was a large gainor; Mani- toWa was a gainer; P. E. Island gained largely, while New Brunswick and British Columbia were losei-s, jus they jKiid more in the way of additional taxation than the lieneftts received in projKJixion by the assumi)tion of the additional titxation jiut on the country. PUBLIC WOKKS EXPENDITURE. I iKjg now to refer to the unfairness of Mr. Tilley's remarks as to increased exjHinditure on public works chargeable to revenue, in which he deducted from theyesii"8 1873-4 the sum of •8540,000 for ex}>euditure -on sidings, renewals, etc., thereby making their increased expenditui-e for three years average .8100,000 j)er year, and made the average increa.sed exj^enditure of the present Government 8600,000 a year. Had he deducted from the three years of the present Coveniment similar expen- ilitures for sidings, renewals, etc., it would have averaged 8374,- OOO a year, which increased exj)enditure is more than made uji by cost of o})erating the additional 400 miles of railway run ]»y us through a section of country wholly uniidmbited. (Cheei-s.) Referring to the exj>enditure on the Dawson i-oute s[)oken of by Mr. Tilley, I have to say that any money expended on it }>y the present Goj^ernment was for work done by the late Govein- ment and going on when this Govenmient came into power, which we had to pay for. There were no new obligations on that road made by us. In this connexion I have to say that the Dawson Koad has cost the Dominion nearly 81,500,000, all of which was sjient by the late Government, without any tendei-8, but by days' work. Tliis i-eminds me of the charge made by the OpiKJsition against the Govenmient of the day for exj)enditure on the Fort Francis Locks done by days' work, as lecommended by the Chief Engineei-, which, in his opinion, it was impracticable to let by public tender, owing to the natme and loaition of the work. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Tilley made sciiie comparisons between • ' ' ' THE PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND RAILWAY AND THE NEW BRUNSWICK RAILWAY, the former operated by the Government at a loss os $100,000 a veai", while the lattei' is run by a company and paying. This is 39 < fts a very unluir coinpariHOii, an tlie Islaiul Rjiilway iK run thi-oiigh but a }K)i-tioii of P. E. iHlanil, the total }>oi>uIiitiou of that Pro- vince iKjing only some 94,000, without any connexion witli any other railway syKteni, an«l only l»y steamV)oat with the other Provinces of the Dominion during a pail of the year ; whereaH the N. B. Railway runs thiough a thickly Hettled [joi-tion of this Province, and luis connexion with Western Extennion and other railways. This only goes fui-ther to pi-ove the advantages, not only to New Brunswick and the city of St. John, hut to the Dominion at large, that woidtl have resulted hjul the Intercolo- nial l>een built by that route, which no doubt would Jiave made it a paying portion flf thsit line, and l)een an immense advantage to the chief commercial centre of the Pixjviiice. (Cheei-s.) SUPERANNUATION'. Referiing to what Mr. Tilley has sjiid on the question of in- cre;ised exi>enditiye for suiK^i-amiuation, I can only re|>eat my explanation made in the Institute, that the abolition of otiices, that have not l>een tilled np by this Government ha^e more than eomi»ensated for the increases since the Govennuent came into power. And as to Mr, Langton, the Auditor General, who has been lately siii»emnnuated, if I rememl>er coriectly he is over 75 yeai-s of age, though still an* active, energetic man. No in- cretused cost to the sei'vice, however, Avas made in consecjuence of this superannuation, as the Government alK)lished an ottice in the Receiver General's department, the salary of which was nuich larger than the amount jtaid Mr. Ljington for supeiunnii- ation allowance. While Mr. Tilley complains of the superannu- ation list he will remember that his Govennnent passed an order that no member of the civil service sixtv-tive veai-s of a<;e and upwards should remain in the .service unless s])ecially re- rei>oi"ted upon by the head of the depaitment from year to year for efficiency. True, we have paid no attention to this order. Had we carried out their intentions as regaitls supemnnuation and their practice for a year oi' two previous to their i-esignation the exjtenditure would have l>een much larger than it hsus been. (A})plause.) THE REFUND TO fJHE GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY COMPANY. As to the refund to the Great Western Railway Coni})any, referrey Mr. Tilley in his 8i>eech in the Institute, Mr. Tilley will remember that an order was passed by his Govern- 36 nient, I think in 186H or 1869, i)erniittin!^ cfituin pui-ts of loco- motives to 1)0 aercent. (Cheei*s.) THE ADVANTAGES" OF TAKING OFF THE OIL DUTIES. Mr. Tilley questions the correctne.ss of my statement as to the amount saved by the people of New Brunswick hy our re- ducing the custom duty on coal oil, nine cents per gallon and excise five cents per gallon. Exi)erienced oil "inerchants in tliis city, who no doid^t are well acquainted with the trade, have given as theii" statistics of the consumption in the Dominion of Canaared with the |X)j) lation of the Dominion our consumption would be 800,000 gallons per annum, on which the duty would be equal to the amount I have nametl, from $120,000 to $140,000. But to compare the prices of oil at the time the duty was taken off by the Government, and the i)rices ever since, the amount of saving to the puldic will he much lai-ger than the amount I have named, as any consumer can un- dei-stand, knowing the prices i)aid now and formerly, as the result of our reduction in the tariff broke up the monopolies of the west. Mr. Tilley, I presume, calculates the saving to the public of the duty on imix)i"ted oils only, but you will under- stand, and he must know, that any reduction in taxation affects both the imix)i*ts and production alike of any manufactured article in the countiy, as well as an increase of taxation would increase to the consumer the cost of home production equally with the cost of imi)orts. The conchision is admitted by all writere on ti*ade questions, whether free tradei*s or protectionists. Jolin Quincy Adams, himself a modern protectionist, expressed views of this school very clearly in a rejK)rt made by him, as chaii-man of the committee on manufactures, to the United States House of Representatives in 1832, as follows: — '- - "••-1 '•-1 37 Tlie tloctrine, he wrote, that «lutieB of imiMtrt cheaiieii the price of the articles ujhui which they are levied fteenis To couHict witli the first f c-oinnion sense. The duty constitutes a jwirt of i,iie jirice of the whole mass of the article in the market. It is suhstuiitially \mt\ u|ion the article of iloniestic manufacture as well as \\\nm that of foreign pro- iluction. UiM»n one it is a iHUinty, \\\H>n the otlu-r a luirden, ane ration for inrretiMiny the jirice of the ilotiiestir nrfirle ironhl fie to rejH-nl the iliitif iijkih thi idtue, artiele — an experiment which the frieudu of our internal industry will not he desirous of making. I.MMI(;H.\TI0N and yUAKAXTIXE. I come now, Mr. (,'hiiirinan siiid <;eutlemeii, to wlmt 3Ir. Tilley in liis si>eech at the Institute said ies|K'ctin;4 Innnigmtion and Quarantine. The tigines, from the jaildic ac-counts referred to ]»y him, inchuled Innuigration and Quarantine for tlie fiscal years 1872-3-4, as compared with the ■fiscal years 1875-6-7. These amounts include loans to Icelandei-s and ^lennonites, and Ituildings in theWe.st, which amoinits will he refunded to the Gov- ernment with interest. The true ex|>en«litTue for immijrration pur]>oses will l)e found in the re})ort of the De})ai"tmeut of Agri- culture, which wa>j suhmitted to Parliament after having been before the Innuigration Committee and there passed the closest possilde scrutiny. It has been the system of the department to make up theii" accounts and i-eport foi' the calendar year instead of the fiscal year. I submit a statement taken from the report of the Committee on Innuigration and Colonization showing that the Government, while tiiuling a very large expenditiue had been incurred, and was going on when they came into power, did, as soon as possible, reduce that expenditure, as will l)e f?een, while at the siime time the comiiarison as between the immigration to Canada and the United States makes a favorable contrast, the hist year showing increased innuigration into Canada and a decrease to the United States : — The total expenditure for the last calendar year, deducting refunds from the Pi'ovinces, was .^141,387, and these figures include an advance made to the Icelanders from the immigration vote, to be repaid, of .*30,' 716. If this atlvance is deducted, and it is not ordinary immigr.itiou expenditure, it would make the net expenditure of the year 81 10,670. As respects comparison with previous years, the (piestion would lie best answered, ]>y furnishing the Committee with the following statement, 38 tomineuciny with the calendar year in which an active immigration pro* p.*gand.ism oegan to l>e made : — ,. tJnwst R«rumls ': Tufiil ciriliiinry. Iiiiiiii^nitioii f(ir . < Kx|ii-iiilitiiri' Yi'iirs. Kxiieiiillturi'i. Proviiui--), Ic^s ri'l'inid.i. 1872 ^196,124 $196,124 1873 3()4,(M)0 ^ 7,333 29(3,(317 . 1874 2,jl,120 45,(345 208,475 1875 29(5,692 • 55,092 241,600 187(i 284,0()5 32,052 252,013 1877 183,672 42,285 110,(>7() In tlie last item tliere is a fiii-ther deduction of the Icehindic advance, already referred to of $30,717, which ought to be deducted in order to obtain x\ correct appreciation of the ordi- nary expenditure of the last year, which is much less than that of any other year since 1871. The numbei- of immigrants ari'ivinj; in the United States was: — . - 1873 459,804 Decrease per cent. 1874 : 313,339 31.84 from 1873 1875 228,498 27.07 from 1874 1876 169,886 24.65 from 1875 1877 138,222 18.63 from 1876 And the n\nnl>er of immigrants arriving in Canada for the same yeai-s was: — 1873 50,050 Decrease per cent. 1874 : 39,373 21.33 from 1873 1875 27,382 30.20 from 1874 ■876 25,633 6.38 from 1875 - .• Increase per cent. 1877 27,082 2.()5 from 1870 The statement of Mr. Lowe as to the cost per capita of the . immigrants arriving in Canada in 1877, as compared with pre- vious yeai-s is as follows: — Taking the net ordinary expenditure with the deductions I have before given, and the total number of inmiigrants reported to have settled in the Dominion, the jter capita cost in the years referred to would be as follows : — 1872 ^5 51 1873 5 90 1874 5 29 1875 §8 82 1876 8 85. 1877 4 06 APPOINTJIENTS AND INCREASES OF SALARY BY THE LATE GOVERNMENT. Respecting the appointments niade by the late Government, Mr. Tilley is reported as follows : — ~-A 39 - We are charged with having increased the salaries of 120 officials and making 400 new appointments. These salaries were increased on the application of the officials, upon the grounds of the increased exjienses * of living. The increase of salaries was 8an<;tioned by Parliament six \0' ' months previous to our resignation, and the distribution was made four montlis previous. The four hundreointmentH, number of in- creases, or the time when the apj)ointments were made. The total number of new jipiwintments made between 1st January and Gtli November, 1873, in the several depai-tments was 629, and the total nmnl)er of olHcei-s who had their salaries increased was 1381, making a total annual charge ujwn the le venue of .^475, 293. None of these a})jK)intments or increases were made beibre 1st January, 1873, as stated by Mr. Tilley. The follow- ing is a statement of tlut numl>er aiijKiinted, or whose salaries were increased in each tlepartment after that date and before 6th November:- — Departments. firov. (rcneral's Office, . — Privy Council, 1 Secretary of State, ... 9 Public Works 28 Justice, 75 Interior, 19 Customs, Ill Militia, G Inland Revenue, 84 Finance, 17 Receiver General 2 Agriculture, 41 Marine and Fisheries,. 159 Post Ollice 77 Appoiiitnioiits. Increase. Totiil. No. Amt. No. Aiiit. No. Amt. Nil. 3 §3;W 3 8350 i5!70O () 820 7 1,520 4,(390 9 820 18 6,340 21,54fi 171 19,074 199 40,620 77,800 11 1,700 86 79, .560 14,076 25 5,010 44 19,080 58,076 630 67,185 747 125,262 5,()00 18 2,677 14 3,277 30,515 9() 16,550 ISO 47,065 15,400 24 2,650 41 18,050 1,«00 t 1,200 9 2,800 35,025 15 1,178 56 37,293 21,JK)0 99 9,025 208 30,915 36,020 311 22,220 388 58,250 Totals, 629 §323,943 1381 8152,350 2910 ^75,298 40 These aijpointments, 629 in number, were exclusive of any a})pointnient.s made to fill vacancies during thnt time. Tkei'e were 58 ai)pointment.s to fill. vacancies l>esides these. Twenty- five of these appointments only were in P. E. Island, leaving some 40 appointments in the Customs Department alone, in the Island, continuing as befoie Confederation, paid by commissions on the amounts they collected. The number of new apjwint- ments made after 1st July, 1873, but nearly all between 20th October and 6th November, 1873, was 374, and the increases to officers number 073, making a total charge of $252,214 per annum. Of these latter appointments the present Covernment cancelled those that were made after the motion of Want of Confidence against tlie late Government was placed on the table of the House, to the extent of $52,865 in annual salaries. No persoji knows better than Mr. Tilley does the difficulty of can- celling orders in Council, making these ai)pointi)ients after having Ijeen recommended by the Government of the day and being a})i)roved of by His Excellency the Governor Genei-al. (Ap})lause.) . , ' THE SURPLUS CLAIMED BY THE LATE GOVERNMENT. I :ome now to what Mr. Tilley has said respecting the surplus revenue of $11,000,000 over the exj)enditure during their six yeai's of povver. While he si)eaks of this surplus he does not not sjieak of the small amount of exi)enditui'e for Public Works out of Consolidated Fund from 18G8 to 1873, which was only $3,834,505. In four years under the present Government, from 1874 to 1877 inclusive, we have paid out of the same fund for this })urpose $6,794,841. Out of cnpital account they spent in their six years, $17,429,041. In four years, for the same jmrpose, we spent $26,931,734. Referring to what he has mentioned about acce[)ting the lowest tenders for contracts, the average of lowest tenders accepted by the late Government in 1871, 1872 and 1873 was 34 per cent., while under the present Government, 1874, 1875 and 1876, it was i^G per cent. (Cheers.) And while referring to this matter I am reminded that the late Government adopted the principle of taking the recommendation of their engineei' as to whether they would acce})t the lowest tender or not, while this Government, as will be seen, have not followed the practice as referred to by Mr. Tilley, yet it is a complete justification for Mr. Mackenzie in taking ]\Ir. Page's advice as to the Goderich Harbor contract. I i. • 41 l)ai*ticularly as it was let a few weeks aftei- lie came into office, and therefore he might naturally have adoi)ted the practice from his predecessoi-s. (Cheei-s). ,^ - * Mr. Tilley, in his Carleton speech, also referred to the DEFICIT UNDER THE PRESENT GOVERNMENT at $5,000,000. He must be mistaken as rejrards the amount, as the actual deficiency for three years was $2,574,831. This deficit can be accounted for in two ways. First, by the lanre increase of expenditure in interest and sinking fund caused by the late Gov- ernment, which would amount to $3,412,095. This deficiency could be accounted for in another way — by the great depreciation in the value of merchandize imported into the Dominion on which we collect an ad valorem duty. Any merchant will, I am sure, bear me out when I say that the depreciation in general imports for 1876, as against 1874-5, would be at least 15 ]}ev cent. This would reduce our revenue for 1876 $1,214,156. For the year 1877 the reduction would be at least 20 per cent, on the general average, which would make a reduction in our revenue for 1877 of $1,938.299— a total of $3,147,455 less than we would have collected had the values of merchandize continued as they were in 1874 and 1875. I am referring now to customs only, and the reduction in value here named has been ascertained from full in- (|uiry of merchants in various parts of the Dominion, who, as continual importers, are well ({ualiiied to give correct, information. COMPARATIVE EXPENDITURE OF THE TWO GOVERNMENTS. ]Mr. Tilley also refers to the exi^enditurc of the late Government and the present Government as compared. I submit a statement of the expenditure on account of the consolidated fund : — CONSOLIDATED KUM D. Uiuler late Government, 1^71, .^1"), 023,082 1874, 23,32f),31<) m.y << << Increase, 3 7,093,234 Under present firoveniment, 1874 23,210,31() 1877, 23,519,302 Increase $202,980 This includes increased interest and sinking fund amounting to $1,390,254. This expenditure is divided under three heads: Charges for Debt and Subsidy, Ordinary Expenditure, and Charges on llev- .42 eiiue. The first of these is uncontrollable by any Government when large expenditures are jroin«r on for Public Works, money having to be borrowed to carry them on, as the interest increases largely in consef|uence. (•har<;ks ox uebt and scrsidv. Umler late (iovemment, 1871, $ 8,63S,66G 1874, 10,255,798 Increase, $ 1,017,232 Under present Goventinent, 1874: 10,255,798 1877 11,488,347 (Uncontrollable) Increxae, ■; ^ 1,233,529 The second is Ordinary Expenditure, which by judicious man- agement, a Government can control as will be seen by the following statement, the present Goveniment have largely reduced notwith- standing the engagements left them by their predecessors : ORDINARY EXVENDITrRE. Under late Government, 1871, 84,610,402 1874, 8,324,076 Increase, ^,713,624 Under present Goveniment, 1874, 8,324,076 1877, 6,835,078 Decrease, .«;i,488,998 The third is charges on Revenue, which is difficult to decrease, as the larger portion of it is for services fixed for the collection of the revenue, such as exci.se, customs, post-office, public works, and other similar charges : Cliartjefi on Jievrnue. Under late Government, 1871, .i?2,374, 114 " " 1874, 4,736,442 Increase • 82,362,328 Under present Government, 1874, 4,736,442 1877, 5,174,896 Increase, 8438,154 On account of additional Railway, Intercolonial and P. E, Island : I have with me a detailed statement of the various expenditures under the head of ordinary expenditure and charges on revenue, which I will not take up the time of the meeting to go through wholly : -<«•>- 'f \w -<€■>- > Jr. • 43 C/V/7 Oovernvieuf. Under late Government, 1871, 8642,300 ** »* 1874, 883,685 Increase 3*241.385 Under present Government, 1874, 883,685 1877 812,492 Decrease 871,592 Cont'mijem'iexy. Under late Govenmient, 1871, 8153,293 ♦« ♦* 1184, 222,803 Increase, 8 69,510 Under present (government, 1874, 222,803 1187 158,366 Decrease, *. 864,437 DeiKirtment of Justice. Under late Government. 1871 8^114,41 1 ." " 1874 459,037 Increase, 8134,626 Under present Government, 1874 459,037 1877, 566,397 Increase » 8106,360 Caused by establishment of Sii})i'eme Court, Couit of Appeal in Ontario, and County Courts in Nova Scotia, judges having to be i)aid by the Dominion. Police, Under late Government, 1871, 839,547 - " " 1874, 56,387 Increase, 816,840 Under present Government, 1874, " 56,387 1877 .* 11,355 Decrease 8 45,032 * PfnUenfiariei*. Under late Government, 1871 8219,212 1874 395,551 Increase, 8176,339 Under present Government, 1874, 395,557 1877, 303,169 Decrease, 8 92,382 44 S Leytiflation. Under late Government, 1871, .?3oG,206 1874, 784,048 Increase 5H27,842 Under present Government, 1874, 784,048 1877 596,006 Decrease, .§188,042 Geological Survey. Under late Government, 1871,. $45,780 1874, 97,814 Increase. #52,034 Under present Government, 1874 97,814 1877 95,558 Decrease, $ 2,256 Arts, AfjricuUure and Statistics. Under late Government, 1871 $ 6, 17* 1874, 19,092 Increase, . $13,918 Under present Government, 1874 19,092 1877 65,767 Increase, $46,676 For expenditure on account of Sydney Exhibition, 1 16,887, and Centennial, .$87,885, in 1876 and 1877. .,. , Census. Under late Government, 1871, $159,506 1874 39,470 Decrease, $120,036 Under present Government, 1874 39,470 1877, 7,546 Decrease, *. . . .^ $32,924 Irnnwjration and Quarantine. Under late Government 1871, $ 71,790 1874, 318,573 Increase, $246,783 Under present Government, 1874, $318,573 1877, .353,957 Increase, $ 35,378 Included in this expenditure for 1875-6-7 are $184,617 for I cans, buildings, etc., not properly chargeable to immigi'ation. fit * -4 45 Marine Hoftpital^. Under late Government, 1871, 3 35,552 1874 66,462 Increase " '. 8 30,912 Under present Government, 1874, 66,462 " " 1877, • 62,408 Decrease, .' ^ 4,054 Pensions. Under late Govenmient, 1871 $ 52,611 •« " 1874, 56,463 Increase, . .' : f'. $ 3,852 Under present Government, 1874, 56,463 1877, 112,531 Increase, 8 56,068 This is on account of pensions to old soldiei-s in 1812, S50,- 000 in 1876 and $50,000 in 1877. Superanuation. Under late Government, 1871, 8 12,880 " " 1874 64,443 Increase, $ 51,563 Under present Government, 1874, ". 64,443 1877, 104,827 Increase, , ....'..... .' $ 40,384 Payments to this fund have increased $4,000, and $36,000 more have been saved by abolishing various offices. Militia and Defence Under late Government, 1871, §908,733 1874, 977,376 ■/- Increase, 8 68,643 Under present Government, 1874 977,376 1877, 550,451 Decrease, .8426,925 PiihUc Works. Under late Government, 1871, % 765,858 1874, 1,826,001 Increase, $1,060,143 Under present Government, 1874 1,826,001 1877 1,262,823 Decrease, 8 563,178 46 Ocean and Staam River Service. Under late (ioveniment, 1871, $359,039 1874, 407,700 Increase -S 48,()(il , Under present Government, 1874, 407,700 1877, 402,335 . ' ■* . . Increase, • '. '. % 54,635 1876 includeH the purchase of two steamei's, Newfield and Glemlwi. Fisherien. . Under late Government, 1871, ' ^ 97,827 1874, 76,247 Decrease, I 21,580 Under present (Tovernnient, 1874, 76,247 1877, 96,348 Increase, $20,101 Steamftoat Tnttjiectioii. Under late Government, 1871, $ 8,321 1874 10,291 Increase, $ 1,970 Under present Government, 1874, . . . . • 10,291 1877 13,073 Increase, : 3 2,782 Doinitiioit Forcex, Manitoba. Under late Government, 1871 Nil. 1874, 8209,169 Increase $209, 169 Under present Government, 1877, 29,969 Decrease, ." . . . ^179,200 Indian Grantn. Under latt (rovemment, 1871, $ 6,080 1874, 146,068 Increase $139,988 Under present Government, 1874, $146,068 1877, 301,596 ^ Increase, $155,528 Caused by new Indian treaties by which an immense tenitoiy has been acquired. UJ UJ ul 47 Domnuoii LaiuU. Under late Goveniment, 1871 .•. S 14,244 1874, 283,164 Increase, $2()8,920 Under present (iovemment, 1874, )5283, 164 1877, 8 90,022 Decrease, §192,642 MounM Polki'. Under late (Jovemment, 1871 Nil 1874 §!199,591> Increase S199,591> Under present Oovemment, 1877, 8352,749 Increase, 8153, 150 Tliis was cauHetl by the Act of the lat« Government. North Went Terrltonj Orfjautzdtion. Under late Ciovemment, 1871 Nil 1874 8 12,262 Increase, 8 12,262 Under present Government, 1877, .' Nlf ■ .^ Decrease, 8 12,262 United State)* BoioKfarij San'tfi/. Under late Govemment, 1871 Nil 1874, 8 79,293 Increase 8 79,293 Under present Government, 1877, Nil Decrease, 8 79,293 Boundary Simjei/, Ontario. Under late Govenunent, 1871, Nil " " " 1874, 82,430 Increase, 8 2,430 Under present Government, 1877, Nil Decrease, T . 8 2,430 Military Storf-s. Under late Government, 1871, Nil 1874, 8144,906 Increase 8144,906 Under present Government, 1871, ^*7 • Decrease, 8144,906 48 chak(;e.s on revexue. Customs. Under late Goveniment, 1871, 8o()0,441 1874 058,290 Increase, .^157,858 Under present Government, 1874, ^{58,290 1877, 721,004 X Increase, . 9 63,305 The result of inerejuses and new apjK)intments made by late Goveniment, change of system in P. E. Island, sundry changes in Montreal and Toi-onto, the ei-ection of new out jKH'ts, etc., as fully explained at the Institute. Eu-cise. -■ ■ Under late Oovemment, 1871, $129,563 1874, 206,935 Increase, $ 87,372 Under present Government, 1874, $206,935 1877, 211,157 ■ \ Increase ,.....' $ 4,222 Weiijhtu and Measures. Under late Government, 1871 Nil. 1874 Nil. Under present Government, $111,086 Increase under the Act of the late Government, $111,086 Inspection of StajAen ami Adulteration of Food. Under late Government, 1871 Nil. 1874, Nil. Under present Government, 1877 $ 5,551 Increase, $ 5,551 CulliHf/ Timber. Under late Govemmeut, 1871, " $62,130 1874 82,881 Increase, $ 20,756 Under present Government, 1874, $ 82,886 1877, , : . . . 68,n2 Decrease, $ 14,714 : -^ 40 Po' Increase, § r)71,701> Under presjent (Jovernnicnt, 1874, !? 1,387, 270 1877, I,70d,8ll Increase, $ 318,041 Caused by lar^'o extension ol" mail rides, new post ottices, free delivery in cities, etc. PuhUc Works. Under late Government, 1871, .^ 831,072 " 1874 2,38(Mi8(> Increase, .*« I , oihS, 008 Under present (Jovernnient, 1874,. !?2,380,()S0 1877, 2,351,8.32 Decrease, $ 37,S()8 This, notwitlistandinii' we run 400 miles more railway and lose $500,000 per annum on the I. C. Railway and 8100,000 on the P. E. I. Railway. THE DUTY ON SHIPs'' MATERIALS. Referrinii' to what Mr. Tillcy said of the duty on ships' materials, any increased tax on ships' materials made by us was only 5 per cent, on a few articles, nearly all of which could be made in the country. The object was more to put these articles for all pur- poses alike under the tariff, and not as before for ships' purposes free, and for other purposes c^utiable. And I may say that while the Canadian duty on ships' materials imported is only an avera^re of 2 per cent, it varies in the United States from 35 to 70 per cent. THE DUTIES ON TEA. I must auain. Mr. Chairman, refer to what Mr. Tilley has said upon the Tea duties. I still maintain that the avcrauc cost of black tea for five years was 26J cents per lb., on which a duty of 5 cents per lb. is equal to 18i per cent, ad valorem. The' average price of green tea for the last five years was 8.3 cents, the duty on which at cents per lb. is equal to 18i per cent. I further main- tain that the differential duties imposed by the late Government on tea, imported from the United States, were decidedly opposed to the interests of the merchants of the Maritime Provinces. The New York market, to many of our people at certain seasons 4 no of tli<; yrar. was uii iin- !iH,149,ir)6 2,050,480 Cliainuaii, (»se the re- ()U of duty Drmiimond e in 187a. d Sir John the time of utterances r years, in })hatically )wn in the reciprocity i,ir it a re- 1 from the f equal to t. on flour, I manuiac- id Quebec, respecting 1878, the ,ml that he that policy lied in 1870 iind that he to vote him (Cheers. ) T. ade by Sir "The (lovernment were anxious to bring Xova Scotia anil Now Bnnis- wick into the ( 'onfetleration. Tiiey found it absolutely nece.ssary for the eood of the country, that instead of consisting of several scatteretl Provinces we should he one great Doniinittn, and a source of strength instead of weaknes.-^ to tiie empire. Nova Scotia iiml New iJrunawiek had been accustomed to a nnich li,i|litor taxation than the people of Can- ada It/Ill thfrejorv in onlfi' to iiulitci' Ihfin to roiiif in tlit dull/ wim settled at IJ jier cent." His repeated speeches of hite, to<;cther witli these quotations, reveal to us what he will do if returm'd auain to }K»wer. that is to impose heavy taxes