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Su(, — M(.n(l;«y th«5 Simato will hocallefl upon ti» pnjrjoiince on the Ttunpi»rHlit««'H' Bill, Hud wo t;iiUH8tly ink honourable Kt^ntleuitn to wtii^h wt-U its (omiitlor i?, utiptcially tts tliu Parliamout of tli*) Do- . miuion has tiiken noon itself the duties ^ ,. of a court of law, witlmut following its procedure, hut iH deeiding a case upon the HpeecheH of counarl In a matter so iniporfaiit as this, wo rnav be pardoned for say i Hi,' that there hiiouKI have boon a most car»'ful e.\ainiDntiou and Hiltin(j ot evideuce. So tar a« we can see, there lias been no such examination, all the intormation aft'oided th(! comraittee bcinu: the Hpeechns of tlie promoterH and oppoBern ot the bill. As reprenentatives of the PreHbyterian Church of Canada in connection with the Church of Scotland we l^eiievu it to be our duty to k'vo our view of the position ot the (juestiou. The TemporaliticB Fund was formed from the moneys paid to the ministers of our church, aa a commutation of their porsouiil claims upon the Crown for htipeuds for which the faith of the Crown was pledged to them as lainis- tt^rsof t .e Church ot Sotland in Canada. The payments tor which the faith ot the Crown waf. thus pledi^ed b-lng ex- tiuifuished, the moneys ceased to be public funds and became prirate pro- ptrty, and were by ttie clergymen to whom they were so paid, placed in one common fund tor the purposes expressed in a certain agreemerit made at thd time of commutation, the de-ire of the commuting miniKtors being to make a provision for ttieir cliurch for all time, it being expressly agreed and stipu- lated that only the interest should b) U8ed, and that the beneticiaries were to be ministers of tlie Presbyterian Chun h of Canada in connecticm witli the with tlie Church ot Scotland. In i)nier to stro if^th'^-n and maintain the trust thus created, an Act ol In- corporaiion» calltd tht* Temporalitit-s' Act, was obtained in 1858 from the Par- liament of Canada, and under this Act, the fund was, until 1875, ttdministered ^ lor the benefit ot the church in con- uev tion with the Church of Scotland. la 1874, a majority of the Synod of t^vi'«« thur'^li determined to j»ln certain was curried out by the majority, Whilst these ttiinus were i^oinu: on, a mnjority the union, and, as stated, have been recognized by ttio Chtirch of Scotland a« being in the old relation. The hi^^hesi co^irt ot Ontario baa declared them to be tlie reprosfutatives of tlio old ctiurcb^ Whit follows? The Privy Council, in giving judgment ; say " I'he fund (ihis Temporalities Fund) belongs to tnose who represent the Prcsbyturian Church ot Canada m connection with theCliurch of Scotland, and the common sense statement of the position ot the churches shitWH that the minority never iravc up or left their church, while the m ijority wen^ 'nto a new church. The courts declare this to be the case, and the con- clusion is inevitable that the minority are the rightful owners of this fund. Believing this to be the true state of the caKe, are the honourable seMutors prepared to declare a fund which is evid' utiy the propv-rty of the representatives of the Chnruh io, connection with the Church ot Scotland to l»e the property of a body of men who have been adjudge«l by the highest court ot Ontario to have left that connex- ion ? Are they pr< pared to pass a stfitute declaring that a fund which before and up to the present dite was vested in the property of thone who adhered to the old church shall, by au Act pass d in 188-, become the property of those who in 1876 forfeited all riuhc to it; nay, more, that the fund shall be given to men whose only claim to it is tnat they wern a maj »rity, and votetl to put into their owu pockets money dHVOted and given, as a perpetual endow- ment for the church in connection with the Church of Scotland, or, to ustj the words of the ministers who gavn the fund, it was to be "for the general and perinuuent i;oodof the people committed to their charge." We would further draw the attention of the honourable gentlemen to the tact that they will, if they pass this bill, sanction everything done by the Temporalities Board, since 1875. What has been d^me no person k flows, except tha^ the capital (which under the TiU!*t whs in no case to be touched) has been depleted in the last Seven years to the extent ot about $135,000 — and that it is t)ein4 drawn upon to the extent o! $20,000 per an- num ; ttie charges on it now being SjB40,000 per annum and the receipts about $20,000 per annum, as per last |Tb8 in its preneut hhape, the L('gi>lature will sanction that which the Privy ] ■'. lilt 'of thi >, (llti I U , Uti; oi I boil T pan Hem KOtt fnon te»^ Dol del who of C ot i uair of tl the the I tica t('Kr< 1 %, lost C'liui tiie othn cast' of titlev beiuf tht' CuMU It tl obur( Chill as tb unior lieuti But to 8a| wttite his count in toriao Ib a same as wa On th alwuy old CO T" "7- ■ •■■■■•■■■vi'i «^ti ,0, Int., biiiortt i>t Itif «.liur«;li lu con- uet ti<»u with the Church of Scotliud. 1^ 1874, a majority ofthti Synod of t'Uuu (hm-'li det«rmine j )lii certiiin WMH ciiniod out by the rnujority. Wbilrit iluifie thinu's were uoinji 011, a ranjority 'of the HyniKi, Hupporttd by Vtry Inr^e numberB of the <.hur h, proteHted jigiiiriHt thid uni >u, and wlieu il:ti majority ,, wont to consuiunjtito it, [positivoly re- \ tiihed to go with ibem, Hiid have ever firiew refused to do so. They have cou- t ui^ed tlio Synod oftlie church in con- ■'4 uti'tion with the Oh 16 cuurcQ 1 urcli of S Gotland, ;<u^ iiito iiuion, as being •« in (he new slate 0/ things." The question as to which of the two parties now before PariJHment repre- wents the old church is what must bo Rottled. The impoitunce ot this arises frtni tlie fact that tl)e Judiciai Comrnit- lev of the Privy Council, in the case of Dohic vs. the Temjjoriiiities Boaru, have dclared that the fund htlotig to thof>e who rrprenent the Fresbytt-rian Church of Ciitiada in couuecticin with the Church ot Scothind. Those who went into union say they are the cliurch, becaut