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I GOWim, ESQ. M. P. SOUTH ESSEX, WINDSOR, ONT. Delivered in the House of Commons, Ottawa, May 1st, 1900, ON CANADf 8 TOBACCO JMnilQTDV IINUUU Mil. ^ /A y ^ CANADA'S TOBACCO INDUSTRY.. Mr. M. K COWAN (Essex). At this hour, Mr. Speaker, and at this stage of the debate, it is not my intention for one moment to follow the various arguments which have been advanced by the hon. member for Bothwell (Mr. Clancy), who has just spoken. But there are one or two statements he made, to which I propose devoting some small attention before branching into the two points on which 1 purpose dwelling l)efore I resume my seat. The hon. member for Bothwell labored for one solid hour to show— and apparently he argued it satisfactorily to his own mind— that farm produce in Canada to-day was cheaper than it was prior to 189fi. He then went on to show that the articles which the farmer had to buy were dearer to-day than they were prior to 1896, and then he made the startling admission that the farmer was prosperous to day, and that the whole country was prosperous. * * » ) » « • « There is another matter to which I intend to refer at some little length. I was extremely sorry and extremely surprised to hear come from the lips of the hon. member for Bothwell (Mr. Clancy) certain erroneous statements about the tobacco duties. I tell the hon. gentleman, that if he circulates that speech of his throughout the county of Bothwell, and if they take no more stock in the whole speech than they will in his statement about tobacco, then the speech will find a repository in the back yard before they get beyond that one single assertion. The hon. gentleman (Mr. Clancy) said that this government had put over $1,000,000 duty on the poor man's tobacco, and the hon. gentleman (Mr. Clancy) now nods his head in assent. I had hoped that by this time he would have recanted, and would have been sorry for making a statement which is so absolutely far from the facts. No one knows better than the hon. gentleman (Mr. Clancy), because he grows tobacco himself, that you can go into the market of the town of Wallace- burg, or the village of Dresden, where he lives, and you can buy for 66^ cents to-day the same amount of tobacco that you would have to pay $1 for before 1897. No one knows better than the hon. member for Bothwell (Mr. Clancy), that Havana cigars and fancy Virginia smoking tobacco have increased in price— that is, cigars costing from eight to twelve cents, or that you buy over the counter at two for a quarter of a dollar. Fancy Virginia smoking tobacco, costing from $1.50 to $2 per pound, and cigarettes, have increased in price, I will admit. But, Sir, when it comes down to the tobacco that is consumed by a large number of the members of this House, when it comes down to the tobacco that is consumed by the Minister of Inland Revenue (Sir Henri Joly de Lotbiniere), when it comes down to the tobacco which is consumed by the masses of Canada to-day, the hon. gentle- man (Mr. Clancy) knows full well that the price of that tobacco has been reduced by 50 per cent. BeforeJI take my seat I shall prove to the satisfac- G e;}85i3 PRY.. and at this follow the member for one or two all attention ling before I ae solid hour 1 mind— that to 1896. He to buy were the startling b the whole little length, rom the lips 3 statements he circulates hey take no iment about before they (Mr. Clancy) B poor man's id in assent. Id have been le facts. No ise he grows of Wallace- buy for 66% ;o pay $1 for othwell (Mr. jbacco have ents, or that Qcy Virginia irettes, have lown to the this House, Minister of down to the hon. gentle- :co has been the satisfac- tion of the hon. gentleman that such is the cas*. T Hr. «^* ™ .. x ,. leaf 18 dearer today than it was prior to the tariff of 1807 foreign Mr. CLANCY. Hear, hear. Mr COWAN I am glad the hon. member for Bothwell aerees with me m thai, and I hope he will go further and agree with mefn mv 1 ^ proposii,ion. While fancy foreign tobacco has incfeasedTprTce I 7y tha the duties imposed by this government have brought into P^i J!! • Canada a tobacco the equal in every way of tobacco "wch rnia^fal^^^^ from foreign leaf, and today you can buy one pound and a half of thif obacco for the same price that you paid for one pound prior to 1897 shall prove that assertion to the hon. gentleman (Mr. Clancy), so that when he again makes a speexh on tobacco he will not fall into the error h^has fallen into to-night^ Prior to the tariff of 1897, there were twelve plugs to the pound costing five cents a plug, or sixty cents a pound. You can now buy Canadian tobacco either smoking or chewing, equal in quaHty ^ tZ for five cents a plug, eight plugs to the pound, or forty cents a pound You can to-day buy a pound and a half for the same amount of money that vou paid for a pound prior to 1897. That means that the quantity of toba^eo that cost five cents prior to 1897 can now be bought for three and a half cents, or one and a half cents per plug or fig. cheaper than before the dutfes were arranged by the Liberal government. I have no desire to give a' object lesson m the^House, but if any one denies that statement I win reftr him to the standard makes of. tobacco. I have in my hand-and 7 «.ni mto the quality later on-' Consols' smoking tobacco, manufactured by Wm. McDonald, of Montreal, probably the best known man in the tnhJZ trade in Canada. Here is 'Consols' smoking, weight on^flfJS of a pouTd worth twenty cents a plug at the retail store-and I am dealing with th« retailernow and not with the wholesale man. because after all. it is with the retailer that the workingman deals. We have here five p ugs to he pound, at twenty cents a plug, or $1 a pound. I have another sample one of the best known brands of tobacco manufactured from the foreign llf • T. and B..' made by Tuckett & Billings, of Hamilton. The weigh of Jht^ one-quarter of a pound, and some retailers sell it for twenty cents and snL! for twenty.five cents, so that its cost is from eighty cents loTl pound™ now hold in my hand the product of the Empire Tobacco Company of Granby. Quebec, a plug made out of tobacco grown in Bothwell. Kent Ind Essex counties, purchased there and shipped to Granby, Quebec, where it^« manufactured This sells at ten cents a plug, four and a half pl^gs to the pound, being forty-five cents a pound. Here is McDonald's Consols $1 n«! pound. T. & B.. eighty cents to $1 a pound, and the Empire Tobacco Com pany's tobacco, fortyfive cents per pound, or 50 per cent, cheaper than T« foreign article. So much for that line of smoking tobacco I nrLn. », McDonald's • Br^r,' eight plugs to the pouhd. retaVedt everyTorratt: cents a plug, and I have here again the Empire Canadian leaf. nin. nluL ." ihe pouna. worcn nve cents a plug. One eighty cents a pound Ind "fh- other made by the Empire Company, worth fortyfive cent^^^^a p^und and yet the hon. gentleman (Mr. Clancy) stands up in his place in Jws Houae and stated that the poor man is taxed $1,150,000 a year on his tobacco, and the funny part of it is that the hon. gentleman (Mr. Clancy) still nods his head m confirmation of the erroneous asBertions he made to the House I am not through with the hbn. gentleman yet. We will now take chewine tobacco. I hold in my hand the 'Prince of Wales,' manufactured by Mc- Donald, sixteen plugs to the pound, at five cents a plug, or eighty cents a pound. I hold here the Empire Tobacco Company's ' Currency,' one-tenth of a pound, costing five cents, or fiff,y cents per pound. So that, you can buy more than one and one-half pounds for the same price that you pay for a pouiid of the other. I have here the Empire Tobacco Company's chewing tobacco, ten plugs to the pound, or fifty cents per pound. While McDonald's tobacco costs eighty cents a pound, the Canadian tobacco costs fifty cents a pound, and I ask the hon. member for Bothwell (Mr. Clancy) if the cheaper kind of tobacco I have produced here is not the kind of tobacco-chewing and smoking— that is used by the laboring men and masses of Canada ? Mr. CLANCY. The hon. gentleman asks me a very fair question, and I am going to answer it. He has made a correct statement as to th^ present • but he should have stated to the House that he is quoting the price of a tobacco that forms less than one^tenth of all the tobacco used in Canada The hon. gentleman knows that. I stated that there is $1,050,000 on tobacco over 1896, and I appeal to the Finance Minister whether that is not correct. Mr. COWAN. As usual, when the hon. member for Bothwell opens his mouth, he puts his foot in it; and I will show the hon. gentleman how deep down it has sunk. The hon. gentleman has made the statement that Cana- dian tobacco forms less than one-tenth of the tobacco consumed in Canada Well, fortunately we are able to get at the exact amount of Canadian leaf that has been consumed in Canada, and although it is a little out of the line of the argument I intended to pursue, I am going to deal with this at once The Canadian tobacco produced in the year ending the 30th of June 1896 according to the Inland Revenue Returns, was 474,205 pounds ; in the year ending June 30th, 1898, it was 1,989,429 pounds ; and in the year ending June 30th, 1899, it had increased t« 2,575,955 pounds. Taking the last year of the old regulations, ending June 30th, 1896, and comparing that with the year Ending June 30th last, there is an increase of 540 per cent., or there is 5> pounds consumed now to what was consumed prior to the tariff changes I will go further, and figu-e it more closely for the hon. gentleman. In the year 1894-5, the nercentage of Canadian leaf compared with the total product was only 6.8 per cent., whereas in 1898,9 it increased to 26 2 per cent For the six months ending the 31st December, 1899, it had further increased to 36.2 per cent., and for the month of January last it had increased to 46 2 per cent. And yet the hon. member for Bothweil knows so little of the staple product which he himself produces, and which is produced in his own constituency, that he makes the lamentable exhibition and the erroneous statement that less than one-tenth of the tobacco used in Canada is of Canadian growth. Surely, if we can produce tobacco of as good a qu'alitr made from Canadian leaf, and it can be purchased in Canada to-da^ .«t l?s- than two-thirds of the price of tobacco made from foreign leaf prior to the tariff of 1897, it does not operate as an additional tax on the masses, but as 3 tobacco,^ and fltill nods his the House. I take chewing tured by Mc- ighty cents a 3y,' one-tenth that, you can : you pay for my'e chewing le McDonald's fifty cents a if the cheaper ceo— chewing Canada ? lestion, and I th^i present; iie price of a d in Canada. 00 on tobacco not correct, i^ell opens his an how deep t that Cana- i in Canada, 'anadian leaf ut of the line this at once, •f June, 1896, ; in the year ending June ' year of the ith the year r there is 5J riff changes, nan. In the h the total 26.2 per cent, ler increased Jased to 45.2 little of the d in his own lie erroneous anada is of od a quality prior to the uses, but as ^orft^PoThlnVe; o K^^ "^Z^^ '^ «^-« the. 50 par cent, that is I proposition ^thate-nT^^ fertile imagination and lack ofTnforLationwmh'^"'" ^°*^^'" ^'^^ *>'« was stated by the ex-Controller of ^st^msTM. W f ^"'^^''^'^'^t- Now. it ently as little knowledge of th« moff i? Wallace), who had appar- that there had been a falling off in thrco: '' ^°"- "'^'"''^^ '°' ^^thwe,,. •nd that the cause of Z'^ ^I'V^^" tTr/''°° "i '"^^''^^ '^ ^ increased smugglintr into clJIfil \ f ^''^ ""^''^^ P^^^^^ and caused hon. gentlemaf holdi^raXonsiWe ool"^^^ '' ^^^ --• that minister of the Crown, Carried the maff '" **"'' ^°"^"' ^"^^ «° «' had imposed those tobaccr^utiS in o derThlf'" '"'"'^^ ""' ^^'^ ^^^^^ we take place along the borders of Cana^If ^u '"creased smuggling would to our Political%riends as prLenJivo offlc. 't P"'""*^^ °^ «'^'°^ J«bs matter up. and while I do so I w w f v, !! " • ^°^' ^ ^^"^ to take this Bothwell, because there is no man wh'ol l"'"." 1'"^ ^°"- '"-"'^^ ^^r minister of the Crown when he sneal ° ^f^ *^^ attention of every have noted it since I came into h'eHo. se in to^ T '""• "^"'^^- ' Crown attempts to engage in conversation wUh h uu "'"''^^" °^ *»»« member for Bothwelf is fipeakhirThlthon ?''''^^°" ^^"« ^he hon. •When the minister of so-a'Ld to gets through ''rr^^ ''^P' ^"*^ '^^'' the hon. member for Bothwell is eftitled fnft' •". P'"'"""^' ^"''^'y' ^^ give their undivided attTn on to bi^. wh k '"•''''' ^^ '^' ^'"""^ to member, a private member should aft r ." ^' '' «Peaking. the hon. I am discussing an artTcrgro:n In h^^T^^f/Tr^ ^" ""«"*''^" -^^'^ ten years. On June 30th Ifm ihl o^n constituency. I will go back 2.153 pounds per heTd ' oT'AmVmh'S'^ 1 ^^T" ^" ^^^^^ -- gentlemen were defeated, it had^^h'^tL tr212rno1r; "''" k''^^ ^'■•^• .024 pounds per head less under the re«.im« nffh? ^ "^' P^^ ^'^^'J' ' Then, if the statement is correct that ^Zfp! ^T-' ^^"tJ^"'^" oPPOsite, not follow as a natural sequence that fcf« "'""^^'''^^ ^«»t on. would it a still lower point ? But ? turn to th« n '^^^"'"Ption would have fallen to by the statistician. Mr. Johnrn and iK th«r °^,^^"«^^«' ^ %"red out sumption of tobacco had risen to 2 174 n! ^ "1! "^""^ ^^*^' ^^»' ^^e con- the regime of gentleme7on th L «'de of^ w'''' ""'f' ""' '^^ ^°'=''«^«« ""^^er and yet hon. gentlemen opposite t^ to ^L."''' °* •'^*^ P"""'^^ P^^ ^«^. statem ,,,.,,„„_, s^gi^'hrg^roVi^^rna^" *'^^^^°"-- andrhTn.re;r ?ors^^^^^^^ SsfsL^t^drr- --"- errf\obrcr;^rg;orXni^^^^^ into Canada. But when Tn hon inH ' '^^^^ ^°u *^* ^°''«'»° *««' imported of that iescription.re shelterrhiS; hr- '." ^V^''"' ^^'^^^ ^ statement these hon. gentlemen gentral y r wLo?^^^^^ ''i\''^'^ statement, as support it. ^ ' ^^thout one single fact or authority to When the hon. member for Bothwpll iMr, m > . , .ng classes of Canada, had been taxld^f iio (So onS' l""^' *^* **^°'- he would have gone on to show^ we dTnot^ 1''° ''^T' ^ ^*^°"«^* y^ wny we did not produce that tobacco in Canada, or, if ,^e did produce it, why it was not consumed by the Canadian people; but like the rest of these hon. gentlemen, who have taicen every opportunity in their power to throw a stone at Canada's tobacco industry, they have not produced a single line of authority to show that Canadian tobacco is not in every way the equal of the foreign article. I am not foolish enough to stand up in this House, for an instant, and say that we can produce Havana fillings for cigars, but neither can they do it in the United States. I am not going to say that we can produce tobacco of the fancy types for cigars, or the finest Virginia leaf, but three-quarters of the tobacco consumed in the United States, and nine-tenths of the tobacco brought into the Dominion from the United States, can be produced to an equal, if not greater state of perfection in Canada than it can be in the UnitedlStates, and I purpose backing that statement up, not by my own bald assertion, but by the best authorities— not one or two authorities, but half a dozen of the best authorities— that can be got in the tobacco world, not only on the continent of America, but the continent of Europe. Let me give you first a Canadian authority, Mr. D H. Ferguson, of Montreal, a man of wide experience both in foreign and Canadian leaf tobacco, and, I think, I am quite within the mark, when I say there is no manufacturer in Canada, who has a wider and longer experience, or is more versed in every department of the tobacco business, both as regards the growing of tobacco and its cure and manufacture, in this Dominion. Mr. Ferguson says : "Taking into consideration the short period that the cultivation of tobacco in Canada (particularly in Western Canada) has been in vogue, the farmers are to be congratulated on their success in producing a tobacco which in point of quality closfly approaches their prototypes in the United States I refer more particularly to the type known as 'Burley' which is now so largely used in the United States and Canada for a sweet chewing tobacco. '• I have seen and purchased this type of leaf in both the counties of Essex and Kent and can state that they approach very closely in merit the best grade grown in Kentucky and Ohio. The color and texture of the domestic article when grown under proper conditions leaves nothing to be desired from a manufacturer's standpoint." I would like to tell my hon. friend from Bothwell (Mr. Clancy), that I have listened to his voice for two mortal hours, and would ask him to listen to mine, for he is the one gentleman on that side to whom I am talking to-night. " Due allowance should however be made f«r the want of experience in handling and curing as compared to the long experience and the high state of cultivation which the farmers in the United States have with years of experience brought to a state of perfection. That our farmers can and do now produce a very fair grade of leaf suitable for chewing tobacco and which will improve as their experience develops goes without saying. We now manufacture in Canada plug chewing made from domestic raw leaf which is of very fair quality and compares favorably with that made from good American leaf." Mr. Ferguson was speaking only of the crop of 1898, and I have just a word to say with regard to that crop. la 1897, the duties upon tobacco gave such a stimulus to the industry, that every kind and grade of tobacco in Canada was gobbled up at enormous prices. The hon. member for Bothwell knows tht cee the adv and adv and ev^i prol can the grov resu and i back it in went ing c given they i the it produ Ohio. Ni Kentu Scotia In rep O. Md "J freely Burlej of that on whi -Y freely c One of industr •f Glasj tobacco come tc brought buyer ft been bu; the hon. hon. gen there wi telegraa To M. K. "Ini 37 the Canadian ive taken every >bacco industry, 7 that Canadian tide. I am not sind say that we ley do it in the ) tobacco of the -quarters of the of the tobarco produced to an t can be in the not by my own authorities, but 3 tobacco world, jf Europe. Let I, of Montreal, a tobacco, and, I uanufacturer in versed in every iving of tobacco ison says : i cultivation of m in vogue, the icing a tobacco 3 in the United iurley' which is sweet chewing 3unties of Essex merit the best of the domestic g to be desired 2y), that I have lim to listen to ri I am talking if experience in the high state I with years of ers can and do ag tobacco and ut saying. We uestic raw leaf :hat made from ive just a word »acco gave eucU >acco in Canada tothwell knows p"^o::rc:^z^^^^^^^^ -d u .... Id i* the county of Essex to-day TLeni^°' .*?^^ ^°"'^ °"t be cut in advantage Of the situation to hofd meetinTth7"'r.K'" ^«--'°»ton took and Kent in the winter of 1897 ILT . ^hrcugh the counties of Essex advantage which they could g;inb?a"L°"*-'° '""^ '^"""^'^ ^^« «"ormo" and going largely into tobacco railing HrH.'T"''^''^ ^^^^^^^'^^ «'«« ev-^ry pound they grew at 'in n?? ^' ^® ^^''^ ^^^'^ that he wou'd buv proliflcdistrict,wL^;eTh;ygowa tn^f Th"' '^"^ '«"^^' and ^rf thai can figure up what an enormorproflthL:^^^^^^^^ '" '^' '^''' ^^^ P«"on the farmers and others in thatloca H v thT '^'""" ^^^^ so stimulated growmg of the plant, who had notthlJ' "*"^ P«°P'« ^«nt into the result was. that som^ was hu^g up'onThf? ""'""^ '"'' '^"""^ ''' -°^ he back to the manure heap. These n«nnll / , ^ f ^^'^ '^^°^- °^ 'he crop went •t m 1898, yet the best of^t was cuZ o . °°'/''"' *"« '*^"i^'«« for^cunng went on the market in 1899; and so bftte;r?.*'.'' ^"^ ^^^ *°»'-'=<=° tia! >ng classes of that community were au.hTi '•''°" ^^'^'^ ^^« P'-^duc- given them by this gentleman fnrhelntZt oftrr."' '*^« ^^^ ^^-'^^^ they have profited by that bitter lesson 1'^^ / ^^^^''^^ combine, that the industry, were men capable of adng^orth. ^r'.'^"^' ^^° ^^'^'^ '«to produced in the county of Essex ,s „f « P'*°*' ^'^'^ ^^^ crop to day Ohio Illinois, Wisconsin^; Penn^'h;; ^York sTat"" '^'°"'^' ^-^^-^-^ ^^ Now. I come to my next Lth -i ^°// ^^'^a*" o^ Kentucky. Kentucky, the purchaser ?or he fl'm Jf aI: ''^.""t ^^""P'^' °^ ^-^"c. Scotland, one of the largest importer^ of tllh ^°^''' ^''^^^^' ot Glasgow Inreply toalettersenttohim Mr tL t*"° *" ^^^ United Kingdom O. McNutt. Secretary Tobacio bfowJ^T*' ^'""P^" ^^°*« «« f°»ows, L W industry, the purchaser fo; the Jge^iXurh' '""Vr '" *^^ *°bacco •f Glasgow. Scotland, unbound aSunlarmnT'°'^'"^*"^«^^ tobacco markets of Canada, gives the stat^^lV^''*" "° '^^^^^^^^^ in the come to W. T. Gregory who {? statement I have just read. Then t brought up in the le!ftobaeco%;adran7h 1 " ^"^'^^^ district.. who was buyer for the largest factories «!; United l71 '°' ^^^ ^"^^^^ ^"''•^cc^ been buying in Essex. When the atLol ^^^' ^°'' *^° years he has the hon. member for Richmond. J SMrGi.r'1' °° ''*°"'^'*" ^^^^'-^^o b^ bon. gentleman. I telegraphed to Mr Gr^'orv t«^^ '^5:''"''^ *° ^°"°^ ^^^^ there was no time to communicate by S ^^^ ^'^ *° ^'^^ reply, as telegram m answer : ^ ™*"- ' bave here Mr. Gregory's To M K. Cowan. March 10. 1900. rf / I'^tZZlZ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^ three ,uest,ons. F.st. had purchJed in tL united Statrldtbi^d'^H^' '^ "^"'^ '"' ^»^°'" »>« will give you his reply : ' '''* *^'''^' ^^«"' **°*°«ia' standing. I that']re"'bVe'n^rn"Lrin''ess^tXe1,"fe^^^^ '" ^"J'--' -'" state bought 15,000.000 pounds of tobacco bS A^^'*"""^ ,*^'*t tiu.e hare exporter and speculator ; bought four v^vff^r au ^T*lJ°'' J- ^ tJooper, tobacco -duotHefoTthr^nSX". ZdThaT Al'rrL'r'"', """ °' "" the largest, it not the l.rg,«, Arm. in the Unit^ «fl ,'^""t«r "e one „( fancy type, and cigarettM : . '"" '° ''''» P^Juction of its f;7.rfrSLrhe°Se'id't*°i'SS?a'roS "'C"^'° "'■•'— " «" fhl'^Se^STp^e'SSe'dy" '"''^■'' °» '-'"-^ '» -^ "aS^^^^^^^^^ In regard to the amount of Burlev usfid— r wnni,i ooi, „ i. J^rticularly. and I .i«h to aive^gVrgain^r ^ That^e;,^^^^^^^^^^ the tobacco consumed in Canada outside of fancy Vir..inmL °' and Havana cigars, is made from the BurJey type : ^ ' ^'^^'^''^ttes »anX°ct':fe^o/hla^crchewin';"t«U°coTn"^^^^^^^^ - ?-'«y »-d fn type is used almost exclusivell In regard toT^^ the Burley not used to the extent as for chewing, but the wHte °h^«T'" '^^'^^ ^^^^ *t ia yes. phenomenal, increase in the salP nf R.,pW i • ^^?'^®^ ^ remarkabJe, 'months. The Stkte of Klntuckr(which nScL Rf,V°l^ '° *^« ».'*«^ twelve far the largest tobacco-produciSsUtein'^m^.if. ^"^'^'^ exc ueively) is by of all toba/cos are madeVom thfffi^^^yt? V Sinraa^^ 'T^^ V^^j°"tf being used almost exclusively for oiearettP kndnl^Kf^^ V^'^"''"* tobacco. capable of producing a type ^ tobS th^f ,n fli'^^* smoking. Canada is character will compire mos? favorably with the Kem.^oW^^""^^ *?^ ?«"^''«1 there is tobacco in the warehouse in K^mineton now th^/f P'"^'^"''*. • '"^ ^^^t' respect to the foreign leaf. Our grower are ^,,«f^i?**^ '^ *''^"*' '» «^ery Jtage where they can grow it to Pe"rfSn.^TviCpard"iSf e%SeS That is the opinion of one of the best tobacco experts on the rontin^nf « . I would like the hou, member for Bothwell to listen to ;°^„''°"t^°«'^t. But Alex. Harthill. of Louisville. Kentucky.TnLf tt L 'et if no^^^^^^^^ ""• leaf tobacco buyers in the world, and a world-famous a' t^^^^^ T n'^^'** pertains to leaf tobacco, who paid a specraufsiuTcratl^ryeT^ purpose of mvestigating our leaf. After a thorough inspectiun of n^r IT ^ «»turned home, and in an interview with the repi^entatC "^^ l-ees. stated that he had seen tobacco Rrown by X flrmetnha^ /*•- *iual in quality to that grc ;vn in Kentucky ' *^** ''*' ^"'^ „. Z°^ ' ^"'^;° ""T,^*°^ ^^^ »'«'-'''• Tobacco Journal. nubli«h«a Jn .K„ .|*_ .f Cmc^nati. uhio. This is a copy of tiie issue of May 22. im; con^tl^n'in^ i-i- |ame type and equal ai8 country." B questions. First, firms for whom h* ancial standinf;. I I tobacco, will state g that time hare s for J. D. Cooper, Gmter, one of the irs buyer for tke ' the United States 7 the trust of the ; Ginter sre one of the production of icco bnsineRs in all rms named are of ding of Arms that o notice this, point rly nine-tenths of grades, cigarettes i' Burley used in ■ that the Burley II stale that it is en a remarkable, the past twelve xclueively) is by ry large majority arolina tobacco* sing. Canada is ture and general Toduct. In fact, IS equal in every ng to reach that he experimental continent. But opinion of Mr. not the largest, rity on all that ist year for the •n of our crop be es of the trade that was fully ■bed 899, containing^ vlt T about nine colum # ""* 'o not the statement nf o r ,, not th. statement of .i.ySan^Z''°'°'<"'™'=J'n Canadian tobacco th- • an. .an „,„ „„„„ ^1,^1".^^ ^Z'^ZT' *;' -" "■-«™ ■ '^J and having the sante relationship 10 i to tobacco affairs that the Iron Age aoes to iron, the Canadian Lumberman to luaaber, or The Monetary Times to matters of finance. Looking oyer its columns for the past three years I find that when the tariff commissions were touring the country, and when the subject of encouraging the Canadian tobacco industry by a revision of the tariff and excise regxilations was first mooted, this tobacco journal was most vehement in its denunciation of such a measure. It stated Canada could never grow tobacco suitable for general consumption, and to attempt such an experiment was uiterly ridiculous, so firm was it in its conviction on this point that it culminated in its issue of May, 1897, immediately after the budget came down, with the statement that tho new tobacco tariff was 'a monument of absurdity.' We will turn to subsequent issues and see how the wonderful improve- ment in the quality of leaf now grown and its success with the public has brought about an evolution in the opinions of this undoubted authority. In January, 1899, in a leading editorial, they say : "Few of our readers have more than a vague understanding ot th« rapid advancement of Canadian tobacco as an artic'e of consumption. Within the past year Canadian plug and cut is now selling on its intrinsic merits and increasing in demand to such an extent that it is quite within the probabilities that the close of the current year will see it constitute f uliy one-fourth of the total consumption of Canada." Now, let me for a moment diverge to show why this paper should be taken as an }?,uthority. Recognizing the changes that have taken place, recognizing the capabilities of Canada in the production of tobacco, realizing that former utterances had been wrong, and yet wanting to be well within the mark, when it stated it would constitute 25 per cent., in point of fact it constituted 26 per cent, and a fraction. It says further : "Canadian tobacco, once under the ban of public prejudice, is now selling on its own merits, and what is more important, is giving excellent satisfac- tion to the consumers The result has brought about the development of a hithertofore languishing industry, and to such an extent that it now bids fair to eventually change the whole complexion of our trade." In January, 1900, after another year of experience with both the grower and, the consumer, it comes out with an editorial article, saying : "The stability of tho industry, so far as the pipe and chewing tobacco branches are concerned, has now been established beyond all doubt, and with the constantly improving methods of culture and manufacture, there is no doubt that this tobacco is destined to eventually absorb at least 75 per cent, of the total consumption of what is the largest tobacco-consuming and revenue producing branches of the trade." Turn now to almost its last issue, March, 1900, less than two months ago, and we find an editorial under the heading of ' The Tobacco Tariff :' "A rather uncalled for attack on the tobacco tariff was made in the Housfl a fow days ago by Mr. Gillies, member for Richmond, N. 8., but as his arguments as to the results of the present tariff and his abuse of Cana- dian To bacon were plainly founded on a misunderstandiag of the results -.i-i-T ^-j fj Til 1- -I I — 1- _4Jp~„A. . i.1^ ^ ^H.,,f^i-ie^*\ 'VTrt*.-w.5l-K«i-rt r.f3»». — aHJilliCU, )L V.'llt Utiraiy IJUVC any cllcvt UU 1110 ntiUteviOll. iTt^tWmicvtvnUluf; the abuse which this journal, and with it nine-tenths of the trade, heaped on the tobacco tariff when revised by the present adminictration, in 1897, and the statements then made that it was absurd to presume that Canadian tobacco could ever become a factor in the trade, the situaoion to-day is such ■umberman to ing oyer its cjmmisBions he Canadian 9ns was first unciation of suitable for was uvterly ulminated in ^n, with the rdity.' ful improve- e public has d authority. ot th« rapid in. Within ic merits and probabilities fourth of the er should be talcen place, :co, realizing ! well within int of fact it s now selling lent satisfac- lopment of a it now bids 3 grower and ving tobacco iibt, and with I, there is no t 75 per cent, isumiug and months .ago, riff:' made in the N. 8., but as use of Cana- f the results ;rade, heaped tion, in 1807, lat Canadian D-day is such 11 S=^-7® are compelled in simplb justice and by force of facts, to admit the wisdom of the administration in the measure then adopted. Not only have our farmers Rrown tobacco quite the equal of that used for plug smoking SamCK^f^If?!^^ ^K^ ^°'n^^ ^^H. fa«>"e8; not only was^^upwards o1 W»M,im left in the h&nds of Canadian farmers last year that once went to •»r? Kn^*" leaf markets, but the great masses of the people have been given mdpr ?hl ?,1S^™-^* tobacco of equal quality for the same money than Jt,^l rf ®* ^^^ ^^^1^- beyond this, a practically new industry has sprung n^r.H wJ ^"^^^t^-five new factories are now turning out Canadian tobaccS products, and this influx of capital is ample evidence of the importance and direct^urdenl-^^*^'"'®" ^*''' " '^ ^''''^' ^'^ '^°'' * ^'"^^ operate as a And therefore the hon. member for Bothwell went to sleep when it did operate as a direct burden. -on the trade and public, but the evolution of a domestic tobacco has ctianged this, and it is now a tax on the classea that is handed over to the masses. The million dollars gained from th- ^ax on foreign leaf now little more than offsets the loss of revenue invc i in the low tax of only five cents per pound on Canadian tobacco." There is the evidence of a high authority of the position in which the Canadian tobacco producer and the Canadian tobacco grower stands to-day. The industry is not in the position that its merits must be sounded by its friends. To-day it comes into the camp of the enemy ; and after fighting for three long years in the face of opposition, nine-tenths of the trade Komes out to-day and says : 'We were wrong and the government of Canada were right.' They are paying the farmers of Canada to-day $600,000 that formerly went into the breeches' pockets of the tobacco producing classes of the United States of America, And yet these hon. gentlemen who have stood up in this House time and again, and made the rafters ring in pointing out the glorious future of Canada, in supporting the hothouse and spoon fed industries that never could and never will support themselves, are standing up in Canada to-day trying to blacken the character of a great Canadian industry. The hon. member for Bothwell endeavors to ruin a staple of his own county in order |o secure a point against his political opponents. Now, I am "not standing here as a protectionist. I have never stood as a protectionist, but I want to tell hon. gentlemen opposite after we have had eighteen long years of protection from them, that, at any time, any man who is an admirer of the principle of protection will point out that the results can be attained for any industry in Canada that have been attained for the tobacco industry of this country, I want it to go on record that so far as that industry is concerned, I am one of the strongest protectionists that could advocate its cause What are the results ? I find that the factories using Canadian tobacco exclusive of cigars for the year ending June 30, 1896, numbered ten and that the factories using foreign tobacco numbered 27. I find that to-day there are twenty-five Canadians and seventeen foreign. The factories using Canadian tobacco in three years increased 250 per cert., while the factories manufacturing foreign tobacco decreased from twenty-seven to seventeen. The cigar factories using Canadian tobacco in 1896 were two in number, to day they are twelve in number, or an increase of 600 per cent., or, in other- words, twenty-five new factories hava been started and stimulated by this 12 government. We who come from the west know well that the clarion- toned and trnmpet-tongued member for Botbwell goes up and down th« counties of Essex. Kent, Botbwell and Elgin saving : Look at the taU chim- neys that the national policy, the protective policy, has stimulated and brought mto life. And yet. the hon. member for Botbwell cannot rise in his place and show where the protective policy, in eighteen long years, ever stimulated twenty-five factories in other lines of trades or industry in th. four western counties. We can point to twenty-flve new factories existinr m Canada m ti-e short space of three years in tobacco alone, and to the fact that the greater portion of the benefits resulting from these industries goes to the masses, to the farmers who produce the tobacco, to the laboring men who earn their money by the sweat of their brow in the Canadian tobacco faelds and the tobacco factories of Canada, and that the money goes into the poclce^ts of the consumers of the common grades of tobacco. In the face of this the hon, gentleman rises in his place and says that $l,050,0fX) was taken out ot the poon-r people of Canada in taxes. Then, when asked to stat« why and bow. he said "because one-tenth of the tobacco consumed in Canada IS made from Canadian leaf," while in point of fact, over 45 per cent, was manufactured from it in January last. The hon. gentleman actually did not knovv the ditference, although he spoke with all the assurance of a man who could leak wisdom on the subject. Earlier in this debate, and earlier in the night I gave the hon. member for Botbwell the figures xit the consumption of Canadian tobacco in Canada from 18i36 down. I also gave him the per- centage that Canai' an tobacco bore to the total consumption, and therefore I netd not now weary the House by going into that any farther But I want to tell the hon. gentleman that the Empire Tobacco Company dis- tributed $800,000 last year in wages to their workmen, that they spent $lo0.000 in increasing their plant, to say nothing about the twenty-fom- other factories. Does any hon- gentleman think that these gentlemen, tobacco experts, would invest such large sums of money in the industries for the manufacture of Canadian tobacco were they not thoroughly satisfied that it was a product that would strike the palate of the Canadim consumer, and that It was equal in texture, aroma, fiavor and general character to the foreign article Now, the crop of 1898 was put on the market in 1899 'l have already referred to the fact that the growers lacked the facilities for curing it, but they went to work in 1898 and got the facilities, and the result is that the tobacco crop grown last year is only being purchased now, and will not go to the consumer until next year. When it does go to the consumer it will be found that the crop is 50 per cent, finer than that grown in 1898. .Is has been stated by Mr. Gregory, these men have come to a point in Canada that It took the United States years and years to re.,ch. Some hon. gentlemen may ask in view of the fact that under the excise regulations which impose* twenty five cents per pound excise on foreign leaf and five cents per pound excise on Canadian leaf, giving a protection of twenty cents a pound upoa the home grown article, or an advantage of twenty cents per pound, under the resrime of the hon. (rpntlpr»en nnnncito v.^..» :* --_- ^1.-1. r^ >. tabacco only amounted to a little over 5 per cent, of the total consumption Hon. gentlemen opposite sat on the treasury benches for eighteen lonj? : the clarioH- md down th« the tall chim- imulated and cannot rise in 3g years, ever iduetry in the iories existing id to the fack idustries goes laboring men idian tobacco goes into the In the face of XK) was taken sked to statft led in Canada per cent, was tually did not 3f a man who earlier in the consumption him the per- md therefore 'ther. But I ompany dis- : they spent ty-foiir other nen, tobacco tries for the ;isfied that it nsumer, and acter to the 1899. I have Bs for curing result is that and will not sumer it will 898, .Ss has Canada thai I. gentlemen lich imposed }8 per pound pound upoB ound, under it Canadiaa insumptioB. B^hteen long 13 years they saw the tobacco industry, which, at one time, was an industrr in ths country, but which, by the absolute stupidity of hon gentlemen Srunt^ritt'tV"" ^'^'. *^. ^^^^' '^^^""^'^ by^different TopsZd grades until it got down simply to an infinitisimal part of the tobacco ZwT tI; T^^- ^* ^"' "™" *^«^ "'^^^ « •"- take out a license to grow It. Then there was practically only one man who could buy 7r and l!r.TnLT"^ "P"." '' '^"* '""^ '"^^^ ^^« °°t G'-'t- VVh-e therl wer^ acres of tobacco in Essex and Kent years ago. it got down to practica!?^ none, until the business management of th. Minister of -Finance (Mr Fielding) and his colleagues took hold of it, and placed it upon Us feet 1 will tell you what the explanation is. Prior t^ 1897 you could noT • Canadian and foreign tobacco in Canada. I could go to Turkey and «et Th« Turkish or Egyptian tobacco; I could go to Cuba and iret th/r . tobacco, I could go to Virginia and buy^he lemon wrapper produtrdi^ that state ; I could go to Kentucky and buy the Burley tobacco »^Tt ^ bring them to Canada and mix them and bfend them to u U n;;:,^ /nH^ any wrapper on them I saw fit ; but if I were a producer or a Suflcturer Inm p"; *'^''°' '''' ««^«^°"'«"t of which the hon. mem^eTforBo ! welKMr. Clancy was a bright and shining light-in supporting them in" the back concessions in the western counties - that governmen" said v can put a lemon Virgini.^ wrapper around Kentucky Burley but vo.o« 7 "^ .over up Canadian Burley with it. Let me tell the hon gentLln Mr Clancy) that every one of those plugs of smoking tobacco I haveTroduced has a wrapper grown in the State of Virginia, and which cannot .f in any other State of the American Union. That le^on colored wr„ ^'"''^ .ot grown elsewhere. The resu.t of the policy of thrCons rvaUrr'' '' ment was. that the Canadian manufacturer producinrSZHr^^T" tobacco had to put a Burley wrapper around'L Whl t :L te re^^S We have not yet succeeded in growing a decent wrapper in C^nlda ^^1 can grow as good a wrapper as they grow in New York Ohm P. . ^^^ .r Kentucky. But. in the United Itftes they I lo have to pTln Oh" wrapper around Ohio tobacco. The result of the policy of the Con. . government was that we had to put our tobacco'on the markottrt':'": was. and its appearance damned it in the sight of every m^ Thi " ment had business ability enough to grannie withihJ.T I- '^°'''""°- the hon. member for Bothwelf(Mr S2cy) goes baeVt^ ht^c' ^"1 ^^^° ^ks in the different school-houses what this'^Llbera^governitn Z^^ "°^ let him put his hands in his pants Docket nvmi^.o. 5° T k "*^ ^°"^' plug of Canadian Burley he finds there w/t^a Virgin 1 ""''' ^""^ '^''^ will demonstrate to hiL something done bVtlLTover^^^^^^^^^^ '' th ng which has meant thousands and thousands of loUars^ the n '?'"'; this country. In 1897. when these tobacco duties were mposed this lS^ ^ could have it all foreign that: It Zy"::^' ^ ^:^Z:^:^,^^l!^^J *nu tnis government showed its wisdom by Koinir a at^n fn^fh»"" " .i ""^ "" mg...Ba,sga„d, until .„ch «n,. .. tbe'JS ,S "*'«», rfit »h.t the «,a„„,acturer ahould not put . l.mon wrapper .rou^d™, t'btco ^i u that did not contain at least 25 per cent, of foreign leaf. The government provided that we could take the Canadian tobacco and experiment with it up to 75 per cent., but the manufacturer could not put a lemon wr&pper around any tobacco that did not contain at least 25 per cent, of foreign leaf. That insured that the industry would not be killed in its infancy by unscrupulous manufacturers who might cover up a shoddy article with a bright-colored wrapper. That regulation continued in force in 1897, and part of 1898. In 1898, the Tobacco Growers* Association of the western counties met at the village of Kingsville and passed a resolution asking the govern- ment to reduce the amount of foreign tobacco necessary to be used in mixing down to 10 per cent., which practically covers the wrapper only. That resolution was presented to the government and was agreed to. By reason of that one regulation concerning mixed tobacco factories, enabled us to put a tobacco upon the market presentable in appearance, and the inside spoke for itself. I need only point this House once more to the expert opinions on our tobacco, and to the largely increased amount of Canadian tobacco consumed in Canada to prove the success of the Liberal policy in that regard. When the hon. member for Bothwell (Mr. Clancy) and when the hon. member for Halton (Mr. Henderson)— I had nearly forgotten him-stated in this House that this government has increased taxation on the laboring men by reason of the tobacco duties, they are making statements which they have not tried to verify, or else they are making unfounded statements for the purpose of getting party capital and caring not what damage these statements might do to the Canadian growers and the Canadian manufacturers of tobacco. I am advised by the wholesale men that the hon. gentleman (Mr. Henderson) could have gone to Georgetown or Oakville, or Acton, in his own constituency, and at least in four places in any one of these towns and villages, he could have bought the Canadian tobacco for forty cents a pound where he would pay eighty cents for the foreign tobacco now, and sixty cents prior to these duties of 1897. I have one more point, Mr. Speaker, before closing. The hon. member for Richmond, N S., asked the other day of the Minister of Finance (Mr Fielding), the hon. member for Antigonish (Mr. Mclsaac), the hon. member for Guysborough (Mr.Fraser), and other members represensing the maritime provinces : How could they explain to their constituents the imposition of an extra duty on the tobacco of the fishermen of the lower provinces. Well these gentlemen can take up these figures which I have just given from the blue-books of parliament, and from the Inland Revenue Returns, or they can hold up the product of the Empire Tobacco Company to prove the wisdom of the policy adopted by this government. I said then as I say now that I am prepared to go to the country on this issue. I did intend speaking of cigars, but I shall not detain the House at this late hour further than to say that cigars retailing at five cents in Canada and manufactured from foreign leaf are made very largely from tobacco grown in Wisconsin State. I would like to see the Canadian representative in this House who would dare to stiind on his fnet and sftv that Mna atMi-.a nt WTia^r^^^s^ _,. ,___ a ., . -.^ .... ., ._....„„,j^ ^^gjj pi-uuuce anything that South western Ontario cannot produce. In speaking of this question in 1898, the hon. member for West York (Mr. Wallace), the hon. member for no point at which the coa.a.unication is so easy a^d'o leap as a? u"V' where I hve. there is no place along the internat.onaT bounLry Hne wV^^ with three immense railways crossing and with the ferry system ti^f r^' for smuggling are so great as at Windsor Yet thlf fL • facilities but that the people of the county of Essex prefer to use ^ li' """ r."^^""«' I prefer to use it. as against that'^macuLtS ej ro^tL fofX'" "^7'''' '' proved by this, that the Leamingttin Tobacco Company started with '' n factory employing twelve or fifteen hand^ in loaj^ °^fT , ** ^'th asmall months the output of that factory was "bled Td i n Jl 2 '"'• ''^° ^'^'"^^ was increased sevenfold, and hid increased "the numteVofir' '""T' '' about fourfold, and enlarged its premises thr^P^nU r employees Mr. Fenton. the manager of the w^kTl Isled fa-m vvhv" rT^"""" "^^^ p,oductdownintothemaritimeprovincera„dheL-J^ ing the increase of our outout the nnmho^ ^r u , '"^- ^^"t withstand- factory space, we have never 'y^e^ bet "a " ^ "uTsfdVoTthTf T '""^ which we first sold our product Althm,.,i; f^ ! the territory in sevenfold, it was consumed i^the ct nU^oftserSt'^t ""^^^^'^ portion of Middlesex. He told me that he had never be'ef able t "^'f *. ^°^ * ^st than .he ci.y of London, because he couFd noTget o^ut stffieiem . "b'"^" to fill the orders west of the city of London If th^.^^. sumciem tobacco obtain any evidence of smugglfng they shouW nl^ r-' ^'"''^'""" «°»ld but there is no tobacco smf JS fnTo te^ttty the" t'thr""^^ reason that the article grown at home is equal to the foreLn artict 'T'" there are several members of this House who 8mnt« 7h^^ • ^°^' which is purely a Canadian tobacco f knn^ f T ^""P""^ tobacco, he had a'cadi of tobacTo taTfrom ^eig tTbTt'thar '''' T ^^^^ got the product of the Leamington factory he had L^d five .-^T'" ^/ ^^ and had not yet finished the one made of foreign leaf -. I ^^ ^^ ^^^^ evidence in itself of the high quality of the CanTan arUde" " '"'""^'^' .norLX^al^^uttlr^^^ Any man who cane-stalk, knows that I.am quite" S^tL'rrrwZ^'^y;h'i^tH' further north you can r pen a fruit or hrino- « „io„#. . ^"^° * ^*y that the Will be it.jquality and tenure and^^e^'rl^r^fp: f ^tirto'tk^'f^'n''^ north.you can grow tobacco and succeed in ripening it nerVpH ^''f.^^^^^^r will be the grade of that particular tobacco Hon In I P^'^^'^"^' **^« ^^^'^ just as well stand up and say that because we ca^o TroH'^'^K'^^'^^'^ and oranges, therefore we cannot grow fruit yet an IS ^«^\''^°a°«« through »he counties of Lincoln Zex ank W^kn "^ ""^u ^^' ''««" produce in those counties a fine/ percrth\"n\fnt grrn t^^^^^^^^ California. Georgia. Louisiana. Florida or -n^ ^thp- - - '"Southern States. The hon. gentleman might just" as" well say thai h J ""1*"** cannot grow figs and lemons in N?ya Scotia. thTcanuot nroH ^"^ , ^^^^ a high grade in the Annapolis Valley. So. tTau^: we' l^n::: ^Z'\^l Havana filler or the Sumatra wrapper, the* hon. gentlemen might just as well say that we cannot grow tobacco at all. The hon. member for Rich- mond. N. S., (Mr. Gillies) said that the flavors of the black tobaccos of fhe state of Kentucky were the finest in the world. If the hon. gentleman had taken the trouble, as I did, to look up the meteorological reports of the state of Kentucky and of Western Ontario, he would have found that we have as many sunny days during the tobacco growing season as they have in the state of Kentucky. Some years ago the Ontario government, copying an article written of the south-western district, published it for circulation in the old land, and there are one or two extracts in it which I propose reading : * Pelee Island, only sixteen miles from the main shore, is in latitude 41 degrees, 36 mmutes. A line east and west through Pelee Island passes through Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana and California; through northern Portugal and Southern Turkey in Europe. One-third of Spain, three-fourths of Italy, and almost the entire Adriatic Sea lie north of Pelee Fishine Point IS fifty miles nearer the equator than the southern-most veree of France. " Due east of the vineyards of Pelee are the vineyards of Old Clastle. of the Apuhan Valley, in southern Italy, and the orange grove of Barcelona. The Island of Pelee, as has been intimated, is famous for its vinevards and for the wines which these prod^ice. The best variety of grapes can be grown abundantly and of magnificent size. The failure of the grape crop is almost unknown on the island, whereas in Eastern France, famous in Europe for its grapes and wines, there is a failure about once in three vears while in only one year in three does the crop reach perfection. Vinevarcfc of from twenty to thirty acres everywhere dot the island, yielding from four to five tons of fruit to the acre. Fig and almond trees, with a little winter protection, bear abundantlv Cotton-seed has been ripened. Maise, sugar cane, pea-nuts, sweet potatoes the pawpaw, white mulberry, peach, apricots, nectarine and quince will flourish and bear abundantly. And what is true of the climate and products of Pelee Island is, in the mam, true of the county of Essex, its nearest neighbor on the mainland. In conclusion, let me say, that if the hon. member for Bothwell-a constitu- ency which lies not 30 miles further to the north— would stand up in this House and say a word or two in favor of the climate and soil, and the inhabitants that he represents, instead of rising here and endeavoring to propogate, through the medium of the public press, the fallacy that the tariff changes of 1897, have resulted in an increase in the price of tobacco— if he had stated what is the fact, that it had resulted in a decrease in the price, instead of an increase, and that you could purchase one and a half times as much tobacco now, for the same amount of money, that it cost prior to 1897-if, in other words, he had told the plain truth, it would have been better for himself, better for his constituency, better for an industry which stands, by virtue of the tariff changes, without a parallel in the history of Canada as regards its growth— if he had stated that Ae output had iacreased by 700 per cent., that the manufacture of cigars had increased 600 per cent, and that of leaf tobacco 250 per cent., while at the samA fim- the article has been cheapened to the people of Canada between 30 and GO per cent., he would have performed hia duty more faithfully and creditably to his country, his constituency and himself. aight just as )er for Rich- baccos of f he ntlernan had ports of the und that we 18 they have government, Hshed it for a it which I I latitude 41 iland passes jh northern hree-fourths ee. Fishing )8t verge of ^astle, of the elona. i vineyards, apes can be rape crop is famous in :hree years. Vineyards ig from four ibundantly. 3t potatoes, qumce will d is, in the ainland. -a constitu- up in this >il, and the Javorinjf to 5y that the tobacco — if Base in the and a half hat it cost vould have n industry ^llel in the nie output d increased 3a.me tinie 30 and 50 creditably