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Question.-— Is it man or woman that sews the fio* loaves tog-ether— whether is it the male or female! for is not the female a fiff leaf? • This communication whs omitted to be placed in the yearly Book for 1858, which is the reason it is put in here. '61S'i% Answer.— I do not know but that they are both alike. Question. — It is said they sewed % leaves to- gether. Answer. — They is pluraL Question. — If the male or female tell it not to their children, which is the worst? Answer.— The female in that point. Question. — But if a female tell the male or female how to conduct themselves, does she then sew % leaves toofether? Answer. — No. Thou hast answered truly, Israel will not sew fig leaves too-ether. Question.— Paul snid, "For that which I do I allow not: for whnt I would, tliat do I not; hut what I hate, that do I. " Rom. vii. 15. He did no*; allow the evil in the flesh, but confessed that he did not, and his spirit broiight him to confess it. Was that repentance? i Answer. — Yes, repentance. Question. — When the tree was set before Adam did he wait? Did not Jehovah tell him not to eat, thono-h he was liable, and does he not now say it to the yonno; man, and to the old and oray headed man ? But do not the world say that the tree will not liold in such a stale? Do not the doctors tell them so, and do thev not sow the evil seed.? Answer. — Yes. Question. — Man must be subject to the law of his country, hut there is another lavV — what shall I liken it to ? It is like a rat enterino: into a trap, and can- not g-et out ao-ain. Paul confessed, and thronoh that condemns the flesh; his spirit confessed it, and thia is all that God requires. I will make another comparison: If a man does not allow a thino*, and he forsakes it, whether is that for soul or body, for if he turuo to the Lord it saya he shall live? Answer.— For the body. feiS^, Thou hast answered wi8eI3^ Question —If a man g-o from the visitation, and condemns that spirit, and says it is from the evil, and that It IS of tlie devil. Can that man live ? Answer. — No. Thou hast answered wisely, because he had ac- knowledo^ed it, and done contrary, and is under both the sentences; for if he had said my spirit condemns the flesh, would he not have confessed? No^vI will put it the contrary way. If a man hns railed upon his brother, has he not ntrainst his Creator? Does he not despise that flesh which has overcome his own spirit? If any of the house of Israel know one that is of the corrupt tree, will it not be by their flesh tellincr them— will not that bo against them ? Answer. — Yes. The leprosy and blotches in the flesh. Then the fepirit saith, AVhat hast thou done? Then it is death to the body, which hfts to have an incorruptible body J if the soul has repentetf it is raised a spiritual body, winch cannot be handled. Behold! till that tinie It sleeps, and is as a natural man who sleeps and drennis, thouo-l, it sees 8ul)8tance, but not with the mortal eye. But when the mortal eve meets vith the immortal eye, it fashions them like into his fflonous body. 1 have another question to put unto thee. ^ . Qi'Pftion.— Tfaman fall from the visitation, and joins (lie Protestant cliurch, and upon sacrament day ^oestotake the sacrament, wo will suppose it was thyself, and thou knows the priest at Stanley, w-uld thou not shame to go and take the sacrament from Lim? Answer.— I believe I should shame. Thou hast answered wisely. Let them that stand steadfast not boast, lest they turn away and become as the unjust steward, for 1 my m the name of the Lord, as Paul said, I have 6 done that which I do not allow, my flesh condemns me, and my spirit tells what I have had for my stewardship, and what every man has had. Written from John Wroe's mouth by Benjamin Eddowes. '' '^ Melbourne Hotise, Wreuthorpe, near Wakejield, 7th of 1st month, 1859. Sabbath hour. Now we must observe one thing-, man remained not in that one immortal Spirit, and that graft which he has in himself, he has it in his blood. Then was' that of Satan's planting or God's when death over- came him, for this is the question? When God plants, death has no power over them, and this will be that greater work which will be done than was worked in our Lord. ^Tesus had to die for them that were dead, that God might bring them to life with him in the resurrection, yet they were planted by the evil. Jesus planted in that one immortal Spirit when he was baptized at the river Jordan. And when tlie house of Israel are planted, their plantino- will be a greater work, and it will be done in the twinkling of an eye— their blood becoming flesh, the spirit being the life of them. Now I must speak of the law. Whose planting are those who are planted before the seven days are up, or before the issue has ceased running? But that sown after the seven days is called of^the holy seed ; and if the holy seed bo sown, then God has planted that. But man cannot sow that, yet it savs let both grow together until the harvest, tlien he will send fortii the woman, mortal and immortal, to break oft' the boughs ; and they shall kindle a fire, and burn tliem root and branch. Tlien will God plant his own graft into them, and man will have the graft i I of the living God in himself, for God will be the root and branch of .hem But many shall lose their salt before that day. Man and woman have salt one lovyards another before they are joined by the laws ot tlie country; but do not many lose that salt after- wards, which causes them to be divided, though the laws of the country bind them to maintain one another; then is not their love then as water spilt upon the gTound ? Do not some men o-ive their salt to others, going- whoring* after an whorish woman, and women after an whoring man ? Then can thev Iiave that savour which was before ? Does it not bring strife and vexation of spirit-hating and dis- puting ? But that man and wife who lose not their salt, toliow on until they are salted of God, of that one immortal Spirit. How have they kept it? Bv prayer; but it is no prayer ibr the body which is seen one of another, whether it be of the wife or bus- band; then if it is not seen one of another it is known of Christ; for when they enter the closet, which IS the heart, it is in secret between God and themselves, for we are one's apiece. Though a messenger is sent to and fro to warn the people that the two-leaved gates are open, what is it It God has given him no salt ? Male and female are each one for themselves. By and by Jews and Gen- tiles, and a 1 nations, will be grafted into Jesus, and then into Chnst, which is called the vine, then they will bear of the vine, and not of the olive. But are ye aware the olive trees die? But those that the vmo abides in overcome death, sin, hell, and the grave. ' Som« say Christ dies. Does the vine die? inan I learn and understand I If the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus-that is the soul of Jesus-ho that raised up Christ, the body being called Christ, shewed the same body alive immortal. Ye see grat ed into Christ bears death. All religions can- not discern this, but it is true; this is that greater . 8 Jesns had to snffer death to conqner death. Bat when he laid down the body he had power to take it again, because he was in Christ, the hranch, and dwelt between the root and branch ; the root died, but the branch lived. My wife's body is dead, yet ia called Wroe. But if the Spirit of God, which raised up the body of Jesus, dwell in man, it raises him from mortal to immortality. Observe one thing : when it says Christ died, he had left the body ; but when it was raised the life of Christ was in it, and it was planted by that Spirit. Then it asks us one thing, will he plant it in an un- clean thing ? Then our bodies must be washed from all filthiiiess before that one immortal Spirit can be planted therein, then will man dwell between the root and branch. Written from John Wroe's mouth by Benjamin Eddowes. Wakefield, IQth of 1st month, 1859. Sabbath hour. Question. — Benjamin Eddowes, whose wife is the woman in her separation ? Answer. — Tlie wife of Satan. Question.— Then she became of the watchman of the night? Answer. — Yes. Question, — Then there is L*noth?r watchman, is there not, who is the watchman of the day? Answer. — Yes. There is an appointed time when the watchman of the night was to be driven out, for at the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter was to be estab- lished. Now there has been two witnesses, Enoch in the first dispensation, and Elijah in the second dispensa- tion, and he was under tlie law, still Satan was the watclinian of the night, but on the fourth day there came another watchman, the Lord Jesus Christ, who was so named befoi-e he was conceived in the womb «iid lie was set a lioht of the watchman of the day' to overcome the watchman of the nio-ht. At the river Jordan he was grafted into the Spirit of Zion, bein ''''" — ""o t'- put hi.„ there would hho r '„ ec L'"a't':'r';"' l'" 18 the resurreetioii ni' ♦!.« ''»nf tenon nt nil, lor he tbousaud years rfLe,r'° '^'"^J"''""^ "'" '""r driven out^oHhofi. l„Tf' "i"!' ""' '^"""> whodonotahiloi, ■ ^"/''" '^'■"'eMhose o,,t pufted i,l t e Wne h ,t ;:; ,^""-y ''"1" "'"«' be be KTafled a seeo ,? ,i,,,I T ,^'°T "* J'--""' "'«st AnHwer, Yes QaestioD-Foi the bodies of Adam and all Li. f f 3 ! II 11 the branches. Then is it not '' worthy the Lamb?" Must not the graft bear of the root ? Answer. — Yes. Question.— Grafted into Christ is to bear incor- ruptible fruit till he rose. "If the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus," that is the resurrection of the dead, he that raised up Christ from the dead, to shew a spiritual body for the dead, shall also quieken your mortal bodies. He shewed the spirit, soul, and body in one. Christ is the same Spirit, yet there were two risings. Then what spirit was it that shewed the incorruptible and immortal fruit ? Answer. -Christ. Thou hast answered wisely. Question.—It was Christ Jesus that raised the soul for the resurrection of the dead, and Christ raised up the body when the branch descended? Answer.— Yes. Thou hast answered wisely. Question.—Then if the branch dwell in you, he shall quicken your mortal bodies, and fashion it like unto his jrlorious body ; this is the miohty work of the Lord Jesus Christ. But man must have the branch jrrafted into him, then ho will become the watchman of the mVJit and of the day: but if only grafted into Christ they bear death ? Answer. — Yes. Question.—Then whatever stock a branch is graft- ed into it boars of the graft ? Answer. — Yes. Question.—Then is it not well to bo a gardener that they may know the grafts? ' Answer.— -Yea, if they understand it. Question.— Thou hast anawert'd wisely, (ho one grafting is a comparison of the other. Then if a graft he put in, let the stock bo what it may, it still bears of its own kind? Answer. — Yea. llpun reading explanation to law 2nd of Second I j ■ i I 12 Answer. — Yog. «.o nnd II p.oeos Josepli wn9 sold ior „e cmnl :";;:' '.r-^'-'vjr '"^'^ """ -ii'o" "lo. i^v J.... ,„iw i; ,"":.:', "" ""'i """ — ■»' Answer. — Yea. i\' . ^" "'^' ^' ^ '"•'^t> my body? -^IhoJ'UtmoiUlt, 1850. „„J;:';.'.'''>' "f "-■'""•>' "owortl, of Nowohurcl,, will. 18 Ansi swer.—No practice meetino" is allowed but for that purpose, that they may learn the tunes. 80 every one is left to their own will wliether they will serve the incorruptible Hod or the immortal, and yet they both make one God, for he is the divider of them both. Inquiries of John Gill, of Newchurch, with answers. First.— Joseph Corry, of Ashton, says, that in the Doorkeepers' Guide, Law 11, that neither the dis- pensation in the commandment, nor the laws, are to be read before preachino-. He desires to know how they are to do if no preacher be there, and if it be rio-ht to read one of tbe twelve sermons? Answer.— Tiiey can, if there bo no preacher there, but no other writinos to be read. Second.— As tithe accounts are to be burned by the doorkeepers, does tiiis mean the head door- Jieepers also ? Answer.— All accounts, let them bo where they will, after they luive been settled, are to bo burnt but the accounts and books at the IVesa are to be preserved. Third. —Can two bodies be made info one if they no-ree to do so, livino- three miles from each other, or are they bound to live within a mile and a hall" of each other? . Answer.— There is no tie of the distance ; such HHniiries is to put a yoke upou others which they Will not carry themselves. (Sicj^ned) J. A. J. Tina t^ a fommnnu irnm tno Lord : Tliat no otiicer hrnugliout the whole twelve tribes shall trade or tralhe with money belonging to the society; but all u ^■>n U,e money Ht is nn',"" ',""'. "'i" '""^^ l""'' te put in in "ife .fn,e ^Fl ' ''!,''T''' "'"'■'' "'»«' end, Kent, al'1 "".J.! ?,'f 'l^."''^'!' D"""^- «''aves. al,o a will before ho was Answer.— I cannot see elenrlv. Answer.— It Hill if we fnlfilit. fee, i^it not nowf.! Mu ^f\ '^ '"" '■",'" <" is f?,',nn °wiM '[/'"V;'"" !!", *^''^" of "- Almio-l,,. i^ ult';,re';.,;\rof God 1'^' •"■'"• ""' ^'"-^'"^^ '- Answer. — It will. ..^on'i is 1 . Ai" ..;?;"'r;:,^'- "?•• ":"!''-' "'» lie sav« " A, /• "/;,'"' »P<-'"l^»ot thiswlien nn,l ■ ' . ■ ^°""* "' "'" •"■•■'■H'l'os be bi'ohen olK and thou benin- „ wild olive tree, wort o" ffi I ,' and"';?, ""•""•;","' v'^' """" i'"''i''i- of , ;' o w , ' 1 , " ""'■' •'"' "'" »f tl'o olive tree ou/L..;;nd'i;nCd"thrt;;rM^ 17 the other for the living-, and he being- the resurrec- tion ot the dead. God is called the God of the liv- ing-, because the dead are brought to life, havin«r a spiritual body; for though there be two immortal fepmts, thoy are but one in trinity, beinff three in one, and one in three. Now many have died in this visitation, yet those Jett will receive them back again in the resurrection lor does It not say, "And every one that hath for- saken houses or brethren, or sisters or father or mother or wife, or children or lands, for my name's sake shall receive an hundred-fold, and shall inherit everlasting hie." Matt, xix, 29. Now that is the meaning of the parable, they re- ceive all back again in the resurrection. Question.-^Who did Jesus make his will to, for I am going to be taken away from you? Was it for those that were to die? How does thou understand It, ior the house of Israel must have understandiuo-, lor there IS to be no parable-no mystery, for all "is to be dec ared upon the house tops. Is it to the dead or the living? Answer.— To tlie living. Question. — Is there not both the soul and the body, and are not the dead brought to the liviuo-? Answer.— Yes, there is a portion for each. " Question. — Thy last answer is different to thy lirst. Is there not a portion for the body and a portion tor the soul ? And is there not a portion for the unbeliever.?— is it not divided even unto the re- bellious also? Is there not a portion for him that was the murderer? • Answer.- Yes, they are brought back to their former estate. Question,— Then Satan will serve God? Answer. — Yes. I have another question to put to thee about the Question.— Whether is it the male or the female tnat tlie sentence was passed upon ? I! !; II II M 18 ' Answer.— I tbink upon the male, iiiou hast answered wisely Question.— Then the female is free ? Answer.— Yes, if she keep free. 8he dkl uT'^^""' '^' "°^ ""^'' transgression when Answer. — Yes. prove man? And do not women keep ilie meanin«- Iron, then, cinldren ? Did she not take of tl.e evil ?" Answer.-Sntan caused tlie woman to take of it. AZ7"-Yer '"'"" ""' '^' '"' ^^'"'^ "^^''^'^ ? Question -Was not this temptation proved in Jesns with Satan, for through the evil being planted in the woman was not the inheritance divided for does it not say, "A certain man had two sons And the younger of them said to his fatherFathe; give me the porfon of goods that falleth to me A.d J e divided unto them his living." Luke xy. 13. Answer. — Yes. Question.— Whether is it the man or tne woman ha t't "". ^"''-•j"'""^. for I want thy answe,^ that the house of Israel may be strengthened by it ? Answer.-I thnik the woman divides it. ^ lliou hast answered wisely protdi::'M t;. " '""'' ''"'^^ "•^^"'^'^ "> '>"' " ''«» Answer.— He was made subject to it. Quest.on.--Are not all churches, of whatever reli- sword ? ' "''°° *''" ''"•"^' "'■'•"i'l of tho Answer. — Yes. The sword cuts tliem from the mortal bodv. Is it not l,ko the parable of Jesus: "The grouTof acej- 8a„ this will I do: I will pull down my barns and I'l'.Vi'!.:?,':?''"-; ""'. «!»' «"iJ unto hiin^Tho: f^ol xii°in*"en'^Ti *i"""- "" ™1«"-«'l «tthee." Luke xii. 10-80. liicn h. 18 separated till the soul and 19 . spirit be united as the ang-eJa of God. The Lord had made this a stumbling'-block to him. ?! What does Paul say of the Jaw : " Do we then make void the law thro'ug-h faith ? God forbid : yea we establish the law." Rom. iii. 81. "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring- us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith." Gal. iii. 24. That they who were dead in trespasses might be brought to life. Now do not the Protestants read that ? Are ye not called to know God ? I want ye to seek the im- mortal life of the mortal body, and the law is our schoolmaster till the appointed time. Now then take care, lest ye turn back and leave the law, and call it foolishness. Written from John Wroe's mouth by Benjamin Eddowes. Melbourne House, Wrenthorpey near Wakejield, 28th of 1st month, 1859. Sabbath hour. Question. — Ann Kisby, can a woman, when she BOWS seed, have the power to divide, or hand forth evil or good ? Answer. — Yes, die has that. Question. — Then if she have a brute of a husband how can she do it? Answer.— By looking to the Spirit to overcome for lier. Question. — Can she sow good seed if slie sows any? Answer.-— It will be mixed with the tares. Question. — She gives that which is evil? AriHWnr. — Vpa. it' aim m'voa ]ioi« ovJl Question. — Adam was overcome by Eve; it was planted there that man should not touch it, lest he I '::( II' i I Ml 1 I' i '! fill SO it not »°t been faitbfo? te""' ?y, « And if™ j. ve ler man's. svi. 12. What is that ? " ^°"' """n ?" Luke Anawer.-The otlier Spirit "ot been faithful i7ti,f Ik? /".'"^f"' '""' '0 af 1 e Answer.- Yes. ' "'""'' « another nian's ? KW^''*^^ ^et his «»ot ler ' r.L''l"<"» " '.anded to 1 i,t\tl„'""/'""'- i-uei man, tor mon*>v i'^ .i " "^lonfrmcr in Q«es(ion.--Wimt ^ ^I'^-'t I'benuZT Zu-T^ ,""" » %nre of (h<. defraud? If j'e do wha tL* •"" "''' ''""died "t ?o nianda, are ve nof f • , """* miniorlal Smrit „„ be feicLful. ^rsat faidtto" t? "" "-X^Z *? «« ?ods, knowing gooaVnIf "T^' " ^« «''«I1 JN^ovvhasnot woman a%T»„fi •®''''- <^«n- "i. 5 her issue ? '" " ff^at desire to Lrin». font Answer-Generally. , question.— TIjen i/d i . Qaestion.— Then if *l „ i "'7 they not to seek ;oLnr'* ""*', "">«" f-'tbfnl »oal, from the seconT ,"''*""'"'=«- "'''ell is "forT/'.ii '.. 8've you (hat &?..r ''.««'' '"-".ful wl'o shall give yon thnf ^^'""'^ ""' been ,„,„„„, °"" '"''" "*^"«"*^"'«-«laVtliefi;str;s?r- 21 rection? Then if that is done for the soul, how much more for the hody ? Do they not submit to the priest for he salvation of the soul ? Then how much more for the body? Ask it of him who has over- come sm, death, hell and the ^rave. .Then woman can sow 8:ood or evil, but if she be purified good, but if not purified tares. ^ ", "uo Answer. — She does. Question.-The Virgin Mary waited and looked nnto that immortal Spirit. Eve looked unto a Jyinc spin , which said ye shall be as gods. What iniao-? did she hand unto the man ? A murderer who slew ins brother because in him was another seed. But 1 she had looked unto that immortal Spirit rould she not have overcome death ? Answer. — Yes. That is the w^ay and manner it will come upon the whole house of Israel, they must be grafted into that immortal Spirit, and be faithful, and then it will be gra ted into them, then it is life. But if ye be not faithful, then are ye buried with him m baptism, to be justified by his resurrection. But if vfcto^-'' ^"^"ioi'tal, then death is swallowed up in mlowcT ^''''^ ^''^'' ^^'°'*' "'°"'^ ^^ Benjamin Melbourne House, Wmithorpe, near Wakefield Qth of 2nd month, 1859. Sabbath hour. In reading the word where it says, "A livinir dorr 18 better than a dead lion." EccleL ix. Z ^Jo?„ dea^dTonT*""^^^" '' *^' ^'"'"^^ ^'«> ^^'^ ^^^° '' *^« I inbelievere S3 Answer.— It is said tli j.^Qa.stion.-But it is sa.u „„ „ setter than a dead brotrbTToIefir" *'^" ^' " ''"I'-f their bein^ Thou hast answered wisely. Question.— Who is the dead lion? Answer.— -I cannot see clearly the^t" ibeTf7;'dah7' '"" ^'™' ""'''^ ""^ «- °f Answer. — Ves. Question.— Did not he die ? Answer. — Yes. fJw if -f i' *'" ."If Answer.— The vine tree. Question.-When the fig tree is in the Spirit, U is then in ^ he vine tree in that state. The law of Christ will make the whole house of Igrr.el Jean- their blood that I have not cleansed T Joel iii. 21. What 18 man called in that state ? Answtr. — A fig- tree. Question.— No, he is the olive tree. Answer.-Is he not a fig- tree as weli, the same as when a woman is in the Spirit she is called a vine? T^nf/nl- i-T *'^^^^^ °^^^^ ^'"^^^'^ i«to the pure olive, which was Jesus. ^Qaestion.— A certain man had two sons, and the eWeiylew the younger; what day was that done Answer. — J cannot answer. Question.-I„ the parable it says the younger son wasted his substance With riotous living; and all Ma seed Werp whnromnn«.^..„ l.„..l.x_ ^ 7' "" "'" -- — '•«-:=', ii.irjuis, ana murderers ^nd when the Almighty, the Father of all, sawS coming, he had compassion upon him, and fell upon 24 his neck, and kissed h fatted calf. What day im, and killed for him the call, vvnat day was tJiat Kiiie Answer.—The fifth thousand year. Inou hast answered wisely. Question.- Who was the fatted calf slain for^ dertir'' ' *^'^ '^"^"'^ '°"^^^° ^'«« themur-. Jes^usT^'''"*"^^^'''' *^'' ^^*^'^ '^^^ ^'« *^^ ^^°°^ of Answer. — Yes. Slid, I liavo sotten a man from th. Lord," Oen IV. i, and this seed slew tlie oilier seed. Then vvInVh was the blood of Jesus given for ' Blat"'"'^'"'~'^°'" *''" '"^'^ S'ven in the place of that Qneslion.— Then Jesus was slain, he beino- (ha Lamb slam from the foundation of the world, ^hlh remam, nnf.l the final resurrection, then this iaes '"sUMrf 1 ti'o murderer, for does not God «; done ?"T '-'^" "S'y ?'"' "'« ^'■'^ '■""' 1 done It ? Amos iii. 0. He placed the evil, and ea -« nsown hood in his Sou for the transffre U" "^^m.a ns bo.ly for the living. And Jesus sa?s, " He th t behevolh on me, the works that I di shall he o nlso: and greater works than these shall he ,1 ° became I r-o unto n.y Fathe,." John xiv. 12. W I, „' Jesus said, " Uccause I live ye shall live also," Jol m XIV. li), was ho immorlnl then or not ? Answer.— Immortal. Thou hast answered wisely, for so it was. Ho was Wn walking. ,„ t ,« day, „„,| not in the ni>ht. The„ riirl n , "'r''1 "'■ " |''-''t<-'»''ndboonlyk Uiiist, 1 must bo slam, and fro to the .rravo nntil the first resurrection. ].„t all the world ^anno "li o immortal-they cannot see that any will jret what Jesus spoke ot, " J.ecai.so I live yo shall live .1"" Written Irom John Wroo'a ...nnti, Uy n„..:__._ Eddowe*. "* ' ">f"j'«uiu 25 Melbouriw House, Wrenthorpe, near Wakefield, 26th of 2nd month, 1859. Sabbath hour. Question.— Benjamin Eddowes, when Christ de- scended and rested upon the body of Jesus, being- then ^n-afted to him, whether was he then the watch- man of the day or the ni^rht ? Answer.— While the Spirit abode with him, the watchman of the day. Question.— No, he was not, he was then the watch- man of the nio-ht. Answer.— Was he not both? ^ Question.— No, he was then the watchman of the niS"ht, for he said, " Seal the law amonjr my disci- ples." Isa. viii. 10. The life of the body was then sealed from them. Did he not say, " I am the vine?" John XV. 5. And did he not then come to bear fruit for incorruption ? Answer.— I am not prepared to answer the ques- tion. He came then to bear at first incorruptible fruit, but now says, "I am ho that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen j and have tho keys of holl and of death." Kov. i. 18. Did he not then say, *' Except yo repent, ye shall all like- wise perish." Luke xiii. ,'J. And did ho not thori have to g'ivo the fruit of his body for those who hud to repent, they having- trans- gressed ? Did not Jesus go and bo baptizod of John for those who shall have part h\ tho tirst resurrec- tion, ho thou hoing of the incomiptiblo Ood? Tho life of tho body was then sealed from thrm. Jesus said tho day-star should arise in them. That is tho branch of ('hrist grafted to them a second time; tho fii-st graft is the salvation of tho soul to both .)vw and (ientilo. That one inin»ortHl Spirit rulVrri"^ Jesus to be slain for thorn ; how can they servo him? He saya, " I am sought of them that asked not for 2Q me : I am found of them that sought me not; I said, f -I I Behojd me, behold me, unto a nation timt was not called by my name." Isa. Ixv. 1. ^""^ And does he not sav, "If vp nhiM« ;.-. ,v,^ j wordn nbi,]n i.. ,. ^' i T, ^^."'^^"e m me, and my 1111 " ^"""^ 3'e shf.ll ank what ve wi 1 and it Bha be done unto you." John xv. 7. ^ ' """^ '^ Te :o;;r" "'"" "■■='"' '^'"«'' « '-• ^l-a Bahaaon "f I Imve nrmflier question to put unto thee nn,l Ipf ^"t:'tho^"7 ';-' J"^'//"-" ^' writteu thai t ± fi^"'^ "'"""ololiouse of Israel. ^ "l^e Jew ,™,lT "''" v" ''°'''^" ^'"«'' ''"-l been read. tl.e„l,„d the onh' ""'■'?" T ""'"'"' •■'"• '"■« «'"'> «"g: I'ia sins for the sal- prn™. fl, M '""'i H"' "'« t""e " at hand when tl,o K the al nM," " ?■;? ^'V"" •'« "" «bon,ination.» pnoe 'o'l^^i Meu'bors ol the Israelite Church, vol. iii. Question—Now Ims he that has tulcen the cove- lias made a covenant for the lifo of t L 111 ' ? n ml fh , It I'T " "'" «"i<«linmn of the day 80 nn,1 . '^"'""i""' of tho ni^rht for the Aiuinoitai. JNow 1 want thy answer Answer.— I cannot answer now. 1 rayer is to become an abomination from those who have made a covenant for tho lifo of th^ body nnd who have tiirniMl back. ^' (jjuoHtion.—Upon reading- theso wor.Is in mo-n (\>\7 of the same voln.no, Safan'eomplains to !h/Si?l^. n»an ana it HavH nnK, Satan, Fro;n whoncecomuth tliou from walLng. up and down among the stones of 87 fire ? Now, Benjamin Eddowes, what are the stones of fire ? Answer.— The lust that is in them. It is the uneleannesa of the woman. And a man may g-o up and down among it, whether with his wife or not his wife. Written from John Wroe's month by Benjamin Eddowes. Melbourne Ilousej Wrenthorpey near Wakejield, 2nd of Qrd mouthy 1859. Inquiry of Sarah Haddocks, of Frodsham, with answer. " I wish to know whether I cannot have tlie word that comes out every month, and pay for it?" Answer. — It is not allowed. Inquiry of John Bishop, of New York, with an8W(>r. "Thoreis a mnn and wife half members, 1,200 miles from JVew V'ork, dosirous to taKe the cove- nant. The woman obtninod a divorce from a former husband, who was a Alormon, and lived with otiior women. In this divorce the laws of tlio land allowed her to marry noaiu. This took place many years ng-o; and wliother the man she was divorced from is dead or livinnf she does not know, but she is free ao- cordiufT to the law of the land. Tho American mem- bers fliat (he case has been uiiiwed to consider them free for tho covenant." A na fftii ttri^H I J xrntsvi nur.oniiu or wifo ho doad, Of the hiw of the land aUow them to marry, they nuirry them under tho act of adultery, and if they hHve taken the coveDant the law of Christ frees them from adultery, therefore they can take the covenant at the time appointed. (Signed) J. A. J, Melbourne House, Wrenthorpe, near Wakejield, Uh of Qrd month, 1859. Sabbath hour. I am moved npon nJ ^\\\ 1...1 pai.sh, and they will drink of that wate/by ^hl^b they will ne?er th'rst. ^ 29 Benjamin Eddowes, I am moved upon ag-ain to put another question to thee. If one ^et tlirouo-h another way, are they for the living* or the dead ? ^ Answer. — For the dead. Thou hast answered wisely, so is both Jew and Gentile, which are as the two stafFs, Beauty and Bands ; the one stafF refuses the other, they will not g-o throug-h tlie two jrates, for they who pass throuo-h, to them it is a tree of life on one side, and upon the other side. The law and g-ospel are the keys that open the g-ates, but the world will climb up some other way. They will climb over the wall which brings them to repentance for the soul, and if thev have not repented they are kept back till the final day of judgment, and they are as a thief and robber to their own body. Life is set before them, but the murderer refuses to go through the gates, but climbs up another way into the sheep fold. I am kept from going- abroad because the two posts are not up, but when they are up, then behold, a fatal May* for man. Now every one is afraid of a thief coming in the night time, and is it not so with death ? Question.— These men who are Jews, tlu^t are now in parliament, are they grafted in for the salvation of the soul? Answer.— They are not grafted into Jesus for that. Question.— Are they not grafted into the law ? Answer. — If they keep it. They are not grafted in for the life of the body, for tlie law is the life of the body, but they are grafted in with the CJcntiles for the salvation oftheir Bonis through repentance. AVritten from John Wroe'e mouth by Benjamin Iliddowea. * III tlio following May rommetirod the wnr lirfwrrn Frnncc and Avistfia, in which mmy ihousaad w«ro dsauoyud on boih aidtts. mi i inii 80 ^^'f^'Md, m of m month, mg. Joqpnl, Ql T Sabbath hour. 8p.rit with tl,ee to a «", T ''?« ",«" immortal J«''«el, flmt they may ave IZ ^'l' T''°'« ''"-^^ of t hem. There are tZ stafF, ? •'''^'^'"" ^'^«" to other Bands; these two e^^tl"?' ^^'"'l^^' ""'' "'« staff. JVow who are t^,» f "™ *° ^"'conie one Bands? "° "« "'« two staffs, Beauty and qZT'"~i'^ and Gentile. tl'e Jaw, bnt the Jaw ind 00^,' V ^1''''' ^^«"''« '» {■ody ; Beauty is tl,e .ofnefll ', "'" '"■« °f tlie Bands was cast sideways ';,;|"?:';''r" """ ean,e '■n'e; but when the two sti."ll ""'' ^™P''-e to not life ? '*^° *t'cl>s ai'e made one are tliey Answer.— Yes. ' Question Then if n . «omesT«ftedasone fr tKl""r """/' '""'« be- not the fulness of them cotT '^""o" "' "'« «ouI, is I lien hear, house of Israel I ivi . 'omff slnmberino- in thv , , "' "''' *'•«« '■■•earners? Are ^.ot These sht"! ^'"f'''' ^^ fi'"'y now in parllau.ent, B^utv ' ■! f ^^^<'<"'"' "« one t'ey not 'lilloront .il s o^v™ I .','''"1 ""' ■"'«>■« t^>ey not as the flowers,,/ 1 ,? 1?^ , "'^ ^'"•<' ' ^ ■'« 0''"Mhe stones or sa, 1 „f (I ' ""' '"" '''"'o ? t.'.e fir„,ament, all „ Zt:!t 0,1^'"' ""• "'« «""'« i" 4^:::' :;:>'' th'aTS ;'r't^"° '"'•■-• ^''- «oe. ^ 1.0 Jew stiehs .0 hil": „':,;:,," ''•";!"■• to Lis .ilV.' >« tl". snerilice of hr.ad , d ,1 '"n"' """' "'"■«'' t be Lord, 1 willffa.V, ZJTl /'" "'"-^ '"'"• Were there not .r„w« rls ,, ' ' ^'T" "'"'" both. B«w Jesus ascendT llil'l*"" '"""''''"I -'ows who wUh the Goutile.y TW tlZ ir tlZe.l a^t 'i::d" 31 the ten tribes are the remnant which shall come out from amono- the Gentiles, and the two tribes will come out from Bands, and they will form the twelve tribes of the house of Israel. Tlien will the sins of Israel be souoht for, and not found, for God will have then kept the law in them. Bands has not Kept their laws, nor the Gentiles theirs, which is Beauty. They will not believe for God to do the work in them, therefore they are of the dead, and not of the livino-. Ilemember, house of Israel, it IS by God workino- in thee, and by thee that the works ot the law will be kept in thee. Then thou will be the choice of both Beauty and Bands, and they shall worship thee. Thus saith the Lord: Go thou forth, man, in the month of May, and I will then shake the nations, and they shall tremble before my word, for they shall burn and destroy that mother of harlots, for I the Lord will do it by workinrj- in tiiem. Question.— Jesus said, "Hitherto have ye asked nothino* in niy name; ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full." John xvi. 24. Now what had Beauty and Bands not asked for? Answer.— It appears they had not asked for the iiie ot the body. Question. — Thou hast answered wisely, they had only asked for the life of the soul, they had not asked to be made in the imaoe of God. Answer, — ]>Jo. Question.— Hitherto have ye asked for nothino- in my name; both Jew and Gentile then only asked to be tor<^iven? Answer.— Only to be forg^iven of what they had done. •' Question.- Tlioy do not ask for God to do his work in them, but do thoy not confess to jud(nucut? Answer.— Thoy aeknowled(re it. ^ Question. If they confosg to it, does it not thou shalt die - , ..^« aay and did not man at first confess? And if they offer a sacrifice does that not show that ili I 82 th a nian do the ^ey confess for the salvation of the soul? How can a nian do the work ^ T^f i • """ °^"^ ' -now can "ot tl.e Gentiles^",, to LT,"-- ^'''\'- ^^'- ^0 vants, Bri,,. tl>e best rohp t^o /^^lier say to hia eei- ]nit a rino- on Lis l.nn 1 „ i' ? '^ P"' " "" h'm = ood XV. 22.) " '"""■' "'"' «''»'« °n Ws feet? (Luke Answer. — Yes. e«roredtiie:,.t'r\';fd'"tf"''"T" """''« ''««<"•>- in flesh, it is God that ^,«f-''*^'' ""' " ""■""mcised «l.at is'the eire^lnttn" thrrsr;;?th" 'r'' '"' tlmt innnorl 1 Spirit H,ev nf T i""^ ™" «"'<"• '"'o in flesh and 1 enrr Wh Jn ? ''" ,<:"''';"»<"'«^a both and when the shoes wll?",' "* "'1 ''"'^'^ ««"»"'"; Ro tln.onffh he^'^es 'Tl,rrboTT. '"'Z'^^' !,'« """'J will not be nbl/to Lk „/ i • ^'''^ ""'' ^"'"Is will he fransnaren/ 1 '"!",' "'"•«''« l"'n, for lie {^-.andjaiL^rddl^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Answlr"'!?'"' T*" "« "'« '""» ♦» thee? y«eation.-But if a .tranter come, to inquire, do.e \i 83 thou not require them, that they may read them, for perhaps they have never seen or heard tell of them, for does it not say, " Be not forgetful to entertain strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares." Heb. xiii. 2. Answer. — Yes. For one of the house of Israel may come to thy house that thou knows nothing of. J^ow Jew anS Gentile are under repentance — the one under the law, the other under the gospel, Beauty and Bands, these have two different gifts. Now there is the house of Lords and the house of Commons, these have two different gifts, these are as Jew and Gentile, and are both for the death of the body. But what, alas ! they are not made in his image. But what, alas ! though the living is brought to trial before them, they will say as Pilate eaid ; We find no fault in these people worthy of death. Behold then to the living he says, " Because I live, ye shall live also." John xiv. 10. Behold, the two staffs have become one staff, Beauty and Bands. Behold, they shall fall down and worship them, for in them will be the rod of the living God. He says, " I am sought of them that j'.skod not for me ; I am found of them that sought me not." Isa. Ixv. 1. Now if he is sought of them that asked not for him, how much more will he be of those that ask, for does he not say, " I will yet for this be enquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them ?" Ezek. xxxvi. 37. Then if one in the house of Israel offer his prayer, so that it be heard by another person, he is then askino- amiss -better not say it at all than be heard saying it. Beauty and Bands ask, but do the thing again. Question.-— Then if one of the house of Israel comes and submits to the law of Christ, and goes and does the same again, is he any better than Jow or Gentile? Answer^ — No, If we submit to the law of Christ, and transgress not again, that frees us, for it does the work in us, £ 1 I ' / 34 and keeps the I Ye have an eviden r'^n'" "'', °r^^, ourselves. Then it m me, and I in you." Joh IS nxiv.20. Tlienthey fted into theD,:""""'"' "" ''«^"''"°'=e "/C anffst sSi^'t,;:"""^'^' fP'"'' -d it is is found of them t ,?/ iTJ'?'" "^"'^ «" 5 ^"^ ^o Beauty and Band" for H *•''!' ''•'" ""*' ^^ich is fortLtVt/:Zf i^nTo^t "^^ '" -^"- prayer tlirouffh a short n,ol? ,. "", ^"^ "°* "'^ir "■•gat time tire^ are s akenTn'^.i '^"V^I'oW. *■> the repeat it. But let nl t!,? \ •"*"" ''^''' "'"' *''en -ot sleep till we ,te„ttrrdTtV°' /'"'''?' ^"^ °« ask for the salvation of thi > , ^'"'"t)' and Bands to Beauty, Bands sdve7rl" het'" .'" t"''"^** The Lord caused in hn,. , I ? .. m^ieritance. at Ashtonrburi'VrdH :„''^f,t'*i[i'''f,-ri'"' '"itn"-? ^^'"'"«' »''«' whorrof Br/on ^ "" '^"^ We 'm; ntfitf zi tf^ "' °r°' '■"- -w of Israel forge to ask for 7"^f' 1 "°* *''" •">"«« work in thenrby writ.W it n^t 1 • ''f """^ ''° '"« tlieir inward parts tZ \i^°°u'^'!'. '"''"•'«' "^d in there is but one p'roXf ^i "!!" / ' P^Phe^y, for Jehovah, thatT tll>,' ""^ "'l' '« the Spir t of if God die "he wlrk ttvT' u''t 7' •■"""• Then a prophet in Amer a o7i!T'^ ^ '"^ """ ">'"' «« itJs^lehovahthatwTiri^trk'L^trhi':? AFTEB THE SADBATO HOUR. Shaw" ^™'' P"' *'- f-'owin^ question to Joseph be&feTa?!,!:!!^,''?,'","-' Eve tl.eir spirits separate times ? " " '"'-^ ""^^ ^""»® ^o them at 85 Answer. — Yes, before they had souls, and came at separate times. Question. — The spirits of Adam and Eve were in one body in God, were they not, before they trans- gressed ? Answer. — Yes, both in one body. Question. — Now, mark forward. When they die, though they repent, is God a debtor to them ? Answer. — No, tliey are debtors to God, because he had given them their choice. Question. — Then the wicked that repent not owe both debts ? Answer. — Yes, they are debtors to the soul and body. Question. — Then God shews his power io both Jew and Gentile, but to them whom he shews it not, what is to them ? Answer. — Why, it is not required of them. Question. — Do they not say he is a hard master? Answer. — Yes, they believe so. Question. — Does he not shew his mercy to the greatest debtor, but are not the Jew and Gentile debtors ? Answer. — They will be debtors. Question. — They repent, and believe for nothing but the soul. Cannot the spirit be seen distinct from the soul? — but has it any power to act upon a spirit that has a soul, for if the spirit be apart from the soul is there any resurrection ? Answer. — Not if the spirit is separated from the soul. I have always thought that a spirit could not act upon another spirit that had a soul. It cannot. Then why should any one fear seeing a spirit when it is separated from the soul ? These words are to be written, for I have declared them with this rod in my hand, and my handkerchief upon my head. Written from John Wroe's mouth bv BGnianiin Eddowes. I 86 Melbourne House Wrenthorpe, near Wakefield, llthof Srd month, 1859. J Sabbath hour. vlln^ ™r^i "P°" *^ P"* a question to Benjamin aUo b^ore n,y Father which is in heaven." Mat" T «5»ed '"'fore )„ was Purely .[ie... Gel ii T?.'''"" ""^'" "'"•«»^' "^o" '•"'l' Answer.— It npiionrs so. di-tmid hee a nd thou 1T ''"I' ""'"""""'f "'''«'' it not? ' "" "'''' » '"P '0 e«t«lj it, u Answer.— Yos. Qiiostion — Uebollloi. «.„„ ;_ i , . s^ssrc;? "Sizars 41 woman, but man took of that the Lord had placed to try l|im by, and instead of him watching- it, it watch- ed liim. 80 is it with 7nan now, and with tlie house of Israel ; but if thou hast the law in thy heart, what use are the printed laws to thee? Answer. — None. Question.— But until then thou hast need to have them? Answer. — Yes. Question.— To read them and hear them ? Answer.— Yes, or g;et some one to read them. Question.— But thou must hear them, that thou may understand them, for they are to separate the whole house of Israel from Jew and Gentile, for the Jews are called that that they are not, as some are called Israel that are not of Israel. Had not Abra- ham two names, but did he have them at one time ? Answer.— No. My name is John, and then Wroe. Was it not said of Abraham's two sons, that they should bo mul- tiplied as tlie stars in the firmament, or the sands upon the sea shore? Bid not Isaac have two sons, Jacob and Esau? And did not Jacob, who was t!ie younjror, deprive Esau the elder, of the inliorilanco? And wlion Jacob had obtained the blessing-, did not lllsau cry, " Hast thou but one blessing, my father?" Gen. xxvii. IW. Bid not Isaac say the voice is Jacob's voice, but the hands are the hands of Esau. Isano must have then spoken hy another spirit. Bo not they who arc for tlio M.-ilvalion of the soul cry out ns ]*]sjiu (lid ? '< J last thou but one bloHniiig, my iathor ?" ]Jut did no( Iwaacsay unto Esau, " lloli()l(l,'(hy dwoU ling- shall bu the fatness of the earth, and of the dew of heaven from above: And by the sword shalt thou live, and shalt servo thy brother ; and it shall como to ]n\m when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt, break his yoke from otf thy iiook." When Jrsns canio was not" that yo\uy broken? Bid not Jacob offer 1 Isau a part of his (lock, but did not Esau iuy he had enough ? But are not Jacob F ii 'ill 42 and Epau now aoreeino- nn,l ,r/^* t i • , out from them both '^ Wl, f' ^^"'"'^ "' *» ""me 80118 of Jacob" nvWn Ia'I ''f "«?""' J'J "ot the never iu bon.I ii i! „^ ^'^'■"''•';"> « ««.,!, „„a were A j,i.„i, .,,,.> . 1 .,. «^<'Sus 8(11(1 1 know vo avQ toMZtC'lj' r^u ^'"••^'"""'« chih/ren ;: ■10 I TF *i '""^ "' Abraham. (Jolin viii aa- wo' Id o ti,7r,.: ^'cf"f'"J Abraham tliey called at f5 t Ab im L,V '"*■ }\"' ""' Abraham tbev tin !n '""" ",""'■-' "- theclXrenofGod or that office J ut , , n ''""'"?' «"« ^""itioff this IVom mortal to in n ortil tv ^.°'''"'> '"'\t'"" «'"•"*?" l>oii.' ''"^'^ f'o chance of what"woarc„o <* 7,,"'"''"'" \" ,"'•« «'> ^I'^J AVns not Jacob and it7 f^ T ^^'f"^"''^ «™d." eav • liim, In tT . . ^'."' "''"' ''""^ t'lo Lord o'lv . jjsau do 1 ijnto. Jehovah siiv« i1„.t e i i vah hatea ileiitl. i,' '^'"'^"y ""»> lor J« ho- ci:,.r.; t'lrs- •'-'' ■"•■■^••i- «' -S. Answer. — No. '■I'lion hast answered wisely (.>"08tion.--Th,.„howdoeshodoit? O ueslion" rl, r.''''*-'*'''"'' «™'''"J '"'" '""»• >,ono •~*^''" ''"" '" ''""'■ W" »™ ovil, ho had Que.tion.-Dut without that how will it h„ „ todio ""■"'"" they will not die, and Lo Lad u Question.— Jesus had to taste death for every man. I have another close question to put to thee. Jesus said, " Every plant which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up." Is not every one that dies rooted up in the resurrection ? Answer. — Yes. Question. — Then these cannot be the Lord's plant- ing", then they are g-rafted tog-ether by Satan .'' Answer. — Grafting is not planting*. Question. — If Christ be grafted into Jesus, is not Christ the life of him ? Answer. — Yes. Question. — Every plant which my heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted up. It'he be grafted into him he must be planted, if lie abide in him. If thou graft man into Christ, and Christ be the root, is not the stock fed by the root ? Answer.— Yes. Question. — Then man is the boll? Answer. — Yes. Question.- -lSh\n is planted in one sense, and not in another, lint if a man bo grafted 'n it not of the Lord's plantirig"? Answer. — Yes. Question. — Did he not bring* Jesus to life again, thouii'h ho had been under deatli 'i Answer. — Yos. Question. — Then was that not the fatness of the root of (/hrist ? Answer.— Yos. Question. — There is the root and branch of Christ, and man is the boll. J'aul, in the New Testament, says to tiio liouso of l']^^au, IJoast not ag-ainst tho branches, for if (Jod npiu'ed not tho natural branches, (tho house of .Iiufob,) take Iwml lent ho also spare not thee. (liom. xi. 18, '21.) And are they not out oil' by death i If n nwm die will tho branch abide in him '{ Answer. — No, Question. — If a man is grafted into Christ, will 44 eertam daye under pe„„Uv if ", ''".■'''''''''•^'i >"" "Pon Answer.— JVo. " ^ Question. ^Thnn «„ nnderstaud them? ^^ ""'''« ^^^'^ Me, hear, or -Answer. — JVo ab'^ra^i^-n who a^^^^^^ in the vine till it tal Father, „nd he wiUnevi rT "P^" '"« ''""nor- s no envy of offices tin J- i '""*.<*' <'«»'!• There b".t all will be7ons .nd ,^„ w '' "'^J'"'*?'^ or judo'eas do-nff Ins will,Z w" oTf ^'•'^°*' f''« '"'"'ff <>od; Jeeus Christ. I ^^\^ ^* ,'^"'"' ''wband, the Lord Which may .eemstrano-eTnt! ^ """""■ """'PaWson, >«»" the head of the wSma„ " "•""" ^''^- I« «ot' Answer.— Yes A;;:wMti!eve7„.r.rt'5:'t'' '""'^ "=»'« ? Antr -D^rri ""'"''' ''- " " '""* sot it a^ak? "'"" ""' ^"- ■■' onee, but hast thou »v lien tlie woninn n.,^* xi wntch„,an of the nthf I "n,'""""' ,'''« ''««"»'« "'e ;«. '"y, and this ! a ' 'T" '^ "'« wat,,h„,„„ of >lii-hsh«uhl «-et the SCO Z;..".-**''™' wrestling <^™ not ofte", a wr tZ "f . • '"" "'"''''^ ^ «'"' '» tV lifii that law was nl, „f ^ • ''"""-cP'nt'nt aivon? fy faitl., hut it no r: l,fr7"*f } "«« nearlos „ uestion.— If r nxv^ ♦! ^'^*^^"^e- stolen from thee ami fh ^ '"^" of money, or have ihon suffer thrnV"l , t^fti: ^^ ^ ^'^^^' "-. ^ Answer.-I believe T 7 A^ '^'''^ question. QiK^stion.-_Do 2.^ " '"^*^^^' ^^tl/wajs. by a false oath ? ""'""^ '''' ^ ^^a«; and conquer Answer.— Yes. ^^Que,.io„.-Then if thou oo„a»erb,thaMoe. thou »ot lotter to avoid an oa"M" " ''""■' '"«'"°'-y '« '*■ Answer.— Yes. ^inswer.— feonietimes. V'UGstion.— It is better nnf f« ^ i f /an does ^^ood against ev-i 1. ? "" ""^^^ ' ^^ « that evil? ^ ^^ e\iJ, does ho not suffer for Answer. — Yes. "otterco";revrwkir".''''?'" "'"l"^"- '"" ''f I do con^norovil? ' 8"°'' "uu I suffer, or can 1 Answer. — No. -;•;' "«-•- "- oti e^„::,l' "vir^;.' rlL'^tti Answer. —Thn «yq "*""'""• -^°^' '-'--J-tand^e; it i.«„„„ 47 be cannot climb over to steal or defraiulj or take anotber man's pro erty ? If a man takes another man's wife does be not tnke anotber man's property ? But if be bas a wall walled round liim be cannot do ibis ; the children of Israel bad bouses in a walled city. (juev. xxv. ^9.) Now wbat is tbat wall? Answer. — The Spirit of God. Thou bast answered wisely, tbat is the w.all wbicb will keep man from doinj^ evil, be will be as in a walled city. Time back be could not keep from evil, but anotber Spirit is given to bim to overcome tbe evil of the flesh, he finds a wall now. Question. — Paul said, " For that wbicb I do I allow not." Horn. vii. 15. Would be bave said that if be bad not dono it.^ Answer. — No. Question. — Then wbetber will it be in secret or public ? Answer. — By go'iuor in secret. Question. - ■He finds it in secret, not in public. Do not they seeking' the salvation of tbe soul cry out in public? Then wben be says go out into tbe bigb- ways and villages preacbing" and compelli <;>' them to come ill, is that to the incorruptible or immortal? Answer. — They cry out to the incorruptible. Question. — Are tboy not commanded to cry out in tbe highways for them to come out for the life of the body ? Then wbetber is tbat to the incorruptible or immortal ? Answer. — If tbey bo not of tbe immortal tbey can- not bear. Question. — If one docs bear, and comes out by the preacbing", and joins, docs bo want preacbing* after tbat? Answer. — No. Question. — They want no preacher then, but tho Spirit, wbicli will be tho prophet and bead of tiio one bundred and forty-four thousandj that head is Christ. Then does a man get that by going to prayer accord- ing to tbe laws of his country ? 48 Answer.— No. tlK!?"illT'~^""' ""^^^ ^ ^^'"^ ''^'' '^ *- prove Answer.— The four books of Moses. Qnestion.— Thou liast answered wisely then fl.Pv are the law of the testimony ? ^' ^^^ Answer. — Yes. Answer.— No. Q,ue8tion.--Then there is one year to prove it in ? Answer. — Yes. »«=xoiu. Now that is the last thousand years which we are now :n, and t^.e four books of Moses will prove the testimony, " Keep my law and thou shalt lile." A d the dead who have repented, whether male or female, Will have a part in that testimony. But the Uw\l the hte of the body which Christ Lpt in JelX wlTich Jesus IS now sendino. to fulfil it in man. ' Ediwes''' "^'^^^ ^^'"''^ ^'^'^^ ^y ^^^j^^i^^ ill! I Melbourne Ilovsey Wrentliorpe, near WahefeUl iiOth of Qrd month, 1859. anlZ"'^ "^ ^^''"'"" ^°^^' "^ Hollinwood, and "Shall wo be doing> wroiiff in rending a chapter of Scnpturo first in the afternoon service before the commencement of the sermon?" can'^brroar'^ ''''"^""' "' ""^ '""'' °^ ^^' Scriptures 1 answer. "qniry of Elizabeth Deane, of Gravosend, and 49 We have received some tunes for peculiar metre eoiif^s from John Gill, and if the same have not already heen sent by John Bishop, can we put them in the Tune Book? We onoht to have some one who is qualified to correct the copies of music. Answer. — Any tune not already in the hook for the metre required by the Sonj^s, can be put in, if not already in ; and any one who is qualified may correct the copies where there is any error in the tunes. (Signed) J. A. J. Melbourne House, Wrentliorpe, near Wakejieldj 1st of 4zth month, 1859. Scibbath hour. Benjamin Eddowes, I am moved upon to put this question unto thee. If I go and oifer up my prayer in secret, am I then asking in the righteousness of man or of God ? Answer. — Asking for the righteousness of God. Question.— But if I go into the pulpit and offer up a prayer, what have I then asked in? Answer. — The righteousness of man. Question. — Then that in secret is for the righteous- ness of God ? Answer. — Yes. Thou hast answered wisely. Question.— Tiien if a man say I have been at prnyer, and have prayed for another man, is that after the righteousness of man or God? Answer.— His own righteousness. I am moved upon again to put a strange question unto thee by that imnu)rtal Spirit. OuGstion, — If a man has appeared to the eye of lave lived a riffhteous life, and hj man to gone always to be forgiven of Christ, and at last he is G ijiffi J SI I I 50 nient, and has prayed for himself nnri ^fi • .^ BUrht of the pelli, until hoT' „"",'; "- "be" Has he received of the thin-rs that are nf .1!" • f . eousness of God or of man '' VnTLt ■ !, ""'''■ of the mercy of Gof a^fas safri^ th 'p I'/C mercy endureth for ever. ^^^^^ ^"^ Answer.—Of man. Thou hast answered wisely. {oJ^mo"Z'^^e^lt<^Tr°t '" ^"." ^«'"''««' book inheritanee^-f h.ve ,^oH ' "?' ''"'^'' '''•°°' *'"'"• "-r ^^ wh r^arjhi^rLriXnr;""" '° •"" Answer.— Their temporal land. and^rp^rTl''"' *'' ""'"''-^ « ^oth spiritual Wakefield, Srd of ith month, 1859. -f , „, Sabbath hour. INow f a person came to one of these rrnfl! ! i' wanted to come in «;lio^ „i ^^ grates, and them ? ' ""^"^ "^'^•'^^ t^o« require of Answer.— A ticket. .. ?".'^^^^"- J^ ?»^ cornea and says he is a l«hn„..« ^^ An7we7'?rif''"^^ *^^^" ^«^»ire then? ■■"^'' Answer.-I should expect a signal. 51 Thou hast answered wisely. Question. — But if a member applied to thee to open the g-ate ? Answer. — I require his ticket. Question. — But if he says I have not one? Answer. — Then he must g-o to a place to get one. Question. — Would thou send thy wife to open the gate if thou had not answered, when he had said I have not a ticket? And if thy wife refuses, and he then goes to another quarter tor them to free him, and has been willing*, and is made free, does not the law of Christ then admit him in ? Answer. — Yes. So is the house of Israel. Question. — Now there is four gates to the building*, and there is a wall round, except upon one side, and a running water parts another man's land and the Lord's ground, and if he wanted to enter the Lord's ground by crossing' the water, or by climbing over the wall at times, would thou allow him? Answer. — It depends for what it was for. Question. — If thou was the watchman of that wall, I will make that comparison. If thou wji.-n the watchman of that wall, and upon the side that the running water was, and the man came over it, and entered the Lord's ground, what should thou say ? Answer. — I should want to know his business. Question. — Would thou have opened the gates by giving him his choice? Answer. — I should not without a ticket. Question. — But if he climbed over? Answer. — I should stop him. Question. — Then he would be thy prisoner? Answer. — Of course. Question. — So is the house of Israel as that, and every one who comes not to the law of Christ, though they iinve made a covenant with him, and are mem- bers of the church. Now there are two females at that house as servants, and one must stop and the ii ill I Iif'1 1 « 1 &2 Answer --I want notliino- to do with it draw one out, and tint nnl i I " , '**' "'® Judffess J>;J«o«svef„L ^le:^st„h"sn:„^'"''r,•, ^"' '' "'« J^''nv be no respecter o^^^^pI" 7'}^ ''"" '<> '1» it- [The lot, were mji ^f fi' ''"^' /f "• "»'• one drawn ont ,/ ie iudlp '.''^r'''«'"' '">»••, nnd »'. rnbera present] ''"''' '" ""* T^''^"""^ <>*' tlie EdEes!" '*■""• •'"''" ^^"""'^ ■"O""' by Benjamin ^th of 4th month, 1850. T>^ . . ^ , , Sabbath hour. ofisr,,,.! ,„„l (l,„ |„„ ' 'V'l /,"'" f'"" "'" ' -» ;nnn and wid, ,|,e e i „f b ' - '' ' '""'•"'" "'■"'' "'" ''t;:^"', ;'-"'o:.tiotK-^'^-w^ joaf;::!';;;-]:,,,';,'''''™"--"" f-- "•« lifo or ti,o Auswor.-The doath oai.oi/ody. sa Jesus came of Abraham, and was cireumoised, and Abraliam was circumcised for the life of the body, tliouo'Ii the time for death to be destroyed was not tlien come. Jesus had to overcome for the uncircmn- cised, thouo-h he was circumcised for the life of the body. The will of Jesus could not be proved when the law came, because he had to come to die, and it is one year after his death that tlie will is to be proved. Tliose that are uncirenmcised in the flesh are only p-rafted into Ciirist. Wiiat is a child cir- cumcised in the flesh for upon tlie eiofhth day ? It is for the life of the natural hody. But what, alas I Jesus had to die to bear the lik(?ness of the whole seed of Adam ; first ho had to die to bear the likeness of the anf^els, which ho shewed in his resurrection. After- wards he shewed Christ <>'rafted into him, which is the immortal life of the mortal hody. Tlie 8ij>n was ""iven to John, "Upon whom tliou shalt see the Spirit do- scendinof nnd remainiiif^ on, the same is ho which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost." John i. i]S. Did it not dcsce!id in the likeness of a dovo upon him? (Matt. iii. 1(5.) That is that imtnortal dove whicii will and shall brin<>' immortal life to the hoiipo of Israel, which dwelt in the body of Jesus; and when the house of Israel have beconu3 as tlie body of Jesus was, then it will bo }>'rafted into them. Hehold, now Jew and Gentile sit to«>(^ther in ])arlian)ent! tio- meml)er one yoiw is to ])r()vo tho will of .lesii^^, which is two thousand years, and that is tho time that tho will will he ])roved. When the hoiiJ^o of Israel aro cleansed, and Chrinit is {rrafted into them, tlnit is that happy day. Then is tinu'o no profit iii circumcision, says that oracle, which is tho immortal Spirit t-hrist? I'aul spoke of circumciijion in both ways. If tlM\v wore circum- cised, and abode in ('hrist till ho tihode in th(Mn, that is for the life of the body, for it to become ati iuiinor- tal Ijoilv^ nnd. if thev onh' nl>odn in ChriMt it was only fur the life of tho soul. Thii is the doctrine I am 64 to preach at all places wherever T cm a prenelur,. i, then to cease when iTetur/f^ T^ "^l ng-nin. ""t?u x leiurn to J^ng-Iand M.ll MeUourne Hon.. Wrcnaorpe, near WaLfm, iiSt/i of 4th mouthy 1859. n«nt witl,out wen •;,' h ' '" ' """, ''«, *"'"' "'^ cove- l»-".M an.l ei;.,l,i,;:' V e ; ' .''•"'"l'. '"'" '" we,,,- h\, '"k« it; n,Kl if his ,,L''' •"''"'','!""' ''«"'""»t ... j_ J l'H„c,jml,t,es aua powurs." Titus ^^Inauir, of Ma,.k Walton, „f Newcharol,, „„J «„- l*" "'ml, to wl„mil ,?''"'' ' '" "•'"■•'' "'• '•■"."0 it to AMs«'e,v • ll '^'""l'l""it to l,„ laid r tl'» l">v of V\mT\T'\ '"""'": '' "'"T »ot, it i8 I...J Co, „n ,,;/'„,"'"•'•" ""7 '"v« tl,„ J„„., "'"''''mo,,.;,.,..;:;';:l.^;;'7;,'/[:«,'-v- a,,,i ,;o,... w-iu're roadi..^, «,">d'it is"„„ brn;:,i,"i;:.".."-..,"":^ Ty ey no broaoli only yihw tl 66 cannot read them, or have not the means to purchase them. This is only required of covenanted members to g'o to read to the sick. Inquiry of Mary Bates, of Pailton, and answer. " 1 wish to know if it is required for each member to sijrn afresh to the last signing paper, or is it for uew comers in ?" Answer. — It is only for those to sign who come in as fresh members. Inquiry received from Susannah Head, of Ashton, witli answer. "Is it rio'ht to always put those sheets they take oft' one person's bed on to another before they be washed r I send this inquiry, though I feel reluctant in eo doing, as I think we have sufficient in the laws sent, but there are some that cannot hear unless by epecial message. Answer. — They fulfil tho words of Jesus, "They stumble at a gnat, and swallow a camel." JN'eilhor will they seek to take tho mote out of their own eye, tliat they might take tho beam out of another meuj- ber's. And for one nieinber going to sleep at anoth<>r ineniber'rt Iiouho, there is no such coniniamls; neither is there a cominntid (hat n nuMuher should go to nnother meuiber's houno to view their linen, wliolher they require washing, but if (heir inward par(8 con- demn them, let (hem wanh their linen. Does not the spirit ol' man (ell him that he is to keep his own temple clean, not look al*(er tho affairs of another ? It is tho H«>irit of man that bourM thg bodv. i ''.■■{ i I fi6 1<-Te/ '<^^„^,tnt/ '■''''^".■' *° ^'-'J a« Door. «" il.o Gui.lo" & ' t i'lr'-'''//" !'■"« » pared of if . Moses Tiil' nWwl is ,T„ ^"".'■l^^^l'O''^- Tl.e.e sliire." ' ""° " "'""e, IS over LiucoJn- ««'ordi„o- ,0 (|,e 1, 1 Tl f i-"'" ?' """"'«'• ■nemi.e'l. •^e «o.t o"„„ wL^Xe'!:! tlfof Sf "--' (Signed) j;^_ J. ^^th Of 4:th month, 1859. gnoSt" .^.'i''"^--^'' I "■» -ved upon to p,. a "'"' tlij seed .W.er tl, ,0 i . "'" '"" "'"' "'««> "jV/"«l "IU.r .1,00." Ge, Tvi''? "Vi" "7- ""J '0 <"-^ ""e teinff called one 'f he ifuTn^" ?.°' ? ^«"'"''' »"'y "Ot the g-oepel wi h H,n r» ° V'^ '"""' «■"! brini- brother with him ? F"'tt * ''r«^ ""^ y<»"'8-er to Moses in the bpsh aL ''""t^ho gavethe law the woman's seed ^b^m Chf^ '^T'P'^ to JesnT years. And there wH now t'T..'*'^ "P°" ^'"' «'«« not known before "and fZ '^'•««, K*" such as ama^e, and members of „ 7"'''' '''"" «'«n» he do •object to him ? Then 1 ""^ "?{ """^^ «"' made l^ith his Creator? But ^h^o 1°"" t™.""/"'' «'»" spirits, for they were mad« U?'/'.''*'', ^"^ *''e two drawn. Paul IZu^^t "'"^ ""^ "■« ^»" being- ject to vanity, n^t' wiB; ZTT '"" ""^^^ '"^ who hath subjected th.I!^^'- i' by reason of him He did this tCt he *>hT* !," ^T" ^''"- "«• 30. end. And it w 11 bec^l „ t'"- '"^r"^'- » 'he that if a man IZeTuTnU "". '^ •"" P^'-aments, •hall not have power to ^^ n"'," '"' ""«''''t»™' they thus saith the Lotyi rf !•/'"' ?'«» to prison, for »hall be free ^'^^ '^ ''* de'"ers all „p he into a thorn, and then ?h„n '^ "**, "' ""d grafts it thorn into a'thorn, „?„' r„ori^l"r' '"^« "'"! "- 61 one root? "I am tlie vine, ye are the braneheB." John XV. 5. Tliey are branches of the resurrection, branches of the incorruptible. How incorruptible ? Through the fall — through what my father and mother had done, for I am not charged with that till I was forty years old, then I knew no other but the incorruptible fruit, which is forgive me my debts, and I am forgiven day by day. I say in the name of the Lord, and there -are in this room who shall read it, by seeing it published in the newspapers, that if a man delivers all up he shall not go to prison. This shall be a law by being passed in both houses of parliament; and it is a figure of mortal putting on immortality. But if the evil in a man say I have a neighbour who will see me through my difficulties ; he is an honest friend to me, and I will save a little before they come to sell me up. And I then take an heifer, or ploughs and harrows, for him to sell for me. Beihold I do so ; my creditors know not of it. The bailiffs come, and this is cloaked up. By and by I get my debts for- given, and I shall not go to prison. Afterwards I apply to this friend for what I had delivered to him, but instead of delivering them to me he seized me by the throat, and casts me into prison. Even I myself have seen this done in this town, by a man that car- ried his goods to a friend of his ; the laws of the land did not compel him to restore the goods. Behold 1 what saith the Lord. Cursed is that man that trusteth in man as his friend. And the law given by the queen of the land shall not forgive the man who is found a defrauder, for his own in- ward monitor told him he was a defrauder when he carried away the goods, ho trusting in the evil of his own heart, which deceived him. John Gill, I have a question to put unt6 thee. It savs in the Scriptures, " A sproading- vine of low stature, whose branches turned towards him, and the roots thereof were under him, so it became a vine, and brought forth branches, and shot forth sprigs." m I !,1 fzehxvu.6. Wheth nrsfc vine ? Ans 62 was that the latter or the ^ jwer.-l think the first. H^uestion. — Therp nm ♦ • readsofoneof h^h Zn r T"? ^'f''^ «"d *hou stature the first or' fatter "' ''^"'^'' '' ^^^^ ^^^^Sh Answer.-I think the first. . ^"®«^*on-— Read him the versPR Tl iDg- been read, he said I wiH Z /l. ^ '^®.''''« ^«^ thee. The' vine of Jo J sLle w^''^"" «^«^'^ turned towards him and fL . f^ ^^°^® branches l^i«i. Kow thVn'ast the T! '^^'^^ ""''^ "» ^^^ want thj opinion, for 1 ask tlTeeln ^u'^ ^"^^^ «"^ ^ • they not as trees ^fS stP urerV^^ ' . "^''^ him raising the dpn^^^. I. ® ^ ^'^®n tbey saw ions, as hi|h ioL & '^ *'^^^ "^^^ ^^^ their ^opin^ Answer.-— Yes. Question. — Whether was Jesn^ iha • branches turned towards him !/.i® ^'°® ^^^o«e were under him whe?they ^ei r I w' ?''' *^^^^°*^ Answer.— After I.a a.I - , .^""* «" answer. toward, hi„,,f/i;V^:-;\x: "'^ ■''■''■«"'- -™ and lofty one ihe7rT^]JJ'^^y^^ 'jl^ h'fr'' and he shewed it in D«r«h . . i^ '^""^ ""^ '""> "'"e', tal life, b„t thelZhn^lr!"^' '"" Y"? '" '"'» "'O'- "ot grafted in th " o^ of " f Tl'" r""'' ''.1' 'J'« f^™*"' the brnnch, but the vin« l! f i T"" ""* ''o'l n»d » 63 alike, but the cedar tree becomes not a vine. Jew and Gentile are the cedar tree ; they reach up to heaven, climbing* up some other way ; but there is a little branch below their root from that immortal Spirit for all that will receive it, and be partakers of it ; then will God make man higher than Satan and tho evil through that. I rejoice that 1 bear fruit from the vine of low stature, for it is given to me the first ; then why should I boast over thee ? For if the virtue only goes through me, from that immortal Spirit, that it may bear fruit in the whole, what am I more than another ? Question. — Now, Joseph Shaw, I put this straight and close question unto thee, as thou art a grafter of trees. If thou graft a branch of a tree into another stock, and thou take another graft and graft it ft the top of the first graft, has not the sap to pass tlirough both grafts from the root ? Answer. — Yes, it has. Thou hast answered wisely. Christ must be graft- ed into us before we can bear immortal fruit. Now the cedar tree is ruling, man sees not his own blind- ness ; but the house of Israel will have a law that will enclose them, for the call is unto all, Jew and Gentile — to those who are called Gentiles, having surnamed themselves Gentiles, and are not — to de- liver up all, and to come into his Spirit, that he may wash them with clean water, that they may never depart out of his house, for this temporal is but a figure of the spiritual. Written from John Wroe's mouth by Benjamin Eddowes. Melbourne IlousCj Wrenthorpey near Wak^eld, Answer to an inquiry of Hannah Moore, of 'i IIU Jjl 64 StMey, respecting, breaking the covenant a second which is\SofGhr^r^^^ upon them, they break it ThJ« fn k • .^'?^ "^^"^ ^^^® v^«'«n places. ^^''' *° ^" P^^^^^d and sent to all (Signed) J. A. J. A^hton, Ut of 5th month, 1859. fur - Sabbath hour. words that ,froee"d tZ r ^^T' °'"'° '"««'• 'he God ? The first tin,; T ' ?"?"■ '" *''« ""me of I now staid tiTgirmf v/*"""' ""i^--^ alas! where are a nianv of *?! .*>-°".' '«"^. what, the first time I preaeC »f A''w"^*'"" '■«»>'d ""« tl.e Lord, it is now th» I f ,A«'"?°? Thus eaith here: n.; words «-.. n *"5^ ^ ^''^U ««an>"' pronounced „po„7he bod';' .W'^'i.'' '° ""^ -test thereof thou shXsurei; t''Zn1A7 ■Ihat day is one thousand years If d»„»K\ ^'• nouneed upon man whon »,„ • i " "eath be pro- into a good tr"e" Tf i^ 'I ''°™' " l"* P'anted bears, ^f hey abide notin t'l^"' -""^ °^ ^'"" ^e bein, Irafte^d "uLd^ tC^^ ^f th^rho^f;^ ■!;'l 1 65 dies, but the soul is saved, and the body receives the curse. That pronounced upon Adam, "Cursed is the ground lor thy sake." Gen. iii. 17. That is for the sake of the soul, for the soul is the life of the shell which is preserved by receiving of the fatness of the root. He abides in repentance day by day in the mortal life. What remedy is there for man, death beino' pronounced upon his body, which moulders away in the grave ? What says the law—the law of life, on this wise. "We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God." John xix. 7. We find the woman's seed, Jesus, called himself the Son of God, and was condemned by the people for calling- himself tiie Son of God. The Hebrews said, "For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy: and because that thou, beinc^ a man, niakest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said. Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken." John x. ;3.'J — 35. That word is the Son of God. The Jews were grafted into their church by the command given unto them of the sacrifice of the animal. The first and second son of Adam did sacrifice, the first brought the sacrifice of the fruit of the ground, the second brought of the firstling of his flock of the animal for a blessiuf? upon the soul, the other brought forth bread and wine, which was accepted for one thousand years. Now it is the Jews by circumcision, and the Gen- tiles by baptism, but these will bring them to cor- ruption , for are not the Jews with the sacrifice of the animal, and the Gentiles with baptism, grafted together in the Lord, the one by the gospel, the other b/the Old Te.-»tament? ' But what, alas! they are gathering' as the difFer- m «6 ^;' fca:t,„^f -»' ^-."H but are k„ow„ tlj( l»"et, frive timu.selves „■ „,f „ ""?"' "■"""' "'3 '•e grafted to one ma, W, ''""%""•:>' '""' '^ey 'e Son of man, wircnmeTo 1 «•'''']•• ^^"' ^lu-ist, , What says tl e 'ittnZ, * .'^'' *"'■ ""^'■'- ""'• t,l>e sentence of deatr V ? ."" ^^T'''"' '" '""'«■• -'i cannot boar le vine." John t-«ed.in .he ■J.nCio'"'' A^, l^'^.f";-. f >•«.'- t'le vine appears at dm fl„l» "' "^ides not u noeonnt ot'tl,e dee L uJ'^ >;«urrection to give „„ [!''■«, ll.e soul li,„;;?,, "'•,■^"'1 "'"";!l; i "i" iilivo livo also." John ,w. W "r! 7""" V'^"'3« "''ail ^|.;'',^od„,heeauJi,o'r';;'tht:'^i'z """ " '"/ *3 "iaae to live, ijufc or does tlint spirit come to a dead body ? No, it is to a livins(» are our gods ! God is a Spirit, and when he 18 grafted into them can tlu«y n'O corruption? Death will then be under their feet, that Bonteiice which was pa^ed upon Adam, for a greater work will ho ^vorUed in them than was workud in Jesus. \\ hen that Spirit had hd't him, and ho was as man, did ho then bear malice? What did ho iav unto Pilate. " 1 hou couldest have no power at all against me, except it was given thee from above." John xi\. U. I'hon bo was iu «• sin if™"' 68 manhood. Christ had left fniitofCI,ri..tifye abide in tl nnto his children for lira, and ye shall beai »e covenant, for it ig ever. No man can t.-.ke tl . 1 J. I' ^Tui. j.^o man fm U» «, ...U ,,,. ,.„, „, ,,„„ ~ j/™- '.T. James Farrand,Ih Tl 'ijsin theScrij)tui_, ...., ,„ „,y em sa.th the Lord; My spirit that It til and ]Jot d ihy Beed, nor out of the moi.tl I. Jix. '21. W aveannestion to pnt unto t? lee. |'»J words which I have put in thv „ part out of thy mouth, nor out of tl «»a IS niy covenant with is upon thee, e put m thy mouth, shall >e mouth of 1 of thy seed's seed." ^f;uestion. — Is Answer. — Yes Quest io w how many seeds orence of these seeds ? . -lie all pure, I should sav. lon.-Is not the first seed of Jesus? »•— '"'jat is the first, hut it J- -- - ..i.v JO »foh, and has Jio-hted comparison. Jfdhrist immortal iVuit, mid ye (Fo'Vl was proved to J'P"" iHrael. I will make a « p'altcd into you, ye heap esus, second it is ve, third it ho makes that tl >( ' t'i^vd of Christ ahid 10 work. Firnt it is is your children; and venant with three seeds. And if will nnd it shall ho d ''in 30U, ye shall unk what ve "•ayer that iinmorlal S :*"*'. ""^» .you. That is that an » no more than a hranch of tl pint teaches you, and me, f <»r '0 tree. l{ut has i' ::•;;./''! r,-"'^ '"•"'-.''" "-; ^.t ;r' •'''':;;; Jioino" to loreiui, nations. h..f l.,..,^ .1. •. . ^ "''* tU.y «..« bouud to ,,roteet me. WU^a lurl' l/ocZ' -- f ^mI 69 God has caused me to keep them. But if I suffer myself to be overcome, am I not then a prisoner, and bound to suffer, and am kept? Now, when I am at a body of people, I am commanded to have the laws read. Upon law xi. of the First Book of the Laws of God beinf^f read, John Wroe said to dames Farraiid, I want an answer from thee, trusting- thou hast that immortal Spirit with thee. Who is that proj)liet in that law? Is not the pro|)het in every man? 'I'liere is the law of the immortal ])rophet, and is not that against the evil in man, which shall die? Answer. — Yes. In the Scripture, in Daniel, it says, " Nevertheless leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass." Dan. iv. LTi. Now the roots are left in the earth till they have rooted up that straiig-o root, which is the root of the evil, which is to bo rooted out of the vine ; for if ye be {^rafted into the vine, and it then be orafted into vou, then all evil will be under your feet. But it'yo bo grafted into the evil, then are ye uiuler (he devil and death.. When evil is destroyed, then will all nations be g'lad in the Lord Jesus Clirinf, who is tbo living vine, who beforo had to die for the incorru[)ti- ble. (yiirist jj;rafted into man bears death, but there is another j>raft to j»'rjift life into the body of man, and he that has the life of the body has the life of the soul also. JJut there are two vines, one bears Jil'e, and the other is under death. Upon law 5 and (I beino- read. Second Ihxdv of tho Laws of Ciod, concerning' every man beinu- circuni- ciced, and tho fat that covereth tho inwards beinjy taken away, he . aid the carcase was to be meat tor them J this hag been a llyure of that which cam© after. Jesus said, " Except yo eat of the llesh of the Son of nuin, and drluk his blood, yu huvu no liiu John vi. 5i]. >'' ThtiHu aro tho worda of tho Lord Jesus Christ ia ^jr^ 1 ii! ! Ii!h lii I >« ill I ^ "tf ft J if 70 hh mortal life, before his blood wa8 taken awaj from avvnv, and be- nscYcnse to fake the root of tie evil -ore that can bo taken a'vnv . •'• ' — «"d drink his hlood ilo ' { '' '^'"'"^^ "'''^ '""^ «^'^^'» tl.enMvord. nntoule Jeo X '' ^'^"^"^-^^^^ to utt^r Whnt a secret and tell it my errand? If J ""> I if I do not d i^ot, and dnrst omyerrnnd-iflenrrv "ft lell it, what "'■I'-'-iv en.] ub^tt'v.:,:,?"';;.',^ ■'"'"''-' bad hette liiorfal hirti '• "ever have been born of '"^^ Ahis! alas! ahus'' IS an Tl 'lliw r?., ?"" "^3^ f''''''^"'^ nnd I be a woman by a It is "»i, (henlmn..tdie,and.. ,^ , I'Mve often watered my body will ^nnts ot luy own bod ovvn body have not d no nse niv ooiu not Pent of (V. ';jown body. Then if the^f \ tears throiiol, f) 10 those of oil one rio-ht^ ^vhat f iil( 'er reliM-iona? Yq rn J '", bnt that Spint will »'Uils of n>y say to can I niay g.jy all hav not al)ide where tl aw and oosnel e lore 13 ""'«•. ify,.|.en,.,,n«li„l,y ,1,0 1 mvu two "inrta Tl„, ir r ■ , «i- • ■""'''' ""J '"•« g'-^'fteJ by timt into a I tl pel V0 JO woninn'a seed And they wl ^'•^ liis immortal lit '« 'ii*e o-rnfted a second « Js ^-rafted into tl time, as J cans r;:!-^'ir»-';'^»i^::r;i:i;;jr;i,„^!;;-? bod one shepherd ; I fb'sl "'"' the life of the law is tl 10 o of tl ospel } htyuuo they are of him tl ' ""' *'''"'^ ''i'* hlood,deatl iG mortal one i\,U\, t'y eat his l';.;». nn,., ,,..,,,„.;;;--;;-;; ■'■•--Mw,. bod^ JK'lor(» ("iod I y too-otl,,.,', then ye n "It' tiod bronoht, mn l>t' the head place at I bod What! 8( awtofall. '"••t^'Mhe book for fon »» of (ho sonl and ;ny say are only some saved? iia should '•«''t me forth it was said, tl y who have oiven (1 iiK^ hnild I' men of Ashton J MO' '« J'nt a fioiiro(d"tl '« n«08t to the bnildino. f or -ti,oro„..pi,,:;-;7l,^r,j:;:';::!,",'j'';"''if'-i liiw wljoie should Im in.J,..^ i i "..'■"=''' "* it'moj, nini quarter, of th " JlanVt" "^ ^ *""'' ""^" '"'' ^''» '"»' 71 I have been delnyed from go'mcr abroad because the pillara lor the fourth lodg"e could not be set up, for it came on another man's ground. Every man must either build upon God's ground or Satan's ground. Now I am commnnded to go, Satan lias stepped in and delayed it. But we are not to builil upon another man's ground, ^vhicll is another man's o|)in- ion, but follow that inward monitor. Tlie hnv of the land would have pulled them down; a female Inid had the ground, which had been in the name for four hundred years, the writings told it. The woman died, and it came into the hands of a lawyer, who came and viewed it, and said this should belong to the property joining it, but he kept it to hinjself. One day i was going to Wakefield, and met a gentlenwui conn"ng up the road. He said, "Mr. Wroo, 1 am going to your house." 1 said are you not going to Ardsley ? Ho said 1 must go to your house first, and then he sold mo the land, we not having njany words about it. I then made all haste to get the posts up, hut tho gntes are not up, SatJin having interfered, and the workmen delayed, yet I am uj)on my jom'iu>y. And this is the first ])Iiice 1 went to gather, both temporal and sj)iritual. And there has been a light in it for the p«'ople to get the salvation of the soul, and now for tho ledcmption of the body, and this is the last time I shall preach in this land England, after this day. Jlnt where is my end if I am not a doer of tho words 1 liring unto you? that 1 nwiy always abide in that Spirit, that 1 may bring the words to you and unto me, for they uro meat for all, and there is but one dish. When a nobleman makes a feast there is a num- b(M' of dishes of various names, and they who aro ifsiiug being glai'tGd into tiio vine, are of various names, differing as the flowers of the fields, and tiio herbs of tho vailey ; this is for the salvation of the 1% I I I 'I' I'M ^Q sou]. But tl Jose for tl »H.«e .-.U e.t ont of one ,1, l! (7'"'" "*."'« ''"^V M ti • Jol.n xix. 4. ^ ^''"^ ^ ^^"^^ "« i""lt in inn,." "J mil iiinoront of the l,]„o,l ^f ih' • . see yo lo it." Malt. xxZ ii *'"' J"'' I^^^'^""- <''<•!'• ovj], ,uid then (ii.J Cimm f I ^^^^^'^Vf^nhmr m i • '' *S B K ^«»«»fe'Wii4ISift>iwsiB«>-k 73 by the jrood? And it asks every one here whether the law*" of the land tal^es them prisoner whom it huth not condemned? The Jews called themselves the seed of Abraham, and said, "We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondao-e to any mar : how 8ayet»t tbou, ye shall be free." John viii. Ji3. They believed they were not scattered amonp^ the uncleanness of the woman. " Jesus said unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham." John viii. J3\). Abram's name waschanoer to Abraham, and when n»an has that immortal Spirit g^ralted into him, he will be the Israel of God. Ai»d ye will not hear me rail when the fruits of my own body has done the same works. First offering was the fruits, and the second the animal ; ana then if a man took another man's life his own was to be taken. Now what the Lord has g'iven me I have delivered luito you ; and if you do not find them wei«rht and measure by the sciiles, cast them from you, tljat the tire may bui-n and destroy it, for what is Melbourne House to me ? It is nothin}]^ more than as the drops that fall from the clouds, which the jvromid receives. I am j;*oin^ away in the name of God, that he may teach \m7 both by t-ea and by land, by day and by nif^'-ht, and keep my mouth as with a bridle whilst 1 am amono-st the uiioodly. Tiiere is a prayer };iven for you and tor me ; and remember the (|uek*tion put to Joseph Shaw about the laws, fur if the laws be written upon your hearts nn.l minds, what do you want with the letter. 1 ho Hebrews had tiiem written that their chihlron mi^ht see them, for they are the seed of his seed, and it wo abide in the law "it is written upon our hearts. And thouoh a man cannot read the laws, if he iieai-s tlumi theirtiiey may be written upon his heart j that within is before that without. What is tlie law am 1 g'osp" '1 unl ess 1 t b written iip(m the inward parts ot man And when I stand before the public 1 am to shew the branch, for the te ?4 ki"S-«, and £or.i 'n" *;'' '^IdS,:''," '^ "'« f'".- of Book to „,e, which i« , ;e W 1„ Hh!"'"''';'' "'^ sloriHe.. Pi ae fo" f, tT ^,^T ''« J-^^ifies and yet he WAS T> to "at h ■■". """''""'"ed hi.,., ti.e Son of Go ,1 l2 I I •"' r ''" """«'' '"''"'elf wl.ich is a. the ti.-e o t le e ,t nrfo,.'!,"";" ? «'''"^ 0"t the e„„.ine, ,et the st^en Tl o'/ e fl",. SI H "■"•''■ -i,.e'.,,esh,inctrt\rS;;^;: t? "'-^"'."^ do they want with a pi^eacher' ""™' "'"" t..oi'7;;tir.,.ZdeS':e'"tr ;iat''r '■--r - ™...edv would teha™ h I*""!?" T"^' "''«' wi.t ^„,ra the..o a..e .1^'" ■•'"'""^ K^ "- - ""'ee nnd all >.'l io *^^-i,t;,!. l"i';'''' H^ ^''"^ " ''"("..o uo, U..t the lH,;e of d h 1 1" /'""•:'■^"" tl.o liehi: notr.,,,tho.„:!,';\:;;;;,V!;;;!;^;'''''-.w'-'-> Eddowlr "■"'" •'"''" ^^''-"^ "'»"*'■ by Benjamin 76 Newchurch, Meeting Boom, (Sth of 5th month, 1859. There is a command that ye worship not with imatres of silver or gold, or auythino- with the liUe- ness'of earthly kincrs on, in your pockets or on your raiments in the sabbath hour. What is the nieaiiiuf? of the valleys risin^r and the hills lowerincr? it is the evil in man, and those that are lotty he will brino' down. - a. ax I have been made the instrument to appoint oth- cers, and I appointed the judge and judjress ot this body. But the members say John Wroe appointed them, and they are not chosen of God. ^ . , ^ ^^ But thus saith the Lord, they shall hold office no lonoer, but fresh officers be chosen by bal ot. Ye shall have your own way touchino. those who shall rei"or .i !: to death .'.lesus said he came that the blind miobJ m|e, and they who said they saw mio-ht be ma lo blind, then tl,ey recollect when it is too^lato. C if .swruton upon my heart do I not do i ? Ko r there are two seeds, who sowed the first seed the Imar '' '"""'' "'" ""^ '"""' "'"' "'^ ">»"- Question.--Wlm planted the first seed ? ( Zlor \v'l "'"■'■'' ■''•" /'■■"' "^"-"^ '" ""-■ "■'•"'""• S'lu'srion. — \v ho sowed it? Answer.— Sat an. yue«tioiJ. -Now thou haat answered widely. Satan 77 There are the two seeds. sowed it in man and woman. , ., t . n Jesus said ye are of your father the devil, but Goa sowed seed in the Viro-in Mary, and she conceived. Now was not tliat seed the Son oi Cxod .' Answer. — Yes, Jesus. Question.-Now he says I will sow the house. ot Israel with the seed of man. W ho is that seed? Answer.— The seed of that man is the seed ot Que'stion.— Then thou must be sowed with that by behio. puriiied by the four books ot Moses, and the four" books of the Evangelists by thy immortal Father, that it be within thee. Jesus is the immor- tal to sow that seed. Hast thou not sio'ned hand a!id heart to become as the Son of God, but what art thou now '? Answer.— Son of Satan. Q„^fPn,1 Question.-Then if thou be born of the Son ot God, havincr his seed within thee, wilt thou not then be 1 ' 1 7 "" 'now I have a charjre unto thee in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, for the whole twelve tribes as thou art a trustee. If a man is chosen to «n office by ballot, whether is that man chosen by God oi Satan to that office, they havino- voted according to the dictates of their own heart ? Answer.— Chosen by Satan. Ouestion.-If they have sioned to the living God, and God has picked them to that office by them, has not God cliosen him? Answer. — Yes. , ., , Question.— Now thou can answer wlieu the words are nut into thy mouth. e n \ Now I (.peak this unto thee in ho name of Go, , with my head covered, and these keys in my hand Tliat all may hear tell of it, and read it. ll.ou has hoen in thy stewardship like a man upon a sea lo ", . •' - „ „„„1 „U vonilv to be launehed into eternity. But where one is chosen 0*,^°^° "" otfioo, and there be unbelief m any one, will that not ii ''in 78 say in them that they are not chosen of Gn^ 7 t. • that evil in them tliat savs it Tl„7-P?f • ^^ ^^ by ti.e dictates of iSUrt ?"^t '^^^^ «''^. «''osen chosen by John Wrop or- \ ' *''f^' '''^ ^'^^J a^-e tliej ai/chos by Xiro/nT"^ ^ f ^'"'r^ ^"•- ^^* no cJoak. I am . In f' i^^"'^'^ ^'^^» ^''^J ''^ve fast, but Jet us 1^1 n T *^^°'' ^'^'^^ stand sted- made irnniortal. ^ '"' ^'''''' ^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ temple '-fill's house bnildino- ;■ nnt •,,„* £ • . , temporal or snirituT v J V j ^^* An's'ied, neither and may l,e ZTthL^Pt '"^'^ '"^ "'"" **"'»'' it ; the lifeV it-tt ' ! t^K*'"" "'«^SP'>it "lay be am no niore\h:l;1„'„\,r^,„tr t'l In"^" ^ weret'„V|i't":htrT '''''" ^"' ,""^ f""' P-*« look bad, Litlfe^tell^ra =,;„'; ' 7"'^"°' God says he wMl «:,"': 'ZT Tl 'fi '?-, bone flelrof hif /e h":!^ eThir sT" "T "' V' dead shall see their children aLe '^'"'' '^"'" *''^ Via not Thomas sav. Unleaa T =„„ «een and vet hivl hew'" Jdiu x7 '"'.';r^jr ai'e they that see him and beltve" ^^'"' Qzrr-';?bt;rtrv''ir r ■''''■^-• Answer.-The JiW„„ ^' "'" '"'"8^ "'' "'« ^o"''? savs T „'l? .1 u'"''? "'y ''«'"•' ""d mind. The Lord When 1 came forth at first lor throe yoaTs I was 79 pnt to work in the ship, and I rejoice in tbat one immortal Spirit that I had to work hard at the ropes. , r T 1 J When I came forth to the hoi'se of Israel, and heard of circumcision, I said . iit ii.v .lead off at once, for I never can submit to i . Afterwards I was brouoht forth, and it was nite-v. ds performed in the midst of a laroe multitu )e of \)eop\e. Every male can be a circ'-i . sor if he has confi- dence in God. But if he has not confidence in him- self how can he have any in God ? He must have three men to prove that he is qualified, and have seen others done. If he has not confidence, and any- thinjr happens, then he will be under the penalty of the Taw of the land in which he may be in. Now, John Bishop, I want God to enlio-hten thee, that thou may enlighten the people, for it must be proved by three men, to prove they are qualified, tor that is the command, if they have not confidence in God. , TT- T I When it was revealed that Henry Lees was to circumcise me, he was made afraid by William Twiocr, whose name is mentioned in tlie writings. HeniT Lees went to Liverpool, saw a Jew, a rabbi, and saw what was commanded to be done by hmi to John Wroe was accordiiijr to the law of the Hebrews, beino- both alike. He then said I will not fear, but do it Now he has fallen from the work, yet his wife is as firm as ever, but throuo-h the fashions ot the world she is not amonjr us, yet she believes the work is rioht, and that it is of God. Then wliat is it if God makes me do it? 1 can- not do it without him. Bat if he command me, and I do it not, an untimely birth is better tor me. But I hope I have come for a blessinjr, and not tor a curse— with an holy kiss, not outwardly, but inward- ly, which man and Satan cannot wipe away. Now .Ipsuk said. "I can of mine own se_lt do nothing; my Father does the work in me." Now it thou hast Christ the Father grafted into thee, will : if \ I! •< 'id nii idi 80 he not do the work in tljee ? Dost thou understand nie ? Answer. — 1 do. Question. — What is the rejoicino' wilh the out- ward eye, and the inward eye astray; this is (hjne with some in the covenant, hut thouoh tliey do these thnio-8, if thev suhniit, and lie is planted into them, does not his seed remain in them ! Do not a many see thino-e actually done, both in shape and form, yet be only m a dream? Jjut wlien he is phmted into them, will not Paul's words be fulfilled in them, Mhen sliall I know even as also I am known ?" i Cor. xiii. 12. IJast thou not been as thouoh thou hast done thinos, and yet only dreamed ? " Answer.— Yes. I have my natural eye, and the inward eye. The (Tcntiles say they see (Jod, but have thev this faith? And It IS for me to take care lest I be rooted up— lest I should lose myself. Dut if he be ft-rafted into me I shall i»ut on immortalitv, and this is my first mid last sayincr, we are one's apiece, and the one hundred and lorty-four thousand grafted to him are but ono vine, dweilin;r i„ the (Godhead. Did not Jesus say unto the disciples, And will ye also jro away? And they said. Whither shall we g'o, seeimr thou hast the words of eternal life? Then why slioiild yo i\mv about so many prophets ? It ye believe (lod has not chosen me, throw me aside, mid oo to another. 1 am come to brinjr ponce, and' bring- the laws rtf the four books of JMos^n, and the four books of the Evanoelists, and whether 1 put on innnoHality or not, those who join and keep them will, tor they are to gather the people. [A friend said hu would to God the seven nations Were gathered. | Have y(? not heard they nball hear upon the mnnn- tain? That mountnin is IMount /ion, which is a mountain to the incorruptible church they cannot «eo It, but Isrnol will ap,. ..Il ...«..:..,. *i it down, and the valliea riao ^ when the proud man and 81 lofty man of Satan is brought down under Israel's feet; then ''0 death, where is thy stini?? grave, where is thy victory ?" " Because I live, ye shall live also." Thomas Mort, of HudJersflelJ, wanted to read me the woman's writin^rs ; but what does a man who is a prophet want with another's writing's?— what does he want with either Bible or Testament that is for others ? I am only like yourselves, I am only the first branch ; and if any have seen me do thinj^s con- trary to what I bring-, then condemn me, but con- sider me with the feelings of a man, and do not iniaoine I am any more tlian a branch of the tree. Act'' with John Wroe according to what he has brought forth. . Question.— Would it be faith in God it it was faith in J ohn Wroe ? Answer. — No. Thou hast answered wisely ; then have your laitli in God, not in John Wroe. Now I ask thee this question. Jesus was without sin; did God do more for Jesus than he will do for the house of Israel, for wlien ho has taken sin away from them will it not bo proved ? ^iig^or.— Yes, did more for tlio house of Israel. Then it will fulfil Jesus' parable, " Lo, these many years do I servo thee, neither transgressod 1 at any time thy commnndmont: and yet thou never Gfavest mo a kid, that I might miiko merry with my friends : But as Foon as this thy son was come, which luitU devoured thy living with harlots, thou has killed ior him the fatted calf. And he said unto iiim, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that 1 have la thino. Luke XV. 2l>- yi. Ho was brought forib after four thousand years, but the house of Israel are alter two thousand years are up; audit is like a sand glass, nearly run out for the house of Israel. Jnsus «nid I ijo to niy Father, bo was tho lather of hisBouI—he'boro the sin that tho man cUargod S ij r-'i ni 82 Wm witli for g-ivino, ,„•„, ,, l-e fruit to eat. l?„t ""vvt T""'"'T^"' S^'<^ ''i™ I've; ana if Go,l ,,ro" L • 1 b.7' "? ^ "!'' i'^ «''«" lor ye ? •* "> "'"' '"e not also do the ennie Joseph was sold for (l,;,.t„ . • asks man what it was \vlX^"""'f °^ ^''''er; this not Joseph say to hL hmUrL"V''' ^°^y^ m to see the nakedness of t e 'T' "''" ''''"'' ""d 'e not teil them (o Lri . '.J ^? "''r'''''^-'" Did lest they eonie in vain r^l'l f'' ^.'i""'^' Benjnnnn, "nmortal Spirit. Were no tl,«' T ^'''"' "*' >''^ of Jiae, el-two flocks of relo *'" *"" "^'''W''^'" -Look at David, who sni.l O A i , I I'f died for ther 1 , ^^'^'"'"."'y'On, wo„M "I'ided down ? Did ,0? "?' *''« ,«»'"« Spi-it been thronoh ,1,0 Join, „f'^,j^^ .^f ;oed of Je^,,^ como llurty years was the i Tt ^,7 ^""^ ."'""""nd years? beloro it was eru, «^ ' .^d 'h,''" ' ''''^"' "'''''''^ M aro tl^ee ffenerulio", ^'"^ *"'' "'•« '^''^^h Solonirhonl" to' tlfe'tZ' oH ' '""" ,""' "'' f''"'" Answer.— About o.n ^^ "*''" ''o"eo'/ to .lesus. "' "'"' """'""'J J-oars from Solomon Question.— Wnsi nr^^ 1 • i beso nro all iij,,„,,,_ Eddowe'r '™'" *'"'"' ^^'-'« >«outL by Benjamin ^<-w York, sm o/M month, 18.50. ji'.MtS:;vt;^^^^ ^-.o «ocie,y. a„d ihvown into fits o« „ '"^^" 'ni/y; sinoe t inf hvwir ,^">v, York in 5,: I^TZJ""'^"'? J"''«-» f tliut LappoB, ii ti,„ «„,;;"J^;7 «« to ao with thea. -<^l*^. this Bid nnd Did 83 Answer. — They can let them remain as a member, but not to enter the meeting's (whether it be males' or females') till the time tliat healing" virtue be given. (Signed) J. A. J. These are the words revealed unto me from that one immortal Spirit. If a member of the Israelite church be called away by death in faith, becoming a martyr for the word of life's sake, then the issue of that male or female so departed shall be restored to that office they depurted in, till the mortal life be swallowed up of imniortnlity. As an exauiple, Mar- garet Bishop, of New York, a native of Scotland, Imving so departed in faith, tlio Lord restores her daughter to her mother's office, ns long as she con- tinue so doing, till her mortal life bo swallowed up in immortality. (Signed) J. A. J. New York, 2M o/Qth mouthy 1850. Answers to inquiries of Thomas Wesson, of Quiney, United States of America. l,^i,.^t. —Whether it would be lawful forme to per- form circumcision, not having been proved by a com- mittee, although 1 have BC u 't performed several tinien, and feef myself competenl ^o perform it? Answer.-- Iftliou feels to Inivo eouli.h nee in tliy- gelf in (hat one immori ^ Spirit, whieh is (Jod, then thou can perforin it. ilien thou art proved of (lod, ns Daniel was nrovid of («od when ho was thrown into the lion's dun: though he break the laws of his counlry, oven the king's law, which was according to the Medos and Porsiuns, which was not to bo altered. i r 84 parts of my bodv I wl T i^'"''''"? "' J'tt'-^rent ifd to n.4ve -what I mil .)„ ri '^'' ^^""'^ "'« tl'is disease ? "" "^^ '" ''^ made free of b«ui:;:ei~o'i!n.itx''"" ""',"""- *'-f-e come thronol. tl,y P-S i n„d[f Tt f' •■" V"' thy progon tors, tl oil ,„,,»V'-. J' 'Prms- from loalin. %,vor be dv^ from" , ""''""""f "" *''« wemborin Zion roeeh-o f °r;f!'?r"i ''"" «^^'T same, tl„.,, will bn r.",r "),*•' .' confesses to ll,e law of the Son of Uod « , f ''"' *',*-' """'' "'«" "'e Christ. ^ "'"'" '''c" t''o<-', which is i„ <'»'», ho ]repared*I must j»o to tho place Appointed for me. Those of the common nalvation are ju-epared to jjo to their place. But tho Oum- fortor is to come unto tho liviiijj:. - - , - Then whv murmur after the dead, houso of Iirael, for tlioy have only a part g:iven unto them I S6 but one „ropl,et-J„o el.e^U^^d," f,, ,, ''"' ""^''^ " no more timn 'a b ' ,d' 'f T ' "' ",'°."'"^' ^ ^ «»» till Christ beV,Xd „to n e Tp ^"r" ''" .^'"■"' tlie liorn to «>„.., f.if" ^'"'" -I "m but na propl.el '^''"''' ^"' *''"' ^'-^r'"'! breath is the it .^nL' tll'rtit'lt 7 ,' ';r^^ "-r '-^' -"^ !"*r in thi, io,Mt!; he ",,•:'■;' /;;;''; "r ^t-''- '" Australia it will |,e I „ -n',, r 7,'"-*" ^ "™ there, then I shall nl.l '""*' ^ ''ave been blow thro,.,. h(w\l„"„ '"'tbo horns for him to nna ho will li'no mL o '! "',' '"""'' "'^ ""^b, " the serp nt i"°hn n IV^ °."'« '""••"'y, whieh' overc,,n,„ ,n„„ in tr^I „n"" J,nt 't Zu ""^' brtit;^; :,' tzr'tr'' •"" -" .--.a'/it,::: 'V't the truth ,v th h : h , tsai I "T'l '"''■'""' ''° '"'^ tbn.u,h the '..:„;;::,„ „''■;,, '^ ->>';-* ,» I'raol's o.x«,nph., C.r whon h" l„ ,; I ,[" '"" " oration ho ,.(,eeiv.,l (ho re v r, T •'"'.'•'^•■n- be "ball recoive all th: ;;;;i';^i\r';:r. ,:.';!:' 87 aisG, which he shall give them, and they shall dwell with him. i ii Then is not that greater than father and mother, wife, house, land, or silver and f>'old ? What are these to any man if he loses his body ? Bat it he loses not the laith of the spirit, soul, and body, thouoh they are by death separated, will they not possess it in their chiklren? So that God is just to all throuii-h the seed of the woman being given, there are our children living. It says in the Seripturos, " For the grave cannot praise thee, death cannot celebrate thee; they that po down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth, ihe livino-, the living, he shall praise thee as I do this day Tthe father to the children shall make known thy truth." Isa. xxxviii. 18, 10. Paradise is restored back to them, they have not lost their bodies, but have gained the promise; then man has run the race, gaining it by that^one immor- tal Spirit. Then be grafted by it. If I be gratted into it I am called after it for the salvation ot the soul, but the body must bo grafted again into hia living body for it to live. Then be not nnbelieviug-be not as Thomas, who eaid, "Except 1 shall see in his hands the print ot the nails, and put my linger into the print ot the nails, and thrust mv hand into bis side, i will not believe." dohn xx. 1*5. Afterwards, when he saw him, and knew him, ho said, " My Lord and my dod. Jesus said unto him, Thomas, because thou luist seen me, thou hast believed; blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." John xx. i»l). Then who is that blessing to ? Tiio house ot Israel when they have put on immortality; then will tho hi.rh and tho lofty one be brought down to the vallov of^Jchoshaphat, 'for tho h)fty mountains are to lall, and llie vallies rise, then will paradiso bo restored hack to maidvind. , , , . n Then why inquire after tho dead, seeing they are dead. Then lut'iuo aud you rejoico that w» uavo om iB fi' i^ '"M 1(^ It . > 1 1 88 for our example, one who is our captain, who will separate the sheep from the goats. TheCt ilof the clcau beast, yet is but for the salvation of tl?e soul ; and the other are the sheep of his pasture «nto whom he says, "I am alive for evennoi^ and have overcome death." Kev. i. 18 ' So a j^realer work will he do by you than he ^vrouo.h by onr Lord. That graft is Ireate than nn^ parhau,e„t, for it is of that one imL."! w" It .s the s-ratt ot the Kino- of king-s, and is the rule^ of all nations. Then shall I not rejoice if I be Ibmul fa.thlul to the word? Then I shall no be a t a m^ Sressor, but a true n,an, and stand, bein;. found with truth before God and man, and this bod^will not ee corruption. But if I only be grafted into C Ir st 1 en tins body ,s cursed for the ^.ke of the soul but hat IS no the hkeness of paradise restored, which" when no death shall be found Then rejoice that he has brouoht me nnto you, for ho says he will },„e me no rest day nor ni""'".f. ^^^J "\ ^ distance? But will he not do this which he has revealed' The disciples not believing, and only know ng of his mortal body, said, "But we trusted that H had been he which should have redeemed Israel; and besides all this, to day is the third since these things were done. And he said unto them, Cse are the words which I spake v'to you, while I was vet with you, that all things must be fulfil ed which werrwriiten in the law of Moses, and ... the prophets, and in the I'salms, concerning me. Luke "ThisVsthe third day when he will redeem Israel, for Israel rejected him then, but he was then the seed sown in-'the earth, for he had then to die but 1,0 is .Z comi..g to the living, who shall pra.se lum, for the dead earth cannot praise h.m. , , „«m Then what are the sufferings ot th.s world oom- par edwiTh that glory ^ Paul sa d, ' 1;'- wo kn^w „ part,a..d wo prophesy m part. "?' '^^^P 3 which is perfect is oo.no, then that w h.ch is m pait tlii.ll be done away." 1 Oor. xi... U, i"- , ^''tL world say'whcre are the --^ P-j; "'.^^J they. k..ow not the way.to j'je, J^^^^" -fj::;! s:'^BToU■^al^y^wl-■-" »»-" ^"^ y"»' f I liH! 11 'It 1 90 and persecute yon, and shall say all manner of evil ag-auist you falsely, for my sake." Matt. v. 11 Does he not say my people shall be a tried people, }et zealous of good works? False teachers and prophets will arise to try the house of Israel, for hev choose the crooked way because it is ag-reeLble to the honour of the flesh, and it is not of the power ot bod, and of his coming-. Then what are the words of one another, and what can we say unto other relig-ions, for have they not their beloved ? But is there not another beloved, which is Jerusalem above, which those seeking" the soul have forsaken because it belongs unto the body, -bzekiel John, and several of the prophets saw the woman kep back to the last; those of the common salvation call it the Holy Ghost. The four spirits are calling man to hear, that he may dwell u, them root and branch. All these four stand before the Lord of the whole earth, two mortal and tvvo immortal; and he that the Spirit of God is ' gra ted into, the angels of God will minister to him at that day for that day has no ending, it is eternal, and dwelleth in immortality, fulfilling that Scripture Let UP ake man in our image, after our likeness." Lren. 1. J. In my Father's house are many man- sions^; if It were not so I would have told you." John I have been asked whether Satan is upon other planets, but I do not like to lay such inquiries before the Lord about other places and planets-I dare not lay such inq nines before that Immortal Spirit, for it says Physician heal thyself; that is my own body, lor it I do not the work am I not unprofitable, and 18 not an untimely birth better than mine? Then it 18 required of me by the God of the living, that he imiy render the fruit in me, for it is him speaking tlie words tlirough mo, that is to plant them into you, that understanding be given to the heart, for if they who are obedient unto the salvation of t\L «nnl 91 " m who have the boJy aiiJ the soul reioice, and thos* ...." ..».~— -. . ^ reioice it h still as one rejoicing: in immortah. Wn why should one religion rail upon another ? Look at The flowers in the field. . Those who are tor the incorruptible must go to their place before re- demption cU come to the house ot I«™<^1' &''^,^' shall he the peace of the house of Israel ^10.0 my leaving this land America, though war and conten- tion shall he in the man of sin. In the name of God I bid yon farewell after this iourney. But though I leave this land Anierica, {he shepherd shall keep you. And that I may be a branch of the tree, and dwell between the root and branch ! And this is the sign given to the house o Israel of my mission; if I am sent of God be will return me to my own land in peace, and prosper me both temporal and spiritual, saith the Lord. 1 1 i am not sent of God, then I must retun. to my place, dust to dust-ashes to ashes, and shall have the sal- vation of the soul, which is a spiritual body. Then if a man rails upon other men's religions he rails upon himself, and he is not. that N'.'^inte unto God ; but if that immortal Spirit be the root and blanch of me it rails not. The Scripture says, "Michael the archangel, when contending with tie devil, durst not bring against bim « , ™!!",'S .f'-^; tion" Judo 9. Daniel calls him, " Miclmo , vom prTnce." Dan. x. 31. Which standcth for the children °* Now 'the visitation is the fruit 1 have brought you, and when I have preached I go ..way upon my inm- sion- and this I have seen in vision, and ye shall be eye Witnesses to the fulfilment. If I ho ot the house of Isi'aol I rail not upon another imin s religion, lest I rail upon myself. 'And if I submit not o the laws of the country, then I am in the power ot man, and not of the Creator, who commands them, even the nobles of the land, and it brings ino to g" "'»■»" tl,c pit, wlioro thov cannot hope lor the trulli, but the living, the living shall praise iheo. ^n^ \■'.•-■-' value nofwha^^ muu laistly, but it I am unjust woe to me Unt T .Cor;h?r, "'"*^^; /^'"^ ■•« *^™n™be'r'o'f Sl;l 'it .^f God ?"""'" °' "'° "•"'' 'f "-y '"'ve .1.0 in a^all Tffi™'" ^"'"•".''f » «"P. I'e snid, This ball Hfrbt.^ri:r[i,:ttr .i ."^^r /"d"r""'"'" "'e tiro caul I, steam 80 does tbe fire ,„ the ,,la„«t, cause the dews fir thl' waters aro as round a hall „f f|,e; (bte t'lh ,.s T nw >„ v,s,on when J w„s first bro .o- It fo . *^,,,,l th t.!-. f""" "7 ?".'"™"-y' "V0''wh..|„u«l Z. " t .„. T. ? '•""''■';' '"""" " '""«bin*r slock un o then. Hnt w„e., I was l„,l hiioj into Itrad ; , yutstioiL-John llish,,,., I want to know if thou •"f^^lflfiBW S 95 bast any more clipped sheep to shew me, and are they Answer.— They are Then they will get mcised anointe for if a man ^et a lot of sheep they may be all shorn or^not, but there are sheen who aro the sheep of the alaughter-house ■*T ow God has umde thee as a s hepherJ, and; I tell thee in the name ot uoa, inou ar. .« f^^,,"'' ^'J,'p' they are clipped or not, eircumc.sed «'! ™ •,'•"' ^de „,av abide in that one immortal Spirit tiU it abide !n tiiem. If a man buy a ioint of meat, does he not Bait it, that the meat may keep? , „ ,, . „,, Noi circumcision is as salt, and all the inwards must bo washed away, that they may be salted upon If a husband refuse his wife going to a sabbatu mectin.r, or keeping an hour to the Lord, she is to shaU be accepted as in the midst ■ the flock. Hut if she negleci that hour then she '« »"'l«.'-.t™"f .7 ' pion, and must submit to the law of Christ. Ihis s ; her own inward monitor, and not for men to rule Zt by. Let not a ruler judge that w nch they have ol sLn, lest they bo judged. This is a law to a female that has an unbelievinjr husband. A female under her father, if he clothes her he is the head of her, choose where it may be ; and if he causes her work in the midst of the sabbath hour sho must do it, and keep the first hour the same as a lemale hay- i, g an unbelioving husband. And it a female be 111 her courses sho cannot take the covenant. But if she neglect that when she should have taken it, sho has to submit to that law she neglected,.aud goes over until the next year. , • 1 1 guestion.—lohn Itishop, if a woman deceived her husband by being in her courses, and she made ho man believe it was through her virgini y, and tha "ho never knew man. (3o,l says they shall not marry them in that state. Wouldst thou marry them ( Answer.-l shouhl not in that state. _ If tho Marriage Oufuiuony uo icau, wiiu » lemais I I 96 must be rtaS-ovJr IfnT'd rr '" T"^""''^ *' covenant over a™in hI i ?., '"'^ ""*' 'ai^e 'be He also snotf nf' "^'' "'''•'' ''«'« *"''<"= it- twelve HtonTshe iwe'r""' "t ■^r'^r'""-- «"<' *''« En^'land; al.o 'o hi' ravr''t„tkt'" t^''' »° and leave one stone Jtllf i ^ " ^""^ "^ 'tones, pie. He Tatd Z l'?f P'"'"' '" Satl.er the peo- being as a letter carrier h^ s3 ; f T ?P.*'''""g^ °f h« ten cannot read yo^' lette/ ar^ if l"^ ^^ ". ^'''■ letter where am T ? Ti I ' " ^ '^^^^ °ot my read it, ZZ^^. ,,l':Z'^ « -^taring man maj: EdKs!" '™'" '°'"' ^^™«'^ --"' by Benjam-:n Drunnondme, Niagara Falls, Canada West, 37th of 5th month, J 859. -. Sabbath hour. Geor^: hIL? V/a^m loZTr ""*';■ '''"' nation, ., a breal. not the Tw^ tt^^'a";';- " Answer. — No. Thou hast answered wisely, so was ifc wifl, *i Hebrews and God. God called fhnP X *^'? the six thousand years ail nl 5 f ^'^^^^^s, and no charife airainst the uni.I 'n ^ ' t?"^ there was Whatl*' The 1 w~thoy L th^iruf ^"^ '""'"■ it not for the life of tboVody ^ '' '"" ^'"'''""^ 97 Question.— Then 11' I possess it not what charge is there ? Answer. — None. Question.— Then if I walk according to the com- mand of God, which he has given me, am I not Christ's workman ? Answer. — Yes. . ^^ , i n\ ■ 4.y Question.- Then the law of God shews Christ s workman ? Answer. — Yes. , . ^ t Queetion.— He did the work in Jesus ; Jesus was a prisoner they delivered him unto the Gentiles. Upon the second day it was said the soul should die, but if it shewed repentance the soul and spirit should be made as the angels of God. But now it is the third day. ., ^ , xi „ We now come to the Gentiles. God gave them a law, but do they ask for the oil ? for if they have it, it would shew its light, and that their lamp was lit. Now there is the lamp, the oil, and the light; then are there not three things ? I ask thee in the name of God. Answer. — Yes. ,, , • .1 o • * 7 Question.— What are they called in the Scripture? I want thee to answer me. Answer.— The commandment is a lamp, and the law is the light. , . , ^i <> Question.— When did God give them these ! Answer.— I cannot answer. Question.— What was Enoch— was ho not a light unto them ? Answer.-^Yos. . ,. w n Question.— Did they fulfil that light ? Answer. — No. Thou hast answered wisely. Question.-Theu Elijah was tor the second dny f Answer. — Yes. m • •* „♦ T««.,a 7 Question.— What was the oil-is it not Jesus t Answer. — Yes. He is the auoiutuU, the _i„ 1./% aliowa flio lie DUCV TT rr N brightness and the light. Then if one has broke the iaws ot his country he is a prisoner. Then, how much more is he a prisoner to the laws of God? i^ut if he keep them in me then I shall never taste ot death, nor will this body see corruption. John, in the ffospel, says never perish. (John x. 28.) Then It I keep the law of Christ mortal is to put on im- mortality. ^ Now there are the lights, Enoch, Elijah, and our -Lord ; bv two or three witnesses is it established, the immortal life of the body. The prayer ia to be iheh"" "PO" *^e thumb nail; this is the prayer of Eddl"e ^° ^'°^ *^°^^ '^"^^^'^ ^^"^^^ ^^ Benjamin tv DrummondviUe, 28th of 6th month, 1859. Question.-- John Bishop, when Jesus said "Touch me not, for I have not yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brethren, and say unto them I accend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." John xx. 17. Was that to the incorruptible or immortal in para- ge? Were these brethren incorruptible or immor- the'^mTortd^ '^'"^^ '"P^^^^ ^' ^«« «P^^^-^ '^ Thou hast answered wisely, for upon another op. portunit^ he said "le are of your father the devil." John vin. 44 The one is the incorruptible, the other the immortal The Son of man was not to speak but in parable, « But the time cometh when I shall no more speak to you in parable, but I will shew you plainly of the Father.'^ John xvi. 85. And the mysterieB of that kino^dom prepared of my Father. Written from John Wroe's mouth by Beoiamin Drummondvilie, ^dth ofQtk month, 1859. Sabbath hour. (Juestion. — Benjamin Ed but not f only g-ratted into his death. There are tliree g-rafts, three states of ^raftin« written 0,1 rennp If T,"' ^"T^fh "P"" t>'e river St. Law- rence, ot n Ihousan,! Islands, wliile goina' from Niagara to Boston, on tl,e 31st ^f 5th moluh.^SSO lehil HT^ "-n'T'- ""'^ "''O "'"' «*Sn for them- selves, be ad.mtted in, as members, if thev cut their tnll members at twelve years of ao-e by takiriff the covenant. Uncovenanted n.embers' children canSa e the covenant at twenty years of ag-e. After taki,,,. rvnno!"-"/'"'-^r ■'/"'• '^" Spirit to keep the royal law in them; he that seeks not is a hase-bes-ot. Kd^bC ^''"'" •'°'"' ^^'•""'^ "'«""' by Benjamin Ilofiton, Ut of 0th month, 1850. . At a meetiufi- of the friends at Hoston, in the even- "8- ot he 1st of 0th month, 1850, John'Wroe spoTe the followiiiff words: "" spuiie and'Z Yn r''" /^'Tf "^"^^ beg-'in to minister, nnd the children ol full members must remain iineo' veminted members if they refuse to submit to tl o 101 t law. At twelve years old they can be grafted into his life, the law of Christ making them free, for repentance is for the salvation of the soul. The prayer for the covenanted members is now altered, and ye may say it as often as ye will, that his life may remain in ye, which ye are grafted into, until it be grafted into ye, and bear the fruit in you. Now dost thou understand me, for some say they understand when they do not, being asliamed ? Question.— Eliab Metcalf, who is to bear the fruit in thee? Answer. — Christ. No, it is Jerusalem the Branch. Question.— Those that understand not, let them wrestle with me until they do. I am sent to the officers, and not to the people. Now tliere are dif- ferent graftings; those of the common salvation, christened or baptized, are grafted into his death ; was thou ? Answer. — T was. Question. — That is for the soul to be saved in the resurrection. Jesus said, "I am he tliat livetb, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore" Bev. i. 18. Now thou art to come out from death unto life ? Answer. — Yes. Question.— If thou come out, hast thou not saved the inheritance for thy children, who are under twelve years of agfe ? Does thou understand ? Answer. — Yes. Question.- -Above twelve years old if they refuse they go with the world, so that there is a separation of children. Then if thy children refuse who are above twelve, which is a fiery trial, can thou stand that fire ? Answer. — I should hope so. Question.— Did not Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed- nogo stand the fire ? Answer. — Yes. Question.— We shall all stand if God bo with us. 1% •IH: i ■! ■ '^m - 102 Do we fear the gra^ ? for h€ will fi-iv^ that hti^A wh,ch orercometh death. J^sas fiairyour fatW« did eat manna, and are dfia*! R„f *i: / o . ^^^'^^^^ give them bread ttrthe^tver die '^fe ^'^^ onto them eternal life ani H,T iT fi* ^"^ ^ ^^^ve John X 2ft Til- • ' u . * , ^ ^*^®^^ "ever perish." An8wer.-The mortal I believe then. there":!, LtV';'ar!r BuTwrntltife f come, that which is'^imperfoot uT h^Lne^Z,^ Ue prayer renews hie life in you every t °me ve" /v 5^£r:!,/zr^aiwT«-;^nt:ri^^^^ ifikeep:or;t7'''''rr''' •-^ thriWofd! "an 7hat eountryr °/l* ?h"t "^ "^ ' "■« ^'«- Answer. — No. L 103 Question.— Am I not their prisoner? Bat if I keep their laws are they not my protection? Answer. — Yes. So the laws of God and the laws of the country are one with them that have the Spirit. Jesus laid down his life that they might have life more abund- I am to preach in New York, and that will be the last time in America, and I have preached my last in England. • x) 1 am moved to speak upon children again. Ke- becca had a trial in the case of Jacob ; she said she was weary of her life, lest he should go to take a wife of the daughters of the land. But let us not murmur, for we are one's apiece. I am seeking my own body, then if I get it will it not be a rejoicing for me ■ Question.— How maitiy are there here to take the covenant ? Answer. — Four. Question.— Have they been married ? Answer.— Not by the form of Israel. Question.— Then they are only married by the world, and must be married by the form of Israel, and then take the covenant. Preachers are to go out as sheep among wolves, but if a preacher have the lion with him is he to fear? But how can he preach unless he have him with him? but when a man has him not then is tear. I saw the lion in vision with me^ but when he is not with me, then fear and trembling. Did thou ever know a prophet but what was afraid after that Spirit had lett him? John Bishop, can thou tell of any? Answer. — I do not know that I can. Elijah shewed that point, and it is the same with, all messengers, even to Jesus. But they are as bold as lions till it has left them, then fear and trembling. When a preacher stands up, let him not study what to say, nor pick a text, nor his subject, and worda BhaU flow faster than ha Cftu uttec them. ! f I M f ,1 ' I'i 104 preS: «';orti;o";";;f.;,:;r,!i'r ""■"•'r ^^ -* «' '!«>■«, 8o that tiKrcaoU™ ?"'»?;''''■'''"«■ "'" «''^ tl.ey will be l.ea/d Lot t em ."?« *^ """''''""'* I-reaob, neither pick a te^t f".,;; ?„:"' "'"^ '''""'°' ""to vou. Anli when 1 » ^- '"' ' f '''" ''^'"' '"■» the w^rld of 8 . r nf • '. ""'"''' ''" "'■" '•'-"prove wont." JolmTvi. 7,8 '■'='"<"'"«"«^«. ""J of judg. ■And lie will shew von the fniM. T „ P">'ter to shut the door o • the ™ 1 f ' •! "'",""' *''« ff«ve the law to m„' " ;„?!'/"?' 'f ''« '^l'" P;eaehe,, and it wW b" , ov d 1. "t tZ T '!" Looks of tl,o vat di«t, ;" "!, ^^f™"'',""'! the fonr' that «tnn be f^e t1,o o;i"of 'r " "i" ' *"'"■ '^''"" i"? the life of t e ;,1 "d of H.e" ' ." ""'1 ' '^""''- J'.-w „„d Gentile now Ltoter^'n •"'"'" '?' proved. In the eye of tie world , ' " """''^ wnv*., bi.t Jew auInlJiU ( ""'' " <">*' "''J"" >.i.«-h;.n.i. i)Tu ; r ' 1 eZi o^f tT """ -r' '- of the dead, for the livi ,' h„vo hot tl.eV"" ""> ","' onr:a;d^";i:,trl*';^.r ^:„t;r''"'i °^ ^^»-. thee not : bnt for bh.anhe v ^ i "'"''' ""^ «'»"« After his resurrection they t lo Jl.T l,„ " *" ;*•■*• man when 'le cMmnn.l, Ti v*^ ''° '''"' ""other That i"nn,;;.;„r-'S as w,u'''i;i;"'™ r"", """"• -«t»up"n thewhclle ho^:: o? tr "ih;;'' J,'?' " '»ot 1 aw an([ onnw.] 'vi , -*^''"*^'* inoy will kpop unto then,, "Moses tlutV; ^1: J '. „ .l^!^ -=-o„,^noi u«c«uso it u of Mo,es. but of ti.e'fa^th;;;"; ' * * = *? ■ .. -.■% . .»»^y 105 and the sabbath day man." Jchn ircumoi8e accused him because he wrouj^ht cures upon the sabbath day— they thoujrht it not lawful. Man must see his own nakedness before he can seek the salvation of the soul. Are not the priests and the doctors asking for the amendment of their acts. But if ye have made a covenant ye are to come out from the ming-led seed. Ye will hear toll of a murmuring, and there are that will j?o out with their children. Does thou wish to go out with thy children that are above twelve? Answer. — I think not. Question.— Some of ye have a family of children ? Answer.— There are two families. Question.— Now I will put the question a^ain, that ye may understand. Hast thou any aooYO twelve years old? Answer.— I have one above twelve years. Question. — Would thou ". .r*"™ '' "omes to pas,: Preachers warn •tl.evsh^ll''", ''"■''''' ."■• '""P-""'! «''«» "ot for u mi i.0 hke a man having ^one' ho™; h/^^n' 107 halter leading a string of horses, and he brings the last home as well as the first. So is the house of TBi*ftel • Now if you have any questions to ask respecting the Scriptures speak. Has any member any ques- tions to ask ? If a man and woman are going to be married, do not the people round them call them weak if they keep not their own counsel ? And it a woman keeps not her husband's how can she hold that of other folk's? Many make inquiries before they look in the writings, and send it to Gravegend. The press is called a figure of the ark, and it lodges at Gravesend, and I trust it is the end of the grave. We have the works of Joseph H. Moses to look at, but let us avoid that we find fault with ; and Dkniel Milton, who has arisen up. And those who will not walk between the two lights who have arisen up to devour the sheep, all such officers are to be taken out of their offices. All that do not separate themselves from him are to go with him. Ihis 1 tell you, for his name is taken out of the Book ot Life, because he said the Lord had spoken to hini when he had not. For while ye yet live stand to your lives. He will go to many places to try to get In, but his name, with their names who have joined him, will get the salvation of the soul if they seek for it, though the body perish. Seek Christ by day and by night, that ye may abide in light. I know when that Spirit is upon mo, for I have as ffood a proof as though a wild bird fiying alighted upon my shoulders, flapping its wings. 1 hen when that is uilon me I speak, not in my own name; then is that a light by day and by night. When I was first visited, and heard of Joanna L read not htr writings, neither did I condemn her, tor I was commanded to sec no mans visitation, but what the Lord says unto mo. Some of the members do not allow mo to have any . . t% L T 4^ liirn l>a III il nliri*i 11..^ » J J lit: rl opinion as a nuin geon, and not to talk as an- I in livo as in a dun- her man t For 1 have im name, p p an evidence when I speak in 1 own. Then see that ye boild npon his groundwork, and be not followers of John VVroe. This I tell ye in the name of God. I do not want other men's opin- ions, neither do I want a railing spirit, but I want to be clear of your blood. But some branches are wild by nature, but the graft must be put into u» before we can have life, and it bears the fruit in us. Ihu prayer is to bring us to perfection, and we are not brought all at once, but bv little and little. No gold IS to be compared to that light, for it 'puts out all other lights. When Jesus ascended the mortal eve could not behold him, and when John was baptising, he said. And I knew him not: but he that sent mo to bap- tize with water, the same said unto me. Upon whom thou Shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaininir on bim, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Gliost." John i. {33. Now that Spirit is to be grafted, into the house of Israel b^ this covenant, and every one who signs it, and receives It in th^ heart, to them it is a covenant ot Iile, and they are called and surnamed after it, an Israelite m whom is no guile. Did not Jesus say unto Nnthanael, '' When thou was under the iijr tree I saw thee." John i. 48. I tell ye the prayer will be written upon the thumb nail ; and ye are not able o keep it, but he will strengthen you, and graft your lives into his life, or he says, - Ikonmo I live, ye shall live a so/' John xiv. 19. "And 1 give unto thorn eternal life, and they shall never perilh." John ..I7 'W^ f''^ ^i^ *J"'^ P^^'''^''^^' ***'*• ^'«^ «o«l can- not lor that 18 the hnite being, ami sleeps in tho earth until the resurrection, until the day mortal puts on^mimortnlity, and is then as the «ngel« of yvm. xu my i mn^r a house are many inaiisions " Joiin XIV. a. -^ 1 urn moved u])on again: If a woman is left with ]09 children under twelve, if she puts on immortality, then she has gained it for the children under twelve. And a man shall be a widower, and have five or six children, and if he put on immortality, and some of the children die, and some are alive, will he not still have them all — will they not come together rejoicing at the resurrection ? But they must come out from the world for the mortal to put on immortality. Satan is now going to be plucked cut of the heart of man, for he says, " I will sow the house of Israel, and the house of Judah, with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast." Jer. xxxi. Q7. Then will the Son of man sow unclean seed^ for it is his son Jeeus who abode in the Godhead. It is that same Spirit that rested upon him, and he said, " Thinkest thou that I cannot pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels." Matt. xxvi. 53. Remember he abode in the Godhead, and he is a pattern and guide for the house of Israel, and he is seeking a goodly seed that will serve him. And as a young man seeketh a maid, so is he seeking the whole house of Israel. Then come out from the mingled seed. I now bid you farewell, trusting that ye may be found in that immortal church, for we part in body and not in spirit, and may we all bo found Israelites in whom is no guile. Written from John Wroe's month by Benjamin Eddowes. On the 2nd of 0th month wo left Boston for Provi- dence, Rhode Island, and upon the 'U\\ of i\l\\ month, 1H50, after circumcising a now momber, returned to Now York. l^mi I f 110 Sanctuary y New York, Srd of 6th month, 1859. Sabbath hour. The Lord, in all a^es since the days of Adam, has had a people who were for the slaug-hter-house, or for the wicked one. This the Lord has done to see whether they would serve the living* God or the dead God ; for the evil in man is dead until it is broug-ht to lig-ht. If we have followed the dead God, then we shall have to remain until the final resurrection, though the evil is dead at the final resurrection. Now there is to be a dividing* of the people, and of children above twelve years old, they shall take a change. I mean they shall make a covenant to abide in the vine ; for if we be grafted into his death we abide until the resurrection ; but if grafted into hie life, and abide in his immortal life, then we have that life with him. God says the sheep of my pas- ture are men, and he is the incorruptible God as well as the immortal. Every child of a covenanted member can take the covenant at twelve years old. And I have seen in vision a great murmuring and distress among the women, who could not rest because their children refused being grafted into his immortal body at twelve years old. So they either be grafted in by baptism into his resurrection, being the sheep of his pasture, or to be grafted into the life of his mortal body, being im- mortal. Now those grafted into his mortal body, and abide there, he will bo grafted into them, and will do the work for the house of Israel, for every branch is to be purged, that it bring forth more fruit. Do they not name themeolves of different reli- gions? and are there not false prophets who are de- vourers, being as wolves ? Hut the good shepiierd Jays down his life for the sheep, both for Jew and Gentile, but ho oflbrod his body for the living. Hear, house of Israel ! Jlo says though thuir I Ill number be as the sands of the sea, yet a remnant of thee shall be saved. Then if we have the soul and body we are a living witness for him, and there are three living witnesses of the will of life — Enoch, Elijah, and Jesus. And when Elijah offered sacrifice, and the people saw it, they said, " The Lord, he is the God ; the Lord, he is the God." But are those in the grave the sheep of his pasture ? Are those grafted a second time into his life, though the number of them is as the sands of the sea, the remnant shall be saved. John saw the number, which was a hundred and forty- four thousand, twelve thousand in each tribe ; these are all redeemed from among men, being living stones. He shed his blood for sinners, and offered his body for the living. Jacob said, " Lo, it is yet high day, neither is it time that the cattle should be gathered together : water ye the sheep, and go and feed them." Gen. xxix. 7. Jesus said unto Peter three times. Feed my sheep. (John xxi. 17.) We are going to be proved whether we are grafted into his life, for he says, as I have overcome death so shall ye, because they are called in the regeneration to immortality, the rest are not the sheep, still the Lamb of God took sin away, yet a number perished. We find the Hebrews kept not the law. Jesus said, " Moses gave ye the law of circumcision, not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers." John vii. 22. God put his mark upon them, lest the enemy should slay them, and he will give them a heart of flesh, that they may do the work of God. I am going to put a question. Ye that are dis- satisfied with the visitation remain in your seats, and ye that are willing to abide in his life till ye be made immortal, stand up. [All the members present stood up.] I am glad to see it, for if 1 be not a branch of him an untimely birth is better for me. Though luoh oharaoters arise ai Imve in America^ and other 112 Enjjlaiid and Australia, the Loid m ill h 11 to the places ii ble and bring theui down, and resurrection. Then if one acknowledge his debts are crossed out. I tell ye in the name of God the debts shall be soug-ht for, and not found ; it shall be crossed out of the book of life ; for the sins of Israel and J udah shall be sought for and not found. Jesus was brought to death for the sin of the human race. I know the Hebrews will have liberty in all lands, but these cannot put on immortality, but are in the image of man, not of man and God ; and when they see the redeemed they shall say. These are our Gods, lor the Spirit of God has redeemed them from among men, and they are then perfect God and perfect man, and will never taste of death. Do not the world say all mcst die? But is God deficient ? The blood of animals was not sufficient, and he oflfered his Son after foii thousand years, the seed of the woman, for a sacrifice. Many say these things will not come in our days, such characters do not believe in God. I will make a comparison : the wicked one says man will not live in immortality. The world cannot see the two lights, and those in the covenant will not fear bad tidings in the newspapers nor magistrates. The house of Israel will have their debts crossed out of the book of life. They will have the laws written upon the tables of their heart. And they are the cattle of a thousand hills, and there is only one that is to obtain it, and that one is an hundred and forty-four thousand engraved with the finger of Gcd. The four books of the gospel are the will of the house of Israel, and they will do a greater work through that Spirit working in them, and will never taste of death. " And I give them eternal life, and they shail uofer perish." John x. 2S. Then are they the freemen of tho city. If I r^ mail* in th» via© I do the will of th« prophet till I 113 dwell between the root and branch, for without him I can do nothing". If I abide in him, and him in me, that is that Comforter, which shall deliver me. I am not that Comforter, but I am sent to bring the people in that spirit, and ye will have one greater than me with you, that Spirit which man cannot part from you. Now ye mast offer your children at twelve years according to the law of Mosos. Jesus is an example, he was not begotten in sin, nor shaped in iniquity, yet he was in the loins of Adam ten generations, but he was purified from that he was conceived of, and had a body without spot or blemish, and is now com- ing with that same body which was nailed to the cross, which is to descend to the hundred and forty- fcur thousand, who are to stand on Zion's hill, their entrails will be washed away and made flesh by that immortal Spirit. Then what is it to man if it be ten thousand years off, if he be dwelling between the root and branch ? Happy shall I be if I be found one. Now it is to be completed in six thousand years, and for the elect's sake the days are shortened, that flesh may be saved. So some are corruptible and some immortal. So when a prophet is in the Spirit he brings peace to the soul and peace to the body. Now those dissatisfied with the messenger, who seek another, and not the life of the body, let the house of Israel let them go, for the prophet is sent to establish pfeace to the people. Jesus and Christ are our only God. And in Zion at that day there will bo no sound of a tool. Now ye have stood upon year feet, and to ye that are in the covenant, and abiding therein till ye dwell between the root and branch, that Jerusalem above bear the fruit in you, let not that covenant be de- stroved, I labour as one in the covenant. Let every oflicer who is as a shopliord stand for his lifo in hii» office. l*eter wept bitterly when ho had denied JesuB. But he does not speak to him about the 114 cattle. Jesus said I am not of the world, and I d not say ye, but may I be one. I o of " " ', 1 -' -^ s^y 111 the name oi bod, may he keep me m this faith till I dwell be- tween the root and branch, and be made like him. It we abide m him we abide in peace and prosperity and ^0 no more out and the whole world shall ac- knowledge that he bears the fruit in us Now if I am not faithful in my servitude I must go to my place; and let not a man seek his neioh- bours judgment, then he will do right. Let him come out from the evil of his mother, and be purified by that mother, Jerusalem above, for the woman's see was among- the unclean, and he is the shepherd ot the cattle, and will gather his elect, and they shall serve him day and night. ^ Eddowe^" ^"^"'"^ ^''^'' ^'^''''®'' '^°''^^ ^^ Benjamin :|'i I On Sunday, the 5th of 0th month, 1859 after thn sabbath hour John Wroe was visited by a'n Etl h lady, who lately had been residing in Cuba she hnv mg purchased the books, Pnd bei.| desirous'of seeing John Wroe In the afternoon, it having been an? nouneed m he newspapers, John Wroe preached "n Mozart Hall, Broadway, New York. The snhWf was the parable of the viie in John xv. The conire jjation were very attentive. ^ At the close of the preaching Daniel Milton, who calk himsel a prophet, and who sat in the congre- gation yM h>s hat on, stepped to where JohTwZ was, and a,iked him "If he should know the out Btone again if he saw it ?" ""' 115 New York, (Sth ofQth month, 1859. Inquiry and answer. Question.— If a member ^oes to the world, or to any one, and slanders the character of a member, or tells lies about a member, and comes and submits to the law without goin^ and confessing to the persons the lie was told to, is he freed from that law ? Answer.— He is not, but must g-o and confess to those persons he or she told the lie or slander to be- fore he can be made free. Bur- if the person be a member of whom he told the H s, and will not for- give him when he confesses, then that member is to be shut out until he forgive that offence, but they are not to go to the world to confess. This to be put in the General Assembly's Guide. On the 7th of 0th month, 1859, John Wroe was visited by a Hebrew, who had attended the preach- ing on Sunday afternoon, with whom he had a long conversation. And upon this day, receiving no infor- mation of a vessel sailing direct to Australia, or of any direct conveyance from the Isthmus of Panama, two passages were taken for Liverpool by the steamer Avm, from New York, which was to sail upon tlie 8th of 0th month, 1859. Jn the evening of the 7th of 0th month, 1859, a meeting of the members were called, at which the following words were spoken :— • The Lord said he would speak to the people with strange lips; now he speaks in the English lan- guage ; that language many among us do not knmy ; that^'language which God now visits with his Spirit, by which ye are gathered together to hear the word of God; but lot them get the English Bible, and their own Bible, and pick Sunday afternoon to learn the English. The Lord will have but one standard, and during his mortal life, and before the taking up H I 8 I I 4- 116 ^Ly'J""^^' '"' 7!" "'"''^ " l'°own that the Lord spoke to hin, and he will know Lis place. Many prophets have arisen up, bat when thia w„,j has g:oDe to them they were subjet to -'e stronger w T„^ w ?*'''' .-^^'"^ ''"'•ds, and follow them wor/onife^"""' """ '"" ^''^°' ^'>^' -Weh isthe' I know when to speak in my own name and when Ho'w'^hrolt "t? 1 '''''''"' I "■" l-'' horn o Dlow tnrough. Iheu fear not, when thev sav Lo Then when Jhe;pthis' ln^s"° pro^^h^Ti after them, but abide in what thoa art ffmftfd for ye are not «.afted into John Wroe, but h^y the word ot God; and what he brings place dde bjsidt ^i h the feoriptures for the Testament is the weiXs a„d the laws are the scales. Then if it be not weight follow It not, but throw it from you, for the Test, ment is the w wbiVli m;il i,„ J"")^"^ '"e lesta- rection hnihtlir , ^^ .P™^"*! at the resnr- lection, both to believers and unbelievers. of waTer/w"!,"^ to-morrow for can a fish live out or water It it can so can I. Now I was to Abp a^o "JherftSr™*^ h "^ 'f ^*™- ' «>" "" A-^r! t„L !i ,y^' ■"* « ''•"•ge nnmber, and ve will take another place. And let those of another Ian |aag:e meet together, and the English to them^elveT tor many nations will flock hither t'»««'8elves, out ^rU •""■"«/.<' ,I«™el! Behold the ,f^n^ .at out ot the mountain! Behold, that stoi - L . ZTV "'^ ?;''™"' ^'"- •' "- ''"body of a? HT^^" ''■ P''-n.,t";\de!^ '":: Hebre-w;' bIMed Tl"'' ^^""n"' ^f'S" <"«'• "«"'. tl'ey were wSfill3 h" *''" ^"'""'''» '""' t'-e ScripturJ, then S ^"il'i'A^. P''?'''".' ■?^. ■'««"'' '« Esau, for Esau Isaac Il1*;r""'-''"'""T"* """^ *''« blessing, and Isaac said the voice is Jacob's, but the hands are 117 Esau's. Did noc Jacob obey his mother's voice? pid not Jacob say I shall seem as a deceiver, and it v^ill be a curse, and not a blessing ? " My son, obey my voice ; let the curse be upon me," and she de- livered, and gained the victory by her son. Did not Esau say, my father, hast thou, but one blessing ? Now here is Jew and GenHle, and he said by thy sword shall thou live, till thy yoke be broke off thy brother's neck. Was not Jesus the fruit of Jacob's body.? Was not Jacob's last dying words that the- ^ebrew should be subject to the Gentilfe ? And the Hebrews obeyed by being subject to the Gentiles.. But do they not now lend to Es^u sijver and geld,, houses and lands ? Did not J^oob offer Esau two of his flocks ? But there are three flocks at the fulness, and the last flock is the immortal; they are not for the slaughter, tor they are those who are dead, being for the incorruptible. But by and by will be the third flock crying victory over death, hell, sin, and the grave. Then, grave, where is thy victory ? This will be the third. Jacab sfJd, Lo, it is ynt high day ; go water the sheep, that is the two flocks for the slaughter, they are not the sheep of the pasture, but of the slaughter, Jew and Gentile, Jesus said other sheep I have which are not of this fold, not of the incorruptible; and I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, their mortal bodies. (John X. 28.) And if the days were not shortened no flesh could be saved, but the days ^re already shortened. Does not John, in the Revelation, say the dead are saying, How long, Lord, holy and tpue, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth. (Rev.* vi. 10.; Are they not crying out upon the evil ? God is now giv- ing another prayer for ye to say. Take the root of evil and his seed out of me, then will not perfect righteousness dwell in you i This prayer is for the li fp nf f lift hoflv ! for this nronhfisifid of inanv Vflnrfl since will yet come to pass — it will be written upon the thumb nail, for Jesus Christ will be immortal 118 ■within your temples when he has done in you as the Scriptures have said, and ye shall g"o on from perfect man to perfect God and man. May 1, with you all, unite in that one immortal Spirit, for it is the will of life to our bodies. Jesus said it was not the time for them to know, and Paul said the child- ren were not yet born to know g"ood or evil ; but the kingdom was to be g'iveu to those prepared by the Father. JNow Jesus sows the seed of the Son of God, and the seed of the beast, but that seed was withdrawn when they took him prisoner, for before that what power could withstand him ? Had he not power over all? Were not devils subject to him, and served him? Was there not a woman with seven devils subject to him ? I am doinjr this to shew the ])ower Christ had. Now he has promised the same Comforter, and said, If I go not away ho will not come. Now here is the difference in the common salva- tion, they are o-nifted into Christ, and bear of their own kind — they bear of death ; but now he is alive for evermore, havini^ overcome death, havinj^ the keys of hell. " 1 shut, and no man can open; and open, and no man can shut." Then if we open our hearts we shall dwell in his Spirit, and ho will keep the laws in us. Death separates the spirit and soul from the body, and all rise at the resurrection to give an account of the deeds done in the body. So there are two debtors, but all that are for im- mortal life come out from death ; the days aro al- ready shortened for the elect's sake, and his j^lory will bo rev:Milud in the third iluck, for they are tho sheep who aro not of the incorruptible, th(»y aro not tho sheep of the slauji'hter. Jiut to them ho Bays, As I live ye shall live also, for they are graft- ed into his life to overcome the works of hell. God has not iiriven one law for me and n not her for you. I must have n ticket to shew I have kept my sabbaths; this is for an example, that I vvalkinir for life, and not for death, for if 1 am 119 am not walking for life I am for death. The work is first unto me, and then unto the sheep ; and the ^ood shepherd has laid down his life for the sheep. I am not that shepherd, but the horn. Do not shep- herds of men have horns to call their cattle ? And does not God call men his cattle, the cattle of a thou- sand liills? Hear, house of Israel, is not the Jew circum- cised upon the eiglith day ? — is he not j>rafted then into his church by that as a natural Jew ? — but that is for death. But flesh is to be saved. Was not that flesh nailed to ihe cross saved, and became im- mortal flesh, and became fruit to bear the fruit in man? And may our hearts hold that blessing-, which is of God ; and ma}^ he fully dwell in this body, that it see not corruption. I am not going- back to Melbourne House, for I am going on my journey to Australia, trusting tliafc those who see me not again in a mortal life may all walk together as Jesus walked, and overcome as he overcame; for he will be a light by day, and a wall of fire by night, for he laid down his life for his flock: he is the shepherd who shall guide man into immortal life. That Spirit left Jesus, for when he was u[)on the cross, about the ninth hour he cried, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me ? Ful- flliing what Isaiah said, " For a little moment 1 hid myself froih thee ;" ho then paid the debt for the sheep of the slaughter, for he savs, " I am the resur- rection and the life ;" lie shewed the likeness of the angels, but Ghrist shewed his body alive for the im- mortal ; and the four books of Moaes, and the four books of the Evangelists will prove ye and me, for he is the shepherd of the flock, ihat immortal i)ro- phot, and the living are the sheep of his pasture, and It is to their children. Hut Satan walks to and fro amonir them that are numbered. Hut Jesus Christ is to reign ; the prince ui tnis woriu ruigiia irusuj} , ho is like a wolf, and is strong in death. And those who will not have Jesus Christ to reign over them 120 1 ; «i 1 * 1 fti 1 1 are grafted info deatli for the alang-hter. Those who die in the covenant are called saints, because they held the faith of the redemption of the mortal bod}^, they followed him in the reg-eneration in il is world. But now the time is come that the destroyer of the earth shall be taken away, and the children shall possess the king-dom, for they are the elect, and will reijrn one thousand years over the serpent. Now I g-o away, and if ye will not have him to reig-ii over you, if you will not be subject unto him, then ye ^o to the slaughter ; for how can ye over- come without him, he is Israel's example? Thoug-h the Father delivered all thing^s to him, yet he said without the Father he could do nothing. But if that branch g-raftod into Jet^us bo gfrafted into you, then will ye bear fruit in God. In the name of Jesus Christ 1 ask ye all to walk tog^ether, uniting with him, that he may keep his law in ye, and me, as it did in him. This is now revealed unto you, that when he re- turns me, a preacher will be sent to the East Indies, and to the West Indies. They shall g-o with this prophecy there, for the cattle are upon a thousand hills, and they are mine, saith the Lord. Now I must depart, for remember the old and tho young- pro])het, for I must be about my Father's busiriess ; and thoug:h wo part in body may we not m spirit, until our spirits bo broug-ht together in tho Spirit of the Lord, that when it descends we may be brougfht to life. And though wo go forth weeping-, may wo return rejoicin^r in him, being- separated only as it were for a little moment. Remember ye will have ono gfroater with you, both by day and by nig^ht. 1 am going- to tho world among the wolves, but if I keep their laws why should I fear? If Jehovah's Spirit bo with me why fear the wolves? I now bid yo nil farowoll. and mny the blessing of (iod rest upon both yo and mo. Written from .lohn Wroo's mouth by Bonjamirt Eddowos. '' 181 The following was written to be sent to Robert Cook, in Canada. Thy child thou hast given two names to it, which is contrary to law and gospel. It must have its mother's surname before thou married her. If a man die, and his wife lives, whether does the dead or the living claim the living child ? The mother shall claim the living child, because she is the mother of the living. Same way is to the male, if the female die then the father shall claim the living. There- fore thou art adopting the child to thyself before thou knows whose the child is. Joseph Greaves, when he returns, is to name thy child. Ann Graham is to take the covenant over again, she having told the law of Christ to two females be- fore they uad undergone the law. Abel being the sou whom the promise was unto, his body was mortgaged for six thousand years. Satan is the shepherd over those who are of the in- corruptible fold. New York, Qth of 0th month, 1859. Joseph Croaw must remain a half member till he take the covenant again, he having lost his seal, the water cannot cleanse him, he must come to the law of Christ. . . Elizabeth Easton to be entered uito tlie Ihird Book. Androw IJoad and Elizabeth Read to bo enterca into the Third Hook. ^ i-ii i:- -^t inemDur luna u nc vi An inquiry, with answer. Question, —if a covonantod momb nnolhor moml)or, or chargec another with tolling a lie, and cannot prove it, and then delivers up their 122 seal and ticket to the female officer, and that female oflicer receives that seal and ticket, and then returns tliem without causing that member to underg-o the aw before it be returned to that member, is it riffht to do so '? ^ Answer.~It i. not rig-ht, and that person must take the covenant over ag'ain, and submit to the law ot Christ before doino- so, and the female officer in iike manner both being- guilty of that breach. This to be entered into the Females' Laws. John Wroe and Beniamin Eddowes arrived at Liverpool from New Yort by the Roval Mail Steamer iQrn' ""^ ^?°.^.''^ morning-, the 19th of Gth month, ISod. And It was stated by many passeng-ers on board, some of whom had been twenty-six tinJes, and twenty-two times across, that the ocean was never seen by them calmer than upon this passag-e, which was made in ten days and a half from New York to nfVX 1 7 completes a travel bv sea and land ot 7100 miles, Irom leaving- Liverpool to arrivinc- at Liverpool ag-aiu. ° (Signed) J. A. J. Oravcsend, QQth of (\th 7nonth, 1859. In New York, nmong^st about one hundred mem- bors, there are s,x lanjvuag-es, and if John Wroo ffathorod them jt may bo asked how could thov un- derstaiia ni« speech ? T{»t I am glad that 'they could not understand me, for it shows that thoy were 123 gathered not by John Wroe, but by that immortal Spirit. But I am of the same nation and language as ye here, how is it then that ye do not understand me ? It is because you do not like strong things, and things that are against you; ye like smooth things, and some of ye like to make yourselves dif- ferent from other men, to appear before them as something that ye are not. Now ye know your former prayer I trust, but ye know not what ye ask; ye say thy will be done, what is his will ? The dead shall go to the dead. And how does he shorten men's lives ? Has he not taken the woman as an instrument to bring forth the children for death? Now what did the Hebrews say to one another? They saw the mountain burn, and they said let not God speak to us, but speak thou. They saw the light of the Spirit, but did not receive it, neither did they receive the light of the Spirit when it came and rested on Jesus. Now ye have the prayer to ask ani receive tliis Spirit, but if ye are like tliem, and do to in your hearts for a man to speak to ye, and not God, then ye must go to your own place. Now if a man has been whoring can he utter this prayer? can he deliver his spirit, soul, and body to God? Now there are four things which rest be- tween man and God— wlioring, murder, stealing, and lying; and I ask thee, William Spice, (of Sitting- bounie,) can a man who has done those things go and receive a cleansing? Answer. — Yes. How can ho go, his conscience condemns himr Even the world, when they liave done these things, are condemned by their conscience, but they daro^ nut confess, but the member who has done any of these things must tfo and confess. " If any man bring his gift to th(5 altar, and then^ n^nember that ins brother hath ought aguinut liim, lot him leave there his gift before the altar, and go his way, and Hrst he 134 j: ■ reconciled to his brother, and then come and offer his gift. Matt. V. 23, 24. Now I take the last first; if a man has told lie» ot another member, let him go and confess to that member, and then go and receive the cleansing, and his gift IS accepted. ^' Now I will put a close question to thee : If thou, James Furnner, had a daughter, and a man in the covenant, and he is a married man, came and over- came her could thou forgive that man ?— if he came and asked forgiveness of thee, couldst thou forgive him? " Answer. — Yes. Well thou mavest think thou could, but it would be the hardest trial a man could have, though so will the house of Israel be. Now there is a man in America been doing this thing, and he has to return to hi8 own country, and seek forgiveness of the iather and mother, and if they forgive him not thev are shut out. Behold, the woman was a covenanted member, but she is not so now. On the following passage being read in the Covc^ nant Book " That they all may be one; as thou, lather, art m me, and I in thee, that they also be one in us." John xvii. 21. . He said, Now, I would have ye all to mark this • do ye understMud that ye dwell between the root aud the branch I Jesus for three years dwelt between tliG root and the branch, the two immortal spirits rested on him, and was not the whole creation of inan subject to him ?-and they who touched the ijem ot ins garment were made whole. Christ is tlie root, and Jerusalem is the branch. Tho female is the branch, and bears the fruit, and so is the house of Israel grafted nito th(3 root, and the branch into them, that they may bear fruit, but if ye do not abide can ye bear fr.iit? Now this is what Jew and " •' "'V "'" " "»«y see ye uouiinif irnit, (Ik will say those are our mMlI •g" icy Now then, ye are all euminaiided to be nroacho rs. 125 Hearken to this. " That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son ot man shall sit 'in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Matt. xix. 28. In the world to come he shall re- ceive wife and children, house and lands fin hundred fold. (Matt. xix. 29.) And he that liveth and be- lieveth in me shall never die. All the Lord s pro- phets declare these things. w u <. Come ye out then, and be separate, and touch not the unclean thing, and what ye ask ye shall receive. A Jew said to me in New York, I believe these things that you say, but it will not be in my day, but Jesus said if ve believe ye shall receive I said to him, the time "is at hand when Zion shall be delivered and bring to birth. I know it is hard to forsake those old things, but he will do it in us. Written from John Wroe's mouth by Edward I . Hutchins. -♦- The same dote, after the sahhath hour. Now I am bringing forward this, that Jesus laboured for three years, knowing that the mortal life must die for the sins of the world. Now when Christ and Jerusalem left him he was subject to the world, and if Christ and Jerusalem abide with us, and we abide in him, the world are our prisoners and °"now rtold'ye that the woman bears the fruit, she is the branch. Now Jesus said I am the root. (iiey. xxii 10 ) And Christ beooraos now the root again to ail that have taken this covenant in their hearts. Now is it possible for a man to commit whoredom, ufnnllncr. or Ivimr. or murder, if he is dwelluig be- tween '"the root^and the branch? I say I may bu tempted, but I cannot do it. 126 Now then, God placed a thing- they could not keep m I Wi until the time. Now William' ^^_., „„„ sow the seed of Satan when thou beg-ot children ? Answer. — Yes. But now God says I will sow the house of Israel with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast. Thou wants now then to sow the seed of the Son of man— the seed of life ; and if thou abides in Christ, and Christ abides in th^e. then thou sows this seed of the son of man. All these things appear very hard, but when they get the Spirit it will become easy. " Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me ; for I am meek and lowly in heart : and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is lig-ht." Matt. xi. 29, 30. I say in the name of God we must be g-rafted again. Now if a prophet arises, and ye think him right, then follow him. This I have said to all where I have been, to &ee who was on the Lord's side and who on Satan's, and wherever I have been, that Lion that I have seen by my side in the visions I have had, has been with me, and there has been neither Jew nor Gentile that could stand before the word. Now I have seen weeping, and lamenting, wring- ing of hands among the women over their children at twelve years of age when they would not take the covenant. Now this is as Rebecca, they are weary of their life because of the daughters of the land, (Gen. xxvii. 40,) for their children are among them snarod and taken. But should not the dead go to the dead? But who has done this ? Now 1 come to the mother: hast thou brought them up in the faith, or sent tlieni out in the world ? Hnst thou set the living before them, or the works of the dead— tlie mingled seed or the seed of Cod? Then the woman is in fault, it is she who has let them run with the world, and go in the ways of the world, and behold, at twelve years of ago they will not leave them. " Train up a child in the way ho 127 should ^0, and when he is old he will uot depart from it." Prov. xxii. 6. , x- a Now I will set before you the example ot Amer- ica : behold, they are keeping a school of their own, and let not their children run with the world, i ask, will ye bring up your children subject to ye or not'.' 'Was not Jesus subject to his parents, and is he not an example for ye to keep them subiect to ye ? He was subject to them even to the affe of thirty years, and then the world became sub- iect to him for three years. And I have this to tell ve in the name of God, that ye will find these words alive in you, though it should please God to give this body as food to the fishes. New this is all I have beyond ye. I have things shewn me before they come to pass, and ;yhat it i am taken away .?— to whom will ye go ? It is Christ that has the words of life. Look at the sanctuary at Ashton being taken away, it is to prove who are dwelling between the root and the branch. Now then I know I have many nations to go into yet, and ye hove heard that I have a sack to fill with smooth stones, and leave a stone in every island ; it is the word. I am to cut a twig oft the tree ot death, and ffraft it into the tree of life, and this wants un- derstanding, and I will show thee as God has shown me There is a Methodist, or one of any other sect of the common salvation, and he is crying out day and night for the soul; then I am commanded to cut oft the top of his tree, and graft it to a tree ot ^ Now ye remember reading about this lock that wras found at Melbourno House, which caused the house to be plagued ? There was a horse worth one hundrod guineas, and two beasts with call, all put into one grave ; and it was on this wise : at a house where I was tenant, a workman I had saw a lock, - 1 ^i.„i u «Toa a rvnnd ono. and movcd it to Mel- bourne House. I searched and found it, and re- stored it back to the owner, and behold, since then I 128 all has prospered ; even while I have been in Amer- ica all has gone well. Then ye see it is God must cleani-e our house, for this lock was unknown to me that it was there. Written from John Wroe's mouth by Edward F. Hutchins. Hie same date, afternoon meeting. There are boys of twelve years of ajre shall g-o out and declare the word, and g-ather more people than the men of forty or fifty years old. I spoke with a Jew in America, and he said he was born of the pure seed of the woman, but I said to him, was ye born of the pure seed of man ? Now this man that was crucified was not born of the seed of man. Do ye now see the diflference? He an- swered that he did. (Signed) J. A. J. I tl AshtoHj Srd of 7 th month, 1859. After the sabbath hour John Wroe spoke the fol- lowing words : — Hear, house of Israel ! Two nations have been in one womb since the creation of man I Now there will be a great murmuring among the females, and they will not be comforted, but some will go with their children because of this separation. Two na- tions are in the womb, and these words I am to send, and utter wherever I may go round this planet. When death comes in your houses are yo to mourn after the dead, or are ye to rejoice?— Jor the dead are to come to the living, but if ye mourn after the 129 dead ye must go with them. And every one who weeps for their children must ^o vrith them. Since the days of Adam until now two seeds have been in one womb. It was said unto Eebecca, " Two nations are in thy womb." Gen. xxv. 23. And it is so unto this day. And if ye weep and mourn after the dead ye will be overcome, and \rill not overcome for immortality, ye will not be found alive among the immortal, for they will obtain it. ^ Many children shall receive the immortal Spirit at twelve years old ; and it shall manifest itself at twelve years old, whether they are a child of God or a child of Satan, or whether they are for the slaughter ; but seek to be of the immortal, for this is the free election of God, for from the foundation of the world they have been slain, but God is not the God of the dead, but of the living, and he brings death unto life. First there is the man of Satan, second the boa of man, free from all sin, and the pattern is sent in Jesus Christ, who will do the work in every one who go not after the dead, but who follow on for immor- tality, they being for the living, and not of the slaughter. At six o'clock to-night I hope to meet ye, for I am shut out from meeting with you these seventy days. The iron gates are shut against me till the house of Israel be gathered. . Written from John Wroe's mouth by Benjamm Eddowes. Meeting held at Six o clock. If the woman has two nations within her womb, —I-;-!. .„«„ 4^iw. ,^r"»"Ifl« nnfo? 1 am commanded to ask questions, that understanding might be given to those in other nations. B i i ^ i ;■! 1 i ' I ' f ;> » J- 1 1 1 til, ■i> . %, . r 1 I l1 .1 130 Question. — Joseph Corry, now as there are two nations, which was the promise unto ? To begin at the creation, one was slain, the other not slain ? Answer. — That which was slain. Thou hast answered wisely. Question. — Then has not both her seeds been slain ? Answer. — Been slain except three. Thou hast answered wisely in that. Question. — Then there has been one in the first, second, and third dispensation kept alive ? Answer. — Yes. Only two of them changed to immortal without death. The house of Israel, according to the word giveu me, are for three years to dwell in camps. It has been thought it was to be in beds camping in the open fields. But that immortal Spirit is the camp they are to dwell in, and that same power will be given unto them that was unto Jesus, the woman's seed. All are now gaping for the change, not wil- ling to wait. But is Adam the first slain in you who are not willing to wait, or are his desires alive in you ? Many want healing of their diseases, and some of their lameness, but I am commanded to ask them, are they wavering, having two opinions? The Scripture says man was made subject to the fall, and was not man brought to be slain by a human woman ? — and is he not to be brought to be of the living by one ? Many not willing to wait run to feed the doctors. I can do nothing of myself, but if God's word be sent then they will be healed. I can do nothing before this comes to pass; 1 am to wander till the children be gathered, and when they are gathered I am to be examined, whether there be one in that has not the mark. If there be my life goes for his life. This slaughter has been ever since the days of Adam to Miic jjuu LiJUnv uj;un n liUlll Liiu IVVU a|>irilS Ol UfOU. rest will bo vessels of honour. When men have adopted themselves to a country they must be sub- 131 iect to the laws of that country, for if I do not am I not a prisoner? Bat if I be subject to them, are they not my protection while I am gomg from country to country, and from nation to nation. A Jew in America said he was not born in fornica- tion, but he changed his opinion when asked if he was not upon hi« father's side ; for there was mmgled seed, and the whole house of Israel are among the mingled seed round the whole planet, amongst those who seek the mammon of unrighteousness. A many may count this a hard saying. The tin'e is come that all nations shall go against Turkey, for those nations seek the mammon of un- righteousness, for Turkey shall be divided, and Amer- ica in the same manner, for they seek the mammon of unrighteousness, and they are told to make triencls with death, which is unrighteousness betore Lrod. But the living God calls to them to come out trom the mingled seed— to come out from tliem who are for death. And it is that Spirit that calls which appeared to Moses in the bush, and unto Lnoch and Eliiah, and our Lord Jesus Christ, that they come out from the mingled seed and the mammon ot un- righteousness. . p IM ^ xl Now where there is a command of liberty there is dano-er, but where there is a strict command, and they follow the Spirit there is no danger. When a shepherd goes out he blows his horn, and the sheep hear the sound, and gather together. Every one shall be a horn for that immortal fepirit to blow through ; and many shall have that Spirit and not know it, to bring out the living plants trom tiie children of the slain ; for there is a circumcision ot the flesh, which is outwardly, and a circumcision ot the heart, which is inwardly ; and they w'ho have that which is inwardly shall be strengthened, and do the work by that Spirit for three years that was done fn,. JfiBiifl- The others are as the fruits ot the eartli, and the flowers of the fleld, which have ditierent smells and tastes. The Jews have the outward cir- 132 ^1 eumcision, and when Christ had done the work for Jesus he withdrew, that he miglit make him a eacri- tice. But the Spirit was with Jesus at twelve years old J he was found disputing* with the doctors, and when he who was thoug-ht to be his temporal father, and her that was his mother, sought after him, ho said, " Wist ye not that I must be about my Father's busmess?" Luke ii. 40. After that he could not be picked out from otlier oil dren until he was thirty years old. And the children of the house of Israel will be as that, this ye will hear tell of. The former Hebrews thoucrht he was to free them, but they crucified him who was the tree, and they did not receive the power he had. JJut the promise is unto those wlio come out from the mmg-led seed, that they sliall have the Spirit of dehovah. Joseph Corry, had the Jews that Spirit? Answer.— They had not. Thou hast answered wisely. Question.—The Gen ilcs had a grc .ter light than the Jews, but neither of tliem had the power Jesus liad. Ihit the Hebrew will become as tlie Gentile—^ they will hear the voice of the Gentiles round tho whole planet. But they will not hear ns those unto whom God gives his full power unto. The Jew con- demns the Gentile, and the Gentile the Jew, thoucrh they are like the flowers of tho field, yet grafted iirto one stock, every one judg-es according- to his own opinion, though one S])irit will judge them, even to those who are called out from ileath ; for when tho sentence was passed all wore condemned to die within one day. Then how long was that, tliat death was to reig-n over them ? Answer.— One thousand years. Qne8tion.--How long* were they to produce seed under that sentence? Answer.— Six thousand years. ..,,,,.,. ^_ „^,^ ^.„.^.,jjj,j,j„j^^j, npon tlio eighth cay / - and is it not the eig-hih thuuHand year before death 18 totally destroy ud 7 Three yviwu'i^ man to 183 reign as perfect man, having no evil while mortal, afterwards enter into immortal, and the immortal cannot die ; and those who are to make friends with the mammon of unrighteousness cannot die again, hut are as the angels of God. But perfect man is to be made in the image of God, then will Paul's words be fulfilled, " To the one we are the savour of death unto death, and to the other the savour of life unto life." 2 Cor. ii. 10. So there are two lives. When Enoch and Elijah were changed, were they mortal or immortal men ? Answer. — Mortal men. Thou hast answered wisely. Question.—Then that is the state the children will be made immortal in. First mortal man made per- fect, and then immortal man and God. How many lives is that? Answer. — Two. Question.— It is a life unto life, but if batan reigns what is that? Answer. — One life. (Question.— Tlieu how many deaths are there i Answer.— Two. i am douig this, that in asking questions other nations may understand, that the sheep may hear that Spirit; for unless 1 have that Spirit i am the weakest and most foolish and strange man. U his is no parable, for when others have their bodies 1 may bo nothing, and at last in the grave. JNow ye have read in the word that I was to take a sack and fill it full of smooth stones, and teem out the stones, and i)ick two stones out and call them one, and then gather up the rest. , n i Now when 1 have been to a i)laoo and gathered one, that one is to gather out the rest of the stones at that place, though tht re ho a groat multitude, that one will gather out the rest of the living stones troni the mingled seed. ,, , t i i Now when 1 was at New York I was commanded to return buck to Liverpool, and that hu that was I 134 with nie should return back unto Melbourne House, for that house was delivered into the hands of the world, and he was to demand possession of it, and pluck it as a brand out of the hands of the world. I had to keep this unto myself until 1 returned to Liverpool, then I had to declare it. And many a thing- shewn unto me by the Lord I have had to carry until I could declare it. I was commanded to write unto a certain man to meet me at Melbourne, and at my return to pick out four men, that they may be the standard for the whole planet ; and thcpo four men to have four writers, and that they should each choose their own, and these four shall rule the whole house of Israel. And this is the command of God, and I 'lave had it shewn in vision since I came here, that the man who travels with me, no member is to g^ive that man anything, and if he receive anything" he is to return and cease travellin<^. And the same is unto me, if I receive anything* from any member it is to g-o to the building of Melbourne House. There is to be twelve men who shall bo ruled by the four men, and twenty-four men who shall bo ruled by the twelve men, and seventy men who shall be ruled by the twenty-four men. I am shut out from meeting- with you these seventy days, for they are a figure of Tsrael beine!ieix that they havo been blind leaders of the blind. Now bear this one thing upon your minds. Josus 130 I' siiffcreJ all temptations — he was tempted as all other men. Did not Satan set him upon the pinna- cle of the temple, and ask him to fall down and worship him. I am doino; this that ye may escape all tempta- tions, for if thy eye be sinpfle thy whole body will be full of li^'ht, and thy children will overcome the tempter, then those of other nations will serve you. And this 1 tell you, those of the house of Israel •will not want another man's opinion, for that is like the nio'ht; for he j>'oes to one that is blind, and ^ets more blind than otlier men. Then if the Lord pros- j)er me will he not ye ? And he that rests upon ano- ther is like him that has got thino-s wronj>;fully, which must go. And those who do not doubt have immortality with them ; and though my body be meat for the fishes, yet will these words be found alive, for God will bring them to pass in them, and the Almighty will make them a branch of the living tree, and he will bo as a fruitful bough that runneth over the wall. Then how many states is there to that? Answer. — Three. Question. — Then tie first is mortal man, from the man of Satan. Then to perfect man and God to im- mortality how many is that? Answer. — Three. Thou hast answered wisely, so it is. Now there has been a deal said to shopkocpors, but 1 hope ye are loading a now life, for credit is de- manded W the whole creation. But it is said the house of Israel shall lend and not borrow. Now I ■will make a com])ari8on. llobert Farrand has a neighbour who is a customer, and comes, moaning to pay, and because ho is so ho gives him credit from day to day. Now I will make a comparison of two men, one fills his shop ac'cording to liis means, and the other ffives credit above his moans; and the one that fills his shop according to his means gives credit to that, 137 I 1 but the Olio who gets upon credit gives credit above hi8 means, and becomes as a fug-itive and a vagabond. And there are within these walls who will be wit- nesses of that, for those who do not give credit their basket shall run over. But this is credit, getting above their means. Now at the outside of letters ye are to give titles the same as the world, but in the inside use the Christian name ; for when a letter has past the Post Office they have said such a letter is an Israelite's letter, though they will yet open them. This man in America, who has arisen up as a prophet, and says he is as John Wroe was to Georgo Turner, he went to a bench of magistrates for an order for an officer to seize the writings, but they paid they could not do it without an higher power. But the parliament will yet search your houses, and all directions which ye now have ye will have to give up, for there are fresh airections, so that England shall not know the American, nor the American the English, but that every nation shall have their own, for this man has sent to all places in England and America where he had a direction for. A young woman that wanted to be my housekeeper has found him money. Tiie number four are to have the command of all nations, and of the twelve, and the seventy, that all may have understanding. And as the lean cattle devoured the fat cattle, so shall these words swallow up all prophets wlio are of Hatnn, and bring death unto life, because they come with n falsehood, and not the truth, for the Spirit is the f^'athoror of the people. Does not a branch receive virtue frcni the root? ThoFi if ye are all brought to receive virtue from the root whore is your prophet? And if a branch bo grafted into another stock what fruit does it bear? Aiiflwor. — Boar of its own kind. (Jiuostion. — itut if tho Spirit of Christ bo grafted into man, then ho lives, and boars fruit by that? .» ■ 138 Answer. — Yes. Man then dwells between the root and branch, and is then the God-man, and Jerusalem above is the woman that brings life, as man in the mortal life is brought by the woman; and there is something greater than all this, and I do not know that I should declare it, but all nations shall be subject unto them. Now I wish to be understood by ye shopkeepers as regards credit. If a man buys upon credit, and soils upon credit, does he not trust that not his own? But if it be his own can he not give credit to that amount, or buy ? Answer. — Yes. Question.— Then thee explain it to the people. Answer. — It is by not trusting out more than he can cover. Then if a man have ten thousand pounds he can go to that amount. Now I will make another comparison upon myself, lest I should give offence, upon employers and ser- vants. There is Benjamin Eddowes, I have him for a writer, yet he is at liberty to go home — he is not in bondage. The Lord has given him liberty to act free, for he is not in bondage to me, for the servant is to be as the master, but not above the master, asd this will not be in Satan's kingdom, Are we not under bondage of the Gentiles ?— but are not the liv- ing to be brought from under the bondage of their laws, for the Almighty will bring them out free. Now there was two debtors that owed different sums of money, they had nothing to pay with— ho frankly forgave them both. Now are these debtors for tlio living or the dead ? Answer.— The ('.ad. Question.— Where is the living — the two debtors wore forgiven? Answer. — Vos, both forgiven. Kiostion.— Wiiich is the Ln-catest debtor, the ono Q that is forgiven before ho dies, or the ono that is for given after? 1^9 Answer. — The one after death that dies. Question. — Then is it not said a seed shall serve him without repentance, and that sin shall be taken from them ? — then is their debt not taken away ? Answer. — Yes, if they do it not again. Thou hast answered wisely ; the debt is paid off for the living, and there is no debt against them for the sin of the ten tribes shall be sought for and not found. Ephraim shall not envy J udah, nor Judah Ephraim, for his wells run over. This is what is the command. If any one has a servant drawn to be an employer, whether it be a male or a female, let not the employer hinder them, for if they are in obe- dience they shall be helped. And that I may have strength to deliver the butter, the milk, and the honey, for all things are to come upon me the first J and if the Lord prosper me will he not ye ? I know what I shall yet suffer in London, which ray broken heart cannot declare unto you. Now this I speak with my head covered, and these keys in my hand, that when 1 return all laws that are by condition or permission will be done away with, and I tell ye this that I may be free of your blood. And when I return back to this land Eng- land, they who shall rule ye shall be chosen, and it shall then be seen who will follow that on condition, and those who will follow the straight and narrow way, for it will not be a crooked way, but a way that a wayfaring man sliall not err therein. With these words 1 bid you all farewell till God bring nic back. Written from John Wroe's mouth by iJonjr.min Eddowos. Ashtoiiy '3rd of 1th month, 1859. Inquiry respecting the length of vails, atul luiHwcr. All vails to bo measured according to the height 140 > ! of the person, that is to say by the following scale or allowance of five inches to every foot in lieig-ht of the person, but nothing* is allowed for any odd inches over a foot, and the lace trimming" to be measured in with the length of the vail ; and no vail to be less than two feet length, and the mark to appear four inches from the bottom. Second. — Is woollen allowed to be lined with linen, or confined to cotton ? And what is silk or linen to be lined with ? Answer. — Coats there shall be no tie on touching" linings, neither waistcoats nor trowsers. Silk, whether it is male or female, shall be lined with linen ; and all linen which is for sabbaths, and during" the seventy days, shall be lined with linen where tliey require it. And all silks of females' dresses are to be lined with linen or silk. (Signed) J. A. J. i I. To be put into the General Assembly's Guide. If a covenanted member commit fornication with a man's wife, or another man's daughter, he must go and confess it to that man before he can bo made free, if thoy be members, but if they be of the world they are not to confess except in secret. I To go into the Travelling Preachers' Guide. If a preacher be required to go above one hundred miles, then his expenses to be paid out of tlie trea- Bury of that body before being sent to the (Joneral Trensurcr. VVritten from John Wroe's mouth by nenjnmiii I'Mduwes. 141 Liverpool^ lijth of 7th month, 1859. Sabbatli hour. Question. — John Gill, who are the three men who are to prove circumcision, for when a man has cir- cumcised a man, or a child, they must have signed that certificate ? Answer. — I cannot answer. Is there not Enooch, and Elijah, and Jesus? — and did not Jesus say, " Moses gave you circumcision, not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers ?" John vii. 22. Three men will prove circumcision, both temporal and spiritual. They could not toueh John Bishop over circumcision, because his certificate was signed in England. Question. — Was the woman given to Adam in her clean or unclean state ? Consider it, and I trust that immortal Spirit will answer by thee, that the house of Israel may be strengthened. Answer. — In her clean state. Thou hast answered wisely, Jesus was the first, but she did not conceive. It was four generations — four thousand years. The seed became of Cain through Ruth, the Moabitess ; she was a black, and Moses married a black woman; and many of the Jews have played that trick, more among the black women than the Gentiles. Written from John Wroe's mouth by Benjamin Eddowes. The following communication was given in the meeting-room at Ashton, on the 3()th ot 8th month, 1857, and was commanded not to be printed until liis departure from England, which took place on tlio lUhofTHh mouth, 1859. 142 I hi] M * Mjacthig-room^ Ashton^ SOth of Sth month, 1857. Sabbath hour. There is one thing-, we may all rejoice to see the word fulfilled, where it says I will take the reproach from the house of Israel, and put it on the world. Now has not the beard become fashionable in all nations ? Now it says on this wise : If I be lifted up from the earth I will draw all men unto me ; now it does not mean this planet, but the earthly taber- nacle. The spirit Jesus, and the spirit Christ, had to be lifted from the body, that Christ might first take the soul and Spirit of Jesus to show the resur- rection. Afterwards Christ raised the body co ahow the immortal — he made it living earth. When in it he wrought all kinds of miracles, and he will draw the house of Israel into in. What say the prophets in the Scriptures : every tree shall be known by its fruit or its grain. There is difierent kinds of fruit — there is different sorts of grass. The whole house of Israel will be known by their dress. I stand here with boldness in the name of that Spirit. The raiment is the frait of the body^ and the inward monitor the fruit of the Spirit. The -apparel is to prove who are the king's children. Does he not say he will punish the king's children, and all that are clothed in strange apparel? Those that are in the Spirit will be in misery if not clothed in the apparel. Let every man wear what he likes, they will be known by tlie fruit they bear. Mem- bers are not to murmur at members about what they wear. Now if Christ be grafted into them, will they not all bear the same fruit, not ashamed of the beard- not ashamed with the clothing ? Christ first sliowcd the incorruptible, then the immortal, now he will draw all the house of Israel into the Spirit. There will bo no peace iu tlie nations till peace be estab- lished in the house of Israel. I thouglit my house was pledged; whatsoever wo have not wrongfully 143 ^ot is our own. Does he not say he will redeem them from the cares of this world ? Not many rich, not many nobles are called. Look what is said about the traffic in the house of Israel. If they trade with their own they shall be prospered both by day and ni^ht ; they shall be as a beacon, and the whole world shall acknowledge them. There are thousands of planets, and is not Jesus g-etting honour, but he had to die before he got that honour. Jesus was known by his work, and I know liis actions are alive in the house of Israel, but in the world he is dead, but the house of Israel are not to taste of death. Now I am waiting for that evil to serve me. Now when 1 get into that Spirit will it not serve me ? Is it not written, Get behind me, Satan; thou shalfc worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. I look back to see how many years I have served the evil, and not for the evil to serve me. If my own evil be subject to me I will subdue others. Have we not been servants of servants ? Is not the devil servant to God, and we servants to him ? We are partakers of the devil. This should open the eyes of the house of Israel. Has not Jesus a right to say ye are of your father the devil ? But has man a right ? Does not the Scripture tell us that the wages of sin is death to the body, and repentance is life to the soul, and the wages of sin is death ? Now if a man repent how is death the wages of sin ? Is not the devil the king of death? Ewery one that dies shall receive his wages in the resurrection ; them of the incorruptible will die if them of the immortal will live. I take all religions tlmt are worshipping, they are seeking to be protected ; he is God of the incorruptible and of the immortal. Is not every evil work dead when light shines ? If a man is brought into court, and the thing be false, is it not dead ? AT^,., 4r. oil r,o+Jona ihaxr nvfi flfltdcinfl' tO bo of the incorruptible God. The evil is now dead to the Louse of Israel; who put it not in action. Though 144 Josua was tempted lie swallowed it up, he did not conquer more than they did. They slew him — he died— he le^^t the bodj^ — he was not begotten of the evil, and he did not see corruption. Now I want us all, if we meet a man in strang-e apparel, say nothing to him, his own eyes will be enoug-h for him when he sees himself. We find Jesus was not subject to principalities and powers, and he was th - 1 i\. to the nn'tnbers. At Ashton I told nuMubcrh to pur- iiluxHv g'rain, they did hu, uud thereby gained. 149 Some may boast that John Wroe has done great things, but the Lord has made me do it, not me. Did ye g-et the money for it ? I liken it to the horse rider, who if he have a hundred horses with a halter round the neck of one, has as g-ood a command of the last as the first. The Lord will build a house and finish it. And the magfistrate comes with authority to know who was the architect. [Here John Wroe pointed to his forehead.] Upon the magistrate turning to his lady, who was in the carriage with him, said to her, " It's no use, we cannot get a plan of it." Now the walls of this building are up now ; then I ask thee whether the inward part is to be finished out of the tithe or by subscription ? All that are for the building to be finished out of the treasury stand upon their feet, and all they that are against it sit still. [All stood up.] I am glad to sen all in favour of it, and the rig-ht spirit is in thee. The trustees of all other places have signed a paper that the build- ing; should be completed from the treasury, and I re- joice to find ye equally willing, and in the right spirit, that no man may boast. Written from the mouth of John Wroe by Henry Witton. The same (late. What says the projdiet Daniel, (xi. 84, 35, xii. 10,) many shall bo purified and nuide white, and tried. The living witncHses for tiio law, Enoch, Elijah, and tloHUS (yhrist, who is king over all three mortal Hpirits, and three immortal spiritn, who are the six cliurohoB, and (Jod maketh the seventh. There is no nrcditor but God. A oortain lUftii liftd two sonB. iind there is a creditor with two debtors, and when ho Muid they had nothing to i»ay with he freely forgave I 150 ♦1 them both. Another Scripture reduces the debt, so much for the soul and so much for the body. Now he that repents and dies g-ets his debt rt- duced, and his body pays it, and he ^ets the salva- tion of the soul, and his body returned to dust as it was, and he rose in the resurrection with the soul, and formed the body with the spirit for the incor- ruptible life. The other debtor that never repented his body went. And when they appeared in the resurrection it was said to them on the left band, " Depart, ye cursed, into everlasting fire ;" both get their debts paid, one gets a spiritual body at the first resurrection, and the other at the final resurrection, but the living that seek the kingdom of God, though their sins be as scarlet, they shall be made white as wool; and as declared in John x. 27,28. And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish. And their fiesh becomes immortal. And I will remove their iniquity, and put a new spirit in them ; this is the Lorci s doing. Is there any other religion on the face of the whole planet who do not seek the advice of the doc- tor, the parson, or the lawyer, who are no more than dogs in consequence of wickedness. " Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and thev are shepherds that cannot understand : they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter." Isa. Ivi. 11. Written from the mouth of John Wroe by Henry VVitton. I ii MdhournVf 2bth of lOt/i mouthy 1850. Inquiries of Henry Witton. Some little misunderstandin^; among tlie nieniber? of our body having occurred relative to the singing of the tunos and chantn, as a musician and oomposur 151 I desire to submit for the answer of the immortal Spirit the following questions for our guidance. Question. — What are the twelve tunes in the society's music book intended for? There being" one hundred and seventy-six songs in the song book, a great many for which no music is provided, and we necessarily seek "the most appropriate. Answer. — Where they understand music they may sing one song in the book to any of the twelve tunes which is in the same metre. Question. — Is the teacher, conductor, or leader allowed to select the proper tunes best adapted for the words of the song ? Answer. — The leader is allowed to select any of the tunes in the society's music book. Question. — What part of the service are the chants to be used? Answer. — One of the chants to be sung for the middle song in the sabbath meetings. Question. — Is it permitted to set to music that part of the private word spoken of in pages 243 and 244 of the first volume ? Answer.— No one is to be permitted to do so, for it is a prophecy for a time to come. (Signed] J. A. J. Sanctuary^ Ballaraty '6\st qflOth mouthy 1850. I am glad to hear the newspaper rend which gives such an unprejudiced report ot us on Sunday, and the time is now come that freedom of religious worship will be tolerated in all nations, this being already determined on by England and its possessions. All that is said to you is it not to me also ? What shall it profit me if ye all gain the prize and 1 lose TT 111 liUb carefully preserve the seed that is given her, that she may bring it to maturity ? 152 The seed of the immortal Spirit is sown within you, but are any holding; a false thing in their heart? if so it shall hinder the birth. In my Father's house there are many states or mansions, but the glories of the God-man are the highest. The rich man is the dishonest man. Adam took that which was not his own. I am sent to establish peace among you, and I prayed the Almighty that he would choose all officers by moving on the hearts of the people ; one district shall not interfere with another. Trustees to be selected for their qualifications, and to be elected by ballot ; the judge and doorkeeper in like manner. .. i? *• All were requested to express their satisfaction with our present trustee by standing up, or otherwise by remaining seated ; all stood up. He then related how he was concealed by the Spirit during a storm of persecution by the creditors of the shop company, as also when a charge of ravishment was preferred against him. Here a calumniating letter against John Hyde was read, any person connected with it was solemnly charged not to deny it, yet all did deny it by standing up. He said I have sworn that man (the trustee) upon the Bible, to the effect that he has no other wife than his present one, nor has he had another at any time. Confidence in the female trustee voted by standing up like unto the male trustee. Let those sufferiug losses see whether they neglect prayer, or retain any stolen goods. Let -.s deliver up all our evil, that God may take full possession of us. Woe unto man who is afraid of man. None need complain of one female, as they have their choice of going anywhere to be made free. Peter boasted and fell, so shall all railors, or tUose that rejoice at a brother's fall. At a great meeting at Melbourne House from many parts, it whh deteprniritja tnat trio aOuie SiioUiU be finished out oi the general treasury. Governmont will open our letters to see the character of the 153 Israelites, and will exclaim, "Where is there a peo- ple like unto this I" Some who never givo anything- are like weavels in the wheat ; those whom the office bears are to be rooted out. All sanctioned the build- ing- to be completed out of the treasury by standing up. Turning to John Kyde, John VVroe said I charge thee in the name of God to establish branches that are distant a mile and a half. My departure will be to-morrow, part with all your evil, I pray God to enable you. When I had stolen goods on my pre- mises my cattle died ; wlien it is well with me it is well with the bouse of Israel. He then bade fare- well. Written from the mouth of John Wroe by Edward Jones. New Chum Gully, QOth of 10th month, 1859. This shall put away those laws now mentioned in the General Assembly's Guide, except it should be revealed from heaven to the reverse. A married male member shall not be shut out for his wife's faults, nor the female for her husband's faults, ex- cept it be proved b^ the moutli of tiiree witnesses that there is a conepiracy between the husband and wife to defraud the church of God. And it shall put out this law, of every third year being- a jubiloe, for the covenant sliall now be taken six years, and the seventh shall be a jubilee, in the which no covenant shall be taken, but a feast at that time shall bo hold to the Lord. And all mtMubers of tho cliurch within the limits of (iroat Urifaiii that havij just and lawful means, sliall go to Meii)nurno House on VVhit-8un- duv. IHni. if L<>i!)^ 'i>'Sf iiiliilun vnni> • iiixl nil members that have not just and lawful means shall not tfo, lest by so doing liiQy bring u reproach upou V 154 the church of God. And members in foreign nations ill the same manner must go at that time to the place appointed bj the trustee of their own district, for when the mortal life shall have received immor- tality, their blood being" made flesh, their breath then being" as the wings of an eagle, they shall rise and fly where the body is, for wheresoever the car- case is, there will the eagles be gathered together. (Matt. xxiv. 28.) The carcase being the body of Jesus Christ, and the house of Israel the eagles. (Signed) J. A. J. BaUarat, Slst of 10th month, 1859. John Wroe, in the presence of Thomas Procter and John Cartwright, spoke as follows: — I begged as much as possible of Thomas Eichardson, when with him the last time I was here, to buy no more land ; and be sure, says I, and sell what thou has as soon as ever thou can, for every thing will fall, and that so low that a many will be ruined. And I say now that the buildings on these diggings will fall down in the same way, and that in a very short time. And there will be parishes formed, and this I tell ye before it comes to pass. (Signed) J. A. J. Meethuj Ifoom, JJallaraty tilst of 10th monthj 1859. John WroG put the following question to John Ilvdo, trustee: — I ask thee in the name of God as follows : Will thou declare upon oath that no woman nna n\r<:ii* hnji n /«lii1tfl \\\t fliou t\ifi waa fnnn £^V€^V iiinr-i * • t*'-? V T V * • • -r- s rr • ■• ? ? t^? **' 7 VII "'-■"" 7 '-•£ *' \r-7 ■.------» -.,,,,- ...... riod to any other woman than this present one now with thee ? 155 John Hyde at once placed his hand upon the Bible, and declared that this woman, now his present wife, is the only woman he was ever married to. (Sig-ned) John Hyde, (Witness) John CartwrIght* The same date. Inquiry of Thomas Wilkinson, if the Lord be pleased to answer, through his messenger, part of the third chapter of Isaiah, beginning- at the twelfth verse to the end of the fifteenth verse of the said chapter. Answer. — Thy inquiry was answered and fulfilled before the Lord rested upon the body of the seed of the woman, and Satan worketh on thee to turn the word into another meauino-. (Signed) J. A. J. The same date. Thomas Procter inquires whether a jowellor, painter, or sculptor, when they join the house of Israel, are to give up the making of injaged, it being part of their trade ? Answer.— In the 2()th chapter of Exodus, 4th verse, it says thou shalt not make unto theo any graven iniage, or any likeiiesH. So a mechanic of any description, if making likenesses be his trade and his livelihood, lie is allowed to make tliom for the world, and he may trade and trallic with them as if he was trading with unclean cattle. Hut ho sliall not be allowod to soli to the members of the church, neither shall any member of the church be allowed iu any other manner than his trade being 150 his livelihood ; but if he make them for himself, or hang them up in his house, he is no longer a mem- ber. And any member in the church is allowed to keep the unclean cattle as well as the clean, and he may trade and traffic with them ; but they shall not eat of their flesh, neither use the blood of either the clean or the unclean, it being a law to the Gen- tile church as well as to the house of Israel. (Signed) J. A. J. Geelong, Urd of lltk month, 1859. To the Messenger of the Lord, If it be not contrary to the will of the Lord the God of Israel, I would hereby petition the Lord through thee his servant, to make thee an in- strument in his hands to restore my little boy Isaac, seven years old this month, to his speech and hear- ing, which he was deprived of through sickness about five years since. (Signed) John Stoneham. Answer. — John Stoneham must wait patiently until the refreshing be given. (Signed) J. A. J. The same date. This is the second time that the words of the Lord Lave been revealed to me, that Mary Tretheway is not to hold office either as reader or any other in the twelve tribes of the house of Israel, neither is she to have a vote in the affiiirs of the church, that lier moriai body may be preserved to put on imnior-= tality when it is given if she remain a member, and 157 this is to be sent to all places round the planet where there is a member or members, and her name to be entered into the doorkeeper's book. And this is to every other member in the same manner whose office is taken from them. Written from John Wroe's mouth by John Cart- wright. Geelong, 4:th of iltk morUh, 185&. An inquiry by the doorkeeper of Geelong body, Robert Hanington. Question. — I wish to know what is to be done with a covenanted member, he residing without the distance, who refuses to answer the doorkeeper's question as to whether he has kept his sabbaths, he having been absent from the sanctuary one or more sabbaths? Answer. — He must be shut from his sabbaths at the meeting-house or sanctuary where there is a body of people, until he does answer, and this is a law for all places, it is the case with all other officers. To be put in the guide for the General Assembly. (Signed) J. A. J. GceloiKjj 4kth of Wth monthj 1859. Sabbath hour. God commanded Solomon, the son of David, to build a house unto his name as a figure of man's body, and ho did so, and when Jesus the woman's seed came, what did he find when he went there after he was baptized in the river Jordan ? Behold, lie lounil lliey UlUU pll for gambling, buying and selling doves, and other i 158 making merchandise, and made scourge of smau corus, aiiu uruve mem ail uuv, owjmg my house shall be called a house of prayer, but ye have made it a den of thieves ; and did he not tell them that not one stone should be left on another, but that all should be thrown down. But he was speaking of his body as being the chief corner stone, and their bodies, which all had to die ; and after he was cruci- fied was not the temple destroyed, burnt with fire, and their bodies with it, for they could not escape ? Now with my keys in my hand, and standing on my feet, I have a command that no one speak in this place except when asked a question by an ofiicer, that is when ye meet to worship. I say ye have no right to come here to talk about vour silver and your gold, your diggings and your holes, and all your worldly concerns, making it a public house, if ye do so the house, your bodies, like Solomon's temple, will be destroyed. If ye want to talk go out of this place, go out into the fields or the highways, or talk at your own homes. Now this to be a law in this place, and every place where ye worship. Is not Jesus' second coming a mountain to the Gentile, and was not his first coming a mountain to the Jew? The book is put into the hand of the learned, saying read this, I pray thee, and he says I cannot, for it is sealed ; and it was delivered into the hands of the unlearned, and he said I am not learned. So the law being sealed is a mountain to the Gen- tile, and the gospel being sealed is a mountain to the Jew, but Israel shall now come from between those two mountains, that tliey may enter into life, the life of the body, and Jew and Gentile only save the soul. " For thou hast delivered my soul from death : wilt not thou deliver my feet from falling, that I may walk before God in the light of the 1 '- ing?" Ps. Ivi. 13. IS^ow it is said in the ibrmcr word that the nf ^s- papers should gather more than the preachers j now ' ! 1 159 this has been made a handle of, ye have made it a mouutam throug-h people not having- understandi^^^, passing- their own judg-ments, putting* their own in- terpretation without inquiring", and calling the preach- ing- swine's flesh. Now have the newspapers gathered any into the fold of Israel ? Now there is a prophecy long- since, that there should be a newspaper printed by the society of the house of Israel, 'and when it comes out it will g-ather more than the preachers of the com- mon salvation, for they do not believe it; they will g-ather none, for they cannot, but the paper will ; and ye are all to be preachers, and ye are all to be printers. Ye are all commanded to preach, and ye shall g-o out and not know what ye are saying-, yet ye shall preach, and gather into the house of Ismel. I know that I am speaking- that no writer can follow me, but what ye hear to-night ye shall see in print. Now ye are all preachers, every one of you, and say not ye are not learned. Preaching of the house of Israel will be as swine's flesh to the Gentiles, who are not of Israel, and the Gentiles' preaching is as swine's flesh unto ye. Now Solomon's house was built a fig-ure of the spiritual house, and the house now to be finished is a fig-ure of the mortal putting- on immortality, and those who^have not given a mite towards that house God will fight ag-ainst them. Now those who are willing- the money should be taken out of the trea- sury to finish that house, sig-nify the same by stand- ing- on your feet. [Every one stood up.] Now I am glad the Lord has given ye all one spirit. Did not the Lord give a law and statute unto Israel ? — and what he requires of ye the same is to me. Jesus' first coming was to be grafted into his death, now he is coming that Israel may be grafted into his life, and if ye abide not in the vine how can ye bring forth fruit ? So discern righteous 100 indffment; tbonoh my body be a horn to blow throujrli, I am no more tlinn ye it I abide not in the vine, that one immortal Spirit. Written from John Wroe's mouth by John btone- ham and William Bully. Geeloiifjy M of nth mouthy 1859. Inquiry of Jesse Taylor, who is so deaf that he has to do this by sioub of his fingers :— If I desire to o-We five pounds to Melbourne House, or send tiye pounds to the parish towards the 8Ui)port of my wife, can I do so or not? This is the answer :— When thou has paid thy ^ithe accordinjr to the rules of the church, and neees- earies for the support of thy mortal life, and thou hast anythinjr to spare, j,nve it to those whom thou art inwardly wroujrht upon, then it and thee shall prosper, but if thou give it to another man's opinion It shall not prosper. Thou write to the parish, and tell them thou hast not got means to convoy thy wife here, and also state thy situation touchinpf thy not beinff able to do anything: but by sipis. This same is to be a law for the whole twelve tribes, and placed in the guide for the 0- leral Assembly. ^ (Signed) J. A. J. Geelontjy (Mh of nth month, lS5d. Jolni Wroe, addressing the half membciB, said. Though yo wear your hats on in the sanctuary, when ye go into a church or chapel take them olf, it is only when yu worttliip during the hour yo wear ii\ein. Then addressing the whole of tiie members, ho said, Ye tomo here to get an underatanding heart, and an 101 eye to see, but how can ye see with th e mortal eye, but wlien ye get the immortal eye ye will see all When I pay my just debts what am I like?— am "ot a free man ?— but while I am in debt, trading" and trnlhckmcr with another man's money, and not my own, am I not another man's servant, and not my own, and art thou not in fear, for has he not power to cast thee into prison? but if thou trades with thine own tliou art a free man, and n man's servant. So if thou keep the l; vs art thou not a free man unto God? If a man be ju debt, and the creditor come upon him, be he ever so honeb. he would loso It all. So it is not every one that is able to hold othce, or handle money. Heboid, there was a man ill ofHce, and he said the Lord had made him head of the church, and he o-ot the money criven for the house, and behold he ]>nrchased land witli il, think- ing to make more money. He had pk'nty of land and was told to sell his land by the word of "the Lord| but he did not hearken to that word, and tiie Lord has taken it all from him, and brouolit him into bonda^re; but let no man cast a stone at him, lest it return back on your own heads; and he that rails on another it shall return double upon him. Now I take the whole power of this meetinm, sayino-, perhaps your (lod is asleep, or on a journey; then Elijah wns called to oiler his, and (lod commanded 1.',t'. i- ti]\ i\... i......„l ..,.....,1 4I.., nlre Hubjeot to him. The learned could Lot i!.(jind bdore hiii'i, and when they came to take him, nnd he said whom seek ye, and they said desus, he said I am ho; they all fell as dead men before him to the o-ronnd, the "hour not haying- come for his blood to be shed, but wlion th© vision left him ho was delivered into tlieir harulH, for he had fold them one nmon^r tliem should betrny him, and ho went with them, nnd they took him be- fore Pilate. We find Jesus broke none of their laws, and yet thny orioa joj. tho law to be made 1 fttiwnji lu mom nnd they wanted him to be put to death for keeping the law; they knew they had no law lo put any man 164 to death, for the sceptre had departed from them, I am stopping' that the writers may come up to my words. They cried unto Pihite, and what did tiiis judge, made by tlie Roman Emperor, say? Did he not say I find no fault in him ? Then they said thou art not Caesar's friend ; and his wife had a dream, and said unto him, have nothing" to do with that just man. Now he was afraid of tlie people, afraid of losing* his office, so he scourged him, and delivered him to the people to be crucified, and on the third day ho rose again, and shewed himself forty days; but what was he then? — he was immortal like Enoch and ]!]lijah ; he could not die, the Spirit was hid life, not blood, and his breath was his wings, and he could rise as the clouds, and guide himself wliere he chose among the people, but after this he entered into im- mortality, God and man ; and when he was taken away were not tlie ])eople without a vision, and so })orished, so have become as the two debtors, one owing tilty, and the oth(M' five hundred ptMiee, and when lie saw they had nothing to pay he frankly forgave thorn both. Now there are ditlorent statr.s for man, a thousand years ditferenco in the resurrection to an angel's life, anil a thousand between those who live for the aliens, who are the tenants to the redeemed, tliey see tlie virion, but walk not ir» it, yet tlu'y live a thousand years, and I lien are nuide perf(>ct men, their bodies never perishing; l)ut they who walk as .lesus walked in the vision, will bo as ilesus is, both Ciod and man, tnu'h receivino- according to tiieir vvorkH. Now tlien who is prej)ared to enter into the vii*ion? I am no more than ye; every one who is out of the vision has the fear of man on them. Now I will try myself, lest 1 give oll'onco to those around. 1 went to a hous(», saw some pictures hanging )>p, and I tu.rned their laces to tho wall; whon 1 went oiiJiiu they asked why I did so, for they wanted to look at them i 1 said 1 hud not taken them, only turned 105 them to the wall, that thej shoiiUl not look at tliera, tor they worshipped the creature more than the Creator. I was commanded to go to Rome, in Italy, and enter mto their churches, and tell them they could not for^rive sins. I saw an old woman, and she said the priest had power to do so, and forgave her all her sins. No man laid hands on me while I was in the vision. I went to Vienna, a Jew overcame me as I was permitted to overcome them ; he called me brother, and wheedled me round, and he g-ot the matter out of me, how I was commanded to anoint Buonaparte, got out of me what I was to keep secret, and 1 had not g-one twenty miles when we were stopped by teleg-raph, taken prisoners, and stripped of all our clothes, our boxes searclied, and writino-g examined but thev found nothino- to g"ive them power over us' and so let us oo. ' le have all to ^'o the same road as me, so try to bo kejit in the vision by w.'iIkiiijLr in the lawn, and ye shall be delivered, but if ye keep not in the vision, but break the laws, yo shall be taken i)riaonei's bv death. *^ Ye shall not have two wives ; how many have I been made an instrument in dividiiio' who have taken two wives, and it sbiiU be a law in tliis p.-irh'aniciit that a man shall have but one, but this is at present trampled under foot. JJehold, my time is nearly up, my p-lass nenrly run out, and 1 must ^ive an account either for the incorruptible or the immortal. Th(>re are two cliurches, Jew and rientile, which are one for the iiicorrui)tihIe in the resurrection, and the church of (iod is tlio other, whicii is for immor- tality, jiud thou^rh their deeds be as scarlet they shall be as white as wool, those whoso deeds have been crossed out. Wjint are the preachers of Jew and Gentile ofatliering, are they not the incorruptible? JVow then wo couio to the preachers of the ro- t ' IGG demption of the body, which is as swine's flesh io both Jew and Gentile. that I had but y writer, God has permitted it ; he travelled with me in Amer- ica, but pride puffed him up, and pride carried him away. How beautiful are the feet of them that preach this word of God, and they that hear it press in to put down their names in the book of life, but it say8 the newspapers shall gfather more than the preach- ers ; the preachers of the common salvation preach ag-ainst it, and gather none. Now to ye preachers, when I cease the Lord shall beg-in, but how ehall ye preach except ye be sent ? And when the king-dom of God is preached, behold, all men who are of Israel shall prei^s into it. And ye are now all commanded to preach ; the Lord has shewn me my faults and failino-s, but how can the house of Israel hear without a preacher, and there is a great reward for a i)rracher. Written from John Wroe's mouth by John Stone- ham and William Bully. On hoard the stemner Om,co,froni Malbourne to Ade- laide j Saturdaij crcnim/, 12 fh of lllh monthj 1859. TliG steward asking John Oartwright what the name of the society was that ho belonged to, he an- swered that it was called the Christian Israelites. The steward then said that is tiie Latter Day Saints. John Oartwright said no, the Latter Day Saints are the Mormons. So the above conversation led to more. A follow ))as8engor with us aijkod mo if wo believed in our Saviour? 1 told hihi \yo did. lie then enid he had often asked this (question of diflerent j)e! ions, but could never got it nnswered, which was, it ic* cusier for u camel to go through the eye of u need?,) than 1G7 When John Wroe commenced, pointing out to him that It was a parable, and that this saji no- of Jesus' did not allude to a man havino riches of silver or gx) d but It had reference to a man having- anythincr not his own ,f it were ever so little he miVht hav", fnir!! ' H ^ 7-7 ^r«"\t''^ P^r«o« who had it ten told ot that which lie had g-ot honestly, havino- Wroug:ht hard for it The kingdom of hea/en is Ihal immortal Spirit whi.h Jesus entered into at the river Jordan and no man can enter that same Spirit while the evil is with him. ^ I do not know whether this man was satisfied or not, but this 1 know, that he li.Mtened as if filled with wonder and it appeared to take away the attention of all the rest m the cabin from where it was at first directed and there was a solemn silence, and all eves appeared to be rivetted upon John Wroe. (Si^nied) J. A. J. Adelaide, Uuh of 11th month, 1859. An inquiry of John Kerney, trustee, of Adelaide district. As the sanctuary of Gawler Town is falling- into a state of ruin, and there being- no members to take care of it within several miles, and the thinrrg be- onj^mg- to It had to be removed to save thenrfrom being- taken away, what is to be done with the sanc- tuary I Answer.— The tnisfees of this pwvince that re- main as in^mbers of tho twelve tribes surnamod Israelites, let them sell it, ground and all, and p«t the money into the savings' bank in their own names as trust for the society surnamed Israel, and let it ~ '"^-.vcv vunariiB uuiiding anoiiier sanctuary where one may bo hereafter wanted. (Signed) J. A. J. I 108 I?:. t' > Collirtgn'ooclj ISth of llth month, 1859. Sunday evening. I am tlie vine, ye are the branches. In the first place who is the vine? There are two, man and God. Did not God say to the woman that her seed sliould overcome? Now he descended and rested on the woman's seed. God is the vine, and whosoever it resteth on the same is God ; yet the blood were to be (f-iven for the woman's transgression, but the blood could not be shed until the vine left him. At twelve years of ag-e he beoan to shew authority, still subject to his parents, he wanted no purg-ino*. Ye see the two sets here, one is cast into the fire, and one is not. Then who is to be purg-ed ? Will ye purg-e the vine? And that is not possible. Death reifj-ned over them w^ho had not sinned after the sim- ilitude of Adam's transg'ression ; tluit transgression is no parable to them of believing hearts, and the purging is the knowledge of that transgression. 1 am sent to the sowers, that they may sow good seed, that is bring forth a hundred fold. Now is it the man that is to die that is to be purged ? God says he will take the iniquity of Israel away ; it shall be sought for and not be found. Thjn what difference is there between Jesus and them ? He says if ye were of the world they would love you, but as ye are not of the world they hate you. (^hiestion.— Those that are nv . grafted into the death of Jesus, are they justified at the first resur- rection ? Answer. — No, not till the final resurrection. lie does not sav ye are to ofibr the mortal life for Adam's transgression, but ho says your mortal life shall be made immortal; this is the love we are going to show our (jreator, to lay down our evil. The woman was the first in the transgression, and she will be his instrument at the last to take it away. Jew and Gentile do not agree, but the woman's 109 Beed and vine they both agree. The way that fJn^ cleanses the house, Jew and^Gentile wiuZt believe but the Israel of God will believe it, those who are the outcasts of Israel, and the dispe^ed of Judah Are we not called out from those who take things which are not their own ? This is Adaml tmnl ffr'T.- ^''r '"',' ■"■« "f« th™«gl» what Adam hi'-al^^f^^^dil^..""^ ^-* '- -^ •>^- Jesus IS the seed of the new world, and every one imjuruf"-"^^"' ^'^'^''^ ^""^ ■" *« P»"'y °' «,«t°»n r^^^Tf ?^ "'^ P""*y of the black wo- man, and yet not black. They say tlie ten tribes are gone to a land where never man dwe t; but is not thil a prophe";, dfd no? Jesus dwell m that land ? r r j, u uuu A short time will prove me whether I am servino- lor an mcorruptible or an immortal body: there are only those two for me. What is the first resurrection ? Soul and Spirit are both raised to show and give an account of how they lost their body. fhl 'r^^} r"" •' *"^'° ^T] ^°"' ^"* ™^y ™y words that God has given me abide in you and me. Now the ime IS come that ye shall not know your breth- ren till they put on immortality. I am seeking my own interest, not yours. He will squander ye that are gathered till they brinff in their brethren, so ye will bo squandered over the face of the planet. Now then wo must part, whether I bid farewell to you or not that I leave, but I know it is but as a moment that I shall be brought to you, either incor- ruptible or immortal, but I do not want to come un- jvcn Hi Hie xiiuiiurim Dpirit. The iViiit of the woman is the seed of God, tho other IS tho seed of Satan. Every wicked man, his 170 seed g-oes downwards, but the livincr shall take hold. and shall no bear fruit downwards, but shall I mon take root and spring* upwards. Now I will com,; to ye ieinales : there is the roar- ing- of Satan; tl\ re is one thing- to overcome, which is passion. Every woman that cannot guide her own passion cannot be a mother in Israel. What is to be done with the woman that cannot guide her own temper ? ^ I have seen in vision an horrible sig-ht about ye females, some of their children would not take the covenant, and the mothers tore their hair off their head. The wife blamed the husband, and the husband the wife likewise, and they follow the spirit till they come into the spirit. This is the mig'hty work of Jehovah above all other gods. That Spirit which Jesus dwelt in raised the dead, Jesus did not do it. He did not want the woman to be affrighted when he appeared to her with a spiritual body. Question.— Elizabeth Thileman, now I want to know what state of mind thou wast in the next morn- ing, were thou sorry ? Answer. — Yes. Thy husband came with thee, he supported thee. Question.— Dost thou blame thyself or thy hus- band ? Answer. — Myself. Question.— Dost thou think thou art fit for that office or not, and thou canst not rule thy passion? Answer. — Not lit for the office. Question.— Thou thinks thou art not fit for thv office ? ^ Answer. — No. I believe one thing, that thou art honest, and I am glad to say so. (Question.— Esther Tulk, how many children hast thou ? Answer. — Two. Qncstion. — Does paesion overcumo thee ? Answer. — Yes. 171 Then thou art not fit to rule over childr 'en: it terrible thing- when a child g-overns ita parents. Question.-- Louisa Williamson, thou art female doorkeeper I guess ; dost thou get in a passion ? Answer.— Sometimes. Answer.—Yery seldom. *1.I® ^k""^?^ ^'^""^ ""^ "^^* *^ ^«^<= «^"Wren after they submit, from one to ten years of age, and then theie IS two years to prepare for the covenant. submTttd?*~ ^''''^'^ ^^^ ^^""^ ^ ""^'^^ ^^^^^ '^ ^^^ Answer. — No. Question.— Not to be beat if submitted ^ Answer. — No. ^ How can ye females shew a good light to five or SIX Hundred females ; when ye cannot rule your pas- sion ye cover your light; "let your light so shine before men." The people of other religions will say, How cannot we walk as these people walk ? It is because they ask amiss. I want thee to try to over- come these passions. What I say to one I say to Now Elizabeth Thileman, thou hast lost thy office, but not till thou see it in print. * !1^^' '^?i!!" ^'^^'^'^'^ I J^'^^'e a word or two to say to thee. Ihou hast been ovorcome with temper, and been lifted up with this music aHair, and been set, as It were, on a pinnacle. Now tliou art the best reader I have over heard. Now thv office is taken irom thee, for a reader is an office now. Thou hast been surrounded by poverty on every side, and thou will have liard trials. Now thou art not shut out of the churcli, but if thnn walkost aright thou wilt be restored back, and received with joy,'and at that day thou wilt know who saith these triinos. I speak to thee with my head hand. ;ovorud, and these keys in my 172 Now ye must put up four, and choose one of them as a reader hy ballot. Now I want ye to brinrr your instruments. Written from John Wroe's mouth by John Par- ker and Johii Williamson. Collingwoody I8th of Uth month, 1859. Two o'clock meeting. He has chosen us, and we have agreed to it. Then shall we desert? We who have taken the covenant have hired. The friends of the bridegroom hear him. If ye do what I command you ye are my friends, flocks of my pasture. They think it strange at places where I go to when I say that Jesus fell Irom the vine, but it was the vine which withdrew Irom him, but yet his body did not see corruption, and his body was crucified that our evil mig-ht be crucified His mortal life, which was the blood, was shed that the whole house of Israel may have the immortal life of their mortal bodies before the resurrection. Some say bring up a child as a Jew and he will be a Jew, but they will find their mistake out. So now It IS the outcasts of the ten tribes that are now being gathered, and the two tribes will stand stiiF to the last. Every one that goes to the grave are grafted into Jesus death, especially them that believe on him. And there is one text I am to preach upon at all places where I go to, and that is, " I am the vine, ye are the branches." John xv. 5. He does not bid us to repent. What then 1 He bids us to forsake that winch they have been doing. The foreskin of the man that stands before you was eont to many synagogues, still they would not 173 believe and it is still preserved in a glass as a wit- ness in the end. Every branch that abid* a not in him he casts off casts into the fir.. Tlun ought not the law to be engraven on our hf .v% that we may know how to sow seed? Fort- anJ : 70 years will the law be re- hearsed, and forty and Iwo years for us to know how to sow seed. Rememnor, man, what state Adam was m when God gave him his command : the com- mand was given to him before he took a body I may go throiigh, but I am no more than a far- mer who takes a team of horses to turn the soil. 1 hen let me not put a stumbling block before you it IS only your children that are born in the cleanness tnat shall be heirs of the immortality of the body so do I »ayand mean. this is horrible, but I mean so ! I say so in the name of God. There are men that never sowed in the uncleanness, and there are some women that would sooner have their heads cut oil than let a man have anything to do with them m that state J and this is even among the blacks, the Ishmaelites. ' Now then use the last prayer ye have got as often as ye will, and ye will obtain for from the beffinnino- of Genesis to the last of Revelations, the substance 18 in it, and ye could write it with a pencil on your thumb nail. '' I am come to tell yo^ something : as the moon, when coming to full, increases in light, so does the house of Israel. There are some standing in the midst of you that shall see this. When the flood came the water prevailed over the earth fifteen cubits, and the Lord set his bow in the heavens as a sign that he would not destroy the world any more and he says he will set his Spirit in man. ' Written from the mouth of John Wroe by James Munro and Thomas Hannaford. :|1 i 1 174 r}^/^^/' Plenty J Victoria, 20th of lit h month, 1859. I, James Wilson, of Melbourne body, after I bad been afflicted with rheumatic pains for the space of ten years; during- the greater part of that time I was past working*, as the doctors hud me under their hands, who nearly killed me with mercury and sul- phur ; but now I return thanks to the God of the living- for his mercy towards me, in healing" mo through his servant, John Wroe. (Signed) James Wilson. Collin fpwod, 26th of llth month, 1859. Siibbatli lioui riierc is a deal of people think they can put away a wife, and marry another. If a man i)ut awny hia wife ho cannot marry another. This is a g-reat mis- take about putting* away women, they that do this are bringinjr themselves to tlic grave. Every ono that wants to put awny their wife are bringing* (leath. If a woman bring- fortii before the time it is gener- ally death. J low much more the other way? I want you to observe ono thing*, ho that loves mo keeps my commandments. The (ientiles cannot say they love him except they keep his commandments. Now there was to be no iieavier burden tlian tiiis. John Wroe asked John Carlvvright to tell thcni what it is, and he Paid to abstain IVom blood and things Htrangk)d, v'^e. (Acts xv. l\),2().) It' yo are not of tbo world the world will hate you. If we <>*o down (o the grave we make friends with the mam- jnon of unrigliteouHnoHS. Thus aaitli the Lord (iod of Israel, every man that comes to worship Hhali vvor-lii«> with his head uih covered. As touching the (untiles where Christ is speak- 175 ing", be saith g-o not in the way of the Gentiles. Thus saith the Lord, every man shall be silent when he comes to worship, except giving" answers to questions put by officers. Why should members pretend to be Jews and walk as the Gentiles walk? You must keep the laws of the Jews. I know it is but as a moment when wo shall meet either in immortality or incorruption. Art thou aware if thou puts away thy wife thou puts away Christ? And every woman her husband puts away Jerutsalem, her sister. And if you be serving- for the incorruptible I have done with you. I am come to preach to the immortal ; I know he Jiat wants to put away his wife hates God. How can a man love God that hates his own flesh ? Then if we are true to each other we shall serve our God, not the incorruptible, but the immortal God. What does he say to Satan: From whence comesfc thou from walking- up and down the stones of lire? Now then you that go out to preach are not to preach the common salvation, ye aro only to show the life of the body, for wliere there is one proof for the salva- tion of the soul there is one hundred for the body. On reading- the law concerning asking another man's opinion, Jol-n Wroe said it is transgression of the law that has caused this law to bo made. If a king goes to war with another, and asks his men's opinion if he will gain the battlo, is he lit to go to war ? On reading the poor law act, John Wroo said they must he relieved out of the general treasury. God has chosen mo to ho a guide to all the lionso of Israel. (Question. — Jeremiah INrelbourno, what would you think of me if 1 nsk another man's opinion, wouhl you think I was fit for a mesHongor? AuHwur. iSo. And a judge is a pretty man to bo a judge if lio QSkS the HiCiiiiJUrs auViCO. ii a niall WUnis to UiS' pose of his wife ho siiall soon bo disposed of. Question. — William Perry, if thou do as tho Hcrip- 'I li n 17C t whether will be ruled by man ures sa God? Answer. — By God. Thou hast answered wisely. Question. — William Perry, if thou g-oes amouff the Gentiles do not they all diff*er? I want an an- swer. If I g-o to this man's writing or that man's writing-, am I ruled by man or God ? Answer. — Not by God. Thou hast answered wisely. Now then I turn to thee, Henry Witton. Thou wilt have to separate from this woman or leave the church, for what business hast thou in the same bed with her? You cannot be in the sabbath hour without cloth- ing- made to the last command. You can wear what you like to suit the branch you are in. There is to be no preaching- to members. Now then, observe these words are a witness to ye and me. You that think there is no vision from heaven leave the church, and you will soon see there is a vision. You are getting^ things now you will not be able to hold, for Satan will try and snatch things from you. Wo should always consider whether we can take a full cup or an empty one. And a man that is a drunkard g-oes headlong to the grave, for when a man is drunk he has lost his facul- ties ; but who is this drunkard ' The man that makes a continuance of drinking tiil drink takes no effect on him. Now there are to be four trustees, and the wholo work is to be laid on them. Now then there is to be a battle, and if you, Allen Stuart, are able to overcome ton thousand, then you are able to go and preach this gospel. There is to be one hundred and forty-four thousand redeemed from amongst men. NnW i].tttl if *'!'•»•• «l.:..l. lt.^.~ ~-L „l.l_ 1 ___4. ^-.- 1- ii vti'jix nsjiiik hinm iuh jiuiu, iiiui nrfc engaged to bo one of his soldiers, stand upon thy feet and answer. If you had him for a commander 177 could tlion not ^^^o against ten tliousanj ? The ira- mor a are the soldiers of the livinc. God, the other the soldiers of mammon. Nor shall one ask another IrJuirT.''^'^''"^'^ ^^'''' '' "« preacher fit to ^>-o to battle that g-oes to another and says, "Do you think wo shall fe.nin the battle?" Are we afraid of our deeds beinc. published ?--if we are we are no soldiers of Christ. Christ's soldiers will not be cow- ardly and a preacher will not study his text, it shall flow faster than he can speak it. I had to work till the blood run at my finrrers' ends and some of you shall be in the same state, this 1 tell you before it comes to pass. Recollect when 1 leave you ye will have my burden to carry that I have borne for many years. Many would make an inquiry if he could o-et the answer privately to himself. God has ojven man his fepirit to dwell in, but will yo be tauoht? AVill you c-o to other relioions to be taught, o? will ye iro to the living God? What do you want with itlL men s wnting-s ? What do you want with Johanna's writings or (.eorg-e Turner's writinos? Or if you follovv John Wroe, behold, you will go to the gravel Jho first three years I was visited my carcase was only fit for rotten eggs and human dung, and many of you will have to bear the same, but happy are yo if they do. '^'' ^ Written from John Wroo's mouth by John Par- ker, James iMunro, and Thomas llannaford. I CoWt' ' , ,W, 27/// of 1 1/// moNfh, 1859. Bc'Coro the snbbath Iioiu. Thorn is a gn^at i-onfusion in some places about these olhecji. it is a gront biossing of tin} Aiinighiy to Uko them out of their ofiieos t^\o<«pt the LonVa Spirit be with thorn. If a man looks hack does ho I I 178 not go to tlie ^rave ? — he enters in at the wron^ door. Now the Lord has g-iven a prayer to the whole creation, for them to see if he will not answer. (Signed) J. A. J. The same date. Sabbath hour. Now if any of you be carpenters, and ye go to make a rough model, then afterwards a smooth model, for every thing is carnal that is contrary to life. How is it that they will believe a lie ? It was roported by (Toorge Turner that a man may have two wives. And there was a man by the name of Smith, belonging to Manchester, that set up a standard, which was a lie. Now every woman will have two husbands, but only one to be handled, and every man two wives, and only one to be handled. The first baptism is for the death of the body, the second for the life of the body. There are several nations where they can have as many wives as they can maintain. Now 1 tell you in the name of God that there shall be no such laws in England, there shall be no such laws under the Lion. Lot your light shine be- fore the world, that they may sou that God is with us. I did not givo you that prayer, but it was given from above, believe it or not Ibehovo it. Now have yo not good reason to believe wliat John Wroe saith?— but have ye not the weights and scales to weigh thorn? Then do as I sny in the name of God- weigh it with the law and gosjxd. If the Lord shows a thing to mo, am 1 to ask you tho meaning of it? {^ufmtion. — Vv'^iilinm Perry, if I bo a mo^sengor, and should tho Lord show me u thing io vision^ and 179 I come to thee to ask what it means, whether dost thou think I should be obeying- man or God? Answer. — I do not think you would be obeying God. d 3ly. Thou hast answered wiseJ^ Now the man of sin is to be crucified, and let us ask in prayer for him to be crucified. Now to those who have not made a covenant with the Almighty, are we to be at envy with them — are we not to show them an example ? On giving out the second chant, John Wroe asked John Cartwright what is that garden? Answer. — The immortal Spirit. Question.— I ask thee in the name of God what is that garden? Answer. — The body of Israel. John Wroe said if thou be one of the seed of Israel art thou not that garden? Whilst reading about the two dobtors, John Wroe said wore they prepared for soul or body ! Answer. — Soul. Now look at difr smoke? A proper brand gives no smoko like chareou' ; where th(»re is smoke there in death. Now then I will give tboe one night to find ont the riddle, and thro John Cartwright tell it to tbo people; the trees that give fruit are they not known by th(»ir fruit what tree tiiey come from ? A womnn^ that has .lorusalem above shall bring forth fruit of horsolf. Some boliovo that the body will be nxmni again. T\w Jews said In^ crioR out for IVlius, let us SCO whether Elian will come to save hiui. r 1 180 ^ Now death ? are not all commanded to This is the narrow road. come Now out it is from Baid that it is easier for a camel to go throug-h the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven, not the kingdom of God. I will make a comparison of John Wroe, if he has got some stolen goods in his place, tlmt is the rich man that cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. John Stoneham was appointed to an office, and though his name was in the book not to hold an office, and then he said am I not appointed by God ? Through this man Cartwright saying -he was a likely man I put him up, and I am the man that i« held in bondage for it. AVritten. from John Wroe^s mouth by John Par- ker, James Munro, and Thomas Ilannaford. Colli n(/iroo(f, 'Jltli of 1 Ith nHUif/i, lSij{). Five; o'clock meeting", John Wroc, addressing Henry Witton, said, Now 1 am not going to take the scat of judgment, J. am going to make thee the Judge. Suppose 1 was in thy cnso, and had a wife living, and hud another elncwliere, what society should 1 l)o lit for do yoii think/ — because wo are gei)arn(ed, am 1 to go to (ako another woman and sk^ep in the same bed with her? Now then I am an unmarried nnm, 1 take a lionse- keeper and lie vvitli lier, if she prove with child ho can deceive man, can't he/ AuHWcM'. -He cannot deceive (lod. Question.- What society is lie lit for? Answer.— lie id not Ht for this society. Is he fit lor any society? — is lie fit for tlie Metho- dists? He may do for tlie Latter Day Saints. Now tiioii hrint past Heiaeneo on thysulf, ns thou Mays thou art not lit fur this souiut^. I cunuot cou- 181 domn thee if 1 am g'uilty of this myself, but I am not guilty of these things. What am I to do with this woman if I have got her with child? Thou says he is not fit for this society. Now which way am I to go ? Now then 1 want thee to give mo an answer. The thing is this, he may have her for a housekeeper, but if he does not keep free from her. he is not fit for the church of God. In former ages they were to be stoned to death, but now he turns them out to the world to make friends with death. Can you give me an answer what is to be done with such a man ? Now then I should like thee to pass sentence on thyself, and there is not an island that stands out of the water but what will hear of this. Answer. — I am willing to obey all the laws as regarding the church. (j),uestion. — Did thou not promise not to lie with her 'i Answer. — I did. Question. — Hast thou done so? Answer. — I have not. If thou will not pass sentence I will, until thou can prove that thou hast only ono wile living thou art shut out from the church. Now thou wilt have to take thy hat and walk out. He then went out. Ye are all to observe one thing. If a man tnkes the covenant he cannot become a halt' niomber. Now the doorkeepers know of this at all places round tho planet. As regarding singing, this is come of God. Thero will be two hymn books, one for the house of Israel, and tho other the Song of Songs to bo sung during tho seventy days. There are twelve chnnta to be the middle song ot tho service in tiie sabbath meetings, and the twelve tunes are for tho sabbath meetings wliero they can sing them ; it will bo a small book for tlie church of (Jod, but the other for the preacher for tho ingathering from tlii! world. I iiovv begin with preachers, and any member can >..' 1 182 have four pounds worth of boolis to ^o to the cities and villages round ; this is even to wives and children if both sides are members. Tlioug'h ye are local preach- ers they shall be cliosen to g-o to preach. Some men do not care what expense they put others to as longf as they can put their hands in their pockets. Now when I travel I put my hands into your pockets. I am glad that I handle no money. I have robbed this carcase many times touching my own body. Do you think I am satisfied with Cartwright? If any one has invited him to preach to night stand upon your feet. [None stood up.] I declare in the name of God I have not invited him, but if God has chosen him he will work his wr*j through ; if aiij one has invited him let him pay his expenses. God says he hates a covetous spirit ; then he hates me. But is he not able to take it from me? And let me seek God to let the part that is in me serve God. I wish these words were engraved in all our hearts. This is the state with the man that travels with me. Then why covet it? He is coming here this night to serve Satan, and not Satan him. Now it is evil that putis up. See how ho set Jesus on a pinnacle. The Lord has promised to come to the house of Israel, and has chosen thtni as his house; and seventy sliall rule tlio whole one hundred and forty-four thousand ; though the tempter be there, there is one that shall ovt^reome. I am often invited to go to this place and that place, but I am sent to the house of Israel, 1 am not sent to go see peoph-'s gardens. Jf wo dwell in spirit the devil has no power. If an officer sees he cannot do let liim bo honest to himself; if he cannot trust another lot him deliver up. Jesus, when in Ciirist, (lod's Spirit declared that whicii should come. IIg snys of the house of Israel, " I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world;" this was before they were born of a woman ; 1 prny for those whom thou hast given me. Now tlie sixth church is the lirst houae. Ouirht 183 not a man, when be takes an office, to seek God day and nio-ht ? " If ye abide iu me, and I in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you." He had to die for Adam's transgressions, then they abode in death. If a Methodist does not do the work can they abide in him? If ye be in his life you may ask what you will, and it shall be done for you. Is there not three, and who are this three ? If a man abide in his life, and his life abide in him, is he not three, and the woman three, and God is the seventh ? Now all that dwell in him shall be a horn to blow throug'h ; the roaring- of a hungry lion is very fierce, so is that preacher that dwells in him. Question.— Thomas Hannaford, how many births are there ? Answer. — Two. First thou art born of a woman, second of the spirit ; the next chanoe to be immortal, and then im- mortality, wliich is four changes for a man and four for a woman. (Signed) J. A. J. Sanctmrfj, llohart Town, Tasmania, 2nd of I2th monthy 1800. On reading the communications for full members, dated Sanctuary, New York, 8rd of 0th month, 1859, 'pages 2nd and ;3rd :— We are going to be proved whether we are grafted into his life, for he says as I have overcome death so shall yo, because they are called in the regeneration to immortality ; the rest are not the sheep, still the Lamb of God took sin r|«egtiou to thoe : away, vet a number perished. Now Jonn i^HiL»ii^"i, i i^wv vine • H.' 184 How did Jesus overcome death, for he died ? This question is to me as well as thee. Answer. — I cannot answer. Question. — Did he not overcome the second death ? Answer. — He did. He overcame death for the souls of men ; he over- came the sentence of death. Every soul that repents overcomes the second death. Jesus says I am the resurrection and the life, (John xi. 25,) and he that believes in me, the works that I do shall he do also. (John xiv. 12.) But the Jew under the law had only faith but no works. Also the Gentile under the o'ospel, he has faith but not the works ; so these are both equal, that is they both receive the salva- tion of their souls in the resurrection. Now the hio-her g'lory for Israel. Remember this passag'e : If the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your vile bodies, and fashion them like his glorious body. (Rom. viii. 11 ; Phil. iii. 21.) Therefore God made Jesus both the incorruptible and the immortal God ; that is he is not the God of the dead, but of the liv- ing. Now John Cartwrig'ht, what is the time of which it is said he made the world in six days ? Answer. — Six thousand years. Thou hast answered wisely. Question. — What is the earth ? Answer. — The bodies of men. Thou hast answered wisely in that. Question. — Jesus said I am the living* vine, ye are the branches. John Cartwright, 1 ask thee who is this vine? Answer. — The Spirit that descended. Thou hast answered wisely. He further says, Every branch that beareth fruit in mo ho purgeth it, that it may bring* forth more fruit, and every brancJi that beareth not fruit is broken oil'. This applies to all religions round the 185 planet. If a man repents Le abides in him, and is of the incorruptible. I was forty years old before my eyes were opened to see the difference between the incorruptible and the immortal. He in whom Christ abides in will be of the immortal. All sects believe they are grafted into him, but the resurrec- tion must prove it, and they will only then be as the ang-els, yet hig^her than when before they fell. Observe the parable about the divided inheritance, one said divide, he did not like a partner's life ; he was the oldest in the body but the youngest in the spirit. Question.— John Cartwrig-ht, whether is the num- ber of religions, or trees and herbs, the greater ? Answer. — I think the trees and herbs. If the religions were more than these, then time would be up. I am commanded to plant trees of every kind round Melbourne House, that the world may stop and inquire. This will be done as a figure, and if I do not this I get no wages. Jesus said. My Father wrought hitherto, and so work I. (John v. 17.) He that says and works not loseth his body, but he that doeth and worketh receiveth his body with the kingdom within it. Now, John Cartwright, I have a question to put to thee for the information of all. What are the numbers of the debts of the different debtors who have their debts forgiven? Answer. — One is fifty and twenty. Question. — Does thou make one the Jew and the other the Gentile ? Answer. — No, they are both Jews. Here John Wroe looked very steadfast in John Cartwright's face, and John Cartwright said there is also a fifty pence debtor and a five hundred pence debtor. Question. — Then thou makes from debtors two kinds of ])eople, and two kinds of debts ? Answer. — Yes, Name them. IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) / O ''/. ^ m. o .%' f^A' .sr ^^ W^.. < "^ V L^ U^ % 1.0 I.I 1.25 Li 12.8 II. Ui S us II 2.0 Ik 1^ 1.4 1.6 ^ m. # 7 Photographic Sciwices Corpomtion 33 WIST MAIN tTNBT WliStH.NV 14SM (7U)l/3-4S03 ^ 18G John Cartwricrlit said the two first are those, the one who only owed twenty being' circumcised, and dying- in the faith of the redemption of the body, is ot the incorruptible bride in the resurrection, while the other who owed fifty, although circumcised, Josing- his faith, will only be as the angels in heaven, there remaining. ' Let the parable be read referring- to this, Luke XVI. 1 — 9. John Wroe said, John Cartwrig-ht, what is that house for man to be received into ? Answer. — The gTave. Thou hast wisely answered. I say in tlie name of God, all men that g-o down to the pit, (the grave,) are restored at the first and the final rosurrection. And now for the debtors of the Gentiles under the gospel. The fifty pence debtor is the one who re- pents, and 18 as the angels at the first resurrection. Ihe five hundred i)ence debtor is the one cast off till the final resurrection. Observe, if we remain believers in the common salvation wo only g-et our debts reduced, but the house ot Israel get their debts crossed out. But .low many are tliero in the house of Israel who refuse to have their debts crossed out? They leave the visitation, or deny that they owe him anything, vet some ubide in him until he (the Spirit) abide in them. I heso are the trees of righteousness, trees of the Lord's planting". Written from John Wroe's mouth by Georco Cookney, Uobert Jlobertson, and .John (^artwright. lloharf Town, Titmanm, Wrd of V2ih month ^ 18/>0. While at the breakfast table at Goorj^e Cooknoy's, John Wroe said J am jroinu- to nut a nnn«hnnto thee, John Cartwright. 187 QueBtion.-Now wLether did our Lord do more for the Jews or the Gentile^s ? ^...^ Answer.-He did move for the Gentiles. Thou hast answered wisely. « Qae"tioa.-The .lews have the law, have they not? TheThaTe'f"*, and although they lose tl>e b^y, time! l>e »'«>»* *^^"'"'S ^"'"f^ Fl"! pSe t "n "Tain 'i aX'theo another q„e«.ion: Whether i, the 'vUible or natural Jew nearer to God, or tho.o "•'llr^'lt ?^nKr natural Jew, until tho.e aiu'the Gentiles are separated, and are brought *"T£.ft;:t "answered wisely, boean.e these w^.e^. rhrii:hf:nrtir:^:'wi;iehthe'^;:nln:^ which 18 the lij^nt, aim t ^^^^ ^^^ :rd\nr;z;:^^^^^^^^^^ nVrlZ'tm the mouth of John Wroe by John Cartwright. 188 llobart Town, Tasmania, 4th of I2th month, 1859. Sabbath hour. Nebuchadnezzar dreamed a dream, and behold no one was found to interpret this dream but Daniel, and the interpretation was this : he, Nebuchadrezzar was to be driven from man among- the beasts of the held. Ihe heart of a beast was to be g-iven to him • he was to eat g-rass as the beasts of the field until seven times pass over him. (Dan. iv.) And now in thp sixth day, or sixth thousand year, again is the Holy One come down, giving- a further explanation, 80 that every one shall be able to read the writing-s and understand the vision, and they that cannot, o^ will not understand, shall die as the beasts of the neld. The interpretation is g-iven to every one that ask- ethj anuhethatis subject to his prayer shall read the writings and understand the vision, and live, while he that noglects his prayer shall sle^p. D^ ye know that God beareth rule in the kingdoms of inen ? And every high-minded man shall be as Nebuchadnezzar set on his throne, and every drunk- ard the same, every passionate man the same. All drunkards are as Nebuchadnezzar, that is when drink rules, not him. Ihit the house of Israel shall under- stand the vision, and he that receiveth not the vinion he same sha 1 p.rish. The King's children, (1 mean he immorta Iv.ng's children, for they are claimed by h.m,)shal be clothed as he has commanded on the Lords sabbnth; every man shall be known by h.s dress ; and when at his labour he shall wear what IS befitting his labour, but on my Habbaths, and when on a journ.y, he shall be distinguished by his dre.s. J his command have 1 of God through an inquiry made yesterday. ^ -^ Every „,a„ ,, the head of his own house, the wo- man is made the instrument to take away the evil, therefore she shall be subject to two husbands, else she Hhaii d!« ' 189 eure in death, 1 ha e ifUxuky destruction - plagues 1 ^ grave, x (Hosea xiii. 14.) , twelve tribes : what- This -"■"r^Xifml In Ms Creator the ever a man de^f^'? '"^^.thev dog, cat, or any other game ehall rme *""')"" , j. ,"(. „U those perish ? animal ; or children, \^?!°l,'i' ^ ""^han her husband tribes. It he loves ui» , , -i ^ .g^ the same, and the children «.>{■' /^■^"j/™' he that loveth n.e that man shall die. ■'^■' ,» ^''^f ^^ ,„„ love amongst keepeth my """'"^^^ „n^ dr"ndeed. If a man you it is meat indeed, ■'"/l ^r.nk mdee ^^^^ Ls'money, and !>,« «^«^„f ^, .^^ Jfets his house in ^•arthrws !nVrcotr\he outgo, that man ^'-a^LCKhouse of Israel are to p/-fj~ffi«: Every man is a preacher «'<1 « "^nh, unlearned, pretation of the vision, i " g'J'^^' ^^^j ^ because order? *Un irino-R of the earth cannot "bSughs bX. S or cast out because they would not receive the y'"""-. „.„,„„( „„j i.ear, house of l,isc.n.n -tf';'7>,VvoSto tlifsman'and woman Israel, for wl.at ^_f^ ^f ^^^^ ,v„itB of my body it i» to Hi^ ^^°*^> mil 'i II 190 have received the vision bat one, and he shall print this and read what is spoken conoerninfj hinmelE WilJ tliose wlio have covenanted rob their Creator' InZtZ TTi'-^"' ? '"" ™«»«u'-e'l the eame in eating: and drinking', also in clothing. God re- qun-es It at my hands the first, then the officers. INow 1 am driven from the house of God until thn sheep and cattle be gathered, until then ?he i on gates are shut against me. Then if we all go down to tl e pit how can we hope to see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the Jiving ?-how can we hope o see and believe the truth? Jesus said to his ZZ pies, divide my love amon^<'' "''"' Answer.— Immortality. this'.''"" '""" '""'''""^ '™<^h, and see thou preach If'ThTu*'w° . ^ 194 Answer.— Their children are under the same law as other members. (Signed) J. A. J. Sanctuary, ColUngwood, Uth of 12th month, 1859. After the sabbath hour the messeng-er spoke as follows :-Now before I leave this place, Melbourne, you will be g^reatly tried, for both Je\Y and Gentile will do g-reat thing-g, for they are g-etting- some fine weapons to fig^ht the church of God with ; and some among- you who are not of Israel will doubt whether to help them or not, and some will help them ; but 1 tell you in the name of God, an untimely birth is bet.er than their's. And this year and the n3xt there is ^omg- to be g-reat trials, and some of you here shall see this fulfilled, and will own yes when you cannot see my face, nor come where I am. (Signed) J. A. J. Sanctuary, Collingwood, I8th of 12th month, 1859. Before the sabbath hour. A young woman came and signed, and after she had done so John Wroe said:— Young woman do you know what you have sworn to this morninc ^ She answered I do Well, if you should want ''to go back to the Wesleyans, or to any of the other churches, you will have to deny what you have now done before they will again acknowledge you. And li you were to go to the Jews they would iiot receive you, unless you denied what you have done this morning also. So you are now an outcast of Israel 195 done this morning. ^^.^^^^^ _, ^, j. The same date. Sabbath hour. Whon the 2nd law of the A-t book of the La;^„„a „p and Baid, Bead that l^';;'^^^, ^^a'do not un- Zw.forwhat«the uae If we ".e^^^^ .0 try and deretand. You can""* '•«*^ „g ^^y inwardly di- read as bIow aB you «='". t'^^^J/,, an engraver by gest what we hear. I ^^ «*?„i leBt I be «mother- VwWel tfand thrttiB that wh.eh r.eB fetreeVihe -Ur and ^^^^^Xn^^^^o., if ano- The wife that is put »^^y ™\i^g ^jeked raise the tl,er man can have her, *«» ^^ ^ ^jfe, or a woman dead. Any man «;f*. f^Xuerv, I say in the nanie l,er husband, committmg ^^f^'^J^^ ^-J, afterwards. of God they are no "'""r^^,","^,;"" Mary Smith, who What has this woman Lm«a"'"| fo,. ^ja mormng ,,„d joined this '"f "/fllLcr for she has asked Snrily she .l>."'J,tfirave her he^ first breath.. Pay for tliat Spirit whicli gfyf' ' . • 0,. that mans, no attention to this ma s oP«;°"jift.,,e„t days, the There are those who keep " ,^5 ,,t, the Mahomedan eo"?«rill the seed of Abraham by Lh day, which IS W;«rtoman! Now John Cart- i\u^ bondwoman, a biacu. >^"" tight, who is that Abraham? AnswGV' — -Jgsus. ^ Thou hast answered wise y. ,^ -^ p^iday Now rtiei. there IS the b-^ la, ,^^^ ^^,^^ ^^^, ^,^^^ iiiglit;\vbiclii9tue Jew. m 196 which is this day, which is the Gentiles. This wo- man has signed against all these thi-ee. Question.— John Cartwright, who confirmed the lawa of Moses ? Answer.— The Spirit by the body of Jesus. Thou hast answered wisely. Now we have three witnesses of immortality, and yet not entered. This is strange language, but they are not yet glorified ; if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead. Now, John Cartwrio-ht, what is that Spirit? "" ' Answer. — Christ. Thou hast rightly answered. And now find the passage, and read it where he is made. John Cartwright here read Acts ii. 30. J' Therefore let all the house of Israel tnow assur- edly, that God hath made that same Jesus whom ye have crucified both Lord and Christ." Be aware I am only seeking to be a branch of that tree. I turn to thee again, John Cartwright. When the fepmt had entered the body of Jesus what state was he m then ? Answer.— He was immortal. Thou hast answered wisely, and put that down. Question.— Again, whether was the body of Jesus or his Spirit shewn the first? Answer.— The body was gone before the spirit ancl soul appeared a spiritual hody. Thou hast answered wisely. Now I challeucre all the wise men to undo this. On explanation to law 1st of the 8nd booh being read : And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel and the woman through her belly. So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel. IJrethren, the time and the season is known to you ot the evil being slain. The man that thrust them through became a friend, and Jesus Christ says there IS no greater love than this, than that a man lay down his hfo for his friends. (John xv. Ill) 197 Now, John CaHwrigUt^ljaU-J^^^^^^^^^^ ^TnfwrMa^i^ tot?dtn the evil of his .0. ^ Thou hast answered wisely. ^^^^^^ ^^ ^ Then if this woman do this the pg ^^^ ^.^^^^ Btroyed in her, the same a« the J^ | ^^ ^^^^^^^ from the house ot Israel, -f . woman who *rother! I ''"^.^rthTthre^ohSel And it is has Bignod agains the three ^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^^ tujhtf ttr wi^sset shall every matter he '' 'QaS.-Joto Cartwright, was not Jesus' body iui mortal? ^SnT^Was-t Enoch's immortal? £S7-Was not Elijah's immortal? toToT JS-. Thelaws^f E^^irh^avl ..tisfied -i%t„rtXT"ttode/thinmanby Ltta:\t»:-l' ^e could put all the wise men to Bilence. , i twelve years old Thus saith t^e Ljrd S Sme now^ VVhat in the house of J^.f ?«.\'7! ,:, „ounff woman has done a horrible thing it '.« *' «' *'^ ^ "^Jicine ? Can none for herself. But is there no m ^.^^ ^^^^ j^^^^ of you do anythmg for h H ^^^ ^^ and Gentiles do? Jf J "''' " t i.^r down into the ^eep and lament, ^nd at last pu ^^^^.^^ grave, and put o" ^''^/"J.e who are dead sha fue has come to 1*, and Oiose^ w^^^^^^ ^^ .^,^ ^,,^i^ come to the living, even become immortal. ^ . -^i^t, read the passao^o „h;:^ifrrvnKsus^S"^''""'- 198 'I " And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money come to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute ? He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus pre- vented him, saying-. What thinkest thou, Simon ? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him. Then are the children free. Notwith- standing, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first Cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money : that take, and give unto them for me and thee." Mutt. xvii. 24—27. John tVroe then said, I am doing this lest you should think it hard that you have to pay tribute to tlie three churches. The Jew pays tribute to tho Gentiles, and if you and I be of Israel why do you murmur? Is not God our provider? Does ho not give us bread ? Hut there is another bread, and if ye eat of that bread ye will not murmur at ])aying tribute towards supporting tlio church of ( fod. Those that do not pay to this church, do tliey not leave their name for a curse?— is not tlieir name standino against you? ** John Cartwright was then ordered to find tho pas- sage and read it. "And ye sha'J leave your name for a curse unto my chosen." lea. Ixv. 15. There is one thing I have to say to yo here. 8ome of them that were l»ero on lVi(hiy night went away oriendod, but wliy should tiioy be olfendod at wha't God has given mo? The cominand is, yo are to have your hair (K)wn in tho Habl)alhH, and particiiiarly tho mal(>8. Then wliy do I see so nmny witli your iiair tied u])? Now I turn to ye females, if ye cut one hair olf your lioad yo dishonour your head, and as the hour IS up, you that nro bound may go homo and fuUii your vows. (SiTMcd) J. A. J. 199 Sanctuary, Sydney, 2Srd of mh ,nonih, 1859. Sabbath hour. John Wroe called Tho-s Fr-t t..„ l.e^^^«t the following question -.--Was tue body of man or after i Answer.— Before. ^ Thou hnst answered wisely. .^ Btumv ie it not all one tree ? i"rVe'':ovld, tl.ey are all grafted into tl,at tree, wbich is 'len'!'- ^ t,,„t, tree or Qneition— Did JeBUS spnn ^^^ ^,^^ I,. j«,n. .r 1,™«1(1 j„„ I ,1,, F.l|..r. Answer. — ino, nt> »»"" , ^i ..« ^g the wo- Now if.l go into any houBe ad the.^e^ ^^^ man'8 writings, I an or^e eu ^.ningg? I does any prorl.ct -^^^jf^^l ° place like this, have never >", »'y, ^""71"^ , "t I was an..ry with that ,u„l it might be tl'«"S''' ''^ „ „Tfirm in his office, n,an, but 1 am g'"-!.'" !«; ' " '^^l tlm this, that the because I havo no o h . c — ;\ ^^^ „„,J_ , i the aw given is m t"'"\ "„„,„,„ j niv ticket. And ot aoorkeeper came and demd^ ^ all those that have t avc c ^^^^ ^^^ ^,^ fou.ul one that has dm " 1^^ ;^j ,„„„ ,„ ,, the now with mo, but ''« "j^. °'' ,„i,„i i,u own business. ,,,e The nmn told h n. to mm ^^^^^^ _ ^^^_^^ ^ ^^ \ say the »" ""^i^^^H, j, fli f„r a trustee or any '■'jrr ffic"e i ho co,2«e in the same way as ho is, h?;t1nfbetotheco..raryJie.s^ ^_^^ .,^. ,„ortaT".i'it to'put a ..uestion unto thee. i200 man Question.— If he had obeyed him that to him, whether would he have served God Answer. — Man. Thou hast answered wisely, and let this be printed and sent to all the twelve tribes for a g-uide to all. Question. — If a man lose his faith before his last breath, has he seed in him ? Answer. — No. Question. — If a male child is circumcised and bap- tized, and one be not circumcised and baptized, whether is the nearer? Answer.— The one who is circumcised and bap- tized. Thou hast answered wisely. Question.— He sent seventy out, did he give them power before he sent them out? Answer. — It would not be of any use for them to go if he did not. Well, I only want an answer, yes or no. He sent otlier seventy, and they are to go without purse or scrip. Question.— Was he not of the tree of death? I mean Jesus .^ Answer. — Yes. Question.— Whether was the body of Jesus or the soul raised first ? Answer. — The soul of Jesus. Question. — Now I do not want to take theo at unawares, was ho not the first of the creation ? And tlioro is the two trees, is there not? Does thou un- derstand mo? Answer. — I do. Question. — Does not Christ say I was before all men, I was before Abraliam? The second man is of the earth, that is sprung from the body of the wo- man, is ho or is lie not? Answer.- He is. J sj)eak of Christ, which is God. Written from the mouth of John Wroo by John Curtvvright. 201 S!Jen h^'^^^ ,,Ued to chairman. .lohn / »"";^^, ^uicatio^ in the yoarlv coing to hoar r''';l''^7\r,a he may snare hi.n i" titnoss against his "l'"'; J^ "^Vr,, eacher., b»t the hi, words; so "^Vir into the world h-ings two preacher who j?oes ou " ^^^^^ ^^_^j ^.^ ,, ,, „, d vitnesses with ' '"', ^' "' nd,„,„ l,im according to fl„w of the world shall, <;°",'[""' .,,„,„ witnesses ou tire;ct.>vowi'uesses,anaiin.h»=t.--^^ 202 his Bi le he shall overcome the world, for these wit- nesses are a wall reachiDg- unto heaven ; and if these two witnesses vierc not with me in America I should not be heard of in Eng-land ag-ain. When I went to anoint Buonaparte, the Jew that was with me compassed me about; he wheedled and twined and twisted until he got the secret from me ; and behold, how soon after was I made a prisoner of: and if I had not these two witnesses with me my body would have been a headless trunk under the guillotine. These two witnesses are the oil, and if I had not this oil with me I should not be able to overcome all that has come against me. I have been made the iub';rument of reforming abuses In many nations, even to turning pictures with their faces against the wall. I have had to live in the fields on blackberries and nuts, to show that the people should do the same, and it was brought to pass. This is what I was brought into the world tor, that it might come on me the first, for 1 was chosen for my office before the world was, that is before the bodies of men were formed. But do not misunderstand me, or think chat I place myself above Jesus, God forbid, for Jesus is the firstborn, the heir of the immortal world, and lie was the heir of the incorruptible from above. There are three churches, the seed of Abraham, the Gentiles, and the seed of the bond-woman, and they have all separate days to worship on ; the bond- woman's on Friday, the Hebrews on Saturday, and the Gentiles on Sunday, but the bond-woman'^s son shall now be cast out from the other two. Now neither of these three are children of the promise; the Jews sought to claim it; they said we are Abraham's seed, not born of fornication. We have one father, even God. Hut what says Jesus: "I know ye are Abraham's seed, but if ye wore the children of Abraham ye would do the works of Abra- hum. Now these refused the oil though they had the 203 etVi my commandments J";;"' "'"4, ,,« is no love, for the commandments are no tept th ^^ ^^^^ rotutnrandoityf:i:notUt.ytUat.mmor- ^SZX^^ "llSfotTe'r '"^' „p and declared the r boiyj^"" ^ ° f u,e oil born tt:t:ririreH:iaituinbeiive. Maker ? All rel.g.ons arc grattea ^^ ^^^^ ^, » tree does not bear o />'« ^'^f^^ y„a, that if either And now 1 say n the narot busmesa Jew or Gentile -^ reoe.ve you je 1,^^^^,^ ^^^ tbev iu this church Go to a iro ^^. ^.^^^. ^,^^,j^ will toll you that li you w" J 5j „. and change your ideas they « ^„,4 there is no Now this IS set M '«"'";, ^Srnnn, or preacher, command agaumt ''"y""^.„"u,Kut as respects their as regards c'""""/," t^^^L walk circumspectly, own sabbath ; b"* !« ^J"'^ . "„ or Gentile. But re- that he give no ofte ce to Jew ^^__^,,,„„j ^e on member one thing, lot al t. ■ ^,^^ ,,^„,o of Zr minds, for ^'ore «- to be um .^^^^^ Israel who arc not 1»'»"'',;".J' j^ess before their fel- Many are asbamo. ot » « ;;,,epherd, or mason ; low workincn, vbetbor eoll^e^ s^^, ^^^^ ^^ ^^ j^„„_ but tboy wl»o ^^^ °^ isruui y tlmugh an.ongs'- ten tb""^"");\ „,ough they I'vof.'sa •nro Jews keep not the law, n ^^^ ^,^^,.,. to h lieve it, for tbo^e"!; »™ ^,';Z. tree, with floes on the V'""','*'V!'"tWr ve'seU alul swine's flesh Jr,,;;- is a'sacrifico to Uod. S04 But now ye have your prayer altered, and let ns always pray ; and how are we always to pray ? By having- it on our mind, for the man at his labour, and the woman at the wash-tub, by having it on their mind, are both praying* to God. Now about images, it is said ye shall not add to the word. The Bible was here read, and the messeng-er de- clared that it had no reference to pictures of trees or shru' s, or plants, but only living- animals, and though these were on the raiment tliey could not be shut out. I have stood up at many places and declared that 1 seek a wife, yea even two wives, but not as the Jew, two wwes that can be handled, but I want one mortal woman that can be handled, that she may cleanse me of that which I was conceived in, for are we not all under the transgression of our father Adam? Paul says death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that hath not sinned after the smuhtude of Adam's transgression. Now, John Cartwright, as thou art a teacher and preacher ot law and gospel, what difference was there between those who had not sinned after the simili- tude of Adam's transgression, for according to the words of Paul some did not this and some did? Answer.— One lived, the other died. Question.— Who was it that lived ? Answer. — Enoch. Thou hast answered rightly. (^hiestion.—Then where transgression is, what is nrjuired for the salvation of the soul ? Answer.— Kepentanco before death. Tliou hast answered winoly. Question.— John (Cartwright, there are five wise and five foolish virgins j where are these foolish vir- gins amongst / Answer.— in the house of Israel. QnOHflOl). -Tlinil l.iu iw>* 4lw» 1 «- -.i- T 1 •! uliko f 205 ^S-i^^Ttn how comes it that one is tooU.h and the otber wise ? Answer.-l cannot ^n^^^J-g • i, because tliey do J^ttoSand ttta WU with other. transgress the law, f' '»";';„ ^^^10™ ; and if ye House, that it might be a rule to ,^^^ ^^^, will give your ^eavtB to lea™|^«^; ^„a ^ben the People of the world shall teach y ^ ^.^^.^^^ niusio hesins, let the females »e ^ ,,, voice from *« .{"Jjlr^^el long you, that the rtTe!r;a:KttC\othe.aw,thes^^^ as the preacher. ^ ^^ „ for if we that r,«.«.»y,''",r See how Abraham cried tor lose this oil It IB death, bee now a ^.^^ 1". seed by tl- b«"Jj-7;;;«rUened to the "prayer, before thee, and God has hear j,,„„,„„a years for the bond-woman's seed slmUl.ve a t,,/eove- i„ blood. There are '>o«« f »^ , Mortality. And nant, and in ten »!»"*'^\,P"Utv great, for though a iB not the mercy o the Al" '!? '^ SVi^^ ^^ i,;^ to man murder another, yet it is possio. put on immortality. i,„,,„es shall be searched ! And I tell you tha 7 ,,^--; :„ything against ffiTttr^f : ^i^ .^:n'L! foi'-rho^ :i- (Signed) u . /v. u . 206 Sanctuary, Sydney^ 2Qth of 12th mofith, 1859. Now I speak to parents : Ye stop your daughters trom marrying- with the world, but do ye not know that the seed is broug-ht by mixture of marria J^^^tta pactional of the house of I-- ;o^e P^^^ ^„^^ All gone part ; but of all tbese wi ^^ ^^ ^e iut one, and even he 'dead, but ^ died in the fa.th, «."d tl'a «»« -""^^^ ,t,^, women There are maumes f' ?"\ ^,"^\he house of Israel wantingtheiro«n,maoe b« a^etl^ ^^^^^^ ^^^ children again ./?"' am | > jj ^,4 ^,g ap- lomb be/'-«d It .s God bat w.l^^ r_^ ^y pointed tunc, f »' "". "„' ^ fo„ „our children; but % cloths to make an .mage to )o ^^^^.^^^ ^^^^ do you know what ye ask tor. y ^^^^^^ evif and t''""''"'' °^ *TIpdtlfe report, gave out that The number four backed the "'P, ' » jj,, ^ „ain John Wroe '-f 'i-J.^^^i^riZ "all in tU their own -"ds, J" ^,]'fpC e for fifty po^nds wlueh own hands. ^''0?,*"' ,„ ,^ ,■„. ,,0 T)erson would bid, cost three thousand pounds o. op ^^^^^_.^ ^^ nnd the sale was kept a seciei John Stanley. „„„,„.„ 1 will ask thee a ques- Now, Hobert L°ng more 1 ^^ j,^^ tion : The leader ot the house 01 k ^^^^ ^^^^^ top of the house that was hull I'n.. a lids with another meniber « .I^ would thou ibl- lriX:tsrl'eVirdoreameup,tliemur- -^5££^rZ;tS the Children of 208 Israel, if tliey stood still, conquer their enemies if they followed not a leader ? Answer. — They would not conquer. Thou hast answered wisely. Question.—If John Wroe ha that man does thou think there was malice in his heart ? Answer. — No. This is as wise as thy former answer. Now remember Moses when he was a child; look at the difficulty his mother had to preserve him ; and when he was come to man's estate he saw ah Eoyp. tian and an Hebrew quarrel; in the heat ot^the moment he struck the Eg-yptian, and killed him. And next day, behold two men quarrelled ; the same one said to Moses : Intendest thou to kill me as thou killed the Eg-yptian yesterday ? Moses fled his country ; he went into a strang-e land, and into the service of a priest ; he pleased the priest so well that he gfave Moses his daughter, and I have never seen or read that Moses had\ny other wife. "^ Now the number four, with their friends, gave out that John vVroe fled from his country, but he never did ; through all persecution he stood it out. Now there is another matter: the trustees met at Melbourne House, and they conferred among them- selves, that there was great boasting about what this person gave and that person gave, and to stop that they wished the rest of the building finished from the treasury, but I answered them as the prophet of old answered : Saul, what meaneth this bleating of sheep and oxen ? He answered to sacrifice before the Loru' ; but is not obedience before all sacrifice? (Signed) J. A. J. if 209 Balhrat, mh of mh month, 1859. Answer.— ItoDes die •■ clpnder ones, members, and narrow "litl's fc'-^^^*^^^ ^r female Qaestion.-Whether should the '"^'^ ° ^i^.^ trustee take the seals, and who a.e to when they take the eo^*'"*^*.; , „, t^g covenant is to Answer.-Whoever admimste,s t he c ^^^ have charge of tl.e,«ea s and « d^hv^r J person when «-? l^^j^^'rahout fourteen years of ,.ftrhaV^or'«artV same size as grown •""TnsTer.-No one to have a robe until they he tw'enty years of age. ^^,^^^^^ ^^j Sanctuary, Sydney, 2m of ntk nontk, 1859. There is a law, when tlj«„Sr3,tuttsTet they are not to "*f y.°^*:lrone from' the other, the tribes are not -^'^f g"7„'„Vwo'nan or man mar- So that there is no ''?«?"" ''"y7^bey not to make children of the kingdom. Abraham's Jesus said to the J^^' ^^^""^^^Jt are not of this Beed, yet other sheen .I!"^^%^S"'^,,en Jacob went fold ; ;them .^-/sSfo the Molt Hig-h fell upon ^ '^. ^i^r.^'ttetand to t fei them." 210 ti:t Now there were three flocks, as there are at this day three churches-the Hebrew, the Gentile, and the bond-woman g church ; and when Jacob demand- ed Ins wife, Laban told him it was not the custom of the country to ^ive the young-er befoi: the elder, so he had to serve for two, that the temporal might be a fipre of the spiritual. * There is a g-reat deal of professed love of God at the present time, but it must be proved, as Peter's Jove was proved. Did rot Peter boldly say, « Lord thou knowest that I love thee?" but where was that Jove when he denied his master? Did not three lemales testify against him that he had not this love ? iiut It shall be proved that they that do his com- mandments will have this love, and that he will pour out his bpmt as rain upon you that seek to do his will, so that the world shall say ye are mad. Ihe former number four sought wives ard hus- bands for their children among the world, and not among members, but they discovered their mistake too late. Lust comes from the parents to the children and 18 continued in the seed, but does not God say he will make you pure ? I want these two women to purify me ^ I seek them in every place, yet I am not faithless, but believing that God will give me them m his time. But do not misunderstand me, I want not two mortal women, but 1 want one that above ^^^^H and who is she? Jerusalem Now before man was placed on the pirr-et there was a division took place before the seed wns T)Iri^ ed in the womb. The Scripture says a certah. riiaa Lad two sons, Christ and Adam, the Spirit of Jesus, heir ot the immortal world, which came forth four thou- saiid years alter the spirit of Adam received a body. A^r ^ a "^t'^^^^ance was divided by death, tlie death of the body, one for incorruptible, the other for immortality And Jehovah sent forth a com- mand lor his^ eldest son to come up to him into tiic heavens, tnat he might receive of his glory. And 211 this 1 say, tut tUe.e . yet a ^eaj glory th.. .^^ beine made immcrtal , be ^Je" I ^ ^^^^ a^jain. fZe glovified thee, and ^^f^.^ t.Uen from Bnooh was taken f"^ ^^^evealed is above this the earth, but the glory to be rev ^^ ^f No-w there is "» 1"\*\' j "this I say, that if they they attendone.sahbath; but th« 1 s y, ^^ ha/e the oi\ ^'L dtnow^doTng in Ireland and Look at what the Lord is no-v S^^^ t^^m, America ; P^opl^' ^^ tery streets, and crying out kneeling down in the very o^tholics tried to for the salvation »f *« ^^^J^^es, but it was found to of names, gpints eaitb unto the « Jh :rr:^^'S: ^U^hX be gU to you as fast as kn^rtliat Buo— w«-^^^^^^^^^ ., .„d is his a eonsregation Iving oi x ■ ^^jat are fa thin the visitation "»* « S>;f ^at and lofty, and numbered in !«>•?« -..^""as'wt Samuel Walker a of dominant spirit, >" 'J'^^' ^ of the society into greao man ? He got the attai. ^^^^ members, lis hands, he borrovved monej ^^^^^^ ^^^ j^j and he went ^^^^^f .°%!1?^ took advantage o a not his acts prove h m^ " ^,,^j ,,, „as the lunatic woman and ' «»«f ^^ ,,;, eareer was c osed ^^nt':^uS'f- ^^^^^^^ -' '"^^"^"^ even the sie">'" bear. „„,, t „ive you, that ye lend not Now this e°'"™*"'^.„/f one be poor g.vcit to money one to another, >» * '' "j^, j,,-,,; him that bor- C ?or if money be lent i w.U U jj^^ „,,y ^Jow^d and him that hniioiH^^oUl^^ ^^^ th^\fV„" wmamangetinileM. , ,j,„l^et? Jut debt put his hands '" ,?"°" .^i,, . ,,lace to place for, ^hat'is all my t^^^fj" f,/," i that ovc.xamc mo; tliat 1 m'^^.t v,i-^-- Ttl^ 212 and a mail's eonscieiice shall accuse him of that evil. 1 n ^^ ^ ®^^°^^' ^""® ^^ ^^^ resurrection, and then shall all the wicked deeds be made manifest— ^he accuser and accused face to face, and they shall stand self-condemned. I would not be at this meeting- this evenino- were i* r°tJ?^ ^^^ promise, but God has g-iven me strength to tullil It; and as I do so do you fulfil your pro- mises, and be not sayers but doers. Look at the dry weather in all nations lately, but where I have been there has been rain followed ; but as the parch- ed herb and g-rass want the dew from heaven to water it— as the corn wants the refreshing showers ot rain, so do I want God's Spirit, that I miffht have strength to fulfil my office. Written from the mouth of John Wroe by John Donovan. "^ The same date. The mossencrer spoke as follows:- 1 stand here wi h my head covered, and my rod in my hand, nnd I declare in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ that thou, (,eorg-o Dobell, are to be doorkeeper of this hody ; Wilham M'Crea, jiuln^e of this body, and John Donovan, trustee over the county of Cumborlnnd. And 1 toll you further, that John Donovan has done wT? J", '"?\»P!'^V'^»"8 some one in his i.lnce. Whatshal 1 l.k.n him to, but to a woman who eaves her husband, and lets him go whoriuii' or what he likes. h • tiv I am bold, but no bolder thnn I have authorifv for; but I am to do what I have now done thouirh the whole house ot Israel rise against it. (Signed) J. A. J. 213 o 7 .,. ^(\fh of \2th month, 1859. Sanemry, Sydney, mh of ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ f ti,,. ..luirch be overcome, let him If a member of *« "^'^.^.^^ used that prayer examine h mselt whe^A« he j ^^^ ^^^ ^ t^ t he which is given «;toJ> M,,t ask for it ? And all will ffive all thing to ."'"f^ "'* that mortal man Things are contained m that pray t^^^^.^^ .^^ ^e- renuires; hut how is it y^ "^ . ^^ other Com- S ye'ask amiss ; y« »-* ^ve yo" <=-^"T' Spirit ye can do notlnn|. .^.riflces, wWch » prayer, but is it "»! t° ^ f^/ufe of the body. The grayer is ab<"?\"'^ '°l*i ' th the erambs which fell ^oman prayed to be led wUU ^^^^^^ ^^, j ^ ,, from the "Mt^'/i^rfi.c wnmbs that Jew and Gen- aa this woman fed on the c. am ^^^^^^ aie reject and which *''« J";yt,,ee a question :- llobert LonS?"^"™',,!;, a ' in the faith of the salva- rofr^«'°.^^tdiutVchi.ist or Jesus. Answor.' — "•' gsub. _ Thou hast answered wisely. .^ ^^^^j f „, inien ifamanab.de not '1 U'l's j,,, fl,.e. „/a branch that -^-^t l^'^m trth dnily as soon as Now are they notcast gut ^^^ ^^^ ^"<' "^rr'NoTrow' mi;; Uobert^ngiuore, abode inl^o vine from the .g^^^^^^ Answer.— ii'i'e> ,.•.,', Tliou hast answered iigni. j^^^^ „p,.e TbU is all that .s -««•;;,]':';.,. if tlicy have „,any more. 1 «<>> '.^^'' ^ .^i allowed, lor prayer is .aid their i>rayer but 1 am . ^^ ^ ,,,^8 ,t. to bo a secret between Ood «"^ " ,!,„ f,om bed, 'now, uf -^v'ff 7 ::; - s bi» p-yevs, i- «hu 11 right to ao BO : 214 Answer. — No. Thou hast answered rig"ht. The Scripture says when thou prays shut to the door of thy closet ; this is to shut the door of thy mouth, that nobody see thee utter that prayer, ir'hilip said, Lord, shew us the Father and it suffi- ceth us. Jesus said, He that hath seen me hath seen the Father. Beh'evest thou not that I am in the leather, and the Father in me, and when man is made immortal then (ball be see the Father. Job said yet in my flesh shall I see God, but it was Jesus, nis seed, that accomplished this. Now, llobert Longmore, I will put this question to thee. It was formerly in the writing-s that we were not to have likenesses of trees and plants. Now whether is it better for those who keep the lormer command in yiew, or those who have these likenesses, which is now allowed by the law ? Answer.^Those that keep the former command. Ihou hast answered rig-ht. Now look at the misery many mothers will be in when they see their dauo^hters g-oing- out buyinrr the last fashions, and patterns with likenesses on, yet they cannot stop them. Question.— Robert Long-more, what difference is there between an oilicor appointed by ballot, and one appointed by divine coniniand / Answer.— 1 see none, they are both accorditifr to the word. ^ ^ Tliis is the diflbrenco, ho that is appointed by di- vine command, he receives his office in immortality and it is only himself tluit can ])ut him out of that oflice, that is if ho break the law, which is to bo proved by tliree witnesses; and if tlio throe witnesses come ag-ainst an officer apj)ointc;(l l)v ballot he loses Lis oiHce the t^ame, if the charg-») bo proved. Now 1 tell you before it come to pans, that there will bo no pay for ministers, they shall bo i'od by love, and not ua the liircliii|f. Vo will know tliia 315 . , 1 1 tn T,ass but the Almiglity too''* when it is broug it toP**^' "" ^^ l.ia appointed time, it before, and brings ^t /o pas^at ^i^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ $br-i?..':"- 1 ta.wa .1.. i. " — '^Answer.— Her cb^iaren. ,^g,, ^^ teacli If her children cannot ^e^d wno j^, i, to her? This is tlie answer : tl.e priest teach ber. . ^„,, -.^e, ve are to nse the cere- Now concerning ">a'''V' ^ ^nj afterwards the monv of the Clmreli of Ens'^d, »,^''^ . „ t mar- Tr^niony of U- X^lat oftt' land /ou sVU not ried according to the la w o ^^^ „here the get registered by the torn, 01 ^^ recognized by marriage by the house fj'l^'\ ^i.^n ye must be U,e law of the couiary^you^are^^^^^,^^^^ ^^^^^^^^,, ,y ;ro1nC, >>- twTrttineet with yon but ^ Now 1 have but a few t''"f ^^ , m not think ' shalUee mo "S^'.'^'/"' Jndon, for it will bo as mucl. of going t>'om beio to l^ ^^^^ j,,^ ^^„,e if there were w"'"*' , »"™^.t ^t- as ^ne market town earth shall bo '■:»»«' '\"^,;"'^„,. ingenuity is only m iVom the «>¥'';;"e S'^f ', od will teach man, and its infancy, tor the hpu " ° ,i,,,ed. mighty llungs shal ''« « ^fo^h ut Bradford IhcV \Vhcn I was hrst 1^' ? V'" j j,. meetings, but I vefused me to outer hen puv ^^.^^ gentleman lor commanded a "'"".t" f ° ,^ ^^ Unow if the man bad two swords ; ho said '"> f' ""„,.dorcd. When these any swords, but he wo J '^^ ^^.^een them. tvrrwe.^'v;Tfr;ss;.g.iUioybotii.e shortly aftor. ^^^^„^_ iho prayer, and I do Now I have to l"l" ' ; ■ n,o, for many wo weaU, «o that ye nmy m.do.stana , 210 and will fall away through transg-ression, but is there not a fiery trial before them ? Will not the prayer be abomination to them ? But is there not a differ- ence between those that fall throuo-h transo-ression and keep the faith, and those who fall and lose it?--^ certainly there is, which shall be proved at the resur- rection. Now ^here is John Cartwri^ht at my hand : he knows what I told him last time, that God would prosper him according to his desire if he left off those deeds he had done. He says he has not been snared since with women, but has he not been overcome with drink? And I now tell him that I have seen um on the edge of a pricipice, with the edg-e of the bank rotten under his feet, and what I said to Alex- ander llennie I say unto him. He puts trust in his pledg-e, but let him put trust in his prayer: is not this evil that is with us, is it not as a dispute between two parties, but if we seek by prayer we shall overcome. I have seen fathers and mothers give way before their children before they were twelve years of ag-e, and allow the ( il to reio-n. but woe to those that do it. My words re swallowed up at present, but it will soon come to ^>a8B. vVritten from the mouth of John Wroe by John Cartwright, Robert Longmore, and John Donovan. Sydney, t^Ut of 12th month, 18r>0. This is a conimnnd, that the house of Israel is to marry by the laws of his country whore he dwells; niul if the laws of that nation where he dwells allow liim by his own creed, he must use the same words that their laws demand, and that is the ceremony ho is to make a return of, and not a return of the cere- mony used in the house of Israel. There is no tie on the house of Israel where they marry. (Siiincd^ J. A, J, i< 017 The following extrac^ ^^^S'" 'l^aSaVIo| daring the Ume l'| ^^^^1 Town, Tasmania 4 h of 10th month, 18o9, "° j, nth of 13th of 12th month, looM, month, 1859. ,j ^ t^ ,ee that fulfilled I am glad that I have ived ^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^ what I declared *«J""'i '.^ ,tould be engines to place, which was that there b townships iaw'the gold out of the deep p^^ ,^^^^ ^^.^ ^j^^,. formed, and houses huilt. noon is John ^^■.^>\. „ot two as a many in these I want two wives, but noi ™ ^^ ^ colonies have. I ^^^""V^^'^X nations, that they ilifiv are transported irom uu ^^^ *r ariibertv ?o --/Jl^a if^sUnt^Jy to law name of God it •«J'"°f;„t i^ a Jewess, who has and gospel. The "^^ I ^^^J.^ I can handle, and the her sister with her ; tb"* « °f pother I say this other which I «?°?°*,^7and the lion and eagle war will be a religious war, an ^^^ ^^ j,^ will go together and beak J ^^ ^^ through it, to clear a way tor law 'nj* b ^ ^ _ and it will go through .1 nafons ^^^ a, „.na- The time is here tj^^i minisw ^^ ^^^^^^ ^^ tions which are hirel ngs a^e go g ^..^^^ they are not t" ^'J ^^ fseen that there will be ff[:SertanM present.