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Sir r.EONARD TILLEY At,, o , you lenve the C1,air to m,lcp ,l! 7 ■ , " *""''• ^'"- *f»« «-. to c»n t„e .tt;:;:t; ^ «:;:: t""™^.-"' »' "- »- ■nent p„po,o to „„ve „h™ T ■■™<>1""»™ tie Gov„„. »«.ee„.h^C„, after «,e„t„i!o°lr°" f ''"''™™'' ™ «>» ™.e the Onaneia, .tateoler:; Laov"::::; "S ^ " r'"" *° occurred to delay the st^itP.n.nf ., • ™''"*- Circumstances have I «™, in the .„t pw, s.., to ::La ;:::::,.:*; *"'^- he c,no„„„u„e» that ,,„ve ca„^ thi, «„ ."•"'„, J'"- .''••■«.« to they are statcj to the Hoi^ie l™ l ''""''' Wieve, when I' WU, he ..™e,„„e.e,,'si, that, al : rj^L^roTp 'r°™ "™- Government asked this Hoii,« t^ ,, 1 ., Pwliament, the «i,ooo,oooor„.2.o,oVortr;ttr. ! ""°" *° "'° '»■"" °f cun-eut year. After look mt caivfully ..ver tl,(, ux-iipts ai.,1 tlio i.ro!.al,lo vKi^ondlUm- lur ll..- ni.nut year, tlu' (luveiii i,t tlio.i-lu lli.'V ii,ij,.l,t si.fely ask Pai Hamciit, at this Session, to mluco tlio taxation another 81,000,f)()0 „r .•?1,1J50,00(). Tliat havinjr hcon .Icoi.lcl upon, il, of conrs.., l.-camc- a .jiRstion L to the articles on \vhii'li this lediK'lioii siioiiM he niad^. AW- found tho Congress of the United States in session, with various proi.ositions before them for the reduction of tlie Customs duties and the Inland rtevenno tiixution, vnryin-; from 800,000,000 to 81l'O,O00,OOO, accord- ing to tiio action of (.'on,t,'res.s on these lesohitions. One i.ro])ositiou was that tobacco should be recbiced from 1(3 cts. to 8 cts. a 11). • another proposition was that it should be lemoved (;ntirely. ]f either of thesH ]iropositions cariieu.s i»r()j)()sitioiis 111(1 llie Iiilaiul 00,000, aceonl- hio iiro])Osition o 8 cts. il 11). ; •cly. ]f eitlicr for the Rirlia- iiile, protecting ling industries, ■ocluction niiulc •educo the duty ito il reduction 3 vedai together, . or, perh;ii»s, necessary th:it ;islation of the ? llevenues had 'nt ourpropo.si- these (luestions arliest possible IGtli March 3 our duty to the reduction imtof revenue. ty on articles circumstances, uld have sub- i decided tJiat iig evening, it cial statement or ten days. 3 :»'''''™'»^.' '■"-.:' ;::,::::,'■; :'■.■'•'<■■•'■'•■'■■" "ill, il.i, ox|,h,„„i„„ Si,- r 1 ■ " ' ' II""-- ^-^''''^''''"'^'^^::^:,::::rt''''"''->"''^' " »'o M-i-i-o last ,.„„. ,,•,.„ "'■'■ ""»"■"■■(,„ ,|,„ |„„i,i„., ">« C:,„-,.,.„,„,.„t I, ■' ■" '""■"■ ' '>'• I.r"|«.«ili„„, » |,i,.|| of .1." i.n,.,.,.,,,t ,„';"""■ ■■ '"™i- ., ,i.. ,„: '» 'I- "..„•,, .;„„ " ;,:."•" ";""^'"""-'- ■■ ■•■■■■ '•< ™i t f?-'-»'"-'»-™,. :.l: ;,,:;,:;:;':;,'•'':';'''-■■■ ' (Ies.ro to do. and as I am s,m-o H ir '' ^ ^"' ^" ""•-'I'll'Vt ;,s I wunld ;---'-■ -■ '» !»' K».-. .., „,„.,.,„ „,I ','"""■■■'■,"' '"" '■'•'■'■ Acconnt, l,ave been „!».„ i - „ , ' '""''"""I' "» tl„. l>„l,|i„ «.e™ov„,-a,,,|,ec„,„,rVt 1, ,'■ '" """ '■'■"I"™' "■'- '■." «.e TI„-one. I „,,„ s , , " " '" ""■'"■"'■ "> 'l'» «l«-l' "-u ye; to a5:5,3s;],ono. ..,nd t! le ex i-n.|iiu,v to s-r,0G7,00. loiiviii- a siM|.lu.s of .9.;,3in,000— the largfst surplus timt li;is ever l,ocri «l«vlur..,I in CiMu.la. Add to that .'?1,7 H.OOO rucivcl froui tlio sulcs of liiii.l iu til.! North- West, niakiuy altog.'thci- a surplus of over 8^,000,000 for th.' last yoar. Well, .Sir, during tho- Kaino period thfro was .•xpciidcd on Capital Account, for tlie Canadian I'acille and Iiitiucoloniul itailwayn, fjr the enlargement of the Canals, and on the Surveys in the North-West, 87,310,000, leasing a iiandsoine .surplus over and aliovo all the ex- l>enso8 of Capital Account during tlie last year ; and when we take into coiisid(!ration the Sinking Fund, whidi forms a fund for tho reduction of the del)t, the net debt for the J)..uiuuioii, notu-ithstanding the ex|)en- diture of 87,310,000 on Capital Account, was 81,750,000 less, and tho net interest paid for the year, 815,000 l,>ss than it was the year pre- vious. Now, Sir, we not only spent 87,310,000 on Capital Account, but we redeemed maturing liabilities, during that period, of 84,000,000. Wo had paid in from the surplus earnings of the people of the Dominion five millions nine Imndred and twenty odd thousand dolla's, from M'hich the amount I have stated was paid, leaving nearly 82,000,000 to- wards the exi)enditure of tho current year. Under the.se circumstances our financial position was an easy one. We were not forced into any market for a loan, but met a large expenditure and redemi)tion of debt with the surplus, and the deposits of the people in the savings banks. T need not dwell longer u{)on this general statement, with reference to tlie financial operations of the year ; but I desire to call the attention of the House, for a few moments, to one point, which may be I'eferred toby hon. gentlemen opposite when they deal with my statement. During the last year the expenditure was 81,500,000 more than it was tlie year before An hon. MEMBER.— Hear, hear. Sir LEONARD TILLEY.-825,500,000 was the expenditure the year before last ; last year it was 827,000,000. Now, Sir, I hear an hon. member opposite say " hear, hear," and therefore I desire to go into details with reference to the increased expenditure, to show tliat, while it amounted to 81,500,000 more last year than the year before, it did not mean more than 8500,000 of taxation to the people of the =:i./.;:;:; -^rii^::— ;;:r ^""'T' 't:'' ° "'•"""'« t»«i-iivuiii.stui»c.,-.s wl, id, e;uiSC. » -..i»- .> .1-1 i.ii as that ucni 15; concfrnod Tl.o i„.vf u ■ c- , • Fund, winch svas iuc.va.sed l,v S3y O'J'! Th V " ^'^'"' year bv vo-.r .,n 1 • -\ •■•^'^'^^•'- H'^'t item goes on inn-oa.sin- 3^-t> b} }, and is applied to the nMluction of the .leht Th.t is surely not a payment that can he complainod of Jt in Ite tl.._an.an,ement Ly which on- loans a Johtained .n i " ■ V'"; " extniction of matunng lialilities. Then we l' vj " ^ :"■ " ''"' sub-sidies paid to the IVovincos which I ' ''''''''" ^^^ tion of tor nnn , ^""'''''' '^'"^•'' ^'^^™ not yet reachc-d a pupnhi- tion of 400,000, and are .mtitled to 80 cts. per head of th, , 1 ■ ""til they reach that point Tho f^ v l-opuiatmn, f'>i' l>avin. that Tl " • ^'^^''''""'^"^ ^'"'■ly, cannot be bhuned 1 awa^ that. Ihe next increase i.s 630,072 fo, Civil Servl,. . 1 . are entitled to .Ci.jO a veu- in , ' "'''' ""'''''*"*•'' l,„,f tl ; ' "'''"' ''"'' •''°'^' t''''t that wonld con^nn.e enlargeniont of our st.UF is necr^-,vv ,.4- , , • ' n.,,r,„aij, particularly in connection with I-- u post oflipt'K and jiost. oflico siiviiiys lank.s, and tin- Dcparliiifiit of tlio Intf'iior, HO tlii.s iinTca.si,' of cxiiciKlitiirc cannot lie looked upon uh tm- rcasonalili'. On tin; C'cnf^ns tlicn; was un expenditure of !?!:.'"•, 037. That in a Kcrvice tlio (iovernnient liad to p'-rfortn ; and I do not liesitate to say dial the lion. Minister svlio has it in eharj,'e has i)orfonncd it, dnrinj,' the last veal-, u|i.jn terms much nior(; economical tliau in ]>~\. Then i\n the Militia there was an increase of .•?10."»,81 1. Tlir-i'o may bo some ()uestioiis anion;,' lion, meml/ers of this House as to the expediency ofincreasinj,' that expenditure ; l.iit for several years jirovinus to 1,S79 it was re.liiccd, and it was ileci led, hist yar, to increase it, and Parlia- ment will pnd.aMy l.c asknl duriiif,' this session for a still fiirlhor iiicrt^ase for this seivice. Thungli 7l, 1,S7:., an.l 1870. The cxpen-lituro for public buildings, post oiliccs, custom houses, etc., in various parts of the Dominion has bi3en consider.'d by botli parties the duty of the (Jovcrnment, when the state of the public funds would permit it. With reference to Indians, on which service there has been an increaw; ot §378,317, I admit that the expenditure lias been Jarge. ]]nt I would ask whether any hon. member of this Jrouso would prefer the state of affairs we njw see in the neighboring lleimblic, or have the Government deal lioncstly and liberally with the Indians, in order that we may avoid these dilliculties. Therefore, 8ir, though it may bo regretted by e\-ery hon. member of this House on both sidivs, that it biH^omes necessary that increased ex- liciiditure should take place, I am satisfied not one will object as it is necessary to the development of the North-West. In the Pest Office Department there lias been an increase of $103,0011, to which is to be added $30,000 or !i< 10,000 for exiienditure properly belonging to last year. This would increase it to c'l.^DjOOO, against which we have an increase of revenue of $200,000— the difference between the receipts and the expenditure for the last year in Jie Post Ollice Department. any v,,„. .:''"■";;::■ " 7 '7 '"" ■'■ ' ' *'- ■•"..!, an.1 that tl.at i.-nn ^ ^^ ^" '""'■'"^'■'' '■"■^'"'■■^^ "" ^•'- whi.. .an. ov.;;,s:::;;:;tt T "^ '"'•"' ''••■^- "!-• ^'- r-I-l.N ...I it si.,...; thai <>„',.;!'"' '""'•■'' '" ''"'''"'* ' '"■-•■ -::;:•;.. ;;:''::^';::::':t""'%"''' ■'-" n«m„lie.,,„ „„■„■„.. SI ,|S I,.,.,. , ' '"'"■'■■ ' '■■"■" " ■ .1,0,0 ci,c.„»:,,,;, ,;' ; ""■" ™ •-■•• 'I- n »■ .ii,.,,,, .">•. .".'I .'.at .:,:'"""■" ;"™'""" •"••" - .'.0 ,.»■ ..ocic, ..vui, .1™ e. ..ii , :. ;™ '" ""°' ■ '■■""'■''-' »"• »'■ "■" 0,„„„Ui„„ "„o„„„„„„ ,|,i„,, f„, ,„^,, 0X|.l«n,iti„„ l.,-ll,i,,|,,|,,.,„i„„. ,1, , ,, o,„,,I,a„„ ,„y "■'- >«»« .v^;... u uuV'r '■'■"''":;:■" ■•■-"■^'••^'''-■''°» ™'>oo..,l .vl,at ,»o„.„f„ ,,, '"""' " "•" ''^'■' -"!>'/ •'■"»"■-'■-•'■" .«T.o ::,::: :\: ::;:';'■';:;;■: r'T '^• (iiKl o.u- ivceipts from our r.il«- .,- , ' ' '^'' '''« 1'Ort.on ; but, unless Hut mcm,». c.„„e, ,„ • '"■°" J .1^ 11(1,101 tI,o iimoiidi-il est iii.fo Ti.„ . , e.stl.nate, based upon tho data we have at ,..-0^. t 7^'^/'"^»^»«d months of the voarl..v.. ....:...., . „ '"'.'"*' *'''^* ''^' "'^t^''' ^igl't .$22,700,000 ; from I iir liave expired, is tliat we will receive frotn C xcise, $5,900,000; from tl U'storns, le Post Oilicp, r 31,G0O,O0O- from Pablif Works, inoliidinrf hallways, $3,000,000; from InU^rest on invcstineiits, 8.S0U,0O() ; from oilier sources, $800,000 —making .i totiil receipt for Consolidated llevenuc, for the present year, of $3-l,«r)0,000. Tlie expenditure out of Consolidated Revenue will he $L'8,8:>0,000, leaving' a surplus for the current year of 80,000,000. Now, f to ii "reaf (>vt..iif .. I I^'^t, ,ts I St tf..,i win, r ' ■■''""' "1'"'^ ^'"' '*'^' "''i'J". toNvhid, T ],.tv,. ...f , '•^i"^-'^'<'"'*'Iv.stotlMMli!!u..uIti...s ^..Mi.i 1 r :::::^:\*'''""''' " -'-'• ^"•■"■' - s33.o«ot„.;:;:;;;:;::;r'-^[:t:r:r7""-- " ' -'- »•.■ ..re to ],av,., .l„ri„g tl,i, „„.i , ' I ■""."'"■■"'>■ -'.v.'n, that »>'""■"- o«,.:..i,M „':;,;,:;, .:;t;: '^-i™ -■••-. the numhor of iminit.r.nt, H . "»''^''^'i J'^^t Near, as cun.pa.cl with -1 that the ex^ 1 t "'"^ "^" "^ '''''''''' ''''' '->■ --"' >vas in ,0.., ; r '::" :° ^^"'■'■^' ^^■'^' '•- -'^' ---thl.. or .hat ic eithe.si.,.. . . wL Tr""^''" '""'• '"-'"- - this irouso on -^^' T'^'^'^-phs «.n- toleiap, sv^ t , '''"" "' """'^ '""^ ^'"'' -'^^--- ^^ West tde , r'?'?"''''''^ "■' the coast, telegraphs in tho No.th- »vest, ttkyiaphs m iintish Colmnhii • .,,,,1 ... fi ^ tiou hv teh.-r..„I. 1 J'liinbia , ,1,^1 ,,^ the means of co.n.niiuici- '.vi!! o.'ject to anijtu feaseilcxMenditi no hoii. niemljoi-, T lui sure. le in that direction. Thou wo h; ive, 10 m th. c.,m.nl y,:r, sl50,n(.n, wl.id. m-:.s appropHato.l l,v Pa.Iia.n.nt last S-sion, for a bo,.nty to tl.. fisl.ennen. Th.t, of c-ou,;, was vut.-l hv I'"' House M,.I ar..,.i,i..,l. and it is consiJ.n-.I, I an. satis(],.,I, a wis- 'a JH'l.nous, an,l a ,j„st oontriinuion to tl:„ fl.I.,.nr,.n of tl.o countrv n.cn we i.avo 8130,000 s,.,.,>t fo,- t!,. Onsus, over a.nl al.ovo the oxpenditun. last year. TI.e expenditure last year was .^100 000 and '■P-ard.s, and tl.e expe„dit„re this year is 8130,000 in excess of that innv .an l,e no ol.jeetion to that, knowin,;,- that it is heini? eeononiicallv •■xp'-nded. Then we have, for the Xorth-West Mounted I'oiice, an -.cn.ase of 8123,000. The H.ht hon. the leader of ,ho (iovernn.on; •stated ,n the House last Session, the -eason why it he.an.e neeessa.y to increase that farce. J'arlian.ent sustained it, and this increased expen- |J'turo is the result of the action of Parlian,ent. Then, with reference to the Po.st Office, 8100,000 will ho the increase durin-^ the present year, and we expect an equivalent in the .shape of additional income fount. Then u-.' have Ceneral Election expenses, 8175,000 Tint .n.Xht have been postponed, Mr. Speaker, for another vear, hut T think tl.e .najority in this ilouso will say it was .noney judidously expended. "'- .here are the suhsi.lies to Provinces. That is the result of the TZuL "''"'""'• """ '"" "'"^ '""■""•^ ""'^•^■- i^« -'-»• There is ^1..0,0.)0 increased expenditure on I'uhlic Works. I venture to sav .at^here .s scarcely an hon. n,:.:nl.er of this House hut will sustain 1.0 C!overnn,ent in that expenditure, unless, perhaps, he thinks his ocahty ,s neglected in its apportionment. When I made the statenKu.t ha whenever the nu-ans of the country would justify it, these bmhhngs were to he oree:el. T observed that th;re was a verv gonoral response. These iten.. amount to 81,GG5,000 of the sl,S50- 000 winch it is supposed wll bo the increased expenditure of the present year, and but a limited portion of that will be ^'1 tl'o .shape of taxation on the people. Taking the expen- chtnre ot this yea. base 1 upon the Estimates ^I have Just Stated, and taki^.g the population as ,v basis, the Ln miuu-ed to be taxed to nu-et it, is but 1 ct. per head in excess of the ^30 000 or '''' '^ ''''''"' '"'* notwithstanding wo have spent 830,000,000 on railways ami other public works since 1878. So nu.ch w.th reference to the increase an«tunco,s, I , • , •^'"" *''"<^""«id'-''-'itionofthoHoiHewhirh in '"yjudgnumt, justify that policy. Althon^d. I ,„ ,v 1 /''"""''''"' to .so.ne extent, the -.round I 1, u- ^ ■'"""'"= """'■' ,]„„.• '^"^o'ound 1 h.ue g.nieov.T on fonner .Sessions still there is an accumulation of evidence T » . ' ' as last Session «"l , "i^"-"^*- ^ may not occupy so much time last Session, M-hen, because T ,nado my sneec'. •, ]ht}„ I ,,,.,,,,1 1 , V npitcii a little Joiver t i;>ii . ,. m.go„.,,.,„c„».M: "W„„,.o ,„i„, ,„ ,„„„ .,„,,„„::„„, lo not ,„.,„, „„„ t„ g„ i,,,, ^|,„ ,|_^^^^.|^ ^^ 1 ;;.»;5;:;':rr^,:::s::::r;L:;:::r»i Mr. MACKE.NZ;£._-Ha„. ],„,„■. V.'ljat is tl liey are made,' str le evidence that ■onger year by year. What are they? 's unmistakeuble as to the position of the poor man, the \vui!< noeessarilv to wm-'. Ill:,' mill, takiir' tin' u SSCS o f tl for (li to 1878, iucl iviiiL' ] What is the n H' pcojil,. wliu liavo •suit f Fi„m 187t il; sue, tlic'v oiilv iiicroiiHOil tli ■ir.l by .S-',.'5UO,0()(), i„ I: (•itosits HI tliosavin''s lia: 7.') aii.l 1S7*; tlicy were iihsolutclv less tl lan till' previous yoars, an.!, in ]S 77, were iiicrtMstvl, liv tlio fact that a dis- astmiis fin, U.ok ,.!acv in th,. nty of Si. John, an-l oldaini'il tjici th I' in.siii-aii('( parti, ■s w ho — in the lianlcs of New | hanks as they (•onj,! ,i„ H ■< cMuld not gi't .'5 iicrcciit.— no, nor 2 iht cont, riiiiswirk". ami so dcfiosifocl them in thu savin-'s will lout limit. Th lai-''(> Miav sav tho wli' ^f thi pfllpOI'tioU- -[ who ha .1 I iiu-K-aso of 1S77 was due to polirv holders, txvivcd their insurant's [.larin:,' t!i-ni there, not requirini,' them immediately. Ih.t indudin;^ the inereased deno.its of 1877 and 1 tl 8/8. le ineivase in ilv( interest that was a Ide 1 f itl years was only .>:i-.>,300,00(), ,„• la-a.'tieallv al.oiit tl le the iirincii)al, wheiv.is diiriu-' the last ft our years they have dep .sited, ill cxeess of tl And, what is K< sums withdi'awn, 813,000,000. in 1878. of .S;]0, 473,028 more, tlie deposits in tin; banks, wl liieh were SGG.tOlj.SlG were 89G,ST9,.-)U, on tho 31st Decemder, 1882- in f, >nr ^•>.al■: N, creased deposits, and is not tl of this country are i:i a hcttc an incrcaso we have 813,000.000 in- lat ii pi'oof that the masses of tho peoph fiv o years, they could only lav I jiosition than they were before, when. in think it is needless fo is butter oil' iiosv than it was then ; tliat than they were th tl >y, ineliidin;,' interest, 8-,300,000 ] I r me to say any mor? to establish that the country men are earuiiu' better warros Ml reeeivim.' and that th ley requi, e employment. Tlieir suvj returns of the banks, and their puivhasiag po goods they have used in th ■y are employed wherever Mus eiriiings are shown by tho wer by the (juantities of tl us s.hould !),. a snilieient answer to tho fi.M is country, both imipoi ted and manufacturoil geiitleiiuMi at that ti nr ^• rs o.\[»ressod bv the lion. k-hat ow. Sir, that was ono fbav tliey expressed under t! were some of the others I Why, that trade with (Jreat Brit un. lis ])olioy would dimini.sh, and trade luul we were charged with being disloVal, because would increase introduced a policy which would iiicvit- was stated lieie distinctly on the floor of this llou reason wliy this policy sliould be reiccted. AVIiat with the United State- w, vbly produjo that effect. That se, a md given as one aresimi)!y those : that l;i re the facts ? They year the imports from Great Dritaiu wc re I.'i 81.1,000,000 ,„.„x. ,lu„ ,l„.v „-,.,v i„ is-.. ,r, , . «•■•« .Im-i,,,. ,1,0 «,„„. ,.,i„,| j; ,„, . ; ' "]■"'"> I;- 'l™. .Ley '■"."-•... i.:rto.,ku, „.,„...«,;■.,. I, '"-■. ■ '■■' ' '■ f *'■-'""-'■■" '-■"■-->.- '^':rs:r;:::r 7"';° 800,,., .„„,.,„, ,.„,„ ,:;,„, ,„„„.„ „„.,. ,,;„.,:',„:';; ;■ •' .^ ™ ki,„l-,„„| u,„t,vc.i„ ;! ""^'7-"" !«•'■ "■"'. - something of „„.t -u.,u.s...,:j:;iz°:t:;r;::::ri:rr IVo>v, tl„! „al,„.e of ,„„1 |i,„i,„,| ,..,,,„ . ,, "-"'"■'■ ""> '•'''' •I'".'-. u„i.„ ,s.,...., Co.,, .„„., .„: ;" : :.:;:;":;;:;, °- ^•■»"' '"e therefore, the fears of mv Imn f • i '^^"''''' ' '^"''. ^i»roi,o.,.' c„„; ,: 7 .::;:r;::;r '"' "*">-.-'■» "» i> r, >vL,i(> luiit tills nniifv wmii.i i 1 extent, establish an e.nili,.,.. between o.ir iL : s I " r^ ^7"^ vas expressed th,it our expectations would not be reali ed T', i;" hon. leader of the Opposition, in the remarks th.t 1 , Address in reply to the Speech from the T^ 1 ''^' °" *^'" absence of any reference of • *'" .^'"■''"^' ^'"'^^^ attention to the anj reference to this subject in that Speech Well l.^ . ay for his information-he n.ay, however, in lookin. over t ' have ascerta ned it alreadv Ipf n,„ . ,• ' » °^er the jiapers, cUSerence between the ex .oH ' ''"' "^ *'" ^'"'""' ^''« tween the exports and imports avera-ed A] 2 "jQ OOn ,.. year ; during the second four years, it averaged P3(3 000 000 ^ lu the third four years, it averaged $15 000 000 '^^'^"^^ '"'• ^^^'^^ > last four ,ears, that is from isfs to lls^ t, " ""'"' ''"'''"' '" I fe : U cfFect ill estalilisliiii^' ;iii eij'tilibriuiii l)i;t'.vt;t!ii iii.;o:iii! iiU'l ux;tcii.litiin'. Now, Sir, th'Tu Ii;i:s Ijlm'U sorinj anxiety iiianile.stnl in tlii' country, ami I tliiiiic It was aisu iiiaiuftj.stod \)y tin; lion, leader of lii',' 0[t|)03ition, with lefi'ienee to tiie eHoet that must uecessaiily be i>ro(Uiceil if our exports are not e(|ual to our ini|iorts. I tliiuk 1 galiierel from him t!iat he had grave; doubts as to the early I'ulure of our country if tliat state of tilings cou- tinu 'd. If I am correct in my recollei'tiou (jf the views he exprcsst'd upon that occasion, he dillers from some of the hon. geutli;- iiieu wiio sit near him, hecauso I have licard them state in this Ilonso tliat tlu! greater the dllferenco betwcim imports and exports, the greater evidence was tlim-e of the increased w(!a!th of the country. From the discussion that has taken place upon this subject, it will not be expected that the Ciovernment should entertain that viijw. Tlio ojiinion has b(!en expressed thi-ougli the press that, owing to our increased imports, a commercial crisis is not far oil'. T have thou^dit it my duty, occupy- ing the position [ do, to emjuire into this matter, and to sej whether, during the last four years, there has bet;n any evideuc.i of tlie ap[U'oach of such a crisis arising tVom this cause — tliat is, in the demand for exchange or in the facilities or nanins of paying for tln'se imports. Now, ah; we had to ))rovide, during the last four years, not only .$33,000,000, being excess of imi)orts over expo'ts, but we had to provide for (>xcliange to the amount of §32,000,000, interest on debt and sinking fund — -these items amount to an average of about §8,000,000 a year — and, of course, it is ^uite proper for lis to consider whether or not wo are in a position, and liave been in a i)osition for the last four years, without creating embar- rassment with reference to exchange in making payments on tiie other side of the Atlantic. Are we in a position, and have we been in a position, to mejt tills amount witliout any dillijulty wliateverl lam satislled ]^^r. Speaker, that we have been able to do it without embar- rassiuent or ditliculty. You add the §32,000,000 transmitted during the four years to the §33,000,000, the difference between the imports mid exports, and you have §05,000,000. How has that been met ? There are c(,'rtain data of a reliable character that A'e have, and from it I am satislled that this amount has be.m met witliout any diflieulty 15 w:L;::!:!r:;;-;;^/--.™orc,,,,,., „„ , I ... I a,i ,;„;"!"•" '" !-^r"" "'''■■•y'-'^' > " ti..- .1..,., "- =•■" ^ ts ,T ''''"'' '"" <^'^'>-i'o,thata,.iouMt.sto.c^I7-,OOOOo''T. T "" " ^•''"^-' "f the ei.OOCOOO ..eeeivoa o^ i^^''^ j -"- ^..•. th.e has .„.. .,„,, -"-Sthat peno,L The, "" ^^7 " Tt "'"'' ''^^^'^ " '"^^ '-"s. -.1 capital stock o t^Cr^H^P r r'"''' '-^^ "•'""-* '"-.t 613,000,000. It was stated Xh""' ""'*"^"'^"°-^'-- of the Address iu reply to tl e t "^ ' '""'"' ^" ^''« «^'^^"">I-. count., ,, i-.ni,.u!f: . :::t; :: ''- ™^"t '"'""^''^ ^-^^ ^'^^ '^^•t I talc a lo. esti„u.te, I vm fit r/""""!''' ^^ -'^''^^^'^^O ' ^.u;ye..s. Havi„,p.ov;ded;!l^;^^::::rir'T^'7^" ^''° fund, and the exchan-^e necess.r. i ^"^'""f^^ ^'''^'-f^t and sinking Hnports and expor(s-we have on tl ■ '"'"'' ^'■'^^•*^"^ 3^,000.000 in excess of the :ie:: TV'T"' '^^'^^^'^^^ - I tluuk our fears as to the future n X . '^' "'^"^' ^'^'^^ ^'''-""«^---. ^eep, as we l.ope to keep hrthR ? '""'''' '"'"''^'^ -« -- and exports n urer than t 'J '' ''"' '""" '^'^''- -"I'orts -7to.n,or.jrs^™:Ts:r^^rf'"--'-" case jf .ve can keep the proportion where i t • t^'A '"' "" '^ ^''« «ay that I for one, do not look nnnn . . ! . , . ' ""' ^ ''^ "°' ^^^'^'^^'^ to unmixed blessing. If tl : uj)on Ije a very lar-e increase of imports peoj.le are in a iio.sition t 'IS an ■0 consume the goods '..' ^^^^m^ 10 wliicli coiiio into the coimtiy — if tliry Imvc the |)urcliasinf,' ]po\vi'r, it is iiii evidcnco of tlidr wcaltli. TIio Iculi'i' of the OpposiHon failed tho attention of tlio Hdu.sc to a ri'inark wliidi I niado to a personal friend — a merchant of S(. Jolm— and I suppose I ropeateil it in pulilic after- wards — to tli(! cfTcet tliat if I were liis a;,'e, and engaged in business, [ would put on tlie M'liole of tlie canvas I could carry for ten years, and tlion tak(! in sail. I helieve, fi'imi tlie fact that wo are Hi)ending aniuiallv a hirgo amount of money in ojuning u|) and developing the great North-West country, fiom tliL- fact that the popidation coming inio the country at the presetit time are liringingin a large amount of monev for investment, from the fact that, last year, we had of tho value of imports over $1,000,000 of settlers' elTects— and which will be increasing, and which, of course, does not creat*? any ditliculty financially. 1 hold that tlie return of tho pendulum— which always does come back— will be deferred, and that we have seven years of prosperity before the country. If, Sir, our business men are not carried away by our pros|)erity if they do not imj)ort over and above what the recpurementsof tho country absolutely demand, if they do not, in their anxiety to do business, trust men who will not pay them— then. Sir, I say there will be no difHculty whatever, in my judgment, for the next seven years, with reference to the commercial condition of the country. So I hold that the fear which was entertained that we would not be able to establish the equilibrium between the exports and imports must, to a great extent have been dispelled, because there were $8,333,000 as comparetl with $12,000,000 for the first four years; $36,000,000 the second, and $15,000,000 the third, which shows, tliat with the prosperous times of last year, and the large importation which took place, tlie balance was only $8,333,000 against us. Then, Sir, it was stated, that this policy, being at variance with the policy of the Mother Country, would create a bad feeling there, and the result would be that Great Britain would be anxious to throw us off in her indignation. Not only so, but it was said that it would aflect our credit abroad. Well, Sir, has it affected our credit? I cannot .see that it has. Year by year our position is bt!coming better. As I stated on a former occasion, in 1879 our securities were 4 or 5 per cent, below those of New South Wales, which stood at th(! very top of the list. To-day, we are 2 per cent, above !',""'■ "' ■•■''"■""■""-I--.... ,i,„„ „„„,,,„„,„, «1-OCO..,I.S of <.l,r 1 ,,„l . ■,• ■ 'l''|H»itra« i„,„.|v st.ilio,„„-v »•,. l.,,l 1 ""'- ' ''■»•■ *ot ,,„: e,o,o„o i :, '":: -";'" '■■' '■■ «'■ ■ k.. -•..;";.,.,,„.,„,,„ „.^„ wL: :■::;::•■■■' '- - .1... Knsii»h ,„„k.,. .„„, „,„, ,„„ ,^ ";■•■' I - -.i. I'ocaus,., ju.art, f,„>n ' '"""^ '" Minrl m,.,,,,. ■•o-nis,, apart fVo.n urn- n,al,u.i„.]i,,,ili,i;.^. SIO.OUO.OOO.hieh.ohaveta.^.:;i-t ''*''' ''''^"--' tlweo or fo,„. years - if we can ■ h v. '-'-"^' w,.. ,1, ,, *''"^:'''^-^'-'''teoftheeon.ph.tio.oi-th.Cana,,i: .. r «"q"'re to so to the Endish .naiKt , ''"^^ ■'>'*•• ^^''^•^''^-^•»y Ik. II. ;,'i'ii(l.'iiicii (.iijiositc. It was siii Dominion of Canada for shipment, and lie made out a Utrong case. Jlis aigiiinents would liav(i had a great edict if his con- olnsionH had liecn justilied liy the fads, lint nu'asiires were taken liy the hon. .^iini.ster of Customs, l.y which very ]itt](! ditliculty occurred in the tiansnii.ssion of the products of tlio Unit(Ml States through Canada in liond. It was found that thei-e was a large increa.sc in 1878-79, and 1879-80, hut in 1881 a falling oil', as compared with 1879-80, and hon. gentlemen opposite calhni tin; attention of the Hon.se to that fact. A very largo falling olf in the exports of tiio natural jnoducts of this continent, both in the United States and in Canada, occurred. J!ut I may state here that, during tlio past year, thfi-o lias been an increase of nearly $1,000,000 in the exports of American products from the Port of Montreal alone, and the cpiantit)- would have been much larger Iiad it not been for tlio failure of tlio corn crop, which alVected the cxjiorts from the American ports as well. The falling otF in the exports from Canadian ports has been in about the same jiroportion as the fallin," off at American ports ; but liad it not been for the failure of ti.j Indian corn crop, tlie exports would liavo Ix^en as large as they were in any year from 1879 to the ]n'eHont— excejit one. It is quite clear, however that up to the present time there hns not been a falling oil', but an' increase ; but that incicaso lias not been as lai'go during the la.st year or two as it was for the two years previous. The Government liave always been exceedingly anxious to encourage this trade. They would have hesitated a long time before taking any steps that would diminish the volume of trade going from the ports of the Dominion. Our whole policy, the policy of both Governments since 1867, has been to do everything that the means of the country would justify to afford increased facilities to the shipjiing coming to and going from Canadian ports. Since Confederation §1,200,00^ have been expended in establish- i"«li^'I.ti,ot.s,.s, r„,.-wiu.si|,..s. ,.(,• in o,,l,.,. , • M- . I I '"ri < '"111 ui>' ('\ MMiili 11),, ( ,,. ,1 • . inm™c,l 8-,„,„„„ ., ' '.".'■' '"■ "-'■"" r ll"».- I,a, ,1, „„,„,„,„'•", '""-"■ ■""•■''■■«•"-. Tl„.„. ,i„„,, ,,„„ .1,,. i ..„;;"; "•■'■'■ ■'": ■"■ '- ■ ■■ '■-'»■ ■■ .„ "■^^■""•^ ::.::r;:;::: ;;::::::':;' '"■- ■'"•'■■' ^•^"' 1- I... .l.,ul,t a.s to tl,., poiiev of tl... C v "''"^ 1 . . 1'"'"'^ oi iiiu Uuvcriuiiciit nil (1,; wlH.'ii It is .vMiniil^.n.,! (l,.,Hf 1 . , '^ '"^ ""^ '|n.vstion, ..,.,„ w,,i I '"^■' ""'»■'" il." t™i,. „r ,1,0 :..ri .. u, ■„■ f "■■ ™ r- -■" '' ■ ..,,„. ; " »■« »ai,| ,|„„ „ . ■ °"'' "" ''"'■'■'■ '■'■'■"• "*"". «"•■ 1 .i,ai if • „ ,;"", '"■'."■" '" '" ■" '■"'"■'■""■ -'""'f ;- -*'^ --»:'::: rr:::!\;;,: ' ;' fail one way 01- tho otlim. t •. "'"^ "' ■' '''1''""" •, an.i nui.st ;■■". >«•»..» i«.f„,.e .,* ,„,,,,„.„„ c,„,,L,. :'■,','"■ ■ ' to bo a Protect ve Tui-iff T l,.,vv. . <• .• i-'i'l Juis failed ^'"I--tant to .ivo in liitio, t ' • """ "'"' ' ^'''"^ ^^ - •-u.l.ttotl. aUe wl , " ^"'^r"" "'^^ '""^^ ''-' 1^- imported into Camilla for nvinnf..^ • '^'""'"-'' "^ ^^-^ol agamsty,G4G,G3nb.s. i,i LSSl.So .,..•. J... ' :.'''' '^'"'^'W-i lbs., ' I>ui' cent., besid ail inci-cased con «um2)tioa of our o',v II wool. Tl OS io raw cotton imported lio i. ill l.S77-7Mi»,Mi«'.> ll>s, or ai; iiiorciist' of over lUi |w.|^ wiu. Notliiiii,' iMU slinw in.., iic;-iiiiitclv tin; increased tiiumir.ietinv ot , dtdii i,mu In t!i;iii tin- exteur of tliu iiiipoits of l'!i\V liiati'lial, l.reau^e Wc |i|()(liiec no riw cotliili ill tlie COllIltrv, With reterelice Im lii,l,w. |u |.S77 7S tlie Value of (li,. iiii|ii)rtM \va, $1/J(t7,;i(lll, whil,. ill IS^l sj tlie value was Ji<2,L'0i),(l()0, ati iiieiease nf lieariy IIM> |iei'er:;i. 'I'lieii ill,' e^i>, -J.-.^:),:.''.!; t,.iH, an increase ofS.TJ.SiM; t,.ns. Tint hIiowh the extent of the il.'inalel fir the art i,-le that is liecessaiv t'l create tlie power to drive the iiiicliiiiei y of our various industries in Caim 111. 'i'liell We have iiiiolher te.st. My ex|ieiieliCH lias lieeil that, <.'o wlnTi' you will, (he iiiamifii'iiircrs of iiutchiiiery are t'ull of onlers — so fill fail, that they art! iiiialile to siijiply their customers, who arc, thereloro, obliged to onlcr troiii the I'liited States in soiiio caHCS. Wiiensver wo i,'o, we tin, I tin' in iniifaetiirers sinLlin;; and lookiiii; jierfectly salislied with what they have to do. In 1877-78 tlio value of the inacliinery imported into CaiiiKhi was .*-'S3,G33, while, in lH8l-8-\ it. was iiicieaseil to 8l.',l'.»4,i Ki, an iiifi-easc of nearly 7n(» pop cent., besides the greatly increased ipiantity of machinery maniifactureil in the coiiulry — which give iinmistalcable evidence as to the incrcasi! el our niamihicturing industries. As to our friends' fears about tin progress ■! our nianufictiiriiig industries, I Ihink these facts ought to lie siilliciont to > ,,u)ve them. It was also alleged that tlio Tarill would increase the price of coal, and would not promote the develop- ment of the coal beds of Canada. In 187!), I stated that the opinion of the Government was that in four or five years tlie quantity of tlie coal raised in Canada would increase 400,000 tons Within four years it lias increased between r)l)0,tlO() and 000,000 tons. It is, tlierefoic evident that this poli.y is developing the coal beds of the Dominion. 1 may state that ii, Novc votia, at two points within a short distance of the coal mines, the consunij >;■ i;f -oai this ye;ir by two manufactories will be 70,000 tons in exiev; . ' -h.it ci last year. I think tliis is pretty good evidence that, as U-v ih ; e (ii vclopmoni <-.'• this particular industry is concerned, the jiolicj Jius Li'.'n a .success. Then, asrain, there was 31 ■""■"'■■■■ ''"''""O- ■■.J.;:':i:;:;:;:;:r,:;::M, ""t Ji(nvc\(.r tliMf (Ilia . 1- , , 'II. Ill's, |( „,i.s sail " :."":':!;;::::'':,:::':::; "-:— ..-^-j '-'■ ti-t it w,„,, : ':7''\"' "'■■ ■■■—■'I ,..i.- .,r,„„„, »„ "M .y*.,,,. N,„ ' r '"" "■ ■'.'■■' " '■ '<'■'" ■i'T."i r, ,i,„ "--■.■,.. :'::: :;,::r;™vr"v ''"■'■■'""•*«■ m,im},,m) ii,.,„r ,,.,m,,i .„ "'■" i»' •!«■ «.«<■, «.„i if i,„t » i-'^'H In ..,0 ,,..,:,: ;" ;,„ ',;r;^' r '-"■ ""- «- tl.0 amount ,„„l , 1, ,„ ,„„ "' "" '^''"' " l'^'"' "U' t.-iuie v.i.I, the sw, ..1 • '■^-•-•■'*t"l.li,sIn„L.iit of out- »l.icl. tlm 0„vc,,„„e„t .,„,! p°.'"°l' ''«•"''"' '»"»■»« ».. in,l„,,l,y -.kmUon ,l,oi, objitio,,,. " '"■" '"'''-^ "' °" I-™ to Ml-. PATEKSO.N' (Umnti WMi ,i t • »,' iii 0') .SiiI,ivt\Ai;i)'i'iLfj;\-._i ,viii 1, not ill this II (■ \i-ty ljii|.|iy to do .so. DIISI' 111 1 lli:inc(! .M l'':^"!, hut I ica.I [till' I'.iid.'ct dclxit I w c. The tl IS mister cxjircsstMl rcLirct tliat tl icn mistei- tu ivply to liis I!iid-ot Siu'ccli. (. II TO w.is no ox-FiiiMi ICO olitaincd tVtMii a ''I'litli'inan who 'oiisideriri,!,' tlio rojily 1 10 not vciitiiK. to say aiiytliing of tho kind may find tliat [ may moot a nioiv i'oniici ly. I uiidor.staiid tlio h was iKit an cx-Financc Ministor, J \vi ^G,G8S) 000 ouse which are vor the producing ]iower of coiuvnied. ] have jotte.l down here a few of or ciifhtec u items, oi tl 10 articles, 'J'l ley are worth ^avin-,' to the If 1 wo received, during the last :is compared with 1877-78. 01 ISO. () ii.s compared with 1877-78, au increased a Mines wo received, last year, Custon I'cvenuo of !I.y con U. OH,, ,„,,,„. I\Iay I say that there has nLl na J- m the htstory of this country, wla.n ta.a.ion was paid more '••-'■'.lly W the people, than the present. We do not hear anv .umLhng al,out the rate of taxation ; on the contrarv, as long as nu. •- prosper„,g, as long as they have n.oney in th, ir peckets. a: long as . y 1-e plenty of employment-and it is the duty of everv Cov^n- >"-'t am the repres.mtalives of the people to see that the masses, as far us possd.le, have these-they are in a contented conditiun. Sir this to -y JudgnK.nt, estahlishes pretty dearly tlu.t the Tariff has pro^vd itself ;;':^;''yi-t-.ive,,:utl,eyo,ald,,u,,t, aievenue-prodttcingTari,.; I tinuk 1 have answered the several ol,jeetions raised hy hon: gentlen.en "M>osaeinl8.1,. A great many more o,,ections were m^ and a ^.•eat many n,..re might he answered, In.t I wiU satisfv mvself . i,h !u.se (or the present. New, Sir, I d.sire to call the attentmn of the K""-, hefore J take up the expenditure of 18S3-S4, to the changes that |Uo invposed :n the Tarilt to he suh.nitted in Committee. I may sav that hese propositions are submitted with the view, in the first ^laeJ of reheving the country of S1,000,OUO or Sl.i:50,000 of taxation and' ni the s,.cond place, they are subndtted so as to give, wherever wl can' -bat we felt .e could not saf^dy give in 1879. because the Tariff was len to some extent an experiment. Articles that are raw material to the manufacturer are free. U'e did not do so in 1.71., leea.rse we were not cpute sure that the operation of the Tariff would give us all the revenue we desired But finding that it gave u.s n.ore than we want..! .e proposed, la.st Session, ar.d now we continue that policy, to lal- Ke ell tlio -rm J 21 10 an.i l-r cent. ,lMty nil ^o„.l.s thiit kio not nmmifactuiTl in tho conntrv ivc t,iic iM'.v in iti'i'ilil to tho ni;iiiul"ictiifei- fi tnay lm\o tiic iM^ndii, of tli 1879, iia.l w,- f, .'I', ill (ji-iIiT tliat lio \V WMuld havo taken that I'onrso m t ijuiff more tlian tliat, w- \hv\ tliat '■■ftaiii as to tlio elll-ct to 1m' prniln^^oil. But uiii- cnli'i-iirisin;^' nii :'iI)oiirs to tl !•' soil t!i of us Iiavc mado nji tlicir niimls that, it sncli a th liavc for their in;' is iMisslhlc, li l''V wi niinnfaediivs the niarlcet of Canada at: anv Diici cuhirsarehei!:-,!istri!,.,te,l with r.;f\.roaeo to cerf.iin arlieles, and we ley could L^'t our market in- a year ui- two tiiev liiid that if t! Weill liave th( niirkt ■t for t! an eirort to ifet it. Iieretoi'e l"ili' sharp competition from outsij, 1 take lip tlif Free J.ist in liio llrst place. W Free List, ajj;,iteH, rubies, pearl.s, sa}i|)] o pro[)oso to add to tin ares, emerah Is. jiolish make a clian<'e, and it is ( Aniline dyes are now on tho Free I ist rarnct but s, Glials ip; not lis That we [iroposc to lbs. Hlia 11 bo i roe. A h iuiiline dyes in packages over a Canada in small packages, and ^vo are adoiit • inantily of this article is imiiorted into ciple with reference to this articlo that wo did witl s put up in small packages. Under the prcst ing jirecisely tho same | prui- seed relerenco to garden nt arranLrement tho paper comes in free, and the la1>onr also is untaxed ; wo propose that all packages of less tluin o lbs. shall bo subjected to 10 per cent duty. Celluloid in sheets, lumps or blocks, dry colours, metallic oxides, cobalt, roe List. Diamond drills for pros- zinc and tin, are also added to the 1' pecting for minerals : these are frequently brought into tl Lave been sulijected to a duty. They were b country and wrought iu by niou who •2r> „ . •''''''■■'"■'""•> '"l- till- j.lll'iioSO <.t Wi'Vfl- oi-m- the mineral resourcvs of tl„- mnntw ..,,1 u- . . r. ,• II,, , "Junii\,,ujl wo ask I'iir hiuufiit to .Ik «,. 00 to,,,,, a. for ,lv ,,.,,,,„,„.,. „.,„ „ ,„„ ,„',,,„ :""■',":""'""■■"■■"""-" i..vi,„ .,,,„.,. „„., n,i, , 7'°"''"'."" '■"■'■■ ■'■■. l-,'>o,.„r. „,.-„,,,, ,,„„„„, , : , 7""" '" '"" '' "" ""-■ '"' '•'"•• ■'■' • - •■- " ' I"'-.™, ■„„.,.„., ,„ , ,. „„,.,,„, ,„^„ ,,,„^^ ^^,,^.^, ^,^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ o,,,,.,, „ , ,,,, „„,.,,„,^ ,,,^, ^^^^_^^^^^^^^ ^^. ^^^ '■"» I. 01 M'.,.,. ,,„,l v,.,.,o,„ „,1„.,. „.,„„1, rt.wj„,t „„„ ,„v,, ■•„ „..,. orat. duty ,,»„„, N„r,„.,,,i,..|.,,n..|., in ,■ , I '>" -" I" ' v,,i„,„.„ "■"■'■"<•'>■■■ l',»„»'.l ,1, tl„-,„,„,„(;.clun, „f ofo„ „„„ „f„ct„,-c.,, „„ ,„.,icl„ of i,„,,„rt„„,,, ,„„, ,|„„,,.f„^,„ „,,,,,.,. „,„,,,„, , „„,.,„,,, ,_ . , .,.^^, ^^,^^^^ ^^ ^^^_ ^ i ',,'" """"' "■ »'""'■«■ •■"^«»- t'.» ly ,. »..l,.,- co„,i,„. into the ooiintiT naid .hifv n., , • i • ' ='"-. live .,t„;.,, ',„, ,,,"!,,.,:;':'"'''■"""'''' ■'■'^' »"""' p., ;„.:;::?" : '"r" "-" '™ ""-'-' - ■■■"'" --,.i;„.o„t ^ of i-aiiiainoiit as almost ivtiy su.ieet til. t- I>., . 1 i- ,. , -^ f'ti'-jtcc tiiat lias Leeii reteii'cd to— tluit is thf. 'luestioii ot (lutv on hooL-u \ . ^ ; , , ' '• '^ '■"''>' «t''0"^' t>''«sure lias beou broii-ht :oTn:,:i : ::rr""T '-."'""" ^»^» '•« »'«">- '-.^.^io::: ' ., .,i„tl.,| l,„, ito Ciover,m,e„t foim,! it w;,s „„t ,,os,ii,l„ to eapahlo men as tii ■^■ly that all boolcs should he admitted 'J im loubtedly are. We could not iVeo. because the manufacture of I^i I! i-,. *■■'■ liooks luul till' j.rintiu'' inJu.stiv of tl WestiitL'd (liMiuctlv \vl country aro iii)|>ortaiit interests. icn wc ini •» ]»■>■ cent., (li;,t il wa.s fur tin; nni-p,..s." of po.sed :i duty of 1") ),rji- cent., iis iitjiunst ill tlie |) oncoura^'ini,' tlioso industries "n.iniun, an.l, i.fler -i\ inj,' the ni.itter ii good deal of considi nld -AL tion. we did not see that wo e. was a (jiiosliou with tlio Cover Kul.jcct ])raeticaliy, in order tliat th not in \vh I mler th ■e to the i)ro|)osals made; Imt it nnient how far wo could deal with tlie •ir wislies might In; met in part, if •se circumstances, wv. decided to suhmit th Jiroposition which I shall li Free libraries asked to have their hooks fi wlio do not live in the neighbourhood of free 1 feel it a groat injustice to I felt that wo could not ask ia\o the honour to present to the House. ■ee, this gi-anted, individuaN, ><• a gnevane(> by any (ioveriimont or iliraries, would, of course, compoUcd to pay 1") per cent. duty. We exceptional legislation, otherwise there would Ami, therefoi^e, we i>ropose— and it will involve the vv seven years, or printed loss of .-;.)n,()00--that Looks hound, printed ov free. This will cover, perhaps, half t scientilic association, ami not for tradi slia 11 he import of hooks, the duty collected last year being about 8100,000. It will cover bock dead langua!.'es, ref s m the books for libraries, a large portion of the books re<|uiredfore,lucational institutions; but when iK'opie wish to obtain eronco the novels of the present d ly they will be re(|uired to pay 15 per cent. ; publishers of Canada the and this will retain in the hands of tho book l)ul)lication of such books as they have been publishing. X gontl said to ni(! th(' other day : •' It you 1 eman '.lot published ly down the principle that book;: 111 Canada shall bu admitted free, what would I all*' dot 1 would go lo the United State.- aii an< juiblished tl lere, an d 1 I have my books )rui;' lli'Mil I both markets, and there won. I i)e n l>ooks i)nblished in Cjunla, but, on t! n duty free. 1 would thereby have inducement for nie to have my contrary, there would be au indwcei ncnt to go to the Tnited States and puldish them th .Mr. .MACKEXZIM— Did I und. 'I'stand the h say that all eilucational 1 ere. jntl ion. gentleman to lOO cs wouhl be admitted free ? Sir LHOXAUl) TfLLIIV.— No. ] 3ooks of ever )iiinted over seven years. :s\i: .Mackenzie:.— I mui y descri[)tion derstood the h on. gentleman to .sav that booki used in educational institutions would be admitted free. ""■"•'■» ""'I '■ i".-< f.„- si,i;,<; f,:,„" ■ ■ ""- "'li-'-i •■•. 01..™,.,. ""i»s,,, „ „,„, „f ,; :!;;:;■;' ;'■;-'« - "»■ ^ ..,., ,.,,,,, , „,. i'>*». ..N.I i<„„. ,;,, ;,,:"' "'■■":■ "■'■'■■ ''■■ « i» ...■ '■.■'...■.■.»...,....■■ V 1 "' ': "■'■' ' ■«■■.«.■...-,.,, i„ ,w .-1 ui,„i,;„ ' ' ;'■»." » 1 *,„„.., .i„. '.■■»...'.' i...o ,„o o„„:;; ;, 7';;:"; ;;;:, "- i-;n-».-..e.u,» ,.,..„„ «.i..|.i..g Ad. „o,„„ i,; f,„._;, """ ' '■"■""'■'»■ "■■•'.■■■ "..■ -M...r.i™,t i"'«i..»..i «, „„,,„, „,;, ; ' ;'"'• ""'" ■".'..«.-. .....1 it i. l'o.ni.,i,.„,to.,,„. „t„. , '""""" '" "'" '-"l-t."-OH of ,1,0 '^■'-.^ "..■ .......... or :;;:::,'■'";,: :;,;;™'"^»«';"ii» '.-■ ...» co,„|,l,.,e,l i„ , , ■; ' "'""■'"'"■■ '...'il '1.0. o|,c.,.„tio„,, TI.0 Govc„,„„,„t „.il] ,„|„„it ' .■ "' "•' S'"."..." i...l...,.t..,c.c.. "ill k- i.ai,l o„ „|1 ,,i„ i,.,„ , ' ° ■ ;'"'"' ""■» .'■»"•.". f 1..5'J |.«- Ici ^' ...Mo„ ,„„,.„ i,:,;:::t::^r:; :rr ''""•-' ...«..t ..m, ,lovd„,„„o,„ of „,i, i„,- .' ■'-• '.».".!>• '.... II... c.„c„„,.ago- M....|.le in Mocfe, ,ift„e„ „„, ™ ' ' ■ I"'''"". "".I". -^ .« Lo f,.«.. «■'" '.« I-.™; a...l »«-„ .la„ . ' „ r;: »" >■"■.' ■" I- •».'.. "■'".. ■■ .->™ « « i.> ,1,0 , .,, ' '' ' '"■'■ =™'- "■■" l» "' !-■ Otto of ro.ses will ho fr( onliiiiuy form, tl n.a Lit i.s, sawn on both .si.los iniiiii Nsau will be f ree. :'eods luuse. ;■? ^\ 28 '"'";'"'"'•' '^■' ' ^""' '••"-;.'"-l<, will 1.." IV..,.. S,,„,.s an,l stilts for f^'Hl,.uw.ro ,nal<,.rs ; saMsa^o skins ,„■ casings „„t cl-an.,! ; va!..,iau ;"ot; w,n. nf luass or .o,,,.,. ,,.,,,.,1 op Hat, will U. (V,... Wire of '-" "•; ■■<.-l, K.nvanix,.,l o, ti,u,...I, li,„...„ .,„.,, ,„,, ,„„,„„,. ^^ •„ ,,„ ''•'•• HM.n.a„.in,l„s,n..siM Canada at tho ,„,.s.n.t tin,. on«a:;..Iin ''"""^"""^"'"' <• i'— ia^^" an,l n,,... Conla,. f^„. ship .n.n.s.s IH at ,,n.sout f.v,.. Tl,o n.ult is that . I,ih, a ,Iut v of i;^ ,„.,• ...,,t is ox.cU.,1 on that d<-sc,i,„ion of . i,., n,anuf:K.t,n....s \u.u han.li.a,,,...,! ; -;•! It .s ,„.o,.os,.,l, inasn.uch as w,- a,, not lilcdy to i...o.hu... th. lin.,- w.roof hft..on.a„.oan,I sn.alKtoa.ln.it .i.o used fW the n,an„fac- '"v of su.ves, and other work of that kind, ,lutv free. Steel raiUvav •-•s or rails, ,ish-,,lates and sheets for the n,anuf^.eture of saws are all ■^''-U.- free until the elose of this Session ; l,ut as I have a proposi- t.un on tins suhject to subn.it further on, I need now onlv to say that it - ...tended that f..,.. the close of tho Session, and afterJa.ds, that steel '■Huay l,a,.s or rails, fish-plates and steel f;,r tho n.anuf xture of saws, ■^"all I,e f.ve. I now eon.e to the articles, the duty on whieh we I-pose to decrease. The ii,.st is l,„ek,.an„ which ente.. hu^^ely into certa... ...anuf.ct.uvs, and now paying a duty of 20 per cent wo Fopose to .yduoe the duty to 10 per cent. BuUon covers 10 ,ku- int. J Ins Will aid industries established here, the cover for the butto.is l.ein^ -f ■ 1". i-^tead of 20 per cent. Coal dust to he '20 per cent, ad r.fora., u.stea.l of specific. This articl.. has boe.i brought into Western Canada and used by manufacturers. Under the p.c.sent ta.^ifl, oO cents a.Hl (.0 cents a ton have been collected ; if hard coal, the duty was 00 ooats ; and d b.tun.iuous, it was GO cents. This was a ve.y large ad valonnu duty o.r this article, which is us..! in certai,. industries in that section; and, the.vfo.^e, it is proposed to change this duty to 20 per cent, ad .dor.,,. Dried fruit, now 25 per ce,.t., to be 20 per cent. Lan.p black and ivory black, now 20 p.u- cent., to be JO per cent. Lead, nitrate and acetate, now 20 per cent., to bo 5 per cent., the same as dry w nte and dry red lead. Leather ; lamb, sheep, buck, deer, elk, and antelope, dressed and coloured or not, reduced from la per cent, to 1 per cent. This description of leather is used by glove makers. Kid tanned, dressed and coloured or not, is nowl.5 per cent. This is also used m the same manufacture. Lhp.orice p...ste, now 20 per cent., to ami stilts for nil ; \.ilriiim <•.!. Wire of aik'i-, will b« 10 (;iigaf,'0(l in I'lT fCIlt. 18 aiiilira|i|)('(l ; ucc tin; liner Llie iiianiifuo- kecl railway saws are all \(! a |irn|)o.si- ) say tiiit ib 1h, that steel lire of saws, I wJi it'll we Iaii,'ely into r cent., wo 10 per ci'ut. ittou.s Iicing )er cent, ad ito Western ll, r)0 cents iity was 50 ry large ad I'ies in that ■ to 20 per ^ I)er cent. ) jier cent. ■ , the same , ileer, elk, or cent, to ers. Kill, his is also V cent., to l^'' •'! rent. Marl,],. i„ ,,,,„.,,. ,;,„ ,„,,„.,,.,„„, ,,^,.. ""•''>•• fifteen cM.l,icf..ct, 10 ,„,,,, .„t ^1 , . f."nlov,,,.,,.,.. MM.l 1- -It., to 1.10 p.... J ,,:,r-^';:';'''''^^''^-''-- ■''-■>•-> valise makers, now p.. ;., , -'■ ""'"' '•i"""^'.- -uni. , 'I""'. — '" 1- c,,,,.. , , , " ; .'■''"■ "-■• "■"-'■''— '., i..ii.N.:i,.o .,,::::r7 :'■'■"''■"' ni,»i„t,. „,oo„i,,, r,„, , ' ■■ <■">•■""-■■.( I,„„„| i,, „„ o.. ....lu,,;:::^:, :;:;;— :.-;:::e,;rr"': --*- rrr -" '•'-"----'-'::'::^';::'':n fi-oniC„„„,i„„i„,r_r„,„s,„.,„,^, A,,,,.,.,, •» i-"« ..I Ca„..ii„„ ,„,„„ ,, ,„„„, ,.. ; - - ;-'« I r. :-'■"" -"'-"■•■I" '•.«'»'»i:::X ;:,:'x;::;;:''; make th,. .l„ty on iH-Ils-rxeept on hclLs ""l""'f'''l tnrHunvh pMrpusPs, which an. free -3(. percent S ,. r ■"-' ^''Hnvh purposes, :-::.t:;:r;:L:-;;:i:::::::t;r:'''""^ ^^HMIs,exceptch„reh hells sled! '""'''•"'•'■^'■''•'''•^ r<\ n r , "IS, Mi.ni p.iy a nnitornt miiv of .SO ,„;■,■., ^ Cloth of other materials than cotton or w„ilen ne, l' \ " cent Vni. n > "'"""• "I'i'l'' imiloiin, ;;(» |,er cut Lo, the .same reason, we thul it nee..ssarv ,o .le-.l wi,, „ articles to which I have j„st referre.l. Son,e,in,es • I " -iUi ref..rence to the material ot which • '^""r""^" cotton an,, part wool, ami in son,e cas.: p.. :r '''''■''' "''^'"^ f"'™'' """'■'■-'■"''■•''•■'''■I--.-™.: ,i 1,.,. ,„":,, :: ■" "-'^ ■'■'-i-*"n..» .uii.,,, .,,«:: ':;;:;:^ :■ jec. ,„»,,:,,!,, ,,,„,,„, „„„.^ , .„■ "■^"''■ a'.-..iti»,.■o■...»..l.o„„„<,.,„e,,•„„,„ „: „ •'',■» :'■ "■*■■'"■""'■ "»"• »"'"■'"■-■' - f^N..!. ■-:. „ , : "v;;;".: jams, now as canft'ctionerv, G ct.s per li ^i"'ei(ic. A dill i.a.lty : ^^^BHi 30 3.ns ,• ]!.., .sp.rid.. Mag.c laM(,.r„s and op.ic.l inst.nnu.nts, ,h,w acnoniini^ to nrntniai, to I'C L'., ,.<.,■ c...nt. The .lillicnUv l.as arisen, as to tl... n.at,.riai of wln.h thoso arlicLs w.ro ,na,l,., an.l it is, ihn.f.v., proi,os,.,l to n,ai<,. th. nU. of .luty d..ar, no inattn- wlmt nufrial is us.,1 in their numulaetu.v. ^..■k,.| anodes tu l,e lO per cent., san.e as now d,a,-e,l. This is to settle a .jucstion whid. has ari.en as to tlieir elass. Luhrieatin- oils the wonlinj^ of the Tuiir is d,an;,e.l. To avoid di.lie.dties. the vvoi-din.^ of the Tanll ,s now .o made ns to sdtie tlio rate of .l„tv • hut there is ;.o change as to the rate which ],as l,eeu collected l,v da- J)e,uutment HI the past. Vassdine and similar preparations of i.etrole„n.. in hulk r. cts. and m I.ottle, etc., G ct«. p.or lU. This is a case of the san.o kind. .Ir. BLAKE. -AVhat is the proposition aknit Inbrioiitin- oils ] Su- LEONARD TILLEY.-It is sin.ply to settle th. ,nestion which has been raised ; bnt the san.o rate of duty is now to be eolicvted I\Ir. ]3LAKj;.~Wiiat duty do vou fix? Hir LEONARD TILLEV.-^ltVenmins just as it was. Mr. BLAKE.- The hon. gentleman dues not state what he pro- poses to do ? «i^ LEONARD TtLLEY.-It is 25 percent. Then pocket-books and purses. There has been a cp.estion whether or not they are under the head.ng : trunk.s and valises made of leather ; and to settle this they are added to that list, in order that the duty may be ddinitely fi.xed. I now submit an important proposition in reference to woollen cloth, which is to be charged as woollen ; dress and costume cloths, under 2o inches wide, an.l not weighing more than tliree ounces per square yard, to ho L'O per cent. I call the attention of the House to this matter, because I think it is important. A great deal of ditlicultv has occurred all over the country in establishing a uniform rate of dut^ on certain classes of goods. In one locality, "i cts. per lb. and 20 pJr cent, has been collected, an.], in another. 20 per cent., and this rate is fixed for the purpose of defining clearly the dutv imposed unon these articles; and therefore the Department has fixed it in this way that the article being 25 inches in width or less, and not weighinc. over 3 ounces per square yard, shall pay 20 per cent,, while that which^is wider 31 cil.^::;:::;:^:;;,': :i,::;';:-";':"---' - "■•• .> ■.... ,, -"- .i'un,. ..;,,,'';;•'■•■- *'-'^^^'^^^ i'ii-a..,.,,. '■" fu„n,..tion «i,h tins .ul,j,.,t ' ' '' '""'■"^''•'' " -"-'< 'I'al ,.C .i,!li,.„|„. ''^'''' f-HoXA |;i) Til I FV__- ., -iJ'l tu,.koy and ,„ai,. J„ om ' r ''' "'" '■^''"" "'' ''-•> *- ^-^- Hgl. and left, an,l if 2^! ;"7 ^" "' """■" '""' '^'-^''- T^- Ontano Legislature have ^ i ^ 1 "" ^""" -""•'"'"- "'--. .t is .ore ,.opeH, within tho^.: 1 TTT '""' " '"' '•^■•■""^' to deal with the iH-ohibitiou of ex o t ' • 1 ^'^".""-" ^•-•'ia.noat ;i- ^ein, .t least, to ,.ohiLit the'e. o. i^::/ ,;V"'"'"T' '''" "" -•key. ana to impose a penaltv i„ eas J • '' ''"" ""' ^^"'' Speaker. I eon.o to the items in which T . "'"• '^■"^^■' ^^f'"" Acetic acidic a n,atenal which ; e rrr""""' *' ''"^^• the United States a duty is in,. ' T ^ '" •'^"■"""^''- '""1 ^'^ ^"t . is not imported inL^i:^::^:;;:::'':'-:::' '- -■■'^^•' ^ ^n applying that expensive test I T "^ "'" ^'"^•"'•""'-"t ^;V^et.tol5i ThelllCTtlr ^ T' •'"^^ aiticle, imported, bein- stroncmr,,! . • , ' ""'''''' ''"'t this porting it to underselftl ' ■ o oT' "71 ^""'" ''° '"^'•^^ """ -i-^ them, and in the sam way t e r^ V ^ T''''' ^^"^^^^"*- P^'";io acid with others. .ujJZZ^'VT "' "'^'"^ "'"■ evade the higher rate of dutv imposed " '^"' "'"' " "''''"' *" to pay 25 per cent, instead of 20 iilpi 1 -cent. Absinth '•ic. .Mixed aciils IS anothe are 1' article .'Iiicli i-, ilrij.oiti'd into ('iiiiiii|;i ; [ siii ll is to Ik' riillliil list ill til lit' iiinniimciiili li spiiits, luil it is irlicli' ij-lct iiliil it is |iin|Misf(i to iiii|ii).sc ii|ii)ii it ;t 'lu(y of t'lli'iis in It:- IMT ;;;illoli. :irt;cts, A I IIIUli- .f 1, ^S til. Ill ajincniiiiial n |ilick;i!.f.s, arc to |,;iy a ,\u\y o( 1(1 |„.,. ,.,.„t.; m| I'liMi.ts iiimI iiiacliincs to pay a s|Mrilic duty and w/ and iijioii portalile liiacliiiicH, s|.ii.l('s. Tiiliiri'iii duly i'(|nal 1,0 .'l.l prr cciit. Jio((S and (oiks till' hmiik; liiit \ wil ll' IIMIIIISI d. lias licrli iii.i ll' to til va.iic ol till il'i'flil d I'xanunalioii Koils, mid we caiiiii (o tli comliisioii tint a sjiocili.'aiid ,i,l r„l„r (Jovciimiciit inii If u tak till' list of tlio Aiiici'ican J lOUSOS in Wiiiiii|ii-^' you will find that tlicy oIHt thcii- at jirri'isi !v tl .i!,'rit'iilLuial iiii|il('iiicnts 10 SiiiiK; |)iier as oiii' iiiaimtactiirors liavt '11 SL'lliiif' tliom for, and in soiiio cases nici I who were ai;(.'iit.s for ouv 1 iianii till' Noi'tli-Wcst liavo 1.1 fact lifers 111 •come aLfciits for American 1 iiaiuifactiiier.'i, and a fair iiif'ci ence is that they allow thi'iii a larger mari'in tlia n our own ]K'o|ile allow tliciii. 'I'lic result is, that unless some sti pH are taken (lie Aiuericans will drive our people out of tlie market, and tliev will tl It'll increase price ol the implement to the consumer. Our peopli ites impi show tliat their jirices are as low as those of the United St ments, and we ask Parliament to .say— inasmuch as the people of Canada, who maniifactuie these implements, can pro luce them as cheaply and .sell tlii'in at from ll) to V) per cent, less than in 1878 and re prepared to .supply them as cheap as the A shall not be deprived of our own market, and therefo mericans — that they re we ask for thi.s increase in the Taiilf. Mr. ]iLAKE.--\Vliat a; I i-ah ornm ( luties ? lire theiiroportions between the specilie and It Sir s now Mr, LEON •lb j.e BLAKJ ItD TILLEV. — We projiose to make it cent. • );) per cent. -How much is specific? Sir LEONARD TILLEV. -About one-half. Mr. BLAKE.— What valoi-fm. duties ? are tli proportions of specific and ad c siicMiic and 38 -to Canada. th.i.,,.reets\c.in/;f:;r;t'^^ T" """ ^""^ '''''''■'•■^■'''•''•''••'-•■•'''••■Hor. an.Hlu.r ' ^ ""'' ^■"•"'•'*''' ""-' only u-ay to ,.oach sneh ca; to "'""""' ''"" '""'''' ''''' ''"' ''-'ty. IU..1 eo,„ro,.t.n an,. . „ Us „r''"'". "' ^'"'^'"^" -^"'^ «'' '•"/--" i"-'-I of 20 U c . 1^ ; "'"' ^'" '"^-^ '^"« ^° I-^ 30 por olnt. cent.. a..e to pay .. '^.,^'Z ^"' -^"T'"'"''^' "^^ ^'^-"^' "^'^ 1- ««/om« duty e,p.al to 3D per cent ... W^ «l'ecific and ««1»"« i» n,a.,„ i„ „,,,er to give tho Z:^Z2J^ ^T"'-"- ^"' " «' chance, which they have not „„„■ Z' '°"''«'' '" f»"aJa a fai,- |.<»ce„,., after the Ut J.n„„; e.t : 71":"-?' " ''^^' """ ^^ oaal,li,h„,e„ts for the mamictZ I .^^ ' ^"""- '^'""""■o Canada. When the T^ITTZ:^ ^Ts^r" ■'""'" '"'" '" Revenue tariff dutv Wl.pnpvn u .■ ' '''® ^'Posed only a «.ct„re it in Cnj: .^J^Xt] T '" " "°*°" "^ "™'- other,„.oete.goe*;bntnt;:.«noj:r "r'-^-'-^f-'-^- the Ut of January, it i, proposed .""'^"'""''y """"°'*c'".e before fo,ee until that dl. JeleT:l ' "f"' ""'^ '''°" "°' «" ■'■'» »■• Bilk, now 0., „er cent., It p„ 3„'™""' ""'' ""=■" ''■'* «"' Pa73 30 per cent, and it i^ 7oZ!'\ ,'""' T ^'^ """'-' "'- 3 •"'■>= propo,e„ to place the manufacturers of th, i. 31 caSfiB in H bettor position ]>y niakin;,' tlio duty on tli« nnuiiil'iicliiicd article 30 per cent. Cano or rnttan, split, to ».o 25 per rent. ; it is now 20 per cent. There is an eRtiiblislinicnt for ilic nmniifa.tm.' df nittiin Koods iit Woodstock. Tliey fiiiniMli tlio nplit auw to riiiiiitiin- nianufiic'iiirers, and tlicy furnish it of as g(.od .|iialily and as cluaplv as the imported article. Tills industry is capul.h." of being nia.l.i one of the nio.st flonrishing in the country, and it is desirable to give them some Protection. It being .six o'clock, the Speaker left the Chair. After Recess. SirLEOXARl) TILLEY.-When the Speaker left the Cliair I was calling attention to the proposed increases in the TuvlfW I think the hist article I referred to wua split cano. It is proposed to inctreaso the duty on cane from 20 to 25 per cent. It is also proposed to change the duty on fruit in air-tight cans. There is a different duty imposo.l upon fruit whicli is sweetened and fruit which is not ssveeteiied in th.^ Tariff as it stands at pi-escnt ; but there liavo been so many attempts to enter sweetened fruit at the low rate of duty, that I propo.so to j.Jace the same duty upon all fruit in cans— 3 cts. per 1 lb. can. Iron bed- steads, I propose shall now be classed as furniture and bo placed at 3.') per cent. On show cases, now paying 3,3 per cent., a specific duty of $2 is to ])e added. Hair cloth, now paying 20 per cent., is to pay 30 per cent. A first-class Article is now being manufactured in that line in the Dominion, and is sold at a price as low as it can be imported for and loss ; and the parties who manufacture it simjjly ask that they may have the market. Jute carpeting, matting or mats, now 20 per cent., are to be 25 per cent, ml valorem. Lamp wicks, now 20 per cent., an' to bo 30 per cent. I\Iusic, printed, now paying cts. i)er lb., I propose shall pay 10 cts. per lb. Fancy paper, now paying 25 per cent., is to pay 30 per cent., the same as wall paper. Iron pumps, in addition to the 25 per cent, duty now paid, to pay 50 cts. each specific duty. Steel in ingots, bars, sheets, coils, I propose shall j.ay .^5 per ton, on and after 1st July next, when steel will be manufi.ctured in Canada. Files, now 30 per cent., are to pay a specific duty : under 9 indies in length, 5 cts. per lb. ; 9 inches and over, 3 cts. per lb. Tin crystals are to pay 20 per It; inmln one of 3.5 "'••• topav J ctK p..; 11 "■'' ""•''"'"'« ^-"■" «'"' p.- i.. cans. u i.s_,„ („vo„, of the nmnufictMren of *1 SO . »i '.^^=o,,„;::::;:;r x-;;-^-. ;■»-... ^ "'• '" ""■ ".eanlin.e. This cove « v "'" "* ^^ ^'"^ I'^'" !'0.tiuu of the cotton .I„ck in.po.ted clnnnrt 1 ' " " ^' '"»" •'een i„.,o,.tecI for tl,e,se ,..,,,0 e- t ° T '"" °'" '"'^ ^'- in one ca«e 70,000 yj 7' '"" '""'^ *"""'' ^''"^ '""^■l' of it revenue by it, and as the nv.,., r . '''^ '^'''" l°«'"g ••-'-■ i^ i«;.opcs: ::::::: --^^ -"• ^^^ ^^^^ ^I'.ty to the in,i.o..tens when they Z7Tu^\Tr '' ^'"' '^^"^• -a fo. .ships' pu.-po.ses ana fo/s i J '""' *''" ^"^^'''^^^ -- -nufacture. is in a better nsti I'. . """"' '' '''''''' *'-' tl^''" i" a like po.sition. I ^t -t! t ut -t"; T' '^"' ^"^'^^''^^'-'^ -'- «'' I ^ 'iia> sute tliat within the I'i«f <-l>..o„ /• >i.c,cn,e t„. cxd,.„go o£ the natural pro- ■i ' 3G ductH unci n.anufacturo of tlio Dominion of Cana.la for tl.o prclucls of tho West Indies. The deputation was informed l.y the Govornn.ent tliat tlieu- proposition was perfc-ctly in accord willi tl.oir policy tluvt tl.oy were in a position to ask the House, providing such arrangements coald be made, to reduce the dnty upon sugar from all countries that would give us an equivalent by tJie reduction of the duty 0,1 the n.anu- factures and j.roducts of Canada. Instead of asking rarlian)ent, at the J.resent tune, to reduce the duty upon sugar and molasses, we propose to contnuie the enquiries we entered upon some time since, with the view of extending trade with the West India Colonies. We have, in the past, (experienced considerable difficulties, because these colonies have very little revenue to spare. We find them anxious that we should give favourable consideration to their productions, but when we ask for a reduction of ihe duty on Canadian products, they hesitate, because they find it difficult to surrender the necessary revenue. In reference to Cuba, we proposed to the Spanish Government, ih.ough the High Commissioner in London, to ask Parliament for a subsidy for a steamer to ply between Canada and Cuba under the French flag, we paying the subsidy if the products of Canada would be admitted on the t"erms which are extended to imports under the Sjuanish flag. That proposi- tion, after some consideration, was refused. Other propositions have been before the Spanish Government for some time, and down to the present they have not been successful, although, unlike the proposition in reference to subsidizing a steamer under the French flag, they have not refused them, and they are still under consideration. I can say on behalf of the Government, that it is their intention during the Recess to enter into negotiations with the West India Islands, and other su^ar producing and coff-ee producing countries, to see whether any arran^'cre- ment can be made by which we would be jusfified in submittin^to Parliament, when we next assemble, a reduction of the duty on su°c.ar and molasses, on receiving as an equivalent for it a reduction of dutv on the natural products and manufactures of Canada. In addition to that, we have been endeavouring to negotiate arrangements with France, by which the products of Canada may be admitted on more favourable terms than they are at present. Down to the present time, while the negotiations are not broken oflf but are still continued, we u 87 :":;:r:\r;:::'::;:'.i;rv::;r-;-'V""--'- "- «f «.y 0.1,0,. <-o,,,,,,.v .,;^ '':::,:';■''"''' '"•"'' ""'■ «■«.■ l.ro.l,„-ls „„,il t,„,,- „,,■ "■'■ "■'"■ «'Uitioi.al o„ i"'"T "f ti". ■ '" "'« -ofilo. of toU,ooo t,„.t .1,0 Z:;' ! ru^."'" -'""««.-.^ ..n<, .«l..co.l horo, „„.,, u,o,,f„,,„_ ,„„„,,,,?';'-' 7" "'= ''""' b..,>l,lo,no„ta,y Es,i,„aie, will u l„™,„,,t j„„„ ' ,"'" '* '^»""'' """ «... s..tisflecl, «„ ,j.|;ti„„„, exnoL-lit,,";.;; !""*"■•■"■"•"-'■• I «tln,ato the .,.p,„. .t a^.ol.^^"":..'! ' '^ '^ ^'^.^'^'y ^ }c.u. ihe estimated ! ' • i 38 <'xl,..u.lUun, ft... n.u yon., „.s com,.un.,l with tho e«tiumto.l oxuon- •'turo for tlK> i„e.soMt, y..,u-, sl.ows an in.Tc.so of ov.t .C^l,00n0.)O Jl.oi,u:n.us.sa,e Htatcl a. iollows: l>o«t Olllc,., ^^2l!<) OOO ,V ',,,.. largo increa.so is rc.juir,.,! n..xt year for tho following ivason • th. Ims.noss ha-s grown to such avohnno, that undur th. arrang,.nu.nt that was tna.le with tho Grand Trunk Railway, I.y which tho Post Oflice Uoparttnenthad tho use of half a car for postal purposes, tho l.usiness could not bo transacted in half a car, and wo were co,np..llod to make .m-a.^ements lor a whole ear, and this additional outlay on the (Jrand Trunk Kailway alone involved an inc.eased expenditure of .^25,()()0 I hen tho increased business on tho Intercolonial Kailwav was such th-,^ the Depnrtn.ent demanded that tho road bo placed on th"e sanu, footin. as other lines, that they were entitled to the san.e con,pensation f.^- carrying the nmil as other lines, and demanded that the apprcpriaticn for the postal service should bo increased. Of course, as tho Inter colonial Kailway is a Government road, it is taking n>oney out of one pocket and putting it into the other, but it was thought to bo a pro,,er arrangement, and tho increase amounts to $33,000. I,i the North- West tlie proposed increased expenditt.re for next year amounts to something liko $57,000, so there is nearly 0120,000 from the.e three Items alono. Then we have proposals to establish new offices • tho fact is >ve find every day and < very week applicttions from the older Provincps asking for increased accommodation, and as tho revenue is iiicreasin.r ]„ about the same proportion as the expenditure, wo trust that the vevelm from this source, though it will not quite cover $220,000-becauso the sum paid to the railways is in excess of former payments, and for it there IS no return-will largely come back to th.. Treasury. Tho expenses are regulated by the receipts, to a considerable extent, because nearly all the postmasters, except those in tho cities, receive 40 per cent, on their' receipts as salary, and as the receipts increase, the salaries increase, as also do tho charges en the Department. The increase iu tlie Civil Service Esti- mates, as hon. gentlemen will notice by tho Estimates on tho Table of the House, is ei30,000-a larger amount than in any year for some tune back. I may mention that of that sum, $32,000 was formerly paid out for salaries toofhcers on the Geological Survev-in the D-part- mont of the Postmaster-General alone are nineteen or' twenty-ono men u « TMW7W*1Wf.v« . 39 i- lHc,,,„i,„. K„ ,.„„,„„„„ ,,,„ ' " ''- '"" »■»»■'> »» n.l.i.ll.v, ,„„] »"■,,, «,, : , ; ' ;■■- '» "'"'-"....■.>•, in u,„ ,„, „f ,„„ Tl,« M„„. Mini,,,,,. „f A,,,^, r" ' ""'«""■"■ ^'■™'«- •ion, a„J .1,0 »,„„,„.t ,iL r, i of ■ "'■' " '"""•""' '"■""■=■- W.»k ex|,c„.li„„.„ it i, ,>,„„„, J ••""''■'l>«lo,l. The P,„,|io i»'^"' ' "..,; »„., ■,,„:: If i;:,,rrr ■; """""™° "•"' l»iJ for l„,iMi„i., u,e/l„ ,0 . ° '""'•"' «"" "- ""' ■»ail «.taiJio, will 1.0 S4S000 Tl '" '" '"^""'''''V "■■■ l.loUo„-r„,. ,„.„,i„e« of Stole,. "^""."O""" '<""«> of com. oo...,e, ,.„.,or ,„i, „„;::::„ r;::;:;-::;;:':-"^-' " c.vtc„Ji„g the ,„„le „„,, e„,i„„,i„ ',,„„, "^^ ' ? "' '"'"""gmg ai„l ■n.o.. the,, i, „„ i„e,.e„,„ i °, ^ 1 " 2, ';7f' -'.«- -....fie. "'V',":" -■ "" "■■*"•■' «••»■■'«'. »n., decLi,,: ,To: ; ; ':.T.'"« |.0|.k.il into ,h„ Dominion Tl,„ ,-. • "''"''" 'm- 6'.%000.of..,,ic,,82»00 istaM T '",""""•"" '"'■I"-'"'''"- i-' 7- -.1 ..« -"if li: . "■ ;■■;::' :"::°*"r'- ^'■'■' ""«ll.o.ei„«Uon,in„: f. t ^' ^"^ *'»""''^" »i» be the -ease,, e.,.„„i,„..e o.„n;:i ^ L: ri.;:,;""?'"''^ '"" «'° it imperative. The same thin, „1 ,.'. . , T""^ ""^ «"*""« g maj be saiU with regara to Excise Il:, !•■ 40 ■ ....... (I,. I.,ll now ,„,,„, ,l„. n„„„, ,„ ,1,0 <.„„„ „f „,,„„ ,V-„ „„„■ o w»„„„„.,i, i.„v„tobe „,i,.„,,_if ,..,„„ „ „„„,,;,,;,'■ liositKjii- -t)io honiis to Im i,,ii,l to tl,.. ;,. r ""« t"t l^io- tii.vt at tJic close of t uh vear w,. «l,.>ll i , , ' ^'^ ^"" «'"Iui-onient of our p.nv.l« ^t«.." , .S„, ,l,.,t U,o co„„„-y will „„t „,|,„t ,„ h. l,u,ir™„I,m„,„ wcre,„l„„itt.J bj the Govo„„„e„t, it .,, „„ ' hat .1,0 seat«,„onls n,a.le tl„.o„gI,„ .t tl,„ eo,„.fy i„ „, El„ i„„?, lo,uta- of tl,e Govo„„„„„t, tl,e„ tho lea,,.,. „r „,„ o,,„„,Ui;„ !°tu reference to protection to tl.e indnsl.i™ of the connl,.. It "Z[ that in the Elections of 1878 that -c„e,.,l , , "^- " "'" '"">"" ±0(0, umc general policv was nresenfed m +i,„ country. But when we came Jiere in IS'O , • ^''''^'^^'"^ *° *''« 1 .., . ,. . ° '" ^^'^»'"i J m subsequent vcir<< a,,a,.nUhat,.o.c,.„.„ the for„ of a resolution for the cLsUeS orParl,an,c„t, en „■,. r„„„j „„„. „,„„„„„„ . _ hargtng ,nd.vKl„„, ,.,™,fce. .„n the C^ovcrnn.ent a, a >.,,„,., Z, hav.„gfa.Wt„oa„yo„,„h.tth,;had pW^aJ theo»elvoa to carry Dominion lands, militia |iiir()n,s(.H^ about 81.'»0,()(ifl. ^ustuins tlio jno- '•crs (lui'iii^ next ly thcro aiipcais ?ticiilly, even in >aitmeiits wlioro -it, although I ' oxpouditui-e of of 1874-78, ami asod will, if you list aliout what I stated before, ed 610,000,000 our canals, cjlonia! liail- tlieso circum- tlie increased sreased. Xow, 1 the attention tst. It was by 3 statement by 1878. \yjien it was alleged Elections by 'own. It was he right hon. )osition, with It was known isentod to the ?qucntr years, consideration le House and whole, with v^es to carry 41 out before the Elections of 1878 Weil «?;. . of knowin.. th.t after tb . , . ' ' '"' '""" ^^^ satisfaction .oa., ani t^ ^c^'^ ;;:X;\:- ^^ ^'^ Operation ..r three -o-Udrdsof the people. .■„ " jter^rL: /'l/'^'^'^'^' ""tail, that |»licy. Tliore i, ,1,. .„■„ '° "'" "°""« '<> very marked -^Un K^ elections. Ihat verdict wa.s J iiKtiKeu, also, becau.so we were tnl,l ;,, *i, i -t that this policy would Le 1 '\«^ '^ ^"" o"t of the Union the smaller Ppovinces Has \ ? ' out the smaller Provinces, What is heverdi^t T r7 of the members elected in June last from the Mlt P '^ sent here to support this policy. And I t^^. Ul on ,""" "" were of the late House wi 1 nard. rr """""•"' ^''° pHde and satisfaction L s^l : t', rnt^V'^f'" ' '''' ' ''-''' Elections nf 1K80 u ^ , ""» policy, but at the General xiiiecuons ot ih82, what was the verdict? Thr.„„i t chafed .u, ..,,_«„, .,,. ,.,. X jti ,:::r:2 b , a m.jo,.. , ha, been ,e„t f„„, „,, P,,,tae. .o .„a.ai„ thi „roy Sir, ae majoiity of the vote was larger for the ixil.V. ,1 .? ^.«on i„ tte House. That . another iZ:!:'^^":^^ n„. . ^ P"^' '™'' '° """"• tf this aide of the Ho„,e, you m„at accept the National Policy." Now I MtZ 7 verdict given in June ..,t wa. n,ost emphatic' and p^'vL tT] .y statement, that hon. gentlemen opposite .u,t LepTt N ^ Po rcy before they can hope to come on this „de of the House n «at has gone forth, and i, will be perpetual. And it is thi, : t at the hand must pensh that attempts to remove one single stone f„l t oee foundation wa« bo oaivluliy laid and superstructure ao 42 skilfully En,>erintended by the right hon. gentleman v-hose nan.o I need not mention m. tl.i.s House. 1 .s..i.l. in 1^80 an-I LSSl, ti„.t wl.enev.v an Election came, this policy wouM be sustained, that aft.r it had been five years on the Statute-book, and af,er having been perf-cte.! f..om time to tune, it would never be repeale.l in Canada so long as Canada was Canada, [.nder the.se circnn.stances I desire to lay u,on the Table of the House the resolution that, when we are in con.u.ittee, I prono.se to move in confirmation and perfection of that policy. )se nanifi I neerl tli.it wliciievur ftiT it liiid l)ei>n pcifictcd from long a8 Canada n|.()n tho Tal)le iltec, I propose