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Les diagrammes suivants iilustrent ia mithode. 1 2 3 TO TlIK RKJUT llONOURABLS THE MINISTERS OF JUSTICE AND OF THE INTERIOR. (iENTLEMEN,- 1 liavc cari'fiilly pe i-.Mie, and wliicli, dierefore, allhotigli full of jnaeeiiraei<'S half truths and falsities - I do nut propose nnw li de.il with, although I reserve (he right, if iieeessarv, to point these out later on, and to prodiiee diKimuniary and other evideliee. At the same linu anv Naii^iaetory e\pl.iii,ilions, touching the three main inaiters ( haiged in my letter, are evaded. [ charge, in the first plaee, •Jiat the Manilulia (Wivernnient Grant in .\id, in the form of Bonds '<"' /■S'l'^o-' "hieh, by < laiise S of the Agreement of nth Seplemlier. i,SX6, were pledged to the West Cnmbe:' -nd ("oinpany, were, on the 7tli Oiiober, iSSft, - thai is to say Hveiity three day. later, — pleilged oM 1 i,aiii, by Mr. .Sutherland, to Messrs. 1). 1). Mann iS: Co., and that this was done in fraud of the \'',i Cuiuherland Company. Mr. .SiUhcrl.md inei I,-, (his, not by giviii.,' 1 .luil denial to the rha.ge, but by the In i/uoqut rejo'iider that in making this charge. I, ..ilh the ah!, iii iiiient of seeking to pl.io" him in a false position. (OIK e.iled ilu l.i; 1 of the orig'ii.il :igrcc'ii;ni having breii varied or altered l>v an agn einent o' -.uiiscqnent ilatr, the laci lu iiig iliat I did not lelei to tiii^ as I desired to eliminate unnece.ssiiry details ; .i>, howe^ct. It l.as noH tieen ineiition,'d 1 will give a full explanation. rile .\gieeiiii n( "( tile i,|tli .'.^rptcinlM'r, by (hi Sih clause, gave the Winnipeg Company the right absolutely, if lhe\ obtain, d the gii.fantee .1 ,\b ssrs. 1' 1 1. M,i.i!i \ ( c, u. ile:il with the Bonds The agreeiiieni of (I.- i;th Sept<''nl)er (lualifiei! ihi-. t!;:lii. in.ikiiig n stibjc. t to the West Cumberland Company Ixin.; satisilc d with tie fniatu lal po'iii.in ol Mcssis. li l> M.inn iV ('o. Mr. Sutherland iiliiiits thai l'il«e. 1, ilu: i^tli .nid 1 Stii Sepleinbei, unfavourable repoits alwiiit Mann & ( 'o. ha.l bei n o 1 . iv.d, .iml dial n w,i> m 1 (insei|iu ni e ol ilie t'eeling of alarm thus i n-ated thai the agreement 111 I ;th Septemb. r K.i^ sign, .1. liis snggesti.m is. Iliw. \ii, ih.it under die lerins ol diis agreemi-nl ///'■//;(•/• (7w;;(rv wa^ to In 111. -li liy tlie\\i>i ( iiiiiln > I .ml < om| .iii\, aiiil tli.il il Ihen not sa'.iilied die \V iiiiip. g ( .-iiip.in w.is iioi 1. be il 111 urn lo 1 h.iige or deal «nli (be .Manitoba (iovern ■III Itoiicb, and (li.il, .1-. he was luver .illtiwatds noliliid on the siibjeel. he ri'u. juslilied in dealing ■|iiii. ' Il ai. howevei. (h.il he was bound (o do one thing or the olhei eiilier irtam ilie Itoii.l. ! r.'ii I. tin rii.i; ml.. .'I I' 1'. M, 11111 iV I o. iiiiie lor the sake ol argiiniMii ili.it the Wes, iinilierl, Old Coiupaie . i.iMiif; Lull il (o iiotilv ihi r. ult .1 (h. 11 " (iirlhei eni|nir\. ' in rci uilliin his ,ghts in dealing with b.i I'-oii,!,, .lid ilia! .ib>...|'.i ',1111 ir. 111 (he ,;,'.'<■;';.).'.'.•■(• obligitioii ..I .ibi.iiiMiig tin ..ii.ii.iiKei. .111.1 unci lie li.i'l 1I..111 so w.isii am il.,' !. ss .1 It.iiul (o p. in wuli (lie bonds' Messrs \biiin >V C. 1 i.iloiin nil , as .1 iii.iK.t ol t.u (, Ih.K die lerins .1 i!k' .igt. t iiieiii widi ih.- \\ esi ( 'unib.'tland (. .iiip.it. V ». 1. vvidiheld Irrin thein, ami that no reijiiest lor (lieii gii.u.inlef v. ,. . vir made or even hiiit.sl al, in ,\li ^lU(llell,nld 1 siibmil, (h.aefon-, ihat llie answar given lo llus . Ii.iii;. v\li..|ly l.n's. .mil (Ins ,ip.ii( from ."oll.Ui r.d i\id' 111! will' il 1 an be pi.tdii.ed, if iiei ss.ir^, ol a ditl'-rent kiial riieii, s, . iiiiiHv, i 1 li.n,;. (111! il'.' \. ! ,:ii,m.iiiIi < 111;', die pi iiii ipal .ind 'i(eies( ..I (he \\ innipi .; I '..iiip my bonds lot /, =,'..7' ■ . .^ 1 > ^.tb •» .pieiiib i. pe.d. d by the Ntaiiitob,i ( ioveinni. iii .11 tlu ie'|iK s(. s, . .l.ili.l. 111 (lie ^^'lllnlpel■, ' elnp.lin To (his M ! Sinhi riand o joims ti...f t.. bond • win- di.itd d. 1, \ ise.i and oniited itndi-i the siipt-r vision ol the .Solu iiots to die V\is( ( iimli. ila'iil ' oinp.iii) .md l.lo)ds Itank, implying ihal il the me with (hen HdhJs art' defective il is their lault. not his. I venture wholly to douhi this most uiilike'y story, aithouj;h I have not at hand, ol lourse, the means ol proving iis falsity, liut il true il does not amount to much, as Mr. Sulh-rlaiid was resi>oiisil>le lor tlie instrtirtiuns, hy whomsoever tiiey weie earned into elleit, and he does not suggest that tlie Honds were drawn otherwise than in accordance wim the instructions he gave. Mr. .Sutherland further seeks to lighten his responsihilities by stating that the whole trnnsactioni with its attendant risks, was carelully considered by the Solicitor to the \\ est Cumherlaiid Co., and that concern was lelt on certain points, implying, I suppose, that the securities were susjiected not to Ijc wl.at they profe.ssed to Lie, a state ol things which 1 need liardly sa) is alisurd. Mr. .Sutherland then takes distinct issue with the Maiiitolu Cjovernment, wlio claim tl.at the Act repealed was a permissive one, and was never acted upon hy iheiu. Mr. .Sutherland on the other hand now boldly siates that an Order-inCouncil was duly ))as.sed, and that interest (he does not s;iy principal) on i.ll bonds issued thereunder, was, and is .still guaranteed by ihi .Manitoba tiovcrnnieiu. Does he mean that bonu.-, other than ihose issued to the Hest Cumberland (.Company ate in e.Mstence. which are guaranteed, and are being (uid their interest, whilst ours are not? It ours uvir issued under this Ordcr- in-Council, why has the interest iHreii allowed to tall into arrear during the past lour years, and why was not this Drdcr-in-Council loithcoming wlieii the disallowance was prayed lor ot the repealing Act, "Ijassed so much to his chagrin and Jisappoiniment," and why li it iliit w:IA>Mii I Surely il the lacl t)e as stated, not onl) has i iraud been perpetrated in the pa^t, but it is a continuing Iraud without excuse and without palliation. I'lie third complaint 1 make, and to which 1 submit no real answer is given, is that the Company, although it cannot pay us our money, is doing its utmost to prevent oui obtaining possession ol tlie security, given expressly to provide lor such an eventuality. Mr. Sutherland does not deny that we have waited patiently lor nearly tliree years, but is indig- nant when we at length take action. He suggest that we have ulterior designs, and have entered into a dark conspiracy tu rob him uf the liuit ol his ten years labours. 1 need hardly say Uiat had we any evidence that his present coinbinatiuns would be likely to result in the early payment ol uur claim, we would assi-st them in every way ; but with a .secretivcness quite in character witli his lornier conduct, he declines even to tell us what these combinations are, and still less does lie produce the evidence, without which it would lie inipropet and imprudent or us to act, particularly having regard to the painliil ex[x;riences wc have already gone tlunugh. My Ix-st rejoinder to the letters Itom Mr lienimill • nd Mr. Tupinr will lie to send yon copies ol two l':rters which 1 wrote on the 2Sth I'ebruary, the one to S.r John .\. Macdonald, the other to Mr. Sutherland, but neither of which, lor certain rea.ion.s, and acting under the advice of Mr Kingsniill, I actually delivered. Finally I venture to suggest that nothing in Mr. Sutherland's reply nor in my rejoinder really affects the i|uestio:i now under considciation, which is, whether the (joveinmeiu can sec their way, under all the tircuiiistancLS, to protect our interests by making a renewal of the I jnd litant, conditional upon payment of our claim, or in the event ol its final lorleiture provide thercloi out ol the lorleiled property. Mr. Sutherland, as 1 gather, sees no objection to the suggestion, nor could its adopti'ui interfere with the carrying into effect ol his Kinibinations or of any other arrangements by which this iin|iort,int national project may lie successfully launched. 1 trust, therefor, that the (ictition 1 have ventured to present may meet witii favourable and early consideration. I am, (icnllemen, Your