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I'hey made no mistake, be- I cause they obeyed the very words of the Lord. .Marl< 13: 32-36.-Butofthatdayand //uit hour knoweth no man, no, not the aneels Fither''*'''' '" ''''' "'^^'"^^^^ "1*^ "^o"' '"'t the Take ye hoed, watch an.l pray: for ye know not when the time is. /-'or/Zu- Son of man is as a man takinti a far journey, who left His house, and gave authority 10 His servants, and to every man his work and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping And He said the same thing to us Mark 13: .,7--And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch. / " 1 4 A. 'rhere is diversity of opinion among those who hold the Lord's second coming pre and post, as to the relation of the Anti-Christ to that event The coming of Christ which is the hoi)e of the church, is not the special feature ofjudgmentinHis coming, but that visible presence of the Lord and re- union with departed friends in Jesus, PRR-MIII.KNNIAI. COMINd OF CHRISI', 5 Q. Where is the second advent spoken of in Rev. 20, or the context ? at the ascension to tlie upper air, when the Lord receives them. I Tluss. 4; 1517. i',,r this wc say unio you l.y tlif word of III,. L,,iil, ilmt we w arc alivf (///,/ ri'innin unto iho (•(.iiiiiiL' ol Lord >liall - ■ • ■ ■ ■ lich the .onl ,liall not pri'vrnt lluni which arc aslcn. l"or the L.rnl himself shall descend from eavenwitha shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trunii. of( ;.«l: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive 9. If the literal interpretation he ^,fJi7' ^'- .?--^(«'^''""^r, we shall also reien wnh //s.,, ,f wc deny //,,„, ,„• als.. will XSJ And Kcv. 5: 10.— And has made us unto our (Jod kmKs and ,.nc.,s: and wc sl^ adopted, is it a literal sword "thin i,ro L 'V^" athnitted can ceedeth out of His month in in- 21 '-''■'"■':"^''''"^".''y ^11 expositors, ceedeth out of His month m ny 2 and in 20: ,3, is it a "key," a literal iron 'Vham" and a literal "pit" with a door to it iVrc.? 7 Q. Why is the book of life mention- ed in the latter part of Rev. 20, as beinir used m the judgment at the close of the mdlennium to determine who are the good and reward them if they have separated from the wicked a thousand years before ? on of in- that tht . - ^ - - -•.,.^....1^,.-,, null uie >ttral meaning of w,;rds shall he adoi)t- ed, unless involving an impossibility, or an uicongruity. The "key," the ''^'''^■n, ' the "sword" are f.gt.rati^e ex- pressions; from the object to which hey are applied, implying restraint, subjection and victory. JJut when ngures are expressly explained by the writer m literal terms, it will be a gross perversion to insist that the explanation ! >s figurative also -Thus in Rev. 5: 8 (.olden vials full of odours," "which are the prayers of the saints." Here is a figure and its explanation- the one figurative-the other literal. So in the passage m hand, it is said of the souls of the persons beheaded, "they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years, but the rest of the dead lived not ;'f "; ""/.!. i^^thousand years were fin- ^hed. i his is resurrection the first " Necessarily, this teaches a second resurrection of the dead at the end of the 1000 years. The vision is figur- ative, the explanation is literal. The figure as in the former passage of this prophecy is expressly explained 7 A. 1 he Book of Life is not used for that i)urpose, as only the wicked dead are raised and judged. It is s.mply a check-book for exactness and judicious accuracy as may be .seen from Kev. 20: 15.— And whosoever was not fnnnri written in the book of life was lake of fire. cast into tht PKK-MII.l.KNNlAI, COMIN(i OF CHRIST. 7 8 Q W ,11 any rijrhtcous die duriiiL' he millcnnmm.and if so, when will they 1)0 resurrectetl, so us t,> separate them rom the resurrection of the wicked at the close of the millennium? 9 Q. If as Christ teaches us in the parable of the tares and wheat. Mat. ly. 25-30, 36-43, the good and had shall stay together until the end of the world \vhy do pre-millennialists revive thi' proposal of the servants, and suppo.se that the wheat, thegcod will l,e sorted out and lifted up from among the tares l)cfore the millennium; forChrist teaches that the tares or the wicke.l will be ca.st out (irst at the end of the world, ami then the wheat, the good, will |,e garn- ered.' " 8 A. We have no revelation f)n this subject. 10 9 If the world is to be trans- tormed by fire before or during the mil- lennium, how will saints or anyone live in a bodily state comfortably in such a not place ? 1 1 Q. If Paul and I'eter and John ex- pected Christ to come before they died why did they .speak of dying, Paul, ii' lim- 4:6; I'KTKK, Jno. xxi. ,9; 2nd Peter i: 14; John, John x.xi.: 23 ? 9 A. This is a parable which reaches of h' "; ^""'' ^r- '"'^^^ Kathering of the wheat here does not refer to the rainure of the chur.h but rather to the scene of judgment n Matt. 25 : ^2. — liesides the/^m'.f are being "bundled" now-,,, i ,c myriad as.sociation.s, form- ed for lawless and -secret j.urposes- and to increase in all forms of impious and daring methods for restoring the race, in defiance of CMiiist and Mis Holy Spirit. It docs not say that the ; tares will be /w/v/.v/ before the wheat j IS garnered nor 'Vast out" but simply iMMdihemin bundles to burn them" -I he actual burning will not be till j after the judgment. ! 10 A. No view of tins kind is held t)y those pre-millennialists, with whose writings we are familiar. 12 9. If Christ said in John 18: 36, My kingdom is not of this world" and If He refused Satan's tempting ofTe^ of the "kingdoms of the world and the glory of them," is it likely that He will come back and take an earthly king- II A Because dying was a pos.sibi- jlity to them, as well as the Lord's c«mi- , ing again. If they looked for Him as I certainly to come before they died I then they would limit their hope But the time was unknown, and the object of hope was imminent on that account It IS imminent to them now. 12 A. In John, Christ referred to the character of His Kingdom. He refus- ed Satan because of the condition giv- en. He will set up the Kingdom of the Heavens on this earth— when He comes back to reign with His saints- according to His f)romise. Kev 3: 21.— To him that overconieth will 1 grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I nmmmmmmmm PRF.-MILLENNIAL COMINO OF CHRIST. 13 Q. If as Peter says in Acts 2:29- 36, that Christ's promised Davidic King- dom was set up at Christ's resurrection, why are we to look for it sometime in the near or even distant future ? 14 Q. If, as we are taught in Daniel's prophecy, of the stone growing till it fills the whole earth, in the parable of the mustard tree growing till it fills the world, and the leaven working till it leavens the whole lump, that the King- dom of heaven set up is to grow till it fills the whole earth, what is the use of looking for another kingdom to come and do this, and why is the world and Church spoken so often of by pre-mil- lennialists as growing worse and worse? also overcame, and am set down with mv father m his throne. 13 A. Peter does not say this, but the very opposite. Acts 2 : 34-36. -For David is not ascended into the heavens : l)ut he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, .Sit thou on my right hand until I make thy foes thy footstool. 1 nerefore let all the house of Israel know as- s'lredly, that God hath made that same le^us whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Because he was refused David's throne. The Lord has placed Hin. at His right hand, imtil His foes on this earth shall be His footstool. And now while He has all power given Him in heaven and earth. He tells us Himself that He is in the Father's throne, and not on His own which is David's. 14 A. The very opposite of these things are taught in the proj>hecy and parables quoted. Daniel's prophecy speaks of a .stone cut out without hands falling sharply and suddenly on the feet of the image and utterly destroying it, as the Lord will blast the anti-christian governments, by the breath of His mouth at His apjjearing, ard then, after this, It becomes a great mountain filling the whole earth and not before. Dan. 2: 34, 35. —Thou sawest fill that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that 7i>ere of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces. Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfioors ; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them : and the .stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth. The mustard tree, the Christendom of to-day, "when it is grown" does not "fill the world," but the "birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof," these "birds of the air" are the same "fowls" that picked up th way PRE MILLENNIAL COMINO OF CHRIST. 15 Q If the world is to l)e very bad at Christ's coming, and then very good after His coming, how will men be saved when Christ has renounced His office as Saviour and Mediator; see Heb. 10: 12, 13; Heb. 9: 28? side seed," and we cannot doubt who they are, because our Lord tells us. He says, they arc the "wicked one," and as to "leaven" our Lord settles that too in: Matt. 16: i2.~-"Thon iindcrstoodthey how tluit he l)arle them beware, not ol the leaven of l)read, Imt of the doctrine of the Tharisees and of the Sachlucces." This leaven is all pervasive to-day, when philosophy, formality and tradi- tional teaching, are to so large an ex- tent, perverting the meaning of (iod's Word, to a multitude of intellectual, cultured and worldly christians. The world in this sense has invaded the church. And the Lord declares the wodd the enemy of (lod. 1 5 A. C:hrist does not renounce His otitic ; Saviour and Mediator. The texts ot the question simply declare the completion of His sacrifice for sins at His first advent. He will be the saviour of sinners during the Millennium, as much as before, and He is Mediator forever. 16 Q. Are there any cautions in the word of Cod against locating the com- ing of the Lord at too great a distance relatively, within the bounds ot time ? Or in other words, too near the end ot time? 17 Q. Are there any cautions against expecting Him too soon ? If so why ? 16 A. There are no cautions against locating the coming of the Lord. There is a direct and positive com- mand, to expect Him and be ready for Him any moment. Matthew 24: 42-44- Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth ^"nut know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the tinef would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready : for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. And a most solemn woe denounced against those who say "My Lord de- layeth his coming." 17 A. There are no cautions against expecting him too soon. The Thessa- lonians were excited as if the day of \ ■, H wVwiViiiiiiwWftMMM •iriiii-iBiiiriii 10 PRE-MILLENNIAL COMING OF CHRIST. 18 Q. Why is the coming of Christ called the church's "blessed hope?" Is it because of something in the event itself, abstractly, or is it because of the issues involved ? In other words, It is because of something in the nature of the event itself, or because the saints are then to receive some kind of regal ascendancy among men on earth, or because they are 'o receive the ful- ness of their reward in heaven, and be " forever with the Lord " ? 19 Q. If for the latter reason where- in is the pre-millennial theory superior to the post-millennial, unless it be in the matter of a few years of time ? 20 Q. If because of the regal as- cendancy, then is not the postmillen- nial theory the most "blessed hope ? " In other words will it not be better for the saints to be in heaven a thousand years than on the earth ? Christ had already come, i. e., was then |)resent; and so the hope promised in the i)receQding letter proved vain. So far this is a caution against the fallacy held by some that the day of the Lord is now si)iritually come. 18 A. Because they will then meet their blessed Lord, and also of the per- sonal deliverance they will then experi- ence—and the entrance upon the pro- mised inheritance. Titus 2: 13. Looking for that blessed liope and the glorious appearing of the great Cod and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Kev. 5 : 10. And hast made us unto our C.od kings and priests : and we shall reign on the earth. Rev 20: 6. Wessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection : on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reinn with him a thousand years. 21 Q. If it be for something in the nature of the event itself is it noi as blessed a hope to the post-millennialist? 19 A. Reigning over the earth is a glory promised, and the time depends solely on the declarations of God's word, and not at all on the conjecture of men. 20 A. The word of God permits no alternative of this kind. 21 A. The event of the Lord's com- mg cannot be an object of hope as taking place at any moment if it is a thousard years distant. The i)ractical power of the hope in the primitive church seems to have been under its imminence— All injunctions and exhor- tations in the N. T. find their motive power in the imminence of this uncer- tain event. .. PRE-MILLENNIAL COMING OF CHRIST. II 2 2 Q. On the i)resumption t> in- si)ired men in apostolic days kiu diat the advent would not take piact for nearly two thousand years, as it certainly has not, would the effect of their " ex- pectancy " on their minds be greater than upon the minds of a modern post- millennialist who looks for it within say, 1,500 years or less ? 23 Q. On the supposition that they did not know how long it would be, are we to infer that they were deceived themselves, and by their own teachings deceived others? 22 A. 'I'he presumption is unwar- ranted. For the habit of the primitive church is asserted in: - I Thcss. i : 10. And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, tw« Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 24 Q. If so, were their teachings in- spired ? And was it consistent for the divine Spirit to mislead people in order to do them good.? 25 Q. Hav- the teachmgs of pre- millennialists in the past commended t hemselves to the world for their truth- fulness, more than those of post-millen- nialists ? 26. Q. What will the effect of the Second Advent be upon the ungodly ? And what is the nature of scripture ad- monitions to them in view of the Lord's coming ? 27 Q. Will they be destroyed at the time, or judged finally? In other words, what is meant by Christ's being "revealed in flaming hre, taking ven''- geance" etc. ? 21 A. They had nothing to do with the time of His coming, because not revealed. Matthew 15 : 13. Watch therefore, for ye know neitlier the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cumeth. They were not deceived, and the Lord deceives no orte who believes His word. ^ 24 A. All scrii)tures were inspired. The Holy Spirit has deceived no one. Satan is the only deceiver, he has led many good men to believe a lie. He will even tran.sform himself into an angel of light, and deceive the very elect were that i)ossible. 25 A. Fre-millennialists do not seek to "commend themselves to the world." 'I'he teachings of i)re-millen- nialists have the sanction and support of all the ablest expositors of ancient and modern times. .Vlford says — " The majority, both in number, learn- ing and research adopt the pre-millen- nial advent, following the plain and un- deniable sense of the sacred text." Bengel, Spener, Delitzsch, Auberlin. 26 A. They are to be judged, and the sentence executed. There are no admonitions to them, but "a certain fear- ful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation." 27 A. Those who are living at the time of His revelation in "flaming fire" will be judged and finally sentenced. *■ V,j ' • l iwnm i im siiigBiigwi nn i i iii rwM i 12 PRE-MILLKKNIAI, COATING OF CHRIST 28 Q. If destroyed will they all be destroyed ? 29 Q. If not all destroyed who will be saved, and by what scripture is the saving of any taught ? 30 Q. If all are destroyed who will the wicked nations be that Satan is to gather for battle after the thousand years ? 31 Q- If judged at the time of Christ's coming of whom will the judg- ment in Rev. xx. I)e, which is to come after the millennium? 32 Q. If not judged before the mil- lennium, when the son of man shall come in His glory and all tic holy angels with Him, Matt. 25: 31, ac- cording to Pre-millennialists, then what judgment is this ? IS Q. If a judgment of "nations, as such" as some teach, then are we to un- derstand that "nations, as such " will be invited to inherit "eternal life," ver. 46, and to "depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels"? ver. 41. Andwill this include the chil- dren and otherwise irresponsible per- sons in those nations? 28 A. Destruction does not mean annihilation. All named in that judg- ment will be destroyed. 29 A. Scripture does not teach that any ijnder condemnation and judged will ever be saved. . ' 30 A. Rev. 20 : 8, tells us, that Satan when loosed will deceive che nations who have been saved, and in the end of the 1,000 years, are subjected to this last temptation. 31 A. At the time of Christ's com- ing only living persons are judged " Nations" can be composed only of living people. At the end of "the day" of the Lord which lasts a thousand years, only the wicked dead will be judged, and they are raised up for that purpose, i Rev 20: 5, 12, 15. But the rest of the of hosts; In those days /V sha/l iOiiie (0 pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him th.1t is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard t/iat God is with you. « O. If some of the nations only, 35 A. This judgment of nations and not ^// of them are judged at this | who are living, refers to such as have time, will there be two itidgments, one recognized Christ in many ways and • •■• • •- yet have persecuted Him, throughout the great tribulation yet to come under Anti-Christ, jjcrsecuting and killing both Jews and Centiles who believed on Him. The judgment jof tiie White Throne is a judgment of the dead sin- ners of past ages, raised and judged ift person for their rejection of Christ as Saviour and Son of God. ^6 O. Or will there be two comings 36 A. Not two comings »Hit one of the 1 -ord in the future, one pre and I the second beginmng wUh judicial pre and the other post-millennial ? the other post-millennial ? 37 Q. If so, why do we not hear more about His third coming? what will it mean and when will it be? 38 Q. If Christ leaves His media- torial throne to come to earfh, will any be saved thereafter, and if so, in what way? Do the scriptures reveal two ways; if so, where? and if men can be saved in any other way, or on any other terms after His coming, why not now? dealing upon the living ruling and governing through the day of one thousand years, and closing with final judicial dealing with all the dead. 37 A. There is no third coming. 38 A. Christ has not left, and will never leave His mediatorial throne. There is but one way of salvation and that i.s, through Christ alone. After His coming — in the millennium — sin- ners will be saved in the same way as now, through His precious blood. But HWB mmmtm^mmim 14 PKK-Mn.r,KNNlAL doMING OF CHRIST. Hnn that halh loved us and washed us hem' '' f"''/^*^'" f'^^' ' 'i^'-^'h- in not «roni our snus in His own blood" etc T ev w 1 '5^. '"^' Z^'"'^'^" "^ ^"'^•■'■•^' of the Mcssum.c Kuigdom, and not ™icrswi.hchri.,a.7i;jd;;;;;h3ib:: 39 A. He 39 Q. AV. 1 the spirit remain or be H'thdravvn after C:hrist'scomine? Ifiti., "^'^ ']■ ""^^ ^"" '■^^"'•^'". '^^ He has remain why could not the ConiA,rter : f ^'! ^'^" '^^^^^^^^^ come t.ll Christ went away? If U be noMll" / , ''"' ^ ''^''' ^'^™ ^'^^ lI th.y walk by sight and' Lo ' 1^ fa-th? It the latter how can this bin .■ "- true of persons dwelling in the remote T ?* '^" ^'^^^ = 40 A. We know not, because as vet we have not the revelation for that age .rom the analogy of past ages, wh'en hat day dawns, there will be a reve- at.on of all the details of the age rUrlP' ^'^'i '""'^'y "^ ^'^^fh after Christ s commg be composed entirely of risen and incorruptible saints or a mixture of such with mortal, corruptible sinful men in the flesh? "P"0'e, 41 A. So far as we can gather from he scriptures, the society of earth in 'that day" will be composed of human bemgs in mortal bodies, will be pure clri! '^u''^''.'''' '^^--nmentof Christ and His saints in their immortal ooaies. PRK-MILLENNIAL COMINCi OF CHRIST. '5 A respectful unevasive answer to the foregoing is respettfully and earnestly solicited by one who has hitherto been prevented from embracing what is ex- tensively represented as the " i:hin"(h's blessed hope," and said to be a great spiriuial l)enediction, vi/.., the pre-mil- lennial coming of Christ. If it be true as des(ril)ed, and jxist-millennialists are bL'in;j; deprived of the comforts and blessings involved, you will surely re- gard as a "labor of love," which will be enriched by the master's smile to "cast up a highway" to these benefits for myself and others, and "gather out the stones." Or in other words to remove these stumbling blocks. A "l*osr-Mii,i,i;NNiAi.isT" wrin mv PKESKNT l.KlHr. The undersigned has cndi-avored to give a fair, calm, imd respectful answer without evasion of a single point, to the foregoing (juestions, from the teachings of scripture, as he has been led to un- derstand them. He humbly trusts that the labor thus freely bestowed may not be without some hel|)fulness to this friend, and to all others who are sin- cerely desiring to be satisfied from the Word of (lod, on this confessedly pressing and most important truth. With the ferVent prayer that the Spirit, the Author and Interpreter of His own Word, may (lisi)el w hatever darkness or blindness attends these answers, either in the mind of the writer or readers, jrhey are reverently committed to His gracious and enlightning care. H. M. P. ->^^:i5^%t7<^ tmmmrm i; { rhe Two Resurrections. I Questions and Answers. I [). Apart from Rev. 20 : 4, is there sufficient evidence in scripture of two resurrections, widely separated in time as well as distinct in character ? 2 Q. Is this passage to he literally and unequivocally understood as a resurrec- tion of hodies ? 3 Q. If so, is it not a literal prophecy rather than a prophetic visun, as fre- quently understood ? Which view is preferable ? 4 Q. If the former, then is it not to be a resurrection of souls, and not bodies? Observe, it is not the souls, (or persons) who were beheaded, but the "Souls of them" (of those persons) who were be- headed. 5 Q. If a prophetic vision, then are the souls not used as symbols of something to which they bear a resemblance, somewhat on the same princii)le as the chain, key, pit, binding, sealing, thrones, etc., are used in the immediate context ? 1 A. Yes. All the texts proving the personal and ])re-millennial advent of our Lord, prove a first and literal res- urrection, at least a thousand years be- fore the last, when we comi)are them with such texts as Phil. 3: 20-21; i Thess. 4: 16. We find two resurrec- tions taught in Dan. 12: 1-3; i Cor. 15: 22-24; Phil. 3: 11; Dan 7: 22-27. 2 A. Yes. 3 A. It is a projihetic vision. 4 A. It is not the former. 5 A. Not unless it would bean incon- gruity, to take the literal meaning. This is a law of Hible interpretation known to every student. ■■j igBi * | i aiaaa N^ff i n iiwita w iii a B w* i8 THK TWO RKSURRI'X riONS. 6 \. No one takes souls to be a sym- bol of l)oclies. 6 Q. If so, would it be consistent with tlie lasvsof P>ible synil)olisni to use souls as symbols of bodies ? Is not the symbol usually selec tetl from what is most tanj^ible, or familiar to repre sent what is less so? If so, then are we to re^artl this as an exception to the rule ? 7 Q. Whether is it more consistent j 7 A. The symbolic should be interi)re- with the laws of Hible exegesis to inter- ted in light of the literal parts. The |)ret the symbolic in the light of the , passage before us categorically teaches literal parts, or to interpret the literal i a literal and lust resurrection, if lang- in the light of the symbolic? If the j uage has any meaning anil "if scrip- former, then where are the literal por- ture is not to be wiped out as a defmite tions of Scripture which harmoni/e j testimony U) any thing." I'or with the idea of a physical resurrection - ' '" ■ of the righteous a thousand years or more before the wicked ? 8 Q. What substantial objections can be offered to the view that "souls" in the passage (juoted, are to be under- stocxl as syiiiho/s of a spirit like unto that of the persons des« ribed in this passage, a spirit which shall yet prevail upon the earth, and exert such a con- trolling inlluence among men that it will be as though the martyrs "lived" again with "Christ" among them, and "reigned," or held sway over the na- tions? And is not this in hamony with Zech 12 : 8; Dan. 7: 14, 27 ; Luke 12: 32; Rev. 2 : 26, 27, and many other scriptures ? 9 Q. Does this view of the passage differ materially from your interpretation of the resurrection of dry bones, in Eze kiel, and the return of the "spirit and power" of Elijah in John the Bai)tist? \i noif why sfioit/d a different principle of interpretation be applied to the pas- sage in K'-lation ? Is not the style and structure, especially of Ezekiel's prophecy and John's much the same? other passages, see answer tu first (juestion. 8 A. It is a lawof interpretation, not to give symbolic meaning when the literal is not incongruous; besides, if you inter|)ret as you suggest, then the sixth verse of this chapter has no meaning. The passages referred to recjuire no in- terpretation of the kind for liarmony. 9 A. The context determinesthe defin ite interpretation to be given. In the l^resent case the interpretation is given by the Holy Spirit in literal words. I TFIK TWO KF.SURKKrriONS. »9 lo (J. On the supposition that the resurrection des(ril)ed in Rev. 20 • 4 IS |)liysi(al, /. ,'., a literal resurrection of righteous persons, is there satisfac- tory evidence that it includes a// the r.Khleous? I'hree thin-s cliaracteriz- ed them: r They were heheaded for the wit- ness of Jesus. 2 They did not worship the heasf nor his image. 3 'I'hoy did not receive his mark. Now, for all that appears to the con- trary, may not all these things he spok- en of the same class of persons, viz the martyrs? If not, whv not ? Does the language most naturally describe all classes of righteous i)eople throughout ail ages, subject to all the varying con- ditions (jf time, or such classes only as were inartyitd by (leca|jitation f(jr their oyalty to (iod in opposition to the beast ? I 10 A. It does not include all the right- foils; It IS the last company of the right- eous dcMh it is the c'ose of the first resurrection. H. (ifh sen), I snw UM.Icr tlu.. altar (I,.; s.n.is of tliL-m tl.at wtTf slam for thr wnr.i „f Cod, an.l lor Ihi- testimony which ihcy held : 10 And ilky .riid with a KmkI voire, sayin.- '7 "".^'.<;l..nl, holy ami true, .lost .h.?u "•I n-lK«-.;in.lav..nK»- our Moodon them that dwi'll on ihi' oarlh .■' 11 And while robes wvre j-iven unto every •H-'-( them; ami it was sai.l unto them, that ley should rest yet for a little season, until uir fello«serv..nis also an.l th.-ir brethren fullilled? ^'^'^"'«'"^'^'^y^-"'.sh..ul.I be 1 1 Q. If you could be convinced that only martyrs are here described, would you still think the vision should be in- terpreted as a ph)sical resurrection ? . 12 Q. In Jno. 5 : 28, 29, the resurrec- tion of the righteous and the wicked are described as transpiring in the same hour," both classes being awakened by the same voice. Now, how do you harmonize this with the thec^ry of two separate resurrections for these classes a thousand years apart ? Even ad- mitting that the word "hour" may apply to an indefinite but continuous period of time, can it, or does it ever apply to two distinct events, separated by a thousand years or more? Does not the use of this term necessarily imply that the resurrection period, however long will be unbroken l)y any interval? And does not the fact that they are both r I A. We believe that martyrs only are described here, hence we have no difficulty. 12 A. The word "hour," in this pas- •sage, is a period of more than rooo years, and applies to events distinct and wide- ly separated in time. In the 25th verse of this chapter it can have no other meaning. "Hour," in verse 25 refers to this dispensation, and the events mentioned are the conversions taking place in it. The same voice is heard at the beginning and at the close. 20 TFfF TWO W '^R' I IONS. to hear the same "/wVe*" imply <»ii'«ul- taneousness in tlie time of 'hoi' resur- rection ? If not, what authority have we for sujjposing that the "vvn^ce" will sound at two (Hfferent times? in i 'I'hess. 4: 17, wc are told tha^ ifit' "Lord Himself shall descend from heav- en with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and the trump of (lod," and "the dead in Christ" are then to rise and the living saints to he "changed," &rc. Will the wicked hear //it's shout, or will He shout again a thousand years or more after He comes in order that they also may hear His voice? If so, where is the record ? 13. Q. As all nations arc to he judged "7C'//' io be burnc^ W'e believe that I lod > .'icnv gathcnng the wicked into i dead. intelli- es any say that eat was ithered \ the ,c that :d into TUF. rWO kKSltRkFfTIONS. things that ofiend, and "nst into the furnace of fire," hcforc the wheat, or righteous —are gathered into the ham, or "shine forth as the sun in the king- dom of their Kathcr ?" 1 6 Q. Also state whether this furnace of fire is the same as the lake of fire in Revelation 20. If so, is this consign- ment of the wicked thereto, the same as that mentioned in the 25th of Ahitt. or that ot Revelation 20? If the former, then is ihis also the casting of **nafio//s, as sue//," into hell ? If not, must noi the righteous and the wicked, or "tares and wheat " "grow together" during the millennium ? If so, how does this agree with prc-millennialism? 17 Q. Also, how do you harmonize the pre-millennial view of the two resur- rections with the parable of the net in Matt. 13 : 47-49, in which "the wicked are to he severed from among the just," and not the just from among the wicked ? 18 Q. If the righteous are all raised and "changed," or transfigured before the thousand years, when will they be judged ? 19 Q. If you say "never," as the Ply- mouth Brethren teach, then who are those found in the judgment described in the latter part of Revelation 20, whose names are by implication found writt ,'n in the iJook of Life ? Are they the pcisons raised before the millen- nium or another group ? And who are the "righteous" found in the judgment described in Matthew 25, " JF/ten the ■■>' Son of Man shall come in his gl Are thty not to be judged ? 20 Q. If these are not the same group will there not need to be two, or ; more, resurrections of the righteous ? bum lies, only He will not burn them until the righteous have been taken out of fhe earth. 16 A. It 1.^ the same furnace in every case; but not the same consignment. That in parable of tares and Matt. 2^ih are the same, taking |)la(e at the in- troduction of the day of the Lord, that , in Rev. 20, takes place at the vm\ of the world. Nations ns site' are not cast into hell, only the living wi( ked who have been separated from the right- eous. 17 A. In this parable then' 1 no reference to any resurrection; it only deals with living peo|)li' on the earth. 18 A. C:hrist says they shall not come into judgment. See J no. 5; 24. 19 A. No such persons are described in Rev. 20. liy "imj)lication" they are not in the book of life. The righteous in Matt. 25 are members of the nations and not of the Church. Their judgment is described, and the principle of the judgment is their treatment of Christ and His brethren and not reject- ion of Him as Son of (iod. 20 A . No, because these are living 22 THE TWO RESURRECTIONS. 21 Q. Will the "great conflagration" take place at the first resurrection or the second? And what will the effect be upon the earth? Will it be reduced to ashes, and so destroyed, utterly, or will It be simply purified, and made the future home of the saints ? 22 Q. If at the first resurrection will the bodies of all the wicked slumber on in the new earth for more than a thous- and years, and then be raised up among the immortal company, Christ and His glorified saints, to disturb their peace ? iU^' \^\,^^^ •^^''""^ resurrection the earth will then be purified. There IS no scripture teaching that it will be utterly destroyed. j . 22 A. It is not at the first resurrect- I ion. 23 Q. If at the second resurrection then will not the curse, as "thorns and briers," together with all the variations of climate, temperature, &c., still re- main while the earth is being inhabited by Christ and the glorified saints > And IS this a more "blessed hope" than post-millennialism offers, when it teaches that they will go to heaven and live forever m the presence of the Lcrd where there is fulness of joy and pleas- ures forever more ? 24 Q. PauLsaysin i Cor. rc: 21 &c that "they that are Christ's" will be raised at His ro»a\^. And he immed- iately adds, "Then cometh the end when he shall have delivered up the 23 A. See Romans 8: 18-24— For I reclu.n that the sufTerinRs uf (his nre- sentt.„ie«;r not Avon hy /.; fe am/'anJ with llie glory which shall be revealed in „s wl"I. J-*" '''Y"'''' "P'^'-'^-'^ion of the creature wa.eth for the manifestation of the sons of IjocJ. ' For the creature was made subject to vanitv not w,ll,nj,rly, |,i,t by reas..n of him who hath subjected ///e same in hope, because the creature itself also shall be de- livered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious lii)erty of the sons of God I' or we know that the whole creation groan- eth and travai eth in pain togeiher until now And not only ///,y/, but ourselves also, which have the hrstfruits of the .Spirit, even ^e our- selves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to 7oit, the redemption of our bodv tor we are saved by hope : but hope that is seen is not hope : f„r what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for ? , ny Also Isaiah 65: 25 The wolf and the lamb shall (eed together and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock • and dust shall he the serpent's meat. Thev shall not hurt nor destroy in all myholymoun tain, saitli the Lokd. Besides we do not say that Christ and His Saints will then inhabit the Earth. 24 A. "Then"here, refers to the last resurrection. The passage does not imply that theystay at His Father's right hand until this is done, The kingdom referred to is the Messianic kingdom 1 f THE TWO RESURRECTIONS 23 kingdom to God, even the Father ; when he shall have put down all rule, and all authority and power, For He must reign till He hath put all enemies beneath His feet. 'I'he last enemy that shall be destroyetl is death." Will you please state what time is meant by the word "then," here? Does it mean the end of the gospel age or dispen- sation, when, according to i)re-millen- nial teachings Christ comes, or the end of the world ? If the end of the gos- pel age, can death be said to be de stroyed at that time while countless- millions of our race are still held in his cruel grasp ? If at the general resur rection, or the end of the world, then does the passage not imply that Christ will come at the end of the world, 01 general resurrection ? What kingdom is He then to deliver up to the Father? And will He set up another kingdom after this, or will He then be "subject unto Him that put all things under Him?" 25 Q. Is not the destruction of the wicked in Rev. 20 : 9, and the casting of Satan into the lake of fire, ver. 10 part of the process implied in putting all His enemies beneath His feet ? If so, how can He come till after that is accomplished ? 26 Q. We read in Rev. i : 7, that when He cometh "f7'<7j eye shall see Him and they also which pierced Him." If they who "pierced" Him, see Him must they not be first raised from the dead ? If so, are they to be counted among the righteous ? 25 A. He comes to dothisvery thing; See Rev. 19: II. And I saw heavon opened, and hohold a white horse ; and he that sat upon him -mis called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and m .V.c war. 20: 15. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 26 A. They must be raised from the dead, and they are ncjt to be counted among the righteous, because they are His enemies. fl ^FT y 24 THE TWO RESURRECTIONS. 27 Q. Is the post-millennial theory cumbered with as great difficulties as the pre-millennial? To us the difficulties of pre-millennialists are insu[)erable. 28 Q. Would the doctrine of two res- ! urrections a thousand years apart, ever, according to your judgment, have ob- tamed among men, if pre-millennialism could have been maintained without it? 29 Q. Would you still adhere to the pre-millennial theory if you could be persuaded that Rev. 20 : 4, did not re- fer to a physical resurrection ? Trusting that I have not wearied you with my interrogations. The avowed i object of your meetings being to learn C;od's will on this subject, and believ- ing that such questions would elicit light, I respectfully submit them for your candid, prayerful replies. The difficulties involved in these questions, I have hitherto been unable to remove,' hence they have stood in the way of my acce[)ting the pre-millennial theory. I therefore remain A " Post-mi LLKNNiALisT " with my PRESENT LIGHT. I 27 A. To our minds, the difficulties 01 post-millennialism are insuperable, for It IS a doctrine that contradicts many of the plainest texts in God's word We would add further, that no man has any right to reject a doctrine because he finds it surrounded with difficulties. It is this principle that has led not a few to reject the doctrine ot election. 28. A. Yes, because explicitly taught m the Word of (]od. See answer to nrst question. 29 A. Certainly, because taught by other scriptures. See texts given in answer to these questions. J. M. 11 -^>^^b^-%t>^^<- The Judgments. Questions and Answers. 1 Q. Have you read and do you en- dorse the teachings of a small tract en- titled "The Four Judgments" by T. W. T.; that is, do you agree with the theory of judgments set forth in said tru'-t ? 2 Q. The writer of this tract in the very first sentence states that "It is a very general opinion that every one, good and bad, must appear before the great judgment throne, and that their good deeds are to be weighed in one scale and their bad deeds in another, and their fate decided accordingly," Never having met with this belief, to my knowledge, and knowing of no church that teaches it, would you be kind enough to state what Christian church or public teacher holds such a view of the question. Has the statement any foundation in fact, or is it a malicious slander? 3 Q. The writer uses the word "judgment" as applied to a general as- size, in the sense of condemnation, and then proceeds to prove that believers shall never come into judgment. Do you so understand the term when a gen- eral judgment or assize is intended ? If so, is it not as true that the 'ud^ment of the world is past, as that the I A. I have not read it, and there- fore cannot say whether I agree to the statements of the writer or not. I look only to the Holy Scriptures for authority on this and other revealed truths. 2 A. In regard to the view here given, I have never seen it formulated before, but I have often met individ- uals, who in conversation have ex- pressed a view similar to this, as being their notion of the final judgment. verse, John 5: 24, 3 A. The last says that the believer "shall not come into condemnation"or judgment, (forthe same CJreek word has both these rend- erings,) "but is passsed from death unto life." In the other cases, the world is still under the judgment sentence. 26 THE JUDGMENTS. judgment of //e/ievers is? else how do you interpret Jno. 12: 31, ^^M7c> is the jud^r„if/i/ oi thh world?" Also Jno. 3: 19," "/\nd this is the condemnation that light is come into the world," cVc. The same Greek word is used in both these cases, as in Jno. 5: 24. 4 Q. \Vhat is the jjrinciple and most important end of judgment, as unfold ed in the Scriptures? Is it to determine character, decide destiny, ascertain the proportion of reward, or vindicate the wisdom, equity, and' be- nevolence of the divine dealings with reference to man? 5 Q. If to determine character, is there not the same necessity for a judg- ment of believers as unbelievers? Is not the character of a sinner as well known to (Jod without a judgment as the character of a saint ? 6 Q. If to decide destiny, is not the same remark true? What greater un- certainty or indefmitcness is there as to where the sinner ought to go than where the .saint ought to go ? 7 Q- If a judgment is to ascertain the proportion of reward, is not the same thing equally true? Does not God understand the amount of punish- ment due to the sinner as well as He does the amount of happiness due to the saint ? 4 A. In relation to the setting up of Messiah's kingdom on the earth, it is designed for separation, reward and punishment. In fulfilling this design, the divine character will be fully mani- fested, in holiness, equity and benevo- lence. . Y/''."' ^^\ 3^' ^4, 4l-An(l before Him sinll be gathered all nations: and he shall sen- arate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth //is sheep from the goats: • Pu" '''?'''" ^^"^ ''^'"« s-'iy "»t" them on His right hand, Come ye blessed of my Father in- herit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 1 7u*-""-*f'=l" 11^'say also unto them on the lelt hand, Depart fiom me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 5 A. God declares in Rom. 8: i that "there is now no judgment to those who are in Christ Jesus." And this be- cause they "died in Him," or had their death sentence executed in Him." The judgment in every case is for the mani- testationof (Jod to His creatures and not for His information. 6 A. There is no decision of destiny in judgment; it is a declaration and ex- ecution of sentence. 7 A. It IS not for determining pro- portions of reward, so much as the mani- festation of His saints in presence of all holy beings, receiving their rewards of grace at the judgment seat, to the praise of His eternal glorv. THE JUDGMENTS. 27 8 Q. If to vindicate the divine ad- ministration with reference to our race, does not the same principle apply? 9 Q. Is it intended, therefore, that saints shall not he judged and sinners shall ? If so, where is it taught ? 10 Q. When we read in Acts 17 : 31, that, "God hath appointed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom He hath ordained," does He mean less than the whole world ? Or have we any proof that H» only means unbelievers ? 11 Q. If you interpret the term "world," as the Plymouths do, to in- clude unbelievers only, is it because the (ireek word oikouinenee so limits it ? If not, why ? 12 Q. And when the apostle adds in the above passage, "whereof he hath given assurance unto all men," does He merely mean that He hath given assur ancc to all men that the wicked will be judged, or that all men shall be judged. 8 A. All judgments do this. 9 A. Saints were judged in Christ and accepted. Cal. 2: 16— Kiiowiiif,' that anian is not jusli- ticd by the works of the law, l)iit by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have l)elicve(l in [esus Christ that we might he jiisiitied iiy thefixith of Christ, an(l not l)y the works of the law : for l)y the works (jf the law sliall no llesh he justilied. And i-vom. S: I. There is therefore now no condemnation tc them wliirliare in Christ fesus, who walk not after the llisii. Init after the Spirit. Sinners are to t>e judged for rejecting Christ. John 3: iS. — He that helicveth (m Him is not condemned: but he lliat brlieveth not is condemned already, l)ecause hehatlinot believ- ed in the name of the only beircjtten Son of Cod. Kev. 20 : 13.— And the sea ^'a^e u|i the de.id which were in it ; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them; and they were judged every man according to their works. 10 A. 1'his judgment refers to the whole scrutiny and decision of the affairs and character of all human beings up- on the grounds elsewhere, and in their several connections, fully revealed. II A. I know not why this interpre- tation is given. The term iiihalnted earth must refer to the race. 12 A. That all will be judged who are under condemnation, and therefore subjects of judgment. wmmfmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm'immmmmmmmmmmmmifmmmmmm<'^t*^\* ^ mmwm w m, f *\ iiiM i wpii \*\ m \m » m Mmy \ . mw hw wmi w iii n m ^mn m ^\t v m m- m m ■m^ »mt »tm^ 28 THE JUDGMENTS. 13 Q. In Rom. 2 : 6 etc.— Paul teaches that in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, "He will render to every man according to his deeds. " Does not this judgment include both classes ? "To them who by patient continuance in well doing, sock for glory and honor, and mimortality, eternal life, and unto them that are contentious and do not obey the truth, but obey unright eousnes.s, indignation and wrath " ? 13 A- It does. 14 Q- And is not this judgment of both righteous and wicked, in verse 16, declared to be "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ." How then can it be true that the righteous shall not come into judg- ment, in this sense ? And how can their judgment be of a different kind and at a different time from that of the wicked ? In other words, what author- ity have we for .saying that the judgment relatmg to the righteous will differ from that of the wicked in any sense except in the issue? 14 A. The best authority in the world, is the word of God. The Scriptures dis- tinctly declare this difference and there- fore we believe them against all human traditions. The passage quoted refers to a distinct judgment scene described in Matt. 25 : 31, 32., other passages speak of judgment in other conditions, thus :— 2 Cor. 5: 10., The righteous are judged in their glorified bodies, according to their deeds, for the pur- pupose of honoring and glorifyingChrist in them before the universe. In Matt. 25 : 30-46.— We have the judgment of living i^ersons in the na- j tions— and not a single member of His body, -vhich is the Bride is in that judgment, because before this, Rev. 19: 7, the marriage of the Lamb to His wife has taken place in heaven, and she is with Him according to i Cor. 6: 2, to judge the nations on the earth. This agrees with the Lord's promise to the apostles, Matt. 19: 28, also with the vision of John, in Rev. 20: 4, f. c, and the prophecy of Dan. 7 : 22., when the Saints possess the kingdom. This is at the beginning of the day of the Lord, which Peter in his 2nd Epistle 3 : 8., says, is "as a thousand years" and then the great white-throne judgment of the wicked dead only, is at the etid of the same day. — Rev. 20: 12. THE JUDGMENTS. 29 t 1 + 15 Q. If the judgments of good and bad are not simultaneous, as you are understood to teach, how do you ex- plain such passages as Matt. 16: 27; 25: 31, »S:c; 2 Cor. 5: 10; Rom. 14: 10-12; 2 Tim. 4: I, etc. ? 16 Q. Do you distinguish, as the Plymouth Brethren do, between the "coming of the Lord" and "the day of the Lord ? " If so, on what ground ? And how do you reconcile this with the teachings of Paul in i Thess. 4: 15 to 5:2? In 4; 15, the apostle speaks of "the coming of the Lord" and the resurrection of the righteous, and in 5 : 2, with only three verses between, he speaks of "the day of the Lord" and the destruction of the wicked. In the absence of any intimation to that effect, are we to understand that a period of more than a thousand years intervened ? 17 Q. If you say the "coming" and "day" are the same, how do you distin- guish between " the day of the Lord " and the "day of judgment"? 18 Q. If you do not distinguish between the "day of the Lord" and the "day of judgment," then how do you distinguish between the "coming of the Lord" and the "day of judgment?" 15 A. The context determines the interpretation. Matt. 16: 27; 25: 31, &c., refer to the same scene, the judgment of the nations, living persons, on the earth, by the Lord, and His church in their glorified bodies, i Cor. 6: 3; 2 Cor 5: lo, and Rom. 14: 12, are addressed to believers only, (See 2 Cor. : i,) and can apply to them alone throughout the age, and only to the scrutiny of their works for rewards in glory. 2 Tim. 4: i, refers to judg- ment of the living at His appearing in glory, and of the dead when the king- dom is delivered uj) to His Father. Rev. 20: 12; I Cor. 15: 24. 16 A. No prophecy of scripture is of i)rivatc interpretation, 2 Peter i : 20. We learn from 2 Peter 3 : 8, of "the day of the Lord " reckoned as a thousand years. We learn from Rev. 20: 5, that " resurrection the first," synchroniz- ing I Thess. 4:16, takes place in the morning of the day, and the judgment of the wicked who are alive follows the appearing of the Lord with His saints. Time will certainly be required for these events. And this calendar of Heaven provides a sufficient space. The evening of "the day of the I-ord" is the closing scene of judgment of the wicked raised before the (Ireat White Throne. 17 A. Plainly, the "coming" may be in one part of the day, and the "judg- ment" in another part. 18 A. All scriptures speaking of the coruing of the Lord for His own, dis- tinguish between that act and the corning of the Lord to judge. Judicial acts are plainly described as taking *;i TTT" 30 THE JUDGMENTS. 19 Q. The Apostle Paul in 2 Thess. 2: 1-2, plainly identifies the "Cominc of the Lord" and the "day of Christ." Do you distinguish between the "day of Chri.st" and the "day of the Lord?" If so, on what ground ? And if not must not the "coming" and the "day of the Lord" be simultaneous? place after He has taken His church to Himself. The context in connection with these terms is to determine their si)eciric application. 19 A. No. The revised version trans- lates the "day of the Lord," in this text, 1 think they mean the same event, viz that described in Titus 2: 13 with some exactness and distinction. I'he idea { of the anxious Thessalonians, seemed j to be that in some way that day was Mm.«/, and they had not realized the /wA previously given. In Titus we hnd the distinction of the "blessed hope" and the "appearing in glory," made so that the one would be the "aV pearing"oftheLordin the "air" and the other "His appearing" in glory on he earth. And this latter idea in the day of the Lord" or "of Christ," as well as an the "Coming" would not be developed, till the man of sin was re- vealed. 20 A. The "sudden destruction" re- fers to the surprise of the event upon the wicked. The "everlasting destruct- 20 Q. Is " the sudden destruction " mentioned in 1 Thess. 5 : 3, as comin-r on the wicked, the .same as the "eveP- me wicked The "ew ksting destruction" mentioned in the ion" to its "duration^' next chapter (2 Thess. i: 9.) If not, is ' ^"^ation. It because the "sudden" destruction is not "everlasting," or because the "ever- lasting destruction" is not "sudden " or from what other reason? ' the "sudden place in "the 2 1 Q. Observe, destruction" is to take , „. „.^. day of the Lord," and the "everlasting destruction"at the "comingof the Lord " If the destruction in both cases is the same, then, must not the " day of the Lord"andthe "coming of the Lord" be the same thing ? 21 A. The "coming of the Lord," as these several texts show, embraces several events successively in order of tmie. As the First Advent included in order, His recognition by the angels, by the Magi, His persecution by Herod flight into Egypt, His marvellous youth' His subjection while at His trade, His manifestation in His ministry. His humiliation, trial, death, resurrection ascension, gift of Holy Spirit, forma- ii THE JUnOMENTS. 3J 22 Q. If the destruction in both cases is not the same, then will they both come upon the same individual^ or will each kind come upon a different class of individuals? 23 Q- Again, if the wicked, or "them that know not God and obey not the (iospel," are everlastingly destroyed "when the Lord cometh to be glorified in His saints," must they not be judged at this time ? and if judged, must they not be raised? or will they be raised and judged more than a thousand years after they are everlastingly destroyed? 24 Q. If it be said that this destruc- tion " only embraces those who are alive at the Lord's coming, then, and in any case, by whom will the millennial earth be peopled, except by Christ and the inimortal company ? Can persons live in the flesh and propagate their species after being "punished with ever- lasting destruction from the presence of the Lord ?" tion of Church, dispersion of Jews, present session at the right hand of His Kather. So the Second Coming of the Lord emi)races the "rapture of the Church," I Thess. 4: 14 iS, the great tribulation. Matt. 24 : _>i;; 2 Thess. 1:7, revelation ot the man of sin, 2 'Thess. 2:3 8; destruction of the wicked, 2 Thess. I : y; the glory of the saints, 2 Thess. i: 10; the binding of Satan, Kev. 20: 2; the repentaiue ofthc jews, Matt. 23: 39; tht< ingathering of the nations, Isa. 55 15; the establishment ot the Messianic kingdom in universal sway, Ps. 72: 11-17. These things can- not be done in a 24 hour tlay. 'They do not group and burst sinuiltaneously on the earth ;iiiy more ilian the succes- sive events of the First Advent of our Lord. 22 .\. 'I'he destruction is the same in kind -the subjects are the wicked who come into judgment, both living and dead. 23 A. The living wicked are judged according to Matt. 25: 30; the wicked dead according to Kev. 20: 12. 24 A. Certainly not. It is evident from Scripture that the nations who are living on the earth at the time of the Lord's manifestation in Matthew 25 : 30, include sheep and goats, and there fore in some sense are christianized, or conforming to the general requirements of Christianity in outward form ; as the expression "having the form of godli- ness, but not the power" shows. Again, I 32 THE JUnOMKNTS. 25 Q. Again, we read in Matt. 25 : 41, thalthe wicked during the judgment described in that chapter, are sent into "evedasting fire." This, too, is "■when the Son of Man shall come in His glory," V. 31. Now, as this banish- ment into everlasting fire, in Matthew, and "being punished with everlasting destruction," in Thessalonians, both occur at the same time, will you be so kind as to state whether they are both the same thing? If not the same wherein do they differ ? And are they both conmion to the same class of in- dividuals ? That is, can the same per- sons be punished with "everlasting de- struction," and sent into "everlasting fire" also. 26 Q. And as these visitations must be pre-millennial, can the same persons be "punished with everlasting destruc- tion again after the millennium ? If not, can they be judged then ? 27 Q. On the first evening of your meetings you were understood to say that the judgment of Matt. 25 : was a judgment of "nations, as such,'' in- cluding, of course, "all nations," {v. 32.) living on the earth at that time. The issue of this judgment is said to have the Jews are a distinct people at that time, and have a special mission as is seen from Zech. 8 : 7, 8, 23. He- side there will be the outlying barbar- ous nations, from which God is now gathering the church, the bride of Christ, through the preaching of the gospel and the election of the Father and the calling of the Spirit. From these nations and the Jews, we may in- fer, that the millennial earth will be peopled, though we have no distinct re- velation on this point in this age. ?5 A. They do not differ, and cer tainly the same speech applies to both. 26 A. We have no evidence from Scripture, that they will be. 27 A. We find no evidence in Scrip- ture, that the subjects of judicial deal- ing in the morning of the " day of the Lord " will appear again for judgment in the evening of that day. 1' THK JUDGMENTS. been "everlasting punishment" to the I one class and "life eternal" to the other 7'. 46. Now, will you ])lease state whether these nations will ever be ! raised frnn the dead? c. .i,--. will the' wicked nations who are driven into | "everlasting fire" without dying, be raised from the dead more than a thous- and years afterwartls, and judged again, as in Rev. 20 : ra etc., and "cast into the lake of fire" again, v. 15? If so, what proof do you offer ? 28 Q, Will you also be so kind as to indicate what particular sins the "living nations"of that dayare charged with that they should be deserving of two judg- ments and being twice visited with "everlasting punishment," while sin- ners of other ages escape with but one? 29 Q. And will those "righteous" living nations who are judged at this time and go into "life eternal" ever die, or ever be raised, or what process will they undergo ? 30 Q. Is not the ground of this judgment, viz. — The treatment of Jesus in the person of His ambassadors- -a principle distinctly taught in the gospel, which will be necessarily recognized in general judgment ? What necessity, therefore, exists for a separate judgment of a particular generation of men on this principle when all men during all generations, must needs be judged on the same principle ? Would it not be a rational interpretation of this passage to regard it as an illustration of the fact that this principle would constitute an important element, not the only element, but an important one — in the general judgment, so as to afford an incentive on the one hand, and an ad- monition on the other, to a proper treat- ment of His servants, the Christian 28 A. No one ever said, to our knowledge, they would be judged twice. 29 .\. We find no revelation on these (luestions. They belong to the age beyond this. ■S':> A. Opinions have differed with judicious expositors of both schools, pre and post, as to the (jbje( t and sub- jects of the judgment in INfatt. 25 : 30; But we think it jjlain from the words' of the Holy (Ihost. that no dead persons are raised for judgment at this time, because there is ni) reference to them nor to resurrection. 'I'he scene is uj)on the earth — the nations, are living per- sons in mortal bodies, because the dead are never referred to in this way. Etjually true is it, that the great white- throne judgment in Rev. 20: 12, makes mention of no living persons present in mortal bodies. The subjects of the two judgments, are therefore entirely different. A careful comparison of Scriptures concerning the Church, the Body and Bride of Christ, will show 34 Ministry? AnH ...u ~ . " Ihat .his ,!,« ,„'"'" """""'"»'"octwc"cn t r '''^''''^^''''■''''' '"ter- ^^•'f'' Hi^ L ",;f;''" ^^t''-' I-ord ^-uiicr^^;^'";;;;;"[!;-./-shythe <^od in the old T... ^ '"-'^t-'-i" Kra. the nations-!^',, ;.r;r ""'"' ^^'^'^ "7J-jud«n.ent",;u^tS[--nts tio ^ ^'--' i-ign.nts u r^et- you believe |,cr^r''"''^'^'"t«^"', "nbeliev^ ;,^"^^';;'^"--d l,y n^^^ ■saints will Ix^Vnied ''"'"' '''^'"^' away secretly 'Ch? ^^""^ •'*"^' taken (ore^annot'•|,e ' jr'ftr'"^' ^^^'- H'« saints, but when H '"'""' >'' them. Now if .iTl r ""• ''''"^''^ '"''^^' i taken awayln;;tt lb '?r'"^^^^ (son.e say seven) b w' ,'•'' '''''' >^'ars '^7 -'/;^::^^{,^ -J'-i-'Mn,ent, righteous persons ,. ?k "'^'lons" of they return^ V, , ,^, ,^V''^^'^ ^'^^'^ «" much faster I '*;' ''^' ''""'■*^'-t"' the saints tli;:;i^beS"'f"'^^"- «^ a pity that th,.v hJ I '^"' '■'^ 't not •ifree with Peter's sM." •''*' ""» cond E|,is,|e T- , '.u"-'"?' '" W" «- a reason of thf ^mn ™ ''^' •■"'^'8'« as '-y of Chrlt'^fc'ol^^th" ." ■^iJlfS'^? 'i- -ff-ng to US-ward' '„'S':Xl? '2" . 3' A. I Thess 4 • ,r. T., 'tplaintoanyone th^?;b^"'7'^•'^'^^ l^'' His saints 2 Th^^'' ''"•■'' ^«'"^'« '"akes plain the revehtroT/i^'^' 9, '"K 'manifestation of fhVJ""^ '"^'"^^^8- ,Hi.s characte ?w n ^ ^^^^^ ^/ •^»'. Itoryand fro.^'^R^;^ ^;;"!- ^-^ ^is- '''^^' Martyr penodac:ar'din«^ any should parish, hut that conic to repentance ?" >" should, 35 plain ,1,;') '" "'- --' tan yon ^J.mi„^:^C h :.;::■; ^ '"""" "> "-■ »y what a J„-,v" , '" "'"""» I"-'"- "latic, f, I ' , '""^■- ' '"■■ Ki-eat Ir/h- - .hcs;:^^: ;;:' -;-";"..aim.s <;,,H.s, e';ah^ ./,^w,.,i ,. - "' '''iit a Ljreat tnu' are these ^natu^;' r,^;;^^";;-^^'''^- verted so soon? I W 1- ^'' ''"' '!*" lire answer? "^^^^ g'vc a scnpt- .34 Q. If you say hv tho r..«.o u w I he r<-sfnr,>.i K ;, 'v "le Jews, who he rapture ,s secret, what will ^Te I,' to convert tliem any m„re than ,, fer ' the^^'satSV""^'--- l^nnciple S; »'ork will I,, ,t ■, ''" "•-^"'■J- "'■ 'l>i» tliL'ir friends AmH .i. u "^'^'^^^"^^ of -;i n.art.r.ion,'!;';! : ;^/---;on :^eS^•^^^,!::1^■r'll^:"'-ill;: -^"^:!lr,;;ii^■„'■^„::;7^^■^r tho I'cntecosia^'ve;;''''' ':!''" "' -nnt.rste'sa;,!':^','';''-; Il""" '"'"* 'vilM>e„K,rcWl,,f?l,l ' """■'■"-■'J '"en |.crsecutio„„f f4 ™,""»-.an,l,he 7" "»nti,,i, the ins :;,'"!"''-■''''•: lien need tr. ^^ """" '•^-', vjud wi of His elea " '^' ^^'^"'^ """^»>er 36 THE JUDGMKNTS. 35 Q. Moreover, in Rom. u- .. we are taught that "blindness in part is ha,rpened unto Israel until the fLess of the (,ent>les be come in." Now T?!]7'"i'''"' the secret coming of the to-night and the Jews be sent oi^t to preach the gospel of the kingdom to ofT7' ""^ V'' '"'"^ '^'' "the fulness of the ( xentiles" is now brought in? 36 Q. Would not the conversion of several whole nations of (ientiles be heir "fulness" in a much more appro pnates^^nsethanwhatisatpresen rue in Rom' ,? "^ rendered "fulness" Plemem » /h '5' ""'^^^^^^^o the "com- Mtment, the "set number" and refers ?^I H "^''!.''T"^^ «^ the Church, he 36 A. No, becau.se "fulness" does not mean "wnolencss," but the"electtn' promised to Christ for His Bride 37 Q. Is it definitely known how ^ng.t will be after the I^ordcomes/J His saint.s, until He comes wM His right in fixing it at .seven years? If so Will the "nations" not know ju.st thS length of time beforehand when the coming o. the Son of Man and thei? udgmentwillbePand how does this agrees with other scriptures, such a Matt. 24: 36,42,44; Mark 13: 32 &c.? thnV.u ■ ^^'■.'Ptures distinctly state ! ^^^^^ '^' time IS not known, the lim t of ! seven years, or of more or ess time t I wholly of conjecture ' 38 Q. Again it is declared in Matt 24: 30, 31, that when the Son of Man comes visibly in the clouds of heaven Ji'l^S'''^"^ great glory, that//." He shall send His angels with a j^r^ea/ soundofatrumpei^ and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds from one end of heaven to the other" Presumably this will be His premillen- nial coming at the close of the secret rapture. Now if He came seven year before and gathered His elect together and took them away into the a^r^whS will the elect be that are gathered to nations which were converted during the raj)ture, or some that were missed at the first gathering? I „.,>i \- Y " ^"^^"'t to answer this I u th satisfaction, whatever view is held of the millennium, because of the diff ering and confused views held concent tiiblt I he presumption of the ques- Place at h"' T"""^^ «^^»n^Pass. takef place at the Lord's return with His ion:ithH'"-'t;^°'^^^'^--"nec^^^ I '°" 7'^h His words to the Jews, as the \fiK tree ,s their symbol. ^ VVe th i k theref^,re, that this is the gathering of hat./../ nation. All students 7 thi Iwble must have noticed, that the JeZ A '/f'^'^/^^f ^ nation, and the C^ns^ian eectton, of individuals out of allnat.ons, including the Jews, and called THE JUDGMENTS. 37 th^ Church. The fact of the defection of the elect nation from their covenant position as the heavenly people, Matt 21 : 43. (compared with Ex. lo- c 6 \ by disobedience, does not prevent' the uture fulfillment ofcovenam promise ? !u ^T '''' ^^"^ ^'''^y «^^'>^« of earth ,, O wn K r^^ ^he head of all the other nations. ' na^-^n^- who" arf iSnT^'tf Sc'^^" ^'^ «"^ "" --'^^^ion in judgment in Matt. .5/and "go away n ""'"" ^" ^'^'■^ '•°'"^- to life eternal" "live and reign w th XarsP ''' ''''' '--^ ^'' ^h-s' ;;A^5LSm;a^l!;^ tl ar:lbeca°us^\Io"r-T"°^'^^"^^'-^ '^•-'-. ahve and remain at the time of ZVrZ^l '"""'"' '' completed and -././ coming some seven years efo^e ' ""' '" ""•^''^"^- '^-•- ^9- 7- If so, does not this involve two trans- ' I. no IHVUIVt formations of living saints.? 41 Q. Again, ifthe righteous nations aj a -i-u w.cked nations "go away into eve last -rt^f/L^yti^-ed^:;^;:^ thou.sand of His saints to irea//, n^^>nent upon all, and to convinced hat are ungodly among them of ; tbeir ungodly deed.s," L. Is his the X' J^^g'^^'^t as that in Matthew 25' Also the same as the "everlasting de- ruction" of Thessalonians ? All are when the Lord cometh," hence pri' millennial, according to your teachiigs hence they must alLbe the jud..men"^of nations, «.. suchr or else therearc two pre-millennial judgments, one of "na ' <^t\h^^^ ^^'^ '" ''"^^ '■' comprehen- sive of all judgment period.s, it may in- clude the judgment in the morning and the evening of "the day of the I ord " and violate no laws of language, nor rules of interpretation. 38 THE. JUDGMENTS. the calendar of Heivon ./ '^^^^'^« to difficulty Th,. rlo^?', ''"■'' '■'^ "o t'^ousand yea is 7. '^'' l''''^^ ^' ^ government '^T'"'' "^ ^'^'^'^^^'""•s since? And if th.J r i' "^ ^'^^"^ berai.sedbi:e' I*::^;r„'f'■""' ^«« according to his cZT'> *° ''"''^' same as the day of ' " ^'^^ tionedin.'fc;.-"?--^^ "s snnilar in both ,)assa^. J . ^f^^guage the characters des ibcT I'n" r'" ""'' Jt IS "the div r.f 1 " Romans ™/,rffrom heaven in fl ? "''■■"';'' " '''' ■ns ve„«ea„ce;^"a':;iSn;:;r, •r i I THE JUDGMENTS. nbulat.on." In Romans the clnnc tcrs who are visited with -'infh'S" -d wrath, tribulation and an^^;^"^^: bosewhodonot obey the mith but ;^-yunnghteousness."^n'J^; alo' ''" ^hey are such as "know not (Jod and obey not the uosnel " Hi v. 39 isi.lfoK 'J"\'«"^^'"t in Romans, IS s ,d to be ",n the day when Cod i ^l^ill judge the secrets of men by |e u Christ according to my gospel" In I Jtsus shall be revealed from heaven in flamn,g fire, taking vengeance on ho " that o/,ej> ,^0/ /Ae jr^s/,,/.'' Now if hese evx-ntsand characters are no^Ihc sam^ what event involving the ''tak ^ven pnce on the disobedient," and Zl cv^,stn,gd.strtu:tion,";i,,tak;p;::; o hu f.r "V""'"' ''' "e^-^^Iy akin Ota of the judgment of Romans 2, on he supposition that // is after the '"■Icnmum? Do you hold to a 1^^ anc AA.Y-m,IIenniaI judgment of wicked , persons, apart from the judgment o nations, 'V..w/," described in MatI .^P If not, IS the judgment of 2 Thess i'- 7-;, and J tide ...,4, ,5, the same thing as the judgment of Matthew? Thev are all said to be at the Lord's coming? I tl'e Iwo Resurrections," re pre- ' sents the judgment of 2 Cor c 'i„ ' as a judgment of believers only, to take place m ''the air" during the ra^tureo he samts, "for the purpose of 'bestow 7^ a e """i" T'^'t '"'"^ '^«"«^'^ I he Pour Judgments." If this be so .Jy should the apostle imn.edSi add,mz.. ii,"KnoNving therefore the thint ; ' " '■^I'^'f't'"" of the same flng, several times already answered. I /^^ Jn|J«nient of nations in their in- fdmdua characters is pre mili:;;;,al, ; e^h U ^f ""'y I^^'^'^o"^ alive in the' flesh Mat 25: 32. The judgment of all the wicked dead is post-mill<^nnia] and includes none alive in the flesh so for as the word of (iod speaks concVn 'ngit. Kev. 20:5, f.c, 12, 13. 47 A. The word "terror" here does not mean >/^/,/, ,H,t anxiety. Thi anxiety was not respecting his^..,.,, and of rtV ^^'' Judgment of his and of all believer's works -was sub jecting tnem to a standard or testljn the decision. His anxiptv wnc .... chr..,M k .1 V 'y ^^'^^' as ours should be-that when he had preached to others, and laboured to present thern m coinpleteness before the I.ord-Iest he should fail to meet the /../ applied in . . i w. ' . - ' J ii j. i J.aMli ii 40 THE JUDGMENTS. terror of the Lord we persuade Men ?" And wliy should he state in the preced- ing verse 9, "Wherefore we labor that, whether pn.'sent or absent, we may be accepted of him ?" Is it not the "terror" of being rejected in the judgment of which he sjjeaks? And if none but be- lievers are admitted to that judgment, how can this be true of them ? 48 Q. Again, may I ask, if this judg- ment of believers is to take place before Christ's coming, and to consist only of persons previously "raised," and "changed," and taken up "to meet the Lord in the air," how can those righte- ous "nations, as such," mentioned in Matt. 25 : and all whom Mr. Parsons says will be "saved" during the millen- nium "appear before this judgment seat of Christ to receive the things done in the body .? " If not " ])ossible then is it true even of believers that they '■'■must all appear,' etc. ? 49 Q. When we read in Matt i6 : 27, that "the Son of Man shall come in the^gloiy of the Father with His angels, and then he -hall reward every man ac- cording to nis works," does He mean the same as the apostle Paul means in Rom. 2 : 6, 'who 'vill render to every man accoi ding to his deeds ?" If so, then must not the general judgment take place at the time of Christ's com- ing? In the one passage it is when the Lord come.-,, and in the other " in the day when (Jod shall judge the se crets of men by Jesus Christ." the judicial scrutiny, to all he had done. The word in the Creek means "not ap- proved"— which is rendered "castaway" . in r Cor. 9:27, and the \/hole con- nection, in both cases, refers to the at- tainment of prize or reward in the life race for the crown. This is entirely dif- ferent from salvation, which a believer has absolutely for nothing from Christ and that before he starts in the race. ^ 48 A. The bride of Christ, the Church, will be manifested with Him when He appears in glory. Col. 3 : 4. I John 3 : 2. All after that will not be of the bride. We have no revelation concerning them, except of nations sa- ved on the earth. We should ever re- member that the ages past, and this age, have had revelations at the commence- ment specially referring to the details of the age. 49 A. Paul in Rom. 2 : 6 uses lan- guage which aptly applies to all the re- quirements of judgments revealed in the Bible, whether of works or of per- sons It is true if used— of the scrutiny at the Judgment seat— of the assize at the throne 0/ glory, and at the great 7vhite throne. A general judgment no more requires a simultaneous judgment, than a general Resurrection— requires a simultaneous Resurrection. 50 Q. When Paul says, 2 Tim. 4: r, "I charge thee therefore before G ^d and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and dead at his appear- ing," &c., who does he mean? If the general judgment does not take place 50 A. He will do what the passage di.stinctly implies, in accord with the di- rect assertion of other scriptures. He will judge the "quick" or living, at His manifestation in glory, and the "dead" at the completion of His Kingdom, THE JUDGMKNTS. 41 at the time of "His appearing" it cannot be that. If the wi'cked dead are not tiien raised it can- not nichide them. If the "(luick" or hving righteous, and the righteous dead are all taken away to the air be- ' foreliand, and pass their only judgment that of "deeds," before their return then who will Christ judge at His 'ap- |)earing?" ■when He shall deliver it up to the I'ather, after His triumph over the last enemy Death. 5 1 Q. K the righteous receive glory, honor, peace, and eternal life, "in the day when (^od shall judge the secrets ot men by Jesus Christ," (Rom. 2: 7- 16,) and the wicked receive "indigna- tion and wrath, tribulation and\n- guish," in the same day, how can it be iwssible that there will be two separate judgments of the righteous and wicked, more than a thousand years apart, and how can it be possible that the right- eous ".«hall not come into judgment?" 52 Q. When Jesus says in [ohn 6: 39. 40, 44 and 54 joncerning His own people, "I will raise them up at the /asf dciy," to what day does He refer ? Is It the last day before the millennium or the last day after the millennium ? 53 Q- And when He .says concern- ing the wicked, John 12: 48, "The word that I have spoken the same shall judge hmi in the /asf day," which does He mean, the >.v/ last day, or the hsf laLJt day ? 51 A. fJecause (Jod says His day is as one thou.sand years- 2 I'eter 3 • 8 - and Cod .says the Ueliever shall not come mto judgment. John s: 24 (Re- vision). The word "condemnation in the Creek is the same rendered in our version "judgment" in vs. 22, 27, .0 of same cha[)ter. 54 Q- And when Martha says of her brother, Jno. 11:24, "I know "that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the /as^ day," does she mean the first last day, or the last la.st day.? In other vvord.s, did the Jews believe in the two resurrection theory before this time ? 52 A. lo the day of His manifesta- tion- -wh.ch opens at His coming for His saints to manifest them in glory - and closes with the public manifestation and judgment of the wicked dead. 53 A. He means the one day of the Lord— which is the one last day which IS as one thou.sand years -which is the millennium. 54 A. They did not. Like most christians now, they deemed it to be at the end of the world, a winding up of the affairs of the earth and a deser- tion of the globe left as a floating cind- er in space. Jesus corrected Martha's view -by telling her that He was the Resurrection, and the Life, of i\Mzbody. In other words expanding the state- ■V — r— • 42 HE juih;m?:nt.s. 55 Q. In Isa. 45 : 23, God is repre- sented as having sworn by Himself, that "unto Him every knee should bow, and every tongue swear." Does this apply to all men, or to believers only ? 56 Q. If to all men, then in what mentin 1 Cor. 15: 23, 51, and in i lhe.ss. 4: 13-18, He gave the present liope of the church— Resurrection and translation at His call from the upper air. 55 A. 'Jo all men. 56 A. To believers only, because sense d„e.s, he a„os.leu.,c ie «he„ Ik. He w.s'wriunrto th n Z^, Ror"" Z", */".'.',:;l'..'^!?l^,,'"^,':"''=."'' "■*'";-="' I ••'«'« •" ^.P|.ru|,ri;uc letters ,,^".^[0 seat of Christ," and "every one of us give an account of himself to (]od ?" J)oes he use it in the broad sense in which the |)roi)het seems to use it, to mclude a// men, or does he narrow it to include believers only ? 57 Q. If to believers only, or in any case, does it not prove that believers are to give an account of themselves to God as unbelievers ? saints than to appropriate letters written on earth to other persons than them- selves. 58 Q. If he uses it in the broad sense to include all men, then on what principle of interpretation can the parallel ])assage, 2 Cor. 5 : 10. — For we must .all appt-ir be- fore thejudgment seat of Clirist ; that every one may receive the things (lone in his h.Hly, according to that he hath done, whether it Ijc good or i)ad. be limited to believers only? 57 A. No. Because it is expressly stated to be an account of that which he hath done, good or bad, 2 Cor. 5: JO, and this harmonizes with i Cor v 14, 15. ■ 58 A. There is no broad sense here including all men. " Wk " ~ does not mean any others than those addressed, 2 Cor. i : i -/.f.— all of this character throughout the age. 59 Q. Does not i Cor. 4: 3-5 teach that all men, even believers, will be judged at the coming of the Lord ? It reads as follows : "But with me it is a very sinall thing that 1 should be judged of you, or of man's judgment : yea, I judge not mine own self. For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified ; but he that judgeth | the judgment seat mc IS the Lord. Therefore judge i 59 A. This is simply a judgment of actions, as to their character, from the motive producing them, 'i'here is no determination concerning the character of the person, because that is settled in his being a saint, but whether his deeds are done for the Glory of God or other- wise, is a matter for Christ to judge at THK JUDGMENTS. h^H K- ^'""^ ^''" t^'-i'^^ to life the 'ddcn th.ngs of darknct and u M "^ake manifest the counsels f' 'earts ; and then shall .re,y 'L/ n v Pra.sc of (;od," I'Icasc ein hi ? 43 <'>o Q. Is there any authoritative dis ie "nVp '" '""■" ''^■^^^■-" ^'- l> - s.ige ana Koni. 2 • 16 ? Fm ^vtu , h/l 1 "'"• •« • 1 r in other wonlc ^Vhen the Apostle in this plarj s exts of he Lord as "bringing to IH jt ind 1 t? "" '"""•'^"''^ ^'" ^'^^' hearts r and m Rom. 2:16, alK.ut His ''nuHnr he secrets of man ac:cording to ^he g^'! noUhe judgment or it^^rS P-n^nn.a,, or the Advent post-m;^ 61 Q In 2nd Peter, 3rd chapter the TorZeh 7pV'"'''">"^''"'^ ^hat the i->orc delayed His coming; and he inri dent y mtroduces the de'tmct In o "he j world hyvvaterin the past, and ."ntt ' future l)y fire. In the midst of this dis cuss.on he avers that "the Lord i^^^ slack concerning His promise .s ome men count slackness," by uhich^ ' ev,dendy means concerning^His coming He, then, immediately adds, "Hut the dayofd.eLord..^Uasa MefT^I the n.ght, m which the heavens shaM ! pass away with a great noise J^ 'he eements melt with fervent heat'' etc ' Does he here mean the same thin, n i po.nt of time, as the Coming o> the I Lord, or does he introduce with a d s junctive conjunction, a second event I more than a thousand year, distant ? | ^'o A. Rom. 2 : 16 rpfi-r^ f.. • 1 mentby lesus Chri. \ .■ J"''^'" pspelUXd bv'Crthfl^n'' >^"en quoted niany 'tin e\r'H; "^^^-^ d'stinctly the o,ir ^^1 medt^'^ ^H g.nent. There is.;^,./, a ju^'e,^ o >eI,evers,ntheirglorilie,llc.d;\. "s No -the Advejil is pre-miilunniil iML (lead in resurrection. 1 ^'^■. ^" verse S of that chanter th^ I aj>ostle gives the time of that da \V fh ,' "■ /" i^"-'^^^'^''-, the Lord shows the utes ?h "'■' ^^'''''^>' "■ 9 '^"d then con ch hI h'" ^^''^^^"'"y. hy dec:Iaring the change he purgation oi fire will nnke I he disjunctive "but" of the ve se 8 is ^'^-imstthesneerofthescoffercon™-;' iC:^"ff r '" M. and the di^:::? s-'urity n^'rr^^^-"'^^^heirV^ as to the7ime of LZ" " "" '^"fe'^^^^^tion , . '^ time 01 the day when the /lie ™lut,on shall lake place, ev-™ ,„!„ ' 44 THF, JUDGMENTS. 62 (^. If he means the same period then does not this ])assage imply that the destruction of the earth will take i)iace at Christ's Coming ? If so, on what will He and His Saints, to- gether with the Jews and others dwell during the thousand years? And will the nations whom Satan goes out to deceive after the millennium, be dwelling on a planet that was destroyed more than a thousand years before ? And will the wicked dead slumber on in such a planet for more than a thous and years after its destruction ? The gravity and im))ortanceofthesub- ject, together with the difficulties with which it is encumbered, will I trust, be a sufficient justification for submit- ting such a number of questions. Though it is exceedingly difficult to dis- entangle, altogether the Advent, judg- ments and resurrections, yet, I trust that none of the questions will be con- sidered altogether irrelevant or unim- portant. A dispassionate and Scriptur- al reply to each, as far as possible, will be exceedingly gratifying to Yours A "PoST-iMlI.LKNNIALIST," With my present light. ceeding the establishment of the New Heavens and the New Earth on this globe. 62 A. No, because the Day of the Ivord, /s so defined in v. 9. as to give room for all things assigned to it, in the order stated by many other scriptures, and in entire harmcjny. The close of the 1,000 years is as much the Day of the Lord, as the beginning. The reverent believer in (iod's word, must endeavor to search as the ancient pro- phets did (i Pet. I : 11) the Script- ures of both Testaments, knowing that the Sjiirit is given expressly to enlighten us, and reveal the things of Cod. i. Cor. 2: 12. And as against the cry of "mystery" and "presumption" let us fearlessly, yet humbly hold to i. Cor. 2: 10. The undersigned has endeavored prayerfully to consider and give such answers, as in his judgment, the word of God warrants, to the foregoing ques- tions, with the hope that some degree ot light may come to all who may review these most solemn and important themes — and wit"., the prayer that what- ever is not in accordance with the mind of the Spirit as revealed in the Word, may be discerned, avoided, and set aside — and that whatever is seen from the Word, to bear His authoritative approv- al may be received into good and honest hearts. These words are committed to the thoughtful consideration of all who are interested in the corning of our Lord. H. M. P. /Is mer ^ NEW BOOiC BY THE AUTHORS OP /Is •♦THE APPROACHING END OF THE AGE." '" One Vclume. 8vo.. 700 pp. Cloth Extra, prlco G 35. With Two Colored Diagrams LIGHT FOR THE LAST DAYS, A STUDY HISTORIC AND PROPHETIC, BY Mr. and Mrs. H. Grattan Guinness. Authors of "The Approaching End of the Age," etc., etc. A work comparing in a fuller and more accurate manner than has previously been attempted— in the h\rht of astro- nomic and archcL'ologic discovery— the pi-e(hctions of r,il)l(. Prophecy with the great facts of the history of the last tw(«nty- five centuries. It demonstrates the point now reacht^tl in the Divme programme of universal history, and cc^nsiders the; character of the coming kingdom, as well as the order of events which will, according to Scripture, introduce it. The hook indicates many wonderful and suggestive relations bi'tween Bible statements and ftimiliar facts, and has great evidential and controversial, as well as expository value. It is comj^re- hensive in scope, non-speculative in character, and philosophi- cally cautious in its deductions—focussing the light from Scrip- ture and from the analogies o{ past history— on tht; critical events of the present, and on the near future. COMMENDATIONS. Rev. S. H. Kellogg, D.I). :— It was about eight years ago that Mr. Grattan (kiinness, first came before the pubhc as a writer on the Prophecies, in the pubHcation of ' Tiih Ai>i'roa( m iNG End of the Age.' The large sale of 15,000 copies of this work seems to show that the verdict of the imblic has to great a extent agreed with that of a competent critic, who pronounced the work 'one of the most valuable of recent contributions to the exposition of unfulfilled i)rophecy.' " We have just read a new volume by Mr. Guinness, ' Light for the Last Days,' practically supplemental to the former work. In this last work he apphes with marked ability, to the system of interpretation for which he so ably argued in the earlier volume, the test of historical fulfilment. \Vhilc we cannot agree with him in a// his interpretations, we cannot but feel that he has conclusively vindicated the essential correctness of the princtpi fs of mterpretation for which in ' The Approaching End ' he gave us such a remarkable, able and original argument. — V '-'^ VAif ^ vatr ' •**«Vi^, 1 Although he has been compelled by his subject to deal with the difficult and perilous subject of the prophetic dates, it can, we believe, be justly said, that he has never lost sight of the words of our Saviour, with regard to His personal advent, that " of that day and hour knoweth no man." And while it is true that his argument if accepted, must constrain one to the belief the end draweth near, it is to be remembered that our i.ord Himself said that so much knowledge as this would be attainable, as the time of His coming should approach. " When ye see these things coming to pass, know ye that He is nigh, even at the doors." We heartily commend 'I,ic;ht for thk Last I)A\s,'esi)ecially in connection with the former work of Mr. (Juinness, to the careful study of students of the Prophecies. If we mistake not, both preterists and futurists will fmd it a task of uncommon difficulty to disprove Mr. (luinness' argument for that old historical system of interpretation, whi h until the present day has been r'^ "enerally adopted by Protestant expounders of the [)rophecies. Thk Church Guardian : — This work comjjares in a more full and accurate manner than has |)reviously been attemi)ted -in ihe light of astronomic and arch;eologic c'iscovery the predictions of Bible Prophecy with the great facts of the history of the last twenty-five centuries. It demonstrates the point now reached in the Divine programme of universal history, and considers the character of the coming kingdom, as well as the order of events which will, according to Scripture, introduce it. The authors argue strongly for the i)re-millennial theory, and claim that it was not until the 17th century that the doctrine that the second advent of Christ would precede the millennium was bioached. The l)ook will be found most attractive, instructive and interesting, even to those who may not be able to accept fully the conclusions arrived at. 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