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 National Library Bibliotheque nationale 
 of Canada du Canada 
 
 NORTH SHORE RAILWAY. 
 
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 SUPPLEMENTAL PtEPORT 
 
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 CHIEF ENGINEER 
 
 UPON THE LOCATTON OF THE LINE WITHIN AND NEAR 
 
 'jTn-:cnv of Quebec 
 
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 OFFICE OF THE ENGINEER IN CHIEF, 
 
 Quebec, JitJij [)//i, 1874. 
 Mr. Pkesident. 
 
 I have Hie honor to submit herewith, for the consid- 
 eration of tlie Board of Directors, maps and profiles of 
 the different lines examined within the Cit)^, and in the 
 immediate vicinity of Quebec. 
 
 On the 10th of October 1872, I had the honor of sub- 
 mitting to the Board, a Report accompanied by maps and 
 profiles, upon the location of the entire Main Line of the 
 Eoad, from Quebec to Montreal. In which Report it was 
 stated generally. 
 
 " That the starting or Initial point of the line has been 
 fixed near St. Pauls Market, in the City of Quebec. After 
 leavhig this point, the line enters King street, near its 
 

 2 ENGINEER rf REPORTS ON LOCATION 
 
 intersection with St. Rochs street, and follows the center 
 of King- street westerly to its intersection with St. Ours 
 street, at the western limits of the City of Quebec. Thence 
 it crosses, in a direct line, the grounds of the General Hos- 
 pital, and also the blocks lying between Bedard, Parent, 
 and St. Valier streets, to the easterly end of Massue street, 
 which it follows to the intersection of Bayard street, where 
 it enters Ste. Gertrude street (a prolongation of Massue 
 street) which it follows to the western limits of St. Sau- 
 reur. Thence it follows up the valley, upon the south side 
 of St. Charles River, a distance of about 7 miles in a direct 
 line, to a point near Ancient Lorette " &c., &c. 
 
 That portion of the line as above described, which lies 
 within the limits of the City of Quebec, and the Parish of 
 St. Sauveur, is indicated upon the accompanying maps by 
 a dotted line. 
 
 Since the date of the Report above referred to, facts have 
 come to my knowledge, with reference to this portion of 
 the line, which induce me to recommend its abandonment 
 by the Company The following are some of the reasons 
 that may be mentioned. 
 
 1st. The authorities of the Church of St. Sauveur, which 
 is located on Massue street, have earnestly protested 
 
 against its adoption, as interfering with their rights of 
 worship. 
 
 2nd. The long distance which the line would run through 
 tlie narrow streets, and thickly populated portions of the 
 City of Quebec and St. Sauveur, would render the right of 
 way v.ery expensiA-e : cause serious delay as well as danger, 
 in the passage of trains to and from the terminal Passenger 
 and Freight stations within the City ; and render it very 
 difficult and expensive to remove and dispose of the snow 
 during the winter months. 
 
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 ■ivd. There are no localities contiguous to this line, that 
 could be procured at a reasonable cost, which would aflbrd 
 the necessary area of ground required for the construction 
 ot shops and the standing room for cars. 
 
 4th. It is regarded as quite important, that the shops 
 required for the construction and repairs of machinery 
 rolling-stock. &c., should be located near the navin-abie' 
 water, so that the large supplies of iron, coal, timber,%nd 
 other heavy material required, may be delivered upon the 
 ground by vessels, without being subjected to char-os of 
 cartage extra handling &c. ; and as the law require's that 
 tnese shops shall be located " within the municipal limits 
 ot the City of Quebec, " this object cannot be accomplished 
 upon this hne, without passing branch lines throu-h sev- 
 eral Inter^ ening blocks and streets, which would" cause 
 great present expense, and future inconvenience. 
 
 It will be seen by an examination of the accompanying- 
 maps, that Prince Edward street is the only one within 
 the city hmits that affords the important facilities above 
 relerred to, w^hile at the same time it affords all the facilities 
 required in other respects for a convenient departure from 
 and approach to the terminal point near St. Paul's Market' 
 which is situated in St. Peter's ward, where the law re^ 
 quires the chief terminus of the Railway to be located. 
 
 A line has therefore been traced from St. Paul's Market 
 westward, which, after crossing the inland portion of Pal- 
 Hce Harbor, and then deflecting slightly to the southward 
 nifers Prince Edward street at a point situated between 
 l^rant and Craig streets, and continues thence alon- the 
 northerly boundary of Prince Edw^ard street to a point 
 marked " C " upon the map, situated about midway be- 
 tween Anne and Crown streets. 
 
4 engineer's eeports on location 
 
 I have indicatLHl upon the maps, by colors, and the let- 
 tors A, B and C, the grounds that will be required for right 
 of way, depot purposes, standing room for cars, work shops, 
 &c. ; and I have no hesitation in recommending this por- 
 tion of the line for the approval of the Board of Directors 
 iit once. 
 
 From point " C " westward, three separate lines have 
 been examined, each of which is laid down upon the map. 
 The most northerly line, marked " D " deflects slightly to 
 the southward, from point " C," crosses the St. Charles 
 lliver. near the Marine Hospital, re-crosses it at a point 
 about two miles further westward, and intersects the Main 
 Line as described in my Report of October 10, 1872, at the 
 point marked " II." 
 
 The middle line, marked " E," continues in Prince Ed- 
 ward street, to a point near Dorchester street, whence it 
 deflects slightly to the northward, passing along the mar- 
 o-in of the St. Charles River, in the rear of the General 
 Hospital, thence deflecting slightly to the southward, it 
 intersects the Main Line above referred to, at the point 
 marked " G." 
 
 The most southerly line marked " F," also continues in 
 Prince Edward street to a point near Dorchester street, 
 w^hence it deflects slightly to the southward, passing in 
 front of the General Hospital, upon a course which strikes, 
 the southerly side of St. Louis street, in the parish of St. 
 Sauveur, which street and direction it follows to an inter- 
 section with the Main Line above referred to, at the point 
 marked " i." 
 
 In considering the relative value of these respective lines 
 to the Company, with a view^ to the future operating of the 
 Bailway, it would be proper to refer to their relative length, 
 curvature, gradients, and the facilities afforded by each for 
 
WITHIN AND i\EAK THE CITY OF QUEBEC. 5 
 
 the passage of your trains, to and from your terminal pas- 
 senger and freight stations in the city. 
 
 The question of cost of construction would also, under 
 ordinary circumstances, enter into the comparison ; but as 
 this is to be borne by the Contractor, it will not be con- 
 sidered at this time, further than to state generally, that 
 taking the most southerly line marked " F," as a minimum^ 
 or standard of comparison, the construction of this middle 
 line, murked " E," will cost more by about $12,000, and the 
 construction of the northerly line, marked " D," will cost 
 more by about $33,000. 
 
 The question of the cost of the right of way for the res- 
 pective lines, may however under existing circumstances, 
 prove to be one in which the Railway Company has at 
 least a direct or contingent interest, and I therefore regret , 
 exceedingly that I am unable at the present time, to\y ' 
 before you any reliable information upon that branch of 
 the subject. I have no doubt however, that it may be safely 
 assumed, that the cost of right of way will be somewhat 
 cheaper upon the most northerly line, marked *' D, " than 
 upon the middle line, marked " E, " and that either of 
 these lines will be very much cheaper than the most 
 southerly line, marked •' F. " 
 
 I do not consider that there is a sufficient difference in 
 the respective lines, as regards length, curvature, and gra- 
 dients, upon which to base an argument in favor of either, 
 that should have any considerable influence in the deci- 
 sion of the question as to its adoption or rejection ; and I 
 will therefore assume that they are substantially equal in 
 these respects, for all practical purposes. 
 
 The principal, if not controlling consideration which in 
 my opinion should influence the minds of the Directors in 
 deciding upon the location of this portion of the line, is 
 
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 tho facility as well as safety with which passenger and 
 IVeig-ht trains can be allowed to pass for all time, to and 
 from the terminal stations in the City. 
 
 In this respect there can l)e no donbt that the most 
 southerly line, marked " F, " will be found much more 
 l>jectionable than either of the others, for the reason that 
 it passos a much greater distance through and across 
 thickly populated streets in the parish of St. Sauveur ; 
 •md on that account all trains would be required to slacken 
 their speed over that portion of the line, thus creating 
 great delay in departing from, and arriving at the Depots 
 in the City of Quebec. It would also be found necessary 
 to station watchmen or guardians at all the street crossings, 
 in order to avoid accidents. Great difficulty would also bo 
 experienced during the winter months, in disposing of the 
 snow that would accumulate in the narrow streets through 
 which the Eailway would pass. The difficulties above 
 referred to would all be substantially avoided, so far as 
 the Parish of St. Sauveur is concerned, by the adoption of 
 either of th-e lines, marked " D " and " E, " for the reason 
 that they depart from the populated portion of the City at 
 a point much nearer the terminal stations that the line 
 marked " F. " 
 
 The principal objections that can be urged against the 
 most northerly line, marked " D, " are its greater present 
 cost of construction, and the two bridge crossings of the 
 River St. Charles, the lower one of which must necessarily 
 be a draw-bridge. 
 
 During the winter months the draw would, as a matter 
 of course, remain constantly closed ; but during the season 
 of navigation the business of the road might be subjected 
 to frequent and very annoying interruptions by reason of 
 the draw-bridge ; and during this time there would always 
 
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 WITHIN AND NEAIl THE CITY OF .IUEHEC. 7 
 
 be more or less daiig-ev to the trains IVom that source. Th. 
 cost of watching and maintainino' these l)rido-es would also 
 be a perpetual charge against the Company. 
 
 Inasmuch therefore as the middle line, marked " E " is 
 free from nearly all of the disadvantages above referred c . 
 as pertaining to the .southerly line, marked "F" and n n 
 possesses nearly all of th. practical advantages pertninin. 
 to the northerly line, mark(.d " D," without being subj-c 
 ted to the disadvantages of crossing and re-crossin<r ' . 
 River St. Charles, I ^vould respectfully recommend its .v.. 
 proval and adoption by the Board of Directors. 
 
 In making the above recommendation, I have assumed 
 that the right of way can be procured upon this line at 
 relatively as reasonable rates as it can be procured upon 
 either of the other lines ; and also, that the Municipal Au- 
 thorities of the City of Quebec and St. Sauveur. will o^rant 
 the free right to occupy the public streets along or across 
 which the Kail way is to pass. 
 
 Should that portion of the line first described, be adopted 
 
 extending from St. Paul's Market to point " C," it will be 
 
 necessary to obtain the assent of i.v proper authorities to 
 
 the appropriation of a portion of the Palace Harbor or slip 
 
 as indicated upon the map ; and should the line marked 
 
 h, be adopted, it will probably be necessary to obtain 
 
 the assent of the Dominion Government to the occupancy 
 
 of a small portion of the river St. Charles, in the rear of 
 
 the General Hospital. 
 
 The extent of grounds indicated upon the map as bein- 
 required for purposes of rightof way, depots, shops, siding^ 
 &c., IS as small or even smaller than, in my opinion, will be 
 iound absolutely necessary for the purposes of the Com- 
 pany, before the expiration of five years from the date of 
 opening the Railway for business. 
 
8 
 
 KNCINEKU'S KEinrnTS 0\ LOCATION. 
 
 In order to show you the extent ol" grounds that will be 
 required for turn-table, engine house, work shops, &c., 
 alone, at this end oi" the road, I hand you also a separate 
 map of the block at point " C," which has been indicated 
 for these purposes, with the general outline of such buil- 
 dings located thereon, as will be found necessary for the ac- 
 commodation of the road. 
 
 Kespectiully submitted, 
 
 Silas Seymour, 
 
 Engineer in Chief 
 
 J. B. Renaud, Esq , ' 
 
 Vice President of the 
 
 North Shore llailway Company, 
 
 Qttebec.