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OEOBOE BYBRSOlf . >"'• '^ V9l«Alv«. 1 The following remarks are made on the evidence given by you before th« Committee of the House of Commons, on the Civil Government of Canada, n 1828 If you think proper you can answer them : if you declme to reply, rour silence must be construed into an acquiescence of then: correct^ You assnme the population to be . ./. 'u \ ' And at page 322, of the minutes of evidence, you say that about one fifth part of that population is Methodists, or Wy^fW, Which leaves lf»0,00a, for other denominations. . , n j a «* •«. How you account for the whole 200,000, I shall endeavour to ascertain .om your evidence ; for if you are condemned, it shall be on your own shewing— out of your own mouth. _ .u * «t*u i\/r tu At pacre 217, you say, without any qualification whatever, that " the Metii- odists are the most numerous"— and you are a Methodist yourself. For ar- gument sake, take we this for granted,-it may possibly be so m tact . You are then asked, " What denomination is 7ic7,t to them (the Metbo- dists^n number?" to which you answer— " 1 think the different clashes of Presbyterians." Now, before 1 go any farther, to preserve order, I tak© what you term the most numerous. 1st. The Methodist? ''''.''„'.'.'• 4*^'"^* 2d. Next, " the diflcient classes of Presbyterians," givmg you fair play, say • * *i j 3d. Following this mode of interrogation, you are again asked, " What denomination do you conceive to be ?ie7t to them (the Pres- byterians) in number ?" you answer, " I think the Churrh of Eng- land, and the Baptists, are about equalin number, and next to tho Presbyterians." Now if we can ascertain the number ot Baptists, we shall come pretty nearly at what you would represent as being the number of the Church of England ; for you say they are about equal. Here then, there is not much of difficulty to shew what you would represent that number to be, although you do not speak it out in terms. I come at it in the following manner :— You say, with respect to Mr. Morrison's Chart, that, "much pams was taken to ascertain the correctness of its returns."— That Chart gives the Baptists 5740 : the Church of England then, according to your ac- count, " about equal," will give as her number, 4th. And for the Baptists, the same, ; j *z t^ 5th. Then, with respect to the Catholics, you are asked—' Do you conceive them to be very numerous?" You answer generally, > that, " in the Upper District there are a feio Townships of French Canadians,— Bind in the lower part, a Township of Btghland s Scotch, who are Roman Catholics"— you are further asked— "Are . there many Irish Catholics ?" you answer, " there are some few in the new Townships recently inhabited." Supposing them, however, to j be " next^' in the order assumed in your evidence, we shall have, ^.joq ; giving you fair play again, ,•-•„*.* ' ^?v 6th. For other sects and denominations, I take the followmg as ^^^ my guide, and as I mean, Mr, Ryerson, to make you speak for yourself, I ground it upon your own words. You are then asked, " how Mr. Mnrriaon's Chart was formed, and what means wer* taken to insure its correctness ?" You tell the Committee in reply, that, " much pains was taken to ascertain the correctness of tlie r»- 6,740. 6*740. * » » • »« ministers and other intelligent individuals'»~and above all »H«« t^l Chart y;aB published in Canada, where any errors LS nnt Zf,)^%.\^<^oyerf and exposed, bv those int^erested in he S Jf!i-:...^«^„tjr*^'"'/t'' »S^'^'"/''"th« compilation of whTch \ pams was taken," for the remaining denomniationa.- =»— Menonists and Tunke- """auons.— tion, at ing wit! ject." Take we then, that ♦* Char J' in'The comnilXn " r"*' u^'u I ^°" ''"^ " so much pains was takpn » fnr VL • ?°'"P"'^t»on of which reasona It gives usrirstsa^^^^^ "^"-"'"g denomniations.- " own evi 7th. Wesleyan Methodists, * 2»38a j and, tha 8th. But that it may not be said ihai I omit to give Voi c;edit fnr ^^ ^ ""TJll, any other that should be included in the reckoninf, let me refer vol ' Mr. Ryerson, o your " additional particulars," at page ^2 rS tive to the religious denominations of Upper Canada " Thet S. Th'?f' ; St. Episcopalians, 2d. Presbyterians k Metho! dis s, 4th. Baptists, 5th. auakers, 6th. Menonists, 7th Romn^ Cathohcs, and a few others, very ^ncon^WeraWrn number »?S tha enumeration I have already made, I have incited Jl^e whole of next" 'ithohcs, •'""' "" °""" """*'» ^^^^ 5,737. juur # Classes, except " Uuakers"— Of these the Chart of the tral Committee says nothing-Allowing them to be yourlast " r Fom'Lr^^^uS, ': ^"^" '': """^.^^; ^- ^-' - '^^" ^-e,' 9th. The rest, whom you describe as "a few othera LconRi'dprn lOth. To this I add one fifth of the whole populatioi taking '«oLr flflh part of the population in Canada do not belong to any relieious fZr'" ;r. V 7** '^^' } ^^^^^^^' '"^^" rank • • ; 1/our It one igious ir ac- - % — 8 tion, at the expense of 88,819 of our inhabitants, whom you reore-ent m. h^ ing without any fixed rehgious principles, or what is pcTh JpTas C "r ",^ you sink altogether m the account Can you suppose, MrRyerson thlt^ i Let me now offer you a few observations on some of the above sects com. jpanng your statements made in London, with those of others mad^beVor^^^^^ W^f'^r .^^ '^'' ^""^^ °^ ^''''^''^y '" UPP^'' Cnnak on the same ^uU ject, for by the management of the " Central Committee" the Farce hw been XcXv^gtetai^"' '' ^^"^^^^"^ '''- ^-' ^'^^' oth:^^!^.; ;^"^'_Jiist— I shall take the Roman Catholics :— IheRov. Angus McDonald, m his examination before the Com- IhereYri'"' '^ "'^^^' '" ^®^' ^""^^ *^^^ ^'^ ^«^"«™» n'yoo iy. ^°"'' account of them, giving you every allowance,' by extendine 5,738. I the number to its utmost possible limits that your "iexts" will ad- iffiit of— makes them about . The difference, and truly an amazing one, is *.'*'** * feecond-As to Presbyterians, Dr. Lee, in his report to the Gei- leral Assembly, from information received from the Colony, savs |ferent''cLw'u^ '''^''^'^^ *° ^^"^ ^'^"''"^ o/fifcc^/an^," (not "difl 40nno i J°"^'«^^°""t°^"tJiem«//,Jays, as I have befo're 'stated, giving ^^>^- P" •^^^'^J allowance m the power of numbers, consistent w th pre- 'vious evidence, . ^ 6,737. 42,000. 6,ooa 36,000. 150,000. 151,181. j 1 ac- ne of 39,999. ononnn . "^^^ ^i^crence between you and Dr. Lee, is . . , ,\ . HOOOI 200,000. to say nothing of the difference between you of « different classes » ' ' ini Ifti t ^ Z'"'"'^!- f ^'^^''"^ *° *''« ^'^"^-^l* of Scotland.'^ But, giviilg 151,181. ^ou both credit for speaking the truth, each of vour own s^cf, twf pckoning will form a curious item in the generalcalculatioa 48,819, 48,819, r re- //e says there are Presbyterians, .... liv\nnn YbM say there are Methodists, .'.'.'.*.* 4o'oOO; Which would make loiinnn ^'^' fuation''''*^^^ ''"'''"° "" ''^^^'^' *° ™^^^ "P y""'"' ^'*^"^**^ of t^« pop- h«n t.v?fii?' l.^* """'*, ^'^ placed 'to 'the'credi; of the account, h'ow'eve'r, 'as 'far' as^iTe hantwo fifths loncerned, that, while your estimate of the population is 200 OOO-^Dr L^ ly ounKintne Jw,uuu_one half of which number, from the same source of informafmn imittee before 1^0- ^ng! !) he states to be;' warmly attached to the Churl'T Scot! ^na , so that in your estimate of Presbyterians, you differ 110,001 and in Tr'i™ w- Z^ PoP»l^tio" yo» differ 100,000, (most atnazing ! ! !) ' '" ni't^H^; 'tT''^ *° "'" ^^Y""^' °^ ^"g'^"^ •• ^^^^ go>»g through your TmLrTnA X^^'u^l^^'^?^^ "'^h^* proportion do you conceive the embers of the Church of England bears to the whole population in Upp^r )-ou answer, "if is mpossthlc for me to sau," and for once'von make such a that evidence, re 216) "that Yo lived there te in the Dis- ^^r I rou are miihed mto a comer by being aBkcd— " Do you think they are a fif- teenth V' and to this you answer, *' It \& probable they do amount to that or perhapg one tenth ;" and you add what the question had nothing to do with—? "I fthould think one fitth do not belong to any rehrrious denomination." Now Mr. Ryerson, when you was pushed home by these questions you seem to have forgotten (or perhaps you were confused, that you said before, in your'- exammation, page 217) that " the Church of England and Bapthtn are about tquai in number." Now, Sir, about the Baptists, by your own shewing there can, as you wouUI have it beheved, be no doubt, for you say (same page) that Mr. Morrison's Chart gives a "/««" account of them, they (and* the Melhodists, as yon say,) keeping " accurate accounts" of all their socie- ties, were able to furnish " specific information ;" if then they, and the Churchi of England are as you say, " about equal," it would give to the Church off England about one fortieth part of the population, for Mr. Morrison's return | as " accurate account," and " specific information," from the Baptists, gives their number in his Chart at 5,740. So that, in one place you say, it is ''pro- bable" the Church of England may amouut to one fifteenth, (you add ♦* perhaps one tenth,") or ... , 13 qqq^ And in another place, where you say she is " about equal" with the Baptists, you make her proportion only about one fortieth, or 5,000. Making a difference between your two statements of . . . . 8,000, Will you pe pleased to explain which of the two you mean for the true one ; : but have a care that you do not get confused again. These, Sir, are amazing differences, but I must take the liberty of pointing out a few more to you. 'J'here is no end of them ; for what between thou- sands, and tens of thousands, and tenths, and fifteenths, and fortieths— there is a strange jumble of confusion ; and you will perhaps wonder that any one should have taken the trouble to unravel it ; but Cocker has always been « favourite with me.— I know that with a little trouble, and some patience, he can put all these things to rights, and when I hear a person say that two ancj two make four " according to Cocker," I recognize him as a man of fact anc^ figures. But to proceed— Let us see how you differ in your account of thf4 Church of England from the statements made by others, before the Commits tee of our House of Assembly. The following table will shew this, for th* Correctness of which I refer you to the celebrated report of the Committee or| the petition of Buckley Waters and others. | ANSWER to tht q^tetlion—" What fropoHion, in your opinion, do the Members of the Church of Englan in this Province bear to the whole PopxUalion?" Answered by — _, Of lit. VLyvntr^n Bstimate, "Equal to Baptists," 6'Mllsrence of etatemcnts,- E o 19 11,111 5,740 5,371 19 5,371 • fi 12 9,644 32! 20 4,260 can I? 19 1,111 5,740 6,371 § c "9 10 Cd 1 25 S,000 5,740 2.2fiO i? 6 33,333 5,740 or* Pi o 20 10,000 5,740 27,593 I 4,260 §^ 16 12,50 5,74 6,71 1 have not room for more — but here are indeed great differences, and if th Agur6 would the account make : suffice it to say, that, between yours, ar flie statements in the table — the highest is 27,000, and the lowest 2,000 son in^ link they are a fif- ainount to that, or' thing to do with — i •mination." Now, tions you seem to 1 before, in your- BaptiMs are about ur own shewing, or you say (same , fthcm, they (and'' of all their socie- y, and the Churchj to the Church oil Morrison's return,| he Baptists, gives ou say, it is "^ro- h, (you . . . 13,000, al" with h, or 5,000. . . . 8,000. I for the true one;: iberty of pointin^i at between thou-l d fortieths — thera nder that any on^ as always been }^ jome patience, hci say that two an(^ i man oifact anc , ur account of thfi fore the Commit-«f shew this, for th^ he Oomrnittee or| the Church of Englam The avowed object of all this invesfigation was to ehctt truth, but who will now say that it has been attained ? I do not wish to be understood as meaning to say that either yourself, or any of the gentlemen in the foregoing table, have wilfully stated what you knew to be untrue ; but this I do not hesitate to say, that you, one and nil, ventured opinions upon information, which, if you had given yourselves time to reflect, you must have discovered, was totally insutKcient to form so important a record. The calculations I have made shew this most clearly, and how very unsafe it is to depend upon " informa- tion," without being ourselves satisfied of its correctness, is amply proved from the case of Dr. Lee, who, relying on such sources has fallen into the most glaring errors, or /ather, has proclaimed to the world the most glaring errors, to call them by the mildest nnme, of persons (unknown) who, from their residence in Canada, can scarcely ofier any reasonable excuse for those errors. There are two sensible answers given to the question, which could not find a place in the tabic. Mr. Ralph — " I cannot say — I have never made such a calculation" Mr. Robinson — " I do not know, nor do I think any body else does." On this point, one of these gentlemen has been consistent — the other has not — which of the two I mean will be seen hereafter. The subject, now that there has been time for reflection, must be viewed by every candid mind as having been got up for party purposes, and the Re- port of the Committee on the petition of Buckley Waters and others, can be looked upon in no other light, than as having been the means of incurring a heavy expense to the Province, without answering m*y- good purpose its contents could only go to mislead the people — to mislead the British Govern- ment, and to injure particularly the Church of England, for it is not without e»rors with respect to others, an instance of which I think may be found in Mr. Morrison's Chart, where the Wesleyan Methodists are reckoned at 100 only. I might go on to point out a great many more inconsistencies in your evi- dence — a few of them 1 shall endeavour to compress into as brief limits as I can. jjS 6 33,333 5,740 or' IS o I 20 10,000 5,740 27,593 I 4,260 oa; ^ I 16 12,50 5,7 6,71 rences, and if th ;Ci3 __ ^A , Wilili. nil L7U tween yours, ar awest a,000 son You are asked, (at page 217) *' Did many Presbyterians sign the Peti- tion?" — You promptly reply " Yes," and by way of introducing an individu- al to the notice of the Committee, you add, " some of the principal signers are Presbyterians — the chairman of the Committee, (Central) Mr. Kctchunty is one of the leading Presbyterians in Upper Canada." There is something ridiculously ostentatious in this unnecessary addition in your reply to the question. Soon after (same page) you are told by the Committee — " It is stated in Mr. Morrison's Letter, that the Presbyterians refused to join the petitioners generally" — you answer, " by that part, who are members of the Church of Scotland, the petition was not generally signed." — Now, what you mean by " generally," I am at a loss clearly to understand — perhaps you can explain, and give us an abstract shewing to what particular denomination the 8000 signatures to that petition belonged — you will be able perhaps to inform us, by means of the " specific information" of the pains taking Secretary of I the Central Committee^ that it was " generally" signed by one denomination, and that, neither Presbyterians of "diflferent classes," nor "members of the Church of Scotland." Make what you will of it, Mr. Morrison and your- self are here at loggerheads. But with the next question, ihe cat comes out of the bag — " What do you attribute that to" (the Presbyterians of the r^K..-«u «r e*^^^i„.,j V.-X* :,.:.„;..,- :^ +i.-» ^^iu:^- t\ \ui ii/r^ r» for your answer — " They want to get half of the Clergy Reserves for them- ; selves !" Ingrate, that you must be : did not Mr. Morris, " one of the lead- ing" members of the Church of Scotland in Upper Canada, and in the Houm^ I ;;:?= •WWmB i I of Aewmbly, more and vote, that ihoy should all be sold (or general purpo- sea Tn:8 ,8 unkind of you, Mr. Ryerson, and looks an if you were suspi- cious of those among whose ranks you have been lighting— But vou add (and you very often rrmke additions not called for) -the largest proportioi; of Presbyterians in Upper Canada I believe signed the general petition."- Your sturdy Ye3» when first questioned on this part of the subject, after a • mile cross-examination, dwindled down into modest '' I Ulhrc '' And here again, when you speak of the " larger proportion of Presbyterians, it can- not pass unnoticed how completely you are at loggerheads with Dr. Lee — 1 he difterencc between you, can only be accounted for by the supposition, that he considers all Presbyterians as ineiubers of the Church of Hcotlind and that you do not consider members of the Church of Scotland as entitled to the appellation of Presbyteriana — odd enough I confess. When the crusade against the Clergy Reserves was firs"t undertaken, how admirably you seemed to pull together, but n6w that time has developed the plans of each, It is pretty evident that your ''friendship was but a name " and that though "generally" you are willing enough to pull down another church if you can, by any means, even by tiie most forced associations, you individually quarrel about the division of the spoil. i.X°"V*^''J®*;^"-^''"?y'^^'*"'''"^'''^*^ several religious denomtnations. 1 take It, bir, that you have misrepresented the Roman Catholics— you have confused " 1 resbyterians of different classes" and "mambais of the Church ot bcotland" m such a way as to mislead and perplex, rather than vindicate "T^o''q"q,«'']?'''^'^P'"®^?^''^ ^^"^ ^''"'*<^'^ °*' England-you have misroprescnt- ed b«,«19 of our population, by declaring them not attached to any religious denomination, or in almost heathenish darkness. These things will not be called vindication by any reasonable man. Mr. Morrison's Chart, you say, was compiled with much caro— one omis- sion which It makes is so remarkable, that I cannot ibibear mentioning it— he has not given a place in it to Roman Catholics; and with respect to tliem 1 will venture an opinion : that, as a body compared with any other singly, there is every reason to suppose, your assertions to the contrary notwithstan- ding, and Mr. Morrison's sinking them altogether, they are as numerous as any denomination— the Methodists not excepted. Had I been at your elbow m the Committee room when you was questioned as to this point, I would have reminded you of the thousands of Roman Catholics in the Eastern Dis- j!;*ct— the many in the Midland District (Kingston, with a large stone Church, and a large and respectable congregation)— the thousands again in the new Settlements in the Newcastle District— the manv in the Home Dis- trict—the large and respectable congregation at York, with a neat Church— the many m the Townships near York— and the Western District, whose population in many parts of it, is chiefly Roman Catholic ; besides the num- bers scattered in different parts of the country which I have not enumerated— And yet you tell the Committee that Mr. Morrison's Chart, got up under the supenntendance ofthe "Central Committee"— " presents a very complete and fair view of the number of ministers and ofthe different religious denom- inations in Upper Canada"—" very complete and fair"— let us see— of Epis- copalians It gives " no return"— Presbyterians " no return"— Kirk of Scot- land " no return" — and Roman Catholics not so much as mentioned even by name as a religious denomination. This is " very complete and fair" with a vengeance — perhaps you class the Roman Catholics, as another Mr. Ryerson has done, among the Heathen. Again, (at page 218) speaking of the Church of England, vou say in pos- itive terms— " I know the number to be very small." 1 might ask you how yon know this, that you take upon yourself to state it so positively. You ad- mit (at page 220) that they xa&j perhapB amount to one tenth— this on your own da ^'ou mil Agiii eeneral borrow where 1 mission Coinmii *♦ uumbi sfjnumeri lorernmeji X. Counci lurveynr leceivcr CJi .ttomey (I lolicilor Gi ictjutnnt nipoctor G ^gislativo LBSCmbly C Of th and in ' ou evid ou do, 'he fact er" of I'ero not (hurch, een " by thi ssed ; j You Si Bie test c issertion: ubis time dily one In the 1 '1 Resolve Province K)rrowed ipminatio lesolutio; ^gland? ad at Cai aincy you f can yoi iriously j ineMr. Ited — " fEnglanc |nnot say rAnd yQ\ made i as reso le, his ise he h ing mat smnly re ar general purpo- you were suspi- — But you add, rgcst proportion L'rul petition." — 3 Hubjoct, alter a ;i'c." And here jyterlans, it can- vith Dr. Lee. — the supposition, ch of Scotland, Lland as entitled mdertnken, how s developed the s Imt a name," I down another ssociations, you own data would give 20,000-now what your ideas of '• very malF mav b^ ^'ou must explain. •/^'y wia« may d<% Again you say (page 218)—" the Congregations CChurch of Rna1nn^^ - generally renj .mail (very sm^l again-i favourite eVpSntl^^^^^^^ borrowed one, as I shall show by and bv^ " exrpot n tfJ "r" rV . where there are anu.6er of Go/emmen[^officTsT H e%fu" make a^'n'Sl n>.ss,on that the York congregation is large; but then, youC.W have the Committee believe that the reason of its beinc larrro is ih„f t 1 i ? *» number of Government offieers."^What s t^^^fa^t^^^^^^ ^^* Enumeration of the Public Offices, and eontrattSf can :~ ""^ Epiieop. Prtt. R. Cath foTernment Off.co, '2 i i :x. Council " 4 lurveynr Oen. " A leceivcr Oen. " 3 1 ^ttomey Ooneral, | Q g lolicilor Gcnpi-al, 1 ictjulnnt Ocncral, 2 nipoctor General's Office, 1 3 «g;i»lative Council office, 2 jscmbly Office, i q denomtnations. olics — you have 3 of the Church r than vindicate misropresent- to any religious ngs will not be !aro— one omis- mentioning it — respect to them y other singly, try notwithstan- 18 numerous as n at your elbow i point, I would le Eastern Dis- a large stone sands again in the Home Dis- neat Church — District, whose ;sides the num- t enumerated — ot up under the very complete jligious denom- s see — of Epis- -Kirk of Scot- itioned even by laps you class g the Heathen, rou say in pos- ; ask you /low ely. You ad- — this on your Metk 1 2 Oautte office, Secretary'! Office, JuUgee, Councillore, Clerk of tb« Petce, Register, Innpector, SberiO; Epitop. Pri$. R. Cath. 1 n y\ I Utth. s tn^^in'^Zrlf Tnd'',^^ ^^ Episcopalians, who attend the Church V Eng- and m York, and surely you do not call this "a number" in the sense whirh 7^Jf tly use the term, to account for the congregation beinr/«L^!^,T Jie fact therefore is, that the congregation at York is large, and tha the "num er" of Government officers, who from your representatln "f this calculatTn ;ere not made, might have passed for a host, large enough of itself to fi^^^^^ ihurch amounts to the enormous total of 34! Oh;Z JRvLon wha t ^Ty t rStrtu"cl:-7"^'"KV^^^^ ^'^^ bT th^ST/trrm a s iiZ'of ^Z^"^?" stand with^you when your assertions are brought to Je.olutorj .~IZoyjty^l the comm.,teo~" It appears that they (the fcEland'"_.Y„^," I T,u ■ ^'P''' '' ""^ =" member of the Church of S af rnmP 1 J ,'fT ''' '^ * ""cmber oflhe Church of Enslnnd educa- tocvvor»" ^^'. ""'' ' '•";'>™ " •"™'>«'- of Lincoln's Inn"_lhere' I cm lAnrl vY/ uu^ ''f''''^^ """"^^ «"ch a calculation" ! ! ' wer . i idmad^el'ucta'catn?n"r*'''\°r^''°\^^' R°'ph admits that he"„^t,^» Pas reL veS acooSlTk^M^^ ^^^^^' *h^*'* '^^ resolved, and le. his ".lS>t"-^'.*^^^ In the one »se he had"" ;,;Lr 3/' """""u"' ^? ^^ ^^'^^'^^^ S^^'^g ^"7 opinion, be- ingmade "sXa^dcull'^^^^ and inthe ithe'r, -n^.er^' ^n^iy recorders th e pr^Se'^l^jr.^ 1-*^T«« °f /"^ ^ be « I' f I ll'H 9 I promised to point out to you a gentleman who had not been consiBten* <»n this subjccL I have done ho. You introduce (page 219) tl o Alien QuoBtion Into your evidence. An i have been drawn to mention Mr. Rolph^t name, and am asking you for »x^ planationa on some points in which he ie concerned, perha|)H yo>i can ex) idti to me who it is that Mr. Horton, under •>•' '-retary of the Colonies, allude:^ to when he Bay«, (page 306) — " with respect tj the conduct of the Colonial ('< parfment, it i$ ne.cesftary to mention^ that these ^'.structinnn (on the AUen Q tion) which Lord Bathurst tent out to the Colony, for the panaing of a iv Bill, and which excited diasatiafaciion, wkre reoulaiioiVS which had ue- CEIVRn THE APPROBATION OF A MKMBER OF THE LKOISLATURE, who waa nVCr in this country, more or leaa in the character of an aoent for the Priv'tu-f., liith reapec' to certain qrievancea complained of^^ Rumour will have it, 'hu " a member of the Church of England, educated at Cambridge, and ) \n lieve a member of Lincoln's Inn," is the person alluded to hy Mr. Horton, as the " member of the Legislature" and ♦' Agent" who approved of " J? ',^'» lationa" in London, which he disapproved of elsewhere. There appears tu have been some collision between the members of the Legislature and the " Agent ;" but perhaps it is hardly fair to call upon you to give exi)IanftUon of the inconsistencies* of others, when so many of your own have been poin- ted out which require to be answered. Mr. Rolph will doubtless see th«f< remarks, and can, if he pleases, answer for himself. 1 you. Sir, are able to explain away what I hav'- said on your ev: dence, or to contradict the remarks I have made upon H by any thing lt]i( proof, you have an opportunity of doing so. That eviiience now standi naked and exposed to the view of ev^ry man — if you decline Huying am thii.g, do not indulge yourself with the idea, that your silence will be conntni ed into a dignity which will not condescend to a reply. You must alam convicted of mconsistencies the most glaring and absurd. CAIiCriiATOH. Dec. 1829. •. FlKOUiOM, PRINrXR....G0KX BAfcAMCK OFFICE, HAMILTON, .U. C. / V. t y jcen consiBten' 8 yo>i can ex| i.tin -lonies, alludes to f the Colonial ('< n\ the AlienQu H massing of n tv SB WHICH HAD ttF- JRE, who was iiVPr for the Friv'ii.cf.^ will have it, thin, bridge, and j I/t- hy Mr. Hort'iii, }rovcd of " jR Vi'* There appoats tu 3gislature and the give ex])IunRUon n have been poin- >ubtless see thi said on your ©vi ; by any thing ltli< ience now staodi ecline niiying «n' ;e will be coantni You must «tan( CriiATOIl. TOW, .U. C. •I IX I