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COPY OF CORRESrONDENCE
ON THE
SUBJECT OF THE STEAM SERVICE
BETWEEN
LIVERPOOL AND CANADA.
LivEaroot, 4th December, 1854.
Sib,— I had the pleasure of writing to you on llie 28th ultimo, on the subject of the Steam
Navigation with Ciiiiuda, oxprossiug tlie auxicty of the Cauadian Steam Navigation Company
to be informed of the dccisioa of the Government as to their claim for past subsidy, and their
intentions as to tlie future.
At tliat Lime I was under the impression that the Company would be una,ble to find any on«
personally to represent their views and nogociatc arrangements in this important businesB.
Since then, liowever, they have induced Mr. Lamout to undertake the voyage, and he will pre-
sent this letter to you.
Mr. Lamout is in full possession of all detailed information respecting the past service, but
he is also fully aware of the views entertained by the Company, both as to terms and as ti)
their views of the eilificnt working of the Line. He is not empowered finally to eonclude a
•outr-aet with the Government, but he will be ready to afford any information in his power to
give, and tlioy feel persuaded his presence and exertions will greatly facilitate and materially
shorten the pencUng negociationa on the subject.
Mr. Luniont is so well aware of the views of the Company, that I cannot feel any doubt
that what lie feels authorized to concur in will recieve the ultimate sauotion of tha Cauadian
Stjam Navigation Company.
I remain,
Faithfully ycura,
EDWARD CROPPEB.
Hon. Sir Allan MacNab.
QoiBEC, 13th January, 1856.
Sru,— I have the honor of informing you that I have come out to Canada on behalf of th«
Canadian Steam Niivigatiou Company, for the purpose of settling accounts with the Govern-
ment for the past service, and of ascertaining whether they are disposed to aduiit of Bomt
modifications of the termn of the Contract for the future.
May I solicit the favor of an interview with you at the earliest moment that your other iBt-
portant avocations will admit, as I am anxious to return to England.
I have the honor to be,
Your most obedient servant,
ROBERT LAMOUT.
To the Hon. Jean Chabot,
Commissioner of Public Workst
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1'UDI.IO 'WoEKfl,
Quebec, 17th Jiiuuiiry, 18B6.
Sib— I am directed to Roknoxvledsje the receipt of your letter jf the thirteenth instant,
r«portin.' your arrival fr.-in Hn-hu.d. for tho purposo of ,.rrnnt,'.n- for payii-..'nt., .to., on tlio
,mVt(.f thoCanmlia.i Strain Navigation Company, an.l to .nloiin you tl.al, your .■omimuuca-
lion shall bo, laid before the Chief Coinmis.iouor of I'uMic Works ou his return to Ciueljcc.
I have the honor to ho, Sir,
Vour obcdieut servant,
THOMAS A. BEGLY,
yecrotary.
Robsrt Lament, Esq.,
Swordi' Hotel
Swonn's HoTFr,,
Quebec, 23rd January, 1855.
To the Honblo., Joan Chahnt,
Chief Commissioner of rublic Works,
Sm,— I have already had the honor of informing you, that I liave come to Canada, ex-
pressly on the subject of the contract, establishing steam communication between this Country
and JMii'laud. , _ . . i -^ ^ ii n *
1 desire to settle accounts fi.r past porvioes, and likewise to subnnt to the Oovernment.
certain niudificatious of tiiu contract, lor thc^ future,whieh experience has shewn to be necessary
f*r the more eifieient jierfornianco of 1 ho service. . . „ ,. ,, . t , i i «
Incmnexion with the first objcrt of my mission, it is fitting that I should offer sonio
observations upon the manner in which th.' service has been performed hitherto, a course which
is rendered noicssary by the Ropoit, on the subject, datod June, 1854, which your Jionourablo
Boad presented to His Excellency, the (iovcrnor General, to be laid before the two Houses of
the Leuisiature. . . , . . t • ^i n j. t
Before advertin-^ to the charges of m.n-fulfilmcnt of contract contmncd in the Report, 1
take leave to offer a"few preliminary oxi.laiiations, and to mention, that the fact has been
overlooked, that, although the contract bears date Awju^i 1852, it was not until March 1853,
that it was completed, and received in England, that is only two months prior to tlie data
nientiouod lluTein, lor the eoniniencemeut of a monthly service to the St Lawr.Mice. ino
reasons uf this -Iclay, AS'ore, that it, was provided, that it should Ijc rati tied by th,. Canadian
Parliament, which was not accomplished until November, and, it was also provided, tliat the
Atlantic and St. Lawrence, and St. Lawrence and Atlantic. Railway Companies, as well as the
City of Portland should confirm tluir p.iitiuns of the eontraet, before it would bo considered
con.pletc, and this ratification, by the Railway Companies, probably could not be accomplish-
ed booner. , . , , , i -n i r
Notwithstanding the short notice of only two months, instead of twelve,— notwithstantling,
that the City of Portland, had not, and has not to this day, ratified its portion of the contract,
— notwithstanding^, that, dunn,\ the (imc tines lost.ii demand for Steam Vessels, and eouscqucnt
rise of price, occurred in Great Britain, which had the eifeet of rendering it almost impossible
to make new contracts with builders, for ves&els to be finished within 18 to 24 mouths,— and
notwithstanding, that, mainly in consequence of the determined and unremitting opposition of
the largely subsidized companies in possession of the Atlantic tr.ade, the Board ol Iradein
London most unexpectedly refused the Contractors and those associated with them, a Charter
of Incorporation for the purposes of their contract:— 1 repeat, that, notwithstanding the
delav atinovfluee, altered circumstances of the business, and, at that time, unprecedented re-
fusal of a charter, for such a purpose, bv the Board of Trade, the contractors gave unmistaka-
ble evidence of their sincerity and deteriiiination to carry out the provisional service of 1853,
bv P.ctually makiu", to the St. Lawrence, five out of the seven coutcmiilated monllily trips,
with the best vessels that it -was jMissible to procure, the service, be it remarked, having been
carried out in the face of foreknown and foreseen heavy loss, and it will be remembered that
the " Lady E<'linton," iluring that time, performed two of the shortest passages, across the At-
lantic, on'reeord, and that the full uumber of winter trips to Portland were made during tho
seasons of 1853-4. , . ,• •,-, ,1 n
The class of vessels employed was in accordance with the understanding with the Govern-
ment and I may mention, larger than the steamers that carried on the mad service between
Greit Britain and the Cape of Good Hope, for a considerable time, at the commeneenient. _
The extraordinary sudden demand for steam vessels, and the unfortunate loss ot time just
referred to that occurred between the contractor's tender and its acceptance and completion,
a period of nine months, would of themselves form a reasouable excuse, had no service been
performed in 1853. And it is scarcely too much to say, that, but for the fact of the contrac-
tors being the owners of the " Cleopatra," and having soon afterwards, from fortunate acci-
dental circumstances, found au opportunity of purchasing two other new vessels, the " Charity
IR66.
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farch 1853,
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well as the
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of Trade in
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anding the
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mlhly trips,
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?ross the At-
e during th«
the Govern-
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icenient.
i of time just
. completion,
service been
the contrac-
rtunute acci-
bio" Charity*
and " Dltawa," (almoflt the only largo Rnitnblo vessels in the country) it would have boon im-
possible to carry out the whole of the sei'vice, even last Heason, from the fact that biulderi
Would not inidertake to have new vessels ready in time.
To give Biime idea "f the numerous inid iuavy |)riliminary expenses incidental to tho cs-
tnblidniicnt of such a trade, and the loss that iiivaiiably falls on the pioneers, it may be stated
that the (icivennncnt subsidy for 18ri;i will not cnvor the amount expended by the Cdiilraetori
tluring that year, by many thousand pounds sterling.^
'i'he unexpected and unusual action of tho Ihitish Legislature, (already explained,) pre-
vented for sonii! time tho contractors from associating their friends together tuforni a company
for the purposes df thi.- contract, as originally intended. Meantime tlie contractors ^indLvidu-
nlly made great exertions for the execution of the service, and had investtd capital and in-
curred respoiisiliililics amounting to not less than i'lf)0,tiiiO sterling before the j)rcsent Com-
pany, called " Tl\e Canadian Steam Navigation Conijiany" was organized. This Company,
composed id' some of the wealthicit men in Hngland.took over the steamers purchased by the
contractors, made contracts for new ones, carried out the service of 1854, and are ])rcpared
to place the servii'c on tlic most efficient footing, if Buituble encouragement is given by the
Government of Canada.
With reference to tho charges of non-fulfilment of contract, during 1851, mentioned in
the lleport of your honoiable Commsssiop, it must be stated, as to the first, viz; The late ar-
rival of tho " Charity" and '• Cleopatra" in tho St. Lawrence, on the opening i>f tlie navigation,
and the non-arrival of the " Ottawa," that these untoward events (by which I may rjmark
the Canadian Steam Navigation Company lost a largo sum of money) were occasioned by nat-
ural causes, over ii'liith tfix C<»ii/i(ii>}j hnd vo coiitral, and are consequently excepted in tlu' eon-
tkraet. In two of thu cases, conuuon prudence and humanity dictated the com'se adopted by
the officers in charge, viz: to huul the passengers at rortland, from which place they were
conveyed, at shi])'s expense, to their respective destinations. That tho late and iion-ai'rival of
the vessels were not events owing to any deticieney in ships or officers was sutliciontly proved
by their subsequent performances. The next, mil perhajis principal a]iparcnt ground of com-
plaint, relat<s to tho size and ]iowcr of the vessels eniphiyed during IS.")-!, which were condi-
tioned to be each of ll'OO tons and 300 horsepower. On the subject of measurement of vcsseli
there has always existed discussion among practical and scientific men. It is considered, how-
ever, that the fairest, as well as tho most accurate mode of measurement of steam ships, is that
now in use by tlr Lords of tho Admiralty <d' Knglnnd, and by the (iovcrnment of France,
viz: to take the gross register tonnage as tlit^ measure of capacity. After survey by the Ad-
miralty Agent, tho three vcsesls jireviously alluded to, have, since the navigation of the St.
Lawicnco wi.s shut, been chartered by the I'.nglish Government at a certain rate per ton, per
month, on the following tonnage measurement, viz : —
" Cleopatra" 14f)7 Tons.
"Ottawa" 1'240 "
"Charity" 1243 "
1 may mention, howevei", that by the old law, these vessels might measure 100 a 150 tons
less. The horse power of the vessels is eousiilerably above that named in the contract. Th«
" Charity ' stated in the Report as of 4C 'orso power, having the least jiowor of the three.
With regard to the employment of the '-Sai'ali Sands" in the service' it has been a matter
of necessity, for, as already staled, it was impossible to efTect contracts for new vessels, to b«
readv in time. The Comjiany, as already mentioned, instead of waiting for new vessels, pur-
chased the " Charity," " Ottawa" and " Cleopatra," and chartered the 'vSar.-ih Sands," the only
other largo vessel that cotdd be procured in (Jreat Britain. Now that the new vessels ar«
about ready, of course tho "Sarah Sands" will not be longer required
It is not out of place here, to mention that the new vessels nearly completed, for the ser-
vice, (the first of which will be launched about this time, and the next about a mouth after,)
are all of much larger size and power than that specitied in the contract, and calculated to
attain a high rate of speed, and to ensure ample accommodation and comfort to passengers.
While it is admitted that some of the terms of the contract have not been carried out,
from being fouml impracticahle, and that others have not been performed to the letter, ' m
natural causes, in the past rather exceptional season, and from want of previous oxperietn i ,
the luivigation by steam vessels of tho St. Lawrence, it is respectfully contended, and will b;
confirmed by those practically acquainteil with such matters, that, under the difficulties inci-
dental to all new and untried enterprises of a similar character, enhanced in this instance by
the peculiarities of sea, river aed lake navigation, the entire absence of wharf accommodation
at Quebec, and the difficulty of obtaining barges when there was not depth of water to per-
mit of tho steamers proc.'diug to Montreal, I say that I respectfully contend that no similar
eervico was ever better performed at starting.
In concluding my remarks on the past, I should not bo doing my duty to my constituents,
did I not claim for them the credit due for tho entire satisfaction that has been given to all first
and second class cabin p.isscngors, and particularly to emigrants, for the treatment and accom-
modation they have always received on board tho Company's ships. For the excellent pas-
gages made to the St. Lawrence after the date of your honorable Commissioners Report, and for
tiio (lisoijiline of tlio ships mid rmpionoy of tlio offlcrrgnnd crows, in ^vhiMi rcspret flic dm
piHiy'ijslii|H aio iicpI (<ii:'|iiissi(l liy iii.y (VHiipsinililf voiijirU ullont ; mul liniilly, in cxi»i'i'ssiii;,'niv
regift nt llic toiiorof your lioiioniljlc ruiuiiiirtsi.inV H<'|iHi't, piriiiit mo, will) laiu'h licrorcnoi',
f.(» observe, lliiit Could you T'cidizf the hcjicn of jiiiiclioal ditlicultics Uifit Hurrouiid tlir coin-
incncoinont of eucli uiulortnkiiif,'-', vliioh iiolliin;^ Inil iicliiiil woritiiij; ciin domonKtnitf, and with
whftt <'noriiio\Hly iiiorfiisf 1 t'on-c tlioso luivi' H|irniled duiiiii^ tlu' \nM your, in connrnut'ni'o of
the war, mid if tho fai'ts oouticcled with tlic farly hir-toiy df every Hiiiiiiar undt'itakiuL,' were
thought of Avhcn consiiiorin;^ this suhjeot, I am Hiire tho toiio of your Ilopiirl woidd not liavc
boon that of niiiiuto critici!<in and bluino, but, on the contrary, tliut witli olio hainl you Would
hiivo thi'own forboanitioo and cousiderution over the jiast, and with the other held out hope
and «ncouragonio!it for the future.
Tho olwor vat ions I liavo iiiado, will I trust, be considered m establisliin:? satisfactorily,
that the contraolorshavo performed the servioeas well, uruler tho oirouin.-*t!)iioes, as can bo rea
•ouably expootcd, and 1 have to add, that an early settlement of thesub.'<idy will ennviuoo my
friends of the f,'ood faith and disposition of tlo' (JovornmoMt, and u'ivo them tncoiirrtjoniont for
the fnture. lli-garding which I now boi; to lay before you tho fullowing rcpro.'<eutation :
Tho contraet for a line of Ocean JSteaiuei'.s between Livorpocil and Quebec, made by th*
<«ovcrnmcnt of Canada, was thoreiultof apublieeompetition, alter adverlisemoni for teuiler^i.
It was considered at tho time as u preliminary step towards the eslablishnieut, at a futur«
pariod, of a more coinprehousive sohcine of steam communioation with Kngland, and the Pro-
vincial I'arliament, on the application of the contractors, passed an Act or Charter of Incor
poratiou for a Comiiany, with tho view of furlhorini< this important object.
Measures arc being taken at this moment to avail of this Charter, which, for certain rea-
Hous, connectoil with tho state of English Law, on the subject, has not yet been acted upon, but n
number of pi ivatc individuals, having coufidcnco in the fair and liberal (•onsideration of tho
Uunadian tlovei'timont, in the growing importance of tho Colonial trade, and having in view
the important bearing that the permanency of a contract for on effective steam service would
have upon the interests of 'ho Colony, have invested <'apital to tiic amount of nearly £400,000
iiterling in vessels, most of ilieni very much larger and more powerful than those coutem])late(l
in the contract, either already afloat or now ready for launching.
It is a fact in the history of similar undertakings, that \m contract for a Postal Steam Ser-
vice has ever been entered into by Ihe Biitish (rovernment that has not been altered ami mo-
dified soon after its commencement, and much oon^idcration has always been accorded to con
tractors, until actual e.xiierieucc has made them acquainted with the particular service re-
quired.
The contrnctorswith the CnDndian Government are, therefore, only following what seems
the necessary or natural law of such matters, in submitting for the consideration of the (lov-
ernmoiit the desirableness and necessity of remodelling Ihe present contract, in order to secure
the full benefit to the country that it is calculated to command.
In all similar contracts a provision is made for increased subsidy, should relative circum-
•tances change so much as in reason to reipiire additional assistance. For instance, in tho last
contract with the Cunar J Company, there is a clause : " That an additional allowance within
"certain limits is to be made to the Contractors, in the event of an increase in tho rate of
" Insurauco, of steam vessels, or in the freight or insurance of coals, as compared with the
' rates payable at the date of contract, if proved to the satisfaction of the Lords Commissioner*
'' of the Admiralty."
' In the contract with the Canadian Government, there is, unfortunately, no such condition,
but the contractors resjiectfully submit for the favourable consideration of the Government,
the following drawbacks or disadvantages that practical experience has shown than to attach
to this service.
I. Tho peculiarity of the St. La^vTence, in its sen, river and lake navigation, with the un-
eertainty of tho Seasons, and the jiaucity of lights on the Straits, have the effect of enhancing
the premium of Insurance on vessels trading to the St. Lawrence to a serious extent. On the
projierty in shipping and coals, i'C, that the Canadian Steam Navigation Company will have
at risk next season, — the extra Premium thus occasioned, will amount to no less a sum than
£10,000, sterling per annum, and siuoe the tlate of tho contract, a very largo rise has taken
place, not only in tho first cost of Steam Shi[)s, but in the Sailing Expenses — in wages, in the
price of Coals, Oil, Tallow, Provisions, and all descriptions of Stores.
II. The Cuiiard Company subsidized by the liriti.'^h Government to the amount of £3,B33
10s per voyage, orlls li^ per mile, and the Collin's Company, subsidized by the American
Government, to the amount of £0538 10s ])or voyage, or 22s per mile, reduced their rates of
freight and passage, to compete with the " Canadian Steam Navigation Company," and having
a less hazardous voyage, and consequent lower rate of Premium of Insurance on both vessels
and cargo, are too powerful opponents for the Canadian Steam Navigation Company, who only
receive, under the contract, an allowance of £1333, sterling per voyage, o. 48 6d per mile.
This fact ia very justly and clearly recognized by the Commissioners of Public Work's lleport
on the Ocean Steamers, 1853-4.
III. There is an entire absence of Wharf and Warehouse accommodation atQuebec, invol-
ring the exposure and damage to cargo, at ship's risk, as well as occasioning many other prac-
tical iucouvenieuees, attended with a heavy money loss.
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In iVKanl to ,111 oxt.'n.M„ii .,f the present prrvico," nn r.vonim<n,Ir,l in your Rpnort wliilo I
])I'CI1,'ITSS.
I tni.-(t tJiiit tJi,,{}ovcniinont will 1,.. c.nvino.Ml l.y the Btatomoiits ii.,w s.il,init,t-.l to you.
that for Mil oIi,.|w>t Htcam .orvieo. a larf,'or M.hsidy i. roquir.,!, an.l I Imvo oo.nc out iVom
Lnfjlaud lor the .xpr,... purnoso of nurtiu^^ th. Cana.liflu (iovmuM-nt, iu a .pirit of f. rLT
ufr.lvSiu^"'".tr;.'.r' '" '^ """" """■' ^"'"l""'»*'^'-'b- uniu.portaut mociilicatiuus of
If the (iovoruniontia prepared to ndmit u{ Midi modifications, I shall bo l.apny to speci-
fy tlic piu'tioulars, and when tliev should takr iilac'. "1 1 ^ to ppLl..
Oov.I.nLir,'.'r'i/''' f"^';""- "''>■<'"'• ,'!"'>"'i"i'.'{r the pr...eul Communiention to thoMemhorH of
Govcin.noi.t »1 their and your .arlu.^t po.sil,!.. eouveni.noe, as Iho advanced period <,f the
seu.-on, and '"iMnei^s eontiideration, render an iinniediatc uirancron " •■'•■
matters connected with the subject, of prcssins,' necessity.
I have the honor to be,
Your most obedient servant,
nient of and deuiBJou on, all
ROBERT LAMONT.
SwoEDs' Hotel,
gjp Qdedkc, 26th Jany., 1865
„f f u .• ^»,''S''f^'!jiponato"i'nit:olinQ:yesterdav morning, I now hand vou inclosed
Li';o JS^Ii^^'c-uZii --"^-'^-- ^-•-^' - ^'- --t-t for tho^Ocean SteaSbef;::'
Coinmnv'i !'.!"(« "" "1""'^^*^ '' v' "■"' ''^''''' ''^""^' ^'^''^ P'-oof of the fact that the j.re.ent
Coiipai ^, the tuuadian feteam iNari-ation Coinp.iuy" was formed for the pur,)o.es of that
•onlraet, m aeeordanee wiUi the ..rigiual intention f,f the Contractor., biU the et er of E Iwa d
CropiKT, K.(i., Acting t^hairman of the Company, to Sir Allan AIcN^b, and to meXi of the
lute overnment ehould I think render furlher proof, on thi. point, um.eeesHury "'"
K'tenng to the inclosures. I need only state iu additi,-u to what I wrote you yeoterdav
tha the Company has learned by experience, that the modification, nske.l. are nel.es.: Jy for tYe*
prope working o the me, and are satisfic.l that to insure a permanent and effi«Teu?8ervicc
the lull amouut ot subsidy now asked, is absolutely uecessarv. emweui vict,
I have the honor to be,
Sir,
Your obcdiei!
/ant,
Hon. Jean Chabot.
ROBERT LAMONT,
Sib,
Public Works,
Quebec, 3Uth January, 1864,
vin^o 1° ref'^r«nce to your note of the twenty-fifth instant, as well as to the severalinter-
views you have had with the Commissioners, on the subject of the Canada Steam NavL-ation
ever buing taken by the Uoverument m the matter, or any proposition being entertained bj
6
them n<i t(i Ihi' future, it Is nlisnhitclj nr(<r««nry that tliov ("IwniliUii^ofliciallv informotl wliethcr
it i» till' int. iitiuu "t'tho iHTsfliit Corif nictorn tn e.'irry 'Hit |li<' r<i|iiiri'ini'iit!i miii <'(iiiiiitii>ti-< nf llu'ir
contnict iiH it imw Hfa'i'U, op ntliorw inc. Kailv ninl cxplii'it intini, 'timi on tlii< pDint is thrrnoro
ro(iuiri'il iVdin tin' imlun' nf llm ('(inuiiiiiiii'ati"!i nf Mr. ('ici|iimt.' wIrtimh it is Hlatfil Ilia' tlio
piirtii'^ witli wliorn tin' ilovfi-nimtif liaij I'oiitr.icliij lii'Ini,' iiiiuliir' t.> carrv "Ut llnir contract liad
traiisfcii'( ij it to a i>rivati' ('oin|iaii_v, of wliidi lie i< the Cliiiimiaii. ami thai mich Coiiiiianv Iwul
ennsiclercil it ncoc-isary to take j'tcps for thiir legal dii-xolutiou, wLicli would-bu dfcclcid uhout
tho tweutyi'iglit of tL« prest'nt month.
I have the honor to bo,
Sir,
Your obt'dient icTTant,
R. Lainont, Esq., Ac, Ac.
THOMAS A. BKCLV,
fciuortjtary.
Sir,
SwoHDh' IIOTEI,,
QuEDEo, 3lHt Jauy., 186t.
1 harp the honor to noktiovlcdt,'^ rcccipl of your favor of the ni«t inst., bv which
you inform nic that you arc instructed to ac(|Maint me, tlial prior to atiy action whatever, being
tiikcu by tlu^ tiovornnicnl in the matter of my note of the '^Mi instant, and of the scvorid in-
terviews 1 have had with tlic Commissioners, or any j)roiio>ition beinf,' entertained livtlicm as
to t lie future, it ii abijolutcjy iicpcssary tliat the "(lovernmciit should In' oltieially inCiirmed
whether it is the intention ol'thc present ('i>ntraetors, to carry out the rciiuircmeiits" and condi-
tions of till) Contract, as it now standf«, oi' otherwise.
Ill reply, I be;,r bc},' leiivc to say that it is the objcot of my visit to Canada, to obtain a
•ottleiiieiit tor past services, iind if posnililc .some niodilicatious of our contract for the futm-e.
Nolhiiii;, in my conunuul.iitions with the (iovcrnnu'iit, can lead them to the conclusion tint wc
do not inten(| to fidtil our eontraet, and I conceive that I have just grounds of eom])laiiit, that
the question is put to me at all. The c.vccutiou of the cmitrai't is secured by a h<'avy ])i'nalty.
As to IJiat portion of your letter in whicli rcforciice is maile to Mr. Ciii|pper's remarks, a
more careful perusal of that j^'eutlcman's lei ter. cannot fail to eonvineeyou that voii have inad-
vertently misunderstood him. In siicakinj,' of tlie dissolution of tlio present partnership, ho
Bssi^'us as the reason and object, the obtaining' of a charter in Kii;,'land, or of an .\et of Incor-
poration of the Lc^'islature of this country, for the ])urposcs of our eontraet, and nowhere
speaks of an absolute dissolution, which miijht justify the (lucstion put
I think myself entitled to be made iieij
lustily till,' (lucstion put.
Jn a 8])iiit of Jnstiec, I think myself entitled to be made iieipiaintcd with the views of tho
Government, as well with reference to the jiajf, as the futui'c, and 1 beg respectfully to refer to
my uotc of the L'Cth iustant, aud to pray for an eurly reply.
I am, Sir,
Your most obedient servant.
Thomas A. Hegly, Esq.,
Secretary Public Works,
(iuebec.
KOB. LA MONT.
Bm,
*DiNr,i.E Bank,
LiVEnrooL, 28th November, 1854.
Althouijh personally unkno-wn to you. I take the liberty of addressiiit? you on behalf of
the Canadian Steam N'avi<,'ation Comj)aiiy (of which Company 1 am Deputy Chairman), in
order to asoertiiin, so far as you may ite dispos.^d to commuuieatc them, the Views and iuten-
tious of the Canadian (ioveriimeiit with reference to that Companv.
This (.'oiiipany has iierformcd Ifi voyages, uudcr a contract tcrauted by tho Canadian Go-
Ternnnnt in 18.')'2 to Messrs. lianioiit and JilcLarty, who were unable> to carry it out, aud early
iu the prescut year transferred it to the parties whom I represent.
Application has been made to the Governmant for the payment of tlio subsidy claimed
under the contract, but im part of it has yet been received.
The exertions made by the Company iu the purchase of the best vessels to be obtained (al-
thouf,di fallin;,' short in tonnaire 100 or 150 tons of the tonnage prescribed in the contract) — the
high prices tliey were compelled to pay for those vessels— the diflicultics and great e.\]ieuscs
the C(>m|)any incurred in conseijaenee of the very severe winter and the exisleiicc of ice in
the St. Lawrence later than usual, the low rates of fi'eitrht and pus.-^-age at which many of the
voyages were jierformed, in i-ompUince with the eontraet, have been brought under tlie notice
of some of the members of tlie late Cauiidian (Jovcrmucnt, and the Company has boeu led to
believe that under these circumstancrs the subsidy will not be withheld.
claimed
Sir,
SiiKN' T Imd th.' honor of nn interview wilii you
fiiiliicci iiiiiK.r of oiii iv.Tniitiori. Th.ic Koonieil li. 1...
flwotng' IfoTti.,
(iuKBBc, 6tli Fubiuuiy, 1856.
m Satui'iliiy. f linvn conniilorcd the
II ii.'f.ssity, in \our . !,tinmtion, for
my l.'...in,;.nK H,, a... H.r.ty to tr.nt uiti, th.- Uovoru,u<mt \u v.g^^^l tA\u-un»lMlnZ
«e v„.c« o. 11... Canu.lmr. Sfm,, N'avi.'ution romn„nv. TI.Ih onn on>v ariKc f n VuVj c?
ml ("'V.Tnnu.r.t wh, n now nnlmisf. for u »(.,,n. conwnuni.Mti, n will, KnR-
1. . -M .■ons..,|,,..ntly ,l„.t n,y firm i. tl.o only l,.,..l nuxiinn, for tl... H..ttl,.n,..Mt .u,l urran^o-
m nt of all n.,|ttor« ..onnoct.Ml uith it. Umtr ti,..o cin.„nmtau,v* I an. at a h.Ju> know
ri ,,MU.,,,.,h.t. „,.,,, .,,,,^,lt,„,|,,,,,^ J.,,, ,,„,„,„„,,i of «om.i of tho wealthiest
V t ",'"«•'""' ''"^ ''-'"" '^^T""'' f'"-. "'" l""T"^<^» "f ll'is oontrnct, a.,d while I l,av. o ot
w thei ' C ut t "''"°'""'^' '">' ''b'''^ "' l>^"^' feuiod uud oounidcred by the aovernment
mmk,.outn,etHfo.Mh.vela,.^,ev..H...l,.twoof whieh (each about 1800 tonn) will be tinishoa
bet a';on-7hl '"'•,"'" '"". ""';"' "'•■•""^""""!''« ^vhi,.i: they l.avo iu eonle,.!,.lalion th J w II
b inaeoidtiontoplueethestean. e„M.MU.nioation between thlH eonntry and Canada in a
Stutl s'of Amoriea ' coniparisou with tlittt cxiatiug betweou this country uud the United
contraet will be .v,,uned. Ihe g.^eat ioeieas,. in cverv ex|Mn.e attendin.' Stean. Na^-atioii
U^^'H^'rV 'n '""'.■:■'■;;••■ ';'■',.'"' :".tf"'-l"-^.'l"'4. »-! expense: of the navii^ i^
the St. Lawrenee together with the dilllnilties at this tin>o of ruiMJn:'' .so larL'o a cnintal comnel
U.c Gonipany. I,,.!',,,,, ihey pn,eeed fiathei', to aaeertain- '' ' ' ^
/,rv/.— Whethe.. the Government is jjrepared to pay for pa.st serviocs, and
extent""" '"""'"'''""'""*'* ''"''''''^^"'' *''" '""'"''*' ^^'^ ^"^ gninted, uud to what
w;th'!>IrM^'l,"!!f '" ^*r"" ^'''''"'^"!'}"" <;\""!'any as it at present c.vists, is a private Company
w.thont a charter, and eo,He.,,icntly withonl any limit a.s to liability. The parties concern eG
n e .t ^illcVr ' I l'/''' "'"""l'^'" '■''."'•'^■'; '" "''-^ """"^■•y- "'• "" '^^' "f the 'Canadian Uovoi
ei 1. ;. I n ' ''",7«'^«".tl";'" 1'- advantage of this lin.it ..f liability. In onlcr to eeeure
^u 'irt^^iuJeiiwun^iliir;:;;;::;: "' ''' ^^*^^'"^ ^--i-"^ '^ "— ^- '-^ ^'-> ^-a
tJnn,'''ni^''r'''*"'''' ''^ ^'l'" "'"""'"^, ^'t" I'l'essing importance to them to be informed of the inten-
wX ', '%*^'"^''''"'"';i't "'^ ':^r'''\''l^ tho .support tfiey are rea.ly to grant to snob a Con>pnny, as
w tb ut that su,,po,.t they w. 1 be eompelle.l to break up the Line, the common reel ,ts from
wJiich they are now fully satrslicd cannot for a l.-ng time p,-oduco any return to theoJneri.
Iheleg«lp,.ocee.bn,i;toetK.ctthe.bs.soIutionwill occupy six weeks or two months bv
^fs3\!'s:;^H '"'''1''^ '"''"''''"• 7'"'!''' '•^•''^^^ may bedi^
posed to .send them, which raa_y guide them a.s to the conrKc they will take
rn^.n '""''•'''■y the Comj.any IS at this moment unable to find anyone whom th.ey can send to
3?:ic ,v'7'' "'■;'''P"': ^ •■^"•••'."K« .^'^''^ "'""cr in Cnada. and'as eorresj.ond^ce incur. 8^
miR^ delay, I an desired to spccity the terms upon which thevwould bewilling (o re-organizo
i^^n.eni"'"%r- "7^' Tp %f"7''',t>y.8«''Vce between this"port and Quebec iu the «uiumer
ami between this port and Tortlaud during the winter. """^w
In the first place theyeould not be limited in tho rates of freight and passage, and al-
though they feel his is a matter of importanoe to them, the Govornt^ont will Fee ' that acJ.eek
veslx.lTtrCanada'" '' "'"'' '" ^"'"P^'titiou with the United States Line, and tho sailing
«nr,nJ,!'f f !'f f ' '''''",'"»'' ^'^ ^""l'' l'f>pe ou the average to exceed that rate, they could not
engage to perform a! ove 8} knots per hour. , j uu.
annum"" *'"'' I'''''^'"'""'"*^° "^ ^^'^ ^^"''ce they would require a subsidy of £50,000 p«r
«..„ / 7^'''"*' f 9eedingly that we cannot by a personal communication with the Canadian Got.
annnl;»°iv''° !"" I "" ^'^^^-^ "P'^''.tbe subjcct, but thc positiou of the Company and the re-
8ponsib.lit.es already mcurrcd require that we should como to au immediate decision as to o;u>
AULurvj colli B6(
Ibeg to apologize for the imperfect manner in which 1 have laid this matter before ycu'
i^ J begging au early cousidcratiou of the subject, ^
Sir A, M'jNab.
Bolieye me, faithfully yours,
EDWARD CROrPER.
8
It WHS only on >»y anivxl in this country at the end of Docombcr last that I asoei-talned
that tlio Ucpiutinont nt the Oovern.nont, over which vo» u,.w presi.lo, had r.norted unfavor
ably of the syrvicc jM.rformed „,, to the carl,, part .,f fast season. Thi. re,...rt u-hieh emanated
from Mr. K.llally the Assistant c;omm.9sinner, ,t may beeome my duty lo the inu.ortant inte-
rests 1 ri|ire.><enl, to answer and eharaeterise at some future time. '
The Cantraet serviee has been jjerformed for two yar.s durin- whieh time tlic Govern-
ment has made use of our boats without any e.un|.laint having been eonun.miealod to us, and
therefore the t^ntraetors ha, no reason to su|.,.ose tliat the Government did n-t nnpreCiatc
the great .■xertums uiaiU', and tlio h.;'ge amount of mnucv expended in earrviii- out the service
under unparallebd ditlieulties, and tiiat, to,., ,hirin^^a i>.-ri,„l „f un.xampled lkmu,.ial dorau-e-
neut, au,l I ,.annnt .ma<<,ue U to be ll,e s.t.ous iutenti,.n of the (i,.vernuu.nt to put an obstaele
to th,. payuuul ,, our dearly earned subsniy, or to objeet to any reasonable niodifieation of
our e,)utra('L lor tlu; tuture.
After the above e.xplunations you must of course sec that all questions of my authority to
aet are set at rest. •' •'
The importance of the trade, the adyance,l porio,! of the season, and the magnitude of
the mterests juvolved denumd that au immeduite decision be come t,) on the itart ,d the Go-
vernment. 111.' nuuicious arraugonu-nls necssary to s.^cure to the Colony the full benefit of
the servR.e n-'xt season, on the s..>ale contemplated by this Company, cannot ,.therwisc be ac-
complishe.l, nor wdl it be possilih'. if more time is lost, t,. complete plans for the establish-
ment ot a line ofpn.pe erstoandlrom the West,-for the eonvovanee of emigrants,-for wiuirf
aeconnno.lation, and a iM.usaml ,.ther matters of detail both here an.l in !• mdan.l For these
reasons and when I t.dl you that I have been in Quebec between live and six weeks alrea.lv,
L,7,' If .' f"'' ';;"''V'*"i- *"''!" '"" ;«'■'. «"V^i<lo'-ation wm interfere with the question beiu-,'
brought before the Executive Counal at ite tirst meetiu<'.
I have the honor to bo,
Sir,
Your most obedient servant,
The Honorable F. Lemicux,
Chief Commissiouer of Public Work.-j, Quebec.
ROBERT LAMONT,
PfrnLic 'Works,
Quebec, 9lh February, 1855.
Sir,— I am directed to .iclmowledge the receipt -if your letter of the fifth instant in which
you ask that the (luestion Connected witl; the jiast and future mimagemcnt of the Canailian
Steam ^Navigation Cmpany may be brouj;ht bef,.re the Executive Council at its lirst mcetin"-
In reply thereto, I am instruotci to state that, prior to the Commissioners bein" in a position
to lay the subject satisfactorily before the Executive, or to recommend any actum in the mat-
ter, they require to be furuishcl with th,' inf.rniation calked for by their letter to you of the
thirtieth ultimo, t,) whi,:h y,nir reply ..f the fifth instant is by no means satisfactory or exidicit
In their letter adverted to, the Cimmissioners require an explicit answer a^'to whether
it i.i the Intention of the present Contractors to carr;/ out the requirements and conditions of
their Contract as d now stands, or othcrmsc. To this you repiv, on the thirty-first tint vou
have just grounds to cinidain that such a questiim is jmt to you at all, as nothin"-' in your
coinmuuieation with the Government can lead them to the concli.sion that vou do n,>t intend
to liilfil It. On this p.iiiit I am instructed to observe, that the Commissioners are of oninioa
that tliey have every groun,l to justify them in putting the question, and in requiriu" a (lirect
answi.T to it, prior to their bringing the subject before the Executive. °
lu your letter of the thirteenth of January last, you announce" your ha.ym<r como out to
Canada " to a.seertam whether the Oovernmeut are disposed to admit of some modifications of
the terms of tlie Contract for the future.
In your k'ttcr of the twenty-third of January last, you again express your desire "tohavo
" modifications made in the Contract."
In your letter of the twenty-fifth Januaiy last, y,)u sent a sohedulc " of the alteratiou
and inodifieations ,lesired in the contract. " That the Company have fijiind that modifications
are jta-mu ;■//," and that the " full amount of the subsidy now asked for is absolutely neces-
tar,j:' ^
Inyourlettcrof the thirty-first of Ji.-uary last, you repeat that "one of my objects in
" coming out to Canada is to obtain if ])ossible, some mo,lification of our contract."
In your letter of the fifth instant oceura the f,dl,.wing passage. " I cannot imagine it to
be the serious itif.ntiou of the Government to objeet to any reas> aable modification of our
contract for the future."
When in additi,)n to the foregoing, the Commissioners take into consideration the nature of
Mr. Cropper's letter of the twenty-ojjhth of November, as referred to iu youra of the thirty-
1
9
T ascertained
iitcil uiifavor-
licli cniiinated
i])iirtiiiit iule-
3 tlic Govern-
ed to 119, and
ot fipin'cciate
it tlie service
I'iiil iloranfjc-
it Jill obstacle
uilitioatiou of
authority to
naf^nitude of
rt of the Go-
ull benefit of
■rwisc bo ac-
ic cstablish-
, — furwliarf
. For theso
sks ah'oady,
estiou being
AMONT.
IRKS,
ry, 1855.
it, in which
^ Canadian
it meeting.
1 a jjofiition
in the mat-
you of the
or explicit.
whetlier
ndilions of
t, that you
g in your
not intend
iif oj)inioa
iga direct
>mo out to
ications of
! " to havo
nlteratioa
lillcationa
'dy neces-
objects in
ginc it to
n of our
nature of
be thirty-
timo, thc\ think tliey have every reason to require the explicit information for ■whioh
lave been called on. Mr. Cropper's letter ia very business like and explicit, and appears
leCominissiucerstoadniitofnomisint.rpretation. The sub.itauceof ilbeariugon thepointt
ercoiusidcration, is as follows;— that in 1852 the " Canadian (Jovernmeut entered into a.
laiii contract with -Messrs. Liiinont and Mel.arty, who witc unable to carry it out, and liad
■ly in 1854 transfeirud it to the jiaities whom he, (Mr, Cropper,) represent^ that these par-
.■«, aetiii" under tlni title of the " Canadian Steam Navigation Company," of which he is the
Jepnty Chairman, had performed IB voyiitcos,— that, although the vessels fell sliort in tonnage
by 1U(J <ir 1 5U tons, of that i>reseiibed in the contract, the Company hoped the subsulv would
not be withheld, when the Coveium.iit tool< illtoeon^ideration the high i)riees they had topay
f.n'the ve.'^sels, the (liHieulty and exjienM' experienced in consciiuence of the very severe winter
and the existence of ice in the St. Lawrence later than usual, the low rates of treight^and pas-
sage at whi<'h many of the vovages were pei'formed in coinj)lianc(! with the terms of tlie con-
tract, have been Itrought under the notice of some of the members of the Government, that
</(/,< Company has made a contract for three tir.st class vessels, whicli, with otlier arrange-
ments would i)utthemin a condition to i)lace the steam communication lietween Lngland and
Canada, in a situation to bear favorable comparison with that existing between hughmd and the
Uuite.lStates, "to an-omjilk/i ir/iich, hoii;vrf,a mxchlanifr Kuhahlij than that rontcunfd (ii the cx-
iitluit contract will ho rcjuiml;" that the dinioulties at this time ofraising the necessary large
capital, compel tlie Com])anv before thrii j,roc«d further, to ascertain—
AVrs^,— Whether tlic (b.vernmeiit is prcpio'cd to pay for the past service, and,
*W'0»k%,— Whether an increased subsidy for the future will be granted, and to what
extent. ,, , ,. . ,, ...
That for roas-ons affect inir the interests of the Company,— " a dissolution of the existing
Company is neeessarv.and they had taken stejjs towards elfecting this object ; that it is there-
fore, necessarv and at this moment of pressing impovtanc. b) them, to be mformedot the in-
tention of the' Government as rriiarda the Kiimiort the;/ arc read;/^ to ^)rant to such a Company,
as it';//<'>«/ ///<(< .v'(i>)/o)7. thev will be compelled to breakup the line." _ , ;i
'i'hat the le.^al steps taken to dissolve the Company wouhl occupy six or eight weeks, and
being unable to tind auv one whom thev can send to represent them or depute to arrange tlus
matter iu Canada, and as coiTcspdndeuce involves d.lay " the terms on which they
would ho, willing to rc-or(jaHi.:c the Company are spccilied." That these terms are as tol-
"^^"i'liey " would not belimitcd in the rates of freight or passage." (By the present contract
both are limited.) ,„ , . i. i *i.
They would not agree to perform above S i knots an hour . (By the present contract they
are bound to y knots.) , „ , , • xi
That to carrv oiia fortnightly service between Liverpool and Quebec, during the summer
and to Portland during the winter, they would require a subsidy of .f.'jO.OOO per annum. (.\t
the r.ates (d" the iircscnt contract, sidisidv for such service w " i be £00,070.)+ _
On a review of all those circumstances, the Commissio- found themselves in tins posi-
tion. They are informed, .an.l the transfer of the contract seems fully to establish it, that
your firm was unable without the aashlancc of the prcunt rV(?iar//(ni Steam ^avlgatlon Com-
pany "to carry out the contract inbi which y<in had entered with the Government ot Canada ;
that vou had tr.ausfcrred your contract to that Company without the Government being in any
manner appiizedoforpai'ties to such transfer; that the Company to which the contract was
transferred, found it necessary to effect their dissolution, and state Certain terms without a
eomplianee with which on the part of the G-overument, tliey will not proceed further, ihaX
these; t.jrms would not oulv involve a great departure from the conditions ot the contract en-
tered into bet:ween vour tinn .nnfl the Government, but also a very .^ernms adihtum to the
amount of subsidy sanctioned bv the Legislature : All of which, m addition to the stateineut
in your letter (d' the twenty -fifth of January last, that you had with you no document to
shew " that the iiro^ent Company ' the Caiiadnni Steam Nariijatton Compan;/, was lormetl ex-
pressly for the purposes of this contract," and from Mr. Cropper's stating m Ins letter that
" the Company at this moment were unable to find any one whom they could send to represent
them, or depute to arrange the matter in Canada," make it necessarv that the Commissioners
should, as they have already more than once required, 1)C informed by i/oH distinctly, as re-
presenting the party with whom they have contracted, and as you state m your letter the only
" legal medium" for the settlement of the matter, whether it is yoiir lutenlioii to carry out the
requirements and conditions of the jiresent contract as it n.)W stands, or otlierwise ; ami it the
onsweris aHirimdive that you will inform them fully, as to the pre|)aration for so d,>ing,— in
which from tlie nature of Mr. Cropper's communication, cannot be included the vessels relerrea
to by hlin or being in course of construction. .
In conclusion, 1 am directed shortly to advert to one or two points in your late c.mimuni-
cation. , . .r^ i i -11
Referring to the Annual Keiiort to tlie Legislature from this Department, required by
law in which unfavorable mention is made of the manner in which the contract had l.ccn
•arriedout up to the date of that Report, you assume that "it emanates trom Mr._ KiUaly,
the Assistant Commissioner." This Report is submitted and signed by both Commissioners,
conjointly, aud from the character of the Honorable the late Chief Commissioner, it cannot,
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with proprictT, be supposed tliat ho wouhl put, his iiamo to nny Eeport in Tvhioh ho dm
Y.iu further state thi\t tlie eoiilraet sorviro 1ms he.ii performed for two yenrs witl\out at
«ompkiiit hiivinu' Ih'ou made 1>5 the (iov.nimoiit. \n Aj.r!/. \i^r>^^. n menunial was sent '
tJ»o (iovernnieut bv the Board of Trade. .f Montreal, .•otnplainiiiir of tli<- rlass of vessels pu
(in tho line ; a eopy of wliifh mem. rial wii.-< transmitl.d to yom- ai;cnt Mr. B.^lllioufce. In
(Woi'-o-, 185:^, IhatY'enll.'man in cii^.'iinen.v of th.' eonlimu'.l .lissatisfaeti.m felt as to 1h.!
proee.Mlin.'s of the Uom])anv. was written t.. rxpre^^sivo of di:'Mpi)ointm.-nt, and that unless
iome t-atisl'aetorv proof wa^^ immediat.dv ollVreil, that the expeetati.m of the hue l.ciiit,' put
int.. I'tlVotive ..pcrati.m will he r.'aliz.'.l.'tli.-^ Cov.-'ri-m.^Mt must eonsiiler the oontraot f,.rleit.vl.
In June 1851, your au'ent i.s ai,'aiii informed that the ternus and cmditions ot the rontrael
not haviir'lu.on fultill.d'li.' was r.(|U.^-t.Ml to state inuueiliat.dy for the iulormation of the (;.>v-
.•rumtnt wh.-ii the dmpany wouhl h.iu a p..siti.in to earry .mt their eontract n> a salistaet.>ry
manner.'and as r.Minir.Ml bv the eon.lition.s „f it, d'e. The Legislature havmg passe.l an Ad-
dress for certain information eomie.'t.-d with vour e.^utract. a e.ijiy of it was tmnsmitt.Mlto
Tourai'eut re.iuestiu" him to furni-h eei tain d. tails to the Coinmission.'rs of Public Works.
The informati.m so furnished beiiiLT vagu.'. thai gentleman was again written to rcque.sting
bim to furnish more .listiiu't and d.taile.l r.-pli.s, which have not yet been reccivei .
In v..ur letter of llie twentv-thinl «( Januarv ISP,''., it i* stated that although the contract,
bears date August, ISo'J, it was'not until March 185^.. that, it was e.mipleted; but m n htter ol
Mr MeLartv, one of vour tirm, the ree,.i].l of tb.' ratilicati.ni of th.^ e..ntra<'t tor the Canadian
part of tho service is'stat.nl to b.' in the .'ud of det.d.er. 1852. With reference to the raMi_
«iiti..n of the Portland portion of the eontract, it is stated in y.mr letter ot the twenty-thir.l of
Januarv 1855' that " it has not hmi rati/inl >'p to that diji." Mr. M.'Larty, in his communioa-
ti'oii of 'I'th Ajiril, 185.3, mentions the ratifieatbrn .)f the Portl-iu.l porli..n as having taken jdace
in March, 1853. , , , i i i i
The Commissioners regret tho length to which this correspondence has been extemle.l, anil
be'icve it would not have been necessaVv, had the inf.>rniation they called for been furmdied
by you ; and without which, as you have already been informed, they are not prepared to
bring the eubject under the eousideratiou of the Executive.
I have the honor to be.
Si.-,
Your obedient servant.
THOMAS A. BEGLY,
Secretary.
To Robert Lamont, Esquire.,
Sworas, Hotel.
\
SWORUS' HOTF.*,
Quebec, 12th February, 1855.
Sin.,— ■[ reoeived, .m Satur.lay afternoon, n letter dat.d the day previous, addressed to me by
Mr. Begley of your de]iartmoiit, in which it is intimat.'.l to nic that you are not prepareil t.>
bri'i!" the subject of our Contract under the.consi.leratjon of the lOxecutive until you have been
informed " distinctlv as representing the jiarty with whom fluy have contracted, and as you
"stat.> in vour letter the only legal meilium for the settlement .>f the matter, Avhethcr it is
'' vour intCniion to carry outthe re.piiremeiits and conditions of the present Contract as it now
"stands, or otherwise, and if the answer is athrmativc, that you will inform them, fully, as to
•' llie uiepiiration^ for so doing, — in wdiich, from the nature .)f Mr. Cropper's communieatiou,
•• cannot be included the vessels referred to by him as being in course of construction." _
ivhen, in aecor.lance with usage and a desii'o to .djserve all the courtesy due to y.mr impor-
tant ollic'e, I made appliealioii through yoi:r department to Government for payment for past
services, and sugtrested some nioditications of our Contract f.ir the future, I di.l bo under the
impression that the funeti.m of your .leparfmeiit consisted in laying it l>efore the Government;,
v.)ur peremiitory r.'fusal to do' so shows me to have been in error, and leaves me no otlier
course than to address the (iovcrnincnt on tln-se subj.'Cls dir.X'tly.
In d.iiii" so, I will state my reasons for deviating fr.mi the ..rdinary course, and I will take
the occasion of going over the last letter fn^m y.mr department, in whi.'h trarbled e.\traettj
from mv eorrcsp^mdence i* the least of its sins. \Mr, Killaly's Report, to which 1 have alrea.ly
in iny correspondence adverted, feigns to .loubt the e-xistence of .mr Cmtract at all— udvi..es
that "the service should be doubled, and concludes with statin;; that lirst-class steam-vessels were
tlii'ii buildiu" bv enterprising men in this I'r.ivince, which might be got f.)r the servic. I can-
not explain C> nnself Mr, Killaly's douut of the existence of our Contract, excejit by a desire
t,o "ivc to these enterprising men the whole Contract if we can be got rid of; the obstacles I
have met in ymr dc]iailnu'nt sliew me sullieieutly that tho iuflucuces uud interests which .sug-
gested that Report continue to prevail.
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tfi* witliDiit ill
111 Wiis sont '
< (if vi'ssels jiu
BrlllMm^c. In
Mt !IS to llll'
mid tliiit \inl''ss
lino liciiiL,' put
iitrii'^t forlcitc'il.
if tlio contract
limi of tlio (!ov-
n a satisfuctory
imssed an Au-
, li'i\nsiiiittoil to
I'lililic W<ivl<9.
t(i. requesting
jivcil.
ijli tlio oontfnct,
mt in a Ltter of
!• tlie Canadiiin
oc to tlic I'M^iti-
twcnty-tliird of
his oiimiiuinioii-
du'^ taken plaee
Ml extended, ami
been I'uriii-^lied
,ot projiareil to
:gly,
Secrolary.
HoTF,»,
ebniary, 1855,
(h'C'ssod to mo by
not prepared to
:il you have been
eted, and as you
n; Avhetlicr it is
!ontraet a:^ it now
them, fully, as to
5 ooinnuinieatiou,
struction."
e to your impor-
]iiiynieut for past
did BO under the
tlut Goverutneut,
aves me no otUcr
", and I T\ill take
trarbied i.'Xtractt*
eh 1 have already
ct at all — iidvi.ios
team-vessels were
le sei'vico. I oan-
xcept by n desire
f ; the oiistaelcs I
tcrcsts AvliioL sug-
.t bein,. eoinmunieated to us ' '' ' "'' «"'"'<^'""^'l '" t^e lleport, aud without eveu
a.i i"-S':^;^S;i;:;;;;;:i;^,.!^^rS^^^^^ --I^ -^edf.,r„o ..o.
■'^V/'l-^thoir bein,. j„.,iH,.d by- public evnlVnev The'' " "^'7''"" ^""''' ^'"l'""!
and It requires nuM'. ly tl.at our daim shoul 1 n n'/i.f \ '"! ^'■■""'■"t owe us the money.
^^'yod, aud the m,idili,.alio„, are eitle vho ?^^l^ <-oD-
'•^J^eted; but thoy are in the se„,e of 1 e I eno he - ■'■"■'"' '"."';"">• '"' '"'"Pted or
The importanoe of steaii eonimini ,t , f V. • <-""""'«" "U'l'^' «f Public Works,
of uo ordiua'ry .espousib i A Z ' „ '" T country is such as to make it matter
cousi.leration it deserves ^ ^ '"'"' ^^■'""'^■'"^^e or neglect to give the subject thli
'" ''"''!^T:1 ^% ?---ly.to. as..^o you, that oi. of „„ disrespect to you or the
w.l ably aud honestly prciide, I thik mvsdf
. the Goverumeut iLrect without aay more delay
.■nor to be, Sir,
i our most obedient servant,
IIOBERT LAMOJTT.
dopartnieut over wlii,.h,lhMve no doubt
«hut up to the absolute necessity of add:, ',
I hare th-
To tho n.m, F. Lemieux,
Chief Commissioner of Public Works, Quebec.
n.Mo "t^r"'' "' ''"'''''' '^'''''''' ^^ mvT.n,ooL, merchant.
from \i;:^o::::::,:::t' ''"' '-"'"'''-^ '- '- ^-^ -"-t their re^^m. any pay whatever
n.eut of Public Works, until he has U 1 ..: 1 .^ ';;;''''^^ '"V"^''' ^''^' ''"P-'^'-t'
bring tho matter before the (^iver,,„, .mM, , ' ■' " "■ " ^h'P'"'t">«it that thry wil net
answered, the answer to whie it is TiV t^^ "11 /'iV; .' '">""""■''< ^"t»' ^hat department i.
tion and pr,..judiee the ease he is i si .0 of I" ' 'l' ';7'' A"'' ^•""■•, ^I^"""''ialist in .'{ false posi-
That your Memoriidists have J . itl'u m • I ? ' '" 'T''^'''^^''''' ^'^ ti-e Govermnent.
they have the right to lav their eas ■ be V. , v „ , iT'f^ ^'™""^-°t. and conceive that
your Memorialist b..liev,.s bv i t .re .. n . • '^"^,H' ^'■""'' Departments, suggested as
Commissioner of PubhcWorkV ^^verse to bm ami indicated /n the last Report of tL
tioniiStl: leaSaS^^^^^^ lf7"^^e of peti-
Goverament and disposed of, luid th^rtbeforrrvfi nl ' f' i^iay be taken up by th.
Ob ections. if any, that the rb,v .nm,. 1 n v Inve v,.,t *> f"''? ^"^ ''""'.*° '"'' ''"^ P""^. tl^e
an opportunitv a(For,le,l hiui of , !- .'f'^^^ to him, and
pleased t., peruiit your MiniSsri.v,''/,™- ^,'^' father, that your Kxeellency will b.
gestionsofSnodifiLioiiso 1 J i;;'"J7
of your Memoriulist, aud such as ,nii;i"!..;:;J,I;Li:;;'eaiirf;;r:"' " " '^''"'^'^ '" '^' ^'l'""*^"
will b'!"!'f "•'' ^'i'"'' ^^^-'""':'ali-^t !'>nubly prays that your E.xcelleney
an I t f '^'''""'"^'>' P'"=«';^ i^' l"'i"-^' W-^ case before the Government
and tliat a warrant be ordered to issue in favour of your Memorial
sts ..,r the amount of sub.i.ly due to them by the C ma ian G n-ern-
uiat ^iKii o hje.'tums be lorthwilli communicated to your Memorialist
to obtam Ins answer thereto before any fiual deeisiln b« cone to by
the Government. And lastly, th.it your Excellency be nlea.ed ^
tlit ex.stiug contract. With the greatest coulidence in the sense
Dated at Swords' Hotel, ROBERT LAMONT.
<-^"'jbec, 13tli lY'buary, 1855.
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Government IIoi'se,
Quolicc, 16tli February, 18;j5.
I ni'i ilircctod by His F..\colloivy, tlu- (JnveriPT (uiicriil, to ai'liiiowl.tlgo ynur Momori
of tbis iliiv. •, • 1 » ii 1
]lis kxcMleiiPy bns liilil that Moniorial before liis Hxeeutivo Cininoil withuiit the lena
debiv. mill lias renue'ted llieir ailviee tbereou, -witli retVreiioe to the followiMj,' ])a#sat,'o in x
vol"" Moinoiial,— " That your Miiiiorialir^ts um ooutraeted with the Caiiailiau (iovcruineut, \
•'ntui .■oiKcive that they" liave a lii^'lit to lay their case before it without obslaele from
" Depaitiiiciits, lie." ■ i «
Jli^ Ivxcelleiiev desires me to observe that he h wholly at a loss to conceive what
bindrane.s or impediments to free aeecss on your part, to the Canadian Government, have
been otiereil by any one.
I have the honor to be,
Sir,
Your most obedient humble servant,
R. Lnmont, Esq.,
ifcc, etc.. &c,
Quebec.
BURY,
Civil Secretary
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Swonrs' Hotel,
Quebec, nth February, 1855.
Mr Lord,
I have the honor to ncloiowledge your letter of the If.th. Wherein you say vou are direct-
ed by His Excellencv the Governor General, to ackuowledi^'e iny memorial, and that lli-s hx-
celleuev had laid itbtdoro his Executive Council without the least delay, and had requested
their advi.'e theieou, and that, with reference to the foUowiu-? passage in my memoiial, " that
"vour ]\Icmorialists have contracted with the Canadian Gov^nment, and conceive tliat t ley^
'•iiave a ri-ht to lay their ca'^e before it without obstacle from l)cpaitmente, &c.
His Excellencv was wholly at a loss to conceive what hindrances or impednuents to tree ac-
cess on mv part to the Canadian Government, had been olVercd by any one. , . ,, ,
I was sure from the importance of the subject, that it merely required to bring the sub-
iectof the contract for steam communication between this country and England, uu(ler ttie
notice of His Excellency to secure to the contractors a just and prompt consideration ol their
case and a iitieral trfatmcut at the hands <.f the Canadian Government, and 1 ieel gratelul to
His Excellencv for taking ni) the matter without delay. . . ^ . , ,
With rcsireet to the sentence vnn quote from my memorial, it is fitting to make some re-
marks and explanations. I was induced to undertake a Voyage to this conntrv bv the t anadian
Steam Navigation Company, as being well ac(iuainted with their views and jiosscssmg their
contidenee, which the fact ofseleeting mo for this duty sutl; i.ntly proves. On my arrival here
in the end of December, I found that most of the members of Government were absent irom
Quebec, and that I must wait their return and jiarticularly that of the Commisbiouer of 1 ublic
Works. Immediately after the return of this gentleman 1 called upon hiin, and exphmied at
length the views of the Canadian Steam Navigation Cenip.iny ; and on the •2:^rd oi January, i
addressed to him a letter which contained in substance what I had had the honor ot communi-
cating verbally. In that letter is to be found the following paragraph. " Ihe unex])ecled and
"unusual action of tho British Legislature, (already explained,) prevented lor some time the
" contractors from associating their friends together to form a eom]>any for the purposes ol this
" contract, as originally intended. Meantime the contractors nv vidually made |i:reat exei tione
"for the execution (d'the service, and had invested capital and incurred rcsiMinsil.ihtiesamount-
" ing to not less than n50,000 sterling before the ]iresent Company, called '• Jhe tana<lian
"Steam Naviiration Coiiijiany" was organized. This Comp.any, composed oi some ol tlie wealtU-
" iest men in England, took over the steamers purchased by theconlraelvrs, madee<.ntracts lor
" new ones, carried out the service of 1851, and are prepared to place the service on the most
"efficient footing, if suitable encouragement is given by the Government, ol Uinada.
At my next interview with him he asked me for my authority to treat with the Canadian Gov-
ernment on behalf of the Canadian Steam Navigation Company. I informed him that Mr.
Cropper, in a letter to Sir Allan McNab, had given to me all the authority it was supposed
necessary to enable me to learn what were the views of the Canadian Government on the
subieet of some modification of the existing contract, and that any thing to bo done should b«
Bubiect to the ratification of the Canadian Steam Navigation Conqianv, or subject to any other
condition the Government might think it right to impose. The objection of want of authority
was not removed by these olfers of mine, and I wrote to the Commissioner of 1 ubiic W orke,
Btatiug that as principal contractor, I was the legal medium of communicating with the Uov
i
i
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4-
i
cou
ncnf. Matters vcmainc.l in tins way for some diirf, when I rcoeivcil a letter from that
,)artnieiit, luwhiohl am apprized t nut Ilie .Icpartineiit are not prri>are(( to brin.' the sub-
■etbelore tlie (loveiiiment nntil 1 will liave answered the followint: nncstion "distinctly"
■** '■'■P'"^"'''"^' tl'C l'ai;t.v •' witli whom they !iavo eontracted, and as vuu slate in vour letter
■ the otdy l,y,d moham lor Ih,. (]„■ sfttleninit of tlie matt-T, whellier'it is vour intfutiou to
carry out the re(iinrem('nt3 and eondilidna of the present ontraet as it now stimdi or other-
wise ; ami it tii;' ans\y.-r is atflr.native that y.ni will inform them fully, as to the mvparation
,,!• ,o ,!oin-,-in whieh Ironi the iialure of Mr. Cn^i^per's eommuuicatiou, eaiiuot he included
the vessels rdcrreil to by him as beiiii,' in course of construction."
Th( fact of the eoiitraet b.iiii,' iu the hands of a Company, not'iii mine, had liccn mentioned
|jy me to all the members ot Government with whom I had thelmnorofau interview iuclud-
iiif< thet.mimissioner of Public Works. It was contained iu my letter 1>- the department of
the 2;iid January, already referred to— it was stated iu the letter written by Mr. Cropijcr to tho
Government, dated 28lh November, to which frequent reference has been made by the Oov.
-rmiient, in tlie course of my eorrespondeuce,— it was known to Mr. Killaly the Assistant Com.
iissioiier ot I'ubhc Works, who had an interview with Mr. Crojipe ■ "in En-'hind iu the
mrso ol .ast year,— It wa* known to the Honorable John Ross and to the irononibl* F.
limeks, tlio latter of whom as a member of the Canadiim Qovernmeut, liu.l assured Mr. Crop-
per that tlie Canadian Government would appreciate the exertions tlicv had made to fulfil
their contract, it was under such eircumst.mces that it was aske.l what prcnarutions I had
made, u'Uhout takinc, ,nto ccconnt any of the vr>^^iU the Canadian Strain Xaviaalion dm-
pauy wor hiidduiy to carry out (he contract. When it is borne in mind that Bueh prepara
tions alone involve an expenditure •■xceeding £200,000 sterliiifr, which the Company are mak-
lUf,' 111 the building of three additional vessels, the putting of such a question looked like
trithng with me and with the important interests I reitreseut, it is under these cireumstanecs
that this eommunieation contaimngthe iletermiuation of the department not to brin" the mat-
ter before the Government until it was answered, apjieared to me to put obstacles to the sub-
ject being taken up by the Govei-umeut, and this will explain that portion of my memorial
which you cite.
In conclusion I beg leave to assure His Excellency that after being eight weeks in Que-
bec eudeavormg to ascertain the sentiments of the Canadian Government on the subject of
the modiiicationsof (his contract, a largo portion of which time I ought to have been in
Western America endeayoring to peeure as much of the trade of that country by tho St.
Lawrence as an effieient rapitl Steam communication with England from Quebec may servo
„..,,. .^.^,,„., „... ^n.v.in ,,,j,ju ,3n-,i,u eouiiMuiiicaiion wiun nngianu irom ijuebec may servo
to invert from its usual rouio by tlie American seaboard, the necessity of my ijroeeeding to
the west without further loss of time, if the spring business of the Company was not to be
materially dammfieu, made it necessary for me to bring the subject under the immediate oon-
SKh'ration of the (iovernment, and hence my memorial to His Excellency. Now that the mat-
ter has got before him I am sa/istied that speedy and full justice will be done to the con-
tractors and their views favorably outertaiued as far us public interest may justify or re-
I hove the honor to be,
My Lord,
Your Lordships most obedient humble servant,
Lord Bury,
Civil Secretary,
<te„ &c.,
ROBERT LAMONT.
(fee.
SiH,
GOVEUNMENT Hoi'SE,
^Quebec, 19th Febuary, 1855,
i-Tfi ^ ""^ •^'••cetcd by the Governor General to acknowledge t';c receipt of your letter of th«
iTtii instant, on the subject of whieh the decision of His Excellency iu Couueil h«8, it is pro-
bable, been uotilied to you by this time. ^
Robert Lamont, Esquire,
Swords' Hotel,
Quebec,
I have the honor to be,
Sir,
Your most obedient humble servant,
BURY,
Civil Secretary,
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Exec
Sm,
ITIVK ('oiNdL Okkice
T (iin riininuindi'il liv TII^^ F.\i>iAh
(iu.b,c, Itjth [''cli
uiuy, ISSf)
"'■V. tlio n
^"!';':;'7'7> ''•''!, 'V''' ;r'^:''^''"'' i''''^i''f^ that a\v
Tovprnor fJiMd'al, fo .sfnt
lilt of ,,iliM,l_v allcli;.'.! („ 1,0 .liio (lie ■(•out
anaiit hu onlorcd t,, |
willi r<'r,T.iioo tc
and this Country," tlial InToro His E>
I'ai'lors for tliu steal
'0 is.snod loi> ilio
■y 111 Council oa
"1 srrvico lictwroii i-ln-hmd
'•oiichisioii ,,n the
n voinc r,. iiiiv
nhiiicpiial, If IS lU'Cfssuiv tlial^^ a dc'taih'dstii,.ni..ni ,,i.i,. . i .. .„ • - -"^
•ervico, and of th. an.ouat ch.iiuod thoiil^'rl^Ktl I, ' '^In 'Sr "' ' '''''^ J-''^'na.d iu .u.h
1 have the lioiior to be,
bir.
Your most ol)edieiit servant.
Robert Lamont, Esq. ^^'^^- U- LEI:;, C. E. C.
. S.a.-Ihavo,h,.h rto aoUno^lod.. rocol,t7^oif::"'' P'''1'^ ]''' '?''-''''■
baud ODdo.,..d detailed stateinout of tbo^., a ' e .elf.l ae. n 'U'"^"''^''-' ' "*' ' ""'' "'>^
for. ■> ^°^^ I"-' ''" '"'-'^i »"'' "1 till; umouut ehiiuied there-
I have the honor to be,
Sir.
"i our laost obedient servant,
Wm. H. Loo, Esquire, liOBERT LAMONT.
Clerk Executive Cuuucil.
Sir,
SErRETAUY's Office,
Quebec, 'JOth I'Vbruaiv, 1855.
Iliavo it la oonimaiid to inform you that His Ewollonnv fl,n n
bavin- had uinhr consideration V.-niMiun o i d aS ' l7 • ^'""Y^Z^'""""^ '" <^'^""<^il-
of Liverpool, addivssed to His l^.ll ener' . d 1 ru I , / t /i "' " '>'^^'-'"'' '^^"f''"''^' 't' Co.,
l)erloriu,.,l under theeontraet t.'pro ^ a ,^ i , nt^if ''^ ^"'^^"'>; ''";""• s.-rviee^dread^
pool au.l til.. St. Lawivneo. -lurii.ai,, '^^^^ ^' ^ ,^ .> ^tca-a eoninuimeatioM betwe..n Livei^
Letweei. Liverpool and P-M'tland.^'^i ly ] :^„°;' Ys of mt/n^^^ T\ ^"""''''•>' """ <''"!"- ^vinter,
not up to (ho piUent time been ooinpllj^^^ \uL ^^ ' " ' '',"■'■'"' "^ "'^' '"''^''''' '"'ve
^yhom th..y have assi^nod the .ame, lie I,m 'o o t lo thi C'l!" i'""":^''"'", •"' »'>• ""-^ to
their averair.. speed has fallen veiT short of the " te 1. e 1 iV 'l''^^ *'"'" tli"t ^tij^dated,
boon approa..I.Al, nor the o..veiia,^ted nun £;^:,^;,:^^
never be.'ii oiore than four, while live were ov. v- I !V t'"','' "" J*^'' /'* ^I'lps oinplovcd has
sols en.a^.d ii. the .inter 'season Eve^J^u^^lihd^aHrajSi;:;'^' ^'^^ '''^'^''^'' -^"'o ves-
whici iuiS::i!;7;:iic" S;;e't;i:;".E5J:o; t^ri?'' '''■ ^i--^--;- »- eor,.o.pondoneo
repre.soi.ting the Contraetor, ..i i p£ , / ,f ," ''^^^•"""'^^"'""•s of I'ublie Works and tho.sc
cially the recent eorrespondHieebUwrtltde,^^^^^^;^^^^^^ «', the Contract, and ospo-
the,Km-fultilmoutofthl:.C^n■traot,a,lde, leWti'dS^
tmn to the Puhlm Work, Dopartiaent, le^ulin^ ^ , , ' [.J ^jf^l ^" '^^"'^•^"•^' ''"'^••"'''^■
oduS:'^rf;':^^:S;SSt'!;:f ::; it^ii:-^
Kri-s-ti^E^
each trip already made, ..j-.m oonditU d ho ±^ 1 *'"; ^.'f' ''ft price ho paid for
Charge of all claims, and i/i abaudoaninit of the CWaet ^"^'"'^ '"' "" ^''''''' "' ^"'^ ^^^'-
vrJ!^\:(:^7L:.S:!:^izz::::^^^ ^-1. to e.o,udethe
(Joyernment for Ocean Steam Conmnmio ion I eh ^oVo^^ ^I'^'l''^'^ ^^^"' *'"-' ^^'"'"'i^'u
>Nith others in entering into a new Co ra ' rov ' 1 fif " ''""' L>yorp«ol, or from acting
may be deemed advantageous to aocept. ^ ^'' *"''"' '^'"'^ «'itislacto.y, and such as it
I have the honor to be.
Sir,
Your most ebedient servant,
E. PAEENT,
Robert Lamont, Esq., Aisist, Trov. Secretary,
<ic., <tc,, etc..
Quebec.
I
15
oixiiL Okkick,
. lOUi Foliiuiiiy, 185fJ
> ^tiilii willi ivfcrciipe to^
i-'i'i'il til 1)0 issiu'il lor tlio
■I'vico liftUi'Cli |-;ii.,'l;ill(l
II liny Cdiiclusidu ,^|, On.
l'ii|i-4 ])ii'lun)ivJ ill hucli
it'iit sci'vaiif,
M. II. LEE, C. E. C.
bci\ 11th Feb,!., 1855.
'■ti'i'diu's (Iati\ mill now
aiuuiiut cluimud thure-
lOBEIlT LAMONT.
'Auv's Office,
Hi l'Vliru;ii-y, 1855.
01- f-'i'iK'i-al in Council,
•Ivtiin, McLiirlyd- Co.,
■ liirlhcsiTvicviilrciKJy
iwilion ix'twcfn Livei-
b' <'"<■ dmini,' wintiT,
1.^ of tlioountrMot have
trartors or livtliosoto
.tliau that i-tiji,ilate(J,
■ify of the (rips Jias not
f shipa oinployed Las
L' contract, aud the ves-
'n tlio correspondcnco
ubhtf Works and those
10 Contract, aud cspe-
aud in consoqucnce of
1 satisfactory infornia-
I'aot as it at prct^ent
to the conclusion that
' trips have been made
3 been tlicrcby sliown
't. Lawrence and the
let jirico tic paid for
Hie panics in full tlis-
icsire to exclude tlio
t ^vitb tlic Ciuiadiau
J'pool, oi- from actini?
'actory, and such as it
SwonDs' TToTEt,
Quebec, 24th Feb., 1855.
the il
I liayo the honor to acknowlcdj,'o the receipt of vour I
on of Ills Exccll.Micy tlio Governor f
cttcr of (he 201 h inst., r
'■ommunication between Kn-land «nd this Country,' whiel, r,.nd
rcti.rn to En-land t,.c,.mmunicate il to the Canadian Steam ^^
I'al in Council ujion the contract ' for Sfi
ers necessarv n
'onveviiiir
cam
holth'rs of the contract, that
"y immcdiato
His Excell
the contract from 1
:cney iM jilcascd to sav thct
answer be i^ivcn to it.
avigation Company, the present
It IS not his (hsirc to cxchul.' th
jirct'ent holders of
hecomni!,' ]iarlies to
Steam communication between (hiebe.' ami Livcvn,,,,! VpV,.'" ■""";'■ " V';'>"'""'H(. kh' uccan
into a new contract. ,.rovi,lcd the te' ms c s ,! ', T "f*"'^. '^"'' '"''^'■^ "' ^"''■'■"•S
ta,cous to acc,.,,t. 'I^o onaUl ' Wl S m XaVi""; , n ' r T '' ""'] '" ''TV' '"'^"'^
of this permission to make n,.w ■•irr-m n Vnc t ,, f,,f " ^''H.'l'finy to avail tlMonsclvea
can hardiv fail to deprive Ills t .„ rr -f 1 1 St . f "' '"''"• '^ I-'"'";"' **""'' '"^^ "'' '''•"^' "«
of next smnmer ; it ii necs^ .v tl ?sl n, d b^ k " J^T7'''""l ^'" ' 1"" ''"" '^ ""^ '^H
retmn to Em,H,and what service the Can- 1 ia Tov rmnn " "'"K';'<"""" ''^ "hm, on my
.K.n..f the contract of Au,ns,. i855;wn^i:et;h:;;:r-i,;.'-
e.-soJl';;;lrr;jM:;;S::;t;S .•ab,eC„munssion
permanent steam se.'viee eonld be c ab is , 1 o , :: v!,', "!'";' ^i'":t 'I J"'"^" ^"'^■'■'"' ■''"J
fully to request that I may be furnished wUhth! Ws J 1 '' r ^'"''V'-"^'-'''' "'"' '■^-l""^t-
that r mav be enabled to communic-ite them t tl . ',',"'" ^"^'^•"""■-'■'l "pnu these l-rm.^
facilitate and materially shorten ne^dal^ms ^rn^wi^rSo^^ts"'"'" ''''' "'"^^ ^'-'l^
llieC.overnmctil are no doubt aware that there -„|,; r. :., r \ i
large steamers, and that the Knglish (^ive, ,men tak : Jl "f ;^ ''"'^ ?• iT' ''^"'""^' ^'^'•
rates of eharter, the consc,pieu"> of which nui- nn. t 1 K^v ' , S ^'- ''•>' '■'^■"""^■'•ativo
rise considerably, but the available steam tmle 'St , •""' '"' f *''"^ ^"''^'^"^ ^""
ficient to meet the re<iuircn.ents of tnule an 1 h, J nn He s'\ '1^ '"" "'W '' ''''''^y '^^■
the tardy medium of sailin-versels wlil i , v 1\' ^ .C""ipelled to return to
deram^cments in business ° ' ' "''" ''' '^■'"'•=^'' ^vill inevitably cause very serious
fine:^^:e?;::hl;:hu:r;:';:;:,?^^t^
vice to this couutrv ; but .should [ return t'lVi In 1«^^^^ f '".-'^ '^' •'"'" *''"' *'"^' ^^^"^
ve,.mncnt as is neJcssary to guide thJ Co,,;^;,,;!, ' I ^, t" t,:"'!," i"'""*'"" ^'•"■'' "l" ('-
a future service, they caunol kcci. these v,.isols uue n,l 1 '• '""'""■' '" '■^■'"''"" to
be a tardy negoeiation ; in that case (he«c vc 'scl ,' T .'"'^ "" r'''^''"' ""'' '" ""^7
an interruption .if the st .am navig.ation 1^^. C mad i ., y^" ^'t ^,'''"' ^^'■'^.' /" (-vermuent, anS
rupfon might be obviatod if the Government sefiofa^,' , ^^ .T '"■''''■ ^Y' '"*"-
to pay for any trips tliat mav be made bv the sto-imers t' V p '-""''• '""' '"'"^'^"t
Company, pending any negoeiation, at tl^ r!:^ tl f ma^, 'fi^^ £:":£" ^^"'"" ^-'f!'.'"^
new an;aMgements be made, then, at the rate ,if the Coi tract o LSV- '°"'""' ""^' '^^'^
Will you bring the subject of this letter belore III- rJ n 7
and assure him tlu;! nothing short of an n n^ K!ire:,n'm "^/''^'T; '"'''''^' convenience,
tmi. with Canada, which was commence.l bv t ut ,, 11' ' 1 '"' "" '^'""^ ^'""""unica.
future, dictates the present letter. I eammt ho veve r '„•'"'/' l''^''""""^^»t lodting for the
viction, and hope, that nothing will be done bvtl,,. r •'„ ! . ,'' '^■^P''^"ssing my firm eon-
Steam Navigation Coinpanv, who h.ave ev, e i n^^ '' '• -"^ '^'■7'^''"" "^ t''^' Cauadiaa
preparing for this servic.., until time will ,ave le n a L ''fl" ''"'V'^ l'""'-"'^^' ^""■'-'"^•>-- i°
to the decision of the Governor General in Coundn,;' n '£. tnlraJt."'"""^ "'^ '"^''^''^
I have the honor to be
Sir,
Your most obedient servant,
E. Parent, Esq., Assistant Proviaeial Secretary.
liOBERT LAMONT.
ENT,
»6iBt. rrov, Secrotarv.
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ATLANTIC OCEAN STEAMERS.
\-
Proposcl now Plan of S.ilinss, byll>e -Canadian Steam ^'vijiation Conw
^ ,auv Slcanurs;' siippc^ino iho " Ciuuml Company," and '•Collins
Company
:," lo run tlicir vessels as tlu-y did last year.
],1XKS OF STllA.MKHS
From Livrurooi.
For
Cnnailiiin Cy. Wodncsilay
Cuii!U'«l Cv...;Siitur(l!iy..
Collin's Cv...AVo.lu.'s.hiy '.'
Cumirtl Cy... SatiiriliiT.. 1-|
Cuna(li:iii"'Cy. Wcilruxiny U'
Cunavd Cv...iS:itur(l!iy.. 1"|
Collin's Cy...Wi"lM.'S(lay'2;)l
CuiiaidCy... Saturday.. j2ij
Caniuliaii Cy.:\Vcdiu>sday 'W
Cuiiaid Cv... Saturday.. 2 June
Collin'- Cv... Wo.luosday B
Cuuard Cv...!S'Uurday.. '•>
Canadian Cv.i Wcdursday^KV
Cuiiard Cv..'. Satiinlay..jir>
Collin's Cv...;NV.'dnc'sday|2(»
Cunai'd Cv...;Saturday..|23
Canadian "Cv..W''iliH-silay,'J7
Cunard Cy..'.lSat unlay. .!;5'>
(And so ou.)
Quobee.
Boiitol).
Xcw-York.
Do.
Quolioe.
[Boston.
New-York.
I Do.
Quel ICC.
itoston.
Xew-York.
Do.
Quilioe.
l?,,s|..n.
X.w-York
Do.
Quel IPC.
Boston.
FuoM Amkuii A
Canadian Cy.
Cunard Cy...
Collin's Cy..,
[Ciniard Cy..
Canadian Cv
Ciuiard Cv.."
Cnllin'sCy..
Cunard Cy
Canadian Cy
Cunard Cy.. .
IColliu's Cy.. ,
Cuuard Cy..
Canadian Cv
Cunard Cv..
Saturday. .
Wednesday
Saturday. .
Wednesday
Saturday. .
Wedue.sday
Saturday- -
I - ■
Collin's Cy..
Cunard Cy..
ICanadian Cy
'Cunard Cv..
. .{\Vodnesday|27
.[Saturday. .
, NVednesiiay
, S;iturday. .
.Wednesday
/Saturday. .
. Wcdnesdav
, 'Saturday
I'oii
30
1
7
M
It
18
.'21
. Wednesday :2
.'Saturday. .i'JS
. jWidne-day
(And so on.)
'2'.Tnne Quebec.
c'l " lioston.
Xiw-York.
Do.
Quelice.
Boston.
Xew-York.
Do.
Quebec.
Iuly|r.nston.
Xew-York.
Do.
Quebec.
Boston.
Xew-York,
Do.
Quebec,
ll Aug', Boston.
No.r.._By tbo above it ^;in l^ -,;;-t;'d:a:^;Sf So^
Wednesday and Saturday dur.n« summer ^^^^^^^.^^ C.mr.any'e.
.l,/.<,.^,.,7<'.s' to /•'';'''''\-'j;;';'-;;,nn.eao Liverpool Thursday, 14tl>, (perhaps sooner,)
Steamer, on. say Saturday. 2nd June, ^ ''\' *;'*;'';'; u^r^^^j., jstli^ And a letter postnl at
but if sent .;,; I'oston. (postal on san...uM'ot^^^
Liveriiool f.ir Quebee, on nN -^''"'^f ''^ ,^ ; >ei r'^Steanie^ on predous Saturday (the
S;r5da;sb:rot"a;^rt'eoni^
Cormponcknce hdwem D. Bdlhomc, the Agent of th
merit, relative lo the Snvkc :—
SlE,
Contractors in Canndi, ami the Gov-
Public Works,
Quebec, 10th June, 1851.
Tbe terms and conditions <if the contract with the parties for wVm you are agent.
llie tnma anu cony .te-uners betwcn L verp<i<il and Quebec, not liaviuij
for the e^aliU.-^bment o a hnc ot ;y '^ .^ "^^.j , „.„ d as to state, inunediat.^lv. for
been fuUliled. 1 am daveted 1,i re.iues * " > ' ' |> ' _ ' -', ^ion to carry out th.ir contr.act
tho in.;;rma.ion of the '---•;;; ^'^i^J , iu".;U:f il Also, thk you will state dis-
in a satisfactory manner, and as " 1 " ' ^ , ' ^^.,.,. „,,,,. ,„„v l,avo at their eonunand, Avhat
'.Sii:y™;t:;;!";c::s;r'.':" ivm,,. „,«.,• r„r
naviyatlun.
I bave the honor, ^:c.
THOMAS A. BEGLEY.
17
V'
vmatlun Com-
•Culliii's
aiul
UICA
2 June
C
Foil
Qiii'bce.
I!(ii*t"in.
Xew-York.
Do.
Qlicboc.
Boston.
N(.'W-Yoi'k.
Do.
Qufljoe.
lioi^ton.
[Now-York.
Do.
QiU'boc
Boston.
New -York.
Do.
Qufbcc.
All!,' I Boston.
July
L
E;ntion Conii>;\ny avo
he CoUinV Lino do.
ica rcLjulai-ly every
'anitiliun Conrwiy's
h, (iioiliaps sooner,)
ui a letter po.-^tiHl at
age) Would leach its
.•viuus Saturday (the
ext Saturday (lyth).
ma<h, and the Oov-
UBLic Works,
J, lOth JnuiN 1S51.
,vhoni you ar<; agont,
(iucliio, not having
late, inmu'diatcly, for
•ry out tlioii' coiitr.ict
iiat you will state dis-
(heir coniniand, what
ned will be ready for
MAS A. BEG LEY.
MoNTRKAi,, 15/A June, 1854.
Srii,— r liuve the honi)r to aoknowr.'dijo rcoeij.t (tf your communication of the lOtli instant, nnd
Tosft no time in furnishlntc tli«' re<|iiisit.' infornuition for the use of tlie (iov.'rnnient. Th«
CrumdinnS.N. tlo.liay... since Nov. hist, niad.> f, trips to Portland, and ;j tolIicSt Lawrence.
The veH.seis employed ni this service were idl ,,f ir,-eat.T toiiiiaLrc iIimu the niiniiiinni provided for
in the c(>ntract, and the tact that sonic of the voynifes were tedious, and in a I'.w instaiwes inter-
rupted, is solely altrihiit.d to the unusiinl accnniiilation.or ice ill thedulf and Kivcr. T.'ic steani-
i>\i\\m (Htnwn, L'/kivi)/, and I'hojiairn are ipiite eapahle of perforniiiii; a fortnightly service,
flTui I have no doubt willd ■, during,' llie reniaiiider of the season, in ;i satisfaetory manner!
BesidcH these, the (lonipan^ .-,.. always avail themselves of i\\y Snnili Sninh, should ii be ne-
cessary to use them at liny lime. The Comiianv have contract. 'd Un- the buildiri" of s,.veral
ycKsels not to be surpassed by any atl.iat, the tirst.' tlie /•.>;„ of 170(i tons, will be readv for service
in October, slie will be succeeded in rii|.id sui ssioiihvthc (hilor/n. of u'lOi) tons burthen and
the //«ro//, a twin vessel. The sliiiidiiii,' ol tlie Coiiipanv is .seeoinl to none in Creat Brilain,
either in point of wealth or respectability. That thev have not succcciUil ill eiii,'ai,'iiii,' lar^fcr and
more jiowcrfiil v.sscIh, is t.. hr iitliibntcd to tlie vrv^rcat ditlicultv which has existed forso^ne
time, in makirij,' contracts for biiildini;, and the impossibility of eharterini,' this class of vessels. I
•liall at all times, be glad on behalf of the ("oiimanv. to coni'munieale fullv with the (iovernmont,
as reBpoct.s the progress they are luakinir. and their efforts to aid the I'osfid communication with
Britain, and to curry out the coutract to the fullest extent that either the Government or country
may desire.
I Lave the honor to be, itc,
^ . „ , „ DAVID BELLIIOUSE.
Tliomas A. Bcglcy, Lscj.
Puni.ir Works,
Qi:kbec, Snl Xol:, 1854,
Sir,— T encJoso to yon, herewith, a copy of an Addre&s of the Legislative Assembly, asking
for certain information eoniieefcd with the t'anadian Steam Xavigation Company, and am di-
rected to request tliat_ yon will he so good as to furnish the Couiiuissioiiers of Public Works
with the information in (piestion.
Your retition on the jiart of the Company, has hecn received.
I have the honor to be.
Sir,
Your obedient servant,
D. Bellhouse, Esq.,
Aj^cnt for the Canadian
Steam Navigation Company.
THOMAS A. BEGLY, Secy,
Montreal, 15lh Nov., 1854.
SiE.— In answer to your letter of the Rrd instant, enclosing an Address of the Legislative
Assembly, asking for certain information connected witli the Canadian Steam Navigation Com-
pany, I beg leave to state to the 1st enquiry : —
Whether the line consists of tine screw steamers of first clan's, being not less than 1200 tons
burthen, and 300 horse power. 230 feet keel, breadth ;M feet, that tlie"Companv have had four
first class steamers in the scviee, three of v.liich are of the size and power speeitied in the con-
tract, and the whole would liave been of the same class had it been po.ssible to procure them,
but in consequence of the breaking out of the war, and the couseipicnt unprecedented demand
for steamers of all classes, it could not be done, and the Coniiiany consider that under the cir-
cumstances the contract has been c.arried out in the most efticieiit manner possible, although
perhaps not to the strict letter of the contract, and this wa.s done at a period when the Home
Government were offering mo.st advantageous terms for steamers to all Steam Companies in
the United Kingdom. It was found that four steamers would have been amplv butiicient to
perform a fortnightly service had not two of the vessels been so long detained and so seriously
injured by ice in the Spring, and since that period the service has been regulaidy and satisfac-
torily performed. It may be mentioned that the Collins Mail Line has never consisted of more
than four ships, and the service is now being performed with three.
To the 2nd. Whether their draft of water, after the consumption of fuel and landing of
freight at Quebec, as spccificd'in Contract, was 1 1 feet. It would be impossible to construct
Screw Steamers of the size required to work efficiently and safely on so light a draft of water
a» 11 feet, as in such ease it would render the MaclJiinery useless, the screw would not Lava
sufficient bold of the water.
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\
Snl, Wlii'tlicr llic prico of lVfii,'lit (Iciiuindcd for linr- d'nod..* 1ms cxcoodid flOs. 4
'I'lic fiiiL,'lit oil (iiic (iood.i diiiiii:,' llii' S[iiiii!^ and Siiiimicr voya^'^'s did not in any case o\
Cfcd f.iiH. |.ei' toll, and in lln' Tali iIk' fii'it^lil wan riii-.d to Wiis., wliidi ili.l not, l)y anv nuiuih
coin |)tii.-.al.! till' Cnni|,iinv, .iwiin; to the vciyliigli lal.' of wa^'.'s. i>rovi»i(inN, .Vc , aniiincon-
si'iliii'iH'c ol till' iiiiiiMial low latf of fii'ii,'lil ill tliu lluniiwani C"art;ocs.
'I'll.' nil. Wlii'tluT til.' tiiiu- Dili wards of any or all of Miid stoanii'i's liii.s cxcoeded lldava,
yo.irly iivoraLfo, and tiim- lioiucwards i;i ijays.
Till' avi'iaye |iiissa^'o of tlio (V>iii])any'» Stoanicro lia\ f not, hIucc tlu' disasters in Llio spring,
mui'li cx'.'ct-di'd 1 1 day.- I'lil. And tlicy liavo made a lit'tti'rnvi'raj,'e tliai» lliduy^ to l.ivorjiool ;
the "Ottawa" |ii'rfoi'in<'d the last pas.sage liom port to port in olevcn days and six hours.
The 5th Wlii'tlifr llif call stianii'rs or any of th.'iii has jirouocdtd tii Montreal and do now
jiroi'oc'd to Ihintrcal «,h stipulated in Maid eoiitraet.
All the sprinif and stmiiurr steamers proeeeded to Montroitl, llioBe nrriviuf,' iu the full did
n it, owiiii,' to there not heiii:,' siitlieieiit water, thii) was a threat loss to the Uompanv, as it eoni-
jielled 'liem to tranship and send the eiii'Ljoes in leii^diters in tow of steamers to Montreal.
May I lie allowed to add that the Company ure iiiakin;,' extensive jileparalions for ne.xt
yeiir'.s serviee, two lai%'u and powerful Steamers will he luadv pri'vious to the opening of uii-
viyution and two others, still larger are in the eour.se of buihlinjj in Liverpool.
DAVID UELLIIOUSE.
Tlblic Works, QuEir
'Mth XovemWr, 1851,
Snt,— In refei'i'nee to your letter of the IStli insl.int, i^ivini; statements with roi,'iird to the
Canadian Steam Navii^'ation Company's vessehs, [ hav.' to iiifonn you that it will he ueeessary,
in replymic to the ipu'slioiis eoiitain.'d in the Address ol the House of Asseii-bly, that you
should answer distiiietly and in iletail with re^'iird to euch vessel, stating Ler burthen, power,
lengllL breadth, time of makiin,' eaeh passa<,'e, ite., ,te.
_ You will be so j,'ood as to furnish this information ininiediately ; as your Memorial of the
nineteenth of Oetober eannot be entertained until the action of the Legislature iu the mutter
generally has been nnule known.
I Lave the honor to be, Sir,
Your obedient servant,
TJIUMAS A. ]51:(;LY,
r\ I) ni ,- ,. , tJeeretarA'.
D. Bellhuuso, Ks(], Montreal. •'
MoNTUE.\i., 18th Deeember, 1851.
Slit, — I have the honor to aekiiowl<'dt,'o ri'eeipt of your letter of the 27tli ult , -whieh fol-
lowed me to I'ortlaii I : I re;;,'rel to find that the loni,' reply whieh I forwarded to the Questions
cont.'iined in tin; Address of the Honorable the Legislative Assembly are not deemed, in some
liartieuhirs, sullieieiitly minute. The information stiil reipnred has reference, von inform me
to each vessel's litirlhen, jiower, leiiLrth, breadlii, time of making eai'h jiassage, ite. To the
most im|)'prt,int of these, I regret that I am not in a position to nplv, and must refer to Eno--
land for the information. By my latest advices, 1 lea..i that the Coiiipanv arc making vii'or-
ous efforts to place the line in the most efUeient state : they eontciiiphite.'in 11(1(111101/^10 "tho
large steamers now eoiistructing, to emjiloy Tow- Duals, .rjct Wharves, ite., f,,r th^ iK'tter eon-
ducting of the serviee. The action of the'Civiadian (Jovernmeii'. in reference to the Memorial
which I preseiit'dsonie time since, for payment of the siibsiily, is waited for witli much anxiety
by the Company, not so much on acjoiiiit of the amount of iiionev claimed, as the beneficial
influeiici- which a knowledge of its actual )iayment cannot fail tij hiive on the Shareholders,
who have embarked tluir eajiital in the enterprise, thinking that 11 mutual jmrt of the value
of the ftoek would arise as iiiue!i from thu Government cnnncotion as from tlie subsidy itself,
h'espeeting the conduct of the sevice liitherto, I do not think it ucccisary to trouble you at
any lengtli; any one acijuaiiiled with tlic state of the Shi))))ing trade in Jiritain dnrini' the
last two years, knows how numerous liie dilKeulties were, eitlier to purchasing, charterin'g, or
to making extracts for the building of steam vessel.'i. I respectfully take leave to express
the opini m that it .should be rather matter of aj)pioval that the Company, iu face of such
formidable obstacles, have been able to do so much as tiiey have done than that some irrei'u-
larities .should have oocurrcd. I shouhl be glad to be favoured willi the dctcrniiuation^of
Government respecting the Memorial at an curly day, so that no lime may be lost iu comuui-
cating with the Comjiany in Liverpool.
I have the honor to be, Ac.
T. A. Begley, Esq.
DAVID BELLIIOUSE.
I
\
it 111 any cmc i m
not hy iinv liiiiiiih
S A'c , 1(11(1 in CDU-
.'xcceilfd 11 iliiva,
tors in tin,' spring.
lays to l.ivi'i'jiool ;
id HJx hoiiiii.
utreiil 1111(1 iloni'Vi
inj^ in tho full diil
iii|)miy, us it (.'tiin-
tii Aliintrcul.
iiriilioiirt lor next
ho (i|)t'iiing of UH-
cil.
HELLIIOUSE.
L'EB"
'cm'icr, 1854,
lilli I'Cijiird to the
will 1)(.' ncoessiiry,
acii.bly, tlitit you
!• burthen, power,
r Memorial of the
Lire in the matter
3E0LY,
yeeretary.
)eoonibcr, 1851.
1 ulf , whioli ful-
1 to the Questions
deemed, in some
?, you iiifiirni me,
aj;e, iVc. To the
list i\'i\'r to Eug-
e iiialciii!^ vigor-
aiiditidii to th.;
oi' the iK'tter eou-
•■ to the Memorial
ith niueii anxiety
lis the heiietieial
tiie iShaiehokiers,
nut of tlie value
he subsidy itself,
> trouble you at
iritiiin during tlie
iiy, ehiirteriuij;, or
leave to express
, in faee of such
llmt siinie irregu-
(ietermiuation of
'. lost in comuui-
LLIIOUSE.