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Let cartea, planchat. tableaux, etc.. pauvent Atre flimAt A dot taux da rAduetion diff Arantt. Lortque le document ett trop grand pour Atra raproduit en un teul cliehA. 11 ett filmA A portir do I'angia tupArieur gauche, do geuche A droita. et de haut en bat, en prenant la nombra d'imaget nAcettaira. Let diegremmet tuivanta illuttrent le mAthode. 1 2 3 4 5 6 w u . Welland Canal Commission, ARGUMENT (»!•' J. C, RYKERT. Esq., COUNSEL FOR MR. ELLIS, SUPT., ^ HKK(.»KE A. F. Wood, Esq,, Commissioner" l.'lTHplbVKMHKK 18S9. '^.'^" ....' ™ ,. .'; -.,„:;;;;;: ,;::; r :;;""' '-r ■'■ to Mr HvL-..it M,- , . ■ ''"*''■''"'*'»">'!<. on.t a Si, uinfs ;™.fl :,u. ,■■",",:: :: ;^,r:; "'"' •";";■'""• •■""" '■■ " ■> expense whrM wouM l',- eutiilf,! hv i> <.,. i i . .>. '"«i nnonifr th» MR. -^I'^-'ALLl'M - -F c^ni'' i)roiiai'«(l 111 jr.ti, ti ., THE COMMISSIONER-! .ould ... ,M ,o have v.nn h.l„ „. th. n.-r., ,r 'iifiiiiiing up. Ill "lie ni^>T»i ,)( MR M binelit of the puhhr .>iK. MCLALLLM— \ou have the evulcnci' m.l r ,..,.„» » ...Id what 1 .ii,I pn.ve, an.i von .hall ,. th 1; vb the di. 'ir'7 "'' '° ''' THE COMMISSIONER--, snppo. .„, o.L. t . , ' ^ ^uV. Hke t ne a.(k..l in your pointing our p«rsoualJv s,u h po.„t. as you col,l . I? i , . . vourevidcnoH, ,„d I w,ll t.ke notus; and ,f M R vkmVelsrto LP ^ ' ''^ to any point, l.e thtnU ho ha. .nad. on hehair of 1, Jur s^M T' "'''°" rha, ; hut I do not prop., to assume that e,,hor v ur a^u, e / 1 '^:' j" a-guni.nt. IS goiuf? to he corrupt. I do not n,ean to ,JlT ^'''"' a..^v.. „. th.. eviden,.. , propose to .j:,:ZZ:': Z^r "T "^, " ^" ""'1e.-.tann why you .shouhi ir,aist upon its he.ng „, t yp.> ' " ''" '" -MR. M.CALI,[-M~My un lerstan iinR wh.s that Mr' Holl,nH > ^ereand take th- argument down. '""'^ """ «'""« '" t'*' THE COMMISSIOVER-I did noi ,„tend fh., »», ^alled upon to pay ^,00 si.nph th.t I „lh U b nlf^T'"""""' ^'^^''^ '"^ t.v,.. I could get the l,e„..H, without thrStonL apt, •■'""■ "*^""""" '" MR. McCALLFM Th- eviden,. ,s beforf vou an.l I , —e, ....port. , ,„.,... „o n.h, ,0 .av von wd n. „ T ^"" 7." "'«'''• * riih COMMiSSfONEK- This deeimoa of uum w« ,.«.,-h«d after l.ar. . , • Md I wrot.. you immediately. " '*"''"*! '^•'■•• MR. McCALLUM-1 got your letter yesterday. THF. rOMMlSSIONEK-I »vi.,t. y..n Kifoiiiiinff yon .jf tlm fmt tliiit the «(ivi'rmiii-iit j,MVf iiif to uuili'i>f.iiiit tli.it in the ^niimiin^' up it i> u iii:it«»>r |.ii mv nwii iiiiliviilinil |..r,r»n,il liciii'tit iii.i il I mi ai!liii.^ to takf tin iiH|.oii-,(l>ilitv of ,' Ml Hollaii.l to ri'|i.iii lli.' •ij;uiti.-iit tm mv l.i'ii*>lit, ;it i st m( Aioo, \t \, nil ukIiI. MR. .M< PALLl'M— \',nv wfU ; ymi (an mipi iij> th.if ninUd Von hm ;.. • tho ivultiici ilii'iv an,'o :\ st< |. Inttli.'i, \'m '•III) ^i« on .MI{. TiVKERT — .Ml. .rolmsiun uili take 'li.iwn tlif aiauiu'iit MR .NIiC.\I..LL'M--i li.ivf no It-cliiiij iiIhuU iheniatli-i. THE lO.MMl.SSluXEIi -Voip t..n- is imt pluasant. Vou mv I . an go on. OtLouiHc I \vill j;o ■111. it I M'. lit. ^vitloiiif .i.s|;iiio.-e, foi his bruclit, ami tot tho hcinfii ot'.Mr. Elli.s; and thai hoped he would hf here at 2 o'(.lo. k to ;t;(. on « iih his iiifuinciit. f nnty statf that I ivccivi-l a Itttd from .Mr. -McCalliHii, in whi' h Ik- dc. lines to pioec-d «itb his argument. He thinks h... w.is not faiilv treitc I in fli.' matter. an>l d.-. lines t( ^0 nil with it THE rOM.MJrfSIONER — I m,iy state her.- that I intend to avail njvseli. h.toi, I nmke out my report, hy j.pplyin;; to .Mi. V.u^i- \\,\ any information I niiy eon.sid.^i ne-essny in rfteieiici to thi-s matter. WhciiHei I apply for anv inloiination l think is of sudieient iinportamc I will send a copvofit hioc f.. voii, s" that v( will know p.xactly th«.' (^in!stion an I icplv from luiii. in I I shill pidhihlx siipplv Ml. MeCalhim with tin smiK.- tiling;. I rp>,'i(f very imieli tint Mr MiCillnn shouhi have felt hurt at anythin.s 1 shoiiM have siid. fioin the fa( t tlint i,i\ (in!'- olijf.^t in i-'fiisint; to have it in typ( \uitiiii; was siinplv t ?natter of iconumx .m. saviiijf ,111 exp('ii.si» whieii f i'oiisideii'(i iimiei essaiy, and I had no i.hi th.it Mi Mef'alhim was ,so excei'dinsfly anxion.s to ivacli the puhlii thioiiffh fh- tviiewiitin.' And now I I all upon .Mr Ryk'it to proceed with .i!i\ ivniaiks in wislns i mak( 111 (onneetion with this matte- MR RYKERT- I reirret ev,..,.,!>, .,,!.■ (i,;.! m, v],., .,,11,,,,. „ i,,, j^ ,. ..,.,.j. ,,, , makt" these charges in the S('natp. and who has lieon the cau.se ol tins ( oiiiinissi.,: hcing issued to iiiako an in(|Uiiy luto the tnamtgeirient ot the Canal, should have ,, 3 thelftst mimut .1erlin«d the oHVi- whirJi von m..!- i i,.. » u r.".t...| ,„ h.li. II., I„„ MO ,H'I„ I , , , '"■"'','"'" ^" '""'" »"•' arKim..ntr«. -y tnni.n.iiv. „.«, ,0,. i.Hv. ,,„ „, „„',,'', ;"•;• '";' ' ''""^ ' ^- 10................ ... ,,...,,„ „..„.,: .:.x :.:;."": : ""'■ ''•"■" ^"- "■" • --'. I "". .i-'i '" i..., .......,.,„; ,,:'C ;';;;": '^\''' r ' .1.0 i..,ft..„. .f ,i.e who),, „„„., „. ,i,/ ,';:;' ''"^•"■""-""" ' ■ «."-^ H. V.H. t., ...ak.. tho.,. ..h..rv,»tio.... b,.,nn.r J ..,M.„i . . 1 ^"' '^ '*"' '" "■'''^•'"-.lv..l .... i..s n.a., U..,.i,.,„ ,,,/•" '' '°"« — t''^"".-. or ti.. g.,ti..:.,. ..n.h,c; . ; .;:t:; ,.:" : r' '"^^v" '"r "p°" ^'^^ '^"^ -M.-.UO ,h«ul,l be ,e,.civ.l' ... „., . ' i,; ■' ''" ' ""' !" ^^''r' ""*"" -• "- ^i-.. -.a to ,1.., tuk.... ... the evl,; .,;,;'' TT'" '" '"' '"^"^"»- y.. ^.i g.. .t .....,., ,0 rL ,..,r r;^ ,;..^;: j;;;;::!^ '--^-^^ -^^^^^^ .l'us.> ,.xi.„„|. how ,n..l ... what ,na..ne, the abut '' ' ' '"'^' " '"'^ .Mv..,.i«-.ti„g „.,m,.rs ,„■ ,.Htvuaeva„.es tir .r '^^ «''^«'"' you.- .nquirv into •'<|..Hy .su,.en,.t,.n,i..„s 1 ,:,.„«i,,,,,, ,„„ ,,,„,. ^^^ '^ '^^^ ■ EII.h o,- h.. 'l•' "•""^■'vr.l-aml I have no the l„t„re imu,(,nu.m ot th,. .a„-.l ., ' ' i ' ""^^ ■^»8K'stio„8. as to i.iea that Mr. MrCUlUun . on!,! 'av 1, u * *".'>n.enee,„ont F ba.) „o I 1 iiirii]itly , 'Ii.it if tlipv !i:uj inailf nii.Ht^ikvs timt ihflv arte, in.itti m n'llimi'v imt ullii lin^' llic iii.m.iv'i iiHiit (i( t' iin.il. iniifl'T" wlii'li h.iil l"i II .iisp'iM'ci lit \c,irs iiiro, nuriy nt tlifni l'\ tllr ill [I II tllll'llt, .Itllj lllilttiM> III |l||V.ltr L'l II'VIIII '■. wall wllirl) V'lU, >ir. ll.lVi' llnl lliliji wliitlevor til till . w i;li wliii li tin- (iov iimiiiil, I iii'iy -lay, iiiivt- iintliiii^ to iln, iii.iiiN III' wliii'Ii )>avi' Ih'i.'Ii |i|i'm iiti'il t'l tlir f i«vi'i iiiiniit yi'ill < iigii Mini {iflKsi >l ovi r ill (HI li" t ^tli-iKf. I Miy I imtiii'il In, III th< vciy loiiiihrinfiiieiit tlini that w.iv tin' iliill nl ili'- Sciiutiii's I'bsi'i'Viif iiiii>. Si>\\, wliat t!iH imblii. \\t* unximis Im in this j^iwit mniiiiry was tn kimw .il! •ilioiit the ia.ui:ii;i'nii-iit of tiic catiiti ; aii'i I liavi- im •Imiht you nutirni. Irmii ili ' voiy noiiiiiii'tK fimnt until tln' ilosf nt thi- invfuiigaiiun, mi tlic |iiirt iil iln- |ii(i,si'i u lion, that mil lOii- sintjli' i|iiosiii)ii >v;i.i \>\V U> a witiif.ss iitioiit tli»' Uhuiiij^i'im-nt nl il." laual ; iiot oiin sin^ilo i|iicsr.ioii whn .'i:iii h H ni.itli'i. Nut a .siiigli! witiii:sM wasiiski'il thf ijUcKtimi wiii'tlu'i ur imi thf cannl w.ih wull or luopt'ily iniiiia<{Cii. That i|Uf>li(iii w.is i-ntiioly i^jnoH-.l. It wu.s within hi» province to liuvn hiouvhr ixj't'it.s Juir. imii iifalnlitx !Ui miiiil liam tonic ami tL'^tili^ll with ri'ganl to t hi' iiian.ijjfim'ni ot the canal. Not one ul' iliiin lian been hnnijht hero to qut^stion Mi. Kll'.s' iimiiagcim-iit ; but, on tiic cuntrai>, ijnestion.s liavi' hci'ii aski'ij, ami opinions '^ouj^lit to he nbtaini'ii, t'roni persons who hud fcfUngs of hostility towaiil- Mr. Kills, uihI who wi'if not at all i oiivci>:iiii with tlio nianaj{i'nifint of the caicil. Nm^', .is I s.iid, tliu rountry had a li^dit to expect that, and von Imd a lijrlit to c.\pi>ct tlmt, fioni tin- pio.'^ci.ution; you had a right to know whtthc- or not, Irnni iIp' cxpiuiciio- of imn like Mr. Sh.inly iUid olhciH, .Mr. Ellis conducted tlii> cmil ]iropi'ilv. '\'oii arc not called Upon imi would the (ounliy th.mk you to mvotigatc a lot oi ..liarguM of a j^iuieU pci onai churactci', wliuh had bctoi explotlcd _\cars agn. Xow, aunthei thing must have stiuck you duiiiii.' tiie iiive-itiKation— th.it al! tljer, aic of a stale i h.ir.n tir, dating l>.ek to 1.880 and ISM, di.'wn to tlirec or lour years ago; hut not a singh emiuiry h.i-. been made as legai'db tho niaiiagcniciit of the riiial ; not a >ingle euiiuirv his hien mado about the troubles with olhfial.s in the last thit'e or four years ; but. I ^.i> inuttiTS of an old character, which liave iin bearinj.' whatever on the management i4 the canal, liu'e been brought up. 1 am >oi'ry to say--and if the Seiiitor wcie hiii' 1 would make the same observation, although I would not wi^h to s:iy anytliiiif rtflertiug upon Mr. McCalluin one way or the otiuu, or upon any peison, if I eouhi avoid it — that there .nppear.s to be -^onn thing personal at the boitoin nf thi.-" matter, and can come to uo other condu.sion when 1 look at tlie .-pii.-h whii h was rehiie.i to you for invrstigalion. and which, 1 bi lie\i'. wa.s your naki'd iustru. tinii> THE COMMlStSIOXEK-Yps. Mil. RYKKRT— ^Vhcn that speech was referred to thi^ ("oiiin i^>iiiii loi invsii gation, one could not fail to se,j that it was purely a privnte matter . ihal, underlyiii;,- this w hole enijuiiy, tlieri' was a venom and spite mair.fcstfid against Mr. Doniare jiartir ularly, because he would not employ Mr. Mossip. MlnMMluo„,.l,M...«.,l,a,K..,.h,,m...iIya.|,.«n. I ,.,..,...« ,o ...U. . "•• '7 '"•":''" " "- l-^". -"' ^I V,.,. I...«lit,i. M.'m.p,,!,,, . . "'"""' '" ';"'*"■« ""• '-""- '" -"•"«'•.«....>- M. EllM ,n .he s..„„ ,, ^^lu.lusl..,l,n..^,,^ak..,hu.M„1.,„v.,,.ll ,s ,1,,.: ,. ,•,.«, ,.,. |,„ ,,„.„,„, , ;....nK .,.,.,. ,,.....,,.,1 U,,.,.„. Mo^ip ,.,„„...,, .,„...,.,..,,,.....,,..;,,. '"' '■■ ''' ''^"'^' '■' "..,. ,H.n.l,..r „„.., .,„ ,1,.. w..t!„„| , ,..„Hl. I .,,.„,. . ""■•"> I"t'. '■■ .-!. I'll.s, Sup..,iu..n,|..,.r o,„... u„al. ..kin, hi,,, if h. > I,| KH. flu. •u.u .„nf„.n,.,H .•.nplov.uru., an h. ha.| a 1h«.. ra„„!v ,.. ,„,„.,„ | ""••• ''■•'»'"» '«"' '■""".V. l>s>. «,v„,^Mn.. Ih. „....o,M Khv h..'-.,ul.| ...t .uu.l,: :;';!^„"""" '""',?." '•"'■••"- !->■,. ,.,,.1 .,„.,,..„ „m.,, .;.:'; MrCllmn n.a. .•. pul,l„h..., in ,h,. ,Se,..t.. „ p„,ts .., U,,,t .lu,.. .N,,. Kll.s hn. .-u ^ _ ...nplv ,hat h,. ,ll.i,.„,p., ,,.,1 «..n..r;.I l.oaring ,..,var,K h.s !..„. |„., h. ,.„ ,.. •v., ..„.. (hat at las, „ 1,,..,,„„ ui.h.an.hl.. ,.„.l .ntohTalio M.. 1,,, ,„.,,, „ .j,,,, , -a.ul Wie thoroughly a.v.ua.ute.l vtl, ,).. „,„k, „„i «.■ a.e anuou. „". k...,', -huu; and a Ithou,-!, Ik has „ .v.d ...veal w«n.,„ps.„ ,1..,, ,..,,, ,h.v h.v ! , I .av th.. wlK,l, ..,,n,.iat.un uf ,1mh .n.,,mv a.is.., „..„. ,|„. „„ ,„., M, ni„ -uh ,.ot ...pl.,., a.Hl kuc.p in las ..,..ploy,.»..u, a ,.k.u na„,.l M..s,s.p, .h... ' . M. McLal u,u .ay.s .k .. vou... ma., .,r «„o,l reputati,.,. an.l ...ha.v.,:,..;, .„.i ,,„ jfisoi. an «l,ouh. h. ..u.plov,.,! J» ,lo^, ,eem to ..u. that Mr. M-Callun, „„. r h. ■ .-.. .U.H.h.,1. .fa„y p.,so„ , o..l.i h. satisHe.l. h.-fo... h. .h,. ,, LUZ^lCX' M...MP was „.-t a ...an ..I su, h a d.a.a, I. , a,„i ,epu,al,o„ an anv .uv, , „„.:,., , .; I,i '■u^Vloy. .(ust lot. u.e po.ut out here that the.v Lave Wn callrd upo„ M, M.CaUnu l"half tw...,ty w„„essc.H, U, tCMtily as to tho .-haracte.- ,.f .\f,. M,,,.,,, Th. ,- . ■. . )g!,t ot ,hc.e who hav.. s«.n„ that h- wa. a,. agr....ahh. n.u.. to «...,-k m ith. hut five n .. ,h.. ...ht have .wo.n thn- his .oputation for h. i..g of .. .,.,3„.H.„,„e .lisp Li l>u ua. ^vdl.kuo^M. tlnouf,! ■. . -h. vilbK- of Poit nalI,ou..., wh-r. h. ,.s 1 h- ot iHT tuolv. w,tT,r.s.>. hav. unhe,sil..tu.gly sw..,,. th.at h,- was of a ,,..an..N.,„e w.uM „o^ work w.th h„„ ur.,1,., any ■ i.- un.staua.s; but ,h,. ...n.r.l ,,«„cv,.m. .t .- hanlly ar. ..saiy .or ..... to ,|„..,.t ^.n,r atu„.ti„„ . I„„ ,.„„ will li,..l ,he,„ .on ..^..c.ng at, pa«,. ".N. an-i ..x,...n.linH awa> ,lou ,. ,o p,.,, „0,.. ,.,.,, ..„ .,„ « . ,h , .-;m ",1! hav.> „.,M.rv.,l that, duri.,;; th„ .onauot ,.r,l,i. ..,„|„,,v ■, 1.,.,. „nn n' -...•SS..S ..11.1 >,. M,. M..Callu.., hin.self hav. ..n ..nly , ,on H,,. .l^ „ Z h:' ' :': '"'^ "'':•" --;'---tion. a,In,itto,i that U. .J, , ...all , ", ; .>l ...... as..o,.„.,...l wa , pa.ti-.ularly as a wo..ki„g n.ao. Th. ,,.. p.^,,,; ., . .. Ins (avor onlj ..p..ak f.o... thoi.- k-unvi..,!,.. .wM.in. ,.,,,.. M hv v,,Hi,,. vnh'i.. '■■m, two to th..e.. weuks in th.-. ......rs,. .,f thrn. or fo.u s..,.,.. ■ ,1.;. ;.„„ . r . -r... said h.- w..,.k..,, with hin. wa. .onn.hin, Hk.. Jt ;;::iX:iuZ >....... .. rhn-e or Jour year. As ,a, as th.. prose-utiou . , .uc, ..e,l. Ly ^ .nt,r.ly a.le.l to ,.,ak.. out any proof that M,. Mussip w.s a .n a wo.tl v. ^H. " uodrbthty. or a n.a.. worthy of being etnployed upc. the ca..al. T.ke the ev ic . ai ' "';;'",;":• r- ' "•"'•— •• "'^ '--i. ....i ,i,„.« wh.. i,.v. i,...,. I.U- U ... u urn, .... .lU u„M I.. iH. ,u«K-i.u,. „Hl, „„i ., M.u. „.,..« m,.-!, vi„|..,.. 1 « t,r«t ,,..>..„ .1.,. -,...k.. ,„..nulv u,..,. ,|,a, ,.„iMr u..« M, l,,iKv.tv. „l.o. :., ,.„,.. ■■: • :"•*;■ ■ • ''••'^'■' ^''"' I-'"-'"" •■ ",. . „ ,.„. ,. V..,; ,,i...«..„t L... ""' "" '""' "'•■•'■■• ""■"• « '^ • --itv to, ,. ■ II,.., ,,„„. ,f ,,,., ,, , ,; »H.Vp, -In. s..V..;il> , ^Mf.lt .I..11! ilt tilli.s , '''""• *"■' '^ '" '■' '•" '"'"pi- ■'• 'I,. ..,..1,.,.,. wiM, I. u,. |.,.v.. I.,.,M,.. M. So ' '';"" '"; '';;'^"'"" "- -•«.vi..K .,„( I.w ,l..puf.y M,,,. un,i.„.lu,t., an.l a „,,.,. «hu,., „ «. ., .,,., ,., |,.v..„„,ki„« «i,|. ""'"''"'''">■""■ "'«>l..-w.,.,„„i,nuliyl,r I.h« ,l.-..o„l ,.„.„„;. tl... „.,•.. ,,.,.„„ -.llN ny...K I.. .11..,! s„,k..,. i„.|u,i,.u „.,.. r,. L. l-v.^ .l,.-v „•..,•..,.„, M.ili,.,. nth '•<""""'al..,| I,. ,l„. (;„v.., „„„.,„, „„l, ,|„.,...„n., .:n.sn.ui,.s,.l,o„l.n,.r.,.,..^>.i,.-t a. .m.n,-,...M, „. «lu,.| v,.„, .,. ,, „,,,.. .■..i|,lo\M.v l.,h„ „ill kMnviHtl.,.,,,..,, .l...u'w,.u.t|.,„ir,. ispoKMhi. ,„|,,.w.. V.M,.Mu-,ak..,| V.I,...,, or, .1,1 Mr \Iui, vJ.VM,,!., Mmu. „ .^ruH.-unu w.ll k..<.«,. „. tins ..,„.,ntn,.n, , . livinjj i„ iN.r, ,l)ill...„s„ |.,r .0 ,.r ;.o y,.ar.s.. .... v...,.loy..r .,f l,l,or . 1.^ suvs \u- w',.,,!.! „ot l.av.. ,„. .U.U ,„.., :u ,P. ri„.., yon ,.,ay fak. Mr II,,rvoy S...'.., , ^,-ut\.mnu .U> vmi,l„y.n^' l.l.or: iu- >;,y. " I ,|.. not want ,.. ..mi|.Iov s.f,.), ■, „,,,,■ V.„ „,av follow ,t ou. .in,i t.k. ih,. .liU.r,.,, „...„ wl.o have |...,.„ ,„ll,.|, ,,,„., ^,.,„^ ,,.,,;,. ^m,.lo\,...l Uuu ; ii,(.y all s.y. an,i In-ir t,.stin,ony universallv to the lact, that h. ,. nut ;. ,.m,.vr limn to he .n.i.h.v,.,! ..1. the .anal. Th.-n we hav- P ...tain I arlin a jrentleman also w.ll.kn.-wn in this ,.ou..tv : h. snys h.- is n nmn ),. wouM not Imve Now. th-rc wi.son.Ml,.nf;«-hi.i, «tni-k n^... wh.ch I thought wa, v,rv nrhri on the part of .Mr. .M. (Mlluni : that wa. an attemr-t upon his part to h.^t;,. upon -Mr Dema.ethes,„n...tha, h. h.nd h,..„ ,,ui,t, „, ,,i„,, lanff„,«c al.out Sir .J .hn Macion .1.1. whi, h ,1 h. ,v. r.. «niltv of usin«. .w,a« totally unworthv of hin. But who.1 we come to ox .inmn vliat are the wor.ls use,i upon that „r.,.asio„ a. allcire.! to have been u^e,l I,y Mr. Douiaie. nc. oniiiiK to Mr. Mossip". .tory, that he was a Utrty son ol a hmh : w« have the nniver.sai to.tin.ony of everv witne..s tli..t that is h„ooai,„onex-p,e..sio„: .vvrytnanthatha.. neen sworn, who h.a.« ,mv.„ to.stin.ony wu regaul to lu,n, says that is his ,.o,„n.on expression, -.ou aro^. .lirty ..„ o, a biteh. .N.w. Mr^ 1). ina... has ,n«t it fairly an.l s.p.nrely ; he ,h.ni..s ,t po.<.i,iv..lv ..ys.t ,8 no sueh thin,. He .ays. -I have never taken part in an ele.-tion. ami 1 c..n personally bea. te.tu,e,.,y t„ that nivvell. R., h,a. alwaya trie.! to act impart- . i'" ;■" ;7'^'-^" "-"'l'l''.V' '- to the hes, of his j,ni«n,ent, an.l I think vo„ .ill .omo to hat eonclu«iou when v„h m.ke your report. But tint this Molsipv,, dehhmtely telhng what is nor true m that .statement a.hnits of no -Jonbt. We Jo noi rely alone u,..o,i T.emare ; wv h.ve . George ^y. Kead, a g.ntlen.at, well-known in the vomtnnmty, ot f.stabhshml reputation, a man of honestv and integritv H. s.,v -Mossip |.,hl h.ni .liMinetly h,. never hea.d Den.are make ihat observation, but th;' lie had hear,l that itemare hail said so. X,.w, theie ,s a wiines.s, who voluntarily wrote n.e a letter as soon as h.^ heard Mr. MosMp s testuuony. an^i I aUo que^tioued *r. Mos.sip upon the point. So that '"■; ■ ' '" "■ "' ''•"• Ho;r, , Mill. ,, „ «..„rl..„.,.n «|,» „.,.-. !,«>,. ..v,,,...! ,. Kn.., «''!•. M.|...-s,..,, ,.,„.,. v„u, muMi ..M . ,M,tl, t.lli..^. ,.„.,,. .-. „„.,. «h.. Im, ,1m. ..,„.r.. c..,h.|..,„.r,. Mr 1.,.,,.., .,.,1.„1„. |".„.,..«l,.,|„.v,.,,.,r,ol..,,.„l.h. .u,U.- Hk ''"""■""•'V';"^"'" ^'-'i'- t..„..iv „„.„ ,. . .,.,i,.v,.,., ,,,.,, „.u -.•«to^ .n.ul.n.,I.M,.n.u. n.M.n,. f|... I:.t,.,nn,- ,„, n on ,|... .,.,...1, .,..|, ,1. ..-r.,,,.. •. „, ,„ .h..>,.m.l„.,r „..,„,. „„. ,„,„n,.sta,.o>. ....ive unv (,.v.,. nr ,1k 1„.u.I.s oftl... n.. r,.,n..„L I took ,.,, la. ,«.• li.s. ^«:^u,. it U ,hc lonu,l,.„ r f\. .-i,.,, ' T' , " ""-'•"•^""""'' «""- -s u, la- ,1, „,,,.., : „„., , ,„, „, ,,^^^ „,., • o .t .„ ,v,.nf V «■„.,.:.,,., ,.,,llo,l hy M, .\|,.,;.11,.„, b..,o to.ti„„.nv f, th. fr,. t ,l,.r 1... „ a mill iiiiiii ti. In; (•m|i|"-'jc.l up.m th.' i.inil. Xou- .,k«n ij. ronm.uoi. ui.h ,lu.t ,a>.,.. M,. MrCalluni. ib o..le. to .sl,ou ,l,ar 1.H .liam. ,.s ,„,vl.. out. ,1m. 0,1.,.,. UI.M,, ,M iK. .ays. ,vhilt. 1.,. ,i,...,.v„,. ,l,,„ o.M,.,v..r.ro.v,vl.,.u.,,,,,vn.u,t.v,.n ,|,..y, h. Mngl.s ou, tl„ ,„„u. o, Wiiu,,,, 0.1. , .1. ..miinr |)..ly, ,. , „,,„ ,,,,,i„^, ,;.,.„^,^ ,^.,„, ^,^^^,^j J ^^^ |__ ^^ ^ emp oy«. npon ,h.. , anal o.io ,l.y lon„r Th.- l.onoraM. ..ntkui.-n 1„... spe,'., « Ml.., .I*al oi Ins t> .u. H>,1 the t.u.c o. the , onn.u=..on in i..ve.t.,,ati,.K th. .umUu.t '■' th.. ni.u J.ily, .,..1 I ,h.,ik r.n „.us, ,.o,„e ,o tl.,. ,o,K.lus,on i.v .ht .in.. I . .^>.thorow...,hurg.. whuh b.i ,.i,.d. „ U ti.t a. ..,a.,i; ..s,,.blH,i.,« .l,; >1 . D. In nt t,,,..;, «. t. .,..ox.. at.:.i . l.u, thne i, o„o thing, l,.,von.l nil ,,uo„tion, wl. h ,. p.-r.d .n tin. .n-.u.ry. that during tl,o ti,n» h. u at work h., i. not u u., « hat , har,n.o.-. Mr. Kca.I has sworn that upon „n,. o, ,w„ ..ca.ion^ he n^- ht lo . nto.xn.ate;J. Uhn, n.k.i by you to giv. un ..plan.fon .hont ,he wo,d orunk o,. n.to.x.,Mt.d/'hocomd..otdoit; b„thrK.,esonto«,,y. 1 ,1,1 „o, ^ d,Mh,,rg.. h.,n. although I knmv I on«ht t. d.soha.';;'. bin, if 1,„ wnre drunk I did no lonsuler he wa.s so niu.h into.uatvd :ukI imapabie of ,l„chargin.. hisdytic. t .|U ongh. to d.s, hn,^p. l,.n,.' I'.ut vhcn «e .on.a to .xn„..n.. ,nto the ,n!t,e . mt e lurthor wo have tho wv..,.who!n,i„g te.sti.nony oi u lot of gLntl-incn ,,rr,oni who hn.c worked with him. who all l.ar t.lin.ony to the nui.o .n ,„n , "^ du ' t^.^ ,nan wh.h. upon tn. work, although it n.ay be his niisfortun.^ whil.- oU' ho wo,k, toiiesonietnnesintoxirand; but, sir. I think von will .dv. ,.,.,d,.,.co to tlL tostnnony of thcso .Hrte.ont gnutlcnen who h.vo !.«.„ .all.d upon th..s .nnnirv who tho ,.st o, tl.cncn upon tho wo.k, a n„,n who could Ke-op up his .nd ui.h ,h. othor ,n..n wo,k„ig on ,h.- .-..nal, .John Mun.d. nn. of ,hc .o.n.n.n. t....i,l, d to I ! good ..huac.o,- and good conduct, and d.si.c to wo.k. ...d willi„g,eHH ,o do mctv- tungaskedo, hwn; ,.nd also thu .a.t that uh.tev.., h. wa, askod to do l./d d ethn-MUly: andwasasoho.-, industrious, an 1 h,..,;.work,ng n.an, and that he had >.ev, r soH. hnn drn^k on duty, Mr. Lci.h spoak.s well of hi.n : and ul.so Mr D-mar... It ha. be.n att,.nn.ted to Iv ma-lc out, and I ..hall aliuMu to :t sLortlv- ....„k y.., v„! ,:au- no :.«;t,u;on ju coming to ihu ..onciu^ion that, so far as Dalv IS concrrnc.d, ho wa. a n.an who cllicientiv diuha.-god his dut^. .n.l nood very hil m comparison with Mr. Mossip. I u.cntioued VVrlliam Daly because hn Mn-di !,£ 'u, ,^ ) c nan. alw.. .11 other., who have ),..„ ..,nph,y.,l. H„d ho is ,h. o.,. uho,., .. .u.l.ntly .,„^h;.l „„, to ,„„v. .hargc U, ; l.,„ , think v.. will ,.o,u. „. ^ .nh,..l u, .l,..luM.,n., A oss.p, au,l .v.using .okIv.. hi,,, ,.,n,,h,v,..ont an ' 1,„„., • as..«..,.lsDalv, who .a. si,„l,.., .... .,v M,. M,.,.!...,,,; . tl,i„k vo,.;.i,| who zealously a.,.i faithtullv disrhaip.,! his ,|,„\ ' Anothor pom to whi.h J uish ,n .ii.v,, unn att,.„.io„ l„i,,l, is ,h,. ta.t th., ".'•• ''''■'^""""'' ^""■' • '- -'■" -tiH. ,■,,,1 of ,i,„ ,„,,„;, , . 'h .n.xu,.,.„st,..,,.,io,..ith,v,a„.; .,..1 in th. -a.lv pa.t of H i,; ,. " Z , W.1 m.ol]e.t. . ohi„cto,l to that ki,„l of ..vi.len,.. h.J,... I k„..w i, wo M " ^ ^ '» ti"; .;n.l .ha, M,-. Mill., .a. .,.,ga«e,i u,,o„ ....st.u,,,,,,,, ,hat ail th 's .^ '-uplatuts w .„ h. ha,l ,.,a.l.. a.aius, M,. Mill,., ha,l relb,.„.. . ^eU ' ^ >uu tr,uc M,. McCalh,,,,, v,.,-y !„„i,.aly, .v.-.y lat„.,„le, upoM his .nvi„4r vo,; th. Uuna,. „uh„ „„, |„. „,,.,,| „^ ^,, ,„,.^„j,„„. ,„att«r that vu„ -onhi not dis,i„ ;;a. ,..a,.a,in« the .pai. at any tnne ,ave ,ae any .a*:.^: ^ ;:X:E:7 apply i,[,on construction, and allowed it to be paid to,- l,v ,1, . , "^ '>t'""S ^u ;• jh,,. «.,..„,<,. ,..« „..„ » „.,,, „-.,, r t;: ;l;.':;z ;?"''r 1601. , 1 kon furtluT o„, at ,,ag,, 16S2 ■■ tl„ tinR. .a, oareftlUv comi.ire.l ,f ,1„ ! ■■!' :;r;; ""rr"" - "'"™ "■'■"" '^^^^.^^^: maiKeddown. ^M''- t>eniare was .^mtc too particilai-.vith me at timn. ' T^ page 1605 "kept the tun. of the .„.„ sepLate while t'L' o:ie pot o"," I hat ai,pcars t. hav.> b.en oae of the g.eat \nwh,;u: of M,' AT P.n ' the tlungs upon whi., h,- ..H.d ; that^u.d U.^.:Z:l,l, tt ^:;, ^Z:" hall, and the band wa^on. Those sc-in to hav., h,...„ m i , ^, was not justilied in making any arcn^^atioi, so t,,. „ fi '" would attach any blan.e t^M.' ElMrT y U. "''f ^ ^Z;^'^^"-'^- -'-L had nothing to do with it : that, while th ,• ml"- " '" ^ "'''''' abontthoti.ncof the ,ncn. tha; it l>^.t^.^::J^'Z^^::T::^^^^^^ l.sl.ed that M... l)en.a.e paid fo.. nothing on, of .epai wl i f .1 1 ' T charged to th« constn.ction ; and that Mr Mille, ,,M V J'av« been cunstrut.tioii, ' i -m app.joa tu Tbe next point to which I shall refer b, ierty is that of the band hali It In Mem to me it is hardly worth while- " ^''"'* 1 lit' is tllli (llio ulllllll . yni wjll .•oiuc to • Wlis was |(i'rr'Vily l<>yiiii,'iit any lnni;i^i ; II. I think voii will iiii M(.>,>i|i, (iii,( „„,. ielh is fill" ta^'l iIi;h luii'v. lias soiijt;!it to I iiivi'^ it WdllM rollio mil It all tlics.' (iitl,:rt'i)t Since oiitirely to his Jivestij^'atofl Lv you :i liisyiviiigyou the i Mr. Ellis and Atr. oil louM not distill ni to ask ijutsticri-,, d ,vmi will sec now, >':\, tliat .Mr .Mi'- uiiith liail iKj light i.s ilear and loticIu- ikc didiijeiit altera o control over him. 'c.(\ raising the lock re in their capacity inie or anything to repair department \-chaiig6(l." rParre lUipared at the end working was duly times. •■. Then at : on the lioutouii." alluiii, and one of tlie gui, the baiid- ol' the houorablti , I think, that he concerned, whicli ler and construe- i« and .Mr Detriaie ' iiiisapprelieiision and cltarly estali- shonld have been f liand, Las at no {lerlv applied to tl Ijall. It doi^n THE COMMISSION KR. , .,„.,, , ■;, ,,, ,,,, „,^,^ .,, ,.,,,„,^,^,^^ ^ rLa;i'^U.;iS^t: --'M.U.....ban.,wa,,n.Uo. M\i. RVKKUT -M, IS^,. h,,,,.,.!! >aid th.t he ,,„.M „„t ,,. ,i,at it wa, rea'lv a liaiid w,-,Kon. W.ll, th-u, th,. ,1,.^, ..jia M.vn, ,, ^ * '""" *^a., ui.ly •l.aract,r; M,. I,..,„..„ u ,s , hii^cd «i ' ' '""" '''"'"« • . , 'iiaigH.l (Mil, li-iving, v,.iv inipioiM-ilv, taken uviv l.overninent timi.ci, and raited it to Welland I ihink 1 1, „ I l •xplanied to you by M,. Den.are and h,s ZL " "'" ^""^'^ '-"^ If wa. also attempted to ta,siBn „ Ml. KIlis .son.ethu,^^ .v,o„. ,„ ,„,„,,„, , ■n;,,,5^.:r::r:;;i;ji;;-,: :t:""^:;; --;;-;:::, attempt M.ade to ..how ,o y.u, ,.i,, ,,nd u, the department at Ottaw . tiiit ' ,? was not onlv u.nvorthy o, the .oti.idence o,' his en.pIoveiJt ' ' "T'" «ett.„g ptcktu^s, and a u.iinbe, .f , hi,„s like that. x!,w: Mr ^^^ . " ^ t" speech, relets to t,.,, ,.,.,, f ,.,,,„.,, ,,, , ,,„^,„.^^ is among .l«"'o,/"^ im.k.ngs. -It looks as if he was getting a lot ot piekitigs " is o„ , '' /' """" complaints. Wh..ther that refers to th.. ,nal and l.inZ; , „ , , "'" '""••'"'"• -t !<' ■ ; but so far as that charge is tnade rh Oe ,■ • '^TT' ' ''" Uovornment tor his „w,i pcrsor.tl use, a.id .ti/ J " T' "*''?"' ''" -hat is ampiv and suHicientiy -net by the evide ^e f V t,uTTT ''""' ilistinctly that Mr. Lntgley told him he did not know whe e I,. : '?r"";' but. as a matter of fiut. it eomcs out in the evidence suorn to M d1 T"^ self, at j«ge 1778, and by Mr. Hohnes, at page 17,^0, that Mr )e, i, ,"" '" the house in the ..11 of 1^S5. when the id was jmte ;.;;'''" T tl>e time, lieyond all .juestion, in ISS.".. At that time it w.s H ,, ^'^ '^' .nd Dcnare occupied the ceti.rc l^-iiaing^ a^t^ I ^ ^'^ ^:i^;,^-^'^''y^■ ;-i - '•■■il^'.^nn. was cotnpelled to keep hi. coal in a sh^d " : t t .';; J"^ 'J tlmik vou wtll come to the conclusion that the,, is nothing in that e ,ar' ^ U e conn; to another .jm^stion, wjiieh I do not monose t., ,„.,!, t upon...I nioan in reterence to the rubber boot "l^Z I j^ hha t""!;"" i.a)lv ilisposed of , tiiink the evidence of Mr. Page, and .h ' t ^ "h'*^ '''''' H.nl Mr. Ellis and Mr. Miller, all go to .show that the tubhc. o . , "T' ubieh should be investigated bv you. it apphes whollv to c^Z^o::,:T' h.< been a large amount of valuable titne wasted in discussim' tint t l ' ."• tl:e rubber boots. Mr. Page gives his reasons tor il :":d i Kc^rTu"""'" -li-tinetly, at page i,^7ti .nd the following pages, that Mr Flli, 1 „ J ., ''' '*■*' ever to do with it ; he accepts th. whole'^Ajibi i I L!^]^^ - .".what- to the eonelusion, as 1 have, that that .nattJr should have be', "dtt f 'T inveRtimtion. *"' """«ohr,\yu rljiit tljelc. \v:i- ■Mi'. KIlis lor r.cifaiM ir tooh, So tli.'it yo»i il-'ed nil that jioniooi , ■Iii:'.-f men liiid woilu-n '"It I say tlic- Icainou liavc ai^witaini'd tho II lonifi forwafd and i.'oniiuissi.inoi- shouli-, 'Mitsido tlio loiiirai't, "g biiiiriintciidul by acting undtT iciiairs, ion tliar, n^ regard's lur .Ml. Ellis or Mr. "■operly bolciigcl to ittnr wliii'li you were the Government ha,? to on.fuiro into the •1 gi'^at puldir; work ' "ot. I think it is V whether .Mr. KlhV INI'. You might sav like a roiuluctor on Von and I nii_:jl,t "r "ith a caihllf, to ntiit on, vidcnoe that, while ic'r,« wjio think the} s one whi. h I eould iji havf iinvcr ,£;iv en !-''.'iiis n Very trivial o"- Mr. Ellis was 'I to put upon the )0 Mr. Pa^o says: I was trying to lind 11 -nut -ho best ,^n. I (o, th.l.niks I, |..M,u.ssarytohavesom.lhiMo„,-,h.. l,i„d •■ lor the ,vt,nwa>h.->th.. bank, awas,' S,, ,l,at thai .s another nutter d..|„.nd..n, ^ Ml-M Mr Kills „u„ ,j„.!u.,p 111, aii.l It apiH.a,. to l,,,. ,„„ with the apvioea! of Mr Ii.l;'' at llir 111,,,., but it turn.d ,,:,t iiii.satl-^i'aetoi ,-, Then, a,-, repaid, ll,.. trees on i|„. .-aiial. on vUii,.|, .,„,.„ ,,,,.>s wa> laid bv» \1, ^'■•'■^'lluui, ,t tu,„> out thai a LiCm- v,a« r.^ived Ironi Mr. Bradiev. of l-bruary ;'■';•,"'''■ ';•'":'■''■'' '' I-''-' '-'^^ "' • 'i''""''-- The letter is put',,,, wh,-,,. M," l.i-.,dl.\ authonze.s .Mr. Klli.s to ex,HM,d 81,000 tor thai pi.rpos, \ou \li M.Callun, made a «reat deal olTiis.s about that, and .iuiiii^^ the eoui,e of the inves' n-afiou mad- a remark in ivr.ren.e ,o ih. manner in ^^ hhh he had ..,d hold of that evnene,. : and 1 .as M,-uek with the .,b„ rvati.n made by vonr.ollfwhi.^h ^^a. ''I'l'i";^ '!•-•> 1 "'»,k, to the whole o. this inquiry. The la„..M-v von usid, sir. was m,t, I th.iik, ,,uif,. .tioi,^^ enoii,i,d, ; it vnight have b«en .st.ll .trons^o,- in view ,dtl,e <'!"""•", .V""l''v.n|.o;, ,hat ,lass of te.stimony. Now. 1 ju.st t.iok th.- libertv „| .e.t,.od,ng honi page 137 what yon said in loll.ence to the anony„.„ns letter; uiion ■Ml. MeCalhim eompb.uied that he ivceivcl a good deal ol hi.s inhmnaUon thro„.|. ..ionymous i.tters, you expressed your disapprobation of .uch mean, of altaekit ■•'■■ '■'•'"■"■•">- "\ ;' P^'>'iu^ .-llH.rr, and eonsid.i^d that too mueh credence .should m.t >.H. giv..n to ,.y,demeoo,aim.d ,n that way ft struek n,e verx foidblv at that tune, and I take the libe.-ty of quoting your language in rele.emo to thrs enquiry genera ll}'. ■• TIJH COMMISSIONER-I trtay say, u, addition to that, that ,he snb.s.qnent -videiue wh,d, )i.a,s -levcvd itself Jia. eonfirme.l that opinion i„ iny own mind vvith velerenco to that class of information received in that way M H. RYKEKT-.Vow, the next matter alluded to was Mr. Ellis anu the boat h,,, ,i ,■ was e..,loyo,l uhon .here was a gr.at .rcsh.t hor. some v.-ars . t.^i^^^ liight, 111 or.h;r to prevent dan-cr and tioi.Me to U,,. canal ■ ih.t tl„. n,.. ". .son,eihin« in the .ha,,e ol' refreshment, and they -Tt 't , T which wa. charged a. uork done U"^ "^ ^ ^^r, '?" ='f "' '^^« ^' '^S^'' return It as It was; but Mr 0'\..ill w,> . n . i , '"'"'•> '"'" '"">. a>"" ~t k.".wa„,.,|„„g„,„Ub„„°„ " '"■"•■1-"- 'I""- Al .,,)•,.„„ I,. ,1,J business man may enable vo.' 'o mak. certain s.^r T^ "VFnonce as a beneficial to him and also to tne c :^;C ';:'CZ Ur S-^"' "'"'' '' en>ployee,. sliouM have the stigma atV el ^.i/^ Jet "■"■"•'"'■ ','' weighed or measured, or that they h.vu tlmLh tl i '^ ''aye improperly den^uaca the Government, 1 thi k s ; U^ ^^^ the.rcareles.iess or ne,li,enc., to be as go.>d a system, as far a« check, i "uc rnec? s .t TI' • T T"' Mr. Walton. agentle„.„ inspired w.t/a„ un.i: ^ e H ,' ^^^t, ^i^^ Use f,ho evidence entiroly Ic I'll 'lllt\. 'I'lial yci'iii,-. '"lit -Mr. Smiflj and Mi it lines sct'in to lilt! tli;ii ii|iiin I lie iiijmfatioii <,r Jim ill i^hnvji<- (if a gioji I tVoiii l)r^;iiiiiliii/ If. cm! lllC.'lllO.I, tu .llillnjo Jiiii, fit vcKetalik's for a m1i.iI, iifiirlo Siiiitir,,rvi(li'iir, fully <'oiitr,i.li(;tt'i| hi.-, 'I'belioi; aiiil you, >h. 11 1'tli't/tnally ilis]i(i,se <.i ii;ti'il hio tnvincr stato 1 "itii tVit/iulb niitsidi' 1 liaiill\ ..■nlii,. l„ till- ill tfiitlickiiiR wirh the voithv or-iiiyooiniiieni Li.iviinni; It i-mployou:. you that Mr. OXeiH '•ears ago, wiwn it \va> miiilmr tun during tli;^ hat tlie 111(11 rtquin:d iw-galioii ke;,' of higcr, II? i«tunieti tor that, thing. It would hav. arely and fairly, and Jans of making ihoac s, H large amount ol or. At any rate he did ircf'uliy youivself, and • ma tier uf till- hooks ■ books— and I wouM 'i; beeau.se, on hehall the eharacter of the : uiaking his entries long e\}icrieneo as a hinj that would bi r. Ellis, or any of liis liey have imiuopcrly ;ssne.ss or negligeiicr, Hitrary, tliere seein- be obtained. Now, ; against Ur. Ellis, l'"Xlu;"ll;u''"'" "\-'-th.^arn,ter to weigh the iron. I sontotimoH I uugh It «l,en It eon.es in at four oHoik. 1 know the work I have ordned and •;:;;::: rt7;'k "" ''" ' ' -"""^^ ^^ -ightomot. whe„ , L: I>n.t.a la, job, I k.Knv .nvrv ,,„und of ,„„. there .. in it and the cost of it I Hi I i.he k oil th. ,,„.,,,. ,, Hiey , oine uito the yard." Now, there is a ...ntlenian I ^luu^ o, a e.„.in ,.,,,„., of this woik, Mi. Vanderbu.gh, whose ev^ene " "t perhai. «.s conelus.ve on that point as .t might have been, from the fact t he «as not alway.s n. the yard, ..ys ti.at nh Miever anythi.ig ... ne in whil ■ wa heri. ,.e properly weighed i, and examined it, and eheeked die aeeount ev • luh hen he was no, th-re he left Mr. Holmes or .Mr. De.naro there. We 1 e , ■ :K>.e w, no>.es. both of wh,„„ testi.y to tl„. laet thar everv dollar's wo -. n ..ken into that yard was either weighed or measured hv whoever handled t A >1, ,ns M,h.„ee, and the mann. r in -hieh he explained the J^i.smes. about the """■■';; ' ^'- •;"■'".-'■ •" -'-••' '.^ -l-olished .h,. .videneeof Cnlp, who!, .her -^ iully one-hall, a.el then omM-nth, and th.-u two.,im,s of m t rial i , l^" . «erap iron ^^.nt right ,,..1. as new material. Then e,.. niav take Mr. Dei ^ - -..r and^.n,th.sev.denee: and you mu.st eome to the eoneli.ion that, o fir .. tha eheek ,« coneenie , there has h..,.,. a .beek upon everything going ut am •■ - hingeonnng in; whether it ,s in that lensed shape that .^mhl l^ sa s^ .1 to a stranger coming li,.re, ] am no. prepared to say. 1 think, probablv with .^our giea .pidgment in those matters, as the employer of laboi. ai I eniplo^. o --'-• oi people 1.1 dillerent eapaeities, that yon niav, peihaps. be a. r nn k ■-^--<— '"'hat point, whieh may be valuable; but, I think von w.I ■mECOMMlSSIOXKIU-Imavsayhere that T think th. „uestio,. of pai,. > ttl, d Usell. I do not think there is any need of going into an a.gu„.,.nt -n hat 1 o.ay just s.iy It turned first u, the ,nalitv of ,he paint ; the ^..st. , w, t raised as to the titn,..s of ,i„ p..,>„„ j,, paint, but the ,,ualitv of the' ,1,1 • ■'7-"-7-?!"'V ''-^'■^••-'-'^''-'b..otheniana;m..t. ,; ,^^^^^^^^ not upon the,p,ali,y ofthe paint, but upon the „.. it *■ t" ^^'"ds tu, ncd, ,-.pird'''' "'''''""""■" "'■ '"'" '"■"' ^'^"'""" ^ ' ^'""'^ ''- "- -tistaetonly TlIK COMM ISSIOXKK - If we believe-as we must believe-the tLstimonv of Ml' foster, there is no -luestion of doubt, stimonv of MK. in-KKKT -Mr. Foster is a man of unblemishe.l reputation in th. eitv .>bu,si. won! will go as far as anybody's. • ' And Mr. Ellis ,u,d holidiu-s : it seems m m. ,t „ hardlv wo,,h while ^avin. H.yrh.ng alio,,, that. Mr. I'agiMn h.s ,,„aint and ,|ui,.t wav s,.em. „,, " ' ^ ^' '■' -.'">■ ^ '-Hday, thongl, ,„. „,,,„' takes a holUv bimsid, " '"'" • niKrOMMISSlONKi; - I .an se,. nothing wrong in Mr. Ellis' holidav. in iii'i:;;'^:;:" ^-••- '''''''''■'■■''---''■■'"•'.'■ -o. number ofy,..: 14 MR. RVKERT -Th.n rhut mattor ..f RHis an.l Mio travnllin- oT,,6nsr<, sl-o I'll ii'iim-.'i Ml. Mrr„| ms tr .'jS^OO. I iv.iiit t.( |wiiiir our t .'lltllOlli'l! I It' I IISC" th^ find tli.il iij Mr. Klli ilori^ tlic <> vmi t. .^' HCC'tinit lie l.w VnU '•x:mnu.; .till 11-^ i''aiiiil. itiiili.thcr ixiM'iniif , t,, ul iiui'sfi.iii ,il„,iit il i> olli, ill rc|iiiit. you Ul ■d i|u;irtc.i, .tiiil t.ln; lior.^c lni Tlii'V ill.' III! p.i.s'.s, ,| hy til,' Au'liroi- fn'ii.ial iii'ii Ml. M.0,,11 1111 tak will liii.i, will 111 (.111- part of it. Kills ;:?i'ftiii;,r his $75 ., tinl oil tllP SIUIIO |llC4c 111 tll.ll i„ ''■Xi'(.|itloh fl ic^ SI Tiitiiiv an. lint, tor livriv, Foster ami otiiurs lowaiicc, ,iiiil liil.iu that tli tli< vi,!,'iiaitio of the Anilitoi-JU-iirral, wh So that that has st.ooi| ih.' f est o say, i'S|.i'(;ially ii|>on oin sid,. of politi. man to hi' alji>' t Now, iir.vjt the Vaiiderhur;,' inatfr. Vou 1 not pr..|.aif.(l n. justify Mi. Vaii.lHil.mv' n, rl iliicth Mill that Iv i'.\|i!aiM('ti J tor ; I think li<' \v;i oiifTinally hy Mr. Win,'. Tin s sonunvjiat iri('>;ulav 111 that larLfiM;,' toi trips th;if hi' .li,i Hot laf was allowirii to l;,i iMIt ll|. -piainiisitc, likt! in..nih.is of P.irliauu'iit wh. things '.I fh.it kiihl, uhiih ail' luoktMl »'is t.'uiploy. .'IT ; it was hioknl upon as p.issts iip.iii laiiwavs. ami oth. a ri;'hl to In into pai. ami thr i,'o\('riiiiii'iii shouhl pav. Id iip.-n as ]>. r,|,i,sit,s. II,' .;on.si.h'r(.,| he h, .iiiy .ithcr pi'ison's ,ir, cunt in that III'; I do not know, pi'iliap.^ I ndiiht ivf Wore iniich in ih at all about that. 11 rt'sp.'i ^. .tl n.)t SI'.' any inv.'st).,'ati jH'ili.aps that may b,- rlii- on I'l' to i.'i persons ir s.iinc fiositiou, it [ ni„'lit'r 11 IS., to di I'l' ..■r.' wl Tlifii about Ilnini' and tiii' \i c nwcais .iistiii.i,. Mt. Kills ha. I'Ui Ml. Kills kuL'w iiothiiu iiothiiiKat all to do with ii. bv .Mr. EUi H af,Mra-st bridge, fliat uas satistl I'lolllv .lis ,'lir to pay. Mr. Di mm: say.i JU' was ba.llv tr.'af.jd and uia,,h. t.i pay for 1 iiiaro has sworn thai the a noi'L' than h fiiriiishtHl to llunii', and he .li.l n.it t.iki I'l'ouiit, was niado out in ditail inv t'X.L'^iiioii to It. At anv 110 (oinjilaiiit to this .lepai'tnu iit. wh.iv hr had hi.-, i.nii d r.iti.'. lij iiia' Thin tlu'ic is the Met w. a iii'oai'l inioia .'a.se, whirh is a trilliiiu matt.'r, whh) d it uistnuati.iiis Mii-owu out that Mr. Ellis have hvH dioppo.l bv Mr. McOallmn logulati.ius, mid it was not hdlowpd bv Mr. MoCall 1 appears t. mil : uiil>. lad tri'itod liim nufairly. That Biid^'c ,it Lo, k 10. Til that; and, instead of men b.-in/,; employed t it apj-«ars they were simply, durinj,' . oiistnut eie ajipears to have liepii soiiii- iiidihiiit... 'I'Videiuo abuii' lo wiUK one .lay ami undo it tiuMiexi. ion, -aisi.JKthe bri.l;.;,, t,, ^.t the lev, ' H feet: Hud they had t.. rui.s.' it up a ..rtain h.'ight. so that tl nii.Ieineath the hiidj,'e .)ii tlm alnitmmi 1.' mi'ii .'ouh Is. Then the s.-.ni that he paid for i'\ Si. till re is Rii :,i,''ir. IJraill nothing in that. i«y swears distimilv ami Ir tor the governiiipiit about that ti eiythinjj; done upon th.ii. It nij;ht tl iil'l'Mi 'ii.'tt 1 le w.i.s worl thi li that has b.'.ri referi Hit. a! any rat.', he swears distiin'tlv that 1 II wl t.i her,' that he ili.l tl ink, IL- UOI Then th npoii that poiu' 'ill liml litth' troiih d it wa'- tl .'.\t I'ase is that of Willi nn A.--. ■h,,i lere is ii" i|i in,:; the servi. mbt .Mr. Kills has vielde.i i.i tlr d Ih. 1 1! le intiu.'llre (il •'Utsii a v.ry 'dil man. Ill Ihl 'i' .an I for ■as.'-i wl]. i. in rewai.i 1.1. a;iniethin<; like .'ifi m 10 ;,'i'ow n iiilmii an. ,1 II' .llS.'ll.llJ Mum I fl 'hi- .-itv- ii'on rnK;ii^'d ill t[i.' .h'jiart '■ ""-^ ■! 111'-.-' ii'-:"i io tha! .fhir. an.l h. il his ilntiim At th '.ho ft'!f that Mr. Wiiham A- men soni" ie.,i-m(iuii at tlui h.in.N of th,- i II li'i|Ui'sf of 'Heij was .h a ;aii; -ierviii:.' the matt.'r, i.iok up.m himself to aliow thi- man half iivi mill. .lit. Ml. Kllis. alt.r ■iiiisKlerin IV, ami .li.arn;*. it to repair iW, til Si;..' fli.at hv.'il. ha.i .1 |ii-t .,r 1,1 ll.l 1 la partiiiB |.'\fr.'inpnt N( IM.ink alter not J H.' .1 ellK" Irliink .silting Ibri. yoi or at fJie till I r.i me lliii .Mr. Smyi Itaon.' fled U^uiyvh Wl I knows til. ur the \ la.l f.) time irh. h md lessil bi'liev.. it. Then hi-'<;iriiiintr ha- i.ome I • ^.ild thi 7 •JO, -'r, ■ linn I.. I ill the ri'sl Then lliE MR 1 oiifi.m . X,.w, IS .•.line : '!i i( he wo ii» w.iiild i; olliiit; oTiioDscs st'oms t' till' i|iii'8ri'iii ;ii)oiit il, ^ iillic i il ir|i.iir VDii \\\] I'tlM, .ilid tin: liiii-sc ]\],, • lIl'Uli takrs f.xri|Pti(il; ■■■ pau'' III th.-it lioiik y.. ■I-, .iimI ImIdu that rill I i.it hii.s .stood III,. f,..st , . i-'ll is siiilicllillij; fijl ail', lillly ('.SlibniiiMi, J ;iii '■^ tli;if h.. did iM)t p,i'. Imt li,' "•■i--> oiiipkivi «'i^ looked upi)!) as >"ii railways, and utlu 111' roll.sidcl'cd In: ll;;. >' '''I' any iuvi'sti;,'atiri s that may be tin- oi,;. till hi;,dit:r iiji hun- wlm II- Ellis know iiotliij., ii« at all to do with il. itislacUiiily di.sjHjscd ■; ' pay f>)r inorc than h, rnad(! out in diiuil -mi.. Ai any ratu. hj nias- d.li.'i', nhiili ajipcai's t- -^li-. -MoCalliiin ; uu\\ faii'ly. Tliat sirins t.. hdiliitr .;'vidi'lli'e aboir iind undo it (ln> next. '>ii'l|:« to ^i.'t tho lev, it rill' ni.'ll rnidd wni k ; ill that. he oiiirlit to know that hi.' uav \M-iikio_ I'ai.s distiiii'ily that ,, iii'l it wa-- j.aid toi 1.-, P ol thovc pasos w'l' I ■ 'i'li' pi-ojd' in It-war.' I'd in t^ii' lii'partnii'i;' lit! I'fllcc. and III. ill ; u it'i|Uc6t ol a !ai:, AsHidl wa.s di'.serviii;.: li.s. atti.r 'oiisiderin:, I'hai'^'f it to icpaii'.s iiiw, as far as that gofis, T point out f "iw. that ho iiad iii>vci' lucn paid t' 15 O V f^it, sir, and produrr the dooutnoiit.'* h 101 |i to lor as ,1 111? that t>ositi position, and arfinc in fliat fajiaiitv. Mr, .\,,soll oiiiuioii nifsisHiitrci ; fliat \\hili ly month as n i omiiion iahon'i Uy Mr, \v, '•< luimi' had hoi'u attach I'll, had hi'Pii atraihoij. first to tho I) 111 ; not with th« vifw of ininilli. li^i L'ov "iiiini;n t. hut it It IS till' liioM i^ri'iniii},' till' piyr.ii.nt oi kr '"• »VV Ml liiKWir. l.v Mr Rod and, n.'Xi to th, ,\,,updiKt list. |!i~t or last list '■oiiv.Miji.iit \ia\ ti' I haii pinu it hid iVom tli I'l 1 Dining into tin. ortii.o. Mr, K law l)..|.n bi'ttor. ai y.n siijijiasti d. lis hi a lalioror upon the tiist idojM' that, and r think, hIi, it '.iilini'nt and htati'd how th(> hu't il' Mr. Kllis had at h onni wviiti'ii to th |.i;ri'inpiit of tbi- canal I Miink is .sa Now, the noxt niattiir wp 1 Ilk, si yill^' a j,'ood deal ou hi.s own testinioin, ji brie or that he sold him the privilege, for all t 1 denies ]iositiv,.|v he i. 11! '.\a.s not iiin the lid I at the time ho s.ays ho invoked the bh inii- to come, ol riirnishing wat I til me that he was siraiuiiig his i '^■, ' recollei ■t 'I'l lionias Hasti Imii fill them. ; p.iid fi in''.s took sour lor Ins v|, were hi ■p: pel -on That So von must ronie to th || I hem by him. .Smvi stmie steps to mv |i|,-i s own, am 1 s"eais, .ml I 111 Hie ivst of the ih l■OI|^'|ll^||,||. ir^'es to whiei I h tli 1 1 ave ri.'feried so f.i thai (1 pai. Ill IS 111 Then a trivial ehiircje af;ain about Mi, .■'iii ai hi.s rilE COMMISSIOXKK I think that MR KVKEK. 'V IS ll.'lldlv '"'■iitioii III 11 a pailful iif p!a«tei. lb I'l lulls ch.irp'. le senator. iwever it ^eeiiiid to ati ■.i"t the Vi ■hii 1, wi I mill, to ini'ilb..'! !n,-i!!ei. th.it i.f forward here, and delibiiateh ^wm Ah! II' ;■ ,1 nd .Ml "oiild lend hi II that .Ml .Sill VI m a certain amount of i ■'Uiuii Ahbey !• upon condition noiiev lui ii» u.'uld increase the pav for his horse. W •' specltic tilll. ell, now. the \>h„U. boi stilted that I'lm ib knocked ]lU } IS out of that case when we ascertain the fart rhaf !,« «... i dollar a.ui i, half and flmt n«, fi > ' ''°^'' P'"* f""" t^'* ^>0"« .n.i that up to rhatr ;;:;:; r"' r' ''' '"" ^"^ >-^*" ^-^-^ ^'>- least, not L- n.anv ; ar ! / o's Jr 'I'T, ""' ;"''''"-^'' "P"" ''" --'• -utra.licts Abbev alt^Kh.r h . i J !",""' ^' '^". '' ■'"^' ^"- ^'">- look. s.r, at the ..it/;;:; i„ : ::;nrnH ':;" ^'"^";.""^ """-^- ^- Smyth swears thn same thi„<. i, is .,„ , . ' """""^' ''^ ^'H ''^"••>f >' dollar was ko,:t by Mr, Sn ■ h Vrr..nr J'"' "*"■'■ ''""" '"""^ ^ "'" ^ -'«' ' Smyth. an.l I .„. satisli,:,] ho .'tWi , u. , s n ""': ""'-^ '"'* ^^ *'' against Sn.y.h nh.ch n.u«t ,,. „. , : ^^ „ ")j" , ''^" ^^ -'""- "''-. Booth, Mr. Bra,lley. and Mr^Kyan uJ t ,,., ^ t''^ ' Tt""' ''' documents show it-was SI. r,0. ' ''""^'^^-and the othei. X"' ^ «tmnce about that; but what ar. t'he ^ i; "u^' f' '" '"''''•"« --"o- .l«liberatcly swears tha- he .ould ,,„,,rv the s, • \ ' ''""''" ^"'''''''^ «'"' deliver it at Shriner. bridge J ,^ Z d ' V". '" rT'''''' ''''"^' '^"' statement that it w-ts not Tone .r i "'"■" '"' ^^'^'^ "'"l^ing th.v ti.at my predietnm;:;;;^: ';;;::: ::,r^^'?'"^^ Callum, swears that the priee pa.,1 to out " " ""■" "'"' ''' '"• ^'' ' 15 years-.,Vo,n 1. to U, yearsithat th i !^ i" ^ Z TT ^ ''''^ ''^ ^'" '«^' Btone of that .ualtty was ^..00 to ^5.^a if t \ '''V IV'T'"^ ^""" *''' ollrontery to stand up here and swear he eouhl .1, . ' , ' , , ^ " "^ I"" ^'"' subscque.tt evidence, is shown to ho a ,,.dess m ^ "..r • ;'''''"'-'' '''^'''^' ''■ ho eould .p,a>,v i, for .*i a eurd. I s v i i ' / ""' ""'•'^.'"' ^''"^ evidence, San,uel Bovd, Hetnv Carter u.d 1 „' 'I '" ""' '''" ^"''■^'■'l"en> g^tting no nn,re than a f.,r priJe „:' li;; ^ e ". tlt^^V'""' '"" ''"*''' "-■ useless and played out long ago; a„d „,.,, u lllX Z:Z^T' ''^^^^ Uuahty, tit fo. any purpo.se at ..11, under anv eirenm f ee V 1 ,?' ''""'^' ?5 to $r,.,0 a cord. Tl.,.,, ,,,|i,s ,.,, given e'^ "'" """''' ''"^^' ^" !-"> I-*^^ ^-'''> '"■ ^ '^ that u, eonstStatio ^^uTlCXo^ ""V'""'- '' their mimls the.^ uould close i, „,, |„>,,.„,,, .„ ' \T ' Ottawa they made up oftheexpen.se. ' " "" ' '""''' '"" "^'"•.^ *' '", on acronn' Then, with n lerenceto Rohejt Simn-ou • I ,lo „ , ^efernng ,o that. Sin,,.,,, has eotuphZ: ' ' j„ i ^Z^, '' '^ "-'^ ^''"''^ Mo,.ri,son at the a,u..duet : and we have show,,' I J' I ', '"'"'"'■' "'" ^'' j.ulgmen,. As \1,-. M,.Call,„„ .o„|d say ii- ••|,o t""'« t'M'^»ss a prop,., rather hug... ' ' '" '"'" ' ^""" .^•""•■^" pio|,ensities we,, Then(he,e !,Ms!,^.,.„;,trivi,.l ,i,a,g,. .•,,ja,„s, \i, kik, :„ stone monuments. *" '''.'' '" ^"'""vtion with ,^om„ I I nly paid for the hors« eeii for yarn ht-foip tli!) ^•yftii upon fbp csnal, all a .lay. Mr. Sniyti 3 that SCOW; f|i,,t, ho ha; I'xMit this niniiP3. . Hi- n'Xliiii^'at all about it '11)11 iH.'fwven Mi. Siiiyd' |||;ti hark; not a slug!- '!< ii' 188;j I think, .sii. "''■" liiiriy met by M. that is auotJitii ehai^i ' In Mr. Wahon, M, hoiy(s--an(l the oth.'i,< th('f,'ovuniint'iit, ijuarn If I'l' tliu tabic. It h;.. Of other, that the Go\ t'liic. a)).l niucli hfvoihi I ill making a rtnion •l ionics forward an.l oveinnjcnr (jiiarry aif •11 hi' \va^ making' th.v ; and the lesult show- i('.s.s lalloil by Mr. M( lii-t! ; that for the Ia>t I the average price f,.- ^\.iiton has the cooi 'I :' 4'iarry, which, b; i'lilt to work in, thai 'I'l'l the aubsequeni «h,.tt- That Battle wa- •oveinnient quarry i- stoiie of any averag.- '11 "on Id liave to pay ill IT was elosi'd. A' Otiaw,, th(\ inadenj. nrv ii oil on aeeoiuT ■*■■ It is Worth whil,' Hie londuet of M, '^'^■''ly, that he was :< iines to ()a,ssa propn "" propensities weiv iineetion with .^oniM an a> alte„d by the .inploy.vs of (be ^ov, ,m ,„. M,, ,, N, n .w, L ,o ,1,.. a.iil Mr. ^n,3, b swears ,o,|H.. an,,, bin,, ,„,d(,bink von will, on,, " sioii ibeir IS lioibm^ m ih.K , baig,.. Now, astotho wall at llol,l,.r., | ,|,ink iIm^ ihiit nii:("UMMlS.Slo.VEH -Ol, ve-. AiK.HVKmn; i ,...,;. ..nVm'tb u -o ,be ,,..,. wbi,,, ... ,b,.. „„., :::';r;:t'::;!;:orb; :,;;:;!;::;:;;;;,.';;:;•';■:•'■, •■'--'-'^ •'"' Tl-n, keeping the ra,. .Lar ot i,, ; M, x,,,,,;, ,.,, ^^^,„.„ , I reeled the .statement towards the end • he savs "tl„ <• 11 breaking the „ ,.,...': T' . ^''" •■-■•■•■■'"""' --■-.■ ^P-'nt one I" the roiiilii '■ll-^''l'''ni,t..,,deMt of ,b,, ,,„al, "-'• '" < - conclusion .1,,; c, ' i""*" ^''''"' ''^' "'• ""''"'• ■V"" •""•^' '-" that second It n '''""r" "" ' ' """' '"" ^"■''"^' '"">'"' "' '"-'" ".'^ ...ills .n,;tr u :;a :': r^';;::^- ' '"•' •" t'" ^^^*^' '" ^"^ -""^ '"• Merritts evidet.ce at , J ' ,«2 '^ "' " '^«''•^ ""''ry that should be done. Mr. i till, ai p.ige .062, I thuik bears t lat out coniidetciv At., v .iisnex-piaine.l that, and Mr Vecloi, \i, i- "' '''"il'ittM\. .Mi, > orris eiiiplovinent of Mr Hodwell ' ■ '"f ''''"''"■ "^"^"•■^ ^'"'^ "''"" '-. the >''<^«'. ^vith reference to .stone masons and Mr llustin.'s- M,. t.-ir . tliat he made a bargain with Mr H . ,; ' ' ^'^ »%"' • Mi. hllis has shown n.n.i.h,nasonsatwSr s ,. tnf' ^' if ' "' '""''"'" ^" "''^ '^"^■' *" H'-ting the repairs c rid..::: .' ) ? '^. T^T ""' "'r'^'"^" "' """■ •^^i.'iO per day for each mason Those w.n ' ""•' "^''"■'' '" l''^>' '""' i'-s usually paid at that tine, d n ^ I, "'"'V--- '''^o- vveiv the ---^'•^-••-'-.-Motn...rikd^^ n!i)!i aiii if^iMiiisiMf ro scr tliiit tl 18 IfV tl I'Vidnii 1 tl M'lilits W.iltcin's I'VJ. I''IK'<' Clltili'l "ii- 'liity vr.iiMilv [ tliiiik Mi. Elli Us nuMllHIlt ,1I1,| iltt.'l|,|,f,j,l to luitcii til 'IV hr iits ul an.v I It., «•(■ liiu.' Mr, JIiistiii„''s cvid son ; mill «<• Iliac tluir sintijiM Ml. Il;,sti, tli.'it I, nil. I 111 bill . >ii Mr. Klli. I 'llM li iv.> r.,iUi- t..|«;iii| aiiiiiii iiii.|i'i.-.taii.|. .\i 'll.'.- tint ll. ,.||,,,l,,y..,| Wilkiiis,,,, ,„|,| Tl, iiii.l u.. li.iv,. .Ml. l;i,|,|| •III. I |.. iSllll-i ill . liKlf., Ill uhi.li thcv Miv (I r\ ill, 'II 'I III. II III 111. I. ii.il ..r ..lit i-y uvi.. .'iriploy,.,! I. •"I.I l!..^',i Ml!!,.,-, ,.vi,|.|„ wh.ii (li..y liiiiiisl, skill,. I'l'IINOII. ,11,. I ( iliiiik .,,, Vdli tin.'.' (.1 loiir III, I, t. ;uiilii;j 1" •iiiiU' ii|"'ii tii.'ii ll. It 11. u III yoiil iiwii l.ii iiM,-. t M.llnl i;il \\..|-| hiiv. .III. fi)iiiv.ileiit lor it. Tl vtu ttill ti(;crilii.' I li.'il I-i the UMiii pi.ii.sililc I'nr ( ..III..C (I iar|i.'iiifi>, uijl ||,,t II' ^aiii.' mill .III,.- 1,1 ll liiiij II' ■■iiinliisiiiii tliri'.' i ;lll> III.' II. 'XI iii.ittur rHi':(UM.\ii.>^.>;roNKi.' - I -< iioiliiiif^ wroii;; ill 1 1 N I 111' iii|ii('.|ii, t ,iiiil til., li-lav. I lliii liiok.il lliiltti I .i! V. 1" ll I. at til" iiiueiitii.ii ol tli. i[i.)it ll'.l tl. tliut ili;i|>;.. I ill tll.lt, Jiiis.sil.ly, th U Ilik'liI 1 ivc iiii[i.)itaii.:(\ It iliil afi|W!iir to in vult iiic with r,.r,.||.ia,. t,, til..,! (1, I'l-t ■*■!) tlii- it it W;is 11' till- rliiiiuos w.'iit javo liMu (I u.iiil 01 liuaiiii.' the wli (:Vil< 1 1'Uaoimbl I'lKl: ill 1. r.,l..||,f! tl. til.lt, I tlllll.k- 1 piopoi ..'ili..i..i|..y thi'i'e ; but aft. tl e ilLirt,'!. miiiiitaiiifi [ U-'li.' le (iviilfn..^ th.U f c'liulrl ii.,t ii'inarkeil to rli I'l' 111) siu he siiM no, liu \v iis.suiiiL' lie was aiixii)ii,s to U' Xlli'! II of tllO.sr ill I IIS not. I c'lii s.'.' Ill) possible I'l'Duml for il triii.'il St'iiatoi .'It ( I.'OIIVI, t Wlfllnllt |V,|..,0||, ;,1|, is riiiplov, with nut emk'in oi .fl ability, ti) ili.sifli.'ii-^ri; thi'lr iluty. MR. RVKERT-I tliii;k ti'stiiriuiiy. largiiij,' Ml. Elli.s, „i an iiif,', at li'ast to tliL' vi'iy b.'.'il of t! :ii'ii voii iiiii.st havi' Ih'l'Ii ,y li festeil by Morrison, tliat if ho erre.] at all it « Town, who .swore, as to tlu. zciil THE ro.MMISSlONEK -V,,: (l,,it if i as on bfhalf of tlii' (. iiiaiii 'o^'oniriR-nr. I" .'ii'r.j at all it bt'li.ilf of till- liovirriiiHiiil. MR. RYKERT- Xow was ov.T.Mutioii riv anil p;ii1 o thi Wf L'onif to anotlifi niattii i invi'sti.i,'atioii Mr. Howm- w N l.'lati.iii to tcinlci in Sti'vpiisson's t-viilf asmlli'il; and in hi.«t In til lii'e favored a I'ert.iiii .stovi stove.* ; ainl from \'tuir ii ileal It pag.! HM, they butli triei! to .show that .Mr. 1 I. Catharines in re.speet to tin- fnrni.sh I'stinioiiy ill p:igi':i,sl ;ii:- er HI ,S wa.s justified in paisuiiij,' that I'uitl respect. If tin; h'tter were to eonvev tl it, you iiiu.st conie to th .s.r\'atioii ill lefi'ienee to a letter of Mr. Mi'Cl li'arv s, ; fell to get this eontraet; but you i making that ehargi- was tl saetion. Mr. Hi Vour icinarks were perl'i'itly loriirt. in th; le ineaniiirr „i iiiterpiel.Tti.ni llist juit iipo] 1-011,1; was ilnne, in ok!. le "flitleniai toneliisioii that sonii'thing w lid not know, iioi .|id lanti.npate, that, tl le '.'ery pi'isoii mIi'i wa.s ''iiilty o rooki'.lncss in the trai w.se I'OiPe.s forwai'.l and swears ho loiiM not t.-nder for the M-aseott stove, lieeainje Mr. Lloyd bail the sole privilege of .sidlin- ties of Lincoln and Wellan.l froin tl Lloyd's testini those stoves in the r, ie inanufaet the manager, tli.'it Mr. H urer. It tiiriis out from Arthi rhe Oovemment ; hut lie went to Lloyd 0>V.S" I ■ouh not .sell the sti thrill \on tfind.r, and y.ju will p.,y i,ie tlo- oxtra d and said, "I will tender a doll ar liifrht honest iransaitii to; '11, and I think How.se had better not 1 ollar." N ow, that uas not itJmojiy. i think there is nothing in thai, so tar as Mr. Ellis i lave eonie ami given us tha Colieerned ; le l.v, r flunk Ml. Elli. iM h iVi' I'liiuc ruiUiird ,ir i.ililii"! illii|i'r,-,fui|.|. .\i I Wilkiiisni, .111(1 '|"|i,iiii| V tli"y Wvtv ,'it||.Ioyc,| I, »{■«, I- Mjllri'., ..vi.liliM tli'\v riiiiiisli skilli.; Ii''ii n..ilv. If si.iimIs t I ^ll|lcill«T-, uill II, ,f M II, '-;|pr,', ""III. I |l|,t. .i:,y tin, ; Iff tl. tll.lt, tll.lt. it was , • tin- ( liaiijfd.s w,-iit 01 t.i-ii;y there ; liiit alf. tlit-'iv eai! In; no .suri st'iiatur at the .lo.^.; „• 'ii f without na.suii. in i iiKin^' Ml. F.lii.s, m mi'. the viTv best of thiii islii'd with Muirisoii'J re, as to the zoal maiii- the l-itn-oriiriK-nr. it was (.iv,'i..autiijii d tioii to tf'ii'icr.s. Ill tj, -ti'stinioiiyat |iagM:{>niai *loklMili(.,S.s ill IIk; ti'iii; i'udci- ioi till. .M.iscoit. isf stov,'.s ill the i-,im. urn's out IVoni Aithi:. I mU soil the stovr-s |. Miller a dollar liight Xow, rhat was not, a : j )niu ami given us tlia Ellis is CullreilK'd ; 1|. A tiinit the tenders for nine Mr Hmt... ,. , , h. fen.lend for pi,. «, ; „j, ^ ,, , '" ' ; " ''■•^^"" 'I.V a-l ,l,.,ih,,,„.,,, „.at Hou,..sav.. page 381 ^Wi 1 n 1 '' . ' ^^^ " »" ""'"^^ « <"ot. Mi. l-re and ..tate.s, and J ni„d , e ,1 . ' l"" '"■'"** *'^''' ^''^=^'""''' ' "'"- -'- '.is i.u..„ „:',L' r ::::::•" ; ';^; f-' --• --:- ;'.i' '""' ^'-' "•^• -aore than the one suggested .hould t^ t!:^ tSL !:;:::";;; "::;; 'T'''' no such thing; at page I'l?!) he siv^ ih.f m . ^ , ' ^""t'ai'y that it is «o .,..« .hiJ „„. 1,.: .: 4 ,:,' V ,,:'",,:,'; .' ';;■"','," "* '■■"'" *"" '•• liim al alii lie >.avs he harm,, ,i„l.', , "•"""■ '"■" ■"'■ "«ll»" "I'VIT .ou.sulu'.l hiin^ H;„i,,;-::h;.rt, ;;,:;rt ':,;''"' "^^ ..ikii..„8„.o hiaadvh.,o„ a „»„„,,,,,,,.,„ „, 7 ' ' '."' '"'" '" "i'I"~ «I»n .«r. Elli. ■..,» .n hi. ,a,.. wr:,^r:;t;r.^'r ;;::::«r .!;t -' ■°'^"- arch over a culvert, he niitrht as w.-ll tilt f throwing an ;:;*•:■ '■'»" - ■ - -" '■■-■• - -■»;i;:' in:rr,,:;'.;:; Now, then, we come to the very celebrated matter.- - .....irg'tri!'''""™'-' """ " '•" "■ »™-™shi,> i„v..«„a,.„ ... MR. SVKKRT.-Tl,ath.h,s.. ,,„„„„„, i!::;,;":;;' r;,:";:: '';,:r:':f ;:,',"'•■'■ :'""'• " - • '»«- ■■'•■ ■"-« .-hicl, h. ,il.,,|aj„| ,„v.,.al ,i„„, ,,„,i „„ ,„ , '°".° ' ', '^" «">"8'. t.m|.e,. I- .a. .,.„„„ ,„i«.t.„ ,vhe,. he ,„.,M , , ; ■ , .,,^:;:;t'r "'°"' '"« '"'e^- /!'< uganift tlie long enquiry !(j !ii I tliiiik in ili.it , liiif. 2fl iliM ,\c.iiH_' Ml-. ('liirk.''H iliMth W!i> *^ill '■' ■ I" the .'iili.'llisinii til, It < fiiivil \n til.' KiiK hiT.it; ttniK'-l dcwii il ^^■l^. ridt. .IM>4 lli.U llrt'lc is rintllil' THKCOMMlssioMll; N,, Ml{. ItVKKliT ,\l ,.iiv iHlf tl nl.i h, i.| Ncai- Mtfcr il 'I'l n -I |(,tllii-* wciv .liourieil. I IS to w.i.', hot piilili.-ili.'il tiir t\ !i-' iii'xf |M.iiii is til,' .JKiif,'.' iillii.i.<| t.i M. ,,(!, II .111,1 >,, r,,.|iii.'lv l.\ Il • K'l" I'lllll'"! ill l>i'll|;||(''.s liDiLsc. Tli;ll Air. r. Iiriiiiiiit, .Ml. C.iin.ll, ,ii„| |),.|iiiin liim.vH TMK ro.M.MlssiONKH V,..s. I.S '■.\|plfM|ri|, J llillik. Iiv III.' . vi.|. I" M'li;il( nil Ml(. la KKI.'T I'l fllU llist illU'sl i.if is ii>> siirli tiling as >,"'tliii,i,' f\i< -;,.,. and II PU'SII..,, v„|, ,,ut «,.,s, •• It is sihiply IvrallS,- I ,ii,| „„t ;,|r,.|„l tu II : I, lor Ills J{,'|.s, u||;|t,.tll il III.IV III'. iMillii I i|iiislii.ii, aliniii KIlis aiKJ till' gas. In i| I'l' fliis i'ii.|iiii V it CI \ iw, wi I on,!' (i iMt ill .'viij.'iin. that .Mr. Kij ;k ii'i 111' iiiiii|iaii\ , II M' ' .11 IV [111 llCl' ■'.'IS ,1, ,111,1,., I I, ill, In i^^-Jt, .lllll tJKlt Klli.^ ,li,| |„,t u,.t liis ( 'III'' iiin ill < \itK:iiii' that III! I'liiuiai't hd't I (I't lllcl) .sji'll,.,! II 'iitr.ii'l \\a> .sif;ii"tl witli lli" linv.ri Civi' «"•■« until l.'iM ; tlial at tl ni'iiicy I'i'i' aliiiiiiii. vi/,, ?>r>.wn that ihcv ai ' ami othrr i-vi.l to the .stri' t rnii'.s of cvhIi'ih'c a.s hcloi. oil, Inn liav,' I any ri^ht fouiiii a roiiid'cting link lictw.'uii .Mr. Elli-^ ' fii'il tli.if aii\' [iiiviiic iiiatti ' thing th'ir ,i.tn;,ll\ aH'ii't^ il '•III'.' ol .-orMiiit [ii.i, tin ,,. 1 ,1,) not pi'ojm.s,.. to hohl Mr. .M.'Calli a louit; at the same tiim' I inii.',t hf satis T I 'roll" ht M|i Im-Idh' inc is a coniiiTtiiis; link with .soi' ic iiiatii'is iiii'lt'i- ronsidi-rati. III. Tl you sav. •■siijiposiii.t,' the ^a.s w-.ti' tunii'd ; f. II ai -.11 «1 '•t •J,..ilH. So ilmi I tliii.k MKitfi'i'of .jihi^iii,.),! (Ill Ml. !■; f'I'lIlK Vl'hM'lM it, tj,., ymi Hill niiii. r. '" |''ti» ; Ih iimk.'M a nilr that laiml 1^ .,,|,ri llird it, JM Nillt|.|< ■^ lint |.ul.li>l...,l |.,r t^^.. ■ '""""? '•'•'•'■•'111 winds; ,„„| j,' , |„, |„„,^ ,,.,,,,„|^ ^_,^^_^ ^^ VtHM'.S tllll ■'•liii^'lv l.\ III.. M.|,,ii(. ink, U\ ill,. I \ j.lriirl' .. [H»; atii) the jinsw.-i t.. it ,'itfciiil tip il : h.. ji.i\v I'iS. Ill till. Lilly [111 11' {,';is .111 iii.liil liiiii l,v ■ait tiail liii-ii si;r||,.(| j], tliat al till' liiijf til. I riitaiii aiiioiiiit i.i iMiiuiit wa.'^ Miuiitiuia-ii, iiHTfa.iiiij,' 01 inliiriti;.: uiil iiiijily how. Villi lii'caii.si I tliiiilx it ^vv> !■• any ii'a.-.iiii to cli.iii^'. tliiiilv tliat to a )lc>;i'(i V. HI lis ]iiivato iilliiii ^l• I any rislif to ciiiii ink liMw.'cii .Mr. Elliv to lioiil Ml. Mi'Culitiii. i tiiii'' I nni.st lie s.iti^ I'ltiiiK lirilv with .soim' . ' Then- , It [lagc ]i'ii. Ml. Klli.s lijiil iiiili'i'cM as iiijtiM'il tile jmblii • iiiliot .SCO wliy till' gu- ll" iii!(.'C8,sity inr if. 1 1 iiig ilowii tlu'ijiis, ami the imlilir iliti'icsts, I I tliiiik i am justilii". Iiatt<'l'll|jll,|.^r|,n.||t 111, CI! on .Mf. JCIlis' [i:fit . f to t)ic coiit'liisioii i;- liinals. It is harin\ y .Mr. Dciiiarc. hii'h was made ukui- .1 ; and 1 jjut in t,li> li •; -a 111 I ,„l *Ms tdJiiij,' cntiiviv what ■"wiii^f ,l,aii.\, i.rt.M ,1 li,„-,,„^| l^ll llH.^ll.r. til tl !•• ia|itaiii ill i|iaii'i., h wis niitiiic. ,111.1 tliat tl "11 >wll III, n •! Il Mi, ii|>i)ii .Mr. .\iiiisl III iiiailc 1 ic OH mi III till .\| .» i iii-'ii'iii;, MiM , lo Mil h ,111 V|il;iilii'.| liy Ml. 1 1 rone's viviil iiiia;,'iii,itii nil'lr III i|il,iiiit, \' Il iiii|i Now, tnki tilt; iiiittci- ,,r ,|, iiiK, I ihiiik I'liiai'i- it lia.-. 1 1, TIJK O^MMI.S.SKJXKK \\ ■MH. i;VKKftT-.\ "W, wc comi; to a iiior, iml that is the trcatiiiciit. oi rln ,.ui|i| 'Molls lii.im I, „( |7, SI1-, Il ivitI lis «cni;iai tmitnmiit towanls iho„ in 1 'C-aiiii<,' ohaiactcr which is allcj-cl, i( th u I I'loM'cs liy Ml Kills am' tl II' casi , I, .SI' iimi(.|. limps ; , ir. iHili'imtysiii,ciint(imlcfit.s, then I tl,ii,i. iiH nii|iloMin.|ii Is 1,1 rli.ii '■(••'Il his haliir, ,im| fill- h,.,i,,. „| muii III IJiit when it (oiii.'s to iiivcstigatii,;,rti w.is iliHiharKcii, F think yon aril jiistitioii in inv ^'llii;i|iicstioii why J;,nii., I ^iiv'iitiiii' tl •■ III,. '"il""l'-'i ly tivatcl. .11 harshlv li,at,,,j t IsoIlUiil,. nry.illr lildvilic..; I„ •I'a.ii.-y, or.iiiv |„ nil. Kht li' lie h.'iil '■•HiNi'. il .Mr. IJi aiiicv w ''•• y-i-xm for the (iovirninciit icinstat ilOt lllslli 'lit it is ciitiii'lv oiitsi Ic tl 111 ii|i|iortiinity of having,' i Hraiilcv sni.iis', at 111,1,' hiiii. 'Iniic luni, tlnii I "!■ llivcstif,'atii,^. ,1, !•• I'lovUK'o ,.rv„n, ,,,„,„„ ^._ i,e^.,j„^,. J, c iiiatti licir •"'il'l.iuits investigate, I, ami tiu-v i le^e geiitleiiii'ii h. oiniiuttee. '1' not. " Saw, I sav il '^"' -'l;i, 'l ii.ly .lemamle.l noiv whi'tlicr .Mr. |.;|| lave lii.f not k .■ui iiivisii..',iii„„ tIiiom,.|i th ■Mr. KIlis is ar IX not lair lo Is Wolll Xe.U, •oiiiitalilf. (or having' ilischaim'd eoine lieiv ..ifti., dij, ].|| iii\est,|.'ate "'I' '■" to ("liarlcs Cdllici geii a man who .Ij,! ■-1' ot time a I lol ii.rl'i.ii II Ill- was atcr (han the oil Dem; xi'ase, anil I {|,i„k i,, | ciice. 11'- i'.l>e I he iiiii tics eviil'ii ,.. ami .Mr. Mi||,., Al the time I thoii^-ht.si,: hiit, after I lut, ,ti anv lit, ley are jnstil ie\ Ills Ml- mii'ht It has been si "•'' '" lclie\il|H themsclv. idllt It. lav.- kciit lowii .Mr. (v,||, er will |„ I'l away, without makiiir- a fuss T ili.Sehai'fje ••.\|iiiliti. :i,.iii w ■ miMc lo ,\li-\:inii,.|- .St(.\\ait'.s Il llolli I, IS II. ,11)1 'n.ittei. Mr. ,\1 I"""""'"' ^vork. Mr. Kills thought that 1 e.\aiii|.-i- .Sti.w,u-( Wa.^ iiof liil not ol.ev i lis Onlfl.s s;ltisl' l'«";l"llmn. But Mr. KHi^ s.ays he .liil not ilisi liarr^- 1 icionlv lifiiii that kiml ol M r. Stewart ti; rk at wlii-h }| urn aU(i.',,| e was tlioi "■ 'I'll not act with therolbi'. he "I', I'lll .Mllllll III' woulil not .say so. At aii\ ■1 ilay or two. say « h'-ther In- was ilischai-L'eil fr 1 ,-iiy,ii,rcii ; ami uhiii J rom till i.ite,.we know this.tliat .Mi. K 'erniam-ni ciniil,, lis n-iiislaiiil li I'ly pressed yilieilt, he ill! "itiiiii T)u.„ tl,..,v ,s ,l„. ,.,,.. ,,! M:uti,. XMur; he ,nak.s :t .■oa.plaint tl,at ,T„l,n M ..■x>M„. ,i .> .M Llhs ,.,■ l,y M,, .s,n„l,. P,.,J,,,,,,, ica Wgorou.s r.,le wo.v n.lo,,t...| u,n„ ,h,. l„u..l ,lK, NV,.1I„„1 .■.„,.,]. . I,.u,e .n.n,l......,no...k-U.,„lc.r,s, Ini.Igo ton ,. ''';, :■;;■'>;. ;;"■';■'•'«■"• •■""•'--■. -"' ^^^\^<-^- tm,!,....,,. on wi.i.h ...odit i« giv.„. o., wl, ,„„ ,.v . ..,.,,,. I ,,:„ i, a , ,.M.,n, uhi.h shouM be pu, a s,..,. ,...' Tben-'i. .., a g...... u, h,,,,,l,l ,„..r. , uiunn,. ul,„ i. .upbuuin^ of tl„a. Tl„. Divi^.o, CouH .sh.lln,,.b:u«,.sn,,.,l..^.i„., ,„., M,,., tb..y will ,„„ ,„„, ,i,..i,- au.on - iuak,. a ,,no, „„„„b ...bout . lar,v ,,u„ily ,o M.,.l.,„t. .,,-1 all th-,.. ,n„l :,rcalK,il , , gu, on i>M,iiiisiii!,' t., |iiiy a ,b,|b,i a niuntli. .I"ln. I'lark,.'. ,-,,>,. ua^ Inlly nu,.ti.at,.,|, au.l I think Vnu >mus( .■,.,„.- to tb .e un.ht „. t,. tlH. ,!,..l, . .„„ u,„thy oC en.ploy,,,.,.,. Mv U,Lio ,ce t H |U|., ...... ..n h.p,,.s t,, .. s.k. h. ^ Then a.s to E,l\v,ii',l Sinilcy's carte. H,. i^ „„,. nf t),B 1„ ct .;, , .1,0 »„,, „„. ,,,. „.. ,„„ ,„„„, , „.„,„^. 4,::::;J":;r^; :;:,;:,: "r::; foi' that roaaoii li,>. was i,i'oi,.»i.ly di.suh.u.gi.l. ' W., ro„u. t„ ,hc. .a... 01 W. L s,.uth. lie, trind to ,nako out a frrh-vanrn .,,,,1 ho e„t.n.ly huk.,1 He .h,l ..ot sat.ly yo,. th^re was auythu.K wtonf ^ l'^: ■ ;IS. """" •■ """' '^ '""'""■^^'•' '"""^'^•- ^'-^ '- -- ^»'^y 01' Tlu-o w,. bn. Vohu.y.M.n,,, who -uiue. h,..,v ami makes u loug .noutU abou- ...ng d...h u.g,..,,, 1,., had be.,, .epeatodl^ war,..d abo,,t ,hunke.„.esl Su .ti; yo" do not iii-opose to investigate lliat matte.- I ^^ '' THJ-: ((AMMISSIOXKR-Xo, Idonot. • MK. RYKEliT- Rvan wa. ,li.eba.g,ni to, d.unk.mn^.s, and taken on db |;lK.god .ga.n and taken on: ev,.,.v .■on..e..ion granted to him, fc-r the Lk^n. t».n,lv, a., yet he be, a.ne so „,to.xieated they -onh, not keo,, lim any >1> '■-not „nd..-stand ubv M,, MeCallnm .i,ould blow hot and eohi, H ,- Zki.re ahont ,..o.- e,,,.. l,en,:u,. being dis.-ha.ged, an,l then in the .^^J^^^t uas nor l,t to be .n the e,n,,|oyn.ent I ,lo not know what he ,nea..> bv fhu THK COMMISSIOXE.: A, any .ate, it was established he wa.'a good u.an MJI. UYKKIIT - Thon.a. Ha.tley, anothe,' untb.tnnate vict.n. ot intemperance a n,an whose e,lnea„on shows he is entitled to a bette, positio.. ; vet a" t^ cazed h„n so that be ,s not able to d.seharge bin duty, and had to be\|is,S A.,d n„w we ,o,ne to another ela..s of eases, the incivility ofe.nployees ' Mr Unme has .on,pl,-nn,.d about the nnfortnnate lockdeader. b.in^ asl,..,, ...d .,11 tb", tcnle.s upon , e very lo,.k he eon.plains o,; ana othe. luck, within a range ft„r or h^ e lock. 1 hej hav all swo. ,t that Hume state, what 1. positively unlru M • iilllpl.iilit tli;it .Tiiliii R. was i,„ ihkIu,. influoiicu Ji"U.s iiiio woiv adopttMl ''-•iiiler.-i, liii.lgo teiiil.T'i, ■sly imiiiiiig licavy liilU ■ iiirh crodit is given on lines lui jiaynient, tjn^v ' ^1"!' to. TLfiv is not of that. Thr Division III |iiiy tjiiii u((onnt? 'II' llli'.jll.igi-, fjicy will lilt. Htiil iiiwilliiweil t.. yoii niii.s( .-Lnu! to tin; itS()|-,jJ,eily,]iij(.|,;„.^y,,. i'lrker who h.-id )iis leg 'J'i'iity .■jii(K'nntuiidont V lixjierience is, that -idv to turn Dut and diveis wc havo upon hotoiuus abii^ivo, and out a griovaiion, and ■ >noiig. Wc did uot that tlieio was a sub at he was guilty of s u long muutli aboui ikeniiess. Surely you and taknn on, dis n, for the .sakeof hi.s him any longer. I il He roniplaiired ' inixt lireath said li.:; Means hy that, he wa.-5 a good man. ini of intemjieranoe, lion ; yet liijuor h.ts to he tlismissisd. of employees. AJr asleep, and all that videnee of the lock hin a range of lour itively ujitnie. Mr. lit I!o-).v lias mnlf some .■ouiplaii.t- '" ''I'll- ^Vhru !,.■ is asked !o u-r made any . (uuplaint aiiout it, he will i';< omjilains aliout the lo-k-t.-nders he Mienuon who Ihl^v were, and iiig umivil " iii'u he i,s a nia Coinini.ssi iiipliin! : ir th.-refure ,1. not ^!i\ u)i:it lock I. lid sKeil I fh oil, an tl say thai six or ' ii'if lie in Jii '■I'; iiiid a hoils h< IS nioiitii now |(, ,.,11,1 i-iiiK's. and ni.,kea emnpLuiil ahoin it „.iu THK CO.MMIS.SIOXHI; . x„ ■ipt.iiii .Saiiiiii ii|.|l.; seven years a;* month, lint len on t voii eonie i|i' eaiia !i written an Slide f lark this is one of the eases in LsM Mi. b hvw eommissioned by Mi. Jhmt (1 init in or--'It you bring Mr. Bunting's lette :iiis 1 ig li.as I. made, 1 will put. down the n |l"isitively using the expression C anie, and attend to it I', indieating he w 'ants an nil "ver saw you befon ent speaks of H III proper time '"' respoii- appointnienf liiit le.nies man got very wrath v. I iind u IS no use your eoniim' t :iy^ipago-JI:jl; '•! .said '1 authority. would not h ■SS. o me on that busim :ive recognized him without Bnntin./s Tl lie No^v Hl:llit\ WC eoinc to aiiotlii.>r inl us own e.stimation— a man elebraled eharacter, a gentleman of d iiairinan ol the O .Mil), 'High. 1 would like t Miseivative Assofialion 'ipyiuf^a lugh position in the com listingnished itunnity, "Ut it whieh stumns i( as 1) pi.iiiit that Mr. Ellis, al point out his ov ling untruthful, f tlie (■ounty of Wellaiid, Jol idem . beeau.se tlnn loiliee and wanted him to appoin have already gut .im; of yt lout the year LSSl, Ind thi.- t a man name.l Ualb 11 the lirst pjai is .somethi '*:■ he make 111! ng row with him Jf !s a eoni- i-dati laith. .Mr. i;i| "Il V>lli ilir 1 i,.: ' ippointi and now onie and Vis .ippoinfed; and '■ went to his is .say.s "7011 ogiiize uni; f want .Mr. Biuit lor a third c you h.nc il,s .inoiher o he ;i lie he swe iiig's aiithoritv for that. lipoiiited. I eannot His this thing took place 111 ISSI, voti 1, I Mr. Ibinting was not a uiemb now. le th 'erin 1«,S1; 1 >l> \i.ll wil •iii, as a matter (hat iig mixed up from beginning to end e ceased in ISH'2. \l, niii..uiite.s the fan, ,ii,d a very inii bill, it any i,it. h^'olL ■ouiitrv should 1 kuo w. that he is Ch :iml he demands tint his relati position on the Welland Canal, and tl urtanl faet, whieh wc airman of the (,'01 01 record has got th imns il! t! ought lo ki ere now, and ves, his cousins am! I iservilivf As.soeiatioi 11 ol Is I'nils, 'hoidd ic- liovernment should pay tribute to his Tr^ ml 1i! if I ii!' ill Ml .lili !J liiiiiily irlalK.iis: .iini liucmsc Mi'. KHif, ,.) Mr M-l),.iiMi;l ollirc. I tliiiil I ,UHfS llllll (he li( \. Ninv, Ml, j.;|]i., ,|, .„],,„ ,|„. ,^|„,| (Mini' Imiv. ami lirlil.i.i iirly s\\,-ai' Ihat ikal iliil lie ri'iicalcil it, you II Mrnoiiai'li w:, WOllI lifcaiisc 111- 1, lij.^,.,! I,, |.|||j| '■■"■ •■! "H't. |i,i liiiii in issii f|,.,i; '■ tliiiii,': ami i\,r that man (, ■iiiinioMlv uas inaintaiiiiiil l.v .Mt. Kjl; \V liisoun ic.-inmmy, uIumi: In.' says that in l>,sj ■sif, i.s ,1,'ivon flic li,j ;ati'i| a riaii auaidi'il ihis tmir til ri.inic al. M aixain -t fin' (Jov.'i' iii'l l^s:{ |)|,.,t ,M|, J.; imii'iii. ami. in lis UlVijstl lorimi >ta(i'ni.'iils that Mr. lOHis 'lilM.silion li.tinTi^j.ortoi' Mr. .Miinn. SI' III 10 niM ai-fcsor(;„vcrinm-nt laml lor a' •■' "omuial sum. \VI„,i in- Mat.s tjiat, In- giv,-.s tli,. hV .„ ,11 ,,; man .'jliJtii) .and I he n 111! Iii'.-ilal IS was in lMisrilir,\- to hiin, it iim 111 USUI!,' .,ri.iim l.niLriiai'c I IS not true. iivaii^c I I'dinc to a imhlic olli.'fi' ,inil .-,av '•'»'iiii 1 say It i.s not li'rht | tl icMois no iva.sun lor it. 1 say th.iv shuuM 1 lavc ^'ot to lio .so ami so," wUvd if "I' a man if turns tilUli 11' soim^ I .So lar as ti ii'Sf iwo i^'iitlijiiR'n ai '•iii'liision that Mr. l']!) 'iiii'ini'il. 1 ti iiiiliio|iii : whiln .Mi'Doiiai'li, w is has siiown a \vy\ ,:],.ar sheet: lici'k |iut to that sort link you must i-oiir- to tl conir hi'ir showing' a iooliiii; ami till- lui'.sL'iit tiiim, amicr tin' cin niiisf mm the cviiiiaiiai sli lie liiis done iiotli nws is- 11 liail-teiii|ii^red i 111;.' nan, ha iiiinosity whi.h lie ought not to have .iisi.layed X tiw, wr roine to the !e;,'ular ijiai'^'es. 1 think I i.lenral i li;,iu,.s wlii.h Mr. .MeCallum has ihiown in 1 l-.olst erinii; i t iqi. Tl 111, ii\ wav of liiii>!;,'s made l.v .Mr. SlrC \-oliimiiious (diararter. In the tirst i.Iaee h< iiive 1,'one through fho inci ase an ijuite Hssistint; liis ilium in the .Senate are of J'or luel was im iirreii. am I In liiugea that a verv la l-iTu with thosu in I.s7ti / 1) and I >S( tune; and in his ol)..(er\atioiis li.d mtiasrs th.. anioaiit expended in the years 18 i" ; ami .also with those of 1884 dowii t an iiirre.ase, uml. r t ii-e tin- Senate he |iroeeeds a.s I'olh; me tl II' iiK'si'iit man iLiviiient of tlr I'fte e.vpemliti 1)9 a >' jnesen: There i th loijsam ■lit. Mr. |';ili.s, in 1, I'll, ill this item of fueJ, ah iayinj^ the fuel for the Wellaml C s delenee, trie.s ti Iboii tlu' Weh.ind Ciiial .sloh' fill i lor tlu' ( Ilia! was stolen lorinerlv; that tl exiilaiii tile itierease ■red I til tl . emnirnt of the le employees nil-- fi epuiitrv. ■ wliole , la.ss .i| |.,'o]i|( in i] 'einplove.'s of the eaiial, that •ilislike 111 attark tl ' .soim h'l "■ ■'" olli.'ci of the (;o\i'rnineiit ol ihi; I), It is not a vei ei! "ay ; for ) million to slaiiiKi tliev ail M-iitnre to sav, for tl ^is iiomsi as III,, majority of mankiir !•■ sii|ieriiii, rnk'nf l.ehiml his hai.k ; lor tl t.'ls to III,- |li'[iartlm'i,l, .'isking lor e.vpl. lat reason J wroi lai.l III |i,r,' till lloi iiiHtion. .Mr. El IS reply wil .So thai you uill see that tl he I is full le gr.ivaiiien of the ej, las e.vpejidi d a mneh lariri'r amount in fuel tl \ iX|iiaiij.'d. Ihal tliel t.) do without h e 111", cr \\ IS .'in .illowaii' e In iari,'e against Air. Kllis is th, as expemled formerly. Tli 'fore for if. 'md the men ha VV e i^i.1 on fuitki'r .iii ,,,,,,. , . "' ^'•'' ""'' ""■ ^'■'"'■'niMif made l,y Mr. KIlis about lock temlers stealing w I is imply jusiilled l,y the .videme. The evidence is vei > «tron^ upon that point. Tlieiv is tl,,. evidence of Mr. Smith ; thi'ie is the evideP, Ill tlicrc iii'c ijc) vinaiicii-.. IIS (n kirk I11II1 out of til' i>k you, sir, as iiminlic] I H.'istiii;^:, vaciiiicifis liav 01 llif posilimi,. ami yoi, ir a iii.'iii wciv to tell \-i> , ill' n'pcad'il it, you uoiil., ilili .Mcl)oiia.i,'li ua., lint '^: and loi- that man I, iiiaiiitaiiKii! liy M,, l]]\, . sir, is jriveii tj,,. ij,. (.. i lli'-t .Mr. i.:ilis iiiv,;>ti tlifiuj.ort of .\|r. Muiiic 'Covenniiciit lami Cor ai ll'' gives ti„- li,. •,,;>!! ill' If is not true. , liav. is not i-iglit fur a ,Tmn 1 iii so," w iu'i) it turns ,, <'i'k jiiit to tliat sort . ; ll< you ilUlst IIUIIL' to til ; ill' lias (loiK! nothiii;_' I liail-toniiMiriMl man, ha nut to liavc (Jisjiiaycil a. ^'oni' tliiougli the inci ol assisting iiis r.'a.s(; an ' lie Sfnatc aip of i|uiti- L vi'iy large exiicmlitti! I ill lliu ywir.- 1809 air: <84 down to thi> |iies(!ii as lollow.!: "Then' i- I this item olluej, aboL explain the inerease 1. ; that the employees 11 Hitry. [t is not a vei . Dominion to slandti , lie to say, for th. ajority of mankind. I '1- tiiat reason 1 wroi Ir, Kills" reply uill 1, s'ainst Mr. KIHh is tli.t liiided formerly. Th. >i it. and the men ha^ • Air. Elii.s about loek The evidouee i.s vei > : there is the oviden. 'I' .laiiies Bradley ; there i.s fl i5 1111 ri. Hmdl ey : and there is t ailed in ivbuttal ; all tl le evidelK le evid ■<■' I'f Captain Scott, ''ii'-'' «if other peo])le ; tl and the eriden, e of Abrt tilideis U( ii'se \viliie.s.st eiu was John Neill. le III 111,. 'limine' them to ji.iy tribiit,; to t ''■'''il "'■ g'-ning wood from the ■s rome (oiward ami .swe.ar that th Uiillld lint lloWed to t.lk. Iiuni III that ivspeet seows as they I'anie al iiid freiiueiitly, when tl ong. ilie paities. Captain .S.-olt swrirs f,, tl ""••'I. fli-yuouM take it without the"km.wled lie same tliiiif and ■.top[)ed me. to sWeai thai the lock [ « llhoiit eoiisi'iit . ,1, il "iiifliision that .Mr. K Ml. .MeCalluin referred. lendii Ml. as far as fh.at is '■" l"-'-itiv('ly, and A. H, Br.i.ll 'II'''' a dozen witne.s.ses, i| v ■s "'I'l. in the hibif of taK ley g« of '•y sweats to "11 hid not lis was .amply instilled i. ""■•■'""'I- I think you will I makiiif' rl mg wood with or ■oniB to the lit statement, to whieh !'■ maiji-r ol' We (.-ome to tl illioi ity." liii'^iMutions iip,,n that iioint? When .Mr. 1' i.'it n.'e,.ssaril •s|ieiidiiig a large y in\-ol\-os tl '"""iini of „„ V witl <|iiestioii of uh.it eiUt iit Mr. Kllis' instruet aav V. as a.skei mlv when tl lon.s were, he eonld not fell; h tl "'"re Mr. Kl K' 'iiuvtion if he |;n I" repair.s aii. la roe. ■ when le- dl> was ivadv i, •says, --.Mr. Ell is 1 onsults 'lo it. -ningoi (pie.stions that woiil.l till ■ I'lideavored to a 'di'iits consulted nie, and i.is advi.sfd with me vet ' advise htm on ,inv y olten. IJ subject a she.t of paper when I L- geiierallv lailne ill tl II' construction ol •'■^"vrthem, and do th',' best I couhl about it. So >iiii tunes they did not. I lad a wars im! I al nie superiiitcn- '"■« works; and what tlmv .-an k am very much e ngaged now iK-n, page 140si ••Did not e.v .\ii estimate is in amine into t •■''1' away I'toni me t lev W lien th.al is I'le and submitted to i.h„ .Minister. I le small accoiiiit.s 1 Ol' itpaii done It is sent t mwn to the .same, and I " !>ai'liatnent. In large it am consulted about it. Allowance is made for e.vtraord the best 1 can. All •«!■ Items my afttmtion i.s superintendent :)Mes tl K-y exercise tlieii inary lejiaiis in case of "wn judgment. s make estimate i'nierg,.n.y. f„ sm.alh e ipiestion arises about tl :Hlildi i.-Tc. ill his eviden.'e in ret. 'dM'Ut linllding .lock at, I 'i''nce to the dock. ig of the (look at I' Hie. iSonie '"It Colborue. (fad ''.vs: "Mr. Klli.s ,lid not '"I't (-'olborm-. Ml \ say it is good, an. lot lers >\y. II turns out in evid not. 1 an opportunitv of '■oiisult n I lied lot of niiui ai.ii t'M.'e. that the t 'l.uv ,sav it si!oiiig what »as IL'tl ' 'u ; ,in.l th.\ seem to ii''v u.i not like ih.- .lock 1 airil, mak ig owners a '•an I'll iitiliwii.-- '■'■ 'I'/'arenlly a dissutis "'"'liave a privilege for ^vhieh thev onl '11 tl e more fuss thai ili'iii, .Mr. I 'art. ii' east side of th.. ,;inal. I y I»ay S30 a ' '"'v other persons on the canal. I' lav. It '!■ sa_\s Ih.'v do 111,1 Jik,, j,_ .|||j ^[ "-•'•aiise it is not -t"i III, Ml, K mu-r uas laiili t lis sa\'; tl " aiisw,.r 111 .ir.i.scofa st.irm 1 '""ig.'i storm it is a bad ley will iralurillv III, iieiaii; lonveniont jdace It in ciis ol a stoiiii Tl go oil into th 'I', in .'a; •'• of a i.'iltl ie«s sa\s, wlo'iiev.'i tl "V ^wll stay in,M.le if t 'V ill ih.'li,' ; thev will not ;. ' k should be longer. H,- i: I'l my fault with it. It ,ill le is a storm they g. ;o out where the d iii'i'l 11" "thiT faiiil. rt it '' 'anal. 'i.'v ran I I'l'-y will not lOSSlll|\ ,i,, ' and lay in th.. |,,.>k il .Ml .Ml •.111- goe,-. to show it 'llle to tht '5iit .Mr. Carl \^tii'' longer he ufiiiiil i''y go ,ind C'l says tile IS a matter of judgment on t! •'lions purposes, tor the purpo.v.. ,.f unload ||"ii|i.i,ses, which \ou will [the ,.,ason all through, i.s very'small I'age liOl.S. H c'>iicliision it is necessary (o 1 'uig Vessels at the elevat not le part aave it f, e savs: I lit' rough weath ■"'. and for otl t'l, tak 'ler iug I I 26 '• iH'Xt ,ii,.stio„ „.. ,o,„o to t.n.lw ,l,u |,.,„| i., th, Imihling „f tl,,- Cust lli'iisc ulnl f'ost oil "N not williin youi' jiruviiKO to riii •>", sii', ii|,oii that [M-iiit, I v.'iituro t on, t)i(i (jovcrmiifiit i''i/i \ oil :il jjletf wts rijrlit o siiliiiiit tliut it '■ not .iillpil upon licic to say wli.,t!: •il a lo(i;r (iiiH. bi'lorc ilii '"■ vM'iiig 111 i.aviiig ior;i piiWi.- uoik .vl ilcli «;!'• at Foil Co]>ionib was iMoctod I'oi' tl '■ii'imiy r„mw'ur,:\. M,, Page .s.iv.s thf mst^.m li ]lCM as lai- liai ys It was iic.cssaiy to liavf that bnihli piiiiiosi' olt!ikiiif{ thi- i.iai'fi of one torn dr as Afuv, 1S,S7. :)inl «.• liii,! thit tlic riovon of the colhMtor'.s olli. utiini of, Mr. MiCalhi iilvaiirfil ih." sum of 81, 000. "■iistoiij housk- at Port Coll lllU'll! his; thi.>y knew it was, ^ Ills, at paj;.. L'lia ; so that 1 1 111 a.voiiiii of tlie.'odstnirti. '"11),., \,.n will (hill it ill tl :«ui^ on. It \v;is takni ovf;r hv 'ill •'■llllih'lit \'iMr .-.ij/i'd iif liliMrv ilK h« found at paj^c 2.S1'J. Mr. P liini that that has hecii taki thoir coiitr.d ; w that a.s long ago as 1887, hui;/ bol viT liy tho Pulilj,. W I'ldi'l- ill roiilK il, uliirh osc.s oidt-i-in-.-oiiiiril (,, ^\),.. i,;||i,„ ,,,| 111^ orks r»f|iur) lilt lit. iiiak iiig tliese chaigus, thu (j'oV(,rniiicrit >r.; Mr. MiCillinn tlioui. for, .md ratilii.'d it. ;new tl aiHl took it over hull had of the pioviiKT of this ..'nqiiiry t( uoiiie to that eonnlu.sion oi long hcfoin this cuiiuiry as a public woik. .So [ I'H frci.tcd'.Tu vT," It b (I investigate that cjitirely outsii I loo ikii matier, .■ind 1 thi ig at tin- i. wa.s iiKstiiiitei Xow, wf pouiy to a branch ol cases, snch a variety of oth that Mr. Ellis ^n'tod repair.s. In tho lit^it plan-, in ru or matters, with regard to wh dlieh ~:h.'.\v that it « as the l-ejiaii.-. to the UK you wi' as paid to olii 111 the interests of the piiblie .serv i<-'i< I think y,. ice in niakiuff Mr. MeCalhuii has tak. leivnee In the repair.s in the eaiial of! ail' tllo.- T) ■a exeeptioii, you will tind that Mr. P lu repairs were necessary. It is desii'al>le for lice, to wiiic! ;ige say.s, at page Mil 'about that. It •Th ill a pretty bad state. It hifn to consult the Deiiart le eorner wa.s falling down, and Mr, Ell «;is iieee.ssary to repair the build IS made tl men; ling le repair,- :!'!'": !,' ^';"".^l\"' '"'"'''*" "J"'"' '■' 1'"^ '"' ^'^' ■■'i'l'H-' I tlieii,' a! kept for the q)urpose of proteeting the buih •e shows, notwithstanding the evMeuee of M he time ; ami these wat- lllllgS 111 ease o r. Wood Den who have shown feelings of hostility towards Mr. s«ear that the water works answer the inirpo.so for wliich tl you vNill decide that is a wise c.xponditure, M, them work, ile had an opportunity of seeing them over and f tir< Hid .Mr, E. lare- an ! t!i Tl Igraft- <'■ witue.ssfH ley aie intendi.'fl, 1. thii P age \Ml.sll('lid g:u, 'II tl IIS 0|,iliio|i Uy jKiyii), 'ic Mi'w .'aiial, to Port TFIK i;oM.\Ussi()Vi,;i{ liMtatioii ill -^ayiii^r at t|,j.^ ^, ■ivc liirlliri ar^'iii,i,.|jt I'll tl, IVolM til- ••K'-, tlnl if f <.'\ I'lciin, addiK cd, I w, .U'lV I, 'Ifi'ldi' ul|i:ri; |< .\1H. RVKEP.T Tlo.y iKid to I.,, b I'M I'iM'taiiily i,|it thoiii at Port 11 iiialtL-r, r havi' pill tin: I'll i'^yil'Ka h. ;r,. sluirof ilii.Ti' is allioii.Mi' lli'-:i Ilii'i'i '!ii,"'.l to repair llo- oatis. Tl, lllrkl V It was I', 'II' and i,Llli,liL'ri W 111 IliMl tl I'lViiit;- III,, ,ia|[' "as an ai'cnhnt to tlni Haskell'. " ||iii'stioii ah,, lit III It. j'l I'Vi-iy iiioiitli, ami tl no ,f\ 'in.' pontoon, ,ii,d tin- '•.\ an- Miiar the fsial.'lisl guti's arc I'ari'ii; ailrl sri! I y an- tak lini'llt ; til ■I i'l'op.'r pusiiioi, lor till- ,„.^;i, I'oinc to tiic- Inidgij at tli "ii to tlu! Work lOW ! away, the ^'alf.s are .ill I gati-saif taken down W 1 1 real' and .so 1,11. s and Impaired iuiiniiiUatel |iii'l!isioii that the ( <• Woolen liii'ti • "iiginal map will show ■overnuient had iki otl "■y ; ami I tl ii'i •ilieriiat 'ink \oii \\i)i IVl I'h; t' "^•'^ It "-as; fory.'ai hut iC) I illd pill '>iti>- to the i" tii„v did. > go through hi.s private prop.iity, and ■s and years .Mr. Dishr-r allow.id il 'toiy. the wat trouble a ■ I'ower of will,.], is le.-isrd go across the biidge int ' iij,'ht to shut iVii'cc the (iovi'ii. To.-ehctueenyou.i-Mr. Dishei 'V the C o the woolen overniiient to certain gentleini lUIn o "11, and, through mv inter an 4 Air. Ell ii-Samlheatoiireclainiei idl,'e, lli'ioi \ iiii'iiL oir thai ow, th " evidynce is oveiwliellii yioUMil, ,unl thev w •volition, did cause that to bi IS c.xpeiidituie. In th,. (],..st ,,j iliig in lav'.ror that b ■ 113 compelled to biiiM o be (lone, a new :nioii t called ujion t e would -et hi llll/.ed iiy tl for the lie iicoi'l .\ of all would be to th investigate that It- 1)1 .\r, I'lir li'i for 1 lai'fj,' a ■pose of iiuloadiii rritton, .ui,I there e cllbet that that sli( liou ; i,ut I wa.s no otin ' ^^■as ,-i Useful on ig vessel.s. Surely tl rf. Mr. R ge anioiint of rent, have a ricrht tc y the (, ^ayofgoingtoRio rdon's overnmeiit, when thcv t loidon did not touch those bank, give him facililics t ilX o go into his at aJl; they belonged to th m n!i ! I I ! !• S8 v,>i'nniotii. Why .a1„.ii1i1 Iw ni.'dillc with MiMitiii S,). I tliiiik. thtMii It svcMilil caii.'ic vim wil OHIO 1. 1 til ii great (It I'liiirlusioii thill it w •IS il I 01' M>\V Wii Hill' III till- woik TIII;C()M,M|SSK)NKK | it Mr. I)t'iii,ii«'.s il tliat vi'i' link that ha.s I "•••II txj.LiiiKMJ; ( tliiiik t Hwh :r.sl, MK ItVKKHT Th.. nrxt aiHJ All iiihiirj,' Kia .1. 1 i|ii«'stioii is that lit Si iiiiiur ,s l)ii(lgi ipon OovormiHiit |,r..|,.Tt> ; i|,at thr ma wish to |.(.iiil ;i] • -ly you as h,.i„g u„i likely to be impearl. 'n Ileiiiy I'op,., .Mr. l'op,> s,,id, wh.a't was tl i>Miied that, and 1 I is build th.' briiltje out of h l-estei ia\ e no obiei'tioi upon inn, his attention I Ah. !•: (leing called to the dan 'propria tio le uatn K n, as long person.- pa.s.sing o\er it aloncr the eanal. kiiowin.. using ihe canal, felt that Fergu.soii and .Mr. Hllis. and you will money expended has not been wa> mat til I' was liei'essarv. lis, fi'iding the responsib iridg. y p,.i. ig^rous state of rhe I uiilge was iis.'d 1 -HI hav.' till ■OltlH to II e.\planatioii.s of ^i ited. coiiclnsion. I rhink, thai As regains the weigh sralc till y wi'i'c usi lul : In do not .--ec 1 1 .said h,. tlci'dit till ■■'t St. Catharines, I think Mr. i'.i.n' has st ati \ Were ii' .\f lis was ail obiectionable cvih iid 112, he H li V- Itllle conelu.-ion it wis a w i N se eX|ienditnii think vnii will oliie lul ow, wr coiiii' to another hr Work tor oiitsid.' paiiir stigma upon .Mr. KJlj ;iicli of li II While there h laf 1- allowiiu Ml Deiiiari I'lliplo'.ei" '"•'•I' 'lu ai tempt made to fasten Jiersons ill the 111 nniciil of il •Mr. Smith and .Mr. 1), exploded. Let days tiiat they filial. 1 thinl iiiil ine Jiist say here that k yon wil e\i'li sujiposinjr (], aced t! lis you wil and allowing the full -pay that tl 1 lot of,, iceli enl ■ men have woiki.-d ^.i\ that ha.s I li'V lid lli.it in I jet I I allowing them the full t in >.'ars, (he tul.il aimu ia\'e eiiuii; nie, altliongh they ai.' paid by tl .lilt o| these I men s w.ij- year, arnount.s ti 29 w.mM niuse a great dm: ■"'■"■>iis Mim of ,«ns • That i. thecxtpnt of fh. sioii tli;il 'it u.ns iiicil; I think I uinl. Ml, I'llis, ;ir, illli iiiig t.. Mr. MrCillii, 'X|iiiiiiiriir( whi li iviii h.' I li.ii'i'fMl SilVS If I allies for 11. vsoir. I h;i(| lint 11 s (,U!| v.Lsi.Mi ol th.' stoiy. Just hx.k at it. I't-i! Udikiii;,', I w(,ul(l h.ivu h, or.s Iui(Il;v, nil Iht' T iHf , Kills' hiiihliin,', and was (•iiira<'-(;(l w.is ..'iiiployed hy tli.; u-,,,, ,;».! 1 ,■! 'II niiikin^r ipjftiin I iiKa<{(;(l two or Hum. wtok.> 111'', aii.i ii c, lines to .$40. Th-' luwt i.s H l">i' 10 ,i;'n IImI sU|M.rilll('M.l I h iivi' taken ti liii.*m..V). William Hllint I, oil.. |,,:|,| of lit 10.1(1, as it now exis, ly ran het\v...eii 'rhoiohl tlio spoil bank of tht> ua Ml tilt' road eoiii|iaii\ ' it to it than I had. It " hia.l.s of^^Tavel. |i) renf.s. .r.,|ill I i'l-, H) eelil.^-. . I. ,1,11 ,S ik, I .hd eiltins; worke.l n w,.rk : f 1 i'elei I'avl ;iav(.|. ■_'(! , ,.ntx '■ihv, l.'vv I. ..a. I .11 ."^I'Xli'll. two d.i 10 .S.I hi. if \, vs, .?2 11 "ill roeollnet, ahoMi t I I th le out ia\ e ^'iveii "II, h..i(luif,' Live taken that lo he |\ a ihiy; although 1 le w.l.s ih>in.' oth lip 111 lour or live ininiit, iv" iiiiiiulis h.fon ••ix. Wnw Mr. II. "-'""I- •^- !■"■ Iii.^ rim... .M;„ti,i .\i,.( •mil Ih.le w.'le lwelv(. loads, I or li\(. III.. II have .-iveii I '• ''""■ I"' "oike.l h,r Mr. Kljis v,,,s ,il I' road has hccn alten eriiinont cluiiiged tlic r. '1 lie sav.s li. I (I .'.I I iiii ijuile as niii.-h lui ,.iil prev 'I lii'I : hill hi. eolll,., il'oiil tluv.. w led. ..lavs: iiiirei soil.liiix. .'-;s. Ilaiiiiltoii I'ag,.. t lolls Sllp.rilitelldelils. 1 allow him •iiiial; and thai ■""''■"■"■ ' ''^'ve taken the whole of h w.. ii.ir. ;vs. (It. a win;,' iion : ]' li.sw;isJiistilie(liniiiak!B "" '''''H'llor, cleuniiiL;' i he j,l,„.o ajt,.,. Si. ( i.-s pay, .say .>!.!0. .lohii .Se.vt loiiias "II. at 8'.'. H. Dr. F: •r^'U'ion lm,s ■w and Walton, workiii'' haif [>vor and ovnr ajjain hy portant work, ii.se.l hy oveiiiuient teams in Ini •l(ii,'i iiity, !i<.i..-)0. Makiii.' !:^r •I .lav d 'our^'es festival, s;i; an.l Will ""II 111 the hospit.il, ,1 Now, I want to point out this to v 111 ten ye.irs, the otl'eliee ehai'ired a;;; lain "111,^' an aei of |\e ma. IV Upon the side of this list th.'it tl iiid yon will .se liiist Air, H U.S. It j'lisritiei Il in fn]\\ "rii th.it they w,.re pahl hy .Mr. hlllis. The I e li hy tl le ,1,'ieat m.ijoiity of fj II' ""iiinients I ivse men lia\.. Ml. I't'igiison sweai Mot likidy to heinipea. Il ■aid, what was th.. ijatn ppiopriati.iii, as lung ,. feeling the respoii.sihir lis stat(. of the lipid", ■ -tniete-l p.,i.sitiv..ly not to a! Ill reie (. t "W a man's time h " I"' di.'iwn is rh.it all tie oiviiieii all .say that tl or aiiv work for Mr. Kll H'V Welu ihar Klli, left money for them in th,. .,ii ■■se men were pai,| l.v .\1,.. KIlj,, ,s is: so th them, we .aiiiiot (h.eide which Us say: i.^.e m.aii a siiii,'h> s: '1 paid for all this : I told the f he: Si) that if K i;e it w.is, ami when it ollle ol tl ll.s left th Hut, was. i>.m e nioil.'V at anv lioiirol wag.storaiiv tim oreillen Ull.li.l I lie Uol t.) all dg, >riilce was IIS ,y p, uk yoi! will ...me to tl •■ I'll work outside of 1 1„;( o\\ a the e.\planation.s of v| lii-^ioii. I rhink, thai "'•'1. Now, tak(. all t le i()li.:Jnsi,ui lle.fi lias 'heeii no ;||, •overnimiit. iL'se men that liav.. worked Ir. I'age has stated I "It sod, you iiiiist say that the time of tl Ml. Kllis. Now, as to this malte ■ of fioiidwells. It lesi. mei, there, w h.is not I""' of I hat kin. I | ler 1" ll.lVe |,,.|,|..,| ,'ra\'» ■" iiii|irop..rlv U.S.., 112, he .sa 'weil that man to.,i;o otf f '■i|'l"':ii> th.it .Ml Kll link you will I'ome tn i I'll w.is rifjht ..i wroiif,' is n.,) f, |i' doinir very little wnil. "!■ im ' (en days uh.ii I II' w.is ..lit il I me (, -.i\ '11' Mr. Kllis 1 1 loi tw.i \i,.ars, ' '■■""I' : "hetluT !<, he wasjiislili..,|. lOlli'llt. allow ine- i.mphr, fust liii .iloii^' with him hir a short t line. I d. ii''-mpeiint..|id,.ni ,,f (j,, as (hat Mian up! liiaile Cli .s(. . asi.s wi'ii hi not think thai m.ih ill taking Dell and a lot of o: Willi men in the i>" a ground tor cen.sming Mr. Kllis fori wen an a. eumnlntion of iploynient of the ( laviiig iinne,.(.,s,„,,i)v i,it ■ l\ thai has heen (.|ili|. '-' iiK'ii have woikcd ^ lid get I lilt of these men tl Hiineee.s,sary manner. It h,is heer .stated hy .Mr. J,, • overuiiient. ,111. i iiti i/e.l th,.!:' lal ■i oth r.s, that Mr. E li.ive eiiuii ■'^o, I think yon will coin.« ti lis p:ii,l for ..vervth iiigsent to 1 w I thi. conclusion. 1 Hill. .\|r. Salvin, .Mr. c lis jilaro. S W.i.. ill. from a fair standpoint, that Mr. E\ H> year, amounts ti Il Ills owxi piir purposes. ion. Jooking at everyth i.s has nor iis,..| that 1;,1„ er- mr in lesliey now iig, as I k >r on the <.anjil I ! I I 8 nil ^ i- i irir: TV, '''° .1... ™:::r^::',°:;::,:i::" ""«"« - >- --- ^. - -« - ■ THK CO.MMISSIOXKR Ves. THK co',';l',!;.,„«;';r ";:" '"•'" "■ ■"■• ■ - "■"" »"■ >■■"•■.•. ::.:w,r,:r;;,x,:;r '■""'■' "■'''• •'■' '-■--■'■ I ii... ,,. „.g,„.h ,|,„ ,„M„,, ,„„,„,j.^ i, ^,, 1^ _^ ■1;.).. I.... ,. .„„„, ,„„ ,„ „vM,,„, .i,..ti„„,.„.,„,,,,.,;i„ , ;,*','■;. : I :. ■■... . ' ■■'imi.d, .»ii, .\|, („i|||ini strove ( ,tv in nn,) .l..,- .iii< '^:^ ; t^': :^:,^r ■ "' ^" ^'^"' '^'" ^^^"'^ "•' --- i-'^'-'^^t ^ ^ THE COM MISSION ER-V,.. ' a l.,s ot the cases, a,.,l I have put th. number of hour. u}k>u ,ay li.t and th. v. ■ n", r;ssr;^8r"^'"'^'"v ^"' ''"' ^'" «'"'^>'-''-orti,i;;;;;'tr m 18»2 1S8.5, lo84, y.ar,s a>wl years a^'o ; that in a nu.nh,.., of th.se .uses tlu ,„• pa.l to, th,. ... of th.. annor ; la.t wh.r. th., ,|i,l ,.,„ pav fV„ , u e " I t J^ was h..aus. th,. vessols ... i,j,„., .,. n,e .anal. L .Un.k u .^ he i Dehan.., .Invou upon ,t by th. ..,.,1. yu. Ellis Ion, ,h. .Uvn., appar ^' i, 'nak.„« a ..ha,p^ Mr. N.elo,. «ot the ,livi,„ apparatus ,or th. H ^ ', „: -Jonr ays, and Mr Ellis^thou.ht it not nccssary to .har,e ,;. ,,ha "r ' 1 ^ illp, no , har^T ; she struck the pier au,l was loakiu" ['1,,^ U,.!-.]! l-,, L ' I shoe on the toe I „o not know the t.hn.oa, .xpre^Iiou":,,,!" .^^^ ^^ J I ^.ort tune. A eharge is n.,le that the Silcox «o, the use of the divn ^ t, l- ij e«; Uwas shown that the nn.ney was paid direct to the L>epartn,e T Man.towoe Mruck the w,n^onlo,k nun,!., 1.; only en.a^e^ . L' 1 o ^ • ' . Elhs d,d no. eha,ge lor tha,. Th. ... P. Heal st.n.ka loifand a Lr " H .or t^ree and a half hou.s. Then the Mo.ewood knoel.., .„' he. ■ i 'J n U can I, away baek ,n 1884 ; M. ,1. r,un,.,ings, in 1887, th. .an,, wav ; ^^ K.ng, also the s.n,. way ; and the Hentl.y :- .. .....not find auv t,a..' o M--. De,na.-e ,sea,.hed and eould not find it. You will .s.. tha ,1 iv ' appautus was „.., perhaps altogether a week or ten days in the'ias, To. ^^.. M .E!hss.ys: -I ,n,i .„, ,, ,,,„,,,,, ,,,., ^^^„,^, J ^,,^ .^ ^ 3- o see hes. n.en who were navigating the eanal, who .e.eived an injnrv Xtl, through the.r own ca.elessuess, or so.nething wrong in the .ani ^ , 31 fiiiaif, it liasbfien slio . ■■"Raiiist. u win;:,' \vh1I--I thoiiglit it was not .-id hoiifriit If was not ^iilvisal.lc, thf r lit with .Ml. .Mi||,>,-. "I .Ml-. Miller; .some loliii.>,oii ami .loliii D(. Kicliuc a liitliir I'loiii i !• work Wlli(!ll W:ts ),;, il liHVc |.Hic| 1(11 hiiii,-. lat IJir only tiiargn th, lencu .siy.^ Uvo (Iiiv>. . ny lato, we will say tu y ill tin; inteii St ill thi' il.'im, till' i.x! lly answered, six, "allowing part; 'lay in and day out ■riornicd, but he faili ivitlidutauthoiitv : ,i I liavti enuiniTat' . my liat, ami the yeai of thi.- work was doi, )!' tlit'.^e cuse.s tlii; uf . I lie iisrt lit' the ariii'- ick ii|Mjn the |iier, tl- ing dinuratu.s witlioii| the Benson, for thiir foi tliat. The Lea [Ia.^ ve;!' . it Was .HI inju.'st: 1 an injury, wliefl L' lanal, or runtii!;! think lilway ; thoiij,'l]f it was li..t.|.M i you will I nine to fl vi,sahle to make a eharpe for that." •oii-i.lerint; th.' ..onpetition with th'j Kii^ Canal II'' .'[iparatiis and not*eliar-" f (J [I'll. I I liaiK"' iiiadi' liv Mr. .Mef I" fjiH lii>i in that th or !■'■ wa ■ not ivallv-iiiv f oundation for IlllUIII. Till II "Tiuilii '■"'" f'"' l"""')oM ■• W. h;iv.. h.id thai -vplallio,!. A I tin ponto.iii" has ,ilso l.ciui explallK'd Thill wi' Imvm the awful eriun' ot taki 'Spiki Itiin .riiuii'nl. Hut paid |i r. Mr I) n;,' -.'irt pick'ts, valii.M It 81 r.O, from th. ml to MrCliviiv ,<: (' ''■iiiaic uaiiti'i iiid hmiid rlnv hud soliir llllllhi'i 10 |V,.t Ion H' ot taki tl tioiii' linl I'j ,in.l I I |, "11' iiiil'.-<- they (hai-id for only Klf.',.t, whirh il I. Hid Di'iiian III' riit "Il two fri't, and till. I iiniyiuf,' thriii liuun- undi'r tl Hc'Ts wn-i. pil,.,| II,, in ()„. yard: and u:v ajjii-fil (i men wen .1 .1 few hoards theie t ii'ir anus; an.i om. dav .Mr. K th o inaki' a side\\alk to his li lis aske.l if there iKc tnosi l"h'le to foiiu'l piekets, worth .«il.;',0; .md 1 irn: ,ind fhoiicjht it was no I a eharge uiion that. 'lo not think you will ruusidr Mere larni nli-r 1. worth hen the scow used hv FFiitclii iison. il- 'li'i not; think it worth whil,, diargin^' for the .^a If vdraulic jacks were paid for by Mr. .Muir. lor two d.iys u.sed by Hutton. Mr. Deniarc h, hat «a- ii.^ci |',„ a >Iiort tin; and .Ml ly; th.at thatHcow was lavi ni^ up in Tl cxplaine.l that s.ttisfa.' Ibiiii;; II down f( loronl 11. ar the ijuari'v; thcv k'liii intcc no loss he nii'dit bi )r repairs; and he tidd .Mr. Mutton if 1 in-' di V I ajMiot say there w.as aiivthi le would biin.L,' it dow; wn .1 tiw stone in it, and he brou'dii it d llh.'it. i'emenl lor tin; rubber factory; n Iij; wron,!.,' in that re.siieel. wcri! ''oiiii' to 1 ami own. cement was uaed; that i,s tlic best Then the only thing which I'l iii.'^artion is the la. I that h<- did .ill |li"iii the yard and put tle^ni in his \' seems to have sturk to Dell '^w the melt to take tour or (i lest answer o throughout the whole tlici'i who has bi-eii a faithful in. Now that is th' ve oi' six plank U ;'rvant hii many \i a ■nnie to be attached ti '■ "'inc to another important matter, uhi, 1 Is on the canal, uid n.ii letiirncl jn jnoper tine Tl I IS in relerellee ti 'W, .Mr, Diuiii, in the hist placi , has [ lit 1.- one of the charges Mr. .Met: 'Honeys reieived Ilium iii.ik l\..'lll., hi tore Ml. Klli.>' time, of lointed out that ihi Iki.ep the inoiiiv in tl the superintendents, when the I, piyticn had lieeii, for 1 no record kept id' then [111' lias invaiialily put in M'lr own poeket, ami tiia!;e the ret iii'.s were paid in, ti Sincr .Ml. Kills I tini at the curl of the veai, orf (■ hvl ?y in his pocket ; the iilol ':'■- li"'n in the rontinl nt ti le canal line, liy till' collector; tie "■V uas collected at lock 7. liui to Mr La nioii.v was sent to Mr. KIlis lit w wreiice, ami entered in tie' book, tl IS paid for, and tlim hamlcl to Mr. l)i le lea.son for it, and handed what th '■ m< Ill the money ton. hed Mr. Dii liiiclei .in\- ciieunistances; h.- ^^ the payniastei ol the laiial. fi not, the money ueiit in, and Dunn .savs it i"";"i'l l"it into I he .site. I contend le- ame lesponsible for it lit siij.po.s,. he did, or nn s hands I,,. ( [iii^'.mce, if men wei. as useful to h.ive that iiisfad of making the poor feUow.s |tliciii to .sell tledr time to shark '• the envelope out ,uid hand the in})loyed upon the canal five or six i lavs h moiiev I- or «aif for their i r special work, "'■ocy. and instead ot s aioumt to\M in tl I. as has hei.ii often "Olii'l lis IS nioiiev. If .Ml. Dm com iiel ling )ne, he would Mune (,| this iiimseli; or .Mr. Klii.-. Ill was short of mom u anyone else. It was al Ways In.. - , I! i I n ii Mill I iiii go •Kl . -<> .l.> tha.. I M,y rha, Mr. Ellis has .lo,„. , .ow than his ,.n.,l, .,...,.• 1,„ ">^.s i- , an.l I „.v,t,. you u, look af then,, H„ .ays th. a,.,-,..,. tt,„ t,k ■ . '•n;.s n,„l , wa. .,ntnv,i in th,. l„„.k what ti.y we.. n....iv.l lo,-, an^l tluV. l::;^.:^■'■'''''•■'';.^'^'r''-■ «'■:-"■ "„.tn,ayh. a, „op,...M,in;o:: . n, an.... ha,, a..nnu.at...,, a.^ Canal lu.^ulattons. A, th- .....1, i, says: -Su.h .lau.a.,. „. he ..sti,„a.,.,ri,v ,|, .su,„.nn.,.n,l..nt ,>( th... .anal, an,l at on.,, pahl ov... to th,. ,..-..,.,„■ ,.Lnu., . ^ 1 .^ «1. to m.„..n yo,. „,., M... Whit,.... has si L l,.,«..,nh.. .„ , : an. . >m;: th.s ha. .o,,,.. .s,.,.,.iall.v u„,|..,. th.- Kail.avs a,.l Cu.als l),.,„u..n..„ niStr.lt!t.O.,S hav.. h..,.|| ,riv,.|| Ihit .l„.v vl,..ll I II . '■ ■ "''"" "'l''""ii"| ^^^ THKCOMMlSSIOXfc:,;^., think tha, i. an a,...., .. „, .hat onght , ko.„f '; ^^^^'-'^"^r ^'"^";^'"^ l"-^ ""f l'^^^<' that looseness ahour itru,..! Ellis ha- t:^l:wt. """""' ^"""' """'■ "^'^ n.. not.. o;a...Uv.yUolla,. hash. . THE C0M.M1,«^SI0XER-I .1.. ..ot thi,.k y.,,, n..a .o ...to that ThatT'" Z'^'^^^^f r'^;'"'" r^>^'' ""^ «-- ^ -'-.t ,.c.,ly to o..der ol' tho Hon.s,.. I hat has hee.i expla.ii,.,! satistai>torily, I thi.ik. * THE COM MISSIONEi;-Y..s. ■ MR. HYKEHT -X..w. w,- .o,,,,. to anoth... h.an.'h of th,. .-as,: .'That M. MI.s ,s a..l„t,a..y i,. his „..a,...e,.t of .........s of v.ss.ls, .idaini...^ wi,ho,.t ....son . finnl t„g „«..,.,. ^00. h.-canso h. ,,,„.stion.,i hi> n,a«aK,.,.,o;;t." \ow" |, • « th-, U1..SO, ,„.,.a„:,, uh,.th,., prop....iyo,.in,p,..,,„|y, hav.. ,1.. no „,,,„.,,, tho tnh„nal wi.e.o ,h..y ha,| a n.^ht to app,.al. V„„ know, si., if „ nru, i L u.U.rop..,.,y Ellis has ,ot to a,...„n.,t h,. tha, ..,-. „., „^kos . ,.rt 1,. Government an,l tl... ,„ .„ 1,,. .nak,.s ,h.. rcpor, to th. .i„vo..,.n,...t i,'is onts 1 of 1..S ,,ur.s,h.t.on, a..,l, i,' a.,yho,iy has „, ,.fn.„l it„ i, i. „,„ ,;„v......n,..,t ,ts,., K..^ ';;■"- '';■•-. -"> -^^^l ■!-- l.,. say ' ■' I-hat / was i,. h.k .. a..,l was ins,.l„ : J.y th. loc-k.t.,, ,.,.s, ah„..,l l,y ,!,. i.,.K.,..n.l....s, an,| I was l,n..l,,..,.„s. I ,|, - .mth.ng. A,„| h. ..v,.lo..,.osh.,ws..o.,.h,siv,.lv. h..yn,„| alU,„.stion^ thr.vi.i.,. of N.. .olas Hay ..„ an,i WilHan. H..i,! ,ha, ,his ...an a.,,',, „k.. a hla,.k; . u •"""f"" "f "'"• i ^ '- ''^f >" ""-■ '-"- an,l ,h.... is th,. i..po,., s.„t in ' ! ,: ago. wh..h .s th. host .vi,i.n.. of th.. fa,, that Ellis ,i.„.,| hi.,, U. that: an.l "n.iv altor a lapse ol hn.r o.Jiv. y.a.s. I.. ..on„.,s a,.,l .nak..s th. .on.plai.,,. J,. ,,i,, „„, nrake a ...nphunt at the t.....^ h.. .lid not ,o to th. o,ti... an.i ,l..na...i:,. invosfi,.,: tion. AMi.n h. .am.! to the .anal ..ili... M,. pn;. ,„,,. ,,:,,, ,.,,,, ^, . " ■"7,t' "^ ' '■;■ " "...."■. ... o„;,„ ;,.:„„:, ';;::; : : ::;;,,"*;,:::■■ •nJ I think yo,, „,11 com, ,„ ,l„. ™,„.|„„„„ „M >,,.s |,,„|,,,.|y a„,.„,l,.J il •- t(i v\liyf oiK'lit I brouglit to buar iiiKii W Thc« there is Captain Jamas Saurin ; m kuow what he was fined for fo. ur.g,.anryarth.a,,n«clnct^ Ho ,ay, h. came to Mr. EUi., an.l that M. klH ..a(«,nu.n r,u.tc cool.v. a„,i ,orne an^.y wonls „..„od . and Mr. Rlli, told him to lcive the o»uc. or soo.cthing like that ; h„t.l,o a,!,nus Id.ns.ll that, at the u- f , 'i-c .^."Pln.n, ,na,le, a,a..t hi.n. 1,. lo.,t h. tunpcr -.vith Mr. Morri on at u V It" U was hnea, and only deta.ne.l a .short tin. i„ th. aq„oduc. at ti,., .in K;- Mcd., and mad., no ..nplaint ,o Or.awa Ros. .-ay.s h. u.ado a .orni-la n. .o D Ferguson, and l.at Dr F.rgn.on .sold hin. ; did not act .trai«ht with him Whe„ , .nan su.ura that l.tor. .you, ..poci.lly with your knowlod^e of .-hnt .mmb r „f ,.rh,unent have to .. .so„u.r.n,c. I th>nk yon w,ll con. u, the conclu^o,: " , J .Ma.ght ; I do not th.nk ha .. .apabl. of acting otherwi.. Mr Saurin's J w '■■^wfiKHfed in the .same way. * Caj,tain McCoppen comes hon- w.th a icng n.outl,. Savs h. was fined ai Of, «.. when I said .0 hin. -Pid you ,.v tha, monev- l.said "No. I cSno mv •"■ .nd he un out lauglan, Capta.n Lark.n pa.d ,. Wh v did h ,ay it ^ B II (jt violated the rules of the -timl Wh^' r^^< t 1 • (.>"■' necausn .. Off With 3500 fine, for the iage^lone. ' '"^''" """' ''"' "''^" «'''' '^ Then Captain IIutiie'.s case— ' S^ <;?'™'3SI0XER-Y» need not .pe.l, of ,h.,. Then number thirteon, I think vou will bowl out THE COMMIS.SION'ER-Yes. . wit'outf jltn '"^ '""■' "'"^^"' '''■' '-^ "^■^'*"^ "• -'^ ^''^y — ^ not par THE COMMISSIONER-And it thr ev.d.nc. produr.d h... a. to ST, D.m«r • .ffKionrv is to b.> r.li,,d on, h. d.-.^crvc. th. money. MR. RVIvRRT Wr com., now to M... mo.^t .soriou.. . ha.g.-. of all ■ "Allowed ■v.,„. ,. now into th. , .nal f.om Uke Ene. in .fanua.y las,, though ho ha ' l" v o. ,n.„ ,0 piovnu .,, causing an r.timat.d dam.gc of .?2.5,000/ Well Vow "ir ■ ■M-.. .bH, point, I ,],. not wish ,0 pass ,u,v nllo.tio,. upon .Mr. (>,«., ,, ,„ o: [' '-. rarv, I hav. .,.ont,do,.. iu ,i„ ,n., ..bi,ity . and I do not bd.L ha M P t' ;.;- .^. not bian. .L El. . that;;,:.- ^:;'";:;;::Lt;r ^'t' Zci^z ;--r:;tt :^:n:r:r:^^:::-:-;rTr"fr ;; rhat any po.itiv. .n.t.u.t.on. w... g..,, , ,,,1 ..'^ti; J ,^,^ , ^^^ ^'- ^^op.log.s t ere, and it was f,. h„„ to givr th.. instructions. T 1 I ; le ■ opened, and thev were ordered to he .losed in ,88.0. • Now. vou w .1 .f. that n Mr. Page« report sent fo you. ot wbi,h I bave a eonv bn dn.= n.f r ........ ..in, ,i„„ . .k„„.^c ,..0. .,. .„ . „ ;.;::!;, :i;.,t^ :z'z ;:„■ r^ Mr V)) V ♦>, u . • ^^.iuJdrine.s. tney got scared about a htt e sometimB* Mr Ell s.thoiigh,^ It neces^aiy to guard the Welland Canal, and he wrote to OtZ!' .nd made a r.por. .-.pon it, and a gonticman wa. sent here to Lptrt up^o^ iijll A, I I Yi if matter; l,o .ou.ultod ^r.■ Elli.. nn,l r.^JLuvh-.l tl.n cr.tr, to h. .1 ,. by tl.e l.tter tl..t M,. ri.,n.,,,s,„. was «o,kij,, M,,.,. ; ,„■! ,1... „I „',. .f H . " ,. EUis „„,, Mr. Tho„„,.a . .. ...ay, ..nn.,!,,,; I nun.ot :„lli^ .^^ ' ' , l..l«. -, n,..I .xcmsod .upcn.su,,, ov, it ,h,o,,;,l, .^r,, Tho,n,Ho,. ; m', Ellis -., ' .lor , n M . T!,o,„p.,on. tl... re,,!.,,,, en^inec. Tliev. wl.cn u.mr.k.te.l u-ii' L placc,l.ln.,..,,ly«a cv you. ch;.,g.; ,ac.nti,n., you .ill U, J.l.a J t<^ (, t Bcc, ,vlnlc th. letter oftl,.. ICth ,.f F-.W..,. ..lorl tu rh./^m. X ,.t^ .^l:; Mo,, at t at tijne. 3n,I tie ic. .tt. tho. i. not one wur.l abonl .^.^ -ic ^ ^ a t r n,„ .lose ornav,,,,ti„n ; nu.l Mr. Pag«. in ni.= ..viacn.c. ..y ].? vcr ' such ,n,t..uot.on.s lu; ..y. : "The „nc. wero oponoa, an.l tl.v were orZ t^.' clo,,ea m 1 o cluru,,, the Fenian scare." Ho goes on to sa^ "The la L 1 •'gat., .houM be cloHod, 3t.,nn or no storm, at the clu.e of n vh,. io„ ■ I'.d . J.>nk there ,s no .louht about th.t : l,o..a,.o. if an accident happens uruth^n; o.day tle.o .. not the moan, ofstoppin., the water until the iolo o L I « En lowered. The turn le «ate. are ru that. po.mion th.at they >.„not he raised I v pn m a letter u. reference to that, .h.e .Mr. Ellis .Ira.., -.ttent.on to 1 a f. t letter i. ,>i Aprd .30th, 183.1. I an. not ref^.ting upon Mr. Pa,e at all • , L an omts^on up... the parr, of .somebody, Mr. Elli., a.s you wdl see. a 10,;': iS .. a-sked the n.paKu,ent to give hin. instruction., about the tntnb e '^.t ' a K • Colborn., and also at Port Robinson ; and ho sav«, in that let lor, "Tunrble nto ; provided at Port Colborno. an,!. I believe, at Port Robin.son ; bur t J^;^. ^ no prov..,.,n to r,a,se a.ul lou-er tlK.e at neauent interval, as there shon b" keep them Iron. aecu,nulat.on« of nrud and in goo.l ^rorkin, onl.-r. un' I .houV ; bo Klad to h:.vo th. authority to have prope, appliances put up at one b 1 : purpose. Now. Mr. Page a.lnnt. that if the ,.te. had been dosed, Jtl 1 " amount ol ,lan,a,^ would neee.s.avily have been done. Then I aske.I h ,.. ahout h Btop logs Mr. Page says there were .rr,.n,emonr. there lo, putting in hT t^ logs ; but y.K. wdl .00 from the in.tru. tiou. that Mr. Ellis had r,o autho tv to • in a.khnonal .top log., Th« evidence i.s that the water went four feet ov hi t ' au.l. even suj.posmg t.Kjt Mr. Elli. had put on r-v , feet nrore. the water wo , W S' have gone over that. Then, at page 2J '5, Mi Ellis save ■ -'T „nu . '™""^ ^^'^ "instrueuous iVom Mr. Page or ^u.bod else ^ t in ■!^ZZ^T1 ""' Then, on March 7th. 1885, Mr. Bradley wntos .s loll w. -T 2yt mu St' ;;of the .th in.unt. I an. drroeted to .nf;nm you that it i. .!; £ -^J ^ha^ f • etop-Iogs, at t e north end .f ,he ...e^v.y r. Port Colborne, should be m.^„ s t 'in the event of such ,,enoa., injury oc.u, ring to .ome of the ininoriant wo t •: that part of the Wellan.l Canal, a. to r.nUer this eour.e nece:!:^ j; sul^tr!: ll oM : 111 II' lit til It uiie .^rt III' tli. !.aii h.' fiTv\y 'i lo^c ; I. iiii! -Ui ii a iiiiin; I'l' U]i tlif Siljiply ! i"!i ; Ijoi.iiusc ymi ■ Mr. l\\!ir, tliiit .\; I'f wijti w:is tli lil.ii I' ''iitiielv ill 1,1, ,,v, .'•"on ; Mr. Ellis ;i,i II i!'toi' tliat to ^fi ii'-tiinrcd, uinlci hi '1 toni[il,..toil, will I , iKiascil to jillow tl.. saiijo." So, yoiiui' ••It tliO J^Mte.H llitlfitl. kufiliiijfjthuraclode': s.i.V-s lio never i^.tv, ' were orJeroil to l.- ■. "Tholactis, tl. avi.!pI,mV,„ ,„ ,,„ that. Mr. Pi,«c h,,| ,m.r ■'-'..' h,.\ an npportiuatv of ...i,,,, th. .t.nn „,, to tha, ],. i.|., TIuto n.vor wa, ..n occasion lor ,t b.fore thi.. H,, ,ay.4 ih... stop.jo.^ u,.„. h,.|lt ii«i»ial plan. Ill answdr to niv rjue.stion, he sari : ae oriliiig t') thi Xo spci'i.il iiititiiirtioiij wpio ,..^ on any furt her than tl- objo.t , onton,plat«.l wu. in kee,, tl.o ..rater out, and if ^ h.y wnr« not h,,h . ,^„„h ,h.v ahouM K, ,.ut nu. Th.y Uhl an.n.r the -nipn.. '.p to .I.u.uary 9th. No trouble ninne tho norlcs were ron.pl:..,! until Mien Tl... wat.r was n«v.r hi«l,..r (or thirty yoarr Thny .o,. l.,;r tho ov,,,. h.-i^ht thov w.,. M.hrn ^ons,n:,.,.,l ; ,,„| I „„po„. t]., ,,,,„, ,,^„, ,^,„^.^ ,;^^^,, ,^^.^^ ,.^;;^ ^ ^ "'.i" 'I'r- -Ti'^n, in iv^.-i. Mr. Kllis wrote the Dinurtnu-nt ..bout th. Fenian. • ■ .aul th..v w,.,v .„in, t„ blov „,, tli,. ranal. He was ordered in Feb, uarv, 1^S5 to .^ut tha 1, . and ..h.,r the R.ue.., a,.,; tlioy wen> to put in the .t.>p.I„,, "that were .bcre. riiat was iu ,.85, and yet the letter .lys to put in „o n.o,. .top-io^n I o not .ay ,t . r,dte.t,n« n,ou Mr. Pa«e ; I look up,..i Mr. P.,. a. a uio.t' eminent ^1, n .1 .ook upon In-u ,,s ,u uUni.ato triend. aud I would not .itt.uipt to ca.st auv .Uo..t on upon b.a. >..n- .onld I. b.ea.ue L. . a «eutienian of di.sti..,;.i,.h.,d .dn,i " Kco-M.ued all over tin. 0,-ntiuent. but the b.st men uro liablu to mak. ,ui.takeV .lr^ra-,..ay.it wiMho ru,.st e.xceptionai stoim know,, for th- la,t f.r, wears' but wl„.„ wi. ,„u,e to e.^a,ni^e tho qnc3t>on about what damage has been duue" Mr' lvVr,""r 7"!''' """ 'r° *''">^'''"''^'''^ 'la.na«e.veuif,he.a,c.shad'bee,; ; o^ed. and I think tlier. ,s uo doubt whatever that tho v,i,..r would hav. ,i,.u, .vw. iftheKuti-. wa.o.elo,cd. to ti,u .„„„. height over the stone wo.k ,dong the ranal -•er the stone Kicn,,, and that u would have w.ashed the banks; because it ia in .vu once h.,e tuat ther. wc.e sto ms of the year before that, and two vea,> b.dbrc rhat, whce tl... wuu.r r... two or three feet over the ttoue an.l washed'th. Ivuikn •ae water i:ou„„g iVo.u Ldu.- Erie, and it ha., been in the habir of doin« that If •r.ere rs any lault t,,. b. ..:,„nd it was in not havi„g that b,i,di enou.di. Dia that thi>- .'.as an esecpt,o,r,l storn. ad,n,t,. .,i ,„. ,loubt whatever, that thei^e was a wind • .0WU..1J and wbwievur 'h. wu,d -I.e. blow upon the ranal, and the water ri.es, it V , sues the oauks eon,i,.,u,l,y. So tnat when it i. said the whole dama;-.. wa.s caused -•• thrs I think ,t IS an e„i„.. uu.nake. The .videnco .how. that f.r the Ur..t time >n tUnty vear. ba.k, at any rat., that the water opene.l the lock-gatc at Port •lutlaud. where the.e i.. a drop of eight feet into the lake. So vou L it was ar. -:.'ept,o,ial storm, vuich no perso.i could .nmi^d again..t. M,'. .Secord says that wh-n .: -cut to bed at n o'clock he had no rcasou to believe the.e wonl.fbe a ..v er ^W' Z e ' " "T' "r •'" "" " '''' '' '' ''••'• ^-^ ^^'' ^"'« to blame , . a,it , It se ,„8 to me that ihis is outside of your cncjuirv. Iu ti,. lirst place, vou ::: sr^'r.?"^'. " '^'..i:''^^ ^^'^ '"-'^ i^-d ins judgment ui,^t-"f ^Li^fjH'' r''"''" '^' ^I'v"' "hoiiy;,bw,;;:'u;;rhe'w,;;iidhaveso .epo ted to the (government, and they would have uu-L- Mr. EUi., p^v the penaltv font, I he Government are seized of all tho.se la.ts, .audi '■:?araiue the m.itler liiUy, they wili come to the conelu.« -iijle, and that it i,s ni. run satisfied if they , , -'^iun Mr. Ellis i.- not lespon- will rnn p t , t. T ''"'" "''''''' ^'° '''"''' ""' ^""^''^'M'-'te. So I think vou wdl co,ne to the conelu.sion it is not a c.iso in which wo can ... • . X. .,,,. T-. . - -••• ni'iki' anv complaint ^.aumt Mr. £.li,s, Tno Govornment were in po.ssession of all the fac^., and rouki vass an opiniou upon ,t U they cho.se to do so. Hut I referred to the evidlnce put to show M.-. P,age must be mistaken with, regard to giving instruetious ; an 1 I lo '111?, I ] i I jl i U. knw 1 '.?''" '''"'''" "'■• ■^''- 'V- •'ays h. know, notlnngof hie ou ^ I ;!• \ ■, ' ''' '"' '"■''^'" '"^ '■"1"'" t'-'-'f *^ «•""''! '-^^t S-25.000 UVlrn 00 hatt heo.-..hna,v ga.Ksotn.e,, ...ploycl year alter vear, with tho .vc.p . tuo additional ..en. have h.en .n.ploy.d wUh other work alon. tb^^Tau' ha other w..,. a. .,..,..,, do,, alou, .i.h this : .o that th. da.na,;,;^ ^'2 unucd. It has b..n Mu.wu ,l.a a laV^e a,„o„nr of ,„at..rial .L n,to tU- cuur every year ho.n wasi:.. : and wi.u th. host heave, the bank. Th t ho^ oxraordiuary aet.on upon the end.ankn.en,. Vear alt«r year a hu- ' l.o^^t . > ai altu yt.u >. i ,,y „ ,, ,,„, ,^^„, ,^, ,tt,i|,„,, ,|, t,,;^ damaKe to on. .ton, he ..tn.KUe was nude, and :he eros...et,.„. taken, son. tin.e alteftlL 2, i place , .. u IS utt-riy nn,,oss,ble to say hou nn,eh is attributable to this, NoSN, w.. ..o.ne to the general nianaKeineut of the .a.ial. I Omk I do n, n^n-e to put .n any evideuee l.elore y.u of the eniei.,,,.. „■ u. lock e « V ha e-the evnlenee ol tug-owners, tu^-eaptain., and ot],er gentIon,en wl ^ J, ut,U.,ng t^he eanal and they invariably eon,e to the eonciu.io ' and . , ^ J ' hat the loek.tender. have done their best to get thetn through th,' 'in IV he cvulenee o Captain iiawder.ly, Captain Ar.n.tron,, Captain Sa.,r C, ta ' ..in. .heir v... th.ngh. s„ \ Hn-^r^^rir tirL: ^ir^^^^^^^^^ .anal ha. been uli.e.ently n.anaged by the loek-tender. a. .ar a, thev are!^ ^n ' ;^ --"--;v to n,en.nh.gherposU.ou.. along the eunal. I do tot hi k need ,,ay much about the n.auageUK.nt ol Mr D.uure : ht. nuu.ageu ent I a ha gueii.uuae .atrsiaeiion. He eouies hue nin\ .„ i i '"^.^''U'ent ,o la. hu= with a .ertiheate ol character iron:./ P. ti,! 7 ZiT^ T T'' ''"'^'" ^jervu.g n.n, a capuui nun, b.th eucgeti.. and skUied.' V^,,. .^ T ' tlha bear.s lestini.my m the ^aiue direetion u,.! I i i, i ' "^'^■'^•^■l -^J' So.clusi.n that. ., ,ar a. he ,s eunee^! J hJ , t^ T TT '" '^' ,pou hitn and charged hi -ith having 'l^i^'^^^,!^;::: Z^^^^t own private nu)n,,se.. craiusi il>. ;..f.,..„„.., ,>■ ., ' . "^"^ ^'"'*' '"» '"^ e V. as nii.stakeii and own private puri^.e., .gain.t the iutere.st« of the government h uot justilied Hi making the charge With rjjgard to Mr S.uyth'. uiatiagotnuut, we leave tiic ..xord of M,- Suntl who IS uu old and valuable -ervaiu on the caiiui W - 1 .v ,1, . ■ • ' n... who are not .oittical inend. of t:" ' h^l^^ t: '.^"^ ^a CaptaL. .Norri. aud .Ir. Xo^lo.. Hohe.c C.ultct';:ar;: ^l^ to^^: oppose. ,0 ,„„ ,,oht„n!!v. wl,o have ccne lu.,,. volunr.Mlv au,) ho,,.- fo.tin.c.v t,. .H .n. oa,c,o„,.v .„ the .na„.ge,„«..t of th. ..„at h se.„s t,. „.e vou T . ^ on,,.,h„..o,„..lns,o„tha.,,),.tHn,ythl,a.a.te,l,„ th« ,.„...]... int^.^.r .„i , ■l^'initv s„j,..,„„,.„,l„,„. h,, ,ii,.,,,,.j,„, ,,i, ,,„ti,, f,i,h,ully ;„,l well As ,.ga,.ls the ,.,u„.ge,.,c„t of th. ...k.) hy M.-. ]£lli«, r do „c, th„.k that vu„ >.n. ,.o„t to :, .s.„gK. .(.twuent ,„ th. ..v„le,H,. whi.l, will ..3,-,a,.t vo„ in .o.nhiKto ..yoclK.,-,..o„cu.,„. ,1M„ tha, M,. Ellis l,a. ..anag.l the c-alweli. m" Si : :;;f ;;: u'?,r'"r" ' "r r^^'"^^ '"" ^^ '^ *^'^ ^«--^>- ■^' "- --^ mei.t. M . ,\r..C.ll,„„ I,.., stu,ho„sly avoided asking a .ine.stior, as to whetJie. he ■nnj-age, the .„., .. ,, „, ,,,, ea,,tai„ Ko.s. Captain Lnin, Captain M ^pp^i •nd C pta„, H„n,e all have p,.ivate g.ievanees of thei,- ow,,. Xot L s-'n^le ,, a, ::^ :t ;:t\;: ;7'';v'^":;' r^-^ ^ '-'^ thatobs^v^tiiin! T • '" " "' '^ ■■'^'^ '''' ^l"^^'"""" '^^ ^" ^'"^ n>anagem.nt of the attacU.g tlH ,na„ag.,n.„t ,.t the ,anal, t,L.,e arc dozens of .nen within vour t. ^ou .an go back aud ,:xa„„„e ,„t,> the ,nanagen,ent of the canal f „• the pa8t ; tn;;;'^:'.;;;;::;" t "1""^ """^^ " ^'^^ "^ ^^^" -'^-^^^ -^ ^ ^^s. .0 ,1; to\ n '■'' ''•""• l^"""^"^'"^'>-«'"'-''"^ and it .ill ,.en.ai„ as a n o.u„ne, t to M. Llh. .nanagement lor all time to co.ne. We havo the evidenee :; r;: z:;;"/t'^^'' '""''^ -' '"^^ ^- '-' ^-^^ i^'-t^- ^ genial t ; , I' 'i''f'>^ "' ^ l^"K'.' out..-,'p>-,se in .Are,ritt,.n, the paper tmll; he testiir^g as ^t u, efh,.:ent u,a„age.nent of the .anal. We hav. the toslunouv ^Av^^' -ko .say. no ,nan has over eon,plained of hi. u,anago,ue„t, M,-. Pa.e ,J^eZ car .,0 cotnpla,nt.s of M,.. Eili. n,anageu,c„t." He .ays that at pa^e ui' itok upon that a. „npo,tant tcsti,nony. M'o have Alexande,. Mui,. who has bl a m ong Relor,,u.r who has no friendly f.eli„gs towards this Govert^unt ; , 21 ul 0. o .Mr S n,tl, and Mr, Den.a.e, Then we have Mr. Baldwin, tna.ager oftho Ogdeu.bu,g Iransportation Li„e, . gen,h.„,,n who controls a la,.g aTJuJt o" tnUhc con,.ng th.ough the -anal; he says Ellis 1ms done mne], o Lukretl -al : he ha. .nanaged it etheieiuly : he want, to «oc no cha„ge. Thl r^e^ r,.sia. ut o the Hefoian Assoe.at.o,, I do n.,t k„ow whether that is an liono.able I a.e 0, not ; I aur not in the .ee.ets of that o.gani.at.ou at all ; but j'lgir '^ .uy owt, organ,.at,on. I ^vouId thtnk that it wa. not vcrv h.crat ve at a", r u, H W.itthous, ot ron.n o. vos^el-owuer, und other persons who have a .i^^ht to lhi ;! I'll esUfy. to he goo.l managen.ont of M.. Ell,. So vo., ,„„m <.ome to th,- < on.ln.sio., he canal ha, t.ean efficently mana^e.l hy Mv. Klli. It i. true that little thil have cro,pe. up .r« aud there; In.t look at ,he gigantic uorlc whi.h is «oin, o?, He h bee. hero tor ton years : and what can you say against Mr. Ellis ? He has Kot 249 pu.kets; that is all ho ha. put .u his pocket and that not paid for by the -vornment ; he, ha. had sod bronght to his house, aud a few loads of gravel ;" and or two occasions, but his .^hole interest has been i. favor of the canal L th.e AT.d the last poiut is the testimonial to Mr Ellis. I pointed out to vou. and 1 now show you that M. Conway, the n.ana.er o, the canal at Lachine, the genera superintendent that he has ha,l a testin.onial giv,,n to bin, repeatedlv, and that too, wub the knowledge of the Government,, giv.n to him in a j.ubli; place con,' ...ented upoo by the merchants of Montreal i,i the Board of Tr.de, and public ):itone y giveu to it; and yet there has been no ,en.onst,ance. It is a n,atter of •til to vn 'pr'^'lT" T'^"^ '^"'' ^^"''^^' '^"^ '° ''y ♦^'•■'^ ^">' "«ti»'^"ial Th T A T ' ? '■ "' " ^''"'""^ "'"'''"•^'''•' ''^' ''-''y '"■ "--^lution, Ifke that of the fhorold Township, or otherwise, is given in consequence of a .service to a class in the community, I think is not justitied. But Mr. Ellis, when he came here, was in au unfortunate position. I do net know that you are here to expose his private aflairs, THE COMMISSIOXER-No. MR. RYKERT-He came heroin an unfortunate position; aud if thev gav. hi,ii a U^stimouial, It was uot lor the purpose of making hi,n giv. the.n a .^uidpro qao. He has acted m the public iuterest, and I think the testimonials have had uo derogutory etie.ct on the public iut«rest. And, with these remarks, I submit with ail conhdeuce, that, after a careful review of the matter, you will repo, t that the whole investigation, lioin beginning to end. was prompt..! by malice, bv a personal ?pit9, lu the uiterests of a man named Mossip, who ^^ as totally unwJrthv of auy truet being reposed iu him. I make those observations because Mr. McCalluni charges that this niau was unjustly disu,is6cd. .\ow, we have shown he i. a man totally unworthy of the conh.leuce of anybody, unworthy of being employed; aud all the chaiges, from beginning to end, are based entirely upon the evidcuce of dis aj.pointed men, who have been turned out of office because they disobeyed orders or for. drunkenness, or for the violation of some rules, which were la^cessary to' be enlorced lu order to have elhcieut management on the canal. So I think you will come to the conclusion that the whole thing, Irom beginning to end, is a trivolous and vexaliouD en.,uiry ; aud I w..uld u,-ge uj.on you strongly, if I l,e permitted to do so, to make such a report to the Government as will satisfy them that there waa no ground ior the enquiry ; that while you make your suggestions, as I know you will do, about the management of the g.'eat ,mblic woik, I think yuu must come to the conclusion that no portion of the repo.t will be able to fasten upon Mr Elli. auv stigma 01- any chai'ge that he has acted in dereliction of bis duty THE COMMLSSIOXEK-I wi,.h to just say, at the close ot'this invcMigation, Ln^'Tfi'-'i , I ''"°''^"' '"'H>«^"""^^v of doing it. and 1 wish it taken dQ^^n. that 1 have been exceedingly gratified at the courtesy that has been extended .to me personally by the partie. conducting the case, by Senator MeCallum on the liiii. fi till- couohisioii at little thuifT^ liiili is f^oiu^ nil Ellis ? He has I paid fill" by tlirt of ^Tavel ; ami ffineut upon onc- ? canal and tlic It to you, and I ne, tlie gcnoial idly, and that, blic placo. com- ide, and public is a matter of my testimonial on, like tliat of ivico to a class 39 I think, ui ,, vury .a.efu] mann-T I .hall nrobablv HuA it , ' "' ' ■''"^'^ ""■'• '■iMium.'.^ in connection ^vith this matter in rprird .„ .h« O" • i I do net I if they gavo leni a :^uid pro ■h have had uu I sulimit, with spoil that the by a personal worthy of any Ir. iicCiUmu n he is a man mployud ; and iilcucf of ditj. jyed orders, or lucRssiiry to ba link you wjU is a frivolou.s -Tmittod to do thuro was no now you will >t tome to the Ur. Ellia any invcftifration, wish it taken icen uxtouded dlum on th9