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Welland Canal Commission,
ARGUMENT
(»!•'
J. C, RYKERT. Esq.,
COUNSEL FOR MR. ELLIS, SUPT., ^
HKK(.»KE
A. F. Wood, Esq,, Commissioner"
l.'lTHplbVKMHKK 18S9.
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to Mr HvL-..it M,- , . ■ ''"*''■''"'*'»">'!<. on.t a Si, uinfs
;™.fl :,u. ,■■",",:: :: ;^,r:; "'"' •";";■'""• •■""" '■■ " ■>
expense whrM wouM l',- eutiilf,! hv i> <.,. i i . .>. '"«i nnonifr th»
MR. -^I'^-'ALLl'M - -F c^ni'' i)roiiai'«(l 111 jr.ti, ti .,
THE COMMISSIONER-! .ould ... ,M ,o have v.nn h.l„ „. th. n.-r., ,r
'iifiiiiiing up. Ill "lie ni^>T»i ,)(
MR M<rM,Lr.M.-I IM uo. .on,. b»,o U., that ,.u,,.„„ , ,,„,„, ,, , ,.
THE COMMLSSIONI.:R-Vo„,. .t..t.,nK.nt .ou!d u..r ,. ..v,.i.„,. ,„,1 ..„„,
"..1v h. as explanatory, IV.m. you. .ta.nl,.oint of the evid.noe ^
MR. MrCALLUM .-B,.r I want to «.t mv arKu.n.nt
MR. M.f.ALLlM- lor th.> binelit of the puhhr
.>iK. MCLALLLM— \ou have the evulcnci' m.l r ,..,.„» »
...Id what 1 .ii,I pn.ve, an.i von .hall ,. th 1; vb the di. 'ir'7 "'' '° '''
THE COMMISSIONER--, snppo. .„, o.L. t . , ' ^ ^uV. Hke t
ne a.(k..l in your pointing our p«rsoualJv s,u h po.„t. as you col,l . I? i , . .
vourevidcnoH, ,„d I w,ll t.ke notus; and ,f M R vkmVelsrto LP ^ ' ''^
to any point, l.e thtnU ho ha. .nad. on hehair of 1, Jur s^M T' "'''°"
rha, ; hut I do not prop., to assume that e,,hor v ur a^u, e / 1 '^:' j"
a-guni.nt. IS goiuf? to he corrupt. I do not n,ean to ,JlT ^'''"'
a..^v.. „. th.. eviden,.. , propose to .j:,:ZZ:': Z^r "T "^, " ^"
""'1e.-.tann why you .shouhi ir,aist upon its he.ng „, t yp.> ' " ''" '"
-MR. M.CALI,[-M~My un lerstan iinR wh.s that Mr' Holl,nH >
^ereand take th- argument down. '""'^ """ «'""« '" t'*'
THE COMMISSIOVER-I did noi ,„tend fh., »»,
^alled upon to pay ^,00 si.nph th.t I „lh U b nlf^T'"""""' ^'^^''^ '"^
t.v,.. I could get the l,e„..H, without thrStonL apt, •■'""■ "*^""""" '"
MR. McCALLFM Th- eviden,. ,s beforf vou an.l I ,
—e, ....port. , ,„.,... „o n.h, ,0 .av von wd n. „ T ^"" 7." "'«'''• *
riih COMMiSSfONEK- This deeimoa of uum w« ,.«.,-h«d after l.ar. . ,
• Md I wrot.. you immediately. " '*"''"*! '^•'■••
MR. McCALLUM-1 got your letter yesterday.
THF. rOMMlSSIONEK-I »vi.,t. y..n Kifoiiiiinff yon .jf tlm fmt tliiit the
«(ivi'rmiii-iit j,MVf iiif to uuili'i>f.iiiit tli.it in the ^niimiin^' up it i> u iii:it«»>r |.ii mv
nwii iiiiliviilinil |..r,r»n,il liciii'tit iii.i il I mi ai!liii.^ to takf tin iiH|.oii-,(l>ilitv of
<lirf.:tiii>,' Ml Hollaii.l to ri'|i.iii lli.' •ij;uiti.-iit tm mv l.i'ii*>lit, ;it i st m( Aioo, \t \,
nil ukIiI.
MR. .M< PALLl'M— \',nv wfU ; ymi (an mipi iij> th.if ninUd Von hm ;.. •
tho ivultiici ilii'iv an<l <lo not want iin a'-si^taiii' ^ ; Iml I «,intnl, in )UMti<c ii
mvself, iii.instire to this wlioU- cust , a- I think tin- Hiijiinifut ^liouM Iv time, mm!
if 1 li.i\-c nit ptovt'l \Ui.if 1 sav. ail ii;;lit. an'l f will not >,'o :\ st< |. Inttli.'i, \'m
'•III) ^i« on
.MI{. TiVKERT — .Ml. .rolmsiun uili take 'li.iwn tlif aiauiu'iit
MR .NIiC.\I..LL'M--i li.ivf no It-cliiiij iiIhuU iheniatli-i.
THE lO.MMl.SSluXEIi -Voip t..n- is imt pluasant. Vou mv I . an go on.
OtLouiHc I \vill j;o ■111. it I M'. lit. ^vitloiiif .i.s|;iii<r .■iiivInmIv s I'ciuii.^sion. | want to
tell you, lii'lmv you {,'0. I will li,i\e that tikeu itown m lypfwritinir, so ili it vom
will liavi- lu) u.viu-e
(Mr. .McCilhini ntiiv;-
MR. RVKF.nr I Mill soiry Mi. M(("alluni flii'v ma pa.-.nion. ] i\|„,i,l i
liavo iln; bi'iii III of his arj.'iinifnt -ami to ansui-i it.
THE COMMISSIONKlt I will write to Mr. MiCallnm t^lllll- hiin I uill h.r.,
the art,'uiiicMit taken ilown in shorthand, ami wiittt;ii oni, , (Hinni-iiLing at J oVhuk.
AJ.iouruod till 'J 1'. M.
AFTER ADJOrRXMFXT
THE CO.MMISSIOXER— I .s(Mit a toiiiiniini.ation to Senator McCalliun, .stating
that, as hi' had siuh strong IVelinf.'n with irr^ivnc.' to liivino his ar;,'UMi"nt icpo.ud
i' typiuiiting. that I had dci id. d to < niploy .Mr, Johnst. o. an (Xpert, -.vho w.i,
} resHit, lor that piir}>o.-e, foi his bruclit, ami tot tho hcinfii ot'.Mr. Elli.s; and thai
hoped he would hf here at 2 o'(.lo. k to ;t;(. on « iih his iiifuinciit. f nnty statf
that I ivccivi-l a Itttd from .Mr. -McCalliHii, in whi' h Ik- dc. lines to pioec-d «itb
his argument. He thinks h... w.is not faiilv treitc I in fli.' matter. an>l d.-. lines t(
^0 nil with it
THE rOM.MJrfSIONER — I m,iy state her.- that I intend to avail njvseli. h.toi,
I nmke out my report, hy j.pplyin;; to .Mi. V.u^i- \\,\ any information I niiy eon.sid.^i
ne-essny in rfteieiici to thi-s matter. WhciiHei I apply for anv inloiination l
think is of sudieient iinportamc I will send a copvofit hioc f.. voii, s" that v(
will know p.xactly th«.' (^in!stion an I icplv from luiii. in I I shill pidhihlx siipplv
Ml. MeCalhim with tin smiK.- tiling;. I rp>,'i(f very imieli tint Mr MiCillnn
shouhi have felt hurt at anythin.s 1 shoiiM have siid. fioin the fa( t tlint i,i\ (in!'-
olijf.^t in i-'fiisint; to have it in typ( \uitiiii; was siinplv t ?natter of iconumx .m.
saviiijf ,111 exp('ii.si» whieii f i'oiisideii'(i iimiei essaiy, and I had no i.hi th.it Mi
Mef'alhim was ,so excei'dinsfly anxion.s to ivacli the puhlii thioiiffh fh- tviiewiitin.'
And now I I all upon .Mr Ryk'it to proceed with .i!i\ ivniaiks in wislns i
mak( 111 (onneetion with this matte-
MR RYKERT- I reirret ev,..,.,!>, .,,!.■ (i,;.! m, v],., .,,11,,,,. „ i,,, j^ ,. ..,.,.j. ,,, ,
makt" these charges in the S('natp. and who has lieon the cau.se ol tins ( oiiiinissi.,:
hcing issued to iiiako an in(|Uiiy luto the tnamtgeirient ot the Canal, should have ,,
3
thelftst mimut .1erlin«d the oHVi- whirJi von m..!- i i,.. » u
r.".t...| ,„ h.li. II., I„„ MO ,H'I„ I , , , '"■"'','"'" ^" '""'" »"•' arKim..ntr«.
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'l<H.bt y.,.. i,.okt..| „po,. i, i,. th.;, li,h, , ''"•>•' "•""^■'vr.l-aml I have no
the l„t„re imu,(,nu.m ot th,. .a„-.l ., ' ' i ' ""^^ ■^»8K'stio„8. as to
i.iea that Mr. MrCUlUun . on!,! 'av 1, u * *".'>n.enee,„ont F ba.) „o
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1 iiirii]itly , 'Ii.it if tlipv !i:uj inailf nii.Ht^ikvs timt ihflv arte<l mi their host Jii'lu'nctil,
.•ll|i| il \S:ix )illl(ly ,111 ilIOl III' illilffllU'llt I'lUl, It ■.I'fllli'il, tlolil tlic Very mmiiiihiiip
mtiit, iliif till' inmicd x'liatoi liail .JirtTinl liih altciiti.iii p.ii li'iiLiih auA i'«|i. iillv
to iiivcsti«afiiij,' siimll, tiitliiifj '■1imij;i>, in.itti m n'llimi'v imt ullii lin^' llic iii.m.iv'i
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wliitlevor til till . w i;li wliii li tin- (iov iimiiiil, I iii'iy -lay, iiiivt- iintliiii^ to iln, iii.iiiN
III' wliii'Ii )>avi' Ih'i.'Ii |i|i'm iiti'il t'l tlir f i«vi'i iiiiniit yi'ill < iigii Mini {iflKsi >l ovi r ill (HI li" t
^tli-iKf. I Miy I imtiii'il In, III th< vciy loiiiihrinfiiieiit tlini that w.iv tin' iliill nl ili'-
Sciiutiii's I'bsi'i'Viif iiiii>.
Si>\\, wliat t!iH imblii. \\t* unximis Im in this j^iwit mniiiiry was tn kimw .il!
•ilioiit the ia.ui:ii;i'nii-iit of tiic catiiti ; aii'i I liavi- im •Imiht you nutirni. Irmii ili '
voiy noiiiiiii'tK fimnt until tln' ilosf nt thi- invfuiigaiiun, mi tlic |iiirt iil iln- |ii(i,si'i u
lion, that mil lOii- sintjli' i|iiosiii)ii >v;i.i \>\V U> a witiif.ss iitioiit tli»' Uhuiiij^i'im-nt nl il."
laual ; iiot oiin sin^ilo i|iicsr.ioii whn .'i:<kril nt ;iiiy )ii ismi ('Xit^iit Mi. I'.iki', llii- kiiv
last pHi'soii wild, from his jmsiiimi, imirIii ik he itskfilito n\\r .in i'|iiiii(ii) ulmut >iii h
H ni.itli'i. Nut a .siiigli! witiii:sM wasiiski'il thf ijUcKtimi wiii'tlu'i ur imi thf cannl w.ih
wull or luopt'ily iniiiia<{Cii. That i|Uf>li(iii w.is i-ntiioly i^jnoH-.l. It wu.s within hi»
province to liuvn hiouvhr ixj't'it.s Juir. imii iifalnlitx !Ui<i iwiiiiiiiun, nl whom \m«
liavf jiliiity iti this couiitiy, liki' Mi W iltci Shaiih ami hUhts, \\li(> miiiil liam
tonic ami tL'^tili^ll with ri'ganl to t hi' iiian.ijjfim'ni ot the canal. Not one ul' iliiin
lian been hnnijht hero to qut^stion Mi. Kll'.s' iimiiagcim-iit ; but, on tiic cuntrai>,
ijnestion.s liavi' hci'ii aski'ij, ami opinions '^ouj^lit to he nbtaini'ii, t'roni persons who
hud fcfUngs of hostility towaiil- Mr. Kills, uihI who wi'if not at all i oiivci>:iiii
with tlio nianaj{i'nifint of the caicil. Nm^', .is I s.iid, tliu rountry had a li^dit to
expect that, and von Imd a lijrlit to c.\pi>ct tlmt, fioni tin- pio.'^ci.ution; you had a
right to know whtthc- or not, Irnni iIp' cxpiuiciio- of imn like Mr. Sh.inly iUid
olhciH, .Mr. Ellis conducted tlii> cmil ]iropi'ilv. '\'oii arc not called Upon imi
would the (ounliy th.mk you to mvotigatc a lot oi ..liarguM of a j^iuieU pci onai
churactci', wliuh had bctoi explotlcd _\cars agn.
Xow, aunthei thing must have stiuck you duiiiii.' tiie iiive-itiKation— th.it al!
tljer<B trivial idiarges biouglit ajcainst Mi. Elli>, aic of a stale i h.ir.n tir, dating l>.ek
to 1.880 and ISM, di.'wn to tlirec or lour years ago; hut not a singh emiuiry h.i-.
been made as legai'db tho niaiiagcniciit of the riiial ; not a >ingle euiiuirv his hien
mado about the troubles with olhfial.s in the last thit'e or four years ; but. I ^.i>
inuttiTS of an old character, which liave iin bearinj.' whatever on the management i4
the canal, liu'e been brought up. 1 am >oi'ry to say--and if the Seiiitor wcie hiii'
1 would make the same observation, although I would not wi^h to s:iy anytliiiif
rtflertiug upon Mr. McCalluin one way or the otiuu, or upon any peison, if I eouhi
avoid it — that there .nppear.s to be -^onn thing personal at the boitoin nf thi.-" matter,
and can come to uo other condu.sion when 1 look at tlie .-pii.-h whii h was rehiie.i
to you for invrstigalion. and which, 1 bi lie\i'. wa.s your naki'd iustru. tinii>
THE COMMlStSIOXEK-Yps.
Mil. RYKKRT— ^Vhcn that speech was referred to thi^ ("oiiin i^>iiiii loi invsii
gation, one could not fail to se,j that it was purely a privnte matter . ihal, underlyiii;,-
this w hole enijuiiy, tlieri' was a venom and spite mair.fcstfid against Mr. Doniare jiartir
ularly, because he would not employ Mr. Mossip.
MlnMMluo„,.l,M...«.,l,a,K..,.h,,m...iIya.|,.«n. I ,.,..,...« ,o ...U. .
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KH. flu. •u.u .„nf„.n,.,H .•.nplov.uru., an h. ha.| a 1h«.. ra„„!v ,.. ,„,„.,„ |
""••• ''■•'»'"» '«"' '■""".V. l>s>. «,v„,^Mn.. Ih. „....o,M Khv h..'-.,ul.| ...t .uu.l,:
:;';!^„"""" '""',?." '•"'■••"- !->■,. ,.,,.1 .,„.,,..„ „m.,, .;.:';
MrCllmn n.a. .•. pul,l„h..., in ,h,. ,Se,..t.. „ p„,ts .., U,,,t .lu,.. .N,,. Kll.s hn. .-u ^
_ ...nplv ,hat h,. ,ll.i,.„,p., ,,.,1 «..n..r;.I l.oaring ,..,var,K h.s !..„. |„., h. ,.„ ,..
•v., ..„.. (hat at las, „ 1,,..,,„„ ui.h.an.hl.. ,.„.l .ntohTalio M.. 1,,, ,„.,,, „ .j,,,, ,
-a.ul Wie thoroughly a.v.ua.ute.l vtl, ,).. „,„k, „„i «.■ a.e anuou. „". k...,',
-huu; and a Ithou,-!, Ik has „ .v.d ...veal w«n.,„ps.„ ,1..,, ,..,,, ,h.v h.v ! ,
I .av th.. wlK,l, ..,,n,.iat.un uf ,1mh .n.,,mv a.is.., „..„. ,|„. „„ ,„., M, ni„
-uh ,.ot ...pl.,., a.Hl kuc.p in las ..,..ploy,.»..u, a ,.k.u na„,.l M..s,s.p, .h... ' .
M. McLal u,u .ay.s .k .. vou... ma., .,r «„o,l reputati,.,. an.l ...ha.v.,:,..;, .„.i ,,„
jfisoi. an «l,ouh. h. ..u.plov,.,! J» ,lo^, ,eem to ..u. that Mr. M-Callun, „„. r h. ■
.-.. .U.H.h.,1. .fa„y p.,so„ , o..l.i h. satisHe.l. h.-fo... h. .h,. ,, LUZ^lCX'
M...MP was „.-t a ...an ..I su, h a d.a.a, I. , a,„i ,epu,al,o„ an anv .uv, , „„.:,., , .; I,i
'■u^Vloy. .(ust lot. u.e po.ut out here that the.v Lave Wn callrd upo„ M, M.CaUnu
l"half tw...,ty w„„essc.H, U, tCMtily as to tho .-haracte.- ,.f .\f,. M,,,.,,, Th. ,- . ■.
. )g!,t ot ,hc.e who hav.. s«.n„ that h- wa. a,. agr....ahh. n.u.. to «...,-k m ith. hut five
n .. ,h.. ...ht have .wo.n thn- his .oputation for h. i..g of .. .,.,3„.H.„,„e .lisp Li
l>u ua. ^vdl.kuo^M. tlnouf,! ■. . -h. vilbK- of Poit nalI,ou..., wh-r. h. ,.s 1
h- ot iHT tuolv. w,tT,r.s.>. hav. unhe,sil..tu.gly sw..,,. th.at h,- was of a ,,..an..N.,„e
w.uM „o^ work w.th h„„ ur.,1,., any ■ i.- un.staua.s; but ,h,. ...n.r.l ,,«„cv,.m.
.t .- hanlly ar. ..saiy .or ..... to ,|„..,.t ^.n,r atu„.ti„„ . I„„ ,.„„ will li,..l ,he,„ .on
..^..c.ng at, pa«,. ".N. an-i ..x,...n.linH awa> ,lou ,. ,o p,.,, „0,.. ,.,.,, ..„ .,„ « . ,h ,
.-;m ",1! hav.> „.,M.rv.,l that, duri.,;; th„ .onauot ,.r,l,i. ..,„|„,,v ■, 1.,.,. „nn n'
-...•SS..S ..11.1 >,. M,. M..Callu.., hin.self hav. ..n ..nly , ,on H,,. .l^ „ Z h:'
' :': '"'^ "'':•" --;'---tion. a,In,itto,i that U. .J, , ...all , ", ;
.>l ...... as..o,.„.,...l wa , pa.ti-.ularly as a wo..ki„g n.ao. Th. ,,.. p.^,,,; ., .
.. Ins (avor onlj ..p..ak f.o... thoi.- k-unvi..,!,.. .wM.in. ,.,,,.. M hv v,,Hi,,. vnh'i..
'■■m, two to th..e.. weuks in th.-. ......rs,. .,f thrn. or fo.u s..,.,.. ■ ,1.;. ;.„„ . r .
-r... said h.- w..,.k..,, with hin. wa. .onn.hin, Hk.. Jt ;;::iX:iuZ
>....... .. rhn-e or Jour year. As ,a, as th.. prose-utiou . , .uc, ..e,l. Ly ^
.nt,r.ly a.le.l to ,.,ak.. out any proof that M,. Mussip w.s a .n a wo.tl v. ^H. "
uodrbthty. or a n.a.. worthy of being etnployed upc. the ca..al. T.ke the ev ic .
ai ' "';;'",;":• r- ' "•"'•— •• "'^ '--i. ....i ,i,„.« wh.. i,.v. i,...,.
I.U- U ... u urn, .... .lU u„M I.. iH. ,u«K-i.u,. „Hl, „„i ., M.u. „.,..« m,.-!, vi„|..,..
1 « t,r«t ,,..>..„ .1.,. -,...k.. ,„..nulv u,..,. ,|,a, ,.„iMr u..« M, l,,iKv.tv. „l.o. :., ,.„,..
■■: • :"•*;■ ■ • ''••'^'■' ^''"' I-'"-'"" •■ ",. . „ ,.„. ,. V..,; ,,i...«..„t L...
""' "" '""' "'•■•'■■• ""■"• « '^ • --itv to, ,. ■ II,.., ,,„„. ,f ,,,., ,, , ,;
»H.Vp, -In. s..V..;il> , ^Mf.lt .I..11! ilt tilli.s
, '''""• *"■' '^ '" '■' '•" '"'"pi- ■'• 'I,. ..,..1,.,.,. wiM, I. u,. |.,.v.. I.,.,M,.. M. So
' '';"" '"; '';;'^"'"" "- -•«.vi..K <!.■.. v" '.,„,,, ,„ ti,. .»,„i.,.i,„.r,o,„,he
.M.k.h,...h;.i Mr M..»,,.«v.,,„,„i.i,n.tnllv„„«„,il,vot ,l,......,„i,!..,„,.,.| Mr KIli> .,„(
I.w ,l..puf.y M,,,. un,i.„.lu,t., an.l a „,,.,. «hu,., „ «. ., .,,., ,., |,.v..„„,ki„« «i,|.
""'"''"'''">■""■ "'«>l..-w.,.,„„i,nuliyl,r I.h« ,l.-..o„l ,.„.„„;. tl... „.,•.. ,,.,.„„
-.llN ny...K I.. .11..,! s„,k..,. i„.|u,i,.u „.,.. r,. L. l-v.^ .l,.-v „•..,•..,.„, M.ili,.,. nth
'•<""""'al..,| I,. ,l„. (;„v.., „„„.,„, „„l, ,|„.,...„n., .:n.sn.ui,.s,.l,o„l.n,.r.,.,..^>.i,.-t
a. .m.n,-,...M, „. «lu,.| v,.„, .,. ,, „,,,.. .■..i|,lo\M.v l.,h„ „ill kMnviHtl.,.,,,..,,
.l...u'w,.u.t|.,„ir,. ispoKMhi. ,„|,,.w.. V.M,.Mu-,ak..,| V.I,...,, or, .1,1 Mr \Iui,
vJ.VM,,!., Mmu. „ .^ruH.-unu w.ll k..<.«,. „. tins ..,„.,ntn,.n, , . livinjj i„ iN.r,
,l)ill...„s„ |.,r .0 ,.r ;.o y,.ar.s.. .... v...,.loy..r .,f l,l,or . 1.^ suvs \u- w',.,,!.! „ot l.av.. ,„.
.U.U ,„.., :u ,P. ri„.., yon ,.,ay fak. Mr II,,rvoy S...'.., , ^,-ut\.mnu .U>
vmi,l„y.n^' l.l.or: iu- >;,y. " I ,|.. not want ,.. ..mi|.Iov s.f,.), ■, „,,,,■ V.„ „,av
follow ,t ou. .in,i t.k. ih,. .liU.r,.,, „...„ wl.o have |...,.„ ,„ll,.|, ,,,„., ^,.,„^ ,,.,,;,.
^m,.lo\,...l Uuu ; ii,(.y all s.y. an,i In-ir t,.stin,ony universallv to the lact, that h. ,.
nut ;. ,.m,.vr limn to he .n.i.h.v,.,! ..1. the .anal. Th.-n we hav- P ...tain I arlin a
jrentleman also w.ll.kn.-wn in this ,.ou..tv : h. snys h.- is n nmn ),. wouM not Imve
Now. th-rc wi.son.Ml,.nf;«-hi.i, «tni-k n^... wh.ch I thought wa, v,rv nrhri
on the part of .Mr. .M. (Mlluni : that wa. an attemr-t upon his part to h.^t;,. upon
-Mr Dema.ethes,„n...tha, h. h.nd h,..„ ,,ui,t, „, ,,i„,, lanff„,«c al.out Sir .J .hn
Macion .1.1. whi, h ,1 h. ,v. r.. «niltv of usin«. .w,a« totally unworthv of hin. But
who.1 we come to ox .inmn vliat are the wor.ls use,i upon that „r.,.asio„ a. allcire.!
to have been u^e,l I,y Mr. Douiaie. nc. oniiiiK to Mr. Mossip". .tory, that he was a
Utrty son ol a hmh : w« have the nniver.sai to.tin.ony of everv witne..s tli..t that is
h„ooai,„onex-p,e..sio„: .vvrytnanthatha.. neen sworn, who h.a.« ,mv.„ to.stin.ony
wu regaul to lu,n, says that is his ,.o,„n.on expression, -.ou aro^. .lirty ..„ o, a
biteh. .N.w. Mr^ 1). ina... has ,n«t it fairly an.l s.p.nrely ; he ,h.ni..s ,t po.<.i,iv..lv
..ys.t ,8 no sueh thin,. He .ays. -I have never taken part in an ele.-tion. ami 1
c..n personally bea. te.tu,e,.,y t„ that nivvell. R., h,a. alwaya trie.! to act impart-
. i'" ;■" ;7'^'-^" "-"'l'l''.V' '- to the hes, of his j,ni«n,ent, an.l I think vo„ .ill
.omo to hat eonclu«iou when v„h m.ke your report. But tint this Molsipv,,
dehhmtely telhng what is nor true m that .statement a.hnits of no -Jonbt. We Jo noi
rely alone u,..o,i T.emare ; wv h.ve . George ^y. Kead, a g.ntlen.at, well-known in the
vomtnnmty, ot f.stabhshml reputation, a man of honestv and integritv H. s.,v
-Mossip |.,hl h.ni .liMinetly h,. never hea.d Den.are make ihat observation, but th;'
lie had hear,l that itemare hail said so.
X,.w, theie ,s a wiines.s, who voluntarily wrote n.e a letter as soon as h.^ heard
Mr. MosMp s testuuony. an^i I aUo que^tioued *r. Mos.sip upon the point. So that
'"■; ■ ' '" "■ "' ''•"• Ho;r, , Mill. ,, „ «..„rl..„.,.n «|,» „.,.-. !,«>,. ..v,,,...! ,. Kn..,
«''!•. M.|...-s,..,, ,.,„.,. v„u, muMi ..M . ,M,tl, t.lli..^. ,.„.,,. .-. „„.,. «h.. Im, ,1m. ..,„.r..
c..,h.|..,„.r,. Mr 1.,.,,.., .,.,1.„1„. |".„.,..«l,.,|„.v,.,,.,r,ol..,,.„l.h. .u,U.- Hk
''"""■""•'V';"^"'" ^'-'i'- t..„..iv „„.„ ,. . .,.,i,.v,.,., ,,,.,, „.u
-.•«to^ .n.ul.n.,I.M,.n.u. n.M.n,. f|... I:.t,.,nn,- ,„, n on ,|... .,.,...1, .,..|, ,1. ..-r.,,,.. •. „, ,„
.h..>,.m.l„.,r „..,„,. „„. ,„,„n,.sta,.o>. ....ive unv (,.v.,. nr ,1k 1„.u.I.s oftl...
n.. r,.,n..„L I took ,.,, la. ,«.• li.s. ^«:^u,. it U ,hc lonu,l,.„ r f\. .-i,.,,
' T' , " ""-'•"•^""""'' «""- -s u, la- ,1, „,,,.., : „„., , ,„, „, ,,^^^ „,., •
o .t .„ ,v,.nf V «■„.,.:.,,., ,.,,llo,l hy M, .\|,.,;.11,.„, b..,o to.ti„„.nv f, th. fr,. t ,l,.r 1... „
a mill iiiiiii ti. In; (•m|i|"-'jc.l up.m th.' i.inil.
Xou- .,k«n ij. ronm.uoi. ui.h ,lu.t ,a>.,.. M,. MrCalluni. ib o..le. to .sl,ou ,l,ar
1.H .liam. ,.s ,„,vl.. out. ,1m. 0,1.,.,. UI.M,, ,M iK. .ays. ,vhilt. 1.,. ,i,...,.v„,. ,l,,„
o.M,.,v..r.ro.v,vl.,.u.,,,,,vn.u,t.v,.n ,|,..y, h. Mngl.s ou, tl„ ,„„u. o, Wiiu,,,,
0.1. , .1. ..miinr |)..ly, ,. , „,,„ ,,,,,i„^, ,;.,.„^,^ ,^.,„, ^,^^^,^j J ^^^ |__ ^^ ^
emp oy«. npon ,h.. , anal o.io ,l.y lon„r Th.- l.onoraM. ..ntkui.-n 1„... spe,'., «
Ml.., .I*al oi Ins t> .u. H>,1 the t.u.c o. the , onn.u=..on in i..ve.t.,,ati,.K th. .umUu.t
'■' th.. ni.u J.ily, .,..1 I ,h.,ik r.n „.us, ,.o,„e ,o tl.,. ,o,K.lus,on i.v .ht .in.. I
. .^>.thorow...,hurg.. whuh b.i ,.i,.d. „ U ti.t a. ..,a.,i; ..s,,.blH,i.,« .l,;
>1 . D. In nt t,,,..;, «. t. .,..ox.. at.:.i . l.u, thne i, o„o thing, l,.,von.l nil ,,uo„tion,
wl. h ,. p.-r.d .n tin. .n-.u.ry. that during tl,o ti,n» h. u at work h., i. not u u., «
hat , har,n.o.-. Mr. Kca.I has sworn that upon „n,. o, ,w„ ..ca.ion^ he n^-
ht lo . nto.xn.ate;J. Uhn, n.k.i by you to giv. un ..plan.fon .hont ,he wo,d
orunk o,. n.to.x.,Mt.d/'hocomd..otdoit; b„thrK.,esonto«,,y. 1 ,1,1 „o,
^ d,Mh,,rg.. h.,n. although I knmv I on«ht t. d.soha.';;'. bin, if 1,„ wnre drunk I did
no lonsuler he wa.s so niu.h into.uatvd :ukI imapabie of ,l„chargin.. hisdytic.
t .|U ongh. to d.s, hn,^p. l,.n,.' I'.ut vhcn «e .on.a to .xn„..n.. ,nto the ,n!t,e
. mt e lurthor wo have tho wv..,.who!n,i„g te.sti.nony oi u lot of gLntl-incn ,,rr,oni
who hn.c worked with him. who all l.ar t.lin.ony to the nui.o .n ,„n , "^ du '
t^.^ ,nan wh.h. upon tn. work, although it n.ay be his niisfortun.^ whil.- oU' ho
wo,k, toiiesonietnnesintoxirand; but, sir. I think von will .dv. ,.,.,d,.,.co to tlL
tostnnony of thcso .Hrte.ont gnutlcnen who h.vo !.«.„ .all.d upon th..s .nnnirv who
tho ,.st o, tl.cncn upon tho wo.k, a n„,n who could Ke-op up his .nd ui.h ,h.
othor ,n..n wo,k„ig on ,h.- .-..nal, .John Mun.d. nn. of ,hc .o.n.n.n. t....i,l, d to I !
good ..huac.o,- and good conduct, and d.si.c to wo.k. ...d willi„g,eHH ,o do mctv-
tungaskedo, hwn; ,.nd also thu .a.t that uh.tev.., h. wa, askod to do l./d d
ethn-MUly: andwasasoho.-, industrious, an 1 h,..,;.work,ng n.an, and that he had
>.ev, r soH. hnn drn^k on duty, Mr. Lci.h spoak.s well of hi.n : and ul.so Mr
D-mar... It ha. be.n att,.nn.ted to Iv ma-lc out, and I ..hall aliuMu to :t sLortlv-
....„k y.., v„! ,:au- no :.«;t,u;on ju coming to ihu ..onciu^ion that, so far as Dalv
IS concrrnc.d, ho wa. a n.an who cllicientiv diuha.-god his dut^. .n.l nood very hil
m comparison with Mr. Mossip. I u.cntioued VVrlliam Daly because hn Mn-di !,£
'u, ,^ ) c nan. alw.. .11 other., who have ),..„ ..,nph,y.,l. H„d ho is ,h. o.,. uho,.,
.. .u.l.ntly .,„^h;.l „„, to ,„„v. .hargc U, ; l.,„ , think v.. will ,.o,u. „.
^ .nh,..l u, .l,..luM.,n., A oss.p, au,l .v.using .okIv.. hi,,, ,.,n,,h,v,..ont an ' 1,„„., •
as..«..,.lsDalv, who .a. si,„l,.., .... .,v M,. M,.,.!...,,,; . tl,i„k vo,.;.i,|
who zealously a.,.i faithtullv disrhaip.,! his ,|,„\ '
Anothor pom to whi.h J uish ,n .ii.v,, unn att,.„.io„ l„i,,l, is ,h,. ta.t th.,
".'•• ''''■'^""""'' ^""■' • '- -'■" -tiH. ,■,,,1 of ,i,„ ,„,,„;, , . 'h
.n.xu,.,.„st,..,,.,io,..ith,v,a„.; .,..1 in th. -a.lv pa.t of H i,; ,. " Z ,
W.1 m.ol]e.t. . ohi„cto,l to that ki,„l of ..vi.len,.. h.J,... I k„..w i, wo M " ^ ^
'» ti"; .;n.l .ha, M,-. Mill., .a. .,.,ga«e,i u,,o„ ....st.u,,,,,,,, ,hat ail th 's .^
'-uplatuts w .„ h. ha,l ,.,a.l.. a.aius, M,. Mill,., ha,l relb,.„.. . ^eU ' ^
>uu tr,uc M,. McCalh,,,,, v,.,-y !„„i,.aly, .v.-.y lat„.,„le, upoM his .nvi„4r vo,; th.
Uuna,. „uh„ „„, |„. „,,.,,| „^ ^,, ,„,.^„j,„„. ,„att«r that vu„ -onhi not dis,i„
;;a. ,..a,.a,in« the .pai. at any tnne ,ave ,ae any .a*:.^: ^ ;:X:E:7
apply i,[,on construction, and allowed it to be paid to,- l,v ,1, . , "^ '>t'""S ^u
;• jh,,. «.,..„,<,. ,..« „..„ » „.,,, „-.,, r t;: ;l;.':;z ;?"''r
1601. , 1 kon furtluT o„, at ,,ag,, 16S2 ■■ tl„ tinR. .a, oareftlUv comi.ire.l ,f ,1„ !
■■!' :;r;; ""rr"" - "'"™ "■'■"" '^^^^.^^^:
maiKeddown. ^M''- t>eniare was .^mtc too particilai-.vith me at timn. ' T^
page 1605 "kept the tun. of the .„.„ sepLate while t'L' o:ie pot o","
I hat ai,pcars t. hav.> b.en oae of the g.eat \nwh,;u: of M,' AT P.n '
the tlungs upon whi., h,- ..H.d ; that^u.d U.^.:Z:l,l, tt ^:;, ^Z:"
hall, and the band wa^on. Those sc-in to hav., h,...„ m i , ^,
was not justilied in making any arcn^^atioi, so t,,. „ fi '"
would attach any blan.e t^M.' ElMrT y U. "''f ^ ^Z;^'^^"-'^- -'-L
had nothing to do with it : that, while th ,• ml"- " '" ^ "''''''
abontthoti.ncof the ,ncn. tha; it l>^.t^.^::J^'Z^^::T::^^^^^^
l.sl.ed that M... l)en.a.e paid fo.. nothing on, of .epai wl i f .1 1 ' T
charged to th« constn.ction ; and that Mr Mille, ,,M V J'av« been
cunstrut.tioii, ' i -m app.joa tu
Tbe next point to which I shall refer b, ierty is that of the band hali It In
Mem to me it is hardly worth while- " ^''"'*
1 lit' is tllli (llio ulllllll
. yni wjll .•oiuc to
• Wlis was |(i'rr'Vily
l<>yiiii,'iit any lnni;i^i ;
II. I think voii will
iiii M(.>,>i|i, (iii,( „„,.
ielh is fill" ta^'l iIi;h
luii'v. lias soiijt;!it to
I iiivi'<ti{^atioii, yoii
>^ it WdllM rollio mil
It all tlics.' (iitl,:rt'i)t
Since oiitirely to his
Jivestij^'atofl Lv you
:i liisyiviiigyou the
i Mr. Ellis and Atr.
oil louM not distill
ni to ask ijutsticri-,,
d ,vmi will sec now,
>':\, tliat .Mr .Mi'-
uiiith liail iKj light
i.s ilear and loticIu-
ikc didiijeiit altera
o control over him.
'c.(\ raising the lock
re in their capacity
inie or anything to
repair department
\-chaiig6(l." rParre
lUipared at the end
working was duly
times. •■. Then at
: on the lioutouii."
alluiii, and one of
tlie gui, the baiid-
ol' the houorablti
, I think, that he
concerned, whicli
ler and construe-
i« and .Mr Detriaie
' iiiisapprelieiision
and cltarly estali-
shonld have been
f liand, Las at no
{lerlv applied to
tl Ijall. It doi^n
THE COMMISSION KR. , .,„.,, , ■;, ,,, ,,,, „,^,^ .,, ,.,,,„,^,^,^^ ^
rLa;i'^U.;iS^t: --'M.U.....ban.,wa,,n.Uo.
M\i. RVKKUT -M, IS^,. h,,,,.,.!! >aid th.t he ,,„.M „„t ,,. ,i,at it wa, rea'lv
a liaiid w,-,Kon. W.ll, th-u, th,. ,1,.^, ..jia M.vn, ,, ^ * '""" *^a., ui.ly
•l.aract,r; M,. I,..,„..„ u ,s , hii^cd «i ' ' '""" '''"'"«
• . , 'iiaigH.l (Mil, li-iving, v,.iv inipioiM-ilv, taken uviv
l.overninent timi.ci, and raited it to Welland I ihink 1 1, „ I l
•xplanied to you by M,. Den.are and h,s ZL " "'" ^""^'^ '-"^
If wa. also attempted to ta,siBn „ Ml. KIlis .son.ethu,^^ .v,o„. ,„ ,„,„,,„, ,
■n;,,,5^.:r::r:;;i;ji;;-,: :t:""^:;; --;;-;:::,
attempt M.ade to ..how ,o y.u, ,.i,, ,,nd u, the department at Ottaw . tiiit ' ,?
was not onlv u.nvorthy o, the .oti.idence o,' his en.pIoveiJt ' ' "T'"
«ett.„g ptcktu^s, and a u.iinbe, .f , hi,„s like that. x!,w: Mr ^^^ . " ^ t"
speech, relets to t,.,, ,.,.,, f ,.,,,„.,, ,,, , ,,„^,„.^^ is among .l«"'o,/"^
im.k.ngs. -It looks as if he was getting a lot ot piekitigs " is o„ , '' /' """"
complaints. Wh..ther that refers to th.. ,nal and l.inZ; , „ , , "'" '""••'"'"•
-t !<' ■ ; but so far as that charge is tnade rh Oe ,■ • '^TT' ' ''"
Uovornment tor his „w,i pcrsor.tl use, a.id .ti/ J " T' "*''?"' ''"
-hat is ampiv and suHicientiy -net by the evide ^e f V t,uTTT ''""'
ilistinctly that Mr. Lntgley told him he did not know whe e I,. : '?r"";'
but. as a matter of fiut. it eomcs out in the evidence suorn to M d1 T"^
self, at j«ge 1778, and by Mr. Hohnes, at page 17,^0, that Mr )e, i, ,""
'" the house in the ..11 of 1^S5. when the id was jmte ;.;;'''" T
tl>e time, lieyond all .juestion, in ISS.".. At that time it w.s H ,, ^'^ '^'
.nd Dcnare occupied the ceti.rc l^-iiaing^ a^t^ I ^ ^'^ ^:i^;,^-^'^''y^■
;-i - '•■■il^'.^nn. was cotnpelled to keep hi. coal in a sh^d " : t t .';; J"^ 'J
tlmik vou wtll come to the conclusion that the,, is nothing in that e ,ar' ^
U e conn; to another .jm^stion, wjiieh I do not monose t., ,„.,!, t
upon...I nioan in reterence to the rubber boot "l^Z I j^ hha t""!;""
i.a)lv ilisposed of , tiiink the evidence of Mr. Page, and .h ' t ^ "h'*^ ''''''
H.nl Mr. Ellis and Mr. Miller, all go to .show that the tubhc. o . , "T'
ubieh should be investigated bv you. it apphes whollv to c^Z^o::,:T'
h.< been a large amount of valuable titne wasted in discussim' tint t l '
."• tl:e rubber boots. Mr. Page gives his reasons tor il :":d i Kc^rTu"""'"
-li-tinetly, at page i,^7ti .nd the following pages, that Mr Flli, 1 „ J ., ''' '*■*'
ever to do with it ; he accepts th. whole'^Ajibi i I L!^]^^ - .".what-
to the eonelusion, as 1 have, that that .nattJr should have be', "dtt f 'T
inveRtimtion. *"' """«o<i from the
igation.
leii ilie iie.xi i|iiestioii is that of the
made in the early part of this
Slew iKiitoon. There
was an a
this charge, alleging that tliey had deliberat
take timber aud to consunje
tigationtodragMr. Demare and Mv. Ell
ttempt
.V and wilfully allowed Mr. MiHe,
labor, which actually belonged to r«pair
18 into
to
'», on conetruc-
In
tliili. tur wliii'li lie lii)iu..lt' I,., I r
torilv. M,.. M,ll..,. l,:,s ,.xH:nn..,l „. « ,oi; ., I TT T' r"''"'-
purpose, in ..,„,.Ho,. .,H, r,,.r n,a,.l,.,...y .n.l k.opi .,.„,.:"%:;;;"'""
will soe that while n.on „„ ,,.,th ..pairs ,,,.1 ..onstrn. i.,;; .1 L it tlm n '""
iher. might hiv- ],...„ som« ,sh.nv of r.,.,,,, for .,,in<^ hi , ""
- .■ons,nK.„on .hen thoy .... a.tnallv wor .' ^f, t;'' "'"' j"' r'"'"'
t^enator should havo invsti^.r-.l that .nartP „ 1 li' ^".^- "-' 1"«""'"
.weartl,oi..ti,„ewa.pai,Un,.a, tl. c^kl L: t I "" '"'" """I "''
imv-c. boon tol.l that the,, wa. oth-r work o, 'm f'"' '•^""■m..„mo,- shoul,l
Mr. Marshall ar,d oth.rs in tl . cmplov, ,T„t o i . i ° ""'^■"'^""'''••' ^^^
I think yon will havo no hos.tat,o,; in Z: ^' t 'I'^.X^ir'S:;'"""' """" t
th^ ponto,., there i. r.n a tittle o, ovidenc. t. show Z'^^" A El" "' U
Den.are has aetod itrpropcrly, or that a„v „.onev wl i^.h , eH ' .^ '"^ "'f'-'-
The next matter is about the new lai.thorns. That i< i nntter wl,; i
not sent here to investigate, n. .eems to ,ne. 1 do not th n th r I ' "" 7""
minimized their work to that extent th-.r til- . Government ha.
..l^dieney or the poliev ot one!^^;;:;,.;';:: i:!! ^^ -;:^;: :;;^;';;;:- tl.
«:n-n.gwhetherala„thornora certa.n kind shall be ^t^V'TV
beneath the di.nitv of a eo„,missiouer to .on-e here and e:tt ^.H eth r I l^ if
exercsed proper judgment in ehoosin. the kind of lamp, to use Vn „ i
you want a eoal oil lamp ; you mioht .av vou want , ll \-\ ""^''" ''■'■
a railway, or you mi.hf pr;.r oneTof Z IZZ^Z'ZZ "v^^f "• T
take that view of the matter. I like the old-fash.oned 2 „ luh? a H "
.ome™L- n:i^;r::^!r;^a:r t?:!:-;^;;:::^^' ^'^;r^'""r ^"^^' '-''-
are very suitable for the work : and tl ^ o . '"''■"'' "'" ''''"'^' ^''^-^
.ot I^-H;^;:^K. upon to dee.de. lLZX^:i:Z "^ ""^ "'" " ' '^'^
. a r^i^r'^'o L'it:::: "''' ^""'^'^'^■'^"' "^""' ^'^" ^-"" '-'■ "-- --.
The next matter is the clover seed on the ,anal w)n,.i, .
to e-KBrcise bift own judirment as to u-hnf „••,. »i i . r.!i:- •.•.!:
ag". Mr;Pai;i!,'xplaiiis,
.' .'ilioiit ii lii.fi.ii till
\<- li.is "vidciMjyil.^.siiv.l
I' Wiinti'd fli.it |Miiit(...,,
ii'iiic. and tli:ir h<; u.i ,
■ I "ill i^\\(: him rli(
'lone a((nidi!)f; to that
it' VDii will n.'olloi't, ■■'
'■Xillaillc illld itr to Sf't;
'I'liiis it i|uite .s,iiisf:ic.
>hr,\yu rljiit tljelc. \v:i-
■Mi'. KIlis lor r.cifaiM
ir tooh, So tli.'it yo»i
il-'ed nil that jioniooi ,
■Iii:'.-f men liiid woilu-n
'"It I say tlic- Icainou
liavc ai^witaini'd tho
II lonifi forwafd and
i.'oniiuissi.inoi- shouli-,
'Mitsido tlio loiiirai't,
"g biiiiriintciidul by
acting undtT iciiairs,
ion tliar, n^ regard's
lur .Ml. Ellis or Mr.
"■operly bolciigcl to
ittnr wliii'li you were
the Government ha,?
to on.fuiro into the
•1 gi'^at puldir; work
' "ot. I think it is
V whether .Mr. KlhV
INI'. You might sav
like a roiuluctor on
Von and I nii_:jl,t
"r "ith a caihllf, to
ntiit on,
vidcnoe that, while
ic'r,« wjio think the}
s one whi. h I eould
iji havf iinvcr ,£;iv
en
!-''.'iiis n Very trivial
o"- Mr. Ellis was
'I to put upon the
)0 Mr. Pa^o says:
I was trying to lind
11
-nut -ho best ,^n. I (o, th.l.niks I, |..M,u.ssarytohavesom.lhiMo„,-,h.. l,i„d
•■ lor the ,vt,nwa>h.->th.. bank, awas,' S,, ,l,at thai .s another nutter d..|„.nd..n,
^ Ml-M Mr Kills „u„ ,j„.!u.,p 111, aii.l It apiH.a,. to l,,,. ,„„ with the apvioea! of Mr
Ii.l;'' at llir 111,,,., but it turn.d ,,:,t iiii.satl-^i'aetoi ,-,
Then, a,-, repaid, ll,.. trees on i|„. .-aiial. on vUii,.|, .,„,.„ ,,,,.>s wa> laid bv» \1,
^'■•'■^'lluui, ,t tu,„> out thai a LiCm- v,a« r.^ived Ironi Mr. Bradiev. of l-bruary
;'■';•,"'''■ ';•'":'■''■'' '' I-''-' '-'^^ "' • 'i''""''-- The letter is put',,,, wh,-,,. M,"
l.i-.,dl.\ authonze.s .Mr. Klli.s to ex,HM,d 81,000 tor thai pi.rpos, \ou \li
M.Callun, made a «reat deal olTiis.s about that, and .iuiiii^^ the eoui,e of the inves'
n-afiou mad- a remark in ivr.ren.e ,o ih. manner in ^^ hhh he had ..,d hold of
that evnene,. : and 1 .as M,-uek with the .,b„ rvati.n made by vonr.ollfwhi.^h ^^a.
''I'l'i";^ '!•-•> 1 "'»,k, to the whole o. this inquiry. The la„..M-v von usid, sir. was
m,t, I th.iik, ,,uif,. .tioi,^^ enoii,i,d, ; it vnight have b«en .st.ll .trons^o,- in view ,dtl,e
<'!"""•", .V""l''v.n|.o;, ,hat ,lass of te.stimony. Now. 1 ju.st t.iok th.- libertv „|
.e.t,.od,ng honi page 137 what yon said in loll.ence to the anony„.„ns letter; uiion
■Ml. MeCalhim eompb.uied that he ivceivcl a good deal ol hi.s inhmnaUon thro„.|.
..ionymous i.tters, you expressed your disapprobation of .uch mean, of altaekit
■•'■■ '■'•'"■"■•">- "\ ;' P^'>'iu^ .-llH.rr, and eonsid.i^d that too mueh credence .should m.t
>.H. giv..n to ,.y,demeoo,aim.d ,n that way ft struek n,e verx foidblv at that
tune, and I take the libe.-ty of quoting your language in rele.emo to thrs enquiry
genera ll}'. ■•
TIJH COMMISSIONER-I trtay say, u, addition to that, that ,he snb.s.qnent
-videiue wh,d, )i.a,s -levcvd itself Jia. eonfirme.l that opinion i„ iny own mind
vvith velerenco to that class of information received in that way
M H. RYKEKT-.Vow, the next matter alluded to was Mr. Ellis anu the boat
h<u,se. It seems to mo that it is a very silly and foolish ehar-'o
THE COMMrsSKXVER-I do not think you need go tnt^o that
mi IlYkEUT-Then the question about loafers and loungers, 1 do not think
you have anything to adjudicate upon in that ^
THE COMMISSIONEK-No.
.MR. EYKEKT-Mr. Page has said that that is a very proper order. You hav«
read the order: tt speaks for it.self. The order was for the purpose of preventing.
Mr. Elh. .a5s, a lot ol peoj.le congregating at the lock-hou^es. and .ontinuallv
bleeding and circulating scaiiilal. ^
Then the matte, about ioei;-ton.lers and using vacant land ; I think sir von
u.e pretty ^vell versod in that, and know all about that yourself. You'know'the
i.a.son why it was d-uie. The lock-tciders were allowe.l the privilege of using the
vacant land n,,on condition that they would keep it free from thi;tles and weeds
and upon tliat condition alone they were allowed ,o use that land ; so tliat a« fa,- a^
that is cone-ined, there is nothing in the charge. An attempt was made tJ make
..ut that lemare and oth-rs had been t.'atlieking in that, but I do not think the
evikuife will warrant that conclusion.
Xow. the mattei about that receipt, which Mr. Huston and Mr, Smilie snoke
ol. 11, reference to the Steamer Haskell, was. I think, satisfaetorih e,pi,.i„, j to
.^..u tnat, while the otlicial documents shuw that the ,ecei,,t was SJ3. the production •
ol the receipt shows It was only $3, The person in making the copy for the printer
was §3 airmiot Slii, as indicated. ^
1" i- al.,.u.lon.,l l.y Mr. M,.,Calluui after a .l.orr ti.n.. ^
T^r T ' "^' r^' -'•'' ^/M;..'il:i.;:;:;^;:;;'z■:;;;;z:'■:;.
o In. nu..st.«at.o„, so ,..• as charges oC that nature an, ,uu,nn.A to .hn,., J, ,
usBii, wufiie, III Ills exaniiiiatiaii t i', si-toiid tin... 1,., ^ („n
.t alf '"'„";,' "'"""■"'«»""' "■! "■■■ 'ii'-l' '..„» t„ 1,. „.„ ,„,,,l,v ,„■„„■„,„„„.,„
at ali. it was a raattor of uecessity. ■ ^ ^t'liniitii'
Then, another rclleetion was sought to he r;^t „>,,, ,i ,■
was e..,loyo,l uhon .here was a gr.at .rcsh.t hor. some v.-ars . t.^i^^^
liight, 111 or.h;r to prevent dan-cr and tioi.Me to U,,. canal ■ ih.t tl„. n,.. ".
.son,eihin« in the .ha,,e ol' refreshment, and they -Tt 't , T
which wa. charged a. uork done U"^ "^ ^ ^^r, '?" ='f "' '^^« ^' '^S^''
return It as It was; but Mr 0'\..ill w,> . n . i , '"'"'•> '"'" '"">. a>""
~t k.".wa„,.,|„„g„,„Ub„„°„ " '"■"•■1-"- 'I""- Al .,,)•,.„„ I,. ,1,J
business man may enable vo.' 'o mak. certain s.^r T^ "VFnonce as a
beneficial to him and also to tne c :^;C ';:'CZ Ur S-^"' "'"'' ''
en>ployee,. sliouM have the stigma atV el ^.i/^ Jet "■"■"•'"'■ ',''
weighed or measured, or that they h.vu tlmLh tl i '^ ''aye improperly
den^uaca the Government, 1 thi k s ; U^ ^^^ the.rcareles.iess or ne,li,enc.,
to be as go.>d a system, as far a« check, i "uc rnec? s .t TI' • T T"'
Mr. Walton. agentle„.„ inspired w.t/a„ un.i: ^ e H ,' ^^^t, ^i^^
Use f,ho evidence entiroly
Ic I'll 'lllt\. 'I'lial yci'iii,-.
'"lit -Mr. Smiflj and Mi
it lines sct'in to lilt! tli;ii
ii|iiin I lie iiijmfatioii <,r
Jim ill i^hnvji<- (if a gioji
I tVoiii l)r^;iiiiiliii/ If. cm!
lllC.'lllO.I, tu .llillnjo Jiiii,
fit vcKetalik's for a m1i.iI,
iifiirlo Siiiitir,,rvi(li'iir,
fully <'oiitr,i.li(;tt'i| hi.-,
'I'belioi; aiiil you, >h.
11 1'tli't/tnally ilis]i(i,se <.i
ii;ti'il hio tnvincr stato
1 "itii tVit/iulb niitsidi'
1 liaiill\ ..■nlii,. l„ till-
ill tfiitlickiiiR wirh the
voithv or-iiiyooiniiieni
Li.iviinni; It i-mployou:.
you that Mr. OXeiH
'•ears ago, wiwn it \va>
miiilmr tun during tli;^
hat tlie 111(11 rtquin:d
iw-galioii ke;,' of higcr,
II? i«tunieti tor that,
thing. It would hav.
arely and fairly, and
Jans of making ihoac
s, H large amount ol
or. At any rate he did
ircf'uliy youivself, and
• ma tier uf till- hooks
■ books— and I wouM
'i; beeau.se, on hehall
the eharacter of the
: uiaking his entries
long e\}icrieneo as a
hinj that would bi
r. Ellis, or any of liis
liey have imiuopcrly
;ssne.ss or negligeiicr,
Hitrary, tliere seein-
be obtained. Now,
; against Ur. Ellis,
l'"Xlu;"ll;u''"'" "\-'-th.^arn,ter to weigh the iron. I sontotimoH
I uugh It «l,en It eon.es in at four oHoik. 1 know the work I have ordned and
•;:;;::: rt7;'k "" ''" ' ' -"""^^ ^^ -ightomot. whe„ , L:
I>n.t.a la, job, I k.Knv .nvrv ,,„und of ,„„. there .. in it and the cost of it I
Hi I i.he k oil th. ,,„.,,,. ,, Hiey , oine uito the yard." Now, there is a ...ntlenian
I ^luu^ o, a e.„.in ,.,,,„., of this woik, Mi. Vanderbu.gh, whose ev^ene "
"t perhai. «.s conelus.ve on that point as .t might have been, from the fact t
he «as not alway.s n. the yard, ..ys ti.at nh Miever anythi.ig ... ne in whil ■ wa
heri. ,.e properly weighed i, and examined it, and eheeked die aeeount ev • luh
hen he was no, th-re he left Mr. Holmes or .Mr. De.naro there. We 1 e , ■
:K>.e w, no>.es. both of wh,„„ testi.y to tl„. laet thar everv dollar's wo -. n
..ken into that yard was either weighed or measured hv whoever handled t A
>1, ,ns M,h.„ee, and the mann. r in -hieh he explained the J^i.smes. about the
"""■■';; ' ^'- •;"■'".-'■ •" -'-••' '.^ -l-olished .h,. .videneeof Cnlp, who!, .her
-^ iully one-hall, a.el then omM-nth, and th.-u two.,im,s of m t rial i , l^"
. «erap iron ^^.nt right ,,..1. as new material. Then e,.. niav take Mr. Dei ^
- -..r and^.n,th.sev.denee: and you mu.st eome to the eoneli.ion that, o fir
.. tha eheek ,« coneenie , there has h..,.,. a .beek upon everything going ut am
•■ - hingeonnng in; whether it ,s in that lensed shape that .^mhl l^ sa s^
.1 to a stranger coming li,.re, ] am no. prepared to say. 1 think, probablv with
.^our giea .pidgment in those matters, as the employer of laboi. ai I eniplo^. o
--'-• oi people 1.1 dillerent eapaeities, that yon niav, peihaps. be a. r nn k
■-^--<— '"'hat point, whieh may be valuable; but, I think von w.I
■mECOMMlSSIOXKIU-Imavsayhere that T think th. „uestio,. of pai,.
> ttl, d Usell. I do not think there is any need of going into an a.gu„.,.nt -n hat
1 o.ay just s.iy It turned first u, the ,nalitv of ,he paint ; the ^..st. , w, t
raised as to the titn,..s of ,i„ p..,>„„ j,, paint, but the ,,ualitv of the' ,1,1 •
■'7-"-7-?!"'V ''-^'■^••-'-'^''-'b..otheniana;m..t. ,; ,^^^^^^^^
not upon the,p,ali,y ofthe paint, but upon the „.. it *■ t" ^^'"ds tu, ncd,
,-.pird'''' "'''''""""■" "'■ '"'" '"■"' ^'^"'""" ^ ' ^'""'^ ''- "- -tistaetonly
TlIK COMM ISSIOXKK - If we believe-as we must believe-the tLstimonv of
Ml' foster, there is no -luestion of doubt, stimonv of
MK. in-KKKT -Mr. Foster is a man of unblemishe.l reputation in th. eitv
.>bu,si. won! will go as far as anybody's. • '
And Mr. Ellis ,u,d holidiu-s : it seems m m. ,t „ hardlv wo,,h while ^avin.
H.yrh.ng alio,,, that. Mr. I'agiMn h.s ,,„aint and ,|ui,.t wav s,.em. „,, " ' ^
^' '■' -.'">■ ^ '-Hday, thongl, ,„. „,,,„' takes a holUv bimsid, " '"'"
• niKrOMMISSlONKi; - I .an se,. nothing wrong in Mr. Ellis' holidav. in
iii'i:;;'^:;:" ^-••- '''''''''■'■■''---''■■'"•'.'■ -o. number ofy,..:
14
MR. RVKERT -Th.n rhut mattor ..f RHis an.l Mio travnllin- oT,,6nsr<, sl-o
I'll ii'iim-.'i
Ml. Mrr„|
ms tr
.'jS^OO. I iv.iiit t.( |wiiiir our t
.'lltllOlli'l! I
It' I IISC"
th^
find tli.il iij Mr. Klli
ilori^ tlic
<> vmi t.
.^' HCC'tinit lie l.w
VnU
'•x:mnu.; .till
11-^
i''aiiiil. itiiili.thcr ixiM'iniif , t,, ul
iiui'sfi.iii ,il„,iit il
i> olli, ill rc|iiiit. you Ul
■d i|u;irtc.i, .tiiil t.ln; lior.^c lni
Tlii'V ill.' III! p.i.s'.s, ,| hy til,' Au'liroi- fn'ii.ial
iii'ii
Ml. M.0,,11
1111 tak
will liii.i,
will
111 (.111- part of it. Kills ;:?i'ftiii;,r his $75 .,
tinl oil tllP SIUIIO |llC4c 111 tll.ll i„
''■Xi'(.|itloh
fl
ic^ SI Tiitiiiv an.
lint, tor livriv, Foster ami otiiurs
lowaiicc, ,iiiil liil.iu that tli
tli<
vi,!,'iiaitio of the Anilitoi-JU-iirral, wh
So that that has st.ooi| ih.' f
est
o say, i'S|.i'(;ially ii|>on oin sid,. of politi.
man to hi' alji>' t
Now, iir.vjt the Vaiiderhur;,' inatfr. Vou 1
not pr..|.aif.(l n. justify Mi. Vaii.lHil.mv' n, rl
iliicth
Mill that
Iv i'.\|i!aiM('ti J
tor ; I think li<' \v;i
oiifTinally hy Mr. Win,'. Tin
s sonunvjiat iri('>;ulav 111 that
larLfiM;,' toi trips th;if hi' .li,i
Hot
laf was allowirii to l;,i
iMIt ll|.
-piainiisitc, likt! in..nih.is of P.irliauu'iit wh.
things '.I fh.it kiihl, uhiih ail' luoktMl
»'is t.'uiploy.
.'IT ; it was hioknl upon as
p.issts iip.iii laiiwavs.
ami oth.
a ri;'hl to In
into
pai.
ami thr i,'o\('riiiiii'iii shouhl pav. Id
iip.-n as ]>. r,|,i,sit,s. II,' .;on.si.h'r(.,| he h,
.iiiy .ithcr pi'ison's ,ir, cunt in that
III'; I do not know, pi'iliap.^ I ndiiht ivf
Wore iniich
in ih
at all about that. 11
rt'sp.'i ^.
.tl
n.)t SI'.' any inv.'st).,'ati
jH'ili.aps that may b,- rlii- on
I'l' to
i.'i persons
ir s.iinc fiositiou, it [
ni„'lit'r 11
IS., to di
I'l'
..■r.' wl
Tlifii about Ilnini' and tiii' \i
c nwcais .iistiii.i,. Mt. Kills ha.
I'Ui Ml. Kills kuL'w iiothiiu
iiothiiiKat all to do with ii.
bv .Mr. EUi
H
af,Mra-st bridge, fliat uas satistl
I'lolllv .lis
,'lir to pay. Mr. Di
mm: say.i JU' was ba.llv tr.'af.jd and uia,,h. t.i pay for 1
iiiaro has sworn thai the a
noi'L' than h
fiiriiishtHl to llunii', and he .li.l n.it t.iki
I'l'ouiit, was niado out in ditail
inv t'X.L'^iiioii to It. At anv
110 (oinjilaiiit to this .lepai'tnu iit. wh.iv hr had hi.-, i.nii d
r.iti.'.
lij iiia'
Thin tlu'ic is the Met
w. a iii'oai'l
inioia .'a.se, whirh is a trilliiiu matt.'r, whh)
d it
uistnuati.iiis Mii-owu out that Mr. Ellis
have hvH dioppo.l bv Mr. McOallmn
logulati.ius, mid it was not hdlowpd bv Mr. MoCall
1 appears t.
mil : uiil>.
lad tri'itod liim nufairly. That
Biid^'c ,it Lo, k 10. Til
that; and, instead of men b.-in/,; employed t
it apj-«ars they were simply, durinj,' . oiistnut
eie ajipears to have liepii soiiii- iiidihiiit...
'I'Videiuo abuii'
lo wiUK one .lay ami undo it tiuMiexi.
ion, -aisi.JKthe bri.l;.;,, t,, ^.t the lev, '
H feet: Hud they had t.. rui.s.' it up a ..rtain h.'ight. so that tl
nii.Ieineath the hiidj,'e .)ii tlm alnitmmi
1.' mi'ii .'ouh
Is.
Then the s.-.ni
that he paid for i'\
Si. till re is
Rii
:,i,''ir.
IJraill
nothing in that.
i«y swears distimilv ami Ir
tor the governiiipiit about that ti
eiythinjj; done upon th.ii. It
nij;ht tl
iil'l'Mi 'ii.'tt 1
le w.i.s worl
thi li
that has b.'.ri referi
Hit. a! any rat.', he swears distiin'tlv that
1 II
wl t.i her,' that he ili.l tl
ink,
IL- UOI
Then th
npoii that poiu'
'ill
liml litth' troiih
d it
wa'-
tl
.'.\t I'ase is that of Willi nn A.--.
■h,,i
lere is ii" i|i
in,:; the servi.
mbt .Mr. Kills has vielde.i i.i tlr
d Ih.
1 1!
le intiu.'llre (il
•'Utsii
a v.ry 'dil man.
Ill
Ihl
'i'
.an I for
■as.'-i wl]. i.
in rewai.i
1.1.
a;iniethin<; like .'ifi m 10
;,'i'ow n iiilmii an.
,1
II' .llS.'ll.llJ
Mum
I fl
'hi- .-itv-
ii'on rnK;ii^'d ill t[i.' .h'jiart
'■ ""-^ ■! 111'-.-' ii'-:"i io tha! .fhir. an.l h.
il his ilntiim At th
'.ho ft'!f that Mr. Wiiham A-
men
soni" ie.,i-m(iuii at tlui h.in.N of th,- i
II li'i|Ui'sf of
'Heij was .h
a ;aii;
-ierviii:.'
the matt.'r, i.iok up.m himself to aliow thi- man half
iivi mill. .lit. Ml. Kllis. alt.r
■iiiisKlerin
IV, ami .li.arn;*. it to repair
iW, til
Si;..' fli.at
hv.'il. ha.i
.1
|ii-t .,r 1,1
ll.l 1
la
partiiiB
|.'\fr.'inpnt
N(
IM.ink
alter
not J
H.' .1
ellK"
Irliink
.silting
Ibri.
yoi
or
at fJie till
I r.i me lliii
.Mr. Smyi
Itaon.' fled
U^uiyvh Wl
I knows til.
ur the \
la.l f.)
time
irh. h
md
lessil
bi'liev.. it.
Then
hi-'<;iriiiintr
ha- i.ome I
• ^.ild thi
7 •JO, -'r,
■ linn I.. I
ill the ri'sl
Then
lliE
MR 1
oiifi.m .
X,.w,
IS .•.line :
'!i i( he wo
ii» w.iiild i;
olliiit; oTiioDscs st'oms t'
till' i|iii'8ri'iii ;ii)oiit il,
^ iillic i il ir|i.iir VDii \\\]
I'tlM, .ilid tin: liiii-sc ]\],,
• lIl'Uli takrs f.xri|Pti(il;
■■■ pau'' III th.-it lioiik y..
■I-, .iimI ImIdu that rill I
i.it hii.s .stood III,. f,..st , .
i-'ll is siiilicllillij; fijl ail',
lillly ('.SlibniiiMi, J ;iii
'■^ tli;if h.. did iM)t p,i'.
Imt li,'
"•■i--> oiiipkivi
«'i^ looked upi)!) as
>"ii railways, and utlu
111' roll.sidcl'cd In: ll;;.
>' '''I' any iuvi'sti;,'atiri
s that may be tin- oi,;.
till hi;,dit:r iiji hun- wlm
II- Ellis know iiotliij.,
ii« at all to do with il.
itislacUiiily di.sjHjscd ■;
' pay f>)r inorc than h,
rnad(! out in diiuil -mi..
Ai any ratu. hj nias-
d.li.'i', nhiili ajipcai's t-
-^li-. -MoCalliiin ; uu\\
faii'ly. Tliat sirins t..
hdiliitr .;'vidi'lli'e aboir
iind undo it (ln> next.
'>ii'l|:« to ^i.'t tho lev,
it rill' ni.'ll rnidd wni k
; ill that.
he oiiirlit to know
that hi.' uav \M-iikio_
I'ai.s distiiii'ily that ,,
iii'l it wa-- j.aid toi 1.-,
P ol thovc pasos w'l' I ■
'i'li' pi-ojd' in It-war.'
I'd in t^ii' lii'partnii'i;'
lit! I'fllcc. and III. ill ;
u it'i|Uc6t ol a !ai:,
AsHidl wa.s di'.serviii;.:
li.s. atti.r 'oiisiderin:,
I'hai'^'f it to icpaii'.s
iiiw, as far as that gofis, T point out f
"iw. that ho iiad iii>vci' lucn paid t'
15
O V
f^it, sir, and produrr the dooutnoiit.'* h
101 |i to
lor as ,1
111? that t>ositi
position, and arfinc in fliat fajiaiitv. Mr, .\,,soll
oiiiuioii nifsisHiitrci ; fliat \\hili
ly month as n i omiiion iahon'i Uy Mr, \v,
'•< luimi' had hoi'u attach
I'll,
had hi'Pii atraihoij. first to tho I)
111 ; not with th« vifw of
ininilli. li^i
L'ov "iiiini;n
t. hut it
It IS till' liioM
i^ri'iniii},' till' piyr.ii.nt oi kr
'"• »VV Ml liiKWir. l.v Mr Rod
and, n.'Xi to th, ,\,,updiKt list.
|!i~t or last list
'■oiiv.Miji.iit \ia\ ti' I haii
pinu it hid iVom tli
I'l 1
Dining into tin. ortii.o. Mr, K
law l)..|.n bi'ttor. ai y.n siijijiasti d.
lis hi
a lalioror upon the tiist
idojM' that, and r think, hIi, it
'.iilini'nt and htati'd how th(> hu't
il' Mr. Kllis had at
h
onni wviiti'ii to th
|.i;ri'inpiit of tbi- canal I Miink is .sa
Now, the noxt niattiir wp 1
Ilk, si
yill^' a j,'ood deal
<iy thai rh.it aHoited V.
fhink, sir, von niii.st havo
liitvc to coiisidci is that of •'.SmiHi .\; ])^^^
'inn; ro il
liur
nian-
.mil I
l.iiid after hcariii.!.; .Sinvtli's tostin
i^oiii liision, alter lio.ning Phel'iKs tost
Iwi- not tcUiii" the tiiitii
louy in oi)|Msiii..n to .Mr. Dj.
inioiiv,
[lie denied ever liavint; .spoken to ,Mi, I'hi.'
caiiiij here and deliheratelv si
•r, that Mr. Disln
that he ha'l pm-chascd
M
slated xrh.if
l.s stitelliini.
till
nil k'i I
Ifhiiik yon eanie to the conclusion that, ev
linisi'lf, turned out to bi
"■.I'l not true.
'■■ n ho was tirsi
luitriin ; and I
Islatiiig what w.as correer ; at anv rate, Snivt
eii u|>ou hi.s own testinioin, ji
brie
or that he sold him the privilege, for all t
1 denies ]iositiv,.|v he i.
11! '.\a.s not
iiin the
lid I
at the time ho s.ays ho invoked the bh
inii- to come, ol riirnishing wat
I til me that he was siraiuiiig his i
'^■<iiiK of the .Mmii'htv
«!■,
iin
urination pnlty far. At ai
Mr. Smyth and by Mr. Phelps, both reliable wit
ipo" liini. It seem
ly rati,' it uas met Ic
I more ciedence to them than Mr. Disher. It
Kiiiyth would a,i;ri'e to luinish him with all tl
kiiow.s rheie are niillioii.s of hor.s<'-power ^
iicsseM,
id 1 think
1 so impiob.ibli.
.vou will "ivf
le Water hi wajiti
ui'l unlikely that Mi
wiiei:
,-ijr rl
lie water
Kll
;oin.!,' to wasti
What
I'Celvboi
IS had the power. Smith had to do as t
Jiowei h.id .Smvth
111 to do was to keep too much from 1,'oiiif,' over.
I rime; and the idea ol saying he was goiiij; t
till iiiessiitif.of the Alinii^'htv,
It
'"■ «''is told, and all h
,^"dii^' to Waste all th
,1,' to y;ive hiin so iimeh wai
a perfect fai(
and I
ei, and iiivoki
believe It.
not think vo
iig
11 will
Then there is aiiothei- ti
n ial cliai'ire : ami tin
.^uiniiii; to fasten soinethiiiL'
iig upon ,1. (i. Itemaiv and .1. |{
re .seems to be an attempt from the
forward and sworn that .Mr. Snivth «ot t
Sin\rl
'Sum
all i-.\|ilodeil by Ml Hastings
lilee stii
I'l M
r Mnv
th.
who swears positivelv th.it thsv
an
^'>,
' recollei
■t 'I'l
lionias
Hasti
Imii fill them.
; p.iid fi
in''.s took sour
lor Ins v|,
were hi
■p:
pel -on
That
So von must ronie to th
|| I hem by him. .Smvi
stmie steps to mv |i|,-i
s own, am
1 s"eais,
.ml I
111 Hie ivst of the ih
l■OI|^'|ll^||,||.
ir^'es to whiei
I h
tli 1 1
ave ri.'feried so f.i
thai (1
pai.
Ill IS 111
Then a trivial ehiircje af;ain about Mi, .■<nivt
I II niiii
lor an afternoon.
■Mr Wilk
in>'iii ai hi.s
rilE COMMISSIOXKK I think that
MR KVKEK. 'V
IS ll.'lldlv
'"'■iitioii III 11
a pailful iif p!a«tei. lb
I'l lulls ch.irp'.
le senator.
iwever it ^eeiiiid to ati
■.i"t the
Vi
■hii 1,
wi I mill, to ini'ilb..'! !n,-i!!ei. th.it i.f
forward here, and delibiiateh ^wm
Ah!
II' ;■ ,1
nd .Ml
"oiild lend hi
II that .Ml .Sill VI
m a certain amount of i
■'Uiuii Ahbey
!• upon condition
noiiev lui
ii» u.'uld increase the pav for his horse.
W
•' specltic tilll.
ell, now. the \>h„U. boi
stilted that
I'lm ib knocked
]lU }
IS
out of that case when we ascertain the fart rhaf !,« «... i
dollar a.ui i, half and flmt n«, fi > ' ''°^'' P'"* f""" t^'* ^>0"«
.n.i that up to rhatr ;;:;:; r"' r' ''' '"" ^"^ >-^*" ^-^-^ ^'>-
least, not L- n.anv ; ar ! / o's Jr 'I'T, ""' ;"''''"-^'' "P"" ''" --'•
-utra.licts Abbev alt^Kh.r h . i J !",""' ^' '^". '' ■'"^' ^"- ^'">-
look. s.r, at the ..it/;;:; i„ : ::;nrnH ':;" ^'"^";.""^ """-^- ^-
Smyth swears thn same thi„<. i, is .,„ , . ' """""^' ''^ ^'H ''^"••>f >'
dollar was ko,:t by Mr, Sn ■ h Vrr..nr J'"' "*"■'■ ''""" '"""^ ^ "'" ^ -'«' '
Smyth. an.l I .„. satisli,:,] ho .'tWi , u. , s n ""': ""'-^ '"'* ^^ *''
against Sn.y.h nh.ch n.u«t ,,. „. , : ^^ „ ")j" , ''^" ^^ -'""- "''-.
Booth, Mr. Bra,lley. and Mr^Kyan uJ t ,,., ^ t''^ ' Tt""' '''
documents show it-was SI. r,0. ' ''""^'^^-and the othei.
X<nr we ..onre to the ,,uesti..M .,| ,],, ro.r of rhe stone u the „»
and ti.jt of on. friend ,le,hu li.atle who sn , ,, ,. T ^^" -"'^'-■'■"'"«'t '("arn
• Wen uttetnpted to ^.e shown U ! ^ o J: '' "'" '" '" ^'''•''^- '' '^ ^
erntnent wa. paying a verv lat^ge p,i.. 2 ' "'"; 'T" T """"' "''^^ "" «"^ " '
-hat it i« worth. If that we,t ,ue . ^ I'r '""• "'"' '""'^'^ '"■^°>"' ^
«tmnce about that; but what ar. t'he ^ i; "u^' f' '" '"''''•"« --"o-
.l«liberatcly swears tha- he .ould ,,„,,rv the s, • \ ' ''""''" ^"'''''''^ «'"'
deliver it at Shriner. bridge J ,^ Z d ' V". '" rT'''''' ''''"^' '^"'
statement that it w-ts not Tone .r i "'"■" '"' ^^'^'^ "'"l^ing th.v
ti.at my predietnm;:;;;^: ';;;::: ::,r^^'?'"^^
Callum, swears that the priee pa.,1 to out " " ""■" "'"' ''' '"• ^'' '
15 years-.,Vo,n 1. to U, yearsithat th i !^ i" ^ Z TT ^ ''''^ ''^ ^'" '«^'
Btone of that .ualtty was ^..00 to ^5.^a if t \ '''V IV'T'"^ ^""" *'''
ollrontery to stand up here and swear he eouhl .1, . ' , ' , , ^ " "^ I"" ^'"'
subscque.tt evidence, is shown to ho a ,,.dess m ^ "..r • ;'''''"'-'' '''^'''^' ''■
ho eould .p,a>,v i, for .*i a eurd. I s v i i ' / ""' ""'•'^.'"' ^''"^
evidence, San,uel Bovd, Hetnv Carter u.d 1 „' 'I '" ""' '''" ^"''■^'■'l"en>
g^tting no nn,re than a f.,r priJe „:' li;; ^ e ". tlt^^V'""' '"" ''"*''' "-■
useless and played out long ago; a„d „,.,, u lllX Z:Z^T' ''^^^^
Uuahty, tit fo. any purpo.se at ..11, under anv eirenm f ee V 1 ,?' ''""'^'
?5 to $r,.,0 a cord. Tl.,.,, ,,,|i,s ,.,, given e'^ "'" """''' ''"^^' ^" !-">
I-*^^ ^-'''> '"■ ^ '^ that u, eonstStatio ^^uTlCXo^ ""V'""'- ''
their mimls the.^ uould close i, „,, |„>,,.„,,, .„ ' \T ' Ottawa they made up
oftheexpen.se. ' " "" ' '""''' '"" "^'"•.^ *' '", on acronn'
Then, with n lerenceto Rohejt Simn-ou • I ,lo „ ,
^efernng ,o that. Sin,,.,,, has eotuphZ: ' ' j„ i ^Z^, '' '^ "-'^ ^''"''^
Mo,.ri,son at the a,u..duet : and we have show,,' I J' I ', '"'"'"'■' "'" ^''
j.ulgmen,. As \1,-. M,.Call,„„ .o„|d say ii- ••|,o t""'« t'M'^»ss a prop,.,
rather hug... ' ' '" '"'" ' ^""" .^•""•■^" pio|,ensities we,,
Then(he,e !,Ms!,^.,.„;,trivi,.l ,i,a,g,. .•,,ja,„s, \i, kik, :„
stone monuments. *" '''.'' '" ^"'""vtion with ,^om„
I I
nly paid for the hors«
eeii for yarn ht-foip tli!)
^•yftii upon fbp csnal,
all a .lay. Mr. Sniyti
3 that SCOW; f|i,,t, ho ha;
I'xMit this niniiP3. . Hi-
n'Xliiii^'at all about it
'11)11 iH.'fwven Mi. Siiiyd'
|||;ti hark; not a slug!-
'!< ii' 188;j I think, .sii.
"''■" liiiriy met by M.
that is auotJitii ehai^i
' In Mr. Wahon, M,
hoiy(s--an(l the oth.'i,<
th('f,'ovuniint'iit, ijuarn
If I'l' tliu tabic. It h;..
Of other, that the Go\
t'liic. a)).l niucli hfvoihi
I ill making a rtnion
•l ionics forward an.l
oveinnjcnr (jiiarry aif
•11 hi' \va^ making' th.v
; and the lesult show-
i('.s.s lalloil by Mr. M(
lii-t! ; that for the Ia>t
I the average price f,.-
^\.iiton has the cooi
'I :' 4'iarry, which, b;
i'lilt to work in, thai
'I'l'l the aubsequeni
«h,.tt- That Battle wa-
•oveinnient quarry i-
stoiie of any averag.-
'11 "on Id liave to pay
ill IT was elosi'd. A'
Otiaw,, th(\ inadenj.
nrv ii oil on aeeoiuT
■*■■ It is Worth whil,'
Hie londuet of M,
'^'^■''ly, that he was :<
iines to ()a,ssa propn
"" propensities weiv
iineetion with .^oniM
an a> alte„d by the .inploy.vs of (be ^ov, ,m ,„. M,, ,, N, n .w, L ,o ,1,..
a.iil Mr. ^n,3, b swears ,o,|H.. an,,, bin,, ,„,d(,bink von will, on,, "
sioii ibeir IS lioibm^ m ih.K , baig,..
Now, astotho wall at llol,l,.r., | ,|,ink iIm^
ihiit
nii:("UMMlS.Slo.VEH -Ol, ve-.
AiK.HVKmn; i ,...,;. ..nVm'tb u -o ,be ,,..,. wbi,,, ... ,b,.. „„.,
:::';r;:t'::;!;:orb; :,;;:;!;::;:;;;;,.';;:;•';■:•'■, •■'--'-'^ •'"'
Tl-n, keeping the ra,. .Lar ot i,, ; M, x,,,,,;, ,.,, ^^^,„.„ ,
I reeled the .statement towards the end • he savs "tl„ <•
11 breaking the „ ,.,...': T' . ^''" •■-■•■•■■'"""' --■-.■ ^P-'nt one
I" the roiiilii
'■ll<e liillM .iti.-ly y,,ii ii, to
"eentin breikiM,r ,l„ i ., •-'•■--J-. ""^ '■o\ernnMnl never ^p..nt one
I '...111/ 111 uieaking tin; h;e on tho.s,' yiici< T L-.,.,t ti, .
"\1IT,.... -1 • . '"o,s, laii,. J Kept them open at niv own exiiciis,,
■M:.::,:i,:r;::,;';'r''i-.xr;:::r:;Tr'"™r "'"■"•"■*
llioint di,l not amount to anvtliin.. Mr Mr « ' ' '" "" ""*
,,,, "vuun^. .HI. .Heiiitt .sweais to the sam., thin,'.
•'-nnnent. uv ';;,:,,:,::. ^^ ^^^^^^
Ml WoodruJi; Mr Ho,lwell ' '''^ '''''' ■^''' '^■■'>-^''l'''ni,t..,,deMt of ,b,, ,,„al,
"-'• '" < - conclusion .1,,; c, ' i""*" ^''''"' ''^' "'• ""''"'• ■V"" •""•^'
'-" that second It n '''""r" "" ' ' """' '"" ^"■''"^' '"">'"' "' '"-'"
".'^ ...ills .n,;tr u :;a :': r^';;::^- ' '"•' •" t'" ^^^*^' '" ^"^ -""^ '"•
Merritts evidet.ce at , J ' ,«2 '^ "' " '^«''•^ ""''ry that should be done. Mr.
i till, ai p.ige .062, I thuik bears t lat out coniidetciv At., v
.iisnex-piaine.l that, and Mr Vecloi, \i, i- "' '''"il'ittM\. .Mi, > orris
eiiiplovinent of Mr Hodwell ' ■ '"f ''''"''"■ "^"^"•■^ ^'"'^ "''"" '-. the
>''<^«'. ^vith reference to .stone masons and Mr llustin.'s- M,. t.-ir .
tliat he made a bargain with Mr H . ,; ' ' ^'^ »%"' • Mi. hllis has shown
n.n.i.h,nasonsatwSr s ,. tnf' ^' if ' "' '""''"'" ^" "''^ '^"^■' *"
H'-ting the repairs c rid..::: .' ) ? '^. T^T ""' "'r'^'"^" "' """■
•^^i.'iO per day for each mason Those w.n ' ""•' "^''"■'' '" l''^>' '""'
i'-s usually paid at that tine, d n ^ I, "'"'V--- '''^o- vveiv the
---^'•^-••-'-.-Motn...rikd^^
n!i)!i
aiii
if^iMiiisiMf ro scr tliiit tl
18
IfV
tl
I'Vidnii 1
tl
M'lilits W.iltcin's I'VJ.
I''IK'<' Clltili'l
"ii- 'liity vr.iiMilv [ tliiiik Mi. Elli
Us nuMllHIlt ,1I1,| iltt.'l|,|,f,j,l to luitcii til
'IV hr
iits ul
an.v I It., «•(■ liiu.' Mr, JIiistiii„''s cvid
son ; mill «<• Iliac tluir sintijiM
Ml. Il;,sti,
tli.'it I, nil. I
111 bill .
>ii Mr. Klli. I
'llM li iv.> r.,iUi- t..|«;iii|
aiiiiiii iiii.|i'i.-.taii.|. .\i
'll.'.- tint ll. ,.||,,,l,,y..,| Wilkiiis,,,, ,„|,| Tl,
iiii.l u.. li.iv,. .Ml. l;i,|,||
•III. I |.. iSllll-i ill . liKlf.,
Ill uhi.li thcv Miv (I
r\ ill, 'II
'I III. II
III 111.
I. ii.il ..r ..lit
i-y uvi.. .'iriploy,.,! I.
•"I.I l!..^',i Ml!!,.,-, ,.vi,|.|„
wh.ii (li..y liiiiiisl, skill,.
I'l'IINOII. ,11,. I ( iliiiik .,,,
Vdli tin.'.' (.1 loiir III, I, t.
;uiilii;j
1"
•iiiiU' ii|"'ii tii.'ii
ll.
It
11. u III yoiil iiwii l.ii iiM,-. t
M.llnl
i;il
\\..|-|
hiiv.
.III. fi)iiiv.ileiit lor it. Tl
vtu ttill
ti(;crilii.' I
li.'il I-i the UMiii
pi.ii.sililc I'nr (
..III..C (I
iar|i.'iiifi>, uijl ||,,t
II' ^aiii.' mill
.III,.- 1,1 ll
liiiij
II' ■■iiinliisiiiii tliri'.' i
;lll>
III.' II. 'XI iii.ittur
rHi':(UM.\ii.>^.>;roNKi.' - I
-< iioiliiiif^ wroii;; ill 1 1
N I 111' iii|ii('.|ii, t ,iiiil til., li-lav.
I lliii
liiok.il
lliiltti I .i! V. 1"
ll I.
at til" iiiueiitii.ii ol tli.
i[i.)it
ll'.l tl. tliut ili;i|>;.. I
ill
tll.lt, Jiiis.sil.ly, th U Ilik'liI 1
ivc iiii[i.)itaii.:(\ It iliil afi|W!iir to in
vult iiic with r,.r,.||.ia,. t,, til..,! (1,
I'l-t ■*■!) tlii-
it it W;is
11' till- rliiiiuos w.'iit
javo liMu (I u.iiil
01
liuaiiii.' the wli
(:Vil<
1 1'Uaoimbl
I'lKl: ill 1. r.,l..||,f! tl. til.lt, I tlllll.k- 1
piopoi ..'ili..i..i|..y thi'i'e ; but aft.
tl
e ilLirt,'!. miiiiitaiiifi
[
U-'li.'
le (iviilfn..^ th.U f c'liulrl ii.,t
ii'inarkeil to rli
I'l' 111) siu
he siiM no, liu \v
iis.suiiiL' lie was aiixii)ii,s to
U'
Xlli'! II
of tllO.sr ill I
IIS not. I c'lii s.'.' Ill) possible I'l'Duml for il
triii.'il St'iiatoi .'It (
I.'OIIVI, t Wlfllnllt |V,|..,0||, ;,1|,
is riiiplov, with nut emk'in oi
.fl
ability, ti) ili.sifli.'ii-^ri; thi'lr iluty.
MR. RVKERT-I tliii;k
ti'stiiriuiiy.
largiiij,' Ml. Elli.s, „i an
iiif,', at li'ast to tliL' vi'iy b.'.'il of t!
:ii'ii
voii iiiii.st havi' Ih'l'Ii ,<j,itislii'il witli M
Ol llSOIj
'Aa.s.
THE COM MISSION ER-VV.,. I
MR. RYKERT- All 1 Captain lUrv>y li
festeil by Morrison, tliat if ho erre.] at all it «
Town, who .swore, as to tlu. zciil
THE ro.MMISSlONEK -V,,: (l,,it if i
as on bfhalf of tlii' (.
iiiaiii
'o^'oniriR-nr.
I" .'ii'r.j at all it
bt'li.ilf of till- liovirriiiHiiil.
MR. RYKERT- Xow
was ov.T.Mutioii
riv
anil
p;ii1 o
thi
Wf L'onif to anotlifi niattii i
invi'sti.i,'atioii Mr. Howm- w
N l.'lati.iii to tcinlci
in Sti'vpiisson's t-viilf
asmlli'il; and in hi.«t
In til
lii'e
favored a I'ert.iiii .stovi
stove.* ; ainl from \'tuir ii
ileal
It pag.! HM, they butli triei! to .show that .Mr. 1
I. Catharines in re.speet to tin- fnrni.sh
I'stinioiiy ill p:igi':i,sl
;ii:-
er HI ,S
wa.s justified in paisuiiij,' that I'uitl
respect. If tin; h'tter were to eonvev tl
it, you iiiu.st conie to th
.s.r\'atioii ill lefi'ienee to a letter of Mr. Mi'Cl
li'arv s, ;
fell
to get this eontraet; but you i
making that ehargi- was tl
saetion. Mr. Hi
Vour icinarks were perl'i'itly loriirt. in th;
le ineaniiirr „i iiiterpiel.Tti.ni llist juit iipo]
1-011,1; was ilnne, in ok!.
le "flitleniai
toneliisioii that sonii'thing w
lid not know, iioi .|id lanti.npate, that, tl
le '.'ery pi'isoii mIi'i wa.s ''iiilty o
rooki'.lncss in the trai
w.se I'OiPe.s forwai'.l and swears ho loiiM not t.-nder for the M-aseott
stove, lieeainje Mr. Lloyd bail the sole privilege of .sidlin-
ties of Lincoln and Wellan.l froin tl
Lloyd's testini
those stoves in the r,
ie inanufaet
the manager, tli.'it Mr. H
urer. It tiiriis out from Arthi
rhe Oovemment ; hut lie went to Lloyd
0>V.S" I
■ouh
not .sell the sti
thrill \on tfind.r, and y.ju will p.,y i,ie tlo- oxtra d
and said, "I will tender a doll
ar liifrht
honest iransaitii
to;
'11, and I think How.se had better not 1
ollar." N
ow, that uas not
itJmojiy. i think there is nothing in thai, so tar as Mr. Ellis i
lave eonie ami given us tha
Colieerned ; le
l.v, r flunk Ml. Elli.
iM h iVi' I'liiuc ruiUiird ,ir
i.ililii"! illii|i'r,-,fui|.|. .\i
I Wilkiiisni, .111(1 '|"|i,iiii|
V tli"y Wvtv ,'it||.Ioyc,| I,
»{■«, I- Mjllri'., ..vi.liliM
tli'\v riiiiiisli skilli.;
Ii''ii n..ilv. If si.iimIs t
I ^ll|lcill«T-, uill II, ,f M II,
<y till' .saiiii iiiiliss III,
l<<if<;\iU!i: ;l||.| I tlij,,;
ll.-ll l>'-;|pr,',
""III. I |l|,t. .i:,y tin, ;
Iff tl. tll.lt, tll.lt. it was ,
• tin- ( liaiijfd.s w,-iit 01
t.i-ii;y there ; liiit alf.
tlit-'iv eai! In; no .suri
st'iiatur at the .lo.^.; „•
'ii f without na.suii. in i
iiKin^' Ml. F.lii.s, m mi'.
the viTv best of thiii
islii'd with Muirisoii'J
re, as to the zoal maiii-
the l-itn-oriiriK-nr.
it was (.iv,'i..autiijii d
tioii to tf'ii'icr.s. Ill tj,
-ti'stinioiiyat |iagM:{><l
' .shou tiiat Ml. Klli
f to till- furnishing ,'
Ii. M.(J|,aiy's. J fell I
iMlri'lly ,-,)iic,t in th;r
'U'lntiiui lirst jmt njioi;!
,1; was lionc, in .pkI, ■ 1
ti', that, tliv g« ntli>niai
*loklMili(.,S.s ill IIk; ti'iii;
i'udci- ioi till. .M.iscoit.
isf stov,'.s ill the i-,im.
urn's out IVoni Aithi:.
I mU soil the stovr-s |.
Miller a dollar liight
Xow, rhat was not, a : j
)niu ami given us tlia
Ellis is CullreilK'd ; 1|.
A tiinit the tenders for nine Mr Hmt... ,. , ,
h. fen.lend for pi,. «, ; „j, ^ ,, , '" ' ; " ''■•^^"" 'I.V a-l ,l,.,ih,,,„.,,, „.at
Hou,..sav.. page 381 ^Wi 1 n 1 '' . ' ^^^ " »" ""'"^^ « <"ot. Mi.
l-re and ..tate.s, and J ni„d , e ,1 . ' l"" '"■'"** *'^''' ^''^=^'""''' ' "'"-
-'- '.is i.u..„ „:',L' r ::::::•" ; ';^; f-' --• --:- ;'.i<i- ^
"as American pipe; Mr. IMuse .,av.s h.^ ask I ,1 , r ""•' '""'\ " "'"^ '"^
-i.l Hiovdid no, ,u fha, tin. main L.^^' ",',:" l^^^'''^: ^"' '''^^'^^'^
lakfn; Imt In- ask-d f„, H„. 4.,,, • . -'*'"»•''*. ttitietor. , Howse was nii.s
*"<'"''»•'* f'f he r,uestion of tinilwr; von aske,l Ml l-'lii .. ,. ,
'Irew out from h.rn what .xan.u,atK.n the e ^ I^ .n . I " '"" "■ "^'
.vourself, from Mr. Ellis' evafnin.tion ,1 f . " •^" "'''" s't'Mie.l
tenders were nronerlv .ot ^^0 e ■ ''"' '"' '" " ''"''"'' "">' '""' ^'-' "•^•
-aore than the one suggested .hould t^ t!:^ tSL !:;:::";;; "::;; 'T''''
no such thing; at page I'l?!) he siv^ ih.f m . ^ , ' ^""t'ai'y that it is
«o .,..« .hiJ „„. 1,.: .: 4 ,:,' V ,,:'",,:,'; .' ';;■"','," "* '■■"'" *"" '••
liim al alii lie >.avs he harm,, ,i„l.', , "•"""■ '"■" ■"'■ "«ll»" "I'VIT .ou.sulu'.l
hiin^ H;„i,,;-::h;.rt, ;;,:;rt ':,;''"' "^^ ..ikii..„8„.o
hiaadvh.,o„ a „»„„,,,,,,,.,„ „, 7 ' ' '."' '"'" '" "i'I"~ «I»n .«r. Elli.
■..,» .n hi. ,a,.. wr:,^r:;t;r.^'r ;;::::«r .!;t -' ■°'^"-
arch over a culvert, he niitrht as w.-ll tilt f throwing an
;:;*•:■ '■'»" - ■ - -" '■■-■• - -■»;i;:' in:rr,,:;'.;:;
Now, then, we come to the very celebrated matter.- -
.....irg'tri!'''""™'-' """ " '•" "■ »™-™shi,> i„v..«„a,.„ ...
MR. SVKKRT.-Tl,ath.h,s.. ,,„„„„„,
i!::;,;":;;' r;,:";:: '';,:r:':f ;:,',"'•■'■ :'""'• " - • '»«- ■■'•■ ■"-«
.-hicl, h. ,il.,,|aj„| ,„v.,.al ,i„„, ,,„,i „„ ,„ , '°".° ' ', '^" «">"8'. t.m|.e,.
I- .a. .,.„„„ ,„i«.t.„ ,vhe,. he ,„.,M , , ; ■ , .,,^:;:;t'r "'°"' '"«
'"'e^- /!'< uganift tlie long enquiry
!(j !ii
I tliiiik
in ili.it , liiif.
2fl
iliM ,\c.iiH_' Ml-. ('liirk.''H iliMth W!i>
*^ill '■' ■ I" the .'iili.'llisinii til, It
< fiiivil \n til.' KiiK hiT.it; ttniK'-l dcwii
il ^^■l^. ridt. .IM>4 lli.U llrt'lc is rintllil'
THKCOMMlssioMll; N,,
Ml{. ItVKKliT ,\l ,.iiv iHlf tl nl.i h, i.|
Ncai- Mtfcr il
'I'l
n -I |(,tllii-* wciv .liourieil.
I IS to w.i.', hot piilili.-ili.'il tiir t\
!i-' iii'xf |M.iiii is til,' .JKiif,'.' iillii.i.<| t.i M. ,,(!, II .111,1 >,, r,,.|iii.'lv l.\ Il
• K'l" I'lllll'"! ill l>i'll|;||(''.s liDiLsc. Tli;ll
Air. r. Iiriiiiiiit, .Ml. C.iin.ll, ,ii„| |),.|iiiin liim.vH
TMK ro.M.MlssiONKH V,..s.
I.S '■.\|plfM|ri|, J llillik. Iiv III.' . vi.|.
I" M'li;il(
nil
Ml(. la KKI.'T I'l
fllU llist illU'sl
i.if is ii>> siirli tiling as >,"'tliii,i,' f\i< -;,.,. and II
PU'SII..,, v„|, ,,ut «,.,s, •• It is sihiply IvrallS,- I ,ii,| „„t ;,|r,.|„l tu II : I,
lor Ills J{,'|.s, u||;|t,.tll il III.IV III'.
iMillii I i|iiislii.ii, aliniii KIlis aiKJ till' gas. In i|
I'l' fliis i'ii.|iiii V it CI
\
iw, wi I on,!' (i
iMt ill .'viij.'iin. that .Mr. Kij
;k ii'i
111' iiiiii|iaii\ ,
II
M' ' .11 IV [111
llCl' ■'.'IS ,1, ,111,1,., I I, ill, In
i^^-Jt, .lllll tJKlt Klli.^ ,li,| |„,t u,.t liis (
'III'' iiin ill < \itK:iiii' that III! I'liiuiai't hd't I
(I't lllcl) .sji'll,.,! II
'iitr.ii'l \\a> .sif;ii"tl witli lli" linv.ri
Civi' «"•■« until l.'iM ; tlial at tl
ni'iiicy I'i'i' aliiiiiiii. vi/,, ?>r>.<Mj() ,.\,.iy li.ili vr.ii'; a
iini'iit tln-y ajjiiT'l to |,iy ,i i I'lf
'It' tiiiic tin
'■ill .'iiiiiiiiiit M
iimI .Mr. I'.llis l.ail iiotliiift,' to .say .ilioui .ilt, lin^ tl
'I'lii' i.liM'i v.iiiiiiis, I think, .iir, uni
.s|iiM ill,, iiiiiiunt was niuiitioiicl.
ir allitililit
iiiirca.siji'' 01 n iliii'iiu
yell at tint time uill apiiiy now, V
sai.l lit p..,-,' ion am! I ,..,.1, t h.li' Inn ,|..,,f,' |,,„„ this, l.,',au,M I 'think
on
to the 1001 of Tlu' whol, matUii ; .iinl 1 ilo not think voii liav
«'
your viiiws now tVom wliat voii Ih
I' iiiiy ii'.i.son to t'haiigi
Ihi' ol'j,''tioji o!' Ml'. Kvk.'il i., .Mini. t,,i' t
im'ssci! • yon suiil, •' 1 think tlial toadi'x
I'd
■ liav,
n<i ri.i;lit tl. Ill i:i,it^f.;,'i| l;,.}',,!,, ijiis Coniinissi
K.Koii; that Ml. Kllis ]iriv.iU' alliiii
tain tliciii, unl
I'.ss it i.s slii>wn that ihcv ai
' ami othrr i-vi.l
to the .stri' t rnii'.s of cvhIi'ih'c a.s hcloi.
oil, Inn liav,' I any ri^ht fouiiii
a roiiid'cting link lictw.'uii .Mr. Elli-^
' fii'il tli.if aii\' [iiiviiic iiiatti
' thing th'ir ,i.tn;,ll\ aH'ii't^ il
'•III'.' ol .-orMiiit [ii.i, tin ,,. 1 ,1,) not pi'ojm.s,.. to hohl Mr. .M.'Calli
a louit; at the same tiim' I inii.',t hf satis
T I 'roll"
ht M|i Im-Idh' inc is a coniiiTtiiis; link with .soi'
ic iiiatii'is iiii'lt'i- ronsidi-rati.
III.
Tl
you sav. •■siijiposiii.t,' the ^a.s w-.ti' tunii'd <in th
ii'iiat page .12i».
it, ami it conM not hi' shown that tin- .sa
anal, ami Mr. Kills had ordt
' H'i'v HI'. I .'aiiimt .sc- aii\ wroiisj in tiiining it il"\ i, •; ,i T
' '•oinj.wiy-slionhl hi lali' I upon to I.uin gas wImi' th.H
' it ,an ))<■ shown that the piihli • intcri'st was ii,;,.
' that Mr. Kllis liaii i.'.'ii',,,! hi,-
vinp of that gas injun.'d tlic publi'
tniiot .si'i' why the gii
* M" noccssity
il
II
ga.s iKv in iiiik't ti
' thru I shoiilil .SI',' till' n li'vani'V ofliis ('\iil
!'• 'Or mg down the gas, au'
in.jiiro ihi' piil'lii' intcifsts
Tliosr oti.si'rvatio
\ iik'in'c
s.-onied to he pi'ttiiuiit at flK'tiiiii', and I think 1
in I'Hlliiig your attt'iition to lluni: tlii- ^i^ing of tree "a.s wa
tlii'i
part, and thi' acoiptatiro ot' th
(.' .sanic a nialtii of iiri
'Ui, t. say th.iri' is any loirupt hargain, I think v
'II jiistitic
.s a in.itlrrof ju.lxMiit'iit o
idcnci' on .Mr. Kllis' pifrt
not . rri'i't.
•Ill will I'OII)'' to till'
roiit'insion 1^^
V"ict we 1
rtli uliili
I -Vi' till' (
luii.stion of stopping v.'s.sds in rlit' ranals. It is lianll
i"r to it, hcausc it is r.splaim'd thoroughly hy Mr. Di'iuan
TH K ( O.M M I.S.SJOXKK— Yes
.MR. UVKi';i;T^-TIierc is the complaint of Mr. Carti-r whii.l
aif- vi's.sels lit'inL' '■to
ppi
loi'k
Il was made aboir
if. ; it was fully invt'stigated ; and I put in tl.f
KU(t W'y.\)i tiiiiM'l iliiwii,
i< lliiii ilri'iv is iiiitliiii;'
i.|M.tr tl.ei..oi, i,.i„|., i.y M, |.,„„„ „^^
111'- ('Kill llJ.ticll f||;,f, „>; f.
II ai -.11
«1
'•t •J,..ilH. So ilmi I tliii.k
MKitfi'i'of .jihi^iii,.),! (Ill Ml. !■;
f'I'lIlK Vl'hM'lM it, tj,.,
ymi Hill niiii. r.
'" |''ti» ; Ih iimk.'M a nilr that
laiml 1^ .,,|,ri llird it, JM Nillt|.|<
■^ lint |.ul.li>l...,l |.,r t^^.. ■ '""""? '•'•'•'■•'111 winds; ,„„| j,' , |„, |„„,^ ,,.,,,,„|^ ^_,^^_^ ^^
VtHM'.S tllll
■'•liii^'lv l.\ III.. M.|,,ii(.
ink, U\ ill,. I \ j.lriirl' ..
[H»; atii) the jinsw.-i t..
it ,'itfciiil tip il : h.. ji.i\v
I'iS. Ill till. Lilly [111
11' {,';is .111 iii.liil liiiii l,v
■ait tiail liii-ii si;r||,.(| j],
tliat al till' liiijf til.
I riitaiii aiiioiiiit i.i
iMiiuiit wa.'^ Miuiitiuia-ii,
iiHTfa.iiiij,' 01 inliiriti;.:
uiil iiiijily how. Villi
lii'caii.si I tliiiilx it ^vv>
!■• any ii'a.-.iiii to cli.iii^'.
tliiiilv tliat to a )lc>;i'(i
V. HI lis ]iiivato iilliiii
^l• I any rislif to ciiiii
ink liMw.'cii .Mr. Elliv
to lioiil Ml. Mi'Culitiii.
i tiiii'' I nni.st lie s.iti^
I'ltiiiK lirilv with .soim'
. ' Then- , It [lagc ]i'ii.
Ml. Klli.s lijiil iiiili'i'cM
as iiijtiM'il tile jmblii •
iiiliot .SCO wliy till' gu-
ll" iii!(.'C8,sity inr if. 1 1
iiig ilowii tlu'ijiis, ami
the imlilir iliti'icsts,
I I tliiiik i am justilii".
Iiatt<'l'll|jll,|.^r|,n.||t 111,
CI! on .Mf. JCIlis' [i:fit .
f to t)ic coiit'liisioii i;-
liinals. It is harin\
y .Mr. Dciiiarc.
hii'h was made ukui-
.1 ; and 1 jjut in t,li>
li •<a(is(ii.ii. if, is ...ftaiiily not Mr. K
lOsc nil.s, 111,1 III,, t
.Ml Dtiiiarc w.
•|iiiii
'""■ ' 'liliil; III! ,A|il.iiiali.
llut (lie inu»tcr nl tlic .Mm , M
ili-r.icloiy „„ ,|,,„ ,,„j,n -,,|,^,j| ,,_,,„.,,,, I
||"||| thai That «a- I
iiii'd .oiniiliiiii,.,! Ill ,li|.i^
.\iiii<ii,.(
I' jiajjc •-',•.'00, si
•Illy ami lliiiioii;f|||y iinctigui, ,| \
III' /llMl -fi, ,.
!>; -a 111
I ,„l
*Ms tdJiiij,' cntiiviv what
■"wiii^f ,l,aii.\, i.rt.M ,1 li,„-,,„^|
l^ll llH.^ll.r. til
tl
!•• ia|itaiii ill i|iaii'i., h
wis niitiiic. ,111.1 tliat tl
"11 >wll III,
n •! Il Mi,
ii|>i)ii .Mr. .\iiiisl
III iiiailc 1
ic OH mi III till .\|
.» i iii-'ii'iii;,
MiM ,
lo Mil h ,111
V|il;iilii'.| liy Ml. 1 1
rone's viviil iiiia;,'iii,itii
nil'lr III
i|il,iiiit,
\' Il iiii|i
Now, tnki tilt; iiiittci- ,,r ,|,
iiiK, I ihiiik
I'liiai'i-
it lia.-. 1 1,
TIJK O^MMI.S.SKJXKK \\
■MH. i;VKKftT-.\
"W, wc comi; to a iiior,
iml that is the trcatiiiciit. oi rln ,.ui|i|
'Molls lii.im I, „( |7,
SI1-, Il
ivitI
lis «cni;iai tmitnmiit towanls iho„ in 1
'C-aiiii<,' ohaiactcr which is allcj-cl, i( th u I
I'loM'cs liy Ml Kills am' tl
II' casi ,
I, .SI' iimi(.|.
limps ;
, ir.
iHili'imtysiii,ciint(imlcfit.s, then I tl,ii,i.
iiH nii|iloMin.|ii Is 1,1 rli.ii
'■(••'Il his haliir, ,im| fill- h,.,i,,. „|
muii III
IJiit when it (oiii.'s to iiivcstigatii,;,rti
w.is iliHiharKcii, F think
yon aril jiistitioii in inv
^'llii;i|iicstioii why J;,nii., I
^iiv'iitiiii' tl
•■ III,.
'"il""l'-'i ly tivatcl. .11 harshlv li,at,,,j
t IsoIlUiil,. nry.illr lildvilic..; I„
•I'a.ii.-y, or.iiiv |„
nil.
Kht
li' lie h.'iil
'■•HiNi'. il .Mr. IJi
aiiicv w
''•• y-i-xm for the (iovirninciit icinstat
ilOt lllslli
'lit it is ciitiii'lv oiitsi Ic tl
111 ii|i|iortiinity of having,' i
Hraiilcv sni.iis', at
111,1,' hiiii.
'Iniic luni, tlnii I
"!■ llivcstif,'atii,^. ,1,
!•• I'lovUK'o ,.rv„n, ,,,„,„„ ^._ i,e^.,j„^,. J,
c iiiatti
licir
•"'il'l.iuits investigate, I, ami tiu-v i
le^e geiitleiiii'ii h.
oiniiuttee.
'1' not. " Saw, I sav il
'^"' -'l;i, 'l ii.ly .lemamle.l
noiv whi'tlicr .Mr. |.;||
lave lii.f
not k
.■ui iiivisii..',iii„„ tIiiom,.|i th
■Mr. KIlis is ar
IX not lair lo
Is Wolll
Xe.U,
•oiiiitalilf. (or having' ilischaim'd
eoine lieiv ..ifti., dij, ].||
iii\est,|.'ate
"'I' '■" to ("liarlcs Cdllici
geii a man who .Ij,!
■-1' ot time a I
lol ii.rl'i.ii
II Ill-
was <!;if>atcr (han the oil
Dem;
xi'ase, anil I {|,i„k i,, |
ciice.
11'- i'.l>e I he iiiii
tics eviil'ii ,.. ami .Mr. Mi||,.,
Al the time I thoii^-ht.si,: hiit, after I
l<iM tli,it insnlioriliiiatioii i.^ tl
I'viileiiie, ami w\
|lll||Js!i.||l;|||
leariic^ Me.
irk.s, I think
le mill of ■! .r|,..,t
I'll uassaiil.aml lookin-'at thi
wlieif I man
if troiililc ami
Niipennr in a n,rc:ir jmhlic u
entirely fion, i|,,.,t |„,,„
A<iiill\ of insiil.iir.liiKit
'■vil in all iml.li,.
ink, that tl
i"ii, •■iml refuses to- ol
leill.stati
ihiiik
l>ut, ,ti anv lit,
ley are jnstil
ie\ Ills
Ml- mii'ht
It has been si
"•'' '" lclie\il|H themsclv.
idllt It.
lav.- kciit
lowii .Mr. (v,||,
er will |„
I'l away, without makiiir- a fuss
T
ili.Sehai'fje
••.\|iiiliti.
:i,.iii w ■ miMc lo ,\li-\:inii,.|- .St(.\\ait'.s
Il llolli I, IS
II. ,11)1
'n.ittei. Mr. ,\1
I"""""'"' ^vork. Mr. Kills thought that 1
e.\aiii|.-i- .Sti.w,u-(
Wa.^ iiof
liil not ol.ev i
lis Onlfl.s s;ltisl'
l'«";l"llmn. But Mr. KHi^ s.ays he .liil not ilisi liarr^- 1
icionlv
lifiiii that kiml ol
M r. Stewart ti;
rk at wlii-h }|
urn aU(i.',,|
e was tlioi
"■ 'I'll not act with
therolbi'. he
"I', I'lll .Mllllll
III'
woulil not .say so. At aii\
■1 ilay or two.
say « h'-ther In- was ilischai-L'eil fr
1 ,-iiy,ii,rcii ; ami uhiii J
rom till
i.ite,.we know this.tliat .Mi. K
'erniam-ni ciniil,,
lis n-iiislaiiil li
I'ly
pressed
yilieilt, he
ill! "itiiiii
T)u.„ tl,..,v ,s ,l„. ,.,,.. ,,! M:uti,. XMur; he ,nak.s :t .■oa.plaint tl,at ,T„l,n M
..■x>M„. ,i .> .M Llhs ,.,■ l,y M,, .s,n„l,. P,.,J,,,,,,, ica Wgorou.s r.,le wo.v n.lo,,t...|
u,n„ ,h,. l„u..l ,lK, NV,.1I„„1 .■.„,.,]. . I,.u,e .n.n,l......,no...k-U.,„lc.r,s, Ini.Igo ton ,.
''';, :■;;■'>;. ;;"■';■'•'«■"• •■""•'--■. -"' ^^^\^<-^- tm,!,....,,. on wi.i.h ...odit i« giv.„. o.,
wl, ,„„ ,.v . ..,.,,,. I ,,:„ i, a , ,.M.,n, uhi.h shouM be pu, a s,..,. ,...' Tben-'i. ..,
a g...... u, h,,,,,l,l ,„..r. , uiunn,. ul,„ i. .upbuuin^ of tl„a. Tl„. Divi^.o,
CouH .sh.lln,,.b:u«,.sn,,.,l..^.i„., ,„., M,,., tb..y will ,„„ ,„„, ,i,..i,- au.on -
iuak,. a ,,no, „„„„b ...bout . lar,v ,,u„ily ,o M.,.l.,„t. .,,-1 all th-,.. ,n„l :,rcalK,il , ,
gu, on i>M,iiiisiii!,' t., |iiiy a ,b,|b,i a niuntli.
.I"ln. I'lark,.'. ,-,,>,. ua^ Inlly nu,.ti.at,.,|, au.l I think Vnu >mus( .■,.,„.- to tb
.e un.ht „. t,. tlH. ,!,..l, . .„„ u,„thy oC en.ploy,,,.,.,. Mv U,Lio ,ce t H
|U|., ...... ..n h.p,,.s t,, .. s.k. h. ^
Then a.s to E,l\v,ii',l Sinilcy's carte. H,. i^ „„,. nf t),B 1„ ct .;, ,
.1,0 »„,, „„. ,,,. „.. ,„„ ,„„„, , „.„,„^. 4,::::;J":;r^; :;:,;:,: "r::;
foi' that roaaoii li,>. was i,i'oi,.»i.ly di.suh.u.gi.l. '
W., ro„u. t„ ,hc. .a... 01 W. L s,.uth. lie, trind to ,nako out a frrh-vanrn .,,,,1
ho e„t.n.ly huk.,1 He .h,l ..ot sat.ly yo,. th^re was auythu.K wtonf ^ l'^:
■ ;IS. """" •■ """' '^ '""'""■^^'•' '"""^'^•- ^'-^ '- -- ^»'^y 01'
Tlu-o w,. bn. Vohu.y.M.n,,, who -uiue. h,..,v ami makes u loug .noutU abou-
...ng d...h u.g,..,,, 1,., had be.,, .epeatodl^ war,..d abo,,t ,hunke.„.esl Su .ti; yo"
do not iii-opose to investigate lliat matte.- I ^^ ''
THJ-: ((AMMISSIOXKR-Xo, Idonot. •
MK. RYKEliT- Rvan wa. ,li.eba.g,ni to, d.unk.mn^.s, and taken on db
|;lK.god .ga.n and taken on: ev,.,.v .■on..e..ion granted to him, fc-r the Lk^n.
t».n,lv, a., yet he be, a.ne so „,to.xieated they -onh, not keo,, lim any >1>
'■-not „nd..-stand ubv M,, MeCallnm .i,ould blow hot and eohi, H ,- Zki.re
ahont ,..o.- e,,,.. l,en,:u,. being dis.-ha.ged, an,l then in the .^^J^^^t
uas nor l,t to be .n the e,n,,|oyn.ent I ,lo not know what he ,nea..> bv fhu
THK COMMISSIOXE.: A, any .ate, it was established he wa.'a good u.an
MJI. UYKKIIT - Thon.a. Ha.tley, anothe,' untb.tnnate vict.n. ot intemperance
a n,an whose e,lnea„on shows he is entitled to a bette, positio.. ; vet a" t^
cazed h„n so that be ,s not able to d.seharge bin duty, and had to be\|is,S
A.,d n„w we ,o,ne to another ela..s of eases, the incivility ofe.nployees ' Mr
Unme has .on,pl,-nn,.d about the nnfortnnate lockdeader. b.in^ asl,..,, ...d .,11 tb",
tcnle.s upon , e very lo,.k he eon.plains o,; ana othe. luck, within a range ft„r
or h^ e lock. 1 hej hav all swo. ,t that Hume state, what 1. positively unlru M •
iilllpl.iilit tli;it .Tiiliii R.
was i,„ ihkIu,. influoiicu
Ji"U.s iiiio woiv adopttMl
''-•iiiler.-i, liii.lgo teiiil.T'i,
■sly imiiiiiig licavy liilU
■ iiirh crodit is given on
lines lui jiaynient, tjn^v
' ^1"!' to. TLfiv is not
of that. Thr Division
III |iiiy tjiiii u((onnt?
'II' llli'.jll.igi-, fjicy will
lilt. Htiil iiiwilliiweil t..
yoii niii.s( .-Lnu! to tin;
itS()|-,jJ,eily,]iij(.|,;„.^y,,.
i'lrker who h.-id )iis leg
'J'i'iity .■jii(K'nntuiidont
V lixjierience is, that
-idv to turn Dut and
diveis wc havo upon
hotoiuus abii^ivo, and
out a griovaiion, and
■ >noiig. Wc did uot
that tlieio was a sub
at he was guilty of
s u long muutli aboui
ikeniiess. Surely you
and taknn on, dis
n, for the .sakeof hi.s
him any longer. I
il He roniplaiired
' inixt lireath said li.:;
Means hy that,
he wa.-5 a good man.
ini of intemjieranoe,
lion ; yet liijuor h.ts
to he tlismissisd.
of employees. AJr
asleep, and all that
videnee of the lock
hin a range of lour
itively ujitnie. Mr.
lit
I!o-).v lias mnlf some .■ouiplaii.t-
'" ''I'll- ^Vhru !,.■ is asked !o
u-r made any . (uuplaint aiiout it, he will
i';<
omjilains aliout the lo-k-t.-nders he
Mienuon who Ihl^v
were, and
iiig umivil
" iii'u he i,s a
nia
Coinini.ssi
iiipliin! : ir th.-refure ,1.
not ^!i\ u)i:it lock I. lid
sKeil I
fh
oil, an
tl say thai six or
' ii'if lie in Jii
'■I'; iiiid a hoils h<
IS nioiitii now |(, ,.,11,1
i-iiiK's. and ni.,kea emnpLuiil ahoin it „.iu
THK CO.MMIS.SIOXHI; . x„
■ipt.iiii .Saiiiiii ii|.|l.;
seven years a;<o some lo.k tend
eri-a
lied
'lefi.re the
liini ahiisive
MR ItVKiORr (
)i
si nee,
! fur.
casing tlial
At any rati ,
Then the casf
I think, Mr. (
after a lapse of live vca
rs, and ><wi.'ars I
siuiilai eoiiiplaiiit ; .ind u |,
e»er sill,
Ik'Ii.
he has li.
it
of S
I'll well treated.
■111 I roiiii!e on,
I
Ji'i) a man
aiei Hon,,
aious that f
Jierrv Caitn - 1
"• maiiatjeiiient of (he eanal lias I
''^ 'io| look 1,0 me to I
le
onimissioiit
'viiifv of ih
ma I
eiii
and ot
ler.s has li
Hii that a in.
live n;|'erre(l to that,
mne to ihe .-oil,. I
oyees is coiieeiiied, the universal test
ifeii safisf.aelorv.
lei. \-f)M milsf
iision that, so I
'ir .i.s til,!
lie civi
iiiiony of fuij.ow
te.il)
Xow, another gnat nime, the
irs here, with all ihe .lignitv and
" ''lid ol.ligiiig lot ol nien do not ivis,
iiidWlily of Mr. Ellis. Mr. \V. X.
ners
"I the Conservative Assoeiatic
ii'sponsihility atta. lied to 1
Currant
[.Skinner's Corncis, an
'II of Ihe 'I
liim, bednc'i;)
;a jio
'dm out of the oil
jnun he wanted to havi
lisi ; and In
ills iriends in. .Mr. K
I, ami insists upon Mr. EUi.s anno
owiiship of (Jrowland,
'sition ; ami he .says Mr Ellis treated liini wit!
ppointing anyliodv
lairman
he.idijuaitris at
and eviTvliodv to
iee, and ,a varii^iv
oi otiu
1 a great want of civilit
i-'rthing.s. He .says Ir
I'U'loyed on the eanal, a list in li
y, ordi'fed
'■<"m- with ,1 li.st of.
•ante.i Mr Ellis to at onee f
here let mu roll
ha sai
d -If
urn out other m
i>* month, lint
len on t
voii eonie
i|i' eaiia
!i written
an
Slide f
lark this is one of the eases in LsM Mi. b
hvw eommissioned by Mi. Jhmt
(1 init
in
or--'It you bring Mr. Bunting's lette
:iiis 1
ig
li.as I.
made, 1 will put. down the n
|l"isitively using the expression C
anie, and attend to it
I', indieating he w
'ants an
nil
"ver saw you befon
ent speaks of H
III proper time
'"' respoii-
appointnienf
liiit
le.nies
man got very wrath v. I
iind u IS no use your eoniim' t
:iy^ipago-JI:jl; '•! .said '1
authority.
would not h
■SS.
o me on that busim
:ive recognized him without Bnntin./s
Tl
lie
No^v
Hl:llit\
WC eoinc to aiiotlii.>r
inl
us own e.stimation— a man
elebraled eharacter, a gentleman of d
iiairinan ol
the O
.Mil),
'High. 1 would like t
Miseivative Assofialion
'ipyiuf^a lugh position in the com
listingnished
itunnity,
"Ut it whieh stumns i( as 1)
pi.iiiit that Mr. Ellis, al
point out his ov
ling untruthful, f
tlie (■ounty of Wellaiid, Jol
idem .
beeau.se tlnn
loiliee
and wanted him to appoin
have already gut .im; of yt
lout the year LSSl, Ind thi.-
t a man name.l Ualb
11 the lirst pjai
is .somethi
'*:■ he make
111!
ng
row
with him Jf
!s a eoni-
i-dati
laith. .Mr. i;i|
"Il
V>lli
ilir
1 i,.:
' ippointi
and now
onie and
Vis .ippoinfed; and
'■ went to his
is .say.s "7011
ogiiize uni; f want .Mr. Biuit
lor a third c
you h.nc il,s
.inoiher
o he ;i
lie he swe
iiig's aiithoritv for that.
lipoiiited. I eannot
His this thing took place 111 ISSI, voti 1,
I Mr. Ibinting was not a uiemb
now.
le th
'erin 1«,S1; 1
>l> \i.ll wil
•iii, as a matter
(hat
iig mixed up from beginning to end
e ceased in ISH'2. \l,
niii..uiite.s the fan, ,ii,d a very inii
bill,
it any i,it.
h^'olL
■ouiitrv should 1
kuo
w. that he is Ch
:iml he demands tint his relati
position on the Welland Canal, and tl
urtanl faet, whieh wc
airman of the (,'01
01 record
has got th
imns il! t!
ought lo ki
ere
now, and
ves, his cousins am! I
iservilivf As.soeiatioi
11 ol
Is I'nils, 'hoidd
ic- liovernment should pay tribute to
his
Tr^
ml
1i!
if I
ii!'
ill
Ml
.lili
!J
liiiiiily irlalK.iis: .iini liucmsc Mi'. KHif, ,.)
Mr M-l),.iiMi;l
ollirc. I tliiiil
I ,UHfS llllll (he li(
\<iii, -.ii', vv,Mi|,! ,1,, il
loii.sc, to t.-ll liiui tlicic are i
ID varaiicic
mil -Mr. Kllis thnafriis tn kick lull, out of th
liati- hcpii iiii|)(irf,iiiicil in tli,. mii
"■ same lliiiiiT r lliiiik V
II- \\av.
' nrivil u liiT,. till II wiMe a Hi
1 tliiiik ill N.ntli llasi
oil, sir, as iimiiil
llihcr
111^':^ vacaiicif's Ii
ave (fxi'iri.scil y,,iii- ,lisi-inlii)ii in iIIIjuk d
icrc was a va.anc\, ami yon t.,i,| him ||
ytisaiiii ami i.i,.' apiilirants lot )]„. ,.,„silin,
I,- ami VI
u' I'lisiiioii ; ami ila man wciv i,, f,.|i
111' \\as Mot.
I'll! Inin i.llf ul ;,„ui iillin. vi'iy i|iiiH<iy. Ami I tl,i„k .)„)
iri'iiuil i:ii|,ii.|,i.|l>. Ninv, Ml, j.;|]i., ,|, .„],,„ ,|„. ,^|„,|
(Mini' Imiv. ami lirlil.i.i iirly s\\,-ai' Ihat ikal
iliil lie ri'iicalcil it, you
II Mrnoiiai'li w:,
WOllI
lifcaiisc 111- 1, lij.^,.,! I,, |.|||j|
'■■"■ •■! "H't. |i,i liiiii in issii f|,.,i;
'■ tliiiii,': ami i\,r that man (,
■iiiinioMlv uas inaintaiiiiiil l.v .Mt. Kjl;
\V liisoun ic.-inmmy, uIumi: In.' says that in l>,sj
■sif, i.s ,1,'ivon flic li,j
;ati'i| a riaii
auaidi'il ihis
tmir til ri.inic al.
M aixain -t fin' (Jov.'i'
iii'l l^s:{ |)|,.,t ,M|, J.;
imii'iii. ami. in
lis UlVijstl
lorimi >ta(i'ni.'iils that Mr. lOHis
'lilM.silion li.tinTi^j.ortoi' Mr. .Miinn.
SI' III 10 niM ai-fcsor(;„vcrinm-nt laml lor a'
•■' "omuial sum. \VI„,i in- Mat.s tjiat, In- giv,-.s tli,. hV .„ ,11 ,,;
man .'jliJtii) .and I he n
111! Iii'.-ilal
IS was in lMisrilir,\- to hiin, it
iim 111 USUI!,' .,ri.iim l.niLriiai'c I
IS not true.
iivaii^c I
I'dinc to a imhlic olli.'fi' ,inil .-,av '•'»'iiii 1
say It i.s not li'rht |
tl
icMois no iva.sun lor it. 1 say th.iv shuuM 1
lavc ^'ot to lio .so ami so," wUvd if
"I' a man
if turns
tilUli
11' soim^ I
.So lar as ti
ii'Sf iwo i^'iitlijiiR'n ai
'•iii'liision that Mr. l']!)
'iiii'ini'il. 1 ti
iiiiliio|iii : whiln .Mi'Doiiai'li, w
is has siiown a \vy\ ,:],.ar sheet:
lici'k |iut to that sort
link you must i-oiir- to tl
conir hi'ir showing' a iooliiii; ami
till- lui'.sL'iit tiiim, amicr tin' cin niiisf
mm the cviiiiaiiai sli
lie liiis done iiotli
nws is- 11 liail-teiii|ii^red i
111;.'
nan, ha
iiiinosity whi.h lie ought not to have .iisi.layed
X
tiw, wr roine to the !e;,'ular ijiai'^'es. 1 think I
i.lenral i li;,iu,.s wlii.h Mr. .MeCallum has ihiown in 1
l-.olst
erinii; i
t iqi. Tl
111, ii\ wav of
liiii>!;,'s made l.v .Mr. SlrC
\-oliimiiious (diararter. In the tirst i.Iaee h<
iiive 1,'one through fho inci
ase an
ijuite
Hssistint; liis
ilium in the .Senate are of
J'or luel was
im iirreii. am
I In
liiugea that a verv la
l-iTu with thosu in I.s7ti
/ 1) and I >S(
tune; and in his ol)..(er\atioiis li.d
mtiasrs th.. anioaiit expended in the years 18
i" ; ami .also with those of 1884 dowii t
an iiirre.ase, uml. r t
ii-e tin- Senate he |iroeeeds a.s I'olh;
me tl
II' iiK'si'iit man iLiviiient of tlr
I'fte e.vpemliti
1)9 a
>' jnesen:
There i
th
loijsam
■lit. Mr. |';ili.s, in 1,
I'll, ill this item of fueJ, ah
iayinj^ the fuel for the Wellaml C
s delenee, trie.s ti
Iboii
tlu' Weh.ind Ciiial .sloh' fill i lor tlu' (
Ilia! was stolen lorinerlv; that tl
exiilaiii tile itierease
■red I til
tl
. emnirnt of the
le employees
nil-- fi
epuiitrv.
■ wliole , la.ss .i| |.,'o]i|( in i]
'einplove.'s of the eaiial, that
•ilislike 111 attark tl
' .soim h'l
"■ ■'" olli.'ci of the (;o\i'rnineiit ol ihi; I),
It
is not a vei
ei! "ay ; for )
million to slaiiiKi
tliev ail
M-iitnre to sav, for tl
^is iiomsi as III,, majority of mankiir
!•■ sii|ieriiii, rnk'nf l.ehiml his hai.k ; lor tl
t.'ls to III,- |li'[iartlm'i,l, .'isking lor e.vpl.
lat reason J
wroi
lai.l III |i,r,' till lloi
iiiHtion. .Mr. El
IS reply wil
.So thai you uill see that tl
he I
is full
le gr.ivaiiien of the ej,
las e.vpejidi d a mneh lariri'r amount in fuel tl
\ iX|iiaiij.'d. Ihal tliel
t.) do without h
e 111", cr \\ IS .'in .illowaii' e In
iari,'e against Air. Kllis is th,
as expemled formerly. Tli
'fore for if. 'md the men ha
VV
e i^i.1 on fuitki'r .iii
,,,,,,. , . "' ^'•'' ""'' ""■ ^'■'"'■'niMif made l,y Mr. KIlis about lock
temlers stealing w I is imply jusiilled l,y the .videme. The evidence is vei >
«tron^ upon that point. Tlieiv is tl,,. evidence of Mr. Smith ; thi'ie is the evideP,
Ill tlicrc iii'c ijc) vinaiicii-..
IIS (n kirk I11II1 out of til'
i>k you, sir, as iiminlic]
I H.'istiii;^:, vaciiiicifis liav
01 llif posilimi,. ami yoi,
ir a iii.'iii wciv to tell \-i> ,
ill' n'pcad'il it, you uoiil.,
ilili .Mcl)oiia.i,'li ua., lint
'^: and loi- that man I,
iiiaiiitaiiKii! liy M,, l]]\,
. sir, is jriveii tj,,. ij,. (..
i lli'-t .Mr. i.:ilis iiiv,;>ti
tlifiuj.ort of .\|r. Muiiic
'Covenniiciit lami Cor ai
ll'' gives ti„- li,. •,,;>!! ill'
If is not true. , liav.
is not i-iglit fur a ,Tmn 1
iii so," w iu'i) it turns ,,
<'i'k jiiit to tliat sort . ;
ll< you ilUlst IIUIIL' to til
; ill' lias (loiK! nothiii;_' I
liail-toniiMiriMl man, ha
nut to liavc (Jisjiiaycil a.
^'oni' tliiougli the inci
ol assisting iiis r.'a.s(; an '
lie Sfnatc aip of i|uiti-
L vi'iy large exiicmlitti!
I ill lliu ywir.- 1809 air:
<84 down to thi> |iies(!ii
as lollow.!: "Then' i-
I this item olluej, aboL
explain the inerease 1.
; that the employees 11
Hitry. [t is not a vei .
Dominion to slandti ,
lie to say, for th.
ajority of mankind. I
'1- tiiat reason 1 wroi
Ir, Kills" reply uill 1,
s'ainst Mr. KIHh is tli.t
liiided formerly. Th.
>i it. and the men ha^
• Air. Elii.s about loek
The evidouee i.s vei >
: there is the oviden.
'I' .laiiies Bradley ; there i.s fl
i5
1111 ri. Hmdl
ey : and there is t
ailed in ivbuttal ; all tl
le evidelK
le evid
■<■' I'f Captain Scott,
''ii'-'' «if other peo])le ; tl
and the eriden, e of Abrt
tilideis U(
ii'se \viliie.s.st
eiu was John Neill.
le III 111,.
'limine' them to ji.iy tribiit,; to t
''■'''il "'■ g'-ning wood from the
■s rome (oiward ami .swe.ar that th
Uiillld lint
lloWed to t.lk.
Iiuni III that ivspeet
seows as they I'anie al
iiid freiiueiitly, when tl
ong.
ilie paities. Captain .S.-olt swrirs f,, tl
""••'I. fli-yuouM take it without the"km.wled
lie same tliiiif
and
■.top[)ed
me. to sWeai thai the lock
[ « llhoiit eoiisi'iit . ,1, il
"iiifliision that .Mr. K
Ml. .MeCalluin referred.
lendii
Ml. as far as fh.at is
'■" l"-'-itiv('ly, and A. H, Br.i.ll
'II'''' a dozen witne.s.ses, i| v
■s "'I'l. in the hibif of taK
ley
g« of
'•y sweats to
"11 hid not
lis was .amply instilled i.
""■•■'""'I- I think you will
I makiiif' rl
mg wood with or
■oniB to the
lit statement, to whieh
!'■ maiji-r ol'
We (.-ome to tl
illioi ity."
liii'^iMutions iip,,n that iioint? When .Mr. 1'
i.'it n.'e,.ssaril
•s|ieiidiiig a large
y in\-ol\-os tl
'"""iini of „„ V witl
<|iiestioii of uh.it
eiUt
iit Mr. Kllis' instruet
aav V.
as a.skei
mlv when tl
lon.s were, he eonld not fell; h
tl
"'"re Mr. Kl
K' 'iiuvtion if he |;n
I" repair.s aii.
la roe.
■ when le- dl>
was ivadv i,
•says, --.Mr. Ell
is 1 onsults
'lo it.
-ningoi (pie.stions that woiil.l till
■ I'lideavored to a
'di'iits consulted nie, and
i.is advi.sfd with me vet
' advise htm on ,inv
y olten. IJ
subject
a she.t of paper when I
L- geiierallv
lailne
ill tl
II' construction ol
•'■^"vrthem, and do th',' best I couhl about it. So
>iiii tunes they did not. I
lad a
wars
im! I al
nie superiiitcn-
'"■« works; and what tlmv .-an k
am very much e
ngaged now
iK-n, page 140si ••Did not e.v
.\ii estimate is in
amine into t
•■''1' away I'toni me t
lev
W
lien th.al is
I'le and submitted to i.h„ .Minister. I
le small accoiiiit.s 1
Ol' itpaii
done It is sent t
mwn to the .same, and I
" !>ai'liatnent. In large it
am consulted about it.
Allowance is made for e.vtraord
the best 1 can. All
•«!■ Items my afttmtion i.s
superintendent
:)Mes tl
K-y exercise tlieii
inary lejiaiis in case of
"wn judgment.
s make estimate
i'nierg,.n.y. f„ sm.alh
e ipiestion arises about tl
:Hlildi
i.-Tc. ill his eviden.'e in ret.
'dM'Ut linllding .lock at, I
'i''nce to the dock.
ig of the (look at I'
Hie. iSonie
'"It Colborue. (fad
''.vs: "Mr. Klli.s ,lid not
'"I't (-'olborm-. Ml
\
say it is good, an. lot
lers
>\y. II turns out in evid
not. 1
an opportunitv of
'■oiisult n
I lied lot of niiui ai.ii
t'M.'e. that the t
'l.uv ,sav it
si!oiiig what
»as
IL'tl
' 'u ; ,in.l th.\ seem to
ii''v u.i not like ih.- .lock 1
airil,
mak
ig owners a
'•an I'll iitiliwii.--
'■'■ 'I'/'arenlly a dissutis
"'"'liave a privilege for ^vhieh thev onl
'11 tl
e more fuss thai
ili'iii, .Mr. I 'art.
ii' east side of th.. ,;inal. I
y I»ay S30 a
' '"'v other persons on the canal.
I' lav. It
'!■ sa_\s Ih.'v do 111,1 Jik,, j,_ .|||j ^[
"-•'•aiise it is not
-t"i III,
Ml, K
mu-r uas laiili t
lis sa\';
tl
" aiisw,.r 111 .ir.i.scofa st.irm 1
'""ig.'i storm it is a bad
ley will iralurillv
III, iieiaii;
lonveniont
jdace
It in ciis
ol a stoiiii
Tl
go oil into th
'I', in .'a;
•'• of a
i.'iltl
ie«s sa\s, wlo'iiev.'i tl
"V ^wll stay in,M.le if t
'V ill ih.'li,' ; thev will not ;.
' k should be longer. H,- i:
I'l my fault with it. It ,ill
le is a storm they g.
;o out where the d
iii'i'l 11" "thiT faiiil. rt it
'' 'anal.
'i.'v ran I
I'l'-y will not
lOSSlll|\ ,i,,
' and lay in th.. |,,.>k il
.Ml
.Ml
•.111-
goe,-. to show it
'llle to tht
'5iit .Mr. Carl
\^tii'' longer he ufiiiiil
i''y go ,ind
C'l says tile
IS a matter of judgment on t!
•'lions purposes, tor the purpo.v.. ,.f unload
||"ii|i.i,ses, which \ou will
[the ,.,ason all through, i.s very'small
I'age liOl.S. H
c'>iicliision it is necessary (o 1
'uig Vessels at the elevat
not
le part
aave it f,
e savs:
I lit' rough weath
■"'. and for otl
t'l, tak
'ler
iug
I I
26
'• iH'Xt ,ii,.stio„ „.. ,o,„o to t.n.lw ,l,u |,.,„| i., th, Imihling „f tl,,- Cust
lli'iisc ulnl f'ost oil
"N
not williin youi' jiruviiKO to riii
•>", sii', ii|,oii that [M-iiit, I v.'iituro t
on,
t)i(i (jovcrmiifiit
i''i/i
\
oil :il
jjletf
wts rijrlit
o siiliiiiit tliut it
'■ not .iillpil upon licic to say wli.,t!:
•il a lo(i;r (iiiH. bi'lorc ilii
'"■ vM'iiig 111 i.aviiig ior;i piiWi.- uoik .vl
ilcli «;!'•
at Foil Co]>ionib was iMoctod I'oi' tl
'■ii'imiy r„mw'ur,:\. M,, Page .s.iv.s thf mst^.m li
]lCM
as lai- liai
ys It was iic.cssaiy to liavf that bnihli
piiiiiosi' olt!ikiiif{ thi- i.iai'fi of one torn dr
as Afuv, 1S,S7.
:)inl «.• liii,! thit tlic riovon
of the colhMtor'.s olli.
utiini of, Mr. MiCalhi
iilvaiirfil ih." sum of 81, 000.
"■iistoiij housk- at Port Coll
lllU'll!
his; thi.>y knew it was, ^
Ills, at paj;.. L'lia ; so that 1 1
111 a.voiiiii of tlie.'odstnirti.
'"11),., \,.n will (hill it ill tl
:«ui^ on. It \v;is takni ovf;r hv
'ill •'■llllih'lit \'iMr .-.ij/i'd iif
liliMrv ilK
h« found at paj^c 2.S1'J. Mr. P
liini that that has hecii taki
thoir coiitr.d ; w that a.s long ago as 1887, hui;/ bol
viT liy tho Pulilj,. W
I'ldi'l- ill roiilK il, uliirh
osc.s oidt-i-in-.-oiiiiril (,, ^\),.. i,;||i,„ ,,,|
111^
orks r»f|iur) lilt lit.
iiiak
iiig tliese chaigus, thu (j'oV(,rniiicrit
>r.; Mr. MiCillinn tlioui.
for, .md ratilii.'d it.
;new tl
aiHl
took it over
hull
had
of the pioviiKT of this ..'nqiiiry t(
uoiiie to that eonnlu.sion oi
long hcfoin this cuiiuiry
as a public woik. .So [
I'H frci.tcd'.Tu
vT," It b
(I investigate that
cjitirely outsii
I loo
ikii
matier, .■ind 1 thi
ig at tin- i.
wa.s iiKstiiiitei
Xow, wf pouiy to a branch ol cases, snch
a variety of oth
that Mr. Ellis ^n'tod
repair.s. In tho lit^it plan-, in ru
or matters, with regard to wh
dlieh ~:h.'.\v that it «
as the l-ejiaii.-. to the
UK you wi'
as paid to
olii
111 the interests of the piiblie .serv
i<-'i< I think y,.
ice in niakiuff
Mr. MeCalhuii has tak.
leivnee In the repair.s in the eaiial of!
ail'
tllo.-
T)
■a exeeptioii, you will tind that Mr. P
lu repairs were necessary. It is desii'al>le for
lice, to wiiic!
;ige say.s, at page Mil
'about that. It
•Th
ill a pretty bad state. It
hifn to consult the Deiiart
le eorner wa.s falling down, and Mr, Ell
«;is iieee.ssary to repair the build
IS made
tl
men;
ling
le repair,-
:!'!'": !,' ^';"".^l\"' '"'"'''*" "J"'"' '■' 1'"^ '"' ^'^' ■■'i'l'H-'<! ro the D
^ •''•'pail', nii'i 'i^ked for authority to eini
Mi. K
ha
ing out the faet of the waiU of
paitiiient, poi
aii'i
make the ireressarv
and got permission for that purj
an architect for that purpose. X
was over six years ag.). The (im
is nece.ssai'y.
THE COMMISSIONER- I
provements tlial he Imd i
III
"Van arehiteii
lade up his laiiid to i
io,se,
ow, I he (
erniueiit
n'U .see the letter sliows 1
'ei'oiiinieiii
le asks to emidi
oveiiiinent knew all about tliat. Th;
las apjiroved of it, and .Mr. p,.,ge savs
mav say
ai'proved of by tlie Department eertainly
re at onee that repairs n
tigation
To ir
tile Government had done t!
vestigate a matter of that kind
lo not eonie within tin
aie
MK. JIVKEKT-W
1
llomselv(!s,
eome to the celebrated watt
Would be taking etcept
seope of my invc:
ptioll to wli;i
that you have le.t hatl the pleasure ol iuspee
■I works at Port Daij
Air. Ellis, say tl
y they Were nei.-e.ssary.
uninsured, ami they are obligetl to have
Works are
A laii
(ing: Mr. JJemare, and Mr. .Mil}
IIUI.'-I
er, aie
amount of valiiabli
a wateh tl
loperty is tliei>
I tlieii,' a!
kept for the q)urpose of proteeting the buih
•e shows, notwithstanding the evMeuee of M
he time ; ami these wat-
lllllgS 111
ease o
r. Wood
Den
who have shown feelings of hostility towards Mr.
s«ear that the water works answer the inirpo.so for wliich tl
you vNill decide that is a wise c.xponditure, M,
them work, ile had an opportunity of seeing them over and
f tir<
Hid .Mr, E.
lare- an ! t!i
Tl
Igraft-
<'■ witue.ssfH
ley aie intendi.'fl, 1. thii
P
age <iid not
over
again.
Iiiiildiijg of llio CuHtoti.
luiv to .siilfinit tlint it ;
iijiiiii litic to say wlifttlii
ilii- work vvliicli was con
gt' s.ivs tlif ciisU'iii Inu!
plfiic ol one fiirii (low
111 til it till' riuvoriiiiicii!
'''luiii of rhi' i-otistnirti,,i
^''■u will (Iml it ill til,
lllll'llt V.'ll' .-^'i/l-ll of ;l'
I'l ill rolllKil, ulliill \vi'
ii'il to Air. Ell!.--, toiliii.
larlimiit, '(ihl ik.i, uikI.
1. M'Cnlluni tlionj,'lit ■■
;i.l Incn frpotfd'niHl paj.
say it is oiitin'ly outsiil
^1', .'iinl 1 tliink you wi'i
■ '"' that it was ['aid {■
Now, tlic liuil.l
rwl
tigs at Port D;
rwlifliiiiiif^. i„ i;n„r ,,rt|,rif |
lllloll.sir ; f i|,i,,k
it'll' roasoii uli\
• $-d,l)(tO o,|,|
'I'lii^' 111.' l„-i
l'<'d tlli'lii lliiji,. .|,
you <vill .,av 1 1, at t\
location
Ah. Ti
:o' I'Viilfii,
" llir'\" I lie ti.1,1,,.1 iVoli, l,„li 1).
fill till
•d 1
>\Ml.sll('lid g:u,
'II tl
IIS 0|,iliio|i Uy jKiyii),
'ic Mi'w .'aiial, to Port
TFIK i;oM.\Ussi()Vi,;i{
liMtatioii ill -^ayiii^r at t|,j.^ ^,
■ivc liirlliri ar^'iii,i,.|jt I'll tl,
IVolM til-
••K'-, tlnl if f
<.'\ I'lciin, addiK cd, I w,
.U'lV I,
'Ifi'ldi' ul|i:ri; |<
.\1H. RVKEP.T Tlo.y iKid to I.,, b
I'M I'iM'taiiily i,|it thoiii at Port 11
iiialtL-r, r havi'
pill tin: I'll
i'^yil'Ka h. ;r,. sluirof
ilii.Ti' is
allioii.Mi'
lli'-:i Ilii'i'i
'!ii,"'.l to repair llo- oatis. Tl,
lllrkl
V It was I',
'II' and i,Llli,liL'ri
W
111
IliMl tl
I'lViiit;- III,, ,ia|['
"as an ai'cnhnt to tlni Haskell'.
" ||iii'stioii ah,, lit III It. j'l
I'Vi-iy iiioiitli, ami tl
no
,f\
'in.' pontoon, ,ii,d tin-
'•.\ an- Miiar the fsial.'lisl
guti's arc I'ari'ii;
ailrl sri! I
y an- tak
lini'llt ; til
■I i'l'op.'r pusiiioi, lor till- ,„.^;i,
I'oinc to tiic- Inidgij at tli
"ii to tlu! Work
lOW
! away, the ^'alf.s are .ill
I gati-saif taken down
W
1 1 real'
and .so 1,11.
s and Impaired iuiiniiiUatel
|iii'l!isioii that the (
<• Woolen liii'ti
• "iiginal map will show
■overnuient had iki otl
"■y ; ami I tl
ii'i •ilieriiat
'ink \oii \\i)i
IVl
I'h; t'
"^•'^ It "-as; fory.'ai
hut iC) I
illd pill
'>iti>- to the
i" tii„v did.
> go through hi.s private prop.iity, and
■s and years .Mr. Dishr-r allow.id il
'toiy. the wat
trouble a
■ I'ower of will,.], is le.-isrd
go across the biidge int
' iij,'ht to shut
iVii'cc the (iovi'ii.
To.-ehctueenyou.i-Mr. Dishei
'V the C
o the woolen
overniiient to certain gentleini
lUIn o
"11, and, through mv inter
an 4 Air. Ell
ii-Samlheatoiireclainiei
idl,'e,
lli'ioi
\
iiii'iiL oir thai
ow, th
" evidynce is oveiwliellii
yioUMil, ,unl thev w
•volition, did cause that to bi
IS c.xpeiidituie. In th,. (],..st ,,j
iliig in lav'.ror that b
■ 113 compelled to biiiM
o be (lone,
a new
<v » no way to read, that exce,,t by this brid
place, thf! Govoriiinent l.id to
leing a proper and
ivach that iiow
ih
dory ha.
waste weir oji (iov
ig'.'; ami you will see the b
.'lu.nent pioperty. The proi'rieto, of
power
ifidg.' i.-
li Pheljis say ' H,
hears he worked witlrtl,
tight to go then. ; the Government
the woolt
«ays tho Govp
■ up the bridge and hui]
le Oovernmniit f
■ument did work fher
had coutrol of it. What d
a new o
"!■ years ami years; he worked
■e; and Roger .Mill..
.ne.-:
bvi'inmeiit w.,rkin
Itistiod himself that tl
ig over and over
!iat was on
I"-'- Jolin b. Smyth says h
again upun that bridge
ujioii that
livatc property, an.l that he had to t
private property; that th
e recollerts w-ll tl
■^'"1 Mr. Ellis w.
rh'en
lomo to th
■"• 111 order to fully nn.lei stand
mild
'rati'd Riord
wa- 11
't, as .Mr. .Mct.'alj
I tl
'I'll -Mggesled, t(
oronio Jf.r,-/, [f,, showed \
a jiroper bridge.
Ion's i'OM.I. AVel), ii,at r
'link \ou will coine to tl
I'lease Riiii.loii that
^ original road
"as
on
!«(.■
aquires an insj
I' coneliisi.'ii tliat
llli'd this a tl.'
.iliiiit
"iii'v had been ex];
'■iii|Uiry.
IS animus bcaus,- the Mail ]
Was i.lone. or t
liad
leli.
ve.'ir;
and y
you sent to invest igate that' It
Hf thought he wouhl hit them back
o I'leasK
very [iroperlv
«ar,sago, a,{;ay back in ]*?;], (or tl
and show that
■i.le years ago Ijetw,
lor life: I say tl
'11 .lohn Riordon
''('I'lns to nil.
not. I ,lor
ol care if I
I'lik the testi
y that vou an
and Air. Ellis, by whiih h
i''ir beiielii.
laigain wai>
:nioii
t called ujion t
e would -et hi
llll/.ed
iiy tl
for the
lie iicoi'l
.\ of all would be to th
investigate that
It- 1)1
.\r,
I'lir
li'i for 1 lai'fj,' a
■pose of iiuloadiii
rritton, .ui,I there
e cllbet that that sli(
liou ; i,ut I
wa.s no otin
' ^^■as ,-i Useful on
ig vessel.s. Surely tl
rf. Mr. R
ge anioiint of rent, have a ricrht tc
y the (,
^ayofgoingtoRio
rdon's
overnmeiit, when thcv t
loidon did not touch those bank,
give him facililics t
ilX
o go into his
at aJl; they belonged to th
m
n!i
! I
I ! !•
S8
<l:iiii
>v,>i'nniotii. Why .a1„.ii1i1 Iw ni.'dillc with
MiMitiii
S,).
I tliiiik.
thtMii
It svcMilil caii.'ic
vim wil
OHIO 1. 1 til
ii great (It
I'liiirlusioii thill it w
•IS il I 01'
M>\V Wii
Hill' III till- woik
TIII;C()M,M|SSK)NKK |
it Mr. I)t'iii,ii«'.s il
tliat vi'i'
link that ha.s I
"•••II txj.LiiiKMJ; ( tliiiik t Hwh
:r.sl,
MK ItVKKHT Th.. nrxt
aiHJ All
iiihiirj,' Kia
.1. 1
i|ii«'stioii is that lit Si
iiiiiur ,s
l)ii(lgi
ipon OovormiHiit |,r..|,.Tt> ; i|,at thr ma
wish to |.(.iiil <iiit to yoi! tliat that road.
;«, oil ii„. 1 1,
as it now I'xis
ihnrg, for Ihi- groad-r |Miition of tlic uav, i
Alia
tliat was imrcly upon (;ov
|io.s.si'ii.sion of thai n
IS it originally ran hct
u-.'iMi Thorohl
iriiiiR'iit jiropcrty; anil when tl
ui upon tho spoil hank of tl
IIJ l.'UI,
purely a privati' ruail. 'I')
iind l.rii|-v thrv hail
II' roail
niissionii,
veiiieiii
Thisi
If oiij-inal voa.l iinis to ih
I'oinjiariy
noie right to it than I had, Ft
west. (Plan shown to C
It
sa road whi.h th. ,anal people had made along their hank t
MS been shown .Shrii
heeii for the water raised in th
•r s Civi'k was a very narii
or
iwereek; and if it had
would ha\
eost very miirh. fhi' evideme si
wh.
'• r..,|iiiivd there would lunv h.vu a small enlvert, whi
1 a bai;k-watcr there, that all iT
deviated
ri
There
entirel
!'• lOiid fornierlv ran to tl
• eoiicliisivrly thai the i(]ad has 1
would not
was a
le east ; the (io\ei
leen altered
eoniieetl'iM
het
ween the old an
ninent changed the
that
y upon ihueriinieiit
e.xpeiiditure. Mr. Hills lias-
I'l'op-rly; and I sav Mr. Ef
d the new eanal ; and th
here and stated that reiiionst
Jieople ill the Town and Townshii. of Tl
explained how it was dor
laiii'e was n
is wasjiislilied in mak
Dr. h
ergUtiOIl llH
fovernnieiit teaui
llOI'll
ini
tl
le rana
a I
id, I
the hridge had been destroved hv (
le to him over and over again li
is an iinjiortant work, ii.sed \<
It
leiiig ii|inii (.'oviiniiient
Govern nieiit teams in h
npon the ilovernineiit to niakr the ivpaiis I,
and 1 think his testiniouv wil
pii'inrty. t
hai hridsre.
Iiev f,
. 'It,!
Ml. 1'
lie lereni'i
- thai, in < lujsullation wit!
thing to ^ay, "Let .Mr. Hll
11
jtistilied
VrgiLson
in ra!!i"
swi>;i] •
-ly you as h,.i„g u„i likely to be impearl.
'n Ileiiiy I'op,., .Mr. l'op,> s,,id, wh.a't was tl
i>Miied that, and 1 I
is build th.' briiltje out of h
l-estei
ia\ e no obiei'tioi
upon inn, his attention I
Ah. !•:
(leing called to the dan
'propria tio
le uatn
K
n, as long
person.- pa.s.sing o\er it aloncr the eanal. kiiowin..
using ihe canal, felt that
Fergu.soii and .Mr. Hllis. and you will
money expended has not been wa>
mat til
I' was liei'essarv.
lis, fi'iding the responsib
iridg.
y p,.i.
ig^rous state of rhe I
uiilge was iis.'d 1
-HI hav.' till
■OltlH
to II
e.\planatioii.s of ^i
ited.
coiiclnsion. I rhink, thai
As regains the weigh sralc
till y wi'i'c usi lul : In
do not .--ec 1 1
.said h,. tlci'dit till
■■'t St. Catharines, I think Mr. i'.i.n' has st
ati
\ Were ii'
.\f
lis was ail obiectionable cvih iid
112, he H
li V-
Itllle
conelu.-ion it wis a w i
N
se eX|ienditnii
think vnii will
oliie lul
ow, wr coiiii' to another hr
Work tor oiitsid.' paiiir
stigma upon .Mr. KJlj
;iicli of li
II
While there h
laf 1-
allowiiu
Ml
Deiiiari
I'lliplo'.ei"
'"•'•I' 'lu ai tempt made to fasten
Jiersons ill the 111
nniciil of il
•Mr. Smith and .Mr. 1),
exploded. Let
days tiiat they
filial. 1 thinl
iiiil
ine Jiist say here that
k yon wil
e\i'li sujiposinjr (],
aced t!
lis you wil
and allowing the full -pay that tl
1 lot of,,
iceli enl ■
men have woiki.-d
^.i\ that ha.s I
li'V
lid
lli.it in I
jet
I I
allowing them the full t
in >.'ars, (he tul.il aimu
ia\'e eiiuii;
nie, altliongh they ai.' paid by tl
.lilt o| these I
men s w.ij-
year, arnount.s ti
29
w.mM niuse a great dm: ■"'■"■>iis Mim of ,«ns • That i. thecxtpnt of fh.
sioii tli;il 'it u.ns
iiicil; I think I uinl.
Ml, I'llis, ;ir,
illli
iiiig t.. Mr. MrCillii,
'X|iiiiiiiriir( whi
li iviii h.' I li.ii'i'fMl
SilVS
If I
allies for 11. vsoir. I
h;i(| lint
11 s (,U!| v.Lsi.Mi ol th.' stoiy. Just hx.k at it.
I't-i! Udikiii;,', I w(,ul(l h.ivu h,
or.s Iui(Il;v,
nil Iht'
T
iHf ,
Kills' hiiihliin,', and was (•iiira<'-(;(l
w.is ..'iiiployed hy tli.; u-,,,, ,;».! 1 ,■!
'II niiikin^r ipjftiin
I
iiKa<{(;(l two or Hum. wtok.>
111'', aii.i ii c, lines to .$40. Th-' luwt i.s H
l">i' 10 ,i;'n IImI sU|M.rilll('M.l
I h
iivi' taken ti
liii.*m..V). William Hllint
I, oil.. |,,:|,| of
lit 10.1(1, as it now exis,
ly ran het\v...eii 'rhoiohl
tlio spoil bank of tht> ua
Ml tilt' road eoiii|iaii\ '
it to it than I had. It
" hia.l.s of^^Tavel. |i) renf.s. .r.,|ill I
i'l-, H) eelil.^-. . I. ,1,11 ,S
ik, I
.hd
eiltins; worke.l n w,.rk : f 1
i'elei I'avl
;iav(.|. ■_'(! , ,.ntx
'■ihv,
l.'vv I. ..a. I
.11 ."^I'Xli'll. two d.i
10 .S.I hi. if \,
vs, .?2
11 "ill roeollnet, ahoMi t
I I
th
le out
ia\ e ^'iveii
"II, h..i(luif,'
Live taken that lo he |\
a ihiy; although 1
le w.l.s ih>in.' oth
lip 111 lour or live ininiit,
iv" iiiiiiulis h.fon
••ix. Wnw
Mr. II.
"-'""I- •^- !■"■ Iii.^ rim... .M;„ti,i .\i,.(
•mil Ih.le w.'le lwelv(. loads, I
or li\(. III.. II
have .-iveii I
<t. iPk
ill shown to (
'r,<;ia\..l ill I.S.K], ;i,„| to.,k
orniiek ,s\\e.i
mil
r.s le
It t.i Klli.s
le along their hank for .
now creek; and if it had
^k-water there, that all i'
Ml will .see I
hut K
si'\-en
low mar he
■tUe.l I;.- uorked ■■i7k diiy.-.. If,. ^.|j,|
house ; hi; would not k.
il
cam., to t
Mr. \|,
I- llev.l .lUii,.,! th" h.
'"' "I'llis- Then l'li,,i|,.,s liii].
II
•p lia.-k uli..thi.r I
■rev would he loM 1,,-
e n..|il tlii.|i
;\\as .'Oilier fl
It, whi.di wouhl not uM"' '""' '"""'■■' f'"- "''"•>'• ''""■ I"' "oike.l h,r Mr. Kljis v,,,s ,il
I' road has hccn alten
eriiinont cluiiiged tlic r.
'1 lie sav.s li.
I (I .'.I I
iiii ijuile as niii.-h lui ,.iil prev
'I lii'I : hill hi. eolll,.,
il'oiil tluv.. w led. ..lavs:
iiiirei
soil.liiix. .'-;s. Ilaiiiiltoii I'ag,.. t
lolls Sllp.rilitelldelils. 1
allow him
•iiiial; and thai ■""''■"■"■ ' ''^'ve taken the whole of h
w.. ii.ir.
;vs. (It. a win;,' iion : ]'
li.sw;isJiistilie(liniiiak!B "" '''''H'llor, cleuniiiL;' i he j,l,„.o ajt,.,. Si. (
i.-s pay, .say .>!.!0. .lohii .Se.vt
loiiias
"II. at 8'.'.
H. Dr. F:
•r^'U'ion lm,s
■w and Walton, workiii'' haif
[>vor and ovnr ajjain hy
portant work, ii.se.l hy
oveiiiuient teams in Ini
•l(ii,'i
iiity, !i<.i..-)0. Makiii.' !:^r
•I .lav d
'our^'es festival, s;i; an.l Will
""II 111 the hospit.il, ,1
Now, I
want to point out this to v
111 ten ye.irs, the otl'eliee ehai'ired a;;;
lain
"111,^' an aei of
|\e ma.
IV Upon the side of this list th.'it tl
iiid yon will .se
liiist Air, H
U.S.
It j'lisritiei
Il in fn]\\
"rii th.it they w,.re pahl hy .Mr. hlllis. The I
e li hy tl
le ,1,'ieat m.ijoiity of fj
II' ""iiinients I
ivse men lia\..
Ml. I't'igiison sweai
Mot likidy to heinipea. Il
■aid, what was th.. ijatn
ppiopriati.iii, as lung ,.
feeling the respoii.sihir
lis stat(. of the lipid", ■
-tniete-l p.,i.sitiv..ly not to a!
Ill reie (. t
"W a man's time h
" I"' di.'iwn is rh.it all tie
oiviiieii all .say that tl
or aiiv work for Mr. Kll
H'V Welu
ihar Klli, left
money for them in th,. .,ii
■■se men were pai,| l.v .\1,.. KIlj,, ,s
is: so th
them, we .aiiiiot (h.eide which
Us say:
i.^.e m.aii a siiii,'h>
s: '1 paid for all this : I told the f
he: Si) that if K
i;e it w.is, ami when it
ollle ol tl
ll.s left th
Hut,
was.
i>.m
e nioil.'V
at anv
lioiirol wag.storaiiv tim
oreillen Ull.li.l I
lie Uol t.) all
dg,
>riilce was IIS
,y p,
uk yoi! will ...me to tl
•■ I'll work outside of 1 1„;(
o\\ a
the e.\planation.s of v|
lii-^ioii. I rhink, thai
"'•'1. Now, tak(. all t
le i()li.:Jnsi,ui lle.fi
lias 'heeii no ;||,
•overnimiit.
iL'se men that liav.. worked
Ir. I'age has stated
I "It sod, you iiiiist say that the time of tl
Ml. Kllis.
Now, as to this malte ■ of fioiidwells. It
lesi. mei,
there, w
h.is not
I""' of I hat kin. I |
ler
1" ll.lVe |,,.|,|..,|
,'ra\'»
■" iiii|irop..rlv U.S..,
112, he .sa
'weil that man to.,i;o otf f
'■i|'l"':ii> th.it .Ml Kll
link you will I'ome tn i
I'll w.is rifjht ..i wroiif,' is n.,) f,
|i' doinir very little wnil.
"!■ im ' (en days uh.ii I
II' w.is ..lit il
I me (,
-.i\
'11' Mr. Kllis 1 1
loi tw.i \i,.ars,
' '■■""I' : "hetluT
!<, he wasjiislili..,|.
lOlli'llt.
allow ine- i.mphr,
fust
liii .iloii^' with him hir a short t
line.
I d.
ii''-mpeiint..|id,.ni ,,f (j,,
as (hat
Mian
up! liiaile
Cli
.s(. . asi.s wi'ii
hi
not think thai
m.ih ill taking
Dell
and a lot of o:
Willi men in the
i>" a ground tor cen.sming Mr. Kllis fori
wen an a. eumnlntion of
iploynient of the (
laviiig iinne,.(.,s,„,,i)v i,it
■ l\ thai has heen (.|ili|.
'-' iiK'ii have woikcd ^
lid get I
lilt of these men
tl
Hiineee.s,sary manner. It h,is heer .stated hy .Mr. J,,
• overuiiient. ,111. i iiti
i/e.l th,.!:' lal
■i oth
r.s, that Mr. E
li.ive eiiuii
■'^o, I think yon will coin.« ti
lis p:ii,l for ..vervth
iiigsent to 1
w
I thi. conclusion. 1
Hill. .\|r. Salvin, .Mr. c
lis jilaro.
S W.i..
ill. from a fair standpoint, that Mr. E\
H> year, amounts ti
Il Ills owxi piir
purposes.
ion. Jooking at everyth
i.s has nor iis,..| that 1;,1„
er-
mr in
lesliey
now
iig, as I k
>r on the <.anjil
I
! I
I
8 nil ^ i-
i
irir:
TV, '''°
.1... ™:::r^::',°:;::,:i::" ""«"« - >- --- ^. - -« - ■
THK CO.MMISSIOXKR Ves.
THK co',';l',!;.,„«;';r ";:" '"•'" "■ ■"■• ■ - "■"" »"■ >■■"•■.•.
::.:w,r,:r;;,x,:;r '■""'■' "■'''• •'■' '-■--■'■
I ii... ,,. „.g,„.h ,|,„ ,„M„,, ,„„,„,j.^ i, ^,, 1^ _^
■1;.).. I.... ,. .„„„, ,„„ ,„ „vM,,„, .i,..ti„„,.„.,„,,,,.,;i„ , ;,*','■;. :
I :. ■■... . ' ■■'imi.d, .»ii, .\|, („i|||ini strove ( ,tv in nn,) .l..,- .iii<
'^:^ ; t^': :^:,^r ■ "' ^" ^'^"' '^'" ^^^"'^ "•' --- i-'^'-'^^t ^ ^
THE COM MISSION ER-V,.. '
a l.,s ot the cases, a,.,l I have put th. number of hour. u}k>u ,ay li.t and th. v. ■
n", r;ssr;^8r"^'"'^'"v ^"' ''"' ^'" «'"'^>'-''-orti,i;;;;;'tr
m 18»2 1S8.5, lo84, y.ar,s a>wl years a^'o ; that in a nu.nh,.., of th.se .uses tlu ,„•
pa.l to, th,. ... of th.. annor ; la.t wh.r. th., ,|i,l ,.,„ pav fV„ , u e " I t
J^ was h..aus. th,. vessols ... i,j,„., .,. n,e .anal. L .Un.k u .^ he i
Dehan.., .Invou upon ,t by th. ..,.,1. yu. Ellis Ion, ,h. .Uvn., appar ^' i,
'nak.„« a ..ha,p^ Mr. N.elo,. «ot the ,livi,„ apparatus ,or th. H ^ ', „:
-Jonr ays, and Mr Ellis^thou.ht it not nccssary to .har,e ,;. ,,ha "r ' 1
^ illp, no , har^T ; she struck the pier au,l was loakiu" ['1,,^ U,.!-.]! l-,, L ' I
shoe on the toe I „o not know the t.hn.oa, .xpre^Iiou":,,,!" .^^^ ^^ J I
^.ort tune. A eharge is n.,le that the Silcox «o, the use of the divn ^ t, l- ij
e«; Uwas shown that the nn.ney was paid direct to the L>epartn,e T
Man.towoe Mruck the w,n^onlo,k nun,!., 1.; only en.a^e^ . L' 1 o ^ • ' .
Elhs d,d no. eha,ge lor tha,. Th. ... P. Heal st.n.ka loifand a Lr " H
.or t^ree and a half hou.s. Then the Mo.ewood knoel.., .„' he. ■ i 'J
n U can I, away baek ,n 1884 ; M. ,1. r,un,.,ings, in 1887, th. .an,, wav ;
^^ K.ng, also the s.n,. way ; and the Hentl.y :- .. .....not find auv t,a..' o
M--. De,na.-e ,sea,.hed and eould not find it. You will .s.. tha ,1 iv '
appautus was „.., perhaps altogether a week or ten days in the'ias, To. ^^..
M .E!hss.ys: -I ,n,i .„, ,, ,,,„,,,,, ,,,., ^^^„,^, J ^,,^ .^ ^ 3-
o see hes. n.en who were navigating the eanal, who .e.eived an injnrv Xtl,
through the.r own ca.elessuess, or so.nething wrong in the .ani ^ ,
31
fiiiaif, it liasbfien slio . ■■"Raiiist. u win;:,' \vh1I--I thoiiglit it was not .-id
hoiifriit If was not ^iilvisal.lc,
thf r
lit with .Ml. .Mi||,>,-.
"I .Ml-. Miller; .some
loliii.>,oii ami .loliii D(.
Kicliuc a liitliir I'loiii i
!• work Wlli(!ll W:ts ),;,
il liHVc |.Hic| 1(11 hiiii,-.
lat IJir only tiiargn th,
lencu .siy.^ Uvo (Iiiv>. .
ny lato, we will say tu
y ill tin; inteii St <it' >
ill thi' il.'im, till' i.x!
lly answered,
six, "allowing part;
'lay in and day out
■riornicd, but he faili
ivitlidutauthoiitv : ,i
I liavti enuiniTat' .
my liat, ami the yeai
of thi.- work was doi,
)!' tlit'.^e cuse.s tlii; uf .
I lie iisrt lit' the ariii'-
ick ii|Mjn the |iier, tl-
ing dinuratu.s witlioii|
the Benson, for thiir
foi tliat. The Lea
[Ia.<kell knocked t'i.|
that oeoupiod a vrrv
tlie (living apjiaratr.J
e Depaitniont. T!'
nd a few hours ; y,
and a diver was thi:-|
ler luddt'i ; oecupl- I
nc hour, some inji;
le .same \\:iy ■ .nul jl
d any traec of at li.f
Ml', that the divi. :
the last 7 or >^ ve;!' .
it Was .HI inju.'st:
1 an injury, wliefl
L' lanal, or runtii!;!
think
lilway ; thoiij,'l]f it was li..t.|.M i
you will I nine to fl
vi,sahle to make a eharpe for that."
•oii-i.lerint; th.' ..onpetition with th'j Kii^ Canal
II'' .'[iparatiis and not*eliar-" f
(J [I'll. I I
liaiK"' iiiadi' liv Mr. .Mef
I" fjiH lii>i in that th
or
!■'■ wa ■ not ivallv-iiiv f
oundation for
IlllUIII.
Till II "Tiuilii
'■"'" f'"' l"""')oM ■• W. h;iv.. h.id thai -vplallio,!. A I
tin ponto.iii" has ,ilso l.ciui explallK'd
Thill wi' Imvm the awful eriun' ot taki
'Spiki
Itiin .riiuii'nl. Hut paid |i
r. Mr I)
n;,' -.'irt pick'ts, valii.M
It 81 r.O, from th.
ml to MrCliviiv ,<: ('
''■iiiaic uaiiti'i
iiid hmiid rlnv hud
soliir llllllhi'i 10 |V,.t Ion
H'
ot taki tl
tioiii' linl I'j ,in.l I I |,
"11' iiiil'.-<- they (hai-id for only Klf.',.t, whirh il
I. Hid Di'iiian
III' riit "Il two fri't, and till. I
iiniyiuf,' thriii liuun- undi'r tl
Hc'Ts wn-i. pil,.,| II,, in ()„. yard: and
u:v ajjii-fil (i
men wen
.1 .1 few hoards theie t
ii'ir anus; an.i om. dav .Mr. K
th
o inaki' a side\\alk to his li
lis aske.l if there
iKc tnosi
l"h'le to foiiu'l
piekets, worth .«il.;',0; .md 1
irn: ,ind fhoiicjht it was no I
a eharge uiion that.
'lo not think you will ruusidr
Mere
larni
nli-r 1. worth
hen the scow used hv FFiitclii
iison.
il- 'li'i not; think it worth whil,, diargin^' for the .^a
If vdraulic jacks were paid for by Mr. .Muir.
lor two d.iys u.sed by Hutton. Mr. Deniarc h,
hat «a- ii.^ci |',„ a >Iiort tin;
and .Ml
ly; th.at thatHcow was lavi
ni^ up in Tl
cxplaine.l that s.ttisfa.'
Ibiiii;; II down f(
loronl 11. ar the ijuari'v; thcv
k'liii intcc no loss he nii'dit bi
)r repairs; and he tidd .Mr. Mutton if 1
in-' di
V I ajMiot say there w.as aiivthi
le would biin.L,' it dow;
wn .1 tiw stone in it, and he brou'dii it d
llh.'it.
i'emenl lor tin; rubber factory; n
Iij; wron,!.,' in that re.siieel.
wcri! ''oiiii' to
1 ami
own.
cement was uaed; that i,s tlic best
Then the only thing which
I'l iii.'^artion is the la. I that h<- did .ill
|li"iii the yard and put tle^ni in his \'
seems to have sturk to Dell
'^w the melt to take tour or (i
lest answer o
throughout the whole
tlici'i who has bi-eii a faithful
in. Now that is th'
ve oi' six plank
U
;'rvant hii many \i a
■nnie to be attached ti
'■ "'inc to another important matter, uhi, 1
Is on the canal,
uid n.ii letiirncl jn jnoper tine Tl
I IS in relerellee ti
'W, .Mr, Diuiii, in the hist placi , has [
lit 1.- one of the charges Mr. .Met:
'Honeys reieived
Ilium iii.ik
l\..'lll., hi
tore Ml. Klli.>' time, of
lointed out that ihi
Iki.ep the inoiiiv in tl
the superintendents, when the I,
piyticn had
lieeii, for
1 no record kept id' then
[111' lias invaiialily put in
M'lr own poeket, ami tiia!;e the ret
iii'.s were paid in, ti
Sincr .Ml. Kills I
tini at the curl of the
veai,
orf (■
hvl
?y in his pocket ; the iilol
':'■- li"'n in the rontinl nt ti
le canal
line, liy till' collector; tie
"■V uas collected at lock 7.
liui to Mr La
nioii.v was sent to Mr. KIlis
lit w
wreiice, ami entered in tie' book, tl
IS paid for, and tlim hamlcl to Mr. l)i
le lea.son for it,
and handed
what
th
'■ m< Ill the money ton. hed Mr. Dii
liiiclei .in\- ciieunistances; h.-
^^ the payniastei ol the laiial. fi
not, the money ueiit in, and Dunn .savs it
i"";"i'l l"it into I he .site. I contend
le- ame lesponsible for it
lit siij.po.s,. he did, or
nn s hands I,,. (
[iii^'.mce, if men wei.
as useful to h.ive that
iiisfad of making the poor feUow.s
|tliciii to .sell tledr time to shark
'• the envelope out ,uid hand the
in})loyed upon the canal five or six i lavs h
moiiev I-
or
«aif for their i
r special work,
"'■ocy. and instead ot
s aioumt to\M
in tl
I. as has hei.ii often
"Olii'l lis
IS nioiiev. If .Ml. Dm
com iiel ling
)ne, he would
Mune (,| this iiimseli; or .Mr. Klii.-.
Ill was short of mom
u anyone else. It was al
Ways
In.. - ,
I!
i I
n
ii
Mill I
iiii
go
•Kl . -<> .l.> tha.. I M,y rha, Mr. Ellis has .lo,„. , .ow than his ,.n.,l, .,...,.• 1,„
">^.s i- , an.l I „.v,t,. you u, look af then,, H„ .ays th. a,.,-,..,. tt,„ t,k ■ .
'•n;.s n,„l , wa. .,ntnv,i in th,. l„„.k what ti.y we.. n....iv.l lo,-, an^l tluV.
l::;^.:^■'■'''''•■'';.^'^'r''-■ «'■:-"■ "„.tn,ayh. a, „op,...M,in;o::
. n, an.... ha,, a..nnu.at...,, a.^
Canal lu.^ulattons. A, th- .....1, i, says: -Su.h .lau.a.,. „. he ..sti,„a.,.,ri,v ,|,
.su,„.nn.,.n,l..nt ,>( th... .anal, an,l at on.,, pahl ov... to th,. ,..-..,.,„■ ,.Lnu., .
^ 1 .^ «1. to m.„..n yo,. „,., M... Whit,.... has si L l,.,«..,nh.. .„ , :
an. . >m;: th.s ha. .o,,,.. .s,.,.,.iall.v u„,|..,. th.- Kail.avs a,.l Cu.als l),.,„u..n..„
niStr.lt!t.O.,S hav.. h..,.|| ,riv,.|| Ihit .l„.v vl,..ll I II . '■ ■ "''"" "'l''""ii"|
^^^ THKCOMMlSSIOXfc:,;^., think tha, i. an a,...., .. „, .hat onght ,
ko.„f '; ^^^^'-'^"^r ^'"^";^'"^ l"-^ ""f l'^^^<' that looseness ahour itru,..! Ellis ha-
t:^l:wt. """""' ^"""' """'■ "^'^ n.. not.. o;a...Uv.yUolla,. hash. .
THE C0M.M1,«^SI0XER-I .1.. ..ot thi,.k y.,,, n..a .o ...to that
ThatT'" Z'^'^^^^f r'^;'"'" r^>^'' ""^ «-- ^ -'-.t ,.c.,ly to o..der ol' tho Hon.s,..
I hat has hee.i expla.ii,.,! satistai>torily, I thi.ik. *
THE COM MISSIONEi;-Y..s.
■ MR. HYKEHT -X..w. w,- .o,,,,. to anoth... h.an.'h of th,. .-as,: .'That M.
MI.s ,s a..l„t,a..y i,. his „..a,...e,.t of .........s of v.ss.ls, .idaini...^ wi,ho,.t
....son . finnl t„g „«..,.,. ^00. h.-canso h. ,,,„.stion.,i hi> n,a«aK,.,.,o;;t." \ow" |, •
« th-, U1..SO, ,„.,.a„:,, uh,.th,., prop....iyo,.in,p,..,,„|y, hav.. ,1.. no „,,,„.,,,
tho tnh„nal wi.e.o ,h..y ha,| a n.^ht to app,.al. V„„ know, si., if „ nru, i L
u.U.rop..,.,y Ellis has ,ot to a,...„n.,t h,. tha, ..,-. „., „^kos . ,.rt 1,.
Government an,l tl... ,„ .„ 1,,. .nak,.s ,h.. rcpor, to th. .i„vo..,.n,...t i,'is onts 1
of 1..S ,,ur.s,h.t.on, a..,l, i,' a.,yho,iy has „, ,.fn.„l it„ i, i. „,„ ,;„v......n,..,t ,ts,.,
K..^ ';;■"- '';■•-. -"> -^^^l ■!-- l.,. say ' ■' I-hat / was i,. h.k .. a..,l was ins,.l„ :
J.y th. loc-k.t.,, ,.,.s, ah„..,l l,y ,!,. i.,.K.,..n.l....s, an,| I was l,n..l,,..,.„s. I ,|, -
.mth.ng. A,„| h. ..v,.lo..,.osh.,ws..o.,.h,siv,.lv. h..yn,„| alU,„.stion^ thr.vi.i.,.
of N.. .olas Hay ..„ an,i WilHan. H..i,! ,ha, ,his ...an a.,,',, „k.. a hla,.k; . u
•"""f"" "f "'"• i ^ '- ''^f >" ""-■ '-"- an,l ,h.... is th,. i..po,., s.„t in ' ! ,:
ago. wh..h .s th. host .vi,i.n.. of th.. fa,, that Ellis ,i.„.,| hi.,, U. that: an.l "n.iv
altor a lapse ol hn.r o.Jiv. y.a.s. I.. ..on„.,s a,.,l .nak..s th. .on.plai.,,. J,. ,,i,, „„,
nrake a ...nphunt at the t.....^ h.. .lid not ,o to th. o,ti... an.i ,l..na...i:,. invosfi,.,:
tion. AMi.n h. .am.! to the .anal ..ili... M,. pn;. ,„,,. ,,:,,, ,.,,,, ^, . "
■"7,t' "^ ' '■;■ " "...."■. ... o„;,„ ;,.:„„:, ';;::; : : ::;;,,"*;,:::■■
•nJ I think yo,, „,11 com, ,„ ,l„. ™,„.|„„„„ „M >,,.s |,,„|,,,.|y a„,.„,l,.J il
•- t(i v\liyf oiK'lit I
brouglit to buar iiiKii
W
Thc« there is Captain Jamas Saurin ; m kuow what he was fined for fo.
ur.g,.anryarth.a,,n«clnct^ Ho ,ay, h. came to Mr. EUi., an.l that M. klH
..a(«,nu.n r,u.tc cool.v. a„,i ,orne an^.y wonls „..„od . and Mr. Rlli, told him to
lcive the o»uc. or soo.cthing like that ; h„t.l,o a,!,nus Id.ns.ll that, at the u- f
, 'i-c .^."Pln.n, ,na,le, a,a..t hi.n. 1,. lo.,t h. tunpcr -.vith Mr. Morri on at u V It"
U was hnea, and only deta.ne.l a .short tin. i„ th. aq„oduc. at ti,., .in K;-
Mcd., and mad., no ..nplaint ,o Or.awa Ros. .-ay.s h. u.ado a .orni-la n. .o D
Ferguson, and l.at Dr F.rgn.on .sold hin. ; did not act .trai«ht with him Whe„
, .nan su.ura that l.tor. .you, ..poci.lly with your knowlod^e of .-hnt .mmb r „f
,.rh,unent have to .. .so„u.r.n,c. I th>nk yon w,ll con. u, the conclu^o,: " , J
.Ma.ght ; I do not th.nk ha .. .apabl. of acting otherwi.. Mr Saurin's J w
'■■^wfiKHfed in the .same way. *
Caj,tain McCoppen comes hon- w.th a icng n.outl,. Savs h. was fined ai Of,
«.. when I said .0 hin. -Pid you ,.v tha, monev- l.said "No. I cSno mv •"■
.nd he un out lauglan, Capta.n Lark.n pa.d ,. Wh v did h ,ay it ^ B II
(jt violated the rules of the -timl Wh^' r^^< t 1 • (.>"■' necausn
.. Off With 3500 fine, for the iage^lone. ' '"^''" """' ''"' "''^" «'''' '^
Then Captain IIutiie'.s case— '
S^ <;?'™'3SI0XER-Y» need not .pe.l, of ,h.,.
Then number thirteon, I think vou will bowl out
THE COMMIS.SION'ER-Yes.
. wit'outf jltn '"^ '""■' "'"^^"' '''■' '-^ "^■^'*"^ "• -'^ ^''^y — ^ not par
THE COMMISSIONER-And it thr ev.d.nc. produr.d h... a. to ST, D.m«r •
.ffKionrv is to b.> r.li,,d on, h. d.-.^crvc. th. money.
MR. RVIvRRT Wr com., now to M... mo.^t .soriou.. . ha.g.-. of all ■ "Allowed
■v.,„. ,. now into th. , .nal f.om Uke Ene. in .fanua.y las,, though ho ha ' l" v
o. ,n.„ ,0 piovnu .,, causing an r.timat.d dam.gc of .?2.5,000/ Well Vow "ir ■
■M-.. .bH, point, I ,],. not wish ,0 pass ,u,v nllo.tio,. upon .Mr. (>,«., ,, ,„ o: ['
'-. rarv, I hav. .,.ont,do,.. iu ,i„ ,n., ..bi,ity . and I do not bd.L ha M P t'
;.;- .^. not bian. .L El. . that;;,:.- ^:;'";:;;::Lt;r ^'t' Zci^z
;--r:;tt :^:n:r:r:^^:::-:-;rTr"fr
;; rhat any po.itiv. .n.t.u.t.on. w... g..,, , ,,,1 ..'^ti; J ,^,^ , ^^^ ^'-
^^op.log.s t ere, and it was f,. h„„ to givr th.. instructions. T 1 I ; le ■
opened, and thev were ordered to he .losed in ,88.0. • Now. vou w .1 .f. that n
Mr. Page« report sent fo you. ot wbi,h I bave a eonv bn dn.= n.f r
........ ..in, ,i„„ . .k„„.^c ,..0. .,. .„ . „ ;.;::!;, :i;.,t^ :z'z ;:„■ r^
Mr V)) V ♦>, u . • ^^.iuJdrine.s. tney got scared about a htt e sometimB*
Mr Ell s.thoiigh,^ It neces^aiy to guard the Welland Canal, and he wrote to OtZ!'
.nd made a r.por. .-.pon it, and a gonticman wa. sent here to Lptrt up^o^
iijll
A, I I Yi
if
matter; l,o .ou.ultod ^r.■ Elli.. nn,l r.^JLuvh-.l tl.n cr.tr, to h. .1 ,.
by tl.e l.tter tl..t M,. ri.,n.,,,s,„. was «o,kij,, M,,.,. ; ,„■! ,1... „I „',. .f H . " ,.
EUis „„,, Mr. Tho„„,.a . .. ...ay, ..nn.,!,,,; I nun.ot :„lli^ .^^ ' ' ,
l..l«. -, n,..I .xcmsod .upcn.su,,, ov, it ,h,o,,;,l, .^r,, Tho,n,Ho,. ; m', Ellis -., '
.lor , n M . T!,o,„p.,on. tl... re,,!.,,,, en^inec. Tliev. wl.cn u.mr.k.te.l u-ii' L
placc,l.ln.,..,,ly«a cv you. ch;.,g.; ,ac.nti,n., you .ill U, J.l.a J t<^ (, t
Bcc, ,vlnlc th. letter oftl,.. ICth ,.f F-.W..,. ..lorl tu rh./^m. X ,.t^ .^l:;
Mo,, at t at tijne. 3n,I tie ic. .tt. tho. i. not one wur.l abonl .^.^ -ic ^ ^
a t r n,„ .lose ornav,,,,ti„n ; nu.l Mr. Pag«. in ni.= ..viacn.c. ..y ].? vcr '
such ,n,t..uot.on.s lu; ..y. : "The „nc. wero oponoa, an.l tl.v were orZ t^.'
clo,,ea m 1 o cluru,,, the Fenian scare." Ho goes on to sa^ "The la L 1
•'gat., .houM be cloHod, 3t.,nn or no storm, at the clu.e of n vh,. io„ ■ I'.d .
J.>nk there ,s no .louht about th.t : l,o..a,.o. if an accident happens uruth^n;
o.day tle.o .. not the moan, ofstoppin., the water until the iolo o L I « En
lowered. The turn le «ate. are ru that. po.mion th.at they >.„not he raised I v
pn m a letter u. reference to that, .h.e .Mr. Ellis .Ira.., -.ttent.on to 1 a f. t
letter i. ,>i Aprd .30th, 183.1. I an. not ref^.ting upon Mr. Pa,e at all • , L
an omts^on up... the parr, of .somebody, Mr. Elli., a.s you wdl see. a 10,;':
iS .. a-sked the n.paKu,ent to give hin. instruction., about the tntnb e '^.t ' a K •
Colborn., and also at Port Robinson ; and ho sav«, in that let lor, "Tunrble nto
; provided at Port Colborno. an,!. I believe, at Port Robin.son ; bur t J^;^. ^
no prov..,.,n to r,a,se a.ul lou-er tlK.e at neauent interval, as there shon b"
keep them Iron. aecu,nulat.on« of nrud and in goo.l ^rorkin, onl.-r. un' I .houV
; bo Klad to h:.vo th. authority to have prope, appliances put up at one b 1
: purpose. Now. Mr. Page a.lnnt. that if the ,.te. had been dosed, Jtl 1 "
amount ol ,lan,a,^ would neee.s.avily have been done. Then I aske.I h ,.. ahout h
Btop logs Mr. Page says there were .rr,.n,emonr. there lo, putting in hT t^
logs ; but y.K. wdl .00 from the in.tru. tiou. that Mr. Ellis had r,o autho tv to •
in a.khnonal .top log., Th« evidence i.s that the water went four feet ov hi t '
au.l. even suj.posmg t.Kjt Mr. Elli. had put on r-v , feet nrore. the water wo , W S'
have gone over that. Then, at page 2J '5, Mi Ellis save ■ -'T „nu . '™""^ ^^'^
"instrueuous iVom Mr. Page or ^u.bod else ^ t in ■!^ZZ^T1 ""'
Then, on March 7th. 1885, Mr. Bradley wntos .s loll w. -T 2yt mu St'
;;of the .th in.unt. I an. drroeted to .nf;nm you that it i. .!; £ -^J ^ha^ f
• etop-Iogs, at t e north end .f ,he ...e^v.y r. Port Colborne, should be m.^„ s t
'in the event of such ,,enoa., injury oc.u, ring to .ome of the ininoriant wo t
•: that part of the Wellan.l Canal, a. to r.nUer this eour.e nece:!:^ j; sul^tr!:
ll oM : 111 II'
lit til It uiie .^rt III' tli.
!.aii h.' fiTv\y 'i lo^c ;
I. iiii! -Ui ii a iiiiin;
I'l' U]i tlif Siljiply !
i"!i ; Ijoi.iiusc ymi ■
Mr. l\\!ir, tliiit .\;
I'f wijti w:is tli lil.ii
I' ''iitiielv ill 1,1, ,,v,
.'•"on ; Mr. Ellis ;i,i
II i!'toi' tliat to ^fi
ii'-tiinrcd, uinlci hi
'1 toni[il,..toil, will I ,
iKiascil to jillow tl..
saiijo." So, yoiiui'
••It tliO J^Mte.H llitlfitl.
kufiliiijfjthuraclode':
s.i.V-s lio never i^.tv,
' were orJeroil to l.-
■. "Tholactis, tl.
avi.!<ation." And I
iiTis u|iou tbe caiiv
lolo of L.ik« Erie '■
i lie raised. I Imvr
on to tiiat fact; tl...
■it all; it has Ut..
SCO, as long ago u;-
imhk cfatesat I'or-
"Tumble g.itec! ar
'lit ibcro lias beci.
;Ji'jre shuiiM be t.:
nliT, ami I dlion!.
' at Oiiro tor tha:
losed, (hilt a lar^--
kpil liiiii about tb
ting in other stop
authority to jur.
feet ovcT the top,
1 water would stil:
ever recuiriMj an\
tional =.toji.log.-.
ilily to your lotte:
li'^irable that fl.
i;u be imtin, save
lonaiit works oi;
y. In such evetj:.
in^o,.(„.,,.; ;„ -•■',.-^'W'-iM, „ntuiil!y, b,. th.. rno.mun. n,!op(.,|.'' Soth.it
• ml ....e t\m n mvn- waa iu ro„ron>pI,mV,„ ,„ ,,„ that. Mr. Pi,«c h,,| ,m.r
■'-'..' h,.\ an npportiuatv of ...i,,,, th. .t.nn „,, to tha, ],. i.|., TIuto n.vor wa,
..n occasion lor ,t b.fore thi.. H,, ,ay.4 ih... stop.jo.^ u,.„. h,.|lt
ii«i»ial plan. Ill answdr to niv rjue.stion, he sari :
ae oriliiig t') thi
Xo spci'i.il iiititiiirtioiij wpio
,..^ on any furt her than tl- objo.t , onton,plat«.l wu. in kee,, tl.o ..rater out, and if
^ h.y wnr« not h,,h . ,^„„h ,h.v ahouM K, ,.ut nu. Th.y Uhl an.n.r the -nipn..
'.p to .I.u.uary 9th. No trouble ninne tho norlcs were ron.pl:..,! until Mien Tl...
wat.r was n«v.r hi«l,..r (or thirty yoarr Thny .o,. l.,;r tho ov,,,. h.-i^ht thov
w.,. M.hrn ^ons,n:,.,.,l ; ,,„| I „„po„. t]., ,,,,„, ,,^„, ,^,„^.^ ,;^^^,, ,^^.^^ ,.^;;^ ^ ^
"'.i" 'I'r- -Ti'^n, in iv^.-i. Mr. Kllis wrote the Dinurtnu-nt ..bout th. Fenian. •
■ .aul th..v w,.,v .„in, t„ blov „,, tli,. ranal. He was ordered in Feb, uarv, 1^S5 to
.^ut tha 1, . and ..h.,r the R.ue.., a,.,; tlioy wen> to put in the .t.>p.I„,, "that were
.bcre. riiat was iu ,.85, and yet the letter .lys to put in „o n.o,. .top-io^n I
o not .ay ,t . r,dte.t,n« n,ou Mr. Pa«e ; I look up,..i Mr. P.,. a. a uio.t' eminent
^1, n .1 .ook upon In-u ,,s ,u uUni.ato triend. aud I would not .itt.uipt to ca.st auv
.Uo..t on upon b.a. >..n- .onld I. b.ea.ue L. . a «eutienian of di.sti..,;.i,.h.,d .dn,i "
Kco-M.ued all over tin. 0,-ntiuent. but the b.st men uro liablu to mak. ,ui.takeV
.lr^ra-,..ay.it wiMho ru,.st e.xceptionai stoim know,, for th- la,t f.r, wears'
but wl„.„ wi. ,„u,e to e.^a,ni^e tho qnc3t>on about what damage has been duue" Mr'
lvVr,""r 7"!''' """ 'r° *''">^'''"''^'''^ 'la.na«e.veuif,he.a,c.shad'bee,;
; o^ed. and I think tlier. ,s uo doubt whatever that tho v,i,..r would hav. ,i,.u, .vw.
iftheKuti-. wa.o.elo,cd. to ti,u .„„„. height over the stone wo.k ,dong the ranal
-•er the stone Kicn,,, and that u would have w.ashed the banks; because it ia in
.vu once h.,e tuat ther. wc.e sto ms of the year before that, and two vea,> b.dbrc
rhat, whce tl... wuu.r r... two or three feet over the ttoue an.l washed'th. Ivuikn
•ae water i:ou„„g iVo.u Ldu.- Erie, and it ha., been in the habir of doin« that If
•r.ere rs any lault t,,. b. ..:,„nd it was in not havi„g that b,i,di enou.di. Dia that thi>-
.'.as an esecpt,o,r,l storn. ad,n,t,. .,i ,„. ,loubt whatever, that thei^e was a wind
• .0WU..1J and wbwievur 'h. wu,d -I.e. blow upon the ranal, and the water ri.es, it
V , sues the oauks eon,i,.,u,l,y. So tnat when it i. said the whole dama;-.. wa.s caused
-•• thrs I think ,t IS an e„i„.. uu.nake. The .videnco .how. that f.r the Ur..t time
>n tUnty vear. ba.k, at any rat., that the water opene.l the lock-gatc at Port
•lutlaud. where the.e i.. a drop of eight feet into the lake. So vou L it was ar.
-:.'ept,o,ial storm, vuich no perso.i could .nmi^d again..t. M,'. .Secord says that wh-n
.: -cut to bed at n o'clock he had no rcasou to believe the.e wonl.fbe a ..v er
^W' Z e ' " "T' "r •'" "" " '''' '' '' ''••'• ^-^ ^^'' ^"'« to blame ,
. a,it , It se ,„8 to me that ihis is outside of your cncjuirv. Iu ti,. lirst place, vou
::: sr^'r.?"^'. " '^'..i:''^^ ^^'^ '"-'^ i^-d ins judgment ui,^t-"f
^Li^fjH'' r''"''" '^' ^I'v"' "hoiiy;,bw,;;:'u;;rhe'w,;;iidhaveso
.epo ted to the (government, and they would have uu-L- Mr. EUi., p^v the penaltv
font, I he Government are seized of all tho.se la.ts, .audi
'■:?araiue the m.itler liiUy, they wili come to the conelu.«
-iijle, and that it i,s ni.
run satisfied if they
, , -'^iun Mr. Ellis i.- not lespon-
will rnn p t , t. T ''"'" "''''''' ^'° '''"''' ""' ^""^''^'M'-'te. So I think vou
wdl co,ne to the conelu.sion it is not a c.iso in which wo can
... • . X. .,,,. T-. . - -••• ni'iki' anv complaint
^.aumt Mr. £.li,s, Tno Govornment were in po.ssession of all the fac^., and rouki
vass an opiniou upon ,t U they cho.se to do so. Hut I referred to the evidlnce put
to show M.-. P,age must be mistaken with, regard to giving instruetious ; an 1 I lo
'111?,
I ]
i I
jl
i U.
knw 1 '.?''" '''"'''" "'■• ■^''- 'V- •'ays h. know, notlnngof hie ou ^
I ;!• \ ■, ' ''' '"' '"■''^'" '"^ '■"1"'" t'-'-'f *^ «•""''! '-^^t S-25.000 UVlrn
00 hatt heo.-..hna,v ga.Ksotn.e,, ...ploycl year alter vear, with tho .vc.p .
tuo additional ..en. have h.en .n.ploy.d wUh other work alon. tb^^Tau'
ha other w..,. a. .,..,..,, do,, alou, .i.h this : .o that th. da.na,;,;^ ^'2
unucd. It has b..n Mu.wu ,l.a a laV^e a,„o„nr of ,„at..rial .L n,to tU- cuur
every year ho.n wasi:.. : and wi.u th. host heave, the bank. Th t ho^
oxraordiuary aet.on upon the end.ankn.en,. Vear alt«r year a hu- ' l.o^^t .
> ai altu yt.u >. i ,,y „ ,, ,,„, ,^^„, ,^, ,tt,i|,„,, ,|, t,,;^ damaKe to on. .ton,
he ..tn.KUe was nude, and :he eros...et,.„. taken, son. tin.e alteftlL 2, i
place , .. u IS utt-riy nn,,oss,ble to say hou nn,eh is attributable to this,
NoSN, w.. ..o.ne to the general nianaKeineut of the .a.ial. I Omk I do n,
n^n-e to put .n any evideuee l.elore y.u of the eniei.,,,.. „■ u. lock e « V
ha e-the evnlenee ol tug-owners, tu^-eaptain., and ot],er gentIon,en wl ^ J,
ut,U.,ng t^he eanal and they invariably eon,e to the eonciu.io ' and . , ^ J '
hat the loek.tender. have done their best to get thetn through th,' 'in IV
he cvulenee o Captain iiawder.ly, Captain Ar.n.tron,, Captain Sa.,r C, ta '
..in. .heir v... th.ngh. s„ \ Hn-^r^^rir tirL: ^ir^^^^^^^^^
.anal ha. been uli.e.ently n.anaged by the loek-tender. a. .ar a, thev are!^ ^n '
;^ --"--;v to n,en.nh.gherposU.ou.. along the eunal. I do tot hi k
need ,,ay much about the n.auageUK.nt ol Mr D.uure : ht. nuu.ageu ent I a ha
gueii.uuae .atrsiaeiion. He eouies hue nin\ .„ i i '"^.^''U'ent ,o la. hu=
with a .ertiheate ol character iron:./ P. ti,! 7 ZiT^ T T'' ''"'^'"
^jervu.g n.n, a capuui nun, b.th eucgeti.. and skUied.' V^,,. .^ T '
tlha bear.s lestini.my m the ^aiue direetion u,.! I i i, i ' "^'^■'^•^■l -^J'
So.clusi.n that. ., ,ar a. he ,s eunee^! J hJ , t^ T TT '" '^'
,pou hitn and charged hi -ith having 'l^i^'^^^,!^;::: Z^^^^t
own private nu)n,,se.. craiusi il>. ;..f.,..„„.., ,>■ ., ' . "^"^ ^'"'*' '"» '"^
e V. as nii.stakeii and
own private puri^.e., .gain.t the iutere.st« of the government h
uot justilied Hi making the charge
With rjjgard to Mr S.uyth'. uiatiagotnuut, we leave tiic ..xord of M,- Suntl
who IS uu old and valuable -ervaiu on the caiiui W - 1 .v ,1, . ■ • '
n... who are not .oittical inend. of t:" ' h^l^^ t: '.^"^
^a CaptaL. .Norri. aud .Ir. Xo^lo.. Hohe.c C.ultct';:ar;: ^l^ to^^:
oppose. ,0 ,„„ ,,oht„n!!v. wl,o have ccne lu.,,. volunr.Mlv au,) ho,,.- fo.tin.c.v t,.
.H .n. oa,c,o„,.v .„ the .na„.ge,„«..t of th. ..„at h se.„s t,. „.e vou T . ^
on,,.,h„..o,„..lns,o„tha.,,),.tHn,ythl,a.a.te,l,„ th« ,.„...]... int^.^.r .„i ,
■l^'initv s„j,..,„„,.„,l„,„. h,, ,ii,.,,,,.j,„, ,,i, ,,„ti,, f,i,h,ully ;„,l well
As ,.ga,.ls the ,.,u„.ge,.,c„t of th. ...k.) hy M.-. ]£lli«, r do „c, th„.k that vu„
>.n. ,.o„t to :, .s.„gK. .(.twuent ,„ th. ..v„le,H,. whi.l, will ..3,-,a,.t vo„ in .o.nhiKto
..yoclK.,-,..o„cu.,„. ,1M„ tha, M,. Ellis l,a. ..anag.l the c-alweli. m" Si
: :;;f ;;: u'?,r'"r" ' "r r^^'"^^ '"" ^^ '^ *^'^ ^«--^>- ■^' "- --^
mei.t. M . ,\r..C.ll,„„ I,.., stu,ho„sly avoided asking a .ine.stior, as to whetJie. he
■nnj-age, the .„., .. ,, „, ,,,, ea,,tai„ Ko.s. Captain Lnin, Captain M ^pp^i
•nd C pta„, H„n,e all have p,.ivate g.ievanees of thei,- ow,,. Xot L s-'n^le ,, a,
::^ :t ;:t\;: ;7'';v'^":;' r^-^ ^ '-'^ thatobs^v^tiiin!
T • '" " "' '^ ■■'^'^ '''' ^l"^^'"""" '^^ ^" ^'"^ n>anagem.nt of the
attacU.g tlH ,na„ag.,n.„t ,.t the ,anal, t,L.,e arc dozens of .nen within vour
t. ^ou .an go back aud ,:xa„„„e ,„t,> the ,nanagen,ent of the canal f „• the pa8t
; tn;;;'^:'.;;;;::;" t "1""^ """^^ " ^'^^ "^ ^^^" -'^-^^^ -^ ^ ^^s.
.0 ,1; to\ n '■'' ''•""• l^"""^"^'"^'>-«'"'-''"^ and it .ill ,.en.ai„ as a
n o.u„ne, t to M. Llh. .nanagement lor all time to co.ne. We havo the evidenee
:; r;: z:;;"/t'^^'' '""''^ -' '"^^ ^- '-' ^-^^ i^'-t^- ^ genial t
; , I' 'i''f'>^ "' ^ l^"K'.' out..-,'p>-,se in .Are,ritt,.n, the paper tmll; he testiir^g as
^t u, efh,.:ent u,a„age.nent of the .anal. We hav. the toslunouv ^Av^^'
-ko .say. no ,nan has over eon,plained of hi. u,anago,ue„t, M,-. Pa.e ,J^eZ
car .,0 cotnpla,nt.s of M,.. Eili. n,anageu,c„t." He .ays that at pa^e ui' itok
upon that a. „npo,tant tcsti,nony. M'o have Alexande,. Mui,. who has bl a m
ong Relor,,u.r who has no friendly f.eli„gs towards this Govert^unt ; , 21 ul
0. o .Mr S n,tl, and Mr, Den.a.e, Then we have Mr. Baldwin, tna.ager oftho
Ogdeu.bu,g Iransportation Li„e, . gen,h.„,,n who controls a la,.g aTJuJt o"
tnUhc con,.ng th.ough the -anal; he says Ellis 1ms done mne], o Lukretl
-al : he ha. .nanaged it etheieiuly : he want, to «oc no cha„ge. Thl r^e^
r,.sia. ut o the Hefoian Assoe.at.o,, I do n.,t k„ow whether that is an liono.able
I a.e 0, not ; I aur not in the .ee.ets of that o.gani.at.ou at all ; but j'lgir '^
.uy owt, organ,.at,on. I ^vouId thtnk that it wa. not vcrv h.crat ve at a", r u, H
W.itthous, ot ron.n o. vos^el-owuer, und other persons who have a .i^^ht to l<now
,1 nu, a ,,, 1, Jciboii wlio saya his whole imorcst foi a life time has bet.,
rapped up .„ the oaual : he draw, a con.parison between Ellis and his d c' 'nl
ud .ays there .s a .na.-ked distinction in favor of M... Ellis; and then \^72
U«t.wrtu,.,.Mr. Xcelon. aud his testimony is valuable, to . All thL , it
>hi
;! I'll
esUfy. to he goo.l managen.ont of M.. Ell,. So vo., ,„„m <.ome to th,- < on.ln.sio.,
he canal ha, t.ean efficently mana^e.l hy Mv. Klli. It i. true that little thil
have cro,pe. up .r« aud there; In.t look at ,he gigantic uorlc whi.h is «oin, o?,
He h bee. hero tor ton years : and what can you say against Mr. Ellis ? He has
Kot 249 pu.kets; that is all ho ha. put .u his pocket and that not paid for by the
-vornment ; he, ha. had sod bronght to his house, aud a few loads of gravel ;" and
or two occasions, but his .^hole interest has been i. favor of the canal L th.e
AT.d the last poiut is the testimonial to Mr Ellis. I pointed out to vou. and 1
now show you that M. Conway, the n.ana.er o, the canal at Lachine, the genera
superintendent that he has ha,l a testin.onial giv,,n to bin, repeatedlv, and that
too, wub the knowledge of the Government,, giv.n to him in a j.ubli; place con,'
...ented upoo by the merchants of Montreal i,i the Board of Tr.de, and public
):itone y giveu to it; and yet there has been no ,en.onst,ance. It is a n,atter of
•til to vn 'pr'^'lT" T'^"^ '^"'' ^^"''^^' '^"^ '° ''y ♦^'•■'^ ^">' "«ti»'^"ial
Th T A T ' ? '■ "' " ^''"'""^ "'"'''"•^'''•' ''^' ''-''y '"■ "--^lution, Ifke that of
the fhorold Township, or otherwise, is given in consequence of a .service to a class
in the community, I think is not justitied.
But Mr. Ellis, when he came here, was in au unfortunate position. I do net
know that you are here to expose his private aflairs,
THE COMMISSIOXER-No.
MR. RYKERT-He came heroin an unfortunate position; aud if thev gav.
hi,ii a U^stimouial, It was uot lor the purpose of making hi,n giv. the.n a .^uidpro
qao. He has acted m the public iuterest, and I think the testimonials have had uo
derogutory etie.ct on the public iut«rest. And, with these remarks, I submit with
ail conhdeuce, that, after a careful review of the matter, you will repo, t that the
whole investigation, lioin beginning to end. was prompt..! by malice, bv a personal
?pit9, lu the uiterests of a man named Mossip, who ^^ as totally unwJrthv of auy
truet being reposed iu him. I make those observations because Mr. McCalluni
charges that this niau was unjustly disu,is6cd. .\ow, we have shown he i. a man
totally unworthy of the conh.leuce of anybody, unworthy of being employed; aud
all the chaiges, from beginning to end, are based entirely upon the evidcuce of dis
aj.pointed men, who have been turned out of office because they disobeyed orders or
for. drunkenness, or for the violation of some rules, which were la^cessary to' be
enlorced lu order to have elhcieut management on the canal. So I think you will
come to the conclusion that the whole thing, Irom beginning to end, is a trivolous
and vexaliouD en.,uiry ; aud I w..uld u,-ge uj.on you strongly, if I l,e permitted to do
so, to make such a report to the Government as will satisfy them that there waa no
ground ior the enquiry ; that while you make your suggestions, as I know you will
do, about the management of the g.'eat ,mblic woik, I think yuu must come to the
conclusion that no portion of the repo.t will be able to fasten upon Mr Elli. auv
stigma 01- any chai'ge that he has acted in dereliction of bis duty
THE COMMLSSIOXEK-I wi,.h to just say, at the close ot'this invcMigation,
Ln^'Tfi'-'i , I ''"°''^"' '"'H>«^"""^^v of doing it. and 1 wish it taken
dQ^^n. that 1 have been exceedingly gratified at the courtesy that has been extended
.to me personally by the partie. conducting the case, by Senator MeCallum on the
liiii.
fi till- couohisioii
at little thuifT^
liiili is f^oiu^ nil
Ellis ? He has
I paid fill" by tlirt
of ^Tavel ; ami
ffineut upon onc-
? canal and tlic
It to you, and I
ne, tlie gcnoial
idly, and that,
blic placo. com-
ide, and public
is a matter of
my testimonial
on, like tliat of
ivico to a class
39
I think, ui ,, vury .a.efu] mann-T I .hall nrobablv HuA it , ' "' ' ■''"^'^ ""■'•
'■iMium.'.^ in connection ^vith this matter in rprird .„ .h« O" • i
I do net
I if they gavo
leni a :^uid pro
■h have had uu
I sulimit, with
spoil that the
by a personal
worthy of any
Ir. iicCiUmu
n he is a man
mployud ; and
iilcucf of ditj.
jyed orders, or
lucRssiiry to ba
link you wjU
is a frivolou.s
-Tmittod to do
thuro was no
now you will
>t tome to the
Ur. Ellia any
invcftifration,
wish it taken
icen uxtouded
dlum on th9