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REPORTS, Ri: iLRxs, AM) ()T1ii;r i'ai'i:rs, I'KIN'TEI) IIV THE HOUSKS OF PARLIAMENT 0FGKI;AT BklTAI.N AM) IRHLA.M). \()LLMi; I Kehrlng Sea Pishrrles, Correspondence &c . 1890-1892. ,\krani;ki) and iim'Nr) iiv P. S. KING cK: SOX, PARLIAMENTARY BOOKSELLERS AND BOOKBINDERS, WESTMINSTER, LONDON, S,\V. VIU) I I m C U T E V. T S (,|3,I CorrespondencR, 1886-1890, CaS3 Further Correspondence, 1890-1891 (oit^ Further Correspondence, 1891. fe04' Correspondence re/ Seizure of British Schooner "Araunah" . t*o33 Correspondence, 1892. (,t3S Further Corrospondonce, 1891-1892. tt 54- Treaty between England & America, Febi'uary 1892, 28; Vo 1 MK h «. UNITED STATES. No. 2 (1890). .HT /'AT/ n » 10 :MK AT !• .-1 CORRESPONDENCE • T'it I • " . - -1 ' 1. , . 1 ! ■ / SBBFEOTINe THS A. ;t J ?fi>. '■ .tix'' ;■ . BEHIUNG SE'A SEAL FISHERIES: t.~.iw^.. u' ■» .^ lit, V it trill' V MM ((• lf«>i;w>t ftfoo «u i«n<*;> rl^Mtm <K>I ' ■ \|^-t|l!4( l.> ^ I'j-jo ■.:■« tr V 1886-90. •'i.i « /. i ; r , i;<> • ,.!,!;. "!,--« ;l ,, I,. , . , .;;, .< / . .. "■7 • . : , «" -* Presented to both Houaef of Parliament by Command of Her Majesty, iww-f. ». r.^.«i«o »!,■,„,« J ♦. August 1890. t ■>■ } ' -.T *». ■, IT'.. MK I -tmit ' C>i3l . , m LONDON: PRINTED FOR HER MAJESTY'S STATIONERY OFFICE I .y . BY HARRISON AND SONS, ST. MARTIN'S LANS, ' i.K ' rSINTSSI IN OMIINAKr TO Bts MAiUTT. And tu bt) purchwed, cither directlj or Ibrough uj Bookfelltr, from EYRE AND SrorriSWOODE, East Habdins Stkut, Fuit Stbbit, E.G., .^h» 32, Abinooon Stbht, WstTHiNwriB, S.W.i ob ADAM AMD CHARLES BLACK, 6, Nobth Bbidsb, EoiNBnBSHt ob HODGES, FIGGIS, & Co., 104, OMnox Stbiit, Drauv, No. 10 II 13 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 tO*- Ij TABLE OF CONTENTS. Nome. Colonial Oflicc . T.I Sir I.. Wot .. Colonial Office •. Sir h. Wost , , •» It • • Admiralty .. Colonial Office .. To Sir L. Wet . . Sir L. Weat To Sir L. Weit Sir L, West Admiralty , . Messrs. Lampson and Co. Colonial Office , . To Sir L. West .. Sir L. West .. .. To Messrs. Larapson and Co. Sir L. West To Sir L. West .. (Teleerapliic) Sir L. West Colonial Office ., .. To Sir L. West . . Sir L. West To Sir I.. We.sL Sir I,. West n.ite. Sept. I, 1686 9. 25, 21. 21. Oct. 7, 16, 20. 21, Colonial Office To Colonial Office. an ' Sir L. West 31 Colonial Office 39 1 Sir 1,. \\ e»' 33 34 Colonial OfHvc To Sir L. West 21. 30, 21, Nov. 4. 12, 16, 18, ■ 9, 19. 1 4, Dec. G, 10. Jiin. 4, 1887 10, 27. Feb. 4. Apr. 8. U, .Ian. 30. Fell. 2S. Mar. IS, Subject. P«g« Three Brilisli Oolumliian sealers selied l>y United Slates' revenue-criiiier " Corwin " Copy of above. To ask United Slitet' Government for information . . . , . . , , Itefera to No. 1. Details of cftptures of " Itiorn- ton," " Onward," and " Carolina." Protest shnnld be made and compensation demanded . . History of the orij^in of the Alaska Commercial Company . . • • . • • • Newspaper extracts relating to teiiures . . Sends copy of United Stales' Act to prevent ex'er- mination of fur-bearing animals in Alaika. and of the Alaska Company's lease , . . . Kefers to No. S. Sends further details, with Keport of Committee of Canadian Privy Coimcil. Has any action been taken f . , To protest against seixiires and reserve riuhts Haa any reply been received to No. 21 Or any appeal lodi|[ed against decisions of United States' Courts ? . . . , . , Repliai to above. No information ReeapitulalM beta of seiaures as reported to Her Mqeaty's Oorernmeiit. To see Mr. Bayard, who will, no donbt, make due reparation . . Copie* of notes founded on Noa. 9 and 8 Extract from " Daily British Colonist " of Victoria relating to the aeiiuies . . . . . , Fact* relating to seal fishery. Hope Her Majesty's Government will support UniteH States' Govern- ment in preserving seals Telegram from Canada asking if any answer has been received from United States. Case one of great hardship ,. .. ,. .. Substance of above. To report . . Answers above. Mr. Bayard has not yet received pffirinl report of proceedings of Court Acknowledges No. 14. Question being considered Refers to No. 10. Mr. Bayard's apologies for delay . . . . . . . . To suek assurances that no seizures will be made beyond Alaska territorial waters pending settle- mcnc •• •■ •• •■ ■• Copy of note founded on above .. .. Copy of despatch from Canada, with Keport of Privy Council explaining views of Dominiou Go> Teniinent on historical rights, with letters from persons interested, and newspaper extracts . . Copy of preceding. To express concern at absence of information, and urge immediate attention .. Note to Mr. Bayard founded on above ,. .. Note from Mr. Bayard explaining delay and assur- ing of observance of international obligations , . To aok for infornintion from time to time President Ims issued orders for discontinuance of pending proceedings, and release of vessels and |.crsons . . Despatch from Governor-General, with Report of Privy Council, nnd full statements of claims for compensation Acknowledges above. Proposed to defer sending in claims pending further ex.imination ,. .. Report of Governor of Alaska for 1886 . . Answers No. 2!). Concurs in delay Copy of letter from u San Fraueisco firm to Pre- sident protesting ,i)^uinst exclusive claims of Alaska Company . . Can Canadian vesrels coimt on not being molested during ensuing season ? .. ,. .. To make above inquiry ., 9 11 12 15 20 ■ 90 20 1 20 29 1 23 ♦ ■■'! 24 ,'t ,-•* 25 S6 1 26 26 ■ 27 97 27 28 87 37 38 38 35 40 44 45 49 49 52 53 TABLB or OOHTBNM. iii No. 35 37 38 39 40 41 43 44 45 4(! 47 4fi 49 SO 51 52 Name. Sir I,. W.-»l 54 5n 56 67 58 59 (iO 61 62 G3 64 65 66 Dati. i( II Colonial Office To Colonial Uflite.. To Sir 1.. \\>it Sir L. Went To Sir L. Went Sir \.. Went To Sir L. Went Sir L. W.vt Ailniirnltv Sir L. West (Ti'legrapliic) Mar. ar. 1887 Apr. 2, 13. May 6, 30, Adin'ralty To Sir L. We»t . . Sir H. Hollaiiil to Mnrquii of Laiisilowne Sir L. West To Sir L. West .. Cnloniiil (XBce .. .. To Sir L. West Memorandum communicated b_v Baron Pjetten Sir L. West Admiralty .. .. Sir L. West Memorandum communicated by M. d'Adelborg To M. d'Adelborg ., June 27, July 8, 9, 12, Aug. 2, 4. 10. 10. l.^, 24. 20, 22, Sept. 5, 10. M, 6, 15. 15, i4, 27, 27, Oct. 5, Sept. 23, Oct. 4, Sept. 28, Oct. 10, 11. SUBJKCT. Pag. 1128] Attempts of Alaaka Company to obtain further protection , . . . , , 33 The Captain nf the " Corwin " lia< been cited to defend liiuisr'f for seiiurot nlTecteil on Amnrican schooner " t ierra " .. .. ..43 Mr. niaine'ii rej lies to questions founded on No. 34. Indefinite. / (closes " Provisions reliting to the IJnorganiMt' Territory of Alaska" .. 54 Hefers to No, t6. Cnae postponed . . 58 Extract from " New York Times," showing United Rtatet' reply to pretensions of Hussia prcTioua to cession of Alaska .. •• .. •• 58 Keport of Canadian Privy Council urging speedy reparation, with a risumo of facts by .Minister of Marine and Pisherie.1 ,. .. .. 61 Acknowledges above. Wo should wait for Keport of judicial proceedings. Want copies of pa|i«rs laid before (Canadian Parli.iment . . . . 64 Copy of No. 40. To jiet judicial records . . 64 Forwards copies of judicial proceedinir* in Alaska District Court in cases of tiie three veascla seized 64 Acknowled),'r« above Were they communicated without comment ^ . .. ., .•76 Answers above. Yes .. ..76 News received of further seizures. To remind Mr. tlaynril of iisauranccs given in No. 37, and to communicate information , .. .. 76 Asks lor further iut'orniation and detniU connected with ju licial proceedinf;» sent home in No. 4.1 . 77 Mr. Hayard's replies to No. 46. He knows of no nsHurances, but will ask grounds for seizures .. 77 Seizure of " Anna Beck " .. .. J9 I'oHition of " Sayward," " Dolphin," and " (.race " when seised, with remarks on habits of seals . . 79 Copies of Reports by Captain of the '■ Itush," who effected above captures, giving details . . . . 80 Reports by Rear-Admiral Sir M, Cnlme-Seymour on seizures of " Anna Beck " and " W. P. Say- ward," with copies of statements, declarations, and indictments . . . . . . . . 82 General review of the position. No doubt United States' Government will admit their liability, and cive i-onipensHtion . .. .. ..88 Sends ropy of No. 53. Explains position .. 90 " New York Times " on maritime jurisdiction in Behring's Sea .. .. .. ..91 Have any steps been taken to appeal in cases of " Onward," " Carolina," and " Thornton " ? . . 92 Copies of two despatches from Canada respecting seixure of "Grace," "Dolphin," and " W. P. hayward" .. .. .. ..92 Telegram from Canada reporting that vessels are still detained, and asking for inquiry . . . . 95 Copy of above. To inquire why vessels have not been released as promised (see No. 27) .. ' 93 Copies nf inclosurcs iu No. 57. To make repre- 1 sentations to United States' Government respect- | ing seizure of these three vessels . . . . 96 German Government ask views of Her Majesty's Government as to proposal of United States for International Convention for prefervation of seals 96 Acknowledges receipt of No. 53. Copy lett with Mr. Dayard . . . . . . . . 96 Copy of letter from Commander-iu.chief on Pacific Station, with Hit of sealing schooners . . . . 96 Answers No. 59. Note to Mr. Bayard respecting non-release of teasels, and extract from " New York Hcralu " on the subject . . 98 Invitation from United States to Sweden to join negotiations for preservation , . . . 98 Answers above. No aimilar invitation received from United States' Government. Will Sweden accept?.. .. .. .. .. 99 a 2 h TASUt OT OONTBNn. No. Nime. Date. HuHJICT. l>age 67 To Baron i'leiten.. .. Oct. lit 1887 Aniwera No. fil. No niniilar proputal maiii' to Her Majraty'i (iovernnient. VVIiat will lie ili>- eiaioii of Cicrnian Oovernmetit ? 9!) (!« Admiralty ., 13, SeniU copy of latter from Coinmander-in-cliipf on I'ariAc Station, with new«pa|>er exlracli •< to ... deniiirror handml in on bi'half uf Itrilltli ieili>ra 99 69 Sir L. Weit 14. Kcnewed urderi aviit for releaae of vcaielii lO-J 70 Colutiial Offlcp a. I7t Copy of aeapatcli from Cnnada rvtpectiiiK leiiure ot' " Alfr»d .\<lama." SiwgeHln llint proteni aKiiin't right of teiiurc ihoiila Im! niude to Inited i- ■ • r ' Stales' Government . . 103 71 To Sir L. West . . 19, Refer* to ahove. To protem UKiiinit aeliure of " .Vlfred Adamf " and »imilAr prorecilinijii 110 73 To ColnninI Office aot Aniwerit Nil. 70. Sir \^ WeM instructed to proteat aiiainat ti-inure of •■ Alfred .\<lnn«." Proteati made in previoui eaaca .. 110 78 Sirl. Weit 19, Refera to Noa. .19 and 64. Iteply received from Mr. Bayard 110 74 » tl • ■ ■ • 19. Aniwera No. A6. Noticeit of appeal lying in Sitkn Court. No further atupa taken . . 111 75 fl n • • •• 19, Anawera No. 6U. Note to Mr. Uavard 'eapectioK aeiaure of " Grace," " Dolpliin,'' and " W. P. Sayward " 111 70 It *t •• •* M, Refera to above. Reply from Mr. liayard acknow- ledging note re9|iectinK aeiaurea of threi> vvaaela , . Kricf of UniUul Stntea (iovernmvnt filed in Sitka 112 77 W II • • • • 14, Court, and article thereon from " New York Herald" 112 78 To Sir L. West .. 2C, Refera to No. 71. To (ji»e Mr. Bayard copy of Ineloaiire in No. 70 121 79 1* f* ■ • •• 89, liefera to No. C!). Aiipnives aciion 121 80 Sir L. \V«>«t .. ., 20, Anawera No. 71. Copy of note to .Mr. Bayard protestiiii; agiiinat aeiaure of " .Alfred .Vdams " '. and aiinilar proceedinjra 121 81 It If •• •• 93. Kefera to above. C'oj.y of note from .\lr. liayard acknowledging " Alfred Ad.niia " proteat li2 82 Colonial Office Nov. 19, De8|>atcli from Canada incluaini; Minute of Execu- tive Council of Briliah Columbia respecting value of sealing industry to province 12'.' 8S i To I'lenipntenlinrii'H at I'iilirrlea Confprcnce 28, No invitation received from UniU-d States' Oovern- ment aa to negotiations fur preservation of seals. Ilcr Majesty's Gnvernmciit favourably dispo^eil to negotiate separately from question of fishery right* .. .'. .. .. .. 124 84 It It 7i. Sends copies of Nos. 82 aii<l 8.5 185 8A To Colonial UflSce. . 99, Anbwers No. 82. Quotes instructions to Plenipo- tentiaries at Fi<hery Conference as to including Behring Sea question 12& 86 Mr. .I.Chnniberlain, iM.I'. .. as. Explains circumstances under which negotiations for preservation of seals were mentioned. Subject not referred to at Conference 125 87 Colonial Office . . Dec. 20, Revised claims of owners of " Thornton " and " Carolina " . . . . . . 126 88 Sir L. Wrsl Jan. ."i, 1888 Kcl'ori to Nos. 36 and 38. (.'ise of " Sierra " will probably be dismissed 136 H9 Colonial Office .. 14. Refers to No. 87. Revised claim of owner of "Onward" 13fi 9U 93, Statements of claims of owners and ^tgents of " Favourite," " W. P. Sayward," " (.race," " Anna Bee " " Dolphin," ' Alfred Adams," and "Ada".. .. .. .. .. 141 91 If It . • Feb. 3. Despatch from Canada saying notice has been given of orders for release of " Onward," "Thornton," T IT " ■ 1 rt" ■ .;;. ' '• ■■" -' and "Carolina" .. 164 92 1 1 If f •• •• 1 ■' -■ yn 1 • t ... r . : -.( J' 13. Revised alalement of claims of "Thornton," '-On- war*," and "Carolina," and statement of peraonal claims of masters ond mates of Dolphin," " W. P Sovward," " Anna Berk," "Grace," and "Ada" ..' I6S 93 .Mr. Phelpx 17, Submits Mr. Bayard's deUiled proposal for Inter- national Regulation* 172 94 Sir L. Weit 10, " New York Herald " on the question of the seiauret and closed seas 180 9S To Sir L. Weal . . 99, Copy of No. 93 f 181 TABUI or COKTVNTB. Itgr <' to 1 do- U9 '»' on 1% to •r» 99 • • lO'J itiire oteit iiitrii • • 1U3 V of ,. 110 otait teat! ,, 110 Croiii 110 g in ., 111 cting f.P. .. 111 IIOW- eli.. 113 Silks York ,, 112 y of , , 12! 181 yard ins " 121 yard li'l LCCU- talue • • \Vi crn- ealx. mI to liery • • 124 • , 125 lipu- ding 12b I for ijecl 1-25 niwl , , 126 will • • 13G ■ of , , I3(> of nna and , , 141 vpn un," 164 On- >nal ■„ »' in, nnd 165 Icr- 172 irci 180 1 I 181 No. or, Nnmr. Ti. Sir I. We-it 97 To Colonial Office . W To M. de Staal <)<) M. ill' Klnnl 100 { Colonial Offirr 101 I To Colonial Office lOJ I To Sir I.. \^nl . 103 I Colonial Offlrv . 104 I To Colonial Oflico . 106 Colonial OtKoc Dale. 106 Count Piper 107 I Colonial Oltir* 108 109 110 112 ,T«SirL. Weit »*>m k*« To Colonial Office... . • Sir L. W'ml .. .. Ti> Sir L. Well „ Sir L. \Vc»l . . . . (TeU<(!i'aphic) 113 I To CiiloiiinI Ofli<« 114 I Colonial Office 116 ! To Colonial Uflice 117 Sir L. Weal IIH 119 ; Feb. 92, I HNS Mar. a, 3. 7. 12, 17. 17. 'i'i, n, 1*, ij • .V U, .r.i I .'* .' 88, «0. ifwui n- ak 30. 19, Apr. 3, HUBJICT. 120 ' 12i I 10, 14, Mar. 27, 31, Apr. a, To Sir It. Morier (alio to Sir I L. \Ve«t) 1 122 To Sir L. VVeat .. I I'ja I To Colonial Office, Hoard of Trnde, nnd Admiralty 124 ' Colonial Oilicc 13S Sir L. Weal 126 Colonial Office 127 .\dniiralty 128 I Colonial Ofllce I 129 130 To Sir I.. West !31 Sir 1,. \Ve.t 132 Hoard of Trade 133 134 Sir I,. Wem (i (t..,iinit«<f««| ii;)*!...! ;*■ 6, 16. 17, 20, yo, n. 34, 25, 35, 27, 2P, 19. May 4, .Apr. 32. May 1, Pane International HeKul.ition* ('aee Nii. 93). Interview with Mr. Plielpii, Readinex lo join I'nited Statea and Huiaia n an Agrvenienl IRl Copiei of above and No. 9M, f>ir ohnerv.itiiiiia 1H2 Would be Klad if he would join in ditruss'on 182 AnitMvra above. Will aak for inotnivlionii ., 1^2 Anawera No. 97. Muat contiilt ('anaiU . .. 1811 Antwera almve. Copiea of >!iia. 9H 99, nnd 103 Have reaerved all rigbtt and claima . . 180 Ciipira of Noa. 98 and 99. Her Majeaty'a liovern nieiit do not admit rit;hta of juriadietlon .. 1^4 Snbniit4 notice of a qiieMtinn by .Mr. (iourley, .M.P., for opinion an to anawer on points raiaetl . 184 Answer* above .. .. ., 18ft Telegram from (lovernor-Oeneral af rCauada, who ' is anxious for atinrancea (Canadian i^swlt will not be iMerfered wilb in coming teaaoa IMS Swediaii Uovernment hopes the neRotiationa will be lucceMful, but is not sufficiently int«reatad to take pait . . .. 18S Refers to Nbs. 104 and 103. Puaaibility of armed reaiattiir'e bjr sealers. Anxious for assurances of non-iui,-; 'oncc. As to sending a man-of-war towalcliVi -eedinga .. .187 Copv of above. To represent eatremu ii'.<iJorlance o^ llf .^lajeaty's (ioTeriinient beinj; able lo crtrudiet n'jiorl of intended seiiiires by United 't.es . ■ .. |)« A(ib,kcra No. 107. 'iivos substance of aliovo 1H8 On ri|[bt of a .ized vesseU to buud pelldin^' .'ip|ii'.'il 188 Interview Willi Mr. I'liejps. Mr. Hayard's iinotiicial asaur:,, cfk iliat vv$sfls will nut be noletled pending negotiations, tbou^jh the latter would bu rendered abortive by coining Presidential election 188 See No. 10?. ^^> orders issued vet for capiiiie of Hritisli vessels .. .. ' .. ,. 189 Subslanre of above .. .. 189 Oil question of bonding captured rcaltTS (sec No. 110) .. .. IflO Answers No. 114. Views on bondini; .ind appeal questions .. ., .. 191 Sends a letter by Mr. Swun, Aaaistani Collector of Port Townsenil, on fur-seals, beariii!; on question of jurisdiction .. ..191 Copy of communication founded on .Nil. ID J .. IU4 Refers to Nr. 1 10. Memorandum by .Mr. lienjnniin. Councillur-ot-Law. Honding ipiestion settled ., .194 Refers to No. 1(18. Execution of inntrnclions. Mr. Hayard hopes there will be no more seizures. 195 Interview with Russian Ambassador :iii I I'liiled States' Charg£' d'Affaires. Decision as to n pni- visioiial basis for negotiation ,. ..I 19G Propose .Mixed Conimission to invv»tiga!e claims and decide as lo compensation ..I 197 Copy of No. 121, for ohservatioiia .. 197 Answers S'o. 1)6. Tclegrani from C.inada as to last year'* captures ., ., 197 Refers to No. 120. Private note from Air. Havard, repeating that no orders for aeixures bavi' been issued .. .. 198 Telegrams between Canada ami Hritisb Columbia. As to self-defence by sealers . . 198 Answers No. 123. Fully eoncur .. .. 1U9 Ditto, Canada will pronnbly make reserves. Copies of correspondence . . .. ..199 See above. Cantidi.in i'ritiei«ms .. .. 201 See .'' . ll-f. I'mpese to extend lime (or appeal .. 201 Sf» No. |2-.'. I'opy of note to Mr. Ha\ard . . 202 Answers No. 123. Disposed to agree .. .. wO'J Refers to Ne. 131. Mr. Baynrd prefers to await - judgment of Appellate Court . . , . 203 Answers No. )30. Copy of note to Mr. H.iyard .. i 203 TABLB OP CONTBNTl. No. 135 196 137 138 Name. / Colonial Office SirL. We.» M. (le Staal Colonial Office 139 V Mr. Phelpi 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 153 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 173 173 174 175 176 Colonial Office To SirL. Wirt .. ToMr. PhelM .. To Colonial Office. . n 11 • • Colonial Office Sir L. West ToSirL. Weat .. To Colonial Office, , To SirL. West .. To Colonial Office Sir L. West To Colonial Office. . . . Colonial Office To Lord Sackville . . . . (Telegraphic) To Colonial Office . Sir L. Weat To Colonial Office . . Colonial Office . , . . To Colonial Office Colonial Office . . . To Mr. Herbert .. (Telcpraphic) Coloniil Office To Mr. Herbert ., (Telegraphic) Mr. Herbert (Telegraphic) To Colonial Olliro Mr. Herbert Date. May 12, 1888 30, July 35, 25. 28, Aug. 1, 3. 2, 9. 3. 10, 10, 18, 18, 16, Sept. 1, 1. 3. 3, 13, 15, Oct. 2, 8, 10, 10, .Sept. 30, Oct. 13, 20, 2a, Nov. 1, 17, 21, 22. 26, Dec. 3, Ji 5, Sub J SCI. Page Nov. 80, Dec. 12, Jan. 8, 1889 Canadian objectioni to close-time Regulations main- tained . . Refers to No. 134. Mr. Bayard's views as to extension of time for appeal . . . , . Extract from a Russian Memorandum regarding the hunting of seals .. .. Circumitancet under which " W. P. Sayward " was released under bond at Sitka ., Urges immediate action in regard to International Convention .. Sends a telegram respecting the proposed sale by the United States of the " .4nna Beck," " Dol- phin," " Grace," and " Ada." Urge its post. Subitanoe of above, for required action ■ . . . Aeknonledges No. 139 .. .• »• Copy of No. 189, for early eonaideration .. Substance of No. 141 .. .. .. Answera No. 143. Canadian Report on its way .. Refers to No. 144. Canada informed . . Minute of Canadian Privy Council, giving their views on the United States' proposals for a close time. They protest against United States' doc- innc a* «9 «« *« «• Refers to No. 146. Minute* by Canadian Privy Council on proposed niet. What is progress of "W. P. Sayward "case? Answers No. 141. Note to United States' Govem- mept .. .. .. ,. ., Refers to above. Sale will be postponed Ditto. Copy of Mo. 148, for laport Ditto Substance of preceding . . . . Kvfcrs to No. 121. Convenation with Mr. Phelps on close season question. Difficulties felt by Canada , , , . . . . . Refers to No. 147, Close time. Substance of above .. ., .. ,. ., Refers to No, 130. Copies of correspondence. Should sale be proceeded with ? Answers No. 151. Case of "Sayward" not yet docketed in Supreme Court .. Copy of No, 153. What action ? Answers above. Proposed reply . , . . To act in sense of above . . . . . , Substance of above .. .. .. _ Refers to No, 155. As to disposal of condemned sealers . . • , . . , . , . Refers to No. 160. Copy of No. 161. What should be done with " Ada " ? " W. P. Sayward." See No, 156. Should not action advised by Canada now be taken ? Sec No. 158, Despatch from Canada on bonding of " Grace," " Dolphin," and " Anna Beck " .. Refers to above and No, 162. As to case of "Ada",. .. Should substance of above be commnnirated ? Answers above. Yes .See No. 159. Substance of No. 165 .. " Ada," Correspondence from Canada as to original appraisement , . . , . , See No. 1 64. What has been done about appraise- ment ? , , . , Wliat answer to No. 159 ? Answers above. None. Has asked Substance of above .. .. .. .. Refers to No. 16ti. Steps Uken Refers to No. 171. Mr. Bayard on tlic question of the sale .. .. ,. .. Mr. Hoar's motion in Set:'ate for papers and Regu- lations governing 6sheriei- . . ■204 204 205 208 309 SC9 310 SIO 210 311 211 211 212 216 219 •213 220 2;i0 320 221 221 223 ■223 '223 224 224 224 225 225 ■226 228 228 228 228 229 229 'J.3U 230 230 '230 231 333 TABLB OF rOMTBNTS. tU No. Name. Date. Subject. Page 177 To Mr. Edwardei.. Mar. 23, 1889 Pretident Harriion't Proclamation a((ainit foreign •ealers entering Rehrin); Sea. To telegraph terms of.. 234 178 Mr. Edwardei 23, Subitance of Proclamation . . , . 234 179 »f »i • • • • as, Text of Proclamation 234 180 Colonial Office . . . . 26, Calls attention to Proclamation. To make repre- lenlation . . sas 181 To Colonial Office ao, Answers above. Will delay action pending receipt of Act for protection of salmon in Alaska 336 182 Mr. Edwardei .. ., 15, On proposed sale of ships. Canadian Government think any interference useless (see No. 176) .. 236 183 fi *■ •• •• 18, Copy of Act for protection of the salmon fisheries of Alaska 237 184 To Colonial Office .^pr. 4, Copy of No. 182, for observations 238 185 Mr, Edwardei .. .. Mar. 85, See No. 17C. Sends extracts frou the published correspondence dealing with the historical ques- tion 238 186 It If •• •• 23, President's Proclamation. Hemarks on bearing of . . . . . . . . . . 242 187 It 11 •• 25, Salmon Fisheries Act (see No, 183). Report on its course through the two Houses in Congress . . 343 188 Colonial Office .. .*pr. 10, President's Proc'.ariiation. Remarks on term "dominion of the United States in the waters of the Behrinir Sea " 251 I8& 11 II •• •• 10, Acknowledges Xo. 184. No remarks. What is position of " W. P. Savward " appeal t 251 100 To Colonial Office.. 111 Copies of Nos. 179, 186, and 187. Remarks on the meaning of the Act and Proclamation 251 191 To Sir J. Pauncefote . , 13, " W. P. Sayward." What is position of case ? .. 2A2 1P2 Mr. Edwardes .. 2i Remarks on rejected Dill of Mr. Dunn for amend- ing section 1 963 of the Revised Statutes Ki 193 To Colonial Office. . 18, Answers No. 1S8. .^re awaiting Reports from Sir J, Pauncefote 233 194 II II • • • • 16i How long before 1886 were Canadian vessels in habit of sealing in Behrin^' Sea ? 254 193 Colonial Office .. .. 20, Answers No. 190. Would be glad if our meaning could be officially recorded . . 254 196 >• II . • • . 29i Answers No. 194. Has asked Canada .. ■J&St 197 Sir J. Pauncefote .. ,. 26, " W. P. Sayward." Answer* No. 191 . . 255 1<J8 Colonial Office May 14, Extract from .'Vnnual Report of Canadian Depart- ment of Fisheries lor IS8S . 235 199 Sir J. Pauncefote . . 24, United States' rcvenue-cruizcis '' Rush " and " Bear" ordered to Behring Sea 207 •;oo Consul General ISouker June 28, Professor Rayner's letter on the whole question , . 238 201 Colonial Office July 27, Minute of Canadian Privy Council, with full Report by Minister of Marine and Fisheries, in which case is argued and claims presented . . 2S2 202 11 II • • • • Aug. 3, Alleged seizure of '• Black Diamond " in liehriiig Sea . , . . . . . . , , 273 203 To Colonial Office . 3i Answers above. Should have official details also as to " Triumph "., ,. ,. ,, 274 204 Colonial Office 8, Telegram from Cau.ida. Reports appear correct . . 274 205 M II • • 9, Refers to No. 194. Full Report by .Minister of Marine and Fisheries 275 206 M l« ■ > ■ • ''■ " Black Diamond " and " Triumph." Further Report . . 289 207 >1 *} • • • H. Case of the American sealer " San Diego " as lietr- ing on above cases 290 208 To Colonial Office.. 17, Appeals for seizures in 1 886 sliould be pushed on . . 294 20J Mr. Edwardcs 5. On cases of " Black Diamond " ami " Trnimph," and arguments of United States in regard to seals 294 210 Coloriial Office 19. Refers to No. 208. Telegram to Canada 295 2.. II If • • 20, " Black Diamond " and " Triumph." Reports from Canadian Government . , 295 21J To Mr. Edwardvs . . 22, Alleged seizures. What truth in reports ? To request issue of instructions to prevent recur- rence .. 300 213 11 II • • • * 22 Refers to above. To remiiiH. Mr. Blaine of .Mr. Bavard's unofficial assuiances. Sir J, Paunce- fote wil discuss whole question, but Her Majesty's 1 I. 1 - . 1 ■ ' Government protest against seizures . , 310 i :~i .• ■■• i(i" .... «•-. : ( ▼in TA.BI<E OP CONTBKTS. I I No. 214 315 316 317 318 219 320 231 232 3SS 334 225 33G 327 939 239 Name. Mr. Edwardph Colonial OlGco . To Colonial Offici- Colonial Office Admiralty To Mr. Edwarded . To Colonial Office. Colonial Office Mr. Kdwarde« To Mr. Fdwardes . . 330 3S1 I Colonial Office 233 i To Colonial Office . •J33 Mr. Edwardes 234 To Mr. Kdwardei . 2.'}3 Po Colonial Office. . 336 237 238 339 ColoninI Office Mr. Edwardes 240 ., ., 24 1 To Colonial Office. . 242 I'o Sir J. Pauncef'ote ■.'43 Sir C. Lampson and Co. 344 Colonial Office 245 Sir J. f'auncofote i ' ■ 246 ! „ „ . . 247 I I'o Sir ('. Liimpson and Co. Date. Aug. 36, 1889 39, t'ept. 2, 3. 4. 9, 9. 10, 10, I'l, 13, 17, 19, Oct. 2, 3, 5, .1, 12, 14. \i, 24, 24, 24, 24S Sir C. l.aiiip!>un and Co. Nov. 2, •^, fi. f, Oct. 31, Nov. 1, §u . k* . ■> ..ii 13. 14. Subject. Page Summary of interview, and copiei of correi.|)ondeace with Mr. Blaine on above instructions . . . 300 " Black Diamond " and " Triumph." Further from Canada. Whataniwer? .. .. 3U3 Copy of telegram to Canada aummarizing informa- tion in No. 214 .. . .. ..304 Answers No, 315. Say question is being con- sidered. \\'« have, so far, no authentic details . . 305 Refers to No. 215. Furt'".er details from Canada . . 305 " lilack Diamond " and " Triumph." Statements . by owners . . . . . . . . 307 Approves No. 314 .. .. ., 90S To ask (/'anada to telegraph at once any further stoppages . . . . . . 309 Affidavits of maatert of '* Black Diamond " and "Triumph" .. .. .. ..300 Instructions sent iu sense of No. 321 .. ..312 Recent seizures. Telegram from Cinada. Affi- davits being fbrwarded .. .. ..312 Refers to No. 217. Copy <.f telegram sent to Canada .. .. .. .. ..313 Copy of private letter to Mr. Blaine asking for answer to request for assurances of non-inter- ference .. .. .. .. ..313 Refers to above. Mr. Blaine's answer . . 314 Copy of No. 222. To protest against seizures as wholly unjusti6ed by intemalionul law. Refers to Mr. Biiyard's unofficial assurances . . ,. 315 Refers to " close lime " negotiations of 1 886 and 1887. Arc ready to discnss an agreement for the purpose , . . . . 315 Approves No. 336 .. 316 Letter from Mr. Clarke iuclosing Report of a meet- ing at Victori.i lo protest agai'ist seiaures. Case of'Jiianita" .. .. 316 Refers to No. 323. Copies of Nos. 238 and 3?9 . . 333 Interview with Mr. Blaine on the subject of Mr. Bayard's unoilicial assurances reg.irdiiig seizures 323 Answers above. liliplnins what iissnr.inces were referred lo in No. 228 . . . . . . 323 Acknowledges No. 231. Suggests replying to ('fleet that whole (|uestion is under discussion . . 333 Forwards from Canadian Government duplicate of Report in No. 231 .. .. ..323 Seizures of "Minnie." ".luanita," " P.ithfinder,' and " Lily." Reports from Canadian Govern nienl, with co|)ies of affidavits of masters . 334 See No. 210. Report by Canadian Minister of Marine and Fisheries on question of appeals ! against 1886 seizures .. . 330 Question of appeals. Sends .Memorandum by Mr. Calderon Carlisle on the case of the United States' vessel " Sylvia Handy." which illustrates | point .. .. .. ..j 336 Refers to No. 234, and sends copy of letter to I .Mr. Bluine iu regard to it . . . . .. ' 337 Acknowledges Nos. 336, 337, and 338. Propose I to await Sir .1. Pauncefnte's Reports . . , . 338 Approves letter in No. 240 . . . . . . I 338 Urges importance of settling the question, in inte- ! rests of seal preservation, before it is too late . . 338 The High Commissioner for Canada in London is to discuss question with Her Majesty's Govern- ment .. .. . .. .339 Copies of letters in newspapers by Mr. Felton and Mr. R. Rayner arguing the question from diffe- rent paints . . . . 34U Preliminary conversation with .Mr. Blaine. He docf|iiot assert mare clausum doctrine, iiiiil ton- eiirs in resuming the tripartite iiegoliation regaril- ing a " close season " . . , . 350 .Acknowledges No. 24.'J. Will be glail of any statistics and iuforniatii)ii . . . . . . 353 .Answers above. Collecting inlurmation. I'heir letters may be published .. ., ,. 3.'<2 i ! TABLE OP CONTENTS. IX No. nee , , 300 her , , 303 ma- 304 Oll- 1 .. 305 a.. 305 enti 307 ■ « 308 ther , , 309 and ^, 309 , . 312 Affi- It to I g for inter- res as Ipfers 312 313 313 314 "R 315 6 and I nt for 313 , 316 meet- Case I .. 316 299 . . I 322 f Mr. eizuret I 322 wore I ..j 322 to . . 323 cate of I . 323 iniler," overn- j 324 ter of I pueals 330 '" '')' United 1 sirateR ' 336 icr to ] 337 ropnse 1 338 338 n inte- 1 ,te . . I 338 don is I overn- | 339 on and diffe- hV III cull- t..j{,u-d. I \)( anv riieir 34U 350 352 ■6S>2 249 250 251 252 253 S54 255 256 257 258 259 26U 261 262 263 264 £65 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 973 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 283 Name. Colonial Office Date. y.oM. 30, 1889 International Arbitration and j Dec. Peace Association . To Sir J. Paiincefote . | I Sir J. Pauncefote , , Colonial Office To International Arbitration and Pvurc Association Colonial Office .. .. To Colonial Office.. To Sir J. Pauncefote To Colonial Office, . . . Sir J. Pauncefote .. .. i (Telegraphic) I To Sir J. Pauncefote . . Sir J. Pauncefote .. , i (Telegraphic) Colonial Oihce ,. Sir J. Pauncefote , . M 1» To Sir J. Pauncefote Sir J. Pauncefote Colonial Office To Sir J. Pauncefote To Colonial Office. . Colonial Office .. Sir J. Pauncefote .. To Colonial Office. . . { Jan. Feb. 6, 7, 12. 10, 11, 12, 1?, 14, 16, 16, 17, 17, 17. 18. 18, 13, 26, 26. £6, 10, 18. 9, 23, 28, SO, 31, 1, 6, 6, 7, 8, 10, 1690 Subject. Page [1281 Hefers to No. 20^. Report of Committee of Pri»v Council of Canada aiguing against iilea that a close teason is of pressing rcressily, ond inclosing statements of prnciical hunters, with history of Canadian sralinit iutt-rests .. Hope a speedy settlement will be arrived at .. Sends certain proposals as bases of possible negotia- tion, for opini^in .. .. .. Mr. DInine's views on above proposals. They do not furnish a possible basis .. .. Telegram from Canada giving views of Govemnieiit as to conditions of negotiation . . . . Acknowledges Nr. 250. Matter receiving earnest considenition Refers to No. 237. Despatches from Canada for-^ warding claims of "Juanita" and " Pathfinder i in detail . . . . ■ . • • Telegram to Canada veeapitiilating- points in No. 252.. Canadian reply to above. General concurrence, to avoid delay General remarks on above. The negotiations might now commence, the wishes of Canada being con- sulted Acknowledges No. 255. The claims therein will be considered with others Answers No. 252. Gives substance of Canadian reply in No. 957 . . . . . . . • Substance of No. 258. To make a formal com- munication to United States' Government in its sense .. , . .. . . I cpy of above Receipt uf No. 261. Reasons for wisliing to defer communication .. .. Answers above. 'Slay defer communication . I Extract from Report of Secretary of Treasury for I8i<9 on the Sen) Isliinds in Behring Sea .. Discussion with Mr. Rlaine as to compensation for seizures . . Amplifies the above .. ,. .. Advertisement by Secretary of the Treasury for tenders for fur-seal contract for twenty-one vears "Triumph," " 1 ily," " Black Diamond," Detailed chiiins for losses .. ., ,. .. "Ariel.'' Claim for compensation, with declara- tions .. ,. ,. .. ,, New fiit-seal conlir.ct (see No- 268). Resolution by Senator Pluiiili . . . . . Answer of the United States' Government to pro- test made on liili October against the seizures of Hriiisb vessels. Detailed arguments Atknowleiiges above. 1-orinal reply will be sent. Sends lernis for nepotiation. \\<iuld Mr. IBlaine be likely to accept tlieni as basis ? Answeis al)ove. Thinks he should have more information about amount of compensation claimed before negotiating fur close season .. " Kate." Sends claims for compensation Answers No. 374. Claims amount to about 500,000 dollars, subject to revision Claims reused at Colonial Ollice, and should not exceed 400,L00 dollars Ask for observationh on No. 272 Clainis for compensation. TImt of the "Minnie'' will have to be added .. Discussion with .Mr. (Maine on amount of compen- sation claims, and question of arbitration. His )iroposals . . . . . . . . .May tripartite negotiation for close time begin, leaving claims arbitraiiou in suspense ? Copy of No. 280. Propose to answer No. 281 in affirmative ,. .. .. ., .•562 3 (14 r.G5 £65 SC6 S67 3C8 877 378 378 379 379 380 3eo 381 3>>l 381 382 3ti2 383 383 802 396 396 S99 .399 400 402 102 403 403 4f.3 404 404 TABLB OF CONTENTS. No. Nniiie. a 83 2H6 2f7 288 289 290 2»l 292 2<i3 a94 295 296 297 To Sir J. I'auiicelote . . Colonial OIKce . , . . Sir J. Paiincpfbte . . . . Lord Knutsford to Lord Staiili'y ( I'elegraphic) To Sir J. Pauiicefote Sir J. Pauncefote . . I* •» •• To Sir .1. Paiinrerote To Sir R. Morier , . Sir H. Moriur .. Colonial Olfice . . Sir J. Pauncefote . , To Colonial Office.. 298 Colonial Office 299 ! To Sir J. Pauncefote 300 Sir J. Pauncefote 301 Date. 302 303 304 306 307 30N 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 32U 321 3S2 To Sir J. Pauncefote Colonial Office To Sir J. Pauncefote Sir J. Pauncefote . . To Sir J. Pauncefote Colonial Olfice .. To Colonial .'Office. . Sir J. Pauncefote , . To Sir J. Pauncefote (Telegraphic) Colonial Office Sir J. Pauncefote , . Colonial Office Sir J. Pauncefote (• » Feb. 10, 1890 11, II. 12, 12, 13, 13, 13, H, 14, 23, 2-J, 2-2, 24, 27, 28, H, 20, .Mar. 8, 14, 15, I, (Telegraphic) •», 7, 18, 19, 19, 20, 26, 21. 21, Apr. 3, 9, Mar. 31, Apr. 14, 19, 11, 15, 26, SUUJECT. Answers No. 2RI in nlliruiative Uemnrks by Canailiun (iovernmcnt on call for tenders alluiicd to in No. 268 . . . . Refers to above. Mr. Blaine contents .. Substance -if No. 285 All (iroposuU from United States to bo received ad rrfertudiim To arrange with (>overnor-(ieneral dale when Canadian Representative sliould be in Washing- ton to uss'i>t . . . . . . Ai to RuKsian participation .. •• .. Refers to No. 2S9. Ilus written to Canada Refers to No. 271. Copy of No. 284 . . To invite lluasianparili'ipatioil.. Russian Minister will take part '• Minnie " — claim for conipcnialion, thus completing the list for I8S9 .. first informal meetinn-. Submits area proposed by Mr. ISlaine and M. Strove .. Copy of above, for opinion Remarks on No. 2'i6. Sir J. Pauncefote should corfer with Mr. Topper Answers No. 2!)6. ConsuU Mr. Tupper . Memurundiini by Mr. Ulaine of his views on arbi- traiion question .. .. Russian (invernment said to have renewed the Alaska Commercial Company's lease of Russian Seal Islands in Heliring Sea .. .Approves language in No. 280. . .. ., Remarks on Nos. 280 and 300, Important to know Canadian views . . Refers to Nos. 280 and 286. Copy of No. 303 . . I'nritier informal conversation with Mr. Blaine and .Mr. Tupper I'lir-seal Islands said to have been leased to American Commercial Company at large increase . . Atknowledges receipt of No. 288 Ne)!oi,dtions come to deadlock owing to difference of rpiniun about a close season . . . . . . Approves proceedings reported in No. 305 Forwards schedule of claims for compensation received from Canada . . . . Copv of No. 308. Propose to wait . . . Usual Proclamation as to Behring Sea fisheries about to issue .• .. Refers to No. 305, Report of first formal meeting. Has prepared a draft scheme which Mr. Tupper has taken to Canada for considera- tion Artie! from " Tribune," of Naw York, headed " RiKhls in Behring Sea " .. Approves principle of draft Convention referred lu in No. ;il3 .. .. .. Answers No. 311. Agree to wait .. .. Newspaper extract relative to detention of the " Pathfinder " at Portland on charge connected wiili her last year's arrest. Her release by order of Treasury . . . . 'I'elegram from Canada giving first impressions of draft Convention .. Canada occepts draft with snggestcd modifications . . Result of interview with .Mr. luppcr on his return from Canada, vjubmits fresli draft Correspondence relating to the fisheries as received from Mr. Blaine, including evidence of United States' experts and counter-evidence furnished by Mr. Tupper .. •• •• • . Has received Canadian amendmv .its to draft Convention, and proposes submitting it to Cou- ferenoe •• .. •• •• •• Page 405 405 407 ^07 407 407 408 408 408 408 409 409 412 412 412 413 413 414 414 415 415 415 416 416 417 417 417 418 419 419 420 421 421 421 422 422 423 423 453 '! I TABIiS OF CONTENTS. I'age 405 ■105 407 •107 .. 407 407 408 408 408 408 40!) 409 413 412 412 413 413 414 414 415 415 415 418 416 417 417 417 418 419 419 420 421 421 421 422 422 423 423 453 No. 393 324 33S 326 827 328 329 330 331 332 383 334 335 336 337 388 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 Name. Sir J. Ptuneefote . . (Telegraphic) To Colonial Office. . Sir J. Paunceloto . . Colonial Office •. .. To Sir J. Fauncefnte . . (Telegraphic) Sir J. Pauncefote (Telegraphic) To Sir J. Paunrefote (Telegraphic) *i If ». » >• • • Sir J. Pauncefote . . . (Telegraphic) Date. (Telegraphic) » If (Telegraphic) To Sir J. Pauncefote ., Sir J. Pauncefote .. .. (Telegraphic) Extract from " Morning I'ort " To Sir J. Paui.cefote (Telegraphic) Sir J. Pauncefote , . (Telegraphic) To Sir J. Pauncefote . . Sir J. Pauncefote .. .. (Telegraphic) To Sir J. Pauncefote (Telegraphic) Sir J. Pauncefote . . . . To Sir J. Pauncefote (Telegraphic) Sir J. Pauncefotu (Tel»(rraphic) Apr. 30, 1R90 33, May 5. Apr. 99, May 8, 8, 8, 9, 9. IP. 11, 11. 14, 22. 29, 23, 93, 2», 24, 29, 30, 31, 23, 23. 23, June 3, T, (Telegrtphic) 7, Subject. ri28] Ha* lent in draft Convention .. ., Refers to No. 304. Views of Canada as to proce- dure in regard to arbitration and assessment of damages .. .. .. Copy ot above, for remarks .. .. .. Copy of letter to Mr KUine rending in draft Con- vention as approved by Canadian Quvernment. Sends copy of it ... Answrrs No. 325. Criticisms on No, 324 ., What i<oe« Mr. Blaine say to draft tent home in No. 326? Answer* above. Mr. Blaine maintains silence. May he say the draft is approved by Her Ma- jesty's (iovernment ? Answers aiove in affirmative .. .. Answers No. .124. Copy of No. 327, To consult Mr. Tiipper in first place .. ,. .. Approves note in No, 32b ,. .. Kefer* to No. 329. Mr. Blaine does not accept draft in present form, but thinks it offers a D&9IH •• •■ •• •• c« An»wers No. 331. Has prepared draft Arbitration Agreement, which Mr. Topper will take to Canada for approval .. .. .. Mr. 'I'upper not gone. Draft sent by post .. Answers No. 272. States views of Her Majesty's Goternment in reply to United States' arguments in support of seizures , . . , , . British connier-proposals rejected. Orders given to reveiiue-cruisrr to dismantle Brltinh sealers. Interview with Mr. lilaine to remonstrate. His reply Ueuter's telegram annonncing orders given to dis- mantle sealers . . . . . Answers No. 337, To warn Mr. BInine that formal protest is being prepared against any interference with Kriiish vessels .. .. Answers above. His sent in note .. ,. Refers to No. 336, Explaius why the answer was delayed. In consequence of news in No. 337, it should now be pn sented, Hopes United States' Government will take such action as may obvialo neces^ity for a formal protest R-Ceis to No. 337. Regret with which Her Majesty's Goven.ment has learnt news. Sends draft of tnrmal protest to be sent in if unfortu- nately necessary , . . . . , Negotiulions for close sra^nn. Long note has come in from United Stales* Government reviewing tlieir history. It conchit'es with the hope that British vessels will be prevented 1,^ Her Majesty's (iovernment from entering Behring .Sea Answers above. The proposal to prevent British vecsels cannot be accepted . . Refers to No. 347. Newspaper extracts on subject of instructions Amplilies information given in No, .337, and details conversation with Mr. Blaine .. .. Note to Mr. Blaine founded on No. 3-59 . , British sealers have already started, so cannot now be stopped ( ste No. 344) Gives substance of a long note elicited hv statement (•ec No. 344^ that Her Majexty's Oovernment cannot stop sealers, in which President s regret is expressed at action of Her .Majesty'^ Govern- ment, Has declined to continue correspondence pending instructions .. .. Proposed interview with Mr. Blaine put off ., P«f 458 454 454 458 459 480 460 460 460 461 461 461 461 469 465 466 466 466 466 467 468 469 469 472 472 473 473 474 xii TABLE OF CONTENTS. No. S&l Namt' To Sir J. Paiiiirpfotv 352 I Sir J. Pttiiiicet'ote .. 353 ' 354 357 8«8 360 361 (Tcl<'(,'iapliic) ('rdegrapliic) •"■ir if. raiuiccfote (Tele (Telegraphic) (Telcuraphic) Sir J. i'aiincefoti' . nale. To Sir J. I'auiicetnte (Telegraphic) (Telegraphic) Sir J. Paunccfotc . . 362 j Colonial Odice 363 Sir J. Pauncet'otc 364 I Colonial Office ;i65 t Admiralty 366 I'o Sir J. Pauncerotc 367 308 i Sir .1. Panncefote . . I (Telegraphic) 36a ' To Sir J. Pailncefotc 370 I Sir .1. Pauiitofote .. 372 Colonial Office ,. 373 ! To Sir J. Pauntefotc June 7, 18.00 May 2!), 30, June ]U, 10, 11, U, 1. 12, »2, 3, 13, 6, 17. 19, (Telegraphic) ( Telegraphic) 374 Sir J. Panncefoto ., ,, 20, 20, 21, 21, 10. 25. 25, 26, July 1, Answers No. ;)4'.l. ICxpIaiiis piiAilion of llcr .\rijesly's (i.)veininent in regnnl In sealer», ami roailine-s to iienoliite for elii<^ seasun lielris to .\(). n47. Air. Ithiiin' acknowleiigof. notice of forii. .1 prole-.! Itd'ers to No. '■■>',]. Seiiil.^ cupy of note in winch (Ir^ilt Ciiiivenlion is rejecied liy Itnssia ami llie 1 I.'nileil Slates . ' . . ' ,. j Inlervii'w with .Mr. lllaiin-, wlio ileclincs to give j tbrni.il assniancu as lo non-inlerfi reiice. Proposes | to s' ii'l in pi'oli'st on I-ltli inslnni .At previous interview aave .Mr. IJlalno explanations contained In No, :''>[ Coneipiniilence with Mr. lilaine iiliont stopp:n;e of sealer* liy ( ler .\|".jesty's (ioverninent. .Mr. lilaine sie.'!;e.~is a I'rocliination requesting them to abstain f<pr |n'i»ent season . . An.-Hers No. yj4. .May present pr.itest . ,, Hefers to No. S.OU. W{):il(l Her \/ajestv's ("overn- ii:eni ri'fer lo arliih-ation (|ne--lion of le^^al rif;ht of United .Slates' (Joveiiiment to exclude Prillsh sellers? If so. would tliey is»ne I'roelamalion on eenililiiins ns lo enmpensution lor nast and pro- sp"rtive damages i Answers above. Serious difficnliies ; but if Procla- mation were isHied, would United States' (lovern- nient a>;.'ee to speellieii conditions 'r .. Hives rmij;h form in which Proclamation mi},'ht run, if issued Tlie I'liiteii Stale.- ■ (lovornnnnl having; suL'jrosted that a I'roclamation exeludinj sealers tor this season slunild he issneil, he has rriilleil that it is impossible. Copies ot eorresiKimlence Claim from owners of " Pathtinder" for lier deten- I'on ill .\ea;;li Hay in .March last (si e No. 317) Itefers to Nos. ;!4!l and .'Uil. Corresnoudenee with .Mr. lilaine on subject ol proposed exclusion of sealers . . , , Kxtraoi from .Annual Heport for 18S9 of Canadian Jlinisler of .Marine and Fisheries Letters from Captain llulton,of Her Majesty's ship "Aniphioi>,"p:ivinjr names of British sealers, their owners, \o., and their probable movements Refers h> No. 3.')3. lixplaiiis, by copies of corre- spondence. &e., position of Her .Majesty's Govern- ment ill ner.inl to the nesrotiations of the spring of 18!s,s, and corrects iiiipressio!^"! received by Air, lilaine as to any formal engaj^ement having then been (jiven .•Vnproves note ill Xo. 36J Newspaper lelesrams reportiiiij tl-.al United States' Kevenne crnizers have not vet lc(t for Ueliring Sea .Appioves note in No. 363. Hemarks on an obser- vation bv Mr. Pliflps ill li!88 as to elcclioneerin}; dillieulties in way of then conclnding negotiatioi.s Uelers to No 3ii5. Copy of Memnrandiini given to .Mr. lilaine explaining inability of Her Majesty's (iovi'rnnent lo slop sealers liefers lo No. y.')9. .May he send in official note formnlating eonditious in lejtard to issue of a Proelainiitioii ? Minute by ("anadinn Privy Council recommcndins that an assurance be squ^ht that sealers will not lie interfered with . . ., Entirely concurs in .proposal in No. 371 . Copy of note from Mr. lilaine in answer to argu- ments in No. 3:it), in which he dwells at length on undisputed rights of Russia, and claims them for the United .States, mid again asks by what right and on what groniids the present action of Her Majesty's Uoverimieut is defended ? .. I'agu 474 •174 473 47S 479 479 480 480 480 481 481 482 484 486 48S 491 493 493 493 494 494 49j 496 497 TABLE OF CONTKNTS. xtti 1 l>giga llcr and S_ *. 474 irrps lioli 474 dm • • 475 rive osus 47S ions .. of 479 aiiie tUlll 473 •• 480 ^rn- jzlit. tlsll nil >r(t- cla- •480 'in- .• 480 run, 481 itC'fl I his t IS 481 pn- 7) 48? ntli of 484 inn hip 486 leir 488 rre- 111- rof Wr. len , . 491 493 es' 493 493 494 494 49j 496 No. Natno. Dale. Sdbj.-.ct. Page 37.'; Sir J. Pauncot'oto .. July ;), 18S0 Mr. lllaine will continiu- npgotiationn iit IJ.ir Har- (Telegraphic) bonr .. .. ., 506 376 » 11 t • • • June 18, HeferB to No. 357. Copy of protest sent in on 14th, am', of note covering it 506 377 »i II •• • • 27, SiMuls artirle from " Now York Herald " piirportiiii: to liive niithoritatire version of the story of the ' negotiations .. .. .. " ..i 508 !)7H }i II • • • • 27i Copy oV note to Mr. Blaine founded on authoritv given in No. 373 . . . . . . ,' . 510 379 *i II • • ■• (Tclcprapliic) July 9i Itesoliition adopted in IIouso of llcpresentatives for publishing correspondence .. ., ., 611 380 To Sir J. I'ainicefotu .. 10, Approves note in No. 37S ., .. ,. 511 381 ;, II • • 10, Approves note in No. 376 .. .. .. ; 512 38!i II II •• Aug. 2, Ael;iu.\vledge8 No. 374. Replies at lengtli to the argiiinents deduced from alleged liussian righu of juri^(liclioll over Behring Sen, Quotes American contentions dating from 1832, opinions of puhll- eisls as lo limits of maritime jurisdiction, and diplomatic documents of 1822, 1823. and 1824. Her Majesty's Government are ready, if neces- sary, to refer lo arbitration (|ue9tion'of legality of recent captures, witli the issues that dcptnd 1 "PO" II .. -n .. .. ..1 519 497 i:: Ciurespondencc respocliiij? the lieliring Sea Seal Tisli* ries : 1880-90. No. 1. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received September 1.) gjj. Downing Street, September 1, 1886. I AM directed by the Secretary of State for tlie Colonies to transmit to you, to be laid before tiie Earl of Iddesleigh, a copy of a letter from the Admiralty, with its inclo^ure, respectin!^ the alleged seizure of thre^' Britislj Columbian seal scliooners by tbo Un.ced States' Revenue cruizer "Corwin." I am to suggest, for the consideration of Lord Iddesleigh, that the matter should be brought before the United States' Government, with the view of obtaining further information on tlic subject. I am, &c. (Signed) R. H. MEADE. Inclosure 1 in No. 1. Admiralty to Colonial Office. Sir, Admiralty, August 2(3, 1886. I AM commanded by my Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty to transmit herewith, for the perusal of the Secretary of State, a telegram wiiich has been received from the Commander-in-chief on the Pacific Station, dated at Victoria, 24th instant, respecting the seizure of three Britisii Columbian seal schooners by the United States' Revenue cruizer " Corwin." I am, &c. (Signed) R. D. AWDRY. Liclosure 2 in No. 1. ^Rear-Admiral Sir M. Culme- Seymour to Admiralty. (Telegraphic.) Victoria, August 24, 1886. THREE British Columbian seal schooners seized [byj United States' Revenue cruizer "Corwin," Behring's Straits, seaward 70 miles from off the land [1 in the execution ot] killing female seals, and using fire-arms to do it, which thty '"'ve done for three years without interference, although in company with " Corwin." No. 2. The Earl of Iddesleigh to Sir L. West. Sir, ^ Foreign Office, September 9, 1S86. I TRANSMIT to you herewith a copy of a letter from the Colonial Office, and of its inclosure, respecting the alleged seizure of three British Columbian seal schooners by the United States' Revenue cruizer " Corwin ; "• and I have to instruct you to address a [128] • Ns. 1, B communication to the United States' Government askio'j; to be fuinished with any particulais whieh they may possess relative to tiiis occurrence. I am, &c. (Signed) llJDKSLKIfai. No. ;}. Colonial Office to Vnrciijn Ojfivc. — {Rvvvirvil Hoptrinhir 27.) Sir, Doiniiiuj Slrcrt, .Si-pli'mhrr 2!). 188(!. WI'i'FI relercncc to tiie capture of Canadian sealiiig schooners in IVclninn's Soa by tiic United States' Itcvcnuc cruizer " Corwin," 1 am diri'cted i)y -Mr. Secretary Staiihopu to transmit to you, to be laid before tiic Karl of Iddesleii;!), a teli\i,'rain lioin the Officer administering; the Government of tiie Dominion, togctiier with a copy of a letter from the Admiralty, with its inclosurcs, on the subject. 1 am to state that, in Mr. Stanhope's opinion, the case is one in whieii a protest should be made to the United States' Government, accompanied by a demand for compensation, and that Sir L. West might be instructed to make such protest and demand, if, u| on inquiry, he ascertains tliat the United States' Government maintain the pretension raised by the seizure of these vessels on the high seas. I am, &-C. (Signed) JOHN RRAMSTON. Inclosure 1 in No. ;5. Administrator Lord A, E. liim.sell to ^fr. Stanhope. (Telegraphic.) Sepinnlier 22, 1H8G. THE Canadian schooners "'J'hornton," " Onward " and " Carolina" were seized on tiie 1st August in Beiiring's Sea by the United .'^tales' cutter "Corwin." The captain and mate of the "Thornton" were tried in the District Court of the United States at Sitka on the SOtii August. It was attempted to show that the " Thornton " was seized for killing seal about 70 miles south-south-east of St. George's Island, within that portion of IJehring's Sea ceded by Russia to the United States. The Judge, in charging the jury, cpioted Article I of the Treaty ol' the HOth March, 18G7, between the United States and Russia, and affirmed that all waters within the boundary set forth in tlie Treaty to the western end of the Aleutian Archipelago and Islands were to be deemed American, and that the ])enaltics of the Law against the killing of fur-hearing animals were to attach to its violation within the limits in (juestioii. The jury were told, if they believed the evidence as to the killing of any fur-hearing animals by the accused on the Alaskan coast or in Behring's Sea, east of the 19;)rd degree of west longitude, to find them guilty. The prisoners were found guilty. The master of the " Thornton " was fined ."iOO dollars and sentenced to imprisonment for thirty days. The mate was fined .'500 dollars and sentenced to thirty days' im|)risonment. The officers of the other two vessels were also tried, and similar penalties imposed upon them. The Government of Canada protests against the claim of the United States to the sole sovereignty over Behring's Sea, 700 miles east of the westerly boundary of Alaska, defined by the above-mentioned Article I of the Treaty of the 3()tli March, 1807, as contrary to the admitted principles of international law, and also in o|)position to the United States' contention concerning common waters on the coast of the Atlantic. It j)rote8ts also against the unwarranted and arbitrary interference of the authorities of the United States with the peaceable and lawful occupation on the high seas of Canadian citizens, as well as against the forfeiture of their property and the indignity of imprisonment which have been imposed upon them. The foregoing facts have also been communicated to Sir Lionel West. ,.'.' .,,1 . ,;. . v., .. :» ., Inclosure 2 in No. 3. .,^.'.,'.1 (fi •<■!»• rt« W ri«<>^ t • Admiraltif to Colonial Office. ' • f»«n Sir, ■ • ■ AilMiraUi). i^teptomher 20, IBW. I AM <'()iniiinmlc(l l)y my Lord* Commissioners of tliu Admiralty to transmit to you, ill ni-i!;innl, for tlif jiernsnl of the Secretary of State for the Colonies, a letter from the Commiinder-in-eliief on the I'.ieiHc Stiition, duted the •i.'jth August, respecting the seizure of three scaliii<; schooners by the United Stiues' Revenue criiizer '"Corwm," on the |»lea of their kiliiiii;' teniale seiils, I mil til ie(|U(st that these i)a|)cis may he sent to the Foieij^n OfHce, to he returned to this Department wlien doiu" with. (Signed) ' ' ' EVAN .MACGRKGOK. Inclosure .'J in No. •'$. Ri'iir- Admiral Hir ^[. L'ulme-Sfymoiir tn Ailniiralti/. s Sir. " Trlui.iiih," at Es,ii,inialt, AikjusI 25, ISSO. IN eonliniintion of niv teleijrain of tiie 2:$r(l instant, I have tlie honour to inform you of tlic ])nitieulars, as liir iis I can at present asccrtiiin then), of tiie seizure of the three sealing .schooners by the United States' Revenue cruizer " Corwin," a small sercvv steamer. The sehoonevs are : — "Thornton." auxiiiiiry screw, 22 tons. Captain J. D. Warren, owner. . i ■ . -..;, " Carolina." sailing, .S2 tons, William .Munsie, owner. i » " Onward," sailin-r. .'<.') tons, W. Spring, owner. AH belonginir to Victoria, IJritish Columbia. 'J'he schooner which was seized nearest to land was ."iO miles from St. George Islniui, the other two rather further off. All three were towed by the "Corwin"' to Ounalaska, the ca|)tain and one man rL-tained on hoani, and the remainder of the crew sent to San Francisco by a steamer going there, when they were set free, anti sent on here at the expense of the owners, arriving on the night of tlie 22nd instant. Their arrival at Sun Fran-isco was the first we heard of the schooners being sei:'.cd. Nothing lias been disturbed on board the schooners, except that the arms and ammunition have been seized, and sufficient jirovision for the crew on their passage to San Francisco taken. 2. There are ten other sealins: schooners from Victoria in the IJehring's Sea. The season is (roni about the ht July to the end of Au;;ust. If not seized, they arc probably on tiieir way here, and may be expected to arr clie middle of September. The (['jcstion of wliether th'-y should be protected or not docs not, therefore, at present arise. Last year there were two schooners from here in the Behring's Sea, and 1 am assured the " Corwin " spoke them four or live times without interfering. In 18?4 only one schooner was there. The success of these has caused thirteen to be fitted out tiiis season. 3, I inclose copies of the following as bearing on the subject: — ...» — (I.) Letter from captain of "■ Thornton " to owner. ■ •. : :.* ■ (2.) Letter from captain of "Carolina" to owner. (3.) Letter from -Mr. Houtwell, Secretary United States' Treasury. , < -i , ■! (4.) A warning published in San Francisco papers and copied into British Columbian papers. (5.) Letter aud telegrams between Mr, Lubbe and Mr. Crow-Baker, M.P. for Victoria. ((3.) A letter from the .\merican newspajicr " Oregonian."* a ,i . ? -i I had hoped to have inclosed a copy of the lease from the United Slates to the Alaska Conuiurcial Company, and a copy of the depositions of the crews on arrival at Victoria, but the only copy cf the lease in Victoria, as also the depositions, have been taken away by the Honourable G. E. Foster, Canadian Minister of Marine and Fisheries, wiio was hero on tiic l.'3rd, and left yesterday morninu'. I have telegraphed to him lor copies, and will forward them as soon as received. . ■ • Not piiiitcil. [128] B 2 4. I would call nttention to the Treaty concerning tlic ccaNJon of (ho RtiftHian possessions in North Aincriin to the United States, concluded 30tli Minch, I8t»7, as aUo to the Convention hctween Oreiit Hritain and Russia, si^'ned Kith (liHtJi) Fehrunry, 1825, anil heg to make the following «)bservations ; — An Ainericnn Company, called the "Alaska (.'onunercial Conipuny," have a lease from the United States, dated 1H70, of the Islands of St. I'liul and St. (iieor,a;e for twenty years, with the rii;ht to kill 100,()()() seals annually on the islands and "waters adjaeent." A United Stales' officer is stationed on these islands to see the terms of the lease properly carried out, and the "Coruin" is also there for this pin'p«)se. Hy the terms of the lease, fire-arms are not (o he used to kill the seals, nor may tt-male seals or seals under one year old be killed. C. It would ajjpear hy Inelosure No. 4* that tiie United States claim the whole of the Bchring's Sea, bounded on the south by the Aleutian Islands, and, as laid down in the Treaty of 1807, as American territory. It would seem impossible to sustain this, for it would appear to be the "high scu," and not Russia's to cede, and this line mentioned in the Treaty only meant to include the islands within it, and not the sea. I beg to draw special attention to the letter from Mr. Houtwell in 1872 (Inelosure No. 3).t Mr. Houtwell was then the United States' Secretary to the Treasury, and he distinctly states his Government could not interfere beyond a marine league from the shore. Mr. Houtwell was, I am told, giratly irrstrumental in |)rocuring the lease of St. Paul and St. George for the Alaska Conrmercial Company, and was therefore interested in excluding sealing vessels from the Hehring's Sea. (i. I may mr'ion that female seals cannot bo distinguished from males when killed asleep on the water at sea; the seals killed by the Alaska Commercial Comijany are all clubbed on land, when the diflerence of sex can be easily seep. ; but that does not really affect the (jucstion as I view il, which is simply whether the Hehring's Sea is (he "high sea," or not. If, as I take it, llehring's Sea is the "higli sea," I presume no vessel fishing there eair be- legally interlered with. 7. The " San IJiego" refcrivd to in Inclosurcs 1 and 2} is an American schooner, and was taken and confiscated, 1 am informed, for landing and killitrg 500 seals on land, contrary to United States' law. 8, Inelosure r),§ iVom a gentleman in Victoria interested in sealing, and the telegraphic answers, show that the owners of the schooners sent them up with their eyes open, and were aware they ran a risk of being seized. y. Inelosure (i^[ is a letter in an American newspaper', the " Oregonian," ])ublishcd at Portland, Oregon, and shows the view taken by many Americans on the subject. I have, &c. (Signed) M. CULME-SKVMOUR. P.S. Port Moody, Awjust 'j.!, I88C. — The depositions alluded to having just arrived, I inclose them. M. C-S. Inelosure 4 iri No. 3. Captiiin II. Guttcnnann [?] to Captain J. D. Warren. Sir-, Schooner " Tlicrnlon," in Port Ilioluk, Ounalaska, August 7, 1880. AS this is my first o|)portunity to let you know that on the 1st August at (i r.M. — my position 5r>° 4')' north latitude, 108° 44' west longitude— having on board 403 seal-skins, all well on board, when United States' Revenue cutter "Corwin" placed an officer on board, took arms and ammunition, took us in tow. At 8 p.m. stopped and took schooner " Carolina " in tow. August 2 at G a.m. stopped and took schooner "Onward. At noon latitude 54 30', longitude 167° 18'. At 8*40 p.m. brought us to anchor in above-mentioned port ; took all the boats from the schooner; put a watchman on board from the cutter. August 3. At 9 A.M. an officer from the cutter came on board and took the ship's papers. August 4. An officer from the cutter returned one boat, and gave four of the crew liberty to go on shore from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., at the discretion of rae. * See Inelosure 7 in No. 3. S See Inclosiir' 8 in No. 3. f See Inelosure 6 in No. 3. II See Inelosure 9 in No. 3. t See Ineloiures 4 and 5 in No. 3. ^ See Incloiure 9 in No. 3. I Aui;ii»t 5. Notliin;; done to remark. August (5. Ditto. August 7. At 1) A.M. nn ofRccr from tlio cutter came on board ; took sonio proviiiionfl from the »cliot>ner. At -T I'.M. took ten men, iind mo f^oing to be 8cnt to Siiu Prar.cisco immediately witli steamer "San I'aule," as leaves just now. " San Dicfjo " is seized and stripped iiere. 1 lia\e put in my protest. Mv latest news I'roin tiio rest of Victoria seliooner.s is '' doin^ well." I know not more just now, and remain, youri*, &c. (Signed) H. GUriERMANN [?]. My protest is as follows : — " i, II. (jutlern)aii ['i"!, master of British nchooner ''''hornton,' do hereby declare that 1 do not know wherem I have violated the laws of the United .Stotes or other natiims in fakini? seids beyond the usual limit of ;? leagues [? miles] from shore within Mehrinf^'s Sea, and I therefore enter this my solenm protest against the action of the United States' authorities in seizing tliis tiie vessil under my command, together with the seal-skins coni|)osing cargo." (Excuse haste.) II. G. Inclosure 5 in No. .'). CapUtin J. Oijilvie to Mr, IV, Mumie. Dear Sir, Ounalasha, Auijnst G, 1880. THE United States' steamer "Corwin " boarded and took charge of the schooner in latitude ."io" 'j(l' north, longitude lOb" W.V west. They took all tl;e firi'-unns from the schooner. 1 asked why they did so. They said for killing female seals and carrying tire- arms. They towed the "Thornton" and '"Ori ard " in at the same time. 1 have got 680 seal-skins on board, "Thornton" 10 1, "Onward "700. 1 have beard nothing of the " Pathfinder" in the Behring's Sea ; she was seen ofl' Sitka coming up. It was on the 1st August, at 6 I'.M., they took charge of the schooner. The American schooner " San Diego" is in here, they arc taking all her skins and sails on shore ; .'">00 skins. Your, &c. (Signed) JAMES OGILVIE. Inclosure 6 in No. 3. Mr. Boulwell to Mr. Phelps. Sir, Treasury Department, fVashiiiglon, April 19, 1872. YOUR letter of the 25th ultimo was duly received, calling the attention of the Department to certain rumours circulating in San Francisco to the effect that expeditions are to start from Australia and the Hawaiian Islands to take fur-seals on their ann'.ial migration to the Islands of St. Paul and St. George, through the narrow pass of Unniark. You recommend, to cut olf the responsibility of evil resulting to the interest of the United States from these expeditions, that a Revenue cutter be sent to the region of Unmark Pass, by the 16th May next. A very full conversation was had with Captain Bayant upon this subject while he was at the Department, and he convinced it to be entirely impracticable to make such an expedition a paying one, inasmuch as the seals go singly or in pairs, and not in droves, and cover a large region of water in their homeward travel to these islands, and he did not seem to fear that the seals would be driven from their accustomed resorts, even were such attempts made. In addition, I do not see that the United States would have the jurisdiction or power to drive ott' parties ^oing up there for that purpose, unless they made such attempt within a marine league ol i ? shore. As at present a' /ised, I do not think it expedient to carry out your suggestion, but I will thank you to jmmunicate to the Department any further iacts or information you may be able to gather upon the subject. I am, &c. (SVjned) GEO. S. BOUTWELL, Secretary. Inclosure 7 in No. 3. ' ' ' ■■• •' •■ • Erlrnctfrom the " Daily British Colonist " 0/ April 6, 188G. •• •■• ' Alaska Seal Catching. — The story soes that some poachers were fitting out in San Francisco to kill seals on the I'^edcral preserves in Alaskan waters. To warn all such parties Secretary Manning addvcssed the following note to Collector Hnger: — "Sir, " Treasury Department, March 16, JSSG. "I transmit herewith, for yo\n' inforniation, a cojjy of a letter addressed by the Department on the 12th .March, ISS], to 1). A. D'Aneona, concerning; the jurisdiction of the United Stales in the waters of the Territory of Alaska, and the prevention of the killing of fur-seals and other fur-hearing animals within such areas, as preserihed by Chapter .■>, Title 28 of the Revised Statutes. The attention of your predecessor in office was called to this subject on the -ilh April, ISSl. This coniniunieation is acdressed to you, inasmuch as it is understood that certain parties at your jiort conteiiiphite the fitting out of exjjeditions to kill fur-seals in these waters. You are recpicsted to give due publicity t(i such letters, in order that such parlies maybe informed of the construction placed by this Department upon the provision of law referred to. " RcspecttuUy yours, (Signed) " D. M.vxxixc, Secretary. " Collector of Customs, San Franci:-co." we find tVie full explanation of this note in the U|)on reference to back files letter referred to, which is as follows "Sir, "Ti-casury Department, March 12, 18S1. " Your letter of the 19th ultimo, rccpiesting certain information in regard to the meaning placed by this Department upon the Law regulating the killing of ftu'-bearing animals in the Territory of Alaska, was duly received. " The Law prohibits the killing of any fur-bearing animals, except as otiierwise therein provided, within the limits of Alaska Territory, or in the waters thereof, and also prohibits the killing of any fur-.^eals on the Islands of St. Paul and St. George, or in the waters adjacent thereto, except during certain months. "You inrpiire in regard to the interpretation of the terms ' waters there' and ' waters adjacent thereto,' as used in the Law, and how far the jurisdiction of tlu- United States is to bo understood as extending. " Presuming your incpiiry to relate more especially to the waters of Western Alaska, ycni are informed that the Treaty with Russia of the .lOth March, 1870,* by which the Territoiy of Alaska was ceded to the United States, defines the boundary of the territory so ceded. This Treaty is found on p|). 671 to 073 of the volume of I'reaties of the Revised Statutes. It will be seen, therefore, that the limit of the cession extends from a line storting from the Arctic Ocean, and running through Bchring's Strait to the north of St. Lawrence Islands. " The line runs thence in a south-westerly direction, so as to pass midway between the Island of Alton and Copper Island of the Kormansborski Couplet or Group of the North Pac tic Ocean, to meridian of 17>>° west longitude. All the waters within that boundary to the western end of the Aleutian Archipelago and chain of islands are considered as comprised within the waters of Alaska Territory. " All the penalties prescribed by law against the killing of fur-bearing animals would thereforr; attach against any violation of law within the limits before described. "Very respcctfullv, (Signed)' '' II.' Y. FllVul^Ci^, Actinrj Secretary. " D. A. D'Aneona, 717, O'Farrell Street, San Francisco, California." All parties arc warned that the rule laid down by the Secretary if the Treasury of the United States in 1S81, and reaffirmed in the note of Secretary Manning to tlie Collector of this port of date of the lOlh March, 188(1, will be rigidly enforced against all who attempt to ])oacii upon the Federal preserve by killing seals within its limits, there laid flown and defined, in the waters of Alaska. From that preserve the Federal Govern- ment (ievivcs revenue, and its lessee is entitled to the protection proif'ered by the note of the Secretnrv referred to. I • ? 1?67. , . Inclosure 8 in No. 3. .• . -i . :.! . .11 Mr. F. Lubbe to Mr. E. Crow-Baker, M. P. " • Dear Sir, Victoria, British Colombia, March 30, 188G. THE inclosed clippingr explains itself. The (iiicstion I wish to ask you is. Can the United States claim the easterly half of Behring's Sea as American waters ? The British schooners " Mary Kilen," " Favourite," " Onward," " Grace," " Dolpliin, "Anna Beck," "Wm. P. Sayward," " Mary Taylor," "Carolina," '•Alfred Adams," and "Active" intend to follow "the seals into Behring's Sea at the end of the seal-tishini;' season otf the British Columbiii <juci=,[,, '^ay the 20tli May next. These schooners would spear and shoot seals upon the hip;h seas, and have no occasion to go within 30 miles of any land. You are aware that the British schooner " Mary Kllen " has already made two successful voyages to tlic Behring's Sea; the "Favourite" made also a successful voyage during 1885. Both tliese viessels were spoken by an American Revenue cruizer in Behring's Sea last summer, but not in any wav molested. Would it not be well for you to obtain from the Minister of Marine in Ottawa a written opinion, and, further, would you be good enough to conununicate to me the substance df sucii opinion by wire? . Please act promptly, and obliirc yours, &c. (Signed) F. LUBBE. Warning to Seal Hunters. The Treasury Department, having become informed that certain parties arc fitting out expeditions for the ])urpose of killing fur-seals and other fur-bearing animals in Alaska waters, gives the following information to parties concerned, as to how far the jiu'isdiction of the United States extends in the matter. The Treaty with Russia of the 30th March, 1870, by which the Territory of Alaska was ceded to the United States, dctlnes the boundary of the territory so ceded. It will be seen therefrom that the limit of the cession extends from a line starting from the Arctic Ocean and runninu through Behring's Straits to the north of St. Lawrence Islands. The line runs thence in a south-westerly direction, so as to pass midway between the Island of Attou and Cooper Island, of the Kromanboski couplet or group, in the North Pacific Ocean, to meridian 173' west longitude. All the waters within that boundary to the western end of the Aleutian Archipelago and chain of islands are considered as comprised within, he waters of Alaska Territory. A'; the penalties prescribed by law against the killing of fur-bearing animals would therefore attach against any violation of law within the limits described. (Telegraphic.) Mt. a. Crow-Baker to Mr. F. Lubbe Your matter progressing expeditiously as possible. Referred by Minister Justice. Will advise you when decision is reached. April 20. Council to Mr. E. C. Kow'jotkam to Mr. F. Lubbc. ('I'elegraphic) Mai/ '.W. Minister Justice; gives opinion in your favour and against American contention. He has recomnicndud attention of Imperial Government being called to the subject in order that views of Canadian Government be then sustained and enforced. Inclosure I) in No. ."?. Declarations. I, WILLIAM MUNSIE, of Vicioria, grocer, do solemnly and sincerely declare that I am sole owner of the schooner " Carolina," and she has a Canadian register, having been registered at the port of Victoria. The vessel and her outfit at the time she left for 1! Behring's Sea was 7,000 dollars, anil I make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing tlic same to be true, by virtue of tlie Act pasEed in the 37th year ot" Her Majesty's reign, int'culed " An Act tor the Suppression of Voluntary and ICxtra-iudicial Oaths." (Signed) WM. MUNSIE. Taken and declared before me at Victoria, this 23rd August, 1880. (Signed) M. W. Tyinvnirr Drake. J.P. I, 'Ihomas McLacdy, of Victoria, British Columbia, cook, do solemnly and sincerely declare that I was cnsngcd as cook on board the British schooner " Carolina," and I was on board wlicn the United States' steamer " Corwin " seized iier. During the whole time the said schooner was sealing she never sighted land one?. After she was seized the "Corwin "took her in tow about 6 oclock in tlie evening, and about 3 o'clock in the morning the English schooner "Onward," ot the tonnage 3."r2() tons, was also seized and taken in tow to Ounalaska. Her crew were left on board and not removed to San Francisco; she had seal-skins on board. And I make this solemn declaration, conscien- tiously believing the same to be true, by virtue of the Act passe. 1 in the .'Hth year of Her Majesty's reign, intituled " An Act for the Suppression of Voluntary and Kxtra-judicial Oaths." (Signed) T. McLAEDY. Taken and declared before mo this 23rd August, 1886, at Victoria, British Columbia. (Signed) M. W. Tyuwuitt Duaki:, J.P. I, Edward Shields, of Sooke District, Vancouver Island, a hunter, engaged on board the British schooner " Carolina," of 3l'!)0 registered tonnage, do solemnly and sincerely declare that I left \'ictoria on board the aforesaid i-chooner on the 20th May, 188(), bound on a voyage to Behring's Sea for the ])urpose of sealing. The schooner was titted out ibr tills purpose. She had eleven hands on board, ir 'uding the master, by name James Oiiilvie. We sailed to Behring's Sea and commeneev. sealing on the lath .rune, and at that time we were about 300 miles from land, and we continued crtiizing about for seals, and up to the time the United States' vessel " Corwin " seized us we had 680 seals. During the whole time we were cruizing about we were in the open sea, out of sight of any land. The seals we obtained were chiefly females. Al the time the "Corwin" seized us on the 1st August we were out of sight of land and in latitude iiS* 60' north, longitude 1GS° 53' west, as 1 was inlbrmed and verily believe. There were other vessels, both .Xmerican and English, cruizing about in the same neighbourhood. We never killed a seal in the neiglibourhood of the Aleutian Islands. I <\as away in the boats when the " Corwin " seized the vesyel, ami when I came back I found the "Carolina " in tow of the " Corwin." The captain of the "Corwin," .\bbey by name, took away all the fire-arms, consisting of rifles and shot-nuns, ten in all, n.id I was taken to Qunilaska, and from there 1 was taken to San Francisco by the steamer "St. Paul," and there turned adiit'l. The " Carolina" was left at Ounalaska with the seals and outfit, and I make this solenm declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, by virtue of the Act passed in the 37th year of Her Majesty's reign, intiiuled " .Vn Act for the Suppression of Voluntary and Extra-judicial Oaths." (Signed) EDWARD SHIELDS. of law. Taken and declared before mc at Victoria, this 23rd day of August, 18%, in due forai (Sign d) M. W. TVRWUIIT DU.\KE, J.P. u, 1, John Dallas, of Victoria, British Columbia, seaman, do solemnly and sincerely declare that 1 was engaged al)out the end of May I88f) as a seaman on hoard the schooner " Thornton," of 22*o0 regislercd tonnage, registered in the Dummion o( Canada as a 1?iitish vessel. I vas engaged sealing on the west coast of Vancouver Island, and when the seals got scarce the "Thornton" left [? Clayo(|uot] V'ancouver Island, for Behring's Sea ahout beginning of June, and three days after passing Unmark Pass we killed our lirst seal, being then about 250 miles from land. We were engaged seahng in the open sea until the 1st August, We had a little over 400 skins on board, when the United States' steamer " Co.win " seized our vessel and took her to Ounalaska. They were ahout twenty-eight hours engaged in towing us to Ounalaska. The master of the " Corwin " removed all our guns and ammunition — ten guns in all. There were fourteen hands on board the "Thornton" altogether, including two Indians, nine while men, and a Chinese ook — were sent to San Francisco and tiiere discharged. Two white men and two Indians were left on board the schooner at Ounalaska. We were 5 or 6 miles from the " Carolina" at the time we were seized. I saw no otiier vessels in sight at the lime. We were never in sight of land during the whole time we were sealing. And I make tiiis declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, by virtue of the Act passed in the 37th year of Her Majesty's reign, intituled "An / ct for the Suppression of Voluntary and Extra-judicial Oaths." (Signed) JOHN DALLAS, his X mark. Taken and declared before me at Victoria, this •23rd day of August, lb86, tl;j same having been first read over to him (Signed) M. W. Tyrwhitt Drake, J.P. No. 4. Sir L. West to the Earl of Iddesleigli. — (Received October 4.) My Lord, Wnshincjton, September 21, i886. THE reported seizure of British vesFels by American cruizirs in waters over whicli it sipptars the United Stales' Government claim jurisdiction as adjacent to the Territory of Alaska has given rise to much conmient in the newspapers touching the interests of a powerful commercial Company which may be att'ected by the international (luestions arising therefnmi ; and in this connection I have the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith n precis of the history of the origin of tiiis Com|)any, as well as of what has bc^u written on the subject. Chapter 3 of the Revised Statutes of the United Slates (p. 3-42, sections ]9~>A to 1976 inclusive) contains the " provisions relating to the unorganized Teriitory of Alaska ; " and section lO.O^ extends " the laws of the United States to and over all tlie mainland, islands, and waters of the territory " ceded by Russia to the United States by the 'JVeatv of 1867, In addition the lease of the Government Seal Islands the Alaska Company holds as well leases of certain islands from the Russian Government, so that in (act it may be said to monopolize the seal fur trade in these waters. I have, &c. (Signed) L, S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosurc in No. 4. History of the Origin of the Alaska Commercial Company. THE transfer of the Territory of Ala.-ka to the United States' Government, in conijiliance with the terms of the Treaty of Purchase bct\^een the two Governments, included the transfer of all the Russian Government property, such as public huildins's at Sitka, Governor's house, C'ustoni-house, hospital, and wharves, i^'c. There were, however, certain buildings reserved as the property of the Russian Fur Company, and as General Rousseau, the United States' Commissioner, could not, in his otiicial capacity, take any active or open jmrt in its disposal, Prince Matsukoff, the Russian Governor, concluded a barj^ain with Mr. Hutchinson, who accompaincd General Rousseau as liis Priviiie Secretarv. This bargain included all the property of the Russian Fur Company and I128J 10 I, • li: I i :.!■ 1. seal-skins stored. It was made on private terms and to the exclusion of the stockholders of the Russian Company and the American officers stationed at Sitka, who claimed tiiat they were entitled to a share of the spoils. By virtue of this bargain with Prince Matsukoff, who was Governor of the Company, Mr. Hutchinson proposed to take possession of tlie fur trade of Alaska and the Seal Islands, and left for Victoria (British Columbia) and San Francisco to make the necessarv arrangements. At the former place he met with a Mr. Kohl, owner of a British steamer called the " Fidelitor," with whom he entered into partnership, and the firm still exists under the name of Hutchinson, Cole, and Co. The steamer obtained an American register under the plea that she was o Russian vessel at the time of the transfer of the territory to the United States, and was thus enabled to caiTy on the coasting trade. Preparations were made in 18G8 for working the fur trade of the newly-acquired possession, and especially for the occupation of the Pribylov Islands, to fhich, by virtue of the arrangements with Prince Matsukott", the new Company considered they had an exclusive right. Upon their arrival there, however, they found them occupied by experienced sealers from New London and Stonington (Connecticut) under one Captain Morgan. A fight for possession seemed imminent, but a division of the season's catch was finally agreed upon. While the two parties were thus amicably at work, M. Pflugcl, Russian Viee-Consul at Honolulu, arrived at the bead of an expedition, believing that he should find the islands unoccupied, but was eventually forced to retire before the combined forces of Captain Morgan and Mr. Hutchinson. It now became obvious that the Government must take means to preserve these valuable seal rookeries, and in the winter of 18(38 an Act of Congress was passed, the conditions for permission to take seals being, however, reserved for future Congressional action. The coalition between Hutchinson and Morgan still fiontinued, and finally led to the organization of the powerful and wealthy Alaska Commercial Company. Since 1870 this Company has controlled the entire fur trade of Alaska, and by virtue of its alliances with the lessees of the Russian Seal Islands, controls the valuable fur-seal trade of the world. With strong politi'^al influence in the Congress of 1876, it obtained a lease of the Pribylov Islands for twenty years at a rental of 55,000 dollars a-year, and a royalty of 2 dol. 62 c. per skin, the take to be limited to 100,000 skins a-year. It is calculated that the Company pays annually 3 15,000 dollars to the United States' Treasury, which, after paying all the expenses of the Territory, yields more than 4 per cent, per annum on the purchase-money paid to Russia for Alaska. To preserve this revenue through future years the protection of the seals from illegal capture or disturbance on their annual visits to the islands has been deemed an absolute necessity, and hence the prohibition against approaching or landing on the islands and the vigilance of the United States' cruizers in the Behring's Sea. It is not, however, generally understood that the Alaska Company coritrols the fur trade of all the mainland and islands of Alaska lying west of the 141st meridian of west longitude, and that its operations over this vast extent of territory and coast are entirely distinct from, and have no connection with, its exclusive control of the Seal Islands, which it holds by virtue of its lease from the United States' Government. Outside of these islands it holds no exclusive rights or francliise from the Govern- ment, nor does it pay any rent or royalty to the Government on the territory it occupies or the furs it procures from the natives. It has no rights over any other citizen or company of citizens who may desire to trade in competition with it, and yet it has been aided by the Revenue Maiine in suppressing competition from rival traders, for it aj)|)ears that, under instructions from the Treasury Department, the Revenue cruizers board and examine every trading-vessel sighted in the Behring's Sea or on the north-west coast of Alaska, except the vessels of the Company. If a pretext can be found, an officer is placed on board with instructions to take the vessel to Ounalaska and discharge her cargo. She is then sent to San Francisco, where the United States' Marshal finds that there is no cause for condemnation, and, as the object of breaking up her voyage has been gained, she is released and restored to her owners. The vessels subjected to this treatment come from British Columbia and Japan, and are, it is said, fitted out for contraband trade. Washington, September 1886. 11 No. 5. Sir L. West to the Earl of Iddesleigh. — (Received October 4.) MyJLord, Washington, September 21, 188G. WITH reference to my preceding despatch, I liave the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith copies of correspondence, as published in the newspapers, relative to the seizure of British sealers in Alaska waters. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. 5. Inclosure in No. 5. Extract from the " New York Herald " of September 21, 1886. The Bhitisu Sealers — Officers of some of the trespassing Schooners fixed AND imprisoned. Washington, September 20, 1886. ACTtNG SECRETARY FAIRCHFLD has received a telegram from Captain Abbey, commanding the Revenue steamer " Corwin," dated at Nanaimo, British Columbia, which is as follows : — " Respectfully report 'Corwin' here at request of Governor Swineford and Judjje Dawson. Have brought here tventy-two British seanren, released from seized sealers. Am to land remaining released American seamen at Port Townsend. Masters and mates of the seized craft have been convicted and sentenced to fines or imprisonment, or both. I made full depositions for libel suits before leaving Sitka," Despatches have been received at the Navy Department from Lieutenant-Commander Nichols, commanding the " Pinta," from Sitka, Alaska, relating to the seizure of the British sealers. Tn the despatch dated the 28th August he says: — " On the 24th instant the Revenue steamer ' Corwin ' came in, bringing the American vessel • San Diego,' of San Francisco, seized for catching seals unlawfully. She also reported the seizure of three English schooners for the same offence. The latter weie left at Ounalaska in charge of the United States' Deputy Marshal, the officers, crows, and cargoes being brought here. A large quantity of arms and ammunition was also seized. The matter comes up before the District Court here next 'veek, and it is probable that interesting international questions will come up, as well also as the jurisdiction of the United States over the entire seas in the Arctic and Behring's Seas east of the boundarv- hne." In a despatch dated the 2nd September he says that two of the cases have been disposed of as follows : — "The captain and mate of the British schooner 'Thornton' were tried by jury, found guilty, and sentenced each to imprisonment for thirty days and fined, the captain 500 dollars and ihe mute 300 dollars. The captain and mute of the American schooner 'San Diego' waived a jury, and were tried bctbre the Court. Both were found guilty and sentenced, the captain to two months' imprisonment, and the mate to one month's imprisonment. " The cases of the two other British schooners will come up in a day or two. The captain of one of them has disappeared, and, it is supposed, has committed suicide " From an inclosure in one of these despatches it is learned that the " Corwin," when conveying her prizes to port, sighted five other vessels, all doubtless engaged in uidawful sealing. They made sail with all possible haste as soon as the Revenue vessel was sighted, and the latter was unable to follow them without abandoning her prizes. [128J C 2 ill! !3 No. 6. Admiralty to Foreign Office. — {Received October II.) Sir, AdmiruUy, October 7, ISf^G. WITH reference to my letters of the 26th August and the 20tli September,* relative to the seizure of Biitish Columbian sealim; schooners, 1 am commanded by my Lords Commissioners of the Admiraily to transmit to you, for the perusal of the Secrclaiy <.<( Stale for Foreign AflFairs, copv of an Act to prevent the extermination of fur-biaiing animals in Alaska, together with copy of the lease of the United Stales to the Alaska Commercial Company to take fur-seals in the Territory of Alaska. A similar letter has been sent to the Colonial Office. I am, &c. (Signed) EVAN MACGREGOR. Inclosure I in No. 6. ' ' : ■i! I ■1; Public No. 120. An Act to prevent the Extermination of Fur-bearing Animals in Alaska. BE it enacted by the Senate and House of Represenlatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled that it shall be unlawful to kill any fur-seal upon the Islands of St. Paul and St. George, or in the waters adjacent thereto, except during the months of June, July, September, and October in each year, and it shall be unlawful to kill such seals at any time by the use of tire-arms, or use other means tending to drive the seals awav from said islands. Provided that the natives of said islands shall have the privilege of killing such youn<j; seals as may be necessary for their own food and clothini* during other monihs, and also such old seals as may be required for their own clothing and for the manufacture of boats for their own use, which killing shall be limited and controlled by such Regulations as shall be prescribed by the Secretary of the Treasury. Section 2. And be it further enacted, that it shall be unlawful to kill any female seal, or any seal less than one >earcld at any season of the year except as above provided ; and it shall also be unlawful to kill any seal in the waters adjacent to the said islands, or on the beaches, clitfs, or rocks where they haul up from the sea to remain ; and any person who shall violate either of the provisions of this or the first section of this Act shall be punished on conviction thereof for each offence by a tine of not less tlian 200 dollars, nor more than 1,000 dollars, or by imprisonment not exceeding six months, or by such fine and imprisonment both at the discretion of the Court having jurisdiction, by taking cognizance of the offence ; and all vessels, *heir tackle, ap|)arel, and furniture, whose crew shall be found engaged in the violation of any of the provisions of this Act, shall be forfeited to the United States. See. M. And be it further enacted, that for the period of twenty years from and after the passage of this Act the number of fur-seals which may be killed for their skins upon the Island of St. Paul is herebv limited and restricted to 75,000 per annum ; and the number of fur-seals which may be killed for their skins upon the Island of St. George is hereby limited and restricted to 25,000 per aimuin. Provided that the Secretary of the Treasury may restrict and limit the right of killing if it shall become necessary fi,r the preservation of such seals, with such proportionate reduction of the rents reserved to the Government as shall be right and proper, and if any person shall knowingly violate either of the provisions of this section, he shall, upon due conviction thereof, he punished in the same way as provided herein for a violation of the provisions of the first and second sections of this Act. Sec. 4. And be it further enacted, that immediately upon the passage of this Art the Secretary of the Treasury shall lease, for the rental mentioned in section 6 of this Act, to proper and responsible parties, to the best advantage of the United States, having due regard to the interests of the Government, the native inhabitants, the parties heretofore engaged in trade, and the protection of the seal fisheries, for a term of twenty * See Inclosure 1 in No. I, and Inclosure 2 in No. 3. i ■ M yenrs from the Ist duy of Mftv, l?70, the right to engage in the hiisiness of tai<in^ fur- souls on tiie Islands of St. Paul and St. George, and to send u vessel or vessels to said islands for the skins of such seiils, i?iviiiu: to the le.ssee or iesstitj of said i.<4laiuis ii lease, duly executed, in duplicate, not tiaiisfcinble, and takins; from the lessee or lessees of said islands a bond, with sufficient sureties, in u sum not less tiian (JOn^OOO dollars, condHioned for the faithful observance of all the laws and reciuiieuients of Congress, and of the Regulations of the Secretary of the Treasury touihinj; the subject-nmtter of taking fin- seals and disposing of the same, and for the payment of all taxes and dues accruing lo tiie United States connected therewith ; and in making said lease the Secretary of ilic Treasury shall have due rtgard to the preservation of the seal-fur trade of said islands, and the comfort, maintenance, and education of the natives tliereof. The said lestees shall furnish to the several masters of vessels employed by thetn certified copie* of the lease held by them respectively, which shall be presented to the Governraeni Revenue officer for the time beina wlio may be in charge at ihs said islands as the authority of tlio party for landing and taking skins. Sec. 5. And be it further enacted, that nt the expirotion of said term of tweqty years, or on surrender or forfeiture of any lease, other lea'^es may be made in manner iifi>resai(l for other terms of twenty years; but no person other than American citizens shall he permitted by lease or otherwise to occupy said islands or either of them, for the purpose of taking the skins of fur-seals therefrom, nor shall any foreign vessel be engaged in, taking such skins, and the Secretary of the Treasury shall vacate and declare any lease forfeited if the same be held or operated for the use, benefit, or advantage, directly or indirectly, of anv person or persons other than American citizens. Every lease shall contain a covenant on the part of the lessee that he will not keep, sell, furnish, give, or dispose of any distilled spirits or spirituous licpiors on either of the said islands to any of the natives thereof, such peison not biing a physician and furnishinji tht sanve for use as medicine: and any person who shall kill any iur-seal on either of the said islands, or in the waters adjacent thereto, without authority of the lessees thereof, and any person who shall molest, disturb, or interfere witii said lessees, or either of them, or their agents or employes, in the lawful prosecution of their business, under the provisions of this Act shall be deemed' guilty of a misdemeanour, and shall for each offence, on conviction thereof, be punished in the same way and by like penalties as prescribed in the 2nd section of this Act; and all vessels, their tackle, af)parel, appurtenances, and cargo, whose crews shall he found engaged in any violation of either of the provisions of this section, shall be forfeited to the United States ; and if any person or Company, under any lease herein authorized, shall knowingly kill, or permit to be killed, any number of seuls exceeding the number lor each island in tliis Act prescribed, such person or Company shall, in addition to the penalties and forfeitures aforesaid, also forfeit the whole number of the skins of seals killed in that year, or, in case the same have been disposed of, then said parties or Company shall forfeit the value of tlie same; and it shall be the duty of any Revenue officer, officially acting as such on either of said islands, to seize and destroy any distilled spirits or spirituous liquors found thereon, provided that such officer shall make detailed report of his doing so to the t.'oUector of the port. Sec. 6. And be it further enacted, that the annual rental to be reserved by said lea«e shall not be less than .50,U00 dollars per annum, to be secured by deposit of United States' bonds to that amouht, and in addition thereto a revenue tax as duty of 2 dollars is hereby laid upon each fur-seal skin taken and shipped from said islands during the continuance of such lease to be paid into the Tivasury of the United Stales; and the ^Secretary of the Treasury is hereby en)|)Owered and authorized to make all needful Rule* and Regulations for the collection and payment of the same, lor the comfort, maintenance, education, ami proiection of the natives of said islands, and also for carrying into full effect all the pro- visions of this Act. Provided, further, that the Secretary of the Treasury may ter.niuafc any lease (jjven to any person. Company, or Corporation on full and satisfactory proof of the violation of any of the provisions of this Act, or the Rules and Regulati{!fns established by him. Provided, further, that the Secretary of the Treasury is hereby authorized to deliver to the owners the fur-seal skins now stored on the islands, on the "payment of 1 dollar for each of said skins taken and shipped away by said owners. Sec. 7. And be it further enacted, that the provisions of the 7th and 8th sections of " An Act to extend the Laws of the United States relating to Customs, Commerce, and Navigation over the Territory ceded to the United States by Russia, to establish a Collection District thereon, and for other purposes," approved 27th July, 18G8, shall l)e deemed to apply to this Act, and all prosecutions for offences committed against the provisions of this Act, and all other proceedings had bectiuse of the violations of the provisions of thib Act, and which are authorized by said Act above meationed, shall be in I 14 accordance with the provigions thereof, and all Acts and parts of Acts inconsistent with the provisions of this Act are hereby repealed. Sec. 8. And be it further enacted, that the Congress may at any time hereafter alter, amend, or repeal this Act. Approved Ist July, 1870. Inclosurc 2 in No. 6. A/r. Boutwell to Mr. Phelps, April 19, 1872. [See Inclosure 6 in No. 3.] Inclosure 3 in No. 6. Lease of the United States to the Alaska Commercial Company to take Fur Seals in the Territory of Alaska. THIS indenture, in duplicate, made this 3rd day of August, a.d. 1870, by and between William A. Richardson, Acting Secretary of the Treasury, in pursuance of an Act of Congress, approved the 1st July, 1870, entitled "An Act to prevent the Extermination of Fur-bearing Animals in Alaska," and the Alaska Commercial Company, a Corporation duly established under the laws of the State of California, acting by John F. JVliller, its President and Agent, in accordance with a Resolution of said Corporation duly adopted at a meeting of its Board of Trustees, held the 31st January, 1870, Witnesseth : — That the said Secretary hereby leases to the said Alaska Commercial Company, without power of transfer, for the term of twenty years from the 1st day of May, 1870, the right to engage in the business of taking fur-seals on the Islands of St. George and St. Paul, within the Territory of Alaska, and to send a vessel or vessels to said islands for the sknis o\ such seals. And the said Alaska Commercial Company, in consideration of their right under this lease, hereby covenant and agree to pay lor each year during said term, and in proportion during any part thereof, the sum of .05,000 dollars into the Treasury of the United States, in accordance with the Regulations of the Secretary, to be made for this purpose under said Act, which payment shall be secured by deposit of United States' bonds to that amount, and also covenant and agree to pay annually into the Treasury of the United States, under said Rules and Regulations, a revenue tax or duty of 2 dollars upon each fur-seal skin taken and shipped by them, in accordance with the provisions of the Act aforesaid, and also the sum of 6:i^ cents for each fur-seal skin taken and shipped, an^ 55 cents per gallon for each gallon of oil obtained from said seals for sale on said islands or elsewhere, and sold by said Company ; and also covenant and agree, in accordance with said Rules and Regulations, to furnish free of charge the inhabitants of the Islands of St. Paul and St. George annually during said term 2;'). 000 dried salmon, iiO cords fire-wood, a suilicient quantity of salt and a sufficient number of barrels for preserving the necessary supply of meat. And the said lessees also hereby covenant and agree during the term aforesaid to maintain a school on each island, in aeccrdance with said Rules and Regulations, and suitable for the education of the natives of said islands, for a period of not less than eight months in each year. And the said lessees further covenant and agree not to kill upon said Island of St. Paul more than 75,000 fur-seals, and upon the Island of St. George not more than •jr),U00 fur-seals, per annum ; not to kill any fur-seal upon the islands aforesaid ia any otlur month except the months of June, July, September, and October of each year; not to kill such seals at any time by the use of fire-arn)S or other means tending to drive the seals from said islands ; not to kill any female seal or any seal less than one year old ; not to kill any seal in the waters adjacent to said islands, or on the beaches, cliU's, or rocks where they haul up from the sea to remain. And the said lessees further covenant and agree to abide by any restriction or limitation upon the rights to kill seals under this lea«ie that the Act prescribes, or that the Secretary o( the Treasury shall judge necessary for the preservation of such seals. ■y •I ■I M 15 And tlie said lessees hereby aj^ree that they will not in any way sell, transfer, or assign this lease, and that any triinsCor, sale, or ussigninent of the same shall be void or ot no effect. And the said lesaces further covenant and agree to furnish to the several musters of the vessels employed by tliem certilied copies of this lease to be presented to tlie Government Revenue officers for the time being in charge of said islands, as the authority of said lessees for the landin)? and iking said skins. And the said lessees further covenant and agree that they or their agents shall not keep, sell, furnish, give, or dispose of any distilled spirits or spirituous liquors on either of the said islands to any of the natives thereof, such person not being u phvsiciuti furnisiiing the same for use as medicine. And tlie said lessees further covenant and agree that this lease ia accepted subject to all needful Rules and Regulations which shall at any time or times hereafter be mndc by tlie Secretary of the Treasury for the collection and payment of the rentals herein agreed to be paid by said lessees, for the comfort, maintenance, education, and ])rott'Ction of the natives of said islands, and for carrying into effect all the provisions of the Act aforesaid, and will abide by and conform to said Rules and Regulations. And the said lessees, accepting this lease with a full knowledge of the provisions of the aforesaid Act of Congress, further covenant and agree that they will fulfil all the provisions, requirements, and limitations of said Act, whether heroin specifically set out or not. In witness whereof, the parties aforesaid have hereunto set their hands and seals the day and year above written. WILLIAM A. RICHARDSON, Actiwj Secretary to the Treasury. ; JNO. F. MILLER, President Alaska Commercial Company. Executed in presence of — (Signed) J. H. Saville. I certify the foregoing printed copy of the lease of the United States to the Alaska Commercial Company of the right to take fur-seals in the Territory of Alaska has betu compared with the original on file in this Department, and is a true copy thereof. (Signed) J. H. SAVILLE, Chief Clerk, Treasury Department. Washington, September 3, 1870, office. State of California, City and County of San Francisco, Collector's Office, Custom-house, December 23, 1885. I hereby certify the foregoing to be correct copies of original documents ou file at this State of California, City and County of San Francisco. John T. Fogarty, being duly sworn, deposes and says that the foregoing are true and correct copies of original documents on file in the office of the Collector of Customs of the port of San Francisco, that he has compared the foregoing with said originals, and knows them to be correct copies to his own knowledge. (Signed) JOHN T. FOGARTY. Subscribed and sworn to before me this 23rQ day of December, 1885. (Signed) John E. Hamill, Notary Public. No. 7. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received October 16.) Sif, .. > ' ■ Dotnning Street, Octobet 16, \886, WITH referetttSe to the letter firom this Department of the 25th ultimo, respecting tfce seieare of certain Cainadiao scaling schooners in Behritig's Sea, I aila directed by ■f^ te: Mr. Secretary Stanhope to transmit to you, to be laid before the Earl of Iddcslcinh, copicii ot three despatches from the Utticer adniiuistcring titc Guverninenluf Canada uii the stilijcct. Mr. Stanhope would be ^jlad to lie informed whether Lord (ddesleigh has directed aay uctiou to be taken uu the letter above referred to. I iim, &c. (Signed) U. H. MEADE. m Inrdosure I in No. 7. Administrator Lord A. E. Ruxsell to Mr. Stanhope. Sir, Halifax, Nova Scotia, September 27, 1886. I HAVE the honour to forward herewith, for transmission to the Foreign OHice, a copy of an a[);>roved Report of a Committee of the F^rivy Council, submitting depositions from some of the officers and men of the Canadian schooners "Onward," "Thornton," niui " Carol iiui," relative to the seizure of those vessels in liehring's Sea by the United States' Revemie cutter "Corwin," and their subsctiuent detention attheportof Ounalaska, in the Territory of Alaska. 2. You will observe from the accompanying papers thnt it appears that the schooners n>cntioned are Canadian vessels, fitted out in Victoria, British Columbia, for the ca|)ture of seals in the waters of the Northern Pacitic Ocean a<\jacent to Vancouver Island, Queen Charlotte Islands, and Alaska, and that at the time of their seizure by the " Corwin " on the 1st August last they were taking seal? in the open sea at a distance cf more tiiun (iU miles from land. 3. .My Minister of Marine and Fisheries has taken steps to get further depositions from the owners, masters, and crews of the above-mentioned vesgels in orfler that a claim may be nm;le upon the United States' Government for damages lor the unwarranted SL-izuie of British vessels on the high sea. 4. I have conm)unicated a copy of this Order in Coiiucll, with the accomimnying papers, to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington. I have, &c. I ? Inclosure 2 in No. 7. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council for Canada, approver! by his K.rrnllency Ike 4f/'"""s'''a'8'' of the Government in Council, on the lirU September, 188G. ON' a Report dated the 18th September, 1886, from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, submittin;; the accompanying papers relative to the seizure of the Canadian schooners " Onward," " Thornton," and " Ccirolina," in Behring's Se,i, by the United States' Revenue cutter " Corwin," and their subsequent detention at the port of Ounalaska, in the Territory of Alaska — 1 . Copy of a letter from James Qgilvie, master of the Canadian sealing schooner " Carolina ;" 2. Copy of a letter from Daniel Munroe, master of the Canadian sealing schooner " Onward ;"" ."!. Deposition of John Dallas, seaman on iioard the "Thornton;" of Thomas .McLardy, cook on board the "Carolina;" of Edward Shields, seaman on board the "Carolina;" and of William Munsie, owner of the " Carolina;" all of the Province of liritish Columbia : The Ministei* observes that from these papers it appears that the schooners mentioned Hre Canadian vessels fitted out in Victorin, British Columbia, for the capture of seals in the waters of the Northern Pacific Ocean, adjacent to Vancouver Island, Queen Chiirlotte's Islands, and Alaska; that at the time ot their seizure by the "Corwin" they were taking seals in the open sea out of sight of land, the " Carolina" in latitude 30° 50' north, longitude 1GS° .53' west; the "Onward" in latitude 54° 52' north, longitude 1 07° 5a' west ; and the " Thornton " in about the same latitude and longitude ; and all of them at a distance of more than 60 miles from the nearest land ; that they were taken possession of by the United States' cutter on the 1st August, IStiti, and towed to the port "H 17 of Ounalaska, where they are still detained. The crews of the " Thornton " and '• Carohna," witli the exception of the captain and one man on eacii vessel detained at Ounalaska, were sent by tlie steamer " St. Puul " to Sun Francisco, California, and then turned adrift, while the crew of the " Onward " was kept ut Ounalaska. At the lime of their seizure tiio " Thornton " hud ^04 seal-skins on board, the "Onward 900, and the "Carolina" 080, and tliesc are detained and kept at Ounalaska W. ulonp with the schooners bv the United States' authorities. The Minister states that he has takc.i steps to get further depositions from the owners, masters, and crews of the vessels above mentioned, in order that a claim may be made upon the United States' Government for damaijes for this unwarranted seizure of British vessels in the open sea. The Committee recommend that your I'^xcellency be moved to transmit a copy of this Minute, if approved, together witli copies of the papers herein mentioned, to the Right Houourulde the Principal Secretary of State fur the Colonies, for transmission to the Foreign Office, and also copies to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington, All of which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council, Canada. Inclosure 3 in No. 7. Mr. Ogllvie to Mr, Miinsie, Augiixt 0, 188G. [See Inclosure 5 in No. 3.] Inclosure 4 in No. 7. . . Mr. D. Munroe to Mr. C. Spring. ' ' Schooner " Onward," ut Port Ilioluk, Ounalaska, Dear Sir, Augusi 1, 1836. ON the 2nd, while the " Onward " was in latitude 54 .'52' north, lonj^itude 167 55' west, and about 70 miles from the nearest land, the United States' Revenue cutter " Corwin," having the schooners '-Thornton " and " Carolina" in tow, boarded us, and sent a crew on board and towed us in iiere, where we are lying at jiresent with sails bent and seals on board, and a watchman in charge, but cannot find out what they intend to do with us, so I cannot say any more about it at present. I rnet the " Favourite" on the 28th. Captain M'Lean was on board of us ; we gave him 508 skins, and they had 1,290 they took themselves, making them about 1,800 total, and as we were in sight of each other until the night of the 1st instant he must have made a good catch, for we have 400 skins on board at present that we took in four days, and I am positive his crowd could take twice that number, as we have not got the best of sealers. I believe all the schooners did well, and I trust they will get away all right. There is no cutter out at present, as there is only two of them up here- — one of them up in the Arctic, and the other that brought us here is still watching us here. We may find out to-day how they are going to dispose of us, but I am in hopes they made false steps, and that they can do nothing more than spoil the season. They took the schooner "San Diego " in here about a month ago, and took the skins out of her and unbent her sails, and put everything ashore, and they are sending the crew to San Francisco to-day in one of the Fur Company's steamers, the " St. Paul." Later on: Have heard nothing more, only the crews of the "Thornton" and " Carolina " are going to San Francisco to-day [? by] the steamer " St. Paul,'' except the captain and one man of each, but they took none of our crew. There are rumours afloat that the three schooners are to be laid up here all winter, and that we are going to be taken to Sitka, but no certainty. I wrote you this morning as the boat was leaving the wharf, thinking that she was going away, but she came to anchor in the Roads, and I do not think I finished it. I was afraid of being late. • We sent a protest on board the cutter against the action of the authorities in seizing the vessel on the high seas, but I do not know if it will amount to much. Tliere is no Notary Public • here [128] D ■1^ 18 toaign it. 1 have nothing more to write to you, trusting things will turn out better than wi exj^ect.. I remain, &c. (Signed) DANL. MUNROB. Inc!o8ure 5 in No. 7. Declarations of John Dalian, William Munsie, Thomas McLardy, and Edieard Shields. [See Inclosure 10 in No. 3.] Inclosure 6 in No. 7. Administrator Lord A. E. RuattU to Mr. iilHnhope, Septnnher 37, ISS6. [Substance of telegram of September 22. Sec Inclosure I in No. 3.] Inclosure 7 in No. 7. Administrator Lord A. E. Russell to Mr. Stanhope. My Lord, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Sfptemher 27, I8S6. I HAVE the honour to inclose herewith ii copy of an approved Minute of my Privy Council, to which is appended a Report by my Minister of .Murine iind Fisheries, upon which my telegram of the 22nd instant was founded, relative to the seizures of the Canadian schooners "Thornton," "Onward," and "Carolina" while enijagcd in the peaceable pursuit of their lawful occupation on the high seas. 2. It will be seen from this Report that the masters and mates of the above-mentioned vessels have been tried before the United States' District Court at Sitka, in Alaska, and sentences of imprisonment, in addition to heavy tines, imposed upon them, while their property has been subjected to forfeiture. 3. My Mioisturs are of opinion that the action of the United States' authorities with respect to these vessels is indelensible, and that immediate reparation should be demanded from the Govenimeut of thftt coantry therefor. I have, &o. Inclosure 8 in No. 7. Rtffirt of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Administrator of the Governimtit in Council, on the 24th September, 1886. THE Committee of the Privy Council have had before them the annexed Report from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries with rel'erence to the case of the Canadian schooners " Thornton," " Onward," and " Ci-it«:iiiM," seized on the 1st August last by the United' States' authorities in Behring's Sea. The Committee concur in the said Report, and they advise that the same be carried' out. All which is respectfully submitted for your ExceHenc3''8 approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. I .-.'if Inclosure 9 in No. 7. Report.. IN'refereace to a Report of Council, under date the 23rd September, referring to tli£ case of. the Canadian schooners "Thornton," "Onward," and " Carolina," seized on the Ifit Augurt by the United States' authorities in Behring's Sea^, the Undersigned has the, honour to lay before Council the foUowing additional information.. setter than INROB. Shivldg. 7, 18S0. ' my Privy lies, upon res of the cd in the mentioned ilaska, and while their jrities witlj demanded cellency the i6. leport from t schooners the United' ! be carried' EE, Council. It is stated in effect in " The AiuHkan," a newspaper publiahcd at Sitka, in th<; Territory "f Aia«i<a, and bearing dnte the 4tli September, 188G — 1 . That the niuKter un'l iriuto of tiie schooner " Thornton " were brou!;ht for trial before Jud^c l)aw»on in the United States' District Court at Sitka on the 30th August lust. 2. Tliat tlic evidence given by tlie otlicurs of tlie United States' Revenue cutter "Corwin" attempts to sliov/ that the "Thornton" was sei/.ed while in Bchring's Sea, about tJO or 70 miles soutii-south-east of St. Geor'fe's Island, for the offence of imnting and kiilinT seiiU within tl'.at part of Buhriiii;'s Sea which was ceded to the United States by Uussia in tB(»7. 3. Tliat tiic Judaic, in his clmrge to the jury, at'ter (juotins the 1st Article of the Treaty of tlio .'?(-th March, lH(i7, between Russia and tiic United States, in whicli the western l)ouii(iiuy of Aia.ska is defined, i,'oes on to say: "All the waters within the boundary set forlli in this Treaty to the western end of the Aleutian Archipelago and chain 'of islands arc to be considered as comprised witiiin the waters of Alaska, and all the penalties prescribed by law against the killing of fur-bearing animals must, therefore, attach a^iiinst any violation of law within the limits heretofore described. "If, therefore, the jury believe from the evidence that the defendants by themselves, or in c()njui\('tion with others, did, on or about the time charged in the intormation, kill ony otter, mink, marten, sable, or fur-seal, or other fur-bearing animal or animals, on the shores of Alaska, or in the Behring's Sea cast of the 193rd degree of west longitude, the jury should find the defendants guilty, and assess their punishment separately at a fine of not less than 200 dollars nor more than 1,000 dollars, or imprisonment not more than six months, or by both such fine, within the limits herein set forth, and imprisonment " •1. That the jurj' brought in a verdict of guilty against the prisoners, in accordance with which the master of the "Thornton," Hans (iuttounscn, was sentenced to imprison- ment for thirty days and to pay a fine of 500 dollars, and the mate of the "Thornton," Norman, was sentenced to imprisonment for thirty days and to pay a tine of 300 doUafS, w hich terms of imprisonment are presumably now being carried into effect. It also appears, bv telegraphic despatch from Nanaiino, British Columbia, dated the 18th September, that the masters and mates of the "Onward" and " Carolina" have since been tried and sentenced to undergo similar penalties to those being inflicted on the master anil mate of the " Thornton." It will appear from the above information, conjoined with the Report of Council under date the 23rd September, that the United States have determined to lay claim to the sole sovereignty of that part of Behring's Sea lying east of the westerly boundary of Alaska, as defined in the 1st Article of the Treaty made between the United States and Russia in 1867, by which Alaska was ceded to the United States, and which includes a stretch of sea extending in its widest part some (iOO or 700 miles ep^terly frona the main- land of Alaska. in pursuance of this claim, they have interfered with the peaceable and lawnful occupation of Canadian citizens on the high seas, have taken possession of their ships, have subjected their property to forfeiture, and visited upon their persons the indignity of imprisonment. They appear to have done this in spite of the admitted principles of international law, and in direct opposition to their own contention of what constitutes common waters upon the Atlantic coast. In view of the unwarranted and arbitrary action of the United States' authorities, the Undersigned recommends that a copy of this Report be sent to Her Majesty's Government to the end that immediate reparation be demanded from the Government of the United States, and that in the meantime the facts contained therein be telegraphed to the Secretary of State for the Colonies and to the British Minister at Washington. The whole respectfully submitted. Department of Fisheries, Canada, Qtiewtt, September 21, 188G. (Signed) GEORGE E. FOSTER, Minister of Marine and Fisheries. rring to the ized on the^ -signed has . f,!•^ii^, «.i»tf<vr.i;ji-;»ii^j,T-- J\r..j-,Yf^ : ri28] D 2 n 20 !! , . • No. 8. , ., ^ , , . The Earl of Iddesleigh to Sir L, West. — {Subs!, nee telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign O^ce, October 20, 1880. YOU have received from the Canadian Government a protest against the claim advanced by the United States' anthorities in seizing three Canadian schooners which were engaged in the capture of seals in what arc alleged to be Alaskan waters. I request that you will lose no time in protesting against these proceedings in the name of Her Majesty's Government; and you will at the same time reserve for con- sideration hereafter all rights to compensation which may be brought forward. Full instructions in regard to this matter will be sent to you by mail. I am, &c, (Signed) IDDESLEIGH. No. 9. The Earl of Iddesleigh to Sir L. West. Sir, Foreign Office, October 21, 1886. I HAVE to request you to inform me whether the United States' Government have replied to the communication which you were directed to make in my despatch of the 9th idtimo, regarding the seizure of British vessels in Behriog's Sea by a United States' Revenue cutter. If an answer has been received I should be glad to receive a report of the substance by telegraph. I should be glad at the same time to know whether any appeal has been lodged against the decisions of the United States' Courts condemning certain British subjects in connection with this matter. I am, &c. (Signed) IDDESLEIGH. i! i No. 10. Sir L. West to the Earl of Iddrsleigh. — (Received by telegraph, October 22.) My Lord, Washington, October 21, 188G. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of this day's date, I have the honour to inform your Lordship that no answer has as yet been leturned to the communication which, in obedience to the instructions contained in your Lordship's despatch of the 9th ultimo, I addressed to the Secretary of State, asking to be furnished with any particulars which the United States' Government may possess relative to the seizures of British vessels in Behring's Sea, and that I have at present no knowledge of any fippenl havmg been made against the decisions of the United States' Courts condemning the parties concerned. The above information was telegraphed to your Lordship this day. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. No. 11. Tlie Earl of Iddesleigh to Sir L. West. Sir, Foreign Office, October 30, 1886. HER Majesty's Government are still awaiting a Report on the result of the application which you were directed by my despatch of the 9th ultimo to make to the Government of the United States for information in regard to the reported seizure by the United States' Keveni.e cutter " Corwin " of three Cancdiar schooners while engaged in the pursuit of seals in Behring's Sea. In the meanwhile, further details in regard to these seizures have been sent to 31 this country, and Her Majesty's Government now consider it incumbent on them to bring to the notice of the United States' Government the facts of thf) ease as they have reached them from British sources. It appears that the three schooners, named respectively the "Carolina," the "Onward," and the "Thornton," were fitted out in Victoria, British Columbia, for the capture of seals in the waters of the Northern Pacific Ocean, adjacent to Va.'couver's Island, Queen Charlotte Islands, and Alaska. According to the depositions inclosed herewith from some of the officers and men,* these vessels were engaged in the capture of seals in the open sea out of sight of land, when they were taken possession of on or nbout the 1st August last by the United States' Revenue cutter " Corwin," the "Carolina," in latitude 5.5° &2' north, longitude 168° 53' west, the " Onward " in latitude 50° 52' north, longitude 167° 55' west, and the "Thornton " in about the same latitude and longitude. They were all at a distance of more than 60 miles from the nearest land at the time of their seizure, and on being captured were towed by the " Corwin " to Ounalaska, where they are still detained. The crews of the " Carolina " and ' Thornton," with the exception of the captain and one man on each vessel detained at that port, were, it appears, sent by the steamer " St. Paul " to San Francisco. California, and tiien turned adrift, while the crew of the " Onward " were kept at Ounalaska. At the time of their seizure the " Carolina " had 686 seal-skins on board, the " Thornton " 404, and the " Onward " 900, and these were detained, and would appear to bo still kept at Ounalaska along with the schooners by the United States' authorities. According to information given m the " Alaskan," a news])aper published at Sitka, in the Territory of Alaska, and dated the 4th September, 1S86, it is reported : — 1. That the master and mate of the schooner " Thornton " were brought for trial before Judge Dawson in the United States' District Court at Sitka on the 30th August last. 2. That the evidence given by the officers of the United States' Revenue cutter " Corwin " went to show that the " Thornton " was seized while in Behring's Sea, about 60 or 70 miles south-south-east of St. George Island, for the offence of hunting and killing seals within that part of Behring's Sea which (it v.as alleged by the "Alaskan " newspaper) was ceded to the United States by Russia in 1867. 3. That the Judge in his charge to the jury, after quoting the 1st Article of the Treaty of the 30th •^1arch, 1867, between Russia and the United States, in which the western boundary of Alaska is defined, went on to say : " All the waters within the boundary set forth in this Treaty to tlie western end of the Aleutian Archipelago and chain of islands are to he considered as comprised within the waters of Alaska, and all the penalties prescribed by law against the killing of fur-bearing animals must therefore attach against any violation of law within the limits heretofore described. If, therefore, the jury believe from the evidence that the defendants, by tlKinselves or in conjunction with others, did, on or about the time charged in the information, kill any oti'^r, mink, marten, sable, or fur-seal, or other fur-'^earing animal or animals, on the shores of Alaska or in the Behring's Sea cast of 19,3° of west longitude, the jury should find the defendants guilty, and assess Mieir punishm'Mit separatel!)', at a fine of not less than 200 dollars nor more than l.OOv/ dollary-, or i'linrisonment not more than six months, or by both such fine, within the limits herein set forth, and imprisonment." 4. That the jury brought in a verdict of guilty against the prisoners, in accordance with which the master of the " Thornton," Hans Guttounsen, was sentenced to imprison- ment for thirty days and to pay a fine of .^OO dollars, and the mate of the "Thornton," Norman, was sentenced to imprisonment for thirty days and to pay a fine of 300 dollars, which terms of imprisonment are presumably now being car' ied into effect. There is also reason to believe that the masters and mates of the " Onward " and " Carolina " have since been tried, and sentenced to undergo penalties similar to those now being inflicted on the master and mate of the " Thornton." You will observe, from the facts given above, that the authorities of the United States appear to lay claim to the sole sovereignty of t at part of Behring's Sea lying east of the westerly boundary of Alaska, as defined in the 1st Article of the' Treaty concluded between the United States and Russia in 1867, by which Alaska was ceded to the United States, and • I. Copy of n Istter frcm Daniel Miinroc, master if the Canadian Bcaliiig schooner " Onward." 2. Copy of a letter from James Ogilvie, mastor of the Oanadinn peahnjf schooner " Carolina." 3. Deposition of John Dallas, :iean)an on board the *' I'liornton ; " of Thomas McLardy, cook on board the " Carnlina ; " of Kdwaril Shields, kcaman on board tbo " '!«rolinn ; " and of Wm. Munsie, owner of the " Carolina ; " all of the Province of British Columbia. • I. .1. •,ji.\,k: V il. * ^rhich includes a stretch of sea exteading in its widest ruit joine 600 or 700 miles easterly from the mainland of Alasivu. In support nf this claim, those huthorities are alleged to have interfered with the jieaceable and luwi'ul ccupation of Canadian citizens on the high seas, to have taken possession of their ships, to have subjected their property to forteiture, and to have visited upon their j)ersons the indignity of imprisonment. Sucii proceedings, ii' correctly reported, would appear to have been in violation of the admitted principles of iuturuutionni law. 1 recjuest tliat juti will, on the receipt of this despatch, seek an interview with Ml. Bayard and make him ac({uainted with the nature of the information witli which Her Majesty's Government have been furnished respecting this matter, und state to him that they do not doubt tliat, if on incjuiiy it should prove to be correct, the Government of the United States will, with their well-known sense of justice, at once admit the iliegality of tiie proceedings resorted to against the British vessels and the British subjects above mentioned, and will cause reasonable reparation to be made for the wrongs to which they have been subjected, and for the losses which tliey have sustained. Sliouid Mr. Bayard desire it, you are authorized to leave with him a copy ot this despatch. I am, &c. (Signed) IDDESLEIGH. :^ No. Ii Sir L. ]Vest to the Earl of Iddexleii/h. — (Received November I .) My 1-ord, IVanhiixjton, October 21, 188G. UPON the receipt of your Lordship's despatch of the lUh ultimo I inunediately addressed a note to tiie Secretary of State, in accordance with tlie instructions therein contained, and copy of which is herewith inclosed, requesting to bo furnished with any particulars which the United States' Government may possess relative to the seizure of certain British Columbian seal schooner;! by the United States' Revenue cruizer "Corwin," but to which I have received no reply. Ujion the i-eceipt of your Loi'dship's telegram of yesterday's date I addressed the note copy of which is likewise inclosed, protesting, in the name of Her Majesty's Government, against the said seizures, and i-eserving rights to compensation. I have, &c. (Signed) J.. S. S.^CKVILLE WEST. Inclosure 1 in No. 12. 6ir L. West to Mr. Bayard. Sir, Washiniflon, September 27, 1886. 1 HAVE the honou;- to intorm you that Her Majesty's Governuienc have received a telegram from the Commander-in-chief of Her Majesty's naval forces on Jie Pacific Station respecting the alleged seizure of ihrec British Columbian seal schooners by the United States' Revenue cruizer "Covwiu;" and I am, in consequence, instructed to request to be furnished with any particulars which the United States' Government may possess relative to tliis occurrence. I have, &i:. I (Signeii, L. S. SACKVIl.LE WEST. i M '1-^^ % Inclosure 2 in No. 12. Sir L. West to Mr. Bayard. Sir, W^'hlnii'-n Orloher 21, ]SSiK ^VIT1I reference to my note of the 27t,h idtimo, requeeticii; '. be furnished with any particulars which the United States* Governn;.nt ma. assess relative to the seizure in the North Pacific waters of three British Columb un scui schooners by the ss liles easterly ed with tiie .,;^ have taken liiive visited ation of the erview with witli which _ -•-.-. nd state to /^P^ oonect, tile ice, at oiico els and tiic m )e made for 3 tlicy have i opy ot tlus SLEIGH. ■| United States' Revenue cruiser " Corwin," and to which I am without reply, I have the honour to infonn you that I am now instructed by the £art o( Iddesieigb, Hfir Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, to protest, in the- name of Her Majesty's Government, against such seizure, and to reserve all rights to oonipen' sation. I have. Sic. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. No. 13. Admiralty to Foreign Office. — lleceived November 5) ' (Extract.) Admiralty, November 4, 1836. REFERRING to my letter of the 20th September last and to previous correspondence; r am commanded by my Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty to transmit herewith, far the perusal of the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, cuttings from a newspaper called: the " Daily British Colonist," at Victoria, sealing schooners in Behring's Sea. respecting the seizure of Britith Goluuibian' Jnclosure in No. 13. 2\, 188G. immediately ionb therein ;d witii any ; seizure of " Corwin," dressed the Majesty's 1 WEST. , 1886. ive received lie Pacific iii'rs by the structcd to iineiit iiiav WEST. i\, ISSO. lisheu with ive to the ners bv the Sxtract from the " Daily British Colonist" Victoria, of October 7, 1886. (From the " Brooklyn Eagle.") Thb Alaska SKi7.UHEa. — The recent seizure of vessels in Behring's Sea by the United States' Revenue steamer " Corwin," for the alleged illegai capture of senls in the waters of the Unitetl States, has attracted a surprisingly small amount of attention, in this quarter at least. This is probably due to the fact that the Cabinet has not had a meeting for some time, and that but one Cabinet Minister remained in Washington, so that there was a lack of information on the subject, which was unfavourable to its discussion. Now, however, we have something like at. official Report of what has taken place from the Captain of the "• Corwin," and the matter is ripe for the attention of the press of the United States. No one who "jives the subject bis notice can fail to recognize the lact that it is one of the most important questions this Governme'^t was ever called upon to discuss, and that it may involve consequences of the highest moment. The Captain of the "Corwin," it appears, was acting under positive instructions received at San Francisco, commanding him to seize and deliver to the United States' District Court of Akska, for condemnation and seizure, all vessels found ensjaged in the capture of seals within Alaskan waters, which were defined to include all of Behring's Sea east of the line from Behring's Strait to a point west of the moft western of the Aleutian Islands. Under this interpretation a vessel might be more than 500 miles- from tho mainland oC America, and still a trespasser in Alaskan waters, and therefore iiable to seizure. The complaints which led to the issuing of these instructions came irom the Alaska Fur Seal Company, who leas' the seal fisheries <'rom the Government for the payment of 317,000 do'.!irs annually. The vessels captuted were six in nunibcT, three of them being described as British, one American from San Francisco, but the nr.tionality of the other tv/o is not given. It is not pretended that any of them was wu;.;.. .. marine "league of the shore ; in fact, the only itish schooner I miles south- bring her 160 miles from the chain of the Aleutian Islands, and 300 from the nearest point of the mainland. The captured schooners were taken to Oonalaska, where they were libelled for cendfcmnation, and their crews were conveyed to Sitka, where the masters and mates, in addition to the loss of their vessels, were tried before Judge Dawson, and fined and impmooed. In the case of the "Thornton," the captain was fined .^OO dollars. Judgo Dawson, in passing sentence, was very severe on the prisoners, and likened their oftenoe to piracy, telling them that they had no more right to go into the waters of another nation ta interfere with its industries than they had to go upon another man's land and appropriate his o-op», Judge Dawson, although only a District Judge* considers that his ju»i«diction ! ^i- I PC 24 cTEtends over the whole of the waters of Alaska, compiising about 1,000,000 square miles of what would elsewhere be regarded as the high seas, so that he may safely be regarded as the greatest maritime Judge extant. If it should be reported son.a days in the papers that a Gloucester fishermen had been captured by a Canadian eruizer ."iOO miles off the coast of Nova Scotia, and that her master and mate, in addition to the loss of their vessel, had been heavily fined, and were tlien languishing in a Canadian prison, there would probably be some indignation in New England. Yet that, as rerrards the maritime aspect of the case, is substantially what the Alaskan seizures amount to. It is maintained, however, that the circumstances of these cases are modified by the fact thai llussia claimed the whole Bchring's Sea as part of iier territory, and that tiie waters J.uinied by this Government were ceded as part of Alaska. Judge Dawson is reported to have said on this point tiiat Russia had claimed and exercised jurisdiction over all that jwrtion of Beln-iiig's Sea embraced in the boundary-line set forth in the Treaty, and that claim had been tacitly recognized and acquiesced m by the other Maritime Powers of the world for a long series of years prior to the Treaty of the 30th March, 1867. Me held that the jurisdiction had been transferred, and that the United States had acquired absolute control and dominion over the area described in the Treaty, and that British vessels, manned by British subjects, had no right to navigate the waters for the purpose of killing fur-bearing seds. If this is good law, that is the end of the matter; but is it good law? Unless we are greatly in error, there are copies of despatches ;bo files of the State Department, written prior to 1SG7, in which the Russian clai. . Mict'.y repudiated and denied. Ciicunistances may have changed since then as i. attitude towards the subject, but the principle has not. And we doubt greatly whet' ;• the United States would ever have admittec' si".;;h a claim if made by anotlier nation. What would be said, for instance, if the British undertook to prevent an American whaler from entering Hudson Bay or traversing the western half of that arm of the Atlantic Ocean which leads to it .' Maritime law and international law are the same whether on the Atlantic or the Pacific, and there is certainly something grotesque in the sight of hundreds of American fishermen hovering on the Canadian Atlantic coast just beyond the 3-mile limit, and claiming to enter all bays more than 3 miles wide at the mouth and fish, while, on the Pacific, Canadian vessels are captured 300 miles from the mainland, and the claim is made that a bay more than 1,000 miles wide at the mouth shall be a closed sea to them. There is another aspect to the case, not international but national. One of the vessels captured was an American schooner from San Francisco. All other American vessels, excejjt those of the Alaska Seal Fur Company, are therefore excluded from these waters, which arc claimed as belonging to Alaska. Is there any warrant for this in the Constitution of the United States? It has been the evil policy ol' the nation to give np the whole Tcr.itory of Alaska to one gignntic monopoly, to discourage settleraent and all legitimate enter()rises not connected with the fur trade. Is this policy to be continued t It surely was not for this purpose that the territory was bought, but that its resources might be developed, and such parts of it as are suitable for settlement opened to industrious workers. Jiut for nineteen years Alaska has been nothing but the reserve of a great Corporation, which is even now scheming to obtain a renewal of its franeiiises there. The matter is one of tiio greatest interest and importance to the American people, who are not desirous of establishing monopolies in Alaska or elsewhere, but wish to see all their territory opened up and made available for the use of all our citizens. No. 14. •■ Messrs. Lampson and Co. to (he Earl of Idilesleiylt. — [Received November 13.) My Lord, G4, Queen Street, London, November 12, 188G. WE understand a question of international law has arisen between the Government of the United States on the one hand and the (iovernments of Great Britain and of the Dominion of Canada on the other hand, respecting the seizure by the United States' Revenue cutter " Corwin" of certain Dominion tishmg-vessels engaged in capturing fur- seals in the waters of Alaska. As the future existence of the fur-seal skin trade, in which we have for years past been engaged, largely depends upon the settlement of this question, we beg to submit, for your consideration, the following facts :— lermcii had md tl)ut her d, and wpre tion in New lly what the ;es of these part of her t of Alaska, lid exercised inc set forth ly tlie otlier .aty of the lid that tiie •ibed in the navigate the s the end of •e copies of I which the ive changed )t. And we n if made by 3 }>rcvent an that arm of are the same escjue in the ; just beyond : mouth and ainland, und be a closed |f the vessels can vessels, lese waters, this in the :ion to give ticcient and icy to be it, but that settlement nothing but 1 a renewal aiico to the r elsewhere, of all our tR ' ' ' Situated in the waters of Alaska, latitude 57° nortli, longitude 170* west, is the Pribylov group of islands, belonging to the United States. Tliese islands, which are occupied every year from May to October by a large number of fur-seals for the purpose of breeding, have been leased to an American Company, under stringent conditions, which restrict tlicin from killing more than 100,000 young males per annum, and strictly prohibit them from killing any female seals whatever. The fur-seal being a polygamous animal, the annual increase is not aifected by the killicg of this limited number of young males ; and it has been found that the wise nursing by these means of this very important fishery has not only resulted in the jireservation of the seals during the past sixteen years, but has also given an ample supply of skins for purposes of trade. During the last few seasons, hcsvever, lishing-vesscls have been fitted out from ports in British Columbia and the United States, and have been engaged in the wholesale slaughter of female seals, which, during the breeding season, swarm in the waters round the islands for a considerable distance out to sea. Last summer several of the Dominion vessels were seized by the United States' cutter, and it is stated that a case is being prepared by the Doii'.inion Government, for presentation to the United States' Government, disputing tlie legality of the said captures. Should Great Britain deny the right of tlie United States' Govuniment to protect the fishery in an efi'ectual manner, there can be no doubt that the Alaska fur-seals, which furnish by far the most important part of the world's supply of seal-skins, will be exterminated in a very lev yerrs, just as in the South Atlantic the Siietland and Georgia fur-seals, which used to furnish even finer jielts than the Alaskas, have already been. It is evident, therefore, that the benefit derived by the Dominion fishing-vessels from the slaughter of tliese female seals will be short-lived. We wdiild iic'^t point out that the 100,000 skins, the annual produce of the islands (worth .'J.^O.OOO.' at present prices), have been shipped to us for sale and manufacture in London foi- sixteen years past, thus affording in this city employment for a lurje amount of capital and means of subsistence to some 10,000 people, many of whom arc skilled workmen earning wages up to 3/. per week. We need, therefore, hardly suggest that it would be a shortsighted and disastrous policy to allow such an industry to be destroyed, especially at a time when so much distress is already prevalent among the working classes. We therefore earnestly trust the British Government will, after verifying the above facts, see its way to give its friendly support to the United States in the exercise of their right to protect and preserve an article of commerce equally afltcting the interests of both countries. We have telegraphed to New York ibr the " Monograph of the Seal Islands,'' by Professor Elliott, which fully describes the seal life upon the islands. When we have received the book we shall have the pleasure of handing it to your Lordship. We are, &c. (Signed) C. M. LAMPSON and Co, No. 15. 12, 1886. Jovcrnment and of the ted States' (turing fur* Cnloniul Ojflif to Foreiyn Office. — (Recehed November 16.) Sir, Downiiiy Utreel, 2\ovember 10, 1830. WITH reference to previous correspondence, 1 am directed by Mr. Secretary Stanhope to transmit to you, to be laid before tlie Earl of Iddesleigh, a telegram which has been received from the Governor-General of Canada respecting the iVhiska seizures; and I am to request to be informed of the answer which should be returned to J^ord Lansdowne's inquiry. I am, &C. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. [128] 1! Inclosure in No. 16. The Marquis of Lansdowne to Mr. Stunhopc. (Telegraphic.) Ottawa, November 14. 1886. ALASKA siei/uie!<. Has any answer bucn received to representations? Papets will be sent you proving tliat the case is one of great, hardship, and that a total disresjard oC international rights has been shown by the action o( the United States. We believe the rnasters of the vessels ad- still in prison. No. It). The Earl of Idfle.sleigh to Sir L. iVest. Sir, Foreign Office, November 18, 1886. I HAVI] to inform you that inquiry has been made by tiie Government of Canada as to what reply has been received from the Government of the United States to the representations which, as reported in your telegram of the 21st October, yoti hitd made to them in I'egard to the seizure of tlu'ce schooners from British Columbia by the Uhited States' (Revenue cruizer "Corwin" in Bchring's Sea. Lord Lansdf)wne reports tiiat it is believed that the captains of these vessels are still in prison, and that documents will be sent to tliis country proving that the case is oiiO of great liardsiiij], and that a total disregard of international rights has been shown in the action of the authorities of tlie United States. I have, in consequence, sent you a telegram this day requesting you to report how this case now stands. I am, &c. (Signed) IDDESLEIGH. No.. 17. Sir L. H'csl to th" Earl of tddesleigh. — {Received by telegraph, November 19.) My Lord, Washington, November 19, 1886. UPON the receipt of your Lordship's telegram of yesterday's date I sought an interview with the Secretary of State, and asked him whether he had received the official Report of the proceedings of the Court at Sitka (Alaska) against the British vessels seized in Behring's Sea. Mr. Bayard replied in the negative, and said that he ha<l been urging the Attorney-General in the matter since he last saw me. It would be, he continued, a complicated (luestion of jurisdiction, for he had been told that many of the seal-skins found on board the British vessel* were skins of seals which had not been shot, but clubbed, which proved that a landing ..ad been effected. He said that he would reply to your Lordship's despatch which I had communicated to him as soon as possible. 1 have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLK WEST. No. 18. Foreign Office to Messrs, Lampson and Co, Gentlemen, Foreign Office, November 19, 18fii6.. I AM directed by the Earl of Iddesleigh to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the I'itb instant, relative to the seizure of certain British-owned seal-fishing vessels by the United States' Revenue cutter "Corwin," in the waters of Alaska; and 1 am to inform you, in reply, that the question is now under the consideration of Her Maje.sty's Government. 1 am, Ike. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Mv Lord, No. 19. Sir L. West to the Earl of Iddesleigh. — {Received Nov.'mber 26.) IVanhhif/ton, November 14, 1886. WITH rclcrence to niv despatch of tlie 21st nitiiiio, 1 have the honour to inclose to your Li)rds|iij) liercv.ith copy of a note wjijch ) huve received froni tjie Secretary of State, exiil.iininp; and apologizing for the delay which has oc( urred in replying to my note of the 21st September last, asking for inforniution respectini^ the seizure by the United States' Revenue cutter " Corwin,'' in the Behring's Sea, ol' Britisji vessels, and noting the protest on the part of Her Majesty's Government against such seizures contained in my nolo of the 2lst uitimo, copy of which was incjosed in my above- mentioned despatch. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVI^LE WEST. Inclosure \n No. 19. Mr. Bayard to Sir L. West. Sir, Department of State, November 12, 1886. TUPj dehiy in my reply to your letters of \lic 27th September and 21st October, askinsj; for the information 'iii my possession concerning the seizure by the United States' Revenue cutter ''Corwin," in the Bchiing's Sea, of Britisii vessels for an alleged violation of the law^ of the United States in relation to the Alaska seal fisheries, has been caused by my waiting to receive from the Treasury Department the information ^ou desired. I tender this fact in apology for (he delay and as the reason for my silence; and, repeating what 1 said verbally to you in our conversation this morning, I am still awaiting full and authentic RepoVts of the judicial trial and Judgment in the cases of the seizures referred to. My application to my colleague the Attorney-General to procure an authentic Report of these i)roceedings was promptly made, and the delay in furnishing the Report doubtless has arisen from the remoteness of the place of trial. As Soon as I am enabled, I will convey to you the (acts as ascertained in the trial, and the rulings of law as applied by the Court. I tnke leave also to acknowledge your comiuunication of the 2lst October, informing me that you had been instructed by the Karl of Iddesleigh, Her -Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Atfairs, to protest against the seizure of the vessels above referred to, and to reserve all rights of compensation. All of which shall receive respectful consideration. I have, &c. (Signed) T. F. BAYARD. No. 2n. The Earl of Iddesleigh to Sir L. West. (Te)e^aiii)hic.) Foreign Office, December 6, 1886. CANADIAN Government in(|uire whether vessels equipping in British Columbia for Behrlng'> Sea tjsheries are e.xposcd to scizuro. 'r|iey !-ee|< assiiranee thi.t no seizures of British vessels wjj( be made {leyond territorial watq-.s of .)laska pending settlement of question. No. 21. Sir I.. West to the Earl of Iddesleigh. — {Received December 2^.) (Pxtriict.) ^ Washington, December 10, 188^. I IIA\ K tlie honour to aeknowIiMlgo the receipt ot your Lordship*s telegram of the ijth inst'int, and to inclose lo your Lordship herewith copy of a note whfch I addressed til the .''•'ecretarv of State in the sense of it. [128] '<'-'.' ; 6 I 96 Inclosure in No. 2 1 . Sir L, West to Mr. Bayard. Sir, Waahiiujton, December 7, 1B86. REFERRING to your note of tiiel2th ultimo on the subject ot'tlio seizure of British vessels iu the JJeliring's Sea, and promising to convey to nic as soon as possible the facts as ascertained in the trial and the rulini^s of law as applied by the Court, 1 have the honour to state that vessels are now as usual ecjuipping in British Ci)lunibia for fishing in that sea. The Canadian (iovornnient, therefore, in the ahM!iie(! of information, are desirous of ascertaining whether such vessels fishing in the open seas and beyond the territorial waters of Alaska would be exposed to seizure, and Her Aliijesty's Government at the same time would be glad if some assurance could be given that, pending the settlement of the question, no such seizures of British vessels will be made in Behring'si Sea. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WKST. Fo. 22. Colonial Office to Foreign Office, — {Received January 5.) Sii, Downing Street, January 4, 1887. WITH reference to previous correspondence respecting the seizure by the United States' Revenue-steamer "Corwin" of certain Canadian schooners engaged in the seal fishery in Behring's Sea, I am directed by Mr. Secretary Stanhope to transmit to you, 'or such further action in the matter as the Earl of Iddesleigh may think proper, a copy of n despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, inclosing copy of an approved Report of his Privy Council, explaining the views of the Dominion Government in the matter. Mr. Slaidiope would be glad to receive a copy of any communication which Lord Iddesleigh may address to the United States' Government in consequence of this further representation from the Government of Canada on the subject. i am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. :»! I Inclosure 1 in No. 22. The Murquin of Lansduwiii' lo Mr, Slanliopi; Sir, Government House, Ottawa, November 27, 1886. I HAVE the honour to inelose hon!W ith copy of an approved Jlej)ort of my Privy Council dealing with the i-cjceut seizure of the Canadian sehoonors "Caroline," "Onward," and " Thornton '' by the United States' Revenue steamer "Corwin " Avhile fishing for seals in Behring's Sea. The statements contained in the Report are siilUcient to establish that the claim now put forward on the part of the United States to the sole riiflit of taking fur- bearing animals within the limits laid down in the 1st Artieh' of the Treaty of 1807 is inconsistent with the riiihts secured to (ireat Britain under the Convention of 1825, and is in substance the same as that which, when advanced by tbe Russian Govern- ment on (litl'erent occasions prior to tin* cession of Alaska by Russia to the United States, v.as either strenuously resisted or treated with ridicule and ccmtempt by the Gover.mient of the latter Power. It is iinpossibh? to believe that, when by the Ce.ivention of 1825 it was agreed that the subjects of Great Britain, as inie of the Contracting I'arties, should not be " troubled or molested in any part of the ocean commonly called the Pacific Ocean, either in navigating the .sjime or in fishiny' therein," any reservati(ni was intended with regard to that j)art of the Paeilic Ocean known as Behring's Sea. The whole coui-se of the negotiations by which this Convention and that betiween Russia and the United States of the same year w(>r<^ ])reee(led— negotiations which, as j)ointed out in the Report, aro.ie out of conflicting claims to these very waters -points to the contrary conclusion. It would, indeed, be difficult to condemn the present pretensions of the » r1, 1886. re of British l)lc the facts , I linve the or tishing in mation, are hcyoml the Government pending the in Beliring'v i WEST. / 4, 1887. the United 1 in the seal mit to you, Dper, a copy n approved ment in the which Lord this lurther .MSTOJf. 27, 1880. )f mv Privv " CiU'oIine,'" win " while it tho claim takius^ I'ur- y of 18G7 is on of 1825, iaii Govcrn- th(! United nipt by the was agreed juld not b»i 3itic Ocean, tended witli le course of the United out in the he contrary 3ioris of the United States' authorities in languiigi' more eonviiieiny; or cmpliatie tiian that whieli. whih' tiiose negotiations were in progress, was used by Mr. MicUlieton, then Russian Minister at St. I'etersburgh, in liis Memoraiulum dated the 1.3th December, 182.3. ( Fjrfe American State i'apers, Foreign Rehitions, vol. v. No. .'JHt.) It is laid down in that Memorandum tiiat " tlie existence ol" territorial rights to the distance of 100 miles from the coasts upon two opi)osite continents, and the proliil)iti()n of apin'oaeliing to tiie same distaiu'c from tiiese coasts or horn those of all tlie intervening islands, are innovations in the lawof nations and measures unexami)h.'d. It must tints be imngined that Ibis ))roliibiti<>n, bearing the |iaiiis of eontiseation, applies to a long line' of coasts witli tlie interMiediat<' islands, situate in vast seas wlit^re the navigation is subject to iniuuiierai)h' and unknown (lillieuUies, and where the chief employment, which is the whale lishery, cannot be compatible with a regulated and well-determined course." Mr. Middh'ton added that: '" Universal usage, which has obtained the force of law, has established for all the coasts an accessory limit of a moderatt! distance, which is sufficient for the security of tlie country and for the commerce of its inhabitants, but which lays no r<>straint upon the universal rights of nations, nor upon the freedom of commerce and navigjition." Under the Treaty of 18(17 Hussia ceded to tin; Unit(«l States "all the rights, franchises, and privih'ges " then belonging to her in the territory or dominion included within the limits described {ride Article VI), but could not (lede a right which, in the express terms of the 'freaty of 1^25. Mas recognized as belonging to th(! subjects of the British Urown as well as to those of Kussia. This is, as far as 1 have be<'n able to ascertain, the first occasion upon which claims of the kind now advanced have been enforced. Sealing.v<!ssel.s from British Columbia have lor some yc.irs- j)ast fre(|uented the waters of Behring's Sea without molestation, and a l(>tter, of wliicii I inclose a copy, addressed by Mr. William Munsie, of Victoria, Britisli Colunii)iii, to my Minister of Marino and Eisheries, shows bow serious will be tlie effect of this interl('i(Mie(.' upon a well-establishe<l and important industry in whi(!h many British subjects iiave a substantial interest. It is, I think, worth while to contrast the claims now urged by the Government of the United States to «'xclusive control over a part of the Pacific Ocean, the distance between the shores oi" which is, as was pointed out by Mr. Adams in 1822, not less than i,000 miles, with tin; indignant remonstrances recently made by Mr. Bayard against the action of the Canadian authorities in warning Unit<'d States' fishing-vessels from entering the territor-iai wnters of the Dominion at points where those wati^rs were only a few miles in width and throughout their whole exttnit in close proximity to Canadian territory. A warning of this kind, when given in respect of thcBay'des Chaleurs, which measures about 18 miles at its mouth, was stigmatized by Mr. Bayard hi his despatch of the lltli June, 1886, as a " wholly unwarranted pvetcmsion of extra- territorial autliority," and as an " interference with the unquestionable rights of the American fishermen to pursue their business without molestation at any point not within 3 marine miles of the shore." I would also draw your attention specially to the great liardship occasioned to the owners and crows of the seized vessels by the confiscation of their catch and by the imprisonment of some of the pmsons on board of them. I understand that, owing to the amount of the fines imposed, which were so heavy that the oAviiers have declined to pay them, the captains and mates of the seized vcssids, though originally sentenced to thirty days' imprisonment, a term which has long since expired, are still detained. I may add, in explanation of the concluding passage in Mr. Munsie's letter, that Mr. Ogilvie, the cai)tain of the "Caroline," while waiting at Ounalaska for the trial of his vessel, wandered olf into the M-oods, in which it appears, from Mr. .Munsie's statement, that he must have perished. I have, &c. (Signed) LANSDOWNE. Inclosure 2 in No. 22. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council for Canada, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council on November 27, 1880. THE Committee of the Privy Council have aad under consideration a communi- cation from Mr. I-;. C. Baker, M.P., Vice-President of the British Columbia Board of Trade, transmitting a letter from Mr. Theodore Lubbe, the managing owner of the ■!■ 30 'I British Columbia spalingr fleet, nskitig inloimation as to the United States' claim to the easterly half of J1eliiiii>i's Scm; as American waters, and also a desjiatcli, dated tjie :;((fh Auf,'iist last, j'roiii the Licminaiit-tiuveniDr ol .|irilisli Culiiinhia, advisiiifj of tjio sfi/inv of the (Jaiiadiaii schooners "Caroliiic" and " Thornton." by the United States' WcvcMne steamer •' Corwin," while entjai^ed in sralin;^ in JJchring's Sea. .\)si> oopj of a h^tler irom l)aniei .Miinroi;, niasier of t|ie Canadian scaling sehooner •'Onward," wlucii h.is ixni already i'orwanli'd by his jixecllcnc-- the tiovei aor.Ci<!iM;ral to the (..'oloniai Olliee, and to Her .Majesty's Alini.ster ;.t Washjii^ton. 'I'iu! Snh-(!oinnuttee of CoMneil, to whom ihe papers were referred, ol)serve I lu ^ it a])pe;irs that tiic schooners mentioned wen; Canadian vessels litted out for the capture of seals in the N'orlh Pacific Ocean adjacent to \'ancouv<'r Island, (.^neen Charlotte Island, and Alaska; that they Wi-re peaceably pursuini;' their vocations on t)ie hii;ii seas at a distance of some 70 miles from the nearest island, and mcn-e than 100 miles from the nearest mainland ; tlitit tluiy were taken possession of by the United States' Itevenne cutter -'('(n'win" on the 1st An^ust last, and towed to tlie port of Ounalaska. 'J'he crews of the "Thornton" and " C.-vroline " (with the e.veeption o\' t)ie captain and one man on each vessel, who were detained at Ounalas)<:a), were sent ))y steamer to .San Trancisco, and tlicn; lurned adrji't, whi(e the men of the" Onwar(| " were kept at Ounalaska. Tlie schooners and the seals found on board of them were ajsp detained \)\ the United States' aulhoritics. The authority under Avjiich these scjizures were njade is apparently :— 1. A h-fter of instructions from the Actintj Secretrry of the Treasury of the United States to i)r. D'Ancona, the Collector of Customs at San iVanejsco, dati.'d the 12th .March, LSSl. with inclosurcs (A of Appendix). 2. A letter from the Secr<'taiy of the fnited States' Treasury to the Collector of Customs at San I'^ancisco, dale;! the ilith Mareli, i^bii, c(nili;iiiins^ the instructions given to Mr. l)"Aneona in |S">1. and ordermg publication of the same (B of Appendix). ;}. 'jlie Uevised Statutes of the United States, the ISlKJth Section of which prohibjts theJ^Killi;>!A' of fur-bearing animals within liie limits of Alaska Territory, or in tlie waters thereof, and Sections lUdi' and lU(il of which ])rohihit the killing of male seals, cxcej)t at cer)-ain times, and uni|er ('(M'tain rcsi fictions, and of I'emali! seals at any time, )ipou the Islands of St. j'anl and St. (ieorge, or in tlic waters adjacent thereto. 'J'JM' master and maU; of the sclmone;- "Thornton" were subsc(iuently (the ;).(}th An^i'iist last) )n'oug)it for trial before Jud:;e pawson, in the United States' pistrict Court at Sitka. T')ie evidence given by the ollicers of the United States' llcvenuo cutter " Corwin" was |o the cll'eet )liat the " ThoiiUon "' was seizecl wliile in |k'hring's Sea, about CO or 70 nijlfs sout|i-south-cast of St. (ieorge's jslancj, for the oirence of hunting and kiljing sea|s wilhin that pavt of ]ie)iring's Sea Avhicli was ce(Jed to th(> Unite4 States by ^i^ssja in JS(i7. 'J?he .Judge in his charge to the jury qiu^ted tjie fst Article of the Treaty of the 30th ]\lareli, 1807, between llussia and the Uniteij States, jn which tjie boundary of Alaska is ftefined as follows : — "'I'he western Hniit, witjijn which fhc territories an4 dominion conveyed are (Contained, passes through a [loinf in Beliring's Straits on the parallel of 05° 30' nortji latitude, at its interscctioji by the meridian which passes midway between the ^sland qi' ^'.usenstern or Iguahxdc and the Islancj. of Itatmanolf or Noonarbook, and proceeds fine nort)i, without limitation, into t]n' sann; Frozen Ocean. The same western limit, |ieginning al the same initial point, proceeds then in a straight course nearly south- west fhrough Beliring's Straits and J5ehring's Scni, so as to pass mjdway between the noi'th-Avest point of the Island of St. Uawrence and th<' south-east point of Cape C|ioukol' ki, to the meridian o!'17::'" we^t longitude, thence^ from tlii' iatersection of that meridian in a south-westerly direction, so as to pass midway between the Island of Atton and the Copper island of the Jvorinandorski cou])let or group, in the North Pacific (Jcean, to the meridian of 103" west longitude, so as to include in the territory convey ( d ilie \\liole of the Aleutian Islands east of that meridian." Executive Docunu nts. 2nd Session. tOth Congress, vol. xiii, document 177. The dudge is reported to have gone on to say: — '■ All the waters Avithin the boundary set forth in this Treaty to the western end of the Aleutian Archipel-igo and chain of island, are to be considered as comprised within the waters of Alaska, and all the penalties prescribed by law against the jfilling of fur-b<'aring animals, must therefore attach agaiiist any violatioi^ of law witlun t)ie |imjt« before descri|)ed. '- , - ■ , SI "If, thiToforc, tlio jury h(>li<'V(' from the cvidcfiico that tho dofcndnnfs did b^ theinsclvi''* or in conjiiiiction with otiicrs, oil or about the timo ehurRcd in the iiiformatioii, kill iiiiy odcr. mink, miii-fin. sablo, or fiir-soHl, or otliiT fur-bcarlnj' animal or animals, on tlic shores of Alaska, or in the Mchrini^'s Sea, cast oC the i'Mf of •Wfst loni<itudo, tli<' jury slionld (bid the defendants n'liilty.and assi-ss (heir pnnisliment separately, at a fnit' of not hvss than 2(H) dollarn, n(U' more than l.DOO dollars, or iniprisiinmont not nioro than si\ months, or by both, such flues within the limiti herein s((t forth, and imjn-isimment." The jury found the |)risoners ij;iiitty, and the master of the " 'I'liornton " wuh sentenced to thirty days' imprisonment and (o \y.\y a line of 5(10 dollars, while the main was sentenced toa like term of im|n'isonm(mt .and to pay a line of ;»()() dollars. It ll|)p('ars from a t'dcirraphio despateh of the ]Htb Septerubor last that the tnastcrs and mates of the " Onward " and " (,'aroline " have sii\ce also been tried, and seutoneed to undergo penalties simil.ar to those inllietod on the nnster and mate of the '"rhornton." The SuI)-Coniniittee do not liere (.iMpo ' to eomment on the enlart^ed construction 5 laced by .lud£,'(! Dawson on tlie worrls -adjacent waters" in the clauses of the (devised tatntes'above referred to, further than tn' remark in passino; that its elfect would he to convert a ])nrely mnnieipil prohibition into an international obliy:atiou, and to olaun for the Inited States a jurisdiction wbicli their (lovernment have in tJie past not only declined themselves to assert, but whitih they Ikinc strenuously resisted Avheh claimed by another i'ower. The followiuLT brief instance will illustrate the (losition taken by the Inited States' (fovcrnmeut in the recent past: As late as the l!)th Ai)ril, 1872, Mr. Boutwell, then Secretary of the United States' Treasury, in answer to a request made to liini that a llevenue cutter should be sent to the ret?fon of Minnak Tass to prevent Australiiiu and Hawaiian vessels from takinii" seals on their annual raii<ratioii to the Islands of St. Paul and St. George, declined to accede to the request, and added : — " "^n addition, I do iiot see that the United States would have the jurisdiction or power to drive off parties going up there for that purpose, unless they made sUfch attempts within a marine league of the shore." Going fuither back in date, the Sub-Conunittw lind that in 1822 a claim to sovereignty over the Pacific Ocean north of the ijlst degree of latitude was put forward by Russia. An Imperial Ukase, issued on the 4th (l(Jth) Se])tember, 1821, regulating commerce, whaling, and tishing tdong the eastern coast of Siberia, the north- Avestern coast of North America, and the Aleutian and other islands, and prohibiting all foreign vessels from landing on the coasts aiul islands belonging to Russia, or approaching them within less than lOO Italian miles, was conuuunicated to the American Government on the 11th Ptdjruary, 1822 ((' of Ajipendix). The llononrable John Quincy Adams, at that tinu' U'nited States' S(>cretary of State, wrot(> on the 25th of the same mouth to M. .ie I'oletiea. the Russian Minister Pleni])otentiary, expressing the surprise of the Rresid(Mii of flie United States at tlie assertion of a territorial claim by IJussia expending to the .')lst degree of north latitude on this continent; stating that the exelusiou of American vessels from (lu; shore bevond the ordinarv distance to wlucli the temtorial jurisdiction extends had excited still greater surprise; and requesting an (explanation of the grounds of right, upon ])rinci)tlcs generally recognized by the laws and usages of nations, which conhl warrant such claims. M. de Poletica, in a despatch dated the lOtli (28th) 1\ fuM-iy, 1882, defends the prohibition as designed to suppress the furnishing by foreigners of arms and ammu- nition to the nativ(,>s of llussian America. He adds, however: — "The extent of sea of which those possessions form the limits comi)rehcii(ls all the conditions which are ordinarily attached to shut seas (' mers fcrmces '), and the Russian ( iovernment might, consequently, judge itself authorized to exercise upon this sea the right of soveneignty, and esjxvially that of entirely interdicting tin; entrance of foreigners. Eut it ))relerred only assei'ting its essiMitial rights, without taking any advantage of localities." Mr. Adams deemed it a suilicieiit answer to this claim to point out the fact that the " distance from shore to shore on this sea in latitude TjI"^ norths is not less than 90° of longitude, or t,0()0 miles." (State tapers, Tol. I'x, p. 471 et seq.) A Avriter in tlu; " North American i?eview," in an articl(> published a few months later, says, with respect to Mr. Adams' answer, "A volume on the subject could not have placed the absurility of the pretensions more glaringly before us." (" North American Eeview," vol. xv, p. 389.) r r 32 The position wns roliiuiuiNlx'd hy UiiMiiia after mucli nof^otintion and correspon- dence (sec American State Papers, I'nreitcn Itelations, vol. v, p. t32), and on tiie 17th April, 1H21, a Convonticn, was c(.iieliidcd between the United States and tiiat country wiiicli was ratified at Washini^ton on the 12th January, 1825, and of which the 1st Article is as follows : — '•1. [t is aj^reed that in any part ol' the ^rcat ocean, commonly called the J'aeillc Ocvan, or Soutli Sea, the respetrtive citizens or subjects of the High Contraetinjf Powers sliall i)e neither disturbed nor restrained, eitiier in navigation or in lisiiinsj, or ill t lie power of resorting to tlic coasts upon points win'ch may not already iiavo l)een occupied for the jiurpose of trading with the natives, saving always the restrictions and c(mditiou8 determined by the following Articles." (State Papers, vol. xii, p. 595.) The conditions and restrictions relate chiefly to the prevention of illicnf trade in 8j)irituous licjuors, fire-arms, &e. Negotiations l)etween Great Britain und Itussia on the subject of the same Ukase, and the prohibition above referred to, resulted in n 'I'reaty between tlu; two Powers, concluded on the Kith (28tb) February, 1825, ami containing the following provision, in which the right of fishing and navigation by (ireat Britain in any part of the Pacific Ocean is recognized : — " It is agreed that the respective subjects of the lligb Contracting Parties shall not be troubled or molested in any part of the ocean commonly called the Pacific Ocean, either in navigating the same, in fishing therein, or in landing at such parts of the coast as sliall not have been already uecu))ied, in order to trade with the natives, under (he icstrictions and conditions specified in the following Articles." (State Papers, vol. xii, p. 38.) So far as the Sub-Committee are aware, the claim was uevei- revived until it is now for the first time put forward by the I'liived States. It does not ajjpear netressary to insist at any great length that the conditions attaching to maria vliiu.iit cannot by any possibility be predicated of Bchring's Sea, and that the seizure of Canadian vessels at a distance of over 100 miles from th "inland and 70 miles from the nearest island constitutes a high-liandcd exten.sion ritime jurisdiction unprecedented in the law of nations, but the Sub-Commi nuot conclude without inviting the earnest attention of llcr Majesty's Government to the fact that Canadian citizens seized wJ'ile engaged in the pursuit of their lawful vocation upon the high seas, and more than 70 miles from the nearest laiul, have been dragged before a fori'ign Court, their property confiscated, and themselves thrown into prison, where they still remain. The Sub-Committee express their confident hope that such representations will be at onct; made to the United States' Government as will secure the immediate release of the imi)risoued men, and full reparation for all losses and damage sustained by them. The Committee concur in the foregoing Report, and they advise that your Excellency l)e moved to transmit a copy of this Minute, if approved, to the Right Honoiu-able the Secretary of State for the Colonies and to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council, Canada. .\ppeiidix (A). Mr. H. /•". Fieiirli, Adiwj Seintary, 'I'reasuri/ DcpartiHeut, to Mr. 1), A. D'Aneonu, 717, O'Furrdl tStreet, S'lii Frawisco, California, March 12, 1886. [See Inclosure 7 in No. 3.] Appendix (B). Mr. D. Manning, Seerelari/, Trmmtri/ Department, to the Collector of Cmtnmx. San FrancUcn, March 16, 1886. 1 ^1 ,4t * [See Inclosure 7 in No. 3] w corrcspon- nd on tlic s» and that lI of which the J'acilic Contract iiij^ in linliing, reiuly liavo liways thi' ilo Papors, iil trade in iiiio Ukase, no Powers, : provision, >art of the arties slmll the Pacitic siieh parts ;he natives, 1." (State until it is conditions 's Sea, and "inland ritime nuot ncnt to the nl vocation ^n drai^ged nto prison, ons will he ate release stained by that your the Ilight klinister at erk, Canada. ,, . Aiijii'iiilix (('). AV/(7 I//' ///« Iinjieriiil Mnji'ntn, Aulmrut of All the Jliimn.i. Tlin Directing Scimtc^ iniikclli kiinwii \iiitii all men : wliorciis, in an Kilict nf IIIm liM|ii'i'iiil Miij(!sty, iHHiiRil l« tlit^ Diirclinj; Sniali' nii the 4tli day nl' Sc|ilt!iiili('i', ami Mi;,'ii('(l hy Mis liiipcrial MaJt'Hty'H own liiiiitis, it is lliiis ('XprcHscd : — "Olisi'i'vin^ ri'iiiii i'('|iiii'(s .siiliiiiilU'd III IIS timl IIik tiiidi' i>I mil siiIiJitIs mi llii' Ak'iitian InIiUkIn unci mi till' iiiirtli-wrst rmisl nl' Aiiiri iia, a|i|ii'ilailiiii^' iiiitii liiissia, is .siilijciti'il, licnuisii of illicit uml scri'i'l trallir, tn ii|i|iri'ssiiiii and iiii|inliiiii'iils, and lindiii^' lliat llii' prinripal caimc i<( tlii'su dillicnltieH Ih the want nl' Unli's istalilisliiiii,' tlii' limindaiii's I'm' navij,'atiiiii iilniij,' tlii'sr coiisls, and tlic miU'V of naval ronininniratimi, as uidl in tlii'sn |ilari's as mi llic wlioli' of llif eastern euast of Silieiiii iind the Kniile [slands, we have deemed it neiessuiy to deteitnilie these eoininilliiiatimis hy S)H!eilie I{c%'ulutiims which am hereto iittaehed. " ]n forwaidiii;; tiiese ];e!j;nlatimis to the hirei^tiiij,' Senate, we emninaiiit that the iiuine, ho ]iuliliNliu(l for universal inlurnrntimi, and that iiiojH'r nieiisnref he taken to eiirry them into execution. (.'ounter.siHUod : (Signed) "Count D. HVlllEY, Miiiulir i>/ Fiuamr." It in tliori'foro (hicrecd hy the Directing Semite tliiit Hin Imiierial Majesty's Mict lie (lulilislieil for the infoiiiiation of all men, and Unit the same he obeyed liy all whom it may coiiuerii. The ipiigiim! is .signed hy the Directing Senate. On the original i.s written in the handwriting o| His hnpurial Miijeaty thus — " lie it awordinglv, (Signed) "ALKXAN'DKI!." Section 1. The ijursiiils of commeree, whaling, and lishery, and of all other industry on all islands, jM)rts, and gulfs, including tho whole of the north-west coast of .\nieriea, heginning from IJehrilig's Straits to the ."list degree of northern latitude, also from the Aleutian Island.s to the eastern eoiiHt of Siberia, as well as along tho Knrilo J.shinds from iJeliring's Straits to the south cape of the I.sland of Uriip, viz., to the 4.'(' -'O' northern latitude, is e.\cliisively granted to Itussian subjects. Section 2. It is therefore prohibited to all foreign vessels, not only to laiul on the coasts and islands belonging to Itus-sia, as stated above, but alsn in approach them within less than 1011 Italian miles. The transgressor's vessel is subject to confiscation, ahmg with tlie whole cargo. Sir, Ottawa, April 9, 1 886. I have the honour to transmit herewith a letter just received from Mr. Tlieodore Lubbe, the managing owner of our British Columbian sealing fleet, and dated the 30th ultimo ; the newspaper clipping attached thereto fully e.vplains the matter embodied therein, and, as will be at once seen, it is a matter of vital importance to our fishing industry and commercial enterprises generally that the same siiould engage the attention of the Govern- ment at the very earliest posf^ible moment, in order that the owners may be appiised with as little delay as possible how they are to act. 1 would therefore respectfully urge that the whole subject be referred to his Excellency the Governor-General in Council, so that I may be informed as quickly as is reasonably pos.sible what reply to telegraph ; should this mode of procedure be irregular or undesirable, then 1 would mast respectt'iilly ask that such other steps betaken in the pre;nises as to you may appear necessary or expedient, so as to avert trouble in tbe closely approaching season alluded to, and remove all doubt as to the rights of the parties on the " high seas," or otherwise, as may appear to be reasonably consistent. 1 have, &c. (Signed) EDGAtt CROW- BAKER, M.P., Vice-President, British Columbian Board of Trade, The Honourable the Secretary of State. '"/■/•<■// .SV/yW, Mr. Lubbe to Mr. E. Crow-Baker, M.P., Victoria, British Columbia, March 30, 1886. . [See Inclosure 8 in No. .3, p. 7.] HfMfO, Contraband Seal Hunting. Noticing in your issue of the " Call " of t!ie 2r>th instant an article referring to the Alaska Pur Company's territory, to oblige a number of your stibscribers will you kindly inform us if a vessel Imnting seal a marine league off shore in Behring's Sea would be liable to seizure, or does the marine league limit apply to that territory as it does to all land in the high seas ? , SeVKKAL iNTEKlSSTEi) SUBSCRIBKRS. [1281 F ^ ;! ! lii Section 1956, Revised Statutes of the tJhited States, prohibits the killing of fur- bearing animals within the limits of Aldska f erritory or the waters thereof, except under an authorization from the Secretary of the Treasury, and it further provided that the Secret y siiall not grant any special privilege., under this section. Then comes the inquiry: " \^ hat is included in the term, 'the waters thereof?" The Treaty by which Alaska xtas ceded to the United States by Russia defines tlie boundaries of the jurisdiction ihiis conveyed. The western limit, wiiicii extends out on the high seas (a questionable conveyance) as far as the men iian of 103° west longitude, so as to include the whole of the Aleutian Archipelago, and thence proceeds north-west to the intersection of the hieridian 172' west with the parallel of 65° 30' i:ortli, passes through the middle of Bfchring's Straits, midway between the Islands of Kousentern, or Ignalook, and Rotmanoff, and thence due ndrtli without limitation into the Frozen Ocean. By Act of Congress the laws 01 the United States aio extended over all this territtny nnd water. As Behrihg's Straits at its narrowest is 3i; miles wide, 9 miles frc-m the Alaskan m-iinland coast would not begin to reach the western limit of our purc.ir.sc fi'om Russia, uuii until the right of the United States' Governmeni to exclusive juris.lictiou over those waters is successfully controverte-1, you must not vioh.cc the law of Congress, by killing seals therein^ without the consent of the Secetary of the Treasury, on jieril of coiiflscation. " According to the current of modern autliol'!* • " says Chancellor '.<cnt, " the general terfitoi-ial jurisdiction extends into the sea as far « a cannon-shot will reach, and no farther, and this is generally calculated to be a marine league (.'3 "liles), an J t':e Congress of the United States has recognized this limitation." The claim of Ruiisia to sovereignty over the Pacific Ocean north of the 51st degree of latitude, as a close sea, was considered by Our Government in 1822 as being against the rights ol other nations, but now, as we have bought l^ussia out, it is all right. One's opinions change according to one's standpoint, and besides- carinoilS shoot farther now than they used to. Public No. 130. An Act to prevent the Ecjtermination of Fur-bearing Animals in Alaska. [See Inclosure 1 in No. 6.] Letter dated Treaeu.o Department, Washington, B.C., April 19, J872. [See Inclosure 6 in No. 3.] Indenture dated August 3, 1870. [See Inclosure 3 in No. 6.] The Alaska Seizures. Extract from the Brooklyn " Eagle." [See Inclosure in No. 1 3.] 5*® t . i; ---it'-' 11 '1^ Government House, Victoria, British Columbia, (Extract.) August 2(i. 1886. I have the honour to report that a few days since I received a telegram from Mr. Mason, Acting British Consul at San Francisco, to the following effect : — " 'Caroline' and 'Thornton ' seized by United States' steamer ' tiorwid ' fot illegal sealing; abor.t twenty men from them put on board 'St. Paul' arrived here last night; they ask me for protection and to send them to Victoria. Advise me what to do. They are not charged with anything." Upon receipt of this I arranged with the owners of the " Caroline " and " Thornton " for the return of the uien here, and they arrived on the the 23rd. The " Caroline " and " Thornton," belonging to different owners, are sloops owned here and fitted c-' here for the prosecution of seal fishing in the North Pacific o d Behring's Sea. It seems from the accounts given that they were peaceably pursuing ti. .r vocations and not within 70 miles of land when they were seized by United States' Revenue steamer "Corwin," as above stated. Some of the men were shipped te San Francisco ; the sloops and their masters arc retained in some Alaska port. I inclose a cutting from <i news])apcr published here, which gives as correct an account of the matter as wo have at present, unil also a statement of the facts relating to the transfer <0 the United States of the Russian-American possesbious and of the lease and ing of fur- cept under :d that the comes the y by which jurisdiction [uestidnabie 16 whole of ;ion of the middle of Rotmanoff, Dhgress the 3 Behriiig's ;oast would the right of successfully ;iny without ding to the jurisdiction is generally States has cific Orean ;erhment in [Russia out, es< cannoilS z. hlumbia, ram from foe illognl ast niglit ; do. They 'homton " )ps owned acific d >uing ti. .r ed States' cd '.a San in account ng to the lease and ^ concessions gr^nte4 by the Government of the United States to \he Cptnpany aboye mentioned. . The matter has been already laid before the Honourable the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, whi opportunely arrived here a lew days after my receiving information of it; but I beg tq call your earnest attention to it, so that, the whole case being laid before the Imperial authorities, ste;:s may be taken not only to cause reparations to bp made for the outrage committed, but to definitely prevent any possible repetition of it. The Seaiins Schooner Seizukes. As the late seizures of an American and three British scaling schooners by an American Revenue putter in the Behring's Sea arc almost certain to lead to international complications on account of the extravagance of the assumption upon which those seizure? were made, a brief history of the events which kd up to them will be acceptable at the present time. In March 1867 a Treaty was made betwper Russia and the United States, by which Russia ceded all its possessions in British North America to the Governinent jf the United States. One of the terms of tjiat Treaty declared that the western limit, ^ithin which the territories and dominion conveyed are contained, passes through a ppipt in Behring's Straits on the parallel of 65° 30' north latitude at its intersection by the meridian which passes midway between the Islands oF Krusenslern or Ignajooji, and proceeds due ; orth without limitation, into the same Frozen Ocean. Tha same western limit, bcginniiig at the same initial point, proceeds thence in a course nearly §p)}thTvypsj; through Behring's Sea, so as to pass midway between the liOrth-wcsl point of St. i^a^yrenc^ and the south-east point of Cape Choutkotski to the meridian of 17ii° west longitude, thence fvoin the intersection of that meridian in a south-westerly direction so as to pas? midway betwjen the Island of Attou and the Copper Island of the Kormandorski couplet or gioup in the North Pacific Ocean to the meridian of 193° west longitude, so p^s \a include in the territory conve}ed the w'aole of the Aleutian Islands east of tlif^t merifjjan. So far, so good. In July 1870, in the 2nd Session of the 4'lst Congress, an Act wa^ passed entitled "An Act to prevent the Extermination of Fur-bearing Animals in Alaska," in '."liicb tl]e number of seals to be killed for their skins vvas limited on St. Paul's aiul St. Geoige's Islands to 7."),000 per annum on each island, with power by the Secretary of the Trci^sury to further limit the number if necessary, and giving that official power fo lease for rental mentioned in this Act, to proper ami responsible parties, to the ]i\m advantage pf t))j; United States, having due regard to the interests of the Government, the native inhabi- tants, the parties hitherto engaged in trade, and the protection of the seal fisheries, for n term of twenty-five years from May J-870, the right to engage in taking seals on the Islands of St. Paul and St. George. Another section decjares that any person who shall kill any fur-seals on either of the said islands, or in the waters adjacent thereto, without authority from the lessees thereof, or interfere witii them in the lawful prosecution of their du'y, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanqijr, and shall for each offence or conviction he punished, and all their vessels, tackle, apparel, appurtenances, and cargo shall be forfeited to the United States. In the month following the passage of this Act, that is in August 1870, <f lease called tlje Seal Island {-.case was executed between the United States' Governnier^t i^nd the .\laska Commercial Company, a Corporai.; n establishel in California. h\ retprp for the exclusive privilege of taking for twenty y ars (with certain restrictions) fur-seals in the Islands of St. Paul and St. George, the. lessees agreed tp pay tiie Government an annual sum of i'55,000 dollars, 2 dol. f)2| c. for each seal-skin taken, 55 cents for each gallon of seal-oil sold, and to annually provide the natives with a certain quantity ojf provisions and fuel. The months of June, July, September, and October were, moreover, the only months during which the capture of the seals could be prosecuted. Under thi? lease or Cnncession thisCompi.ny has perpetuated its monopoly for sixteen years, reaping a vast profit therefrom. Not satisfieri with the prolific source of its sup|)ly, and the facilities affofiied it lor engaging in the business, the Cou^pny has sought apd prfictjcally succeeded in controlling the fiu'-seal market by its aggressiveness in pretending to construe the term " and |;he waters ijdjacent thereto " as inearing that vast sea uf waters included ip t^p limits of cession luimed in the Russo-Aniericijn Treaty of 1867. In this interpretation it has received the uiifclaxcd si!pjjo."-t of the United States' Government, whose interests in the matter are identical wiUi those of the Company ; and here it may be remarked tha^ the royalty paid by the li.tteir furnishes a handsome profit upon ^ho purchase-money of A|aska Territory. One or two ^niPHcai) p.cvepue cutters ^re alvyays pruizing in the Cli:8] F 2 p I T7 f: 36 Behring's Sea and that portion of the North Pacific to the south of the Aleutian Islan'is, ever on the alert to prevent any vessels but those of the Alaska Conamercial Company from capturing seals there. Meeting with no effectual opposition, and the cost of litigation precluding any chances of success (or the appellant, the Government has hecome more and more aggressive, until finally, changing from a defensive to an offensive supervision, their action has culminated in the deliherate seizure of three British sailing schooners upon, whatever a national greed may declare to the contrary, the high and open seas, recognized by international law as part of the iworld's great highway, free to the commerce of all countries, and a natural means of intercourse of all nations. It is laid down as one of the first principles of maritime and commercial international law that the open sea or main ocean is, like the atmosphere, free for common use to all mankind, and cannot be appropriated by any State to the exclusion of the others. Bearing in mind the huge improbability of the act of the Revenue cutter not being in consonance with Governmental orders, what do we find r That a nation, disregarding on one coast the the belt of the sea littoral which constitutes the range belonging to coast defence, is actually assuming on another coast supreme maritime jurisdiction over a waste of waters comprising half the northern part of a vast ocean. In the exercise of this self-arrogated authority foreign mercantile vessels an forcibly ':,eized and, with their cargoes, are declared confiscated, while with an unaccountable magnanimity the crews, after being landed at an American port many hundred miles distant from the scene of their capture, are allowed to go rt large. It may be advanced that if open to indiscriminate capture the fur-seal would have ere this become extinct, or nearly so. But though this has been the case with the seal in the southern regions it is a fact, which, deplorable as it may be, would furnish a most fli "' excuse to a Government whose regulation of the industry in Alcskan waters is promp t not by philanthropy, but by strictly mercenary considerations. So .%r has this latter d.-position carried them as to cause them to become responsible for an act which, if committed by a vessel privately manned and owned, would bear but one interpretation. As it is, the act is one that is rash, aggressive, and, in the face of what is Known, bitterly unjust, and is already spoken of as an unworthy means of reprisal for the late seizures made by Canada of American fishing-vessels on the Atlantic coast. The sealing schooners when seized were over 70 miles from any land, and how, with tiiis fact before them, tiie United States' Government can attempt, with any show of reason, o justify the conduct of the Commander of the " Corwin," it is difficult to imagine. Witl that evidence we have a; hand, the seizures and detention are manifestly illegal, and reprc -entations of the affair through the proper official channels have already been forwarded to the Home Government. Britain is not belligerent, the streigth she possesses — imparted by the commerce she conducts in every quarter of the globe — she does not misuse. Air. Munroe to Mr. Spring, August 7, 1886, [See Inclosure t in No. 7.] Dear Sir, Victoria, British Columbia, Novembrr 1.1, 1886. As our sealing schooners will leave Victoria on or about the 1 0th December for the sealing expeditions of 1887, many of them will not return to Victoria until September, or, in other words, not until the Behring's Sea trip is completed. We are, accordingly, anxious to know what is being done in the case of our seized vessels, and whether or not we may look for protection against what we and even the American press is pleased to term piracy. We have no occasion to interfere with the Alaska Commercial Company's riijhts on the Priboloff Islands, nor do our vessels come anywhere near land. The fact is, we take out at sea from .OO to 100 miles what the Honourable H. Elliot, o( tho Smithsonian Institute, in his Report of 1874 on the Seal Islands, calls " batcholor seals," or those not required on breeding-grounds, to which Report I would be pleased to call your attention. The industry is of too much importance to Canada to allow the Alaska Commercial Company to dictate who shall and who shall not take seals on tlie high or Behring's Sea. For the seascn of 1886 there was brought into Victoria from the Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea, and shipped therefrom to England and the United States, 50,000 skins, valued at about 350,000 dollars. It is evident that the business is worth protecting. .lust here allow me to contradict a statement made by S|)ecial Agent Single, of tho United States' Treasury Department, in which he says that three-fourths of the seals shot in the water sink and are lost. From the experience of our hunters I maintain but a sniiall percentage is lost in this way, probably not over one in fifty. I doubt if the loss 37 is as great as that caused by the rejection of skins after being clubbed by the Alaska Commercial Company on the islands, to which reference is made in the Tables of Elliot's Report. The Americans themselves in 1824 repudiated Russia's claim to the Behring's Sea when Russia seized the Boston brig "Pearl '' for whaling. Two years later Russia had to give the vessel up, and paid damages. In conclusion, I may say that the seized skins are liable to be valueless on account of neglect. Captain Ogilvie's body has been discovered ; a jury was empanelled, and a verdict was 8;iven in accordance with the facts of the case. Hoping you may be pleased to advise us in this matter before our vessels sail, you will confer a great favour on vour most obedient servant. (Signed) WM. MUNSIE. The Honourable George E. Foster, Minister of Marine and Fisheries. No. 23. T^e Earl of Iddesleigh to Sir L, West. — {Substance telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign Office, January 8, 1887. REFERRING to previous correspondence in regard to the case of the three Canadian schooners engaged in the seal fishery in Behring's Sea, I transmit to you here- with a copy of a letter from the Colonial Office, with a despatch, and its inclosures, from the Governor-Gereral of Canada, explaining the views of the Dominion Government i i the matter.'^ Nearly four months have now elapsed since my despatch of the 9th September last was addressed tj you, iu which you were directed to invite the Government of the United States to furnish you with any particulars they might possess relative to the occurrence ; and further instruction.? were sent to you in my subsequent despatches of the 20th, 21st, and 30th October and tiie 18th November, but up to the present date no reply has been received from that Government as to the alleged proceedings of their officials. I have now to instruct you lo express to Mr. Bayard the concern of Her Majesty's Government at receiving no reply to the serious rt presentations which they have telt compelled to make on the information which has rearlicd them respecting the proceedings of the United States' cruizer "Corwin" in snizing British sealing schooners on the high seas, and to urge, with all the force which t! lavity of the case requires, the immediate attention of the United States' Government i<; ib action of llie American authorities in their treatment of these vessels, and of their masters and crews. I am, &c. (feigned) IDDESLEIGH. No. 24. Sir L. West to the Earl of Iddesleigh. — {Received January 21.) My Lord, Washington, Jnnunry 10, 1887. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 8th instant, and to inclose to your Lordship herewith copy of a note which I immediately addressed to the Secretary of State, referring to my notes of the 27th September, 21st October, and 7th December last, and to your Lonishii despatch of the 30tii October, co|)y of whicii I placed in his liands on the 12tli vember, and expressing the sense in which Her Majesty's Government viewed his silt ncu with regard to the communications which had been made to him respecting the seizure of British vessels in Behring's Sea. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. 6ACKVILIJJ WEST. Inclosure in No. 24. Sir L. West to Mr. Bayard. Sir, Waihington, January 9, 1887. I HAVE the honour to inform you that 1 have received instructions from the Earl of Iddesleigh, Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, again to • No. aa. I I bring to your notice the grave representations made by Her Majesty's Government vesnpctiog tiie seizure of the British vessels " Carolina," " Onward," and " Tliornton " In Behring's Sea, by the United States' crui/er " Corwin," to which no reply has as yet bepn returned. On the 27th September last I had the honour to address to you a note in whieh I stated tiiat Her Majesty's Government re(|uested to be furnisbcti with any particilars fyhjpb t.be Lfnitcd States' Government might possess relative to this occurrence. On the '21st October last I had the honour to inform you that I was instructed by Jhe liarl of Iddesleigh to protest, in the name of Her -Majesty's Government, against such seizures, and to reserve all rights to compensation. In a note dated the 1 2th November last you were good enough to explain the delay which had occurred in answering these communications, and, on the same day, I had the honour Jo communicate to you a despatch from the Earl of Iddesleigh, a copy of which, at your request, I ])laced in your hands. On the 7th ultimo I again had the honour to address you, stating that vessels were cnuiiiping in British Columbia thv fishing in Behring's Sea, and tliat the Canadian Govi'nuni.nt were desirous of asceitaining whether such vessels fishing in the open sea, and beyond the toriitorial waters of Alaska, would be exposed to seizure, jind that Her Majesty's Government would be glad it some assurance could be given that, pending the settlement of the questions, no such seizures of Biitish vessels would be made in Behring's Sea. The vessels in question were seized a . a distance of more than 60 miles from the nearest land at the time of their seizure. The master of the "Thornton" was sentenced to imprisonment for thirty days, and to pay a tine of ;')00 dollars, and there is reason to believe that the masters of the " Onward " and " Carolina" have been sentenced to similar penalties. In support of this claim to jurisdiction over a stretch of sea extending in its widest pari some oOO or 700 miles from the nuiinhmd, advanced by the Judge in bis charge to the jury, the authorities are alleged to have interfered with the peaceable and lawf-'l occupation of Canadian citizens on the high seas, to have taken possession of their ships, to have subjected their property to forfeiture, and to have visited upon their persons the indignity of imprisonment. Such proceedings therefore, if correctly reported, would appear to have l)een in violation of the admitted p.'inciplc of international law. Under thfese circun>stances, Her .Majesty's Government do not hesitate to express their concern at not ha\ing received any rjply to their representations, nor do they wish to conceal the grave nature which the case lias thus assumed, and to which 1 am now instructed to call your immediate and most serious attention. It is unnecessary for me to allude further to the information with which Her Majesty's Government has been furnished respecting these seizures of British vessels in the open seas, and which, tor some time past, has been in the possession of the United Slates' Government, because Her Majesty's Government do not doubt that if, on inquiry, ii should i)rove to be correct, the Government of the United States will, with their well- known sense of justice,, admit the illegality of the jnoceedings resorted to against the British vessels and the Britis^b sulyeets above mentioned, and will cause reasonable reparation to he made for the wrongs to which they have been subjected, and for the losses vvhicli f-liey jiavc sustained. \n cojiplusion, I have the honqj^f again to refer to your note qf tl^e 12th November laijf;, and tp what \ov\ said verbally to mi on the same day, and tq express the hope that Jlic Clause pC the dejay coni|)lained of in answering the representations of |ier R^ajesty's ^i^yprilMient pn this gfave and important matter may be speedily removed. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLp WESf, No. 25. Sir fi. W'esf fQ fjer Majestii's Secretary of State, Foreign Office. — (Received Januar>j 26.) My Lord, Washington, January l'A, 1887. WITH rcRrence to my despatch pf the 7th instant, I have the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith copy ol' a note which 1 lave received from the Secretary of State in answer to my communication expressing the concern of Her Majesty's Govern- ment at receiving po reply tp their representations n-peeting the seizure of British vessels JH 13e|»ni|S'i? fipif. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. 11 ft M Inclosure in No. 25. ' ^ _,.,..■■■ -■ '* ' ■■ i . ' .■•,' „' Mr. Bayard to Sir L. West. Sir, Depariment of Stale, Washington, January 12, 1887. yOUK note of the 9tli instant was received by nie on the next day, and I regret exceedingly that, althougli my cfi'orts have been dihgently made to procnre from Alaska the authenticated copies of flie judicial proceedings in the cases ot the British vessels "Carolina," "Onward," and " Tliornton," to which you refer, 1 should not have beert able to obtain chem in time to have made the urgent and renewed application of the Earl of Iddesleigh superfluous. The pressing nature of your note constrains me to inform you that on the 27th Septen^'"'- last, wiieu I icoeived my iirst intimation from you that any question was possible as to the validity of tlie judicial proceedings referred to, I lost no lime in requesting my colleague the Attorney-General, in whose Department the cases were, to procure tor mo such authentic information as v;ould enable mc to make full response to your application. From week to week I iiave been awaiting the arrival of the papers, and to-day, at my request, the Attorney-General has tolegiaphed to Portland, in Oregon, the nearest telegraph station to Sitka, in Alaska, in order to expedite the furnishing of the desired papers. You will understand that my wish to meet the questions involved id the inStrcictibftS you have received irom your Government is averred, and that the delay has beeri fcnfdrctfl by the absence of requisite information as to the facts. The distance of the vessels from any land, or the circumstances attendant upon their seizure, are unknown to me, save by the statements in your last note, and it is essential that such facts should be devoid of all uncertainty. Of whatever information may be in the possession of Her Majesty's Government I have, of course, no knowledge or means of knowledge, but this Department of the Govern- ment of the United States has not yet been placed in possession of that accurate information which would justify its decision in a question which you are certainly warranted in considering to be of grave importance. I shall diligently endeavour to procure the best evidence possible of the matters inquired of, and will make due response thereupon when the opportunity of decision is afforded to me. You require no assurance that no avoidance of our international obligations need be apprehended. I have, &c. , , , (Signed) T t. BAYAREI. No. 26. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. West. Sir, Foreign Office, January 27^ 1887. WITH reference to your despatch of the 13th instant, I have to request you to make a point of inquiring from time to time whether the United States' Government have received the cx|)ected information with regard to the seizures of British vessels engaged in seal-iisliiug in Behring's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBUEY. No. 27. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received by telegraph, February 4.) My I.ord, Washington, February 4, 1887. HAVING reason to believe that the President was about fo take some action in the case of the seizure of liritish vessels in Behring's Sea, I addressed a note, copy of which is inclosed, to the Secretary of State, after the receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 27tli ultim.), inquiring whether the United States' Government had receivo(i tliH information and ])a|>ers cotmcctcd therewith ; and I now have the honour to inclose copy of a note t<'hich 1 have received in reply tliereto, stating that the papers in question were expected within a fortnight, and informing me that in the meanwhile, without conclusion at ! i:' J 40 this time of any questions involved, orders have been issued by the President tor the dis- continuance of all penc'ing proceedings, the discharge of the vessels referred to, and the release of ail persons under arrest in connection therewith, whicii information I telegraphed to your Lordship this day. Since the receipt of the Earl of Iddesleigh's telegram of the 6th December last I have from time to time endeavoured to obtain a decision in the sense of the note now addressed to me, which, as far as it goes, will, I trust, be considered by Her Majesty's Government as a satisfactory result. In accordance with the instruction contained in the above-mentioned telegram, I have communicated this result to the Governor-General of Canada. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WES1\ Inclosure 1 in No. 27. Sir L. iVest to Mr. Bayard. Sir, Washimjton, February 2, 1886. I HAVE the honour to inform you that, under date of the 27tii ultimo, the Marquis of Salisbury instructs me to inquire whether the information and papers relative to the seizure of the British schooners " Carolina," " Onward," and "Thornton " have readied the United States' Government. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure 2 in No. 27. Mr. bayard to Sir L. West. Sir, Department of State, Washington, February 3, 1887. I BEG to acknowledge your note of yesterday's date, received to-day. Upon its receipt I made instant application to my colleague the Attorney-General in relation to the recordof the judicial proceedings in the cases of the three British vessels arrested in August last in Behring's Sea for violation of the United States' I<aws regulating the Alaskan seal fisheries. I am informed that the documents in question lelt Sitka on the 2iJth January, and may be expected to arrive at Port Townsend, in Washington Territory, about the 7th instant, so that the papers, in the usual cour.se of mail, should be received by me within a fortnight. In this connection, I take occasion to inform you that, without conclusion at this time of any questions which may be found to be involved in these cases of seizure, orders have been issued, by the President's direction, for the discontinuance of all pending proceedings, the discharge of the vessels referred to, and the release of all persons under arrest in con- nection therewith. I have, &c. (Signed) T. F. BAYARD. I No. 28. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received February 9.) Sir, Downing Street, February 8, 1887. WITH reference to previous correspondence respecting the seizure of Canadian sealing schooners in Behring's Sea, 1 am directed by Secretary Sir H. Holland to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch, with its inclosures, from the Governor-General of Canada on the subject. Sir H. Holland will be glud to be informed of any action which Lord Salisbury may think proper to take upon this despatch, in order that the Marquis of Lansdowne may be apprised accordingly. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. tor the dis- to, and the telegraphed icmber last f the note id by Her telegram, I WES1\ 41 Inclosure 1 in No. 28. The Marquis of Lansdowiie lo Mr. Stanhope. Sir, Government House, Ottawa, January 15, 1887. vVITH reference to previous correspondence respecting the seizure of Canadian sealin'» schooners in Behring's Sea, I iiave the honour to transmit to you, in order that reparation may be sougiit from the United States' Government, a copy of an approved Report of a Committee of the Privy Council of Canada, submittiig papers containing full statements of claims for damage sustained and compensation demanded by the owners, masters, and mates of the schooners "Onward," "Thoraton," and "Carolina." I have, &c. (Signed) LANSDOWNE. 2, 1886. he Marquis itive to the ive readied , WEST. r 3, 1887. Upon its ation to the d in August he Alaskan muary, and )ut tiie 7th ne within a at this time rders iiave •roceedings, rest in con- ^YARD. Inclosurn 2 in No. 28. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council for Canada, approved by his Excellency the Governor- General in Council on the 3rd January, 1887. ON a Report dated the 27th December, 1.'386, from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, submitting papers containing full stat'jments of claims for damage sustained and compensation demanded by the owners, masters, and mates of the sealing schooners " Onward," " Thornton," and " Carolina," which vpsaolg were seized by the United States' Revenue cutter "Corwin" in Behring's Sea in August 188(3, and concerning which full representations have been made to Her Majesty's Goveriment in despatches bearing date respectively the 23rd and 24th September and the 29th November, 1886, and recommending that copies of the same be transmitted to the Right Honourable the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies, in order that reparation may be sought, from the United States' Government for all damages and loss to Britisl; subjects consequ^^it upon the illegal action of the United Slates' officers in the cases referred to: The Committee, concurring in the above, advise that your Excellency be moved to transmit copies of the papers accordingly. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. Documents annexed to preceding Report. The Claim of Daniel Munroe, Master of f^f British Schooner " Onward." I claim against the Government of the United States, or whom it may concern, the sum of 8,000 dollars for loss of wages, lay-out, damages, and indemnity for illegal seizure of the schooner " Onward " by the Commander of the United States' steamer " Corwin " in Behring's Sea on the 1st August, 1886, or thereabouts, and for detention and subse- quent wrongful imprisonment in gaol at Sitka. (Daniel Munroe, by his Attorney in fact), (Signed) EDGAR CROW-BAKER. Victoria, British Columbia, October 20, 1886. 8, 1887. Canadian to transmit 1, with its isbury may vnc may be USTON. The Claim of Hans Guttormsen, Master of the British Schooner " Thornton." I claim against the Government of the United States, or whom it may concern, the sum of 8,000 dollars for loss of wages, lay-out, damages, and indemnity for illegal seizure of the schooner " Thornton " by the Commander of the United States' steamer " Corwin " in the Behring's Sea on the 1st August, 1886, and for detention and subsequent wrongful imprisonment in gaol at Sitka. (Hans Guttormsen, by his Attorney in fact), (Signed) EDGAR CROW-BAKER. Victoria, British Columbia, October 20, 1886. [128] Q II 49 Damages claimed by the owner of Schooner " Carolina " in rci^pect of her Seizure hy the United Slates' Steam-ship " Corwin" while fishing in Behring's Sea. British Columbia, to wit. I, William Munsie, of Victoria, British Columbia, owner of the British schooner " Carolina," do solemnly and sincerely declare : — 1. That the value of the said vessel at the time of her seizure by the United States' steam-ship " Corwin " was 4,000 dollars, and the cost of her outfit, when she left Victoria for the Behring's Sea, was 3,000 dollars. 2. That she carried a crew of eleven men, and the estimated wages due to tlie master and men for fonr months from the loth day of May, 188G, to the time of the return of the said men to Victoria is 4,C00 dollars. 3. That at the time of her capture by the "Corwin" she had 686 seal-skins, which were worth, at 7 dollars each, 4,802 dollars. 4. That the probable catch for the season, estimated from the number of skins taken by the schooner " Mary Ellen," which was 3,564 skins, and by the number of skins taken when the said schooner was captured, would be 3,000 skins, the value of which would be 21,000 dollars. 5. That the loss sustained by me in consequence of the detention of the said schooner, and my being unable to employ her in ordinary work after the sealing season is over, is 450 dollars a-month, which sum I claim until the vessel is returned home iu good order and condition. 6. That I have also paid and incurred liabilities connected with the arrest of the said vessel, and in defence of the master and crew, for legal and other expenses, 1 ,000 dollars. And I make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, by virtvie of the Act passed in the 37th year of Her Majesty's reign, intituled " An Act for the Suppression of Voluntary and Extra-judicial Oaths." (L.S.) (Signed) WILLIAM MUNSIE. Taken and declared before me this 20th October, 1886. (Signed) M. W. Ttrwhitt Drake, Notary Public, Victoria, British Columbia. vu ■ Si II .i li 1 Damages claimed by the Owner of the " Onward" and "Favourite" in respect of their Seizure by the United States' Steam-ship "Corwin" while fishing in Behring's Sea. British Columbia, to wit. I, Charles Spring, of Victoria, British Columbia, owner of the British schooners " Onward " and " Favourite," do solemnly and sincerely declare : — 1. That the value of the said vessel " Onward " at the time of her seizure by the United States' steam-ship " Corwin " was 4,000 dollars, and the cost of the outfit when she left Victoria for the Behring's Sea was 1,000 dollars. 2. That she carried a crew of twenty mtn, and the estimated wages due to the master and men for four months from the 12th day of June to the time of their return to Victoria is 7,.'500 dollars. 3. That at the time of her capture by the " Corwin " she had 400 seal-skins, which were worth 2,800 dollars. 4. That the probable catch for the season estimated on the number of skins taken by other schooners, and by the number of skins caken when the said schooner was captured, would be 3,000 skins, the value of which, at 7 dollars a skin, would be 21,000 dollars. .•i. Tiiat the loss sustained by me in consequence of the detention of the said schooner, and my being unable to employ her in ordinary work after the sealing season, is over 600 dollars a-month, which sum I claim until the vessel is returned to me in good order and condition. 6. That I have also paid and incurred liabilities connected with the arrest of the said vessel, and in defence of the master and crew for legal and other expenses, 1,000 dollars, and I also claim 3,000 dollars damages, because the officer in command of the United States' steam-ship " Corwin " as she passed the " Favourite" ordered her to cease sealing, which she did, and thereby lost her season. And I make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believin the same to be true, by ^ Seizure bij the ?a. itish schooner United States' le left Victoria to the master ! return of the i!-skins, which )f skins taken Df skins taken lich would he said schooner, son is over, is in good order arrest of the ;penses, 1,000 to be true, by " An Act for MUNSIE. spect of their ng's Sea. sh schooners eizure by the ! outfit when :o the master n to Victoria skins, which skins taken fihooner was d be 21,000 id schooner, ison, is over good order t of the said ,000 dollars, the United ;ase sealing, be true, by i'» 43 virtue of an Act i)asscd in the 37tb year of Her Majesty's reign, intituled "An Act for the - rvo ^ ■' " Suppression of Voluntary and Extra-judicial Oaths." (L.S.) (Signed) C. SPRING. Taken and declared before me this 18th October, 188G. (Signed) M. "W. Ttkwiutt Drake, Notary Public, Victo' ia, British Columbia, Damages claimed by the Owner of the Steam-vessel " Tliornton" for illegal Seizure by the United States' Steam-ship " Corwin " while fishing in Behring's Sea. British Columbia, to wit. I, James Douglas Warren, of Victoria, British Columbia, owner of the British steam- vessel " Thornton," do solemnly and sincerely declare :— 1. That the value of the said vessel at the time of her seizure by the United States' steam-ship " Corwin " was 6,000 dollars, and the cost of her outfit when she left Victoria for the Behring's Sea was 4,000 dollars. 2. That she carried a crew of fifteen men, and the estimated wages due to the master and men for four months from the 26th day of May to the 1st day of October, the date of their return to Victoria, which I have to pay, is 5,100 dollars. 3. That at the time of her capture by the •' Corwin " she had 403 seaUskins, which, at 7 dollars each, were worth 2,821 dollars. 4. That the probable catch for the season, estimated on the number of skins taken by tiie schooner " Mary Ellen," and by the number of skins taken when the said vessel was captured, would be 3,000, of the value of 21,000 dollars. 6. That the logs sustained by me in consequence of the detention of the said vessel, and by being unable to employ her in ordinary work after the sealing season is over, is 600 dollars a-month, which sum I claim until the vessel is returned to me in good order and condition. 6. That I have also paid and incurred liabilities connected with the arrest of the said vessel, and defence of the master and crew for legal and other expenses, 1,000 dollars. And I make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, by virtue of the Act passed in the 37th year of Her Majesty's reign, intituled " An Act for the Suppression ol Voluntary and Extra-judicial Oaths." (L.S.) (Signed) J. D. WARREN. Taken and declared at Victoria this 19th October, 1886, before me. (Signed) M. W. Tyrwhitt Drake, Notary Public. Victoria, British Columbia. I, James Blake, mate of the schooner " Carolina," claim 5,000 dollars as damages for my illegal arrest and imprisonment on board the " Corwin " and in goal at Sitka from the 1st August to the 16th September, 1880. (Signed) JAMES BLAKE. Witness : (Signed) M. W. Tyrwhitt Drake. Victoria, British Columbia. 1, John Margotich, mate of the schooner " Onward," claim 5,000 dollars as damages for my illegal arrest and imprisonment on board the United States' vessel " Corwin " and in gaol at Sitka from the 23rd August, 1886, to the 29th September in the same year. (John Margotich, by his Attorney), (Signed) C. SPRING. Witness : (Signed) M. W. Tyrwuitt Drake. [128] G 2 f 4A Victoria, British Columbia. I, Harry Norman, mate of the steamer " Thornton," claim as compensation for my illegal arrest and imprisonment on board the United Stales' steam-ship " Corwin " and in gaol at Sitka, the sum of 5,000 dollars, dated the IQth October, 1886. (Harry Norman, by his Attorney), (Signed) J. D. WARREN. October 19, 1886. Witness : (Signed) M. "W. Tiewhitt Drake. Victoria, British Columbia. I, James Ogilvie, master of the schooner " Carolina," claim as compensation for my arrest and imprisonment on board the United States' steam-ship " Corwin " and in gaol at Sitka, the sum of 5,000 dollars, dated the I'Jth October, 1886. (James Ogilvie, by his Attorney), (Signed) A. J. BECKTIL. October 19, 1886. Witness : (Signed) M. W. Tyrwhitt Drakk. «l Abstract of Damages, Damages as per Dcclarnlion. Value of vessel and outfit Wages of crew ., Value of seal-skins on board . . Value of probable catch Loss sustained by detention, para. 5 Legal and other expenses . , Loss sustained by order to cease sealing , Schooner " Onward." Dollars. 5,000 7,500 2,800 21,000 1,000 Stcain-ship "Thornton." Dollars. 10,000 5,100 2,821 21,000 1,000 Schooner " Caiolina." Dollars, 7,000 4,500 4,802 21,000 I'.OOO For illegal Arrest and Imprisonmeni. Daniel Munroc, master of " Onward," for indemnity for illegal seizure, loss, &c. John Margotich, mate of " Onward," „ „ Harry Norman, mate of " Thornton," „ „ James Ogilvie, master of " Carolina," „ „ James lilake, mate of " Carolina," „ „ Hans Guttonnsen, master of " Thornton," „ „ Schooner " Favourite." Dollars. 3,000 Dollars. OSS, &c. . . 8,000 » . . 5,000 «> . . 5.000 n . . 5,000 » . . 5,000 it .. 8,000 No. 29. " Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, February 14, 1887. I HAVE laid before the Marquis of Salisbury your letter of the 8tli instant, forwarding a copy of a despatch, with its inclosures, from tlie Governor-General of Canada, relating to the claims for damages sustained and compensation demanded by the owners, masters, and mates of the British schooners "Onward," "Thornton," and "Carolina," which were seized by the United States' Revenue cruizer " Corwin " last August, while engaged in seal fishing in Behring's Sea. In reply, I am directed by his Lordship to request that you will suggest to Sir H. Holland that it might be desirable to defer laying these claims before the (jroverninent of the United States until Her Majesty's Government have had an opportunity of examining the statement as to the circ stances under which the seizures took place which is referred to in Sir L. West's telegram of the 4th instant, communicated to you on the following day. 45 mtion for my rwin " and in cv) kVARREN. isation for my ind in gaol at BECKTIL. Spliooiicr ' Fuvouritc." Dollars. 3,000 DoHnrs. 8,000 5,000 5,000 5,000 5,000 8,000 y 14, 1887. lit, forwarding da, relating to masters, and which were nsaged in seal ngsest to Sir ; Government pportunity of es took place .ted to you on I am to add that, should this suggestion meet with Sir 11. Holland's concurrence, instructions will be sent accordingly to Sir L. West. I am &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 30. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury.— (Received February 15.) My Lord, Waslnngton, January 30, 1887. I HAVE the honour to transmit herewith the Report of the Governor of Alaska I the year 1886. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosurc in No. 30. Extract from the Report of the Governor of Alaska for the Fiscal Year 1886. Protection of Fur Seal and Sea Otter. THE capture of one American and three British vessels while cnj^aged in taking seals in the inland waters of Alaska by the Revenue cutter "Corwin" has no doubt been fully reported by her zealous and meritorious Couimandur, Captain C. A. Abbey, to the proper Department, and but for the fact that the officers and crews were brought to Sitka, and, together with the captured property, turned over to the United States' Marshal, the subject might not be considered one within the province of this Report. The masters and mates of the several vessels were tried at a special term of the District Court, and all convicted and sentenced to brief terms of imprisonment, and three of them to payment of fines ranging from 300 dollars to 600 dollars each. The terms of imprisonment of all save the master of the American vessel having very nearly expired on the 29th September, on the urgent request and recommendation of the honourable Judge of the District Court before whom the convictions were had, I granted respites in the several cases, save the exception noted, and the prisoners were released and allowed to depart for their several homes. They were without means, and, had they been detained until the expiration of their sentences, would have become objects of charity among strangers until the sailing of the next monthly steamer. As these seizures have most probably raised an international question involving the right of the United States to exclusive jurisdiction over the waters of the Behring's Sea north of the Aleutian Islands and east of the 193rd meridian west longitude, it may not be unbecoming in me to suggest that unless that right is insisted upon and maintained, an industry which now yields a revenue equal to a fair rate of interest on the amount paid for the whole of Alaska will not only be destroyed, but the means of livelihood will likewise be taken away from a large number of people whom the Government is bound by every consideration of honour and public policy to protect. I can conceive of no other plan by which the seal fisheries can be preserved than the one long ago adopted and now in vogue; whether they ought not now to be yielding a very much larger revenue to the Govern- ment is a question to be discussed a year or two hence. It is reasonably certain, however, that unless our Government asserts and maintains the jurisdiction ceded to it by Russia, the Seal Islands will in a very few years be robbed of all present or prospective value to any one. It is just as essential to the preservation of this industry that the seals be protected against indiscriminate slaughter while on their way to and from their breeding places as that the number to be taken on the islands should be limited, and every necessary restriction imposed as to age, sex, and the mode of killing. The use of fire-arms is prohibited by law, even to the natives, in the killing of seal and other fur-bearing animals in Alaskan waters and on the islands thereof, and it would be a manifest act of injustice to them to permit either foreign or American vessels to enter and engage in the indiscriminate shooting of such animals in waters over which the United States claims and exercises I 46 exclusive jurisdiction nnd control. Unless our right to such juristliction be waive:! or abandoned, seals once in Hciiring's Sea are as much tlio property of tlie United States as tiie islands themselves, and should be no less zealously t^uarded than are tlie Newfound- land cod banks l)y the Dominion of Canada. Unless so guarded, chartered rigiits will not only be impaired, but a source of large and perpetual revenue to the Govcrunieut utterly destroyed. Hut there arc other than selfish reasons why the United States should insist upon its right to cxthisive jurisdiction over the waters of Hehring's Sea as far west as the boundary line deseribfd in the Treaty of Cession. The principal occupation of the inhabitants, some 10,000 or 12,000 in number, of the islands therein and a(ljaccnt thereto, is sea-otter hunting, an occupation which will be completely destroyed if its waters are thrown open to all who choose to enter. It is manifestly the duty of the (lovernnient to protect those people in the enjoyment of rights which to them arc inherent ; un abandonment of the jurisdiction claimed by us would be i)riictically assenting that the people in question may be driven from their homes and the employment by which they and their fathers for generations remote have obtained a livelihood. li I Transportation Facilities needed. In the foregoing connection I desire to call attention to the imperative necessity which exists for some means of transjiortation for the oflScials of the Civil Government to and from the different parts of the Territory. In the present condition of aflfiiirs the Marshal ran only reach a very few points to serve the processes of the Court, and in each and every case must undergo an enforced absence of at least a month. The civil officials are charged with the responsibility of enforcing the laws, and yet are not furnished with the means absolutely necessary to enable them to do so. The authorities at Washington do not seem to realize the fact that there are no waggon or other roads in Alaska, and tiiiit all travel must necessarily be by water. Crimes are reported from the various places of settlement, but the executive officers have no available means of going from place to phice to make arrests and enl'orec the laws. Smuggling is carried on, distilled spirits are being surreptitiously imported 'nto the Territory in spite of the decision of the District Court, thousands of dollars' worth of dutiable merchandize is imported across the border from British Colombia, and we are powerless to prevent any of these things. If a spriglitly Revenue cutter could be stationed here with orders to cruize in the inland waters of South-eastern Alaska, and give aid to the Civil Government, by carrying its officers to points necessary to be visited by them on official business, bringing witnesses and jurors, &c., I am reasonably certain the lawlessness now so prevalent could be broken up, the (lovernment's revenues secured, the laws enforced, and life and property rights fully protected. Until something is done in this direction to enable the officials to perform their duties, civil government in Alaska will be little better than a ridiculous farce. The following letter, addressed to me by the District Attorney, fully ex])laius the necessity of the ease, and how it may be provided for without detriment, but rather to the advantage of the Revenue Marine Service : — " (District of Alaska, District Attorney's Office.) " Sir, " Sitka, September 20, 188b'. "As the official charged with the institution of the initiatory judicial proceedings against parties becoming liable to answer for breach of the laws in this district, I desire to call your attention to a most serious want in the facilities necessary to enable the officers of the Court to perform their duty effectively. We are, as matters now stand, entirely dependent on the line of monthly mail-steamers from Port Townsend, Washington, to Sitka, for any certain or regular means of getting to or from other places in the district, being thus not only limited in communication to three or four other Settlements, but also forced to an absence from Sitka of not less than one and possibly two months in any event in which it becomes necessary to visit them. Besides this, there are many Settlements where important business enterprises are located needing protection, which we are not able to visit at all. "At one of these, Nevvchuk, some 300 or 400 miles up the coast to the west, a trader was brutally murdered by Indians last December. Valuable mineral discoveries have just been made in that section which it is proposed very soon to develop, and there are large fishing establishments near and trading posts front which appeals have been sent to such officials as could be reached, to have the case inquired into and the offenders punished. Si;* 4H e waivc'J or u(l Stiites aa 1 Newfound- ;lits will not iiicut utterly sist upon its he bouiulary inlial)itant8, I, is feCil-ottlT Jirown open irotcct these iiieiit of the |Ucstion may V fathers for ^essity which Ticnt to iuid the Marshal in each and 1 officials arc cd with the ishington do Alaska, and arious places roni place to cd s|)irits arc the District ss the border cruize in the , by carrying ng witnesses d be broken operty rights s to perform ircc. explains the rather to the 20, 1886'. proceedings t, I desire to 3 the officers lail-steamers 3f getting to tion to three han one and m. Besides ated needing lest, a trader cs have just ere are large sent to such rs punished. The facts in this case are undoubted, and action by the authorities most essential to the interests and protection of oil residents. There is also n report of a murder at the Island of Unga, but not yet fully confirmed. There is certainly need of inquiry into certain hircenies and other lawless acts at Kodiak. " I om utterly powerless to institute the necessary examinations into these cases, in order to bring the parties to justice, and my inability and that of the Court to punish them must continue until we have the means of reaching those localities furnished us. "Another ease is in point : Tiiere arc now lying at Ounalaska three English schooners, seized for violationj of our laws against killing fur-bearing animals within the Territory. The cargoes of these and one other schooner, consisting of over 2,000 scal-skins, forfeited under these laws, are stored at the same place. Under the necessary proceedings in our Court these vessels and their cargoes h;vve been decreed forfeited, ond the Marshal will be recjuired to sell them. lie is absolutely without the means of getting to Ounalaska at all unless he goes by way of San Francisco, and can only carry out the orders of the Court at the most serious inconvenience. In fact, in the absence of the needed facilities for direct intercomniunication between the several sections and Settlements of this district, it is plain that the interests of the Government must greatly suffer, as they have already done, together with those of the people. " It would be an easy and simple thing to supply this need, at no matcriol increase of expense, in the protection of the Government's interest in Alaska, but rather to their positive advantage. A Revenue vessel stationed at Sitka, subject to the reasonable necessities of the Civil Government, could attend to all the wants occurring, without detriment to the service, necessary for the protection of the seal fisheries and the rights of the lessees of the Pribyloff Islands. Indeed, being here much nearer the waters in which such service is required than she would be at any station lower down the coast, she could perform that duty more conveniently, and at the same time would be able to put a itop to much of the smugglirg and illegal importation of liquors into South-eastern Alaska which is now going on. " There is no doubt that the service necessary in order to make the present civd and judicial government of this Territory something more than a mockery to a large portion o: its area and people could be effectually rendered in this way, and the other interests which it is thought necessary to protect by the same means promc^ed. I trust you will, therefore, represent this necessity to our Government in your forthcoming Report. There are many ways in which it is seriously felt, but which it would be ur<profitaLle to specify. " Very truly yours, (Signed) " M. D. Ball, " United States' District Allorney. "Hon. A. P. Swineford, " Governor of Alaska." The plan suggested by the District Attorney would not involve any extra expense to the Government over the present cost of the Revenue Marine Service in Alaskan waters ; it only implies that Sitka be made head-cpiarters for the cutter which is sent every year from San Francisco for the protection of the seal fisheries and sea-otter grounds, and be given the additional duty of co-operating with the civil authorities in the wav suggested. Under such an arrangement special terms of Court could be held at Ounalaska and Kadiak during the annual cruize of the cutter, and the laws enforced over a large section of the Territory, to the people of which the Civil Government is at present a thing which exists in name only. t\ matter which can so easily be arranged, and yet is of such vital importance to the proper and effective administration of the Civil Government, ought, it seems to me, to merit the prompt consideration and favourable action of the proper Departments. General Remarks and Suggestions. It piust not be inferred from what I have said concerning the nceJ of transportation facilities, which can only be supplied without large extra expense by means of a Revenue cutter stationed here at Sitka, that the presence of a war-vessel large enough to rate a marine guard can, or ought to be, dispensed with. A naval vessel, such as the " Pinta," or even one of the second or third rate, is very essential as a means of holding in peaceable subjection the native Settlements which have not yet yielded to civilizing influences, and to assist in restoring order in case of riot and armed resistance to the law on the part of a lawless element among the whites, such as 48 k % that wliich incited the recent expul?'jn of tb.o Chinese from Douglas Island. There is no necessity, however, in my opinion, .'or iiccping a miirii.e guard on shore iiere at Sitka, while there is an ever-present anJ i'ros| ective need for the presence of sui'li a force at Juneau, flad the \.ar-shin and iicr niarme guard been there at the time, I have every reason to believe the expulsion of the Chinese would not have been attempted, or, if it had been, the commanding officer would certainly have been in a position, acting in unison with the civil authorities, to prevent tiie mob from consummating its unlawful purpose. The same lawless element that accomplished the forcible removal of the Chinese miners and labourers is likely at any time to demand the discharge of the natives who have been employed to fill the enforced vacancies, and in the absence of an armed force would be enabled to enforce 'heir demand before any relief could be afi'ordcd from this point, where the only naval or military force in the Territory is now stationed — and where, 1 may truthfully add, its presence is not only unnecessary, but wholly useless. The native people here at Sitka are quiet and peaceable, and there is no lawless white element which cannot be held in complete subjection to the low without the aid or intervention of a mili- tary fjrce. The only place in the Territory where there is any prospect of lawlessness beyond the control of the civil arhorities is at Juneau, and I I'cspectfully urge that the propriety of transferring the " Pint^ '' and her marine guard to that point be at once brought to the attention of the honour.ible Secretary of the Navy. If for any reason it is not deemed advisable to order the transfer I ' ./e suggested, th°n I venture the further suggestion that the marine guard now stationed here on shore at Sitka be transferred, if not to the ship where they properly belong, then into other quaiters than those at presciit occupied by tliem in the building popularly known as the " Barracks." I submit herewith plans showing how and by whom the building is at present oeeu]>icd, from which it will be seen that there is a juxtaposition of the civil and military altogether unseemly, if not wholly inn)roper. The spectacle at the •-ecent term of Court, when a number of British subject? were on trial, and every morning heard the beat of the drum, calling guard-mount on the portico, simultaneously with the loud jiroclamation of the crier announcing the opening of Court in the same bvilding, was not one calculated to impress the strangers with an exalted opinion of our boasted free institutions. For appearance's sake, if for no other reason, this marine guard should be removed from this building in which the Courts are held, and the whole of which is needed for the accommo- dation of the Civil Government. But the truth is, this marine guard has no duty to peri''orm here in Sitka, save that of guarding the few supplies necessary to its own subsis- tence. i'rior to the institution of civil government the naval commander of the station was, to all intents and purposes, the executive officer of the Territory, and all ves:els stationed here were of .' rate which entitled them to a marine guard. ()ne-half of this guard was sent ashore ti perform police duty, the officer in command exercising the functions of a pohee magistrate. With a view to the continuance of this system, the "Piiita" was sent hn'c and furniBhed with a marine guard of twenty-five men, under comnianii of a Second Lieutenant, all of whom were sent ashore, the Conmianilaut and privates uerforming the police duties mentioned iron) the date other arrival, on tbc 17th August, IHsj., till the l-'tli September following, when the newly-created Civil (Jovernnicnt was i'Mugnrated. Since tiiat time the guard has bad no local duties whatever to perform, and has practically been as useless as would be the fifth wheel to a waggon. In this view of the case, I submit if room occupied by it, and which is urgently required for the use of the Civil Governn, t, ought not to be vacated, and the guard itself transferred to the only point in the Territory where an emergency reciuiringthe services of an armed force is likely to arise. There are buildings 'it Juneau belonging to the Navy Department large enough for the accommodation tf a force twice its size, and 1 respect- fully urge that tiic Senior Ollicer be ordered to make the transfer without unnecessary delay. M ■saS m m jM 49 There is no e at Sitka, a force at liavc every or, if it had unison svith ose. the Ciiinese es wiio have force would this point, ^hcre, 1 may The native ;ment which )n of a miii- ; beyond the propriety of ught to the e suggested, 3re on shore 1 into other nown as the ;nt occupied, ry altogether 3urt, when a of the drum, lation of the calculated to uions. For cd from this le aceommo- no duty to i own subsis- station was, 'jls stationed is guard was Inctions of a lilt li;^re and Lieutenant, [police duties h September c that time m as useless is urgently guard itself services of to the Navy ll I respect- luiuieecssary 11 .■'< No.3!. : ■! , r: 'IMj- I'l.'V Sir, . . Coknial Office to Foreign Office.— {Received February 28.) ..■•.. Downing Street, February 26, 1887. I AM directed by Secretary Sir H. Holland to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the I4th instai and to state that h- concurs in the JMarquis of Salisbury's proposal to defer temporarily, {.resenting to the United States the claims to compensation advanced by the Government of Canada in respect of sailing-vessels recently seized in Behring's I am, &c. ' (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. No, 32. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received March 31.) My Lord, Washington, March 18, 1887. I HAVE tiie honour to inclose to your Lrrdship herewith copies of a letter addressed to the Presideit by a tirm in San Francisco, engaged in the seal fishery in Behring's Sea, complaining oi the pretension of the Alaska Seal Company to exclusive jurisdiction oyer waters 3,000 miles long and 2,700 miles wide, and setting forth the grievances resulting therefrom. Allusion is made to the case of the American vessel "Ocean Spray," which went to the Island of St. Paul in 1876 and was seized for killing seals, and to the decision of the Judire of the Circiiit Court of Oregon, to the effect that the vessel had not violated the Act of Congres:^ The Treasury Circular of 1872 is also cited as proving that America,! vessels had the right to enter Behring's Sea, from which the Company sought to exclui e them. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLK WEST. Inclosure in No. 32. Extract from the "New York Herald" of March 17, 1887. (From our regular Correspondent.) " Herald " Bureau, Corner Fifteenth and G Streets, N.W., Washington, Mo: ch 16, 1887. THE following letter, addressed to the President, has just been received: — " 32, Clay Street, San Francisco, California, " March 2, 1887. "To his Excellency Grovcr Cleveland, President of the United States: " Sir, " Some respcc^abk; busincfs n.cn of the Pacific coast, owners of American vessels, have recently been assailed through the columns of the public press in a semi-official manner as ' nmrauilcrs ' and ' pirates ' on the ocean, their property seized and forfeited, their business jeopardizLnl, and their ssca ventures utterly destroyed, without any reasonable or justifiable excuse or cause. "The pretended cause is, and it is so asserted, that they have violated section 1,956 of the Revised Statutes of the United States, which forbids the killing of fur-seals or fur- bearing animals ' within ' the waters of Alaska Territory, ignoring the fact whether or not they were actually engaged in the killing of seals on the high seas or had made preparations so to do outside of tiic waters of Alaska Territory. On mere suspicion, they and their property have been remorselessly seized in the name of the United States by officials who have been engaged for the past many months in sounding the praises of the Alaska Commercial Company throughout the land, and adding to their usurpations by vilifying their victims. " The time seems to have come when the great interests involved in the free and legitimate shipping ventures of the merchant marine of the nation demand that official [128] H 50 inquiry be ir.ade into the arbitrary conduct of Governntent officials in Behring's Sea, in connection with the usurpation of a Company at whose instance these arbitrary acts are committed. " This Company, one of the most stupendous organizations that ever existed in this country, and the peer of the East India and Hudson Bay Companies, was incorporated many years ago under the laws of the State of Cahfoniiii as the Alaska Commercial Company, " Grabbing the Ocean. "It has taken possession of and assumed sovereign power over the most v.niuable fisheries of the whole United States, namely, the Alaska fisheries in Beining's Sea, and without shadow of riglit or authority, except a lease from the United States, dated the 8rd August, 1870, permitting it to kill 100,00u. seals annually upon two small islands in Behring's Sea, at a rent of 55,000 dollars per annum, &c., has taken possession and control, not only of the Territory, but also of a vast sea 3,000 miles long by 2,700 miles wide, has made itself the Suzerain of the Government, and impressed into its service the officers and agents of the Government to maintain its possession and control of this immense territory and sea. "Alexander the Great was not a robber, although lie absorbed kingdoms, and the Alaska Commercial Company is not a ' pirate,' although it has absorbed Alaska and an ocean. " It has established exclusive trading posts at all the available stations in that immense territory, on the coast, along the rivers, and upon the islands of Behring's Sea. It exercises absolute dominion over the natives, and holds them in a state of practical bondage. It has exterminated the seals on certain islands to prevent them from falling into the hands of other traders. Its agents have, in violation of law, defaced the silver coin of the United States with a stamp for purposes of trade, and refuse to accept any other when tendered by the 'lativcs for the purchase of the necessaries of life. It has extended its dominion into Russian territory to the restriction and detriment of trade upon the whole of Behring's Sea north of latitude 53°, and by an extension of jurisdiction, unknown to modern law, has procured the seizure of vessels fishing in Russian waters, upon the assumption of encroachment upon its privileges granted by the United States under the lease to fish on the Islands of St. P.aul and St. George in Alaska. r" % " Crimes against the Nation. " It has designedly violated the conditions of its lease by the failure to take oil from the carcasses of the seals killed, to the damage and loss to the Government of luuidreds of thousands of dollars, by throwing away millions of carcasses of seals without extracting the oil, the lease having been obtained upon an agreement to ])ay the (ildvernnient '.55 cents per gallon for uil obtained from said seals ' killed by it on the leased islands. Its agents use the United States' Revenue cutters ris a means of transportation, for pvivate benefit ; consult with and infiuence their olficcrs, to the detriment of American vessels in the waters of Behring's Sea: it aids and abets the Indians of Qunnluska to kill by sliooting from the shore, contrary to law, young seals and cows ; obtains the skins and sells the salted carcasses back to the Indians; it refuses to aid American vessels in distress, hy refusing to sell them provisions; it has for its paid agents officers or employes of the Government whose duty to the Government is overshadowed by the instructions of and for the benefit of the Company ; it sells to the natives at high priei s large quantities of condemned and worthless tobacco in violation of the internal revenue laws ; it cn\ploys and pr.ys attorneys to prosecute Government cases where American citizens are falsely and unjustly accused of crime, and, in order to maintain its supremacy over Alaska and the whole of Behring's Sea, it now seeks, by infamous prosecutions, to prevent American citizens from even traversing and fishing upon the higb seas, under the absurd pretence that the waters of the whole of Behring's Sea are adjacent to the Islands of St. Paul and St. George, and claims to be molested and disturbed in their lease of said islands by fishing-vessels hundreds of miles away and beyond the boundaries of the United States. " Monntrous Claims, "This (Company claims that the waters of Behring's Sea arc within the limits of Alaska, and procures the seizure, through subservient Government officers, of every vessel that dares to traverse those waters, or is found anywhere therein on a seal-huntiny voyage. * i 51 iring's Sea, in itrai'v acts are existed ia this 3 incorporated a Comnieicial most viiluiible ng's Sea, and tes, dated the lall islands in 1 and control, liles wide, has le officers and lense territory ioms, and tiie laska and an lions in that iehring's Sea. ! of practical a from falling he silver coin 3pt any other has extended ide upon tlic ion, unknown ers, upon the tes under the take oil from f iuuidreds ol xtracting the '55 cents per ts agents use vatc benefit ; ill the waters ting from the the salted )y refusing to Government )r the benefit iidemned and F.ys attorneys ly accused of Suhring's Sea, eu traversini; the whole of claims to be reds of miles " It is immaterial to it whether vessels are found in the actual killing of seals or where the seals have been killed ; the mere presence of the vessels in Behring's Sea seems suflSeient evidence to justify their seizure in any part of those waters. " In the case of the • Ocean Spray,' which went to the Island of St. Paul in 1876, the vcrv stronghold of this Company, provided with all the appliances for killing seals and was seized, Judge Deady, of the United States' District Court of Oregon, a man of unquestionable learning and of high judicial and personal character, held (in 4 Saw., 105) that all these preparations, even if an intent could be shown, were not a violation of the Act of Congress. This is the only reported adjudicated case, and the strongest the Company could have. " This vessel deliberately proceeded to, and landed its crew at, the Island of St. Paul, yet the Court held that there was no offence ; and when we consider that our vessel has been seized going to and returning from Russian waters, hundreds of miles distant from St. Paul and St. George Islands, and forfeited, and its n)aster and crew imprisoned, v/e are left to conjecture that the waters adjacent to the leased islands might be stretched to include the whole of the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, and that the power and rule of this Company extends from these islands to the city of Washington. "As early as 1872 the Company appealed to the Government to have a Revenue cutter stationed at Ounimak Pass, in tiie Aleutian group, the only safe entrance to Behring's Sea, to prevent American vessels from passing into that sea ; but the Secretary of the Treasury, the Hon. George S. Boutwell, refused, upon the legal ground that vessels had a right to go there if they did not kill seals within a marine league of the shore. " The Act of Compress contemplates this well-established doctrine when it restricts the killing of seals to the 'waters of Alaska Territory ' (section 195G, Revised Statutes), and further declares, in sections 1961 and 1967, that it is not a crime to kill seals in Behring's Sea unless 'in the waters adjacent to the Islands of St. Paul and St. George.' ' Adjacent ' means ' lying near, close, or contiguous,' and the waters within the marine league of the decisions are the only ' adjacent waters ' there are. But, according to this Company and the officers of olie Government, it means a stretch of ocean .3,000 miles long and 2,700 wide; and under this theory of 'adjacency' the term 'pirates' includes all fishing-vessels found in that sea. "Thei'- never has been a seizure within the waters adjacent to these islands, or of Alaska Territory, except the ' Ocean Spray,' and that vessel was released. i ; ■ ' " International Rights ignored. " Behring's Sea is the international highway to the Arctic Ocean, and not the private property of the Alaska Commercial Company, nor of the Government of the United States, and the Government could not concede to the Alaska Commercial Company any greater territorial right than it possessed itself, and that territorial right and jurisdiction ceases and ends at the ' marine league ' of international law from the shore. Beyond this lirnit the ocean is the common property of the whole world, and every animal and fish in it \sferm natttra; and belongs to him who takes it. " This is the doctrine which has come down to us from antiquity and has been observed by all people, whether civilized or barbarous, except this Company and Government officials of the United States. "A shipper or vessel-owner of the Pacific coast is in no condition to resist the power of an oppressor when his vessel is seized and beached upon an inhospitable and lawless shore, his cargo scattered to the four winds of heaven, and his crew imprisoned in an inaccessible port. The only additional requisite to make this system all-powerful seems to be the annexing of Siberia to the lease, and the transporting of these so-called pirates to its penal mines. The same theory of ' adjacency ' would certainly apply. "Through this policy of Government officers permitting this Company to extend its powers under the lease, the Government will surely lose in the end perhaps the greatest and most profitable industry in the world, namely, the seal fisheries of Alaska. "The fishery question now agitating the New England States, and the interests involved there, are a mere bagatelle to those of the Alaska fisheries. " It is charged that our American fishermen are exterminating the seals in Behring's Sea, and they have ' piratically,' during the season of 1886, captured 200,000 seals in excess of the number authorized to be taken by the Alaska Commercial Company at the islands. This is the statement in a letter to a San Francisco paper, dated the 20th February, 1887, of Lieutenant J. C. Cantwell, an officer employed in the United States' Revenue Service, stationed in Alaskan waters. But this is contradicted by the records of our Courts, which show that only 577 fur-seal skins were seized on American vessels last [I'^iS] H 2 i f I 1 ''■ 62 season, and proof was offered, but not admitted, that these were caught in the Pacific Ocean ; and M. Phillipens, the Russian agent of the Alaska Commercial Company, iu his Report of the catch of that Company for the season of 188G, states that the Company killed 202,000 fur-seals in the waters of Behring's Sea. So that, on the testimony of the Company itself, these so-called ' piratical ' American fishermen are not engaged in the work of extermination to any serious extent, but this Company is engaged in that work. The same Lieutenant Cantwell, who is an ardent (but incoherent) writer, in the same communication, states that not one-half the number of seals are killed that should be, because they are increasing so rapidly ; and we feel just cause of complaint that American fishermen are arrested and their propuiiy confiscated for doing that which the Alaska Commercial Company is permitted to do in violation of a lease which restricts its catch to the Islands of St. Paul and St. George. " Court Decisions disregarded. " Under the decisions of our Courts, and the opinion of the Treasury Department, as given in 1872, every citizen has a right to fish for fur-seals in the waters of Behring's Sea when distant a full marine league from the shore. " But these decisions and former rulings of the Treasury Department are disregarded, and no one except this Company is permitted to kill seals anywhere in Behring's Sea. "At a time when Congress is making an effort to protect the fisheries of the Atlantic coast, the officers of the Government on the Pacific coast, with singular inconsistency, are destroying and preying upon the commerce of its own citizens. " It is to be hoped that this mistaken policy of the Government officials will be changed upon investigation of their conduct and that of the lessees of the Government, and that the great injury heretofore committed, and about to be repeated, upon our fishing-vessels by them, will be prevented. " We make tiiis statement because we have been despoiled of our property. One of our vessels, the ' San Diego,' seized and taken to Sitka and condemned, her cargo of seal-skins, taken in the open sea, left in the care of the Alaska Commercial Company's warehouse at an ".land in mid-ocean; the voyage of another schooner, the 'Sierra,' broken up and destroyed ; because our efforts to procure the signature of the Judge of the District Court of Alaska to a summary statement of the facts of the cases, for trans- mission to the Secretary of the Treasury, for a remission of the forfeiture, have been disregarded and ignored at thp instigation of the Company, whose own attorney acted as special counsel for the Government in procuring said forlViture; because our Petition and requests to the Secretary of the Treasury, made nioiiths ago for relief", and to bring said property within reach of a civilized community, to prevent its utter destruction by rot and decay, remain unnoticed and unanswered ; because it is understood that large appro- priations are about to be made for the purpose of enabling Eevenue cruizers to continue their policy of preying upon American commerce in Behring's Sea, and guarding those waters as a closed sea. And it is respectfully suggested that the subject-matter be submitted to the Law Officers of the Government, that instructions may bo issued and published by the Treasury Department to Revenue Marine officers, to guide them in the proper execution of the laws relating to Alaskan waters, so that all persons engaged in seal fishing may understand their rights in this branch of our domestic commerce. " Impressed with the belief that we have exhausted our efforts to obtain either a hearing or redress is our apology for appealing to the Chief Executive of the nation. " With great respect, yours, &c. (Signed) " L. N. Handv and Co." No. 33. Colonial Office lo Foreign Office. — {Received April 2.) Sir, Downing Street, April 2, 1887. WITH reference to previous correspondence, I am directed by Secretary Sir H. Holland to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, copy of a telegram from the Governor-General of Canada inquiring whether owners of vessels now fitting out for this year's trip to Behring's Sea may depend upon being unmolested by United States' cruizers when not near land. I am to request that inquiry may be made of the United States' Government on this :93 1 the Pacific ipany, iu his he Company imony of the jaged in the in that work, in the same t should be, lat American I the Alaska 3 its catch to spartment, as Jehring's Sea disregarded, a;'s Sea. the Atlantic isistency, are cials will be Government, id, upon our rty. One of her cargo of il Company's the ' Sierra,' the Judge of les, for irans- e, have been ney acted as etition and to bring said n by rot and u'ge appro- to continue tliose waters ubmitted to ished by the execution of fishing may tain either a lation. AND Co." I 2, 1887. tary Sir H. a telegram w fitting out lited States' iient on this &'i point, and that Sir H. Holland may be informed of the answer which Lord Salisbury desires should be returned to the Governor-General. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. 'i.::'y'- I ' Inclosure in No. 33. The Marquis of Lnnsdowne to Sir H. Holland. (Telegraphic.) Ma/-cA 31, 1887. OWNERS of vessels now fitting out for this year's trip to Behring's Sea mquu-e whether they may depend upon being unmolested by United States' cruizers when not near land. Please telegraph reply. No. 34. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. West. Sir, Foreign Office, April 2,1881. ' * I HAVE to request that you will inquire of the United States' Government whether the owners of vessels at present fitting out for this year's trip to Behring's Sea may depend upon not being molested by United States' cruizers when not near the land. T You will be good enough to inform me on this subject by telegraph. V I have further to instruct you to ascertain from the United States' Government ^< whether they have received the documents connected with the seizure of British vessels ' last autumn in Behring's Sea, which were referred to in your despatch of the 4th February last. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 35. Sir L, West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received April 1 1 .) My Lord, Washington, March 29, 1887. I HAVE the honour to report to your Lordship that the United States' steam-ship "Thetis " has sailed ^rom New York, and will proceed round Cape Horn and up the west coast to Alaska. It is reported that the Secretary of the Treasury has received a letter from the Alaska Ocnmercial Company, complaining that private parties arc taking seals in the waters about Alaska, and asking for more Revenue cutters to be sent for their r protection. Thv Company further ask that the United States' Government should prohibit all killing of seals within the eastern half of Behring's Sea, or from a point it beginning at Behrng's Straits, and passing from the north-west end of St. Lawrence Island "■.; in a south-easterly directiori to the Island of Attou, at the extreme westerly point of tiie Aleutian Archipelago. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. No. 36. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received April 11.) ; My Lord, Washington, April 2, 1887. I HAVE the honour to inform your Lordship that the Commander of the United 1 States' Revenue cutter " Gallatin " has been cited to ajjpcar before the Admiralty Court in [the Boston district to answer to the allegation that in June last, while in command of the j United States' steamer " Corwin," he took by force from the American schooner " Sierra" [her arms and ammunition, at a point in the open sea 30 miles north of Ounalaska, while she was navigating the waters of the North Pacific Ocean on a hunting and fishing expedition, thus breaking up her voyage, to the damage of the plaintifl's of 2'2,500 dollars. I have instructed Her Majesty's Consul at Boston to watch this case, and report the decision of the Court. I have, &c, (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. ,lj '., 54 No. 37. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Satisbttry. — (Received by telegraph, April 13.) My Lord, Washlagton, April 13, 1887. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of the 2nd instant, I have the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith copy of a note which I addressed to the Secretary of State, as well as a copy of the reply thereto, stating that the records of the judicial proceedings in the cases of the British vessels seized in Behring's Sea were received at the State Department on Saturday last, and are now under examination, and that the remoteness of the scene of the fur-seal fisheries has delayed the Treasury officials in framing appropriate Regulations and issuing orders to the United States' police vessels which information I had the lionour to telegraph to your Lordship this day. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure 1 in No. 37. ' * Sir L. West to Mr. Bayard. Sir, Washington, April 4, 1887. IN view of the approaching fishing season in Behring's Sea, and the fitting out of vessels for fishing operations in those waters, Her Majesty's Government have requested me to inquire whether the owners of such vessels may rely on heing unmolested by the cruizers of the United States when not near land. Her Majesty's Government are also desirous to know whether the documents referred to in your note of the 3rd February last, connected with the seizure of certain British vessels beyond the 3-mile limit, and legal proceedings connected therewith, have been received, and I have the honour, tiierefore, to request you to be good enough to enable me to reply to these inquiries on the : 1 1 of Her Majesty's Government with as little delay as possible. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. t ■! Inclosure 2 in No. 37. Mr. Bayard to Sir L. West, , Sir, ■ Department of Stale, Washington, April 12, 1887. 1 HAVE the honour to acknowledge your note of the 4th instant, relative to the fisheries in Behring's Sea, and inquiring whetlier the documents referred to in my note of the 3rd February, relating to the cases of seizure in those waters of vessels charged with violating the laws of the United States regulating the killing of fur-seals, had been I'eceived. The records of the judicial proceedings in the cases in the District Court in Alaska referred to were only received at this Department on Saturday last, and are now under examination. The remoteness of the scene of the lar-seal fisheries, and the special peculiarities of that industry, have unavoidably delayed the Treasury officials in framing appropriate Regulations, and issuing orders to United States' vessels to police the Alaskan waters for the protection of the fur-seals from indiscriminate slaughter, and consequent speedy extermination. The laws of the United States in this behalf are contained in the Revised Statutes relating to xVlaska in sections l9oU-1971, and have been in force for upwards of seventeen years, and prior to the seizures of last summer but a single infraction is known to have occurred, and that was promptly punished. The question of instructions to Government vessels in regard to preventing the indiscriminate killing of fur-seals is now being considered, and I will inform you at the earliest day possible what has been decided, so that British and other vessels visiting the waters in question can govern themselves accordingly. .■■■/, .:■,.■ i I have, &c. (Signed) T. F. BAYARD. 55 ">.{;, Annex. '. !■>■ .*■ nil 13.) ril 13, 1887. t, I have the dressed to the records of the ng's Sea were amination, and easury officials police vessels .LE WEST. oril 4, 1887. e fitting out of lave requested lolested by the he documents zure of certain herewith, have }od enough to •nment with as -LE WEST. ■il 12, 1887. relative to the to in my note vessels charged seals, had been trict Court in I are now under peculiarities of ig appropriate ilaskan waters jquent speedy ;vised Statutes s of seventeen cnown to have (reventing the rm you at the essels visiting BAYARD. pr-f; •i ..'..il'irr !•'!' ...!' . . Chapter III. ;i Provisions relating to the Unorganized Territory of Alaska, Section. 1954. Custcms, &c., Laws extended to Alatka. 1955. Importation of Fire-arms and Distilled Spirits m.iy be prohibited. 1956. Killing of l-'i'r-bcaring Animals prohibited. 1967. Wlint Courts to have jurisdiction of offences. .... 1958. Kemissiou of Fines, &c. 1959. Saint Paul and Saint George Wands declared Special Reservations, 1960. Killing of Seal upon them proliilntcd except in certain months. 1961. Killing of certain Seal prohibited. 19052. Limit to number of Seals to be killed. 1963. liight to take Seal may be leased. 1964. Bond. 1965. Who may lease. 19C0. Covenants in Lease. 1967. Penalty. 1968. Penalty u])on Lenses. 1969. Tax upon Seal-skins. 1970. Lease may be terminated. 1971. Lessees to furnish Copies to Masters of their Vessels. 1972. Certain Sections may be altered. 1973. Agents and As-istants to manage Seal Fisheries. 1974. Their pay, &c. 1975. Not to bo interested in right to take Seals. 1976. Agents may administer certain Oaths and take Testimony. Sec. 1954. The laws of tlie United States relating to customs, commerce, and navigation are extended to and over all the main-land, islands, and waters of the territory ceded to the United States by the Emperor of Russia by Treaty concluded at Washington on the 30lh day of March, a.d. 1867, so far as the same may be applicable thereto. Sec. 1 OS.*). The President shall have power to restrict and regulate or to prohibit (he importation and use of fire-arms, ammunition, and distilled spirits into and within the Territory of Alaska. The exportation of the same from any ; other port or place in the United States, when destined to any port or place in ; that Territory, and all such arms, ammunition, and distilled spirits, exported or ' attempted to be exported from any port or place in the United States and destined for such Territory, in violation of any regulations that mpy be pre- scribed under this section, and all such arms, ammunition, and distilled spirits landed or attempted to be landed or used at any port or place in the Territory, in violation of such regulations, shall be forfeited ; and if the value of the same exceeds 400 dollars the vessel upon which the same is found, or from which they have been landed, together with licr tackle, apparel, and furniture and cargo, shr.ii be forfeited ; and any person wilfully violating such regulations shall be fined not more than 500 dollars, or imprisoned not more than six months. Bonds may be required for a faithful observance of such regulations from the master or owners of any vessel departing from any port in the United States having on board fire-arms, ammunition, or distilled spirits, when such vessel is destined to any pace in the Territory, or if not so destined, when there is reasonable ground of suf.picion that such articles are intended to be landed therein in violation of law ; and similar bonds may also be required on the landing of any Such articles in the Territory iiom the person to whom the same may be consigned. Sec. in')G. No person shall kill any otter, mink, marten, sable, or fur-seal, or other fur-beurin^^ animal within tiic limits of Alaska Territory, or in the waters thereof; and every person u,uilty lliereof shall, for each oflFence, be fined not less than 200 nor more than 1,000 dollars, or imprisoned not more than six months, or both ; and ail vessels, their tackle, apparel, furniture, and cargo, found engaged in violation of this section shall be forfeited ; but the Secretary of the Treasury shall have power to authorize the killing of any such mink, mai-ten, sable, or other fur-bearing animal, except fur-seals, under such regulations as he may prescribe; and it shall be the duty of the Secretary to prevent the killing of any I'ur-seal, and to provide for the execution of the provisions of this section •.!•■; (^ ( .Al .V ,5 * Customs, &c., Laws extended to Alaska. 27 July, 1868, c. 278, rt I. V. l,"), p. 240. Importation and use of fii-c-arma nnd diBtillcd spirits may be prohibited. 27 Julv, 1863, c. 278, i. i, v. l,"-., p. 241. Killing of fur-bcarlng animals prohibited. 2" July, 1868, c. 273, B. 6, V. 15, p. 249. 56 I i What Conrti hare juriadiotinn or oflencca. 27 July, 1888, c 273, a. 7, T. 15, p. 241. IJuly, 1870, (•. 1S9, a. 7, T. 16, p. 18.'. Remiaslon of fines, &e. 27 July, 1868, c. 273, a. 8, T. 15, p. 24'. ^aint Paul and ^aint George Islanda declared apcclal rescrvationa. 3 Mar., UC,9. lies. No. 22, V. 15, p. 348. Killing of seal upon them prohibited eicept ia certain months. 1 July, 1870,0.189, a, 1, T. 16, p. 180. Killing of certain scat prohibited. 1 July, 1870, 0. 189. B. 2, V. 16, p. 180. Limit lo number of seals to be killed. 1 July, 1870, c. 189, 8. 3, V. 86, p. 180. until it is otherwise provided by law ; nor shall he grant any special privileges under this seetion. Sec. 1957. Until otherwise provided by law, all violations of this chapter, and of the several laws hereby extended to the Territory of Alaska and the waters thereof, committed within limits of tiie same, shall be prosecuted in any District Court of the United States in California or Oregon, or in the District Courts of Washington ; and the Collector and Deputy Collectors appointed lor Alaska Territory, and any person authorized in writing liy either of them, or by the Secretary of the Treasury, shall have power to arrest persons and seize vessels and incichandizc liable to fines, penalties, or forfeitures under this and the other laws extended over the Territory, and to keep and deliver the same to the Marshal of some one of such Courts ; and such Courts shall have original jurisdiction, and may take cognizance of all cases arising under this Act and the several laws hereby extended over the Territory, and shall proceed therein in the same manner and with the like effect as if such cases had arisen within the District or Territory where the proceedings are brouj;lit. Sec. 1 9.58. In all cases of fine, penalty, or forfeiture embraced in the Act approved the 3rd March, 1797, ch. 13, or mentioned in any Act in addition to or aiiiciidatory of such Act, that have occurred or may occur in the collection district of Alaska, the Secretary of the Treasury is autiiorized, if in his opinion the tine, penalty, or forfeiture was incurred without wilful negligence or intention of fraud, to ascertain the facts in such manner and under such regu- lations as he may deem proper without regard to the provisions of the Act above relci red to, and upon tlie facts so to be ascertained, he may exercise all the l)o\ver of remission conferred upon him by that Act, as fully as he might have done iiad stich facts been ascertained under and according to the provisions of that Act. Sec. 1959. Tlielslandsof Saint Paul and Saint George, in Alaska, are declared a special reservation for Government purposes ; and until otherwise provided by law it shall be unlawful for any person to land or remain on either of those islands, except by the authority of the Secretary of the Treasury ; and any person found on either of those islands contrary to the provisions hereof shall be summarily removed ; and it shall be the duty of the Secretary of War to carry this section into effect. Sec. I960. It shall be unlawful to kill any fur-seal upon the Islands of Saint Paul and Saint George, or in the waters adjacent thereto, except during the months of June, July, September, and October in each year; and it shall be unlawful to kill such seals at any time by the use of fire-arms, or by other means tending to drive the seals away from those islands ; but the natives of the islands shall have the privilege of killing such young seals as may be necessary for their own food and clothing during other months, and also such old seals as may be required for their own clothing, and for the manufacture of boats for their own use ; and the killing in such cases shall be limited and con- trolled by such regulations as maybe prescribed by the Secretary of the Treasury. Sec. 1961. It shall 1 unlawful to kill any female seal, or any seal less than one year old, at any seaso^i of the year, except as above provided ; and it shall also be unlawful to kill any seal in ihe waters adjacent to the Islands of Saint Paul and Saint George, or on the beaches, cliffs, or rocks where they haul up from the sea to remain ; and every person who violates the provisions of this or the preceding section shall be punished for each offence by a tine of not not less than 200 dollars, nor more than 1,000 dollars, or by imprisonment not nioic than six months, or by both such fine and imprisonment ; and all ves^seLs, their tackle, apparel, and furniture, whose crews are found engaged in the violation of either this or the preceding section, shall be forfeited to the United States. Sec. 1962. For (he period of twenty years from the 1st July, 1870, the number of fur-seals which may be killed for their skins upon the Island of Saint Paul is limited to 75,000 per annum ; and the number of fur-seals which may be killed for their skins upon the Island of Saint George is limited to 25,000 per annum ; but the Secretary of the Treasury may limit the right of killing, if it becomes necessary for the preservation of such seals, with such proportionate reduction of the rents reserved to the Government as may be proper ; and every person who knowingly violates either of the provisions of this section .-'hall be punished as provided in the preceding section. . , .i -i;;: <j,' ;*rre{ iakii ihe W is Csp mail enga not inepo duly .1 , Islam ,.,|bond 'Conf taki lind 57 special privileges of this chapter, Alaska and the osecuted in any ir in the District jctors appointed either of them, est persons and irfeitures under keep and deliver id such Courts all cases arising • the Territory, like effect as if proceedings are iced in the Act :t in addition to in the collection f in his opinion negligence or ider such regu- )f the Act above exercise all the night have done ions of that Act. ska, are declared •ise provided by I either of those isury ; and any i hereof shall be f War to carry the Islands of except during and it shall IS, or by other the natives of lis as may be and also such manufacture of mited and con- f the Treasury. seal less than ; and it shall ands of Saint they haul up I'isions of this a fine of not imprisonment nent ; and all id engaged in irfeited to the uly, 1870, the the Island of ir-seals which is limited to the right of lis, with such it as may be visions of this ' Sec. l!)63. When the lease heretofore made by the Secretary of the ^Treasury to "The Alaska Commercial Company," of the right to engage in laking fur-seals on the Islands of Saint Paul and Saint George, pursuant to the Act of the 1st July, chapter 189, or when any future similar leaso expires, or is surrendered, forfeited, or terminated, the Secretary shall lease to proper and E sponsible parties, for the best advantage of the United States, having due gard to the interests of the Government, the native inhabitants, their comfort, maintenance, and education, as well as to the interests of the parties heretofore engaged in trade and the protection of the fisheries, the right of taking fur-seals on the islands herein named, and of sending a vessel or vessels to the islands ^r the skins of such seals, for the term of twenty years, at an annual rental of pot less than 50,000 dollars, to be reserved in such lease and secured by a aeposit of United States' bonds to that amount ; and every such lease shall be duly executed in duplicate, and shall not be transferable. t See. 1 904. The Secretary of the Treasury shall take from the lessees of such Islands in all cases a bond, with securities, in a sum not less than 500,000 dollars, conditioned for the faithful observance of all the laws and requirements of Congress, and the Regulations of the Secretary of the Treasury, touching the "taking of fur-seals and the disposingof the same, and for the paj'ment of all taxes hnd dues accruing to the United States connected therewith. Sec. 1965. No persons other than American citizens shall be permitted, by lease or otherwise, to occupy the Islands of Saint Paul and Saint George, or ieither of them, for the purpose of taking the skins of fur-seals therefrom, nor ■hall any foreign vessels be engaged in taking such skins; and the Secretary of the Treasury shall vacate and declare any lease forfeited if the same be held or ibperated for the use, benefit, or advantage, directly or indirectly, of any persons bther than American citizens. See. 1966. Every lease shall contain a covenant on the part of the lessee |hat he will not keep, sell, furnish, give, or dispose of any distilled spirits or spirituous liquors on either of those islands to any of the natives thereof, such person not being a physician and furnishing the same for use as medicine ; and every Revenue officer, officially acting as such, on either of the islands, shall seize and destroy any distilled or spirituous liquors found thereon ; but such officer shall make detailed Reports of his doings in that matter to the Collector of the port. . Sec. 1967. Every person who kills any fur-seal on either of those islands, t^r in the waters adjacent thereto, without authority of the lessees thereof, and jBvery person who molests, disturbs, or interferes with the lessees, or either of iheni, or their agents or employes, in the lawful prosecution of their business, under the provisions of this chapter, shall for each offence be punished as prescribed in section 1961 ; and all vessels, their tackle, apparel, appurtenances, and cargo, who crews are found engaged in any violation of the provisions of sections 1965 to 1968, inclusive, shall be forfeited to the United States. Sec. 1968. If any person or Company, under any lease herein authorized, knowingly kills, or permits to be killed, any number of seals exceeding the number for each island in this chapter prescribed, such person or Company shall, in addition to the penalties and forfeitures herein provided, forfeit the whole number of the skins of seals killed in that year, or, in case the same have jbeen disposed of, then such person or Company shall forfeit the value of the fame. Sec. 1969. In addition to the annual rental required to be reserved in every ease, as provided in section 1963, a revenue tax or duty of 2 dollars is laid upon leach fur-seal skin taken and shipped from the Islands of Saint Paul and Saint ^eorge, during the continuance of any lease, to be paid into the Treasury of the "Uhited States ; and the Secretary of the Treasury is empowered to rnake all needful regulations for the collection and payment of the same, and to secure the comfort, maintenance, education, and protection of the natives of those islands, and also to carry into full efl'ect all the provisions of this chapter except as other- wise prescribed. Sec. 1970. The Secretary of the Treasury may terminate any lease given :to any person. Company, or Corporation on full and satisfactory proof of the ^iolation of any of the provisions of this chapter or the regulations established ,U}y him. I [128] 1 Riglit to Uke iMt may b« leMed. iJuIy, 1870,0. 18», u. 4, 6, ud 6, T. It, pp. 180, 181. Bond. 1 July, 1870, 0. 189, B. 4, V. 1«, p. 180. Who may lease. 1 July, 1870, c. 180, ■. S, T. It, p. 181. CoTenants in leaae. 1 July, 1870, c. 189, I. 5, T. IS, p. 181. Penalty. 1 July, 1870, e. 189. B. e, V. 16, p. 181. Penalty upon leasees. 1 July, 1870, c. 189, B. S, r. 16, p. 181. Tax upon Bcal-akms. 1 July, 1870, C.I 89, a. 6, T. 16, p. 181. leaae may be tennl. Dated. 1 July, 1870, c. 189, •. 6, r. 16, p. 168. 'I ■**" IjeBttcori to furninh L'opicK to niiutcrx ol their vcbblOh. IJiiI.V, 1S70, 1-. 18!i, n. 1, V. 1(1, |i. IHO. ('orUin sections may bo altcrcil. 1 July, l!<70, 1'. 189, B. 8, V. Ill, |i. 182. AgcntH and a«sivtnnlH to manage seal Qahcriea. SMarcli, IS":!, e. 31, B. 1, V. 17, p. ;ifl. Tlieir pay, \e. SMurcli, 1872, c. 31, ». 1, V. 17, p. 36. l7ot to be interested in right tn talte seals. 6 March, lS7l!, e. 31, a. 1, V. 17, p. 3."i. Agenld may adminii<- tor certain uallm and take testimony. C March, IS"'-', c. 31,. 8. 3, V. 17, p. 35. 08 Si;c. 1971. The lessees shall furnish to the several masters of vessels employed by them certified eopit^s of tlii' leuse held by them respectively, which siiall be presented to the Govcrinncnl Revenue officer for the time being who may 1)0 in cluiri^e at the islands as the authority of the party for landing and Utk'uv: skins. Sec. 1072. Congress may at any time hereafter alter, amend, or repeal sections from 19G0 to 1971, both inclusive, of this chapter. Sec. 1973. The Secretary of the Treasury is authorized to appoint one Agent and three Assistant Agents, who shall be charged with tiie management of the seal fisheries in Alaska, and the performance of such other duties as may be assigned to them by tiie Secretary of the Treasury. Sec. 1974. The Agent shall receive the sum of 10 dollars each day, one Assistant Agent the sum of 8 dollars each day, and two Assistant Agents the sum of () dollars eacli day while so employed ; and they shall also be allowed their necessary travelling expenses in going to and returning from Alaska, for which expenses vouchers shall be presented to the proper accounting officers of the Treasury, and such expenses shall not exceed in the aggregate 600 dollars each in any one year. Sec. 197.'). Such Agents shall never be interested, directly or indirectly, in any lease of the right to take seals, nor in any proceeds or profits thereof, eitlier as ovvnei', agent, partner, or otherwise. Sec. 1976. Sueii Agents are empowered to administer oaths in all case- relating to the service of tiie United States, and to take testimony in Alaska for tiie use of tiie Goveninieiit in any mutter concerning the public revenues. i ;l- h ■' !: ti -■■! ! No. ;J8. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received May 17.) My Lord, Washington, May G, 18S7. WITH reference to my despatch of the 2nd April last, I have the honour to inform your Lordship that the case of the owners of the American ship3 seized for sealing in Ik'iiring Sea against the Captain of the United States' cruizer " Corwin " has been postponed until the Government is prepared for the defences. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. No. 39. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received June 10.) My Lord, Washington, May 30, 1887. r HAVE the honour toinclo.se to yom* Lordship herewith a statement which lias appeared in the New York "Times," showing that the United States' Govermncnt persistently combated the pretension of Russia to absolute dominion over tiie Kamschatkan and Bchring Seas previous to the cession of Alaska, I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Incloaurc in No. 39. Extract from the Neiv York " Times" of May 29, 1887. Not X Landlocked Ska. — Helease op the British Sealers justified. - The so-called controversy with respect to the Alaskan seal fisheries and American rights to exclusive jurisdiction over tlic water.s of Bchring Sea has recently been made llie subject of more misrepresentation to the square inch than almost any other pending (iM i^^'; asters of v s[)c'ctively, wliich ic l)L'iiig who Miav luliiiK and taking .iiiond, or repeal I to appoint one the management iicr duties as may irs each clay, one istant Agents the also be allowed from Alaska, ibr anting officers oi •egate 600 dollars or indirectly, in its thereof, either )aths ill all case- Dny in Alaska for D revenues. 7.) , May G, 1887. c the honour to ships seized for r " Corwin " has ILLE WEST. 0-) .' . May 30, 1887. tement which ]ia> tes' Government linion over tlie ILLE WEST. IS JUSTIFIKT).- s and Anicrieaii lently been made ny other pending 59, topic of pulflic diftcussion. It hu.s been represented that an elaborate ('onfercnec on this nucstion is now in pr(>ij;ress between the .State Depiirlmcnt and tlie liiilisli Minister in Washini'ton. Mr. Frederick W. Seward appears to iiave indiibed this impression, ami lias 8u<'i;est.ed several profound eonundnuiis lobe ])r()posed liy Secretary JJayard I o theJJritish Muiister in the projjress of the controversy. There is no Conference in jtro^iciss on this matter. AVIion the President, for reasons satisfactory to himself, ordered the release of the British scaling vessels captured by an American Revenue cutter more than ',\ miles from shore in Behring Sea that action had the effect of a pardon, and closed all discussion as to the legality of the ca])tures. Rut there arc some historical facts in connection with the (jucstion whicli will probably suggest an exceedingly strong inference. Mr. Henry W. E.iiott, of the Smithsonian ln.stitution, wlio is stated to have i)asscd Bovcral sea:^ons in the islands of the Belning Sea, and to be one of the best-informed men in the United States on the subject of jurisdiction over the waters of that " landlocked sea," as he calls it, has recently contributed to tlic prevailing wrong impressions two important statements, which are in direct conllict with oliicial records easily accessible. This whole (luestion has so important a hearing upon our present controversy witii (iieat Britain on tlic subject of the Canadian fi-shcries and tlie right claimed by our Canadian neighbours to hamper the deep-sea fisheries of the United States that ii is worthy of dose examination. Mr. Jilliott takes substantially this ])osition : — 1. That when the Thnperor of Russia, by tlic Ukase of 1821, declared the absolute dominion of the Russian Chown over all l{ussian American territory and seas and liays, including the Kamschatkan or Behring Sea, no protest was made against this assertion of authority by Jlu.ssia, and none has ever been made since by any civilized Power until last year. 2. That the claim made by the United States about this period related to the iS'orth Pacific Ocean only, and that the United States never, in all the corres])ondenco between the years 1822 and 1824, made the slightest reference to or asked for any rights or privileges in the Behring Sea. What are the facts ? A translation of the Ukase of L821 is iniblishod in •• British and Foreign State Papers," vol. ix, p. 472. ft, distinctly sets out that " the pursuits of commerce, Avhaling, and fishery, and of all other industry on all islands, ports,, and gulfs, including the whole of the north-west coast of America, bcsinning from r.ehring- Strait (the northern boundary of liehring Sea) to the r>lst degro of northern latitude, also from the Aleutian Islands to the eastern coast of Siberia, as well as along the Knrilo Islands, from Behring Strait to the south cape of the Island of Unip, is exclusively granted to liussian subjects," and foreign vessels arc interdicted from approaching within 100 Italian miles of the coasts and islands named under iienalty of eonliscation. Having this Ukase before him. .Tohn Quincy Adams, Secretary of State, mi the 2r)th rebruary, 1822, wrote to M. Polctica, the Russian ]\tinister, as follows (the letter is printed in the same volume of State Papers, p. 48:5) : '• I am directed by the President of the United States to inform you that he has seen with surprise in this Edict the assertion of a territorial claim on the part of Russia, extending to the 51st degn>e of north latitude on this continent, and a Regukation interdicting to all commercial vessels other than Russian, upon the penalty of seizure and eonliscation, the approacii upon the high seas within 100 Italian miles of the shores to which the claim is made to apply." Mr. Adams adds : " To exclude the vessels of our citizens from the shores beyond the ordinary distance to which the teiritorial jurisdiction extends has excited still greater surprise," and he closes by asking an explanation. M. Polctica replied, on tiie 28tl- February, 1822 (p. 487) : "The Russian possessions in the Pacific Ocean extend on the north-west coast of America from Behring Strait to the 51st degree of north latitude and on the opposite side of Asia to the islands adjacent from the same strait to the 45ili degree. The extent of sea of "hi(;h these possessions form the limit comprehends all the conditions which are ordinarily attached to shut seas ('niers fermecs'), and the Russian (Jovernment might con.se(|uently judge itself autliorized to exercise upon this sea the right of sovereignty, and especiailv that of entirely interdicting the entrance of foreigners. But it preferred only assertiii"- its essential rights witliout taking any advantage of localities." ft is interesting to look ' at tlie Map and see what the Russian claim really was. Latitude north 51° takes in the southern boundary of the Aleutian Islands to the Sea of Okhotsk. Mr. Adams, in his reply to M. Polctica (same volume, p. 48^). says : " AVitli regard to the suggestion that the Russian Government might have justified the exercise of sovereignty over the Pacific Ocean as a close sea because it claims territory both on the American and Asiatic shores, it may suffice to say that the distance from shore to shore on this sea in latitude 51° north is not less than !)0° of lonj-itude [128] 12 ■■ ' Illl . « m ill ^1 ' oc or 4,000 miles." He ends by saying the President iw porHuadcd the citizens of the United States will romain unmolested in their lawful commerce, and that no effect will bo given to an interdiction manifestly incompatible with their rights. This controversy was ended between the United States and Russia by a Convention signed at St. Peters- burgh on the 17th April. 1S24, in which it was agr^'cd tliat in no part of tlie great ocean, commoriy called the Pacific Ocean or South Sea, should the respective citizens or subjectfi of the High Contracting Powers be disturbed or restrained, either in navigation or fishing, or resorting to the coast for the purpose of trading with the natives, (ireat Britain concluded a similar Treaty in 1825. This Treaty of 1824 remained substantially in force until the cession of Alaska to the United States by Russia. The claim that Behring Sea is a " landlocked sea " with a " firm line pelagic boundary," advanced by Mr. Elliott, is manifestly absurd, in view of the ♦'act that it is about 900 miles from the Aleutian Islands to the Asiatic coast of Russia. But, even assuming that it could have been treated as a land-locked sea at the time of the Ukase of 182 1 by virtue of the possession by one Power of land on both sides, that condition ceased when Russia parted with her territory on one side, just as Great Britain was obliged to abandon her claim to territorial jurisdiction over the Bay of Fundy because the United States owned simply a headland on the other side from her possessiims. The Sea of Okhotsk is one of the seas distinctly referred to in the Ukase of 1821, which called out Adams' protest. Up to 1868, when Russia sold iho Kurile Islands to Japan, this was practically a "land-locked sea, having a firm pelagic boundary," as erroneously claimed by Mr. Elliott in regard to the Behring Sea. Yet in "Diplomatic Correspondence," 1808, p. 462, there is a letter addressed by Secretary of State William H. Seward to Cassius M. Clay, our Minister to Russia, dated the 23rd December, 1867, in which Mr. Seward informed Mr. Clay that much anxiety had been created in the United States by the report that a Russian armed steamer had ordered American whaling-vessels away from the shore near Okhotsk City, in the Sea of Okhotsk, and had fired upon the ship's boat of the bark " Endeavour " of New Bedford. Mr. Seward instructed our Minister to inquire what foundation there was for this report, and what instructions had been given by the Russian Government to authorize this action. At first the Acting Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs contented himself with claiming, not that the Sea of Okhotsk was a closed sea, but raising the same question of the 8-mile line which now forms so prominent a feature in our Canadian fishery troubles, and saying that by the laws in force the American vessel had been properly warned oil' she being within that distance. (This letter is published in "Diplomatic Correspondence," 1868, p. 467.) Subsequently, in reply to another remonstrance from Mr. Seward, stating that American whalers had been whaling in those bays unobstructed for seventeen years, M. Stoeckl, Russian Ambassador, transmits to Mr. Senard (same volume, p. 485) a copy of a Report from the Russian Minister of Marine, in which he admitted that there could not be found in the Department of Marine any trace of instructions given to Russian cruizers to take any restrictive measures tonching the whaling fisheries in the Sea of Okhotsk. This ended the controversy with regard to tliat sea, which at this time was much more entitled to be considerod an inland sen tlian the Behring Sea. One illustration of still later date maybe given. In "Foreign Relations," 1882, p. 447, there is a letter from Secretary of Slate Frelinghuysen to Air. Hoffman, our Charge d'Affaircs at St. Petcrsburgli, conveying a complaint of a San Francisco firm of restrictions put by the Governor oF Eastern Siberia on American li-hermen in the Okhotsk and Behring Seas. This was after the cession of Alaska to the United States. Mr. Hoffman (p. 452) transmits a note from M. de Giers, from which it clearly appears that the Russian Government made no pretence of treating either of those seas as closed seas. 'I'he entire fabric of the attempted censure of the State Department for failure to maintain American interests in the Bcliring Sea is thus thrown to the ground. It is .shown that, so far from acknowledging Behring Sea to be a closed sea, the United States has placed itself on record as vigorously opposing any such assumption, not only with regard to Behring Sea, where there was a distance of 900 miles from shore to shore, but also in regard to the Sea of Okhotsk, which might perhaps have been properly regarded as a land-locked sea. In view of these historical facts, and of the important bearing which the maintenance of this doctrine of free, untrammelled rights of commerce, naviga- tion, and fishing on the open sea, which the United Slates is now engaged in mainlainini; in other quarters where the national interests involved are immeasurably greater, i( requires no spirit of prcphecy to divine that the Revenue cutters "Bear" anil "Rush," -K litizons of the t no effect will lis controversy at St. Peters. 10 pjroat ocean, ve citizens or r in navigation ativoH. Great d substantially m line pelagic that it is about even nssuming ISO of 1821 by in ceased when 'as ol)liged to use the United Jkase of 1821, irilo Islands to boundary," as n " Diplomatic ;tary of State ited the 23rd niety had been er had ordered ea of Okhotsk, New Bedford, for this report, authorize this 1 himself with me question of shery troubles, rly warned oil', rrespondence," stating that ventcen yeans, p. 4Si>) a copy at tlierc could vcn to Russian in the Sea of this time was liitions," 1SS2, Hoffman, our vncisc'o firm of ermcn in the United States. 1 early appears seas as closed t for failure to :round. It is United States not only with i to shore, but iicrly rco'iirdod ortant bearin>i' merco, iiavi<;a- n maintaining ly fijreator, il •and "Ifush," ^ I 61 which have been ordered by the Treasury Department from San Francisco to the Behring Sea, have probably been ordered not to repeat tlio mistake of capturing foreign scalers unless detected flngrante delicto within the unquestioned maritime jurisdiction of the United States, namely, 8 miles from shore. Wasliiiigton, May 28, 1887. No. 40. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received June 28.) Sir, Downing Street, June 27, 1887. WITH reference to previous correspondence respecting the seizure of Canadian scahnj; schooners in Bchring's Sea, I am directed by Secretary Sir Henry Holland to transndt to you, for such action in the matter as tlie Marquis of Salisbury may think proper to take, u copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, inclosing copy of an approved Report of the Privy Council respecting the action of the United States' authorities towards British subjects in these cases, and urging that full reparation may be demanded from the United States' Government. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosure I in No. 40. The Marquis of Lansdoume to Sir H. Holland. Sir, Government House, Toronto, May 21,1 8R7. WITH reference to previous correspondence on the subject of the seizure of Canadian sealing schooners in Behring's Sea, I have the honour to forward herewitii a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council, concurring in a Report of my Minister of Marine and Fisheries, and recommending that the attention of Her Majesty's Government be culled to the grave injustice done by the United States' authorities to British subjects peaceably pursuing their lawful occupations on the high seas, to the delay which has taken place in inquiring into and redressing wrongs committed, to the severe, inhospitable, and unjustifiable treatment of the offlcers and crews of the vessels seized, and to the serious loss inflicted upon owners of the same, in order that full and speedy reparatijn may be made by the United States' Government. I have, &c. (Signed) LANSDOWNE. Inclosure 2 in N" 40. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council for Canada, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council on the IGth May, 1887. ON a Report dated the 0th May, 1887. from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, submitting the following rc'sum^ of facts, with a reference to the Canadian sealing schooners "Carolina," "Onward," and "Thornton," seized by the United States' Revenue cutter "Corwin," in Behring's Sea in the year 1886. The above-named vessels fitted out at Victoria, British Columbia, for seal hunting in the waters of the Pacific Ocean, adjacent to Queen Victoria Islands, Queen Charlotte Islands, and Alaska. At the time of seizure (1st and 2nd August, 1886) they were at a distance of more than 60 miles from the nearest land. They were taken possession of by the United States' cutter, and towed to the port of Oonalaska, where they were detained. The crews of the "Carolina" and "Thornton," with the exception of the captain and one man detained at Oonalaska, were sent by steamer to San Francisco, and there turned adrift, while the crew of the '• Onward " was kept at Oonalaska. At the time of the seizure, the " Carolina " had on board 686 seal-skins, ti;e "Onward" i)00, and the "Thornton" 404. These, as well as the schooners are, so far as the Minister is aware, still at Oonalaska, in possession of the United States' authorities. The master and mate of the "Thornton" were brought for trial before Judge Dawson, J ;% I 62 ill tlio United States' District (.'oiirt at Sitiia, uu Llie .'JOtli AugiiHt, 188(j. Tiic evidence t;ivcn ijy tlio oliiceis of tlie United Slati'ti' Revenue cutter went to s'low that this vessel was Sfi/A'd I'or the oU'ence of takiuff oe;.ls in tiiat portiiin of 15(iinip,','"s Sea ceded to tiic United Slates liy l\u>sia in l.SfiZ, bein.q tlieii at u distuiiic ul' (vom (JO to 70 inilis Ironi St. vieorge's Island. '•"lie .lndu,e cliarucd tiio jury to tlic ciieet tliat, if tiioy believed tiie del'endants to have been sealing in tiie J^cnrinEC Sea, east of tiic 193rd degree of longitude west, they should brini; in a verdict of " Guilty," and assess separate tines or imprisonment. The jury broiigiit, in a verdict of " Guilty." '.riie master of tlie "Thornton" was sentenced to thirty days' imprisonment, and to /lay a tine of 500 dollars, and llio niiitc to tliirry days' iin])risoninciit and a line of 3{K) dollars. The masters -md mates of the "Onward"' and " (Carolina "' were mulcted in similar penalties. On the 2.')rd and 24th September, 188G, Orders in Council were approved by his Kxccllency, the Cio/crnor General, setting forth the ai)ove facts, anJ representing the mjuslice to which Canadian citizens eiiLiiaged in a |)caceal)lc and lawful occupation on the high seas had been suhjcclci', in spile of admitted principles of international law, and in direct opposition to the United Siat-s' contention ol what constitutes common waters on the Aih'.ntic coasts, and co])ies thereof were forwarded to Her Majesty's Government, with a ic(jucst that immediate reparation he; demanded from the United States' G ivermnent. On ll;e 12th November, 188G, Mr. Bayard informed Sir L. West that he was awaitin'4 full and authentic reports of the trial and Judgment in the cases of the.se seizures before furtlicr discussing the matter. On the Sth January. 1887, the Earl of Iddeslcigh adm-essed Sir L. West, deprecating tl delay whicli liad taken place in securing the particulars, calling upon him to urge, with all the force wliicli the gravity of the cases demaiided, the iminediate attention of the United States' (ioverninent to the action of the American authorities in their treatment of ihcse vess ;ls, mates, and crews, and directing him to seek assurance that pending a settlei'icnt of the question, no seizures; of British vessels would be made beyond the 'erritoriai waters of Alaska. On the 9tli January, 1887, Sir L. West wrote to Mr. Bayard, reviewing the whole cati'j, and urging ininiediatc action. On the 12th of the same month Mr. Bayard replied, lApii-i'iii'i; the reasons of the delay, and staling that every possible dispatch had been made in order to procure tiie necessary jiapers. On the .'^nl February Mr. Bayard informed Sir L. West that the documents relative to these seizures Ict't Sitka on tiiu 2(jth January, and might be expected to reach him within a fortnight. In llie nieauiime, h? informed tin; Jhitish Minister that orders had been issued for the discontinuance of all pending proceedings, the discharge of the vessels, and the' release of all iicrsons under arrest in connection with these seizures, and that the concSusioii ol any qi e: tions invoh'cd must be reservei' until the papers relating thereto had arrived. On the 4tii Fi.jruary Sir L. West communicated the above information to his I'kcellriicy the Governor-General. 'I'he Minister further states that from information received from the owners of tlie i-eized vessels, am! I'rom the Collector of Customs at Victoria, British Columbia, he learns thnt James (^'gilvie, .in old man and master of tlie "Carolina," was arrested along with the masters and iiiates of the "Onwiu'd " and ''Thornton," and brought into Court (or trial, but t lat before 'sentence was pronounced he was suffered to wander away in the woods, where I, e died from want and exposure; that the other masters and mates after remaining scvcr.d moniiis in prison were released by order of the (iovernor of Alaska, and turned adrift literally destitute to find their way as iiest they could to tiieir homes 1,000 miles distant, and which could be reached only by a long and costly sea voyage ; that the owners of the condemned vessels have received no intimation from the United States' authoiitie.'- of the release of their vessels or the restoration of the valuable cargo of seal- skins and e<|uipineiits on board, and that they have no information as to the condition in which theii i)rop.:rty is at the present time. The owners are thus left in coiniiletc uncertainty as to when or where their property is to be restored, <ind anticipate serious damage, if not total loss, to their vessels from the tremendous gales which during the past winter have swept the North Pacific coasts. They al>o stale that, knowing well as they do tiie character of the Indians in that vicinity, and apprelu ndiiig that mo very vigilant watch has been kept over their property, they fear that everything movable will have been carried away. If they are compelled to receive the vessels at Got daskii, where they have been detained, it will necessitate the chartering of a steamer, m 'iic uviilcacc t this vessel ,i(lc(l to tlie iiilli's I'roin lilts to have they should iicnl, ami to fine of 300 luuletcd in uvcd by his ;sentiug the itioii on the law, and in 11 waters on iovernmeut, itcJ States' liat he was ese seizures deprecating ) urge, with ition of the reatment of pending a hey on d the ■; the whole 'ard replied, been made s relative to im within a been issued 'essels, and :id that the thereto had tion to his owners of jluinbia, he listed along into Court way in the mates after \iaska, and )tiies l,oOO that the Leii States' o of seal- condition lir property s iioni the ists. They icinity, and ;y fear that the vessels u steamer, with men and sui)])lies, at great expense and a round voyage of some 3,000 miles in order to bring them to Victoria. 'J'lie consequent damage and loss to vessels and cargoes througii detention, and the heavy cost which will be entailed in bi'inging them lo the home port, the owners consider good grounds for claiming consideration from the United States' authorities when the (luestion of reparation is being settled. The Committee concurring in the ibregoing Report of the Minister of Marino and i'"ish('ries advise that your E.xcellency be moved to call the attention of Her Majesty's Governnu lit again to the grave injustice done by the United States' authorities to British subjects, peaceably pursuing their lawful occupations on the high seas, and to the great delay which has taken |)Iace in incpiiring into and redressing the wrongs committed to tli(> severe, inhospitable, and imjustiliable treatiiicut of the officers and crews of the vessels seized, and to the serious loss inflicted upon owners of the same, in order that full and speedy reparation may be made by the United States' Government. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEli, Clerk, Priry Council, Canada. Inclosure 3 in No. 40. Mr. Hamley to Mr. Tllton. Sir, Custom-IInnsr, Victoria, April 215, 1887. IN reply to your letter of the l.'jth instant, I beg to state that none of the masters or mates of tiie vessels seized in Hehring's Sea in August last remain now in im[)ri.s()iinieiit. When the vessels were condemned the .ludge, Mr. Dawson, sentenced masters and mates to fines, wiiich were never paid, and to different terms of imprisonment. Ogilvie, master of the " Carolina," an old man, was arrested and brought into Court, but before the sentence was prouoiinced he wandered away into the woods and died there. The others, after serving a time in prison, were released by an order of the (Jovernor and turned loose literally d( stitute, to find their way home in any way they could. The vessels themselves, "Carolina," "Onward," and "Thornton," are now, as far as we know, in Oonalaska, but unless they have been properly taken care of, which in such a place seems scarcely probable, they must during the winter months have suffered greatly, even if they are still in existence. The skins taken from them are, we believe, stored in the Alaska Eur Company's warehouses at Oonalaska; the guns and ammunition were taken to Sitka, and are in the care of the United States' Marsiial. The chronometers and charts of two of the vessels were left in Ounalaska with the vessels. The chronometer of the other, with one or two boats, was taken, we were told, as evidence to Sitka. No notice whatever respecting the release of the vessels or the delivery of tiieir equipments or of the skins has been received by the owners. No word of any description ha.'- been conveyed to them by the United States' authorities. I have, &c. (Signed) W. HAM KEY. Inclosure 4 in No. 40. Messrs. Came and Mansie to Mr. Tilton. D'iar Sir, _ Victoria, B.C., April 14, 1887. YOUR advice of 2nd instant is to hand. In reply, would say we have not been advised whether the vessels are to be returned to us a( Victoria,' or are we to incur the expense and risk of taking them from Oonalaska, and accept the skins in the condition they may be found, as an oflset in full against the amounts set opposite them ir our claims. Ihe expense and risk of getting then, to" Victoria will lie great, as there is no direct way of transferring men and supplies a distance of Ij.OOO miles. It will necessitate the chartering of a steamer, and, owing to the tremendous gales in the North Pacific the past winter, the vessels may be very r.eriously damaiied, if not totally lost. Knowing the Indians as we do we anticipate eycrvthing "movable will be carried awa)'. m The vessels and skins are left in the carr- of not too friendly a concern, namely, the AIask<a Commercial Company's ageat, alias the United States' Marshal. Remaining, &c. (.Siga'sd) CARNE AND MANSIE. No. 41. Foreig/i Office l« Colomal Office. Sir, F<w(nr/n Ofice, July 8, 1887. I AM directed by the JJtarquis of Salisbury l/i? a«3knti*i4«dgc tbc receipt of your letter of the 27th ultimo i<'la)?t r.«r to the case of the seiswfoe of eerliain British vessels when engaged in seal-fishing last atrt*n«)n in Bchnng's Sea. hi reply, f am to reqiK'-'t Jjat you ^vill state to >^ir H Hofland that, in Lord Salishury's oiMwion, it is very (leE»»*%.*jle that, before any fur1fn«r r(*pire**ntations are made to th(! United ^States' Governmem *ith a view to obtaining rep**at»<wi, Her Majesty's Governnieixt should be in possesrfw* of the recordn of the .)u<(i«^ proceedings in the District Court in Alaska, and instmi^rlions havf been sent by teief|iaii)ift to Sir L. West directing him to request that he may b»> furnished »vith these docunmnts by the United States' Government for the use of Her Majesty's Governi»ent. I am further to request that this Department may be supplied with a «»rtpy of the papers which have been laid before the Canadian Parliament in regard to {.his (juestion. I am, &c. (Signed) JUDl^N PAUN'^ -P^FOTK. *fi No. 42. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L, West. Sir, Foreign Office, July 9, W^W. REFERRING to your despatches* of (he 1.3th Apr an. the 6th and 30th May ksf, and to previous correspondence, 1 transmit, for your m formation, a copy of a fiirtlK" letter from tlic Colonial Otfice rclaiing to the question of the seizure last autur«M of certain British vessels when engaged in seal-fishing in iJehring's Sea.* Before giving you further instructions in regard to this matter, I should be glad - have the opportunity of examining tlie records of the judicial proceedings in the Distri<- Court in Alaska, ami I request that you will at onccajii^yto the Unitcii stales' Secretary of State, and ask that these documents may be fwwwwmi to y«m for the use of Her Majesty's Government. I am, &c. «gned) SALlWiURY. No. 43. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Recef*ed July 22.) My Lord, Washington, July 12, 1887. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of the 8th instant, I have the honour to transmit herewith printed copies of the judicial proceedings in the United States' District Court for the District of Alaska in the several cases of the schooners " Onward," "Carolina," and "Thornton/" proceeded against on a charge of killing fur-seal in Alaska. I have, Ike. (Signed) L. S. 3ACKVILLE WEST. No. 40. * namely, the MANSIE. y/_ 8, 1887. ipt of your vessels when at, in Lord ns are made er Majesty's •neediiigs in Sir L. "West tlie United ">\)y of the is ijuestion. !/ 9, iJ^, th May ^f . of a furtiK' t aiituMM oi' d be ^lad V(- the DistiV' ;s' Secretary use of Her 18I»URY. 12, 1887. the honour litcd States' " Onward," fur-seal in WEST. 65 ■ Inclosure in No. 43. , •■ . .?i ,. -I'l . (c'^o- . J,., i In tite United States District Cotijit, for tue Distkicx op Alaska. The United States, Lihellant, v. The Schooner "Thornton," h - TaMe, ijc.~On Libit of Information for being engaged in the Biiainess of Icilling Fur-seal in Alaska. Transcript of Record. ; ^^ ON the 'iStii day of August, 1880, was filed the followinj? Libel of Information :— In tue District Court of the United States for the District of Alaska. August Special Term, 1886. , To the Honourable Lafayette Dawson, Judge of said District Court : THE libel of infor;nation of M. D. liall, Attorney for the United States for the District of Alaska, who i-rosecutes on behalf of said United States, and being present here- in Court in his proper p'^rson, in the name and on behalf of the said United States, against the schooner "Thornton," lier tackle, apparel, boats, cargo, and furniture, and against all persons intervening for their interest therein, in a cause of forfeiture, alleges and informs as follows : — That Charles A. Abbey, an officer in the Revenue Marine Service of the United States, and on special duty in the waters of the district of Alaska, heretofore, to wit, on the 1st day of August, 1880, within the limits of Alaska tiTritory, and in the waters thereof, and within the civil and judicial district of Alaska, to wit, within the waters of that portion of Bchring Sea belonging to the said district, on waters navigable from the sea by vessels of 10 or more tojis burden, seized the ship or vessel, commonly' called a schooner, the " Thornton," her tackle, apparel, boats, cargo, and furniture, being the property of some person or persons to the said Attorney unknown, as forfeited to the United States, for the following causes : — That the said vessel or schooner was found engaged in killing fur-seal within the limits of Alaska Territory, and in the waters thereof, in violation of section 195(3 of the Revised Statutes of the United States. And the said Attorney saiih that all and singular the premises are and were true, and within the Admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of this Cnurt, and that by reason thereof, and by force of the Statutes of the United States in such cases made and provided, the afore-mentioned and described schooner or vessel, being a vessel of over 20 tons burden, her tackle, apparel, boats, cargo, and furniture, became and are forfeited to the use of the said United States, and that said schooner is now within the district aforesaid. Wherefore the said Attorney prays that the usual process and monition of this honourable Court issue in this behalf, and that all persons interested in the before- mentioned and described schooner or vessel may be cited in general and special to answer the premises, and all due proceedings being had, that the said schooner or vessel, her tackle, app;irel, boats, cargo, and furniture may, for the cause aforesaid, and others appearing, be condemned by the definite sentence and decree of this honourable Court, as forfeited to the use of the said United States, according to the form of the Statute of the said United States in such cases made and provided. (Signed) M. D. BALL, United States' District Attorney for the District of Alaska. AV hereupon forthwith issued the following monition : — District of Alaska, Set., The President of the United States of America to the Marshal of the District of Alaska, greeting : — Whereas a libel of information hath been filed in the District Court of the United States for the District of Alaska, on the 28tli day of August, in the year 188(3, by M. D. Pall, United States' Attorney for the district aforesaid, on behalf of the United States of America, against the schooner "Thornton," her tackle, apparel, boats, cargo, and fnrnit; .. , as forfeited to the use of the United States for the reasons and causes in said libel of information mentioned, and praying the usual process and monition of the said Court in tliat behalf fo be made, and that nil persons interested in the said schooner " Thornton," liur tackle, apparel, boats, cargo, and furniture, &c., may be cited in r neral [128J I ., B , > J ^.t II 66 and special to answer the premises, and all proceedings being had, that the said schooner " Thornton," her tackle, apparel, boats, cargo, and furniture may, for the causes in the said libel of information mentioned, be conde nned as forfeited to the use of the United States. You are therefore hereby commanded to attach the said schooner " Thornton,'' her tackle, apparel, boats, cargo, and furniture, to detain the same in your custody until the further order of the Court respecting the same, and to give notice to all persons claiming the same, or knowing or having anything to say why the same should not be condemned and sold pursuant to the prayer of the said libel of information, that they be and appear before the said Court to be held in and for the District of Alaska, on the 4th October, 1886, at 10 o'clock in the forenoon of the same day, if the same shall be a day of j urisdiction, otherw'se on tlie next day of jurisdiction thereafter, then and there to interpose a claim for the same, and to make their allegations in that behalf. And what you shall have done in the premises do you then and there make return thereof, together with this writ. Witness the Honourable Lafayette Dawson, Judge of said Court, and the seal thereof affixed at the City of Sitka, in the District of Alaska, this 28th day of August, in the year of our Lord 1886 ; and of the Independence of the United States, the 111th. (Seal.) ANDREW T. LEWIS, Clerk. On September 6, 1886, was filed the following affidavit: — In the United States' District Court in and for the District of Alaska, United States of America. The United States of America v. the Schooner " Thornton." United States of America, District of Alaska, ss. C. A. Abbey, being duly sworn, deposes and says : — That he is, and at all times hereinmentioned was, a Captain in the United States' Revenue Marine, and in command of the United States' Revenue-cutter " Corwin." That affiant and the following named officers of said "Corwin" are material and necessary witnesses for the United States in the above entitled action : J. C. Cantwell, Lieutenant ; J. U. Rhodes, Lieutenant ; J. H. Douglass, pilot. That owing to scarcity of provisions and fuel upon said cutter " Corwin," the snid "Corwin "and deponent and said witnesses will be obliged to and arc about to so to sea within five days, and out of the district in which the said case is to bo tried, and to a greater distance than 100 miles from the place of trial of said action before the time of said trial. That there is urgent necessity for taking the depositions of > iHant and said witnesses forthwith. That Hans Guttormscii was master, and in possession of said schooner " Thornton " at the time of seizure thereof. (Signed) C. A. ABBEY. Subscribed and sworn to before me, this Otb day of September, 1886. (Signed) Andrew T. Lewis, Clerk. On the same day was entered the following order : — In the Matter of the United States v. Schooner " Thornton," Case No. 50 ; Schooner "Carolina," Case No. 51; Schooner " Onvmrd," Case No. 49,- Schooner "San Diego," Case No. 52. In the above entitica actions urgent necessity and griod cause appernng therefor from the affidavits of C. A. Abbey, now on motion of M. D. Ball, United States' District Attorney for Alaska, and Counsel for the United States herem, it is ordered that the depositions of the witnesses 0. A. Abbey, J. W. Howinon, J. C. Cantwell, J. U. Rhodes, J. H. Douglass, C. T. Winslow, Albert Leaf, 0. Wilhelm, Thos. Singleton, and T. Lorenseii be taken before the Clerk of the said District Court on Tuesday, the 7th day of September, 1880, at 7 o'clock p.m., or as soon thereafter as the matter can be reached at the olFicc of said Clerk at Sitka, Alaska ; and if not completed on said evening, then said schooner causes in the jf the United hornton,'' her tody until the rsons claiming )e condemned 36 and appear 4th October, 1 be a day of and there to make return and the seal ly of August, d States, the VIS, Clerk. OP Alaska, Fnited States' 'orwin." material and C. Cantwell, " the snid ;c to afo to nn 1)01 'led, and to a e the time of 3aid witnesses '•Thornton' . ABBEY. »0 ; Schooner hooner " San ing therefor ates' District e. ed that the U. Rhodes, igleton, and , the 7th day n be reached svening, then the taking of said depositions to be continued by said Clerk, from time to time, until com- l)letcd. That notice of the time and place of taking said depositions be served by the Marshal of said district on Hans Guttonnsen, James filakc, Daniel Munroe, and Charles K. Raynov, and upon W. Clark, Esq., Attorney at Law, or or before the 7tli September at 12 A.M., and that such shall be due and sufficient and reasonable notice of the taking of said depositions. Done in open Court this Gth day of iSeptembcr, 1886, now at this time W.Clark, Esq., being present in Court, waives service of notice. On the 7th day of Septcraber, 1886, was filed the following notice and return : — ^ In the United States' District Court in and for the District of Alaska, United States of America. The Unilvd States of America v. the Schooner " Thornton." To Hans Giittormsen greeting : you are notified that by < rder of Lafayette Dawson, judge of said District C mrt, the depositions of C. A. Abbey, J. C. Cantwell, J. U. Rhodes, anJ J H. Douglas will be taken before the Ocrk of .said District Court at his ofiice in Sitka in said district on 'lu'isday, the 7th September, 18P0, at 7 o'clock P.M., or as soon thereafter as the matter can bo reached, and if not completed on said evening, the taking of said depositions will be continued by said Clerk trom time to time until completed. Dated the 7th September, 1886. (Signed) ANDREW T. LEWIS, Clerk. United States of America, District of Alaska, ss. This is to certify that on the 7th day of September, 1886, before 12 o'clock noon of that day, 1 served the annexed notice on the within-named flans Guttormsen, at Sitka, District of Alaska, by then and there personally delivering to said Hans Guttormsen a copy of said notice ; and then and there gave him tlie privilege of being present nt the taking of said depositions. Dated the 9th September. 1886. (Signed) BARTON ATKINS, United States' Marshal. On the lOtli September, 18§6, were filed the following depositions : — 'Rsift In the United States' Disteict Court in and for the District of Alaska, United States of America. The United States v. the Schooner " Thornton," No. 50. Depositions of witnesses sworn and examined hofore me on the 7th day of Soptcmber, 1S8", at 7 o'clock p.m. of ,s,iid day, and on the 8th and 9tii September, 1886, ihereaftcr, at the Clerk's Office of said Court in Sitka, District of Alaska, United States of America, by virtue and in pursuance of the order of t) c said Court, luiide and entered in tho above eiititlcd action on tiic Gth Sei)tember, 1880, directing that the testimony and depositions of said witnesses be taken before mo at said lirst-montioned time and place, ari«l at. sui-Ii 8ui)sequent times as tlie takinjj of the same miglit bo continued to by me, in said action then and there pending in said District Court between tlie UnitcQ States as plaintiff and the schooner " Thornton " as defendant, on behalf and at tho in.stan.!e of the said plaintiflF the United States, and upon notice ol the time and place of the taking of said depositions served upon Hans Guttormsen, Die Captain of the said schooner, and in possession thereof at the time of seizure, and upon W. Clark, Esq., his Attorney, the owners thereof being unknown and without the jurisdiction of this Court. Captain C. A. Abbey, being duly sworn, deposes and says : — Q. State your name and occupation.- A. Captain C. A. Abbey, in the United States' Revenue Marine Service, at present in command of the United States' Revenue steamer " Corwin, ' on special duty in Alaskan waters, (or the protection of the Seal Islands and of the Government interests in Alaska generally. [12ti] K 2 i 68 Q. What were you doinc; and what occurred on tlic 1st day of August In.st in the line of your duty P — A. I was cruizing in ikduing- Sea al)out 70 miles soutli-south-east from St. George Fshmd, in alxtut latitude and longitude . 1 found the four boats of the British steam-schooner "'riiornton," of Victoria, British Columhia, engaged in killing fur-seal. Eacli boat had in her from three to eight freshly killed seal, arms, and ammunition, rowers, and hunters, who stated that they belonged to the said scliooner " Thornton," and were engaged in taking or killing fur-seal. Some of them, if not all, were seen shooting at tlio fur-seal which were swinuning in their neighbourhood. On this evidence, I caused tlie vessel to be seized by Lieutenant Cantwell, took her in tow, and proceeded with her to Oonalaska, where 1 placed the vessel, cargo, tackle, furniture, and ai)purtcnanccs in charge of Deputy United States' Marshal Isaac Anderson, of Oonalaska, the cargo of fur-seal skins being stored in " Kcuch," in one of the warehouses of the Alaska Commercial Company, and under seal. One boat of the "Thornton " was sent to Sitka by the schooner "San Diego," and placed in custody of the United Stales' Marshal at Sitka. All of iliis proj)erty is now in the custody of the United Stales' Marslial at Sitka, including her arms and ammunition, whicli I brought to Sitka on the " Corwin." Q. Was this the vessel against which tiie libel of inrdruuition is filed? A. [t is. Q. Did this all occur within tlie waters of Alaska and the Territory of Alaska, and within the jurisdiction of this Court? — A. It did. Q. Did this occui within the waters of the sea navigable for vessels of 10 tons burden or over ? — A. It did. (Signed) C. A. ABBEY. Subscribed .and sworn to before me this 9th day of September, a.d. 1880, after having been read over Ijy me to dei)onent. (Seal.) Anuiiew T. Lewis, Clerk, United States' District Court. y Lieutenant John C, Cf.ntwcll, being duly sworn, deposes and says : — Q. State your name, occupation, and age. — A. John C. Cantwell, Third Lieutenant United States' Revenue Marine Service, at present on duty United States' Ecvenue steamer "Corwin," and over tlie age of 21 years. Q. Were you so on the 1st day of Vugust last ? — A. I was. Q. State what occurred on that day in the line of your duty. — A. I saw a small boat on the port bow ; we came up to her, and found she bad about eight fur-seal aboard. The men in the boat were armed w itii brccch-loading rides. In answer to the Commanding Officer, the men admitted they were killing fur-seal. Shortly after we picked up a second boat, and then sighted the schooner " Thornton." There were dead seal in the second boat. I did not examine the other boats; 1 was sent on board the schooner, saw Hans Guttormsen apparently acting as captain, and Henry Xorman as mate. I asked them what they were doing ? The captain replied, " Catching seals." I signalled this to Captain Abbey, who directed mo to seize luer, which I did, and the " Corwin " took tlio schooner in tow. The fur soal in the boats were bleeding, and must have been killed within a few hours. Q. How many men were on board of the " Thornton " at the time of seizure ?— A. About fifteen. Q. Was this a reasonalde munber for ordinary purposes of commerce and naviga- tion ? — A. It was an unusually large number for the size of the vessel. Q. Do you recognize tins paper ? — A. I do. It is the olUcial inventory made l)y me of the furniture, tackle, and cargo of the schooner "Thornton" (inventory embiaccs the usual furniture, rigging, nautical instruments, boats and stores of a vessel of liiis class, with a cargo of 403 seal-skins, 3 seal-pup skins, and 1 hair seal-skin, and they are receipted for by I. Anderson, Deputy Lhiited States' Marshal, Oonalaska, the 14th August, 188G) ; the item 403 seal-skins mentioned in the inventory are fur seal-skins: this inventory gives a full and correct list of all the furniture, tackle, and cargo of said vessel, with the exception of the following : arms and ammunition, octant, and one chronometer. There is one boat belonging to the " Thornton " that was sent down on the " San Diego" and included in the inventory of the "San Diego." The "Thornton" had four boats, (Signea JOHN C. CANTWELL, lird Lieutenant, United States' Revenue Marine. 69 In.si in tlic line lUtli-cnNt fVom . 1 found isii Coluinbiii, t'rcHlily liillcd lonj^cd to the eal. Somu of ming in their nant Cantwell, ! vessel, cargo, Mar.slial Isaac ich," in one of no boat of tho in custody of custody of the I I brought to A. [t is. jf Alaska, and sis of 10 tons A. ABBEY. \..v. 1880, after Sul)scril)cd and sworn to before mc this 'Jtii day of September, \.u. 188G, after having been read over by nic to deponent. (Seal.) Anujieav T. Lkwis, Ckrk, United States' District Court. ird Ijiculenant tates' Revenue . I saw a small fur-seal aboard, le Commanding ;cd up a second 1 in the second oner, saw Hans I asked Ihcni gnallcd this to win '' took tilt! ive been killc'il of seizure ?— ce and naviga- sntory made liv ntory embiiicts \ vessel of tliis n, and they arc ic 14th August, seal-skins : this of said vessel, le chronometer, on the " Siui nton " had four nilenant, lenue Marine. John U. Rhodes, being duly sworn, deposes and says : — Q. State your name, age, and occupation ? — A. Jolm U. liliodes, over 21 years of age, and Lieutenant in the United States Revenue Marine, and atlacbed to the Revenue earner "Corwin," and was so on the 1st August, ISSt). Q. State what happened on the last-named day in connection with the schooner " Thornton "? — A. I was on the " Corwin " at the time the •' Thornton " was seized on that day. Wo first picked up a boat bearing tiic name " 'i'hornton ;" it had about eight dead fur-seal in it, the men in the boat had breech-loading rifles : we afterwards picked up another boat, and then sighted the schooner " Thornton," and went on board, and was put in charge of her. We afterwards picked up two more boats ; t'ne men in the boats claimed that the boats belonged to the " Thornton," and were put on board of her. There were between fifteen and twenty dead fur seal on deck and one hair-seal. These seal were most of them bleeding and evidently recently killed. The captain and several of the hunters said they had killeil twenty-one, 1 think it was, fur-seals that day, and would have got more if they had had more dayliglit and if the cutler had not come up. Q. Do you recognize these papers ? — A, I do. This paper marked (Ex. " Gr ") is the clearance paper of the schooner " Thornton " (this paper represents the British steam- schooner " Thornton," Hans Guttormscn, master, 22*C!) tons, navigated with fifteen men, bound for the Pacific Ocean, Behring Sea, and Okhotsk Sea, on a hunting and fishing voyage, as having cleared from Victoria, British Columbia, the liJth May, ISSo). This paper marked (E.k. " H ") is her bill of health (issued same date and place with clearance). I found these papers in the schooner " Thornton " at the time of seizure, and then took possession of them. Q. What was the list of arms and ammunition found aboard the schooner " Thornton " at the time of seizure ? — A. ¥ovr rifles, shot-guns, 807 shot-gun cartridges, 420 rifle-gun cartridges, 108 lbs. powder, ' keg powder partly filled, 2 bags bullets, 11 bags buck-shot, "i bo.xes wads, 3.! boxes jjriuicrs. Q. What has become of these arms and ammunition ? — .1. They were delivered to the United States' Marshal at Sitka, and arc now in his custody. (Signed) JOHN U. RHODES, Lieutcmmt, United Slalen' Revenue Marine. Subscribed and sworn to before me this 8th day of September, .a.u. 1880, after having been read over by me to the deponent. (Seal.) Anuiiew T. Lewis, Clfrk, United States' District Court. John U. Rhodes, being duly sworn, deposes and says : — Q. State your name, age, and occupation ?— J. John U. llbodos, Lieutenant United States' Revenue Marine, al present on duty on the United States' Revenue steamer "Corwin,'" and over the age of 21 years, Q. State what nautical instruments, if any, were seized on the schooner " 'i'hornton " except such as are included in her general inventory ?— J. One chronometer, No. i;371, made by Kessels, and one octant. Q. What has become of this property ?—A. I turned it over to the United States' Marshal at Sitka, and it is now in his custody. (Signed) JOHN U. RHODES. Subscribed and sworn to before me this 9th day of September, a.d. 1880, after having been read over by me to deponent. (Seal.) Andbkvv T. Lewis, Cleric, United States' District Court. J. H. Douglass, being duly sworn, deposes and says: — Q. State your name, age, and occupation ?-/i. J. H. Douglass, am over the age of 21 years, am a pilot in the Rcvcuuo Marine Service of the United States, and have beeu FT W' 'I i 70 so for the seven years last past. I am now and on the 1st August, 1886, was pilot on the Revenue steamer " Corwin." Q. State what occurred on the last-named day in connection with the sciiooner " Thornton " ? — A. We sighted a hoat on our port bow and soon after saw another boat, Bteamed to the first boat and ordered her to come alongside, which she did. The name "Steamer Thornton " was on the stern of the boat. There were two or thrue men in the boat with arms, and six or eight dead fur-seoj, which had the appearance of having been lately killed. 1 asked the men what luck they had had. One of them replied, " We have six or eight, but not as good as some days." We took possession of the boat and contents by order of Captain Abbey. We then picked up the second boat, finding it engaged in the same business, then we sighted a schooner drifting without sail or steam, which proved to be the steam-schooner "Thornton," On coming up with her she was seized by order of Captain Abbey and taken in tow. We then picked up two more boats belonging to the "Thornton," having dead fur-seal on board. This was in Behring's Sea, about 65 miles south-east from St. George's Island, and about 500 or 600 miles to the eastward of the western boundary-line of Alaska 'J'erritory. Q. State \rhat experience you have had in the fur-sealing business, and your know- ledge of the habits of the fur-seal ? — A. I have been cruizing for more than fifteen years off and on in Alaskan waters, always as an officer or pilot, and have visited the Pribiloff Islands, St. Paul and St. George, several hundred times, and am perfectly familiar with the sealing business as conducted on those islands, and understand the migrating habits of the fur-seals. From about tlie 1st May to about the 1st July of each year the fur- seal is migrating north, and mostly through the Unimak and Akutan Passes to these islands for breeding purposes. They go to no othpr place in the known world except these islands and Copper Island for breeding purposes. After the breeding season of about a month they begin to migrate south, and until November of each year are migrating south through Behring's Sea. During this season, from May till November, the fur-seal are plenty in the waters adjoining the Pribiloff Islands, and are migrating to .and from these islands, and are at all times very plenty between Unimak Pass and said islands in a track about 30 miles wide, which seems to be their highway to and from said islands. The schooner " Thornton " and her boats when seized were directly on this track. (Signed) J. H. DOUGLASS. Subscribed and sworn to before me this 8th day of September, a.d. 1886, after having been read over by me to deponent, (Seal.) Andrew T. Lewis, Clerk, United States' District Court. In the United States' District Court in and for tee District of Alaska, United States' of America, The United States v. the Schooner " Thornton." No. 50. Whereas, on the 6th day of September, 1886, the said District Court duly made and entered in the journal of said Court an order in the above-entitled action, directing that the testimony and depositions of the v.itnesses: C. A. Abbey, J, C. Cantwell, J. U. Rhodes, and J. H. Douglass be taken before me, the Clerk of said Court, at the time or times and place, and upon such notice as was specified in said order. Now, theretore, this is to certify : — Tiiat in pursuance of said order, on the 7th Sepiemltcr, 188ti, at 7 p.m., each and all of the above-named witnesses appeared before me at the Clerk's olhce of said Court at Sitka, District of Alaska, United States of America : tiiat M. D. Bail, Esq., District Attorney of said Court and District, and W. H. Payson, Esq., appeared then and there on behalf of and as attorneys and proctors for the United States, the libollant iiereiu ; and W. Clark, Esq., then and there appeared on beiialf of, and as Attorney and Proctor for the said schooner and her owners herein ; and Hans Guttormsen then and there appeared in pursuance of notice served upon him. That I was unable to complete the taking of said depositions on said 7th day of September, 1S86, and I continued the taking thereof on the 8th and 9th September, 1886, and completed the same on said last-named day. 'i'hat the said parties by their said Attorneys and Proctors then and there appeared, and were present on eacli of said last- named days, and at all times during the taking of said depositions. That each of said witnesses was first duly cautioned and sworn by me, then and there, that the evidence be %% , was pilot on the schooner another boat, .. The name ;e men in the ' having been replied, " We the boat and }at, finding it Bail or steam, 1 her she was more boats iehring's Sea, miles to the d your know- fifteen years the Pribiloff familiar with [rating habits year the fur- sses to these world except ith, and until 1 this season, the Pribiloff s very plenty lich seems to nd her boats •UGLASS. p. 1886, after I 7th day of smber, 1886, iy their said of said last- ^ach of said evidence he should give in said action, should be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and thereafter each of said witnesses was then and there examined before me, and I then and there took down the statement and testimony of each of said witnesses, and reduced the same to writing in his presence, and then and there read the same over to him ; and he then and there, after the same had been so reduced to writing and read over to him, subscribed the same in my presence, and swore to the truth thereof. That the foregoing depositions are the depositions of said witnesses then and there taken before me as aforesaid. That due notice of the taking of said depositions was given as required by said order. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and the seal of said District Court, this 9th day of September, 1886. (Signed) ANDREW T. LEWIS, Clerk, United States' District Court in and for the District of Alaska, United States of America, On the 20th day of September, 1886, was filed the following claim of Master for Owner : — In the United States' District Court foe the District of Alaska. (In Admiralty.) In the Matter of the Libel of Information against the Schooner " Thornton," her Tackle, Apparel, Furniture, and Cargo, — Claim of Master for Owner, And now Hans Guttormsen, master of the schooner " Thornton " intervening for the interest of J. D. Warren of Victoria, British Columbia, the owner of the said schooner " Thornton," her tackle, apparel, furniture, and cargo, as set forth in the libel of informa- tion herein, appears before this honourable Court and makes claim to the said schooner " Tliornton," her tackle, apparel, furniture, and cargo, as set forth in the said libel of information, and as the same are attached by the Marshal under process of this Court at the instance of M. D. Ball, Esq., United States' District Attorney for the District of Alaska. And the said Hans Guttormsen avers that the said J. D. Warren was in possession of the said schooner at the time of the attachment thereof. And that the said J. D. Warren above named is the true and bond fide owner of the said schooner, her tackle, apparel, cargo and furniture as seized by the said Marshal as aforesaid and that no other person is the owner thereof. Wherefore he prays to defend accordingly. (Signed) HANS GUTTORMSEN. Subscribed and sworn to before me this iSth day of September, A.D. 1886. (Seal) Andrew T. Lewis, Clerk of the United States' District Court for the District of Alaska. W. Clark and D. A. Dinglet, Proctors for Claimant. On the same day was filed the following amended libel of information. In the United States' District Court in and for the District op Alaska, United States' op America. (August Special Term, 1886.) To the Honourable Lafayette Dawson, Judge of said District Court : The amended libel of information of M. D. Ball, Attorney for the United States, for the District of Alaska, who prosecutes on behalf of said United States and being present here in Court in his own proper person, in the name and on behalf of the said United States, alleges and informs as follows, to wit : — That C. A. Abbey, an officer in the Revenue Marine Serv-ce of the United States, duly commissioned by the President of the United States, in command of the United States' Revenue cutter " Corwin," and on special duty in the waters of the District ot Alaska heretofore, to wit on the Ist day of August, 1886, within the limits of Alask I- { 'ii 1 li 79 • Territory, and in the waters thereof, and within the Civil and Judicial District of Alas' ,i, to wit — within the waters of that portion of Bchring's Sea helonf^ing to the United States and said District, on waters navigable from the sea by vessels of ten or more tons burden, seized the schooner "Thornton," her tackle, apparel, boats, cargo, and furniture, being the property of some person or persons unknown to said Attorney. The said property is more particularly described as follows, to wit : — One schooner "Thornton" of Victoria, British Columbia,four boats with oars, sails, and gear; carpenter's and caulking tools and materials: five tons of coal, ten yards of canvas, clock, chronometer, nautical instruments, provisions, sails and running gear, ropes, twine, lamps, oil, casks, buckets, engine and gear, twenty sacks of salt, 4U;J fur-seal skins, one hair-seal skin, three pup-seal skins, four rifles, six shot guns, and arms and ammunition for same and all other property found upon or appurtenant to said schooner. That said C. A. Abbey was then and there duly commissioned and authorized by the proper Department of the United States to make said seizure. That all of said property was then and tliere seized as forfeited to the United States for the following causes : — That said vessel, her captain, officers and crew were then and there found engaged in killing f ■! . jals within the limits of Alaska Territory and within the waters thereof, in violation o section lOiJG of the Uevised Statutes of the United States. That all the said property, after being seized as aforesaid, was brought into the port of Oonalaska in said Territory, and delivered into the keeping of Isaac Anderson, a Deputy United States' Marshal of this District, with the exception of the said arms and ammunition, which latter were brought into the port of Sitlia in said District and turned over to the United States' Marshal of this District and all of said property is now within the Judicial District of Alaska, United States' of America. And the said M. D. Ball, Attorney as aforesaid, further informs and alleges : — That on the 1st day of August, 1886, Henry Xorman, and certain other persons whose names are to said United States' Attorney unknown, who were then and there engaged on board of the said schooner " Thornton " as seamen and seal-hunters, did, under the direction and by tlie authority of Hans Gutlormsen, then and there master ol said schooner, engage in killing and did kill, in the Territory and District of Alaska, and in the waters thereof, to wit, twenty fur-seals, in violation of section 19.56 of the Revised Statutes of the United States, in such cases made and provided. That the said 403 fur-seal skins, three pup-skins, one hair-seal skin, and other goods so seized on board of said schooner " Thornton " constituted the cargo of said schooner at the time of the killing of said fur-seals, and at the time of said seizure. And said Attorney saith that all and singular the premises were and are true and within the Admiralty and Maritime Jurisdiction of the United States and of this Honourable Court, and that by reason thereof, and by force of the Statutes in such cases made and provided, the aforementioned schooner, being a vessel of over twenty tons hurden, and her said tackle, apparel, boats, cargo and furniture, became and are forfeited to the use of the United States. Wherefore the said Attorney prays that the usual process and monition of this Honourable Court issue in his behalf against said schooner and all said hereinbefore described property to enforce the forfeiture thereof, and requiring notice to be given tn all persons to appear and show cause, on the return day of said process why said forfeiture should not be decreed ; and that after due proceedings are had, all of said property be adjudged, decreed, and condemned as forfeited to the use of the United States; and for such other relief as may be proper in the premises. Dated the 5iOth September, 1886. (Signed) M. D. BALL, United States' District Attorney for the District of Alaska. On the same day was filed the following demurrer : — In the United States' Distkict Court for the District of Alaska. United States v. J. D. Warren and Schooner " Thornton." — Demurrer. The demurrer of J. D. Warren, claimant of the property proceeded against in the «bove(ause to the information filed herein. 1. 'Jhe f-aid claimant by protestation, not confessing all or any of the matters ir. said amended information contained to be true, demurs thereto and says that the said matters in manner and form, os the same are in the information stated and set forth, art Toi t^ L •ict of Alaska, Llnitetl States J tons burden, rniture, being id property is jars, sails, and irils of canvas, , ropes, twine, ical skins, one id ammunition liorized by the United States nd engaged in era thereof, in t into the port ivson, a Deputy aid arms and ■ict and turned ' is now within lieges : — other persons hen and there nl-hunters, did, there masier ol of Alaska, and of the Revised nd other goods said schooner id are true and s and of this s in such cases er twenty tons id are forfeited onition of this d hereinl)efore to be given to y said forfeiture .id property lie states; and for ict of Alaska. Alaska. urrer. against in the of the matters M _ s that tlie said nd set forth, art 78 not sufficient in law for the United States to have and maintain their said action for the forfeiture of the property aforesaid. 2. Tlie said claimant by protestation denies that this Court has jurisdiction to determine or try the question hereby put in issue. a. And that the said claimant is not bound in law to answer the same. Wherefore claimant prays that said information may be dismissed with costs. (Signed) W. CLARK and D. A. DINGLEY, Proctors for Claimant, Which demurrer was overruled by the Court, and on the same day was filed the following answer : — In tub United States' Distuict Court for the District of Alaska. United States v. J, D. Warren and Schooner " Thornton." — Answer of Claimant. The answer of J. D. Warren, owner and claimant of the said schooner " Thornton," her tackle, apparel, cargo, and furniture, as the same are set forth in the information filed herein in behalf of the United States. And now comes J. D. Warren, claimant as aforesaid and for answer to the said infor- mation against the said schooner "Thornton," her tackle, apparel, furniture and cargo, as set forth in said information says that the said schooner " Thornton," her tackle, apparel, furniture, and cargo as set forth in tlie information mentioned, did not nor did any part thereof become forfeited in manner and form as in said information in that behalf alleged, or at all. Wherefore, the said claimant prays that said information be dismissed with costs of this claimant attached. (Signed) W. CLARK and D. A. DINGLEY, Proctors for Claimant. On the 22nd September, 1886, were filed the following exceptions to answer : — United States' District Court, District of Alaska, United States op America. United States v. the Schooner " Thornton." No. 50. The said libellant hereby excepts to the sufficiency of the defendant's answer herein, on the following grounds : — 1. Said answer is not properly or at all verified as required by Rule 27 of the United States' Admiralty Rules ; 2. Said answer is not full, explicit or distinct to each or any allegation of the libel herein, as required by said Rule ; 3. Said answer does not deny or admit any of the allegations of fact in said libel, but merely denies a conclusion of law. (Signed) M. D. BALL and W. H. PAYSON, Proctors for Libellant. September'!], 1886. Which exceptions were sustained by the Court, and on the same day was filed the following amended answer : — In the United States' District Court fob the District of Alaska. Unittd ii(jl:.'' V. J, D. Warren and Schooner "Thornton." — Amended Answer. To the Ho/!Ourab'i j Lafayette Dawson, Judge of the United States' District Court for the District of Alaska. Hans Guttormsen, master of the schooner "Thornton," intervening for the interest of and in behalf of J. D. AVarren, owner and claimant of said schooner "Thornton," her tackle, apparel, furniture and cargo for amended answer to the libel of information herein, against said schooner, her tackle, apparel, furniture, and cargo, alleges as i follows : — 1. That he denies each and every material allegation in said libel of information ' contained ; [128] L ,.«^.. IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 1.0 1.1 LiM2A |Z5 |5o ^^~ B^B 1^ Ui2 12.2 :!f 124 I. ^ im 1.25 III 1.4 1.6 ^ 6" ► V] Photogr^hic Sdences Corporation 33 WEST MAIN STRICT WEBSTM, N.Y. M580 (716)873-4903 \^' ■17 iV \\ ^ O^ .<^ % ^A" O^ m ! i 1 ,1 ^V ill 2. Denies that the said schooner " Thornton," her tackle, appnrel, furniture, :arf^o, and the property appertaining thereto, as set tbrtli and described in said libel of inl'orma- tion or any part thereof became forfeited to the United States ; 3. Denies that said schooner, her captain, oflicers, and ciew, or any one of them were found engaged in killing fur-seal within the limits of Alaska Territory and within the waters thereof in violation of section 1 956 of the Revised Statutes of the United States a.s set forth in said libel of information or at all ; 4. Denies that they killed any number of fur seal or other fur-bearing animals within the waters of Alaska or the Territory of Alaska or in any part thereof. C. That all and singular the premises herein arc trae. >Vliereforc said master prays that this Honourable Court will be pleased to pronounce against the libel herein and that the same may he dismissed with costs to the claimants to be taxed. (Signed) W. CLARK and D. A. DINGLEY, Proctors for Claimant. United States' District of Alaska, ss. Hans Guttormsen, being first duly sworn, says he is master of the schooner "Thornton," that he has heard read the foregoing answer and knows the contents thereof and that the same is true of his own personal knowledge. (Signed) H. GUTTORMSEN. Subscribed and sworn to before me this 22nd day of September, a.d. 1886. (Signed) Andrew T. Lewis, Clerk of the United Statei District Court for the District of Alaska. ■ Vj On the 4th day of October, 1886, the motion cited p. 64 was returned with the following indorsement : — Sitka District of Alaska, ss. Be it remembered, that, in obedience to the annexed monition, I have attached the within-described property and now hold the same in my possession subject to the order of this Honourable Court ; And I have given due notice to all persons claiming said property to be and appear before this District Court on the 4th day of October, 1886, at 10 o'clock A.M., if the same shall he a day of jurisdiction, otherwise on the next day of jurisdiction thereafter, then and there to make their claims and allegations in that behalf: — And r have caused said notice to be published, and the same has been published in the "Alaskan," a newspaper published at Sitka in said District, on the 4th day of September, 1886, and in each issue of said new.spaper subsequent thereto, until 4th day of October, 1886. ;..... v (Signed) BARTON ATKINS, MflrsAa/, District of Alaska. Sitka, Alaska, October 4, 1886. IM On the same day was filed the following Decree : — In the United States' DrsTiiioT Court in and fou the District of Alaska, United Status op Amekica. ■ " United Stuten v. Ilie Schooner " Thornton." No. 50. The Marshal having returned on the monition i' -uod to him in the above entitled action that, in obedience thereto, ho has attached the said schooner *' Thornton," her tackle, apparel, boat;,, cargo, and furniture, and has given due notice to all persons claiming the same to appear before this Court on this 4th dpy of October, 1886, at 10 o'clock a.m., at the District of Alaska, United States of America, then and there tc interpose their claims and make their allegations in that behalf; and Hans Guttormsen, the captain of said vessel, having heretofore filed a claim to all of said property on behalf of J. D. Warren, of Victoria, British Columbia, the owner thereof, and no other person having appeared, and no claimo or allegations having been made or filed herein by any other person or persons, and the usual proclamation having been made, and said cause 75 iture, cargo, 1 of int'orma- mc of them ' and within ' the United ing animals ;o pronounce be claimants :.EY, Claimant. be schooner tents thereof >RM8EN. 86. •v.: '."J • cd with the ittachcd the ;o the order and appear A.M., if the I thereafter, published in 4th day of ntil 4th day rshal, of Alaska, * k having been heard upon the pleadings and proofs, M. D. Ball, Eaq., and TV. H. Payson, Esq., appearing as advocates for said libellant, :ind W. Clark as advocate for said claimant, and said cause having been submitted to the Court for decision, and due deliberation being Imd in the premises, it is now ordered, sentenced, and decreed as follows : — 1. That all persons whatsoever other than said claimant be, and they arc, hereby declared in contumacy and default 2. That the said schooner "Thornton," her tackle, apparel, boats, and furniture, and her cargo of 403 fur-seal skins, and all other property found upon and appurtenant to said schooner, be, and are hereby, condemned as forfeited to the use of the United States. 3. That ''.less an appeal be taken to this Decree within the time limited and prescribed by law and the Rules of this Court, the usual writ of venditioni exponas be issued to the Marshal commanding him to sell all of the said property and bring the proceeds into this Court to be distributed according to law. Costs to be taxed are awarded against said claimant. Dated October 4, 1886. (Signed) LAFAYETTE DAWSON, District jndge. Done in open Court this 4th day of October, 1886, at Sitka, District of Alaska, United States' of America. (Signed) , Clerk. ' AliASKA, On the same day was filed the following motion to set aside Decree : — In the Unitkd States' District Couht for tue District or Alaska. United States v. J. D. Warren and Schooner " Thornton." — Motion to set aside Decree. Now come W. Clark and D. A. Dingley, proctors intervening for and in behalf of the claimants herein, and moves the Court to set aside the Decree rendered herein for the reason that the evidence produced on behalf of the United States is wholly InsutTlcient upon which to base said Decree. (Signed) W. CLARK and D. A. DINGLEY, Proctors for Claimant. Which motion was over-ruled by the Court, and on the same day was filed the following notice of appeal : — In the United States' District Court foe the District of Alaska. United States v. J. D. Warren and Schooner " Thornton." — Notice of Appeal. And now come W. Clark and D. A. Dingley, proctors for and in behalf of the claimant herein, and notifies this honourable Court that they hereby appeal from the Decree rendered herein to the Circuit Court having appellate jurisdiction over this district, and that said appeal is taken on questions of law and fact, and prays the Court for an order on its clerk to prepare a complete transcript of the record herein, as tlie law requires. (Signed) W. CLARK and D. A. DINGLEY, Proctors for Claimant. ovc entitled rnton," her ns claiming >'clock a.m., rpose their the captain behalf of her person ein by any said cause On the 9th day of February, 1887, was entered tlje foUo-ving order : — In the Matter of the United States v. Schooner " Onward," Case No. 49 ; Schooner "Thornton," Case No. ftO; Schooner "Carolina," Case No. .M ; Schooner "San Dieijo," Case No. 52 ; Arms and Ammunition Schooner " Sierra," No. .'i? ; Arms and Ammunition Schooner " San Diego," No. 58. In the above causes, upon motion of the Attorney for the United States and argu- ment of counsel for the United States, and for the interveners in ^aid causes*, and consideration by the Court, it is this day ordered that writs of venditioni exponas do issue frqm the clerk of said Court to the Marshal of said District, for the sale of the attached [128] L 2 IT f ! I i' 76 vessels, with taeir tackle, cargoes, and furniture, of whatever description, and of the arms and ammunit* n attached :r. said causes. And as the said attached vessels, that the sale of the same (except the schooner " San Diego," which shall be sold at Sitkn) slinll be made at Port Townscnd, in the District of Washington Territory, and as to tlic seal-skins, part of the cargoes of said vessels attached, that sale of the same shall be made at San Frnnciscu, in the District of California, and that sale of said schooner " 8an Dic;;o," and all the other attached Eroperty be made at Sitka, in tlic District of Alaska. Thirty day.s' notice of such sale to e given at each of tlie places wlicrc the samu are to be mnde, by posting such notice, or by publication in some newspaper published at siioli places respectively. And that said Marshal do have the moneys arising from such sales, together with the writ commanding the same, at a District Court of the United States for this, the said District of Alaska, to be held on the first Monday in September, 1887, and that he then pay the same to the clerk of said Court. Clerk's Office, United States' District Court, District of Alaska, Sitka, March 10, 1887. I, Andrew T. Lewis, clerk of the said Court, do certify that the foregoing transcript of the record in the case of the United States v. the schooner " Thornton," her tackle, apparel, &c., on libel of information, pending in said Court, has been compared by me with the original, and that it is a correct transcript therefrom and of the whole of such original, except the full text of the exhibits referred to in the testimony therein, the purport of which only is stated, and that the purport of said exhibits is correctly stated, as the same appears of record at my office and in my custody. Witness my hand and the seal of said Court, this 10th day of March, 1887. (Seal.) ANDREW T. LEWIS, Clerk. No. 44. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. West. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, August 2, 1887. I HAVE received your despatch of the 12th ultimo. Were judicial documents communicated without observation by the United States' Government ? No. 15. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Saliaburii. — (Received bij telegraph, August 4.) My Lord, Washington, August 4, 1887. I HAVK the honour to inform your T.ordsliip that the judicial documents alluded to in your Lordship's telegram of tlie 2n(l instant were, at my request, forwarded to me by the Secietary of State, (or tiic inl'orniation of Her Majesty's Government, and were unaccompanied by iiny observations. I have reason to think that no step will be taken in the matter of the seizure of sealers in Bchrinii's Sea until the case against the captain of the " Corwin," which will be tried at Boston, has been heard. 1 have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. No. 40. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L, West. Sir, Foreign Office, August 10, 1887. I HAVE to inform you that a telegram has been received from the Commander-in- chief of Her Majesty's naval forces in the Pacific, dated Victoria, British Columbia, on tlic 7th instant, tVom which it appears that an American Revenue vessel had seized three more British Columbian scaling schooners when a long distance from lant|, and that 77 nd of the arms uing transcript they had been taken to Sitka. He further stated that several other vessels in sight from Sitka were being towed in. It will be within your recollection that in the correspondence which has recently token place in regard to the previous seizures of three British vessels by the United States' Revenue cruizcr " Corwin," Mr. Bayard stated in a note dated the 3rd February (a copy of which accompanied your despatch of the following day), that "without conclusion at this time of day of any questions which may be found to be involved in these cases of seizure, orders have been issued by the President's direction for the discontinuance of all pending proceedings, the discharge of the vessels referred to, and the release of all persons under arrest in connection therewith." I request that you will at once communicate to the United States' Oovemment the nature of the information which has reached them in regard to these further seizures of British vessels by the United States' authorities. You will at the same time say that Her Majesty's Government had assumed, in view of the assurances conveyed to you in Mr. Bayard's note of the 3rd February last, that pending a conclusion of the discussion between the two Governments on the general question involved, no further similar seizures of British vessels would be made by order of the United States' Government. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. ,LE WEST. No. 47. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. West. Sir, Foreign Office, August 10, 1887. I HAVE to acknowledge the receipt of your despatch of the 12th ultimo, inclosing printed copies of the records in the United States' District Court for the District of Alaska in thj cases of the British Columbian sealing schooners " Onward," " Carolina," and " Thornton." I should be glad if you would inform me whether the owners or masters of any of these vessels have entered an appeal against the Judgments delivered by the Court, and whether, if they have not already done so, such a course is still open to them. It is also desirable that Her Majesty's Government should be furnished with a full Report of the proceedings at the trials of the masters, which resulted in their conviction, and sentence to imprisonment and fine. I have further to request that you will endeavour to ascertain and to report to me when it is probable that the appeals referred to in your despatches of the 2nd April, 1887, ond of the 6th May, 1887, respectively, of the owners of the American ships which were seized on similar grounds, will come on for hearing, and whether any arrange- ment has been, or can now, in your opinion, advantageously be made between the owners of the British and American vessels on the one side and the Government of the United States on t!.c other, that one of these cases should he regarded as a test case, by which, in so far as the American legal Tribunals arc concerned, the remaining cases might be held to he concluded. It must, however, he clearly understood that any such arrangement, if made, would only affect the legal remedies which were open to the masters and owners of these vessels in the American Courts, and would in no degree limit the right of Her Majesty's Govern- ment, after all such legal remedies were considered to be exhausted, to intervene through diplomatic channels and on international grounds on behalf of such masters or owners. It is presumed that the records of the proceedings in the cases of the seizures of the British schooners which accompanied your despatch were communicated officiaily to Hei Majesty's Legation, and, if so, i request that you will furnish me with a copy of the note by which they were accompanied. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 48. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received August 26.) My Lord, « irf^ Washington, August 15, imi. IN obedience to the instruction contained in your Lordship's despatch of the 10th instant, I informed the Secretary of State t^at three British Columbian schooners r 'I III had been seized in ikhring's Sea by the United States' cruisers a long distance from Siti<a, and that several other vessels were in sight being towed in. I also intimated to Mr. Bayard that, in view of the assurances ftiven in his note of the 3rd February last, Her Majesty's Government hud assumed that, pcndint; the conclusion of discussions between the two Governments on general questions involved, no further seizures would be made by order of the United States' Government. Copy of my note is iierewith inclosed. 1 have likewise tiic honour to inclose to your Lordship copy of a note whicii I have received in reply to the above connnuuicatinn, in whicii .\lr. i>ayurd states that he can discover no ground whatever, from the expressions cuniaincd in liis note referred to, for the assumption by Her Majesty's Government that it contained any such assurances, but that ho will ascertain without delay whether the circumstances attendant U|h}|. the cases of the seizures in i|uestion are the same as those which induced the Executive to direct the release of the vessels mentitnied in his note of the 3rd February. I have, &c. ,1,, (Signed) L S. SACKVILLE WEST. 7 '•;.'-] - Inclosure I in No. Ih. Sir L. IVest to Mr. liayunl. Sir, Washington, August 11, 1887. I HAVE t'sie honour to inform you that Her Majesty's Government have received a telegram from the Commundcr-in-ehicf of Her Majesty's naval forces in the Pacific, dated Victoria, British Columbia, 7th August, reporting the seizure by United States' cruizers of three British Columbian sealing schooners in Jkhring's Sea, a long distance from Sitka, and that several other vessels were in sight being towed in. In convoying this information to you, 1 am requested at the same time by the Marquis of Salisbury to state that, in view ot the assiurances given in your note of the 3rd February last, Her Majesty's Government had assumed that pending the conclusion of discussions between the two Governments on general questions involved, no further seizures would be made by order of the United States' Government. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure 2 in No. 48. Mr. Bayard to Sir L. West. • Sir, Department of State, Washington, August 13, 1887. I HAVE the honour to acknowlcidge the receipt of yournote of the 11th instant received yesterday afternoon, informing me of a telegraphic communication from the C<)inman(ler-in-chief of Her Majesty's naval forces in the Pacific, dated at Victoria, British Columbia, August 7th, reporting the seizure of three British Columbian sealing schooners " in Bchring's Sea, a long distance from Sitka," and that " several other vessels were in sight being towed in." T!ie reference to my note to you of the 3rd February last, which you make under the instruction of the Marquis of Salisbury, has caused me to examine the expressions contained therein, and I can discover no ground whatever for the asiumption by Her Majesty's Government, that it contained assurances " that, pending the conclusion of discussions between the two Governments on general questions involved, no further seizures would be made by order of the United States' Government." Until your note of the 1 1 ih instant was received I had no information of the seizure of the sealing vessels therein referred to, and have no knowledge whatever of the circumstances under which such seizures have been made. I shall at once endeavour to supply myself with the information necessary to enable me to reply to you more fully. The cases of seizure referred to in my note of the 3rd February, 1887, had occurred during the previous August, and upon the basis of the information then obtained I wrote you as follows : — " In this connection 1 take occasion to inform you that, without conclusion at this time of any questions which may be found to be involved in these cases of seizure, orders have been issued by the President's direction for the discontinuance of all pending I LLE WEST. 79 proceedings, the discharge of the vessels referi-ed to, and tho release of all persons under arrest in connection therewith.'" Having no reason to anticipate any other seizures, nothing was said in relation to the possibility of such an occurrence, nor do I find in our corrt'spondence on the subject nnv grounds for such an understanding'; as you inform mc had been assumed to exist by Her Brilannic Majesty's Government. A short timo since, when you called upon me and personally obtained copies of the record of the judicial proceedings in the three eases «.f sei/.urc in August last in Hcliring's Sea, nothing was said in relation to other cnses. Whctht-r the oircumslances attendant upon the cases which you now report to uio arc the same as those which induced the Executive to direct the releases referred to remains hereafter to be ascertained, and this with as little delay as the circumstances, will permit. I have, &c. ' ,;••.-.. (Signed) T. F. BAYARD. No. 4.0. Admiralty to Foreifju Office. —{Received August '21 ) ^ ' ,"^, ..;•. (Extract.) AdmiruUij, Auyusl 21, 1887. I AM commanded by my Lords Commissioners of the Adn\iralty to send you here- with, for the perusal of the Marquis of Salisbury, extract from a letter from the Commander-in-chief on tho I'acitio Station, dated the 5th August, reporting the seizure of a sealing-schooner, named the "Anna Beck," by an American ilevenue vessel in Bchring's Sea. LLE WEST. Inclosure iu No. 49. Rear- Admiral Culme- Seymour to Admiralty. • . "•: ,ii'' [(Extract.) "TViumph," at Esquimalt, August 5, 1887. SINCE my return I lioar that the "Anna Beck," a sealing schooner, has been seized by an American Revenue vessel in Behring's Sesi — it is reported GO miles north-east from St. George's Island ; but no reliable information as to the spot has yet reached me. As soon as it does I will forward particulars. Bsary to enable No. 50. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received September 1.) (Extract.) ' Washington, August 20, 1887. IT would appear from Reports of Captain Shepard, of the United States' Revenue cutter " Rush," that the "Say ward " was cajjtured 50 miles and the " Dolphin * 40 miles from Cape Cheerful, while the " Grace'' was seized 95 miles from Ounalaska. Cape Cheerful does not appear on any Map or Chart, but is supposed to be the northernmost point of the Island of Ounalaska. The Islands of St. Gtorge and St. Paul (Pribylov Islands) are distant 180 miles from Ounalaska, so that at the time of the seizure of the " Grace" that vessel would have been 85 miles distant from them. To reach the breeding-grounds on the Islands of St. George and St. Paul, the seals pass regularly through the channel which separates the Island of Ounalaska from the Island of Akutan, and that which separates Akutan from the Island of Unimak, called respectively the Akutan and Unimak passes, and it is hero that the sealers lay in wait for them on their passage. It is maintained that the capture o( seals in Uiis n. aimer is in violation of section 195fi of the Revised Statutes of the United States, and that shijis so capturing them are within the limits of Alaska territory or in the waters thereof. But, apart from the question of territorial limit and right to seize vessels in the open sea, it is argued by impartial persons that unless sonie arrangement is made for the protec- tion of these valuable animals on their passage to the breeding-grounds, the genus, us in the a ' of beaver, will gradually become extinct. m t! 1 . 80 It is a known fact that few, if any, seals pass outside the Island of Ounalaska to their breeding-grounds, which exist only ou the Pribyluv Islands, and that their passage it 08 i-c^uliir us their breeding season. * . No. 61. Sir L, West to the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Received September 1.) My Lord, Washington, August 22, 1887. SINCE writing my preceding despatch I have received privately from Mr. Bayard copies of the Reports of Captain Shepard, alluded to therein, respecting the seizure of the British vessels "Anna Beck," "W. P. Say ward,"' "Dolphin," and "Grace," copies of whici I have the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith. The State Department is not in possession of any further information. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. P.S. — I have communicated copies of Captain Shepard's Ileports to the Governor- General of Canada. L. S. S. W. Inclosurc 1 in No. 61. Mr. Fairchild to Mr. Bayard. Sir, Treasury Department, August 19, 1887. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 13tli instant, in which you refer to information received through the British Minister as to the recent seizures by United States' cruizers of three British Columbian sealing-scliooners in Behring's Sea, and request such information as this Department possesses or can obtain from its Agents relative to said seizures ; and, in reply thereto, I inclose herewith copies of the Reports of the Captain of the Revenue cutter " Rush," dated the 4th, 11th, and 18th ultimo, reporting the seizures of the British steam-schooner " Anna Beck " on the 2nd, the British steam-schooner " W. P. Sayward" on the Dth, the British steam-schooner "Dolphin" on the 12th, and the British steani-schooner "Grace" on the 17th ultimo. Rcsjiectfully yours, (Signed) C. S. FAIRCHILD, Secretary. Sir, Inclosure 2 in No. 51. > > Captain Shepard, U.S.R.M,, to Mr. Fairchild. United Slates' Revenue Marin" Steamer " Rush," Ounalaska, A. T., Juh 4. 1887. I HAVE the honour to report to the Department the seizure on the 30th June of the schooner "Challenge " of Seattle, Washington Territory, H. B. Jones, master, and Albert Douglas, of Seattle, Washington Territory, President of the Douglas Fur Company, managing owner, for violation of section 1961, Revised Statutes, — the having skins of female fur-seal and skins of unborn seal on board, which latter the captain and mate admitted were taken from the female seal killed by themselves or the crew of the vessel. The " Challenge " when found was anchored at Akoutau Island, Alaska : I took her in tow of the " Rush," and proceeded to Ounalaska and delivered her skins, 151 in number, to the United States' Deputy Marshal at this place, and have taken her arms and ammunition on board the "Rush" for safe keeping. The crew, consisting of fifteen men all told, were shipped at Port Townsend, Washington Territory, by H. Bash, United States' Shipping Commissioner, and were found present, excepting Wni. Couratz, of Germany, seaman, whom Captain Jones reports was taken sick and sent ashoi-e at Goose Island, British Columbia, and Hines, an Indian of British Columbia, was shipped in his stead at that place. On the 2nd July, in latitude 54° 68' north and longitudn 167° 26' west. Cape Cheerful, Ounalaska Island, bearing southoeast ^ east, 66 miles, I boarded and examined Ouimlaska to loir passage it •) It 22, 1887. m Mr. Bayard seizure of the opics of whici LK WEST, the Govcrnor- .. S. S. W. 81 the British steam-schooner " Anna Heck." of Victoria, British Columbia, T-ioui* Olsen, master, Joe flosquit, of ictoria, British Columl)ia, nianii^ini; owner, on a seaiina; voyage, and havine about 334 seal-skins on l)oar(l, ninctpon of wliich the captain admitted were taken in Behring's Sea. His boats had recently been taken out of tiic water, and considerable fresh seal blood and gurry were found on deck, indiciitiiii,' tliiit seal bad liivn ski.iued and dressed on hoard that day. I seized the vessel lor violation of section 19.')G, Revised Statutes, took in tow, and proeecdeii to Ounalaska. This vessel was seen on the ;i()th .lune, in nearly the same position ns when we toinid her, by Captain Aau:e, of tlic steamer "Dora," with several boats out liiisitinf; seal. I found on board a crew ot nineteen men all told (seven wiiitc and twelve Indians), and the captain reported that on tie ;U)tli .lune two bouts contninin;.; two Imiians each were lost in the fog and could not be round, in addition to the above number. I have delivered the; "Anna lleek," with outfit and iV-W seiii-skins, to the United States' Deputy Marshal at Ounalaska. No arms or ammunition were found on board. As the officers of these vessels have to be taken luforc the United States' District Court at Sitka for trial, to which place theie is no estai)lislied mode of eonvcyance Irom here, 1 have placed the olhceis and cicws of both vessels on board tiic schooner "Challenge" and dispatclied lU-DJamin l<oren/.en,oneof the crew of this vessel, duly qualified as a Deputy United States' Marshal, in charge, to Sitka, with instructions on bis arrival at that place to deliver the vessel, captains, anil mates to tlu! United States' Marshal, anJ to set the crews at liberty, Lore.n/en to remain at Silka until the arrival of the " Rush " at the end of the season. 1 am, &c. (Siqned) L. (J. SllEPARD. I.V/ 19, 1887. 3 13th instant, s to the recent jrs in Behring's ihtain from its I copies of the 1 1th, and 18th )n the 2nd, the iteam-schooncr on the 17th ), Secretary. irier " Rush," 87. th June of the r, and Albert ur Company, iving skins of :ain and mate crew of the ;e Inelosurc 3 in No. 51. Captain Shepard, U.S.R.M., to Mr. Fairchild. United States' Revenue Marine Steamer " Ru><h," Sir, Ounalaska, Alaska, . full/ 11,1887. I HAVE the honour to inform the Department that on thcflth .July in the Rehrin^'s Sea, latitude 54° 43' north, longitude IG?" 51' west, Cape Cheerful, Ounalaska Island, bearing? south-east, true .01) miles distant, i boarded and examined the British schooner " VV. 1*. Sayward," .09*79 tons register, of Victoria, British Columbia, Geo. K. Ferry, master, and W. D. Warren, of Victoria, British Columbia, managing owner, and found her to be on a sealing voyage — had been four days in the Behring's Sea. The captain reported 485 seal-skins on board, si.\ty-four of which were tuken in the Behring's Sea. Found the vessel under short sail, and one canoe and two Indians out hunting seal. Her crew consisted of six white men all told, and seventeen Indians from Britisli Columbia, and two Indians belonging to the crew of the British schooner " Amia Beck," who had lost that vessel in a fog. 1 took charge of the vessel's papers and seized ler for violation of section l!)5ti, Revised Statutes; took her in tow and proeecdcd to Ounalaska, arriving at midnight. I have delivered the 48.'> seal-skins ftmnd on board to the United States' Deputy Marshal at this place, and will send the vessel and her crew to Sitka, Alaska, in charge (jf one of the crew of this vessel duly qualified as a United St;>tes' Deputy iMaishal, with instructions to deliver the vessel with her outfit, tlie captain and mate, to the United States' Marshal at Sitka on arrival at that jjort, and to set the crew at liberty. I am, &c. (Signed) L. G. SHEPARD. ta : I took her skins, 161 in her arms and irt Townsend, nd were found s reports was an Indian of !6' west, Cape and examined Inelosure 4 in No. 51. Captain Shepard, U.S.R.M., to Mr. Fairchild. ' ' United Stales^ Revenue Marine Steamer " Rush," Sir, Outialaska, Alaska, July 18, 1887. I HAVE the honour to inform the Department that on the 12th July in the Beliring's Sea, latitude 54° 38' north, longitude 167° 30' west. Cape Cheerful, Ounalaska Island, bearing south-east ^ south, 40 miles distant, 1 boarded and examined the British steam- schooner "Dolphin," 60 ^^; tons register, of Victoria, British Columbia, J. D. Warren, [128J U I" I 82 master and managing owner, and found her to be on a scaling voyage. The vessel had been three days in the Behring's Sea, and had 018 seal-skins on board. Ten canoes and one boat were out hunting seal at the time. Prom the canoes twelve or more dead seal were taken on board the schooner while wc were near her, and three skins from seal recently killed were found in the boat. Seized the vessel for violation of section 1956, Revised Statutes, and tninsferied her arms and riinmunition on hoard the " Rush," viz., 4 brei'eii-loading rides, 20 brecch-loadini; siiot guns, 10 muz/le-loading shot guns, 1 bomb gun, -1 revolvers, ;^'1()4 rounds aniniunition fi)r hnech-loadinj; rifles, 250 rounds ammunition for siiot guns, 4 kegs jiowder, 50 lbs. shot and other small ammunition. Seized tiie 4 hreeeh-loading rifles and annnunition for same for violation of section 1955, Revised Statutes, and section 4, I'.xecutive Order No. M, dated the 4th May, |H87. 1 placed Lieutenant Dunwoody in eliarfic, with iiistrnetions to take her into Ounalaska, where she arrived the following day. 'Ihn crew consisted of seven wliitc men and twenty- six Indians from British Columbia. On the 17th July, in the Ikhring's Sea, latitude 5.')" :V north, longitude 168° 40' west, Cape Cliccrful, Ounalaska Island, bearing south-east I east, !)(» miles distant, . boarded and examined the Hritish steam-schooner " Gniee," 7() ,V(i tons register, of Victoria, British Cokimbia, William Petit, master, and J. 1). Warren, of N'ictoria, British Columbia, managing owner, and found her to be on a sealing voyage ; had been ten days in the Behring's Sea, and had 7t>9 seal-skins on board. When boarded she had twelve canoes and one boat out hunting seal. Saw one seal shot and taken into the boat while wc were near her. Counted twelve seals taken on board the schooner from one canoe, and all the canoes contained more or less seals recently killed. Tiic caj)tain reported taking ninety seals during the day and l.'5() the day previous. Seized the vessel for violation of section 1956, Revised Statutes, and two breech-loading rifles and ammunition for same; for violation of section 1955, Revised Statutes, and section 4, Executive Order No. .OS, dated the 4th May, 1887. Her crew consisted of (i white men, 24 Indians, and 1 Chinaman. Placed Lieutenant Benhauj in charge, and after waiting seven hours for her canoes '.o return — some of which had been a long distance from the vessel — took her in totV and proceeded to Ounalaska, arriving at 9"'50 A. jr. I have delivered the seal-skins from these vessels to the United States' Deputy Marshal at tliis place, and will send the vessels in charge of men from this vessel duly qualified as United States' Deputy Marshals to Sitka, to be delivered to the United States' Marshal for the district of Alaska. By request of Captain .). D. Warren, of the " Dolphin," managing owner of the schooner " Anna Beck " (seized the 2nd July, as previously reported), I will send her to Sitka in like manner. Also on the Kith July, in the Behring's Sea, in latitude 55° 46' north, longitude 170" ."^8' west, Delnoi Point, St. George's Island, bearing north 30° cast, 68 miles distant. I boarded and examined the schooner " Lily L.," 63 tons register, of San Francisco, California, J. W. Todd, master, and C. D. Ladd, of San Francisco, managing owner, and found her to be on a sealing voyage. Had three boats out at the time, one of which on returning to the vessel contained two seal recently killed. Captain Todd and Mr. Ladd, representing the owner, admitted they came into these waters for the purpose, and had taken seal in the Behring's Sea, and claimed a right to do so anywiiere outside the 9-mile limit from the shore. I seized the vessel for violation of section 1956, Revised Statutes. There being only two commissioned oflScers on board this vessel, I placed Boatswain Winslow on board the schooner to represent the United States, and instructed her captain to take her into Ounalaska, which he agreed to do, there being too much sea running at the time to under- take to tow her to thUt place. On her arrival I will make further report to the Department. I am, &e. (Signed) L. G. SHEPARD. •I'i ■I;. il ; p i No. 52. Admiralty to Foreign Office. — {Received September 7.) Sir, Admiralty, September 5, 1887. I AM commanded by my Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty to transmit to you herewith, for the pci-usal of the Marquis of Salisbury, the accompanying copy of a letter of the 9th August from Rcar-Admiral Sir M. Gulme-Seymour, with its inclosures, The vessel hud 'en canoes and more dead seul tins from seal * section 1956, '• Rush," viz., guns, 1 bomb , 250 rounds I nninmnition. section 1055, May. 1H87. 1 ito Oiiiialiiska, Ml and twenty- 168" 40' west, ant, '. boarded r, of Victoria, lisli Columbia, n days in the twelve canoes wliilo we were oc, and all the talving ninety II- violation of tion for same; ;)rdcr No. .W.. ccd Lieutenant turn — some of 1 proceeded to I these vessels Is in cliarge of to Sitka, to be owner of the ill send her to orth, longitude miles distant, San Francisco, ng owner, and ic of which on and Mr. Ladd, rpose, and had side the 9-mile lerc being only r on board the take her into time to under- SHEPARD. \her 5, 1887. to transmit to mying copy of its inclosures, ^. respecting the seizure of the British Columbian sealing-schooncrs " Anna Ilcck " and " W. P. Sayward," by an American Rovcnue steamer in the Hehring's Sea. I am to request that these documents may be tbrwarded to tiie Colonial Office, with a request that they may eventually be returned to thiH Dep-.rtment. 1 am, &c. (Signed) R. D. AW DRY. Inclosure I in No. 52. Rear- Admiral tfciimoiir It Admiralti/. Sir, " Triumph," at ExquimnU, Auijunt 0, 1887. IN confirmation of my telegram of the fith instant. I have the honour to report the British Columbian sealing-schooncrs "Anna Meek," " Dolphin," and •' W. P. Sayward" were seized in the Behring's Sea, between the 2nd and 12th Jidy bust, by the American Revenue steamer " Rush," and were towed to Ounalaska. Mr. Andrew Idling, mate and part owner of the " W. P, Sayward," came down here and returns to-day to Sitka. Jle baa made tlie following statement to me : — " The • \V. P. Sayward,' of Victoria, entered Behring's Sea on the 2nd July, having on board 479 skins, procured off the west coast of Vancouver Island, &c. On the 9th she was seized by the ' Rush ' about .'iO miles to the northward and westward of Ounalaska, and was towed to Ounalaska, wbicli took twelve hours. The skins on board were put into a lighter and taken to the Alaska Commercial Company's store. A (juarter- master was put on board and the schooner sent to Sitka, the captain and myself l)cing brought before Judge Dawson and bound over to appear on tlie 22nd August to answer^a charge of killing seals in American waters.' " No seals whatever had been taken since wc entered Beining's Sea." I am informed that as the " Olympian,'' an American excursion steamer, was leaving Sitkn, she saw a steamer coming in witli several .schooners in tow. I inclose a copy of the indictment against the " W. P. Sayward," a copy of thc'declura- tion made by Mr. Andrew Laing before a Notary Public at Victoria, and alsd a cutting from the Victoria " Daily Colonist. I have, &a (Signed) M. CULME-SEYMOUR. Inclosure 2 in No. 52. In the District Court of the United States for the District of Alaska. United Stales v. Geo. R. Ferry and A. Laing. — Information. District of Alaska, ss. (JliOllGE R. FERRY and A. Luing are accused by M. D. Ball, United States' District Attorney for Alaska, by tiiis information, of the crime of killing fur seals within the \y!jters of Alaska Territory, committed as follows : — The said (Jcorge R. FeVry and A. LainL', on tiiu 8th day of July A.n. 1887, in the District of Alaska and within the jurisdiction of this Court, to wit, in jkhring's Sea, within the waters of Alaska Territory, did kill ten fur seals, contrary to the Statutes of the United States in such case made and provided, and against the peace and dignity of the United States of America. Dated at Sitka the 23rd day of .luly, 1887. 1, jM. D. Ball, United States' District Attorney for Alaska, being duly sworn, say the widiin inlormatio'.i is true, as I verily believe. (Signed) M. C. D. BALL. Subscribed and sworn to before me, this 23rd day of July a.d. 1887. (Signed) II. E. IIaydox, Ckrk (By A. A. Meyer, Deputy Clerk). 1 certify that the within is u true copy of the information filed in the cause. (Signed) H. E. I Iavdon,' C/erA (By A. A. Meyer, Deputv Clerk). L'28] ■ ;^j 2 II n i I n i:i 1 ; > i ' ! 1 I I ii J 'V. ^ \ , 11 1 St Personally a|)|)cared before me, Montague W. Tyrwhitt Drake, Notary Public, duly authorized, ndniiltcd, and Hworn, regjilin^ and practiitinK in Victoria, British Columbia, Andrew l^itinn, mate oC the Hritinh Hchoorier " NV. I*. Sayward," who states the above- written information was served upon him by Mr. M. D. Ball on tife 2.'lrd Jt'ly, IH87. (Signed) M. VV. Tviiwinrr Diukk, S'otinii PMic. IneloHure 3 in No. .')2. Drcliirittioii. I, ANDRI'^W LAING, of Victoriii, mute of the British schooner " W. P. Sayward," do solcmidy and sincerely declare tliat I lelt Vietoiia, Mritisit Columhia, in the schooner " W. P. Sayward " on the Kith day of Miiy, 1KS7, hound on a sealnif? vovftKiN with a crew of seven men and sixteen Indian hunters with ei<jlit canoes. W'c conmieuced sealing off Capo SciUt, on (he nortli of Vancouver Island, and killed 47!) fur-seals in the Pacific Ocean, and entereil the Hehrini^'s Sea on the .'nd July, 18^7, passim; between Umnaek Island and the Island of the hour Mountains. 1 he weather was very thick and fuggy, and we did no sealini; in Mehring's Sea in cous(>(|ucnce. On tiic 9th July we were captured by the United Slates' steamci " Richard Hush," being then from HO to 40 miles oH' the nearest land. We were taken in tow to OunalasUa, where we arrived on the lOth July, and they laid us alongside the steamer "St. Paul," l)^lon^iug to tiie Alaska Commercial Company. They removed the seal-skins and took them asiiore to the wharf and put them in the Company's warehouse, and they resalled the skins with suit taken from our vessel. They put an oliicer from the " Uush " on hoard and towed ns out to sea and told us to go to Sitka. Wc arrived then? t.i; tlie '2'2\u\ ,Iuly and on the ne.\t day an investigation was held before Judge Dawson, who bou"d ;is over to appear on tin- '2iml August for trial. The vessel was left in charge of the United States' odicers, and we were only allowed to remove our clothing. The Indians were left to tind their way homo as they could; they were about "00 miles from their villages. I further say that when we were taken I spoke to the Captain of the " Rush " and told him we had not taken a seal in Behring's Sea ; he replied : " 1 nni sorry for you ; I have to obey orders, and take every- thing I come across in Behring's Sea." And I make this solemn declaration by virtue of the Act passed in the thirty-seventh year of Iter Majesty's reign, intituled, "An Act for the Suppression of Volmitary and K.xtra-Judicial Oaths." (Signed) A. LAING. Taken and declared before mc at Victoria, this 8th day of August, 1887. (Signed) M. W. Tyuwiiitt Diiake, Nolan/ Public. Inclosure 4 in No. 52. Extract from the " Victoria Daily Colonist" of August 6, 1887. SB.vtER8 Seized. — Anotheh Piratical Act hy tiik American Revenue CuTTEiis. — The " Olympian," which arrived from Sitka yesterday, brought the startling news that another lot of Itritish and American schooners had been captured by the Revenue cutter " Rush," and taken to Sitka, and that as the steamer Wi.j leaving the Revenue cutter again hove in sight, having a nuinher of schooners in tow. Those in Sitka are the Victoria schooners " Dolphin," " Anna Beck," " (Jrace," " W. P. Sayward," and the American schooner " Challenger," of Seattle. With the schooners seized last year this makes seven British vessels now in charge of the Alaskan authorities, and they will, no doubt, be added to, as it seems the intention of the Americans to seize every schooner that they can secure anywhere within the waters of Behring's Sea. It was not thought probable that such measures would have been taken in the face of information received from Washington and Ottawa ; however, a lack of diplomacy or of energy seems to have prevailed, and no decisive answer was given to the oiiicial queries made to the United States' authorities in regard to the programme they purposed following during the present season. The following statements of several of the captured sealers is taken from the "Alaskan" of the 30th July :— Captain Olsen, of the steam-schooner "Anna Beck," stated : — " I left Victoria on the 7th February last, clearing at Ihe Custom-house f.i- t^j purpose RR ^ublic, duly I Columbia, the abn ve- ins?. lyward," do 11! schooner with n crew I seuling off tlio Pacific 211 Uiniiuck I foggy, and lard Hush," nd they laid Company. Iietii in tlie ssel. Tliey us to go to on was held trial. The allowed to hey could; n we were en a seal in take evcry- )y virtue of An Act for LAING. Revknue le startiing red by the caving the )se in Sitka ward,'" and St year this ey will, no looner that ■it t of n scaling and tiHlting trip to the west coast of Vane ouver Island, the North Pacific Ocean, and the HehrinR's Sea. "At the time the papers weru issued by Mr. A. H. Milne, Collector of C'ustoms, he made no obHcrvatioii about my vessel fishing; in lichrini^'H Sea ; neither did I sny any ihinL' to him. I supposed, from the fact that the papers were issued givini; me such permission, there was no reason why I should not fish in Mchrinf;'s Sea, and had I antici- pated that there would be any trouble 1 would not have started on a voyage for sucli u purpose. " It was the common talk amongst the people of Viftoria that we v.ere perfectly safe in fishing, as the American (Sovernment would not make any seizures this season. I don't undeisland why my vessel was seized, as personally I was not en;,'aL;ed in eatehinj; stals. I purchase the seals from the Indians tor the owners of the schooner, and I have no control whali'ver on the natives after tiiey leave the vessel in tlicir own cunocs. I am not responsililc if they catch seals after they have left the schooner's side ; they can come and go when they please." (ieorge R. Ferry, the Captain, A. Liing, the mate and part owner of the British schooner " \V. P. Sa\ ward,"' and Miclincl Kecfe. male of liie " Ai.na Heck," said : — "We have heard rcad the statement of Captain Olscn, and agree witli it in every particular." "Michael Kecfe: ' It is certainly a 8tran'j;e thing t'nr the Custom-house at Victoria to have issued papers to us permitting fishing in liehnii^ 'M-a. If it was not legal, why should the Collector have cleaicd the vessel"- The gu.i.ai idea of .sulcrs is that no Custom-house will issue papers to any vessel to go and 'lo an illeijal act.'" "Caj)tain 11. IJ. .lones, of the American schoo'-er • Challenger:' — 'I left Seattle on the l.''.th April last, clearing at Port Townsend at ; .le C'u!>n/m-honsc for a hunting and walrus trip to the North Pacific and Arctic Oceans. 1 seal' d U| the coast .'iO or 40 miles frr.i' I ire as far north as the Aleutian Islands. I have iie\er lislied for seaU in llehring's Sea. .My schooner was seized in .\kutan Harbour, whi.'iei 1 pror-eedcd for the purpose of cleaning the bottom of the vessel and taking in a su|>|ily of water. The harbour is on Akutan Island, situated nearer the Pacific Ocean t!um tiie Hehring's Sea. Then' are two passages between the North Pacific Ocean iuid the liclninij's Sea at that point, one being through Akum Pass and the other through L'nimak Pass. The Akuui Pass being full of reefs and the Unimak Pass being comparatively safe I chose the latter, inleiuliMg lo clean my vessel and take in a supply of water. When anchored llicre I h...' not (juito decided whether to come back in the Pacific Ocean or to keep on north, bound for tlu! Arctic Ocean, my destination. The charge against me is of etching seals in Alaskan waters, that is, within 3 leagues of shore. Any one who knows anything of sealing is aware that such a charge is ridiculous, as we never look for seals within 20 miles of shore. They are caught all the way from between 'JO and I. '50 miles of the land. The seals we j)acke(i np on our vessel were shot between Cape Mattery and Saunakh, situated 40 miles south and east of Uninuik Islaiul. All this territory lies within the North Pacific Ocean." What makes the present seizures more inexplicabh is the fact that the British schooners seized last year were ordered to be released l)y Attorney-(ieneral Garland, as is shown by the iollowing copies of the orders in the possession of Carne and Munsie, of this city : — (Copy of Telegram.) " yVashinyton, D. C, January 26, 1887. "To Judge Lafayette Dawson and Mr. D. Ball, District Attorney, Sitka, Alaska. " I am directed by the President to instruct you to discontinue all further proceedings in the matter of the seizure of the British vessels * Caroline,' ' Onward,' and 'Thornton,' and discharge all vessels now held under such seizure, and release all persons that may be under arrest in connection therewith. (Signed) "A. H. Garlaud, Attorney-General." (Copy of Order.) " To Barton Atkins, United States' Marshal for the District of Alaska. " You are hereby directed to release the vessels * Carolina,' ' Onward,' ' Thornton,* and 'San Diego,' which were seized in Behring's Sea for violation of section 1956, United ! I Mi 86 States' Statutes, together with their tackle, apparel, skins, guns, ammunition, small boats, and everything pertaining to said vessels. "This 19th day of February, 1887. (Signed) "Lafayette Dawson, " DUtrkl Jud(je, Dinlrict of Alaska." It would appear from the above that the United States had given up the fuolisii contention of possessing the control over the high seas. The following letter was received by Mr. Munsic from the Deputy Minister of Fisheries in reply to a letter : — "Sir, " Otiaiva, April 2, If^BI. " Havin<i reference to your inquiry on the subject of claims for indemnity on the part of the ownci-s of the Canadian scaling-vessels seized in Behring's Sea by the United States' Revenue cutter 'Corwin,' who have been arrested and released ; also that the conclusion of any questions involved is reserved for the present ; and to inform you that the Government has forwarded to the Home Government the details of your claim to be indemnilied for the loss consequent upon the seizure of your vessels. "lam, &c. (Signed) "John Timox. " Deputy Mlnislrr of /<V;.7(p?/V,v." Again, in answer to another letter, Mr. Munsic received the following reply : — ■ " Dear Sirs, " Ottami, July 20, 1887. "I have to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the l!)lh instant, addressed to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, in which you state, * Wo have not received a single word from the United States' Government about the "release of the vessels," ' referring, of course, to those seized last season. "On the 'ind April last I communicated to yon the decision of the President of the United States, in so far as releasing the vessels, &c., which letter yon acknowledged. " Have you made any application for the surrender of tlie vessels, or have you reason to suppose the United States' Government would communicate tiic action to you by other means tliixn the ordinary official channel ? " This Department lost no time in communicating the decision in question to you, with the expectation that you would at once take steps to regain possession of the vessels. " I am, &c. (Signed) ".John Tii/roy, " Deputy Minister of Fi.shrries." From the above official orders of the American authorities and the correspondence of the Dominion Government, sealers here were (|uite natural in i)eiieving that no further seizuivs would be nuule during the present sciison. However, the reverse is the case, and the Amciiean autliorities iiave evidently fully i)repaied in order to do as nnicli injury as possible to the scaling interests outside those controlled by the Alaska Commercial Company. Hiiii'^li and American scalers have fared alike. The latter probalily the worst. Owners of vessels [are are naturally indignant at the turn of alFairs, and think that more definite information siiould have beei\ given them before their vessels sailed as to the intentions of tlie Amerieans. Now that they are seized tlu y consider the fr.iijcrial autiiiiiitios should nuive at once in the matte;', and dcmanci instant re(h'css from the Unii(-d Stiiles for a breach of intcrnationallaw, and for the damages snstain<.d by Uritisli sulijeels w idle legally li.-liing on the high seas. Tiiey are beginning to wonder if, indeed, lingland is nnstrcss ot tlie seas when such ingh-handed i)iratieal acts as those perpetrated last yiur, and again .epeated tliis, are allowed to oceni- without some protection bcinu: givi'u lo r>ritish subjects or redress secured for damage done to jiroperty and interests at tiie liau'o 1)1' Americans. I'Voin the •■•Alaskan" is also gatliered the following in regard to the disposition of this and last year's seizures : — "?il;n'siial Atkins has been nolilled by Deputy-Marshal Anderson of Onnalaska, that the ConmuuKlcr of tlie steamer ' Uusli ' has delivered into his custody 1)04 fur seal-skins seize! from the did'crcnt prize vessels, the American schooner 'Challenger,' and tlic British sehooncis ' \V. I'. Sayvvard' and 'Anna Beck.' -All the above-mentioned seal- skins were packed and salted in a kineli in one of the Alaska Commercial Company's ware'.iouses, awaiting further instruction from tlie Marshal. 87 >R, small boats, WSON, t of Alaska." up the fuolisii ;r was received pril 2, 1887. y on the part of United States' c conclusion of le Government indemnified for roN, /■ Fi.ilierii's." •eply :— h/ 20, 1887. t, addressed fo ceived a single " ' referring, of resident of the wledged. ive you reason you by other nestion to yon, session of nhc I'ON, /■ Fislirrics:' rcspondenec of hat no further s the ease, and iuici) injury as II Coininercial ly the worst, inii tiiat more ailed as to tiie the fiiiperial rcss from tiu' nf.d by IJritish dcr if, indeed, )se perpetrated •otcction bcinu: md interests at ) disposition of (unalaska, that fur seal-skiiis ger,' and tiic lentioued seal- iial Company's " The ' Anna Beck ' hag been dismantled and a complete inventory taken of every- thing on board. "The 2,082 seal-skins, the result of last year's seizures, were shipped consigned to the Marshal on the Alaska Commercial Company's steamer ' Dora,' which left Ounalaska on the 8th July bound to San Francisco. "Nineteen Indians and three sailors, belonging to the ' W. P. Sayward,' and two of the ' Challenp;er's ' erew, left Sitka in the early part of the week on board several canoes and one boat, rn route for Victoria and Seattle. They took with them a large supply of provisions furnished by the commander of tlie ' Sayward.' " Marshal Atkins has received advices from the Dcputy-Marshol at Ounalaska under a recent date, stating that the three British schooners seized last August in the Bebring's Sea a'ld noR' lying at Ounalaska arc in good condition, every care having been taken to jn'otcct them fron\ injury. One of the vessels, which was in a leaky condition when first captured, was Ivjaehed in order to save contiiuious pumping. " In tiie District Court on Tuesday morning, H. li. Jones, captain, and Carl Erickson, mate of the schooner ' Ciiallenger,' I,ouis Olscn, caj)tain, and Michael Keefe, mate of the steam scliooner 'Anna Heck,' and George R. Ferry, captain of the schooner 'W. P. Say- ward,* appeared before Judge Dawson and made an application tiiat tliey be permitted to surrender tiieir bonds on tlie ground tiiat they were devoid of the funds necessary for their subsistence. Tiie Court granted tlie application, and ordered that the defendants be placed in tiie custody of the United States' Alarshal. " The arms and ammunition seized on the schooners ' City of San Diego ' and ' Siena "^ — comprising in all nine rifles and guns and about 1,400 cartridges — will be sold by auction in Sitka on Monday, the 8th proximo, by the Marshal. The seized arms and ammunition taken from the schooners 'San Diego,' ' Thornton,' and 'Onward,' — comprising some iifty rifles, brceeh-Ioading guns and rifles, and several thousand rounds of amnuinition, — will be ofl'ered for sale at Juneau as soon as the necessary uistructions are received from Washington." BayarcCs Opinion. The following telegram is another unofficial aimounccment, and seems to be rather out of harmony with the official acts of the conunauders of the Revenue cutters : — " Wftslnnijlon, July 20. " Secretary Bayard, when he was shown to-day a despatch from Ottawa, stating that 'the Dominion Government is protesting against the discourtesy shown by the United States' authorities in ignoring its demand for reparation for the seizure and detention of the 13ritish Columbia sealers seized in Bebring's Sea last year,' said : — ' In the first place, no demand was ever made to our Government by any body, either lor the release of the vessels in question or for damages for their detention ; and, in the second place, if any such demand had been made, it could not have come by any possibility from the Dominion Government, with which we have absolutely no diplomatic relations whatsoever. The vessels in question were released upon representations of the British Government that they were British vessels. They were released, because our right to hold tliem was deemed too doubtful to be enforced. Our Government did what it believed to be right in the matter, without constraint from any quarter. The probability is that the "Anna Beck," alleged to be a British steam schooner from Victoria, the arrest of which by the Revenue cutter " Rush " for alleged violation of our Alaska Revenue Laws was reported yesterday, will be released the same way if the facts are as alle-ed. The claim that Bebring's Sea is a marc clausum upon which the seizure of foreign vessels for violating our Revenue Laws proceeds seems 1 1 be untenable. Wc contended that it was not when Russia owned all the territory on both sides of it. Now that we own half and Russia half, it seems impossible to maintain the mare clausum theory.' " What course of action will be followed by the people here is not yet determined, but some c.eps should be taken by the Local and Civic Governments in order to convey the deep feeling of indignation entertained against the repeated acts of lawlessness on tiie part of the American authorities, and their regi-ct that better protection is not aflforded our lishing interests. A. Laing, mate of the " W. P. Sayward," arrived down from Nanaimo last evenine, having left the " Idaho " at that point. He coiToborates the fact that the " Rush " was entering Sitka as the steamer left, having in charge a number of schooners, the names of which were unknown. The Americans evidently intend to make a clean sweep of the schooners sealing north this season. Portions of the crews of the ueized schooners are on the "Idaho " and will arrive over from Port Townsend to-day. A uumber of sailors and Indians have started for Victoria in boats. ' . —• .. . *w>.^,: , .; i , i i{* fl 1 1- i 1! ::■■ 1 ■ I y 88 It was reported that Captain Miner, of tiie scliooncr " Penelope," liad overpowered the men put or his schooner as a prize crew, and was now on hie way to Victoria ^ith his unwilling passengers. No. 53. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. West. Sir, Foreign Office, September 10, 1887. BY a dospatcli of the 30th October last the late Earl of Iddcslcijjh instructed you to call the attention oi" the United States' Secretary of State to the circMun- stances of the seizure in Bcbring's Sea, hy the American cruizcr " Corwin," of some Jiritish Canadian vessels ; and his Lordship directed you to state to .Mr. Secre- tary Bayard that Her Majesty's Government felt sure that if the proecedinsjs which were rejjortcd to have tak(>n place in the United States' District Court were correctly descrihed, the United States' (lovernment would admit their ilhipriility. and would cause reasonable reparation to he niado to the British subjects for th ; wrongs to which tliey had been subjected and for th(> losses which they had sustained. J}y a j)rovioi's desi>atch of the 9th September you had been desired to ask to be furnished with any particulars which the United States' Government might possess relative to the seizures in question ; and on the 20th October you were instructed to enter a protest on behalf of Her Majesty's Government, and reserve for consideration hereafter all rights to compcmsation. Nearly four months having elapsed without any definite information being furnished by the United States' Government as to the grounds of the seizures, my predecessor instructed you, on the 8tli January last, to express to Mr. Bayard the concern of Her Majesty's Government at the delay, and to urge the immediat*; attention of the United States' GoAcrnment to the action of the American authorities in their treat- ment of these vessels and of their masters and crews. On the 3rd February Mr. Hayard informed you that the record of the judicial proceedings which he had called for was shortly expected to reach Washington, and that, Avithout conclusion at that time of any questions which might be found to he involved in these cases of s<>i/,ures, orders had been issued by the President's direc- tion for the discontinuance of all pending proceedings, the discharge of the vessels referred to, and the release of all pcirsons under arrest in I'ounection therewith. On the '1th April, under instructions from me, yoti inquired of Jlr. Baynrd, in view of the approaching fishing season in Bebring's Sea, whether the owners of British vessels might rely when not near land on being unmolested by the cruizers of the United States, and you again asked when the record of the judicial pnKTe(liny;s might be expected. Mr. Bayard informed you, iii reply (12th A])ril), that tiie papers referred to had reached him aid were being examined; that thero had been unavoidable delay in framing appropriate llogulations and issuing orders to the United States' vessels to jiolico the Alaskan watcu's; that the Revised Statutes relating to Alaska, Sections 15)50 and 15)71, contained the Laws of the United States in relation to the matter; and that the llogulations were being considered, and he would inl'onii you at the earliest day possible what had been decided, so that British and other vessels might govern themselves accordingly. In view of the statements made by Mr. Bayard in his note of the 3rd February, to which I have referred above, Ilcr Majesty's Government assumed that, pending a conclusion of the discussion between tlio two Governments on the general question involved, no further similar seizures of British vessels would be made by order of the United States' Government. They learn, however, from the contents of Mr. Bayard's note of the 13th August last, inclosed in your despatch of the IStli August, that such was not the meaning which ho intended should be attached to his communi- cation of the 3rd February ; and they deeply regret to find a proof of their misinter- pretation of the intentions of the United S(;ates' Government from an announcement recently received from the Commander-in-chief of Her jMajesty's naval forces in the Pacific, that several more British vessels engaged in seal-hunting in Behring's Sea have been seized when a long distance from land by an American llevenue vessel Her Majesty's Government have carefully considered the transcript of record of the judicial proceedings in the United States' District Court in the several cases of the schooners "Carolina," "Onward," and "Thornton,' which w«re communicated M J overpowered (r 10, 1887. !gh instructed • the cinMiin- ' Corwin," of to ^[r. Sccnv cdiiii^s wliicli verc correctly I would cause to which they d to ask to he might possess instructed to consideration raation being seizures, my rd the concern tention of the n their tr(>iit- f the judicial ishington, and c found to he sidont's direc- of the vessels ■with. r. Eaynrd, in 10 owners of he crui/ers ol 1 proceedings il), tiiat the lerc had hecn to the United :s relatinn' to tes in relation would in fori II sh and other Jrd Fel)ruary, at, pendini,' a loral question T order of the Mr. Bayard's August, that lis commuui- leir misinter- nnouncoment forces in the liehring's Sea uo vessel ; of record of veral cases of ommunicated 89 to you in July, and were transmitted to me in your despatch of the 12th of that month, and they cannot find in them any justification for the condemnation of those vessels. The libels of information allege that they were seized for killing fur-seal within the limits of Alaska Territory, and in the waters thereof, in violation of Section 1956 of the Revised Statutes of the United States ; and the United States' Naval Com- mander Al)i)ey certainly affirmed that the vessels were seized within the waters of Alaska and the Tcrritoiy of Alaska ; but according to his own evidence they were seized 75, 115, and 70 miles respectively south-south-east of St. George's Island. It is not disputed, therefore, that tho seizures in (juestion were effected at a distance from land far in excess of the limit of maritime jurisdiction which any nation can (daim l)y ititernational law, and it is hardly necessary to add that such limit caimot be eidarged by any municipal law. The claim tiius set up appears to be lounded on the exceptional title said to have been conveyed to the United States by Ilussia at the time of tiie cession of the Alaska Territory. The jiretension which the Russian Government at one time put forward to exclusive jurisdiction over the whole of Bchring's Sea was, hoM-ever, never admitted either by this country or by the United States of America. On the contrary, it Avas strenjiously resisted, as*I shall presently show, and the American Government can hardly claim to have received from Russia rights which they declared to be inad- missible M'hen asserted by the Russian Government. Nor does it appear from the text of the Treaty of 1867"that Russia either intended or purported to make any such grant; for, by Article I of that instrument, Russia agreed to cede to the United States all the territory and dominion then possessed by Russia " on the Continent of America and in the adjacent islands " within certain geographical limits described, and no mention Avas made of any exclusive right over the M'atere of Bchring's Sea. Moreover, whatever riglits as regards their respective subjects and citizens may be reciprocally conferred on tho Russian and American Governments 'jy Treaty stipulation, the subjects of ller Majesty cannot be thereby alTected, exccfo by special arrangement Avith tliis country. With regard to the exclusive claims advanced in times past by Russia, i transmit to yo;i documents communicated to the United States' Congress by President Monroe in 1822, wliich show the view taken by the American Government of these preten- sions. In 1821 the Emperor of Russia had issued an Edict establishing " Rules for the limits of navigation and order of (iomniunication along the coast of the Eastern Siberia, the north-wester]! coast of America, and the Aleutian, Kurilc, and other islands." The first section of that Edict said : " The puKuit of commerce, whaling, and fishery, and of all other industry on all islands, ports, and gulfs, including tho whole of the north-west coast of America, beginning from Bchring's Straits to the 51st degree of northern latitude; also from the Aleutian Islands to the eastern coast of Siberia, as well as along the Kurile Islands from Bchring's Straits to the south Cape of the Island of Uru" viz., to the 45° 50' of northern latitude, is exclusively granted to Russian subjects ;" and section 2 stated : " It is, therefore, prohibited to all foreign vessels not (mly to land on the coast and islands beh)nging to Russia, as stated above, but also to approach thciu within less than 100 Italian miles. The transgressor's vessel is subject to confiscation, along with the whole cargo." A co])y of tiicse Hegnhitions was officially (;omniuiiicated to the American Secre- tary of State by the Russian iMinister at Washington on the lltii February, 1822; whereupon .Mr. (iuincy Adams, on the 25th of that mouth, after informing liim that the President of the United States had seen with surprise tho assertion of a territorial claim on the part of Russia, extending to the 5l8t degree of north latitude on the American Continent, and a Regulation interdicting to all commercial vessels other than Russian, upon the penalty of seizure and confiscation, tho apjjroach upon the high seas within 100 Italian miles of the shores to which that claim was made to apply, went on to say that it A\as expected before any act which should define the boundary between the territories (jf the United States and Russia, that the same would have been arranged by Trijaty between the parties, and that "to exclude tlu; vessels of American citizens from the shore beyond lue ordintmi distance to which territorial jurisdiction extends has ex(!itcd still greater surprise;" and Mr. Adams asked whether the Russian Minister was authorized to give explanations of the " grounds of right, upon principles generally recognized by the laws and usages of nations, which can warrant the claims and Picgulations." '1281 ' M I 1 90 Tlip Russian Minister, in his reply, dated th> • 28tli February, after explaining how Russia had acqiiircd her possessions in North America, said : — " T ought, in the last place, to request you to consider, Sir, that the Russian possc'ssions in the Pacific Ocean extend on the north-west coast of America from Bchring's Strait to the 61st degree of north latitude, and on the opposite side of Asia and the islands adjacent from the same Strait to the 45th degree. The extent of sea of wiiich these possessions foim the limits corajji-ehends all the conditions which are ordinarily attached to shut seas (' mers ferme'rs '), and t!io Russian Government might consequently judge itself authorized to ('xei-cise upon t^his sea the right of sovereignty, and especially that of entirely interdicting the entrance of foreigners ; hut it preferred only asserting its essential rights without taking advantage of localities." On the 30th Jlarcll Mr. Adams replied to the explanations given hy the Russian Minister, lie stated that, with respect to the pretension advanced in regard to terri- tory, it nmst he considered not only with reference to the question cf territorial rights, hut also to that proliihition to the vessels of other nations, including those of the United States, to approach within 100 Italian miles of the coasts. That from the period of the existence of the ITnited States as an independent nation their vessels had freely navigated these seas, the right to navigate them heiug a part of that independence; and with regard to the suggestion that "the Russian Government might have justified the exercise of sovereignty over the Pacific Ocean as a close sea, ' because it claims territory both on its American and Asiatic shores,' it may sufBce to say that the distance from shore to shore on this sea, in latitude 51° north, is not less than ninety degrees of longitude, or 4,000 miles." Mr. Adams concluded as follows: "The President is persuaded that the citizens of this Union will remain unmolested in the prosecution of their lawful commerce, and that no effect will he given to an interdiction manifestly incompatible with their rights." The Convention between the United States of America and Russia of the 17th April, 1824, put an end to any further pretension on the part of Russia to restrict navigation or fishing in Behring's Sea so far as American citizens were concerned ; for by Article I it was agi-eed that in any part of the Great Ocean, commonly called the Pacific Ocean or Suith Sea, the respective citizens or subjects of the High Contracting Powers shall neither be disturbed nor restrained, either in navigation or fishing, saving certain restrictions whicii are not material to the i)rcscnt issue ; and a similar stipulation in the Convention between this country and Russia in the following year (15th May, 1825) put an end, as regarded British subjects, to the prc^tensions of Russia to which I have referred, and whicli had been entirely repudiat(id by Her Majesty's Government in correspondence with the Russian Government in 1821 and 1822 which for your more particular information 1 inclose hei-ein. Her Majesty's Government feel sure that, in view of the considerations whicli I have set; forth in this despatch, which you will communicate to Mr. Bayard, the Government of the United States will admit that tho seizure aiul condemnation of these British vessels, and the imprisonment of their mnsters and crrews, were not warranted by the circumstances, and that they will be ready to all'ord reasonable compensation to those who have sufferc' in conse<iuence, and issiu; immediate instructions to their naval officers which w.ii prevent a recurrence of these regrettable incidents. I am, &c. "■' (Signed) SALISBURY. il No. 54. Sir H. Holland to the Marquis of Lansdowne. ,y:i! ... A My Lord, Downing Street, September 14, lfc87. WITH reference to previous correspondence, I have the honour to acquaint you, for the information of your Ministers, that the Marquis of Salisbury caused to be referred to the Law Oflicers the correspondence which has passed repccting the seizure of tin; three British sealing-vessels, the "Thornton," the "Carolina," and the "Onward," by ihu United States' Revenue cruizer " Corwin," in Behring's Sea, and thu; they advised that u claim for compensation might properly be made against the United States' Governinent. I telegraphed to you on the 7th instant that it was proposed to prefer a claim fur compensation against the United States' Government, and in()uiring what amoUiit yuur 91 Ministers would suggest ; but as ut present advised. it does not seem to me desirable to put forward the claims which accompanied your despatch of the 15th January, as some ot them are apparently much cxa^^gerated, and a new issue would be raised as to tlie reason- ableness ut' the claims. In the meantime, the Marquis of Salisbury has addressed the despatch, of which I inclose a copy,* to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington, desiring him to communicate it to the Secietary of State. Your Ministers will no doubt take this matter into consideration at the earliest moment. . . ■ -■•■• ' . . I have, &c. „ >. (Signed) H.T.HOLLAND. No. 55. Sir L. iVest to the Maniuts of Salisbury. — {Received September 15.) My Lord, • Washington, September G, 1887. I HAVi-", the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith an article from the "New York Times " on nuiritime jurisdiction in Behring's Sea. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WKST. Inclosure in No. 55. Extract from the " New York Times" of September 5, 1887. A DisPUTET) OcEAV. — When the new Fisheries "Commission," as Mr. Bayard insists it should not be called, was first announced in Parliament, it was said that its scope would be limited to the controversy between Canada and the United States. But in response toMr.Gourlay's inquiry, it was subsequently added that tiie question of including the Alaska seal fisheiics was under consideration. It is therefore none too early for public opinion to begin seiiously to shape itself on a question about which much less lias been said than in the interminable cocifish squabble, it is, moreover, a very i)rctfy question in itself, that of our riglits in Behring's Sea, and involves issues of no slight intrinsic value. As everybody knows, Russia regarded Behring's Sea as hers, just as we regard Delaware and Chesapeake Bays as ours, to compare little things with big. Then Russia ceded to us the coast on one side of this little ocean, together with one-half the ocean itself. Next, Congress sold the right of catching seals in what we will call " our " part of that ocean. And now the question of our rights ailres upon the catching red-handed poachers who ha;jpen to he British. It is intimated that Russia could not convey to us what she did not own licrself, and that when we bought Alaska we took in fact much less than the deed, that is the Treaty, recited. The merits of *\\c question are of course involved in Russia's rights. Her exclusive rights were not conceded, but, on the contrary, were promptly attacked when they were announced in the Ukase of 1821. The title was thus clouded, but it was not invalidated. Russia's last word was that, although she did not care to argue about her rights, whoever invaded them did so at his peril. Instead of quarrelling, Russia and the United States agreed that the citizens of both countries should have unrestrained privileges in those waters. In other words, although Russia's right of exclusion of Americans was disputed, it was deemed good enough by us in 1824 to be the basis of a bargain. Great Britain made a similar Treaty the next year. The British Treaty is still in force, we suppose, over the western, or Russian, half of Behring's Sea. Great Britain's rights in the western half are therefore based on the same title as ours in the eastern. She cannot admit the rights of the Czar and deny those of the United States. On the other hand, the United States are not thus involved. We protested against the pretensions of the Czar because they injured American conmierce. But, having acquired the Czar's asserted rights by purchase, we are now as much interested in defending them as we before were in attacking them. At the very least we can require that whoever questions those rights should come into Court with clean hands. I'hat means much in connection with this topic, as can readily be made clear. •-"*-—-.■ • No. 63. __ ^ ... [138] "~ N2 Ilij-ai t 'i i ,1 92 Russia's rights are attacked on the very simple ground that she might as well have annexed the open ocean as Beliring's Sea. Russia's position was that the Aleutian Isles, scattered aloni; in a chain between Asia and America, cut otf tiiat northern portion of the PaclGc Ocean and made it an interior sea, like liudson'tt Kay, in British North Acne ica, or like the Gulf of California. The claim would be more readily conceded if the Aleui iaii Isles were more contiguous. As matter of fact, 900 miles of blue water separate vhc westernmost island from the most eastern extension of Russian mainland. But between the two most separated islands the distance, it must be admitted, is considerably less. Still, it would be enough to overthrow the mare claiisum theory were the attack made by any other nation than England. That "closed sea" theory is briefly an agreement among nations that so many of them as have sea-coasts may annex so much of the ocean as they can control, and control is construed to extend as far ns a cannon-ball can reach. That is the antiquated theory on which exclusive maritime jurisdiction is conceded by nations to one another over tlie ocean .'< miles from shore. Of course, if two capes were only 3 miles apart the interior sea beyond them would, on the strict mare clausum conten- tion, be conceded to the nation owning the capes, but not otherwise. But neither England nor the United States should push this closed sea argument too hard or too far. England once claimed to own the entire ocean surrounding the British Isles, and in 180(3 the United States thought it ought to be conceded a right to exclude belligerents from the Atlantic Ocean between the Gulf Stream and the mainland. To abandon extreme positions and come down to the contentions of to-day, England, whicii denies to Russia the right to define its possessions by imaginary lines drawn from island to island, assumes to itself the riglit to exclude Americans from the open ocean ir^cluded by an imaginary line from headland to headland. Who seeks equity must do equity. The English must not both keep their codfish and grab our seals. On the other hand, by the strictest teclmical argument it might be that we could both keep what Russia sold us and get what England unjustly denies us. Secretary Bayard has given abundant intima- tion of his opinion that a plenary Council would limit the rights which the C/ar assumed to convey to us. It is given out that the proper thing would be to arrange upon rules for all to observe regarding seal-rtshing. Perhaps so. But that leaves the dispute of right and title untouched, and who can say in what form it may return to plague us "r* Moreover, while Americans are doubtless j.repared to yield what others justly claim, still, there should be no surrender before challem'e. No. 56. The Murquig of Salitthury to Sir L. ^Vest, Sir, Foreign Office, September 15, 1887. IT appears from the transcript of the record of the judicial proceedings in the cases of the schooners "Carolina," "Onward," and "Thornton," forwarded in your despatch of the r2th July last, that in each case notice was given of appeul from the finding of the District Court. I have to request that you will ascertain whether the owners of the vessels have taken steps to prosecute the appeal, and if so, when such appeal may be expected to come on for hearing. I am. Sec. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 57. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received September 16.) Sir, Downing Street, September 15, 1887. WITH reference to previous correspondence, I an) directed by the Secretary of State for the Colonies to transmit to you, to be laid before the iMarquis of Salisbury, copies of two despatches from the Governor-General of Canada, forwarding papers respecting the recent seizure of British sealing-vessels by a United States' Revenue cutter in Behriiig's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. m 98 it as well have Aleutian Isles, portion of the Jortii Arr.e ice, it the Aleui ian r separate the But between iisiderably less. i attack made F an agreement ;h of the ocean ball can reach. s conceded by wo capes were Ittusuni conten- i argument too ni; the British ight to exclude mainland. To ilndand, whicli wn from island ocean iticluded lUst do equity, other hand, by Russia sold us undant intima- ! C/ar assumed upon rules for ispute of ri^ht to plague us ? itiy claim, still, er 15, 1887. ill the cases of your despatch tinding of the ;els have taken to come on for ^LISBURY. er 16, 1887. retary of State Jury, copies of respecting the r in Behriiig's HERBERT. Sir, ; 1 .1 .'.j.m' ii.-n \i I Indosure 1 in No. 67> '*'' ••• ' . i* .' . '' ... The Mnrquis of Lansdowne to Sir H. Holland. ■ 'J New Derreen, New Richmond, P.Q., August 19, 1887- I HAVE the honour to inclose herewith, for your information, copies of a Report which has been received by my Minister of Marine and Fisheries from the Collector of Customs at Victoria, British Columbia, in regard to the seizure of the sealers " Grace," "Dolphin," and " W. P. Say ward" by the United Slates' Revenue cutter "Ricbair Rush." 2. Report states positively taken in the Behring's Sea. 3. It is scarcely necessary to dwell upon the grievous hardship occasioned by these seizures, for which, as far as I am aware, no justification has yet been forthcoming, not only to the owners and to the officers and crews, but to the Indian hunters on board who were, it appears, left to find their way home as they could from Sitka to their own villages, distant about 700 miles from that place. I have, &c. (Signed) LANSDOWNE I beg to call your especial attention to the deposition inclosed in Mr. Ilamley's of Captain Laing, of the " W. P. Sayward." You will observe that Captain Laing positively that the seals of which the skins were found on board his vessel were not. Inclosure 2 in No. 57. The Marquis of Lansdowne to Sir H. Holland. Sir, The Citadel, Quebec, Auguxt 27, 1887. WITH reference to my despatch of the 19th instant, in regard to the seizure of the sealers " Grace," " Dolphin," and " VV. P. Sayward " by the United States' Revenue cutter " Richard Rush," I have the honour to forward herewith copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council of Cana'!:"., to which are appended copies of the following documents : — 1. A letter from H. Hamley, Collector of Customs at Victoria, British Columbia, te the Minister of Marine and Fisheries. 2. The affidavit of Andrew Laing, mate of the seized schooner "Sayward,"' sworn to at Victoiia on the 8th August, 18S7. 3. The information filed in the District Court of the United States for the District of Alaska against the master and mate of the " Sayward." It is requested that these papers, copies of which were inclosed in my above- nicuiioned despatch, may be transmitted to the Foreign Office, in order that a remonstrance may be addressed to the United States' Government against the unwarrant- able action of the Commander of the "Rush," and a claim made for all damages arising from the seizure of ihe " Sayward," and the detention of her officers and crew. T have, &c. (Signed) LANSDOWNE. Inclosure 3 in No. .57. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor- General in Council on August 23, 1887 ON a Report, dated the 17th August, 1887, from the Minister of Marine and I'isheries, submitting, with reference to tiie seizure by the United States' steamer "Richard Rush" on the 9th July last, in the Beh ing's Sea, of the British schooner " W. P. Sayward," of Victoria, the following papers : — 1. A letter from W. Hamley, Collector of Customs at Victoria, British Columbia, to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries ; 2. The affidavit of Andrew Laing, mate of the seized schooner, sworn to at Victoria on the 8th August, 1887 ; and 3. The information filed in the District Court of the Unit&i States for the District of Alaska against the master and mate of the " Sayward ;" The Minister observes that, upon reference to the affidavit of the mate of the schooner 'i»:i ITT K i '«i tn Ih ,i \w 1 i'lif i4 ' ■■ «*n n fir 1 iu'i J U4 " Say ward," it appears that all t^e s.eAlB on. boKrd the vessel were taken in the Pacific Occiin, iiiui before the vessel entered the Rehring's Sea, so that even the nlleRed claim on the part of tlic United States' Government to jui'isdietion in the Hchring'ii Sea is not available in the ease now complained of; and would also call attention to the reply of the Coniiiaiider of the United States' steamer "Richard Rush," in which he states his orders were " to tiik»; everythins? he came across in ihe Behring's Sea." Tlio Committer recommend that your Excellency be moved to forward copies of the annexed papers to the Right Honourable the Principal Secretary of State for tlie Colonies, for transmission to the Foreign Office, in order that a remonstrance may be made to the United States' Government for so unwarrantable an act as that committed by the Commander of the " Richard Rush," and a claim made for all damages arising out of the seizure of the schooner " W. P. Sayward " in the open sea, and the detention of her officers and crew, and also that copies of the papers be sent to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington. All which is i-espectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, < Privy Council. Inclosurc 4 in No. 57. Mr. Hamley to the Hon. G. E. Foster. Sii', Custom-House, Victoria, August 9, 1887. ON the 5th instant I sent you word by telegram that three more Canadian vessels had been seized in Behring's Sea, and sent to Sitka, "Grace," " Dolphin,'' and " W. P. Sayward." This news reached us by the steamer " Olympian," and, the day following, the mate of the " \V. P. Sayward," one of tlie seized vessels, came down on the steamer "Idaho.'' I had him here at tho custom-house, and his statement in some particulars was so important that 1 thought it desirable that it should be taken down before a notary piil'lic, and the deposition forwarded to you. I inclose it herewith. The seizure was made on tlie !(tii July by the master of the Revenue cutter " Rush " in Behi:ig's Sea, from 30 to 40 miles from any hind ; the mate denies that any seal was killed in Behring's Sea; the skins, 479 in number, all taken, he says, in the Pacific, were lodged in the Alaska Company's warehouse at Ounalaska, and the vessel herself sent to Sitka. There is no doubt now, from the declaration of the master of the United States' Revenue cutter made openly on the deck of the " W. P. Sayward," that, in seizing this and other Canadian vessels, he was acting under direct instructions from the United States' Government. I forward also the information laid in the District Court at Sitka by the United States' Attorney Ball ngainst the master and mate of the " W. P. Sayward." The indictments against the masters and mates of the other vessels are in the same form and terms— tiie complaint being that they had killed fur-seals in Behring's Sea, contrary to the Statutes of tiie United States, and against the peace and dignity of the United States of America. The case is to be heard in the District Court at Sitka on the 22nd of this month. The mate of the " W. P. Sayward" was allowed out on bail in 500 dollars, and returned last night for the trial. I have, &c. (Signed) W. HAMLEY. •I .:Hi .. .• i;i.-..ji < 1 .r. U. Inclosure 5 in No. 57. Declaration of Andrew Laing. [See Inclosure 3 in No. d2.J AZ\.. , i.«;:i;(ui'i. r. '.,.■!> .i. iiiii'J..d ,-';iTj(Ui '"- ■;;' j 1. I ' li -i' ,'t iV.A-r'r • i,.-,jt/ m :,!).«■,< /j;a .4.Y/ ' Ij . (. iiUiU ■,':.' i'.il A .1 - .; U) ;ji)!.« ."if.'iHii V? :\u:\i\ :■> n/Hli(ttf! 'jri 1 .k. ;■;■•;! .\<\:.,:. :l)r) viiJ '.' ■jtii u<)I));wi'Jo1i;: 'dT ,R ,,.., ... :. lii •i<>l"K(n 'Jill 1 iiiKyr; BiU: ■^ 9S in the Pacifif ?ged claim on 's Sea is not B reply of the tes his orders copies of the the Coloniesi, ! made to the litted by the ng out of the tention of her 's Minister at Clerk, ivy Council. uat 9, 1887. nadian vessels "and"W. P. day following, )n the steamer jarticulars was ;fore a notary ;ure was made ig's Sea, from iehring's Sea ; in the Alaska There is no e cutter made her Canadian ernment. )y the United ward." The nmc form and ontrary to the ted States of e 22nd of this dollars, and IIAMLEY. , /..i .'i.V' ■ .. A .1 .1 1 ii-^iaiU. ■•■ irl i .!i iT ,F. ,.,■.■■: ciU.l ■'■il ; IT Inclosure 6 in No. 57. In the District Court of the United States for the District ol Alaska. ' The United States v. George K. Ferry and A. Luiny. — It\f'orination. (v,H i!'» T,!i.', n,>., : ■i\ [See Inclosure 2 in No. 52.] ,. , , ., , , - I ■n- -;,t No. ')S. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received September U(i.) Sir Downing Street, Septrmber 21, 1887. WITH reference to recent correspondence, I an» directed by Secretary Sir Henry Holland to transmit to you, for such action upon it as the Marquis of Sulishury may think proper to take, a telegram received this day from the Governor-General uf Cunado, relating to the (juestion of the release of the British Columbian sealing-vcsscls seized by the United States' authorities in Behring's Sea. This telegram ajjpears to relate to the vessels seized last year. I am to request to be informed of any communication which may be made tu thf' United States' Government in order that a reply may be sent to the Governor-General. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosure in No. 58. The Marquis of Lansdowne to Colonial Office. ■ . I (Telegraphic.) September 23, 18S7. t UNDERSTAND that, after Mr. Bayard's announr inent of the 3rd February respecting Behring's Sea seizures, instructions were sent in accordance with it to the Alaska authorities by telegraph ; that an instrument for the release of the vessels was thereupon issued by the District Judge, but that subsequently, on the assumjition that the telegram was forged, he rescinded the order ; that no steps have been taken by the Department since ; the vessels are still detained. My Government trusts the facts will be inquired into. ;l . ': .ijI No. 59. The Marquin of Salisbury to Sir L. West. — {Substance telegraphed.) Sir, * • Foreign Office, September 27, 1887. I TRANSMIT to you, for your information, a copy of a letter from the Colonial Office,* inclosing a telegraai from the Governor-General of Canada, from which it appears that the British schooners "CaroUna," "Onward," and "Thornton," referred to in your despatch of the 4th February last, have not yet been released. In his note of the 3rd February, inclosed in your above-mentioned despatch, Mr. Bayard stated that "orders have been issued, by the President's direction, for the discontinuance of all pending proceedings, the discharge of the vessels rett^rred to, and the release of all persons under arrest in connection therewith." Her Majesty's Government regret to learn that delay has taken place in the rt.'ease of the three vessels, and I have to instruct you to inquire the reason why the directions of the President, as above quoted, have not been carried out. , I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. ^^■r'-l .1 'i'i'iW.Tt, •• ■ ...I 1 1.-/ ■l\l.j,y)i ] 'JV;.., 1 li:) •lUi • No. 58. M No. GO. The Marquvi of Salisbury to Sir L. West, Sir, Foreiijn Office, September 27, 1887. I TIIANSMIT to you lierewith copies of two dcspatclics nddrcssed to Her Majesty's Secretary of State for tlic Colonies l)y tl>c (Joveriior-Ucncral of C'nnuda,* forwarding papem relativf to the seizure in Hciirinfi's Sea by the United Stiites* Ilcveuuc cutter " Kichard Rush " of tliree British Colombian vessch, the " Grace," the " Dolphin," and tiic " W. P. Sayward." I iiavc to request that you will make a ro presentation to the United States' Govern- ment on tiic subject of the seizure and detention of tiiese vessels in connection with the representations which I instructed you to make in the cases of the "Onward," the "Carolina," and the "Thornton," and that you will reserve ail rights to compensation on behalf of the owners and crews. You should point out to Mr. Bayard that in the case of the " \V. P. Sayward," according to the de|)osition of her mate no seals had been taken by her crew in Hehring's Sea as is alleged in tiic libel of information filed on behalf of the United States' District Attorney in the District Court of Alaska. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. ! { } 1 ■1l No. 01. Menioraiidum communicated by Baron Plessen, October o, 1887. TIll-j Iiiiperini Government would like to know what are the views of Her Britannic Majesty's Government with regard to the American proposal for an International Convention for the |)rotection of seals in the Behring's Sea. No. 62. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received October 6.) (E.\tract.) Washington, September 23, 1887. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your Lordship's despatch of the lUtli instant, and to inform your Lordship that I communicated it this day to the Secretary of State, and, at his request, left a copy of it in his hands. No. 63. Admiralty to Foreign Office. — {Received October 6.) Sir, Admiralty, October 4, 1887. I AM coninianded by the Lords Comtnissionero of the Admiralty to transmit, for tiio information of tiie Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, copy of a letter from the Commander-in-chief on the Pacific Station, dated the 14th September, inclosing a list of the schooners that have been sealing, extracted from the " Victoria Colonist " newspaper, dated the 13th September. A similar letter has been sent to the Colonial Office. I am, &c. (Signed) EVAN MACGRKGOR. Inclosure 1 in No. 63. Kear'Admiral Culme-Seymour to Admiralty. Sir, " Ttiumph," at Esquimalt, September 14, 188". THE sealing season being now over, I have the honour to inclose a list of the schooners that have been sealing, cut from the " Victoria Colonist '' of yesterday's date. It is not yet known whether the five vessels " to arrive " have been seized or not, but they are overdue iiere. * Inclo(ui-et in No. 57. 97 iber 27, 1887. u Her Majesty's rwarding papers !utter " Richard phin," and tlie States' Govern- ncction with the "Onward," tiie :ompi>nsation on iV. 1». Sayward," rcw in Behring's i States' District JALISBURY. 17. )f Mer Hritannic tn International 6.) nber 23, 1887. ip's despatch of this day to the :tober 4, 1887. transmit, for the letter from the iclusing a list of list " newspaper, ACGRKGOR. nber 14, 1887. se a list of the yesterday's date, or not, but they With reference to the schooner " Alfred Adams," I nni credibly informed she wai boarded by the American Revenue schooner in Hehring'd Sea, her skins (l,3U() in number) taken out, as well as her arms, and she was told to proceed to Sitka. No one being put on board, the captian brought his vessel down here. No orders whatever have ever been received here with regard to the release of the schooners seized last year, which are now, 1 believe, high and dry at Ounalaska, worm* eaten and worth Iciw, I have, &c. (Signed) M. CULME-SIiYMOUR. ' Inclosurc 2 in No. (i3. Extract from the "Daily Colonist," Victoria, /?. ('., of Septmnbrr l.'l. 1887. List of VenHels Arrived, with their total Catch ,- thone to Arrive ; HchooiierM neized. THE following is the list of scaling sciiouners which have arrived in port with their northern catches ; also those to arrive and thosi- seized. The coast catch by Indians and the spring catch by American sealers disposed of in V^ictoriu are also appended : — Vkbrei.s AitRivKn. Nami". S])rin(f Ciitcli. Nortlirrii Cutoli. T(itol. ratlifindi'r .. ., .. 400 2,377 2,817 I'ciu'lopo , , , , 1 ,000 I,o00 2,o00 Miirv Kllfii . . 3f.7 2,090 2,4.^7 Loltic l'"nirficl(l , . . . 400 2,(>00 3,000 Miirv 'I'njliir , . . . 200 800 1,000 Mountuiii Chief . . 400 «H7 1,087 Block lliuiuoiul , , 0114 ,, Adula .. .. .. 1»4 1,350 1,514 Adn Kate Fnvouritc Thcicsn Triuiiiph Dolphin . . Urucc Annii Deck . . W. P. Snywnrd Aified AihunR Vesibi.s to Aruivf. 349 j 1,030 307 21 Vessels Seizrp. I 1,J00 The number of seals caught by American schooners and sold in this city is follows : — Helen liltiin Sylvin lliindy Sun Jos6 . City of Snu Diego Vaiidcibik Discovery 43G 1.3'J 197 200 017 250 Tlic Neali Bay schooner "Lottie's" northern catch was disposed of the other day, and amounted to 700 skins. This makes the total catch, so far as could be {^leaned yesterday, 19,046 skins by British vcs.sels, and 2,539 skins disposed of by American schooners. The catch off the west coast by the Indians end sold to store-keepers was 500. The total number of skins brought into port for this season will represent in dollars, at G dol. 50 c. per skin, the handsome sum of 140,302 dol. 50 c. [128] 98 ii H ii No. 64. Sir L. Weil to the Marquin of Salinburif. — {Received October 10.) My Lord, Wunhington, September 28, 1887. IN pursuance of the ingtructions contoiiii-d in your Lordshiit'ii telegram of yesterday's date, I have this dny addressed a note to Mr. Bayard, copy of wliich is herewith inclosed, inquiring the reason for the non-release of the liritisli vessels mentioned in his note of the 3ra February lost. I also have the honour to transmit herewith to your Ix)nl8hip copy of an extract from the " New York Tribune " of yestenlay bearing on this point. I have, i&c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILE WEST. Inclosuru I in No. 64. Sir L. IVent to Mr. Bmiard. Sir, iyiLvliinijInn, September 28, 1887. I HAVE the honour to inform you tliiil llcr Majesty's Government have been oflficiiilly informed that the British vessels tnontiom-ii in your note of the .'kd February last have not been released, and tbut I am insiruetcd to incjuire the reason for the delay in complying with the orders sent to this educt, as stated in yimr al)ovu-mcntioned note. I have, &c. (Si-ned) 1* S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosuie 2 in No. C4. Extract from the "New York rrllnuif" of September 27, H87. TiiE Alaska Skizuues. Ollnwa, September 26, 1 887. TIIE Government has Just received the Report of Mr. Drake, Q.C., who was sent to Alaska to investijyate matters in connection with the Behrins^'s Sea seizures. The following is a copy of the despatch addressed to .Judi^e Lafayette Dawson and Colonel Ball, United States' District Attoniev at Sitka, whicii has not been carried out to this day, and in respect to which the Canadian (jovernment has recently sent a strong protest to the mother-country for transmission to Washimtton : — " Wnxhinijtoti, Jununry 2(5, 1887. " I am directed by the President to instruct you to discontinue all |)rocccdinps in the matter ot seizure of the J5riti-li vessels 'Carolina.' 'Onward,' and *'i"hornton,' and to discliarj^e all vessels now held undL'r such sei/m-es, and relea.se all persons that may lie under arrest in connection therewith. (Signed) "A. II. Gaklaud, Attorney-General." .)ndge Dawson thereupon issued an order to .Marshal Atkins to lelease the vessels, but, as stated in previous des|)atclie.«, afterwards withdrew it on the representnlion, Mr. Drake gays, of Atkin.s, and against the express opinion of Colonel Ball. .V record of the original instructions appears on tiie books of tlic District Court, but there is no record of their withdrawal. The "Onward," "Carolina," and "Thornton" are still beached at Ounalaska, and cannot be removed without considerable expense. The skins taken on these vessels were sent to San Francisco by a steamer belonging; to the Alaska Commercial Comj)anj. Mr. Drake says he camiot find that there was any authority given by the United States' Government for seizures made last year, but that they seem to have been made at the instance and in the interests of the Commercial Company. No. 65. Note from United States' Minister at Stockholm to Swrdish Government. — {Communicnied by M. d'Adelborg, October 10, 1887.) THE Government of the United States recognizes the necessity of taking steps for the better protection of the fur-seal fisheries in Behring's Strait. The indiscriminate and unregulated killing of these valuable animals has of late years greatly veduced their number, and threatens in a comparatively short time to all but extinguish them. 99 3.) pfr 28. 1887. I of yesterday's ewith inclosed, hio note of the ' of an extnict The importance of respective Oovernmenta entering into un armngement which shall have for its purpose the regulation of scnUhunting and to the present indiscriminate ■laughter of seals, is so apparent that it needs no elaboration. To this end I am dnccted to invite (he United Kingdoms of Sweden and Norway Ir enter into sucii an arrangement with the Government of tiie United States as will prevenJ the citizens of either country from killing seal in Behring's Sea in such times and places and hv such methods as at present are pursued. I'he Governments of Germany, Great Britain, Russia, France, and Japan, have like« wise been invited to co-operate to this end. ILE WEST. ,er 28, 1887. unt have heuii I February last for tiie delay itioncd note. ,LE VVliST. /^r 26, 1887. trlio was sent to seizures. The d Colontl Ball, o this day, and ; protest to the rij 2(5, 1887. cfcdings in (1r' niton,' and to IS that n.iny hi' eyGeneral." le vessels, but, on, Mr. Drake of the original ecord of their )unalaskii, and e vessels were :ial Company. United States' n made at the Communicated uking steps for scriniinate and educed their lUUI. No. 6«. The Mari/uiii of Salisbury to M. d'Adelborg. THE Marquis of Salisbury has had the honour to receive the copy of a communic^- tion addressed to the Swedish Government by the United States' Minister at Stockholm which Count Adelborg has been good enough to leave at tlie Foreign Offlce. Her Majesty's Government have not received any similar communication from the Government of the United States regarding the protection of the fur-seni fisheries in fiehring's Sea. Lord Salisbury would, however, be glud to know whether the invitation to enter into an arrangement on the subject will be accepted by the Swedish (iovcrnment. Foreign Office, October 11, 1887. No. 67. Foreign Office to Baron Plegaen. SIR J. PAUNCEFOTE has the honour to infr n Baron PIcssen, with reference to ^'% his in(|uiry of the 5th instant, that no proposal has oeen made to Her Majesty's Govern- 3^ ment by the Government of the United States for an International Convention for the V protection of seals in Behring's Sea. The Marquis of Salisbury would be glad to be in rmed of the decision which may be adopted in the matter by the German Govern- ment. Foreign Office, October II, 1887. No. 68. Admiralty to Foreign Office. — {Received October 14.) Sir, Admiralty, October 13, 1887. WITH reference to previous correspondence respecting the seizure of sealing schooneru, I am commanded by my Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty to transmit, for the information of the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, copy of a letter from the Commander-in-chief on the Pacific Station dated the 23rd September, forwarding an extract from the "Victoria Daily Times" of Monday, the 19th September, 1887, contain- ing a demurrer handed in at Sitka by Mr. M. W. T. Drake, Q.C., who was sent to Sitka by the Dominion Government of Canada. I am to request that the newspaper extracts may be forwarded to the Colonial Office for the perusal of oecretary Sir Henry Holland, with a request that they may be returned to the Admiralty when done with. I am, &c. (Signed) EVAN MACGREGOR. Inclosure 1 in No. 68. Rear-Admiral Seymour to Admiralty. Sir, " Triumph," at Esquimalt. September 23, 1887. REFERRING to tho capture of scaling schooners by the American Government, t have the honour to forward a copy of a demurrer handed in at Sitka by Mr. M. W. T. Drake, Q.C., of Victoria, who was sent to Sitka by the Dominion Government of Canada. [12S] . o U YTnw II ' r '■ k. i I I [ h 100 2, It would appear by Lord Salisbury's despatch of the lOth August, 1887, that orders were given for the schooners seized in 1886 to be released, and I am informed a telegram to that effect was received at Sitka ; nothing was done, and the vessels are, as stated in my letter of the 14th instant, high and dry at OunalabUa; and I am credibly informed so wormeaten and damaged as hardly to be worth removal. Certainly no information has ever been received by any authority here, or by the owners of the schooners seized in 188G, that they were to be released. 3. With regard to the vessels seized this year, the crews have been released and one, of the schooners lias been ciiartered by the authorities at Sitka to proceed to Ounalaska and bring the skins taken out of the schooners seized this year and landed at the latter place, to Sitka. The trials will probably take place at Sitka about this time. I have, &c. (Signed) M. CULME SEYMOUR. Inclosure 2 in No G8. Extract from the " Victoria Daily Times" of September 19, 1887. AT present the seizure of the Victoria seal- hunting schooners with their officers, crew, and hunters is the topic of the hour in this city. Mv. Drake's demurrer, the full text of which is herewith given, will be read with especial interest : — "Brief of Mr. M. W. T. Drake, Q.C. " (Filed on behalf of the officers of the British sealers.) " United States' Court, District of Alaska. "The United States, Plaintiff, v. J. D. Warren and J. C. Riley, defendants. " Brief in support of the demurrer filed herein the 30th August, 1887, on behalf of the niiistors and owners ot the British schooners 'Anna Beck,' 'Dolphin,' 'Grace,' and ' W. P. Sayward,' seized l)y the United States' cutter for an alleged infraction of an Act of the United States' Congress No. 120, being an Act to prevent the extermination of fur- bearing aniuiids in Alaska. The Act is directly against killing seals in the waters adjacent to the islands of St. Paul and St. George and docs not refer to any other waters in Belirinir's Sea, but on refening to section \9f>ii of the Revised Statutes, the language used is soiuewliat didmnt, proliibitiuij; the killing of fur-bearing animals within the limits of Alaska Territory oi- the watcis thereof. The first question then to be decided is what is meant by ' tlie waters tlicreof.' If the defendants are bound by the Treaty between the United States and Russia ceding Alaska to the United States, then it appears that Russia in 1822 claimed absolute territorial sovereiunty over tlic Bchring's Sea and purported to convey practically one half of that sea to the United States, but are the defendants as men belonging to a country on friendly terms with the United States bound by this assertion of Russia ? And can the Uniteil States claim that the Treaty conveys to them any greater right than Russia herself possessed in these waters ? In other words, the mere assertion of a right contrary to the comity of nations can confer on the grantees no rights in excess of those recogni'/.ed by the law of nations. " Riijhls of Great Britain and the United Stales. " In in(|uirin.; what th -t ri'dit was anil how far it was submitted to bv the other Powers interested, namely, Great Bs id the United States, we find the United States' Minister ill St. Petersburgh in lSi'2 eonni,. anig the pretensions of Russia to a jurisdiction over the waters of Ik-hring's Sea fur a distance of 100 miles from the coast 'for this was the extent of Russia's claim in 1S22) in the following expressive language: 'The existence of terri- torial rights to the distance of 100 miles from the coast and the prohibition of approaching to the same distance Irom those coasts and from those of all intervening islands are innovations on ihc law of nations and measures unexampled.' We thus find that the assumption of a limited sovereignty over the waters of Alaska was challenged by the United States, and in consequence 'was not pcreisted in, and on the 17th April, 1824, a Convention was concluded between the United States and Russia, whereby it was agreed, ' that in any part of the great ocean commonlv called the Pacific Ocean or South Sea, the respective citizens, subjects of the High Contracting Powers, should be neither disturbed 101 it, 1887, that itn informed a vessels are, as am credibly Certainly no iwners of the ;asc(l and one, to Ounalaska d at the latter EYMOUR. their officers, urrtr, the full dants. , on behalf of ' Grace,' and of an Act of nation of fur- [iters adjacent icr waters in anguage used the limits of led is what is between the s that Russia purported to dants as men s assertion of n any greater e assertion of s in excess of other Powers ites' Minister ;tion over the as tiie extent ;nce of terri- approaching ; islands are [ind that the nged by the Lpril, 1824, a t was agreed, luth Sea, the ler disturbed or restrained either in navigation or in fishing or in the power of resorting to the coasts upon points which .night not then have been already occupied for the purpose of trading with the natives, saving always the restrictions and conditions contained in certain Articles attached to the Treaty referring to illicit trade with the Indians.' " A Treaty with Russia. " The Government of Great Britain, on the 28th February, 1826, also entered into a Treaty with Russia in consequence of tiie same extravagant pretensions of Russia, which Treaty contains the following provisions : * It is agreed that tiie respective subjects of the High Contracting Parties sliall not be troubled or molested in any part of the ocean commonly called the Pacific Ocean, either " \ navigating the same, in fishing therein, or in laiuliiig at 3uch parts of the coast as shall not have been already occupied in order to trade with the natives under f !io restrictions and conditions specified in the then following Articles.' These restrictions are not dissimlar from those attached to the Treaty with the United Mates. In order to ascertain what were the pretensions of Russia which led to these Treaties it is necessary to refer to the Edict of the Autocrat of all the Russias. By Section 1 it is enacted : ' That the pursuits of commerce, whaling, and fishing, and all other industries on all islands, ports, and gulfs, including the whole of the north-west coast of America, beginning from Behring's Straits to 51° of north latitude, also from the Aleutian Islands to the eastern coast of Siberia, as well as along the Kurile Islands from. Behring's Straits to the south Cape of the Island of Uruck, namely, 4;'/ 50' northern latitude is exclusively granted to Russian subjects.' "Russias Claims. " Section 2. — ' It is therefore prohibited to all foreign vessels not only to land on the coasts and islands belonging to Russia, but also to approach them within less than 100 Italian miles. The trangressor's vessel is subject to confiscation along with the whole cargo.' Thus it appears that Russia claimed 100 miles from the coast of all the islands as wcil as the mainland of Behring's Sea and south to 45° 50'. It was this claim that led to the indignant venionstrance of the United States and Great Britain, and to the Treaties before referred to, and shows that Behring's Sea was included in the term Pacific Ocean. The pretensions of Russia were nerer revived, and the citizens of Great Britain as well as the United States had free access at all times to these waters in navigating and fishing without any restriction. And Russia's claim was never revived until she purported to cede to the United States a portion of Behring's Sea. Russia could not sell what she did not own, and the United States could not claim thpt which it was not in the power r,f Russia to sell. The Treaty with England has never been abrogated, and was in force when thr; cessi'/n to the United States took place, and there was no need to protest against the extravagant pretensions of Russia in purporting to dispose of the high seas, as until last year no attempt had been made to enforce such a claim. " Authorities quoted. " The United States have always been the strongest upholders of the law of nations, d on this head Kent's Commentaries, p. 28 : 'The open sea is not capable of being possessed as private property ; the free use of the ocean for navigation and fishing is common to all mankind, and the public jurists generally and explicitly deny that the main ocean can ever be appropriated.' He also refers to the claim of Russia, and in another pla-;e he states that the ' United States have recognized the limitation of a marine league for general territorial jurisdiction by authorizing the District Courts to take cognizance' of all captures made within a marine league of the American shore.' (See Act of Congress June 5, 179-J.) * " And in Wharton's ' International Law Digest,' p. 32, the author says, ' The limit of 1 sea league from shore is provisionally adopted as that of the territorial sea of the United States,' and ' our jurisdiction has been fixed to extend 3 geograpliical miles from our shores, with the exception of any waters or bays which are so landlocked as to be unquestionably within the jurisdiction of the United States, be their extent what they, may.' Behring's Sea is not a gulf or a bay, and is not landlocked by the lands of the United States. " becretary Seward's Views. " Wharton again states that ' a vessel on the high seas beyond the distance of a marine league from the shore is regarded as part of the territory of the nation to which she belongs;' and Mr. Seward, in a letter to Mr. Tassara, 16th December, 1862, tersely an ni ! '' ! ' 'i 102 states the principle as follows : ' There are two principles bearing on the subject which are universally admitted : ( 1 ) that the sea is open to all nations ; and (2) that there is a portion of the ",ea adjacent to every nation over which the sovereignty of that nation extends, to the exclusion of every other political authority, A third principle bearing on the subject is that the exclusive sovereignty of a nation abridging the universal liberty of the seas extends no further than the power of the nation to maintain it by force stationed on the coast extends.' •' ' TerrsB dominium • vis.' (The sovereignty of the coast ends where the power to control it by force of arms terminates.) It thus appears that by the comity of nations, sanctioned and approved by American jurists, that the high seas are open to all ; that the territorial authority only extends to a marine league, or, at all events, not further than a force on shore can protect the coasts. " Sovereignty claimed by the United States. " It also appears that the United States, in claiming sovereignty over the Behring's Sea, is claiming something beyond the well recognized law of nations, and bases her claim upon the pretensions of Russia, which was successfully repudiated by both Great Britain and the United States. A Treaty is valid and binding between the parties to it, but it cannot affect others who are not parties to it. It is an agreement between nations, and would be construed by law as an agreement between individuals. Great Britain was no party to it, and therefore was not bound by its terms. " It is therefore contended that the proceedings taken against the present defendants are ultra vire." and without jurisdiction. Uut in order to press the matter further, it may be necessary to discuss the act itself under which the alleged jurisdiction is assumed. The Act must be construed by what appears within its four corners, and not by any extrinsic document. It is an Act defining a criminal ofience, and an Act which abridges the privileges and immunities of citizens must be most strictly construed, and nothing but the clearest expression can or ought to be construed against the interest uf the public in applying this principle to the present case. The terms used in the Act itself are, ' The waters adjacent to the Islands of St. George and St. Paul.' ' Adjacent,' iu Wharton, p. 846, is held to be adjacent to the coast, and within the territorial jurisdiction of the country. This language, then, does not apply to these defendants, who were 50 miles from the nearest coast. In section 1956 the language is, ' the waters of Alaska.' This must also be construed by the universal law as applving to the territorial limit only. And in a letter fronr. Mr. Evarts to Mr. Foster, in A .il 1879, referring to a case in which certain American merchant-vessels were seized by the Mexican authorities for an alleged breach of the Revenue Laws, although distant more than 3 miles from shore, it was held to be an international offence, and was not cured by a Decree in favour of the assailants by the Mexican Court. " So here it is submitted that a Decree of your Honour's Court will not give any validity to the seizures here made, and the defendants, in tiling their demurrer and submitting this argument, do not thereby waive their rights or submit to the jurisdiction of the Court." No. G9. Sir L. West to the Marqvia of Salisbury. — (SulMancr telegraphed, October 14.) My Lord, Washington, October 11, 1887. WI7'H reference to the note from thr^ Secretary of State, copy of which was inclosed in my despatch of th.c 12th instant,* I have the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith copy of a further reply to my note of the 28th ultimo, expressing regret that misconception of the intentions and orders of the President for the release of the scalers "Onward," "Carolina," and "Thornton" should have delayed their prompt execution, and stating that renewed orders have been forwarded. I have communicated copy of this note to the Marquis of Lansdowne, the sub- stance of which I telegraphed to your Lordship this day. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SAOKVILLE WEST. • Ste No. 73. t ..« . Vit't i-Ai. f*' ;ct which are that there is if that nation le bearing on rsal liberty of irce stationed •eignty of the thus appears that the high league, or, at the Behring's ises her claim Great Britain [es to it, but 1 nations, and iritain was no it defendants irther, it may sumed. The any extrinsic abridges the thing but the the public in elf are, ' The iu Wharton, liction of the ere 60 miles aska.' This t only. And ise iu which )r an alleged t was held to assailants by not give any umurrer and urisdiction of er 14.) 14, 18b7. which was ose to your expressing • the release elayed their ne, the suh- 3 WEST. .=4;;^ 103 '"■ " ' ' ■ ' '' Inclosure in No. 69. • . ,• • Mr. Bayard to Sir L. West. Sir, Department of Stale, Washington, October 13, 1887. CONTINUING my reply to your note of the 2yth ultimo, inquiring the reason for the delay in complying with the order issued iu .Tanuury last for the roloase of British vessels seized last year in Behring's Sea, I beg loavc to mform you that I have this (lay received a communication from my colleague the Attorney-General, informing me that his telegram to the United States' Marshal at Sitka of the 26th January last, ordering the release of the British schooners "Onward," " Carolina," and " Thornton," owing to some misconception and mistake on the part of the official to whom it had heou addressed had not been acted upon. A renewed order has gone forward for their release, as had been distinctly directed last January, and wliich I had no reason to doubt had been promptly obeyed. In my note to you of the 11th instan^ I stated it to be my impression that no hindrance to their repossession by the owners of the vessels named existed. This impression, it now appears, was not well founded, and as my object is to give you the fullest information within my power in relation to 'ill transactions touched in our correspondence, I hasten to communicate the latest report made to rae fror. the Department of Justice. I take leave also to express my regret that any misconception of the intentions and orders of the 1 resident should have delayed their promjjt execution. I have, &c. cSigned) T. E. BAYARD. it. No. 70. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received October 1 8.) Sir, Downing Street, October 17, 18S7. I AM directed by Secretary Sir H. Ifollaud to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, copy of a despatch from tlu^ (jovcrnor-Gonoral of Canada, dated the 2(Jth September, witli its inelosures, reapoeting the scizun? iu Behring's Sea of the British scliooner " Alfred Adams." These papers appear to Sir II. Holland to point (n a serious state of things, which seom to make it necessary that some decided action in the matter should be taki>n by Her Majcstv's Government. And lie would suggest, I'or the consideration of Lord Salisbury, wiiether it would nor l)e dcsirabh; to instruct Sir Ji. West, unless !u' has already done so, I'onnally to ])rotest against tlie rii^'lit assumed by tlie United Stiites of seizing vessels for cateliing seals lieyoud the territorial waters oi' Alaska. I am to add Sir 11. iiolland makes this suggestion, as .Mr. Bayard is re))orted in the newspapers to have stated that no ])r()l('st against their right to seize had I)een made, and to have assumed, theivfore, that iler Majesty's Government did not really dispute it. I am, &c. (Signe<l) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inch)surc 1 in No. 70. The Mnrfjuis of Lnmdowne to Sir H. Holland. Sir, • Citadel, Quebec. September 26. 1887. IN i-outinuatiou of my despatch of the 27th August ami iu r.^fereuce to previous correspondence, I have the honour to inclose herewith a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council of Canada, covering copies of a Report of mv ]\liuist<'r of Marine and Fisheries relating to the seizure; and detention ol tiie Canadian s(>aling schooner "Alfred Adams," and of other Canadian sealing vessels bv the United States' authorities in the Behring's Sea. 2. The letter directed to the United States' District Attoruev at Sitka, marked D in the Minister's Report, which came into the possession of mv Gov<>ruineut 111. der the circumstances described iu the Declaration of Captain Dyer, of the " Alfred Adams." m 11 i fi i^ ; . h 1 ii: i 104 lias been forwarded, toi^ether with copies of the pipers, to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington. 3. The circumstances under which the "Adams" was seized do not differ materially from those attending previous? seizures in the same waters. I have already laid before you the reasons which iiave led my Government to protest against the assumption that the Statutes under which other seizures, and I presume this also, have been made, Statutes governing the conduct of persons fishing within " the territory of Alaska " or " in the waters thereof " {vide United States' Revised Statutes, 1955, 1956), are applicable to the whole of the Avaters of the Behring's Sea, and in cases where, as in those under discussion, the vessels seized were found fishing at a great distance from the nearest land. 4. I trust that the earnest attention of Ilcr Majesty's Government Avill he given to the statements contained in the Minister's Report. No satisfactory explauatiou has yet been given of the action of the United States' 'jrovernment subsequent to Mr. Bayard's announcement of the 3rd Pebruary of the present year, when it was stated by him to Her Majesty's IMinister at Washington that " orders had been issued by the President's direction for the discontinuance of all pending proceedings, the discharge of the vessels referred to, and the release of all persons under arrest in con- nection therewith." 5. You wiU observe from Mr. Foster's recapitulation of the evidence which lie has been able to collect, and the documents attached to his Report, that an impression prevails upon the spot to the effect that orders such as those described by Sir Lionel West were actually issued from Washington. There appears at all events to be some reason for believing that a telegram authorizing the release of the vessels then under detention was in fact received by the District Judge, and tliat instructions were there- upon issued by him for the purpose of carrying out these orders. The circumstances urder which those instructions are said to have been subsequently rescinded by the District Judge have not unnaturally given rise to the gravest suspicion. 6. The Slinister has called attention with great force in his Report to the injury sustained by persons engaged in the sealing industry from tlio suspense and ■uncertainty in which they have been kept during the past season owing to the refusal of the United States' Government to give any explicit assurances as to the treatment which they might expect at its hands. I have, &c. (Signed) LANSDOWNE. Inclosure 2 in No. 70. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council for Canada, approved by hin Excellency the Governor-General in Council on the 2lst September, 1887. THE Committee of the Privy Council have had under consideration the annexed Report of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries with reforonoe to the seizure and detention of Canadian sealing-vessels bv the United States' authorities in Behring's Sea. The Committee concur in the said Report, and tlioy advise that your Excellency be niovod to transmit a copy of this Minute and the annexed papers to the Right Uon()nral)lc the Secretary of State for the Colonies. ,\.ll which is submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Priiy Council, Canada. ■ :if! Mi I , ;, v,,,<)H. Inclosure 3 in No. 70. Report of the Minister of Marine and Fisherie». AVITII reference to previous correspondence concerning the seizure and detention of Canadian sealing-vessels by the United States' authorities in Behring's Sea, the Minister of Marine and Fislicries hogs to sul)n;it, for the consideration of his Exeelleney the Governor-General in Conncil, the following p'ipers: — 's Minister at do not differ I have already it against the this also, have " the territory statutes, 1955, , and in cases ng at a groat Avill be given y cxplauatiou subsequent to ', when it was id been issued oceedings, the arrest in con- nce which he an impression by Sir Lionel its to be some sis then under us were there- circumstances icinded by the to the injury suspense and to the refusal the treatment SDOWNE. proved by AjV 1887. the annexed seizure and in Uehring's ir ExccUcncv to the llislit ril, Canada. lud detention ng's Sea, tlic lisEseelleiiev 106 (a.) A letter from Collector flamley, of Victoria, British Columbia, dated, the 1st September, 1887, inclosing certain papers in reference to the seizure of the Canadian sealing-scliooner " Alfred Adams " in Behring's Sea. (6.) Tlie Declaration of William Henry Dyer, of Victoria, British Columbia, master of the Canadian schooner "Alfred Adams." (c.) A certificate of seizures of the " Alfred Adams," signed by L. G. Shepard, captain of the United States' Revenue steamer " Rush." (d.) A sealed and unopened letter directed to the United States' District Attorney and United States' Marshal, Sitka, Alaska. (e ) A letter from Collector Hamley, of Victoria, British Columbia, dated the 26th July, relating to the detention of the Canadian schooners " Onward," " Carolina," and " Thornton," seized in August 1886, by the United States' cutter " Corwin," in Behring's Sea. (/.) Copy of a telegram and order purporting to be from the United States' Attorney-General and Judge Dawson respectively, relating to the release of the above- named vessels ; and ((/.) A letter dated the 3rd September, 1887, from the law firm of Drake, Jackson, and Helmcken, of Victoria, containing additional information relating to the same. Erom the above-mentioned papers, it appears that on the 6th August, 1887, the Canadian schooner "Alfred Adams," wliilst engaged in catching seals in the open sea, more than 50 miles distant from the nearest land, was forcibly seized by an armed vessel of the United States, her ship's papers taken, her cargo of seal-skins, 1,386 in number, together with all her arms, ammunition, and fishing implements transferred to the United States' cutter, and her captain ordered to proceed with sealed ordei-s to Sitka, and to deliver himself, his vessel, and men into the hands of the United States' Marshal at that place. This treatment of the "Alfred Adams" whilst peaceably pursuing her lawful calling on the high seas is but a repetition of the unjustifiable seizures of Canadian vessels made by tlic United States' authorities in Behring's Sea, and which have been dealt with at length in previous Reports to Council. The Minister, therefore, does not consider it necessary in this instance to traverse the ground already so fully covered, and recommends that a copy of this Report with the papers attached be forwarded to Uer Majesty's Government for their earnest and immediate consideration, and that a copy thereof be sent to the British Minister at Washington, together with the sealed letter given by Captain Shepard to tht; master of the "Adams," with the request that it be forwarded to Mr. Secretary Bayard. With reference to the attached papers (e), (/), an' (</), the Minister observes that from the first (e) it appears that inquiries made by the Collector of Customs at Victoria, British Columbia, in July last, resulted in his obtaining the information that Judge Dawson had up to that date rf'ceived no orders for the release of the Canadian scaling-vessels seized in 1886, that the vessels had not been sold, and remained still under seizure, and that Judge Dawson, when questioned as to the report that a telegram had been sent to him by the Attorney-General of the United States, ordering the release of the vessels, had replied that he liad heard of this report before, but that nothing of the kind had reached either himself or the United States' Marshal at Sitka. Tlie paper mai'kcd (/) purports to be a copy of a telegram, dated the 26tli Januaiy, 1887, from the United States' Attorney- General Garland to Judge Dawson, ordering him to release the vessels seized in August preceding, and of an order founded thereon from Judge Dawson to tlie United States' Marshal at Sitka, bearing date the lS)th February, 1887, directing him to "release the 'Carolina,' ' Onward,' ' Tliornton,' and ' San Diego,' together with all their tackle, apparel, skins, guns, animimition, small boats, and everything pertaining to said vessels." The third paper, marked (jr), is a copy of a letter from the hiw firm of Drake, Jackson, and Helmcken, of Victoria, British Columbia, to the Minister of Justice, informing him that they are advised that a telegram was received by Judge Dawson from the United States' Attorney-General, ordering the release of the vessels above referred to ; that Judge Dawson did issue an order accordingly, but that he afterwards rescinded the order on tlie assumption that the telegram was a forgery, and that since " no official letters of any sort, either confirming the telegram or respecting the affair, has been received at Sitka." The Minister observes that, if the information conveyed in the above-mentioned [128] P m n li 9 ; : i;.^: papers is correct, of which there appears no reasooable doubt, it reveals a state of affairs by no means satisfactory. On the 3rd February, 1887, Mr. Secretary Bayard informed the British Minister at Washington that " orders have been issued by the President's direction for tlic discontinuance of ail ponding proceedings, the discharge of the vessels referred to, and the release of all persons under arrest in connection therewith." A telegram in accordance with Jlr. Bayard's communication appears to have been sent to Alaska, and an order kised thereon to have been issued by the District Judge, but to have been afterwards rescinded, and no further action has been taken up to date of latest information. Meanwhile, the vessels remain under st>izurc, the seal-skins are forfeited, and the property of Canadian citizens forcibly withheld from them under circumstances whicli involve very great loss and damage. The Minister further observes that, with a view of guiding the action of Canadiaix citizens interested in sealing in the northern seas, repeated attempts were made previous to the commencement of the present season to obtain an oflGicial expression from the United States' Government of the policy they proposed to pursue in their treatment of foreign vessels sealing in Behring's Sea, but that these efforts proved altogether unavailing. From Mr. Bayard's communication of the 3rd February, 1887, above referred to, the fair inference, however, was to be drawn that, until the question in dispute between the two Governments as to the legality of the previous seizures had been finally disposed of, no further seizures would be made ; and thei-e is no doubt that on the strength of this communication, and in the absence of any explicit statement of policy to the contrary, Canadian citizens did, in the beginning of the present season, embark upon their customary sealing expeditions to Behring's Sea, under the reasonable impresson that they would not be interfered witli by the United States' authorities so long as they conducted their operations in the open sea, only, however, to find their vessels seized, their property confiscated, and their ventures completely ruined. It is respectfully submitted that this condition of affairs is in the highest degree detrimental to the interests of Canada, and should not be permitted to continue. For nearly two years Canadian vessels have been exposed to arbitrary seizure and confisca- tion in the pursuit of a lawful occupation upon the high seas, and Canadian citizens subjected to imprisonment and serious financial loss; while an important and remunerative Canadian industry has been threatened with absolute ruin. This course ot action has been pursued by tlic United States' officers in opposition to the contention in the past of their Government in regard to the waters in which these seizures have taken place, in violation of the plainest dictates of international law, and in the face of repeated and vigorous protests of both the Canadian and Biitish Governments. The ^linistcr advises that Her Majesty's Government be again asked to give its serious and immediate attention to the repeated remonstrances of the Canadian Government against the unwarrantable action of the United States in respect to Canadian vessels in Behring's Sea, with a view to obtain a speedy recognition of its just rights, and full reparation for the losses sustained by its citizens. The whole respectfully submitted. (Signed) GEORGE E. FOSTER, Minister of Marine and Fisheries. Department nf Fisheries, Ottawa, September 16, 1887. ^ i| Inclosure 4 in No. 70. Mr. Hamley to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries. Dear Sir, Custom-house, Victoria, British Columbia, July 26, 1887. CAPTAIN CARROLL, master of the American steamer " Olympian," has been taking parties of excursionists to Sitka, and I asked bira to see the Judge, Mr. Dawson, and find out something we could trust respecting the seized vessels. Dawson told him he had received no orders whatever for the release of the vessels ; tliey have not been sold, and remain as they were, under seizure. Captain Carroll told Dawson of the telegram dated last January, purporting to have been sent by Mr. Garland, Attorney-General at Washington, in the President's name, ordering the vessels to be released. Dawson said he had heard of it before, and that it must have reveals a state of ) British Minister direction for the Is referred to, anil pears to have been he District Juds;e, a taken up to date forfeited, and the cumstancea which iction of Canadian smpts were nuKh; official cxpres-siou to pursue in their ese efforts proved rd February, 1887, until the question jvious seizures had re is no doubt that plicit statement of ;he present season, i Sea, under the ;he United States' ea, only, however, jntures completely the highest degree to continue. For izure and confisca- [ Canadian citizens m important and liu. This coui-se of I to the contention ;hese seizures have w, and in the face Governments, n asked to give its of the Canadian ates in respect to recognition of its TER, Ine and Fisheries. a, July 26, 1887. rmpian," has been see the Judge, the seized vessels, se of the vessels; Captain Carroll lave been sent by lame, ordering the hat it must have 107 been as he termed it, a " put up thing," as nothing of the kind had reached either himself or the United States' Marshal at Sitka. The serious part is that our people, trusting to the story of ihe order for release, have sent thirtiHjn vessels again this year to the sealing grounds. One has been seized already, and if the others fall in the way of the Revenue cutters they will probably be seized also. I may perhaps learn something more from the Admiral when he returns from Alaska, and, if so, I will write to you again. Yours, &c. (Signed) W. HAMLEY. ' Inciosure 5 in No. 70. The Attorney-General, Washington, to Judge Lafayette Datvson and M. D. Ball. (Telegraphic.) Washington, District of Columbia, January 26, 1887. 1 AM directed by the President to instruct you to discontinue any further pro- ceedincs iu the matter of the seizure of the British vessels "Carolina," "Onward," and "Thornton," and discharge all vessels now held under such seizure, ana release all persons that may be under arrest in connection therewith. Inciosure 6 in No. 70. Mr. Dawson to Mr. Atkins. To Barton Atkins, United States' Marshal for the District of Alaska, YOU are hereby directed to release the vessels "Carolina," "Onward," S "Thornton," and "San Diego," which were seized in Behring's Sea for violation of % section 1956, United States' Statutes, togetlier with their tackle, apparel, skins,* guns, animuuitiou, small boats, and everything pertaining to said vessels, this 19th day of February, 1887. (Signed) LAFAYETTE DAWSON, District Judge, District of Alaska. Inciosure 7 in No. 70. Mr. Hamley to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries. Sir, Custom-house, Victoria, September 1, 1887. ON the 7th August the master of the United States' Revenue cutter " Rush " seized in Behring's Sea, 60 miles from any land, the Canadian schooner "Alfred Adams," her register, clearance, guns, and ammunition, and the seal-skins she had taken (1,386) were all taken from her, aud the vessel herself ordered to Sitka. No one from the Revenue cutter was put on board by Captain Shepard, and the master of the "Alfred Adams," instead of going, as he was desired, to Sitka, returned to Victoria, arriving here tlie 31st August. I I'orM'ard the master's depositions before a notary public, aud what Captain Shepard is pleased to term a certificate of the schooner's seizure, signed by himself. Mr. Drake, a solicitor, is at Sitka, waiting for the cases to be heard in Court. The trial was delayed for the arrival of the " Rush," and she was expected about the beginning of this month. Mr. Drake will no doubt report direct to the Minister of Justice. I have, &c. (Signed) W. HAMLEY. P.S. — I inclose also a sealed letter addressed by Captain Shepard to the District Attorney and United States' Marshal at Sitka, M'hich the master of the "Allied Adams" brought down with him, and which you can deal with in any way you think fit. '"'' -' '' W. H. [12S] * Please note sking. — C. A. M. P 2 tefr ' is* Inclosuro P in No. 70. Captain Shepard to the District Attomry and United Staten' Marshal al Sitka. To whom it may concern, THIS will certify that United Stales' Revenue steamer " Rush," Behring's Sea, August 0, 1887. have this day seized the British schooner "Alfred Adams," of Victoria. British Columhiu, Captain W. II. Dyer, master, for violation of law, and have taken cliargo of his ship's papers, viz., rosfster, shipping articles, clearance, hill of health, and log hook ; also her arms and seal-skins. Very respectfully, (Signed) L. G. SHEPARD, Captain, United States' Revenue Marine. Inclosure 9 in No. 70. Declaration. In the Matter of the seizure of the Scaling-schooner " Alfred Adams "■ by the United States' Revenue cutter " Richard Rush." ! i I, WILLIAM HENRY DYER, of Victoria, British Columlna, master mariner, do solemnly and sincerely declare that — 1. I am the master of the schooner "Alfred Adams," of the port of Victoria, British Columbia, engaged in the business of catching seals. On the 6th August, 1887, Avhile on board the said schooner, and in command of the same, being in latitude 51° 48' north and longitude 107° 49' west the United States' Revenue cutt(>r " Richard Rush " steamed alongside, lowered a boat commanded by the First Lieutenant and boat's crew. The said Lieutenant came on board the said "'Alfred Adams " and ordered me to take tlie ship's rt^gister, log-book, articler, and all others of the ship's papiu's on board the " Richard Rush." In obedience to his command, I took all said papers and accompanied tlie said Lieutenant on board the " Richard Rush." When I arrived on board the " Rush," the Captain of the "' Rush " asked me what was ray business in the Behring's Sea; I replied taking seals. He inquired how- many skins I had ; I replied 1,380. He then said he would seize the ship, take the skins, arms, ammunition, and sjjears. I stated I did not think the ship was liable to seizure, as we had never taken a seal witliin 00 miles of Ounalaska, nor nearer St. Paul's than 00 miles south of it, atul that we had never been notified that tlie waters were prohibited, unless landing and taking them from the Island of St. Paul's. He stated he must obey the orders of his Government, and that our Government and his must settle the matter, and ordered me to proceed on board the said schooner and deliver up my arms, ammunition, and skins and spears. lie sent two ])oats belonginir to the "Rush" in charge of the First and Second Lieutenant of the "Rush" respectively, and manned with sailors from the " Rush," who came on board the said schooner (I returning in company with the First Lieutenant). They took from the said schooner 1,380 skins, 4 kegs powder (3 triple F and 1 blasting powder), 500 shells, 3 cases caps and primers, 9 breach -loading double-barrelled shot-guns, 1 Winchester rifle, all in good order, and 12 Indian spears, and he then gave mo a scaled letter addressed to the United States' Marshal and United States' District Attorney at Sitka; he also gave me an acknowledgment of the goods taken, and also gave rac a certificate that the said schooner was under seizure, and, after being alongside for about 3^ hours, I received orders in writing to proceed to Sitka, and report to the United States' District Attorney and Marshal : we then parted company. My crew consisted of myself, mate, 2 seamen, 1 Chinese cook, and 21 Indians. Previous to the said seizure we had spoken the schooner " Kate," of Victoria, and had been informed l)y the mate of that vessel that the crews (and particularly the Indians) taken to Sitka on schooners previously seized had been very badly treated. The Indians became very mutinous on learning that we were to proceed to Sitka and report to the United States' authorities ; they declared they would not go to Sitka and, to avoid trouble, I came to Victoria, instead of going to Sitka. I arrived in Victoria on the Slst August, 1887, at about 7 p.m. 109 ai Sitka. ^ehring's Sea, Doner "Alfred or violation of pping articles, And I make this solemn Declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the Oaths Ordinance, 18GU. ' (Signed) W. H. DYER. Declared before me this Ist day of September, a.d. 1887, at Victoria, British. Columbia. (Signed) H. Dallas Hklmcken. A Notary Pul)liein (I il for the Province of British Columbia. (L.S.) venue Marine. Inclosure 10 in No. 70. Messrs. Drake, Jnckson, and Helmcken to the Minister of Justice, Ottawa. by the United naster mariner, ort of Victoria, lie Gth August, same, being in Revenue cutter by the First he said '' Alfred ind all others of his eommaiul, I the " Richard lush " asked me [e inquired how c ship, take tiie ip was liable to ika, nor nearer lotified that tlie ul of St. Paul's. irov(!rnment and id schooner and Iwats belongiuK the " Rusli " II hoard the said jk from tlie said der), 500 shells, 1 Winchester a sealed letter torney at Sitka ; mc a eertificiite iside for about to the United y crew consisted ious to the said 'en informed liy iken to Sitka on lis became very to the United avoid trouble, I he Slst August, [gjr^ Virlaiia, British Columbia, September 3, 1887. WE have the honour to inform you that we are in receipt of a letter from our [Mr. Drake, written from Sitka, under date the 28th August, in which he states that a [telegram was received at Sitka relative to the schooners seized last year from the United States' Attorney-General Garland, directing their release and discharge of the "^men. The Judge gave an Order accordingly, which was afterwards rescinded, on the; :a8sumption that the telegram was a forgery. No official letter of any sort, either confirming the telegram or respecting the affair, has been received at Sitka. Tlu! -schooners now seized and at Sitka are the "Anna Reck," "W. V. Sayward," ^" Dolphin," and " Grace." The " Alfred Adams " was also seized. The trial of the 'present men, Mr. Drake states, would not take place until after the arrival of Mie Kevenue cutter " Rush ;" also that, judging from the past and the views held by the Court, the result would most probably bo the same, and urges that; immediate steps jhould be taken to prevent the imprisonment of the masters, and ihat he would obtain 'declarations from the masters duly certified, and enter a protest at the trial. >f The " Rush " was not expected at Sitka until yesterday. 'M' Regarding the seizure of th(! " Alfred Adams," we have to state that the schooner tas arrived here safely. The declarations of her captain. Captain Dyer, and his rntui ave been duly taken, which her owners, Messrs. Guttman and Frank, of this city, %esterday handed to Honourable Mr. Stanley, Collector of Customs, together vvitii a vfeealed letter, which the commander of the " Rush " handed to Captain Dyer, to be delivered to the District Attorney at Sitka. These papera no doubt Mr. Stjinley has ^already forwarded to the proper Department. We have since forwarded a cony of this information to the Right Honourable Sip John A. Macdonald, K.C.B., &c. "W^c ImvG Slg (Signed) ' DRAKE, JACKSON, anj) HELMCKEN., Inclosure 11 in No. 70. Mr. Burbidge to the Deputy Minister of Fisheries, Ottawa. Sir, Department of Justice, Ottawa, September 12, 1887. I HAVE the honour to inclose, for your information, a copy of a letter which has ibeen received by the Minister of Justice from Messrs. Drake, Jackson, and Helmekcn, [in which they report with reference to the sealing vessels which have been seized in [the Rehring's Sea by the United States' authorities. I am to state that the Minister of Justice has taken no action with respect to this [communication, but that he is of opinion that the Minister of Marine and Fisheries l^hould, at his earliest convenience, take steps to communicate the substance thereof to the Colonial Office and to the British Minister at Washington. I have, &c. (Signed) GEO. W. BURBIDGE, Deputy Minister of Justice. 110 t I No. 71. TTke Marquis of Salitbury to Sir L. West. — {Suhntancp telfgrnphrd.) Sir, Foreiyn Office, October 10, IS87, INFORMATION has reached Her Majesty's (ioveriiment from Ihe Goveriimtiu of Canada that a further seizure has l)een niudo of a Cunndian vessel, the " Alfred AduniD," hy the L'nited States' Revenue-culter " Rush," wiien engaged in seal-tis^hin^ in Hehrin^'s Sea in latitude .54° 48' north, and longitude 167° 49' west, more than 5U luiles distant irum the nearest land. I have to request that you will forthwith address a protest to the Government of the United t^tates against this seizure, and against the continuance of similar proceedingt> on | the high seas hy the authorities of the United States. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. i it No. 72. Forei(jn Office to Colonial Office. Sir. Foreiyn Office, October 20, If-R?. I AM directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to acknowledge the receipt of your leltir of the 17th instant inclosing copies of a correspondence received from the Governor- General of Canada relative to the seizures by tiie authorities of the United States uf certain British vessels when engaged in seal-fishing in Ueliring's Sea. With reference to the latest case re[-()r\d, that of the Canadian schooner "Alfrd Adams," I am to request that you will inform Sir 11. Holland that a telegram has han sent to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington directing liiin to make a protest to the l'nited States Government against the seizure of that vessel, and the continuance on the high seas of similar proceedings l>y tiie authorities of the United States. With regard to the report that it had been stated by Mr. Bayaid that no protest imd been made against the right of those authorities to make the seizures, and that it iiad hciii therefore sissumed that Her Majesty's Govirninent did not really dispute the right, I am to remind you that Sir L. West, acting on the instructions which were given to him bv the late Earl of Iddcsleigh on tiic 20th October, 1886, addressed a note to the United Stulcs' Secretary of State protesting, in the name of Her Majesty's Government, against tlie seizure of the three Columbian schooners "Thornton," "Onward," and "Carohna" hy the United States' Revenue cruizer "Corwin." I am further to point out that the directions given to Sir L. West in regard to subsc- ()uont seizures of other British vessels in Behring's Sea during the present fishing season, which were en>bodied in Lord Salisbury's despatches of the 10th and 2Tth ultimo, amount to a protest against the assumption by the United States' Government of their right to seize British vessels on the high seas in those waters. 1 am to request that in laying this letter belbre Sir H. Holland you will move him to ascertain by telegraph whether the Report of Mr. Foster (the Canadian Minister ot Marine and Fisheries) of the 15th ultimo has been conmmnicated by Lord Lwinsdowiie, witii the papers attached, to Her Majesty's Minister at Wasliington, as suggested in the Report. On learning that this has been done Lord Salisbury proposes to authorize Sir L. West to give a copy of them to Mr, Bayard. I am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 73. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received October 21.) My Lord, Washintiton, October 12, 1887. IN accordance with the instructions contained in your Lordship's telegram of the 27tli ultimo, I addressed a note to the Secretary of State, copy of which 1 Lad the honour to inclose to your Lordship in my despatch of the 28th ultimo, inquiriii!; the reason why the vessels referred to in his note of the 3rd February last had not been released, and I now iuclosu copy of the I'cply which I have received thereto. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. in •npked.) hloher 10, ISfi?. the Uovcriiiiu'iiiof 5 " Alfred Adutns," 11); in HeliriiiK's Sea les distant imm the Government of the ilur proceeding,')! on &c. SALISBURY. >'.lr: IncloRure in No. 73. Mr. Bayard to Sir L. IVeat. October 20, 1887. ccipt of your Icltir om the Governor- e United States of i schooner "Alfred \ telegram has bicn e a protest to the continuance on the I. that no protest Imd iid tliat it had luiii )utc the right, I am n\en to hi:)i bv the f the United Statts' )ment, ugaitibt the nd "Carohna" hy in regard to subsc- sent hshing season, and :^7th ultimo, uvernment of tlnir u will move him to culian Minister of Lord L.insdowne, s suggested in the M es to authorize Sir 'AUNCEFOTE. r2i.) htober 12. 1887. irdship's telegram y of which 1 bad ultimo, inquiring uary last had not ived thereto. iriLLE WEST. gj. Department of Stntf, Washinijtnn, OrloherW, 1887. I HAVE the honour to acknowhnlge your notn of tlie 2Hth ultimo, stating that Irr Majesty's Government had Iweu oHlcially informed that the British vessels referred to in my note to you of the 3rd February Inst liad not \mn\ mloasejl, and Lskini,' the reason for the delay iu complying with tJio orders of the Executive in that egard. Upon receivinjf your note 1 at once wrote my colloague the Attornoy-leneral, ns ho Head of the Department of .Tustiee, in order that I mij,'ht be enabled to reply Btisfaetorily to yotir inquiry. I am still without an answer from him, which, when ccivod, slmll be promptly eonmiunicated to you. In the meantime, in neknowledijins your note, I take occasion to state my nprcssion— that if the three vessels seized, and ordered to be roloas(>d, liavo not lu-en Bpossessed by their owners, it is not beeausu of any hindmnee on i\w \mYi of any Lffieial of this Government, or failure to obey the order for release, but probably lecause of the remoteness of the locality (Sitka) where they were taken after arrest \t adjudication, and the proceedinufs havini,' Iteen in rem, thi^ owners have not seen opor to proceed to Alaska and repossess themselves of the property in question. I have, &c. (Signed) T. F. BAYARl). 4^ No. 74.. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received October 24.) My Lord, Washington, October 12, 1887. i WITH reference to your Lordship's despatch of the Ifith ultimo, respecting tijte judicial proceedings in the eases of the schooners "Carolina," "Onward,"' and flitrhrn-nton," I have the honour to state that, from what I can ascertain, the noti«H5 f appeal in these eases in still lying in the Sitka Court, for there is no Court which under the Act of Con£;rcss the injured parties could appeal, and as in the case the American vessel "San Diego," no further steps can be taken in the mrttcr. „ I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. No. 75. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received October 24.) ly Lord, Washington, October 12, 1887. IN accordance with the instructions contained in your Tjordship's despatch the 27th ultimo, I addressed a note to the Secretary of State, copy of which [ [iv3 the honour to inclose herewith, making similar representations respecting tie seizure of the British vessels " Gkicc," " l)olphin," and " W. P. Sayward," as re made in the cases of the " Onward," " Carolina," and " Thornton," and reserving rights to compensation on behalf of the owners and crew. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. luclosure in No. 75. . Sir L. West to Mr. Bayard. ■ ^ ' Washington, October 12,1887. IN connection with the representation which I was instructed to make to you Bpecting the seizure of the British schooners "Onward," "Carolina,'' and "Thornton," the United States' cruizer *' Corwin," in Bebring's Sea, I have the honour to inform il I I iri' I' 112 you thnt I am now furthor instniotod to mako similar ropresontations in the panes of tlio HritiHh Columbiun vossois "Cjruco," " Dolpliin," uiul " W. 1'. Snyward," wizid lately l»y the United States' llevcnno cutter " lliehard Rusli," and at tlic same time, (is in tliucascof tlic "Onward," "Carohna," and "Thornton," to reserve? all rijjiits to compensation on ))olialf of tlie owners and crews. 1 am also instrueted to point out to you that, according to the deposition of tlic mate of the "W. P Say ward," copy of wliieh is inclosed, no seals had neon taken liy her crew in Hehrini^'s Sea as is allej^ed in tiie lihels of information filed on behalf of the United States' District Attorney in the District Court of Alaska. I am, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. No. 76. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received October 24.) My liord, Washington. October 14, 18S7. I HAVE the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith copy of the re|)ly which I liave received to my note of the 12th instant, copy of which was inclosicd in my despatch of the 12th instant, respecting the seizure of the " Grace," " Dolphin," and " W. P. Say ward." I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure in No. 76. Mr. Bayard to Sir L. West. Sir, Department of State, Washivgton, October 13, 1887. I HAVE the hononr to acknowledge your note of yesterday in relation to tiie eases of the seizure of the British schooners "Unward," "Carolina," and " Thornt(jii," in liehring's Sea, hy United States' llevenue vessels in August 1886, and also your instructions to include hy similar representations the cases of the British Columhian vessels "Grace," "Dolphin," and "W. P. Say ward," seized by the United Statts' Jtevenue authorities in Behring's Sea, with notilieation that ller Britannic Majesty's (jovernment reserve all right to compen.sation on behalf of the owners and crews of the al.ov(vmentioned vessels. The allidavit of the mate of the "W. P. Sayward" has been read, and the facts therein stated will be at once investigated. I have, &c. (Signed) THOMAS F. BATAED. No. 77. Sir L. West to the M'.trquis of Salisbury. — {Received October 24.) My Jjord, Washington, October 14, 1887. I HAA'^E the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith copies of the brief I recently filed in the Court at Sitka by the counsel for the United States' Government wliieh has appeared in the " New York Herald," as well as an article thereupon from that Journal. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. I I Inclosure 1 in No. 77. Extract from the " New York Herald," October 18, 1887. Ottawa, Ontario, October 12, 1887. THE GoTernment here are in receipt of advices from Sitka which contain tlie I brief which is understood to have been prepared at Washington and recently filed in 8 in tlio cnscs of Wayward," nchvi lie same tiiin',ai pvo all rij^liti* to leposition of the (1 licen tiikt'ii l)y ilcd on buhaH'ol LLE WEST. 24.) ober U, 1887. py of tbo reply was inclosed in ce," " Dolphin," LLE WEST. ober 13, 1887. 1 relation to tlie ml " Thornton," , and also your itisk Columbian United States' annic Majesty's ers and eie\\s of d, and the facts BAYAKD. 24.) ohcr 14, 1887. pies of the brief I tes' Government thereupon from LLE WEST. ober 12, 1887. jich contain the j recently filed in 113 the Court at Sitkti by Mr. A. K. Delaney, as counsel for the United Stat-.-s' Oovcrn- mcnt. Tlio following; is a terbatim copy of tbo brief : — < • ■ . ; "Case. "The infonnafion in this case is based on Section 1956 of Chapter 3 of the Tlcvised Statutes of the Tnited States, wliicU provides that ' No person sliall kill any otter, mink, martin, sable or fur seal, or other fur-beariu'j animal within the limits of Alaska Territory or in I lie waters tlu^reof.* "The olTencH! is ebarijed fo have been committed 130 miles north of the Island of Ounalaska, a..(l therefore in th(> main waters of that part of the Hebring's Sea ceded by Russia to th«> lliiittnl States by the Treaty of 1807. The defendants demur to the information on the jjjround— - " 1. That the Court has no jurisdiction over tlie defendants, the alleged offenco having been committed beyond the limit of a marine leagu<! from the shores of Alaska. " 2. That the Act under which the defendants were arrested is imconstitutional in so far as it restricts tin; free navigation of tbo Uebring's Sea lor fishing and sealing 'purposes beyond the limits of a marine league from shore. The issue thus raised by the demurrer presents squarely the (juestions : — " (I.) The jurisdiction of the United States over Behring's Sea. " (2.) The power of Congress to legislate concerning those waters. " The Argument, "The fate of tluj second of these propositions depends largely upon that of the ■ first, for if the i> .isdiction and dominion of the Unitetl States as to those waters be vnot sustained the restrictive Acts of Congress must fall, and if our jurisdiction shall ,be sustained small question can bo made as to the power of Congress to regulate jjfishing and scaling M-itliin our own waters. The grave question, one important to all 'V the nations of the civilized world, as well as to the United States and Great Britain, is • the dominion of Behring's Sea.' " The Thee Mile Limit. " Concerning the doctrine of international law establishing what is known as the marine league belt, which extends the jurisdiction of a nation into adjacent seas for the distance of 1 marine league, or 3 miles from its shores, and following all the indentations and sinuosities of its coast, thoi-e is at this day no room for discussion. It must be accepted as th(> settled law of nations. It is sustained by tbo highest authorities, law-writers, and jurists. It has been sanctioned by the United States since the foundation of the Government. It was affirmed by Mr. Jefferson, Secretary of State, as early as 1793, and has been reaffirmed by his successors — Mr. Pickering, in 179G; Mr. Madison, in 1807; Mr. Webster, in 1842; Mr. Buchanan, in 1849; Mr. Seward, in 18G2, 1 8G3, and 18G4 ; Mr. Fish, in 1875 ; Mr. Evarts, in 1879 and 1881 ; and Mr. Bayard, in 188G. (Whcaton's ' International Law,' vol. i, sec. 32. pp. 100 and 109.) "Sanctioned thus by an unbroken line of precedents covering the first century of our national existence, the United States would not abandon this .loctrine if they could ; they could not if tliey Avoukl. " Landlocked Seas. " Well grounded as is this doctrine of the law of nations, it is no more firmly established as a part of the international code than that other principle which gives to a nation supremacy, jurisdiction, dominion over its own inland waters, gulfs, bays and seas. If a sea is entirely inclosed by the territories of a nation, and has no other communication with the ocean than by a channel, of which that nation niav take possession, it appears tliat such a sea is no less capable of being occupied nnd becoming property than the land, and it ought to follow the fato of the country inat surrounds it. The Mediterranean in former times was absolutely inclosed within the territories of the Romans, and that people, by rendering themselves masters of the strait which joins it to the ocean might subject the Mediterranean to their Empire and assume the dominion over it. They did not by such proceeding injure the rights of other nations, a particular sea being manifestly designed by nature for the use of the i l' 114 i II! Hi I Tin I !m 1 1 I i • coniilnVs nntl imtioiis timl suitohiuI it. (Vattd'n ' l/nv ol Nntions,' pp. 12!) uiid l.'U).) " Cliaiiccllor Kriil, in 1H2(5, hol'orc llic (l(»ctriti< ns to tlic imiriiK^ Icii'^iu" limit was ns llniily cslablislicd ns it now is, siivs : — "'II is (lilVuMiIt t(» (Iniw Miiy prcciNo orMclrrtiiiiKMl (•'Hiciusidii iiiiiid tlic viiiidy ol" (ipiiiioiis as to tlu> distaiKMi a Stai(> may lawl'nlly cxlciid iIh cNclusivc dominion over tli(> seas adjoining its t(M'i'ilorii',s and licyond tlii)S(> portions ol' I lie sea wliicli jin^ <'ml)rn('od by liarlKMirs, ji;nir,s, bays, and est navies, ami ovit wliicli its jnrisdiclidii nnqucstionalily oxtonds.' (I\(>nt, vol. i, p. ^S.) ^' Jurisilir/idii (if Sttttt's, "It lliMs appears that. Mltilc in 1S2(> tlu( limit cd' tlic marine lielt was nnseltleil, tlie jiirisdietion of a State uwv its inland waters was nnipiest.ioned. "'In tl\e laws ol' nations bays are reiiardiMl as a part ol' the leri'itory ol' tin' oonnlry when tbi'ir dimensions .and <'(intii4nr;itions are sneh as to sliow sliat the'iiatinii (tcenpyim; \\w eoast tdso oeenpies the bay as a part of its terril(n'y." (Mannin'^'s • l,inv of Nations.' p. I2(*.) "VAn inland sea or lake beloni;s to tli!' Slate in wbieh il is leri-itorially sitnaleii. As illnslrations. may bo mentinned the inland laK's whose entire body is within the Unilcd States, and the Sea of A/.ol'." (Wheaton's ' Internatimial Law," vol. i, see. .'M.l "'lUvers and inland lalves and s(>;is. when contained in a part ienl;ir State, aiv subj(>et to the Sov(>reiu:n <d' sneh State.' (Idc-m, \ol. iii, see. ,'!(•().) " ' I'ndonbtinlly il is upon this (M'ineiple of int<>rnational law that imr ri^;hl to <lominion over sueli vast inland wati-rs as the fjreat lakes, IJoston llarhonr, lioiii,' Island Sonnd, Del.aware ami (Miesajieake Mays, Albemarle Sonnd. and the May of S;\n I'^raneiseo rests. This eo\intry, in 17!>I5, <'onsidered the whole oi' Didawarc^ May tc? be within onr territm-ial jui-isdietion. and it rested its idaim upon tlies(> authorities, wdueb .adnnt that ljuH's. channels, and arms ol' the sea beloni^ to tlio people within whose land they are ei\eompasscd.' (Kent's Com., vol. i, p. ri2H.) " Tlir Dorlriiic (iliniijs (isfi'rlcd, " It thus jippe.'irs Ih.at our (iovernm(M\t ass(>iled this doctrine in its infancy. II was announced by Mr. .l(<IV(>r,sou as Secretary ol' Stale and by the Attorney-'ieneral in ITO.'l. !Mr. Piekerinii', Secretary ot' Slat(> in IT'.Xi. renlllrms il, in his letter to tlu; Governor of Virijinia, in ili(< followin-:; lan^nat^e : 'Our jurisdiction has been li\ed In «xt(>nd ;} ij'eo<i;ra])hic>il mih^s from our shores, with the excepticm of any watrrs or bays which ar(> so l,\ndlock(>(l as to be nmpiestionably within the jniisdiction of the States, 1)0 their extent what tlicv nuiv.' (Wheaton's ' International Law,' vol. i, see. '\'l, pp. 2-1 0(K) " Mr. 1?nehanan, Sei-retary ol' Stale, to Mr. .Ionian, in isIJi, reiterates this ride in the followinir lansjjn.-ifje : 'The exclusive Jnrisdicticm of a nation extends to tlic ports, harbours, bays, mouths of rivers, and adjacent |)arts of lh<< sea inclosed by hend- lands." ^Idem, ]>. 'lOI.) "^Mv, Seward, in the Senate in r8ri2, substantially enunciates the Ham(Mloctrine In decliirini; that, if we r(>!icd ;ilon(> upon lh<' old rule thai only those bays whoso entraaci' from headland to headland do not exceed (i miles are within the territorial jurisdiction nl' the adjoining )iat ion, our dominion to all the larij;cr and more imp(n'tantr arms of llic sea on both onr Atlantic and I'acilic coasts would have to be surrendered. Our ri;j,iit to jurisdiction over those rests with th(> rul(< of international law which i,'ives a nnlioii jurisdiction over watei's embraced within its land dominion. Hi I' " liehriiKj's Sea [nland IVatar, " It thus ap]»oars that from our earliest history, contemjjoraneously with our acceptance of the principle of the mariim leasiue bolt and su])])(n'ted by the sanu' hifih authorities is the assertion of the docirino of our rifj^ht to dominion ov»m" oiii' inland waters nnd(>r tlio Treaty of ISCiT, and on this rule of intornational law' w(> base our claim to jurisdiction ami dominion over tho waters of IhoUohring's Sea. While il is, no doubt, true that a i. irion cannot by Treaty acquire doir.Inior in contravention of tho law of nations, it is none tho loss true that, whatcnor title or .ominion our g-antor, Russia, possessed under the law of nations at tho time of the Treaty of Cession in 1867, 116 itms,' pp. 121) i(> l('!i'^n(> limit nid tli(< VMi'icty ' iloMiiiiidii liver sen wliicli iiro its jiirisiliclioii pnsHdd ami now riKli<l'iill.v holoiif^.s to the IJnitod H(iitt>H. Iliiviri-,' (b'tciiiiiiuMl tlir law, woavn next Iwl lo iruiuiiv as to wlic-tlicr H(!liriii<p'"H Soa is an ialuml \/:>t,i!r or a p.ul. of tlie onori odcaii, mid what was ISiisNla's jiirisdicitiou nvrv it. " JUdirinij's Hca is an iidaiid wator. l{t!>?i«">i"K <"> *■'"' ••'»><'''i'" <''>asl, of Asia, this l)ndv <il' wulcis rormci'ly known as tin) i^t'ty of Kanichatlui, is hoiindi'd hy tln^ rcniiiiHiila ol" kani(di!ill<a and I'liisli-rn Hihuria to \hr. l5(dirini,''H Strait. Kroi.- tin-. AnnTi(%'iii siihj of this strail liic wad-rs of the l!ciirin<,''s Hca wash th(^ coast of the inu;;;l;,.id of Alaska as liirsDiitli as (ho J'cniiisula of Alaska. l''rom (In; extremity oC this peninsula, in a luii^', swccpini,' curve, the Alculiau lsian<ls stretch in a eoritinuoiis oiiuiu almost lo tho i fihoros ol" Kamchatka, (hus oueasini^^ the sea. was uusetlliMl, BU eri'itory ol' tin' ^^ shat Ihe'iiatinii lanniii'^'s ' l,:n\ iirialiy silujili'ii. '^ Imdy is « it hill fj I 1/iw,' vol. i, ciilar Stale, iwv r/^T at our ri,u;ht !(• Ilarhonr, lioii;; nd thi' Kay ol' )claware Ray to cs(> authorities, ^ people within ts in fancy. It •Mey-(ieneral in is Ictlcr to the i heeil ri\ed lo waters or hays u of t he States, vol. i, sec. !{2, " UiishIu's Title and nnminion. ' ' " II will not he denieil thai al Hie time the United States a(!(|nir(Ml the 'I'cirri- ! lory of Alaska hy tin- Treaty of IH(J7, the watern uf the JJehrini^'s Sea wasinul only the shores ol" liussian territory. ' The territory on the Asiatic; side she had i)ossesscd ' humm [the nieuKtry ol' man runneth not to tlu! <'ontrary.' Her *iti(! to the other portions ot! ithose shores and hi-r dominion over [hv waters of the JJchrin-^'s Sea are hased on 'dis'-overy and settlement.' ; ', i. .; " Ponsension (tjifl Hupremary, . , ,. ' " The ri'.,'ht of a nation to aiiciuirc lunv territory by di.scovery and pfissession has nHsen HO universally recoj^ni/ed hy the law of nations that a citation of authorities Ih Hcarcely necessary.' Upiiii (his su'hject the most einincnit as well as the most eonserva- tivi- ol'" authorities says: 'All mankind have an etpial ri^ht to thin!,'s Hiat have not yci. i'lillen into the poss(,'ssion of any on(>, and those Hiin^'s helonij to tin; j)ers()n who flrsi takes |ii)ssessiou of ihem. When, (hon;l'ore, a 7iation llnds a country uninh.ahited and without an ownei', it may lawfully take possession of it, and after it has •ufllciently made known its will in this respetjt it cannot he deprived of it hy another 'fitttion.' ' "'Thus navif^ators i^oin^' on voyages of discovery, furnished with a commission from their Sovereif^n, meetinj^ islands or othiir lands in a desert state, have taken pos- "'icssion of ther/i in the name of tliciir nation, and this title has heen usually n's|)eeted, provitUid ii. was soon f(dlowed hy a n^al ])ossessi(m.' 'When a nation tak(!s possession of a country to which no ja-ior owner can lay (daim, it is considered as a(!!|uirini; tho empire or sovcreij^tity of it at the same timt! with the domain.' 'The whole spacic f)vcr Iwhieh a nation extends its (.••ovcifiiment heeomes the seat of its jurisdiction and is Balled its territory.' (Vattel, ]). JiH.) "Such being the law, W(! are led to inquire as to on what dificoverics, pt)SsesHions, land occupation Uussia's right to dominion in North Amcjrica is based. -rail's this I'ule extends to till' •loscd hy head- ime doctrine li_v whose cutraiiei' jurisdietion ol' lit arms of ilic I'd. Our right •fives a nalimi iisly with our I by the same iiiuion over oiii' al law we hase Soa. Whih' it Dnti-avontion of on our g-antor, Session m 1867, -'J " Ifisloricdl 8hetrh—n2r>-\m7. " III 1.72.., uiider tho commission of that wondrous cDiabination of iron and [ energy, Peter the rjreat, an expedition was organized, crossed the contincmt from ;8t. r(!tersburgli to Kamchrttka, where a vessid was con,structed, and in duly 1728 I aailod for explorations to t'li; north and east. That vessel was the '(jabriel.' Her I master was Vitus IJeliring, a name destined to historical immortality. On tlie i expedition iJehring crossed the waters of the Sea of Kamcliatka, discovered and I named the Island St. Lawrence, midway betweini which and the Asiatic mainland j our boundary- line is laid down by the Treaty, and after passing through the straits ! which bear his name returned to St. l*(!t<'rsburgli. " In I73;i a second expedition was organized under the auspices of the (iovern- |ment and the commission of Queen Anne, and with Behring, i-aised to the rank of j Admiral, at its bead, repi.uted tin; long and drear journey across Siberia, and in .f unp, 1711 sailed for new discioveries. In .July of that year jJtdiring sighted the American 'continent, some authorities claim at the oHtli degree of north latitude, others at tho ! 50th degree. The latter is pmbably correct, as it rests on the authority of Stellar, who accompanied the expedition, and Behring undoubtedly sailed as far south along ;the American coa,st as the t5th parallel, in accordance with his instructions. But •what is more pertinent to this inquiry, he discovered several of the Aleutian Islands and the Komandcroff group or couplet. On the larger of this coujilot, which bears his name, the hardy navigator. at't<?r Bliinwreck, died on tho lOth December, 1741. [123J (.12 ! '1 1 1l |!s*: '> n I If ill i 1 i 11(V " Rusman Discovery. " But the spirit of Eussian discovery survived liim, and from the startinfy point lie began tradora, hunters, and adventurers made tliou- way from island to island until the whole Aleutian chain, and with it the mainland, was discovered, in 1743, 1745, 1747, and 1749 a Cossack ^ rgeant namcsd Bossof made four consecutive voyages from the mainland of Kamchatka to the Behrinj^ and Copper Islands in vessels of liis own con. struction. In 1715 a sailor named NevidchinoF, wlio had served under Behring, crossed the channel which connects the North Paeltic Ocean with the Bohring's Sea and discovered the Islands of Attoo and Agatoo, the former of whi(rh now marks tlie west(n'n limit of our land dominion. In 1741 a small Russian merchant-vessel reached the Island of Atka and some of the smaller islands surrounding it. " Ten years later Glottoff , in a ship belonging to an Okotsk merchant, advanced as far as the Island of Ounak, and subsequently discovered Ounalaska and the whole of that group of the Aleutian chain known as the fox Islands. lie made a Map of his explorations, which includes eiglit islands east of Ounalaska. In 17(50 a Russian merchant, Adreian Tolstyk, landed on the Island of Adak, exjiloi-ed it and some of the surrounding islands, and made a report of his discoveries to the Russian Crown. This group was named after him, the Adreian Islands. The next year a ship belonging to a Russian merchant named Bcchevin made the coast of the Alirska Peninsula, and in the autumn of 1702 Gh)ttoff, who discovered Ounalaska and the Eox Group, reached the Island of Kodiak. In 17fiS t*vo captains of the Imperial Navy, Krenitzen and Levashoif, sailed from Kamchatha in two Governm(!nt vessels, and the former passed the succeeding Avinter at Kodiak, and the latter at Ounalaska. "Twenty-five years succeeding tho death of Behring the spirit of d.t;/")\ery had planted the Russian ensign along the entire Aleutian chain, from Be,) 'np, V-.nd to the mainland of the North Ajnerican continent. " After the Seah. " Possession and occupation followed the footsteps of discovery, and settlements and trading posts were established at the more favourable points along the line. Expeditions, stimulated by the large remunerations of the fur traffic, were constantly fitted out at the ports along the shores of the Sea of Okotsk and the mouth of the Amoor River for voyages of trade and ex[)loration in the new ciountry. Lieutenant Elliot, in his RejOTrt on the seal islands, published with the Tenth Census of the United States, estimates that no fewer than twenty-five ditVcrent Coni[)anies, with quite a fleet of small vessels, were thus employed as early as 1772. Under the auspices of one of these Companies, ShckelofF, a merchant of Rylsk, founded the first ixu'manent Settlement on the Island of Kodiak in 178 1. From this point exploring cxjjcditions were sent out, one of which crossed the strait between Kodiak and the mainland which bears Shekeloff'i name, and explored the coast of the mainland as far as Cook's Inlet, upon the shores of which in 1780 a Settlement was establislied. "Another pushed along the coast to Prince William Sound and Cape St. Elir the latter of which was located by Behring in 1741. In 1788 another of ShekeV f . shij)s visited Prince William Sound, discovered Yakutat Bay, and made a thorough exploration of Cook's Inlet. In the meantime, in 1780, Gehrman Pribylov, a Muscovite ship's mate, sailed from Ounalaska in a small sloop called the "St. Georgv," dis'-'overed the islands vhieh bear his name, located in the heart of the Behring's Sea, and now far famed as the only seal rookeries in the known world. " Baranoff's Mission " In 1790 the Shf'keloff Company placed at the head of all enterprises in the new country that restless spirit whose energies clinched Russia's dominion to her posses- sions in North America, Alexander Mai-anofT. Arriving at Kodiak, he ehange>' ^hc head-quarters of the Company to ihe harbour of St. Pauf where the village ox m M name now stands, and the next year one of his skippers passe;^ ii:.'nd the exh- • ' of the Alaska Peninsula and along the north-western coaut to ^'lis' . Bay, discovtii .. Kvichak River and the Lake Llamna, and crossed tlu^ portage ..) the mouth of CooK ;. Inlet, thus finding the safest and quickest means of communication I jtween Shckcloll' Strait and the Behring's Sea. " In 1794 Bartxnotf established a ship-yard al Rc: i vi.>,jtic;i I'uv, on Prince William Sound. About this time the first missionaries of the Grte' ' hurch arrived, and 1J7 tarting point lie island until the ?43, 1715, 1747, )yagcs from the of his own con- undor Bcliring, :!liring's Sea and now marks tlie t-vcsscl reached jliant, advanced . and tho whole made a Map of 1700 a Russian it and some of R-ussian Crown, I ship belonging vska Peninsula, Hie Tox Group, ^avy, Ivrenitzoii and the former " d'..sf")\ (>ry I'ad md settlem(>uts along the line, were constantly ic mouth of the ■y. Lieutenant .IS of the United a, with quite a the auspices of first p(n'manoiit ing expeditions L the mainland is far as Cook's Cape St. Eln- r of Shoko'. r. ide a thoroi rli m Pribylov, a " St. Georg'."," ! Behring's Sea, iscs in the new 1 to her pcsscs- 10 changes' Uie ! village the 5t 'r\t cxtro^.'i'. ay, discovti:i„:. louth of CooK j ween Shokcloll' Prince William !h arrived, and Missions were established at Kodiak, Ounalaska, and Spruce Island. The next year Baranoff extended his operations and tradi'ig posts to Yakutat Bay. Following this ■was the consolidation of all Russian interests in North America, giving rise to the Russian-American Company, which Avas chartered tho year that Baranoff founded Sitka, 1709. The possessions and supremacy Russia gair"d under this Corporation have been so universally acknowledged and widely understood as to searctly need comment. Under this Company, chartered by the Crown, patronized by nobility, sustained by the sineiss of consolidated capital, and led by tl;e tireless energy of Baranoff, new explorations and Settlements inevitably followet!. " As early as 1806, aside from trading posts and Settlements along the A leutian Islands, wc find the Russian-American Company had established fourteen fortified stations from Kodiak to the Alexander Archipelago, -now known as Soutli-eastern Alaska — one at Three Saints Harbour, one at St. Paul Island, one on tiic Island of Kodiak, one ofl' Afognak Island, one at the entrance of Cook's Inlet, three on tho coast of the inlet, two on Prince William Sound, one at Cape St. Elias, two on Yakutat Bay, and one at New Archangel, on the Bay of Sitka. "Along Ihe Coast. " After the death of Baranoff, in 1819, his successor in charge of the affairs ot the Company, Lieutenant Yanovsky, made extensive explorations of the coast and mainland above the Alaska Peninsula. One expedition explored and made a preliminary survey of tlib f^oast from Bristol Bay as far as the moutli of the Kuskovim River, discovering and locating that stream and also the Island of Nunivak, on parallel GOth degree, in Behring's Sea. Another passed beyond the mouth of tho Yukon to Norton's Sound, and another entered the Nushegak Piver just above Bristol Bay, pushed into the interior, and crossed the mountains and tundras into the valley of the Kuskovim. Following these, in 1824 and 1826, were the explorations and surveys of Ethloin and Lucdkc, further north on the coast of the mainland. " In 1824 that eminent divine of the Greek Church, Bishop Veniamanolf, visited ;the coast between Bristol Bay and the Kuskovim, establishing Missions, chapels, and churches. Previous to this time, in 1815, Lieutenant Kotzcbue, under the patronage ■ of Count Rumiantzo, had discovered and surveyed Kotzcbue Sound and the Arctic coast of America as far as Cape Lisburne. Lieutenant Tebenkof, of the navy, in 1835 establiEhed Missions and redoubts at St. Michael's, on the Norton Sound, and in 1838 an expedition fitted out by him located Point BarroAv. Mcanwiiile, expeditions had penetrated into the interior. Glazunof ascended the Yukon as far as Nulato and made tho first portage between that river and the Kuskovim in 183t^ while Malakof reached the same point from the redoubt established by Veniamanoff on the Nushegak, by way of that river and the Kuskovim. "They were folbwed by Lieutenant Zagoskin, of the ImTierial Navv, avIio in 1842-43 Avith five assistants made extensive explorations of basins of tiic Yukon and Kuskovim, a voluminous journal of which is noAV in print. " Unbroken Ponsession, "This brings us to the close of the first century of Russian discoveries and occupation in North America. It is needless to follow further, as tiie twentv-five years intervening between 1842 and the date of the Treaty of fi.e United States are but a continuation and repel ii;')n ot Russiin occupation and supremacy of this territory. That possession Avas ne 'cr change i or broken until it passed to tiie United States under tho Treaty of 18G7. The archives of Russia will further show that the Imperial Government it lelf not only fostered those discoveries, but from the earliest period has assorted and exercised dominion over the North American possessions. "'I'Jic discoveries of Behring in 1728-41 Avcre under Roval Commission. In 1766 lolstyk, after his discovery of the Adreian group of the Aleutian chain, was gran+ed special privih>ges in the new possessions by an Edict of Catherine II. The expedition ct Kreutzen. of the Imperial Navy, to Ounimak Island in 1758 was umier commission o. tho same Sovereign. Upon the Report of the Committee of Commerce and the recommendation of the Governor-General of Sii.eria in 1768, Shelikof Avas granted a ci-edit from the Public Treasury of 200,000 roubles to carry forward his entcu prises in JNorth America. By a Ukase of Catherine II in 1793 Missions of 'the Greek Church were established in the new dominion, and a Colony was also founded at Kodiak under Royal Edict. ;'t 1 1 I.I 51 I I- ' i i'^' \i\- nsr ■' " The Russiati'American Company. "The Cliai'tci- of the liussian-Amoricau Company issued iu 1799 declares Russia's dominion iu the following language : ' By tlio riglit of discovery in jmst times by llussian navigators of the nortli-western jjart of America, boghuiing from the 5r)th 'Jcgrce of nin-th latitude and the chain of island sexteiuliug from Kamchatka to Americ;i and [southward to Japan, graciously permit the Company to liavo the usu of all lumtiug grounds and cstnhlishments now existing on the north-western coast of America, Ironi the al)ov(!-mentionod ootli degree to Behring's Strait, and on the same on the Aleutian Jvurile islands situatcnl on tlie north-eastern ocean.' " In conclusion, tlui Charter eujoins : ' All military and civil authorities in tlie ahove-mcntioned localities not ,only not to prevent the Company from en j<jying to tin; fullest (>xient the ])rivileges granted, hut iu case of need to protect them with all theiv power from loss or injury, and render them, npon application of the Com])any, all aid, assistance, avul protection.' '• This assertion of dominion hy Jiussia was reiterated in 1820, when, by an Imperial Ifkase, Alexand(<r I granted tiie second Charter to the liui^sian- American Company, renewing its privileges for twenty years, and was again asserted in 1814 by the granting of the third Charter, which not only increased the privileges of the Company, but also provided a system of colonial government ftn* the Ilussiau- Anierican colonies for tho twenty succeeding years. ' "Russian Ordinmice of \S2l. " All tli> .'vtions ol' Jurisdiction and dominion passed unchallenged, but iu 1821 the lmi)ei' .,to\ eminent had issued an Ordinance regulating traffic in its Asiatic and American possessions, and reserved (ixclusivcly to subjects of the llussian Empire ' the transiiction of commerce, the pursuit (jf whalirg and lishing, or anj' other industry, on the islands in the harbours and iidels, and in general along the north- wiisteru coast of America, from iiehring's Strait to the olst parallel of north latitude and in the Aleutian Islaiuls, and along the coast of Siberia and on the Kurile Islands, from Eehring's Strait to the south-eastern promontory of the Island of Urup — vin., as far south as latitude to" and 50° north.' " This Ordinance called foi'th tho protests of tho United States and Great Britain, and protracted discussions followed. A critical examination of the diplomatic correspondence between the United States and Great Britain on one side and Russia upon the other will disclose that the points in disput(5 in the controversy Avere the assertion of Russia to exclusive jm-isdiction over the Pacific Ocean, the assertion of dominion over the coast of North America from the 55th parallel south to the 51st (See note of 31r. Adams, American Minister to Russia, to the Russian Minister, March 1822.) "Following these discussions came the Treaty of 1821 between Russia and the United States, and the analogous Treaty of 1825 between Russia and Great Britain. By these Treaties, Russia receded from her assertion of exclusive jurisdiction over the Pacific Ocean, and abandoned licr clainr to possessions on the coast of North America, south of 5 1° 10'. " The Treaty. "The following are the Articles of the Treaty between the United States and Russia germane to the questions involved in the case: — "'ARTICLE I. " ' It is agreed that in any part of tho great ocean commonly called the Pacific Ocean, or South Sea, the respective citizens or subjects of the High Contracting Powers shall be neither disturbed nor restrained, either in navigation or in fishing, or in the jjower of I'esorting to the coasts upon points which may not already have been occupied for th(> puri)ose of trading with the natives, saving always the restrictions and conditions d(!termined by the following Articles. '\-' ' "'ARTICLE IL • " 'With a view of preventing the rights of navigation and of fishing exercised upon tho great ocean by the citizens and subjects of tiie High Contracting Powers from becoming the pretext of an illicit trade, it is agreed that the citizens of the 119 ■■:■ '\"/i,' ,■',., eclares Russia's 1 iJast times by from the 55th Kaiuchatka to liavo the use .vesteru coast of ad oil the same thorities in the enj<jying to the n with all theiv impany, all aid, , when, by an bsian- American i-tedin 1811. by 'ivi leges of the ' the llussiau- illengcd, but in ic iu its Asiatic {.iissiaii Empire other industry, li-westeiai coast :ude and in tlie ) Islands, from up — viz., as far Great Britain, he diplomatic idc and Russia vcrsy Avero the he assertion of ath to the r)lst ssian Minister, Russia and the (.Jreat Britain, iction oAer the forth Amei'ica, ted States and led the Pacific h Contracting • in fishing, or ady have been ho restrictions hinsT exercised 'acting Fowers iitizeus of the United States shall not resort to any point where there is a Russian establishment without the permission of the Governor or Commander, and that reciprocally the subjects of Russia shall not resort without permission to any establishment of the United States upon the north-west coast. "'ARTICLE III. " ' It is, moreover, agreed that hereafter therc^ shall not be formed by the citizens of the United States, or under authority of tlic said States, any establishment upon the north-west coast of America, nor in any of the islands adjacent to the north of 51^ 10' north latitude, and that in the same manner there shall be none fornunl by the Russian subjects, or under the authority of Russia, south of the same parallel. ^ , .. .■•;■■) "♦ARTICLE IV. ■■■"'• ■,;;::^;\-,v';; ;:;^ 'M'; " ' Tt is, nevertheless, understood that during a term of ten years, counting from the signatures of the present Convention, the ships of both Powers, or which belong to their citizens or subjects respectively, may reciprocally frequent, without any hindrance wliatever, the interior seas, gulfs, hai'bours, and creeks upon the coast mentioned in tlu) preceding Article, for the purpose of fishing and trading with the natiA es of tlie country.' (Wheaton's ' International Lsiw,' vol. i, pp. 2-112.) " Tlic Treaty between Russia and Great Britain contains substantially the same provisions. Neither in the Treaties nor in the correspondence is any reference made to Russia's claim of dominion over the Behring's Sea. If in the diplomatic correspon- dence leading up to the Treaty any challenge as to the jurisdiction of Behring's Sea had been made, why was it not settled by the Treaties ? Did the High Contracting tPowcrs to those Treaties enter into a discussion lasting nearly two years as to one linatter and make adjustment by Treaty as to other matters ? " The Convention between Russia and Great Britain, aside from disposing of the ||<]|uestion of Russia's asserted sovereignty over the Pacific Ocean and fixing the southera ■jlmiit of her possession on the western coast of North America, also established the ^ dividing line of their respective North American possessions from 54 40 north to the ■ frozen ocean, which boundary-line is incorporated verbatim into the Tr(^atv of Cession of JS67 from Russia to the United States. (Treaty of 1867, Article I.) " If difl'erences existed as to the dominion of the Behring's Sea, why were tiiey not also settled, as that manifestly would be a part of the object of holding the Con- vention ? " Russia's Jurisdiction, u ■ i " It cannot be successfully maintained that by such terms as the ' Great Ocean,' the ' Pacific Ocean,' or the ' South Sea,' the High Contracting Powers referred to the Behring's Sea. Aside from this, it is stipulated in both Treaties that the ships, citizens, and subjects of either PoAver may reciprocally frequent the interior seas, gulfs, harbours, and creeks of the other on the North American coast for a period of ten yeai's. The only interior sea on the North American coast was the Behring's Sea held by Russia. _ If that was a part of the ' Pacific Ocean,' or the ' Great Ocean,' or the ' South Sea.' or belonged to the high seas under the law of nations, whv the term ' interior sea,' and a\ liy should the United States and Great Britain accept a'ten years' limit of the right of navigation, fishing, and trading in an interior sea if they had the uncon. ditional right to frequent tlioso waters under the law of nations? " T|'i« section of the Treaty, therefore, really concedes Russia's dominion over Behrings Sea. '^"'■" — n«.. i^...i. -^^...^-J.^ ^i ? v . ., , , . „ „ . sovereigntv over vol. Cliancellor Kent alludes to this subject as the ' claim of Russia to the Pacific Ocean north of the 51st degree of latitude.' (Kent. i, p. 28.) ' "A suniHiary of results following the discussions and Conventions as to the Royal Ordinaucc ol 1S21 is f,h(> abaniloiunent 1)y Russia of her claim to sovereignty over the 1 acifac Ocean ; a surrender ol' licr claim to the North American coast south of -)'i° 40' • a settlement by Russia and Giv.it Britain as to the boundary-line of their possessions in JNorth America; agreements as to settlements upon each other's territory and navigation of each other's \; aters, but no surrender of Russia's jurisdiction over the Behring s Sea. I'VS ^ ;;-^ •;; ' ' ' -■ • ■ " Powers of Congress. ' • • ' * -' ' ■ " Upon this branch of the subject, the power of Congress over Bchring's Sea, there seems to be little room for discussion. The power of a nation to control its own dominions is one of the inherent elements of sovereignty. " ' When a nation takes possession of certain parts of the sea, it takes possession of the empire over them as well as of the domain, on the same principles which are advanc(!d in treating of the land. These parts of the sea are within the jurisdiction of the nation and a part of its territory ; the Sovereign commands tliem ; he makes laws and may punish those who violate them ; in a word, he has the same rights tlierc as on the land, and in general, every right Avhich the laws of the State allow him.' (Vattel's ' Law of Nations,' p. 130.) " By the Treaty of 1867, ' the cession of territory and dominion therein made is declared to he free and unencumbered by any reservations, privileges, franchises, grants, or possessions and conveys all .the rights, franchises, and privileges now belonging to llussia in the said territory or dominion and the appurtenances thereto.' (Treaty, Article VI.) " The Constitution of the United States declares that all Treaties made under the authority of the United States shall he the supreme law of the land. (Constitution of the United States, Article 6.) " That same instrument vests in Congress ' the power to make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to *'ic United States.' (Constitution of the United States, Article 4, section 3.) " Manifestly, the Acts of Congress contained in chapter 3, Revised Statutes of tlie United States, ' relating to the unorganized Territory of Alaska,' and under Avhicli the inforniutiou is brought, are embraced within these constitutional provisions. \\i''i » " Conclusion. " The foregoing record may contain but a meagre idea of the indomitable energy and perseverance displayed by the Russian people in acquiring empire in Nortli America, beginning with discoveries of Behring in 1728, and extending for more than a century and a quarter, wherein they braved the perils of land and sea, overcame a savage native population, faced ice and snow, storm and shipwjieck, to found and maintain empire on tliese rugged shores. Enough has been said to disclose the basis of Russia's right to jurisdiction of the Behring's Sea under the law of nations, viz., original posse, ion of the Asiatio coast, followed by discovery and possession of tlie Aleutian chain and the shores of Alaska North, not only to Behring's Strait but to Point Barrow and the frozen ocean, thus inclosing within its territory, as within tlie embrace of a mighty giant, the islands and waters of Behring's Sea, and with this the assertion and exorcise of dominion over land and sea^ " Such is our undei-standing of the law, such is the record. Upon them the United States are prepared to abide the Judgments of the Courts and the opinion of the civilized world. :,r. H} Inclosurc 2 in No. 77. Extract from the •'New York Herald," October \3,\881. The Alaskan Seal Fjsheuies. — The "Herald" lays before its readers this morning the grounds on which the United States claims exclusive jurisdiction over the seal fisheries of Behring's Sea, as set forth in the brief of the couusel for this country in the case against certain British vessels charged with violating our rights. The plea in defence is that the United States has no dominion over the waters of Behring's S(!a beyond a marine league, or 3 miles, from the Alaskan shore. But this view cannot he sustained. As is shown by numerous authorities cited in Counsellor j Dclaney's brief, it is a recognized principle of international law, and one which this country has always asserted, that a nation has jurisdiction not only over waters within the marine league, but all waters, -whatever their extent, embraced within its land dominion. Gulfs, bays, and arms of the sea belong to the country within whose land j they are encompassed. Now Behring's Sea is not a part of the open or high sea. It is, as Mr. Delauey clearly shows, " an inland water cut off from the ocean and essentially land-locked." I Before tlu; purcliase of Alaska by the United States in 1807 it was within the exclusive 121 • Behrinp's Soa, control its own takes possession iples which aiv e jurisdiction of he makes laws rights there as ate allow him,' therein matle is •ges, franchises, I, and priviloi^os ) ai)purtenanccs made under tlic . (Constitutiou 11 needful rules » to *'ie United I Statutes of tiio id under which • revisions. omitahle energy mpirc in Novtli g for more than sea, overcame a i, to found and lisclosc the hasis of nations, viz., ossession of tlie ;'s Strait but to y, as within tlic 1(1 with this the them the United opinion of the its readers tbis sdiction over tlic for this country gilts. '^er the waters of ! shore. But tliis d in Counsellor 1 one which this er waters within within its land ithin whose land as Mr. Delaney Uy land-locked." I liin the exclusive ! jurisdiction of Russia. By that purcliase it passed into the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States, which succeeded to the title of Russia. No. 78. • T/ie Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L, West. Sir, Foreign Office, October 26, 1887. WITH reference to my despatch of tlio 19th instant, requesting you to protest to the United States' Government against the seizure of the British sealing schooner " Alfred Adams " in Behring's Sea, I have to instruct you to give the United States' Secretary of State a copy of the Report, and inclosures, which was drawn up by Mr. Foster, tlie Canadian Minister of Marine and Fisheries, on the 15th ultimo. [ understand that this document has been communicated to you by the Governor- General of Canada, and a cojjy was inclosed in the letter from the Colonial OflRce of tiie 17th instant. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 79. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. fVest. Sir, Foreign Office, October 29, 1887. I HAVE received your despatch of the Idtli instant, inclosing a note from Mr. Bayard, in which he expresses regret that the orders of the President of the United States for tin; release of the vessels " Carolina," " Onward," and " Thornton " ■ghould have been delayed through miscontieptioii, aiul states that renewed orders liave peen f()vward(>d for their liberation. I approve your action in having forwarded a copy of this note to the Governor •General of Canada. ,; I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 80. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Sali.^bur!/. — {Received October 31.) My Lord, Washington, October 20, 1887. I HAVE the lionour to inclose to your Lordship herewith copy of a note which, upon the receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 19th, I addressed to the Secretary or State protesting against the seizun; of the Canadian vessel " Alfred Adams " in l^chring's Sea, and against the continuation of similar proceedings by the United Slates' autliorities on the high seas. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure in No. 80. Sir L. West to Mr. Bayard. i ^'^'' T TT 4 vl^ ii 1 Washington, October 19, 1887. lo 1- , honour to mform you that T am instructed bv the Marquis of rS;ihsbury, Her Slajesty's Princn'pal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, to protest lagamst the siMzure of the Canadian vessel " Alfred Adams " in Behring's Sea, and tagainst the contmuation of similar proceedings liy tlie United States' authorities on the |nigh seas. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. L128J E t" i '1 : , if 1 I \ u \ 1 \ >i 'i 5 i i ■ I i .';■ ' i i .^# i a I'ffi i ||M 1 11 ■ 1 199 No. m. Sir L, Went to the Marijuh of iS'«/i,W»«ry. — (liecpired Novrmhrr 14.) My I/«ml. Wnshinijtnn, Oclnlin 2.'», 1HH7. AVri'H rofm'Ticc to my <l('s|mt«'li of Uio I'Olli iiistimj, in wliicli I liiwl (lie lionour lo iiicloso copy ol' tlic imti' wliicli, Mccordiii^f to iiiNlniclioiis, I luldn-Nsc'd (o tlir Unitctl Slad's' (lovcriimciil on tlic siilijiH't ol' (lio seizure of liu) " AU'red Adnin.s" In Heliriiiii's Sen, I linve flio lionour to trimsniit lierewitli eoity of Mr. iJnyiinl'H reply, in wliieii lie nekiio\vlodj;e.s the receipt ol' tny uliove-nitMilioiiea ednnuiiiieation. r liave, &(!. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLli WEST. Inelosure in No. SI, Mr. Itayard lo Sir L. West. Sir. Drpartmnil of i^liilr, W'liKliliiijIon, Oclnlwr 22, 1887. r HAD tlie lionour to reeeive la.st evening' your note of the lOlli iiiNlanl, eonvi'vini; the instnietions addressed to you hy the Marquis of Salishury, that ydii should i)rolest aij.'iinst the seizure* of the C!inadiai\ vessel "Alfred Adams" in Helirimi's Sea. and a^:Minst the eontinuane(< of Hiiuilar jiroceedinf^s liy the ITniIni States' authorities on tiio liii,'li seas, and I have, ite. (.Sif,'n(Ml) T. V. HAY AIM). No. 82. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (liereived November 21.) Sir, Downinij SI reel, Novewher 19, 1887. WITH refon>!ie(> to previous eorrespondenee, 1 Jimdireeted hy Secretary Sir llciny Holland to transmit to ycu, to he laid hel'or(> the Manpiis of Salishury, a copy of ji despatch from th(> (ioveriu)r-(ieneral of t^aiiada, I'orwardinu; a Minute of the Mxeeullve Council of Hritish Columhia respectinu; the value to that province of the sealini,' industry on lVlirini:;'s Sea. I am to ask what .MnswiM" should lie n>turned lo Lord l.aiisdowne, and to siii^f^csl that copies of these papers should bo forwarded to llcr Alajcsty's ]\Iinister mI Wa.shini!;lon. I am, &c. (Sif,nied) JUJIN JillAMSTON. Inclosiiro 1 iu No. 82. The ^farquis of Lnnxdowne to Sir H. Holland. Sir, Government House, Otiriwn, October 20, 1887. I HAA'E the honour to transmit to you a co])y of an a])i)rove(l Iloport of n Commit t«'(> of th<» I'rivy Council, to which is api)cnde(l a copy of a desjiatch from liis Honour the l,ioutonanl-(io\ernor of Mrilish Columhia, coverinsi: ii Minute of his Executive Council setting forth the value to Uritish Columhia of the present scaliu|,' industry in Jiehrim''s Sea. You will observe lliat the Executive Council of Ih-itish Columbia consider that the rii-'hts of Hritish subjects, as rejj;ards the J?(>liriiia''s St>a, should be incUulcd in tin' scope of l!;c duties of the International Tisherios Commission. I have, &c. (Signed) LANSDOWNE. 9i8 ■>•) n an, 1HH7. >|i I Imil Mio Idrt'ssrtI lt> llit> mI AdimiH" in iinrH ruply, in on. ,LK WliST. hvr 22, 1HH7. . IJHli inslMMt, il)iiry, lliat jnii (I Adsitiis" in hy llio Uiiilcd . HAYAIM). i./.n- 10. 1HK7. ctary Sir llfiny iry, a t't>|)y of ii I" (lie Kxi'ciilivc ol' tlio Noaiin^' iiiid to NU!ij;f^('sl 's ]\lini8tt>r al UlAMSTON. ohcr 20, 1887. cd lU'port of !i 'sjjaitdi from liis Alinutc of his present, scalin;; )ia consider lliat ineluvlcd in tin' \.NSDOWNU. ' ■ ImiloHure 2 in No. H2. lii'mri of It Commillet' of the Uanoumbh the I'rivif Voiiiwit for (Unuiilii, npiironril hi/ Ilia ' lixrclli-nrij tliir (iotwrmr-Umvritl in Vouiiiil on tlir \:)lh Oilolin, IWM7. UoinnnsHion in proce.s.s ol or^'anizaiion. ,. , Tlie MiniNlcror Marini- and I'MHlierii-s. to whom the despattdi and imdoHiir(iH wero reiVrred, recommends (hat. a eopy ol' the (h-spat.eli rererred (o, with its ineloHuroH, ho transmitted to Her Majesty's (lovernmeiit. 'rh(> Commiltei- nilvise tli;d your I'lieelh-ney l)e miovimI to transmit a copy of Mkj papers lien-in mentioned to Die' Itiirlit llononrahh^ tiie Heertitary of .itute I'or thu Cohmies, I'or I he ini'orm.ition of Her Maje.sty's (lOVernmcMit. Ail wliicli is respectfnlly snlimille<l. (Hij^fimd) I'livij Connnlfor (JiinaUn. IncloHure !J in No. H2. I<p^ fjivutvnnnt-Qovfirnor NcLson to the Hncretiiri/ of Slntr, Ottawa. 'jgir, Harrison Hot ti/irinys, Urilinh Coluinliiii, Srplcmhrr Jo, IHH7. 5 I HAVIC the honour to transmit herewith a copy ol' a Minnte, of my l'iXecutiv« fjCouneil, approved hy mo on tlu! S)th instant, representing; tin; vaiiai to the I'rovin*!*) of firitisli Columhia of the present .soaiint; industry in IJeliriny's Hvn, tlie numhor of A^'Vcssi'ls, men, »te., en^'a^ed in tlui sann;, the hms to the provincic certain to enHUC from the destrn(rlion of this trade l)y tin' .seizuri-s und (ronliseations ma(h) l)y the United States' (iruizers. That the ri;;lits of ISriti'^l'. suhji'cts Hinniid h!iv(^ tin; nanut protection and c(m»ido« ration on tlu^ I'aeilhr ;is on tin- Atlantic, and that full compiMisalion and redness for injuries already rcc^eiviMl, and assnrarures of future non-inliM'fereiuie, should he; uhlainod from the IJuitivl Slatiis' (Jovernment. 'I'iial this ((uestion siiould lie in(du(led in the sef)p<; of the duti(!S of the Inter- national j''ish(!ry Commission now umlerslood to Im; in process of orf^.anization, and tthat it is d(!sirjihle siiid Commi.ssion Hliould hold somc^ of its nittin^s in Victoria, for [reasons therein set forth, itc. [ have, &e. (Signed) JITKJJl NliLSON. Inclosure 4 in No. 82. Province ok Uimtisu Columiiia. llojiort of (I ('omiiillter of the llonnuriihle the H.rer.ulive Council, tipprnved hi/ hi.it Honour the LieiUenaiil.-dlovernor on the \)lh Heplember, 1887. ON a Memorandum frcmitlu! Honourable the Minister of Tinanco and Agriculture, [dated the Uth September, 1887, setting forth — 'lliat tliere are usually engaged in Heal-lisliing in IJeliring's Sea seventeen vessels [wholly owned by people residing in this (!ity, of the aggr(!gat(! value of 12.5,000 dollars ; 'J'liat the outfit for each scuni-annual voyage of these vessels represents an expen- Ijjiture of 76,000 dollars, equal to 150,000 dollars a-yea- ; I That each of these vessels, on an average, empioys a crew of five whites and about twenty Indians, or iiftceu to eightecu whites as hunters ; Ll-Si 11 2 '/" n^ 124 M That ilio prohiihlc aj^f^ropnto vnliKiof tlio pmductof cacU voya^fo is 200,000 dollars, or 100,0()() dollars a-ycar ; That this industry, thoujjfli as yot ouly in its iiifaiicry, is a very irnjiortant one lor so small a coniiniinity ; That Ihc 1,'larinj^ and unlawful soizurrs and conliswitions in Hchrini^'s Sea dniini,' last season and the |)n's('nt year arc coiniilolcly crushiiii,' out this inlant industry, and causing; ruin, and, in several known instances, atitnal distress, to tlioso ho have invested their all in the business and relied njion it for a livciiihood ; That the destruction of this industry not oidy entails ruin and distress u[)on those directly enga!j;e(l therein, l)ut if aiVccts most injuriously the trade of the province, aid drives from these waters a race of hardy and advt^ntnrous lisl:ernien, who, with their families, are lartfo consumers, and who would in time become a very important clement of stren^'th, if not lln^ nuchuis of the future navy of Canada on tlie I'acifle. That the rifi;hts and interests of IJritish subjects, whether in llslierics or commerci', are entitled to the same consideration aiul protection on the Pacific as on the Atlantic, and that it is tliend'orc the duty of the Dominion Government to employ every propi^r ;i."ans for obtainiui; immediate and full compensation and redress for |)as't injuries and vroni^s, as well as to f^uard against the possibility of a repetition of these high-handed outrages in the future ; Tliat it is believed to be desirahh' that this question should bo included in tlip scope of th(^ duties of the International Conunission now understood to be in process of organization for the settlement of the fishery disputes existing bet wi;en Canada and the United States of America ; and it is considered most important that the said Coni- mission should hold one or more of its sittings in this city, in order that those more directly acquaintinl with and interested in the I'acnlie fisheries may have a better opportunity of being h(!ard and making the Commissioners more thoroughly acquainted with the subject than would otherwise be possible : The ConTmittce advise apj»roval, and that a copy of this Minute be forwarded to the llonourable the Secretary of State for Canada [.sic]. Certified, (Sigucd) JNO. IIOBSON, Clerk, Executive Council. No. 83. ! >: The Marquis of tialisburi/ to the British Plenipotentiaries at the Fisheries Conference. - {ISnbstanc" Iclvijruphed.) Gentlemen, Foreiijn Office, ISiovember 28, 1887. I RECE1^"EU on the 20th instant a telegram from !Mr. Chamberlain, inquirini; whether a projjosal for .'in International Conference in regard to the J3ehring's Sea fisheries had been aceej)ted by Ller .Majesty's Government. You are aware, from the corres})ondcnec whicdi is in your possession, that comiuunicatious witli referouce to a proposal which would aj)pear to have been addressed to some of the Maritime Towers by the United States for an International Conventiou for the protection of seals in the Bchring's Sea, were received last October from the German aud Swedish Charges d'AiVaircs in London. No definite invitation, however, for an international understanding on this question bus yet been received from the Government of the United States by llor Majesty's Government. In answer to a question from Mr. I'helps, I have expressed myself as beiiii; favourably disposed to negotiating for an agreement as to a close season in all seal fisheries, to whomsoever belonging, but I carefully separated the question from all controversies as to fishery rights. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBUllY. :i : 125 200,000 (lollnis, iporlant one lor iii^'h S(»a diiriii;,' it, industry, aiuj illOSO llO llMVI' Iross ii|)<)ii ilKisi. ic proviiK'i', ;ik1 wlio, witli their voiy important Cniiada on the C8 or eoinmcrco, on tlio Atlantic, ) t'lnjiloy cvi'iy rcdruss I'or |)ast )ctition of tlu'sc included in the to 1)0 in process (!on Catiada ami it tlu? said Com- tliat those more ' have a better ghly acquainteil be forwarded to cutive Council. >■ Conference. mber 28, 1887. orlain, inquiriiiL; 10 JJoiiring's Sen possession, that r to have hecii m International ved last Oetnlur sanding on this 3d States by Her myself as hoini,' iason in all seal nestion from all 5ALISBU11Y. No. HI. The Marquis of Salisbury to the Britink Commisnionern to the /'7,v/if/iV,» Conference, Gcntlomon, Foreii/n Of/in; i\oti;nliir 29, 1887. I TRANSMIT horowitli, for your information, a copy of a letter from the Colonial Ollice,* and its inelosures, ealliiiir attention to llie value to JJritisli Columliiii of the pres(!nt soalini; industry in Hclirini,''s Sea. The ICxecutive Couneil of the Colony express a desiie that this (lucstiou should bo included in the scope of tlu^ duties of the l-'isheries Conference now Hitting at I Washington. A copy of the reply which Las been returned to the Colonial Ofliee is also inclosed thcre\vitli.+ I am, Sic. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 85. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. ^Sir, Foreign Office, November 29, 1887. I AM directed by Ihi; ^larquis of Salisbury to aekIlo\vle(l^'e tht! receipt of your *'' letter of the I'.Hli instant, Avith its inclosures, showing the value to British Columbia of tbc present sealing industry in Behring's Sea. His Lordship notes the opinion expressed in the Minute of the I^xecutive Council Jf the Colony that this question should be included in the scope of the duties of tho fisheries Conference now sitting at Washington. «? I am now to rociuest that, in laying this letter before Seercftary Sir II. Holland, ;Vou will state to liim that copies of Lord Lansdowno's dosjiateh of the 20tli ultimo, ■'and of its inclosures, will be forwarded to the British I'lenipotimtiaries at the v^* Conference. I am also to call attention to the instructions in regard to this subject contained in Lord Salisbury's despatch of the 21tb ultimo to the British Plenipotentiaries. J It was then stated that " the question of the seal fisheries in tho Behring's Sea ... has not been specifically included in the terms of reference ; but you will understand that if the United States' Plenipotentiaries should Ix; authorized to discuss that subject, it would come within the terms of the rcfereuce, and that you have full power and authority to treat for a settlement of the points involved in any manner which you may deem advisable, whether by a direct discussion at the present Conference or by a reference to a subsequent Conference to adjust tiiat particular question." Lord Salisbury would suggest, for Sir H. Holland s consideration, that the substance of these instructions should be communicated to the Governor-General of 4 Canada. I am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 86. Mr. J. Chamberlain, M.P., to the Murquis of Salinbury. — {Received December 12.) My Lord, Washington, November 28, 1887. I HAV^E received your Lordship's telegram of this day's date, in reply to mine of the 2oth instant. In explanation of the circumstances which led me to address to your Lordship the inquiry contained in my telegram, I should state that Mr. Angell, one of the United States' Plenipotentiaries at the Fishery Conference, stated to me, in the course of a private and confidential conversation, that an invitation had been conveyed to your Lordship, on behalf of the United States, to take part in an International Conference for the protection • No. 82. t No. 85. Si'e '• United States No. 1 (IS88),' ! ! I 130 (if the seal fnlicrics in the Hcliriiig'ti Sea, uiul tliat your LurdHliip Imd cordially ucccptcd tliid iiivitttiun. I limy iuld tliat tlic (|uostion of tliu seal fi^^iiory in the llehting's Sea hiw not yet niLscn tor discussiuii at the iiittings uf the Cunt'erencc, I have, &c. (Signed) .1. CHAMBEHLAIN. No. 87. Colonial Office to Forc'njn Office. — (Received December 2fi.) Sir, f)nw)iiiii/ SI reef, December 2(5, 1887. I iVM directed by the Secretary of State for tiie Colonics to traiisniit to you, to be laid liefore the .Mar(|iiis of Salislmry, a copy of a des])ateli from tlu^ (jovcrnor-Ge'icral of Canada, forwardiiii; revised claims made by the owners of tlie "Thornton" ami "Carolina " for hisses sustain(>d on account of the seizure of those vessels by a United States' IJi'vcnue vessel in Hehrin^;'s Sea. 'I'he revised claim of tlie owners of the "Onward," the other vessel seized in ISSfi' has not yet been received, but Lord Salisbury will know whether it will bo advisablo to wait for it before puttini,' forw.ard the "I'liornton" and "Carolina" claims. I am to request that the inclosures in Lord Landowue's despatch, which arc sent in original, may be returned when done Aviih. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. '4 Inclosure 1 in No. 87. The Marquis of Lnnndowne to Sir H, Hollnnd. Sir, Goveniinent House, Olttiwa, December 2, 18S7. W ITll reference to your dcsjiatidi of the lltb September last on the subject of the seizure of British scaling-vcsscls in JJehrinuj's S(>a by United States' llcveniu' crnizers, and direct im,' attention to tiie mai,'iiilude of the claims for compensation pre- fiHTcd by the owners asjainst the United States' Government, 1 have the honour tu forward luu-cwitb a copy of an ap[)roved Report of a Committee of the Vrivy Councii, yubmittiuij; !i revised Statement of the losses sustained in the cases of the "Tbornlou' and " Carolina." My Minister of Marine and Fisheries considers that the claims now made are not unreasonable. You will observe that whereas the amount at first claimed in respect of the seizim' j of these two vessels was 1()2,22;3 dollars, the amount now claimed is 71,130 I'ol. G() c. Tn the case of the " Onward," the third vessel seized, the claim has not yet been j returned by the owners. I have &c (Signed) ' LANSDOWNE. A Inclosure 2 in No. 87. Certified Copy of n Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council for Canmk, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council on the 2dth November, 1887. THE Committee of the Privy Council have had under consideration a despatch, dated the 14th September, 18S7, from the Right Honourable the Sccrctai\y of State tot j the Colonies, on the subject of the seizure of British sealing- vessels in Behriug's Sea by United States' Revenue crnizers, and directing attention to certain claims for com- pcMisation against the United States' Government. The Minister of Marine and Fisheries, to whom the despatch and inclosures wore I referred, stated that the claims (three in number) referred to in this despatch were j 127 nrdially accoptcj Sea hiw not ytt ^MBERI.AIN. ) mher 20, I8K7. mit to you, to W lovernor-GoMcral ' 'Ihornton " an sL'ls l)y a Ujiitt'd y| '1 seized in iss(;> vill 1)0 udvisalilc claims. 1, which arc sent BIIAMSTON. ember 2, 18S7. 11 the subject of States' lleveiuif impensation i)rc'- e the honour to ic Privy Council. the "Thornlim' ,t the claims now ?ct of the seiziin' 1,130 <Iol. GO c. las not yet been ANSDOWNE. wncUfor Cflddrfi, | 5i9</t November, ation a despatch, :^tary of State for j JJehriui^'s Sea l)y claims tor com- 1 1 inclosures Averc is despatch were igent back to the owners of the vessels for revision. Tn the eases of two of tliese, the "Thornton" and "Carolina," a Cull and <letaiied revised Stntcnu-nt of the losses is aubniitted herewitii. These, the Minister submits, are not nnreasdnable; the claim for the "Onward," the third vessel seized, has not yet been returned by the owners. The Conunittci! rceonmiend that your llxeelleney he moved to forward the claims luivin mentioned to the l{i!,'bt Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for transmission to the United States' (iovernment. All which is respectfully sul)mitle(l for your Excellency's approval. * (Sitjned) JOHN J. McQEE, Clerk, Privy Council, Cunuda. Inelosurc 3 in Vo. 87. Declaration of Jameg Douglas Warren. ity of Ottawa, Province of Ontario, Dominion of Canada. I, JAMES DOUGLAS WAIlin-^N, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia, of the Dominion of Canada, mariner and ship-owner, solemnly and tincerelv declare as follows : — 1. 'rhat I am the duly authorized a^ent of William IMunsle, of the city of Victoria aforesaid, the owner of the hereinafter UK'utioned schooner " Carolina." 2. That the said schooner "Carolina" is a British vessel, ret,'istered at the pcn-t of Victoria aforesaid, of about tons burden, builders' measurement, and that in A.l>. ISHl. the "Carolina" Avas rebuilt and leniithened about 15 feet by a section built Wnidsbips, and put in iirst-class order and condition. In A.n. 1885 the said "Caro- ^a" Avas valued for insurance by the Union Insurance Company at 'l.,0()0 dollare, t$A in A.D. 18H() the California Insurance Compnuy placed the same value, namely, 4000 dollars, upon her for a like purpose. T am informed by the said 'William Munslo, Wkd believe that since the rcbuildinu; and cnlari?ement of the " Carolina," she has not biDcn re-registered at the port of Victoria aforesaid nor at any other jiort, and that flonsequf^ntly her actual tonnage is greater than appears by the oflicial record, or tho liegistor of the said " Carolina." 3. That on or about the 20tb day of jMay, a.d. ISSO, the said " Carolina" left the g)rt of Victoria aforesaid, after having been duly cleared at Customs, one James gilvi(! being master, and one James Blake mate, and a crow of nin(^ sailors and hunters, on a fishing and hxmting voyage in the North Pacific Ocean and Bebring's Sea. 1'. That on the 1st day of August, in said year 1880, while in said Bebring's Sea in north latitude 55° 50', Avest longitude 168" 53', then being from Gu to 75 miles from the nearest land, and Avhile, as I am informed and verily believe, laAvfully pursuing ihe objects of said voyage, the said schooner " Carolina " AA'as seized by the United States' steam-ship " Corwin," and taken to Ounalaska, in tho Territory of Alaska, of ^•dho United Statc>s of America, and her voyage broken up. 5. That on arrival at Ounalaska aforesaid the "Carolina" AA'as, by order of the ■•'United States' authorities, stripped of her outfit and running-gear, the seal-skins on >J)oard taken out, the captain, James Ogilvie, and the mate, James Blake, placed under est and sent to Sitka, in said Territory of Alaska, and the creAV sent to the city of Ian Francisco. 6. That upon arriA'al at Sitka the captain and the mate of the "Carolina" were lormally charged Avith having violated the laws of the United States of America speeting seal-tishing in the AA'aters of Alaska, but before the day fixed for the hearing d trial of said charge Captain Ogilvie disappeared, and AA'as al'terAvards found dead in ir about the neighbourhood of Sitka. The mate, James Blake, Avas tried, found guilty, d sentenced to ])ay a fine of 300 dollars and bo imprisoned at Sitka for thirty days, d Avhich imprisonment lie, James Blake, suffered. 7. That liercto annexed, marked (A), is a Statement of the articles comprising the •Utfit of the schooner " Carolina " on her departure on said A'oyage, and all of which ■ verily bclievt; were on board the " Carolina " at the time of her seizure, excepting inly Avhat had b(!en consumed in the ordinary course of the voyage, together Avith the lue of said articles, also of tl)c amount of premiums paid for insurance on tho hull, tiit, and cargo of the said " Carolina " for the said voyage ; also of the amount butiit, wages paid to the crew and hunters on board the " Carolina " up to tbe time of jch seizure ; also of the expenses of the mate and part of the crew in letumiug to the 128 m II ' ! .i city of Victoria from Ounalaska and Sitka, and also a stutemont of the mniil)er of 8cal>skins on board the "Carolina" at the time of said seizure, and the value thereof. 8. The Exhibit (B) hereto annexed is a Statement of the catch of thirteen sealing-vesaels in and about the Uehrini^'s Sea during so much of the season ot A.I). 1886 as they wci-e in liehrinf^'s Sea. The statement is taken from the lle])oit of the Inspector of l-'isheries for the Province of British Columbia for the year iHSd, as contained in the llepoit of the Department of Fisheries for Canada at pages 2 IH and 249, and I verily say, from j)crsonal knowledge of the facts, that tlie siiid Statement is substantial, true, and correct. The schooners " Carolina," meaiiing tlic "Carolina" her in mentioned, and "Thornton" and "Onward," were seized on the 1st and 2n'l August in 1880, and their voyage? thus broken u]) ; the schooners " ilarv Taylor," " Mountain Chief," " Hustler,"" and "Kate" not having been in Behrin<,''s Sea during the season of 18SG, the catch of these above-named schooners are not included in estimating the average catch i; l^ebring's Sea for that year. On account of the seizures made oi, the 1st and 2nd August as aforesaid, and of the schoonnr "Favorite" being ordorcu out of the sea oy the Commander of the said " Corwiu," the thirteen vessels mentioned in Exhibit (B), with one or two exceptions, loft Behring's fc!ea, or the best sealing-grounds therein long before the close of the sealini,' season, and thus the . jrago catch as fou ul in Exhibit (B) is fully, as 1 verily believe, 500 skills less than it would have b(!en had thr>y all remained till the end ot' tlic season. 9. That hereto annexed, marked (C), is a Statement of the legal expopsos incurred at Sitka and elsewhere by rea'ion of the seiziu-e of the " Carolina," and tiic arrest of her captaiji and mate as aforesaid, and also of the personal cxiienses couneetod therewith. 10. That hereto annexed, maviced (D), is a Statement of t'le damages claimed 1" the owner of the "Carolina" by nason of her said seizure and detention during tlic years 1HH\, 1887, and 1888, 'jased upon the average catch of seal-skins per vessel as found by Exhibit (B). 11. The price per skin charged in Exhibits (A) and (D), namely, 7 dollars, was tlip markat price at Vici ria ".toresaid at the close of the season of 188(5, and was the price which, in the ordina.-y v' )urse of events, would have been r(3alized for said ^'pl-skins had not such seizure takon place. 12. That liereto annexed, marked (E), is an estimate of the principal sums on which interest is claimed, from the 1st day of October, a.d. 188(5, on or about wliidi date the catcV. of the " Carolina " avouM have been realized on had she not been seized, anil alsc bn* the actual outlay by her owner vior to that date, arising by reason of the seizure a.ul detention of the " Carolina," the arrest of the captain and mate, and the expenses of the mate and crew in returjiing to Victoria from Ounalaska and Sitka. 13. That during the month of October, a.d. 18S0, and fescr since that time, the minimum rate of interest on money Un- commercial purjmses at the city of Victoria aforesaid was and now is 7 per c(>nt. ])er annum. 14. That hereto annexed, marked (E), is a Statement of the items of the outfit of the "Carolina" when im said voyage and the value thereof, which would have been wholly consumed iii the ordiuary prosecution of a full season's hunting and lishiDg voyage. 15. The prices charged for the articles and groups of articles in Exhibit (A), comprising the <mtlU of the "Carolina," are th<> market prices of the said articles and groups of articles at Victoria at the time of their purchase for the purposes of s lid voyage. 16. That as to the item, "Cash on board and unaccounted for, 500 dollars," charged in Exhibit (A), I am informed by the said "William ]\lunsle, and do verily believe, that the said sum of 500 dollars was phu'wl on board the "Carolina" at tii'o time of her departure from Victoria as aforesaid, intrusted to the master, .laiiies Ogilvie, fo' .. ' in cases of emergency or unforesec.i expenditures, and I verif- believe that said sum of .'JOO dollars was on l)oard the " Carolina " at the time of he. jizure; but owing to the death of Captain Ogilviv'^ at Tjitka. it was not known by t\w said owner what became of the said sum of 500 ib>li.",rs. 17. That at the time of the sei/ure of the " Carolina '' she was in good order and condition, having be(;n thoroughly overhauled before starting out on said voyage, and not having sustained any damage beyond ordinary wear and tear during said voya;,'e up to the time of her seizure. 120 ; of the number , and tlie value itch of thirteen ' the season of rom the lleport )!• tlie year lHM(i, ada at pages 2 is s, that the said a," meaniiii,' tlic re seized on the eliooncrs " llarv een in Jiehriii^''s Jiooners are not ar. On account of the sclioonor said " Corwiii," exceptions, loft so of the sealiiin; 1 verily heliovc, the end of tiic ! legal expenses rolina," and tlic [)enses connectinl lages claimed I"- iition durlnji,' tlw ins per vessel as 1 dollars, was ( he nd was the price )r said «'?i.l-skiiis incipal sums on or about wiiicli d sl:<! not been irisiug by reason iptain and mate, I Ounalaska and that time, the city of Victoria 1 of the outfit of muld have been ting and lishiiig in Exhibit (A), said articles and purposes of said pr, 500 dollars," 0, and do verily Carolina" at the ! master, .fauies I veril- believe i of he. jlzurc; )\vn by the said good order and said voyage, and ring said voya!,'e 18. That the value jjlaced on the " Carolina," namely, 4,000 dollars, is a fair and [reasonable valuation of the said schooner, and from my i)ersonal knowledge f)f tlie Carolina," and the value of vessels of her class at Victoria, I verily believe that she [could not be replaced by a ves^sel in all respects as good and as well adapted to tiie [purposes for which she was used for a less sum than 4,000 dollars. I 19. That on or about the 13tli day of July last past I was at Ounalaska aforc- Isaid, and saw and was on board of tbo snid schooner " Carolina." She was then lying [anchored in the harbour at Ounalaska, stripped of all her outfit and running gear. [cr standing rigging was muc^- weather-beaten, her iron work much rusted, her deck seems in a bad state, and I verily believe, from the condition in which the " Carolina " len was, and in view of the fact that she must remain so exposed until ler.st next May [A.D. 1888), it will cost at least 4,000 dollars to put her in as good repair and condition when seized and return her to Victoria. To be taken to Victoria under ordinary jircumstances would alone cost between 2,500 and 3,000 dollars. 20. That the "Carolina" at the time of her seizure was insured in the California [nsurancc Company for the sum of 2,500 dollars on her hull, and in the sum of 1,000 dollars on her outfit and cargo. 21. That the estimated loss of 5,000 dollars 'or each of the years 1887 and 188H \)j reason of the seizure and detention Ox' the " Carolina " as aforesaid is based upon un iiverage catch of 2,380 seal-skins for each of the said years, at 5^ dollars per skin, "Vhich Avas the market value per skin at Victoria at the close of the season of 1887, .after deducting therefrom the cost of outfit and wages, based on the "Carolina's" :?i^^oyage of a.d. 188G. '"*" And I, JarL.3s Douglas Warren, aforesaid, make this solemn declaration, f;on- scientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the Act respecting extra- judicial oaths. F Declared and affirmed before me at the city of Ottawa, in the county of Carleton, £d the Province of Ontario, this 28th day of November, a.d. 1887, and certified under igiiy otiieial seal. (Signed) J, D. WARREN. (Signed) W. D. Hogg, Notary Public for Ontario. Exhibit (A). Value of the schooner "Carolina" at the time of seizure Ouiut— Groceries . . . . . . . . . , Ammunition . . , . . . . , Six short guns . . Five rifles . . Oun implements and tools . . . , Dry goods .. Ship chandlery . . , , . . Wattf casks . . . . Chronometer . . . . Four canoes and outfit . . . . . . , , One boat . . . . , . . . . , Salt Coal and wood for fuel . . . . . , Cooking stove and utensils . . . , . . . . Miscellaneous . . . . , . . , . , Cash on board aul unaccounted for . . . . . , Two scxtai'ts ,, .. ,, Insurnnco premivim and survey fee on 2,500 dollars on hull and 1,000 dollai-s 01. outfit and cargo ., ,. Wages paid to hunter.! and crews for voyage up to timi, of seizure . Tart of crew having b -Ci; sent ?o Sun FranciNco by United States' authorities, board of iwt ineu at Sun Francisco and passngc- monry thence to Victoria Passage-money and expenses o,' mate, James Blake, from Sitka to Victoria after release from prison . . , , 686 seal-skins on board the "Carolina" whc.i seized, and not returned, at 7 dollars per skin . . Total Exhibit (A) Dol. c. Dol. c. •• 4,000 00 598 60 173 34 300 00 130 00 17 29 71 37 376 83 12 00 160 00 248 50 100 00 81 00 37 02 79 00 42 34 500 00 75 00 ;( nno an 1,332 22 362 50 fl28] 71 72 100 00 2,003 94 • • 4,803 00 • • 14,161 33 .. f Vis • * M f In? '4 1 H ill 111 fl i 1!^ Ill -hi •i <i 11 It m Exhibit (B). — Nttmbee of seal-skins taken by each of the following thirteen sealiurj vessels during the year 1886 in and about the Behring's Sea, most of the said vessels leaving the sea before the end of the season fearing capture. Vessels. Number of Seal-skins. Pathfinder .. Mary Ellen . . Theresa Fovourito Black Diamond Alfred Adams Active . . . . City of Santiago Silvia Handy Dolphin .. Anna Beck . . Grace Sayward • • • . t * * . a • . • a • • at a * a a • a • a a .a . . . . • .a • a * a a a • a* . • at a • l,76fi •1,250 2,025 2,li25 1.700 2,465 2,275 1,020 1,587 2,601 1,400 2,550 2,725 Total catch 30,955 Avcrogc per vessel . . 2,381 Exhibit (0). Legal expenses at Sitka in connection with the seizure of the " Carolina " . . Counsel and other le^al fees and expenses in and about the seizure of the " Carolina," and the claims arising thereunder, exclusive of the above 500 dollai'S .. a a a. a. a. aa Personal expenses other than the above in the same connection a a . . Total •• .a a. aa a. •• Dol. c. 500 00 750 00 250 00 1,500 00 Exhibit (D). — Estimated damages arising from the secure and detention of the schooner "Carolina" based on the average catc'i per vessel as given in Exhibit (B), season 1886. Average catch of seals . , Less on board at seizure, and charged in Exhibit (A) . . Balance at 7 dollars per skin .a a . Ileasonablo and probable profit on operations for year 1887 . . "Carolina" not being reica cJ and rot available fo engage in next yciir's operations, reasonabli and probable profit for loOO •• •• .. aa .a aa Totol of Exhibit (D) No. 2,381 089 Dol. 1,095=11,865 00 Dol. 0. 5,000 00 5,000 00 10,000 00 21,865 00 Exhibit (E). — Estimate of the principal sums on •which interest at 7 per cent, pe: annum is claimed, and the time for which interest is so claimed. Value of "Carolina's" estimated catch for 1886 — namely. 2,381 skins, at 7 dollars per skin — from the 1st day of October, A.n 1886, when the catch would have been realized on . . Actual cash outlay for legal and other necessary expenses incurred by reason of the caid seizure . . . . Total principal on which interest is claimed from October, A.D. 1886, to date of payment of claim Estimated value of the "Carolina" catch for 1887, less cost of outfit and wages of crew and hunters, on which interest at 7 per cent, is claimed from 1st October, a.d. 1887, on or about which date the catch would bo realized on to date of payment .a If the claim for 1887 be not allowed, then interest is claimed on the value of the " Carolina" from Ist October, 1886, to date of payment .. .. .. Dol. c. 16,667 00 500 00 Dol. c. 17,167 00 .. 5,000 00 4,000 00 t ' thirteen sealiu? most of the said s ire. 131 Exhibit (F).— Details of items of "Carolina's" outEt consumed during the course of a full hunting and sealing voyage. (ins. Groceries . . Ammunition Dry goods . , Ship cbandclry Salt Coal and wood Miscellaneous Wascs of crew Dol. c. 598 60 173 34 71 37 076 83 81 00 37 62 42 34 1,832 22 Total value consumed . 3,213 32 Dol. c. 500 00 750 00 250 00 1,500 00 detention of the ssel as given in Dol. c. = 11,865 00 10,000 00 21,865 00 at 7 per cent, per aimed. Dol. c. 17,167 00 fi,000 00 4,000 00 Inclosure ii in No. S7. Declaration of James Douglas Warren. ity of Ottawa, Province of Ontario, Dominion of Canada. I, JAMES DOUGLAS WARREN, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of lish Columbia, of the Dominion of Canada, mariner and sV.ip-owncr, do solemnly id sincerely declare as follows : — 1. That I am a Eritish subject by birth. 2. That I -was sole owner of the Dritish steam-schooner "Thornton,"^ 78 tons Lrdeu by builders' mrasuromcnt, registered at the port of Victoria aforesaid, before id at the time of Lt-r seizure hereinafter set out by the United States' steam-ship ' Corwin," 3. That the said steam-schooner "Thornton" was rebuilt by me in a.d.1887,* at a 3st of 3,500 dol'ars, and in A.u. 1880 and a.d. 1881 was fitted up with steam Iropclling power a i an additional cost of 3,000 dollars. Her "bottom and sides of above ';ht water-line T.ere coppered and copper fastened. '!.. That on or about the ICtli day of May, 18S0, the said steam-schooner IThoriitou " was rcgulavly cleared at the port of A'ictoria aforesaid for a full season of ^out four months' fishing and hunting in the Korth Pacific Ocean and Bchring's Sea, id that on or about the 27th day ol" said month of May tlin " Thornton " finally lih.'d IVom Clayoquot Sound, on the south-west of V;iucouvcr Island, on said fisliing id hunting voyage. 5. The master of the " Tiiornton " on and fur said voyairi^ was one Hans ifuttormsen, of the said city of A'ictovia, and thf mato one Harry Norman, of the same [flacc, and a crew of tliirteen men. 0. That on the 1st day of August, a.u. while in Bchring's Sea in north .latitude .'Jo" <15' and west longitude 1GS° ll', la,.iul!y, as I verily believe, pursuing flic objects of said voj\age, the said stcara-schooner '•TJiorrton" was seized by the Jnitod States' steam-ship " Coi-win," and by the " Corwin ' taken to Ounalaska, in the luiled States' Territory of Alaska, and her voyage was broken [i. 7. That on arrival at Ounalaska the said " Thornton " Avas, by order of the United itates' authorities, stripped of her outfit and running gear, the seal-skins i\w on board taken out, the captain and mate made prisoners ajid sent to Sitka, in ^aid territory of Alaska, Avherc, after trial, they were fined, tlie captain in the sum of 500 dollars and the mate in the sum of 300 dollars, and each imprisi-uod for thirty lays. The remainder of the crew, with only two excepted, were sent by rlie United States' authorities to the city of San Erancisco by a steamer belonging to (I \laska commercial Company. 8. That I am informed by Captain Guttormscn that immediately upon arrival at )unalaska of the " Corwin " with the " Thornton." he (the captain) entered his solemn protest against the seizure of his vessel and her outfit and the seal-skins then on board. 9. That on or about the 13th day of July of tlie present year 1 was at )unalaskr, and saw the said sterm-schooncr " Thornton," and found her in a very bad jndition. She was lying on her bilge on a gravel beach, partially embedded, and exposed to all weathers, and was consequently greatly depreciated in value since her ieizun. Her copper is much chafed, her deck seams arc opened, through which (rater had leaked upon the steam-boiler, engine, and machinery, all of which are well 'igh ruined. She cannot be brought away from Ounalaska without repaurs involving ,. ., • «y. 1877. [128] S 2 .Jl.l ■ 132 \ \\ > it! *: ■I:.:, great expense, and not at all before next summer can this be done. I verily beliyve, from the inspection I then made, that it would cost over 6,000 dollars to take the "Thornton" from Ounalaska to Victoria aforesaid, the nearest port at which the repairs could be made, and put her in as good order and condition as she was in when seized. 10. That at the time of her seizure the "Thornton" was in good repair and condition and pertectly seaworthy, excepting only that her mainmast-head bad been carried away during the voyage she then Avas on. 11. That for and during the said voyage the " Thornton " was insured by Lloyd's underwriters in the sum of 1,200/. on the hull and machinery, and in the sum of 1,000/. on the outfit and cargo. 12. That hereto annexed, marked (A), is a detailed Statement of the outfit of '' the " Thornton " for the voyage on which she was seized as above set out, and all of 1 which, excepting only what had been coi^oumed in the regular course of the voyage, Avas on board the " Thornton " at the time of her seizure ; also of the amount of premiums paid by me for insurance upon the hull, machinery, outfit, and cargo of the | " Thornton " during the said voyage, and also for wages paid by me to the buntcre j and crew of the said " Thornton " of said voyage for the time of said voyage up to the said seizure. Also, a Statement of t'le sums paid by me for passage money of tlie j crew from San Francisco to A^ictoria, and passage money and expenses of the captain and mate at and from Sitkr after their release to Victoria aforesaid. 13. That also in said Statement i^A) are charged 403 seal-skins taken fi'om tlie i " Thornton " at the time of seizure, and which, so appears from the Report of the ; officers of the United States' steam-ship " Corwin," submitted to the Coiu't at Sitka on ; the trial of the said captain and mate of the "Thornton," and the price there charged, namely, 7 dollars per skin, was the market value per skin at Victoria aforesaid, on or about the 1st October, a.d. 1880, when the said skins, had not such seizure taken place, would have been placed on the market at Victoria. 14. That the value placed upon the various urtieles and groups of articles in the ;1 outfit mentioned in Exhibit (A) is the actual cost of the said articles at the city of J Victoria aforesaid at the time of their purchase in the spring of 1886, 15. That hereto annexed, marked (B), is a Statement showing the number of seal-skins taken by each one of thirteen sealincr-schooners in and about i Bebrinor's Sea during the season of 1886. Thb said Statement is based upon the ' lleport of the Inspector of Fisheries for the Province of British Colurabia for the year 1S8G, as contained in the lleport of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries for Canada for said year at pp. 243 and 249. The schooners " Carolina," " Onward," and said steam-schooner " Thornton " were seized on the 1st and 2nd August of said year \ when the sealing season was not half over, and the schooners "ilary Taylor,' " Mountain Chief," " Hustler," and " Kate " were not in Behring's Sea during the | season of 18Sfl, so that in calculating the average catch for the Behi'ing's Sea fleet, the j catch of the seven above-mentioned schooners was not included. With one or two | exceptions the thirteen sealing-schooners, mentioned in Exhibit (B), left Behrinu's Sea, or the best fishing grounds therein, long before the end of the said season, as their j masters fearinl seizure by the United States' authorities, and the said average catch, so found by Exhibit (B), is thert>lbre fully 500 less than it otherwise would have I been. 10. That hereto annexed, marked (C), is a Statement of the amount of legal! expenses i)uid and incurred by mo at Sitka and elsewhere, and also of the amount of j my pei-sonal expenses ineuri'ed by reason of the said seizure. 17. That hereto annexed, marked (D), is a Statement showing tlio estimated loss incurred by me as owner of the said " Thornton," by reason of the said seizure and I detention, and of the seizure and detention of the seal-skins then on board " Thornton," and the breaking up of the said sealing voyage. Also, the estimated loss I incurred by me during the present year by reason of the non-release of the " Thornton ;" and in view of the fact that it is now too late to put the " Thornton " in rep vir and con- dition to engage in next year's business, the stimated loss for nc'it year. Andll verily believe that the said estimates of the losses incurred by me by reason of the seizure and detention of the said " Thornton " for the years 1880, 1887, and 1888, are fair and reasonable estimates, and rather under than over the actual losses so sustained 18. That the estimated loss of 5,000 dollars for each of the years 1887 and 1888, by reason of the seizure and detention of the " Thornton," is based upon an average catch of 2,380 seal' skins valued at 5 dol. 50 c. per skin, the market value at Victoria for the present season, deducting from the gross value thereof the cost of outfit 133 lamouut of tho wages of hunters and crcvr, based on the "Thornton's" voyage of 'a.d. 1886. 19. That during and since the year 1886 7 per cent, per annum was, and now is, Ithe minimum rate at which money for ordinary commercial purposes could bo [obtained at the city of Victoria aforesaid, and th^t hereto annexed, marked (E), is an lestimatc of tho iirincipal sums on which interest is claimed at tho rate of 7 per cent. Iper annum, and tho time for wliich it is so claimed. And I, James Douglas Warren aforesaid, make this solemn declaration, conscien- |tiously believing the same to bo true, and by vktue of the Act respecting extra-judicial Daths. Declared and afllrincd before me at tlio city of Ottawa, in the county of Carleton, jthis 25th day of November, a.d. 1887, and certified under my official seal. (Signed) J. D. WARREN. (Seal.) (Signed) D. B. MacTavisu, Notary Public. ig's Sea fleet, f! Exhibit (A). Viiluc of stcam-scbooiier " Thornton " at time of seizure by United States' stcam-sbip " Corwin " . . Value of " Thornton's " outfit- Groceries . . . . . . Ammunition . . . . . . Dry goods . . . , . . Iron water tanks . . . . Ship chandlery fur sealing purposes Ouo chrouometer . . . . Extra suit of new sails ,. .. Seven No. 10 shot guns . . . . Five riHes . . . . . . Gun implements and tools . . . . . . . . Four new scaling boats and sails . , . . . . . , Water casks .. .. .. .. .. .. 6 tons salt ,. ., .. ,. ,. ., 18 tons coal .. .. ., .. ,. .. Cooking range and utensils . . . . . . , , Total outfit.. Insurance- Premium on 1,200/. — insurance on hull, lOU. 4«. . . .. Premium on 1,000/. — insurance on outfit and corgo, 20/. 3s. 4rf. , Wages paid hunters and crew up to time of seizure, hunters and crew having been taken to San Francisco by United States' authorities Passage money thence to Victoria . . , , , . Passaijo money and expenses of Captain Guttormsen and in.\te, Harry Norman, after release from Sitka to Victoria . . 403 seol-skins on board the "Thornton" at the time of sei«ure, at 7 dollars per skin .. .. .. ., amount of legal sf tho amount o! Total Total of Exhibit (A) (Signed) Dol, e. Dol. c. 1 • • 6,000 00 533 37 340 26 49 88 •0 00 278 64 81 45 307 18 248 00 125 96 23 20 612 70 25 00 90 00 126 00 SO 00 ■• 2,911 64 492 83 98 60 591 43 1,370 00 177 16 200 00 2,821 00 • • 4,568 16 14,101 23 D. B. MaoTAVISH, Notary Public. /\. ii i i 1 ■ ^ 1: ' t' ■ ■! ■ I m i, 1J^ I jfl n f n * 1^ ■SI 11 134 Exhibit (B). — Ntthbes of seals token by the following thirteen sealing schooners during the year 1886 in and about the Behring's Sea, most of tho thirteen! <"> - leaving the sea before the end of the season, fearing capture. Schooners — Pathfinder . . Mnry Kllen . . Theresa . . Favorite .• Blnck Diamond Alfred Adams, . Active City of Santiogo Silvia Handy . . Dolphin . . Anna Ucck . . •^race . . baynard No. of Seals. 1,766 4,256 2,625 .■3,325 1,760 2,465 2,276 1,620 1,587 2,601 1,400 2,550 2,725 Total catch G0,9S5 Average per vessel (Signed) 2,381 D. B. MacTAVISH, Notary Public. Exhibit (C). Dol. e. Lcp;al expenses at Sitka in connection with seizure of " Thornton " . . 500 00 Counsel and other legal fees and expenses in and about tho cl.ilms arising from said seizure ,. .. .. .. .. .. 750 00 Travelling, hotel, and other necessary expenses in connection with said seizure and claims .. ,. .. .. .. ,. 1.000 00 Grand total. Exhibit (C) (Signed) .. 2,250 00 D. B. MAcTAVISn, Notary Public. Exhibit (D). — Da^iages arising from the seizure and detention of the " Thornton." based upon the avorasc catch of soal-skins per season as given in Statement (1! , }■'■'' season ol; 1880. Ik;.. Estimated average catch . . . . . . Less 103 sliiiis on board the " Thornton " at tho time of seizure, and charged in Statement (.V) . . . . liulancc, at 7 dollars per bkiu . . Kcasonabli' and ])robablo profit " Thornton" would have earned in 1887 i'ur owner .. .. .. ., ,, Iii'^view of fact that '• Thornton " onnnot ho made available for next year's operations, rtasonablo and probable profit for iOoO «■ a« a* •« •• •• No. Dol. c. 2,681 403 1,973 = 13,81(i 00 • • 5,000 00 • • 5,000 00 Total amount, Exhibit (D) . . (Sigacd) 23,810 00 D. B. MAoTAVlSn, Notary Public. 185 sealing schooners t of the thirteen! No. of Seals. 1,760 4,256 2,625 3,325 1,760 2,465 2,275 1,620 1,587 2,601 1,400 2,550 2,725 30,955 2,381 [, Notary Public. Summary of Exhibits. Dol. o. Value of " Thornton " .. .. .. .. .. 6,000 00 ■"alue of " Thornton's " outfit .. .. .. .. 3,633 07 Wages of crew and hunters . . . . . . ^ • • 1,370 00 Passage money and expenses of oiRccrii and crew in returning to Victoria 403 seal-skins, ut 7 dollars Total, Exhibit (A) Personal expenses of owner . . . . • • • • Legal expenses . .. •• •. •• •• Total, Exhibit (C) Balanec on estimated seal catch for 1886 .. •• .. Estimated loss to owner by detention of the "Thornton" during 18S7 .. .. i. •• •• Estimated loss on same grounds for 1888 .. .. .. Total, Exhibit (D) Total amount of claim . . • • . . Dd. 377 16 2,821 00 14,101 23 1,000 00 1,250 00 13,846 06 5,000 00 5,000 00 2,250 00 23,846 00 40,197 23 Dol. c. 500 00 750 00 1 , 1,000 00 . 2,250 00 [, Notary Public tho "Thornton" ill Statement (B Dol. c. Memorandum, If tho owner of the " Thornton " ia indemiufied for balance of estimated seal , Jitch for year 1S86, there should he deducted fioiu ^he total claim tho sum of ^79 dol. 58 c. included in Exhibit (A) for outfit, which would necessarily have been consumed in the prosecution of the voyage, and including the sum of 1,370 dollars uid in wages, as per Exhibit (F). Total claim .. .. .. .. ,. .. .. 40,197 23 Value consumed on voyage . . , . . . . . . . 3,379 58 Ncteloim .. .. .. .. .. 36,817 65 (Signed) D. B. MacTAYISB., Notary Public. !)■ -. 13,81« 00 5,000 00 5,000 00 23,810 00 I, Notary Puhlic. Sxhibit (E). — Estimate of the principal sums on which interest at 7 per cent, per annum is claimed, and the time for which interest is so claimed. Dol. c. Voluo of « Thornton's " cstimoted full catch for 1886, namely, 2,381 skins, at 7 dollars per skin, rrom the 1st October. 1886, when the catch would have been realized on . . . . . . . . . , 16,067 00 Actual cash outlay for legal and other necessary i ipenscs incurred by reason of tho seizure before tho 1st October, 1886 . . . . . . 500 00 Total principal on which interest is claimed since the 1st October, 1886, to date of payment of claim .. .. .. .. .. i7,167 00 Estimated valuo of tho "Thornton " catch for 1887, less cost of outfit and wages of crew and hunters, on which interest at 7 per cent, per ai""-"! is claimed from the 1st October, 1887, on or about which datt .^o catch would be realized on, to dato of payment . . . . . . 5,000 00 If the claim for 1887 be not allowed, then interest is claimed on tho value of the " Thornton " at 7 per cent, per annum from the 1st October, A.B. 1886, to time of payment.. .. ., ., .. 6,000 00 (Signed) D. B. MaoTAVISH, Notary Publii ■ y ■ i'f". Ill ;iv..i. ;■*?«; >1 n'iT).l5«tt .lisjiwij ' t'l' i' !■ ni' M I: 13G Exhibit (F).— Details of items of "Tliornton's " outfit consumed during the course of full sealing and fishing voyage. Groceries ,. Ammunition .. .. Dry goods Ship chantlclry . . . . Insurance premiums , . Wages of crew anil hunters 6 tons salt 18 tons coal .. Items. Do). c. S33 37 340 26 49 8tt 278 04 S'Jl 43 1.370 00 90 00 120 00 Total value consumed (Signed) ■ • •• •. 3.870 58 1). B. MacTAVISH, Notanj Public. No. 88. Sir L. West to the Marquiu of Salisburij. — (Received January IG.) My Lord, Washington, January 5, 1888, WITH reference to my despatclies of the 2nd April last and of the 6tii May, 1 have the honour to inform your Lordship that I am advised that the case of the American sealing-schooner " Sierra " will probably be dismissed, on the ground that the Captain of the Revenue cruizer was acting under the instructions of the Government, and that tlie plaintiff therefore would have to apply to Congress. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. No. 89. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received January 1 6.) Sir, Downing Street, January 14, 1888. WITH reference to the letter from this Department of the 26th ultimo, relating to the seizure of Canadian sealing-schooners in Behring's Sea, I am directed by Secretary Sir Henry Holland to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Sahsbury, a copy of a despatch from tiie Governor-General of Canada, inclosing an approved Report of a Committee of his Privy Council, submitting a revised statement of the loss sustained in the case of the schooner " Onward." I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosure 1 in No. 89. The Marquis of Lansdowne to Sir H. Holland. Sir, Government House, Ottawa, December 23, 1887. WITH reference to your despatch of the 14th September last, directing attention to the magnitude of the claims for compensation prepared by the owners of the British sealing-vessels seized in Behring's Sea by United States' Revenue cruizers, and to my despatch of the 2nd instant, I have the honour to forward herewith, for transmission to the United States' Government, a copy of an approved Report of a Committee of the Privy Council, submitting a revised statement of tlie loss sustained in the case of the schooner " Onward." You will observe that my Minister of Marine and Fisheries considers that the claim now made is not unreasonable. • • • . I have, &c. (Signed) LANSDOWNE. Inclosure 2 in No. 89. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council for Canada, approved by his Excellency the Govtmw-General in Council, December 20, 1887. THE Committee of the Privy Council have had under consideration a despatch, dated I the 14th September, 1887, from the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the] Colonies, on the subject of the seizure of British sealing-vessels in Behring's Sea by United j States' Revenue cruizers, and directing attention to certain claims for compensation against the United States' Government. M gL< ag the course oE I)ol. Q. 533 37 340 20 49 88 278 G4 5'Jl 43 1.370 CO 90 00 12C 00 3,379 58 Notary Public. IG.) nuary 5, 1888. 6tli May, 1 liavc if tlie American it the Captain of nt, and that the ILLE WEST. uary 14, 1888. Itimo, relating to . by Secretary Sir ibury, a copy of a fed Report of a } sustained in the BRAMSTON. mber 23, 1887. :ting attention (o rs of the British lizers, and to ray for transmission Committee of the ti tlie case of tlic ers.that the chim ANSDOWiNE. approved by his 887. a despatch, dated of State for the g's Sea by United ! ipensation against :Sm m The Minister of Marine and Pibheiics. to whom the despatch and inclosurcs wer {referred, stales tliut the chiinis (tlircc in number") referred to in this despatch were .sent [back to tlie owners of the vessels for rcvi>ii)n. In the wises of two of tliese, the "Thornton" and "Carohna," a full and dctuilod nvised statement of the losses has [already been submitted, and he (the Minister) submits iierokvith a revised stiitonu-nt of the [loss to the owners of the g('!)0()nei' "()nwai'd"on aceonnl ul the seizure of said vessel. [This claim the Minister consider.s to hi. a reasonable one. The Committee recommend tiiat your K.xcellency 'jc moved to forward the cliiini {herein mentioned to the Rigiit Honourable the Secretary of State lor tiie Colonies for transmission to the United States' Government. All which is respectfully submitted for your Ivxcellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council, Canada. Inclosure 3 in No. 89. Declaration of James Douglas Warren. 3ity of Ottawa, Province of Ontario, Dominion of Canada. 1, JAMES DOUGLAS WARREN, of the city of Victoria, in tlie Province of British Columbia of the Dominion of Canada, master ma iner and ship-owner, do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows : — , 1. That I am the duly authorized agent of Charles Spring, merchant, of the said city of Victoria, and owner of the hereinafter-mentioned schooner " Onward." 2. That the said schooner " Onward " is a British vessel of about 94 tons burden, .builder's measurement, and at the time of her seizure, as hereinafter set out, was, and now yje, registered at the port of Victoria aforesaid. V .3. That about the 10th day of June, a.d. 1886, the said schooner " Onward " sailed from the west coast of Vancouver Island, having previously cleared at the port of Victoria Iforesaid, on and for a full-season hunting and fishing voyage in the North Pacific Ocean ijl^d Behring's Sea. 4. That on and for said voyage the crew of the " Onward " consisted of Daniel lonroe, of Victoria aforesaid, master; John Margotich, of the same place, nuite; and »enty sailors and hunters; all of whom were on board the " Onward" at the time of her eizure hereinafter mentioned. i 5. That on the morning of the 2nd August, a.d. 1886, while in said Behring's Sea, in jBorth latitude 54° 32' and west longitude 167° 55', and about 68 miles from Ounalaska Jsland, the nearest land, lawfully, as 1 verily believe, pursuing the objects of her said ■voyage, the "Onward" was seized by the United States' steam-ship "Corwin," and taken in tow of said " Corwin " to Ounalaska, in the Territory of Alaska, of the United States of ;America, having then on board 400 seal-skins. 6. That upon the said "Corwin's" arrival at Ounalaska aforesaid with the said I* Onward," the "Onward" was, by order of the United States' authorities thereat, s.ripped pf her sails and outfit, the skins on board taken out, her master, the said Daniel Monroe, and mate, the said John Margotich, placed under arrest, and her voyage completely broken up. f 7. That the said master and mate, Daniel Monroe and John Margotich, were by the laid United States' authorities taken to Siliia, in the said Territory of Alaska, there to be tried on a charge of having violated the laws of the United States respecting seal fishing in the waters of Alaska. On arrival at Sitka tlie said master and mate were bound over to appear for trial on said charge, and were on or about the 1st of tiie month of September followmg so tried, found guilty, and sentenced— the master, D' nicl Monroe, to jiay a tine _3f 500 dollars, the mate, John Margotich, to pay a tine of 300 dollars, and each to be imprisoned for the space of thirty days, which imprisonment thev suflercd. [ ^8. That hereto annexed, marked " (A)," is a statement of the articles comprising the out 'It of the "Onward" at the time of her departure on said voyage, and the value [thereof, all of which were on board the " Onward " at the time of her said seizure, excepting only what had been consumed in the ordinary course and prosecution of the foyage ; also of the amount paid for insurance on said voyage, also the amount of wao-es paid the crew and hunters on said voyage also the anio.uut paid for fines and expenscs°of *e master and mate in returning to Victoria from Sitka after their release, and also of the lumber and value of the seal-skins on board the " Onward " at the time of her seizure ad which were taken from the "Onward" at Ounalaska by the United lutnonties. States ^■nSai**^^ P'"'^^^ charged for the various articles and groups of articles comprising |_12oJ m ■" 138 1 i5 i :;i; (h(i outfit of the "Onward " on and for said voyage are the regular market prices of the ^md articles at Victoria aforesaid at the time of Iheir purchase for use on said voynse. The price charged in said statement for the seal-skins on hoard the " Onward " when seized, namely, 7 dollars per skin, was the market price per skin at Victoria aCorcsuid m fhe close of the scaling season of 1880, when tl\c catch of the "Onward," had not such ffeiznre taken place, would have heen placed on the market. 10. That the value of the schooner " Onward," as given in Exhihit (A), niinulv, 4,000 dollars, is a fair and reasonahle value for the said schooner at the time of licr seizure ; she was then, and had always heen, kept in first class order and condition, nnd was always a staunch, seaworthy vessel, and for the said voyage had heen rcritted with new sails and sailing gear. 1 1 . That hereto annexed, marked " B," is a statement of the catch of thirteen staiinL'- vessels, in and ahout Bchring's Sea, during the season of 188() ; the said slatenicut is compiled from the Report of the Inspector of Fisheries for the Province <tf Jiijtish Cohmibia for the year 18S0, as contained in the Report of the Department of Kishi'rits for Canada for tliat year at pp. 248 and 249, and from personal knowledge of tlie fuels therein set out, I verily believe the said statement to be substantially true and correct. The steam-achooner "Thornton," the schooners "Carolena" and "Onward,'' meaning the "Onward" herein mentioned, were seized on the 1st and 2nd August, 1880, in Belirinj;'.; Sea, at the beginning of the best sealing period ; and the schooners " INIary Taylor," " A!ountain Chief," "Rustler," and "Kate" were not in Behring's Sea during the season of 1886, so in estimating the average catch per vessel in Behring's Sea for 1880, tiie catch of the above-named seven vessels is not included in Exhibit (B) ; all of the thirteen vessels named in Exhibit (B), with only one or two exceptions, left Bchrinij's Sea long before the end of the sealing season of 1886, because of the seizures which had heen made by the United States' steam-ship "Corwin," fearing to remain lest they also should be seized ; by reason of such departure from the said sea, or the best sealing grouiul^ therein, before the close of the season, I veriiy believe that the catch per vessel, as found in Exhibit (B), namely, 2,381 seal-skins, is fully 500 less than it would have been had the said vessels remained the full season in said sea. 1'-. That hereto annexed, marked " (C)," is a statement of the legal expenses incurred at Sitka and eisewhere by reason of the said seizme of the "Onward," the arrest liiwl imprisonment of the said master and mate, and the claims arising therefrom, and also of the personal expenses of the said owner and said agent in the same connection. 13. That the Exhibit (D), hereto annexed, is a statement of the estimated loss iind damage resulting to the owner of the " Onward " by reason of her seizure and detention in A.D. 1880, A.I). 1887, and a.d. 1888. The estimated loss for the year 1886 is based upon the average catch per vessel, as found in Exhibit (B), less the number of skins on hoard the " Onward " when seized, the balance being valued at 7 dollars per skin, the price per skin at Victoria iit the close of the'season 1880. The claim for a.d. 1887 ;ind A.D. 1888 is based upon the same average catch as for a.d. 1886, valued at .")dol. 50 c. ])C!r skin, which was the market value per skin <it Victoria aforesaid at the close of the season 1887, after deducting therefrom the cost of outfit and wages of crew and hunters for each year, based on the " Onward's " said voyage of a.d. 1880. The said claim of 5,000 dollais for each of said years a.d. 1887 and a.d. 1888 is a fair and reasonable estimate of the earnings of the " Onward " in hunting and fishing for the said years. 14. That E.\hibit (E), hereto annexed, is a statement of the principal sums on which interest at 7 per cent, per annum is claimed, and the time for which said interest is so claimed. At the time when the catch of the " Onward " for 1880 would have, in tlie ordinary course of events, been realized on, namely, on or about the 1st October in said year, the minimum rate of interest on money for commercial purposes was, has since continued to be, and now is, 7 per cent, per annum. 15. That hereto annexed, marked "(F)," is a statement of the articles, and the value thereof, as given in Exhibit (A) of the " Onward's " outfit on said voyage of 1880, including insurance ])rcmiums and wages, which would necessarily be wholly, or almost wliolly, consumed in the course of a full season's hunting and fishing, such as contemplated bv the "Onward" in 1880. 16. That on fhe i3th day of July last past I was at Ounalaska aforesaid, and w.i< then on board of the said schooner " Onward." She was then lying side-to on a gravel beach, in the harbour at Ounalaska, partially embedded in the gravel, and generally in a very bad condition. Her standing rigging was much weather-beaten, also her deck and side-seams were in a very bad state, t' long exposure and severe frosts of the previous winter having broken out the pitch, and, judging from their appearance, they were very leaky From what 1 then saw of the condition of the " Onward," I verily believe that she could ict prices (It' the on said voviijc Onward " when toriii iilbrpsiiiii at d," iiad not such hit (A), nnniciv, tlic time ol hor d condition, ;iii(J ;en retitted with ' tliirtccn scaljn.;. mid slatcnuMit i< vini'c of Jiiitisli iCMit of Fisiu'rif, ;(lge of the facts ;rue and correct. rd,'* nieaninL'- ihc 180, in Belniiii;'s " Mary Taylor," urin^ tlie scuson .-a for 188U, tlie (B) ; all of the ns, left Bi'liriii;''.. iziircs whicli liad lin lest they also t sealing grouiul> r vessel, as found (1 have been had expenses incurred ," the arrest iiiid Iron), and also of ction. iimated loss and .re and deteiiliun ar 1886 is bibcd jiher of skins on irs per skin, tin or A.n. 1887 and ') dol. ;J0 c. per ose of the season hunters for uacl; 1 of 5,000 dollars estimate of the 1 sums on wliich aid interest is so uld have, in the t October in said was, has since es, and the value f 1880, incliKlin: almost wliolly, templated by the orcsaid, and w;i< le-to on a p;riivcl nd generally in a 50 her deck and of the previous y were very leaky e that she could 190 Inot be floatdl and put in n fit stale fo|; sqa without extensive rP|)airs, which at Ounalasku, Iwhere there is neither the requisite workmen nor material, would involve very large lexpenditure, and that to float the said " Onward," take her to Victoria aforesaid, the {nearest port where the requisite facilities exist, and where she could be repaired and Irefittcd at least cost, and there repair and refit her, would cost at least 1,500 dollars. I And I, Douglas Warren aforesaid, make this solemn declarotion, conscientiously Ibeiievin" the same to be true, and by virtue of the "Act respecting Extra-judicial lOaths."" (Signed) J. D. WARREN. I Declared and affirmed before me at the city of Ottawa, in the County of Curletou, in Ihe Province of Ontario, this 9th day of December, A.n. 1887, and certified under my t)flicial seal. (Signed) D. O'Connoii, Notary Public for Ontario. ■ Exhibit (A). Dol. e. Viiluc of tlie .schooner " Oiiwnrd ' iit the lime of Iier seizure .. Outfit— . . (jioccric.i .. .. •• .• •• .. '1.0 r(l Aiuniunitiou .. .. .• ■. •• 19 07 Dry goods .. .. .. .. •• •• '.'^ t'' Sliij) cliauillery .. .. .. .. •• -Jl ^^ Four sliot Kuus ,, .. .. .. .. 01 0(t Tlirec iron wiitcr-tanks . . . . . . ■ . 57 00 Fourteen waler-piisks.. •• .. .. •• 'il 00 Xino canoes and outfit • . . • . . • • '' *'' ''^ Salt .. .. .. .. .. •• -'■'2 57 Coal 13 ao Cooking stove and utensils . . . . . . . . .JG C.T Clirononieter, sextant, and two flags .. .. .. 140 00 Three extra coraijasscs . . . . . . . . -■! 00 Sundries . . . . . . . . • • • • 07 58 Insurance premium and survey on hull . . Wages paid to hunters and crew for voyage . . Fines and expenses of captain and mate liom Sitka to Victoria after release. 400 scal-skius on board, at 7 dollars per skiu. . Uol. c. 4,000 00 1,778 09 260 00 1,8^0 00 200 00 2,800 00 (Signed) Total, Exhibit (A) . , .. .. (Signed) D, O'CoNNOK, Notary Public. .. 10,858 69 J. D. WARREN. Sxhibit (B). — Number of Seal-skins taken by each of the following thirteen Scaling-vessels during the j'car 1886, in and about the Behring's Sea, most of the said vessels leaving the Sea before the end of the said Season fearing seizure : — Vessels. Pathfinder Mary Kllen Theresa . . Favorite , . Black Diamond Alfred Adams Active City of Santiago Silvia Handy Dolphin . . Anna Deck Grace . . W. P. Sayward Seal-skins. Total catch Average per vessel 1,760 4,256 2,625 2,325 1,700 2,465 2,275 1,620 1,587 2,601 1,400 2,550 2,725 30,955 2,381 (Signed) [128] (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public. J. D. WARREN. I TW' \m\ no Exhibit (C). Legal exiic'imrii ,it flitlin in oonncclion with tlic loiiurn of tho " Onwnrd " .. Counsel iiimI other legal feci and cx|M!iiiicii in and ubout the leiziiru of the "Onward," and the elainin nrinin); thereunder, exriusivc of thu above AOO dollnri .• .. .. .. .. ,, ., Perioinl expences other than the above In the Mime eonnection . , , , Dol. c. SOO 00 7/10 00 2S0 00 (Signc(l) Tot^d . . . , . . , . , (Signctl) D, O'Connor, Notary Publir. ., l/jOO 00 J. U. WARllKN. Exhibit (I)). — EsTiMATKn Dninages orising iVom the Scizuie and Detention of the Schooner "Onward," bused on the aveiaj'c (,'atcli per Vessel f'oi* 188G, as irivoi in Exhibit (B). Dol, c. Average call li seul .. ., ,, ,. .. 2,381 liTH nnmbrr on board ut leiziue, and chnvj^ed in KNhibit(A).. 100 Oaliineo, nt 7 dollari) per nkin Heiisoiiable iiiiil |)rolml))o profit On i)|)eriitinn» fur llic jenr 1HS7 "Onwiird" not bcinu released, and not nv;iilnlile to en};aj;e in next year's npenitioiis, reusonnblo and probable profit for 18HS . . 1,981 = 13,867 no .'..flOO 00 5,000 00 (Signed) Total, Kxbibit (D) .. (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public. •JI),H«7 00 J. D. WARKKN. Exliibit (E). — EsTiMATK of the Principal Sums on which Interest at 7 per cent, pci annuiii is claimed, and the Time for wliicli interest is so claimed. Dol. e. Value of the "Onward's" pstiniatcd culeli for 18H(!, namely, 2,3S1 sUina, at 7 ilollars per wl.in, from the 1st day of October, A. I). 1880, when '.lie eatch would hive been reallnfd on ,. .. .. .. 10,0(17 00 Aetual outlay for leftnl ,ii\(l other iieeessary expenses incurred by reason of thi! seizure of the " Onward " lielore the Ist October, 1880 , . . . TjOO 00 Total principid on wliifth interest is elaimOd from October A.l> 188G, to date of payment of claim ,, ., .. ., .. .. 17,107 00 Kstimatcd value of " Onwnrd's " catch for 1887 (less cost of outfit and w:iij;es of crew and hunters) r)u which interest at 7 per cent. |ier annum is elainu'd 1Vom\ the Ist October, A.K. 1887, on or about which date the catch would be realized on, to (late of paynu'nt . , . . .5,000 (10 If claim for 1887 be not allowed, then interest is claimed on the value of the " t)award " from t'.iu l.si October, a.d. 188(1, to date of payment . . 4,000 00 (Signed) J. D. WARRICX. (Signed) I). O'Connor, Notary Public. Exliil)it (K). --Value of Articles of "Onward's" Outtit, which would have been wholly or ahi.ost wholly consumed on a full Iliintiug and Fishiiii^ Trip. Groceries .. .. Amuiuiiitiou .. .. ., ,. ,, ., Dry f;oods Ship eliaiullcrv ., ,. ., ,. .. Salt .. " .. f'nal W'aj^s . . Insuiauce premiums Total consumption duvinj; voyage. . (Signed) (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public. Meirio. If the full claim for the sealing season of 1886, as set out in Exhibit (B), be allowed, then the amount of this Exhibit, 2,955 dol. 98 c. will properly appear ;is a credit, and be deducted from the total of Exhibit (A), of which it forms part. Dol. c. 470 70 19 07 68 25 251 50 52 57 13 80 1,8'iO 00 200 00 , , 2,055 98 J. D. WARRKX Dol. c, SOO 00 7flO 00 250 00 000 0(1 WAIUIKN. tention of the ?G, as given in )<)1. e. 141 No. 90. Colonial Office to Foreiijn Office.— {Received January 23.) I gjf Downing Sir-el, January 23, 1888. I AVI directed by the Secretary of State for the Colonies to transmit to you, to be laid before the \Iar(|ui9 of Salisbury, witli reterence to previous correspondence, copies of two dcspatciies from the Governor-General of Ciniada, forwardinu; stHtcments of claims for losses sustiiincd by certain Mritish vessels engaged in the Hebrinir's Pea se.il tisbcry. I am to recpiest that llioe claims -nay be presented to the United States' Government should l.ord Salisbury sec no olijectioi. thereto. I am to request Vbiit the sub-inclosures in these despatches, whicii !nv sent in oriijinal, [may be rtturncd. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. 867 no 000 00 000 00 HOT 00 WARllKN. )er id. cent. per ol. c. i«7 00 500 00 Ifi" 00 100 00 100 00 ^ WARRIA". e been wiioli )ol. p. 70 70 19 07 ()8 2,'j 51 5!) 62 67 13 80 20 00 00 00 55 98 WARRKN. xbibit (B), be y appear as a Sir, Inclosurc 1 in No. 00. The ^farl^uill of Lmmdoirne to Sir II. Holland. Government House, Ottaira, January 4, 1888. I HAVE tl e liotiDur to transmit to you, for i)resc!itation to the United States* 'Government, a copy of an approved Minute of tiie Frivy Council of Canada, submitting a detailed statement" of tlic claim of the owner and agent of the schooner "Favorite," which vessel was, on the "Jnd August, 1^S6, while scaling in Behring's Sea, about (jS miles from land, ordered by the United States' steamer "Corwin," under threat of seizure, to .cease operations and leave the Behring's Sea forthwith. You will observe tliat the circumstances connected with this claim differ from all the others, inasmuch as no a -tual seizure was effected, but my Minister of Marine and Fisheries considers that the elal.i. or loss of the fishing season is not unreasonable. I have, &c. (Signed) LANSDOWNE, Inclosurc 2 in No. 90. Krporl of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council for Canada, approved by hit Excellency the Governor -General in Council on the '30th December, 1887. ON a Ref it dated the I9tb December, 1SS7, from the Minister of Marine and [Fisheries, submitting a detailed statement of the claim of the owner and agent of the i schooner " Favorite," which vessel was, on the 'Jm\ day of August, 1886, while sealing in the Bcbring'; Sea. not far from where the schooner " Onward" was seized the same day, viz., north latitude ,14° 32', west longitude 107° ■')5', about (i8 miles from land, ordered by 'the United States' steamer " Corwin," under threat of seizure, to cease operations and leave the IJchriiig's Sea forthwith. 'riie Minister represents that the circumstances connected with this claim differ i*rom all the others, inasnmch as no actual seizure was effected, but the Minister believes the claim for loss of the fishing season to be reasonable. The Minister recommends that it be forwarded to Iler Majesty's Government for presentation to the Government of the United States. Tiie Committee advise that your K.\cellency be moved to forward the claim herein mentioned to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for transmis- sion to the United States' Government. Ail which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. Inclosurc 3 in No. 90. Declaration of James Douglas Warren. City of Ottawa, Province of Ontario, Dominion of Canada. I, JAMES DOUGLAS WARREN, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia of the Dominion of Canada, master mariner and ship-owner, do solemnly and bincciely declare as follows: — : 1 If ill n V i:: I ! ,■ 1 ! :i ' . , i! ' ?' Ml 1 i 142 1. I am the duly authorized ag^nt of Charles Sprir.,':, merchant, of Victoria aforesaid the owner of the hereinafter mentio'.ed schooner " Fa\'oriti;." 2. Tiiat the schconcr " Favo, ite " herein referred to is a British vessel of 80 tons, registered at the port of Victori-. .liorcsaid, and was so registered at tlic^ time of tlit occurrence hereinafter set out, namely, on the 1st and l*nd days of August, a.d. 1886. 3. That towards the end of the niontli of May a.d. IbSG, after havinu; bei-n (hdy cleared at the port of Victoria aforesaid, for tiiat purpose, the said schooner " Favorite" sailed on and for a full season's hunting and fishing in the North Pacitic Oeeau and liehring's Sea. 4. Tiiat on and for said voyage the crew of the said "Favorite" consisted of Alexander McLean, of Victoria aforesaid, master, a mate, and twenty-tlir^e sailors and hunters, and completely equipped and provisioned for a full season of hunting and fisiiiiii.- in said waters. 5. I am informed by the said master of the "Favorite," and several of the crew of the "Favorite," and do .verily believe, that on tlie night of the 1st Auirust, or early morning of the 2iid August, a.d. 188(J, tiie said "Favorite, while in the iJehring's Sen, not far irom where tiie schooner '' Onward " was seized on the said morning of f ho 2nJ August, 18S(), and while lawfully pursuing tlie objects of said voyage, was hailed by United States' stcam-siiip "Corwin," then liaving in tow the seized vessels " Thornton " ar.d " Carolena." -•^■ter the usual inquiries as to the name of the vessel, the Commander or officer then in <;hargc of the said " Corwin " ordered the " Favorite " to cease sealing and leave IJeliiing's Sea forthwith, otherwise she would be seized, or words to that eflect. The master of the "Favorite," not v.isliing to risk seizure, !■ ' iearing that ii he remained in the said sea his vessel and cargo would he so seized as threatened by llic Commander of the; " Corwin," and for no other reason or /eascns whatever, at once madu all sail and left tiie said icalinc: jri'onnds, Liierebv losing the remainder of the seaiin;; season. 6. Tiiat by reason of so being forced to cease sealing and leave Behring's Sea at about the beginning of tiie !)est period of the scaling season, the "'Favorite" lost at least 1,000 seal-skins, and her total catch for tlie season was reduced by that much. 7. I'hat on said voya',e the "Favorite" carried twenty hunters and ten canoes, 'i'lic schooner " iMary Ellen," of Victoria aforesaid, on a similar voyage the same season, with fifteen liuutms afid five sealing-boats, not scei'ig or hearing of the said seizure?, and remaining in the sea till oi" abotU the elose of the sealing season, caught 4,-.Vi seal-skins. The actual eatcli of the "' Favorite " for said season was only Ji.Ji'Jo, tiu)U;;!i she had one-tlnid more hmiters than tlie said "Alary Ellen," and equally as good, if iioi better, chances of obtaining as large a eatcli ; and I verily believe that the sum oi' tliu aet'iai caicii of the " Favorite," togethe: witli the 1.000 herein claimed, making a totnl of 4,'3-5 for the scaj-on of 188(5, is a fair and reasonable estimate for the catch of tlie "Favorite" that year, had she had not lieeu interfered with as above set out. 8. That the market price per seal-skin at Victoria at the close of the s( ason of 188(i was 7 dollars and the amount claimed as the value of \,d{)0 .-^kiiis lost to the owner of the "Favorite" ly reason of her so leaving the Beiiring's Sea is 7,000 dollars. And f, .Jar.ies Douglas Warren aloresaid, make this soktiMi deekiratiou, coii- f.cieiitiously believing the same to bo true, and by virtue <l the " ^\ct respecting E,\tra-judicial Oaths." (Signed) J. D. WARREN. Dtckired and atlirmcd before me at the city of Ottawa, m the County of Carleton, in the Province of Ontario, this Dth (h;y of i\'eember, a.d. \'~'H7. and certified n.iKler my official seal. (Signed) D. O'CoNNOlt, Xolarii PttUicfor Ontario. inclosure 4 in No. i)0. The Marqid.s of Lamdowne to Sir II. Holland. i ?fn Sir, Govemmpnt Home, Otlaint, Jaiiiniri/ '>, 18~8. WITIT refei'cncc to previous correspondence, I liiae the hono'.n- io loi \v;.'(l herewitli a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council o( Canada, embodying a He|iort of my Minister of Marine and Fisheries, submitting detailed statements of the claims of tin' owners and agents of the " \V. P. Sayward," " (J race," "Anna Beck," " Dolpliin." " Alfred Adams." and "Ada," seized in tlic Behriiig's Sea during the present season for tlu f'.,.ged offence of illegally capturing seids. 2toria aforesaid, iscl of 80 tons, ho time of the A.n. 1886. rjti duly cleared Dcitc " sailed oa Mchrinjj's Sea. '." consisted of rfe sailors and ti'.ig and fisliiiiL; I of llic crew i,| Ui'^iist, or early ! JJelii'ing's Sen, iiorning of 11k' 2, was hailed by ih "'flioriitciii" the Conimandt'i' )iite" to ceasL' Ed, or words t;i ' feaiin;; that ii reatened by liin r, at oneo iiiadu of the sealing; g's Sea at about ,t at least 1,0(10 in eanocs. The e same season, c said seiznies. , caught 4,2.')'i • ;i,325, thoiiuii as iiood, if mil the sum of tiie making a totiil le catch of the ason of 188(1 le owner of the elaralion, con- Act rcspcciinji WARREN. iVarleton, in itied luider mv Do! |i!un. 143 Tiie Minister, you will observe, is of opinion that the claims submitted are reasonable, and recomtrends that they be presented to the United States' Government. (Signed) I have, &c. LANSDOWNE. (iri) C), 18?8. •\v;.vd iierewitli Hcport uf my claims of llii' Inclosnre 5 in No. 00. lieporf of a Commlitee of the Honourable the Prmj CoiDicil for Canada, approved by his krrillcnri/ the Governor-General in Council on the SOtli December, 1887. 1 ON a r.eport dated the inth December, 1887, from the Minister of Marino and Fi-^heries, suomittinii detailed statements of the claims of the owners and agents of the following vessels seized in tiie ik-hring's Sea during the present season by United States' I revenne'ves,els, for the alleged offence of illegally capturing seals :-.,,„ ^ „ I 1. Schooner " W. P. Say ward," seized the 9th July, 1887, latitude 54 43 north, 'longitude 167" al' west, !j8 miles from nearcsUand; ^ 2. Steam-schooner "Grace," seized the 17th July, i887, latitude oJ 3 north, M longitude 1G&" 40' west, '.)2 miles from nearest land ; 3. Schooner "Anna Beck," seized the 2nd July, 1887, latitude 54' 58 north, longitude 1()7" '2G' west, 06 miles from nearest land; _ 4. Steam-schooner '-Dolphin," feized the 12th July, 1887, latitude 54, 38 north, ' longitude \(u° i' west, 42 miles from nearest land ; . , . .„ o, , J ■ :'). Schooner " Alfred Adams," seized the 6th August, 1887, latitude i)4" 48 north, longitude 1G7° 4'.)' west, 62 miles from nearest land ; ' (i. Schooner "Ada," seized the 25th August, 1887, about 15 miles northward /^froiii Ounalaska Island, which was the nearest land ; ■ 'riio Minister rcprcsenu; that the circumstances connected with the seizure of these '••-sselsdo not materially differ from those attending the seizures of 1886, and for which faims for tlie losses sustained ha\o already been forwarded to Ilcr Majesty's Government, r preseni ation to the Government of the United States. i'A It may, however, be maintnlned that the injustice of th3 seizures made in 1887 is ipniphasized by the action of the United .States' Government in ordering the release of the i^essels seized in 1886, and tlius leading owners of the vessels for which claims are now ■^presented to fairly assume that, under similar circumstances, no further seizures of ,lJ^Caniuiian vessels in Bchring's Sea would be effected by the United States' Government. 'M The 3Iinister believes that the claims submitted herewith, the particulars of which, 4 as far as possible, arc attested to, are reasonable, and recommends that they bo forwarded I to Her Majesty's Government, for presentation to the (ioverim.ent of the United States. t The (Committee advise that your E.vccllency be moved to forward the claims herein .< mentioned to the Ui;;lit Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonics, for transmission , to the United States' Government. All which is respectfully submitted for your ICxccllency's approval. "^- '^ JOHN J. McGEE, Council. ivy season for the Inclosure 6 in No. DO. Declaration of Jarpes Douijlas Warren, City of Ottawa, Province of Ontario, Dominion of Canada. I, JAMEiS DOUGLAS WAllREX, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of Britis Columbia of the Dominion of Canada, master mariner and ship-owner, do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows : — 1. That I have been a resident of the said city of Victoria for the past twenty-nine years, and during that time I have been largely interested in the building, etiuipment, and management of steam and sailing vessels. I have also been engaged in the sealing and fishing business at said city for the past fourteen or fifteen years. 2. Tlic steam-schooners " Grace " and " Dolphin," and the schooner " W. P. Say- ward," and the rebuilding and fitting with steam-power of the steam-schooners " Anna Beck " and "Thornton," all of which vessels have been seized in Bchring's Sea by the United States' authorities, were built and done for me, and under my personal direction, and were each owned and managed by nir for some time after their completion, and are in V , ■m |i: ■ 5 f m now rnanuced by nic lor tlicii- respective owner and owners. 'I'lie schooners " Curolcim,'' " Favorite," "Alfrcil Adams," " Adii," and " Onwiird," ail also seized in Behring's Sii, by tiie United States' anihoritics, were each and ail well known to uie from |)ersuiiii| knowledi;e. From my interest in the lieiirin£;'s Sea scaling; business, 1 ke|)t myself \vc|| posted on tlie matter and manner of the condition and equipment of the said vessels, anc most of the facts stated in the declaratious of claim in the case of each of tliese vessels cauie under my personal ol)servation. The said vessels, excepting the " riioriiton.' "Onward," and •• Carolena," wliich arc at Ounalaska, are at Sitka, in the United States' Territory of Alaska. 3. T'' brins these vessels from Sitka to Victoria, a distance of al)out 'JOO milis, vili involve a cost of at least l.'iOO dollars to purchase the necessary materials and take tluiii 1 to Sitka, and to convey the necessary men to Sitka and pay tlieir waives. iM'om le.uni,. Victoria until ariivnl back with any one of said ves.-els would ti;!:e about tv.'o months, o perhaps a few days less in the summer months, and a few days more in the wmtq months. 4. A full hunting and sealing season bei;ins as early as the 1st January and uptli the 1st March, and extends thente until the end of September. This season is divided into two parts, the coast season and the Uchrinjj's Sea se.i-ini The coast season terminates about the end of .lune, but vessels intendinj; to go ti Behring's Sea generally leave the coast fishing during the month of May, sealing as tiicy go northward, and reaching lichring's Sea the end of .luni? or beginning of .Inly, 'flu best period of tlu; sealing season in J^ehring's Sea varies in ditferent years according to the prevailing weather from about the 'iOth .July to the end of September, after which date, though seals are plentiful, stress of weather compels scaling-vesseis to leave the sea and go south. .'). On sealing voyages the hunters are paid in lieu of wages so much per seal skin on each skin they capture, receiving from 2 to 21 dollars per skin. The masters arc generalli paid i)artly in wages md partly in the same manner as the hunters. The only vessel in the Behring's Sea in either of the seasons of 1886 or 1887 that made a reasonably lull catch of seals was the schooner " Mary Ellen," of Victoria, wliich, in the season of 1880, took 4,'2.')t) seal-skins. On and for said season the "Mary Flk'n' cni'ried fifleen hunters and five boats, an average catch per boat of H.'il seal-skins, the five boals being about ecjual to eight or nine canoes. The " Mary Kllen " was the only vessel in Hehring's Sea in either 188(3 or 1887 which so tar as I know, or am able alter in(]tiii'v to learn, lemained the full season in said sea on and about the best sealing grounds without being disturbed by the United States' authorities. And I believe that the said steam-schooners "Gi'ace Dolphin" and "Anna Beck," and the said schooner " \V. 1*. Sav- wardj" which were the best ecpiipped vessels for sealing that had ever entered the Behriiiif's Sea, would have, if not seized or disturbed by the United States' authorities, made ,ii cqudily large catch in said years 188G and 1887, there being no reason why they slioul not do so. (i. The masters of the steam-schooner "Thornton " and schooner " Onward," and 'li mate of the srhoDiier "Carolena," f...er their arrival at Sitka as prisont.' in the lattei ]ui of August, euteieci into an agreement with one Clarke, a counsellor-at-law at Sitk.i, to; defend their vessels and themselves on their pending trial at Sitka lielbrc the Uiiittd i States' Uistrici Court, and the charge of oOd dollars for legal e.\penses at Sitka in the ta-e' of eacli of the said vessels is to cover the claim of siiid Clarke. . 7. The wages of the crew of (!ach of the said seized vessels, except the "Ahiti Adams" and "Onward," arc based on two montlis' btrMce espiring on the day of' sii/tiuj in each case, in the "Adams" and "Onward" r ses, the crews were paid up to the tiiiie of their arrival at \'ietofia. ?'ty And 1, .lames Douglas Warren aforesaid, make tiouslv believin Oaths." this solemn declaration, consciiMi the same to be true, and by virtue (A' the '"Act respecting Extra-judicial j (Signed) .1. D. WAllRIA. ant Declared and atlirmed before me, at the eily of Ottawa, in the Counly of Cailctoii I'rovinee of Ont. ''o, this i)th dav of December, a.d. iSbZ, and certified under im oflicial seal. (Signed ^ J. M. Baluehson, A'ottiri/ Vim Ik- for Ontarih 145 ners " Ciirolciia," ] in Beluing's Sen ne from jicrsuiml ' ke[)t myself wdi said vessels, fiiic li »)f tiiese vesselv the "Thornton, he United Stati. it yOO miles. viH Ills and tiike tlun, js. iM'oni Ifiiviii.' t tVt'o months, a: nv in the wjnt.i muary and up till ri life's Sea scusun, tending to go ti ly, sealin}? as they ng of July, 'flic s aceordinjr to tlic , after which date, t leave tho sea and h per seal skin on sters are generally 1886 or 1887 tlint )f Victoria, which, ;he "Mary Klleii" seal-skins, the (ivc vas the ordy ve-'scl ahle after in(]uirv it sealing groimils liovc that tne suiil loner " W. V. Silv- ered the liclirin;,''s thorities, made iin 1 why they siioulu Onward," and the in tho latter pai; -law at Sitka, ti liefore the Uiiittd Sitka in tlie ca>c eept the "AH'r.: the (l.iy of sei/.iii\ id u[) to tlu' liim laration, con.-'ciii;- ting lixtia-jiHlii'!,L D. \VARlli:\. 'ounty of C';nieti)-: ;erlilicd uiuIlt iin ', " " Inclosure 7 in No. 90. • . . I Declaration of James Douglas Warren. . ^ ity of Ottawa, Province of Ontario, Dominion of Canada. I, JAMES DOUGLAS WARIIEN, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of ritish Columbia of the Dominion of Canada, master mariner and ship-owner, do solemnly d sincerely declare as follows : — 1 . That I am the duly authorized agent, by power of attorney bearing date the 4th ovember, a.d. 1886, of Thomas H. Cooper, of the city of San Francisco, in the Stale of lifornia, one of the United States of America, the managing owner of the hereinafter ntioned schooner " W. P. Say ward." 2. That the said Thomas H, Cooper is, as I am informed and do verily believe, British subject by birth, and has never renounced his allegiance to the Sovereign of eat Britain. . i m 3. That the said schooner " W. P. Savward" is a British vessel, having been built at ictoria aforesaid in a.d. 1882, and duly registered at the port of Victoria nforesaid, was at the time of her seizure, as hereinafter set out, so registered. The said P. Sayward " is 1S6^ tons burden, hy builder's measurement, and is a well and ■frongly built vessel. i^ 4. That on the 16th day of Mav, a.d. 1887, after having duly cleared at Customs at tike port of Victoria aforesaid for such purpose, the " W. P. Sayward " sailed from Victoria (A and for a full hunting and fishing voyage in the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea. On said voyage George E. Fercy, of the said city of Victoria, was master ; Andrew liing, of the same place, mate ; and "the crew numbered, in addition to the master and Ittite, twenty-two or twenty-three, with nine canoes and one boat for hunting and sealing ^ttmposes. \'s- 5. On tlie 2nd day of July the., next following the said " W. P. Sayward " entered Biiffing's Sea, having then on board, as by the rejiort of the master sent to me, 4T!) seal- «i||ii, all taken on the voyage from Victoria to Behring's Sea prior to the said 2nd day of J^. After entering the said .sea the weather was very thick, and no sealing was done by ii|"W. P. Sayward." ^'Mf 6, On the 9th day of said July, the " VV. P. Sayward " then being in latitude 54° 43' tifth and longitude 167" f)]' west, and about 58 miles from Ounalaska Island, the nearest liid, and lawfully pursuing the objects of her voyage, was seized by the United States' Wi«ni-ship " Rieliard Rush," and taken to Illoolook Harbour, at Ounalaska Island, in the ^ited States' Territory of Alaska. At said harbour the seal-skins on board the •"W. P. Sayward " were taken out and stored on shore, and the " W. P. Sayward" was, bjf'order of the authorities of the United States, sent to Sitka, in the said Territory of Alaska, in charge of an ofliccr from said " Richard Rush," together with all her crew. 7. Upon arrival at Sitka the " W. P. Sayward" was handed over to United States' Marshal Atkins, the master and mate of the " W. P. Sayward," the said George E. Percy Mid Andrew Laing, were taken before a Judge and bound over to appear for trial on the %ind day of August then instant, and from day to day thereafter, on a charge of having i^lated tl e laws of the United States relating to seal-fishing in the waters of Alaska. TRie said master and mate so appeared on the 22nd August and day by day thereafter, 48til the 9tli day of September, when, without having been tried on said charge or any dttier charge whatever, they were unconditionally released. 8. That hereto annexed, marked " (A)," is a statement of the value of the said schooner fW. P. Sayward " at the time of her seizure by the " Richard Rush," also of the articles, liid groups of articles, and the value thereof^ comprising the outfit of the " \V. P. Slyward " on and for said voyage, also of the amount of premiums paid for insurance of Ipc hull, outfit, and cargo of said schooner during said voyage; also of the amount paid la wages to the crew and hunters on said voyage ; also of the fares and expenses of the llate to and from Victoria for instructions, and of the master, mate, and part of the crew "^returning to Victoria from Sitka; and also of the number and value of the seal-skins tMcen from the said schooner when seized. 9. The value placed on the schooner " W. P. Sayward" in said Exhibit (A), namely, ^flOO dollars, is a fair and reasonable valuation of the said schooner, considering her lljpglnal cost, which was about 7,000 dollars, the condition of re[)air she was in when Bed, and the value of vessels of her class at Victoria aforesaid, for such purposes as the ff. P. Sayward " was designed and used. Immediately before going on said voyage she T thoroughly repaired and refitted, and, at the time of her seizure, was in firet-class order [128] U m f ' Jll 1 ^ 1 il |!^ IIimSI' 146 and condition. Besides tVie outfit mentioned in Exiiibit (A), tlieie wus on board the "W.pl Saywnrd," when seized, a considerable (jusuitity of extra wear, tacltlinij;, and ship stores. The insunincc vahie of the " W. P. Sayward," i'or tlie year 1887, was 6,000 dollars, anii on and during said voyage she was insured in the sum of 1,000/. on her hull, and inj 2,000/. on her outfit and cargo. 10. The value placed on the various articles and {j;r()ii|)s of articles comprising the I outfit of the said sciinoner, us !i;ivcn in I'Lxliibifc (A), is the uiarkut price for each ofs articles at Victoria aforesaid at the time of tluir |)urehase f()r the use and purposes of ( voyage. The price eiiargcd in l'ixhil)it (A) for the seal-skins on board the " W. pj Sayward " when seized, namely. 5 dol- ^0 c. per skin, is the market price per skin current ai| Victoria aforesaid on or about the close of the sealing season of 1887, when the catch oil the •' W. P. Sayward," had not such seizure taken place, would have been placed on tJiel said market. 11. That hereto annexed, marked "(C)," is a statement of the legal and personal! expenses incurred at Sitka and elsewhere by reason of the seizure of the "W. P.f Sayward," the arrest and detention of her master and mate, and the claims arisinii therefrom. | 12. That hereto annexed, marked " (D)," is an estimate of the loss and damage resultinjj to the owner thereof by reason of the seizure and detention of the schooner " W. P,l Sajward " during the season of 1887, and the probable loss from the same cause fortli(l season of 1888. The estimated catch of seals by the " W. P. Sayward " for the season ojj 1887 is based upon an average catch of .'{50 seals per boat and canoe for a full seasoD,[ and I verily believe, had the above seizure not taken place, that, under ordinary ciieiiin." stances, the total catch of the "W. P. Sayward" for said lull season would have been a; least the said number of 3,.')()0 seals. 13. That after the close of the sealing season, and durinn the months of October November, and December, a.d. 1S87, and January 1888, had the " W. P. Sayward" bew in her owner's ])ossession she would have been engaged in the coasting and i^uiiaj! freighting trade in and about the coasts of Mritish Columbia, and the said claim ol 300 dollars per month for each oC said months is a fair and reasonable estimate ol' tin earnings of the '' W. P. Sayward " for and during j^aid months, after deducting therclioit the cost of wages and running expenses. 14. In order to put the " W. P. Sayward " in order and condition to engiiu;^ u hunting and fishing the full season of 1888, it is necessary that she should be in iu' owner's possession nt Victoria aforesaid on or before tlic 1st day of February, a.d. IS8> If not then at Victoria it will be impossible to repair and refit lier in time to start out on. full season voyage which begins about the 1st March. As during the sununer niontli' there would be little for a vessel like the " \V. P. Sayward " to do in the coasting and loia. freighting trade, if she were not got away on a fishing and hunting voyage the sca^o' ? would be practically lost. The cstimateil profit on a full season of hunting and fishini,' kl the "W. P. Sayward" in 1888, namely, (»,00() dollars, is a liiir and reasonable catcii estimate, based on a catch of 3,500 seal-skins, and, deducting from the gross value thcicoti at 6 dol. 50 e. per skin, the cost of outfit and wages based on the " \V. 1'. Sayward's | voyage of 1887. 15. That hereto annexed, marked " (H)," is a -statement of the principal sums oi:| which interest at 7 per cent, per annum is claimed, and the time tor which it is so elaiiiicJ.| On the 1st October, a.d. 1887, on or about which date the catch of the " W. P. Sayward for 1887 would have been, in the ordinary course of events, realized on, the minimum ratei of interest on money for commercial purposes at the said city of Victoria was, has siiictl continued to be, and now is, 7 per cent, per annum. 16. That hereto annexed, marked "(F)," is a sfatement of the articles, nnd groups oi| articles, and the value thereof, comprised in the outfit of the '' W. P. Sayward " on said voyage as given in Exhibit (A), which would have been wholly or almost wholly consuiikCI in the course and prosecution of a i'ldl season's hunting and tisliing voyage, such as coii'l templated by the " W. P. Sayward " in 1 88?, And J, James Douglas Warren aforesaid, make this solemn declaration, conscicntiouslii believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the " Act respecting Extra-judicial oallis." [ (Signed) J. D. WAKKEN. Declared and affirmed before me at the city of Ottawa, in the County of Carletou anil Province of Ontario, this 9th day of December, a.d. 1887, and certified under my oditiai] ■eal. (Signed) D. O'CoNNOft, Notary Public. n board the " W. P, I ig, and ship stores, i 6,000 dollars, and 11 her hull, and \A cles comprising the I ice for each oi'g id purposes of saiijt board the " W. pj per skin current ai t , when the catch ofj been placed on thef 'i legal and personal ij re of the "W. P.. the claims arising | nd damage resultin.ii I schooner " W. P^ same cause for He I i " for the season oij 30 for a full soiisoiij er ordinary circuiiH would have heeiiatg lonths of October, ! P. Say ward" bwa, asting and geneds tlie said claim o! ? iblo estimate of tlie Icducting thercfran itioti to engiiitc i/' 3 should he in lici 'ebrnary, a.». 1888,1 ni; to start out onil le summer montbil e coasting and iodl voyage the seasoul iting and fisiiingbvl d reasonable catcll gross value thereo(l W. 1'. SaywardV'l priiiciital suras ocl ieh it is so claiincd.l " W. P. Say ward '^ , tiie iiiininium ratel toria was, has sinctl cles, iind groups oi| Sayward " on said it wholly consuiuidj jyage, such as c'oii'[ ion, conscientiousiji ra-judicial oallis." . D. WAKKEN. ity of Carleton ai d under my olliuo 147 Exhibit (A). Value of tlic s(:lM)mKi- " W. P. Siiywnid" nt tlie time of lier Bcizuru liy Uiiiti'd Kiati-.' Htoain-.ship " Riclmrd Kiwh " oil tlie Otli July, a'.u. 1HS7 Vnlue of •' \V. 1". Say wnrd'd " outfit on said voyogc — GroccrieH . . . . • • Aniniuiiitioii .. .. •. •• •• •• Dry ^'()o(!s ,, ,. .. .. .• •• Two iri n tinikH . . . . • • • • • • Wati'i-cnsks .. .. .. .. •• Ship cliandliry l''i>m' No. lU KJiot guns .. .. .• Two rillcs .. .. •. .. •• .• ( Mill inililomciils and tool« .. .. .• •. One .'^I'aliiii^-boiit (rtturncd) .. .. •• •• Nine eaiiocs and outfits . . .. .. 8 tons salt .. .. •• •• ■• .<• a tons eoal .. .. •• •• •• •• Cooking range and utcntjilx . . . . . . . • Iii.siirancc — J'leiiiiuni on 1.000/. on IniU, HI/, fw. 8'/. Premium on '.'.000/. on eargo, lOii/. 13s. 'lil. WascB paid tiailorK and huii<,er.t for voyage up to time of seizure . . I'.iNsnge money of mate to Victoria lor counsel and instruotiona and return . . . . . . . . . . • • Fans of niiiKter and mate on return to Victoria, and ijcrsonul expenses FariK of K'vcntei!ii men (crew) from Fort Simpson to Victoria .. ■i'i9 .seals on lioard " \V. 1'. Say ward" when seized, at S dol. 60 c. per .skin . . . . • . • . Total, Kxliibit (A) . . Dol. c. Doi. I!. 6,000 00 856 6T 20i 76 9S 15 SO 00 26 00 101 40 IGO 00 46 00 9 00 .013 00 ,' 120 00 35 00 75 00 9,288 fiS 410 70 514 69 925 29 1,437 76 .. 100 00 160 00 255 00 506 00 2,634 60 . . (Signed) (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public. 13,791 12 J. D. WARREN. Exhibit (G). Dol. c. Legal expense;* at .Sitka in connection with the seizure of the " \V. P. ^aywiml" .. .. .. .. .. 100 OC Counsel and other legal fee.s and expenses in and about the claimB arising I'l 0111 said seizure .. .. .. .. .. 750 00 Personal < x] eiist s ol' the owner in connection with eoid ocizure and elaiiiis .. .. .. .. .. .. ., 250 00 (Signed) lolal. Exhibit (C) (Signed) I). O'Connor, Notary Public. 1,100 00 J. D. WARREN. Exhibit (D). — Da.mages arising from the Seizure and Detention of the "W. P. Sayward," during the Season of 1887, based upon her reasonable and probable Catch of Seals for that Season. Dol. c. Estimated eatch of seal-skins ., ,. ,, .. ,. 3,500 Less on board at seizure .. ., ., ., ,. 479 M Balance, at 5 dol. 50 c. per skin .. ,, 3,021 = 16,615 50 Loss to owners of " W. P. Sayward " by reason of her detention after the close of the sealing season ol 1887, namely, for the monthB of October, November, and December, A.u. 1887, and January, A. I). 1888, when the " W. P. Sayward," if in owner's jiosscssion, would have been engaged in coasting tiaile. Four months, at 300 dollars per month ,. .. 1,200 00 If owner not put in possession of " W. P. Sayward" on or before the 1st Fehnmry, 1888, so that she may be put in order and condition to engage iu fishing and hunting voyage for season of 1888, reasonable ond probable profit for the season of 1888 .. .. ., .. .. 8,000 00 [128j U 2 mm 1 t 'W, 148 £xhibit (B). — Estimate of the Principal Suras on which Interest is claimed at 7 per cent, per annum, and the Time for which it is so claimed. Dot. c. Value of the estimated catch of the " \V. P. Say ward " for Heason of 1887, from the 1st day uf October, a.d. 1887, when said catnh would have been reuhzed on, viz., 3,tJ00 skiiia, ut 5 dol. SOc. per skin .. ,. .. 19,250 00 Actunl outlay foi: legal and other expenses on account of said seizure prior to the 1 St October, 1887 .. .. .. .. .. .. (i05 lU Total principal on which interest at 7 per cent, per annum from the 1st October, 1887, is claimed .. 19,855 10 (Signed) (Signed) D. O'CoNNOE, Notary Public. J. D. WARREN. !i Exhibit (F). — Value of estimated Consumption of Articles of "W. P. Say ward's" Outfit on a full Voyage. Groceries , . . , . , . . , , , , A munition .. ., .. .. ,, Dry poods .. Ship chandlery . . . . Salt .. .. ,. ., .. ., Coal Wages Insurance premiums , . . . . . . . . . Do). e. 856 67 202 76 95 76 101 40 120 00 35 00 1,437 76 925 29 (Signed) Total consumption •. .. (Signed) D. O'CoNNOE, Not' J Public. 3,774 62 J. D. WARREN. Memo. If the full claim for the season of 1887, as set out in Exhibit (D), be allowed, tliecl the amount of this exhibit, 3,774 dol. 62 c, will properly appear as a credit, and bel deducted from the total of Exhibit (A), of which it forms a part. li ■H " Inclosure 8 in No. 90. Declaration of James Douglas Warren, City of Ottawa, Province of Ontario, Dominion of Canada. I, JAMES DOUGLAS WARREN, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of Britisil Columbia of the Dominion of Canada, master mariner and ship-owner, do solemnly and I sincerely declare as follows : — 1. That I am ti>e duly authorized agent of Thomas H. Cooper, of the city of Saul Francisco, in the State of California, one of the United States of America, the owner c the hereinafter-mentioned steam-schooner " Grace," by power of attorney bearing date tliel 4th day of February, a.d. 1886. 2. That the said Thomas H. Cooper is, I am informed and do verily believe, u Britisli subject by birth, and never having renounced his allegiance to the Sovereign of Great] Britain. 3. That the said steam-schooner " Grace " is a British vessel built at Victoria aforel said, in a.d. 1881, and duly registered at the port of Victoria aforesaid. By builder'sl measurement the " Grace " is about 182 tons burden. She is substantially and strongljl built, copper fastened throughout, and in a.d. 1885 her bottom and sides to about h load-line were coppered. Her steam power consists of one large boiler, compound engiiifil and all necessary littings, including inside surface condenser, steam fire pumps and hosc,| and also had on board a double steam cargo winch. 4. The said " Grace " was duly licensed as a passenger boat, and had all the appliaacesl and conveniences required by Canadian law for such vessels. 5. That as such agent as aforesaid, I am the sole manager of the said steani-l schooner " Grace " for the said Thomas H. Cooper. 149 V. P. Say ward's" Dol. c. 856 67 202 76 95 75 101 40 120 00 35 00 1,437 75 925 29 J. D. WARREN. ail all the appliaQceil of the said steam- 6. TImt on or about the 23rd day of April, a.d. 1887, having previously duly cleared therefor at the port of Victoria aforesaid, the said steam -schooner "Grace" sailed from Victoria on and for a full season hunting and fishing voyage in the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea. On said voyage the crew of the " Grace " consisted of William Petit, of Victoria aforesaid, master, a mate, and twenty-nine sailors and hunters. 7. That on the 6th or 7th day of July following; the " Grace " entered the Behring's Sea along the 172nd west meridian, througii tlio Amoughta Pass, commonly called the " l72nd Pass,'' having then on board 458 seals taken while on the voyage from Victoria aforesaid to the said pass. 8. That on the 12th day of said July, a.d. 1887, the " Grace " began sealing in said liehriuii's Sea, and from then till she was seized as hereinafter set out caught 323 seals. On the 17th day of the said month of July the United States' steam-ship "Richard Rush" seized the said steam-schooner "Grace" for alleged violation of the laws of the United States of America respecting seal-fishing in tiie waters of Alaska. At the time of said seizure the " Grace" was in north latitude 55° 3' and west longitude 168° 40', then being about 92 miles from Ounalaska Island, the nearest land, and, as I verily believe, lawfully pursuing the objects of said voyage. 9. The " Grace " after being seized was taken to Ounalaska, in the Territory of Alaska, where by order of the United States' authorities thereat, all the seal-skins on board, except as hereinafter stated, were taken out and stored at Ounalaska, and all the firearms and ammunition taken on board the said " Richard Rush." On removing the seal-skins twelve were missing. Five were afterwards discovered on board the " Grace " and not removed, the remaining seven were not, so far as I know, ever found. 10. After ren)oval from the " Grace" of the said seal-skins as stated in the preceding paragraph 8, a United States" officer was placed on board the " Grace," and she was, in charge of said officer, taken to Sitka, in the Territory of Alaska, together with all the crew and hunters. On arrival at Sitka on the 1st August United States' Marshal Atkins took charge of the " Grace." The master, the said William Petit, was bound over to appear for trial on the 22nd day of August then instant, on a charge then preferred against him of having violated the laws of the United States respecting seal-fishing in the waters of Alaska. The said master so appeared for trial on the 22nd instant, and thereafter day by day until the !)th day of September next following, when, without having been brought to trial on such a charge or any other charge whatever, he was unconditionally released. 11. That liereto annexed, marked " (A)," is a statement of the value of said steam- schooner " Grace " at the time of her seizure, and of the outfit then on board, also of the premiums paid for insurance on the hull, outfit, and cargo of the " Grace " for and during said voyage ; also of the amount of wages paid the crew and hunters on and for said voyage jp to time of seizure ; also of the expenses and fares of the master and five liien at and from Sitka to Victoria aforesaid, and also of the number of the seal-skins on board at the time of seizure, and the value thereof. 12. That the value placed upon the said steam-schooner "Grace" at the time of her seizure, namely, 12,000 dollars, is based upon the original cost of the said vessel, the state of repair she was then in, and the general market value of the vessels of the same class at the s^id port of Victoria, and for the same purpose for which she was designed. The first cost of the " Grace " was between 16,000 and 17,000 dollars. At the time of her seizure she was G years old, and in 1 885 had been thoroughly repaired, coppered as aforesaid, and generally put in first-class order and condition. On her departure on said voyage she was in good order and condition, and had on said voyage up to the time of seizure sustained no damage beyond ordinary wear and tear. Her insurance value for said year 1887 was placed at 12,500 dollars, and she was, while on said voyage, insured for the sum of 2,000/., and the said value of 12,000 dollars at the time of iier seizure is a r(;a?,onal)lc and fair value for the 3aici steam-schooner " Grace." 13. That the value in lixliibit (A) placed on the articles, and groups of articles, comprising the outfit of the said " Grace " is the cost price of the said articles at the port of Victoria at the time of their purchase for the purposes of said voyage. In addition to the outlit named in Exhibit {.\), there was on board the " (irace " at the time of her seizure a considerable quantity of general ship stores. 14. The price per seal-skin charged in Exhibit (A), namely, 5 dol. 50 c. per skin for the seal-skins on i)oard the " Grace " when seized and taken out at Ounalaska was the market price at Victoria at the close of the sealing season of 1887, when the catch of the "Grace" for that season, in the ordinary course of events, would have been placed on the market. 15. Thai hereto annexed, marked " (C)," is a statement of the legal expenses incurred '* S.'.tka and elsewhere by reason of the seizure of the " Grace " and the arrest of the II' if '\$ 150 oaptaifi, and the claims arising thererrom, and also of the personal expenses connected therewith. 16. That hereto annexed, marl<ed " (D)," is a statement of the amounts claimed by the owner of the steniu-schooner " Grace " by reason of her seizure and detention during the season of 1887, and of the loss arising from the detention of the said "Grace" after the close of said season. 17. The estimated catch by the " Grace" for the season of 1887, namely, 4,200 seal- skins, is based upon a reasonable and probable catch per boat or canoe for that season, Exeprience in sealing has proved that the greater number of boats or canoes, or both, carried by any one sealing-vessel, the smaller the average per canoe or boat, and it is in view of this that the average per canoe for the " Grace " is put at 300 per canoe, wliile the average for the steam-schooner •' Anna Beck " for the same season is placed at 350, the latter carrying eight canoes and one boat, while the former carried twelve canoes and two boats. The said average catch of 300 seal-skins per canoe and boat for the " Grace " is a fiur average catch, and I verily believe that, had the " Grace " not been seized as aforesiiid, her catch for the season of 1887 would have exceeded the said number of 4,200 seal-skins, 18. That during the montiis of October, November, and December, a.k. 1887, and January, a.d. 1888, had the "Grace" been in possession of her owner, she would have been engaged in the coasting trade between the various ports of British Columbia. The estimated loss per month of 500 dollars for each of said months is a fair and reasonable estimate of the earnings of the said steam-schoonsr " Grace " for the said months of October, November, December, and January, after deducting the cost of wages and ordinary running expenses, and I verily believe that the " Grace " would have earned the aaid sum per month had she been in her owner's possession. 19. That in order to engage in the hunting and fishing of next year, namely, A.D. 1888, and in view of the fact that the " Grace " will require the usual overhauling and fitting out before being sent on so long a voyage, the latest date at which it will be possible to begin necessary repairs and relitting, and have them completed in order to leave at or about the usual date on said hunting and tisbing voyage, will be on or about the 1st day of February, a.d. 1888. If the "Grace "be not delivered to the owners at Victoria on or before that date, it will be too late to repair and refit her for a full season hunting and fishing voya^^e, which begins on or about the 1st March of each year. During the summer months, for a vessel of the class and equipment of the " Grace," there is very little to do in and about the coasting trade, and the reason in the event of the " Grace " not being in the possession of her owner on or before the 1st February, A.D. 1888, would be practically lost to her owner. The claim for loss if detained beyond the 1st February aforesaid is a fair and reasonable estimate of the loss which will in such cases be sustained by the owner of the *' Grace." 20. That hereto annexed, marked " (E)," is an estimate of the principal sums on which interest at 7 per cent, per annum is claimed, and tiie time for which it is so claimed. On the Ist day of October, a.d. 1887, when the catch of the " Grace " would have been, In the ordinary course of events, realized on, the minimum rate of interest on money for commercial purposes at the said citv of Victoria was, has since continued to be, and now is, 7 per cent, per annum. 21. That hereto annexed, maiKed "(F)," is a statement of the articles, and groups of articles, and the value thereof, from Exhibit (A), which would have been wholly, or almost wholly, consumed in the course and prosecution of the said voyage, had not the " Grace " been seized and detained as aforesaid. And 1, James Douglas Warren aforesaid, make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue ot the " Act respecting Extra-judicial Oaths." (Signed) J. D. WARREN. Declared and affirmed before me at the city of Ottawa, in the County of Carleton, in the Province of Ontario, this 9th day of December, a.d. 1887, and certified under my official seal. (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public for Ontario. uses connected Exhibit (A). Vuluo of the Btoain-9chouni.'r " Qnice " ut the tiino uf her seizure . ■ Outfit— Orocories . . . . . . . . . . • . Ammunition . . . . . . . . Dry gooils ,. .. .. .. .. .. Three ii on wiiter-tauks .. ., .. .. Watcr-ensks, . . . . . . . Ship chandlery . . . . TwL'lvc No. lOshot guns .. ,. Thrie rifles . . One snmll cannon on curriii^c I'jr isi^iiaUiug Gun iniploments and tods Two senUng hoiits and outflls ,. Twelve cnnoes and outfits . . . . . . . , 8^ Urns of salt .'13 tiiiLS uf coal . . , . . . , , Cooking range and utensils Insurance — Premium on 2,000/. insurance on hull „ „ ,. otitlit find cargo . , Wages paid crew and liuntcrs on voyage up to time of seiiuro . . [•'ares from Silka to Vintoiia of muster and five of the crew, and master's expenses at Sitka . . , , 781 scal-sUius on board the "(jraee" when seized, at 5 do). .50 c. per .skin , , . , , . , . , . Total, Exhibit (A) (Signed) . (Signed) D. O'CoNNOE, Notary Public. Dol. 0. Dol. c. 12,000 00 048 IS 166 «3 876 17 66 00 , 25 00 161 18 480 ()0 77 00 .50 0(1 10 60 ^■l!t 67 684 00 127 50 aai 00 100 00 3,633 18 821 40 514 59 1,335 99 2,164 26 200 00 4,295 50 23,648 92 J. D. WARREN Exhibit (C). Legal expenses at Sitka in connection with the seizure of the " Grace" and arrest (if master ,, ,, ,, ., ,. ,, C'oiin-^i 1 and otiier legal fees and espenses in and about tlic seizure of the ■■ Ciraee," and other claims arising thereunder Personal expenses in the same connection , . Total (Signed) (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public. Dol. c. 100 00 750 00 1250 00 1,100 00 J. D. WARREN. Exiiil)it, (D). — Estimated Loss and Damage to the Owner ol the "Grace," by reason of her Seizure and Detention, during a.jj. 1887. Dol. c. KeaMiiiable and probable c.iteh of seals for the season of 1687 .. 4,200 Less niiinbor on board whoa seized, and charged in l-Ixhibit (A) . 781 Balonce at 5 dol, 50 c. per skin . . Kettsonable earnings of "Grace' during months of October, Novend)er, and December 1887, and January 1888, had she been in owner's possession, viz., four months at 500 dollars each .. .. .. .. ., I'lsiimated loss for scaling season of 1888, if "Grace" not in possession of owner ou or before Ist February, 1888 . . Total .. 3,419 = 18,804 50 2,000 00 7,000 00 (Signed) (Signed) D. O'CoNNOK, Notary Ptiblic. 27,804 50 J. D. WARREN. T^ Exhibit (E). — Estimate of the principal suii.s on which Interest at 7 per cent, per annum is claimed, and the Time (or which such Interest is so chiimed. Vnlue of the "Grace's" estimated ralch of seals for 1887, from the Ist October, A.n. 1887, on or before which lintc tlie said catch wouW have been realized on, viz., 4,'20O skins at .1 dul. 60 c. per skin . , l.'iisli expended for legal and other expenses on account of such seizure np to said date . • • • • • • • • • • • Total principal on which interest is claimed at 7 ]ier cent, per annum from Ist October to dtite ot payment . . Dol. c. ail, 1 00 00 ;iO() 00 (Si^ed) (Signed) D. O'CoNNnn, Notary Puhlic. jii.ioo no .J. D. WARREN. Exhibit (F). — Valuk of the Articles of the "Grace's" Outfit which would have been wholly, or almost wholly consumed, on a full hunting and tishing voyage. Groceries . . Aminnnition l)rv <;ood8 Ship cliandlery , . Salt . . Coal , . Wnires , , . . Iiisiininec premiums Total vnlue consumed (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public. Dol. e. 948 13 Ifill 63 276 17 101 18 127 SO 2.11 00 .. 2,1 r>4 25 1,335 no .. 5,410 85 J. D. WARREN. (Signed) Memo. If the full clnim for the season of 1887, as set out in Exhibit (D) be allowed, ^^ then the amount of this Exhibit, 5,410 dol. 8.5 c, will properly appear as a credit, and be deducted from the total of Exhibit (A) of which it forms a part. I < Inclosure 9 in No. 90. Decluration of James Douglas Warren. City of Ottawa, Province of Ontario, Dominion of Canada. I, JAMES DOUGLAS WARREN, of the city of Victoria, in tiic Province ot British Columbia of the Dominion of Canada, master mariner and sliip-owner, do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows : — 1. That I am the duly authorized agent of Thomas H. Cooper, of the city of San Francisco, in the State oi' California, one of the United States oi' America, engineer, by power of attorney bearing date the 4th day of November, a,d. 1886, the owner ot the hereinafter-mentioned steam-schooner " Anna Beck." 2. That the said Thomas 11. Cooper is, as I am informed and verily believe, a British subject by birth, and has never renounced his idlesiance to the Sovereign of Great Britain. 3. That the said steam-schooner "Anna Beck" is a British vessel since a. u. 1872, when she was transferred by purchase from the Registry of the port of San Francisco aforesaid to that of Victoria aforesaid, and has since remained on the Registry of the port of Victoria. In 1883 the "Anna Beck" was rebuilt and raised, and in the winter of 1880-81 she was fitted up with steam-propellor, and all the machinery and appliances necessary for such a purpose. The cost of said steam-power and rebuilding was over 8,000 dollars. 4. That as agent, as aforesaid, of the said Thomas H. Cooper, I am the sole manager of the said steam-schooner "x\nna Beck." 5. That on the 2 1st .March, a.d. 1887, the said "Anna Heck" sailed from Victoria, having previously cleared for that purpose, on a full season's hunting and fisliing voyage in the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea. On or about the '2^>i\\ day of May then next following the " Amia Heck" sailed from the west coast of Vancouver Island for Behrinj;'s Sea. On and tor said voyage to Behring's Sea the crew of "Aima Beck" consisted ot 153 3nt. per annum uld have been oyafte. )ol. c. (48 13 6C. 63 C.l 17 IK •27 50 !.11 00 CA 25 ias no 10 85 WARREN. li) be; il lowed, a credit and be Province ot IV, do solemnly 3 sole uianager Louis Olsen, ot the said city of Victoria, master; Micliael Kcefe. of the same jiiace, mate; tnd twenty-one sailors and hunters, with one sealing-boat and eight canoes, and a complete puttit for 11 full voyage of hunting and tishing in Behring's Sea. 6. That on or about the 2Htli day of June, a.d. 1887, the " Anna Beck " entered the 3ehring's Sea, and on the 2nd day of .luly, a.d. 1887, while in said sea, in latitude 64° .58' jiortli and longitude 167° 20' west, then being about 6t< miles (roin the nearest laud, and [awfully engaged in the objects of said voyage, the "Anna Reek" was seized by the United Ktates' steam-ship " Richard Kush," for alleged violation of the laws of the United States Vespeeting seal-fishing in the waters of Alaska. I 7. That at the time of said seizure the " Anna Beck " had on board 3'M seal-skins, oost of which had been uiken by the "Anna Beck" on her voyage up to the time of bnturing said sea, and not afterwards. After seizure, the "Anna Beck" was, by the Luthority of the Commancier of the " Uichard Rush," taken to lUoolook Harbour, at )unalaska Island, in the United States' Territory of Alaska, where the said seal-skins were aken out and stored on shore, and the arms and ammunition transferred to the said •• Richard Rush," either at sea or in said harbour, The master, mate, and crew of the ' Anna Beck " were sent to Sitka, in said Territory of Alaska, on the American schooner ►'Clialleiige." On their arrival at Sitka aforesaid the master and mate of the '• Aima Seek " were taken before a Judge, and bound over to appear before said Judge on the 'Jind August then instant, for trial, on a charge of having violated the laws of the United Slates Respecting seal-fishing in the waters of Alaska. The master and mate so appeared for trial on the 22nd day of August, a.d. 1887, and thereafter from day to day until the !Hh day of September then ne.vt following, when, without having been brought to trial on said char"e, or on any other charge whatever, they were unconditionally released. 8. That hereto annexed, marked "(A)," is a statement showing the value of tiie siiid tteam-schooiior "Anna Beck" at the time of her seizure as above set out, excepting ouly vhathad been consumed in the ordinary course and prosecution of the said voyage ; also of khc outfit, and value thereof, of the " Anna Beck " on said voyage ; also of the amounts paid |br iiisiirnnce ))remiums on the hull, outfit, and cargo of the "Anna Beck" on and during laid vovajje; also of the amount of wages paid to the crew and hunters for said voyage up the time ot said seizure ; also of the fares and expenses of the master and mate from Sitka to Victoria, and of sixteen of the crew of the " Anna Beck" from Fort Simpson to ficUma; and also of the number and value of the seal-skins tal >'n from the said " Anna Jecli " :ifter such seizure at Ounalaska Island. 1). The value placed on the said steam-schooner " Anna Beck," namely, 8,()U() dollars, lis based upon her cost, the order and condition in which she was when seized, and the lvalue of similar vessels at Victoria aforesaid. As stated in the preceding paragi.ipli 3 of ■this declaration, the ''Anna BecK' " was fitted with steam propelling power in a.d. 1880-81, land in a.d. 1883 was rebuilt and raised at a total cost of over 8,000 dollars. At the time lof her i^eizure she was in first-class order and condition, having been thoroughly over- Ihauled and refitted for said voyage, and the value claimed for her, namely, 8,000 dollars, is |a fair and reasonable value for her at the time of hev said seizure. ID. The prices charged in J'ixhibit (A) for the articles, and groups of articles, com- Iprising the outfit of the "Anna 13eck " on said voyage are the market price's at V'ictoria lalbresaid at the time of their purchase for the use and purposes of said voyaiie, and the [price per skin charged for the seal-skins taken from the '• Anna Beck " when seized is the hiiarket price per skin current at Victoria aforesaid at tiie close of the season ot' 1887, Iwlien, in the ordinary course ot events, the catch of the " Anna Beck" would have been I placed on said market. 11. Thiit hereto annexed, marked "(C)," is a statement of the legal and personal lexpenscs at Sitka and elsewhere arising out of the seizure and detention of the •' Aima IBcck," the arrest of her master and mate, and the claims arising therefrom. 12. That hereto annexed, n^arked '•(D)," is a statement ot the estiuiatcd loss and [damage to the owner of the said " Anna Beck," by reason ol her seizure and detention as laforesaid for the years a.d. 1887 and a.d. 1S88. The estimated catch of seals for the Iseason of 1887, namely, 3,150, is calculated upon an average catch per boat and per canoe lof 350 seals, which is a fair and reasonable estimate of the probable catch per boat and Iper canoe for the boat and each of the canoes of the said '' Anna Beck " during the season lof 1887. 13. After the close of tiie sealing season of 1887, and during the following months fof October, November, and December, a.d. 1887, and January, a.d. 1888, had the said Isteam-schuoner " Anna iicek " been in possession of her said owner, she would have been [engaged in the general coasting and freighting trade in and about the coasts of British |Columbia aforesaid, and the reasonable and nrobable earnings of the " Anu.i Beck" for [1281 " X i I li ■ li M I- i 1S4 said inonthR of October, November, December, and Jiuiuary, after deductinp; fW>m the gross amount thereof the cost of wages and running expenses, would be at least 500 dollars per month for each of the said months. 14. In order tha*. the "Anna Ikck " may be repaired and refitted in time to engage in a full season's hi-.ntii>5 and fishing voyage for a.d. 1888, it is necessary that she should be in her owner's possession at ^"icto^ia iiforesaid on or about tiie Ist day of February, A.D. 1 K88. If not at that date at Victoria and in possession of her owner, it will be impossible to put her in tit and proper condition to start out on sitid voynge at or about the usual time, which !.■> on or about the 1st March in each year. Durin<; the summer months there is little for ci vessel of the class and equipment of the " Anna Beck " to do in and about the general coasting trade, and if not engaged in hunting and fishing as aforesaid the season would be practically lost. The claim of 0,000 dollars as probable loss und damage to the owner of the " Anna Beck " if shg is detained after the 1st February, a.d. 1888, is a fair and reasonable estimate of his said loss by reason of such detention, for the season of 1888. 1 5. That hereto annexed, marked " (K)," is a statement of the principal sums on whicli interest is claimed, the rate thereof, and the time from and to which it is so claimed. At the time when the catch of the •' Anna Beck " for 1 887 would have been realized, on or about the Ist October, 1887, the minimum rate of interest on money for commercial purposes at Victoria aforesaid was, has since continued to be, and now is, 7 per cent, per annum. 16. That hereto annexed, marked "(F)," is a statement of the articles of the outfit of the said " Anna Beck," and the value thereof, as given in Exhibit (A), which would have been wholly or almost wholly consumed during the course and prosecution of a full hunting and fishing voyage in the Behring's Sea. And I, James Douglas Warren aforesaid, make this solemn declaration, conscien- tiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the " Act respecting Extra-judicial Oaths." (Signed) J. D. WARREN. Declared and affirmed before me at the city of Ottawa, in the County of Carleton and Province of Ontario, this 9th day of December, a.d. 1887, and certified under my official seal. (Signed) D. O'Connoe, Notary Public for Ontario. Exhibit (A) Dol c. Dol. c Value of BteBni-schooner " Anua Beck " at time of seizure by United States' steam-ship ' Richard Hush" on 2nd July, A.D. 1887 .. • • , , • • 8,000 Value of " Anna Beek's " outfit— Oroceries . . , , 876 42 Ammunition 242 60 Dry goods . . • • 95 76 Four iron tanks • • 82 00 Casks 10 00 Ship chandlery , , 240 06 Four No. 10 shot guns • • 160 00 Two rifles . . , , 45 00 Gun implements and tools One sealing-boat and outfit , , 9 00 , , 140 50 £ight canoes and outfit , , 456 00 8 tons salt . . • • 100 00 26 tons coal. . , . • • 175 00 Cooking range and utensils • ■ 76 00 Insurance — Premium on 1,400/. on hull (118/. It. id.) „ 2,000/. on outfit (105/. 13». 4rf.) Wages paid crew and hunters up to time of seizure . . . . Passage and expenses of captain and mate from Sitka, and sixteen of the crew of the "Anna Beck" from Fort Simpson to Victoria . . . . . . . . . . . . 334 seal-skins on board the " Anna Beck " at time of seizure, at 5 dol. 50 c. per skin . . . . . . . . 574 88 514 69 2,727 34 1,089 57 1,111 50 Tout, Sxhibit (A) (Signed) 460 :4 1,837 00 16,225 95 J. D. WARREN. (Signed) D. O'CONNOK, Notary Public. IfiS Exhibit (C). \A'ua\ cxpenup* nt Sitkn in conneotion with tho Helzuro of llic " Annu Bfok'" . Couiixl iiti'l other l(«iil ffe« «ml u«p«nteK in and nhoiit th« oUiinM niUinif from 'iiiil »ci«ni'' •• •• ■•, .,•'. "i' 1 • " I'lMsnnnl i'Xih'iihcb nf tlii" iiwiipr in comioction with snul m-iiuro onil nliiiiiiK , . 'I'otnl Dol. c. 100 no 7ft0 00 'J 50 00 1,100 00 (Signed) (Signed) I). O'Connor, Nolari) Puhlir. J. D. WARREN. lExiiibit (0). — Dam AUKS nriaing from the Seizure and Detention of the "Anna Beck" duriiif? tlic H(!as()ii 1887, bused upon her reasonable and probable Catcli of Seals for that beason. Hoi. c. Kstiiiiuted ciitcli . . • . . • • • • • l,e»» BkiiiH on bonrd wlivii Hciied . . . . . . . . Balance at 6 dol. fiO c. per skin . . . . Lous to owner of " Anna Beck " by reason of her detention after tlie close of the sealinf; seiiion of 1887, nninely. for the months of October, November, and December, \. i), UJH7, and January 1888, during which time the " Annii Beck," if in owner's possession, would hiive been engnKod in ooasting trade : four months nt fiOO dollurs , . . . . . If owner not put in posseuion of " Anna Beck" ou or before Ist Februnry, A. n. 1888, so that she may bo put in (inlernnd con- dition to cnifn^o in flahiug and hunting voyage for 1888, rcnsoiiublo niul probable profit for the season of 1888 3,1,51 1 334 2,816 s lfi.4H8 UO 3,000 UO (Signed) 6,000 00 J. D. WARREN. (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public. cliibit (Fi). — 1<-8TIMATR of the Principal Sums on wliich Interest, at 7 per cent, per annum, is claimed, and the Time lor which said Interest is so claimed. Dol. c. Value ot "Anna Beck's" estimated catch of seals for 1887, about which diitc said catch would have been realized on, namely, 3,160 senl-skins at a ilol. I'lO c. Outlay for legal and other expeuAes prior to 1st October, 1887 . . ri,»2S 00 fieo 54 (Signed) Tofnl principal on which interest nt T per cent. |)er nnniim is claimed from 1st October, IH87, to date of payment . . (Signed) 1). O'Connor, Notan/ Public. 17,885 .14 .1. D. WARREN. Exhibit (F). — Articles of the " Anna Beck's " Outfit, and Value thereof, as found in Exiiibit (A), which would have been wholly, or almost wholly, oonaumed on said Voyage had it not been broken up. (Jroceries Ammunition Dry goods Sliip chandlery 8 tons salt 25 tons coal Insurance Wages.. (Signed) Total value consumed .. ., .. (Signed) D, O'Connor, Notary Public. Dol. e. 876 42 242 60 96 76 240 06 120 00 175 00 1,089 67 .. 1,111 60 .. ■3,960 91 .». D. WARREN. lemo. If the full claim for the sealing season of 1887, as set out in Exhibit (D), be ^llowed, then the amount of this Exhibit, 3,9S0 dol. 91 c, will properly appear as a credit, ad be deducted irom the total of Exhibit (A), of which it forms part. [128] X 2 156 Inclosuie 10 in No. 90. Declaration nfJamas Douglas Wirrrn. City of Ottawii, I'lovince of Ontario, Dominion of Canada. 1, JAMKS DOUGLAS WARREN, of the city of A''ictoria, in the Province of British Columbiii of tho Dominion of Canada, master mariner and ship-owner, do solrmnly and sincerely declari; as lollows : — 1. That I am Uw du^y authorized agent of Thomas H. Cooper, of the city of San Francisco, in the State r,f California, o'.'.e ofriie U;?ited States of America, the owner oftiie hereinafter-mentioned -team-schooner " Dolphin,"' hy power of attorney hearing date the 4th d;:y of N^ovember, a.o. lSS(i. 2. Tliat tiu; said Thomas 11. Cooper is, as I am informed and do verily believe, a liritisii subject by birth, and .lever havinjy renounced his ullegiance I) the Sovereign ot Great Britain. 3. That tiie said steam-schooner '"Dolphin" is a British vessel, built at Victoria afore- said in A.D. 1882, and duly roDistd'ed at the port of Victoria aforesaid. By builder's measure- ment tin- "Dolphin" is 174 .'ons burden. She was substantially built, coppered to above light water-line, and copper-f.istened -hen built, and liad not up to the time of her seizure hereinafter set out sustained any damage or strain beyond ordinary wear and tear. Her steam-power consists of one large steel boiler, put in during the winter of 1884-85, com- pound engines and all the necessary fittings, including inside surface condenser, and also steam fire-pumps and hose, and a double steam cm-go winch. 4. The said steam-schooner " Dolphin " was duly licensed as a passenger-boat, and had all the appliances and conveniences required by Canadian laws for such vessels. 5. That as such agent as aforesaid, 1 am the sole manager of the steam-schooner " Dolphin " for the said Thomas H. Cooper. 6. T.iat on the ICtii day of .May, A.u. 1887, having previously cleared at the port of Victoria .or that purpose, the said " Dolphin " sailed from Victoria on and for a full season's liutiting and fishing voyage in the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's >Sea, and on and for said voyage the crew of tlie "Dolphin " consisted of myself as master, John Reilly infttfl, and crew of thirty-one sailors and hunters. 7. That on the 6th day of July, a.d. 1887, the "Dolphin " entered the said Behring's Sea through the Anmughta Puss, commonly called the ' 172nd Pass," having then on board 590 seals, taken while on the voyage up through the North Pacific Ocean from Victoria aforesaid to Amoughta Pass aforesaid. 8. On the 9th day of said month of .'uly tlie " Dolphin " began catching seals in Behring's Sea, then being in north latitude ;i4° 18', and west longitude 168" 40', and from said 9th day of July until the afternoon of the 12th day of said month of July the " Dolphin '■ eaugh twenty-eight seals in said Behring's Sea. 2. That on f '. f.fternoon of the 12th day of .luly, a.d. 1887, the United State.>' steam-ship " Richai . Rush" seized the said steam-schooner " Doipnin" while lawfully pursu'.ig the objects of said voyi.ge, and then being in nortii latitude 54° 38', and west lonrlcude 167° 3', and about i'l miles from OunalasUa Island, the nearest land, for an alleged violation of tl.e laws of the United States respecting seal-fishing in the water^ of Alaska. Thst wiien said seizure v.-as made the "Dolphin" was lawfully pursuing the objects ,)f said voyage. ^Vhen tlie Commander of the said "Richard Rush" made the said seizure he told me that his instructions were to seize everything he found in the sen, or wo.-ds to teat effect. 10. After seizure ul[ tiic firearms and ammunition on board the " Duiphin " wcie taken on board liie said "Richard Ru^h," a Lieutenant froir the latter placed on board the " Dolphin,'' under whose eonnnand the " Dolphin " was taken to the Illoolook llarbom at Ounalaska Island, in tlic United States' Territory of Alaska. Aite.- arrival there the 618 seai-skins on boanl the '• Dolphin" were, by order of the United Stutes' authorities thereat, taken out and stored. About 2,600 lbs. of salt were also taken out, for resalting tin seal-skins. '^)n tlie 20th day of said July the "Dolphin'' sailed from Illoolook Marbour on Or.iiulaska Island loi' S'tka, in the said Territory of .\laska, where she arrived on the 31st day of said nitmth of July. 11. On arrival at Sitka the "Dolphin" was taken charge of by United States' JViarshal Atkins, of the said Territory of Alaska. As master of the "Doljihiu " 1, with the mate, 'he said .lohn Reilly, were, on the I6di day of August tlu.n next following, taken before a Judge and bound over to appear for trial on the 22n(l day of .August, a,d. lt-'^7, on u charge then read over to U3 of having violated the law of the United States ot !i \ 15/ America resjiecling seal-fisiiiii^' in tlie waiers of Alasl<a. We so appeared on the 22iid day ol August for trial, and from day to day thereafter, for our trial on said charge. We so i.|)|)eared thereafter for trial day after day until the 9th day of September followin;?, when, without any trial on said charge ur any other charge whatever, we were unconditionally released. From oiu" arrival at Sitka on tiic 31st .July until the 16th day of August following, when we were taken before the Judge, no effort was made to restrain us or in any way deprive us of liberty. The crew of the " Dolphin " lived on board her all the time of their stay at Sitka, and when leaving to return to Victoria by the United States' stoam-ship " Richard Rush " took from the " Dolphin " sufficient provisions and supplies for the trip. 12. That hereto annexed, marked " (A)," is a statement of the value of the steam- schooner " Dolphin " at the time of her said seizure ; also of the articles, and groups of articles, comprising her outfit on and for said voyage, all of which, excepting only what had been consunu^l in the prosecution of the voyage, were on board at seizure, as well as considerable extra supplies and stores not mentioned in Exhibit (A) ; also of the amount of |)rei!iiunis paid for insurance on the hull, cargo, and outfit of the "Dolphin" for and during said voyage; also of the amount of wages paid to the crew and hunters of the "Dolphin " on said voyage up to the time of her seizure, and of the expenses of the master and mate in returning to Victoria from Sitk , ; md also of the number and value of the spal-skins taken from the " Dolphin " when seized. 13. The value placed on the said steam-schooner " Dolphin" in Exhibit (A), namely, 12,000 dollars, is based upon her original cost, the condition which she was in when seized, and the \alue of vessels of her class and equipment at Victoria aforesaid. The first cost of the " Dolphin " was over 1 6,000 dollars. At the time of her seizure she was in first-class order and condition, having been specially repaired and refitted for the voyage she then was on. Her insurance value for 1887 was 12,500 dollars, and she was insured on and during said voyage for 2,000/. The said value, namely, 12,000 dollars, is a fair and reasonable value for the " Dolphin" when seized. 14. The prices charged for the articles, and groups of articles, in Exhibit (A), com- prising the outfi* of the " Dolphin," are the actual cost prices of the said articles, and groups of articles, at the time of their purchase at Victoria for the purposes of said voyage. The price per skin chaiged in Exhibit (A) for the seal-skins on board the " Dolphin " when seized, namely, 5 dol. !iO c. per skin, was the market price at Victoria aforesaid at the close of the sealing season of 1887, and at which time the said seal-skins would have, had not such seizure taken place, been put upon the Victoria market. 15. That hereto annexed, marked " (C)," is a statement of the legal expenses incurred at Sitka and elsewhere, and also of personal expenses arising out of the seizure of the " Dolphin," the arrest of the master and mate, and the claims relating thereto. If). That Exhibit (D), hereto annexed, is a statement of the estimated loss and damage to the owner of the " Dolphin " by reason of her seizure and detention during A.D. 1887. The loss .*l)r 1887 is based upon a catch of 4,500 seals at the current price per seal-skin at Victoria at the close of the season of 1887. The "Dolphin," on her voyage, carried thirteen canoes and two sealing-boats, and a crew of thirty-one sailors and hunters. The estimated catch of 4,.'J0O seals by the "Dolphin" for said season is calculated on an average catch of 300 seals per boat and canoe for a full season ; and I verily belie\'e that said average catch per boat and per canoe for said season is a fair and reaso.iahic estimate for a full season's work. During the time the "Dolphin" was in Hohriiig's Sea, before capture, the weather was very unfavourable for seal-hunting, being both foggy and windy, and the catch for that period is no standard by which to judge of the ordinary and average catch of the season. There are frequently, all through the season, days at a time when no seals at all are taken, and, on the contrary, I have known a single boat to take from thirty to fifty seals ])er day in fine weather. 17. After the close of the sealing season, and during the succeeding months of October, November, December, and .January, had the "Dolphin" been in her owner's posspssiun, she would have been engaged in the coasting trade between the various ports and freighting places on the coasts of British Columbia. During said months the fair and reasonable earnings of the " Dolphin," after deducting; from the gross amount thereof the cost of wages and running expenses, would be at least 500 dollars per month. 18. The estimated loss for the season ui 1888 is based upon the said average catch of 4,500 seal-skins at the rate of 6^ dollars per skin, after deducting therefrom the cost of outfit, wages, and other necessary expenses of a hunting and fishing voyage based on the " Dolphin's " voyage of a.b. 1887. In order to fit up the " Dolphin " for such voyage ia 1 888, it is necessary that she be in her owner's possession on or before the 1st day of February of that year. If not at V'ietoria aforesaid about that (late, it will be impossible ;!'!^f» 1 I * m urn to i)iit her in order and condition lo leave oi» ►iwsh a voyage at tiie usual time, namely, about the ist .March. Durinfr tiie summer rnont}»« there is little or no coastinc; trade for a vessel of the class and equipment ot'ti>e " Dolphm,'" and unless she can be m at out on a regular full sean m of huntiui:^ and fisfains- her owner will practically lose the i)rotits of the season. And I verilv believe that 7,000 dollars ih ■, tair and reasonable estimate of the eainiufts of the '• Dolphin " on such a lull aeason'tt 'in nvmu; and lishin^ voyage. 19. Tliat lierHo annexed, marked " (E)," is a ntm .■m»<'iit of the imncipal sums on which Interest at 7 per cent, per annum is claimed, and tof ;irii« i'or whicr< it is so claimed. At cho time Nvhen the catcii ol the •' Dolphin " for the itea«ou of 1887 ■would, in the ordinary coursp of eveatc, have; been realized on, namelv on cv about the 1st October of that year, the minimuMi rate of interest on money ioi' cow*ii»ercis»f purposes at Victoiia aforesaid was, has continued to be, and now i^, 7 per i;ent. per Mnum 'JO. j'hat liereio ann^'xed, "nrked "(F)," is a 8tate»Vii*int siit^wiittj^ th* various articles, and jjfroups «t articles, compnM!*f .n the outfit of ihe " IX'J^hin, *nrt the ^alue thereof, as given ill Ivxhibit (A), which ^^o•t^l^ have been whollv or rfnuost wholly oonsumed on a full season's htanting and (ishiin; v .• ;«.jje, such as that contenvyiatetl by tlM " Dolphin " in 1H87. And J, Jara«H Doue;las Wainen foresaid, make tins 8ulei«n d««lif«iCion, conscieu- iiiousjy l)elievinff the same to be true, w*^ by virtue of the " Act resp oqjS ttg: K«tra-judicial Oaths." • (Signed) J. li). WARREN. Declared and aliinned before uie at the city of Ottawa, in the County of Csirteton, in the Province of Ontario, this 0th day of December, aj). IH87, and certilii^' under my otficial seal. (Sigiiedj D. O'Connor, Nolary Public for Ontario. E.thibit (A). Dol. c. 0«1. c. Value of stoam-gphooner '• Dolph in " at the time at ber Bewiire. l2,lK)n 01) Outfit— (Jrocoiips . . . . OHd 68 Atiiimmition , , • ■ a ■ •240 ::a Dry (JOO'Jb. . . • • • a9 3U Two iron «-atcr-tiink<i • • « . 28 00 Wiilor-c.i-ks ■ ■ ■ • S6 00 Ship (.'htindolry • • 2titf ua Th fiiiy-thrce tiliot j^uns • • . • WO W Four liflf* . • • • • 90 09 One 1) iiiib-gun fni- •.igimlliii;^ • • ■ • 60 0* Gun iniploiiR'iits niid tools ,, 10 m 'I'liiitofn ciiMoi's mill outfit .. 741 M Oui' t>eoiiiul-biiiid bout • • • • 7.5 10 One new bout (lotmncd). (I tons salt. . « • 13» IM» 4 1 toil" ooul . . 2I»7 00 Cookini; r:ni(;i' inid utensilH ■ • . • 74 00 Insuinnee — I'rcraititn on 2,00(»A insurance on hull , . . . I'i'ciniuin (III :.'.OO0/, imurimoe on outfit and cargo 821 «> 914 »> \\' 'j/i ■■ puid ('row and Imntcrii on voyngc up to date of seizure . . l'"ari - iiiid (Xpnisos of miistor and mntc, and five of crew, from Sit.' Vicloiin, B. ''. (118 i>('ul->kins on board " Dolphin " when seiied, at 6 dol. 60 r. pur skin Total, Kxliibit (A) .. .. .. (Signed) (Signed) D. O'Connou, Notary Public. to 4,100 711 1.335 99 1,899 5U 300 (10 3,3U9 lilO . . 23,125 2a J. D. WARREN. Ill M\ 159 Exhibit (C). Lc^'iil Fxpi ii-i'i ;it Sitl;.i in cniintclioii with tlic seizuiu and detention of tlio '• Dolphin/' and iirrcst of master and nmto >'.irann'l and other U'j;id fci's and expenses in and about the seizure of the '• l.'olphii!." and the claim a'Tsii'.'j- therefrom ., ,. ,, I'er.'onal expenses of the owner in the same connection, . •Jutal Dol. c. 100 00 760 on 2.50 Oil (SiiJtned) (Signed) 1,100 00 J. D. WARRKN. D. O'CoNNOii, Notary Public. Exiiibit (1)).— KsTiM.VTKi) I.dss and Daniiig-es to the owner oftiio "Dolphin" by reason of her Seizure and JJetention during A.u. 1887. Dol. f. I!ea^(l'lid)lu and probable catch of seal-skins for season 1887 . 4,:JO0 Less number on board when seized .. .• ., 618 I'alance, at 5 dol. 60 e. per skin . . 3,882 — 21,351 00 Keasonahle earniiiijs of the " Dolpliin " dtiring the monthfi of Oetoher, November, and December a.]). 1887, and .Januarj' A.J). 1H88, had .-lie been in owner's possession, vir., four months, at 500 dollars per montli , , . , . . . . , . . . K^timnird loss for sonlinir --eason of 1888, if "Dolphin" not in pofscs- sioii of owner on or before the 1st February, 1888 . . . . Total (Signed) (Jiigiied) 1). O'CoNNOU, l^otary Public. 2,000 00 . . 7,000 00 30,a5i 00 J. D. WARREN. Exhibit (E). — Estimate of the Principal Sums on which Interest at 7 percent, per annum is claimed, and the time for which it is so claimed. Value of the estimated catch of the " Dolphin' for the sea.son of 1887. from the 1st Octocer, 1887, about which time the said catch would have been realized on, vin., '1,500 seal-skins, ut 5 dol. 60 c. Cash expenditure for le};al and other expenses on account of said seizure prior to the 1st October, 1887 ., .. Total principal on wliicb interest at 7 ))er cent, per annum is claimed from the Ist October, 1887, to date of payment of claim Dol. c. 24,750 00 400 00 (Signed) D. O'Conxoe, Notary Public. (Signed) 25,150 00 J. D. WARREN. Inhibit (F).— Valud ot the Articles of the " Dolphin's " Outfit which would have been wholly or almost wholly consumed on a full hunting and sealing voyage. (jroceries Ammunition Dry goods Ship chandlery . . ."Salt . . Coal .. Wages . . . . Insui'ance premiums Dol. c. 985 68 240 •H 220 30 262 03 135 00 287 00 1,809 50 1,335 99 Memo. (Signed) Tot^d value consumed . , . . . • (Signed) D, O'CoNNon, Notary Public. ,. 5,;i74 72 J. D. WARREN. If the lull clai.li for the scaling season of 1887, as set out in Exhibit (D), be allowed, then the amount ot this Exhibit, 5,.374 dol. 72 c, will properly ap[)ear as u credit, and be deducted from the total ot Exhibit (A), of which it forms a part. f '■!■■,; r'f ^1 m ! > 1 ! I: 1 1 i !1 i h M 160 Inclosure 1 1 in No. !H). Declaration of Jainen Douglas Warren, City of Ottawa, Province of Ontario, Dominion of Canada. I, JAMES DOUGLAS WARREN, of the city of Victoria, in tlie Province of Bntisii (/olumbia of the Dominion of Canada, master mariner and ship-owner, do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows : — 1. 1 am the duly authorized agent, under power of attorney bearing date the 23rd day of November, a.d. 1887, in this behalf of the (inn of Gutnian and Frank, of the city of Victoria aforesaid, merchants, the said Gutman bein<; owner of the iiereinafter-mentioned schooner " Alfred Adams," and his partner, tlie said Frank, being equally interested with Gutman in the results of the sealing voyage hereinafter referred to. 2. The said schooner "Alfred Adams" is a British vessel of (J9f tons, registered at Victoria aforesaid. 3. That on or about the last of May, or early in .)une, a.d. 1887, the said schooner "Alfred Adams" sailed from the port of Victoria aforesaid, on a full hunting and sealing voyage in the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea. On or for said voyage the crew of the " Alfred Adams " consisted of William H. Dyer, master, a mate, and crew of twenty-four sailors and hunters, and fully equipped and provisioned. 4. That on the 10th day of July, a.d. 1887, the "Alfred Adams" entered Behring's Sea, and continued therein until the 6th day of August following, when, in north latitude 54° 48', and west longitude 1 G?" 49', then being about 62 miles from Ounalaska Island, the nearest land, and lawfully, as I verily believe, pursuing the objects ot the said voyage, the " Alfred Adams " was seized by the United States' steam-sliip "Richard Rush " for alleged violation of the laws of the United States respecting seal- fishing in the waters of Alaska. 5. That immediately after such seizure the Commander of the " Richard Rush " ordered the seal-skins then on board the "Alfred Adams," and all the firearms and ammunition, and Indian spears on board, to be taken out, and said seal-skins to the num'uei' of 1 ,386, and the firearms, ammunition, and spears, were taken from the said school jr " Alfred Adams," and conveyed to the said United States' steam-ship " Richard Rush." The ship's papers of the " Alfred Adams " were also taken from her by the Commandei of the " Richard Rush," and, as I verily believe, the master and mate of the " Alfred Adams" placed under arrest, though not actually imprisoned. 6. Hereto annexed, marked " (A)," is a statement of articles and value thereof, as claimed by the said Gutman and Frank, which were so taken by the " Alfred Adams." 7. That hereto annexed, marked " (B)," is an estimate of the loss claimed by the aiii Gutman and Frank, as resulting to them by reason of the seizure of the "Alfred Adams," herein set out, and of the legal and personal expenses ineuncd by rcasdii of said seizute and the claims arising therefrom. The price per skin charged for the estimated catch ot the "Alfred Adams" for a lull season, namely, 5 dol. 50 c. per skin, was the current market price per skin at Victoria at the close of the sealing season of 1887. The catch of the " Alfred Adams " for said season is estimated from an average catch per canoe ot 350 seals, the "Alfred Adams ' having on said vnyage ten canoes. 8. That hereto annexed, marked "(E)," is a stal«emcnt of the principal sums on which interest at 7 per cent, per annum is claimed, the rate per cent., and the time from and to which it is so claimed. At the time when the catch of the " Alfred Adams "' lor the season of 1867 would have been, in the ordinary course of events, renlized on, namely, on or about the 1st October, a.d. 1887, the minimum rate of interest on money liir commercial purposes at Victoria aforesaid was 7 per cent, per annum. And 1, James Douglas Warren aforesaid, make this solein.i declaration, con- scientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the "Act respeeliug Extra-judicial Oaths." (Signed) J. D. WAP. REN'. Declared and affirmed before me at the city of Ottawa, in tne County of Carleton and Province of Ontario, this 9th day of December, a.d. 1887, and certitied under n;y official seal. (Signed) D. O'Connou, Notary Public /or Ontario. lei ,'reof, as which and tn lor the iK'ly, on uy lor 11, con- sperliDg Exhibit (A).— Statement of the Articles, and the Value tlieieof, taken from the Schooner "Alfred Adams" by the United Slates' Steain-shiji "Richard Rush," in Behring's Sea, the 6th August, 1887. Do', c. 1,380 sc'iil-skiiiB, n'. 6(iol. &0c. per skin ,. .. .. .. 7,623 00 Four ki'gs of jiDwder at 10 dollars SCO shells . . Tliri'O ciihos caps nnd priiiK'iH ,. Nine biceeh-loadinn shot guns ,. .. .. Oni! Winchester rillo ,. .. .. ,, Twelve Indian spears , . . , , . . . Total value token 40 00 60 00 HO 00 45u 00 25 00 48 00 (Signed) (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public. 8.306 00 J. D. WARREN. Exhibit (B). — Loss to the Owner of the "Alfred Adams" by reason of her being forced to leave Behring's Sea and return to Victoria, British Columbia. Reasonable and probable catch of seals by the " Alfred Adams " fur the season of 1887 .. .. .. .. .. 3,500 Less number on board when seized, and c'i:irged in Exhibit (A) . . 1,386 Dol. c. Balance, at 5 dol. 50 c. per skin .. 2,114 - 11,627 00 Dol. c. liCgal expenses in connection with the claims arising from said seizure 300 00 Fi'rsonal expenses in the same connection .. ,. ., 290 00 600 00 Total (Signed) (Signed) D. O'CoNNOK, Notary Public. .. 12,127 00 J. D. WARREN. Exhibit (E). — Principal Sun) on which Interest at 7 per cent, per annum is claimed, and the Time for which it is so claimed. Dol. c. Value of the probable catch of the "Alfred Adams" for season of 1887, from the Ist October, 1887, on or about wiiich dote said catch would have been realized on, viz., 3 500 seal-skins, nt >j dol. 50 c. ,. ., .. 19,250 00 Total sum on which interest at 7 per cciii. per alinuin is claimed, from the 1st Outober, 1837, until time of payment .. .. .. ., 19,250 00 (Signed) J. D. WARREN. (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public. Inclosure 12 in No. 00. Declaration of James Douglas Warren, City of Ottawa, Province of Ontario Dominion of Canada. I, JAMES DOUGLAS WARREN, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia of the Dominion of Canada, master mariner and ship-owner, do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows : — 1. That I am the duly authori/.ed agent, under power of attorney bearing date the 25tli day of November, A.u. 1887, of .James J. Gray, of the said city of Victoria, ship- owner, and owner of the hereinafter-mentioned schooner " Ada." 2. That the said schooner " Ada " is u British vessel of 6.') tons, registered at the port of Shanghae, und was. at the time of her seizure hereinafter set out, .'5 years old. 3. That on or about the 16th day of June, A.D, 1837, the said schooner "Ada" cleared nt the port of Victoria aforesaid, on and for a full hunting and fishing voyage in the North Paciric Ocean and Behring's Sea. For said voyage tbr crew of the " Ada " [128] y i^-^ P^i ;> f 1^1; I ' ' i- 1 ; H ! ' K . 1 ffi: 1 B ' ■It 1 f 1 m ll iii i HI' » I Mil 1 I 162 consisted of James Gaudin, master, a mate, and twenty sailors and hunters, with two scnling-bonts and seven canoes, and fully equipped and provisioned for such voyage. 4. 'I'he "Ada" entered Behrinp's Sea on or about the Hitli day of July, A.i). 1887, and contiruied therein lawfully pursuing the objects of her voyage until the iSth day of August then next following, when, wliile so lawfully pursuing the objects ot her voyage in said sea about 15 miles northward from Ounalaska Island, wliicli said island was the nearest land, the said schooner was seized by tlie United States' steam-ship " Uear," and taken to Illoolook Harbour at said Ounalaska Island, in the United States' Territory of Alaska, and her voyage completely broker u]). o. At the time of said seizure the "Ada" had on board 1,876 seal-skins, which upon arrival at Illoolook Harbour aforesaid were taken from on board the "Ada "and stored on shore, after which, by order ol' the United States' authorities, the "Ada" was taken to Sitka, in said Territory of Alaska, together with the master, mate, and crew. G. That the said " Ada" arrived at Sitka on the 6th day of September, a.d. 1887, and on the 9th day of the said month her master and mate were, without being tried for any offence whatever, unconditionally released, but the " Ada" kept at Sitka, where she still .emains. 7. That hereto annexed, marked " (A)," is a statement showing the value of the " Ada " at the time of her said said seizure, and the value of her outfit on and for said voyage, also of the number and value of the seal-skins taken from the "Ada" when seized, and also of the expenses of the muster and mate of the " Ada " in returning from Victoria to Sitka. 8. The value placed on the "Ada" by her said owner at time of seizure, namely, 7,000 dollars, is a fair and reasonable value for the " Ada " when seized. She is a substantially built craft in every respect, and is one of the best sailing-vessels engaged in the scaling trade. The value of the " Ada's " outfit given in said Exhibit, namely, 2,500 dollars, is less th:tn that of any of the other seized vessels from the fact that the "Ada's" hunters were mostly Indians, whose canoes and outfits were returned after such seizure, and said outfit not including wages. 9. The price charged for the seal-skins taken from the "Ada "when seized is Hie current market price of seal-skins at Victoria at the close of the sealing season of 1887. 10. That the Exhibit (C), hereto annexed, shows the legal and personal expenses incurred by the owner of the "Ada" by reason of the seizure and detention of the said schooner "Ada," and the arrest and detention of the master imd mate, and the claims arising therefrom. 11. That Exhibit (D), hereto annexed, is i staten)ent of the estimated kss and damage to the owner of said schooner " Ada" by reason of her said seizure and detention during 1887, and tlie loss for 1888 it she is detained beyond the 1st February, 1888. 12. The claim of 1,000 se.il-skins as the probable addhional catch of the "Ada" for the balance of the scaling season, had sin: not been seized, is a fair and reasonable estiniate, and with her actual catch, makin:; a total for the season of 2,876, which, as she carried two hiiiits, seven canoes, and twenty hunters, cannot be considered an excessive estimate. 13. Dnrin,": the months of October, November, December, and January following the close of the sealing season, or the greater Tuart thereof, had the " Ada " been in her owner's possession, she would have bctii engagetl in the general coasting and freighting trade on and about the coasts of British ('olimd)ia, and the fair and reasonable earnings of the " Ada " during said nmnths, after deducting from the gross amount thereof the cost of wages and lunning expenses, would be at least .'jOO dollars per month. 11'. In east; ihe " Ada " be imt delivered into her owner's possession at Victoria on or before the 1st day of K( necessary lepaiis and lefittiu: !)ruary, a.d. 1888, it will be impossible fo her the in time to start out at the usual date, about the 1st Mareii, on a full season's hunting and fishing. As during tlie summer months there is little coasting and freighting trade in which the " Ada" could be eniploy.-d, her owner would, in the event of her not being ready in time for a regular hunting and fishing voyage, practically lose the greater part of the season, and the earnings of the "Ada" for such lull season, alter deducting therefrom the cost of outfit, wages, and other running expenses, would be at least, under eireuuistances, 0,000 dollars. 1 T). Tliiit hen to annexed, marked " (E)," is a statement of the principal sums on which interest at 7 per cent, is claimed, and the time from and to wh'cli it is so claimed. At the elosi' of the sealing season of 1887, when the catch of the "Ada," in the ordinary course of events, would have been realized on, the minimu n rate of interest on money for commercial iiurposcs was, has continued to be, and now is, 7 per cent, per annum. And I, James Douglas Warren aforesaid, make this solemn declaration, conscientiously ■M 163 believing the same to be true, and bv virtue of the " Act respecting Rxtra-iudicial Oaths." (Signed) J. D. WAHllEN. Declared and affirmed before me at the city of Ottawa, in the County of Carleton and Province of Ontario, this 9th day of December, a.d. 1887, and certified under my official seal. (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public for Ontario. ,')':§ Is-: ' Exhibit (A). Valuu of tliu scliooiKT " Adii" nt the timo of her seizure by the United Staten' stenin-shiii "Bcnr," tlie 25tli August, 1887 .. Value of " Ada's" outfit at tlio snmo time Value of seal-skins on liouril M seizure, viz., 1,876 skins, nt 5 ilol. 50 c. per skin .. Passage and expenses of master of " Ada " from Sitka to Victoria . . Total, Exhibit (A) (Signed) (Signed) D. O'CoNNOii, Nolan/ Public. Dol. c. 7,000 00 2,500 00 10,.'iI8 00 100 00 19,1118 00 J. D. WARHEN. Exhibit (C). Lej»al expenses nt Sitka in connection with said seizure . , , . Counsel and other legal fees and expenses, exclusive of the above, in reference to tlie seizure and claims arising therefrom . . Porsonal expenses of the owner in the same connection , . . . , , Dol. 0. 100 00 750 00 250 00 (Signed) Total.. (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public. 1,100 00 J. D. WARREN. Exhibit (D). Estimated additional catch of seal-skins by schooner "Ada ' had she not been seized, viz. : 1,000 skins, at 5 dol. 50 c. Loss to owner of " Ada " by reason of her detention during the months of October, November, and December a.d. 1887, and January 1888, during which she would have been engaged iu the coasting trade, namely, four mouths, at 500 dollars each IV owner not put in possession of " Ada" on or before the 1st February, 1888, 80 that she maybe fitted out for hunting and fishing voyage of 1888, reasonable and probable profit on season of 1888 .. ., (Signed) Total, Exhibit (D) (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public. Dol. e. 5,.'iOO 00 2,000 00 (5,000 00 13,500 00 .1. D. WARREN. Exliibit (E). — Principal Sums on which Interest is claimed at 7 per cent, per annum, and the Time for which it is so claimed. Dol. e. Value of the proliable full catch uf "Ada" for season of 18H7, viz., 2,87(1 skins, nt 5 dol. 50 c. .. .. .. .. .. .. 16,818 00 Cash outlay prior to the 1st October, 1887 .. .. .. .. 200 00 Total principal ou which interest at 7 ])er cent, per annum is claimed, from the Ist October, 1887, to date of payment .. .. .. . 10,018 00 (Signed) (Signed) 1). O'Connor, Notary Public. J. D. WARREN. [128] Y 2 ; 'i; ,1 :;.;.j.: MH : 1^4 No. 91. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received February 3.) Sir, Downing Street, February 3, 1888. WITH reference to previous correspondsnce respecting the British sealin;;-vessels seized in Behring's Sea, I am directed by the Secretary of State for the Colonies to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, reporting that orders have been issued by the United States' Government for the return to their owners of the vessels "Onward," "Thornton," and " Carolina," seized in 1 886. I am, &c. (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. Inclosure 1 in No. 91. ifa II' !1P I The Marquis of Lansdowne to Sir H. Holland. Sir, Government House, Ottawa, January 19, 1888, IN reference to my former despatches upon the subject of the seizure of Canadian sealing-vessels during the years 1886-87 by United States' cruziers for fishing in Behring's Sea, I have the honour to report that my Minister of Marine and Fisheries has received from the Customs authorities at Victoria an intimation addressed by the United States' Marshal at Sitka to Mr. Spring, the owner of the "Onward," one of the three vessels seized in 188(), to the effect that that vessel, as well as the "Thornton " and "Carolina," with their tackle, apparel, and furniture, as they now lie in the harbour of Ounalaska, arc to be restored to their owners. A copy of this intimation is inclosed herewith. 2. The information received by my Minister is to the effect that the condition of these three vessels, owing to the length of time during which they have been lying on the shore, is now such as to render it questionable whether they could, under present circum- stances, be repaired and removed with advantage. The difficulty of doing this would be increased, from tliefact that the vessels have been released at a season of the year in which, owing to the great distance between Victoria and Ounalaska, it would be scarcely possible for the owners to fit out steamers for the purpose of going up to Ounalaska to repair their vessels and bring them home. 3. I also inclose herewith copy of an extract from an American newspaper (the name and date of publication are not given), from which it would appear that the District Judge has made an order for the sale of the arms and ammunition taken from the three schooners in question upon the supposed ground that, as the instructions sent by the United States' Government to Sitka for the liberation of the vessels made no mention of the arms and ammunition on board of them, the Court concluded that these should be confiscated and sold. It would seem from the same extract that the remaining vessels held in Alaska are not included in the order sent by the United States' Government for the release of the " Thornton," " Carolina," and " Onward," and arc therefore likely to be confiscated and sold with their contents and e(|uitment. 5. I have already dwelt at sufficient length upon the extent of the hardships involved to the crews and the owners of these vessels by the action of the United States' Govern- ment, and I will only, upon the present occasion, remind you that another fishing season is approaching, and that, as far as my Government is aware, no declaration has been made by that of the United States in regard to the policy which it intends to adopt during the course of the year which has just commenced. I nave &c* (Signed) ' LANSDOWNE. iMi! Inclosure 2 in No. 91. Mr. B. Atkins to Mr. C. Spring. Office of United Slates' Marshal, Sitka, District of Alaska, December 5, 18s7. 1 TAKE pleasure in inforiuing you and other owners of the schooners seized in the Behring's Sea by United States' steamer " Corwin," that I am in receipt of orders from Sir, I i' 168 Washington to restore to their owners the schooners "Onward," "Thornton," and "Carolina," their tackle, apparel, and furniture, as they now lie in the harbour of Ounalaska. Orders for their release have been forwarded to their custodian at Ounalaska. Very respectfully, (Signed) BARTON ATKINS, United States' Marshal, District of Alaska. Inclosure 3 in No. 91. Extract from American Newspaper {name and date unknown). Alaska News. — Judge Dawson has made an order for the sale, at Juneau, of the arms and ammunition taken from the British schooners "Thornton," " Carolina," and "Onward," captured last year by the " Corwin." Attorney- General Garland sent instruc- tions to Sitka to have the three vessels liberated, but, as he made no mention of the arms and ammunition, the Court concluded that they must be sold, and gave directions accordingly. The Marshal has further been authorized to sell the schooner " W. P. Sayward " (British), and the " Alpha," " Kate," and " Anna," and "Sylvia Handy" (American), together with their boats, tackle, and furniture. By stipulation entered into last September between Mr. Delaney, acting for the United States, and Mr. Drake, Q.C., representing the Canadian Government, the remaining l^ritish schooners cannot be sold until the expiration of three months from the Uth January next, and then only by the District Attorney giving the owners ninety days' notice. Application granted : — In the cases of the schooners " Lily L.," W. P. Sayward," " Annie," " AUie J. Alger," "Alpha," "Kate and Anna," and "Sylvia Handy," an application made by Attorney W. Clark, counsel for the owners, for leave to appeal to the Supreme Court of the United Slates, was granted. A motion presented by the same attorney for a stay of proceedings for three montiis in the cases of the " W. P. Sayward," "Alpha," " Kate and Anna," and "Sylvia Handy," was refused by the Court, on the ground that the owners had ample time in which to prepare for their appeals, and it was entirely their own fault if they had not done so. .it No. 92. Colonial Office lo Foreiyn Office. — (Received February 13.) (Extract.) Downing Street, February 13, 1888. WITH reference to previous correspondence respecting the claims of British subjects ngainst the Government of the United States arising out of the seizure of or interference with certain sealing vessels in the Behring's Sea, t am directed by Secretary Sir Henry Holland to transmit to you, to be laid before Lord Salisbury, copies of two furtlier despatches from the Governor-General relating to further claims in the eases of the vessels "Thornton," "Carolina," and "Onward," and of the vessels "Dolphin," "W. P. Sayward," "Anna Beck," " Grace," and "Ada." Inclosure 1 in No. 92. The Marquis of Lansdoivne to Sir H. Holland. Sir, Government House, Ottawa, January 90, 1888. WITH reference to my despatches of the 2nd and 23rd December last, transmitting revised statements of the claims of the owners of the " Thornton," " Carolina," and "Onward," seized in Behring's Sea during the season of 1886 by the United States' Revenue cutter "Corwin," 1 have the honour to forward herewith, for presentation to the United States' Government, a copy of an approved Report of a Committee of the Privy Council, submitting a revised statement of the claims of the masters and mates of the above-mentioned vessels. My Minister of Murine and Fisheries considers that these revised claims are Just ir 1:1 it N 1 li 1 [i If: ; I- i f' !ii .'n a lfi6 and reasonable, and expresses the hope tliiit prompt reparation may be made to those persons for the sutierini^s anil losses they have sustained. I have, &c. (Signed) LANSDOWNE. Inclosurc 2 in No. 92, Report of a Committee of t lie Honourable the Prlrii Council for Canada, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General In Council, January Vl, 1888. ON a Report dated 5th January, 1888, from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, statiiif?, wit!) reference to the Minute i . 'ouncil of the 3rd January, 1887, tran-^mittiiii^ ciuimsofthc owners, masters, and mntct, nthe sealing-schooncrs "Thornton," "Carolina," and " Onward," which were seized in tlie Behring's Sea in August, 1886, by the United States' rcvenuc-cnttcv "Corwiii," and the despatch from tlu; Secretary of State for tlio Colonics, dated 14th Septeinbcr, 1887, rctin'ning these for revision, as well as to the Minutes of Council of the 29th November and 20th December, 1887, transmitting the revised claims of the schooners "Tliurnton" and "Carolina" and of the "Onward" respectively, so far as the owners are concerned, that, tlic personal claims for illegal arrcit and imprisonment of the masters and mates of the above-mentioned vessels having been referred back to tlie parties interested, tiiey have consented to accept a reduction of one- half the original claim as submitted : They would therefore be as follows : — Scliooiior " Tlioiiitoii " — Hums OuUcrmscn, niiistcr Ilcni'v Normiiu, mate Scliooiior " Cnrolina " — James Ogilvic, master James Black, mate Schooner " Onward" — Daniel Miinroc, master lolin Margotich, mate Dol. 0. 4,000 00 2,.'J00 00 2,500 00 2,500 00 4,000 00 2,500 00 'I'hc Minister, believing these rcvisetl claims to be just and reasonable, recommends (hat they be I'orwarded for presentation to the United Slates' Government, and expresses the hope tluit prompt reparation may be made to those persons for the sufferings and losses they have sustained. The Committee advise that your Excellency he moved to forward the claims herein mentioned to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for transniissiuii to the United States' Government. All which is respectfully submitted for youv Excelleuey's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. Inclosure 3 in No. 92. The Marquis of Lansdowne to Sir H. Holland. %; Government House, Ottaim, January 18, 1888. WITH reference to my despatch of the 5th instant, transmitting detailed statements i)f the claims of the owners and agents of the Canadian sealing-vessels seized in Behring's Sea during the past season, I have the honour to forward herewith a copy of an approved Report of the Committee of the Privy ('ouneil, submitting the personal claims of the masters and mates of the " Dolphin," " W. P. Sayward," " Anna Beck," " Grace," and "Ada." My Minister of Marine and Fisheries is of o|)inion that the claims submitted arc just and reasonable, and recommends that they be presented to the United States' Government with the hope that prompt reparation may be made to these persons for the sufferings and losses they have sustained. I have, &c. (Signed) LANSDOWNE. \H7 Iiiclosure 4 in No. 92. Tirpnrt of (I ('nmmUtpf of the Honournhh the Prl'-i/ Council, approved bi/ lii.i lincellency the Ciovfnior-Opiieml in Cnunril, Junuani 12, IS8S, ON a R('i)oil, fliitrd the 2ntli Dcremlior, 1H87, from the Minister of Marine nnd Fisiierios, siihniitfiii;;, in conncc'lon witii tin- seizures of Canaiiian seaiintj-vessels in lk'liniii,''s Sea (Inline; the scaso'.s of 1SS(i and 1SS7, the personal ciniina of tiie lollowinj,' innsfei s and mates of the sciz-ed vessels ; — Scliooiipr '■' llolphiii" — WiuTcii, ciipliiin ,, Jolin Kcilly, niaU'. , Schooiu'v " W. P. Suywaid" — Geo. K. Ferey, oni)tnin , A. D. Lninij;, nmtu Schooner " Anna licck " — liouis Olson, ciiptaiii Miohnol Keefc, miito Scliouncr " Grace " — AVm. Petit, ciiptiiiii Schooner " Ada " — Charles A. Liuulberg, mute Dol. p. 2,1!.'!.'; no 1,000 00 2,0(10 00 1,000 00 2,000 00 1,000 00 2,000 00 2,000 00 The Minister believes that these claims are just and reasonable, and rcconmiends that they be forwarded to Her Majesty's Government for presentation to the Government of the United Stales, and he expresses the hope that prompt reparation may bo made to these persons for the suffcriiiifs and losses they have sustained. The Conmiittee advise tliat your Exeellency be moved to forward the claims herein mentioned to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for transmission totl 2 United States' Government. All which is respectfullv submitted for your Excellencv's approval. (Signed) .JOHN J. McGKK, Clerk, Privy Council. '■iin Declaration, City of Ottawa, Province of Ontario, Dominion of Canada. I, James Douglas Warren, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia of the Dominion of Canada, master mariner and ship-owner, do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows : — 1. That I was master of the British steam-schooner "Dolphin," of Victoria afore- said, on the 12tb day of July, a.d. 1887, the said schooner on that day being in that jjait of the North Pacific Ocean called Behring's Sea, lawfully engaged in seal-lisliing, 2. That on the said 12th day of July, A.n. 1887, the said steam-schooner "Dolphin " was seized by the United States' steam-shi|) " Richard Rush," and I was made a |)risouer and taken on board of the said steam-ship " Richard Rush " with the ship's papers of the said "Dolphin." ?). That shortly afterwards on the same day I was sent baek on board the " l)()i|)hin," wliieii, in command of an officer from the said " Richard Hush," was taken to Ounalaska Island, in the United States' territory of .Maska, from \\hi(!li place u lew days after 1 was sent — with the said steam-schooner " Dolphin," in command of an officer from the said "Richard Rush" — to Sitka, in the said territory of Alaska. On arrival at Sitka 1 was handed over to the United States' Marshal of the territory of Alaska, in whose custody I remained from the 1st day oi' August, A.». 18S7, until the I'ith day ol' August instant, when I was taken '.'fore the United States' District Court at Sitka, formally charged with having violated tiie law'S of the United States relating to seal fishing in the waters of Alaska, and upon my ow:i recognizance of 500 dollars released to appear for trial on said charge on the 22n,l day of August then instant, and to ap[)car from day to day thereafter until I should be su trici'. I did so appear or. tl.e days so ordered until the 9th day of September following, when, without so being tried on said charge, or any other charge or offence whatever, I was unconditionally released by order of the Judge of said Court, and for the said illegal arrest and imprisonment I claimed as damages the sum of 2,000 dollars. 4. That at the same time I was arrested, as aforesaid, one John lleilly was mate of the said steam-schooner "Dolphin," and I am the duly authorized agent in this behalf of the said John lleilly, mate of the said " Dolphin." 5. The said John Reilly was arrested, taken to Onnaln.ska, thence to Sitka, delivered P I ■-;\^^ .^.^^Tc* IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-S) 4 2 = I^|2j8 12.5 ■^ Uii 12.2 S lis IM iiiii^ im 1.25 jU|,.6 %,_ 0>i '7^ ^;. .^^>.> %:"r / ^ '/ Photographic Sciences Corporation S3 WIST WA*"^? STP'-IT WEBSTiR.N.Y. \»:.^\, (716) •72-4S03 ■1>^ \ ^ iV \\ ^v ^^^' ' i\ '^ . f 168 into tlic custody of the United States' Marslial of Alaska, arraigned, allowed bail, an'i finally released at the sanie place, time, and manner in which I was, as set out in the declj ■ ration, und the said John Rcilly, by me, his duly authorized agent in this behalf, clair,.s 1,000 dollars as damages for said illegal arrest and detention. (}. That after arrival of said steam-schooner " Dolphin " at Ounalaska aforesaid, after her seizure, I agreed with the Commander of the said " Kichard Rush " to navigate the said " Dolphin " from Ounalaska to Sitka, for which purpose I engaged the crew on board the '• Dolphin " after seizure, agreeing to pay them their ordinary wages therefor. I did so navigate the said " Dolphin from Ounalaska to Sitka with tne said crew, but I have never been paid therefor, nor have the said crew been paid the wages promised and agreed to be paid tliem therefor. The said trip from Ounalaska to Sitka took about fifteen days, and the amount due me for said services for myself and crew amount to 160 dollars, which said sum I hereby claim as justly due me for such services. 7. That at the time I agreed with the said Commander of the " Richard Rush " to navigate the said " Dolphin " from Ounalaska to Sitka I also agreed to furnish officers and crews to navigate the screw-schooners " Grace " and " Anna Beck " from Ounalaska to Sitka. I did so provide for their navigation from and to said places, and agreed to pay their said officers and crew ordinary wages for their services in so doing. The " Grace " and "Anna Beck" were so taken from Ounalaska to Sitka; the voyage took about fifteen days, and the amount due to muster and mates and crew therefore 160 dollars for each of the said vessels " Grace " and " Anna Beck," and I claim therefore 320 dollars for said services. I also claim 1C5 dollars for similar services in navigating the schooner " W. P. Sayward," by her master and crew, from Ounalaska to Sitka. The said schooner " W. P. Sayward " and stcam-scliooners " Grace," " Dolphin," and " Anna Beck " are still at Sitka, and are about one-half the distance from Victoria they were when at Ounalaska, and can be got at any time of the year, while, had they remained at Ounalaska, they could only have been reached during the summer mouths, and then at a cost two or three times as great as now. 8. That I am the duly authorized agent of the owner of and manager of the said schooner " W. P. Say ward " and of the said steam-schooners " Grace," "Dolphin," and " Anna Beck." And I make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the Act respecting extra-judicial oaths. (Signed) J. D. WARREN. Declared and affirmed before me at the city of Ottawa, in the County of Carlcton ciui Province of Ontario, this 9th day of December a.d. 1887, and certified under my offi seal. (Signed) D, O'Connor, Notary Public for Ontario, I Exhibit (A.) James I). Worrell's vluiiii tor illegal arrest . • • • • • > < John Reillv's clnini for illegal arrost James D. barren's claim for navigating steam -scliooncr " Dolphin " from Ouna- laska to Sitkn . . . . . . . . . . . . James D. Warren's claim for navigating stuam-schuoners " Grace " and " Anno Hock " James D. Warreu'n claim for navigating steam-schooner " W. P. Sayward" Total .. .. .. .• •• .. (Signed) (Signed) D. O'Connor, Notary Public. Del. c. 2,000 00 1,000 00 ICO 00 .120 00 155 00 .. 3,635 00 J. D. WARREN. ! ? ! Damugut claimed by George R. Ferey, Master of the schooner •' \V. P. Say ward, " for illegal arrest and detention en board the United States' steam-ship " Rush," and at Sitka, from July 'J to September 10, 1887. British Coluuibia, to wit. I, GEORGE U. FEREY, of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia, Dominion of Cannda, ninster mariner, and master of the schooner " W. P. Saywarl," solemnly and sincerely declare as follows : — 169 1. That I was on the 9th July, 1SS7, master of the schooner " W. P. Sayward"; at tiiat (inte the sitid schooner was in the Bchrins^'s Sea. 2. 'I'hat on the said 9th July the said sciiooncr '•' W. P. Sayward" was seized by the United States' sleain-ship " Rush," and I was made u prisoner and taken on hoard the said steam-shi|) " Husli " with the papers of tlic said schooner " W. P. Sayward." 3. The Captain of the said stoam-ship " Rush " tohl me I was in his charge, and must obey his oivlcrs ; lie sent me bacl* to tiie jaid schooner " VV. P. Sayward," made her last to the " llusii,'' and towed her to Ounaiasiia, from which place we were distant at time of said seizure about 80 miles. 4. When 1 arrived at Uunalaska aforesaid 1 was j;iven into the charge of a Deputy United States' Marsha!, and next day I, in tin- said schooner " W. P. Sayward," in charge of a Deputy Marshal, w"^ sent on my way to Sitka, where 1 arrived on the 22nd July, and was tiiere delivered into the custody of th'; Unite! States Marshal. 5. That on the 23rd July i was brought before Judge Dawson, the Judge of the District Court at Sitka, and placed under bond of 50!) dollars to appear before the said District Court on the 22nd August, lb87. 1 had to remain at Sitka from the said 23rJ July, and on tlie 22nd August, 1887, 1 appeared before the said District Court, and so on fiDin day to day until the 10th September, when Judge Dawson aforesaid discharged me, stating he had received instructions from Washington to release all parties connected ttitli the seized sealers, G. I claim as damages for my said illegal arrest and detention the sum of 2,000 ilo!!ars. 7. And I make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, and bv virtue of the "Oaths Ordinance, 1869." (Signed) GKORGB R. FKRKY. Declared bcibre inc at Victoria, this '2nd Novf^mber, 1887, in |)ursuancc of the Oaths Ordinance, )8G9. (Signed) Chas. K. Poolev, Notanj Public, Victoria, British Columbui. |i/':H «;«»! Declaration, City cf Ottawa, Province of Ontario, Dominion of Canada. • 1, James Douglas Warren, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British Colund)ia, (ii tlie Dominion of Canada, master mariner and ship-owner, do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows: — 1 . That I am the duly authorized agent in this behalf of Andi-ew D. Laing, of the city of Victoria albrcsaid, mate and partner of the British schooner " W. P. Sayward," as the time of her seizure as stated herein. 2. That on the »Jth July, a.d. 1887, the said schooner " W. P. Sayward," while in liclning's Sea, in north latitude 54° 43', and west longitude 167° 51', and lawfully engaged in scaling, she was seized by the United States' steam-ship " Richard Rush," and the said .Andrew D. Laing, mate of the said schooner " W. P. Sayward," was then placed under arrest by an olticer of and from the said '* Richard Rush." 3. That, by authority of the Commander of the said " Richard Rush," the said mate was taken first to Ounalaska Island, in the United States' Territory of Alaska, and thence to Sitka, in said Territory of Alaska, and there arraigned for trial on the 22nd August, 1887, being admitted to bail in the meantime. The said Andrew D. Laing pleaded "not guilty" to the charge preferred against him, namel), that of violating the laws of the United States respecting seal fishing in the waters of Alaska, and appeared on the said 22nd August for trial, and from day to day thereafter until the 9th September following, when without liaving been tried on said charge, or for any offence whatever, he was unconditionally released. 4. And the said Andrew D. Laing, by me, his duly authorized agent in this behalf, claims 1,000 dollars as damages for such illegal arrest. And 1, James Douglas Wavren aforesaid, make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the '■ Act resjiecting extra-judicial oaths." (Signed) J. D. WARREN. Declared and nilirmed before me, at the city of Ottawa, in the county of Carleton and I'rovince of Ontario, this Uth December, 1887, and certified under my olllcial seal. (Signed) J. M. \lKi.DMV.ion, Notary Public for Ontario. ,,, ; [1-28] S 'HI ■ f'-iU i I' u I , 170 Declaration. City of Ottawa, Province (if Or >rio, Dominion of Canada. I, James Douglas Warren, dI ilic city of \'icloria, in tlie I'rovince of Uritish Colunibia, of the Dominion of ('anatlsi, do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows: — 1. That I am the duly autiiorized itcrent of Louis Olsen, of the said city of Victoria, in this behalf, master mariner, and master of the steam-schooner " Anna Beck " at the time hereinafter mentioned. 2. That on the 2nd July, a.u. 1887, the said "Anna Beck," while in Bchrinjt's Sea in north latitude .'i4'. 58' ami west lonj^itude 167° 26', and lawfully engaged in seal fishing', was seized by the Uniccd States' steaui-shij) " Richard Rush," and the said Louis Olsen, as master thereof, made prisoner by an officer of and from said steam-siiip "Richard Rush." 3. An armed crew from the said "Richard Rush" took charge of the said "Ann:i Beck," and took her and her crew to Ounalaska, in the Territory of Alaska. The said Louis Olson was kept in custody at Ounalaska until the .')th day of said July, when ho was sent as a prisoner to 8itka, in the said Territory of Alaska, on board the American schooner " Challenge," in charge of an officer from tlic said " Richard Rush." 4. After his arrival at Sitka the said master of the " Anna Beck " was arraigned before a Judge of the District Court on a charge of having violated the laws of the United States respecting seal fishing in the waters of Alaska. He pleaded " not guilty " to said charite, and was ordered to appear for trial on the 22nd day of August then instant, and therta'ter from day to day until so tried, in the meantime being allowed out on bail on his own le'.oguizance for 600 dollars. He so appeared for trial on the said 22n(l day of August and day by day thereafter, until the 9th day of September following, when, witliout being so tried on said charge or any other charge whatever, he was unconditionally released, and the said Louis Olsen, by me, his agent in his behalf, claims 2,000 dollars as damuges for such illegal arrest and detention. And I, James Douglas Warren aforesaid, make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, and bv virtue of the "Act respecting extra-judicial oaths." (Signed) " J. b. WARREN. Declared and affirmed l)efore me, at the city of Ottawa, in the county of Carleton, this 9th day of December, a.v. 1887, and certified under my official seal. (Signed) J. M. l?ALDi!asoN, Notary Public for Ontario. Sir, Liniijlei/ iilreet, Victoria, B.C., November 30, 1887. We have the lionour to forward herewith the claim of Mr. Michael Keefe against ti:e American Govermnent for damages for illegal arrest and detention by the American sleani- ship " Rush " while he was acting as mate of the steam-vessel " Anna Beck." We have, &c. (Signed) DAVIE and POOLEY, Barristers, S;c. The Hon. the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, Ottawa. : } V Damuyes claimed by Michuel Weefc, Mule of the Steam-resgel "Anna Beck," for Ulajal arrest and detention by the United Ulales' Steam-ship " Rush," and at Sitka, from July 20 to September 10, 1887. British Columbia, to wit. I, Michael Keefe, of Victoria, in the province of British Columbia, master mariner, and chief male of the steam-vessel "Anna Beik," solennUy and sincerely declare as follows :— 1. That, 1 was on the 2nd day ot July 1S87 chief mate of the steam-vessel "Anna Beck ;" at that date the said steam-vessel was in the Behring's Sea engaged in seal-fisliin^ 2. That on the said 2nd day of July the said steam-vessel "Anna Beck" was seized by the Uniteil States' steam-ship " Rush," ar.ii I was made a prisoner and taken on board the said steam-ship '• Anna l?eck," in charge of an armed crew from the said stea.n-siiiji "Rush," to Ounalaska, where we arrived on tiie 3rd day of July 1887. 3. At the time of the said seizure the said steam-vessel ''Anna Beck" was 73 miles from the nearest land. 4. When we arrived at Ounalaska we were kept in custody by the said steam-slii|) "Rush" until the .5th day of July, when I and the rest of the crew of the said steam-vessel " Anna Beck " were transferred to the American schooner " Challenge," and were sent to 171 ritisliColuiiil)ia, of Carlcton, this Banisters, S;t'. ieck," for Ulvijnl I lit Silha, from Sitka, Alaska, in charge of n quartermaster from the said stenm-ship "Rush," where we arrived on the 20th dny of July 1887. 5. On the 22nd day of July I was taken before Jud-^e Dawson, of the United States' District Court, by the United States' Marsbal, and was cbarijed with taking seals illegally in Alaskan waters. I pleaded " not guilty " to tlie charge, and I was released on my own bond of 500 dollars to appear when called upon after tiie arrival of the " Rush," which was expected to arrive in August. G. On the 27th day of July I appeared before the said Judge Dawson and told him I had no means of supporting myself, and he then handed me over to the custody of the United States' Marshal, in whose custody I remained until the lOlh day of Sei)tember, 18S7, when the said Judge Dawson sent fur mv to court, when he released me, stating he had received a telegiam from Washington instructing him to release all parties connected with the seized vessels. 7. I claim as damages lor my said illegal arrest and detention the sum of 1,000 dollars. H. And I make this solemn declaration, conscicntionslv believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the "Oaths Ordinance, 18(.i9." (Signed) MICHAKL KKEFE. Declared before me at Victoria, Briti-.h Columbia, this Kith day of November, 1887, in pursuance of the "Oaths Ordinance, 18()i)." (Signed) Chas. E. Pooliiv, Nolari/ Public. k " was 73 miles Dnmngcs claimed by William Petit, Master of the lUenm-vessel " Grace," for illegal arrest and detention on linnrd the United States' 8teani-sliiD " liusli," and at Sitka, from July 17 to Septemher 10, 1887. British Columbia, to wit. I, William Petit, oi' Victona, in the Province of British Columbia, master mariner, and master of the steam-vessel " (jrace," solemnly and sincerely declare as follows : — 1. That I was the master of the steam-vessel "Grace" on the 17tli day of July, 1887 ; the said vessel was at that date in the Hchring's Sea, engaged in seal-fishing. 2. That on the said 17tb day of July the said steam-vessel " Grace" was seized by t!ie United States' steam-ship " Rush," and I was made a iirisonei- and taken on board the said steam-ship " Rush" with the papers of the said steam. vessel " Grace." 3. That I was again sent back to my said steam-vesse; " (iracc," and an officer and two men from the said steam-ship "Rush" were placed in charge of her; and the said steam-vessel " Grace" was taken in tow by the said steam-ship " Rush," and brought into Ounalaska, which place at the time of seizure was 93 miles distant. 4. From Ounalaskf. aforesaid I was taken down to Sitka in my said steam-vessel " CJrace," in charge of i Deputy United States* Marshal ; and when I arrived at Sitka, on the Ist day of August, 1887, I was handed over to the custody of the United States' Marshal. 5. That I remained in the custody of the said United States' Marshal at Sitka until the 17th day of August, when 1 was arraigned before the District Court, and was remanded on my own b lil of 500 dollars until the 21&t day ol August ; and I appeared hetore the said Court on the said 2l8t day of August, and thence on from day to day until the 10th day of Sc[)tembcr, 1887, when Judge Dawson, the Judge of the said District Court, discharged me, stating he had instructions from Washington to release all parlies connected with the seized sealers. 6. And for the said illegal arrest and detention I claim as damages the sum of 2,000 dollars. 7. And I make this solenm declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of "The Oaths Ordinance, 1869." (Signed) WILLIAM PETIT. Declared before me, at Victoria, (his 2i d day of November, 1887, in pursuance of " The Oaths Ordinance. 1869." (Signed) (/HAS. E. Poolry, Notary Public, Victoria, British Columbia. 1 •I' r i» '4 I Si' ry f^ I !■ Ilthj [128] ' U.t Z2 !!1!i I . 172 Damages claimed by Charles August Lumlhirg, Chief Male of the British Schooner " Ada," for illegal arrest and detention by the United States' Revenue Cutter " Bear," and lnj the United States' Marshal at Sitka, fom August 25 to Oilober I, 1887. British Columbia, to wit. I, Charles August Lundberg, of Victorin, Britisli Coluinbio, do solemnly and sincerely declare : — 1. That I sailed from the city of Vietorin, as chief mute of the British schooner "Ada," on the 17th day of June, 1S87, on a st'alinu; vovagc 1o the Bchrinu's Sea. 2. That on the 'J.'ith day of August, 18t^7, in the liehiinu;"s Sea, an<l wliilf enirafed in the lawful business of the said voyage, the schooner "Ada" was seized and takin possession of by the United States' r(.'vcnuc'-cu(ter " liear." The olHccis of the siiid cutter placed a crew on board of the said schooner, and towed her to Ounalaska. 3. At Ounalaska our eargo of seal-skins was taken out of tl e said schooner against the protest of the captain, and before our bavinu; a bearing before any legal Tribunal. 1 was then forced to go on the seized schooner, in charge of a L'nited States' Deputy. Marshal, to Sitka, for trial, arriving at Sitka on tlic 5tb day of September, 1M87. 4. Upon arrival at Sitka the schooner was handed over to the United States' Marshal, and I was kept on board the vessel until the lilth day of the same month, when 1 was released. .5. I was without means or provisions, and nothing was done towards enabling me to return to my home un'il the 25lh September, 1887, when 1 was sent on board the United States' revenue-cutter " Rush," and taken to Victoria, whcie I arrived on the -1th dav of October, 1887. 6. For my damages, by reason of my illegal arrest and detention as aforesaid, I claim the sum of 2,000 dollars. And I make this solemn declaration, conscicntiouslv believing the same to be true, and by virtue of " The Oaths Ordinance, 18(i9." (^Signcd) C. A. LUNDBKRG. Declared at Victoria, Biitish Columbia, this 9tli day of November, a.d. 1887, before me, (Signed) Thornton Fell, !\'ot(iry Public, Vivtoriu, British Cnluiubin. No. 93. I I'll 1l r SN III i 'i i Mr. Phelps to tlie Mtmjuis of Salisbury. — (Reccired February 18.) My Lord, Legation of the United States, London, February 17, 188r^. 1 HAVE the honour to inclose a printed copy of an important note relative to the Alaska seal fisheries which » have just received from my Government. It has reference to the proposal for some Intcniational Regulations at those tisberies vvliich I had the honour to submit in general tern)s to your Lordship in a personal interview on the 17th November last, and which I then promised to ask my Government to state more precisely. As the matter is one that, as it apj)ears to the United States' Government, should be dealt with inunediately, ana iii which I presume both Governmeuts will readily concur, I shall be glad of the honour of an interview with your Lordship at as early a day next week as maybe convenient and agnealile to you, when the proposed reslriclions and the method of carrying them into effect can be considered. 1 have, &c. (Signed) li. J. PHELPS. IncloBure I in No. 93. Mr. Bayard to Mr. Phelps. Sir, Department of State, Washington, February 7, 1888. 1 HAVL received your despafcb of the 12tl) November lust, containing an account of your interview with Lord Salisbury of the preceding day, in which his Lordship expressed acquiesceuce in my proposal of an agreement between the United States and Great Britain ily and sincerely iiritisli schooner J. PHELPS. m in regard to the adoption of concurrent regulations for the preservation of fur seals in Bohrin;;'8 Sea from extermination by destruction at improper seasons and by improper methods by the citizens of either country. In response to iiis Lordsliip's suggestion that this (lovernment submit a sketch of a system of regulations for the purpose indicated, it may be expedient, before making a definite pro])osition, to describe some of the conditions of seal life. And for this purpose it is believed that n concise statement as to that part of the life of the seal which is spent in Beliring's Sea will be sufficient. All those who have made a study of the seals in Rohring's Sea are agreed that, on an iivcrage, fioni live to six months — that is to say, from the middle or towards the end of sjiring till the middle or end of October — are spent by them in those waters in breeding nnd in rearing their young. Durina; (his time they have their rookeries on the Islands of Si. Paul anu St. George, which constitute the Pribyloff group and belong to the United States, and on the Co"-.;iiander Islands, which belong to Russia. But the number of animals n sorting to the latter group is small in comparison with that resorting to the former. The rest of the year they are supposed to spend in the open sea south of the Aleutian Islands, Their migration northward, which has been stated as taking place during the spring and till the middle of .Inne, is made through the numerous passes in the long chain of the Aleutian Islands; above which the courses of their travel converge chiefly to the Pribyloff" yroup. During this migration the female seals arc so advanced in pregnancy that they ircneially ^ive birth to their young, which are commonly called pups, within two weeks after reaching the rookeries. Between the time of the birth of the pups and of the emigra- tion of iho seals from the islands in the autumn the females are occupied in suckling their yonnu ; and by far the larnfest part of the seals found at a distance from the islands in iJihrinij's Sea during the summer and early autumn are females in search of food, which is made doubly necessary to enable them to suckle their young as well as to su|)|)ort a con- dition ol renewed pregnancy, which begins in a week or a little more after their delivery. The male seals, or bulls, as they are connnonly called, require little food while on the islands, whc re they remain uuardinir their harems, watching the rookeries, and sustaining oxistenre on the large amount of blubber which they have secreted beneath their skins and which is gradually absorbed during the five or six succeeding months. Moreover it is impossible to distinguish the male from the female seals in the water, or pregnant temalcs from those that are not so. When the animals are killed in the water with firearms many sink at once and are never recovered, and some authorities state that not more than one out of three of those so slaughtered is ever secured. This may, how- ever, be an over-estimate of th^ nuniber lost. It is thus ajiparent that to permit the destruction of the seals by the use of firearms, nets, or other mischievous means in Behring'sSea would result in the speedy extermination of tlie race. Iheic appears to be no difference of opinion on this subject among experts. And the (act is so clearly and forcibly stated in the Report of the Inspector of Fisheries for British Columbia of the iUst of December, 1886, that I will quote therefrom the lollowing pertinent passage: — "There were killed this year, so far, from 40,000 to .50,000 fur seals which have been tiiken by schooners from San Francisco and Victoria. The greater number were killed in Behring's Sea, and were nearly all cows or female seals. This enormous catch, with the increase which will take place when the vessels fitting up every year are ready, will, I am alraid, soon deplete our fur seal fishery, and it is a great pity that such a valuable industry could not in some way be protected." t Kei>(it of Thomas Mowat, Inspector of Fisheries for British Columbia; Sessional Papers, Vol. IT), No. Ki, p. 2^)8 ; Ottawa, 18R7.] Tie oiily way of obviating the lamentable lesult above predicted appears to be by the United States, Great Britain, and other interested Powers taking concerted action to prevent their citizens or subjects from killing fur seals with firearms, or other destructive weapons, north of 50° of north latitude, and between l(iO° of longitude west and 170° of longitude east from Greenwich, during the period intervening between 1.5th April aud 1st November. To prevent the killing within a marine belt of forty or fifty miles from the Islands during that period would be ineffectual as a preservative measure. This would clearly be so during the approach of the seals to the Islands. And after their arrival there such a limit of protection would also be insufficient; since the rapid progress of the seals through the water enables them to go great distances from the islands in so short a time that it has been calculated that an ordinary seal could go to the Aleutian Islands and back, in all a distance "360 or 400 miles, in less than a day. On the Priuyloff Islands themselves, where the killing is at present under the direction 'Mi f j .,';.5.- 1 ii" ,r 1.1 ! I; ■) .; i ! i I "it' i ! ilt t^ 174 nf tbe Alaska Commercial Company, which by the terms of its contract is not pertnitteH to take over lOO.OOC skins a year, no females, pups, or old bulls are ever killed, and lluis the breeding of the animals is not interfered with. The old bulls are the first to reach the islands, where they await the coming of the females. As the young bulls arrive they urc driven away by the old bulls to the sandy part of the islands, hy themselves. And these are the animals that are driven inland and there killed by clubbing, so that the skins are no perforated and discriniinalion is exercised in each case. That the exterininntion of the fur seals must soon take place unless they arc protected from destruction in Hehring's Sea is shown by the fate of the animal in other parts of tlic world, in the absence of concerted action among the nations interested for its preservation. Formerly many thousands of seals v.ere obtained annually from the South Facitic Islands, and from the coasts of Cliili and South Africa. They were also conmion in the Falkland Islands and the adjacent seus. Hut in those islands, where hundreds of thousands of skin; were formerly obtained, there have been taken, according to best statistics, since 1880, Ic^s than l.iiOO skins. In some places the indiscriminate slaughter, especially by usu of fire- arms, has in a few years resulted in completely breaking up extensive rookcrii*s. At the present tinie it is estimated that out of an aggregate yearly yield of 18'),f)00 seals from all parts of the globe over 130,000, or more than two-thirds, are obtained frotn the rookeries on the American and Russian islands in Bchring's Sea. Of the remainder, the larger part arc taken in Hehring's Sea, although such taking, at least on such a scale, in that quarter is a comparatively recent thing. But if the killing of the iur seal there with fire-arms, nets, and other destructive implements were permitted, hunters would abandon other exhausted places of pursuit for the more productive field of Rehring's Sen, where extermination of this valuable animal would also rapidly ensue. It is manilestly for the interests of all nations that so deplorable a thing should not he allowed to occur. As has already been stated, on the Pribyloif Islands this Government strictly limits the number of seals that may be killed under its own lease to an .Anierieua Company ; and citizens of the United States have, during the past year, been arrested, and ten .American vessels seized for killing fur seals in Behring's Sea. England, however, has an especially great interest in this matter, in addition to tlmt which she must feel in preventing the extermination of an animal which contributes so much to the gain and comfort of her people. Nearly all undressed fur seal skins are sent to London, whei-e they are dressed and dyed for the inarket, and where many of them are sold. It is stated that at least 10,000 people in that city find profitable employment in this work ; far more than the total number of people engaged in hunting the fur seal in every part of the world. At the Pribyloff Islands it is believed that there ara not more than 400 persons so engaged ; at Commander Islands, not more than 300 ; in the iiorth-wcst c^-'st fishery, not more than 525 Indian hunters and 100 whites; and in the Cape Horn fishery not m re than 400 persons, of whom perhaps .100 are Chileans. Great Britain, therefore, in co- operating with the United States to prevent the destruction of fur seals in Beliring's Sen, would also be perpetuating an extensive and valuable industry in which her own citizens have the most lucrative share. I inclose for your information copy of a Memorandum on the fur seal fisheries of tiie world prepared by Mr. A. Howard Clark, in response to a request made hy this Department to the United States' Fish Commissioner. I inclose also, for your further information, copy of a letter to me dated the 3rd December last, from Mr. Henry W. Elliott, who has spent mueli time in Alaska, engaged in the study of seal life, upon which he is well known as nn authority. I desire to call your special attention to what is said by .Mr. Elliott in respect to the new method of catching the seals with nets. As the subject of this despatch is one of great importance and of immediate urgcnry, I will ask that you give it as early attention as possible. I am, &c. (Signed) T. F. BAYARD Inclosure 2 in No. 93. Revinv of the Fur Seal Fisheries of the World in 1887, hy A. Howard Clark. IN the " Encyclopaedia Britannica," ninth edition, the fur seal fisheries are credited with an annual yield nf 185,000 skins, of which 100,000 are said to be obtained from the Pribyloff Islands, 30,0^0 from the Commander Islands, 16,000 from the Straits of Juan de Fuca and vicinity, 12,000 from the Lobos Islands, 15,000 from Patagonia and outlying islands, 500 from the Falkland Islands, 10,000 from the Cape of Good Hope and places thereabout, and 2,600 from islands belonging to Japan. The above statistics were communicated by me to tbe author of the article " Seal 1871 1H72 1873 I87-I 1875 1876 1877 1878 1879 1880 1881 1882 issa 18H4 1885 1886 1887 not permitted illed, and thus ■st to reach the arrive they int' es. And tiicse it tlie skins arc >y are protected ler parts of tlie ts prcseiviitioii. Fntific Islands, in the Falkhind iisands of skinj since 1880, ic-s r- by usu of (iic- eric'S. if:ld of 185,000 e obtained from f tlie remainder, ^n such a scale, le fur seal there hunters would f Bel) ring's Sen, 2 should not he his Government to an American !en arrested, and uldition to that butessomnch to hcnt to London, are sold. It is 1 this work ; far ivery part of the 400 persons so St fishery, not shery not m re lereforc, in co- Beliring's Sea, ler own citizens fisheries of the Department to nation, copy of lias spent niiuli known as an liott in respect lediate urgency, BAYARD ■d Clark. ries are credited tained from the raits of Juan dc ia and outlying Jope and places le article " Seal Fisheries " in the " Encyclopedia," and had been carefully verified bj the latest official .Tcords nifl by a personal in ^rview with Mesars. C. M. Lampaou and Co., of London, one of the principal fur houses o. the world, and by whom most of the annual production of fur seal-skins are placed upon the market. A review of the subject at this time (January 1888) necessitates but a slight change in the annual production and in the apportionment to the several fisheries. Some of the fisheries have increased, while others have decreased. Taking the average annual yield from ISbO to date, I find thut the total production is now 192,457 skins, obtained as follows : — Annual Yield of Fur Seal Fisheries. Priliyloti' Ii-lnndK, IletiriiiK'H Sen .. ., ,. .. .< < 'niiiiiiniulcr Ittlands and Uobbcn Ucvl' . . , . . . . , IiiIaiidN 1)f longing to Jiipun . . . . . . . . . Itritiali anil American sealing Hcet« on north-west coast of Aniericu (ioclud' ing catch nt Cape Flattery and liehring's Sen) .. .. .■ T.obos Iiilnnds ot mouth of Uio dc la I'latn . . . . . . . Cape of Good Hope (including inlaudM in Southern Indian Ucean; Cape Hum region Falkland Islnndn . . . , Total Number of Fur Seal Skiiia, 04,967 41,803 4,000 2S,CU0 5,500 S,I62 560 102,457 The Statistics for the Pribyloff and Commander Islands are compiled from Reports of the Alaska Commercial Company, Mr. Elliott's Reports in Vol. viii, 10th Census, and in Section 5, United States' Fish Commission Report, and Trade Reports of aimual sales in I^ndon ("Fur Trade Review," published monthly at No. II, Bond Street, New York). The north-west coast statistics are from the annual Reports of the Department of Fisheries of Canada, and from Mr. Swan's Rc|)ort in Section 5, vol. ii, of the quarto report of the United States' Fish Commission. For Japan, Lobos Islands, Cope of Good Hope, and Falkland Islands the statistics are from the " Annual Statements of the Trade of the United Kingdom with Foreign Countries and British Possessions us presented to Parlia- ment." Statistics for Cape Horn region are from sealing merchants of Stonington and .New London, Connecticut. The details of the fisheries for a series of years are shown in the following Table. (As to the number of persons employed, it is not possible io give details in all cases. At Pribyloff Islands, in 1880, there were 372 Aleuts and 18 whites. At Commander Islands there are about 300 persons. In the North-west coast fisliery 523 Indian hunters and 100 whites, and in the Cape Horn fishery about 400 whites, of whom, perhaps, 300 are Chileans.) NuMBEu of Fur Seal Skins from Principal Fisheries: 1871 to 1887. (Compiled from otficial sources by A. H. Clark. No returns for spaces blank.) i. 4 n i </. or a Year. Piibylotf Islar ii North-west C of America. c ■3 1 Cape Horn. 4 e i 1 w 1871 63,000 3,011 C-j 1H72 90,000 29,319 1 i "i 1873 90,030 30,300 3 2 »- 1874 9a,820 31,272 .S r: 1,085 £ = 7,951 0.303 1875 90,500 36,274 X .2 100 1° - ?; 2,243 8,(12;^ 1876 99,000 26,060 J, « 173 2^1 6,()18 11.225 1877 85,000 ■21,532 1,386 "2 u 22,5.50 11,065 1878 95,000 3 1, .140 1°" 2,366 S a 11,931 13,086 1870 69,068 42,752 18,")00 ■3 = 4,038 H fi,900 15,128 1880 09,950 48.504 10,150 i 2,427 9,275 10,900 7.731 1881 85,000 42.640 1 620 6,610 8,887 8,280 1882 99,800 46,000 17,700» < 50 8,090 15,0(17 11,497 1883 78,000 25,000 11,943 8 13,950 7,02(1 18H4 90,500 38,000 l.VHl* 681 = i. 10,722 3,924 1885 99,600 42,000 15,000* B|-s 11.223 4,-")7 1886 98,000 45,000 38,007* 3,605 68 X i> 15,949 3,378 1887 99,890 48,000 29,21 If ^^ h * Catob Iftt.awu at British Columbia vessels. f Mostly taken in liehriojs's Sea. Sue Schedule (A). I rr 11 1 . ''4 w \t' i i ! I I'. ■I i 176 The second point upon which iittbrniutiuu is re(|uested ia " th«t of the destruction I the fur seal, resulting cither in its exteriiiiimtion or tlic diininutiun ol its yield in plucis where it formerly abounded," &c. At the bcfjinniuK of the pr<!SL'iit century tliere were great roolveries of fur seal at Falkland Islands, at the South Shetlunds, at MuNafuera, at South (ic<>r<;ia, and at ni<n!\ other places throughout tiie Antarctic region. TiiCHe places were visiteil by sealinjj-vessels, and indiscriminate slaughtiir of the animals resulted in the cxtcriiiiiiatiou of the species, or in such diminution in their numbers that the fishery became uiiprotitahk'. The dttails of the Antarctic fishery are given in Section ;'), vol. ii, of the (piarto Report of the United States' Fish Couunission, |)p. 4()0-4()7 ; in Utport by 11. W. Elliott on "Seal Islands of Alaska," 0, |)p. 117-124 (reprinted in vol. viii, 10th Census Reports); in "Monograph of North American Pinnipeds, by J. A. Allen (.Misc. I'ub., .\ii, Unittd States' Geological Survey) ; in " Fanning's \oyages Kound the World " (New York, I KVA) ; in "Narrative of Voyages and Travels in Northern and Southern Hemisplures," by Amasa Delano (Boston, iS17) ; and in numerous other works, to which reference will be found in the above volumes. A few men are still living who participated in the Antarctic seal fisheries year? ago. Tlieir stories of the former abundance of fur seals I have obtained in personal interviews. As to the manner of destruction there is but one thing to say : an indiscriminate shi'.ghtcr of old and young, male and female, in a few years results in the breaking up of the largest rookeries, and, as in the case of Nlasafuera and the Falkland Islands, the injury seems to be a permanent one. As an instance, the South Shetlands were first visited in 1810, when fur seals were very abundant ; two vessels in a short time securing full fares. In 1H20 thirty vessels hastened to the islands, and in a few weeks obtained upwards of 2o0,000 skins, while thousands of seals were killed and lost. In 1821-22 \\'eddcll* says : " 320,000 skins were taken The system of extermination was practised, for when- ever a seal reached the beach, of whatever denomination, he was immediately killed and his skin taken ; and by this means, at the end of the second year, the animals became nearly extinct. The young, having lust their mothers when only three or Tour days old, of course died, which, at the lowest calculation, exceeded 100,000." In subse(iuunt years, until 1845, these islands were occasionally visited by vessels in seuvth of seal-skins, but never after 1822 were many aniaials found there. About 1845 the Antarctic fur-sealinj,' was abandoned. In 1871 the industry was renewed, and a few vessels secured some valuable furs from the South Shetlands, but in a few years voyages there became unprofitable. (See sec. 5, vol. ii. United States' Fish Conunission Report, pp. -10-'-458.) The same story may be told of Masafuera, from whieli island about 3,500,0U0 fur seal-skins were taken between the years 1793 and 1607. (See sec. 5, as above, p. 407.) Captain Morrell states that in 1807 " tlie business was scarcely worth follovjng at Masafuera, and in 1824 the island, like its neighbour Juan Fernandez, was almost entirely abandoned by these animals." (Morrell's Voyage: New York, 1832, p. 1.30.) Scarcely any seals have since been found at Masafuera. Delano states that in 1 7ii7 there were two or three million fur seals on that island. Elliott, in his Re|)ort already cited, gives accounts of earlier voyages to Masafuera, &c. I have consulted log-books and journals of several voyages, all agreeing in the former abundance, and the extermination of the fur seal on Masafuera as well ns on other Antarctic or southern islands. At the Falkland Islands both fur seals and sea-lions abounded, hut there, too, they were destroyed. The sealing business at South Georgia was most prosperous in 1800, during which season sixteen American and English vessels took 1 12,000 fur seal-skins. Though nut as important a rookery as some of the other islands, considerable numbers of fur seals have been taken from South Georgia. Since 1870 some gooJ cargoes of elephant seal oil have been taken there. Fur seals were abundant at the Tristan d'Acunha Islands at the beginning of the century, and because of the almost inaccessible caves and rocks to which they resort a few have survived — or, at least, as late as 1873 a few were annually taken there. On the west coast of Africa, from the Cape of Good Hope to the 16th degree of south latitude, there was until 1870 a considerable number of fur seals of an inferior qualitj-, but they are now practically exhau8*;cd, the few skins marketed as coming from there being taken on various hauling grounds on islets farther south and east. (See sec. 5, vol. ii, United States' Fish Commission Report, p. 415.) The Prince Edward group, Crozet Islands, Kerguelen Land, and other smaller islands in the Southern Indian and Southern Pacific Oceans, were important seal fisheries brth for * " Weddell'i Voyages," p. 1!)0, quoted in Section V, vol. ii, quarto Report of United State*' Fish ComiuissioD, p. 407. 177 jinning of the !y resort a few Fiih CominttsioD, the fur and elephant seal. At none of them in any number of seals found to-day. Tlio English exploring ship " Challenger" visited Kcrguelen l^nd in 187.3-76, and reports: — " Two of the whaling schooners met with o*; the island killed over seventy fur seals in one dny, nnd upwards of twenty nt another, at some small islands off Mowe Islands to the north. It is a pity tiiat some discretion is not exercised in killing the animals, as is done at St. Paid Island, in Ik-hring's Sea, in t\w case of the northern fur sea!. By killing the young males and selecting certain animals only for killing, the uumbcr of seals even may be increased ; the sealers in Kergnelen Island kill all they can f ud." (Sec " Report of the Scientific Results of the Exploring Voyage of Her Majesty 's ship ' Challenger,' lS7'l-70. Narrative of the Cruise. Vol. i, in two parts. 4to. Published by order of Her Majesty's Government, 1H8.").") In these volumes will he fbiimi similar references to other seal islands visited by the ' riiallrnger." In referring to Marion Island the Report says: — " The ruthless manner in which fur and elephant sials were destroyed by the sealing parties in the early jiart of this century lias had the ellect of almost exterminating the colony that used these desolate islands for hreedinu; purposes." (Vol. i, p. 2\)i.) To recapitulate : concertiing seal rookeries south of the etpiator, 1 may say that there is no single place where any number are now known to resort except on the Lohos Islands, off Peru, nnd at the mouth of the Rio de la Plata, and on the neighbouring hauling grounds at the cliH's of Caho Conienfes. Hero they arc. and have long been, protected by the Argentine Republic or Ui'uguay, and the rookery appears to remain about the same si/e, with little apparent increase or decrease in the number of animals, as may he seen by statistics of the catch in the Tahk above given. The small rookeries or hauling grounds at Diego Ra!i;irez Islands, C'a|)e Horn, and the rocky islets in that vicinity, from 1870 to ISS.i or 1^84 yielded some return to the hardy scalers of Stoningtnn and New London, Connecticut, trom which ports a half-dozen vessels have been annually sent. Even this last resort of American sealers is practically exhausted, and only bv much search is a profitable voya'.;e made there. Dr. Coppinger, who was at Cape' Horn in l87.S-*i-_' ("Cruise of the 'Alert,'" by R. W. Coppinger: London, lbS.1), tells of the difficulties of sealing at Cape Horn, and of the profits made when even a few skins arc secured. In 1880 C'.iijlaiu Temple "came through tlie western channels of Patagonia, having entered fiie straits at Tres Montcs;" and on the Cavadonga group of barren rocks he .says he found some tiiousands of seals. Had the great southern I'ookeries b(.'e;i protected by Governnieiit, it is altogether j)r()bable, according to all autlioritics, ihat they would to-day yielil many thousands of skins, in some eases equal to the vahial)Ie returns of the Prii>yl()fl' Group. In proceeding up the South.ei'U Pacific from Alasafuera \\c pa.-s St. I'elix, the I.ob'is Islands, oil' Peru, and the {>alii|)agos Islands, on which, as well as on otlier islands in that ocean, the fur seal once was fouml, but whence it has been exterminated. North of the equator we meet, first, the Guadaloupe Islands, where in 1S78 theie were a few fur seals, presumably migrations from the Pribylofi' Group. Alovinj: northward, along the Calilor- nian and north-west coast, the fur seal is found in winter and early spring on its way to .the great breeding grounds on the PrihylofI I>lanils. It is during this migration that the Pacific sealing-schooncrs of 15iitisli Columbia and San Francisco capture them, and it is probablt' that if the Heet increases in size, with a corresponding increase in the number of seals taken, there will ere long be an appreciable decrease in the number of seals on the Pribyloff Islands. This cannot but be the result, for many seals are killed and not secured, and there is the same indiscriminate slaughter as regards younir and old, male and female, that was practised at the southern rookeries. The statistics showing the present growing condition of the nortli-west coast fishery, and the clforts of the tishcrmen to follow the seals even into Hehring's Sea, are already a matter of record, and need not he repeated here, except to rtfer to the Annual Reports of the Department of Fisheries of Canada. In the Keport for 1880 will be found (on p. 249) tlic names of the Rritish Columbian fleet, aggregating 20 vessels, manned by 79 sailors and 380 hunters, and their catch is given at 38,917 skins, as compared with i3 vessels, taking 17,700 skins, in I8&2. The American vessels in this fleet in 1880 and their catch is. given- by Mr. Swan in sec. .5, vol. ii, of the quarto Heport of the United States' Fish Comniissiun. It is not necessary that I refer to the condition of the rookeries on the Pribyloff Islands. There can be no question concerning the advisability of regulating the number of animals to be killed, and the selection of such animals as will not interfere with the breeding of the species. The history of the islands at the beginning of the century, when there was an indiscriminate slaughter of fur seals, and tlie |)roteetion of the animals ia 1808 and thereafter by -the Russian and American .Governments, is fully told by Veniaminov and bv Elliott, and need not be repented here. (Veniaminov's " Zapieskie," [!28] ■ 2 A ii i ^iPiiii ,1 . '.1 -'.i Wi:!- I % it- ir3: 17« "•1} H I I I tic, St. Pptcrsburub, 1842, vol. ii, p. .5f»H, (|iiotc(l by M. W. Elliott in " Seal hUnds of Aluskn," pp. NO-m.', vol. viii. Tenth C'ensuH Kcport ) 'riic Coinniandcr Ulniids (Hi'hritii; iind Copper IkIiiiuIs), in DelirinK'it Sea, and Itoblxii Reef, near Sa,i;lialicn, in the Okhotsk Sea, are leased by the Aiaskft Connncreial Conipanv, and are proteeted by the ilu^sian (invertiineDt in mneb the s;inu! ninnner that the I'ribvloH iHlRnds are protected by the United States' (Jovernnient. \ description of the seal industry on thoHo islands is ^iven by I'rolessor NonU-nskiold in " X'oyu^^e oC the N'e-;;!," n translation ol a portion of bis Keport beini; iiiven by .Mr. Klliott on pp. I()!l-ll;i m "Seal Islands ol Alaska." At Kobbin Keel' it is inipossible to e>lubli>.b a station, I lit roek beini; olten wavc-wasbed ; iiiit the Alaska Company send men there in the season, to gather from I,.')!)!) to 4,(HK( skins eaeh year. The ai;ent et' the Uiissjan (Jovermmiii confers with the Alaska Company's a^ent eaeh year to determiiu! tlie luimber of skins that shall be taken in the Commander Islands. 'J'lio Heals taken by the .Japanese arc those niii;ratin<; from the C'ommandcr (iroiip, and are not secured in laruc numbers, the average being about 4,t)()(), tliout;h some years as many a» 1 1, ()()() arc taken. Schedule (A.) — Memorandum of Sealskin Seizures, Vessels, &c., in Hcbring's Sea, in 1H87. No.j Kig. Namr. Nalinn. 1 Toil. 1 IIKKf. I'nptnin. Owner. Sti/iil. Dale. July 111 Seal.. I •Slimni W. P. Snyword.. HritHh .. 1 19 (in.. II. T.rrj .. J. D. Warren ,. | Revenue (.Irarorl ■i;? »rhi«nifr 1 ••ttu«li • 2 Dilid DitIo .\nni' Hi'i'k , .ic l,olli« Olirn .. Win. IVlit ., •• .. 3 ., IH x\r. 7IW 3 (ira.c .. .. ;c. 4 Dillii Dolpliin .. 70 J II. Wiirrin .. .. .. .. i;i r.irt 5 Si'liiiontT . Allri'd Ad«iii» .. ., ns W. \\. Ilyrr .. J. Giiteman ,. .. Au(C. 12 i,.i;;) 6 Dlitu .\iln .. LollU' l*'airlit'Id* . .. 6& J. (iiindln .. J. Hoskoaili ,, l.vndi' A. Hough, Hieaiuer " Hear" ., Itu.l." .. a I.h;!-, 7 Dilto .. Clmllriigt'r ., AmiuM'an . 36 II. II. .1..m-ii .. A. I>oui{1ji»i« .. .. .. .'• 44.1 8 nittn I.ily 1.. Cl J. VV. Todd .. (i. W. L.idd .. July 1 I.-II 9 Mitto Annip , . ■, ** •* •i:, II. Ilniwii ,. inf. I.nrtiti ,. .t .. .. -'.■> lO.'i 10 Diltii .. Kale ttiid Annie,. •t •• Hi (iin«. l.tilji'H ,. CIiaB. Luiji-n ». .. Aug. 1 1 .IIH II Dilto , . HII.1 )i •• 12 T. II. Wi-iitKorth 0. W. Lyl.yju«l..! .. ii .'.;? I'J Oitlii Alph... >> •• 2li Jus. Talti'n J:IH. Tllllen ., „ „ J. V. tiiirvin .. ,. 12 i»;. ;w9 13 Dilto .Sun Jo«i' , , II •• 51 J. S. I.ec J. S. I,e .. .. „ 1 J. 1). (irilfm .. „ 23 891 11 Ditto Ang.'l Dully »* t • 18 A.lulli'S .. 0. H. Tinitle, Tre»». .Vuelit ,. 3 17N IS Dill.. .. Allif T. AlKff .. ft •• 70 V. K. Raynor ,. • . Steamer " Henr"; ,. 25 1..VJ4 16 1 Ditto . . Hylviit Handy ,. CS J. I.. Culhcut .. L. N. Ilamly and Son ' \ Sept. 2 1,597 li,9r,;i • Viisel not eapturnl. Abrivai. of Scaling Schooners from Behriug'.s Sea in 1887, as far as reported to October !>, 1887. Arrived lit— Numo of ScliOoiuT. NtllldKT of ^kills, I'lirt Towu^cnd . . . . Victiii'iii ., • • • ■ • ■ " }, •• •• ,, •• • • •• ;, • • •• • • „ „ . • • • • • ., • • • • • . „ . • •• • . „ •. .. •• ,) •• •• •• Liittii- Slniy 'I'livliir . . ., I'litlitindor.. I'omlnj'e .. .. ItliR'k I)iiinii)ii<< . . ., Mouiituin Chief , , ,, Ldttio I'uirKclJ . . Add Fnvuritu . . . . . . Torosn Ti'iiiiii|ih .. City di' San Diego . . Vnnderbilt.. .. "00 1 ,00li J.DOO ^.lOO oO.i 700 2,'J97 l.MO 1.887 ,, ,, 1,'24G ^. •180 1.187 l,r,oo 17,242 Kccapitiilation, as repotted up to Octol>cr 5, 1887- Skins seized . . . . . . Skins landed . . Total .. 11,069 17,242 29,211 ^cal Iilandx of *a, and Holilicn iciul Comimiiv, lit the rrihyliitt )l) l>f till' Sl'lll ( of flu! V'f.Ull," |i|i. )()!l-l hi III I a Ktatidi), till I till- bcason, to 111 (•Dvernini'iit iM' of skins tli;\t iiiaiulci' (in)ii|i, iiLjIi Hdtiie years L'livins's Sea, D«l«'. SmI.. in Jiiljr III ' •177 .. S 1 llf. ., 1» , 7(i'J ,. i:t 1 I'llH Aug. IJ I. .179 r" ,. 2i l,«fi ." .. S 441 July 1 IM „ 'Ht ]<>:> Auic.ll .'IIM .. \i .'.;7 .. 12 m.-i .. 12 :iH<i „ 23 M'Jl .. .. J Kh r" „ 21 1..V.H Sept. 2 1.5U7 1 II, '.Id'.! d to Oct obcr f), ,969 ,242 1,211 •II I 179 Inrlomin* .'1 in No. M. " i"*' Mr. Elliott to Mr. lUiynnl. .'•V.t-'if'n Sir, Smitlisnniint Inslilutinn, Wanhinijlon, D.C. i)freiiilifr '.\ 18H7. " l)UH!\(; llic convMc of my txtcndrd sliidic-^ of lli'' liir-st-al (»ii its lirciMljin,' and liiidin;; i^roiiiids in lUdirin^'s Sen, I wim led natiiraliy iitlo a very carcrul cxainination (if tlio MiJijrrt of its |irolt'ctiiiii and iirrpctiiatioii. 'riiis iiivcsti'^ation taiisod uw to eivc iiuieli attiiition llu'ii (o the ctlirt wliirli |icia'^ic scaling would liave u[)on tlic wcll-liciiii; and the consi-i'vatioii of thcHc nnotnaloiis nnd vahialilc interests of our (idvernnu nt as we view l|iei?i upon tlie I'rihyloU ifroii|i. VVIieii |ire|)ariiii:. in )^<H|, h timd arninueiiieiit of my field notes and meinorando for pniiiieation in my .Monoirrapli nl tlieSenI Islands of Alaska (lOtli ('ensiis U.S. A.), tlie lute IVol'essor hiiird sn'.:i;esled that I omit the diseiission of this tiunic of peiafrie sealing, (iceanso it miiilit x-rve to invite an attack wliieii otiicnvise would never lie made upon these presei'\es of nur (iovernment, 'I'liis attack, however, has recently liren made, and the tiiou<»lit occurs to me now that a lirief eiiitiinie of my stu \ of the cllcct which this plan of scalinij will have upon the integrity nnd value of Mir Inr-hearini; interests in Ikhiinu's Sea- tliat such a hrief, yel aceurate, statement will he of service to you. 1 thcreloic venture to present the loIlo\viii>r transcript. It is now well imderslood and umpiestioncd — 1. That tliefiir-scid of Ahi>ka is niiliired to liaiil out nnnuitlly upon the Prihyloff Islands lor the purpose of hreediii'.; and shcddiii!; its pelade. 2. 'I'hal from the time of its departure from these islan''^ n the .4 ituinn of every year up to the time ol its retu-o to tlicm in the lollowiii!; spriiii; il lands iiowlu ic tKe. .'I. That it !i -ives m ;;i«.v.vcupon these islands in .hmeaiid .July, and departs from them ill October ai..; ..'.ivemher. A. That when leaving ilie islands in the liill it liends directly for, nnd rapidly jinsses out iiom Hehring'sSca into, the waters of the North Pacific Ocean. Its paths of travel are iiee-liiics from the Prihyloff group to and through the numerous passes of the AU-utian .\rehipcla'.;o ; the pas'-cs of Oonimak, Akootan, Oonalga, Oomnak, and the Four Mountains are most favoured hy it. i>. That it returns from the hroad wastes of the North Pacific Ciccaii h Miese same paths of departure. Therefore, if you will glance at the .Map of Alaska, you will ohserve tiiat the eijiivergence and divergence of these watery paths of the fiir-seal in Bchring's Sea to and fidin the Seal Island!? risemlilcs the spread of the spoke-s of a half-wheel — the Aleutian chain forms the felloe, while the huh into which these spokes enter is the small Piihylofi' group. Thus you can sec that as tlieso watery paths of the fur-seal converge in Hehring's Sea they, ill so doing, rapidly and solidly mass together thousands and tens of thousands of widely scattered animals (as they travel) at points ;')() and even 100 miles dis^tant from the rockeries of t!ic Seal Islands. Here is the location and the opportunity of the pelagic scaler. Here is his chance to lie at anchor over the shallow tied of Behring's Sea, .OO and 100 miles distant from the Priliylotl' <»ioup, where he has the hest holding ground known to sailors, and where he con ride at any weather safely swinging to his cable nnd in no danger from a lee shore if it should slip. The immediate vicinity, however, of the Aleutian passes is dangerous in the extreme to him. There he encounters terrible tide-rips, swift currents, and furious gales fonntKl througli the entrances, with the very worst ot rough, rocky, holding ground. But uj) here, anywliere from .'} to lOD miles south of the Seal Ishuu's, in Belirin(?'s Sea, in that watery road of the returning fur-seal millions, he has a saft; and fine location from whicli to shoot, to spear, and to net these fur-bearing amphibians, and where he can work the most complete ruin in a very short time. His power for destruction is still furtSier augmented by tin .dct that those seals which are most liable to meet his eye and aim ure female fur-seals, wt.leli, heavy with j'ouiig, are liere slowly nearing the land, reluctant to haul out of the cool water until the day and hour arrives tlwt limits the period of their gestation. The ])elngic sealer employs three agencies with whicli to secure his quarry, viz. : Ho ?ends out Indians with canoes and spears from his vessel; he uses rifle and hall, >iiot-gur.3 and laick-shot ; and last, but most deadly and destructive of all, he spreads the "gill-net" in favouraijle weather. [l'J«] 2 A 2 IPI HJ'l ill ■ ■'il ■.,r| ■ ., . ■ii . 180 Witli gill-nctg, under run by a fleet f)i sealers in Ik-lirin^'ii Si-a, across tliose convergint; paths of tlie fui-scnl, iinywlicrc iVom ?> to 100 miles southerly from tlie Sen! Islands, I am extremely nmderntc in sayiiiu; that such a fleet could and would nttorly ruin the fur-seal rookeries of flic Prdiyloft' Islands in less time than tinee or four siiort seasons. If these men we' o unchecked every foot of that walery area of fur-seal travel in Meiirini?'s Sea above indicated could and would be traversed by these deadly nets, and a seal would scarcely have one chance in ten to safely pass such u cordon in attemptiniif to i;o and return Iron) its breeding haunts. Open these waters of HchrinR's Sea to unchecked pelagic sealing, then a fleet of hundreds of vessels — steamers, sliips, schooners, ikkI what not — would immediately venture into them, bent upon the most vigorous and indiscriminate sluugliter of these animals. A few seasons then of the greediest rapine, then imtbing left of those wonderful and valuable interests of the public which are now so handsomely embodied on the Seal Islands. Guardcil and conserved as they arc to-day, they will last for an indelinite tinu' to come, objects of the highest commercial value and good to the world, and subjects for the most faKcinatiug bioloj^ical study. It is also well to iioti; (he fact that not an eligible acre of land is barred out from settlement or any other fit use by our people, and not a league of water is closed to any legitimate trade or commerce in ail Alaska by this action of our Oovernnieut in thus protecting the fur-bearing rookeries of the I'lihylolf jiroup. Such arc (he liiets in this eonnt'ction. They are indisputable. No intelligent unselfish man will advocate for a moment the policy of destruction in this instance ; he never will if fully aware of tlie facts bearing on tlie (piestion. There are only two parties in this controversy. 'I'ho party of destruction demands the full riifht to unchecked j)c]agic scaling in Hehring's Sea, while the party of preservation demands the sup[)rcssion of tiiat sealing. Comment is unneeessaiy. Very truly, &c. (Signed) UI-:NRY W. KLLIOTT. I 1 w No. 94. Sir L. Wi'st to the Maninis of Salishwy. — (Recei.ied February 21.) My Lord, IVashintjton, Fehuary 10, 18S8. I H.AVK the honour to inclose to your l.ordship herewith an article Irom the "New York Herald " on the Bchring's Sea seizures and closed seas. 1 have &c (Signed) ' L. S. SACKVILLH WEST. Inclosure in No. 94. Extract from the " New York Herald " of February 8, 1S88. C'LosiiD Seas. — An Ottawn despatch states that Professor Dawsou is on the way to Washington, as agent of the Canadian Government, in relation to complaints of that Government about wronijs sufl'ered by some of its peoj)le in Alaska. This refers probably to the seizure of a mmiber of Canadian sealing- vessels in Bchring's Sea and their condemnation at Sitka. The "Carolina," "Onward," and "Thornton," all confessedly Canadian sealers, were seized in August Ift'C by an American Ueveuue-cutter, while over 60 miles from land, in Bchring's Sea, and were later condemned by the United States' Court. About the sanie time several American sealing-vessels — the "San Diego," "Sierra," and others — were also seized, under similar circumstances, and also condenuied. Early in 1887 the President ordered the discontinuance of the proceedings against the Canadian sealers and their discharge, but the American vesssels captured and condemned were held. Subsequently, in July 1887, five other Canadian sealers — the "Grace," "Dolphin," "Alfred Adams," " W. P. Say ward," and " Anna Beck "— were seized, also at u distance from land. For all these seizures, and the losses inflicted on the owners and crews, damages are claimed by the British Government. In considering these claims, the question whether the United States can hold Bchring's Sea to be a closed sea turns up. We suppose that if it were not for a desire to preserve the valuable fur seal fisheries this question would not be raised, because Behring's Sea, geographically, is plainly an integral part of the Pacific Ocean. Russia, when she owned both shores of it, may Dave across t!iose from tlio Sei\l Id utterly ruin short seasons, il ill lieli ring's :l a seal would iiiptiiii^ tu i;o It'll a Hoot of 1 iiniiiediatuly filter of those losi! \vj)ndcif<il tl on till' Seal lelinifc tiiiu' to uhjfcts for the rred out from I closed to any iiDcnt in thus No intclliiient ■i instance ; he ction demands of preservation ELLiorr. ry 10, 1888. 0111 the " New Li: WEST. on the way to aints of that s in Bchrin|;'s Thornton," all evenue-cutter, jy the United " San Diego," o condemned. l^s against the nd condemned the '« Grace," e seized, also >ie owners and se claims, the turns up. r seal fisheries , is plainly an f it, may liHve 181 riaimed it as a closed sea, just as Spain once claimed the exclusive i i^bt to navigate the whole Pacific Ocean. But in modern times such claims have been eonsidercc: preposterous, and have been shelved. Our own Government has been in the jiast most persistsnt in its opposition to "the headland " theory, and to the assertion by other Powers of exclusive rif,'lits to waters much more closely land-bound than the Behrin^'s Sea. The United States were the first to resist the claims of the Barbary Powers to attribute for entering; the Mediterranean. Our Government resisted the payment of the "Sound dues" to Denmark as "inconsistent with just principles of international law," and asserted " tlie freedom of the Baltic Sound," and *' insisted on the right of free transit into and from the Baltic." Later, the United States even refused to acknowledge the right of Turkey to exclude our vessels from the Black Sea, ant! we have always refused to acknowledge (ircut Britain's claim to make the (Julf of St. Lawrence a closed wiitor. We do not suppose, therefore, that the Government will defend the seizure of the Canadian sealers on the ground that it can prevent foreign ships from entering Behring's Sea, or from fishing or sealing in it beyond .'5 miles from the shore. That northern extension of the Pa'.-ific Ocean is, it seems to iia, undoubtedly an open sea, in which all nations may freely sail and fish, keeping outside the 3-milc limit. The preservation of the seal fisheries is, of course, of interest to the Government, which draws a revenue from these fisheries sulticient, we believe, to pay the interest on the cost of Alaska. It has often been urged that, if any one may cajiture seals in the Behring's Sea, the animals will soon become extinct. So the Canadians represent that if our mackerel fishers are allowed to use the (iulf of St. Lawrence, the mackerel fishery there will be destroyed for tiie Canadians, the American seines destroying, as they allege, the young fish. We have not noticed that nuicli attention has been paid here to this plea of the Canadians. Perhaps, if our fishermen will agree not to fish in Canadian waters, the Canadians will agree not to seal in Behring's Sea? Meantime, there is a bill of damages on each side; for the Canadians have dealt with great severity, not to say brutality, with our fishermen in their waters. No. 95. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. West, Sir, Foreign Office, February 22, 1888. I TRANSMIT herewith, for your information, a copy of a letter from the United States' Minister in London,* inclosing a copy of a despatch addressed to him by Mr. Bayard on the 7th instant, in whirh attention is called to the necessity for the adoption of measures for the protection of the fur-seals in Behring's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 96. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. West, (Extract.) Foreign Office, February 22, 1888. '' THE United Sttes' Minister called to-day at the Foreign Office, and spoke to me about the question of the protection of the fur seals in Behring's Sea. He said that "le difficulties in regard to the seal fisheries in that sea were mainly connected with the question of the close time, and that no attempt had been made by the authorities of the United States to stop the fishing there of any vessels at tli? time when it was legitimate. Mr. Phelps then made a proposal on the bases embodied in Mr. Bayard's despatch of the 7th February, a copy of which accompanies my previous despatch of this day's date.t Mr Bayard there expresses the opinion that the only way of preventing the destruction of the seals would be by concentrated action on the part of the United States, Great Britain, and other interested Powers to prevent their citizens or subjects from killing • No. 83. t SmNo.1 ! <: r*. uW,, \i 1. !' ' I M :Mi'1 ! iMiS; I ill fur seals with fire-arms or other destructive weapons north of 50° of north latitude, nnd hetweon 160° of longitude west and 170° of lonuitiidc cast from Greenwich, during the period inlerveninpj hctwcen the ISth April and the 1st November. I expressed to Mr. Phel|)s the entire readiness of Her Majesty's Government to join in an Acfreemcnt with Russia and the United States to establish a close time for seaUiishing north of some latitude to be fixed. VI No. 97. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. v.t LIJ Sir, Foreign Office, March 3, 1H88. I AM directed by the Nrar(|uis of Salisbury to transmit herewith, for the information of Sfcrctiu'V Sir II. Holliind, a codv of a letter from the United States' Minister in London,* inclosing a copy ol a (icspatch addressed to him by Mr. Bayard on the 7tli ultimo, in whicii Jittciuion is called to the necessity for the adoption of measures for protectiiig ♦he fur seals in J^i'lirinn's Sea. I am at the same ti; e to inclose a copy of a despatch which has been addressed to 8ir L. ^^'cst,t re|)eatina the siibstancL- of what |)asse(l at an interview between Lord Salisbuiv and Mr. Phelns on this riuestion on the 22iHi ultimo. I am to re(|uest tiiat in layinu; these papers before Sir II. Holland, you will move hini to furnish Lord Salisbury with any observations he may have to offer on tiie subject. I am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN I'AUNCEFOTK. No. W. ■Hf' ll!f The Marquis of Salishitrij to M. de Staal. My dear Ambassador, Foreign Office, March 3, 188?. I INFORM KD you a short time ago that the Goverii'nent of the United States had proposed negotiations with the object of regulatins^ the catching of fur seals in Bullring's Sea. It would be a soui-ce of satisfaction to me if the Russian Government would authorize your Excellency to enter into a discussion of the matter with Mr. Phelps and myself, aiul I should be greatly obliged if you would communicate on the subject with M. dc Giers ami inform uie of the decision at which his Excellency may arrive. . . ^ . I have, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. ' 4 No. 99. 3A (le Staal to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received March S.) Cher Tionl Salisbury, Londres, le 21 Fe'rricr (7 Mars), 1888. J'AI eu riKmneurdo rcccVoir la letttv que vous avcz bi«!u aouIu m'adresseren date (hi ti Mai-s au sujet de la pi'oposition faitc par lo Gouvorneraeiit des Ktats- 1, nis d'AiH(''rique en vuo du ri'^glomcnt de la question dc la chasse aux phoques dans hi inor de Behring. Votro Excellences ni'ayant fait part du desir du Gouverneiuont do Sa StajesU' 13ritanniquf dc voir la Russio concourir aux arrangements h concortcr pour " preserver dc la mine une branchc d'industrio iniportantc, je m'cmpresserai d'en informer li' Gouvernenicnt Imperial on prijwit ^[. dc Oicrs dc mc inunir des instructions ncces- saires pour le cas ou Ic Miiiistcrc Imp(3rial m'autoriscrait ti m'associcr aux ncgociatioib sur I'objet cu question. • .• " • ' -J Veuillcz, &c. ' ■ '■■ - (Sign6) STAAL. • No. 93. t No. 96. 183 ,h latiUide, and ich, during the rnment to join for seal'tishing arch 3, 1H88. e information of iter in London,* ultimo, in wliicli iiig ♦he fur seals addressed to Sir I Lord Salisbuiy in \vi]l move liiin lie subject. UNCI5FOTK. March 3, 188?. le United States of fur seals in would authoiizc and myself, and VL do Giers ami SALISBURY. 8.) Marx), 1888. 'adresseron duti' <U's Ktats-lnis jues dans hi n\or do Sa Majostc j)our*\)r6servCT Ten informer li' itriietions lUTt's- anx: iiL«gociation> llcz, &c. STA.VL. (Translation.) Dear Lord Salisbury, ,....•. London, Februurji 21 {March 7), 1BS9. I HAVE had tiic honour to receive the letter Avhich you were i^ood enou£fh to address to me on the J'rd >[arcli respeetinp; the proposal made by the («overninent of the United States of America with the oliject of settling the question of seal-hunting in liehring's Sea. Your lixt;elleiicy having acquainted me of tlie desire of Iler Uritannic Maj(>sty's Goverinnent to have the co-operatiou of llussia in the arrangements to bo (!on('(M'ted lor the preservation from ruin of an important branch of industry, I shall lose no time in informing the Imperial Government, and I shall ask M. de Giers to furnish mo with the nccessju'v instructions in case the Imi)erial Government should authori/.o mo to take part in the negotiations on the subject in question. lleceive, &c. (Signed) STAAL. No. 100. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received March 13.) Sir, Downing Street, March 12, 1888. IN rc])ly to your letter of the ."ird instant, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to acquaint you, for the information of the Martjuis of Salisbury, that ho thinks it will 1)0 necessary to consult the Canadian Government on the proposal to establish a close time for seals in Meiu-ing's Sea before expressing a final opinion ujion it. A copy of your letter and its inelosun; has been forwarded to the Govci'nor-General with a view to obtaining an expression of the views of his Ministers upon it. 1 am to add that Lord Knutsford is inclined to view the proposal of the Unitc(' States' Government with favour, but that be presumes that it will be made (|uite clea . should llf r Majesty's Government assent to it, that such assent will not bo taken as an admission of the claims of thts United States in Behring's Sea, which havo formed and still form tho subject of controvei-sy. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. No. 101. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, March \7, 18S8. 1 HAVE laid before the Marquis of Salisbury your letter of the T^th instant, relative to the proposals of the United States' Government lor the establishment of a close season for the fur-bearing seals which frequent Behring's Sea. By his Lordship's direction I transmit herewith for your information copies of the correspondence, marked ii' the margin,* which has recently passed on this subject ; and I am to request that in laying these papers before Lord Knutsford you will call his attention to the instructions given to Sir L. West to inform the United States' Secretary of State that, in acting upon the invitation conveyed in Mr. Bayard's despatch to Mi*. Phelps ol the 7th ultimo, Her Majesty's Government do not admit the rights of jurisdiction exercised by the United States' authorities in Behring's Sea during the fishing seasons of 188G-S7 and 1887-88, and that the presentation of claims on account of the wrongful seizures of British vessels engaged in the seal-fishing industry will not be affected by such action. I am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Ifoa. 98, 90, and 103. "1 :r:^H In' itik m ^i'i\ P. 1 Sir, No. )02. The Marquis of Salishury to Sir L. West. Foreiyn Office, March 17, 1S8S. SINCE fonvardiiii,' to joii my (lo!-i)atch of tlu> 2'Iiul ultimo 1 liavc bcon i,i communication witli tl:e IJussian Ambassador at tliis Court, and liavo invited lijs Excellency to ascertain wlielher liis (Jovernment would authorize Inm to discuss witli Mr. Phelps and myself ilie sui^i^'-stion made hy !Mr. Hayard in his despatch of tlic 7th February, that concerted action should be tak(>u by the United State's, CJreat Britain, and other interested Towers, in order to preserve from extermination the fur seals whicdi at certain seasons are found iu Hehrini;'s Sea. Copies of the correspoudeiiee on this question which has passed between M. dr Slaal and myseh'is inclosed herewith.* 1 request that you will inlbrni .Mr. llayard of the st(>ps ^^llicll have been taken, with a view to the initiation of ne^()tiatioii>^ lor an Asfreement between the three Powers ]irineipally coneen-ned in the niaintenanee of the seal lishcri(\s. But in so doin;^', you should state that this action im the ])avt of Jlcr ^Fajesty's (Jov(>rnmcnt nuist not ho taken as an admission of the rii^hts of jurisdiction in Behrimr's S(>a exercised there by the United States' aulluirities dm inu: tii(> lisliiui^' seasons of 1SS().S7 and 1887-SS, nor as afl'ectiniij the claims which Her ^fajesty's (iovenni'i'iit will have to present on account of the \vron!j;fiil seizures which have taken ])laeo of British vessels eugat^ed in the seal-Gshin!» industrv. I .im, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 103. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received March 22.) Sir, Doxrnimj Street, March 22, 1888. I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to he laid iiefoi-e the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy <it n notiii' ot' a (nicitiou to In- asked in tlic House of Coimnons on Monday next by Mr. (jotu'ley, rcspcctint; the alleged clearing for Bchrinu's Sea ot Canadi.m sealint;; schooners with armed Indian crews liir tiie pur|'.ose of \vni;ini; war u])on Atneiican Revenue cutttrs, sliould llieir eonunaiul' rs attempt to molest them. The (juestion also asl;s what measures Her .Majesty's (jovernmeut intend adopting for the purpose of arriving at an amicable solution ol the Alaskan Fishciies disputes. Lord Knetslord has telegraphed to the Covcrnor-tjlencral of Canada to incpiirc into tiie truth of tie report referred to iu the question, hut he would be alad if ti.e Marc|uis ot f-'alishury would inform \\\m of the answer wliieh should be nturned to that part of tlic question which relates to t!ie measures to he adojjted for a, settlement ol' tiie Alaskan J'ishcries dispute. Lord Knutsford would also be glad to receive Lord Salisbury '■; opinion as to whetlRr it wouki be legally justifiable, and, il so, ailvisahle, to desire tlio conuninidcrs of Ihr Majesty's ships to disarr.i any Jirilish sealing sui _ouers sailing with such intention us is alleged in the report. I am, ice. (Signed) IL IL ME ADM. Inelosure in 2^o. 103. Quest inn to he asked in the House of Commons, March '26, ISSS. Mr. Gourlrji, — To ask the Under-Secretary of State for the Colonies whctlier it is correct, as reported by cable from Victoria, British Cobunbia, that a number of Ganudian sealing schooners have been ])eruiitted to clear for ndiiing's Sea with the intention of i>rosecuting seal-lishiiig contrary to the regulations ol the United States' Alasknn authorities, carrying large Indian crews for the purpose of waging war upon American Revenue cutters, should their commanders attempt to nu)k'st them. And what measures Her Majesty's Government intend adopting lor the purpose of arriving at an amicable solution of tb.c Alaskan Fisheries disputes. • Nos S8 Olid 09. 17, 1S88. vc boon 111 invited his [lisenss with patch of the tutcs, Circa! linatidu the twcen ^I. (h' been lakoii, nirc(> Powers (loinu;, you must not 1)0 oreisccl there and 1887-HS, () present on is enijaged hi JSIiUllY. b 2-2, 1888. lie Marquis of Commons on rinii's Sea ot ;ini; war upon I. il adopting for tes. iiKinirc into Marquis ot at part of tiie tlie AUisUan IS to whether idcrs of Ihr intention us is MliADi;. 185 ■■•••'•' » ■ !■: ■■■•'■ . .■ '■ ».^ No. 104. >;■ ■• • ■ ' ■■■ Foreign Office to Colonial OJice, Sir, Foreign Office, March 24, 1888. I AM directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 2'ind instant, calling attention to a notice of a question to be asked by Mr. Gourley in the House of Commons on the 26th instant (1) in regard to the alleged clearing for Behring's Sea of certain Canadian sealing schooners with armed Indian crews, for the purpose of waging war upon American Revenue cutters, should the commanders of the latter attempt to molest them ; and (2) as to the measures which Her Majesty's Gover.i- ment intend to adopt for airiving at an amicable solution of the Alaskan Fisheries disputes. With reference to the latter part of Mr. Gourley's question, I am to request that you will state to Lord Knutsford tliat, although some delay is inevitable in pressing for an immediate settlement of the questions wliicli have arisen between this country and the United States in connection with the fur-seal fisheries in Behring's Sea, there is no reason to believe that any further illegal seizures of British vessels will take place, especially as the United States' Government have invited Her Majesty's Government to negotiate a Convention for a close time, thereby admitting their claim to exclusive rights in those waters to be untenable. Lord Salisbury, however, will again endeavour to obtain assurances on the subject from the Government of the United States. As regards the rumours which have reached this country by telegraph from Victoria, British Columbia, of the clearance of Canadian vessels for Behring's Sea, manned with armed Indian crews, I am to state that Lord Salisbury will be prep'ired to submit the matter to the Law Officers of the Crown, should the rumours in questii n be confirmed, but that if the vessels are armed, not (or purposes of attack, but for purposes of resistance to illegal seizures on the high seas, it would seem difficult to justify any interference with them on the part of Her Majesty's cruizers. In conclusion, 1 am to suggest, lor Lord Knutsford's consideration, that, in reply to Mr. Gourley's inquiry as to " what measures Her Majesty's Government intend adopting for the purpose of arriving at an amicable solution of the Alaskan Fisheries disputes," it might be stated that the question is now under the consideration of the two Governments concerned, but that it would be premature at this moment to say more than that Her Majesty's Government have no reason to doubt that a satisfactory arrangement will be arrived at. I am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. it is corrcet, of Canadian tlic intention ;ites' Alaskan pon x\merican )r the purpose No. 105. Colonial Offi.e to Foreign Office. — {Received March 26.) Sir, Downing Street, March 24, 1888. WITH reference to my letter of yesterday's date respecting a question to be asked Jn the House of Commons upon the subject of the alleged clearance of Canadian sealing vessels ii>. the Rohring's Sea with armed Indian crews, I am directed by Lord Knutsford. to transmit to you, to he laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a telegram which lias this day been received I'rom the Governor-General of Canada. I am to request to be informed of the answer which Lord Salisbury would wish to be returned to the Governor-General in regard to the latter part of his telegram. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosure in No. 105. The Marquis of Lansdowne to Lord Knutsford. (Telegraphic.) Ottawa, March 22, 1888. I HAVE received your telegram of the 22nd. The press has published rumour referred to, but it is not credited here, or confirmed by information, private or official. It is, however, of great importance, in order to avoid injury to fishing interest and risk [12&J 2 B 'ill!. ill .J; i f na I ! Ill i| i i\i 186 of further complications, to obtain from United States' Government explicit statement of its intentions as to sealers found in Behring's Sea this season. *( Jtr,\'< 1 i\ No. 106. Count Piper to the Marquis of iSalisbury. — {Received March 27.) EN se referent h la note verbale en date du 1 1 Octobre dernier, par laquelle M. If Marquis de Salisbury a cxprim^ le desir de connaitre si le Gouvcrnement du Roi accepterait i'invitation qui iui avait etd adressee par le Gouvernemcnt des Etats-Unis ti entrer dans un aiTangement concernant la peche aux plioques dans la tner de Behring, le Comte Piper a I'honncur, d'ovdre de son Gouvernemoiit, de Iui communiquer ci-joint la reponsc quo le Comte Ehrensvard a fait parvenir a ce sujet au Ministre des lUtats-Unis a Slockhoini. Londres. le 24 Mars, 1888. (Translation.) WITH reference to the note verbale of the lllh October last, in which the Marquis of Salisbury expressed the wish to know if the King's Government would accept the iiivi. tation addressed to them by that of the United States to come to an arrangement concerning the seal fishery in Behrinj^'s Sea, Count Piper has the iionour, by order of his Goversiment, to communicate to Lord Salisbury the inclosed reply which Count Ehrens- vard has addressed to the United States' Minister at Stockholm on the subject. London, March 24, 188S. Inclosure in "So. 106. Count Ehrensvard to the United States' Minister at Stockholm. Le l.") Mars, 1888. PAR une lettre en date du 17 Septembre de Tannic passee Vous avez bien voulu, iiu nom de Votre Gouverncment, inviter les Royaumes-Unis a entrer dans un arrangement avcc les fitats-Unis pour la preservation des phoques dans la mer de Behring. La chasse aux phoques dans ccs parages n'^tant, jusqu'a present, que d'un interet mininie pour les Royaumes-Unis, le Gouvcrnement dc Roi a cru ne pas devoir prendre part activement a ccs pourparlers, lesquels il suivra toutefois avec toutc I'attention que m6rite I'affaire. 11 sera ainsi heureux d'apprendrc que les pourparlers engag<;s cntre les Puissances inte'ressees en premiere lignc a ce sujet aient pu nboutir a un arrangement international, et que la faculte d'adhdrer h I'ententc serait, le cas ^eheant, reservde aux autres Puissances. Veuillez, &c. ; s/nf^f. ),v,>v .A, ■ ' , (Sign^) EHRENSVARD. (Translation.) March 16, 1888. IN a letter dated the 17th September of last year You were good enough, in the name of Your Government, to invite the United Kingdoms to enter into an arrangement with the United States for the preservation of seals in Behring's Sea. As the hunting of seals in thosj regions is at present but of very slight interest to the United Kingdoms, the Government of the King have not thought it their duty to take an active part in these negotiations, though they will be glad to follow them with all the attention which the matter deserves. They will also be glad to learn that the negotiations between the Powers chiefly interested have successfully resulted in an international arrange- ment, and that liberty will be reserved to the other Powers to join in such an arrangcrmnt should they desire to do so. '' Receive, &c. (Signed) EHRENSVARD. •'V\ iv •Kii <.'i<\it\ Hi V'tijoi txiir/M t-:t:-ni^h. (T. Sir, ssm >licit Btatement .-'A J.) laquclle M. Ii' I Roi acceptcrait I entrer flans un J Comtc Piper u reponsc que le ■>tockholni. lich the Martinis accept the iiivi- an arrangc-mciit i)y order of liis ) Count Ehrcns- ijl'Ct . m. 5 Mitrs, 1888. ;z bien voulu, lui un an-angenient ing. que d'un interet IS devoir prendre Vattention que ngag6s entrc ies un arrangement int, reserv^e aux RENSVAllD. arch IG, 1888. jgh, in the name igement with tlic it interest to tlic ■ duty to take an lem with all the the negotiations national arrangc- an arrangement {ENSVAKD. 187 No. 107. Colonial Office to Foreiyn Office. — {Received March 29.) Sir, Downing Street, March 28, 1888. WITH reference to the letter from this Department of the 24th instant, and to yours of the same date, relating to the alleged clearing for Behring's Sea of certain Canadian sealing schooners with armed Indian crews, for the purpose of resisting the American Revenue cutters, should the commanders of the latter attempt to molest them, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a telegram received from the Governor«General of Canada, from which it appears that this rumour is not unfounded. Lord Knutsford desires to call the attention of Lord Salisbury to the suggestion of the Governor-General that the Admiralty should instruct the Admiral commanding on the station to watch the proceedings on the spot. His Lordship would also suggest that this matter should be brought under the immediate notice of the United States' Government in order that a definite announcement of their intentions during the i)resent season with reference to the Behring's Sea sealers may be obtained ; with such inibrmation Her Majesty's Government would be better able to eonsider how further complications may best be avoided. I am, &c. (Signed) EDWARD WINGFIELD. Ifiili Inclosure in No. 107. Lord Lansdowne to Lord Knutsford. (Telegraphic.) Ottawa, March 27, 1888. I AM informed by Lieutenant-Governor of British Columbia that sealers on the point of departure for Beliring's Sea are arming the vessels and crews to resist capture by American Revenue cutters. We think it desirable that Admiral should be instructed to watch proceedings on the spot. I have telegraphed to Lieutenant-Governor to issue notice cautioning sealers to refrain from any assertion of right by force of arms, and pointing out grave results which might ensue from resort to arms whilst negotiations still in progress. It seems to us impo.ssiblc to prevent fishermen taking on board the arms and ammunition usually required for their own protection and for use in seal-fishing. Reports reach us from Victoria that United States' Government has issued orders for the seizure of all sealers found this season in Behring's Sea. Let me again urge necessity of obtaining from United States' Government definite announcement of its intentions during present fishing season in those waters. ' •• ; i,i No. 108. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. West. — (Substance telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign Office, March 30, 1888. I INCLOSE, for your information, a copy of a letter from the Colonial Office,* inclosing a telegram from the Governor-General of Canada, from which it appears that the British vessels and crews now fitting out for the approaching seal-fishing season in Behring's Sea are being armed with a view to oflfering resistance to their capture by American cruizers when so occupied. Lord Lansdowne also reports that it is rumoured in Victoria that orders have been issued bv the United States' Government for the seizure of all seahrs found this season in Behring s Sea. I request that you will inform Mr. Bayard of the report in question, and that you'will earnestly represent to him the extreme importance that Her Majesty's Government should be enabled to contradict it. > I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. ri28) • No. 107. 2 B 2 Iff If M 'Mi m f t« * :l a 188 No. 109. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. . Sir, Foreign Office, March 30, 1888, I HAVE laid before the Marquis of Salisbury your letter of the 28th instant, inclosin; a telegram from the Governor-General of Canada, from which it appears that the vesseii and crews now preparing for the seal-fishing season in Belirin£;'8 Sea are being armed with a view to offering resistance to their capture in that sea. I am to request that you will inform Lord Knutsibrd, in reply, that Sir L. West has been instructed to call Mr. Bayard's attention to the rumour current in Victoria that orders have been issued by the United States' Government to capture British ships fishing in Behring's Sea, and he has been further directed to represent earnestly the extreme importance that Her Majesty's Government should be enabled to contradict the rumour in question. On receipt of Sir L. West's reply a further communication will be addressed to you. I am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 110. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received April 2.) My Lord, Washington, March 19, 1888. I HAVE the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith copy of a telegram which 1 have received from Mr. Foster, the Canadian Minister of Marine and Fisheries, as well as copy of a despatch which I have addressed to the Marquis of Lansdowne in reply thereto, and which is based on unotlicial communication with the State Department. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure 1 in No. 110. Mr. Foster to Sir L. West, (Telesraphic.) Ottawa, March 6, 1888. IT seems that Canadian sealers are required to carry appeal to United States' Court, or, by failure to do that, will forfeit bonds. Can they be allowed, pending definite settle- ment between United States and Great Britain, to bond vessels and skins without obligation to appeal ? Inclosure 2 in No. 110. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Lansdowne. {Extract.) Washington, March 19, 1888. I HAVE the honour to inclose to your Excellency herewith copy of a telegram which I have received from Mr. Foster, your Excellency's Minister of Marine and Fisheries, relative to pending proceedings in the cases of Canadian sealers seized in Behring's Sea, and, in rep'.y, to inform your Excellency that the Attorney-General has stated that Rule X of the Practice in Admiralty and Rules of the Supreme Court (1887) make it plain that the confiscated ships can be bonded pending appeal. No. 111. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. West, ''. I, Sir, i "f- '■'■,'. Foreign Office, April Z,12>^%. THE United States' Minister called upon me to-day, previous to his return to America. He was anxious to speak to me especially with reference to the condition of thi? seal-fishery in Behring's Sea. ch 30, 1888. stunt, inclosing mt the vessels ng armed with ir L. West has Victoria that lb ships fishing ly the extrems the rumour in essed to you. fNCEFOTE. rch 19. 1888. telegram which id Fisheries, as ' Lansdowne in te Department. LLE WEST. '^arch 6, 1888. ;d States' Court, g definite settle- ithout obligation 180 He expressed the hope that instructions would soon arrive which would cuablc the Russian Ambassador to negotiate on the subject of establishing a close time during which the capture of seals in certain localities should not be permitted ; and he nddcil that, whenever that Convention could be arranged, it would put an end to all the difficulties which had arisen with respect to the seal-fishery in that sea. Mr. Phelps was very anxious for dispatch because the destruction of tlic species was enormous, and was increasing in volume every year. Hut under liic peculiar political circumstances of America at this nioment, with a general election im|)cnclii)f,', it would, be said, be of little use, and, indeed, hardly practicable, to conduct any negotiation to its issue before the election had taken place. He held it, however, to be of great importance that no steps should be neglected that couV.l be taken for the purpose of reir.leriuL; tlio negotiation easier to conclude, or for supplying the place of it until tiic conclusion was obtained. He informed me, therefore, unofficially, tint be had received from Mr. J?nyard a private letter, from which he read to me a pas«ago to the fjllowing etibct : — "I shall advise that secret instructions be given to American cniizers not to molest British ships in Behring's Sea at a distance from the shore, and this on the ground that the negotiations for the establishment of a close time are going on." But, Mr. Phelps added, tiiere is every reason that this step should not become public, as it might give encouragement to the destruction of seals that is taking place. I suggested to him that it would be desiraole for Lord Lansdowne to know of it, as his Excellency was much embarrassed by the measures for self-defence which were being taken by some of the sealing-ships that were fitting out from British Columbia. Mr. Phelps then said that he would have no objection to my comtnnnicating this information to Lord Lansdowne confidentially. .At the same time he expressed the hope that I would represent to Lord Lansdowne the importance of refusing cleara;icc, if he could do so, to all ships going out from ports ip British Columbia to shoot seals iu Behring's Sea during close time, that is to say, from the l.'jth April to the 1st November. He also said he presumed that any Convention for exercising police in BehrioL^'s Sea must, in the case of America and Great Britain, be supported by legislation ; and he would be very glad if Her Majesty's Government would try to obtain the requisite powers during the present Session. I replied that the matter should have our immediate attention. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 112. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received April 4.) (Telegrai)hic ) Washington, April 3, 1888. I HAVE made representation to Secretary of State as directed in your telegram of the 30tii ultimo. He begs me to inform your Lordship that no orders have been issued for capture of British ships fishing in Behring's Sea. !\ rch 19, 1888. of a telegram lof Marine and ^alers seized \n ley-General has ]e Court (1887) }^pril 3, 1888. his return to londition of the •' I No. 113. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, April 5, lt;'<8. WITH reference to your letter of the 28th ultimo, I am directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to state to you, for the information of Secretary Lord Knutsford, that a telegram has been received from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington reporting that the United States' Secretary of State has informed him that no orders have been issued by the Government of the United Slates for the capture of British ships fishing in Behring's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. ;m' m m>'- No. 1 14. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Reeeivei April 1 1 .) -1 '<i* t ■ Sir, Downing Street, April 10, 1888. I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to tranHinit to you, to be laid before the Mar(|uis of Salisbury, an extract of a dcspatcb from the Governor-General of Canada respecting the question of bonding tbe Britisb Healing-vessels captured by the United States' cruizers in Behring's Sea during last season, and again urging the desirability of obtaining from the Government of the United States a distinct intimation uf its intentions with regard to tlie approaching season. [ am, &c. (Signed) .JOHN BRAMSTON. IncloBure in No. 1 14. ll:i The Marquis of Lansdowne to Lord Knutsford. (Extract.) Oovernment House, Ottawa, March 21, 1888. I AM given to understand by my Minister of Marine and Fisheries that permis- sion has actually been given to the owners of the British vessels to bond them pending appeal, provided that the sureties are citizens of the United States and resident therein. He has, however, learnt that the British Columbian owners who are coucerned in tbis matter are not willing to bond their vessels if they are thereby bound to carry an appeal to the United States' Courts, and if, by not proccedmg with the appeal, they would thereby forfeit their bonds. It has, moreover, been suggested that, by giving bonds pending an appeal to the Supremo Court of the United States, the owners might thereby place the matter outside the scope of any diplomatic negotiations which may take place upon this subject, a result which they would naturally be desirous of avoiding. They have now inquired whether it would be possible for them to bond their vessels, &c., pending, not an appeal to the Supreme Court, but the diplomatic settlement of the question which has arisen in connection with the seal fishery in these waters. I shall be glad if Her Majesty's Government will invite the attention of that of the United States to this request, which should be attended to as soon as possible. From information which I have received, there is reason to believe that the seal-skins on board of these vessels will be sold at Sitka on the 19th April. In connection with tbe subject of this despatch, I venture again to call your attention to the inquiry made in my telegram of the -^Ist March, 1887, in regard to the action likely to be taken during the present year by cruizers of the United States in Behring's Sea against sealers frequenting these waters. The uncertainty as to this has had a very prejudicial eifect upon the fishing interests of British Columbia, and I would urge that, both in order to avoid this inconvenience, and also in order to obriate the risk of further friction between the two Governments, an explicit statement of its intentions should be obtained from that of the United States with as little delay as possible. It is, I think, obvious that an international arrangement whereby a close time would be established for fur-seals within certain limits is not likely to be arrived at in time to provide for the requirements of the fishing season of this year. I have communicated a copy of this despatch to Sir Lionel West. - / • ..-, ,1- ■ ■ :Mi\ .■y/j .rn, -! , ■■>•.. M .'( -Ji A I f . .•'.../ ■ 'i !vii; I t !i,,:} ~i ■■■'•• nil 10. 1888. arc the Mar(iuis a respecting the ;ates* cruizers in obtaining from ions with regard 3RAMST0N. arch 21, 1888. ries that permis- nd them pending resident therein, oucerned in this J carry an appeal )peal, they would in appeal to the le matter outside i subject, a result I to bond their imatic settlement liese waters. ntion of that of Is possible, lelieve that the il. lain to call your in regard to the United States in ity as to this has ibia, and I would T to obviate the itatement of its IS little delay as ■eby a close time he arrived at in >(iii 191 .... Na 116. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, April li, 1888. I LAID before the Marquis of Salisbury your letter of the 10th instant, together with the despatch from the Marquis of Lansdownc therein inclosed, respecting the bonding of British sealing-vcssels captured by United States' cruizers in Behring's Sea during last season, and again urging the desirability of obtaining from the United states' (iovcrnment a distinct intimation of their intentions with regard to the approaching season. On this latter point my other letter of this day will have made knotui to the Secretary of State for the Colonies Lord Salisbury's views. With regard to the question of "the bonding for appeal vessels or cargoes condemned to forfeiture by the District Court of Alaska," I am directed i)y Lord Salisbury to observe that the arrangement proposed in paragraph 6 of Jjord Lansdowne's despatch would operate as an abandonment of the right of appeal without any certain prospect of a remedy by diplomatic action. His Lord.ship would therefore suggest, for the consideration of Lord Knutsford. whether it might not be preferable to propose lo the United Slates' (lovemment that the time limited for the prosecution of the appeals should be extended by consent for such period as may allow of a settlement by diplo- matic negotiation, without prejudice to the ultimate legal remedy by appeal, should such negotiation be unsuccessful. As regards the sureties. Lord Salisbury docs not think that reasonable objection can be taken to the stipulation that they should be citizens of the United States and resident therein, and therefore within the jurisdiction of the American Courts. I am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 117. > ■ s iS'ir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received April \ 6.) t My Lord, . . Washington, March 27 , 1888, a I HAVE the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith copies of a letter addressed to Senator Dolph, of Oregon, by Mr. James G. Swan, Assistant Collector of Port Townsend, Washington Territory, relative to fur-seals in the waters of Alaska and in the Behring's Sea. The migration of the New England fishermen to the Pacific coast, and their deter, mination to assert the right to fisL or hunt in the American waters of P'^'ing's Sea, outside of S nautical miles from any island or the mainland of Alaska, t.ill have an important bearing on the jurisdiction claimed by the United States' for the benefit of the Alaska Commercial Company. ..: I have, &c. .... ,. (Signed) L. S. S?ACKVILLE WEST. . i !!(J> Inclosure in No. 117. CiOlh Congress. — Senate. — Mia. Doc. No. 78. In TiiK Senate of the Uniteu States. ■ Ml March 15, 1888. — Presented by Mr. Dolph, and ordered to lie on the table and , . , ■■.. , be printed. - Letter of Janus G. Swan, Assistant Collector, Port Townaend, Washington Territory, .rl '«♦'/ i(.. '■^''""^^'' '" P^^ Seals in the Waters of Alaska and in the Behring's Sea. niij.'!:' Senator, ^ Port Townsend, Washington, March 7, 1888. I HAVE the honour to inform you of the arrival here of the first vessel of the Uloucester, Massachusetts, fishing fleet— the schooner "Mollio Adams," Captain Johnson, <l':i^ .'..I' '1 102 i i )) im whicli nrrivod here on tlic 3rd instant. Tliis vessel is owned by Captain Solomon Jacol.s, of Glouecster, who has taken command of her, and mIic sails to-day on a scaling expedition from oti' the mouth of the Columbia, following the herd north. SeaU are reported ns bein^f unusually numerous this season and nre in niyriads. California steamers report runnin;;: through one herd which extended 100 miles, and the seals appeared to be as thick ns they could swim. After the sealing season is over the schooner will engage in the hiilibut niul cod fishery nnd send their catch in ice to the Eastern markets. Another of Captain Jacobs' schooners, tlie " Wibster," will be here in April, nnd several others will be here this season. Next year between fifty and sixty vessels nre expected, nnd they will be followed by others, nnd witiiin two years a colony of several hundred of these fishermen will be here to develop the wealth now dormant and hidden in our waters. Since 1 returned from (Jueen Charlotte's Islnnd, in 18S.'^, I have persistently urged on Piofcs.sor Hnird the necessity of sending one of the United Stutes' Fish Commission steamers to the Pacific to develop our fisheries, and shortly before Professor Bnird's lamented denth he wrote me that the " Albatross " would be sent to our waters, ond she is now on her way out. Tluse (iloucester fishermen will vender valuable assistance to Captain Tanner. It is to tlie fislieinien of Gloucester, Cape Cod, nnd the const of Maine that the United States' Fish Commission is largely indebted for much of the valuable information respect iuf;' the Atlantic fisheries, which has been published by that ndmirnblc Bureau of the Smitlisoninn Institution. Ilithorlo no i)rolL'i.'tion has been given our Pacitie fishermen by our Government. The Treaty of is 18 dcrs not nllude to the Pncific const, nor does the present Treaty, so fnr as 1 am informed, make any provision for or allusion to the fisheries of the North I'acilic. British Columbia is, ns it were, sandwiched between Washington and Alaska; our interosls are identical, and at present the most harmonious and kindly feeling exists between tlie penple of British Columbia and ourselves. Every steamer for Alaska which takes thf inside iiassage passes through the waters of British Colninbia, affording a means of (lelij;litfiil recreation to thousands of tourists. This kindly feeling should be encouraged, and ]>articularly in reference to our fishermen who wish to fish the waters of the coast from the Columbia to Alaska. But these New EnglnntI fishermen nsk more than to fish along the coast; they wish to explore the waters of Behring's Sea and the Arctic Ocean, and to be permitted to take any of the products of the ocean in American waters without the annoyance they have been subjected to for so many years on the Canadian coasts of the Atlantic. Ever since the lease of the Pribylov Islands to the Alaska Commercial Company, that powerful monopoly has jiersistently deceived the Congress of the United States and the American people by arrogantly asserting that all the fin seals of the North Pacific Ocean congr..'gatc on the Islands of Saint Paul and St. George, and that the indiscriminate slaughter of those seals would soon exterminate the race. The latter part of this assertion is true, but the first, I assert, is a physical impossibility. The seals of the North Pacific, in countless myriads, could not, by any process of their own, find roopi on those two comparntively insignificant islands, and 1 am prepared to prove that the southern seals, fr(nn the Gulf of Tehuantepec nnd Gulf of California, which come north every season, differ from the seals of the Pribylov Islands, and never " haul out " on that group. The indiscriminate slaughter of fin seals in early days on the Island of Alassafuero, on the coast of Chile, and on the San Benito Islands of Lower California, drove the seals away from those once famous rookeries, and they seem to have acquired new habits. A paid writer of tlie Company, Henry W. Elliott, in an otherwise excellent monograph on the fin seal islands of Alaska, boldly asserts that the seals of the North Pacific all congregate on the Pribylov Islands. He further asserts that those seals have their pups on land, and that if a pup is thrown into the water it carmot swim, but will sink like a stone, and takes me to task for asserting that the pups of the seals taken at Cape Flattery can swim as soon ns born and oven when taken alive from the mother's womb.* In 188a I was instructed by Professor Baird to investigate the habits of the fin seals and to make a Report thereon, which Report may be found in the Bulletin of the United States' Fish Commission (vol. iii, 1883, p. 201). In that Report I have shown by thirteen witnesses, some of them Government officials, that the fin seals of Cape Flattery do have their pups in the water, on the kelp and at other places not yet discovered, and that the pups swim as soon as born ; this evidence as against Mr. Elliott's * Unite J Stales' Commission of Fish and Fishericg, Speciel Bulletin 176, a Vcnojraph o^ tlie Seal Islands of Alaska, by Henry W. Elliott, 1882, p. 166, lant paragraph. lOS ion JacoLi*, of pg expedition c reported as •atncrs report (ircd to 1)0 m iviil engage in ets. in April, and Xy vcssoIh are »ny of several nt and hidden latently urged li Commission fessor Baird's aters, and she 1 Tanner. It it the United 2 information iblc Bureau of Government, snt Treaty, so of the North n and Alaska ; ' feeling exists Alaska which irding a means be encouraged, rs of the coast ast ; they wish mittcd to take mcc they have •cial Company, ted States and North Pacitie indiscriminate this assertion North Pacific, on those two louthern seals, every season, group. The .fuero, on the he seals away ,bits. A paid igraph on the :ill congregate pups on land, a stone, and ;ery can swim jits of the fin lulletin of the ^avc shown by iials of Cape paces not yet Mr. Elliott's unsuiiiiorted, dogmatic assertion that the pups will Hink like a stone. I believe that Mr. E"'.ott is correct so far as the seals of the Pribylov Inlands are con-.-erned, and I know that I am correct ho far as regards the seals of Cape Flattery, and, believing that both of us arc correct, it proves incontestably that the seals wiiich come from the south to t'ape Flattery differ in their habits from those of Ikhring's Sea. '1 hesc cnstern fishermen, knowing the value of the rookeries, are desirous that tho law protecting the seals on the Pribylov Islands, as well as the provisions of the lease to the Alaska Commercial Company, should be rigidly enforced. But Miey do not believe that the term " adjacent waters " named in that lease ever meant or was intended to mean all the waters of the North I'acitic Ocean. They believe that they, as American citizens, have a right to fish or hunt in the American waters of Behring's Sea, outside of ;J nautical miles from any island or the mainland of Alaska. They believe that William H. Seward did not purchase Alaska for the Alaska Commercial Company, but for the whole nation. These fishermen from New England demand as a right that they be permitted to pursue their honourable business in the American waters of the North Pacific, Mebring's Sen, and the Arctic without being treated as criminals and hunted down nnd seized and imprisoned by the piratical Bevenue cutters of the LTnited States, at the iliotion and for tiie sole benefit of the Alaska Commercial Com|mny. These tishermen iiheady here, and the colonies which will be here next year with their Heets of schooners, arc of vastly more importance to the American nation than the monopoly of the .Vlaska Commercial Company. And they have re<iuested me to address you. Senator, and other Senators, respectfully asking you to kindly lonk into this (|uestion, and have it oniered by the Treasury Department that American citizens can take any of the products of the ocean outside of 3 marine miles from any island in Behring's Sea or the coasts of the mainland of Alaska. Hitherto the outrageous arrogance and assumption of the Alaska Commercial Company has been only met by feelilc protests from merchants of San Francisco and a few Portland traders. But now a new order of things is about >eing inaugurated. An intelligent nnd valuable eln«s of New England fishermen are comwig here to reside among us and become citizens of Oregon, Washington, and Alaska. They know tiieir rights as .\merican citizens, and they are determined to have their rights. It is time liat the farce played by the Alaska Commercial Company was ended, and that the sorry >ight of American Revenue cutters hunting down our own citizens for the benefit of that huge monopcly should for ever cease. I have given this subject careful attention for many years, but have had no occasion to take any jiarticular interest in it until now, and now is the time to speak nnd act. These determined, energetic fishermen of New England are here, and more coming. All they ask is their right as American citizens to hunt and fish in American waters outside :i miles from liuui. Strictly enforce the law prohibiting the taking of seals on the Pribylov Islands ; strictly enforce the law prohibiting the introduction of spirits or fire- arms among Indians; but give the fishermen the right to develop the wealth in our waters, encourage them to make new discoveries, aid them in every legal manner to pursue their avocations, and they will prove a new source of wealth to our Pacific States, and add to our population a new and a most desirable element. I have had the honour. Senator, to address Senator Mitchell and Senator Stanford upon this important question, and if there are any points on which you would like further information, I .shall esteem it an honour if you will address me, and I will give you all the information I possess. 1 want to see Behring's Sea and all American waters open to American fisheimen, ami I e 'rncstly and respectfully solicit your kind consideration of the question. I have, &c. (Signed) JAMES G. SWAN. The Hon .Tosepli N. Doipii, Senator in Conjrrcss trom Oregon. ■;■' le Si^al Islands ol' [128] (i ! 194 No. 118. Sir I,. Wi'nl tn Ihr Mtirquis of Salishury. — {Rcrrivnl Apr!! l(i.) My liiinl, Utmhini/loii, MiirrU'U, IHSS. I IIAVI'^j (lie lumoui (o iu'kiiowlc(lK«' tli«! ifcciitt of your lj('r(l-<lii|)'N (l("H|int(li ol tlio ITlli instiinl, aixl to iiicloHc liorutvilli copy of a note tvliicli i iul<lrosH(><l to llir 8o<Mrtiii7 of Stiilc ill (lio soiiso of (liiit ilcspalcli, iis woll ih copv of tlio ie|»l,v wliicli I Inivc roofivftl (liorolo. I llRVO, Ikv. (Hiu:ii!(l) li. S. SACiKVILLK VVKiHT. Inclosuic 1 ill No. 1 18. tiir h. IVei>l to Mr. liai/iird. Sir, WiishiiKjIun. March L'O. IH.^H. WITH rdoroiico (o \\w iiioposotl i-oiucid't! artion !»_>• (Jroat Hiilain, llic Uiiild S(iit« s, iiiiii oIluT iiilorfstcil I'owiTs, in ortiiT to iircscrvo tioiii oxU'iininatioii liio fur hchIs wiiicli al oorliiiii .seasons arc I'ouinl in nciirinf;'s Son, 1 am nM|ncstoil lt,y tlic Mnnjui.s of Salislxirv <o inrorni joii that tliu Knssiiin AiiiIiiissikIoi- in LdikIoii IniH Itoun cominiinicated \\\\\\ on llio .siilijocl. and that lio lias iciorrcd to his (lOVornnuMit tor inHtriicdoiiH. But. in making tliis I'oniniiinifation to voii, I am instrucUul to slate thai Uiih action on tlio |mi'l of IKr Majosty's (iovornnicnl must not hu taken as an admisoion of the riji'lits of jmisdiction in Moliiinf>'.s Sea oxorcisod there hy the United StatoH' authoritios (luriiif; tlio tishini; .seasons of lS8(i-S7 and 1S.H7-SM, nor as atFeetinj!; the elaims which Her Majesty's (JovernnuMit will have to present m\ aeeount of the wroiifjfiil seizures whicli have taken place of llrilisli vessels en^ifaged in the scal-ti.sliin]u; industrv. I have, iScc. (Signed) li. S. SAdKVILLH WKS'i, Inciosure 2 in No. 118. Mr. liiujiird to Sir L. W'rsl. Sir, Dcparhnriit of Sfiitr, Wiisliiiiylon, Marrli 'M>, IMSS. I llAVK the honour to acknowledge the receipt of yt'"r note of the 20th instant, in I which von inform the Doiiarlment that the action of Her Majesty's (JovernmenI in respect to the proposal of ttiis (lovernment for an arrangement to protect the fur-.scal from extirminatioii in Hehring's Sea is not to he taken as an admission of the jurisdiction of the United States over Hchring's Sea, nor us allecting the claims wiiicli Her Miijesty's Uovernment will have to present on account of the seizure of certain | British vessels in those waters, I have. See. (Signed) T. V. MA YAK I >. No. 111). Sir L. WeKt to the Marquix of Salisbury. — [livrdveil April \i\.) TfllO cliiiiMiiiils tliid erfiidi |)('iidin;r a Oregon, o reltiled (till llie :tlsl I iiiiiier (,'oii valid iippei 'I'o-da to the Dist la'^t l)(!e('iii The U (la y of Ha le Tli(. A M(l<a in pul H'lishii My Lord, Willi horiciur to ii the iinporia ofdeiH had ships fi.shiii<. sense from t of State he telegraphed 1 have which is iiK sealers will accr)rdiiigly II in the above Sea. He pr were instriiet seal fishery i lie (lid not tl marine leagi pieservation American .set rl ' I' ■ ' ' 1* I li i My Loril, IWishinyton, April T), 1S88. WITH reference to my despatch of the I9lh March, \ have the honour to indosd to your Ijord.ship herewith copy of a Memorandum sent to me by the lawyer engagoJ [\2S] faWfMniiTMTI 1,^ 195 in I ho (!UHo of ccrtiiiii scal-Hkiim onlnrcd to bo Hold ftt Sitka, from whidi your LordHhip will porcoivo that Iho iiiattor l.aH bctMi Hutisfactorily adjuHlcd. L liavo coinniiinioalud tliJH Mornorandiiin to Iho MarquiH of IjaiiHdowne. I have, &c. (Higiicd) L. 8. HACKVIUJ5 WEST. IndoNiiro in No. 111). MnniirtiiKluni In/ Mr. Ilnijtiniin, I'lll'j IHHliicl. .Iii(l;;(! for Alaska hiiviii<r rofuMod to admit UritiHli Columhian cIniiniiiiN to tho privilcirc!^ of tho Attornoy-dtinoral'H r)r(l(!rof hint Docomiior, prcHcrihing Mini (•()?wl(Mnii('(l Hcaiiii^r-vossrls and car-foos mij^ht ho roloanod to their lato owricrH, licndiiiv iiii|)i'iil, ii|i<iii Hiip('rHod(!an liorids, with HiirotioH, roHidiii^ in Alaska, California, Orcfjon, or \VaHiiin;;loM Ttirritory (Haid Dinlriot .Itiil/fo coiitonding that the Order rcliiled only to (Ik- oases ol' Aiiieri(;aii rlaiinantH), 1 laid hid'on! the AtlormytJciKsrHl, on till' III Ml iiltimi), (ho I'aHo of the Uritish owner of 1,400 Hoai-skins, ordered to ho sold iiniler OonthMnnaiiDii Decree at Kitka on the IHlli instant, said owner liaving t(!nd(!rod a valid ap|)eal hond with surcities, residing at Han I'VaiKiisco. 'rii-dny, dinin:.^ my atltfodatKM! npon the Attorney -<^J'!i(!ral, ho sent a Joint telegram to tho District .Indgo and the Distriet Attorney at Hitka, advising them that his Order of Ills) D(!cemlier was intended to apply tii all <;l»imants, irrespective of natieimlity. TIk! telegram will go l»y mail from I'ort Townsond, and will roach Hitka lioforo the (l.'iy of Halo in diu; conrsc. Tlu! Attorney-(j!eneral expri^ssed his dissatiHfaction with tho oourso of the officers at Siliui in indrling so narrow a conslriution upon the original Order. (Higned) OlIAitl.ES F. HExV.IAMIN, Counnellor-Ht-Lttw. W'lisfilntjliin, April 4, I8H8. No. 120. i 'f 1 VTT^ air L. Ursl lo III'' MurijiiiH of Halislmr]/. — {Rfjcnivufl April 16.) My Lord, Wdshiiifjl.on, April d, 1888. VVi'J'H reference Lo yonr liordsliip's despatch of the Wth March, 1 have the honoar to inel -se herewith copy of a note which I addressed to Mr. Bayard, representing tho importance of omiMIng Ifer Majesty's Oovernment to contradict tho report that orders had been issned by the United Slates' Government for tho capture of British ships fishing in Behrings Sea. 1 had previously received a communication in the above sense from the Marrpiis of Lansdowno, and at an interview which I had with tho Secreiary of State bo staled lo me that no such orders had been i.ssucd, which information I telegraphed to your Lordship on the ^rd instant. I have sini'o received u I'm tlier telegram from the Marciuis of Lansdowne, copy of which is inclosed, ro'pic.ting to know whelher his Government is to understand that sealers will not hi; niolesled (.'.xcept within the marine league from the shore. I accordingly agn'ii callt'd on Mr. Bayard, and ho re])eatcil to me, in reply to my que.-tion in the above sense, lliat no orders liad boon issued for the capture of sealers in Behring's Sea. He presumed that tlie orilers 1 alluded to as having been issued some yeiirs ago were instructions niider Statute (see 1,9.j0 Revised Statutes) for the regulation of the seal fishery in the waters of Alaska. Pending international negotiations on tiiis subject, lie did not think il was expedient to answer my ()ue^ti(Jn in so far as it related to the marine league liinil, as these negotiations had for object the general protect ion and pioservation of the seal in all waters. He did not wish to see another British or American scaler seized, and hoped that no such seizures would occur. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. i T'Bi ^ iMK [1-26] 2 C 2 I Si ' i ' Hir, 196 Inclosure 1 in No. 120. Sir L. West to Mr. Bayard. Washington, April 2, 1888. I HAVE the honour to inform you that the Marquis of Salisbury has received Intimation from the Canadian Government to the effect that orders have been issu::d by the United States' Government for the capture of British ships fishing in Behring's Sea, and that lie has telegraphed to me to represent earneatly the extreme importance of enabling Her Majesty's Government to contradict this rumour. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure 2 in No. 120. The Marquis of Lansdowne to Sir L. West. (Telegraphic.) April 5, 1888. IN reply to your telegram of the 3rd April, there is an impression here tliat orders were issued some years ago by United States' Government to Collector at San Francisco for seizure of vessels found in Behring's Sea, and that these orders have never been withdrawn. May \ve understand our sealers will not be molested except within the marine league from shore ? No. 121. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R. Morier.* Sir, Foreign Office, April 16, 1888. THE Bussian Ambassador and the United States' Chargd d' Affaires called upon me this at'tcrnoon to discuss the question of the seal fisheries in Behring's Sea, which iiad been brought into prominence by the recent action of the United States. The United States' Government had expressed a d' ire that some agreement should be arrived at between the three Governments for inc purpose of prohibiting the slaughter of the seals during the time of breeding ; and, at my request, M. de Staal had obtained instructions from his Government on that question. At this preliminary discussion it was decided provisionally, in order to furnish a basis for negotiation, and witliout definitively pledging our Governments, that the space to be covered by the proposed Convention should be the sea between America and Russia north of the 47th degree of latitude; that the close time should extend from the 15th April to the 1st November; that during that time the slaugliter of all seals should be forbidden ; and vessels engaged in it should bo liable to seizure by the cruizers of any of the three Powers, and should be taken to the port of their own nationality for condemnation ; that the trafl^ic in arms, alcohol, and powder should be prohibited in all the islands of those seas ; and that, as soon as the three Powers had concluded a Convention, they should join in submitting it for the assent of the other Maritime Powers of the northern "seas. The United States' Charge d'Affaircs was exceedingly earnest in pressing on us tiie importance of dispatch on account of the inconceivable slaughter that had been and was still going on in these seas. He stated that, in addition to the vast quantity brought to market, it was a common practice for those engaged in the trade to shoot all seals they might meet in the open sea, and that of these a great number sank, so tliat their skins could not be recovered. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. • Aliu 10 Sir L, West. Sir, the »il 2, 1888. has received re been issii^d a; in Behring's fie importance T.E WEST. \prU 5, 1888. ere tliat orders ; San Francisco ive never been 1 marine league pril 16, 1888. called upon me Sea, which had rccment should [)rolubiting the d. dc Staal had ler to furnish a that the space irica and Russia Ixtend from the all seals should cruizers of any nationality for irohibited in all ,d concluded a thcr Maritime tssing on us the (d been and was ility brought to )t all seals they that their skins Ialisbuhy. 197 No. 122. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. West, — {Substance telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign Office, April 17, 1888. HER Majesty's Government have had under consideration the particulars received by them in regard to the claims of British sealing-vessels seized in Bchring's Sea, and warned aff by the United States' authorities. Tliey consider that it would be difficult to arrive at a just estimate of the amount of the claims in question without an investigation by a Mixed Commission into the circumstances under which these claims have arisen, which require verification. T have accordingly to request you to ascertain whether the United States' Govern- ment would agree to the appointment of a Mixed Commission, whose functions should be restricted to inquiring whether any compensation is due, and, if so, how much in each case. I am, &c. (Sio;ncd) SALISBURY. No. 123. Foreign Office to Colonial Office: Sir, Foreign Office, April 20, 1888. I AM directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to transmit to you a copy of a despatch which his Lordship has addressed to Her Majesty's Ambassador at St. Petersburgh an 1 Her Majesty's Minister at Washington,+ recording a conversation he has had with the Russian Ambassador and the United States' Charge d' Affaires at this Court, on the subject of the measures which might be adopted to check the indiscriminate slaughter of seals in Bchring's Sea. I am to request that, in laying the inclosed despatch before Her Majesty's Secretary of State for the Colonics, you will move him to favour Lord Salisbury with any observa- tions he may have to offer upon the proposals discussed therein. I am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 124. Colonial Office to Foreign Office, — {Received April 21.) Sir, Downing Street, April 20, 18S8. WITH reference to your letter of the 14th instant, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, for any observations which he may have to offer, a copy of a telegram from the Governor-General of Canada respecting the cases of the British scalers captured last year. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosure in No. 124. The Marquis of Lansdowne to Lord Knutsford, (Telegraphic.) Aprn 18, 1888. IT seems very desirable time for appeal be extended as long as possible. United States' Government should, in the interim, release vessels and skins on security abide by conditions of negotiations. Owners would desire to appeal as last resort should negotia- tions fail. I! ^r'^-i 3 l' -Si; § i? ( Also to l!oard of Trade and Admiraltv t No. ;:i I l: m 5 i ! i ha 108 No. 126. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received April 23.) My fjord, Washington, April 11, 1888. WITH rcforcnce to my dcspntch of the 0th instant, I have the honour to inclose to your Lordship licrcwilh copy of a private note which I have received from Mr. Biiyiird, repeating what lie Iiad told mo on tiie 0th instant, that no orders had iicen issued thiiv year for the seizure of British scaling-vosscls in liehring's Sea. I have forwarded copy of Mr. Bayard's note to the Marquir of Lansdowne. 1 have, &c. (Signed) L. S. 8ACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure in No. 12."). Mr. Bayard to Sir L. West. Dear Sir L'-.mel, Department of Slatr, Woshimjloii, April 10, 18H8. IM'iPi'iHUING to our conversation held on the Otli instant in a jjersonal interview in relation to (ho Treasury orders for the seizure of British scaling-vcssels in Behring's ISea by United States' llevenue cutters, 1 now repeat, at your request, what I tiien told you in reply to the memorandum of iiKpiiry by Lord Salisbury, tiiat no orders on the subject referred to had been issued this year by (be Treasury Department. Very truly yours, (Signed) T. F. BAYAUI), No. 126. Colonial Office to Foreirjn Office. — (Kcccired April 24.) Sir, Downinij Street, April 24, 1888. WITH reference to the previous correspondence relating to the seizure of British fishing-vessels in Behring's Sea by ITnited States' cruizers, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a confidential despatch received from the Governor-General of Canada, inclosing copies of telegrams whicli have passed between his Lordship and the Lieutenant-Governor of British Columbia respecting the arming of scaling-vessols to resist capture by the TInitod States' cini/.ers. I am, iSrc. (Signed) .lOFIN BllAMSTON. Inclosure 1 in No. 126. The Marquis of Lansdowne to Lord Knutsford. My Lord. Government House, Ottawa, March 29, 1888. I 11 W \\i tile iionour to transmit, for your Lordship's information, coi)ies of tulegraub which I liave received from the Lieutenant-Governor of IJritisli Columbia, dated the 27tli and I'Dtli instant, stating that the owners of staling-vessels now on the point ot departure ior tlie Behring's Sea arc arming their vessels and crews to resist capture by United States' cruisers, f also inclose a copy of my reply to the former of these telegrams. I have, &c. (Signed) LANSDOWNi:. Inclosure 2 in No. 120. Lieutenant-Governor Nekon to the Marquis of Lansdowne. (Telegraphic.) Victoria, British Cohtmhia, March 20, 1888. AIY Government has received information that sealers, on point of depavtnr>> tor Behring's Sea, arc arming their vessels and crews to resist capture. e. BAYARD. 199 Inclosuro S in N^o. 126. 7%e Marquis of Lunsdownv to Lleutvnnnt-Gorenior Nelnon. (Telegraphic.) Ottawa, March 27, 1H88. IN reply to your tcle&;rnm of the 2()tli, puhlic notice should be issued by your Government, cautioning persons Koing on sealing expeditions to refrain from assertion of their rights by force, and from taking on board arms and ammunition in excess of their usual requirements. The whole matter forms the subject of diplomatic negotia- tions now in progress. Any intemperate action in the meanwhile would lie most (Ivtrimental to British Columbian interests, and might lead to serious complications, and be followed by grave consequences. Inclosure 4 in No. 126. Lleuleiiaiit-Uornriior Nelson to the Marquis of Lansdowiiv. (Telegraphic.) Victoria, lirilish Columbia, March I'H, 1MH8. IT is rejjorted that, with a view to protecting their vessels and property from lawless designs of United States' (>overnment, some persons, fitting out here for sealing, are arming their vessels and crews, and unless jjndection is aifcrded by Imperial Government, serious loss of property, and possibly human life, nuiy result. Dominion Government are therefore urged to take such steps for the protection of British interests in Hehring's Sea as may be deemed advisable. No. 127. BRAMSTON. Admiralty to Foreign Office. — {Received April -0.) Sir. Admiralty, April 25, 1888. MY Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty have had under their consideration your letter of the 20th instant, inclosing a copy of a despatch, dated the Itttli instant, which has been addressed by Lord Salisbury to Her Majesty's Ambassador at St. Peters- hiugh and Her Majesty's Minister at Washington in regard to the adoption of measures to check the indiscriminate slaughter of seals in Behring's Sea. 2. My Lords request that you will state to Lord Salisbury that their Lordships full concur in the views set forth in the inclosure to your letter now under -eply. I am, &c. (Signed) EVAN MACGRKGOR. No. 128. VNSDOWNK. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received April 2(i.) Sir, Downing Street, April i'o, 188S. 1 AM directed by Lord Ivnutsford to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 20th instant, transmitting a copy of a despatch addressed to Her Majesty's Ambassador at St. Petersburgh respecting the proposed establishment of a close time for seals in Hehring's Sea.* In reply, 1 am to incldse, for the information of the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of tiie extender of a telegram which was sent to the Governor-General of Canada, on bis Lordship's suggestion, inquiring whether the Dominion Government were aware of any objection to the ])roposed arrangement. I am also to inclose a coi>y of a despatch from Lord Lansdowne, in the two concluding paragraphs of which he points out that the probable effect of the proposed dose time on the operations of the Canadian sealers would be to exclude them com- pletely from the rights which they have until lately enjoyed without question or molestation. In these circumstances, it is probable that the United States' proposals may not be • No. 181. 1 fjf W' ■!'l ! I TOO accepted by Canada without reserve, and Lord Knutst'ord would suggest that, pending the receipt of the observations of the Dominion Government in response to tiie invitation contained in his dcspatcli of the 8th March, referred to by Lord Lansdowne, no final action sliould be taiven in the. matter. I am, «!t.c. (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. Inclosure 1 in No. 128. Lord Knulsford to the Marquis of Lansdowne. My Lord, Downing Street, April 21, 1888. I HAVE tile linnour to atijuaint you that I have this day telegraphed to you, witii reference to your despatch of tlie 9th instant, that negotiations are proceeding between Russia, Uio llnitod States, and Great Britain with regard to the establishment of a close time, diuiiij,' which it would be unlawful to kill seals at sea, in any manner, to the north of the 471I1 parnlici of latitude between the coasts of Russia and America, and intpiirod whether your Government was aware of any objection to the proposed arrangement. I added that, of course, as regards Canadian waters, Canadian legislation woidd be necessary. I have, &c. (Signed) KNUTSFORD. Inclosure 2 in No. 128. The Marquis of Lansdowne to Lord Knulsford. (Extract.) Government House, Ottawa, April 9, 1888. IN reference to my despatch of the 29th March, I liavc the honour to inclose herewith copy of a telegram, dated the 5th instant, from the Attorney-General of British Columbia to Sir John Macdonald, acquainting him that my telegram, of which a copy was sent to you in the above dcspatcli, had been published in the provincial press ns a v.aiiiing to sealing-vessels, and that there was reason to believe that these vessels had, in consequence of the intimation thus given, ceased to arm them- selves for the purpose of resisting the cruizcrs of the United States. I iiave forwarded to you by this mail copies of a telegram received from Sir L. West in refereneo to the probable action of these cruizers during the present season, and of a telegram addressed to him by me in reply. I observe tliat the information obtained by Sir Lionel West from Mr. Bayard, which is the same as that communicated to me in your telegraphic dcspatcli of tiie Gth instant, is merely to the effect that no orders have been i sued by the United States for the capture of British ships fishing in the Behring's Sea. I need scarcely point out that this is not ecjuivalent to an assurance that such vessels will not be molested e.\cept when found within the !?-mile limit, and that we are not informed whether any orders which have been already issued in this connection are or are not still in force. 1 neo'l scarcely jioint out that the close time for seals, referred to in your telegram, is created under a Statute of the United States, which is not obligatory except upon the subjects of that Power. The proposal contained in tne inclosure to your Confidential despatch of tiie Stli March, 1888, for the adoption of a similar close season by British fishermen is at present receiving the careful con.sideration of my Government. Such a close time could obviously not be imposed upon our fishermen without notice or without a fuller discussion than it has yet undergone. You "^re aware that, during the close time enforced by tlie United States' Statute, the seals, although protected from slaughter by the use of firearms, may be killed in great numbers on their breeding-grounds by the persons who enjoy the monopoly of the trade under Conces.sion3 from the United States' Govirnnu'iit The rest of the year these animals are, according to Mr. Bayard's state- ment in iiis despatch of the 7th February, 1888, "supposed to spend in the open sea south of the Aleutian Islan'ls," where t'-ey are probably widely scattered and difficult to find. It would appear to follow that, if concurrent regulations based upon the American Law wore to be adopted I)y Great Britain and the United States, the privileges enjoyed by the citizens of the latter Power would be little if at all curtailed, while British fishermen that, pending the invitation ownc, no final [ERBEIIT. ■H 21, 1888. d to you, with eding between ncnt of a close r, to the north ,, and inciuirod mgement. ition would be UTSFORI). !/))•;/ 9, 1888. lour to inclose torney-General I my telegram, iblished in the ison to believe to arm thcm- ed from Sir L. nt season, and ilr. Bayard, Itch of the Gth ited States for joint out that except wlicn orders which our telegram, except upon ir Confidential son by British nent. Such a ice or without the close time slaughter by rounds by the United States' iayard's state- tho open sea ind difBcult to the American ilcgcs enjoyed tish fishermen 201 would find themselves completely excluded from the rights wliich until lately they have enjoyed without question or molestation. In making this observation I do not desire to intimate that my Government would be averse to entering into a reasonable agreement for protecting the fur-bearing animals of the Pacific coast from extermination, but merely that a one-sided restriction such as that which appeared to be suggested in your telegram could not be suddenly and arbitrarily enforced by my Government upon the fishermen or this country. I hftvc &c (Signed) ' LANSDOWNE. Inclosure 3 in No. 128. Mr. J, Rohson to Sir J. Macdonald. (Telegraphic.) Victoria, April 5, 1888. AS a warning, Lord Lansdowne's telegram to Lieutenant-Governor was published on 29th ultimo, and, I believe, arming has been discontinued, but to avert serious trouble assurance of protection continues [p] essential. No. 129. Colonial Officii to Foreign Office. — Received April 28.) Sir, Downing Street, April 27, 1888. WITH reference to the letter from this Department of the 25tii instant, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a telegram from the Governor-General of Canada, explaining the views of the Dominion Government with regard to the establishment of a close time for seals in Behring's Sea. Lord Knutsford would be glad to know what reply, if any. Lord Salisbury thinks should be sent. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Tnclosure in No. 129. The Marquis of Lansdowne to Lord Knutsford. (Telegraphic.) {Received at the Colonial Office, April 25, 1888, 10*10 P.M.) IF proved to be necessary, Canadian Government will be ready to join other Governments in adopting steps to prevent extermination of fur-seals in Northern Pacific Ocean, but, before final agreement, desires full information and opportunity for con- sidering operation of proposed close time. Establishment of close time at sea only would give virtual monopoly of seal fisheries to Russia and United States ; the latter Power owns the most important breeding places, in which close time would not operate. Rights should be reserved for Canada cf terminating arrangement after sufficient notice, not exceeding two years. No. 130. The Marquin of Salisbury to Sir L. West. -^(Substance telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign Office, April 29, 1888. WITH reference to Lord Lansdowne's despatch of the 21st March,* respecting the Behring's Sea question, a copy 'of which was forwarded to you by his Excellency, I have to request that you will propose to the United States' Government that the limit of time fixed for the prosecution of the appeals in regard to the seizures of British I, !rJ ■ -;;' ;B B-i ■W- [128] * See No, IM. 2 D scaling-vcssels should be extended by consent for such a period as may allow of tlic claims in question being settled by diplomatic negotiation without prejudice to tlic ultimate legal remedy by appeal if such negotiation should not be successful. You should also propose that tlic vessels and skins should be iu the meanwhile at unee released on security. The stipulation made by the American Court tiuit the sureties should be American citizens resident in the States is objected to by some of the Canadian defendants, but this condition appears to mc to be reasonable. I am, &c. (Sigjied) SALISBURY. No. 181. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received April 30.) My Lord, Wash in ij ton, April 19, 1888. UPON tlic receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 17th instant I addressed a note rerbale to Mr. Bayard, copy of which is inclosed, in order to ascertain whether the United States' Government would agree to a Commission to inquire into the claims of British sealing-vcssels seized and warned oil" by the Udited States' autlioritics in Behring's Sea. I haiulcd this note myself to Mr. Bayard, who read it, and remarki'd that from what had passed in the Fisheries Conference lie had been led to believe that these claims would be held over. Ue would, however, answer my communication. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure in No. 131. Note Verbale. HER IMajesty's Government have just received the particulars of the claims for compensation on account of British sealers seized and warned off by the United States' authorities in Behring's Sea. A just assessment of these claims ajjpears to them difficult, without investigation and verification, and they therefore wish to ascertain whether tlie United States' Government would be disposed to agree to a Commission which should be restricted to inquiring in each case whether compensation is due, and the amount of such compensation. Washington, April 18, 1888. No. 132. Board of Trade to Foreiyn Office, — {Received May 5.) Sir, Board of Trade, London, May 4, 1888. I Aj\r directed by the Board of Trade to acknowledge tho receipt of your letter of the 20th ultimo, in which you transmit copy of a despatch addressed by the Marquis of Salisbury to Her Majesty's Ambassador at St. Petersburgh and Her ^Iajesty's Minister at "Washington, recording a conversation which bis Lordship has had with the Russian Ambassador and the United States' Charge d'Affaires at this Court on the subject of adopting measures with a view to check the indiscriminate slaughter of seals in Behring's Sea. With reference to the concluding paragraph of your letter, I am to request that you will state to Lord Salisbury that the Board of Trade have no information to enable them to speak with confidence on the subject, but that, so far as they arc in a position to judge, they would be disposed to regard favourably the proposals indicated by you as a basis for negotiation, and which contemplate restrictions partly in analogy with those already constituting a close time for the seal fishery of the Greenland Sea, where, however, the valuable fur-seals for which the Behring's Sea is noted are not found. At the same time, it may be supposed that the Western British Colonies in North I.!: i-^^r* ^m ALISBURY. LLE WEST. onies in Jfortli 203 Amprica would bo intorcstcd in the matter, and tlioy mipjlit bo prepared to eriticizo tbe proposals in question for rcnsons with ivliich this Department is not acquainted. I liavo, &c. (Si-ned) HENHY G. CALCRAFT. -S/r L. No. 13 West to the Marquis of Salishurj/,— {Received May 14.) My Lord, Washington, April 22, 1888. AVITII reference to my despatch of the 19th instant, 1 have the honour to inclose to jour Lordship hcrc'.vith a copy of a note verhale which I have received in reply to tiic one wliich I addressed to Mr. ]?ayard, copy of which was inclosed in that despatch, statine; tliat, in the cases of Hritish vessels seized in Behrinj^'s Sea, it is preferable to await the judgment of the Appellate Court in the premises. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure in So. 133. Note Verhale. RESPONDING to the note verhale of Sir L. West, dated the 18th instant, it Is suggested, on behalf of the United States, that, as the cases of seizure of British scaling- vessels in Bchring's Sea therein referred to are now in Court pending an appeal from a judicial decision, it is preferable to await the judgment of the Appellate Court in the premises. Washington, April 21, 1888. No. 134. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Safisburtj. — (Received May 14.) My Lord, Washington, May 1, 1888. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the rcceii)t of your Lordship's telegram of the 2()th ultimo, and to inclose to your Lordsliip lierewith a copy of a note which I addressed to the Secretary of State, in the sense conveyed therein, on the subject of the cases of British vessels seized in Behring's Seo, upon which appeals are pending. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure in No. 134. Sir L, West to Mr. Bayard. Sir, Washington, April 30, 1888. WITH reference to pending legsil proceedings in the cases of British vessels seized by the United States' authorities in Behring's Sea, I have the honour to inform you that I am instructed by the Marquis of Salisbury to propose to the United States' Government that the time limited for the prosecution of the appeals in these cases should, by consent, be extended for such a period as may permit of a settlement of the claims in question by diplomatic negotiation, without prejudice to the ultimate legal remedy by appeal, shoidd such negotiation be unsuccessful, and that the vessels and skins should be at once released on security. It is understood, indeed, that permission has actually been given to the owners of these vessels to bond them pending appeal, provided the sureties are citizens of the United States and resident therein, and, under these circumstances, the proposal for an extension of the time limited for such appeal is submitted in view of any diplomatic negotiations which may ensue, having for object the satisfactory adjustment of all matters connected with these cases. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. [1281 2 D 2 i 1 I,) I i I I 'I •:iil } ,1 201. No. 135. Colonial Offict to Foreign Ofiire.— (Ki'ctiie<l Mai/ 14.) Sir, Downing Street, May 12, IHS!^. I AM directed by Lord Kmitstbrd to tranHinit to you a copy of the tclcf^raiu wliich waH addressed to the Goveriior-Gencrnl of Canada upon tlio (|uestion of the jiroposcd close time for seals in Melirinjj's Sea, together with a copy of tlie reply which has now been received from the (Jovernor-Generai, and wliich I am to rcijuest may be liiid before the Alarquis of Salisbury. I nm, &.;. (Signed) KDWAI{D WlNGKIKl^D. Inclosure 1 in No. 185. Lord Knutsford to the Xfarquia of Lansdonme. (TelcKraphic.) Downing Street, May J), 1888. BEHRING'S SEA close time for seals. With reference to your telegram 25th April, would objections of your Government be met if proposal to take 60th degree north latitude be reverted to instead of 47th ? Inclosure 2 in No. i;3o. The Manjiiis of Lanxdoirne to Lord Knutsf'ord. (Telegraphic.) ' Mmj II, 1888. 1 HAVE received your cablegram of the 9th instant. The objections of the Canadian Government would not be removed by the substitution o^ the 60th instead of the 47th parallel. A Report on close time question is in course of preparation. My Government hopes that no decision will bo taken until you are in possession of it. No. 130. Sir L, West to the Marqitin of Salisbury. — {Received June 11.) (Extract.) Washington, May 30, 1888. WITH reference to my despatch of the Ist instant, I have the honour to inform your Lordship that at Mr. Bayard's request I called upon hini, and he then remarked to me, with reference to my note of the 30th April, that he was not aware that there were any vessels or skins held at the present moment. With regard to extending the time limited for appeal, lie said that he had consulted with the Attorney-General, and that he had found that it was not in the power of the Executive to intervene in the matter. Having given me this explanation, he said he would reply to my note in this sense. P.S. — I subjoin copy of the reply to my note of the 30th April, which I have jui^t received. rnclosurc in No. 130. .Vr. liayard to Sir L. West. Sir, Department of State, Washington, May 28, 18S8. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge your notes of the 30th idtinio and the 2oth instant, both relating to the appeals taken in the Judicial Courts in Alaska from decrees in cases of British vessels seized by the United States' Revenue officials in Behring's Sea, imder charges of having violated the laws of the United States regulating the killing of fur-seals, I tnust excuse myself for the delay in making reply to your note of the ^Oth April, which was caused by my desire to obtain from you a verbal explanation of what appeared to me an inadvertent expression contained therein, from which it appeared that the " skippers " were held under arrest as well as the sealing-vessels. In my personal interview with you to-day it became mutually understood that there y 12, IHSSi. Uu> i)ro|H)s('il liicli lias now limy bo liiiil NOKIKLl). aos has licon and is no Rueh personal detention in any of the cases, but the proceedings have nil been in rent against the vcsselH so employed and their outfits. Tho Hup;j|;CBtion of the Marquis of Salisbury that the time limited for prosecution of I In- .'.ppcaJH (entered already or proposed to be entered) in tho cases referred to, in order Id ^i\ e an opj)ortuiiity for a diploinatic settlement [n'r], will meet with favourable considera^ lion within tlio limits of statutory provision in rcUtion to the docketing and prosecution iii'.i|)|ieals. While it is not within the power of the Executive Dranch to alter or extend the stalutory limitation in respect of the time of entering such appeals, yot as far as a;,'! eomcnt of both parties may prevail in jirocurinfj postponements of the arguments and pliNiilings, after the appeal has been duly taken, I apprehend that there will be every ilispiisition on the part of the prosccuti(m to give time for diplomatic arrangement. Accept, &c. (Signed) T. F. BAYARD. frti/ n, 188P. ir Government d of 47th ? wy 11, 188H. 3ctions of the 5()tb instead of iparation. My m of it. ay 30, 1888. nour to inform n remarked to bat there were had consulted the power of lion, he said be til I have ju!>t I/;/ 28, 18S8. Itimo and the li Alaska from luc officials in Itcs regulating Bie 30th April, Lbat appeared lared that the 3od that there No. 137. lutiiict from llunsian Mnmorandum regardinij Hunlintj of Sealx. — {Communicated by M, de Staal lo the Marquis of Salisbury, July 2.'), 1888.) LE8 ondroits ou se pratique la cliasse aux otaries peuvcnt sc diviaer en deux ;;ronpe8 distincts : — Nombre den Utnrius tuccs en 1885. La iircinier groupe oomprendruit— Ill's IlcH I'rihylolfdnna la Mcr (Ic iScliring .. .. I,c8 lies (lu Commnndciir (lc» lies do liclirin); pt dc Ciiivrc) L'llo doR Phoqiies (Mcr Okhotsk) . . Lc deuvieme giounc — La iner pros dcH t'6tc9 dc Victorin . . . . . . Lobas . . . . . . . . Lc8 ill's pri's dti Cnp Horn ct lo Mer I'olairc dii Sud . . Lc Cap dc Brjiine-Espt'rnnco . . . , Lrs IU'9 Japonniscs . , , . . . , . . . 100,000 45,000 4,000 149,000 20,000 15,000 10,000 5,000 7,000 57,000 Dans le premier groupe lc nombre des otaries tuees tons les ans est dc beaucoup plus important que dans le deuxi^mc groupe La chasse s'y pratique sur des bases rationnellcs, c'l'st-a-dirc qu'on n'y tue que Ics otaries qui rdpondent aux exigences du commerce : iriiiie certaine taille et du sexe male ct h I'epoque de I'annec ofi la foiirrure u le plus de valciir commcrcialc. En outre, la chasse s'y regie de fayon que lc nombre des otaries (jui IVi'oucntcnt ces tics, loi^i dc diminuer, augmcntc tons les ans. i^ans le deuxifjme groupe, la chasse a lieu sans aucun syst<iinc ; on y tuo les otaries males ct femellcs dc tout Age sans tcnir comptc des epoques dc rann(5c. Cc mode ilVxterinination et le manque de lois protectrices font craindrc la disparition complete des j otaries de ces parages. Commc pieuvc on cite des endroits appartenant A ce deuxi^mc ;'n)iipc ofi jadis on trouvait dos millions dc ces phocace's et ou maintcnant on en tue ii piinc quclques milliers. La p^riodc qui suivit I'cxpiratioii dc la Concession accordec i\ la Conipagnic Kusso- i^mericaine pour I'exploitation de la cbnsse sur les lies Pribyloff ct du Conmiandeur a 1 1'laiienient d^montr6 tout lc mal qu'unc chasse libre pouirait fiiirc au devcloppement et Ilia nniltiplieation des otaries. Apr^s Texpiiation de cette Concession les iles devinrent la pioiu du premier venu et les chifTrcs qui suivcnt demontrcnt la progression cnorme ipia siibi lc nombre des otaries extermindies pendant ces deux annees :— En 1867, le nombre des otaries tu^es sur les Isles Pribyloff ^tait dc 40,000; en 1 1808, de 242,000; et en 1869, de 87,000. Sur les lies du Commandeur on avait tud Tannic 1867, 4,000 otaries; I'annec 1868, [12,000; Tannic 1869, 21,000; et I'ann^e 1870, 27,000. 'I m I- .-t 20fl Ce n'ost qno IVloipnoment dc ^-os IIph des <v>«tf^<«» l»fl1»lt^M ct 1« nombro tninimc <lc la pojHiIiition locnlc (|iii ii ('ini)<^clu'' In (Ioh( ruction oompiiMo do cos jjliocftccs. I'our iiiotfic fin h com alms, lo (louvcinemont. don I'ltnts-Unisd'AiiK^riquc ooncdda en 1870 i\ la Conipa-iiiic' de roiinnoicc d'Aliaska Ic droit d'uxiiloiter la chassc dos otnrics Btir leM llos Pril)ylo(f |)oiidaiit viiint aiis. liR memo Com|mn;iiic. main sons im autre nom. oldint une autorisation analopuo dii Gouvoriionicnl l{ussc iidiir la <-linsso dcs otarics stir los Islrs du Coiiiniaiulcur et don PlioqucH, pour la inciuc jn'riodo di? viuiit ans. a pnrtir du If* Fcvrior, 1871. Aiimi, noui* voyons i|u'uii mouopolc privij a ctii concede wur Ioh iloH frdquentccs par Ics otarios troix ans a poino apros I'oxpiration do colui do la Compaj^nio Uusso. Am^ricaino, Co monopolo a 6t6 roconnu ncccssairo pour Ics deux Oouvcmcmonts a la suite dcs conclusions dos Comnii^sions Husso ot Anu'ricaino, institudos dans lo but d'ctudior In question do la clinssoaux otarios ot lo moyon do prosorvor cos animaux d'uno destruction compltito. D'aprJis lo Contrat par lo Gouvorncinent Russc, lo noml)rc dcs otarios quo la Com. pagnic a Ic droit dc tuov est ro;;li' chiHiue annoc par Ics autoritcs Russcs locales. Li chasso no pcut ctrc pratitjuo (pic par Ics indiuconos, cxcopto snr I'llc dcs Phoquos, oil la Compagnio pcut oniployor sos propros obasscuis, I'ilc ii"otant pas liabitce. En (5cban;ic do cliaquc poau la Coinpagnic doit iinycr aux indigenes un certain prix prevu par le Contrat. rjcpocpie de la eliasse est strictomcnt limitee. Ce (|ui I'ait le ])lus do tort an doveloppomcnt du nonibrc des otarics c'cst la cbnsse illicitc qui sc pratique tant en ploinc nier (pio sur Ics lies .laponaises el (pielquotbis siir rile des Pboques aprcs Ic dejiart du Itfitimont do la Coinp;ij;;nie, ce qui arrive generalc- mcnt vers la mi-Octobro. D'apres Ics Rapports des Douancs .Taponaises il a 6te import^^ au Japon, pendant I'anncc 1.SS4, ;5,tfl() peaux d'otarios resultant de ce genre dc braconnage ; ce qui fcrnit 50 pour cent sur toutes Ics fourrures d'olarics cxportcos du Japon. Juscpi'a 1862 il n'existait pas dans cc pays de loi probibant la cbasse dcs otarics, En 1SG2 une Loi defendant cette cliassc a etc promulguce sans etlet, Ics lies n'ctant pns suffisammcnt gard^cs contre I'invasion dcs braconnicrs. En automne Ics otarios quittent la terro forme et se dirigcnt au sud des lies Alooutcs, ou cllcs sejourneiit le roste dc lannd-e on ploine nier. Cost alors ([u'ellcs soiit exposces aux attatjucs des iiavircs armes on clinssc (jui Ics d^ tniiscnt par tons les nioycns: arines a feu, filets, barpons, &c., sans distinction cntic los nirdos ct les femellos pleine.s. 11 n'y a qu'un tiers seulement dcs animaux lues de la sortc ([iii est utilise, lo rcste sc pcrd sans le moindre profit. C'cst a ce genre de procede qu'on attribuo la disparitiou ;\ pen prt^s compl(ite dcs otarics sur les c6tC3 du Cbili ct dc I'Afriquc iMc'ridiouale, ainsi que sur les lies dc Falkland. On a pcur que lo memo sort ne soit reserve aux ilcs de la Mer de llebring, h moins que dcs mcsures cfficaccs ne soicnt adoptd-cs a bref delai pour piotegcr les otarics. (Translation.) THE places wberc fur-seal hunting takes place can be divided into two distinct groups : — Number of Fur-Seals killed in 1885. The first Kiou]) wimid include — The I'ribvlnfl' li-liiiids ill l!elii'in;,''s Sen .. ,. Tlic ('onniiiiiulcr Islands (lieliiiu:; and Coppir Islands) ,. Tlie Seal I^<lands (Sea of Okhotsk) .. 100,000 •15,000 •1.000 149,000 Tlie second fjioup — The sea adjoining; llie coasts of Vidoiiiv .. .. Lobas ,. .. .. .. ,. ., The islands near Cape Horn and the South Polar Sen . . Tlie Cape of Good Hope . . . , Tliu Jnpiineiie Islands 20,000 15,000 10,000 5,000 7,000 , , 57,000 207 In the first group the number ot' fur-seals killed nnnuully is much larger tliun in ihe second grouj). Hunting is conducted on rational bases, i.e., that only such tiu-seuU arc killed as arc usclul for coniiniiciiil puiposes, siais of a certain size, of the nude sex, and at a time of vcur wlien the fur has the most commcrciid value, in iuldilicn, the hunting is regulated in such a way that the number of lui-i^eals which fre(|uent the island^;, far from diminishing, increases every year. In the second group hunting is carried on under no syxtem. Male and female fur-seals of every age are killed, without regard to the season of the year. In conse(iueucc of this destructive method, ant. tin; absence of i)roteetive laws, the complete disap|)eurance of the fur-seids from these shores is to be apprehended. As a proof, it is st'\ted that millions of fur-seals were found formerly in places in tiie second group where but a few thousands are killed now. The period which followed tlu- expiration of the Concession accorded to the Russo- Anierican Company for hunting on the Pribylotf and Conniiander Islands clearly showed the injurious ctlect of unrestricted hunting on the development and multi|)lication of fur-scttls. Alter the expiration of this Concession the islands became a prey to the first comer, and the following figures show the enormous increase in the number of fur-seals exterminated during these two years: — In 18ti7 the number of fur-seals killed on the IVibylolf Islands was 40,000 ; in 1868, 242,000; and in 1 8()9, 87,000. On the Connnander Islands 4,000 fur-seals were killed in 1807; 12,000 in 1868; lM.OOO in 18(i!) ; and 27,000 in 187U. Tlu complete extermination of the seal species was only prevented by the distance of these islands from inhabited countries, and the limited numbers of the local population. To put an end to thes( abuses the United States' Government conceded, in 1870, to the Connnercial Con>|;any of Alaska the right to fur-seal hunting on the Pri!)yloff' Islands for twenty years. The same Company, under a dillerent name, obtained a similar authorization from the Russian Government to hunt fur-seals on the Commander and Seal Islands for the same perod of twenty years fiom the 18th February, 1871. It is thus seen that a private monopoly was conceded on the islands frequented by the fur-seals hardly three years after the expiration of that of the Russo-An.eriLim Company. This monopoly was recognized to be necessary by the two Governments in consequence of the conclusions of the Russian and American Commissions which were api)ointcd lor the purjiose of examining the question of fur-seal hunting and the means of ])reserving these aninmls from complete destruction. According to the terms of the Russian Contract, the number of seals which the Company has the right of killing is regulated every year by the local Russian authorities. Hunting can only be carried on by tlie inhabitants, except on Seal Island, where the Company can employ its own hunters, the island being uninhabited. In exchange for each skin the Company must pay the natives a certain price as provided for in the Contract. The season of hunting is strictly limited. What most hinders the increase of the fur-seals is the illicit hunting which takes place in the open sea, as well as on the Japanese Islands and sometimes on Seal Island alter the departure of the Coni])any's ship, which takes place generally about the middle of October. According to the Japanese Customs Reports, 3,400 fur-seal skins, whicli represent the produce of this kind of poaching, were imported into Japan in 1884, which, amounts to 50 per cent, of all the seal-furs exported from Japan. Till 1862 there was no law in this country prohibiting fur-seal hunting. In 1862 a Lav.' was passed forbidding it, but without efl'ect, as the islands were not sufficiently defended against the inroads of poachers. In the autumn tiic fur-seals leave tiie land and make for the south of the Aleutian Islands, where tliey stay for the rest of the year in tlie open sea. It is then that they are exposed to the attacks of ships equipped for the hunt which destroy them by every means, fire-arms, nets, harpoons, &c., without distinguishing males from females with young. Only a third of the animals killed in this way are utdized ; the rest are lost without any profit. It is to these proceedings that the almost complete disappearance of fur-seals from the coasts of Chile and South Africa, as well as from the Falkland Islands, is to be attributed. It is to be feared that the same fate is reserved for the islands of the Behring's Sea unless efficacious measures are shortly adopted to protect the fur-seals. I s i..J i';- ; ■; I 'I \ 208 • . • ■ No. 138. • ■ ; • Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received Juhj 2(i.) Sir, Downing Street, July 2'>, IBS". WITH rof'cronco to provions corroHpondonco rospoctinjf the Hi'izuro of IJiitisli soaling-voHHi'lH in llio ndiriiiK's Son, [ tun iliifctod by fionl Knulsfonl to tranHniii lo yo>;, to Iti' IiiitI l)oforo the Mnnpiis of Salinliury, a copy of a despatch from tho (lovLMiior- Gonoral of Canada, witli its iiu'losurcs, rolatinji^ to tl>c circnniHtancos in whicli tlio Hchoonur " W. P. Sayward " was relensud niidor bond at Sitka. T am, Slp, (Hif^nod) JOHN BllAMSTON, p^ Indosure I in No. 138. Lord Ulan lei/ of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Cascapedia River, New Richmond, June 25, ISS.''. WITH rofcronci* to previous corrcspondenco upon the subject, I have tlie honour to transmit to your Tjordship a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council of Oanadu submitting a copy of a letter from the attorney of Captain .J. D. Warren with rcfereuci: to the circumstances under which the seized seaiing-schooner "W. P. Sayward " was release*! under bond at Sitka. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PltKSTON. Inclosurc 2 in No. 1S8. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privi/ Council, approved by his Eccccllency the Gorernor-Geneidl in Council on the '2\st June, 1888. ON a Memorandum dated the J)th .June, 1888, from the Minister of Marine aiul Fisheries, submitting the accompanying letter from the attorney of Mr. J. D. Warren with reference to the circumstances under which the seiacd sealing-schooncr " W. P. Sayward " was released under bond at Sitka, and recommending that the same he forwarded to the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies for the information of Her Majesty's Oovernment. The Committee advise that your Excellency be moved to forward a copy hereof to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies. All which is respectfully submitted. (Signed) JOHN .F. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Counril. Inclosurc 3 in No. 138. Mr. Belyea to Mr. Tilton. Dear Sir, Ottawa, Ontario, May 23, 1888. I AM in receipt of a letter from Captain J. D. Warren, of Victoria, Ikitish Columbia, under date the 16th instant, in which he informs me of the circumstances under which the seized seaiing-schooner " W. P. Sayward " was released under bond. He had gone to Sitka to secure, if possible, the release of all the schooners seized in 1887, viz.: the " Grace," "Dolphin," "Anna Beck," "W. P. Sayward," and ^'Ada." The bond on release was conditioned on prosecuting an appeal from the Alaska JJistrict Court to the Supreme Court of the United States. The formal motion thus became one " for leave to perfect an appeal," and such motion for each of the vessels was made on the 14th April last before Judge Danson at Sitka, and in every case refused, on ilie grounds that the time for allowing an appeal had expired. Captain Warren's counsel then applied for a record of the oraar refusing leave to appeal. This wus on Saturday. On Monday following, the 16th April, without any application thr.efor by the defevidant or any one on his behalf. Judge Dawson offered to rescind the order of Saturday in the case of the " W. P. Sayward," and release her to her owners. She was i/.V 2'N IPS". un) of IJiitisli to tranHinii In till' (lovornor- in which tlie IIAMSTON. ifi<'2o, IHS.''. B the honmir to incil of OMiiiiilii with rcfenMico Sayward" was PUKSTON. s Excellcncij llie of Marine niul . J. D. AVai 1011 hooncr " \V. P. ,t the same be >r Illation of 11 or copy hereof Id |GBE, 'i-ivy Counrll. [ny 23, 18SS. pctoria, Ikitisli circumstances Id under bond, loners seized in I" and ^ Ada." Llaska Uislrict lus became one Is was made on refused, on ibe irrea's counse! Ion Saturday. \( .efor by the the order ol lers. She was '2m tiicn lyint', al I'lificCM Snuiid. under an orilcr for hiiIc on (but day, llie olfer was )u:CC|)le(i (rontrnry, as Caplain Warren siiys, to (be cxpei'lMtioiw of iIn> liiii("d Stiites' .•lutliorilie^ at Hitka), and (lu- order of tlie iireviotis Saturday reseiiuled and lei?ve granted to appeal. [ am not informed as lo Ibe anioinif of the Imnd. The I'nited HtatcH* Mnisbnl nt Sjlkii has been onU^'ed U> liiKc rennii;<in)>; s(rbooner», viz., the "(iraee," " Dolpliin." 'Anna Reek." and "Ada," In l'ii:;''t'H Homid for imme- diate sab'. 'I'he heliooiKTH "Thornlon," "Onward," and "Carolena," sci/.ed in |SH(J and left 111 Otmahiska, have been, as y(Mi are aware, offered lo liic owners as they now are. All tlire(; am binb up on the beaeh and practienlly worlbless. 'I'be United StatcH' autboritioH sold everything in and on iliCKe vessels that woe.ld brin^ a dollar, and then attempted to ceniract the lakinp; of the indlH to Han Kraneiscio (o be there sold. I''iiulin;r tliis would cost mor(i than the damaj;(!d bulls would sell for, Ihey offered t«) jiive the vesstds up fo their owners, ami bad an order to that effeet issimd. Captain Warren says if is out ol' the (piestion to <ro to Onnalaska for these vessels. I may add that the "Savward " is now in poHsession of her owners. Very faithfidly, &e. (Signed) A. Fi. HKIiYKA, At'nnirn/ for ./. D. fVarren. No. 139, 3fr. Phelps In thr Marquis of Snlishnry. — {Received July 30.) My Lord, Lryalion of the United, Slates, London, July 28, IS8H. I Bl'iCi to reeall your Lordship's attention to th(! subjcMd, of the fjroposed Convention between the (lovernrnents u\ fbe llnited Hlates, 'ireat Mritain, and Jtii.ssia for the, pro- teotion of the sojil llsbories in {{(dn-inj^'s Heu. .V eonsidcrablo fime has nr)w (dapsed wnee the, last cionvorsation I bad the honour to hav(! with your Lordsbij) in ret^anl to it, when it was mutually belicncjd that an (!arly aj^reenient niif^bt bo arrivcid at. 1 am sur<' your J/)rdship will eoncur with me in coneeivitif^ it to l)0 for tlio Interest of all parties that a e;)nclnsion should Ik; reaelmd as soon as possible;. .And my Govermnent insfru(;t8 mo rcs|)ectfully to urijc! upon llcr Majesty's Oovormnent tho pn)pri(!ty, under existint; eircuuistances, of imnuidiate action. [ Vinderstand t!in Russian (iov(n'nnu!nt to be pn;i)arod to concur in tlie jjroposfid C'Dnvention as soon as the other (iovernnuuits eoucernod aii! ready to assent Ui it. I have, &c. (Signed) L. J. PJIEIJ'S. N'y. no. Colonial O/firr lo Forelyn Offin'. — [Received Aw/usl 1.) Sir, Downing SirccI, Auynsl 1, 18H8. I A..i directed by Lord Knulsi'onl to tnuismit to you, lo be laid before tbi; .Marcpiis of Salisbury, ;i tideijji'ain rer-cnvod from Ibe (lovernor-'iCMicr.-il of Canada n'speetin,^ the proposed sale by llio 1,'niled SIrites' autborilics of tli(! sealiiii;-V(wsesl ".\nna 15e(d\," Dolphin," " (iraee," and " Ada," s(MZ(!d last year in Hehrinir's Sea. Lord Sali.sbnry will observe; that tlu; CJovernment of ('anadii \\y'j:,v that the I'nited Stales' (iovernment may l)e reciucsted by Her Majesty's Clovernnient to ])oslpone the sale of the condemned vess(ds pendini; l!ie settlement of tl'.e r^iestiou as to the legality I nf their seizure. Lord Knuttiford trusts that Lord Salisbury will, ;is. soon as practicable, make sueb I mmmunicatiem as maybe proper to tlio 1 nitcd States' Government with a view to I give elTect to the wishes of the l)ominion Governm(Mit. It will be scon that the matter is urgent. " ■ I am, &e. (Sigiu)d) JOHN UIJAMSTON. [128] 2 K 210 ,' ' Inclosure in No. 140. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Kautsfnrd. (Telegrapliic.) " " " ./u/y :?(), IS'iS. THE sealinp^-schoonors "AimaBcck," "Dolphin," "Grace," and "Ada," wliidi were seized in 1887 in the Behring's Sea, are now being removed to PortTownsend, T'uoot Sound, fi'oni Sitka, in order to be sold by the United States' Marshal of jVlaska. 'j'lip Judge of the District Court of Alaska has declined to permit the owners to bond llie vessels, giving as a reason that their ajjplication is too late. My JUuistcrs lecomnu'iul that the Imperial Government lie moved to ask for the interposition of the Tjuitcd States' Government for a posti)oncincnt of the sale of the condemned vessels pending' the settlement of the question concerning the legality of their seizure. J^ray oljtaiu this if possible. Ou account ol" time the question is urgent. No. 141. The Marqiiin of Salishuri/ to Sir L. West. — (Siihstaitce teleyrajilied.) Sir, Foreiiju Office, August 2, 1S8S. THE Governor-General of Canada has informed the Secretary of State for flu; Colonies, by telegraph, that the sealing-vessels " Anna lieck," " Dolphin," " Grace,"' and "Ada," which were seized last year in Behring's Sea by the United ''int's' authorities, are now being taken to PortTownsend for sale by the United .^' r-' Marshal o I" Alaska, and that the Judge of the Alaska District Court has ; • allow the owners to bond their vessels, giving as his reason that the appln . :i>. . permission to do so was made too late, I have to request you to ask the United States' Government t.) postpone i\w sjile of these vessels until the question as to the legality of their seizure has be(>n settled. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBUIU. No. 142. The Mni<iuis of Sallstiury to Mr. Phelps. Sir, Foreign Office, August 2, 18^8. I HAVI] the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letttu* of the 28tli ultimo. calling attention to the question of the proposed Convention betwecm this eoiiutry, the United States, and llu 'a for the ])rotection of the seal tisheries in Uehriug's Sea, and 1 beg leave to say tliat I hope sliortly to be able to addi'ess to you a i'urtliei' eommunication on the sulyect. I iiav<', &j. (Signed) SALISBl'RV. No. ] t3. Foreiiju Office to Coloni'tl Office. Sir, Foreiijn Office, August 2, 18S8 REFERRING to your letter ot the 15th June last, inclosing copies of a telegraphic correspondence with the (Jovernor-General of Canada in regard to tin' question of the propos(\d International Convention fc- the protection of the fur-bearing' seals in Beliring's Sea, I am directed by the Marquis of Salisbmy 'o transmit hereAvilli a copy of a h'tler li'om .Mr. Phelps,* in which, by direction of nis GovernmeiU, Ik urges tlie pro)mety of reni'hiug a conclusion on the .subject. I am to request that, in laying tliis l(>tter before Secretary l-^ Knutslord, you will move him to give as early a consideration as possibu to Mr. Piielps communication. I am, &c. (Signed) JTLiAN lAUNCEFOTE, • No. 13S. m (Telegraph rsE^ ol ilie vosse -"'^"••••'^•"™''^ 211 Xo. 141. ^0, IS-^s. .da," wliicli send, \'i\<n'\, aska. 'i'lio to bond tlu! rcconuiu'iid tlio TJuitwl els ^jciuliii;; J'rav obt.iiu ) xt 2, 1S8S. tatc for tlu; ," " Gvacc," nitcd :'lat's nitod S' ■•(•■^' IS ;■ •'"■ ■■ plu.ooi.. .v.. )onc tho sale }(Mi settled. list 2, 18H8. 2Stli viltiniQ. this country, in Bohi'iug's yoii a further jISBURV. list 2,_18SS copies of ii I ivfijard In till' lie fnr-beariiiu' | Ismit herowil ^vernment, In' Knuisrm'il. 3,lr. rheliis NCEFOTK. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, August 3, 1 8S8. [ LAID bofore tlie Manjuis of Salisl)iuy your letter of the 1st instant, inclosinj^ a t(;fe^ram from the Governor-General of Canada reportini,' the intentiou of the United Stah's' authorities to sell the sealin<^-vessels "Anna Beek," "Dolphin," " Grace," and " Ada," seized last year in Behriniij's Sea. ,1 am directed by his Lordship to state that, in accordance with Lord Knutsford's d('sin>. Iler Majesty's ^Minister at Washington was instructed by telet^rapli on the 2iid instant to ask the United States* Government to postpone the sale of these vessels pendinj;: a settlement of the question as to the Icf'ality of the seiziu'c. T am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN BAUNCEEOTE.' ;. IS 0.115. Colonial Office to Fc^eign Office. — {Received August 10.) Sir, Downing Street, August 10, 1888. IN rejily to your hotter of the 2nd instant, forwarding a note from tho American Minister at this Court urging the early consideration of the (jucstion of establishing a close time iov seals in Behring's Sea, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, for the inforr'.iation of the Marquis of Salisbury, copy of telegraphic corre- spondence Avith thij Governor- General of Canada on the subject. The Report referred to in the telegram froni Lord Stanley of Preston will ))robably be received on the 14tli instant, and Avill b(> cominunicated to you Avithout delay. I am, &c. (Signed) R H. MEADE. Inclosurc 1 in No. 1 15. Lord Knulsford to Lord Stanley of Preston. (Toloiri-nphic.) _ Downing Street, August 8, 1888. I NJTED STATES' Goveminent pressing for early reply question of lose time J3c' . •)i'.if Sea. When may Report be expected from your ^linisters? Im losure 2 in No. lla. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knul-^ford. (Telegraphic.) August 0, 1888. [ SENT last .Monday Report asked foi iu your Lords'iip's telegram 8th August. No. 146. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received August 10.) ' ''■' Downing Street, August 10, 1888. VFITII reference to your letter of the Hrd instant, I am directed by Lord Knutsford - tM ': ♦^3 you, for the information of the Jlarquis of Salisbury, copies of further ;^' ai)iiic correspondence with the Governor-General of Canada respecting the sale of the vessels seized in Behring's Sea last year, and now lying ivt Port Townsend, I am, &c. (Signed) .JOHN BllAMSTON. [128] 2 E 2 r I •'^itti TW- ' ' : I «" k, I i.l ^ i\ "^H I ; 912 liu'losurc 1 in \o. 1 Kl. I.niil Staiilri) of I'ri'sloii to Lord Kinilsford. I.oril Sldnlri/ of I'ri'sloii to Lord hiiiilsjord. ('I\>li'f;;-aitliic.) " Ainiii.H i. IHHS VV rVll rdVinu'c lo my (flc^riim of llic lUUli .Inly, I lun inrnrnicil l)y Mic Miiiislcr of Fishtnifs Mm! Ili(< scliuoncrs " l)(>l|tliin." " (iracc," " Adii," niul "Annii Hih'K " will l>« sold a) I'orl 'rowiiscnd. in \Vasliinu:(i»n 'i'lM-rilory, on (lie 'i'Jnd An^nsl. Inn)i('dial(> inliTvonlioii ol" lltinif (iitvcrnnicMl, as prcvionsly asked I'di', is ('arncslly r('qu(>s|i<d. TncloNun^ 2 in No. I Ml. I.nrd Kniilsford to Lord Sltiiih'ii of l'ri'sl"ii. Downiiiij SIri'cl, Aiii/iisl 7. JHSs. I .1 ...'_ J : 1 ' .».. I 4 1 (IVlciri'nplii*',) Downiiuj SIrrrI, Ain/iisl 7. JHSs. I II AN'i; nvcivod yonr li>loi;r,'\ni of Mil Anijjnsl. Inslrnclions sciil. 2nd An'j;Msl |i 11(>r Majcsly's Minislcr at \>'asliini;l(in (o ask Unitcil Sla(\'s' (ioM'rnnxMil lli.'it pondinsj; s(>(t lenient of (|nes(i()n ol' lei;alily of seizure, sali' of vcsncIs inif^lil lie |ms( iioiumI. No. U7. (\>h>itiiil Ofllcr to I'hrrlijii Oflirr. — {/'rrrir.'il Aiujusl IS.) Sir, Doii'u'mij Stvrrt, Amjiisl 18, IHHH. WITH refenMK-e (o Hie letter fnnii tliis l)e]i!ninieiil()r tli(> lOtli iiislani, I iiiii direeled by l.urd Kniilsford to transmit to yon, to lie laid li(>fore the Manpiis nl' Salislniry. ;\ eojiy of a desiiateli from tlie (ioviM'iior-tieiiiM'al of (';iii;i(la, forwarding ii Minnie of liis I'rivy (.'oniieil on tlie snlij(>et. of the projiosal of the United Slalcs' (iovernmenl \'ov the ivstaldisliment of .a el<>se time for seals in Heliriiif^'s Sea. In view of the e\i)lanalioiis of the Dominion (iovernment, wliieli slate \vr\ ele.arly the slronir ohji'i'lions (o liie iirop.ised I'lose season, it a|ipears to Lord Knntsford tliiit it will he iieeessary fm* the I'nited Slates' (io\ermiient. lo make some niodilicii proposal if the r.eu'otialions are to li;>.ve any nsel'iil result. I am, I'^c. 'Si-ned) .lOlIN IM! AlSrSTON. Tnolosuro I in No. M7. Lord !<t(nilcii of l^rrslon lo f.ard l\iiutsl'nrd. ?ily l.m-d, (Vl'idcl, Qiirhrr, Amjiisl .'J, ISM,s. WITH r.'lerenee lo your liordship's despaleli of the Slli Alareli l.ist, Inns- mittiiii!; a e.ipy ol a letter from llii> l'\)reii;ii Olliee, with a nolo from the Ainericnii Minist(-r in l.ouilon, suhmiliiiii^ a proposal for re^'iilaliiii;; the seal lishinu; in Uehriiiij's S(>a. 1 lia\e the lioiionr lo forward lieriM\illi a copy of fin jipproM'd Minnie of the I'livy Coiineii eiuunrrinij: in a Uejiorl of my Minister of Marine iind i'lsherios protesting' against this pvi>posal. I have, i^e. (Signed) STANLEY OK PIJKSTON. Inolosino '2 in No. 147. lirport of II Coiinnilirr of lliv Honnitrdhlf Prlri/ Council for Ciinadd, npproned hi) hit E.iT^lloirii flic (iorrriior-Gnirnil In Council on the IMli July, 1888. Tlir. CumniiUee of the I'rivy (.'oinieil have had under consideration a despMtch. datwl the 8th Man-li, 1888. from the lliglit Honourable the Secretary of Suite for (be Colonies, transmitting a cojiy of a letter from Ww l'\)roigii Ollice, with n note from the United States' Minister in London, submitting a proposal from 218 I'lir, is cariu'slly Mr. Sccirlnry Hiiynnl for llii' csUiljlisliiiiciil mI' n cIohc! hcmsdii \'itv llic mcm! (isliiii;.; in atul iic.'ir Hclii'iiif^'s Scii, ((» cxlcnil from tlici ITitli April lo the Is) NitviMiilicr ol' (vicli ycnr, and (o !'<' "in'nitivc in Ilii" wdtcrs \y'\\\>j; iMirlli nl' liitiliKlf TiO" riorlli nnil liclwcm Imi'^i- tiid'" KiO" \v«'hI. !iii(l 170 ciisl, rnmi ( Jrccnwicli, in wliirli (IcMpiilcli Lord Kimlsrini! i\Hkn to hr I'livoiircil willi siny Dliscrviiti'ni'i wliicli llic ('.•iicdiiiii (iovcrmin'iil iiimv liiivc In olTor on (In* siihjccl. Tin" Minister ol' Maiiiic jind r'islicrics, to wlinm (lie siiid d('s|i!il''li .'ind inclosnrcH wcrr ri'lVircd, s.nl)niils 11 I'i'iiort tlicrron, (liili-d t!ii' 7lli .Inly, IHMS, piiilistinu; n'j.'iinsi Mr. Hdyiirii's |iro|M)snI us ;ni nnjn^l .'ind nnin'cc-^jiry inlcrlcnMici- willi, oi' rjillicr pr'o- hiliilion ol', rights so iMii^cnjoycd to it Ijiul'id :in(l ri'niiuicntivi' ocrii|i.ilioii ii|iori llif hiuli :c.'is. 'I'lic ("oinniitli I- (■ incur in (lii> said l>('|iorl, and advise tlial a <'i,|iy lliireoi', and ol' this Minute, il' a|i|»r;)Vi'd, lie Iransniilled liy your I'lVeelleney fd tlie Itii^lil, llonounildo the Seeret'irv oi'St'ile I'or tlie Colonies. (Signed; .lOIIN .1. McCiMK. C/fT/f, I'riri/ Cimnril, Canada. I indosure .'! in Ts'o, 1 17. M'nuilf. MUAlSrsTON. Ddjuirlmviil of Mori lid find I'i.iliriiry, ('(inndii, Oiliiirii, .full/ 7, IS'^M. 'rilM I'ndeisj^iied lias llie liononr l,o snluiiit, I'or tii<' eonsideraf ion of the (iovernoi'-< leneral in ( 'ouiieil, llie rollowini^ oliservatioiis in reply to a (leHjiat.fdi i'roin liord Kmitsrord lo Ijoid l/inxiiovviie, duted (lie Stii .Mandi, ISHh, {ind iiiidosiii',' a jiro- |msal I'rom Mr. Secretary Hayard For t,he cslaldislinienl. ol' a (dose sensori i'ortlii! sual iisliiuii,' in and near licliiini^'s Sea, lo e\l,eiid I'roni flie l.'it'i April lo tlie js.t, Novernlier (if eaidi sear, and lo lie operative in tlie waters lyin;^ north ol' lalilnde. !'>U" iku'Ui and helweeii loii!i;ilude KiO" west and loiiu;ilnde I7<t"east From (Jreenuieli. lt(>i'ore iMiierinL; upon Mk^ discussion ol' this proposition, the Miiiisler deslre.s lo call atlientioii to a. si'iilciiee in u letter Troni Lord Salisliiiry to Sir L. S. VVi'sl,, daUrd the 2'Jnd I'Vltruary, |sss, intd I'orniing a [lart. ol' llie ahosc-inentioiied despaixdi, in which Lord Salisliury says: — "'The I'niled Sl;ite^.' M inisi.er called lo-d;iy al the l''oreinii OHiee iiiid spol^e fo me :dioul the t|ueslioii of till- fur seals in liehrini^'s Sea. Me said Ihal the, dini(Mill,ieH in ii'Hard lo tlio seal llsheries in l,h;il. se;i were mainly connected with the ([iiestion ol' Uio I'iiise tinic, and thai no attempt had lieen made. Iiy tin; authoriliei of the Lnit.ed St'ikiK to stop till! lisliiiii; lliere ol' any vcssids nt the lime when il, was IcHtiinatc." This <dearly implies that. Lord Salisliury lia<l heen led liy the. L'liiled HIat.cs' Minister to lielievt! that ther<; is a ti.xcd close and open season for the killiiitf fil' seals in Jiehrini^'s Sea whicdi is common to all vessels ol' all ii.atioiialities, and that diirint^ tlifi (i|)en season llicsc may legitimal,(dy and wiliionl; molestation pursiK! IIk; husiness of cittcdiinfj; seals. The facts of the cas(! appear I o lie t.lial. within the limits of tlie Territory of Alaska, Avlii(di liy the I'liited Stales' contention iindndes tin; waters of l!(diriii'4's Sr;;!, as far westward as a line draw n from a point in |{(diriiii;"s Straits south-west to the meridian of !on,!.'itu(i(> 17!! west, tin; killin;.;' of fiir-heariri!,' animals, amoni,'st whir;!) the nai] is iiU'iiided, is pi'ohihited iiy law; that repeated warnings to this ctl't.'ct liav<; l)(;en ^iv(;n by tin; United States' authorities, and that vi'ssids hotli of Canada ami the United Slates liav(; within the past two years lieeii seized and eondcnined for killiiiL^ seals within these; waters. It also appears that in tin; Islands of St. (Jeori^e and Sf. I'aul, (liiriiiif tho months of .luiie, , Inly, Septcnilmr, and ()(;tol)(;r of (;a(di year, the United Stales' (iovcrninent allows the slaughter of seals to the nunibor of 100,000 by certain citizens of that country known as tho Alaska Commercial (,'ompany, for whieli rnonopolv llic United States' (Joveniment is paid a yearly rovenu'; of more than 300,000 (lollars, .\t no season of tlio year, and to no other persons whatever, is it permitted to kill a siiii^lc seal within what is claimc.'d as the limits of the Territory of Alaska. It is ovideiit, thend'ore, that thert; is no jjart of the year \\\wn citi/ons of any country, ■with the sole exc(>ption of the Alaska Connnercial Company, can le^itimatcdy kill seals within tho limits named; and Mdien Mr. Thelps st.'ited to Lord Sali?l)ury that "no tittctnpt had been made by the authorities of the United States to stop the lishiug there ■u]i\ 1^ i ,1 ' , 1 i i i ^lll ;■ 5 I i P ii ' I J I 2U of any vessels at the time when it was legitimate," his statement should be read in conjunetion witli tlie fact that there is no period of the year when it is legitimato for any v(!sscls to lish for seals in the waters of Alaska. Tlie pro|)osal to fix a close time is based by Mr. Bayard upon the alloi^od necessity of immediate measures tu prevent the destniction of the seril fishery in B(diriiiu;'s Sea and the North Pacific Ocean. It is not clear from any information at j)resent possessed that any ])ressinL!; and absolute necessity exists for any such measures, so far as shown by tiie present condition of that fishery in the North Pacific. Prom a I'eport made by the Special United Slates' Treasury Ai^'cnt in Alaska,* dated the .'ilst -luly, 1SS7, it appears : — 1. Tliat none but younj; male seals are allowed to be killed on the Pribyliilf Islands, and of these only 100,000 annually. 2. Tlint a careful measurement of the breeding rookeries on S(.' Paul and St. George Islands showed (5,357, 7iJ0 seals, exclusive of young males. 3. That 90 jjer cent, of tlu; pups bred by these go into the water, leaving a mortality of but 10 per cent, at the place of breeding. 1. Tliat fully one-half of the above 1)0 per cent, of pups retunuMl tlu; folio win;; year as yc^arlings to th(> rookeries, leaving thus a total mortality of l'> ]>er cent. IVoin various causes at sea. It needs but a slight consideration of these figures to demonstrate tiiat an addition of millions each year must be made to the surviving seal life in the North Paei.'\' Ocean. Tiu> Agent in his Heport says: "Tliis vast number of animals, so valuabh^ to tlic Government, ai'c still on tiie increase. The condition of all the rookeries could not lio better." Against ilu; enormous yearly increase of seal life may be placed the average aimiial siaugliter as given in the ilcmorandum attached to Mr. l?ayard's letter, viz., 192,157 for the whole world, or for the seals near to Bchring's sea as follows : — Prihyloir Mimils Comniniider Isliinds iiiul Itobbiii Koef .Iii]i:in Islands Nnrtli-wi'st ciiast of America Or n total of . . 91,967 •11,803 •toed ;2(),'jOO lOi.SOO With an annual c' ar increase of millions, and an annual slaughter of less than 200,000 ill the Nortii Pacific Ocean, it surely cannot be contend(>d that there is any ncc(>ssity for siudi stringent and exclusive measures as the one ju-oposed in order to pres(>rve tiie seal fishery from threatened dcstructiou. Not only would it appear that tiic present rate of catch could be permitted, and a continual increase of the total number of seals be assured, but it Avould seem that this annual take might be many times multi])lied without serious fears of exhaustion so long as the present conditions of breeding on tlie Pribylolf Islands arc preserved. The time jiroposed as close months deserves consideration, \h., from the 15th April to the 1st November. Por all practical purposes, so far as Canadian sealers are concerned, it might as avcH read from the 1st January to tiie 31st December. It is a well-known fact that seals do not begin to enter the Bchring's Sea until the middle or end of ^fay ; they haA'c practically all left those waters by the end oL October. Tlie establishment of the proposed close season, therefore, proliibits the taking of seals during the whole year. Even in that case, if it were jirojiosed to make this close season operative for all on the Islands of St. Paul and St. George as well as in the Avaters of the Bchring's Sea, it could at least be said that the close time Avould bear equally on all. But the United States' Government propose to allow seals to be killed by their own citizens on the rookeries, the only places where they haul out in Alaska, during June, July, September, and (Jctober, four of the months of the proposed close season. The result would be that while all others would be prevented from killing a seal '\a Bchring's Sea, the United States would possess a complete monopoly, av.d the eli'eet would be to render infinitely more valuable and maintain in perpetuity the seal flsheries of the North Pacific for the sole benefit of the United States. It is to be noted that the area proposed by Mr. Bayard to be alfected by the close • Executive Document No. 31, 50tli Congress, 1st Session, 215 Hod l)v tlicii' season virtually covers the whole portion of the Bcliring's Sea in which the'exclusivc ri^lit of sealing has, during IbHO and 1887, been ])ractically maintained by the United Stat(>s' Governniput, To tliis is added a part of the North Pacific Ocean, north 50° of north latitude, and which (jomrnands the approach of the seals to the passes leading into Behring's Sea. liy the adoption of tliis area and close season tlie United States would "ain, by consent, what sh(> has for two years held in defiance of international law and the protests of Oreat Britain and Canada. And Avhile this area Avoidd be held closed to all operations except to those of lier own sealers on the I'ribyloU" Islands, the north-west coast of North America up to the- 50th paralhil of north latitude and the scaling areas on the north-eastern const of Asiar would be open to her as before. The device, if successful, would feed and perpetuate the rookeries on St. Paul and St. George Islands, and add immensely to their value, wliilo it cuts olfat one blow tho most valuable portion of the high seas from all participation by the scalers of all other nations. It is to be borne in mind tiiat Canada's interest in this industry is a vital and' important one, that she has had a very largo capital remuneratively employed in it," and that while by the propos(>d plan the other Powers chiefly interested have theirf compensations, Canada has uon(.>. To lun- it would mean ruin so far as the scaling industry is concerned. Mr. Ikyard a])peals to the Government of Great Britain on the grounds of the labour interested in preparing the seal-skins in London. ft is not necessary that the Alaska Comm(n'cial Company should do the sole catching of seals in order to retain this advantage to London labourers. Tho sealskins taken by Canadian seahu's find their way to London to be dressed, just as surely as do those taken by the United States' Company. So long as the fishery is not exhausted, London will, other things being equal, retain the advantage she now ])ossesses in this respect; Rut Mr. Bayard must misapprehend the sense of justice of Iler ^Majesty's Government if he supposes that they would consent to an unjust deprivation of Canadian rights,! heciuise of the alleged prospe(!t of perpetuating some small pecuniary advantage to al limited section of her subjects in London. Under this proposal Eussia would lose> nothing. Her vessels do not now pursu(^ seals in that part of Behring's Sea ceded by' lior to the United States in 1867. Russia has valuable seal islands of her own : tho Conunander Islands in Behring's Sea, and Eobben Reef in the Okhotsk Sea, on which there are valuable; rookeries, and the Russian Government draws a considerable I'cvenne therefrom, as they are under lease to this same Alaska Commercial Company. This part of Behring's Sea does not fall within the proposed c1os(hI area. It has been already shown that the United States would gain largely by the establishment of this close period. Prom her rookeries on the PribylolF Islands she draws now a yearly revenue of over 300,000 dollars. This would not only not be interfered with, but would be enormously increased by reason of the pi>rj)(>tual monopoly she would enjoy under the proposed arrangement. 15ut while this is true as to Russia and the United States, Canada would lose the «njoyment of a lucrative right long possessed, and this loss would be fatal to her prosecution of the seal industry, and would be unrelieved by a single compensation. It is manifest, from a perusal of Mr. Bayard's letter, that the pi'0])osition is to prevent the killing of seals during the close time by any process Avhatcver within the area set ai)art, except, of course, upon the Pribylofl: Islands. Experienced scalers aver that by the present methods of hunting Avith gun and spear not more than one in ten of the seals struck is lost, and it is not belicAcd that these methods are so destructive as Mr. Bayard alleges. Tho method of taking seals by means of the net is not a destructive method, and yet it is proposed to prohibit this as avcU. It appears, therefore, that Avhat ilr. Hayard intends is to entirely prevent the killing of seals Avithin the area jn'oposcd by any methods or by any i)ersons except by tho methods employed upon the Pribyloif Islands and by the citizens of the United States, Avho may, for the time being, cujoy the monopoly of taking seals thereon. Against this unjust and unnecessary interference with, or rather prohibition of, rights so long enjoyed to a lawful and remunerative occupation upon the high seas, tlu; Undersigned begs to enter his most earnest protest, (Signed) GEO. E. POSTER, Actinij Minister of Marine and Fisheries, I it il ' 216 No. 148. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received August 20.) Sir, Downing iStreel, August 18, 1888. WITH rol'tironco to thn letter from this Department of the 10th instant, I am directed by Lord Knutst'ord to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, copies oi two despatches from the Governor-Gcncral of Canada rcspeetin" the proposed sale at Port Townshcnd of four of the British sealini»-vesscls captured last year in Behring's Sea. Lord Knutst'ord hopes that the Minute of the Canadian Government, inclosed in Lord Stanley of Preston's despatch of the 2Cth July, will receive I^ord Salisbury's attentive consideration. T am at the same time to request that Her Majesty's Minister at Washington may be desired to report when the appeal to the Supreme Court of the United States in the case of the "W, P. Sayward " is likely to come on, and to report generally on tlic jjrogress of the case. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BK.\MSTON. Inclosurc 1 in No. 148. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Citadel, Quebec, July 20, 1888. WITH reference to previous correspondence relative to the pending proceedings in the case of Canadian scaling-vessels seized in Behring's Sea, I have the honour to forward to your Lordship an extract of an approved Minute of the Privy Council, based upon Sir L. West's despatch of the 19th March,* a copy of which, together Avith other correspondence, noted in the margin, is inclosed herewith. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosurc 2 in No. 148. Extract from a Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by His Excellency the Governor-General in Council, on Jruy 7, 1888. THE Committee of the Privy Council have had imder consideration a despatch dated the 19th March, 1888, from Iler JIajesty's Minister at Washington, rclativt^ to pending proceedings in the cases of Canadian sealers seized in B(ihring's Sea. The Subcommittee of Council to whom the (luestion was referred report as follows : — In the desputeli of the 19tli :^[arch, 1888, Sir Lionel Sackvillc West states that the Attornoy-Cieneral of the United States had intimated tliat llule 10 of the practice, in Admiralty and lUilcs of the Supreme Court (1 887) make it plain that the contiscated sealing-ships seized in Behring's Sea can be bonded pending appeal; and Sir Lionel Sac. .illcAVest fiutlicr states that, as to the ijucstion whether such vessels can be bonded without oldigation to appeal, he is advised tliat, since it was agreed in the Conference that the question of damages should be reserved, any such request would open up the whole question of damages on each side. The Sub- Committee observe that the obligation sought to be impos(;d upon (lie owners of tlvj Canadian vessels seized in Behring's Sea of appealing from the deeisiou of the Magistrate of Sitka to the Supi'eme Court of the United States, is obviously one which cannot witli justice or ])ropriety be enforced. Some doubt exists as to the right of appeal, and if it be held that no appeal Avill lie, the bonds will be forfeited. A])art from this risk, however, Avhich the owners of the \ essels arc asked to take upon themselves, it appears that the giving of bonds of such a natui'c would involve the admission that 'he Courts of the United States bad jurisdiction in regard to the seizures, and that the laws of the United States applied to the cases of these vessels, • Sec No. 110. m St 18, 18HH. instant, I am 10 Marqnis of ada rcspooting s captuvod last lit, in(!losc(l in ird Salisbury's ashington may d States in the ncrallv on the UAMSTON. such propositions could by no means bo admitted. Tlie vessels had not entered within the waters over which the laws of the United States extend, and over which the Executive or Judiciary of that country have any authority. The vessels in question were molested in a lawful occupation on the high sejis, and were seized by vessels in the service of the United States but possessing no right whatever to molest the people of Canada or their property on the ocean. Similar outrages have b(ion committed in the preceding year, and the vessels seized then were ordered to be surrendered by tlie United States' authorities. In the present cases, therefore, the refHjtition of such acts of violence was a proceeding for which the owners of the vessels have a right to expect that Her Majesty's Government will demand and exact redress. They should not bo asked to seek that redness in the Courts of any foreign countiy whatever, and the Courts of the United States have no more cognizance of their complaint than the Courts of any other foreign country. The Committee, concurring in the above Report, advise that your Excellency be moved to transmit a copy of this Minute to tiie Right Honourable tho Secretary of State for the Colonies, and also to tho British Minister at Washington. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, C/erfc, Privy Council, Canada, uUj 20, 1888. ; proceedings in the honour to r Council, based , together with PRESTON. ', approved by 88. it ion a despatch ;ton, r(>lutivt' to Sea. >rred report as 'est states that of the practice the conliseated and Sir Tiionel vessels can l)e ati'vecd in the I request would ])osod upon tho )ni the (lecisiou ! obviously one !xists as to the )c forfeited. asked to take Avould involve regard to the f these vessels, Inclosure 3 in No. 148. Sir L. West to the Marqnis of Lansdowne, March 19, 1888. i [See Inclosure 2 in No. 110.] Inclosure 4 in No. 148. Mr. Foster to Sir L. West, March 6, 1888. [See Inclosure 1 in No. 110.] Inclosure 5 in No. 148. The Marquis of Lansdowne to Sir L. West. (Extract.) Government House, Ottawa, March 23, 1888. I HAVE the honour to inclose herewith, for your information, copy of a despatch which I have addressed to the Secretary of State for the Colonies* upon the subject of the Canadian sealing-vessels seized by United States' cniizers in the Behring's Sea. Should you be able to obtain any information in regard to the action likely to be taken during the present year by eruizers of the United States in the Rehring's Sea against vessels frequenting those waters, I shall be much obliged if you will put me in possession of it. Inclosure 6 in No. 148. Lord Stanley of Preston to Sir L. West. Sir, The Cascapedia, New Richmond, July 21, 1888. WITH reference to your despatch of the 19th March, inclosing a copy of a telegram which you had received from my Minister of Marine and Fisheries relative to the pending proceedings in tlie cases of Canadian sealing-vessels seized in Behring's Sea, and in reply thei'cto, setting forth the opinion of the Attorney-General that Rule X of the practice in Admiralty and Rules of the Supreme Court (1887) make it plain that contiscated ships can bo bonded pending appeal, I have the honour to tr^ l\ m [128] * See Incloiure in No. 1 14. 2 F ! I m^ 318 forward lierewith a copy of an approved Minute of tlio Privy Council conoiurring in a report o£ the Sub-Committee to whom the question was referred. I liave communicated a copy of the inclosed Minute of Council to the Socrotaty of State for the Colonies. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. luelosure 7 in No. 148. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Citadel, Quebec, August 4, 1888. WITH reference to roy telegram of the 30th ultimo requesting that the Imperial authorities may urge the United States' Government to take steps for postponing the sale of the scaling schooners " Anna JJeck," "Dolphin," " Grace," and " Ada," which wore seized last year in Behring's Sea, pending the settlement of the question concerning the legality of their seizure, I have the honour to forward herewith a copy of Jri approved Minute of the Privy Council, upon which my telegram was founded. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosui-e 8 in No. 148. Report of a Commit Ire of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by His Excellency the Governor-General in Council, on July 30, 18S8. THE Committee have had under consideration a telegram dated the 20th July, 1888, from the Lieutenant-Governor of British Columbia with respect to the bonding of the sealing-schooners " Anna Beck," " Dolphin," " Grace," and " Ada," seized in Bering's Sea in 1887. The Minister of Marine and Fisheries, to whom the said telegram was referred, recommends that the Imperial Government be moved to request the interposition of the United States' Government to have the sale of the condemned vessels postponed pending the settlement of the question as to the legality of their seizure. The Committe submit the above for your Excellency's approval, and advise that your Excellency he moved to communicate by cable to the Colonial Secretary the request of the Lieutenant-Governor of British Columbia, and to urge upon Her Majesty's Government the necessity for immediate communication with the United States' Government with a view to save from further and disastrous loss the owners of the condemned vessels. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's apprpval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Q/erfc, Privy Council, Canada. Inclosure 9 in No. 148. Lieutenant-Governor Nelson to the Hon. C H.' TVtpper. (Telegraphic.) Victoria, British Columbia, July 20, 1888. THE following sealing schooners, seized in Behring's Sea in 1887, " Anna Beck," " Dolphin," " Grace," and " Ada," are now being taken froin Sitka to Port Townsend, Puget Soimd, to be sold by United States' Marshal of Alaska. Judge of District Court of Alaska has refused bonding to owners, giving as reason application too lat^. Under present circumstances, owners willing' and anxious to bdtid VdsAibtsYor^&pp^ised valU68: — "Anna Beck,'' 2,660 dolhirs ; " Dol|>Mn," 7,760 ddlare; "Gi^iJef," lO/4e4'a»llttk{ "Ada," 2,900 dollars 5 or, pending settlement of qu^ion, hdVeiMi pbfcttiotifedl' Wftl' Dominioii GoverriiWBtvt ta3«i nefceSBary steps to secUte if po^sMe lrom'''UMftei4'^W' Govemtoent that this t\rralilg<dtiU3nt'i^haU be ac6edied to ? :^i 219 No. 149. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Saliibury. — {Received August 27.) ^y Lord, Beverley {Massachusetts), August 6, 1888. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of the 2nd instant, I have the honour to inclose herewith copy of a note which I addressed to the Secretary of State, asking that the sale of the four Uritish vessels seized last year in Behring's Sea may Iw ipostponed pending the settlement of the question of the legality of the seizure. I llQVO oLii (Signed) ' L." S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure in No. 149. Sir L. West to Mr. Bayard. Sir, Beverley {Massachusetts), August 6, 1888. I HAVE the honour to inform you that Her Majesty's Government have received intelligence to the effect that the four British ships seized last year in Behring's Sea are being taken to Port Townsend for sale by the United States' authorities. It would seem tliat this action has been taken in consequence of the Judge of the District Court of Alaska having refused to bond the owners upon the ground that their application was too late. f^^"^'. The Marquis of Salisbury has now requested me to ask the United States' Government to postpone the sale of the said vessels pending the settlement of the question of the legality of the seizure. (Signed) ' L.' S. SACKVILLE WEST. No. 150. S:r L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Received August 31.) My Lord, Beverley {Massachusetts), August 16, 1888. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of the 2nd August, I have the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith copy of a note which I have received from tho Secretary of State, stating that, in pursuance of your Lordship's request conveyed through me, the Acting Attorney-General has directed by telegram and letter the postponement of the sale of the vessels in question, and has also Instructed the United States' Marshal in charge to receive bonds in lieu of the vessels. I communicated the substance of this note to your Lordship this day by tele- graph, and have informed tte Governor-General of Canada to the same effect. (Signed) ' L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure in No. 160. Mr. Bayard to Sir L. West. Sir, Department of State, Washington, August 13, 1888. WITH further reference to your note of the 6tli instant, conveymg the request of the Marquis of Salisbury for a postponement of the sale of four British vessels seized in Behring's Sea last year, I have now the honour to state that I have just received a letter from the Acting Attorney-General, informing me that, in pursuance of the request so made, he had directed by telegram and letter the postponement of the sale of the vessels in question, and has also instructed the United States' Marshal ki charge to receive honda in lieu of the vessels. Accept, &c. (Signed) T. F. BAYARD. ! I; fl28] 2 F 2 S30 No. IBl. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. Wesi. Ilr» Foreign Office, September 1, 1888. WITH roferonco to your dospatch of tho lOtb ultimo, I transmit herowitli a copy of a letter from tho Colonial OfllcR,* inclosing copies of two despatches from Lord Stanley of Preston to tho Secretary of State for the Colonics relative to tlie proposed sale of four of the British vessels seized when engaged in soal-tishing last year in Uehring's Sea. Before taking any further action with regard to these seizures by tho American authorities, I request that you will inform mo when tlio appeal to tho Supreme Court of the United States in the case of the " W. P. Say ward " is likely to come on, and to report generally on tho progress of the case. I am, &o. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 152. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, September 1. 1888. I HAVE laid 'before tho Marquis of Salisbury your letter of the 18th ultimo inclosing copies of two despatches from tho Goyornor-General of Cauada on the subjcci of the legal proceedings pending before the United States' Courts with regard to the British vessels seized by tho American authorities when engaged in seal-fishing in Bebring's Sea, and the claims for damages raised by the owners of the vessels. I am to request that you will state to Secretary Lord Knutsford, in reply, that before taking any action on tho Minute of the Canadian Government inclosf ith Lord Stanley's despatch of tho 26th July, 1888, Lord Salisbuiy has instru( or Majesty's Minister at Washington to state when the appeal to the Supreme ,t the United States in tlie case of the " W. P. Say ward " is likely to come on, and to report generally on the progress of the case. I am, &c. (Signed) P. CUREIE. No. 153. I The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir L. IVest, Sir, Foreign Office, September 3, 1888. WITH reference to my despatch of the IGth April last, relative to the proposals received from tlie Government of the United States for concerted action on the part of the Powers interested in the matter, with a view to the establishment of a close season for the preservation of the fur seals resorting to Bebring's Sea, I have to inform you that I have recently bad a long conversation with Mr. Plielps on the subject. lie stated that his Government were very anxious that an agreement .should be arrived at as soon as possible. I pointed out tlie difficulties felt by the Canadian Government, and said that, while the scheme was favourable to the industries of the mother country, considerable apprehension was felt in Canada with respect to its possible effect on colonial interests. I added that I was still sanguine of coming to an arrangement, but that time was indispenc ""ble. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY, Xo. 148. ^^ca 931 No. 184. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. e on, and to Sir, Foreign Office, September 3, 1888. I HAVE laid before the Marquis of Salisbury your letter of the 18th ultimo, inclosing a copy of n despatch from tht> Oovi'mor-Gcneral of Canada, with a Minute of his Privy Council on the proposal made by the United States' Qovommont for the establishment of a close time for fur seals in Beh ring's Sea. With reference to Lord Knutsford's suggestion that the Government of the United States should make some modified proposal, I am to request that you will inform his Lordship that liOrd Salisbury has recently had a long conversation with Mr. Phelps on the subject. Mr. Phelps stated that his Government were "v^'y anxious that an agreement should be arrived at as soon as possible. The difficulties felt on the subject by the Government of the Dominion were pointed out to him, and ho was informed that, while the scheme was advantageous to the industries of the mother country, considerable apprehension was felt in Canada as to its possible effect on colonial interests. Lord Salisbury added that he was still sanguine of coming to an arrnngement, but that time was indispensable. I am, &c. (Signed) P. CUllRIE. No. 155. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Rei ived October 1.) My Lord, Beverly {M(Lsmchusetts), September 13, 1888. WITH reference to my despatch of the 16th ultimo, I have the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith copy of a note which I have received from the Secretary of State, together with copy of the con"esj)oudcuce which accompanic^d it, relative to the sale of certain British vessels seized in Behring's Sea, which sale had, at your Lordship's request, been postponed, and to request your Lordship's instructicms as to the answer to be returned. I have forwarded copies of this correspondence to the Governor- General of Canada. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Inclosure 1 in No. 156. Mr. Bayard to Sir L. West. Sir, Department of State, Washington, September 10, 1888. REFERRING to previous correspondence in relation to the sale of the four British vessels condemned for taking seals illicitly in Behring's Sea in 1887, 1 have the honour to inform you that I have received a communication from the Acting Attorney- General of the 3rd instant, in which an expression of my views is requested upon the propriety of an immediate sale of the vessels in view of certain statements made in regard to them. As an order for the postponement of the sale and the bonding of the vessels was issued by the Department of Justice in compliance with the request of Lord Salisbury communicated to this Department, I inclose herewith a copy of the letter of the Acting Attorney-General, together with its inclosures, and will be glad to learn whether, in the light of the facts now disclosed, it is still the desire of his Lordship that the sale should not be proceeded with. I have, &3. (Signed) T. F. BAYARD. M^ 1 ■>f 1 I) m Bt J- . !. I'' I .1 ■^ I" ; 222 Inolosure 2 in No. 165. Mr. Jenks to Mr. Bayard. ^ Sir, Washington, September 3, 1,888. I HAVE the honour to send you copies of letters of the 28rd and 25th ultimo, from Mr. Atkins, United States' Marshal for the District of Alaska, and to ask for an expression of your views upon the propriety of an immediate sale of the ressels men. tioned hy the Marshal on consideration of the statements he makes in relation to iLom. ' 'iiv !'».; ■; ; . >. ■■ .; .■■'■•• - •:■•; I have, &c. (Signed) G. A. JEHKS, Acting Aftorney-General. Inclosure 3 in No. 155. Mr. Atkins to Mr. Jenks. Sir, Seattle, Washington Territory, August 23, 1888. IN reference to the four condemned British vesbels now in my custody, I have the honoiu; to report : — That the owners of the schooners " Anna Beck," " Grace," and " Dolphiu " claim that the appraisement made at Sitka one year ago was at the time excessive, and that their value on account of the inclement climate of Alaska has in the meantime heen constantly depreciating, and therefore decline to bond them at such appraisement, hut request a new appraisement, which, if not granted, they desire the sale to proceed. The owner says, however, that he will furnish satisfactory bonds for tl?p schoouor " Anna Beck " at her present appraised value if it can be effected, subject to a final settlement of the matter and without the expense of an appeal to the Supreme Court. Having myself a practical knowledge of the value of such property, I fully coincide with the claimant thit the valuation put on the schooners "Grace" and "Dolphin " at Sitka was excessive. The schooner " Ada " is owmK'. and registered at Shaughae, China, and her owner, whoever he may be, has not yet made any claim or appearance. Ill the meantime, the vesselw are remote from my district, thus greatly increasing the responsibility of theiv safe custody, and the cxponsc thereof constantly increasing. I desire to be instracted^ In case vcsjols are not soon sold n* bcmdcd, what further action to take in reference io returning to my district and leaving the >idsels in charge of a special deputy. I liave, &c. (Signed) BARTOiN ATKINS. Inclosure 4 in No. 155. Mr. Atkins to Mr. Jenks. District of Alaska, Office of United States^ Marshal, Sir, Portland, Oregon, August 25, 1888. IN view of the present situation relative to the British vessels in my custody now moored at Port Townsend, Washington Territory, I beg leave to state as follows : — That all of said vessels, owing to the length of time they have been out of coiumission, are in a dilapidated condition, and their depreciation in value is constant and i-apid. That tliey are small in size, the combined tonnage of the four being only 219 tons. That the owner of the " Anna Beck," " Grace," and " Dolphin," Captain J. D. Warren, of Victoria, British Columbia, has notified me that ho prefers that the " Grace " and " Dolphin " should be sold witlicut further delay, and the " Anna Beck" also, unless ho can bond that vessel withov.t instituting an appeal to the Supreme Couri,, or making the journey to Sitka for that purpose. That if longer held in custody, thej will have to be removed from Port Townsend to some place secure from the fall and winter winds, for permanent moorings. All of which beenrequ Idol not bonde Townsend, My Lord, WITH honour to alluded to United Sta Sir, WITH Marquis of Her Majest seized in B( I am Knutsford, to the inqui vessels seize Sir, WITH Knutsford 1 of ielegrapl bonding of i Lord K Majesty's 1! the course n (Telegraphic WITH relative to I 223 of which will be attended hy much greater expense comparatively than has heretofore been required for their safe custody. I do not hesitate to recommend that, in interest of aU concerned, the vessels, if not bonded, should ho sold viohout delay. It is my purpose soon to repair to Port To\rnsend, there to await Department orders. I have, &c. (Signed) BARTON ATKINS. ■ : ! V M No. 156. Sir L. West to the Marquis of Salisbury.— '{Received October 1.) My Lord, Beverly (.Massachusettc^, September 15, 1888. WITH reference to your Lordship's despatch of the 1st instant, I have the honour to inform your Lordship that the appeal in the case of the " W. P. Sayward," alluded to therein, has not yet aven been doc^^eted in the Supreme Court of the United States. I have, «&c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. No. 167. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, October 2, 1888. WITH reference to your letter of the 10th August last, I am directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to transmit to you copies of a despatch, and its inclosures, from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington on the subject of the British sealing-vesscls seized in Bchring's Sea.* I am to request that, in laying Sir L. West's despatch before Secretary Lord Knutsford, j )U will move liim to inform Lord Salisbury what reply should be returned to the inquiry of the United States' Secretary cf State with regard to the sale of the vessels seized. I .am, &c. (Signed) P. CURRIE. No. 158. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received October 9.) Sir, Downing Street, October 8, 1888. WITH refewmca to your letter of the 2nd instant, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transjnit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, copies of telegraphic (iorrcspondence with th(; Governor-General of Canada respecting the bonding of the vessels seized last year in Behring's Sea. Lord Knutsford would be glad if instructions coiUd be giv.-n by telegraph to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington to pri>pose to the Unlod States* Government the course recommended in Lord Stanley of Preston's telcgi.im of the 6th instant. 1 am, &c. (Signed) llOBERT G. W. HERBERT. Inclosure 1 iu No. 158. Lord Knutsford to Lord Stanley of Preston. (Telegraphic.) .-. . DowniAig Strfet, Of/ofrer, .4,, 1688., ,., WITH reference to Mr. Bayard's note to Sir L. W(;st o^ t^ie lOtli September , relative to Behring's Sea seizures, what ansv. oi should be retumea ? -'i^l :I •u-^.r • ,*fo. \6S. if'* i y 1 1 1 ;il ? i li' M •I ? 224 Inclosure 2 in No. 158. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knuttford. (Telegraphic.) * October 6, 1888. RECOMMEND that United Slates' authorities he moved to authorize the reappraisement of "Grace" and "Dolphin," and in case of " Anna Beck" to accept proposed bonds of owner, subject to final settlement of matter. No. 159. The Marquis of Salisbury to Lord Sarkville. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, October 10, 1888. IN reply to your despatch of the 13th ultimo, I request that you will move United States' Government to authorize reappmisement of " Grace" and " Dolphin," and to accept proposed bond of owner, svbject to final settlement of matter, in case of "Anna Beck." No. 160. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, October 10, x88b. 1 AM directed by tlie Marquis of Salisbury to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 8th instant, on the subject of the British vessels seized in Behriug's Sea. I am to state to you, in reply, for the information of Lord Knutsford, that a telegram has this day been scnit to Her Majesty's Minister at Wa bington, requesting him to move the Government of the United States to authorize tl. e reappraisement of the "Dolphin " ajul " Grace," and to accept the proposed Iwnd O'' the owner of the " Anna Beck," subject to a final settlement of the matter. I am, &c. (Signed) .TULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 161. Sir L. West to the .\farqvis of Salisbury. — {Recrirrd October 12.) My Lord, Beverly {Massachusetts), September .10, 18S8. WITH reference to my despatch of the 13th instant, 1 have tlie Iwiiiour to inclosa copy of a furthtu- note which I have received from tlie Secretary of State, relative to the four Briti&l' seah;i"s ecmdemned for taking seals in Bcliring's Sea, and requesting a decision in regard to the disposition of them. I have forwarded copy of this note to the Governor-General of Canada. I have, &c. (Signed) L. S. SACKVILLE WEST. Sir, Inclosure in No. 101. Mr. Bayard to Sir L. West. Department of State, Washington, September 27, \HHS. RECURRING to tlie subject of th(> four British vessels condemned for takini,' seals illicitly in IJehring's Sea in 1SS7, 1 liave tlie honour to inform you that \ have received from the Acting Attorney-General a letter, dated the 2(!tli instant, inclosiiiir copies of letters from the United States' Attorney for Alaska, and the United States' Marshal for Washington Territory, of the 7th and' 10th instant respectively, in relation to the same matter. The four vessels, the scliooners "Grace," "DolpJiin," "Anna Beck," and "Ada,' have been transferred by the United States' Marshal for Alaska to the custody of tbn 226 United States' Marslial For ■WashirijU'ton Torritoiy, and i\iv. Jiow at Port Towusend, subject to instructions from tlio Department of .lusTiee toueliinfi; their sale or other disposition. The Department is informed that none of the vessels liave been bonded, and that the owners of three of tliem have refused to take that step, on. the sfrouud that their appraisement was too high. As tiie seasoji advanees, the ] robability of realizing a fair price for the vessels will dijniuish, and the expenses incident to their retention by the Afarshal are necessarily accruing. These considerations make it proper that a decision in regard to the dis])ositiou of till' vessels should sjjcedily be reached, and I have the honour to lequest that if it is desired to postpone the sab; still further, the Pepartment may be assured at an early day that an arrangement will be made; whereby the vessels may be saved from becoming a loss. I have, &c. (Signed) T. F. BAYARD. . No. 102. Voieiyn Office lo Colonial Office, Sir. Forrifjn Office, October 13, 1888. WITH reference to my letter of the 10th instant, I am directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to transmit to you u copy of a despatch from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington,* inclosing a note from ilr. Uayard, requesting a decision as to the disposition of the four sealiug-schooners " Grace," "J)olpbin," "Anna Beck," and "Ada." I am to r(!qu»«t you to move Lord Knutsford to cause Lord Salisbury to be iufnrnied what reply should be returned as to the " Ada." llcr ilajesty's .Minister at Wa.diingtou has been already communicated with by telegraph in regard to the other thieo vessels, as you were informed in my letter above referred to. I am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 163. Colonial Ojfice It Foreujn Office. — (Recrivei/ (Aioher 22.) Sir, Downimj Utreet, Orl-itn- 20, 1 888. I AM directed by J^urd Knutsford to acknowledge the receipt of y -iir letter of the IKli instant, inclosin;'; a cojiy of a despatch from Her Majesty's Minister at Wasliington.t stating that the appeal in the case of the " W. P. Sayward " has not yet been docketed in the Supreme Court of the United States. In your letter of the 1st ultimo, it was stated that before taking any action on the Minute of the Canadian Government, inclosed in the despatch from Lord Stu ley of I'reston of the 2(ith July last, Lord Salisl)ury had instructed Her Majesty's Minister at AVashinglon to state when the appeal to the Supreme Court in the case of the 'W. P. Sayward " was likely to come on, and to report generally on the progress of the case. As it appears from the ansuer now r(^ceiv(;d from Sir L. West that there is likijv to be considerable delay in this casi', Lord Knutsford would be glad lo be informed whether, in Lord Salisbury's opinion, action should not now be taken on the Minute of the Canadian Privy Coimcil referred to. I am, &c. (Signed) .TOHN BRAMSTiJN. -- - — ' ■' — : . -■ :■ [12SJ • No. 101. \ No. 15U. 2 G : I i i 1 ii m floloMiii O/firr Id Foreii/n 0/ficc. — [Uaccivcd OcMW-c *i(>.) SiK ' , linmhij «»-p>/; Or?o^(>r 25, IShs. ^Vltll ivIVriMCM' li) Hu« l(>tti>f I'nmi tills bcpartmcMil oV ilio Mill liisiiili^, ri'sjWtiiii; tlic liomlinn' ol' I'cilaiii vessels seized l;isl yc'ir in llclirinEf's Soa, 1 (liii directed liv \,<m\ Kimtsriird to (rMusmit lo you, for the int'ormalin!; ol' Mie !\lav(|uis bl' Salislml-y, a, copj of a d(>s]ialeli fruiu lli(> (lOvcrnov-deneral ol' Coiada on llie siil)j(>ci. As (lu^ ))aj)ers I'orwanled liy l<or(l Stanley "T I'resioii do not ailfitvi't' tlio i(iiesli()ii ill Mr. Uayar I's nuje |i> Sir Moilel Wesl. dali'd llu^ I'ltli Se|ilt>n\l)er lasl (iiicl(is(vl in your ieder to (liis Deparl nient ol' the 2nd in ':in(\ so I'av as (•()n(M'rnK llie si'liooiicr " Ada " Lord iMuilsl'iird lias telen'iMiiMed to llie ( ioveriior-(ieiu>ral of (!an!i(la with ivference lo yoiir letter ol llie |.'5lli iustanl, askini;' what r(>|)ly should he rotiirneil in rcii'ard to that vesstd. I am, (fcc, (Sinned) .lOli.N MKAMSTn.N, liudosiire I i ; \o. itil. liord Sldiihi/ of rrrsioii io Luril Kiiulsf'nnl . My Ijord. (tdirniiiii III Itoime, Oltoirii, (hiolwr H, liiXS. U'lTll referenee lo your 1ele<frani ol' tile till iiistaiil, iii(]uiriiii;' whitt ttiiswrr shoe.ld lie retimiid to Mr. Ha\;ird'.s note lo Sir Lionel West of the LOtii Septetiilicr with refiM-enee to the Innidinj^ ol' ei-rlain Mrilish m'ss Is seiy.ed some lime since in n(<lirinu''s Sea. I have the hoiioiir lo imcIosi" h(M'C\vitli a co)iy of a despatch whieli I ha\e to-day adilr(>ssed I o Sir Ijioiiel West, emeiaite' acojiy ol' an .approved Minute n' my Privy ("'onneil dealintr with this snlijecl. I ha\e, iVc. (Si-iicd) STAMJ;\ OF I'KES'l't )N. Ineio.sure 2 ill Is'o. Kit. Liirtl ,'>linilri/ (if Prcsliiii lo Sir I,. W'csl. Sir, (iorrniinriil Ihiusc, Otiiiiid, Orlolirr >^, l.'-iS*^. I IIAA'I'I the honour to acixiiowlcd^c the rec(<ii)l, of your despateii ol Hh 181h iilliino. e()\i'rini;' copy of a note liMin thi> Secretary of Stal,(> ol' the I'liited Slat('^ with copies ol' t'oia-cspHidcnce aeiMnipanyiim' it. relative lo the hondiim' ol' the IJiilisii ships "(iraee," " Dolphin," und "Anna Ke(d\,"' which wore seized .souu; time sinci! in Behring's Sea. I now liCij' to iiudosc co|)y oi ;in api>iii\ed Minute of my I'rivy Council in relatidn to this matt(>r. from which it will l>i> seen iliat my Ministers desire that the (xoveviini'iil of the I'nited States may he moved to aiilhorize the reappraiseincnt of the schodiirb "lirace" and '• D.dphin," owin;; to tli(> fact, which is duly set, forth in the (Mirnspdii- dence aecom])anyinu' .Mr. IJayard's note, that lli(> appraisement m.'uh' at. Sitka mor(' tliaii a year since is rc^'.irded liy the owners as havinu," lieen ex<'(>ssive, and as havinj^' heeonio still more so. eims(<iiuent upon the exposure of these vessels lo the inclement cliiuutc of Alaska. As n'uards the c;ise of the "Anna. I<(>ek." the Minute I'ccommends tiiat the Unit':.! States' tioviaainuMit may he requested to nive instructions that the jiroposod hon.is of the owner may be accepted, subject to a iiual settlement of this question. I have, \c. (Si-uod) STAX,LEY 01^ PRESTO N. Rrpnii (if (I { Till'; (J. from Sir \t. ('(ipy of a 11(1 of corrcspoii si'i/.cd in Hell The Mil tli.'il on tl|(! ;j "TheC. 1S,ss, from tl iif the sealii'ii Sen in 1HS7. referred, reeoi lidii of tli(' |iosl polled, |)( " The (U tli.'il your I'lx the l'e(|uest ol .Majesty's (Jo Stales" (Joveri (he condeniiK the ISIh .Aim follows : '■ Aelin;;' j ]10stpel|(^ IIk ! lioiiils in lieu ( The .Mini intinialioii con sale, and perm made by the I Lord Salisbur' :il S.'altle, Wa that the owut tlmt not only < Hiat the value ! ill!! meantime with the exeep iipjmiisemeiit, I ili'sired the ,sal( It further Ivpssels, the ' I value already a ■111(1 witi.oiiriie Tht' -ilinjs |ni('nt, the t/iii iio\vled!>'e of II Ivaliiatioii pu{ o The Coniiii j^ ropy of this jmoviii'^' the Til jtlie'- (iraee" ai I he given to aec 111' mat t cr. All oj.! wlii \ IS'^'^. ll til' II" (•(I Sl;ll('^ It' IJniisli • SlllCI! HI 11 I'l'liitiiiii (VeVMUlCllI sc1iO(mi'i> ;oi'i'('s])oii- liflJnit'j.i 1)011. is rf Tnclosiiro 8 ifi No. 164. Rfpnil of It CniiniiUlri' of the Honourabli; the P.riri/ Cnniiril., nppinvcil bi/ his lirri-llptin) Iho (li)riT<ini-f rrinif in ('i)iivrll, on Ihr aUIIi Sfplnnhnr, IHHH. 'I'll I') (Joiiiniiltfc of llic I'rivj Coiincil li.'iyo lind luidcr considonition a tlosjmtoh from yir |i. Wrsf, to Lord Sliiiilcy, iiiidor (into (lii^ llllii Sc^ptcnilu'r iiistuiil, covcriiif; copy ol' a note IVoin lli<i {Secretary <d' Wtale lor tlie United States, toifoMier wit|( copies dl' eorivHiMiiidiMiec wJii^di acepuipajiied it, reljitive (o ceit(^)i sliipH which had l>Of!ii sci/.ed ill neiiriiii,"'s Sea. Tlie Aliiiislcr ol' .VTariri(; and i'isliorios, to wliom tli(> rthovc was referred, reports tlijit on tl|t! IjOlh 'lii;^ last ii Aliiintc! on'oiirieil was adopted as i'ollows: — "The Coiimiiltee have had under eoiisidenition a telei^ram dated the 2<)th .Inly, 1SKS, I'roni the l/ieiileiiant-Oovprnor of Kritish I'niiimhia, with respect to the hoiidini; (if the scalieu' schooners ' Aiiii.i Me(.'|i,' ' .l)oljihiii,' !(irifce,' and'vNda,' seized in Mcdiriiifi's Si'M ill 1HS7. The Minister of Marine and I'^isherii's, to whom the said tcleijrani was ri'l'erred, reeoMi mends thai |he imperial (iovcrii|n<'lit !>(! )lij)ycd to re(|iiest, the intcrposi- lioii of the United Stales' (Jovcrnment to have IIk^ saTe ' \' the coiideiiiiKul vessels )i(ist polled, neiidiii<; tin; settlement of the fjiicstipn as to the Icfjality o). their seizure. "The tJo|nnii|tee snhmjl llie ahove lor your hJicem.'ncy's apiirov^ij, and advise tliiit your I'lvcellency he moved to coniniunicatc hy Caldc' to the rolonial Siicrelury the HMpicst of the Lieiitenan. -( Jovernor of Uritisli Coliimhia, and to iii'f;c iijioii Her Majesty's (iovernment (he necessity for imnicdiati- commnnication with the United Stiiles' (lovernntent, with a vimv to saw, fj-oni furtlicr and disastrous loss th,' owners of the condenined vessels ; " and that in ri'ply to this .Mimitc a telei^rain, under date of the IHtli Aiitjiist, ISSH, was re^;c(vo(f liy your l'Jxcclleii(;y from Sir Uioncil West as I'dllows : • " ActiiiL-' Attorney (iarrison \iUH ijiven directions, hotli hy letter and t(de<,'ram, to postpone tin sale of the schooners. The A|arshal has also heen directed to rocf^ivf^ honijs in lieu of tin; vi;ssels," Th(> Minister ohservcs that copies of the correspoinhiiice referred to confirm the intimation conveyed hy tin; ahov(^ tcle!;ram, that an order for the jiostponemcnt of the sale, .'iiid perniittiiif^ the hondiii'^ of these vesselsat the valiu' already ajipraiscd, had heen iiiiide hy tlic l)e|)aitineiit of .luslice at Washiii^lon, in conipliaiic(? with (he nuiiiest of Lord Salishiiry. Suhse(pient to tin; receipt of this or(ier. the United States' Alarshal lit Scalths Washiniitcni Territory, infornied the Attoriiey-dcneral for the United States that tli(^ owners of the schooners " .Vnna IJci-k." " CJrace," and " Doljihin," claimed thiit not only was the iifipraisement made af Sitka :i year previously excessive, hut that the value of the \es fls, on account of (Ik! iindt-ment (dimnte at Alaska, hewl in thfMiieantime liecii constantly dcpreciatinn-, and tiny therefore declined to hond them, with the exception of the " i\niia Heck," at such apiiraiscmcnt, hut rc(|uested a di'w :il)))i'aisi'ni(!nt, and stated that if a lu-w ap[)i'aiscment was not allowed, the owners 1 ilcsircd the sale should jn'oceed. |l further a])pears from the same cnmmunication, that in the case of one; of the vessels, the " Anna lieck," the owner is willing to furnish satisfactory honds, at the value already a|ipraised, if this <!an he done, suhject, to a llnal settlement of the matter, :niil v\itliont nccessitalini;' an ajijieal to the Su])r(Mrie (!!ourt of the United Stages. The .^lin|ster further oliserves that, lonchinj; the (luestion of exc^cssivc appraise- Iniont, the U'liited Slates' ^Iarsh,il statts as lollows • --•' llavint^ myself a practical kiiowledii'c of tlie value of such pri)])erty I full'- coincide with the elaimanl, that the |viiliiatiou pii| on the schooners 'Grace' and ' l)(dpliin ' was excessive." The (Ommittee recommend, therefore, that your l'lxcellen(!y lie moved to forward h copy of this Aliniitc to iier Majesty's Minister at Wasliini^ton, with a view to Imoviiii;' the t'tiited States' authorities to authorize the reap])raisement in the eases of he '• (i race" and "Dolphin," and tli;it in the case of the "Anna Heck," instructions |l)o given to accept tin; projMJsed houds of the owner, subject to a final settlement of hi' mat ter. All of which is respectfnlh submitted for your Rxcellencv's approval. '(Signed) .IfJlIN .1. McGEE, CUrh, Privy Coiwcit, Cnnadn, [12Sj 2 G 2 rf i f'i! B 228 No. 165. • • ^ Colonial Office to Foreujn Office. — {deceived November 2.) ' ' Sir, Downing Street, November 1, 188S. WITH reference to the letter from this Department of the 2.jtli Octoher res])i'('t. ing the honding of certain vessels seized last year in Behring's Soii, f am directed by Lord Kn\itsford to transmit to yon, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a telegram received from the tTOvernor-Oeneral of Canada rel.ating to the case of the vessel, " Ada." I am. &c. (Signed) JOHN BBAMSTON. Inclosure in No. 165. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knufsford. (Telegraphic.) ' * Or/o6e/- 28, 1888. IN reply to the inquiry made in your telegram of the 20th Octoljer, owners of " Ada " do not object to original appraisement of the vessel. My Ministers advise that action should be taken accordingly. No. 16(5. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. ^ Sir, Foreign Office, November 17, 188S. I HAVE laid before the Marquij of Salisbury your letter of the 1st instant, inclosing a telegram from the Governor-General of Canada, stating tiiat the owners of the " Ada,"' one of the sealing ships seized last year in Behring's Sea, do not object to the original ap])raisemeut of the vessel. His Lordship directs me to inquire Avhetlun- Lord Knutsford desires that llie substance of Lord Stanley's telegnun should be sent to Iter ^Majesty's Legation at Washington, for communication to the United States' Government. I am, &e. (Signed) .) ITLTAN PAUNCEFOTE, No. 167. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — [Received November 21.) Six", Downing Street, November 21, 1888. IN reply to your letter of the 17th instant, I am directed by Ixjrd Knutsford to acquaint you, for the information of the Marcjuis of Salisbury, that he thinks it desirable that the substance of the telegram from the Governor-General of Canada respecting the sealing ship "Ada " sliould be communicated to the Government of tlic United States. I am, &c. (Si-ned) JOHN BBAMSTON. No. 168. The Mtir<iuls of Snlisbtmi to Mr. Herbert. ('I"('legrni)hic.) Foreign Office, November 22, 188'^. WITH retVreiiee to my telegram of the 10th ultimo, you should inform Unitwi States' Government owners of "Ada" do not object to original appraisement of tiic vessel. )-:>. Sir. ' ■ ' I AM till' inforn; (leiice, cop; addressed t Hehring's i My Lord, WITH roply of to-: original app aiii)i'o\-eil B( based. Report of a THE C October inst (!t!i Oetobc returned, ■', dospatch fro oHiiers of tin rocommend t spiisi' in ansv (Telegraphic. WITH "ill be infor presume it \vi Sir, ' WITH transmit to yo the (Jovernor-i ri 220 Colonial Office to Foreii/n Office. — {Heceirml Xovember 2(j.) Sir. ■ ' ' ' '" Doirniny Street, Noreiiiber 2(i,lHSti. I AM (lirecood by the Secretary of Htate for tlio Colonies fo transmit to you, fdr tlic int'ornijition of tiio Marquis ol' Salisbury, with rcfercnco to j)revious correspon* (l(Mi('e, copy of a despattih from the (Joveriior-dicncra' of Canada, and of a tcloiiirani nddi'fissed to him rcspectiui!; the case of tlie " A<ia," oh<' of tl.t(Messels scizcid last year in i^ehrins's Sea, I am, &c. (Sis^n.d) ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. Inclosure 1 in Xo. 169. Lord Stanhji of Preston to Lord Kniitsford. My Lord, Gnrprnment Hous< Ottawa, October 27, 1888. WITH refercnc*' to your Lordslii[)'s t('li)!i'ram of the ilOth instant, and to mine in re))ly of to-day's date, stating that the owners of the " .Wla " do not object to the oi'i2;inal appi'aisomeut, I biivo tlie honour to trnnsniit to your jjordship a copy of au approved Report of a (Jomniittcc of th(> I'rivy ('onncil u])')n which my telegram was based. • I have, Sii-. (Signed) STANLEY OK PRESTON. Inclosure 2 in No. 10!). Report of a ('oiiiinillri' nf Ibr Honourable tbe Pricij Council, approved bi/ bin E.vcellenvij ibe Governor-General in Council on the 27th October, 1888. ' THE Committee of the Privy Council having referred the telegram of the 20th October instant (18S8), from Lord Knntslbrd, in the terms, "Referring to your telegram ()t!i October, Jiehring's Sea, aiul des])atch Stli October; what ausMer should be voturned, ■Adnr'" to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, who is advised by a (lospatch from the Lieutenant-Governor of British Columbia that the ageat for the owners of the schooner "Ada " does not object to the original appraisement, respectfully rrcoinmend that your Excellency be moved to tel(!graph Lord Knutsford in ihe above sons(> in answer to his telegram of the 20th October instant (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. luclosure .3 in No. 161). Lord Knutsford, to Lord Stanley of Preston. (Telegraphic.) J)nwnin(j Street, Xorend)er 0, 1888. WITH reference to your telegriun of 27th Oclobcr, United Slates' Government will be informed that owners of "Ada" do not object to original appraisement. I presume it will be for owners to take any further action. No. 170. Colonial Office fo Foreign Office.— [Receired Decemlter 4.) ^ir, Downinti Street, Decfinber 3, 18^8. WITH reference to previous correspondence, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a telegram from the Governor-General of Canada, inquiring whether any answer has yet been received t I'ji-*.- 2^0 from the United States' Government op tliu subject of the roappraisement of the vessels seized Inst year in Boluing's Son. Tlic tolcj;rani Ironi I-ord Stanley of the (5tli October, referred to in his present niessagi', \vas eoninuiiiicatei| to yqu ip the letter from tliis Department of the 8th of that month. Lord Ivnutsford would he glad to learn whctlier any answer has been received from t]ie Iljijled Suites' Government on tlii.s subject, and, if n()t, he desires me to suj^gest tliat a reply ^hoult| he asked for by telegraph. I am, &c. (Signed) ROJVEBT G. W. J^E^B^T. jndosure i^i Nq. 170. The M(irqu/i» of Lamdownt^ to Lord Knulsfonl. (Telegrnphic.) November 29. 1S88, H.WK you answer troni Washington relative to leappraisement of vessels "Grace." " Dolphin,"' "Anna Ik'ck," referred to in mj telegram of the fJth October? Governor of Britisl) Columbia ijrcsses for reply. No. 171. The Mnifpiis of Sallshury to Mr. Herbert. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Offire, December 5, 1888. WHAT answer from United States' Government as to Behrijig's Sea seizures referred to in my telegram o1" 10th October? No. 172. Mr. Herbert to tlie Mar(juiK of Sallshiiri/. — (Received December 5.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, December u, 1888. IN reply to your telegram of to-day, I have received no answer from United States' Government. Have again asked to-day for a reply. No.lTq. Foreign Ofice to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, December 7, 1888. I.N reply to yonvletler of the i^nl instant, 1 am directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to state to you. for tlie infr.rmation of Socrt'tary Lord Knutsford, that no reply has been returned by the I'nited Stales' (iovornment to the request that they would authorize the reappraisenunt of t!i" Britisli vessels "Grace" and "Dolphin" seized in Eehring's Sea. Mr. Herijert, wiio is in charge of Her ^Fajesty's Legation at Washington, has reported in a telegram, dated the 5th instant, that he had on that day again asked for an- answer from tiie United States' Government. I am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 174. Mr. Herbert to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received December 11.) ^^^ Lonl, Washington, November 30, 1888. '^' H-X^'^E the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your libri^sliip's telegram of tjie '2'2nA, and to 8|ate that Mr. Bayfird, in reply to my communicaf.ioo, that the owners ?^w 888. ilegram owners m of the "Ada" did not object to tlie oii£>inal appraisement, has informed me that the Attorney-General has been made acquainted with their decision. T have, &c. (For M. H. Herbert), . .: (Signed) AllTHUR HERBERT. Xo. 17.'). Mr. Herbert to tfie Mar'fjms of Std'isbury,— {Receive'ii. i)ecp|/i&pr ^4.) My Lord, W^oshinr/loii, DfCeiiilwr 12, 1888. ON the recc'ii)t of your Lordsliip's teloiirfim of the otli instant, I immediately wrote to Mr. Uavard pressiiisf for a reply to Lord Sackville's note of the 12lll bctober on the subject of the re-nppraisemenl of thi^ ISvitisli sealers si>izetl in Behrihg's SeA in 1887, and f liave now received a note from him, copy of whicli with its iiidosures T inclose lierewith, in wliich he states that ho has been informed bv the Attorney-trOitbt'ttl that orders weiv given on the i 4t!i ultimo for (lie sale of tlio vessi'ls lU (juestioii, bilt that he has not yet heard whether the sale has been etfected or jiot. As soon, however, as ho is informed by the Department of Justice lie will duly advlso me as to what has taken place. I have sent a copy of Mr. Bayard's note to tlie Governor-txeneral of Canada. I have, &c. . (Signed) MICHAEL H. HERBEfe'J'. Sir, Inclosiire 1 in No. 175. Mr. Bayard to Mr. Herbert. Defiurtmpnt of Sl(i^«, tVashinytoni December 16, lS^§. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the reecint of your note of the ."ith instant, in which yitu call attentioii to the note of Ijord hackville of the IJtli October last, in relation to the appraisement of three of tlie four British schooners seized and condemned for illicitly taking seals in Behring's Sea in 18S7. 'file note reterrcd to was at once comihuiiicatell to the Department of .iustice with a reipiest ibr jiii opinion on the ([uestion of re-appraisement. SoiiK! lime previously, upon the request of ihc ^laniuis of Salisbury, the sale ot the schooners had Iteen stayed by this Government in oriler that full opportunity mi^ht be given to their owners to make some arraiigemehts thereby they might, become repossessed of the vessels. On the 1 Ith October, the day jirecediug the date of the note of i.onl Sackville above referred to, the Attorney-General wrote to this l)cp;iriniont a letter, copy of wiiicii is inclosed, in which he intimated an opinion that the interests of !)otb the United States and the claimants would he best hubsorved by a speed;; -ale of the \essels. By this letter it appears that, altliougli tiie schooners had long .^iiice been condemiial, no claims had been tiled l>v their owners and no bonds given lor costs. Nevertheless, the Depart- ment again consulted the Department of Justice in regard t() the proposition contained ill the iioti! under date of the liHh October. Under date of the 20tli October last a reply from the Attoriiey-tieiieral was received, copy of which is inclosed. To this I made answer on the 27th October, expressing my cojicnvrence in the view ot the Attorney- General, that, under the circumstances, the wiser course for all concerned was to let the sale of the vessels take place at once, as delay seemed impracticable, and coidd only be productive of loss. On the 14th of last month the Attorney-General inforined that he had that day ilirected the United States' Marshal in charge of the vessels at Port Townsend, Washington Territory, to take the necessary steps to eliect a sale of the four vessels as speedily as possible. Since that time no correspondence on the siibject has taken place with the Depart- ment of Justice except a request from this Department on the 17th ultimo that it might be informed of the proceedings of the Marshal uuder tlie order above stilted. Wheii a response to this request shall have been received you will lie duly advised of its boutents. 1 have, Ike. . >, > (Signed) t. i\ BAYlRb. ii — ' 11 r| i h I itiSki' I i •I 812 . Inclosure 2 in No. 175. Mr, Oar land to Mr. Bayard. Sir, Di'jiiirtiiient oj Junlici; Wanhlnijlitn, Oitober 20, 18S>^. BY your coitimuniciition of the ITtli October, isss, you requested an expression of my views on the arranj^ement proposed hy the British ( iovernment in regard to the disposal of tlie vessels " Grace," "Dolphin," and "Anna Beck." The arrangement refeired to is that tlie United States authorize a re-appraisement of the schooners " Grace " and " Dolphin," and that instructions ho given in the case of the " Anna Beck " tliat homls of the owner may he accepted subject to the final settlement of the question. 'i'he libels against the vessels were submitted on the stipulation, dated the 10th day of September, 1887, by M. W. Drake on behalf of the masters, they were, on or about the 3rd day of October, 1887, after hearing condemned, and in pursuance of the terms of the stipulation, wore ordered to be sold at Port Townsend. The time for appeal to the Supreme Court of the United States has long since expired. On the 26th day of August, 1888, the United States' Marshal for Alaska reported "that the owner of the 'Anna Beck,' 'Grace,' and ' Dolphin,' Captain J. W. Warren, of Victoria, Britisli Columbia, notified me (him) that he prefers that the ' Grace ' and 'Dolphin' sliould l>e sold without further delay, and the 'Anna Beck ' also, unless he can bond that vessel without instituting an iippeal to the Supreme Court, or making the journey to Sitka for that purpose." Tlie aggregate tonnage of the throe vessels, with the " Ada " (for which no owner has been heard froiu), is l)ut 279 tons. The vessels, if not sold, will soon be substantially valueless. If atteuipt be made to keep them over winter a total loss may result. I therefore adhere to the views expressed in my former communication, thtit the interests of all concerned will be best subserved by an early sale, and earnestly hope I may receive a prompt communication from ^ u concurring therein. Very respcx-tfuUy, (Signed) A. H. GARLAND, Attoruey-General. Inclosure 3 in No. 175. Mr. Grant to Mr. Garland. District of Alaska, Attorney-General's Office, Dear Sir, Sitka, September 20, 1888. MARSHAL returned from Port Townsend says no vessel wan bonded, and now the parties have concluded not to bond, and want the sale to go on, hut 1 shall instruct the Marshal to await instructions from you. How long shall I wait for the parties to act: No owners have appeared on the record ; the record does not show who they are. No claims are filed, or bonds for costs given. The cases were submitted on the agreement signed by Mr. Drake for the masters, and on bis demurrer as Representative of Canadian Government. Ycrv ) espectf ully, (,Sigi;od) WHIT. M. GRANT, District Attorney. Inclosure 4 in No. 175. In the District Court of the Territory of Alaska, The United States v, the British Schooners "Dolphin," "Anna Beck," "Grace," and " Ada.' IT is hereby stipulated and agreed upon between the plaintiffs and the masters of the defendant schooners that the demurrer filed in the matter of the information against J. D. Warren, and the agreement there " , shall apply to the libels filed or to be filed against the above vessels. It is further stipulated and admitted as a fact that the masters of the above-named vessels did kill seals during the month of July 1887, in 28S that portion of Uehrinn;'H Sea claimcil by t!ie United States uniier tiie 'I'rcaty of 1867 l)ctween llussia and tlio Unitod States, and beyond the limit of 10 miles from any land. It is further stipulated that in ease the vessels or any of them slmll be condemned, by any order of tlie Court, that the same shall not be sold until the expiration of three months from the publie.ilion of any order orderinjj sui-h sales, and that su<:h sales shall take place at Port 'I'owiisend or some other point on Puget Sound. it is I'urther stipulateii that the defendants may give security for appeal to the Supreme Court of tiic United States, or such other Court as may have jurisdiction, by bonds of any qualilled bondsmen in Washinj^ton 'i'erritory, Oregon, or Caliibrnia. Upon the question of facts thus ajireed upon, the parties submit the cases to the Court upon the law ([uestion raised by the demurrer. On bchair of the Masters of the above schooners. (Signed) M. W. DlJAKE. (Signed) A. K. DELANEY, Attorney for the United Htutes. Heptember 10, 1887. Inclosure 6 in No. 175. Mr. Garland to Mr. Bayard. Sir, Dopfirtmi'iif nf .Jiis/icc, Washiiiijton, October 11. 1888. I HEREWITH inclose copies of eoimnuniciitions received from \\. M. Grant, United States' Attorney for Alaska, from the facts submitted by him in connection with those contained in my letter of the Sflth September. I submit whether it will not be expedient, and for the best interests both of the United States and adverse claimants, if there be such, that the vessels referred to be speedily sold. An answer is desired at your earliest convenience. Very respectfully, (Signed) A. H. GARLAND, Atton'cii-Genend. if I si No. 176. Mr. Herbert to tha Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received January 2S,) My Lord, Washington, January 8, 1889. I HAVE the honour to report that Mr. Hoar introduced a Resolution in the Senate on the 3rd instant , asking for any correspondence that may have taken place with Groat Eritainin r(>i;'iud to the scal-iisheries in or near Behring's Straits, ospocially as to the seizure or release of any Uritisli vessels by tlic United States ; and also askir^g for information as to the Regulations governing the fisheries wliich Ir.ive been adopted by the United States' Government. Mv. Hoar alleges that tliero have l)eeu, and still are, widespread complaints of unjust discrimination made against American vessels in those waters, and that while they .nre not permitted to take seals out at sea, which is perfectly ])ro])cr and right, no interference is made with tho operations of the ves^./^s of other countries, particularly those of Great Britain. This llesolution, which was adopted by the Seiiate, was probably prompted by the reference in the President's Message to a jiroposed arrangement with foreign Powers for the protection of fur-seals in Behring's Sea, which has aroused a good deal of curiosity here. IMie passage in question ran as follows : — " My endeavours to establisli, by international eo-opei-ation, measures for the prevention of the extermination of I'ur-seals in Behring's Sea, have not been relaxed, and 1 have hopes of being enabled shortly to submit an eii'ectivc and satisfactory Conventional project with the Maritime Powers for tho approval of the Senate." 1 will not fail to send your Lordship a copy of the correspondence asked for as soon as it is presented to Congress. I have, &c. (Signed) MICHAEL U. HERBERT. 128] 2 H 1 ,M No. 177. Tlif Mnrqui;i of Snlinbury to Mr. I'ldwanlen. — (Suhntiivre telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign OJ/ire, March 23, ]HH». MY !\(tni<ii)ii lius been cnllcd \o n ♦clci^nitn, dnlcd Wiifliiiv^'ton, tin* 22ii(l IM.irch, wllicli !i|)|ii'!ir('(l in t lie " 'rimes" dl' (u-ilny, to lli(> i'll'('<'l lli.'it rrcNidciii llin'ri.son Ims issiii'd a I'lMclaniMlion wiirniiiLr lori'ii^ii (isliin^-vt'sscls airiiinsi nitcriii^' llic walci'N of Hi'liriiiif's Sea, wdliiii flir doininion of the lliiilfd Stales, tor iiulawi'ul lisliiii},' lor fur-l)i>;irinu; aiiiiiiaiN or wilnioii. I have to r('t|iiest jou to roi)ort, to mo, by tolcprapli, Mie uxaut ti^rms ol' the Proulamution ntlernxl to. I »m, &o. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. I7H. Mr. F.ihvardes to the Marquis of Snlisbury,—{Recein'd hi/ Irlcgraph, March 2U.) My Lord. Washington, March 2«, )88'.l. I llAVK bad the bonour to inform your fiordsliiit to-day. I>y tclefjrnph, that it Proclamation was issued l.'ite ycstonhiy afternoon by the President, warniiif; all personH ajjainst cnteriii;:; the waters of lUdirinij's Soa within the <loniain of tbo United States for tlie purpose of violatinj; tlie provisions <ii' section ll).">(i of the Heviseil SlatnteH reiatini^ t« the killin.i<: of fur-hearing animals, and tiial, if found doing ho, tboy will bu urrcstcd uud their vessels, apparel, &c., will be seized. 1 have, &c, (Si-ned) H. (J. EDWAKDE8. No. 179. Mr. Edwardcs to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Itcceiiied by telegraph, March 23.) My Lord, Washington, March 23, 1889. IN obcdicnec to your Lordsbip's instrnctioiifl rccoivod in your tclcf,'r.nni of to-day's date, I bad the iionour to send to von. ii\ l(dei;i;i)ili, the exact lernis of the Trcsideiit's Procl.amation issued yestord.ay afternonn, which lie issued under tlie authority f^nintcd to bini by the Act of tbo 2nd Jlareli, 1JS89, |)rovidiiiu; for tbo protection of tlio salmon fisheries of Alaska. This rroclamaiion. copies of wbicli I h;ive the bonour to iiulose, iv.nrns all persons against violating- (be laws of the Utiiled Stntes in the w.iters of .l{ebrtnf»'s Sea, with regard to killing fur-bearing ;ininials, tiu' p(<nally for such violation being arrest of person and seizure and couliscation of vessels, apparel, &<;. I have, &c. (Signed) n. G. EDWARDES. Inclosuro in No. 179. Extract from the " Washington Post " of March 23, 1889. Alaska without a Goveknou. — A PuocLAiiATroN ueoakuing Fuii-deakinq Animals and Salmon. — CJovernor A. 1*. Swineford sonxe tiin(! since wrote out his resiguatiou as tjoveruor of Alaska, and sent it to the Interior Department, wbero it rem.iins unacted upon. Since then the Governor Avrote that be should leave iVlaska for homo on the Gth March, so that ho is now out of the territory, and Alaska is without an executive head. The following Proclamation was issued late yesterday afternoon ; — A Proclamation. By the President of the United States. The following provisions of the Laws of the United States are hereby published for the information of all concerned : — 230 Section IDno Revisrd StnliilcH. clinptrr «, titio 23, nmiU thnt— No |)(!rs(m sliivll kill any niter, mink, iiiarteii, .salde, or I'lir HenI, or other fiir- bc.'iiiiej; .•miiiinl, williiii tlie liinilvi <it' AImsKm t'lrilnrv, or in tlu; waters I liereof ; and eviM'y persiiii ;;iiilly tliereol' shall, lor caeli olVenets lie lined nol, Icnh than ^IH) ilollai'H, nor more than 1,111)0 (ioilars, or imiirisoned not more than siv tnonlhs, or liolli; and all ressels, their tackle, apiiarcl. I'nriiilnre, and earj^o, I'mind e.n^^a^cil in \iolationoi' thiH (notion shall h(! I'orleited ; hnl the Seerelnry ol' tin; 'IVeasurv siiall liavo [lowt^r to iwilliorii^e the killini^ of any xneh mink, marten, salile, or other rnr-henrin^^ animal, except for Heals, nndi>r Hmdi n-Lfnlations as ,ie may preserihe, and il shall In- Ihe dnty of tiiii Secretary to prevent the killin'; oj' any liir seal, and to proviflo I'or (he cxccnlioti ol'tiie provisions of this section until it is otiierwise jirovidcd liy law, nor shall he f^rant. any special privileu'cs under this .section. Section ;t ol' the Act entitled " An Act to jiro' ide Tor the |)rolertion of ihe Salnum Fisheries of Alaska," apiirovcd Ihe Jnd March, IH'Hit, provith-s that — Section ll(r)(l of Ihe Uexiscil .Statides of the United Slati's is hend)y dcM-lared to iliehiile and apply to all lh(> dominion of Ihe Iriiled Stat4)H in the waters ol' jlehrint^''s Sen, and it siiall lie Ihe dnly of the I'nsidcnt ;it a timely si-ason in e;ich year to issue his I'roelamatiMn, and (muscIIk; . aine to hi; pidilishcd i'or one month at least in one mnv^paper (if ;iny sneh there; lie) puhliiihcd ;ii ejich llnileil Slates' port ol'enlry on llio I'liciiic: (Jo.asI, w.'irnin!^ .all persons ji-iiiinst enli-riii!^ sneh waters for the pMr|K)se of violatiny; the provisions of said section, and he shall also cause oim> or rn'H'e of the vessels M the llnileil Slates lo ililii,'enlly erni/.e s.aid w.ileis, .anil .•inisl ail persons and seize all vessels found lo he or lo h.-ive heen cn^tafjied in any violation of the LavvH of the l]nit((d Btttles therein. Now, therefore 1, IJenjamin Harrison, President of the United Htates, purmiant to the ahoV(> reeit<'d Slalutes, lie.'ehy w.arn .all ]ier«ons a-^ainst entcrinf< the waters of Bchrin';''s Sea wilhin the il(,n;'iin ( f Ihe United States for the jiurpose of violatinj^ tl|0 provisions of said section l!).'i"> \(;vised Slatufes, and I hereby proeiaim that all j)ci ons i'ouml to he or lo have l)ei n en;,'a{;ed in .any viol.ation of the Laws of the Unit(;d Stntes in said w.alers will he arresled and punished as above provided, and that all vessels so (imph)yed, their laekle, ai'narel, furniture, and earjj'oes, will bo weized and f.'feited. In te.stirnony wliereof, I have hereunto set my liand and cauKC(| tho spal of tlin (Mileil Slates to hi; ailixed. Done at the city of W^ashinj^jton. this 2]Ht day of March, 1H8!), and of the lnd(!- pendenee of Ihe United Slat<!s the lUJIh. (.Si(?ned) IJENJ. HAllRISON. ]Jy the I'rosident, (Sis?ne(l) .Iamks G. IJi^aine, Sfcrelarij of State. Sailinf? orders have been sent to the United States' steamer "Thetis" ,it the Mare Island iS'avy Yard to proceed to Sitka, touchijj^ rn roulc at sneh i)lacos an her comniandiiiL,' ollicer may deem Jiecessary. When she arrives at Sitka and f:ommuiu- cates with the civil authorities she will, if the situation is (puet, and her |)resenc(! there is not n;(inired, continue on northward, and devote attention particularly to th(! wlialinf^ Meet and to other eonimereial interests of the Uidt(;d States in the waters about J?eh ring's Straits and the Arctic 0(!ean. As the whalin!^ vessels usually le.avi; the Arctic in tlus latter y)art of September, the presence of the " 'I'lietis " until then will add security to those eni,'aj,'ed in that ini|)ortant industry, and the "Thetis" will remain until they have taktm their departure southward, taking care not to be caught in the ice. She will return to Sitka and await further instructions. No. 180. Colonial Office to Foreign Office,— {Received March 26.) Sir, Downing Street, March 26, 1889. I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to request that you will call the attention of the Marquis of Salisbury to the accompanyint^ copy of a tclej^rara from Wasbin^on which appeared in the " Times " of the 23rd instant. As the Canadian sealing-vessels will shortly be proceeding to the sealinc^-grounds [128] * ■ 2 H a in Bcliring's Sea, Loi'd Knutsford woulc' Ixi jflad if Lord Jialisiiury Avould tolei^'mpli to Her IMajcsty's Cliarg6 d'AlFaires n1 \Va;.iiingtou to ascertain whether the statement in the telegram is correct. J am to suggest also that Mr. Her])ert should, at the same time, bo instructed, if the statement is correct, to inform the United States' Government that Tier jMajesty's Government cannot requir<! the masters of British vessels, when fishing in Eehrini;'v Sea beyond the o-niile limit, to recognize the Laws of the United States. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. ■<\t M |! j},l luclosure in No. 180. The Alaska Fisheries, Wiidhivcjifm, March 22. PRLSiDENT HARETSON has issued a Proclamation, wai'uing foreign lishing- vessels .".gainst entering the waters of liohring's Sea, within the dominion of the United States, for unlawf; ' lishing for fur-bearing animals or salmon. No. 181. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, March 30, 1889. I HAVE laid before the Marquis of Salisbury your letter of the 2Gth instaut, calling attention to i\ telog)'am Avhich appeared in the " 'I'imes " of the 2!5rd instaut respecting the Proclamation by the President of the Unite' States in regard to the seal-fisheries in .Behring's Sea and sug';es1ing that a representation should bu made to the United States' Government on the subject. His Lordship directs nu; to state, for Lord Knutsford's information, that it is proposed to defer any action in the mattor until the receipt of the Act for the protection of salmcn in Alaska, uhicli is now on its way from Washington. I am, <fcc. (Signed) P. CUllEIE. No. 182. Mr, Fdwardes to the Marquis of Salisbicry. — (Received April 1.) My Lord, Washington, March 15, 1885). I HAVE the honour to state that, having heard privately frn i a ]\Iember of (he House of Commons, who has lately been travelling in Canada, that the sale of the tlu-ee seized British sealers was ordered to t,)ke place on the 2oth instant, I tele- graphed to the Governor-General of Canada (eo))y of ti^legrnin inclosed) to inquire whether the owners of those vessels were willing to l)ond their sl-.ips, and lliat, if so, I would endeavour to procure from the United States' raithorities a, postponement of the sale. In the meantime, I leamt privately that if I addressed such an application to tlk^ Ur'ted Staves' Government, the r^olieitor-G . , eral, to whom it would bc^ referred, tlic matter liaAing lieeu under consideration in his I)opartm(!ut, would at once orcior a postponement. 1 received last night a tcilegram (copy inclosed) from Lord Stanley of Preston, informing me that the Canadian Minister of Marine is not of opinion that any intcr\-ention on the part of Her Majesty's Legation at; this moment would ho of Viilue. The o\v-ners of the vessels wore not willing to lioud at the valuation made by the L'nited States' authorities, and the late Administration had refused to allow a revaluation. consequently, retrain from action in the matter without further I shall instructions. I have, &c. (Signed) W. G. RDWARDE8 237 Inclosure 1 in No. 182. Mr. Edwardes to Lord Stanleij of Preston. (Tcl(\i^r;ipliic.) Washington, March 8, 18S9. i II AVE loarnt from private source that the three seized British sealers are to be scld on the 2Gth instant. 1 might endeavour to ^ itain a postponement of the sale if the owners are willing to bond their vessels. Inclosure 2 in No. 182. Lord Stanley of Preston to Mr. Edwardes. March 12, 1889. YOUR telegrana of the 8th March. Minister of AFariue does not think that any interference just now would be of any value. Owners of vessels will not bond at present valuation, and request for revalua- tion was refused by late Government. No. 183. Mr. Edwardes to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received April 1.) My Lord, Washington, March 18, 1889. I HAVE the honour to inclose to your Lordship herewith a copy of a Bill wliich has become Jaw, providing; for the proi,"ctiou of the salmon fisheries of Alaska. I havo thoui'ht it Avorthy of traus.nission on account of section 3 of the Act wliif^h might postibly be quoted in connection with the seizure of sealers in the Belir.iag's Sea. I have, &c. (Signed) H. G. EDWARDES. Inclosure in No. 183. [Public— No. 158.] W( An Act to provide for the Protection of the Salmon Hsheries of Alaska. EE it enacted, by the Senate and Uouse of Representatives p' the United States of America, in Congress asseinb](>d, That the erection of (buns, ])nrricades, or other obstructions to any of the rivers of Alaska, with the pur2)ose or result of preventing or impeding the ascent of salmon or ()ther anadronious species to their spawning grounds, is hereby doclavcd to bu unlawful, and tlie .Secretary of the Treasury is hereby authorized and directed to establish such regulations and surveillance as may be necessary to insure that this prohibition is strictly onl'orcod, and to otlierwiso protect the salmon fisheries of Alaska ; and every jiersou wlio shall lie Found guilty of a violation of the provisions of tliis section shall be fined not loss than 250 dollars for each day of the continuance of such obstruction. See. 2, That the Commissioner of Eish and Fisheries is hereby empowered and directed to institute an investigation into the habits, abundance, and distribution of the salmon of Alaska, as m"o11 as tbo present conditions and methods of the fisheries, with a view of recommending to Congress such additional legislation as may be necessary to prevent the im])airment or exhaustion of these valuable fisheries, and placing them under regular and permanent conditions of production. Sec. 3. That section T.).")6 of the Revised Statutes of the United States is hereby declared to include; and apiily to all tlie dominion of the LTnited States in the waters of Behiing's Sea ; and it shall be the duty of the President, at a timely season in each year, to issue bis Proclamation, and cause the same to be published for one month in at least one iu;wspa])er, if any such there ho published at each Uiiited States' port of entry 938 on the Pacific coast, warning all persons against lontering said watei's for the purpose of violating the provisions of said section; and lie shall also cause one or inore vessels of the United States to diligently cruise said waters and arrest all persons, and seize all vessels found to be, or to have l)eeu, engaged in any violation of the Laws of the United States therein. Approved March 2, 1 889. No. 18k Foreign OjHce to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, April 4, 188!), I AM directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to transmit, for the information of Secretary Lord Knutsford, a copy of a despatch from Mi-. Ed^-ardcs, Uer Majesty's Charge d'AIVaires at \V'asliinglon,* on the question of tlie sale of tlie three Erilisli vessels seized by the United Slates' authorities iu ISS7 when engaged in seal lishiug in Behring's Sea, and I am to request that you will move his Lordship to furnish Lord Salisbury with any observations he may have to olFer on Mr. Edwardes' d(!spateh. I am, &c. (Signed) T. H. SANDERSON. No. 185. Mr. Edwardes to tlie Marquis of Salishury. — {Received April .5.) (Extract.) Washington, March 25, 1889. I 1IAVI5 the honour to transmit to your Lordshi]) herewith extracts of tlie correspondencic which has been published in response to a Senate Resolution of tlic 2nd January, 1889, upon the si-al lislnnnes in Behring's Sea. ' ■* Inclosure in No. 185. Si/mcfxfroiii' Pari IV of the Message from tlie President of the United Statci of Fehvuarij 12, 18811, b^th Congress, 2nd Session, Ex. Doc. No. 10(!. Mr. Poletica to Mr. Adams. (Translation.) Washington, January 30 {Fchrnai-y 11), 1822. THE (JniliT.simied, Envoy E.xtraoniinnry and j\rini.stei' Plunipotoiitiary of His Majesty tlic Einperur of All ihc liussias, iu consuquunco of orde wliicli liavo lately reatlieJ liini, ha.steii.'i horcwitli to tiMn.«niit to Mr. Adams, Sui-retary of State in the Department of I'oreign Affairs, n jirinti'd copy nl' llio liegiilalions adoiiti-d liy llio Itussiaii-Anierican Company, and sanelioucd by llis Iniiierial JMaje.sty, relative to foreign eonimerce in the waters bordering the establi.sluuents of the said Company on tlm iiortii-wesl coast of America. The Under.-iigned conceives it to be, moreover, his duty to inform Mr. Adara.s that the Imperial (iovernnieut. in adoi)ting the ftegnlation, .supj)0.se3 that a foreign ship, which siiall have sailed t'roni ii Juiri)pean jiort after llie, 1st ilarch, 1.^2:',, or from oue of the |)orts()f tin; United States after tlic 1st July lit' the same vear, cannot hiwfuUy protend ignorance of the-:'' new measures. The Undersigned, \-c, (■^igued) I'lEltliE i)E POLETICA. luclosure 1. £dict of His Imperial MajfMy, Autocrat of All the Miissins. TlfE directing Senate niaketh known unto all men : Whereas in an Edict of His Imperial Majesty issued to the directing Senate on the 4th day of Septendier. and signed ly His !Majc> s own hand, it is tlms e.xpressed : — " (llisei\ing, IVom IJeiuirts s\ilimitied to ns, tliat liu^ trade of our sulijeets on the Aleutian Island.'' and on the nortii-wesr coast of America, ap]U)rt:(iin'!ig ur.to Kiissia, is sulijcel, because of secret ami illicit tratlic, to oppression and impediments ; and tiudiiig tliat I lie lU'tneijial canse of these dittieullius is the want of liuhs estalilishing tlie boniidarics lor navigation along these coasts, and llie onlci' nf Uiivivl eo|umi|uieatioii, as well iu tlieau places as lai the wjude of the ea.stern con.st of Siberia and llu' • No. 182. for uuiv Kurile Islands, we have ileemed it necessary lo determine these communications by specilic liCijTilations, which are liereto attached. '' In forwarding these Requlatious to the directing Senate, we command that the same be published luiveraal information, ami that tlio proper incasures be taken to carry them int(j execution." (Signed) Count D. GlJl'dllF, Minister of Fitmnccs. It is therefore decreed by the directing Senate that His Imperial JIajesty's Edict be published for the infiirnuition ol'tdl men, imd that tlie .same be ob(^yed by all whinii it may concern. [The ori,L;inal is sipied by thi; dirivtiiiL; Senate.] I'rhited at St I'etersburgh. In the Semite, the Ttli .Septendier, 1821. [On the oiitjinal is written, in the handwriting of His luiperiid Majesty, thus :] Be it accordingly. (Signed) ALEXANDiH. Kamcnnoy Ostroff, September 4, 1821. Inclosure 2. Hides established for the Limits of Navigation, and Order of Communication along tlie coast of the Eastern Siberia, tlie jiorth-western coast of America, and the Aleutian, Kurilc, and otiwr Islands. SECTION 1. The pursuits of commerce, wlialing, and fishing, and of all otlier industry, on all islands, ports, and gulfs, including the whole nf the i,orth-west ooaat of America, beginning from Eehring's Strait to the 51st degree of nortliern latitude ; also I'roni the Aleutian Islands to the eastern coast iif Sibi.'ria, a'i well as ahnig tlu' Kurile Islands from I'lchring's Strait to the south cape of the Island 'if Uruj), viz., to 45° 50' uortlu-rii hititude, are exclusively gratited to lUissian subjects. Sec. 2. It is therefore prohibited to all foreign vessels not only to land on the coasts and islands belonging to Ilussia, as stated above, but also to approach them within less than lUO Italian miles. The transgressiir's ve.ssel is subject to confiscation along with the whole cargo. Sec. 3. An exception to this rule is to be made in favour of vessels carrietl thither by heavy gales, or real want of provisions, and unable to make any other shores but such as belong to Kussia ; in these cases they are obliged to produce convincing ]iroofs of actual reason for such an exception. Ships of friendly Governments, merely on discoveri<'s, are likewise exempt from the foregoing Hide (section 2). In this case, however, they must previously be provided with passports from the Itussian Minister of the Navy. • • • « » 4 Mr. Adanis to Mr. Poletica. Sir, Department of State, IFashi'iigton, February 25, l82;l. I HAVE tlie honour of receiving your note of the 11th instant, inclosing a printed copy f)f the Eegulalions adopted by the Iiussian-Aiuerican Company, and .sanctioned by Jlis Imperial Majesty, reliUiiig to the coinnierce of fdivignev.s in the waters bordering on the establishments of that Company upun the noilh-west coast of America. I all! directed by the I'resideut of (he United Stales lo iufonu you that he has seen with surprise, ill this Edict, the i!.sserti(jn of a territorial claim on the part of Euosia, extending to the 51st degree of north latitude on this continent, and a Itegulation interdicting to all cunimcrcial vessels other than Russian, ujioii the jienalty of seizure and ccmliscation, the ap])roacli upon tlie high seas within 100 Italian miles of the shores to which that claim is made to apply. The relations of the United States with His Imperial Majesty have always been of the most friendly character, and it is the earnest desire of this ftovernnicnl to preserve them in that slate. It was expected, before any act whicli slioidd define tin; boundary between the territories of the United States and liussia on this contiiu:nt, that the same would have been arranged by Treaty between the parties. To exclude the vessels of (jur citizens from the shore beyond the ordinary distance to which the territorial jurisdiction e.xtends, has excited still greater suriirise. This Ordinance aflec'ts so deeply the rights of the United States and of their citizens that 1 ani instnicted to iiaiuire wlicther you are authorized lo give exiilanations of the grounds of right, upon principles generally recoguined by the laws and usages of nations, wldch can wari'ant the claims and Regulations contained in it. I avail, &o. (Signed) JOHN QUINCY ADAMS. Mr, Poletica to Mr. Adams. Washington, Febniari/ 28, 1822. MI?. POLETICA replied on the 28th of the same month, and, aftiir giving a stinimar)- of historical lUcidents which seemed to him to establish the title of Russia to the territories in iiuestion liy lirst discovery, said : — " I shall be more succinct. Sir, in the ox])osition of the motives which determined the Imperial fiovernment to jirohiliit Ibreign vessels from aii]iroacliing the nortli-west coast of America behinging to Kussia within the distance of at h'ast lut) Italian miles, This measure, however severe it may at lirst upjicar, is, after all, but a measure of prevention. It is exclusively direcled against the eiilpable enterprises of foreign adventurers, who, not content with exercising upon the coasts above mentioned 1^^ ! I !f i ! I 240 an illicit trade very prejudicial to tlio rights reserved cutiiely t<> IIil^ Iiussimi-Aiiiuricau Cmnjiiiny, lako upon them besides to furnish arms and auiiiiunitiou to Uu,' natives in the Kussian iMwsessiuiis in AJnerica, exciting them lilccwise in every manner to resist and revolt against the authorities there established. "The American Uovernment doubtless recollects that the inegular conduct ol" these advenlurors. the majority of whom was composed of American citizens, has been llic nlijiu't of the nmst jjies'iiiii; remonstrances on the part of llussia to tlie .{''ederal (ioveriiuicut troiu the time tliat l)ipl(iMuitic Missions were organized between the countries, 'i'lie.se rcmonslniiices, repeated at liill'crenl time: remain constantly without efl'ect, and the inconveniences to which they ought In bring a ivnioih' continue to increase " i ought, in the last place, to reiiuost you tn consider, Sir, tliiil llie. Iliissian possessions in liir Pacific Ocean c.vtend, on tlie north-west coast of iVmeriea, IVoiii iieliring's Slniit to the .5lst degree '^f north latitude, and oji the opposite side of Asia and the islands a<ljaeenl, fiMio tlie same strait to the 45th degree. The extent of sea of which these ])ossessioMs furm the limits cijm])reheuds all the conditions which are ordinarily iittaehed In shut seas ('■ iiiers ferniees "'), and the liiissiau Giivernmvat might consequently judge itself authorized tn exercise u]ion this sea the right of sovereignty, nail especially that of entirely interdicting the entrance nf furcigiievs. I'.ut it preferred (aily asserting \[-, essential rights without taking any advantage of localities." M): Adu'ins to Mr. Polelim. Sir, Department of l^tntc, Washiwiton, March, 30, 1822. I HAVE had the honour of receiving your letter of the 28th ultimo, which has been submitted to the consideration of the President of the United States. From the deduction which it contains of the grounds upon which Articles nl' Regulation of tlio Russian-American Company have now, for the hrst time, exteiided the claim of Kussia on the nnvtli- west coast of America to tiio 51st degree of ncnth latitude, its only I'oundatinn ii|ippais tn be the existence of the small Settlement of Xovo Archaiigelsk, situated, not on the Anieiican conliiieii!, but upon a small island in latitude 57° ; and the principle upon which you state that this claim is now advanced is that the 51st degree is ecpiidistant from the Settlement of Novo Archangcdsk and tlie establishment of the United States at the mouth of the Columbia I'iver. But, from tli(! same ■■tatp- ment, it appears that, in the j'car 1799, the limits jirescriboel hy the Emperor Paul to the Itussian- American Company were fi" 1 at the 55th degree nf latitude, and that, in assuming now the latiiaile 57°, a new pretension is asserted, to which no settlement made since the year 17'.)0 has given tlir colour of a sanction. This pretension is to be con.sidered not only with I'eference to the question of territorial right, Inn also to that jirohibition to the vessels of other nations, incliuling thos(! of the United States, to ajipioaeh within 100 Italian miles of the coasts. From the porioil of tlie existence of the United States as mi independent nation, their vessels have freely navigated thost^ seas, and the right to navigate them is a part of that inde]ieiidence. With regard to the suggestion that the Russian (iovernment might have juslilicd the exercise nt sovereignty over the Pacilic Ocean as a close sea, because it claims territory both (Mi its American ami Asiatic shores, it may sutVice to say that the distiuice from shoir to shore on this sea, in latitude 51 north, is not less than 'M degrees of longitude, or 4,000 miles. As little can the United States accede to the justice of the reason assigned for the jivnliibiiimi above mentioned. 'I'lie right of the citizens of tin? United States to hold commerce with the abovi;_:iii,il natives of the north-west coast of America, witlmut the t'Srvitorial jurisdiction of otlier nations, even in arms and munitions of war, is as clear and inilispi, table as that of navigating the seas. That right \\a' never been exorcised in a .s])irit unfriendly tn Russia; and, although geneial comidaints have occasionally been made on the subject of this commerce by some of yourprcdee<'ssofs, nosiieeificgiMuail of charge has ever been alleged by them of any trao'^aclion in it which llie United Slates were, li\ the ordinary laws and usages of u:itions, bound either tn i(>slrain oi' tn )aniisli. Had a'ly sui'li charge been made, it would have received the most pointed attention nf this tJuvenniient, with the sinceresl iiiiil firmest disposition to iierfnrm evi'rv act and obligation of justice tn yours which cnuld have Ik'cii required, lam commanded by the. President of the United Stales to assure yon that Ibis dis|Hisiliiiii ■will continue to be (iutertained, together with the earnest desire that the harmonious relations between the two countries may be pr(.'served. Relying U]i(ai the assurance in your note of simdar dispositions rociiirocally (Milertaiiicd by Hi- Iraperial Majesty towanis the United States, the President is ])ersuaded that the ( itizcus of I hi-- rnioii will remain unmolested in the ))rosecution of their lawful conimercc, and that no ell'eet will !"■ given to an interdiction manifestly incompatible with their rights. J am, &.L\ (Sigia-Ml) .lOUN OUI^'(•^• ADAMS. Mr. Poletica to Mr. Adams. (Extract.) Wn^hington, April 2, 1822. MR. POLI'-TICA replied on the 2nd April following, .and after again endeavouring to prove the title of Russia to the north-west coast of America, from Pehring's Straits to the 51st degree of north latitude, said : — " In the same manner the great extent of the Pacilic Ocean at the 51st degree of laiilmli' cannot invalidate the right which Russia may have of considering that part of the ocean ns close. Uut ,;s the >^.. 241 Imperial Governmont has not thought fit to take advautnge of tliat right, all further discussion on tliis subject would be idle. " As to the right claimed for the citizens of the United States of trading with the natives of the country of the north-west coast of America, without the limits of the jurisdiction belonging to Russia, the Imperial Government will not certainly think of limiting it, and still loss of attacking it there." Mr, Adams to Mr. Middlekm. (Extract.) Department of State, Washington, Jiily 22, IS'JIi. FKOM the tenour of the Ukase of the 4th (IGth) September, 1821, the pretensions of the Imperial Governmciit extend to nn exclusive territorial jurisdiction from the 45th degree of north latitude, on the Asiatic coast, to the latitude of 51" north on tiio western coast of the American continent ; and they assume the right of interdicting tlie navigation and fishery of all other nations to the extent of 100 miles from the whole of that coast. The United States can admit no part of these claims. Their right of navigation and of fishing is perfect, and has been in constant exorcise from the earliest times, after the Peace of 178.3, througliout the whole extent of the Southern Ocean, subject only to the ordinary exceptions and exclusions of the territorial jurisdictions, which, so far as Kussian rights are concerned, are confined to certain islands uorth of the 55th degree of latitude, and have no existence on the Continent of America. AT the fourth Conference which preceded the .signature of the Treaty of tlie 5th (17th) April, 1824, Mr. Middleton, the United States' Representative, submitted to Count Nesselrode the following paper : — "(Translation.) " The dcmiinion cannot be acquired but by a real occupation and possession, and an intention (• animus ') to establish it is by no means sufficient. " Now, it is clear, according to the facts estal)lished, that neither Russia nor any other European Power has the right of dominion upon the continent of America between the 50th and GOth degrees of uorth latitude. " Still less has she the dominion of the adjacent maritime territory, or of the sea which washes these coasts, a dominion which is only accessory to the territorial dominion. " Therefore she has not the right of exclusion or of admission on these coasts, nor in these seas, which are free seas. " The right of navigating all the free seas belongs, by natural law, to every independent nation, and even constitutes an essential part of this independence. " The United States have exercised navigation in the seas, and commerce upon the coasts above uientioned, from the time of their ir.dcpeudence ; and they have a perfect riglit to this navigation and to tiiis commerce, and they can onl/ be deprived of it by their own act or by a Convention." Extract from Convention of April 5 (17), 1824. ARTICLE I. It is agreed t iiat, in any part of the great ocean, commonly called the Pacific Ocean or South Sea, the respective citizens or subjects of the High Contracting Powers .shall be neither dis- turbed nor restrained, either in navigation or in fishing, or in the power of resorting' to the coasts, upon points which may not already have been occupied, for the purpose of trading with the natives, saving always the restrictions and conditions determined by the following Articles. Art. 11. With a view of preventing the rights of navigation and of lisliing exercised upon the great ocean by the citizens and subjects of the High Contracting Powers from becoming the pretext for au illicit trade, it is agreed that the citizens of the United States shall not resort to any point where tlu'iv is a Russian establislunent, without the permission of the Governor or Coinniander ; and that, i'i'ei])rocally, the subjects of Russia shall not resort, without permission, to any eslulilisliincnt of the l.'niled States upon the north-west coast. Art. III. It is moreover agreed that, hereafter, there shall not be formed by the citizens of the United States, or under tlie autliority of the said States, any establishment upon the north-west coast of America, nor in any of the islands adjacent, to the north of 54° 40' of north latitude ; and that, in the same manner, there shall be none formed by Ru.-.'sian subjects, or under the autliority of Russia, .siiulh ul' the .same jiavallel. Alt. IV. P is nevertheless niiderstood that, during a term of ten year.s, counting from the signature III' the ]iri'sent Convention, the ships of both Powei.s, or which belong to their citizens or subjects, i'c'S|ii'('tiv('ly, may reciprocally l're(pu'nt, without any hiiidnuice whatever, the interior sea-s, gulfs, liaihiinrs, and creeks u])on the coast mentioned in the preceding Article, for the purpose of Hshing and tiacHng witli the natives of the country. Mr. Forstjth to Mr. Dallas. «ir, Dqiartmcnt of State, Washington, May 4, 1837. 1 REGRET to have occasion so soon again to advert to a subject connected with the claims of the Lfuited States to the right of trading with tlie natives of the country, and of fishing on the north-west ;i t rl .V. '■■;, , 'v. t-I '-- [1281 2 I il 242 coast of this continent. Ton will perceive from n penisal of the accompanyiiiR pnpern that the expiration of the IVth Articl* of the Convention of 1824 wiih Russia is not unlikely to be attended witii (lilliniltiea to our citizens frequenting that coast in ptirauit of lawful objects. The leuding features of the case, to which your attention is now invited (the particulars of wliicii are more fully detailed in the inclosed copy of a letter, dated the :J4th November last, from J. C. Jones, Consul of the United States iit tiio Sandwich Islands, to tiiis Department, and of the ])rotest to which it refers), are aa follows : — The American brifi" Loriot," Blifin, master, sailed from the port of Oahu on the 22nd Anpust liwt, bonnd to the north-west coast of America, for tlie ]iur))oso of pn)curinH Jirovisions, and also Indians to hunt for sea-otter on the saiil coast. It appears that she r- ,d;) the land callwl Forrester's Island on the 14th September Ibllowinj,', and on the ISth anchored in the harbour of Tuck(!ssan, latitude 54" 55' north, and longitude 132" 'MY west; that on the 18th a Russian armed brig arrived in the harbour of Tatcskey, latitude 54" 45' north, and longitude Ki2" 55' west; that on tlie succeeding day tiie " Loriot " was boarded by oflicers from the Russian brig, who ordered the captain of the American vessel to leave the dominions of His Majesty the Eiu|)eror of liussia ; that Captain IJlinn then repaired on board the Russian brig, where tiio same oiilers were re,i(!ated to him by the Commander ; that im the 20tli and 23rd days of the same mouth these orders were reiterated ; that on the 25th the " Loriot" was boaiiled by two armed Ixiats from the Itiissian brig, and directed to get under way and proceed to the harbour of Tateskey ; tliat on llie 27tli liie armed boats again boariled the American brig, and compelled the captain to j)roceed to Tntijskey ; tliat wlieii ofl' that place, tlie weatiujr lieing tlireateuiiij,', permission was a.sked of liie Ifussian Commmuler to enter tlus harbour with the " Loriot," which reipiest was denied, and Captain llliin was again ordered to leave the waters of Ills Imperial Majesty; and that Captain itlinn, being pi-evented from procuring su))i)iie3 or necessaries for iiis vessel, and from obtaining any Indians (lor the purpose of hunting sea-otter), was finally obliged to abandon his voyaj^o and return to tlie Sandwich Islands, where ho arrived on the 1st Noveiidter of tiio same year. The iiarbours designated in Cajitain lilion's protest by the names of Tuckesijan and Tateskey arc not laid down on any Map to wliicli I have referred, and tiie Department has no knowledge of any Ilu.ssian establishments having been formed on the north-west coast or adjacent islands in or about the latitude given for tlieso places. It will, therefore, be proper to iwcertain whether there are, in fact, Uussian Settlements at the points designated, and, if so, you are authorized to make a representation of the whole subject to His Imperial Majesty's Goveinment, comjdaining of the proceeding.i in relation to the " Loriot," which are supjiosed to '..ave been unautborizedly instigated by the Russian American Fur Company, and slating that the Tresidcnt cannot but regard tli' act a.s one of a most unfrieiuUy character, as the United States have had no ollicial or other notic< f the existence of such ostabli.sli- ments, and have not, although an application has long since been made for them, ever been furni.shed by the Russian Government with thu Regulations, consequent on the expiration of the IVth Article of the Convention, proposed to be applied to American vessels resorting to Russian Settlements on that coast. On the other hand, should there prove to be no Russian establi-shments at the places mentioned, this outrage on the " Loriot " lussumes a still graver aspect. It is a violation of the right of the citizens of the United States, immemorially exercised and secured to them as well by the law of nations as by the stipulations of the 1st Article of the Convention of 1824, to tisli in those seas, and to resort to the coast I'nr the jirijsccution of tlieir lawful connnerce upon points not already occupied. As such, it is the Presidents wish that you should remonstrate, in an earnest but respectful tone, against this gmundless assunq)tioii of the Russian Fur Company, and claim from His lm|ierial Majesty's Government for the owners of the brig " Loriot," for their losses and for the damages they have sustained, such indemnilicatiou as may, on an investigation of the case, be found to be justly due to them. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN FORSYTH. Mr. Forsyth to Mr. Dallas. (Extract.) Department of Stale, Washinjton, Novemhcr 3, 1837. WITII reference to your remarks regarding the proper construction of the Convention of April 1824 between the United States and Russia, the 1st Article of that instrument is only declaratory of a right which the parties to it possessed, under the law of nations, without (.'onventional stipulations, to wit, to navigate and lish in the ocean upon an unoccupied coast, and to resort to such coast for tl'.e purpose of trading with the natives. No. 186. Mr. Edwardes to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received April G.) My Lord, Washington, March 23, 1889. WITH reference to mv despatcli of the 18th instant, to my telegram of tlie 23rd instant, to your Lordship's fclo£»ram of the 23rd instant, and to my tele- gram of the same day, I liavc the lionour to report that the Proclamation issued on the afternoon of the 22nd instant hy the President, declarin<» that all persons entering the waters of Behring's Sea within the domain of the United States for the M8 1837. of April .tory of a atioiiH, to for tl'.e 1889. of tlic ly tele- issued persons for the purpose of killing fur-bearing animals, or of violating Regulations to bo made with regard to the salmon fisheries of Alaska, shall b<i arrested and their vessels, &c., seized, has been issued on the power given to him by the " Aet to provide for the proteetion of the salmon fisheries in Alaska." Copy of this Act was inclosed in my desjjatch of the 18th instant, and was one of the last Acts which was passed in the closing hours of Congress. The Bill originated in the Senate wiiere it was passed, after having been reduced to sections 1 and 2 of the present Act, and in tliat condition sent to tlic Ilouse. At that time there was before the House another Hill of similar import, which had been referred back from the Committee of Merchant Marine and fisheries, and was waiting to bo reached. When the Senate Hill came up before the House section 3 was added to it as an amendment, which ainendment the House inttmded to take the place of their Jiill, the pas"'ng of which was evidently impossible on accoimt of want of tim(\ The Senate refused to accept the Houro amendment, and the IJill was accordingly referred to a Conference, the result of whoso action was its acceptance at tlu; last hour by both Houses. I am told that the President's approval and signature wen; really only obtained on Sunday, the 3rd instant, but as that day is not a legal day, the approval is dated the 2nd instant. Like many other Acts, it was hurried through the Legislature in its last hours without any but its immediate instigators having any knowledge of its scope or oven of its elTect, and there can be no doubt but that the House amendment to the Senate ]}ill, that is to say, section 3, has been the work of those interested in the Alaska Fur-seal Company. The President has lost no time in making use of the authority it has given him, by issuing the Proclamation which appeared yesterday, one of the objects of which is to again assert the claim of the United States to dominion over the Bcliring's Sea, which claim the United States' Government denied when it was put for^vard by the Russian Government by the Imperial Ukase of the 14th (IGth) September, 1821. The Proclamation may also deter American and Canadian iishcrmen from engaging in seal fishing in the open waters of the Behring's Sea this season. Section 1956 of the Ilevised Statutes provides for the punishment of persons killing fur-bearing animals without the authorization of the Secretary of the Treasury (the taking of seals being still further restricted) " within the limits of Alaska Territory, or in the waters thereof." Section 3 of the Act of the 2nd March, 1889, extends section 1956 to " all the dominion of the United States in the waters of the Behring's Pea." It may consequently be thought that the Proclamation following upon the Act is an attempt to settle an international question, which, doubtless, other Powers may still consider an open one. I have, &c. (Signed) H. G. EDWARDES. No. 187. Mr. Edwardes to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Recdved April 5.) My Lord, Washington, March 25, 1889. WITH reference to my despatch of the 18th instant, inclosing a copy of the Act to provide fjr the protection of the salmon fisheries of Alaska, I have now the honour tc report in detail the course of this Act through the two Houses in Congress. On the 25th February, Mr. Stockbridge, Senator for Michigan, introduced a Bill, copy inclosed, to amend section 1903 of the Revised Statutes, and to provide for the better protection of the fur seals and salmon fisheries of Alaska, and for other purposes, which was read twice and referretl to the Committee on Fisheries. The Bill was reported back by Mr. Stockbridge a few days later, copy of Report is herewith inclosed, the Committee having recommended an amendment in the nature of a substitute. The whole Bill as amended then consisted solely of sections 1 and 2 of the Act as ultimately passed, and in that state it was passed by the Senate, almost without discussion. The BiQ was then brought up before the House, and an amendment was offered Mr. Dunn, which added a section 3. The amendment ran as follows : — I:! .,;5 ; B| ■ ■ : ' ■ 1 . ' ' i ■ , ' i ■ ;■:.;'■ ':;:l j^w IS' [128] 2 12 m 244 " Section 3. That section 1956 of the Revised Statutes of the United States was intended to include and apply, and is herel)y declared to include and apply, to all the waters in Behi-ing's Sea in Alaska embraced within tlu? boundary lines mcntionfid and described in tlie Treaty Avith Russia, dated -SOth March, a.u. 1867, by whicli the Territory of Alaska was ceded to the United States ; and it shall be the duty of the President at a timely season in each year to issue his Proclamation, and cause the same to be published for one month in at least one ncAvspapcr published at each United States' port of entry on the Pacitio coast, warning all persons against entering said territory and waters for the purpose of violating the provisions of said section ; and lie shall also cause one or more vessels of the United States to diligently cruize said waters, and arrest all persons and seize all vessels found to be, or to have been, engaged in any violation of the Laws of the United States therein :" and, after an exi)lanation that the object of the amendment was solely tho preservation of seals from extermination, was passed. When tho Bill came back to the Senate, tho Houfe amendment above cited was disagreed to ; tho objection being made that the amend- ment touched upon the question of tho rights of the Government of the United States. These, it was maintained by Senator ]\lorgan, had not been considered, or intended to be considered, in tho original Senate Bill, and there was now no time to consider a question of suc'li im])ortance. A Conference of the two Houses Avas consequently called, Avhieh agreed to recommend the adoption of the Bill, with an amendment run as follows : — " That section 1956 of tho Revised Statutes of tho United States is hereby declared to include and apply to all the dominiou of the United States in the waters of Behring's Sea ; and it shall be the duty of the President, at a timely season in each year, to issue his Proclamation, and cause tho same to be published for one month in at least one newspaper if any such there be published at each United States' port of entry on the Pacific coast, Avaruing all persons against entering said Avaters for the purpose of violating the provisions of said section ; and he shall also cause one or more vessels of the United States to diligently cruize said AA^aters, and arrest all persons and seize all vessels found to be, or to have been, engaged in any violation of the LaAvs of the United States therein." In this shape the Bill was ultimately accepted by both Houses, the Conferrees from tiie Uouses recognizing that there Avas no time to alloAV of the discussion and passage of another Bill of similar import introduced into the House by Mr. Dunn. The approval and signature by the President Avero obtained on the last day of the Session. further copies of the Act arc herewith inclosed, together Avith the full report of tlu! proceedings taken from the Congressional Record. I have, &c. (Signed) H. Q. EDWARDES. Inelosure 1 in No. 187. oOth Congbess, '.::■ D Section. — S. 3993. In the Senate op the United States. February 25, 1889. Mr. Stockbridge '.itroduced the following Bill; Avhich was read twice and referred to the Committee on Pisheries. A Bill, to amend Section 1963 of the Revised Statutis, and to provide for the better Protection of the Fur Seals and Salmon Fisheries of Alaska, and for other Purposes. BE it enacted, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States' of America in Congress assembled : that section 11J63 of the Revised Statutes of the United States be amended so as to read as follows :— " Section 1963. Within one year prior to the time when the lease heretofore made by the Secretary of the Treasury to the Alaska Commercial Company, of the right to engage in taking fur seals on the islands of St. Paul and St. George, pursuant to the Act of the 1st July, 1870, cap. 189, or when any future similar lease expires, or is surrendered, forfeited, or terminated, the Secretary of the Treasury shall lease to Mr. Stockbrid states' of the made ght to , to the , or is ;ase to proper and responsible parties, for the best advantage of the United States, having duo rej?ard to the interests of the Government, tho native inhabitants, their comfort, maintenance, and education, as well as to the interests of the parties heretofore onijnged in the trade and tho protection of tho fisheries, the right of taking fur seals on tho islands herein named, and of sending a vessel or vessels to the islands for the skins of such seals, for tho term of twenty years, at an annual rental of not less than 60,000 dollars, to bo reserved in such lease and secured by a deposit of United States' bonds to that amount ; and tho additional sum of not less than 3 dol. 50 c. for each fur seal-skin taken and shipped from tho islands of St. Paul and St. George during the continuance of any lease, to be paid into the Treasury of the United States, and every such lease shall bo duly executed in duplicate, and shall not be transferable ; and the Scci'ctary of the Treasury is empowered to make all needful regulations for tho collection and payment of tho same, and to secure tho comfort, maintenance, education, and protection of tho natives of those islands, and also to carry into full effect all the provisions of this (diaptor, except as otherwise prescribed. And he shall give at least sixty days' notice of tho letting of said lease, by publication in at least one daily paper publislied in tho cities of lioston. New York, riiiladelphia, Baltimore, "Wasliington, Chicago, Now Orleans, St. Louis, and San Francisco, inviting bids for tho same." Sec. 2. That section 195G of the Jlevised Statutes of the United States was intcudod to include and apply, and is hereby declared to include and apply, to all the waters of Behriug's Sea in Alaska embraced within the boundary lines mentioned and, described in the Treaty with llussia, dated 30th March, A.D. 18G7, by which the Toiritory of Alaska was ceded to the United States ; and it shall be the duty of the President, at a timely season in each year, to ifssuo his Proclamation and cause the same to be published for one month in at least one newspaper published at each United States' port of entry on the Pacific coast, warning all persons against entering said territory and waters for the purpose of violating the provisions of said section ; and he shall also cause one or more vessels of the United States to diligently cruize said waters, and arrest all persons, and seize all vessels found to be, or to have been, engaged in any violation of the Laws of the United States therein. Sec. 3. That section 1969 of the Revised Statutes of the United States be, and the same is hereby, repealed. Sec. 4. That tho erection of dams, barricades, or other obstructions in any of tUo rivers of Alaska, with tho purpose or result of preventing or impeding the ascent of salmon or other anadromous species to their spawning grounds, is hereby declared to bo unlawful, and the Secretary of the Treasury is hereby authorized and directed to establish such Regulations and surveillance as may be necessary to insure that this prohibition is strictly enforced; and every person who shall be found guilty of a violation of the provisions of tliis section shall be fined not less than 250 dollars for each day of the continuance of such obstruction. Sec. 5. That tho Commissioner of Pish and Fisheries is hereby empowered and directed to institute an investigation into the habits, abundance, and distribution of the salmon of Alaska, aa well as the present conditions and methods of the fisiieries, with a view of recommending to Congress such additional legislation as may be necessary to prevent the impairment or exhaustion of these valuable fisheries, and placing them under regular and permanent conditions of production. Inclosure 2 in No. 187. 50tu Congress, 2nd Session. — Repout No. 2687. In the SeNxVte of the United States. February 27, 1889. — Ordered to be printed. Mr. Stockbridge, from tho Committee on Fish and Fisheries, submitted the following Report {To accompany Bill 8. 3993). THE Committee on Fish and Fisheries, to whom was referred the Bill (S. 3993) to amend section 1963 of the Revised Statutes, and to provide for the better protection of the fur seals and salmon fisheries of Alaska, and for other purposes, beg leave to offer a substitute therefor, together with the accompanying Report :— r . ^ 246 ii M, Salmon of different species are abundantly distributed to all the waters of Alaska from British Colombia to Norton Sound. The greater portion of their life is spent in salt water. They enter the rivers mainly for the purpose of reproduction, and it is there that they become the object of pursuit and capture. The spawning grounds are on the gmvelly beds at the sources of the rivers. Any obstructions placed in the rivers which wholly or in considerable measure prevent them from reaching their spawning grounds will in a very short period of time result in the destruction of valuable fisheries, which under judicious regulatioa and restraint are a source of continuing wealth and production to the inhabitants of the territory. Up to the present time one river only, the Korluk, on the Island of Kodiak, has been seriously obstructed by the use of dams or barricades to arrest the ascent of salmon. This stream, hardly 20 miles long, yielded during the season of 1888 aalmon to the value of 1,20(),()0() dollars. This extraordinary production has been at the cost of permanence, and should the use of dams and barricades bo continued several years longer, tlie Korluk will cease to be a salmon river. The marvellous profits reaped by the canners on the Korluk River in 1888 has stimulated enterprise all along the west coast, and numerous expeditious are being now fitted out for the puri)osc of engaging in the salmon fisheries of Alaska the present season. Their objective points are the small streams, which can bo readily obstructed by dams or other barriers, and it is certain tliat, in the absence of restraining legislation, this means of enhancing profits will be n^sortcd to without scruple, and without regard to the fact that such methods generally pursued will result in the destruction of the salmon fisheries of the territory. Inelosure 3 in No. 187. An Act to provide for the Protection of th'' Salmon F^heries of Alaska. [See Inelosure in No. 183.] ' v. ii Inelosure di in No. 187. iS ilmon Fisheries of Alaska. Mr. Stockbridge, — I am directed by the Committee on Fisheries, to whom was referred the Bill (S. 3993) to amend section 1963 of the Revised Statutes, and to provide for the better protection of the fur seals and salmon fisheries of Alaska, and for other purposes, to report it with an amendment in the nature of a substitute. It is a short Bill, and a very important one to the fisheries of Alaska. It is very strongly urged by the Fish Commissioner. I ask for the present consideration of the Bill. The President, pro tempore. — The Senator from Michigan asks unanimous consent that the Bill reported by him may be now considered. It v/ill be read at length for information. The Bill was read. The amendment reported by the Committee on Fisheries was to strike out all after the enacting clause, and insert : — " That the erection of dams, barricades, or other obstructions in any of the rivers of Alaska, M'ith the purpose or result of preventing or impeding the ascent of salmon or other anadromous creatures to their spawning grounds, is hereby declared to be unlawful ; and the Secretary of the Treasury is hereby authorized and directed to establish such Regulations and surveillance as may be necessary to insure that this prohibition is strictly enforced, and to otherwise protect the salmon fisheries of Alaska ; and every person who shall be found guilty of a violation of the provisions of this section shall be fined not less than 250 dollars for each day of the continuance of such obstruction. Sec. 2. That the Commissioner of Fish and Fisheries is hereby empowered and directed to institute an investigation into the habits, abundance, and distribution of the salmon of Alaska, as well as the present conditions and methods of the fisheries, with a view of recommending to Congress such additional legislation as may be necessary to prevent the impairment or exhaustion of these valuable fisheries, and placing them under regular and permanent conditions of production." By unanimous consent, the Senate, as in Committee of the whole, proceeded to consider the Bill. 247 The President, pro tempore.— Tho question is on agreeing to the amendment reported by tli(» Committee on Fisheries. The amendment was agr(H!d to. . The Bill was reported to the Senate as amended, and the amendment waa concurn^d in. The Bill was ordered to bo engrossed for a third reading, road the third time, and passed. Mr. Dawes. — The title should he amended. I call the attention of the Senator from Michigan to the fact that the Bill does not relate to the fur seals as amended. Mr. Stockhridye.—'So, Sir ; it relates to the salmon fisheries of Alaska. The title should he amended. The title was amended so as to road : " A Bill to provide for the Protection of the Salmon Fisheries of Alaska." Mr. Piatt. — Docs the section of tbo Hevised Statutes which is referred to relate to aalmon fisheries ? Mr. Stockbridge.— Yes, Sir. Mr. Stewart. — I should like to have the Bill lie over, so that I may look at it. I do not know that I shall want to object to it after I examine it. The President, pro tempore. — The Senator from Nevada moves to reconsider the vote by which the Senate passed the Bill. Mr. Dawes. — I wish to say to the Senator from Nevada that unless the Bill goes to the other branch immediately it will bo entirely useless. It is the result of an investigation of a Committee in the other branch Avith relt;renco to the salmon fisheries only. It has nothing to do with the fur-seal fisheries. Mr. Stewart. — I will enter a motion to reconsider and look at it. The President, pro tempore. — The Senator from Nevada enters a motion to reconsider the vote by which the Bill was passed. Mr. Stewart subsequently said : I should like to withdraw my motion to reconsider the Bill in regard to tbo salmon fisheries of Alaska. The President, pro tempore. — Is there objection ? The Chair hears none, and the motion to reconsid(!r is withdrawn. The Bill stands passed. ■■;■ ;;] ■ed and ition of berics, nay be es, and ided to Salmon Fisheries of Alaska. The Speaker also laid before the House the Bill (S. 3993) to provide for tho protection of the salmon fisheries of Abska. Mr. Dunn. — Mr. Speaker, the provisions of that Bill are contained in a Bill reported unanimously from the Committee on Merchant Marine and Fisheries. It is an emergency Bill, necessary for the preservation of the salmon fisheries of Alaska, and I ask unanimous consent that it be now considered. It contains nothing else but the necessary measures for the protection of these important fisheries. The Speaker. — Tho Bill which tho gentleman from Arkansas says has been reported from the Committee on Merchant Marine and Fisheries has been read already in the Uouse, and unless there be a demand for tho reading of the Senate Bill, the reading will be dispensed with. There was no objection. Mr. Anderson, of Kansas. — Is this the Bill that makes the lease to the Fisheries Company ? Mr. Dunn. — No ; this is a different Bill. I shall report that from the Committee, and give tho IIouso ample opportunity to consider it hereafter. This is a Senate Bill, which relates simply to tho salmon fisheries. It is identical with sections 4 and 5 of the House Bill, prohibiting the erection of dams or other obstructions in the rivers of Alaska which prevent the salmon from ascending to their spawning grounds. The Speaker. — Is there objection to the present consideration of the Bill ? There was no objection. Mr. Dunn. — I offer an amendment which relates also to the preservation of the herd of seals, and I ask the previous question upon the Bill and amendment. Mr. Bigns. — I reserve the right to object. The Speaker. — The amendment will be read. The Clerk read as follows : — " Section 3. That section 1950 of the Revised Statutes of the United States was intended to include and apply, and is hereby declared to include and apply, to all the waters of Behring's Sea in Alaska embraced within the boundary lines mentioned and 11 'dcloribed in the Treaty witU RuMla, dated the 30tli Maroli, a.d. 1807, l>y whidi tho Territory of Alaska was ceded to tho United States ; and it shall be the duty oi" the President, at a timely season in each year, to issue hia Froolamation, and cause the same to bo published for one month in at least one newspaper published at caoh United States' port of entry on tho Pacillo coast, warning all pcirsous ai^ainst entoring said territory and waters for the purpose of violating tho provisions of said section ; and he shall also cause one or more vessels of tho United States to diligently cruize •aid watttrs, bnd arrest all persons and seize all vessels found to bo, or to have been, engaged in any violation of tho Laws of the United States therein." Mr. Taulbee.—l would like to ask tho gentleman, in the light of his explanation, tho necessity for this llosolution at this time. Mr. Dunn. — The necessity is that the general Bill, reported by the C'ommittro to tho Houst!, has been recommitted for the purpose of considering certain amendments relating to tho reletting of the lease and the length of its term in future, and in tiie present condition of tho House, it is not at all probable that it will receive final con- sideration in time to pass the Senate. This amendment simply provides for the protection to tho herd of seals and tho salmon until there can be further legislation of a permanent character. Mr. Taulbee. — Does it have the effect of sending up the vessels named in this amendment as patrols to protect the Company which already has the control of that business ? Mr. Dunn. — Not at all. It is to protect the herd of seals and enforce tho Laws of the United States which were enacted in 1870. Mr. Taulbee. — Why can not the President do that by existing law P Mr. Dunn. — There has been a relaxation of tho enforcement of the Law heretolbre, so that unauthorized persons have concluded that the Government does not intend to enforce the Law, and not less that 150 vessels are to-day fitting out to go to Behring's Sea. They will literally cover that sea with unlawful seal-hunters armed with guns, and the destruction of seal-lit'o that will take place, and the fusilado of flre-arn^s tli.nt will occur in that sea during four months of next summer will drive every seal from it timt is not killed in the general and indiscriminate slaughter. It does not change the Law, but commands the President of the United States to enforce it. Mr. Buchanan. — And is not this method of getting seals — by shooting them in the open sea — the most wasteful method that could be devised, only about ono in five being recovered ? Mr. Dunn. — About one out of seven is recovered. The time has come when the Govcrnniont must cnfoicc the Laws for the preservation of our herd of seals with firiniu'ss and decision, or suffer an absolute destruction of the herd. Tho danger is imminent, and J hope no gentleman will object to it. It does not involve a dollar of expeiulituiv. it is useless to ])rof;e('t tiio seals on the rookeries — the islands of St. Paul and St. George — and leave tlieni to tli<'ir late in the waters of Behring's Sea, If they are left withont i)r()tection in the sea, there will soon bo none left to goto the rookeries. (Cries of'- Vote! " "Vote!") The amendment was agreed to. rii(! iiill as amended was ordered to a third reading ; and it was accordingly read tlie third time, and passed. Mr. VJuriji moved to reconsider the vote by which the BUI was passed; and also moved that the motion to reconsider bo laid on the Table. The latter motion was agreed to. I ' ^ Salmon Fisheries of Alaska. The President, pro tempore. — Reports of Committees are now in order. Mr. Sherman. — I am instructed by the Committee on Foreign Ilclations to report back the Bill (S. ;i993) to amend section 1963 of the Revised Statutes, and to provide for the better protection of the fur seals and salmon fisheries of Alaska, and for other purposes, with the House amendment, with a recommendation that the Uouso amendment be disagreed to. I ask for its present consideration. The Presiding Officer (Mr. Chaco in tho chair). — Is there objection to tho present consideration of tho House amendment to this Bill ? The Chair hears none. The title of the Bill was read. The Presiding Officer. — Does the Senator wish a Conference ? " • ''^ 249 Mr. Sherman. — i ask that tlio ametulment of tho Houso b« diaaHrucd to» and tlteo I sliall ask for a Coratnittcu of (^onferHnce, The Presiding Oj/iccr.-~li is movod by the Senator from Ohio that the Senate (lis.iifrpo to tlio nniondinont of tlio lluiise of Roproscntativcs. Mr. Morgan. — lias tliis Bill passed tho Senate ? i\fr. ShenniiH. — It is a Senate Hill which has passed the IIouso with an amend- luciit. Wo now report disagrecmenf to tho Ilouse amendment. Mr. Morgan. — And tho question is on disagreeing to the umcndmcut of tho ilouse. Mr. Sherman. — Yes, sir. Mr. Morgan. — I wish to say just this : Tliat in tho Report made l)y tho Coraraittce the riifhts of tlio (Jovcrnmcnt of tho United States were not considered, and not iiiti'iided to he considered. Wc only arrive at the conclusion that <he question presented in tho amendment of Mio House is of such a serious and important a ohiiraeter that the Committee on Foreign Relations would not undertake at this time to pronounee that kind of judgment upon it which is duo to tho magnitude of such a (lucstion. 1 tlosirc that tho Bill as it passed tho Senate originally should jiass, Ixieausc it protects the salmon and other lislierios in Alaska, about which there is no dispute; but tills particular question is one of very great gravity and seriousness, and the Committee on Foreign Relations, or at least a majority of the entire Committee, did not feel warranted in undertaking to consider it at this time. Mr. Shrriiiiin. — I inttiniled, when the amendment was properly hefore us, to say to tlio Senate; that the Committee on Foreign Relations were of tho opinion tliat while there was no ohjeetioii at all to tho Senate Rill as it passed, it being for a clear and plain purpose, the question proposed by tho Uousc in the form of an amendment was a grave one, and had no relation to tho subject-matter of the Bill, and ought not to be connected with it, bud no connection really with it, and involved serious matters of iiilernational law, perhaps, and of public policy, and therefore it ought to bo considered liy itself. I was dir(!ctcd by the Committee to state that the subject-matter, the merits of tiie proposition proposed by tiio Uousc, were not before us, and not considered by us, and we are not at all committed for or against the proposition made by the IIouso. We make tiiis Ueport simply because it has no connection with tho Rill itself, and it ou;j:ht to be disagreed to and abandoned, and considered more carefully henafter. J therefore ask for a Committee of Conference on the disagreeing votes oi" the two Houses. The Presiding Officer. — Tho question is on agreeing to the amendment of th(; House of Representatives. The amendment was not concurred in. • ' ' ■ '■ i'-. ■> The Presiding Officer. — Tho Senator from Ohio now moves that the Sentite ask for a Conference with the Ilouse of Representatives on tho disagreeing votes. Tho motion was agreed to. it Alaska Salmon Fisheries. -f I « t ■ /n ■411 U06....^.t Ml. Dunn. — I submit the following Conference Report. . - • The Clerk read as follows : — • '^ '•• " The Committee of Conference on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on the amendments of the Senate to the Bill to provide for the protection of the salmon fisheries of Alaska having met, after full and free conference have agreed to recom- mend to their respective Houses, and do recommend : " That tho Senate recede from its disagreement to the amendment of the House, and agree to the same, with an amendment to read as follows : — " ' Section 3. That section 1956 of the Revised Statutes of the United States is liore- liy declared to include and apply to all the dominions of the United States in th(; waters of Behring's Sea, and it shall be the duty of the President at a timely season in each year to issue his Proclamation, and cause the same to be published for one month at least in one newspaper (if any such there be) published at each United States' port of entry on the Pacific coast, warning aU persons against entering such waters for the purpose of violating the provisions of said section, and he shall also cause one or more vessels of the United States to diligentlv cruize said Avaters, and arrest all persons and [128] * 2 K m' J ■« 250 seize all vessels found to be, or to have been, engaged in any violation of the Laws of the United States therein.* " And the House agree to the same." (Signed) POINLEXTEli, DUNN, BENTON McMILLIN, CHARLES N. FELTON, Managers on the part of the Home. (Signed) JOHN SHERMAN, J. T. MORGAN, GEORGE F. EDMUNDS. Managers on the part of the Senate, The followins; is the Statement accompanying the Report under the Rule :— Statement. " The effecL of the amendment is to leave out of the House amendment the words that are descriptive of the boundaries of the waters of Alaska." (Signed) POINDEXTER DUNN, BENTON McMILLIN, C. N. EELTON. Managers on the part of the House. Tlie Oonferencii Report was adopted. Mr, Dunn moved to voeonsider the vote by which fhe Conference Report was adopted ; and also moved that the motion to reconsider be laid on the Table. Tie latter motion was agreed to. :;! Salmon Fisheries of Alaska. Mr, Sherman. — I ask tliat the action of the House of Representatives on Senate Bill 3v)93 W laid before the Senate. Thn Jlesolution of the House of Representatives was read as follows : — "In the House of Ri prpse tnlives, March 2, 1889. " Resolved, that the House concur in tlie Report of tlic Committee of Conference on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on the amendment of the House to the Bill (S. 31)93) to provide for the protection of th^ salmon hsheries of Alaska." Mr. Sherman submitted the following lleporl, : — " The Committee of Conference on tlio disagreeing votes of the two Houses on the amendments of the Senate to the Bill (S. 3993) to provide for clie protection of tlie salmon fisheries o. Alaska having met, after full und f ree coni'erence have agreed to recommend, and do rci 'nmend, to tl' ir respective Houses as follows : — " That *he Senate recede from its disagreement to tho amendment ot the House, pad agree Lo the same, with an amendment to read as follows : — " ' Section 3. That section 1956 of the Revised Statutes of the United States is hereby declared tc include nud a[)ply to all ';he dominion of the United States in the waters oi Bf brings Sea, and it shall bo tl e duty of the President, at a timely reason in each year, to issue l.is Brcclamation, and cause the sanu; to be published lor one month ;;> at le.isi one niiwspaper (if any such theie bo) published in each United States' port of entry on tl'c Bacitic coast, warning all persons against entering said waters for the purpose of violating the provisions of said section, and he shall cauye one or more* vessels of the United States to diligently cruize said waters, and arrest all persons and seize all vessels found to be, or to have been, engaged in any violation of the Laws of the United States therein.' " And tht House agree to the same." (Signed) JOHN SHERMAN. JOHN T. MORGAN, GEORGE F. EDMUNDS, Managers on the par', of the Senate. (Signed) POINDEXTER DUNN, BENTON McMILLIN, 0. N. FELTON, *■' Managers on the part of the House. 251 The President, pro tempore. — If there be no objection to the present consideration of the Report, the question is upon concurring in the same. ' The Report Avas concurred in. No. 188. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received April 1 1 .) 8ir, Downing IStreet, April 19, 1889. I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to acknowledge the receipt of your letters of the 2i5th ultimo and .Ird instant, inclosing copies of despatches from Her Majesty's Charge d' Affaires at Washington on the Behring's Sea question.* The Proclamation recently issued by President Harrison with regard to the seal fishing in Behring's Sea appears to .aise an important question as to tiic meaning which is attached by the United States* Government to the words " all the dominion of the United States in the water of Behring's Sea," which i' the term used in the Act upon which the Proclamation is founded. Bearing in mind the interpretation which the Uniied States' Government has hitherto placed upon the dominion of the United States in Behring's Sea, it seems to his Lordship worthy of consideration whether some intimation, such as that suggested in the letter from this Dc])artmeut of the 20tli Alarch, should not be conveyed to the United States. I am, &c. (Signed) llOUERT G. W. HERBERT. ' No. 189. ) , Coloni il Office to Foreign Office. — {Received April 11.) Sir, Dotining Street, April 10, 1889, I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 4tli instant, transmitting, for his Lordship's information, ,a copy of a despatch from Her Majesty's C hargd d'Affaires at "Washington, on the question of the sale of three B'itish vessels seized by the United States' authorities in 1887, when engaged in seal fishing in the Behring's Sea. 2. In reply, his Lordship desires me to state, for the information of tlie Secretary of State for Foreign Alfuirs, that he has no observations to offer on the despatch referred to. 3. Lord Knutsford would be glad to learn what is the present position of the appeal in the case of the steam-ship " W. P. Sayward." I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRA^ISTON. No. 190. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, April 11, 1889. I TRANSPUT herewith copies of despatches from Her iLajesty's Charge d'Ailaires at Washington, as i.iarked in the margin, r relative to t!K3 Act of the United States' Congress of the 2nd ilurcli, 188i), providing for the protection of the salmon fisheries of Alaska, and tiie Proclamation which has been issued by tiie President of the United States in pursuance of its provisions. The Act (Iwhuvs that section 19oG of the Revised Statutes of the Uniti'd States "includes and api)lios to all the domiuiou of thn United States in die waters of Behring's Sea," and directs the President, " at a timely season in eacii yea'" to issue his Pi'oclamation, warning all persons against entering the said waters for the purpose of violating the provisions of the said section," &c. That section (195G) enacts that " no person shall kill any otter, mink, marten, salde, or fur seal, or other fur-bearing ahimal within the limits of Alaska territory, or • .\os. l;a and 183. " f N^s. 179, 18C, and 187. 1 128 J 2 K 2 !' I m ! t! I m mm 1 i ijfl 262 ifl the waters thereof ;" and the Pi'psident, after i'w»5itiB» the section iii question ami the section of the Salmon Act in which it is i-eferred to, proceeds hy his Ih-ocliimation to " warn all persons against euf evins; tl»c waters of B^iring's Sea within th(> domain of the United States for the purpose of violating the |)r(inrisions of the said section lOHC, Revised Statutes " &c. I am directed hy Mar(|iiis oC Salishury to requ»*«^ ■'9aat, in layin;^' the inclosed papers before Lord Knatsl'ord, you will point out tu iin> Lordship tltat the Act aiul Proclamation, taken strictly, do no more than asinurt tUe rigtata of the United States in their territorial waters. In fact, tiic (li.s<'ussion« in '.he Sonatc an«l the House uf Hepresentatives, recorded in Tnr'losnre I. to Mr. Echv-ardes"' despatch of t'. ; 2ath ultimo, show that the majority in tin- desinsd to ^oid Uf-ionnittini;' them*lvcs hy any words in the Act to an inl. ,<: .un of the Treaty ri<jJViilis ol 'he [Jnii;«d States in JSehring's Sea, and that the Hous<-> >' Kepresentatives aeqiWwced a- that in'*-cntion. T am. &c. (Signe* P. CL'RRIE. ■■'■l>'- ''■ The Marquis of Halisburif to Sir J. Paunrffote. Sir, Foreign Offin; April V-\, 1.-*.. WITH reference to Mr. Edwardcs' despatch of the l.'itli ultimo. 1 have to reqiu-st that you will report to mc, for the information of the Hecretar of State iw tin' Colonies, what is the present position of the appeal in tlj<' case vV tiio ateiMv.^«lii|> "W. P. Sayward," last reported on in Sir L, West's despatch of the I5th Septow^ • ' 1888. I am, &c. (Signed) SAi^SBURY. No. 192. Mr. Edumrdfg to the Marquis of fialisbury. — {KfCin-il April 1(5.) My Lord. W„.thiii.'jlon, April 2, 188!t. AL'I'HOUGH the IJill intiodoced by Mr. Dunn into the House of Representatives to amend section 196!'> of the Revised Statutes, and to provide for the hotter protection of the fur seals and salmon fisheiies of Alitska, and for other purpose*, did not ^*eonii law, I think it right to submit a Report ns to the proceedm^^s in the Hou.v whieh to')k place in regard to it, on account of its connection with *.iie Act j>a«sed on tin- '2nd March for the protection of the salmon li.shories of Alaska. The first section of Mr. Dunn's Bill related to tin. ..rasinj; to any persoi: .ir Company, by the Secretary of the Treasury, of the Tig.it to take tur-seaU on ci" n islands. The second section extended to all the waters of Pehrtftjf's Sea. The prohibitieii contained in section 1956 of the Revised Statutes to kill fur-Waring «ftinials (e.xcept to tliose authorized), and calls on tlie President to issue a Proclamat -v. every year warning' all persons against entering the waters of the iiehring's Sea for that pwipose ; and to cause vessels of the United States to police tiiose waters, to arrest all foufld in sudi illei:;il hunting, and to seize their vessels, &c. The other sections referred to the protection of salmon in Alaska waters. The Bill was refen-ed to the Committee on Merchant Marine and Fisheries, and reported back by Mr. Dunn. The Report, copy of which is herewith inclosed, is niosl interesting, and gives the result of invesUgation into the suljjeel of the fur-seal lisherirs of Alaska, and of the leases granted by the Government to ))er»ons or Companies tor the rights of taking fur-bearing animals in thosi' ] ar(s, &c. IVlr. Dunn opened the discussion on the Bill ' / reviewing (he rigiits of the United States in the waters of Alaska, which were ac .ired by the Treaty with Kussia in IStlT- Every right, every privilege, every immuni*^/ which, he said, Bussia had iiad in the territory of Alaska, the United States nov 've. Chief among tiie intere.-its accpiired by the United States by their purchase <' ..i Russia was the seal rookery of tiie Pribyleti Islands. He then went on to give an account of tlie lease held by the Ala' a Coinmercinl ComiMiny of ; amount of re\ It was m >"essels, and t their vessels s Several \ contested on that sea. Tin tlie sea, and releasing the tinns about thi However, Department h The Committe that no indulj inhabitants of iu those latitui ;i'ct all their i tlicrefore eons warning all pc existing laws ; Ihat sea. If this be seals will not contrary, it is i should be protc unmistakable ii Mr. Dingh 'bis .speech b( f Alaska t( Cviiitrover.sy tha atten)i)ted to e (Juited States v eeognized to c Several an ill' 'nst stage i( ■i I Inu •Hnio, tlu '■' / of Con; acce/ /!, and tl same ,, poit as .uTieiifin. .it of ■Ui'^ jKl'itrch. Nr. f HAA'i; «liich you call --nd ultimo for piissod by (he Ui In view of I the meaning wbic ;wds "all the (I in section .'I of 1 1 iliat (lovernmenl U'.sscls, when lish tile United State In reply, I ai tmmmf. pws 253 CoiiUMvny of the atiiOunt of seals allowed to be killed under its provisions, and of the ■ amount of revenues obtained by the United States from this territorial aequisition, It was most important, he said, that the seas should be patrolled by United States' \-es3els, and that unlawful hunters should know that if found they will be arrested and tlicir vessels seized. Several vessels had thus been seized last season, the legality of tne seizure being contested on the grounds that the United States' Government had no jurisdiction over that sea. The Courts liad sustained the right of jurisdiction of the Government over tlio sea, and their right to protect the fisheries. If there had been any leniency in lelciising the seized vessels on the part of the Executive, it was pending some negotia- tions about the Eastern Fisheries question. However, in no case iiave the rights of the United States been waived. The State department has (akcn no decision conceding that the Behring's Sea is an open sea. The Committee have been satisfied that the policing of the sea must be more rigid, and tliat no indulgence must be shown to violators of the law. The existence of the inhabitants of the Alentian Islands and of other parts in the United States possessions in those latitudes depends on the continuation of the legitimate killing of seals. Tiiey o'ct all their means of existence fnm those employed in it. The Committee have therefore considered it advisable thi'.t the President should issue a Proclamation yearly, warning all persons frcnn entering Behring's Sea with the intention of violating the existing laws ; and, moreover, he sliould be called upon to sec to the closer patrolling of that sea. If this be not done tht seal rookeries will be open to every one, and the herds of seals will not last three years. No (tovernment would wish for this result. On the contrary, it is understood that other (Jovernmcnts are more than willing that the seals slioulu be protected. Tiie United States' Government have but to be firm, positive, and miuiistakat)le in their policy. Mr. Dingley also spoke strongly in favour of the Bill, the most noteworthy portion 'his speech l)eing that in which he refers to the claim of Russia, before the cession by -f Alaska to the United States, to exclusive jurisdiction in the Behring's Sea, to the c.iutroversy that took place between E'lssia and the United States when the former ;ittemi)ted to extend that jurisdiction, and to the Treaties between Russia and the I'uited States and between Russia and Great Britain, whereby the rights of Russia were lOguized to control the Behring's Sea north of 55°. Several amendments were offered to the Bill, which was ultimately recommitted, iIk- last stage it reached before Congress expired. * s I had the honour to report to your Lordship, in my despatch of the 'imo, the House seeing that Mr. Dunn's IJill could not possibly pass before the if Congress, added an amendment to the Senate Bill (which was ultimiitely ,1' , antl the Bill was passed) in the shape of an addition of a section 3 of tlie saiiu iiort as section 2 in Mr. Dunn's Bdl, and it has been in response to this iiMiiUu..- iit of the House that the President has issued his Proclamation of tiie .: 'I ydmU. I have, &c. (Signed) H. E. EDWARDES. No. 10.'}. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. ^\r. Foreign Office, April IS, 1881). I HAVK laid before the jMarquis of Salisbury your letter of the lOlh instant, in which you cull attention to the Proclamation is^a"d by President Harrison on the -Jnd ultimo for tiie i)rotection of the fiu- seals in Behring's Sea, and to the Act recently [Hissed by (lie United States" Congress on which that Proclannitiou is liased. In vicrt' of the previous action of the United States' authorities on the .'-pot, and of ilie meaning which may be attached by the Government of tiie United Stales to the Htirds "all the dominion of the United States in the waters of Behring's Sea," employed ill section :< of the Act, lji)rd Knutsl'ord siigg(.s(s that an intim ition should he made to ilmt (loveninienf, llmt He' Majesty's Government cannot require the masters of Britisii U'ssels, when iishing in Bolning's Sea beyond the 3-mile limit, to recognize the law of the United States. ' In reply, I am to request that you will state to his Lordship that Sir J. Pauneefote, .-■ \ riti-ni m- who has been appointed to succeed Lord Sackville as Her Majesty's Representative at Washington, left London for his post on the 13th instant. It would, in Lord Salisbury's opinion, be advisable to wait until he has had time to examine into the question on the spot, and to report upon the situation, before making any communication to the United States' Government on the subject. I am, &c. (Signed) T. H. SANDERSON. Sir, I AM dire reference to yo to the Governo vessels were en ,1 '! No. 194. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. (Extract.) Foreign Office, April 18, 188!). IT will bo been, on reference to the correspondence respecting the seizure of Canadian schooners l)y 5Tiiitcd States' Revenue cutters in Bcliring's Sea, that Mr. Bayard, in a letter addressed t.) Her Majesty's Minister at Washington on the 12th Apr!!, 1887,* a copy of whicli accompanied the letter from this Department of the 5th May of that year, stated that *• the laws of the United States rejzulating the killing of fur seals have been in force for upwards of seventeen yer.rs, and, prior to the seizure of la.st summer, but a single infraction is known to have occurred, and that was promptly punished." On the other hand, Lord Lansdowne, in his despatch of the 27th November, 1880,t of which a copy was forwarded in your letter of the 4th January, 18S7, states : " This is, as far as I have been able to ascertain, tb.e first occasion upon which claims of the kind now advanced have been enforced. Sealing-vesscis from British Columbia have for some years past frequented the waters of Behring's Sea without molestation." Lord Salisbury observes, however, that, in the Minute by the Department of Marine and Fisheries, inclosed in Lord Stanley's des])atcb of the 3rd August, 1888 (of wliich a copy was forwarded in your letter of the 18th of that month), it is stated that, by tlic proposed arrangement for a close time, '• Canada would lose the enjoyment of a lucrative right long possessed, and this loss would be fatal to the prosecution of the seal industry." In Lord Salisbury's opinion it would be interesting, with a view to possible further negotiations, to know for how long, and to wli.at extent, Canadian vessels have been in the liabit of killing seals in the waters of Behring's Sea before 188G. I am to rc((uest tliat, in laying this letter l)elore Secretary Lord Knutsford, you will move him to endeavour to obtain such statistical information l)earing on these points as can be furnished by the Canadian Government. No. ion. Ctlcniul Offi'rc to Foreign Office. — {Received April 20.) Sir, ncirning Street, April 20, 1880. 1 AM directed by Lord Knutsford to acknowledge the receipt of your jotter of the 11th instant, transmitting copies of de.spatciies from Her Majesty's Cliarge d'Atfairesat Washington relative t :> the Act of the United States' t.'ongress of the *Jnd March, 1889. providing for tlie ])votcction of the salmoji lisberies of Aluska, and the Proclamation which has been issued by the President of the United States in pur.suance of its provisions. In reply, I am to atujuaint you, for the information of '.he JUarquis ol Salisbury, il:".t Lord Knut.sford, wiiile accepting the construction put upon tiie Act and i'roclaniatiy.' in your letter, would iiave beisn glad if an opportunity couid have been found of placing thai construction oliicially on record. I am, &.C. (Signed) R. H. :MEADE. * See Inclosurc 2 in No. 37 f Sec Incloiurc I in Nc. ^t. My Lord, I HAVE t copy of a lettei the extent to w in Behring's Se I should b( Marqius of Sails Sir, My Lord, IN reply to inform you tl "W. P. Saywar( it is not printed But it appi business of the four years in arr '-■ i Sir, I AM direct the information ( Department of F I am to ci Boh'ing's Sea, 255 No. 196. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received April 30.) Sir, Downing Street, April 29, 1889. I AM directed by the Secretary of State for the Colonies to transmit to you, with reference to your letter of the 18th instant, a copy of a despatch which he has addressed to the Governor-General of Canada inquiring as to the extent to which British Columbian vessels were engaged in seal hunting in Behring's Sea prior to 1886. I am, &c. (Signed) ROBEET G. W. HERBERT. 18S!). izure of Bayaid, h April, I May of ? of fur ?iziire of )roaiptly •, 1880,t ' 'I'his is, the kind for some f Marine which a t, by the ;nt of a ' the boal furliier en in the you will loiiits as 188!). of the if;! ires at U, 18S'J, aniatiou !c of its ury, r,-.t iitio.^ in ciiiii' thai AVtE. Inclosure in No. 196. Lord Knutsford to Lord Stanley of Preston. My Lord, Downing Street, April i1, 1889. I HAVE the honour to transmit to yu, for communication to your Ministers, a copy of a letter from the Foreign Office requesting to be supplied witii infornation as ta the extent to which vessels belonging to British Columbia were engaged in teal hunting in Behrings Sea prior to 1886. I should be obliged if your Ministers could supply the information desired by the Marquis of Salisbury at an early date. (Signed) ' KNUTSFORD. No. 197. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury.— (Received May 13.) My Lord, Washington, April 26, 1889. IN reply to your Lordship's despatch of the 13th instant, I have the honour to inform you that I learn on inquiry that the record of the appeal of the schooner "W. P. Say ward " was tiled on the 3Uth October, 1888, but has not yet been printed. If it is not printed when the case is called the appeal will be dismissed. But it appears tlie case will not uc reached for call for some ihree years, the business of the Supreme Court of the United States being, as I am told, nearly or quite four years in arrear. I am, &c. (Signec i JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. :; :: :. no. i98. Colonial Office to Foreign Office.— {Received May 15.) Sir, ' Downing Street, May 14, 1889. I AM directed by the Secretary of State for the Cok«nies to transmit to you, for the information of the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of the Ani;ual Report of the Canadian Department of Fisheries for the year 1888. I am to call attention to the remarks at p. 241 as to the seal-hunting in Behnng's Sea. (Signed) I am, &c. ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. ! !' 250 Inclosure in No. 198. l^ETUBN bhowinn' tlie Number of Vessels, Boats, and Men engaged in the Marine Fur Fishery of Britisli Cohunbia, with the Products and Value, for the Season of 1888, Names of Vessels. Xanics of Owners. Tonnairc. Numl>er of lloals. Numlwr of Men. Xumh«r of Seals in llritish Columbia. Kumher of.HeaU in llehring's Sua. Total Numliet of Seals. Tntll Value of Seali. UnlLri. Pcrulopo .. .. ,T. ,1. Orav .. fiO 5 20 nn5 9C0 1,705 l<.O50 Mary Kile A. McLean .. (I'J 11 30 1,410 1,937 3,347 33,);o Juaiiita Hall and (Jospiil III i:i 2K 177 1,017 1,194 11, 'JW Aloniitaiii Chief n, Jacolison ,. .. •_'li fi 10 400 S25 1,225 12,.'50 Sll[) .Icisu •. .. J.S. Lc: .^2 •1 10 107 107 i,(i;o Siippliire E.H.Moroni 121 9 22 1,200 ,. 1,200 12,0(10 Viva Came ami Munsip , . B2 .) 21 KOli 2,110" 2,875 2S,;5il Black Diamonil liutman and Frank ,. HI 9 19 231 H',3 1,090 Iii.OM MiirvTnjldr J. J>. U'arraii ,, ■12 13 24 392 392 3,',I20 llcli-yon ., American 01 24 17 ,, 17 i;o friiimp'i 11. McLean .. 97 12 9 ,. 2,470 2,470 24,700 O. S. I'.iwIiT \Vm. Heudt .. 34 '} 12 230 , . 230 2,300 Aniui" C, MiKiri' ,, Clias. llackctt 112 1 22 ,, 715 715 7,150 Lilv fiiitman and Frank . , fiS ■>■! 20 93 • ■ 93 930 PaflifmiltT .. .. Came and Muilsie .. lifi 9 21 000 (150 1 ,250 12,500 AdMi- V. Itntz ,M) 8 19 392 •iJl 1,214 12,1« R'tficv OIsL'ti ,. \Vm. Olsen .. 3.1 3 13 100 500 000 C.OOU Auiiii' ,las. Latlliu .. 25 3 11 150 i,or,9 1,195 11,950 MaiTji- Mc .. .lohu Dod J . . 71 5 20 125 1,2"9 1,124 14,21.1 l-\tYiiiiiite .. .. Clias. Spring Total 79 12 27 300 1,H . 2,134 21,340 ^, ■ • •• •• •• 214,S3o Estimate i)f sliius pur :hased from Indians . , 3,500 3,.-)00 3.'], "00 si-a olter-sl<ii)S purchased from Indians .. . . . . 100 , , 100 7,5llO hair seals purchased from Indians , , . . • • S.-IOO , , 3,500 2,0.'i Schooner " (). H. Fowler," walnis-sltius . . . . 21 21 STk 250 ivory, at 40 c 1 products •• ■ ■ •• •• •• •• loo Gr and total marine furs anc •• •• •• 2K0,133 The decrease in the fur seal catch in Behring's Sea is still more noticeable ; it was caused principally by the unsettled state of aflairs witli the American Government, several of the schooners being afraid to enter tliese waters at the risk of si^izures. A great deal has been written on the life and habits of the fur seal. It is contended by some that all the fur seal in the North I'ttcilic have their rookeries on St. Paul and St. Get)rge Islands in Bcliriiig'.s Sea. Others cLaim that many of the fur seals of tlie Pacific never enter Behring's Sea, but pup on large kelp fields in the oceiin, and may perhaps have regular hauling grounds outside of liehring's Sea. E.xtiacts from a Circular of C. M. Lamscn and Co., of London, England, will give the reader some idea of wlicrt the fur seals are caught. From October 1880 to January 1888 the following number of skins were sold : — (r>. Nortli-We"*, Pacific Const I.nljus Islaud , . . . A Inska . , . . Copper Islaud , . ■Jnpnti . . . , Cape Horn , . South Sea . . . . >-> ^\r, <~ <X f Scal.skins. 43,687 30,463 204.033 100,880 9,850 6,926 200 -;i9f),04» It lia^ been estimated that 10,000,000 seals haul out annually on S^. Paul, and 3,000.0(10 on St. George Islands. The Commercial Alaska Company controls ^heso ind otiiLT islands by lease front, tlic American and Russian Governments. I am ot oiiinioii that many fur seal pup on kelp fields along tbe British Columbia coast. I have liad reliable information from practical hunters and fishermen who bear nie out on this point. Morris IMoss, of Victoria, states that during tbe year 1870 be was eiigag 'd trading ori the coast near Bella Bella during the months of March and April, when ho saw liuiulrods of fur seal pups from ,", to 5 months old, wliieb had become separated from tiicir niotiiors, and on account of a heavy storm were blown on shore and caught bv the natives. Captain Alexander McLean, of Victoria, states that he killed a number of t'ui' seal pujis oil' Ca|)e Cook, which had likewise been blown ashore during a storm. .lame^ G. Swan's Keport for 1880 and IS8:3 goes to show that the Indians of Cape Fhittcrv capture fuf impossible t states they Mr. Swan sp that there ai while in Beh the fact that seals. My Lord, 1 HAVI United States fur-bearing an section 1956 The llevt "Rush," in 01 Tira Ala orders of the R lier instruction purpose of " we section 1966 found to be, or tlieruin." Section 19i any otter, mink Aia.ska territory offi'nce, be fined more than si.v n found engaged Treasury shall I orther fur-bearii it shall be the di tbe execution o slialJ he grant ai The Comm the 2iid Marcli, 1 tlie protection of provisions. The upon receipt of Keveniie-steamei Point Barrow, AI lisherics, and wi |iie|)aredat the 'I [128] l;,«50 a3,i;(i 11, wo 12,231) i.'i;o 1 2,1)110 ■js,;jii lli.MO 3,',I20 i;o ■24.7IJ0 2.3(10 7,150 12,5U0 12,ltt C,000 11,9511 11,211 21,3W 2ll,S]ii srj.'ioo ;,5iio 2,i;2j 3TH lull 2!<0,433 Paul, ami |*he.sc umll pt ojiinion I have liiiilj tliis iioiut. ratliiiiC ""I lllllulrOll^ Irom their I Iht by the ])er of fur | .laiiu'^ Flattciyl 257 capture fuf seal pups each season, and keep them as pets around tlic camps. Tt is inipoMsible tliat these pups may have come from Behring's Sea at that age, as Mr. Elliott states they do not leave the islands before the month of November, and those that Mr. Swan speaks of are caught early in the spring. The majority of our hunters contend that there are over 7 jer cent, of pups in the entire catch of fur seals on the coast; while in Behring's Sea the catcli does not exceed 1 per cent. But they cannot deny the fact that over GO per cent, of the entire catch of Behring's Sea is made up of female seals. No. 199. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury.'— (Received June 3.) My Lord, Washington, May 24, I88d. 1 HAVE the honour to inform your Lordship that the steamer " Rush," of the United States' Revenue Service, has been ordered to Behring's Sea in order to protect the fur-bearing animals in the territory of Alaska or in the waters thereof, in accordance with section 1956 of the Revised Statutes. The Revenue steamer " Bear," now fitting at San Francisco, will shortly follow the " Rush," in order to assist her in this work. T have, &c. (Signed) J. PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 199. Extract from the " Washington Post " of May 24, 1889. Tira Alaskan Skal Pisiieries. — Secretary Windom yesterday signed the sailing orders of tiie Revenue-steamer " Rush," directing that she sail immediately upon receipt of her instriiction.s to Ounalaska, and then to cruize diligently in Behring's Sea for the purpose of " warning all persons against entering such waters for the purpose of violating section 1966 of the Revised Statutes, and arresting all persons, and seizing all vessels, found to be, or to have been, engaged in anv violation of the laws of the United States tlierein. Section 195(3, Revised Statutes, referred to above, provides that " no person shall kill any otter, mink, marten, sable, or fur-seal, or other fur-bearing aniniaB within the limits of Alaska territory, or in the waters thereof ; and every person guilty thtreof shall, for each offence, be fined not It-ss than 200 dollars nor more than 1,000 dollars, or imprisoned not more than six months, or both, and all vessels, their tackle, apparel, furniture, and cargo, fouiul engaged in violation of this section shall be forfeited ; but the Secretary of the Treasury sludl hive power to authorize ttie killing of any such mink, marten, sable, or oitlier fur-bearing animal, except fur-seal, under such regulations as he may prescribe, and it shall be the duty of the Secretary to prevent the killing of any fur-seal, and to jirovide for the execution of the provisions of this section until it is otherwise provided by law, nor sliiill he grant any special privileges under this section." The Commanding Officer of the " Rush " is also furnished with copies of the Act of the 2nd March, 1889, and the President's Proclamation of the 21st March, 1889, regarding the protection of the seal and salmon fisheries of Alaska, and instructed to enforce their j provisions. The " Rush " is now at San Francisco ready for sea, and will sail immediately upon receipt of the orders, which were mailed at Washington yesterday atternoon. The I Revenue-steamer '* Hear," which is now titling out at San Francisco for an expedition to Point Barrow, Alaska, has also been dtsignatcd to assist in the protection of the Alaskan tisherics, and will follow the "Rush" in a short time. Her orders are now being prepared at the Treasury Department. [128] I ■K yf" I . i : ■■•Ml 'T. I j^ No. 200. Consul-General Booker to the Maniuis of Salisbury, — {Received July S.) My Lord, '' ■' '" '■-■■'■■■ •■ ' > A>w YoWe, J«ne 28, 1889. I riAVE the lionoiir to inclose extracts, for your LoRlslii;>'s perusal, from the New York '■Evening Post" of yesterday, containing an intcrestin;; letter on the Beliring's Sea question. I have, &c. (Signed) VVM. LANE BOOKER. Inclosurc in No. 200, Extract from the Nevi York " Uveninrj Post" of June 27, 1889. The Bbhring's Sea Question. To the Editor of the " Evening Post." Sir, Salem, Massachusetts, June 21, 1889. SlNC'J'i the rejection of the Treaty of February 1888 with Great Britain, the ])ut)lic has iicard very little of fishery troubles on the old debatable ground of the north-west Atlantic, Init there is every prosjject that the absence— obviously a merely temporary abstnicu — from |)ublic discussion of the weli-ifiiavved bone of contention will, in a measure, bo made irood by taking up as a topic the analogous question pending between the United States and (iieat Britain concerning the seal tisheiies in tlie north Facitio, or, as our statesmen and writers prefer, for a very shrewd reason, to .say, in " Jiehring's Sea." Several Hritisb vesteis were seized in 188(i and 1887 by United Stales' Revenue- crnizcrs for sealing in Buhring's Sea (a part of the Pacilic Ocean,as I shall show presently), far outside of the <'?-inile shore belt, and these vessels were condemned by tlic United States' District Court at Sitka. So far as 1 am aware, tliere is no official publication -showing the position taken by our Government in this matter, so that we must full baek on statements in the press. The "New York Herald" of the i;3th October, 1887, pubhshed what purported to be a verhiiliiii copy of the " brief understood to have been prepared at Washington and recently filed in the Court at Sitka by Mr. A. K. Delaney as counsel for the United States' Government." The defendant's name is not given there, but obviously it is the brief' against one of the British vessels seized in 1887, and probably substantially the same i)rief was used against all of them. In a leader in the same issue the "Herald" refers to this brief as that against certain British vessels charged with violating our rights. Tiieic is 0(1 reason to doul)t tiie genuineness of this paper, and in the absence of other evidence, we may take if as a trustworthy guide to the position taken by our Government. It is there stated that the case is based on section 1 956 of the Revised Statutes of the United States, providing that "no jjcrson shall kill any otter, &e., or other fur-bearing animal, within the limits of Alaska Territory or in the waters thereof;" that the oflTence is ciiar,!:ed tobavebeen committed " 130 miles north of the Island of Ounalaska, and, therefore, in the main waters of that part of the Behring's Sea ceded by Russia to the United States." It is further stated that the defendants demur on the ground that the Court has no juris(iietion, as the alleged oHcnce was connnilted beyond the limit of a marine league from the shores of Aluska, and that the Act under which the defendants were arrested is unconstitutional in so flir as it restricts the free navigation of the Behring's Sea for tisliin!; and sealing purposes beyond the limits of a marine league from shore; that the demurrer presents scjuarely the ([uestions : — 1. The jurisdiction of the United States over Behring's Sea. 2. The power of Congress to legislate concerning those waters. Then follows the argmnent, opening as follows : — "The late of the second of these propositions depends largely upon that of the first, for if the jurisdiction and dominion of the United States as to these waters he not snslaincil, the restrictive acts of Congress must fall " This argument offers great temptation to submit it to criticism in detail, but I slial confine myself to the main issue. 259 It sttitLS that international law reeoi^nizci sois and wators of a certain kind as " land- iociicd or inland," and accords dominion and jurisdiction over tliem to individual nations. Qiiotidions from the text-hooks are then j;;iven to define the physical conditions recjuircd hy international law to constitute ;-nc!i lan-Uockcd or iidand sea. TIk se conditions may he siHiniicd up in Vattel's axiom : '"It must he entirely surri)untlcd hy tiie ti.rritor) ot' the nation claimini;: jurisdiction, anil must have no other comtnunic:iti::n with the o'jcaa than l;v aclianiicl ot'whicli that nation may take possession." .All ijerfectly true. The trouhlc is uiercly in trie " application on 't " to tht case in point. The houndaries of Ik'iu'ing's Sea are correctly given. Among them are enumerated ihe Peninsula of Kamtchatka and I'^astera Siheria, and then it is said, " It, will not he denied tliat at the time the United States ac(iuired the territory of Alaska the waters of tlie Behring's Sea wahlu;d only the shores of Russian territory ! " Precisely. l?ut, as Russia ceded to us only a pari of such ;:hores, and as she retained as her own a great part of tlietn, w'e are not in possession of all the sitorcs, and, consequently, we cannot claim " dominion and jurisdiction " over Behring's Sea under the above doctrine. Now as to the other condition shown to be the second reipusitc of a closed or landlocked sea — absence of communication with the ocean, except by a channel of which wc, as claimants of dominion, might take possession. That is a purely geographical question, to be settled hy rcfei'cncc to authentic Maps or Charts. The reliability of I he Charts issued by our Ilydrograpiiie Office at Washington will not be questioned, so let us consult its Chart No. GS, edition of May 1888, entitled "nehring's Sea and Arctic Ocean." Let us, for brevity's sake, assume, what is, however, not true in fact, that the chain of islands generally called the Aleutian, as far as they go, answers all tlie requirements of international law as an inclosing barrier. Wc then need only examine the sea to the westward of the most western of said islands, the one called Atton. The said Chart shows only two islands between Atton and the coast of Kamtchatka, and these intervening islands arc Russian territory. The respective positions are laid down in said Chart as follows : — Atton (most western United States' territory), west ex- o , , tr'-rnity of . . 52 57 N. 172 30 K. Co))|)er Island (ticnrest land eastward), south-east ex- tremity of 51 35 N. 1G8 05 v:. Co iper Island (nonh-wcst), extremity of 54 55 N. Hi" 21 !•;. He iring's Island, nearest land eastward to Copper Island , , . Point nearest to Copper Island, Capo Chitron 54 55 N. 106 37 K. Point nearest to Kamtolialka coast. Sea Lion's Head . . 55 1 6 X. 165 ■10 K. Kamtchatka, point nrnrest to lielirin^^'s Island 56 no N. lori 20 K. The usual method of nautical calculation shows the shortest distances between the above points to be as follows, to wit, between : — 183 "1 Nautical miles and Atton and Copper Island Copper Island and Behring's Island Behring's Island and Kamtchatka 183 "j Nautical miles am 27 > a fraction ove 23 J in every ease. The narrowest of these channels would admit of the passage of a fleet of over 100 vessels sailing abreast in a single line, even if deployed with a ipiarter of a mile between each two vessels ! Are these channels such as a nation can be supposed to be able to take pos- session of':^" In all other parts of the world our people have always been the strenuous champion of the freedom of the seas, and have oven claimed (sec Senate, Hep., No. 1(583, 49 Cong. 2 sess., p. 5) that straits as narrow as tiie Gut of Canso (1 to 1 \ nnlcs wide) Uuiding to seas accessible by otlier channels of sufticient width, were tree to our use. On this principle every one of the many channels b-jtween the Aleutian Islands, and eoiiiiucting the vea south of theiii with that north of them, is free to all the world. The best of all of tbcMi, til' Amnuglital'ass, is al)out 41 miles wide! Imagine the ridicule, the vials of wrath that uur put)licisls and diplomatists woidd pour out on any lui'kless wiglil who, stealing uur thunder, should undertake to prove that the Gulf of St. Lawrence, for instance, was l)y international law a liritith closed sea, landlocked and inland. And yet logically his |io,silion uuidd be intinitely stronger than ours is, for that gulf, iusignihcant in extent compared with Behring's Sea, is actually inclosed by British territory, aii'l has oidy tliree cliannels of communication with the Atlantic ! , , [128] ' '■ ' • a L J V" '»:' h'' ) 1 I, i; i f Ik t ( 260 There is a story of a naval captain who, on being overhauled by his superiors for not returning a salute fired in honour of bis flag, re|)iied that be had a whole number of good reasons lor the omission, to wit: iirstly, having no jiowdcr, niul who was tiierciipon immediately cut short by the remark, "That will do!" Yon may say the Attorney of the United States himself has rested his case on the ground tiiiit Behriiig's Sea is a liind. locked and inland sc:i. The contrary has now been deinonstratcd ; conscijucntly the niatt(!r is settled, and nobody c;ires to bear any more on so tedious a subject. But there are always plenty of good jm ople in the world to whom that would not be conclusive by any means, and who can only be convinced by having every one of the other allegations, however liopelissly involved in the preceding, or however absurd nr irrelevant in themselves, dispro\'ed separately and distinctly. These allegatioUs are, pinilv in ex|)riss terms, ])artly by implication, that (1) Beluing's Sea and the Pacific Ocean nrx separate and different seas; (2) that liebring Sea is not a part of the Pacific, and nehrini,''s Sea was the only Interior sea of the North American coast, and was held by Russia; (.'3) that Russia by the Treaties of 1824 and 182.5 (with the United States and Great Britain resi)eclively) abandoned her i)rior claim to jurisdiction over the Pacific, but did not surrender jurisdiction over Behring's Sea, and that consequently such jurisdiction descended to the United States thiough the cession to us of all Russia's rights by the Treaty of 1867. In support of these assertions, the "argument" asks triumphantly if there was a challenge of Russia's jurisdiction over Behring's Sea, why was it not settled in the Treaties • Why was a ten years' limit of mutually free navigation in the interior seas, gulfs, harbours, and creeks of each other on the North American coast accepted by the United States aiid by Great Britain, if Behring's Sea — declared by the argument to be the only interior sea- was part of the Pacific or belonged to the higli seas, and, therefore, free to all ? Why was the term inland sea used? The answer to it all is the same as that to so many other conundrums— "The boy lied." Behring's Sea was and is a part of the Pacific. The term Behring's Sea was unknown at the time the Treaties of 1824 and 1825 were made, and, therefore, was not, and could not be, used in them. When a distinctive name was employed for that sea, they called it in those days " The Sea of Kamtchatka "— the argument itself admits this by saying "formerly known as the Sea of Kamtchatka." The term Behring's Sea is absent not only from these Treaties, but from all. the prior diplomatic correspondence and from all contemporaneous writings. I could fill a page with the mere titles of the encyclopaedias, gazetteers, and geograpliical reference books, &c., published up to 1825, and lor many years after, in which 1 have looked, and looked in vain, for Behring's Sea. The name Behring, in a variety of spellings, occurs in all, as that of a navigator, of a bay on our coast (but far to the east of Behring's Sea), of an island, of a strait, but never, until long after 1825, as that of the sea, now so called. The present application of that name is of nmch more recent origin, and its general adoption has been gradual and slow ; but that this separate name should or could divest this sea of its old ([uality of forming part of the Pacific Ocean is an idea unknown to the seientitic world. Look into any lild or modern reference book, under " Behring's Sea" and '•' Pacific Ocean," and you will always find the first defined as a part of the Pacific Ocean, and this as beginning at Bebiing's Strait, thus including the first. I found but one exception to this, viz., the second edition of "Applcton's Encyclopaedia" (1873), which says that the Pacific is bounded on the nortli by the Aleutian Islands (Behring's Sea not being properly oceanic iti its charac^ci), and this is in contradiction to the definition of licbriiig's Sea, in the same edition, that being said to bo part of the Pacific. However, tile earliest ediiion ot the same work (18.58) makes tlie Pacific e.vtend from Behriiij:'s Strait to the Antarctic circl(>, and it again proves .ny assertion. Our own early oilitial Ciiarts, viz.. Pilot Charts of Lieutcniant M. F. Maury, United States' Navy (United States' IJydrograpiiic Olliec, l8.jO),sheetsNos. 2 and;}, series "A," covering the present lieiniiiij's Sea, are entitled " North Pacific;" the name Behring's Sea does not occur in them; hut on No. 2 the names of " Sea of Ochotsk " and " Sea of Saehalien " are given to those divisions of the Pacific. In the official documents and in the Congressional debates about giving aid to Perry McD. Collins (February 1802, et seq.) for his telegraph between Asia and AuiLniea v'a Behring's Stiait:>, enacie:! the 1st .July, 1SG4, Pacific Ocean is tin term generally, if not exclusively, used when reference is made to the sea now known a» Behring's. But to make assurance doubly sure, I a|)plied for an opinion on the question to the most eminent living authority in matters geographical. Professor Dr. II. Supau, editor of " Petermann's iVlitteilungen," who likewise says that all geographers consider Behring's Sea a part of the Pacific. I can submit the correspondence if desired. 261 A look at a Map or Chart of the region in question (which please to recollect eiiil)r;iccs not only the American shore north of" tlie Peninsula of Aluska, but that to the ei\st\Mii(l and southward of it, whether Russian, British, or of tiic United States) will show that so far from Buhring's Sea being the only inland sea there, this region is |)urticuiarly full of peninsulas and whole archipelat^oes of islands, and is eonsetiuently also full of interior scii8. pulfs, harbours, and creeks, and it is for that very reason that they were r.iade the subject of express stipulations in the said Treaties. No less untrue than the preceding assertion of the arguinoit about the " only iiilaiul sea" is the other, that the Treaties of 1824 and IR25 were a sort of give-and-take arraiif^c- mcnt as regards marine dominion ; that Hussia iibandoiud a jiart of it only, and had liie balance; conceded to her. Secretory Adams, in his instructions to our Minister at St. I'otcrsburgh of tbc 22nd July, 182.*^ (see American State I'apers, " Foreign Relations," second series, folio edition, vol. v, p. -K?f)), after setting forth Russia's claims as including the right to interdict the navigation and the fishery of all other i.ations to the extent of 100 miles from the coasts of Asia, from 4.')° north (round) to .51 ' north of the American Continent, says emphatically : — "The United States can admit no part of these claims. Their right of navigation and of fishery is perfect, and has been in constant exercise from the earliest times, after tlic peace of 1783, throughout the whole extent of the South Ocean, subject only to the ordinary exceptions and exclusions of the territorial jurisdictions which, so far as Russia's rigiits arc concerned, arc confined to certain islands north of the SDtli degree of latitude, and have no existence on the coast of America." And when you remember that in those days there was no such division of the Pacific between Pacific and Behring's Sea as we, or those who do the talking for us, now claim, it is i)orfeetly clear that we and Great Britain, in the respective Treaties of 1824 and 1825, carried our point for free navigation and fishery to its fullest extent by having it acknowledged therein as extending to "any part of the great ocean commonly called the Pacific Ocean or South Sea." And further to show that this was also Russia's view of the meaning of the said Treaties, let me refer to a passage in Bancroft's " History of the Pacific State," vol. xxviii, p. 583. In 1842 the Russian American Company urged the Russian Government to send armed cruizers for the preservation of Behring's Sea as a mure clausum, on account of the great extent of American whale-fishing there; but the Russian Ministry replied that the Russo-American Treaty gave to Americans the right to engage in fishing over the whole extent of the Pacific Ocean. It is hardly necessary to say anything more. To assert in the face of all this that our part of Behring's Sea is a closed sea, is nothing else than a parody on the old headland- line doctrine, a line, in this case some 900 miles long, from Cajjc Prince of Wales to Atton, and inclosing a " bay " stretching, at its greatest extent, over about 30 degrees of longitude. This may recommend itself to lovers of a " big thing," but legally and logically it is no less absurd than Russia's still longer headland-line of 1821, which Secretary Adams wiped out. Perhaps it may he pleaded on behalf of the Judge at Sitka, the Hon. Lefl'. Dawson, that he is only a District Judge, and that he was misled by the Washington brief; luit what can be said for our superior officials, the Secretaries of State and of the Treasury ? Were and nre they too misinformed on the geography, the history, and even the law governing these cases ? From time to time we have been told by the newspapers that the British vessels seized have been released, and then again that it has not been done. It seems to be all a muddle. The newspapers also say wc must, in self defence, prevent any one but the Alaska C'onuncrciai Company from scaling in Behring's Sea, because that Company pays our Government a handsom'' in it jit on the cost to us of Alaska ; that tiie seals there are all ours because bred on territory ., ' ourp, and tiiat free sealing would soon exterminate these animals. Imagine such v.rJrsi is and such untruth submitted to the Supreme Couit. The fur-seal are not !■', or even nearly all. bred on our territory. Mr. H. W. Collins, in his Report on the scai : -lunds of Alaska, published othciidly I'.s part of the United States' Census of 1880,, vol. xiii. No -12, Part VIII, says, on p. G, that they also breed on Copper and Behring's Islands, both Russian, and both leased by our Alaska Commercial Company; and on j). 113, tiiat 48,5t)4 of liiese animals were taken on these Russian i'>lands. But if the seals were all American-born it would make no difl^erence in law, as creatures roaming about the high seas are no man's property, except hi» «ho catches them. That " free sealing " might entail extermination of these creatures in the North Pacific, as it has already done elsewhere, is probable, but this gives us no right to make preventive laws, even of the mildest kind, (or others than .'\merican citizens and for '4 'M!. I',: I IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 1.0 I.I lAilM 12.5 ut lii 12.2 £? lia 12.0 |l.25 V^IA ^ 6" ► ^ y] / ^^' y y^ ^J^ Photographic Sciences Corporation 33 WIST MAIN i^iffl^y WIBSTH, N.Y. MSSO (716) •72-4S03 localities other than our own territory. Kvcn the Washington brief admits this. Inter- national agreement, and not tlie ipse dixit of ;iny single nation, is the proper remedy, if there be one. That free sealing might, and |irobiibly would, injure linrineially an American corporation, eventually, perhaps, even our (.'ovcrmucul,, may he depionihlc, hut will not be accepted as our justification for interference with tiic rights of otlier nations, involvinj; the infliction of injustice on individual foreigners. The whole coinsc of om- Government, its action as well as its inaction, in this matter is open to severe critieisui. it looks as if, in titis matter, we repudiated all our traditional and sterling maxims of iutcriiational oblij^atious, as if we had substituted for our old trusty and trusted moral compass a new one, and that one subject to tlic most astoundins; variations, according to locality — variations eclipsing in scope any similar performance of the mariner's compass. Within certain moderate limits, there may be as good local reason for the variations of the moral compass as for those of the mariner's instrument; but an absolute turning end for end, an inversion of north and south, of right and wrong, the claim that a general principle of law has one effect here and the opposite effect elsewhere, will not be acce|)ted, in either navigation or law, by cither experts or merely common-sense people. When the captain tiuds that the card of liis compass calls timt north which the sun in the heavens proves to be the south, you cannot fool the captain into believing that compass. lie will tell you that, though the needle is as right as ever, somebody has been "monkeying" with the ivud. He will at once correct the falsification. The sooner Uncle Sam goes and does likewise in this Pacific contention the better for ull concerned, and particularly for the internutioual reputation of our country as an upright, a fair-dealing, a just people. (Signed) Robert Uayner. No. 201. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received July 27.) Sir, Downing Street, July 27, 1889. WITH reference to previous correspondence, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, with its inclosurcs, urging the desirability of such steps being taken as wiA secure reparation for the damages sustained by scalers of the Dominion, in consequence of the seizure of Canadian sealing-vessels in Bchring's Sea, and the withdrawal of the claim advanced by the Government of the United States to exclusive jurisdiction over the waters of that sea. As Lord Salisbury is aware that a considerable delay has occurred in the presentation of these claims. Lord Knutsford would suggest that the claims should bo presented to the United States' Government at an early date, unless there aro strong reasons of policy against this course. I am, &c. (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. Inclosurc 1 in No. 201. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. ' My Lord, New Richmond, P. Q., June 12, 1889. WITH reference to previous correspondence on the subject of the seizures of Canadian sealing-vessels in Bchring's Sea, 1 have the honour to forward to your I,ordsliip a copy of an approved Minute of my Pi ivy Council concurring in a Report submitted by the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, who deals fully with the whole (juestion of tiiise seizures, and strongly urges the desirability of such steps being ' kcii by Her Majesty's Government as shall secure full reparation for the damages sustained by Canadian sealers, and the retraction of the claim advanced by the United States' Government to exclusive jurisdiction over the waters of Bchring's Sea. ., t,/ I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. i>> ^l.^"- ■ • -' I, ' -•}j< ■■ "«l.ill I.:,:*. ' i!,f ;■.,., '1 i/^i.i ii.. 263 Inclosure 2 in No. 201. iiO iBBRT KaYNER. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by hia Excellency the Governor-General in Council on the 4th June, 18S9. ON a Report, dated the 27tli May, 1889, from the Minister of Mnrinc and Fisheries, submitting; tiic following resuni6 and rccotnmcndation relating to the Canadian vessels seized in or ordered away from the BehringV Sea hy United States' authorities. So far back as the month of September 188(i, the Canadian Government first called attention of the Imperial authorities to this action on the part of the United States, and in a Minute of Council approved by your Excellency on the 29th November, 1886, the desire was then expressed that immediate reparation should be demanded for such wanton and unjustifiable acts. On the 29th November, 1887, a Minute of Council was approved by your Excellency, in which the revised claims of the owners of the schooners "Thornton " and " Carolena" are stated in detail, and directing that thr claims should be forwarded to the Secretary of State for the Colonies for transmission to the United States' Qovernment. On the 20th December, 1887, a further Minute of Council was adopted having reference to the claim of the owner of the schooner " Onward " and recommending that a claim for damages be forwarded in a similar manner to the Government of the United States. These vessels the Minister is informed are still laid up on the beach at Ounalaska, and are in an advanced stage of decay. On the 30th December, 1887, a subsequent Minute was adopted by the Privy Council, having reference to the claim of the owner of the schooner " Favorite," which vessel was, on the 2nd August, 1886, while sealing in Hehring, ordered away by the United States' Revenue-cutter "Oorwin " under threat of seizure. A claim for damages was also transmitted in this case in like manner as in others. A Report was adojjtcd on the 30th December, 1887, having reference to the seizui-c of the schooner " \V. P. Snvward," 9th July, 1887; "Grace," I7th July, IH87 ; "Anna Beck," 2nd July, 1887; "■Dolphin," 12th July, 1887; "Alfred Adams," Olh August, 1887 ; and " Ada," 2oth August, 1887, and embodied the claims connected therewith which were recommended to be lorwarded through tlic Imperial Government for immediate settlement. Further revised claims for personal damages, for illegal arrest and imprisonment were lorwarded under an approved Minute of Council of ihe Tith Janu.iry. 1S88, to the Imperial Government in connection with the seizures in liie year 1886, as lollows ; — HERBERT. Hans Gutturniscii, miuitcr . Henry Norman, mate ■lames Ogilvie, niostor Jniues Ulack, mute Dnniel Munroe, master John Margoticli, mute Schooner " Tkornlon.' Schooner " Carolina." Schooner " Onward." Dollars. 4,000 2,500 2,500 2,500 'ri- 1,000 2,800 '" ' '-'f " PRESTON. The personal claims of the masters and imites tif the vessels seized in li^87 were leeommendcd lor transmission by a Miimte of Couitcii of the 12th January, hS88, as lollov.s : — Schooner "Dolphin,' -, . J. D. Warren, master Jolin Ueilly, mate Oeorgc K. Fcrcy, ninrter A. I>. Laing, mate LouiH Oliien, nia.stcr Miehael Keefc, mute William Petit, tnnsttr Charles A. Ludbcrg, mate. . Schooner " W. P. Sayunrd." < • ■ • • • • • Schooner *' ^race/* . • • • • • • •• Schooner ''Ada." | j^^; ^.^^ Uollnri. 2.(i;)5 ),0(I0 2,000 1,000 U.OOO 1. 000 2,000 2,000 1 264 One vcsspI was released on the ISth May, 1888, under a bond, viz., tlic scliodner " W. P. Sayward ;" the owners oi che other vessels (except the " Ada " for which no owner could be found) considered that the appraisement was larf^cly in excess of the value of tiie vessels. The Marshal of the United States* urt was also of that opinion, and a reappraise. nient was sought from the American Government but refused. The Minister has recently been advised that the schooners " Grace," " Anna Heck," " Dolphin," and " Ada" were sold by direction of the United States' Government on tiie 26th March last, the cargoes, supplies, and outfits of all the seized vessels bavinu; been previously disposed of. The Minister further submits that in a despatch from the Colonial Office, under date the '29th March, 1888, stating that the Law Officers of the Crown were of the opinion that " in lespect of the schooner ' Favorite,' warned to cease operations under threat of seizure, the simple question is whether the threat was intended to be put into force, and whether she bond fide ceased to fish in consequence. There can be little doubt that botii questions would be answered in her favour, and in her case also, a claim should be pressed, though the measure of damages will be different from that in the case of the other vessels and would, in the absence of special circumstances, be the actual loss occasioned by reason of tie interruption of the fishing." The same despatch referring to the cases of the " W. P. Sayward," "Grace," "Anna Beck," *' Alfred Adams," "Dolphin," ami "Ada," seized in the Behring's Sea during the season of 1887, says, upon the facts laid before the Law Officers, these seizures were, in their opinion, unwarranted, and the claims for compensation can be pressed. It may here be mentioned that in the case of the ** Alfred Adams " the circumstanccf are somewhat exceptional. This vessel was seized, and ordered by the United Statet' authorities to report to the United States' Marshal at Sitka ; instead of which the cii|)tain sailed for Victoria, thus escaping detention and loss further than that of being obliged to relinquish his sealing voyage. The Minister desires to draw attention to the concise and forcible presentation of the Canadian ease against the United States contained in the despatch from his Lordshifi the Marquis of Salisbury to f5ir Lionel Saekville West, under date the lOtii September, 1887, wherein Lord Salisbury deals with the claim set up by the late Administration of tlie United States to the authority of that country in the Behring's Sea, under the Treaty of Cession with Russia hereinafter mentioned, including those waters at a distance from land far in excess of the ordinary limit of maritime jurisdiction. The Marquis of Salisbury, in tliit despatch, remarks: "Nearly four months have elapsed without any definite informatiou being furnished by the United States' Govern- ment, as to the grounds of the seizures. My predecessor instructed you on tlic 8th January last, to express to Mr. Bayard the concern of Her Majesty's Government at the delay, and to urge the inmiediate attention of the United States' Government to the action of the American authorities in their treatment of these vessels and of their masters and crews." And again : " Her Majesty's Government have carefully considered the transcript record of the judicial proceedings in the United States' District Court, in the several cases of the schooners 'Carolena,' 'Onward,' and 'Thornton,* which were com. munieated to you in July, and were transmitted to me in your despatch No. 196 of the 12th of that month, and they cannot find in them any justification lor the condemnation of those vessels;" and concluding his despatch his Lordship further stated: " Her Majesty'': Government feel sure that in view of the considerations which I have set forth in this despatch, which you will communicate to Mr. Bayard, the Government of the United States will admit that the seizure and condemnation of these British vessels and the imprisonment of their masters and crews were not warranted by the circumstances, and that they will be ready to afford reasonable compensation to those who have suffered in conse(|ueuce, and issue immediate instructions to their naval officers which will prevent a recurrence of these regrettable incidents." Three years have now almost passed since the American Government were apprised of the remonstrance on the part of the British Government against the claim set up to exclusive jurisdiction in the Behring's Sea, with practically no result other tli:in the virtual and continual exclusion of Canadian sealers from those open waters by the Government of the United States. Constant inquiry has been made of the Canadian Government as to the present condition of the claims of British subjects in Canada for the damage and loss sustained by the unjustifiable action of the United States' authorities. The Minister regrets that be has beea able to give no other answer to these inquiries 265 id a reappraise. els having beeo these inquiries than to say that the claims are still being pressed upon the attention of the United States' Government, but that no settlement has been arrived at. The Minister of Murine and Fisheries is informed that the failure to obtain satisfaction has already resulted in the financial enibarrnsMinent anil failure of Captain Warren, of Victoriii, British Columbi.., one of the owners most largely interested in the seized vessels:, while the sealing industry, so fijr ns Canada is concerned, which was heretofore prosecuted with considerable advantus;e to lahoui and cajjital, has become entirely paralyzed. He further observes that while the argument advanced by the British Government touching the rights of British subjects in the open waters of Behring's Sea has not been luet, recent expressions and actions on tiie piirt of othciuls and of the authorities in the Cnitcd Slates touching the Behring's Sea, taken with the seizures of Britisii vessels already referred to, atlurd a reasonable ground for the belief that the lievenue-cutters of the United States' Government in the waters in (juestiou will continue to treat these waters as closed. Great damage lias therefore not only been sustained, but is now being suffered, by British subjects in runsequence of their not daring to risk their persons and property in these waters in the absence, not only of a settlentont of the claims already existing, hut without any positive assurance from the British Government that, in the event of loss or damage again occurring tc them in the open waters of the Behring's Sea at the hands of the United States' authorities, ample redress will be o'otained therefor. The Minister observes that the lease granted by the United States to the Alaska Commercial Company in August 1870 gave that Company the right to take seals on the Islands of St. George and St. Paul only. It appears that it is claimed by the United States' authorities that the supply 00 these islands began to diminish in consequence of the number killed and taken in the open sea.* In 1879 a Notice was published by the Treasury Department at Washington, calling; attention to section 1956 of the Revised Statutes of the United States for the purpose apparently of prohibiting American citizens t'rom interfering with the rights of the Alaska Commercial Company under its Cont -act with the United States.f Notwitiistandi'.ig the statement in the Keport of the Committee of the House of RepresentativesJ hereinafter referred to, "that .American citizens respected the law and the publisiied Notice of the Secretary of State of the Treasury, and made no attempt to take seas," the list of seizures appended to that llepQrt§ shows that an American schooner was seizled in 1886 and seven American schooners were seized in 1887 for the violation of the section of the Revised Statutes mentioned in the Notice. The bold attempt of the United States to make Behring's Sea a wan- clnusum occurred in 188G bv the seizure of the British schooners "Thornton " "Carolena,'' and "Onward." It will be remembered that in 1887 .VIr. Bayard wrote to Sir I.. S. Sackville West referring to the Alaskan waters and the Regulations and Orders to United States' vessels to protect them as follows : — "The Laws of the United Stti'ics in this behalf are contained in the Revised Statutes relating to Alaska in sections Uu6 to 1971, and have been in force for upwards of seventeen years. "The question of instructions to Government vessels in regard to preventing the indiscriminate killing of fur-seals is now being considered, and I will inform you at the earliest dav possible what has been decided, so that British and otiier vessels visiting the waters in question can govern themselves accordingly." The Minister is not aware that any information has been communicated by che Secretary of State Department of the United States' (Jovernment as protuised, " so that British and other vessels visiting the waters in question could govern themselves accordingly," but the following Circular appears to have been issued in Washington in the year 1888:— " Treasury Deparlment, Office of the Secretari), "Dear Sir, " IVasliington,' D- C, March &, ISSS. Referring to the Department's letter to you of the 16th March, 1886, concerning th« scope of the jurisdiction of the United States over the waters of the territory of Alaska, and tile prevention of the killing of fur-seals and other fur-bearing animals within such, and as described by Chapter .3 of Title 23 of (he Revised Statutes, you are again requested to give publicity to the matter, so thai any parties who may be contemplating the fitting out * Krport No 388:^ H. K., 50 Congrrgg. Segsioii 2, Appendix (A). T Appi-mlix (f<) April 21, IS'!). X lifport Nu. fl8H3 tl. ](., Ml Cnnjrea*, Seotiou i, p. 5, Appendii (A;. S Appeiidii (C), Uabibit C. to «bove Uepurt. ■v; [1281 2 M 266 of expeditions to kill fur-seals in the said waters, may have due and timely notice of the requirements of (he Statute in the premises, as construed by the Department. (Signed) "L. H. Maynard, " Amstai.t Secretary "Collector of Customs, San Francisco, California." Attention is called to the last words of the foregoinjj (circular. The " construing of the Department " may he ascertained hy the seizures under con- sideration. The Minister would further draw attention to tiie Report of the Governor of Ahiski* for the year 1888,* wherein he argues that the monopoly of the seal fishery in Bohring's Sen will be lost if the Government of the United States does not assert exclusive jurisdiction beyond the 3-mile limit. In this Report, after expressing his fear that the British sealing-vessels will again visit the open waters of Behring's Sea, and capture seals, the Governor calls for an aniiotincf- ment of the " policy and determination of the r-'overnmcnt in the maticr of their jto- tection." Subsequently, and during the ROth Session of the House of Representatives, the Committee on Marine and Fisheries was directed "to fully investigate and report upon the nature and extent of the rights and interests of the United States in the fur-seals and other fisheries in the Belli ing's Sea in Alaska; whether and to what extent the same had been violated ; and by whom : and what, if any, legislation is necessary for tiie better protection and preservation of the same.' The Committee repoitecit upholding the claim of the United States to jurisdiction over all waters and land included in the Treaty of Cession by Russia to the United Stnte?, and construing different Acts of Congress as completing the claim of national territorial rights to cover the ojien waters of Behring's Sea outside of the 3-mile limit. The concluding portion of the Report, among other things, states as follows : — "'J'hat the chief object of the purchase of iVlaska was the acquisition of the valuahlc products of the Behring's Sea. "Tliiit at the date of the cession of Alaska to the United States, Russia's title to Behring's Sea was perfect and undisputed. "That hy virtue of the Treaty r,f Cession the United States iicquired complete tille to all that portion of Behring's Sea situated within the limits prescribed hy the Treaty. "The Committee herewith report a Billt nnikingnecessary amendments of the existing Law relating to these subjects, smd recommend its passage." Herewith appended is a copy of the Bill H. R. 12,432, introduced as directed hy this Report, together with an extract from tlie "Congressional Record " relating to the sanic § The Proclamation of the President of the United States was issued op liie 21jt March, 1889, of which a copy is appended to this Re|)ort.|| This Proclamation tiikes the place of the Notice already quoted, first recitin; section 1,96(5 of the Revised Statut''s and then section ^ of the Act, entitled "An Art to provide for the Protection of the Salmon Fisheries of Aliiska,"^[ which is as follows :- "Section 3. That section l,!)f)K ot the Revised Statutes of the United States is hereby declared to include and apply lo all the dominion of the United States in thi waters of Behring's Sea, and it shall he the duty of the President at a timely season in each year lo issue his Proelamatiim and cause the same to be published for one month at least in one newspaper (if any such there be) published at each United States' port of ciitii on the Pacific Coast warning all persons against entering the waters for the purpose o( violating the provisions of the said section, and he shall also cause one or more vessr[ the United States to diligently cruize in the said waters and arrest all persons and sei/ej all vessels found to be or to have been engaged in any violation of the Laws of the United States therein." Then follows the warning as in Appendix (marked E). The Minister desires to bring to the immediate notice of the British Government th foregoing to show that while the wrongs inflicted by the American authorities upn subjects of Her Britannic .Majesty still yo unredressed, instead of withdrawing from tb position assumed hy the United States in 188G, the Government of that country threaten to renew the illegal acts complained of. * Appciullx (I)), " Rt'|)Oii of Oovcruor of Alaska for fi«cal year 1888." \ Rrjiorl No. ;i8!<3, fiO C'ongreeD, Section 'J, AfyemWs (A), .March 30, 1860 1 Bill, H.R.I 2,432. § Appenilix (A). II I'rncluniatioD, Marcli 21, 188U, Appendix (E). If Approved, March 2, lb8U. wsJi t 267 izures under con. tes, Russia's title to uoted, first recitin: Under tliese circumslunces it is nut surprising that the public mind in Canada has (jecuMiu excited if not alarmed by even the appearance of delay in obtaining full com- pensation for the injuries done to Hritisli subjects residing in this portion of the Empire. Adverting again to the Report of the ConuniUee on Marine and Fisheries of the House of Representatives, the Minister does not deem it necessary to review all the conclusive an»wers which have been given to the ground taken by said Committee, and he ii glad to recollect that the British Government bus never entertained doubt regarding the absence of the sligtest justification for the seizure of the Canadian vessels. lie may, however, be permitted to refer to the argument of the Comnittee of Marine and Fisheries before adverted to. Tiie contention of the Committee was that the only question ever raised between Russia, England, and the United States regarding miiritime jurisdiction in the Pacific had relcrcnce to ii section of the coast of the North Pacilic Ocean, and entirely remote from Bcluing's Sea. Upon this the Minister observes that the distinguished American jurist, Chancellor Keut, did not so construe the letter of .Mr. Adams.* On the subject of mare clnusum lie says in his Conunenlaries : — f " The claim of dominion to close or narrow seas is still the theme of discussion and controversy. PuHendorf admits that in a narrow sea the dominion of it, and the right of fishing therein, may belong to the Sovereigns of the adjoining shores. " According to tlse current of modern authority, the general territorial jurisdiction extends into the sea as far as caimon-shot will reach and no farther, and this is generally calculated to be a marine league, and the Congress of the United States have recognized this limitation by authorizing the District Courts to take cognizance of all captures made within a marine league of the American shores." And with reference to the letter of Mr. Adams, he further says : — "The claim of Russia to sovereignty over the Pacific coast north of the .51st degree of latitude as a close sea was considered by our Government in 1882 to be against the rights of other nations." In Regulations under the Ru.ssian Ukase of 1821, which led to the jorrespondence referred to, Russia expressly pretends to grant exclusive commercial and rishing rights to Russian subjects "from Bebring's Straits to the .'',1st degree of north' rn latitude; also from the Aleutian Islands to the eastern coast of Siberia, as well a*, along the Kurile Islands from Hehring's Strait to the south cape of the Island of Urup, viz., to 45° 50' northern latitude." Criticizing this, Mr. Adams said : — + " To exclude the vessels of our citizens from the shores beyond the ordinary distance to which the territorial jurisdiction extends has excited still greater surprise." The letter of the 2nd April, 1822, from Mr. Poletica to Mr. Adams especially shows that the long controversy from h'«22 to 1868 between the Russian and American Governments was not confined, as the Committee of Marine and Fisheries says, " to that section of the coast and waters of the North Pacific Ocean between the Slst parallel of north latitude and Mount St. Elias and east of the 141st meridian," since in it, after en-ieavouring to |)rove the title of Russia to the north-west coast of America from Bebring's Straits to the 61st degree of north latitudi-, Mr. Poletica says : — "In the same manner the great extent of the Pacific Ocean at the 41st degree of latitude cannot invalidate the right which llussia may have of considering that part o( the ocean as close. Uut as the Imperial Government has not thought fit to take advantage of that right, all further discussion on this subject would be idle." Reference can again be made to the letter of Mr. Adams to Mr. Poletica,§ wherein he stated : — " With regard to the suggestion that the Russian GoTernment might have justified ilie exercise of sovereignty over the Pacific Ocean as a close sea because it claims territory both on its American and Asiatic shores, it may iiutlice to say that the distance from shore to shore on this sea in lutitude .51° north is not less than 90° of longitude, or 4,000 miles." And to the letter of Mr. Adams to Mr. Middleton,|| the i^merican Representative in Russia, wherein he remarks : — " From the tenour of the Ukase, the pretensions of the Itnperial Government extend fa>, i m [1281 • March 30, 1882. t "Kent's Commentarits,' vol. i, pp. 20 and 30, 13th (diilon. X Mr. Attains to Mr. Poletica, February 25, 1822. § March 20, 1812. > V ,. I July 22, 1823. 2 M 2 J,il : I! m to nn exclusive ferritorinl jurisdiction from the 4r)th dejjree of north latitude, on the Asiatir coast, to the latitude of 5!° north, on the western const of the American continent, ami they assume the right ol interdicting the navigation and the flshery of all other nations to the extent of 100 miles from the whole of that coast. "Tiie United States can adaiit no part of these claims. Their right of navigation ond of fishing is perfect and has been in constant exercise from the eiirliest times, after the Peace of 1783, throughout the whole extent of the Southern Ocean, subject only to the ordinary exemptions and exclusions of the territorial jurisdictions, which, so tar as Russian rights are concerned, are confined to certain islands north of the 65th degree of latitude and have no existence on the continent of America." Subsequently Mr. Forsyth, Secretary of State at Washington, wrote Mr. Dallas,* from which is extracted the following passage : — " The United States, in agreeing not to form new establishments to the north of latitude .04'' 4(t' north, made no acknowledgment of the right of Russia to the territory above that line. If such an admission had been made, Russia, by the same construction of the Article referred to, must have acknowledged the right of the United States to the territory south of the designated lino. But that Russia did not so understand the Article is conclusively proved by her having entered into a similar Agreement (1825) with (Jreai Britain, and having, in fact, acknowledged in that instrument the right of possession ot the same territory by Great Britain. The United States can only be considered as acknowledging the right of Russia to acquire by actual occupation a just claim to unoccupied lands above the latitude 64° 40' north, and even this is mere matter of inference, as the Convention of 1824 contains nothing more than a negation of the right of the United States to occupy new points within those limits. " Admitting that this inference is just, and was in contemplation of the parties to the Convention, it cannot follow that the United States ever intended to abandon the just right acknowledged by the 1st Article to belong to them under the law of nations, to frequent any part of the unoccupied coast of North America for the purpose of fishing nr trading with the natives." The Committee having endeavoured to show that the correspondence between 1822 down to the Treaty of Cession with Russia had no reference to Behring's Sea, were compelled to reconcile with their contention the opinion of Mr. Secretary Boutwell, of the Treasury Department at Washington, given on the 9th April, 1872, wherein be held that the taking of fur-seals was not unlawful unless attempted within a marine league of the shore. Accordingly, Mr. Boutwell was called upon to explain his previous letter, and this he has attempted to do.+ It will be observed, however, that, while Mr. Boutwell now claims that his letter of 1872 referred only to that portion of the Pacific south of the Aleutian range of islands, the letter is in reply to a direct question from the Collector at San Francisco, iounded upon an extract fron\ a newspaper. I'his newspaper expressly states that parties in Austndin are fitting out for an expedition for the capture of fur-seals " in Behring's Sea." The Collector incloses this extract to Mr. Boutwell, and suggests that, as the seals reach St. Paul and St. George Islands uniformly by the Ounimak Pass and through the narrow straits near that pass, that a cutter be placed in the region of Ounimak Pass, where it could render most efficient service in preventing foreigners slaughtering fur-seals in the water on their way to the islands. Mr. Boutwell's letter conveyed his opinion that a Revenue cutter could not protect the seals in tiie narrow pass referred to, since they went in pairs or singly and not in droves, and covered "n large region of water in their homeward travel to these islands," and he added : " I do not see that the United States would have the jurisdiction or power to drive off parties gviing up there for that purpose unless they made such attempt within a marine league of the shore." It is impossible, in the light of the present contention of the United States, to suppose that Mr. Boutwell did not know that the slaughter of the sesds in the waters ot the Behring's Sea was the fear of tlie collector and that the suggestion of the latter waste prevent foreign vessels pursuing seals through the pass in question. { Notwithstanding this explanation, it is to be observed that no vessel of any kwui was ever seized by the American Government for violation of section 19.')6, Revised Statutes before mentioned, until 1884, when outside of the 3-niile limit in Behring's Sea. The list of seizures produced before the Committee is hereto appended. § • November 3, 1837. ♦ Roport ( f CommiUcc on Marine and l-i»lipri«<, p. 12, 60 CongreM, ^pision 2, No. 3883, Appendix (F). ^ Appendix (G}. § Appendix (C). frote Mr. Dallas,* The Minister of \farine and Fisheries feels niisured that arguments such as he has referred to cannot do more than aggravate tiie gituatiun and expose the weuknefs of a claim of jurisdiction which for nenri; Ihree years the Government of the United States have been permitted to maintain against the interests and rights of British sul)jects. It is to be regretted that some of the leading Representatives in the Canadian Parliament have already been induced to express tiie opinion that the British Government would not actively protect the rights of British subjects resident in Canada in cases wherein the United States were concerned, and while he, the Minister, believes such opinion to be entirely erroneous and unfounded, he desires to express the hope that these extreme views may be in nowise strengthened by any unnecessary delay in vigorously and eAcctively pressing the Canadian claims against the American Government for the illegal and unjustifiable action now under consideration. The record of the claims having been completed on the 12th day of January, 1888, and then forwarded to the Imperial authorities, the Minister recommends that Her Majesty's Government be urged to take such further steps as will promptly secure from the Government of the United States not only full and ample reparation for the loss and damage sustained, but also a complete and immediate retraction of the claim of that country to exercise exclusive jurisdiction over the wiiters of the Beiiring's Sea The Committee concur in the foregoing resum<!' and rccomtiiendation of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, and they advise that your Kxccllency be moved to forward a copy of this Minute, together witli the inclosures, to the Right Honourable the Secretory of State for the Colonies. The Committee further advise that the High Commissioner for Canada be directed to place himself in personal communication with the Secretary of State, so as to aH'ord him any further information that may be desired, all which is respectfully submitted for vour Kxcellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGKK, Clerk. Privy Council, riff Affenoioes. 50th Congress, 2)id Session, H. li. 1 2432.— (if^port No. 3883.) In the House of Represent.vtives. January 29, 1889. — Read twice, recommitted to the Committee on Merdmnt Marine and Fisheries, and ordered to be printed. Mr. Dunn, from the Committee on Merchant Marine and Fisheries, reported the following Bill : — A Bill to Amend Sertion, 1963 of tlu Revised Statutes, ami to provide for the Letter Protection of the Fill Seals and Sftlmun Fisheries of Alaska, and far other Purjiosix. BE it enacted, by tlio Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, that section 19C3 of the IJevised Statute.s of the United States be amended so as to read iw follows : — " Section 1963. Within oiw year j)ri(ir to the time when the lease heretofore made by the Secre- tary of the Treasury to 'the Alaska Conniiercial Company' of the right to engage in taking fur-seals on the islands of Saint I'aid and St. George, punsuaut to the Act of tlie 1st July, 1S70, chaiiter 1S9, or when any future similar lease expires or is surrendered, t'orti'ited, or terminated, tiie Seeietury of the Treasury shall lease to j)ropcr and responsilile parties for the best advantage of the United .States, having due regard to the interests of the Government, the native inliabitantM, tlieir comfort, maintenance, and education, as well as to the interests of the parties heretofore engaged in the tmde and the jirotec- tion of the fi8herie.s, the right of taking fin'-.seuls on the islands herein named, and of sending u vessel or ve.ssels to the islands for the skins of such seals, for the term of twenty yeais, at an annual rental of not less than 50,000 dollars, to be reserved in such lease and secured by a deposit of United States' bonds to that amount ; and tiie additional sum of uot less than 3 dols. 50 c. for each fur-seol skin taken and shijiped from the i.slaiuls of St. I'aul and St. tJeorge during the coutiinianee of any leiwe to lie paid into the Treasury of ti;e United States, and every such lease "sUaTl "bo lltltv Executed in duplicate and shall not be transferable ; and the Secretary of the Treasury is empowered to nuike all needful liegulations for the collection and payment of the sui-ie, and to secure the comfort, maintenance, education, and pro- t«ction of the natives of those islands, and also to cojry into full efl'ect all the provisions of this chapter, m i Jil m Sf9 t rxocpt tiH otluirwidc jinwrilKMl. Ami lu' hIihII jiivc at least sixty iluys' iiolicttof tlii! luttiii^ of Haiti Icaso l>y )iu)ili('utioii III at least oiii! daily |ia|a'i' pulilisliril in tiai riticti nf riootmi, Now York, l'liiladi'l|i||iD, Maltiiiiort', AViusliiii^toii, CliicnKn, New (JrliiiiiiH, St. hniiH, and 8aii KrniuuHco, invitiii){ liids Tni' Hi^ Haiiic." Soi- 2. That Mi'iliciii lil.'ii ol' tlii' licvisi'd StalutcH nl' llic Uiiitod Slatt's was iiitnndcd to iiicliiil,. and apply, and is liiMcliy det^lart-d to inrludf and a]>ply, to all tlio wuti'is ut' l()diiin);'s Hca in iMnsku cinlirai'cil within thi^ lionndary-linrs mentioned ami desrrjlied in tint Treaty with lEnHsiii, dated the .'lilili Marrh, A.n. I S(i7, hy which the Territory of Alaska \> as ceded to the I'niteil States; anil it shalllK! the dnty of the |'resid(>nt, at a timely season in each year, to is.'iue his I'roelnniation and eanse the same to he pid)lish(il lor one naiiith in at leiMt one newspaper pidilislied at each United Slates' |Hirt of rntr}' on the raeilie coast, warning all persons against entering; saiil Territory and waters I'or the )airiiiisi' nf violating,' thu provisions of said section ; and he shall also eanse one or nuae vessels of the UmjIiiI States to dili;;enlly criu/.e said waters ami arrest all ]iersoiis and seize all vessels found to he, or in have Iteeii, en;{a}{ed in any violation of the laws of the I'nited States therein. Sec. ,'l. TIait section hXi'J of the ituvised StatiitcM nf the United SUitus lie, and llio saiiio is henly, repealed. See. 4. Thid the erection of dams, harricades, or other oh.strnctions in any of the rivers of Alusku, with the purpo.te or result of prevent .1^' or impedinjj the a.scent uf salmon, or other anadroinous s| lis, to their spawnin-i-jirounds, is herehy cli'clared to 1h' unlawful, ami the Secretary of the Treasaiv U hereliy authori/eil and directed to eslahlish such JN'fjulations and snrveillanee as may he nfure.s.sury tn insure that this |a'oliiliitioii is strictly eid'orced ; and every person who shall lie found Kuilfy of a vinla- tion of the provisions of this section shall he lined not less than L'.Mi dollars fca' eacdi day of the continuance of such ohst ruction. Sec. f). The I'ommi.ssioner of Fish and Fisheries is lierehy eniiHiwered and directed to institute an investi>{ati(Ui into the habits, alaindance, and distrihution of the .salmtai of Alitska, as well as llic present conditions and na^thod.s of the fisheries, with a view of reeonuaendin^ to (^ln;^ress sik li additional lej,'islalion as may he necussaiy to prevent the impairiiu'lil or exhaustion of the.se vahiahlu fisheries, and placing' thee.) under re^uhir and ]>ernuinent uomlitions of production. AppeniUx (A). £xtract/rom the. " Conyressiunal JUeord," l»81t, ji. 2788. Fuk-Skai. anu Salmon Fusuekiks. RIH. DRUM from the Comiaiitec on the Mercliant Mariiui and Fisheries, reported hack with the amendments ordered hy the House the Hill (II. I{. 12432) to amend .section 11)01! of the Itevised Statutes, and to providu for the lietter protection of the fur-seal and salmon fisheries of Alaska and fur other ]iurpo.ses, which was laid on the tahle for the present, and the Hill uud umendiueuts and lliu acuom[)anying UepiU't ordered to he printed. Appendix (D). Notice. SECTION ]'.i,"iO of the Kevisetl Statutes of the United States provides that no person shall, without the consent of the Secretary' of the Treasury, kill any otter, mink, marten, sable or fur-seal, ur other fur-lioarinf,' animal within the limits of Alaska territory, or in the waters thereof ; and that any person convictea of a violation of that section .shall, for each oll'ence, be lined not less than 201) dollars or more than 1,000 dollars, or be imprisoned not more than six nuuiths, or both; and that all vessels, with their tackle, apparel, furniture, and car<;!o, found en;.,'aj;ed in violation of that section, shall bo forfeited. No fur-bearinj,' animal will therefore be allowed to be killed by persons other than natives within the limits of the Alaska Territory, or in the waters thereof, except fur-.seals taken by the Alaska Coai- niercial Company, in juirsuance ol their lease. The use of tire-arms by tlu? natives in killiuj,' otter durin;,' the months of May, June, July, A\igust, and Sei)tcmber, is hereby jirohibited. No vessel will be allowed to anchor in the well-known otter-killinj; grounds, except those which may carry parties nf natives to or from such killing grounds ; and it will Iks the duty of the otiicerB of the United States who nuiy be in that locality to take all i)roiwr measures to enforce all the pains and penalties of tho law against jiersons found guilty of a violation thereof. White men lawfully married to natives, ami residing within the territory, are considered natives within the meaning of this Oixler. jm ho miiiio is liorcliy, ApiKjiulix (C). Fur-tieal FinheriM of Aluahti. EXIIIDIT (". T,!flT of VpshpIs soizpil under orders of tlin Tmiwury I)u)iiiiiiiii'iit. OttF. V.'atvl R<.||«I. .Seiiinn VeiMl. (Jiinini inder. Kor vinUliiin or Sratlim t«.'>r>, K. M.— Srpt. 1. IHHt lUinliurnli «clioniiiT " Aili'lf " Ki'venuo cliaiiur " Curwiu " .. ('ii|iliiiii M. \ ll.aly. July 17. IHHS Amrrlcnn RrhonntT " Saii Dirfo " Ditto (■'apljtiii (J. k. Abtwy. Au«. 1. „ Uritlih tchiKmrr " Tlinrtittiii " Ditto Ditto. „ ., "C»riilim»" Ditto Ditto. Aui. 2. .. „ „ "OiiKBnl" .. Ditto Ditto. July 2. IRH7 •■ Ann. Beck •• Kvvunue atcamur " HukIi " Cnplaio i.. U. SliKiuml, .. V. .. ••Wm. 1'. 8.,».rd",. Ditto Ditto. .. 12, ., "Ikilphin" Ditto Ditto. .. Ifl. .. American irlinnncr " l,illy L." Ditto Ditto. .. 17. .. Ilritiah ncliiHilHT " flrmv " . , Dlllo Ditto. Auk. 0. .. Amerioan icIiiHiuur " Kllen ',, Ditto Ditto. .. 0. .. "Annie" Ditto Ditto. .. 6. .. Hriliih iu:liiMiiicr " Airnil Ailtmt " Ditto Dillo. .. 8. „ Ameriemn ichonnrr " A Ipht " Ditto Ditto. .. 8. „ „ ., " Ketuanil Anns" . Ditto Ditto. .. 18. „ „ „ "Han JitAt' " .• Ditto Diini. ., 2.t. „ "Alliel. AlKmr".. lli'fi'nue miimiir " Rear " CaptKin W. A. Ilraly. ,. 2.^. ., Brltliilnrhn(iniT"Aila" ., Ditto Ditto. Si|.t. 2, „ American «ili(ii)Mor ".Sylvia llanilji " .. For tifllation of Section 1961 B. H.— Ditto Ditto. June 30, 1887 Amrrican iclioonrr " Challenge " ReTcnue Rtcamer " Ruvh " ■• Captain I... 0. Hlicpard. Appendix (D). Rttrad from the Report of tlif. Governor of Alaska for tlieJiMal year 1888, to the tstcrelary of the Interior at Washimjlun. RUT wlmttiver inny lip the Cfincliision ii,t to tlio nilvisaliility or iiropriuly of coiiliiiiiiiiK tlie jiniHcnt poliny of l('ii.Miii<» tlui rookorie.t, tlii! i|U(!Htiiiii iiiMid hjvo C'lin^trnss little conci^rii if lliti (jliiim of our (lOViTiiiiiitlil t(i e\<;lii»ivu jcri^didlinn to nil liiiit part of l!ulii'iiii{'s .S^a cimIimI to il liy I'lissiii lit: iiul iusistud iijiuii iiitil iiiaiiitaiiitij. It in just ii.s t'ssi-iiliul, uvuii iiioru ho, tliat lint sitals mIkhiIiI \h'. piutucltid duriii;^' tliuir niiiiunl iiii<,'i'ati(iiiB tu aiiil IViiiii lliu islaiid.s, a.s that tlu'y .shuuld liavi; siirli |irot(;rtioii wliili; uii thu rookiiritis and liri;i;diiif,'-;;rouiid.s. I'lotuftioii within thu .l-mili; limit will not sntlici' to prcvt^nt tliu dupopulation of tho roukcrius und iiltiiuatit total extiuution of siml lifu in tint waiters of ISfhriii^''.t Sea. In vifiw of the fact that no seizures havo been niado tlio present year, tho iiiipres.sion has f;one abroad that hureat'tt^r there will ho no interfereiiuu hy our OdViirnnient willi vessels which may enfjage ill taking seals outside thu 3-niilu limit, and in ciinsei|uence there is a well-gioiindeil a]ipl'eUi!nsii)ii that next summer Uehring's Sea will swarm with sealing-vessels from Itritish Columhia and our own porta, aud luiless measures are taken to stop them at the threshold, incalculable damage is likely to be done to the rookeries. Tho views I entertain concerning what I believe to bo the bad policy of ItMi.sing the islaiid.s, do not blind me to the fact that here is a most valuable intere.st which it is the duty of the Oovernment to jirotect by every legal means in its jiower; it mutters not whetbi^r the present .system be continued, or whether some other and less ohjectiouable plan of dealing with it lie ado])ted. In view of the e.\isting impressiou aud the jirobability of a much more detenuiueil and destructive raid being made against the seals next summer than was ever befme attempted, it is very desirable thai the policy aud iletermiuutiou ol the Government in the matter of their protection should be speeilily and liually auuouuced. ! I Appendix (E). President Harrison's I'roclaitiation aijainst unlawful nualiiuj on Alaska. By the Tresideut of tho United States of Araorica : ' ■ A Proclamation. THE following provisions of the laws of the United States are hereby published for the inforina- tiou of all concerned :— Section lOutj Revised Statutes, chapter ?>, title 2, enacts that: " No person shall kill any otter, mink, marten, sable, or fur-seal, or other fur-bearing animal, within the limits of Alaska Teriitory, or in tho waters thereof; and every person guilty thereof shall for each offence be fined not less than 200 nor more than 1,000 dollars, or imprisoned not more than six months, or both; and all vessels, their tackle, apparel, furnitur,, and cargo, found engaged in violation of this section shall be forfeited ; but the Secretary of the Treasury shall liave pov/er to autho- rize the killing of any such mink, marten, sable, or other fur-bearing animal, except fur-seals, under such Itegulations as he moy pre.scribe ; and it shall be the duty of the Secretary to jirevent the killing of any fur-seal, and to provide for the execution of the provisions of this section until it is otherwise provideil by law, nor shall lie grant any sjiecial privileges under this .section." il !■' 372 Suction 3 (if till- Act t-utitluil "An Act U> iimviUe fur tLo I'rutcoliuu of the Salinou Fishuriet (if Aliuka," a[i|irnv(>it '2in\ Marnli, 188'J, pmvidttM tliiit: " Sectiiiu :J. Tli;»t oectinn lO'iO of the ItuvisoJ Stntutcs of tlio UniU-d StntOH in licrohy (lei'liircd to include uMil ii|i|ily tn nil the iloniitiionN uf tliu IJuitvd >Stittu8 in tLo wuturs of J<(>hrin(;'8 Hva; and il kIuiU be the duty oi' tliu i'r("<idi'nt, ill ii liiiicly ncuhiiii in curh yciir, to i^Hiie IiIb I'rocliiniiition and iiiiuxc thp HHinu to lio piilili.sliud lor one month nt IciMt in unu ui-WHimpcr (if iiuy huuIi tlicro liu) imlilislicd ut cuch Unitcil Stall's' port of entry on tlio I'ncitiu const, wnrniii},' ail {lorKonH iigiiinHt iinturin}{ lliii wattTH tor the |iur)iosti of violiiiiii;; tlir piuvi.iionH of said Ki'ction ; and lie sliall uUu causu onu or uiori> veHHcLs of tlif United Statt's (o dili^'onlly ciiii/.u tiu! said wattTH and arrvMt ail jicTHonH and .seize all veitHels fonnd in lie. or to liavo liceii, eiipi^'rd in any violation of tlie laws of the United States tlierein." Now, iljerelciie, I, lienjiiiuin Hiiirinon, TreHident of thu United States, ptnHuanl to the aliovc- recited Staliites, hereby wain all per^ions against entering tho wntera uf Uiihrin^f's Sea within the dominion of the United Slates lor the ]iur]ioHe of violating tho provi8i<ins of said section U.I06 Keviaed Statutes : and I heivliy pruclaim that all iiei-sons found to bu, ur to have been, enpi^'ed in any violiitiuu of the law.<< of (lie United States in said waters will be iirrvstud and punished as atiove provided, and that nil vessels so einplnyeil, their tackle, apparel, furniture, and car^joes, willb«! seized and forfeited. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of tho United States to U ullixed. Done nt the (Jity of Washiugtou, this 2l8t day of March, 1889, and uf the ludependeaco of the United .Suites the 113th. Bj tko I'resident, (Signed) BENJAMIN HARRISON (Signed) James G. Blaine. Stcrttary of Statt. Apjwndix (F). Extract from Utport 0/ Committee on Marine and Fisherif,<t, p. 12. IT havinp been claimed by tho Canadian nuthorilica in their brief relating to the seizure of Cnnadiiin vessids in Hehrinn's Sea by our l!uveuuu cutlers, that ex-Seeretary Boutwell had decided that the United Stales had no jurisdiction over i>Llr.in({'s Sea outs; le of the :S-inile limit, the atteutinn of Mr. Itoutwell was called to the matter by Ho..ouiable W. W. Katon, late Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Conunittee, United States' Senate to which Mr. Boutwell made the following reply: — " Sir, " Washington, January 18, 1888. "Since the receipt of your letter of the IGth instant, I have examined with care the letter addresseil to me as Secretary of the Treasury by T. G. I'helps, Ksq., then Collector of Customs at the I'ort of Siin Francisco, dated the LTnh March, 187:i, and also my ollicial reply thereto, dated the Iflth April, 1S7J. ill relation to the purjmse of certain jiarties to capture fur-senls on their annual migration to the Islands uf St. Paul and St. (icorjje, thniugh the Onimak I'ass, and through tho neighbouring approaches to the islands. Upon the examination of the correspondence, my recollection ia in a degree refreshed, and my knowledge of the circumstances revived. "Tlie fourth .sentence of Ml. I'helps' letter appears to proceed ujion tho idea that it was the liiirjiost! of the huplers, as their purjiose was then understood by him, to take the seals upon the I'acific Ocean .side of ilie Aliiilian range of island.s, and near the passes mentioned, and through which the animals were dcslined to move, and such was the view taken by me on which my reply was based. " Nor cm 1 now see that there is ground for any other reasonable construction of tho corre- spondence. "Mr. I'lieljis ap[iears to have apjireliended a diversion of seals from the Oninink Pass and the narrow .straits near thi.l pass, and his suggestion of a remedy was limited to the same field. Therefore, neither ujion my reculleriiuii of fads as tliey were understood by me in 1871.', nor upon the present reading ol tiie coirespondi'iice, do 1 ndmil the claim of Great Britain that my letter is an admission of any right adverst! to the claims of the United States in the waters known lis Behring's Sea. My letter hud reference solely to the watei-s of the Pacific Ocean, south of the Aleutian Islands. " Very respectfully, " Hon. \V. W. Katon, Washington, D.C." (Signed) " Gkoroe S. Bodtwb!-U Apjwndix (G). • ' , Extract from " r<ipers relating to Behring'i Sea Fuhcrics," Washington, Government Printing Office, 1887 Pakt V. TlIK following cori-espondence shows the position assumed in 1872 by the Treasury Departm"iit in relation to the extent of jurisdiction of the United Slates in Alaskon waters: — •' Mr. Pheljis to ifr. Boutwell. " Customs Hmtse, San Francisco, Collector's Office, " Sir, " March 2b, 1872. " 1 ilceiii it jiioper to call the attention of the Department to certain rumours which appear to b« well aiitlieiilicnieil. tho sulwlimcr of which apjieurs in the printed slip token from the 'Daily Chronicle ' of this date, licrcwith inclosed. " In nddil of nniitlicr wh timl, during lli fniiii I lie sontli niiiiiliers, and 1 Ali'iilian groin "The obj norriiw piissaj,'! Wilful Indiiins the iiiiiiiiier of "Tliii evil from llie deslri (li'slriiiiion of 10 tlie Iitl'inds I " Il is lieli thii' if tile)' II n II' iiiovi' north liiiiiiil.-^, and sill ii|i|ici<ili' the I'r 111' fiir-.seals. •Tlint (he till' Seals from t uliiiji is here 1 1 irviline derived Si'iielarv of tli lislli'lies. does 11 iitlii'i's I'loiii dii ^I'l'ielarv deem stcnin-ciitler \mi Oniiiiiik I'ass an " It is stafei i'\|H'ilition for tl I/)ii(l(iii iind the Hut a few days 1 .Villi h I'aeific" liT Hie past weel ■■Sir. "Your lettc certain rumours Mill the Hawaii and St. George tl evil resulting to 1)0 sent to the re; " A very ful Department, and inasmuch aa the homeward travel accustomed resor "In additioi off parties going the shore. ■' As at preac I you to comrauuic upon tho subject. Sir, I I AM diret I of Salisbury, an J alleged seizure [128] 278 " III mlilitinn to the novernl ftclioinus monliniuid in tliifl pnpor, information haa rnmu to thii Otiico iif nnotlior wliiuli in Ihmiik nr){iiiii/i'ii itt tint Iluwitiiiin ImIhihU fur tlin siiinu <'ur|Mi.s». '>, i^ wi'll known timt, iliuiiiK till' numlli of May luid tiiu cuily jmit of ■luiiu in null yenr, tlio fiir-Mciil, in llmir migration fruni ill'' soutiiwiinl tn St. I'liiil iiml >St. (icorjji' IhIiiihIs, iiiiiforiiily iiiovt' Ihriiii^'li Oiiiiimk I'li.s.s in liirf^ nmiil'i'if, ftii'l 'ilto tlirongh tliu narrow Htniita iiciir tImt pass whicii ^<(']lllrlllo suvcrnl smoil inlundn from Ali'iiiiiiin{roii|). "Tlu! oltji'ct of tlu'«o Miivcnil cxpi'ditioim is iiiic|ii('sli()iiali!y to iiitprcciit tlio fiir-scals at those nnrriiw piissa^'CH iliiriii)j Ihii prriod aliovo iiiciitioiied, ami tlii'ii', l>y iiiimiiih of hiiiiiII lioat.s iiiaiiiuMi hj Ai\M liiiliaiiM or AliMitian liiintors, make indisi'iiiiiinali! Hiaii^iik'r of tiidst! animnlH in tjic water, after the iimiiiier of liiintin^r se,''-otli'iH. "Tlin evil lo he ,i|>pieli 'iidcd from .iiich ]H'ncei'diiij;>) is not so iiiiich in rospert of llii! Iosm resulting from till' deslnietion of tin: seal« at IIiomc jiImi'om (alllioiii^li (lie killili},' of eiicli feniali^ i» in elVecl the ilolriii lion of two Heais;, lint the daiif^iu' lieK in diverting' tliexe aniiiialH from their iicciistoiiiud courHe 10 lln' Inlindu of St. I'lUil and St. (ii'oij,'e, their only haiiiit." in the Tnited Sl.ites, " It is helii'ved liy those who iiiue made the peculiar niitiiie and hidiitx of these aiiiniahs ii .study ilia' if they are hy any means Herioiisly diverted fidiii the line upon which tli(\y have lieen iiecustoiiiiiJ ii> iiicivi' nortliwanl in their passa;,'e tf) these islands, there is ^reat danf,'er of their si'ekiiij,' othor haiiiils, iiiid should this occur the natural HeliM'tioii would lie Koiiiandorsky Islan<ls, which lie just ,i|.|iiisiie the I'riliolov Ki'or.p. near tli ast of Kamsclialka, owned hy Itussia, and are now the liaunta (if far-seals. •That the successful |iroseciili(iii iif the ;i'>ove-iiientioned schtMiies wmiM have the ell'cct to drive ihc seals from their acciisliuiied course there i m lie no doiilit. ('onsiileriii;;, therefore, iilmie the dan<;er wliii li is here threatened lo the interest of the ( lovcrnnient in the seal lisheries, and the lnij,'c annual revenue derived from the same, I have the honour to siimkcsI, lor tli msideralioii of llie llonourahh: St'cri'tary of the Treasury the ipiestion whelliei tlie .\ct of the 1st .liily, 187li, n; 'm; to tlioae lislierics, does not anthori/.c his interference hv iiiean< of lieveiiue cutters to prevent 'c, i'^'Uers and iillievs fioni doinj,' such an irreparalih^ iiii.schief to this valuiilile interest. Should th ■ lloiiouralile Serivtary deem il expedient to send a cutler into these wuters, 1 wiaild re.speclfull . siijij^est that ii 4paiii-cutter would lie alile to render the most elllcicnl service, and lliiit it Hhoe.( he in I 'i" n'j^ioii of Oiiiiiiak ras,s and St. Paul and St. tleori^e Islands hy the l.'itli of next May. "I am. verv respectfully, (Si;,'neil) ' •■!.(!. V\m.v.<. C'olkdor.'' Ej-trml from Snn Frunnivo " Dailfi Chnmieh" Mmrli lil 1.S72. "It is stilted in n>liahle cninmercial circles that partiex in Anstrnlin ire pre|iarin}; to fit out an i'\|ieilition for the eajiturc of fiir-.seals in l!chriiij,''s Sea. The present hif^ii jirices of fur-seal funs in Ixiiulon and the Knropean markets has acted iinwerfiilly in stimuhitin;^ enterprises of a like character. Hut a few days a^jo we mentioned that a Victorian Company was ori,'aiii/.ed for calcliitig fur-soals in the N'lirlli I'aeiHc. Another party — an agent representing some K.tsUuii capitalists — has licijii in this city liiftlie past week making inquiries as to the feieihility of organizing an expedition for like purposes." M!! W'l r'is Ofiu, ijiear to b« Ihc 'DnilT " Mr. Boiitwrll In Mr. Phelps. ".Sir, " Trensimj Department, Wmhinijton, D. C, April 19, 1872. " Your letter of the 2.')th nltinin was duly received, calling the attention of the Department to certain rumours circulating in San Francisco to the effect that exjHiditions are to start from Australia anil the Hawaiian Islands to take fiir-.seals on their annual niigriition to the Islands of St. Paul and St. Geoi-ge through the narrow pass of Oniinak. Ytui recommend — to cut off the possibility of evil resulting to the interests of the United States from these expeditions — that a lievoune cutter U' sent to the region of Oniinak Pass hy the 15th May next. " A very full conversation was had with Captain Rryant upon this subject while he was at the Department, and he conceived it to he entirely impracticable to make such an e;:i>edition a paying one, inasmuch as the seals go singly or in pairs, and not in droves, and cover a large region of water in their boiiieward travel to these islands, and lie did not seem to fear that tli<^ seals would be driven from their accustomed re.sorts, even were such alleinpts made. "In addition, I do not see that the I'liiled States would have the .jiiri.sdiction or power to drive off parties going up there for that purpose, unless they made such attempt within a marine league of tho shore. " As at present advised, I do not think it exi)edient to cany out your suggestions, hut I will thauk you to comrannicato to the Department any further facts or information you may bo able to gather upon the subject. " I am, very resiwctfiilly, (Signed) " Grorge S. BOUTWKLl, Secretary." Sir, No. 202. Colonial Office lo Foreign Office, — [Received August 3.) Downing Street, August 3, 1889. I AM directed by Lord Kiiutsford to transnut to you, to be laid before the Marquis I of Salisbury, an extract of a letter from the High Commissioner for Canada respeolinf; the %2 alleged seizure of the " Blacic Diamond " in Behring's Sea. JJ [128] 2 N m 274 Lord Knutsford feels assured that the subject will receive the careful and earlv consideration of Lord Salisbury. 1 am, &c. (Signed) R. H. MEADE. "' Inclosure in No. 202. The High Commissioner for Canada to Lord Knutsford. (Extract.) 9, Victoria Chambers, Westminster, August 2, 1889. REFERRING to the interview with which I was favoured by Lord ^Salisbury, your- self, and Sir Julian Pauncelote yesterday, I be^^ to inclose cuttings from the London "New York Herald,"* and "Daily News "t of to-day, which seem to leave no doubt that the seizure of the British schooner the *' Black Diamond " took place in the open waters ot Behring's Sea, and is therefore in direct violation of the engajrement made by the United States that no more seizures of British vessels should take place pending a settlement of the present controversy. No. 203. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, August 5, 1889. I HAVE laid before the Marquis of Salisbury your letter of the 3rd instant, with its inclosures, addressed to Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies by the High Commissioner for Canada, calling attention to the reported seizure in Behring's Sea of the British schooner " Black Diamond " by the United States' Revenue-cutter " Rush." It appears from the newspaper cuttings forwarded by Sir C. Tupper, that despatches from British Colombia, giving details of the case, have arrived at Ottawa, and Lord Salisbury thinks that it would be desirable to obtain by cable some official statement of the case from the Canadian Government before telegraphing to Her Majesty's Re[)resenta. tive at Washington. I am to point out that everything seer.is to depend in this case on the precise position of the "Black Diamond" at the time of seizure. Lord Salisbury would also be glad to be furnished with the details of the case of the "Triumph," to which allusion is made in the newspapers, but of which no information has reached the Foreign Office. The original inclosures accompanying your letter are returned herewith. 1 am, &c. (Signed) T. V. LISTER. J I No. 204. Colonial Office in Foreign Office. — (Received August 9.) Sir, Donning Street, August 8, 1889. WITH reference to your letter of the oth instant respectinfr the seizure of the '■ IMadl Diamond " in the Behring's Sea, 1 am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, tori the information of the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a telegram whicli was addressed to[ the Governor-General of Canada on the receipt of your letter, together with a copy of onej received this day from Lord Stanley of Preston in reply. •; i; I am, &c. t. (Signed) JOHN BRAMS ION. _ Inclosure 1 in No. 204. Lord Knutsford to Lord Stanley of Preston. (Telegraphic.) Downing Street, August 6, 1889. SEIZURE of " Black Diamond " and " Triumph." Telegraph at once full informa^ tion, specifying precise point where seized, and all the facts connected with these cases. * Auguii 3 t Auguit 2, and '* litnndBrd " of »»nie dale Not priqied .B'j'rt .-.Viriiijtl i.i *' t.i;i:uii!Ki A^jiilU ■♦ 'Mii k) Tinsi'tr ! m\ rcful and early H. MEADE. lugust 2, 1889. isalishury, your- le London " New doubt that the e open waters ot de by the United i<r a settlein ent of August 5, 1S89. I'd instant, with its be Colonies by tlie zure in Behriug's 3s' He venue-cutter er, that despatches Ottawa, and Lord tticial statement of ijesty's Representa- the precise position of the case of tlie ich no information iwith. V. LISTER. ) August 8, 1889. liziire of the '• Ulacl( ransmit to you, tor was addressed to I with a copy of one I N BRAMSrON. I, August 6, 1889. at once full informal with these cases. Not printed .il hyntiv..: vj*!.*;^ titifi ar 275 Inclosure 2 in No. 204. August 7, 1889. "' "' ' Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. (Telegraphic.) CASES of " Black Diamond " and " Triumph." Newspaper reports appear substantially correct. According to private telegram from Victoria, seizure of " Black Diamond" 70 niileH from land. I have not yet received from Ottawa official Report asked for by telegram. No. 20 '■). Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received August 9.) Sir, Downing Street, August 9, 1889. WITH reference to your letter of the 18th April last, requesting to bo supplied with information as to the extent to which vessels belonging to British Columbia were engaged in seal-hunting in Behring's Sea prior to 1886, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, with its inclosurcs, upon the subject. Lord Salisbury will observe that the last sub-inclosure to this despatch tends to show that the shooting of seals in the open sea is not the wanton and wasteful destruction of seal life which it is alleged to be by the authorities of the United States. I am to request that the inclosures to the Governor-General's despatch, which are forwarded in original, may be returned to this Department when they have been printed at the Foreign Otfice. . .- , . I am, &c. (Signed) EDWARD WINGFIELD. Inclosure 1 in No. 205. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Neiu Richmond, P.Q., July 20, 1889. WITH reference to your Lordship's despatch of the 27th April last, transmitting a copy ol a letter from the Foreign Office requesting to be supplied with information as to the extent to which vessels belonging to British Columbia were engaged in seal-hunting in Belir'ng's Sea prior to 1886, I have the honour to forward herewith a copy ot an approved Minute of the Privy Council concurring in a Report of my Minister of Marine and Fisheries on the subject. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosure 2 in No. 205. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council, June 29, 1889. THE Committee of the Privy Council have had under consideration a despatch dated the 27th Aprd, l>'80, from the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, requesting information as to the extent to which vessels belonging to British Columbia were engaged in seal-hunting in Behring's Sea prior to 1886. The Minister of Marine and Fisheries to whom the despatch was referred states that until the return of the sealing fleet, which some time since cleared from British Columbia upon its annual sealing voyage, he is unable to furnish complete information upon the early history of the seal industry in the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea, so far as it relates to vessels belonging to British Columbia. The Minister desires, however, to call I attention to the Customs records at Victoria, British Columbia, from which it appears that the schooner Kate," .58 tons, Dutch Harry, master, H. Ogilvie, navigator, went to Behring's Sea in 1865 and again in 1856 upon a sealing voyage. The Minister observes that it is to be remembered that the sealing industry was carried on by Biitish Columbian vessels, in the waters of British Columbia on the north and north-western coast, as well as in the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea, the [128] aN2 . ^1 i . m \ \ I i4l till 276 seals at certain times of the year spreading ^vcr these waters and being captured in great numbers at different points. In 1 880 the fur-seal trade of tiie Hritish Columbia Coast was of great importance. Previously, and even tiien, it was difficult to obtain absolutely correct Returns regarding it, but it was estimated that 20,000 skins were obtained in the immediate neighbourliood of Vancouver Island alone during that season. There were engaged in this tishcry in that year the following British Columbia vessels, sailorE, and hunters : — Vessels. Tonnngc. Sailors. Iluptcrs. Favorite Onward Tliornton . . Anna Dccic . . . . . . , . Wanderer . , Alert Winifred . , . , , . . . 79 35 35 SO 16 30 15 5 4 4 5 3 3 3 40 30 24 32 16 32 12 Eni|)loyiiig 03 canoes. 260 27 186 It will be observed that of these vessels a number were, in 1886 and 1887, seized bv the United States' Government in Beliring's Sea, and form the subject of the claims now being pressed. In the season of 1881 between 13,000 and 14,000 skins, worth from 150,000 dollars to 180,000 dollars, were obtained by the following British vessels : — Vessels. Anna Deck . . Tliornton . . Triumph Winifred Onward HIack Diamond Juanita Favorite . . Mary Ellen . . Kutu . . Tonnage. Sailors. 50 6 32 35 5 24 18 3 12 15 3 12 35 4 32 80 5 36 80 5 36 80 6 36 65 5 44 55 5 24 Hunters. 483 Kmploying 14G cunues. 46 292 In the next season the catch was valued at 177,000 dollars and the following vesiiels were engaged in this pursuit : — Vessels. . Tonnage. Sailors. Hunters. (iracc .. 80 6 36 Dolphin 80 5 36 Juiinitu .. ,. 50 4 32 W. P. Sav«ard 75 4 32 Favorite • • 80 5 32 Mary Ellen 05 5 36 Kate 55 4 28 Onward 36 4 32 Uluck Dianiuiid 80 4 32 Winifred 15 2 12 Anna Ucuk . . 50 4 32 Thornton 35 4 28 Alfred Adams i 75 4 32 776 64 400 Employing 200 canoes. 277 ptured in great eat importance. turns regarding neighbourhood 'olumbia vessels, rtcw. 40 30 24 32 16 32 12 186 And in 1^83 tiie following vessels from British Columbia pursued this industis Voxels. loniia^c. S liloiK. 1 Iliinlci'!). W. P. Snywiirtl 75 4 32 Favorite • • 80 5 32 Mnrv Ellen . . • ■ 65 " 1 36 Kati! _ 55 4 I 28 Onward 35 4 , .*!2 lilack Diuniond 8U 4 ' 33 Winifred . . 15 2 1 12 Thornton 35 4 28 Alfred Adams 75 4 32 Anna Beck . . 50 4 32 566 40 i 296 Employing 118 CQ'IOCS. 1887, seized by f the claims now I 150,000 dollars lunters. 32 24 12 12 32 36 36 36 44 24 292 following vessels Hunter*. 36 36 32 32 32 36 28 32 32 12 32 28 32 Foreign Apparently and in the absence of more definite information at this moment available in the continual pursuit of these seals, it was after this that fur-seals were systematically sought in the Behring's Sea, as well as in the North Pacific Ocean by British sealers, for it is fonnd that in 1884 Daniel and Alexander McLean, both British subjects, took the American schooner " San Diego " to Ikhring's Sea, and that they were successful in the seal fishery. On their return they purchased the Hritish schooner " Mary Ellen," 63 tons, and chartered the schooner " Favorite," 80 tons, and with white crew, white hunters, and Indians cleared from Victoria for Behring's Sea in 1885, where they met with repeated Miccess, returning to A'ictoria before 1886 and clearing in 1886 again for the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea. The Minister further observes that attention is drawn in the letter fro:ii tiu Office, now under consideration, to the statement of Mr. Bayard in a letter addressed to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington on the 12th April, 1887, in which the following passage occurs : — "The Laws of the United States rcf:ulating the killing of fur-seals have been in force for upwards of seventeen years, and, prior to the seizure of last summer, but a single infraction is known to have occurred and that was promptly punisiif-d." In this connection it is important to note that the Governor of Aluska in his lle))nrt, bearing date the 1st October, 1886, and again in 1887, regarded the capture of one American and three British schooners apparently as the first overt act on the part of tie United States' Government to assert the claim lor exclusive jurisdiction over the waters of Behring's Sea north of the Aleutian Islands. Extracts from these two Reports, hereto appended, indicate as well that, in the opinion of the Governor, an indiscriuinate slaughter of seals had been previously carried on in these waters. In the voluminous correspondence touching the acquisition and Government of Alaska by the United States published in ihe Executive documents of Congress from 1808 down to the time of the seizures in question, the Minister, after u careful examination, lias been unable to find, in the various instructions given from time to time to Conunaiideis of the Revenue Service, or of ships of war of the United States cruizing in Behring's Sea, organizing a Government in Alaska and guarding the interests of the Alaska Conii ercial Company upon the islands leased to the Company, any suggestion of the intention of that Government to assert a claim which it had so vehemently disputed when advanced liy Russia. The Minister, on the contrary, has observed that while vessels Irom British Columbia and elsewhere were trading and fishing generally in the Behring's Sci, the instructions relating to the fisheries given to Revenue marine shijjs by the United States' Government until 1886 were confined to the protection of the Seal Islands from marauders wbo were in the habit of landing thereon. It is to be noted that the seizures of British sealers in the cpen sea followed the Report on the cruize of the Revenue marine steamer " Corwin " in the year 1885. In this Report it is among other things stated that a special look-out was kept for vessels sealing when shaping a course for St. Paul's. The Captain in his Report says : " W hile we were in the vicinity of the Seal Islands a look-out was kept at the mast-head 1^ ll! IS 'iP 278 HI for vessels cruizing, sealinj;, or illicitly trading among those islands." Having drawn attention to the number of vessels which sought the seals on the islands, and havin:; illustrated the great difficulty of preventing tlic so-called "'piracy " thereupon, the Commander concludes as follows : — " In view of the foregoing facts, 1 would respectfully suggest — "(I.) That the Department cause to he printed in the Western Papers, particularly those of San Francisco, Cnlifornia, and Victoria, British Columbia, the sections oi" the Law relating to the killing of fur-bearing animals in Alaskan waters, and detiniiig in specific terms what is meant by Alaskan waters. " (2.) That a Revenue-cutter be sent to cruize in the vicinity of Pribylotf Islands and Aleutian group during the sealing season." While the first suggestion has never been adopted, no notice nor Act having yet defined what is meant by Alaskan waters, it seems to be clear that, in accordance with tills Report «nd other similar representations, the United States' Government sent Rc/cnuc- cutters in 1886 with instructions for the first time to take sealing-vesaels found anywiiere in the great ocean called the Behring's Sea. Accordingly Mr. George ll. Tingle, Special Agent of the Treasury Department, reports from St. Paul Island, Alaska, .^Ist July, 1886, to the Honourable C. S, Fairchild, Acting Secretary of Treasury, Washington, District of Columbia, that the Revenue-cutters were then engaged in keeping marauders from landing on the Seal Islands, and that tiie Captain of the Revenue-cutter "Corwin," on the 2(lth July had reported having seized tlie schooner "San Diego," which vessel he calls an "old offender." He goes on to say: " This commencement of captures will do much towards breaking up tlie marauding business about the islands this season ; indeed, the ' Corwin's ' presence here has undoubtedly kept off quite a fleet of schooners and destroyed their unlawful business hereabouts. With the cutter ' Bear ' to remain until fall, after coming out of the Arctic, seal life will be protected from pirates this season. It is the only means by which good can be accomplished in that direction. I do earnestly hope the Department will see the necessity of keeping a cutter around the fur-seal islands every season from the Is'c July to the 1st November." From the extract in Mr. Bayard's letter it appears that he was under the impression that prior to the seizures of 1886 but a single infraction of the United States' Law regulating fur-seals as construed by the Commanders of the Revenue-vessels which made these seizures, had occurred. The particulars already referred to by the Minister of Marine and Fisheries fully meet Mr. Bayard's assertion, whether he refers to the violation of the Statute inside of the 3-mile limit or upon the waters of the sea at large. Attention may be directed to the Report of Mr. George Davidson, Assistant United States' Survey on board the United States' Revenue-steamer " Lincoln," to Professor Benjamin Pierce, Supenntendent United States' Coast Survey, Washington, District ot' C(dumbia, in 1867, wherein he says, when touching upon the fisheries of the Behring's Sea; '* Two or three small schooners sailed from Victoria and made small catcheR." And again, " In addition to the already acknowledged success of the cod fisheries from San Francisco and Victoria and our own experience, I add that of Captain Bryant, formerly a whaler in the North Pacific, and now an influential member of le Massachusetts Legislature, quoting from your notes of the 26th May. Behring's Sea is a mighty reservoir of cod and halibut, so that he never threw over his lines without bringing up fish in whatever part of the sea he might happen." It is admitted that Mr. Davidson is not dealing with the fur-seal fisheiies to wiiich Mr. Bayard specifically refers, yet the extracts from this Report appear to the Minister to be important, touching the general question of mare clausum, bearing testimony as they do to the undisputed enjoyment of the fisheries in general in the Behring's Sea by vessels fioin British Columbia long ago. The Minister desires to avail himself of tiiis opportunity to direct attention to recent criticisms of one of the most influential and independent organs of public opinion in the United States upon the position taken by the Government of that country as regards Behring's Sea. The Minister appends herewith a paper upon the " Fur-seal Fisheries of the Pacific Coast and Alaska," recently prepared and published in San Francisco, and desified to explam, more particularly to Eastern United States' Senators and Congressmen, the value of the fur-seal fisheries, which contains umch valuable information not adverse to the contention of the Canadian Government. The Committee, concurring in the foregoing Report of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, recommend that your Excellency be moved to forward a copy of this Minute to 279 [laving drawn 8, and having [icrcupon, tlie rs, particularly ons oi" the Liw iiig in specific ribylott' Islands \ct liavini; yet dance with this sent llc'.'cnuc- found anywhere ry Department, 6. S. Fairchilii, Rcvenue-eutters s, and that the aving seized tlie joes on to say : the marauding isence here has [ilawful business at of the Arctic, by which good lent will see the 1 the Isc July to r the impression itcd Stutea' Law isels which made heries fully meet Ue inside of the Assistant United " to Professor ton, District of leBehring'sSea: wiu" And again, ni San Francisco aerly a whaler in etts Legislature, ervoir of cod and whatever part of fisheiies to which the Minister to imony as they do a by vessels lioin tention to recent c opinion in the untry as regards ies of the Pacific and desi."ieil to usmen, the value it adverse to the ;r of Marine ami of this Minute to the Right Honourable the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies, for the informa- tion of the Foreign Office, and that a copy thereof be sent to the High Commissioner. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellencv's approval. .t , y (Signed) JOHN J. McGKE. C/erft, Privy Council, Appendix No. I. Extradfrom the Itrport of the Governor nf Alaska for the Fiscal Year 1880. Protection of Fur-Seal utul Sea Otter, page 48. AS those suizuvM liavc moat probably raised nn international question involving tlin ripht of the Uniti'il States to cxclusivo juri.idiction over tlni watois of tlio Jiolninf^'s Swi novtii of tlm Aluritian Isliiiids, and oast of tlio I'.)."iril incriiliaii, west loiifjiluilo. it may not ))(; iinliccoiiiiiif,' in nie to .sutt^^ust tliat niilcss lliat ri,i,'lit i.s insisted npon nnd maintained, an industry wliieli now yields a revenue, ei|uiil t(i a fair rale ol' interest on tlie amount ]iaid for tlie wliole of AhiHlai will not only be destroyed, lait till) means of livolilinnd will likewise be taken away from a larue number of jicoplo whom tlio (joverii- meiit is bound by nvory consideration nf liimonr and public jioliey to ])roteet. ] can coiiceivo of no other jdan by wliieli the, seal ILshories can be jiroserved than the one lont; a^'o adopted and now in veuue, whether they onf,dit not now to be yielding' ft very lai),'e revenue to the (Jovernmeiit i.s ii question tn lie discussed a year or two lienee. It is rea.sonably eeitain, luiwever, that unless our Goveriinicnt asserts and niaiiitaiiis tlio jurisdiction ceded to it by Itu.ssia, liie Seal Lslands will in a very few years In' robbed of all ]ire.sent or pro.sjieetivo value to any one. It is ju.st a.s e.ssential to the preservation of tiiis industry that the .seals be protected ayainst indiscriminate slauf;liter while on their way to nnd fiiim their breeding' places, as that the number to be taken on the ijhinds should bo limitoil, and every nei'jssary restriction iuiiiosed as to age, sex, and the mode of killiii''. • • • • • • Unless our ri<j;ht to sucli jurisdiction be waived or abandoned, seals once in I^ehrin^'s Sea aro aa much tht^ iiroperty of llio United States as the islaials tliemselves, mid should be no less zealou.sly i;aai'iled than are tlie Newfouiidlaud cod banks by the Dcaiiiiiion of Ciiiiiidii. Unless so fiuarded ciiartered rij,dits will not only bo impaired, but a source of large and perpetual rovcnuo to the (Jovein- iiieiit utteHy destroyed. Appendix No. 2. Extract from tlu Report of tlie Oovenwr of Alaska for the Fiscal Year 1887. Protection of Fur-Seal. IN connection with these seizures, from which it seems to me no other inference can be drawn than that our Government is (lotermined to assert and maintain the right of exclusive juri.sdiction over all that portion of IJehring'.s Sea ceded to it by Itu.ssia, I can only reiterate that jiart of my hi.st Annual iteport in which I essayed, rather feebly I fear, not (jrily to .show the necessity of such a ]ioli(y to the preservation of the sea-fur industry, beo the wrong its alKindonnient wouhl inflict upon the very consiileralile number of native people who wholly or in large part depend upon it for a livelihood, and wlioni, it appeai-s to me, it is tho duty of tho Government to protoct. In view of the fact that tho seizure of these vessels and their forfeiture has raised an international iluc.?liou of grave iniiiortancc;, I have though., it projier to include with this lieport a copy of the brief aabiiiitte(l by t' ' icen's (Joun.sel in the case of the liiitish schooners, together witli tlie arguiiieiit of the United States Attorney and the opinion of the Court, llonouralile A. K. Delaney, Collector of Customs, having been designated as special Counsel on account of the illness and suljsequeiit death of (Colonel M. J), liall, Unitei' States' District Attorney, represented the Governnieiit, and made what I lliiiik will be generally conceded a most able and forcible, if not wliolly unanswerable, argument. (See Aiipendix C.) Appendix No. 3. Report of the Cruize of the Revenue Marine Steamer " Corwin" in the Year 1885. ■ ;\ ' (Ex. Doc. No. 153, 49th Congi-ess, 1st Session, pp 17 and 18.) ' -i-^ DUEING the year quite a number of vessels have raidul Alaskan waters for seals and other fur- bearing animals. Among the number the following, with their catches, are noted : — " Look-out," 1,100 seals ; " Mary Ellen," 2,309 seals ; " Favourite," 2,0(i5 seals ; " San Diego," 1,72,'. seals; " Sieri'a," 1,312 seals; " Vanderbilt," about l,OJ0 seals; "Henrietta," about 1,200 .seals; "Alexander," 600 seals and 107 sea-otters; "Otter," a few seals and about fifty or si.vty sea-otters ; with the " Adele " and otlier vessels yet to hear from. , , . ly i: ! dii 3 i ' ! ,.Mii li ' 280 "Thus it will lie seen tlmt iipwnrils of ten vessels were engaged in unlawful sealing in Alaskan wntei-s (luring the jircsent year, nnd I am convinced that next yenr the nuinhor will be uonsidfinlily incrensed. " Ituniours are onrrent here tlmt the Anierienii f'ousul at Victoria has informed dillcrent jnnpli. that they are not proliiliit<'<l liy law from scaling in Alaskan or other waters, provided they keep iiKiro than I leagues from tiie shore. Encouraged by tliis decision and the success of tlic maratr.ling scalers during the present year, ]iarties in Victoria are lilting out vessels (two or tlu'ce being stcam-scliooners) to engage in the business next year. Not only arc seals killed out of season, but the}' are sliot in the water, and young and old, male and fenuile, killed indiscriminately, all in direct violation of ScctiiiiK 1900 nnd lOlil, Revised Statutes, and all tending, if allowed to continue, to drive the .seals from llicii regular haunts," Appendi.v Nri. 4. If'fi I'll III ini'x " Tii/i III Alii^lii," jip. llli iiiiil 117. (I'ldilislied at Doston anil New York in 18fi4.J SEA OTTElt ISI,.\N'I), lying about ."i miles sontliwanlly from Si. Paul's, is another landing-place I'nr the fur-seal, but oidy to a limited c.Mcut. Owing In the fact that it is not jicniianeiitly iMliabitcii.sniiii nuirnuders wen! in the haliil of landing (ai the cijiposite side, where llicy coidd nut be seiMi liiiiu St. l'aur.s, and killing whatever .seal they c<add luid, without regard In sex, age, or ccaidilinn. Tlic Company re|M)rted tlicse facts Id the. Sccr'tary of the Treasury, whn decided that Ihe inlcntinn nl' iju' Act under which the lease was antlinri/.cd apjiearcd tn be to give all the islands of IJu' group to (lie lessees for the regulation of the trallic and |irescrvation of the fur-seal. Then, as the Company mulil iint defend Sea Otter Island, the! loveinmeui, was asked to do .so, and now the ]iraclice is to lease a Itcvcniif nmriue guard there diirini; the sealing .season. Appendi.x No. 5. Exlmct from Home K.itrntiir Jhcumnil-i, '2nil ,Sin,-iio)i, iSlh Coiif/resx, 1884-85, ml. 2U. Letter from the. Secrefnry nf the Ti-enHwij rehitiee le, the Pvalection of Sen! mid Kiifnreniieiil of Lnirt in Alaulu, mill reemniiiendiiii/ nii upprniiritition of 25,0(10 ilnlltirs for the f'ereiiiie Mneine Sereiee in that Territory, Fibrmiri/ 24, ISH.'i. (Ex. Doc. No. 252, 48th Congress, 2nd Session.) REVKNtrE M.MlINi; Sehvice. — In this coiniection I beg to call the attention of Congress to tlic importance of the work ]perf(irmcd in Alaska by the Hevenne cutters. The seal lisheries yicdcl aniinally to the Govennnent a revenue of about .S(l(),0()(l dollars. The islands on which the .seals arc taken are protected from incursions of marauding S'e.ssels alone through tlu; cruizing of the IJevcmu' cutters. Appendix No. G. L'ejwet of the Crnke if the llerennc Murine Steamer " Corwiii " in the i/mr ]8,S5. (Kx. Doc. No. 15:!, 411th Congress, 1st Session, p. 15.) ON our arrival at Ounalaska on tlic 15lli, tja- steamer " Dora" was in poit, ami threes days later the schooner " Alatlie Turner " arrived. The "Turner" rcpa ted liaving .seen, ;hree weeks prcviuii-, :( schooner betwet^n the .seal islands and Ounalaska, and lIumgliL she might still lie cruizing in lli:i; vicinity for the janpose of killing .seals. Apjiendix No. 7. " Neir York Heriilil" Jimc 7, 1889. M«. Blaines "E.MnAHii.\s.sMENrs."— The '^Tribune" admits that the " Herald" is right when it assumes that the State Departnu'iit will lie embarrassed by the action of the jn-evious Administration in dealing with the Bchring's Sea ipiestion. That is to say. Secretary Blaine, if he undertakes to negotiate with England on the theory that Behriug's Sea between the Straits and tlu! Aleutian Islands is a land-locked or closed sea, will bo confronted with recent confessions by Mr. Bayard that it is an open sea, and that its fisheries are to k' regulated by international action of the leading Maritime I'owei-s. Very true. It is less than two years since Secretary Bayard invited a number of foreign Powers into some arrangement with the United States for the protection of the Behring's seal fishenea. Thftt 281 was II distinct ndniissioii on thu ]mrt of tliix (iovernnu'ut, nml a sjXieifir iinnniinciMuunt to tlio I'owcrs mlilu'ssetl that tlie United States did not claim oxcluHivp jurisdiction over tlio wators, nor assume any oxc'liisive riglit to regulate tliu fislieries. And in kcopiu},' with this view wiw tiie action of tiio (Jovern- me'it in orderinj^ tlie release of thu Canadian sealers ..eized by our crui/.om. Of coiirse all this will iiro. I'tly and with reason he cited against Secretary lUainu if he now abandons the jiosition and uiidw takes to maintain the contrary. but this is not all that will Iks cited against the Secretary to his " enibaiTassinont.' lie will be (•niifronted iiy thu fact tiuit the United States more than sixty yeaw ago emphatically denied (he claim of IliiHsia to exclusive jurisf'.iction, and never conceded that claim while liussia owned Alaska, lie will lie confronted by the fact that this (iovernnient asserted n similar )irinci|ile in tlie case of the lildck Sea a)id that of the llaltic. He will further be confronted by the geogia|iliiciil fact tliat iU'hriiig's Sea is an open sea, and by the uuivei'sal principle of international law thut lui open sea caiiiiiit be owned or controlled by one nation without tlie consent of other nations. La.stly, Mr. lUaiiie nil! lie " embarrassed " by the fact that he i.s the first Secretarj- of State to advance the claim that Hi'liriiig's Sea is a closed sea, subject to the contiwl of the I'nited States. Hut, says our wntemiiomry. President Harrison's recent Proclamation, which is ba.sed on the Act of Congress of tlie 2r.d March, 1HS9, " emiicdies the claim to exclusive Jurisdiction." Well, sujipose it lilies. Tiiat cannot helji Mr. lilaiue much in his controversy witli Kngland. A claim asserted by Ciiiigress or the Prc.iid"ut, or both, has no more international force than a claim asserted by the State l)i'pi»rlment. l!ut does tho Act of Congress of the 2nd March, on which the President's Proclamation rests, luiscrt the right of control over Itehriug's St^a ! It asserts the right of control over " all the dominion of the United States in the watein of Itehriug's Sen." Xow the extent of the dominion of the United .States ill those watei's is the very point in issue. The previo\is Act imssed in ISCiS, immediately after tho purchase, applied to " the watei's of Alaska." If the Amendatory Ai't of 1S8'.) was intended to a.<seit a lai'ger doniiiin than that of 18G8, to declare in favour of exclusive jurisdiction, will not Mr. Pilaiue be also confronted with tlie ai'gumuut that this claim was not asserted by Congress till this year ! Ilowover, we hoiie that Mr. Hlaiiie will be able to overcome his many ''emliarmssmeiits" in the ciiiitrover.sy. and to satisfy Kiiglaud and the other Powers interested that his claim is well grounded, lli'hriiig's Sea is a gi'ent body of water, and its tislieries are very valuable. If we can .secure control of i; with foreign consent, so mueh the better for us. liut it looks as if Mr. Hlaine liad a big undertaking oil iiis hands. " NeiP York HenM," Mni; 21», 18S!). TilK Hf.HHINii's Sk.\ Qi'ESTioy. — So it seems Secretary Hlnine liiw decided that Heliring's Sea is a jiinrc rliiit.ium, or dosed sea, over which the United States has exclusive jurisdiction and absolute eoiitiol. No one, native or alien, but the Alaska Company is to be allowed to catch .seals in those wiitors, and any vessel, American or foreign, found violating this prohibition is to be seized. Can Mr. I$laiue successfully niaintiiin this claim in the diplomatic controvere}- which its announcement must provoke ? (Jan our f Jovernment undertake to luiforco it without inviting a fiiruigii war ? The claim is against universally it>cognized principles of international law. It is opposed to the traditions and precedents of our own tiovernmeiit. It is contniry to the record of the State Depart- ment on this very question as recently as the administration of Mr. I'ayartl. In the law of nations no principle is more settled than that the high seas are the public projicrty of the world, which cannot be monopolized by any one Power, As Woolsey says : — The high sea is free and open to all nations. It cannot be the jirojierty or the emjiire of a particular State. It cannot become proj)ertj', for it cannot Iw jMissessed. It is clearly for the common bliiietit of mankind. It is a common pathway, separating and yet binding, intended alike for all. It is equally well settled that a nation may own and exercise exclusive control over a " closetl tea" — that is, a body of water either lying wholly within, or is almost entirely surrounded by, its own tciTitory. The jurisdiction of every country over the ocean for a marine league, or '■> miles, from its const is universally conceded. A ghmce at the Map will show that ftehriiig's Sea is not a clo.sed sea. it is a vast cx])anse of water more than 1,000 miles wide. It is not laiid-locked. It is part of the Pacific Ocean; it forms the wat«r highway between that and the Arctic Ocean. To claim it is to claim the high seas. The State Department now biwes its claim on tlie rights acquired from Uussiii when wo purchased iVliLska. There can be no question that tho United States succeeded to all the rights held by liussia. Dut what were IJussiii's rights '. It is true that Itussia claimed Itehriug's Sea long before we bought Alaska. But that country never had an)' exclusive right to it, for the simple reason that it never acquired, and never could acquire, except by the consent of nations, any such right. This Government cannot simply fall back on Russia's claim. It will be required by foreign Powers to show that the claim is well founded, oi abandon it. Russia's claim was never conceded by any other Power. On the contrary, it was emplmtically Jellied by the two foreign Powere most interested. It was denied by the United States, and it was denied iiy (ireat Britain. Itnssia yielded to this tJovernment iii a Treaty made in 1824, and to England in I line made in the following year. Our Treaty continued in forci! for only ten years, but we nevtir I imicciled to Itnssia the right it claimed. If tho State Department now undertakes to maintain Russia's ohl claim it will be confronted not I only by the opposition of Kngland, but also by its own record. Moreover, it will run countei to the inteiuational principle it has invoked against foreign Powers in numerous cases, that an open sea caDiiiit be exclusively cuutroUcd by any nation. ) H-i m fl28] 2 O ^1 ! n !| 282 Appi'iulix No. 8. " Fur Si'nl Plsluricn of the J'licijie Coaif and Altiaiv." THIS |)aiii|i|i1ot, ill cnimt'ctinii with lliu Climt iiK^ldwd, is (Ipnifniied to axplniii more pnrticulurly Ui our Kiisti'i'ii Scnatiirs niul Oonjjri'.sHiiicii tliu I'lill viilui' of thi' I'lir-st'iil lislu'ries, in nixlor that wlit^n the iliicsticpii of rc-h'iiHini; the fui-Meiil iHlmicIs of St. (Jt'oijic iiiul St. Paul arist-fi, thi^y mny know i^xactly what tht'v aic lioini,', .so that tiioy may iml fjniiit a monopoly to any firm or Coni)pany lor a trith', wiiicji ha.s luM'n ilonc in tiu' pa.st to tho Alasl<a Comniorcial Company of Sau Fnincinco. Tiii'st' islaiuis ari' so far away from tiio ea.storii pari of our country that tho jiriMit majority cif merchants ami l)usim'.s.s nu'u i\now companitively imthinn about tliis j,'rcat industry, and the profits comu'ctcd with tlu- .sanu'. The writer, durini,' tiic past two or tiirco years, ha.s met ii f^re.at nuiny ea-stern visitors to our cnnst, nnd whenever the question of thi^ fur-seal fisheries has lieen l>r(ai<,'tit np he finds that in all (Mi.ses tlicy have not the slif,'htest idea of the same, and whenever the value; is explained, and Charts shown, showins just how Imiad tho claim our Ciovernment has taken in its jurisdiction of the Behrinfj's Sea, in ]iiii- tection of tlie fur-seal, or more )iarticularly protectini,' the Alaska Connnorcial ('ompany in their viist monopoly of the fur-.sea! ti.«heries, ami by this monopcly i^naldinj,' this Company to control nearly all of the fur tiade of Ala.ska, they are astonished, and .still more when it is further exjilained to them tijiit the 100,000 fur-.seals, as taken by the Alaska Commercial Company, hrinj,' nearly 2,000,000 dollnrs each year, and for tliis privilege the fee to the United States' Oovernment is the small sum nf 2iH'>,L'8('i dol. 82 e., beiuf; the exact avemiie amount jiaid by the Alaska Commensal Company, and U) U' paid by tla-m each year, as claimed by the Alaska ( 'ommercial Company, during the twenty years of their lea.se. This is taken from the Alaska (junmercial (Company's own statement in their reply to Goveniur Swineford's charges (seep. 12 of that volume)— and these ligures cannot lie disputed by them — tlnis e, milling the Company to make a clear pii)tit of not less than 1,000,000 to l,2r)0,00CI dollars cacli year otl" the seal islands alone. ■\Vhen they conK; to ligme that this has been going on for nearly twenty years, it is easy to explnin how they have controlled all the trade of this va.st section. KvideiLtly a strong etl'ort is being made by certain parties that the lea.sing of the fur-seal isLiiiiU .shall be at the discretion of the Secretary of tho Tren.sury to say who is the proper person to lea.so llie,«o islands to, mid that a .set .sum shall be the speeiHed amount lor this k'u.se. lielow we copy an article cut from one of the daily i)apers, entitled — The Seal Fiihcrie.'i, (An interesting Repoi't presented to tho House.) Waslthujton, January 2'.'. l?epresentative I )unn, from the Committee on Merchant Marine and fisheries, to-day preseiitoil the results of the investigation by the Committee into the fur-.seal fisheries of Alaska, with sjiecial refereiue to whether the Contract giving tho ^Vlaska Commercial Company the right to take fur-seals liml been violated. Dunn accompanied his Iteport with a Rill on the subject. It proi)o.ses to amend tlie present Law by jirovidiiig that one year before the present lease to the Alaska (.'ompany expires, nr when any future similar lease expires, the Secretary of the Treasury shall lease to the proper jicrsoiis the right of taking fur-seals on the Islands of St. Paul and St. George for twenty years, at not le.ss than 50,000 dollars per annum, and 3 dol. 50 c. in addition for each sealskin shipped from tlie islmids. Such lease shall not be transferable. You will notice in this lleimrt it is reeoniinended that the Secretary of the Treasury shall lease to the jiroper persons. Now, the (piestion is, who are the projier persons >. Can any one read this Keport and fail to s(;e where tho interest is '. Why not put flu; lea.sing ofthe.se islands in a bu.siness shape like any other fioverniuent Contract ? Let it be awarded to the highest bidder, give all a chance, ami not allow this one iiian to decide who are the |)ro])er persons to whom the.se islands shall be leaseil. If it is done in this w.iy it is safe to say that the m;xt lea.se will realize from G00,00(l U) 800,000 dollars p('r annum to our ' 'overnment, instead of 400,000 doUars, as per recommendation of Jlr. I )unii. Von will also notice that it is recommended to amend the Laws .so that the Secretary of the Treasury shall not only have the power of re-leasing the islands, but that this Law shall apply to rniy future lease, thereliy extending tliis power to an unlimited extent, in fact as long as these islands are of any value for leasing. Who would not like to be the Secretary of the Treasury and have this power ? It would be aliiiost as good as having the islands themselves. Now, we protest against such action. It shows fraud upon its face so plain that a blind iiiau ought to see through it. This Report of the 29th January goes further on, and says: — ■ The present I^w is declared to ajiply to all the waters of Behring's Sea in Alaska mentioned in the Treaty with Kussia by which Alaska was ceded to the United States, and the President shall take measures to have arrested all persons, and seized all vessels, violating the laws of the United States therein. lu addition to the above provision is made for the pititeotion of the salmon fisheries. The Report reconimeiids that the Act to prevent the p-xtc-mination of our fur-bearing animals in Alaska ue S8d contiuueil in forco with au'taiu amoiiclnioiits, iM^lioviiiR that not only th« systoin it a(loi)t8 but xhe mutlioils of carrying; it inli> ull'xt aru wull ailupUMJ for tiio imrpuHu iiidicutuil, In uDiichisioii, tliu Coiiiiiiitteo HiuIm llio folluwiiiK I'lictH. — That if the liiiw prott'clinj; Hi-al life is eiiforcuil, tlic; pruHiTvatioii of tlio Mwil lookurieM will hv assured the n'vi'iiuo voiitiiiuwl and iiicrcasud, and tlio native iniiabitants nf tlie seal islands niaiiitaini'd, withont cost to llie Oovernmi^nt ; tliat thu Alaska ('((Miiiiorcial Company lias fully piuiornicd lis Contract witli the (iiiv.'rnniont, and haa contrilaitcMl lilicrally to tho snp))orl, inaintiMiance, couil'ort, and civilization of tht! iiihaliitants of not only tiu! seal islan<ls, Imt to those of the Aientian Islamls, Kodiar, and the nminhiiid; that tiio fnr-seal industry will iiave paid into the Treasury over S,()()0,()(IO dollars durinj; the period of the present lease; that the chief oliject of the purchase of Alaska was the acipiisition of tiie valuahle products of llelniii<,''s Sea, that at the cession of Alaska to the United States the Itussiau title to llehring's Sea was perfect niul undisp\ited, and that hy virtue of the cession the I'nited States accpiired complete title to all that poition of Hehring's Sea sittiated within the limits prescribed hy Treaty. In roviewinjj this part of the lie])ort we mv. not jirepared to say that the Conijiany has not fulHllefl nil of its ohligntions to the (Sovto-nniunt, certainly it shouhl have done so with the jn'ofits connected with this uionoiMjly. This jiart of the Report was, as we uuderstaiul, the result of an investigation uf the charges made hy (Joveruor Alfi^d I'. S'vineford, of Alaska, against the Alaska Commercial t'oiapany. We hereby republish (iovernor Swiueford's rciply, as published in various papers previous to this date : — (Iovernor Sinne/ord's lirporl. The annual Kei)ort of (iovernor Swineford, of Alaska, on the territory and the operations of the Aliiska Commercial Company was laid before both Houses of Conjjress on the lOtli January. The (Iovernor reattirms and emphasizes the accusations heretofore made by him against the (Jom- |iaiiy in its dealings with the natives other than those living on the seal islands. Concerning the treatment of the.st! he has no word of complaint. He also says that the Company's Cutitniet with the fiovernment relative to the taking of fur-.seal is, in his opinion, faithfully observed. The Comjjuny's treatment of the mainland natives he characterizes as unju.st and cruel in the extreme, Keferring to the denial of the charges against the Company in his last annual lleport, he says : — " T now and here reiterate every one of those charges, though 1 know full well that an inves- tijjiilion made by a Committee of Congre.s.s, holding its sessions in Washington, and calling as witnesses iiiily tliose who have been recii»ients of the Company's favours, is not likely to arrive at any just con- dusiiiii as to their truth or iidsit}'. I can only .say that each and every statement I have uaule lonceniing the operations of the Company is susceptible of the clearest and most convincini; , roof, but the evidence will not be found lying around loose in the cities of Washington and San Francisco. It naist be .sought for among the jieople who have sulfered from its op|iressions rather tiian in the [lei.wns nf tiiose who have had free transportation on its ships and been wined and dined at the tables of its iitticcrs and agents. A Siib-Conniiittee of Congn^ss going over the route taken by me in the recent tniize of the ' Thetis,' assuring the people of protection against still greater oppression after its dei)ar- tiire, will have no dithculty whatever in finding the evidence to prove the truth of every statement I have made." The ]{eport for 1887 above referred to was published in the " Fur Trade Review " for July 1887. The " Fui' Trade Review " can be obtained by addressing the publishers. No. 35, Hond Street, Now York City. In referring to tlie part of this Report where it is claimed that the fur-seal industry will have paid into the Treasury over S,0()0,000 dollars during the ])eriodof the present lease, we claim this part to be fiilse. The (lovermnent has not, atid will not, have rect'ived it at the end of the leii.st^ and taking the Alaska Commercial Company's reply to (.iovernor Swiueford's charge in referring to what they have [Mid, the Alaska Commercial Coni]iany says : — " As this part of the subject bears upon tlie Company's relation to the (_lovernment, we may bo excused for here calling attention to the fact that the total annual tax and rental jiaid by this ('(mijianyto the United States from the 1st July, 1S70, to August 1MS7, amounts to .''),290,73S dol. 4'J c. "Calculating that the full mnnber of fur-seals for the next two years be taken, we will have paid the full sum of 5,'.12r),736 dol. 49 c." See pp. 11 and 12 of reply of the Alaska (jomnuacial Company to the charge of (Joveruoi Alfred E. Swineford, of Alaska, against the Com])any, in his annual Report for the year 1887. Now, this is copied directly from the Alaska Connuercial Company's rejdy. Taking their own fijnu'os for the same, where they only claim they will liavi; ))aid into the Treasury at the end of their lease f>,92ri,7;i6 dol. 40 c, this leaves a difference of 2,0'j'4,2G3 dol. 51 c. between wliat they will iictu'dly have paid, according to their own figtu'es, and what is claimed in the Report of Rei)resentativo Biuiu. Now, We ask, why this false representation by one of our Representatives '. Having now fully shown why this Rijport, as reconnnended, should have no bearing — showing the fulaityof the same — we will now go further, and show the value of the catch of the 100,()()0 fur-seals, as taken by the Alaska Connuercial Company for the year 188S. We will also show nearly the actual cost of the expense to the Company in taking them, .sending to market, commissions, &c. While this is a difficult matter to do exactly, \w will come near it, and allow long nutrgins in favour of this expense, enough so that it will undoubtedly leave a balance in their favour [128] 202 1 !■;■; i «i i !;' i i '■''}, in ' iNri ti i 1: 1 284 III till' lit'Nt (illicit, \V(> taki< lliuir iivdiii^u iiiiiiuiiit piiiil U> llio Unvonimuiil, us |ii<i' tliiiir own I'NtiiiiuU' mill HtiitciiiiMit 'riiiM iiiiiHi lie tcnii'ii. W'l' llit'ii tiikr III)' iimiii'V |>uiil III the iiativi'H t'lir killing' iiiul skiiiiiiii); IIii'mi'iiI. Ill llii'ir ri'|i|y to ( iuvriiinr Swiiii'l'iirirs ilmini' (p !'.•) ilii'.> wiy : " Tlu'ii' lilt' H7 riiiiiilii'M on SI. I'mil IhIiiimI ; thcii' mi' L'li I'miiilicM on St. (li'oi]i,'o Ixlmiii ; iiiiikiiiL: IIM rniiiiiii'.'^ in nil." \Vi' will 'Xl\f till' lii'iii'lil of l.'ill (liilliiiH lor I'lirii liiniily. wliirli is llii' lii);lii'.sl |ii'iri' oliiinii'd IIS In'in;; |iiiiil to llicin lor tlicir .mirviii' (si'i' |i. Ill in llii'ir ri'|ily to (lovi'rnor Swiiu'forilH rlim'i,'iO. TIiih woiiI I i^ivi' lolnl fNiirii-^i' lor killin;;, Hkiniiiii},', curiii;;, innl loiiiliii^ into tilt' vcsHol, iiH paiil lo tilt' nativi'H This iillowM till' vi'iy lii^lit'Ml fMliinutf |>iiiil lor iIiIm sirviri', lUTonlinj; to llirir own llt'|Kirt. Wt' will now iniikt' III! iillowmii'i' of for (tx|M'nHt' of llii' l'oni|>miy on tlir iHliinil.s for tlit' vi'iir, inilt'|K'n(li'iil of tlit< niimi juiitl to tliti niitivi's. 'riiin is lor wliilf ilcrk liiic, iiiNnnint'i', iinti I'nr I'lii'l, iinti mi iilniiitlmil NU|i|ily of .siilti'tl wilnion, wliit'li is ^ivi'ii lo llir nutivt's I'iit of ('lim';;t', \'t'., wliiili wt* think lo ho II full nim'^in for this t'\|ii'n.si'. Till' iii'vt ilt'in of i'\|ii'iist' is salt, which is llic only iirticlf nsctl to cure ihc skins. VVi' will say that it lakes 10(1 tons of salt ■Jiiil ions will tin this, lail on ncconnl of the short linic in which seals aif taken, it iloes not alhiw iiineli tiiiif to n.si' it over, which ran Ih' ilone two or three times. This suit at |>ri'.sent is wurlli '.> tlollars per ton in San Francisco, in .small lots of I lo Id ions. We will say that it co.st lliiit lor 4U0 lon.s, inakiiif,' c.\pense of sail Tho next item is cost of trans|iortiilitiii from the islainl to Smi l''i'aiieiH(;ti. 'I'liu steamer " St. I'nnI " is ilesij,'ni'tl for this pnrpo.so. Slut niaile three trips ilnriiiK tilt' yuiir 18S8, clearing,' from San Frmiciseo for t lunalaskii— Isl trip, ch'aretl March L'L', IS.SS L'ntl trip, clearetl May 1:!, ISSS. ;!rtl trip, clearetl Sep'temher K!, \XHX. Ki\c\i time the manifest callcil fia' a.s.sortcil uoihIs and niei'chantli/c of various kinils, mill fully one-half of which was consi;,'netl to other parts of Alaska, so that prohiibly one-half of the expense of this steamer conlil Ik* cliar<;eil to other hiisiiiess, iinltipeiitliuit of the seal islaiuls. On twti of the.se trips slie cleared with thirty men, anil once with thirty-one. The steamer is prolmhly employeil ei^hl months in the year. The expensi! of this cannot lie accnnilcly csiimaletl, hnt liy estimatiiij; the expense "■' this vessel ... lor the year, wtinlil. we think, jiive liuii; nnirj;iii, so as to inelutle wear ami tear, interest on invest menl. insnnince, \'c. : llii.<i woiilil ,uive expense a hiir estimate until j^'oods are laiil in S.in Francisco. We will allow 1^ |H'r cent, insiirmicu to Lonihiii on, .say, l,"_'r)t),0(ll) tlollais, which woiiliI pitihahly he the extent that the.se skins could he insinvil fur, and which amonnts to When the skins arrive in San Fnincisco they are |iackcil in cask.s, especially iimde for this imrpose, which contain on an avera^ic 40 to 4."i skins, t.'allinjj 40 skin.s. This Wduhl make '.'.•"lOO casks. San Francisco niarket valne of same is 2 thd. liH e. each, making total exiien.se We will j-ive expense of ]iackinn in ciusks, tlraya^;e. mitl stoiiifjo in San Francisco The fit'ij;ht at present lime lenl-skins in iiickle, is 2 cent.' anil takinj.' this as a liiisis, they would make nearly 1,(100,000 Ihs., at 2 cents pur Ih. \Vc will say it cost one-half this iimount to lay and ilelivt'v Ihcin in London via steamer from New Vork, which, we think, is a liir^'u estimate This lays them in IamuIoii reaily for sale. The ]inrt;ha8er has a disuuunt of 2.J jiur cent, alliiwetl him, which is detluctctl from his pnrehii.se. This wonld make on 1,800,004 ilol. 2111)0 c., aiiuamt realized for the .skins (", M. Ijinipson and Co.'s chai),'es for commission on the sale of .salted ftir-.sual skins, which include iiisiiinnce, sloiiijje. itc, alter the yoiKls ait; tielivercd to llieni, is 4 per cent. This j,'ive» total expense of catchiiij,', curing, and inarkutino the 100,000 souls The estimate of. cost Discount, 2i (ler cent. ... (.'ummissions, i&c, C. M. I.Hm]ison and ijo. ... ' Lalxiur of the natives ... The fit'ij;lit at present lime hetwceii San Fianei.sco ami New York, in ciirloati lots, fur senl-skins in iiickle, is 2 cents ]ier II;. When packed they will averiijje nearly 10 lbs., 1>ol, f 2!Ml,2Hi; H' M.H.Ml iiO :io,(Miii fill ;!,(pou .ill.lKKI liO IS,?.")!! (Ill ,"i,;i7.'i 00 ,j,(lll(l nil .■12,000 on 10,(10(1 00 47,2:.2 :!:. 75,(;o:'. Ti; ■;5y,3(i7 w 20(3,28(1 82 47,2:.2 ;ij 7r.,(io;.! 76 :,1MM 00 470,092 1)3 These figures are practically coiTect, and can bo verified. This amounts to within 88,375 dollars which is estimated, but the cstiiniites are iimde lonj,' enough .so that any ConiiMiny obtaining the future lease of these islaiuls can contract in San F'l-ancisco for tliiu portion of thu expense at these figures, ami even less. Having now found the actual cost, or near the same, of the 100,000 seals, we will go further and 2^S |)(.l •J'.tH.'JHC, N'l ;io,tHio 0(1 ;i,iii)u uu liml wlmt tlm.si' hciiIm with miM for; we iiiii llirii clcti'iiiiiiio llic |iiiilil, or iinii il, I'm llic year I88fl mi tlm 1(111,0(10 wmk Tlitt .tkiiiM, iiricr iiniviii^ in lininlcni, wi'io mcpIiI on tin- ii(li NovcniinT, ISKK, liy (I, M. |juii|Mon mill < o, lit |illlilir hiiIk lit till' Loliiloll < 'iilllllli'l'ciill Siili' IIiioliiM, Miiii'iii^ Ijiih-, mm ju'r lliril- rll'.aloKlK', wliii'li I'lin III' olitiiiiicil IVoiii all i'X|Hirti'rs ol' I'iiin, iir I'roiii nil liir<^'r I'lir lioiiNrN in tjir |>riiiri|iiil ritiri of till' I'liitril Sliitc.H. Tlii-y wi'ii' Holil ill loin, tlm lururtt li'l of wliirli ronliiinril '.''.''J skiiiH, iinil tlio prill "< iiinK<'il li'oni l.'tdi. iicr xkin ilowii to 'J'.U. In iii'iIit to k' ' »t tlir rxiirl iinioiiiil ii'iili/ril liy tint will', ^^|' liiiM! iiHNorti'il tlir lots, iinil liml tliiit lliry Inoii^'lit iis folloW'i : ■l'.\ I 'ill i,',f»:i .1AII l.tiiiii 1,240 4':o A,^ III) Hll 2H0 411) Hll U'l U\\ fill 24'J 147 IH.'J 3,'imi ■i,riiin .■\2llll 177 li4U ;>6H 244 I Hll nkliiH liroiigltl l.ll'«. Mill I.IIUH .Il Ins hniiiitlil ! ',*«•. „ ;ifio ,, ,^ ll!l<. „ 2,l«l !• (• IIK(. „ ,11111 117.. ., 2..1II.1 • • ,1 IIIU. „ 'J4,)inii ,, ,, II.V „ .1,4'iil III*. „ IHO ,, , ll.'U. „ HIS ,, 1, tl2«. „ ■ilW ,, ■ 111. „ fttt (1 ,< I0»<. ., 170 »t ,, 107. „ 1..177 ,, ,. I05>. ,, 14,1, Ml ,, ,, III.V ,, 2,711 ,, ,, !IH». ,, ■i.7ll!l ,i ,, ltfi». .. !I.IH7 ,, 11 oru. ,. 2.'i7lt !M.. „ 2IIII ,1 ,, !i;i«. „ i.iiai ,, ,, n: „ ■ii:.\ (III. „ ■MI3 • 1 oil*. .. 172 ,, ,, H!l». „ 3K4 ,. ,1 HHt. ,, 2<l ,, ., K.'k. ., 81 ,, ,, 8.1». ., :.7 ,, ,, H2». ., hi ■ 1 1, HI.. „ Hll.. 7«». 7H.. 77.. 7f^r. JM. 74». 7.1.. 70.. fi9.. AH*. ti7t. All.. n.i.. I>4f. ttlf. An.. ft7«. .-■Ai. ."■.'Ml. .^4.. .'ill.. 44.. 4 '2.. 2D<. rln'h. NIIV, r.(l,(Hl(i no I8,7,")ii (III iniulti TliiH ciicli, ,"),;;7."i ("1 I'O ... •J.dOII (Id 1 lots. 1 lbs., • . • ;!j,(i(Mi III! Jll Vlil 111,1111(1 Mlt !.\ liei- u on ... 47,2.-c' :(.' u'-sunl yni, M 75,(;(i;\ 7r. ... .^.59,307 0:t 2UiJ,2«i; 8'2 47,2:-:^ :W 7.-.,(iOl! 7() ... f)l,8;-|() 00 470,992 93 within 88,375 dollars I obtnininj,' the future i ut these tigui'cs, ami e will go further and Now, in Hiiniliiiii^ up lln' ililfi'ii'iit lot>, I liml llnit instcinl of lliiri' Ix.'iii^ only |lMi,Oilli .skins, ii.s f('|iit'siiiitril lit till' ln';;inniii;; of l.iiiii|'son niiil Co.'s riilii|iij,'iii(, coiiHislin;; of '.17,871 Aliiskii fiir-si'iil skins, siillril, mill 2,lli',i .Vliiskn ^I'lil skins, iIii'ssimI iiiiIiiimI, tlirni whs |IHl,M|ri skins, wliirli iriili/ril oS|l,!l| I/. :k, which, wlii'li riMlnrt'ij to I'niti'il Stiitrs' nioii(!> on tin' Imsis of I ilol. H-i^ i:. to llir |ionnil utt'rliiif,', iiinoiints to 1,StlO,()'.l4 ilol. ll'.lli'.t r., lliiis l)iiii;,'iii;r on all avi'iiij;!! 18 ilol. Mil-?'.' c. |ii'r skin. \\r fojiiil ilmt Mirst' NkiiiH lirniiglil UitlllctiliK tlic iOUl mat ol iiimi- . , l.oHm A nrt |iroflt of Dill. r. I ,Hilll,ll!l4 2'Jfi7 .■i,VJ,3A7 'J.I l,;i3(l,72C 3A'fi7 fiiv till' yuiir 1888. Kijiiiriii;,' this us fji'iii'iiil ini'irliiints ilo, il nmki's ni'iiily n in't inotit of \>'M jht iciil. im tin: niiiital invcsli'd. Tiilk iilioiil your sngiir trust, yiis stork, WntiT ( 'oiniianii^s, niilio.nls, iVr., Ilii.s liiys Ihi'iii nil in tin' simile in tin.' inattci of ))rolit.s. Tlirsc lij;tiii's niv. not nii'ii' ^iirss work, Init the fiii'ts, mill any one hy followin,!,' the ilireitions as speeitieil ran liml voiiclu'l.s for all these estiliintes, Having; now shown the viiliie of this ]irivilei,'e in a fair ami laisiness nimiiicr, we ask, is it ri^^lit iiiul jlist to the Imsiness men, nierehmits, I'lipitalistM, ami |)ersons of the I'liiteil States who hav >ney til invest, ami nre more than willing to invest wlieri' there is a reasonalile elimiee for returns, uu.i, this inivileije shoiilil he placeil at tin.' iliseretioli of one man lo ileeiile who is the inoper person to have this ]iiivih'j;e I Are we not vii,'lit in this elaiiii that if it is plaeeil like any other (liiveinineiit loiitnut that CilKI.IHKI to 800,0(10 dollars jim' year will he otfereil for this privile^je, ami hy ]iarties wlio will i,'ive as giHi.1 homls as can he hail for the fnltilnieiit of their contrait ! Amoiii; the various niethoils for hamlliiij; of the fur-seals, one is that the (iovernuieiit shall take cluiri;e of this, ami eoinliiet this Inisine.ss .so- as to derive all the henufit therefrom, which is not a had one. Some would say tin! (iovernnient eimld not do this. It seems ])lm'n and ea.sy. [,et the fJoveni- mcnt lake eliarj^e of this Ite.servatioii. The aitieles noeessaiy to eondnct the Imsiness (tonld he lioii;;ht the same as it now is, with onlinarv siip]ilies, hy hids. A coin)ielent foreman can he ohtaiued lUiinii^ its olhcels to sii]iei'intend the killilif; and eiiving of the seal, as it requires no ureal skill to ito this. The (lOvernnient steiiiner " Hear" could he u.sed to traiisiiort sup|ilies on its trip to the Aretie in llic spring and hriiio hai'k to San Fi'anci.seo the seal-skins on their ri'tnrn trij) in the fall, thereby causing but little e.xpeii.se, as on both trips to and from the Arclii; they )mss williiii r>U miles of these islands. The skins could he jiacked and shipped under the ](rovisiim of the llovenimenl otlicial.s to CM. Ijtmpsou and Co. for sale, and returns made direct to the Trensui-er of the I'nited States. This seems to he the liest and most practical way to dispose of this franchise, thereby deriving all the benefits there may be in it U) the Government. Tl:e privilege of nondncting a general store on the islands could be sold the same as with other Reservations, ns 113 families would undoubtedly support one good general merchandize store. Another way, which we think would be much lietter for the liest interest of the people of the Pacific coast, would bo a.s follows. Let the tJoverninent take charge of this Reservation, and, in.stead of killing 100,000, tike 50,000 seals; aud iu doing this, let the selection be luoro thorough, so that the 50,000 skiua shall ]>e strictly It ill 'ill i'i I 286 chnici' NkiiiH, tliul wimiM iivuni^c tlin lii^jlicNt )H)Milili' )iric(>. Tlini iiIhiihIdii tliii |in>Ni>iit iHilicy „t rluiiniiiK till! MfliriiiK'N Sru um an iiilitiiil hcii, wliich cntilint \m' iiiiultt to nIiiiiiI in tli« (MhI. Iiostiii i i||, killing iif Ni'iil wiiliin tlii' It-niilc i>i' (i-niiitt limit, uliiitcviT in licciiltMl tn Ih^ the limit of wjnit ii niilinn ( mi holil iiutlicii'iiy over (lie liinh hoiim, iinil in lliii* wiiy it would promote tlic inihixtry of priviitu Hfiiljnm,, n miU'li iini;*'!' I'xttMit tliiin it now in. A jHTsiin nut knowing; tiic vuhic ol'tiiis inilunti'v woiilil itsk \vli('i'(Mn it wmilil lie In tlir inlciisi ,,f flic I'licilic iiiiwt to |iriiniiit(' the nciilin^' imluNtry liy privjitf iniliviiliiiilN. Tlu^ answer in, llirtrlniiitli, of till' money ilcrivi'tl I'mm the catch of tlii' privatti Ncalcr ix put ri;{lit into circulntion in lliis niioimr, in fad, i|uil<' a lar^'c |it'ri'i-nta;;(* in put into cinnilation licfori^ llin vchhcI Iciivi's port. In order to nmlii. tliiN more plain, ue will ;;ive the detail of llie privale-Kcaler liUHinesH. In the lirnl place, a vessel ||,t< to he secured, either hy churterini; or pnrcliaMn),'. The vessel!) employed in this biisiness are iinmilt Knmll schcHiners ran^'in^' from 40 to 110 Iowa hnrden, 70 tons liein^ a fairaverage for si/.e. We will h,iv un oriler is ^'iven to our ship-vards for a vexBul for sealing' : For a new vessel of this description of "0 tons u fair price in San I'Vaneisco is ... 7,0(HI im This IS desi^'iied to curry six otter- or sealiii}i-l)oat.s, and it new of Iwunty-om* men. As soon IIS the ves,sel is recei\ed from the ship-yard, she has to Ih' fiiiiiisheil with her iiiicliors, eliains, spare ro|H's, an extra suit of .sails, dishes, cooking utensils, and other articles too niiiiieroiis to mention, of which ... ,., ... ... ... is a low I'slimate. The next item is the six hiiiiliii;;-lHiiiti4, with un averuKe of 100 dollai's each A I'oiiiplete new oiittit of ^'iiiis, rilles, and aniniiinitiuii, riui^iii){ from (iOO to '.Kill dollars, according to the ideas of the muster or owner, wliicli wu will call Salt for curing the skins Then cumes the item of pro\isioiis, coal, \'c., for ii cruize of ci);hl months for twenty-one men, would iivera;;e ... ... ... ... ,., The slop chest, which consists of clothing', liliinkets, iioots and shoes, toluieco and medicines siiilalile for a crui/e, and which the law forces all muMtei'H to tuke, is estiimUed The \e.ssel is now ready for .sea except the crew. These as n rule i;o on a lay, hut nil lieiii^ ]ioor men, they ,i{eii' .illy have un lulvance paid to them, riin;,'iii;{ from ;tO lo lOil dollars, anil with a crew of twenty-one men a master may ho coiiHiilored lucky if he gets otf with less than udvaiicu money for his crew. Totid e.v|)ense to stnrt with .•,.MIII III) liiiii nil T.'iii no Kin (III nun im •l.'iM nil 1,2011 nil 13,6110 (HI This is as low an estimate us II ves.sel carrying; six Uiats cun lie hiiilt and furnished for licr liril trip, with a reasoiiiilily hiir oiitlit siiitalile to make a success of llu! liit^incss. This is near the actii.il expense which any one would W al to eni;a;,'e in this Imsine.s.s. Of course, lliis ainount wmild iiiinii- diatcly jjn into circulalion. .Vt the |iresenl time there are ahoiil lifteeii American ves.sels on the I'acilii coa.st eii^:a;,'ed in this laisiiicss. Now could this Imsiness lie hroii^'ht up to II "i vessels, it would iei|uin' 100 new vessels and oullits, which would at once put into circulation I,;l."i0,ll00 dollars at the Imwisi calculation |>ossilile, and would j;ive employment to iMOO iieii. We will now e-stimat*! the iivcnyc catch of the |>rivate .sealer at 10,000 dollars each. This, one Heiwon with another, is a fair uvciii^i' catch, and would ivali/e 1,000,000 dollars for the 100 vu.s.suls The crew, ill the end of the snwuii. come in to lie |iaid oil', and, as u rule, receive one-half of the catch, which aniounb) to .'lOO.iiOn dollars. This is |iut immediately into cii'culalion, leuviu;{ the halance in the owner's hands to luilaiiic lii> outlay on the trip whatever net protit there may lA', in the husine.s.s. We will say that it is di\iilt.Hi lietween the 100 owneiif. Now lhe.se 100 owners support 100 families, us a ride, and spend much iiinri' tliun though it was made and handled hy four or live men in it stuck (.'ompany. This cxplaiih wherein it is to the liest advantage for the I'licilic coiwt to have this liusine.ss open to any one wiin wi.shed to invest in the same. It is (ilain to he seen if this e.xtra auumnt uf Imsiness coiiKl U tlistriliiited on the I'aeitic coast between San Francisco, Portland, Tort Towiwend, Seattle, and nllitr I .ihijipiii}; ]ioiiits, it would ]iroiuote all tnule und business, with jicrliaps the e.xce|ition of the liack-iliivcr and undertaker. The Government at tiie same lime would derive a liirye revenue on the sale of liio 50,000 .skins, enoufjh to pay a dividend on the jiurcha.se of Alaska hir^er than it ever has done, auil have a niar};in to protect the seals on their breedinj; f^rounds, which is conceded by all should b<j ilijiii;. We undei-stiind the objection nntde to the private sealers is iniide by tlio.so who do not unduistaiul liuw the hunting of .soul is done. The rea.son for the objection is, that the private seuler will dcntruyl all the senls and break u]i the seal rookeries. We lusk : Has there ever been a seal rookery broken iiiif and dostitiyed by hunters with tire-arms when used at sea from 10 to 20 miles away from the rookcrii's.j and in most instances 50 miles away from the rookeries i We answer, Xo; it never has been iliuic. and never can hv. done. In all coses where iiKikeries have been broken up it luus been done by lulllt('^| directly on the beach wliei'e the seal land, und by hunting and killing thorn iiidi.suriminately, .so tiiatl they could not land and have their yoinig, and cai-e for the same. The killing of seal from 1(1 to 2iil miles away fitim the rookeries is unite another thing. The seal there is not at the iiierey of tluj hunter, as it liiis plenty of sea room, and is able to take care of itself, and is no easy game to ciipluiv,! even by the most skilful hunter. This will lio understood when it is considered that 2,500 seals is aii| exceptionally goixl catch for a vessel carrying twenty-one men, who are generally out seven or cig months getting this numy. This shows that the seal, when away from liuril and at sea, is a banl aiiiiniil to capture, and that they can never lie exterminated by hunting at sea as now done, any iiion than the ducks and geese otn Ije all killed, while uu their way to and from bi'euding grounds iu tbJ Ai-ctic. V ~:m no Kill Mil ',111(1 nil •l.MI im 1 ,200 On 2b7 W(> ofton «u» n(>|MiH.s iilioui tliti Moiil-liiiiitdrn with iviimrk* of the way limy cuiituri' Hctiln, clHiminu ihnt iiiiiny w«ru hIidI iiihI woumlcd, mid cnurliud in tiiu moNt oiidciiiiiiu iiiiiiiiifr tliiil tli<> |Miiir Nnds wiTi' '<laiiK)iti'ii'd liy till' iiiiiilt'i'M '>itli Nliiit-^iiii mid i'illi>, hci iih to ciiiry llii^ iiiiin'cmiiiii tli.it it wiih tlin iiiiHt I'l'iu'l liiiHitit H nil the |iiii'l of priviid' mchIitn, mid ii liimiiicHH tliiil itlioiilil not liv nllowi'd, it iK'ii:^ crtii'l ill til*' <'xtn'iii)< mid iiiiiii I'l'XNiiry. We will now liini tlin ti.lili'M, mid imk wiis llini' ever ii nioixi iTiicj mid Imilid iin'tliod invmit'd for killing diiiiil) miiniiilM tlimi i." now prariiNtMl in killing ni'iiU on tlin iNlmiilM of St. (!i'or){<> mid Si, I'mil, liiui^^iiic liow tliiw Iiinlilv ill filijji'iil miiiniilH iirc uriidiiullv forced mid ilrivcn iiwiiy fioiii tlir miii, their iiiitive I'leiiit'iil, driven iiilmid is fur hm d 'eiiied |>iiii'tii'iil. The Nliiii^liler then (oniiiieni-eM, liiiii){inn ii ffUtji of men with eliilis miii liliidp'oiiH kiioekini^' cuil their liriiiiiM ri^ht mid left, mid if III" Neiil in not hit ri}:hl III the lii'Nl Mow it U follnwed ii|i mid Hliiiif^hteii'd, its liriiiiiM iH'in^' kniH'ked ciiil I. ii cliili. \Vlio niti iiiiii^^'iiie II more eriiel method thiiii IImh for killiii;{ diimli iiiiiiiiiiN f t'ertmnlv the |iriviite iii'iiIi'i'h method i.s the moNt hiimmie of the two, i\piiii, it is eliiimed Ihiit muiiy hcuIn me .sliut that "ink mill me loMt. riidoiililedly there ;ire some lott in ihiN way. hut the |iei'i'eiitii^'e \h \in,\\\, |irohiilily one ill tliirly or forty, not more tlimi this. It ix hImo claimed thnl ten are Hlmt and woiindcil that die to one lliiil \* secured. This is al.so mi error. Many seals are shot at that are not hit at all, Init when ii seal is wiiiiiiiled, sii that in the end il will die, it is most always secured hy the hunter who may have to niiiHii lit II several times in order to ^'cl it, as the seal in the water cNposes only its lieiiil, and when fiifjiilciied e\|ioseH only a small iiortioii of that, so that, to^'ether with the constmil diviii;^ of the Mial, ihc iiiiition of the hoal, \'c., makes it very hard to hit. This is where it is chiinied that ten are shot mill wounded to one that ix siM'iiitid, hut it is nearer the truth that one is lost to ten that are secured, I'm' the reason that when it seal is wounded il caiiiint leiiiaiii under water any length of time, and tlii'li't'iire the hiinler call eiLsilv fidlow it up and secure it. We will now look at the Chart of the Itehrin^'s Sea and see on what uroumU our (loveniniunt oliiiiiis this. Villi will Hot ice a loii){ chain ol islands, inlled the Aleutian Islands, exti'iidiii^' in the I'liriii of a circle to the westward, dividing; the I'acitic Ocean from the Itehriiin's Sen, Tlie.se islands aru uiiileiihteilly of Volcanic fornmtion, and v\ Idle they extend some !,:.'( K) miles to the westwiird, they do iKit inclose the llehrili^'s Sea. The Island of Atton is our extreme western jios.session. The dislmice fruiu the Island of Alton to('o|iper Island is l7o niile.s, and to the nuurest point of the Kuniclialkii i(«ust or Siherimi side, ;!70 miles. \ow if our (ioveriimeiit can claim and control a .sen with a pa.s.sa}{e ;'i7ll miles iicross, we want to know how she is j,'oin); to do it, and on what j^rounds. Certainly not ihnt it is an inclosed sea. Mon- t'Sperially, when you ajjnin look at the Chart, you see that the Island "f Alton is at the extremo end of the chain of islands, and as you follow this I'liain i<f islands hack to till' eastward as far as rniiiiak Pass, that hotweeii these islands are wide passii;,'(^s. .lowiiij; ve.s.sels of the liii|;est dimensioiiH to pa.ss in mid out of the ilehrin;{'s Sea at will, a distance ol Hume 1,2110 miles to the Silxjriau eoiwt, in ii direct wcHtwiml line. Hy earefuUy |icru8ing this ('hurt it must convince thu 1 <c('|ilical that our Govuriimunt lia.s no claim to the llehriii^''s Sua as un inclosed sea, Wo now come to tlw <|ue.stioii of the jurisdiction of thu Boliring'.s Sun us taken hy our (Joverii- 1 iiieiit, cmiHfid hy the .seal [iiestion. For this reason thu Chart of the Xortli I'ai^ilic Ocuiin mid tho IViiiiiiti's Sen is sunt to ynu so that it may .show just how hroad the claim our (iovernmeiit has taken liutliis matter. Vou will notice on the Chart of the ISehrinn's Sea the line culled the United Status' imaginary Iwundary-line, called this for lack of no hetter name. This line has liueii laid out or iumj^'iiied to exist in aiio]ien.sua 1,2UU miles iicro.ss in its widest part, something never heforu claimed hy any other I'ower in thu histoi-y of thu world. The iiiiiire.ssion has gone out that the ItehrinK's Sea is an iiK'liised watiu', and under the full control of the TTiiiteii States and Uussia. Just how or w here this claim Ins first ohtailied no one .seems to know. It sprang' into existence like a luiishrooni, and apparently I Willi ahimt the same i-trenftth and .stnndiiij,'. Our (Iovernmeiit couhl, with the .same consistency, all of aumlilen claim the eoiititil of the Oiilf of Mexico. It is considered i)y nil maritime laws that a nation iiiii only control a certuiii distance of the sua from her shores. This hius Imjcii the estnhlished custom I VII iiiaritime law for an indetinitu time, niid our (jovurninunt insists that our Americmi tisliermen sluill have all rij^lit outside of the 3-inile limit fitim hind in the controversy hutwueii the Cnnadimi and lAuiericnn tishermun, and would not consider the 10-mile.s headland ]ioiiit an aaked liy the Canadians, Wt when they come on the Pacific in the llehrin>,''s Sen they go directly hack on what they claim on Itlie pft.sturii side, and sny. We own all this sea, and if you are found in it your vessels are suli.ject to [it'i/ni'c and yourself fined, iiinki..,., lio aUowanee whntever for what jKirtion you niny he in. whether I mile or lOl) miles from land. Our Oovurnmeiil then going diruutly hack on what it claims from thu aiiailiau anthorilies on the other side, we ask, can this claim he held when it conies to a fiiuil issue !' I.'vi fur it has lieeii done hy force, hut might 's not nlways right, and can any one claim hut what our iliivcniment will have yet t<i ]iiiy for the dnmages to the Ciiiiiulians and her own citizeiiB for the losses IllifV have sustained hy the seizure of their vessels und forfeiture of same hy our (Jo^erninent in its |ai(i among the sealuis in the year 1887 in the Behring's Sea. By what other rights has the United States to the Behring's Sea ? It is cluinied that Kussiii ceded luid sold to the Unit«d States the full and absolute right and control of all the waters of the Behring's ISwi. The (luestiou is, did liussia do this? J)id she sell this open sen, tho puhlie highway of the kittlers, for an indefinite length of time in tlie [last, to the whaling grounds in the Arctic — the highway f England via the Yukun Uiver to her possessions in the far north. She did not do it. She sold her ights of the shoi'e-linu only, of which undouhtedly si i had a right to do. Russia, despots and tyrants sthey have proved themselves to lie in all their deai ;8 with nations and private individuals, never sand does not to this day claim or exercise jurisdic m of the Behring's Sea, except the shore-line. |iinericnn, English, and vessels of all nations are alio- ..d to hunt, fish, and trade without molestation itliu watei-s of Behring's Sea, adjacent to Russian possessions, providing they respect the shoitj-linc. p* Russian Consul at ^'okahanla has in the past, and undoubtedly does at the present, issue orders to ^rties fitting out for hunting in the Behring's Sea, warning them not to intrude on the shore-line, Wliiu 80 many miles froro shore, thus practically admitting that she ha- lo claim to this open high ■wM I ti r I ■iM 288 sua. r» not tins fiK^t iilnnc siill'u'iiMil I'viduiirn tliiit hIic never sold to tlie United Stiites wlml in imw clainiud .slm sold I She sold wliiit she owned, iind timl wii.s llie nlini(!-Iii1l> only. It .seuniH that this inin^'iniiry lionndiiry-line i\n .set down on the (^'llmt ori^innled in iniii^'inii|i:iij iiineli the mint' iim nmny stories, nnd iil'ter lieinj; lold iiwhile is ueeepted as a fiu't and helieveil \', |ii< true, even liy th(^ person who lirsl lohl the story. I!nt when ii thorouj^di investi^ution is nuule, it in found that they will not hold wiiter, and are matters of liction only. Having,' now vevii'wed this iinestion, we nsk our (Mistern (Jonon'.ssnien and Senators and I'laslcin newspapers to eNaniini' tlw nieiits of tliis ease, so that when this important measure comes up tiii'v will know llu^ lull value of the same, anil will act in the way that will lie tor the hesl interest oj' ilii> most peoph> of the United States. When .Alaska was purchased, it was undouliledly dusif,'ued lu I*. for the lienelit of the mas.si's, and prolialiiy not to (aeati* a nnaiopoly for the lienefit of a few men lailv, thereliy retarding' the growth .iiid developnuuit of this veiy valualile Territory. We also lhiid< tln' laws should he so amended that a person could aci|uire a title to property, and so ctiaii;,'ed that a white man could have the privile^je of kiliin;,' a mink or an otti'r tor its skin wilhiait lir.st marryin;,' a sipinw; US the law now reads, no white man is allowed to kill any fur-liearin]L; animal unless he marries ,i .sipiaw, 'I'liis is noir commoidy understood, liut is a fai't, and is a ipu'cr state of alfairs, and one iImi wiadd not lie relished liv parents liaviui; sous tliat wiaild like to ^'o to Alaska, nuire especially if llicy .sIkhiM have seen the i;r|i<irts of Miss Kale Field oii the women of .\laska. It should not be l'orj,'c)tten that this is the lirst instance in the hisl(M'y of the (iovernmont of tln' United Stales in which it has ever pursued a |i,)licy tendini,' to create a mouo|ioly. All its laws relating; to other portions of the p\dilie domain liavi^ liven franuul with a view to invite eonipetitioiiaiiil jin'Vent monojioly. S'.ieh is the spirit which has actuated and f,'overned the jire-emption, homcsliMii, niiucral, and other laws relatiin; to the ]iid)lic property. The theory has been that such ))nlilie iiropertv has been vi'sted in the (iovernmeid, in trust, as it were, for all its citizens. The proposed le^;islatiiiii with respect to the .Vlaska seal tislieries will be the tirst exception to this uuiver.sal policy. Imleeil there is no species of the piddie property which has been more ]iecidiarly rei^arded as the cenuaim lieritauie of all than the tislieries. Thus our (ioveriiment has Ik'cii for years jiast expendiiif; the mast elaborate ellorts. in lime and money, to biiiii; about such an adjustment of the Kisheries ipicsiiuu on the Xorlli Atlantic coast as will ojien them to all American citizens. It is at least sinjjnlar that, the moment we cross the continent, this established public ])oliey should entirely ohanKe, and llic waters of the I'acilie be erected into a monopoly for the benelit of a simple (,'orporatioii. Ill conclusion, we cannot ladp but review thi^ fact that it would be vastly to the best interest nf the Pacitic coast, and to the whole of the jieople of the United States, that the (loveniment should taki- eliarne vif the seal islands, restrict the killini; to ,'iO,OIIO seals |ier year, abamlon the ]ire.sent bad peli(jy of the jurisdiction of the whole of Itelniiin's ,Sua, and o]ien the Territory to its full develo]iment. Our Ha.steni friends mi;;lil ask us how it would beiietit them. In the tirst place, it would open a protitable field for the employment of your idle capital. In the second place, lialf of the articles necessary to develop this Terrritory would be drawn fraiu your mannfaetnreis, such as hardware, canvas for sails, ship chandlery, j^uns, clothing of all de.seriptiaii, such n.s waterproof and oil elotliinjj, ami, in fact, all bmnobos of trade would derive some heiictit from it. In the third ]il,iee, it would open a litdd for the protitable employmeiit of hundreds of your yoim;; men who are always on the watch for new liclds to ent»'r, so as to aeiiuire wealth and u competuuey. We ask your careful attention of the facts set before you, and trust our efforts nmy not be in vain. ('o]iies of this can be obtained by addvessini; 0. 1). I,add, ,"i'.".) and ."i;l|, Kearny Street, San Trail- risco, California. SiiliiiDii mid Siiil. nil (■ii.«e was i ciiiitriils of til Mill nwf wlievi the llcliriui^'s (if criticism fi fully iiiidersli "Ii'icliard li'iis iiiireiil'y repo; ;tt (liiiialaska t IIHMC were jblll t.lkeii ill the v( llival ill jus! ire willilioJdiiiL; of "Ii'icliard liiisl Viiliiiia claim I'll'sjilc (he ,'!.]! sliiVcil olllside. mil' can In' misi U'e iiiiw CI mink, iiiirlin, s: llr wafers then " Aiiv pcr.si lliiin l.linil dolli \V(^ ask, wi iiijiisliee that tli 11.1 1'liiiipared wit its market value iiii'iit for six nio :i|)[ily to a jirosjv ami are common The (pie.stio k'uriii;- animals h\Y like this ha mines, and this i .\liiska sliould 111 tlwt white men .•■ iiii'aiis or other, \ I "lit. illiil the del I |«rlics who woiil iiiil make a siicci I »iicii a native se; lirliinlly eoiiside "111 of Alaska, iH'nil their furs w if piissilile. h N I ilii' ilevelopmciii '■'"iilry for the In ■■'i"I'iiiiie.s. An liist live in the inMiiirecs of Aliis Till' /»'(i(')',v/oH.f of the Law to hf atrictly ruforci'il. IN referriii},' to the order, as i-eported, of the l.'ith March,* ejiiird to the salmon tl.sheries. tlii.^ mention of dams would b(> supposed to apply to the present method of taking' aiilmon, called tish-traps. This oilier, if carried into ellect, will undoubiodly work great liardshi))s to the salmon eauneries nnw onipiged in this busiii^w in Alaska. Section H reads that tlie publication of notice of .seizure and eoiitiscation of vessels shall In' published one month in the ])apei's at each I'liited States' )iort of entry on the I'aeilic coast. Willi regard to this publication, it is earnestly ho]ied that it shall lie plain, and clearly deliiio just what tlu' Oovernmeut claims as its domain, whether it claims the shore-line or the whole Hehrinji's Sea. hi I 1887 similar notices were jmlilished in San Francisco, but did not iletine what the Goverimii'iit | claimed. In this year the (iovernment vessel "liichard Hush," commanded by Captain ohi^pard, seizwl ten or twelve American and Fiijilish sehnimers enj;a;;ed in fur-seal hunting' in the 15ehrin}j;'s Sea, takiiii,'! them wherever found, about l."i miles from land beiiiL; the nearest that any was found anil seized. One I Knglish ve.ssel was !I8 miles from laud when seized, nnd others from 211 to 70 ndles from land, and inj • Wnittington, yfarch 15. — In roinpany with D. tlrown Goodc, of tlif I'liiU'il Slftti'S* Fintieries Commifsion, Senator Stor)iIirid|t7, 1 Chairmnn of the roi.mittei' on Fislieries. to-ilny niUeil ii|ion .'^e^•n'tI^^y \Vilnlom willl reference to the Aet reeentty pn»»'(l lor lli.f protertien of the !*iilnion tiaheries in iVlaskn. Tin- Aet mit1<e<> it nnUwful to en'Ct or maintain any nbfltruction tn ttie rivers of .^lasktl with ttie purpose or rewult of impetlin)^ or prevenlill^ ilie uneeiit of i<altiiun to tlieir B)mwninK Kniunilii, null attixfs a miiiinmiii peimltf I of "J'tO (lolUf!) n liny for violation itiereof. L.i>t yeiO-, it is >aiil, eerlnili partiea, by tlie aiil of tliims, captured millions of tlsh, ami liieyl »r»' rp(>orie<l to be nml(ini[ reaily 'or another ennipaign this yer.r. The mutter has been ref,»rred to th« Law Offii-cra of the Trea turj I Oepartnient, who will nt onef prepare the le'ce^^arv oriiers for carrying into effect the provisions of thn Ant. The loflt seetion of thfl Act, Senator Storkbriilge says, will he carried ont by the President in due time. Its adoption wot a matter of aerioiu concern tol Congress, and it> phraseology was clianged by tlw Senate an Foreign ReUtioni, and it waa enacted into law aa foUowi, WfTll icfe ISccTCturv of Stir I; 89 iKi ciiso wns mi.v viv-hcI williiii IIil' .'l-iiiil(' liiiiil, wliidi i.-i rhi)1iihi'iI to lnt wliiit ii Tmtii)ii IioMm niiil (•(iiitiiils III' till' liiL'li ■icii^. <':iiit!iiii Slir'|iiiiil in line insliiiiri- win'ti iciiiiiii-triilcil witli siiid : " \Vn do lint III iv «lii"i' Villi ai'i', wlii'llii'i' 1 mill' 111' "inil iiiilcM (Vimi liiinl, we nii' u'niii'i tn liiki' vmi iiiiywln'ri' in .1 11 I. ..:....'. k;.'... •' 'I'l.;., 1.;.,l. I I...I i: il ..!• ! i .. ' i ,i i iiir ( liivi'iiiiiii'iil, caii'ii'il a ;4i'i'iil (inil )ivor lili;; nil llp' liisil |iiililin nii'ii, iinii till' |>iiiilir si'iilinii'i:!, wlirii'vcr llii: niHi! wiut illc^'MJ mill niiiM iiiil III', siislaiiii'il. In l<SK8 tJio Mill the I'i'liriii;,'''* Sra." Tlii-; hijiJi-liaiiiln (if crilii'iniii lii'iii iiiir iii'«siia|irrs iini fully iiiiiii'i'sloiiil. was tiail (lii'-ic sci/iin-i wen "IJiclianl li'iish" li'tl San I'Vanrisin iIh' .'liil .Inly Inr iln riiii/i' in llii' lirlirinj,''M Si-a, ami i(. was iiirrcMl'y ir|inrti'(l tliat llm Cajitaiii's in^lnicliuns wi'It llii' siinii' aw in 1XH7. I'|ii)ii llii' vc-si'l's aniviii ;il(liliialaHka llli^^ jiiilii'V was cliaiiLiril. mill nn vcs-ji'Im were seized in IHSS. llie siipjinsiliuii Keiie; tiial. lldlli' well' liimiil Nvilllin tlie .'!-lllile linill. I'lV lllis ai'limi liie ( Inveiniiieiil lereded rinni llie e|'(ii|||d>j l.ilii'M in till' year IMS7, tlieieliy |ii-ai'(iially ailliiitli:i;; that llie seizures nl' |S,'-t7 were wruin; and illegal. llri'iil injiisliee was dune tn tlie iiwiiers of ,\jiieriean Vessels , iiya^ceii 'M lliis lnisiiiess in IHKS liy till* williliiildiii'j 111' wliair the uriier was tn lie with leeaid (n the liehriiiu'.-' Sea iiiitii the iiirival of the "li'icliani liiish " ill Oniialaska, thereliy kei'|iin;,' imt, the Aineiiean vessels. 'I'he Kii^lish niasleiH lit Viiliiria I laiiii that they Imil advices rrmn their (invernineiil al Ollawa, thai im seizure wnnld lie niiidir diiNiile (he ;5-mile liinil. 'I'lie n^iill was thai the l'',iii,dish vessels went in. while the Aiueriian vessoln sieved niilsiile. Menee this |iiililiealiiili '^hmilil liy all ineaiis he eN)ilieil mi this piiiiit in nrder thai no mil' run lie misled as lliey were hi'^t year. We linw eiinie In llial pall iif llie li'i'vi.sed Statutes I'sei'liuii lll.'ili)* where the killing; nl' liny otter, mink, niiilin, salile, nr I'lir-seal, nr ntlier rtii-heaiin;,' iininial wilhiii the limits nl' Alaska 'reirilnry, or in llii' waters therent', il I'eads:-- " Any |ier.snii j;iiilly llierenl' shall, Inr eaeh nd'eiiee, he lined iint less ilani L'IKI dnllars nor mure limn 1,(100 dnllars, or iniprisnned nut ninre than six mniilhs, nr hnlh, and all iiiillils ec.ntisiuled." We ask, was there ever in tiie whnle hislory of the world, a Law jiassed that shnweil (|iiite the iiijuslici! thai this does :' (!aii ymi lind its jiarallel f AVe diailil it when yon look lit the iietiial oll'dnoff us I'liiiipareil uith the value of the jiroperly taken. '•"■■" ••■'■' •■■' '' ■■ ^'"' '■" ■•■'■ its laarkel, value I leiiii; less than 1 ilol lar. ]'"or instaiiee, a miner on the A'liknii kills :i mink, e is siihjecl to a line of jio.ssihly 1,000 dollars and iinpri.son- Tlu^ sanii^ f-aw would ini'iit fur six months, with the eniilisialion of his hoals, bhinke(s, prnvi.sions, \t. llu^ sanii^ l-aw would ;i|)[ily to a ])ros|wcl()r .should he kill a heaver nr a hear and use it fur food; liotlian; fur-hearing animiil.M, ami are eoiiimon in Alaska. The question eonie.s n]i — lor what reason has sucli a J,aw been jia.ssed f Is il to ]irolecl llie I'nr- lieiiriii!,' aniiiial.s of Alaska ?"f On the face of it, il would .seem .so, hut really siieli is not tlii,' eii.se. A I,n\v like this has a ((Miileney (o diseoiiraLie all iiarties from fjoiii^' to Al.inka to trap, luiiil, prospeitl for mines, ninl this is what is wanleil liy those who control the Irade of Alaska. It is not desirahle thai .\l;iska should heeome settliMl, and its resources fully developed. It is mnre desirahle to their interests lli.it white men should he kept away, and Inr this reasnii a Law like this is ]iushi'd thrnu^di hy .snme iiKniis or other, which mi the face nl' il Innks siiieere, hut when iiiiderstnnd slinws plainly llii^ injusliex^ III' it. and the delriment (o the hesl interests of Alaska, injusliee to all residents of Alaska, and to all I'lirlii's wlin would like to •,"> there. Tt is an understood fait that no vessel can j^'n (o Alaska for trade iiiiil make a siieeess ; il is im]iossilile tn lniy furs from the natives to any extent. AVhy is lliisi' .Simjdy, wlii'ii a native sells his furs to an milside trader, he is cut off from trading; al the various jiorls, and is 'I'he louLter lliat white men are kepi White hunters and traders liunl and. \i;liially eonsidered an nuteast, lieiiee ihey ila»>. not do il. I'll! iif Alaska, so much the lon;;er this trade is coiilrolled Mini their furs where thi'V choosi , hence il is desirahle that all such persons should he ki^il out nssilile. It .seems tlii l ihesi Laws are sn frameil in nrder to (^xilnde eom[ielilimi and n^lard ileveloiimeiit of Alaska instead "!' dev(diipiii^; its resources as they slimild he, and o)ien this va.sl 111 v.iindy for the henelil of the whole pi nple and not for the exclusive use of a few rich and jinwerfiil ICiiiiiiianics. An earnest apiieal is meii.' Iliat these f.iiws shall he amended sn that a while man can at in the cnuntry withnul heiiiL; a erimiiial. .Sini]ile justice asks this, as Inist live I r.'^iiiirces nf .\laska are ils furs, lisheries, and mines. the only practical lisheries, tlu> I'd lish-tmii^. nneries now els .shall 111' coast. Willi lust wlial till' life's Sea. hi 1 Ooveruuii'iit :>;pard, seizeil s Sea, takiii'^l seized. One land, anil in| Ltor Storliliriilp. ly pniiBt'tl for lli- T rivers of Alwki luiiiiniuiii |iiii"il'!. I of ftsh, and ihej • of tlie Tr." lur; igt leiitinii of ihfl trioos uonct'tn <o| No. -106. Coloiiid! OJ/icr lo hoiciijii Offlcr. — [Ri'cpircd Awjust 10.) .■>■ iMf. Dounimj Sir d, August 9, 188!). \\ FTII reference to the letter from tliis D-^pavtiiicnt: of ye.'^lerday I ;Mn din^cted by the ISaTetury of State for the Colonies to tiansniit to you, lor comrnunieation to tlie M.iiquis • ^^fctiiin :\. Tliiit, Sirtiiiii I'.'.'iC ui tlic U« vi.-^nl Shitiit. ■ hniiniuns nf tin- l/nited State.* in tin- wiitcr-* nf UL-IirhiLt's * of \\\i> l.'iiitril Sl.iti's is lKril)V (lect-iri'tl to incliidr nii'l niiply t;i ull tlti* Si'ii, and it •iliall he the duty iif the Froidcnf, at it timely M'li.-snn in vtx'-h *ar, to Wtwv his IVochiiimthm Jitnl r.-uise th<- ^:lm^' t<> hv |nd*lish(d tcr <»iii' month in at least imt' in ws-pniitT, if any Mu-h lliere be |faMi*l»d. Ill rruh United Slates' jmrt (f cnliy 'in tlic Pariii! cciast, w.irtiin^ all prrsun'* .■iL'iin>t i-ntrriiij; said watcr.s for the puriioHo l*< \iol,itinK the |)ro\i>iuii of mu\ tiurtinn, atnl lie thi'll ubti eanse nne or more vessels of ih** United Staten to d'liir«ntly cruize in said vA^^r nud arrc.-'t all pt'isons, and seizo all persona found tu hi', or to Uxiw bt-cn enguj^ed in any \iohition <if thr \.\\\a uf (he United ^ites thprein. t Section lUrifi nf the Peviped Stitutes id as follows : ''Nn ppri^nn shall kill anv otter, mink, marten, sable or fur-si-al. or other |fc^bfnrin^ nninuil withm the limits uf Alaska Territory, or in the walcr- thcrt'of, and every per»)on gudly thtreof shall, or earh rftmr, he tintrd not le<s Ih:iii liOi) dnllars nor more than 1.000 ihilhir.-'. or imprisonment not more than »\\ niontli)*. or both, ami ail whls, their taekle, Hpparel, furniture, and carirt*, found engaged in violation of tbjjt geeti n, »hall be furffirrd. hut t!ie Secretary of itTreasury shall have power to aulhorize the killing of any eueh mink, marten, sable or other fur-bearlnif aulinal-, exrept fur-seil*, idit such rejtulalionn as lie may prescribe, and i; shail bo the duty of the Scerclary to prevent tin; killiiiir of any fiir-stal. and U> tddf for the execution of the pro* isions of this eertioD until it is otherwise provided by law, nor shall he graut uny r|iic:ji1 pileitis under this Beclion." it [1281 2 F n\ 290 pf Salisbury, a copy of a further telegram from the Governor-General of Canada, rerpoctint; ,tlie seizure of the " Black Diamond " and " Triumph ": — ,. " It appears from a telegram, dated the 8tii August, from Ottawa, that all luldiiionci information respectirg ' Black Diamond ' and ' Triumph ' is being sent to-day ; Mqis •have been taken to secure sworn affidavits as to exact location of sf;izurcs and lioui ciiiig of those vessels." I am, &c. ', . (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HERHERT. • . ' No. 207. ■ • • Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received August 15.) |Sir, Douninrf Street, August 11, ISsi). WIT FT refcrcnct^ to the letter from this Department of the 8rd instant rcspiciiii^f the seizure by the United States' authorities of the " Black Diamond " in the JBcIuiuL's Sea, I am directed by Lord Knutsfordto transmit to yon, to be laid before tli(> -AI;iriiiii< of Salisbury, and for such action upon it as his Lordship maj' think i)ropcr, a coiiy nf a further letter from tlie High Commissioner for Canada inclosing a copy of a r«.lit'oii to the President of the United States from the owners of the .Vmerican schooner " Sim Diego," which appears to support the Canadian view respecting such seizures. The Orders in Co-.ncil of the (,'anadian Government referred to Sir Cliailcs Tupperwere forwardea to the Foreign Office in the letters from this Department of tin 18th August last year and tlie 9th instant respectively. I am, &c;. (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. Inelosure 1 in No. 207. Sir C. Tupper to Lord Ktiutuford, 9, Victoria Chambers, IVestminster, London Myliord, Au st 9, 1889. WITIT reference to my letter of the 2nd instant oi. the subject of the scixuiv of British vessels in the Bebring's Sea by the United States, I now have tho homnuto transmit, for your Lordship's information, a copy of a Petition to the President el the United States from tho owners of the American schooner *' San Diego," Avhich srpm< to support the Canadian view of the matter. AVith regard to the American proposal J'or tho establishment of a close time for tho Behriug's Sea in relation to the scal-lishing, I should like to reefer your Lordsliip to the Order in Council of the Canadian Government, dated the '1th July, ISSS, wliidi deals very fully Avith this part of the question. I think both Lord Salisbury and your Lordshi]!, after a careful perusal of ihis dociiment, will conu? to the conclusion that tlie adoption of the proposal tluit ];■ discussed would practically mean the exclusion of our iishermen from the Be]!vinu''s Sea, Avhile, at the same time, it would operate entirely to the bcnciit of tlui Alask?. Commercial Company, with whose privileges it Avould not interfere. It also demon- strates, \n my opinion, that there is no scarcity of seals ; that any indiscriininiitf slaughter Iha't takes place occurs on the islands on wliich the American Coiniwiiy pursues its opor.:.tious, and that the se;>l-lishing industry niight be extended con- siderably without any appreciable eifcct upon the su[)ply. Supposing, howevci', llial,", nccessitv Avas found for some measures for protecting the seals, a proposition ol tin' kind shouhl be made; upon a proper basis, which would open-ate equally agniii-t :i!l, and not be a partial measure such as that suggested by the American Government, tin adoption of Avhieii would be tantamoimt to tho exclusion of British vessels froni ])artici])ation in the industry. I have! no doubt that your Lordshii) has seen by this time the furtlier Ordoi' iii Council of the Canadia.i (Jovernment api)roved by his Excellency the Govenioi- General on the 29th June, 1889. This also contains information, much of it I'loni American sources, proving beyond doubt the justice of the British claim to ( (|.i;l rights with the United States in the open Avators of Behring's Sea. The right oltliei American Governmeut to make Eegulations with regard to the fishing on tlio islau(ls| and the mai: disput(;d, but strougest jios! the open wati liavo advance( Majesty's Go that tliey will by tli(> Avithdr up, and not o; in tli(! fishery l)ut also dcma cargo have b( I consequence ( miizers. UNDER expounded in Garland (4 \V adjudged again furniture, and t as appears by i. reference, are ir Tlie offenc of fur-seals in provided. Ren 1. That th 2. That, o condemnation, rot offer itself i 3. That a parties to the p tbe District Co from the Jud» Act of May "l permits rights o 1. Because Treasury under l;o\ver conferred Statutes does n From the f ^re in danger without a full tl llie trial .Judge provided, and w lional power of ft has bc( power of remiss involved, oi- wh ;pn had. Our case is Mil not had, am w vessel had b( [t ivould he extn 'Oitod States. Upon this 1 [128] ref-pccting a(klilii)ni;l ay ; ^t^.'p5 loardiii;,' of IBIT»T. 1, ISr'l). rcsjji'cliu:' > J3clu'inL''s i(> .Miu'iniis ', :i cojiy 111' I' a ri'li'tliiu lonov " S:m ]iv Charles ncnt of the R13E11T. toi 291' jmd tlic mainland, and in the waters within the 3-milc limit from the shore, is not' disputed, but before the purchase of tlie territory, the United States dissented in the stmiii^est jiossible manner to any claim of exclusive jurisdiction by another Power in the open waters of the sea in question, ,".nd it is only comparatively recently that they liavo advanced their claim to I'egard thr, open sea as United States' proixTty. Her ilajcsty's Government have always resisted such a contention, and I cannot doubt tliiit tliey will now take such steps as will insure the promjjt settlement of the question by tlie withdrawal of the United States' Government irom the position they have taken up, and not only tluis enable British vessels to engaije peacefully, without molestation in tho fishery industry, in accordance with the rights conceded by interuatifmal law, Imt also demand reparation in favour of those persons whose vessels, equipment, and cai'i;o have been seized, and of those who have in other ways suffered injury in consequence of the harsh, arbitrary, and unjust acts of the United States' Revenue I cruizers. I have, &c. (Signed) CHARLES TUPPER. •, London, le sci/mv «i' I hoiioui'to .ent of tlic \ vhieh sm!i< DSC time fori .ordsliipto] S^S, wlik'li iisnl (if tliis sal lliii'i u 15i'ln'lii;''s Ihe Al;isb.' ilso (lemmi- iscriiuinntc Coinpniiy! ndoil ('"11- evi'v, llialE sition <il till' igniii'-t all. rnmiMit,ll!i' esscls from I lor Or.lor i Govi'vim of it I'l'oml im lo ('<['''' right ol' tlicl the islauds luclosure 2 in No. '207. Messrs. Handy and Co. to the President of the United Hlates. 32, Claii Street, San Francisco. UNDER the provisions of Articie 2, Section 2, of the Federal Constitution, as expounded in six opinions (Attorneys-General, p. 3!i3), and in the case of ex parte Garland (4 Wall, 333), we herewith respectfully apply to you to remit the forfeiture adjudiied against our vessel, the American schooner " San Diego," her tackle, apparel, luniiture, and cargo, in the District Court of the United States for the District of Alaska, as appears by the papers on file in the office of the Secretary of the Treasury, which, by reference, are made a part of this Petition. The ofl^ence for which our vessel and cargo were judicially condemned was the kilHng of fur-seals in the waters of Alaska, contrary to the Statute in such cases made and provided. Remission and pardon are invoked upon the following grounds : — 1. That the offence was not, in fact, committed. 2. That, owing to the distance and inaccessibility of the place of seizure, trial, and condemnation, and the ignorance of the master of said schooner, a fair opportunity did rot offer itself to us to make an adequate defence against the condemnation. 3. That although the trial and condemnation were had imder a belief shared by all parties to the proceeding that an appeal would lie for either party against the decision of the District Court of Alaska, and although such an appeal was duly taken in our behalf from the Judgment of Condemnation, it now appears exceedingly doubtful whether the Act of May 17, 1884, which organizes a judicial system for the territory of Alaska, permits rights of appeal in any case not strictly criminal. i. Because the Attorney-General, in opinions rendered to the Secretary of the Treasury under dates of the 19th March and Ifith April, 1SS7, has held that the remissory mver conferred upon the Secretary of the Treasury by sundry |)rovisions of the Revised jStatutes does not extend to our case. From the foregoing summary of the grounds of this Petition, it will be seen that we ire in danger of being for ever deprived of our property upon a doubtful state of facts Uithout a full though a legal hearing, under an apparently mistaken belief on the part of itlie trial .Judge and Council that means to review the decision of such Judge had been provided, and with no other effectual remedy now left to us than to resort to the constitu- tional power of the President to grant pardons and remissions. It has been said by Mr. Attorney-General Gushing (() Opin., 488), that the Ipower of remission is proper to be exercised in cases where doubtful questions of <a\v are [involved, or where parties are so situated that a due process of law cannot or has not EPn had. Our case is at least within the spirit of this opinion on both points, firstly, because we lad not had, and seemingly cannot have, one fair day in Court, and secondly, because if wr vessel had been engaged in killing seals in the waters alleged (a fact which we deny), ■ "ould be extremely doubtful if such killing would be an offence against any law of the ''nitcd States. Upon this point we refer to the decision of Mr. Secretary Boutwell, of the Treasury [128] 2P2 Kill .■:f ft m I If 292 Department, rendered in April 1872, wherein he held that the taking of fur-ser.ls in Behring's Sea was not unlawful unless attempted within a marine league from the oiiore. We need not remind your Excellency that the same position is held to-day by the Govern- ment of the United States in the matter of the Canadian fislieries, and that the tliret British vessels lately seized and judicially condcM\ne'i tor seal killing; in Bciiring's Sea have been released in obedience to the uniform and unswerving doctrine of our Government upon tiie question of what constitutes the high seas. When we add that our vessel was seized in the same waters at the same time, and condemned in the same Court upon precisely the same grounds as were these British sealers, recently set free, witli title restored to tlieir owners, we believe that we have stated full, sufticient, and reasonable grounds why tiic repudiated headland doctrine should not lie against us. Tiiere is no pretf nee set up in the evidence submitted on the part of the Government that oiu' vessel was scaling within the 3-mile limit, or was actually caught catching seals within the waters of Behrin^i's Sea. In the case of the "Ocean Spray," reported in 4 Law., ]). l(),j, Judge Ueady lield that, to constitute a violation of Section li.t.'ifi. Revised Statutes, uikIct which law our vessel was condemned, there must be an actual killing estai-'ished. Permit me to observe that if the forfeiture in our case shall be permitted to slanil,tlie anomj.lous spoctacle is presented that alien persons and foreign vessels are permitted hv our Governmont to pursue an industry and receive tiio mercy of pardon denied to citizens and vessels of the United States. No such distinction in matter of right and law between aliens and American citizens has ever been drawn by a Federal Administratioiv The facts of this case, as shown by the papers in the Treasury Department, which tli,' Secretary of the Treasury has not been permitted to examine by reason of the advcrsi' opinion of the .'\ttorney-General upon the question of his |)ower to remit, are as follows:— The American schooner "San Diego," of 3(i tons burthen, owned by Messrs. L.N, Handy and Co., American citizens and merchants at San I'Vancisco, was cleared at llmt port for a e;eneral hunting and lishing voyage in the North Pacific Ocean, on or about the 28th February, 188G. She commenced seal killing fjff the Fnrallonc Islands, about 20 miles from the Golden Gate ; continuing north, she hunted and fisiied on that ocean up to Ounalaska Pass, which she entered about the 'J4th June. Turning westward toward Copper Island, in the Russian waters of Behring's Sea, then heading eastward and soutli of the Aleutian Group, she made her way into tlie Pacific Ocean, and sailed eastward till Ounalaska Pass was again sighted. While operating outside this Pass, a coming storm induced llic vessel to run through the Pass into Mehring's Sea for safety, where she was befogged and without observation for three days. When the fog lifted, she was found to be off Oiuialnska Island, 12 or 15 miles from any land. Hcr<> she was hoarded fioui the Revenue-cutter •' Corwin " [?] 17th July, 1880, and was seized because the hoaniiiw officer mistook the purpose of the master's answer, that he had killed a few seals in Behring's Sea ; the muster referring to some thirty seals taken near Copper Island, in RussiUii \vater>^, and the boarding ofiicer supposing him to admit tt)at he had been seaHns within the water boundary of the United States. The hoarding officer was also misled by the presence of skins of recently killed seals on board, tiie explanation being that snine twcnty-t\\ o sealskins had been taken in the Pacific Ocean, off Ounalaska Pass, before runiiim in for shelter, and hud not been salted, because rough weather and fog had prevented the carei'id process of cleaning, salting, and folding from being carried upon the deck ot so small a vessel as the " Suu Diego." It appears that the owners of the " San Diego " had cxjircssly instructed the master not to interl'cre with the privileges of the Alaska Coraniercial (,'(>in|)any, nor violate the law in any ])articular, and, although we hold that, under the ruling of Mr. Seeretaiy Boutwell, the diplomatic contention of one Government, and the doctrine recognized in the recent release of the IJritish sealing vessels, our vessel might lawfidlv have taken seals in the very place where the ofiicer found her with fresh sealskins on board, we are obliged to a<lh( re to the contention that she did not take any seals in that ])lace nor anywhere thcre:dniuts, because the evidence shows that not a skin was obtained in the whole of MehrinuB Sea, ex-jept near Cojjper Island, in the Russian jurisdiction. When discovered by the Revenue-cutter the vessel was entirely inactive, her sealing boats lashed on deck, waiting lor an opportunity to get out upon the ocean to continue her bn-in.iss. It would appear from the testimony of Lieutenant (.'antwcll, of the R';'venne-cutter, ^hat he asked the master of the schooner if lic did not know that it was illegal to take seals around here, and he answered that he did not Know that it was against the la v so long as he kept a marine league from the siiore. This answer suggests a possible inten- tion of taking seals in that vicinity if opportunity offered, but the fact is that no s.iils were taken, nor docs it aj)pear that any could have been taken u|i to the time of the seizure of the vessel if the wish and purpose to take them had existed. It is very evident from the v seizures of that voyng n hunting fact would tion ; henc transaction Your Alaska aga of his oppc 1, Thi oa hcaid, Behring's S in Hehrmg .*ittcd and d have been c Ills sealing Behring's S fishing lawl outside, tho this argume thought he in finct even ."'. Says Pass into lit 'i'his ut of the vessel through the 4. Says represented niony now o This ar opportunity and argumer them res|)or Counsel retr production eaij)l()yed tlr he (lid not ft 5. 'Jhe the pending This ari there is no C jurisdiction, r>. That 'lids aru Court, whicii nitainst perso lioners of re benefit of tho 84 1, United I In eoncl the place whe peiut of law, iit the same t I'orleiture in t own, have bei our own, we appearances, ; Secretary of t tiiat personal! and that whil of Rehrinur's S , wliicli the lie advcrsi' follows :— jssi's. L. N, red at tlint V iihout the iiul.«, about it ocean up aid toward :1 and south ?astward till iiniii'; storm eve she was as tbuiul to d from tlu' ,0 boavdip:,' ' seals in Island, ill luie-euttcr, i^-al lo t:ilii'| the lav so I ssible intcii- int no sriilsl time .)f lliel very evident I from tlie whole record that \vc, tlie present petitioners and sole prospective losers hy the ' seizures of tiie vessel, never intended nor contemplated the taldni; of n single sealskin on that voj'age in an unlawCnl or clandestine manner. Havitig; openly cleared our vessel for n liuntinj!; voyasc in the North I'acitie, \vc Knew that, in due course of administration, that • fact would reach tin- Alaska Company, and the Revenue vessels employed for their protec- tion ; hence it would he folly on our part to assent beforehand to any duhious or risky transaction hy our a^cnl, the master. Your Excellency will not fail to consider the United States' Attorney-Ciencral for Alaska airainst our application for the restoration of our vessel aiid cari;;o. The grounds of his opposition and our answers are as follows : — 1, The finding of the vessel in 15eli'.inp;'s Sea, equipped for tishim:, with fresh skins on beard, together with the admission of the master that a few had been taken in Behring's Sea, raises a jiresumption against our present evidence that no seals were taken in neliring's Sea except near ('opper Island. To this we answer, llic vessel was openly {iticd and dispatched for seal-tishin^ ; that the f/esh skins on hoaid could not reasonably have been cleaned, salted, and packed before seizure, and that the master had reference to liis senling operations near Copper Island when he said he had taken a fe.v seals in Beliriiig's Seu. 2. Tlie District Attorney says that the answer of the ma'-ter, that he thought seal- tisliing lawful outside of a ;5-niile limit, raises a presumption that he had been fishing, outside, though within the water boundary of the United States; to which wc reply that this argument makes for rather than against our present application, because if the master thought he had the right to seal outside the .'}-mile limit, his doing so would bo innocent, in fact even if illegal at law. ."». Says the District Attorney, the allegation tliat the vessel was driven through the Pass into Behring's Sea is improbable, and throws suspicion upon the merits of the case. This unimportant observation doubtless arises from confounding the voluntary passage of the vessel through tlie Pass to escape a storm, with a sujiposititious driving of the vessel through the Pass hy the wind. 4. Says United States' Attorney that, although the owners of the vessel were represented by Counsel, they did not produce at the judicial hearing the imjiortant testi- mony now offered pt parte. This argument is met by the circumstance that the ownerr, of the vessel had no opportunity to select Counsel for themselves, nor lo induence the production of evidence and arguments in their behalf in that distant locality, and hence it would he hard to hold them responsible for a failure to prcdiice evidence at the trial, which they admit the - Counsel retriined for them by the ca|)tain ought io have produced, iind for the non- liroduetion of which said Counsel Imve been dropped from the case. The captain who ('ni])loyed the Counsel at Sitka thought his own testimony ought to have been taken, but he (lid not feel iiuaiified to (piestion the judgment of his attorneys. 5. The District Attorney believes the merits of the case can be better determined on the pending Appeal I'lom the judgmeiit than by an executive proceeding. This argument is refuted by circumstances that, so (ar as the Statute Rook shows, there is no Court in which the Appeal, taken at large to the Circuit having ajipeiative jurisdiction, can be located or determined. (i. That the jjower to remit is an extraordinary one, and should he used rcstrictingly. This argument of the District Attorney has been long since answered by the Supremo Court, vvhicli has said that the laws i.nposing penalties are not to he construed strictly iiiiuinst persons or jiroperty for the benefit of the revenue, and that the laws conferring jiowers of remission are remedial in their nature, and should be liberally used for the benefit ot those who have itinocentlv incurred the sanction of the penal law. (10 Whealon, 841, United States v. Morris, lOG.)' In conclusion, we remind vour Excellency that no seals were in fuct taken in or near the place where the Revenue oflicer supposed the "San Diego " had heeii sealing; that, in point of law, no unlawful sealing was done hy our vessel ; that the Mritish vessels seized at the same time, in the same locality, for the same cause, and judicially condemned to I'orteiture in the same Court, by the same Judge, and under the same circumsbinees its our own, have been released upon the ground of innocency ; that without any actual fault of our own, we have, in fact, been deprived ot a fair trial in the Court below, and, to all iippearanccs, are left without further judicial remedy ; that the reniissoi y powers of the Secretary of the Treasury, by u piobaMc oversight in the Statutes, do not reach our case ; tliat personally we have been free from all evil intent, fault, or negligence throughout ; and that while our agent, the master, did not take the seals within the American boundary ot liehring's Sea, he might justly have doue so in view of tlic ruling of Mr. Secretary Bout- ' M ■■- I ■ i is ^? m »-,i « m m 384' ivell, the diplomatic action of our own Government from the first to the present tiiomcnt, and the general hclief of merchants, lawyers, and all persons interested in tiie seal fisheries tliat such fisiiing is lawful in any ])art of IJehring's Sea, except near the islatuls of St. Paul, St. George, or within 3 miles of the shore. Havinfj iile<l with the Secretary of the Treasury the papers upon which we rely to sustain the position taken therein, and convincing evidence of our u;ood standing as citizens and merchants, we pray your Excellency to lake this Petitiou info prompt and lavourahin consideration, and release us henceforth from the serious and coiitiiuiing loss tliat we have undeservedly sufi'ered, and are suffering, hy the seizure and retention of our vessel and cargo, in which no third parties are interested as informers or ca|)tors. Respectfully submitted, (Signed) L. N. HANDY and Co., Commission MiTchiinls, No. 208. Forriijn Officr to Colonial Office. Sir, Foiriijn OJ/ice, August 17, 18S'.). T AM directed by tiie Marquis of Salisbury to recjuest that you will state to Secretary Lord Knutsford that, in his Lordship's opinion, it is very desirable, pendini; the receipt of full details in reijurd to tiie recent seizure in |}eiuiiig's Sea by the United St.itcs' lluventie- cutter "Rush" of the British vessels "Black Diamond" and "'rriumph," that steps should be taken to proceed at once with the appeals to the Supreme Court of flic United Stati-s in the cases of the British vessels whose sealing operations were stoj)ped under similar eireumstauees in 188G. I am to reijuest, therefore, that you will suggest, for Lord Ivnutsford's consideration, that a telegram should he sent to the Governor-General of Canada to the efi'eet that, it being very unusual to press for diplomatic redress for a private wrong, so long i'S there is a reasonable chance of obtaining ir from the Tribunals of the country under wiiose juris- diction the wrong complained of has occurred, Her Majesty's Government consider that they would be in a stronger position for dealing diplomatically with the Beliring's Sea cases if ajipeals on the eases of seizure which took |)lace in 188(> were pushed on. 1 am, &c. (Signed) T. IL SANDERSON. No. 200. Mr, Edwardes to the Marquis of Salishunj. — (Received August 19.) My Lord, Washington, August 5, 1889. ON tlie 1st instant I had the honour to inform your Lordslup by telegra|)h that the newspapers reported the seizure on the I Ith ultimo by the United States' Revenue cruizer "Rush" of the British schooner "Black Diamond," sealing in Bciuing's Sea, being at the d the time of the seizure 70 miles trom land. It was also reported that another British schooner, the "Triumph," w^s also boarde by the Captain of the " Rush," but no arrest was made, the seal-skins on board tli "Triumph " having been cajitured in the Pacific, and not in the Bchring's Sea. I have not up to the present date received any oflieial information on the subject. There is, however, no doubt about the truth of the faet tliat the seizure of a British vessel has been made, nnd that another British vessel was stopped an(' searched, both occurrences taking place on the high seas, on the grounds that they had no legal rights to seal-fish in those seas. The (jucstion of the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States over the Behring's Sea is thus reopened, but it does not appear that any new feature in tiie case has presented itself. However, a novel situation is produced by the fact whi(;h is reported, that, after the seizure of the " Black Diamond," one of the crew of the United States' cruizer having been placed on board of her by the Captain of the " Rush," with orders to take her to Sitka, the Captain of the British vessel ignored the instructions of the man in whose charge she was supposed to be, and sailed for Victoria, British Columbia, where she is reported to have arrived safely. Mad she gone to Sitka, she would, in nil probability, have been declared by the United States' District Court of Alaska a lawful prize. As your Lordship will remember in the case of the British sealers which were seized during '-'ll S8ft the last two yenis, and after aci/ure were condemric' oy the United States' District Court of Alaska, the United States' (lovcrmuciit aj^rcucl to release them on their owners giving bond to appeal to a higher ('ourt. Few, if any of them, availed tlieinselvcs of this permission, and they were ultimately sold by public auction. [ have been given reason to believe by a lawyer of sonu! standing in this city, tiiat through sonic defect ifl the legislation affecting the territory of Alaska, the only appeal that could have been mhdc in the matter would have been to the Supreme Court of the United States. 1 cannot luilieipatc that the United States' (iovorninent would try and justify before that Court the seizures by a pretension that the Bebring's Sea is not an open sea. However much their action and the action of Congress may appear to put forward and maintain siicli a |)rcten.si()ii, it is llu- general opinion that the Supreme Court would not hesitate to pronounce itself iigainst it. On what the United >itates' Government would base their claim to exclusive seal- fishing rights in the llehriiig's Sea it is difticult to foresee, but in conversation a short time ago with a |U)litician of very high standing under the late Administration, I learnt that the following argument has been l)rought forward and used by one or more of the most prominent lawyers in the Mouses of Congress. I'hcy maintain that the "seal nation" in tiiose seas has its domicile, lireeding-grounds, &e., on United States' territory, where it is carefully preserved and protected by United States' law, and consequently they do not admit that the seal loses its nationality when its habits cause it to temporarily absent itselt from its home. Krom what I gatlicred from the gentlemen above referred to, I I'eel confident that this was one of the chief arguments wliicb might have been used by the United States' (Government bad the matter been brought up to the Supreme Court during the time that the late Adtiiinstration was in power. I have, &e. (Signed) H. G. KDWARDES. No. 210. Colonial Office to Forolijti Office. — {Received August 20.) Sir, Downing Street, August 19, 1889. AVrril reference to your letter of the 17th instant, I am directed by iiord Knutsford to transmit to you, for the information of the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a telegram which has been addressed to the (jovernor-dieneral of Canada in connection wjth the Ik'hring's Sea seizures in 188fi. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Tnclosurc in No. 210. Lord Knutsford to Lord Stnnlei) of Preston. (Telegraphic.) Colonial Office, August 18, 1889. IT is very unusual to press for diplomatic redress for a private wrong as long as there is a reasonable chance of obtaining it from the Tribunals of the country. Her Majesty's Govermm-nt consider that they would be in stronger position for dealing diplomatically with Behring's Sea cases if appeals on 1886 seizures were pushed oa. < i| No. 211. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received August 21.) Sir, Downing Street, August 20, 1889. WITH, reference to previous correspondence I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, with its inelosurcs, containing information respecting the recent seizure of the schooner " filack Diamond " and the detention of the schooner "Triumph " in Behring's Sea.- .. '•■ ■■ ';■ ■ ' I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. "^T' 290 ' ■ ' ' Inclosure 1 in No. 211. Lord Stanley of Prenton to Lord Kiiulsford. My Lon), Citadel, Quebec, Aiujunl 8, 188D. IN tmnstnitlingto your Loidsliip sucIj infurinntion as I have been able to pioourc up to the present time respecting tlie recent seizure of tlie schooner " Black Diamoml," and the detention of the schooner " Triumph," in Kehrin^'s Sea, I deem it my (hity to brin;; to your notice the very strong fcelinir which is arising throughout the Dominion consccpient upon the continued seizures of Canadian vessels upon tlie open sea, and their condemnation in the United States' Courts of law. A sense of irritation is growing up in the public mind not only against tlie Government of the United States, but against the Imperial Government, which may at any moment result in serious trouble, and there is reason to apprehend that, if the supposed inaction of the Home Government continues, the sealers may be driven to armed resistance in iiefcnce of what they believe to be their lawful calling, and it would be difficult, if not impossible, for the Dominion Government to prevent such a state of affairs. 1 had the honour recently to inclose to your Lordship a Minute of the Privy Council containing a very full recital of the past history of the so-called Bebring's Sea question, and I must express the earnest hope that your Lordship will move the Foreign Office to take such steps as may tend to an early settlement. Up to fhe present time there has been every disposition on the part of the Canadian people to rely on the maintenance by the imperial Government of the inter- national rights which the Foreign Office is charged with the duty of protecting, and if the question of the free navigation of the North Pacitic (or Behring's Sea) were fully maintained, I do not think that any reasonable measures which could be proposed for the protection of the (so-called) seal fishery would meet with a refusal here. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosure 2 in No. 21 1. Lieutenant -Colonel John Tilton to Sir John Macdonald. (Telegraphic.1 Victoria. J uhj '',0, 1889. SIR JOHN THOMPSON requests that the following telegram, just received, addressed to Honourable Mr. Tupper from Victoria, signed E. Crow Buker, may be repeated to you : — " British schooner ' Triumph ' arrived yesterday evening from Behring's Sea. Master reports seizure of IJritish schooner ' Black biamond ' with catch of sealskins by American Kevenue-cruizer ' Rush,' 70 miles off land. Boarding officer informed master that all vessels found with President's Proclamation and recent instructions (.s/c) issued by Secretary of Treasury {xic). ' Triumi)h ' had no skins on board, and therefore escaped immediate confiscation. Is it not possible to afford protection to some twenty Canadian schooners still there prosecuting their legitimate business, and liable to immediate seizure if not alrea<ly seized ? Steamer ' Sardonyx ' leaves witli coal for British war-ships now at Port Simpson on Thursday r.ext. Please reply immediately what steps Federal Government will now take in tlie "matter. Meeting to-day of those interested, who strongly urge this message. Senator Macdonald of Toronto heartily endorses action of owners here. In meantime scaling business interests completely paralyzed." Inclosure 3 in No. 211. Extract from the " Ottawa Ur.enintj Journal," of July 31, 1889. ■ • '; o ;■- . The Sealer Seizure. San Francisco, Cala, July 30. — The steamer " Dora," from Behring's Sea, brings the first detailed news of the capture of the British sealer " Black Diamond," by the United States Revenue-cutter '•' Richard Rush," on the 1 1th July. The " Rush " overtook the *' Black Diamond " and ordered her to heave-to. The captain of the "Black Diamond" refused. Thereupon the commander of the " Rush " ordered a lowering of ports and mmm 20? runiiiiig riiU of guns, wliiiii {•iiiiscd tin- sti-nmtT to liciiw-lo. Cnpl.tiii Sliopard atid Liciitcnnnl Tuttli' liontdcil tlir Knj;li>ti ciiill iiiul iiskfd (or her |ih|um-s. 'I'liu officiMs of tlu; "Black Uian.ond " ollircd no iirmi'd rcsislaiici'. luil ul'iiscd to deliver tlic |)ai)t'i-8. Captain Slicpaul at once biokf o|.iii tlic caliin, and foucd llio liin^cs off I lie stronuj Imx and the captain's clicst, llicicliy >c(iiiin,:i I In- pa|iri>. A scarcii of tlie vcssi-l disclosed 10,001) sialskins, which had l;crii tiikcii in Hchiinu's Sea. Captain Shrpnrd iilacrd a nou- conimisaioned olficer lioiii IIk; " Un>h " in cluirij;e of the •', lilack Diamond," and onlered (he vessel to be taken to Sitka to await further insliucii ns. 'lin- captain of the " Hlaek Diamond " stated that wlicn in \icloria he had been ordered to pay no attention in case he wiis overtaken by the " Ivush " and re(iiic*ted to heave-to. ilc said he would not have surrca'iered if the" Rush" had had an inferior force to his own. On the 1st July the sciiooncr "Triurpph" was also boarocd by C'ai)tain Shepard, but no arn'st was made, the skins Oil boiMci having been captuicd in the Pacific. A passenger who arrived on tliu ••Dora'' siiid : " On our way down from St. Paul's Island we saw six sealers and tlio "Rush" pursuing. Un(loui)tedly by this time (he "Rush" has made additional captures." :y\' Captain Sliepard's Report. Washingloti, July ',]0. — A telegram from Captain Shepard, commanding the llevenue- stennier " Rush," says lie seized the " Mlaek Diamond " for violation of section 1 950 of the revised statutes. This section was incor|)orated in the Pre?ident's Proclamation of the 21st March, on the subject of seal (isheries. It forbids the killing, by nnauthorized jiei'sons, of seal and other fur-bearing animals within the limits of Alaska or in the waters thereof. The penalty provided is a fine of from "JOO dollars to 1,000 dollars, or imiirison- iiient for not exceeding six montli.«, or both, and the (brfeiture of the vessels violating tbe law. brings the lie United ertook the Diamond '' ports and Fnclosurc 4 in No. 211. Extract flow the " Ottmva Citizen" of Auyusl .'{, 1889. Hkiiuing's Sea Tuoujji.ks. (By telegraph to the " Citizen.") Wiishinfjton, L'/if/. — The seizure of the British scaling-vessel " Black Diamond" by the Rcvciiuccuttcr '" Rush" is believed to be the beginning of .a series cf seizures which must j lead to some definite understanding between the United States and Great Britain on the suhjcct. (ireat Biitain has eniphaticaliy expressed tiie opinion tLat tbe United States' jGovcininent has no jurisdiction (/vcr the Behring's Sea outside the 3-niile limit. Our Government proceeds on the assumiiiion that it has a viglit to jn'otcct the seal in any part of the Behring's Sea, although the State Department has never stated that assumption in lircct terms, and all its olficial utterances on the subject carry the convietion of the pL'pnrtment's consciousness of inability to establish the claim on tiic basis of any Treaty am'i'cii.ent or international law. Mven the Acts of Congress do not anywhere assert a I'laiin over the whole of Behring's Sen, but only over Alaskan waters or the waters adjacent llo Alaska and to our ivlaiuls in l)eliiii;:;'s Sea. Indeed, the one |)lna uiinn wliieli the lUiiited States' (Joveinment captures sealing-vc3<els i\ll over the Ihou-aiuls of miles of Iwiitcr within Behring's Sea is that tlu^ wellare of mankind recpiires that the seal shall be Iprotceted from poachers. The Knglish tJovernment agrees that the seal should bo [rarcl'iilly ])rotected and preserved, but confeiuls that it has a right to be consulted as to Itlie iDclhod of i)rotccting the seal on the 0|Hn sea. The United vSlate.-^' (Jovernnicnt is uuwillini; to take other Governnients into partner- Jsliip in the business, bceause the seal really belon'.;s to the Pribyiov Islands, allliougli it- Iscmetimes strays to distant waters to s|)etKi tlie winter. Nevertheless, when it comes Ut la crisis, this Government will probably have to admit that it has no right to say, inde- Ipendent ot other nations, that seal shall not be taken '200 or 300 miles I'rom shore. It pould not be surprising if some serious collisions should occur between the seal-hunters < Tind our Revenue-cutters. The sealers are out in numbers, and the seizures that arc sure Itobe made this sup.'mcr must bring things to a crisis and lead to a settlement of right in (lie iiuitter. Sir Julian Pauncefotc will have big business to attend to when he returns to Vasliington. He will doubtless bring back with him some urgent representations from LI 28] 2 Q ' 1 iy ;| *l^ 906 Lord Salisbury. Sir Julinii said belorc sailing for Kn;;laii(l tliut up to tliut lime tlie subject l)(id not been talked of nt all between liimsclt' and tlio State Department liun , The seizure and scarcli ol" the •'Triunipli," which was alterwards rclcuscd bcciiii^r i,,, scalslunsi won; I'oiind on board, nmy bo a more serious matter tiiun the sii/ure of ih, " JMack Uiainoiid," for it involved the right of the United States to si i/e and mimh, suspected vessels outside of what are conceded to be the limits of the juriridictiini <ii i||,. United States. liiniijor, Me., Ist. — Secretary Blaine passed through this city thi;* evening' m roiilf to lliir Harbour. A reporter called Ills attention to i\ declaralion in a I'dsIuh paper that it woulil be impossible for the national Government, to "sustain the prcliiivin,! of Secretary illaine that Jkhrin.n's Sea is distinctly American water." 'J'lie Sci n t iiv (i| State simply reinarked that it might be well (or the luiper in (juestion to iiKiiciiii' tli„ occasion, ollicial or \niotIicial, where he said anything at ail on that point. Mr. liluin, idded that evcrythinp; dune on the fur-seal question sinen the 4th of last Murcli u:is i;, literal compliance with the directions contained in the Act of Conyress which was apjaovui by President Clcvelaud on the last day of his term. Inclosure .'> in No. 211. I':,ct met from (lir " Ottnn-n Citizen " of August '5, 1889. Virtoriii, ILL'., olli. — The most astonishing thing tliat has happened here since tl; foundation of the town was the arrival in the harbour yesterday of the " Black Diamond,' Ca|)tain Thomas, which, on the 11th July last, was seized by the American llevcnuc-eui'i: " Rush," tor the alleged illegal capture of seals in Utiiriijg's Sea. Captain 'rhoiims, ih, moment ho stejiped ashore, was met by the owners of the schooner, and to thiin Li reported the facts connected with the interruption of his vessel's sealing tiij). He siL.'lii((i the Kevcnue-eutter " Hush" on the 11th July, 5 miles away. He was eatchin;; se.Js at the time, and was 70 miles otf shore. He immediately made sail, intending to cliult' tin j cutter and avoid any possible trouble. 'J'he wind, unfortunately, was rather light, and " Ru.sh's " engines enabled her, inside of an hour, to overhaul the "Black Diainoiul "I The ('i)inmander of the " liush " at first signalled the schooner to heave to, hut wl attention being paid to the order by Captain Thomas, the " Hush" steamed almost along- side, her C\)mmander shouting out his order for her to lay to. This he did tlirce tiim-, but Captain Thomas still paying no attention to him, he steamed ahead of the '•Hlarkl Diamond "and lay across her bows, compelling Captain Thomas to haul bis vessel up sharply and lay to. Then Lieutenant Tuttlc, three other officers, and two boat-loads of Yankee saikirsl came aboard ami began making an examination of the " Black Diamond " hold. Ciipiainl Thomas demanded an explanation, when Lieutenant Tuttle informed him that liis VLSsd was under seizure for the illegal catching of seals, and demanding the " Black Uianioi.ii's" pajiers. Captain Thomas indignantly repudiated the charge that he was acting ilieijallyj and refused to give up his papers. Lieutenant Tuttle argued, demanded, and tlireatcmi:,! and finally, alter three distinct, cniplmtie refusals on Captain Thomas' part, ordered hij seamen to breid< open the cabin lockers and iind what the Captain refused to give up. Thcl papers were found, and Lieutenant Tuttle took possession of them, refusings to Captainj Thomas' repeated demands to return thcni. An American sailor named John Hawkins wasi then left aboard by the Commander of the "Rush," who informed Ca|)tain Thomas that licl and his mate were under arrest, that the schooner was to be taken to Sitka, that the ciwl were not to be detained ; but that the vessel was to bo delivered over to the United tilatcj'l Collector of the Port of Sitka, who would take whatever further action should be tli()Ui;litl necessary by the American authorities. Written instrmtions to this effect were given tol Hawkins, and, after a thorough search of the schooner, l,ieutenant Tuttle, with his olIiai>r and men, departed, and shortly afterward the "Rush" steamed otf toward some otlicrl vessels in sight. Captain Thomas said nothing to Hawkins, but putting up the port liclnij headed toward the Alaskan shore. Four days later the " Rush " was passed by the " Bliclf Diamond," but did not hail her; the schooner was headed in the proper direction, anl there was no necessity for speaking to each other. But the next day the "ISIacJ Diamond " reached the harbour of Ounalaska, in the island of that name, forming one i the Fox Islands in the Aleutian group, and went inside in the hope of finding there i English man-of-war. The place was deserted however, except by natives, so Captaiii Thomas, without any ado, turned his vessel about, heading for the passage leading into thi Pacific Ocean, and, reaching that, headed straight for Victoria, where he arrived as describ 2m above. Captuiu Tliuiiias siiid he wusii't ^oiiig to kl uiiy one Yunkuo sailor tukc liiiii caplive into Sitkn, nnri, as Nciuiion Hawkins nppenrs to liavc lind very little to say about llie inattrr after tlic " Rush " dcpurtcd, tlic Caiiadiiin kept \m determination. 'i'iiern was no violence on the " JMack Diamond." Hawkins, as soon as lie saw that Captain Thomas didn't intend to sail the sehooner into Sitka, seems to have made some snrt, 1)1 a protest, incfl'ectuni, of course, and then settled down to a realization of tiie truth fli .-^ayiti^' that " there's many a slip 'Iwixt the cup and the lip." Me was (piitc hopeful, ftlicii he eame ashort; to-day, that he wouldn't be swuiij; from a yard arm for not <)l)eyin}? i)ril( rs. In tiie face of iiis predicament Ik; was in fact remarkably clie( rlul. I le proceeded lit ontT to the American Consulate, where, handing; over his instructions to the United St:ile>i' ('Onsul, he made a statement of what liappetwid, as lie saw it, since the "Hush" |.;iiti)il with him. His history of the all'air has been telciirapiied to tiie autliorities at •,Viisliiiii,'t()n. The utmost satisfaction is felt here at the escape of tiw; " lilaeU Diamond," larticularly amonK the sealers and the owners of sealiiiL'-vessels, and Captain Thomna is biinu; made a lion of for his conduct in the matter. Inclosure G in No, 211. Exiracljiniii the " Ottawa Citizen" of An ij us I (i, l«K!). [.s IT A Hack DOWN r IVnsliinijtnn, District of Columbia, C)tli Auijust. — [.S'/«tih/.] — In some (luarters t.iic Irunniiii; away of the " IMack Diamond" is looked u|)on as uolhiiiu; more or less than a siiirender of the position taken by the United States on the 15ehrinf{'s .Sea (picstion. [t was Li) stated this morning by an cx-otlieial of the Government, and, upon my asking for his reason for such a view, he simply referred to tiie course pursued l)y the Treasury and State Departments in IHH8 as a sullicient answer. According to his theory, the seizure pi'tlie "15laek Diamond" was all for cH'ect, and her arrival at a iuitish port was nothing I more nor less than what was expected. The Treasury j)eo|)le witii wiiom I e )nversed ou jtlic subject scouted this position as most absurd. Tiiey state tliat Captain Shcpard was Icairyinj; out bis instructions, and would never have seized the " Blaek Diamond'' unless llic was convinced tliat tiie laws of tliis (jovernment on the fur-seal matter had been lopcniy and unipiestionably violated. Full particulars by mail are to reacli the Treasury iDcpailnient not later than Wednesday next. Captain Slie])ard will explain ttie se:''urc of Itlic "Black Diamond," and tliis, the Treasury peoi)le say, will fully explain his action on Ikakin-r open the cabin and taking possession of the ship's papers. The action of ICantiiin Shepard has t;iven rise to considerable comment in oflici.d circles. One of the Ijeiitlirucn with whom 1 talked, and who is well informed, said tlio " lllaek Diamond" will Ibi' seized the first time she ap.pears in .American water for tliis same iH'ence, but it will be laloii^' lime before the opportunity for such a seizure occurs, and there is no law by which Itk' case can be reached otherwise. Tlu! vessel was seized and got away, and tliat is the Iwlmle story in a nut shell. Tlie Hritish Charge d'Atfaires lias not received any information psyct regarding this new development in liehring's Sea. Inclosure 7 in No. l-'ll. Extract f yarn the " Toronto Globe" of Auyunt 1, 1889. i;: (tl'i \-< i\ More Dktails. Victoria, British Columbia, 8\st Ju///.— Captain McLean, of the British sealer 'Triumph," which has arrived here from iicliring's Sea, is reticent about atfair.s in the fcortli. It is stated by others on the vessel, however, that when tlie "Triumph " was pgiited by the " Rush " there were thirty seals dead lying on the " Triumph's " deck. peso are hurriedly skinned, and the jielts bidden among a large cpiantity of salt. This felt also formed a heavy coating to about 800 sealskins which lay in the 'bottom of the kliooncr. Lieutenant Tuttle made an examination, but seeing notliina; but salt departed. riie men on the " Triumph " say that Captain Dodd, of the " Mac," had said he would (ire h any American officers attempting to board his vessel. Lieutenant Tuttle told japtain McLean he had seen five schooners entering Behring's Sea on the 4th July, viz., [Maggie Mac," "Triumph," "Mary Ellen," "Lillie L.," and " Black Diamond." The [128] 2 (i 2 aoo latter wns cnpt'ircd, l)ut tlic fate of the otlicra is uiilvnovvn. Tlio "Crtrona " arrived to-duy. Cnpliiin Carroll siiys when lu! leflJuncau, Wednesday, the Uritish n)cn-of-w;ir " Swiftstirc," " Icarus," luul " Atnphion" were there; they lelt for I'ort Simpson on tho following dav. The " Corona" heard nothini; of tho seizures. A iiuinhcr of prominent dPalinn men waited on the Cajjtain of tha Britisli man-of-war "Cliampion," which sailed to-day for the north to Join the fl.'et, and fjiive him fill particulars ni wiitin;^. lie will convey then |)ersonally to Admiral Ilenca^c. A deputa- tion also waited on the ilonourahic John Kohinson, Provincial Secretary; he Ims tele(,'ra|)hcd to Ottawa dcmandinj; protection of the Imperial (Jovernmcnt, 'IVieiiiams nUo have l)eeii sent hy the most prominent puhlic men of tlie province. Tiic action of the Imperial Covernmcni is anxiously awaited. No. 212. TIk' M(n-<iHls of Stiliybunj to Mr. Edinirdfy. —(Sulistnnri' trli'iji-djihctl.) Sir. Fnrrlijii OJfin; AiKjiist -I'l, I SKI). I IKK Maiesty's Government ore in receipt of rcpi'ated rumours tliat liilii^ii vessels have lieen searched and even seized in Ik-iuiiifs's Sea, outside the .'{-mile liiMiii ■,• from any land. No oHicial confirmation of these rumours has yet reached Her Majesty's (ioveriiimiit, hut they apjiear (o he authentic. 1 iiave to iiistriict you to inquire of the United Slates' Government whether .inv similar inlbrmation has reaelic I them. You will also rc(|uest that stringent instructions may he issued as soon us praetir:;!)!,' to the olheials of tiie United States to prevent the possible recurrence of snch incidents. 1 nm, &e. (Signed) SALISBUKV. No. -Jia. .t;ii. Tltp Maniiiis of Sitlisbiinj lo Mr. Edwunlcs. — {Siib.slanve leleijraphvil.) Fnre'iijn Oftivp, Auijunt 22, 188!). W'llKX von ni.'ilvc (he communication to .Mr. 15laine, as instructed m my prcvioiK (icspat( li of this (lay's date, relativeto the recent sei/.iiies of IJritish vessels in liehriiii;'.-' Sc;i, I sliould wish you tn remind him that clear thinii;h unotlieial assuiaiiees were j;iveii last year liv .Mr. IViyard that, peiuliiiu: the general discussion of the (lucstions at i?sue ')ct.vu':i Her . Majesty 's {Government and tlial of the United States, no further iiUerlerenee .-ii.uld take place witii Hiitish siiips in Heiirln^'s Sea at a dislanee iVom the siiore. You \\ill linil (he record of such an assurance conveyed to me throu^^h Mr. I'lirlp^ in my (iispalcli to Sir L. \\'est of the .'{rd Apiil, 18S"<, and Sir C. 'I'uppcr inforuis iiif that -Mr. I'ayard liave pcisonally similar assurances to liim and tho other me;nl)L'rs >)'' the Comn.ission sent to \\ asliinj;ton. .""ir.J. Paiuicelbte will he |)repare(l to disci ss (he whole (pieslion when he returi;-; lii ^\'as!lin^;ton iri the aiiti-.nm ; hut you sl.culd ]',;iint out that a settlement will only ii/ hind(;red ^hould the Uuitod States' authorities ic.-ort to measures of loice auiain^t lliilis i ships beyond the Jj-milc limit, aj;aiiist which ili; Majesty's Cijvernment must ni'.'c.ssurily protist as contrary (o the princi|)le of in'.ern.ii.I,(iial law, which the United .States have aoi only acknoulc'diicd, hut have themselves firmly and publicly maintained. 1 am, iVc. (Signed SALISBURY. '■i it No. 214. i\/r. Edti-ardin to the Maniuix of Salisbury. — {Received by telegraph, August 2G.) My Lord, ' ' Newport, August 2(], 188!). I HAD the honour to receive on the 23rd instant your Lordship's two telc,i!r:mi» of the 22nd ultimo, instructing me to inform the Secretary of State that repeated ruaioiiis I had of iale reached Ilcr Majesty's Government that United States' cruizers have stopped, il to-(liiy, nftsiirc," »iii;4 (lay. in-ot-war liiin fill . (lepiiU- : l)L- liiH lou ol' the ;, INH!). lit Dilii^ii k' (li^l;iii"o ivcnilmiit, ictlicr ,mv pracllc\>l)l.' iciilciits. ) ;, ]ssi). )Vi.'vi,ni-; i-iii'j,V Sc;i, .ivi'ii li^;, ,iK' bctwtcii •IK'l' ^'!l lUld I'lu'lp- ill iiKii'iiw nil' hj\-<. .il' l.!ie rc'tui'!;-; I" II only li.' 11 -t i'lili-i iu".'csj;irily s Ir.iVf net SliUllV. v/ 2G.) - ^^^^'' joaicliPi'i niul even si'izcd Hritisli vcsscjs hi ni'liiiiig's Sea oiiUidc tlio ^-inilo limit (Vom tlip nciiri'>'t liiiid: llint allhout;!) no offlci il roiifir'-.iiitioi) of tlu-sc nniDurs Imd reacliccl Hui Xliiji'sly's (loveimiii III, liicrt' did iiit aiipear fi> lu- iitiy reason to dmilit tlicir aiillicntiriU. Your F.ordslii|) dcxin-d ino at tii(! siinc liiiic to in(|iiin' wlu'tlici lliu United Stnics' ('iov(i'inn('i\t wfi'O in |»iissf's>.i(in of siniiiai' iiiliti matioii, and In asU that stiiiii;cnt iiistriiciions HJiiiiild 111' S'l'iit at till- ciiiIirNt nioiiiiMit, wilii t!ic view to prtvc nl llic lioss.hility of Biicli (Kriirioncc-* lakini; iilacf. In spiMkiiii; to Mr. Illiiiiic on tin- uliove sulijoct, your Lordsliip in^trnctcil nn- to remind liini tlial Hir Maji'-ty's (iovcriiini'nt iiiid ivt'i-ivfd la'-t year very uli;ar as-iuraiues (uiiii .Mr. I5iiyiii(l, nt that time Secretary of State, tlint, pendiiii; tiie di-.eussioii of tlie ijcneial t|ueslion>» at iKsiie, no furtIrT intcrfi leiiee sliould take place willi IJritisli vessels in ikliriiij?''^ Sea, and, in eoncin.>ion, to state that Sir ■). I'anneefnte would he |)icpared, on Ins rctuni to \Vusliinf;toti in the lUtiinin, to di-enss the whole (jiiestion, addiun' tl'at ller .\liiie>tv"s (lovcrnnieiit wished to point out that a settlement could not hut he hindered by iiieasiiris of force on the part of the United States. I aecorditifily lelt iit once for Bar I lai hour ^M, line), where Mr. IJlaine Ims hecn passing the buminer. and on tlie nioiniii,^ of liie 'Jtth instant I called on him, and made a coin- niiiiiieation to him in the ahove sense. Mr. IJlaine at oiue asUtd mo to addie-s to him a note eontainini; the suhsfaticc of vdur Lordship's insfruelions. lie said lliiit he was unahle to f^ive u reply until ho had consulted with the President, l)ut he |)roinised that I shonUI receive one to the note I was to aildress to him nt a very curly date. .Ml that hi' could say to me then was that similar rumours hid leaelied the Unite! States' (jovernment, which were prohahly aut'untic, idlhouj^h no otiicial eoiilinnation had iR'cn fiivcn to them, and he could say to me, in further ifply to my communication, that lie wa^- of opinion that there was little divergence in the views of the two Governments on llii.' points at issue. On the termination of my interview with Mr. I'jlaine, I dispatched to voir Ltird- shi|) a telegram intormini!; you of '.hat had taken place, and then, in accordance with .Mr. lilaine's rcipicst, 1 addressed to him ti note, a co[)y of whieli I have the honour to indosi'. In the afternoon of the same day I met Mr. IJIainc, and he told me tint he had i.ikliesscd a letter to me containin;; the rejily he had made to me carlim' in the day. I had till' honour to forward to your Lordship by telci^raph the substance of this reply, a copy of which is herewith inclosed. Tiiis reply, as your Lordship will see, eommcnecs by sayiiij.^that rumours of the seirch ^11(1 sii/ure of Hritish vessels in Belirin;;'s S.'u by United States' criii/er.s have reached the Uiiiud States' Government, and that althouuh no nflicialcoiitirmation ul thoie ruinour.s has hceii received by them, they appear to he based on truth. ;\lr. IJlaine then .ttoes on to say that it has been and is the earnest desire of the I'lcsideiit of the United States to have such an adjustment m shall remove all jiossilde ;;r(nui(l of tnisunderstandini,' with ller Maji sty's Government conccrnin'j; the e.\i.-.tin!5 lioiibles in the Bebring's Sea, and that the I're.-ideiit believes that the respon.ibility for ctliiv in that adjustment cannot he ])roperlv cliarti,ed to the Government of the United j^iaies, and he begs me to express to your LorJship the irratiliealinn with which ihc Government of the United Slates bears that Sir J. I'auneeiote will be prepared on his riuirn to Washinurton in the autumn to discuss the whole question. .Mr, Blaine concKides his letter by sayini; that he has pleasure in assuring inc that tlic Government of the United States will endeavour to be prei)areil for the di.scussioii, and tliiit, in the ojiinion of the President, the points at issue between the two Governmeiits are cupalile of prompt adjustment on a basis entirely honourable to both. 1 aeknowleilged Mr. Blaine's letter in a note, a copy of wiiich is hcrcwilh inclosed \hicU;sure No. 3), informing him that I should lose no lime in bringing his reply to iho know ledge of LJer Majesty's Government, who, while awaiting an answer to the other imiuiries I had the honour to make to hnn, would, I felt oonddent, receive with much sutialaclion the assurances which he liad been good enough to oiler to me. I have, &c. !; • ^ « %. m (Signed) H. G. EDWARDES. 20, 1881). o tele,i^r;mb l cd ruinoiiis j ive stoppi'il Inclbsure 1 in No. 214. Mr. Edwardes to Mr. Blaine Sir, Bar Harbour, Aucjmt 21, 188!>, IN accordance with instructions wliicli I liave received from Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign AfTiiirs, I have tiie honour to state to you that repeated rumours iia"e of late readied Her Majesty's Government that United States' cruizers have stopped, scarclied, and even seized British vessels in Behring's Sea outside the 3-nii!e limit from the nearest land. Althoui^ii no oflBcial confirmation of these rumours has icnclied Her Majesty's Government, thi^e appears to be no reason to doubt their authenticity. I am desired hy the Marquis of Salisbury to in(|uiie whether the United States' Government are in possession of similar information, and further to ask that stringent instruclioiis may !)■■ sent by the United States' Government at the earliest moment to their oHiccrs, with tlip view to prevent the possibility of such occurrences taking place. In continuation of my instructions, I have the lionour to remind you that I ler Majesty's Government received very clear assurances last year from Mr. Bayard, tiicn Secretary of State, that pending t!ie discussion ot the general questions at issue, no furtlier nterference sliould take place with Rritisli vessels in Behring's Sea. In conclusion, the Marquis of Salisbury desires me to say that Sir Julian Pauneefote, Her Majesty's Minister, will be prepared, on his return to Washington in the autumn, to discuss the whole (|ucstion, and Mer Majesty's Government wisii to point out to tbo United States' Government that a settlement cannot but be hindered by any means of force which may be resorted to by the United States' Government. I have, &c. (Signed) H. G. E!)WAIlDi:S. Inclosure 2 in No. 214. Mr. Blaine to Mr, Edwardes. •fii <h' M Sir, Bar Harbour, Maine, Amjusl 21, 188!). I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of this diite, conveyiiuv to me the intelligence "that repeated rumours have of late reached Her Majesty's Govern- ment that the United States' cruizers have slo|)ped, searched, and even seized British vessels in Behring's Sea outside the 3-mile limit from the nearest land." And you add that, "altliou;;h no otHcial confi.mation of these rumours has reached Her Majesty's Govermnent, there ajipears to be no reason to doubt their authenticity." In reply, [ have the honour to state that the same rumours, probably based on truth, have reached the Government of the United States, but that up to this date there Ims been no oHicial communication received on the subject. It has been, and is, the earnest desire of the President of the United States to have such an adjustment as shall remove all possible ground of misunderstanding with Ilcr Majesty's Government concerning the existing trouoles in Behring's Sea, and the Presidcr(t believes that the responsibility for dehiv in that adjustment cannot be pro|)eily charged to the Government of the United States. I beg you will express to the Marquis of Salisbury the gratification with which the Government of the United States learns that Sir J. Pauncefote, Her Majesty's Minister, will be prej.ared, on his return to Washington in the autumn, t;) discuss the whole question. It j/ives me pleasure to assiu'o you that the (Jovernment of tiie United Stales will endeavour to bo prepai d (or the discussion, and that, in the opinion of the President, the points at issue between the two Governments are capable of prompt adjuslmcnt on a 'lasis entirely honourable to both. I have, &c. • ' • • (Signed) J. G. BEAIN'K. .'cvenue-cuti •jovernment 303 Inclosure 3 in No. 214. Mr. Edwardes to Mr, Blaine. Sir, Bar Harbour, August 2o. 1889. I HAD the honour to receive yesterday your note, in which you have betn good enough to inform uie, with respect to the repeuted rumours which have of late reached Her Majesty's (joverntnent of the search and seizure of British vessels in Beliring's Sea by United States' cruizers, that the same rumours, probably based on truth, have reached 'he United States' Government, but that up to this date there has been no otticiai communi- cation received on the subject. At the same time, you have done me the honour to inform ine that it has been, and is, the earnest desire of the President of the United States to have such an adjustment as shall remove all possible groiiid of misunderstanding with Her Majesty's Government concerning the existing troubles in Behring's Sea, and that the Piesiuent believes that the responsibility for delay in that adjustment cannot be properly charged to the Government of the United States You request me at the same time to express to the Marquis of Salisbury the gratifi- cation with which the Government of the United States learns that Sir J. Pauneefote, Her Majesty's Minister, will be prepared, on his return to Washington in the autumn, to discuss the whole question, and you are good ^enough to inform me of the pleasure you have in assuring me that the Government of the United States will endervour to he prepared for the discussion, and that, in the opinion ot the President, the points at issue between the two Goverinncnts are capable of prompt adjustment on a basis entirely honourable to both. I shall lose no time in bringing your reply to the knowledge of Her Majesty's Govern- ment, who, while awaiting an answer to the other inquiries I have had the honour to make to you, will, I feel confident, receive with much satisfaction the assurances which yon liave been good enough to make to me in your note of yesterday's date. I have, &c. (Si-ned) il. G. EDWARDES. No. 216. Coloniid Office to Foreitjn Office. — {Received Awjust 29.) Sii', Downing Street, August 20, 1889. I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Maiquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, with a Report of the Conimilteo of Privy Council of the Dominion, with telegrams from Mr. Maker and the Collector of Customs at Victoria, respectiig the seizure of the " Black Diamond'' and the "Triumph" by the United Suites' Rc.-eiiuc-cutter " Richard Rush." I am to request to be iniormed v.hat auower Lord Salisbury would propose should be returned to this despatch. I am, &c. (Signed) EDWARD WINGFIELD. I n- I ^'1 ■1 i Inclosurc 1 in E"o. 215. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Citadel, Quebec, August 9, 1889. I HAVE the honour to transmit to your Lordship a copy of an approved Report of a Committee of the Privy Council, submitting telegrams dated tho 30th ultimo, from E. C. Baker, Esq., M.P., and the Collector of Customs at Victoria, British Columbia, with reference to the seizure in Behring's Sea, 70 miles from land, of the British sealing- schooner " Black Diamond," with her cargo of sealskins, and to the searching in these waters, in the same locality, of the British schooner " Triumph," by the United States' !*ovenuc-cutter "Richard Rush," and requesting that the Pttcntion of Her Majesty's (iovernment be invited thereto, with the earnest hope that an early assurance will be given m 304 tliat British subjects peacofully pursuing tlicir lawlul occupations on the iiigh stas will [,(. protected. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PIllvSTON. Inclosurc 2 in No. 215. Report of a Commiltee of the Honourahle the Privy Council, approved by his ExceUcncij the. Governor-Genrrnl in Council, Aiujust 2, IH89. ON a Report, dated the Slst July, 188P, from the Minister of Marine and FislHiics, submitting telegrams Hated the 30th ultimo, from E. C. Baker, Esq., M.P., and tiie Collector of Customs at Victoria, British Columbia, with reference to the seizure in the Behriiig's Sea, 70 miles from land, of the British scaling-schooner " Black Diamond," witli her cargo of sealskins, and to the searcliing in these waters, in the same locality, of the British schooner " Trium>>h," by the United Slates' Revenue-cutter "Richard Rusii," the Master of the "'I'riumpii" being informed that immunity from the seizure of his -'csscl was due solely to the fact that .she had no sealskins on board. The Minister represents that four years have elapsed since the seizure of Britisli sealing-vcsscls was commenced by the United States' authorities in the Behring's Sea, and tlie strong representations of Her Majesty's Ministers to the United States have only resulted in a continuance of the policy, and a declaration that sucli policy will l)e systematically pursued. Tiic Committee advise that copies of the annexed telegrams be transmitted fi. ■;' Right Honourable the Secretaiy of State for the Colonics, with the request tlir.i; attention of Her Majesty's Government be invited thereto, and with the earnest hope tlui: an early assurance will be given that British subjects peacefully pursui. g tlieir huvful occupations on the high seas will be protected. All of which is respectfully submitted for approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGliK, Cierk, Privy Council. Inclosurc .'i in No. 216. Mr. Crow linker to the Minister ot' Marine unci Fi,shcrie.s', Ottawn. [See Inclosuro 2 in No. 211.] Inclosurc 4 iu No. 21."». Mr. Hamblii In the Hon. yf. Howell. (Tclegrapiiie.) .^CllOlJNKK "Triumph" senrchcd by otlictr of United States' Kevouue-cuttLr the 11th .July i'l nduing's Sea. No ^■kills. \'csscl released. Olficer told 1\ [aster thai eaine (lay " Pliiek Diamond," having skins, was seized. Both vessels 70 miles from land. U/iiee;' said i;i(lers \vi.ro lo seize cverv vessel, British or American, with skins on board. 4 No. 210. Colonial Office to Foreign Of/ic". — {Received September 2.) Sir, Downing Street, September 2, 18^!). I AM directed by Lord Knutiford to ti-uismit to yuu, for the inCo.'matiun of the Mar(|uis of Salisbury, a copy of a telegram which has been sent to the Gc/.'eruor-Genci'al of Canada respecting the Behring's Sea difticultics. 1 am, &c. (Signed) .[OHN Bl{..„i,3rON. 80fi ^ IncIoBure in No. 216, Lord Knutsford to Lord Stanley of Pre»ton. (Telegrapliic.) Downing Street, Augu.st 31, 1889. SEIZURKS of British vessels iu Beliriiig's Sea. Her Majesty's Charge d'Affaircs at Washington reports United State.<>' Government have no infommtion beyond what we have. Mr. Blaine asked that the substance of Lord Salisbury's instructions rnig;ht he embodied in a iintc, and promised early reply. He said it was necessary first to consult President. He apprchonded no serious divergence between two Governments, and expressed liis own very sincere desire lor a joint settlement of Fisheries and Hehring'a Sea questions, iuul dwelt on very friendly feelinf^s of President Harrison's Administration. In a further telegram substance of Mr. Blaine's letter is given, saying that the same rumours, probal>lv authentic, liud reached his Government, but have not been confirmed ofTicially. The letter expresses tb.e earnest desire of the President for an adjustment removing all possible grouiid foe misunderstanding concerning the troubles in IJehring's Sea, and satisfaction at learning that Sir J. Pauncelote will discuss ijuestion on his return. United States' Government will |)repare for discussion, and President thinks points a( issue are ca))able of prompt ac^justment on basis honourable to both Governments. A third telegram states that Mr. RIaine had promised a very early reply whether instructions would be sent \o Alaska in oii'nr to prevent possible recurrence qf such incidents. I No. 217. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, September 2, 1889. I HAVE laid before the Marquis of Salisbury your letter of the 29th ultimo, forwarding a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada and a Report of the Committee of the Canadiaii Privy Council on the action of the United States' Revenue- cutter "Richard Rush" in seizing the British sealing- vessel "Black Dia nond," and searching another vessel, the "Triumph," in the waters of Behring's Sea. In reply to your inquiry as to the answer to be returned to this despatch, I am directed by his Lordship to suggest that Lord Stanley should be informed that Her Majesty's Government are in communication with that of the United States with the object of procuring instructions which will ))rcvent any further seizures. I am, at the same time, to request that you will point out to Secretary Lord Knutsford that as yii, iio authentic and detailed in'brmation has reached this Department as to the circunisti'iN'CH attending the seizure and s^earohing of these or other British vessels by the United : ri\';e<' ; ntliorities during the present fishing season. I am, &i;. (Signed) T. H. SANDERSON. No. 218. Cohninl Office to Foreign Office. — {Received Septe nber 3.) Sir, Downing Street, September 3, 1889. WITH reference to previous correrpondence, and particularly to the letter from this Department of the 2!)th ultimo, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to he laid before the Marquis o( Salisbury, a copy of a further despatch from the Govt ; '..^r-General of Canada, containing with other inelosures a cutting froin ft local I ncv pyi((! raspeetinu; the searching of the "Triumph," and a telegram from theColleotor of Cubt.'.t ' '/ I'-ina in connection with the arrival of the "Black Diamond" at that port. It. o re(|U^>st that the inelosures to Lord Stanley's despatch may be returned to I this Department when done with. I am, &c. (Signed) EDWARD WINGFIELD. " ■ 1. )' ' urn fl28| 9 It If i;:,; .100 IncloHure 1 in No. 218. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knulsford. My Jjon\, Citadel, Quebec, Auijust 15, ]SS!). WITH rcferenco to my ilcspatcli ot'tlie 9tli instant, 1 iiavo the honour to transmit to your LonKship a copy d an approved Minute of tiie Privy Council, submitting a cojiy of 11 despatch from tlie Liciitci'aiit-CJovernor of Hiitish Cohmibia, t()i;ether with a cutiini,' from the "Colonist" contiiiniu}; Captain McLean's statement of the circumstances uiub which iiis vessel, the "Triumph," was searched, and also a copy of a telegram from the Collector of Customs at Victoria, giving information as to tlie arrival of the seized schooner " Black Diamond " at that pun. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosure 2 in No. 21H. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Hxcellency tk Govern or- General in Council, on the llth August, 1889. *" Hincil have had under consideration a despatch, dated the wioutenant-CJovernor of British Columbia, respcctina; tlic THE Commit; SOth July. 1889, trc seizure of the British sc. r " Black Diamond" by the United States' cutter " Ricimrd Rush," 70 miles from huul, and transmitting a cutting from the "Celoiiist," a British Columbia ne\vspa|)er, containing Captain McLean's statement of the circumstances under whici) his vessel, the "'I'riumph," was searched, and also a telegram from the C'ollcctorol Customs at Victoria, giving information as to the arrival of the seized schooner " Black Diamond " at X'ictoria. The Committee advise that copies ot these eomnmnications be transmitted to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, lor the information of Her Majesty's Covernmenf. All which is respectfully submitted for approval. (S-ncd) .lOllN .). M('(iF,K, Clerk, Privy Council. Inclosure ',1 in No. 'J IS. Lieutenant-Governor Nelson to the f<ec'etary of State, Ottawa. Sir, Gnvernmenl House, Victoria, July ^0, 1889. I HAVK the honour to inform you that Captain MclA'aii, of the sealing-schooner "Triumph," just arrived froni Beliring's Sea, has brought news of the seizure of the British schooner " Black Diamond " by the United States' eruizer " Rush" for sealing in that sen. I inclose cutting taken from the " Colonist" newspaper, giving an account Captain McLean's statement. I have, &e. (Signed) HUGH NtLSON. of Inclosure 4 in No. 218. if !S Extract from the " Colonist." The Skaling-schoonkr "Black Diamond" si:izi;u iiv niK Revenue-outtku " Rush," and dispatcukd to Sitka. — Sunday evening considerable excitement was caused in the city, more especially in eonimeicial circles, when it I)ecame known thnt the sealing-schooner "Triunioli " had arrived in harbour, bringing with her the news of I the capture of the .•schooner " Black Diamond," and her own narrow escape from the same fate. The paiticulars of the case are as follows : — At about 6 o'clock on the evening of the llth July a steamer was sighted from the deck of tbo "Tiinnipli," and Cajjtain .McLean at once concluded that the vessel was a United Stales' cutter, either the " Bear " or the " Rush." The exact locality of his schooner at thu time Captuiii Mclean did tiot. know, hut, us nearly as he could judge, he was 100 miles to the westward oi' St. {icorj,'e's Islands.in Bcluing's Sea. The Htcamer followed in his wnKo for two honra, and at dusk came alongside and ordered hirn to heave to. He at [?1 oheyed the order, and a boat's crew, with the (Jhicf Officer of the " Rush " (Mr. Tuttic), boarded her. The captain stood at the gangway, and asked the officer his reasons for boarding the schooner. 'PIk; answer was the orodiiction of written orders authorizing " the capture of any vcbscIs illegally scaling in liehring's Sea." He then asked to bo allowed to search the ship, and on permission being accorded him he spent over lialf-an-hour with his men in overhauling the vcsuel. No find rewarded his scorch, however, tlie whole of the skins aboard having been dexterously hidden in time to avoid detection. When the seorcli was concluded the officer turned to Captain McLean, and, after expressing his pleasure at not being under necessity to seize his vessel, informed him that a few hours before, the " Rush " liud come up ' ith and boarded the schooner " Black Diamond." He had found aboard her 104 sealskins, and on discovering these had put the second officer in churgi!, and dispatched the captured sealer to Sitka. 1 Ic also stated that it was the intention of his C-'ommandcr to capture every vessel illegally scaling in Bcbring's Sea, and send them to American ports in charge of American officers. He then ordered his crew to return to the " Rush," and, as soon as they were aboard tlie steamer, headed full speed away to the west. At the time of boarding, the "'rriinnph" had aboard her aiiout 'iOO skins. The " Black Diamond " is owned by Messrs. (Juttman and hVank, of this city. Yesterday morning, when the facts of the ease became generally known. Captain Cox, Mr. H. Saunders, and .Mr. \V, iVIunsio formed tiiemselves inio a deputation, and decided to leave for Esquimalt. iniincdiately, and interview the captain o( the " Champion " on the subject. Commander Sinclair received the deputation very courteously, and, on learning the object of their visit, ordered his secretary to take down all the statements made. The focts of the caso\ver(! then put before him, and the visitors protested against the menace to the sealing industry by the acts of the United States' Revenue-cutter. It was represented that unt of lil'tx-five sealing-sehooners that, have entered Behring's Sea this season twenty-four belong to Victoria, and that if the acts of the American Government were not speedily |)ut a stop to, the sealing industry of Victoria would be ruined. All the members of the deputation signed the statement, and Commander Sinclair told them that, although ho could do nothing himself, he would lay everything before the Admiral as soon as he joined the fleet. He finther advised them to collect all other available inlbrmation on the subjiet and dispatch it to Admiral lleneage by the steam-ship " Sardonyx," which sails on Thursday next (or Port Simpson. On arrival in the city the dei)utation was joined by Mr. Richard Hall and Captain Grant. Senator Macdonald, of Toronto, was then interviewed at the Drinrd, and at once threw himself into the subject, going with the deputation to Mr. E. Crow Baker, M. P., and the Honourable Mi'. r<obson, I'roviiieial Secretary. A telegram containing the wholeof the facts was dis|)at'.he(l to the Honourable the .Minister of Marine and Fisheries at Ottawa by Senator Ma(;doiial(l, and it is expected that an answer will be received in time for it to be dispatched to the Admiral by the "Sardonyx." The Honomable Mr. Robson also dispatched a separate telegram lo the Minister of Marine on the same subject M: i^ Inclosure .O in No. 218. Tcle(jrn>i' from Vicioria, B.C., to Mr. Howell, Mininter of Custoinn, Ottawa. ONE man from Revenue-cutler jjkiced on board " Black Diamond," with orders to take her to Sitka. Vessel's master and crew remained on board, and brought her straight to Victoria. Vessel's papers, clearance, coasting licence, and certificate of registrary, also salted skins, taken from her by officer of Revenue-cutter. No. 219. Admiralty to Foreign Office. — {Received September 6.) Sir, Admiralty, Septemuer 4i, 1889. I AM commanded by my Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty to transmit herewith, for the information of the Secretary of State, copy of a letter from the Captain of [128] 2 R 2 308 Her Mnjcsty's Nhip •'( ivunpioi'," dHtpd the MOth July Inst, wiMi copy of itH inclomirc, fC8|»uo»liig flic rn|»Hiio lit' an Kn^lish sciilin^.scliooncr l>y ii United Stutos' cruizcr in the Bonring'8 Son. I urn, fltc. (Signed) K. D. AWORY. fiic1os\n'o 1 in No. 2ltK Cniilnin St, Vlair to Hi'iir-Admirnl ttenpngf. Slv, " Clitmpion," (it K.»t;w»ni«/f, Jnly 80, 1H89. \ !1 WK till' hononv to report, tor your intormiition. tliiit tluHnp; tlu! foirnoon of the 2tttli instant !i di-pntntion ol i)wnci>i ot MOiiling'Si-hooiit'ii* o«mi' on bonrtJ this tihip at Bwjiiininlt to report llint nii r,ni;lish Mioonrr iind been cnptured in the Hchring's Sen hyi United Stntos' crnizcr. A eo|)y ufllit'ir stntenieiit is iittached. 1 intorniod them that 1 would submit tlicir stntcineiit to you on my arrival at Port Simpson. I bnve, Sic. (Si.-rned) A. F. ST. CI. A I It. Inclosure '2 in No. '2\\). 8talrinrnt mode by Owners of SeaUnyiSvliooiiris at Victoriu, ii.C. THK Kndish s.liooner "'IViuinph," Captain McLean, urrivcd at Victoria last evening ('28th •nily) from IU!hrin^''s Seas, and reported llmt she was boarded in these sens on the 11 til instant at 8 I'.M. by the American steamer " Uusli," Lieutemmt-Comniaiulcr Shepherd, i't lon,uilu<ie 170" west, and 7(' miles off tiie shore. The Commamlir of the "Hush" searclicd tiie vessel and found no seals on boarJ. He ordered lier illie " Triumph") out of the seas, ;uid said if slio was found there n;^iiin She would be taken mis luor to OunaiasUa. Lieutenant ^henherd, of the " llush,"' also had informed Captain McLean that he hud that day seizini the knglish schooner " Black Diamond," and his instructions were to smv all vessels found in these see A prize crew had been put on board the " Black Diamond," and the vessel sent to Ounalaska. ^(Signed) .JOHN (iUAllAM, Owner of Schooner '■' Stipphiie." WILLM. MIMSIL, Owner of Schoonern " Viva,'" " Pttthjinder" and " Man/ Taylor." 11. SAUNDERis, Owner of Schooner " Ourel." "Champion," at Esquimau, July '2ii, \SS'X No. 220. The Marquis of Salisbury to Mr, Edimrdei>, Sir, Foreign Office, September 9, 1880. I HANK to express to yon my n^iprovnl of your proeeedinga, as reported in your despatch of the 26th August last, with reference to the representations you wcri' instructed to make to the United States' Secretary of State in regard to the seizures of | British vessels in the waters of Behring's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 221. Foreiijn Office to Colon iiil Offirr. gir, I'hri'iyn Office, Srptrmhn- •), 188<), WITH rofcmiici) to your letter of tliu 3rd iiiBtiiiit, I aiii direeted hy tlie Marquin of Sulislmry to rc(|UCHt t.liut you will move the Secretary of State lor tiie (/'(ilonies to enusc u telegram to lie sent to the (iovwrior-dleiiernl of (Juuada, re(|»eHtiug liin Mxeellcncy to fiirnisli Her MajeBty'H (jiovcrtuncitt with iniiuediate inioriiiatioti il any further Htoppage of vcHselH ill Ueliring'H Sen (ake« ))iac(!. I am, ^c. ** (Hi^nod) r. II. SANDICIIHON. No. 222. Colonial Office to Forru/n Office, — {Received Septeniher 10.) Sir, Dnwnini/ Street, HeptemUer 10, 1889. WITH refcrenee to previoiiH correspondenee r('H|»eetinp; tlio seizure of Canadian sealers in Heliriiig'« Sen, I am directed hy l^)rd Kruitslord to tranwiiiit to yon, for coiiimunieation to tlic MnrquiH of Salishury, a copy of a despateli from the Governor- General of the Dominion, with its inclosures, on the suhject. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMS1X)N. Inclosure I in No. 222. Lortt Slnnleij of Preston In Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Citud,i Qiiehrc, Auijnst 'H\, 1889. Wri'li leCerenee to previous correspoudinee rc9|)cetitiK tjic sei/.uio of the " Black Diamond " and the detention of the " Triuuipli " in l$ehrin;;'s .Sea, I have the honour to forward herewith a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council, Bubuiittiiit^ f()[)ie.s of the instructions pjiveii to the »p*;cial oIKccr pjaecul on board the " Black Diamond ' l>y the Captain of the United States' Itcvenue-eutter " Kuwh," and ol a letter Iniiii lhe(!ollector of Ciistoms at Vietoria, together with the; atfidavits of the masters of the two vessela. I have, ki:. (Signed) STANLEY OF PlHi.STON. Inclosure 2 in No. 222. ]\f\tort of II Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by kin EticeUency the (lOvernor-Genernl in Council, on I lie 22nd Augiwt, 1889. ON a Report dated the 13th August, 1889, ironi the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, subinStting, in reference to the seizure in the Behring's Sea of the schooner " lilaek Diamond " and the boarding of the schooner " 'IViunipli," the original iii.structions ijiven to the special odicer placed by the Captain of the United State:.' I'evenue-cutter "Rush "on board the " Blaek Diamond " ii( tlie time of tin; hitter's seizure, and also a letter from the Honourable W. Ilamley, Collector of Customs at \'ictoria, British Columbia, top^ether with the following affidavits :— 1. Affidavit of Owen Thomas, of Vietoria, liiitish Columbia, master of the British scaling schooner " Black Diamond." 2. AlHdavit of Daniel McLean, of Victoria, British Columbia, master of the British sealiiig seliooner " Triumph." The Minister recommends that cupii;.> (if Un: iiuiu .ire? herewith be immediately forwarded, for the information of Her Majesty's Government. The Committee concurring advise tnat your Excel1enc7 be moved to forward this 4 810 Miimtr, lopTtliPi' with ('(ipii'M 111 (III' int'lcMin s. ((I llir lllglit lloiKiiiiiililr llif Si'n't'lmv (i| StiUo lor Hin Coloiiii's. All nlwliit'li JH i'c<N|M>*<lliilly KultiMitl(<il. (Wimici) JOHN .1. M((ii:K, i'lvrk, I'rini ('(itinril l!|i M Inrlimiil'ii 'l In No. 'i'2'i, (Vf;»^l»n Shrimril U> Mr. Ilouhiiiinii. llnitfiU Slalrn' lii'Vfiiitfiili'anirr " Hush," hvliiiuii'i Sni, ImI. M" %>. <V.. /.OH./. 1 70" ''^'•' "'•. Sir. ./h/v II, IHH!). \'(U'iiir lioroby n|i|i(>ii\(cil ii H|i(Hniil olluu'i', and «lii»'('N'il Id |iioco('tl (in liornii Ihc MoluioiH'i' " MliirU Diiinionil." id' Vlrloiiu, llritiuli fNilninltiii, HiIm iliiy Hri/.cd (or viitlididii of l.nw, Nrctinn JlIKi McviMCil Sltilnlc-M of llin Uiiitrd ShilrH, luid iiHHiinii^ (Illume nl' Hiiid voNKol, Iht ollii'oiH utid oivw, l\v»'i\ty-llv«' in nniidior, all told, «'»ctM>tinn ilic niivl^fiiliiiii nl Utc vi'sHcl, whii'li In nHcrviMJ lo ('ii|il»iii Owen 'riunniiH, anil wliicli yon will not inlcrlWc with nnloHM you Iti'conn" coiwiucod lluil lie Ih iiioci'cdinn ♦" Non\t' oIIht (liiin yonr |»iil »( dostinalion, n\ wlmli ivi-nl you iiiv i.nlliori/cd lo aHKinnc I'nll <'liuru;»' ol' llio vcwl, Kvcrytliiii!-: Itiiii): in iiMdincHH, you will dirrcl Ciipliiin Owjmi 'I'Iminiiii lo niKkc llir insl nl his way In SilKa. ,\l;i>ilu». and upon arrival al llial. |iorl yon will ri'|i(irl in |iriHiiii lo tin Uniloil Sdid's" Disdicl Aldnni-y Tor llio diMlrii!! ol" Alaska, and dt'liviT lo him tlu' Iclln ho addit'NNod, tlu< scliooiu'i' " niiicK hiaiuoud." ot N'irtoiia, liriliHli Coluudiia, hrr ouliil.iinil tho juTnons of Cnnt.iin Owen 'rhonuiH and Mate Aloxandi'i (Jalli, and m'I Ikt crcwnt lihovly, AOoi" Itoiii;; itIicmmI ol lln' nro|u'r(y and |tci'N(inH intrnslod (o your care, yim will nwail at Sitka iju- arrival ol llir " HuHh." I have, lite. (SiKiu'il) r.. (;. SIIKPAHI), Inclosuro '1 in N«>. '2'2'2. Mr. Hiimlrii to Ihr Vii.ttom.i, Qiiclwr. Sir, Vr.-<lom'liiiii.ir, I'icfurin, Aiiijii.il .'). ISKQ. I KOUWAKD hoivwitli. in orininal, llio orders ni\(>n hy ('ii|iluin .^lirpard, nf the United Statos' Kovonuo-iutlr" "Hush," to J. Ilankanson, Hpirial olliu-r. to proi'iiMlon hoard the Untish sclioouiM- " Hliu'k Diamond," Hcizcd in lU'lirinK's Sen, and to take her In v^itka. The master ot the sehooiur reports to mo that the liulians cuiployed as luniliMsiii the sehooner wotdd, ln> believes, have murdered llankanson if an attempt Imd lieen iiinilf I to fake her to Sitka. The master ,u^)t out ol' the sea and sailed at oia-e for Victiiiiii, without ai\y opposition on the part of llankanson, and 1 think it is very prolmhle lliiil llii' onlers given him privately hy the Captain of the " llusii " were not to interfere in any wa> with the destination of the vessel, lie arrived hc>re on .Sitnrday eveiiinj,', llic 3rd Aui;ust ; the olijeet ol the Ueveime-entler was no douht attained in takinu; her skins, ritic, and liulian spears away, and sondinu; the vessel out of IJehring's Sea. I lor ecrlili- cat« of registry was .dso taken away. Shall 1 give her a fresh ccrtitieate ? 1 have, &c. (Signed) W. IIAMLEY. Inelosure 5 in No. li'i'i. In the Matter of the Seizure of the Sealing-schooner "Jiluek Diamond" by the United States' Revenuc-euftcr " Richard Uiish," on the Uth day of July, 1889. Deposition of Owen Thomas, I, OWEN THOMAS, of the city of Victoria, British Columbia, master mariner, do| solemnly and sinccrel* declare that — 1. 1 am a master mariner, and was at the time of the occurrences hereinafter men-l an lionnl mill mIIII run Mii< iiiiiiitcr (ifllin nuIkkmmm' " lllitcit Diiiinond," of tlin port, (if Virlorlfii llrillMi Coliiinlild. 'J., On III)' I I til iliiy III 'nly, a.h. IHHO, wIiIInI. I w/m mi Imnnl itml in rdinniiind of till' Kitiil hcImmhici', itnil hIic licjiif; llirii on it Hiiiliii^ i'X|ii>(liliiin, iiiiil liiiiii!<; in liit.ilinti: '.AT 'I'i' iiiirlli iinil idn^itiiiln 17*)" VSr*' wcJ, unil iil. a rliHlunri^ ol ulmul. '15 inilcN from liinil, Mo lliiili'il Sttili'N' lli'vrniir'i'iilti'r " Kii'liiii'il llniili " ovi'I'IiiihIi''I IIic hiiIiI HclMioncr, iiml, ImviriK linili'il lirr liy HlMinliii>% u riiiniiiiiiiil wlm li I lonlil nol iIIhIiik Uv lii-iir, Hl.riiiiiril nrnmi tlin linwH ol III!' Kiiiil Ni'hoMMi'i', roiii|iitlliiii.', her In conic lo. A liiiiil wm llicn lowered from Um miiil ciillci', mill liictilciiiml. 'rnlllciinij live oilier men liom tlic (Inil.oil Hliitcn' vcmhcI cume iiliiiiit'il llic Miiiil Mclioiiiier. I iihIumI llie l/ii'iil'iifiiil, wliiil, li«i wiint'il, nnil on IiIh ul.utiri^ hr wIhIiimI lo nee llic Hlii|i'H |iii|ier)t, I looK liiiii rjowii In mv eiiliiii iiii<l hIiiiwciI tlicinto liiin. lid (hen eoininuiiileil me to liiiml llic |iii{ieiH over In Inm. 'I'Iim I leluMcd l.o do, und locked llieni up in my loeher. At. tliiN lime there were I'll MeiilHhiim iihoiird the Ntdiooner, 7tl ol wliich liitd liei.'ii milted, and AA ol wliieli were iiii'iiill' d, iind liieiil.eiiiint 'riitlle ordered IiIh men to liriiiK up the hMiih. mid to talu' the Nulled oiicm on hoard the " Hichiird Kmdi." 'I'hn entter'H mmi niciiiiliii<.Oy triiiiNl<<rred all of tlii< Hiilled Mliiii'i from my Hcliooniir U> \hn " Ki'liiird Kiinli," iinil mIho (iKik iihoard the <Millcr two HtieltH of nail and a rille hidon^iiij; t,o the Rchoom.T. Iiiciili'iiiinl 'I'lillle then ii/i;niii ileiiiimded me In ^ive np t.lie nhip'n papern, atirj told mo that, il' I would not t'lv'' IIk'iii ii|i he would liikc liiein hy loree. I\n I Htill derilined t.o part wilii lliem he MiKiinlled In the eiittcr, and ii hoiil (;iiin(i oil' with the Maiter-at-Arnm, wli«» Millie iiii hoiird the Kchiioiier. I.ieiileiiiint 'riilllc a»iked me lor the kcyM of i he locker ho lliiil he miirlil uet the {iii|icn4 out, and iipnn my lefimin;^ lo i^ive them to him he ordered till! Mimtei'-iil-Armn lo iinie open llie lipekrr. 'I'lie Vlaitcr-at-Arfn» then lumcrewcd t.lio liiiif^rw ol I he loeker, look out the Kliip'rt piipers, iiini iiandeil tli'io to fJeiitenant Tiitlle, hii'iili'tiiiiil 'i'liMle then ii'liinicil Id the " Kirlnnrl IIiihIi,'' jmiiI c;itiie hacdi to the Hclioitoer ii|{iiiti, hi'iii)tiii|; on liiinrd wilh him one wlume name I have Kiiir;e heard to hr; .I'llni ilawkiiiHon, iind who I lirlii've lo lie ii Qmirliiiii i.ler of the " Rieh;irfl Kimli." I,icil« l«iiiiiit 'I'liltlr I lien told III'' lo ltik< the yrliooiier In Sitka. I loM him that f hIioiiM not go iiiilcHH lie pill, II crew nn li' iiril lo l;il'.(' the Hcliooiiirr llicre. lie y;'>ve Hawkiimoii (lilcdioieHo lake i|ic'lii|) In Silkii, mid (<ave him I'-tlerfi to j^ive to the IJnitfvl StaUin' nutliorilicH on nrrivai. I.iciiliii;iiil 'riillle, hellire leaving my Mchooner, ordered twiinty fndian ^pear;* whifdi wcir filioa li Cor sealin;^ piirpowcM to lie taken on to I ho " Kiehard Hiinh " I imkerl t.lif- iji'iilciiaiil lo f',ive me .i receipt lor the pajiers, Hkiir., iVr:., he hiirj taken. Ttii* he ledi-ed III (ill, and he then returned lo the " Kichard RiihIi,'' l.akiriK the wiid Hpearn witii him, and ji'iiviiig the man liawkiiiHoti in charge of the Hchooner. .Shortly aiterwardn the cutter (.kiiincd iiwiiy, without returniiiK tlii! Hliip'n papeiH, HeiiUkinH, and other f^oodn hct'ore- iiii'iitionnd. Alter the (icparluie otthc United StateH* virHsel, I directed my conrw; to Ounalaika, lii)|iiiiK lo meet Willi an ICiif^liHli man-of-war. We arriverl there on th<: l.'(tli day of .July. .My eirw at this time eoimiHled of a mate, Al(;xiinder(iault, two white Hcumeiijdcok hands, ami a white couli, and twt^iity Indians. 'I'he indiatm, thinkin:.^ we were ;^oin^ to .Sitka, bi'caine innlinoiiH, and told mo the lieHt tiling i eould do to avoid trouhic wah to take the Bchooiier huiiie. 'I'licy also warnitd thu other white men on Itoard that if they thought \ meinit to tiiko tiio nchooner to Sitka, they would throw uh all overboard. There hcinj;! no miin-of-war at Oiinalanka I left there and directed my eourse to Victoria, and arrived at that port at iihout 7 I'.M. on Saturday, the .'ird Aiii.'UHt last, liaving on hoard the said .John Hawkiiison, who, during the cruize to Victoria, had not tried to give me any directions, or made any HUggcotionK ua to tin; courHe to he taken hy the Hchooncr. On arrival at Victoria lliiwkiimon wnn put ashore hy one of my hoats. And I make tliiH Holemn doclara.ioii, c(jnsci(;iitiously lieiievin^^ liie Hame to tx: true, and by virtue of the Oatlm Ordinance, IHOii. Declared at the city of Victoria, Uritiwh Columbia, the 7th day of Auj^uHt, 1880, l>efore me, (Signed) (Signed) Eknkht V. Hoj>well, A I^otary Public for Ihc Provinci; of Jirilinh Columhia. OWEN TIIO.MAS. r 1 :>/ 818 InoloHurc 6 in No. 222. Deposition of Daniel McLean. I, DANIEL MCLEAN, of the city of Victoria, in the province of British Columbia, Dominion of Canada, being duly sworn, depose as follows : — That 1 am master and part-owner of the Dritish schooner "Triumph," registered it the port of Victoria, British •'olumhin; that, in conformity to laws of the Dominion of Canada, I regularly cleared the said schooner " Triumph " for a voyage to the Xjitii Pacific Ocean and Bchring's Sea, and that, in pursuance of my legitimate busmess, did enter the said Beluing's Sea on the 4th day of July, 1889, and did in a peaceful manner proceed on my voyage, and beiuEi; in latitude oft" 05' north, longitude 171" 28' west on the 11th day of July, 188!). At the hour of 8-30 a.m. was hailed by Commander of United States' Revenue-cutter " Richard Hush," the said Revenue-cutter being a vessel belonsjing to the Government of the United Stales and regularly commissioned by the same; a boat having been lowered by officer and crow, I was boarded hy the same, the otficur in charge of the boat being one Lieutenant Tuttle, who demanded the ottioial papers ol mv vessel, and, after reading the same, proceeded to search my vessel for seals, and finding no evidence of the same intbrmed me that orders had been issued by the Secretary of the United States, under i,!^e Proclamation of the President, instructing the Comniaiuiing Officer of the said Revenut-cutter " Rush " to seize all vessels found sealing in Behring's Sea ; he also told me that should he again board me and find sealskins on board, that he would seize and confiscate the vessel and catch ; he furthermore informed me that he had already seized the British schooner " Black Diamond " of Victoria, British Columbia, and that she had been sent to Sitka, and that, therefore, by reason of his threats and menaces, I was caused to forego my legitimate and peaceful voyage on the high seas and return to the port of my departure, causing serious pecuniary loss to myself, crew, a.id owners, for which a claim will be formulated and forwarded in due course. And I make this solemn affidavit, conscientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the Oaths Ordinance, 1869. (Signed) DANIEL McLEAN, Master of Schooner " Triumph," Sworn before me this 8th August, 1889, at Victoria, British Columbia. (Signed) Geo. Morison, J.P., A Justice of the Peace for the Province of British Columbia. No, 223. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received September 12.) Sir, Downing Street, September 10, 1889. IN reply to your letter ol the 9tii instant, I am directed by Loi-d Knutsford to acquaint you, for the information of the Marquis of Salisbury, that the Governor-General of Canada has to-day been requested to send immediate information if any fbrther stoppage of vessels takes place in Behring's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. *^ No. 224. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received September 14.) Sir, Downing Street, September 13, 1889. I AM directed by the Secretary of State for the Colonies to transmit to you, for communication to the Marquis of Salisbury, with reference to previous correspondence, a copy of a telegram from the Governor-General of Canada, containing information in respect of i\\c recent seizures in Behring's Sea, and stating that affidavits were being forwarded. I am, &c. (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. lU ' » IncloBore in No. 224. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutaford. (Telegraphic.) (Beceived September 29, 1889.) SKI ZU RES of British vessels In Rehring's Sea. "Hlack Diamond" seized 11th July; "Minnie," 1 5th July; " Juanita," Slst July ; "Pathfinder," 27th August; "Triumph" warned off, heing threatened with seizure, nth July. Odicial information recently received at Ottawa respecting " Minnie," "Juiuiita," " Puthfinder." Affidavits being forwarded. Seizure of "Lily" reported; alKduvit when received at Ottawa will be forwarded. Seizing officers removed skins, ammunition, arms, and ship's papers. No. 225. Colonial Office to Foreign Office, — {Received September 14.) (ExtractJ) Downing Street, September 13, 1889 WITH reference to your letter of tlie 2nd instant, and to previous correspondence respecting the seizures of Canadian sealers in Bebring's Sea, 1 um directed by Lord Enuts- ford to transmit to you, for communication to the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a telegram which has been sent to the Guvernor<General of the Dominion on the subject. Inclosure in No. 225. Lord Knutsford to Lord Stanley of Preston. (Telegraphic.) Downing Street, September 6, 1889. HER Majesty's Govern'^ent communicating with United States' Government with a viow to preventing further seizures in Rehring's Sea. No authentic and detailed information received as to seizures during the present fishing sensoi). Appeal in case of 1886 seizures might be expedited by motion on meeting of Supreme Court October, but caiie could not be heard till spring. No. 226. Mr. Edwardes to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received by telegraph, September 20.) (Extract.) fVashington, S:ptember \7, 1889. ' ON the llth instant I had the honour to receive your Lordship's telegram informing me that it would be better that I should write privately to Mr. Blaine, saying that Her JMajesty's Government were earnestly expecting an answer to their request that the United States' Government would send to Alaska such instructions as would put a stop to the seizures of British vessels, the reports of which seizures were causing much excitement both in England and Canada. I now have the honour to inclose herewith a copy of the private letter whic's iii accordance with the terms of your Lordship's above telegrams, 1 addressed to Mr. Uii.ne on the 12th instant. ■ ■", ; ' ■* ■ ! i ■-! 'i ! 4 i' ■ i Inclosure in No. 226. ' ■ Mr. Edwardes to Mr. Blaine. (Personal.) My dear Mr. Blaine, - Washington, September 12, 1889. I SHOULD be very much obliged if you would kindly let me know when I may expect an answer to the request of Her Majesty's Government, which I had the honour of communicating to you in my note of the 24th August, that instructions may be sent to Alaska to prevent the possibility of the seizure of British ships in Rehring's Sea. Her Majesty's Government are earnestly awaiting the reply of the United States' Government [128] as 814 on this Ruhjpct, as the recent reports of seizures having tnkcn place arc causini; much excitement both in Knglund and in Canada. I have, &c, (Signed) 11. O. EDVVAIIDKS. No. 227. Mr. Edwardes to the ^f(lrquis of S^nliiburi/. — (Rpceired ^eptpmber 30.) My Lord, Washington, September 19, IHSJI, WITH reference to my despatch of the I7tli instant, I have the honour to inclose herewith to your Lordship o copy of a note which I iiave received from the Secretary of State in reply to my pcrsoTinl luitc of the I'Jth instant, in whicli I in(|uirf(i of him when I might exjiect an arsvier to the request of llcr Majesty's (Jovcrnmeiit that instructions may be sent to Alosiia to prevent tlie possibility of tlie seizure of IJrilish ships in liehring's Sea. Mr. Blaine states that he had supposed tliat liis nott of the 24th August, copy of which was inclosed in my despatch of the 26th August, would sntisfy Her Majesty's Governmcnf that the President was earnestly desirous of coniiui; to u fiiendlv agreement on all matters at ifsue between the two (Jovernments in relation to the Behring's Sea, and that he bad further supposed that my mention to biui that Sir Juliim Paunccfote would be officially instructed to proceed, on his return to Washington, t( a full discussion of the question removed all necessity of a preliminary correspondence touciiing its merits. Mr. lilainc then goes on to say that, with reference more pa' ticuiarly to the (luostion to which 1 had informed him Her Majesty's Government were expecting a reply, a categorical response would have been and still is impiaeticable, unjust to the Uiaicd States' Government, and misleading to Her Majesty's Government, and that it was therefore the judgment of the President that the wiiole (juestion could more wisely be remanded to the formal discussion so near at hand, which Her Majesty's {Government have proposed, am' to which the United States' Ciovernment have cordially assented. 'Ihe Secretary of State concludes by stating that he considers it proper to add t any instruction sent to Heliring's Sea at the time of my original request, namely, lut 24th August, would have failed to reach Iboso waters before the proposed departure of the vessels of the United States. I have, &c. (Signed) H. G. EDWARDES. Inclosure in No. 227. Mr. Blaine to Mr. Edwardes. Sir, Bar Harbour, Maine, September 14, 1889. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your personal note of the 12tli instant, written at Wasliini;ton, in which you desire to know when you may expect an answer to the request of Mer .Majesty's Government " that instructions may be sent to Alaska to prevent the possibility of the seizure ol' Hritish ships in Hehriiig's Sea." I bad >;upposed that my note of the 24th August would satisfy Her Majesty's Government of the President's earnest desire to come to a friendly agreement touching all matters at issue between ibe two Governments in relation to Behring's Sea, and I had further supposed that your ii.enlion of the official instruction to Sir J. Pauncefotc to proceed, immediately alter his arrival in October, to a full discussion of the question removed all necessity of a preliminary correspondence touching its merits. Referring more particularly to the question to which you repeat the desire of your Government 16. an answer, I have the honour to inlorm you that a categorical response would have been and still is impracticable, unjust to this Government, and misleading to the Government of Her Majesty. It was therefore the judgment of the President that the whole subject could more wisely be remar.ded to the formal discussion so near at hand, which Her Majesty's Government has proposcii, and to which the Government of the United States has cordially assented. It is proper, however, to add that any instruction sent to Behring's Sea at the time of 315 vour orifj;iniil rcqut'Ht, upon tlie 24th August, woiiM have fbiled to reaoli ihow wutera before the proposed departure of the vessels of the United States. 1 have, &e. (Signed) JAMES G. BLAINE. No. 228. The Marquis of Saliiibunj to Mr. Edwnrdes. Sir, Foieiyn Office, October 2, 1889. IN my despatch of the I7th August 1 runiished you with copies* of a corro- s|ioii(i('nce whicii hud passed hetwcen this Department and tlio Colonial Office, on the subject of the seizure of the Canadian vessels " Black Diamond " and " Triumph " in the Hehring's Sea by the United States' Revenue-cutter " Rush." I have now received, jmd transmit herewith, a copy of a desp. tch from the Governor- Geiicnii of Canada to the Secretary of State for the Colonies,! which incloses copies of the inslructiDHs given to the special officer placed on board the " Hlack Diamond" by the OiKccr commanding the " Rush " and of a letter from the Collector of Customs at Victoria, tngellier with the sworn affidavits of the masters of the two Canadian vessels. It is apparent from these affidavits that the vessels were seized at a distance from Innd far in excess of the limit of maritime jurisdistion which any nation can claim by international law. The cases are similar in this respect to those of the ships " Caroline," " Onward," and "Thornton," which were seized by a vessel of the United States outside territorial waters ill the summer of 1887. In a desnatch to Sir L. West dated the 10th September, 1887, wliicli was conirnunicated to Mr. liayard, I drew the attention of the Government of the United States to the illegality of these proceedings, and expressed a hope that due compensa- tion would be awarded to the subjects of Her Majesty who had suffered from them. I iiave not since that time received from the Government of the United States any intima- tion of their intentions in this respect or any explanation of the gron Is upon which this interference with the British sealers had been authorized. Mr. Bayard did indeed communicate to us unofficially an assurance that no further seizures of this character sliould take place pending the discussion of tlie questions involved between the two Governments. Her Majesty's Government much regret to find that this understanding ha> not been carried forward into the present year ; and that instructions have been issued tocniizcrs of the United States to seize British vessels fishing for seals in Behring's Sea outside the limit of tTritorinl waters. The grounds upon which these violent measures liave l)ecn taken have not been communicated to Her Majesty's Government, and remain still unexplained. I'lut, in view of tlie unexpected renewal of the seizures of which Her Majesty's Government have previously complained, it is my duty to protest against them, and to state that, in the opinion of Her Majesty's Government, they are wholly unjustitied by international law. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. ■ ■ 9 m 1 1 ' t I :l the time of No. 229. The Marquis of Salisbury to Mr. Edwardes. I Sir, Foreign Office, October 2, 1889. AT the time when the seizures of British ships hunting seals in Behring's &ea during j the years l«8b and 1887 were the subjects of discussion, the Minister of the United States made certain overtures to Her Majesty's Government with respect to the institution of a dose time for the seal fishery, for the purpose of preventing the extirpation of the Upecies in that part of the world. Without in any way admitting that considerations of liiis order could justify the seizure of vessels whicli were transgressing no rule of inlet- iwlional law, tier Majesty's Government were very ready to agree that the subject was one deserving of the gravest attention on the part of all the Governmeirts interested in those I waters. The Russian Government was disposed to join in the proposed negotiations, but they I were suspended for a time in consequence of objections raised by the Dominion of Canada, [128] Vos. 203, 203, and 204. t No. 322. 2 8 2 ii 316 and of doubts tlirown on the physical data on which any restrictive legislation must have been based. Her Majesty's Government are fully sensible of the importance of this question, and of the great value which will attach to an international agreement in respect to it; and Her Majesty's Representative will be furnished with the requisite instructions in case the Secretary of State should be willing to enter upon the discussion. You will read this despatch and nij previous despatch of the same date to tht Secre- tary of State, and if he should desire it you are authorized to give him copies of them. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 230. The Marquis of Salisbury to Mr. Edwardes. Sir, Foreign Office, October 3, 1889. I HAVE received your desnflrh of the 17th ultimo, anvl 1 have to inform you that i approve the terms of you. ,tter to Mr Blaine, inquiring when a reply might be expected to the request of Her Majesty's Government that instructions might be sent lo the Alaska authorities to prevent the^ ptjssibility of firther seizures of British sealing. vessels in Behring's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 231. Colonial Office to Foreipn Office. — {Received October 5.) Sir, Downing Street, October 5, 188!). I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Manjuis of Salisbury, a copy of a letter from Hi. T. U. Clarke, inclosing a Report of a meeting at Victoria, British Columbia, held to protest ugaiiisl the seizure of British sealing-vessels in Behring's Sea, and adverting to the case of the " Juanita." Lord Knutsford would be gla ! to be informed what answer Lord Salisbury wishes to be returned to Mr. Clarke. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosure I in No. 231. Mr. Clarke to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Highgate House, Kilsby, Rugby, September 24, 1889. I BEG to call your attention to the Report of a meeting headed " A Vigorous Protest," in inclosed Victorian (British Columbia) paper, referring to the seizure of Piiii^h sealing-vissels in the high seas. Also to the notice, marked on p. 4, referring to the robbery of 020 sealskins from the " Juanita," of which vessel mj brother is captain and part-owner. As the vessel was 80 miles ticm land iit the time of the seizure, I, on my brother's Lehalf, beg respectfully to ask whether Her Majesty's Goveranicnt is taking steps to j prevent these illegal seizures, and also to obtain compensation for those who suffer thereby. Yonr kind attentic nd advice will oblige. Yours, &c. (SijnpH) T. U. CLARKE. 317 ,, ! ,i • Inclosure 2 in No. 231. Extracts from the " Victoria Daily Colonist" of September I, \8S9. A ViGOEOUS Protest. — A few evenings ago, a meeting was held at the office of Messrs. Mall and Goepel of those interested in tlie srph'nj; industry, and a Committee of five was appointed to make arrangements for a public meeting at which the voice of the people of Victoria could be heard in refere!ice 'o the recent seizure of British schooners sealing in Behring's Sea. The Committee consulted with Mayor Grant, and a mass meeting was duly advertised to be held at the City Hall last evening for the purpose referred to. By 8 o'clock, at which hour the meeting was called for, every seat in the City Hall WHS taken, and dozens of deeply-interested citizens were compelled to stand. The meeting was thoroughly representative, there being present all the leading business men of Victoria, vessel owners and practical sealing men, while among the most proininent men present were to be noticed the Honourable John Robson, E. Crow Baker, M.P., Lieutenant-Colonel E. G. Prior, M.P., the Honourable Robert Beaven, M.P.P., D. W. Higgins, M.P.P., S. Duck, M.P.P., Mayor Grant, Robert Ward, Presideul of British Columbia Board of Trade, Captain J. D. Warren, E. B. Marvin, W. Munsie, J. H. Todd, Morris Moss, C. ^jtrouss. Captain William Grant, Captain Clarke, R. P. Rithet, and very many others. Upon motion of the Honourable Mr. Beaven, seconded by Mr. E. Crow Baker, M.P., Mayor Grant was requested to take the chair, which he did at 8" 15 p.m. His Worship, in opening the • leeting, said that the matters for the discussion of which the meeting was called had always possessed a deep interest for him. In the early part ot 1887, he ha^' had the honour to move in the House for the submission to the Dominion Governmer' ot a proposition for submission to the Imperial Government in regard to the protection of British scalnig interests in Behrings Sea. His motion had been carried without a dissenting voice. In 18S8 he had made another proposition through the House. This proposition provided that the individual interests shoi'ld not be allowed to suffer by the negligence of the Government in settling this question. He had always been very anxious to see an early settlement of the Behring's Sea (juestion. Without further preface, he wouk' call on Mr. Edgar Crow Baker, M.P. Mr, Baker t pressed pleasure at being culled on to strike the first blow. It 'vas a II matter, he said, tliat concerned not only the individual, Isut the entire province, the dominion at large, and tlie whole British Empire. The matter was on^ deserving of con- sideration, not only because it touched the individual pockets and the province our home, but because it touched our hearts. The view taken by the people of British Columbia was that the grand old flag that they had learned to love from infancy had not only been insulted, but had been trampled in the dust. (Applause.) It was proposed to place everything in connection with the Behring's Sea question before the meeting truly and fairly from llie v^ry stait, and to let the citizens of Victoria express their calm and conscientious opinion upon them.. After referring but briefly to the various Treaties that had been made by the Oniteu States and Canada, which were not, however, entered into at any great length, as they affected more particularly the fisheries on tiie Atlantic seaboard, Mr. Baker pointed out. how, as far back as 1820, when Russia owned Alaska, and claimed jurisdiction not only over the 3-niile limit about its coasts, but also over the sea lOU miles from land, the United States' Secretary made a very vigorous protest at St. Petersburgh against the contention of the Russian Government. The Biitish Govt; liment also strongly disputed Russia's claim, and the result wus that in 1824 a Treaty wiu made with the United States, i.nd in ISi'J one with Great Britain, which sliowed how ilie two great nations. Great Britain and the United States, joinec! is&uc with Russia when she set up the claim to jurisdiction over Behring's Sea, and contended that it was an inland sea, and noc a branch of the Northern Pacific Ocean. On the 20).h June, 1807, tue United States purchased the territory of Alaska and the eastern half of Behring's Sea froi Russia, payin^i therefor the sum of 7,200,000 dollars. At this time, the Russian Goveniiuent gave them vhaf they claimed to be a clear title to f eastern half of Behring's Sea. If that title was bad the fault is not ours. (Applause.) III 1870 the United States' Congress passed a measure prohibiting the killing of seals in close proximity to the Islands of St. George and St. Paul. Shortly al^er this, the United States' Government leased to the Alaska Commercial Company the exclusive right to kill seals for twenty years, in consideration of the sum of 55,000 dullurs p.r an;ium, and certain royalties. In the early part of 1889 an Act was passed, by some claimed to have been smuggled through Congress in a rush, proclaiming not very definitely that intrusions in Behring's Sea would not be allowed ; and containing a sweaping clause granting the President power to f'fl [ (■HHl 318 (leal with matters in connection with sealing by procliimjition. Power of si very indefinite kind was also given in regard to giving inslrnctions to tlie United States' cutters. Agi^res- sive measures were first taken in 1886, when Mr. T. Lubbe wrote to him (Mr. Baker) at Ottawa, informing him that the British interests were endangered. Mr. Lubbe's letter was laid before the Governor-General in Council, and the matter was promptly placed before the. Imperial Government by the Dominion Cabinet. The Minister of Justice lU this time gave his opin'on in favour of the British Columbian sealers both to Mr. Baker and to the Imperial Government, pronouncing the action of the United States illegal, and urging upon the British Government the necessity of taking definite action at once to protect her interests in British Columbia. This was three years and a-half ago, and it was most mortifying to think that this time should have elapsed before any decision was reached. The actual seizures commenced in 1886, when three schooners were taken possession of, along with their fittings and cargoes, and sold. The crews were cast on their own resources in Alaska, and the masters and mates were not only iieavily fined, but imprisoned as well. Matters of losses were expected by every one in business ; but every British Columbian felt that he was protected by the flag of Kngland, under which many present were born, and thought it strange that he was aot sheltered by the flag whose protection he had a right to expect. In 1887 nothing practical was done, and no restitution was made In 1887 the number of seizures was doubled, six schooners being taken possession of. Coming to the present, in 1888 no seizures were made, and there was every reason to believe tiiac the seizures would be discontinued. The Dominion Government had acted as promptly and as energetically as they possibly could. They had placed all matters promptly and rightly before the Imperial Government. It was therefore easy to see where the responsibility rested. It was impossible for the Government of Canada to protect its citizens outside of the coast limit of a marine league. When the citizens of British Colui ihia sailed for the northern seas they passed beyond the protection of the Federal (iovernmLnt, fondly hoping that wherever they went they were protected by the old flag of England. Mr. Baker proceeded to read an amount of correspondence in reference to the appeal for protection made by Mr. Morris Moss (or the Biitish Columbia sealers on iStb .March, 1888, which the Minister of Justice replied to by saying that it was to Great Britain to whom the scalers should look for protection. The Dominion Government could not send armed ships on the high seas to protect Canadians. On the 28th July ot this year the schooner "Triumph " arrived n port, and her captain orought t!ie news of his being boarded by Lieutenant Tuttle, of th \ United States' cutter " Riciiard Rush," and warned by him that if he was found in Bc'iriiig's Sea fishing,' or hunting for seals, not only would his catch of seals be forfeited, but his vessel i"(i equipments woul.i be confiscated, and sent with a piize crew on board to an Atiierican port. The "Triumph" also brought news of the capture of the "Black Diamond." Immediately afterwards, on flic following day, he (Mr. Baker) had telegraphed again to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, asking him if it was not possible to secure some protection for the twenty other British sealers m Behri.ig's Sea. The steamer "Sardony.\" was going north with coal for Her Majesty's war-ships, then in tlie north, in a few days, and it was suggested that instruction could be sent to them by the Im[)eria! Government to protect the British sealers. An answer was received that the matter would receive immediate consideration. Having reviewed the whole history of the sealing question, Mr. Baker expressed the belief that all present could see for themselves how outrageous it was for any Government to arrogate to itself the exclusive control of a great body of water such as Behring's Sea ,vns — 700 miles long from north to south, and 900 miles wide. The desire of the sealers of Victoria was, rirst of all, to secure a guarantee that the seizures would be stopped. They had also a reasonable right to expect compensation for the losses already sustaiued, and without further delay. They, further, wished to be secured in their right to [)rosecute the deep-sea fishing, of which fur-sealing was a branch. He would conclude by inoving the following Resolution : — " Whereas in the year ISSG, by order o( the Government of the United States, claiming exclusive territorial jurisdiction over the wliole of Bi^hring's Sea, eastward of a line drawn from about tlie middle of Heliring's Strait south-westward till it crosses the 193rd meridian of longitude, three British vessils, while lawfully engaged in hunting icals, W'ere seized in that sea at distances of from b.') to 70 miles from the nearest land ; and " Wl.ereas alter protest by the British Government against such seizures, the Govern- ment of the United States ordered the unconditional release of the said vessels; and "Whereas by such a course the United States' Government ]n'actically admitted the illegality of the seizures, and left it to be inferred that no further seizures would be made; and 819 "Whereas in 1887 it again resorted to the seizure of sealing-vessels in Behiing's Sea outside the 3-mile limit, and at distances from 15 to 92 miles from the nearest land, six vessels belonging to our citizens were seized by its orders and afterwards declared forfeited to the Unite.! States ; and "Whereas in the following year, 1888, sealing-vessels belonging to our citi; cis again entered Behring's Sea, and took seals throughout the season without molestation by the R( venue-cutters ot the Government of the United States, which had distinctly that year, bv its instructions to the commanders of its cutters in Behring's Sea, ordered that no seizures of such vessels be made ; and " Whereas in the present year seizures of British sealing-vessels belonging to our citizens have again been made, practically in iiiid-occan, in Behring's Sea, by order of the Government of the United States, the vessels robbed of sealskins on board, and arms and ammunition : " Be it therefore resolved, that the citizens of Victoria protest against the usurpation of jurisdiction by the Goxernment of the United States over the waters of Behring's Sea, outside the universally acknuvvledgeil 3-mile limit, and express thci. indij^nation at the repeated outrages to which the ,jersons and property of their fellow-citizens, lawfully exercising t' eir ri'^iits on the high seas in that part of the globe, are subject'.d by the cders of the (Government of the United States." Lieutcniint-Coionel Prior, M.P., was called upon to second the Besolutior. He was very glad, he said, to do so. He considered the conc'uct of the United States in the matter of seizing vessils on the high seas the most outrageous that could be thought of. There was no necessity for rtvievvii g the question the present meeting was called to consider. It had been fully gone into already. 'J'he question was, what right had the American Government to seize our sealers ? A Voice from the audience. — No right. Colonel Prior, continuing. — That was just the answer I was going to make. The press of both countries says they nad no right. The most important papers of the United States sav tluit the American Government will have to back down in their contention. The Russian Government, by Treaties with both the United States and Canada, gave up their claim to jurisdiction over Piehring's Sea in lSi5. IJow then can the United States chiini to have puichased their jurisdiction from Russia? The great majority of Americans acknowledge timt the claim advanced by their Government has nothing to rest on. Who is to blauic then for not stopping these illegal seizures? The Dominion Government are not to blame. They have done all in their power. When the news of the first seizure this year reached me, I was in Kamloops. I at once telegraphed to Ottawa, and expnssed the ho|)e that the Imperial Government would give Admiral H i';e orders to retake the captured vessels. The "Caroline" had orders to do this in . 7 liut for some reason was recalled. If in 1887, why not now r* It the Behring's Sea quostioa is jjurely one of jurisdiction, why does not tie American Government allow its own sealers to fill and hunt unuiolested? !t is not the reason. The United States' Government istr\ing to bolster up (1 giant monopoly — the Alaska Commercial Company, who by tender acquire i u lease of sealing rights on the Islands ot St. George and St. Paul, the breeding-grounds, I'or twenty years, 'I'he true reason for their action is tliat the Anieriean Government is atraid to lose the 315,000 dollars piiid them annually by the Alaska Commercial Company. Governor Swineford, of Alaska, has condemned the Company as the greatest and worst monopoly in America, but, as he says, it has its agents always at Washington to pull the strings in its interest. This is the last season of the Company's lease, and there is no knowing what the Government propose to do next. This year, when we first heard of the outrages in Behring's f^ea, he had thought, and he was not the only one on the iloor of the House ol Coniinoiis who had thought the same, that it would not b;- poor ])olicy to send the Ihitish tieet into Behring's Sea to proteet the interests of Canadians. If France set up a clai(n of Jurisdiction o\er some particular part of the ocean, and seized a German sealer therein, do ;ou think that it would have taken three years to settle the ciuestion ? Possibly, hut they would be three very bad years for some one I (Cheers.) If Beaconsfield had lived, would it have taken England three years and a-half to settle this (juestion ? Xo! (Cheers.) He liad pleasure in seconding the Resolution introduced by his colleague. , » , The Resolution was carried unanimously, with cheers. The Honourable Mr. Beaven was the next speaker. He touched U|)on the various Tiiaties dealing witii Behring's ."^ea, and rcterred to the mann(;r in which British subjects wre taught, that they were protected by the Hag of England while and wherever they were engaged in a lawful calling. I he action of the United States was contrary to international law, It had been so pronounced by the I'remier of lingland and a host of United States' m 820 authorities. He thought matters should be at once referred to arbitration, as there could be no disputing the legality as well as the justice of the Canadian claim. It was true that Canada had suffered in past arbitration with the States ; but still, arbitration was far preferable to any other method in the settlement of eAMsting disputes. He proceeded to review the value of the sealing fleet and mdustry to the province, and explain the dimen- sions it might assume if the present difficulties were settled. From a dollar-and-cents point of view, it was necessary that action should be taken at once. He bega;ed to move the following Resolution : — *' Resolved, — That, as loyal British subjects, we resent the insult to our dag, and respectfully claim for our vessels and citizens on the high seas that protection bv the British Government which for centuries has been the right and pride of even tiie meanest subject of the Empire, but which now seems to be denied us, causing great loss to the commerce of our city, and financial ruin to our fellow-citizens engaged in the sealing industry." Mr. S. Duck, M.P.P., seconded the Resolution. There should be no more delay. Some action should at once be taken to secure British subjects in pursuit of their lawful avocation from illegal seizure ; and to let them know whether they are to receive cotnpRn- sation for loss already sustained while pursuing their legitimate calling on the high sea^, It was hard for him to understand the apathy that had been shown by the Imperial Government in this matter. The good sense of the American people would compel their Government to take a right action in the matter, if the Imperial Government but did their duty by Canada. He was glad to second the Resolution. Again the Resolution was put and canied, with loud applause, but no dissenting voice. Mr. D. W. Higgins, M.P.P., was next called upon. He said that he had had placed in his hands the following Resolution, which he proceeded to read : — " Resolved, — That the time has come for a speedy and final settlement of the question of our rights in Behring's Sea, and we urge upon both the Imperial and Canadian Govern- ments the danger of allowing this question to longer remain Ojjen." He thought this placed the question in a practical form. The other Resolutions were longe> , but still explicit. He could not, he said, help contrasting the action of Knaiiand when Imperial rights were concerned with her action in tins case when C;)lonial interest was at stake. The Delagoa Bay incident came to his memory. Certain English propertv was seized by Portugal, and a cable-message was at once sent to England. Three days after a fleet was ordered to Delagoa Bay to protect the Britisli interests. It would have been in keeping with this policy if the fleet at Gsquimalt had long ago been sent to Behring's Sea to protect British interests. Beaconsfield, at the close of his carreer, said; " I have kept peace with honour." Can Salisbury, if the present policy is continued, siiv the same at the close of his career ? He may say, " I have kept peece," but at the sacrifice of the liberties of the greatest and most warlike nation in the world, lie (Mr. Higgins) had paid a visit to the Southern States, and witnessed all the awful desola- tion apparent just after the civil war. He had at that time breathed the prayer tlint his country might never know the horrors of war. War was awful ; but there was one thing just as terrible— a peace preserved at the loss of national honour. (Loud cheers.) Mr. R. P. llitliet seconded Mr. Higgins' Resolution. He acknowledged that it was humiliating to be compelled to make an appt il for protection to our own nation while pursuing a lawful avocation on the higli seas. The matter was of no moment wliethertli' msult had been offered to one humble su!)ject or to many. The principle was the sami', British subjects had been illegally made prisoners of on the high seas, and had been fined and imprisoned. Like good subjeets, they had waited long for action to be taiien without their demanding it as their right. This action not having been made, however, it was j necessary now to emphasize the representations that had been made to the Iii;pe;iid Government. Like Colonel Prior, he himself felt like striking back when he was hit, He thought it would have been a good thing if one of the British men-of-war lying idly in I Esquimau Haibour had sailed north for Behring's Sea with the "Richard Rush " at the | beginning of the season ; kept in the •' Rush's '' company until she attempted to interfere | with some British sealer, and then quietly sail between and s y, " You must not!" The United States now claimed that their desire was to protect the sealing industry I from extermination. It was the desire of Victoria's sealers »s well, and they would nial<e no attempt to disobey any international regulations that mis^ht be made for the preservation I of the seals. He was fully in accord with the Resolution, which he seconded. Like its two predecessors, the Resolution passed unanimously. Mr. Robert Ward, President of the British Columbia Board of Trade, drew attention J to the inconBisteucy shown by the American Government, and carefully reviewed tliel 321 re could rue that was far eeded to e dimen- ind-cents to move flag, and ction bv even the great loss he sealint; )re delay. leir lawful 3 coinpen- high seas, ! Imperial mpel their it did their dissenting d placed in 16 question qiestion of compensation before moving the follov.ing Resolution, which was seconded by fer.J. H.Todd :— "Whereas no compensation has yet been made (o the owners and crews of any of the vecseis so seized and forfeited, be it therefore resolved, that we urge the Governments of Canada and Great Britain to promptly compensate the sufferers by these seizures, irrespective of the merits of the i»rrfrnationni questions involved." Carried unanimously. The Mayor then called upon the Hon. Mr. Kohson to move the next Resolution. Mr. Robson stepped forward amidst applause. Me said the hour was so late, and so inucli had been said, and sd well suid, that he did not feel justified in occupying much of the time of the meeting. He was in perfect accord with the Resolutions which had been passed, and was hopeful of good results. That some such steps had not been taken sooner was matter of surprise and regret. Too long had the glorious old flag of which we all felt justly proud been ^railed in the dust on these western seas with impunity (loud applause), and true loyalty lecjuired that we should emi)loy every legitimate means to put a stop to it. Long enough had Brother Jonathan been allowed with impunity to twist the tail of the British lion, and now it remained for the "simple fishermen of Victoria" to strike a lucifer under the lethargic old animal's nose, and arouse it to a proper sense of duty. (Applause.) One speaker had said the Provincial Government had nothing to do with this matter, while another said it had. Perhaps in the strict official sense it had not; but he conceived that in a very important sense it had to do with whatever concerned the welfare of the country, and he felt it to be due to the Provincial Government to say that this matter had received its most earnest attention. (Applause.) It had jirepared and transmitted no fewer than sixteen Orders in Council and telegrams, and he could assure the meeting that these were couched in !is strong language as was consistent with State documents. (Applause.) He moved the following Resolution : — " Resolved, — That copies of the Resolutions passed at this meeting be forwarded to the Imperial and Canadian Governments, and to all Boards of Trade in Canada." Mr. A. B. Gray seconded the Resolution, which he considered a fitting climax to the evining's work. It would show to the world the attitude the province of British Columbia had assunied afte* mature consideration of the question dealt with. The Resolution was carried, again unanimously ; and after a vote of thanks to the Mayor, both for calling the meeting and for his services in the chair, the meeting adjourned. N 3! 4 ■ ng industry! would make oreservatioii Another Returns. — Messrs. Hall and Goepel's little sealing schooner " Juanita,' Captain Charles E. Clarke, which has been expected for several days, arrived safely yesterday afternoon, and tied up at Janion's wharf. Captain Clarke reports having sailed direct from Behring's Sea for home, but having been compelled to wait four days for a favourable wind to bring him in from the Straits. The " Juanita " was overhauled by the United States* cutter " Rush " on the 31st .July while sealing in Behring's Sea. She was boarded by the captain and lieutenant of the cutter with a boat's crew, who demanded Captain Clarke's papers, and also took possession of the entire catch of the schooner, 620 skins. The guns and ammunition carried by the ichooner were safely hidden away, and the officers of the " Rush " failed to discover their whereabouts. Captain Clarke protested vigorously against the seizure, which, he informed the officers of thi^ cutter, was outrageous, the schooner being 80 miles out in the open sea. They replied that they were sorry to be compelled to do it, but were forced to obey their orders. After instructing the captain to sail for Sitka, but without any American " prize crew," the " Rush " steamed awav to capture another schooner sighted, and supposed to be the " Lily." As soon as the cutter had dropped behind the horizon the "Juanita" resumed her liunting, but her luck had apparently gone. After several days of hard weather the "Juanita" sailed for home, passing the schooner " Kate" on the way down, but not close I enough to speak her. 3W attention I Bviewed tliej [128] 2 T li 326 80 miles from the nearest land, and, as the captain of the " Juanita " defines it, " on the blue waters of the Great Ocean." The Committee recommend that vour Excellency be moved to transmit a copy of this Minute, together with copy of the annexed papers, to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for submission to Her Majesty's Government. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. Inclosure 6 in No. 237. Affidavit of the Master and Mate of the British Schooner "Juanita." WE, the undersigneH master and mate of the British schooner "Juanita," hereby affirm and declare : — That the schooner "J anita" entered the Behring's Sea on the 2nd day of July, 1889, having on board a crew consisting of four white men and fourteen Indians, all told, with seven canoes and one boat, the said schooner being engaged on n fur-scalin;; voyjige. That on the 31st day of July, at about 3 a.m., the schooner being at that time in latitude 65° 30' north, longitude 170° 26' west, according to the master's reckoninir, the United States' Revenue-cutter " Richard Rush " was discovered a short distance from the vessel. After some delay she (the "Richard Rush") steamed alongside the "Juanita," and the captain requested that the schooner be hove-to, as he wished to board her. In the course of a very short time the schooner was boarded by three officers, the senior of whom inquired from the master with regard to the length of time the vessel had been in the sea, and the number of skins on board. On learning these particulars he (the officer) informed the master of the "Juanita" that he should have to seize his vessel and ci.:chj after which lie instructed his boat's crew to tranship the sealskins (620 in number) to the " Richard Rush," which work was immediate-/ proceeded with. The schooner's master remonstrated with the steamer's officer at the irregularity of this proceeding, pointing out the fact that the vessel was then something like 80 miles from the nearest land, and on the blue water of the Great Ocean, to which the officer replied timt he was simply carrying out the orders and instructions of his superiors. He then demanded the schooner's papers and the spears of the Indian hunters, which were given up. The papers consisted of the schooner's certificate of registration and her clearance. After all the skins had been transhipped, two letters were sent on board the schooner; one (addressed to the master) proved to be a certificate of the seizure, and the other was I addressed to the District Attorney of AInska at Sitka. With these came verbal ' instructions to the master to proceed with his vessel to Sitka, after which the steamer went on her way. During the time of these operations the British ensign was flying at the schooner's | peak, nor was it hauled down until after the steamer had resumed her course. (Signed) CHAS. E. CLARKE. JOSEPH SECORD. Sworn before me this 2nd day of September, 1889. (Signed) J. W. SnoTBOLT, Justice of the Peace. Inclosure 7 in No. 237. Certificate of Seizure. United States' Revenue-steamer " Rush," Behring's Sea, Lat. 55° 42' N., Long. 170° 40' W., July 31, 1889. To whom it may concern. THIS will certify that I have this day seized the British schooner " Juanita," of] Victoria, British Columbia, C. E. Clarke, master, lor violation of law, section 1956 Revisei' Statutes, United States, and taken possession of his ship's papers, consisting of registry ani clearance. (Signed) L. G. SHEPARD, Captain, United States' Bevenue Marine. Report of a ON a Fisheries, su of the maste this vessel bj tlie 27th Au' together wit also the inst commander disregarded Columbia, ini The Mil less irritating The Cor Minute, toge Secretary of Government Government case been infl All whic 327 Inclosure 8 in No. 297. Captain Shepard, U.S.N., to the United States' District Attorney. United States' Revenue-steamer " Rush" Behring's Sea, Sir, Lat. 55° 29' N., Long. 166° 15' W, August 6, 1889. I HAVE the hone ar to inform you that I have this day in the Behring's Sea, latitude 55° 29' north, longitude 166° 15' west, seized the British schooner "Lily," of Victoria, British Columbia, John Seilly, master, for violation of law, section 1956 Revised Statutes. 1 have taken his arms and sealskins, 333 in number, on board the " Bush," for better security, and as I have no officer to spare to place in charge, I have directed the captain to proceed with his vessel to Sitka, Alaska, and on his arrival to set his crew, three white men and twenty-five Indians, at liberty, and to report in person to you ; and I have to request that you will take charge of this vessel and her officers. Captain John Seilly and mate, George McDonald, until I can appear in the United States' District Court at vSitka against them. Very respectfully, (Si-jned) L. G. SHEPARD. Inclosure 9 in No. 237. Deputy Governor Sir W, Ritchie to Lord Knutsjord. My Lord, Ottawa^ September 23, 1889. I HAVE the honour to transmit herewith a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council of Canada, to which is appended u copy of the sworn statement oi the master of tiie British schooner " Pathfinder," giving particulars of the seizure of his v.^ssel by the United States' Revenue-cutter " Richard Rush," in Behring's Sea, on the 27th August last. The Canadian Government, as your Lordship will observe, call attention to the irritating^ and unjustifiable nature of the seizure, and request that suitable redress be (ieiuanded from the United States' Government for the wrong inflicted on loyal subjects of Her Majesty. I have, &c. (Signed) W. J. RiTCHIE. Inclosure 10 in No. 237. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor 'General in Council, on the I4th September, 1889. ON a Report, dated the 7th September, 1889, from the TT'nister of Marine und Fisheries, submitting, in connection with the Behring's Sea seizures, the sworn statement of the master of the British schooner " Pathfinder," giving the particulars of the seizure of this vessel by the United States' Revenue-cutter " Richard Rush," in the Behring's Sea, on the 27th August last, and the removal thereto from the " Pathfinder " of 851 sealskins, together with all the rifles, shot-guns, and ammunition on board; the Ministe- ^-^bmits also the instructions given the special officer placed on board the " Pathfinder ' by the commander of the " Richard Rush," and it will be noticed, however, these were disregarded by the master and crew, as the vessel was navigated to Victoria, British Columbia, instead of Sitka. The Minister observes that the circumstances which characterize this seizure are no less irritating and unjustifiable than those which have preceded it. The Committee recommend that your Excellency be moved to transmit a copy of this Minute, together with the papers herewith, to the Right Honourable the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies, in order to bring to the notice of Her Majesty's Government the particulars of the seizure in question, with a view to seeking from the Government of the United States redress commensurate with the wrong which has in this case been inflicted upon loyal subjects of Her Majesty. AH which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. . , (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. ■ I! ili 1il ■ ]'■■' ill S21 # Inclosure 3 in No. 236. Resolulionn adopted at a Meeting of the Citizens of Victoria, British Columbia, held August 31, 1889. ' [See Inclosure 2 in No. 231.] No. 237. Colonial Office to Foreign Offico. — {Received October 25.) Sir, Downing Street, October 24, 1889. I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, for the consideration of the Marquis of Salisbury, copies of four (icspiitclies, with accompanying papers, received from the Governor-General of Canada, relntinsr to the seizure, by tlic United States' Revenue- cutter " Rush " in tiie Behring's Sea, of the British seaiing-vessels named in the margin.* I have, &c. (Signed) R. H. MEADE. Inclosure 1 in No. 237. Deputy Governor Sir W. Ritchie to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Ottawa, September 20, 1889. I HAVE the honour to inclose herewith, for your Lordship's information, a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council, submitting the affidavit of the owner and master of the British schooner " Minnie," who therein set forth the circumstances under which that vessel with her cargo of sealskins was seized in Behring's Sea on the l.')th July last by the United States' Revenue-cutter " Rush." I hove, &c. (Signed) W. J. RITCHIE. Inclosure 2 in No. 237. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council, on the 14 <A September, IbSJ). ON a Report, dated the 12th September, 1889, from the Minister of Marino and Fisheries, submitting the affidavit of the owner and master of tiic British sciiooncr "Minnie," which vessel, with her cargo of 421 sealskins, was seized in the Behring's Sea on the 15th July last by the United States' Revenue-cutter "Rush;" the Committee recommend that your Excellency be moved to transmit a copy of tliis Minute, togetiier with copy of the annexed affidavit, to the Riglit Honourable the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies, for submission to Her Majesty's Government. All which is respectfully submitted for vour Excellencv's approval. (Signed) ' JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. Inclosure 3 in No. 237. Affidavit of Victor Jacohson. I, VICTOR JACOBSON, owner and master of the British schooner " Minnie," o. Victoria, British Columbia, make oath and say : — I cleared my vessel from Victoria in the early part of May for a sealing voyage to Behring's Sea. My crew consisted of five white men and sixteen Indians. I entered the sea on the 27th June, and commenced sealing on the 15th July. I was hove-to under reefed mainsail and jib, when I perceived a vessel under full steam bearing down upon us. * « .Minnie," " JuanikV " Pathfinder," and " Lily." 9n This wan nbout 3 P.M. I made sail and tried to get away, but was soon overhauled by wlint turned out to be the United States' cutter " Rush." Some one on board shouted out, " Henve-to." I did so, and a boat filled witli men came alongside. A Lieutenant came on board and asked me for my papers, wliich I ^ave him. He then asked me how many seals I had. I replied about 450. Hn then took my papers off to the cutter, and returned and ordered his men to take ott' the hatches, and bring up all tlie skins they could tind. Tliey took off 421 skins to the cutter. I went on board the cutter and interviewed Captain Sliepherd, who told me he must obey his orders, which were to seize every schooner found sealin<; in the Hehring's Sea, and send them to Sitka. I returned to the schooner, when the Lieutiinniit asked me for my guns and spears. lie took a breech- loading gim and a mu'/./.le-Ioader, but rel'used a Frencii musket which I offered him. He then left, with his men, leavinj; one man on l)oard. The cutter tiien steamed away. The Lieutenant told nie before leaving tiiat 1 was 05 miles south-ea^t by east from Aoaimak Pass. After the cutter led the IJnited States' sailor told me he was in charge, but he never attempted to interfere with the working of the vcssil. Some time afterwards he showed me bis written instructions, which were tiiat the vessel siiould proceed to Sitka, and there he handed over to United States' Marshal, and tiiat tiie captain and mate should be arrested. J then concluded I would not go to Sitka, but would continue my voyage. That night we made some new spears, and next morning commenced luinting as though notiiing had happened. We captured fifty seals tiiat day and ninety or the next, kept on hunting until the 1 7lli August, wlien, having Hvo hundred seals on hoi.'d, 1 lei t for the south. After passing througli Aonimak I'ass, I told tiie p.i/.e crew I should steer for Victoria. He replied, *' 1 always thought so." The Indians told ine if the United States' sailor attempted to take the vessel to Sitka they would throw him overboard. We arrived in V'^ietoiia last and to-day at noon the prize crew came ashore and reported at the American Consulate. (Signed) VICTOR JACOliSON. Sworn betore me, at V^ictoria, British Columbia, 'Jnd day of September, a.u. 188y. (Signed) RonuiiT Waiid, A Justice of the Peace for the Province of British Columbia, 1 i| Inclosure 4 in No. 237. Deputy Governor Sir IV. Ritchie to Lord Knutsford, My Lord, Ottawa, September 21, 1889. I HAVE the honour to transmit herewith a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council, submitting the affidavit of the master and mate of the British schooner "Juanita," which vessel was seized on the 31st July last by the United States' Revenue- cutter " Rush," together with a cojiy of tlie receipt of the captain of the " Rush " for the siiip's papers, and a sealed envelope addressed to the United States' District Attorney at Sitka. Your Lordship will observe that the seizure took place about 80 miles from the nearest land. I have, &c. (Signed) W. J. RITCHIE. Inclosure 5 in No. 237. Keport of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor- General in Council, on the \4th September, 1889. ON a Report dated the 12th September, 1889, from the Minister of Marine and I Fisheries, submitting the affidavit of the master and mate of the British schooner "Juanita," which vessel, with her cargo of 620 sealskins, was seized in the Behring's Sea Ion the 31st July last by the United States' Revenue-cutter " Rush," together with the I original receipt of the captain of the "Rush" for the ship's papers, and a sealed envelope laddressed to the United States' District Attorney at Sitka; and it will be observed that in ■this case the captain of the " Rush " has fixed the latitude and longitude at which the pizure took place at 56° 42' north latitude and 170" 40' west longitude, which is about; I I No. 232. Foreign Office to Colonial Office, Sir, Foreign Office, October 6, 1889. I HAVE laid before the Marquis of Salisbury your letter of the 10th ultimo, inclosing a copy of u despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, dated the 26tii August last, in which his Excellency transmits copies of the instructions given to the special officer placed on board the " Black Diamond " by the officer conunanding the United States' Revenue-cutter " Rush," and of a letter from the Collector of Customs at Victoria, together with affidavits of the masters of the " Black Diamond " and "Triumph." I am directed l)y his Lordship to state in reply, for the information of Lord Knuts- ford, that he has addressed to Her Majesty's Chargd d'Aflaires at Washington tiie two despatciics of which copies are inclosed.* They have been subuatled to, and have received the concurrence of, the Law Officers of the Crown. I am, &c. (Signed) T. H. SANDERSON. No. 233. Mr. Edwardes to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received by telegraph, October 13.) My liOrcl, Washington, October 12, 1889. I HAD the honour to receive on the 11th instant your Lordship's despatches of the 2nd instant on the subject of the seizures of British vessels in Behring's Sea. With the view of carrying out your Lordship's instructions to read the above despatches to the Secretary of State, leaving with him, should he desire it, copies thereof, I called yesterday at the Department of State, but was unable to find Mr. Blaine that day. Accordingly, I called on him the next morning by appointment, read the two despatches to him, and left with him copies of the same. When I came to the passage in your Lordship's despatch which refers to the communication made by Mr. Bayard to Her Majesty's Government, unofficially, of an assurance that no further seizures of the character indicated should take place pending the discussion of the questions involved between the two Governments, Mr. Blaine stopped mo and asked me if I could tell him in what manner this unofficial assurance iiad been given. I replied that I believed it to have been given in a letter from Mr. Bayard to Sir L. \Vcst, and that the letter would be found in the printed correspondence relative to the seal fisheries in Behring's Sea which was laid before Congress this year.t When I had concluded the reading of the despatches, Mr. Blaine asked me for copies of them, which 1 handed to him, and before I took my leave be said that he would send nie a reply later on. . I have, &c. (Signed) H. G. EDWARDES. No. 234. The Marquis of Salisbury to Mr. Edwardes. — (Substance telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign Office, October 14, 1889, WITH reference to your telegram of the 12th instant, I have to observe that the I assurance to which I alluded in my despatch of the 2nd instant was conveyed to me I unofficially by Mr. Phelps on the 3rd April, 1888. t The conveisation was recorded in a I letter of the same date to the Colonial Office. There is also an allusion in a similar| sense in a despatch from Sir L. West of the 6th April. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. • No>. 22" ind 229. t Sec M: afre from the President of the United States of February 12, 1889, p. 13; Mr. Bayard tvl Sir L. West, February 3, 1887. i See No9. Ill and 120. ^i— 328 No. 235. Foreign Office to Colonial Office, Sir, Foreiyn Office, October 15, 1889. I AM directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to acknowledge the receipt of your letter ol the 5t\i iustant, forwarding copy of a letter and inclosures from Mr. T. A. Clarke relative to the seizure of British sealing-vessels in Behring's Sea, with special mention of the case of the " Juanita," and asking what reply should, in Lord Salisbury's opinion, be returned to Mr. Clarke. I am directed by his Lordship to suggest that the answer should be to the effect that the question is at present under discussion between the two Governments, and that Sir J. Pauncefoto, who is now on his way out, will at once enter upon the subject on his arrival at Washington. I am, &c. (Signed) T. H. SANDERSON. No. '236. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {^Received October 25.) Sir, Downing Street, October 24i, 1889. WITH reference to the letter from this Department of the 5th instant, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, inclosing an approved Minute of his Privy Council, with copy of Eesolutions passed at a n\eetinjQ^ of the citizens of Victoria, British Columbia, on the 31st August last, respecting the seizure of Britisli sealing- vessels in Behriug's Sea. Lord Knutsford proposes to reply to the Governor-General, with the concurrence of Lord Salisbury, in terms similar to those suggested as a reply to Mr. Clarke in your letter of the 15th instant. I am, Sic. (Signed) R. H. MEADE. Inclosure 1 in No. 236. Deputy Governor Sir W. Ritchie to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Ottawa, September 19, 1889. I HAVE the honour to forward herewith a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council, submitting a copy of the Resolutions passed at a meeting of the citizens of Victoria, British Columbia, on the 31st August, respecting the seizures of British sealing- vessels in Behring's Sea. I have, &c. (Signed) W. J. RITCHIE. Inclosure 2 in No. 2S6. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council, on the Mth September, 1889. ON a Report, dated the Uth September, 1889, from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, submitting a copy of the Resolutions passed at a meeting of the citizens of Victoria, British Columbia, on the 3 1st August, having reference to the Behring's Sea sei/.ures, the Committee, on the recommendation of the Minister of Marine and Fisheriea, advise that your Excellency be moved to forward a copy thereof to the Right Honourable the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies, for submission to Her Majesty's Govern- ment. All which is respectfully submitted. . . (Signed) JOHN J. MoGEE, • >••■ Clerk, Privtf Councih [128] ' ■ ' ^ . 2T2 m I! 328 Inclosure 1 1 in No. Ii3". Statement of Captain O'Leary, Victoria, British Columbia, Autjunl '.\0, 1HH!). CAPTAIN O'LEARY stutcs that lie sailed ns muster on board the British scliooncr "Pathfinder," owned by Cnrnc and Munsie, of Vieforia. We cleared at Custom-house on the I7th April tor a miiling expedition to the North Pacific Ocean and on Uehrin^'s Sea. Wc bad fair success, and shipped the early season's catcii to Victoria. We eiifcied Bchring's Sea on the 1st July, imd up to the 27th of that month had taken about 800 skins, the weather bting lather unt'uvoiirable for scaling up to that time. On the mornini? of the *_'!)fb we slighted the United States' cutter " Kichard ilusii " in about .'i?" -4' north liititude, 172° W west longitude. Commander Shepard ordered nie to lieave-to ; I did so : as there was no wind, escape was impossible. First Lieutciiiint Tuttle came on board with a boat's ercw, and asked me if I was sealing; I told him 1 was. lie asked me how many skins I had on board ; I told him 1 bad about 851. He then returned to the Revenue-eutter, and in a short time returned and told me be was goiiit; to seize my vessel. I asked him what he was goinj^ to seize me for ; he said for sealiii,' in Bebring's Sea. His men then searched my vessel, and took all the ship's papers, 8.')4 sealskins, 12 riflis and shot-guns, also all shells, cartridges, &x'., which were transferred to the cutter "Rush." He put one of bis crew on board my vessel, and tolii me to |)roeced to Sitka with the " Pathfinder." The "Rush " then steamed away, niul I headed the " Pathfinder" south. After we were well out of the Behring's Seu, some ol my crew informed the American ofhcer that wc were bound lor Victoria. He said nothinj; to me, nor did he offer any objection. As the month of August is our best sealing month, I consider we could casilv have taken 3,000 seals in all to tlic end of the sealing season. (Signed) W. O'LEAHV. Sworn before me this Hist day of August, 188(t. (Signed) .1. W. SuO'V^OhT, Justice of the Peace. Inclosure 12 in No. 2<7. Cn/ittiin Shepard, U.S.N., to Mr. Hunter. United States' Revenue-cutter " Rush," Behrintjs Seu, Sir, Lat. .i7° 24' JV., Long. 171° 55' W., July 29, 1889. YOU are hereby appointed a special officer, and are directed to proceed on board the schooner " Pathfinder," of Victoria, British Columbia, this day seized for violation of section 195G Revised Statutes of the United States, and assume charge of the said vessel, her officers and crew, twenty white men, all told ; excepting the navigation of the vessel, which is reserved to Captain O'Leary, and which you will not interfere with unless you become convinced he is proceeding to some other than your port of destination, in which event you are authorized to assume full charge of the vessel. Everything being in readiness, you will direct Captain O'Leary to make the best of his way to Sitka, Aliiska, and upon arrival at that port you will report in person to the United States' District Attorney for the District of Alaska, and deliver it to him, the letter so addressed, the schooner, her outfit, and the persons of Captain William O'Leary and mate, A. Davidson, and set the crew at liberty. After being relieved of the property and persons intrusted to your care, you will await at Sitka the arrival of the " Rush." Respectfully, &c. (Signed) L. G. SHEPARI). Inclosure 13 in No. 237. Deputy Governor Sir W. Ritchie to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Ottawa, September 24, 188!). I HAVE the honour to forward herewith a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council, submitting a copy of the affidavit of the master of the British sealing-schooner " Lily," which vessel was seized in Behring's Sea by the United States' Revenue-cutter •' Richard Rush " on the 6th ultimo, about 60 miles from the nearest land, together with a copy of the certificate of seizure signed by the captain of the " Richard Kusb," and a sealed communication addressed to the United States' District Attorney at Sitka. '.::' ^ : I have, &c. ' ■ (Signed) W. J. RITCHIE. 329 Inclosurc 14 in No. 2.^7. Jirport of II Committee of tin- Honourable the I'rivi/ ('ouiiril, approreil by liin Excrllencij the Gotrrnor-Gfiii'riil in CoiincH, on the 18</i Srptemher, 1H89. ON a Meinoiaiulum, dated tlie I Htli September, IHnfj, tVoni the Minister of Mnriiie and Fisheries, siibinittini; tlic alHdiivit ol the muster of the Hritish seuiiii^-scliooiior *' Lily," which vessel wns on the (itii diiy of Aunnst Inst in the Iteiu'ing's Sen (latitude Gf)" 3i)' noi'th, longitude Kifi" 1')' west), dislimt iiiioul (iO miles (roni the nearest, hind, with her cargo of :]i\'.\ sealskins, seized hy the United States' Ucvemu'-euttor •' l?ieliiiid Rush," also the certificate of seizme sij;ned hy L. (». Shepiivd, eapta'.u of the " Richard Rush," and a seided coiiinnniication addressed to the United Slates' District Attorney, District of Alaska, Sitka, qiven to the master of the " l^ily " lor delivery on his iirrival at Sitka, whither he was ordered to proceed, which order, however, he disief{arded, and saihid to Victoria. The Uommittce advisi' that your Kxeelloney he phased to forward copies of the inclosures to the Rii-Jit Honourable the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies, for submission to Her Majesty's Government. All which is respectfully submitted for approval. (Signed) .JOHN J. McGEK, Cli-rlc, Privy Council. i ■' Inclosure 1.^) in No. l;'J7. Declaration of John Reilly, In the matter of the seizure of the sealing schooner " Lily " by the United Statei' Revenue-cutter "Richard Rush," on the (itii day of August, a.d. |H8I». L JOHN REHXY, of tiie city of Victoria, British Columbia, master mariner, do solemnly and sincerely declare that : I Bin a master mariner, and was at mo time of the occurrences hereinafter mentioned, and still am, the master of the schooner " Lily," of the port of Victoria, British Columbia. On the 6th day of August, .v.d. 1880, wlulst I was on board and in command of the said SCI. inner, and she then being on a sealing expedition, and heing in latitude 55° 29' nor'- "" ' longitude 1G6° 1.5' west, and at a distance of about 00 miles from nearest land, the Uuiled States' Revenue-cutter " Richard Rush " overhauled the said schooner. f was first boarded by the First Lieutenant, who was armed, and who asked aio how many skins I had on board. I replied that he should find out himself, and said that if he wanted to see the schooner's papers T would show them to him, and would render hina assistance should he want to search the schooner for contraband goods ; hut [ would not acknowledge liis right to seize me for sealing on tiic high seas. The F'irst Lieutenant then returned to the cutter, and in a short time returned, accompanied by another boat of the cutter, which was in charge of the Second Lieutenant. Tliey both came on board, and the First Lieutenant demanded of me the surrender of the schooner, and asking ut the same time for the schooner's papers. This I at first declined to do, and the First Lieutenant said unless I gave the schooner's papers to him at once, he would take them by force. I then gave him the schooner's papers, consisting of r gistry, coasting licence, and clearance. The First Lieutenant then ordered both boats' crew to search the schooner, and they took from my schooner 333 sealskins, all in good order. He then asked tne if i would give him two sacks of salt. I told him that it would be useless for mc to refuse, as he could take them by force, so I told him to go ahead and help himself. He then gave nie two letters, the contents of which were unknown to me at the time, one of them being sealed, and the contents of which is still unknown to me, the other certifying that he had seized the schooner "Lily" for violatiovi of the United States' laws, and taken possession of the schooner's papers. He then told me to proceed to Sitka, Alaska. I asked him if he wanted me to go to Victoria or Sitka, Alaska ; to which he replied that he had nothing to say, but had simply told me his ordei j. My crew at this time consisted of a mate, George McDonald, and three white men and twenty-five Indian hunters. The Indian hunters said they would not proceed to Sitka, and, to avoid further [128] 2 U W'l :\:i\) II2( H ;l (hmiIiIo. I (liiMM'ti'il «lii' «i'liimni'i'n (iiimmi> Ioc '.icldi'lii, nml iiiirnMl iirn! (lie l«l ilnv nl Hi'|ilrnilu'i. Ill 7 n'cldik I'M. Ami I nii\l(i' (liifi shIimihi (Irclmntiim, < i>!'.?»rici (iiiiisly liclinviiiu Mio sntiio In lie t •>ml I'v vitlMc III "The OmIIi ni.iiiiMMci-. IHiMI." (SiKiHMJ) .l(»l!N IlKIMA- lU'rlairil n\ ihv citv ol Viclorin. HiiliHh Ctilnmltiii. lliin lllli diiy (if Hi'|iloiiili(!i, IMHII, l»('(o>r inc. (SifvunH .1. \V. Siiivrnni.T, .^(v/((■(■ (i/^/h /'('(((•<'. I luMi'liv miiKc oiilh Hull llic uliovc ili't'liirulinii it line m liir mh I ininw nl. (Si.vnr.l) (iKOHCil', Mi'DONM,!) DtM'liiicil III llio cilv III' Nicliiviii. Hiili«li < 'olmiiirm, (lim IKli ihiy ■ '' Mciilcinlicr. Ishu, |l>-|(IH' IIU". (Siftii;,!) .1. NV. Siiirriiiti.r. ./i(v/fic ()/ //ic /Viii7>. Iiulimmc 10 ill No. 'Jim. Ci'tliticolr 1)1' N'('»?«|P. l':iilPil Sliili's' lii'ii'iiui'iutli') " h'lisli," Hi'lnhufs Srii, /,.!/. .'■i,V'-2!» A'.. /,.i/ii/, Kii;" l.V (I'., .Iiujiisl (I. iwmi. To viiom il iiiiiv iMiu'i'in. Tills will ii'itifv timi I liiivi< litis iliiy biMKciI Ilir Hiilisii si-Iuhhum " liily," ol Viclniin, Uiiliuli « "olninl'ia, .'dim Ucilly, nuislcr, I'ov violiilinn nl liiw (scclioii \\\t>i- UcvIhi'iI Sliiliii(";), jiiiil laKiMi |iiissosHiim of lus xJiip'M piipiM'*, v\/., i't'rlilinil(> nl' rcniqliv, ciiiinliii!' lirciicr, jiinl «|0I1V«IUH>. (Si<;iinl) I,. (). SIIKI'AHI), r,,;,/,,,,,. fhtili>d tilah'H' Itfiwiniv Mnrinr. No. u;<8. (V/c.rt»(i/ Ojh'ir i« Forniji} Offirr.—ilii^vphril (hlnlirr '2^).) ^K\l^mM.^ Ihtintiiiij Slirrf, Ovtohrr 21', IMMIV WITH ivl'oivnoo 111 |nvvio\is rdm'spoiiiltMm' rcsiircliiii^ llic m<iznn> n! IliilJMJi vr^sd'. in nHniiis;'.* Son. I am tiiivi-liHl liy l.'Mii Kii\iIn('hI(1 to traiisiiiil lo yon, In lie jaiil li.'i.iii' the Mi»v«niis of Sali»l>.ny. i- ccpv of a iK"\|ial("li (idm llii> Oovcrnor-C JciuTaJ ol' ('iimiilii, inclosinu an approvoil Mnnilo ol ^us I'livy Comu-ii i<uliini(liiij^' a K('|uu'(, of llif MiiiistrT ol Mnvino and l-Nsliionos on 1h(> snlijool. liu-losuiv I in No, V'»H. J)r)uity-Oovrr»or tftv (I'. /v'lVf/iif to l.otd KniitsfniiL My \m\\. _ Oil. , wo. Sriilrmhr.- 2'\, INN!). Wll'U ivtmnuo to yonv l.onlsliip'.. U'io|;iain oi tin iNlli nlliino. .'^laliiij; lliiil llcr MaiostyV (.Mnormuont would bo in a ^ll•^mgot• po lion (or doaliiii( doliniloly willi Uoliiiiii;'s Sea oases il" the appoals on l^'^li soiznros woro punlu'd o\i, 1 liavo llio lunioiir lo liji'wjni hoix>\HUh a vNipy ol an approved Minuto o(' '.\w I'rivy {'ounoil. .snlnniltiiif; iv Itopuii nl llic Minisior ol Maiino ami l•"l^l>orie^ upon the «ul)joct. 1 have, &e. (Signed) W. .1, Itri'dlli:. U^' Inelasure 2 in No. 'J^H. Ueport of jj C'lrntnitt^r of thr llonournhh ihf Pririi Council, (ipprnri'il hj/ liis hh'crllfiicy the Govnnor'Gfiifral in Council, on llic Hi/// Scptriiilicr, INHI). 1 Mi. Conmilttec of the I'rivy Coniicil linve liad Uixler oonsidoratinn a cable despiitdi. dhXc\\ llio l>th August. l^SO. from Lord Knutsl'ord. iiitiniaiing that Her Majesty's fliiv.'Vtim' llclllill',^ Id c(iv : " llii'ie in H Tlie Hlllllllilu ill The I iH'ri'iil iiiiil ('()liiMi('«. /Ml wl 11 IK <l(",|Pii(('li (i-i riii4 ill ill n Ntroiii^e «('i/iirc<i \;'i'i' ili|iliiiiiiilli' I' il /mill (,|ic ' Tlie U iiliriidv liiiic li uill I till' I 'oloiMci. iT|iiviit.||(|iti(i l'('|IIIIMli(lM, II jiidiiial priici < 'iipir-H CilRCM oi' " ( IHH7.t III ; 1(1 ICI|I|Ch(, 1 1 lli'il llic llppt May, iHH7, •iiiiiiliir KiDUii now ill your AiiKiiciiii vci. tliiii (piiccDJ IcKal Triliiina " It mils iinly iiU'ccI til, llii" Aiiiciiciii) "Her all sue 'li|iiiiiniilic (Ji, Tile niik;. tlic United St vessels icf'errc liiosc of I ho I |irivate ownerf No Hllil i i'ic(|itiiiii of t III .liinuai " Onward," " nifssM^^e iindei I'poii Hi: Ml'. A. I.. Ikdj to tliciii, is api [128] (iiiv.iin'H'til (•■•■•-iiicifl IIimI it Wdiilfl lif in ii ^liiiiincr |iii«ili(in (oi dcdliii^ fjcfiiiifrly wiUi |l('lirii:f;''> S''M "nm-o i( ii)i|i('ii|q in |HM{J mT/iirtN wi'ic |iii«IiimI km, niid tlii! ilc«|iiiti|i ifot'i on Id ciiv : " h i« Vfiv iMiiiHiiiil In iircm fill (li(il'»iiiiilj(' i'f'(li('«<« Ciir ii (irivnic wforiK (is Idiitt n* tlicrc i« H iiMimiMiilili' iliiiiici' III iililiiiiiiii^ il liiiin till' 'I'iiliitniil4 'iCllir ((iimlry-" The Ministi'i' III MiiMiii imil I'lslii'iif", In wlniin I lie ciiliji' ilcfiKilili wim rflcrrf!'), Riiiiiiiilu (lie imiicyi'il Hr|iipi'(, in wliirli llir ( 'iiiniiiittci' cdiinir. Till- ( 'niimiillf'i' iii'iitiiMici '1 tliiil yiiiic Isxti'lifii y lie iiinvcfl In (iirwiird fi ciipy licri'iir iKiil lilt' iiniM'xi'd |iii)iiTH 1 llic l(ii;lil I liitiiiiiiiililc (lie Hi'iiri'liiry (if Sl»it»' lor Uin (l()lipiiii'« All wliitili ii M'H|M'rllnlly Hiilimilltd Inr v'Mir KxtTliriicy'B ii|i|ir'iviil. (KiRii.'d) .»/)IIN ,;. Mriim. Clfrh, I'livii ('iiuniil. Iliclosiil'c M ill Nil. 'A:\H. Ml. 'Vupjiir III Ihi' 1 Ini'i'i iini-l h'lii'iiii in f'fiiiiiill. Olliiwii, Nfiilfiiihr, 'I, )Hk<l. rill') I lMil('iii)^iH'd liim llif lidiMiiir In ii|i(iil llml, lie liim liml lif IViri; liiiii ii chIiIh l|('^|lnll'll IViiiii liiiid KiMitRrnid to yniii I'lscflli-iicv, diilid llio IHUi Ai/jjint, iHHU. 'I'liiM ili'H|iiili!li iiil.iiiiiil("» llml Hit M;ijcst,v'x f fnvcrii'iiMii' rnrmidci'! tliiil it /.'(nild lii> ill (I Mlmnj'rr |ii'«iliiiii (iir d(illill^' d<;(iiiilily 'vi'li lifliiliif^*-; Sci cmsis if ii|i[,r;d-; in mxfi uri/iirci \.iir |Mmlii'il nil. 'I'l > (li'S)iMtcli yiifq nii In miy ; " Il i*; viy iiliiiminl In (iic*-; for (li|i|iiiiiiilii' i'imIipu'i Inr II (iriviilf' wi'int< n't Iniii.; iih tlicic U a ic(moiiiil/l(! cIkhici; of o'(lniiiini< il liniii the 'riiliiiiiiilo of tilt! coiinliy.'' 'riio DiidciMiciH'd di'Rii'i"* lo cull iitt'iil.inii to miiiii! of tlic corrciiioiidi iiri' vlii'li li«t llilClldy llliu'll |i|llrr ll|inli tlii'i ^iiIiJimI, li \\ill III' MTollri'lrd lliiil ill Jit',' |HK(' llir Mii|i-:ty'-» I'l iiiripid Sen' birv o( Stiili; for llii' ('(ilniiicM I'xpn'HKri,' \.\w ijisiic nl tlic Mmijiih of SuliHiiiiry tli;it. Iiiforc iiriv f'lifllirr ic|i(rHi'ii(iitin!m (III' Mil dc In llin Uiiiird Sluti s' ( lovcriifiiciif. with ti view Ui r«!ifairiiri;{ ir|iiirii(iiiM, Hint Hit M,<ir«l,y'« OnviTinm iit, I'lOiild hf in [iosRCi<sion of t.hi rrf oid of tti'; luiliriid iirnri'cdiiit^s in Ilir DiHtri'l ( oiict in Alii«l<ii.* rojiJi'H III ici'iihIm in Uiiili'd Hinlcy' Distrii't, ('oiirt for tli<' Dint.rif:*. of Alsckii iri Uu; (•ll^(•^ of "OnvMiid," " (/'iiinlciiii," mid " 'I'liornt.on " wnri; duly forwurdcd in AiiL^iwt 1HH7.I In iirltiinwli'ilKin|.< tli"ir n'i:.'i|il, Uii' M.;n|iii<» of HidiRlinry «aid : " I Imvc InrtlifT III ii'ijurHl. tliiil. yon will rndi'Hvnin lo imi'crtiiin and rciiort, to in'' wlicn d h prot(atil« llml till' u|i|mi(iIh ri'lrnrd lo in your drmiali^licH of Uir. '2nd A|»iil, i'^HJ, hu'\ of ttii; 'itti .\liiy, tHH7, rrn|ii'nlivrly, of Hi'' iiwiiitk of IIk^ Anii'iican H!ii|i« '.vliirli •Afrr. ««;i/.<;rl on "iiiniliir ^riiunilH, will (!onii! on for hiMirinf;, and wlif.tlinr any arrani<i!(ii«wil iia^ l;c'\n or can iiow in your o|ii;iioii advaiit(i;.o'oimly lie niadn lulwocn lln; owikuh of llif liriliHh and AiiuricMii voRHi'lt on tlic one nidi! and tlio (fovrrnnicnl of llio (inil.<!d HfaN's on tli'i ol.h^r, lliiu (Pill' id' lln'Hi' cimrH Hliniild lir regarded as a \cM, t:;i<<i', liy wliirli, in no far >-;^ the. .'Xni'rioin IfKid 'I'rilMinalM arn (Mincci'mul, tin; ri'inainin^^ ranos inif^lil lie ludd lo hv. cori'dnd'id. " II miisl, liowcviT, III' clearly nndeiHtood Unit any kikIi airanijcnient, if ni/ide, '^ouUI iinly HU'eel tJie le^al renieilics wliieli were ojien to llie rnaslers (ind O'a ner* '>f tiie'V vch^pIs in llic AiiieiiiMiii (liinrlH, iinil would in no dej^iee liinil llii' rii^litof' Her Majesty'^ f iovfirnrnent, allcr nil aueli legni reniedies were eonsidi^ied to lie exliaiist^d, to in»erv.jrie liirout^h ili|i|ipiiiiili(' eliannrlH iind on inlernatioind i^ropinds on l)';li;df of sneli masters or owiier<.'' 'llic ,sii^-;;'j;,l,ion, that Ihc United Stales •ilinnjil a^rrcc 'ji a t(;st r.iM: for uifi riHsiofi to till' United StafcB' .Su|ireine Cnnrt, wan never acted upon. Ttie (a.^^H of tlic Unilwl States' vcsKcJN lei'ern.'d to in tliiw (leH|iat(;li as \viv'iu(^ liecn seized under circninHtanwis sifnilar to lliose of the UritJHh veoHcIs were di.seoritiinicd hy conwjnt of Counsel reprcrKjntini; noth |irivnt(' ownerH and the United Stiite^' (/nv(;rnniont. No Huit in, therefore, now |iendinf( heliire the TribiifKtl.H of the United States, with the ixccption of the ease of the " VV. I". Sayw/ird," a Uritisli sliip, a^ iicreinalt- r ex()Uiiied. In .lainiury 18H7, it appears the anthoriticn in \V'a.siiin;;ton direetcl the reie<i-ie of the "Onward,"' " (!ur<)lena," and "Thornton," the 1886 scizure.s referred to in tiie cable iiicssai^e undiT ('(inRideralion. Upon this .suhjcct hii (extract from a lett.or, dated the 17th .Xumist, ISSfi, from Mr. A. |j. IJelyen, Attorney for the ownei's ol the vessels ahovc referred to, artd addrcaie-J to tliRin, iH appended to this Keport.:( [128] • Sir M llollaii'l. .July U, llST. t Ttie M«rqui« of Hilisbury lo Sir I,. West, .\ugHit iO, ISS" I A|>p«ndix (A). m II it' ■2 U .•}32 In the year 1888, the Canadian Govenimciit liaving inquin^d whether tlie vcssgIh seized could l)e honded witiiout iii)poi?iii{{ on the owners tiio obiigiition to appeal, correspondence took place between the Jiritisli and the United States' authorities, and upon the 21st day of June a Conlidential despatch was received by Lord Stanley tVom Lord Knutsfbrd, inclosing a Menioraiiduui, dated the 'JStli Ma\, 1»8H, which Sir L. S. West had received. This Menioranduni is as follows: — " Memorandum. " In the eases of the condemned I5eluiii!j;'s Sea vessels iiiid their eari;oes, it appiars that the Proctor for some (and possilily ail) of the British sealers failed to take an appeal from the Decrees of ( 'ondcmnation entered by the District Court at Sitka. Coiisetiueiitly, they have lost the benefit of the Attorney-fjeneral's Order perniittini; release of the property on bond pendint;' decision of the appeals, and, as the Decrees have become final, have no other than a <liploniatic remedy.'' it would, therefoio, appear that llcr Majesty's (iovernnient were advised in 18J*8 that no apjical could be taken in the matter of the seizures of INSC. One vessel only of all those seized in the dilferent years was released upon a lioiiil ol' security for costs of an ajipeal bein!; ;;iven, viz., the " W. I'. Sayward," the cireiiai- stances attending which transactii)n are oxpiained in Appendix (li). The United States' Marshal at Sitka was directed to take the remaining schooners (at that time in possession of the United States' authorities, viz., the "Grace," "Dolphin," "Anna IJcek," and " Ada") to Ikiget Sound for immediate sale. The owners of the " Anna Reck," '■ Cracc," and " Dolphin," seized in 1887, hnvinsj been refnsed leave to appeal, |)Lrmission wiis asked for bonding tluiir vessels at appraised value, and to have the sale then about to take place postponed pending the settlement of the (juestiou. After representation Imd beei-. .leeordingiy made, Mr. Hayard informed Sir L. S. M'esi that the Acting Attorney-Genii a! had directed the jjostponenient of the sale, and had instructed the United States' Marshal to receive bcnids in lieu of the vessel. Mr. Bayard subsequently inclosed, under cover to Sir L. S. West, letters from the United States" Marshal for the District of Alaska, in which he reported that the original appraisement of these vessels was excessive, and thai the value had still further deteriorated in eonseciucnce of the climate of Alaska. For these reasons the owners of all these vessels, with the exception of the owners of the "Anna Heck," refused to bond them at the old appraisement. The owner ot tlie '■ Anna I'.eek ' alone was willing (o give a bond at the original ap[)raisement. subject to a final settlen.ent of the matter without necessitating an appeal to the Supreme Court of the United States. Accordingly, the Government ofCanacia recpiesled tlie British (iovcrntnent to move the United States' authorities to authorize the i'ea|)praisement in the cases of the " Grace " and " Dolphin," and to sanction the bonding of the " Anna Beck " in the manner proposed. After much delay, it was intimated that tin. ale of these vessels woidd be prceodcd with, and a reappraisement and bonding as above would not be sanctioned by the I tilted States' authorities. From the correspondence herein reviewed, it will thus be seen that the only ajjjjeal m the Canadian case from the Judgment of the Court of First Instance which has been preferred is in the ease of the " \V. P. Sayward," seized in 18^7. This case has been duly inscribed in the Supreme Court of the United States for nearly a year, and, on incjuiry, the Undersigned learns that it will not be reached in its turn for argument for another year ti'om this date. It further a])pears that the suits regarding the United States' vessels seized under similar cirenmsfanees have been discon- tinued ; that no test ease was ever agreed upon ; and that the United States' Government w )uld not sanction the release ami bonding of the seized vessels pending a settlement of the question. The owners of tin; " W. P. Sayward " having to await the almost endless delays attending the arguments and decision of a case in the Sui)reine Court o( the United States, the question whether an ajipeal lie. in such a case being also involved, and the administra- tion of that country evincing no desire to reach an early decision in their A|)pellate Court upon the cjuestion at issue, the Undersigned liope> that Her Majesty's Government will not consider that the just demae.ds ot the Canadian Gavernmenf should not be pressed until the case of the " W, P. Sayward " is disposed of. The decision of the Court in the District of Alaska in the ease of the " Dol|)liin," a case similar to all of the rest, proceeded upon the one ground, viz., that Behring's Sea viai 833 ceded to the United States by lluasia, and tliut tlie title in Ilubsia at that time was exclusive* It will be observed that none ot' the seizures in Behring's Sea forming; the subject of covropondeuee between Iler Mnjesty's Government und that of the United States involve the investiiiiition of coniplieatcii facts. Tl.ere is no |)retension tliat any v(!S8el seized was witiiin the 3-niile or territorial limit. The sole question is the claim of the United States to the exclusive control uvcv I hat jjarL of the North Pacific Ocean known as the Behring's Sea. Tne Undersigiu.il submits tliat the fact that Russia once raised the same point does not cstublisii on the |)art of the United States even ii priinti fricin ease, especially in view of flic attitudi" ol'thc latter country when such a claim was put forward by R,U88ia. So lonjj; af^o as July 188s, tbi' views of the Canadian Government refliardinj; the jiiopricty of owners of seized vessels assuming the obligation and responsibility of impealing from the decision ot tlu- District Cuuit of Alaska were communicated to the Rii!lit llono'.irahle the Secretary of State for the Colonies. The llejiort of that date dealt with a despatch of the 9th March, 1888, from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington, relative to the then pending proceedings in the cases of the Canadian sealers seized in liiehrin^'s Sea. The Committee deemed the ebliiiation soufiht to be imposed upon the owners of Canadian vessels seized in the Behrinu's Sea of apjiealiiif; from the decision of the Magis- trate at Sitha was "obviously one whicii cannot with justice or ))ropriety be enforced." The Ue])orf went on to say that " some doubts exist as to the right of appeal ; and if it should he held that no a|)pea! will he. the bonds will be forfeited. Apart from this risk, however, which the owners of tiie vessels are asked to take upon themselves, it appears that the giving of bonds of such a nature would involve the admission that the Courts of the United States had jurisdiction in regard to the seizures, and that the LawB of the United States applied in the cases of these vessels. Such propositions could by no means be admitted. The vessels had not entered within the waters over which the Laws of the United States extend, and over which the llxeeutive or Judiciary of that country hiive any authority. "The vessels in cpieslion were molested in their lawful occupation on the higli seas, and were seized by ves-cls in the service of the United States, but [)ossessing no right whatever to molest the peojlc of Canada or their property on the ocean. "Similar outrages have been committed in tlie preceding year, and the vessels seised then were ordered to be surrendjred by the United States' authorities. In the present cases, therefore, the repetition of such acts of violence was a [jrocecding for which the owners of the vessels liavc the right to expect that Her Majesty's Government will demand and exact ledress. 'Jhey should not be asked to seek that redress in the Courts of any foreign country whatever: tiieCotnts of llie United States have no more cognizance of their complaint than the Court of any other toniign countrs." The Undersigned is not aware that Iler Majesty's (Jovernment at any time previous to the cable message now under consideration intimated that tlie above ground was not well taken. On the contrary, previous to the receipt of this cable message the particulars of every seizure had been furnished by the Canadian Government to Her Majesty's Govern- ment, the opinion of the Law Officers of the Crown had been obtained by Her Majesty's (lovernment, advising that the claims coidd be pressed, and the Martjuis of Salisbury had III a despatch of the 1 0th Se|itember, 1S><7, to Sir L. S. West, dealt fully with the claim Ncl up hy tin- Administration of the United States in connection with these seizures, in which lie stated: " Ih r Majesty's Government have carefully considered the transcript record of the Judicial prnceedmgs iri the United States' District Court in the sevetal cases ot the schooners ' tJarolena,' 'Onward,' and ' 'J'iiornton,' which were comnmnicated to yon in Jidy, and were transmittcfi to me in your des|)atch of the \'2t\\ of that month, and they cannot find in them any justification lor the condenmation of these vessels." It is to i)e remembered that these are the seizures of 1886, to which the cable message has special relerence. 'i lie following vessels, while pursuing their lawful occu|)ation in the North Pacific Ocean, have been wantonly seized and molested hy Revenue-enttcrs of the United States : "Caroleua," 'Jiid August, lss(; ; " Onward," I'nd August, isy6 ; " Thornton," 2nd Auguit, ISBO; " W. P. Savward," !)th Julv, 1^8^; " Dolpliin," 12th Julv, 1887; "Anna Beck," 'iiid Julv, 1887; ""Grace," J7tli" JuK, 1887; "'Ada," 'JOth AuLMist, 1nS7 ; "Alf'red Adunis." (ith August, 1887 (escaped)"; " Ulack Diamond," 11th Julv, 188!) (escaped); " Pathfinder," 27th August, I88f): "Minnie," I'lth July, 188U; besides the "Favorite," * .See Ke|)ort, Governor ot AluBliu, J S« 7. U-st' i ii;^ W il' ' wiuMcd oil" iM\(l(T y\\\v\\i. t»r m>i/.inv. 'Jiid AiiiausI, IMH(}; mimI tlio "'l'rinni|>li." Hcintiii'il mil July. iNS'.t. In I'vciy iiisluiu'c, us iiliciidy hIuIciI, tlic ('iiiiinliiiii (i!iivi'i'iimt'nl lint pl.icfil lli'r Miij(iHly'M (iiiv(M'nuiiM\l |in)ni|)lly in |ioHMi<s><ion ol tlio inloi'iiiiitioii in ils |iiiHm<HMi()ii, mid i| \» willi tnucli ri'grcl lluil, iil I his (iitlc, wlicn llui |i(<i'iti(l I'nr ii|i|iciilin}; Iiuh lotif; n\\\n> CN|iiiO(l in (III' cMsf dl" (lie sci/nrcs nt |HS(!, I lie UntlciHii^ni'il Ictnii'^ llial any Ini'lhrr hIc|i, •,\\v consiiltMi'il noccssMi'v to slrcnullu'n (lie tlcniinnl nimic in IHMf» n|iiin llir Unilcd SluUs' Otivnnnionl. twow i's|HH'iidiv in vii-w (irslniiiin' (inlrn,«;<''< now licini;' daily |>('i'|ii'lir'i'd. Will) dolcriMU'c, tlio llndcrsii^ncd Inrllicr Hid)inilM that lli(> inlinuition in tia> ciilili' dcs|iitti<l\ aliovc nii'nlii>i\(Mi in Nonicwiiat nnnnnal nndcr tln< I'ii'cntnslancoN wlii(!li al.tcnilcil tin- si'i/nrc oftlu' .sIm|is in (|n(>Hlion. If'tlu' allc.ucd ii\i'iiu'ti(in ol' llir Laws ol' (lie Unilcd SlatcH Imd (khmii'itiI in the wntcn* over wliiili lliat count ly is or was rnlillt'd lo oxi'iriM' jnrisdiction, llio Coin'ts of the Unitnl Stales I'onid with iiropricly lu' lirst it'soriiMl in hcrorc prcssinu; any claim for llni innncdiiili' nttotdion of the Kvccntivc. In view of the lirnmess with whicli the riitiitsof nriliMJi snhjecls on tlu! Inu;h seas imvi; hern maintained in the pust. the l'ndeisii;ned fails to appreciate not inertdy any rtMisun liir tile lonj; dt>lay in ohtainini; salisliu'lion from (he au;;;rcssive and hostile action excrcisnl ajjainsf Hrilish sniijcets and Urilish pi-operty hy the United Siat<>s, hut, also for the wiuilon ooiitii\iniue(> of this treatment from wlneh so nnieli direct and indircel damage and loss in sustained hyinieof Her Majesty's Coliaiial I'osscssions. Moreover, the Undersif^ncil wtiiild call altentii)\i to the immiiu-nt dani:;er of loss of life, nol lo Hiieak of the plivsical si pliys Icrilli; alix'udy sustained, since it rcipiirc; no aryiumeni to show that the lawless violciU'(^ on lln' part of the l<evi>nne eulters ol' the ilnlled Slates' ( iovernmeni may at any time lend In toii-ihie resistance from the crews of Ihilish vessels heiuL; pursued and molested in llicir lawful pursuits. The l'ndersii,'nt>d, theivlore. reconnncnds that his Excellency l.ho (iovoriioi'-ticMinil he nu)\('d lo aci|ii:rmt the l{i;;hl lloiMairalile the Secretary of Slate for the Colonies wiih these views, and to urije thai no t'nrther time he pciinillcd to elapse without sccurini; lin' Ih'itish sulijci'ls in Canada the same Ireedoin in the nnvi^aliiai ami enjoyment nlllu' waters of tin- Melii'in!;'s "^ 'a wdnch the I'mled .Slates claimed for the seamen nl' nil nations whon the territory adjaeeut to that part ol the I'aeilie Oeeun helonged to the Kmpirc of Uussia. Hespeettuilv sid)mitt( (Sij-ned) CIIAIJI.KS II. TUI'I'KK, MInlstrr nf Miirliir and I'lslirr ■(■ \t Appendix (A). Ite lir!iriii()'.-< Srti Srltiiirn, To Captain .lohn (i. Co\ and William Munsie. l';s(|.. \ ictoria. Iliitisli ('(dnmhia. Gontlemen. Virloria, AikjusI 17, IMS!). In lefncnee to t!ie orders issued hy the United States' («ov<'rnment for llu! .rel<';isi' of the Mritish schooners " CaiMlena." "Onward," anil " Thornlon," sci/ed in Heiiriic^'s Sea in ISSli, ami since detained at Oimalaska, I icceived in Aui;n-.| last from the United States' Marsii.d. Atkins, of Alaska, the followini; letters : — "A. I,. lUdyoa. Msii., Victoria. •• nisi lift of AldsLd, Offirr of I'liilrd Slalrs' Miiislml, " Hear Sir, '■ Slllai^ Aiii/i'isl I, IN8N. " In reph to your letter of the I7th.liilv. ! iiavi- tiic honour to state that in the month of Fehruary ISs7 the ollieers of the District Court ot this district reccivd a despatch purportiuir to he from the United States' Attorney-Cieneral, dircctiiifj; the release of the schooners ' Onward.' ' Thornton,' and ' Carolena,' but, on what was then deemed sutticient evidence, the despat'di was tlionj:ht to he a foriiery, and no action was taken ill the matter until the receipt in Octoher last of another despatch from the Honourable Attornev (.i neiii, as tollows; — •"Let the vessels " Carolena," "Onward," and "Thornton" be released, as ordered in mine of the Otli .January last.' " On the receipt of the above despatch I gave notice thereof to Captain J. D. Wurrcn I "liurloii Atkii aaft nnd to Mr. C, Spring, of Violoriii, owncrH (if two dl the mmhcIk, miil hIiouIiI liavo j<ivcii liko notice lo tlx' tiwnrr i>r llic ' C'liroli'iiii ' liiul I kimwii IiIh ndiiicss and iiiiiiii'. I n'i|ii('st.(!(l Ciiplniii Wuircn lo milil'y nil owner* nl Vicloiin. iniil Mr. Sprint; pnhliHiieil (he iintieo I mx\v liini in tlir Vielnriii piiprrn. 'I'liiN I (leenieii Niilli<'ienl notice to nil t.li(^ pnrlien coiieerncd. I liuvc not received nny order Iroin VViiHliin^lnii oilier Ihnnnliovc ntenlioned. " Very rcHpeeHnlly, (Signed) "ItvirroN Aikinh, " I'liilril Slntrs' Miirsliiil." '{"lie loll(iwiii);C •'••|>y ol llic <leNpnl('li rcfeircMl lo in MnrHliid Alknis' lelt('r, and of t.lie order inndc thereon Uy .Fndfre Duvvhoii, of llie Uniled Sinter' DiHiricl. Conrt, Alnnlui, I obliiiiu'd siiorlly nftt'rwnrdH liorn llie ullieinl n^eorcU nl. Silkn : — "To-Iudge Lit Fnyelle DuwMon luid M. I). Itnll, "llniled SliileH' DiHiriel. Altorney, Sillui, AlnHkn, " fytisliiiii/liiii, .linniiin/ '2'(, IHH7. " I inn directed l>y tiie I'residenl lo iimlrnct, yon lo diHconlinnt^ nny (urlJier pro- (Ti'ilingH in tlic innller of the sei/nre oC llie I'rilisii vchhi-Ih ' ('nridenn,' ' Onwnrd,' und 'Tliornlon,' nnd dischnrKc all vessels now held nnili'r sneli Kci/.nre, and release all |u:rMonH tliiit may la- und(a' arrrHl, in (lonncelion Iheruwilli. (Si^;ned) "A. If, ('>\\i\,Asi), Alldiiifij-flrnirnU' lliat in the rcceiviMl a 1 the release len (Icunicd vas taken in Honourable as ordered . D. Warren ] " (!n/ii/ of Orilt-r, "To Hiirlon Atkinw, United Statew' Marshal (or " District of AlaHku. "You arc h<M'eliy dir(;cfcd lo rele.iM! Ih<! vchhcIh ' (!nrr)lcnn,' 'Onwnrd,' nnd 'Tliornlon,' nnd 'San l)i<'go,' which were sei/ed in IJehrinK'H Sea for violation of H'rtiim I'jrili llniled SlafcH' Slafutew, to^'elher with their tackle, apparel, skitiH, Kuim, imununition, small hoalH, and everything perlaininv to said vesseh:. "ThiH lOlh day of Fehnniry, IHS7. (Signed) " F-A {'"Avi'.rrr. Dawson, Dixlrirl Jmli/r, " IHslilil of Alaska.'" Ahont the time I received tlu! ahjve Iclli r I nut tla; Mnrshnl in IImh city, and asked liini why no ()fli(;ial notice of the release of these schooners had heeii given lo the owrmrs. In rrply, he said la^ thoiii;hl it had h.ien done, hiil il not he would attend to tin; mailer on his return to Sitka. Such notice not coniinj; lo hand as cxjicclcd, I, on the IHth Ortolicr following', wrote the Mursliul as follws: — "Ikrion AtkinH, Ks(|., United Stat(;s' Mursl'.d, "Sitkii, Alaska. I "My dear Sir, " Victnria, lirllixh. (Jolomhia, Orlolmr ]l,, \HHH. "You naiy renienda'r a conversation I had with you when in Victoria in rcfercnei? to I the iU)n-rcceipt of ollicial nolictr of the release ,)f the Hchonner ' Oarolcna ' at Ounalaska I liy l:er owners. At their rccpiest I havit to ask that you will kindly forward the same lo inu by return mail. 'I'hi^ owners, as you may notu;i; on relerriii'.^ to the records of" the (ourt, are Munsie and Co. (Munsie und (!o.) ol'this eity. " I am, &e. (Signed) " A. L. Hki.yka, " Atforitry for Mnnsie and Co." By return mail 1 reeeived from the Marshal a letter, sayin;^ that official notice had Ibeen sent to tlie owners of the "Carolena," with an (aiUrr direclitr.' llio Deputy Collector latOunalaska to deliver the vessel to the owners, which notice and order are to he found Ion pp. 7 and 8 of Mr. Milne's staleim iit. Thus it was that not till nr-irly two years aiter Ithe Wnsbington authorities ordered the release of this vessel, anrl then oidy after a-kincj for lit was sueh notice reeeived; nnd to this day the owners of the "Thornton" and rOnward" have reeeived no such ofheial ncjtiee or order for delivery, and could not, if |lky so desired, obtain possession of their vessels. The telegram ordering the release was received at Sitka on the 0th February, 1888. tie vessels were then under order for sale, which order Judfre Dawson immediately m ■i 1 p ■.Ki dad revoked, and on the 19tli of same month made the order for tlie release above recited, T!jis order was given to tlie Marslial, Imt for tin- reasons apparently mentioned in the Marshal's letter to me of the 4lh Aiii,'u.st, 1S8S, the matter droppi'd. The oltieials at Sitka took no steps to find out wlu'tlu'r tlic telegram was i;ciuiiiiu nr not, nor did they, so far as [ can learn, ever acknowlcdm' oi' notify the Wasiiiiiijtiiii auiiiv)rities of its rceeipt. 'I'hii* shutllini; on tli'j part of tin; Court Secretary calls " some misconception and mistake," hut those who know an 1 luive felt the power oi' the Aliskii Connnercinl Company in Alaska call it a vastly dillbrent, name. Appcridix (B). Extract of n Lrtter f'mvi ^fr. A. L. lirli/ed to tlir Di'piitii Mlniflcr nf Fislipriv.s, Moj/ '■I'.i, ^HHH. '• Tlie [the owner] had frono to Sitka to secure, if possible, the release o( all tlii' schooners seized in 1887, viz.. the " Grace," " iJolphin," "Anna Beck," " W. P. Say. ward," and " Ada." The bond on release was conditioned on prosecuting an appeal from the Alaska District Court In tlie Supreme Court oi' the United States. 'I'he formal motion thus became one for . ave to perieet an appeal, and such motion for each of the vessels was made on the Htli April last be(br(! Jud{j;e IJawson at Sitka, and in every case refused, on the grounds that the time for allowing an a|)peal had expired. Captain Warner's Counsel then applied for a VPt'ord of the order refusinu; leave to appeal. This was on Saturday. On Monday following. .April tin; Kith, without any a|)plieation therefor by the defendant or any one on his behalf, .ludge Dawson oil'ered to rescind the order of Saturday in the ease of the " W. !'. Sayward," and release her to the owners. She was then lyini^ at Puget Sound, under an order far aide on that day. The otler was accepted (contrary, as Captain ^^' irren says, to the expectation of the United States' authorities at Sitka), and the order of the previous Saturday iscinded, and leavo granted to ap|)eal. 1 am not informed as to the amount of the bund. Appendix (B 2), [This lit identic witli Appendix (A) from Mr. Atkins' letter of August 4, 1888, to the end.] No. 239. Afr. Kdwardp.s to tlw Marijiils of S(ilisliin-i/, — [lirveived Or.toher ii8.) My Lord, Wasliiiujton, October i), IShiO. WITH reference to the (jnestion of appeals filed in the Supreme Court by owners of scalers in jk'hring's Sea, of which up to now it has ben believed that there were none but the case of the " ' W. P. Say ward ' j;. the United States," I have the honour to inclose a co|)y of a xMemorandum whieli I liave received (rom Mr. Calderon Carlisle on the subject of an appeal, vi/., "The schooner 'Sylvia Handy ' r. the United States," which, it ap|)ears, had eseajied the notice of even the Clerk of the Court, in spite of the many a|)plieations which have of late, under the direction of Her Majesty's Legation, been made. I shall not fail to secure copies of the record, should it bo printed. 1 have, &c. (Signed) li. G. LDWARDES. ; ' ■' ^ • Inclosure in No. 239, Meinorandu-n, as to the Case of the Schooner " Sylvia Handy" v. the United S<a<es.— (October Term, ISm, No. 6^3.) '11 IK Clerk of tlie Sii|HTme Court telephoned me yesterday that he had discovered the above iipi)oiir on the f'ockit of tiie Court, of wliieh he knew nothing on my last visit there. The record, whieh 1 have examined, is practically the same as that in the case of the "Sayward." It seems to have been tiled on the 16th June, 1888. Mr. McKenna, Meiiil)i'r of Congress from California, entered his appearance to secure the filing of the record, but the real Counsel in the case is Mr. Howell L. Powell, 207, Sansome Street, Sail Francisco, Culifornia. The Clerk's attention was called to this case by the visit of local Counsel yesterday, to leiuii the c'xi)cnse of priiitiiii; the record in the case. There is ineluded in the record a hriit for claimants, which discusses the pretensions of Russia in Behring's Sea. The schooner's -argo consisted of 1,079 skins, and the schooner and her cargo were appraised at 12,673-25 dollars. The schooner is described as of San Francisco, appears to be registered in the United States ; and there is a certificate of deposit of some of her papers with the United States' Consul at Victoria, British Columbia. The capture was made 17 miles from Cape Cheerful in 54° 12' north, 166° 60' west. The vessel was captured on the 2nd September, 1887, with forty-two unskinned seals on deck. (Signed) C. CARLISLE. Washington, October 1, 1889. No. 240. Mr, Edwardes to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received October 28.) My Lord, Washington, October 15, 1889. I HAD the honour to receive your Lordship's telegram of the 14tii instant, in which, with reference to my despatch of the 12th instant, you informed me that the unofficial assurance given to tier Majesty's Government by Mr. Bayard that no further seizure of British vessels in Behring's Sea should take place pending the discussion of the points at issue between Her Majesty's Government and that of the United States, which was referred to in your Lordship's despatch of the 2nd October, was the assurance which was given unofficially by the United States' Minister in London and also by Mr. Bayard to Sir L West in the month of April last year. With tiie view of removing any misconception on the part of Mr. Blaine owing to the reply I had given to his inquiry when reading your Lordship's above-mentioned despatch to him, that 1 believed the assurance referred to was given by Mr. Bayard in a letter addressed to Sir L. West, and that the letter would be found in the printed correspon- dence on the subject which was laid before Congress this year, I wrote to Mr. Blaine a letter, a copy of which I have the honour to inclose, in accordance with the information witli which your Lordshio did me the honour to furnish me in your telegram above referred to. I have, &c. (Signed) H. G. EDWARDES. 'W Inclosure in No. 240. Mr. Edwardes to Mr. Blaine. My dear Mr. Blaine, Tfashington, October 14, 1889. WHEN I had the honour to read to you on Saturday, the 12th instant, two despatches addressed to me by the Marquis of Salisbury on the subject of the seizures of Biitisii sealers in Behring's Sea, you inijuired of me, when I reached the passage which I runs as follows: "Mr. Briyaid did, indeed, communicate to us, unofficially, an assurance lliat no further seizures of this character should take place pending the discussion of the [128J 2 X 388 questions involved between the two Governments," if I eoiild tell you in what wny this ussiirimce was unollieially communicated to Her Majesty's (loveinnicnt. I replied that I believed it had been so commuuioated in a letter addressed bv Mr. Bayard to Sir L. West, and that that letter would be found in the printed eorre- spondence on the subject laid before Congress this year. 1 iiave since learnt that the assurance which Lord Salisbury had in mind when writinfr the despatch I read was not that to which I referred in my reply to you, but wiis an assurance eonnnunicatcd unollieially to bis liordship by the United States' Minister in ]^)ndon and also by Mr. Bayard to Sir L. West in the month of April last year. I have, &c. (Signed) H. G. I-iDWARDKS. No. 241. i Foreiijn Office to Colonial Oj/ice. -■'■ ' ' Sir, Foreign Office, November 2, WHS). 1 HAVE laid before the Marquis of Salisbury Mr. Meade's three letters of tiie 24th ultimo, with their inclosurcs, relating to the question of the seizures of liritisli scaling-vosscls by the autiioritics of the United States in the waters of Behring's Sea. In reply, 1 am directed by his Lordship to request that you will state to Lord Knutsford that copies of all these papers will be forwarded at once to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington. 1 am to suggest that the Govenior-Gencral of Canada should be informed that Sir Julian Pauncefotc, before leaving for his post, wus instructed to take the earliest opportunity of discussing the (piostion with Mr. Blaine. Lord Salisbury proposes to await Sir Julian's Report before deciding as to what further stcjis should be taken in the matter. I am, &c. (Signed) T. 11. SANDEIISON. No. 242. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefotc. Sir, Foreign Office, Noiiemher 5, 1S8(). I HAN^l'l received Mr. lidwardcs' despatch of the IStii ultimo, forwarding co|)y ol the private letter wiiich be addressed to Mr. Blaine respecting the unoHicial assurance given to Her Majesty's Government that no further selviure of British vessels in Behriiii,''s Sea should take place pending the discussion of the points at issue between tiic two Governments. I have to inform you that. Mr. Eclwar ..' action in this matter is approved by Ikr Majesty's Government. 1 am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 243. Sir C. Lampson and Co. to Foreign Office.-— {Received November 7.) Dear Sir, " • ^^^ Queen Street, London, November 6, 1889. WE addressed Lord Iddesleigh on the 12tli November, 1886, on the subject of the Behring's Sea seal fishery. Since that time the number of sealing-vessels, mostly owned in British Coluuibia, has steadily increased, and this year, owing to the high pnces obtainable for the skins, as many as fifty schooners, some of them fitted with steam, and amply provided witii fire- arms, have been engaged in the capture of female seals. 339 It is estiiimtfd that their cntcli this seiison will amount to no \v,»» tlinn 10,000 skinn. This iiiimlier docs not inciudc! the many iniiuuiLs killed or mutilated, hut nnt rclrieved. Now, if tliis iudiscriminnte slniii!lit('r of female seals eannot he sU>])|ied, or i\l all fVt'iils rcstrielcd, hy some International Aijreetnent (as to a close time, for iiiHtanet;), the iiiiiiiiai will, Ix'fore many years are over, hecome extinct, and a hirf;c industry, in whit^h (iiciit Mritnin is deeply interested, will he lost. Already there ar(! umnistukalile sif^ns ihat the nuinher of seals annually visitin;^ tin; two hrcedinj,' islands in the Ik-hring's Sea is decreasinfj;, for from Reports hitely to liaiid, wc learn that the Superintendent on the islands, which are leased trom the United States' (loveinmcnt hy the Alaska Commercial (lompany of San Francisco, has this yiar found coMsiderahle ditliculty in ohtaining the usual quantity of dcsirahle mule seals, and esti- mates that tlu! herd has decreased fully one-third in the last ten years. In suhmitting these facts to you, wc would urge the importance of arriving at a speedy Bcttlcnjent of this (piestion hefore it is too late. We are, &e. •' ■ ' . " (Signed) C. M. LAMl'SON and Co. ..il C' ,..,„. ..V, .. , No. 244. Colonial Office to foreign OJfiec, — (Received November 8.) Sir, Downituj tilrcet, Novinibi'r H, 188!). I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to he laid helbre the Marcjuis of Sidishury, a copy of a despatch from the l)eputy-(iovernor of Canada rcilatin}^ to the question of the Hehrin^'s Sea sei/.ures, from which it a[)pears that the llii;li (yommis- fijoner for Canada is lo he instructed to place himself in connnuniciition with Her .Majesty's (Jovernnjenl, with the object of expediting a satisfactory settlement of the (general (juestion. 1 am, Ike, (Signed) .JOHN BHAMSTON. Inclosurc 1 in No. 244. Sir W. J. Ritchie to Lord Knutsford. ,\ly Lord, Ottawa, Ortohcr 2:^, ]Sf^9. I HAVIC tlic honour to forward herewith a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council, havinj; rctercnec to the course which the owners of British schooners seized in Behrin^'s Sea hy the United States' cutter "Rush" pn)pose<l to follow in the event of ('a|ttnin Shejipard's arriving at Victoria. Your Lordship will note the recommendation of the Minister of .Marine and I'islicrics, that the High Commissioner he instructed to place himself in pergonal communication with Her Majesty's Government, with the object of expediting a satisfactory settlement of the general question of seizures in Behring's Sea. 1 have, &c. (Signed) W. .T. RITCHIE, Deputy-Governor. Inclosurc 2 in No. 244. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency ^ ^ the Governor-General in Council on the \Hth Octooer, 1889. ON a Report, dated the I'ith October, l«89, fiom the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, stating that the following telegram has been received from Messi-.s. Carnie and Muiisie, of Victoria, liriiibh Columbia, on behalf of parties interested in the fur-seal I fisheries of Behring's Sea: — . .^,,,i, ...... j.. i., ., .., [126] ■ 2X2 m 340 " Cutter ' Rush * expected here. Owners of seized schooners tliink of holding Captain Sheppard to bnil in action lor damages. Wliat do you udvisu?" To which tiie Minister replied as follows ;— "Telei^ram yesterday received. Cannot advise under present circumstances, hut hln not anticipate any beneficial result from sucli a course." The Minister submits that, while his reply discouraged the action contemplated by tlic parties interested, it is quite competent for any British subject to institute such proeec(iin;,'8 under the ]^w of Canada. The Minister desires to reler to a new8|)aper cutting, herewith annexed, tuktti from the " Ottawa Citi/en," purporting to be a report of a reply by Ca|)tain Sheppard, of the United States' Revenue-cutter " Richard Rush," to an intjuiry whether he had any know- ledge of the intention indicated in tlie above tek'ijram. The Minister, with reference to the intbnnation supplied from time to time to the Imperial Government on the subjeet of the seizure of Hritish vessels in the liehring's Sea, and to tiic great national importance of tlie earliest possible settlement of the (piestion, owing not only to the eoiuiimation of the outrages during tlie past season by Uiiitcii States' Revenue-cutters, but to the growing doubt on the |)art of tin; Canadian people as to whether Her Majesty's Government will actively support the demands of the Dominion of Canada in consequence of the long delay which has taken place in arriving at a satis- factory adjustment of the question, recommends that the High Commissioner for CiiiiKJa m London be directed to place himself in personal eommunication with Her Majesty s Covernment, with the object of expediting in any way he may be able to do a speedy anil satisfactory settlement of the <iueslion. The Committee advise that your Excellency be moved to forward a copy of this Minute to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, and that a copy be also sent to the High Conunissioner for Canada. All which is respectfullv submitted for your l"> 'lency's approval. (Signed) .lOHN J. McCliK, Cleric, Privy Voitncil. Inelosure 3 in No. 244. Extract from the " Ollavd Citizen" of October 12, 1 889. Seattle, Washington, October 11, 188!). THR United States' Rcvenue-eutter " Rush " arrived here yesterday from Alaska. Lieutenant-Commander Sheppard was interviewed regarding rumours current here that British Columbians were lying in wait for him to punish him (or seizing their schooners. The Commander smiled, and said he had not heard of any such threats until he had reau tliem in the papers on his arrival at Fort Townsend. He said that he did not believe anything of the kind had been utiered, and the statement must have come from irrespon- sible })ersons. If there was any truth in it, and he could have been apprised of it in tinic, he would have steamed into \'ictoiia, and have shaken the American flag in the face of the Victorians. Hi- said he was on good terms personally with the prominent men in Victoria, anrl did not believe that any indignity to an American Government ship would be coun- tenanced by the peojile of Victoria. No. 245.^ Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received November 11.) My Lord, Washington, October '^l, ]889. I HAVE the honour to inclose herewith copies of an article which has appeared in a San Francisco newspaper on the subject of the seizures in Hehting's Sea, which maintains the exclusive jurisdiction of the United Stales in thai sea. The article is written by Mr. Fclton, one of the representatives for the State of California in Congress. An answer to this (copies inclosed) appeared in the New York "Evening Post," tin 341 author of which is Mr. Robert Uayncr, wlio lias already written a very ubic letter on this subject. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure I in No. 245. Extract from the "San Francisco Argonaut" of Aurjust 12, 1889. TlIK QtlKSTION OF BeHKTNO'S SkA. (By CImiles N. Fclton.) [The annexed nitjcic, by the ilonourablo CImiles N. Felton, Member of Congress, will hv found of much interest, [mrticularly at tiiJH time. Mr. Felton is thoroughly conversant with the subject, as he was ;> member of the Conference Committee between thu Senate and the Mouse which caused the parsaKe of the Bill amendatory of the Laws regulating the fur-seal tisheries in Behring's Sea. This Bill was passed durint; the closing hours of the Cleveland Administration. — Eiks.] IN view of the fact that the Government of the United States has seized the British sclioonci' " Black Diamond," confiscated the vessel and cargo, us rocjuired by our Statutes, for evasion or inlringenient of our laws, and that our right to do so is questioned, and pcilinps may beconie an international (juestion, it occurs to nic that a statement of the lac's upon which is based our rights and title would not be uninteresting to your readers; hence, I will attempt to give them such a statement. 'I'lic title of the United States to Alaska and the Uchring's Sea was nccjuircd from iiussia by the Treaty of Cession inndc in jSfiS, in which she "ceded and conveyed all the ri^lits, franchises, privileges now belonging to Russia in the ceded territory or dominion, ami appurtenances thereto ;" the same being contained within the geographical limits herein set forth, to wit : — "Th(! eastern limit is the line of demarcation between the Russian and BiiMsh pogses- fioiis in North America, &c. The western limit, within which the territories and dominion cnnvcyc'd are contained, pass through a point in Behring's Strait on the parallel of ()5° 3U' north latitude, at its intersection by the meridian which passes midway between the Island otKrusenstern or Ignalook and the Island of Ratmanov or No()narl)rook, and proceeds line n(<rtli, without limitation, into the same frozen ocean. The same western limit, hi':;iiiiiing at the same initial point, jiroceeds thence in a course nearly south-west through lii'hnnj:'s Strait and Beiiring's Son, so as to pass midway between the Island of Attoo and tin- (.'op|)er Island, of the Kormanciorski couplet or group, in the North Pacific Ocean, totlie meridian of H).T west longitude, so as to include the whole of the Aleutian Islands cast of that meridian." Russia's title was based upon the following facts ; — Bcluing's Sea, formerly called the Sea of Kamchatka, was discovered by Vitus Behring, )i lUissiaii subject and officer, in \72r). From that date to that of the purchase of Alaska In tiu' United Statis, its waters were surrounded by Russian territory, except Behring's Slniit upon the north, and the south-west outlet to the North Pacific Ocean. Soon after its discovery, it was occupied by Russian citizens as traders and fur-hunters, and several trading stations were established upon its coasts and islands by Russian subjects. In 174.'), the Aleutian Islands were discovered by Russia. In 1768, Behring's Sea, 1 the whole archipelngo, and the Peninsula of Alaska, were ex|)lored by an expedition ordered by the Empress Catherine. Subse(|ucntly, Russia caused four other expioririg expeditions to be nuide, in 178,'5, 1803, ISl.'J, aud 1826. Vancouver discovered the coast of IJritish Columbia in 1790, and in the same year the Columbia River was entered by Oray. It will be here noted that Russia's discoveries and titles on the north-western coast antedate those of the other nations some sixty-five years. In 1764, the Russian (iovernment granted the right to trade on the Aleutian Islau(i> [to a Russian Company, who created and conducted a considerable number of trading I stations. In I7'j9, the then Russian Emperor Paul issued his Imperial Ukase, asserting the loiinion of Russia, by right of discovery apd occupancy, to all the territory embraced * ti ,j . ),i-% wr^ 1 M:,} r'l from nolirin^''s Rtriiit on the north to the 5/ith pnrallel on the Anu-rican const, and imii,, south as Jii|iiin on the coast of Asia; anil iiivcsti'd tlii' lviis-,ian-Atnci'ican ('i)iniiiiiiy witi; its alisohitc condol, und, if necessary, tlio l^md and naval forces of the Pjinpiii' wort ordereri to niiiititnin their jurisdiction. To this linpi rial act no jirotcst was iiKidr .jn f|n, part ol' any ot the nations, ner were Russin's rights dis|niti'il or tinestioned. Tlnis (ncitlv, ut least, all tliu nations conce(i;>d her rights, l)ased (irsl upon discovery, and next iipo;, continned ocenpancy ar;,I pc.ii I'ui and undi<|nite(l poHses-;ion for nearly three-tpmitcrs of a centin\v. In i^'Jl, upon the <'oniplaint of titis Cunipany to the KiiS!<ian (iovcrninent lli;it ihtir rights under their Charter were hcing dislnrhcd by liio intirlerence of foreigners, the tlim Emperor Alcxandi r issued his Maniftsto, exleiiding his dominion to the r)lst parallel on tli( -North American coast, and prohihiting tbreiini vessels from npproachini; within 100 niik, of the shore. I quote from said Manifesto us follows : — " Section I . The transaction of commerce, und the pursuit of wimliitg and fishini^, or any other industry, on the islands, in the harhours and inlets, and, in gcnend, all ulon" the north-western coast of America, from Behring's Strait to the 51st jiarallel of northern latitude, and likewise on the .Aleutian Islands, and along the eastern coast of Sihcria, and on the Kurile Islands — that is, from l^ehring's Strait to the soutiieni promontory of the Island of Urup, viz., as far south as latitude 45° 50' north— arr exclusively reserved to suhjects of the llussian Empire. " Sec. -. Accordingly, no foreign vessel shall he allowed either to put to shore at anv of the coasts and islands under Russinn dominion, as 8|iecified in the preceding section, nr even to approach the same to within a distance of less than 100 Italian miles. Aiiv vessel contravening this provision shall be subject to confiscation with her whole cargo." To this I'dict, the Governments of the United States and Great Britain enteral protest, in so far as it extended the dominion of Russia 4'^ .south, and to the lOO-mil, limit. Mr. Ailams, then Secretary of State, conceded the houndary named in the ('iiarlcr to the Uussian-American Company, viz., to the 55th parallel on the coast of the North Pacific Ocean, hut resisted the claim of Russia to the coast between the .'Jlst and .")5tli jiarallels north, also the exclusion of American shijis from the North Pacific Ocean, stating that " with the Russian Settlements ut Kodiac, or at Sitka, the United States ma\ fairly claim the advantage of a free trade, having so long enjoyed it unmolested, anil because it has been, and would continue to be, as advantageous to those Settlements ns to them." Mr. Adams also said, " It may suffice to say that the distance from shore to shore of this sea, in latitute 51° north, is not less than 90° longitude, or 4,000 miles," hiivin; exclusive reference to tho Pacific Ocean. A careful examination of the protests l)cfore mentioned and the correspondence in reference thereto, as well as tlie Treaties which settled the controversy — that of 1824 between Russia and the United States, and that of 1825 between Russia and (!reat Britain -will disclose the fact that they all had rclcrenee to the coast and waters of the North Pacific between the 51st i)arallel nortii latitude ai\d .Mount St. Elias and tiast of the i4ist meridian of longitude. In all the protests, correspondence, negotiations, and Treaties, tiierc is no allusion to Bchring's Sen, the Aleutian Islands, or to any rej^ion of country or sea within 1,000 miles of its eastern border ; hcitce the sovereignty assntrd and maintained by lUissia over that sea from its discovery to its partition and cession to the United States, a period of over 140 years, has never been oflieially questioned or denied. At the time of and when negotiating these Treaties, the High Contracting Powers all knew of the existence of Behring's Sea, the Aleutian Islands, the Prebilov Islands (St. George and St. Paul) within Behring's Sea, and the valuable life on them and in their surrounding waters, and that these constituted the chief value of Russia's possessions on the North American coast and waters. Charts had been published before and as earlv as 1805 by England and Russia, as accurately bounding and defining the waters of Behring's Sea on the north-west coast to the North Pacific Ocean, as do the Maps of to-dav, Behring's Sea then being called the Sea of Kamchatka. In these Treaties, there is no allusion to, or surrender of, Russia's dominion over lielning's Sea and the Aleutian chain of islands by expression or inference. Rii.ssi.. surrendi'red or ahundoned her claim only to the control of the North Pacific Ocean and to the north-west coast south of latitude 54° north, yet her title to the Aleutian Islands, extending as fur south as 51° north, latitude und longitude 106° to 167° west, is not and] never bus joen disputed or invalidated. n^3 It will be obderved by the dcHCiiptioii ol tirritoiv granted to uh in our purclniHe of Alaskii, tliut it» western lioundary dividcN IkluinK's Si-a between us nnd Siberian Knai*ia, ami tilt' fact cannot l)e siietestNluily denied, mh it is a matter of hi«tory, that KiiMia, from luT <li"<'Overy of Hclninjj's Sea down to the eesiion to the United Slntec, lias controlled tlip iiavijjation of its waters and the takin;? of its murine life. To this end her navy has patrollcil it, and, in pursuance of her laws, taken, coidiscated, atid burned inaraudin<! vTjisels; 8i)e has since pursued, and is now pursuing, the snnic policy on iu'r part of Delirini,''!* Sea. In conllrmation of this, I (juote from the oIKcial order issued by the Russian (Jovern- iiiciit, as lute U8 the 13th January, 1882; — " Notice. — At the rcejuest of the local nuthoritiea of Rehring and other islands, tlie Uiidcisigned hereby notifies that the Russian Imperial Uovernmcnt publishes, for {general knowledge, the following;: — "I. Without u special permit or licence from the Governor-General of Eastern Siberia, foreign vessels are not allowed to carry on tradinj,', hunting, fishin>,', &c., on the Russian coast or islands in the Okhotsk and Rchring'a Seas, or on the north-cast coast of Asia, or williin their sea boundary-line. "5. Foreign vessels found trading, hunting, fishinir, &;e., in Russian waters without a licence or |)ermit from the Governor-General, and also those possessing a licence or permit who may infringe the existing byeluws on liuutim:, shall be confiscated, botii vessels and cargoes, lor the benefit of the Government. This enactment shall be enforced henceforth, commencing with a.d. 1882. " (j. 'J'he enforcement of the above will be intrusted to men-of-war, and also Russian merchant-vessels, which, for that purpose, will curry military detachments, and be provided with proper instructions." There is nothing ambiguous in the language of this Proclamation. It means that I Russia will enforce her sovereignty over the western half of Hchring's Sea, within her "scu I boundary-line." The cession of Alaska to tlu; United States by Russia, and the terms of the Treaty I nmkins; such cession, were well known to all nations, yet no protests or objections were made, though it was well understood to convey the title to the waters of l^ehrings Sea. The discussion of the Treaty in the United States' Senate was notice to our nation and to I tlie world. In confirmation of which, I quote from the remarks of Mr. C'harles Sunuier, ICIiairinan of the C^)mmittee on Foreign Affairs of the Senate of the United Slates, at the llimc of tile considerjition of the Treaty. Mr. Sunmer said, speaking for the Treaty: — " ' The seal, amphibious, polygamous, and intelligent as the beaver, has always su|)plicd llhe largest nmltitude of furs to the Russiam Company.' After enumerating the land fi rs, lllie value of the walrus for ivory, he adds : * I mention the sea-otter last ; but in beauty land value it is the first, in these resjjects il i'ar surpasses the river and land utter, &c. 1 Icmno now to the fisheries, tlic last head of this inquiry, and not inferior to any other in uportance ; perhaps the most important of all. What even are sca-ottcr skins by the JMdeof that product of the sea, incalculable in amount, which contributes to the sustenance |ot' the human family ?' " . ic • Thus showing that the ac(]uisition of the products of Behring's Sea, its fur-bearing |aiiiirds, and fisheries, were regarded as the chief object of the purchase. ..i-.i .;.,. Again, Mr. Summer, in the course of his remarks, said : — '■ ■ . ■ " ' Traversing Behring's Sea midway between the Island of Attoo on the east and ICiippcr Island on the west, to the meridian of 173° east longitude, leaving the prolonged Ipou]) of the Aleutian Islands in the possessions now transferred to the L'nited States, 1 making the western boundary of our country the dividing-line which separates Asia |§om America.'" .., , ,., - .: . ,,,,-• %k \m^ 1 ^^H^ifll ■■^mi' ^^^^HH) m ^Hffl w HHIn m- ^HhI ■j-'l Mr. Sunmier again said ^.l '■'In the Aleutian range, beside innumerable islets and rocks, there are not less than Itfty-five islands exceeding .3 ndles in length ; there arc seven exceediiij: 40 miles, \Mth lOoniniak, which is the largest, exceeding 73 miles. In our part of Beliriiu/s Sea there |irc live considerable islands, the largest ot which is St. Lawrence, being more than i miles long.' " :;! i Hiii 344 ;ili 1 1- i' ! HA Nole tlu> expression of the (iistinijuishcd Senator, " In our jmrt ol' IJolirii);,''s Sea." This, coniini;- (Voin bo hiii;h nn luitliority, in liinf^uuRO so plain and explicit as not to (idmii of inisconstructioi'., evinces tlie intention and uiulerstaiuiing of tlu! Conlr.'ietini^ (Joverii- ments, which was the partition of tiie sovereignty of the waters of liehring's Sim hv,, south-west'ily line throof^jh it. the eastern portion, with Aliisica, hv'\u^ tlie territory of thj. Unitec? Suit's, and tlie western portion, with Siberian Asia, tliat of Jlussia, their comlmuil territory au'i sliorc-lines .surrouiidiiii^ Ikhriiif^'s Sea, except the northern and souUhtii oiiilets. 'J he d scussion in tiie United States' Senate, and its Mnul action u^xm this Treiilv imd question, was a notice to the world of Russia's rijj;ht to transfer this vaiuahle nmrine territory, to which not even a suggestioii to the contrary lias ever been raised on the |i;irt of any nation. if more were needed to convince us of tlie riglits and intentions of the ijii;!, Contractini^;; i'a.'ties, we liave only to refer to the ein'resjiondence between our Hkh Secretary of State, Mr. Seward, c.U(i our Minister at St. Petersbtn-gh. (Printed in executive documents for the use ot C/O'igress.) In May 18 J7 our Min'ster writes as follows : — "Sir "Your despatch No. 241 of the 1st Aj)ril, 18(i7, inclosing tlic Treaty between Russia and Anvfrica, ceding us all Russian America, was duly received. I awaited the ex|)ressi()ii of European and Russian sentinu;nts in leterence thereto before answering you. ''I congratulate; yon upon this brilliant achievement, which adds so vast a territory to our Union, wliose ports, whose mines, whose waters, whose furs, whose fisheries are of untold ''due, and whose fields will produce many grains (even vih';at), and bi'coine there- after, in time, the seat of a iiearty white pi)[)ulation." vms Again, in November 18G7, the American Minister at St. I'etersburgli, giv description of llissian America, says, in reference to the Aleutian Islands: — '- Ti'.e Aleutian Islands may attract transient traders, hut no permanent settlers. To inhabit them one must he an Aleut, nnti if it were not for the sea surrounding the islamls, this country, owing to its unfavourable elimalie conditions and the .sterility of its ground, would havci never been inhabited at all." From the first extract, it v.'iil be observed that the American Government exercii-eil caution before cond'uling the Tro-ity, and awaited tlie ex[)rfssion of European sentiuieiiis in Inference to the &anie. Its acts w.'re ojjen and 'ree to criticism, and the last (piotatioii is conclusive on the point that our Gc. eminent fuhy comprehended the value of the waters of Rehring's Sea, and for this reason mainly was the purchase made. Had it been understrod that the waters of Mehring's Sea and its marine life were free to the fishermen of all ni tians, including ours, there could have been no incentive on the part of our Government i^, ^ i-s purchase a^ the price of 7,200,000 dollars. In any other vi^w of the case it would liave been absurd, hut, on the contrary, it wa:; known tlint Pjssia did, 'rom the time of its I'iscovery, control these waters, and that she liad ever rsseded her title and maMitained her dominion by causing her ships of war to piitrol them. It is admitted on all sides that whatever ti;le Russia had at the date of the transfer of the territory we acquired and otill possess, and the United States being in possession and olaiming ownership, our right must be conceded until it is established that our grantor, Russia, had no liile ti this territory, or that she did not maintain dominion over it, wliicli, I apprehend, cannot bn s"o<"C;es8fully accomplished. There was no concealment of this Treaty or its purpose. Russia divided iier I possessions of Behring's Sea with us in the presence of all nations, to which there was no remonstrance on the part of any of them. By an Act of Congress, approved as early as the 27tli July, 1808, it is provided: "The Laws of the United States relating to customs, connneree, and navigation are extended to and over all the mainland, islards, and waters of the territory ceded to tlit i United Stales by the E.nperor of Russia," It also provides that (see Revised Siatiiies, section 1956) "no p;.ison shall kill any fur-seal or other fur-bearing ai.imals within tliei limits of Alaska territory, or in the waters tliereo'." In 1881, it coming to the knowledge of the United States' Government for tiic lirst I time that unauthorized persons were illegally tak.ng seals in Alaskan waters, the Secretary of the Treasury caused to be jiublished a notice to all that the Law prohibiting the killinj of teals in Alaskan waters would be enforced agalt.!it ail comers, and its penalties be 346 inflicted (Congress having tniidc provision to ef]ui[) Uic vcHsels of the Revenue Marine for that ptnjiose) ; sineo wliieh time tliis notice has heen yearly pubHshed, and to-day, both this and the Russian Ooveninicnts arc protcctinf? their respective dominions in tiic waters of Hein-inar's Sea, as they ever have done, frotn all unauthorized comers. It niigiil he iiiieresting to continue the history of the lef^isiation of Congress on this subject, and ascertain ujioii wliat facts it based its late action, the necessity for such iictidi), and to 8|)':eulate upon its probable results, but my time and your space will not iKMinit. Suffice; it to say. Congress had entire confidence in our title, the justice iif our cause, our ahdity to maintain our rights, and believed that not to have maintained those ri^'lits would have heen unwise, beneath the dignily of the nation, and even craven. Inclosure 2 in No. 24.'>. Kvlrucl. frnni. Hit- "Nam York Kvcmng Post" of (Moher 18, 1889, The Hi'.irniNo's Ska Qtiehtton. A Rcplji to ('oiKjressman Frlton. To tiu- Editor of the " Evening I'ost." Sir, Salmi, Mass., Oclolier fi, TIIK Honourable Charles N. Kclton published in the San Francisco "Argonaut" of the l-'tli August last an attcm[)t at a vindication ol our seizures of foreign seuling-vessels in that part of the Pacific called IJehring's Sea, and he says of it that it is a statement of the facts. Mr. Felton was a member of the last Congress, and also u member of the Conference Committcie which had to compromise the difference between Senate and House over our last very sapient piece of legislation concerning the waters of Alaska. The positions held by Mr. Felton led the ".Argonaut" to say of him that he is thoroughly conversant with the subject, a heliel probaldy shared by many wiio are themselves ignorant of it, and who will therefore accept his "statement of the facts " as reliable and perfectly conclusive. There aie, however, others, and they arc not few in number, whose investigations of this (]ucstioi! have proved to them that the facts coimccti'd therewith are diametrically np|).)se(l to those alleged by Mr. Felton, and wlio hav(! conseciuently arrived at an entirely (iiii'cnMit conclusion. Mr. Felton's jjlea is not new in itself, and it does not gain hy his way of stating it, which is confused and often unintelligible. The line of argumentation followed is that now forced upon the special pleaders in vindication of these seizures, by the fact that the tiieory originally advanced, of liehring's Sea being hy international law a closed sea, has i been too thoroughly exploded to leave it available anj longer. They therefore try fo irguo that if it is not a closed sea by international law, it is a closed sea by international mjiiipsrrncr ! And tl'on, remembering the showman's hint that, though a leopard caimot clmnge iiis spots, you can do it for him with a brush and a litth; paint, they set to work [to manufacture cor oborative evidence. By dint of judicious supprrssio vrri and smjijcstin /i//»', they get u\) a semblance of proof, well calculated to im[)ose upon the public, a good IcnonL;!) .Morgan until after erponurc. Meatuvhile tlie one end, never lost siifht of, is :MiiRil. The sti/ui'''s go on, foreign competition is at least checked, and the Alaska [('iiiiiMici'cial Company is " ])ri)tcete(l " as lav as possible. In order that yo'ir readers may clearly understand the points at issue between the lililcndcis of the seizures and those who condemn them, let me summarize these points. The by|)otbesis )f the defcuideis is, that in settling the controversy arishig out of iRussia's ])retensions of 18"21, a discriuuiiation was made between Pacific Ocean and iBehring's Sea; that while the hi^h seas (all outside of the customary .',<-rnile shore belt) the Pacific were declaied free to all the eontestauts, the high seas oi' Hehriug's Sea |were acknowledged to be under Kussia's "exclusive dominion;" that this exclusive 'oniiiiion was iievcr denied nor (|Uestion(d by any flower, was always maintained by lHii>siii,and tinaliy was made over hy her to us, so (ar as it concerned our jiart of Behring's Iva; that conseejuently onr title to such dominion is unimpeachable. The argument of the opponents of seizures, on the other hand, is that there was no liliicrimination made between the l^acific and Bohring's Sea, and that tliere was no call nor Incuse for any, as thev are identical in all that constitutes either an open or a closed sea, [128] ■ 2 Y ' i ,'J i i ;m« : / tli(M)iily IwiHuiiilit III' M(>a wl)i(>)i intcrnnfiinnsil iinrkc mmI law i'(:ci)(;ni/o ; iliiit the iiliKonrc of tlic tci'iii " Hcliriiii^'s Sen" I'iumi nil tin- (locimiriiilw is jjcrO cdy iiiituiiil, l)(.'(miiHc tlmi iiaiiic Ik of iiKin? inixltMii <ii'iL;in Uiiiii (lie iiiklc oi' tliimi' ,jap''i'>, iiikI Iiccuumc tlu; piiticH to the contiDvi'i'sy I'ollriwcii llic snlc hikI Wril-r^tal>liHl»«(l < iimtmii nl iiHliif^ only tin; (iiiiiiiuh, iloinciirliil.ui'U of tlic times, which (li<l not irK;lM<le the \\u\\v>- " liehnnKH S(;;i ;" tiiiil nil tJic WuUm'h ttl ilu' pir out ll<'hi'in"-'s Sen wcin- then, and now ^«t' (frmhidcnMl hy nil iiulliiiiitii^ on Kco;;i'ii|ihy as lnjon^in'^ In. and lunninu; part nf, the K.kOifbi' Ocuun : that, conNiMiiii'iitly tlic sti|)idiiti()im of llic 'l'r(ati("- of i -''i'l and JH'jri, dt-i'liiiii'i' li'ccdom ot iiuvinutiiiii iiiiil liHhcry in any part ol' the l'acili<', a|i|>l\ In every |><rt ol lii'in iiii':;V Sea, nwd arc hiiMlin^'dn all the nations which Ni}j;iK'd tlics(« 'IViratirs; tlni* RnHnia mvcr after thr dale dC tin,, 'IVealies asserted or riainicil any .iiirisiiict.ior: ov«-ir DclMiiwvk^'s Sea, him! ,;.n'er ai'tcrwiinls interfered wiih the lishinir i)y fhf vessH«i of ofiher ni»f«»»«i« #' its wirf^-w; an'i last, lail imi least, that linssia iifirr iiutrd nor ^' •tmidvtl In ci'ilr I'l hs wiHfii .<mii n^ divminin^t of ami kiml (Wi'r 11111/ .v(/ il'hiitsnvnr . Tile ih'lendcis ol the ici/iirc-. ttk not itrodiire, or even 4<We^e liMt. tlkeri- exists, any dWect dneinnenlaiv pro,)!' of the ^tn-d'HMJed di >eriininatiuii heliwi-f-n Vucittr fX-caii iiml B»^lirini^'s Sea, or of any acknow|cil»";n««M»'' «ti i^xpt'cHs terms, of Rnn'ttn's t'x H ww w e iloaiinMin Nonthcr do they oiler any reason for tlii-; 'ItoeriininatiDii this ciialun" tish t4 4me and luwl of t1l>«' olhiM". nil'- do llicy show aii\' oliji '• lial was In he nameil hv ii'^ l>r (AiM- tW»:iiiili)ii. nieni 111 our i'i(itll1s under iiilii'Mulidiiid law i. (he Iree use of lJclirin!;'s Sea f'r runtrn, the op|)i>iu'nls do In'tnu; ample im'ooC, drawn li>i>«i olli<'ial dMcnuieiits, in support, of cvcrv point in their nr<^nnicnts, as will now he shuwn. A eolleetioe of thise rlocuiMr-nt. in (!onvenient form, hiis rceenllv hecn pnhlislied, as Sen K.v. l)o(V No. lOti, Tit'). ' , 2 !* ii- "ii which I will ipiote. (In support nl'llie assertion that the •pi^'stion (>f nnvi|.ration and fiNl was treated as concerniii:; the whole of the j'ncilic, willioui disci'i-MiiiHition hniU«(iiMi diHercnl, par!.s.) (P. 210.) H(!erctnry Adams' letter, .Inly 2'-'. IH'i.'!, to our Minister iit .St. Peleinlti. smniiinri/.i's the Knssian claim as cxti'iuliiiL' to " an exchisivi' territorial jnristliction ; the -1. Mil deforce of ninth lalilule, on I he Aiil iaiie coasi, to the latitude of •"il iKirlli, the western enasl iii the American Conliiienl , and Ihev assume liie riL;ht <>t inlenlicln the nnvifj;ntion and the li'lu'ry of ,il! oilier iiaiions t^. llie exiciil ol 1.00 inilcs I'ruin whole of tlint cinist." " 'l"hc United States can adiiiil no /nirt of these elai'iis." (!'. yi I.) Our .Minister at St. i'clershnr^'h In S.ereti«Hr A4iiins, Afiril ID, IH'Jj. Hcporl on the Minutes nl the ( 'unlereiiee pri)e.'ediiiu;s : " fli.il I must now franldv dll them [the Itussian Minisiers| that my iiisti netions n ipjired that I should ohtain twn {iiiint'il as neccsHiny condiliinis to the third ohjcel contemplated hv the proji^ct of (^onvcntinii: (I) //((' rnticiitioii, either spnntancinis or ny Convention, o/ Ih'' •uiirilinir iinivixionn iif Ih IJkasv of Sriiliiiilwr A ( Ht)> "^"-' '< l-^) llie adoption ol the coinincrciul |>nii(;i|ile ('yr .soiiii-| tliiiiL; snnilar,^ ai^riM'd upon lielwein the I'eiled Slates and (in-ul Dntatti in tlw-ir ' onvcn tion of IMIH, III r<'latiini to liasc coasts, ,.'!) that, liitsi .itreliniiimries l>< in^ sctllnl < territorial delimitation for scttleinciits at tth iiiii>;hl in- agrt*' i|m>ii." (In support of tiie a scrtiiin that all the waters uf the ^ii'«*-nt lichrinu^'H Vte*. wen, all the time of the 'i'reatics and since, ollicially ireii(;nized a* I.H•^lul^in^ to th» Hacilic.) (!'. :20(i.) Russian Minislcr at Wnsluni-lon to Scrercl-- .Adams. I'Vl.ruary '2H, |S2. " I might, in the lasl jilaci , to re(|uesl you to consider, sir, iluit I'te Ru'>siui. possess miiMii I tlir Panjic Orriin extend, on the north-west const of /\inerie.i, 'htu, Bclnin^'tt Strait ' ■ tln'l 5lsl decree of norlh latitude, and on the opposite siih? of .\^i.( -tiid tlx- islands aiiiitci :il,l from the same strait to the I'lth (lej<rec." (This includes every part of the present llelirin;^'s .Scii.) (I*. 2IK.) Treaty (if Cession, 'Jnih .)iine, IS(i7. I.asi clans'.' of Article I, stiitlnd wckU'I'ii limit of the cession : '' . . . . sons to pass midway hctween the Itilund nl AiihuI and the CoppiT Island of the Koinaiidurski couplet or ijronp in the Sortli I'mm (kt'iiii . . . ." (Attou lies in .'f2" .'>7', ami ('oppii Island in jM' 115' to .'>J .''i.'")' north, or iiliou^ 100 niih^s iiKU'c northerly than the Aleutian Islanil of Atlou, ,iiid tln.-i'e is noeliaiiii islands hctween Copper Island and our enasl -line from lichriii!^'. Sirail to tin; soulli ciiil 4 the Peninsula ol Alaska, nothing to set oil' that portion of ihe I'ucitic in which l'(i|i|ici Island is thus ollicially stated to lie, from that pi lou whi(di washes uin' couhI.) (In support of assertions c()neernin;i; 'I'rea' , stipulations.) (I'l). '2'20-'2'2 1 .) A summary of the Ire y of iHlil . - Artich- I. It is a^rceii that in aiii/ pn ■' tlx; great ocean roiiuiiDnli/ nillnl the I'nrim Ofwoi or South Sea, the respective cit- ,s or suhjects of the IJi^h ContrucliiiK' l*<'Wtf shall he neither distnrhcd nor ro8tri>! . ' oithcr in navip-ntioii or in fishing or in the powl .•»47 of n'HortiiiK t<* tlui conHts upon poiiitH wliich may not iilicudy liiivt- Ixmmi orcuinieil, lor tliu purpDHr of trading willi the natives, saving always llu^ rcstrirtionH and conditionH (Ictcriniiuul by the tollowinj^ Aiticlcs. Artic'Ut II t(ii'l)i(lH the ir.sortinu; to tjii^ rcHpcctivi; cstaiilislinu^nlH w'llioiil. pcrnnHHion. Article III I'orbidN the lonnin^; of cstiililishnu^iitH liy t!illi('r parly, north and mtulli rpipcttivniy, of M" 40' nortli. Arti(;le IV pcnnitM, during; a term of ten years, tlie frecpientint; Ity either party of t li« intt'tior Hims, Vn:., npon thi! eoasl nienlioned in the preceding Arli(!l(\ (In Hnpport, of the assertion l.iint. Russia eirded to the United Slates no soa, and no iloMiinion over any sea.) (I'. '217.) Treaty of Cession, 2<>lh .huie. IH(i7 :— Article I. Russia UHrees to cede "all the territory and dominion now pc.ssossod liy jiin said Majesty on lite rDiiliiinil of Aninini and In llir ndjarrtit istaiuts, l\w hmiw Uu'w^ coittuined within tlie K<'"n''''l'''''''^' iiuiits herein set lorlli. In wit : The eastern limit is the line of deinanMition hetween lln: Russian and tlu^ liritish |i(issesHions in North Anu;riea , , . . I the details mv otnileil her(! as irj'elevant, this line not loueliin:; R'hrnig's Hea at any point]. The westiMii limit witliin wliieh the territories and dominions conveyed aro contained pass(-s throu|L;h a point in lU hrinL;'H Straits, on the parallel of (i.V .')()' nortli liilitude, at its intersi (-tion hy the meridnm which panses miilway hetween the Islands of Knisenslern or l^nalook, and the Island of Ratmimoll', or Noonarnooli, and proceitds due norlli, willioiil limitnlion, into the same I'Vo/en Ocean. The same western limit, licgiaiiinK at the sanu' initial poiid, proceeds thence in a comse neaily soiilh-wcHl through point nin riy UlLlllliix'fS '*^ iii^' -^ •»•!•« iiiiiiii-i i'«'iiii, i»i(fi,^-\.iin (■■•^■i|\v< III ifc \.ifiii,-^i lit til If .~iiri«Lii~<>\nv i/iii«#iii llchring's Straits and Hehrini;'s Sea, so as to pass midway lietwc( ii tlu; norlh-Wi'sl poi (if the island of St. Lawrence and I In.' south-east point of ( 'ape (Uioukotski, to the meridi III' I7'2' west lon(;itud('; thence Irom the inlerscctidU nf that meridian in a south-westei ilii'celion, HO as to pass midway Ik I ween Ihi' Island of Atlou and the ( 'opper Island of tne Kdawmdiirski { Ko/inundorski is a misprint { couplet or ki'<><>|' '" ''■'' North I'aeilie Ocean, III the meridian of lil.'t" wi-sl louf^il inle, so as to include m the territory convcyi'd the '<fthe Aleutian Islands eastof that mirridian." .icle II. In the e( s-ion of lei rilnry and dominion made liy the preccMlin^ Article ' tn: included the ri,i;hl nf pr(i|icrly in all |iul:ijr lots and sipiai rs, vacant lands, and all puldic .MiiMings, fortillcations, harracks, and other ediliecs which arc iwit piivate individiiid jjfojx'rly." The rest of the provisions reli'r to churches and to puhlic archives. Article III refers to the rights of the iidiaiiilanls. Article IV refcrn to lh(! appointment ol agents lor tl / ipir ceded. >r'fU'. V r(d'ers to the ox<dian|.'i' of ratilication. U- VI Huyti .... tluM'cssion ofteri'ilory and dominion herein liansfer of the tta'rilorv and ili'i'iii' pDHSCs; idler. (.1 T ■ ni^vci • • • • I'lii- t\nni«(ii \n iAiiiti/iy itmi lofiiiiiiiiiii iit.ii iii Jill Kit- IH ll(*r('i)y M' lre(! and uncncundi(U'cd hy any reservations, privileges, franchises, grants, or )y any associated (!ompanii's, whether (roi'porate or incorjiorate, Russian or any Mil, <» , any pai'ties, e\c(^pt merely private individual property-holders ; anil the . .moil hei.'.y made (Minveys all the rights, franchises, and privileges now belonging t(» KuHHM >ii tlx said territory or dominion, ami appurtenances llareto.'' No s*.' .r dominion over any sea is among the things cmnmTated as <;edc(l. No do<iii»«>ii ov I' uii opitn sea like hchring's Sea could la- (dainu'd as a right (;ediM! under Art- i< yj, Ixtuuse Russia has limited these rights lo su(di as belong to her, in lint mid irtr . , '// d/tminiiin and iippurlcnunrcs llinrlo, and doiniuion i)V(;i' an open sea is not a nijt^i »■ V ./ t(> territory, nor is Hiich a smi an <ipi>uilrn<iiiit to territory. >' Us us that had it been understood that th(; waters of Kehring's Sea I aim ii- ii.iriiK !•'■ were Irt-e to the ' lishermcn (d' all nations iiicliidltn/ ours' \Klf\, there ciiuld hiivc brcii no iiKriilive on the part ol our (iovernnient for its pundiasi^ at th(' pric(- 111 7,lil)U,O0t) dollaff.. In any othi'r va;w of thiM-ase, it would have been alisiird . . ." Thut is, of course, a matter of opinion, and on it some nuty prefer the judgment of nun like Seeri't^iry Seward and .Senator Sumaer to that ol Mr. Kelton. Kul wh:it is suic i», that these gentlemen would have lelt nolliiiig at loose ends. They wen; tia; jirime iiioverK on our side ni the transact ioi>, and it they had thought I hat our bargain " included C)iclnsiv(t duininioii over Hehring's Hea," they would lune had express stipulations to Ihiit t'Heet inserted in the 'i'reaty, just as Sci-rctary Scwar<l is known to have insisted on ll;i! insertion of the dauHu in Artielu VI (cited above) that "the territory was free and mioiicumbcred," &c. Now let inc say a it^w words in sup|iort of my charges against Mr. I'Vlton and his (ellow-advocatea of the ucizures of niumifueturc of evidence, of aiipiiresiiiu vrri, and [12HJ U Y -2 . I 1 ■'; I : f!.^ i H't;^ I I 348 suggestio falsi. I repeat that every allegation concerning important facts is more or less untrue, and every essential quotation more or less twisted and perverted. To expose all of these sins here is, of course, impossible, so 1 confine myself to a few examples. 'lake the opening assertion in Mr. Fclton'a article : — "The title of the United Stales to Alaska and the iiehring's Sea was accjuired from Russia by the Treaty of Cession o! 1^68 [misprint for 1867], 'in which she ceded and conveyed all the riglits, franchises, [and] privileges now belonging to Russia in the cecleil territory or dominion, and appmtenanres thereto;' the same being contained within the geographical limits herein set forth, to wit:" followed by the description of them, as quoted by me above. Here a stiaightforward and iionest quotation of Article T of the Treaty would at onee have exposed the fallacy of the above assertion as regards Belning's Sea, and so a little game of selecting and arranging suitable passages is resorted to. The most essential jiart of the particulars uiven in Article I, the enumeration of the territory and dominion ceded, is suppressed. For it is substituted something cut off from tlie oiul of Article VI, the general covenants of secondary importance, usual in conveyances, wliicli can be correctly interpreted only by reference to a preceding enumeration, and then coincs the rest of Article I, the description of the geographical limits. The effect aimed at, and probably attained in the case of most readers, is to hide the true import of .Article I, the simple statement that ( veryMiing ceded was included within certain geographical limits, and to create instead the false impression that everything embraced within these iiiiiils was ceded; to create the false impression that as a large part of Behring's 8ea was situate within these limits, such part of this sea was consequently also ceded and conveyed. In like manner Mr. Felton's mere reference to, without proper quotations from, our protests against Russia's pretensions, destroys the emphasis, belittles and belies tlic scope of Secretary Adams' categorical and all-embracing, " can admit no pari of these claims." Again, Mr. Felton's assertion " that Russia, from her discovery of Behring's Sea down to the cession to the United States, has controlled the navigation of its waters and the taking of its marine life. To this end her navy has patrolled it, and, in pursuance of her laws, taken, confiscated, and burned marauding vessels ; she has since and is now pursuing the same policy on her part of Behring's Sea," is simply a glaring untruth. Mr. Felton does not, of course, cite any case of such confiscation, and none occurred; for since the Treaties of 1824 and 1825 Russia never interfered with foreign vessels fishing in those waters, though foreign whalers frequented them during the whole of the time referred to, and literally swarmed there by hundreds during the years of the prosperity of that pursuit. On the contrary, Russia in 1842 refused officially a demand of the Russian-American Company for interference with those whalers on the express ground that the Treaty gave Americans the right to fish over the whole extent of the P^icific Ocean (see Bancroft's " History of the Pacific States," vol. xxviii, p. .')83). And it may be well to remind Mr. Felton that seal-fishing on the high seas is just as legitimate in international law as whale-fishing there. Just as little as Russia interfered in times gone by does she do so now, and the inference to the eontra.y which Mr. Felton pretends to draw from an official Russian Notification of the 15th November, 1881, is as unwarrarted and as misleading as mf ,t of his inferences. Mr. Felton assigns a wrong date to it, but quotes it correctly and m extenso. It forbids foreign vessels to carry on, without special permit or licence, tradin;.', hunting, fishing, &c., on the Russian coast or islands in the Okhotsk and Behring's Seas, or on the north-east coast of Asia, or within their sea boundary-line (the italics arc Mr. Felton's). There is nothing andiiguous in the language of this Proclamation, says Mr. Felton, and this is indi.'ipntable. It is this gentleman alone who introduces ambiguity and even misrepiesentation into the d'scussion, when he proceeds to say : "It means that Russia will enforce her sovereignty over the western half of Rehring's Sea n-itliin her sfa boundary-line." Certain phrases have certain definite and well-established Uicanings, are employed exclusively in such accepted signification in official •locutnciits. and are always interpreted strictly in tlus sense. The i.jcepted sense of sea boundary-line, with reference to coasts and islands, is a line three miles seaward from low-water mark cu the siiore, and thei'c is consequently no warrant for Mr. Felton's ])ieposterous misinterpreiation. Pi'riisal of pp. 2.'j1 to 27'5 of the official document above referred to (Sen. Ex. Doc, No. lUO) would have linnished Mr. Felton proof of the untruth of his asscrtio.i and of the falsitv of his interpretation. Oidy tlnce cases of interference are theie meiitioned ; none of tliein weie for acts done on the high sea, but all lor acts within the 3-mile limit. Two of these seizures took place in the Russian part of Behring's Sea, ami if Mr. Felton's 948 livnothesis ot a division l.etween Russia and tlie United States of exclusive jurisdiction over this sea lias ever been adopted by onr Government, the wonder is how it could consistently take any ofKcial notice of an exercise of such jurisdiction by Russia that would be perfectly legitimate under said hypothesis. Mr. Fclton's manner of arguing, his way of stating a jiroposition and drawing inferences from it, oHbrs a refreshing contrast to the stale rules of logic hitherto considered as liinding upon a writei-. His method of geogra])iiical definition is also quite novel, and I confess I have not been able to master it. Here is a specimen which is entirely beyond me; " that they [Treaty of 1824 and otiier documents] all had referancc to the noast and the waters of the North Pacific, between the .5!st parallel of north latitude and Mount St. Elias and east of the 141st meridian of longitude." Mount St. Elias is a good many miles inland, and this is the Hist instance i<nown to me of an inland mountain being pressed into service as a tcnninal point of "coast and waters."' Besides, this limitation of the ii|)plicati()n of the Treaty of 18'J't leaves a very long coast-line of the Pacific, and nii(|uesiionably not of Behring's Sea, viz., that from 141° west to the south-west extremity of tlio Peninsula of Alaska in about 1(J3° 30' west unprovided for. Was .here some kind of " acquiescence" about this long coast-line, loo, and if so, what was acquiesced in? The |)i>.ssage, " Russia surrendered or abandoned her claim o.ilv to the contro' of the North Pacific Ocean, and to the north-west coast south of latitude 54° north, yet her title to the Aleutian Islands, extending [title or iblands? R. R.] as far south as 51° north latitude and longitude 166° to 16/° wesf, is not, and never has been, disputed or invali- dated," is another geographical conundrum as well as a puzzle in logic. The closing sentence in Mr. Fclton's article is as extraordinary as anything he has achieved in the way of asst'rtion : "Congress liad entire confidence in our title" — that is, in our title to exclusive jurisdiction in our part of Behring's Sea. Let us see what the " Congrcfc .lonal Record ' shows on this point: The House tacked on to a Senate Hill an amendment tliat section 1950 of the United States' Revised Statutes includes and applies to all the wi-tpvs of Behring's Sea in Alaska embraced within " the boundary-lines mentioned and described iti the Treaty with Russia dated the 30th March, 1867 ;" that "it shall lie the duty of the President to issue an annual warning Notification, to have it published in a newspaper, and to cause one or more vessels to cruize in said waters to seize all violators of United States' laws therein." The Senate refused to pass the amend- ment. In conformity with the advice of the Conference Committee, the amendment was altered to the following : That section 1956 "is hereby declared to include and apply to all the dominions of the United States in the waters of Behring's Sea," leaving the new- duties of the President as above, and in this shape it was enacted. The effect of the change resulting from the Senate's action is stated in the House Report to be " to leave out the words that are descriptive of the bo ndaries of the waters of Alaska." Mr. Felton is, of cdurse, entitled to all the comfort he may be able to derive from this proceeding, but the public will not accept this testimony as proving " confidence " on the part of Congress. Considering that the House had actually :c) rescind its action, to abandon the position to which it had committed itself, the whole looks decidedly like a confession that the House felt " very shaky " indeed on the validity ot rhe alleged title. It recalls the story of the King who ([uarrellcd over some point in a game of chess «hicli he had the condescension to play with a subject of his, while a crowd of courtifs preseived a dead silence. When the contention was at its height, an officer of known skill at the game entered, to whom the King appealed for a decision, and who replied instanter : "Your Majesty is wrong!" " How can vou tell wlien you have not even glanced at the boai'fl?" Quite unnecessary! Would these gentlemen," pointing to the courtiers, 'rei 1 lin silent if there was a ghost of a chance to say anything in lavour of your Majesty ?" 1 .\ cl iiii in oi:r f'lvoiir and (Kjninst England, which such ever-ready 'jhanipions ol everything I anti-l];'glish as Messrs. iMliiuinds, Hoar, Frye. &c., refuse to support, must be indeed liopclossly week. Howeve- much one may find fault with what Mr. Felton docs say in his article, it is, I nevertheless, iinpossible not to regret that he left some things unsaid, tiiat he found it impossible "to continue the history of the legislation of Congress on this subject, and I ascertain upon what facts it based its late action, the necessity for such action, and to hpreulate upon its probable results. , . ." I^ight on ail these points is certainlv very laiuch needed, and it is very much to bo hopiid that some (Jonijressional Plia>bus Apollo hMll furnish it to the public. It is indeed difficult to liiid or imagine any good reason for Idle new Act of tlie 2nd March last. It is superHuous. and even absurd, to make a Istat itory declaration thai a law already enacted for a certain locality shall a]i[)!y to it. be measures for its enforcement now ordered may be wise, but ii tliey were to be confined |lo their legitimate sphere, they were quito wiiiiin the President's authority before said MM 300 Act. They had, in fact, been already taken by Nfr. Cleveland's Administration, had then been carried out in regions beyond that sphere for two seasons, after which better counsel prevailed, and they were limited to our acknowledged jurisdiction. The new law contains nothing new as to the sphere in which the old law is to be enforced ; on the contrary, the attempted extension of this region was distinctly abandoned. Congress in this case, as often before, shirked the responsibility, and confined itself to " egging on.'' Secretary Blaine's assertion, that he is merely enforcing an Act of Congress when he allows the capture of foreign sealers outside of the 3-mile shore limit, is not borne out by the provisions of the Act. Apparently, Mr. Felton and his partizans are entirely unconscious of the fact that their hypothesis fairly bristles with absurdities. It presupposes that, in the settlement of a controversy seriously aflecting ebtablished principles of international law, civilized Governments would deliberately stultify themselves to the extent of insisting upon tlicse principles being strictly carried out in one part of the ocean, and of utterly ignoring them, at the same time, in the part immediately adjoining; of discriminating between seas that have not those geographical differences which international law makes the very conditio sine qud non of discrimination, and of doing all this without any documentary record of tl-iir action, and without a word of explanation as to the reason for such an unprecedented performance. It presupposes that the two maritime nations par excellence. Great Britain and the United States, each more powerful on the ocean than Russia, would have surrendered to her their natural right to the free use of an open sea (expressly declared by Mr. Felton to have been known at the time as valuable), without struggle or remonstrance, without equivalent or cause ! And all tiiis idiotic travesty of patriotism, statesmanship, and diplomacy, is imputed to men of the calibre of John Quincy Adams, George Canning, and Count Nesselrode. This sorry figment of crazy suppositions is palmed off for truth, in the face of documentary proof o.*" a natural, a reasonable, and a consistent argument to the contrary. We are urged to persist in an indefensible and dishonourable policy when there is every evidence that a legitimate and honourable course — that of international conference and agreement — would bring about every res-ult we profess to be aiming at, and bring it about more quickly and more thoroughly than could be hoped for by any other means. The ultimate outcome of such persistence is plain ; it may be delayed, but it cannot be escaped from eventually. And finally it must not be overlooked that, at the best, even a triumphant maintenance against Great Britain of Mr. Felton's hypothesis would not settle the question in our favour as against the rest of the world. Acquiescence being the basis of that hypothesis, it would be binding only upon those nations that had acquiesced. The others remain free to exercise their natural rights in Behring's Sea, and woula in time undoubtedly insist upon doing so, without our having a chance of preventing them under international law. (Signed) ROBERT RAYNER. No. 246. Sir J. Pmmcefote to the Marquis of Salinbui'y. — {Received November 12.) My Lord, WaMngton, November 1, 1889. I LOST no time, after my arrival bere on the 1 5th ultimo, in seeking an interview with Mr. Blaine on the Behring's Sea question. He was much engaged at the time with the Maritime Conference, but he ultimately appointed Thursday, the 24!th, for a prelimi- nary conversation on the subject. We had a great deal of friendly discussion, in the course ot which he stated that the seizures of the Canadian seal-fishing vessels bad been effected by the Treasury Department, which is charged with the protection and collection of the revenue (including that derived from the Alaska Company), and the measure had been resorted to under the belief that it was warranted by the Act of Congress and the Proclamation of the President. In tin's view, the Department had been confirmed by the Judgment of the District Court of Alaska. I observed that this appeared like an assertion of the mare claunum doctrine, which I could hardly believe would be revived at the present day by his Government or any other; to which he replied that his Government had not officially asserted such a claim, and therefore it was unnecessary to discuss it. As a matter of fact, there had been no inter- ference with any Canadian vessels in Behring's Sea except such as were found engaged in the capture and destruction of fur-seals. But his Government claim the exclusive right . 351 of scnl-fishery, which the United States, and Russia before thein, had practically enjoyed for generations without any attempt at interference from any other country. The fur-seal was a species most valuable to mankind, and the Bcln'ing's Sea was its last stronghold. The United States had bought the islands in tliat sea, to whicli these creatures periodically resort to lay their young, and now Canadian fishermen step in and slaughter the seals on their passage to the islands, without taking heed of the warnings given by Canadian officials themselves, that the result must inevitably be the extermination of the species. This was an abuse, not only reprehensible in itself, and opposed to the interests of mankind, but an infraction of the rights of the United States. It inflicted, moreover, a serious injury on a neighbouring and friendly State, by depriving it of the fruits of an industry on which vast sums of money had been expended, and which had long been pursued exclusi' 'y, and for the general benefit. The case was so strong as to necessitate measures of sell-tlefence for the vindication of the rights of the United States and the protection of this valuable fishery from destruction. I replied that, as regarded the question of right, I could not admit that the seizure of the Canadian vessels was justified under the terms of the Act of Congress or of the Proclamation of the President. Municipal legislation could have no operation against foreign vessels beyond territorial waters. A claim of exclusive fishery on the high seas was opposed to international law, and no such right could be acquired by prescription. Mr. Blaine observed that he thought Great Britain enjoyed such a right in relation to pearl fisheries in some parts of the world. I said I was not aware of any such case. As regarded the question of fact, namely, the danger of extermination of the fur-seal species and the necessity for a "close season," there was unfortunately a conflict of opinion. But if, upon a further and more coini)Iete examination of the evidence. Her Majesty's Govern- ment should come to the conclusion that a " close season " is really necessary, and if an agreement should be arrived at on the subject, all differences on questions of legal right would ipso facto disappear. Mr. Blaine expressed his readiness to proceed to such an inquiry, adding that he would be prepared to establish from Canadian evidence alone the absolute necessity for a "close season ;" but he strongly insisted that the inquiry should take place here, and be entirely of a diplomatic ciiaracter. It was suggested, in conversation, that the tripartite negotiation commenced in London between Great Britain, the United States, and Russia, which, from various causes, had been suspended, might be resumed in Washington. Mr. Blaine expressed his concurrence, but he said he did not wish to originate such a proposal. I stated that if such a.i arrangement were agreed to, I sliouid require the assistance of experts from Canada, and it should be understood that the results of the inquiry should, if desired, be made public to the world as a justification of the adoption of a " close season," and an inducement to all other nations to observe it. Also, that there should be an assurance against any more seizures, and an understanding as to compensation to the owners of the vessels and property seized. Mr. Blaine replied that if we did not settle the question before next April he should despair of our ever doing so, and that until that date, when the fishing season reopened, no seizures would take place, for tlicre could be no object in them. As regards compensation, if an agreenieni should be arrived at, he felt sure that his Government would not wish that private individuals who had acted bond fide in the belief that they were exercising their lawful rights, should be the victims of a grave dispute between two great countries, which had happily been adjusted. He was not without hope, therefore, that the wishes I liad expressed might he met, and that all might ho arranged in n manner which should involve no humiliation on either side. His tone was most friendly throughout, and he manifested a strong desire to let all questions of legal right and international law disappear in an agreement for a close season, which he believes to be urgently called for in the common interest. It only now remains for me to solicit your Lordship's instructions in regard to the suggestion of resuming in Washington the tripartite negotiation, with a view to arriving, if possible, at such a solution as is proposed by Mr. Blaine. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. ,11,-1 "V ' 'i \ \ ' I i I ^^ V f, ^. 352 No. 247. Foreign Office to Sir C. Lampson and Co. Gentlemen, Foreign Office, November 13, 1880. I AM directed by tlie Maniiiis of Snlisbury to acknowledge the receipt of yoLii' litter of the 6th instant, with its inelosure, again calling attention to the effects which are tu be appreiiended from the indisci'iininate slaugiiter of female seals in the waters of lk'lirii:;4's Sea, and I .in to say that your representfitions on the suhject will receive Ciuelul attention. Lord -Salisbury will be glad to receive any statistical evidence which you may be uhle to furnish as to the e.itent to which the number and quality of the catch of male seals luts been affected of late years by the increased slaughter of female seals in the open sea, and any other information wliich might be of assistance in considering the reincdiiil measures which it may he desirable to adopt. His Ijordship presumes that you would have no objection to the eventual pnbliciuioii of your letter under reply, and of any subsequent communications not marked " L'oiili. dential." I have, &e. (Signed) r. H. SANDERSON. No. 248. Sir C. Lampson and Co. to Foreign Office. — (^Received November 1;'),) Dear Sir, 64, Queen Street, London, November 14, 1889. WE have to acknowledge receipt of your valued favour of the 13th instant, and bci,' to thank you for having taken the matter into considcratinn. We are now collecting all the informatior. we can with reference to tiie details Lord Salisbury is anxious to obtain, and when we have completet' our Statement, will forward it to you. We are (|uite willing to have any of our letters used as Lord Salisbury may see lit. Yours, &c. (Signed) C. M. LAMPSON a no Co. No. 240. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received December I.) Sir, Downing Street, Novemlier 30, 188!). WITH reference to the letter from this Depaitment of the 9Lh August last, 1 am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to he laid before the Marquis of t^alisbiirv, a copy of a des[)atch from the Deputy Governor of Canada, inclosing an impoitaiit Minute of the Dominion J'rivy Council on the subject of the proposed close lime lor seals in Hehring's Sea. I am to request that the inclosures in Sir W. Ritchie's despatch, which are nut in original, may be returned after perusal. 1 am, &(;. (Signed) JOHN I5RAMST0X, 353 Inclosure 1 in No. 249. DfinityGorrrnor Sir IV. Ritchie to Lord Knul.s/ord. Mv Lord, Ottawa, November 11, 1889. ' ' WITH reference to Lord Stanley of Preston's confidential despatch of the 3rd August, 1R88, in whieli was inclosed a copy of a Minute of Council of the 14th July of that year, protesting against the proposal made by the United States' (jovcrnuient for the establish. nient of a close season for seals in IJehring's Sea, I have the honour to forward herewith, lor vonr Lordship's information, a copy of an approved Report of a Committee of the Privv C'ouncil, to which are appended certain declarations and statements tending; to support the contentions advanced by the Dominion Government in the above-mentioned Minute. I have, &c. (Signed) W. J. RITCHfE. Inclosure 2 in No. 249. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by //is Excellency the Governor-General in Council, November 4, 1?89. ON a Ri port dated the liGth October, 1889, from tiie Minister of Marine ami Fisheries, Ulatiiii; liiat he has recently r. ceived from parties interested in the fur-sealing industry of [the llchring's Sea, furtiicr information relative to seal-hunting. Tiie Minister desires altenlion to the Minute of Council dated the 14th July, 18S8, I made on a Report of the then Minister of Marine and Fisheries upon a proposal from Mr. Secretary Bayard, for the establishment of a close season for seals in the Bchring's Sea, which was a proposition to agree to enforcing a close season from the 15th April to the 1 1st November in each year. The Minute of Council dealt very fully with this and pointed out : — That the United States' Minister, as reported in the despatch from Lord Knutsford, I of the 8th March, 1888, then under consideration, had assci'ted that there were both close I open seasons lor killing seals in the Behring's Sea, and tl>atthe United States' Govern- Inient was endeavouring to enforce the observance of these seasons by all nationalities alike, land, consequently, that during the open season seals could be pursued without fear of Iniolestation, whereas, in fact, the killing of seals, except by the Alaska Commercial ICoinpany, lessees of the Seal Islands, is entirely prohibited by the laws of the United IStales, and this law was then being enforced against citizens of the United States and those |of Canada. That the Alaska Commercial Company, under the terms of their lease, had a monopoly lof the industry, and killed lOO.COO seals annually, for which monopoly they paid yearly |iiito the Treasury af the United States over 300,000 dollars. The Minute of Council above referred to went on to show that no pressing necessity Inisted for the establishment of such a close season, since careful measurement of the I'Rookeries'' on St. Paul and St. George Islands showed 6,337,750 seals, whilst only 100,000 were annually killed, and the United States' Special Agent for Alaska in 1887, reported the seals on the increase. That as the seals arrive in May and leave about the end of October, a close season Ifromthe Ist April to the IGth November, as proposed by the Honourable Mr. Bayard, Muld practically prohibit all fishing except by the Alaska Commercial Company, who Muld kill on the only places where the seals " haul out " during June, July, September, fend October, tl^nr ol the months of the |)roposed close season, thus establishing their |iiono|)oly more effectually. That while under Mr. Bayard's proposition this area would be closed against all kpirations (ixcept those of their own sealers on the Pribyloft" Islands, other sealing areas in picrica and Asia would be open to her as before. That the Alaska Commercial Company has a leasehold from the Russian Government ' fh does not fall under the proposed area. That while the arrangement would benefit Russia and the United States, Canada kould lose the whole sealing industry. [128] 2 Z iH IP tH-- Tlio Minister further observes timt this Minute of Council called attention to tin opinion ol cxpcrienct'd st-nlers, who avei that by the present methods of hunting with ;;iiii and spcnr not nioie than one in ten of tlu- seals struck is lost, and that it is not bcljfveii tliiit these nietliods arc so destruclive as alleged. In the snifi Minute of Council it is claimed that the sole object of the United Stiites was to establish a monopoly in the manner and locality of killinii; seals in favour of such United States' citizens who might from time to time enjoy the privilege of scaling di, Pribylotf" Islands. The Minister submits the appended declarations an<l statements in support of the views expressed in the Minute above referred to : they arc as follows : — Appendix No 1. Statement prepared by practical seal-hunters. Appendix No. 2. Statement prepared by A. R. Milne, Ksq., ^ivinf; u history of tlio sealing industry as pursued by British subjects in tlie Ikhring's Sea. Appendix No. 3. Solemn ileclaralion of Carl A. Lundburg on the slaughtL-r ofaiioni 10,000 seals at Robin Island by the crew of the schooner " Ijcon," a watch-vessel of tin Alaska Commercial Company. 'J'lie Minister states that it svill be seen that the first Appendix, in which the dift'innt hunters describe their operations in detail, fully bears out the position taken in llic Minute of Council of the 14th July, 1888, that the destructive nature of the modes of kHling seals by spears and fire-arms has been greatly exaggerated by the United States' authorities, a very small percentage of loss occurring. Also that the operations of the Canaoian sealers in the Behring's Sea are of necessity during the months proposed by the Honourable Mr. Bayard as a close season. 'I he Minister desires to invite particular attention to the fact that, while female seals with |)up are taken to some extent along the coasts a])proaching the Behring's Sea, siicli instances are of rare occurrence in the sea itself. Appendix No. 2 treats altogether of the history and extent of tlie Canadian sealiiij interest in tlie Noitli I'acific Ocean and Behring's Sea, and concludes by siiowing that, ;ij the seals travel singly and in pairs, not in droves or numbers as has been claimed, therein no opportunity for the indiscriminate slaughter alleged. The percentage of seals wounded or killed arn! not secuied is placed at 6 per cent. The Minister of Marine and Fisiieries is of opinion that the action desciihed in Ap|)cndix No. .'5, of the servants of the Alaska Connnercial Company at Robin Island, under lease to them Ironi Russia, in wantonly and maliciously slaughtering oa their I rookeries 10,UO() seals at one time, principally cows and pups, and destroying their skins for the avowed pur|)ose of insuring the failure of other sealers, is but another argument against securing a monopoly of the seal-fishing interest in the North Pacific Ocean for tlic Alaska Conuntrcinl Company, and while this one act has been more destructive tiian the combined operations of the other sealers in the Behring s Sea, it rendeis altogether erroneous the interfeicnce of United States' authorities on the plea of protection with the legitimate pursuits of sealers in the open sea. The Committee concurring in the above Report recommend that your Excellency k I moved to forward a copy hereof to the Right Honourable the Secretary of Stat(! for ihc Colonies, and that a copy be also forwarded to the High Commissioner for Canada for his information. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval, (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, ' ' , "." " Clerk. Privu Comril. I It } ■» ' •■ 1 . . ■ 1 -l-Jl; . 1 ! 1 ■ ■..)'_...;.. 1 . .1 :-.Ji I'll ■!. 1 -.tl 1 1 (■ ■ ■■ <» 1 : - •! .fii ,; {■ 1, *«■ ■ :>M J ■ .. '..i'. ,. ., r; t'[i-: • ■.. ■ ■ K ' .'A ■..,: ',. i: r '../ >l) 8SS . , ApjMjiiilix 1. Statements of rmHkul Ifunters. . ( Jamea Wiinoii, , r WAS ciiiiK'HtfT on lioiivil till' H('iiliiij,'-si'li(miicr " Tviiiiiiiili " mi Iicr vnyiific this yniir. Cliic of (lie hiiliti'i-.s \MiM iliDwiinl jii'i )icf(ii-c I'Mlciiti'i I'lcliriiiLt's Si'ii, (md I tcMik liis plaic. I Wiis mit hiinliiiL,' himIm alHUit 11 wi'ck, liiit till- wi iillifi' wiis Imcl, hiiiI I ;;iit cmly Iwnilv-lliiii' si'iils. 1 had IkiiI no i'N|KTiciii('. I ilNi'il ;i lii'cccli-liiiulinj,' sli(it-^,'iin, iiliil slmt scfils nl, ii iiilii.;i' of IVoni l(t to lAyiirilH. 1 lost one seal tlm)Ui,'li till' caivli'.isiu'.ss of tlio lioal lianils ninniii;^' the lioat over tlii' seal, whicli sank ilirrclly lunItT Miisl of NualM IohI by Inintuis arc shot at lonj^ I'linjics witli tlni lillc. One liiinti'l on the Tiiuni|ili" this yuar ;;ol ovcf sixty seals ami only lost oui'. I nt^viT saw it row seal with her yoiiny; K'niiln hiT. Out of till' twciitv-thrcc I ;^'ot, live or six woni cows cairyin;,' ihrir voinij;. (SiaiiftI) "JAMKS WILSON. Viildfin, liriliuli Cnlnmbiii, Amjiist !i, 1889. Wil/iiiiit Fciriiii/.t. I havo liGiui tlui!u ycaiH liuutiii;,' seals on th(! I'acilic Coast and in JJuhiing's Sua. In ISST 1 was on Iki,ui1 llie si'alin;,'-s(diooiu'r " Kavouritc," in 1888 on the' " Viva," and in I8HU on hoaid llii' " Tiiuni|)lj." Ill I'licli ycai'thc vessul I was on cnlcicd the lUilniny's Si'u early in .Inly.and lel't the si'a the latter |iarl i.r Aii'iiisl or early in Seiitenduir, i^xeept this year, when llii! "'rrinnijdi " lel'l the s(;a lai (he I llh .Inly, umlcr llireiil of seizure, after searched hy the United Stales' eiitter "liilsh." In IS.ST tlie hiinlers 1 WHS wilii were jiartly Indians and jmrtly whiles. In the, two last yoars the hnnlers were all whiles, usiiij; siicil-Ljiins and rilles. The rilles wlm(' used hy the more exiierieneed hunters and butter shots tor liiMfj-ran^iu shootinf,', up to 10(1 yard.s, but few hunters attoin)ited that niiif,'e. The ijenenil ranj,'e lor lilies is not over lil'ty yards, niul most shots iiru made at a less ran^'u. \ few hunters used the rille for all distances. [ use either rifle or shcjt-Kun, uccording to the ilisliuice and position of the seal and the couilition of the water. My lirst y(!ar I j,'ot about 400 seals. In },'ettint{ this inimber, I failed to rapture about twenty-live <li»l lit, nr killed, or wounded, but which escaped. In my second year I H<'t over oOO and lost nli(ait ihiitv. This year 1 i,'()t 140, anil lost only one. J have frequently shot from two to ti\'e seal in a biiiiili, and f,'ot them all. One day in 1887 I }{ot two bunches of five each and another of four, niul j,'ot the whole fourteen. Imliiiu hiniters use spears, and either i,'et every senl they throw at or it escapes unhurt, oi- but jliulitly wiaiuded. Inilians, it can be safely said, {-et ((very seal they kill. ( lacar Scarr, .a hunter on the "Viva" in 188S, ftot over GOO seals, ami lost only about twenty. The iiveni^'e inim)«'r lost by white hunters does not exceed six in 100, and by the Indians not six in 1,000. I have never .'ihot nor havo 1 ever .seen a fV^nuvle .seal with a young one beside or with her. It is very seldom a female is killed in I'ehring's .Sim, carrying her J'oung with her, and out of 1,000 killed nil till' const earlier in the seasr)u less than one-third are females carrving their young. (Signed) WM. FEWINGS. Vuloi-iit, llrUish Volnmlna, Avijust 0, 1880, Viqitain J. D. Warren. I am a master mariner, and have been actively engaged in the ilee])-sea sealing business for twenty years. I have owned and commanded sealiiig-vessels on voyages along the Pacific (Joast from 47' or 48' north latitude to 50° or .'57'^ north latitude within I'ohnng's Sea. 1 have generally enipkiyed ludiau.s, exeejit in 1880 and 1887, the Inst years T was out, when I had white hunters as well. Whito hunters use rifles and shot-guns entirely, Indian hunters use spears. I'lnllets weighing from "0 to 400 grains are used with rilles, and ordinary Imck-shot with guns, I'.oth rilles and shot-guns ire liivecli-loading, and of the iiest make. Seals are approached by the hunters in boats, to 1(1 or 15 v.iiils, lying generally asleej) on the water, Kreiiuently seals are taken alive when aslee)p, especially by . tile Indians, who, in their canoes, get within from a spear'fi length (14 or 15 feet) to :!() feet before they i thiow. Indians rarely lose a seal they strike, and if one escapes it is always but slightly wounded. ( )f <eals killed by white hunter.s, ]irobalily not over 10 per cent, are killed with ritie, which is generally [ used for only a long range, .Sealers divide the seals lor hunting purposes into two classes, " sleepers ' and "feeders;" or "travellers sleepers" are almost "Uvai's shot at from 10 to 15 yards range, and are seldom lost, I 'Feetlers" are shot at just as th 'ir c.i emerge from the water. From this fact the range is always I I'mni a few feet to 100 yards, the igh Uv. re fired at that distance. Hunters n.sc a " gall." a jiole about ' 111 IT li; feet long, with caie to t..ri' 1 ui i.s upon it, with which they catch the seal mid biing it into ihelidiit. If the seal sinks, the "g-ilV" is run down, and the .seal hookeil \ip. Tin; iirilisii selling- vessels iiii|iliiy more Indian than white b;;..iei>. My experience with white hunters is not so exiensive as pvitli Indians, but from what 1 ii.ive .seen while engaged in .sealing I can say that not over six in every I lllii seals killed by white hunters are lost or e.s^ape. Kxjierieuced hunters :,eldom lose a xeal ; the losses are chielly made by inex]ierieiiced hunters, only 'I tew (if whom are employed, lor the reason that a.s hunter.'^ arc paid so much a skin, inferior men 'innot make good wages. I have noticed no diminution in the number of seals during the twenty [128] 2 Z 2 ' ). !i i. . i'i % ^ 1^, P / vg 4V-' IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 1.0 1^ »2A |2.5 |J0 ^^" ■■■ ^^ BOO ^^= U£ Btt |2.2 I.I ! "^ |||P° m 1.25 1 1-^ III 1-6 Fnotographic Sdences Corporation 5< ^<^ f/, •SJ V ^ \ <^ 4 \ 33 WIST MAIN STREIT WEBSTH.N.Y. US80 (716)t72-4»03 % ^ -1* 3n6 years I Imvc bncn in tlio business, but if any cl'a'.iso at nil, nn incrciisc. Of tlio sonls Inkon nlnng thf Cfinst nhout ono-balf lire fenmlcs, inul of the f^jiimii^s nut nii>n! tlmn one-liiilf are with young. In Behrini^'s StMi not one in 10(1 of thos(! taiton l>y tlie liuntcrs are females with yiaiii;,' ; iHicause as sikui as the females canyinj^ their youn.n )i''t into tiie sen lliey i;o to the laiHichuK islands or rookeries, and iru few (lays tlieir youni,' are horn. Tht! cows renuiiii with iheir ycanii,' until they are i|nit«^ ahlr to tike care of themselves. 1 do not tiiink that out of llu' seals taken hy Indian ami white hunters iiion; than 30 [ler eeut. arr females aetiially breeding or eapahle of brei-din;^. "Old liulls," " liaehelors," " two-yi'ar-old imps," and " liirre cows" make u|i the ;,'reat lanjnritv Cow.s ni'tiially hreedin^' are very watchful, and while on the voya;,'e northward are ever on tin alert, so they are tliltieiilt lo take. On the other hand, the oilier classes above named make ii]i llie gicit ilas, of "slei'iieis" from which fully 1)0 jier cent, of the wlioli! catch of hunters is derived. I ikiw; saw or lieard of a " cow ' havinj; lier youny beside her in the water, either on the coit-^t nr in Behrinf,''s Sea. (Signed) J. U. ■NVAIJIIKS. Vicloriu, Itriluh (Julumhia, Aui/iist 10, 1880. Ctiptdiii Sieiraril. I have licen a master sealer for two years. In 1888 I commanded the " Arnniiah," and in IS89 the "Walter L. Rich," and during liotli years sealed nlont,' the coa.st from off Point Nortliwanl to Bchring's Sea. In 1888 I had Indian hunters, and this year white hunters. The Indians lose vm few seals, for if the spear strike the seal is i,'ot, and if the sjiear misses the seal of course csmjiis unhurt. The white hunters use ritles and sliot-gnn.s, the latter mmli iiiore tlmn the former. liillcH are nsed only by good shots, and then at only long range. The seals lost by white hunters after lieinc shot or wounded do not on the lower coast e.veeed six in 100, and on the Alaska coast and in liflniii;;',* Soa not over four in 100. On sailing I generally take 10 per cent, additional aniniunition for waste shot, that is, if calcu- lating on a catch of 3,000 seals, I would take ammunition for 3,300 shots. That was double tiie excess the hunters would consider necessary, and I never knew that j)ercentage of waste kIkjI to lie used. I never saw a female seal with her young Ijeside her in the water. Out of a catch of 1,423 seals this year, I had only fifty-five seals under 2 years old, i.e., between 1 and 2 years old. When nt Ouualaska this year, I learned that the Alaska Commercial Comjiany last year titteil mil two small schoonei-s belonging to private parties with large deep nets several hundred fathoms Imii;, which were set aci-oss the passes leading from llehring's Sea for the purpose of catching yoiiiii,' ,«i>als. One of tlie.se schooiit-rs got 700 of these young seals, about 4 months old, and sold them to the Alaska Commercial Com))aiiy at 2 dol. .''lO c. a]>iece. A schooner, the " S|)encer F. Baird," 10 or 12 tons, was then at Ouualaska fitting u]i to j;o to Akoutan I'a.ss for the same pnrpo.se this falL The law forbids the killing of all fur-bearing ..iiiimils in Alaskan waters by any hunters except the natives, yet such is done every year at Kodiak, Saiiaka, iiuii the Aleutian Islands by white hunters fitted out by the Alaskan Commercial Company, under tht agreement that the iixva must be sold to the Company. (Signed) II. F. SIEWAI.M), J/(M/(T, Victoria, British Columbia, Axujust 10, 1889. American schooner " Waltci- L. Jitdi." IValter House.. I was a hunter on the schooner "Walter L. Itich," on her sealing voyage this year. It was my first year on the I'acilic const, but I iiad had seven years' experience on the Newfoundland cinri catching hair-.seals. Tliis year on the " Kich " I got IHo seals and lost five, which sunk liel'ore I luiu'lii'l them. I ii.sed a shot-gun. The huulers on the "Itich" lost aliout the .same proportion, sonic is It w more, some less. 1 never saw a cow seal in the water with her young beside her or near her, nor liave I ever heard of such a ease. (Signed) WALTEU IIOU.SL Viciuriu, British Columbia, Amjust 10, 1880. if*mor<indum Estimate of the Amount paid for Wages, &c., of the Victoria Sealing Fleet, and the probable Ifetums. Dalian. Vrigei of cKir and hunt«n, )ior Tciiol .. ., ,, .. ., ,, 7,01)0 Iniuniiin! pri'mium on 8,000 .lolUra, at 7 per cent. .. .. ,. .. &60 Provitioiia, salt, ammunition, (kr. ,. ., ,. ,, ,. ., 3,000 Tdlnl per Tfnel . • . , , , , , , . , , For tnenlf vviselii rtnplojt'd ,i ,. ,. ,, ,, .\n average rali'li pi>r vcnntl at, lay •• Vitliie pt'r ftkiii, 7 dot, |j[l c. ,, Valiir for twuMiy veualt ., ,, 3,000 akini. 15,000 dollara. 800,000 „ 357 Two thousftnd skins is a low tstiirmto pel vessel, and were it not for tliu iistfrfureiicu o( the United States' cutters in JJeliring's Sen, the catch per vessel would average quite 3,000 skins. Captain WUliam CfJAcary. I anj a master mariner, and have been seal-hunting on the I'acitic; coast four yoars, tlni'n of which I was in Itehring's Sea as well. One year I had Indian hunlers only, and the three years 1 'lad white hanters only — all on the schooner " I'athfinder." My ex|K!rience with Indian hunters is tliai thev lose none — at nio.st a few — of the seals they spraiv. Tlie speiirs are '•' in'iirdiil," some with o;ie, .some with two iMMirds, and onno the seal is struck, capture is certain. Wiiite hunters use shot-Kuns and riHes, according to distance and state of water. On smooth water and at long ranges the rifle is generally used, but the majority of huntei-s use the shot-gun, and the great majority of seals are shot with guns. I'he nund)er of .seals lost by white hunters does not e.x<'e(.'d si.\ in 100, and many huntei-s lose macli less than that number. About half of the peals taken along the coast are cows, and ])erhaps two-tliinls of the cows, are with young. Putting a vessel's coast catch at 400, from 150 to 175 might bo cows with young. In Behring's Sea the avenige of cows with young killed will not average one in 100, for the reason that as soon as the cows reach the sea they go to the breeding islands where theii- young are born. I never saw cows in the water with their young with them. I do not think there is any decrease in tlie number of seal entering liehring's Sea. I never saw so many seal along the coast as there were this year, and in Behring's Sea they were more numerous than I ever saw before. This yeai I ihot forty -four seals and lost one. (Signed) WM. O'LEAKY. Victoria, Britinh Cdvnhia, Septcmhfr 12, 1889. Frfderick Qilhert. I am a seal hunter. I have been four years on Iward sealing-vessels, one year I was a boat rower, anil tlucc years a hunter. I have always l)een with white Inuiters, and have used the shot-gun and rille for .shooting seals. In 1887 I got 518 .seals and lost 14 ; in 1888 I got 244 and lost 5 ; in 1880 I got 454 and lost It) ; or in the throe yeai? 1 got 1,216 seals, and lost 35, or 2| per cent. I never shot or saw pups with tliu cows in the water, nor have I ever heard of such a case. Some hunters lu.se a few more than I do, but the most unlucky hunters I have met with did not lose twice as many. (Signed) riJKD. (JILliEKT. Victoria, lirili-th CoUimhia, Si'pttmhcr 12, 1889. \ \ Jl ! i\ \ 1 \ltcr L. Rich!' George. Ilon-t- '"' My finst year's sealing, ISSfi, was on board the "Theresa" from San Francisco to Victoria. We liift San Francisco on the !?Oth .laniuiry, and arrived at Victoria on the 7t'i April. I got 159 seals, of wliich 1 lost about 7. I used a shot-gun jmncipally, the rifle only for long mnge shooting, say, from 3(1 to 00 yards. At Victoria I left the "Theresa" and joined the " I'athlinder." The "I'athfinder" left Victoria on tlie 4th May Ibr I'elu'ing's Sea, and that tri]) I g(.t 442 seals and lost about 20. In 1887 I joiueil tlie " reiielope," anil left Victoria on the thiitl February. I got 018 seals during the ncasnu and lo.st :il. In 1888 I did not go .sealing, but in 1889 I wius engaged on the .schooner "Viva;" we left Victoria on the 19th .lauuary, and I got 734 seals during the season and lost ."57. I never saw a young puj) alongside its cow in the water. About one-third of the .seals taken (ui the coast are cows with pup or capable of beii g with pup. In liehring's Sea I got four cows with pups in them. (Signed) GEOllGE HOWE. TJiomn.1 Jfoice. In 188('), on board the "Theresa " and " I'alliHnder," I got for the season 397 seals, and lost about 20. In 1887, on the schooner " I'enelope," 1 got 510 and lost aliout 30. in 1888, on the " Lily Lad," I got 316 and lost 12. In 1889, on board the " Viva," I got 587 and lost 27. (Signed) THOMAS HOWE Albert J. Dertrani. This was my first year hunting seals. I went out on the " Annie C. Moore." We left Victoria on the 25th Jaiuuiry. 1 got during tlie sea.son 320 s«'als. I use a shot-gun principally. On the coast I !^')t about 25 to 30 females with yoimg in them, and in Behring's Sea 1 got about 6 or 7. 1 novel saw a cow with her pup alongside of hor in the water. I lost 21 seals that sank before I could reach tlicin, (Signed) A. J. BEK'l'KAM. 'ill 358 Statement hy Mr. Afilne. WITH ivfjuifl to tlip I'nrly history nf tlip scnliiif; inilustry in British Columbia, it is well known Uint, owiiij; to the spiirso Srtllciiu'iits on tho west coust of Viinoimvi'i' niul Qiicun f'iinrlottd Islands, the tnkiiif; of seals ami tlio hiinliiii; of the sea (ittcr was I'oIIowimI only hy oi'v Imliaii ))0])ulatioii, wli,) pnrsiiid this iiiiliistrv in their own ))rimitive manner, that is, hy nsinjrthe eanoe mul spenr, nnd selcldiu venturinj,' heyotid sii;ht of laii'l. Tlieir snei'ess was only known to the tnnlers who had stores or stations, or trading schooners usnally visitinj,' the west roast dnrin;^ that season ; the white i~.npiilalioi, «]i to Inter years heinj; I'hielly en>;aj;ed in other oceu])ations. Sealing and th'cp-sea flshinj; did not hvvh to attract inneh ntt<'ntioii. The few seals eani;lil hy tht^ Indians ndjaoent to the coast was not eonsidered suftieient indneenient to our seamen, ail<l also the habits of the seal, their rcjjnlnr yearly TMi};rntinii from ISehrinij's Sea, and their loiij,' journey and return followinj; tho food fisli, were nil nnitters not full known or understocHJ by our iieo]ile. At all events, it does not appenr that lliat knowledge was jmssessed of the seal life by our hunters, jireseuted any extra inducement to them to follow this linzanlons occupation. Up to the year ISllS-dd tla? sealinj; indu.stry remained in tho hands of the west ('oa.st Indians ; but in the year tStiti tho sehiHiner " Kate," ef Vi<'toria, liritish t'olnmbia, in eliiu'jjo of Dutch Harry ami Ofjilvie, left Victoria on a sealinfjaml trading; venture to the North Vaeiliciind Hehrinfj's Sea. Tlio success of the venture is unknown. It is said that this vovai^e was more for trading' than seal hunting, and :i8 oxiieditions of the former kind were plentiful at tiait time, the United States having ulK)Ut that time aequiriMl posses.sioii of Alaska. It is im)W generally believed that they did not enter Behring's Sea fm the imr]Hise of .sealing. At all events, the jiarlie; are now dead, and no authentic record can lie foiirnl us to their .succe.s.s (if any) as a sealing voyage. .Mter that lime some few years ap])ear to have ela)iHc(l before the sealing business was much noted, it being attractive to oidy a few traders engaged on tlic west coast in tht^ usual barter and exchange with Indians. The ])ione(as of the sealing industry, namely, .Tames 1>. Warren, Hugh McKay, and Williiiin .Sjiring (of whom the fiist mentioned only survives to im])ait the early history of the now important indwstry) reaped the rewaril of toil, and have retired to enjoy the fruits of their labour. About the years 187><-7'.l the schooners belonging to tlu? port of Victoria, British ('olund)ia, hc^'aii to exteml their voyages .seawards, and the migrations of the seals became Ixjtter understooil. Scliooncrs cruizing .southerly in the early spring months would meet the returning seals, bound northward. At this time the following schooners engaged in this tratiic : — "Thornton" ** Annii llerk ' "FitoriU'" *' Onward ' Owned hjr Captnin J. D. Worri-n. Ditti). Owned hj Ca|ilain llugti McKtf. Ditto. In the year 18S0 the .schooner " Mary Kllcn," a vessel (l;! tons, was purchased by William Sprin;', and added to the .sealing licet at N'ictoria ; and in the years ISSI-SL' auxiliary steam power was added to the " Anna Heck " and " Thornton," and several new vessels were built. The .sealing industry at this time was considcreil in a fairly prosperous condition. In the year ISS:!. the American schooner "San Diego," of San Francisco, of which DaniW Mel/'uu wiis nia.stcr, his brother Alexander .McU'an being mate (both Nova Seotians), fitted oul in San Francisco for the Xortli I'acilic anil liehriiig's Sea on a walrussing ami .sealing voyage. With a ciew of thirteen men they hunted along the west uoast of California and liritish Columbia, startiin,' alnrnt the 1st June, ISHo. " During the voyage, which lasted till tho end of Augu.st, they .spoke no vessel or Jtevemiu- cutter, nor had any coinmniucatiou with any om-. They returned to Victoria 'ifler a successful voyage. The following vessels wen^ engaged on the west coast n,s sealers in the years 1882-81!, but which did not enter Hehring's Sea. All wen; fairly successful: — Ht'honnert — ••Kiudrili'" " Aliri'tl .\duni8*' *' Annn Berk '* " l)(.l|iliin" " (.ir.Ht'r " " Onward " " Tliorntan " • W. V. S»y«Hril' " BUi'k Diamond ' Tons. 80 60 (C9) 40 60 77 29 60 H2 In the year 1884 the schooner "Mary Kllen," of Victoria, British Columbia, Daniel Mckai jiijfster, fitted out at San Francisco with a crew of sixteen men to hinit seals along the west coast, am. entered Iichring's Sea r.bnut the loth June and left about the end of August of the same year. Tilt voyage was .satisfactory to owners and crew. They pro»ecnti«l their legitimate and peaceful voyage tn the high seas without any int<'rforence froiu any one. Ill the same year the schoonei-s " Favorite," ".Anna Heck," " Alfred Adams," " Dolphin," "(Ir.Kr." "ttiiward," "Tliomt<iu," " W. V. Sayward," and " lilack Diamond," weri' all engaged in the scaling' indiLstry in the North I'luiitlc. hi the year I8.sr> — considered u pio8|terons one for sealers— the " Mury Kllcn " and "Favorilc," nf .Victoria, having enle,rcd Behring's Sea during June and leaving about the, end of August, and the other schooners, as per list attached hereto, hulited in the X:irth P>iv.if5c, but not entering: Behring.'(i Sea. . ,> .. ..^^ 35!) A iiunilxir of vi'ssuls were udik'd to tlic tleet in tlip follnwiiiK year (188G), iiiul tlic (!iitei']>i'i8ing (inn, l.'anio mid Miui.sie, liruuglit iiruiiud V»\n'. Horn tin' m;lio*)ni'r " rutiilindur." Tiiis latter led to soiiii' iiiniiij,Tatioa from (Nintcrn jirovinces of tliu Imrdy diiss of si'iimcn so well ndapt(Ml to the seidinj; iiidustiy. All the vessels elearin;; from VietoriH, British Columbia, entered Behrin;,-'.s Sen wilh the exception of the schooners •' Aetive" and ' Itnstler," lost oil' Vuneouvur's Island. Tlic! same year (ISKti) is also reniarkalilu for the seizures of the "Carolina,'' "Onwaiil," anil "Tlinruton," the altendin;; circumstunees of which is now a matter of history. The.se ves.sels, titted out at Victoria for sealing; in the vvaters of the Xorth Pacific Ocean and liehrin^j's .sea, and at the lime . of seizure (Island L'nd An},'ust, 1H8(>), were aliout "0 miles from the nearest land. The I'niled Slates' ]tevcnne-cutt*'r took them to Ounaliuska. The crews of the " Carolina " and •' Tlmrntou," with the exccjition of tlie captain and one man detained on lioaiil, were .sent to .Sin Krau(:i.sco, nearly l,(illl) miles from home, and turned adrifi to beg their breiul, and by ap^Hjaling to the diHi'ity nf the humaiu! to lind their way hack to their home« ou Vaueouver's Island. The crew of the "Onward" was kejit ut OunalnNka. The nuister and mate of the "Thornton'" were brought to trial liotoR' a Judge named Jiaw.sou, in the I'nited States' Di.striet Court at Sitka; and if half the .stories tlmt are told ai'e true as to the manner in which Courts are oondtictcd in Ala.ska, we cannot be surprised tt the verdict. The trial was a I'uice on justice, where intematiomil law or comity had no consideration. "The Britisher nuLst sullor," and he 'vas found guilty accordingly. The master of the "Thornton" wius .seiitented to thirty days' imprisonment and a fine of otio dollan; the nuite to thirty days' imprisonment and a fine of 'MO dollars. The master and mates of tlie "Onward," as also tlie olficers of the " Carolina," were likewise mulcted of similar jieuallies. Tlu^ master of the latter ves.sel, one James Ogilvie, un old man and a pioneer of British Columbia, well thuught of by owners and crews suiUng from Ids |iort, of Victoria, afUiv Bufl'ering harsh and iuhinnan treatment/ at tht; hands of the survants of the miglity liepublic which blatantly i)roclHimH its love for the right, was suil'ered to wander into wood, where he died from want and e.\}ioaure. The other nntsters and unites, after remaining in jtrLson for soveiiil months, were released by order of the (juvernor of Alaska niwn hi.'S being Ijcsought by the inhabitants of Sitka in the interests of liuiuaiii'.,y. They were turned out of confinement litenilly destitute, without food or .shelter, and com- pelled to lind their way back as best they miglit to their homes 1,500 miles distant, readied only by a long and costly voyage, or by the friendly help of the Indian and a canoo over a tempestuous wintry ocean. The story of jXKir Ogilvie, the taunts of an unscrupulous Judge, chai'uct«riziug them as pirates ami robbers, tiie Nubsci|uent im]>risoiiiiient in a foul Alaskan dungeon (lit only for a suvage Aleut), will long be liihl as a travesty on the humane acts of u friendly (.lovemment. The schooners have since lain on the beach at Ounalaska, worm-eaten and worthless. In 1H87 the (lovcrnnicnt of the I'liilcd ."^lalcs concluded to give these vessels u]), and in a letter from Mr Bayard to ;>ir L. \\\s{, dated the 1 Ith October, 1SH7, tin I'ollnwing extract aiipears;— " in the meantime, in acknowledging vfair note, L take wcasirm to 8t«tn my im]iression that if the three vessels sei/e(l and ordered to be rclea.scd have not been re-possessed by their owners, it is not beciiusc of any hindrance on the part of any official of this Government or failure to obey the mder for rt>lca.se, lait prol)alily because of the leinoteness of the locality (Ounalaska) where they were taken after iuri'st for adjudication, aufl the jiroceedings having Ixien in rem, the ownere have not seen pit)per to lirocce<l to Alask to re-]iossess themselves of the property in ipicstiou." Again, on the 1 3th October of the same year wc find the following from Mr. liayard to .Sir L. West :~ " Sir, " DijMirtiiieiit of Slat r, Waslitiii/toit, OclolHr 13, 1887. "Continuing my reply to your note of the 2'.lth ultimo inquiring the roa.soii for the delay in complying with the order i.ssued in .laiiuary la.st for the relea.se of the British vtt.ssels seized last year in Uehriug's .Sea, 1 bog h'ave to inform you that i have this day received a communication from my oollcagtie, the Attorney-Cieueral, informing me that his telegmni to the United States' Marshal at Sitka of the L'tith January la.st, ordering the relea.se of the British .'schoonefs " Onward," " Cai-oline," ami "Thornton," owing to sonu^ mi.Mnnception and mistake on the jiait of the official to whom it had Ken addressed, bad not been acted u]pon. A renewed onler has gone forward for their rtdease, as had lieen ilistinctly directed lust Janut 'v, and which I Jiad no rea.son to doubt had Ixicn promptly obeyed. (Signed) " T. F. B.w.Mii)." From the foregoing it naturally would be believed by all reasonable people that tlie Secretaiy of tlic United States ^ould have had due respect for the proprieties of international comity, and see that his (Uiler would be carrieil into elVecl before the clo.se of the ve 1887. Such was not the ca.se, whatever intervened in this diph)malic. shullle. It did not materiuii^e Iwfore the 1st Novendier, 1888, and acjt until the lOtli November of that year diti Messw. Came and Mnnsie receive the foUowing : — 1 " J>Utvict o/Aliida, Uiiilnl Sliilin' MiirnhnCa Office " Sir, Sillu, XoremUi- 1, 1888. " You are hereby authorized and directed to deliver to tlu' rightful owner, Messrs. .Munsie and Co., Victoria, Hritish Columbia, the .seized schooner " Caroline," of Victoria, British Columbia, her tackle, apparel, and furnituii', as she now lies in the Harl)our of Ounalaska. (Signed) " Barton Atkins, Uuikd States' AfariJial. " ¥.. H. Wall, Esq., United States' Deputy Collector of Customs, Ounalaska, Alaska." 360 " District of Alaska, Unitfd Slafeji' MarsluU'a Offief, " Qontlenion, Silka, November 1, 1888. " I liavo tlio honour to inform you that I have received from the honouralile Attoriioy-Oendml of the United Stiitu.i onlers to releiuu* to tho rightful owners the schooner " Ciiroline," lier tackle, !i|iparel, and furniture, as she now lias at the Harliour of Ounahiska, in tho district, of Ahisko. Tho onhsr on the Deputy Collector of Customs at Ounaloska to ihdivor to you the iiroiwiiy is herewith inclosed. " Very respectfully, (Signed) " Bauton Atkins, l/nited States' Marshal. " Messrs. Munsie and Co., Victoria, British Columbia." In tho year 1887 the vessels 'snumerated on list on p. 178 entered Bchring's Sea after finishing tho spring Sanson. Tlie names of tho schooners and dates of the seizure, together with dates of tlieir sali. at I'ort Town.send, W. T., where they were taken after post|>onementa antl delays, also appear. Tlipy were sold on the 2Cth March, 1889, currently report at the time disposed of at a nominal value. All tho vessels named on the list, p. 179, went to sea in 1888, pi-oceeding to Behring's Sea, ftiui wcro, with tho exception of the " Araunah," which was seized, successful. This seizure was made on the 1st Jidy of that year by Jie IJussian schooner " Ale.rander II," and taken to the port of Vladivostock Uussian Siberia. All the vessels enumemted on p. 179 went to Behring's Sea in 1889, and the return of the " Triumph " and capture of tho " Black Diamond," and subsequent escape, are all fresh in the meniories of our people, and need not be here repeated. In conclusion, I have omitted remarks on the many questions arising in regard to the seizure of our vessels, feeling a.ssiired that the Government is doing everything to bring the matter to a s\mei)- settlement Also in regard to the habits of the seal, many erroneous opinions being given in the American pi'cs.s, and by tiic paid oltieinls of the Alaska Fur Company as to the loss of seals by wanton slaughter (lus they term it) of our .sealers, I have made duo and diligent inquiry as to the i)ercfintn;;e of seals liable to be lost after being shot, and from what I have gathered, it umouuls, at most to only G per cent. The habits of the seal are now well understood. They travel singly and in pairs, not in ilrovt's or numbers as has been supposed by some, and to cover a large expanse of water. Tliey are fimml 400 miles westward of Vancouver Island, and migrate to Behring's Sea in Septoml>er and OctnlKT. The pups leave later in November, the temjierature of the water having some iulluence upon llitir movement, but they always return to Behiing's Sea in June of every year. Vessels cleared for North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea, 1885. SchooDfrt. Mtry Ellen FiTorite White crew and hanlen. White crew and Indian hunter*. Vkssels cleared for North Pacific Ocean, but did not enter Behring's Sea. Schooncra, Tout. Alfred Adami . , 69 Anna Beck .. . 46 Black Diamond .. 82 Carolina 32 Dolphin 60 Grace .. 77 Kate 58 Mountain Chief .. 23 Onward 35 Thumton 2» W. P. Say ward .. 60 ' W^ 361 Vk.iSKLH rlcaivil liir Noitli rm^ilic Oi-ciiii i\i\i\ Iti'liiiii','".- Sen, 18K('(. Schooner*. Tonf. Alfred Adams , . <>9 Anni Beck 4n Aetiro.. . .. ■• 12 Piilliuleri'il April 1, IMS;. Bluck Diamond .. 82 Uolphin 80 Patnrife .. ,, .. .. 80 Ciracn .. 77 Cuoliii* 32 Sriiid August •>, |88l°.. I>r United 8Ulei' (iiivcrnment. K<l« .. 38 MnunlainCliiur.. 23 Miry Ellen G3 Onward .. .. .. .. 35 SeiicJ AuKnst 1. 1880, by United 8taU«' GnTorniiicnI. Pent'lnpo 70 Pathfinder CO W.P. Hayward GO Thornton .. ., .. 29 SeixKl Augunt 1, IRHG, hy United 8Ut#a' GoTernmeiil. Tenia.. 63 Ruitlcr ., .. ., 29 Wrecked Kelirniry 20, 2887. " RuKtler " did not I'ntcr BehrinK's Si-n. ii Vk,ssels cleared for Nortli Pacific Occau and IJehrinn's Sua, 1887. Schooner. Ada Alfred Adums Anna Beck niark Diamond Dol)iliin ravorite Grace .. Juanita Kate .. Mary Tuyior Mountain Chief Mary Ellen PenelniK! Pathfinder Sapphire W, i: SaywarJ Triumph Teresa . . Viva . , Wandert-r Lottie Fairfield Ton.". K G9 40 82 GO Di^puaitiun. Seiied Aiiguit 2.'), 18H7, and aold by United States' Uovimnient at Port Townicnd, W. T., March 20, 18H!l. Si'ized July '.'. \h»:. iind sold by United Mates* (iovernnunt itt Port Townseud, W. T., Manh 20, 188'J. Seized July 12, IS3', and mid uy United States' Uovirnmiut at Port Towiuend. W. T., March 20, 18H9. SrimI July 17, IBK*. and aold by United States* Government nt Port Townaeud, .Marc', 20. 1889. 48 1 &8 1 43 1 23 , 03 1 70 1 fiO 124 ' 00 1 I,', ' 03 1 92 10 151) Seitfil July 1>, 1887. by Lniua SUtet' Oo- \i'rnii.rut, mid relraH-d under bonds. ^'1 m [128] 3 A Vksselh cluai'uil lor North I'ucilic Ucutiii and liuhriuga Sea, USH, Scliooiicrs. Tui». UiHpoiltiun, Annin C. Moun- . 113 Arniiitiih 71 Svlinl July 1 18HH, hy Kuminn ( iovmiau'Ul. Aurora 41 Hliu'k DiiiinoMil . Hi K«»iiriti' 90 Juaiiila 40 K>l« .. 58 Liljr .. C9 tCominf. Li'tilis , . •iS Miiry T»yli>r 43 Miiuntaiii I'liii-f . as Mwy E\Wn 63 ManKie Mo 71 Pi'lU'hipi' • • 70 Pathtimler ce SAppliire . 124 W. 1'. Ssywiir.l . 60 Triuin|ih . 16 Teivaa , . fij Triumpli 9S , Vi»a .. 9i ■Waiicl.Ttr 16 ~ • - Wlnifml 13 Vkssels clcaroil lor North Pufilic Oii';m ;iiul IMuiuf^'s Soa, 18S'.>. ■ii: Sehnoners Ariel Aniiii! C. Moort* . Aunira.. , (Hack DtaiimiKl • Favorite Juanita Kuln . . Lily . . Ix'titirt . . Marv Klleii . Marv Tavl.ir X!ol;^ie Jli- Motiniain Cliit'f . I'allilinder Minnie.. Penelepe Sapphire , \V. I>. Savnunl . Triumph Ten'sa.. 'IViuinph Viva . . Wanilerer Winifp'd Tiinf. 9(1 113 41 82 80 40 58 69 28 63 43 71 23 06 4G 70 124 60 98 63 IS 92 16 13 Scice<l July 11. Seiied Julv3I. SiMzed Au^uHt 27. Seiiiil July 13. Onlereil olf July 11. lk>si(le.s ciiir own twciity-fom' liritish vesfsols, ii is saiil tliiit thirty-two of other ^latioIl^■ liivi dcorctl ill San Ki-aiicisco ami Piip't .Sound ports, all intonilin^ to gn to Itoliriiu;'s Soa lliis year. > S ii: i 1 863 ''•'', '■ Owner.. VMM.'!. Tonnage. Viilui' of OutAt. White Mun. Indiaai. .1 . Dollars. ■ ■■ (r'l (•«rne »nd Misn«ii- .. ., MnrrTnylnr .. ,, 43 H.noo .'l 22 . .Ilvli n.i Dilio I'alhlindt'r nr. 10,000 22 • • ii..TJ.' rHito Viva .. •, it.' 12,000 22 ,, ■ ■.''.i II. Mclean.. .. .. Mary KMin ns M.OOO 21 , , ! 1 ;.' V. C. llikiT (ml To. .. Triuinpli . . '.IB 11.000 30 ,, «' Spring ,. Favorite ■ . Hit H.OOO 7 30 . 1. '.'ij DilM Ka(i> 5H 7.000 ■i :iu . Not known .. •■ Aurora .. II H.llOO 4 24 ,' .- ;•'..! Janitiitcn , . . * Minnii* .. .. .. 4(1 H.500 1 30 ^fnrvin anil <'ni •• .* Sappttiri' l'.!! l.'i.OOII ('> 40 M>-l)<inalJ ,. Winifrrd ,, I.) 2,:iiKi 1*1 1 '" A. Fmnk lllai-k Ulaninnd . . H2 ■j.rioo .^ 30 ■ Ilitlo .. .. .. Lily 119 n..'iOo .'i 36 .- ■. 1 (iny anil Mu>-* •• «■ I'enilnp' 70 10,000 20 1 •• .» .■ ■! I>(hIiI and ('n. •• •• M.(fKi<'M,- ;i lll.nOO 21 1 •• I.uniDHTi; nntl Co. . • . . W. 1'. Soyward .. no K.nuo .'» 50 Kill ami ('.(U'lu'l Juanita .. •• ., 40 li.ooo ti 28 Miiiire nnil lltirkftt •• .. Aniiiii C, Moore ,. 113 l.'i.OOO 22 , , Il'iliiniiton and Co. .. .. Tori-«a ,. li.'t 10.1100 20 ,, Ilui'knan ,. .. Ari.l .. 'JO 9.OO0 21 Indiana .. .. .. Mountain Cider .. 23 3,000 , , 1 20 I'aiinn and Co. .. Wandprrr ■ . . , 10 ,'),S00 3 ' 20 Muir, llrotlii'n Triumph IT) :i,noo 3 IS Indian') •• •• •• Li-tltia .• 2S 2,000 • • 20 l,4C4 2(MI,.'iOO 202 37,-> Memorundithi. I'.sriMATKs of tlie Amount paid for \Vn>;t'.s, &c,, of the Viotniin .*^i ulin^; Khct, ami tlm jmOialiUr Iiflurn.s. Didlari. Wages of crew and hunters, prr vcKsvl ,. ,, .. .. ,. ,, 7,0011 Insurancu prefnium on H.OOO dollars, at 7 per rent, ,. ,, ,. ,. rifiO l*ro>isioD8, salt, amniunitloii, <kc. ,. ., .. .. .. 3.000 Total per vojacl . . For tncntj vessels cniployi d An average catclt per vensel nt, say . . Value |)er Hkin, 7 do). 50 c. . . Value for twunly vessels ,, ,. 2,000 rkiiiK, I. '1,000 dollars. 3<IO,000 „ Two thousiuul skills is a low estiiiiiite (icr vcs.-cl, ainl wcrr it mil fur \\w iiitoifunmct; of the Uuitctl Stall's' cutlers in Behring's Sea, the cateh wouhl aveva^'o iniiti^ ,'i,(Mi(i skins |k'1 ve.ssui. r: I 4 Alipoiidix 3. Declaration of Carl A. Lniiillicni. Oily of Victoria, Provinco nf lUitish Columbia, Dominion of Canada. 1, CAllI. A, LUNDP.KIU!, of liie city of Vanrouvov, in thu I'mv ini'o of I'.iitisli Cnlumiiia, lute o£ ilic city of Yakohniim, Jaiian, lisiu'rman, do solcuiiily and simi rely dcelari! a.s fulldws : — 1, In tlin year 188.') \ was slii]i-kee]i(!r of the .'ichiKinev " N'atli Star," nf Yakoliaiiia afori^said. Tlic said schooner was enu'ayed in Imnlinj; and tishiiij; in f)kh<itsk Sea ami Kniile Islands. 2. In the montli of Septeinher the ,said schcioner was in the vieinity of liohin ISank, ur Island, retiiriiiiig from Cape Patience. One day towards the end of .said nidiith of Sepleiniier, I, with a number of others from tliu saiii schonner, landed on a lieaeh of said L'oliin Island. On the island I met the mate of the seliooner " T.e<in," a vessel in the emiiliiy "f tln' xVlaska Commercial Company as a watch vessel, about tlu! said Itobin P>ank, or Island. The said mate had with him about lifteen natives of the Aleutian Island.s. While on shore we discovered a threat heap of dead and rotten seals ]iile<l a^'ainst the clilf at the back of a narrow strip of smooth beach such as seals haul up on. I examined the seals, and found that ibcy had Ikiou driven into a heap, clubbed, and afterwards ii preat number had been cut and mutilated so as to destroy tho skins and hasten decay. The said male of the " Leon " was present, and I asked bini why he had killed til of tlicse thousands of seals— cows and pups. He repliecl, " That is to keeji any of these Vokohama Miow.3 from HCttiiif; anylliinj; this year." 1 asked him for his aiuhority for bcinj; on the island and killing tho seals, lie showed iiie a document sijined by tho Alaska Commercial L'ompuuy, diructinfj; lim not to allow any persons to land on the i.slano exeocpt the servants of the (,'ompany. I asked him itlio fjave him the paper ; be replied, lie could not tell. The document referred to was uailcd to tho vail of tho house occupied by the mate and liis men, [128J ' 3 A 2 F'iTf X Nttxl uioniiiiK I wi'iit Imrk to ilin twnoli wiUt tliiHy-llin>i< iiini, ibo ni'WM of my own vi<Mfii'l,Kivj Iho m'liiiiiiior " lldi'iin," wliicli wih also ul llii< Imnk. \V<< Ih')'iiii iit iiiin< In (Irti^ ilin ilciul itiMilit lo tiin wat<<r, iiml, iifUir llin'o iliiys iiiul iii^lilM luiril work, \\>\ pit Ihn Ik'ucIi cIi'iii'imI, Kvi'ty inikii wim Dnlcml to k(H>|> cotitit of IliK iniiiilH'r iif ili'iiil mi'iiIh Iio iIhi^^imI ntV llic lu'iicli, ninl wlicti llii< work witx iloim m, foiiml tliitl llio tnliil iiiniilH'i' in llin pile >viis lii>Uvi<i'n II.IIIM) niiil 10,001), iicinly nil iiiwh iiiiiI impj. Tlioro wi'm llioiiNinnlH ol' mouIn in lli<> unlcr, Ixil lliry wduIiI nut |iull mil on iIik Ixmu'Ii km iiimmmiiiI. nf ihn •tench ami llltli, \Vi< wii.sIhmI iIh' licnili im ilnin us w nilil, luul tniniil \\w f;nivi'l over ih fiir u.i wn Wi<rti nlilo. Sliortly II liriivy );iili< riiiiii< tin wliii'li wiimIiimI tlii> linirli i)iiili< clruii iipliii, nnil llio nciiU tllcn l)r);iin to pull nut. Ami I miiko lliiN Hnlcmn tli'cliiriitinn. I'linwicnllouiily lH'lii<viii){ llii> hiuiih In Im lino iiml liy vniiin «if Uio Aol r(<N|iM'tin}; cxtni-jmlii'inl milliii. (SiKiicI) ('. A. l.UNhllKIHl I88<.t. Docliirt'il iiiitl iilllitiii'il III tin- Cily nf Viclniiii, Itrilisli ('nliiiiiliiu, llin Tilli iliiy oT t'rliiluT, ».ii llornni iiu', (Siniii'd) A. I, \\y{.jv.\. A Xotiin/ riihlif III/ /!,it/<il Jiilhonlif in mill /or till' I'i'itniii-r nj Unlish i'lihnnliui, No. '-'50. . . . InlernntionnI ArltitiDliim mnl /Vitcc Assori^ilion to llir Afinijiiis of SuHkIiiiii/ Pecrmlirr 7.) -(HrrriiT'l •10 and \ I , Oiiirr Tfrnjilr, Slniiitf, l.nixfon. My I-«ml. Dt'i-rmlwr (i, INHU. Till'i ('i)ii\iiiittoe of the liiti<rn:itiiinal Ai'l>itriitinii mid IViicc i\Ksiiciati()n Imvc Iiml np\'\\\ liroui;lit iiiuKt tlu'ir iiotico the vciy iiiisatisriictoiy slalo of iiHaii's t)i;il. Iins ioii!; prcvnilcd r«'f;i\nlin^ tlio seal lislicri<;s in Hrjiiiiif^'s Son niul tli« adjacoiit ci)nst-i. 'I'lio procroilinus of tlio I'liiti'd States' cnii/.ois in (Ji>i/.iiip iiiul ticnuostraliiif^ — and, ill soMU' casi's, coniiscatiiif; — tlio vessel)* iind carf;()es of Hrilish siiltjccts en(;ai;ed in ri.slu-iics on the o|H'ii sea, have euuseil--as, no th)iii)t, your Lordship is too will aware exeessivc and |>rolont;ed irritation amongst our (ellDW-eiti/eiis of tlio Canadian Dominion, as it woulil appear that thnse in eoinniand of Her Majesty's vessels on the Paeille Coast tec! themselves, for some reason, uiiahle to cheek the hij^li-lianded proceedings of tlic Uiiitwi States' erni/ers ; wMii" those measures of redress, lonj^ sineo demanded hy ller Majesty's Goverimient, and ostensihly eoneedeil hy the United States' (lovornment, (lo not appear to have ever heeii carried out. or eouipeiisation made to the victims of admittedly lawless 8ci/.uies. Our Commiltee are i.ioro free ir uddressinj^ your Lordship on tliis siihjeef, inasnuuli as tlie I lineiples of iiiteniational law involved in these transactions, and tlio violatinii of cstahlished liei;ul;»tions alleetiiii; the freedom of the seas, hotli seem so <rle.ir, that tlioy feel persuadi'd that the wiiolo suhject has only to ho hr«>U!;ht afresh to tin; sirions attention tif the I'nitetl States' Ciovernmcnt to insure ascttlomenl of tiio (pic.-.liiiiis at issue and 1 lie feiiuinatioii of a i.ravc occasion for irritntion and complaint on the pari, of Ilcr Majesty's Canadian suhji'ets. In venturinu; thu< to press tiiis international (juestion on Iho attention of ller Majesty's (Joverniiient, our Committoe take leave to refer to your Lordship's despiiteli of tiie lOili Septeniher, 1S?7, iu which the whole history of the ease is clearly recapiliilatal, and the juilieial principles concerned arc cogently indicated. Our Committee trust that now that puhlio attention has heen aj^ain drawn to this cause ot piolon^zeil liietion. llio arguments in the uhove-named valuahK; State paper will he again placed hefoic tiie authorities of the United States, and feel persuaded that an nniieable settlement may now he speedily sought for imd attained. Wo have, &c. (Signed) W. RLVllTIN WOOD, Vice-Chtiirmun. J. FRKDK. GKliliN, Secretary. N«. '.'.M. Thi MiiiifiiiK iif Solistiurij In Sir ,!. l'iiiiiinl'uli\~(Siili.Hiiiirf ti-lnjriiiihnt.) Sir, I'lirriijn (i//iir, Dnrrnhn 7, IH*-!). I II.W 11 lii'i'li iiil.iiiKul (hill II lrlii;iiiiii has hccil nciiviil hv Ml ■ Sccirliny uf Miito liir till' ('i>hiiii«'H Iruiii liif (i viMiii>r-(ifiiri'iil ol ( 'iiiiaihi, ii-|initin!{ thai. Iiis ('oiiiicil h .vo ,.\|ii(>.siil ihi' (iilhiAiim vii'sv ill iTjj.iiil III ifi)|Haiiiin ni'irnliiitiiiiiH with Ihc; Unitrl S) itiV (](ivrriiini'iit on llir siihircl. ol' the lt('hi'iiii('M Sra kcuI fishery, It is hrhl liy Ihr (iiivi iiiinctil o( Ciiiiaila, on oviilcnii- which lliry ilrciii HiiHieiciil, Ihut no nil iliiiWf r\is|4 III tlic I'NtiTiiiinntiiiii ol thr kciiI (ishi ly in l^i'hniiK'M Scii, They llicrct'in' contend thai, if t'-c Unitcil Slates' (iovernnieiit me not ol' Mint opinion, that (iovciiiiiient Hhnnlil iiialu' the |iro|MmalH wliieli they eonsiiler iieeessary lor the |irol('c:ti(m (if till- s|iirieH. If, however. Mio lenewal of iiei;olialions is roiiHidered e\|iidient liy Her Majcsly'H Ciivrnnii'iit, Canaila will iinree to llial eoiirsi- on tli«! loilowiii;; cimdilions : — I. 'That (lie Uniliii Slates' (•iiveiniiieMt HJiail first alianiloii any elaini to regard i\w Hcliiinn's Sea as a f«ri;r f/i/iiM/m, and that any exist ini,' legislation in the United HlateK, aIiIcIi wiiiiid Hceni to sn|i|iort that <'laiin, shall Ik; either amended or i'e|iealed. 'J. That there sliall he a direet lle|ireseiilative of Canada on llu! I(iiti%h OoininiHHion iiiliirteil witii the iieKoli.ilioiiH, in the sanii; manner m at tlio neKotialions Cor the Treaty iif \Vasiiin:T;toii in IH7I, the l''iHheiie» (.'oininissioii under that Treiity, and tli<! Treaty of \Viisiiinj;ton of hist year. ;l. That any eum Inhiuim wliieh may he the ruKult of thu nej^otiafioiiH shall lio referred III the Dominion (ioverninent for ap|iroval. \. That (iieiit r>i'ilain and ('iniada, without Itiisnia, shall conduct any ne;r()iiatioim lor riini|Mnsafion li-r losses to llritish snhjecls arisin;; out of the aelioii of the United Sillies' authorities. 1 have to leiu'est yon to inrorin me whether you consider that thew! propoKals will furnish the ImscH of possihhr iie{u;otiation, I am, &c. (SiKiiud) SALISIUJllY. n ll 1 m II ii No. 'i.yi. Sir J. Vitunvcjitiv In thv Murnuis nf Halishnnj. — {Rrcnv)-d hi/ li:lrtjriiph, l)rri;ml)Pr 10.) .\!y lord, Wimhinijlon, Dncnmbnr 12, 1>8J). 1^I^IKDIATI^I,^ on the receipt of your IjOidsliip's tclcmam of the 7tli instant, (uiiliiinin<; certain pioposals of the IJoininion Goveintncnt in relation to the Hchring'H Scu (|iii'sliiin, and in»lrnctin;i; me to report whether, in my opinion, those pro;)osalH fiirnislied a liasi'^ of poBsihIc negotiation, I obtained an interview with Mr. liiaine, and I sounded him on the sulijcct ot Canada heiiif; directly reprchcnted in any diplomatic nc!j;oliatiinis which iiiiglit he renewed for the Kctllement of the controversy. Mr. Uhine at onc! expressed his alisoliitc ohjection to such a course, lie said the question was one between Great Britain iind the United States, and that his G ,vernmcnt would certainly refuse to negotiate with the Imperial and Dominion (iovcrnmcnts jointly, or with (ircat Hrilain, with the cimditiun that the conclusions arrived iit should be subject to the ap])roval of Canada. 1 (lid not touch on the other proposals, lor the follow ini;; reasons. As regards the abandonment of the mure cluunum claim, no such claim haviiii; been officially asserted by the United States' Government, they would natuiaiiy object to witlulrav/ it; and as regards the suggested amendment of their legislation, such n proposal I would gravely embitter the controversy, and is hardly necessary, as 1 conceive that there is nothing in the terms of such legislation, if correctly interpreted, with due regard to international law, which supports the mare clausum claim. Lastly, it has never been suggested that Russia should intervene in the question of I compensation, but on that question also the United States' Government will insist on I negotiating with Great Britain alone. Si r J a(i6 III my opinion, therefore, tlio proposals of the Dominion (Jovcrnmont do not riiriii,||;, baaii of pLSsiblc negotiation. I have, &(!. (Signed) JULIAN I'AUNCKI'OTK No. 253. Colofiiiil Ojfice in Foreign Offirr. — {Received J^ccember 10.) Sir, Downinij Street, Deccmher H>, |H<i!i. WITH reference to previous eorrcspondcnce, I inn directed by Lord KiuK^ford i, tmnstnit to you, to be laid before the Miiniuis of Salisbury, a copy of a telec^runi frum the Oovernor-General of Canada, contuininj; the views of his {Jovennnent as to Hh Eroposed mgotiations at Washington for the establishment of u close time for seals in ehrinuf's Sea. As at ])rcsent advised. Lord Knutsford is disposed to tliink that the i:(iii(lition» (b), (c), ill), upon which the Dotninion Government arc willing to enter upon tli( negotiations, may bo acceded to; and his Lordship trusts that the puint referred lo in („| may niove capal)le of arrangenu nt. I am to take this opportunity of transmlttin}? to you, for Lord Salisbury's i'.'.foriuatiDn, copies of tiic despatch and the telcgrnni to which this message replies. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosurc 1 in No. '2~3. Lord Knittuford to Lord Stanley of Preston. My Lord, Dovnimj Street, Novemher 2ii, 1880. HiillMnjcsly's Government have been informed that a proposal to renew at Wasliins. ton the di])lomntic negotiation commenced last year between the Governments of the United States, Great Uritain, and Russia, with a view to prevent the extermination of firals hi IJchringV Sea by their wholesale destruction duihig the breeding season, would be acci'|]t- able to tlie Government of the United States. In commencing negotiation it would bo desirable to obtain, in the first place, an admission from the United States* Government that they have no rigiit to claim the Bchring's Sea as a mare clausum, and thus admission will of course remove a serious impedi- ment which had embarrassed the discussion of the various questions at issue. Another point to be kept in view, would be the consent of the United Stales' Government to },'ive such directions ns may be necessary for the prevention of any furl her seizures of Canadian vessels in the Behring's Sen, though it may be observed that the negotiations ought to hi satisfactorily concluded before April, until which month there would be no question of further seizures. AVitli regard to the compensation payable on account of past seizures, there is reason to believe that the United States' Government would propose that this subject should lorm a part ui' the gem nil negotiations. I think I am right in concluding that the Dominion Government is now prepared to concur in any reasonable arrangement for the establishment of a close season in Behring's Sea, and I therefore anticipate that your advisers will agree with Her Majesty's Govern- ment ill thinking it expedient to commence the suggested negotiation at an early date, llcr Majesty's Minister being assisted during the negotiation by an officer or officers of tln' Canadian Government. You will understand that the conclusions which may be arrived at by the Represen- tatives of the three Powers would l)e reported to their respective Governments for consi- deiation, and would not bo binding upon the subjects of any Power which has not accepted them. I Inue explained to the High Commissioner for Canada the general nature ol this proposal, and I shall be glad to learn by telegraph that your Ministers agree wilii Her Majesty's Government that Tier 'ila.iisty's Minister should be instructed to propose formally to tlic United StatcH' floveriiim'nt tlic resumption of tlio tripartite ncp;otiation at \V«gliingtoii ii. tln! event of Ills recoivinE: satisfactory assurances from Mr. Illainc on the subject of llie compeniiation ciuimcd for IJritiHli Hubjects, anil the ccssalion of seizures. ■ • ' F have, kc. (Signed) KNUTSFORD. IncloHurc 2 in No. ^.in. Lord Knutsfortl to Lord Slnnleji of Preston. (TclfKrapliic.) Downintj Street, Dereinher C), ISS9. IIOI'K that Colonial Covcrnmcnt ufjree to proposal indicated in my despatcli of 23rd NovcMiher on the seal fishery (picstion. Her Majesty's Government anxious for reply by telegraph as soon as possible. Inelosure ii in No. 'J.'i3. l rd Slanleij of Preston to Lord Knutsfonl. My Lord, (iorernmenl Houne, Ottawa, Devember U, 1889. I HAD the honou: to send to your Lordship to-day a telegraphic inesi-au;e, of which the followinc; is the .• d)9tan • : — "III reply ti. v^ur teles^ram Privy Council, at u njcetin;: luid t')-(iay, recommend a reply to be sent as follows: — "I. Satisfactory evide;iv,c is iield by Canada that the dantjer of cxtcrinination docs not really exist. •' L'. 'riiat if United States' Govcrmneiit liolds different opinion tiie jjroposal should lie made by them. "If it is deemed ex|)edieiit by Htr Majesty's (Jovernment to initiate proceedings, Canadian authorities consent to a reopening oi negoti>itions on tiie Ibllowlii;; eoiulitions: — •' («.) That the IJnitetl States i-'iaiuhju its claim to consider IJehriiij^'s .Sea as a ninre iitttu>uin, and repeal all lci;islation seemint; to support that claim. "(A.) 'lliat as in the rases of the VVashinHton Treaty U 71, the Fishery Commission under that Treaty and the Washinj,'ton Treaty 1^88, Canada shall have direct representation Ion the British Commission, " (e.) 'I'he approval of Canada to any conclusions arrived at »hall be necessary. " (f/.) Russia to be excluded from the negotiations in reference t o compensation and I jcizures." I have, &c. (Signed) STANLFA" OF PRESTON. No. 2.'j4. Forclyn Office to Internnlional Arhilration and Pence Association. |(Itntlemen, Foreign Office, December 11, 1880. 1 AM directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to acknowledge the receipt of your letter loftlie 0th instant, in which, on behalf of the Committee of the International Arbitration land Peace Association, you call attention to the question of the seal fisheries in Behring's hea. I am to state, in reply, for the information of your Committee, that this matter is I receiving the earnest attention of Her Majesty's Government. I am, &c. (Signed) P. CURRIE. M 368 No. 255. Colonial Office tc Foreign Office. — {Receieed December 12.) * n.irnt Downing Street, December 12, 1S8D vylfH reference to the letter from this De|)artincnt of the 24th October. r(Iutin"to the seizure, by the United States' authorities in Behring's Sea, of the Britisli sciiooners "Juanita" and " Pathfinder," I am directed by Lord Knufsford to transmit to you, tolx; laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, for such" action as his Lordsiiip mav think proper copies of two despatches from the Deputy Governor of Canada, forwarding claiins foj compensation for loss sustained by reasoa of such seizures. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTOX. Inclosure 1 in No. 2.')i). Deputy Governor Ritchie to Lord Knufsford. My Lord, Ottawa, November U, 18f)9. WITH reference to my despatch of the 21st ultimo, dealing with the seizure of the British schooner " Juanita " in Behring's Sea, I have the honour to transmit herewith a copy of an approved Report of a Committee of the Privy Council, submittin;; the claim to compensation advanced by the owners of that vessel against the United .'States' Government for loss incurred by reason of her seizure. I have, &c. (Signed) W. J. RITCHIE. Inclosure 2 in No. 255. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Piivif Cnuticil, approved by his Excrllvnc^ the Governor'General in Council on the Qth November, 1889. ON a Report, dated the 4th November, 1889, from the Minister of Mariiie and Fislieries, submittiiijr, in connection with the seizure in the Behring's Sea of the l)ntisli schooner "Juanita," the circumstance's attending which were detailed in a Minute of Council date 1 the 1-llh September, 1889, formal statements and claim to comi)ensatioii for loss incurred by reason of the seizure of said vessel, and tlic transfer of tlie Unitcii States' Revenue cutter "Richard Rush" of her cargo of sealskins and twelve spt-ai's, as well as the estimated balance of sealskins to complete the vessel's catcli had she not been interfered with in the legitimate pursuit of her calling, which, with incidental expense;, aggregate 14,095 dollars, The Minister observes that the claim is advanced by Mr. Richanl Hall, of Hall, Gocpcl, and Co., of Victoria, British Columbia, part owners and business inanaj^crs, mkI by Mr. Charles E. Clarke, part owner and uiaster of the vessel in <|Ucstion ; ami he recommends that this claim be forwarded through the proper chai.nel to Her Ma jt sty's Government, for transmission to the Government of the United States. The Commiltte advise that your ''Excellency be moved to forwaid copies hereof to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies for transniissi;':: to the (iovcrn- meiit of the United States, as recommended by the Minister of .Vlaiinu and Fisheries. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council, 369 IiicIoHorc 3 in Ho. 23S. Affidavit of Charles E. Clarke. Citv of Victoria, Province of British Columbia, .., Dominion of Canada. I. CHARLES E. CLARKE, of the. city of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia, Dominion of Canada, master mariner, do solemnly and sincei-ely declare as follows :— 1. I am the duly registered owner of sixteen sixty-fourths of the Biitish vessel "Juanita," schooner-rijiged, ol the port of Victoriii aforesaid, the other owners ot said vessel being Richard Hall, merchant, Wdliain J. Gocpil, merchant, hotii of the said city of Victoria, and Hans Hclgeson, of the same place, tishennan, each owning an equal number of shares in said vessel. 2. On the 7ih day of May, a.u. 1889, I cleared the said "Juanita" at the Custom- house at tlic said j)ort of Victoria for a scaling and hunting voyajie in the North P.icitic Ocean and Behriiig's Sea. On tlie said voyage I was master of said vessel, and had a sailing crew of four men. The "Juanita" sailed from the port of Victoria on the ^tii ^[ay last, and was equipped and provisioned for a full season's voyage and purposes above mentioned. 3. On tiio west coast of Vancouver Island I tool< on hoard fourteen Indian hunters, and then sailed noitliward. 4. On the 2nd day of July last the "Juanita" entered Dehring's Sea through the Ounimuk Pass. 5. Eiirly in the morning of the 31st July last the United States' Revenue cutter "Richard Rush" steamed up to tiie "Juanita" and demanded that I heave my vessel to. I (lid so, and was at once boarded by three officers from tlie " Hush." Theollicer in charge asked me if I had any sealskins on board, and asked me if I had taken any seal in Behriiig's Sea. I told him 1 had come into the sea on ti'.c 2n(l Jidv, and had about GOO skins on board. He then reported to the Captain of the " Rush," informing me that he would have to seize my vessel and her cargo. 6. The Captain of the " Rush " ordered the sealskins to be taken from the "Juanita" and put on hoard ihe "Rush," which was al once done, the number taken being 600. A ',xcelU'iicii the ■ deniund was made by the boarding officer for my ship's papers, and all guns, ammunition, and spears on board. He obtained tiic slifp's papers and spears (twelve in number), wliich were taken on board the " Rush." V. Hereto annexed, marked "A," is a copy of the certificate of seizure given to me by ihe officer from the said steamer "Richard Hush," who also instructed me to proceed to Sitka, in the territory of Alaska, and to deliver a sealed letter which he then handed me to the United States' District Attorney of that place. 8. Being unable to continue scaling and hunting, 1 sailed out of Bebriug's Sea, and arrived at Victoria aforesaid on the 30tli day uf August last. 9. On my arrival at Victoria I handed the said sealed letter to the Collector of Customs. 10. [lad the "Juanita" not been seized, and her hunting implements taken away, 1 verily believe that the said "Juanita" would have made a total catch in Behring's Sea the full season of j889 of not less than 1,800 sealskins. Declared at the citv of N'ictoria, British Columbia, by the said Charles E. Ciari<e, the Ifith day of October, a.'d. 1881). (Signed) CHARLES E. CLARK K. Before nic, (Signed) AiiTiiuu Louis Beltea, A Notari) Puhlic by Royal authority in and for the Province of British Columbia, renidinn and prnclisiiig at Victoria aforenaid. HI I ^' ^ ;i [128] 3 B 370 Inclosiiro 4 in No. 255. Certificate. United Statex steamer " Rush," Behring Sea, To whom it may concern. Lat. 55° 42' N., Long. 17(i' 40' IV., July 31, 1889. THIS will certify that I have this day seized the British sciiooner "Juanita,"of Victoria, British Columbia, C. E. Clarke, iiiasler, for violation of Law, section 1936, Revised Statutes, United States, and tui\en possession of his ship's papers, consisting of registry and clearance. (Signed) L. G. SHEPARD, Captain, United States' Revenue Murinr. This is the exhibit marked (A) referred to in annexed Declaration of Charles E. Clarke, made before me the )5lh day of October, 1889. (Signed) A. G. Bklyea, Notary Public. Inclosure 5 in No. 265. Affidavit of Richard Hall. City of Victoria, Province of British Columbia, Dominion of Canada, I, RICHARD HALL, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British Coliiinbiii, Dominion of Canada, merchant, of the firm of Hall, Guepel, and Co., do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows : — 1. That the said firm of Hall, Gocpel, and Co., are the owners of thirty-two shares ol the hereinafter-mentioned cchooner " Juauita," of the Port of Victoria aforesaid, and arc the business managers of the said schooner. 2. The said schooner was in May last sent by the said firm on a sealing and huntin:; voyaiie in the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea. 3. The said schooner returned to Victoria thn last of August, having taken, fis 1 am informed, and do believe, by the captain of the said schooner, on said voyage, G52 seal- skins, of which number the said firm received only thirty-two skins, sent (o us from said schooner by the " Wanderer" before the '• Juanita " entered Bchring's Sea, said thirty- two sealskins having been taken outside Behring's Sea. 4. The remainder of tlic sealskins taken by the "Juanita" was, as 1 am informed I b,' the said captain, and do verily believe, taken from the ".luanita " on or about the 31st d;iy of .July last, when said schooner was in Behring's Sea, by the orders of the Conunamler ol the United States' steamer " Richard Rush." 5. The market value of sealskins at the said Port of Victoria on or about the I 1st October instant, when, in the ordinary course, the ".luanita " would hav arrived after! a full season's voyage aforesaid, was 8 dollars a skin. G. From the number of sealskins taken by the "Juanita" up to the said 31st .luh I 1 verily believe that the said schooner would, in a full season, have taken at least l,800j sealskins. 7. At the same time the sealskins were taken from the "Juanita " by the officers ui| the said United States' steamer " Richard Rusli," there was also taken by t>e said oinier* as I am informed by Captain Clarke, and do believe, twelve spears, the value of wliicli w.i.-j 3 dollars each, and the ship's papers. 8. The said firm of Hall, Goepel, and Co., claims damages against the Government oil the United States of America for such taking and detention of sealskins, spears, and ship's papers, based upon the value of the skins actually taken, and for 1,178 skins, the b:iianoe| of an estimated catch of 1,800 sealskins by the said schooner for full season of 1889 iiiT Behring's Sea ; also for the value of the said spears, and (or the cost of obtaining a iiewi set of ship's papers from the Government of Canada, and for legal and other expenses iii| connection with the preparation and submission of this claim. n. That hereto annexed, marked "IJ," is a statement in detail of such claim. 10, That upon the sailing of the said schooner in May last, advances were made td the hunters based upon a full season's catch, and said hunters will, upon payment of suclj claim, be entitled to and will receive their share thereof. 1, 1889. 'uanita," of tioii 1956, Murine. of Chalks ih Columbia, solemnly and two shares ol jsaid, and arc and huntin: taken, as 1 age, 652 seal- us Ironi said said thirty- am informed )out the 31st Commaiiiler lor about the arrived after lid 31st .luly It least 1,801) the officer^ ulj said oirKer-,! I of which wail lovcrnineiit oil Irs, and sliip'>| Is, the h'.iiancel m of IHHDiil Itaining a nwi Ir expenses ill I claim, ■were made \i Iroent of suclj en And f, Richard Mull, make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the Act respectinj? K\tra-Judicial Oaths, Declared by tlie said Richard Hall at tiie city of Victoria, British Columbia, the l-lth day of October, a.d. 1889. ,>, ,. , (Signed) RICHARD HALL. Before me, (Siained) A. L. Bklyka, ' • 'in A Notarji Public by Royal authority in and for the Province of British • ' ■ Columbia, re.sidiny and prartisiny at Victoria aforesaid. Inclosure in No. 2')'), (B.) I)ei'.viu:d Statement of Claim by Owners of British Schooner " .luanita " against the Government of the United States of America. 620 scnlbkins tiiKcn from "Jiiniiitii'' in ISeliriii<;'» Sea by United States' Rti'iiiner "llicliard Rusli," lit 8 dollars per skill .. .. 1,178 seiil>kins, liidanee of an estimalcd catch of 1,S00 sealskins by the "Juanita" for the full season of 1889 in Behtiiig's Sea, at 8 dollais per skin .. .. 1 2 H[)cars, at 3 dollars . , Cost of obtaining new ship's p:ipers ., .. Legal and other expenses incidental to the seizure , . Dols. c. 4,9(i0 00 U.l'il 00 30 00 25 00 230 00 i'otal (Signed) .. 14,695 00 RICHARD HALL. This is the exhibit (B) referred to in the i.c'^laration of Richard Hall hereto annexed, niafle before me the l-lth day of October, 1889. (Signed) A. L. Belyea, Notary Public. Inclosure 7 in No. 256. ' Deputy Governor Ritchie to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Ottawa, Nonember 15, 1889. WITH reterence to my deapatcli of the 23rd September last, relating to the seizure in Behrinfj's Sea of the British schooner " Pathfinder " by the United States' Revenue cutter " Rush," I have tlie honour to forward herewith a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council sul)mitting the claim to compensation of the managing owner of that vessel for the loss sustained by rea;jon of her seizure by the United States' authorities. have, &c. (Signed) W. J. RITCHIE. Inclosure 8 in No. 265. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Priry Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council on the 9th November, 1889. ON a Report dated the 5th November, 1889, from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, submitting; in connection with the seizure in Behring's Sea of the British I sciiooner " Pathfinder," the circumstances attending whicii were detailed in a Minute of I Council dated the 14th September, 1889, formal statement id claim to compensation for i incurred by roasou of the seizure of the vessel and the transfer of her cargo to the I United States' Revenue cutter " Richard Rush," as well as the estimated balance of seal- Uins to complete the vessel's catch, had she not been interfered with in the legitimate pursuit of her calling, aggregating 2(i,TG6 dollars. .^^ ,,,^, ■,;; .-."^vt ii [128] ■ ' " ;i B -J ■ 3?2 The Miiiister observes Ihiit the chiiin is udviniced hy Mr. Willinm Muns'e, of the firm ot" Caine niul Mimsic, of Victoriii, inannginj; owner ot the vessel in (piestion, and he reronimends Ihiit this chiiin be forwarded through tiic proper elmnncl to Mer Majcbty't Governnunt for transinission to tiie (jovernniciit of tiie IJiiited States. The Coinniittee advise tliat your Kxcriloiify be niove<i to torward copies hereof to tiie Bi{;ht Honourable the Se<retaiy ot State foi the Colonies, for transmission to the Govern- ment o( ;br Inittd Slates, as recommended by the Minister of Marine and Kisheries. All wiiirh is respectfully submitted Ibr your iixcellenev's approval. (Signed) ■ .lOlIN J. McGKlv, Clerk, Privy Council. Inclosiirc 9 in No. 2")'). !■! I i; Affidavit of Wiltinm Miinsie. City of Victoria, Province of Hritisli Columbia, Dominion of Canada. I, "WILLIAM ]SIUNSII'],of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia, Donn'iiion of Canada, mercliant, do solt innly and sincere ly declare as follows : — 1. I am a meinber of the tiiiii of C'arne and Munsie, mereliant, of the said city of Victoria, the said firm bcinir composed of Krederic Carne, Junior, of the same place, iind myself. 2. The said Frederic (^arne, .Junior, is the registered owner of sixteen shares of the hereinafter mentioned schooner "Pathfinder," of the Port of Victoria; I am the rcj^isterciJ owner of sixteen shares of the said- schooner, and the said firm are rcfjistered owners oi tho reniiininp; thirty-two shares. I an) the nianaginir owner of the said schooner. 3. The said schooner " Pathfinder" cleared at the Custom-house, Victoria, afoici-aiil, on the 17th day of Apiil, a.d. 1889, for a huntin<j and scalin<j voyage in the North Pacilic Ocean and Hehrins's Sea, and sailed on the 18ih day of April, a.d. 1889. 4. On the said voyauic William O'Leary was master, and Andrew Davidson was niiitc. The crew consisted of a cook, twelve seamen, and five hunters. 5 On the 24th July last I received from the said " Pathfinder " by tho schooner "Wanderer" from the noilh, ,')5S sealskins which had been cauyht by the " Patl'.findir'' in th', Facitie Ocean on her way northward to nehrinfjs Sea. fi. On the ;{()th August last the said " Pathfinder " returned to Victoria aforesaid, having on hoard an officer from the United States' steamer " llichard Hush." Cii|)taiii O'I.eary reported to me that on the 29lh dav of Julv last the said United States' steamer "Richard Rush" hailed him in Hchring's Sea about .'i?" 24' north latitude ami 171° :i5' west longitude, and ordered him to heave to. The " Pathfinder " was imniediatcly boarded by otIiccMS from the said " Richard Rush." The officer in cliarge seized the " Pathfinder " and toon away all the sealskins on board (^54), eight shot-guns, four rlHcj, six boxes of anununitiou, a quantity of salt, and the ship's papers, lie left • n otiiceron board in charge, and ordered Captain O'Leary to t>;ke the " Pathfinder " to Port of Sitka, in th Territory of Alaska. 7. At the time of such seizure the sealing season in Behring's Sen was less than lialf gone, and I verily believe that had the '• Pathfinder" •'^mained unmolested in Hehring's Sea until the close of the season she would have cauj,(u not less than 2,100 sealskins. I \ have this on information given me by the said Captain O'Leary and by Captain Baker, of the schooner " Viva," also owned by us and managed by myself, who was in the Bihriiijj's Seu the whole season of 18S9. The hunting eciuipment of the said tv^o schooners Has about ecpial. A few days before the " Pathfinder" was seized as aforesaid, she was spoken hy the I "Viva." At that time the " Pathfinder" had 419 seal.skins on board, and the '« Viva " 420. The " Viva " cau-^ht in the full season in Behring's Sea 2,182 sealskins, and for the | year a total of 3,641 skins. 8. In the year 1888, and this year 1889, the said firm of Carne and Munsie shipped I their sealskins to London on their' own account, and hereto annexed, marked (B), is a I copy of the account sales of p rt of the catch of the " Pathfinder " for the year 1888 ; and I hereto annexed, marked (C), is a copy of the account-sales of the said *' Pathfinder's"! catch of seals in the spring of 1889, before going north. The sealskins per first account I sales (1888) netted the said firm at Victoria, British Columbia, about 12 doh 25 c. perl skin, and, per the second account sales, they netted the said firm about 10 del. 30 c. perl on was mate. 37a ikin at Victoria, Uritisii Columbia. The cutrh of 1881) was a spring catdi, which always contains a larger percentage of small skins than the summer and full catches, and hence realize less per skin on an even market. 9. I, for myself, the said Frederic Carne, Junior, and for the said firm of Came and Munsie, cliiim damages aituinst the Government of the United States of America for the seizure of the said " I'athfinder," and for the taking and detention of the suid 8o4 scuU skins, and for 1,^46, the balance of the estiiuated catch of 2,100 in Bchnng's Sea for a full season ; also for the guns, rifles, ammunition, salt, and 6\\\\t's papers seized as a."ore- gaid ; and for legal and other expenses incidental to, and arising out of, such seizure, and the preparation and submission of this claim therefor, and interest thereon at 7 per cent, per annum. 10. Hereto annexed, marked (A), is a Statement in detail of such claim. 11. 1 am in constant coininunicatiou with n)y agents in London, England, and from information I have received from such agents, I verily believe tliat the price of summer and full catches of sealskins from Noith Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea for 1889 will be fully up to the price obtained for the " Putlifinder's " catch, sold as per account-sales (B), hereto annexed, namely, 12 dol. 2*)c. per skin n(!t, at Victoria, British Columbia.' VJ. That 1 have paid. in lull the crew and hunters of the " Pathfinder " for the season of 1889, including the sums due to them in respect of the Stii, sealskins seized as aforesaid. And I, William Munsie, make this solonm declaiistion, conscientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the Act respecting Extra-.ludicial Oaths, i Declared by the said William Munsie, at Victoria, the 18th day of October, a.d. 1889, before me. (Signed) WILLIAM MUNSIE. (Signed) AiiTiiUK L. Belyea, A Notary Public Inj Royal authority in and for the Province of British CohanLia, residing and practising at Victoria, British Columbia. Inclosurc 10 in 'So. 255. (A.) Statement of claim by owners [of schooner " Pathfinder " against the Government of the United States of America, for seizure in Belli iiig's Sea on the 29th July, 1889. 864 fc'lll^kin9 (seia d). 1,240 tliiiis, Imliiiioe ot estimated cntcli l)y " Pathfimlcr" fjr full season 1889 in . l)cliriiij''» Si'ii, 2,100 Rkiiis, at 12 dol. 25 c each ., .. 8 shiit-^uii.1, at 2o diilliirs each .. .. .. .. .. 4 rifles, nt 2^) dcilliirs cneh .. .. .. .. .. 6 lioxcs uinmuiiitioii, at »ay ,. .. .. .. .. cult .. •• .. ,a .. '•■ .. .. Cuht or (ibtuiiiiii^ new ship's jiapers .. .. .. .. Legal and otiier expciisis ari^illg out of, and incidental to, such seizure .. Total .. .. .. .. ,. .. Dol. e. 25,7'25 00 440 00 100 00 200 00 25 00 25 00 250 00 20,765 00 And interest thereon at 7 per cent, per annum until paid. (Signed) WILLIAM MUNSIE. This is the Statement of claim referred to in the declaration of VViliiam Munsie, as marked (A), hereunto annexed, and made the 18th day of October, 1889. Before me, (Signed) A. L. Belyea^ Notary Public. ii»| ;;- ,.• ( '/ 1 • !_ m\ m :; w li ' Uniled Stales' Rerenue Sleamer " Rimh," Lat. r)"" 24' A'., Sir, Lpikj. 171" 55' W., nelirim/s Srii, July -JO, 188U. You are lii'rrl)y appointed a spi'cial olHcer, and are directed to proeecd on boiird the scliooncr " I'atlifiiidor," of Victoria, Kriti»<li Coliinihin, this day seized lor violation of section 195G, Hevised Statutes of the IFnited S atcs, and nssuine cliarj^c ol' said vesHel, jut olficers and crow, twenty v.liite inen all tolil. Exreptini; the navijifation of the vessel, which is reserved to Captain (J'Loary, imd which yon will not interlcre witii, uidess you become convinced he is proceeding to soim other port than your port of destination, in which event you are aulhorized to nsBUine full ciiarge of the vessel. Kverything hein;; in readiness, you will direct Captain O'Leiiry td make tin; best of his way to Sitka, Alaska, and upon arrival at that port you will report in person to the United States' District Attorney for the District of Alaska, and deliver Kj liim the letter so addressed, the schooner, her outtit, ami the persons of Captain O'lxaiv, Mate, A. Davidson, and set the crew at liberty. After being relieved of the property aiiii persons entrusted lo your care, you will await at Sitka the arrival of the " Rush." Respectfully, (Signed) L. C. S\\FjVA]i\), Cnplain, United Slnf-:,' Jlevenue Afarinr, T. W. Hunter, Special Olliccr. WILLIAM MUNSIK. London, July 14, 1889. {Prompt, July 18, IHSQ.) Account Sales. Sold by order and for account of Messrs. Carne and Munsie, a. p. sale. Per " Pathfinder." Lot. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. C mid M, 1'. 6 and p. 1 1 cnxka united fur-seal gkini. 07 Bmnll fur-soal Mnf, nt 50j. cncli 101 lurgt' pups ditto, nt S3s. I'ncli 74 miiliilint; ditto, lit 5'2». each .. 97 siiiall ditto, nt 44s. cncii 35 " I'x " ditto, nt '27*. oaeh .. .. 1 iniddliii<; ditto, nt 31>. oncll 2 Miinll ditto, at 31>. vai'h ., £ t. ,/. Ui7 10 (1 L!07 13 n 192 H 213 8 47 r. (1 H 4 3 2 1) 380 Discount 2^ \)vr cent. June 24 — l.aiidiuj; elinrge?, telegrams, Ac. . . . lIou)iiiig and striking, 380 at 3.«. Oil. per 100 Piling iiwuy to sorter, 380, nt Is. lO^il. \nr 100 Weighing i'or avcrngc, 100, at Ms. C>d. per 100 Ocs-ing for nssortuient, 380, iit 2.?. (!((., per 120 Counting nt delivery. 380, nt lit y*/. per 120 Kent on 380, nt p'. 120 wk., 14 wks. Showing for public sale, lotting, ie. .. Allowance, 20 jwr cent, on X2 18s. iil. ., Assorting for snle, 380, at 5s. 2^(/. per 100 . . I'uhlie mlc clinrgi's, ndvertis-iug, &e., (> lots, at 3.t. Gd. Fire iiisuriincc. | per cent. • . . . . . . Commission, 2^ per cent. . , . , . , 897 10 • • • . 22 8 9 875 I ;i £ s. </. . 1 3 9 . 14 3 . 7 1 . 2 U . 7 U . 4 10 . 4 . 11 3 3 17 1 . 10 R • ' . • 3 S . 19 10 . 1 1 . 2 4 11 '' ■ \ . 22 8 9 — 30 11 845 4 (Signed) CULVERWELL, BROOKS, and Co. WILLIAM MUNSIE. H 8 (1 r, (1 4 2 n i-> Tliis is tlu! oxiiibit iniirkcd " C " referred to in tl>c decluration of William Munsie, made iicfore luc; tlio !8th day of October, I8H9. . .. (Signed) A. L. BKiiVKA, Notary Public. Per " Pathfinder." 1.01. I. 2. :). 4. 6. 6. 7. «. !». I'. 10 onnkn halted fiir-aciil Hkint. lit Miiiiill fiir-HC'iil NkiiiN, lit 4'Jt. rncli 110 liiritr liilp" (litlo. nt TiH.*. I'lirh ,. 107 iiiicl(lliii|{ ilitlc), nt .'iHf. (>n<.-li .. AO iiiinll (lilti), lit !'>\t. rncli .. !l "I'X." ilitti), at 27». ciicli 2 nii(lilliii); ditto, lit 27«. rncli HI liir){(' pii]is iliito, nt f>2.f. rni-li .. H2 lnr){<' |iii|i4 ditto, nt I'l^x. cncli . . 71 iiiiildl'i^ ditto, at S'J.«. rnch ni tiiiall liilto, lit l.'lt. cnitli ,, £ t. rf. 31 17 ni!) :iio C l.^O 9 12 3 (1 t) 11 210 12 217 G 1«1 12 (w; l.'l SCA Diacouiit 2^ p'jr cent. A'mftnlitr 1 — IinndiiiK clini'^os, trli');ramH, &p. ., .. . HiiUHiiiK mill Htrikin^, .'>(!.'>, nt !!«. 'Jil. jin' 100 I'iliii-; awny to (.orttT, ')(i!'>, nt l.». \i)hl. \trr 101) '\Wii{liini; tor nvoiajfc, 150, at 2.v. fiif piT 100 ('(■Hsiii); liir niSDitnieiil, h(>5, at 2j<. M, per 120 . Counting; at dclivrry, •')l!5, at \.i. •\il. iicr 100 Kent 1)11 .')>'■'), at fi p. 120 p. wk., f> wk». Miowiii^ I'm' piildir Halo, lotting, ike. .. .Mlownnpr, 20 jirr cent, on £l 1«. KW. . Assiutiiij; liir fiilc, .ICwJ, nt .^.v. 2i(/. per 100.. . Piihlii' side cliargc'i, advcitisiii^, Ike, !) lots, nt 3». Crf. For iiifiuiMiirc . . .. .. •• Cumini-.Nioii, .0 jK'i' cent. .. .. ,. . l.SO.'i If 37 13 10 1,407 19 f >. ,1. 17 1 1 2 10 3 9 U 9 5 11 11 9 16 11 4 18 10 10 4 4 2 (! 1 9 4 1 11 C 1 17 R 7.'> c S — 84 f) « 1,383 12 f) December 4, 1888. (Signed) WILLIAM MUNSIK. Tiiis is tiic exhibit marked " B " referred to in the declaration of William Munsie, made before mc the 18th day of October, 188S). (Signed) A. L. Bklyea, Notary Public. Messrs. Cnrno and Munsie, We have this day sold for your account at public auction the undermentioned goodj; ill conformity with the sale conditions. Prompt, the 4th December, 1888. Discount, 2^ per cent. Ex " Pathfinder." P. 10 caskK. Lot. 1. 2. 3. 4. S. «!. 7. K. 9. 13 small .saltod I'ui-seal skius, nt 1 10 laii;c' .)iip'< ditto ,, 107 inidillin}! ditto.. ., •59 small ditto . . . . 9 ex f^mall ditto . . .. 2 middling . . .. 81 hir^c pups ditto ,, 82 ditto, ditto . . . . 71 middling; ditto ,, .. 29 unall ditto .. .. 2 ditto, ditto •. ,, 49s. 5bs. 58«. 51». 27s. 21 s. r,2s. 52t. 52». 43i. 43(, cacli. I -S1 f! ;.l! .li: m. m m 376 Ex "Viva." V. 33 rnnki. L«t. 10. 3 wi^K fiir-ornl nkiii!*, lit 10 mi-lclliiiK tlilto.. I!. 47 Kiiiiill <litli> 13,13. 3(10 Inruo pupi) ditto 14,17. 373 (littn, ililto IH, 31. 4)10 niuMliiiir <littu.. 33. 3.1. 300 (liitii. ditto 31. tl.'S ditto, ditto 3.1. 3H. 400 Riiiall ilitto 30. 100 ditto, ditto 30. &!> ditto, ditto :il. Un px Mini) ditto . . 33, 30 liirijr ditto 3.1. 30 niidilliiiir ditto 34, 10 niiiiill ditto 35, 10 grey ditto 47. SI. lU'/ii/ /i.rr. Totnl. 0,580/. 12#. 4r/. 70#. rnoh in: AHi. ft.1i. fiflii. Alt. r,!ii. sn*. 46<. 47f, II 4n». It 33.1. 11 4»i. 4I(. 331. 13i. (SignctH CULVKRWKLL, BROOKS, and Co. Cur,VKUwi;iiT,, Mu();)k.s, and Co. 27, SI. Marij Avr, London, February 2, 1^89. livsult of Sales of Salted Far-Seal Skins, i7,i;i;i Nortli-wi'Rf rii,i>t 7 „■ , in il,.ii(> I.nlMis Ulaiitl ) Tlicro wns again a i^ood diMimiul ('or tliis iinportaiil iirticli' at the sales licid on the 1st instant, and .-dl cla>isfs sold tvaddy at tlio advanced prices cstahii^lu'd al the Novfiiilur auctions. The f>kins wcrr cliirlly i)tnciiast>d l)y liic linj^lish, Freiicii, and American buyers. There is every indication of prices 'i?inj; maintained. PuicES. Mid(lliii>;.s and niimll.s SmnllN l,ar(;c pups ., Miiiolii'fj; ditto SiMiill ditto ,, Kx ciiiull ditto K\. ix. small ditto Norll l-\V08t Cont. t. S. 30 olO 39 46 30 5.1 2.5 65 •.>2 41 19 38 15 34 I.oVo< Is luiidn. 9, «. 2lVo41 39 30 27 33 19 30 16 31 With Culverwcll, Brooks, and Co.'s compliments. Messrs. Came and Munsie. m CuLVERWiiLi,, Brooks, and Co. 27, St. Mary Axe, London, November J), 1888. Special Resalt of Sales of Salted 7ur-Seal Skins, November 9, 1888. 100,000 AInska .. .. ) 9,003 Nortli-«e>t Cuost '• offered and sold. 14,333 Lobos Mand . . ) There was a large attendpnco of bnyers at these sales, and throughout active cnttipetition prevailed, and on all classes t^n impqilant advance was established. In liie Alaska collection -the smaller sizes realued relutivcly tJie highest prices. We tjuote 377 niiil(ll<nK<*i Biimlls, aiul Inrgc |iii|m, 2R per cent, to 20 per cent, dcnrcr, and ini(l(llinp;ft nnd gniiillK, middling; pupH, small pups and extra Hniull pups, 4>') pur cent. t(j H per cent. Iiiglu-r. The 9,00.1 Nortli-wcKt. (/'oust contiiincd one fine piircfl wliicli nMlizcil extremo rates, and on other parcels an average advance ol' 20 per cent, to .')() ptrr cent was established. The I •),<').'{.') fx)l)OK, Islands skins contained one good parcel of 2,000 Hkins, which rcniized 40 per cent higher rates. The other assortments were not of a dusiruhlo description, hut 20 per (;ent. higher rates were paid. The lew Alaska skins dressed ir. their natural state hy a well-known ICnglish Arm, sold as follows : — Middlinf.M and smalls, MiOs. each; small, I1S«., 119.v. ; large pups, O.3.I., 0I». ; iiiiddiirig |)nps, 7H,v. ; small pups, (l(i»., 07m. ; extra small pups, t'i.'iv. each. These prices include the cost of dressing. PllICEH. AliiHkn. Nortli-wciil C«-nst. I<oli<n iKliindii. t. $. f. 1. •. ,1. I. ,1. Win , , 2:1 to 2H 2!t '• to ao t» MiiltlliiiKH iind miiiilU 08 to 120 .3;i 15 • • MidtlliiiKH .. , , . , . , H8 2!» \r> \ 27 (1 at) SmnllH (IH 110 L'!» 51 / I.iiruc piipH 02 <)2 20 M 24 ;t7 MidilliiiK ditto .. .. .. fiU HI 21 51 21 (» 37 II Siiuill ditto 42 00 lU .'i!) 12 al ICx. Niiiull ditto fit) OU M 2U H 1) 21) U Kx. ex. finiidl ditto . . , .. • • 11 20 Qicy ditto.. .. .. i) 20 1 li 8 With Culverwell, Mrooks, and Go's coinpliincnts. To Messrs. Carne and Munsie, Odd Fellows' Buildings, Douglas Street, Victoria, liritish Columbia. No. 260. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received December l-'i.) Sir, Downing Street, December 13, 1889. I AM directed hy Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, for the information of the Martjuis of Salisbury, a copy of a telegram which he has addressed to the Governor- General of Canada lespectiiig the proposed negotiations at Washington on the subject of a close time for seals in Behring's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosure in No. 256. Lord Knutujtrd to Lord Stanley of Preston. i (Telegraph. c.) Downing Street, December 11, 1889, 9 p.m. IN r'-ply to your telegram of fith instant. Sir J. Fauncetote telegraphs: Mr. Blaine Says that his Government have never I asserted mure claumim doctrine, and will make no disclaimer, but that the question will be disposed of by international agreement for close time. United Stales' Government do not agree to Canadian representation in negotiation I as to close time. Proceedings would not be in the form of a Commission, but a Diplo- jmatic Conference. British Minister would be advised by Canadian Assistant; and as onclusions would not be binding unless accepted by Governments, it would seem unnecessary to press for direct representation of Canada. Russia would not intervene in negotiations as to compensation to British subjects. i 11 H Hil m 1 i.i [128] 3 C \. 378 '• ' No. 257. Colonial Office to Foreign Office, — {Received December 14.) > Sir, Downing Street, December 14, l.^H9, WITH reference to the letter from this Department of llic 13tli instant, inclosin;; copy ot'n telegram which had been addressed to the Governor-General of Canada, relatiiii: to the |)roposcd negotiations at Washington on the subject of the establishment of a close time for seals in the Behring's Se.i, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a ropy of a telegram received from the Governor-General, in rqily, communicating the views of his Government on points connected with this matter. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTD.N. Inclosure in No. 257. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. (Telegraphic.) {Receired December 14, 1889.) SUBSTANCE of Resolutions passed at meeting of Council yestcrdiiy : — Mare rtaiisum doctrine has been asserted by United States of America, by instniitiiii; its oftieers to seize vessels in mid-ocean, by setting up that doctrine in the Courts, bv obtaining condemnation of ships on that doctrine, and by selling the property of Canadiaih under such eondenmation. Canada e.xpects British Government not to conclude arrange- ment unless Behring's Sea declared in it to be free. She adheres to opinion that ngrcciiRnt as to close season and preservation of seals should be subject to her approval as one of the parties chiefly interested in the question. Aj;reement as to close season should be terminable by each of the Parties to the Treaty. Canada fails to undcrstanci objection of the United States of America to a Canadian being direct Representative of Her Majesty's Government ; but to avoid delay will defer witl.out further protest to course decided on by Her Majesty's Government. V.'- No. 258. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received December 16.) Sir, Downing Street, December 16, 1889. I AM directed by the Secretary of State for the Colonies to request that you will inform the Marquis of Salisbury, with reference to the telegram from Lord Stanley of Preston on the proposal to resume negotiations respecting the Behring's Sea (a copy oi which was transmitted to you in my letter of the 14th instant), that his Lordshij), after conferring with Sir (/harles Tupper, is of opinion that the concurrence of the Canadiun Government in that proposal is now sufficiently complete, and that Her Majesty's Minister at Washington may be instructed to make a lormal communication to the United States' Government on the subject. Lord Knutsford observes with satisfaction that the Dominion Government, although strongly impressed with the necessity arising out of the acts which it recapitulates in the first sentence of the telegram under consideration of concluding no arrangement 7\hicii does not either comprise or rest upon a definitive assurance as to the freedom ol the Behring's Sea, is now willing to waive the requirement that a declaration by the United States' Government to that effect shall precede the resumption of the negotiations, and to leave for future con.sideration at what time and in what manner this assurance shall he obtained. On the second point raised in the telegram. Lord Knutsford thinks there can be no (]uestion as to complying in some form or other with the desire of Canada that no rules as to a close season shall be finally adopted unless she concurs in them. As the negotiations between the Representatives of the three Powers will be a diplomatic discussion ail referendum, and as Great Britain has no special interest in the Behring's Sea exc pt on behalf of the Canadian fishery, this country could have no object in assenting to any conclusions unacceptable to the Canadian Government. The tpleuram does not state the reason for which the Dominion Government proposes 379 I, I ?>>*{). , inclosing in, reliitin; of a clnse •aiismit to I from tlic on )U)ints ,ISTON. 4, \m).) ' instvufliii!; Courts, by if Caiia(iiaii> 11 de arraiige- it ngroLMiu'iit 18 one of tlip arties to tlu' inerica to a avoid (Ida; irnment. 16,1880. hat you will Stanley of a (u copy oi irdshij), after he Canadian ty's Minister [nitod Statcj' tnt, although luhites in the enient •Ahich tedom ot the ly the United luons, and to ance shall he le can be no ^t no rules sis negotiations liscussion ml la exc.''i)t on Titing to any lent proposes ; th»t any one party to the Agreement shall have the power of tcrminatini; it, and, on thia point, it will be desirable to consider the text of the Resolutions of the Privy Council when received ; hut l^rd Knutsford apprehemls that, as the Dominion Government considers it demonstrable that no close tune is needed for the preservation of the seals, (t fortiori it holds that any clohc time which may be prescribed in the first instance may ixwsibly. uft*"" trial, be found needlessly injurious to the fishery, and slumld be practically subject' to revision. As the Dominion Government withdraws its stipulation for the direct representation of Canada in the negotiations, it will not be necessary to discuss this point further at the pifscnt time, and Lord Knutsford concludes that simultimoously with the discussion as to the close time, a Commission, comprising a Canadian Representative, but upon which Russia will not be represented, will consider the compensation to he paid in respect of the seizures of liritish vckscIs, and other losses arising out of past interference with them. Lord Knutsford would therefore propose, with Lord Salisbury's concurrence, to reply to this tcUiirain that Her Majesty's CJovernment is glad to find that the Dominion Govern- Mieiit consents to the negotiation in the form proposed, and will consult thiit Government at <tai;"~i and conclude; no agreement as to a close time without their approval, and retpiests that a Hcpresentativeof the Dominion (Jovernment may be ready to proceed to Washington ;is soon as Sir J. Pauncefote has received his instructions. I am, &c. (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. No. 269. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. iJir Foreign Office, December 10, 1881). I HAVE laid before the Marquis of Salisbury your letter of the 10th instant, in which voa inclose copies of two despatches from the Deputy Governor of Canada, forwarding flninis for compensation for losses sustained by the owners of the British schooners •'Juanita" and " Pathfinder," in consequence of the seizure of those vessels by the United States' authorities in Behring's Sea. His Lordship directs mc to request you to inform Lord Knutsford, in reply, that these claims will be considered, together with those of other owners of vessels which have been seized, in the negotiations which it is proposed to conduct with the United States, and the lomnicncement of which is waiting for the consent of the Canadian Government. I am, &c (Signed) P. CURRIF. No. 260. The MtirquiK of Sitli^bw i Sir ./. Pauncefole. — {Substnnce telegraphed.) Sir, Fo, 'ign Office, December 17, 1885). I COMMUNICATED to the Secretary of State for the Colonies your telegram of the 9th instant in regard to the question of reopening negotiations with the United States' Government on the subject of the seal fisheries in Behring's Sea. The Governor-General of Canada was made acquainted with the views of the United States' Government, as expressed in that telegram, and a reply has been received from him to the following effect : — ■'The Government of Canada expects that no arrangement will be concluded with the United States by Her Majesty's Government in which it is not expressly declared that the Behring's Sea is free. " They adhere to their view that any agreement as to a close season and the preseivation of seals should be made subject to the approval of Canada, as one of the paitics whose interests are primarily involved ; and they consider that each of the parties to the Treaty should have the power of terminating the close season Agreement. "The Dominion Government are unable to understand why the United States should ohjecl to Her Majesty's Government being directly represented by a (Canadian Delegate, but, in order to avoid delay, they are willing to defer without further protest to the course decided on by Her Majesty's Government." I am, &c. . (Signed) SALISBURY. 'I >1 hi I. . tl ^;J| r 128] 3 C 2 380 No. 261. The Marquis of Salinbur^ to Sir J. Paunce/ole, — {Suhitance telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign Office, December 17, 1889, 1 HAVE to inform you that tlic Secretary of State for the Colonics has hnd under hid consideration, in consultution with Sir ('iinrles Tupper, tiic views of the Ciuiadinn Government, conmuinicnted to you in my despatch of this diiv's date, respecting; the proposed reopening of negotiations with the United States on the t)ehrin<;'s Sea (|uc8tion. Lord Knutsford is of opinion that those views express with auHicient compictrnesH the concurrence of tlic Dominion Government in the buses which would render 8Ucli negotiations possible. Tlu'y are willinu; to abandon their former demand that, before the opening of tl,p negotiations, the United States' Government should nuike n declaration disclaimin^r any pretension to regard the Behring's Sea as a mare clausum. The condition under which Canada is to he consulted before the tinal acecptancu if any rules as to a close season would appear to present no diflictilty, inasmuch as the discussions will be ad referendum. Her Majesty's (lovernmcnt are not yet in possession of the text of the Resolution ol the Canadian Privy Council, recommending that the close-season agreement should be terminable by both parties to the Treaty, but there would seem to be nothing unreasonable in such a stipulation. Although the Canadian demand for a direct representative has been withdrawn, ImA Knutaford is of opinion that a Commission upon which Canada, but not Russia, should be represented, might consider the question of compensation for losses ariiting out ol' tiie action of the United States' authorities at the same time as the discussion on the close- season agreement is being carried on. Lord Knutsford will inform the Governor-General of Canada, by telegraph, that Her Majesty's Government are glad to learn that the Dominion Government consent tu the reopening of negotiations in the form proposed ; that the Dominion Government will be consulted at all stages of the discussion ; and that no agreement as to a close season will be concluded without their approval. Lord Knutsford will, at the same time, suggest that a Can Jian representative should hold himself in readiness to proceed to Washington as soon us you have received your inftructions in regard to the negotiotions. You ore now authorized to make a formal connnunication to the United States' Government in conformity with the instructions contained in this despatch. 1 am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 262. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, December 17, 1889. IN reply to your letter of the 16th instant, I am directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to transmit herewith, for the information of Lord Knutsford, a copy of the instructions which have been addressed to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington,* dire ting him to make a formal proposal to the Government of the United States for the resumption of I negotiations on the Behring's Sea question. I am at the same time to say that Lord Salisbury concurs in the reply which Lord > Knutsford proposes to return to the telegram from the Governor-General ot Canada, a copy of which accompanied your letter of the 14th instant. J am, c. (Signed) P. CURRIB. * No. 261 801 No. 2tf3. Sir J. Pnuncrfole to the MarnuU of Sal'ubury, — ( Rfceived Decemher 18.) (Telfgrapliic.) W'linhiiKjton, Decembrr IS, 1889. 1 HAVE received your telcgruiii of vo»terdny. It would 1)0 <lc8iral>lu that propoHcd coniiminicntion of Colonial Office to Caiiudu ati to her consent to close scoson ngrceincnt l>c deferred. 1 think Mr. Blaine wi'! ai{rec to an arrnni;emcnt for n fixed terui, and ofterwnrds tenninnhle at will of either party ; hut I am Hiire he will not consent to Conunisfion to attscss compensation. I have uugyested t!iat we should a^rec to a lump sum ht'fore tiie negotia- tion, lie is considering the proposal with the President of the LJnite<l States. May I defer sending in a note until your Lordship has received my private letter, and until Mr. Blaine's anH>.er reaches nie ? No. '264. The Marquis of Snlishury In Sir J. Ptiuncofote. — (Substnnce telegraphed.) Sir, h'oreiyn OJfire, December 18, 1 889. I HAVE received your telegram of this day's date, respecting the proposed negotiations on the (piestion of the seal fisheries in Behring's Sea. With reference to the recpiest in the Inst paragraph, I have to inform you that you are authori/cd to defer making a formal proposal to the United States' Government until you receive a reply from Mr. Blaine as to the possibility of agreeing upon a lump sum for the compensation of the owners of vessels seized by the United States' authorities. 1 am, &e. (Signed) SALISBURY. ■■ )l No. '26^). Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received Decemher 23.) My Lord, Washinaton, December 13, 1889. WITH reference to my despatch of the 12tli instant, 1 have the honour to inclose herewith an extract from the Keport of the Secretary of the Treasury for the year 1889 on the subject of the seal islands in Behring's Sea. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 26ri. Extract from the Report af the Secretary of the Treasury for the year 1889 on the subject of the Seal Islands in Behring's Sea. THE lease now held by the Alaska Commercial Company, of the exclusive right to take fur-seals on the Islands of St. Paul and St. George, in Behring's Sea, expires on the Ist day of May next. By the provisioiis of sections 19G3 to 19(57, Revised Statutes, the Secretary of the Treasury is required to lease to proper and responsible parties, for the best advantage of the United States, having due regard for the interests of the Gover::- nient, the native inhabitants, their comfort, maintenance, and education, the right of taking fu^8eals on the islands named, and of sending vessels thereto for the skins so taken, for the term of twenty years, at an annual rental of not less than 50,000 dollars, and a revenue tax of 2 dollars upon each fur seal-skin taken during the continuance of the lease. These provisions impose a large measure of responsibility upon the Secretary, and the official record of legislative proceedings in the last preceding session of Congress indicates that it I is the will of that body that such discretion should remain as originally provided in the I Statute. The present lessees of the seal islands pay an annual rental of 55,000 dollars and a I combined revenue tax and royalty of 2 dol. C'2^ e. per skin, and an experience of twenty hears has shown the capability of the leasing system, when faithfully administered, to Itespund to th: various public interests concerned. 882 The Pribylov Islands are now the only important sources of supply for merchantable seal-skins. The herd which makes those islands its homo is variously estimated to number from 4,000,000 to 0.000,000 seals, but the Treasury agents on duty at the islands liave Dcgun to note an apparent decrease in the number of seals resorting to the islands in tbe breedinjr season. It is mucli to be desired that any such decrease is but temporal y, for should the Pribylov herd disappear, there is none to replace it. It is estimated that upwards of .'500,000 SL-als were killed by unauthorized sealing-vessels during the bi'cedni;' seasons of 1888 and 1889, and as the great majoritv of these were cows, there wi^ iin almost ccjual loss of pup seals. It is obvious that the herd must soon disappear under such a decimation of its productive mcuibors, even if the habitual use of fire-arms (iiii not tend to drive the seals away from their hium:s in advance of their extermination. The Act (if the 'Jnd March, 1889, confers all the needed aulliority upon the I'Accutivc to protect the seals within the waters of the United States, but an appropriation is necessary to provide elFective means for exercising that autliority. Thcie are not cnou^'h Revenue-cutters at the disposal of the Department to properly police the sealing-grounds during the dense fogs that prevail throughout the breeding season, and the great number of petty vessels engaged in marauding would render it impossible for their cantoisto furnish prize crews to take them all to Sitka for condenuiation. The present state imd ])rospcets of the industry seem to call for ])rompt and energetic measures to preserve the valuable Pribylov herd from destruction or dispersion. It is suggested that a suttitieiu force of cruizing-vcssels should be chartered, equipped, and manned, as auxiliary to such Revenue-vessels as could be spared from stations, and a dep6t for prisoners established at Ounalaska, whence they could be transferred to Sitka, and dealt with according to law It is believed that two or three seasons of energetic effort would break up the present destructive and threatening operations. No. 26(j. Sir ./. Paunrefole to the Marquis of f>alhbury. — (Rrceivrd Drcrinber 27.) (Tclcgrnpliio.) Washington, December 26, ISSi), SEIZURES in llohring's Soa. Secretary of State has been at New York during past week. I rtMunvcd discussion as to compensation this morning, lie stated that he had decided to r(>ply to the protest of Her Maj(>sty's Government of October last, in ordcn* to place on rcenid before tho world the precise grounds on which his Government justify the seiznrosnf our vessels, so that any compensation given may not he construed as an admission nf wrong. He begged me to assure your Lordship that his reply would he sent in a lew days, would not in any way embarrass the negotiations, and T will tohsgraph substance to yotir Tiordship, and suspend further action pending its receipt. No. 267. Sir J, Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received January 6, 1S90.) My Lord, Washiiujton, Dccembir :(>, li*?0. 1 HAVE the honour to report that I called on Mr. Hlnine this morning on his return from New York, where he has been during the past week, and renewed the dincussion as to the cpiestion of compensation for the seizures in Rchring's So.-;. In the course of the conversation he inform(?d me that, on furtlier eonsidoration, he had decided to reply to mv protest in order to place on record before the world tho preeise grounds on whicli the United States' Government justify the seizure of tlie Canadian vepscis, so that any compensation which may be granted .'nav not be interpreted as an admission of wrong. lie begged me, at the same time, to assure your Lordshii) tliat the proposed negotiations would not be embarrassed in any way by his reply, and that he would send it in a few days. I will telegraph the substance of his note to your Loi'dsliip as soon as I sliail have received it, and I propose to suspend further action pending its receipt. t have, &c. (Signed) J. PAUNCEFOTE. seaf No. 268. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received January 6, 1890.) My Lord, Washington, December 26, 1889. I HAVE the honour to transmit herewith an extract I'roin the " Washington Post," Oil the subject of an advertisement which has just been issued by the Secretary of the Treasury, invitin<? proposals for the |)rivilege of taking 'ar-seals upon the Islands of St. Paul aiul St. George, Alaska, for the term of twenty years from tlie 1st May next. As your Lordsliip will observe, the number of seals to be taken during the year ending M<iy 1H91 will be limited to 60,000, and for the succeeding years the number will be determined by the Secretary of the Treasury. I have &c. (Signed) ' J. PAUNCKFOTK. l\ Inclosure in No. 268. Extract from the " Washington Post" of December 25, 1889. Tbk Seal Island Contxact. — Secretary Windora yesterday afternoon issued the lollowing advertisement, inviting proposals for the privilege of taking fur-seals upon the islands of St Paul and St. George, Alaska : — '•The Secretary of the Treasury will receive proposals until 12 o'clock, noon, on the 23rd day of January, 1890, for the exclusive right to take fur-seals upon the Islands ofSt. Paul and St. George, Alaska, for the term of twenty years from the !&t day of May, 1890, agreeably to the provisions of the Statrtcs. of the United States. " In addition to the specific requirements ct t!ic said Statutes the successful bidder will be required to provide a suitable building for a public school on each island and to pay the exjicnsc of maintaaiing schools therein during a period of not less than eight months in each year, as may be required by the Secretary of the Treasury. "Also to pay to the inhal)itants of said islands, for labour performed by them, such just and proper compensation as may be prescribed by the Secretary of the Treasury. "Tlie number of seals to be taken for their skins upon said islands during the year ending May 1891 will be limited to 60,000, and for the succeeding years the number will be determined by the Secretary of the Treasury in accordance with the provisious of law. " The right is reserved to reject any and all j)roposals not deemed to be in accordance wiili the best interests of the United States, and of the inhubitants of said islands. "As a guarantee of good faith, each proposal must be accompanied by a properly certified cheque drawn on a United States' national bank." No. 269. Colonial Office to Foreign Office.— -{Received January 10.) Sir, Downing Street, January 10, 1890. WITH reference to the letter from this Department of the 12th ultimo, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, copies 01 three despatches ironi tiie Governor-General of Canada, forwarding the claims for losses incurred by the seizure in Behring's Sea of the " Triumpli," the "Lily," and the "Black Diamond." Ihe claim in the case of the " Minnie " has not yet been received. I am, &c. (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HEllBERT. Inclosure 1 in No. 269. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. ^ly Lord, Govrrnment House, Ottawa, December 16, 1889. WITH rtforenee to my despatch of the 26th August last,* in. which I inclosed a copy i-f an approved Minute of the Privy Council detailing the eircumsta\ices attending the * See Inclosurj 1 in No. 222. ; I " ^ 384 warning-off from tlie Behiing's Sea o'tlie British sealing schooner " Triumph," I have the honour to forward herewith, tor transmission to tiie United States' Government, a copy of an approved Report of a Committee of tlic Privy Council, submitting formal statements and claim to compensation, on behalf of the owners, for loss incurred by reason of the said vessel being interfered with in the legitimate pursuit of her calling, I have, &c. (Signed) STANLliY OF PRESTON. Inclosure 2 in No. 269. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency ik Governor-General in Council on November 16, 1889. ON a Report, dated the 11th November, 1889, from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, submitting, in connection with the warning-off from the Behring's Sea of the British sealing-schooner " Triumph," the circumstances attending which were dotailcd in the Minute of Council dated the 22nd August last, made upon a Report of thelStii August last of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, formal statements and claim to compensation on behalf of the owners, for loss incurred by reason of the said vessel being interfeic.i with in the legitimate pursuit of her calling. The Minister states that this claim amounts to 19,G74 dollars, and is advanced by Mr. E. Crow Baker, of Victoria, British Columbia, jnanaging owner, on behalf of himself, Daniel McLean, Kosine Gibson, and John C. Blackett, as joint owners of the vessel in question. The Committee advise, on the recommendation of the Minister of M.,vino and Fisheries, that your Excellency be moved to forward a copy of this Minute, together with the papers herewith annexed, to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies for transmission to the Government of the United States. All which is respectfully submitted for vour Excellenev's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council, Inclosure 3 in No. 269. Declaration of Edgar Crow Baker. City of Victoria, Province of British Columbia, Dominion of Canada. I, EDG A R CHOW BAKER, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia, Dominion of Canada, retired Navigating Lieutenant, Royal Navy, but at present (iunonj; various other i>usinesses) following the occupation or calling ot'a Real Estate and Financial Broker in the city aforesaid, and the duly authorized managing owner of the British sealing-schooner " Triumph," do solennily and sincerely declare as follows: — 1. That said schooner was built in April 1887 in Shelbiirne, Nova Scotia, purchased by myself and others, as per original register, and brought to the port of Victoria by one Daniel McLean, mastei and part owner, for the express purpose of engaging in the business of seal-hunting in the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea, and elsewhere. 2. That said vessel was duly registered at the port of Victoria, British Columbia, by the usual method of transfer of registry, on the 2nd December, 1887, with the port nnnibe; 11, her vcgislered toimage being 87"'>1, and her oflicial number, 90,681. 3. That said vessel arrived at the port of Victoria on or about the 2.')th April, 1888, and alter undergoing usual refit and outfit for her sealing voyage, cleared from the port of Victoria on or about the 5th May, 1888, for Behring's Sea, and prosecuted that branch of the (ieep-sca fisheries known as seal-hunting, in said arm of the North Pacific Ocean, witli a crew composed piincipally of Indian hunters, and returned to Victoria on or about the 12th September of said year with a catch of 2,491 sealskins, and the master reported no interference or umlcstation on the part of the United States' Revenue cruizers. 4. That said catch was sold in the itiarket at Victoria for the price or sum of j 14,2l9(Iol. 7;') c, and after reimbursing all expense of outfit for the hunting period, payment of hunters and crew, yielded a very handsome profit to the owners of said vessel for their season's venture. 5. That the price paid for skins during the season immediately above referred to » 385 «as 6 dollars only in Victoria, thouf^h 75 dol. 2') c. and flf) dol. 50 <•. was obtained at the usual full sales in London, Great Britain. fi. That the registered owners of said vessel at that time were : Ed^ar Crow Baker, 21 shares ; Walter E. Blackett, 21 shares; Daniel McLcnn, 22 shares, participr.ting equally in the profits, and the vessel commanded by s:ime master. 7. That in January of tiu' present year (1880), in order to make the vessel as staunch and seaworthy as it was possible to make a vessel, not then two years old, she was docked in tjraving-dock at Esquimalt, and coppered to 9 f'e t forward and 11 feet a(i, at an expense to the owners of 1,2.'? 4 dol. .50 c., thereby enhancing the value of said vessel from S,'30 dollars to very nearly 9,500 dollars. 8. That the primary object in spaiing no expense to efficiently equip said vessel was that she might "keep the sea" in any weatliei, and prolong her seal-hunting voyage until the latest moment of the season, and return to her homc-jxirt in the following season with a catch in excess of that already (juoted. !l. That the declarant sent said vessel down to Fan Francisco on the 24th Murch of the present year, in order to procure the best white luniters, scaling boats and sealing outfit obtainable, and disbursed for satne and provisions 2,086 dol. 24 c. 10. That said vessel left San Francisco on or about the 12t'i April of the present vear with a cre\/ consisting of master, mate, carpenter, t;uinier, cook and steward, eight hunters, seventeen able and ordinary seamen, and two appniutices, in all thirty-two in numiicr, as per eertitieate of shipping mast -r of said port. 11. That said vessel entered and cleared (Voir Jie |iort of Victoria on the 25th day of April last, and sent by the declarant on a sealing and hunting voyage in the North Pacific Ocean and Behriiig's Sea at u lurtiier cost fo the owners of 2,975 dol. 19 c. for advances to hunters and crew, provisions, sails, eciuipments and apparel, marine insurance, and necessaries. 12. That the total amount of cash at risk in said venture, (Voni commencement of voyage to finish on tiic JSth July, was 15,425 dol. 43 e., irrespective of the lay out or wages of master. 13. That the said schooner entered Behring's Sea on or about the 4tb July, and having previously transhipped her outside, or coast catcii, was hove to on the llth July, and boarded by Lieutenant Tutfle, of the United States' Revenue cutter" Richard Rush" (as pcrsworn-to testimony of the master, made on arriving in Victoria, dated the 8th August) who searched the vessel, examined and returned ship's papers, and ordered the schooner out of Behring's Sea, threatening confiscation of vessel and catcli if caught in the act of killing seals, or with skins on board alter having been earned. 14. That by reason of tlio threats and menaces of the said United States' cutter, the master was prevented from further prosi-euting his legitimate business in said sea, and not wishing to incur the responsibility of threatened capture of his valuable vessel, returned to Vicloiiaon the 28th July, with only sevenfy-two skins on board, and which were on board at the time of search, though undiscovered by the boarding oiliccr, at least, so I am infoi'nied aiul verily believe. 15. That, from the number of skins taken by the ''Triumph" last year, with vessel partially ctjuipped only and with less experienced hunters, I conscientiously believe that the said schooner, in a full season unmolesteil and free from fear of molestation, would have taken in the neighbourhood of 2,500 skins. ](). That the market value of sealskins at the port of Victoria, on or about the 1st October instant, when in the usual course of events heretofore, the" Triumph" would have arrived after a com|)lete season's voyage, as hereinbefore mentioned, was 8 dollars per skin. 17. That the declarant, on behalf el himself and co-owners, claims damages against I the Government of tl:e United States of America for the unlawful and unwarrantable interference, molestation, threat and menace of its said Revenue cutter, whereby a heavy s is incurred by the owners and hunters of said schooner "Triumph," amounting to I the value of the difference between the skins actually taken, and estimated catch, viz., 2,428 skins (2,500, less 72) at 8 dollar, per skin, or the sum of 19,424 dollars, and 250 dollars for legal and other expenses in connection with the preparation and submission of this I claim. 18. That hereto annexed, marked (A), is a statement in detail of such claim, and of ! persons entitled to share therein. 19. That upon the sailing of the said schooner in April and May last at San Francisco land Victoria, respectively, advances were made to the hunters based upon a full season's Icateli, and said hunters will, upon f)ayment of said claim, be entitled fo, and will receive I their share thereof. I, [128] 3 D ■' "(i M II I HH6 And I, Rdgiir Crow Dnkor, niuKc this holciini (Ui-liimlioii, noDscioiitiously bollcvini; the 8iinu< t) l)c Hue, juHt ami ('(luitiihli', and l)v virhm ot Aot lOBpecting Kxtrn-Judiciaj Oiith«. (SigiuHl) KDCJAR CROW HAKKK, Mitmiijinij Owiifr. Dooltired l)y the suiil Mgnv (^row Uaki-r, at tin; City ol Vicloiiu, Hritisli (/'oliniibiii, the (lay of Novniilicr, a.d. IHH!). Hflou' nil:. (Si^in'd) 1>- !<• Hauius, A S'otinii I'lililir liii Unijnl Aulliorihj in mid for Ihv I'mrliifc 1)1 lirilisli ('(tlinnliiii, rcsnluui iind prttrli^iiiii (il 1'irt(irli( ii/iirrsdid. Incl<tsun> I in No. •Jd'.l. Dktaii.ki) StatfiiuMit ol Clann l)y Owiiris ot' Uritish scliooiifr "'rriuinpli" «HMni>t tiie (iovtintncnl of tlic United Stales of Anieiiea. '.',4'.'8 M'liKKins, IimImii.t ol' iin i'>liinnl''ii nli'li «( '.'..lOll .i:ilskiii> liv llir MtlMi'licr "'!'. iinipli ' i. ;• 'Ijr Lul ■■(mmhi hI' ISNli in jli'lniii^'s Simi. :iI N (lull lis per »kiii . . . . . . Ia%i\\ liml iitlirr i .vpciiM!. iiici li .il;(l ti> pii'panilloii iilid >iiiiMiii''iiiii nl' rliiiiiis ., Totiil OwNKits on October ', l^^,'. l''<l){iil' t'rnw li.'il.rr. n iUMLiihj; i>\> 11 r nmiii'l \li'l, run. iiiii-li'i' Minim r . , l\<isln(> tiili* I,. (Ill til-, Oinann ,1(lllll ('. lllnrKcll. Xilllllll, lllili-ll t'ollllllI'Ml Total Dolliirx. I'.M-'I •J")(l Kt.iiTi Ml lie-.. .11 ■u II III N.B. — K. Crow Haivir, ii'|irest'ntinn- D. Mil.ean's shares hy lull power ot' attoiiKv, ftlld fts ii1(irt|:.lgre in |itissessioii, .1. i\ lUaekett, hy power ot" ftt.torney, and Hc.^ili.i (Jihsnii'; by consent of attoniev. {Sinned) KDWAKl) CROW liAKKIi. MiiiitKjiiiij Oinifr. The schedule marked (A) relerred to in stateiiient, of which tiiis (orin part. (Siirned') U. R. Hauris, Nntiirii I'lihliv for thf Proriiicr of Biiti.ili l\>lnmtiia. To all to wiioin these presents shall eunie be it known and made manifest that I, Alexander Roiaiul .Milne, a Surveyor in Her Mnjesiy's Customs for the Port of Victoria, Britii^h Culitmhia, in the Doiniiiion of Canada, duly ap|iointed as such, resiJiiii; ami otticiating in said capacity in the city of \"ietoi'ia, in the Province; aforesaid, do lii;rehy certify that tin- p.iper written hereto imnexed, dated the Mh Auynst, 1S89, siyrnd and •worn to betbre (icorge Morrison, J. I'., on said ilay by one Daniel Mclvjan, master ol the British schooner "Triumph," registered at the ()ort aforesaid and engaged in the sealing business, is as it purports to be a full, tine and correct copy of the original thereof in BTery res^icct. I do further certify that the original document was forwarded by the Collector of Customs of this port to the Department of Marine and Fisheries at Ollawii on or uliout the date therein named, and that I have full confidence in the truth of the statetnents made by said master embodied in said atiidavit. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office ut the city of Victoria, British Columbia, this 4th day ol November, 1881). (Signed) A. R. MILNE, Surveyor, i,c. ii!imii>t iiie ol' nt.toi'iin sill, (iil)soil' KK K, iiiij Oinier. ,W7 fnHnHnro rt in No. 209. MtrpiwlUiit of Ihiniel Mrl,nni. In tlif iiiiitlcr o( si'iucli. \c., Ill' Ihc sculin^ hcIiooikt " Triiiin|)|i " liy llui Uiiitod Stutos' Rovrmie ciittrr " Hicliiud Kusli " in Rclirin^'K Sra. I, DANIKL Mcl.KAN, of the city of V ictoiia, in flio I'roviiutf of BritUli Coiiimblii, Doiniiiioii 111' ('niia''ii, liciiiu; duly Hwoni, dcposii nn follows: Thnl I iiiii niiish-r find |mit owikt of Mie Hrilisli ncliooiior •"ri'iijni|tli," rjiKistori'd at lliR IViit ot Victoiiii, iiiitisli ('olinnl)iii, tliiii in coiifbi'inity 4 > H<n Iiiwh of tlio Doinininn of ('niiiidii I ri|;idaily cliiinMl tlu; said Hcliooncr " 'rriuni|)li " for a vovaf^o to tlio North I'lirilic Occjin and HcliiiiiuH Hca. and that in iiui'Hiianro of my IdKiliinatA iuinliumK did cnlir till' siiid 111 lirini;'s Sni on tlin llli day o( July, 1880, and did in a peaceful mnnner iiioiTi'il "11 my voyiiijc and liciiii; in latitudes fiO" fi' north, loiiy;itudn 171° 'i.<' w(mt,, on tlio Hill day ol .Inly, \Hi-H). at the lionr of H'.'M) a.m., was hailed hy llio ('omniandcr of the United Stali'fc' Ucvi'iiuiM'utti'r " Knsli," the said UovtinKMniltcr liciim a vcshcI holongin); to tiic (lovcrnniciil of the United States and rcfiiilarly eoiiiinlshloned li\' tho saino, n hont linviiiu: licen lowered liy (he ollieer and eruw I was lioiirdeil hy the same, the oHiccr in cliiirpr ol the hoat. heing one Lii'uttMiant Tnltle, who demanded the oliieial papers of my vessel, and alter icadini; I he saiiii) priKU'edcd to ne»rcli my vi'ssel lor seals, and findin^^ no ovideiiee of the same informed me that orders have lux'li jSHUCtI by I lie Hccri'tury uf tll» Treasury of tiie United States under the I'roelaination of the I'rfsiderit, instruetir" the ('oiiiiiiiindiiif^ Officer of tiie said Hf'veiiwe eiitti-r " Hush " to seize; all vessels fouilU Hculing in Bcliriii)j;'s Sen ; he also told iiu; I hat should he auaiii hoard nie and find HeaMins oii boaitl thai he would seize and eontisente tlu; vessel and ealeh ; he furthermore informed me tliiit he had already seized tlu; Hritisli schooner " Uliiek Diamond," of Vietoria, IJrItlsh t'oluinliia, and I hat sIk; had heeii sent to Hill<n, and tliat, therefore, by reason of hjti tlii'oiils and iiii'iiaees 1 was eatiKed to forego my le'^iliniafe and peaceful voyage on the hij^h seas, iiiid retnin to the port o( my deiiarture, eausinu: serious pecuniary losn to invHcIf, crew, and owiii'rs, for which a claim will he tbriiiidaled and forwarded in <liie courHU. Ami I make this solemn allidavit eoiiscientiouslv believing the .siiiiie to be true, and liv virtue of tlie Oaths Ordinance, IHfiJ). (Signed) DAMKI, Mcl^lCAN, i\fu.'<ler, Schooner " Tiiuviph." Swoin before me this Hth Aii!;iist, 1880, at Victoria, Hritisli Columbia. (Signed) (Jko. Mohuihon, J. P., a Junlim qf Ike P earn for the Province of lirilinh Cohimhin. 1 (111 liireby ceiiity to the eorrectness of this stutcnieiit as verbtilly expressed to mq also by said Daniel McLean. (Signed) KnoAit Cuow HAiuca, Noliiri/ Public. IncloHure (! in No. 26!). fjOrd Sfniilcji of Prcstnv to Lord Kmihford. My Lord, (lornnmcnl House, Otlnwa, December 17, 1889. Wrril reli'ienec to my desputch of the iititli August hiKt, relating to tho 8oi'.:ura ill HthiingV, Sea of the British schooner '• Hlaeli Diamond," I liave the honour to forward heiewilh ii copy of an approved Minute of the Frivy Council, Hubniitting the 1 claim to eoinpensaiion of the owner of the vessel for loss sustained by reason of her seiaure bytlie United States' authorities. 1 have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Incloaure 7 in No. 269. \Rfport of a Committee of the Honourable the Privij Council, approved by his Excellency tht Governor-General in Council on December 2, 1889. ON a Report dated the 28th November, 1889, from the Minister of Marine and [Fisheries submitting, in connection with the seizure in the Behring's Sea of the British [128] 3 D 2 ■I . 01 !.i 388 ; schooner "Black Diamond," the circumstunces attending wliicii were detailed in the Minute of Council approved by your E.\ct>ilcncy on tlie 22nd August, 1889, formal statements and claim by tlie owner to compensation for Ici.s incurred by reason of the seizure of said vessel, and tiio fi)reible removal to tlie United States' Revenue cutter " Richard Rush " of seventy-six sealskins, as well as for the value of tlie estimated catch for the balance of the season had tlie vessel not been interfered with in the lei^itiniate pursuit of her calling, which claim, with incidental expenses, ag<>regates the sum of 17,185 dollars. The Minister recommends that this claim be forwarded through the proper channel to Her Majesty's Government for transmission to the Government of the United States. The Committee advise that your Excellency be moved to forvard copies hereof to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, All which is respectfully submitted. (Signed) JOHN .J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council, Inclosure 8 in No. 269. Declaration of Morris Moss. Canada, Province of British Columbia, City of Victoria. I, MORRIS MOSS, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia, Dominion of Canada, fur dealer and sliip-owner, do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows : — 1. I am a British hubject by birth, and the duly registered owner of the schooner "Black Diamond," of the poit of Victoria, aforesaid. 2. On the 12th day of February, lb89, the said schooner was elcared at t!ic Cii>tii:n- house at said city of V'ictoria for a fishing and hunting voyage to the North Pacific ()('e;i!i and Beliring's Sea. 3. On the old day of August, 1889, the said '' Black Diamond " returned (o Victoria aforesaid, and hereto annexed, marked (X), is the statutory declaration of Alexander Gault, the male of the said schooner on said voyage, of the cause and manner of the "Black Diamond's " return to V'ietoriii from such voyage, which said stalemcnt I veiily believe is true. 4. The value of the sealskins taken from the " Black Diamond " as set out in said Alexander Gault's statement was, on or about the 1st day of October (when in due course the vessel would have dciivcred her cargo of skins at Victoria aforesaid), 8 dollars jier skin. The salt so taken as aforesaid was vxortli ;"> dollars. The Indian spears 4 dollars each, and the said rifle was worth 2.') dollars, 5. From the actual eatcli of seals made in said sea during said season by other sailina; vessels, 1 verly believe tiiat had ill-: said " Black Diamond " not been seized and her hunting voyage broken up as set out in said statement of Alexander Gault, the hunters on said schooner would have captured at least 2,100 sealskins in said Beliring's Sea durin!; the season of 1 b89. 6. 1, for m\self and the crew and hunters of the said "Black Diamond," claimed damages against the Governniciit of the United States' of America for the seizure of the said " Black Diamond," and for tlie taking and detention of said seventy-six sealskins, and for 2,024 sealskins the balance of the estimated catch of 2,10!) in Beliring's Sea for the full season of Ifc8i), also for the salt, rifle, Indian spears, and ship's papers taken as al'oie- said, and for legal and other expenses incidental to, and arising out of^ such seizure, and llie preparation and submission of this claim therefor and interest thereof at 7 per cent, per annum until |}aid. 7. Hereto annexed marked (A) is ;i Statement in detail of sueli claim tor dania^es. And J. Morris Moss, make this solemn declaration "onscieiilii)iisly believing the fame T be true, and iiv virtue of the Act respeetinu; Voluntarv and Extra-.Judicial Oaths, MORRIS MOSS. 19tli dav of November. (Signed) Declared by the said Morris Moss, at the citv oi Victoria, llu ..D. 1869. Before me, (Signed) Arthuu L. Biclyea, i Notarji Public hij Royal Anfliorily in and for the Prnvinci' of liritisli Coluniliia. 389 ,^ ..••■.. Inclosure 9 in No. 269. ' Statemknt of Claim by Owner of scliooner *' Black Diamond" against the Government of the United States of Anieri "i for Seizuro in Beliring's Sea on July 1 1, IS.-jQ. DoUnra. 76 sealskins (seized). 2,021 senlskiiis. biilnncp of pstimntcrt cnteh by "Black Dinmond" for full seiison of 18Hi) in HcliriiiK's Son. ,100 spnKlvins, at 8 dolliii's ,. ,. .. ., .. 1 rillc, nt . . . . . . , . . , 20 sppnrs, nt 4 dollnrN each. . 2 Hacks salt, at 2 dul, 50 c. eac'li Cost of obtuininj? now (.hip's papurs . . . . , , Legal and oilier expenses arising out of, anil incidental to, sueh seizure Total .. .. .. ., .. And interest thereon at 7 per eeut. per nnnuiu until paid. (Signed) 10,800 2.1 80 5 25 250 .. 17,185 MORRIS MOSS. This is the Statement referred to as marked (A) in tlic declaration of Morris Moss, takrn hetore me the 19th November, 1889. (Signed) A. L. Belyea, Notary Public. (X.) In the mutter of the seizure of the sealing schooner " Black Dian\ond," by the United States' Revenue cutter "Richard Rush," on the 11th day of July, a.ii. 1880. I, Alexander Gault, of the city of Vietovia, mate, do solemnly and sincerely declare that :— 1. I was at the time of the occurrences hereinafter mentioned, employed as mate of the sealing schooner '•' Blick Diamond," oi' the port of Victoria, British Columbia. 2. On the 11th day of ,)uly last, whilst on board the said schooner she then being on II sealing expedition, ;ui(i in latitude ."ill" L'2' nortii, and longitude ) 70'^ 2.'/ west, and at a distance of uh )ut '.i'> miles from shore, we were overhauled by the " Richard Rush," a United States' Revenue cutter, which latter vessel having bailed us, and shouted a command we were unable to understand, steamed across our steamer's bows compelling us to come to. A boat was then lowered from the cutter, and lieutenant Tuttle, with five other men came aboard the schooner. The captain of our schooner asked Lieutenant Tattle whnt be wanted, and he replied be wished to see our papers. The captain then took him down into his cabin, and in my presence showed him the ship's papers. Lieutenant Tuttle then demanded that they should be banded to him, but our captain rci'ustd to give tiicm up, and locked them in bis locker. Lieutenant Tuttle then ordered his men to bring up the sealskins. At this time there were seventy-six salted and iifty- tivc unsulted sealskins on board. The Lieutenant then ordered the salted skins to be taken on board the " Richard Rush." This was done by the cutter's boat, two bags of salt and a riHe being also taken from the schooner to the cutter. Lieutenant Tuttle told our captain that if be did not give up the papers he should take them by force, and our captain still refusing, the Lieutenant bailed the cutter, and a boat brought off the Master-at-arms who came aboard our schooner. Lieutenant Tuttle asked our captain for his keys, but not being able to obtain them, ordered the Master-at- arms to force the locker. The master-at-arms then unscrewed the binges of the locker, and taking out the papers, handed the same to Lieutenant Tuttle. Lieutenant Tuttle then went back to the "Richard Rush," but returned again, bringing with bim one whose name 1 have since heard to be John Hawkinsen. The Lieutenant then ordered certain Indian sealing spears belonging to the schooner to the number of twenty to be placed in bis boat, which wius accordingly done by the cuttii's men. Our captain asked bim for a receipt for the skins, ship's papers, and other goods he had taken ; this be refused to give. He then ordered our captain to take the schooner to Sitka, but our captain told bim that if he wanted the schooner to go there he would have to put a crew on board to take her there. Lieutenant Tuttle then gave Hawkinsen some orders and some papers addressed to the United States' authorities at Sitka, and, leaving Hawkinsen on board the schooner, and taking the spears with liim, returned to the cutter, which shortly afterwards steamed away, taking the ship's papers, the skins, and the other goods with her. S90 "^e set sail for Oonalaska where tho cai)tain hoped to fall in with a British mnn-of. war, and arrived at that place on the ' "jtli day of July. There being no man-of-war then and the Indians having become very iiuitinous, and threatening to throw us overbonrd it they thought wo were going to Sitka, we set sail for the port of Victoria, reaching the latter place on the 3rd day of August, 1889, at about the hour of 7 p.m. The man Hawkinscn, during tlic voyage, did not attempt to give any directions or suggestions us to the course to he taken by tijc schooner, antj on arrival at Victoria was placed on shore by one of tlie schooner's boats. And I make this declaration conscientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the Oatiis Ordinance, ls89. (Signed) ALEXANDER GAULT. Declared before me at the city of Victoria, this 8th day of August, 1889. (Signed) Ernest V. Bodwell, A Notarij Piihlic for the Province of British Coliimliia. This is the statutory declaration of Alexander Gault referred to as marked (X) declaration of .Morris Moss made before me the IStii day of November, 1889. the cje (Signed) A. 1.. Bki.vra, Notnry PiihUr. Inclosnre 10 in No. 269. Lord Stanle;/ of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Ijord, Government House, Ottawa, December 17, 1889. Wri'H reference to the Deputy Governor's despatch of the ii4th September last relating to the seizure in Beliring's Sea of the British schooner " Lily," I have the honour 10 transmit to your Lordship a copy of an approved Uepoit of a Committee of the Privy Council, subraitting formal statements and claim to compensation advanced by the owneii ot that vessel against the United States' Government for loss incurred by reason of her seizure. 1 have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. rnclosure 1 1 in No. 269. Report of u Oornmittee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excelltncy the Governor-Qeneral in Council on December 2, 1889. ON a Report dated the 28th November, 1889, from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, submitting, in connection with the seizure in the Behring's Sea of the British schooner •' Lily," the circumstances attending which were detailed in the Minute of Council approved by your Excellency on tiie I8th September, 1889," formal statement! and claims by the ownms to compensation lor loss incurred by reason of the seizure of said vessel, and the forciblu removal to tiie United States' Revenue cutter "Richard Rush" of 33'i sealskins, as well as for the value of tiie estimated catch for the balance of the season had the vcs-lI not been interfered with in the legitimate pursuit of her calling, which claim, with incidental expenses, aggregates the sum of 17,167 dollars. The Minister recommends that this claim be forwarded through the proper channel to Her Majesty's Government for tiiuismission to the Government of the United States. The (.'omniittee advise tliat your Excellency be moved to forward copies hereof to the Right Honourable the Secretary ol State for the Colonies. All which is respectfuljv subniitted. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, ' Privy Council, 301 Inclosure 12 in No. 269. Declaration of Morris Mos*. Canada, Province of Britisli Columbia, City of Victoria. [, MORRIS MOSS, of the city of Victoria, in tiie Province of British Colultlbid, Dnriiinion of Canada, ftir dealer and ship-owner, do solemnly atid Sincciely declare as I'ollows : — 1. I am a British subject by hirtli, and the duly registered owner of the suliooner "Lily" of the port of Victoria aforesaid. •2. On the 20th day of May. a.d. lSSi>, the said schooner " Lily '' cleaied at the Custonis-house, Victoria aforesaid, for a fishinu; and hunting voyage in the North Pacifid Ocean and Behring's Sua. 3. On the Ist day of September, a.d. 1881), the said schooner " Lily " returned to the snid port of Victoria, and hereto annt'xcci, marked (X), is the statutory declaration of John Reilly, the master of the said schuoiier " JJly " on said voyage, setting lortli the cause and manner of the return to N'ictoria of s lid schooner iVom such voyage, which said statement I verily believe to be true. 4. The value of the sealskins taken irom the saiti " Lily," as set out in said John Rciilv's statement, was, on or about the 1st day of October (wlien in due course the said vessel would have delivered her ravao of skins at Victoria iifbresaid), 8 dollars per skin. The salt so taken as aforesaid was worth ;"> dollars, nud tiit; iniiian spears I dollars each. ."j. Front the actual catcli of seals nuide in said sea during said season by other vessels, I verily believe that had the said " Lily " not been seized, and her hunting voyiige broken up, as set out in said statement of John Keilly, the said hunters on said sihooner "Lilv" Would have captured at least 2,100 sealskins in Behring's Sea during the season of 188!). Ci. I for myself and the crew ami hunters of the said "Lily" claim danuiges against the Government of the United States of Americja for the seizure of the said '' Lily," and fertile taking and detention of said 'S'-VA sealskins, and for 1,767 sealskins, the balance of the estimated catch of 2,10() in Behring's Sea for the full season of 1889; also for the salt and Indian spears and ship's papers taken as atbresaid, and for legal and other expenses iucidcnial to, and arising out of, such seizure, and the |)reparation and submission of this claim tiierefor and interest thereon, at the rate of 7 per cent, per annum until paid. 7. Hereto anncNcd, marked (A), is a statement in detail of such clain) lor damages. And I, Morris Moss, make this solemn declaration conscientiously believing the same to be true, and bv virtue of the Act respecting Voluntary and Extra-Judicial Oaths. (Signed) MORKltt MOSS. Declared by the said Morris Moss at the Oitv of Victoria, tite M)th dav of Novumbet, A.U. 1889. Before rae, (Signed) A. L. Belyea, Notary Public bij Royrtl Aiitlwriti/ in unci for the Province of British fJolumbia. I >l Inclosure 13 in No. 209. Statement of Claim. liY owner of schooner " Lily " against the Government of the United Slate,-, ol AiiK'iica tor seizure in Behring's Sea on the Oth Allgdst, a.d. 1889. o;i3 soiilsldns (^seined). 1,767 5Ciilsl!in>', hiilnnco ol' I'Stiiuated taUli by " lily ' tor ftill Seusmi of 1889 ill Behring's Sen. -',100 sealskins, at 8 doUiiis .. ... .. .. .. .. 16,800 24 Indian spears, nt 4 dollars .. .. .. .. .. 96 'i sacks salt, at li dol. oO e. . . . . . . . . . . 5 Host of obtnining now ship's papers. , . . . . . . . . 25 Legal .tiid other expenses arisiii)r out of, and incidental to. svteh seizure . . 250 AAcl intefcA ther60ti at 7 per cent, per aimuni until paid. (Signed) .. 17,176 MORRIS MOSS. ,' !• '.m This is tiic Statement of Claim i (i iieci to as muvked (A) in i\\v (Icciamtion ol Morris Moss, made lictbiv mc the 19th November, 188!). (Signed) A. L. Uklyka, Notani Public. In the matter of the seizure of tiie senliiis: «ehooner " IJly " by the United States' lU veiinc eutter " Hicliard Rusii," on tlic (Uh (hiy of Auuiist, '.\.i>. 188!). I, John Heiily, of the eity of V'ieloria, Ikitisii Columbia, master mariner, do soienuily and sincerely declare that : — I I am a master mariner, and was at the time of the occurrences liereinaltir mentioned, and still am master of the schooner " Lily " of the Port of Victoria, Uritisli Columbia. 'i. On the Otii day of August, A.n. 188!), wliilst I was on board and in eonnuiiiKJ of the said schooner " Lijy." and she beini; then on a seahnjx expedition, and beiiif,' jn latitude no" 2!)' nortii, and lt)ni,'itude lG(i'' KV west, and at a ilistiinct of about (lli milo from ihc nearest land, the United States' Revenue eutter " llieiiard Rush " overhauled the said seiiooner. M. I was first boardeil by the Kirst Lieutenant, wiio was armed, and who asked me hotv mnny skins 1 hiid on board. I replied that he should iind out himself, and s;ii(| that if he wanteci to see the schooner's papers I would show them to him and would render him assistance simuld he want to search the schooner for contraband i,'oo(ls, but I would imt acknowledj^e his right to seize uie for sealing on the hi<!;li seas. 4. The Kirst Lieutenant then returned to the eutter, and in a short time returned acconiivi'iied by anolher beat of the cutter which was in eharfrc of the Second Lieutenant, A. 'riicy both liinic on hoard, and the First Lieutenant demanded of na; the sui render of the scliooner, and askiuir, at tlie same time, lor the schooner's papers. This I at (list declined to do, and the Fust Lieutenant said unless I gave the schooner's |)apers to him at once he would take them by force. I tlien gave him the schooner's papers, consistini; of registry, coastinj); licence, and clearance. (>. The First Lieutenant then ordered both boats' crew to search the schooner, and they took from my schooner 38'^ sealskins, all in good order. 7. He tlien asked me if I would give hini two sacks of s;ilt. ( told him it would Iw useless for me to refuse, as he could take tliein by force, so 1 told him to go ahead mid help himself. He then gave me two letters, the contents of which were unknown to mc at the time, one of them being sealed, the contents of which is still unknown to me, the other ecrtifyiiit; that he had seized the schooner " Lily " for violation of the United Slates' laws, and taken possession of schooner's papers. 8. He then told uic to proceed to Sitka, Alaska. 1 asked liim it he wanted me to go to Victoria or Sitka, Alaska, to which he replied that he had notiiing to .say but simply told me Iiis orders. 9. My crew, at thii; time, consisted of a mate, Ucorge McDonald, and three white men, and twenly-tive Indian hunters. 'I'he Indian hunters said that lliey would nut proceed to Sitka, and to avoid I'urtlier trouble I directed the schooner course to \"icl(nia, and arrived here the 1st day of September at 7 o'clock v.m. And I make this solenui declaration conscientiously l)<,lieving the .■•anic to be true and bv virtue of the Oaths Ordinance, In^;). (Signed) .JOHN REILLY. Declared at the city of Victoria, British Columbia, this 1 Itli (iay of September, 1889. Before me, (Signed) Tnos. SiioxBOLr. Jiislicf of the Pi-aci: This is the statutory declaration of .lohn Keilly, leterred to as marked (X) in the declaration of Morris Moss, made before me the 19tli November, 1889. (Signed) A. L. Hki.yea, Notary Public. No. 270. Colonial Office to Foreiyn Office, — {Received January 20.) Sir, Downiwj Street, January 18, 1890. I i 1 AM directed by Lord K'nut.sford to transmit to you, to he laid before the -Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch and its inclosures from the Covemor-Crencral of 393 Tnnndn, torwarciinjj ft claim for compensation from the owners of tlic schooner " Ariel" for lo>i« incurred hy reason of its hcing interfered with by tlic United Statcfl' Revenue cutter •' Kiciiard Rusli " while cnjjaj^ed in a sealing voyage in Behring's Sea. I am, Ike. (Signed) I{. 11. MEADE. Inclosurc 1 in No. 270. Lor(f Stanley of Prenton to Lord Knulsfonl. Mv Lord, (loffniiitr)it House, Ottawa, December 31, 18f9. [ HAVl'i the honour to transmit to your fiordship a copy of an approved Minute of till' Privy Council submitting a declaration and formal statement of claim to compensation (in behalf of the owners of the British schooner "Ariel" for loss incurred by reason of the said vessel being interfered with by the United States' Revenue cutter " Kichard Rush" while engaged in a sealing voyage in Behring's Sea. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF I'HESTON, Inclosurc 2 in No. 270. choDiicr, and Urpnrt nf II Coiiiinittei' of tin' Ilonourublc the Privi/ Council, ii/iproced by his H.vcctleiicy the Governor'GeHeral in Council, on Dfcember 'J8, 1889. ON a Report, dated the 27 th December, 1889, from the Minister of Marine and Fisliorii's submitting the ai»))otided declaration and formal statement of claim to coin|K'iisiitii>n on behalf of the owners of tiie British schooner " Ariel," which vessel was. on till' the :^Otli day of July, 1889, wliile engaged in a sealing voyage in the Behring's Sea so culled) boarded by three officers from the United States' Revenue cutler "Richard Rusii.' 'i'lie odieer searched and examined the schooner " Ariel," and questioned the iimster as to his voyage, crew, and catch ; and also warned him against taking seals in the Behring's Sea under threat of seizure of the vessel and the arrest of himself .ind mate. The Minister observes that the claim amounts to 9,498 dollars for loss incurred by reason of the said vessel Ijcing interfered with in the legitimate pursuit of her calling, and is advanced by Mr. Sainuel W. Bucknam, of Victoria, British Columbia, managing owner and master of the said schooner " Ariel," on behalf of himself and Messrs. John .\I. Taylor and B jla R. Lawrence, of the city of St. John, New Brunswick, as joint owners of the vessel in question. Tiie Minister recommends that this claim be forwarded through the jiroper channel to Her Majesty's Government for transmission to the Covernnient of the United States. The Committee advise that your Excellency be moved to forward a copy of this Minute to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, together with the papers mentioned herein. All which is respectfully submitted for your E.xceilencv's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McUEE, Clerk, Privy Council, Inclosurc 3 in No. 270. Declaration of Samuel IV. Bucknam. Canada, Province of British Columbia, City of Victoria. I, SAMUEL W, BUCKNAM, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia, and Dominion of Canada, ma.ster mariner, do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows :— 1. The hereinafter-mentioned schooner '• jV.riel " is a British vessel registered at I the port of St. John, in the province of New Brunswick, one of the provinces of the I Dominion of Canada. 2. The registered owners of tlie said schooner " Ariel " are John M. Taylor and [128] 3 E If 'i ( mf 1- I 304 9f)U B. Tjawrenco, both of tho fity of St. .lolin aforcwiid, who each own twcnty.fofl, |iiAr<is (hereof, and inysvlf, who own the reiniiiniiij; uixtccri slitiri'H tliurcof. 3. I am the manu^jing owner and iiiu>ttt'r of the siiid seliooiier " Ariel." 4. On the 9lli day of Fehrimry, 18H!», a.h., I cleiiveil the siid schooner " .Ariel" ai the Customs lit tiie said |)ort of X'ictoriu for ii li-iiin!;- iiiul -I'al-iiiiiitin;; voya:;i- in tin North PaciHe Ocean and Helirin^c's Sea, and on tiie I Ith day of naid montii sailed Iroo ■aid port of Victoria on such voyajje. 5. On and lor said \ova{;o I was master of said 'Ariel" and oni- llermnn Smit!, was mate, and said " Ariel ' on said voya^jc carriid a crew o1' twenty-two men all u,..; The Haid schooner '• Ariel " was e(|nipj)i'd and provisioiu'd for a fall season's voyajje. 0. On the 12lh day of July followin};, the "Arid" entered nehiinjj's Sea. Tin scalbkins which liad been tnken by the lumters (m said seJKtoner in tlie North Pacific Ocean liad been shipped to Victoria before entering IJebrinn's Sciv, and no skins wore on board on said 12th .luly. 7. Tlie lumters on tiie " Ariel " began sealing on the 14lh day of Hiiid July, and in tbo sixteen days following captured aiiout KK> sealskins. 8. On the HOth day of said month of July, at about ti o'clock in the niornirif;, the United States' Kevenue cutter " Richard l!nsh " came alongside the "Ariel " and three officerH from .said " J?ichard Kusb " boarded the "Ariel." The .said ollicers e.xaiiiined and searched the " Ariel," asked the innnljer of my crew, whcu I entered the sea, and how many .sealskins I ba<l on board, and warned and threatened mc that if I was cnii^'lit taking seals, or with fresh sealskins on board, the "Ariel " would be seized, and iiijst'f and mate placed under arrest. The said odicers also told me that they had seized ihc schooners " I'athfinder," " Black Dianumd," and "Minnie,'' and searched other Tessclj in the sea. The ofllcers then left, and shortly after the cutter sailed away. 9. Fearing to remain in Hehring'>' Sea lest I sliould lose my vessel and he nivself Sut ill prison, I at once .sailed for one of the passes leading from the sea. Jn tlicHjst ay of July I lost a boat with three men, and remained some days in tlie imnieiliRte vicinity in order to pick them up. On the 21st August the "Ariel" .sailed out of Bchring's Sea, homeward bound, with S44 .^calskins on board. On the 2nd day of September the " Ariel " arrived at Victoiia aforesaid, fully one month earlier than the usual time of arrival for sealers from Behring's Sen. 10. From the actual number of seals captured by the " Ariel " before bein;; boarded as aforesaid and from the number actually capiureil by other sealing vcsscij, with about the same equipment of boats and men as the " Ariel," [ believe that had the " Ariel" not been molested in Behring's Sea (and but for such boarding and threatening as aforesaid she certyinly would have remained the full season) the said " Ariel " would bave made a total catch of not less 2,()(i() sealskins. 11. The selling price of sealskins at said Victoria on the said arrival of the "Ariel" and on the Ist October, about which time sealing vessels usually arrive al Victoria from a full season's voyage, was S dollars ])er skin. 12. I for myself, the said John M. Taylor, and the said Bella R, Lawrence, mj co-owners in said schooner "Ariel," and likewise for the crew of the said "Ariel" on said voyage who were and are entitled to share in the total catch of sealskins by said ♦cssel for the full season aforesaid, claim damages of and from the Government of the | United States of America for the illegal boarding as aforesaid of the said schooner, and for having by threats and intimidation broken up the voyage of said schooner "Arid" and thereby caused the loss of at least I, lob sealskins to the said vessel, her owners. and crew, and for legal and other expenses incidental to the preparation and submission j of this claim. 13. Hereto annexed, marked (A), is a statement of such claim for damages as | aforesaid. And I, Samuel W. Bucknam aforesaid, make this solemn declaration conscientiously I believing the same to he true and by virtue of the " Act respecting voluntary and extra-judicial oaths." (Signed) SAMUEL W. BUCKNAM. Signed and declared by the said Samuel W. Bucknam the 29th day of November, 4-l>» 1889. Before me, (Signed) Abthub L. Beltba, A Notary Public by Royal Authority in and for , ■ the Province of British Columbia. lucloHure 4 in No. 270. Stitkmkst of claim iisaiiist tlio United States ot America re l)oarding and tbrcatu to Hcizc tlio HL'liooncr '• Ariel " in Mchrinff's Sea, July ao, 188U : — 'j.OOO HfiiNliiiH rutimiilcd t:Mv\\ for full Hcnuoii. Dollkn. M 14 „ numWr iirtiiully taken. I, lid „ t)iilimci> of vatiiiiiitud rntcli, vliiimuil ill (liiinngcK nt 8 dollnri .. 9,'i4H 1,1'Kiil and ollici' ('Xiu'iisuh iiici'luiilal I'l tin.' iiinkiiitt niiil i<ulimiiiiiuu of lUia • luiiii .. .. .. .. .. ,. .. ., 12S0 Tdtiil ,. Aiirt iutcre«t thcrion at tlio riU' of 7 prr ri'til. per annum until puiJ. 9,19(1 Tiiis irt the Statement of eJaim referred to in the declaration of Samuel W. Bucknam, maJo before me the 2!)tli N'ovemher, a.d. lHhl>. (Signed) A. L. BELYEA, Xotary Public. No. 271. Sir J. Pauncf/ote to tlm Mnnjuis of Salisbury.— (Received January 22.) My Lord, Wasliiinjton, January 9, 1890, WITH reference to my ileH|)ateii of the Sfitli ultimo, \ have the honottt to inclose lietewith cojiyof a Kesolutioii wliicli has lieen laid upon the table of the Senate by Senator Plumb in reijard to tiie advertisement of the Secretary of the Treasury, inviting tenders for a new lease of the Alaska .seal fisheries, I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTfe. • damages as Inclosurc in No. 271. Extract from thr " (.'omjre/isional Record" of January 7, 1890. Alaskii St'nl Fisheries. ^[|■. Plumb, — I offer a Resolution, which I ask may lie upon the table, and be printed. The Vice-President. — The Jlesolution will bo read. Tiie Chief Clerk read as follows : — " Whereas the Secretary of the Treasury has, by public advertisement, invited bids [ for leasing the Islands of St. Paul and St. (leorge, in the Territory of Ala'^kaj for a period ; of twenty years ; and I " W liereas tiie law under which said proposal is i-ssued was passed about twenty years since, and the circumstances and conditi )ns existing in Alaska, and with reference to the seal industry, have materially changed during that period ; and " Whereas it has been ciiargcd upon tlie authority of a late Governor of Alaska that Itlie Alaska Commercial (Jompany, now occupying said islands under lease from the Government, has exercised its privileges op))ressively and against the interests of both I tlie natives and the (rovernment ; and " W liereas said (Jompany claims that it is the only person or organization which can I surae.ssfully competo for the lease 'Kvitcd by the Secretary of the Treasury as aforesaid, and liiere is every reason to believe that under present legislation and conditions the lease proposed will be made to said Alaska Commercial Company substantially without competition. Therefore, " Resolved, — That tbe Secretary of the Treasury be requested not to make a new I lease of .said islands until further action by Congress, or until the latest period made necessary by existing law, and that meanwhile he make 'rA report to the Senate as to the I manner in which the said ^Vlaska Commercial Company has discharged its duties and ligations under the present lease, and also what additional legislation, if any, is necessary I in order that the interests of the Government and those of the natives and citizens of I Alaska may be more fully protected." The Vice-President. — The Resolution will lie on the table and be printed. I 1 I^I^S [128] 8 £ 2 ^.^1 396 No. 272. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received by telegraph, January 23.) My Lord, Washington, January 23, 1890. I HAVK the honour to inclose herewith copy of a note which I have received from Mr. Blaine, containing the answer of the United States' Government to the protest which Mr. Edwardes made by your Lordship's directions on the 12th October last against the seizure of Canadian vessels made by the United States' Revenue cutter "Rush"inBehring'sSea. I have; &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 272. - ■ Mr. Blaine to Sir J. Pauncefote, Sir, Department of State, Washington, .January 22, 18f)0. SEVERAL weeks have elapsed since I had the honour to receive through tlio hands of Mr. Edwardes copies of two despatclies from Lord Salisbury,* complaining of tlie course of the United States' Revenue cutter "Rush" in intercepting Canadian vessels sailing under the British flag, and engaged in taking fur seals in the waters of tlie Behring'.s Sea. Subjects which could not be postponed have engaged the attention of this Depart. ment, and have rendered it impossible to give a formal answer to Lord Salisbury until the present time, In the opinion of the President, the Canadian vessels, arrested and detained in the Behring's Sea, were engaged in a pursuit that is in itself coiitra bonos mores — a pursuit which of necessity involves a serious and permanent injury to the rights of the Govern. ment and people of the United States. To establish thi.i ground, it is not necessary to argue the question of the extent and nature of the sovereignty of thi'* Government over the waters of the Behring's Sea ; it is not necessary to explain, certainly not to define, the powers and privileges ceded by His Imperial Majesty the Emperor of Russia in the Treaty by which the Alaskan territo'-y was transferred to the I'nifcii States. The weighty considerations growing out of the acquisition of that territory, with all the rights on land and sea inseparably connected therewith, may be safely left out of view while the grounds are set forth upon which this Government rests it;; justification for the action complained of by Her Majesty's Government. It cannot be unknown to Her Majesty's Government that one of the most valuable sources of revenue from tlie Alaskan possessions is the fur-senl fisheries of the Behring's Sea. These fisheries had been exclusively controlled by the Government of Russia, without interference and without question, from their original discovery until the cession of Alaska to the United States in 1867. From 1867 to 1880 the possessi<m, in whi.'h Russia had been undisturbed, was enjoyed by this Government also. There 'vas no interruption and no intrusion from any source. Vessels from other nations passing fror time to time through Behring's Sea to the Arctic Ocean in pursuit of whales had always abstained from taking part in the capture of seals. This uniform avoidance of all attempts to take fur seal in those waters had been » constant recognition of the right held and exercised first by Russia, and subsequently hv this Government. It has also been the recognition of a fact now held beyond denial or doubt, that the taking ot seals in the open sea rapidly leads to their extinction. This is not only the well-known opinion of experts, both British and American, based upon prolonged observation and investigation, but the fact had also been demonstrated in a wide sense by the well-nigh total destruction of all seal fisheries except the one in the Behring's Sea which the Government of the United States is now striving to preserve, not altogether for the use of the American people, buL h' the use of the world at large. The killing of seals in the open sea involves the destruction of the female in common with the male. The slaughter of a female seal is reckoned as an immediate loss of three seals, besides the future loss of the whole number which the bearing seal may produce in the successive years of life. The destruction which results from killing seals in the open sea j»rocf ids, therefore, by a ratio which constantly and rapidly See Noi. iJ8 aOd 229. :)n7 increases, and insures the total extermination of the species within a very brief period. It has thus become known that the o"lj proper time for the slaughter of seals is at the season when they betake themselves to the land, because the land is the only place ffliere the necessary discrimination can be made as to the age and sex of the seal. It would seem then, by fair reasonlMSf, that nations not po.-scssincf the territory upon which seals can increase their numbers by natural growth, and thus aiford an annual supply of skins for the use of mankind, should icfVr.ia from the slaughter in open sea, where the destruction of the species is sure and swift. After the acquisition of Alaska, ,ho Government of the United States, through competent agents, working- under the direction of tlie best experts, gave careftil attontion to the improvoment of the seal fisheries. Proceeding by a close obedience to ihe laws of nature, and rigidly limiting the number to be annually slaughtered, the Government succeeded in increasing the total number of seals, and adding corre- spondingly and largely to the value of the fisheries. In the course of a few years of intelligent and interesting experiment, the number that could be safely slaughtered was fixed at 1CO,000 annually. The Company to which the administration of the fisheries was intrusted by a lease from this Government has paid a rental of .50,000 dollars per annum, and, in addition thereto, 2 dol. 0-J c, per skin for tlie total number taken. The skins were regularly transported to London to bo dressed and prepared for the markets of the world, and tlie business liatl grown so largo that the earnings of F-nglish labourers, since Alaska was transferred to the United States, amounts in the aggregate to more than 12,000,000 dollars. The entire business was thus conducted peacefully, lawfully, and profitably ; profitably to the United States, for the rental was yieiuing a moderate interest on the large sum which this Government bad paid for Aififka, including the rigiits now at issue; profitably to the Alaskan Compnny, which, under Governmental direction and restriction, had given unwearied pains to the care and development of the fisheries ; profitably to the Aleuts, who were receiving a fair pecuniary reward for their labours, and were elevated from semi-savagery to civilization, and to tiie enjoyment of schools and churches provided for their benefit by the Government of the United States; and, last of all, profiti'bly to a kige body of English labourers who had constant employment and received good wages. This, in brief, was the condition of the Alaska fur-seal fisheries down to the year 18S0. The precedents, customs, and rights had been established and enjoyed either by Russia or the United States for nearly a coiitmy. 'i'he two nations were the only Powers that owned a loot of land on the coutinen'.s that bordered, or on the islands included within, the Bcluing's waters where tlu^ .^eals resort to brood. Into this peaceful and secluded field of labour, whose be.irfits were so equitablv shared by ilie native Aleuts of the Pribyloff Islands, by the Uiii'.ed States, and by England, certain Canadian vessels in 1880 asserted their right to enter and, i)y tiieir ruthless course, to destroy the fisheries, and with them to destroy aiso the resulting industries which are so valuable. The Goveinment of the United States at once proceeded to check tiiis movement, which, unchecked, was sure to do great and irreparable harm. It was cause of unfeigned surprise to the United States that Her j\fajesty's Govern- ment should immediately interfere to defend and encourage (sure'y to encourage by liet'cnding) the course of the Canadians in disiurbing an industry which had been carefully developed for more than ninety years under the tlags of l{us>ia and the United States, developed in such manner as not to interfere with the public rights or the private industries of any other pco[de or any other person. Whence did the ships of Cnnada derive the right to do in IS8G that wiiich they had letVaiued from doing for more than ninety years ? Upon what grounds did Her Abijesty's Government defend in the year 188(3 a course of conduct ii the Behring's Sea which she had carefully avoided ever since the discovery of that sea? By what reasoning did Her Majesty's Government conclude that an act may be committed with impunity against the rights of the United States which had never been fttenipted against the same rights when held b the llussian Empire ? So great has been tlic injury to the fisheries from the irregular and destructive slaughter of seals in the open waters of the P.ehring's Sea oy Canadian vessels, that whereas the Government has allowed 100,000 to be taken anmuUy for a series of years, it is now compelled to reduce the number to 00,000. If four years of this violation of natural law and neighbour's rights has reduced the annual slaughter of seal by 40 per cent., it is easy to see how short a period will be required to work the total destruction of the fisheries. The ground upon which Her Majesty's Government justifies, or at least defends, ■^:l i ' 398 the course of the Canadian vessels, rests upon the fact that they are committing their acts of (lestructija \,i\ the hin;h seas, viz., niore tlian 3 marine miles from the shore-line It is doubtful -.vhether Her Majesty's Government would abide by tliiw rule if the attempt were made to interfere with the pearl Hshcries of Ceylon, which extend 20 miles from the shore-line, and have been enjoyed by England without molestation ever since their acquisition. England has felt authorized to sell tlie lislicry riglits from year ti> year. Nor is it credible that modes of fishing on the Grand Banks, altogether practicable but highly destructive, would be justified or even permitted by Great Britain on the plea that the vicious acts were committed more than 3 miles from shore. There are, according to scientific authority, " great colonies of fish on the New. foundland banks. These colonies resemble the scats of great populations on land. They remain stationary, having a limited range of water in which to live and die." In these great " colonies," it is according to expert judgment comparatively easy to explode dynamite or giant powder in such manner as to kill vast quantities of fish, and at the same time destroy countless numbers of eggs. Stringent laws have been necessary to prevent the taking of fish by the use of dynamite in many of the rivers and lakes of the United States. The .same mode of fishing could readily be adopted with effect on the more shallow parts of the banks, but the destruction of fish in proportion to the " catch," says a high authority, might be as great as 10,000 to 1. Would Her Majesty's Government think that so wicked an act could not be prevented, and its perpetrators punished, simply because it had been committed outside of the 3-niile line? Why are not the t>vo cases para^el taking of fur seal in a manner that des.j";-. extermination of the species, fii • < 't- is totally destroyed, in order that .| The Canadian vessels are engaged in the tho power of reproduction, and insures the .'ij' the species an article useful to mankind and immoral gain may be acquired by a few persons. By the emuloyment of dynamite on the banks, it is no*/ probable that the total destructioii of fish c mid be accomplished, but a serious diminution of a valuable food for man might assuredly result. Does Her Majesty's Government seriously maintain that the law of nations is powerless to prevent such violation of the common rights of man r Are the supporters of justice in all nations to be declared incompetent to prevent wrongs 80 odious and so destructive ? tn the judgment of this Government, the law of the sea is not la\Nlessness. Nor can the law of the sea and the liberty which it confers and which it protects be perverted to justify acts which are immoral in themselves, which inevitably lend tc results against the interest and against the welfare of mankind. One step beyond that which Her Majesty's Government has taken in this contention and piracy finds its justification. The President does not eonceivo it possible that Her Majesty's Government could, in fact, be less indillerent to these evil results than is the Government of the Lnited States. But he hopes that Her Majecty's Governmeui will, after this frank expression of views, more readily comprehend the position of tiii> Government of the United States h !u order to adjust all differences . ', Jv proposed a solution not only ^'.' 1 ...nthas declined to accent the jiAiuts with deep interest, not •.'i'.: .Imenf whicli Her Majesty's to which this Government is touching this serious question. This Government has been ready to concf.de of view, and has in tlie judgment of the Presi'!' ii equitable, but generous. Tims far, Her Majesty c. proposal of the United States. The President no unmixed with solicitude, any propo.sition for reasonable Government may submit. Tiie forcible resisuinee constrained in the Behring's Sea is, in .he President's judgment, demanded not only by the necessity of defending the traditional and long-established rights of the United States, but also the riglits of good morals and of guoil government tiie world over. In this contention, the Government of the United States has no occasion and no desire to witluiraw or modifv the positions whicii it has at any time maintained a!^!,ainst the claims of the Imperial Government of Russia. Tho United States will not withhold from any nation the privi'eges whieii it demanded for itself when Alaska was part ef the linssian Empire. Nor is the Government of . United States disponed to exercise in rhose possessions any less i-for or authoii . 'r-n it was willing to concede to the Imperial Government of '<'\!^.\ when its -o '.v ■ extended over them. The Presidunt is persuaded th i.ii friendly nations : l concede to the United States the same rights and privileges on the lands and in the vaters of Alaska which the same friendly tiations always !^^n'^e'led to the Empire of Russia. I have, &c. ,,,,,, (Signed) JAMES O. BLAINE. jsmm -iLi'iwjaui 399 No. 273. The Marquk of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauiicefote. — {Substance telegraphed.) Sir, Foreitjii Office, January 28, 1890. I HAVE received vour tele<>iain of the 23rd irstiint, giving the substance of a note you had received from Mr. Blaine, in reply lo the proposals made to the Government of the United States for the reopening of negotiations on the Behring's Sea question. Her Majesty's Government will be prepnrcd, when the text i.f the note reaches them, to give it their careful consideration, and to return a formal reply. So far a.s they are at present able to judge, it lays ilown doctrines in international law to which they would be unable to subscribe. Jleanwhilc, they would be glad to know wliethcr, in your opinion, it would be desirable that, in TC\)\y to Air. Blaine's assurance that "the Government of the United States await with deep interest, not unmixed with anxiety, any suggestion for a rensonalde adjustment of the points at issue between the two Governments," you should now make proposals in the sen>c explained in youi despatch of the Ist November last, with the modifications which, after consultation with the Colonial Office, have been considered necessary. The following are the terms which Her Majesty's Government would be prepared to authorize you to propose to Mr. Rlaine : — (((.) That the tripartite negotiation for securing a close time in Behring's Bea for the protection of the fur-seals should be resumed at Washington. (/>.) 'J'hat all well-lounded claims for compensation on the part of British subjects for seizures in the past of their vessels bv authorities of the United States should be dealt with by a separate negotiation as speedily as possi'k, bul ♦hat it should be understood that Her Majesty s Goveinmeiit must be satisfied on this point before they can come to any settlement in regard to a close season. (r.) Lastly, that an assurance sbonid be obtained from the Government of the United States that there shall be no further seizures of British ships in Behring's Sea while negotiations are proceeding. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 274. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received by telegraph, January 30.) My Lord, Washington, January 30, 1890. I HAVE the honour to inform your Lordship that I think it is important that I should know the total amount of compensation which is claimed for the seizures of British vessels in Behring's Sea up to date before making the proposals indicated in your Lordship's telegram of the 2Sth instant. I have told Mr. Blaine that Her Alajcstys Government must have satisfaction on this point before they can agree to any settlement on the other question. Arguing from his stand-i)oint he denies any riglit of compenantion, but he is willing, for the sake ot's.'ttling so grave a ilispuie, to consult the President of the United States k? to a grauiitois otter of a lump sum in full satisfaction, in order tbat discussions on itei.^s involviiif principles on which the views of the two Governments appear irrecou- cilnbii may hi avoided. He has, therefore, asked me to obtain tl 3 above informatior as soon as possible. If this difficulty be surmounted, negotiations for a close season might be commcnc^cl at once, subject to adequate arsurances against further seizures, which, I thick, I might be able to obtain. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIiN PACl.vEFOTB. I: 'i 400 • : ., No/275. Colonial Office to Foreign ODicc. — {Received February \.) Sir, " Downinri Street, January dl, 18%. I AM directed by Lord Kniitstbrd to triinsniit to you, to be laid bef'or ) the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy ot a despnU-ii iVoin the Governor-General of Canada, forwarding a claim to compensation on beluilt of tlu^ owner of. the Britisli schooner " Kate," which vessel was ordered from the Bclirins's Sea in August last by an officer of the United States' Revenue-cutter " Richard liusli." I am to add that tliis claim had not previously been received, and Lord Knutsford has inquired, by telegraph, whether any further claims are to be expected. I Jim, &c, ,,;;, ., (Signed) JOHN BEAM8T0N. ' ' Inclosure 1 in No. 275. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. ' • My Lord, Government House, Ottawa, January 6, 1890. I HAVE the honour to forwnrd herewith, for transmission to the United States' Government, a copy of an approved Report of a Committee of the Privy Council submitting declarations a nd formal statement of the claim to compensation on behalf of the owner of the Britisn schooner " Kate," which vessel was on the 13th August last, while engaged on a sealing voyage, ordered from the Behring'a Sea, under threat of seizure, liy nn officer of the United States' Revenue cutter " Richard Rush." Your Lordship will observe that th;.' claim amounts to the sum of 11,210 dollars for loss incurred by reason of the snid vessel being interferred with in the legitimate pmsiiit of her calling, and is advanced by Mr. Charles Spring, of Victoria, British Columbia, ns sole owner of the vessel in question. T have, &c. ' ■ ' ' (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosure 2 in No. 275. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency Ik Governor-General in Council on the 2^th December, 1889. ON a Report, dated 27tli December, 1881), from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, submitting the appended declarations and formal statement of the claim to compensation on behalf of (lie owner of the British schooner " ivate," which vessel was on the l^th i\ugust, 188!), while engaged on a sealing voyage, ordered from the Behring's Sea (so-called) Jinder threat of seizure by an officer of the United States' Revenue- cutter "Richard Rush." The Minister observes that the claim amounts to 11,210 dollars for loss incurred by reason of the said vessel being interfered with in the legitimate pursuit of her calling, and is advanced by Mr. Charles Spring, of Victoria, British f'olumbia, as sole owner of the schooner in question. The Minister recommends that this claim be forwarded through the proper channel to Her ^Majesty's Government for transmission to the Government of the United States. The Committee advise that your Excellency bo moved to forward a copy of this Minute, together with the pnpers mentioned herein, to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Cidonics. All of which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. mmmmmmsm 401 ' ' '- • . Appendix. Canada, Province of British Columbia, . , City of Victoria. I, Neils Moss, of the city of Victoria, province of British Columbia, Dominion of Canada, master mariner, do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows : — 1. The hereinafter mentioned schooner "Kate" is a British vessel, registered at the port ot Victoria, British Columbia, and owned by Cliarles Spring, of the same place. 2. On or about the Ist June, 1889, I cleared the said schooner " Kate," as master thereof, at the Customs-house, port of Victoria, for a fishing and hunting voyage in the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea. On the following day the " Kate " sailed on said voyage, fully equipped and provliioned for a whole season's voyage, and carrying a crew of four men. 3. On the west coast of Vancouver Island I engaged and took on board sixteen Indian hunters and sailed northward, entering Behring's Sea on or about the 20th .July following, having then on hoard twenty-four seal-skins caugit outside Behring's Sea. 4. A few days after entering the Sea the hunters began taking seals, and continued to do so up to the 13th August following, on. which day the "Kate" had on board 630 teal-skins. 5. On said 13th August, at about 6 o'clock in the evening, the United States' Revenue- cutter " Richard Rush " steamed up to the " Kate," within hailing distance, and an officer asked me what I was doing. 1 replied that [ was fishing. He said that he had orders to order all schooners out of IJehring's Sea if caught sealing, and if he saw me again :n the Sea he would seize me. The wind was blowing a gale at the time, and the cutter steamed away. 6. in consequence of what had been said to me by the officer of the said cutter I at once determined to leave the Sea and not risk seizure, and on the 16tli day of the said month of August the " Kate " sailed out of Behring's Sea by the Ounimak Pass, and sailing south reached Victoria about the 10th September, after some days' delay on the west coast of Vancouver Island. 7. Before being spoken by the said cutter, my intention was to remain in Behring's Sea until the 1st September, and with the hunters I had and average weather I verily believe that by the 1st September, had not the " Kate " been ordered to leave the Sea and threatened with seizure if seen again by the said cutter, tlic said " Kate " would have made a total catch of not less than 2,000 seal-skins. The best part of the sealing season in the said Sea was about beginning, and in the three days just preceding the said 13th August the hunters on the " Kate " brought in about 300 seal-skins. I, Neils MosH, aforesaid, make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the " Act respecting extra-judicial oaths." (Signed) NEILS MOSS. Signed and declared by the said Neils Moss, the 7th day of December, a.d. 1889, before me. (Signed) Artiiuk, L. Belvka, Notary Public by Royal Authority in and for the Province of British Columbia. Caiiiula, Province of British Columbia, Victoria. 1. Charles Spring, of the city of Victoria, province of Britisli Columbia, Dominion of Cunada, trader and ship-owner, do solemidy and sincerely declare as follows: — i. I am the sole owner of the schooner " Kate," of the port of Victoria, aforesaid. 2. I have read the declaration of Neils Moss, the master of said schooner on a sealing voyage to the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea in 1889, and verily believe the same to be true. 3. 'i"he market value of seal-skiiis at V'ictoria, aforesaid, at or about the time the ' Kate " arrived fioni said voyage and wince that time, was, and now is, 8 dollars [ per skin. i. f , on my own behalf and on behalf of the crew of said schooner, claim damages otund from the Government of the United States of America for having, by force of I tlireats and intimidation, compelled the master of said schooner on said voyage to leave Behring's Sea before the close of the sealing season, and thus depriving the crew and I owner of said vessel of the benefits and profits of e full season's catch of seal-skins. [128] 8 E J' I i:'ilu a m \M I \ ii I ! 402 I also claim compensation for legal, personal, and other expenses in connection with the preparation and submission of this claim for damages, and hereto annexed marlced (A) is a statement in detail of such claim. And I, Charles Spring, make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing the I to be true, and by virtue of the " Act respecting extra-judicial oaths." (Signed) C. SPRING. same 1 Signed and declared by the said Charles Spring, the 13th day of December, a.d. 1889 before me. (Signed) Authur L. Bbltea, .... A Notary Public by Royal Authority in and for the Province of British Columbia. Statement of Claim by Owner of schooner " Kate." li.OOO seal-skinfi, estimated catch by " Kate " for full season of 1889 in Hehriug's Sea. 630 less number taken up to 13tb Au^uxt, 1889. 1,370 balance, nt 8 dollars per skin .. ,. ,. .. .. Legal and other expctiscR in preparation and submission of this claim . . Dollars. 10,960 t 250 Total 11,210 And interest there >n at 7 per cent, until paid. This is the statement (A) of claim referred to in the declaration of Charles Spring, made before me the 13th day of December, 1889. (Signed) A. L. BELYEA, Notary Public. No. 276. The Marquis of Salisbury to FAr J. Pauncefote.— {Substance telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign Office, February 1, 1890. I HAVE to acknowledge the receipt of your telegram of the 30th ultimo, asking to be informed what is the total amount of the compensation claimed on account of the British vessels seized up to date by the United States' authorities in Behring's Sea. You are authorized to inform Mr. Blaine that the claims which have been presented to Her Majesty's Government amount to about 500,000 dollars. Her Majesty's Government would, of course, be willing to subject them to further examination, ond probably considerable reductions would be found to be admissible. Should differences of opinion arise as to the amounts to be awarded in the several cases, Her Majesty's Government might not be indisposed to agree that they should be referred to arbitratic''. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 277. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncef ate.— -(Substance telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign Office, February 1, 1890. I HAVE to inform you that the claims for compensation for the seizure of British vessels in Behring s Sea, submitted by the Canadian Government, have been revised at the Colonial Office and should not exceed 400,000 dollars. A summary of the various claims will be sent to you by mail this evening. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. ,.T- f ■m ' ■ * n '■ ■ •■■ No. 278. ■■ . Foreign Office to Colonial Office, gir, Foreign Office, February 6, 1890. I AM directed by the MnrqniH of Salisbury to state that his Lordship would bo glad to be favoured with any observations which Lord Knutsford may have to offer on the reply of the United States' Government to the protest of Her Majesty's Government against the seizures of Canadian scaling-vcsscls in Bchring's Sea by the United States' authorities.* I am, &c. (Signed) P. CURRIE. No. 279. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received February 7.) Sir, Downing Street, February 6, 1890. WITH reference to the last paragraph of the letter from this Department of the Slst ultimo, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, for the information of the Marquis of Salisbury, copies of telegraphic correspondence with the Governor- General of Canada respecting the claims on account of the seizures made by the United States' Revenue cruizers in Bchring's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. Inclosure I in No. 279. Lord Knutsford to Lord Stanley of Prenton. (Telegraphic.) Downing Street, January 30, 1890. I SHOULD be glad to know if there are any further claims for compensation Behring's aea, and what they amount to. Inclosure 2 in No. 279. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. (Telegraphic.) {Received at the Colonial Office, February 4, 1890.) THERE is one additional claim for compensation " Minnie," 16,400 dollars. I am sending summary of claims by post, and have forwarded a copy to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington for his information. No. 280. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Cfulisbury. — {Received by telegraph, February 8.) My Lord, Washington, February 7, 1890. THE terrible calr.mity which has befallen the family of the Secretary of the Navy and the renewed affliction in the family of the Secretary of State, both of which events I had the honour to report to your Lordship oy telegram, have delayed the further progress of the negotiations respecting the Behring's Sea question. But as soon as was practicable after the receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 1st instant I had an interview with Mr. Blaine and resumed the discussion on the subject of damages for the seizure of the Canadian vessels. I informed him of the amount of the claims, at which he appeared quite astounded. After some general conversation as to the nature and character of the damages claimed, Mr. Blaine said that, viewing the case as he did from the stondpoint taken in his reply [128] • See No. 272. r'- III i::l 3 F 2 I 404 to the protest of Her Majesty's Government against the seizure of the vessels ia question, he could never admit that his Government were justly liahle to pay any damages at all. But he was willing to examine and assess the damages with me on the same principle as if the liahility of his Government were admitted, and then to refer the question of liability to some eminent jurisconsult for decision, on ^vritten statements and answers submitted by the two Governments respectively. I objected that the whole Behring's Sea controversy would be raised in sui'h an arbitration, which it appeared to me would of necessity involve grave questions of international law more fitting for solution by an areopagus of the Great Powers. Mr. Blaine dissented from this view, urging that, as his Government had asserted no claim to the Behring's Seu as a mare clausum, no established principles of international law would be in dispute. The Arbitrator would only have to find whether, under the circumstances, the United States' Government ought to pay damages for the seizures. If he found in tlie affirmative, the damages previously assessed would be paid. 1 observed that, apart from other objections, it seemed to me premature to tnlk of arbitration ; and I reminded him that at our first interview (reported in my despatch No. 190 of the 1st November, 1889) he expresssed the opinion that, if an arrangement in regard to a close time should be arrived at, his Government would not wisli that private individuals who had acted Iwnd fide in the belief that they were exercising their lawful rights, should be the victims of a grave dispute between two great countries which had happily been adjusted. I inquired why he was no longer disposed to adopt this friendly and equitable mode of treating the question. Mr. Blaine replied that he was not aware, at tliat time, of the magnitude of the claims. He now learned for the first time that they were actually computed at nearly 500,000 dollars. Making all allowances for exaggerated demands, the claim was still too large to lie dealt with in any other way than by an appropriation vote of Congress, and his Governniont were not prepared to propose a vote of such an amount unless the liability of the United States' Government had been previously established by the award of an arbitrator. If Her Majesty's Government were disposed to agree to an arbitration such as he had indicated he was quite willing to resume at once here the tripartite negotiation for a close time commenced in London, and concurrently to proceed with the necessary steps for the settlement of the (juestion of damages. I renlied that at jiresent my instructions were that Her Majesty's Government would come to no agreement for a close time unless they obtained satisfaction in the matter of damages, and that I thought they would only accept arbitration on the question of amount. But I promised Mr. Blaine to communicate his proposals to your Lordship without delay, and I have accordingly done so by telegram. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No, 281. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Mnrquis of Salisbun/. — (Received by telegraph, February 8.) (Extract.) Washington, February 8, 1890. Wri'H reference to my telegram of yesterday's date, I have the honour to inquire whether your Lordship would see any objection to the tripartite negotiation for a close time for seals in Behring's Sea, and the assessment of damages for the seizures of Canadian vessels, being commenced at once, leaving the question of arbitration in suspense until the results of both proceedings are known. No. 282. Fcreign Office to Colonial Office. Hir, Foreign Office, February 10, 1890. WITH reference to my letter of the 3rd instant, I am directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to transmit herewith, to be laid before Secretary Lord Knutsford, a copy of a 405 telegram from Sir J. Pauncefote,* statmg that be has communicated the amount of the Behring's Sea claima to Mr. Blaine, who proposes to assess them proviaionally, and then to refer the question of the liability of the United States' Government to arbitration. I am to state that Lord Salisbury proposes, with Lord Kmitsford's concurrence, to autborize Sir J. Pauncefote to commence at once the tripartite negotiations and the assessment of damages, leaving the question of arbitration in suspense until the results of both proceedings arc known. I am, &c« (Signed) P. OURRIB. No. 283. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Foreign Office, February 10, 1890. I HAVE received your telegram of the 8th instant, stating that you have communicated to Mr. Blaine the amount claimed on account of the seizures of Canadian vessels, and that his Excellency states that such a sum could only be paid on the award of an arbitration, followed by a vote of Congress. You add that he is willing to assess the claims provisionally, leaving the question of the liability of the United States' Govern- ment to be eventually decided by arbitration. I have to acquaint you that Her Majesty's Government are willing to proceed in accordance with Mr. Blaine's suggestion, and that you are authorized at once to com- mence negotiations for a tripartite Agreement respecting the establishment of a close season, and the assessment of damages sustained on account of the seizure of the vessels. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 284. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received February 1 1.) (Extract.) Downing Street, February 11, 1890. WITH reference to previous correspondence, I ara directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, forwarding a Minute of the Dominion Privy Council on the subject of the Notice published by the United States' Government calling for tenders lor the lease of the Alaskan seal fisheries. Although, as suggested by the Canadian Government, the granting of such a lease as that referred to would be calculated to complicate the contemplated negotiations. Lord Knutsford is disposed to think that the issue of the Notice need not be held to preclude the commencement of those negotiations, and his Lordship desires me to su^^gest that a copy of this despatch should be sent to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington, with instructions to conimunicate it to the United States' Government, if he sees no objection. 1 ^Bp -^ ^BS '^ '' s V Inclosure 1 in No. 284. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Government House, Ottawa, January 20, 1890. WITH reference to the proposals made by Mr. Bayard for a close season for seals in Behring's Sea, which was dealt with by my Government in the Orders in Council, copies of which were forwarded in my despatches of the 3rd August, 1888, and of the llth November, 1889, 1 have the honour to forward herewith, for your Lordship's information, a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council, embodying a Report of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, in regard to an advertisement recently issued by the Secretary of the Treasury I'or the United States, calling for tenders for the exclusive privilege of taking seals on the Islands of St. Paul and St. George of the Pribylov group in the Behring's Sea for a term of twenty years from the 1st May, 1890. • See No. 280. ^"l H.; ^ 108 ' Your Lorclship will observe that my Government is apprehensive that a lease such m that contemplated in the advertisement, under whici) the monopuly which has existed for the past twenty years would be continued re<^rdles8 of any close season, may interfere with the proposed negotiations tor a close season. ' I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. •' ' < Inclosurc 2 in . o. 284. Report of n Commitlei' of the Ihitourable the Privy Council, approved hy his Kjtcellencij tht Gorernor-Generni i» Council on the \mh January, 1890. ON a Report dated tiie 4th .lanuaryi IftOO, from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, submitting in connection with the Minutes ot Council ut the Hth July, 188H, and 4ih November, 1889, approved by his Excellency the Ciovernor-General, upon the subject of the protection of t'nr-scals in the Behring's Seu, the appended advertisement recently issued by the Secretary of the Treasury for the United States of America, calling for tenders to be received u|) to the "i.'Jrd January instant for the exclusive privilege of taking fur-seals on the Islands of St. Paul and St. George, of the I'ribylov group, in the Dehring'ti Sea, commonly known as the Seal Islands, for a term of twenty years trom the 1st May, 1800. The Minister observes, in reference to the Honourable Mr. Bayard's proposal for interiuitionnl iictiou in the establishment of a close season fur seals in the Behring's Sea, extending from the li^th April to the Ist November, that the present advertisement would indicate on the part of the United States' authorities the intention to continue that monopoly of the seal industry vvhicb has existed for the past twenty years, regardless of any close reason applicable to the breeding grounds or rookeries of the seals. The Minister notices that Mie only iinjiortant difference between the terms of the proposed lease and those in the lease held by the Alaska Commercial Company, expiring in May 1800, is the limitation in the number of seals to be aimually killed, which is stated to be OO.OOO, instead of 100,000, (or the first year, the number t'l be fixed by the Treasury Department for succeeding years. The Minister desires to point out that the months open to the lessees of the breeding grounds for killing opemtions, during the next twenty years, ai-e June, July, September, and October, or four of the months in t!ic middle of the close season proposed by the Honourable Mr. Bayard on behalf of the United States' authorities. It has already been contended by your Excellency's advisers that the dates then proposed by the Honourable Mr. Bayard were fixed to practically exclude from fishing operations all vessels likely to frequent these waters for that purpose. The Minister observes that in support of the Honourable Mr. Bayard's proposal, it was con';ended that the British and other scalers were in the habit of killing ami wounding the COW- -seals with their young, and that therefore the necessity for the close season proposed by him was all the greater in the interest of the fishery ; but upon this it may be said that the British vessels seized or expelled from the Behring's Sea, almost without exception, entered that sea, in the month of July, or during the height of the killing season of the Alaska Commercial Company, and as the female seals (according to the United States' authorities) repair to the rookeries in June and July, where they soon ai\er bring forth their young, the opportunity for sealing-vessels to kill females with pup in the open waters of the Behring's Sea nmst be very rare. The Minister is of opinion that the attention of Her Majesty's Government should be called to this state of facts, and that they be informed that your Excellency's advisers are under the apprehension that the said lease may interfere with the proposed negotiations for a close season for Behring's Sea. The Committee concuiiing, advise that your Excellency be moved to forward a copy of this Minute to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for the information of Her Majesty's Government. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) John J. McGek, ■ ■ /• Clerk, Privy Council. Appendix. [See Inclosure in ISo. 268.] No 200. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salinbury. — {Received 61/ tnltijrnph, Fehriiaiy 1 1.) My Lord, IViishington, Fehruary \}, \9Q0. ' I COMMUNICATED the substancfc of your Lordsliip's telegram to Mr. Blaine late jcstcrday cveninpr, and he consented to your Lordship's proposal to oommcnee the tripartite negotiation and the assessment of damages al once. He said, at the same time, that he would communicate with the Russian Minister here on the subject and inform me of the result, with a view to common action by TOur Lordship and himself in inviting Russia to participate in the negotiations. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. , No. 287. Lord Knut*ford to Lord Stanley of Preston. — (Received al Foreign Office, Februnnj 12.) • (Telegraphic.) Downing Street, February 12, 1890. INSTRUCTIONS sent to Minister at Washington to commence negotiations for establishment of a close season, and provisiunatly for assessment of claims for damage; lie will also be directed to conuiiunicate with you as to fixing time for Representative of Dominion Government to assist you at Washington. No. 288. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Piiuncefote. Sir, Foreign Office, February 12, 1890. WITH reference to my despatch of the 28th ultimo, I have to request that you will bear in mind that all proposals from the United States* Government for the settlement of the Behring's Sea (]uestion should be received by you ad referendum. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 289. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J, Pauncefote.'-'{8ubstance telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign Office, February 13, 1890. I TRANSMIT to you herewith , oopy of a telegram from the Governor-General of Canada relative to the Behring's Sea negotiations ;* and I have to request you to communi- cate with the Governor-General of Canada with a view to settling the date on which the Representative of the Dominion, who will assist you in the negotiations, should arrive in Washington. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. • No. 287. No. 290. Sir J. Pauncefole to the Marquis oj Salisbury. — {Received by telegraph, February 14.) My Lord, fVashinaton, February 13, 1890, MB. BLAINE informed mc to-day that M. dc Struve, the RusHian Minister licrc. has telegraphed to his Government to inquire whutlier they conHcnt to hw taking part in the negotiations on the snbject of a close time tor seals in Behring's Sea. He hopes that your Lordship will, on your side, invite the Bussioii Qovernmcnt to participate m the proposed negotiations. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTR. I No. 291. Sir J. Paunce/ote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received by teleijnipli, February 14.) My Lord, Washington, Februurif 13, 1890, WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of to-day, I have the honour to inform your Lordship that I have written to the Governor-General of Canada and have requested him to be prepared to send a Canadian Agent to Washington, in order to assist me in the forthcoming negotiations on the subject of a close time for seals in Behring's Sea. I will not fail to telegraph to him as soon as I learn that the Bussian Government have consented to participr.te in the negotiations. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. The Marquis of >. 292. ury to Sir J, Pauncefote. Sir, Foreign Office, February 14, 1890. WITH reference to your despatch of tlic 9th ultimo, I transmit berewitli, for your information, a copy of a letter from the Colonial Office,* covering a copy of a despatch from the Governor- General of Canada, forwarding a Minute of the Dominion Privy Council on the subject of the Notice published by the United States' (Tovernment cnlling- for tenders for the lease of the Alaska seal fislieries. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 293. The Marqtiis of Salisbiiry to Sir R. Morier.— {Substance telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign Office, February 14, 18'JO. I HAA'E to inform your Excellency that Her Majesty's Government have agreed MJtli tliat of the United States thivt it is desirable to resume the negotiations, wiiicli coiised in 1S88, between Great Britain, Russia, and the United States for the establish- ment of a close time for seals in the Behring's Sea. 1 should be glad if your Excellency would invite the Russian Government to give iiishuctions to tlieir Representative at Washington to take part in negotiations for the purpose. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. • No. i84. 409 No 294. Sir li- Morier to thu Miirquis of Snihbury.* — (Received by telegrnph, February 23.) My Lnnl, '''• >.•!>'■ .' 8t. Pelersburyh, February 29, \8dO. ON receipt of your LordHlitii's tclo<?ram of the lUh inHtant, iriRtnicting mo inqiiiri' of the KiinHian (iovcrnmenl whether they would consent to their Mininter at \Vasliiiij;ti)n Inkiiif;: jiart in tiio negotiations respecting a close time for Hcal-fiHhing, wliirh llcr Mnjt'sty'H (>ovcrnnietit and the United States' Government arc anxious to ri'sunu', I at on<!o addressed a note to M. do Gicrs in this sense. [ have now tiie honour to transmit to your Lordsh'p a copy of the reply which I liftvc received from M. do (Jiers, stating tliat the Russian Minister at Washington has been instructed by telegraph to take part in the negotiations as desired by your Lordsliip. < J hftvc &c* (Signed) ' R. B. D. MORIER. IncloHurc in No. 294. A/, de Giers to Sir R. Morier. «ii M. I'AmbaBsadeur, Saint-Pe'lersbourg, /e 9 (21) F^rier, 1890. J'AI rcgu la note que votrc Excellence a hion voulu m'adresscr en date du 3 (15) courant au sujet de la reprise des ndgociations, interrompucs en 1888, relativc- ment n la fixation dc la pcriode durant laquclle la chasse aux otaries scrait defendue. Le Cabinet Imperial etant vivemcnt d^sircux dc niettre une fin aux discussions et aux malcntendus, nuxquels I'absence dc tout r^glement a ce siyet est de nature II donncr lieu, lo Ministre de Russic ik Washington vicnt d'etre autoris6 par t^legraphe h. prendre part aux ^ i^ociations en question. En me faisuut un devoir d'iuformcr votrc Excellence de ce qui pr<2c6de, je saisis, &c. (Signe) GIERS. (Translation.) M. I'Ambassadeur, St. Petersburgh, February 9 (21), 1890. I HAVE received the note which your Exfellency was good enough to address to mc on the Srd (15th) instant, on the subject of the resumption of the negotiations, broken off in 1888, relative to the fixture of a period during which the hunting of fur-seals should be prohibited. The Imperial Cabinet earnestly desire to put an end to the discussions and mis- understandings to which the absence of any regulation on the subject is calculated to give rise, and the Minister of Russia at Washington has accordingly been authorized by telegraph to take ])art in the negotiations in question. While making it my duty to communicate the above to your Excellency, I avail, &c. (Signed) GIERS. No. 296. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received February 22.) Sir, Downing Street, February 22, 1890. WITH reference to the letter from this Department of the 6th instant, I am directed by Lord Knutstord to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, forwarding the clnim for compensation in the case of the British schooner " Minnie," which was seized by Ihc United States' Revenue cruizer " Richard Rush " in Behring's Sea last year. This claim completes the list of claims on account of f ''.esc seizures. 1 am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. [128] * Substance tent to Sir J. Pauacefote by telegraph, February 22. 3 O I i2»^- u 410 Iiiclosuro 1 ill No. 2i)6. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lonl, Uorprr.menl House, Otlnwn, February 'A, IS'H/. VVrril rcl'i'rcncc (o llic Depulj (iovonior's doHpatcli ol' llio 2()th Soptcnilxr last relntivo to tlio Hoizuie in IJoliring'H Hen of the Hriiisli hcIiooiut "Minni-" \iy tlu United Stiilos' Hfvctuio outler '' Ridmnl UuhIi," I liavo l\w lioiujur to tiaiisiiiit to youi liordsiiip a copy of an approved Ktiport of a Conuiiittoc oi" the Vnvy Council, Hultniitiiii^ t'ormal Hiiitcmonts and claim ol' the owner, Mr. Victor •lncol)Hon, of Victoria, British C'oiumhia, nnii>nn<ini>' to Iho Huni of 10,4G() dollar.s. I have, »S£C. '.,,;) ' . ." (Signed) STANIilOy OlM'UKSTON. IncloHure 2 in No. 2!ir), lirimt iif (I Comtnitlee of the Ilonr.urable the Privy Coniiril, apjiroved by hin Kxcellenni tht i t overnor'dfnern} in Cotmeil on the 'A\M Jnmiary, 1890. ON a Uoport dated the HJtIi .laniuiry, I8!»0, f'ronj tlie MiniHtcr of Marirc and Fisheries, 8ui)n!ittinj;', witli reference to the Hcizure in the Hcliring's Hea of the Uritiah schooner " Minnie " (the eircumstflnccs attending which were detailed in a Minute of Council dated the 14th Septendier, 1S8!)), fcnmal statements and claims hy the owner, Mr. \ iotor .lacohsnn, of Victoria, liritish Columhia, to conijiensation for loss inciimMlbj renson of the seizure of the sni«l vessel, and the forcihlo removal therefrom to tiie United States' Revenue cutter " Richard Rush " of 420 seal-skins, and guns, spears, &(;., OS well as for the value of the catch for the halance of the season had the vessel not heen interfered with in the legitimate pursuit of her ailing, which claim aggregates I n,4(U) dollars: The Committee, on the uvonnuendation of the Minister of Marine and Visherics, advise that jour ICxeellency he moved to forward copies hereof to the Righf Honourable the Secretary of State for thcColoi\ies, for transmission to the Uoveniincnt of the United States. All which is respectfully suhmitted. (Signed) JOHN .). Mc(4KE, Clerk, Privy Coimcil. Fnclosurc 3 in No. 295. nerldralion of Viclo- Jarobsoii. City of Victoria, Provinci> of British Columhia, Dominion of Cinada. ' I, VICTOR .lACOBSON, of the city of Victoria, in the I'rovinco of British Columhia, Dominion of '^auada, master mariner, do .solemnly and sincoiy declare as follows : — 1. That I am the owner and niaiiler of the British vessel " Minnie," 60 Ions burilcn, registered at the port of Victoria aforosnid. 2. That in the lirst part of the month of May last 1 cleared the said "Miniiio" at the port of \ ictoria for a senling and hunting voyage in the North Pacific Ocean mid Behring's Soji, and sailed inimodialely afterwards. 3. I had ii crew of live white men and sixteen Indians, wit!: two hoals for wbilo hunters, eight canoes for Indian hunters, and completely provisioned and equipped '.irn full season's hunting and sealing in norlliern waters. 4. On the L'Tth day of .June last 1 entered the Behring's Soa, through Oimlnink Pass, havin^y then on honrd ahout 160 seal-Bkins caught on the way up from Victoria. <"'. I immediately engaged in hunting, and sealing and continued <> do so until the loth July last, at wliich date 1 had on hoard 420 seal -skins in all. IJ. On thot day, the loth duly last, r ^ut ■[■ o'clock in the afternoon, i siglitcila steame- hearing down upon ns, which jirovcd (o he the United States' Revenue steamer " Richard Rush.'" When within hailing distnnce, an officer on the said " Rush " I'nlled out io me to hcave-lo, and I did so , a hoat was sent oft' lYom the "Ru.sh '' witb two officers and ten or twelve men. The officer and five or .six men came on board tlie j " Minnie." The officer in command asked me for my papers, which I handed to him. 411 Ho tlieii linked n»c wliCii I onloiod tlii' hch, ami liow many HkiriH I had. I told him, mid he ■veni hark to Ihu " Hush." In a nhdiL timo lie loiiirncd and tohl nio ho would take all llie HkitiH, mshv my ve»nol,ni.d .st-iiil her to Hilkn in '.'liargo ol a niaii from tho ''- UuhIi." He then oidciod his men to open the luilrlR.s and take all tlie • "l.Hkiim, 420 in number, on 1)0111(1 llio " UuhIi," which was done. Ifc also took two guns and all the Indian sjioaiH. He then went Imcik to the " Hush," hut soon relumed to my vessel with a man, and said tome that this man would take eluiige of the vessel, except navigating' her, and take her t*- Bitka. 7. At the time of the seizure the " Minnie " was about 66 njles north-west by west from Ounimak I'liss, and aliout the same distance from Ounimak sland, the nearest land. 8. An hour or so after the "Uiish "' went away the man left in charge showed me liimvritten instructions from (Japlain Hhepard, of the '• Richard Uusli;"a8 nearly as T can romomhcr the directions he was to deliver the " Minnie" to the United Htates' authorities III Sitka, and place her captain, myself, and mate undrr arrest. I at once made up my iiiiiid to stay where I was and catch what seals I could. Next morning f made new spcHTS for the Indiana and sent tliem out scaling. \ remained in tlie sea up to the lOtli j^ugiist following, anu in that timo caught 480 seals and eight sea otters. [ did not sec anything of the " Rush " after the ir>tli .Inly. 9. In the scafiin of IHHB I was in command of the schooner "Mountain Chief," with ten Indii.n hunters only. 'I'lio said " Mountain Clhief " was in Behring's Sea less tlian twenty days, and in seventeen days' actual sealing the ten Indian hunters caught 'J37 soal-skins. On the said schooner " Minnie," in 1880, I had sixteen Indian linntcrs and two white liunters, and but for the interference of the United States' Revenue cutter "Richard Rush," as aforesaid, (be " Minnie " would l.ave remained in Uehring's Sea until about the lOth Hcptember, or a ]<criod of over two months. 10. I verily believe that if the "Minnie" had not been boarded, and the guns and spears taken as aforesaid, that the total catch of seal-skins by the hunters on board her for tlie season in Uehring's Sen would not have been less than 2,000. 11. The value at Victoria aforesaid of seal-skins on or about the close of the sealing season for 1HB9, and for some time both bel'oro ami after such close, was 8 dollars per skin. I claim damages from the Government of the United Htates of America for the seizure of the said "Mmnic" as nforesaid, and for the taking and detention of the said 420 scni-skins, and for 1 ,5!H seal-skins, the balance of an estimated catch of 2,500, by the " Miniiie " in Reliring's Sea for the season of ir,ri!», also for the guns, siiears, and salt takoa as aforesaid, and for legal and other exjjenses incidental to and arising out of such soiKiire, and tho preparation and submission of this vhhw therefor, and interest thereon al7pcr cent, per iinnum until paid, a statement in detail of which daim is heremito annexed. And I, Victor ,Iacobson, make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing tho same to he true, and by virtue of the .^ct respecting extra-judicial oaths. (Signed) VICTOR JACOHSON. Declared by the said Victor Jacohson, at the city of Victoria, the 4th day of ■lunuary, 1390. r>efore me, (Signed) Ahthuk L. BKbYKA, A Notary Public, In/ Royal authority, in and for the Province of liritisli Cotiiinliia. Stntement of Claim. — Schooner " Mir.ne." For damages for i. jizure, &c., in Behring's Sea, July 15, 1889, by United ' cutter " Richard Rush." 4'20 seal BkitiK tnkcii from " Minnie" by " Uiclmrd llusli." 1,594 bulnnce n( i'»limiitocl cntoli of 'i.flOO in Hehiing'B Sen in 1H8",) by " Minnie," nfter ilciluclin({ 480 l)rouf;lit to Victoriii by " Minnie." ';,')M at S (lolliirH per Hkin .. i );un at .in (liillai'H, I {{tin at 10 dollars 10 'ndiun t>|K'aiH, at !) (lollarH .. .. .. •• 2 MicUh salt, nt 1 dol. 60 c. .. .. .. .. Legal and otiior oxpcnnes ., ,. ., .. .. , ; ',) )'!'',)i|' < ■ ^ Total clniin ., .. .. •• And interest on said amount at 7 per cent, per annum until paid, 128 J States' Revenue Dollars. KM 12 G5 30 3 250 16.460 3 G i , 1 ■ ^m m 412 This is the Statement referred to in the annexed declaration of Victor Jacob»nn made before me the 4th day of January, 1890. (Signed) ARTHUR L. BELYEA, . : Notary Public. No. 296. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received by telegraph, February 23.) My Lcrd, Washington, February 22, 1890. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of to-day, 1 have the honour to report that I have telegraphed to Lord Stanley to inquire when 1 may expect the arrival in Washington of the Canadian Agent who is to assist me in the coming negotiations. Mr. Blaine, M. dc Struve, the Russian Minister, and I, held a preliminary and informal meeting this morning, at which the question of the area of the possible arrange- mcnt was discusi^cd. Mr. Blaine and M. de Struve then proposed the following area : " From a point on the 50th parallel north latitude due south from the southernmost point of the Peninsula of Kamtchatka ; thence due east on the said 6i»th parallel to the point of the intersection with the 160th meridian of longitude west from Greenwich; thence north and east by a straight line to the point of intersection of the 60th parallel of north latitude with the 140th meridian of longitude west from Greenwich." The 60th parallel, as your Lordship is aware, was the southernmost limit pioposed by Mr. Bayard, and it need only bo extended on the west to the Kamtcliatka Peninsula, as M. de Struve states that there is ^o seal fishery in the Sea of Ochotsk. I objected, however, to the limit on the east being extended beyond the 160th meridian of longitude, which was the limit proposed by Mr. Bayard, and is quite sufficient for the necessities of the case. I should be much obliged if your Lordship would inform me whether you approve of the area now suggcsteti by Mr. Blaine and M. de Struve, provided it bo limited on tiio cast by the 160th meridian. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 207. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, February 24, 1890. WITH reference to the letter from this Office of the 22nd instant, I am directed bj the Marquis of Salisbury to transmit to you the accompanying copy of a telegram from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington,* giving the result of an informal conversation with the Secretary of State and the Russian ilinister on the subject of an area within which the proposed avraiigcment relating to the Behving's Sea seal fisheries might be applied. I am to request that, in laying this telegram before the Secretary of State for the Colonics, you will move his Lordship to favour Lord Salisbury, at his earliest convenience, with his opinion as to the answer which should be returned to it. I am, &c. ,1 _,. (Signed) T.H.SANDERSON. No. 208. ^,, _ , , ,^,, , Colonial Office to Foreign Office, — (Received February 28.) Sir, Donning Street, February 2", 1890. I AM directed by Lord Knntsford to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 24th instant, inclosing a tclegiam from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington, in whicfi he reports the result of a preliminary and informal Conference on the subject of the area • No. 296. 413 within which the proposed close setuson for fur-seals in Behring'a Sea should be confined, and requesting instructions as to the distance to the eastward at which the line limiting such area should be drawn. I am to observe, in reply, that in order to avoid unnecessary interference with British subjects, it is desirable that the area no less than the period of the close season should be confined within the strictest limits absolutely essential for the preservation of the seah from extermination ; and the 1 r;e proposed by Sir J. Pauncefote appears to Lord Knuts- ford to include more of the open sea than is necessary, bearing in mind that the object of the negotiations is solely the sufficient preservation of the seals, and not the mafaten- ance in its integrity of the monoply claimed on behalf of the lessees of the Pvibylofi Islands. It appears to his Lordship that this object might be attained sufficiently by fixing an area round these islands within which sealing should be prohibited during the period when tlic female seals are on these islands, or in their near nci hbourliood, and also possibly in the inmiediate vicinity of the passes of the Aleutian Islands. 'J'hc matter is one, however, on which the Secretary of State for the Colonies could ii()l undertake to express any definite opinion without that information which the Government of Cai.ada is alone able to supply ; and his Lordship would suggest, in order to save time, that Sir J. Pauncefote should be desired to confer with Mr. Tupper, the Dominion Minister of Marine and Fisheries, who, it is i. derstood is now at Wiishington, before committing Her Majesty's Government to any line of demarcation which the Government of Ca-mda may hereafter object to as undesirable. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. w fl No. 299. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J, Pauncefote. — (Substance telegraphed.) Sir, Foreign Office, February 28, 1890. I HAVI5 had under my consideration, in communication, with the Secretary of State for the Colonies, your telegram of the 23rd instant, rep' ting the result of a preliminary discussion with Mr. Blaine and the Russian Minister at Washington respecting the area within Avhich it is proposed to prohibit seal fishing in Behring's Sea during a fixed period nf each year. Before coming to any decision with regard to the area now proposed. Lord Knuts- ford would be glad to know what \ icw of it is taken by the Government of Canada. I have ordiiii^ly to request you, in order to save time, to consult the Canadian Minister of ", who is now at Washington, on the subject, and to inform me of his opinion by tek-^utpii. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 300. Str ,7. Pauncefote to the Maiquis of Salisbury. — {Received March 5) My Lord, Washington, February 11, 1890. WITH reference to my despatch of the 7th instant, I liave the honour to report that I liad a further interview this day with llio Secretary of State, at his request, on the subject of the proposed arbitration, and pro\ : jnnl assessment of damages. Mr. Blaine said that it might be ri>n\ lent if he were to put in writing, informally, his views as to the question to be arbitrau il, and the procedure to be followed in regard to the assessment of damages. He accordingly, in my presence, drew up a Memorandum, of which he afterwards handed mu a copy. It is in the following terms : — "The first question to be arbitrated is whether, under the circumstances existing < L the time, the Government of the United States was justified in arresting and detaining the vessels that entered the Behring's Sea for the purpose of killing fur-seals in the open sea. " In the event of the arbitrator finding that the Government of the United States was justified in arresting and detaining the vessels before described, th^ case would be finished. .,_ I 4H "In the event that the Government yf the United States was found not to be justified, tlic second question would be tlie aseertainnient of tlie amount of damages due to the Government of Great Britain, [f that anvcunt coidd not bu amicably detorniined by the British Minister in Washington and the American Secretary of State, it would be left to the determination of the arbitrator, who should find the amount according tu certain principles previously agreed to by both Parties'." .,„, n.^i^,,,, .. I have, &c. • " JT.r. iiv -s.', ' ■- .. . .: i ,,,, ... (Sif,-ned) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 301. 'i^iij'. >: II J ; •-■! .«.• Sir J. Pauncefole to the Marquis of Salisbur!/. — (Received March 5.) My Lo"d, ." . . ■ , Waahinriton, Felmiary '2fy,lfi'M. I HAVE tho honour to inclose an extract from the " New York Herald " of ycstcwlay stating tliat the Russian Govtn'ument has contirm(!d the renewal of tho lease of the Russian seal islands in Bchving's Sea to tho Alaska Commercial Company. I am, &c. 'II ; (Signed) TULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosiire in No. 301. Extract from the "New York Herald" of February 19, 1890. [TiiK Fun-SuAL Monopoly. —Russia kenews the Alaska Company's Lease of Islands in Beiibing's Sea. ■ • . • [«y Telegraph to the '« Herald."] San Francisco, February 18, 1890. A PRIVATE despatch received here to-day announces that tho Imperial Russian Government has confirmed tlie renewal of tlio ]oas(< of the Russian seal islands in Beliring's Sea <^o the Alaska Commei-cial Comi)any of this city. This action is understood to be based upon a pers'iasion that tho Government of the United States will take a similar course with regard to its own seal islands, and that tho control of the scaUfur industry may thus be vested in a single mauagenumt. Incorpokation of an Alaska Commeucial Company in New York. Albany, New York, February 18, 1890. Tho Now York Commercial Company of Alaska (Limited), formed with a capital of 1,000,000 dollars, for carrying on mining, fishing, building, and commercial enterprises generally in the Territory of Alaska, filed a certificate of incorporation with the Secretary of Stat(! to-day. The incorporators of the Company are William B. Pope, Thnddeus D. Bradford, William T. Davis, and .John H. Droge, of New York; and Henry S. Tibbey, of Unga Island, Alaska. No. 302. The Marquis of Snlisburtj to Sir J. Pauncefote. ■I.-..:;- Sir, Foreign Office, March 8, 1890. I HAVE received your despatch of the 7th ultimo, reporting a conversation whicli you h;ii! held with Mr. Blaine on the subject of damages for the seizure of Canadian vessels by the United States' Revenue cutters in Behring's Sea. Your language on the occasion is approved. , ,',;;-. . . I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. •'^m'nimfm'W 416 •!--• , ;t .oJ fuMJ »!' -.! > No. 303,; ..h,^^. .j,|j ^f, ,<f^-,-^..:.?-.xfn».' ,-/!v^ ..; hniJ Colonial Office to Foreign Office, — {Received March 15.) Sir, . , Downing Stree*, March 11, 1890. [ AM. directed by Lord Knutstbrd to acknowledge the receipt of copies of (Icspatclics from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington respecting communications which have passed with the United States' Secretary of State as to the compensation for the seizure of British vessels in Behring's Sea.* I am to observe that tlie terms on wliich Mr. Blaine would propose to submit the question of compensation to arbitration, as stated in his Memorandum, taken togetlier with his further statejnent that no established principles of international law nould be brought into dispute, appear to indicate that he would abandon, before the arbitrator, not only the mare clausum doctrine, but also the claim of an exclusive right of fishery in Behring's Sea, and would rely on the contention that the United States arc charged with the duty of repressing acts done in that sea, contra bonos mores, to the injury of a fishery open to all nations. Lord Knutsford cannot doubt that an impartial arbitrator, whether all the three issues or only one of them be placed before him, would confirm the opinion that the owners are entitled to compensation for the ill-treatment to which they have been subjected. Lord Knutsford, however, desires me to observe that the cjuestion whether recourse should be had to arbitration on this subject, and the precise issues to be submitted to an arbitrator, are matters on which it is important to ascertain the views of the Government of Canada. ., •., .. ■ •< \ . I am, &c. (Signed) JO.^N BRAMSTON. No. 304. ' ' , , ' .' The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote.- -(Substance telegraphed.) •••'JJ'j Sir, Foreign Office, March 16, 1890. HER Majesty's Government have had under their consideration your despatches of the 7th and 11th ultimo, reporting the substance of conversations you had had with Mr. Blaine on the question of the claims for damages on account of seizures of British vessels by American cruizers in Behring's Sea, and on his proposal to refer the question of the liability of the United States' Government to the decision of some eminent jurisconsult. I transmit, for your information and guidance, a copy of a letter from the Colonial Office, containing Lord Knutsford's observations on your Reports above referred to.f I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. ;',' , Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received March 17.) /, , '. ., My Lord, .... • .-.::,i IVushington, karch I, ISW. I HAVE the honour to report that the Honourable Charles H. Tuppcr, tho Dominion Minister of Marine and Kisiierics, arrived here on the 25th ultimo, and on tlie :'Ttl> wiiH presented l)y me to the Secretary of State. He was this day presented by Mr. lilaine to the President. On the occasion of our visit to the Secretary of Stale we hod some infornuil conversation with him as to the procedure to be followed in the tripartite negotiation. Mr. Blaine apparently considere.! that \vc siiould commence at once to discuss the limits of the proposed close season as regards its area and duration. I pointed out, however, that I deemed it essential, in the first place, to examine the evidence on which the United States' Uovemmeut base tlieir contention .as to necessity for a close season. Mr. Blaine objected that such an inquiry would cause a delay of several months, and • Noi. 280 «nd 300. ' • '^. t No. 3P:'. 418 that it was iinncccsaary, as the case f"' a cIohc season had been t'Htablislietl hy the evidence of ninnerous United States' otruriius and exports, and tlmt the result oi' tlicir rescarciics and practical cxpcrionco during the last twenty years imd already hccn published to the world. I replied that their evidence bad been contested, and that, in m^ opinion, it wan of the highest importance that a conclusion on the point should, if poss'.ble, be arrived at in the course of the present negotiation, for the satisfaction not onl' of my (iovcriniicnt, but of all the other Governments who, if an arrangement should bo concludod, will be invited to accede to it. I urged that no delay would bo occasioned, as I could not sec any reason why «p should not proceed provisionally and concurrently with the other qucHtioiis involved, sudi as the area and duration of the close season, the consideration of which would he materially assisted by the inquiry I proposed. After some furtiier discussion, in which Mr. Tuppcr took part, Mr. Blaine nj^rced to furnish extracts from the evidence already published by his (Jovornment, on whicli they relied as establishing the cose for a close season, and it was arranged that the first meeting of the negotiators should take place at the State Department on Monday, the 3rd instant, at 11 o'clock. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 306. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salinbury. — {Received Aliirch 17.) My Lord, IVanhinyton, March 4, 18!)0. WI'Tir reference to my despatch of the 20th December, I have tht honour to inclose an extract from the " Wa-hington Post," in which "t is stated that the North American Commercial Comi)any of New York and San Francisco have been ,':;riiiiti'(l n lease for taking fur seals upon the Islands uf St. Paul and St. George, Alaska, fur a period of twenty years from the Ist May next. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTK. Inclosurc in No. 306. Extract from the " Washington Post" of March 1, 1890. Alaska Fisdekiks Lfase. — Secretary Windom has directed a lease to be made with the North American Commercial Company of New York ond San Franinsco, I. Liches, President, for the exclusive privilege of taking fur seals upon the Isliiiuls ot St. Paul and St. George, Alaska, for a period of twenty years from the 1st May next. The following are the names of the Directors of the North American Commercial Company: Lloyd Trevis, Henry Cowell, Mathias Meyer, and Isnac Liebes, all of San Francisco, and Albert Miller, of Oakland, California. Mr. David 0. Mills, of New York, is a Director of the Company. Its capital stock is 2,000,000 dollars. The annual revenue to the Government under this lease on the basis of 100,000 seals per annum will be about 1,000,000 dollars, as against about ,'500,000 dollars under the present lease to the Alaska Commercial Company. No, 3or. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received March 17.) My Lord, Washing! on, March 7, 1890. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your Lordship's dcspatcli of the 12th ultimo, in which you re(|ue9t me to bear in mind that all proposals from the United States' Government for the settlement of the Behring's Sea should be received by ine ad referendum, and I beg to state that I shall strictly adhere to your Lordship's instructions. ■ ' '^s:; I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. PMMPP 417 lere to your No. 308. Sir ./. Paunccfote to Ibr Mnrquis of Snlisbur;/. — {Recpived by Irkgrnph, March 18.) (Bxtrnct.) WoHhhujloit, Miinlt 18, 1800, AVITH reference to my (leH])atch ol" llic Ist inslunt, I Imve the honour to report tha' tlic Ik'hring'H Sea ncfj;o(ialioiiH liav«i c'»nic to n dendlock, owluix to a eonilict of cvidoroc in rcRiird to the neceRsity for a elo.sc season for flic fur-Hcal lishery. Mr, ninine and M.ile Struvo l)otli n^roe that the iiroHervation of tlio fiir-Hcal Hpccien is the sole ohjcct in view; but they insist, at the same time, that it will necessitate the total exclusion of sealing vessels from Helirin.i's Sea dnrinf? the dose season. Mr Tapper, on the other hand, maintaiim that no close Bcason is necessary at all; Iiiit I believe the Canadian Government are ready to give way to some extent on this point. Mr. Bliiine says that the arguments on his proposal are exhausted, and has called upon ine lo put forward a roiinter-proposal. 1 liave accordingly prepared a draft Convention, which, 1 venture to state, oilers the only prospect of a possihh? arranjufcinent. Mr. Topper lelt for Ottawa last night, taking with him a copy of it, which he will submit tor tiie consideration of the Canadian v'Jovernnicnt. I will i.ot fail to telegraph the rcplv of the Canadian Oovernnicnt to my proposal, and siiall then await further instructions from your Lordship. In the mcai;wliilc, negotiations are suspended. No. 309. The MiirijHU of Snllshury to Sir ./. Puuncrfote, Sir, Fnrrign Office, March IP, 1890 HKR iMajosty's (Jovcrpnient approve your proceedings in connection with the negotiations for tin.' estahlisbnient of a close season in the Uohring's Hea seal fishing, as rpportoil in your de.spatcli of the 1st instant. I am, &c. (Signed) S.VLISBURY. No. ••no. VolonidI Office to Forciyn Office, — [Received March 20.) Sir, Downiiuj Street, March 19, 1800. WITH reference to previous correspondence, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to yo'i, lor the informal ion of the Manpiis of Salisbi'ry, a copy of a despatch from the (Jover'-M-Ceneral of Canii'bi, I'orwarding a Sci>cdule of the claims for com- pensation for dauiages resulting from the seizure of Briti.sh vessels in Hehnng's .Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BUAMSTON. 1 indnsuro 1 in No. -310. Lord Slanlei) of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My jjord, Uovernment House, Ottawa, February 3, 1890. 1 HAD the honour lo send lo your Lordship to-day the following telegraphic message in code : — "One additional claim lor conijiensation '.Minnie' 10,400 dollars. Summary of claims by post. Have sent copy, for his information, to Minister at Washington." I have now tlie honour to transmit a copy of a I'rivy Council Order on which mv telegram was based. A copy of this Minute hat been forwarded to Her Majesty's Minister ot Washmgton, for his informatitm. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. ill i [128J 8 H I 41'^ Inclosure 2 in No. 'MO. Report of a Coiiiiiiilhi'^ of the llonotiruhle the Privy Council, approved J)H his Exeellencij the Governor- (ieiieial in L'oKneil on the '•^rd Feiiruory, 18!)(). THI'j Committee of tiie Privy Coimcil have liad l)et'oic them the eiiblcf^ram from the Right Uonourahle the Secretary of State tor tlie Colonies, dated the .10th January, 1890, of whioli the suhstunee is as lolh)«s : — "Are tliere any further ehiims for ei/mpensation for Behriug'H Sea seizures, niid can you state tlieir amount?" The Minister of ^Inrine and iMslieries, to whom the eahle^ram was referred, observes tliat my desijatch of tlie (>th danuary inclosed a copy of an Order in Council of the 28th lieceniher, 1SS<), in reference to the comijcnsation claimed by the owners of the "Kate," and tiint. a <'laim on holuilf of the owners of the "Miniiie" has, since tlic dnte of the despatch alluded lo, hi'en formally made and forwarded to the l{i<j;lit ilonourahh' the Secretary of State lor the Colonies. 'I'he MinistiT fuitJicr. in order that no chiim rcliifinu; to the seizures in lU'lirinn's Sea nuiy e-cape the attent'u)n of Her l\l!ije>ty's (.overnnient. recommends tliiU the appended re])ly to the above message he forwarded by your Kxeellency to the Ivif^hl Hoimurable the Secretary of Stale for the Colonics, for the information of Her Majesty's Government. The Committee advise that your ilxcellency be moved to cable the reply as herewith submitted. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Cl"rk, Privy Couuvii. Appendix. Proposed Rvplij from his Esrellenei/ the Clovernor-Generdl to the Uiijht I lonniiralilr liir Seeretiini of Stdte for the Colonies. foUowuij'' claims have reuehed my Government, and have been dul} TriE forwarded : ISSll. 188t). lf?80. 18SC). 1887. 1887. 1887. 1887. 1887. 1887. 188!». 1889. 1889. 1889. 1889. 1889. 1889. 1889. r>,Ot»0 dollar." Comleiia," -tOJ.SSt dollars ; and personal claims, , Onward," Till, 181 iloliars ; personal claims, (),,")(I0 dollars. Thornton," 4;},y7(> dollars ; personal claims, 0,500 dollars. i.i....„_:t., >• I- i\i\,\ ,i.,n ■ Favorite," 7,000 dollars -■ Anna Hock," 4^,704 dollars personal claims, ,'^,000 dollar.' Sayward," 42,481 dollars; personal olaim.s, ;5,0()0 dollars. Dolphin," "i9.950 dollars ; personal claims, ."l.lCio dollars. (iraee," 07.901 dollars; personal claims, 2,000 dollars. •Ada," 34,518 dollars; persoiuil claims, 2,000 dollars. • Alfred Adams," 20,433 dollars. ' Whek Diamond," 17,185 dollars. ' Pathfinder," 2(5,705 dollars. 'Juanita," 14,095 dollars. ' Lily," 17,107 dollars. 'Triumph," 19,071 dollars. ' Ariel," 9,498 dollars. 'Kate," 11,210 dollars. ' Minnie," 10,400 dollars. No. 311. Foreign Ojfice to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreicpi Office, MarrJ, 20, 1890. WITH reference to my letter of the loth instant, 1 am directed by the Marquis oi Salislbury tp transniit herewith, for ilie information of Secretary Lord Kimtsford, a copy of a telegram from Sir J. Pauncefote,* reporting on the present state of the negotiations on the liciliring's Sea question. T am at t'lie same time to say that, before taking any further action in regard to this telegram. Lord Salisbury proposes t\> wait for information from Sir J. Pauncefote as to whether the Canadian i_loveiiiinent are disposed to take a favourable view of the • No. ao8. m Convention which lie lins drafted for fhc pro^ecfion of the fur Hen|s resorting to l^clirin.2;'s Sea." ( nni. &e. (Signed) P. CTT1?^I|;. No, ni2. SiV .7. Pinnirrf'ntp In llifi Mnn/uix of Sitl!sliur!/. — (l?i-ri-!rril hy trli-(/nipli, March Slfi.) My Ii"i'l. ^ WiiMnijton, March 20, 1890. r ll.W'I'i tli»> iioiKiur to report that .some <if to-days ue\vspa])er.s annonncc the piililicalion of tlio Proclamation relatinjj to tlie seal lislierv in Helnin;;'s Sea, uhich tlie I'ri'sident ot tlie Uniled States is bound by law to issue "iit a timely seasloii'in each year. Mr. niaiiie toKl me a few days agfo that it was ready for publication. I have, &e. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFQTE. ' '■ ' I on ti to pr No. 313. Sir J. Pouncefotc to Ike Marifuis of Salisbury. — {Receired March 31.) My Lord, IVasliington, March 21, 1890. IN continiiation of my despatch of the 1st instant relatiiijj ^o the Bchring's'feea (islieries. I have the honour to report Ibat tlie iiist formal meetinj;' of tjie Conference tietween the Secretary of State, ^I. de Siruve (the ]{ns>ian Alini.ster), and myself took place on the "trd instant, and that Mr. 'I'upper, ithe Canadian Minister of Marine a'nil Fisheries, was present on the occasion. A lon<; discussion took place on the subject of n close season. Mr. |ilaine and .M. (le Struve contended that not only was a eU)se season indi'snen.satde for the preserva- tion of liie fur-seal species, l)nt that no close season would be etfectual for securing- the objei't in view unless during the period of its duration all stialing vessels of wlmtcvet' halioiialily were absolutely exehided from tile ]?ehrii;g's Sea. The Ixussian iMinister state(l that since the date of our preliminary meeting of the 22nd ultimo (reported by me to your Lordshij) on the same day), at which a line ol' Je'.niucation for a clo>ie season had been informally proposed by ^ir. Blaino and himseli*, he hiul received in.structions from his Covernmeiit to i)ress that the'Iine should commence he west from a point at the southern e.Ktremity of tlic fslilhd of Sag^ialicn, in ordel' mteet the rookery or breeding place on Hobin Reel in the Sea of ' Obhotsk'.' ' * ' "' On the other hand. Mr. ISliiine seemed disposed to agree that on the oast the line should terminate at the ICtOtli meridian of longitude west fnmi (Jreenwich, as originally proposed liy the United States' (iovernmcnt. .Mr. Tapper, who was then invited to express his views, strongly contended that a close season was not necessary for the preservation of the fur-seal species. All that was really retpiired ' for that purpose was to use greater vigilance for the protection of th6 rookeries against the destruction of seals on shore by marauding parties. Tins would be efl'cctually carried out by the United States' Government by the employment of additional eruizer.s, without necessitating the exclusion of all sealing vessels from the Iiehring"s Son for any period. A great deal of argument ensued on the evidence of particular witnesses and the reports ()f officials nnd experts, in the' course of which Mr. Hlaihe laid great stress on a pa^.sage in ihc Report of Mr. MowKtt, In.spector ot' Fishei-ics for British Columbiiii which is cited iu .Mr. I'.ayard's despatch to }Xr. Phelps of the 7th February, 188S. It ii^ to tjif ejleet that the enorniius catch of fur seal in liehring's Sea by .schooners from San Francisco and A'ictoria consisted principally of " cows" or female seals, and that, in view of the increase of vessels fitting out every year, there was reason to apprehend, in the opinion of the writer, that unless some measure of protection were adopted, the fur- seal fishery would soon be depleted. It was agreed to adjourn the meeting until we had examined a Memorandum of the evidence relied on by the I'nited States' Government which Mr. Blaine had promised to furnish, as reported in my despatch of the 1st instant. ' 'I'his Memorandum was delivered the same day, and Mr. Tupper immediatelr prepared a counter-Memorandum in support of his views. ^ < • . ,. r .-i^ liovh documents are in cour.se of printing, and copies will be transmitted to your Lordship as early as practicable." ' '" " ' '' ' ■■■nt !• '■■ [128] '■'■•■- •■• ''■■ 3 H 2 i i\ J: 420 Tlicy unfortunately present ho fjrcftt a (liverfjencc of opinion on nil the fncts rclatini' to tile iur-seiil fishery in the Hehrin^'s Sea, Ihiit Mr. IMiiine deciileil to invito M, dj Struve ami myself to nn interview on the IL'lli iiiMaiit, at whieii he ntateil that tlui perusal of Mr, Tniiper's Menioraiiduni hail convinced iiim of tiie liopelessnecs of ariivinf ttt a solution that would l)e satisfactory to Canada. He said lie had exiiaus'ted nil n,,, arguments in fiivmir of tiie proposal made hy the United States' (iovernmcnl two viiirs aijo, and he called on nie to make a counter-proposal on hehalf of Her Majust)', Government. 1 replied that 1 was reluctant to make a counter-proposal without previous rofcrtnco to your Lordship, but that I did not take so despondinjj a view of the situation as hf appeared to do. It littd been admitted and ajjireed that the sole object of the piopos; d arianifciiKiit was the preservation of the fur-seal species, and not the gain or henelit of any piirliciilnr Government or body of persons. I did not believe that Canada, in view of the contlictol evidence, w<ndd object to a reasonable close seascni, at all events by way of expLrinicnt, ami with a view to the further elucidation of the question. The ditTiculty was tu tix the limits of a close season both as to its area and ju duration. ISIr. Hayard in his despatch to Mr. White of the 1st May, I8i*8, had distinctly stated that only such a period is desired "ns may be requisite for the end in view." This equally applied to the question of area. It wouhl be strange therefore if no machinery could be devised to surmount tho difficulty. I then stated that 1 had prepared a scheme which provided such machinery, nini that 1 had actually put it in the form of a draft Convention which I proposed to refer to your Lordship, and, if ajiproved, to lay before the Conference as the counter-proposal ol Her Mnjesty's Government. r then explained the general provisions of the scheme. The draft Convention lays down in the first place that there shall be a close season, but tha* in view of the contlict of evidence which has arisen as to what should he iis area and duration, a Commission of experts shall be appointed to report on the iiiattei, and that if on the examination of their Report the three Governments should slill be unable to settle the comiilions of a close season, the points in difference slinll be referred to the arbitration of an impartial Government, whose award shall finally determine tlu' close season for the purposes of the Convention, The draft also provides for the immediate adoption and enfoicenient of a provisional close time as to which the High Contracting Parties would probably be disposed tube more yielding by reason of its temporary and cxi)erimental character, and in view of the prospect of an ultimate and imjiartial decision on the questions in dispute. The other Articles of the draft provide for the enforcement of the close season, tin,' trial of od'enders, tl.'e duration of the Convention, and the accession thereto of odier Powers. Mr. HIaine and M. de Struve declined to look at the draft or to exjiress any opinion on the scheme until it should be formally placed before them, but they listened to its details with evident interest, and I obscrvcil no indication of serious dissent or nnfavour- able criticism on their part. I am not without hope therefore that if its general features should meet with your Lordship's ajiproval, it may form a basis of arrangement, ami present an issue out of the ditticnltics of the situation. Mr. Tupper, who concurs generally in the draft, has returned to Ottawa to consult his Government thereon, and the next meeting of tho Conference is adjoianed pending the receipt of your Lordship's further instructions. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 314. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Saliubwiy. — {Received March 31.) My Lord, IVashinyton, March 21, 1890. I HAVE the honour to inclose a cutting from the New York " Tribune " of the I9th instant, containing an article on the Alaska Sea fisheries, headed "liights in Behring's Sea." I have been unable to discover that any American jurist has ever ventured to assert vnat the United States can claim any special jurisdiction over Behring's Sea, or an.r 431 nrranj,'cnieiit surmount the excIuHivo riglit (»t' fishery therein, or to support I lie extraordinary argument that the corioHlii"'"''' i'"*^ lietAeen the Kussiaii anil United States' UoveriunentH in lH'2t\ had \n, refcreiice to Hclirinj:"H Sea. On tlie oilier hand, the falhicy of tiie viewH put forward in the •' New York Trihune " has iK'on demonstruied, as your Lordship is aware, liy two eminent American writers, Professor Kayner, in his letters to tlie " New York Kvenin;;- Post" of the 'J7th June mill iStii ()etol»er, l8Hi), and Professor An^ivl, in liis article in the "Forum" of Novemhcv 1 i*8'J. I liave, &c. (Signed) JULIAN I'AUNCKFOTE. No. 316. Tfir MdrtjHis nf Sallshiiiii to Sir ■/, Pnuncefole. (Tclejrniphie.) Forciijn OJice, .Ipril », \8SH). TIIK principle of the draft Convention has my lull approval. No. .'no. Colonial Office to Forciiju Office . — (Reccivcil April ij.) Sir, Dnwnimj Street, April 9, 1890. IN reply to your letter of the 2()tli ultimo, forwardinjf copy of a tcloffram from Her Miije'sty's .Minister at Washinj^ton, on the present slate ol the ne][;'otiati(ms on the Helirinn's Sea (luestion, I am directed !iy Lord Knntsford to accpiaint you, for the information of the Manpiis of Salishury, tiuit he concurs in his Lordship's proposal to await informatiiMi as to tlie views of the Canadian Oovernnieiit on the subject of the Convention whicli Sir J. I'nuncefotc has suauested hefore taking;' any action in the matter. 1 am, &c. (Signed) \i. H. MEAUE. No. 317. Sir J. Pnuncefote to the. Marquia of Salisburii. — {Received April 10.) My Lord, Wasliinyton, March 31, 1890. 1 HAVE the honour to inclose herewith a newspaper extract relative to the detention of the British sealing-vessci " Pathfinder " at Portland, Oregon. She was seized last year in IJchring's Sea, and ordered to Sitka in charge of one seaninn. She escaped to Victoria, and has been engaged in .scaling till com[)elled to go into Portland l^ay for repairs, wliere she was detained till released by instructions from tljo Secretary of the Treasury dated the 29th instant, on tiie ground that the Federal Courts of Alaska have exclusive jurisdiction over all violations of the Seal Fishery Laws. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 317. Extract from the "New York Trihune," of March 30, 1890. Portland, Oreyon, March 29, 1 890. THE British sealing schooner " Pathfinder,'' Captain Arthur Morgan, of Victoria, was towed into port last night by the United States' Revenue cutter "Corwin." The schooner was found at Neagh Bay, Washington, with rudder disabled, and taken into custody by the cutter. The " Pathfinder" is not seized, but detained pending instructions from the Department at Washington. 'I'lie schooner is <me of the sealing-vcssels seized last year in Behring's Sea by tlie cutter "Kiciianl Hush," and ordered lo Sitka, Alaska, in charge of one seaman as a prizemaster. Slu' escaped to Victoria, and has since been engaged in sealing off the American and British coasts till yesterday, when compelled to go into the bay for repairs. Captain Hooper, of the ''Corwin," holds the vessel pending the decision of the Departmeut relative to whether the vessel is amenable to the Law regarding sealing in Behring's Sea, for which she was seized. \ .' ' ill In j»f Hi } J IH H- ' HHii I^^Bfj ^^^^^HR ^■1- 1 ^HhI 49.0 'Pio " Pathfinder" sailcil from Vicloria two mont|iH ago; she Hccuroi^ tflO Reals oi the coast ot Vancouver uiii( Wnsli;iiL;(oii. l'*nrtii'iilnrM of tiic (Iclciitiou liavi- Ih'cii smi lo tlio Secretary of the Treanury ai Wnsliin^toii, ajso to tliu OepiliinMil at ^)ll lua, < uuada. IVnsfuiiijInn, Mitirli L'!t, ]H%, Tlie folldwinm tcIcfrriH" ""'^ «•'•>♦ '>y Assistant Secretary 'riclienor tluH (iftcriioori to the (lollcclor of ('ustdiiiM at I'or; Towiiseiid, Wasliiii^tou : — '• In the vear IHH7 the Deimrlmeiit. in n <mh(' (|iiile Hiniilnv, l)ut in some vcHprcts Htronf^cr for tlie Oovcrumcul, deeideil lliat (lie vi-sscl could imt lie iicji. In virw of that prec'edi'iil, witlioul now reviewinu' (he' principles upon wliieli it proceeded, 1 direct IIr. icleaso of (lie • I'iithtiuder." " The precedent rererrcd lo in ili'' ii'kivo tele;;Tiim was the case of the schooner " Klleii." Thiit vessel was -cized in H"iiriiio-'s Si'a in x->7, hy ."aiitnin Siiepard. oftli,. Uevemie .Mariiii' Service, for violnlion of tlu" : enl l''ishcry I .aws, and was ordered to Siika, Alaska, for trial. Instead. Iiowever, her captain took lier to San KranciHco. JSiitMvas tliere seized hy the ('imto:i;s olliccr.-, hut was suhsecpieutly released hy direction of Secretary Faireliihl, on tiu' f,'round that Ihr Federal olUcers at San irancisco liml ny jurisdiction over otlenc<'s cominitled iir the Distriel nf Alaska. Under this ruliii;,' tii^ Federal <M)urts of Alaska will have exclumve jurisdiction over all viohitions o\' lliu Seal li'iaiiery Jjaws. No. ;hh. Cnloiiliil Ofli'rr In Fnrriiv Oflicr. — (Hi-crircd April 18.) ir. l^oiniliKi l^lifi'l, Aiiril I t, iSilO. I \M directed hy lord Kmitsford lo transndt to you, for the infminat'ou o! the i\|nr(|ui!i of f5i<lis!iury, copies nf ich'i;iaplii(! con'espi.idence witii the (iovcrnor-Oeiicnil (,i tiauada res[)oetin,i;- the proposed ("ouvenlioii tor Ihc^ esialiiistmient of a close liim (ot seals in I5ei;rin^'s Sea. I am, Ike. (Signe.l) JOHN I'.UA.MSTON. Inclosure I in "'o, r"8. Lord ^iiiitsford to Lord l^ltinleii of Invest' m. ('rdeivraphic.l Dnwniiuj Slrct'l, April 11, 1890, '4'ICIiljiJUAlUl whether, as \ hope, your Governniout has agreed to Minister et Waslnn;;lon's proptHed l|<>hrins's Sea Convention. . ■ •' Inclosure 2 in No. -'US. TiOrd Xlanleii of Prrxton to Lord Kmits/nrd. ('relenraphic.1 (Roceivrd April 12, ISilO.) JltNIS'lMilR OF JIAIUNI'J has returned to Washington with our alternative proposal. \, e nie(piite ready to acquiesce in ;;enei'al principle of protecting seal life, hut are most anxious that ii; luiry hy experts nuiy jireciile permanent Treaty, as we hehevo the facts to 111' incorrect on which United States' pioiiosals arc hased. We suggest modus virendi for not more than Iwo years, during wiiich experts should determine the facts on which ])ermanent Treaty can lie hased. Cannot answer your (piesiion till we hear, which wo expect to do soon, from Washington. No disjiosition iicre to raise unnecessary ditficulties, but if we get no better terms than those proposed hy United States, seal fishery will be seriously affected. No. 319. Colonial Offirc to Foreign Office, — (Received April 19.) Sir, Downing Street, April 19, 1890. I AA! directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, for the information of the Marquis of Sniisbmy, a copy ot a telegram from the Governor-General of Canad*, rfhorliti'; thnt liis (^lovi'rnmcnt acc('|)t with Hmiic iiiodificfttions Sir J. Pauncet'o'tos Hc'coml jfjft ConVi'mloii lor c'stiiMiHJiii'i'^ a flo.se sci^oii tor fur x'lijs in pijlirin;^'s Sea. liord Kniitsl'ord will Ik; liliid to linvo a co])y of tin; m-imu'iiI (iriitl, with the inod'ficB- lions siwgcstcd by the Domiiiioii rtovcrniniiiit. il it 1i;ih hix-n telo;{raplie'! liy Sir J. Paunccfotc. 1 am, &e. (Higiicd) JOHN UKAMbTON. w ■A 1 5 ! Inclosuro in No. Mil). Lord ISInnli'ii of Pritslon to Lord Knutxford. (TeleKTiiiiliic.) _ April 18, IbOO. Tlik I'riine Minister told mo tliis at'lornooii thnt his (,'abinet will accept Sir J. paiiiioelotcH second drail witii sonic niodiliciition.s, wtuch. in my opinion, do not i'ljuro il. I liavc tcicf;rai)hed to toll him ho. I \w\w ;;riivo dilliciilly is now over .so I'ur u» Ciinada ,8 concerned. 16 the tacts No. :VM). Sir J. Pauncefoic to the Manjuis of Halishury. — {Received April 2i.) (Extract.) Washinnion, April 11, 181/0. I IIAV'K tlie hononr to report that tiie ilono^raidr; Mr. Tupppr, the Dominion Jiini^tcr oi Marine and Fislieries, called on me yesterday on his return from Otta\ya. lie informed me thnt the Canailian Government ohjecled to my ])ropo.sed draft of a Convciuion for the Ncttlement of tiie Hohiiny's Sra question in so far as it admitted the ncne^sity of a clo-c season, and |irovided. iiltlionirh ; ovi^ionally. for the exclusion of sealers within u certain radius round the hrcediiii; i lands. I iindiistainl tliat thti ])iincipal ohjection of the Cnnadiaii Government to the iadilih clause is I hat it winild )iraciically have the eiiect of an admission that it was necessary Fnr till' prcs(;rvation of the fur-seal specie-, ; and they maintain the position that no interference with pclajiic seaiinji' is nece.jsary for tl'.e purpose in view. 1 am an.xioiis that the ])r()posal of Her .Uajes'^^y's (iovernment slioidd he practical iind 'ilieral, and sncii as will commend itself t • ilie sense of justice And iii.Jjiirtiiility \')\"a\l other nali(in>. On the other hand. 1 need hardly say how anxious 1 aui to ^iv'e.t^c utmost eil'cct to I he views and wisiies of the dominion (iiAurnii!<'nt i;! this nugotialion. I have therefore prejiared a new draft Convention, of ^vliicli l inclose copy, and in which 1 have followed, as closely as is consi.sient with the views aijovo expressed, the lincB indicated by the Canadian Government. I am sendinj? a copy of the new dralt this day to L<;id Stanley, together with a copy of this despatch. In the meanwhile, [ should be j^rateful if your Lordsiiip winild inform me by tcjlegrjim whether you concur in the views I have expressed and approve of the new draft which I have prepared, or whether yon di;sire that I should adopt the tirst draft a> amciuled hy the IJoininioii Government, as the counter-proposal of Her .Majesty's Government. [For draft Conventio.. as proposed to United States' (iovernment, see Inclosure 2 in No. 32(i.] No. .321. air ,/. Piiunci'futf !u lite Muiquis of •■iuliKijiiri/. — {Received A'pril "J.").') MjLord, Washinyton, April 15, lSi)0. WITH reference to my despatch of Mie ^Ist ultimo, I have tl|e lippour to hiclose herevyith copies of the correspondence r,elatJn^' to the l^ur-seal . ^slaerias . an Bekring's Sea, wiiich I iiave just received from Mr. lllaine, and >vhich consists of tilt f 124 evidence furniflhed by exports and ofHccrs o: the United States, and the counter-evidence furnished in reply thereto by Mr. 'I'uppor. on he question of the extoiininailon of the fur-seal specfes by the killing of seals in the operi sea. I have, &?, (Signed) .laLTAN PAUNCEFOTR, Inclosure iu No- 321. Correspondence rclnting to Fur-Seal Fisherie.1 in Behriiu/'s Sen. Mr. Blnine to Sir J. Pauncefote, My dear Sir Julian, Department of Slate, Wasfiint/ton, March 1, 1890. I HA Vl'j extracted from ofTicial documents and appended hereto a largo mass of evidence, given under oath by professional experts and officers of the United States, touching tlio subject upoi' wliich you desired fiu'ther proof, namely, that the killini; of seals in tin- open sea tends certainly and rapidly to the extermination of the species, [f further evidence is desired, it can be readily furnished. I have, &c. (Signed) JAMES G. BLAINE. From the official ileport made to the House of Tlepresentatives in "'880: — in I'oiTJuv yt'iirs I'liv-soals wcvc (buml in grciU tuiuiliers mi viirioiis islands <it' tho South I'adtii (Icenii, l>ut iiltt'v II (.'oni|mriitivi.'ly slmrt jierioil of imiisi'viiiiiiiato sliuij,'ht«v tlic vnokones wi'io ihiscrttd, the aniniiils hiiving lici'ii killed or drivon I'nmi tlicii' lifinnts ; so that now the only I'xistini; ninkmc.' an- tlio.su ill Alaska, a'.olhcr in the? lUissiaii part of l)eliriii!,''.s Sea. and a lliiiil on Lobos Island, at the raoiitli of the Jtiver I'lale in South Anieriea. All these rookei^v are under the ]mitc'ctioii of their several (ioverunients The liest I'stiniale as to the nimilier of these animals on the Alaska roo.Lcrie.-- places it al aliout 4,()0(l,()0(l ; hut a marked diniinution of tlie nundiers is noiieed within the 'ast two or three years, which is attrilin'.e.d l>y the testimony to the fad that iiiiauthiiri/ed jiersoiis .hiring the saiiiiiiers of lS8(i, 1S.S7, an.l l.S8,S had litted out expeditions and cruizeil in Ala^ikaii waters, and l|v the ii-c .■' Mre-arnis deslroyed liuiidreds of tliousands of these animals Mithoul regard lo aj^e or sex. The law prohibits the killiiif; of fur-seal.s in the Territory of Alaska or the water.s Ihereel, cvitii, hy 'he les.^i f the Seal Islands, and the lessee is jiermitted to kill duiini; the months of .huio, .Tuly, Sepiember, and October only , and is t'orbidden to kill any seal less than I year old, or any female scj, "or to kill such seals at any time by the use of lire-arms, or by other means tending to drive the sd* away from tho.se islands." (Uevised Stat".tus, section I'JCtl.) Governor Simpson, of the Hudson Bay Company, in his " Overland .lourney Dound the WndJ," 1841-42, p. i;?0, says :- •' Somi' twenty or tliirly jear» a|(a there wns n in(vst vimlelul ilmtnietion of i!io tciil, ulieii younn niiil old, mnli' anJ ffmnlt, %m indiscriiiiiiiiilcly ku.icki-d in rlio lii'ml. Ttiis iiniirtKieiice, iih nny one inighl linvi' p.!|U!Ct('(l, |ir(ivi'd di triinfntiil ill two w.iys. ll.pract WHS almost fMirjiiUecl, und llii' market win iilutli'd lo sucli u di'grir, iil t!ie riilo lor some tinii' of iOO.OOO skins u-yi'ar, Ihiil III.' |iriett dill not i'\on pay lli>' expcnsea of Mrri.ii:!'. Tlie Itiissiiins, Imwi'vi-r, iiiive now ado|iti'd nearly llie .■^ame plim whicli llii' IliicUun Bi; Coin|inny |mmsui's mi re. ruiting nnv ui its c.\li,ii:sted di^tri>■t.<. killiiif; only a limited number of Micli nudes ns lime ii'tained llirir full growth, a plan peculiarly applicalue to the I'ur-jeal. iims'.meh as its linhits render a system of husbandini; the stork as eniy jnil ecrtatn its that uf dentruying it." In the year 1800 tla rookeries of tlie (ieorojan J.slaniis produced ]lli,(MlO fur-seals. Knim L'si'li lo 1S23, .says the. " Kiiry>diipa^dia J^rilaimica," "the (ieorgiaii [--hiiids proiiiiced 1,200,(1(10 seals, and tin- Island of Jiesolation has been iMjUally jiroductivc.'' Over !,0I10,000 were taken from (he Jslaiul ef Mas-ii-Fiiera and slopped to China in ITit^-itt*. (Kanning's 'Voyages I , the .South Sea," p. L'il'.l.} In JS20 and 1821 over liOil.i (10 fur-seals were takeii at thu youth Shetland Islands, and (JiipUim Weddell slates that at the end of tin- seeond yf?ar (he s]ieeies had there become almost cxterniiniiU'!. In addition to the iiuiuliia' killetl for their fiirs.'he csiimads that "not less than 100,000 newly-lNini .wjung died in conseipieiu'e ol the destruction of tiieir mothers." iSee Klliott's Keport, JK84, \\ I IS.) In 1880 the se.iijily •<( fur-seals in the South Seas had ,so greatly dei'reascd that the vessels v\\'^^n\ ill this enteriirise ■generally made losing voyages, from the Jaci that those jilaccs which were the ivsort of seals lind liei'ii abandoned by them." (Kaiining's " \'oyage:!," ;.. 4.'<7.) AtAiiupodex Islaiul, olf the coast of New South Wales, 400,000 skins were obtained in lllL■v«l^ 1814 anil 18io. Referring to these facts, froicssor Elliott, of the .Smitlhsoiiian Institution, in his able h'eiion oi. the Seal Islands, published by the Interior Deiartment in 188-;, says :— " Thiii gives a very fair idea of the mn'in. r in whieh tlie linsine.si wa.s eondneted in the South Paeifie. Mow lone vtnuld otr ■ealinf; inlerehts m IlehrinK'i Sea withstand llie atiaekt irf sixty vesseU earrjin^ from twenty to thirtv men eneh .' Noliitertm reasons. The fact ihdt these great southern roiikiTii.s niil|..i.,oil and paid for ultaeks of this extensive eharaeter during a pfrindoi more than twenty yearn ipeaks eleq-iently of the millions upon millions that must have existed in the waters now almost deserted k> them.' m lul the W.iikl, 425 Mr. i!- If- *^'l"M"-''i "f ^""' '-"'kIi'Ii. Ciiiiuucticut, wlio^c vf.ssuls liiiil visilcil all llio rookniiiis of Iho Kiuth I'liBit'i'i ill Ills written :<tiiti'iiii'iit hcfoni tiie (!niiiinitt(M' oi (.'uinim'n'i! of tlic IIoiisk^ of Rfprcsentiitivt'S, sniil : — 'As lihnwiiifr tlie |»n>xrP!>n "f llii« trade in fiir-frtil ).kins, iind thf iiiiii4<'s n(' its prd.si'i utiur 'uUinK iii ulniost total tiniitliilittiofi I /.{,,. MiinKilfl in iioino Inciilitir.H, it in stated ou f^'uod iiii'lnirity that, tVinn ubiMit 1770 t,o ,,():), KttrgueliMi Laud, in tlii! Indian I nnan vit'lilod (o tlie lingliyli traders over 1,(10(1.000 HltiiiH ; but tjprii I'uinpntition :-*i!|it idl' tliu Iterdn that reported tlitfri', and since (Ii£ latter Tfur liordly loo per unnmn t-imld he tibtuincd (in ail its liini; coa-st. AftiTcirds ,Mas-;i.I'iuTa Island, near .luin IVniundox, astiBitrd. and Ott.OOO a-ycar were oljtaiiird ; hut rs every one that dc?<ircd was free tii sn a:i<l kill, (lie usual ri"*iilt t'ollnwed — the ^, ^m. exteiniiimted •• that island, and also at ti.e (lala|pn;;u3 t'raup mar hy, I •' Ka1>(I'<" 1 c'"^ Shetland Islandi^, niitl Snulli Auieriean eoasts, near Cape llurn, vnmv t \t in order; liere the ^eal were very I [iiinilant. It i--^ stated that at the Shetlands alone lUO.OOd per annum ndfilit h;ive been or» i.in(;d and the riH)i{rrii-s preserved, i f taln'n 'Ciier proper restrietions ; l)ut in the enp'rness <d' men ihey killed old and youn^, niLle and female ; little pup)* a few dayn I 111 lieariviil o( ''.eir mothers, died by thousands on the iieaehes ; eareafises ami boto's strewed the shores, and this jiroduelive fishery I" ' ni)(,llv I v.wroyed. It is estimated (hat in the years 1S21 ami 1S22 no less than ^i^O.OOO of these animals >vere kitleil at the vln'ibnds iilene. .\n American eaptain, describing in after jears his .'ueeess there, says : ' We went the first year with one vessel and I". 1,200; tlie second year with two vissels, and obtained SO, 000; the third year with j-it ve>sels, petting otdy l,7(;0~all there i ni Wt-' •.\s(a.dl i'e,(kery is still preferred at the Lobos Islands, off the River La Plata; this, lit'ing carefully guarded under strict I _*u]aiJon9 hy the (Joverninent of 11u(>no8 Ayres and rentetl to proper parties, yields about .5,0110 skins per annum. As late as the I irar 1S54 a'sianll island, hardly a mih- ntrross, wna discovered by Americans in the Japan Sea, where obout 00,UUO seals . ^rted linnuallr. Trad'TS visited it, and in tlirei' years the cluh and knife had cleaned them all iitf. Not 100 a season can now be tound I llitrf." Jlonoiiialilc C. A. Williams, of Connecticut, who inherited tli(^ whaling and sealing I business tVom liis father and grandfather, spcakhig of the seal in the Sout'- Pacific, Lmvc the following testimony before the Congressional Commiltee : — The history of seiiliii^ gois biwk U\ about 1790, unil from thitt to the eiirly part of tliis (^eiitiiry. In tlio nai'lier perioil of vvliieh I speak there wore no seals known in the North I'acilit; Ocean. Il'lieir piirtioulur iinuiit was tlit^ South Atlantic. They were discovercil by Cook, in his voyages, on the I Island (if Desolation ; by Widdall, in his voyages to the South I'ole, on the Island of South Ucor},'iu [and Sandwichland ; and by later voya<,'er3, whose names escape niu, in the ishiuds of the ,S(jiith l'iit;ific [Ocean. When the number of seals on those islands were first brought to the notict; of Hritish I merchants, they pursued the hunting of those animals on the Island of Desolation. Tiie most authentic authority wo have about the matter is derived from reports made by these jvoyngers as to the number of seids taken from those places, and, although they arc not entirely Lccnrate, 1 think they are fully as uccurato as could Ix! expected, considering the lapse of time. On [ihc Island of Desolation it is estimated that l,i!00,000 fur-seals were taken ; from the Isliiiid of South lOeorgi.i ii like number were taken, and from the Island of Mas-(i-l'"uera jiroliably a greater number Imre tai«';i. As to the Sandwichland the statistics are not clear, but there can be no doubt that over 5110,000 seals wi^re taken from that locidity, and in 1820 the Islands of Soutii Shetland, soutli of Cape Join, were discovered ; aiul from these isiaiids 320,000 fur-seals were taken in two years. There wore jotlii'i' localities from which seals ,vere taken, but no others where they were found iu sucli largo I minibers. The cause of the extermination of seals in those localities was the indiscriminate chararter of the I sluuglitcr. Siimelimes as many as fifteen vessels would be hanging around these islands awaiting [opportunity to L'et tlioir catch, and every vessel wouhl bo governed by individual iiit("iests. They ItoiiW kill everything that caiiio in their way that fumi.shed a skin, whether a cow, a bull, or a middlo- [jirown seal, leaving tli(> young pu]is just born to die from neglect and starvation. It was like taking a [herd of cattle and killing idl the bulls and cows and leaving the calve.s. The e.\torii;iii;ition wa.s 3( I complete iu these localities that the tiaiio was exhausted, and voyages to thosi) ])laces voro abandoned Uliout IbTi), nearly fifty years aft(^r the di-scovery of the South Sh(;tlaud Ishmds, when the occupation [of Alaska l)y the cession of liussia to the Unitoil States of the Behring's Sea was brought tdiout TIic Chairman. — 1 want to interrupt you to ask a question bearing on that point. Were those [ rookeries in tlio South Seas ne\ei' under the ]irotectorate of any Government at all '( The ]\'ttiu.s.t. — Never ' was going to say that when the cession was made by Kti.ssia to the ! United States of this territory, aii'l the stdiject of the value of fur-seals, or tlu I'l'-isildo value, was I brouglit to mind, people who hiul been previously engaged in that busiiu^ss reviiitcd these .southern iWities after a lapse of nearly fifty years, and no souls were found on the Island of Desolation. [These isl.'ids liave been used as the breeding-idaee for sea-tdephants, and that eivatuio ijiinnot be [exterminated on that isliml, for t ho rea.son that certain beaches known as "'veather beache;; " are [tkre. The sea luwiks rudely upon these beaches, ami it is impossible to land upon them. Tliero are "(fs, something like ;iOO to COO feet, of shore iio, and the sea-elephant finds a sale resort on the.se [ksidies, and still ])reserves enough life to make the pursuit of that animal worib I'ullowing in a I small way. I ]i;ive vessels there, and have had, myself and father, for fifty or sixty year.-;, lint this is [iiicidcntid. Tin- Island of South Shetland," and the Island of Soutli (ieorgia, and the Island of [Sandwichland, and the Di(!gos, off Cape Horn, and one or two other nunor jioints were I'niiud to yield I more or less .seal. In this period of lil'ty year-i in tbe.se localities seal lil'e had niMijieratcd to such an latent thai there was taken fidiii lliein in the si.K ve.'irs from 1870 to ixTii or 11^77 jiorhaps MO,000 skin-s. Q. .After they had been abandoned for fifty yearn? — A. Yes; to-day they arr again (exhausted. [The last year's search of ves.sels in that region — I have the statistics hero of a vessel frimi Stouington [from the South. Shetland Islands, reported in 1888, and she |)roeured thirty-iiiiie skins as the total [ result of search on those islands and South Georgia. 'Ine of my own vessels procured sixty-one skins, incUuliu^ uleven pups, as the total residt of hor |:i I i 4r [128] 3 I v^yogo; and, I'scont uboiit ('iiiw Horn, tlieii" ore, in my opininn, no seals ntinainiiif;. 1 ilii iii;|, |||j,l that 100 seals coulil bu pvdinued from nil the loi.'nlitifs mcntioiicd liy a close soarcli. Any orir i,i t|||„ localitU's V liiivi' nanu'il, miller proper protection nnil veslrictions, iiii;jlil have iieen r''''P'''"!'lf'iliM« bleeding phie,.' i'oi seals, yiiJtling us irrcut a number jier aiumm as dn ilic islands hc;lon;;i;i;,r to ||„ ITmittHl States. Now, the trnile in thoso lo(uililies is entii-oly oxhauated, and it wmdd In- inipossihhi in a . , iitimi,, rowlock tlioye. islands, or brin^' them back to a j)oint where they wimld yield u re.isonalile. relu.n liirtU investment of eajiital in hiintinu: skins. Tiiat. in briel', compleles tlie history of Uui I'm' ^i;d in |V S6ntb Atlantic Dci-an. l>Hiiijrr I if the Krlcniiinnlum. of the Jlii.sht .linn/cn-ir.'i. We huve already nienlioned that the present, number of seals on S(. I'aid ;iiid SL. (Icdi'M' l^jim,,!, has MiaterJally diminislieJ iliirinj; the last two or three years. Thi^ teslimuny discloses tluUail, tlm Vwm: nnmher of lirilisli and Amerii'an ves.sels, laaiiiied by expert Indian seal-hiinlcrs, lia\c IVeiiiientiil PionriniJi's Sea and destroyed hundreds of thousands of fur-seals by slicioliii!; them in tln> \.;itir, mui scouring lu-i many of the carcases for their skins lus they ^^■ere aide In taki' uri liuurd. The tijsliinnnv.i tlui (tovcrnnient A>»enls shows that of the number of seals killed in the water not more llian mii.m sevi;n. on an avera;j;e, is .secured, for the reasoir that a wounded .cal will sink in the .sea: .mi tliiji f,,, every l,Ol)(i .sealskins secured in this manner then^ is a diminulion of seal life at thoso ro(iki:n(...sii( ji least. 7.0IIII. Added to this is the fact that the shootiii"; of a female, seal with yonn;.,' ciiiuscs iliddcatii of both. If tlu! ahootiu;; is before delivery, that, of eourio, is the eml of hoili ; if at'ler, the .5 .unig stjl dies for want of sustenance. lltnim; the season of IS.s."! the number of contraband sealskins placed on the market wu.-i n,., la.OOO; and in lS8t>, L'.j,l)(Wl ; in 1H87. ;i4,00i) ; and in [HHH the nnnihcr of illicit skins s.vnml ,,, Utltish cruizers was less than 2rp,(M)0, which nuudier woidd have. Imhmi largely incjva.swl liail v,ii{, [][,, seaKoii been very stormy and lioistenuis. American citizens n^sjKM'te.d the law and tlai inihlnm notice of the Sccretiiry <if the Tivasury. and made, no attempt to take .seals. Knim this it ap\ioai's that, durin.i; the last thn^e years, the munbin- of iMaitraband sealskin,'; jibhi oil the market aniouiiied to over '.ITtHIO, and wliicli, aeeordiiii» to the t(^stiniony, dest.royeil Mi>a,lv 751I.OO11 fur-seals, caiisin;^' a loss of revenue anioiinliiip: to ovor 2.000,tl0(l dollars, al the rate <.)' lux nnil rental paid by the le^^si'c et' the Seal Islands. ' ; ' 1: , ■ I/imilullou : the Lessee forbidden to kill nnij Frimili' Seal. Tlic Ibllowinj;' is aii extract, from the oflicial Report to Congress :~ '["he lessee is permitted to kill IdO.iKMI fur-seals (Ui .St. L'aiil ami St, tJcurge Isliinds, e.id im iiu*, and is |irohibiled from killiuji any female .seal or any seal less l.lian one year olil, and from killiiurauy fur-seal at any time except durin;.; the lanuths of .luiu', duly, isepicndicr, and Oclohcr, and ficni kiilii;; such seals by the u.se of lire-arms or other moans tendiuL; to drive tlu^ .seals frnm said isliind.s, ainiiinin 1 killing any seal in the water ad,iacenl to said island^^, or mi the beaches, ilill's. or rock.s wher ■ llwy Im,i1 | uji from tlu sea to ivtnain I'^urtlier cxtraet i'roni Iteport : — It is clear to viair Coiumillei', from the procif sulimitted, that to prohiliit scal-killin;_; eti ilieSo.il I Islands, and jicrmit. the killing in Uehring's Sea, would be no |MotoctiiMi ; hn- it is not on tl:;! idinils I where the destruction of seal life is threatened or seals are unlawfully killed, but it is in llinl iwrtotl ISchring's Si>a lying between the eastern and western limits of .Vlaska, as ilescribed in tlie Tralrofl Cession, I hnaigh which the seals pass and repa.ss in going to .and from their fcediiig-groaiub. ■^mcf ^ .'iO miles south-east of the rookeries, and in their annual mi.gratious to ami from the islands. Extract from ttcpiirt of L. X. Jiiiyiiit.sky, A^cnt of tlie Trca.sury in 1870,10 Honoiiriiltlo (ieo. .Ij. BoiitwcU, Secretary of the Treasury. It will li(> observml iliat tliis Report was iii.ado in 1870, Ijclore any dispute liad arisen Aviih the ("aiitidian scalers: When the herd has liccu iliiven a certain distance from the shore a halt is made, and a .■■(irtliig ii( I the game i\:- in age, sc.\, and conditi(Mi of the fur is ellected. This operati.in icipiircs the exeivisi'ota] life-long expiiieiice, and is of the outmost iniiiortaiice, as tlio killing of females, which iauowilyl mistaken for young males, even by the natives, wmild endanger the propagation of the .sjx'cii!.'.'. Tiic .same witness, when not an employe of the Ti'casury, g:av<* tcstiiuoiiy tiiil another point in 1889 : — \i. Wlure are, those seals born ! Where do tlii^ I'omale seals give birth to their young i' — A. Tliijl are burn on the ro<ikeries. Q. .\re they an animal or a (Isli, or wiial aic llicy : how do yon classify tln'iu ? — A. Tlicy ;uol bliKMled animals horn on I he land : Uiuy are not a lish. y. And b( rn on the I'liited States' territory, are they ! — A. Yes; all those born on the l.shaiil>.i(| of St. I'aul and St. (icorgc. (j. That is in United State's' territory ? — A. Yes, yir. "Fisheries" is a .misnomer all tlicviyj Uirough, Hiid alwavs was. icIk, iiiiil 111) luiitt, ][. A. (jliddcu, :iu A^out of tho 'I'roasui-y Depart iiKMit, was on th«,* I'j'ihylOT Islands ffom Muy 18H2 to Juno 1885. Iii dcscriliing before the Confrrossioiml Cflmmitt(!() tlic mode of killing seals by the lessee of tiie islands, the t'ollowing flcrurriNl :— ' ' 0, I)ii thuy kill any I'cmiiK's '—yl, 'I'lmy iKiVcr kill ri'iiiiiliix. 1 iln mil know nt Imt miu ur Ivio ,i,,nfes in my i;xiitiiii'ii(;<' wlicio ;i tumiili! siiiil wiis (!Vi:r (liivcn nut willi lim crowd. " »♦•«•» 0. Do you licliiiVf soul lilV cnii ln' piosurvtul witlmiil (loviMiitncnl |H(itc!Ctiou uvi'v Iheni ? — A. i ,\u nut. ■ f \V. It. Taylor, a Treasury Aij^ont, was asked the same ([uestion as to the killing of |oiii;ilc .':e:ils, and he said that "he had never known but one or two killed by the bw'C on the islands, and they by aecident." lie was f iir(li(>r asked as follows : — Q. Wlion tlicy kill tiid seals in (lie, waUir.s, nljnut wiml imci|i uliun ul' tlicni dn they ri'i'ovcr ( — A. T ij,, iKit liclicvii nioi'c tJian onc-l'imrtii oftJKini. Q. Tin! others sink f—A. Tlicy slidot, tliciii and llicy sink. Q. llavo yon ever noticed any wiinndod ones thai came ashniv ihiil, luive Ijoen shot f — A. Mo, !Sir ; [lilonol^ think I did. 'file same witness testified as follows : — (/. Yoii do not tliiiik, tlicii, that the value ol' the seal fisheiii's and ihe s(';d niokeries could bo I ]ir(w'ni:d uimIcv an ojien ]i(plir,y ? — .f. No, Sii' ; I do not. f thiid< it vdu open it they will be destroyed williiiat <iuestion. (j. I)(tyou think it necessary to |iiotecl lh(; seals in tla; sea and down in their feedinj^-niounds in ilic I'iii'ilic, if liossible, in order to iireserv(! their lull valne and the perpetuity of seal life V Do you 1 (Link they ouj^ht to lie proteeUid oveiywhere as well as on the inokeries ! — A. Yes, Sir; I think they joii'jlit to lie ]ivoteeted not alone on the rookeries, lint on the waters ol' the liehring'a Sea, 1 do not Iiliiiik it is necessary to i^o outside of the l>ehrin^''s .Sea, liecause thei'e is no cousideralile nnuiliin' of I llif 111. ^. Are they HO dispersed in the I'lieilie lliat they would not lie liable to destruction ^ — A. Yen, l.Sir; tliey arc scattered very nincli, and no hunters do nnieh hiintiiij; in the Pacific, as I understand. Aiiiitlier reason why they should he jirotceted in all the waters of the Hell ring's Sea is this: a larfjc t miiiiluT of .seals that are on the islands of couise eat a j^reat many fish ever)' twenty-lour hours, and fish have lie(^ome well awai<' of the fact that there are a ^ood many seal cm the Seal Islands, and [iJii'y .stay out a loiisjev distance from the islands, mid tiu^v do rot come near the shore. It becomes I ncce.s.siry lor the .seal themselves, the cows, to ^o a j,'ood distai ce into the sea in order to obtain food, [ami it is tluu'c where most of the dainaj^e is done by these vessels. They catch them while they fare out Q, So on the rookeries they j;o out daily for food :' — ..I. The cows j^o out (;very day for food. The juiUiH (111 nut ;.;o ; they stay on the island all snnimer. The cows '40 HI and i'> miles, and even further, jliliniiit Know the avera,L;c of it, and they are. ,1,'oiiii.; inid coiiiiii:.; all the moiiiiiip; and eveniiifj. The. [sen is black with them round about the islands. If there is a little I'o^' and they {,'et out half-a-inilo [I'riiiu sliiire, wc cannot see a ves.sel — lOI) yards even. The vessels tliemselves lay around the islands IthpR' where they ]iick iiji a ;;ood many seal, and there is where the killiii,L; of cows occurs when they f^n |a.slinri'. I think this is woise than it would be to take 2."i,(ltin iinire .seal on the islands than arc now itiikiii. I think th( re i-i some daina^;e. (lone in the killing and ihootiie^ of ihe cows, and leavinj; so liMiiy yoanj^ without their niothers. Q. Is it your opinion that a, hirj^er nnmlier ol seals may lie taken auniially without detriment t<» ItliP roiiki'rics ? -A. No, Sir; I would not recommeiid thai. 'I'lic lime may come, but I think that one lycarwilli another they aiv takin;.; all they ou^hl to take, for this leasoii : I hclieve that Ihe caiiacity of the laill seal is limited, the .same as any other animal, and I hiive [very frcipiently cdunted from tliiily to thirty-live, and even, at one time, forty-two cows with one bull. II think if tlien; v/eiv iiiiiiv bulls there would \n) less cows to one bull, and in that way the incrcaso lnoulil he greater than now. While the number of seal in ihv a,u,L,'rei;ate is not aiijiarcntly diniinishe.d, lanil, in fnci, there is undoubtedly an iiiirea,se, yet if yon take any i^reater number of seal than is taken Inow, this ra'io of cows to one bull would he f,'reater, and for that reason there wiiuld he a less mimber lofynun;,' sea.ls, undoubtedly. 1 look upon the breedinii of the seal as something' like the breeding' of liiivdtlier animal, and that the auuni care, and ivstrictioii, and ju(lL;niPlit should be exerci.sud in this Ibrei'iliii!,'. Tiio sanii! witness U^stitied as follows : — y What will be the ell'cct upon the seal rookeries if this surie]itiliiiiis and nnlawfiil killing in the |lklmii,i!'s Sea is to he, )iiirmitt(ul ? — A. In my jiiilj^'iuent, it would event iially exterininale the seal. Mr. Vj. a. AVilli.-nns, of Omneclicut, before referred to, lestilicd as follows : — y. 1 would like to know — I do not know that it is just the proper time — but 1 would like to get fc'iika of those conv(!rsant willi the lialiils and nature of the .seal, as In what their opinion is upon the fet (if the indiscriminate killin;^ of them while they are coining,' to and goiii^' from the i.slauds? — Tliiil is a (piustioii which 1 think uio.st any of U:j hero can answer. If you note the conformation of [12^1 :{ I 2 *l I, 4'2H iho AltMit.iiiii IkIiiiiiI:4, wliicli rmiii a wall, iiiiil iiotit Uh< ^ii|i.h lliriiii;^li winch Mi<^ nimiIi cdini' f Fni'ilif' Oi'CHii Hi'i'kiiif' tlin liiiiiiii mi IIichi' i»|juiilH, tlnilr in llin wlmlc imiiit. Wlr^ii limy thowi viii'iiiim |iiiMMi'H, f,'('ii('i!illy lliroui;li tliii OiiiiiimK 1'iihh, tlii.i mcu Im ri>iimiiiiilily Himllciw, innl I, I'liiii III, tlirNi|-,|, I (umin laden willi pmis, wniliii'; iiiilil (lii' IiihI, hkiiiicmI in llii' wiilrr Id jjo mlmn^ hi ilclivcr, In can roll ami Ncnili'li niul lii'l|i iIiimiimi'Ivcs IwUit limn if llirv liaiil nul. wlii'ii licavv \vil MUKII l||,,j 1 |'ll|i. HI, III,,, I stay ill till' wiUcr |iliivlii'; nlmMl iiiilil llii'ir inn(inc'|, wiiins ilicin it ii lime In jmi uhIiciii', :iii.| 'liiiiii.,|||,'il tiiilo lliev are iimnHi'il in ftn'iil cpiiinlilii'.'i in (lie ncii. y. Niiw. in (lint view cil il, llie lieMlnu'liiin (if llii'iii lliiTe is nlninsl. |iriirl icnllv III'' h nm, i,., ,1^^ tlost.i'iietiiin (111 I lie inliin(lH I —A. Vch, Sir. Q. Anil llie eoiulilioiiH iitc n ■ ImiiI? ./. Vcm, Sir; iiml nl'len wmse. Inr lliis reiifdii : If vmi |,i||i \m]) yell ilcHliiiy ii Min;;le life, liiit in killing a cnw yen nnl unly ileilrny I lie life flint iiiiiy lir, |, SHllltxi iVdlil wliieli lile ediiies iiereiifler, iiliil when I hey me lulled llieve in tlio Wiil-el' hv n hIii Mil III, or II n|i(i|il' the |iid|iiirliiiii iinvcd by Ihe IniiileiM it |ii'dlialily mil ime in Mcveii. Miiiiatc; Ihiil dill, (if eielil hIihIh Ihey wdiiM niiv II llii^ hind, lh(is(i se\en wmild I'ci Idwanlt till (1 (iiie seal iind 'I'lmf verc Idsl. If 11 111. wnK 1,1 :iiiii iiiirimiil mil; (lilt their ncdie 'l'h(> s;nii(' \vi(iu>ss nUa (ivstilli'd iis IoIIowm: — (,). Iliive Villi inslniiled yniir iieeiil,t Id ediii|ily itiiclly willi llie l.iiw-: nml Iteeiiliiiioiiii i>| |i, 'lYi'iiNiiiv neiiiirliiieiil ' ,(. In every cii.ie ; vtv V I Villi Kill .■ie,il< w illi lire- a nils iit the isliiiulM, nr dn vmi juiiliiliil lliiil ' ,(. Nn, Sir, not iilldwed li\ (lie ,\, I, ni'\ir V I Id Villi kill llie female .seiil.s nr iilldw llieiii In he killed ' ,(, Never with 'inr kiniwli'ifi <J^. 11(1 Mill kill any dilliii},' Ihe munlli (if Aiij^iial fur their skiiH ' .7. Nnl a Meal ; im (fl l>(i ynii kill liny seal,* under '.' yeais did ' .(. N'nl llial we are aware nf The sniiio \vi(iu;ss riirllicr ((>s(iti(>(l : -■ Q. Xiiw, 1 would like Id liaV(> yoiii' d|)inidii ii.m (o llie insiiirn ieiiey nf Ihe presenl iiie.asinvH ul,,|| liy the (•dveriiiiieiit fur the | in il eel inn of Ihe rudkericM, mid ydiir d|iinidti as to whether nny iiilililiiinjl Hafeuiiliird.'i are neees,iary I'er i heir )irdteet inn. ,(. 'I'hat Ihe present iiieasiiies me .sumew hal iii,-iiilliiiiii'| iswIidvMi liy the fiii'l thai lor the la.'(| three nr fniir \ear,s lliere have heen inere;i,sed ilr|ir(il.iiii liy mmIJ aniiiiall V ii|iim lli(i nuikerr cs. Mdi'ii .seals are taken within the limits of 11 ■!iiiiii''.s .S.m, f, were diily lakeii milside of I'leliriiij^'s Sea as Ihey passed up In Ihilish I'liliniihia, and nlf the iiniiilli ,ifl I'lif^et Siiiind. in the walers nf Ihe I'aeilie Deeail. 'I'liat was it le;;itimale jilaie to lake llieiii. iiiul ,;;,| afjain.sl whieli no olijeetidii ennld lie niised. Seals wliieh eoiiie ii]i that way enter Ihidii^li tin iif (he .Meiiti.iii Islands iie.irest to the mainlaml. and it has iilwavs heen the eii.sl Coliiiiiliia mil Sdiiiid Id interecpl ihe seal and !;e|. w h lit ihev eiiiild. Within the last Ia I nil ill l;i'i||.|i| years maiMiiders ha\e Inllowed them lliriiiij;li the passai;es iiilii riehiini,''s .Sea, and have willi i^iiih ;iii,|l spears lakeii llie seals as they lay iijidti the water, as I stated hefure, waitiiii; In haul iisliniii :ii|.| jm t.l loir pill le I'dWS are III avy with pup, mid they do mil like to ;;d asliiire iiiilil the last, iiiiiiii';i!, and sd they lie lliere in the w.iler, and this atVnids an npiinrl iiiiily fur these mar.iiiders In ,;liiiiil, ainll siH'ar tliem This is (Idiie hv ij:mi':,s of Imliaiis wliieli Ihev h, I'liev I me ;_;,lll;^ if llldil llllll them with (hem. The elt'ects of this shudliiii^ is nul aluiie njinn (he se,ils which are at If at, piiiiil.li; 111 it sl.irtles them and raise.s ii siispieinii in their minds, a, id tlii'nis: also uiieii those all aidiiiul, ain pMieral I'celiiii; of di^liirlianee such as you iioliee aiiioiig cattle when liear,s are aliiuit or that kind. iillii .\iul ;\'^:\\\\ : — (,', Now, Mr, Williaiiis. .-^lidiild 11 he linally iiseiirtailied niul cim.idriid hy mir ( ln\i iimn'iii, under the Ticalv ol (' hv uhiili W( wired .Miiskii frniii >u.',.>l,i, mi'l miller I lie l.iw ul ii,i the United Sla'.es does p,is-., .ss ami has ahsoliiUi ddmininn mid jiiii ,iliitl iver riehriii'i's Sea •aliMs df Alaska, would voii think it would ho ii wise policy to .id here to and maintain thai jiirisiliiiM II the len'.al sense ! -,l. Ill ili-| 1111(1 domini'iii iiimplelc. or wmihl i( lie wiser to deelar(| il the liiv.h sc,i i lipht ,i( to-(la\ 1 slmiihl say keep what you have pit, (,'. Ilnhi it as a (d(>S(|(l si^a (---.(. Kislicries wilhiii lhii,*(| limits are yet in In' develniiiil, iinl ; would seem t' such a (■' ur.-c. ry unwise In npcii up possili h' ti.sl icr\- I I'lilciiliniis wliieli ail' vcrv likdv I i (,'. N'du think thai would he, then, the wiser iiolicy to niaiutain such Jiirisdiclidii and (Inaiiiiin:! iJ we ha\e, and 1(1 cdiicede to the vessels of olhcr liatiniis such ri;;lils as are nnl iiicdiisi^tciil willi l'; interests which our iiaiieii has there and whieli need prdteclinii ' .1. l'!.\actlv that ; th.' ri^lilortn" tliltnn;li the .sea wherever they )ilca.se, hut posit ive prdlection to seal \i'x (^. Villi do not think it wdiild he wise to cranl anyiliiiii: ' t—.t. No, Sir; not at all. Q. .\ii(l in no case |( irreiider the power of iKiliciiij^ the s, -x ? — y(. No, Sir ; under lui rmi::' stftncvv (,'. t'enld thill p'lWii' .niil jiiiisdiclidii he siirreudercd and yd prescr\«' Ihii .seal lil'ii na l:;. okeries and the vaiiii' of our lislieiics that may he develnpcd there ?—„l, ( luly w illi very ^;ri';il r„<l Iv.'oause, if that riylit is siirreudercd, and Iherehv the ri-hl In pnliee the sea, Ihe (lejiredatieiis tli, made uiinn the seal wherever ihey may ho fdiiud, wherever men thnm,dit tl \vi I'V could earrv llli<:ii i<!| tliniit beiiiL: laken in the act, would lie (;avried out. So il would he diHicnlt in re;;ard In the lisln VVIier(.'ver they eniild kill llies' seals iliey certainly would he there, and il would he iiiip'«<ilil' tl prevent them i'2'.) ■■•■•" III (III! stalcmciils anil st(ilistic-t ri-litivi! to tlio I'ur-siial fislicrirs siilmnUu'I by (;, A. WillifiniH ill |HSK to Mic (!'>iiiinilti'.^ nC (l)n'^rcm on .Mf-clruit. Mnriiii! and Kishci'icH, (ipiiciir-i (Im lollDtN iiij; : — IvMiiiiiiiiilion 111' llii' c'liilii'Ml I'cciHilH III' llii^ lur-.-'iiaJ tiHliiTy sIiow.h tlml I'li/iii ili" il;!!!; of mi.iii'h iri:(i}{iiiliiHi III' l.jii' viiliiii (if llii^ fill (lilt |iiii'iiiiil III' I hi; iiiiiliiiil luiiilii;.; it Iiiih Imi'Ii iiiii;i'.iiHiii<{ Mini ivii'lilli'"^- S;iM' ill llii' I'l'.W ilisliilin'M 1,11 1/" lliilf'i liiii'i'iil'lrr, \vl|i;li; fiiiViMliini^lllH liiiVi' ilitiirp'Hi'.il Inr till' |Mii|iini' 111' |iriiliT.I,iii;; i.cal lil". Imviii;^ ill viiiW liciii'lils lo in'rriiii in liii! I'liliiri', iIh' iiiiiinul Inw lircii Wiuiliiiily ''I'l'i^;'''''"'''- ^^'I'l II'' i'|';;iili| fur fl,'4l^ ki'\, or nuiiililinii. Tin; inulnii; iipiili', llii; liMPiiili! Iii;iivy willi yiiilii:'. Ill" I'lip' ''''l"'i"'''ii' l'» lil'' 'III I'lii' iiHil'li'M', I'lii'li mill nil liiivii li<;i;ii iMilt«;riiiiiiiiil>;ly killi'il iir li'll I" llii' "I «iitil. 'I'liin rnii'l mill iihi;Ii'Hh liiili'lidry jism ii'miiIIimI in (;citii|ili;tr I'Xii'r/iMiiiilion of I Im liir-Hi'iil Iniiii iiii!iililii'i vvliii li wcvi- niiri; f'iri|iiciili;il liy iiiilliuiiM nf tin; h|/i;'ii.'S , mid, so I'lir sui Uii'ii; loi'iilllii"! !ili' i'i)iin;llii;il, liii'i iplilil.i'iiiti'il mi iinliislry w liirli ii lillli' iiioii; i:iilij;lil,i;iiiiil Ki'lli;ililii'KH liii;^lil, liiivii pi'i'si'ivril ill ]ii'i)irliiity til I III! f^ii'iil lii'inlit. nf III! rmikH uf nvili/.nl Hm'ii'ly, Niilliiii;^ l';W) lliiiii Hl,riiii^i'iil I'lWM, willi will |MHVi-r In I'lil'miu; llii'in n^'uiiMl nil viiiliilir:i, inn pri' mtvi' T'lr nrinV Ih'Iii;!!!, Ijii- nMiiiiiiiil. iifii rni'i' iif iiniiiiiiN md intriviliii^ lunl sd iihi'I'iiI. 'I'lif iini'il, viiiiiulili' " luiiUcry," nr lin'riliiii,'-plMi;i', nl' IIii'hi; miiiniilH (;v(;r knuwii to iniiii in now in l.liii pips.si'HHioii of till! l'iiili;il Sliiti'X. How it liiiH liiii'ii niiiril fur in I'ornii'r yiiiirn mid lu'iiiulit, to iu prrsciili Hiiili' of viiliir iind iiKi'fiilni'fiM will Ik- sIiuwii liiti.T on. linl llii; iiiiilt';r of il« jininrrviilion mid |i(>rpi;lniiliiiii inlarl, is ihc iuijiorlmit, i|ii('nlion of tin; iiionirnt, iiiid tliiit tin i 'iiiuHlion iiiiiy hi (;i)n»i'li'icil Ilitrlli;,'i'nlly till' i'vii|i;nri' i-i liir.' priMi;nlci| of llii' wmiloii di"(lri|i:ti'iii iJiiit lias lii'fiilliMi thcso aniiiiiilM wlii'ii I'll iiiipi"l<'''t';'l liy tin; Ihw I'i iiiiiii'm ;4ii'I'i| mid Mi'lliilini'HH, wliiili, it i» I'nir to piiy, is id! iliiit riuilil III' I'xpi'iti'd fioni llii' nnli.i'ii-ird litinti'r, wIuph'i nntiiri; hitI; i individual and iniini'iiiiiti! ;,'aiii, witli nil regard for ii riilnni in which In; iiiis no ii.ssiiran(;i; of priMoiiiil iid'.'mita.^^i;. Tin; I'ulliiwin;^ Mlali.Mlii'M mi; ;;atlii;ii'd from llin journals of I'aily navi^jator-;. and ".iicli coniiniircia! riM'iirilH lis iiri'. now avnilahli; am Hiiliniitti'd. I\'ir;/ii(/i-ii /.mill- All idaiid in Siintlicin Indian Oii'aii, discovi'icd ah'int I 77-. Thi'. sliore.s of llii ; iHliiiiil wcii; li'i'iiiin^' willi Inr-si'iii wlnn it lirst linaini' known, lii'twi'iiii tin; 'lalo of its ili.s'^i'/i'iy ami tin; yi'ar I HDD ovor I,'JI'D,DDII scmI akins wcri' taki'ii hy tlni I'.ritisli vcssidu from tin' island, arnl wnl lifi; tliiTi'iin was i'.\t('riniiiati'd. f ';■<':<•/'.'.•, —Till! < 'ro/.i'l I, Islands, in Hanni ori'mi and not far dislant, wcri; ■iliu vi.siti;d !i.;id Iiiiiil"il ovrr and llic sniii lil'n (linri' lolally I'xIian.stiMi. i]firH-ii -/■'('< I'd. An island in Soiitlii;lii I'acilii; Ori'iin, liUitinli; .'IH I'S' .south, loii;^iti|ilc Hfr ','A' ui;st, wimij iii'xl, ill orilr.r of ijiscovrry, mid from its sliori;s in ii I'liw yoalH wan; i^atlnard and Hliiiipcd |,'jlllt,!lDll fiir-si'iil skins jli'luio, rliiipti'i- 17, p, .'iDii, saya of j\fas-ii l''iii;ra : — " Whin Ui,' Ami'rJiMn.i i-nini* li) lliii iitm;i' in I7'J7 nii'l t)"i<!Ui tn iirikfl n liiuiiiciii nf Icillinf; r.-iI,., tli'-rr ii no dimltt bill. IIiitr wiTi' '.',(1011.110 I '<r .'1,00 1,000 of llli'iii uii llii- nliiirl. I li.ivi; iiiikIo iiii i-x inrili' iiF iiiiiri' tu.'iii .1,'l'ai,'l>|i| lli.it li.ivi' Iili'Ii iMrrii-'l In (.'iiiit'iil Iniii llii'iir;' in till' itpilrl; ill' BPVrn yniir«. I liuve nirrii' 1 innn- llia-i 100. 000 my«i'lf, iiinl tiirr- I),.,.|i at il, ■ [daiT wli -ll tli';ri' vt'rr Itii' |ii-M|iI,. nf fiiiiili'i>n hIii|i.< or vi'4« 'U rill tlii> IkIiiiiiI al oiii' liiii ■ killiii.; iir;itii." t<iiiilli Slidhiiiih. In IH'JI 1/.'! tin' Soul h Slut hind I'^lainh. a ;;ioiip intaily .-.uiuli Iruni (U[ii! Iluiii, lii'ianii' knii«ii to thr ^ijl-hiinti'is, nnd in twiiyiMis u\i'r ;iJO.()oD Hiialswcii! killed and tln;ir skins dliippi'd from lliisi' islands. ,S(ii'7i (i'riiri/iii..--\,)\rv still, si'iil wi-n; I'oniid on tin; Island of .'-i'liilJi 'idnr^jia, .S'liith Atlantii; Oriraii, and I'idin this Im'ality w.'is olilaini'd over I.Di. ),DI)D of fiir-si'al, Iciiviii'.,' tin.' lii'ai;lns li.iii; of Hi;al lil'i;. ('"/ir JJani. — l''ioni tin' roasts of South Ami'iiia and iihinit (.'apo Morn many tinmsands of fiir-si'iil have hi'i'ii taki'ii, and of thr lifi; oiirn sn prulilir tln'ii! nuthiiiL; is now irft h.iv; sir'h rrnin int,.s of fornuT herds as shi'ltcr on mrks mid isli'ts aliimst inari-i'ssihli; lo tho iinisl darin;,' hniilrr. This rrriird shows the. nearly coniph.'ti; ilrstnic'tioii of thcsi' valiialili', aniinihi in sontlnirn nra.s. I'riipi'lly priiti'i'ti'd, Kn'riii'li'ii Laud, .Mas-;i- Kni'ia, tin; Shi'tliinds, and .South '•i"iT'!,'ia n,i;;ht liavo lM;i;n liivis III' iinliisliy, pinihiciiii.'; vast wi'.dlh, Irainin^^-srlinolH for hardy scann;!!, and furnishing' <;ni[iIoynii'iit Inr lens of llioiiHaiids in tin; world's niirknts wlinri; skin.s arc dn'ssi'ij, prepared, and distiihiited. lint till! luealiiies wi'ii; no mall's land, and no man eared for tlieiii or llicir prndni'ls .-^avc ua tliroiigli ili;stnii:liiiii tin'y conld he transmitted into a passing; profit. The seal lite of t '-day avallahle, for eomiiiereia! piirpo-,(;s is eeiitre i in threo luiialities ; — 1. The l.oliiis Islands, silnaled in the. inoiith of the liiver La I'lat.'i, owned and ciintrollcd hy tlui llrai;iiay li'ep'ihlie, and hy that (iovcriiment leasdl to private partiui fur tin; sum of (i.DUD dollars pi.T animni and S'linc slipiilated ehari,'es. Tin; aiiiiiial iiroiinet in skins is ahout lJ,Oni). '{'In; skins are of rather inhaior i|iiality. Insnllieiciit reslrietimis an; ]ilaeud upon tin; Ics-ccs in re;;,iii| lo the nuinlM'r of skin- perniiiled to he taken annually, eonseipiently iheri' is soiik! wn-'lo of lili;; iievi;rlliel"s.u, (Ik; nieaaire of pioleetion allo.\ed has insured the jirescrvatioii of tin; rookery, iind will (;ontiiiai! sn til ilii. 2. Isoinandorski <,'inipl('.l, whieli i;iinsists of the Islands of Copper and r."lirin'^', near the criast of Kanieh.ilka, in that portion of lielirinn's .S(!a peitaiiiin;; to Uiissia. 'J'licsu islands yii;Id ahiiit •lll.tlllil skins p(;r annnm, of k"|"I ipiality, and an; j^'iiarded hy carefully rcstrietivo Itiile.s as to tliu killing; of ;:cal, analo^'ini.s lo tin; Stalntes of the I.'nited St.itus relative to tin; ;!anie suhject. The ri^Iil to take seal: niioii them is leiusi'd liy the liii.ssiaii < loveriim(;iit to an Association of Ameri.'an citiz us, who al.Mi hold I in; lease of the islands helonniii;,' to the United States, and are thus (;iialiled to e'introl and direct the hnsiness in I'ur-yeal skin.s for the conimon aihanta^e and lieiielit of all parties in interest. T'liese i.->lainls can hardly he said to have, heeii " worki;;I " at all fur salt(;d S(;alskiiis |)riiir to the cession of Alaska hy Kiissia lo the Knited Slates, and the niiitcl .States' (.lovernment now prolils tiy the industry to the extent of the duty of 20 [ler cent. eoUeL'ted on tlio "dressed skins" retunieJ > ''I i 'if -i ,1- ! I : li 4'iO to tills coiintiv I'l'oiii llii' I.niuloii iii;iikut. I'ltmi I87f? Ui 1887, iiii'lusivi', lliis retuiii lius lii'|.|, 121,275 skins. ' 3. Tlie I'liliylov g\o\\]i cmisist.s i)f the Islands of St. I'liul iintl St. duoryi", and is a Ciovcriiiiiciil reservation in that part of liulniiig's Sea cedi'd to the United States by Itussia, toifether with iiml a part of Alaska. So oxliaustive nn account of these islands and their .seal life has been f,'iveii by Mr. H. W. Elliott, Special Agent of the Trensury JJejinrtment in 1874, and since intimately connwU'll with the Smithsonian Institution, which account has been made a part of Tenth Census l!i<i)ort, tliiit ii would lie intnisive here to attempt to supplement auglit, and therefore oidy f,'eneralization.s Imsiul un said I{c|iort and sucii statements of life and jirocpchire on the islands to-daj' are presented as may lie pertinent in this (ionnc^ction. In an article on fur-seals Avliich appeared in " Land and Water," .1 nly 14, 1877, Mr. Henry Leo (Ens^lisliman), F.L.S., says : — It nas been stated that during a period of fifty yeara not less thiin liO,Ul)(l tons of sea-ele|iliiiiii s oil, woHli more than l,U()tl,0()(i/., was annually obtained from New (ieoigia, besides an iiicalculalilc number of I'uv-se.'d skins, of which we have no statistics. Some idea may lie had of tlieir iiuiiilieis in former years when we learn that on the Island of AIa.s-a-Fuera, on the coast of Chile (an island udt 25 miles in circumference), C'a])tain Fanning, of the American shi]i " I5eisy," obtained in 1708 a lull crop of choice skins, and estiuiate<l that there were left on tlie island at least ri(lO,OU(i .'iciili,. Subsequently then^ were taken from this island little short of 1,0UK,U00 skins. The sciil eatchini; wiis extensively prosecuted there for many years, the sealing fleet on the cuasl of Chile alone llicn numbering thirty vessels. From Desolation Island, also discovered by Cook, and the South Siietliiml.s, discovered bv Weddell, the number of skins taken was at least as great ; from the latter alone ;j2n,('0O Were slii]iped during the two y(!ars 1821 and 1822. China was the great market to which they woiv sent, and there the price for each skin was from 4 to 6 dollars. As several tlmusand tons of shippin;;, ehielly Knglish and American, wen^ at that time employed in fur-seal catching, tin: jirolits nl the early traders were enormuu.-;. Docs the reader ask what has become of this extensive and highly remunerative southern Im trade? It has be(ii all but annihilated by man's grasping greed, reckless imjirovidencc, and waiitdii cruelty. The " woeful want " has come that " woeful waste " has made. Without thought of tlic future the niisguided hunters persistently killed every .seal that came within their reach. Old and young, male and female, were indiscriminately slaughtered, in .season and out of season, and thousamls of little ])ups iiiiL liiuuglit worth the trouble of knocking them on the head were left to die of huin;cr alongside of the llaycd and gory carcases of their mothers. Every coast and i.sland known to lie ihc haunt of the seals was visited by ship after .shiji, and the massacre left unfinished by one gang wn.s continued by tli'' next comers and conipleled by others until, in conscciuence of none of the animals being left to br , their nuniln:r gradually iliniinished so that they were almost exterminated, only n few strag.glers uiiiaining where millions were once found. In some jilaccs where formerly liny gathereil together in such densely packed crowds upon llu^ shore that a boat's crew could not find ini.iii to land till they had liispersed them for a s]>ace with oars and boat-hooks, not one fur-seal was In In' iound even .so long ago as I Ho".. ""■ Dr. H. H. Melntyre, Sup(>rintendent of the seal lisherics of Alaslva for the lessees, testilied before the Congressional Committee as follows: — Q. "What projiortion of the .-^I'als shot in the water are recovered and the skins taken to market '.— A. I think nol, more than oue-lifth of those shot are recovered. Many are bailly wounded and cscaiic. AVc tind every year, imbi.'dded in blubber of animals killed u]ion tlu! islaiids, large (laantities of llall(■t^ shot, and buckshot. Last yuar my men brought to me as iimch as a iloidilo liandl'iil of lead foinul In them imbedded in this wiiv. Q. 1 want I o ask you whether ur not the ;!-year-old seals, or many of them, which should have retunu-d this year did not return because lli(-y had lieen killed \ — A. That seems to lie llie case. Tlic marandini; was exlen';iv('ly carried on in ISSo and 1880, and in previous years, and of course the iniii-- that would have been born from cow.s lii.it v.cre killed in 188.''i, or that jierislied through the less ef their mnilii.rs during thai year, would have come upon the islands in 1S88, and we should have had that additiiiiial number IVoiii which to make our selection this year. The deficiency this year i< attributeil to that cau^^e — to the fact that the cows were Killed. And 1 would say lurtliei' that if ciim.< are killed late in the season, my in Aii'inxl, after the pujis are born, the latter are left ujion the island de])rived of the mother's cari^ and of course ]ierish. The (ithict is the same ^.•llelhor the cows aiv killed before or after (he pups are choiiped. The young jicrish in either case. • » » ' ' » » « Q. It being <'oneeded that the Islands ari^ their home, and no one beiiii:' iiuercstcd other than tlic American and Hussian (lovi rnnii'iits, there Mould be no sjiecial reason why other natiiais would olijert ? — A. Only the tlovernmeiits of the United States and England are interested in the Ala.-kaii sea! fisheries to any great extent. The United .States is interested in it a,s a producer of raw material, and Knr, land as a manuf.ictim'r of furs. If these two nations were agreed that seal lil'e slioiild br protected, 1 think there would be no trouble in luUy jirotecting it. ll is a (|uestion of (piite as iiiucli mtoresl to England as to the United States, for she has a large number of ,'jkilled workmen ami a liu'i;i' amount of capital engageil in this industry. ProftN'^or iniiott. (if the Sinithsoni.tn Institution, M'ho ha-; spent some tin^o scienlilictiUy (^xaiiiiuiiiL;' tlie 8eal Islaiuis and tlie liabits of the seal, thus describes 1 killing power ol' the seal-hunter at sea : — 481 His power to destroy tlieni is also aiigmoiited by the fact that those neals which are most linble to meet his eyt; luiil aim are thu fiMiiale I'lir-seals, whicli, heavy with young, are here slowly nearing tho liinti, souiiiUy HlirpiiiL; at sea hy intervals, iiiul reluctant to haul out from tiiu cool embrace of the wiite.r upon their li/eeiliujj-gmuiKls until that day, and hour even, arrives which limits tho period of their gestation. Tlie pi^higic sealer employs tliree agencies with which to sec\iru his (piurry, viz. : Ue scuds .ou6 DlllilUl^' with canoes from his vessel armed with spears ; he uses sliot-guns and buek-.shot, rides nnJ Ijalls ; and last, but most deadly and destructive of all, he can sproa(l the "gill-net" in favourablo weather. With gill-nets " underrun" 1)}' a fleet of scalers in Hehriug's 8ea across these converging paths of the fur-seal, anywhere from ID to 100 miles soutiierly from the I'ribylov groui), I am moderate in •jaying tliat such a llect could utterly ruin and dcstro}' those fur-seal rookeries now present upon tho Seal i.-ilands in less lime than threi! or four short years. Every foot of that watery roadway of fur-genl travel aliove iiuliculcd, if ihcso men were not checked, could and wouhl be traversed by those deadly nets; and a seal coming I'rom or going to the islands would have, under lh<i water and above it, sraircely one cliaiipc in ten ol' sid'ely ])assing such a cordon. Open those waters of lielu'ing's SiVi, to uncliecked pelagic sealing, tlien a Hcet of hundreels of vessels, steamers, ships, scJKiuners, and wliat not, would immediately venture into them, bent upon tho most vigorous and indiscriminate slaughter of these f'Hr-.s(!als ; a few seasons nf gri'cdiest rapine, then nothing would be lelt of those wunderful and valuable interests of our (Jovernment which are now so hiuidsuniely embodied on the Seal I.slands; but which, if guarded and conserved as they .are to-niay, will last for an indefinite time to come as objects of the highest commercial good and value to tho wnrld, and as snlijccts for the most fascinating biological study. Siioriting i'ur-seals in the open waters of tht^ sea or ocean with tbe peculiar .shot and buUefi lartridgcs used iiivcdvos an immense waste of seal life. l''very seal that is nuuely wounded, and even if mortally wounded ,at thi; moment of shooting, dives and swims away instantly, to ])erish at soma poiMl I'ar distant, and to bo never again seen by its human CTiemics : it is ultimately destroyed, but ib i.^i lost, in so far as the hunters are concerned. If the seal is shot dead in.stiintly, kilh'd instantly, then it win lie jiickcd up in most every case; but not one sual in toi fired at by tlu; most skilful marino luuilcrs is so shot, and nearly eveiy seal in this ten will have been wounded, many of them fatally, 'flic ini'gular tundiling of tla,' water around tho seal, and tho irregular heaving of the hunter's boat, liOth acting al the same moment entirely independent of each other, making the diflieulty of taking an iiciMirate aim execijdingly great, and the result of clean killing very slender. Mr. CJcorjjo R. Tingle, United States' 'J'lUiasury Agent in cliarsifc of the fur-seal itilands from April 18S5 until August 188R, testified as follows :— ■ ;') y. it is Mr. .Mel uly re's opinion that they have not only not increa.sed, but have dccrea.sed ?— • , ./. There has been a slight diminution of seals, probably. Q. To what do you attribute that ? — A. 1 tlunk there have been more seals killed in tho sea than (!V('r bel'tire by marauders. I estimated that they secured 30,000 skins in 18S7, and in order to securo dint number of skins they woidd have had to kill 500,000 seals, while this Company in taking 1110,0110 on shore ilestroyed only thirty-one seals. Those were killed by af'cidciit. Sometimes a young seal, or one not intended to be killed, pops up his head and gets a blow nniiitentionally. Q. Tho waste of .seal lite was only fifty-three in 1887 ? — A. Yes, Sir ; in securing 100,000 skins, while thesi! maiMuders did not kill last year less than ."JOO.OOO. The logs of marauding schooners havo IliUeii into my hands, and they have con\iii;ed me that they do not secure miu'e than one seal out of I'vciy tell that tliey mortally wound and kill, for the reason that the seals sink veiy (juickly in tho water. Allowing one out of ten, there wouhl be .")00,00O that they would kill in getting .'30,000 skins : 200,000 of those killed would be females liaving 200,000 pups on sluire. Those pu|)s would die by.. reason of the death ol' their motliers, which, added to the 1300,000, makes 500,000 destroyed. I am iuchucd to think, liccaiise the seals show they are not increasing, or rather that they are at a standstill,- that more than 300,000 are killed by marauders. (/. You arc of the opinion, then, that the marauders are killing more seals than tho Alaska t'uinmercial ('onqiauy ? — A. At least fivi^ or six limes as many as the Alaska Cimimercial Company, ;ire killing. Q. What will be the ell'oct if more stringetit measures are not taken to protect the seals by tho (liiverument ? — -.1. If more stringent measures are not taken, it is only a cpiestion of time when theso ^eals will be ilriven idtimatel^' to seek some other home M-here they will not be. molested. They will not I'outinue to be harassed; and, if this marauding is continued, they will, in my opinion, either bo .i^fiulually exterminated, or will leave the islands permanentlj' and land at some other place. They: miiy go on the liussian side. Q. Will marauding increase if the Government does not take stops to prevent it ? — A. I think so. <j. Is it practicable to prevent it ? — A. Yes, Sir. If we did not allow those cheeky, persistent, iusuleiit British Columbia seamen to go there and defy tho United States and its authorities, it would very soon be stopjicd. When our revenue-cutters seize the Ikitish schooners, the captains are very insolent and defiant, and claim that they havo a strong Government at their backs. I am now reforring jiartioularly to Captain Warner, of the "Dolpliin." Ho said in 1887, when captured, "We have got a strong Government at oui backs, and wo will fight you on this question." " Very well," says (Japtain Slii^pherd, " I have got a strong Government at my back, and J am going to do my duty. My Govern- ment .sends me to protect these seal I'ookerio.s. I am charged by this Administration to ejifowa the liiw, and r will seize all ninrauder.s." ' , • • • ♦,«.,♦' 132 Q. Voii wc^rc .s|n'akiii;< a wliiltMijiii iu ii'giiitl ti) tliu amuuiil of snil lilc dt'sluiyiul liy iimiiiinli'in ami llint a ciiiitiiin liml given tlic iiuiubiT ol' hcuIh tli'slidyud. Ilavt* you .seen any of tliti l(i,!{-lic)iikM (if thoso voaH(!la t — A. Yes, Sir. Q. AViU you Htalii what you ronioiuluT with ifijanl In llu' tiiimlicr of .scalH lost or ciii.liircil liy t|i(,si) vessels? — yf. I viMiieiiiliur reading llio log-liook of llie " .\iig(d Dolly," vvliicli J cnfilnrcil. TIuto Wfts iilry WHS nnulc ni iinnlluir ]i _ ... , skill out of every lifly seals wounded and killed. Q. Have you seen seal-skins uiion the island llial liiindFilla of shot, every sea.son. Q. Does that injiiii' tin- market value of the skins the ekiii. Iieen shot > — A. Very often. We LMlln.r . rndonlili'dly, .\ny liole is an injury In Exti-act from Mr. Tiii!i:lo',s Uoport to the Treasury Dciiiirlincttt ; — I mil now eonviiieed from what I gather, in r|nestiouiug the men belonging to eaptnred seliunrieis nud from reading the logs of the vea.sels, that not more than one seal in ten killed and moitnlly voniided is landed on the hoals and skinned; thus ynn will se(^ tlie wanton destrnet ion of seal lifo vithout any henelil whatever. 1 think ;in,tlO() skins takeu this year hy the niarauders is a low estimate on this basis ; liOO.OOO fur-seals were kilh'd to seeuru that number, or throe times as many u.s Iho Alaska ('(miinereial Company are allowed by law to kill. You eaii readily .see that this greiil Blauglitcr of seals will in a few years make it inipossiblo for 100,01)0 skins to he taken on the islands lij the lessee.s. I earnestly hope more vigorous measures will be ado))ted by the <loveriinieiit ia rieiUiiig witli these destrnetive law-breakers. William Gavitt, an Agent of tlie Uiiitotl Slates' 'I'reasiiry, gave tiiis testimony :— Q. 1 understand yon to say— for instance, taking 1887 or 1888 — tliut the 100,000 seals takiMi upon llio islands and the 40,000 taken and killed in the water, if no greater amount was taken, thai there would be no pereeptible diniinutioii in the miiuher of seal; that by the natural inerea.se tlio Company might take 40,000 more than now if it were not for the depredations '.--A. I had in mind mi average between 23,000 killed iu 1888 and about 40,000 in 1887. Q. What 1 want to know is this : Is it yonr opinion that the number tuken in the .sea, when thay are on the way from the islands to the feeding-grounds, have a tendeiiey to demoralize the seal ami to lircak nj) their habits, their eontidenee, ite. ( — A. It w<iuld bi^ likely to do it. They are very easily frighteued, and the diseliarge of lire-arms has a teiuleiiey to frighten tlaan away. Hy Mr. MaeDonald : Q. No seals an^ killed by islands with clubs. the r oin]iany in thi.s way ./. No, S.'r ; they are nil killed on ihii Jacob 11. Moultou, an Agent of tlie (iovernment, testifuul : — Q. Do you think it es.sciitial to the preservation of .seal life to protect the seal iu the waters of Alaska mid the I'acilic? — A. There is no doubt nbont it. Q. The Iu rd cimld be exterminated without taking them upon the islands^ — ./. They could Uu cxteniiinaled by a system of marauding in the llehriiig's Sea, but I think the iinniber killed along the J?ritisli Coluiuliia coast did not affect the imnilier we wiae killing on the islands at that time, beeaasu there was aiijiai-ently an increase during these years. There bad been for live or six years np to tliiil ,':tc. Since that time in Hehring's Sea the seal have been gradually decreasing. Q. You think their decrease is attributable to unlawful liunting in Kehring's Sea ^ ./. There i.s iio doubt of that Q. As a result of your observation there, could you suggest any betti^r method of laeserving .seal life in llehriiig's Sea than that now ad<ipted !—A. Not unless they furnished more revenue-vessels and inen-of-war. Q. So as to piilnil the sea closely ? — .1. 1 think so. I do not think the seals scatter much thrcayli any great distance during the suminer season, although very late in the sunnier the smaller seals arrive. The females, after giving birth to their young, scatter out in Jiehring's Sea for food. VVu know they leaver the islands to go into the water, because they are coming and going. They siicklf their young the .same as most animals. Q. Lawless hunters kill everything they Knd, I believe, females or not? — A. Ye.s, Sir. Q. When a feiiialo is nursing lier ycaiiig nud goes out for food and is killed or wounded, tluil results also in the death of her young f — A. Yes, Sir. As her young does not go into the water, il docs not do anything for some time, and cannot swim and has to be taught. Q. The .seals are born npon those islands ?—yl. Yos, Sir; they ciuue there for that piiiiiosc. They eonio there expressly to breed, because if they (Ivopjied their young in the water the pup wmiM drown. Q. Do you think the value of the s:ials justilies the jiolicy that the Oovcrnnient pursues for tlair preservation and protection ? — A. Yos, Sir ; f do. Q. And'undei'a rigidly enforced .system ]n'oteriiug seal life in the '.villers of tln'se se;i,s do ynu 483 think till' lit'i''! ci'ultl l>u imvterially incroaaoil ? — A. I think it wmiM. I think thuru in no doubt but wlmt it wdiiid. Edwnnl Shields, of Vancouver Island, ii sailor on hoard t\w. JJritisii schooner "Cnroliiie," cns^aijed in seal-hunting in Hehriu;;'s Sea in 188(», testified, aftcM* Uie vessel was seized, that the (18(1 seals taken durinj^ the whole time they were cruizing in the opcMi sea were chiefly females. Mr. H. A. Gliddcn, Treasury Agent, recjalled, testified as follows : — (), {''roiii lh(! iiiiinlit'V of Nkins t;ik(!ii you iwtimiiti'il tlic niinilu;!' killoil ? — A. Tliiil sciismi 1 know then' «'i'ii' Uiirty-livti vcssiils in tliu siiii, and wi^ t;ii|itnrod liflui'ii vussi^is. Tlio oiitclii'S of tiiu vessels were ]iii'ili>'l"''l '" •-'"' l>iil"'i'>' wlii'n limy un'ivod lionic, and aveni^'cd IVoni 1,000 to 2,500 skins ciicli. I), Villi estimate, tlion, that dniiuL,' tliii soasoii 40,001) skins wt^i^ tiikcn i* In killinj; tiicni in tlu; iiiica soil tluiy di> not loc.ovi'i' tiviuy si'iil thtiy kill ^ — A, No, .Sir; I do not think Ihry do. In I'lict, I iiiiiiw llioy do not, Jiiii^;inji I'loiu thu lummnt of shot and luiid taken troin tlin souls that urn al'torwards killi'il 01' St. I'liiil and St. (loortio Island.s. y. So tliiit tiio dostriK'tion of Iho souls in tho (iptui sou would ho much in o.xooss of the nundwr taken, iirohiihly f — A. 1 liiivii im vory iioouiato infonniilion on whioh to haso an opinion, Imt I should jiHlfjo that tlioy lost Iroiii 40 to 00 jior ooiit. of tlicin. I saw a f^ood many shot froiii thu boats IIS I was a]iproiicliiii,i,', and think thi^y lost two or thioo out of livo or si.x that 1 saw ihoin shoot at. Q. From your olisiuvations havo you any ro'iuiiinoMdiitioiis or si|i^<^ostions to olfor, tho adoption of wliiili would load to tho hottor )iroHorviilion of seal lifo in tho.so walors than is now jirovidod hy law ? — .1. Tiioro is a difforoino of opinion as t^) tho oonstriiolioii of tho law. 1 firiiily boliovo that tho Oovcrnuiont should oithor proloot iho islands and wiitor in tho oastorn half of IJohrinj,''s Son or throw upllicir intorost tln^ro. If tho liuhrin^f's Sou is to bo roi,'ardod as opoii for vossols to i^o in and capture st'iils in tho wiitor, they would lie extcrininiited in a short tnuo. Synopsis of Ilojily to Jlr. lUaino's Letter to Sir J. I'auncefoto of March 1, 1890. Mr. ISliiino's ruforenco to indiscriminiitc slau;,diter — note in point Iwtraordiimry ])ro(lu('tivonoss of seals liookorics in Soiitii I'licilio withhold extensive raids for years ... Xoiie of I'lioilii^ lishorios ever oipudhMl those of the I'riliylov i^roup History of South Siiotland Tslaiids, and wholesale deslruelion thereon ... Uostruotion at Mns-ii-Kiiera Cliapol of opinion that 100,000 a-year could have been taken from tho Shotlunds under ]iro)ior rostrielioiis Tups in tlioiisands I'oiind do.id on beachoa ... liuorreet statement in Iti^port of the Ifousi; of liepresentatives n.s to rookeries of the world liiissian iMoniorandnm of July 25, 18S8, onunioratiiij,' rookeries t'ape of liood Hope rookeries, null the ])rotect ion uf same Dostruction on those rookeries formerly — jihiguo — revival of rookeries imdov regulations. Seals shot — statement that one only in seven is shot — contradicted by Canadian hunters ... Jlr. Elliott on uiK'rrini,' aim of Indian hunters rrai'tice of hunters Stiitemont of facts ]n'ior to and at time lease of islands to Alaska Commercial Company (1S70) — lessees permitted to lake 100,000 a-yeiir Slauf,'hler iiiidor Iliissian nile 'i'alilo siiowiu',' catoli, ]817-(lO I'lidimiiii.sheil mndilion of islands, 1808, thoiijih 0,000,000 taken 1841-70 50,001) seals kilh'il on tjio klaiid of St. (loori^'e'in 1808 15(1,1)1)0 kiUod oil the Island of St. I'aul iluiinn the same your... Goiioial iiu.slannht — .'100,()t)0 kilh'd in l,8(i:)... ' Xotwitlislandin),' tiie above destriietioii, 100,000 a-year might, Mr. Boutwell .stated, be killed with )iroteetioii in and around the islands Mr. I>all of same opinion in 1S7() (100,000 a-year may saloly be killed)... Toiiuie of lease allowed 100,01)1) a-year — any male seal of one year or over- natives to kill [iiips for food ... Opinion of Conimittoo of llcnise of Kepresenlatives that .seals roipiire protection during iiii,L,'iation, and for 50 miles soulli-east of rookeries while searching for fooil, which dilfers from ilr. Jilaino's proposition Mr, Gliddeu's testimony — ninrely his oiiinions, not based on practical knowledge ... Mr. Taylor's testimony ... On islands in 1881 — as to seals' intolbgiMico and liours for feeding. N'o bulls remain on islands all summer — -writers aiul agents contradict this Jlv. Taylor admits thai killing occurs inshore, where the sea is black with .seals ... This witness, while staling that young pups are lost, does not instance finding dead jiups on the islands — his admission that seals have not diminished. 11281 Page. 4;iG 480 480 4:!0 4;!(i 4:»j 4,30 430 480 4:i7 4;!7 487 487 487 487 487 487 488 488 4:!8 488 488 488 488 488 488 489 480 439 3 K m 43J. ltd 441 C'liiol' (laiimr;iMlu(' t(i iiiHullicit'iil ]iit)l(H'tion uf iHliiiulM Mr. VVilliiiins' tcstiiiupiiy Nil |)i'i*)iml kiiowludni' us to tlio nimI — rcfiTN to wniit uf proU'ctioii mi islniulH luid (liui;{('r of sriil.s lii'iiig taki'ii wlu'ii pUHHinc^ Ali'iitiiiu Isliiiuls — iiiciviisi'il ili'pitM lilt ions ii|ion tliu rookeries for lust tlntii! or four years. Mr. Mcliityri', (ioV(4um(!iil A;,'eiit, ufterwanls u Sii|i('riiit('ii(l('iil for tlie Coliiiiuiiy... 44ll Tliiiiks oiu!-liltli only of seals shot iu(^ reoovcred — fouml seals witli sliot— uttriliutes delii'ieney of seals in ISHH to tlii^ iaet that cows were killiMl — atten:|ils to reiluee estimate, as to nuinlier. of Klliott and !>all liy onivhalf — larj/e decrease in 1SS7 S8 — tlecrease sinei^ lHSL',es|ieeially since ISS I — eonsideralile )]er('entaj,'e of killed uiaile n]i of males — 10,000 skins in IKUt) and 1M87 taken in l!eliriM;,''s Sea — this merely a surmise— HO or i'O per cent, of catcli females — ]iositive testimony of this witness on matters of opinion or hearsay — his stutcMK^nt thai islands unnMilested from 1870 to 1885 incorrect, as well as statement as to deercii >■ from 1882 and 1884. Mr. F.lliott's testimony ... IJe]iort rcKardinj,' him hy Mr. Morri.s in 1870 — Mr. Klliolt's evidence heloru Coufiressioiia! Committee j,'o((S further than his pre\ i(uis wriliu'^s — his statement ref,'ardinf; loss of woundeil seals eonlradieled. Mr. Tingle's testimony ... On islands, 1885 to 188() — slight diminution prohuhly -culculatiou of eutch from enliy in log of "Angel Dolly " -extraordinary log ami e.stiaordinary (■rew of "Angel Dolly" — Jfr Tingle coiitnidicts Mr. Mcluty re -increase since .Mr. Elliott's count, 1 87(i, 2,lli7,0(IO— criticism of 'Mr. Elliott's stutenuMit )v decrease, and jioints out that Mr. Elliott was not on the ishuuls for I'uuiteeu years. Mr. 'W. Uavitt's lestinaaiy On St. (leorge Island, 1887-88 — had ehurncter of iMuployes of Company — no means of Agents kn./wing of unlawful killing — no agent can say whi^n seals are captured oil' the islands — lessees buy seals killed at Ouoalaska — Agents drawing' two salaries, one from (oiveriunent and one from the Comiiany. .\Ir. Moulton's testimony, J 877-85 lnereu.se in number seals to 1882 — decrease to 1885 — opini<in and evidence us to catch of niolliors. Edward Shields, sailor, as to catch of (18() seals, chielly femules — custom of hunters to class all skins of seals under those of mature seals as females Mr. Glidden, recalled, bused his estimate of 40,000 catch from newsjiai)ers Inexperience of witnes.ses No cross exandnation of witne.sses The opinions of witnesses Their opinions are substantially that females nursing go out ftu' food — when away from islands are shot — greater jiart of catch in liehring's Sea made up of females — many of the .seals shot are lost. Issue joined on these by Canadian tiovernmenl. Seals oaii be protected and increased in number by (1) jiropcr ]iatrol of islands : (2) killing of |aips jiro- liibited ; (o) reduction of pu]is to ln' killed on islands; (4Himil of months for killing; (5) ]irevention of killing by Aleuts at the Aleutian Islands ... 44;'> Difl'erence between Mouse of l'ie[)resentutives' Connnittec; and Mr. I'llaine as to when injury began to islands — 18811 or 1885 ... ... ... ... 44:'. Important to show how insigniticant catch of Canadian sealers compared with de)iredations successfully survived by islands ... ... ... ... 44;l Depredations on i.slands and catch outside i.sland.s — 187(1 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 44:; 1872 ... ... ... ... ... ... 44:; 1874 ... ... ... ... ... 443 1875 ... ... ... ... ... ... . . ... 44:1 1876 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 44;! 1877 ... ... ... ... ... 44;! 1878 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... .. 443 1879 44:i 1880 ... ... ... ... ... . . ... ... 444 1881 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 444 1882 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 444 1883 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 444 1884 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 444 1885 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 444 1880 ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 444 None of the depredations were eonimitted by Canadian sealers ... .. 445 Mr. Blaine refers to increase and profitable jmrsuit of industry down to 188(1 ... 44." '•'resent value and condition of islands better than ever ... ... ... 445 omparative ofi'ers for lease of islands, 1870-90 ... ... ... ... 445 442 442 442 442 442 442 44;j 435 KiKiriuouH vtiiilal and {tiulits rt'cuivctl by Unituil States i'loiii tliu iHluncIs ... ,,, 445 Ki'Cfipts mid uxih'iisos — ",t,r)25,l!rt:i dollars received by tlie I'nitt'd Hlatiw in uxccmh i)f purcbiiso |irici' (if .Vlaska... .,, ... ... ... ... 445 Miirvellous iiicnia.to nf suhIm in spilo of do|irudat.ion.s lelViTcd to ... ... 445 ISfi'.l, 1,72H,(»0()— 1874, 4,7()(),(lilll— 1H84, iiicrcasiiii,'— 1885, no chanac- ; connt- i('»s nnnilici'M — 1887, ft ill on tlu; inf'i'oa.st- — -1888, no cban;,'!'. Witli total of 4,700,000 in 1874, l.inutonant Maynard of opinion 112,000 yonn^ male N(tnls can bo safidy killi'(l annually .,, ... ,,, ... 44)> Kcfi'i'unci; to Maynard'.s and Hryant's Iteport as to habits of seals supports Cauadiau (contention ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 446 Cnniidian (jovcrnnient contends few females in calf ever taken in sua ... ... 440 Afore foinides in a bord than males ... ... ... ... ... 446 Cuimdiini contention Hn]iport(!(l bj- following facts: (1) .seals on rookeries still increasing;; (2) old Imlls go into water at end of ruttiny season and do not return to islands — < 'laik on nudes driving,' others oil'; (o) two-thirds of males not jiermitted to laud at rookeries — occa.sional visits to land — yearlinj;s arrive middle .Inly— non-1 ireeding male seals ecjual breeding seals (1,500,000) — baclielors not lonj,' on shore — fenial(>s do not feed until younj; go into water ... 446 llnlk of s(Mds coidiiu'd to island until ice surrounds islands ... ... ... 447 Never eat until (h^parture (see Mr. Mclntvrii'a Report, p. 448)... ... ... 447 Hidls jircvent mothers takiiij,' to water ... ... ... ... ... 447 Rookeries full to duly 25, and remain in limits ... ... ... ... 447 No seals sick or dying on islands ... ... ... ... ... ... 447 Canadian contention sn]>porte(l by Keport on International Fisheries Exhibition (boiulon, 1883) — Nature has imposed a limit to their destruction ... ... 447 Mr. Klliott, in 1874, agrees with tlio abov(! contention — the e(|uilibriuni of life regulat(ul . . . ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 447 Seals get their fish in North Pacific ... • ... ... ... ... 447 Mr. Mclntyre's Keport as to haliits of seals, 18G9 ... ... ... ... 448 Seals take no food \intil their departure from i.slands in November ... ... 448 Tiu! duty of (lovernment to patrol islands— Mr. Tingle in 188(> asks for cutters to patrol islands — Mr. Jlorgan recommends launebes — Mr. Wardman alludes to inade(iuacy of protection to islands ... ... ... ... ... 448 Mr. Williams points out insutliciency of protection to islands ... ... ... 448 Mr. Tayhn- says, in 1881, the difliculty arises from the want of better protection — Mr. Glidden agrees ... ... ... ... ... ... 448 Mr. IJoutwell, Secretary of the Trtcasury, in 1870, conceived the duty of the Govern- ment was to elliciently guard " in and arcamd the islands " ... ... 448 The interests on behalf of a monopoly cau.se divergent \'iews respecting the protection of seals ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 449 Mr. Bryant shows the value of the lease in conferring a monopoly — Mr. Moore illustrates this ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 449 When the Company took less than 100,000 seals it did so because the market did not demand th(!m ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 449 Mr. Mclntyre shows that 800,000 wore onco thrown into the sea as worthless when the market was glutted ... ... ... ... ... ... 450 KiUer-whales and sharks the enemies of seals ... ... ... ... 450 Man's assaults at s('a snuill in comparison to the natural enemies of the seal ... 450 Canadian system of hunting ... ... ... ... ... ... 450 Mr. Elliott shows that if temporary diminution does occur on the Islands of St. Paul and St. George, the missing seals are probably on the Russian islands ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 450 • i Mr. Tupper to Sir J. Pauncefote. Deav Sir Julian, The Arlington, Washington, March 8, 1890. I liavo th(! honour to inclose herewith a Memorandum pi*epared by me in reply to the Memorandum sent to you by Mr. Blaine, and which you handed to me upon the 3rd instant. I send you a copy for yourself, one for Mr. Blaine, and one for M. de Struve, the Russian Ambassador. I also have the lionour to forward herewith a valuable paper upon the subject, prepared hurriedly by the Assistant Director of the Geological Survey of Canada, George Dawson, D.S.. f.G.S., P.R.S.C, F.R M.S. I may add that Dr. Dawson was in charge of the Yukon Expedition in 1887. Copies of his paper are also inclosed for Mr. Blaine and M. de Struve. I am, &c. (Signed) CHARLES H. TUPPER. [128] 3 K 2 486 Memorandum on Mr. JUaine'n Letltr to Sir Jitliitn Pnunre/nli', ilated March 1, 1800, 111 tlic A|i|M'iiilix In Ml'. IHiiiiic's Icltcv III' tlic ImI MiuiIi, cm ilic tliiiil \Mm\ Ih mi oxtrnct, fmuj n lti'|Hii't Id the lliMisi' III lt(>|in'Hi!iiliilivi'M, iis Ciillnw.s : ■ " ill rormrr yiuiri fur-nriili won fnuiiil tn Rrriit nuinlH>rii iin varlimi inliindii of tlui South PftriAr Oi'uiii, hilt ariiir ii I'liiiifiikriititi'lt •hurt iirrliiil iif Iniliairmilimti' ulniiKhter thn riiiilirrlr<i wirii ilrirrtril, thn uiiiniain hating lioi'ii killrtl nr ilrlvin rnim thrlr hiiuiili," Wliili' il JH ailiiiilli'il lliiit iiiili.srriiiiiiiiitii Mliiiif^lili'is ii|iiiii llii^ I'unldirii'H iii'i> iiin.sl, injiirii'iis to tln' iiiuiiilriiiiii I'nijI IiI'ii, it in ilciiii'il lliiil in llii' liislnry nl' tlii' I'lir-Ni'iil iiidiiNtrv iiiiy iii.staiiii! uiii U I'lillliil wlirii' II niiiktiry Iium rvrr Imtii ili'sllnyctl, iliiplrlrd, nr rvrli iiijuri'il liy llii' killing; ol' snils ut jcj only. Mr. I'llliolt, will) i.s i|iiiili'il liy Mr. Itliiiiiii, nilliiilM lliiil. llm i'niilii'i'ii>.4 in lliii Sniilli I'lirilir willmiiKiii iitliirk.s 111' till' iiin.sl, c.Nli'iisivti iiiid ili'slniclivc rlmniilrr I'nr Iwi'iily ynirs, wlicii yniiii'4 iinil njij miili., iiiiii I'l'iiiiilrH wi'ii' iiiiiisiiiiiiiiiiili'ly kiinrki'il nil tlii^ liriiil ii|inii llirir liri'iMliiiL;;.;rniiiiils ; iiiiil Ml. Clark {II. I! Uc|iiiil Nn, ;l.SH;t, fidlli CniinrcsH, liiiil Srs.Minii, |i. '.M) li'ils um tliiil, in IHJII lliirly vc,s,'<i.|s mi i|,, iHliiiiils (Siiiilli Sliiilliiiuls) tiink ill II li'w wi'i'k.s jriii.iiiM) Hkiii.s, wliilr tliniisiiinlM wnii killcil iiml ImhI. In ISUI mill IH1.''J, li'Jli.iliM) .skiii.s wi'ii' tiiki'ii, miil I.Mi.oilO ymiiii^ sciiLs ili'stioynl. Nuiii' nl' tlirsi' islimili linwi'VL'r, wiTi' rvi'i' ririiiii'iili'il l>y llu^ iiiillinii.s wliirli Imvi' lircii rniiiiil nil llii' riiliylnv ;;i'iiii|i I'lir dvir twi'iity yi'iii.'- " 'riii'Hi' iHlaiiiU I'niiititutr till' iiiomI valtiiilile ruoki'ry iir l)ri-i'(liii|{-|iliii'ii iit' Mk'hr ariiliiuU i'Vit kn>)wii lii iiiiin," (II. It, Ucpiirt ;tHN;i, .'iillli (.'inijri'si, |i|i. Ill, II:', lliin, ('. A, Willliiinn' writti'ii uliiti'iiirnl,) l'rnl'(>.SHiii' Klliotl (ill lii.s I'vidoiirr, p. ML!) iiii'liliniis niii' |ii'i'Hnu who, wlirli willi liiiii nl llii' isliiud>, I'sliiimttnl llic iiiiiiilirr iit l(i,i)lM),(lOII. 'i'lii' 111 |inri 111' 111!' ('nii;,'irssiiiiiiil ( 'niiiiiiilti'i' nil tlui Aliinkii sunl liHluirid.i Htiit(!S tlmt iiiiiisdiiiiiiiiutt .slini^;litrr in llii' cmly |iml. nl' tiic iiiiii'Iri'iitli ii'iiliny itmiu'd ii dc.'irrliiiii nt' tin' rimkcrics, iiihI il ;,'iii'siiii tn .siiy tliiil ill ISlill mill IHlil, .'i(l(l,()()(l v.cii' liikrii in mi iiidisi'iiiniiintc! I'li.Mliinii iil tlii' Sniilli ."^lii'lliinils, nild, III Uir riid nl' tin' .Hrriiiul year, tlii' .sjH'rii'i hnd llirix^ Ihtii alnin.sl rxti'miinatfil. 'I'lic llmiiuiralili' ('. A. Willinins. wlmsi' i'\ nliiiii' is citnl and ri'lii'd iipnii iiy Mr. Illiiiiic, sn|j|iiiit,s this vii'W (sit p. Ill, II. 1(. Iii'pnrl Nn. ilSS.'i, "illlli ('i)Iij,'|i'Sm) ; lull, as a inaltrr nl' t'lirt, wliili' .snils iiri: adniilli'dly nut .sn jili'iitil'iil in Smitli Slu'tlainls as lii'ii'lnrmi', nwiii^' In wlinli'sulr drMtnii'linii mi tlu' liri'i'diiij;-u'iniinils, sn piiililic aro tlicy llial. in 1.S72, .S,(l(l(l skiiiM nl' " llii' rlmiresl mid riclirst i|iiiility wi'M' nlilaiiii'd I'rniii tlii'si' islands. In tin- iii'.vl si'asnn In.OOd skins woii' taki'ii llu'ic, mid in 1M74, 10,(11111 skins, anil liniu 1S7II In l,S,S()||u' .si'idili;,' llri'l lirniijilit linliiii 'X2,7'){> I'lii-srnl skins I'mni (lii> .Sniitli Sjii'tlmuls, and llii' virinily nl' Capo llnni and 'rii'ira dii l''iii't,'o." (A. Hnwanl Clark, p. 'lOli, ( 'uiniiiission of Kislii'iii's, {•'islicry Indiislrii's I'liitnl .Stall's, siM'tinn .'i, vnl. ii, 1H87.) In tins ri'^^aid, it may IiithIi! iinlril lliat lliis I'xlrarl rcl't'is niily In tlic i atrli nl scalers wliicli lilted nut at New I,niii|iiii, (Jniiiieiliiul, iiiid lines iinl eiiiliraee the npei'iitions iif sealers I'rnni other eniiiitries. ■Mr. Claik ilescrihes the iiiaiiiier in which the seals at Mas-ii-Kiicra were attacked. At p. 407 ul tlio article ahnvc cited he points mil thai lietwccii the years 17'.IM and ISl(7, ;i,nOII,l)0() seals wore ol'tiiiiicd I'miii this island liy Kn,i;lis!i and Aiueriean vessels, miii in ISL'I the island was " (ilmnil iihaiidniicd hy these miiiiials." Mr. Clark also shnws that in 17'.l7 tiicie were niily l!,()00,(lll() nn tliv islands, and .\i'l in seven years more tlimi ;!,(IU(1,II(M) were carried I'lnm the islands In (J.mtnii, Cliiim. Mentinii is made, loo, of i'oiirtcen shi]is' crews on the island at one time killin,!.,' .seals. Al p. -liJ.s iiieiitinii is made nl I'roiii twelve tn lil'tcen crews on slinre. at the same time (Ainericiiii and l'!ii;ilisli), ami that "there were eniistantly more or less nl' sliiii.s' crows slatioiicil hero I'nr llio piiriio.so of t:ikin^' fur-seals' skins," I'loiii 17'.';) to l'S07. It is contended hy tlio Canadian (iovcriimoiit that a reference tn the liislnry of this isliimi u entirelv lieside the oonteiilion nii the part of the riiiteil Slates that il is necessary to kee]) sealing,' emit hundreds of miles away from rookeries in order to incservo the seal life on the. liieediiii,'-i,'rouiiils. The cause of injury is the siiiuo in all llio cases iiienlioiied, and Mr. Chiiiiel, in tlio Aiipciiilix 1" Mr. lUuine'-s letter, now iiiuler cnnsideratioii, at p. ."i well says : — ■ " It is stHtiil that ut the Shflliiiuls alone [which iievi-r t'i[uall(>,l the |irraciit conilitiiui of llu' I'riliylov Krniip, nu'ntinnnl Iiy Ihtn. C. A. \N illiams. alri'iuly i|uult:il], 100,1)110 per aiimnn iiiinlit liavii hi-en iihtiiiiii'il luiil the ronki'ries iircservcil il* tiitii'ii iiiiiU-r |iro|ii;r rcstrirtions ; hut, in thi> eaffi'mess of iiii'li, old anil youiiK malt' anil fi>male tn'iiU wcri' kilk'd, iiiiil liltle pups a few days oh), ilcprivoj of their niottiers, died hy thouHnnils on the heaclies " — [it tiiiiy here he observed that not a easu of dead pup.s was ever found on tlie Prihylov group, so far as the Reports im the islands showj — " earca.. -8 and hones strewed on llie shores.*' This statement, cited in the United States' Case, is direct nutliority for the (.'anadian cuiiteiitloii. It illustrates three important [loinl.s : — 1. That indiscriininiilc slaughter on the breeding-f^rouiuls is injurious and in time destructive. 2. That when the mothers iiro killed, the young pups, dyinjj; in conseiiueuee, are found on tlie islaiul. 3. That licgnlations of the number to he killed on the islaiul, with careful supervision, will maintain the rookeries indopeiiileutly of prohibiting sealing in the waters. The Heport of the House of Kepresentatives states : — "The only e.'cisting rookeries are those in Alaska, anotlier in the Russian part of Behring's Sea, and a third on Lohos Islarnl, at the mouth of the Uiver I'late, in South Amerieu." The statement is incorrect. Important omissions occur, since the cases left out, when examined, show that, notwithstanding all of the extraordinary and indiscriminate slaughter of past years, it is possible, by careful supervision of the rookeries alone, and of the seals while on laud, to revive, restore, and maintain lucrative rookeries. Quoting from an extract from a Kussian Memorandum respecting the hunting of seals, commuiii- Ill iimii." (11, B, inn contention, Dn Ldbus JslaDil, at 487 latiil liy M <1" Htaiil to tlio Miii'i|iiiM nP SaliHlmiy, uml liuti'il ilii; 2.'lh July, 1888, it in found that other roiikcrii"' um! Iiy ii'> inciiiis lUiMcitcii, Tlio cxlnict rcails nn Idllowi*; — • 'Xtin |iliH-t>i whrrn fiir'Hcal hunting in okrrieil nii rimy b*^ iliviili-il lit Iwii ilistini't f<r'>iil>A< The flritC smup would (-oin)iriM MhiliK IiI»imI>, IHiriiiK'ii Sin, lOII/IOH hilli-it In IHH.'i ; CiiiiiiiiandiT Itlamlii (lleliriliK and C'op|Mir lllandi, 4'i,>ll|ll; Heal liUndii mhottk **'".<•"""' 1 '"'"I. MK.IIIPI). • 'Ilif ii<riind KriKil'i ^'>fi msi ntiar (tm coiit of Vii'toria, 20,000) li'ibim liUnda. 15,000 t Ulanda ni-ar Capo Horn and tho Sooth Mir Xi'ii, 10,1100 I inliindii liiliiiiniiig to Jajiaii, 7,000 ; Cajii' iif (iimd lli>|ii', .'>,flOO ; liital, 57,000." All iin|Mirtiuit (!iiii.4sii)n i.s tliu ciimi (if (.'iipi! iil" (Jocid Hope, in rcfiiii.'iico to whiiili tliii (,'ominittce of ll„. Iliiii.iii III' Urpriwcntativit.H, jiri'virm.s to tlicir Itipcirl, hail Iwcn inloiiiiiMl (huo If, ]!, iJipfnl Nu. .'(883, ,5iltli CiiiiLtri'm, 1'imI .*•' sMJiin, ]>. I 11) that I'loni lliu ('(i/ir n/ (IihkI, llnin iHlamlH, uikIit pKiliTtion of tl'9 (,'aiM) (liiviiiinKint, a yearly .Miipply of ."i.OiMI to H,()(l() skiii.s i,s tli'iivcil, iind tliiit froiii .lapaii, it win utatwl, miiiit'tiiiicH I."i,(JO<) and Honielinics ri,(MM) n-yi'ar mv recnivitd. The.so i,sland.s arc now ri^^idly The.so i,sland.s arc now at neitlicr docs liic (ioviTiiniciit raciiivi;! Iiriildcli'il I'V 'la' <>ovi'riini(ait,-< of tlio countries to wliicli Ilii'V licloii;,' ol till' <'ii|ii'. "I dapan, nor of lJni;^iiay, in tlii) cam; of tlio I,olio.s iMliirids, consider it necessary to demand the irstriilion of the piirnnit oi' Meals in the open sea. Uiiitel Statea' vcs.scls have viHJIcd lliii iHhindH oil' the (,'apc of (lood Ifnpo from 1800 to lS3."i, and liiivi^ liikni lai .Monie ilay,s ."lOO to 7<ll) skins, Heciirinj; .several thoiisaiid.s of .skins annually. In IS'JO I'liptiiiii (liirdon I/. Allyii, of (Jalc's Fcny, ConiKwticiit, mentions lindiiiL! 1,001) (.ureases of si ,ils at one „| till! islands, the skins of which had hecii taken. He Iaiidc(l and look seul.s in considerable nntnbcra. He Hii.s ii^'ain on ii scidin;,' voyaoii on this coast in IMIif, mid shot seals on the rookeries. Ill I8JH a pliii,'iie visited tlioso rookeri(^s, and rill(),IIOO seals |iciisiied durini; the idajjiie ((Jlark in the Itcpoit of the I'nitiMl .States' (JommiHsion of Fish and Fisheries, 1887, section o, vol, ii, pji. 415, 416), anil yet to-day we tiiid a reiKiVval of the industry hy Uuyulationa apjilied so/t/y to tho ro<jkurit'S, anil '-.rrliixirr of the deeji-sca ojKirations. rpoii p. 7 of the y\]ipeiidix now under review, the Itejiort of the Congressional Coinmiltec on iVliwka seal lisheries refers to testimony of United .Stiites' (iovcriiment Agent.s rei^ardiii<,' tin; niimlier of seals shot and not secured, and a calculation is referred to, to the ett'ect that one in every seven is alonn secured hy the hunter who follows seals on the sea. The e.xperieiice of Canadian liiiiiters in ilirectly oppo.sed to this theory, and shows that ii lo,ss of li ju'r cent, is all that ever takes place, wiiilo Imlinii hunters seldom lose one. SoliMiin declarations |i this effect have biien made under the. ( ■aiiadian Sliitute lelaliii" to e.\tra-judicial oaths. In coiilirmation of this, reference may bo had to .Mr. II. W. Elliott, in the United States' Fish C'oiiimi,ssion(!r'.s Keport, vol. ii, section 5, p. 4811, where hi( says: — "Till' Aleuts fire n'- the otter at 1,000 yiird» ranfje, and llmt, whf. hit in the liciid, nine timea nut often the uliiit in fatal." In the case of hiiiilino the seals, the practice of the white hunters, all expert shots, if to ]iaddIo up to the seal while aslee[i in the water, shoot it in the head, and at once haul it into the lioat ; while the Iniliiins approach it in a caiioi! ami sjiear the seal, tiie head of the spear separating itself and being attiiclici' 1,1) a rope liy which the .seal is dra;,'ged into the canoe. lieferenee is uiiide on p. 4 of the Ajijieiidix to .Mr. Illuiiie's letter to the limitation.s in tho lease of 1870. Tiicse conditions, it is contended, are most inconsistent with the priisiMit view of the United Stntes reganling the danger to the preservation of seal life. With respect to this tho following facts .ihould lie carefully noted: — 1, I'p lo 1802 no Law in I'lUssia e.xisted ]iroliibitiiig or forbidding the killing of seals, and in that ycariin iiio[ierative Law was promulgated (.'^oe IJussian Memorandum, M. do Staal to Lord .Salisbury, iijth.luly, 1888.) Jlr, Mclnlyro, a .Special Agent of tin Treasury Department (II. 1!. Ex. IJoc. \o. 'U>, 41st Cougre.s.s, 2ml .Ses.sioii, p. IS), records the catch taken from the I'ribylov Islands under the I iussian- American Company, as follows : — Taiilk showing the Number of Fur-seals taken hy the Russians on St. Paul and St. George Islands from 1817 to 1 800. eals, commuiii- rt Approximative. I ,' ■i;« ^n m \Bm RofiMTinj; In lliis Tnlilc. Mr. McTiit3T(! says: — '• Tliu iiumhiT of jTiiU I II St. Vi\\\\ I^Iiniil in viirimisly cHlimntoil iit frniii ;l, 000, 000 to t.Otl 1,000. inirlmli'ii; nil . i hsi-li. iuirl „„ ,*^l. firorsi' at ahiiiit iirir-thinl n* iimiiy. I think it miiy l)i' ftiit-'ly Htiit.'ii tliiit lliprc iirc iiiit Ii-hs tiinti 4,0l)0,ttlltl on tin- two itl^n't, 'rill* Tiiiilo fniin till' rrronli* of tin' Into [tii-ifinii-^miTii'iiii t'otiipmu', apppiitli'il to tiiis llnport, pxltiltilM ilii' iiiiml)or i)f wjiU tiiltf-n f,,^ ivu'h islnnd frmn Hi; t-> lH;t7, ami iVuni ISl'.i to IStift, I'n-vioiiHly to IM17, (nys tin- lute IIihiioji Vciiiiiiiitiiitr, 00 ri*i-urils wprn Vt\H Kroio (lie oi»!ot' lottlmnty \vi> li'iini thtit (iMriiin; ll'P t^rdt li'iv yi'nr« ffillnwinv tlip ilisi'iivorr of the )HttiiNl<4 in I7H1 ovpr lt)fl,fll)li i^i„^ w:to iiiiiuially olititini'ii ; h' this, it ;■ i in^, whs toi. Ucffp ii nunihrr. for tlio dcrrcftHr to tho vrarly r-'turii was I'oniitartt until \)^^'l whrn thry hail Itcconu' luMirly cxlilirt ; anil in Ilii- iicvt ilfra.lr tlii- wlioh- nunihrr s irril 'vas 1J'.I,17H. licinij in IH.'i'J Inn ti,.*,)li ; but tfiiiii IH I'J. iiniliT iuiiirioo-i inaiiiiitriiii'nl, t'liTi' a|iprarM to liiivi' tii-on an inrn'nsr, and in IS.'iH, lil.HI't wi-n- I iki-n, wliii-h w;ii ijic |ariff,[ rt;lfh in iiov inio yi'ur, until IHti7, wlii'ii, iih I iiiii iiifornird. sonif H0,tlt)0 or 10tl,t)tlO wcrr jiPi'llrfil, lunlpr the sn|ipo>»iti'iii tint tlit li'iritory woiilil hooii Im tr:m»t'i-'rii'ii to tin' Unili'd .Stili's, ' Tho diTrrasc from 1H17 to IHIIH,' sayii Itishop Vi'iiianiiintr, ■ iinT.ii(i,j aliout oni'-i'iiilit'i of the vvliolc iinniljiT ;iiiiiitiilly, HO tliiit in IH.U thrriMvrri' producrti on liotli isliniilR, inntciid of tit>,tmii tn Ht),0()(), only lri,7,''l, and in 1S.'17, l'.Sll2.' r'ntiii tlu- most rrii'i't'iil i-oinpittitlion I liavp hi'ini ahio ti; inalti', I uoi of tin- opinion tliiit im i^-^j^ lliiin li)0.0iitt---7." iMKi on St. rniil loid 2.*t,oOtt on St. (ifornr — I'rtn hi' iinimally tiiki'ii nritlnut iiuMirriiu: tlui risk of iiniiin ilmiiniibini; till' vcarlv prodniiion. iis wo oIimtv thr Ku'.si'inn to liiixr dono in fornirr yoars.** St'i' ulsii Wicl;, ('liicl' nf l,iiiiil Sfi'vii'i', IJiissiim-;Vim>rii'aii 'Mi'vjiuiili H.NjR'i.lilioii, wIki i'i'|jiii'|(.i1 ji, 1<'<I)8 on tiiiiliiiiiiiislicil t'oiulitiim nf llic si'al li^licpy. (II. lI. I'',.\. Dnr. Xo. 1.77, 4(ltli I 'iii|ir|-,,<, 2iicl Ntwsiiiii.) >>i,\ iniliiou snils hull lu'cii dikfii (Vniii litis ,m'ii lii'lwi't'U I !~IH anil IHTD. (I'idf Dull iiii " .\|iisl<;i mill il.s Kcsmiiri'-i." 1 ST", |i. 4'.ll-'.) '.', ill i.'^liS irtllrliiiisiiii iiiiu Miir;,':iii, tlif |iriiliiiili'rs iiiiil l'niiiiili'i','< iif liui Aiiiskii ('iiiii?in,||.i.il <"iiiii)i;iiiy, iiiul iil'li'i'wiii'ils ifs.'ii'i's of (lii' iHliiinls. .siiw (' ,tt, iiiiIi'SH ri'Nli'ii'lioiis wcni iiii|io,'if(l h/wh ///,- isliinih, tluMi' wnnlil lit' niiii In l.iiiM'oolvi'rit'.s (II. \V. j'liliott, " Our .\ri'lir rroviiii'i'," ip|i. -17, 24Hi; i'iin,><('i|tii'iitly. liy .Vol of ('oiiun^ss ii]i]iiov('il lln' 27tii ■July, IHIiS. tin," killing; of fiir-st'iils im lliv i.ihnuli «,is pnihiliiii'il (\V. II. Mi'liilyri', S|ii'i'i,il y\i,'i'iit, 'rii'tisiiry DcjuirtiiK^iit, II. I!. K.\. Dot'. Xn. ,%, ■ll.'^l (.'iiii'.4r('s.s, :;ii(l ."^I'ssiini, ]i, IL'). N'otwitli.sliniiliiij; Ihc Aot to wliii'li ri^l'cii'iico Im.s ln'iii iii;i,||,, riO,!!!!!) \vi I'l' kiilcii on SI. (iui)f^;i' mill 1,")I),0(I0 mi ,St. rmil liv triuk'r.s in ISCiS rnall, ]i. 41111), lOO.OIIII in ISnO {\V. U. Miliityii', II, I!. Kx. Doc, No, :!('., 4I.sl Con^'n'ss, ],. V.\). Afr \Viniiiiiiiii, ,111 .\i,'t'nt of tlio Unilcil SliiUw' Ticn.snry iit tliii Si'nl Isliuuls, in liis 'Triiitii .\litskn," |MiIiIislu'il 1HS4, on |i. ',)2, siky.s : — " (ii'in'ml on!iIauKlii. thrrati'iiini* fXt(.rininiition, hy Ainorii'in Tossrl* durini; tlii' intorri-fniuni of dppartnrp of Kimiii.'iii m,,] installtttion of United Htat- %' (Jovtrnmi'ntu took pliu'i." .Ami till' -.111111' otlirrr, ill liis sworn tcslimoiiv uivcn lit't'ori' llii' ('i)iiu'ii'ssiiiniil Coininitlfi', sinipd lliiU MOn.tlDO woii' killcil in ISIV,). ;■!, NoiwitlisUiiKlino; this roiuliiion i>r iill'airs, .''^ci'irtiiiT Uoiitwi'll rfjiorU'tl in l.H7(l (II. K. l'',\, lim, No, 12',), ]), 2, 41sl ('iiiio;n's.'f, L'liil Sis»ion) lliiil " if tliu iininiiils iii'O ]iioIi'('Iih1, it i,s in'olmlilo lliiit ulinui UH),tlt)tl skins niiiy ln' Uikon carh yiMir wifhonl iliniiiiisliin;,' tlii; su|i|ily," tfiiil I'liit " nirut c»\v. wa,< iieri'ssiiiT for Uio invsi'i'>'iitiim of liio si'iil tisliorii's iipmi llir T.tlanils o/ S/. /'aid auil M. Gcnri/i:" So Dull, in his look on Aliiskii (lf<7(l, p, 4',t'i\ in rffoning to ,sliiunlili'r hy Uussimts, liclinvcil tlmt IlKI sciils coiilil HiilV'ly ho killi'il nniiniilly ninlor Ktigulations, anil Mr. IMaint;, in iiia dcsimlili luiSii ,,< !>.,i,.,,..,f.,t,. ,>(■ ii,..' 'JTii. r.,,.i. .,...■ u,,, .,", Ir.liiin I'iiiiiu'cl'ot.c of ihc 27lii .hvniuiry, wiys;- II " In thi' iiMirsi' of a fow yvHn of intelligi'nt and intiTPSting I'.xpi'riment tho liiinihoi that I'oulU bu ■tafi-ly ilaUKhti-nd wiis tixriiat 100,0110 pi'r annum," .Mr, lioiil.wi'll, as will he seen on rt'l'i'i't'iici' to lii.s liuiiort, was ojiposi'il to a Ifiiso, iinii ii'iiiaiki'il I hat u was ni'ii'ssiiry in any nvt'iil to niaiiiliiin in mul arounil tho isliuuls an onlargi'il iia\iil rniri.' I'nr tlio )iriili'ilioii of till' sanio. This Uojiort was foUowoil liy tho lo^jisliition iiiulor wliii'h a Inisc wns t'xoi'iitoil in May 1,^70, 4, 111 ilrawinu tho tonus of tho loaso iintl lioijiilations ooncoriiini; tho ishiiuls tho liiitoil Sliiti'.< )iorinitli .1, in llio llion stato of atliiirs, tho los.soos to tako 100,000 souls i.-yo,ir for twonly yoiii.'*, iiiid tlioy woro )ii'iiiii!loil In make u]i 'l,is nninhor Ironi any iiialo seals of 1 yoi'v of a.t;o or over, 5. Tho nalivi's woro llowoil to iloslroy on tho islainls pnji seals of oilnor sox for I'ooil, iiiiitilifiii.; in some years ,1,1 lO", I), 'i'lio lllll,tU)0 ooiilil hi' killoil hy the lessees in tlio iiionths of .,iiiio, .Fiily, Soiiloiiilii'i, iiiul O:'tohor, F)ioii p. S of till' .\p]ieiiili\ to Mr, liliiine's note the o])iiiion i f tlu^ C'dniniitteo of llnii.'^i' of 1\ ■iirosonlativos is L;ivon to the olt'oi'l that the jirotoetion of tho islanils is not onoii^^'li, Imt that the si;als nnisl hu ]iroteotoil in their iinimal niij;ratioiis to iiiul from tho rookerio-*, tiiul for 50 miles soutli-oiL'^t of tho I'ookori's to their foeiliti;i-,i;idinKls, This is a far lUnoront pro]io,'-al from that anhmitteil hy tin' Soeroliiry of State, sini o it iloos not omhraeo tho wliole of tho liohriiif^'s Soa, but loeatos llio IVwliiig- iirimuds, so ralloil, within ."iO inik's of tho is'.antks, rite other points, on p, S of the .Viipemlix to Mr, Illaino's letter to S.r .ruh'an I'ininet'ote of the ont install'., need lianlly ho iloait with in diseussinf,' tho necessity lor a ehiso ,soason, rofereiioe bi'iu]; made thoioin to ilu? sortinj; of tho herd for killiii": on land so as not to kill tho fonmles. This is admittedly wise, tiiiieo the killino; is tlone Hth June when tho pups are hein^; tlrop]iO(l, The rest of p, S of Mr, liliiino's Monioriindnm raises tho point, that a seal is not a tish, St) on p, !l testimony is oiled toiuhiii^j; tho noeossity ha' not killing females on the rookuries, when wholosrtlo slaii,L,'litei- of 100,000 a-year goes on, ami this is not liort; eontrovortod. The opinion of .Mr. ('iliildeii, whose exporionto was oonlined to the hiuil (i^tvu^/od-s, roi,'ardini,' the pro]iortioii uf ,sciiLs roe^ivorod when shot in tloep si n, eannot he of weif,'ht. It is, therefiro, iiniiooos.siiry to dwell upon the faei that he is a (ioveniiiiout uniployo, giving his views in ftivonr of his (Jovernment's eoiitoiilinii ill !8f- (, after the Seizures of 188,') had taken jilaeo. Tliis ollieer was on St, (ioorgo Island fnnii the !.'.'■'' ii May to .August in 18S] oiir'. His opinion that an "open jioliiy" would not preserve the viiliU' c (»f KiiMJan nrid nmillcp, stiitod ;Iitfn il wii-j tixcil at 489 „l tli(! si'iil flHlieriuH, and timt it in iiece.ssiiiT t(i inotci'l tin' Hi'iils in li(iliriii>,''H Sra, as well nn im tlin j,l;iiuls, is Kill. liaWMl ii]joii iiiiich imintical kiiowlcilj^'r. Ili' rurlliiT statiMl tlnd, nul iiiii>'li liiiiiliiig was jiiiiein llii' I'acilic. II iiiralil(! Air. AVilliaiiiH, at p. 1U7 of Eviduiicc heloH! tli(^ fcm^^'icssioual ('(niiiiiittci', says; — "Tlir<*' miles brytiiiil Iniul (in Piwifii-) jroi^do nut hi'c tiinii ; wIii'im lliey K" "'» one knows." Tlic liiitisli ('oliiniliiuii Scully's anil llio ri^iord nf liii.-ii' ciilclii's in the I'aoilir lor twenty yiMirs wciiki'iis ll]i' sliiiidiipi; (if tliitsc, witnfs.scs an i!.v|ier(.s. Mr. 'I'iiylnr, andliicr witness, lu'crilies to tlie fislj ut I!itliriiij,''.s Sea a vi;rv liij,'li nrdrr nl iMielljiii'iiee. ||i, ,|(.|ins{'S lliat ill i'ii!lnin.',''s .sen tlie seals eat n ;,'reat many (isli every I weiily-rmir leans, and .'is "till! li.di liii\e lieriiine W(!ll aware iil' the I'aet that tiierit is a yond many seals (in thi' Sen! Islands, Ihey kettp Uriiiil 1(1 .sea." Jle. slands ahaa^ in testily in;.; S(i |i(isilively Id what ean, at liesl, he a uiatt('.i' for i.,iiiiirlai(', and he tails In show la; had the sli^'hlesl niean.s (if asijerlaininfi this l<n(iwlell^^e. He larlher ^tatt'il Ihat the linlls remain on the islands all .snnimer. This is (•( ml ra( Meted hy writers aial otle'i' United .States' witiK'S.ses.as will he seen hereallei-. It is, tlKicl'iire, eviihmt that this ^jenth^man wa.s ttistifyini,' sini|ily to his (iwn pee.nliar theories i-e,!,';iri]in,n seal life ujiiiM very limile(l experiei Jl(! says, at one iilaei\ that while the eows are, ont (and Ihey k". lie tell- ns, 10 III lo miles, and (iVeii farther; the sealers (;at(lj tiieiii ; while, al, another ])laee, la; sliitc's ;- "Tiir MM i> lihi(;k with tlif.iii arfittti't //ir iilnndt, when* they pick up ;i ^miii iiiiiny «itiI. iitiil //I'Tf in ir/in-r //"■ t^itliiu/ of rtitvn i^irn—ir/tfu llKif 1/11 anU'iri-.^' Sii thill ( '(IcMilly, he may have .seen eows killed Nvhen arniiiid tin UIuihIh, the only \i\;wm at whi(;h lie ii|i]inreHll> ':inld ohserve them, and Ik' has men^ly eonjeetnri'd the dislaia:(! thai tla^y i,'n I'roiii laiul anil the Niimhei aetnally shot in dee]i water. This wilness " thiidvs then! is .some dania^'e dune in killiiif,' and shooting; of the eows and h^avin^ <iiiii;iiiv yoan;; uiihniit their mothers." Ther(3 woidd he less donlit respeetinj,' the ('(iwh heinj; shot or lust if i( was siitisl'aelorily shown that lar^;e, nninliiu's of yonnj; jiniw were fonnd dead in the rookeries. Till' witness, if alile, wonid havi; certainly p(jinted to this. The reverse, iiowever, is the fact; and, willi the e\e(!|ilion of one wilia-ss lieforo the (,'on^'iessional Comnutteu, whose evideiiee will he examined a^'iiiii. nol an .\^ent of the (iovernmont nor a writer i^ver stated that pn|is were fnnnd dead in .any iraiiiliers nil the islands from loss of mothers ; the faet heinj:; that neithers never •"> fur fiom their voiin;; anlil the yonii;; are well ahle, to care for themselves. This witness, notwith.standiiii; his 'ilhisinii 111 supposed ilania;,'e liy the killing; of mothers, the killing' of eows liy ves.sels in shun — whore thu sea is lilaek with Ihein — had to admit, "the niiinher of .seal, in the ai,'gre},'ale, i.s not apparently iliiiiiliisheil." His knowledge is eonliiieil to one year ("l.SHl), and we have better and r,nilis|mte(l li's'iniiiiiv that liiii'j; after this a ;.,'reat inereftse had takiMi pla(;e — -an increase of millions. .Mr. 'I'aylor, il ^liiMild lie observed, however, gave other testimony than that ipioted by ,Mr. lilaine. He .sail' that— '•Tlii'^i' prcilnlory vc^srls uri' ^enerHlly there (in Behrini^'s .^en) in Ihe Rpring of the yenr, when the (miwd are gning t-i the i-^lnnd Id breetl ; llKist nf the heals thiit are killed hy these lii.inimiin;; VCKSI'U iii'e iM)iv.s with yinitii;." lie estimates the number taken in IHHl at from u.UUU to 8,1)00. "These \i.«sels will take eiTiiBiiin to hang around Ihe islands, and when there is a heavy foi; to qo on the roukerie.s very often." The chief damage, according to Mr. Taylor, i.s not the killing of mothers out at sea when their viiuii;4 are on shore deiiending ii|)(m the return of tlicir iiiuthirs, as is contended, but it is due, he .says, 111 the insallieioiit ]ii'iileetioii of the island. This can, as will be jiointed out, be riiiiedied if the >ii^.L:i'sliiiiis of (ioveriiinenl Agents are nelud ujhjii in tlie lino of Ir.itter police guarding of tlii! leokel'ies. Mr. \Villiains' testimony is next referred to on ]). 10 of the Apjieiidix to Mr. lilaine's letter. TliLs ;:eiillemaii was engaged in '.he whiiling business for forty years (p. 7.'! of Kvidence before (.'ongressiol.al riiiiiiiHltce). As regard.-' fur-seals, his knowh^ige is not based u|ion experience, but " from reaili.ig ami til nil conversation with my captains" (]>. T^j). lie was called by reiputst of attorney for the .VLiskii Ciimmercial (.'ompaiiy. of which Mr. VVilliam.s was a .stockhuhler. Nil imporlance, it is siibmitleil, can be altacheil to his testimony I'egarding the lialiits and nature "1 llie seal afler such a frank coni'e.ssi(Ui. His evidence llial females in puj) mass together in the .sea liefnre landing may therefore be ilisniisseil, since he does not produci- any authority for a statement which is contradicted by expert tL'Sliiiiiiny. Xeilher in his statement tlail hunters admit that out of eigut shots they winild save one sfal mily correct. (In p|). I I .ind I 'J of the A)ipendix Mr. \\ illiams naturally gives his view fur Imliling the conlnil I'Vpr seal life in I'lehring's Sea. Il is iml denied that every les.seu of the I'ribylov group would agree I'litiiely with him in ihis. It may he remarked that he does not share the llieiuy of the I'liited States 'liiit (he chief danger lies in killing the nintheis when out in the deep .sea for food, having left their lausliiigs on shore. .\l pp. 10, II, and 12 of the Ap]'eMilix Mr. Williams i.s ipioied to show that the danger to the foiiiiilcs 'ies ill the jiiurney through the Ale'ilian Islands, with young, to the hreeiling-giounds. (/ii p. '.10 III' his Kvidnice In I'me ihe ( 'iimniittee. he illustrates the iiietlective means of protecting the Hikeries by stating :— I.jiFt full a seliooner landi d at one of the rookeries p.nd killed seventeen eows and liiiUs riylit on the breeding rookeries." I ' li d'lU " % Jli'ji^ain, at |j. lUG, lie says : — " TUtii tilie prfgt'hr nu'imurps artr Muncwhat iitaufticient in shown by the fact tliut for thu last tlirce or four ye;irs there have bctn ini*reiis«'! (Ufl^^u'tiufiioiis imnuully upnii Ibp i-otikerics. " \ i4*v.»nu('-*-^ittiT L"'''H ilpim the uronnds iintl thiMi is orih^reil north for inspection, or for reliff of a whalinj; crew, (irsonip. thitip .if UiK! kin-.l, au'l Ihi7 iii\> goni' pn'tty miicli thf whiih^ time of tlu' si'iiliiig sunson, and there a|ipeni9 to be insurlicieiu-y of w^ inethtHl of j.nityirii.ri." Oil||. \im lif. says:— *' Thpy >tw«-n! iW>»m an llif y find tlieni A vessel can approach witliin less than half a inilo or a qnarter of a mile of ti^ it\wnt\ and i>*' ' ' ;i>i<w ^u:i uccouot of :o.^), and can send her h;)Hts on the beaches und get off fifty or a hundred sVins heforu ibt inh«bit<intH i^i ihmI ii'^mrt/' Ei'iiliiKrl'V Afr. Williams "I'X's not cuiisidcr the sliootinj,' of females far from land is much iiiilul^ni ill, a* V< iiiHiMts tlial llic, >l;ima'^'" is done iushori', where no jiolicu imitection is enfuived. Til* hint \vy ol' ilic ntitknr\i'» ^'iven on jip. lli, lo, ami 14 of the Ajiiiendix has been dcnll with already w tliin ;;*«iif'i-. f>]i |t|i. ]-l'iwi l.'i -4 UUft Apf»'ndix an article on fur-seals, fmni " Land and AVater," written in 1877 li.v a NTr. Il>|i> i*; ivtWliecJl to. He incrclv aiUwl'-s to-slie ifldiseirimiiiatc slaughter which was iiractised (m the njokeries, wliidi lui one clcfcnds or juslJitSi'^. .Ml'. .Mclntyiv, ."i»>pHriiiti»a«i«tlt of the .><eal ti.slieries of Alaska for tlie lessees, is then hMiii;,'lii i'orwiird by Mr. Ulaine. Thi-i ,i;eMll('mii:i went l.o th.- istoil as a Oovernnicnt .\gont to in.spcet the o]ierations of tlic Cdii- paiiy. \\U lie|)ort< were liitvoUH',il»li»' ily .and hij,'iily eulogistic of the Company, and they were inrm.. 'iiiilely ioIImuvmI 1)y hi« resigiMttion iwai^ioverninent ollicial and his appointment to a lucrative iio.siiion •inder the i '.■.iipaiiy. His Ir-tiiiiouy >" naturally more in fovour of the Company and of the Clovernment's contciuiun, w'hirii is ,s(i ilireeliy .m the interenl of tlie Owwpaiiy, thiin the testimony of any other witness, H-c think-< mily onr-tiftii of the .seals i*l»<ii are recovered, and his reason is that he ha.s fciuud siak with liullels in »1ieir liluli'ier.s on the islnudH. jle attributes a deticiency in the luiinlierof .s^als in ISSS to tile fact that <'i>ws wevv kiU«H. Me .4>«MitionK that if cows are killed in Aui,'ust, and their ynim.; deprived of ilieir iii'illiLrs' r.^-i', the youiiii ;j>'vifl|i The ycaiiiii perish also if the mother is killed liufurc they are born. In this witv he enilcavoHi i<i n'liresent .siich a practice obtains, but it is to Ix' lifiri . ill mind that he does not \!fi »< far ii.- ^> say that pups are found dead on the islands in iniv uuinber. When tiiis ollieer was reportiiif^ on ttf iperations of the Company, and before tiu' incswit eontenti'iii was laiscul, he .i,'ave a .Lthiwin,!.; hccouh* 'A the increasini; numbers of seals at the isliuul.s. ;is will I*' ^liowii; but at ji. I lli of the I'videnee bel^tre ' m.^re^siunal liKpiiry he labours to riMliiee the estiiit4U»-< ol both Klliott and I )all by oiw;-^.ltir<l » • -if. He eoiududes that the number of souls has laiyj-iv deeivised in the last two years (l>W7 mt\ 1888). The (Jomiiany, however, killeil tlieii l(Mi,00(i m I'iicli t/ these years. The Covenimv.Vi'' hint the discretion to reduce the limit. TIk! (idvorii- nieiit did ij-it deeii' it nmcessary to ilo so. The Mmitxi. this witiuws .says, was inereasinj,' until JHS2, »nd tlitni other jmyites lesan the killinj,' of seals csjx'ciidly since 188-t." All tins told upon tln' KH)kerie.-i, and, he added, "a con.sidfi-able \iv\vj'nt»^" of the killing was made up of male sells (Kvitlenee, p. 117) Mr. Mcfiityi- att(5Ti»|itert to count the catcli ili ISSfl a-year were taUeii, in-irly all in ]!eIiriiig'-< Sea water he olitained liii< iiiffinnatiou is not 4ii>wiij Frnn. li. time lii.s stali'iiM'Ut i« nbvioutiy a inw*- surmise. Ke eiiuld iMtlr know pi rwrnnlh/ .if the catch bum rai': 1887, and whir!, vci-u: dii- l.o nielffective pmtection of i;ij< perccut.'.i:i- of i)j«' vff'Fi of t!.«^ )iiiw.uiders w.us made up of luhfl' him saying' (jrt ^« I K): — mid in 1887, and stated that 4ii,oi)0 skin- w instances by raids on the laud. How 11 the Island of St. Paul during all that ■ii were made on the island in ISSG.ainl .slands. After telling us that a lurgi' males, ho entirclv fcu'gets this, as we find .\ niiijoritx li IIS taken bjr m tn m i ert, in far '« '>r 90 per CMK.y iiefifim fumates." It is subn.ii,- i ih't this witness, whost iiitt.'re-'*t on MudH' ■'' the Comjiany (the lessees) is shown in his confession tiwl it was ag times neci^s.su-y, to oi*4«* t^i co-.i'iol the jirice in the markels, lor the Cnmpuny to lake lcs« t-irtmi ItXi.dOO seals (Kvid'iice, p. t'/j . haw not strengthened his testimony on llie niiiin ]ioint liy speiikiii/ ^''''ti'vely to the fullowili};, wifc'jf could unly have been known to liim liy hearsay : — (('.) IJussia (leslriiyi'd. MHWuding vessels. (/).) A I'ritish vessel, in J>«87. took 4.'it .si-als in ni-t----/''* <^ »»«reted them on a small islaiiil. li-'l them, iini! ii'turiicd lo the .sea for m«>re. (c.) Marauders kill 100,0011 eacti .sejtson. ((/.) It is not true that vessels are .seized wiien )iursuii,«; He gill' , on to say that for tlie first fifteen years of tin- t'ompany .s lease, viz., from 1871) lo 1885. till' lessees well' nniioil'sted (|>. lL".i\ which .slalement has been shown In be incorrect. He uhsci'voil that since IS.Si;, uiid eupciwjly since 1884, other ]iiiitii's have liien destroying seals, '■ reducing the eiiuililu'iiim if the se.xe.s. As will be submitted licreafler, he h.i been eontrailicted in regard to this by ev' irt writers, hi. lorians, trnvelleu, and .\genls of the rnited Stuttw' tldvernmeiit. .ilr. If. W. Kllinit, whose experience is limited m 1872, 1874, and I87IJ— when, as Mr. Mclntyiv s. is, no injury was done by nnuaudeis — is next lel'erred to by Mr. lilaine (p. lli "f .Vppeiidix). He is eferi'ed tu a- a memlier of the Smithsonian Institute ; he was also a Special Agent of the Treasury. The fiill.iuing are ixlrucls tiiken from a " liejiorl upon the Customs Districts, ^'ublic Service, ami legitimate business. irs there have htn 441 R«.source3 of Alaska Territory, by W. L. Morris, Special Agent of the Treasury Department, 1879":- " In the NoTember number of 'Harper's M«gaiine,' 1877, Rppears an article entitled 'Ten Yeori' Acquaintancn with Alaska, 1867-7"-' The authorship i« correctly ascribed to Mr. Henry W. Elliott, now connected with tho Smithsonian Institution in sub-offiii»l capacity. This gentleman was formerly a special Affent of the Treasury Department, under a special Act of Congress, .pprored 22nil April. 1874, appointed for the purpose of ascertaining at that time the condition of the leal fisheries in Alaska, the haunts and habits of the seal, the preservation and extension of the fisheries as a source of revenue to the United States, with like informaiinn respecting the fnr-boaring animals of Alaska generally, the statistics of the fur trade and the comlition of the people or ostiTi'S, especially those upon whom the successful prosecution of the fisheries and fur trade is dependent. " This Report of Mr. Elliott will be further notieiid hereafter, and, upon the threshold of criticizlnf anything he has written upon Alaska, occasion is here taken to gi . him full credit for his valuable contribution in regard to fur-seals. It is to be regarded Jautiiorily and well conceived. The views of Mr. Elliott, however, in reference to other matters of moment in the Territory, are so dismrtrieaUy opposed and antagonistic to my own that I feel er>nstrained to review some of his statements, glittering generalities, and the wholesale method with which he brushes out of existence with his faeile pen and ready artist's brush anything of any essence of ralue, li«ht, shade, or shadow in the broad expanse of Alaska that does not conform precisely to the rule of investigation and recital laid (iimn by himself, and which contrnilicta his repeated assurances that outside of the Seal Islands and the immcdiah' dependencies of tlie Aliufka Commercisl Company there is nothing in Alaska. "This mngazine article bears a sort of semi-official indorsement, its authority is not denied, and with this explanation for using llie name of Mr. Elliott in connection therewith, a few of its crudities and nudities will bo noticed ; — " ' The Sftue-ketper -f Alaaka. " ' So little is known about Alaska that whenever anything comes up in Congress relating to it information is sought wherever it fM readily be found. The " informant " is ever on hand, with his work on fur-seals comfortably tucked underneath his left arm, to impart all the knowledge extant about the country, " for he knows more about Alaska than any lue.n living." •■ ' A decade has passed since we acui'Ucu this Territory, and for a decade it has afforded employment and sub,sistence for its pn-sent sense-keejier ; but the next decade is wrrming into national existence, and it is about time this bubble was pricked and the bladder not <piito so much inflated. " ' I am fully aware of all the consequences to he dreaded, the responsibility assumed, when rash enough to dispute the heretofore self-eslablished authority from the Arctic Ocean to the Portland Canal.' "This man seems to be the natural foe of Alaska, prosecuting and porsenuting her with the brush of the pencil and the pen of an expert whenever and wherever he can get an audience, and I attribute the prestmt forlorn condition of the Territory to-day more to his ignorance and misrepresentation than to all other causes combined. He is accused of being tho paid e,-eaturc and hired tool of the Alaska Commercial Company, and belonging to them body and soul. I have made diligent inquiry and ascertain he ij not in their etnitley. and, furthermore, they repudiate the ownership. They should not be held responsible foi the indiscreet utteriugs of tho tense-'^L'i'per, notwithstanding the charge of ownership might canst- him to be more readily listened to. " Doubtless when they have been attacked through the columns of the press they have employed this individual, who is unquostiunahly possessed with the eacoplhfn acribendi, to reply to unjustifiable uuslaughta, and paid him for it as they would anv other nt'nny-liner who makes literature and writing for the press his profession." :■»■ ■' Hi.s evidence in 1888 is open advocacy of tlie Unitetl States' contention. His writinjjs an>l Keports prior to the dispute will be referred to, and it will bo submitted that his statements and e.xpe- rienci's l)efore 1888 hardly support his later theories. His statement on p. 17 of the Appendix, that woiuuled seals swim awfiy to perish at a point never to be seen ai,'ain, is contradicted liv the last witness, Mr. Jfclntyre, who picked handfuls of buckshot, &c., out of seals clubbed on the islands. His tlienry of the ditliculty of shootinf; seals is contniry i" the known practice of the hunters to creep upon the si'id .as it lies tloatini; in the calm waters of the sea, and by his own testimony before quoted, of tho iineriiiig aim of the Indian hunters. Mr. Tingle, an Agent of the Treasury, in charge of the fur-seal islands from April 1885 to August 188G, is quoted by Mr. Illaine (Aiipendi.x, p. 17). Mr. Tingle is not able to go so far as Mr. Mcliityre, altliough he was at the islands in 1886 (Evidence, p. IM), but he stated " there lias been a sliyht diminution of seals, probably." He estiiuated SD.OOO were talo^n ly marauders, and to do tliis he guesses that 500,000 were killed. This gentleman, as an Agent of the Treasury, was confined to tlie islands during his tenure of office (Evidence, p. 153). lie bases his contention on the log of a marauding schooner which fell into his hands. This log was, it may be remarked, not produced, and no excuse is given for withholding it. He produced what he sniJ was a copy. As his opinions are based upon this curious statement, his testimony can hardly k' seriously )M'essed. He testified to insolence of sealers when seized, tiiough he does not appear to have been present at any of thy siuzures. Tiuj log-book, it should bo observed, is said to have "uelonged to the " Angel Dolly." This is not the name of a Canadian sealer, and it may here be stated that no Canadian sealer has ever been found within the 3-mile limit. Tiie operations on the schooner " Angel Dolly " must have been rather expensive, and they do not eorroboral'j the allegation that large catches were made, since ,'J(lO rounds of ammunition (Mr. Tingle saiil) wore \va.-;ted for the cajiture of one seal. Another supposed entry in the log is most extra(jidinary for the captain of a sealer, under any cir- runistniices, to make. The statement referred lo is as follows; — " It is very uiat'ouraging to issue a large quantity of ammunition to your boats and have so few seals returned. " There is not a Magistmte's Court in the country tiiat would listen to this or.al testimony as to the cnnt(nits of a log. A reference to this prctendoil log — a copy of a portion thereof onl}' being produced by Mr Mclntyie (p. 332 of Evidence) — shows that the captain had an excejitionaUy bad crew. The captain described them in the following terms : " The hardest set of hunters in liehriug's Sea ;" A(( " never will lie caught with such a crowd again ; they are all a .set of curs." The captain added, however, that i[ "we only had hunters, we woidd be going home now with l,.'iOO skins at the very least ;" and from the lug it would appear that he had no regulai hunters on board. It is worthy of remark that the statements made by Mr. Tingle respecting tho entries in this illojjed log are not confirmed by an ins[)ection of the transcript Mr. Mclntyre produces (on p. 332 of Evidence). Mr. Tingle cont''adicts Mr. Mclntyre regarding the number ol seals on the island. He states (p. 102, Kvidence) that there had been an increase of seak since Mr. Elliott's count in 1876 of "\i fi!- [128J 8L I i}i 442 2,137, fiOO. ITp cNprpssfd tiatiiriil nstonisliiimiit (p. Kill) nl tlu' Mtnl(>in(!nt. of Mr. Klliutt, H'l^iirdifiir „ (It'cn'iiMc. Ill' .siiyH; — " 1 inn til n Ionk tn kiiow how Mr. Klliott ((i>tii liii* infornintion, Htt lin hail not tui'ii on tlio tnliiiiiU for rtnirtrrii yrarn," 1'usIiimI liy (lie Cliiiiiiimn nf llit^ ("niiiniilli'r by tlir fiillnwiiii; i|ii('N(ii)ii, viz., " II is Mr. Ali-Inivn', (i|iiiiii)ii tliiil llii'y liiivt> iinl iiiily imt iiiririisiMl, Inil liiivi' (it'rrdii.st'il," llir wilin'.ss, iti voply, .'ilnicl il,;,! "(lirrc liiiM lu'cii I) sli;/li/ iliniinnlidii «( nri\h, iirtilmlili/." 'I'Iki iirxl luidiniity i|iin|i'il liy llic I'lihcil Slnti'.s i.M Williiiiii (liivill, ii S|ii'ciiil Ajji'ul, nf i|„, Ti'ni'tiiry 111. .St. (linri,'(i I.-flninl IVniii jMiiy I.S.^V li' Aiimi.sl, 1,S,S,S. 'I'lic cviilriirc n|' this wilnc^s js n,,! ri'I'i'i'rril tn nl iiiiy lriii;tli liy Mr. liliiilK. 'i he wilncsM tiHlilicil licriiro t.lic ( 'iiii;;i('s.siiiiiiil ( 'iiiiiiiiillii. imwcvcr, llinl Ilic ciiiiiioyi's ol' tlic ('niM]imiy (llii' l('s.'<r(','<) ilid iint ii'Mjici'l tiu' liiws nl' (iiul iir iiiini. ||,. uiimi'il |iiirliciilnrly Mr. M'clistci, I'r. I.iil), •'ulni Kiil<, iiinl .lnliii Hull (p. IHII). Ami In^ mlilnl il,ni llii' iiili'M 111' till' ('iiiii]miiy WfW violiilcil. Tlir ('ciiiiiiiillcc lininlli'il this wiliii'.s.s nillirr riiiiojijv Ml. .IcIVlics siiyiiiL; In liilii (p. l.'<8) : — " Yint liinl lii'ltiT nnilrrittiniil wliiit yon iire talkinK iiliont," On p. ll'l III' ri'lniluLs oIIiit iiiHi'cr.s nl' llic Tiviisury wiio liiul IrHliliod pnsitivi'iy to miiiIIim'. willium (111! nn'iilis nl' kiiiiwii'il;^!'. 'I'lii' witiii'.ss WHS iisKnl : '* Wliiit will till' rcmilt of yiiur iiltHt'rviitioini ililil ii|iiiiiiiiiti tliiit you ih'pin ri'liiililr in ri'B|ii*ct In tlir iiiiliiwfiil killntif of .^,1 iiiiniljilly .'" Till' witiiuMs miswcrcil tliiil — " Wr liavc no mrmii nf knimiiiK Hint." Un WHS thiMi ]irt'Ms('il in lliis wiiy : — " It in n ini'i-f iiiiittiT of cKlininti', iif r'nirsi', hut 1 winh it hiin'il upon m n-linhh' iiiforinntion nn yitn Imvr." Wlu'll tlir witlH'SM siliil — " 1 think tlip lirnt !ii'ii<«oii thn rrvftiiii'-riittpr riipturi'il l.^,O0fl Btoirn nkiiiH (p. 191) ; wliprc thi'y wr'.n gtoIiMi, wfu-thfr in Mcifi or ont nfil, no nf/nit i-uittd lint/i/)tU;/ urt.v." lie hIsii sliiiwi'il lllill lili' Icssrrs nl' llii' isliiMils wcin mil si piirliciilur Its iil.iu'r .'\^(>|lts ]ilr|i'iii|, «li,.|] lie ti'lls MS (p. r.ll) llliit limy linii|.;lil, Ifiiiii llin liiilivrs iit ( )i>miliiskiv n,!!!!!) snills jviili'ij liy tlii'm. tlicvi' (p. r.ll'i). 'i'lii' I'liili'ii stall's pills Ciirwiiiil this nllircr iw ii ri'li,iiil(' wiliii'ss, timl it is, llicii'l'uiv Iml rnif 111 iilliirti impiiilitiifi' tn ii, sliiti'im'iit wliirli woiiki'iis llii' I'lirci' nl' ihn rx /uiiir slali'iiii'iii mni npininli nl' tin' Spi'iiii! .\l;i'I|Is .sent, t'l'iilll lillir In tliiii' In tlir isliimis, iiml wlin liiivc Imw 1 li liniiinlii I'niWillil lilt lii'll.lll' 111' till' rilitril Sliitrs lis willlcssi'S ill silppiul nf ii I'li'Jr wllirli inin'criis mil, iiirii.jv llii' (Jiivi'i'iinii'iit, liiil iiinst (lifi'itly till' Ii'ssi'i'.s. Till' witness slatnl tliiil niii' nl' ilm ninplnyrs i,'|' ii,,, CniiipiuiV lllill liiiii Hull wlii'ii 11 (liiviTiiiiii'iit iillii'i'f I'liiiii' tlirrc anil j,'nl nlnni,' willi tlif ('niiipiiiiy il \v;i. piiililiilili'. rpnii liriii;.; iisKnl liy llic ( 'niiiliiilli'C, lii'l'iitti wliniii lie was Ljivinj,' cviili'lii i', tn r\p|;iiii, h,. ri'plii'il Hint — " ;\ mini oinilil ilmw two snlnrii-ii. likn Mr. Knlknor innl JiiJ|{i' riliiMi'n, oni' ('nun the (luvi'ininrnl ninl imp fr.nn thr. (JimniTiy ■ (p. 1'.)!). Ml-. Minilliiii's I'viili'iirc is next pvi'smli'il (]\. I '.I nl' ,A)i|ii'n(lix). I [c wits ii (Invoriiiin'iit, ,\j;int rrniii 1.S77 In IS,s,"i. ill' saiil lliiil llinvc \\as an appai'cnl hiiTcasi' iliiriiiL; llin IIvmI. livn y.'iirs, I'.c., i„ ISS'J, tlii'll II lii'iivasi' 1,11 l>>H:"i 1 1'',\ iili'llrr, p :.'.'"i.'i). In Mils Hlati'liii'lit Im has lii'i'H i'niiirai|irt|.||l,'- nlliiial Hi'pntts, ii.s will he shown. 'I'hi' wilni'SM iiiliiiils, hnwi'Vri that rnliialr seals, al'liT ^'iviiij.' hirlli to ihrif vniin;.;, .s-m/^ p nut in ru'hriii!,''s Sea; ami hi' is nl' opiiiinii thai lawlrss hiinlers kilt all hey Iiml, uiiil liml they lilnl iiiiitiii'is iiwa\ rrmu llirir ninsliiiiis. No spreial rra.snii I'm' this opinioii i,s t,"ivi'n, Iniwi'vc., .\ sailnr, ImIwiiiiI Sliielils, nl' \ anrniivrf, rnriiinly on tin' si'ali;:;'-«rl!':nm'r " ( 'iwnlinn." is .sniil i., have tcstilii'il, wlii'ic iiiiu wlmn il is mil slaleil i|i. L'll nf .Apjii'iiilix tn .Mr. Illaine's h'llnfj, tlnil, in jSsi. out ol' liSti seals liikell hy the "('aniline" the seals wein ihieily females, I'pnn this, it iiiiiv he .siiil tllilt il is till' enstoni anions liiinlers In el...-!s all seals the skins of wliieh lire the ,si/n or niyir the fv/r of till' I'eiii.i'ie 11' " I'emaleH," hir their jiiiiitanee as In llie i|iiiilily of skiiiH in the cateli. It limy ul.sn \v leinarkeil lllill il iliit'M not iippeiir thiil these h'liiales were in milk, am! this is alwiiys knnwii winn .skinninji llie seal. " Ilry cnws " are eaiii,'lil, as has heeti ailniilleil, ami lakiiii,' this eviileiii'e, ^'iwn i:i- parli as il was, il is at lie.st, if line, an e\ee|ilinnal eise in a very small ealeli. Mr. (iliilileii WHS renilleil liy the Cniiiiiiitlee, ami i splni'ieil tliiil liis estintiile nf 4(1,(1110 ,skiiis \vn.> liaseil nil liewspapi I re)i'irls nf llie eiilih nf the seiilen He was, nf eoiir.se, iiiiahlc tn show Imw iiiiiiu of these were iaki'ii iieiiv the .Vietitiaii Islamis, in the I'ortli I'aeitie, or on ihn west eoa.st nf jiniisli (lolitinhia. or in iho I'll.iiel Sniimi, lull he eviileiilly ereilil.s tin. wholi! esiinialeil eateli to lielniti^;'' .Sm ('onsei|i!ently he was of opinimi that senliii;,' in l!eliriii,i,''n Sea shniilil he emieil, to ieail to tin! ln'Hor preservalinli of seal lil'e. It is to !ie ohserved thai iml nm of these witnesses, whose npininiis ale relied iipnn hiith as In lli. eiilrli, llie hiihit'i, and hc.x of llie neiil in deoji wiiter and the niethnd nf shnntinn, f^c,., has Imil ;ui\ expeiieiiee as a hunter or with hiiiiters. 'I'liey www imt exjierls. 'I'licy were sent to the islimd.s to ,<tv tliiit llie les.sees perfori'ieil r.ieir o'lli^'ations as e.oveiiaiited in the lea,se. The experienee ol iimsl ol llielii "as liiiiiled lo a I'l.'W yeius' resideiu'e on the Seal Islandy, assoeialed with and iimh'r llio iiiiliinil inlhienee nf a Cniiipaiiy adinitiedly a moiinpnly and duMirniis of ri;3tri(.'tili.L! the ealeli .so as to emitnil lliu inarki'l of tin; worlil ii.s far as ,seals art! ei-neermtd. .Nonu of tliu wituoHSi'H were, iimreovei, eiibiiiittod to a cross-oxamiiuitiou, and Ihev vvern to ii liirgf 44d vhrlhrr m Hr „ Mm thf ('(impmiT" WITH to U liirp,. (.xUiiit li''' ''.y *■'"' i""*'"'"'"'" '" '■'"' "l"""''''""^ I'"'' '■" t-l""'!' I'l"' "Illy fiii'tn tliiil wiirc |io8Hit)Iy wit.liiii llicir kniiwli'il},'!' irliitn ti> sK'iil lite (Hi llii' isliiiiilH, to tilt) iiioilc ol' killiiif,', and Ui tlid tiiiuiH wlit'.ii killod .1 ,|.,, iiiid Id llic'ir liiiliitM wlii'ii ill mill ii|iiiii llic l•lH)l^l■.|•i(^'^. ■['111' n|iiiiiiiiiH (if Ilk' ;;i'iillc'iii('ii ;;ivi'ii iMifDii' tlm (Jonj^iTSMiniiiil Ciiiiiinittri! in 18HX, for tlui liiiiHt unit llioiij-'li MiiiiirliiiirH ('(inlriulicldiy, nrc in liivouf ol' tlin iiiiildr-iiic'iiliniii'il tlicdi-ics ; — I, Thill 111'- rciiiii'ii' mciiIm wliilr nili'Miri;.; tlirir ydiiii;,' ;;d i^Tcut iliHliuiutiH in hciutIi of fdinl, J, TIml wlii'ii diit II f^ii'iil (li'.liiiiic rciMiili' ki'iiIh iiri! kIhiI, iuiiI tlii^ pups mi hIhiic iimi ]dnt, I'm- wmil ufl.lii'ii'iiiiillii'i"-' fare. ;;, Tliiit (lie ;rri .'ili'l' juirt '<( lln' (iilcli in llcliiiii^'ti Sen i.s nmdi^ up i>( fc^iiiiilr mphIh. .|, Tliiit lilt' ili'jtriii'lidii dl' till' Hi.'iil;'. when liiiiitcil dii tiic, hcii in ;^rriit in cdiimiiniciKM^ if many vKiuiiilc'l -'■'il' '"'ii'- '""'■ .Ml dl (lii'f<i' dpiiiidiis air put I'liiwiinl in Hiippnit df the main piiipiisitidii of llic I'liitcil Slates, viz., lliiil siiii'i' I. '^■'■f-. anil i'>pi'<'iiilly since l.SMJ, the inimlu'r ol' seals iiMinilly e,dllertinx mi the lireeilin^,'- .'riiiiiiil lias I'liiislalitly iliiiiinislieil. The. Ciiiiiilian ( idveiiimeiil Jniiis iNsiie iipiiii I his, anil the eiiiiiiter-a.s.sertidn is miiiUi tlmt there has {„,,,|i III! appieeialile ilimiiiiiliiiii lit '<eals IVeipirnl iii^' the I'lidkei'ies, anil it is rliiiliieil tliiit the seals ale iiiiiir iiiiiiieiiiils iiml liidie valiialile iipdii Ihe nidlievies tu-ilay than ever in their pievidiis hisliiry ; that Ihis is the fact ndtwilhsliindiii^j the nidlicries have lieeii I'dp tweiily yeais imiclically nnprotectcd from Imiiiiii'IiI and must danL^eriam raids iipeii Ihe aeliial liieiMliii^^'^i'diiiidM, and many iitlier injiiiies, all williin the cniili'dl df Ihe ( Jiivernmeiii. of Ihe I'niteil Slates, as liereinarier specihed. Till' Canadian ( idViriimeiit leserls Ihal Ihe seal lite iipiiii Ihe islands i alini't didy he inuintuiiicd, hilt !,'reiillv increased hy the adnp, imi (in Ihe piili iil' the I 'nitiMl StiiUvs iil'-- 1. All elhciiiil means lur the palidl and ]irdteelidii of the islands. Z Hy thi^ |ii'dhil'iliiin of the killi:'t; of pups hy the natives for I'ddd. :;. Ily ii'ihicin;^ Ihe iiiiiiiher df yailiii;; seals to he killeil hy the. lesseeH. I, I'.y iidt permittiM!; uiiy hiiliii;,' dl' sea's iiium the islands, exeeplin^ in duly, .\ii;.;ii,sl, ami ,'<(||ilellllK'l'. ."i. Hy prevcntiii!.', the Aleiit.s IVrm killiie,; s.'als (Hi llieii' mi;^ratidn through the Aleutian IslandH nil llicir w.iy to and from Ihe liieedili^-;;rdiiiii!s. Ill .Ml. r.laiiie'.s despalch to Sir.Iulian I'aiine.efote of the l!7tli .laniiury, IK'.IO, lid proceeds upon ii siiiiicwlial dilleivnt ,i,'i(aiii(l than tlii^ evidiHice already ri^viewed, in order to show the. nece.ssity lor innliilnliiai of sealing in the waters of llehrin^'s Sea. The '■' /n(i/r evidence hefon^ the (!onj;iessioniil ( 'ointiiiltee satislicd thiu ('ominittee that "the inv.seiit iiiimher of seals on St. I'.iill and .St. (ieoi;.;e Ishnids has maieiially ililiiinished diiriii;,' the lust l«-(i er three years," viz., from IHHIi to IHHII, while Mr. Mclntyie, whose evidence is so irnich relied uiioii hv Ihe I'nited States, dali'S the deiaiiiise from l^X'J. Mr. Illainc, however, a(lo)its llm view that the rook(H'ies were in prime eoiidition and uniliminiNlied until l.'^.So, wliiiii, Its 111) HiivH, Canadian sealers male tlioir advent into Hehiiiif^'s Sea and tho injury lit'l^aii. II is therefdre iinpdrtaiit td pdiiit lait that the dpepatidiis of the <'.'inailian .-tealers were ah.sdhilely liiiin.le.srt ediiipaii^d with the miiiiei'diis depredatioii!* ii)idii the islands fur the lust century, which, liowcver, have not yet hej;uii to idlect Ihe value and iiiimhcr of seals iiii these Wdiiderfnl rookeries. Already evideiici^ has Imeii citiMl in this paper eslahlishiii;; the fad that extiiionliniiry sliiii;;hter iicciini'il ]irioi to 1H70, and lliat afu^r all thi.s, when the total niimher of seals on ,St. Paul and ,-^t, ilciii';,'(^ Islands was admittedly Ic^s than now, it was deemed safe to permit 100,1)1)1) inule seals of I vTar or over to la; killed anmially tor twenty yciiUH, &i\ la 1870 Collector I'ladps, of San I'laiieisod, reporlod : — " I nm iiNniirpd lUv riiliri' inanltpr tiikrti mouiIi of t)i<' IhIhiiiU of 8t. (Joorgc itnd St. Paul will nggrcgnte, nnj, 10,000 to 20,IMI0 per aunnn." (II. K. Ki. Due. No. .I.'i, lltli (iiiikti'iik, tut Soioion.) The Aclini,' Secretary of the TriNisiiry i)eiiartnieiit, in Sepfemher 1870, f,'ave |)(!riiii.')Hidii to the '■|)ni|iiiiiy to use lire-arms yi;/' /iniliifimi n/' Ihe iddin/s iiijuiiinl iHiirinidirs. (I[. U., 'Mth Cmif^'reHS, Isl .Session, Kx. I toe. No. .S!!, |i. ;',0.) ill 187:.' Collector riielps. Id iMr. Secreiary r>diitwell, reports eNpedition titling; out in Australia and Vii'tiiria I'dr sealinj^' in I>eiiriu;^'s Sea with t e oliir..t of ciipturiiif; seals on their niinratiiais to :iii(l from Si. I'liiil iind St. (leor;;e Islands. Secretary rioiitwell did not consider it e.\pcdient to iiiterfcn! with liic.'ic 'iiieratiiais if they wru: carried on :! miles from land. III 1.871 .Mr. Secretary Sawyer, writing,' 1o .Mr. II, W. Klliott, relerred to I'.ritish vessels tiikiii),' liir-.^cals ill rnited .Slates' waters and to tlii^ seals heeoiuiiij,' more iiiimeroiis. Ill 187."' .'VIr William .Mdntyre. an .Assistant A^s.'lit of the Tn iisiiit, desi rihes having heeii told lliut the crew o: lli(? schooner "<.'y;;net," as she lay at anchor in Z.ipadiiee l!ay in IsTT, were shooiing .fciils fnaii the deck, skinning them, and throwing the (si'-a.^cs ■■vnrhiiard, which wiis iiluriniiig tlic .si'iils iiiiil driving them from their lireeiliiig-gvuuiids. And 'le aid; — ■ I ttinliiil 1(1 )(ivi. Ilir < itplHiit of the vr««rl llincly w.iriiiht; b(;fi)ir (ir'WTCilniK to ImrRli iiu-rt^urrn 1 loid jiniii-il tlic nHtiV(<!( with ill'' iiitrunoii of rrpt'lliiiif l.y loicc iiiiy tittfiiifilw t'l kill tini (in f/if rni,k'Ttft or within rirtf-thtit <^'Mc iftore, if the I'rrwi ttill (MTfislod 111 iluitii> so iiflpr till' rfn.||il of toy lottrr lo tin* captuill." lie ili!Si:rihed the operations of the " (;ygnet" under the cliff near the rookery, which aliirined the seals so that lliuy Idi Ihe rookery in large niimhers. (Mx. lioe. No. 83, p. 124, -t'ltli (/'oiigios.s, Isl Sessidii.) This vessel is iigiiiii reported hy Special Agent Itryiint in IL'tli May, 1870. (Kx. l)d('. No. 8;f, 1' I'-Ti, l-lth < 'dngrcKK, l.st Se.ssion.) Kniui 1871 to 1878 Mr. K .1. Morgan, Altoniey for the .\laskit ('oiiipiiny, was on the islands 'luring the veins I8ti8 18('.',t, and from 1871 to 1878. ' He speaks of several raids upon the islands in [128) 3 L 2 i !■' I I 444 lUH tiliii', iiiul hi- »i»VK tlic whole i]\ichHoii In our or mori' .rtcVri l<> jmilni llix fookmfx on Ihr i^lnvii. (H. H. I'.X. One. N.i ;tSS:i, r.Olli CmniOMS. \^\^. r.s. 71, lO'.l.) Ill IHTfi tlu' I'viili'iici' of |)uiiii» l.vmnii I'dtiliiins ll\i' I'lilldwiiiK iuriinniilioii. (Hi'|«irl, ('niniinUci. WuyM iii\il Melius. llonHn Ui'IhiiI Nh. i'-'S.\, -Mtli riiii};rcs«, ImI McHHinii.) Aimwt'iJiin Mr. lUiruliiiml an In wlmt ho knew hImi\iI \Uo in'iziiro of t.lio " Siui Uicf^o," Mi l.yimu ivplii'd • — "Th»n> wn« R ni-iiupr mflili" nf llif ' Hiiii Dli'p).' n wlimiiior, iirnr St. I'lml l«lciiul, »ii llir 'J/lli July Inrtl ;IH":i). mi Imar.! „( whioh wn\' l.dllil fiir.KWl M\\: Tin' ' Wim Itl"."' ' "•« »•'»• <l'>w" •" Cnlifiiniin, iiiiil irrlvwl lliiw In AiiKUHt." U' !>: •> .■ ;■ T.S of tlic siuiio lu'imrl, Mr. Isllioll, in iiiLswor In Mr. tMiapiii, hiivh llmt. Ilm akiiiH inUow h„m (1 'UK Uii'jld" Weill rrnill Ol/if !.•./, nil/, one of (lie liMMecl j;roil|). ISSd Mr. Melntvii' re|iorleil llie eHliiiiiitiMl iiiiiiiml Hlaiinlifer of 5,(1(10 )irenimiil feiinilen mi (I,,. ^^'ll iJoliiiiiliia eoa.st I'l, , l\e|iort.') of .Sjieeial ,\i;eiil Odi.M ami ('a|>(aiii lliiiley r('H|'er(iuj{ (lie iieiiplt! of Aliiskn j t.lieir eoi.ilifioii ^Seniile l'',\. Hoe. No. l;lll, ■Killi ( 'oii]^'i'(w,4, 'Jiiil Siwi . vol. iv, ji. 4), Ciilifaiii lliii|,.y lays : — r.nrilin AiHll mi.l Mii» nil llii' ,o«i,| I i,liiiiiii. Inmi llu' mniilli nl tlif .SlniU ol I'u.n l,i tlii> nnitli imhI nf I'rincn (if Wnl, , |<|,|„| Hml pvofllnlili' rni|ilm mi'iil in lukmu fur ai'iiK wlil, li «,ihi In lir nnikinn llw jiiiMniiiti' iiIhiik llii' riini,| In llii' niiiili, I immu |ii,ilulily , imrllon .if llir vol niimlior llml llimlly iptn'm,":- »l llir Sonl Inlnml Inlrr in 111 ii«,'n. I iiin iiil,iriiii'il liv llii^ Iniliiiio llml huki „( llir iiriil> liiki-u nU'iiK tl>i> iiiaM jiir friiiitli'ii, anil llii'ir nkiiiK An,! n innrkvl itl llic varl'iiK lluilmiii lliiji |in>l»." On II. ;tl of (lie .same l!el)or(, m a lisl of (lie ve.-fselM lioiilileil, lie jjiviss (,lie UiiKetl .SdUe.i' si Ihiiiuci " I.olela. l)ex(er iiiasler, seizeil a( 0\o Seal I.slaii(l,'< liv ,S|ieejiil Ajjeiil. (t(l,if. Ill a Ki>iioi(, liy Speeial CoiiiiiiiH.sioiier Ivan IVdoll'lu (.lie year ISSO, lui ,'myn : - '* \n lliniit> KfnU ptifiit lip Nlitl ildwn till' iMMKl iiH iHr hh llin Straitii ol Kitrjl Htlil Ilin llliiilth nf Cndmililrt llin-r, <|iiil,' n hiimlirr oi tlirm Art' niM'iirtil hv liiiiilfrii. wliii nllinil or Rprnr tllctii im lliry liml Oii'iii nulfifp iit "fii. Almi mtiiilt ifn^rlM iiro nilr,l ,tiil m Sm FniniMKiM, witii'li n'lnilnrlir rrititn in llioni' wiil,>rii fiir llio piirpimi' nlitiin nf RlionLiiiK NliTpiiift nml." (11. U. |r,^ Dnc. N,i. m, 46th (,'on|mia, Snl SvuMon, *ol. iTiii, p. 0,t.) At j>. Ill of (lu> .same l\e)ior( (hi.s ollieer sjieiik.s of (lie imlivea Noeuriii^' 1,200 to 1.400 voiiii}; fm. soivl.s Id tronsih (liroiiuli ()oiial.i.;a I'iims. Speeial .\^eiil IV U. 'rnylor, in l.^Sl,s(a(es (liiil tlui ('oiii|iaiiy wa.i poweileH.s (o priMeel. Ilie i.ihiiiils. hnt tlial {f 1} hnrtitiir iOdii hiiilt oiiii ,1 .siiitm-loiiiii'h xttitioncii tit iitch i.iloml tlui/ rotiltl hi' /iroli-ilr<l. I||, 8(«tos tlmt ves.ieks i/o lo the ixlunds am) kill 10,000 to l.'.OOO o-i/iitr, mii/ llmt 100 rrivifl.i linn Inn, jnvirlinii olxwl l/n.tr i.<liiiiil> /or luriitii i/iiir.i. (11. U. Kx. Doe. No. 'MH'.\, ,")0(li t'oii);resh, p. .O.S.) Mr. I'rea.siiiy Aneiil H. A. (iliiKleii. wlio wii.s on (lie iNliiiul.s Iroiii I.S.S'J to lUHfi, hIiowh thiil, ili|, livulile is at llu- ^s7(Ul<l'.^. The IniiUers i;o (lieie mi iiiooiilit;lit niglil.s. lie Hditeil that lie took puHse::siiiii of a ve.ssel while the eivw weiv on shore killing' seals. The (toveriiiiieiit, lie f^oes on lo say, ilid imt keep vessels theii' in his time, ami he reeomiueiuleil (hat a reveiiue-eiitter slioulil lie kept (lieiv In guanl the islaiuls. (II. U. Kx. Poe. No. ;!SS;i, ,"iO(li ( 'oi|M|ess, p. 'J,S.) Trior to the ileeisioti of the I'uiteil ."stales to arrest, vessels oulsiile the l!-mile liiiiil, in lieluiiiu's Sen experioiiee hail shown that the ) oliee Coree at the islaiuls eoiihl mil. proieet them Iroin raiiii I'lns is illustratcil in a letter fiiuii the Seeietary of the Treiisuiy, Mr. W. MeCiilhn ,i, ilateil the '24lh l''elirii;uy, ISvS,"'. wherein he reeommeiiils that 2,"'.000 ilollars lie oliUiiueil for the ;iroteeti(iii of seiils aiiil ilir inidavomeiU of tho laws : " Tho unit ttRhrrii'^," hn BlAtm, " ] inlil Annually In Ilir (inTfniiiivnt n rcvniiin uf iiliniit 3(10,(100 doKftm. Tlic (•(■lulu nn whii-li t|i,< Mftlt nrr taktMi nn* pnitivtiM fmni (noiirninnx ,if iiiMiiiiiiliiix iiitMolii nlniit* tlirtitiKli tlin iTiiixiuK of tho roTninui-riitt^TFi, l^niit jrrnr tlic nfhct'ni of tlif ' i'nrwin ' Mcitnl a Ht'luioniT ongHKoil in Ukiiig tPAlR iinlunrully. Without (tip um of outtors tho fiir-tii'iil iiidiMtry liin no protot'iuin." The letter eloses hy a-skiiy for 'J.'i.OOO iloUai'H ''ill the Kstiinotos for next ycnr." (II. It. V.\. Doe, No. '2o'2, 4Sth I'oiiijn'ss, 'Jiul Session, vol. xxix,) Septeiiibor 1, l.'^Sl, the llaniluiru'li sehooner "Allele" was .seized fir violation of seelidii l',),'Mi, UovisiHl Siatutes, rnitod States. In 1S.'^4 Captain Mel.eaii, master of the sehooner " Mary KUeli," was in lleliriiij;'s Sea from tlio 8tli .^ly t.> the ll'Jiiil .\iii;iist. Me took 'J, 007 seah', ami was not inlerferiul with. (See his ileilunilvii umWi Vet lor the Snpiin'.ssion of Mxlra-iiiiiieial aiul X'oluntary Oaths.) Mr tieoi-ge Waiilman. an otiieer of the Initeil Stjites' (ioveninient, was at tho Seal Islaiul.-i Miiy 18S5. Ho wa.s also llieiv in 1S7'.', aiul, in luUlilion to his oviilonee liohiru the (^oiif,'ressiiinal Coiiimilli'i:, ho hius iviHirloU to his (ioveriinient. ami has written a book ujioii .Miiska ami Helirin^,'',i .Sea, " Wanliiiiiii'ti Trip lo Alaska." piiblished in l,SS4. At |i. llii 4' this is n;iven an aeeount of tho raidiii;,' of (lllii Isliuids, and the eonseipienl renuest for a revemu' iiarine ^niaiil at that phico during tho BuiiUiig .sciiwni, wliioli was p-aiitod. hi 18S,"i Captain Mel,ean aj,iiin visited Helirin^'s Sea in the " Mary Klloii." Ho was tlioie lium tlio 4th July to tho or\\ Septombor. Ho took 2,300 seals, and was not iiitcrforod with. Ca\itaiu Hoaly, in roi>ortun; on tho cruizo of tho " Uorwin " in tho Uehriiij,''s 8ca, in 188,"i, when speaking of tho .seal tisherics, said : — " nuring thi- yoar quite i numlier of irrMrIa hsvo raided Aluknn waters for •«*]» and other fur-brarini; animali," (H. R. Ki. I)oi'. No. I.^3, 49th Congrots, Itt Seaaion, vol, xxxii.) In ISSti tho Govoinor of Alaska, in his Keport for that yoar (p. 4o), .states that an indiseriiiiimiU' slanjjhtor was eavriod on prenou.'i to the seizures of 1886. In 188t> Spooial .\i;ent Tiiiolo, to Seeivtary l-'airohild, eoiigiutulated tlio (jovoiiiuiont on the iim'.4 of the " San Diego." which he aiUed " aii old otVonder." " This," Mr, Tinglo roiimrkod, " will do much 445 t<i biviik lip liinliiililili^! liiiHiiii'HH iiriiiivd Ihr t.iluinln." Hn I'lirlliiT iii;m'i| IIic ( Iovitiiiili'IiI In koiij) ft iMitlcr d'l'i"' ""' i"l"ii(l.i I'lniii IIm' IhI .IiiIv I>i (In- ImI, NiivcMilicr. The ivIpiivi' ii'lcii'iid'H, il. in Hiiliiiiilli'il, iviIjiIiIImIi ((iinliiHivcly llii> (li'liMicdlcHH (Miiidilidii of lliu iHliiiiilH I'ltilii II"' ili'|iri'iliiliiiiiH III' lliii iiiiiriiinli'iM nr |iiiiirlii'i'M ii|iiiii I In' niiiki'iii'K Oiol nun lii'iii;^; ii Ciiiiiiiliiiii) rvnr gjllCI'llll' ImIiUhIh I'lllllll illtll llll' IKIHHIIMHillll III' lllll ('mini SIllll'H. Mr. Itlailii', in Imh ili'HpnUli ol'tlii! 'JTIIi .liiiiiiiiiy, IH'.in, ii'|iiiiiI<h llml " I'rnrn'iHiilC 'ijl n i^lixio •ilii'iliFiiiT In Iliu liiwn iif Nitiirn, iiiiil rl(lill]r llmlllnit Ilin niiiiilirr In hi' niiiiiinlly nlmiKlili'ml, ilir Ijiivmi' nint lucmilril In liicrmiiiiiK tlio liilnl niiiiiliur nr imnla iiiiil ulilliiK <Hirri'ii|ioiiilliiKl)i miil larxi'l; tn lli» vnl f Ilii' llnhrrlM." Ami ill llll* Miuno iliiH|iiilrli lii< npi'iikn iil' l.lii' prnllUililn piirniiil, ni' llii.'i ImimIiii'nm ijnvvii (,ii IIk; your ISSCi. 'I'll sliiiw llml lit Mill pri'Mi'iil. limn Uii' viiliiii III' lllll iiilriiiilM in i^ri'iiLrr iiml llii'ii' luiiililioii Ih lirtUjr tliilll I'Vrr. it IH iillly lii'i'i'HHiirv 1" iiliiirrvi' lliiit. wliiln llii' lulu Iiimsi'I'h piiiil I.11 tlii' ' inviTliiiii'lit nf llio (Jiiid'd Sliili'M nil iiiiiiiinl ri'iiliil nl' .00,01)11 ilnlliiift in inlilllinii In :j ilul. Kl, c, jii'i' Hhiii Inrllii' Inliil niiiiiln'r liilii'li. llll' nlli'ix. wlii'li Irlin IhIiuiiIh wi'Ii' put, up Inr riiiii|H'til ion in IH'.IO, wi'f rliiirinuilHly iixiiiiiili'ij, ;i,H will llll Mi'i'ii nil ri'I'i'iriirii lull Hrhi'iliilii 1)1' lllll pinpiiMiilH Hiiliiiiilli'il l,ii llii I 'iiili'il SIiiIi'h' 'I'li'iiMiiry |lt'|iiiilMii'iil ill ri'HpiiiiHi- tn till' iiilvi'iiiHi'iiii'iitH nf lllll 'I'li'ii.miiy iiiviliiii^ nll'iTii Inr tliii piivili'i.MiM, iliiti'il (III. 'jllli I I'liiliiT, IHH'.I, iiii<l till' ;!ii||i Ki'liiiiiiry, IHDO. rpiili I'l'li'li'lici' In till' I'viili'lii'r lii'l'iiii' tlii' < 'ii|i^;ii'H!iiniiiil ( 'niiilni'lrc (II. It. Nn. :iHH.'i, nOtli < 'nii;;ii.'Hii, jnil Sr.Hsiiiii), it will lid hiii'Ii llint " llm (Invi'lliini'iit iinw, irilhuiii mil/ riiir or i-ijil,\ i-fin IH7,I''I0 ilnlliiiH ii-yi'iir Inr till' liuiHii." Anil iit p. !('.• nt till' Hiiniii lii'pnii, it in Htiitcil lliiit till! iinniiiil jiiinnii'. I'lmii nkinH ui'tlii' (liivi'iiiiiiniit WHS .ilL'.T^It'i ilnlliirK, iiiiil llml In .Mi\tci'ii yijiiiH tliii liiiiloil .'^tiilcH' (Inviiiiipiiiit ri'iiiivi'il rrmn Ilin .MiiMkiin I'lir-Ni'iil imlimlry H.liOI'.TVli iIiiIIium. Il i-i I'tirllii!!' Hliiti'il tlmt llll' ( iiivi'i'iinii'iil liinl tlini iilri'inly Ih'I'Ii mpiiiil llm I'lipihil siim p;iiil Ini tlm wliiilr Ti'iiitnry III' .Miinkii, iinil iiinin, with " Iiit iiiiiny vniiril, lunl, iw I lii'lnvn, nn niiipiinililv ;.;iiiit niiliiiiml niHiiiiicii.'i, tn riipii'Hiiiit lliii invcHtiiimit nl' capiliil lirnl nmilii." " Fifth.— 7'A» lltcnpli anil liipiiun iif tht Oovrrniitriil an acmunl u/imt fimhacl. "Till' lotiil •dliiiint pitlil liy llll' Idimi'ii nn itii'niinl nf milil miiilrnil up In llir .llllli .liini-, IBHH, ini Iwivo, wni ri.VJT.I'lll ilnllur". riii'liiliil nm.ilMil I'lpi'liilml hjr llll? (Invrriiiiii'iil ililrlliK lliii niiini' pinml »«• nl I 2MI,llllll ilnllnr« (or Kiiiiirii'n niiil llnvillinK rip.'ii«i..i of At'iilii iif 111" 'rrmiillrv lli'pnrliiii'ut. al llin .Spnl IkIiiiiiIk, atnl nliniil l.'ill.OIIII iliiltirn fnr llii' ri'vi ini'-iiilli'iii iruixiiiij Alu<liiiri iitern. " Til Oil' AinnunI alri'nilf ri'i'i'lvfil ilirrnt frnin thp ('nmpiiny ulimilil hi' nilili-il III" miin rrrrivrd )iy Oi" Utiili'il Sliif ri frnrri < iinlnin^ ilulirmili Alnalliin-llrriiM'il arnliilliliK Inipiirli'il frnm lliirnlir. aiiiniinliliK In .1,4'.tfi,llllll (InlliiM, In wliiili >liniil'l lir nililiil llii^ aiiiii nf ^(I'i.OnO ilollKrn I'llHliiliiH tliltji'u nn jinpiirli'il ni'iiUkliiH hiiirii liy irniil ( .nnpiuiy iinilfr lU i-niitni' 1 willi l(.ia..iii, riiiikini; u;i H|{Krrifiit(> im.nliit rr.'i ivril liy llii' Itiivi'riiiiii'iil 1111 ni'.otiiil i.r lliin liiilii^try nf \l,:i2'i,2yA 'InljiirH, In iiit( Z,'^2'l,'i^<^ in i-im-hh nl lli«. ani'iunt. piiiil Ifi RuMiii fnr llin 'i'lTrlliiry." (Urporl. of (^iti^rFHH, IKBH.) I I It ciill linw III! hIiiiwii linw iiiiuvnllnim liiiH Irtuiii tlio iiiricimii nl' h<1!iIh nii llid.mi jhIiiiiiIh, nntwitli- Htliniliil^ llin iiliHi'liri! Ill' till' pinliirtinti In till' iniiknl'ii'H lunl li-niili'. limit, wlinlliiir mniiiiil fliii iHliiriilH nr ;it till' ilini'ii'iil piiHsi'H ill till' Ali'iiliiiii niiini', wIh'Ii' tliii liri'i'iliii^ hi'1iI,< in pup i^n twin' ;i yi'ar. Ill IHIi'.l Spiinial Ajji'.nt I'lryiiiit I'Mliiniilcil tliii iiiiiiili(ir nl' hcuIh tn \m iih InllnwH t'llwl (;nii;,'ri«H, HimI S('8Hinii, Nn. .'ili, Sdniilc, ]>. 7): — ■On Ht. I'mil liiliiMil , On St. (ii'nrgft Iiiliiiiii, ToUl In 187-1 Mr. Rlliutl, after oxiitniniitioii, cHtiiimtcil tlin nunilidr nf hduIk tn liu ; — 1. 163. mill ,'i7C.oiio l,72H,()il() •On HI. I'liul iHliinil . On St. (Jenrgu lulunil. ToUl s.ojo.niKi 1113,420 3,193.420 ixrliisivii nf noii-linuMliiifr Hiials, ami uildiiin thoHO tn thf rstiinatt; nf Mr I'^llinll jii'ii ijiinlcil, lio liiinsi'H'siiiil that till! tntiil wmilil rt'iiidi 'l.TDO.OOO. Ill \i<>i\, Innn al'tiir tla; piiriml wlii'ii ^\l. M<:Ilityi'i! Htalnil Unit tlm m:n\n wi;ri! liocreaaiii;^ — an Ua .Hiiiil siiicii IKSLI-Mr. Wiirilmiui, when writiiii^ finiii tin: LhIuiiiIm, tells lis — "Till' nunilior nf Bi-nlii in HU'odily inrrciifliiiK." (" A Trip to Alaskn," jt. 91.) Mr. II. A. (iliililiMi, an A^'oiit (»f tlio Tr(;n,siiry frnni IHH2 tn tho 8tli .Inni', 188.";, an aiillmrity i|iiotcil iiy Mr. liliiiili'. in su|i]inrt nf tin; I'liitcil Slat(in' rnntnlilinn, tuM thn Oini^rnnsiniifil <,'nimiiilli;o in |.'(88, in re]ilyiiii,' tfi thi; qiicHtimi, " What (In you ."lay u.\niut tliu iiicroaso nr (liiiiiniitinn nf tin; nmnlicr nf m;ul« on tliu rnokorios of St. I'atil ami St. Ocorgo ? " "I iliil not iinlii« any cliniigi' 1 rould not Bre any pnrtiriiliir ilifft-nmrr. Tliey comii am! tiavc itieir young ami ((o away. Hw {lerioil of gestation in rtcvtrn mniiOiR, and tlii-ii tlioy rninu Imrk in tin- Rpring following. They are ttien; during th'r MiaHoii in niintlfiii numberi " (Ktideni;!! hcfiirc Congreaiional CoDimittra, p. 27.) Mr. (Jcorgc It. TinglPi a Sjit'cial Afjnnt nf the Treasury, gave his evidence hefore the same L'oraniilteu, and lie is put fnvwaid by Mr. Blaine in suppnrt nf llii! Uiiitfil States' cnnlentinn. (Appendix to Mr. Ulainii's hotter to Sir .Julian raunecfnte, March 1, \>. 17. J CnnfuTninp; Mr. (Jlidden's n])inioii, as above ([Uoted, Mr. Tilij^'le said : — "From Mr. Elliott'a HtAtcment 1 undor.stnnd that (here are no more seala now than there wen.- in 1872. 1 am at a I-ibi to know bow Ur. KlUott got liie Inforinition, u he bad not been on the itianda for fourteen yean." M i) h n ui 440 '^^ Till' siiiiic Mr Tinnlo. in ISS7. iv|»iiIim| In SoornUry l''iiiri'liilil lliiit: ' lli> liinttil llio littrn <tl lAtaittlini; lii')itM)l tli>iii> or lii^t y<*>tt', itnil llii' I'-iWK ((ilttn im ilriinnly )iilt-lifil nn Ihi- «""ll«l .., niMtl .if tl(o liti'liiMit'^, \(hiNl on IWit i.ittkcfii'* (lii'n' \t «■ fullnti 'iir. // if fM'/.iiM. It.iwi'vrr. (Iii'i \ii«t iiiimlu't mI Miiirtml, \nliiitlili' 111 Mil' (io»i ninii'tH, nii' ptill nn Ihi' inoroanc. Thf iiiiiililloii nf nil tlio r""k"rl''i rniilil hoI In' hiiilci," ^ V|i|n'nilit in l(, ,!,„'' t'mintviiiiloniil ('innnnllw', IH^M, \\. .Iftll.) Ill II Iv'i'i'oil nl llic Aliinkii ( 'iiiiiiiii'iviiil I 'iiiii]>iiii\ 1 l:llli Pi'i'i'iiilii'l. |HH7)il Im mIhIciI llnil Mi. lli.nf,,,. i; riii;;li'. Ilii' A;;riil ii|i|iiimi1i'iI liy llii' Scrn'liipv ni' lln' 'riciimirv. MiiliMlinil iiilly niiiliniiM Mi, |;||iii|| jn Ins vii'W I'l'I'i'Vii'il In iilmvc, ('M'l'plili); lliiil, ii|iim ii niii'l'iil mirvcy liy liiiiiMi'lr in IMMil, In' I'lliin;,!,,,! Iliiil lilt' liiv si'iil-i ii|ioM till' IVMi iMliniil'i liMil iiii'ii'iiKcil III niniiliri iilimil 'J.OUil.Ullll n|i In llmi in,,,, Mr Tiiifi,li''N I'NiiiiiMii' I'm- IMSi'i ih r).:i:t7,V."iii (11. Ii. I'A. Pi"'^ Ni'. '■>\. .'"Ill I 'niii;niM'4, InI Hi"wiiiii), nml i,, I >i'ri'niliiir till' .\liiMkii • 'niiinn'vciiit < 'iiiii|iiiiiy. in llii'ir lii'|iiirl, Miiiil tliiil lln- hi'iiIh wmv nn ||,„ 'I'lic IiiIchI ili'liiiili' inroiniiilioii ii|i|M'iiiiii!', in llic I'liili'il SIiiIi'm' liuriiinrlil) ir;;iiriliM!; lli.' i .mdiii, nl' till' iduKi'virM I'i innliiiiu'il in liii' Ui'|"irl i<( Mr. Tin;;li'. wliu, n.i S|ii'('inl .\i;i'nl. nl Ijir Tii.;in I'l'l'iiilini'iil, Willie riiini SI. I'linl I.mIiiiiiI, AIiihKii. IIh' I'I.hI .Inly, \MH. nn InllnwM: " 1 iiin It'ipi'X In III' illili' l<i rri'.nl llnil, itll)nni|^li I..||r liiinliliK, llt«> hl-fnliliK rnnkrrlrff An* flllcil mil In lln< lilipa nf iiirnvtirrtni Iii>rf1nfinr nitnli', nml r.inni' of tlnnii tiinch In yniiil llipvc liiifK, tili.minK ('<nti<lll«ivt>i]r tlinl m'lil liTi' ih mil. Iii.intr ili.|)l4.|t<il, Init m fi, tin' i-iilininlt'" KiTini in my Ki>|Mirl nl IHih;." ly ii|' I.. h'loni llii' nlmvi' I'nilcil Sinli's' nlliriiilM il in cli'iir (linl, Willi mily piiilinl |iriili'i'liiiii mi llm iilninh ho si'iil.s iiiivc iiii'ii'iiMi'il III nn iitnii/iii!' ilciji'i'i'. Iiniil.i. rniiliiinin;; ill I.MT'I Ilii" liiljji'.'il, iiiinilH.r il sciiIm I'M'r luniiil in I In- liislnry nl' Hi'iillii;; nl. iiiiy |iliii'i', cniiliiiii In iliiy ii iiinii' iiMlniinilli.^. Wlii'ii ilii' iininlii'r wiim Ii'sm tlinii Imll' nl' wliiil. il is iit. |iri'Hi'nl. I.ii'iili'nniil WiiNliliiirn M;iyii:iiil. i,| 111!' rmli'il Slnli'.s' iinw. wiis iiiHlriu'li'il In tnnln' nn invi'sliynlinii iiiln Ijii- innililinn nt' Il II' llir llllili. nf llii' Ti'iritiiry nl Aln.ikn, nml in \>"ii In' ri'|inili'il llinl I rj.lllKI ynntitj niiili' hi'iiIm liinl ln'i'ii iniininlly killi'il ill I'ncli yi'iir, I'min ISTC In ISTI,nn llin iHlninlM rnin|iii.'<iii;; llm I'riliylnv },'riiii|i, iiinllii' ilnj nn lliink llinl tlii.s iliiniiiishi'il llin nuinlii'is. j.ii'iili'iinnl Mnyiinni'.'i l\i'|inrl ( lllli ('niii,'ri'M.'4, J.><| .Srssinn, II. Il Nn. i;!), IIS well ns llinl nl' Mr. Itryniil. in IHliil {^V,\. I Inc. Nn.;!^, 11,^1 CniinrnHH, linil .Siw;iiiii), liii'(;i'ly sii|i|inrl,s ilin I'niiliinlinn nl' llii' ('nimiliiin linvcrniiinil I'l'Hiuiclin^ llm iirnilnrlivciirMM nl Mm sriii luul Ilii'ir linliilM dnrin.i; llm Inci'iliiij^ scnsmi. Il IS iini ilciiii'il llnil .si'iils I'liicr I'n'liriiig'.s Sm I'nr tlm imriin.si! nl' itwnrl.inK lit tin' iHliiml.s I .yiiti' lliiMi' s)ii'rii's. mill lu'ciiiisn tlm inr liciil i.s cliii'll',' cniilliu'il to llin iHlniiiln I'nr II II |irn|i:i. ll.S |nn|iiNi. luriiii; till' liii'i'ilili.i; sciisnli it is tliiil llic sniils liiivc sii rnnslnnlly ilicrriuicil Nnlwillislnnilinj; llii' l,ix I'lVnrls nn tlm imrt nl' tlm I'liitcd Slntrn In uniinl nr (intinl Ilir lnvi'ilin;; lsl;inil;<, till' illlliriillN nl" njiliinni'liili;.; Ilii' rnn^ll rnilst.s tlli'ivnl', tlm |iri'Viili'lli'n nl' rn};s, mill ntliiT r,iiiK|.s luiV',', III n lnri;i' iln.ijli'i', lU'i'Vi'iilcil tnn ili'strililivn nr Inn nniiii'lniis iiii'ls licini; ininli' ii|iuii lln rnnkcni's. Till' ('miiiilmn (invcrnincnl nnnti'inls timl wliilc snnl.'' in rnll' nri' Inki'ii nn mnl nil' tin' iiiiisl.i i>| Itritisli Cnliiinliin mnl Cnlilninia, mnl i mul Alcnh-.tlii' I'lilK nl ilm sinls inkcii in III liiriii'' tlii'ir nii'jrnliniiM iirnr tlm .Mi'iitimi Islmnls liv linlii (' n|M'n .sen i if I lint imrl 111' llm I'lirilir I ti'rmi r lUi'il .Sen niv Imlls, bill II nlil mill yniin^j; Iml rliii'lly ynnnji mnl llinl innsl nl' llm rnus, wlmii Inkm, nir Kinnvii ns " ilry inws." ;.(,, inws tlinl. Inivi' inirsnl mnl wniimil tlmir .>niiiij,', nr cnws Iliiit, iiro Imnvn, nr llmsi llmi linvc Inst )iii|i.s I'rniii nnlinnl I'mi.scs. It iiiu.st nl.sn 111' iinli'il llmi lln'in mn iiinrc I'l'iiinli's tlinn iniilt's in n lirnl nl' .snils. ("'rriptn Aliiskn," Wiinlinmi, p. '.M.) Tlm ]insitinii tnki'ii liy tlio I'mimliiiii linvcriimrnt is siipiinilwl — t. I>v till' liL-itniA nl" tlm rnnki'rics ns nlnivn I'ivrii mnl tlm ''I'l'iil iiii.'rcusi' .si killiii,^ mill runts iiimii llu' is slmuls ilnriiii; tin' I'nsl rriiliiry. in\vii,il('M| IcMjiilc I II' I mmliiiit liy llic I'ncl tlinl llm nlil hulls llinl '"ivc liccn iililc to linlil tlmir |inMitiiiii nn Mm rnnLcrii's i,'n inln the wnlcr nt llm cinl nt' tlm iiitliiiL; scnsnii, liclwccii tlm Isl mnl IIMli Aiij;iisl. (II. Ii. I''.x. I >iii'. Nn. .'i:l, ■l-ltli I'nti'jvcss, 1st Scssinn. .Viii'i li|'('llillX. |l. i;!::.-! Mr, I'lnrk, nn tlm .Viilnr,''. ic .scnl lislicrics, in "'rim l'"islii'rics mnl l''isliciy Iinliislrics in Llm ruittil Stntcs," 1SS7, p|>. 'iL';!, rjl, sn>s :-— " 111 vciy iiliirniy Wi\-i1ln'r. wlirn liny ^1 lir niiilii) tin' ilrivrn intn (In' .ii'n, lln'y iirr fnri'i'il In In'lukr lln'lllM'Ivrft In llii' ili.ltrriii nil- ol" llir islan.l. hciui' tlip nu'ii tnui llmt uliirmy wi'illinr iir.VK llipin li!'.--!. Two or llir iM iniili'ii. Irnnril ' bnirli-iinipli'ni.' Ii.ilil ^ iinl I'liviT n «illi I'.iwn. linl iilliiw tin nlliiT iitnli'n In liuiil np. 'I'ln' iiiiili'ii fttilit iurnninly, nttii nnr iiiiiii liilil iti" lit his ii'i'lli iiiiii iliriiw him iiiUi Ihi' iiir. Tin' mulnt show tinli' wl »lii|i|vd,aiil hrtn'li fn llu tnM'i\r!i ii lli.it In' tiHil .irt'ii Hit iiiil lii.-ili' tako tl)i n yntin^i' nn' iTitli i;rt'AI ilitluully iliivcii intn tilt' m'A, riipy iir. Miiniiitni's trMtnl with linrrilil.' Iirnulity. I'lip finiitli^ii give hirlli In tin' young ioon after tlioir arritMl. AltiT leAvnig tin' rniiki'itc* ihr liuUd do lint ri'iurii to llii'in an-iiii tlinl tii^niioii." :\. \\\ tlic fnct tlinl Iwn-thiiils nt' nil tl m iiinlcs tlini mt ,0 liix'ciliim-'^rniiiul; '11 mv nn StiUv n lire never jieriiiitteil In liiinl ii|iiiii '.lu' ■hen it rixit^ land, lienl.s miles a\v;iv I'ri'iii (11. W. Kllinll. li. 1{. Nn, ;(S8:i, nlllli Cnn.-rcss, p. I 11',) n nil" intn the wnler. ((,'lnrU's article nil Aiitniclic sen.! lishci'y iniUKstricsnl' the I'liilO'l siUlio Ljnniiul with the I'cnialcs. 'I'liis lnr;;e U tlv mil nf linchelnrs, ii sccllnll ,1 vnl. ii, 1Sj^7 p. VM.) Vnuiit; seals are prcvciitcil trniii laiulili] ' nil innk kerics. iKx. I Inc. 8;t, 44th I 'iiii''rc.s.H, 1st Si'.s.<ioii. I), '.'n ; see alsn KUintl, II. I!., 4 nil ( ingress, 1st ^^'sslnll Year! iiiL.' sells nrrivi ,it tl IC inn hUe nt" ilnlv Kx. Dnc. Xi CCnlll|imiil '>■) nl liy II few nt' tlio iiialiiie iii;ilc\ reiuainiiig a i^ieaUr ]inrt nf the time in the water. (H. II. iMcliityre, 4i,st Coii>,'Vcsh, iJiid Scssinn, II. 1 Nn. oli, p. 14 ; iilsn II. l\. Kx. 1 »nc. -In, 1st Scssinn, llili ( 'niij;rcss, ji. 4.) Mr. Siiinnel l'"alkiicr. Assistant 'rrcnsury Ai^ciit. wrilinj: from St. (.iooryc Isliiiid, 1st Aiigii.st, 18'? to Jlr. I'lrymit, Trcasiiiy Agent for the Seal Islands, says: — 447 I' I inili'i' "" ""in" "'^ ""''""'"'''"•"'" I'"""'"""'"' '"'""'''> "'■""(''"I ''» T"""!! •iirlli'liirii In Inicilmii ii|i'iri Ih.' Imrlniniiriil, ,rp riiiii|'l''l''lr III'"'!""' "I' ''T fi'i""!'". Ih"" |ir.'»rMllMU lln' »ii'in« nrila ftuin IniMlinK ; niiil ii> llip (nnli.r |iiitliuii nf thi< i>laiiil •Innr m ^„„in.iinl "I iiiuli I'lill". i' "iiilrri 11 clllflrull fur iiiir eri-Kt iiurnh.T In rltril n l»iiiliri(. 'riiTi' urc iilaii n i.rniK .I'll nmlix rMtKlnnlly u)irili')f( tilt' "liori- line, wliK'li ninliea )l Rtill iimitp <lklfi>'iill for ttif> v'lniK ninx) In work llif ir whjt mii Iho l«irkt{r'>iitiil " Till 11. M^^iiill, II IiiiihI 1m' II' till 'III I II 1 1 'I I 1 1 III I I lie liciii liii'i'iliiij^ HiMiJH, ciiiiiiiMliiii; III' nil I lii' vi'iiiliii;' i iiihI 1,11 till' lllllli"* llll'I'T •' "I' T VI'IIVH III' (l|,'l', lll'llllv l'l|ll:ll III IIIIMlli(r till' lilircliiiit mnlf), mill Ml. I'lllllill mlillllllril. wlii'll llii'lr Wi'iii 'I.TlM'.OdU himiIm nil llir i .liiliil. |,.MMI.O0() i,( |Ii|m niltiilii'l' wiTi' liiili lilriiliiii; hi.{i1k. (Klliiill, A|i|"'iiili\ I" II. It I'.x. I'l" Nil. K.'i. I till ('ciii;;ii'MH, ImI. Hi'Sfiioii, [1 T.Kj Uii llili'k rii;';,'.V ilayi liiiilii'lnr hchN, iiiiiiilii'ijn;; ipvit a iiiillinii. will nfti'ii liiiiil mil. mi ilifli'mil, liiiiiliii^ iiiiiiiiiiIm. iiimI nil till' ICC iiiii'iiii' III' Inn wriillirr ili,Mii|i|ii'iir intn tlm wiilf-r. (Kiiiuli, |i III, II I!,, mil I iiliyii'HN, l.4l, Si'.'^.'iinii, |';x, |)(ir. No. H.'i.) Till' vniiiiy liin'lii'lmH ilu iinl ii'iiiniii mi 'ilimi' Imi;; nl ii limi' (i'i>',<i' I, I llli ( 'mi!,'ii'MH, IhI Hi'^i.ninn, |.;v pur. Nil. I'!.) Tlii'V lire All iiiiiiii'riiiiH, linwi'vrr, llnil tlimmiiiiil.M run Im huiiii ii|iiiii l.ln' liiiiiliii;; j,'i'miiiilK, ih nil nl' llll'lli nil' Ili'Vrl' cillli'l' nil hIiuI'i' iir ill Ilir wiili'l- ill, llin Hliini' lillH!. ( lliiit., |i '14.) Hv llii' fiii't tliiit till' riiWH ri'iiiiiiii witli llii'ii |iii|ih iiml Hipklf! t.lictii iiiilil nil liiivc Icl'l. TJiry ilii mil ^;|' mi 'In' niiilic'ii'.'^ iiiilii 'i ymii'i nf ii;!i'. (II. I,'. i')x. I»i>r , t'ltli ( ''iiii,'n'HM, IhI Si'M-timi, Ki.. 'CI. I-. ■• ) Tlii'V ilii linl' C'l I'll!' ri'iiMi 'ili'ii'' iiiilil (III' yiiiiii!,' nil' I'l'iiii'il, I'rrmi Hiiyq llmt, Imlli jiiiriint rirplinnt, miiili) •'fliiv willi III" ymiii!:, willimil li'i'iliiiy ill. iill, iiiili! Iliij ymiiii,' iu<i C or 7 wi'i'kn nlil, lunl llint tliMi llii' iilil 'ili<''f riiiiiliii'l. till' yiiilli!; Ill III" wiiliT. f('liii'k'H nrtirln on Aiitiin'l.ii'. hi'iiI.h. |i. V1\.} Till' yiiiMi^ III" Hiickli'il liy tin' I'l'innlrH liir hoiimi liiin' niiil tlii'ii Icl'l, lo Mii'Iiimi'Ivi'm, lyiri;,' mi t.lic jiiiiic'li. wlicrc lliry HiM'iii In c^'iiiw Int. willimit fiiiHii'l' I'lji'iliiit;. ("'I'lii' {''Lilii'iii's iiiid Kirtjiiiii; IriiliiMt.ricM iil'llii! I'liilril .SliilcH," Hi'i'linii 5, vol, ii, |HK7, |i. -H'f.) Kiir thin rwiHoii IIhwo llml, iirij |iu|i|)i'i| in .liiiin unMilliii Ml" wiiliT ill Aii(^iihI. So, iiliin, (111 III" Al'iiriiii cnnHt, llio B(!iil rpiimiii'i until tli" ynim;^' cnn Inkc cnicnl' tlimiiKi'lvc-i, (Had., |i.41('i.i Till' lilllk nf till' M('iil.4 nil' I'niitiiii'il tn l.llC iHliillil.K until in^ Him-nilllilfl tlimil. (II. I!. I'',X. line. Nn. j.'i, 44tli f'liii^ri'i'KM, iMt .'^ciMsimi, )i. 'i.) Til" ."fi'iilM iH'Vi'P li'iivir trlicir filiici'H, Hclilnin mIi'<'|i, luiil iiDViT I'lit niiytliiii^ Irmn Mny l.n AiiiniMt, wlii'ii tlii'y tiiki' In llii' uiitiT, liiit, it Im lii'lii'Vi'il. tnkc nn I'nnil niilil tlicir liiinl (|('|i,iitiii(' in .N'ovcmlnr. II. II. Mi'llltyi'i'. II. ii. I''.V. line. Nn. .'Wi, \\n\. ('nii;_r||.f<M '^\i,\ Siw.Himi, vnl. v.; Ml. I'',llinlt .HIIVM, " |ii'lllll|iH mIhi I'i'I'iIh " f|i. I.'IO, lii.'l lli'pnit, on AlllHkil, IH".!, M. l;. [''.X, |)nr Xn. Xil Mill ('iiii^:iv!«) Till' liiilli. wliijn nn tlic i'lliiiiil. iHi'Vi'iit till' iiintlicri tiikiii;/ tn llin wntiT. (" Mniiiii' .M.'iiniii.il-i," liy ('ii|itiiili Sliiiiiiinii, I'liilcil SImIi'm' lii'vi'iiiii' Mniiiic, IHTI. p. ITil!.) I'liiiii till' MMli In till' J.-illi .Inly Hm' innki'iir.t iiin I'iiIIit tliiiii lit niiy ntlicr tiiiii' iliiriiii; tli" .mii=!mi iH till' |iii|ii linvi' nil lii'i'M linlli, mill nil tlin IhiIIh, i:nw.'i, iunl |iil|m rniiKm villiin lluir liviilit. (II. I!. y,\. liiir. Nil. \'i, 'I'llli < 'minii'.^H, l.st .ScK.finn, p. .'!.; It liiiH lii'i'ii hIihwii lliiil wlmn in llin Minkciii'M nintlicin with dcHtrnycil. tlic yniiiif; wciii rniiml ilciiil, Ac, ImiI rrnri'MHiir I'lllintt, in icl'i'i-ciidi to the I'riliylnv iKliinil!<, Mfiya:— " Willi l!ir I'lrrptloii of tliii«i» nnittinl^ wliirli Imvn riMTivril woiiiifln in cnmbnt, n'» %\pM or (lyin|[ nflnU nrf- m^in upon tttc inUriH*. " Oul of 'III' lirriil nilliilii'iH, llioilHoiiilii ii(Hin IlKiiiiintiilii, iif ncalit I lint liiiint ilin tfcry yi-np fr'iln "lit sif" Mliinr. ii'il on*- li^Ti- I pvrr mil liiri'. Till) c viilintlY kI'I" "[i •lii'l'' Ii"'" "I »'»." 'Hi" l'r|i"rt ii AlnnVli, IH74. II. K. Kt. Dur. No. H,1, 44lli Cmit."'"', p. I ■'''!.) Til t'liitlii'V pvdvc thiit till' riintriitinii nf tlii' ('iiniiilimi I Invcninii'iit i.'i nnt iit nil iintc'iHomililc, it niny lii'iiiiil tliiit lit the Inti'lilntimml Kifllmrii'i Mxhihitimi, I/inilnn, IHH.'i, Mr. Ilrnwii (Inniln. nf the (,^iitei| ile the niimtiuil ^1 Sliiti's' l''i;sli ( 'ninniisHinn, hiiviii;,' .'itnteil the lieellliitinn.s nC the Uniteil Stiiten' r,niie(!niint,' the I'liliylnv ^i'oii|i, tin; nllli'iiil Kepnrt iipnii the l*',xliibitinii n.\yH : — " Kvrry iiiiiiiutl, liiitli ill hi'U nnil on Iniiil, rppriiiliircs iu kind in KrnnlBr iiiiiiitii'rn (tinu v.hu poMitdy fliint. In u\\\pr vforih. nil animflln ti'iiil In multiply liinrp nipiilly llinii tlii'ir (nnfl ; iiiiniy nt tlii'in imiihI in rnnu'ipii'iirf? cIOiit iIIp <ir Im' ili'^trnyril, iiii') niai iiniy ii'il iMiiinliril llmt, i^M fur nn llm npi'ii ni'i'iiii in riinrf'rii''il, III'' n>«l) wliinli lii' ili'Rtrnyii, \t tir nlintjini frnm ili-"lroyiii|;, winlil |>i'.'i«li in in the t'llilnl ^H "iticr wHVi. ^^'llll rcnpiTt. In thr rnniirr (niiiU), I liiivti filrcuiiv jxijtilail nut. IIihI tlin n-Ntrictinn wliirti tin- l,'iiil4'd Stntfii' (invcrrinient li.vi Jilarni "ii Ilu' ilcHlrurtimi nl hI'iiIh In tin- .MaMkiin intmliin ".-I'lnn iinii"n"mftrily Iiirnr." He nilileil Ihlit Nutill'e IllLS illl|in.m'.il ii limit tn their (leHtl'U"tinii. I'tiit'i'SMiif i'',lliott liiiiisolf wiiH ol'th" opiiiimi in IH71 (h"" Iuh Report on Ahmka alrnnily refencil in, jiji, 8.S, .S'.lj Ihiit:-- " Witt) rfirnril to tho inrreair nf lli<< nnal Iif'*, I iln nnt think It. within thf* pownr of linmAti manai^iMiifnt to proniotr Ihi^ rnd to the sliehtrHt niiprrrinhlr ili'^riM' lirydtid iU pinornt rxtctit iitiil i-otxlitinn in n fitnUf of imtnrc ; for it. cannot f<iil to l>f! •■ftflent, from my ilflailffl iliwriptinn of thr hftliitH iiml lit<' of IIm' ftir 'umI on \Ur.tit' JHlniMJii (hiriiiK a K^cnt jirirf of the yrnr. timt, 'n<il<l mnn tiavf llm Mmr •<ii|i<'rTi<«iiiii nixl rnntrol over lltix niiiinal fliiilttf^ the vmlf n-nn-iu whirh h(> hnn nt llin f:iiiiiniaii(l wMIr tiny vmit tlir land, )if ri)i(()if riiiM' tlii-ni to rnnltiply itud iti('r<>ii<«i', nn li(* would *n rniinv cnltlc, to nn initrfuiitp nMinhiT, only ItmitPiI hy ti'iif atxt Tn<'in<*; liiit tliR mfM! in (pi(»ti(m, uiifnrlutmtcly, ttkft tli« fiir-ncHl six iiiontlH unl nf eviTv ycir fur licyrmri tlic r<'.'irh, or rvm I'mny/nnrv, of any onr. Khni' it 14 •'Xpiixcd to kinpwii pow<Tful and <l(ri>trii('ttvi' uutiir.il tticmiirH, and many otlif;r.-< proliahly iinkriown, wlrirti prfy upon ii Hrid, h iirriiHl incc with a wi||-rt'inijni/i>d law nf Nutnr'', Icrp it at aljont a ccrtiin numbtr, wliich Ir*'* hi" n for nif*!*. and will lie for th** riitu><>, >>»< iitTairH iidw nrt>, ifM ma.itmum limit of iurrra"'. 'I'liin law jioldn f^ood t'M-rywhcr<! thrrnii^lKMit tlit; nntntti kiiii^doni, rfTKiiUtini; m\ pn-^'-rvini: Ilu* rtpnlihriiini nf life in a ntatt! of niiluri-. Did it not hold ^'md lhi'*(f st-al i»land»» and all (i'-hririif'i H*'a would havf- tt»i'n litiTidly coviTrd, ami Imvi' Hwarimd with tht-m htriK hid'on- t'lc Russiai.s dinriiv(Tcd tliriii ; hut llicn- Trr** no inor<- wiU «' m nKl K<>ii liiTt! by hiitiian lyi'H ni 17hO b7 Ihun thrrr arr now, in 1H71> an far m all tvidinrr kooh. • •••»•• " What can hv doni- to prnmntr their inrn-atr ? We cnnnot ransc a gn Ht4T nnmh<T <tf fprnales Ut bt- horn pvcry yftr ; wn dn not (ourli or (liHturl) th(<n<> fcinitlt!!* an ihcy ^ruw up and live, and we nave niort; than (^uoul;!) maleM to serve thrni. Nothing more can he, iiiut; fur it is inipuFtiihlc to |>rotf(-t them from deadly t^iM>tni«>:< in tht-ir whu irriiii;! for {inu\. "'\'Wi:> ^n>at body nf innr and five millions of hcnrty ai^tivf; aniinalii nnint contiurnf! nn ennrrnonn amount of food evor)- year. I Viitnmt m7o ^B ""^^ (-'BiiiKit av'Tii[ri> ti>»N thin Ti Ihs. of fish curb piT diom (this i^ nnt half t-uough for an adult matt-), whi.ib ^ti>i thf; onsumption of I, AU„UHl, lU , ^B mr thrcv miUion ffint, iif fish i-vrry y.-ar ! "To get tilth in inenw' fond supply Ilu- tvalfl are contpdlrd lo diipcrtw over a very 'ari;** '^^t■^ «f the North Parifif: and tish, Tlii« i¥ '<' ;l 448 bring! them into fontjirt mnrc and mnru with thoir rnfmii'i «« thfy «(l»«nre Miuth, until Ihtj letrh a point where their mjij deitrnrtlon from nnlurol foci ia equal to their incre«io, and nt thii point their nuniher will remain died. About tlic Seal liljun), | have failed to notice the least diiturbaiire amoni; thrie animals by anything in the water or out, and from mjr obieryutnm 1 an, i„| |^ belloTO that it is not until they doiwnd well to the lonth in the ^ th PaciAc that they meet with iharka and »onirii>u, jju whalei."* Tho following' oxtmct from the Report of Mr. II. II. Mclntyru, Special Agout of llio Ticasurvin the islands in 18(i9, livr^'cly supports the foregoing views : — From " The habit! of the fur-ienl nre peculiar and, In coniidering thp action noceaiary to their pnjtpclinn, du«erve careful attention 1 thf (tntemcnta of the cinplnycH of tho late Kuaaian- American Company, the information deriv.il from the intcllii;rni natin. chij '-Uil of St, I'aul hlund, nnil my own observation during the summer of 1HIJ9, I have reni^hid the following roneluiions ; The sealj ^acb the Islands of St. I'aul and St. George in Moy, June, and July of eaiii year in tho following order — firit, a small numbir of nlil nu| "eals, known at ii'»y», visit tlie islands very early in tin' spring, or as scxin m the ice lias melteil aultiiHi'litly to allow them to rearl, nj rocks upon tho shore. Their object at this time seems to he sidely to reconnoitre their old rookiiries with u view to reoccupy thfj, jf they have not been disturbed, and tho nativi'B, so understanding it, ovoid nny noise likely to alarm them, and in case tlie vm\ j,,, such direction as to carry the smoko from tho Srttlenient towards tlie rookeries all tires arc extinijuished. After a few duj, n,,, pioneers take their departure, and as tlii! season advances, if they liave been unilisturbed on the occasion of their first visit, iliey reiun l)ringing with lliem all the males of mature uge, uiiove 5 or ii years old, who are able to mainloin their pilules in the br«Jin» rookeries. Climbing Ufi on the rocks, each seal selects his position and takea possession of and occupies through tlie seaioo if luHiciently strong, from one to three sijuaio rods of grnuml. Still later in the season, when the ice has nearly disappeared, the lemaie, arrive, conveyed by the young males above one year of age, wlio are unable to occupy the rookeries with their suniors. The dmaln immediately on reaching the ^hore, are appropriated by the -id males and taken to the places respectively selected by them f ir tti,l reason, which is generally tho same for many successive years. It is asserted that the same male seal has boen known to occum on, rock fur more than twenty seasons. The young seals above one year of age, called bachelors, Uike their positions around tlif tig,^ of the rookeries or rimain in the water, and are ccmatantly trying to steal the females from their respective masters, who alu ^ each other of their families, by stealth or strength, whenever occasion olTers ; and thus an incessant quarrel is maintained at ill points, which keeps tho old males constantly on tho alert. They never leave their places, seldom sleep, nor do they eat aayihiu whatever during the entire seas(m from May to August, when they go Into tho water j but, as far as can be ascertained, take no fa,! until their final departure in November. It may be remarked, however, that they are very liit on arrival and (|uita as lean at thetiim of leaving in autumn. The young seals are supposed to feed while in tho water, but this has not been definitely proved, nor is the nature of their food well known, since an examination of their stomachs seldom reveals more than a green mucilaginuus miiitr, Following all others, the yearling seals arrive about tho middle of July, accompanied by u few of the older mates, and remain for the greater part of the time in the water. Soon after their arrival in the months of June and July the females bring fortli tlicir younr" (Ei. Doc, 41st Congress, 2nd Session, No. 36, p. M.) Kefereuce has been inatlc to tlie raids ujion tho rookeries, and to the fact that insiiilicient care has been taken of tlie breeding- grcuind. It is contended that it is tlie duty of tho Government, drawing iin enormous rental from these islands, to carefully guard and protect them, and it is undoubted tliat, with efficient protection, the increase of seal life will be more marvellous than ever. Mr. Tingle, in 18S6, in his Report to Secretary Fairchild, urges the Government to keej) a ciittet around the islands from the 1st July to the 1st November. Mr. Morgan, in 1888, in his evidence before Congress (p. 23), said there were not sullicient cutters for the protection of the islands, and Mr, Wardman, Special Agent of the Treasiirv at the islands, 1881 to 1885, said :— " I think the Goverimient ought to keep at least one revenue-steamer therein and about these two islands up until the middle ol October at least. The trouble has been in 'lie Revenue Marine Service. The appropriations were all right, and a fellow would be sent u]) to nominally protect tho Seal Islands, but ho would also bo ordered to look tor the North Pole as well as watch the Seal Islandi. He might find the North Pole, but not around tho Seal islands. Ho would be away just at the time he would be needed arouud there," (Evidence before Congressional Committee, p. 38.) The Honourable Mr. Williams said : — "The Government practice, through the Treasury Department, has been to protect these waters so far as they could with the revenue-cutters which are at their command. Still it bos frequently happened that a revenue-cutter goes upon the seal groun<l and then is ordered north for inspection, or for the relief of a whaling crew or something of that kind, and they arc gone pretty luucli the whole time of the sealing season, and there seems to bo an insufficiency in the method of protection." (Evidence before Congrrs. sional Committee, p. 106.) Mr. Taylor, Special Agent of the Treasury in 1881, said, before the same Committee (p. 58):— " The difficulty heretofore has been that our revenuo-cutten have been obliged to cover a territory of 800 miles long and 700 ur HOO miles wide, north and south, and they would get around to the Seal Islands about twice during a season. They never happened to be there when needed, and, as far as rendering any service whatever is concerned, they were practically useless so far as the Seal Islands were concerned. That has been tho experience, I believe, of all who have been there." This officer recommended steam-launches for Government Agents at the islands. (Evidence before Congressional Committee, p. 109.) Mr. Glidden, another Agent of tho Treasury from 1882 to 1885, says (Evidence, Congresaional Committee, p. 28) when he was at the islands the Government kept no vessels there. " llicy landed our officers on a little island 6 miles from St. Paul to watch In every Report I made I recommended that they should keep a revenue-cutter there. One vessel cannot protect those islands and visit the Arctic Ocean besides. Tlie cruizing-ground is far too' extensive, covering, as it does, a distance of several thousand miles, and while the cutter is abiunt in the Arctic much damage can be done by the marauding vessels to the Seal Islands." That Congress regarded it at the outset as the duty at least of the Adrainistation to simply gunrd and regulate the islands, is clear from the Act first dealing with the subject. Mr. lioutwell, the Secretary of tlie Treasury, reported in 1871' (4l.st Congrns.;, 2iui Session, Ex. Doo. No. 109) a.s follows : — " \ suggestion has been made to this Department, in various forms, that the Government should lease ;.-f^' ill nds for a long period of time to a Company or firm for an annual sum of money, upon the condition that provision .■■ioold f\ made for the subsistence and education of the natives, and that the fisheries themselves should be preserved from injury, '^bis plan is open to the veiy grave objection that it inakns a monopoly of a branch of iudustry, important not only for tho peoplr. of the islands, but to the Tieople of the United States, if the preparation and manufacture of the skins for use should be tra'jsferred from London to thij * " In the stomach of one of these animali (year before hut) fourteen small harp-ieals were found." — Michail Catrolt'i Riporl, Canatlian Fithfrin, 1872. <n9 omnlry. ^'i'*'' " nvmniHtly m r Mitriry lo tin- iilM* of tin- iKti|iIr, im,) iir*t imtiv y.nn w.ml.l pufi iK-fore sprimu fff.irln wiiuM !»') in»il<» for lU nviTtliriiw. Mrnt«-i\fr, llir iintut** ut' 0\r> i^liirU wumII br uiulir lit htiol nC the ('innp;iny, miil h* ihf e\|iii-alion nl I'm lt>Me ?robnltIy hv die i"i'"'. 'Inf 't li;>'l "•' 'i"I"' "' '» rm 'vv.tl of it'* |)ri\ili')(fii. t'lidiT iU.-mh t'irctiumtHiit'i'x llio iiovfi-iiiiu-nt of tin- Unitnil SUW «""''' "•''''""""•'"y ''*' »ii' jfi-lfil t>i urcat p\|i/ii'^i' tiiiil trnnlilr, " yor il:i"ic rniHiiiiH, hilctl} "ttitiii, liiii valid, ai* liivy iipprar to iiic, t immdhI fonciir in llir »uKK*'*(iun lliat the Ulniid^ ihoulil Im leiifiltoniiv Coiiipiiny for a pwrind nf yr«r-. ■' Inrt-'iiitirh iirt it v,\\\ ))t> iMvr-^^iiry rnr tlif (io\i'nini;'nt nf (lie t'lillr.) M itc^i In nmiittuiii io Hutl nmuixl ih" iolnriiU ii oiililary And MTfti fiurc fi>r llif pi-ntf<-tioti nf iN tiitiTolH iiitilir any plitii tint i- m liei (h-\>M'il. I atii vt npMiinn tint it ih txtiiT tint the (i >\rriiiiii<nt ^hnutil n«^iiiiiu tlir i>ntin- rnolrol nf the llllHil|f^H nl tin' itfliiodH, and rti-ltidc i vi-rvlioily but iIn : wo HerviuitH atul ui^lmiIs ; llhii. it >liould ritahlifh ■! rii;id MVAtnu of pnlii-f, rxubidiiiic fiom Ihf i>hiitd-t diiidlud ii|iii'i'< toid tin>-ariu>«, ami Miibfi'Ct vii^ttt^^ thai luiu Ii tht'rr to fiirfrituir. ■!!«-< pi tvlifn tliry am drivi-tt to !*v\\ sIm-IIi-i* or fnt- rot fMiry rupuiri). 'Hie roiiilitinuM of sui'li ucuitpaiii'y mid t'onlrol by tht* riimrriniriit "f tlic Unitrtl Stati-s hitfo tn nic t't brt thc.<*e: — ■' Ut, th" tirln^icu nf til her particB ; 'Jnd, thi- supply In the loirivi i nf .•<iich nrlit.Iei an tlirtj an* in-uuftmned to tisc ; ;iril, minptm- tAlJon to the niitivi'O for their labour, ami tir- payim-nt nf a t^uflii-iriit adilitinmil sum v.uU y<Mr to iiiablf tluoi to livo in Oir maiiiu'r lowhiith llii'V liiivc brfii actuislomcd i '1th, ati «-i|iiitable diii:<i(Mi n\' the; value nf thr Hkins o\i'r Ihf paynieiiU inntle to llu' iiiitivrn, and the CON I to tti'* (iovrrnini'tii of the Uititcil Statett of inaiiitiiiiiiut; Mich fnrct- :\s m m'ci'iiiiury for tlu- prottclimi nf lhi> buHiiu'Ks, " Till' p )i'li<») of ihr 8urplu!i i*<|ullably bulollf(in^: to t)it- nattven noKbt be set uaidf for lh<- purpose of fijucatiou nnd ruUifiouii tciirhinir, ita- div'timi of inoru Miiitablt' dwelliiif^ii than llu-y now posHcssi, uiul |{i-iii>rttlly for their phj-Kicul, iiitclU-i'tuid, and inortl iiiiprnvriiHiit. - If tlif (invcrinnrnt were to Ichc tlit- ii^luiids il wnuM not be possible to wilbdrnw futiruly the military ami naval foriTfl, or to nerl^ct a i iri'fnl supirvi^inti, ami tlit* additional evpt-n^e i:onsei|ueiil upon iituinini^ poitw.iiiioii of the liusiue^A of the i«land» in the luriiU of IliP (invcriiuu'nt would not l)i' lame. "Onlmaiity, 1 :i;;rri' in llii' opinioi) that a (invfrnuu-tit, < fpctMuUy one like that of llie Uniti'd Stuti'M, \s not ndupU'tl to the m&nai.'f<i)i'iit ol biiHiness ; but this cliMrly \a a biiHtiifi^t wliich i-nnimt !>.■ left opi>ri to ir.dividiuil i-nmpetitioit, and if it Is to be n ,n(,„0|M)ly. wliitlur prolitable or ..tlu'rwii.e, the interest of tliu (iovrrnnx-nt U xa lar^e, and tin- rxprnsca incident Io Ihr protection of these islniiilH ho i^roat, that it cannot atl'ord to iubNtitutu to any I'Xtent the monopoly uf nil iadividuul or of u Cunipuny for its own IiirfalBtipcrvision. "Should (be (iovernment ,ail in the attempt to manaL;e the busiiic^:! llirougb its own a^cntri, there nill then be opportunity to least' the lisherlcs to private partie't : but my opinirui is that a larger revenue can be obtained from them by actual manH(-ement than by a lea*'. " In further reply to the Ucidutinn, I have to^^ay that ths skin-* taken in iS'iS were removed by Messrs. Knhl, IIutchiiiHon, nnd Co., the Solicitor of tbu Treunury beiiiK of opinion that the (invernTurnt bad no lei;al authority to iletuin Ibein. Those taken in 18G'J ire uiion the iflamls, hut no decision ha* been made toucbini; the rii(bl« of the (invernment. " In concluding this Report I tlcsire to call the attention of Cuiiifress to the fact tha^ it is neci>ssary to k-gi^^late immediitely ao farfw to provide for ibe business of the pri-nent year. The natives will commence the capture of Heats about the 1st June. " If the islands are to be leased for the present year it should bo done immediately, that the lessee may make provision for the buiinei'S of the year. If the business of the present year is to be eondueteil by the Government, m I think it should be, whatever our future policy, legislation is necensary ; and I augf^est that the Kecretary of the Treasury be authorized to appoint Agents in Atn.-ka who iHaU lie niipowered to superintend the capture of the seals and the curing of the skins ; and that an appropriation shall be made of lOO.OUO dollars, out of which the natives shall be paid for the labour performed by them, and the other expenses incident to the busiuf^' aiet. "The Hecretary of the Treasury should also be authorized to t>ell the aklns ut public auction or upon iiealeJ proposals at San Fr*rci''''o or New York, as ho may deiin moit for the interest of the (iovernm'nt. " It should be observed in this connection that the tJovernment derived no benetit whatever frtun the seal fishery of tin- year 186S, i>i>d lliiit the skins taken in IHttO are. nominally t\t least, the properly of two Companies, while the (loveriunent, <lurini( the last jt'or, lias funn»h<d protection In the native^ a id the tishery, and lias no assurance at present that it will derivr any benefit whatever tlierefron). " If legialution i* long del.iyed the business u\' the yen- IHTII will hi' but a repetition of tjuil of ISGQ." / w \4ul Cmnll'i Btfort, Wliilii tlio Caimdiiiii coiitoiitioii is sii])|i(irU'il, us li;is lict'ii sui'ii, liy nuiiiy extracts IVmii tlio lifpuit.s iifdlliiiiils lil' llic, lfiiit(-'(l Stub's' (iiivcniiiii'iit, it is iiiijiiii't'iit tliiit the dcsiic nl' tlic lessees, mill iinlireetly lluit cif llie iiltieiuls, has heeii tn croiite i\ iiiniiiipi)ly In the I'ur-seul imhistry, since, in tills way the lumket ('ill' tiie sliins is hirjiely eiihaiieeil ami the vahie cil'tlie ishmds f,'i'eatly incieased. 'i'liis is, no doidit, one reason Ibr llie (hvei'jj;ent oiiinions entertained as to tlie hest Ue;,'ulations for tlie [iri'iervatioii of seal life lielween tho-ie who control the islands and ihiise who ari' eiini|ielled to hunt llu' si'iils in the oeean. In suiipiirt oi' the ulnivc assertion tlu^ followinn luilhorilies are in ]ioint : — Mr. liryant, in ISI'i'.i (Senato Kx. Doe. No. :'.:.', -list ( 'imj^ress, lind Session), stat' 1 that the larfje luaiilur taken in ISti? and in IHIlS decreased the London valiiaticn to :! and -I >lollars a skin. Mr. ^[llore, in a lieport to the Secretary of the Treasniy (II. It. Kx. J)o'. No. 8;!, |) lllU, 44th (,'oiiUi't'ss, 1st Session), says, when alliiilln;^ to the advi^ahlllty of killin,^ more stals than pre.serihed liy the Act of the 1st July, i.STO :— " It seems llwt tlie lOO.dilO fur-seals I'nnii mir own i^IilllJs. li'ijcilii r wiili till) 30,000 obliiini'd liy tlicm from thr .\.siiiti ■ isliimls, bf<)iileH tlic sciittt-'riiii; fur*seals killoil in the .South St-ji<i, an' nil the uuirket uf the world run cuuvfiiiciUly tuki>. In fai-t, it is jirettjr rviilent lliut the Vf'ry rt'strii'tion of till' iiiiiiibi'ra killi'il is tihout llie iiiust v.iluable part of the tVunuliise uf tlic \hiskt\ Coiiiiuercial Comii-iny. anil it is only iiuolher proof of the absurdity of tin' freipu'iU cliari^C!: nulde af^ainst them that they surreptitiously take from our'isbmis '.ill,OUO or ^0,000 inuri^ HeaU tliuii they arc entitled to take. •'Tlirre do;'S not exist any doiiljt, nor indeed is it denied ipy tlu* Alaska Cominrreiiil Compjiny, that the li';i<e of the '-^laiiils of St. I'aul and of ^t. Cn'ur(;i' is bii-hly lurrative. The (jreat surcc-^s of this IV.iuehise is, however, owiui;, a^ fir as I cniiUl ii.si'ertiiiii, to throe liriili-ipal ealisrs : 1st, the Ala.^ka ('oiniiiereial Company, owing to lli'j faet that they ba'/e th? sole eontrid of the thn'O Asiatie isliinil.s oil wliieli fur-seals i^re found, as well as on our own isl.nids. as .St. I'jiul and St. Geora;o, virtually manage the sale of 80 per cent, otall the fur-seals killed aiiuually in the world ; '2iuliy. the arbitrary and soinefflmt eerentrie law of tashiou has raised the priee of fur-seiils in tlie markets of the world during llie last four years fully lOi) [irr rent, in value; .'Irdly, time and experience liave given this roatrolling Company most valuable n'lvanta^es. For instauee, in the Island of St. I'aul, where a reputed number of from 3,000,0011 to 3,r)0O.OUU of seals emigregale, the eomparatively small ipuiiility only of formerly 7.'), 000 and now Oa,00 1 are killed. The Cimipauy employs experts in seleeting easily the kind that are the most valualilo in the market, and have no dittieulty in getting 90,000 out of a flock of .'I.OOO.llnO to 3,.'illO.Oo6, whieh are the si'leet of the select i and it is owing to this cause, and to the care taken in avoiding cuts in the skins, us also in properly preparing them tor the market, that the high prices are obtainetl. Indeed, the fact is that a fur-seal selling now in London for 21. 10*. or 3/. is, owing to its superior quality and excellent eondition, cbimper than thefur.si'als which live years ago fetched 30.v. sterling. The former nujile of the indiscriminate killing of fur-seals was as detrimental to the value of the skins as it was to the existence of the breed. With such a valuable franchise, secured by a contract that has still fifta'n years to run, but which could, without iioliee, be terminati'd by the Secretary of the Treasury for cause, it would indeed be a laicidai policy on the part of the Company to infringe on the stipulations of the contract." All this is explained in the evidence before the Conj^ressional Committee, pp. 77, 101, 11)5, and 121, where the Company is shown not to have taken the full quota in two yeara : — '""Not because we could not get enough seals, but because the market did not demand them. There were plenty of seals." (Evidence before Congressional Committee, p. 121.) [128] 3 M !> , IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 1.0 I.I 1.25 ■so 1^ 2.2 U IIIIII.6 ^ /2 <^ / !..«:< Sciences Corporation i\ k •^ \ •^ ;\ \ V 23 WCST MAIN STRUT WIBSTER.N.Y. MSSO (716) •73-4503 % c^ I II 450 Mr. Miilntyrt!, mice a Special Agent, lias already liecn iiuotud, ami wus al'terwiinls in ilic ■-.■i\i,i. ,, tlM) Company, reportol, in 18G9, to the Spealn .• ol'tlie IFimne of ItcjiresentutivuH, Mr. liliiiiic (II. |;. |;^_ Doc. No. .'IG, 41st ( 'onj^Te.s.s, 2n'l ScHsion), Hint, — " The niiinlMT of akinn Hint may In' scciiri'd, howevii, should nut lie taken ns the orileriim nri which tci I'lx ihi limii i,i iv yearly nieh, but rather tlie ilrmniid of the market, keeping of enurne alwnya within llie annual iirmlaeliun. It iiiipeiu - tlini nnj,, the Kusaiun nmnaifement a much larger number was aometimea killed tliiin could lie advaiilagenuKly dis|iosed iif, 'I'Iiun in Isii:!. aii,, the slaughter had been »iniluct;'d for some years without rei(ard to the market, an neeumulatinn of KUO.OOd skins wus rnunil in ilir storehouses on the islands, 700,000 of which were thrown into the sea as worthless. At several tiiius since thst dati- Hie niiiikn li,> bfcen glutted, and sales ahnttst or quite suspended. A few months pn>vioualy to the transfer of .\ldSKa to the United .Stittes m iil<kiti> wort* worth in London oidy 1 dol. 50 e. to 3 dollars each, and several tliouaand skins owned by the Unssian-.Xtnerlrnn ('(iinii^niy nen* sold to parlies in Snn Fruneisco, at the time of the tranafer, at BO (Tills to I dol, 25 e., n sum insiilfieipiit to poy the pn -i in f i,i „| seeiirinK and transporting them to that eity. iioon afterwards, however, fur-seal garments became fashionable in ICnnipe. :iiij in % expectation tliat the usual supply would be cut off by reason of the transfer of .\laska. prices advumvd to 4 to 7 ilolinrs |),t »|,in; (TOntrnry to the expectation of dealers more than 200,000 skins were taken by the varinua parties ent^nued in llie bu^iiit i... (in di,. islamla in IStiH, and tlie London pricti has declined to H to 4 dollars per skin ; and 1 am assured that if the raw skiii>. leiw hchl by dealers in Ijondon were thrown upon the market, u suliicieni sum to pay the co>t of transportation I'nim the islniiils i hi Inniii be realized, llic number nf raw skins now upon the market is not less than .1.''>n,000, and it is predicted that sevet-nl yc.irs nnw elaps4< before the demand will again raise the price abo\u the present rate, if indeed the larg3 surplus of skins docs not rnn y it iiiti,.)i lower before reaction begins." Many of i\w diiiifieis to .seal life iiavt^ l)eeii mi'iitiimecl, and il lia.s liecii shown iJiiit llir In id -liH thrives; but the wondoifnl productiveness of the seal is furlliev shown liy an alln.sion Ui » i|;in;'ii {greater than all the as.saiilts of mail in the deep sea, a dmigcr cvev e.\istiiijt, which natii!.ill\ |l■l|ll^ i;, kce)! the seals inshore, or, when outside, to sc^atter. liefeienee is made to the kilier-wliales and shark.s. (If. 1!. I",.\. Doc. No. S;!, 44th < 'nii.iiew, 1st Session, p. 177, and [ip. SH, 87 of Apjiendi.x to the same docnnieiit ; also p. 11.^9 of Kvideiuc liifiiie Congressional Committee, 18S8):— " Thai these animals are preyed upon extensively by kilh-r-whales (Ofcr^yladiatuf) in (\-4pet-ial. and b> sharks ahil pruli.iiiU iitlivr submarine fiies now unknnwn, is at oiire evident; fur were they not held in check by sonic such cause they would, as they i-.\isl lu.ilay on St. I'aul. ipiiekly multiply, by arithmetical ]irnKressioti, to so great an extent that ihe island, nay, Bebriiig's Sea itseir, eiiulil nut contain theni. The present annual killing of lOtl.OOO out of a yi'arly total of over 1,000.000 males does not in an appreeiulili' tl(i(ii,> diminish the feul life, or interfere in the slightest with its rcjcular, sure perpetuation uti the brceding.grounds every year. Wr. in.ii. therefori'. pro|ierly look upon this aggregate of four uiiil five millions of fur-seals as we sec tliein every wason on thfsr I'riliyW Islands as the maxiliiiiln limit of increase assigned to tliciu by natural laws. The great eipiilihrium which Nature hiilds in lil'e U|i(iii this earth must be sustained at St. Paul as well as elsewhere," (IClliott's Heport. pp. 02, 04.) " When before the (.'nnimittee of Ways and Means on the I7tli March, I87(>, on the investigation before alluiled to. Mr. Hllioii made a t-iniilar statement, giving in somewliat greater detail the reasons tor his iMncliisions. His evidence will be (bunil anirseil u the Uepiirtof the C'ominitlee."" (Report No. 023, II. K., Illh Congress. 1st Session.) liespecting the practice of scaling iis known in Canada, il niny be Siiid: — • Canadian sctdcis start ont upon iheir scaling voyages some linic in I lie licgiiiniiiguf tlie >ciir. Tli.- ve.ssels go (hiwii to a ]iiiint oil' San Fraiiciscci, and from thence work north. Tlit^ seals taken by tiimi "II the coast are of bnlli sc.\cs, many in jiuii, sonie young bulls; very few ohl bulls run in ibc I'lnilie Ocean. 'I'lic catcli iif caili vcs-id Mill aveiiigc between -"lOil and 7lli' si'ids a-yctir lictween llie Nl .biiinau- ami tii(^ end of Jlay. When an untiiiiiii'd crew is taken, many shots may be tired witlmul hitting the .seals at all. -iii'c the novici' cxjieets he (an liit when at fi eonsideiiible distance, llu' >cals in such ca.s(!S cscii]iing eiiliniy. lait with Indian IiuuIits and expert whites ti seal is nearly always captured wiieii hit. An cNpeil mvii shoots until idler he has arrived at do.se (inarlcrs, and genefiilly when the seal is tislcfp. In I'.ehriiig's Sea the catch is niiule up largely of yniiiig liachclors. Sealing eii]iliiins cimtcnd that no male becomes lit for the. ronkeries until (i years i if age. 'flli^ cmitention is Mipjimled by tlie aiitlioiities to whom referciici^ lias already bi>cn made. It is further eiinteiided that should a temporary diminntinn of seal life become ii]i]iar( iil iiiinii ilie islands of the I'libylnv group II would not follow thai llie herds were decreiising. I'rolessor I'lllieil. iii his l!e|)(irl of IS74 upon Alaska, .so frcipiently rcf;iivd to in this paper, argues, on |)p. J(i."i nu'l I'liii. thill ill sinli il ciisc a correspiiiiding iiiignn'iilatidii iiiiiy occur in ('ii]i|icr nr ricliiing Isl.iiiil, -'iki' '• these animals iire iinl jiarticuliirly iitliiehcd to the respective [iliices of their birlli '" : — "Tims it nj'peius to me necessary that definite knowledge concerning the Conimaiider Islands and Ihi' Knriles -Iniiilij Ijc possessed ; uitlimit it. I .'liouhl not hesitate to say that any Ueport made by a:i Agent of the I)t-|iartiiient as to a visilile diiiiinuti.-n dl* the seal lite on tii,- I'ribylovs. due in his opinion to the eOeet -if killing, as it is cntulueted, was without good foiindatinn ; tli:il llii- diniinulion would have iieeii notiii d just tlie ^anle in all likehhood hail tliore been no taking of sods at all en l)i<- isLiiitl^, atiil llint th,- missing •'enla lire more than probahlv on the Uus^iiin gronmN." ,\Vi/r' nil till' IJiiritinii Iif till- I'riitn'liihi nf llu- Fur-Sni/ ill. l/ir Xolili Purijii: r.y Mr. (ieorge Dawson, D.S., K.C.S,, K.,i;..S.C., F.K.M.S., Assisliini Director of the C.eoldgieiil Simrvn' Canaila.) TliiMiiode iif |ii'olcclioii which is apparently advocated by Ihe I'liiled Stales' ( lovcninieiil in ll:e ease iif the I'lir-scid. viz., thai of leasing lite privilege of killing tlie aniniiil on llie breiiding-giciiuiils iiiiil |irohiliitiiig its ciiptiiie elscwiicre, is a new departure in Ihe niattcr nf such iniilection. If, imlec il. ilm whole swcejiof the racilie Occiin north (if the I'',(|uator was ilnuiiiiated iind etlcctively controllci! by lln' United S,,;te.i, ximelhing might be said in favour of some such mode of pnitttctioii from ii coiiiiin rtiiil ]ioint of view, but in the actual circnmstiinces the results wmild be so entirely in favour nf llii^ rniU'ii States, iiml so completely ojiposcd to the interests and natural rights of citizens of all other coaiitries, that il is preposterous to .■•:u|)pose liuil sut'li a moile of jiroteclion of these aiiinmls can be luiiintiiiaeil. Stated brietly, the position of the United Stati's in tin; niattcr ap])i!ars to he based on the iiliii "I dlnwing, for ii money considt'ralion, tln^ slaughter of the maximum jiossible number of .seals comoiililile with the eoiitinned existence of the nniinals on the I'rihylov Islands, while, in order that this niiiiiiici ahull not be rudiieed, no atMilini.' is to be permitted elsuwliero. •-- ■' ' ]!■ Ni .l;ilili;i;\- ■I'ii'ill Siirvi'Viil' 451 Siicli ill! n^.siiinplion.i'uu.L)tt UtitLtl, ui.tliiA uum;,. ou. onu or othui' only o[ ttru }{tatHuU<:-v-> v r •■! I. TImt lJc'luiii;4'.s Sen is a /««/•<; c/aiwuiM. ■•• . ; L'. That each mid i-vory fiii-scul is tin- i)n)i)fci'ty of tin? UniUnl Stati's. Itdili claims have bueiinuulniiL uuefoiui.ui'. other, but.uuithui! lias, «o. ikt us L kuaw, [hum oUWiitlly IdHiiulHU'il. Tli(^ Hrst is simply ilisprovi'il liy tlii^ },'oo},'m|)liicnl feattires of ISehring's Sua, liy the, liu^t tiiat tluH jca ami l!(.-lii'in)>'s Stiiut uuiitriliiitu tin; opttii lii<;liway tu tliu Auitic and to part of Ihu norlliurii Hhorc of 1,'itiiiulii. )iy tint pruviouH action of tin; Uiiitud Slututi' Govurumcut wkuit tliis sua was ncaiiy sminiuidi'd !iv liiissiiiii torritory, and by the fui-t that Ikjiu 1842 to the datu of thu puii^liasitof Alaska Uuels. of (iiiikil Siiitfs' and otliw whalers wviv. uunually t'nBiij,'ed in IJelirin<^'s .Si;a. It is sfaicoly ' issililu that iuiv H'liiiiis atli'inpt will lie mado t" suppoit this cuiituiitiim. (Baiicrofrs History, vol. wNiii, Ala.skti, 11, ."iS:l il snj.) Thi' second ground of clitini is cantiidly advaucwl l>y II. \V. Elliott, who writes: — , - •! --'riu- t'm''!ipiiU of Alai*kii. (lollectivrl^r Hint indinduiUy*' nru'tlin prupvrtjr ot* tlw CicnernI GovMrniiiciit Kvery fur-sAl {iLivin; in tlj<- miters of lli'liriuK'n ti>» aniuiiil aliaur tlM i'ribjrliiT lalvidi, nii inatti-r if fininil an ili>ini( 100' iiuIfs nwii; fnini tb<m< ruokprif:*. lu-Ion^'^ tlieri>, has bet^ii begotten oiiil born tlicreuii, and U the animal tUat the uxplicic Bbiuld of thu law prutitctt*. Ntt legaX ^n|ilii^m or (|iiibbli: can obmd tlio wlH)Ie truth of my (^tatcnteitt Ttu* niatt-.T i". hovvevcr. now lliovnnghly aiiprrciati-d and undiTstniid at the Tn'aRury i>uparttnent, and ha» hean tlurinff tlit> paRt tour yrari, mm *ho #va\ pirntti.i have di-H'^vered to their chagrin aiiil di'mmfilurr," (Unit- J Stnteii' 10th Ceunua. vol. viii, Fur-Seal Islunda, p. lai.) Waiving l',)i' the moment tli(! guner.il olijciliun which may In; raiscid to tiic cnrnrcenn'nl of such a |iriiiiipli' on the hif^h seas, an eiiforceuicnl whicii tlui United States, in (he interest of (he Alaska Km r(iiii|iany. iipjjcar to have iiiKU'itakoii, tliu facts upon wliieh the iissuniptiim are lia.sod may be i[m'.stiiiiied Mr. lilliott, in fact, himself writes, on the same ]n\<iv. (leierriiiLT to (Ik; pre.seuce of a large. seiJIiij,' licet in Behring's Sea), that it eouhl nut fail "in a few short years in su liariissing and irrilating the hiveding .seals as to cause tiieir withdrawal from the Aliiska rookeries, and pmljahle rctiieat to thosti of l!ii>.si;i, a source of undoubted SIiLscovite deliglil and emolument, ami of eorrcspoiidiiisj lo.ss anil simiiic lo us." This remark implies that the seals may resort to either the I'ribylov or tlie Russian Islands, luximliui; to circumstiuuit.'s ; and who is to judge, ii: the case of a iiaiiicular animal, ill which of theue lilaces il has been born ( The old theory, that the .seals returned each year lo tht; same spot, has been ainiily disproved, l•;lli.^tt himself admits llii-^, and it is conlinued (oji. ril., ]i. Ill) by Captain Charles iliyiiiil. who resided eight yeiu's in the I'ribylov I.sliinds us Government Agent, and who, having marked tnil seals in 1870, on St. I'aiil I.sland, leeogni/.ed, the iiuxt year, four of them in dillerent rookerie»s on tliiit island, and two on St. (.ieorge Island. (Moiiogmiih on North American I'innipeiluA, AUuu, 1880, l.,40].) It is, moreover, by no means certain that the fur-.suaLs breed e.xclusivuly on (he Uu.ssian and 1 nited StiiUis' Seal Islands of Uehring's Sea, ttiongh these islands are no doulit their priiieiind and important Imniling-phices. They were formerly, according to (/a])tuiu Shannon, found in considerable numbers nil tlie coast of (California ; and (,'aptaiu Bryant was credibly informed (" Marine Mammals of Coast of Nmth-West North America," ])]). 152, 154, qiu)ted by Allen, up. ril., p. 'SS'Z) of the existence iu rucent ycais (if small breeding calouicB of these animaLj ou the Queen Charlotte Ishinds of I'riti.sh Columbia. Mr. .\llen further quotes from the tibservations of !Mr. <Iames (>. Swan, field Assistant of the ITnited Siiitc's' Commissioner of Fish uuil Fisheries : — " Mr. Swan " (I quote from Mr^ EllioU), " ha» paaMd r.nir iiiv avera)^ lifetime on the norlh-wrst itnut, and hai renilFml to iidiunil scteiiue and tu ethnolo||y-.eflirluu( wul valuable ivrKMet." His statements may therefore be received with respect. He writes. — " The fact that they (the far.f<'iil!<) do buur pupa in. the OfMin uaean, utf Fuca .Strait, is woll cstabliilied by the oridenoe of every i.iie (tf tite iiealing cuptaina, the Indians, and my own peritonal observations. Dr. I'otver aays tho facta do not admit of dupulM. , • . , It M-ems as prt'postcrous to my tnind to HUppoKu that all the fur-ticals of the North Pacific go to the I'ribylov UUndii an to suppose Ihat all tlif salmon go tn the Colundiia or Frascr River or to tin* Yukon.** Til this Professor I). S. .lordon, tho well-known natumllHl, adds : — " 1 may remark thnt I k-iw a live fiir-f>cal pup at Cape Klattery, taken from un old seal just killed, showing titat tlie tijiie of 'iriiigiiig them forth was jimt nt hand,'' On these statements Mr. AUoii himself I'omnrk.t:—!' .-.vn., . "These oliaervations, aside from thojudieiou^ suj^eation-* made iiy Mr^ Swan, are of special interest as contirniing tlios* made Miniu yetrs ago by Captain Dryiintk and ulmuly briillyi nHunled ill thui work. Tlicy aeem to show thol at least a ctirtain number of 'I'teaN repair to secluded (daeeii, (uit«d to thuir niiid;, Ub far nouth na tlie latitude of Ca|io Plmtery, to bring forth their young.** mien, <);i. n'/.. pp. 411, 772, 7iS.} Mr. Elliott, of course, stoutly denies the authenticity of all these observations, it being tiiilii so in order to maintnin his contention as to the owuei'ship of the United States' Govt'r till.' Alaska F\ir Company, as the case mny be. in the seals. necessary nmeiit, or till' Alaska Fur ( ompaiiy, as tlie case mny be, in the seals. It has further been often slattil that the killing of fur-seals in the open sea ofl' the North I'aeitie IOII.SI is a comparatively new depni+iire, while il is, as a matter of fact, morally certain that the Indians "f thi' whole length of that coa.st have pursued and killed tiioso animals from time immemorial. As the i--i1,i/. ,,1* t\n\ ul^rinu I10.J l.i.tt'(ti..^i< ..11I1P j.r l.iln I'lini'u I iititniiiii fiillt- L-iif.i,'ii mi, I •> ..>i.....>i..t ... I ti 1 till' value of the skins has, however, mily of late years become fully known iiiu ., , iiiitiiiiilly dillieult to obtain much trustworthy evidence of this without considerable research. Some laels ran, however, be aiidnred. Thus, Cii))tain Shannon described the mode of Imntiiig .seals iu canoes I'liipliiycil by the Indians of Vancouvrv Island, and refers to the captuii! of seals by the Indians (inthc J*tmits of F'uca, whciv, he adds, tlie\- iippciir — me years us early as the l»l Maivb, and mire or less ipmain till .luiy or AUgilsi. uui luey are most Iniiimis ilrrtle iicarlii all llmir lint to srai'mg ir,,rn the trcalher mill perinil Maj , During thrufi two monlAt Ih [128] rmain till July or AukuM. but tbey are moKt plentiful in April u.;'l tntittn Bit ««i i tut U*jm/Xj1>< *t\iir mtmm^^ii '' 3 M 2 il i: 452 III 1843 to 1864 only ii few dozoii Hkiiis im; known to Imvo Ijeeii taken innuially, but in 1R69 fully 5,000 were obtnineil. 5Ir. AlU'n, wiitin}^ in 1880, states that — " Daring the winter montlm conniclrrablc nunihcrs of mmIsVIdk an- taken by the natWi-t of British Oolumbi", mnie jram m mm a« 2,0(10." (Ailcn.o/j.cir.pp, 332, 371,411.) Till' jnotoi'tioii of till! fur-.xcnls fmin cxteniiiiiatioii lins from time to tinui liceii specioiisly ndvaiiccd 08 a stiflicii'nt vca.soii for o.xtr.ionliiiiiry dojiartiircs from the reajieot nsunlly paid to private jJidjuTty and to iiiteriiatioiinl riijlits; hut any piuti'i'tion based on the lea.'io of the brecdiiiy-giounds of tlics,. animal, as jdaees nf slaiij,'hter, and an attempt to preserve the seals when at larjjc and spread over the Dcraui.ta they are diiriiiu the "greater ]iait of each year, is unfair in its oiieratioii, uii.sipund in ] liiieiplc, ami inipiwti( able in enforeemciit. Ivefeniiij; to the interests of the Indians of thri north-west coa^t, it is true that a ciMtain nuiijln of Aleuts now on the I'riliylov Islands (398 in all, according to KUiott) are dejiendent (ai tiie sfulinj. business for sulisisteiiee, but lliese islands were uninhabited when iliseovoird by the Ifu.ssiaiis, whu brought these i)eople here for tjieir own eouvi'iiience. Further south along the coast the nalivi's of the Aleutian Islands, of the south-ea.st coast of Alu.ska, and of the entire coast of Jtritish Colmnliiu have l)een, and .-it ill are, accustomed annually to kill consideiublo numbers of seals. This it would lie unjusi to interfcio with, i-ven were it possible to carry nut any regulations with that effect. The furtiin development of iKeanic .sealing affords employment to, and serves as a mode of advancenieiit and civilizatimi for, tiie.so Indians, and is one of the natural industries of the coast. Xn allusidii mwl (,. made to the prescrijitive rights of the white sealers, which are well known. The unsoundness nf this principle of conservation is .shown by what has occuiTcd in tlie l^diitliom Hemisjiliere in i'cs]iect to the fur-.seals of that regitui. About the beginning of the ceiitmv vm productive sealing-grounds existed in the Falkland Islands, Kergueleu Islands, Georgian Islaml-i.tiic west poa-st of Patagonia, and many other jdaces similarly situated, ail of which were in the course of a few years almost absolutely stripjied of seals, and in many of which the animal is now piacticallv cxtiiii't. This destructicui of the southern fur-sealing trade was not caused by pronii.scuous .scaliiii; ai sea, but entirely by hunting on and around the shores, and, had these islands been prntcctod m breeding-jilaces, the fur-seals would in all jirobability be nearly as abundant in tlie south to-day !is they wi're at the date at which the tradi! commenced. The impracticability of jireventing the killing of seals im the open sea, and of ellicieiitly pafrullini; the North I'acilic for this imrpnse, is sulliciently obvious. The seals, moreover, when at sea (in iiiarkfd contrast with their boldness an<l docility in their breeding-jdaces) are extremely wary, and the iiuiiilicr which can lie obtained by legitimate hunting at sea must always be small as compi.red with the total Elliott, in tact, .'States that thi; seal, when at sea, "is the shyest and wariest yiair ingenuity can dclini'," {Ofi. dl., p li").) The position is such that at the present time the perpetuation or the extermination of tlic i'lu-soal in the North I'acilic as a couinu'i'cial factor practically depends entirely on the regulatiniM and restrictions which may be applied by the rnite(l (States to the Pribyh)V Island.s, and now that this is understood a regard for the general interest of its own citizens, as well as for those of other cnuiitrics, demands that the extermination or serious depletion of the .seals on their brec.ling-i.slands should W prevented. It is probably mit ne<'e.s.sary for this purpo.se that the killing of seals on these islamk should be entirely prohibited, liotli Elliott and Uryant show good reason f(U' believing tliiit ii lupv number (d' seals may be killed annually without reducing the average aggregate number whii li ran find suitable breeding-grounds on these islands, and after the very great reduction in numbers wiiiili occuiTcd, owing to an inclement sea.snn about 18;Ut (Elliott), or 1842 (liryant), the .seals increaswl wrv rapidly again, and in a few years being nearly as numerous as in 187i!, wlien the tnt^l number nn iht , islands was estimated at over 4,7()O,()0(l. I5y retaining an (dlicient control of the number of seals to ho killed on tlir, Piibylov Islands, and by fixing this number anew each season in aeium.ance with eircninstaiices, the United .'^talcs' Coveiniucnt will bc' in a pnsition to ciainteract the etl'ect of other cau.ses tending to diuiiiiisli tlu' number nf seals, whether idiiiiatic or resulting from tlu; killing of a larger iiumbiu' at sea. Tiieiv is n;i reason to apprehend that the number of seals which might thus be safely killed on the i.slands «(inld, under any circumstances, be ,so small as to fail to cover the cost of the administration and jantciiiiiiio' the islands. If such a policy as this, ba.sed on the common interests in the ])re.servatioii nf the .seals, weie adi>plcd, il niiglil be reasonable to agree (for the pui'iiose of safeguarding the i.slands and k polices liuipnses) that the jurisdiction of the United States in this matter sliimld be admitted tn extond to some gieati^r distance than this usual one of :i marine miles, though, as shown further en, tin' necessary distanc(^ would not be great. The sitiiatinii of the I'riliylov Islands and the habits of the .seal together cause the iiroldcni ef its preservation to be one nf extreme simjilicity if appitiached from the point of view of protection en and about tiie islands, bsit one nf very great dillicnlty if looked at frmii any other standpoint. The lonj- eoiilinued and presumably accurate observations which have been made on the habits of the seals sliov, that during the entire breeiling s(>a.son they are very closely eonlined to the iinmediatc slnacs et ilie breeding islands, and that neither in arriving nor in de])aitiiig from these i.slands ih) they forni .s(!ii»il> u' ajijiear Ingelher in such numbers as to render jtromiscuous slaughter at sea po.ssible. Tiic cdd liull* Actually remain on shore during the entire breeding sea.son, while the females, though leaving tluif young from time to lime for the water, are described as haunting the immediate vicinity of the Avm just beyond the line of surf. Even the bachelor .seals (Elliott, op. tit., pp. 4.''), ()4, it ^wisim ,■ Alliii, ep. lit., p. :i8(p), which conslilute a distinct body while a.shore and are not actually engaged in bvedini; or protcrting the young, are said to remain close to the shore. If, however, any seals are to lu Imiii'i at this time going to or returning from the .sea at .some distance from land, these belong to llif "bachelor" class, which is the very cla.ss selected for the killing by the fur ("oni])aiiy. The young 458 ((iiuilcs, ;iftev It'iiviiij,' the islmids iii tlio yi'ur nf tliuir liiitli, i!o not ri'tuni ul :ill till after leinlilng maturity in tlieir tliird yeiir. (Allen, op. rit., y. 403.) Till' evitlence olitiiineil by t'liptiiin livyiint hIiows tlmt while "small i^nmps of snmll souls jonie jiars M mu, ^| (jpiMniilly 1 mi'l - veal's nlil)" iii'o met with nt liirnu in IJehring's Sen iliiiinj; .Inly and Aui^ust, no ,,i„isiil('ml)le nnnibei'H oC sejiools ai^e to Ih- IVmnil. (Allen, np. ri/., \t. 411.) It is thus apijai-ent that the |H'rl'eet secniity ol' the seals actually en!,M;,'i'(l in lnvi'dinj' and suckliiift tlii'ir viHinj,' may lie sernred wiliiout t!.\tenilin),' the limits <>l' proteetion lievond llie usual distance el 3 miles f'''J"' the shores of the lirecdinj; islands, liul that for the purpo.se of iiicicasint; the facilities ol ,i,ii(.rvi»ion a somewhat wider limit minhl reasonahly lie accorded, ros.^ilily liy dutiuiuK an avei; iiiclnseil hv lines joininf; ]M)iiitH i! miles otV the extreme headlands and inlets of the I'rihylov tjrouji, an ample and iniolijectionalile area of jirotection niifjht he estahlished. It is allowed by all naturalists that the habits of the fur-seals of the Soul hern Homisiihere are identical with tho.se of the seal of the North Pacitic, aiul it is therefore admissible to (juote the iilHcrvutions of Dampier on .Juan Keniande/. I.sland in fiu'ther confirmation of the fact that the«u iinininls t,'o only for a very short distance from laml during' the bivedin}; season, even when in inunense multitudes on the shore. Dampier writes: — " llert> art* always thousandii, I tiiight say pnsnilily millinnH nt' Ihciii. either Hitting on t!u> hays ur ^oiii;; ami rnming in tlir ^e• round ll* i»lanil«, wliidi ii covcml »itii llinn (as tlii'y lii- at tlie top nf tlic wiiler jilaying and tuiniing tii'inn-lvcs) for a milt or Into fnm the tkore.*' (" \ New Voyatcs Rounil the World,'* 1 Ta,*) : ((iiolcd by Allen, op. cit., p, ^31.) Tlics.' riidicries have, like others in the .south, been lon<» since de|det'(l and iibamhuieil. The liicumstanee that the female fur-.seal iKicomes iire^'iiant within a few days after the birth of its yiiiiui:, and that the |)eriod of ^testation is nearly Iwtdvt^ months, with the fact that the skins aiv at nil tiiries tit for market (though tor a few weeks, extending from \\u\ middle of Au;^u.st to tlu! end of So|)tciahcr, ibiriii},' the progress of the shedding and renewal of the longer hair, they are of le.s3 value) show that there is no natural basis for a tdoso .season giMierally applicable. Thus, .should any eloso wa.s(iii be advocated, its length and the time of yeariluring which it shall occur can only be ileterinined iisii matter of convenience and be of the nature of a compromi.se between the various interests involved. Till! )H'lii^ii., habits of the .seals during fully six months of each year, and the fact that they are during tlieciitire winter sea.son widely dispersed over the I'acitic, constitute a natural iind unavoidable close scisoii. It is thus (inly ])o.ssible, from a commercial point of view, to kill the seals during the period iif their ajiproximate concentnition for migration or when in IJehring's Sea. This is the period fixed liy Narire during which seals may be taken, and any artificial clo.se sea.son can be effective only if •ipplied to the further curtailment of the time at which it is po.ssihle to carry on the fishery. It may be iLssiiint'd, therefore, a.s such a close season for seal-hunting at sea must Ikj purely arbitrary and artiticial, that any closi? season proposed by the United Stales or the lessees of the Seal Islands will be chosen entirely in the interest of sealing on shore, and so arranged as to render the lime of scaling on the open sea as short and unprofitable as iiossible. It is thus important that the sea-going sealers shoiiM at least have an etpial voice ill the matter of the time and duration of a close period if such shoiiM be contemplated. (Signed) GKOIIOE M. DAWSON .\l,uch :., 1890. No. 322. Sir J. Paunct'/ole to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received April 26.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, April 26, 1890. I HAVE received the nmendmonts proposed by the Canadian Government in my new (Irnt't Convention referred to in my despatch of the 1 1th instant. I propose to submit tiie draft Convention to tlie Conference on Tuesday, «ith the amendments, unless your Lordship instructs me otherwise. No. 323. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Sa'lisbury. — {Received April 30.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, April 30, 1890. I HAVE sent the draft Convention to Mr. Blaine, with a letter supporting our eountcr-proposal. I sent your Lordship copies by post yesterday. d 'I i 454 No. 324. , ;i ii' >:< ' . '• ■ Sir J. PaiiHcefotP to'the Marquis of -Salishury. — (RucekedMm/Gi.),' -xa My Lord, . Washhujton, April 25, ISW). IN obedience to your LorJship's instructions conveyed to me in your tolegraai of the 15th March, I have the iionour to inform you that I communicated copies of uu despatches of the 7th and 11th February, respecting the asHessnient of diinmf(e8 iW seizure in Bchring's Sea, to Mr. Tupper, in order that he might consult his coliea^ue, on the subject during his visit to Ottawa. I hnvc now tlic honour to inclose a copy of tiie letter in which he informs me ol the views of the Domirion Government as to the procedure to he followed. From this letter it appears that the Canadian Government desire tiint I shouli) endeavour to assess the amount of daniajics with Mr. Blaine, but that they would prctW a modification of the procedure suggested on the j)roposed n'ferencc to nrbilration. I have the honour to request that I may be informed whether yotir Lnrdsliiii approves of the nudification in Mr. Blaine's proposal suggested by the Canadian Govern- ment, and, if so, whether I am authorized to accept that proposal as so modified on heimlf of Her Majesty's Government. r have, &e. (Signed) JULIAN rAUNCl-yFOTE. luclosure in No. 324. Mr. Tupper to Sir J. Pauncffotc. Dear Sir Julian Pauncefote, Washinyto)!, April lf>. 18'JO. REFERJUNG to the c(^i«s of your dcspatohcs of the 7th and 11th February, addressed to Lord. Salisbury, and which you handedi to me, I liavc now to inform you that during n)y visit to Ottawa I discussetl with: my oelleagues the subject to nliicii they refer. In the despatch of the 7th Fehrnar\- you say Mr. Blaine was willing "to evaminc and assess the damages with me on the sanre principle as if the liability of his Govern- ment were admitted, then to refer the question of liability to some eminent jurisoimsiilt for decision on written statements and answers submitted by the two (iovenimciits respectively." It will bo agreeable to the Canadian Government that you shoiUd endeavour to assess the amount of damages with Mr. Blaine. Touching Mr. Blaine's proposal for ascertaining the liability, my colleagues think that it would be proferabie to the mode suggested that a statement of the case should be made, setting out all the facts connectod with the action of the Revenue cutters of Hk' United States concerning Canadian sealing-vcssels, their crews, cargoes, papers, &c., in Behring's Sea, and. the question propounded u])on such a statement should be whether the conduct of the UnitodSlatcs in the'-pvumiceHiraH-juatiflablaundei; the principles of international or naiturah law. '' . .' The question "on written statomeats aad anavcre 6ubmitt<ed by the Govcrninent-s respectively" shoidd be submittcil to two eminent Judges, one- to,.bev..say. tiie Chief Justice of the United States, the other an eminent member of the English Judiciary, to be named by the British Government. Yours, &c. (Signed) CH. H. TUPPER. No. 325. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, 'rorciyn Office, Mmi 5, \m). WITH reference to your letter of the 14th March last, I am directed by tin' Marquis of Salisbury to transmit herewith a copy of a despatch from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington,* inclosing a copy of a letter addressed to him by Mr. Tapper, explaining the views of the Dominion Government as to the procedure to be followed in • No. 324. 46S the proposed assessinciit of (Inmagcs clnimed on behalf of tlio ownera of the British vessels neiied in Hchiing's Sea. I am to request tliat, in laying this letter before Secretary Lord Knutsford, you will; move him t<» furnish Lord Salisbury with any observations he may have to oHer in regard to the modifications in Mr. Hlainc's proposal suggested by the Canadian Government. > I am, &c. (Signed) P. CUllRIE. No. 320. air ./. I'liunri'/ole to t.hf Marqulx of Stilishuri/. — {Itecfivvd Maij 8.) » My Lord, Wnshington, April 29, 1890. , WITH rct'crence to my despatch of the llth instant, 1 have the honour to inclose copy of a letter whicli L Imve this day addressed to Mr. Blaine, inclosing the draft of a Convention wliicli I luivo prepared for the settlement of the Bchring's Sea. Fisheries question, and which has the approval of the Canadian Government. > I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. . ■|i endeavour to Inclosurc 1 in No. 32Q. ■ ) .S/r J. Pauncpfotfi lo Mr. Blaine. Doftr .Mr. Blaine, Wanhimjton, April 29, 1H9U. ) AT the last sitting of the Conference on the Behring's Sea Fisheries question you; I'spressed doubts, after reading the Memorandum of the Canadian Minister of Marincj and Fislicrics, which by your courtesy has since been printed, whether any arrangement coultl 1)0 arrived at that would be satisl'actory to Canada. You observed that tiie proposal ot the I'nited States had now been two years before Her Majesty's Government, that there was nothing further to urge in support of it, and you invited nie to make a counter-proposal on your behalf. To that task I have most earnestly applied myself, and while fully sensible of its great difliculty, owing to the lontlict of opinion and of testimony which has manifested itself in tlie course of oun discussions, I do not despair of arriving at a solution which will be satisfactory to all the) (Jovernments concerned. It has been admitted from the commencement that the sole object of the negotiation is tiie preservation «'f the fur-seal species for the benefit of mankind, and that no considerations of advantage to any particular nation or of benefit loany private interest should enter into the ((uesiion. Such being the basis of negotiation, it wouhl be strange, indeed, if we should fail to devise the means of solving the diHicnlties which have unfortunately arisen, f will proceed to explain by what method this result can, in my judgment, be attained. The irreat divergence of views which exists as lo whether any restrictions on ])elagic sealing lue necessary for the preservation of the fur-sea' species, and, if so, as to the character and extent of such restrictions, remler it impossible, in my opinion, to arrive at any solution which would .satisfy public opinion either in Canada or Great liritain, or in any country which nniy be invited to accede to the proposed arrangement, without a full inquiry by a Mi.xed Commission of Experts, the result of whose labours and investigations intlie region of the seal fishery would probably dispose of all the points in di.spute. As regards the immediate necessities of the case, I am prepared to recommend to, my Government, for their approval and acceptance, certain measures of precaution which might he adopted provisionally and without prejnclicc to the ultimate decision on the points to be investigated by the Commission. 'I'hcsc measures, which I will i?xplain latet on, would cfl'ectually remove all reasonable apprehension of any depletion of the fur-seal species, at all events pending the Report of the Commission. It is important in this relation to note that while it has been contended on the partt of the United States' Government that the depletion of the fur-seal species has already commenced, and even that the extermination of the species is threatened within a mcasurnlile space of time, the latest Reports of ihe United Stales' Agent, Mr. Tingle, lue such as to dissipate all such alarms. Jlr. Tingle, in 1887, reported that the vast number of seals was on the increase, and thiit the condition of all the rookeries could not be better. > . . * 460 In his later Ucport, ilntcd the -Olst July, 1888, ho wrote ns follows : — " [ am hnpi>*-to Ite able to report that, although late landing, the breeding roukcrio are filled out to the linos of measurement heretofore made, and some of them much beyond those lines, showing conelusivcly that seal life is not being depleted, but is fully up to the estimate given in my Keport of 1887." Mr. Klliot, who is frequently appealed to as a great autimrity on tin- sulijoct atKrms that sucii is the natural increase of the fur-seal species that those animals, were they not jjreyed upon by killer-whales {Orca ijlmliator), sharks, and other sulimarino foe? would multiply to surh an extent tliat " Behring's Sea itself could not contain tlicm." The Honourable .Mr. Tupper has shown in his IMemorandum that the (lostniction »{ seals caused by pelagic sealing is insignificant in comparison witii that caused liy their natural enemies ; and he gives figures exhibiting the marvellous increase of seals in spite of the depredations compl.iincd of. Again, the destructive nature of tlie modes (if killing seals by s])cars and fire-arms has apparently been greatly exaggerated, ns niavbe seen from the affidavits of practical seal-hunters which I annex to this letter,* ton;etlior with a confirmatory extract from a paper upon the " Fur Seal Fisheries of the Pacific Coast and Alaska," prepared and publislied in San Francisco, and designed for the information of Eastern United States' Senators and Congressmen. The Canadian Government estimate the percentage of seals so wounded or killed and not recovered at *'» per cent. In view of the facts above stated, it is improbable that pending the result of the inquiry which I have suggested ony appreciable diminution of the fur-seal species should take place, even if the existing conditions of pelagic sealing were to remain uiiclmnged, But in order to quiet all apprehension on that score I would propose the foilowin" provisional Regulations : — • 1. 'J'hat pelagic sealing should be prohibited in the IJehring's Sea, the Sea of Ochotsk, and the adjoining waters, during the months of Afay and June, and the montiis of October, November, and December, which may he termed the "migration periods" of the fur-seal. 2. That all sealing-vessels should be prohibited from approaching the brcudiii" islands within a radius of 10 miles. Tliese Regulations would put a stop to the two practices complained of as tcndin<r to exterminate the species ; (1) the slaughter t)f female seals with young during migration periods, " especially in the narrow passes of the Aleutian Islands ; (2) the destruction of female seals by marauders surreptitiously landing on the breeding islands under cover of the dense fogs which almost continuously prevail in that locality dining the summer. Mr. Taylor, another Agent of the United States' Government, asserts that the female seiils (called '• cows") go out from tiie breeding islands every day for food. The following is an extract !r.,in his evidence. "The cows go 10 and ir» miles, and even further — I do not know the average of it — and they are going and coming all the morning and evening. The sea is black with them round about the islands. If there is a little log, and they get out half-a-mile from shore, we cannot see a vessel 100 yards even. The vessels themselves lay aroiuiil the islands there, where they pick up a good many seal, and there is where the killins; ol cows occurs when they go ashore." Whethe'- the foinalc seals go any distance from the islands in quest of food, and, if 80, to what distance, are ()uestions in dispute. But, pending their solution, the IJegtilation which I propose against the approach of sealing-vessels within 10 miles of tiie islands for the |)revention of surreptiti(ms landing practically meets Mr. Taylor's complaint, he it well founded or not, to the fullest extent; for, owing to the prevalence of fog.s, (he risk of capture within a radius of 10 miles will keep vessels off at a much greater (listancp. 'i'his Regulation, if accepted by Her iMajesty's Government, would certainljr manifest a friendly desire on their part to co-operate with your Government and that of Russia in the protection of their rookeries, and in the prevention of any violation of the Laws applicable thereto. I have the honour to inclose the draft of a Preliminary Convention which I have prepared, providing for the appointment of a Mixed Commission, who are to report on certain specified questions within two years. The draft embodies the temporary Regulations above described, together with other clauses which appear to me necessary to give proper effect to them. Although I believe that it would be suilicient during the " migration periods " to * See Appendix 1 in Colooial Office lettw of Nivembet SO, 1889, pp. 335-3S7. 457 prevent all scaling within a spccillcil distance from the pnssoH of the Aleutian [shnulrt, ; ..avo, out of (lelercnco to your views and to the wiHlies of the Ilussinn Minister, adopted the fishery line described in Article V, au'l wliich was au{?f?estcd by you at the outset of our ncfcotiatiou. Tin" draft, of course, contemplates the conclusion of a further Convention, after full examination of the IJeport of the Mixed ('onimission. It also makes provision for the ultimntc nettlcment by arbitration of any dillorences which tiie l{ei)ort of the ('ommission iiiav still fail to adjust, whereby the important element of iinality is seciu'od; and in order to Ki^'c to the proposed arran;?cnient the widest international basii, ilio draft provides lliat the other I'owers shall lie invited to accede to it. The above proposals are, of course, submitted nd /v/V) wu/Mm, and it only now remains lor me to commend them to your favourable consideration and to that of the Russian Minister. They have been framed by me in a spirit of ju-stice and conciliation, and with the most enrnest desire to terminate the controversy in a manner honouiable to all parties, and worthy of the three great nations concerned. I liave, &c. (Si-ned) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTK. ^ii the lireediii!: luclosure '2 in No. J^2G. Tiii; Nonxii Ameuican Seai, Fisiieky Convention. Draft Convenlion bptween Great Britain, Russia, and the United States of America, in relation In the Fur'Seitl Fisheri/ in the lichrimfs Sea, the Sea of Ocholsk, and the iitljoining Waters, THE Governments of I^ussia and of the United States having represented to the Preamble. Goverinnent of Great Britain the urgency of regulating, by means of an International A'Tcenient, the fur-seal fishery iri Behring's Sea, the Sea of Oehotsk, and the adjoining Bftters, for the preservation of the fur-seal species in the North Pacific Ocean, and diti'crences of opinion having arisen as to the necessity for the proposed Agreement, in consequence whereof the three Governments have resolved to institute a full inquiry into the subject, and pending the result of such inquiry, to adopt temporary measures for the restriction of the killing of seals during the breeding season without prejudice to the ultimate decision of the questions in dillerence in relation to the said fishery ; The said three Governments have appointed as their respective Plenipotentiaries, to frit : |}- i Who, after having exchanged their full powers, lyhich were found to be in good and due form, have agreed upon the following Articles : — ARTICLE I. The High Contracting Parties agree to appoint a Mixed Commission oi Experts, Mixed Com- who shall inquire fully into the subject, and report to the High Contracting Parties within miaiion of two years from the date of this Convention the result of their investigations, together ^'''*-'^'** with their opinions and recommendations on the following questions : — 1. Whether Regulations properly enforced upon the breeding islands (Robin Island in the Sea of Oehotsk, and the Commander Islands and the Pribylotf Islands in the Uelniug's Sea) and in the territorial waters surrounding those islands are sufficient for the preservation of the fur-seal species. 2. If not, how far from the islands is it necessary that such Regulations should be enforced in order to preserve the species ? 3. In either of the above cases, what should such Regulations provide P 4. If a close season is required on the breeding islands and territorial waters, what months should it embrace P 5. If a close season is necessary outside of the breeding islands as well, what extent I of vatars and what period or periods ebould it embrace P [128] 3 iV , «;s^'i On rteeipt of Report of Coinnii'iiion, Jucition of DUroi- tionni RrKU- Ulioni to b« foithvith dctorminod. ArbitntioD. ARTICLE II. On receipt of the Report of the Commission, and of any separate Reports which may bo made by individual CommisHioncni, the High Contracting Parlies will proceed fortliwitli to determine what International Regulations, if any, are necessary for the purpose aforesaid, and any Regulations so agreed upon shall be embodied in a further Convention, to which the accession of the other Powers shall be invited. ARTICLE III. In case the High Contracting Parties should he unable to agree upon the Rcjjula. tions to bo adopted, the qiiestiotis in difference shall be referred to the arbitrntion of an imptirtial Government, who shall duly consider the Reports hereinbefore montioncd and whose award sluill be final, and shall determine the conditions of the further Convention. ARTICLE IV. ProTitional Pending the Report of the Commission, and for six months after the date of mich UcculatioDi, Report, the High Contracting Parwies agroe to adopt and put in force ns a tcmiiorary mensurc, and witliout ])rejudice to the ultimate decision of any of the questions in ditf'erence in relation to the said fishery, the Regulations contained in the next fullowinv Articles Nos. V to X inclusive. ARTICLE V. Semi fiiber* line. A line of demarcation, to he called the " seal fishery line," shall be drawn as follows : — From Point Anival at the southern extremity of the Island of Saghalien in tiie Sea of Ooliotsk, to the point of intersection of the 50th parallel of north latitude with the IGOih meridian of Kmgitudc east from Greenwich, thence eastward along the said fioth parallel to its point of intersection with the 160th meridian of longitude wcstfrun Greenwich. ARTICLE VI. CloM time. The subjects and citizens of the High Contracting Parties shall be prohibited from engaging in tiic fur-seal fishery and the taking of seals by land or sea north of the seal fishery line from the Ist May to the 30th June, and also from the 1st October to the 30th December. ARTICLE VII. During the intervening period, in order more eirectively to present the surreptitious landing of muruiiders on the said breeding islands, vessels engaged in the i'ur-soal fishery, and belonging to tlic sulyects and citizens of the Hi>>h Contracting Parties, shall be prohibited from approaching the said islands within a radius of 10 miles. ARTICLE VIII. The High Contracting Parties may, pending the Report of the Commission, and on its recommendation or otherwise, make such further temporary Regulations as may be deemed by them expedient for better carrying out tiie provisions of this Convention and the purposes thereof. ARTICLE IX. Every vessel which shall be found engaged in the fur-seal fishery contrary to the prohibitions provided for in Articles VI and VII, or in violation of any Regulation I made under Article VIII, shall, together with her apparel, equipment, and contents, be liable to forfeiture and confiscation, and the master and crew of such vessel, and ever; | person belonging thereto, shall be liable to fine and imprisonment. ARTICLE X. Every such offending vessel or person may be seized and detained by the naval or other duly commissioned officers of any ot the High Contracting Parties, but they shill be handed over as soon as practicable to the authorities of the nation to which tbej respectively belong, who shall ahme havo jurisdiction to try the offence and impose tiie penalties for the same. The witnesses and proofs necessary to cstablisii the offence shiU also be sent with them, and the Court adjudicating upon the case may order such portion I of the tines imposed, or of the proceeds of the condemned vessel, to be applied in I payment of the expenses occiisiuned thereby. Preven- tion of marauders. Further provisional itegulationi, PenaUy for violntinn of prorisioiiil Regulaliuna. Seizure for breavli of provi!>ion»l Iteirul'itiuna. Trial of offences. 469 ARTICLE XI. This Conrcntion shall be ratified, and the ratifications shall be exclianged at miinotion. in gix months from the date thereof, or sooner if poHHible. It shall lake effect on such CommcnM- jjT as shall be agreed upon by the High Contracting Parties, and shall remain in force •"•"" ■"•' notil the expiration of six months after the date of tlie Report of the Commission of ConMniioo. Imports to be appointed under Article I ; but its duration may be extended by consent. ARTICLE XII. The High Contracting Parties agree to invite the accession of the other Powers to Acmmiod (be present Conventio . °f^»»hM IncloHurc 3 in No. .326 Extract from a Pamphlet entitled " Fur-iteiil PishtrieH of the Pacific Cotml and Alanka." Published by C. D. Ladd. IT is claimed that many seals arc shot that sink and are lost. Undoubtedly there »re some lost in this «ny, but the percentage is light, probably one in thirty or forty, not more than this. It is also claimed that ten are shot and woundetl that die to one that is wvurcd. This is also an error. Many senls are shot at tliat are not hit at all, but when iHoal is woimded, so tiiat in the end it will die, it is most always secured by the hunter, who may have to shoot at it several times in order to get it, as the seal in the water exposes only its head, and when fri<>htcned exposes only a smnll portion of that, so that, tos:ether with the constant diving of the seal, the motion of the boat, &c., makes it very bsrd to hit. This is where it is claimed that ten arc shot and wounded to one that is secured, but it is nearer the (ruth that one is lost to ten that arc secured, for the reason thnt when a seal is wounded it cannot remain under water any length of time, and therefore the hunter can easily follow it up and secure it. No. 327. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received May 8.) Sir, Downing Street, May 8, 1890. IN reply to your letter of the 5th instant, I am directed by Lord Knulsford to acquaint you. for the information of th? Marquis of Salisbury, thnt he does not sec any reason for taking exception to the proposal of the Dominion Government that the question of the liability of the United States' Government to pay compensation in respect of the seizures in Behring's Sea should be submitted to two eminent Judges instead of the single jurisconsult proposed by Mr. Blaine, if provision is made for securing a final decision in the event of a difference of opini<m between the Judges chosen, by a reference to an umpire to be selected by the two Judges before the nrbitra- . tion is commenced. With regard to the question to be submitted to the arbitrators, Lord Kiiutsford would suggest that Her Majesty's Government should deprecate the employment of so vague and eltistic a term as "natural law." I am to point out, also, that Mr. Blaine, in the conversation with Sir J. Paunccfote reported in the latter's despatch of the 7th February last, stated that no established principles of international law would be in dispute, and he would probably object, therefore, to a specific reference to international latr. It appears to Lord Knutsford also to deserve consideration whether Mr. Tupper's pr;)po8cd form of question does not narrow rother than extend the range of nets for which the United States should be held responsible, as it is not impossible that, by ingenious argument, the arbitrators might be persuaded that proceedings otherwise not justifiable were excusable under some alleged doctrine of international law. Lord Knutsford is disposed, therefore, to prefer the broader terms of reference mggcsted by Mr. Blaine in the Memorandum which he communicated to Sir J. Pauncefote on the 11th February last, namely, whether, under the circumstances existing at the time, the United Slates' Government was justified in arresting and detaining the vessels that entered the Behring's Sea for the purpose of killing fur-seals in the open sea. This would not prevent Her Majesty's Government from invoking the principles of inter- national law against the United States' action, as indeed it is proposed to do in the reply [1281 3 N 2 '#' . ( l« m Mi'l ' H ^i! jHi In ' m ■ i ^H» '' ^^Hl H ' ^HF ^PVI m ' m H i 1 ■ 11 H HMi il i fH tflO to Ito s'vfn to Mr. Hlaino's nolo of the '22nd January, sotting forlli tlio Rrouiuls iipoo which he rests the Justilieation of the seizurcH. I imi fo obHorve, further, that Mr. Tupjier docB not say in his letter wlietlior the Dominion (iovernmeiit are willina; that the (lueHtion of the amount of llic «lamny;iN, in the event of ^fr. Miaine anil Sir .1. I'aunccfotu failing: to ajjree, shoiihl he referred to the orhitrators to he scluetcd to determino the (piestion of the liahility of tlie llniio,! States. liord Knutsford would sujjf^est, for fiOrd Salisbury'!! considerution. that Sir ,|, Pauncefote should Ik- desired to eommunieate with Mr. Tupper as to the points rnin-J in this letter hvforc Muhmitling llio uiulter to Ihe I'nitcd States' Uorernment. I am, &c. (Signed) .JOHN BRA^ISTON, No. ai'8. The Marquix of SuHshunj to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Forplijn Office, Ma'i «, 1s()(). \V'll.\'r rieepliou lias Mr. Mlainc -^iveu to the proposals embodied in tlie draft Convention for refjulatiujj the Behring's Sea fur-seal liahcrics which wa.s sent liome in jour despali;!) of the L'Dth ultimo ? Her >[njest\"s (iovernment would bo <^\a.A to bo kept informed by tclegraiih nf any advance in the nej;otialions. No. asa. '/(• J. Pdiinrrfoto to the Marquin of Salisbury - 'r.-r ived May 8.) (Tele!?raphic.') Washington, May 8, 1890. VOilR I.irdsliip's telegram ot to-day's date received. I will telegraph without fail as soon as £ receive any communication from Mr. niaine as to his views on the draft Convention. Although A» friendly as ever in manner, he has hitherto maintained absolute silence on the subject. Would your Lordship authorize me to inform him that you approve the draft, and hope tl'.at it will bo accepted by the United States' Government ? The desired information may thus be elicited. No. 330. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, May 9, 1890. I HAVE received your telegram of to-day, and, in reply, I have to inform you that you are authorized, if you think it advisable, to inform Mr. Blaine that Her Majesty's (iovernment approve the terms of the draft Convention submitted to him by you for the regulation of the Behring's Sea fur-seal fisheries. No. 381. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote, — {Substance telegraphed.) Sir, ' , ■ '" Foreign Office, Mau 9, ISW. I LOST no time in communicating to the Secretary of State for the Colonies copies of your despatch of the 25th ultimo, and its inclosure, relative to the assessment of compensation for the seizures by United States* vessels of British sealers in Behring's Sea ; and I now transmit, for your information and guidance, a copy of a letter containing Lord Knutsford's views on the matter.* •No. 337. 461 As it is very «IcHiriii)Io tlint tli t noKntiiitionH now pontlinfif sliduld lio Itroiin^ht to an j.(,rlv ft <"'">'''"*'•"" iw IMMsilde, I tele ;rn|iluMl the HuhHtniu-c of the ('oh)nial Odico h'ttor to you tliii* (lay, desiring you to consult iMr. TupiM-r on its (-ontcnts hi-toro iiii](roacliing the rnitcil StiitcH* flovornnient in regard to tlieni. I am, 8tc. (Signed) HATJanURY. No. iV.V2. The Mnr(jm» of Sniishiiry In Sir J. Paunrcfole- Sir, Forn^n Ojh'i'r, M(ni 10, 1H<M>. I HAVE received your despatch of (lie 20th ultimo, covering copy of a note ill wiiich you suhmitted to Mr. Hiaine tlie draft Convention, wiiicli lias been approved hy the (Jovoniincnt of Canada, for the Hetllementof the Meliring's Sea Fisheries niH'stion. as well as a copy of the draft Convention itself. 'I'lie terms of your note are approved hy Her Majesty's Government. I am, &c. (Signed) SAMSMUHY. No. 833. Sir J. Piiinin-f'olf lo till' Marqiiin of Sdlishiirtj. — {Received Minj ' 1.) (IVicgranhie.) tVusliinqlon, Mmj 11, IHOO. WITH rcr'orenee to mv telegram of the 8th instant, Mr. lilaine has informed me that lie will send me a comnnmicatioii before the end of the week, in whicli be will cxplnin why the UnVed ^States' Government are unable to accept my draft Convention in It-i present shape. He told me, however, at the same time, that he thought a iiasis of arrangement wvs oflered by my proposal which he was in hopes would lead lo a settle- ment of the question. No. a34. Sir J. Pauucefote to the Miirqiiin of Salinburtf. — {Received Maij 1 1.) (Tclegmphic.) Waghinnlon, May 11, ISOO. AS to compensation for damages referred to in your Lordship's telegram of the 9tli instant, I have prepared, after discussion with Mr. Tuppor, a draft Arbitration Agree- ment on the basis of your Lordship's instructions. Mr. Tupper will to-morrow take a copy of it to Ottawa for the approval of the Canadian Government, and should his further services be required here, will return immediately. As soon as I receive the reply of the Canadian Government, I will forward copy to your Lordship. Proposal for arbitrators and umpire will be agreed t(^ by Mr. Blaine. No. 335. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received May 14.) (Telegraphic.) '-■■■•■ ■ - Washington, May 14, 1890, MB. TUPPER did not leave for Ottawa as stated in my telegram of the 1 1th instant. Draft Agreement was sent there by post instead of being taken by him. «<Mt^.k!* i.'*j^tt**.J «tiJ^.«i 'lAXklxIl^ -..tA. I>U«JI •l^^^tt.it^t 4B2 ' m No. 336. The Marquiit of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefole. Sir, Foreign Office, May 22, 1890. I RECEIVED in due course your despatch of the 23rd January," inclosing copy of Mr. Blaine's note of the 22nd of that month, in answer to the protest nmde on hehalf of Her Majesty's Government on the 12th October last against the seizure of Canadian vessels by the United States' Revenue-cutter "Rush " in BehringVs Sea. The importance of the subject necessitated a reference to the Government of Canada, and some time elapsed before their reply reached Her Majesty's Government. The negotiations which have taken place between Mr. Blaine and yourself afford strong reason to hope (hat the difficulties attending this question arc in a fair way towards an adjustment wliich will he satisfactory to both Governments. I think it right, however, to place on record, as brieHy as possible, the views of Her Majesty's Government on the principal arguments brought forward on behalf of the United States. Mr. Blaine's note defends the acts complained of by Her Majesty's Government on the following grounds : — 1. That " the Canadian vessels arrested and detained in the Behring's Sea were engaged in a pursuit that is in itself contra bonos mores — a pursuit which of necessity involves a serious and permanent injury to the rights of the Government and people of the United States." :.'. That the fisheries had been in the undisturbed possession, and under the exclusive control, of Russia from their discovery until the cession of Alaska to the United States in 18G7, and that from this date onwards until 1>86 they had also remained in the unilis. turbed possession of the United States' Government. 3. That it is a fact now held beyond denial or doubt that the taking of seals in the open sea rajndly leads to the extinction of the species, and that therefore nations not possessing the territory upon which seals can increase their numbers by natural gn)wth should refrain from the slaughter of them in the open sea. Mr. Blaine further argues that the law of the sea and the liberty which it confers do not justify acts which are immoral in themselves, and which inevitably tend to results against the interests and against the welfare of mankind ; and he proceeds to justify the forcible resistance of the United States' Government by the necessity of defending not only their own traditional and long>cstablished rights, but also the rights of good morals and of good government the world over. He declares that while the United Siates will not withhold from any nation the privileges which they demanded for themselves when Alaska was part of the Russian Empire, they are not disposed to exercise in the possessions acquired from Russia any less power or authority than they were willing to concede to the Imperial Government of Russia when its sovereignty extended over them. He claims from friendly nations a recognition of the same rights and privileges on the lands and in the waters of Alaska which the same friendly nations always conceded to the Empire of Russia. With regard to the first of these arguments, namely, that tl>e seizure of the Canadian vessels in tiie Behring's Sea was justified by the fact that they were " engaged in a pursuit that is in itself contra bonos mores — a pursuit which of necessity involves a serious and permanent injury to the rights of the Government and people of the United StatC'i," it is obvious that two questions are involved : first, whether the pursuit and killing of fur- aeals in certain parts of the open sea is, from the point of view of international nioralitv, an offence contra bonos mores; and secondly, whether, if such be the case, this fact justifies the seizure on the high .seas and subsequent confiscation in time of peace of the private vessels of a friendly nation. It is an axiom of international maritime law that such action is only admissible in the case of piracy or in pursuance of special iniernaiional agreement. This principle has been universally admitted by jurists, and was very distinctly laid down by Pre<ident Tyler in his Special Message to Congress, dated the 27th Fcbrunry, 1843, when, after acknowledging the right to detain and search a vessel on suspicion of piracy, he goes on to say: " With this single exception, no nation has, in time of peace, any authority to detain the ships of another upon the high sens, on any pretext whatever, outside the territorial jurisdiction." l>Jow, the pursuit of seals in the open sea, under whatever circumstances, has never hitherto been considered as piracy by any civilized Stata. Nor, even if the United States had gone so far as to make the killing oi fur-seals piracy by their Municipal • No. 878. vernment on 463 , l^n. would this have justified them in punishing offences against such Law committed by any persons other than their own citizens outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States. In the case of the Slave Trade, a practice which the civilized world has agreed to look upon with abhorrence, the right of arresting the vessels of another country is exercised only by special international agreement, and no one Government has been allowed that general control of morals in this respect which Mr. Blaine claims on behalf of the United States in regard of seal-hunting. Hut Her Majesty's Government must question whether this pursuit can of itself be regarded as contra bonos mores, imlcss and until, for special reasons, it has been a<rieed by international arrangement to forbid it. Fur-seals are indisputably animals feriB mlura, and these have universally been regarded by jurists as res nuUius until they are caught ; no person, therefore, can have property in them until he has actually reduced them into possession by capture. It requires something more than a mere declaration that the Government or citizens of the United States, or even other countries interested in the seal trade, are losers by a certain course of proceeding, to render that course an immoral one. Her Majesty's Government would deeply regret that the pursuit of fur-seals on the high sens by British vessels should involve even the slightest injury to tiie people of the United States. If" the case be proved, they will be ready to consider what measures can be properly taken for the remedy of such injury, but they would be unable on that ground to depart from a principle on which free conmierce on the high seas depends. The second argument advanced by Mr. HIainc is that the "fur-seal fisheries of Behrin!,f's Sea had been exclusively controlled by the Government of Russia, without interference and without question, from their original discovery until the cession of Alaska to the United States in ISO?," and that "from 18G7 to 1S8G the possession, in which Russia had been undisturbed, was enjoyed by the United States' Government also without interruption or intrusion from any source." I will deal with these two periods separately. First, as to the alleged exclusive monopoly of Russia. instance of the Russian American Fur Company, claimed After Russia, at the ISUl the i)ursuits of commerce, whaling, and fishing from Behring's Straits to the 61st degree of north latitude, and not only prohibited all foreign vessels from lar.ding on the coasts and islands of the above v.Hers, but also prevented them from approaching within 100 miles thereof, Mr. Quincy Adams wrote as follows to the United States' Minister in Russia : — "'I'he United States can admit no part of these claims; their right of navigation and fishing is perfect, and 1ms been in constant exercise from the earliest times throughout the whole extent of the Southern Ocean, subject only to the ordinary e-xceptions and exclusions of the territorial jurisdictions." That the right of fishing thus asserted included the right of killing fur-bearing animals is shown by the case of the United States' brig "Loriot." That vessel proceeded to the waters over which Russia claimed exclusive jurisdiction for the purpose of hunting the sea-otter, the killing of which is now prohibited by the United States' Statutes applicable to the fur-seal, and was forced to abandon her voyage and leave the waters in question by an armed vessel of the Russian navy. Mr. Forsyth, writing on the case to the American Minister at St. Pctcrsburgh on the 4th May, 1837, said : — "It is a violation of the rights of the citizens of the United States, immemorially exercised and secured to them as well by the law of nations as by the stipulations of the 1st Article of the Convention of 1824. to fish in those seas, and to resort to the coast for the pmsecution of their lawful commerce upon points not already occupied." From the speech of Mr. Sumner when introducing the question of the purchase of Alaska to Congress, it is equally clear that the United States' Government did not regard themselves as purchasing a monopoly. Having dealt with fur-bearing animals, he went on to treat of fisheries, and, after alluding to the presence of dili'erenl species of whales in the vicinity of the Aleutians, said: "5o sea is now mure clausum ; all of these may be pursued by a ship under any flag, except directly on the coast or within its territorial limit." 1 now come to the statement that from 18G7 to 18SG the possession was enjoyed by the United States with no interruption and no intrusitm froiri any sou.ce. Her Majesty's Government cannot but think that Mr. Blaine has been misinformed as to the history of the operations in Behring's Sea during that period. The iubtanccs recorded in Inclosure 1 in this despatcii are sufficient to prove, from i I ^;f.^ 11 464 oflicial United States' sources, that from 1807 to 1886 Britisli vckscIh were ciina^cd ^t intervals in the fur-seal fisheries, with the cofjnizance of the United States' Govorninent. I will here, by way of example, quote but one. In 1872 Collector Phelps reported the flttinjv-out of expeditions in Austnilia ar.r] Victoria for the purpose of takinj» seals in IJchrinp's Sea, while passing to aiul tVoiii their rookeries on St. Paul and St. (leoroe Islands, and recommended Hint .i stenni. cutter should bo sent fo the reijion of Onnimak Pass and the Islands of St. I'aiil and St. Gcorffc. Mr. Secretary Houlwell informed him, in reply, that, ho did not consider 'A. exucdient to send a cutter to interfere with the operations of forei2:ners, and stated, " In iidilition, I do not sec that the United States would have the jurisdiction or power to diivi' off parties goinjjj up there for that purpose, unless they made such attempt within a inarino league oi the shore." Before leaving this part of Mr. Blaine's argument, I would allude to his romark, that "vessels from other nations passing from time to time through Behring's Sen to tlie Arctic Ocean in pursuit of whales have always abstained from taking part in the cniiliirc of seals," which he holds to be proof of the recognition of rights held and exercised first by Russia and then by the United States. Even it' the facta arc as <^t,atod, it is not rcniarkable that vessels ijushing on for the short season in which whales can he captured in the Arctic Ocean, and being lilted specially for the whale fisheries, neglected to carry boats and hrmlers for fur-seals, or to engage in an entirely diflerent pursuit. The whalers, moreover, pass through Behring's Sea to the fishing-grounds in tlie Arctic Ocean in April an<l May as soon as the ice lircaks up, while the great bulk of the seals do not reach the Pribyloif Islands till .Tunc, leaving again by the time the closini;. up of the ice compels the whalers to return. The statement that it is " a fact now held beyond denial or doubt that the takin; of seals in the open sea rapidly leads to their extinction " would admit of reply, mid abundant evidence could be adduced on the other side. But as it is proposed tlint tliis part of the <iuestion should be examined by a Committee to be appointed by the two Governments, it is not iicccssary that 1 should deal with it here. Her Majesty's Government do not deny that if all scaling were stopped in Ik-lirin^'s Sea except on the islands in possession of tlie lessees of the United States, the seal may increase and multiply at an even more extraordinary rate than at present, and the seal fishery on the island? may become a monopoly of increasing value ; but they cannot admit that this is a sufficient ground to justify the United States in forcibly depriving other nations of any share in this industry in waters which, by the recognized law of nations, are now free to all the world. It is from no disrespect that T refrain from replying specifically to the subsidiarj questions and arguments put forward by Mr. Blaine. Till the views of the two Govern- mcnts as to the obligations attaching, on grounds either of morality or necessity, to the United States' Government in this matter, have been brought into closer harmony, such a course would appear needlessly to extend a controversy which Her Majesty's Government are anxious to keep within reasonable limits. The negotiations now being carried on at Washington prove the readiness of Her Majesty's Government to consider whether any special international agreement is necessary for the protection of the fur-sealing industry. In its absence Ihcj are unable to admit that the case put forward on behalf of the United States affords any suffieiont justification for the forcible action already taken by them against peaceable subjects of Her Majesty engaged in lawful operations on the high seas. " The President," says Mr. Blaine, " is persuaded that all friendly nations will concede to tiie United States the same rights and privileges on the 'ands and in the waters of Alaska which the same friendly nations always conceded to the Empire of Kussia." Her Majesty's Government have no difficulty in making such n concession. In strict accord with the views which, previous to the present controversy, were consistently ntid successfully maintained by the United States, they have, whenever occasion arose, opposed ail claims to fcxclusive privileges in the non-territorial waters of Behring's Sea. The rights they have demanded have been those of free navigotion and fishini^ in waters which, previous to their own acquisition of Alaska, the United States declared to be free and open to all foreign vessels. That is the extent of their present contention, and they trust that, on consideration of the arguments now presented to them, the United tltatcs will recognize its justice and moderation. '. ' ^ * ' „'-''• '-■ 'iiihij, ,■ . *^i ♦: 465 . I have to request that you will read this despatch to Mr. Blaine, anil leave a copy of it with him Hhould he desire it. I ;i.ra, &C. (8ii,'ned) SALISBURY. Inclosure in No. 83B. Memorandum. IN 1R70, ('ollcctor Phelps reported, "The, barque 'Cyaue' has arrived at this port (San i'miifisco) from Alaska, having on board forty-seven seal-skins." (See Ex. Doc. Nn. 8!?, lull Cony:ress, 1st Session.) In IH72, he reported expeditions littiui? out iu Australia and Victoria lor the imrposc ol' lakinijf seals iu Bchrin!?'s Sea, and was informed that it was not expedient to mterrercM'ith tlusm. Ill 1S74, Acting; Seeretaiy Sawyer, writinij to Mr. Elliott, Special Aijent, said: — " It having been oflieially ."("ported U> this Department by the Collector of Customs at I'livt Townseiid, from Xeea-ah Bay, that British vessels from Victoria cross over into American waters and eii<>;ag(' in takinji; t'lu'-seals (wliicli, he I'cprcsents, are iiiimiiilly becoming more numerous on our immcdiatf! coast) to the great injury of our scalers, both white and Iiulian, you will give such ])roper attention to the examination of the subject as its importance may seem to yim, after careful inquiry, to demand, and with a view to a l(ej)ort to the Department of all Facits ascertained." (Ditto, .May Ith, No. 117, p. Hi.) In lS7u, ^fr. Mclntyre, Treasury Agent, described how " belon; jiroceeding to liaisli measures " he bad warned the Captain of the " (Jygnet," who was shooting seals ill Zapadnee Bay, and stated that the Captain appeared astonished that Iu; was Ineaking the law. (Ditto, .March 15tb, 1H75, No. 130, p. 121..) Ill 1SH((, the fur-seal trade of the British Columbia coast was of great impoitauce. Seven vessels w(mc then eunagcid in the t'shery, of which the greater number were, in ls8(i and 1SS7, seizi-d by the United Stati;.;' Government in Behi'iiiLf's Sea. Ill iy8l, Daniel and .Vlexander McLean, both British subjects, took the American scliodiier "Sail Diego" to Behring's Sea, and were so successful tliiil they returned tlu'ic in 1HS5, from Victoria, with the "Mary Ellen" and the " L'avouriL*;." No. :537. .Sir J. Paimccrote to the Marquis of SuUnburii. — {lifccifcd Miiji 2 <•) (Tplegraphic.) Wiishinytoit, Maij 22, lh()(). A STATEMENT appeals in the iic v,,papets to-day thai after a Cabinet Council, lield on 'I'uesday. it has been decided to reject the British eounter-iiiopusiii, and instruc- timis have been issued to the officer coiiimanilin^ the Uniied States' Keveiiue criiizer •Bear,' now lyinij- at Seattle, similar to tliose of la-t year, with one exception, viz., that, instead of capturing, she is to dismantle all vessels found sealing in Behring's Sea, and to seize their log-l)ooks and skins as evidence in ease of judicial proceedings being Iftkuii. I went at once t<i Mr. Blaine, who did not deny these statements. I remonstrated against the publication of such news before he had returned any rei'ly to the proposals of Her .Majesty's (iovernnu'nt, and against the issue of such instructions while negotiations aie iieiiding. In reply, he said that the press could nut be controlled ; that his answer wap ileliijcd in order to return a joint reply with Kussia ; that our draft Convention was quite inadequate to the necessities of the case. He inveighed against the words of Vrticle V[, which purports to prescribe regulations on land, and urged that, -^s there would be no seals without the seal islands, the possession of those islands gave the United States special rights on the open sea, in order to enable them to jirotect the species. The United Slates' Government would never admit that, as regards the seal tislicry, the nghts of Great Britain in Behring's Sea vere equal to their own. Nothing «hort of the total exclusion of scaling-vessels during the suimner months, in which we jiroposed to leave the lisheries open, would satisfy them. I strongly insisted that the solo ground of discussion was the preservation of the I.128J 3 iffc. 4fi6 maIs, rcmimling him of Iun oMuranco ni our liiHt iiilorviow that, (he ilriin oflonwl n \,n,^„ oriio^rotintion, llt> i'«>|ilitMl tliiit on that lUTiiHinn ho hiid in \m niiiul Iho iincNlioii of iirhilriljin,, )„,( ho (lid nul (hinl\ wo woiiiil cvor iiK'rot' iih Io IIio I'orin nf iiucHliims In !>(> HtiliinilliMl |„ Ariiitriitioii. I will not I'OMso io proNH Mr. Illtiiiio limt our |tro|ioMiilH nmv loci'ivo ii rnniml nidy No. :»:is. Hivhvi'l from llir " iMoniimi I'oxt " of Mini '.';», |H!)(). TiiK ItKinuNd'N H|.;a I''isiii;uik.s. f KoiitcrVs Tt'lcji'rani. | \fir Yorl,-, Mini 21. 'IMil''- I'liilcil Sdilis" Kovoniio ciidcr "llcai" lias Ucon niiliMcd to crnizi- in H,,. Boliriiig's Sea I'or IIk pvoliM-lioti ol' llu' seal lislii'iics. with itislniclioiix to .ri/.r umi tlismanlio all vi'-sols IoiiikI violalin^ llic Slahilc. in nnlcr (o (lo|iri\o llicni ol' lln' hh'ihh of its luillior \iolatioii. Tlio vrs^ol is also onlorcd to sci/c I lie lo;;^ anil skins mi iMianl vessels I'onnil illojially lisliinfj. ami to pri-siTVc tlioin as (>vi(lt'ii(,'o a^ninst. Ilio oll'i'iiiliui' pcrsuns. No. ;i:M). The Miifiiuis of Sallslmrii to Sir ./, I'liiiiiri'fhtv, (Tolosrrapliio.) hoiriijn O/licr, Miii/ -I'A, jsilO. THIS morninjt's now8|mi>orH contain a |iMr«sjra)ili wliidi staics, in Hnhslaiici', llmi tho I'nitod Statos' ( iovornniont liavo inslrni'ti>d sonu- of (heir ships of war lo proi'ccd in Bohrinir's Soa. with orders lo taKo hmcIi slt<ps as may ho nocosHary to provcnl llio tncrohnnl-vossols of nthor nations from pnrsninn' llioir calliii:; as fnr-soalors in noti- territorial wntors. Tho oommunioations mado to yon liy .Mr. Socrolary lUaim'. as rocordcd in your toleuram of tho find instant, stivo a non«'rnl oonlirnialiim of tho stalomonls of Ibc prrss. I hdvo to insiruot yon to inform llio Sccrclary of Stalo llial a fo-mal |iriiii".t a}i;ninsl any snoh intortoroiu't- with Hrilidi vossols is now lioini;' proparod. and liial iki timo will ho lost in forwardina; it to Inm. No. :no. Sir ,1. i'auntrfoir to tlir MoKjiiis of Solislmrii. (lirrrirvd Miii/ '2'.\.) (T leirniphio.'i Wiishimitoii, Mini 'l'\, |s!)0, WITH rot'ori'Moo to yonr Lordsliip's tolof;rani ol to-day's diito. 1 havo juhhossoil a note to Mr. Blaino, as instructed hy your '.ordship. No. «11. The Miiriiiiis of Sullshurii to iSir ./. I'uimctfolr, Sir, l''orri,j„ Of/in; May -li, IS1)0. YOU will roooivo hy this mail my dospuloh of tho 22nd inslaiil, roplyiiL' to tho armunouts urij;od hy Mr. HIaiuo in liis nolo of tho 22iid .January last in defence of tho soi/,un> of Omadian vossols hy I'nitod States' Hovoiuio cruizors in Bohriug's Soa. Those arijumonts Moro not such as llor Majosiy's (iovoi'iunonl could admit lolic \'alid according to tho estahlishod priiKMi)los of intornalioual law, or suIVumouI to jiistifv the act4S couiplaiuod of. Tho reply has hooii for some time in draft ; hut llor Majostv's Government wore unwillinu: to introduoo any nnnoeossary elenniut of eontrovorsy into tbe uegotiatious iu which jnu are eu^'agod for tho frieuilly settlomeut of tho who!.' 4fl7 qticitliiin. I l"»li IlK'n-rorc, Uioniclii Uifii ii rcH'iiii dolay in Uio jtroHontntioii of flir Ji,,i)ii(cli wonM iiol Iw ilixiiilviiiilfii^fdiis. Till' inli'llii,'<'Mi<'('unliiiiii'(l in vmir l('l»>j;:n»ms nl' llin 22ii(l iiiHtmil. hh t.o tlw (liHpfitrli ,if riiilitl Stiili's' n'lii/.cis III lli'lii'ini^'s Sin, fiiul tin- iiiNli'iirlioriH willi wliicli fliov nrr liriiviilrii, I'i'iiili'i' il rirrcsNMi'v lliiil iJii- (■iiiniiiiinii'iilioii sIidmIiI iiu liitii{(-r lie (litJiiyi'M. f liMvi' iii'nii'iiiM!,''l_v In r('(|in'Ml Hint villi will (it iiiirf |>lnci' m ropy ol' if in Mr. KliiirK'.'H IiihkIn. I slijill roiMiMil In yon, MS sunn IIS its Irnns liiivc Immmi iippi'DVi'il l)y Ww, QiK-oti and ||ii< C'lliinrI, M rui'iMiil rnilcsl, In lie ili-livrrnl In Mr. Ulnini', nt^iiinst (iny miic!i jiilcrlVii'iH'i' «illi lliilisli vrssi'U niiUiijc llii- Irrrilnriiil wdli'rM nl' llic llnitfd Hffitfs, n« ;i|i|ii'Jirs In I"' ••niil('ni|iliil('(l in llii' instnictinnM jiisl isHiicd. I need not siiy thai It. H'liiiiil I'"' 'I ••ini'<'' nl' Ninccrc Hiitisrni'*inn tn Her .Miijcsty'H (InviTiiincnt il'n cnnsidcriitinri of ilii' ;ii!,'iinii'iits iidviincrd in my dcN|mtr|i, mid nl" liinsc with wiiicli yon will Im aldn III sii|i|'l''iii<'iil Hm'Im, slinnid imlncr t lie ( Jnvcrnmi'nt nl' Ilic United Stnfcs sn to ''.ult tlir iicliiMi ol' llicir crni/.t'i's jm In r«'inn\r llic ocniHioii I'or micli it I'rntfHt. I mn, iV,<'. (Hi«iicd) HAMHBIIHY. No. 31.2. ilcil ill your niMils (if till' 7V;ff Miiiijuis iif Siilinlnini In Sir J, Pnanvvl'nlr, Sir, l-'nintjii Olfirn, Mitij 2{>, IHftO. I I! I'.Ci'll \ I'll) nil llic 2.'tril iiisjjinl, :iiii| ;il niicr- siiliniillcd In lliir Q.uc.cii iin<T llic ('(iliiiH't, \oi(r ti'li'Ljniins < llic iri'Viniis ii!iv, rcpnriiiii' tlK-. instruct loMH ihsiim I to till' United Sillies' lleAcmic erniy,ei-s in I'diiinu's Sen Inr llic ji(i|)rn!ieliiii!.f tisliery SC'IMIII. ,\( r(liii(jc In iiecniiiits niveii ill the press, tlic iicciir.'iey nl' wiiieli is not denied bv Ml. Itliiiiie, flicsc iiisl riietiniis ;irc siniiliir tn llinsc iii'der wliieli (!,-inadi;in vchscIh «r (iXC iTIII/i'l's I'c seized Inst sniiimer nnlsiiic I lie tcrritnriiil u;ilcis nl'tlic l/'niled Sl;it«!.s, witli lliiit i'|ili(iii, lliiil. iiist.ejKJ nl' eiipliiriiiy' \es.se|s rnnnd scdiny; in itclninn'K Scfl, tli« iiie III liisiniuil ic siieli ves.sels, uiid sei/c tlieir |nij--liiiolxS Hitd .sJcillH flH I'Viili'iii'c m ejisc III |ii( liciiil in ici 'I'd mi's Tjiis iiiniiilieiiliMn, it is nniieeessiirv to sliy. in n WJiy reiiinvcs I lie ohj(;(:t.lorm of' ili'i' M.'ijesly's < Jnveriiineiil In siieli inlerrereiiee with Urilisli \essels on tlu^ iiifj;h si'.'is IIS enntiiiry In inlern.'il inniil liiw iiiid llie prael ice nl' civiii/ed niilions. Tliey deeply rcL^rcl lliis ilceisioii III' llic Ijiiiled states' (lovcriKnent, as liki-ly, if inpliealions, and to I'mHt rate llic ed'orts |1(T:. IIIIU sleil III, ti irndiK ■ llie inosi scrmiis en lieiiii,' iiiadc In arri\c at an ,e.;rccniciil I'nr tlic proper prntcdinn of the seal lislierics, and the sell lenient nl' I he (|iicsl inns eoniieel' d I hciewilh. Her .Majesty's ( InverniiuMit have, no allcrnative, under the cinMiinstaiKtes, hut t.o jirolcsl rni'iiially and snlciniily Ui^i'iiiist, any iiilerrerenee on the|)art. of lliiif.isd SlatoM* aitsidc the territorial jiirisdidion of tli«! <ioveriiment. th<^ rcsponsihility nii/.cis with iSrilisli vessels iiaviLcat i:iiii I'll Slides, and to leave tii the iJiiiti-d Stat ennscipienecs il thill jirntcsl is disrc'''(irdeil. I aeenrdiiiLcly inclose herewith the, driifl: of a note which yon will address to .Mr. Itlaine il' yon should nnrorliinately liiid Unit t.licrc is no intention of" so inodifyinp 1)1' i'estri«!tiiih' the iietion of the United States' eriiizers as to render this ste|» iimieeessaiy. [ am, &c. (Signnd) SALISBURY. IiKslosuro in No. !142. Draft of NoIp to he ndclTesned to Mr. Jilninc 'I'lIK lJndersiu;ned, Her IJiitamiic Majesty's Knvoy Ivxtraordiniiry and Minister I'lciiipiitentiary, i*i:e., has the honour, hy instructions of liis (iovcrninent, to make tr> .Mr. lilaiiie, Secretary of State, &{•., the I'ollowini,' eonuniinieatioii : llor Mritannie Maji^sty's (Tovemment have learned with i,'real eonc!«rn, fi'<»m iiotici's wlii<di liavi! Jijipeared in the pn^ss, and the {general aiieiiraey of wlii(di lias bi.'en cimtiniied hy Mr. IJlaine's statementH to the Uii(lersif,'ned, that the Goveniiiient ol' the [i2Sj 3 2 ff P IS 4(i8 Unitod StjitcM liiivr IssiumI iiislnictioim (o tlicir lU'Vciiue cnilzci's alxiiii to In. (liNputclied fi) lJ»'liriii|,''s Sni, under wliicli tlii! vessels of Ih'itisit subjects Mill .'i^'ain jj,, oxposed, in the proseiuition of their hij^ilinjjite industry on tlio high seus, to nnliiwful intoritTcnee jit the hands oi" American oilieers. Her liritannie Majesty's (iovernnunt are anxious to co-o]ierate to the lu]|,.^; extent of tluMr power with tiu; (Jovcrnme \t of the I'nitcd States in sneli nie(i>.iiix's ay may be found to be expe(h'ent for the prot ction of the seal ilsheries. They jur nt the present moment enijaged in examinini;, in concert with the (lovernment of the I'nitcd States, the best met hod of arriviui; at iiu af^reenu'iit u|H>n this juiiiit. Jliit th(_\ cjiinKit admit the riy;ht of the I'nited States (»f their own sole motion to restrict for this |mii|i{,h' the freedom of navi;j;ation of Hohrinj;'s Sea, which the United States have fluniM'lviv in former y<'iirs eonvincin,u:lv and successfully vindicated, nor to enloicc iJH.ir municipal h'gislation a-^ainst British vessels on the hiurh seas beyond the liinils df their territorial jurisdiction. I fir Hritannic Majesty's tlovernmenl arc therefore! iiniiblc to pass oxer wiliidnt notice the public announcement of an intention on the jjart of the (lovcrnnieiit of tli,, United Slates to renew the acts of interl'crcnco with Hritish vessels n.ivi|,Miini; outside the territorial watci-s of the United States, of which ti;ey have pnvidiislv lind to c<implain. The Undersii^ned is in conse(|uence instructed lormally to jjrotesi against siicb interfercnce, and to declare that Her Britannic Majesty's (ioverinnent nuist hold ||||. Government of the United Slates responsible for the c(inse(|uences that may ensue from acts which are contrary to the established principles of inrernational law. The Undur.sigucd has the honour to renew to jVlr. Blaine the assuraucej. ol lijs highest consideration. No. 31.3. Sir J. Pniincpfofp to the Mnnniis of Snlinhiir;/. — (Received May 31.) (Telegraphic.) Wns/iintjton, Maij 30, IS'iii, I RECEIVED Inst night from the Secretary of State n long note, copy of which I have sent by bag to-day, on the question of the negotiations for a cIom' season in the Beliring's Sea, The note commences by a i)rotest against the course alleged to be j)ursu(Hl by Her Mn,jesty'8 Government in "authorizing, encoimiging, and protecting" British vessels, who, it maintains, are interfering with the rights of the United States and those of the whole civilized world by taking seals in that sea. The history of the negotiations for a close .season from their connneneenient is reviewed in the note, which then goes on to inveigh strongly against the cliangi' ot position taken by Her Majesty's Government in tiic negotiations, which change, the Secretary of State maintains, has been brouglit about b;- the " intcrposuion of Ciinnila." Mr. Blaine then points out that the arrangements which were proposed in 1.SS8 relative to a close season, and those which were proposed in the draft Convention, ninst lie considered to i)e '• in signiticanl. contrast." Moreover, the latter arc, in the opinion of the United States' Government, (luite inadecpiate to protect the rights of the I'nited States in the liehring'.s Sea. They are equally insufficient for the ])reservntion ot seal life. The United States and Russia have consequently no other course but to reject our pr«>posals. The negotiations will, however, he continued by the United States' Govern- ment in the hoi)e that a satisfa(!tory agreement may be arrived at, although it is to(. hite, the note says, for the application of any result, which may he reached, to this sortson. Mr. Blaine maintains that the responsibility of the delays which have occurred cannot he laid to the charge of his (iovernmcnt. The note contains at the conclusion a proposal on the part of the United States' Government that with the view of avoiding any interriq)tion of the negotiations i)y imj •'untoward events," all Britisii vessels shall be prevented by Her Majesty's Government from enteriu"- tiic Behring's Sea. . • • ^ No. :!l|..'- ;, • ■ . . „ Tim Mttriptiii of Siilishurii to Sir ,/. PaunrfJ'olr. * ,, . (Telfiri'iipl""*'-) Fbiriyn Offiri; May 31, 1800. IX reply t(» joiiv trlcLrrain of ilic -'jOtli instmit, J Iinvi- to state tliut it. is iuifiossible, on gi'omuls hotli of law and of policy, for ll<'f .Majesty's (iiivitrmaeiit to accept Jlr. Ulaiiie's siifrfrestioii tliat British M-aiiii^-sliipb siiould he foiliidden to enter the B(;iirinf,''s Sea. No. 345. .Sir J. Pnunre/ntv to lite Marijuls of S'llishtiri/. — {Received June 3.) Mr L(»nl, IVfishiui/lon, Ma;/ 23, 1800. WITH referctiei! to my teloirrain of yesterday's date, I iiave tlie lioiiour to inc'Inse iierewitli (extracts from the " .New Yorl< Herald" and tIk! '• New York Kvenins^ Post" relativf! to t'le instruetioiis u;iveii to tlie llevemie cutter "Hear," and to tlie report tliat the Cabinet liad decided to reject tlie I5elirin'/s Sea proposal. Your Lordship will observe that in the account of the alleged interview with the convs|i(indent of the "Eveniri; I'ost," the Si'cretary of the Treasury is repf.rted to haveclenied ever Inviiij; seen the British pn>|);)^;ii, wlncli throws some douht upon the statement in the '* Herald," that the (Jahiiiet had refused to accept the proposal. I have, (fcc. (Si-iied) .n.'LIAN PAUNCErOTE. Inclosure 1 in No. 3 IS. Extract from the " New York Eveuiny Post" of May 22, 1890. The liKnuiNfi's Ska Qukstxon. What Secretary Wintloiu .iiiyn of ii (.'itrri'iil Riporl. [Special Despatch to the " Evenins^ Post."] Waxhiiirjton, May 22, 1890. SKCKETAllY WINDO.M was aski'd this uKnninn v. hat truth there was in the report telegraphed from here last iii;;ht, that hi- had taken a decisive stand in the Cabinet meeting yesterday atiainst the aeee))tancc of the British Behrini,''.s Sea |ii'oposal. " I have not read the despatch.'' h<; answered. " I conseijuently cannot plead to the indictment." "Did you authorize the statement, then, that you did not op])Ose the acceptance uf the proposal ':'" •'What is the naturt! of tlu! proposal said to he "r" he asked, in reply. "That is not !i;iven." "No British i)roposal," he then said, "has been submitted to me. I am here simply to enforce the law, and i am tryinu,' to do so. But, naturally, I do not care to discuss the matter till 1 Jiavc had a chanc(! to set; of what I am accused." The instructions given to the Commander of the llevenue cutter " Bear " respecting the capture of scaling-vcssels in Alaskan v.aters are identical with those of lastyeai', except mat captured vessels are to he dismantled, so as to prevent any repe- tition of the offence during the season. The Commander is to warn all ])crsons against enteriTig Behring's Sea for the purpose of violating the laws of tin.' United States therein, and pnrticularly the law whicii provides that no p(>rson shall kill any fur seal " within the limits of Alaska territory or the waters thereof." AVhat those limits are has not been defined. The British Columbiau sealers hold that they are the waters within 3 miles of any laud oi" Alaska territory. Do we hold the contrary ? Not so far as any M 470 iiiitlicnHc (lixMitiKMifnry fvidcMX-o lins bccii Miibniitft'd. \ot so fur ns cillicr fdiivTcss rir (lie I'i'i'sidcnl Ims ilrrliircd. W'l" liiivc imt ;;i)iii' to tin- Icirj;!!! ol' l.avintc ildwii din' ni],, I'mi' (lclii'iii'4^ Scii mid ;i dilVcrcnl one t'ur llic (iiili' ni' S(. liinvrciu'c II would scpiti ♦ lici'cHtn", lli.'il. (lie (iiiMTimuMil Iims piil into llic discrctiuit of Ilic (NiiiuiimikIi r ni' ;, l!t'V<'Hii(' ciil.fcr ;« ([lU'sliim ul" cvlrcnK' yr.'ivilN wliiidi it Iims moI vcnlMi'fd lo decide f,if Ksidr, iiriil that upon Ids decision nmy rest iv^ucs of viisl iinporlaiiei'. Oj" cuiiisi', m, discussion id llic lltdiriiin''s Sea (pieslion of ;inv value will lie po^vlldi- milil tlic iii..f||. lintlons lictweiMi Secretary Ulaiiie and Hir .lidian l'aiineeri)te are made iinlilie. Tiidosin'o 2 in No. iM't, ETtniel fnnii i/i- " AVm YnrI,- llvnild" nl Mnii l'2. IM<,»(). (Jhkai' Ivxc'ITKMKnt i\ Dvnada. ( l''roiii onr Regular Correspondent. ] " Heralfl'' Hiiri'iiii, runifi' of Fiflfriilh iitid (i Sirerts, A, M'., Woshliiiilon, Mail 21, IHiM). I liKAItN tliat at tlie Caliinet iiii'ctiiii; _v(>sleiday it was decided t<i reject \\m Urilisli proposition snlimitled tliree \M'eks atjo for a sellleineiil, of the lieliiiiii,''s Sea quest ion. SiHM'ctar\ W'iiidoMi, as I am inroniieil. was decidedly oppos(<d to llic acceptiniir df tlie proposal — tirst, liccaiisc its provisions were deemed liy liiiii (>iitirely iiiai!e{pi;it(' in secure the professed olijccl of preserving: seal life in Meliriic^'s Sea, and, si'coinl^ because it \irliially iuaiored llie eslaldislied position of the I'niled Stales in llmt sea arisiiiu; out of ils ownersiup of tlie partially siirroiinilinn' shores and of a part of ||i{' islands within the sea; the possession of a nnixcrsally reeo^aii/i'd hoiindary-liMe whiili included in the cession to the I'nited States the v<'ry part ci'the sea wherein alnnc tjiji; country has sounlit to eN<'rcise a territorial Jurisdiction; the inheritance from l!M'<sia of a (Mntinnoiis (daini of jurisdiction never dirc(!tly (|iiestioned nor siiceessrnllv assailed, aii'' 'lie uiidonhled riiiut thai the irnited Slates has to e\ereise a reasonalilc police Jurisdiction to protect i;s own jiroiHa'ty and interests in Mciirinn's Sea. ami S(>eiirc to itscdf the natural use and profit tlua-cof. Secn>tary iilainc did not advocate an aceeplance (d' tlu; proposal, iiud thoii;;iil it jirohahle that further iieu,'otiations would .altate the Canadian eonteiiiions and iin|ii'mi' the position of the riiiled Slates, The British proposal, lieiiin' withiul snppoil rnmi either i,f the two !>eparlni(>nts immeiliateiy concerned with it, necessarily met, with wjection. a like fate with that whi(di overto(d\ tlii> pri'ceiliiii^ American pro[iosal in the C(Uineil of the (ioveruor-ticiKM'al of Canada. I uiKha'slaiid that in neilher ease was an acceptance of the proposal antici|)atn(l hv the party siilmiittiiiL;' it, Inil that th(> only result e\pertcd fi'oni the o.\<diaiifri' of proposals Avas the hrinij^inu: of (he parties a little nearer toijjcther by tlio climiiKitioii of some of the points if (liiVca'cnce. To some extent, aeecu'diu!^ to my information, this expectation has been renlizcil, so that tluMic^otiations are really ill a better state, notwithstanding tlio reflect ion of the eountcr-projinsals than at tb(> bcs^inning. Thf A'cr/ Step. I am advised that the next step in the ne2;otiations will be the discussion and s«>ttlemeiil of the details connected with th(> creation of a .loint, Comiuissioii of experts to jirepare and submit to the tM'o Governments a full and particular project as the l)asis of a Treaty by which the whole 'luestion can be permanently settled. It is possible that ( he ( loyernment of Russia may he dir(>ctly rcpresent(>d in this Comiiiissinii of experts, but that is a matter ■which has not yet received any consideration, anil is altoirethcr lik(dy to be ijoNcnied by the wish<>s (d' that (iovernuient at the jn'opor time. In any and all cv(>iits, there is a eonlideiit (>x]iectatioii that a Treaty can be frnnied ill tinu> for submission to the Senate immediattdy upon the opening of the second Session of the pn^sent Congress. 471 F4iif'ornini/ a Clnmire. Tlic imiif iin))(pr(;iiit (|iirsli()ii I'ur llic Ciiliiiicf ycHtcnIny was tlmt ol' flic ml iiilfrim iKilii'V t" '»' |iMrsiir(l III l!(liiiiM.;"s S( n \\i(|| iniiiii'ditid- rclrrciicc to tlic si'iiliiii? Mcasdii, ivliirii Hill li«! ill lull licfidwiiv li\ Ilic i nd ■ I this inonlli. 'Ihc 'IVcMsmy virw w(in Hiiif, iiiiiNiiiiK'li MS llic Kiilisli CDvi'i'iiiiit'iil liiirl :i(liiiitti'<| a cliisc smsiin In In- iicc(<ssni'y !•• tlif |iics('iv;ili<Hi III' Ilic simIs .-iikI till' iiisl iiilcn nf III' llic IJiiili'il Sljilfs, mill Iwid oIlVriMl iih jMirt III i'*" |>i''i|"i'^ii! i' mdiiis mkhimI llic si-mI islands In |)ritlrcl tlu' tViualc seals IVom ultjicks^liilc olilaiiiiiiu riiiid in llic wjifns adjaci'iil to tlir llnokcry Isliiiiijs, it wmiid In- ailinii^sildi' and |iri>|ii'i' In cidoi'i c liy vtaniiii'^, and liy rrslriiiiit nl'liT winning Uml nrovi'il iiifHi'idiial in any rasi-. siirli u (diisiiri' diirinir tlif pirsent si-asiiii, ndyini? upon llic ;{tii)d si'iisc and dis|i()>.il ion 111' tin- llritisli (iiivrriMiirnt In ac(|iiirHrr in ui(!aNiii'cs mo I'litiirh ir!)sonalili' Mild inrn ly |iiovisiiinMl. Tills vii'W |ircvailcd, il liriii.'r ri |»rMcticMl and siili,|aiil ial acccplMiico ol' tin; moi/«« niT/if/' voliinlarily Icndrrcd liy llir Mritisli (iovi'iniiirnl in r(ini|Muiy wifli its rejected r nr(i|i<isMl. 'I'lie CoiiiiiiMiiders ol' llic cniizin^; vessels will lie eiii|)liatically enjdiiicd to ivfriiiii. so I'ar as |i(is-.ilile witliin tlic lines of Uieii- inslriiclions, from any conducl, tiiwiiiil tlic liiilisli si'.ilcis wlidiii tlicy iiicci witli IIimI can lie niade Hie occ.-i.sion ol' ju») (.i)iii|iliiiiil or nscntiiicnl. These insli'nctioiis will lie eoiiiiiiiinicalcd to the hritish (iovei iiiiicnt in order tJiat till' ('Mnadian ant liorilies may lake any action they may deem advisalikr toward the conunoii ond ol' inaintaiiiinff |iear'e and nmity from now till tliordosc of tlio season. Ordcru In llii' " Jli'iir" In prorml Id Hchruiifn Sen mid sflzi- all Vvanels enijaiji'd in (Jiilfiirfiil AvlH. WiiMiigtoii, May 21, IHWII. Seeretaiy Wiiidom to-day siL,Mied the Sailiiii,' Orders of the liovoniu-euttcf "Bi'pr," now at Seattle. \\'Mshiii:,';oii, directiicj; that she sail immediately to Oimnlaska and tlii'ii hi criii/.c dilinciitiy in Hchrinir's Sea for the |iur|iosc of warniiif^ all persons iii.'iiiii'-t ciitcriiiLr such xv.itcrs ^uy the purpose of violating; section l'.)."i(! of the IJevisnd Statutes, and ■irri'sliicj- all iicrsonn and sci/.inu' all vc-scls found to he or to lia\e iKicii i'lii'!ii;c(l in MhV violMtion ol 11, c laws of the 1 iiitcd States therein. Seclioii I'.l.'ili, I'eviscd Sialntes, rct'crrcd to ahove, jii'oviih's that '• no ])erson shall kill liny otter, mink, mart' . s.iiile, or fur seal, or other fiir-hearinj^ animal within the limits of .\laska tcrriloi\ or in thc! waters lln-reof, and every person fjnilty tlinrrof slinll, for each nllciiec, he lined not less than 200 dollars, nor more than l,<)fM) doUarB, or iiiiprisoned not more th.aii six months, or lioth, and all vessels, their tackle, apparel, fiii'iiiture, and earuo I'onnd eiiiinu'cd in violation of this section shall he forfeited, h\\\ tlic Secretary of t he Treasury shall have power to antliorizc the killina; of any such nttcr, mink, marten, sahle, or other fnr-licarin^ animal except fur .seals, under such Ruifiiintions ;is he may pn-scrilie, and it shall hv. the duty of the Secretary to prevent thr kiilinu; ot any fur seal, and to provide for the execution of the provisions of this swtidii until it is otherwise provided liy law, nor shall he ^ranl any special privilt-ge? under this section." The ("ommandcr of the " Hear" is also furnished Avith (copies of tin; President's last Proclamation on this sulijcet and the Act of the 2nd March, 1SH9, regarding the si'al and salmon lisheries of Alaska. DisiiiuiilliiKj the Law Br/'aliCrx. The instructions, while not dilfcring materially from those of last year, are tnucit more spec! lie in charact(>r. I/I^'orts will he made to avoid a repetition of last year's experience with foreign vessels seiz.vl for violations of law. in two or three eases the vessels were pl;\eed in <'liarge of a p.'i/c crew consisting of one man, and, as a result, never reached the [lort where he was ord.rod to take them. AVhile it will Ik; equally impossilile now to increase the size of the ]iriy.e crews, an elVort Avill he made to accomplish the saint; result in another Avay. According to the present instructions, it is iiiidei'stood that all vessels found Aiolaiing tii<> law will Ik disnianilcd and deprived of all means of further violations. Their logs and all skins are also to ho seized and preserved as evidence i\gainsl them. With the exception of certain details as to the I'ufoicement of the law there is, however, no change in the general policy of the admiiiLstratiou on this question. 1 I I id 472 ' ' No. iVUl ■ sir ./. Piiiinrffolf In >ho .Uiiri/Hi's of Stilinhiirii. — (Reveirrd Jitnr 3.) My Lord, Wnshimjlnn, Miiy 2:t, Is'Hi, LMM KDI A'l'KLY upon riailiiiu' in tin- ni wspiipcrs of yesterday tin' aniioimci'. tncnt (wliicli I at oiut ti'lcyraplu'd to umr l.ordsliip) that tlic riiit.cd Mlati-s' Ciihinrt had ilt'citUMl to reject (lie cmmler-proiio'.al ol" llrr Alajcsty's (iovei-nment for tlir scttk inent of tlie Helirinij's Sea (|iie-<(lon. and lliat tln-y had issued orders to their Iti'Vciiur' crui/ers to prevent all vessels from ent;ay:ini; in the sealinir-industry iu those walHrs, I ealled on the Secretary of Slate and iniiuired whether the anin)unceuu'nt was cornTt, Mr. Mlaine did not deny its accuracy, and dufendeil the action of the Treasury in rc^jU'd to their insirnelions to tlie I'exenne crui/ers, \vhi(di he said were i'sncil pursuant to an Act of t'oni;ress. 1 ohjccted thai no Act of ('undress ••luthorizcd inlerfiU'cuec with foreiiin vcsscUdu the hii^h seas. It w:is ii niisconslructioii of the Act so to apply its j)rovisioiis. I i-ouionst rated aijainsl the |iuliiication in the press of the decision of his (lovernmi'iit ou the proj)()sals of ||(>r Majesty's (lovernnient hefore any reply had been reliu'iu'd td those proposals, and I complained of the issue of Ihe orders reported fo luivi' lii'cn ijiven to the l{e\<'mn' erui/.ers while the ueLtoli.-ilions were still peinl'nu;, conlriirv tn the assurance u:iven by him iu his note to me of the 2llh March last. Mi'. Itljiji,,. replied to the eHecl that it was not possible to ijuard aLjainst the ])uhlication in tjie press of news of such public interest ; that his answer to the Ib'itish j)rop(isals. wlijcli lie had promised to send to nie Last week, had been deliiyed, as he now proposed lliat it slioiilil he in the form of a joint reply fr>>ni his (ioveriuuent and ihal of Itussja: and that, as rcii'ards ihe orders to liie l!e\enue crni/.ers, they were the niitural (!onse([in'iiiT of the rejection of the proposals which I had subiuitled to the Conferenee. flioso proposals he proceeded to critici/c as totally ina(h;(|uatc to the nect.'ssitics of lliecasc, and he aniiua(lv(>rled upon the words iu Artielo VI of tiio draft Convention, wliidi purport to |)reserilie IteifMlations on land. I iminicd out to him thai the draft ( 'onvcMitiou alTorded the most ample iirotectiim to seal life by prohibit iiu;; pela'^ic s(>alinu: duriiii; the periods of iniifration to iiiid from the Uookcries, and by cst:ildi:diin'j: a radius around Ihi' Seal Islands to |)revciit the siuTcptitious liindinir of marauders. .Moreover, it sup|)lied the most coin]ii('t(' machinery for .arrivini; .at ;i final (h-eision as to what regulations sliould lie adopted for tho jirescrvalion of the seal species. JNlr. lUaine tluMi urired that the liniled States, by the pos.session of the S-al Tslnuds, had iic(|uiivd special rights in IJclirinir's Sea as regards the .seal lisliery. He said that the I'uited States' IJovernuient coiihl never admit that Cireat Britain hail lidit; equal to their own iu that s(>a, .ami that they would not be s.atislied ■with anythinu: li.'s> than the total cMdnsiou of all sealinu' vessels from Uehriug's Sea during tin- siiaiincr months in which Her M ijesty's (ioxeninient pri>i)osed that tho iishory should be open I loiuinded Mr. HIaino that tiic sole (|uestion was the jireservation of the .soal >\)WKi. I iu'g(>(l th.at the draft Convoutiou m;ide ;imple [)rovision tor th.at purpose, 'lliat .ii reg.'irded the (daim wliiidi he .advocated on behalf of bis (lovernnient to special rii;lits beyond the t<'rritorial waters of Hiduing's Sea, it rested on novel doetriues eiitiiviy oi)posed to the law and prnctice of nnlicns. .1 also reminded jiim that be liail (|iiitL' recently inlormed me that the dr.aft Conver.tion. though not acceptable to his (iovcrii- ment in its ])resent Utvm, all'orded a basis of settlement. Mr. Blaine replied tlint he Lad at that time in bis mind the ])rovision relating to arbitration; but he dDubtod wlietber the two (iovernments eoulil mer come to terms as to the form of the ipiestion* to be submitted for decision. ily interview here cuue to an end, ^fr. Blaine having an ap[>ointment with tiid rresidcnt which eoinj)elled him to leave for the White; House. 1 liave, &c. f Signed) JULIAN PA U N CEi- OTJ], . No. 347. Sir J. Paunccfotc to the Marquis of Salisbury.— {Received June 3.) My Lord, Washington, May 23, 1S90. IN eomplianec with tho instructions contained in your Lordship's telegram of to-day, I have the honour to inclose copy of a note which I have addressed to I'lit witli tlw 473 Mr, niniiK'. in whicli I liavo infurincd him that a rorinnl proti^it hy llor Mnjosty'a (iovrriiiiu'iit agnitiHt nny iiitcrlcroneo with Itritisii vcsaelii in Uuhriug's Sua will be I'unvnrtltMl to him witliout (UUuy. I have, &o. (Simied) JULIAN I'AUNCHFOTK. Inch)suru in No. 347. Sir J. I'auncrfote to Mr. Blaine, Sir. ., n'aHliinijtnti, Mni/ 'i.'J, IM'.IO. F IFAVK the honour to inform you that n statement having apjH'Micd in tho iu'\vs|iii|iers, (o the cllect that United States' Hevenue eruizers have receivfd oriierH to proceed to Meiiiini^'s Sea Tor tiio pnr|)()se of ])reven(ini; tlie exercise of the seal- iisliery hy i'oreign vessels in non-tcMTitorial watei-s, and that statement iiuvini; heen conllrnied yesterday hy you, 1 am instructed hy the Manpiis of Salishury to state to you tiiat a formal pi-otest, hy Her Majesty's (iovernn>ent,aj,'ainst any such ii\terferenoo with British vuhsoIs, will ho Ibrwardud to you without delay. I have, &c. (Signed) .lULIAN PAUNCKFOTE. No. 348. The M(ir(iuis of Halinburi/ to Sir J. Pnuncejote. (Telegraphic ) Forrhjn Office, .luno ", 1890. INFORMATION has reached Her Majesty's Oovernincnt that ahout twenty-three British vessels have already cleared from ports in British North America fur llie seal fishing. All (piestion, therefore, of stopping them, even if Her Majesty's Government considered it exjjedicnt to do so, is at an end. No. 341). Sir J. Puuticefofe to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received .June 7.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, .hue 7, 1800. MIL ULAINE having inquired, on hchalf of the Prcsid(!ut, whether with a view to a friendly sctthsment hy arhitmiioji Her Majesty's Government would consent to tho tt)tal exclusion of Jiritish scalers for the present season from Behring's Sea, I replied at once that this -posal could not he entertained, as apart from other con- siderations which I explained there was no legal power to enforce such cxcdiisioii. !A[y answer has elicited a long note cxprc sing tho President's regr'^t that his most friendly and considerate })roposal for adjusting all troubles connected with tho Behring's Sea question sliould he rejected so promptly. AVith reference to a statement made hy mc to the effect that the furtiu'r examina- tion of the question had satisfied Her Majesty's Government that total exclusion went beyond the requircMnents of tho case, the note states that imtil the receipt of iny re[)ly the United States' (Jovernment had never he(>n informed that any otiicr ()l)jection to the proposal was (Mitertaiiied hy your Lordship than that assigned hy you when you abruptly closed the negotiatiiMis in London, viz., that Canada would not consent to it. It observes any privileges conferred on Canadian sealers must he cxten<l<'d at once to* American vessels, and that our proposed radius of 10 miles would expose fcnnale seals to be slaughtered hy hundreds of tiiousands. "The President does not conceal his disappointment that even for the sake of securing arbitration, Ucr Majesty's Government refuses to suspend for a single season the practice which your Ijordship described in 1888 as the wanton destruction of a valualile industry, and which tho United States' Government has uniformlv regarded as an unprovoked invasion of its established rights." I have declined in my acknowledgment of the note to continue the correspondence until I receive further instructions, especially as the views of Her Majesty's Govern- [128] 3 P !• ¥ 4t4 im>nt ar(> ulonrly i>.v|)laiii('(l in your IjohIhIuii'm (lfH|HtU'li ul' tlio 2'Jiul ultiiiu), vi|ii,.|, 1 rciul to till! Soonitury ul' Hliiti> only i IVw lioiirs holori' IiIh note ri'iuilit'il nu'. f < f. 1 1 ■■ (.til. No. .*jr»(>. Sir ./. I'nuiia'/otf In Ihr Mniijuiii o/ Siilixlturii. — {liirtived Jimr 7.) {'[\>li'ifM\\)\ur.) l\'(iiiliini/lon, Jiiiir 7, IMMI. .MIS. IILAIM'i lias |)o.s||ioii<ul our inUuviitw aiiantxt'd tor IIiIn nioniint;. I will (<iiili'av<)iii- to iiifi'i liJMi in the cimu'mi' oI' to-niori'ow. •Ci V No. UOl. ■ . . Thr Maniuis o'' Snlishiirii In Sir J. Ptiiinrrf'oli-. v'lVloi-'mpliic.) Fonii/ii ()J/i<r, June 1, ISllii. I itl'XilM'yi' lo li'Min IVoiii your teli'j^raiu ol llu* Ttli iiisliiiil tliiit the I'rcsidrni slidiild tliiiik I am uaiiliii<; in i'oii(;iliatiiin in (lii* iU'liiini;'s Sea nc^otialions, I Ihink, liowc'vor. that he niisiinilt'iHtaiuls liu' conditions ol" our hu*'. Thero is no power wlintcvrr wliicli wouiil onalilo llir Maji'Mty's Govornnicnt lo oxdinlc llrilisli or Catindian vissols I'nnn any |»art. of the lii^'li seas I'or liowcvor short a piMioij dt lime without lirst ohtainin^', in llie one ease, an .Vet of the liritisli Parlianienl. ami in the other one, of the Canadian I'arlianienl. " ^ Wo have always been willin;j, without pledfjin;;' ourselves to lietails as to area mid date, to ne;;otiate with tiie hope ol' eoininj;' to an arrau^^ement lor the eslahiishment nl a elose season so far as net'essary to preserve the liir-seal species, liul its provisions woiilil re<juiio the si.uction of the respective Lej;islatures. I do not reei 'j;nize the expressions which are apparently attrihuted to iiic in Mr. Blaine's note. I do not think I used them, not at ail uvenls in the context stated in the note. No. 352. Sir ./. I'dUiirt'Jolv In llir Miirqitix nf f^alislmnj. — {lii'reiri'd Jiiiir f*."j .My Lord, ll'itxliliii/inii, Maij !'!(, lf<!lo. Wrrii reference to my despalcli of tlie '2'MA instant, I have the honour lo inclose copy of a note which 1 have received from A!r. Blaine in lepiy to my eonumini- cntion of the 2:kd instant, in which \ informed him that a formal protest liy Her Majesty's Government aji'ainst any interference with British vessels in Bihrinn^ Soa would he forwarded to him without ilelay. J . 1 have. &e. ' (fc;ii;iied) .rUlilAN PAlJNCICKOn:. Inclosuro in No. 352. , ,, . Mr. Blaiiut to Sir ■/. Paunce/ote. '" .11 (' 'tfi J, Sir, Drpiuimriil nf Slulc, Mtii/ 2G, KSi)(). I HAVE the bonour to acknowledgo the receipt of your note of the 23rd inslmil, in which you inform n»e tliat Her Britannic Majesty's Goveninient will fornittlly protcsl against certain action recently taken hy thi.s Government for the protection of the Alaska seal fisheries. .•■ I have, &c. !•;•(') (Signed) J. G. BhALNK. 1'' No. aft3. Hir J. I'liHHO'folr Id thr \liir«iniM of SntiKhimi. — (Itfrifirtftl June \),) '^^.i .<r •. Mv l/iH'd, IViixhiiiijIon, Mail IV), \Hm. Wrril i-olVrciicc lo my iflf^niin "f to-i'iiiy'^ <liit<-, I liiivi! tin- IniinMir to iiii'liisi' ciiiiy 1)1' till' hole wliii'li I liuvr r«;c<>ivi>(l I'loin Mr. lilaiiii', iiil'iiriiiiiiK ino ol' tlio rrirrliiiii i>r tli(> ilrul'l Coiivriit inii hy liJN (2i)Vi>riitiu>nt aiitl timt of IliiMsiii, and Htatiiiif llif jjdiiiikIn I'm* that (l<H-isii)ri. I li(iv<>, (Sc*;. («iKn«;il) .IIJI.IAN I'AUNCimjTK. lncIoHun> in No. :i53. Mr, llliiine lo Sir ./. Piiunnfoff. Sir, Ih-iiiniiiii'nl of Sliili; Mnij i\), !>>!)(). VOI'H riotf III' tlir 2.'{r(l instant, already nckiiow Ir'dircd. ini'nrni'i tliix (iovcrnnH'nt. Ihiil y<Hi " liavc hocn inNtriictcd liy tlic Alarqnis ot' Ha!isl)ury t<i state tliat Hit Mi\j("*(y''; (loveninirnt wonlil I'Drward, Avitlioiit dcla,\, a |iri)tcst " against tin- rourse wliii'li litis (iovcrnini'nl liiis I'onnd it neei'ssary, under tlic laws of ('i»n;frcss, to piirsne in the waters of the Uelnintj's Sea. Ill turn, I am iiistrncted Ity the ('resident to protest a<,'ainNt tlie course of the Itrilisli (iitveriinient in anthori/.iny:, encoiira^iiii,', and |ii'oteetiiiK vessels wliieh are not (iiily iiilerrerin;,' with Anierieaii rij^hts in the Hehrin^'H Hea, hut whieh are iloinj» vidlciiee as widl to the iiu:Iits of the civilized world. 'Ihey are ontya^ed in a warfare ;ii,'!iinsl seal life, disre^^ardin^ all the Ucifiilations wliieli lead lo its protection, and coinniitliny; acts which lead ultimately to its destruction, as has heen the case in every [iiiit of the world where the ainises which arc now claimed as Itritish rif?hts have hern pnictiscd. The I'resi nt is surprised that such protest should he authorized Ity liord Sjilislinry, especially liccanse the previous declarations of his Lordship would seem to render it impossilile. On the 11th Novcmher, 1^M7, fiord Salisbury, in an olTicinl interview with Hie Minister from the United States (Mr. Phelps), cordially agreed that " ii (^)d(> of llcfjnlalions should he adopted for the preservatinn of the seals in Hehrini^'s Spa I'rnin destruction at iiin»ro])er times, liy improper means, hy the citizens of either enuntry." And fiOrd Salisbury sujw<.!;eRtcd that Mr. I'helps " slumld obtain from his (iovernment, and submit to him (Lord Salisbury), a sketch of a system of llci^ulations wiiicli would be ade(|uate for the purpose." Further interviews were held durin<^ the rollowin? month of Pebrnai-y (1888) between Lord Salisbury and the American Minister, and betwcfMi Lord Salisbury and the American Minister, accompanied by the Russian Ambassador. In answer to Liml Salisbiu'y's request, Mr. I'hcljis submitted tlic " Rc|,'ulations " which the (Iovernment of tho llnitod States desired; and in a (Icspatch of the 2rtth 1'\«brnary Mr. Phelps iiommunicntcd the followinj; to Mr. Hayard, Sirivtary of State :- " Lord Salisbury assents to your proposition to establish, by mutual arrani!;(>ment between the noverninents interested, a close time for t'ur-soals, between the ir»th April and tlic 1st Noveml:er and between 1()()° of longitude; west and 170° of longitude east, ill the Hehring's Sea. And he will cause nn Act to be introduced into Parliament to !,'iv(' cITeL't to this aiTangement so soon as it can be prepared. In his opinion, there \% no doubt that the .Vet will be passed. " lie will also join tho United States' (iovernment in any preventive measures it nifiy 1)(! thought best to adopt, by orders issued to the naval ves.scl8 of the respective (lovernments in that region." Early in Ai)ril (1888) the Itiissian Ambassador in London, AF. de Staal, advised the American Charge " that the Russian Government would like to have the Ih-ifiilations mIucIi might be agreed upon for the Hehring's Sea extended to that portion of the latter in whieh the Commander Islands are situated, ami also to the Stta of (Jkhotsk, in which Ilobben Island is situated." On the IBth April, at Lord Salisbiu'y's invitation, the Russian Ambassador and Mr. White (the .Vmerican Charge), Wr. Phelps being absent from London, met at the Frreign OlUce " for the purpose i)f discussing M'ith Lord Salisbury the details of the proposed Conventional arrangement for the i)rot.ection of s(>als in Rebring's Sea." t 1,- w '.( i ■■bT a *> k Ml ri28i 3 P 2 473 " With a view to raoctina; flic lliissian Government's wishes rospectinf» the waters surroundini;' llohben Ishind, liis lionlship sugi^ested that heside tlie wliolc ol' li('liiiii;''s Sea, tliosc jiortions of tiie Sea ol" Okhotsk and of the I'acilic (Jeean north of north latitude 17° shouhl he included in the proposed arranujement. Ilisliovdsliip i/itiniatcd, furtherinore, that the ])eri()d proposed by tlio United States for a closed time, from Hip loth April to the 1st >i'ov(>Tnher, mij^'ht interfere with the trade Ioniser than ahsojutclv necessary for rlie protection of seals, and he sui^i-'csted the 1st Octoher, instead of a month later, as tiu- tern:ination of the jjt'riod of seal protection." I'^urtlicrrnorc, Lord SalishiUT " |)niinised to have a draft ("onvenfion prepared for suhmission to tlic Russian Ainhassailor and the American .Minist(>r." On the 2;ii'd A])ril, the American Ciiarij'e was informed hy Lord Salishnry tlml "it is now ])r<)pi)sed to j;i\(' «>ITecl to a Seal Convention hy Order in L'ouneil, not by Act ot Parliament." It A\as understood that this course was ])rop(ised hy Lord Saiisiiiny in order lliat the " I'eiiinlationH " needed in Hehrin^'s Sea miiiht be iironiptiv apjdied. You will observe, then, that from the 11 th November, 18S7, to the 2.'?nl Ajiril, 1888, L(ml Salisbury had in every form of s|)eech asscited to the necessity of a elo.se season for tin.' protection of the seals. The shorti-st period which he named was from the lathAjiril to the 1st OelolH'r— fiv(! and a-half months. In addition, his Lordshi]) sui;'i;ested that the; closed sua for the ])eri()d named should incliule the whole of the Behrini^'s Sea, and shoidd also iiielmk' such portion of tin- Sea of Okhotsk as would be necessary to protect th(> llussiiui seal llshery on llobben islai\d; that the closed season be extended as tar south as •17'^ north latitude, 1*20 miles south of the northi-rn boundary of the United States on the I'acilic Ocean. l\v promised, further, to draft a Convention upon the subject betwei'u England, llussia, and the Unit<'d States. These assurances wore given to tlu> .A-merican ^Minister, to the Amerieau Ciuu'iji'-, to tlu> Hussitui Ambassador, and on more than nuc, occasion to two of tliem toi,'(!tlier. The United States had no reason, tber(>fore, to doubt that the whole dispute toueliin!,' the seal iisheries was practically settled. lnde(!d, to bav(> distrusted it would iuive been to (juestion the i;;oc)d faith of liord Salisbury. In diplomatic int(;reourse between <ireat Britain and the United States, be it said to the honour of both Governnients, a verbal assurance lV(tm a Minister has always been ecpial to his writtcni i)le(lj;e. Speakiui;' th(> same languaii'c, there has been no room for misunderstanding' between the J{epri\sentativ('s of the two (Jovei'nments, as may easily hap[)en !)etween tliO'ie of difl'erent tongues. .I'or a p.eriod of six months, tluu'ofore, ■■vithoiit retraction or qualification, without the suggestion of a doubt or the droppinu- of a hint, the under- standing between the two tiovernments, on the assurance of Lord Salisbury, was as comjilefe as language could make it. On the 2Sth April, five days after Lord Salisbury's last pointed assurance, live days after he had jiroposed to pei'fect the scheme, not by tie (l(>lay of J'arlianii'nt, but by the promptness of an Order in Council, the American Charge was informed that the Act of rarliament would be necessary in addition to the Order in Council, and that neither Act nor Order could be drafted " until Canada is he;ml from." For several wetdcs following the 2sth April, then! were many calls by the American Charge at the l''oreign Ollice to learn whether "Canada had been heard from." lie called alone, and called in company with the I'ussian .\nd)assailor. Finally, on the 2()th June, Lord Salisbury told him that an urgent teh'graia had been •'sent to Canada a week ago with respect to the delay in its ex|)edition," and that a reply had been "received by flie Secrc^tary of State for the Colonies, stiying that tlic matter will be taken up innnediately." ilr. AVbife, re'ving entirely upon these af-urances, ventured to " hope that shortly after J[r, Phelps' niturn the Hi'itish Covern- ment will be in a condition to agree upon the terms of the proposed Convention." !Mr. Phelps returned to London on the 22nd June, two days after Mr. White's interview with Lord Salisbury, and immediately after the urgent telegram had been sent to Canada. On the 2sth .Inly, .sir. Phelps had received no assurances from Lord Salisbury, and telcgraphi'd the l)o}iartment of State his " fear that owing to Canadian o])position we shall get no Couveution." In a despatch to his Govtuaunent of the I2th Septend)er he related having had interviews with Lord Salisbiuy respecting the Convention. which he says had been " virtually agreed upon except in its ih^tails." Mr. Phelps goes on to say: "The consideration of it lias beou susj)ended for eommunicatioa hy tlie British Government with the Canadian Government, for which purpose an interval During this long interval the attention of several mouths had been alloA\ed to elapse. 477 of Lord Salisbury had been repeatedly called to the subjeot by tlu; American Legation, and on thos(! occasions the answer received from hinx was that no reply from the Caiiadiim authorities had arrived !" Uv. Plielps jjroceeds in the despatch of the 12th September to say : " I aijain prcssod bord Salisbury for the completion of the Convention, as the (ixti'rniination of seals l»y Canadian vessels was understood to bo rapidly proccM'ding. J lis Lordship, in ivplv, did not (jucstion tlie propriety or the importance of takintf measures to jjrevcnt thcwiMiton d(;stru(;tion of so valuable an industry, in which, as lie remarked, lOngland liada lari^(! inti'rest of its own, but his Ijordship stated that the Canadian <Jovernment objected to any such r(!stri(!tions, and that until its consent could be olitaincd ller M.iicsty's (Jovernment was not wiliini? to enter into the ('oiivcntion." It was thus liiially acknowledged that the negotiation into which Lord Salisl)ury had cordially ciiiLi.:.! and to which he had readily agreed, even himself suggesting some of its most valualdo Jctails, was entirely sut)or<linated to the judgment and desire of the C^madian (lovernnient. This {Jovernnunt caiuiot but feel that liord Salisbury would have dealt more frankly if in the beginning he had informed Minister Pl.elps tjiat no arrangement could he made unless Canada concurred in it, aiid that all negotiation with tin? Ih'itish (iovernment direct was but a loss of time. Wiien you, Mr. Minister, arrived in this country a year ago, there s(!emed the best ])n)sp(!et for a settlement of tiiis question, but the Russian .Minister and the Anu'iican Secretary of Stale have had tlu; exptjrienee of Mr. I'hclps and tiie ilussian Ambassiidor in London repeated. In our early intervi(!ws, there set'iued to lie as ready a disposition on your part to come to a reas(jiial)le and friendly adjustment as there certainly has always been on <mr jiart to offer one. You will not forget an interview k'tween yourself, the llussian Minister, and inyseir, in which tiie lines for a (dose season in the Uchring's Sea laid down by Ir/.A Salisbury were almost exactly repeated by yourself, and were inscribed on Maps which were befor-'^ lis, a copy of which is in tlie possession of the llussian Minister, and a copy also in my jiossession. A prompt ailjustment seemed jiracticable, an adjustment which I am sure would have been hoiiouvahl(! to all the countries interested. No obstacles were presented on the iiucrican side of the (juestion. No insistaiUM; was made upon tne JJehi'ing's Sea as mare rbiisum ; no objection was interjiosed to the entrance of British sliijis at ail times, on all commercial errands, through all the waters of the Eehring's Sea. 15ut our neijotiatious, as in !London, wcr(! suddenly broken off for many Meeks by the interposition of Canada. AVlieii correspondence was rf'sumed on the last day of April, you made an offer for a ^lixed Commission of Experts to (lecid(> the questions at issue. Your proposition is that pelagic sealing slujuld be prohibited in the Jieliring's Sea during the months of ilay, June. October, November, and December, and that there sbould he no prohibition during tlie months of July, August, and September. Your proposition involved the condition that British vessels should be allow(>(l to kill seals witliin 10 miles of the coast of the J'ribylov Islands. Lord Salisbury's j)roposition of IS'^H was that, during the same months for which the lO-milt! i)rivileg(i is now demanded, no JJritish vessel hunting seals should come nearer to the Tribylov Islands tbn the 47th parallel of north latitude about OOO miles. Tlie opcni season which you thus sidect for killing is the one v. hen the areas around the breeding islands are most crowded with sea's, and especially crowded wit; female seals, going I'ortli to secure* food for the hundreds of thousands of their ycnmg of which they hav<! recently been didivered. The destruction of the females, whicli. according to i>xpert testimony, would be i)5 ]ier cent, of all which the sealing vess(;ls mio;lit readily capture, would inflict deadly loss upon t!ie rookeries. 'J'he destruction ottlie female would be IoIIow(mI by the destruction of their young on the islands, and tbe herds would be diminished tli(> next year by this wholesale slaughter of the producing females and their ofl'spring. The 10-mile limit would give the niarauders tlie vantag(! ground for killing the seals that are in the water by tons of thousands searching for food. Th(> opportunity, under cover of fog and night, for stealing silently upon the islands and slaughtering th(> seals within a mile or even less of the keepers' residence, would largely increase the aggregate destruction. Under such conditions, the British vessels could evenly divide with the United States within the 'i-mile limit of its own shores, and upon the islands themselves, the whole advantage of the seal lishcries. The respect which the sealing vessels would jiay to the 10-mile limit Mould be the same that wolves pay to a dock of .sheep so jilaced that no shepherd can guard them. This arrangement, according to your proposal, was to cmtinuo for three months of each year, the best mcmths in the season for depredations upon the 478 s'-'al howl. No coiu-so was loft to tlip United States or to Russia Imt to rojpct d,^ proposition. The* propositions made bv li<n'd SalishiU'j in 1S8S, and the projiositions nindiliv llor Majesty's Minister in Washins'ton in 185)0, are in siifniiieiuit eontriist. n,,, cireninstunees are tlie same, the conditions are tiio same, tlie ri<!;lits oF tlic I'liit,^! States are tlie sani(\ in both years. 'I'be ]>osifion of l*'n';liind lias eba'-^jtcd, lircaiisc the wisbes ol" Canada have demanded the cliani,'e. 'I'iie resnit tbei\ witli wliich Hi,. United Stales is expeefed to be eontenl is, tiiat lier riujlits witiiin the Hebrinvi's Sen nini on tbe Islands (iu'reol' are no) absolute, bid are to be determined by oin' df ||,,,. Majesty's provinces. Tlie British (lovernnKMit would assuredly and rimbtfully complain if an nifiiMMnint betMcen licr [v/rj Rejiresentative and the nepr(<sentative of the United Slates shnuM. without notice, bo broken oiV by tbe United States, on the lijronnd that the Stiito of California was not willinir that it should be com])leted. California has a (iov(>ninr chosen iiidepiMidently of the Kxecntive power of the National (iovermnent. ('(iiiiiila has a (iovernor apjiointed by the British Crown. The Jjogislature of California niincts laws with which the I''xecntiv(> ])ower of the United States has no r'\i^hi whatever (n int(M-lere; Canadacnacts laws with which the L'xccntive power of (treat Britain can inlerlVre so far as absolutely to annul. Can the (Inverninent of the United SImIi'sIii. expected to accept as final a d(>cision of tiic (lovcriunent of (ireat Britain tliii! an ;iii'rc(>nieiit with the I'liittvl States cannot be fulfilled beeans" tbe Provinc(> of Caiiiiila objects I This n>\iew of the circunistaiu'cs which led to lli(> present troubles on tli,, Bclirinu:'s Sea question has been pres(Mited by direction of the President, in (inlri' to show that the responsibility does not rest with this (Jovernment. Tlu> eliiniu'c nf policy nunle by ilci- Majesty's Cioveriinient without notice, and ai^ains' the wish nf tliis {Jovcrnnient, is, in the I'rosident's belief, the cause of all the diiferences tlmtlmvo followed. 1 am further instructed by the President to say. that while your proposals ol ih,. 30th April cannot be ■accepted, the United States will contiinie the n(>u,'otiatioi' in liii|)(> of reacbinii; an aijreeinent that may eou<luce to a j^'ood nnderstandinn, and lenvo no cause for future dis|)nte. In the President's opinion, owini; to delays for which ijiis Goveriiincnt is not responsible, it is too lat(> to conclude such negot iation in time tn i\])|ily its result tbe jn'(>sent season, lie, therefore, proposes that Her Majesty's (loveninicnt agree not to permit tbe vessels (Avliicb. in his judgment, do injury to the ])roi)('it,v nf the United States) to enter the Bchrini;'s Sea for this season, in order that time iMi\\ he secnrr for negotiation that shall not be disturbed by untoward events, or uiKhily influenced by popular agitation. If this ollcr be accepted, the President believes tiiiil before another season shall open tbe fri(>ndly relations existing between tlio twn conntries, and t!ie mutual desire to ••ontinnc them, will lead to 'i'reaty stiinilations which shall be iicrnianent, because just and bononnible to all ]>arties. I hav(!, (fee. ^Signed) .TAMKS G. BJ.AI.Ni:, No. nr.'i, sir J. I'tnincrftile to the Miirqui.i of Salisbiirji. — [Receircd June 1 1.) (Telegraphic.) IVashiuijtov, Jmit- 10, IMtH. .\S reported in my telegram of the Tth instant, my interview with Mr. Hliiiiic arranged for that day was postponed, and, not having received any further conimiini- cation from him, I called at his house yesterday. He then informed me timt the President was unwilling that he should jiniceed with the negotiations until lio hail answered your Lindsbip's despatch of the '_'2iid ultimo, of which I left a copy with liiin on the f'tli. He wished esi)ecial!y to send a reply on the charge that the United Stiitc-' Government were now claiming a right which they IkuI disputed when asserted by Ihissia before the cession of Alaska. Mr. Blaine promised me this reply before the end of the week, after which be wouki be ready to resume onr interviews. I complained of the delay, pointing out the danger of "some untoward event," iiml again urged him to give me an assurance that while the negotiations were coiitimiinj: there should he no interference with our vessels ; such assurance he declined to liivc, but he .said there was little likelihood of anything of the kind Imppcning before .bily. I think that the protest contained in your Liirdship's despatch of the -'!)lli May should be sent in before tbe Revenue cutters are beyond the reach of instructions. 479 Subject to your LordHliip's approval, 1 projtosc to Hcnd in the protest o.' tho 14th instant, iiit'orming Air. IJIairic tliat I havo (Itjfcrrcci doiiiy so until tlic last nionicn). I No. .'155. Sir ./. Panncefole to thr Mui-'juia of Salinbury. — {lii'cplvi'tf Jiinv 1 1.) (IVlt'i{ra|iliic.) IVttKliiiKjloii, .hnir 10, IK'.K). j\ I llie iuterviovr witii Mr. Blaiiii' nu'iilionL-d in my innnodialoiy preceding tilcsr"'"' ri'f*;i''''nw to Ids noto ol' llii- Itli instant,* I stated tiiat yonr honlsliip rourclted t!vit the ['resident should think you wnntin<:: in conciliation, that this was jjrobahly due to his iiciiifi' unaware that hy British law leyi-lation was necessary before any British vessel coiiiil he excluded from any part of the hij^h seas. Leiiislative sanction was also re(iuirod for any measures necessary for the ,)ii?:ierva- limi of the seal sjieciei-;. and Her .Majesty's tlovernmcnt have ahviiys heen \villiii<r to iicotiate fur the adoptien of such measures. As re^i-ards the expressions attrihuted to your Lordshii) by Mr. lilaine in liis note, I infonned him that you did not reoi),iiniz(> llieni, and that you certaiidy did not think voii could hive used them in the context mentioned. No. Ijntj. Sir J. Pininrrfolf In the Maniiiis of Snli.sliunj. — (Siilistdncr Irlri/nijilii'il, Jinin 11.) My Tjord, HV/.s7((Hf//«», ./(oie 1 1, 1rt;)0. 1 ll.WK the honour to inclose copy of the note from Mr. lUaine referred to in my Icli'pani of to-day, together with a copy of the reply whicii 1 have returned thereto. I have, &c. (Sijrned) .JULIAN I'AUNCI^FOTE. Inclosure 1 in No. IJ.'iG. Mr, llUiine lo Sir ./. Pauncefotc. Sir. il'iislii.:(/l()ii, .Iuik: 11, 18!)(). I IIAVH shown to the President the extract frotn the tele};iam of Lord Salisbury of tiie 9th .hine, in which liis Lordship states that "it is beyoiul the power of Her Miijosty's Oovernment to exclude Hritisli or Canadian .ships from any portion of tlie hiji^h seas, even for an hour, without lejjislative sanction." Not stojjpin^ to comnivnt upon the fact that his Lordship assumes the waters Miiioiuidiiii;' the I'libylolf Islaiuls to be "the \u><;]\ sea«," the President instructs me to Miy lliat it would .satisfy this (lovennneut if Lord Salisbury would, by ])ublic I'rodama. lion, simply re(piest that vessels sailin}>' under the liritisii llan' should abstain from t'liloiiug' the Behriuir's Sea for tho present season. If tins reijiiest shall be complied with, there will bo full time for impartial negotiations, and, as the President hopes, for a fniiully conclusion of the differences between the two Governments. I have, &c. (Signed) JAMES tl. BLAINK. Inclosure 2 "n No. 356. Sir .1. raiiiin't'olr lo ^^r. liluiiir. Sir Wasliinijton, Jiinr II, ISijO. I IIAVIO llio honour to acknowledge your note of this day with reference to the liiissnge in a telegram Irom the .Marcpiis oi' Salisbury which I eommnnicated to }t)'i at our inteivi(>w of the !)th instant, to the ellect that "it is beyond the power of Her Muicsl)'s tJoverninent to exc'nde British or ('auadian ships from any ijortion of the lii^'li seas, even for an horn-, without legislative sanction." ■ffl i:' 'I y if: It! w !^ei' Iiii'liisiirr 1 In No. 303. 480 Von inform me tlint willtout coitimontinfj; on tlio fact llmt his Tionlsliip fiHsiimcHtln waters siirrounilin;; tliu I'rihyloir Islimdn to l»o tlic liiffli seas, tin- President inslriicls von to s'ly tliat it would Hatisfy your (Jovernnienl if liord Salisbury would, \iy ],||"i,|ji> Pro( lamution, simply request tlin( vessels sailin;^ under the Krilisli flnj^ .should nlisini,, from enlerin;; (he lielnin;;'s Sea for the present season. You add, if this re(|iiest hIihIH,,. complied with, (hero will he full time for imjiartial nefijotiations, and, as tiie iVsiti,.,,) hopes, for a friendly eonclnsion of the diderenees between the two (JovernmentH. I have teU\u[rapl)cd (he ahove eommunieation to liOrd Halishnry, and \ iiuiiji i,,, FiordHhip's iiiHtruetions thereon. In the meanwhile, I take this opportimity of iiiformini' you (hat I reported to his liordship by telej^raph that at Iho same interview I hl-hjii pressed you for an assurance that Hrilish sealinf;-vcs,sels w(>uld not be interfered will, j,, the nehrinf;'.< Sea by United States' {{evenuc erui/.ers while the nef^otiations <'(iiitiiiii(.,|, but you replied that you could not fi;ive sucli assurance. I tru>t this is not n fmal decision, and that, in the eomso ol' the next few (Jhv^ while there is yet time to eominunieate with tlm Coininanders, instructions will Im' i,'.||| to them to abstain from such interference. It is in this hope that 1 have delayed deliverinj,' the formal protest of Her Mnjcslvv (lovernuK'nt ainiounced in my note of the L'Mrd May. I have, tkc. (Signed) .MJLIAN PAUNCKKOTi;, No. 357- Thr Mnrquis of IStilislmry to >S/r ./. Pmmcrfolc ('releu'raphie.) Forelijn Office, June 11, IS!)I). l\ reply to your telefiiam of yesterday, yo\i may present tho I'rotest. No. .S.oH. iS^iV ./. Painirrfoir to the Morijins of Snlhlmry, — {Received June 12.) (Tele.niaphic.') fVashimjton, June 11, IS9rt, HI'il'MORHlXG to my jircvious telegram of to-day, I presume that llcr Majesty's Government have no objection to refer to arbitration the question of the legal rigiit of the United States' (lovernment to exclude Jlritish sealing-vessels from Hchring's Son. If this I)e so. I should be glad to know whether (hey would consent that the proposed Proclamation should be issued on tho express conditions that the United States' Govern- ment ^liall not interfere with our flag this season, and, if the award be against them, shall at once pay damages for past interference, and compensate Hritish sealers for iossc- sustained by them in complying with the Proclamation. No. .'ino. The Marqiiii' of Suliiibury to t^ir J. Pmmcefote. (Telogrnphie.) Fomyn OJ/ire, June 12, 1S!)(I, IN reply fo your telegram of yesterday, T have to slide that there are serious con- stitutional diHicKlties in titc way of your proposal. Hut it niijilit save tiiH(> if, without prejudice to (>ither side, you cnidd nsk tin' Ciovenmieiit of the United States whether, supposing Her Mnj(>sty's (Joverinneiit were I to agre(> Id issue a J'rK'lamation, and as to its terms, tlit! Unit(>(l States' (loveiiimfii! will agree to tho three e(Hulitions formulated by you, namely, to refer the leijniity of their )»ri)e(>,Hlings (o arbitration, to abstain from any interl'erenc(^ with (he l!rili<li ilag, and, in ease of an adverse award, to pay for damages resulting from the | J'roclaniation. 481 No. 3(50. . . The Mitrquis of Salisbury to Sir ./. Pauncefale, (Tdegmpliio.) Foreign Office, June 12, 1800. IM'Uj'EHUING to my previous telegram of to-day's date, if we eould corao to terms on tluH proposal we would HUgj,'eHt some such kind of I'rochimalion as tbe following :— "Whereas, the United States and ITcr Majesty's Gtwcrnmcuit have agreed to refer to arbitral i"i' the legality of the aetion of the United States in making certain captures of Uritish vessels in the llehring's Sea; and whereas the Uniled States iiav(! engaged if tin; award should 1)0 adv(!rs(! to them to pay eompensation not only for past iiiierfereiie<', hul for any loss arising from al)slention from sealing eonse(iuont on this I'roclamation. Captains aro hereby requested not to seal in Uehring's Sea (luring the present season." No. 'Ml. Sir J. Pauncrfnle to the Marquis of Salixburij. — [linceived June 1.3.) My Lord, IVashinijIon, June '], 1890. J JIAVI'I the honour to inform your Lordship that, since the nMjeipt of Mr. JiJaine's note of th(! 29th ultimo, informing mo of the rejection of tlie draft Convc'tion hy his Govoniment, 1 liavi; been in <!onstant communication with liim, with the view of commg to some possibh; settlement of the JJehring's S('a quisstion. On the .'U)tb ultimo Mr. Elaine informed me tiiat he was to bavo an interview with the President, tlio result of which be promised tf) communicate to mo as soon as po8sil)le. 1 Mceordingly received a note from him last night, a copy of which is inclosed herewith, in whieb be states that tbe I'residcmt is of opinion that an arbitration eould not 1m! con(!luded in time for this season, but he is anxious to know " whether Lord Salisbury, in order to ])romote a friendly sf)lution of tbe question, Avill make for a single season tbe llegulation Avhich in 1HH8 be olTered to make iiermanent." Your Lordship will obs(!rvctbat the above proposal is identical with that contained at the concilusion of Mr. Elaine's note of the 29tb ultimo. In view of the receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 31 st ultimo, and iu order to save time, I at once wrote a note, a copy of v,'bieb is also inclosed, to Mr. Blaine in n^ply, iu wlucb I informed him that Her Maj(!sty's (iovcrnmcnt were not prepared to agree to such a llegulation as \>as suggested by Mr. Jilaine. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCErOTE. IS i Inclosurc 1 in No. '•Wl. Mr. Blaine to Sir J, Pauncefote. My dear Sir Julian, Department of Stale, Washinrjion, June 2, 1890. I HAVE bad a |)rol()nged interview with the President on the matters upon which wc arc endeavoiu'ing to eoinc; to an agreement touching tbe fur-seal question. The I'resident expresses tiii! opinion that an arbitration could not be concluded ill time for this season. Arbitration is of little value unless it is conducted with the most careful deliberation. What the President most anxiously desires to know is whether Lord Salisbury, in order to promote a friendly solution of thc! question, will make for a single season the li(!gulation which iu 1888 be olfercd to make permanent. The I'resident regards that os the step which will lead most certainly and most promptly to a friendly agreement between the two Governments. I have, &c. (Signed) JAMES G. ELAINE. g;fe ' i :, P [128] 3 Q 482 Inclosurc 2 in No. 361. Sir J. Puuncefote to Mr. Blaine. f ••: Dear Mr. Blaine, ^ IVaxliitujlon, June ',i, \H%, IN reply to your letter of yesterday evening toucliiug the fur-seal question, 1 l)p» to state that I am in a ))osition to aiiswer at once the inquiry " whether Lord Salisl)ury in order to promote a friendly solution of the question, will make for a siii<,'le season the Regulation which in 1888 he offered to make permanent." Tlie words which I quote from your letter have reference, no doubt, to the proposal of the UiiitcMl States that British sealing-vessels should be entirely exdndcd from the Behring's Sea during the seal fishery season. I shall not attempt to discuss here whetl\er what took place in the course of the abortive negotiations of isgk amounted to an offer on tho part of Lord Salisbury "to make such a rei^ulation permanent." It will suffice for the present ])urpose to state that the further examination of the question Avhich has taken place has satisfied his Lordship that such an exliemi measure as that proposed in 1888 goes far beyond the requirements of the case. Iler Majesty's Government are quite willing to adopt all measures which shall he satisfactorily pi'oved to be necessary for tho preservation of the fur seal species, and tn enforce such measures on British subjects by proper legislation. But they are not prepared to agree to such a regulation as is suggested in your letter, for the present fishery season, as, apart from other considerations, there would be no legal power to enforce its observance on British subjects and British vessels. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 362. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received June 14.) Sir, Downing Street, June 13, 1890. I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, for the information of t\w Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, forwarding a claim from the owners of the " Pathfinder " for the detention of that vessel at Neagh Bay in March last. . . I am, &c. • (Signed) EDWARD WINGKIELD. Inclosure 1 in No. 362. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford, My Lord, Governmmt House, Ottawa, May 20, 1890. I HAVE the honour to forward herewith, for transmission to the United States' authorities, a copy of an approved Minute of tlie Privy Council of Canada, to whicli k attached a formal declaration of the managing owner of the British schooner •' Path- finder," setting forth the particulars of the seizure of that vessel in Neagh Bay, in the State of Washington, by the United States' Revenue cutter " Corwin," and preferring a claim for damages to the amount of 3,000 dollars against the United States' Government in consequence of the said seizure. Your Lordship has already been informed in the Deputy Governor's despatch of the 23rd October last of the circumstances of the former seizure of this vessel in Behring's Sea on the 27th August laat by the same United States' cruizer. I h ,ve, &c. . . , (Signed) STANLEY OF PRES'L'ON. 483 Inclosure 2 in No. 362. neporl of II Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved hi/ his Etrellennj Governor-General in Council on the \2lh Mav, 1890. the OX a Report dated the 23ra April, 1890, from the Minister of Marine and Fislieries, submittinc,', in connection with previous Reports on the subject of seizures of British fishin"-vcsseis in the Behring's Sea, and more particularly with reference to the Minute of Council approved by your Excellency on the 14th September, 1889, detailing the circum- stances ot the seizure of the scliooner " Pathfinder," a formal declaration of the managing owner of the " Pathfinder," in which arc set Forth particulars of the subsequent seizure of the vessel in Neajih Bay, in tiie State of Washington, United States of America, on the evening of the "iTtb March, 1890, by the United States' Revenue cutter "Thomas D. Cornin ; " the Commander having recognized the " Pathfinder " as a vessel which had been seized in Behring's Sea during the previous year. Tlie "Pathfinder" sought Neagh Bay through stress of weather, and was undergoing repairs nt tlie time of the second seizure. Tlie vessel was towed to Port Townsend and placed in charge of officers from the Revenue cutter, until released on the iifternoon of the 29th .March. The ^linister further submits a claim advanced by Mr. William Munsie, of Victoria, British Columbia, merchant, as managing owner of the vessel in questi'^n, amounting to li.OOO dollars for loss resulting and expenses by reason of the seizure. The Committee on the recommendation of the ^Minister of Marine and Fisheries, ailvise that your E.\cellency be moved to forward a copy of this Minute, together witii the paper herewith, to the Right Honourable tlie Secretary of State for the Colonies, for transmission to the Government of the United States. .Ml which is respectfully submitted for your E.xeellency's approval. (Signed) J0HI!5 J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. inclosure 8 in No. 302. Declaration of Mr. W. Munsie. Dominion of Canada, Province of British Columbia, City of Victoria. 1, WILLIAM MUNSIE, of the city of Victoria, in the Province of British Columbia, racrchnnt, solemnly and sincerely declare as follows : — 1. 1 am the managing owner of the hereinafter mentioned schooner "Pathfinder," ilulv registered at the ])ort of Victoria aforesaid. 2. The said schooner is employed exclusively in the sealing business, and left the poit of Victoria on or about the 17th January last on a sealing voyage along the Pacific coast, soutli of Vancouver Island. 3. On (U- about the Stli February last the "Pathfinder" returned to Victoria for repairs, and sailed again for the same purpose on or about the 12th February last. i. On or about the 23rd diiy of March last, when off Cape Flattery, the " Pathfinder " encountered a storm and became disabled by the breaking of the tiller-band, nnd was forced to find shelter in the nearest harbour, Neagh Bay, in the State of Wasiiington, United States of America, lying about 9 miles from Cape Flattery. The "Pathfinder" anchored in Neagh Bay on the 2Uth March last. On the evening of the 27th March, while still lying in said bay, undergoing repairs, an officer from the United States' Revenue cutter "Thomas D. Corwin," boarded the "Pathfinder" and asked for the ship's papers. These were handed to him, inspected by him, and in reply to a question by the captain of the " Pathfinder" as to whether they were all right, he replied that he woulJ report to the Captain of the cutter. Next morning the Captain of the cutter sent an officer on board the " Pathfinder " with a request that her captain would go on board the cutter and take his papers with him. The captain did so, and after looking over the papers the Captain of the cutter said he recognized the " Pathfinder'' as a vessel which had been seized last year, and that he must detain her, as the law must bo maintained. He then ordered the captain of the " Pathfinder " to heave his anchor, and said he would take the " Path- finder " to the nearest telegraph station, which was Port Angeles. The captain of the " Pathfinder " protested against being removed, and declined to hoist anchor. The [128] 3 *Q 2 481 Captain of the cutter replied that if he did not hoist anchor men would be sent from the cutt"' to do 80. Upon tiiia the captain of tlic " Pathfinder" went back to IiIh vessel and ordered his men to heave the anchor up. The " Pathfinder " was then taken in tow by the cutter, and taken to Port 'I'ownsend At that place two officers from the cutter were placed on board the " Patlifinder," and remained in charge until the " Pathfinder " was released. The captain of the " Path. finder " entered a protest from the office of tlic Collector of Customs, Port Townsend and also filed a protest with the Captain of the cutter. After doing so he was persuaded to withdraw both protests until reply had been received from Washington as to what disposition would be made of the " Pathfinder." 5. The "Patlifinder" was released on tiie afternoon of the 29th March last, and arrived at Victoria aforesaid on the mjjrning of the Slst March last. 0. By reason of the said seizure or detention of the " Pathfinder," her owners have lost at least a week of f lie best period of the spring r.easons for sealing. In consequence also, of the seizure and detention, a number of the crew of tlie "Pathfinder" have deserted, causing inconvenience and loss in filling their places. 7. In respect of the said seizure and detention, and of the losses thereby resulting and for the expenses incurred by reason of such seizure or detention, 1, as mana^inc owner of the " Pathfinder," claim of and from the Government of the United States m damages the sum <^,000 dollars. And I, William Alunsie, make this solemn declaration, conscientiously believing the same to be true, and by virtue of the Acts respecting extra-judicial oaths. (L.S.) (SignJd) WM. MUNSIE. Declared at the city of Victoria, British Columbia, this 3rd day of April, a.d. 1890, Before me, (Signed) Autuuk L. Bei-vka, A Notai]/ Public hij Koi/al Authority in and for the Province of British Columbia. So. 363. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marfjnin of Salisbury. — (Received June 1(5.) My Lord, Washington, June G, 1890. WITH reforcnce to my despatch of the 3rd instant, I have the honour to inclose copy of a further note which I liavi^ received from Mr. Blaine on the subject of the proposed exclusion of British sealers from Behring's Sea during the present season, together with the reply which I have sent thereto. I have, &c. (Signed) J. PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure 1 in No. 303. Mr. Blaine to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Department of State, Washimjton, .Tune 4, 1890. I HAVE your favour of the 2nd instant. The President sincerely rf-yrcts that his considerate and most friendly proposal for adjustment of all troubles connected with the Behring's Sea should be so promptly rejected. The paragraph in your note in which you refer to Loi'd Salisbury's position needs explanation. I quote it in full : — " It will suftice for the present purpose to state that the rurther examination of the question which has taken place has satisfied his Lord.sliip that such an extreme measure as that proposed in 1888 goes far beyond the requirements of the case." I do not know what may have been the "examination of the question" that "has satisfied Lord Salisbury that such an extreme measure as that proposed in 1888 goes far beyond the requirements of the case." I only know that the most extreme measure proposed came from Lord Salisbury himself, in suggesting a close season as far south as the '17tli parallel of latitude, to last from the 16th April to the Ist Octolier in each year. tlio ')Otli parallol 485 At tlio close of his negotiations with Mr. Phelps, in September 1888, his Lordship, still approving the " measures to prevent the wanton destruetion of so valuable an industry," declared, apparently with regret, that "the Canadian (rovernnient objected to any siuOi restrictions" (i.r-., as those which his Lordship had in part i)roposed and wholly approved), and tliat, "until its consent would he obtiiined, ller Arajesty's Government was not willing to enter into the Convention." It is r>vident, tiierefore, that in 1^88 Lord Salisbury abruptly closed the negotiations because, in liis own phrase, "the Canadian Ciovernment objeeted." He assigncnl no otIi(>r reason whatever, III, until your note of the 2iulwas received, this (Jovernment had never been informed that Ills Lordship (Mitertained any other objections than those expressed in September 1888. It is proper to recall to your recollection that at divers times in i)ers()nal conversa- tion I h''ive proposed to you, on behalf of this (lovcrnment, a close .season materially shorter in paint of time than was voluntarily offered by T^ord Salisbury, and much less extended in point of space. Instead of going as far south as the 47th parallel, I have frequently indicated the willingn(;ss of this (Jovernment to talxc the dividing line between the I'acilic Ocean and the IJcltring's Sea — tin? line which is tangent to southernmost island of the Aleutian group — being as near as may be th( of north latitude. Early in April you will remember tbat you suggested to mo tlic advantage that miglit follow if the sailing of llevenuo (fitters for JJehring's Sea could \hi jjostponcd till the middle of Alay. Though that was a matter entirely under the control of tho Treasury Department, Secretary Windom promptly complied Avitli your request, and bv the President's direction a still longer postponement was ordered in the liope that some form of equitable adjustment might be proposed by ller ilajesty's Government. Even tho Jlevenuc cutter which annually i)asses through •JJehring's Sea carrying supplies to the relief station at I'oint Barrow in the Arctic Ocean — 72nd degree of north latitude — was held back, lest her appearance in IJehring's Sea might he mis- represented as a non-observance of the understanding between us. It is perfectly clear that if your claim for liritisli vessels to kill seals within 10 miles of the I'ribyloif Islands, directly after the mothers arc delivered of their young, should be granted, the Uehring's Sea would swarm with vessels engaged in sealing, not forty or fifty as now, but many hundreds, through the summcn- months. If that privilege should be given to Canadian vessels, it must of course be; conceded at once to Amcsrican vessels. If the rookeries are to be thrown open to Canadians, they would certainly, as matter of common right, be thrown open to citizens of the United States. The seal-mothers, which reqiiire an area of from 40 to 50 miles from the islands on all sides to secure food for tlunr young, would be slaughtered by hundnnls of thousands, and in a brief space of time there would be no seals in the Hehring's Sea. Similar causes have uniformly pi-oduced similar effects. Seal rookeries in all parts of the world have been destroyed in that way. The present course of Great Britain will produce the same effect on the only seal rookery of any value loU in the waters of the oceans and seas of the globe. The United States have leased tho privilege of sealing because only in that way can the rookeries be preserved, and only in thai way can this Government derive a revenue from tho Pribyloff Islands. Great Jiritain would perhaps gain something for a few years, but it would be at the expense of destroying a valuable interest belonging to a friendly nation, an interest which the civilized world desires to have preserved. I observe that you quote Treasury Agent George II. Tingle, in your despatch of the 30th April, as showing that, notwithstanding the depredations of marauders, the total number of seals had increased in the Bchring's Sea. The rude mode of estimating the total number can readily lead to mistakes, and other agents have differed from Mr. Tingle. But, aside from the correctness or incorrectness of Mr. Tingle's conclu- sions on that point, may I ask upon what grounds do the Canadian vessels assert a claim, unless they assume that they have a title to tho increase of the seal herd ? If the claim of the United States to the seals of the Pribyloflf Islands bo well founded, we arc certainly entitled to the increase as much as a sheep-grower is entitled to the increase of his flock. Having introduced Mr. Tangle, who has very extensive knowledge touching the seals in Bchring's Sea, as well as the habits of the Canadian marauders, I trust you will not discredit his testimony. The following statement, made by Jlr. Tingle in bis official Report to the Treasury Department at the close of the season of 1887, is respectfully commended to your consideration : — ■ 11 W,'J h H; u ft •V) 1 m # HH U^ I dfiO " I am now convinced, from what I gather in qncstioning the men bolonjfiug to captured schooners, and from rcadinsj the logs of tho vessels, that not more thiin onii seal in ten killed and mortally wounilcd is landed on the boats and skinned; thus vou will see th(> wanton destruction of seal life without any hcnetlt whatever. I tliink 30,000 skins taken this year is a low ostimato on this basis; 300,000 fur-se;ils were killed to secure that uuml)er, or three times as many as the Alaska Connncrcial Company are allowed by law to kill. You can readily sec that this p;reat slani,'liti'i'(if seals will in a few y(>ars make it impossible for 100,000 skins to be taken on llic islniuls by the lessees. I i>:irnestly hope more rit;orous nu'asures will be ad()j)t(>(l by llic Government in denlim^ with these destruetiv(! law-breakers." Hoth of ^Ir. Tinijie's statements are made in bis oflleial capacity, and in both cnsis he had no temptation to slate anything except what he honestlv believed to lir tlic truth. The President does not conceal his disappointment that, even for the; smKc of .seeiii-inii' an iMii)artial arbitration of the question at issue, ller ]\rajesty's Ooveninniit i< not wiliiniji' to suspend for a sinLfle season the praetiee which Lord Salisbury descriln'il in l.SSS as " the Avanton destruction of a valuable industry,'' and wliieh this (iovcni. ment has uniformly regarded as an luiprovoked invasion of its established ri^'hls. I have, «&;c. (Signed) JA^VFES (i. BLAIM:. Inelosure 2 in No. 363. Sir J. Pauncefole to Mr. Blaine. Sir, Washington, .June (i, lSi)(). i I1AAM3 the hon(mr to acknowledge the reeeijjt of your official note of the ttii instant, commenting upon the reply which I returned to tlie incjuiry contained in your letter of the 2nd instant, Avhether the Marquis of Salisbury would, in order to pmimite a friendly solution of the fur-seal question, agree to the total exclusion of Jhitish sealers from the Jlebring's Sea during the present fishery season. You expressed tlic regn^t of the I'rcsidcmt that " his considerate and most friendly proposal for the adjustment of all trouble connected with the Uehring's Sea should be so promptly rejected." I have this day transmitted a copy oi your note to Lord Salisbury, and, pendini,' further instructions, \ will abstain from ])ursuing the discussion on the various points with which it deals, ('si)ecially as the views of ller Majesty's Government on the main ([uestions involved are stated with great precision in Lord Salisbury's despatiih of tV 22nd May, which I had tho honour to read to you yesterday, and of which, in accordance with your desire, I left a copy in your hands. I Avould only observe that, as regards the sufficiency or insufficiency of the radius of 10 miles aromid the rookeries " within which Her Majesty's Government propose that sealers should be excluded," no opportunity was afforded me of discussing the (jnestion before the proposals of Her Majesty's Government Avere summarily rejected. I may mention iilso that I fear there has been some misa])prehension as regards a request which you a])pear to have understood me to make respecting the date of the sailing of United States' llevenue cutters for Behring's Sea. I have no recollection of having madt! any suggestion with reference to those llevenue cutters, except that their Conmianders should receive explicit instructions not to apply the Municipal Law of the United States to British vessels in Behring's Sea outside of territorial Avatcis. 1 have, &c. (Signed) J. PAUNCErOTi:. No. 364. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received June 18.) Sir, Downing Street, June 17, 1890. I AM directed by Lord Kmitsford to transmit to you, for the information of the Mar(iuis of Salisbury, a copy of the Annual Report for 1889 of the Canadian Minister of Marine and Fisheries. 1 am to call attention to the Eeport on the fur-seal fishery. ' ' I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BKAMSTON. m Inclosuro in No. .')64. Fat riirl from the Annual Report of the Department of Finherien, Dominion of Canada, for the calendar year 1889. Marine Furs, TIH'i Keturna mIiow an iniTonsc in tlio catch this sctison of 5,587 t'nr-soulskin», and twenty-five sea-otters. There were \fi'22 more sealskins tiiken on the coast by our vessels than in 1888, nnil 2,558 more by tbreij^ners, who sold tlicir cntciies in Victoria. The following Table shows the detailed catch of the sealing fleet for this season : — Rktukn showing the Number of Vessels, Boats, and Men engaged in the .Marino Fur Fishery of British Columbia, with the Products and Values, for the Season of 1880. '/. u. 1 caught in ing's Sea. , Number o \iimc 111' Vessel. Name of Owner. i» •3 1 u I'M « Vnluc. i2 y. s 3 y. Seals coast Colui SeaU Jiehr Total .Seals iJoUars. Patlilimler .. Came and Munsie . . 66 6 24 942 4H 990 9,900 Vivn „ .1 • • 92 6 22 1,481 2,182 3,663 36,630 Man- Taylor „ ,t_ • . 12 11 25 748 , , 748 7,480 Tlu'resii ' . . Bnhbiugton and Co. . . 63 7 23 482 828 1,310 13,100 Aniiii' C. Moore C. Hankett 213 7 23 802 1,318 2,120 21,200 I,ily Morris Moss . , 70 18 41 500 532 1,032 10,320 I'pnclopt' „ t, *■, 70 6 21 384 1,769 2,180 21,800 l,ily )» „ • • 68 13 26 280 74 354 9,640 Sappiiirc K, 13. Marvin 123 25 52 1.304 1,020 2.990 20,900 Aiiroiii . . Adolph Wasburft 41 13 38 816 , . 816 8,160 .luiinitii Hall nnd Goepel 40 13 29 135 29 161 1,640 Arirl K. \V. Uucknam !)0 6 22 934 1,400 2,331 23.340 Knti.' Chas. Spriiig S8 10 24 624 800 1,424 14,240 Favoiite ; ,, • • 79 10 25 340 1,764 2,104 21,040 Mngisie Mack J. D-jdd . . 70 6 25 777 1,290 2,067 20,670 W. P. Snyward J. D. Warren 59 12 29 557 1,643 2,200 22,000 Minnie N'iotor Jacdbsen 4C 10 21 200 500 700 7,000 Mountain Chief „ „ . • 20 5 13 210 • • 210 2,100 Wanderer . . H. Payton.. 15 6 15 178 , , 178 1,780 Black Diamond M. Moss . . SI 12 29 629 55 684 6,840 Beatrice Wm. Grant 67 7 22 500 700 1,200 12,000 Sierra . . a a 10 2 5 80 , , 80 800 Winifred . . 10 2 5 22 • • 22 220 •- 1,49!) 213 659 12,985 1G,S8S 29,670 • ■ 295,700 Sia-otter caught hy seal n;; fleet, 15, at 100 dolli irs each • • 1,500 Kstimntc of senlsi purcha '-ud from Indians a a • • • • .. .. 4,000 40,000 seii-ottci pui chased from Indians, 10 ), at 10 3 dollar i each , ^ 10,000 „ hair sen: .s. 7 iran 00(1 . . d total by Canadinii vess els • • • •• •• • • 2,625 t 33,570 349,825 rr. 1; '! 1' :«i I l4 48dt Pfri-SKAi.s caiiffht by Foreign VchhcIh ami disposcil of in Victoria, British Colmnlmi XiimbiT (if Niimljcr of Nnnio of Vi-i>Hel, SciiIm niiii;lit nn ItrltlNli SuuIk CllUgllt in Totiil NiinibiT of Si'iHu. Total Viiim ('olumbiii foii«t. Hi'lirin^'M .Si'ii. Dollur,. Wiilt.r 1,. Itiili . . , . American I,U!» . , 1,410 14.1:11) Son Dii'^ii . f M l>{l , , 69 li'JU T. II. l^cvii .. •-'12 , . 243 3.42U Vinluio ., ,, .• .•li- , , 317 .•1,170 Alii.' S. Al-iT .. as;) , . •26-6 a.S.'IO Hiirrv iUiiiun , , • • ,» IH 700 718 7. 180 Lottii' • • •» , , 02.7 62S il,'J.')i) Miillio Ailiiiiis , , 1 . *1 ^ , \,r,r>^ 1,5S3 l.'i..>;iii HoJdic Itlll!l'|- • . , , .')2,5 MS ■),'J.')0 Adclo . . . . Ovriniiu fi)ri'i<5iicis •-• 10 1,'I67 1,707 17,(170 Tot il 1)\ 2,.'..J8 4,870 7,4'J8 : i,'.'.si) It will tiius be seen that there are more vessels in tlie trade tlian last year. This was oil account of an anticipated settlement of the Beiiring's Sea (luestion. The vessels had been previously purchased on the Atlantic coast for the purpose of prosecutin;;; tliis trade in Heliring's 8en, but when they reached this coast and found the (piestion was still unsettled, they paid more attention to hunting on the coast. No. 366. Adm'iraUy to Foreign Officu. — {Received June 'JO.) Sir, Admiralty, June 19. 1890. I A.\I eoiiiinanded by the Lords Commissioners of tlie Admiralty to transmit, for the perusal of the Secretary of State for Foreign A (fairs, copies of two letters from Caiitain Hulton, of Tier Majesty's ship " .Vmphion," respecting the Beiiring's Sea fishery. I am, &c. (Signed) EVAN MACGREGOR. Inclosure 1 in No. 36/). Captain Hulton to Admiralty. (Extract.) " Amphion," at Esquimult, May 28, 1890. WTTIT reference to your recent telegrams to hasten the repairs of Her I\[ajo,sty's ship " Amphion," if possible, .she being very much required, and your inquiries as to the movements of the sealing fleet to Bchring's Sea, I have the honour to supplement my telegraphic replies as folloH-s : — I inclose herewith a list of the sailing-schooners cleared from Victoria for this season's fishing, and about to dear, furnished me by the Lieutenant-Governor, his Honour Hugh Nelson, in reply to my letter of which a copy is attached. The scaling fleet have just about finished their coast catching, moving slowly up from the Californian coast, and are now midway between Clayaquot Sound and the southerniuost of the Shumagan Islands. The vessels mostly cleared in February and March, and few of them return till the autumn unless in distress of some sort, owiug to difficulties with their crews, with drunkenness and desertion. One or two vessels communicate with them from time to time, bringing back the catches of skins, &c. As they work north they replenish at a sealing store in Clayaquot Sound, and by the end of June they have all assemided in the Shumagan Islands, and are mostly to be found in North-East Harbour, on the southernmost but one of the islands of that group. A second point at which the vessels are then to be found is at Sand Point, about .'50' to the northward of North-East Harbour, where the vessels beach to clean and repair, re victual and water. Sir, I .1 2 It .'1 J 4 W 5 G \' 7 M « s. 10 M u M 12 .Si 13 M 14 L 15 .\ IG P. 17 T 18 l''i 19 \- 20 .M 21 M 22 Si 23 K. 24 W Col uinliiii. 'otttl Viilin'. Dnllkr.. M.I III) I'i'.KI L'.rjii ;i.i7(i 2,.'):i(i 7.1811 (i.'J.'ill l.'i,.".;io •■>,'J.'iO 17,1171) : i.'jHo year. This Tile vessels cciitiiij,' this inn was still 19, 1890. smit, for the •din Captain icry. JREGOR. 480 A third linrhour which thoy use, a little north of Sand Point, ig Fulmoutli Hnrbour, h\il it is Bmnllcr, and not ho much trequcntcd. About the '-'Olii Juno a Hmnll vessel (jirohaMy a Hmnll Htonm-tuj^) will po up to the above rendezvous with Ictieis. &e.. nnd to receive Hkins; slic would nrrivc tncro about tlie 27 th or 28tli June, nnd the scliooneiH would nctnin «oi<rh nnd pot nmonpst the seals working their way to tlio imissch, ])rinei|)nlly the Unimnk mid the 7"-'nd I'ush, ns it is cftlU'il (IT'-" west longitude). These passes the vessels all go through between the IbI and 10th July. 'I he time the vessels arc in the Reliiing's Sea is from the 1st or lOlh July to about the \ot\\ or 3t)lh Seiitemher, Ihcuigh, if a vessel is lucky, she has frequently left by the latter half of August, not to return again that season. Inclosuie 2 in No. 305. Captain llulton lo Lii'iitrnanl-Govcrnor AV/.son. Sir, " Ampfiiou," at Esquimalt, Mai/ 2^, 1890. I HAVE tlic honour to recjuest that you will he good enough to in'truet tho Colloelor of Customs to furnish me as (jiiickly as possible with adeliiiled list of ihc sealing- vesseis owned by Hritish subjects tbnt have been cknicd for the north i^inesuiiiably for Ik'lning's Sen) for this summer's sealing. On the li>t, I am anxious to have shown nie the tonnage and rig of tho vessels, niiines of the cnptnins, numbers of their ercws, nnd the names and addresses of their owners; nnd I further reque-t that the Collector of Cnsloms may be directed to give me every assistance in getting the fullest information possible. I have, &c. (Signed) E. GREY HULTON. Inclosure 3 in No. 365. Special Memorandum for Lieutemnt-Govcrnor Nelson. I I m e t Sealing Vessels cleared for Behring's Sea. 28, 1890. er Majesty's ies as lo the iplement my )ria for this )veriior, his ig slowly lip nd and the return till • crews, with I'om time to und, and by re mostly to inds of that Point, about ) clean and .\... Schooner. Muster. Tors. Crew. 1 .Iniinitn, .lOW .>i.^ soot . . L. Olsen 40 4 2 HIiicU lliiimoml. now KnMinrine ll.Smih HI 5 ,'i Mollio Ailiinia. n i)\v E. B. Marvin . . .. U. E. .MeKeill .. 118 2.'J 4 Wi.lur I.. Kich II, V. Siewerd .. TO 23 5 ciii HiUu W. (). I.eary .. 8fi 23 fi W'ntuic , . J. McLeod .. 4S 4 7 \V. I'. Saywiird (i v.. Kciey .. (0 7 8 Si'ii l.ioii V. Mi\};iie.sen ,. 50 2t <) Triuinpli V.COK 98 20 10 Miiif^jie M;iek .lohnM. Dodd .. 71 21 11 Minnie ., V. .lacotism 46 10 12 Sjippliire W. Cox 120 9 13 SI iiy 'I'liyKr .1. Da'cnport . . . . 43 3 11 Lily . . 0. McD.nald ., G!) 6 15 A morn .. V. lliirod 41 4 10 P.nelope A. C. I'\.l-jcr . . 41 20 17 Theresa .. .Jolin Steele . . . . (i:! IZ 18 I-'nvorite li. McLean 6t 6 19 \"\\a W. v.. H.,ker . . 92 23 20 .M^ry Kllen I» McLean 63 27 21 Mountain Chief Jftnies Ncwnssiim ( Indian i 23 S 22 Sien a . . Thos. (;lieetnmilet (Indiai.) 25 5 23 Kutc .. (>. ' nonuM 58 S 24 Wanderer Ily. Piixion 26 Aliont lo clear. [128] The before-mentioned all of Victoria Registry. ,i^ I 3 R 4<K) Tliem' InHt-nioiiMoiicd of HnflfiHtry iit PoHh named. ail :)() Nd. til) HnliiiDiicr. I. . . ■ 1 MiiBtcr. Torn.. i 1 (Vcw it, Aimir (;. MiMirc .. •• • • V. tliM'kclt, iirSMIi Ill', Nmvii Nnitiii 117 1 'i'i ■Jfl Ariol .. .. • • •• .lolni Ki'illy. iif Ht. .IdIiiik, Nnwrmiiiilliiiiil 1)1) ! 7 ■27 (V 11, TuplHT • • • • , , , , ('. S. K,.|ly w\ II 2H lU'ulri V .. • • " f. Kidu ■ ■■" ■ " ■') 01" Sliiuijflmc. but of Uiilisli Kcf^iHtry. ('iiniu'liti' In iivi'iiliii' tViini lliilirii<i. I'lii'liriiliiri mil jih ^it lllltllilMllic. Ailolc ., .. .. (Irrmiin, vi-Rioli'iril iil Slinnjjliiir Tlio followitij; of l'\)ioif;i\ l{i<;riHtry. (). W. (). Himncn ■'.0 .Villi Rniiio Ave vrwioln of Uiiitcil SIiiIi'k' MMiliii|j;.N('liiiiiiU'l''< timt iiiiiki" this llirir )iiii'l iif ilr|iiniiiir. (Sioiu'(l) A. K. Mi\,\K, Collrrlor of CitHlnms. Inclnsiiro I in No. lWi>. Full her Mniwraiiihini in re Sen Inn for ('(tfdnht lliillou. N... Sr lOllIll'l'. i I .Iii!iiul!i. now Mil col . . 1 .liiliii KiiiKinaii , , III sliiiriw. •i lllni'K lliiiniiiiii!, low Kalliiiriiii' . . .Iiilni 1,. I'cimv Diilo. i) Mollio .Xitiitni, 11 IW 1 ;. n. Marvin .. .Iiilin 0. Pov Mtiniif^iiitx owner. 4 I'lilliliiulor, now I'miiriT . . ' William Miiii»ii' DiMo, A Wiilior l„ Hi,.|i . . 1 ('liarlt'N N, Canirnin. . llillo. r< (Vi'iiii Hi'IIi- , , .. iliiliii Kinsiiiiin Dilto. 7 Vi'Mliiro. . , , . . Di'iiiilil Ui'i|nliai't Dilto, H \V, l». Suvwmil • • ., '■ Anilrcw I.ainjt '•-itto. 11 Sou l.iiiti , , . . ' (li'iiim- ('i.lliiiH ., lit hlllll'I'K. 10 'riiiiinpli ,, g , .,1 Jolin (i. ('ii\ ., Mniiauiii){ owner. 11 Miiji^jii' .Miii'k , , • • ..' .lolin Doilil.. Dilto. Vi Miniiii' ., , , . . , V. .lai'iiliHi'ii ., li 1 Nliai'eN, 1!> Sn|>|iliiio , , .' Joiin ;;. Ci)\ M»iiaj{iii){ owiu r. 11 Miirv Tax lor , , . . Williniii MiiiiNio Ditto. 1.'. I.ilv . . V. .laiiilmi'ii . . Ditin, Ifi Auiorn . . , , . A. \Va>lH'i>c Ditto. 17 I'milopo . . . , Mill ri* MoKH Ditlo. 18 'I'luil'MI . . , , .. 1'. A. lliilibiii){tnii .. Ditto. 1!) l'"iivoiito , , .. ('I.;irli's ."'ininn 01 Nliari'S, 80 Viva , , . . Williiiiii ]\lim»ii! Miinii- 'ijf ownrr. 31 Mnrv AUin , ^ .. Morris Moss 01 !.lii„r«. 32 Moiiiiluiii ("liiof ^ . , .liiniis Nfwnssiim .. Miinnnini; ownrr 33 Sii-rri , , .. 'I'lios. I'hi'i'tiiialU'l . . Ditto, 24 Kato . . . . Cluirli's Spriiin .. III KJiinv*, 25 W'aiiilrivr •• .. lly, raxloii 1 .Alannginn owner. SO 27 30 .\imio (\ Mooro Ariel . . {', II. Tnpp.-r Ueatriee . , CiU-inelile \ot lecorili'il ill Victiiriu. Il,(' Diilo. Ditlii. Dilto. Ditto Allele .. ,. .\ Her. nail vessel, ie^;isteroil in Miiiii^!iae Tlie five L'mteil States' seniors inontioneti in List No 1 are, of emir.-ie, not of reeord at Vieloriii, K.C". ,V„/, — The aiidivss of nil the al>ove mentioneil owners is Victoria, H.C, willi the e.xeeption of Joliii I.. l':Mim. of the Bchoouer " Kuthnrinc," wlio.sc niiilress is Clayatiuot .">ountl, li.C, via Vietoriii, It.l', (Signed) A. ]{. MILNE, Ctlh'ctor of Customs anil Riyislrar of Shippimj. iin '■••■' ''•' '•••" ■""-'? No. 366, Th MtmiutM nf HaltHliury (n Sir J, Panni^ffnte. ' "' " Hir, ' Forvitin OJ/irr, Jiiiif 20, 1890. I IIAVI'i to ^l(•kno^v^•(l^-<• vour (lcH|»itcli ol' tlic Wth ultimo, incloKiiif,' ropy of a note iVoiii Ml". IHnitu", tliilcd llic 21»il' nllii'io. II conliiiiiH Hi'vcnil loton'ticcn lo commniiiciitionM wliicli rmMHod lintwoeri tho two (Jdvcinmt'iilH ill tlu" t.i?im of Mr IHiiiiic'H iinMltv^oMnor, c-pccially in Mic Hpriii;^ of 1HH8, Willioutr r(<ri'rriii;i,' ill. pi/scnl to villicr portions of Mr. riliiim-'H note, I "isit only now tw |iiiinl out. HOMU' CI lor in tJit; iinpicKHiDiiH wliicli lie Iuim ^iitlicri'il from )lic n^cords in )iiH ollicc witli iCHpcct to llioKO (■oinmiiiiicd tiiMis. Il(^ stalcM lliil, on llic li'trd April of tiiiil ,yciii' I inroniifd the Amcrioin <'liiir;!:(' d'AHiiircH, Mr. Wliitc. tliiit, il, whm jiropoHcd to yivi- fll'ccl lo II Hciil (Joiivcniioii liy Order in (ionncil, not l)y Act. ii\' I'lirliiimont. ThiM wiiH II minlnku. It wiih very imlunil tlmi Mr. Wliilc nlioiild not liiivi^ iipprtdiendod me corroctl)' wIkmi I wiih dcHcriliiiiff llic soincwliat compliriitcd iirriinr^cmcntH liy wliicfi \r,|(ciii(MilH of IliiH kind iirc ltroii;;lil into forcr in Kni.jl(ind. lint bvo or lllr('(^ days iil'li'r lln^ -•"'111 April Im' culled (o iniikc impiiry on tin- siilijcct, and, in reply to liis <|iii'.sti()ii, llu' follow in;; teller wan addressed lo liiin liy my iimlnielioim : - "My dear White. " Fomijn ()//irr. Anril 27, 1BHH. "Lord SaliHiiiiry deKiicH ine to esprcHH Ids re/jrel tlial ln' is not yet in ii position to iiiiikc any I'lirllier coinmuiiication lo you on the Hiihject <d' tlie seal lislierie-i in liehrinf^'n Sea. Afler his iiilerview witii yon and M. de Slaal he had to reli.T to tin- (/'anadian (Idverniiient, llie Hoard (d' Trade, and the Adniirally. hut has as yet. only iditained tiio <il)iiiiiin (d'tlic Adniirally. The next step is lo hrin;; a Mill into I'arliaiiKmt. " VoiiiH, hv. On tho 2Sth Mr. Wliit« replied (SiKiicd) " Vmw, H\urin(;ton." " My d ar Bariiii'jftoii. "Thanks for your note, respectin;^ the (iual senlenee of whiidi, 'Tin liriii;; a Mill into I'arlianunit,' ( must tronhie \oii uilh a line " Lfi(/(ttin)i of till' Uiiiird Sttiirs, fjoiiflon, Ipnl -'8. iH.SH. next step is to I-. ■• ■■■■• ■■" ......<...., . .....<„ .,..,.,,,v T"'> "■■•I <■ ...... " I iiiHiei''>lood li(U'd Salishiiry to say when [ saw him with M. de Staal, and (i;;;iiM last week alone, that it i.s now propositi to {jive effect to the (Conventional (irriiii^'einent for llii! protect ion e! seals hy an Order in Council, not hy Act of I'avliniiient. " When Mr. I'helpv, h it, tlm latter was Ihou^jht necessary, and last week I rucL'ived a telei^raiM from the Secretary id" State, askin^f ine to ohiaiii conlidentiaily a cdiiy of the proposed Act of I'arli.inienl, with a view lo assindlatinij onr eonlemplati!'! .Act III' (lonnress thereto. I I'eplied. afler seein;; Lord Saiislniry las! Sahirdfsy, that tlicie woidd Ik; no Mill inirodnced in I'arliament, hut an Order in ( oiincil. ''May i ask if Ihis he now incorrect, as, in that event, I sliotild particularly like to conecl, my former Htateinent hy tliiH day'.s mail." To this the following reply was on the same date addressed to Mr. White ; — " My dear Wliite, " Fan-ii/n Office, April 28, 1888 " ijord Siilishiiry is afraid tiiat In; did not make himself imderstood when last iio spoke lo you iihoiit tlie S(;a! h'isheries (Convention. "An Act of l^irliamunt is necessary to {jive power to our authorities to acton llio iirovisions of the (.'onvenliim when it is si;jiied. The Order in Council will ho iiU'icly the nnichinery which the Act will provide tor the purpose of hrin^jin;;- it.n Iirovisions into Ibrce. The ohjccit of this machinery is ',o enahle the (<ov(;niiiieiit to wait till the other two Powers are ready. Mut neither (Coivenlion nor Mill is drafted yet, bwaiise wo. .ave not got the opinions from Canada wliieh are necessary to enable us to proceed. , ., , ,, ,, .;,. : ' . ' '• !i . iju ,1 I . " Yciurij, &c. ' • ■' ' • ' ;. I . ,;, (Signet.) "Ejuc BAiiniXGTON." It is evident from thi.s correH])ondenco that if the United States' Government "as misled upon the 2»rd Ajiril into the belief that Her Majesty's Government coukl ji'oceed in the matter without nn Act of Parliament, or could proceed without [128] .') 11 2 492 previous icrorciico to Cnnnjliv, it was a niiHlako which must hiivo hccn cn'irely dissipiitid hy tlu- corroKpoii'li'iu'c which followed in the tMisuinjj wook. Mr. llhii;io is nlso uiidi-r ii iniscoiu'cplion in ima}iiiin^ that I ever "rave any vorhni ns^:^•.(•nIu•p, or anv proniiso of anv kind, witli rt'spocl to llie tiMiiiH ot' Die projected Convention. Her Al.ijesly's (iovernnient niwnvs have heen, nml nic stJH nn.xioiis for the nnan^ienient of a ("oinontiou which kIiiiII provide whatever cliiso time in whatever h)cahties is neces>^ary for tlie preservation of tiie fur-seal species. Dnj 1 have always represented that the ditails must he the suhject of discussion, a discussion to whieli those wlio are locally interested must of m cessit v conliihute. I lind ijic record of the following- conversution ahout the date to which Mr. Jilaine refers: " T/if Alarijiiis of Sali.shiirii In .S'j;- ],. IVi'sl, " Sir, " Forcii/n O/fice, Miirrli 17, ISHS. "Since forwardin;; to )ou my ilcs|iu(ch of the 'J'J\u\ ullimo, I have heen in eommmiication wilh the Itussiau AmI)asMidoi at this Courl, ami have invited his Mxccl. leiicy to ascertain whether his tiovernment would authorize him to discuss widi Mr. I'lulps and myself the suj:;j>eslion made hy Mr. Ihiyard in his despatch of tlie 7tli Fehruary, that concerted action shoidd he taken hy the Uintcd Slates, (ireat Ihilain, and other interested I'owits, in order to preservi; Ironi extermination the (ur-scnls whi<h at <erlain seasons are found in ltehrin<:f's Sea. "Copies of the correspondence on this <iuestion which has passed between M. de Staal and mysi'lf is inclosed herewi.h. "F re(piest. that you will infor'" Mr. I'ayarJ, of the sleits which have heen lakrii, with a view to ihe initiation i;f m^-;). in J ions for an A<;reenient hetween tlie tliioc Powers princijially concerned i.i 1" 'i^teiunice of the seal lisheries. IJul in so doinjr, yon shoidd stale that •.! ,; ■; . on the ]i.irt of Her Majesty's (Joverniiu'iit, must not he taken as an admisM.m of tlie riuhts of jurisdiclic ii in itehriu^'s Sea exercised tiu're hy I'.o United Slaten' authoriiies durin;'' l!>.! lishinir seasons of 1SS(!-S7 and 1SS7-8S, nor ns atfeclinu' the claims nhieli !!er Majesty's (Joveninioiit will have m present on account ol' the wronjjfid seizures which have taken pljice of British vessels eugajved in the seal lishiog- industry. " T am, &c. (Signed) " S.vi.isiiiiiv." \n pursuance of this despatch, the sii-jjiestion nuide hy Mr. Hayanl to wliicli 1 referred w.-is discussed, ami nen'olialions were initiated for an .Aureement helwcoii the time Powers. The follmvinj;' des|)atch contains the record of what I l)elicve wa.s the iirsl meeliu!^ helween the Kepreseutatives of the three Powers upon ilic suhject : — " T/ir Xfaniuis of Salislmrii m S'/c L. fVcsf. " Sir, "The Hussian Amhassador and tlie ' nptni m • this allernoon to discuss the o 'C; irouniit into promin, ic '• Fon'iijii OJficv, Apiil 1(», tS8S. iicii Sliites Char;;<'' d'.MIaires cnljoil ■I ^>J the seal fisheries in neliriiii;'s ^" i'> recent action of th • Tniloil desire that some .A'^rci'inont Sea, which had heen Slates. "The I'niled Slates' (iovernnient had cx|>rcs.."-il should he arrived at hetween the tluH'e (ioveuiincnts ior the nurpos<' of prohihitiuL' tlie slanjihter of the seals durinu' the time of hieediHf; ; and, at my request, .M, ilc Staal Mild ohiiiined instructions from his tiovernment ,)n that (|uestioii. " At this preliminary discussion it was decided proiisiondlli/, in ordrr to iuinish n hfisis for iirtjnlidlioii, aiul tiilhout ih'liiiiiirrhi pirdqinff cur (iovnniiivnls, that ihe spiice to be covered hy the ]>ioposed Convention should be the sea between America ami Hus-ia north of Ihe l7tli decree of latitude; that the close time Hhouhl extend from llie irilh .\pril to the 1st Novondier; tlii't durin;;; that time the slau^^hler of all seals slioud be f<nhidden. and vei si'ls enga^icd in it si \'d be liable to seizure hy the ciuizer'< of any of the three Power-, ai.d should Ik li.k.n to the port of their own nationnliu for condemnation; tha, ''ir nthc in arms. ■\i M ,i' inul powder should he prohiliitecl in all the islands of t' -v seas ; and thai, ,in;ii a? the three Powers had cuu'luileil a C(mvention, (hey siioidd join in submiltmg it for the assent of the other Miiriiime Powers ot the N'orl'iern Seas. "'il;e U'vted ytn;* s" Oharg6 d'Atlaires was exceedingly earnest in pressing on us tUe importa;>e»; of disimt.!; '.i aucuuut of the inconceivable slaughter that had been, and '10» was Htill. going on in Uiesc hciih. IIo stated tliat, in addition to tiic vast (|iiantity hroujyht to miirkot, it wort a coniinon practice for those enaja^^cd in tlit! trade to wlioot all hciiIh they miglit '"•?*'•' '" '■''c opoji sea, and that of these a ^'cat niiinher sank, ho that their skins could not be recovered. .. "I am, (ki-. (MiKHcd) "S\i,isiinuY." It was imiiossildc to slate more diHtinclly tliat any proposiil made was provisional, nntl wiis merely n'.ade lor the piirpoose of enahlin^; the re(|ui-ile negotiations to proci'ed. TlicHuliMMpUMil discussion of these proposals was nndoiihtedly delayed in conscipiciici' of (lie icnulh of time occup ed hy the CJnnadian (lovernnn lit in collt'clin;^ I'roni (jonsidcrahic ilistnmcH the information which they re(|uired Itefore their opinion on the siiltjcct, could lie lliomunldy formed, and after that it was delayed, 1 Itelieve, chiefly in (lonsecpuMicc! of the political events in the United States unconnected with this (piestion. I tliink it (ii'siiiihic to correct the iniscon(!cplions wiiich have arisen with respect lo these tians- iiclioiiH ; llioufjfli I d(» not think that, even if ilie view of them which is taken by Mr. HIaine is accurate, they would hear out the ar^umenl whicli he founds upon l.heni. I shall be f^lad if you will take tlie «)ppoitunity of iidormini; Mr. iJlaine of these corrections. I am, &r. (iSi-rued) SALISIVUllY. 1 UB m ^K It*' 1 w t Hi I I'm No. no7. Till' Miiniuis of Snllslmrii lo Sir J. Pinnicrfole, Sir, Fr, iijn I'^p, Juiw 20, IS'JO. I IFAVK rccc'vcd your despatch of the .'ird instant, and 1 approve the i.ole (rliicli you addressed to Mr. Bluint? in reply to his in<itiiry wlKMlier Her Majesty's fldvcrinnint would consent t(» "make for a single season the Hcgulation," as to the killiiy of seals in Hehring's Sea, " which in 1H88 they oll'ercd to make permanent." I ttin, &c. (Signed; SAIilSltUllY. II No. 30P. .Sir ./. PiiuncpfoU; lo the Murqula of Snlishury. — {lirrniurd Jiinr 21.) h^ WuMnijIon, .liinc 21, IHOO. 1 IIAVH (he lionour to report to your Lord.ship that a lelegram is pul)lis!ied in the wspnper of today, dated I'ort Towiisend, in Washington S(ate, .1 Ik .. ../« •tl • l.t .1 i.wt •' (Tckginphic.') i II AVE " Wiishini;ton Po-t" newspnper ot today " •'" n* [...|,- .^ , — - " ,, , '.'(itli .luiie, slating that the ]{evoiuie cutter '"Corwin" arrived there on the 18th on it.s my to IJehring's Sea, and will await furil' r orders, la the same tehgrani it is stated that the " Kush " is at Sealiie, in Washington State, and is awaiting orders at that purl. No. 3(39. The Marquis of aalisbitri) to Sir ./. I'liuncpfote. Sir, Foreign Office, June 21, IS'JO. I vVl'PROVE the reply, inclosed in your despatch of the (itii instant, wliieh you returned to Mr. Blaine's note of the Itli instant, in regard to the proposed exclusion uf Jlritish sealing-vesscls from Behriiig's Sea during tin; prjsent Koi"' .... It is unnecessary, in view of the observations contained in my despatch of the 20th instant, that I should discuss at any length the circumstances whusli led to an interruption of the negotiations in 1888. With regard, however, to Mr. Blaine's remarks that in 1888 I had abruptly closed 494 the negotiations licciiusc "i\w Canadian Government objected," and that "T assigned no other reason whatever," I should wish you to call Mr. Blaine's attention to the statiunent of Mr. Phelps recorded in my despatch to Sir L. West of the 3rd April 18S8, that " uiid(M' the peculiar political circumstances of America at this moment' witli a lyeneral elecition impending, it would be of little use, and, indeed, hardly ))racticable, to conduct anv negotiation to its issr.e before the election had takon place." I am, &c. I ' (Signed) SALISBURY. No. ;370. Sir J. Pauncefolv to the Marquis of Salishury. — {Received June 24.) My Lord, JVashinyfon, June 10, 18!)0, WITH reference to my telegram of to-day, 1 have the honour to inclose lierewitli copy of a Memorandum wliioii I gave to Mr. Blaine at onr interview ot yesterday on the subject of ihe inability <;t Her Majesty's (Jovernmi;nt to exehule Britisii vessels from the high seas without legislative sanation. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAX PAUNCEFOTE. s- Inclosure in No. -'ITO. Memoravduin. LORD SALISBURY regrets that tlie President of the United States should thinl: him ^vanting in conciliation, but his Lordship cannot refrain from thinking that tlu' President does not appreciate the diflicalty arising from the law of England! It is entirely beyond the power of Her Majesty's Government to exclude Ihitish or Canadian ships from any portion of the high seas, even for an hour, without legivlntivc sanction. Her Majesty's tJovermnent have always been willing, witliout pledging the;ase!ve> to details on the questions of area and date, to carry on negotiations, hoping thereby to come to some arrangement for such a close season as is necessary in order to preserve the seal species from extinction, but the provisions of such an arrangement would al\>iiy> require legislative sanction, so that the measures thereby determined may be eutoreed. Lord Salisbury does not recognize the expressions attributed to him. Ho docs not think that he can have used them, at all events in the context mentioned. No. 371. Sir J. Prmiicefofp to the Marijuis of Salixbury. — {Received June 25.) (Telegraphic") Washington, June 2.5, ISOO iHiTHOlGH I heave not yet received the Secretary of State's promised reply tn your Lordship's despatch of the 22nd ultim>), and tiiough he refuses to proceed witli tile negotiations until that reply is delivered, 1 am informed that he lias announced his intention of leaving for the north in the course of next week. I therefore venture tu suggest that I may be authorized to address at once to Mr. Blaine an olllcial note, replying to the President's inquiry, in the sense of your Lordship's telegram of the 12th instant, viz., that the issue of a Proclamation as proposed by the President involves dithculties of a Constitutional nature, and Her Majesty's Government could only consent to issue it as i)art of a general settlement, and on tin three conditions named below : — 1. Tliat the (piestion of the legal right of the United States' Government to inter- fere «ith British sealing-vessels in Belning's Sea be submitted to arbitration. 2. That, pending the result of the arbitration, tiui United States' Government cea-e all interference with Jkitish sealers outside of territorial waters. 3. lat, if the result of the arbitration be adverse to the United States' Government, British subjects be compensated, not only for past interference, but also for all losses ensuing from their compliance with the Proclamation. No, 372. .;' _:'\ ' ,• Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Rpceiied June '26.) (Extract.) Downhuj Utrect, June 25, 1890. WITH reference to previous corresnondence, 1 am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from tbo Governor-General of Canada, forwardinjjj an approved Minute of his Privy Coimcil recommending that .an assurance should be sought from the United States that no attempt will be made to interfere with British vessels in Behring's Sea during tlie present season. ' Inclosure 1 in No. 372. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, The Citadel, Quebec, June 12, 1890. WITH reference to previous correspondence on the subject of the seizures of Canadian sealing-vessels in Behring's Sea, I have the honour to forward herewith a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Coimcii, embodying a Report of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries. The Minister forcibly presents the grievance sustained by Canadian subjects in the course i)ursued by the United States' authorities in regard to this matter, and, in view of the fact that another sealing season has opened witliout any intimation of a HJtlulrawal, on tlie part of the United States, of their extraordinary claim to jurisdiction over the waters of the open sea, he recommends that an assurance be sought from the United States' Government by Her Majesty's Government that the claim to jurisdiction beyond the 3-milc limit will be no longer insisted on, I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosure 2 in No. 372. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council on the 7th June, 1890. ON a Report, dated the Gth June, 1890, from tiie Minister of Marine and Fisheries, expressing regret that iL again becomes necessary to call *he attention of your Excellency to the long period which has elapsed since the illegal seizures of British sealing-vessels by United States' Revenue cutters occurred, and to the annual continuance of this molestation : Tlie Minister desires to remind your Excellency that the attention of the Imperial authorities has frequently been called to all the facts and circumstances connected with tbe different seizures which have occurred since 1885, and to observe that, notwith- standing the opinion of the Law OfKcers of the Crown as to the absence of any jastification on the part of tlic United States' authorities for the acts complained of, and despite the protests of the British (iovernnient which were presented to the (Government of the United States, the great wrongs to British subjects go unredressed. The Minister would especially point out that as yet there has been no withdrawal on the part of the United States' authorities of the assertion of their right to prevent subjects of Her Majesty from engaging in hunting seals in the deep waters of Behring's Sea, Tiie Minister observes that intense embarrassment and financial loss has been experienced in connection with the prosecution of this pursuit, due not only to actual arrests and molestation, but to intimidation caused by the attitude assumed on the part of the United States ever since the year 1886, as regards the right of sealing in B'5 \ rv 490 Bchring's Sea. As evidence of the strong desire on the part of your Excsllency's advisers to cordially co-opcrntc with tlie Imperial authorities in reaching, if possible, a friendly settlement, tlio Minister recalls the fnot that upon the urgent retpicst of Her Majesty's Government, the (lovernmentof Canada agreed to a discussion of tlio (iiicstion of u close season for fiir-senis in the Ikdiiiiig's Sea, notwithstanding the iierpolrniiini of the gross wrongs and injuries complained of by Canada, and in the absenci' of am detinitc assurance or offi'r of reth'ess. The Minister desires to refer to the Minute of Council approved on the IStli day of ISfarch last, dealing at lengtli with a note from the Honourable Mr. Blaine, Secretary of State for the United States, communicating the reply of the United States' (jovcriinicnt to a protest by Mr. Edwardes, on the piirt of the Imperial tiovcrninent, in October last, against the seizure in \>H[) of Canadian vessels. After dealing very fully with tlic question, the Minute went on to say: — " Knowing the desire of both Her Majesty's Govermnent and the Canadian people to maintain as friendly relations as possiiile with the people of the United States, the Minister recummends that Her Majesty's (Joveinment be informed tlint your Excellency's advisers are prepared to discuss any proposetl international arrangement for the proper protection of the fur-seal, but that before such an inquiry is eoniplcled they expect that the (|nestion raised by the seizures of Canadian vessels in the Hehriiig's Sea shall be settletl according to the law of nations, and that (he claims for indemnily now in the hands (if Her Majesty's Government shall be fully satisfied.' The Minister furtiier observes that while negotiations are in progress toucliins the question of a cl(>se season, another sealing seasmi has begun without any intinintion nf a witlulrnwal (ui the pari of the Unite. ^ States oi' tiieir extraordinary claim to jurisdiciiuii over the waters of the open sea, nor has any indemnilication been made or assured to the subjeeis of Her Mnje-ty «ho have i^ullered loss I'nnn the illegal acts on the part of the United States' authorities. Indeed, it is currently reiiorted in the press of the United States and elsewhere that the United Slates' Kevenuj cutters will this year tontiuno to interfere with and harass ISiitish sealers when in Ikhring's Sea. 'I'iie Minister is of opinion that it is at least due to Her Majesty's subjects intcrcsteil in this branch of iiulnsiry to have authentic knowledge of the actual jjosition to ho taken in connection with liehring's Sea during the coming season by the authorities of the United States, and he, therefore., recommemls that Her Majesty's Government he urged to obtain an immediate assurance that the claim to jurisdiction or authority over sealing-vef.sels when beyond the 3- mile territorial limit in Behring's Sea will he no longer insisted upon. The Committee, concurring in the above Report of the ^linister of ^Marine and Fisheries, recommend thai your Excellency be moved to forward a copy of this j\linutc to the Kiglit Honourable the Principal Secretary of State for tiie (,"olonies. 'J'iic Committee fuither advise that a copy hereof be also forwarded to the High Conunissnmer for t'anathi in London, with instructions to him to ])ersonally press upim the Seer'^tary of State for the Colonies the urgent necessity for obtaining from the Government of the United States satisi'acloiy assuraiu'es upon this guDJect. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. iMcGEB, Clerk, Privy Coinicil. No. 373. The Marqvis of Salislntrv to Sir J. I'auncefote. (Telegrapliic.) Foreign Office, June 2(i, 18'J0. THE proposal made in your telegram of yesterday has ray entire concurronce. 497 No. 374. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Substance telegraphed, July 3.) My Lord, Washinaton, July I, 18Q0. 1 HAViiJ the honour to transmit a copy of a note which I received yesterday evening from Mr. Blaine, in answer to your Lordship's despatch of the 22nd May, of which I left a copy in his hands on the 5lh ultimo. In this note Mr. Blaine endeavours to show that the ne^^otiations which preceded tlie conclusion of the Treaty of 1824 hetwecu the United States and Russia, and the Treaty of 1^25 between Great Britain and Russia, had, so far as respects maritime jurisdiction, no reference whatever to the Behring's Sea, but only to the Pacific Oci-an south of the Aleutian Islands, and, therefore, that the United States' Government have not laid thomselvcs open to the charge of asserting rights in the Behring's Sea which they disputed as against Russia, before the cession of Alaska to the United States in 1807. While renudiating any claim to the Behring's Sea as a mare cinusum, Mr. Blaine insists that the claim of Russia to exclusive jurisdiction within 100 loiles from land was not disputed as regards the Behring's Sea, but, on the contrary, was acquiesced ia buth by Great Britain and the United States at the time of the Treaties above referred to, and that it is only since the rights of Russia in Alaska and the Behring's Sea passed to the United States by purchase in 1807 that Great Britain has sought to challenge right* vhicli siie respected when Alaska was a Russian province. i have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosurc iu No. 374'. Mr. Blaine to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Department of State, Washington, June 30, 1 890. ON the 6th instant you read to mo a despatch from Lord Salisbury, dated the 22nd Alay, and by his instruction you left with me a copy. His Lordship writes in answer to my despatch of the 22nd January last. At that time, writing to yourself touching the current contention between the Governments of the United States and Great Britain as to the jurisdiction of the former over the waters of the Behring's Sea, I made the following statement : — "The Government of the United States has no occasion and no desire to withdraw or modify the positions which it has at any time maintained against the claims of the Imperial Government of Russia. The United States will not withhold from any nation the privileges which it demanded for icsclf when Alaska was part of the Russian Empire. Kor is the Government of the United States disposed to exercise any less power or authority than it was willing to concede to the Imperial Government of Russia when its 8overei;;nty extended over the territory in question. The President is persuaded thiit all friendly nations will concede to the United States the same rights and privileges on the lands and in the waters of Alaska which the same friendly nations always conceded to the Empire of Russia." Ill answer to this declaration. Lord Salisbury contends that Mr. John Quiiicy Adams, when Secretary of State under President Monroe, protested against the juris- diclidn which Russia claimed over the waters of the Behring's Sea. To maintain this positinn his Lordship cites the words of a despatch of Mr. Adams, written on the 2'MA July, 1823, to Mr. Henry Middleton, at that time our Minister at St. Petersburgh. The alleged decL'mtions and admissions of Mr. Adams in that despatch have been the basis of all (he '.rguments which Her Alajcaty's Government have submitted against the ownership of cjrtain properties in the liohring's Sea which the Govoininent of the United States confidently assumes. I quote the portion of Lord Salisbury's argument which includes the quotation from Mr. Adams : — "After Russia, at the instance of the Russian American Fur Company, claimed in 1821 the pursuits of commerce, whaling, and fishing from Behring's Straits to the SUt degree ot north latitude, and not only prohibited all foreign vcs-els from landing on the coasts and islands of the above waters, but also prevented them from approacuing [128] 8 S I t^ \i i: II i 498 within 100 miles thereof, Mr. Quincy Adams wrote as follows to the United Slates' Minister in Russia : — " The United States can admit no part of these claims ; their right of navigation and fishing is perfect, and has been in constant exercise from the earliest times throughout the whole extent of the Southern Ocean, subject only (o the ordinary exceptions and exclusions of the territorial jurisdictions." j'he quotation which Lord Salisbury makes is unfortunately a most detective erroneous, and misleading one. 'i'he conclusion is separated from the premise, a comma is turned into a period, an important qualification as to time is entirely erased, willmm even a suggestion that it had ever formed part of the text, and out of eighty-four Honls logically and inseparably connected, thirty-five are droppe'! from Mr. Adams' paragraph in Lord Salisbury's 'quotation. No edition of Mr. Adams' work gives authority for his Lordship's quotation ; while the archives of this Department plainly disclose its many errors. I requote Lord Salisbury's version of what Mr. Adams sjtid, and in juxtaposition produce Mr. Adams' full text as he wrote it. , ■ /. ' {Lord Sulisburj/'s quotation from Mr. Adams.) " The United States can admit no part of these claims ; their right of navigation and fishing is perfect, and lias been in constant e::ercise from the earliest times, throughout the wiiole extent of the Southern Ocean, subject only to tiic ordinary exceptions and exclusions of the territorial jurisdictions." {Full text of Mr. Adams' paragraph.) " The United States can admit no part of these claims ; their right of navigation and of fishing is perfect, and has been in constant exercise from the earliest times, nfiej the peace of 17S3, throughout the whole extent of the Southern Ocean, subject only to the ordinary exceptions and exclusions of the territorial jnrisdictions, which, so fur as Russian rights arc concerned, arc confined to certain islands north of the .^blh detjm of latitude, and have no existence on the Continent of America." The words in italics are those which are left out of Mr. Adams' paragraph in the despatch of Lord Salisbury. They are precisely the words upon which the Government of the United States founds its argument in this case. Conclusions or inferences resting upon the paragraph, with the material parts of Mr. Adams' text emitted, are of course valueless. The first objeci is to ascertain the true meaning of Mr. Adams' words which were omitted by Lord Salisbury. "Uussian rights," said Mr. Adams, "are confined to certain islands nortii of the Diith degree of latitude." The islands referred to arc as easily recognized to-day as when Mr. Adams described their situation sixty-seven years ago. The best known among them, both under Kussian and American jurisdiction, are Sitka and Kadiak, but their whole number is great. If Mr. Adams literally inteiulcd to confine Kussian rights to those islands, all the discoveries of Vitus Jiehring and other great navigators are brushed away by one sweep of his pen, and a large ?:huplcr of history is but a fable. But Mr. Adams goes still further. Ho declares that "Russian rights have no existence on the (^ontinent of America." If we take the words of Mr. Adams with their literal meaning- there was no such thing as '• Kussian possessions in America," although forty-four years after Mr. Adams wrote these words the United States paid iiussia 7,*>00,0()0 dollars fcr these "possessions," and all the riglits of land and sea connected therewith. This consiructi(m of Mr. Adams' language cannot bo the true one. It woidd be absurd on its face. The title to that far nortliern territory was secure to Uussia as early as 1741 ; secure to her against the claims of all other nations; secure to her thirl v-scven years before Captain CooTc had sailed into the North Pacific ; secure to her more than half-a-century before the United States had made gojd her title to Oregon. Russia was in poiiit of time the first Power in this region by right of discovery. \Yitliout iininodcrate presumption she might have challenged the rights of others to assume territorial possessions, but no nation had shadow of cause or right to challenge her title to the vast region of land and water which, before Mr. Adains was Secretary of State, had become known as the " Russian possessions." . . . , •■ ; 490 Mr. Adams' mcaninj? was not, therefore, and indeed could not be, what Lord Salisbury assumed. As against such interpretation, I shall endeavour to call his Lord' ghjn'H attention to Avhat this Government holds to be the indis]mtablc meaning of Mr. Adams' entire paragraph. To that end a brief review of certain public transactions and a brief record of certain facts will be necessary. At tlie close of the year 1799 the Emperor Paul, by a Ukase, asserted the exclusive authority of Bussia over the territory from the Behring's Strait down to the "wtli degree of north latitude on the American coast, following westward "by the Aleutian, Kurile, and other islands," practically inclosing the Behring's Sea. To the Russian American Company, which was organized under this Ukase, the Emperor gave the liglit " to make new discoveries " in that almost unknown region, and " to occupy the ne>v land discovered " as " Russian possessions." The Emperor was assassinated bel'ore any new discoveries were announced ; but his successor, the Emperor Alexander I, inherited the ambition and the purpose of his father, and in a new Ukase of the 4th September, 1821, asserted the exclusive nuthority of Russia from liehring's Straits southward to tlie 51st degree of north latitude on the American coast, j)roelaiming bis authority at the same time on the Asiatic coast ns far south as tlie 4otii degree, and forbidding any vessel to approach within 100 miles of land on either continent. T quote the ttto sections of the Ukase that contain the order and the punishment : — "Section 1. The transaction of commerce and the pursuit of whaling and iisbing or any other industry on the islands in the harbours and inlets, and, in general, all along the north-western coast of America from Rehring's Strait to the 5 1 st parallel of northern latitude, and likewise on the Aleutian Islands and along the eastern const of Siberia and on the Kurile Islands, that is from Behring's Strait to the southern promontory of tho Island of Urup, viz., as far south as latitude 45° 50' north, are exclusively reserved to subjects of tho Russian Empire. "Section 2. Accordingly, no foreign vessel shall be allowed either to put to shore at any of the coasts and islands under Russian dominion, as specified in the ])receding section, or even to approach the same to within a distance of less than 100 Italian miles. Any vessel contravening this provision shall be subject to confiscation with her whole cargo." Against this larger claim of authority (viz., extending farther south on the American coast ti) the .'>lst degree of north latitude) Mr. Adnms vigorously protested. In a despatch of the 30th March, 1822, to M. Polelica, the Russian Minister at )Vasliington, Mr. Adams said : — " Tliis Ukase now for the first time extends the claim of Russia on the north-west coast of America to the 51st degree of north latitude." And lie pointed out to the lUissian Minister that the only foundation for the new pretension of Russia was tho existence of a small Settlement, situated, not on tlie American Continent, but on a small island in latitude 57° — Novo Archangelsk, now known as Sitka. Sir. Adams protested, not against the Ukase of Paul, but against the Ukase of Alexander ; not wholly against the Ukase of Alexander, but only against bis extended olaira of sovereignty southward on the continent to the 51st degree novth latitude. In short, Mi: Adams protested, not against the old possessions, but against the new preten- tions of Russia on the north-west coast of America — pretensions to territory claimed by ilie United States, and frequented by her mariners since the peace of 178-3, a si/ccifica- lioii of time which is dropped from Lord Salisbury's quotation from Mr. Adams, but ivliicli Mr. Adams pointedly used to fix the date when the power of the United States was visibly exercised on the coast of the Pacific Ocean. The names and phrases at that time in use to describe the geography inc'uded wiihin the area of this dispute are confusing, and, at certain points, apparently eontra- i Jietorv and irreconcilable. Mr. Adams' denial to Russia of the ownership of territory on the "Continent of America" is a fair illustration of this singular contradiction of names and places. In the same way the phrase " north-west coast " will be found, beyond all possible doubt, to have been used in two senses : one including the north-west coast of the Russian possessions, and one to describe the coast whose northern limit is the I liOth parallel of north latitude. It is very plain that Mr. Adams' phrase "the Continent of America," in his I reference to Russia's possessions, was used in a territoriiil sense, and not in a rfeographical sense; lie was drawing the distinction between the territory of "America" and the J territory of the "Russian possessions." Mr. Adams did not intend to assert that these territorial rights of Russia had no existence on the Continent of North America. He I meant that they did not exist as the Ukase of the Emperor Alexander had attempted to [128] 3 S 2 KOO estahliHh them, snutlnvArd of the Aleutian PcniiiHuIa, and on that disliiictive part of the continent claimed as tiie territory of tiiu United StatCH. " Amcricii " niul tlio " IJnJie^ StateH " were then, as they arc now, commonly used aa synonyinouf). Hritisli statesmen at tliat time used the phrase precisely os Mr. Adams did. The possessionH of tlie Crown were genericaily termed " BritiMJi America." (J rent llriinin and the UnitotI Stntcs linrmonizetl nt tliis point, and on this tenitorial issue, a.;uinMt Hm]^ ■NVhateviT disputes might be left by these negotiations for subsequent settleiueiit hi'twuin the two Powers, there can be no doi:' t thnt at that time they had a common niul very strong interest against tlie lorritorinl aggraKdizcinent of i{ussiii. The IJritisli u*c of the phrase is clearly seen in the Treaty betwct.i Great liritain and Russia tiegotiated in 1825 and referred to at length in a subsecpient |)ortion »»f this despatclj. A publicist n» eminent as Stratford Cunning ojiened the Illrd Article of that Treaty in these descriptive words : " The line of demarcation between the possessions of the High Contrnctinff Parties, upon the coasts of the continent, and the Islands of America to tiie iiorth-wc'.t." Mr. Onnning evidently distinguished "the islands of America" from " the isInmlHof the Russian possessions," which were far more numerous, and by the use of thephrivsc " to the iiorlli-wcst," just as evidently limited the coast of the continent as Mr. Adams limited it in that direction by the Alaskan Penin.sulu. A concurrence of opinion hctwctn John Quincy Adams and Stratford Canning touching any public question left little room even for suggestion by a third person. It will lie observed, ns having weighty significance, that the Russian ownership of the Aleutian and Kurile Islands (which border and close in the Behring's Sea, and h^ the dip of the peninsula are several degrees south of latitude 5.')°) was not disputed hy Mr. Adams, unil could not possibly have been referred to hy him when he was limitiii" the "island" possessions of Russia. This is but another evidence that Mr. Adams was making no question as to Russia's ownership of all territory bordering on the Hchrinir's Sci", 'ihe contest ]icrtained wholly to the territory on the north-west coast. The Emperor Paul's Uka.sc, including his sovereiarnty over the Aleutian and Kurile Islnnds, was never questioned or denied by any Power at any time. Many of the acts of Mr. Adams' public life received interesting commentary, and, wliere there was doubt, luminous interpretation in his personal diary, which was CHrd'tilly kept from the .'ird June, 1794, to the 1st January, 1848, inclusi.c. The present case affords a \)a\t\ty illustration of the corroborative strength of the diary. During the progress of this correspondence Raron Tuyl, who had succeeded M. I'oletica as Hussian Minister in Washington, called Uj'on Mr. Adams at his office, on the 17tii July, l!<:'3, six days before the date of the despatch upon which I have been commenting, and upon which Lord Salisbury relies for sustaining his contention in regard to the Rehring's Sia, Dnr'ng an animated conversation of nn hour or more between Mr. Adams and Itaron Tuyl, the former said : — ' I told Haron Tuyl specially that we should contest the right of Russia to any territorial establishment on this continent . . ." It will be observed that Mr. Adams uses the same phrase in his conversation that has misled English statesmen as to the true scope and meaning of his despntcli of the 2;'rd July, 18::3. AVhen lie declared that we should "contest the right of Russia to any territorial establishment on this continent " (with the word "any" italicized), he no more meant that wc should attempt to drive Russia from her ancient possessions tiian thtitwc should attem|)t to drive England from the ownership of Canada or Nova Scotia. Such talk would have been absurd gasconade, and Mr. Adams was the last man to iiululgein it. His true meaning, it will bo seen, comes out in the next sentence, when he declares : — " 1 told Baron Tuyl thnt we should assume distinctly the principle that the American continents are no longer subjects for any new European colonial establishments." In the Message of President Monroe to the next Congress (the eighteenth) at its h'rst Session, the Und December, 1^23, he announced that, at the proposal of the Russian Government, the United States had agreed to "arrange, by amicable negotiations, the respective rights and interests of the two nations on the north-west coast of this continent." A similar proposal bad been made by Russia to Great Britain, and had been likewise agreed to. The negotiations in both cases were to be at St. Petersburgh, It was in connection with this subject, and in the same paragraph, that President Monroe spoke thus : — " In the discussions to which this interest has given rise, and in the arrnngemenls by which they may terminate, the occasion has been judged proper for asserting, as » principle in which the rights and interests of the United States are involved, that Ike American Continents, by the free and independent condition which they have atsumed ani 501 maintain, are henceforth not to be contidered as lulijectt for Juture colonisation by any Euroiirnn Power." TliiH very brief dcclnration (in fuct, merely the tlirco lincN italicised) congtitutcn the ftmoiia "Monroe doctrine." Mr. AdnniH' words of the July precedin;; clearly tore- flhadoH'cd tliifl position as the |iernmncnt policy of the United Hlntes. The declaration removes the Inst doubt, if room for douut lind been left, that the reference made by Mr. 7\dnniH waH to the future, nnd had no poHHible connection with the HuHHinn rightH cxiHtinfj for ttiree-quarters of n century bet'oro the (lespntch of 182!) was written. It was cvi<icnt from the first that the determined attitude of the United HtatCH, subsequently supported by Great Hritnin, would prevent tho cxtcnHion of RuHsian territory southward to tho filst parallel. The 'Ireatics which were the result of the meeting at Ht. I'ctersburgh, already noted, marlced the surrender on tho part of UuHsia ol litis jtretension, nnd the conclusion was a joint Agret-ment that fiO" 40' should be taken ns tho extreme southern boundary of Uii'^Hia on the north-west coast instead of the 5i"ith degree which was proclaimed by tho Emperor Paul in tho Ukase of 1T0!>. The Tri'nty between Russia and tho United States wan concluded on the 17th A|iril, 1824, and that between Russia and Great Britain ten months Inter, on the lOth Feliruary, 182.7. In both Treaties Russia acknowledged 64° 40' ns the dividing line. It was not determined which «>f the two nations owned the territory from fii" 40' down to the 4!ith imrullel, and it remained in dispute between Great Britain and the United States until its final ttdjustmcnt by tho "Oregon Treaty " negotiated by Mr. Buchanan and Mr. I'nkenham under the Administration of Mr. Polk in 184tj. The Government of the United Slates has .steadily maintained that in r.^ither of these Treaties with Russia wns there any attempt at regulating or controlling or oven asserting an interest in the Russ'an possessions and the liehring's Sea which lie far to tlio north nnd west of the territory which formed the basis of the contention. This conclusion is indisputably proved by the Protocols which were signed during the progress of the negotiation. At the fourth co.iference of the Plenipotentiaries on the 9th March, 18J4, the American Minister, Mr. Ilenry Middleton, submitted to the Ratsian Rcprc- sentntive, Count Nesselrode, the following : — " The dominion cannot be acquired but by a real occupation and possession, and an intention ('animus ') to establish it is by no means sufficient." iNow, it is clear, occording to the facts established, that neither Russia nor any other Power has the right of dominion upon the Continent of America between the COth and (iOlli degrees of north latitude. Still less hns she the dominion of the adjacent maritime territory, or of the sea ffhich washes these coasts, a dominion which is only accessory to the territorial dominion. Therefore, she has not the right of exclusion or of admission on these coasts, nor in these sens, which are free seas. The right of navigating all the free seas belongs, by natural law, to every independent nation, and even constitutes an essential part of this independence. Tile United States have exercised navigation in the sens and commerce upon the coasts above mentioned from the time of their independence; and they have a perfect right to this navigation and to this commerce, and they can only be deprived of it by their own ict or a Convention. This is a clear proof of what is demonstrated in other ways, that the whole dispute between the United States and Russia, and between Great Britain and Russia, related to the north-west coast, as Mr. Middleton expresses it, between the "50th and the GOth degrees of north latitude." This .statement is in perfect harmony with Mr. Adams' parngrnph when given in fp'l " 'J'hc United States," Mr. Middleton insists, " have exercised navigation in the s :ind commerce upon the coasts above mentioned from the time of their indepcnileiicc ;" but he does not say one word in regard to our posse.ssing any rights of navigation or commerce in the Behring's Sea. He declares that Eus^ia has not the right of exclusion or admission on these coa>ts (between the 60th and the GOih degrees north latitude) nor in these seas, which are free seas, evidently emphasising " free " to distinguish those seas from the Behring's Sea, which was recognized as being under Russian restrictions. Mr. Middleton wisely and conclusively maintained that if Russia had no claim to tho continent betwe<m the 50th and COth degrees north latitude, " still less could she have the dominion of the adjacent maritime territory," or, to make it more specific, " of the sea which washes these coasts." That sea was the Great Ocean, or the South Seo, or the Pacific Ocean, the three names being equally used for the same thing. The language of Mr. Middleton plainly shows that the lines of latitude were useii i I i let Hin)|)l,v to iiuliaito tlio " iloininiiiu " on llu< coiinI i.lduioii llio .OOlIt iiiii] OOlli |mrnll(>|H of noiili liititiiilo. Till' iioportiinl doflariiliotm of Mr. Miiltllctou wliii'li iiiU'ipri'l ami (<iiroici< |||,. ronlrnlion of tlu< I'liiliMl Sliitos hlioiilil Ito rcuMiilod i\n iniliN|iuliilili- iiiillioiilv, rmiii Hk, t'lii'l lliul llicN nil' li\it u |iaruiihiiiN(< oldio iimliiu'lions ^liicli Nlc. <\(liiiiis dcliviMi'il |<i liim lor Ills aiiidmico in in'jtoliudti); (lio 'I'roftlv willi i'oiinl Ncsmdrodo. Hoond nil ihinlii, tliov prove tliiil Mr. .Xdmiis' nu'miiiin' wiis tlio nviTMo oF '.vliiit Lortl Siilishiiry inli-rN it, lo III' ill llio |mrii^iii|ili ol' wliicli lie i|iioli<d only ii purl. Tlio lour priiiiMpiil Arlii'li^ ot llir TioiiIn lu'^oliulrd Uy Mr. Middlilon mv ns I'olIouH! " .Vilii'lo I. It iM ii^rood (liiil in iiiiv purl ol' llio Cirriil Ofniii, coiiiiiiniilv riillnl |||,. I'lii'ilii' Oi'i'Hii or Smiili Hcii. llio roNpci'livo oi(i/oiiM or Hiilijorls ol' (ho Hi;;'!! (Siiihinlin;; I'oMors nIiiiII III' iioiliii'r iliHliiilud iioi n'slrninod. oillior in iiaviKnlioii or in liHliitiH, or j„ till' povNor III' I'l'Hoiliiiii' lo llio I'oiisl.vi, upon poinlH wliioii iiin) not iilri'iidy Iimvo Iioimi lU'i'iipii'd, lor till' piirpuso ol' Iriuiin^' uilli tho iiiilivi'M, Niiving iiIimi^vh llio rcslrirlions iind I'ouiliiions di'ti'rniint'd hy tlio lollowin^' Ailirli'H. '• .Vrlii'lo II. Willui. view of proM'tiliii;; llii' rif;lils ol' inivii;alion imd ol' li-liiiijr ovori'lsi'd iipmi iho <iri'al Oooaii liv llio oili/oiiM Mini hulijci'ls ol llio lli;{li Coiilini'liiii; Powors from lu'i'oiniii;;- llio protoNl lor an illii'it Irailo, it ii ii'.jroi'il llial. llio oilizi'iii ni till' I'liiloil Sliitos Nliall not rcMM't to iinv point wlicro llioro i^ a KiisMian oslaliiislniii'iil widimK llio porinissioii ol' (lie ( iovornor or ( 'oiiiiiuiiidor ; and liial. roriprocallv, the .'Milpji'ds of l»ii--sia --luiil not resort williont porinissiiin to anv ostaliliNlinioiil of llio I'nili'd Sliilus tipoii llio norlli-wosi ooaMl. ' Arlii'lo III. It is inoroovor iijjrood tiial, lu'ioiitlor, llicio . shall not ho roriiii'd hy llic oitizons of llio I'liiti'd Slati'H. or iiiidor tho iiiitlioiily of (ho said Slalos, any oHtnliiisli- iiUMil upon Iho iiorlli-wosi ooast of Aiiiorica, nor in aii,v of Iho islands inljai'onl, to llic iiorih of .')| -11) of north latiliido ; and that in the sanio luaunor llioro .shall he none foiinoii liy Kiissian siiliji'i'ls, or niiiU'r tho aulhoril) ol' l{ii.'*Miii, soiilli of Iho siinii- ]mrallol. •• Arlii'lo IV. It is. novortlu'loss, uiidorslond llml diiriiiftii lorin of Ion voars, couiiliiiu fioni llio siiiimliiro ol tlio prosoiil t'oiivontioii, tho ships of liolli I'owoih, or uhich lu'lini;,' to llioir oiti/onts or suIih'oIs re 'oelivelv. may roeiproeally lri'(|iiont. ivilhoiil, any liiiidranee whatever, the interio' is, ;4;iilfs, harltoiirs, and ereoks iipmi the ^•n^.\4 nioiitioiied in the preeedin^ Ar> >r the purpose of lisliin^' iiiul Inulin^ wilh ijic natives of the eoniilrv." The 1st Artiele, hy earot'ully inontioniiif; the (Irrnt Ormn, and deHerihiii;>- it as tin- oeeaii "eoinnionly ealled the I'aoilie Oeeaii or Sonfli Sea." ovideiilly ineaiiL to distiiia;iiisli it from some other liody of water with wliieli the iief;oliator.s did not wish to eonfnse it. Mr. Adams used the term"Soiilh Sea" in the despaleh qnoled liy Loni Salislmry, and used ii with the same diseriuiinatiiii'- knowledge (hat pi'ivades his wliolc ai:.juiiient on this iineslion. If no oilier hody of water existed within the possihle seopc o[' the Treaty, siieli pa-.tieiilnrity of desi-ription would liave had no lo^jical ineaiiiiii;'. Hut there was aiiollier hody of water already known as the Heiirin;j:'s Sea. 'I'lial name was (irst uiiven to it in IM7, tieeordinj;- to l';n,i;lisli antliority, seven years hefore the Aiuerioiui Treaty, and eight years hel'oro the Hrilisli Treaty with Unssia ; lint it had lieoii known a.s a .vTd, separate from the ocean, under the nanios of the Si-a of Kmnteliatka, tlii^ Sea of t)tters, or the Aleutian Sea, at ditlereiii jierioils lieforo the l-'iinperor l*aul issued his Ukase of 17!)'.). The iInd .Vrtiele plainly shows thai the Treaty is limited lo the (ircat Oeeaii. as separate from Hehrinfi's Sea, heeanse the liiuilalion of the " north-wost eoast " ln'twion the oDili and (idth de;>'rees eouid apply lo no other. That eoast, us dotiued hoth hy Ameriean and IJrilish iie,«,'otiators at that time, did not holder on tho Behriiij^'s Sea. The II lid .Vrtiele shows the eompromise as to territorial sovcreifinty on the iiorlh- wesl eoast. The Uiiiled States and Great Hritain had hoth elaimed that IJussia's just boundary on the eoast termiiiateil at the (iOth dei;ree north latitude, the sontliern honler of the Aleutian IVninsula. Unssia elaimed to the olst parallel. They made ii eompromise by a nearly eipial division. An e.xaetly e(|ual ilivisiou would have nivoii Russia ot° ',W ; but 1(» miles farther north, Prinee of Wales' Island, iiro.seiited a heller jioojiniphieal poiut for division, and lUissia accepted a, little less than half tho coast of which siie had olaimcd all, and 51' W was thus established as the diviilius point. Tho lYth Article of tho Treaty necessarily grew out of the claims of Russia to a share of the north-west eoa.st in dispute between the United States and Great Britain. Mr. Adams, in the instruction to Mr. Middleton so often referred to, says: — ,,,, . , "My III)' Mini Ai'licit' nl' llii< ('oMvciiliiin lii'hvccti llic Hiiili'd Stntos niiil Orcnl llriliiin "I' •!"' -"•li nclnln'r, |S|M, i| wiin M;iri'iMl Hint iiiiy (■Diiiilrv lliiil iiiiulil. lie cliinnnil liy cillicr pnil.V on the iiiiiIIi-wi'hI (•(Hist iii' Ainrricn, wcshviud of llii> Slmiy MoiinliiiiiH, sliiiiilii. iDRt'lli'T "illi \\h linrliiiiiiM, IrnvM, niiil rrccks, ami llic iiitnunlioii ol nil livcrM witliin IIk' '4IIIIH'. Iii< I'lci' Mini ii|M<ii. I'oi lilt' liM'in of ten vi'mih rniiii llml ilnlo, (o the vcsMcIt, citiiri'ii^, mill HiilijcrlM nl' the Iwo I'owtTM, vvillioiil |MVJiiili('o lo tlu! rliiiiiiM ol' i-iliuT |iiiily or nrniiv hIIkt HIhIc. " Yiiiiiiii'iMitliiiri/t'il (opropoHO nil Arlii'io ol' llio hiuiiv piii'iiorl torn Icrin of Icii yi'iiiH I'riiiii llii' '^iV.iiiilili'o III' II JoiiilCiiiivciiliiiti lirttvi'iMi IIm> I'liilril S|iiU>-4, (iii'iil, lliilaiii, iiiiii llll-'.iM." h "ill III' oliMcivi'il Mini till" l\'(li Ailicic rcliilt-K hoIiIv lo (he " iimlli wcsl cimhI oi' Aniciii'ii," si( well uiiilriHlooil iih tlic cdiihI uI' I Ii(< I'lirilic ( )(•> nil lictwccn ilio.idlli iiiiil llic iHUli (Ic^i'ci'M iiorlli Inliltiilc, niiil, (ll«>l(>torl^ tlouN iiol in lliu n>iiiol«>Hl lic^ri'i! Iiiiii-li I ho jli'liiiiiu''^ i^i'ii or tlir Iniiil iMii'ili'i'inM; npnti il, Till" ki'vcimI Arlirlrs in (lif 'rimly Itchvi'cii (liniil. Iliilniiinnil KiiMnin, IMIi Kfbninry, |8L'>'i, ll'< I I'iMilil have iiiiy ln'iii in^; on the pctiiliii); coiiliMilioii nrr hh IoIIimv,. : - Ailii'li'H I anil II. (Stilislnnliiiliy Uio Niiini^ im in llir 'I'linly licltvci-n Uiis^iii niiil (ill' liiiili'il Sinlcs.) ".\rli('l(< III. TIk* line of ili-iiinrcntion lirltNccii Uin poHirHsioir. oi' llir llit^li (Idiiliacliii;;' I'aiiii'M, iipini lli«^ ('(m''t oi' Uic rDnliiiiMil, uml llic iHlan<ls oi' Aiin'ticii lo Uic iKirlli-Hi'nl, hIhiII lie ilrawii ::• lli<> Mvinncr rollowiii;; : — 'M'ointncncin^ liotii the Honllicriiniost. point of iJic jhIiiikI (!iiIIciI I'lincr of HnlrH jhIiiuiI. "liii'li lioint licH in (Jic painllcl of 54' '10' norlli Intilinlc, ntnl lictwccn the |:HHt. iinii till' t-'l-'li'il (lc^^cc of wchI Ioii^jIimIc (ini'i-iilinii of (irci^nwii'lii, the Haiil lii i' mIiiiII jiHCi'iiil lo llin iioilli, nioii;;' tlii! ehniinci ciilleil I'ltilltinil ('hninirl aH far ns tlic poiiil. <t\ Ihc (Miiiliiieiil where il Mtrike.s llie rililii ile;i;''c«< of north Intiliiilt! ; from thlH hettr-mciitiomMl |i()iiil Ihi' line of ilemnri'iilioii .shall follow lh(< Hiiinmil. of llie iiioiinlniii:^ silualcil paiallcl id llie coast, as far aH llie piling of inlerscefiiui of the ItlHlr ilc<ri'ee of west loii^rjiii,!,. ,,,|' the same nieriilian) ; ami, linally, Ircnn the itaiil poinl of inter.seclion the snid miriilian jiiiuoftlie I list i!c;;ree, in ilH pioloii;ratiiin aH far as the I'Vo/eii Ocenii, hIhiII form the liiiiil lielwn < I he UiiHHian ninl llriliHli puHHCKMioim on the: <!oiitineiit of America to I lie iiorlli-Hcsl. Aiiicle \', (Siih»liinlially the kiuik! ns Article ill of the Treaty hetucen Uiissia iinil Ihe I'nitcil StuleH.) " Article! VI. Il Ih nmlciKtooil that tiie HiihjcctH of HIh Ihitannic .Majesty, from ttimlever i|iiiirler I hey may arrive, whether from the ocean or from Ihe inli'rior of the iKiiiliiienI, shall for ever enjoy the ri;rht of navi^ntin^ fri;ely, anil without any liiiiilnuice wliiilever, all the rivcis nml HtrcnniH wliirii, in their <rour.se townnls tin; I'acilie Ocean, may cross tho line of diMnarcation upon the line of const ilcHitrihed in Arlicle III of the present ('onveiition. " ,\ilich! N'll. It in also underHtood that, for the space of leu yearn from llio signature of the present t'onvenlion, tlu! vessids of tlii! two I'owim's, or those heloiiL'ing lo llieir ri'sju'clive siihjects, .shall mutually Ik; at lil)erly to freipn'iil, without any liiiiiii'Miice wlial(!ver, nil the inland sinis, the kuII'h, havens, and creeks on the co.ist muiilioued in Article III, for the pur|iose of lishin;^ and of Iraiiiii;; with the natives." After the aii'ilysis of the .Articles in the ;\in(ui('an Treaty there is little in the Knu'lisii Treaty that reipiires explanation. The two 'i'reatics were drafted ninhir circum- stiiiii'cs anil lillctl lo condiiions (piile similar. 'I'licre were some (lill'ercnees hi.caii.sc lit' (iii'iit llritain's ownership of Uiitish AnuTica. Ihit these very dill'ercnces corrohorito tlic |iosilii)n of tin; United States. This is most jilainly sc'cn in Articli; VI. ISy that Arlicle Hie suhjecis of Her Mritannic Majesty were f;iiarant(;ed lIn; ri^ht of niivi;4aliiif^ i'reely the rivers emptyin;; into the l'ai;ilie Ocean and crossing the liiw nf ilvinarciitlnn uimii tlir line of roast ilrsrrilird in Arlirli- III. Tin; lint; of demiircalion is ilesirriheii in Arlit'le III as following; " the HUinmit of the mountains situated pnralhd to the coast, IIS Jiir ii.s ll.c j)i)inl of ill! CISC ('lion of llic I ll.v/ dumci: (f wi'st liiiiijiiudr." .Article IV, iliialiiyiiii;' Artude lllj specifies that "wherever the snuimit of tlie mountains wiii(!h e.\t(!ml in a direction parallel to the coast, from the 5(5tli defjrec of iiorUi latitude to the point of interst.'ctioii of the Mist deforce of west lonf^iliide, shall prove to he at a distnnce of more than 10 marine leagues from the ocean, the limit helween tin; British po.ssessioim 'Mu\ tlic line of coast whicli is to heloiig' to Rtmsia. •.:^ ahove nieiiti()iu;d, shall he formed liy a line parallel to the windings of the coast, and shall never exceed the distance of 10 marine leagues therefrom." Hy hotli these Articles the line of demarcation ceases to have any parallel relation to the coast when it reaches the point of intersection of the 14 1st degree of weat -•Id toii((Hiul«>, Kintii <lini (toiiit (lio HIM iIo^iim' hI* ut<fll IniiKiliiili', im iiir in II, cxiondi, i-otiiiitiioimly on Iniul noilliwiuil, U (itlton nn llit> ItiMiiitliirv IioIwimmi IIio (oiiilotifq hI Hi,, 'rwit INi\M>i'N. It iq \\\»^ oviiloiil (lint llrilisli niiIiJi'iMh worn ffiiiiiiiiilct'il llio liuli). „| nnviwHtiii^ only hiu'Ii livi'n mm ('iifHiMl tlu> IImi* oriliMUiut'Ulliiii ir/ii/f »V J))lh>u'i>tl llir liui' „i i-Msl. 'I'liov ««'H> limiti'il, tliiMoron'. to t'u» livoi-n Hint t'iii|illi'il liilii llio Pncillr 0|i,i|,|, liot«i'«>i> rtl'* 40 mill (10' iiiiiili liitlliiilo, tln« liilti'i lll•ill^ Ilio iioiiil <mi l!it« ci'iimI i>|i|Mmjlo till' |iiiii\t wlioro tlu» lino iifilcnimi'iiHuii iIIvoijii'm, MkiiiiI Hi. lillin". n.v lliiH AniiMMiiiMit (JitMil niititlii wni I'Si'liiili'il IViiiii nil rivors i>niiilviii!', iiiln ||||> Mi'liiiii^'R Mt'ii, iiit'liiiliii^ llit> (Jii'iil ViiKdii iiml iln nllliii'til llii< Piiii'iipiiio, wliirli imi>, mimI lor n iiMiH iliMlnnco (inw. in niili«li Aninirn. Ho ('(iiii|ili'li' \\i\» llii> CM-Iimiiiii rinin Uoliiin^'H Son (linl (JionI Mrilnin Hinroiuloroil in lliin ohho a diMliiiio iijiirli mIk" lim, rtii!o(l i,i i\n|iiO'<«insi upon llio t 'oii'^ioqw nl' N'ionnn I'm- I'linoiionii livoin. Mlio iljil imi iloinnml mooohm Io llio won IVoiii n nvor wlnmo homioo wiih in lior loriilorv. Mlio ooiiiJi'iiliMl, l\v Nifji'iim llio 'IVonlv ol IS'N'>, ((I •niol> (otnl ovolimion lioni llio Miliiiiifi'H Hon mm In linogo iollo«in,y hot oimi liioi to il'< inonlli in llint ^on, ll hIw^h n oniioiiM iiw^ooinliini of polilioiil ovoiiIh Hint in llio \Vn«liiii>>:ltin Tionh nf I .1 >ji..i , I...1 i.. «i 1 II.. !...!.. ll :..:i I' !....il...., ll... \-..i II NIIIMIM II rill IIMIN If^MIM'llll inil III I'IMIIII III I'llMIIH IIII1I III I III" II IINIIIM^IIIII | II'IIM U IMTJ llio I'liiloil SinloM oonooiloil In (Jionl lliilniii llio (iiivilo^o nl' iiiiviyiilliin llii> Viiluu nnd ilH Iniinoli llio l'oroii|niio (n tlio lloliriiiji's Hon in oxoliniifio Ini ooilniii piiillcm. oonooiloil (ll llio I'liiloil Hinloi on llio SI. Iiimmoiioo. 'I'Iio ioi|noH| nl' (lioni lliilnln In llio |iii\ilif>o ol' iiiiviontiiifi llio YiiKoii nnd llio riiioii|iino in ii hiih^iohIIvo onnr-HMiiin llm ii ,>.>u .> iili)...l.t ('>.>■.. l..,i. I,. i> ;,. :.. ll... '1'....,.!.. ..r luo-i .. :ii.l..il,l !....>.. , ii... ,:. nil III lull 1 in I 'I I » III f; I- 111 nil I ij^in iiiv i iiv i iii\iiii iinii i nr i in i-ii|iiin' im n mii^;^i-ni 1 1 1- iniii ■•hhmiii IMH il rtns williholit I'loiii lioi' \\\ Unvsin in llio 'I'loiilv ol' IM!!.^. williliolil lii'onii«o llii> ilvi'i do « Oil (o (iio Holninii'N Son. llio \lllli ,\i(iolo iM |iinolionll,v a lopolilion of llio IVlli Viliolo in IIm- TmhIv lv,>l\voon Kiissia ami llio I'niiod Slnlon, niiit (lio jiiivilofio ol' liHliinn ninl (rMiliiiii niili |||',. iin(i\OH '<« liiiiiloil III llio ooiisl nioiiliiinoil in Ailiolo III, iiloiilii nllv llio Nniiio lino nl iMnmj Mliioli til-'" "■■>'■ "' i:i.--<>' •.• ' ll.- I- <.• • I- ii.:ii..i. i ! I. I. ll ll ll liioli (liov «oio III lilioilv 111 pii-iH (linniitli (o lonoli UiiliMli \iiii'iion oi li romii llio cdimi oni Uiilixli .ViiiiMion 'I'liov nio ovi'linloi! I'lom jjuiny iinilli nl' llio inoMoiilioil |iiiiiil nn lio oonsi iioni Moniil St. Mii'm. ami nio llioiol'ino ii- , i mil ol i'.olniii}! '< Moa, It is to lio iiotoil llinl llio nofiolinloiM li llii° 'IVonlv iii ilolliiiini llio lniiii)ilni-y liotwoon llio IJimiiiin nin! Hiiii-j|i |niMMo><Mioin ooiihi> to hIihiivo |ini(ii'iiliiiliv omwHv 111 llio (iiiint till tlio oonst mIioio il in inloisooloil liv llio iliMli |iiii'iillol. '.''I'liiii iliiil puinl tlio lioiniilarv i-* iloxifiiintoil l>v llio iiliinwl imioliiiilo pioloiifiiiliiiii norllnviiKl nl Iln I list ilojvroo ol' loiijjitiiilo \\^'•<^. ll Im plain, llioiolorc. Iliiil lliiH 'IVonlv, liKo llio Itimmi. \nionoiiii Tii-nlx. liniiliil tlio " iioidi-nosl ooiimI " to lliiil pnit of llu' omul Im>Iv.oi'|i llir .M<lli ainl ilOdi piir.'illolN o[' iimlli lnl'',i!i'". iim I'iiIIv hi' Inilli liv 'I'r. Miilillilnn in llic Pi oIoooIm pioooilniji llio 'IVonlv liotiioon llio I'liiloil Sin I't niul Uii4-:ir,. 'I'lio lufMilininiH 110X01 lou.lioil Oiw loot ol' ''■•' '■ ' ' ''■ • <'■"••"■•■■ " >■■•'• : ' • ivllllil, illlli iiiiiii I'l'iiMM'ii iiiv I'lUM'ii »^in I'M Mini nii'^^"j. iininf^niiinniN ll' llio Imninlniv ol llio Holiiiiiji'' Son, iiliollior oii oonlini'iil m ,-,11,,,, .,.,,, novoi- ovon iiii>ilo n lol'oionoo lo il, ll'-i iionr'"-! pniiil in ItiiMlnl lliiv iviin t,".*<>0 iiiilo^ ilixtiiiit I'loiii llio lii'lil i>l'iio<.',oliiiliini Ih-Imooii llio I'linoM. ll nuis( lot lio riii<;niloii tlint llii'< oiitiio iiojvoliiiiion ol' llio llnoo I'owrrn pioii clnl Willi lull Kiio«lo(l>;o niiil loi'ojiiiitiiin ol'llio lUuiso nl' I.S'JI, Wliilo all ipioMlioiw iniirliiiiK tlio lospoolivo lii-.lils ol llio i'oMoiM on llio iiorlli woxl ooiol Ih'Imooii llio riillli iiml iiiH lin- I !•> jtii I 1 1 !■ ii;;in:^ I'l liu' I imii'im imi ini' lliMUl III"*! llMl'-l ni-|»iii-n mm- h»m,i mimi mi )virallols woio ilisoii'i--oi| miiI piossi'il In oiio hIiIo oi iIio ollior. iiiiil lliiiilly ii;',iooil iijn iliO toi'iiw of llio I'Kn-., ol" l^^'JI, ill iiliioli llio Miiiporor sol I'lnlli ho riciiilv llio ri»lin olniiiioil illlli ONOioi'Oil l\v liii^sin in |li,< Uoliviiijv",) Son. wimo iiiiliniolioil ciiil iiiiipioiilioiii'il Tlio»o vijj'-.ts woro tlioiororo ailiiMlloil liv nil llio IVnvois iio};o(iMiiii!>' h< wiiliin jjio ,. ,.,:..., .,«' i> ;..•.. 1.. 1 1. ...;,.. ll.! 1 ll... I. .11 ;....:..l..i.. i.., i,'....i i lO'llllUl ov. loiso of ({iissiti's liuiliil iiiilli.uil V llioii. iiinl lliov wni- I'-ll iiiviolnit ilililli!:' !lU tiio Mlli-oiploiil oniiliiiiiiuu o i>r l\iis>.iii's (Iniiiiiiinii ov'i' Alii'^kii i lioso Tioal. ". iioio lliorotoio n piiiolionl roiiiinoinliiiii, liolli nn llir pnil nl' rii;;l]iii(l ,»n>l \\\k ruilOii Sl.uos, of niiv ii>;lils ir. tin' wiilors of Ho1iiiiij;'s Sea. (iiii'inu,' llio poiioil nf Knsvia's sovoiviiinlv. Tliov loll, llio lioliriii;,''^ Son, aiiil all itn ooiihIm iiikI iHlmidH, prooi^olv a-i (lio I'kaso k\\' .Vlo\ninloi' m ISJl lofi tlioiii lliiil !-<, iviili llio pmliiliilii'ii ;i;:.r,iist any vos>ol ;ippiiinoliiin< nonroi to tlu' oonst tluiii imi llnliiin iiiiiiw iimlor iIiingT ot ooiili^iMlioii, 'Tlio oiijiinnl I'knso of ,\lo\iiiiilor of IS:,'i olninii'd an fnr miiiIIi n.s t.ic .'lis! iloan'O of nnvdi I.Uiliulo, uith l!io inliiliilion nl' 100 niilo^' I'roiii llio ooiimI npp'yin^ to o II n llio losull of tlio protost of Mr. Vihnii--. foHoivod liy llio oiMipoinlioti ol tiroiit l^rifain, was to I'oioo Kiissin Iciolv l>i .'it Id as licr soiidioiii lioiiinliii'y. Hiil llioio mis no roininoi.uio., ulmiovor on tlio purl ol' K'ssiii as In llio Uoliriiiji's Son, In wliioli llio TLasc o^poi'ialiv aiiil priiii:iril_v applioil. As piooo tif iciiisljilioii tliis Ukiiso ivns iis Miiliinri- t->.nv,- ii; tlio lioniiiiions of Ku^-in n,-; ;iii .Vet of Pailiainoiil is in tlio iloiniiiinns of (imil niitain or any Aoi of (.Vnijjross in tlio loriitnry of tlio I'liiloil Sialos, Ixoopt as vohiv.tnrily mmiitiod hy Hii'-sin in tlio 'I'lonly willi llio Uiiiloil Slili'S iTth April. I5'.M. and in "tlio Tivntx ixiiii (Jro,>l Urilnin. KllliFoliriinry, l'<'-'.', llio I'iinM- rofi i,|'|M2l hIooiI iih III!' Iiuv I'liiilinllJiiir ||it< KimHiiiti iiiiHHnnHioiiH in AiiM't'li'it iiriUI IJm< cIuhc of lliinniii'" owin'mliip \<y 'kmimIi'I In iIiIm (Jnvt'innu'lit. lloUi Uh' Unilcd Htitli'M itrid <ln'ii., |liiliiiiMri'ii(iiii/',('il il, ii'iipi'di'il il., iilicy/'d il. Il ilii! iMtl, MK Nil iiiiiiiv Mii|i|i(i'i(>, ili'i'liirn ||ll< |l('lMill(i''' Hi'M (o III' iiiilli' iliilfilllil. \\. llill lIl'CJMIf lilM.I IIm' WMI'TH, III till' I'xirill. (iC lOOmili'i iViitii IIm' "^linirH, Hi'ii' ii'Hi'ivi'il lor llu' niiIiii- ■ " nl' IIh- Kii^Hiim Kiiniiiriv Ol' iiiHiii'. iiiiHiv immlii'd iiiiji") I'lisl Mild tvi>«l umiI iiiiiIIi miiiI "ipiiIIi wmi- Him-; ii(liiili<'"'Hlly lili In Kii'^'jiM li'i III!' nliiili' ll^liri.v, mid I'lii' llHhiiifii npr'H iinil lici' In llii' world, of .fliirli iillii'i Miilii'iiM loolt liii^i' iidviiiiliiiii'. i'i'rliii|PH, ill |iiiimrnit< IIi'm iidviinlMifi'. rotcifrnurM did i,ol iiliviivM lii'i'|i I'ld iiiili'M rmiii llii' mIiiiii> ; lull. Ilio lli(>ory ol' linlil, on wliicli llicy I'lilidlli'li'd llii'ii liiisiliCHH iiiiiiioIi'hIi'iI wmm tliiil lln>)' oliM'ivi-d lie condilioiH ol' llii< llitii'"'. jliil Ilii' MHi mill' ii'Nitii'lloii |M<iroiiiii>d llio rniii'lioii I'or whiili il. wim H|i<'i'lallv iji'itiuiii'il '" jiii'viMiliiii', liiiri(jiii iiiilioim I'loiii iiiolf-diii^. 'liMl.iiiliirifr, or liy iiiiy iioHMiliility tiiiiiiii;; ill III'" I'll' liiiiti'. 'I'Im' I'm Inido lormi'd llic |iriiici|iiil, nlmo'il llii« sole, ciniiloy- iiii'iil ol' IIm' llilHHiiiii Amriicim ( 'oiii|iiiiiy, il loiiird ih i>iii|iloym('iil, indeed, lo wiieli n. ijcjrri'i' Mini 11. H001I lici'Miiie liiiotvii only iim llu> IliiMHinii Aineriinii /''»( <'oni|)nny, <ind iHiile HiinncMlively lliiil niiiiie Im /riven lo Hi" ('iitii|iitny liy l/ord KiiliMlniry in Mie deN|i«teli liMvliii'li I mil ri'|)lyiii^. Wliile, Hieii'lore, lliere iiniy Iimv(< lieen ii, IrirjM' irinoiinl, ol' liiwfiil wliiiliiifi mid llHliiii» in lln' lii'liiiiii',''< Hen, Hie Inliini^ ol' I'mu liy I'oi ei^iier« wim llhvilV«mid l.lldei ii!l eiirmiiMlniieeM illicil, l'rii;li(ren yeiiiH nllei ilie 'IVeiily ol' [''•'Mt (in I ^ )'>)') i< ill. ISiiliiiii miide m * 'ommereiiil Tri'iilv willi iltiMMiii liimeil on Hie |irinei|ile ol' recipioeily ol' iidviinl.'itfeM, Inil. Hie riylil.i ol' llio KiiMHimi Aineriemi ('om|i.iiiy, whii li under liolli {'kii^cH incliided Hie •^overeifrnly over llic iii'il In Hie e\leii( of |(ll( inilr: rioiii (lie Hlioien, were reMCived l»y H|ieei(il limine in ii iii'|ilirnle Mild Mpeeiiil ,\l(ie|i' fiiiiiii'd iil'lei Hie piinciplll AllieleHcl' Hie 'rreiily lilld lieeii rniiclinleil mid nijined AlHionj^li I'lili'tli riiflii^i were enlnrtred wilh neiirly nil oilier pnrtv. of llie KiiH.Mimi I'linpiie. lui nliiiioiiM willi Hie ilii^Kimi poHniwHioiei find vvilli Hie \uA\r'\u<^' i Si'lUi'inilined ill pieeinely lie- iiiiie piiilil wli're the Treiily of I ••'<}.•■> Iiiid pliiceil tliem. A^iiin, ill iHTi!!, Oieiil lliiliiiii iilill Imllier eniiMKed liei coniioerr'Ki.l reliilion^ willi lIlC rilllpei el III' illl-'^iil, mid iiiOlin Hie ' po^!e^^illn'l " luid Hie I'lilii iii[f'r< Hill, vveie held liniily ill llirir lelnlioim lo Hie llieisinii Aiir-ricmi <'ompmiy n-i Ihey lind heen held in Her Truiiy ol' ini:'. II Im eMjieciiilly miliililit Hiiil., Iiol.li in Hie 'I'leiily of I '.4.'! mid Ilie TrenLy i,\' |Mr«!), \\, in ilri'lnred ihiil " in reirmd lo coinineree niid niiyij^Mlion in Ihe litm.iiiin poHSfM-iiorm nil Ihe norlli-wenl eme-il id' AiiieiicM. Hie Cotivenlion eoneliided iit. f',|.. I'eter-ihiirijh, li'hli l'"eliiiimv, |H',;/'i, iiliiill eiiiilimie in I'oii;!'." The i<,inie diMliii'(i";i iind Hie .-iiime rcsliiclioim n liieli Mr. .\d(iiiei niiide in reffiird lo Hie noilhwe^^l coii-tl, <,!' Anierien. were '.iijl (ilwervnl, itinl 'Jrenl. i'liiliiin'H ii.ei'eHM I'rom or lo Ilie interior ol' the eonl.inenf. wim -ilill limitiMl to Iliiil pint ol' Hie eoied, hel.ueen /> I ' 10' mid H point, nem .Vloiinl. Hi. l'"/li(m. 'I'Ik' Iniiiiniiiri' ol' Hie lliree '(iiKso-MiiliMli Trent iei; ol' \WJ,U, i'<'|.">, (Hid IHft!) (!oire<ponrr-( wil.h llinl ciiijihived in Mr. Admii.4' di -.pnleh lo Mi. Middi'ton to which refereri'e hns m(» liri|iii'iillv 1 II miide, Thii kIioivk Hint the trne nienniiiK ol' Mr. Adnrn.H' [inrnvrnph ii Ilic key, mid indeid the only liey, hy whieh Hie Tre(il.ie« enn In- eorrecHy interjireted, mill liy wliiidi expreii^imn Mppnienlly eonlrn.di(rl.ory or nninlelli|/ihl(! can he rendily ii,:rin(iiii/i'il liiiiii"dinlely lolhevint.', the pnrtini rpii)l.(i.|.ii,n ol' Mr. Admni' despnlcli, fiord Hfili.'ihiiry i|iiiili"< Ilie ciine ol' ihe I'liitcd Hinle-i' hii[^ " lioriot. " im iDiviriii; •<ome hejiririi^ on t.fie, i|ii('slioii reliiliim lo the liehiin^'fi Hen. 'I'lie cmte happened on l.he lot.h H«; pie rn tier, M-'i'i, mill Ml. l''oiHylli, Serretnry ol' Hinte, in a deijiateh l.o the l.'niled HUiten' Minister nt, SI. I'i'lei'<liiif|i, deelnred Ihe eoiirHe ol' llio MiiHHiariH in arresting the vennel Ut he a viiilalioii of 111' rifrhlH ol' Hie eili/eim ol' t.lie l/iiited HtateM , he idnirned that Hie eii.i/e.n.t III' till' I Ilii!' d Hlati'H lind the rioiii. irntrieriiorinlly, hH w<!ll ah hy the Htipulatiorm of the Troiily ol' :H21, lo rmh in tlioHe waterH. Lord Hnlinhniy'n mideiKlnndiiij^ of the. caHe differs entirely from that hehl hy the (liivcriiinent of the United Hinte.i. The " Ijoriot" was not arretted in the F^:hrinJ('^ Hea nt nil, nor wu.h mIic entrn;;ed in Inkinj; I'lirH. Hhe wan arrentf-d, n^ .\Ir. Fornyth in his ii('s|iiilch Hiiyn, in Inlilnd" ol," hh', more, tlmn f!') n:ile« Month of Sitka, on the. " norr.h-weHt cdii.hI," III which, and to ssliicli only, the Tn-nty of IH'JI relerrcd. liiissia upheld it^ action on Hie jfioiind Hint the ten-year term provided in the IVth y\rticle 'if the Treaty lilld clo'<ed two yenrn hefnnr. The cftHe was made the hnsin of an application on th., [Kirt of Ihe United Hiales' (Jovernment for a renewal of that Article, This applicatirm WHS pi('s.se(l for Hcvernl yearn, hut linally and ahHolutoly refiined hy the Itu.sHian Govern- ment. Under the eiaiiii of UuHHia tiiat tlie t<rrn of ten year.s had expired, the (,'nited HliilcH failed to sciuiro any rcdi'css in the " lioriot" caHC. VVith all due rcsjH;ct to Lord (1281 3 X i V- u S : S.ilisltiirv's jinlfrmonl, (ho onao of Oio " lioriol " suMliiiiiH tlu' oniii'P cotrndnoHs nf i)i,. |ii)«ilit>n .>r (h(> Uiii(otl Sdilos in this conliMidoii. It only roinnins to saj that wlmlrvi'V thity (Ircat RiKain owed to Aliishn im „ Unssiiin piDvinro, whulovor siic iifi;roiMl (o Oo, or to rolViiin IVoin (h>in;>', (oiicliint; Alnsliji iuui llio Itchrinfi's Son, wns not oliiuifjcd hy the nicrc liiot of" (lio (tHnst'or of sov('i('iM;iiiv (o (he Unilod 8(a(oM, It was ('Xj)h(<it|v ilodaroil in tlio Vlth Aiticlf of llic '{'rcnty In wliioh I lie ((Miitory was cimUmI hy WnsHia. (liat "tlio ccHsion horchy inaiU; convoys nil tjic rinlifs. IVanchisos, and priviloftvs now hcloiifjinj;' to Unstsia in the said (cnildiy m dominions, and aiijHnlonancoH tlieivto." Noilhor hy tiio 'rivuty with Uussia of IMJA, nnr h) its ronowal in 0*4'^, nor hy its second renewal in iHrtU, did (Ircat Hritain kiiIii nny riglit to (akc seals in liclirins's Sea. In fa(!t, those Treaties were a prohibition n|HMi lni which she steadily respected no lon<^ as Alaska was a UuMsiaii luovince. It is for Ureal Mrilain now lo show In- what law she fiained ri};hls in that sea after the traiiHi'er of iK soverei^'nlv to the I'niled States. l1nri'.if>' all the time elajtsin^;- helween the Treaty of 1H"J& ami the cession ol Aliiska to (h(> United States in I8((7. (ireat Ihitaiii never allirmed the rijrlit of her suIijccIh id oaptnre fnr-seal in (he lU>hring's Sea; ami, as a matter of fact, her suhjectH did iidl dmin;^- thai long jjcriod attempt to catch seals in the nehring's Sea. Lord SaliNliiiiy, in repl.^iiiju- to my assertion (hat these lawless intrnsions iipmi the I'nr-scal lishe'-ies iM'i^.'m in lS8(i. declares I hat they had occnrred hefore, lie i»ointH (mt one a((omp( in 1M70j|| which forty-seven skins uere fonnd on hoa>d an intrndintf vessel ; in IH/U there wiisn rumour that espodilions were alauit to lit out in A\isiralia and Victoria for (he piirpnH- of (akiii;;- seal in (he Hehring's Sea ; in IS74 Home roi)or(s were heard (hat vessels Imil en(er(-d the sea for that purpose ; one east> was repor(ed in lH7r>, (wo cases in ISS|,, («„ also in IfH.'V. These cases, I nniy say, without intendin;^ disrespect (o his Ijordship, piovc tin' truth of the statenient which he endeavours to controvert; hecausc they form jiim a sutlicicnt nnndier of exceptions ti. estnhlish the fact that the destructive in'rusion lic^'iin in JSsii. Ihit I refer to them now for the purjtose of showing that his Lordsliip dni's not attempt to cite the intrusion of a single Hridsii sealer in(o tlu' Heli.ing's Sea imlil after .Alaska had heeii (ransferred to (ho United States, I am Jnstitied, therelorc, in repeating the (picstions I addres.sed to Her Majesty's CJovcrmnent cm the r,'2ud of Insl danuary. ai\d whicli still remain imanswcred, viz. : — " Wiieiice did the ships of Canada derive the right to do in ISH(> that which tlicv had refrained from i ling for nearly ninety years ? "Upon what gu)inids did Her .Majesty's (Jovermnent deiend in the yearlssila course of conduct in the Hehring's Sea which had heen carefully avoided over since the discovery ol that sea ';' " My what roiisoning diii Her Majesty's (ilovernnient conclude that an act niny lie committed with impunity against the rights of the United States which had never liwii attempted against llu' same rights when hold hy (he Kussian Kmiure ?"' I have, &o. (Signed) JAMES (J. BliAlNI';. No. 375, •Si/- ./. Pduiicrfotr to Ihv Manjuis of Snlisbury, — {Receiver) Jiih/ 3,) (Telegraphic.) WnslniKjlon, Juh/ JJ, 1H!I(). I HAD a long interview with Mr, Blaine yesterday. He said that his health \hw>- sitatod his departure, ami that he had decided to leave for Bar Harbour to-day. Alhuling to the Behring".> Sea (|uestion, he said that it was too late now lo iiiaki' any ivrraugcment wliich would all'ecl the present (ishory season, but that he was pieimrcil to continue the negotiations with me from Bar Harbour, as I should probably soon he in the neighbourhood. -- , ■ ■'. ■:■ - ■■''.'■' No. 370. V. ' '■ ' ' .-II ' , Sic J. Paunrefote to the Mnrijuis of Sulifibury, — {Received July 7.) My T.ord, >Vashington,June Ifi, ISOO. 1 HAVE the Imnour to rejjort that on Saturday, the 14th instant, as instrucledin yoiT Lordship's telegram of the 11th instant, 1 addressed to the United States' Seorotnr) 507 iif Btiilc (111) ProtoBt ftRftitiHt any fiirthor intorloreiicc witli UritiHli hchIoih in llcliriiiff'H ^ct\, 111" ''•'""' «»l'"lii<:l' wiiM ineloHod 'v- your lionlHliip'H tloHimtcli oC tlio ;i!Mli iilUiiio. I liivvo the lionour to iiicloHo luM'cwitli copy ot tno I'rotoHt iih delivorod, t()^;otlior willi popy (il'tlic covoriiij^ 110(0 (o Mr. Uliiinn. I liiive, ^v.. (Higncd) JUMAN I'AII NCKKO'IT.. Iiiclosuii) I in No. ;}7(5. Sir ./. Piiuiirrfnlr to Mr. lilnlvr. .•>'-'■ '^ ' ' , ' ' j^ir^ ll'fislilnijidii, ,liinr \ I, |H')0. WITH rclVrciii'c (o (lii.' not(! wiiicli I liiid (Ik! lumoiir to nddiVHs to yuii on tin; I nil iiislnnt, I ilcHin- to ivxprcsH to yon my (li'('|» rcffrct iit Imvin;;' IjiIIi'iI up to tli(' incsrut. limi' to obtuin IVoni yon the iiHsunin(!u winch I liiid lio|t(Ml to ii'ccivc, timl dinin.'j,' tlic (Mintiinifincc ol' onr iicK'otiiifionH tor the mi'IIIoiiu'oI. of llu; l''nr-Kciil l'"islicry iincslinn, Kiitisli scMlin;i-V('sHolH wonid not be inti'rrori'ihvilli by Uiiitod S("t<'H' Kcvi'niM' crni/.ris on (III' Iti'lirin;;''^ Wcii mitsidt! of tcrritorini wiitrrs, llnviiif^' Ifiirnt I'roin ■.tiitcincntH in the |inblic press iind (Vmn ollnr soiirec;. Iliiil Mht |!('\enii('-<'rni/,('rH " IJiisli " and "t'orwin" are nou iibniil to lie ilispiilcbcd In tin l!('lninu;'s ^i'". I <'!iniHit. roiiNlHliMitly with the inntruetions I have rtM'eived tVuin my (liivcrnnieid. any lon;i'er deter (lu> conininnieation of their I'ormal I'rulcsl, aiinoimceil in my notes nt' the 'J-'trd ultimo and the I I th instant, ajiiiinst any sncli i?il(irerence with |fiitinh vessels. I have n(;cordiiii;ly the hononr to transmit tlm same herewith. I ,nive, iVe. (Signed) .JULIAN I'AlINCKKOTI':. Ill lial whicli (liiM IiicloHnre '2 in No. ',\T(\. I'rnlvsl. 'I'HK llndersjijinod, llei llritannic Majcisty's lllnvoy I'/xtraortlinary iind Minister i'jenipei tiiny to the I'nited States of America, lias the hononr, by instrnctions of his (lovert '" nuike to the Hononrahlo .1. D. Blaine, Secretary of" State ol (he United Stales, llh i\\ iif;- <-onittMtnication : — ller Ihitannic Mniesty's IJovernmcnt liav(« learnt with great concern, from notir^cs wliich hav<' appenrci! 1 the presH, and the gonernl accuracy of" which has f)een conlirmed i)y Mr. Mlaine's Htatenionts to the I'ldersigned, that tin; (lovernment of tiie 'niled Sditcs have issued inrtrnr-dons to their 1\i vcmue crnizorsaboid to lie dispatched to lielir ingw Sett, under which the veKsels ol' Kritish sMbjei-ts will again he e\pi>sc(l, in the prosecution of their legitiniat() industry on the high si is, to nrdawf'ul intcrt'i-rence 'it (he ii;inds of A'ncricaii oHieers. ller llritannit; Majesty's (ioverinnenl are anxious to co-opiM'ate (o (he lullest extent (iC llieir power with the (lovernnnnt of the United States in siu'h measures as may he IoiukI to he expedierd. for the protection of the seal lisheries. Tlusy are at (he present moment engaged in examining, in concert with the Oovermnent of the United Statics, the best method of arriving at an agreiim upon thiw point, hut they eaimot admit (In; rifflit of the United Slates of tlnii w sole nn)tion to restrict for this |iuri)ose the traedom of Mehring's Sea, which inr Uidted States have tliems(!lvcs in fornnM- years convincingly and succe.ssfidly vindi(^nteil, nor to enforce their municipal legislation •i;;iiinHl ilritish vessels on the high seas beyond the limits of their territorial jurisdiction. ller Ihitaunic Maji-sty's (lovernmeiit are thert'fore unable to p;iss over without iialicc the |iui)lie amnunu'enu'id of an inlfution im the; part of the (iovermuent ■' le Dniteil Slates to renew the acts of intert"erence with Uritish vessels navigating on. .ide tlic t(!rritorial waters of tlu^ Unile.d Slates, of which they have |M(^vionsly luid (o I'uuiplaiii. The Undersigned is in conse(|uence instructed fornuilly to protest against su(di inti'iference, and to declare that Her FiritiiniMc Majeslv's (lovernment must hold the [128] ' a T L' Si i' 508 Government of the United States rcHponsibli' for the conscquonccH which may ensue from nets whieli are contrary to tlie priiieiplcs of .nternational law. Tiic llM»ler.sifrni'(l Iuih tlio honour to renew to Mr. ilhiinc the assurances of hiij hif^hcst consideration. (Si;,'ncd) .llHilAN PAlJNCKi'OTi;. .No. ;i77. Sir J. Pnuneefote to the Marquis of Salinhury, — (JleceivHf, July 7.) My Lord, yVimhini/lou, June 27, IHIK). I ilAVI'] tlic lionour to transmit hercwitli a remarkable article on the sulijcct '^f the iJeiiring's Sea ncjj^otiutions wliich appearoil in Die "New York Herald" of yesterday. T have, ^cc. (Si-ned) JULIAN PAUNCF'^FOTli, Inclosure in No. 377. Kzlniclfrnm I he "New York IhriiUl" of June 2(), 1H!)0. (From our rcf^ular Correspondent.) " Hrnilil" Bureau, corner of Fifleenlh ami (1 Slrcrln, N.IY., Washimjlon, June 25, 1S<)(>. 'rilij slory of a recent interference 1 y the I'resident with tlie conduct and i)roifrt'ss of the l?ehrini;'s Sea nejiotiations has been circuiatinf]; 'onlidentialiy in Wasli'm^loii for several wc'cks. Its |)nl)lication now, after the intorijosilioii of the President liad ('cased and tlic niischief tlwealened l)v it ha I iv.ssod away, is rcii^arded in some (]uarti'rsiis a countei-aMack on .Mr. IMaine for his allowed 'rarilf heresy. 'riu> fo'I'iwiiij;- is a plain statement of th<! facts of the Hehriiifj's Sea ('jtiHdilo, obtained from nii authoritative source. It sliows that, as soon as the l'r(sideiit saw tlic (•onse(|uences of his well-meant intention, and that he had st'])arated himself in sonic def;ree from Mr. Blaine, he hastened to reunite himself to the Secretary an'l to strengthen the hitter's po.silion to tli: fullest extent as against adverse inlluenccs in the Administration. Steps in Diplomavji. '{'he oral discussicm of tlie i?ehrlng-'s Sea (luestion began between Secretary iilaiin' and Minister Pauneefote las"., .lanuary. The Secretary advanced and the Minister c(nnbatoil the claim of a territorial jurisdiction by the United States over all that part of lUdiring's Sea lying east and sontli of tlie boundary-line drawn Ibrough I'ehring's Sliiiit and across the sea b} the Treaty "itli Russia for tlie cession of Alaska to th's country. Without (Mining to a. head the discussion was laid aside by mutual consent and without prejudice to the ])osilion of cither party, for the reas(m that the I?ritish Representnlive admitted that his (iovcrumcnt Avas not only willing, but desirous, on grounds of gonil ncigbbourh'iod and of a mutual interest, to ttiter into an arrangement that would elllciently protect the .-^eals resorting to Jiehring's Sea from injurious molestation or slaughter. .\s these were the very ami the only objects for which the United Slates' (iovcrn- ment was desirous to establish its elaiv.i to a territorial jurisdicti(m in the waters of the sea, it was agreed to shift the discnsMon to the project of an international regulalicu nf seal-catching \\ herein a prohibiti(Mi jf marine scaling during the annual breedmg scnsmi shmild t\ ill a loading |)osition. Uussia, l)eing a necessary i)arty to such an arrangement, and liaMiig an identical interest with that of the nnite(l Stales as the owner ol seal- roolicri. - in Hehring's Sea, was invited to take part in the new discussion, and did so thiough its Uesident Envoy at Washington. Mr. Dlaine, however, was not .'■atistied to rest wholly ni)on the Britnh assurance that Knglund was even soinetliinjj ntpre than wjlling to assist the United States in taking due 5(m (.ftipof it« f-' ill property. In preparing for his friendly and informal conferences with the lli'it'Nl' .Mi'iister he had taken, upon his notes, a suggestion to draw into <liscussion the (lucstion, in view of the peculiar hahits of the fur-seal (which tliough nomadic during iiiirt of each year returned regularly and for a considcrahle period to its home within the United States), whether this (lovernmcnt miglit not lay claim to a riglit to extend u reasonable protection to the animal during its various movements in the waters Burroiinding its rookeries. Tiiis (liscussion he j)resscd upon the Minister, relying upon the wcll-estahlishcd Bnglinh doctrine of the " intention to return " to oflset the legal argument that property in auiiiialu of a wild nature is limited to the period of jxtssession. This second and independent claim to a police jurisdiction in Kebring's Hea is still pending, and the iirgunients on both sides of it have been fully and formally stated, with the help of eonipetcnt lawyers, and made matter of record, should it ever become necessary to revert to ihc claim. A Close Season. Up to the stage above indicated the negotiations had proceeded witliout obstruction. Not till the Plenipotentiaries came together to settle principal details of the agreed International Kegulations did it appear that while the United States contemplated a close season in ]*>ehring's Sea covering the whole period of six months or more during which the Hciils were moving into and out of the sea and were reposing at the rookeries, Great Dritiiin proposed simply such arrangements as would reasonably guard against an excessive cateliing of female seals, by which the perpetuity of tlie licrd would be endangered. In hcu (if a single and continuous close season, covering the nhole time of the yearly picsencc of the seals in Mehring's Sea, which was the project of the United States, the lliilish ))roposal was of two short periods of closure, one during the inward and another (hiring the outward movement of the seals, supi)lemented by a broad belt of isolation around the rookeries, which no sealing-vcssel was to penetrate. Mr. Hlaine was confident tiiat the Senate of the Unite' States would not ratify such a Convention as the British [Menipotentiary proposed, nor Congress enact the legislation nei'cssary to give it effect. Sir Julian was equa'iy sure that neither the British nor the Tiinadian Parliament would legislate upon the broad lines laid down by Mr. Blaine. Still both Plenipotentiaries were agreed upon the principle that there slioidd be an I'liective regulation of the sealitig industry, to be attaincul by mutual co-operation. The Kiissian proposition accorded with that of the United States, but the Russian Minister loft it to our Government, as the larger proprietor of rookeries, to act for both. The real (rouble lay in the statements and ojjinions of experts, upon which both nogolinnts necessarily had to rely. To settle (he defects and conflic(s of this so-called evidence, and to i)roduce a satisfactory basis for a Convention and the legisla- tion necessitated by it, a proposal was moved from the IJritish side to assemble a Joint Technical Commission to examine, decide, and report what was actually necessary to mry out (he well-settled intention of the parties. After a very jarefnl and deliberate consideration of this proposal, in which the main question was siudied in every possible aspect, .Mr. Blaine gave his adhesion to it. At this point the new lessees of the Alaskan Seal Islands intervened. They were not willing to put at issue, in any manner of form, the riuestion whether there should be any marine sealing in IJehring's Sea, however restricted. To make a long story short, they prevailed, but not at the State Department. The control of (he negotiations whs taken from Mr, Hlaine, and be was only permitted, as the organ of the Government, to icjcet the modus livriidi. (iioposed by the British (lovernnieut to carry the parties safely liironfi;!i the scaling season then close at liaiul, and report what he could learn or guess of the probable fiction or disposition of Lord Salisbury. The project of a Tcclinical Commission was dropped clean out of sight. Ordered to use Force. ill ' ;i ■m i i m ssii ranee The Keveniie cutters were ordered to Behriiig's Sea, there to enforce within disputed «aters (he full vigour of a Law passed with a view to waters not in disj)ute, and (he oslension of which Law to the »va(ers in dispute Congress had shrunk from as la(cly as ISij'.i, when the question of such an extension was squarely ])rcsente(l by a Bill which went in(o Conference and became a Law. Incjuirers at the Treasury Department were informed that the sailing orders to the cutters meant all they said ; that no secret or supplementary orders would issue in favour of British vessels, an<l that any such vessel 510 sciilin^ in Hdiriiiff'H Spa would lie xoizcd, rrlioved of \t» lading and papcrH, and l^,. (liHmautlr.l. !Mr. Hliiiiio know Uml the original question at iHfliiu had hroadcMunl into llic, lurm.r one ol'iin (•xPiciHc id' l]w rigid, ol' Hcardi in tiino ol' ptMico upon what, with roiisnlcrftliii, force ol'iirftunuMil imd wcigid of autliority, wiin daimt'd lo l»e ii jmrl of llio lii;,di scaK and wilhonl the conNcnl. of I lii* friendly Powor wIiohu vtisHcdH wpre (o he Huhjuctudionn indif;uilv \vlii«di tlio United SliileH iiad once lo f^one (o war I ► rc'Honl. What lie kn(!» Iho new eonduclnrH of Ui(> negotiatiouH knew nec'ewHarily. Sul, tliey hcoiUciI llie id,.,, tliiit Kiif>lrtn(l vvoidd do nmro llian protoHt, and lliej were not afraid of |trotestatinn. Knijiiiml ihoIcHh. j 'v.fr, i 'M ;ii All at oncn it becanie known that iionl HaliHbiiry meant to do tlio very tliin^r lic^q, expected not to do, and to ])vo(eet by force, if necessary, MriliHli vushoIh and siiliiiictsiii Molirinn's Si-a. The situation was iuiKtily reviewed, and the concl'.iHion reaclud tlmi, njiiin (he record of tlie ease as ina<le since .lannary last, the (■ovennnent eoidd nut iill'oril to j;i) licfoH" the world, nor even hefore llie |)resH and people of the United HtutcH, willi a defence of its rontem|dated policy of violence. The Ucvenne cntters were stopped at Piift'et Sound to await further orders. 'I'll,, ne^jo'iations were restored to the rliariie of the Secretary ot State, who iinproviscdu proposal designed to cover a retreat not necessitated by biniself and to put the i|iiPHlii)ii back In a mirnial and proper situation. There will he no trotdtle in iU-hrinij's Sea. The elainiH of the United Stales linu' been preset ved in full vi-'onr, aiul bel'iue llic (tpening of nnotlier Hcalinif season a si'iUc. niont will be reached lion(Uirable and advantagcouH to the United States. Arbif ration r.vprctcd, ll is expected that within tlic ne.\t ten or twelve days Mie negotiations will be sufiif advanced thai new sailing orders maybe issued to the " Kush " and " ''orwin," wliich vessels will then resume their interrupted voyage to Bchring's 8ea, tliere to perform all the duties re(iuired by law, but iu)t lo exercise a disputed jurisdiction wliicli it is tlic expectation of the (iSovernment to submit to the determination of some disinteiestMl Power or Sovereign, possibly Pope Leo XIll, as intinmted many niontbs a^o in Urm. ilespalehes. Mr. Mlaine gave it as an excuse that lie could not visit (iliicago this week, winn pressed to do so, because of the importance of the Jiehring's Sea negotiations .ow I'avourably progressing, as he said. , . I No. a78. «S/r ./. Pauncefnie to the Marijuis of Halisburn. — {Received Julij 7.) My I,ortl, Washimiton, June 27, IH'.IO, I HAVK the honour to transinit copy of a note which I addressed to Mr, J5iiiine immediately upon the receipt of your liordsbip's telegram of the 2('>th instant. I trust (bat it will meet witli your Lordship's approval, r liavc, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCKFOTE Inclosure in No. 378. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Blaine. Sir, IVnshimjtoit, June 27, 1S!)I). 1 I'll) not fail to transmit to the Marquis of Salisbury a ciqjy of yom- note of tlio I lib instant, in which, with reference to his Lordship's statement, that British Icgislalinii would be lu'cessary to enable Her Majesty's (lovernment to exclude British vessels fniin any poi lion of the high seas, "even for an hour," you informed me, by desire ol' (lie I'residenl. that the United States' Glovcrnment would be satisfied "if Lord Salishnrv would, by public Proclamation, simply request that vessels sailing under the liritish lias: should alistain from entering the Behring's Sea during the present season." [ have now the honour to inform you that 1 have been instructed by Lord Salisbiirj ^mmm 611 ,„ sdite to von, i>i reply, thnt the IVcHidont h rofiiiPHl piOHcnlH coiiHlitutKimil <lilli(iilti('M iiliicli \v(iiil<l prcclndc Her MnjcHly's (Jovcriimciit Irrirn acceding; )o i(^ ('xccpt hh |)iu(, <i\' ii (fcncrnl hcIu'Iiii! lor Mu- HcltlciiH-ii). of (lie McliriDfj'K Ht'ii coiitrovcrHy, itnd on r'ntiiin ((.n. iiitiniis which wonid JiiHl'd'y (he aKHuiii|)lioii hy Her MiijchIv'h (iovt'riiincnl of Mm- «;iiv(.' rc^lioiisihility involved in tliu propoHiil. ThoHU condifionH iirc : - I. TImt tho two (lovornriiontH (iRiec fiirVhwith to refer to arbiirnlioii tlic (piL'ntion of 'lie Icfiidil.V of th(! action of tho Cnitod Htatcs' (Jovernnicnt in Hci/injf or othiuvviHu jiiu'iliTln^f «itlt Mritish vchhcIh cnfrHg*''! in the Hi'iirinfj'H Huii, ontsidc of tcMiitoriiil HiiliTH, during (he yfiM-H IHHO, IHH7, imd IHHU. '2. That, pondiny l\u' iiwiird, nil intfrfcrcncc witli BritiHli Henlitifjf-vi'HHids Hliall nbHo- luiely (-•c-aHo. It. Tliat th(! ITnitcd Stales' (iovcniinent, if tiu; award Hhould i)i; advur.sc to liicni on tliu (piustioii of lej^al rifrlit, will ('oniiienHatc Mritisli Hubji-ctH for tiu! losHi-Hwhirii liioy may sustain hy rcMiHon of their compliance witli the IJritiHh I'lodamatioii. Such are tho three conilitionH on wliich it \h indispcnHahic, in tlic view of Her MajcHly'n Oovernnienl, that the iHsnc (d' the proposed I'roclainntion Hlionld l)e based. As rcjjards the conipenHation claimed by Her Majesty's Government for the losses and in.jinies sustained by IJiitish subjects by reason of the action of the I'nited States' (lovorinnent a><ain»t British Hcaling-vessels in the Behrin^'rt Hea during the yt^ars lH8(i, I8S7, (I'ld IH81i, I have already informed Lord Halir.bury of your assurance that the United Slules' (Jovernnient would not let that claim stand in tlie way of an amiciib](> ailjuHtiMCid. of the controversy, and I trust tliat the reply which, hy direction of Lord 8n!iHl»iiry, I hive now (he honour to return to the President's iiKpiiry, may facilitate I lie nttftiinnent of that object, for which we have ho long and so earnestly laboured. [ have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCFyFOTIi;. ' n •a f 'u No. .'J79, Sir ./. Pauncpfnlf In Iha MurquiH of Salishurij. — (Received July (I.) (TelcKraphic.) Wnshinrjlnv, Julii 9, 1«00. In the House of llcpresctitatives to-day, on the motion of Mr. Hilt, the Chairmnn (if (lie House (Committee (m Foreign AtfaiiH, a Kesolution was adopted, "That the President be reipiested to furnish *!•<• Ifonsc! with the correspondence! between tlie Government of tlic United Stalcis and the (lovernnient ot Oreat Britain touching tlie subjects in dispute in the lUdiring's Sea since the 4th March, 1889." « ir UNCKFOTK No. 380. The Marquis of Salishury to Sir ./. Ptiuncefote. Sir, ' Foreiyn Office, Jiihi U), i8!)0. I APIMIOVi'i the note addres.sed by yon to Mr. Blaine on tlio sni.jeci of the issue ofu I'roclamation requesting British vessels to abstain from entering I be Belli ing's Sea during the present scaling season, of which a copy was inclosed in your liesjjatcii of the 27th ultimo. , ■> ■ , ,' , . ■ '■' *" ■': ■■■ ■ •' ' lam, &c. ^r :.••.,:...;...'"■,..>;' ;.^ ■ , ./ '.■ (Signed) SALTSBUHY. ;[ ■< 'I- ri'i .'; ;i1 ^^ 'tii::.:- oiil vi .I'Urrt.^ fj 812 ' ' "" ^- . ' '■ No. 381. . , . The Marquis of Salisburt/ to Sir J. PHuncefole. Sir, Foreign Office, July 10, 181)0 1 API'ROVR tlio terms of tlio note in which you forwarded to Mr. Bluinc tlio protest of I lor Mojesty'H Oovernment against any further interference witli Hritisli Hcnlers in Itchring's 8ca, ns reported in your despateh of tlic 18th ultimo. T am, &c. (Signed) SALISHUHY. I No. 382. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Paunrcfolfi. Sir, Foreiyn Office, Aurjiisf 2, 1890. I TTAVE received and laid befon; the Queen your despatch of the; 1st ultirmi, forwardinp; a «'opy of a note from Mr. Hl.aine, in wiiich he maintains that tlie \Jn\ivi\ States have derived from llnssin rif^hts of jurisdiction over tlio waters of JJcliiinif's Sea to a distaniio of 100 miles from the coasts transferred to them under the 'IVoatvnf the 30th March, ]8(i7. In replying to the arguments to the contrary effeet contained in my dospatcli of the 22nd May, Mr. Hhiine draws attention (o certain expressions wliicli I had omitted for tlio sak<! of hrevity in (|Uoting from Mr. Adams' despaleli ol' the 22nd .luly, 1823. lie contends that these words give; a dill'erent meaniiii;' to \\\t> despatch, and that the latter does not refute, but actually supports, the ])nMMii claim of the United States. It becomes necessary, therefore, tiiat I should rd'iM' in greater detail to the eorrespondeiuic, an examination of which will show (liat the passiigc in question cannot have the sijjnilicatiou which Mr. IMaino seeks to i,'ive t'l it, that the words omitted by me do not in locality alfeet the jtoiiit at issue, and timt the view Avhich he takes of the attitude both of (Jreat IJritain and of i\w United States towards the claim put forward by Russia in 1822 cannot be reconciled Mith the tenour of the despatches. It appears from the published pai)ers that in 179S) the Emperor Paul I i,'r,'iiito(l by Charter to the lliissian Am(>rican Company the exclusive right of huntinj,', liadc, industries, and discoveries of new land on the north-west coast of America from Behring's Strait to the TiDth degree of north latitude, with permission to the Com- pany to extend their discoveries to the south and to form establishmeuls tliciv, provided they did not encroach upon the territory occupied by other Powers. The southern limit thus provisionally assigucid to the Company corresponds, ■within 20 or 30 miles, Avith that which Mas ovtMitually agreed upon as the hoiindiiiy between the Uritish and llnssian possessions. It comi)rises not only the Avliole American coast of Jiehring's Sea, but a long reach of coast-line to the south of tiie Alaskan Peninsula as far as the level of the southern portion of Prince of Wales' Island. The Charter, which was issued at a time of great i'luropean excitemciut, attnicti'd apparently little attention at the moment, and gave rise to no nnnonstraiice. ii made no claini to exclusive jurisdiction over the sea, nor do any nuiasures appear Id have been taken under it to restrict the commerce, navigation, or lishery ol' tlic subjects of fonngn nations. Eut in September 1821 the Russian Government issued a fresh Ukase, of which the provisions material to the present discussion were as follows: — " Section 1. The pursuits nt' commerce, wlialing, and lisliing, und of all other industry, on nil islands, ports, and gull's, inchuling the whole of the iiortli-west coast of America, he^^innini,' fimii Behrinj^'s Strait to tiie ulst degree of northern latitude ; also from the Aleutian Islands tn Ik' eastern coast of Silieria, as well as along the Kurile Islands from Uehring's Strait to the soulli i.ii|iei'l the Island of Urup, viz., to 45" 50' noithern latitude, are exclusively granted to Russian suliJiH'ts. " Sec. 2. It is therefore prohibited to all foreign vessels not only to land on the coasts and islands belonging to llnssia, as stated above, but also to approach thcni within less than lUC Italiiui miles. The transgressor's vessel is subject to confiscation, along with the whole cargo." By this Ukase the exclusive domitiiou claimed by Russia on the American Con- tinent was puslicd some 250 miles to the south as far as Vancouver Island, and notice 518 was for Uio first timo f^ivon of u claim to maritime jurisdiction which was roj^awlfw! lu.tli ill Un^'innd and tho United States as extravaf,'ant, or, to use Lord StoweU's ih'scription of it, " very unineasiu-ed and insupitortablo." L'pon reeoiviny conimunieation of the Uitaso, the ]{ritisli and United States' fiovcrnnients at on(!e obje(!ted l)()tli to the extension of tiie territorial claim and to the assertion of maritime jurisdiction. For the prescmt, I will refer only to the protest of tiic United States' Government. This was made in a note from Mr. John (^uincy Adams, then Sccrcitary of State, to the; llussian llopresontative, dated the 25tli February, 1822, which (lontains the following statement : — " 1 mil (lirnctcil liy tlin rresidout of the Uiiilod Stfttcs to inform ymi thiit lio has huuii witli siiriiiis(' ill this I'Mict tlio nHHuHimi of a ti^iritoriiil diiiiii on tlio part of Russia cxtdndiiij,' to tliii "ilst (l(.';,'riHi iif iKntli liilitiidi! on tlii.s conliiiyiit, iiiiil a ri';,'iilntion iiitcrdictiii},' to all comiiiciriiil v(^ss(!lM oiln'r tlmn 1,'iissiiiii, ii|""i tl'i' Iiuiialty of sin/uro ami coiifisoatioii, tlu! a]i|iroarli ii|iiiu tho 1m;,<1i hchh within lin'r lliiliiiii miles of tilt! shunts to which that uliiini is iimilc to a|i]ily. Tin- rolatioiis of tlio Ifiiitcd Sillies willi Ills liii|ieiiiil Miijosty liavo always \ifv.n of tlio most fiioiiilly chanicter, ami it is tlui I'liriii'sl (Irsiio of this (iovc'riiiiK'iil to |)rt!s(uv(! tliciu in that sUilc. It was I'xpi'clcil, liefcui! uiiy act Hhiili sliiiiilil (IctiiK! the lioiimiury Ipctwfcii tho territories of the lliiileil SIuIch ami IJiissia on this (iiiiliiii'iil, lliiit tlie same would have lieeii arranged liy Treiily hetwi'cii the |i,irties. To exclude the vi'sscls of our citi/.(Uis from the shore, ln'yoiid tlio ordinary distance to which tint territorial jiiris- ilictiiiii cxIcikIs, has excited still Hreiiler surprise. "This Ordinamu' iilfectK so dee|p|y the ri;,'hts of the I'nitel Slates and of their citizens that I am iiislriicted to im(uiru wdiethcr y<Mi are autliori/eil to ;,'ive. (rx]iliiuatioiis of the ^'rounds of ri;,dil, upon |irinciplcs t,'(!iiurally recognized liy the laws and nsa^'os of nations, which I'lm warrant the cliiinis iiml ri'ijuliitioiis contained 'u it." The Russian ReprescMitative replied at len;,'th, delendini^ the territorial claim on !;roundH of discovery, first oceujialion, and undisturbed possession, and explaining the motive "which determined the Imperial Government to prohibit foreign vessels from approaching the north-west (!oa.sts of America Ijelonging to Ilussia, within the (listam^e of at least 100 Italian iniles. This measure," he said, " however severe it may at iirst view appear, is after all but a measure of ))revt!ntion." Jle wvnt (m to say tliiit it was adoi)te(l in order to put a stop to an illicit trade in arms and ammunition with the natives, against which the llussian Government had frequently remonstrated ; iind further on he observed : — " I oii^'ht, in till! hist ])laco, to rc<ine.st you to consider, Sir, that the Itii.ssian po.sse.ssion.s in the I'ucitic Ocean extiMid, on tlu! noith-wost coast of Amerii'a, from l'.(;lirinj.''s Strait to tlio ."ilst de^'iee of iiiii'lli latitude, and on the opposite side oi' Asia and the islands ailjacenl, froiii the smiiic strait tn tlu' 45lli dci,'rue, the extent of .sea of which tli'ise ]io.ssessioiis form the limits comprehends all the cou- ilitidiis which are ordiiiiirily iittached to sliiil sai.t (' niers fcrniees '), and the liiissiiui (lovernnient iiiinlit, cmise(|U(!ntly, ju(l;,'e ils'.-lf authorized to exerci.se upon this s(!a the ri^dit of s()vcreij,'nty, and csin'oially that of entirely interdicting' the entrance of foridj^'ners. I>ut it preferre(l only as.serting its essential rif,dits, without taking' any iidviintiij,'e of localities." To this Mr. Adams replicnl (30th March, 1822), pointing out that the only ground given for the extcmsion of the llussian territorial claim was the (!stablishment of a settlement, not upon the continent, but upon a small island, actually within the limits prescribed to the Russian American Company in 1799, and he went on lo say :— "This iireteiision is to ho considered not only with rcfcrenco to the question of territorial rii,'lit, liiit also to that prohibition to the vessels of other nations, incliidinj,' tho.so of the United States, to a[)|ii'fiiieli within KM) Italian mihw of tin? coasts. From the period of the existenci' of the I'nited States as an indcipendent natiiai, tlii^ir ve.s.sels have freely navigatcil those .seas, and the ri.nht to niivi- ;,iite them is a part of that indcpinidence. " With rei.!ar(l to the suggestion that the liii.ssiuu (tovernnient might have jusiilied the exercise of sovereignty over the I'acilic Ocean ns a close sea, liccause it claims territory liotli on its American ami Asiatic shores, it may s'dlice to say that the distance from shore to shore on this hv.:\, in latitude jl" north, is not less than OO degrees of longitude, or 4,000 miles." The Russian Representative replied to this note, endeavouring to prove that the territorial rights of Russia on the north-west coast of America were not confined to the limits of the Concession granted to the llussian American Company in 1799, and arguing that the great extent of the Pacific Ocean at the 61st degree of latitude (lid not invalidate the right which Russia might have to consider that part of the ocean as closed. Rut he added that further discussion of this point was unnecessary, as the Imperial Government had not thought fit to take advantage; of that right. The correspondence then dropped for a time, to be resumed in the following spring. But it is perfectly clear from the above that the privileges granted to the (128J 3 U f HI '11 I (■ i sit HvmHiiiii Amoricaii Coinpjviiy in 170!), wlmtcvcr cITcjil. tlicy •"">' Imvc liuil ns w^nnh otiior Russian suhjiTls, did not oiKTiitc to uxtdudc Aiiii'ricnn vessels (vuxn niiy |iait ot" tlio const, and (liat tlio attempt to exoludo tiioni in 1H21 was at once rcMstui, FuitluT, that tlio Hussiau (iuvermiient had no idea of any dislinelion lictwccii Uehrinijj's Sea and the J'aeil'ie Ocean, whieli latter they eonsi(h'red as reach iiii; smith. waril from Hehrinj^'s !S( raits. Nor throuf^hont the whole of the suhsi'(|iienl ciiriv,. ixmdeiice is then< any relVrence whatever on either side to any distinctive ikimic \,ij HehrinLf's Sea, or any intimation that it could 1)(> considered otlu>rwise than as lormiii' an inle}j;ral jmrt of the l'a«'ilic Ocean. 1 now come to the d(<sj)atch from Mr. Adams to ^fr. Middleton of the 22n(l .lulv, 1S2H, to which reference has hcfore he(Mi made, and which it will he necessary to (|niiii' somewhat at leni,'th. After authorizins; Mr. Middleton to enter upon a ne<;(itiiitiii|| M'ith the Hussian Ministers concerning the <lilT(>renccs which hud arisen I'rDin tin. Ukase of the tth (Kith) Septemh(>r, 1821 Mr. Achims eontiniu's : — " I''riiiii till' li'iKMir (if Itii' I'kiisi', till' |)i'oti'iiMioiiH of llio Iiiiiiciiiil (iovcniiiiciit cxtcinl t,, m, cxc.lusivo ti'Vi'ildriiil iiiiisdiciiiiii IVdiii llii' l.'itli (lt'j,'iw ol' iinrlli lnlitiiiic, dii the AMialii' cdiisi, in ii,,, liilitiiili' of fil" ii(iili\ oil tlui wcslcni const of tlii^ Aiiioiicnii Coiiliui'iil ; luul tlicy hmsimiii' tlic iiji|ii ,,[ iiilciilicliiii^ tlic iiiivi^'iitioii mill tlio lislu'iy of all olliiu' imlioiw to llic I'XtiMit of IdO iiiilcs i'ldin il,,. wlioli' >'( tliul const. "Till' I'liitcil StiiU's can mliiiit no jmrt of tlii'sc cliiiniH. Tlicir liKlit of iinvi^;iitioii iiiiil of \h\m< i.s iicrli'ct, mill liiiM lii'cii ill coiiHlniit exercise from the curliest times, niter the ]ieiice of IT.'^:!, tliiiiiiu||i,iii tlie wliolc extent of the .Soiitlicni Cceiiii, sulijcct only In llic oriliimry i'xcc]itioiis iiiiil exclusions nl'iho tcrritorini jiirisilictioiis, wliicli, so fnr ns Itiissinii ri^;lit.s nie conceriicil, mo conliiieil to corliiiii Jslinnlj north of the ."i.'ith ilcj;ieo of Intitiiile, miil Imvc no existence on the continent of Aiiiericii." Mr. Blaino has ar;^ucd at !];reat lenajtli to show that wlien Mr. Adams used those clear and foreihle expressions l.o did not metin what he scorned to say ; thtit when he stated thitt th(> United States "could admit no part of these claims," he meant that tlu>y admitted all that part of thoni which ndated to the coast north of the Alentinn Islands; tlitil when ho spoko of the Southern Ocean, ho meai\t to except n('liriiii,''.s Sea ; and that when he contended that the ordinary exceptions and exclusions of the territorial jurisdictions had no existence, so far as llussian ri,u;hts w<>re coiiceriiod, on the Continent of America, he used the latter 1(>rm not in a i;eo<^raphieal hut in a "territorial" sense, and tacitly oxcej»ted, hy a very singular pctilio principii, the Russian ]t()ssessions. In order to carry out this theory, it is necessary for him nlso to assunu' that the neijotiators in the course of the discussions made indiscriminate use of the term "north-west coast of America," with ,a variety of sif^nilicatior. wliieli lie admits to he "confusinij, and, at ctu'tain points, apparently contradictory and iri'mm. cilahle." The r(>i)ntation of the American statesmen and diplomatists of that day for caufinn and precision alVords of itself strong:; ari^ument against such a view, and, even if this had heen otherwise, so forced a coustructioii would require very strong ovidonco to continn it. Hut a glance at the rest of the despatch and at the other papers will show that the moi-e simple interprctatiou of the words is the correct one. Tor Sir. Adams goes on to say : — "The coiTt's]ioiiili'iice Ictweeii A[. Tolotica niid this Pepnrtnient coiituineil no iliscnssiuii of tlio priiiciidi's or of the fncts ii|)on which lie iittemiileil the justiliciition of the Jin|ieiinl I'linsc, Tliis wns I'liiiiiiscly uvoiilcil on our jinrt, niiiler the exiiectnliun that the liii[ierial Ciovenimcut ceulil imt fnil, upon a review of the measure, to revoke it altogether. It iliil, however, excite iniuli pilijio miimailversioii in this coiintrv, as the fkase it.self hail alreaily done in Knglailil. I inclose hcnwitli the'Xortli American Review' for October 1822, No. .'!", which contains an Article (]>. liTO) wiilti'ii l>y a iH'i'soii fully master of tlip suliject ; ami for the view of it taken in Mnglanil 1 refer yim to the litty-secoiiil iiumlier of the ' Quarterly Jteview,' the article iiimui Lieutenant Kotzubue's viiya;4i'4 From the article in the 'North American lieview' it will be seen that the rif,'lit.s of iliscuviiv, of occuiiancy, and of uncontested posse.'jsion, allcfjed by il. I'oletioa, arc all without foiiii(lalioii in fact " On refereuee to the last-mentioned article, it will bo found that the writer states that "ii trade to the north-western coast of America and the free navigation of the waters that wash its shores have been enjoyed as a common right by subjects of th(^ United States and of several European Powers, without interruption, for nearly forty years. We arc by no means prepared to believe, or admit, that all tliis lias been on siiirorance merely, and that the rights of commerce and navigation in that region have been vested in Russia alone." Turtlier ou he puts the question in the following manner (the italics are bis own) : " It is not, we appreliend, wiiether Rutisia hsm any settlements tiiut give her territorial cloimB on the Coutineut of SIR [it tlic writer AmoriVfV. Tliis wo do not, dony — hut it is whrthrr llir location of those Rttthmmh and the tlinniverirs of Iwr naviyatum arr sui:k ii.s llifiij are ri'prfsrntcil tit lie ; whv.thvr they entitle yf to the I'xcliislvc possrstiinn of the wholn Icirllonj north of 01", and to sowreujntii over the Piiri/i': Oiriin beyond thai piiridlel" Tiiesiu |)>'isHa^fH .sulliciuiitly iiiiistnito Mr. Adams' meaning, if any ovidcriut! bn n>(iiiircMl tliat lit) used plain laii}^iiaf,'(! in its ordinary s(!ns(!. Ch^arly lio nioant to deny that llio Itiissian scttlnnicnts or discoviMics i,'av(i Jlnssia any (daini as ol' ri;;Iit to oxcliidt! tlio navifj;ati()ii or (ishury nl' oilier nations from any part of tlio season llio const oi' Anveriea, and that her rights in this respeet were limited to the t(!rritorial wntii's oi'eertaiii islands oi" which sht) was in permanent and eomph'to oe(!iiputi(m. JIavinfj; distinctly laid down this proposition as rei,'ards tlu! rif;hts oi' tlui case, Mr. Adams wont on to state wiiat th(! United States wen; nsady to aj^rco to as u matter ol' Conventional arranf^cmcnt. ilo said : — "Willi ri'^'iml to Hid ti'iTitoriiil cJiiiiii, K('|iiiriiti! rmni liii; ri^lit of trnllii: with tlin iiativim iiiul Ciiiii iiiiy fi.VHli'iii iif coldiiiiil i!X(;liiHii)iiM, wu iiK! willing to iii^rci; Id IJlc lioiiiiiliiiy-iini' williiii whicli lliu Kiiiiienir I'liul liiul ^'riuitcd uxdiisivu priviU'^'i's U) Ihc llu.sniiiii AiiiuiiLiiii C/'iiininiiiy, tliut in to nay, liilituili^ uh°. " II' tliii KusmIiui (iovcriiiniiiit a]i|iirlii'iiii Mciiims iiKMHivciiii'iicc iViiin lln' illi( il. Irallic nl' liiici^iicr^ villi llii'ir f'ttlt'iiiiiiitH 111! lilt) iioitli-W('nl niiiMl, il iimy ]»', (^lU'cliinlly ;,'iiur(lcil n^iiiiisL iiy Hti|iiiliil,i(iiii< siiiiil:ii' til tliiisi! 11 tli'iil't nl'wiiicli is liiiriiwitli ,siil>jiiiiii:(l, iiiid to which you mo iiutliorizuti, on tliu piut of lliu Uiiiti'il Stiiti^H, to ii^ruu. . . ." Tho draft Convcutiou was as follows : — " I>rn/l of Treaty hliuecn the Uni'M iSlntcH awl Rmsia. "Artit'lin. In oidia' to Hti('ii;^tli(^ii llic IioimIh of liiciiilHliip, itml to ihthimvi! in fiitiiri' ii jicifnt Ininiimiv iiiiil ^^ood uinliirstiUKliii;,' ln^lwccii tlu^ tjoiitrucliii;,' riiilicH, it is iij,'ii'(;il timt tlii^ir r('s|icctiv(i cilizi'iis mill siihji^cls nIiuU not lio (liHliiilicii or iiioh'stcil, citlicr in iiiivij,'iitiiij^ or in currying on their lislii'i'ii^s in tli(^ I'licilic Occiiii rir in tlio Soiitli Hciih, or in liindiiii^ on tlu; coiistH of tlioso hciih, ill lihici'M not iilitMiily oc.cii|ii(Ml, for tin; |pui|ios(! of (iinyiii;,' on tlii'ir cuiiiiiiurco with tlio nritivcs of tliu ciuiiitiy, sulijiM't, nov('itlitdcss, to tlii^ rusliictions iiiid incjvi.sioiiH sin'ciliinl in tliu two following; Aiticlcs. "Art. II. 'I'o till' olid that tlio niivi^^ation iiiid llsliory of tlio citizens and Hulijccts of tlio (Jontniiitiny I'iiiticsi, ivs|u'(!tiv('Iy, in llio I'licilii; Oiciiii or in tliu South Scan iiiiiy not ho iiiado a pu^lcxt lor illicit liiidc! with llicir rcs|i(^clivo .sottlcnu'iits, it is ii^hmmI that tlio citimnis of llio lIiiit(Ml Stales shall n.it liuiil on any jiart of llio const iictiially oc.cii|ii(i(l liy liiissian .si^tllonK^ntH, unless hy jn'riiiission ol' tli(^ (iovcriior or ( 'oiiiiiiiunler tluu'cof, and that Kiissiaii sulijects shall, in liki! niaiiner, Ik; iiitcrdictod fniiii laiiilini,' witlioiit ]ieniii.sMion at any .settleiiient of the t'liitiMl States on the .said north-west coa.st. "Alt. 111. It is ai;i'eed that no sidtleiiieiil shall he made hereafltr on tlu; north-west coast of America hy (!ili/(Mis of thu United Statics or iiiiJur thuir authority, north, nor hy Itussian suhjects, or under the authority of Kussiii, south of the "prjth dej,'roo of north latitude." In an o.vplanatory despatch to Mr. Hush, tho American Minister in London, same date, Mr. Adams says : — " The ri},'ht of carry injj on trndo with tho natives thrnushout tho north-west coa.st they (the United Status) cannot renounce. With tho liussiaii scttleinents at Kodiiik, or at New Archani^el, they may (airly claim tho lulvantnf,'" f>f a fi'ei' trllll(^ liaviiij,' so loiij; enjoyed it nninolesli'd, and hecaiise it hiw liccu and would continuo to ho as iidviintaj,'eoii.s at hiasl to tho.se selllenieiils as to them. I'.iit they will not contest tho ri;^'lit of Uussia to jiroliiliit tho trallic, as strictly conlinud to the IJii.s.sian seltlenicnt itself, and not e.\tunding to the ori;^iiml natives of the coast " It is ditficult to conceive; how the term "north-west coast of America" used Ikuo niul elsewhere can \m intcrprot<'d otherwi.si! than as ap[)lyin(j; to the north-west coast of America i^imcrally, or how it can bcs seriously (iontended that it was meant to denote only the more westerly portion, (>.\(dudini,' the more north-westerly jiart, because by becoming a Russian possession this hitter had ceased to belong to tho American Continent. Mr. Hlaine states that when Mr. -Middleton declariHl that Russia had no right of exclusion on the coasts of Anun-ica between the 50tli and (JOth degrees of north latitude, nor in the seas which washed those coasts, he intiiriihid to make a distinction bctweim Jiehring's Sea and the Pacific Ocean. But upon reference to a Map, it will be seen that the GOth degree of north latitude strikes straight across 13ehring's Sea, leaving by far the larger and more imjjortant jiart of it to the south ; so that I confess it appears to me that Ijy no conceivable construction of his words can Mr. Middleton be supposed to have excepted that sea from those which he declared to be free. With regard to the construction which Mr. Blaine puts upon tho Treaty between the United States and Russia of tlie 17th April, 1824, I will only say that it is, as far as I am aware, an entirely novel one, that there is no trace of its having been [128J • 3 U 2 i m i m i Bin ViKiwn (() ihc viiriotis piihUolsts ulio linvc \fWvn nii ncrounf nf tlu* ('rjiifnivcrsv ii, 'rnmtifMiin liil(>niiitii)iuil l.iiw. tind (Iml it in cimlniry. hn I mIiiiII mIiow, in Pmi win,!, tlio Hiili«*li M('|j;ii(iii(iirs pliiccd on ll\(< 'rri'iily wlicn Mu'.v lulonlcil (he ls( niin ||,|,| ArlicIcH fur iiiNi<r1i(in in tin- Hiitisli 'I'rciity <tl' Mi»< 2x\\\ l''clini(irv, IH'2ri. | imm I'lirtlicr iliHscii) IVoim Ills ind-riiri'liiliiin nl' Ailirjo Nil nl' (li<i lultor 'IVi'iily. 'Umi Arlii'it" ^i^('s to Ihc vi'sscIm of llu' two I'ouorH "lilicrly In ri('i|iii'nl nil llii" inliitnl Mim, fTiiirN, IwiM'iis, anil cicckM mi llic i-ommI iiiciiliiiiird in Ailicli' lll.tnr Mk' |iin'|iiJNi< i,i llHliin^c and id' (radinj; willi Hii« nalivi-s." Tin" (•x|in'MHioii "coiml, nxMilidiii'il ji, Arliolc III" can unlv iid'cr (n lli»> (li'Nt \V(irdH nf llii' Ai'li»dt> : " 'I'lin line of dnrninviiiinn li<>l\v<'*>n till' iKmsrMsiiinN id' llii> lli^li CniiliiH'tinL; i'aitii'N ii|i(in tlio cnast nf ||||. ('oiitiiii'iit and tlii> iNJands nl' AiniM'ica to tlic nnrtli-wt'Ntr nIiiiII Iw drawn," <Vr. Tlmi In til Nay, it iii(diiili<d all tlir |iiiHHi<NNioim nf tlii< two I'dwith on tlii> noi'tli-wril mimi ,,f Aini'vioa. I''i>r tlii>n< wunld liiivr lu'cii no ncmho wluitovi'i' in Htipnlatinn tlial KiisKian vinni'In hIiiiiiIiI liavi> I'm'doin of acroNN to tlii< Hiiiall |iiirt.iiin of coast wliicli, liy a lulu |iait of the Article, is to liclon^ to llnssja. And as licarini!; on tliis point it will In noticed that Article \ I, wliieli lias a nioie restricted lieariii);, N|ieakH only nl' "llu huIijccIm of His Itritaiinie Majesty," and of "the Inir of nm.it ilr.irrilii'tl in Artii'le 111" The sti|iiilations of the Treaty were I'ornially riMiewed liy ArtielcN inserleil in Hie Goiiera I Treaties of ("oininerce lietwceii (Jreat Hritain and Mnssia of IH|.;t aiiil lsr,ii Ihit Mr. Klaine stateN that "the rii;litN of the KiiNsian Ainerican ('oni|iany, wlijch, under hotli Ukases, inchided the siiverei)^nty over the sea to the extent of 1(10 iiiilii fiMiii the shores, were reserved hy special clansc in a separate iiiiil Hpceial Arliil Ni^ncd after the principal Articles of the Treaty had hren concluded and siu;iii'il." Ipon this I have to ohserve, ii: the tlrsi ,daiM> that the Ukase of I71M) iliil nni contain any nicnlion wli.atcvcr of sovcrcimity over the Hca ; secondly, that the ciiriliM nf the Separate Arti(de is such as altogelher to preidude the inferpretafion that il wiiv liii'imt to reciii{iii/e tli<^ ohjivtionahlc (^iaini conlaiiii'd in llu^ llkasu of 1H21, I will quote the Artieic at lcn^tll : — " !( is niidciNiiiiMl UllMlliillKMJ mIiiiII lli'l 111- liKc iimmu'i llmt llii' cvci'jiliDHH, iniiiimiilii'H, iiml |iiivili'Ki'^' 'n' ,'in;i|ii> ii'il iiH 111 vav lllLSIN 111' lllc 'I'liMllV 111 lllIM llllll', lllllt is Id HIIV : ciinsiili'iiMl UN 111 vaviiin I' I'VCI'I I'll Willi I ilii' |niiiri|ili! iif ivripniril y wliiiji liiniis lli I 111' KiiMMiiin |MiilM nf till' l!liii'l< Sni, till' Sea 'llllll |iiii'tM III' till' ( )llii|iiiui Mlil|>il'ii Miliinli'il " I. Till' i'M'Mi|)liiiii Irniii iiiivipilinii iliii'M iliiviiij.! Ilii' Hi'mI llii'i'i! yi'iirs, wliirli i.i nijnvi'il 1 VOSSi'ls lillill ill liiissiii Mill! lirlnlljLiilij,' In lillNsiiui niii'|i'i ' ; " L'. Till' i'\i'iii|ilioiiM nl' the like iiiiluni f'iniilril ih of Aznf, illlii till' I •iiiiiiIh' In Miirli 'I'liiKiMJi M'nhi'Im in , 'viii on llli' lfl;irlv Scii, il;i ilo linl I'M'i'nl .SO Iu.hI.i lilirili'll " iV 'I'lli' )M'nilisMi(in unilllril In llu- illliilliililllls of tin iisl, nl' tin- (invi'llltlirlllr nl' Alvllilll'^i'l. I" im|invl illilv five, or nil |iiivnn'Ml nf iiinilcriilc diitii'M, iiiln tlic |inrts nf Ijic miiIiI (invi'llllilrlil, iIiU'iI mi Killit'd lisli. iiM likewise celiiiiii Kiiicjs nf furs, iiliil In e\|in|i llieli'l'iniii, in llio DilllK' llllllllliM, ciil'll, rii|ii mid i'niiliiv;e, |iilili, iiliil riiveiisihiik. "1. 'I'lie liiivile^i' nl'tlie Iv'ussiiili Aliierinill ( 'niii|iiiiiv. " T). 'I'iie )iri\ili'f;e nf llie Stemii Nii\ ii,'iilinii ('niii|Miiiies nl' l.iilii'i'k llllil llnvm; iiisllv, " ti. 'nio iiiiiiiimilies urniiled in iiiissin In eeilniii l'',n}^lisli ('niii|iiiliii's, nilled ' Viirlil. I'liilw. " To suppose tliat under the simple words, " the privilej^e of the lluHsian Anioiicin Cotup.'iny," placed in ooiincction with the privilep' of FriMich and (Jcrniaii SIcam KavisiJition (\uupauies, and the innnuiiities of yacht, cliilw, it was intciulcil U acknowli>dn(< a claim of jurisdiction af^.ainst which llor Majesty's (joviiriiinciil liiul formally protested as conlniry to international law, and which it had nvowcdiy liooii one of th(> main olijccts of the Treaty of 1825 to oxtinguish, is a siim^cstion tim improbalile to rcipiiiv .iny lenn;theucd discussion. Put Ucr Miijesty's (Jovernment did not of course a,u;ii>e to the .Vrlicle willmiil knowinij; what was the exact nature of the privilei;cs tliu.'i excepted from recipniritv, They had rccciv(>d fnnn the Russian Amlms.sador, in l)»!cenilier IHI'2, an expliiiialoiv Memorandum on this subject, of which the t'ollowini' is the [lortioii relating,' to tin IJussiau American Company : — "IV. " Li Cnlllimjinio liiisse-Aliieiii'iiiiii! n le piiviie^'o iVoxju'dier fi'illlfs ilo iliiiit.M: du (Jriiiislinil iitilinii (In liionde ct d'tteUntsk diiiis les I'nlniiii's linsses, les prndiiils Kuhsi'm aiimi i|uu Ids iiuiirliiiiiiliscs ($tViUi,i;olvs doiu les dvnits nnt deji'i i5le pix^eves ; do iiieliie il'iiiii miter iiii reloiir de ei'H (.'olnnii's ilis caipiisniis de pelleteries el d'niitii's prodnils de ees Colniiies, suns ])iiyer iiiienn dmit si d'apivs K? Inis geiu'niles il nest |i:is t'Uilili iriin]H"it )iintii.'iilier iiiterieiiv siir le.s iniiivlmiidised lie pelleterie. '• Oli^rnttidii. — l>'iipn''s lo Tarn" en vijjiunir, riiiipnrlntioii de.s fimrriiruH ilaiis le.s porks iK' St-retorsbourg et d'Arehuiigel, de prndiictiou Unsso fit sur dos vaissuuux Uussos, est lulmiHc suns droits." ni7 I in ciijiiyi'il hv tl In Hiirrly inoD'clilili- that if flic |)rivilf'Kc of flic IJMNsi.iii Aniiiirini ('i»tii|miiy rlid ,.(,iii|iriNi' IV i'IkIiI "f I'XcliKliiif? vc'cicIm frniii n|i|(roM(|iiiii,' wilhin |fM( inilcs ol' the mIihii', il hIi'XiIiI not I'vcti liiivi' iMicn Mlliuh'd In in IIiIh cyiiliiiwiliiin. Nor JM it. iiimMililc lo hkp-c in Mr Minim's vir\t, llml ||ii> i xriii'-idn ,,( lon-i:^!! vi'NW'Ih IV»r n (liHliiiicd of Kill iiiilcH rrnin II (nmt iirimincil in I'l.rcc pi-nilini; lite ni'KiiliiilionN, ntiil in hii I'nr as il, wiim not niodirii'd liy llir lliinvrniiuim. A idaiin of juriMdii'li<in over llic «i|(('n m'a, which \h nut in acc(iidiin(;r wilh 'lie iccoi^ni/.fd nriiiciiilcM nl' inlcrnalinniil l;i\v or imni,'c, may, of conrM", he anM-rtcd hy fori-c, htit cnmiol, hn Hnid lo have any l<'t;al valiilily mm atfuinxt Mic vphhcIm of otiicr conntrii-H, rxri'p' hi w» I'ar as il, in |ioHil,ivfly adinitli'd hy ( 'onvcnlicin/il At,'ii'<'niints w.'lli tlionn '(Hiiilrii'". I do not Hii|»|»oN«' thai il. iu iicccMHary thai I Hhoiild nixm' al, Icnurlh ii|ioii ho rjctiH'iitary a point, an that a claiin lo pndiihil, the vcmmcIs of oilier nations IVoiii a|i|iroiieliint? wilhin n diMlanee of |l((l niileM from the eoaKl. in eontniiy to modern intri'Mlional iiNa^e. Mr. Adatim and Mr. ranniiiL,' elearly llioiiL;lit in IH2'» thai Hie iimtlcr WMH heyond dould. or dinenMMion. Till' nih' whitdi was reeo|^ni/,eil at that. time, and which lum licen i^enrTi My admitted ImiIIi hy pnlili('iHt,M and (lovernnierilH, liinilM the jiiriMdielion of a eoimtry in the ojien Ki'fi 1" a distfUH'e of '.\ niileM from its coasK, Mii't h.-ivint; hi'en euii^idered to he llin riiMK'' '»• " <iainion-Hl!ot. when Hie iiriin^iple was adopted, Wliealon, who may he lei^arded aM a roniemporary aiitliorily, eipially respected in Eiii'oiKt and America, Hayw : — "Tlif liilirililMc li'llilciiy uf rviiy SIjiIi' ('.xIiimI'i In IIji' |ii,iN, Ir.ii Iiiiiii>. Imyi, lijiiiillm nl liviiis, iiinl luliiii'i'til, JiIIiIh III' till' Hcii iiii|iii|iM| liy lii'iiijjiiMil'i lii'|iiii;,'j|p;; In llii' ■;;iiii(i Sidli'. 'I'lii' ;,'CMi'iiil iiHfi^c of iiiiliniin Mii|ii'mi|ilM III tlii'i I'xii'iil III' li'iill'iiiiil jiiiivilii iinii /• iliHliiiii'i' nl' ii iiiiirliii< |i'ii!,'iii', nr im fiilMK II rMMIiiill-Hliiil, will ii'iiili I'lnni llii^ hIhhi' iiIomii nil l,l|i' i'iuihIh uI' llii' Ktiitc." And Mjfftin — " Till' mil' iif liiw (III iIiIm Miiliji'r.t in /rrr"- iliiiiiiiiiiiiii /I'liihir iilii /liiiliir iiniinriiiii rii; iiiiil Hinri' lliii iiilliiiliirlinil III' lil<!-liriiiM lliiil. iIIhIiimm' Iiii'i iiMiiiilly lii'i'ii |i'|.iii^fii/i'i| In lii' ;ilii,iit I! iiiiJi'M liniii tlio dliiiic." ('hniicfllor Kcni, who is intdinnd to advocate a .nore r-xtended limit, Htiil admits lliat:— " Arronliii^ III till' iMini'iii, 111 iiioili'iii (uitlinrity, t.lii' ;;i'ni'i.il lrrii(<iii;il jiMiHiJii'linii cvlciiil-i iiitn tin: si'ii iiH I'lir iiH riiiiiiiiii-Hliiit will rriicli, mill nu l:.rUiiti'; iiiiij lli..s Im (^..Mi'iiiily i;iilculiit<;il In Ik; ii iimiiiK! |('iij:;m'." Calvo, one, of tlio most recent texl-writers, makes a corrosprndint,' Htatement: — "\,i'M jiliiiti'H .juriili(:tii)lilirlli's il'iiii l'!liil i'iiilii;isai!iit, noii .Mriili^int lit -^o'l liMlitniir, liiiiiH I'licnn; li'.'i iMiix i|ni 111 InivrrHi'iit mi ri^iilniiri^lil,, Ii'H |iiiiIh, Ii'H ImirH, Ii'h ^dUi'h, Ids I'ImIidiu liiiriiH ilr.M lli'iivi'M I'l leu iiii'in riiclavi'cM (liui.H ,H(iii li'iriliiiii'. l/iimii^i.' Hi'iH'riil ilos' imlioiiH pi'iiin;! rgtili'iiH nl, fiii.x filiits li'uxcAv.vr ridioliiin Hiir In mhu: iimiiliiiu! jiihiiiiVi ."> iiiillu iimriim on it I* poitoo ilu canon do luurs cote;;)." kiir jiiri Ihit I nood scarcely appeal to any other aiithf)rity than that of the United States' (Jovernmcmt itself. Ill a note to the Sfianish Minister, dated the KJtIi December, 1802, on tlie subject of tlie Spanish claim to a fl-milo limit at sea, ^Alr. Seward stated :— * "A tliinl |)iiii(i|)li' lioiiiiiiK on tlic .'iiilijorl is alsu wuli {;HtiililiHlii!il, namely, thai tliis I'XcIiiiivc 8ov(;I■(ii^;nly of a lialinn - lliiin aliiiii;;ing tlii: nniviTsal lilicrty ot tin' miii.s— oxlMiil-t no faitliiT lliaii till! piiwor of tliii imlioii lo niainliiin il liy foriM', Mlatiiiiii;il on tlio roa.st, cxliniils. Tliis |irin'i|i!i; in Uirsiily ii\|)i'i:HHi',il in liic niaxini : ' Trirn, ilniniiiiuiii Jinilnr nlil Jini/nf nriiinri'-iii i/s-.' " lliil, it niiist iihvny.M lir a inattiT ol' iiiiriTtainty anil ilis|iiiti. at wliiil |iiiint lIu' fmi'i! of amii, I'xcltwl on tlio roast, r.iii iirtnally iimwIi. Tlio iiiililiciHlH ratliiT inlvaii'i'il towanis llian icac.licrl a soliitinn when tliry laiil ilowii tliii ruli; tli.it lliu limit of tin; lortii in tin: ianf.'i' of a laiinnii-liall. Tin; rnnne of a cannon -ball i.s .sliiiit<!r or Ioiikim' aecorrlinjj tii tin; (.irininiKtain^i':: of ])riiJi'Ctioii, aiiij il must Im iilwiiyH liable to cliaiij^o with tin; iininoveiiientof the H(iuni;(-' oI oiilnanii;. .Siii;ii nnnitaiiity ii]ioii a |ii)iiil of jiiriniiietion or Hoveroignty woulil be prodiiotivi! of many ami eii'lless oontrovcrsii's ami conlliutH. A more ]iraelieal limit of national juiisilietion iijimi the high seas was iiiilis|,eiisalily necessary, ami this wa.s i'oiiml, a.s thi; 'Inilersigiii'il tliinks, in lixing tiie limit at '.> miles from the coast. Tiiis limit was early proposed oy the jmblicists of all maritime mitions. Wliile it is not insisteil that uU nations have i ec.eiiteil or aeiiiiie.swd and Ixaind themselves to abide by tlii.s rule when aiiplied to thuiiiselvcs, yet three points involved in the subject are insisted upon by the Unit<jil States : — * Wharton's International Law Digest, vul. i, § 32, jl w p 'i m " t, Tim' iliif liinil liit'i lii'i'ii iii'iii'iiilly icrdtjiiisinl liy iiiilliiim; " '«!. Tint 111. iillii'i ni'iii'iiil mil' Iuim lin'ii in'i'cpli'ii ; iiml ' .'I, Tlih( if nii\ Mhilo Inn mir nii'il In lUiliH loi lUiiJI a !:'iui'i' iniill. IIh^< Iiih Ih'I'm iIhim. liy n,, ("icvfiHii 111' iimilHiiiii |iii\vi'i, iitiil I'tiiinlidili'fi nil i"(i'i'|iliim In lliii ni'iicnil ii)iili'iMliiiiillii|t h lili li'ii,,,, till" I'miyo or i» I'liiiimli filinl (wlii'ii il in linnli' llin Icfil. nf jililiilii'tliiii I iil M iiiili'ii. Mm in'Mnniilv n HiIm I'lllii ilri'ijiliMt, tliiil \Mili'iM I'liiiiiiiiiiily iii'.ii lliii iiHiniiHiliiiiM III' II riiiijni nl' I'liiiiinii hIhiI. iiimI :t umIii^ n<< |ll|lliv|l|(l||(^ III' iMii'li ullii'i III iitiii'i I'lmi'M, (liiiy iimp iIii' liillur ihiIhi'i'Mhii iim it Hiilmliliili. Ini |{,„ ruiiiiiii " Ami in I) li)ti<i' iMiniiiitiiiii'iiliiin <in lli(< hiiiii" hiiIi|im<I nl' llio lOlli Aiij(iihI. jhiih, ltt> oIlWM'Vl'H ; — " Nii\i'l(li.'li"<i, Il I'lililiiil lii> iiilliiKli'il, iiiif iiiiliMiil in Ml' TiiMuiilil iiihIi'IhIiiihI In rliiliii, llml. n,,, moil' iliHi'llinii nl' Il MiiM'ri'iun, liy nn ml nl li'ii.iiliiliiiii, linwiivi'i' mhIi'Iiiii, 'iiII Iiiivi' IIim pIIi'iI, i,, t><<|il 111 it'll mill ii\ il < I'Vli'liiill liiili'iliiiiii iiiil>'ili>'liii|i Hill lifjlil III M jiiili4ilii'l,iiii III' M iiiilt>ii i<i ilniivoil )iiil t'liiiii III! iiwti Mi'i'iin'. lull liniii tliii liiw nl iiiiliiiii'i, Mini I'liiiilM, I'vi'ii lliiiii|ili III' limy iii'Vri liiiv.i (UMi'lilillli'il nv il'V. iiiil il liy illiv I'i'rIVi' nf lli'ililliilinll wIiiiIhih'Vi'I, III' iiilllinl . |iy iI Iiii'H' IIivh,,^ I'Mi'iiil Itii' liiiiil mill IK il III (1 iiiili'M, lii'i'iiiiMi', il' Il mill, III' I'liiilil In llm miiiiH' iiiiiiiih'I, mihI ii{,iiii lliiiti\i"i nl iiili'li"il, iiiiiliili.iii. nr I'Vi'ii ii|iiiii i'ii|iliri'. Ill il nl iO, in ''H, m til) iiilli'M williiiiil llm I'liiimini, oi iii'i|ilii>innii'|i nl' nllli'l- I'nvi'lM wliirti liiivn il I'nlllllinil liijlll Willi liiiiiunH ill llii' I'li'iiilnin iil' nil ||„ ni'c'ilil" Nlli'li II )ili'li'liniiiii rniilil iii'Vi'l 111' Hlli'innul'lilly nl I ijlllH'illly liiiiilililllli'il." 'I'll!' stMiii' |iriiii'i|ili'M uiMi' liiiil <|n\vn 'ii ti, iiiitc (iiIiIi'chhimI Iti Hir (i). 'riiiinilnn jiy Mr. I'"i'i|i, (lion MinMi'dny nl' Hliid", mi (lin '21!nil .liinuory. 1H75, Mr. Kinh llinrn mIhIiiI; '" \\'(> Imvo iilwtiVM nnilci'"!"' (\nil (inmi'iIimI HimI pnrsnnnl (n (inlilii' liuv nn niilinn ciiu riitlillnlly i>l;iin\ jnriKtlii'lion (\( hi'1\ Itnyninl ii niMrini' lonivnc I'nnn (lir rurml." Ill' ilu'u \\on{ un In CNiiInin llin nnly I \vn i'H('i'|iliiinN liiiil wnrc ..|i|iMr('nlly Iuiuhh io liini so lnv MM (lin I'nilril Nliid'H \\v\i' t'lUin'rnt'i! ; ni'iliiin linvi'inic IiIIWm uiijili ;\iiniilli'il ilin Imiinlin^ nl' vi"isi'lH ;il ri ili'^dinnn nl" |. Inn^tU'H Imsn llic imhinI, wliii'ji, |m' N;>i(l, liMil n«vnr Itnon no miiilii'il in |n7in(i<'n iir In ^fivn riHC fit niiin|il(iinl, nn llm |i,ii'i of •.\ t'n>-<M(j;n ({('Vi'iiunrnl ; i\nil !i Trfiily lii'lMcnn llin I'nilril NIiiIi'h miiiI Mcxirn ,:I' \hw in wlnnli (In- ' iniuilMi'V-linn linlwi'cn (lie Iwn SImIi'm wii'i ilc'icrilinil ni lii'i'.iiMinjc in Hii' ()iiU ul' Mcvii'ii, .'( Iru.'Oii'N Trani liutil. Ah ri'i'di'ilN lliii Hti|iiilt limi, lin dIihitvi'iI tliiii i,' liml di'cn ('\}il,'\innil ;\\ llio (inin (lull il nnnlil nnly nll'ci'i (lie i ^flilw nl' Mnvii'ii ,'iiul llu' I tiiloil S'nloH, tnitl \vns noviT inlcndnd In (rnnnh tiimn Mm ri(i!'(M nl' (Irmil lltilniii nr of !\n> ndiov Power miiliM' (lio Invv ol' n;i(iiinH, l( woiiKl soom. (Iiot'oliii'o. (luil Mr. I'lsli wmm onlii'oly iininMiri' ul' (lii> i'\i'i'|iliiin!il jiuiMiiodon m Hohniur's >So,'i, v\ liioli is now snid In liino Ih'oii ciiiu'i'iIi'i! Iiv ill" lliiili'il 8(;»tos (o l\\i'>s>!i Ivoin ls'j;$ to \Si\'!, (raiiKlorroil In (In- rniloil HIiiIon, nh I'dr ns llir Atuonortw oixixl w.-is oonoi'inoil, only oiiilil \o!U'h liolni'o ho «rolo, iiiid wliioli winilil iM'osnmiiMy bo s\\\\ .lolviiouli'ilsii'il by (lioin ns lii'lonf.vinfr In JliiHsin nn llio ANiiilio sliuiv. \ »uus( Miji|ioso Ihiil wliof. Mr. Ulaino s(fi(oH ili,'i( "Imlli llio llnitoil HlnloH iiml (livjil UiiUiiii rooosini'ul. n'N|ii'oloil. nlioyml " (lio I'Kmso nl' |H21. in hii I'lir iv* il ,'illi'i'li'ii Holiriiun'N Si n. In' Ims sonio oviilonoo (n pi ui.nn in ro}j,iinl (n (iio oniidui'l, nl' his v^ninln wliioli is unKnnwii (n (lie world nl liiVfifo, jiiid wliioli lio Iwin mil us yil j>ni.lno(\L Hn( 1 nins( lio allowoil iil(o!^o(lior (o doiiy (liiil Mio nKilndi' ol' (liv;il l?\il;iin \\!\s snoli jo ho ri'jin'.Nonls, nv (li,'i( nIio ovor jidinilloil ])y iicl ni' hy milVcniiiri' tho ox(r!\'>nlin;ir\ . iiiim ot in:-, idnio jnriMliolinn which (hal. I'Kmno ('nndiiiiod. Tho in.'loMM o>>]>i(^s ol' ooirosiuinilonoo. o\lr;io(oii I'liini llio arohivoH nl' lliii Ollici', «\,nko il vovy dillioull (o lioli<\o (l\n( Mr. Hlaino lins nni boon nlln^'lhor Iril iiiliM-nnr, l( \vs\d(8 ('i»»n (iioni (hnl no( only did llor Mnjosty's (JnvonnnonI, I'nrni.'illy prnliNt !«g;»iv.s( (liO rk:\M' on its (h-sl issuo as oonlran In (ho aoK iinw l('d;j;od law nl' iiiiliniis, hut <'';M 'lio Knssi:)u l!\>\on;inoii( g'.'ivo a vorlial assuranoo (lia(. (ho olaini nl' jnrisilirlioii \vo\ild no! W OM^iH'i.'vod. Ill (lio sub'-omiont nognliiiliniiN ^roal iin|iiir(aiMn iviis att;voln\l (o ol>(aiuii\g a mniv formal disavowal of (ho olaim in (ho iiiimin'r least hxjrtful (o Uvissiau su,<oo|'lihili(ios, lm( so as olVrolually to (irooludo i(H n>vi\al. Anil this s<v\iri;y (i»o Hritish l5o\orn\m'n( nndonh(odly onnsidcrod (hat iioth (hey and the I'u'tod ^taios I'.ad ohiainod hy (ho I'oiivoiHiinus o!' ]S2I. and I.S25. V\xm (his jioin( (ho inslruodons givon hy Mr. (Joorgo C\"inninj» to Mr. tSlnitfonl O.-^uninc whou iho la((or was named I'lonipotoutiary to nogntiato (ho Trcaty of 1825 havo ;\ matorial hoaring. Writiug undor dalo (ho Slh l)ooon»hor, l.S'il, iiftor ;i;ivinp a simiiiiary of tlii' r.Ol^1tia(lons »ip to that dato, he ut^os m\ \o say : — •■' li IS iw.uiv.noJv.'ly iiuiilViixnit in us wlu'tlu'V wo Imslon or piLstiinno iiU ijiu'stioiiH n'N|ii'i'liiif; llio liiv.its of toTTitoTiid j'iis,<i .'s'iioii on '.liol'onnni'iit nf Av.'."iii'n,liviUlu! iiivli'ius'ons nl'tlic Uiw.siaii Ukiisoi! l^il. to cvohijivo lioiniiiion om'v tlu' I'luilio. inulil not cimliiiiii! lnn','i'i' uurt'iiualud without coiiijieliiug us to Uk»> stime uie&jun^ of puWii' tmd olfeclu:il rouioiisiranco utjiiiutit iU " Villi will, lliiiii.riri", lulfd Mill' III till' (litl, ImmImii'i' III l('|ri -« ntiy (ill<'iii|i(, y, j/lvn l,lil« clinnKo to llli'i'liiil-ii'li'l' 'if III" lli'lfiilinlli'ii, mill will iImIiiI", willimil. tvv>ivi\ l.liiii. IIim |iiiiiil, (o wliiili iiloiili \,\m niiljcil.iiili' iif III" lliili'ili Uipv"iiiiii"iil,, ;iiii| lliii ji'iiliiiciy iif II. Iliili-ili mitjnti, iiUiicli any I'.rciit iiii|Miiliiiii'" i'l III" ''"I'll! ii'viiy 'i'l "■ iiiiiMiH r MM Mill" iliniiKii'i'iililn Vi IIiimhIh wi |iiriwilili'^ of Mim I'tlwt nl'llli' HI f IH'il, "Tliiit lliifi INiiiMi' in M'll. Mi'li'il ii|ii'ii, mill lliiit, iimlnictliKiH Imiv" Iniii; iii;ii ln'i'ii ni'tit, liy t,|i»i lliiMinn (|i,»iiiiiiiii'iii III llii'li' I'liil/i'i'i ill til" I'lii'illi! Ill niiii|iMiii| llid cKcciilioii iiC ll,» (ir/pviMiKiiB, U l.riiM, Imb ,| iiiivMli' ill''iiviiwnl iif II I'llliliMlii.il I'liiiiii |>i MH ii'.iiiiily ii[;iij|r. . iJi" rii'/iviil iil' Unit, i:liiii(i ; l.liM i,i(ii|ii'ii>ii"li III' III" "^I'liilinii III II |i|illii|)l" liiriy In' |ii'iri'"l|y iiiiiijiiil.ililn lAiilli Uii' "<iril iniic<| fiiiiiiil,iiliaiii!<) l,f Hm' |ililll'l|li" llMI'lf "Til" lii'lil III III" Miiliji'i In 111' IliM Mii|i"ilv In iiiivi;»iiti' fii'il'/ in llic I'licilli' cmiii'it, tid (I'll'l nfl n, iiiiill'T 111' iiiiliil!!"iii'" rimii liny I'hwi'I. Iliiviii'; imn ln'i'ii piililii ly iiiU'ilioiK 'I, it. iiin'il, li" piililicly l|r|il|o\v|i'il!!"il. " \Vi' i|ii ii'ilr ili'Mil" tliiit. miy ili'ilinil. ii'li'ii'iii" hIihiiIiI lie niiiil" l,(i IIh' I/'I<mi(i nf |i!^l , lull, Wf do |'i.('| it. iii'ii"i'Mirv tliiil till' 'iliili'iipi'iit. iif line rii'lit iilmiilil li" (li'iir miil iinMi'iv", iin'l timl. it. nliKiil'l (liiml I'l.illi III llii' < 'iiiivi'iili'iii III lliii |iliM I' v/liii li |i|ip|ii'ily In'I'xiK't In it. iin ii (ilitin mul Miilmt(int,iv') iilj|,iiliiiiiiii, mill nut. Ii" liiiiiiiilil in ii'i mi iii"ii|"ntiil <• inm'i|iii'iiiii ••! (il.lier mriinivniiiilM to wlii/li w<i iiltiii'h I'liiiil'iiiiitivi'ly lillli' iiii|iiiiliiiii'" "Tiii'i (ili(iiiliili"ii mIiiihI'i ill III" i!iiinl. 'if III" • 'iiiivi'iiUnn MiihIihIi'iI Ii('I.W"< l.'ii'miii (iri'l tlif) I'liiiiij Hliiti"! Ill' Aiiii'ii'ii, mill WM u"" (III iciiiun wliy, iijiiin niinilni i liii'ii'i, wi ^li'iiiM not, (ilif.difl i.?iiilly III" lili" iiiili'iriiilinn " ji'iir I" ii't III' III" Miiniii (iiil.iirn iv" ''miinil. 'nii'ti'iil. tliiit, l.lic lilicity >il' niiviij.it.i'ifi t.lir'rtlf^ll llnliliii!!'! Hlniil'i hIhiIiIiI Ih' ntiil,"i| in tlm 'I'lMity mm h liiniii I'ioki lliiiniii. "Til" li'iiili'iii'V III iiiicli II iitiili'mi'iil. wiiiiM 111' In ifiv" ".'iiint'niiii'c l/i timi;" i liiinm nf i /'■limivo iiiri'iiiii li'iii hiiiiIiihI. wliiili wii, nn niir nwn lu'lnilf mi'l on lliiit. nf t.lii' wIkiIm ' ivili/'i'l Wifl'l, pr')*';'!!.. ♦ • • » • • " It. will nf ciiiiiR" Htrik" III" lliiii'iiiin rii'ni|iiit"iit.imiMi l.liiit,, liy l.li'i (I'l'itil.inii (if t,lp() Affi'iriMiri Ailiil" r"H|i""lin|.Miiivi!'iiliipn, ("^1' . tlii> iiin'/i'iinn inr mm ixcIuhIvh (litliMiy of 2 tcm^^ii'is frfini l,h«) (Xifwts (lI'llHI |l"l(ll'l'livi' |llltl«inllillll'l fllllM 1.0 till' |/POIIMl|, " lliil. til" iiiiiiiiMiun ii), lip truth, iiniipiitj'iiipl. "Til" liiw 111 iiiitioii'i iiHMijoi'i III" "xiliiiiv" «ovi'i('i|oil.y 'il' I l''iii;ii'i l/i «■»' li l'o//<ir off itt oven iiiiisIm, tt it Ipiiiit miy H|i"iilli'i| Hli|piiliiliippi, ippiil l.lpoiiyip .Sir C;|pii(I"m r.ip).;i<t, wiw i)iit,lporl/,'''l l/i «i[Op tip'i I'liiivi'Piliiiii with III" "ipi'i iti" fit.i|iiiliitioii of 2 li'iij/iiiM, in iynmnn'", ol' '//Ipiit, |p;p/| liciri 'I'/i'lcl in t.tid iliiii'iiripn Ciptivi'iitinn lit. till' liippi', vi't., hIIit I.IpiiI '.'onvention liiii lii"'ii vnin: Irlont.|p^ Iri.for'! Mm WitI'I, mill iilliT till ii|i|iuitpiipity 111 ti'MinililiTiplion |p|p^ lii'irp fur""'! njioip nn liy t.lpc net of f.'iniitt li'TS'lf, wn niiiii'il iinw roii'ii-nt, ill n"^;',t iiit iiij; ilii iiiirii, to 11 at.i|inliil.jon wlii' li, wliiln II, i'4 itiiaoliit'-ly nnirn[t'/rt<)rif, III liny I'lmlii'iil i;iioil, v/oniil ii(i|ii'iir In (•■il.iplili'ili ii. cunt,! net, lii't.v/ccn l,lp" I.'int.'i'i Ht,(il,Mi mi'l im t/> onr ili'imlviiiitipi;"." Mr. HLrnirtinl (!fi(inin!<, in liiw (icHpfil,* li of Ui« lot, March, lH2'i, ind'tsing tho Coiivciil.ittii iiH Ni^^nofl, wiyH : — ''WpIIi ri"!)iiM I til I'.i'lipiniMi .-ilinlt'i, I mip lin|i|ry to lifivo II, in my [lowr !/< nwiri- ym on tfp/r ynni aullimily 111' tli" ltii>i".i(Pip l'li.|ii]iol.i'iil,iiiiic:i, ilml. tin' l'',ni|i<Toi of lfii.;Tia liii'i no iiit,<'nt,iofi v/ipfit/'v r of I iiiiiiliiiiiiiii; liny I'xrlni'ii'i' ilmni In lli" Miiviijipl.ion of t.ti"'!/; Htrail,M, or of t.li". <v;;in \/> t.hii nortii of tliiiiii.' l*f HUuiiiifiry (if the TIh'wo ("xl.niclM hIiow «vin<'liiHivc|y : (1) t.huf. Ivri^latid rtifiiw'l t/i ;wlrriit, any \ifirf, of till' HiiMHiiiM flniiri (w.m'rf<'tl Ity l.hc \lhtiw- of iHiil io a rnaritifrif! jiirit'lirfion ari'l i'X('lii'.iv I'iijlil. Ill' llnliiiii^ Ihrnii'/li'iiit. Ww. vvlioji! (ixt.cnt, of Hint, flairn, from i'tf\inri<^'n SlriiilM to lliii TiImI. piiriiijcl ; (2) thnt tli<' (>)ri v(^rifi'»n of IH2r» w.'m r<'<^ur(\i:(\ on tiofli si'li's (IS II n'niiiici!i.li'iM on lit" purl, 'il I'lmtin. iif tli,'it, cinirn in it.H fut'irfty ; nri'i C'5) Iliiit tli'iii|.?li Mi'lirin^'M Hl.niilH wiim l<nown jiikI H[)('ci(l(^;illy jirovi'h.d (or, J5<;lirifi^'s H';a was Mill known hy Mint nuinc, lint, wan n-j^firdtid fi« part, of tli", I'fu-ifi'; 0';«;an. Till- jiiiHWiT, tlificforr, (,o t.lic ()iicstion'( wiMi wliirili ,\Ir. i'lainr-, f/,ui:\iii]fA his (l('KI)iit('li \H that. Hit .Majrst.y'H (iovfTnnicrit, havt; alway^ clairpc'l t.h'; fr'-'.-'lom of imvi|,';iti()n fiii'l llHJiini^ in llir watfiiv fif Miiiiriri'^'M .Sea oiit^iiU; Mk; imnal f/:rTif,orial limit, of 1 nitirinc, h'lujiii! from t,li(^ const; t,hat, it in irfi[K)^Hihlc to admit tiiat a puhiio rii,'lil (o IIhIi, (rntoh HcalH, or piirHuc any otlic.r hivvful occupation on tho hiijh w-as can he hchl (o he. ahMndonctI Jiy a nation fmrn the rncrc fact that (oj a (xtt&'iB lUitnhiM' of ycai'H it. linn not Miiitcd the Hiii(jf!ctH of that nation to cxcrf:i.s<; it. It innst Ix^ rciiicmhcnul that Hritish Coliirnliia has cornr; into fxistencc a-* a Colony at a contpanitivcly rcct^nt date, anrl that thr; first c^nsirlorrihlc int'lux of population, Hotnt! thirty years a^o, was duo to ttu! diwiovery of tfold, and did not tend ti)!iM imiiiediatc develi,[im(!nt of the shipfiiii'^ intenrst. i liiive to I'etiuesl th.'it you will eoirunnnieate a eopy of this despatch, and of its iiiciosures, to Mr. Hlaine. Von v. ill state that Jler .vtajcsty's Government hare no (Iciirc whatever to refiis(! to the United IStat<-H any jurisdiction in IJ^ihrinfj's S*.-** which \va,s concodeil by Croat liritain to Russia, and wliich pnjpcriy a-cx-Tues to the present n2o imsRosKorn nf Alnnkn in vidiio ol' 'IVonlii'H or \\w Inw <if iiiilinnN; nml Hint if n,,, Vnid'd SImIcs" (Jtivcnuiionl, Ml'lrr ('xiniiiiuHiim ul' 1,lii> rvidnnoo nml nrf^umoiilH wlii,.], t Imvc i»ni(liict'(l, still (liiVor I'luni Uhmii kh to (ho itwilily oi' ilio riHiciil (>ii|ihii'CH in thiit wii, tlii'j iii't' n>ii(ly to jifjn'f "uil (In' mii>8(itni, with llio isHUCN (linl, il(»|irii(i ujion i(, nIio\iI(I Im< rriVrn'ii In iiiiiiMrtiiil ailiitt'iilinn. Viiii will in lliii<> rimo lii< aiiliiiiri/.nl t) (Hnmidcr, in I'tmciMl, vvilli (Sir. Uliiiiit'. Ilu' nicllmil ol' pnHMMliirt' to l»o followed. i iini, &{\ (HiKMod) HAMHHIMIY, hu'loHiirc I in No. •Wi, l.oni l.oiiiliiiiilirii/ III Ciiuvl l.ii'vvn. i'oiriijii (}//iin, .hiitiiary |H, |H'2l!. 'I'lll'j l'iid<'rsiijni>il liiis tlio limiour licrcliy lo nt'KiiowliMli;c |Ih> nod' iKiiliv.,,.,! (o liiin l>_v HoiHin dc Nicoitii, ol' tin- r„Mli Novrnilicr IhhI, covi'riiifr n vwy^' of tin I'Kjim' issncd liy His Iin|ii'rifil M.-ijcslv lln' l'jn))i'i'ni' ol' All (lie lliiNsifis, iind lii'iirinjj; dnti' llic ■t(li Si'nlcnilu'r, 1S'2I. I'm' v.'M'ious imm'Iioscn (licri'in scl I'orllt, ('N|H'i'inlly (mmuh'cIimI willi tlu' Icrriloi'ifil riiiM.s ol' lii'< Crown on llic norlli-wcNicrn coiinI ol' Anit'vicii lionlciin;^' njxiii llic I'jii'illf, .-nid (lie coninn'rcc find niivi^iilion ol' His lin|K>riiil Miijfsly's nmIijciIs in (Iu> seas !idi;i('i'n( llicri'lo. This dot'wnirul, oontaininif Ht>ii:nl!ilioiis oi' f^rcnt cNlont and imporlMnct', IkiIji iii it.s (I'rrilorial an<l n\at'ilinio li(<iirini>s, lias liccn considorrd with Iho iitnioHt alicnlion, nnd wi(h Ihosi' ravoinvildc scnliincnls which His Majcslv's Oovi'rnnicnt alwM_VN jjcnr towards the .'ids (d'.'i Slaii' with which Mis Majrsly has Iho salisl'iiclion lo I'ccI liimsclf »'onni'cl('d hy (he most intiinalo liis ol' rrii'ndshi|) and allianci', and haviiif^ Ikmmi rcl'cn'cd I'or ihc Kcport oi' (hose hiivh h'ii;al anthorilics whose <lnty it is to advise Mis Majesty on sneh mailers, the llndersii;ned is direeled, till sueii friendly explimMlidus ean lake place helween the (wo (iovi'rnnien Is as niav ohviale Miisundcrslandinir ii pmi so delicate and iinporlani a poitd. to make snch provisional protest ii|4;ainst Iheeimcl n'.ents of the said I'k.'ise as may I'nily serve to stive Ihe ri;i;hls id' His Miijesly's Cn and m;»y protect Ihe per.' d properties of His Majesty's siihjeets (rom molcNliil mil, inn in the exercise of their lawful calliiiLTs in I hat ipiartcr of the i^hdi Tlie l'ndersii;ncd is eoinniandcd to acipiaint Count liieven thai, it heiiiu; llic Kinsr's consl.'inl desire to resiiecl .and c;inse lo he respected hy his snhjecls, in llic fullest miuiiicr. Ihe Mnipi ror of IJnssia's just rijAlils, His .Majesty will he ready to enter into .amic.ahle expl.anations upon Ihe interests .•ilVected hy this instrnnient, in siieli manner as m;iy he most acceptahle to His Imperial Majesty. Ill the nu'.'intime. upon Ihe snhjcci of this I 'kase i^enerally, av.t especially iiiioii the (wo main principles of claim l.-iid down (herein, vi/,., an exclusive soven'ii;iilv alleged to heloiiL; to Unssi.-i over the lerritoiir-s therein descrihed, as also the exclusive riu'ht o'^ navii;atiiii; and tr.-idini:; within the maritime limits therein set lorlii. Mis Urit.'innic M;ijcsty must he loiderslood as lierchy rcserviii}^ all his rifi;hls, not liein;,' prepared to admit that the intercourse which is allowed on the face of this instnnneiit to have hitherto subsisted on those coasts, and in those seas, <'nn he d cemcd to lie illicit ; or w that 11 ic sliips o dlv I owers, even supposini^ an nnq niuiualitled soverei'Mitv as jiroved lo a|)pcrt;iiii to the linpcri.al Crown, in these vast and vcM'y impcrl'eclh occupied terrilorii's, could, hy the ackiiowledit'cd law of nations, he excluded fnnii navii;atin!:: witliiu the distiiiice of 100 ll.'dian miles, as Ihcrein laid down, I'rdiii Hie coast the exclusive dominion of which is assumed (hut as His M.-ijesty's (iovcriimeiil conceive in crntr) to helont,'to His lmperi;il Majesty Ihe I'lniperor (if All the l!iissi:is, (iSigiicd) LONDONDI'IHIIV, 5S1 InoldHuro 2 in N(i. W\i. Mfmtiriinihiin hij l/iv Diikf of \Vrlli)tiiUni.--(^i']tlvmlii'i II, IH22.) IN tlif (MiiirHo III' ». cKrivfrMiiliiiii wliii-li I luiil yi'Mlciflay willi ('(Hinl liicvrii, lie jiifoi'iin'il lli'if' I"' '">•' l"'<'M fiinM'Icil Id (^ivc vci'luil cxiilMMiilioris ol' llu' rkiitc rcM|HTliii^ lliii iiiiilli-vvcslci'ii I'liiisl. 'rl' yNincricii. 'riicsc ('\ |)liimili<nm \v<'iil, ln' hmIiI, I<i IImh, llial. till' |'!iii|"'ri>r flid nut |ir(i|iim(i )(i ciirrv inln CHfciiliuii IIk^ liKdMc in \\h cxti'mlcd m^riHi? ; lliiil lli^ lm|H"ri.'il MmJi'kIv'n slii|iM liiid lici'ii (lirccjcil In rnii/,c ni tlii^ Hlidi'lfNl, |l(l^^i|||<^ disliiiii'i' IVoDi tlio Hliin'f, in ni'ilrr U\ HU|i|ii,v Mm' iwilivcH willi iii'inH iumI iiniinUMilinn, iiikI ill iii'(l)'i' III wni'M till vi'hhi'Im tliiil Unit wiih IliM lni|H'i'iiil Mn ji'Hly'M iloininion, nnil lliiil IIIm lm|M'rinl Mjiji-Mly Imil licHidcs i^ivi'ii (lii'cclionM lo IiIm MiniNlfr in llic llnitcd Sliili'N III ii|;rri< ii|iiiii ,'i 'ri'i'iil.,V III' I'iinilH with liic llnili'il Htnh^H. r ' IrmloHiin^ .'J in No. ;tH2. » '1 Mr. (I. dmnihn/ In l/if l)ulir nf IVrlHiii/loii. My l/'I'd l'l'l<«% h'orrit/n ()//irr, Svplrmhn 27, IH22. Yn|!|{. Oriicr in (ilrciidy in |)(WMCHMi(in ol' nil tliiii Iuim |i/isHcd Ixilli here nnd at. SI, I'l'liTNliiir^^li, fin tJic Hiil>icct, ol' tlic i.Hmic, in Hi'|ilt'inl)cr of Inut, yciir, liy tln' l'iiri|icror III' KiiNsiii. ol' Mil IlkiiNc, indinMdIy (iHmTlin^t "n ixrliisivc riiflil. of sovcrcij^nt.y from Hi'liriii«:'N Htmit.H to I lie, uIhI, dcunv id' north Intitiidc on the wcnI roiiHl ol' Anii-iirwi, nnd to till' irdli di'i^ri'i' noi'lh on llii! o|i|iositiM'Oiist ol' \Hh\\ nnd frm « (innliUfd cxiTcim' of Hint. I'ii^'lil) prohiliitinj^ all I'liridi^n Nlii|m, under iiiiiii of roidiMc.'ition, I'l'oni ii|)|)ro!irliint( Hilliiii l<M» lliiliiin niiii'M id' tJiosi- roriHlH. This ilkiisr having ln'''" ("itniniiiiicati'd hy Haroii Nirolai, tin' ItiiNHian (Ihari^'i'- d'Atrairi's at. this (!oiirt., to Hit VlajcMt.y'H (Jovcni- iiicat, was rorlliwilii unlimilti'd to tlii^ li-|j;al a.iitliorit.ici wIiohi? duly it. is t.o advini! His Miiji'Kly "11 Hiirli maUi'i'H, and a. note was in i'oiiNi'(|itfni'c addifsHrd hy lliclatc Maripiiw (if l/iiiidondi'i'i'y toOonnt. Lii^vrn, tlir It.iiHhian .\niliasH;<diir, and also cotniniiMiiwili'd to IIJn MajcHl.y'H AnihuNHadoi" at. Hi. j'ldi-i'.shiirf^li, iiroti-stinLj a!.jaiir.f Ihi' <'nai'ltni'nlH of fhf said I'kiw', and nM|ni'stin(< siirli ainirahli- cvidan.'itionH ai ini^'hf l.iind to ri-conrili- the, |irrtciisiiiiiM of ItiiHsia, in thnt. (|ni!itiT of the t,Hohc with Ww. jiml rit^hts of llin Maji^Hl.y'M CidWii and t.ho int.rn-HtN id' Ihh Hiihjrrt.H. ,\m smdi i-xplanalions will pioiiahly In; olfr-n-d Id your (iracn diirini; IIk- (JonfiTcnrcH ahiail to taku plai'i- ;il Vii'iina, I hastirti f.o sii,'ail'y to yon tin- Kinfj;'H noniiriandH t\'^ to tlii' lan!.^iia^'i' wliiidi yon will hold on thn |iarl. of IMh MajcHty npon ihiH .snhjiMd. Till! opinions i,nvi>n in Novcnihin' and DiM'iTiihi'i' last hy Lord Htovvidl and hy His Majesty's ,\dvorati'-<Jiini'ral (ropii-H of wliiirh are already in your possession) will I'nnii'^li y>Mi with tliii hi-Nl ie^iil ari^iinientH in opposition to the prelensions put forward ill till! Itiissian I'kaso; and, as in hotli these o[(ini(His iniieh stress is very jiropeily lairl ii|i(Hi the Kt.ate of aetiial oeiMipalion of the territories elaiiried hy Itiissia, and th ilin'ereiit. periods of tiinii at whiidi they were ho oeenpied, I have ohtained from Mie (iiiveriior of t.lii' prineipai (.'onipany of His Majesty's siihjeitts tradiri;,' in that, part. Ill' the world the information wliieh your (Jraee will find in llie inelo^ol papers. 'I'liat. information will enahh- yon Huniidently to prove to the Itnssian Nlinisler. not. iinly tliat, the point of prior dise.oviM'y niay he fairly disputed with liiissia, hut that the miieli more (icrtain fith; of actual occupation hy tho .itceiits .inil the t.radini,' servants of the Hudson's Hay (Jotnpany extonds at. this moment lo many dei^rees id' hit,'lier latitndo on the north-west coast of .Vnierie.a than is riainied as the trrritriry of Kiissia hy the I'kase in ipu'stion. l';iilij,'htoned statesmen and jurists have Ion;; held as insii^MiirKtant all title-, id' territory that aro not founded on actual occupation, and that title is, in the opinion of tlioniost esteomed writxirs on pnldic law, to hoestahlished only hy |Mactie,'il use With respect to this otlu'r points in the Lkase which havr; the elfeet of extcndinf; till! territorial rifj;litH of I'lissia over Ihi adjacent seas to the luiinceedentiMl distance of 100 miles from, ilio lino of coiwt, and of elo.iin<,' a hitherto uiiohstructed passai,'e, at the prt'sont momont. tlio (d)jcct of important discoveries for the promotion of 'general eommurco anil niivigiition, these pretensions are consiilcred hy the hest lei,'al authorities &8 positive innovations on the rif^lits of navigation; as such they can receive no explanation from fnrtlier discussion, uor can by possihilit y ho justilied. Common usji|ije, which has L128J 3 X 'ii fh ; 622 obtained tho foroo of law, Ins iiult'cd assigned to coasts and slioros nn nopogsoria] bonndary to a siiort limited distance I'or purixtsesol" |)votec'li(>n and i^eneraleonvciiicnf^ in no manner interlevinfj; with tiie rij^lits ol' otiiers, and not olislrnctini; tiic IVecddiii oj general eonnneree and navigation. lUit tliis important (jiialilication the exlcni of (],f, present elaim entirely exi'liules, and wlien siu^li a in'oliihition is, as in the present, caso ap]>lied to a 'ong lini; of eoasts and .-iKo to interi'udialc! islinuls in reniot,' seas, \\],,.ff, navigation is heset with innunieralde and miroresecMi dillienlties, and \\]wir, tho i)rinei[)al eni[)loynient, of the lislieries iiuist !)(> jmr^ned nndor eirciimsfanei's wliicJi are meonipatihle witli tin' pveserihed eonrses', all pailicnlar eonsiileralions cunciir, in an espiH'ial manner, wil-li the general priniMpie, in repelling sneh a ])rr|i'iisi(iii as an (Mieroaehment on the IVeedom ol' iia\igation. and Hie nntilienahle riLilits df ;i|i nations. I have, indeeil, the satisl'aetioii to hclieve, i'rom ;i enni'ereiiee which I have Jiail with Count Lieven on this malt(>i', that upon thes<! two jioinis - the attempt tDsimt up the passage .'d together, and tho elaim ol" exclusive dominion to so enormous a distance iVom the coast — th(> llnssian (iovcri\inent are ])re])are(l entirely to waive lliHr pretensions. The only elTort that, has been made to justify the latter elaim m;is liv reference to an Arti<'le in the Treaty ol' Utrecht, whicli assigns ;i() h>agiies Ihnu ihl. coast as the distance of ])r(diil>ition. Unl to this argnmeid it is siillleient lo auswxa' that tho assumption of sneh a sjmee was, in the instance f|noted, by stipnlatieu in a Treaty, and one to which, therefore, the party to he alVeeled hy it had (whelhcr wisdv or not) given its deliherate consent. iS'o inference eonld he drawn I'rom that tr;ins;K'tioii in favour of a cdaim hy authority .-ig.'iinst ail the world. I li;tV(^ little donhl, therefore, hut that the pnhlie notilleation of the elaim to consider the jiortions of the ocean included hetween the adjoining coasts of AiiU'iica ami the Russian I'.mpiro as a miiyf rlniixam, and to exteinl the exclnsiv<> leriitiirial jurisdiction of Uussia to KM) Italian miles frmn the coast, will ho pnhlicly it'callnl; and T Innc tlu> Kini^'V eomnnnds tu ii\str!iet your (irace further to reipiire ol' the Kussi.au Minister (on the ground of the f;iets and reasonings lurnished in lhis(i(N|iatcli and its inelosiu'(>s) that sneh a portion of territory .-done shall he detined as heloiisin:; to ]{ussia as shall not iuterfer<" with the rights and ;ictual jjossessions of His .Majcstv's suhjeets in North AuuM'ie.'i. [ am, &o. (Signed) UKO. CANMNti. Tnolosure 4 in No 3R2. Mevioriniilitm on l\us I'hi.-r f)(lS2l. •tor TN the month of Septemher 1^21 Mis hn|)erial .Majesty the I'lnipenn- of Itiissia issued an l;'kas(> asserting th(> existence in the Crown of Uussia of an exclusive visrlit of sovereignty in the countries extending from Mehrinu;'s Stnnts to th.; .">Isl deL;rriM)l north latitude on the mc^I coast ot Ann-riea, ;ind to thi> l.'ith (legre(> ol north latiluilo on the op|>osiie coast of Asia ; and. as a (|uaiilied (>x<'rcise of lii.il riuiit e'' sover('i;,'nt\-, ]>rohihiting all foreign vess(ds from ap|>roii(diing within lOD Italiiin miles ,.i llioso coasts. After this rkas(> had lieen suhmilted hy the kinu;'s (iovernnuMit to those li';'i>l authorities whose duty it is to advise His .M.ajesfy on such in.-itters, a note was addressed hy the late .M:\r(]uis of Londomlerry to Coni\t Ijieven. the Russian Aiiilias- sador, protestiui,' against the enaclnn'uts of this I'kase. and reciuesting such aniicahlo explanations as might tend to r<'concile the ])reteusions of liussia in that (luaitor of the globe with the just rights of His M.ajesty's Crown ;nul the interests of Jiis subjects. "Wo object, llrst, to tiie eiaim of sovereignty as set forth in this Ukase; ami, secondly, to tho mode in which it is exorcised. Tho best writers on the laws of nations do not attributo the exclusive sovereiiinty, particularly of contiuiMits, to those who have lirst discovered them ; and ;dthoii|;li we might on good grounds dispnie wiili Uussia ilie prim-ity of discovery of these continents, wo (contend that lli(> much nnn-e easily ])rov(>d, more conclusive, and niw certain title of ooeupation and use ouu'ht to decide the (daim of sovereignty. Now, wo can prove that tiie Knglisii Nortli-VVest t;omi)any and the iliulsnii's Hay iJonipany have for many years ostahlished forts ami other trading-stations in a country called New Caledonia, situated to the west of u range of mountains ciillwl 623 Rooky Mountains, and i^xtondin^ ulonsj the shores of the I'aeiflc Ocoan from latitude ^f to liititudo (50°. •|'Iii> Company iiivowise possess factorifs and oilier estal)lishments on Mackenzie's River, wliicli falls into tlio Kra/.er I'iver as lar north as latitude (!()" 150', from whence tJipy t'ai'i'V on trade with the Indians inliahitinL,' tin- countries to the west ol that river, and who. from the nature of the country, can communicate with Mackenzie's Rivrrwith more facility than they can with the posts in New t'ah'dcmia. Thus, in iinnosilioii <o the idaims founded on discos ery, the priority (jf which, howcvc'r, we coui'i'ive we niii;iit I'airly dispute, we have the inilispntahio claim of occupancy and use lor a serif>s id' yi>ars, whieli all the hest writers (in the laws of nations adniit is the l,Pst-founded claim for territory of this dcscrii)tion. Ohjccitinj;;, as we do, to this claiiii (if exclnsivi! sovereii^nty on the part of itnssia, 1 inii^ht save myself the trouhle ilisciisr^iii!,' the particular mode of its exercise as set I'ortli in this Ukase. But oliicct to tlu! sovereignty proposed t(i he exercised under fiii.s Ukase not less than lo to the claim of it. We cannot admit (he rii^lit. of any I'ower jjossessiui? the sovrrci^'uty of a eoniitrv lo exehid(! the vessels ot otlieis from the seas on its coasts to tlu' distance of 100 Italian miles. \\ C must ohject likcwis(^ to the arraiigenu'uts fDiittdncd in IIk; said Ukase conveying; to private merchant-ships tiic riu;ht to searcdi in lime of peace, itc., wiiieli are quite eoutrary to tlu; laws and usages of nations luul to tJii'piacUce of modern times. (Signed) ]'iT()ii(i, Oclolitr 17, 1^22. To Coinit Nesselrode. (II ivc ( WELLINGTON. inclosure 5 in No. 382. CuHiit Nesfielrodf lo the Duke of WclUuijIon. (.M('Ma(iire Conlidentiei.) Vvrnnc, Ic 11 (23) Norembre, 1B22. \jV, Caliinetde INissie a pris en mure consideration Ic ^I ('moire Conlidentiei qnc )|. if Due (h' WellinLcliin lui a reiuis ie 17 Oeiolirc dernier, relativ(Mncnt anx mesures luliiptees ])ar Sa .Majest('' I'l'lmpereur. sous la date du (I) l(i Se|)ti'ml)re, ls21, pour ilcli'i'Mn'ner r(Hendne des pessessions I'lisses sur la e(Me nord-ouest de r.\nu''ri(jue, et piiiH' iiiterdiri" aux \aisseiiux etranj!;ers Tapproelie dt> ses possevsidus iMs(]ir;''i la distance (le KHMuilles d'ltalie. Les (invert in-es i'.-iites a ee sujet an (.louvernemeut de Sa Majeste nritanni(]ne ]iai' Ic Comtc de liieven an moment oil cet Amhassadeur allait (luitter Londrcs (loivcnt deja avoir prouve (\\\r I'dpinion (pie 1(> Cahinet de St. .lames avait con(;ue des mesures (hint il s'ai;it n'etait [loint f(iM(l(''e sur line appreciation enti(""r(>ment exactc des viios (le Sa .Majesli' Impi'-rialc. \a\ ltussi(> (^st loin de na'connaitre que riisau;e et I'occiipation constituent la jilus Milide d(>s titres d'apri'^s li>s(iuels nn !''tat piiisse rcelamer des droits de souveraincte siinine portion (lueleonque du Continent Jjji Russie est plus loin encore d'avoirvoulu mitivpasser arhitraireuuMit les limites ipie ce (itre assif^-ue a >-cs domaines sur la ci'ite mml-diicst de TAnu'-riipie, on ('rin(>r en )irii:eipe i^t'-iu'-ml de droit ma;'itime les ivj^les i|ii'ime necessitt'- puremeiil locale I'avail oliligt'c de poxT pour la iiavii;ation etrany;^rc linns le voisiiiai^e de la ])artie de c(>tte ei'ite (pii lui appartient. O'etait an c(mtraire ])arce qu'(dl(> rcfjardait ces dndts de sonveraineti" comme feitinies, et parce (pie des eonsidi'-rations imperieuses tenant a rexistence memc dii CDinmcrce (pi'dle fait dans Its paraires de la c(')te nord-ouest de rAmeri(jue, la foi(;aient ;i I'talilir im systt'^me de pivca lit ions deveniK^s indispensahlcs, qii'idle a fait paraitro rOukase du (I) 1.(5 Septemhre, 1H2U liii ilussic serait (oujonrs prete a laii(> pari des motifs (pii en justitient les ilispiisilions ; mais pour Ic moment (die se iHirnera anx ohscrvations siiivantes:— iM. le Due d(> Wtdlini^ton allirme, dans son .Mt'-moire C'ontidentiel dii 17 Octohre, i|ue (It's t'tahlissements Aiiiilais, appartenant a deiix Coni])a^nies, celle (li> la Baye de Hudson et celle du Nord-Ouest, se sont I'tn'mt'-s dans iine eontree a]>pelt'e la Nouvelle- Cnledonie, (jui s'ctend le Ioiilt de la cote dc rOci'-an I'aciliipie, depuis Ic W jusqu'au 60' dogrc de latitude septcntrionale. la I'uissie jie parlcra i»oiiit des etahlisseincnts (pii |)eiivent t>xistt>r (>ntre le t!V ct Icrd' paialltMe; mais tjuant anx aiitrcs, elle n'ht'sitc jias de eonvenir tpi'elle en ignore jusqu'ii pivsont rexistence, pour autant au inoins qii'ils (oiudieraient TUccan I'acitiquc. Les Cartes Aiiglaises m6me les plus recentcs et les plus detaillees n'indiquent [18] 3X2 '•■' \l I * 1 •i . '' i KvIj Hhs ' r ! 1 if Ji( HI , 1 A 524 absolumcnt auouno dos stations do cimuiierco montionn(5os dans lo Mrinoiie ilu 17 Octolm', siirlii ciMc iui"iu(> dc rAint'iitiiic, cntro lo 51' ol lo CiO'' dogvo dc lalil»(|,. si'iitc'iitrioiinlo. D'liilU'urs, dcpuis It-s cxiu'ditions do Holiniii; ot do Ttdiirikofr, «!'ost-ii-diro dcpuis l>r«is d'uii sicVlo, dcs i'tal)lissonioiits Uusscs out |»ris, ii partir du 00" dofi;iv, imo extension lu-OLfirssivc, (|id dtV rainu'c 170!) I<'s iiv;ut I'liit |nirv»Miir jusciii'au oo" pamllMo, fominr |r portc la |)rciui»'>ro oliarto do la Coiui)Mt!;iiic Jlusso-Ainorioaiiio, oliart(! i\m a r(!(;u danslc toinjjs mio publioito ollioiollo, o( (|ui n'a motivo auomio prolostation do la part dt; rAiijTlotono. (>t(o inoiiio oliarli! acoonlait a la (JompafJtnio llusso le droit do poHcr scs «ital)lissomonts vers l(> niidi an dola du 55' doi!;rc do latitudo soptcntrionalo, |)oui'vu (pn; do lols aooroissonuMils di" tori'i(oin< no pussout douuor niotil' do rotdanuitiou a aiiciiiic i'uissaiu'o otrauf^oro. l/AnijIotoiTo u'a pas uou plus in'o(oN(('' ooulro ooUo disposition; olio n'a pas mniu' mdamo contro les nouvoaux ('(ahlissoiuouts (pio la Conipa^iiio ISusso-Amoficaiiic a |m i'ornior an sud du 55' dou;ri'', oil vortu do ro priviloi^o. La JJus.sio olait dono ])lointMuoiit aulorisoc a prolHor d'un conscnitoniont (pii, pour Hiv (acilo, u'on ('-(ait jias uioins soloiiuol, o( a in-tonuinor pour bornos do sos doniaiiiis lo doyio do latitudo juscpi'auipu'l la Conipai^nio Husso avait otondu sos operations dopuisl7»n. Quoicpi'il en soit. of (pioUpie lorco ipu' I'os oireonstauoos protciit au\ litres (k' hi Uussio, Sa Alajesto linjii'iialo no doviom point dans cotto oonjunoturc du systenn' babituel do sa politicpio. Lo pronii(M' do sos \(enx sora ton jours do provonir touto discuission, otdo ('onsolidiir do ])lus on plus ios rapports d'amitio et do parfaito iutoUigcnoo (jn'olle sc lelieiti' d'ontrotonir aveo la Cinindo-Hrctagno. En conso([uenoo I'l-lniporoin' a oliarj^o son Cabinet d(! docdaror h il. le Due dc Wellinii'lon (sans quo ei'tte doelaration ))uisse prejudioior on rion a sos droits, si idli' ji'otait point aeotipieo) <pi'il est pivt a Uxor, au luoyen d'line ni'';4;ooiation aniieaie, tt sur la base des <'onveuanees nuitnelles, les doi;Mvs do latitude ct do longitude que les doux I'uissances I'o^arderont ooninie dernieres limites do buirs jiossossions ot de leiiis otnblisseir.onts sur la oot-o iu)rd-ouest de TAnu'-ricpic. Majeste [nqxMTilo se plait a oroire (jue ootto m'lfioeiation pourra se leriniiii'r sans ililliculto a la satisfaction reeipi'o(iii(! dos doux Mtats; (>t lo Cabinet de Uiissic pout assuror dos a present M. le Due de \V(!llini>'ton tpu; Ios mesuros do precaution ct do surveillanoe ([ui seront prises alors sur la partio llusso do la oAto d'Ainoricpie sc trouveront cnti^roinent (MHitbrnies aux droits dorivant do la souvcrainoti^., ainsi qii'aiix usages olablis cntre nations, v.\ ii\i'aueuno jilainto Idgitimo nci pcnura s'elcvct contrc olios. ('rraiislation.) (Confidential Aleiuoranduni.) Vrroiui, No»embi'r 11 (2;{), ]>?22. THE Cabinet of Hussia bavo taken into mature oonsidoration tlio Confident iiil jSIemoranduni forwarded to tboiu by tbo Duko of Wellington on tbo 17tli Oetohcr last, relative" to tbo nu'asures adopted by His Majesty tbo Emperor, under date ol tiir 4tb (Ititb) Sej)teniber, 1S21, for detining tbo extent of tbe Russian possessions on tlic iu)rtb-west eoast of .Vnierioa, and foi* forbidding foroign vessels to apprcxuili iiis possessions witbiu a distanoo of 100 Italian miles. Tbe overtures made on Ibis subj(!ol to tbo Government of His liritannic MajtMy by Ccnmt di> Liovon at tiie moment wbon tbat And)assador was about to leave London nmst already lia\o i)rove(l tbat tli{> opiuiori wbiob tbo Cabine!; of St. James' bad I'oruiod of tbe nu'asures in ([ucstion was not founded on an outir^ly acouratc appreciation of tbe views of His Imperial ^Majesty. Hussia is far from failing to reeogni/.o tbat oustomaud oooupation constitide 'ln' most solid title upon wbiob a State ean olaini rigbts of sovovoignty ovtu' any portion ol tbe mainland. Russia is still furtlior from baving wisbod to arbitrarily transgress tiic limits wbi(di tbat title assigns to ber dominions on tbo north-west (soast of Anieric;!. or to exalt into a general principle of maritime law the rules wbiob a necessity ol purely local cbaracter bad obliged bor to lay down for foreign navigation in tlic neigbbourbood of tbo portion t)f tbat eoast wbiob belongs to licr. It was, on tbo contrary, because she regarded those rights of sovereignly ai legitimate, and because imperious considiMations involving the very (jxistonce of tin' euumun-ce which she carries on in the latitudes of the north-west coast of America compelled ber to establish a system of precautions which became indispensable, that she caused the Ukase of the 4th (10th) September, 1821, to be issued. JIIS ft (l(! IcillS r)25 Itussin would be always rondy to ox[)lain tlio motives whiiili justify the provisions ,il' tlmt (locumcnt } but lor the inoinout sho will coiifmo hursoll' to the following (ilisiTvaiions :— 'I'lic Duke of WellinH;ton asserts, in liis Confulential Memorandum of tlic 17tli (Jctolicr, that Eiii^'lish estaldishmenls helonyinj,' to two Coini)anies, the lludscm's iJay ('(im|Miny and the North-AVcst Conipany, hiive been I'orined in ii eountry called New C'alo(li)nia, whi<!b extcniUi aloiin' the coast of tlu! I'acitie Ocean from the i-Uth to the (lOtii ile^Tce of north latitude. liussia will not refer to the establishnionts which may exist hotwct'n the lOth and •,1s) iiamih'l ; but, with reu:ard to the others, she does not hesitate to admit that she i^^ II)) to the present, ignorant of their (^xiston(•e in so far at least as to their touching the I'acilic Ocean. liven tile most recent and most minute English Maj)s give absolutely uo indica- lioii of tiie trading stations, mentioned in the Memorandum of the 17th October, on tin) coast of America bctwecMi the 51 si and (50th degree of north latitude. On the other iiand, since the exjicditions of JJehring and 'J'chirikofT, that is nearly a century ago, Russian establishments have extended progressively from tho GOth degree, so that by the yeaj" 17'.)!) they had reach«!d the 5.")th parallel, as is shown by tlic first Charter of the Uusso-Anierican Company, a Charter whicih nseeivcHl oflicial miblicity at the; time, and drew forth no protest on the part of England. This same Charter gianted to the Russian Company the right to extend its (stnhlishments towards the south beyond the 5r)th degree of north latitude, provided that sucrh increase of territory could not giv(! rise to objections on the part of any foreign i'ower. Nor did England j)rotest against tiiis provision either, nor did she ev(!n object to the new establishments which the Russo-Aineri(!an Company was able to form to the simtli of the 5.jtli <legre(! in virtue of that privilege. Russia was therefore fully entitled to profit by a consent wiii(!h, for being tacit, was none the less solemn, !ind to fix as the boundary of her dominions the d(!gree of liitituile uj) to wfiieh the Russian Conipany had extended its operations sin(!e 17!)9. He this as it may, and whatever force these eircunistances may give to the titles of liussia, His Imperial Majesty will not deviate at this juncture from the habitual system of liis policy. His first wish will ;>lways be to prevent all discussion, and to strengthen more ami more the relations of fricMidsbip and complete nnderstanding which he is hajipy to maintain with Great Rritain. C()ii8e(|uently, tin! Emjieror has charged his Cabinet to declare to the Duke of Wellington (such declaration not to prejudice his rights in any way if it be not accepted) that he is ready to fix, by means of friendly negotiation and on the basis of mutual accommodation, the degrees of latitude! and longitude which tlv two Rowers shall regard as the utmost limits of their possessions and of their establishments on the north-west coast of Anu;rica. liis imperial Majesty is pleased to believe that this negotiation (!an be completed without (lifliculty, to the uintual satisfaction of the two States; and the Cabinet of Russia can, frcmi this moment, assure the Uuke of Wellington that the measures ul' precaution Jind superintendence wliich will then be taken on the Russian part of the coast of America will be entirely in conformity with the rights dt'iived from sovereignty and with the established customs of nations, and that there will be no liossihility of legitimate cause of (iomplaint against them. ■m f-\ '4 Inclosure G in No. 382. The Duke of yVellinylon to Mr. G. Canniny. Sir, Verona, Nnvemher 28, 1H22. I INCLOSE till! (!opy of a Confidential Memorandum which I gave to Count Xesselrofle on the 17tli October, regarding the Russian Ukase, and the copy of his answer. I have had one or two discussions with Count Jjieven u|)on this ])a|)er, to which I object, as not enabling His Majesty's Government to found ujjon it any negotiation to settle the questions arising out of the Ukase, Avhieh havi; not got the better of these diflieulties ; and 1 inclose you the cojiy of a letter which [ have written to Count Lieven, which explains my objections to the Russian " Memoire Conlidentiel." This HHI 526 question, then, stands exactly whore it did. I have not heon ahlc to do anvthini' upon it. [ have, t&c. (Signed) WELLINGTON. Inciosure 7 in No. ;J82. The Duke of Wellington to Count Lieven. M. le Comte, Verona, November 28, 1S22. HAVING considered the paper wliicli your Excellency gave mo last iii!,'lit, on the part of his Excellency Count Nesselrode, on the subject of our discussions on the Russian Ukase, I must inform you that I cannot consent, on the part of my (Jovern. ment, to found on that ])aper the negotiation for the settlement of the question whidi has arisen between the two Governments on this subject. We object to the Ukase on two grounds : (1) that His Impcnal Majesty assumes thereby an exclusive sovereignty in North America, of which we an? not pro])a«'d to acknowledge the existence or the extent ; upon tliis point, however, the Memoir of Count Nesselrode does afford the means of negotiation; and my Governraont will be ready to discuss it, either in London or St. Petersburg!!, whenever the state of the discussions on the other question arising out of the Ukaso will allow of the discussion, The second ground on which Ave object to the Ukase is that Ilis Imperial Majesty thereby excludes from a certain considerable extent of the open sea vessels of other nations. We contend that the assumption of this power is contrary to tlie law of nations ; and we cannot found a negotiation \i\mn a paper in which it is as^ain broadly asserted. We contend that no Power whatever can exclude another from the use of the open sea ; a Power can exclude itself from the navigation of a c(>rtain coast, sea, &c., by its own act or engagement, but it cannot by right be excluded by niiothcr. This we consider as the law of nations ; and we cannot negotiate upon a paper in which a right is asserted inconsistent with this principle. I think, therefore, that tiie best mode of proceeding would be that you siiouid state your readiness to negotiate upon the whole subject, without restating the objec- tionable principle of the Ukase which we cannot admit. I have, &c. (Signed) WELLINGTON. Inciosure, 8 in No. 382. The Duke of Wellington to Mr, G. Canning, Sir, Verona, November 29, 1822. SINCE I wrote to you yesterday I have had another coin'crsution with the Russian Minister regarding the Ukase. It is now settled that both the Meuioruiuluras which I inclosed to you should be considered as non avenus, and the Hussian Ambassador in London is to address you a note in answer to that of the lalo Lord Londonderry, assuring you of the desire of the Emperor to negotiate Avith you upon the whole question of the Emperor's claims in North America, leserving them all if the result of the negotiation should not be satisfactory to both parties. This note will then put this matter in a train of negotiation, which is what was wished. I have, &c. (Signed) WELLINGTON Inciosure 9 in No. 382. Count Lieven to Mr. G. Canning. A LA suite des d(5clarations verbales que; lo Soussigne, Ambassadeur Extra- ordinaire et Plenipotentiaire de Sa Majeste I'Empereur do Toutes les Hussies, a J'aites au Minist6re de Sa Majeste Britannique, le Cabinet de St. James a dA se couvaiucre que si des objections s'^taient 61ev^es centre le B^glement public au nom de Sa 627 is what was tfaiest6 TEmpereur dc Toutes les Bussies sous la date du 4 (16) Septembre, 1821, lea mesures ultiineurcs adoptdes par Sa Majesty Impdriale ne laisaent aucun douto sur la cquollcs I'linisscnt Ics lions mtctC' do ses vues et sur lo ddair qii'cllo aura toujours do concilicr sos droits ot sos int(5rcts avoc les intor^ts ct les droits des Puissances auxquellcs I'liniss il'imc amitii'! vdritahlo ct d'uno bionveillanco reciproquo. Avnnt de quitter Vdrono, le Soussign6 a re9u I'ordro de donner au Gouvememont de Sa Majostd iritanniqno uno nouvello preuve des dispositions connues do rEmpereur, en proposant h son Exceilonco M. Canning, Principal Secrdtairo d'Rtat de Sa Majest6 Britanniquc pour les AlTaires ]<]trnngt>re8, sans quo cctto proposition puisse porter atteiuto aux droits do Sa JMajeste Imperiale, si cllo n'cst pas accepteo, quo do paii; ot (I'autrc la question do droit strict soit provisoirement dcartdo, ct quo tous les diiTdronds auxqucls a donnd lieu le ll^glcnicnt dont il s'agit, s'applanissont par un arrangement amical fondd sur le seul principt; des convenances mutuelles «'-t qui serait ndgocid h St. Petcrsbourg. L'Empereur so flatte que Sir Charles Bagot ne tardera point h recevoir les pouvoirs et les instructions ndccssaircs i\ cet cfFet, et quo la proposition du Soussignfi acLt^vera de ddmontrcr au Gouvernenient de Sa Majestd llritanniquo combien Sa llajestd Inipdrialc soubaite qu'aucunc divergence d'opinion no puisse sulisister entre la ilussic et la Grande-Bretagne, et que le plus parfait accord continue de prdsider k leiirs relations. Le Soussigne, &c. (Signd) LIEVEN. Londres, le 19 (31) Janvier, 1823. (Translation.) BY the vcrbfil declarations made by tbn Undersigned, Aml)assador Extraordinaiy and l'loni]iotontiavy of llis ^lajcsty tlic Emperor of All the Russias, to Her Britannic Majesty's Governniont, tli(> Cabinet of St, .Tames' must bave been convinced tliat, tliougb oxcoption bad boon taken to tbe Regulation publisbed on tbe Itb (IGtb) S(>))t(Mnlior, 1.S21, in the name of llis Majesty tlie Emperor of All the Russias, the siil)s('(iiicnt steps taken by Ills Im]K'rial Atajesty leave no doubt as to the purity of bis iutciitioiis, and as to the desire wliieb will always animate him to reconcile bis ov.n rights and interests with those of the Powers to wbleb bo is linked by bonds of true I'liciidship and reciprocal good-will. Before leaving Verona the Undersigned received instructions to give the Govern- ment of Her Britannic Majesty a new proof of the known feelings of the Emperor, by j)io])osing to bis Excellency Mr. Canning, Her Britannic Majesty's Principal SeeretaiTr nf State for Eoreign Affairs, whilst reserving tho rights of His Imperial Majesty should the pro|)osal not bo a(!eepted, that the question of strict right should be provi- sionally set aside by both parties, and that all the differences created by tbe Regula- tion ill (jiu'stion should bo smoothed over by a friendly aiTangement based solely on till' i)rinci])li' of iiiiitual accommodation to be negotiated at St. Pctersburgli. file Em])eror flatters himself that Sir Charles Bagot will very shortly receive tlie necessary powers and instructions in the above sense, and that the proposal of the Undi'isi^'iied will completely convince the Government of Her Britannic Majesty of the earnest wish of llis Imperial ]\[njesty that no ditference of opinion should exist l)ehvoon Russia and Great Britain, and that the most perfect agreement should I'lmtinuc to guide their relations. The Undersigned, &c. (Signed) LIEVEN. Londou, Janmry 19 (.'51), 1823. Inclosure 10 in No. 382. Mr. G. Canning to Sir C. Bagot. Sir, Foreign Office, February 5, 1823. WITH respect to my despatch of the 31st December last, transmitting to your Excellency the copy of au instruction addressed to the Duke of Wellington, as well as a despatch from his Grace dated Verona, the 29th November last, both upon the subject of the Russian Ukase of September 1821, I bave now to inclose to your ExccUeucy the copy of a note which has been addressed to me by Count Lieven, expressing His Imperial Majesty's wisli to enter into some amicable arrangement for ill"' !i «■ •i' ,': li t: I'' I 688 bringing this subjoct to a sntisfhctory torminatfon, and roquesting that your Expnllr>ncv may be furnished with the necessary powers to enter into negotiation lor thiit piirnosl) with His Imperial Majesty's Ministers at St. Petersbiirgh. I avail niyseU'of the opportunity of ii Russian eouriou (of whose (iepartiirc Cinm Lievon has only just ajiprised me) to send this note to yo\ir i-lxeelh'ney, and to (i,,i||.|, that your Excelleney wdl proeeed to open tlie diseussion witli the Uussian Ministii upon the basis of tlie instruction to the Duke of Wellington. I will not fail to transmit to your llxeolleney full powers for tlie conelusion of ,||, agreement upon this subject, by a messenger whom \ will dispatcli to yon ;is soon as | shall have collected any t'urllier informntion whieli it may be expedient to fuini^li in your Excellency, or to found any further instruction upon that may he nec(Ksniv hr yonr guidance m this important negotiation. T am, &c. (Signed) GEO. CAN\|.\(;, Inclosurc 11 in No. 382. Mr, Lyall to Mr. &. Cannimj. Sir, Sliip-ownns' Soridi/, New Broad Street, November 1!), 1S2.1 IN the montli of June last you were jiloased to honour me with an interview mi the subject of the Russian tJkns(> prohibiting foreign vessels from tonehini,' nt nr apj)roacbing the Russian establislmicnts along tlie ntu'th-west coast of Am(>iic!i ihcrcin mentioned, wlien you had tiie goodness to inform me that a represcMitation li.id Ihch made to tliat Government, and that you had reason to l)olie\o that tli»! Ukase would not be acted upon; and very shortly after this communieatiou 1 was infoi'uieil, (in what I considered undoubted authority, tliat tlie Russian (ioverunuMit iiad cn'isentoil to withdraw that unfoimded jiretension. The Committee of tliis Society being about to make tiieir annual Re|)i)il to tlic pb' )-owners at large, it would be satisfactory to them to be able to state tlie.ein tiiM oliicial advices have been received from St. I'etersburgli tliat the Ukase nail hmii annulled; and should that be the case, I have to express tlu; hope of the Coiiiiuittiv to he favoured with a communi(!ation from you to that elTcct. 1 have, &e. (Signed) GEORGE LYALL, Chairman of Sliip-ownern' Cowmilfpe. Inclosure 12 in No. 382. Lord F. Conyngluim to Mr. Lyall. Sir, Foreign Office, Novewbcr 2(), l^ii:!. I AM directed by Mr. Secretary Canning to acknowledge the rceeijit of vour letter of the 19th instant, expressing a hope that the Ukase of September l^^-M li;ul been annulled. Mr. Canning cannot authorize me to state to you in distinct terms that flu' I'kM' has been annuUed, because the negotiation to which it gave rise is still ))eiidiii:.', embracing as it does many points of great intricacy as well as importance. But I am directed by Mr. Canning to acquaint you that orders have been soul out by the Court of St. Petersbnrgh to their Naval Commanders calculated to iiicvi'iil any collision between Russian ships and those of other nations ; and in effect suspoii'liii!.' the V^nsa of September 1821. I am, &c. (Signed) E. CONYNGIIAM. Inclosure 13 in No. 382. Mr. G. Canning to Sir C. Bagot. (Extract.) Foreign Office, January 20, 1821. A LONG period has elapsed since I gave your Excellency reason to expiit additional instrutftions for vour (ronduot in the negotiation respecting the Russian Ukase of 1821. Tlint expwtotion wns bold out in tli(> bolicf that I slioiild havo to instruct you to combiiK* your procivdinj^s wifli tliosc of tlu^ Amoricjin Minister, and tliu friuuln^ sunh instructions was, of nceossity, dcliiycd until Mr. Kusli should lu' in possession of tlio intentions of his Ciov(!rnm('nt uimn the subject. . .. , ■■ r r. . . . ,. .•,>- • • • • • • ' It lernnins, therefore, only for me to direct your Hxecllency to resume your ncotiution with the Court of St. l\>tershiir^li ut the point at wliieh it was susp(!n(led in conse(iuence of the expeeted neeession of the United States, and to endeavour tnlivini,' 'il as speedily as possible to an amicable and honourable eoncluHicm. The questions at issu(> between (ircat Mritain and llussia are short and sini])le. Tlio |{nssian Ukase contains two obj(>ctionable pretensions : lirst, an extrava^,'ant assuni))tion of maritime supremacy'; secondly, an imwaiTantod claim of territorial (lomiuiou. As to the first, the disaroAval of llussia is, in substance, all that we could desire, Xotliing remains for netjoliation on that head but to clothe that disavowal in precise and satisfactory terms. We would much rather that those terms should be suj^f^ested bv ilussia herself than haA'c the air of pretendint? to dictate them. You will, there* [oiv, request Count Nesselrode to furnish you with his notion of such a declaration on this point as may be satisfaeton,' to your Government. That declaration may bo made tlie preamble of the Convention of Limits. Inclosuro 14 in No 382. Mr, G. CanniiKj to Sir C. Bagot. (Extract.) Furri(jn Offin; JxUj 24, J82-i. THE "Projct" of a Convention, Avhich is iiudosed in my No. 20, bavin,!,' been comnumicated by me to Count Ijic^ven, with a recpu^st that his Excellency would note any points in it u])on which he conceived any ditllculty likely to arise, or any explanation to be necessary, 1 hav(; received from his Excellency the Memorandum a copy of which is herewith inch)scd. Your Excellency will observe that there are hut two points Avliicdi liaA'c struck Count Li('\en as susceptible of any question: the lirst, the assnniption of the base of the mountains, instead of the sunnnit, as the line of boundary; the second, the extension of the right of navigation of the Pacific to the sea beyond Jiehriiig's Straits. « • • « * ' « As to the second point, it is, perhaps, as Coimt Lieven remarks, new. Hut it is to he remarked, in return, that the circumstances luider which this additional security i.< required will be new also. l?y the territorial demarcation agreed to in this "Projct," "Russia will become ]iosscssed, in acknowledged sovereignty, of both sides of Pehring's Straits. The Power which could think of making the Pacilic a maro rlaiisum may not luiiKituraHy he supposed capable of a disposition to apply the same character to a strait comprehended between two shores of which it becomes the undisputed owner. Hut the shutting up of l?ehring's Straits, or the power to shut them up hereafter, would he a thing not to be tolerate(l by England. Nor could Avc submit to he excluded, cither positively or eonsiriictively, from a si'M ill which the skill and science of our seamen has been and is still employed in piitorpriscs interesting, not to this ccnintry ahmc, but the Avhole civilized world. 'file protection given by the Convention to the American (toasts of (vicli Power may (if i( is thought necessary) bo extended In terms to the coasts of the itussian Asiatic territory; but in some way or other, if not in the form now presented, the free navigation of Echriug's Straits, and of the seas beyond them, must be secured to us. i'l * HI Inclosure 15 in No. 382. Mr. G. Canning to Mr, S. Canning. (Extract.) Foreign Office, December 8, 1824. His Majesty having been graciously pleased to name you his Plenipotentiary for concluding and signing Avith the Russian Government a Convention, for terminating tlie discussions which have arisen out of the promulgation of the Russian Ukase [128] -•: ^'^ • -V '■' '■■ 3Y 7¥ 530 of 1821, and for Rctlling the resptHstive turritorial claims of Groat Britain and Rustin on ^he noiih-west coast of America, I have received Ilis Majesty's commands to direct Tou to repair to St. rotcr8l)urgh for tlint purpose, and tofuruisUyou with the ncccssar; lustructioiis for terminating tlie long-protracted negotiation. Tlio corresijondcnce wbicli has already passed upon this subject has boon sub. mittod to your pt'rusal. And I inclose you a copy — 1. Of the " Trojet" which Sir Charles liagot was authorized to conclude and siga some niontlis ago, and which wo had every reason to expect would have been entirely Natisfuctory to the llussian Qovernmcnt. 2. Of a " Contre.Projet " drawn up by the Uussian Plcnipotentiarios, and presented to Sir Charles Bagot at their last meeting before Sir Charles Bagot'a departure from St. Petcrsburgh. 3. Of a despatch from Count Nessclrode, accompanying the transmission of the " Contrc-Projct to Count Lieven. In tiiat despatch, and in certain marginal annotaticms upon the copy of the " Projct," awj assigned the reasons of the alterations proposed by the Uussian IMenipotentiaries. In considering the expediency of admitting or rejecting the proposed alterations, it will be «'onvcnicnt t« follow the Articles of the Treaty in the order in which they stand in the English " Pi-ojot." You will observe in the first place that it is proposed by the Uussian Pleni. potcntiiirii's entirely to change that order, and to transfer to the latter part of the instrument the Article which has hitherto stood first in the " Projet." To that transposition we cannot agree, for the very reason which Coun*^ Xesselrode alleges in favour of it, viz., that the " ficonomie," or arrangement of the Treaty, ought to have reference to tlie history of the negotiation. Tiie whole negotiation grows out of tlie llka.se of 1821. So entirely and absolutely true is this i)roposition, that the settlement of the limits of the respective possessions of Great Britain and Russia on the north-west coast of America A\as ])roposed by us only as a mode of facilitating the adjustment of the dill'erenee arising from the Ukase, by enabling the Court of JIussia, under cover of tiie more eoni])rebensive arrangement, to withdraw, with less appearance of con- cession, the olFeiisive pretensions of that Edict. It is eoinj)aratively indilTerent to lis whether wo hasten or postpone all questions respecting the limits of territorial possession on the Continent of America ; but tiie pretensions of the Uussian Ukase of 1821 to exclusive dominion over the Pacific could not contiimt' longer uni-epealed without compelliug us to take some measm-e of public and elVectiml remonstmnec against it. You will tbeiel'ore take cjirc, in the first instance, to repress any attempt to give this ehfinge to the cbnractor of tlie negotiation ; and will declare without reserve that the point tu \\liieli alone the solicitude 6f the British Government and the jealousy of the British luitioii attach any great imjiortance is the doing away (in a manner as little <lis:v4;rceal)1e to Russia as possible) of the effect of the Ukase of 1821. That ibis Ukase is iiDt aetod upon, and that instructions have been long ago sent by the Russian Govcrninent to their cruizers in the Paeitic to suspend the execution of its ])i()visioiis, is true; but a private disavowal of a published claim is no security against the revival of that ebiim : the suspc^nsion of the execution of a prineipio may be perfectly compatible with the C(mtinued maintenance of the principle itself, and wlieii we have seen in the course of tliis negotiation that the Russian claim to the posessioii of the coast of Ameriea down to latitude 59° rests, in fact, on no other ground tlian the jircsiinK.'d acquiescence of the nations of Europe in tlic provisions ot an Ukase published l)y the Emperor Paul in the year 1800, against whieb it is nlUriued that no public remonstrance was made, it becomes us to bo exceedingly careful that we do not, by a similar neglect on the present occasion, allow a similar presunipliou to be raised as to an acquiescence in the Ukase of 1821. 'J lie light of tlie subjects of His Majesty to navigate freely in the Pacilic cannot be held iis matter of indulgence from any Power. Having once been jmbliely ques- tioned, it must be jiubliely acknowledged. AV'e do not di^sire that any distinct reference should be made to the Ukase of 1821 ; but we do feel it necessary that the statement of our right should be clear and jiositive, and that it should stand I'orlli in the Convention in the jilacc which properly belongs f > it, as a plain and substantive stipulation, and not be brought in as an incidental consequence of other arrangements to which we attach comparatively little irapoitiiice. This stipulation stands in the front of the Convention concluded between Russia 681 ind the United States of America ; and wo see no reasOD why, upon similar daimi^ ve ihould not obtain exactly the like saXsfootion. For reasons of tiio same nature wc cannot consent that the liberty of navigation through Bohring s Straits tthould be stated in the Trciity as a boon from Bussia. The tendency of sush a statement would bo to givo countenance to those clainM of exclusive jurisdiction against which we, on oxtr own behalf, and on that of the whole civilized world, protest. No RiK'Cification of this sort is found in the Convention with the United States of America ; nnd yet it cannot be doubted that the Americans consider themselves as secured in the right of navigating Behring's Straits and the sea beyond them. It cannot be expected that England should receive as a boon that which the United States hold as a right so unquestionable as not to be worth recording. I'erhaps the simplest course, after all, will bo to substitute, for all that part of the " Projot " and " Contrc-l'rojct " which relates to maritime riglits, and to navigation, llie iirst two Articles of tiie Convention already concluded by the Court of St. i-'otera* burgh with the United States of America, in the order in wliich they stand in that Convention. Russia cannot mean to give to the United States of America what she withholds from us, nor to withhold I'rom us anything that she has consented to givo to the United States. Tiie uniformity of stipulations in pari materid gives clearness and force to both arrangements, and will establish that footing of equality between the several Contracting Parties which it is most desirable should exist between three Power» whoso interests come so nearly in contact with each other in a part of the globe in which Lo other Power is concerned. Tliis, therefore, is what I am to instnct you to propose at once to the Eussian Minister as cutting short an otherwise incoiweaient discussion. This expedient will dispose of Article I of the " Projet," and of Articles V and VI of the " Contre-Frojot." The next i\jticlcs relate to the territo'ial demarcation. ivecn Russia With regard to the port of Sitka or New Archangel, the offer came originally from Russia, but we arc not disposed to object to the restriction Avhich she now applies to it. Wc arc content that the port shall be open to us for ten years, provided only that if any other nation obtains a more extended term, the like term shall be extended to us also. Wo are content also to assign the period of ten years for the reciprocal liberty of access end commerce with ea-sh other's territories, which stipulation may be best etate.l precisely in the terms of Article IV of the American Convention. These, I think, are the oily points in which alterations are required by Eussia, and we have no other to propose. A " Projet," such as it will stand according to the observations of this despatch, is inclosed, wliich you will understand as furnished to you as a guide for the drawing up of the Convention ; but not as prescribing the precise form of words, nor fettering your discretion as to any alterations, not varying from the substance of these instructions. It will, of course, strike the Russian Plenipotentiaries that by the adoption of the American Article respecting navigation, &c., tlio provision for an exclusive fishery of (loo leagues from the coasts of our respective possessions falls to the ground. But the omission is, iu truth, immaterial. The law of nations assigns the exclusive sovereignty of one league to each Power off its own coasts, without any specific stipulation, and though Sir Charles Bagot was authorized to sign the Convention T\'ith the specific stipulation of two leagues, in ignorance of what had been decided in the American Convention at the time, yet, after that Convention has been some months before the world, and after the opportunity of reconsideration has been forced upon us by tlie act of Russia herself, wc cannot now consent, in negotiating de novo, to a stipulation which, while it is absolutely unimportant to any practical good, would appear to establish a contract between the UnitecJ States and us to our disadvantage. Count Nesselrode himself has frankly admitttd that it was natural that we should expect, and reasonable that we should receive, at the hands of Russia, c(|iiul measure, in all respects, with the United States of America. It reuiains only, in recapitulation, to rcmiuil you of the origin and principles of this whole negotiation. t.tL^JjLltAiti.'. ^'.^ULldJiJi mssmmm 582 It is not, on oiu" part, cBsontially a nogotiatiou about limits. It is a demaml of tho repeal of an oIVohjIvo and nnjustitiahlo arrogation of exclusive jurisdiction ovoraii ocean of unnioasvuHl «\N;tont; bill a demand, ([ualified and mitigated in its mannpr, ii, order tliat its justice may be acknowledged and satisfied •without soreness or humiliation on the part ol" llussia. Wo negotiate ab :>ut territory to cover the renK.i.atrance upon principle. But any attempt to take undue advantage of this vol imtary facility wo must opi)o&c. If the present " l'roj(>t '' is agreeable to llussia, we ;u'e j-eady to conclude and siijii tin. Treaty, i!' tlie territorial an'angem(>nts nve not salislhctory, we are ready to postpone tbera, and to conclude and sign the essential part — tbat which relates to navi'^'atinn alone, adding an Article stipulating to negotiate about territorial limits hciTal'ter. But- AV{! are not pr(>pared to del'or any longer the settlement ol' that essential pmr, of the question ; and if liussia will neither sign tbe whole Convention nor that essential part, of it, she must not tak(^ it amiss tliat Ave resort to some mode of recording, in the face of the world, our ])rotest against the prsteusions of the Ukase of 1.821, and of effectually securing our own interests against the possibility of its future operations. J i Tnclosure 10 in 55 o. 382. Mr. S. Cnnnimj to Mr. G, Canning. Sir. St. Petersbimjh, Fehruanj 17 {Marcli 1), 1825. BY the messenger Latebford 1 Iiave the honoiu- to send you the accompanying' Convention between His Majesty and the Emperor of llussia respecting the I'acitic Ocean aiid north-west coast of America, ■which, according to your instructions, I concluded aiul signed last night with tho Russian I'lenipotentiaries. Tbe alterations which, at their instance, I have admitted into tbe "Projet." sucli ns I p.esented it to tli(>m at first, will be fouiul, I eonceiv{>, to i)e in strict con t'orniity wi\b lb;' s])irit and substance of His ilajef^ty's commands. 'J'he order of tbe two main subjects of our negf)liation, as stated in tbe preamble (;f the Convention, is jircscned in tli(» Arti.des of that instrument. The line of demarcation alou" the strip of land on the novth-wcKi const of America, assigned to llussia, is laid doAvn in tbe Convention agre(>;ibly t;, vimr directions, notwithstanding some dilhculties raised on this point. as well as on thai wliicb regards the order of the Articles, by the llussian I'lenijwi- tentiaries. Tiie jiistiinc' in which you will perceive tbat I have most avail(>rl niysell' of tho latitude alfiivded by your ius1riu;tions to bring the negotiation to a satisraetory aim prnnipt cnnclusi'in !•; 11h< division of the llird Article of the new "Projet," ns it stood ■vvlie-.i I !.c.iv(> it in. into the I tin!, I Vli>, ;md Vth Articles of tbe Convention sis,ni(:dl)T lb(> IMcnipotontiario. This ehruige was suggested by the Russian Plenipotcntiai'ies, and at lirsl il Avas RUg.";ei.ted In a slinpe which appeared to me objectionabh,' ; but the Article ;, as they a;v now drawn up, I humbly conceive to be such as Avill not meet A^itli your di-Mppviibnlion. Tbe ■econd paragraph of the IVth Article liad alread\" ajuM-aird p;neiitbptically ui tlie IlIrd Article of tho " Projet," and the whole of the IVlli Article is limitedin its si.T.ilication and connected Avith the Article immediately preecd in lt it by the first ])arngraph. With respect to Pehring's Straits, I am happy to have it in my power to :Niii'f' you. (in the ,;i)int authority of the llussirn Pleiii|)Oieutiaries, tbat the J'jnpeior of llussia has u'l intention whatcA'crof maintaining any exclusive claini to tbe n;n iiratioii of t]H)se .straits, dv of the seas to the north of them. It cannot be necessary, under these circumstances, to trouble you Avitli a mor j)articular account of tho several conl'erences Avbich I have bold with the tiussian Plenipotentiaries!, nnd it is but justice to state that I have found them disposcil, throughout Ibis latter stage of tbe negotiation, to treat tbe matters under disciissio" Avitb fairness nnd liiuTality. As two orig'iials (,f the Convention prepared for His Jfajesty's GovermnonI arc s'gned hy the I'leniiuitentitu'ips, I propose to leave one of thorn with Mr. AVaiil lor t".e arcblAcs of the i inbatsy. I have Sui (Signed) ' STRATFORD CANNING. "^ UNITED STATES. No. 1 (1891). .... J .- J' .. v.. C FURTHER CORRESPONDENCE RESPECTING THE n-'i Vv i Dwer to ;is-iii'o o J'^inprroi' "f ;lio ii;ivi!,';it,ioii BEHKIN6 SEA SEAL FISHERIES. Presented to both Houses of Parliament by Command of Her Majesty. March 1891. LONDON: PKINTIOI) FOR HEK MAJESTY'S SrATIONEUY OFKlCE BY HARRISON AND SONS, ST, MARTIN'S LANE, PRlNTBRa IN UBDINART TO HBR MAiBBTT, And to hr pnrchRseu, eitlier directly or tbrou);h any Booksellor, from EYRK AMD SPOlTISWOOUfc, East Harding Strrkt, Fi.bkt Strurt, ICC; or •" ■ JOHN MENZIES «t Co., 12, Hanovkr Str«t, Edinboroh. and 21, Uruhv StrbBt, Glasoow; or HODGES, PIGUIii, & Co., 104, Gbafton Strbbt. Ditbiin. [C.-6253.] Pnce \s. 2d. f [;lc:ii , ! a I if ^-f TABLE OF CONTENTS. No. Name. 8k .!' ■ ^«uneefote . . Date. Julv 4, 1890 Sir J. Paunc<f(«tle , , , Sir C. Lampcon aai'Co. To Sir C. Ijanpion aiMl'<S«^. Admiralty . . ^ Mr. Winton .. To Mr, Winton . . # 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 Sir J. I'itincefotp 12 13 14 •U 16 J7 18 19 30 21 22 Aug. I July *ppt. y*" SS 24 25 Admiralty T« Sir J. PaMMMifsIc Sir J. Pamcefote .. . . (Telegraphic) f* It • • ■ . 28, 14, 28, 24, 6, 9, 9, 11, Oct. Nov. . Der I i V •• Sir C. C •ndCo. To Sir J. Paimcefotf Colonial Office .. To Sir C. Lamp«on and Co. . Colonial Office Sir J, Pauncefote [95] Jan. 4, 14, 22, 12, 7, 16, 19. »P. 30, SI. 2, 1891 8, 8, 6. Proposed temporary exclusion of British sealers from Behrini^'s Sea. Mr. Blaine's reply to note of 27th June (see " United SUtes No. 2, 1890," p. 510) .. Negotiations of 1888. Correspondence with Mr. Blaine (see "United Sutes No. 2, 189U," pp. 491 and 493) .. Note to Mr. Blaine communicating despatch of 2nd August on general question (see " United States No. 2, 1890," p. 512) Movements of sealers in llehring's Sea. Letter from Commander-in-chief on Pacific Station from Esquimau .^ .. General observations on course of negotiations and present state of question . . . , Decrease of fur-seals. Close time necessary to prevent extinction . . .. .. .Vcknowledges receipt of above. . Movements of sealers in Behring's Sea. Telegra.n from Commander-in-chief on Pacific Station at Victoria . Comparison between the Behring's Sea and North Atlantic seal fisheries .. .. Acknowledges receipt of above , . . , Sends Bill to amend the Act providing a Civil Go vernnient for Alaska, with proposal to coiifer jurisdiction on Supreme Court Notes on Mr. Blaine's interpretation of Mr. J. Quincy Adams' despntches on Russian Ukase of 1821 .. ^*' ements of sealers. Letter from Commander- I ief on Pacific Station reporting their return Behring's Sea. Two-thirds of the catch said to be female seals . . Ileturn of sealers. Telegram from Commander-in- chief on Pacific Station jfotvier to No. 2. Negotiations of 1888. States recollection of what passed. Question considered unimportant .. .. .. .. Mr. i^\mne reminded of proposal for arbitration. He •' writing a reply to despatch of 2nd August AUt^y** -iealing schooner " Sylvia Handy." Sends i,y ..,..•,» of record in appeal case R.-' .N'o. 15. Negotiations of 1888. Des- 2'Jnd October communicated to Mr. wing to appearance of article iu "New yune " referring to subject . , Hr. Biairti*' note dated 1 7th December on general MMWinn, in reply to despatch of 2nd August (M« "nni!/>d Slates No. 2, 1890," p. 612). Terms on trfcf''' L'ln'.fd States will accept arbitration . . Refers t/) .' fi. Increase in seal catch. Fear of MCtinrtK.r Reported intention of United States' frnmi'ij) to raise duty on British manu- oreH skins. Urges speedy settlement of dis Blum York t /. I«. Negotiations of 1888, Approves l»n^ '• f'laine RalMa ' [iprehended extinction of seals. Minute ot .1., /ma Government on Messrs, Lanspitons' 9taterr>ents .. .. .. Aoknc<wl«dg»>> iiri-ipt of No. 20 Progress of ncgoluttiuns. Despatch from Canada with comments of Canadian Government ., Catch of sials in season of 1890. Minute of Canadian Privy Council, with letter from Col- lector of ( iistoms in British Columbia , President's Message to House of Representatives, with correspondence since 23rd July, 1890, on general question . . . . . . . . 14 15 '.7 18 IS 19 19 36 37 64 65 ; 65 I 76 76 TABLE OP CONTENTS. No. Name, Date. Sir J. Pauncefote (Telegraphic) Colonial Office Sir J. Pauncefote Jan. 20, 1891 29, 30 31 (Telegraphic) To Sir J. Pauncefote . . (Telegraphic). Feb. 9, 10, 31, Subject. Page Statement in " Times " of Slh January, respecting naval preparations of United States in Pacific, denied by Mr, Blaine Despatch from Canada, with Report by Minister of I Marine on Admiralty Report respecting seal- fishing (see No. 13) .. ,. ,, I " W. F, Sayward." Proceedings before Supreme I Court. Inquiry by Mr. Blaine whether diplo- matic correspondence is to be closed or suspended in consequence . . . . . . Answers above. No connection between diplomatic corrcspo iidence and " W. P. Say ward " proceedings. Reply to Mr. Blaine's note of 17th December will be sent shortly , Reply on general question to Mr, Blaine's ncte of i7lh December, ending with terms on which Her Majesty':^ Government will accept arbitration 84 85 86 86 87 • M 'i I tii i ■•.•X"o luitlier Correspondence respecting Fisheries. tiio Behring Sea Seal r- i ^f I No, 1. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received July 17.) My Lord, Washington, July 4, 1890. I II AVE the houour to transmit a copy of the reply which I have roct ived from the Secretary of Stat<< to my note of the 27th ultimo, of which a copy was inclosed in my despatch of the 2|th ultimo.* It appoai-s lo me iJiat Mr. Blaine attaches an undue significance to the word "forthwith " in my aho'- e-mentioned note. It is ohvious that, if British stealers are to he requested not to ent(H' Behring's Sea tliis season, on the ground of the proposed arhitration, there must be no delay in proceeding to that motto of adjustment, and it was, therefore, naturally made a coaditiun not " that the President should forthwith accept a formal arbitration which your Ijordship prescribes," but " that the two Govermaeuts should agree forthwith to refer to arbitration " the question of the legality of the seizures of British sealing- vesscls. That is the question of law in difference between the two Governments, and I am at a loss to imderstand why Mr, Blaine should complain of its being so stated. I shall have the honour of addressing your Lordship in a separate ("espatoh on the present situation oi" the question, which has been brought back again by the Unitec' States' Government to a question of legal right. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE Inclosurc in No. 1. Mr. Blaine to Sir J. Pauncefote, Sir, Department of State, Washington, .Tuly 2, 1SQ0. YOUll note of the 27th ultimo, covering Lord Salisbury's reply to the friendly sugE;estion of the President, was duly received. It was the design of the President, i'f Lonl Salisbury had been Favourably inclined to his proposition^ to submit a form of settloincnt for the consideration of Uer ilajesty's Government Avhich the President bcliev(>d would end all dispute touching privileges in Behring's Sea. But Lord Salisbury refused to accept the proposal unless the '.'resident should " forthwith " accept a formal arbitration which his Lordship prescribes. T!\e President's request was made in the Iiopo tliat it might lead to a friendly basis of agreement, and he cannot tliirik that Lord Salislnry's proposition is responsive to his suggestion. Besides, the answer comes so lat(^ thiit it would be impossible now to rro'-eet! this season Avith the negotiation the President had dtwired. Aa agreement to arbitrate requires careful consideration. The United States is perhaps more fully committed to that form of international adjustment than any other I'owor, hut it <!annot consent that the form in wiiieh arbitration shall be uudi-rtakeu shall 1)0 decided without full consultation and conference between the two Govern- ments. i beg further to say that you must have misapprehended what I said touching British claims for injuries and losses alleged to have been inflicted upon British vessels in the Behring's Sea by agents of the United States. My declaration was that arbitra- m • See " United Statci No, 2 (1890)," p. 310. Ml B iS ,1 i i \i '■ < tion would logi(!ally and necessarily ineludc that point, ft is not to l)o conceded, l)nt decided with other issues of tar greater weight. I have, &c. (Signed) JAMES G. iMAINE. No, 2. Sir J, Paitncefuti to thr Martinis of Salisbury. — (Rerrivcd August 7.) My Lord, Matjnolia, ^[(lssar!lusetts, Juhj 2S, 1S1)((. I HAVE the lionour to inclose v^opies of two notes wliich 1 addressed to {\\c Secretary of State on receipt of your Lordship's despal cs of the 20tli .lime* and of the 21st Juno last.t and of th(> reply ther(>t() which I lunc received from Mr. Bhiim., The reply a]ipears as the last j)aper in tlie corres])on(lence relating to the liciirinif's Sea fisheries Avliicli has just been sent to the Jlouse of lleprcsentatives. Mr. Elaine contends that a Convention was actually agreed on between voiir Lordship and Mr. Thelps on the 2ijth February, 18H8, except as to details, anil \w asks Great Britain to adliere to tliat Agreement. lie states that the interposition uf Canada, to wliich h(> attributes its abandonment by Ilcr iTajesty's Government, was in the President's belief, '• a grave injustice to the Government of tlie United Stiitps," It would secun, however, that Mr. IMielps did not consider that any Agreement had res>ilt(>d from the communications which passed between him and your Lordshin on the 2r)th February, for on the 2Sth July, according to Mr. Blaine, he telegra])]ic(l to his Government expressing the " fear that owing to Canadian opposition we shall get no Convention." It was nevei- suggested at that period, or at any period between the close of the London negotiations of ISSS and the renewal of the negotiations in "Washington, that any Agreement existed between the two Governments in relation to the fur-sml iisheries beyond a common desire to ado])t all ineasiu'cs shown to be necessary for the preservation of the fur-seal species, which was said to be in danger ol" extinction. If any such Agr(>em(Mit as is a])i)ealed to by ^[r. Blaine did exist it is ditlieidt tc understand Avhy the negotiation was ren(>wed in Washington with the object of in(|uiring into the evidence and of endeavouring to arrive at a conclusien as to tin extent of the alleged evils of ])elagic sealing and the measures to be a.!o])ted I'm' the ])reservation of the fur-seal s))ecies. On this ])oint I would refer to .Mr. I)laiiu''s note 1o me of the 1st March, ISDC, transuutting the evidence rcdied on by his Governnicnl in sui)porl of their content ion,. -Mid of whicli a jirinted cojjy was inclosed in my despatch t«> your Lordship of the L'dh Aju'il last.J I have, ite. (Signed) JULIAN FA INCLKOTi:. Inclosure 1 in No. 2. Sir J. Pauiiccfote to Mr. Blaine. Sfe,. WashiiKjton. June 30, 18i)0. IN your note of the 2!)th ^lay last,§ which I duly transmitted to the Marqnisol S«l»J)ury, thert^ arc several references to comnrinications Mliich passed between the two Governments in the tinu' of your predecessor. 1 have now rec(>ived a despatch from liord Saiishury,§ copy of which I have thi' honour to inclose, ])ointing out that there is some error in the im])ressions which you have gathered from the records in the State Department with respect to tliosr communications. 1 have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNGEFOTE. • See '• Uniled State. No. 2 (1890)," p. 491. X Ibid., p. 423. t Ibi.l, § Ibid., p. 475. p. 493. 3 .' I ,. Inclosuro 2 in No. 2. ; . >• Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Blaine. Sir, Wushiiujton, June 30, 1890. ' I HAVE received a despatch from the Marquis of Salisl)iiry, witli refeieiiee to the passage in your note to mo of the tth instant, in which you renuu'k that in IHSH his Lorilsiiil' ahruptly closed the negotiations l)ecause " the Canadian Government objected," and th.at he " assii^ned no other reason wliatever." Ill view of the ohservations contained in Lord Salishury's despatch of the iOtli June, of which a copy is inclosed in my last precedin;^ note of this date, his Lordsliip deems it unnecessary to discuss at any greater length the circumstances which led to an interruption of the negotiations of 188H. With regard, however, to the passage of your note of t\w. tth instant ahove referred to, his Lordship wishes me to call your attention to the following statement made to him hy Mr. Phelps, the United States' Minister in London, on the JJrd April, 1888, and which was recorded in a despatch of the same date to Her Majesty's Minister at Washington : — " Under the peculiar political circumstances of America at this moment," said Mr. I'helps, " with a general election im[)ending, it would he of litth^ use, and, indeed, liardiv practicable, to conduct any negotiation to its issue iicfore the (jleetion had taken place." I have, iSrc. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEfOTE. Inclosiu-e 3 in No. 2. Mr. Blaine to Sir J. Pauncefote, Sir, Bar Harbour, Maine, July 19, 1890. I iU'lCIRET that circumstances heyond my control have postponed my reply to your two notes of the 30th June, which wei'o rceoived on tlic 1st instant, on the (>vo of my leaving Washington for this pla(!e. The n()t(> Avhich came to hand on the fore- noon of that day inclosed a despatch from Lord Salisbury, in Aviiich his Lonlshij), rel'crring to my note of the 2!)th Slay, (>xpresses " a wish to point out some errors " wliicii he thinks I " had gathered from the records in my oniee." The ])urpose of Lord Salisbury is to show that I misapprehended the facts of the case when I represented him, in my note of the 29th May, as having given siu'h ''verbal assurances " to Mr. Phelps as \\arrante(l the latter in expecting a Convention to l)c eoncludecl between the two Governments for the protection of the seal lisheries ill J?chring's Sea. Speaking directly to this point, his Lordshi]) says : " Mr. Blaine is under a mis- conception in imagining that I <;ver gave any verbal assurance or any promise of any kind with respect to the terms of the proposed ConventioTi." In answer to this statement, I beg you will say to Lord Salisbury that I sim])ly (pioted iu my note of the 29th May the facts commiuiieated by our Minister, >lr. Pheliis, and oiu' Charge d' Alfaii-es, Mr. White, who are res]K)nsible for the oilicial statements made to tliis Government at different stages of the seal lisheries negotiati(ni. On the 26th I'ebruary, 1888, as already statiul in my note of the 29th May, Mr. Phelps sent the following intelligence to SeeretaiV Bayard, viz. : " Lord Salisbury assents to your proposition to establish, by mutual arrangenmnt between the Govern- nirntsint(!rested, a close time for fur-seals, between the 15th Afn'tl and the 1st November in each year, and between 100° of west longitude, and 170° of (<ast longitude in the Behring's Sea. And \w will cause an Act to be introduced in Parliament to give eU'eet to this arrangement so soon as it can l)e prepared. In his opinion there is no doubt that the Act will 1)0 passed. He will also join the United States' Government in any preventive measures it may be tliought best to adopt by orders issued to the naval vessels of the respective Governments in that region." Mr. Phelps has long been known in this country as an able lawyer, accurate iu the use of words, and discriminating in the statement of facts. Tlu? Government of (be United States necessarily reposes implicit contidencc in the literal correctness of the despatch above quoted. [95] B 2 ! ! ; I 1 I Sonic (imcartt'r llic rori'i,'!)!!!^ conforoiicc Imtwoi'ii lionl Salisbury niid Mr. I'liihiH Iind taken place, liis liorilsliip invited the ItiiNHiiin AnihaHNador, M. do HtanI, iind tlic Anieriean riiari,'e, Mr. Wliitt' (Mr. Phelps lieinfr nlwent l'n)ni Ijondon). to a conrcn'mc held at the I'onMi^n OlVice on the Kllh April, toneliin;^ the Hehrin^'H Sea <-(inli'(ivi'i'sv. This eonrerenee was reallv <'all<^d at llie re(pieNt. of the KuHHJan Ainlmssaddr, wlid desired that ituNsian rii^lits in the Hehrini;'N Sea should lit* as fully reeo^uiziMl hy l'liii;lanil as American riijhts ha<l Immmi reeo>;ni/.ed in the verbal Aj^reenient of the 25111 [''cliriiarv between Lord Salisbury and Mr I'helps. 'I'he l{\issian Ambassador received from Lord Salisbury the nNNuranee (vidiialilc also to (he l'ni(i>d Stiites) that the protected area for seal life should boexl,«Mided siiiilii ward to tiie fTtli deirrc(< of nortli lalitude, and also ihi^ promise iliat he would liavi* a draui^lit (.v'iV| ('onv<'Ution prepared for submission to th<^ Kussian Anibaiuuidor jui>| ||u' American Cliari^c " Lord Salisbury now contends that all the ])rocecdini,'H at. tlui Ocmrerencc of (lie Kith .April arc to be regarded as iily " provisional, in order to furnish a hasis f^r nc;4;otiation, and without, ilclinitively |tle(lj!;inf; our (Jovcriuncnf." While the inidcr. standiui^ of this (iov<>rnu\ent dillVrs from that maintained by liord Salisburv, lam instructed by tlu^ {'resident to say that the Tnitcd StatcH is williuf? lo con.sidcr all the proceedim^s of the Kith April, ISSH, as canccdied. no far a;* Ameritmn rif;lit.s may In. e(nu'erncd. This (iovernincnt will ask <ircat Ibitiiin ♦() adhero only to the Af^ncnicnt made between Jiord Salisbury and .Mr. riielps ttn thi' 2511) l''el)ruary, ISHH. I'liat. was an .\f,'rccment made directly iM'twccu the two (Jovcrnuu'uls, and did not ineiudi! tli,; riijhts of Hussia. Askini; li(n"(l Salisbury to adhere to the Af^reement of tlic 2r)th ]''ebruary, w(> leave the Af:;retMnent of the Kith. April to be inaintuined, if niaii;. tained at all, by IJussia, for whose cause and for whoso advantat^o it was parlicidaily dcsifjncd. While I /ord Salisbury makes a j^cneral denial of havini; f^iven " verbal assurances," he has not nuide a special denial touchini; the .\f^reenuMit between himself and !Mr. riiclps, whitd\ Jlr. I'lu I ps has reported in special detail, and th« correct iicss (if which be has since specially alVirined on luon; than one o(!casion. In your second nott> of the JlOtb .lunc, received in the afternoon of tlie 1st July, you call my atttuition (.at I, ord Salisbury's rcMpicst) to a statement which \ made in my nt)te of the tth .June, to this eirect : — " It is evident, thcrcfcuv, that in IH.'^H Lord Salisbury abruptly clo.sed (lie nof^oliation because, in his own phrase, ' (hi^ Canadian (lovcrnmcut objected.'" To show that there were other causes for clositi)^ the ncsrotiation, Lord Salisliiny desires that attention be called to a remark made to him by Mr. Phelps on tjic ."b'd \\m], ISSS, as follows: "Under the ju'culiar (iircumstances of America at tliis monuMit, with a jjjetu'ral (>l(>(>tion impendiu!^, it wo\ild be (d' little use, and indeed hardly ])racticablt>, to conduct any nci^otiation to its issue before the gemiml election lias taken place." I am quite ready to admit that such a statement made by Mr. IMielps mis;;Id luiw be adduced as one of the r(>asoiis for bn'akiiifj; olf the ne!.;otiation, if, in tact, the neiiotiation b;id been then broken olf. Mut fjord Salisbury immediately pnK'ecdcd willi tluMiei^otiation. The remark ascribed to Mr. I'heljis was made, .ns Lord Salisbury states, on the ;{rd April, IbS.S. On the r>tli .Ajiril jVlr. IMielps Icf t Jxmd<m on a visd to the I'liilcd Stattvs. On th(> (ith April Lord vSalisbury addressed a private note t.i ^Ir. White to meet the Hussian Ambassador at the l"\)rciu;n()nice, as he had appointed a meetinir for the Kith April (o discuss tht> ([uestions at issue (!oueerning the seal lisl'cries in llcliring's Sea. On the 2.'{rd .Vjiril there was some corrcspoudenci* in rejjard to nn Order in Council and an Aiit of I'arliauKMit. On the 'J7tb April rnder-Secretary Harrington of the Foreign OITu'c, in an ofViciiil note, informed Mr. White that "the next step was to brini? in an Act of I'arliament." On the 2Stli April ^fr. "White was informed that an Act of I'arliament would lie necessary in addition to the Order in Ctmncil, but that "neither Aet nor Ord •could be draughted [,vic] until Canada is heard from." Jlr. I'belps returned to London on the 22nd .luno and immediately t(K)k up the subject, (>arncstly pressing l/ml Salisbury to conu> to a conclusion. On the 2Stli -lu'v, be telegraphed his (iovernment expressing th(^ "fear that owing to Canadian opposition we shall get no Convention." On the 12th September IMr. Phelps wrote to Secretary IJayard that Ijord Salishiirv bad stated that "tlic Canadian Government objected to any such rcstri( ' any l^as llidMMiski'd for ilio nrotccfion ol' flio m-nl flHliori('M), niul Hint iiiilil (Jiiiimla's (MJiiHciit (.(iiilJ li'" "I't"'"*'*') 'I'*'' M'y«'Hty'« (JovtTiimiMit wns iiol willinj; to enter iiit<» tim Cdiivciitioii." I iiiii jnslilled, ilierefore, in asminiiim timt. r<itm HaliNlmry cnnnof recur lo Mie iviimi'lv <>l Mr- I'lieliis iiM oniMif tlie reasons for breaking oil' tlie nef^otiatiori, liceanse the ii('i,'otiiilion was in aelniil piof^ress Cor moie fliun I'onr inonflm after tlie remark w»h iiiMile. mid Mr. IMielps himself took lar^e part in i(. ITiiiin this reeitjil of facts, I am imahje to recall or in any way to (|nalify tlie vlntcnient wliicli I made in my note of tlie 'Hli June to tlie elleet tlial Lord SaiiHlmry •'iiliriiiplly (dosed llie ne^jotiation Iteeause the Canadian tiovermueut. oliji'cted.and that. lie Mssiiriied no other reason whatever," 1,(11(1 Salishury expresses the liidief that (iven if llie view I have taken of these IniMMiclious he ac(Mn'ate, they would not hear out. the ari^ument \vlii(di I fontifl iipdii tliein. The argument to whi(di I.,ord Salis!)ury refers, is, I presume, the rcniiMist ranee whi(di I madi", hy direction of the President, at,'ainst tlie (dian!,'e <»!' nolicy l>v iicr Majesty's (Jovernnient without notice and aijainst the wish of (he llnitcrl Slad's. 'I'hc interpositicm of the wishes of a hritish province a'.;ainst tin- eonelnsion of ji ('(iiivcniion hetween two n.ilions which, according; to Mr. I'helps, "hail hcen virtually iiijiwd upon except as to details," wns, in the ['resident's helief, a ^''ave injusti<!e to thcdovcrnmeni of the United Htates. I have, ite. (S\'j;wi\) .1. a. HLAINK. No. .3. Sir ./. l*aunrcfolc to the Miirijuin of tinUHbury . ~ {Hrvirnd Aiujusl 'J^t.) un Order in Mv liiird, r HAD the honour Miiijnoliii, AiiijnHl \V, 1H1»0. to receiv(! on th(! 11th instant your lionisliip's despatch i]f till' 2nd of this month,* relatiri'^ to the Hehrint,''s Sea (rmtrovcrsy, and I now hetf to inclose herewith a copy of the note with whi(!h, in ju;cordance with the instrm^tions contained in that dcHpaich. 1 ft)rwnrded a (!0))y of Ww same to the Secretary r)f State. I have. (Sii^ncd) &c. .llJlilAN i'AUNCKI'OTJ-:. Inclosure in No. :?. Sir J. Pauncrfotfi to Mr, liliiinr. Sir, Mar/nolia, Ainjusl 12, 1800. I THANSMl'I'TKI) without delay to the Marquis of Salishury a copy of your imtc of till? .'5()th .Tunc relalinf? to the J?elirini;'s Sea controversy, and in which you nimnient upon ;i despatch from his Lordship, dated the 22nd May, of which 1 had the limiour to leave a copy with you. I liav(! now received a despatch from Jjord Salishury, dated tlu; 2nd Aus^ust, in ipply to thos(! comments, and, in ac<!()rdance with his Lordship's instrutd.ions, I have the lumour to transmit to you herewith a copy of it and of its inelosures. You will ohserve tlml in tli(! last i)araL,'rai)h, I am directed to stat(< that J[er Majesty's (iovemmcnt have nil desire whatever to refuse to the United States any jnrisdiction in Hehrini^'s Sea wiiicli was conceded hy (ireat Britain to IJussia, and wliich properly accrues to the |ircsi'iii ]>ns.sessors of Alaska in virtue; of Treaties or of the law of nations; and that if tiic United States' (Jovernment, after examination of the evidence and ari;uments wliidi are produced in that despatch, still differ from them as to tl'(.' Iei,'ality of the went captures in that sea. Her Majesty's Government are ready to aiirce that the i|iu'stion, with the issues that depend on it, should he referred to impartial arbitration. In that case, I am authorized to consider, in concert with you, the method of procedure to be followed. I hav(!, &e. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. • See " L'nitcd Stalfs No. 2 (1890)." No. 382, p. 512. i'i 6 No. 4. Admiralty to Foreign Office. — {Received August 30.) Sir, Admiralty, Aiu/ukI 28, 18iHi. T AM coinmanded by my Lords CominissioiKM-s of tlic Admiralty to tninsinii hcrowitli, for the information of tlio Secretary of State, copy of a letter rnnii iIk Commander-in-cliiof on tho I'aeilh! Station, dated at Kstjuimalt, tlie (itii instiint tof,'etlier with copies of its iuclosures, respecting tho movements of scalers in Beliriiifv Sea, &c. ' I am, itc. (Sii,Mied) R. D. AWDKY. Inclosuro 1 in No. i. Rear-Adriiiral Hothnm to Admiralty. (Extra(!t.) " WarKpitr," at Ksfjuimalt, August i), 18<)(). Tlll'l Aineriean auxiliary steam-schooner " Mischief " and tho Britisli scli ht "Aurora" liaving just returned from the sealini,' fleet, T took the opport unity nf (ihlaininiif from them tho following information as rci^'ards tho stato of alTairs as hr;\, they knew : — it is usual for the seal traders to charter a vessel to take the coast cateli of soii!. skins from the sealers, and bring them south b(>forc the ileet. enter the Hehrin!,''s f>n. This year the schooner " AFischief " was chartered by a Syndicate represent ini;' t\V(iii\. five British vessels and four American. Tho American vessels are : " Henry l)iiiiii< "San.Tos(V"'LiIy L.," and "Allie Alger." The "Mischief" sails under' AnurinH colours, and left Victoria on the lltli June. She arrived at Sand Point, Little KoniiisUi Island, Shumagin group, Ith July, where about thirty vessels mh awaiting her. On the afternoon of tho Oth July nineteen vessels under British coloiu's put In sea, followed by the "Mischief" to about lo miles from the land, and l)(>twerii d I'.ji. of that (lay and 't A.M. of the next 9,12!) skins Avere transferred to the " Miscliicf," 15ad weather coming on, tho schooners that had not completed the ti'imslVr of skins Av<>nt into North-East Harbour (Little Koninski Island), remained tli.-ro tln' 7lli and 8th .luly, but wanting more shelter went through the 12-fatlioni cliaimil between Shumagin and SimanolF to Sand Cove, in the north-east of Little Koninski Ishuid. On the lOth July they again weighed and went outside 6 miles from tlicbiui and transferred the remainder of the skins, amoimting in all to about lt5,()0!». The " Mischief" did not fall in with any of the American vessels slip iv;b eliartered for, and the guarantee of 50 dollars which the Syndicate had each to (k'posil Avas returned to the owners on her arrival at Victoria. While taking in the last of the skins the "Mischief" sighted tho " fatliiluder,' which schooner reported that she had sighted the American revcnuc-eutter " lUisli" (Cai)tain Coulson, with Lieutenant Tuttle as boarding officer, the same as last yoiU')oii the Dth July, heading for Sand Point. 'J'hore being still some more skms to come down, the schooner " AuroPc'i" \va> chartered by Mr. Munsie, of Victoria, and Captain Cox, S(;cretary of the British Sealers Association, to bring them to Victoria. Tho above-named gentleman gavo tin' following information to Caj)tain Ilulton, of Iler Maj(>sty's ship " Amphion." The " Aurora " was not going to enter the Behring's Sea, as her linntcr* refused to do so on account of having had no pay for two years. It appears to be the custom for the hunters (Indians) to share according to the catch, and last year and a year or two before the catches had been seized, consequently the seal-liuntm (Indians) had lost their money. The "Aurora" left two days after the " .M iseliief," and brought a letter from the British schooner '* Ariel," which t'.;: cnotain had loft at Sand Point for his owner, Captain Buckram, of Victoria. The Ictt';?' ;. res he liadlxni boarded by the Lieutenant of the " Rush," and two copies of tli ■ Proei imatiou of the American President handed him (copy inclosed). When asked i,' .lie loardiiij; oHicer if he was going into the Behring's* Sea, ho replied he was, an' Lieutenant Tuttlo warned him, saying, " Tlien you had better look out." A sick man from the schooner " Triumph " came down in tho " Aurora " and reported the " Rush " at Sand Point on the 9th July distributing copies of the above I'roplamntlon. Hlic only ronirtincd iiboiit an iiour and went out for tlic niij;lit, lirrsUMialily f(H' Nortli-Kast, llarliour, hut it-turncd noxt moruini^, not liavinL^ foujid any 'cliixmci's tlu-rc. Tlic " Aurora " urrivinji,' at Sand Point on tlio I'itli July found the (vliolo dl' tlie scalers ami the cruizer had j^nno into the Hchrins's Sea. Kniin what I can siathcr here ilic principal number of scalini^-vesseis arc iiwiH'd liy American subjects, thouf,'li not registered in llieir names, notaljly one scli(i;>ner,'tlie "Mary Ellen ;" also the schooners would proi)ably enter and return from tlic Heliriiu;'s Sea by the 172nd I'ass so as to avoid Ounalasl<a. The Ib'itish vessels Hiiriill warned by their owners not to ^o within 15 miles of the land whilst in tlie Jj,.lirin^'s Sea. 1 niso wish to point out that there will ])robably be no more news fron; tlit^ MiiliTs until their return, about the end of September, and tiiey are so scattered wiiile siiiliiiLf tliat it it unlikely, if any seizures do take plac(<, that I should hear ol them until some time after. I reported by telegram (of tin' (tth instant) the only seizure that has taken iiliicc is that of an American schooner, tlio "U. 11. White," for contravention of tlie ..jiiiii'il and Arms Act of Alaska." Inclosurc 2 in No. 4. l!v the I'resideut of the United States of America : A Prorlmiialloii. THE following provisions of the Laws of the United States are her<!by published I'oi'tlu; information of all conccrm-d. Section lOflti, Revised Statutes, Cliapter 111, Title 23, enacts that :— "No ])erson shall kill any otter, mink, marten, sable, or fur-seal, or other fur- licavin;,' aninuil within the limits of Alaska Territory, or in the waters thereof; and cvciy |)erson guilty thereof shall, fen- each olVence, be lined not less than 200 dollars in- iiioiv than 1,000 dollars, or imprisoned not more than six inimtbs, or botli, and all vessels, their tackle, apparel, furniture, ;uul cargo, found (Migaged in violation of tiiis SL'i'tidii shall be forfeited ; but the Secretary of the Treasury shall have ])()wer to autiiorizi! tlie killing oi any such mink, marten, sable, or other fur-bearing animal, I'Xi.'cpt fur-seals, under such l{(?gulati()ns as he may prescribe; and it shall be the duty iif the Secretary to prevent the killing of any fur-seal, and to provide; for the execution 111 till' provisions of this section until it is otherwise provided by law, nor shall lie uiMut any special privileges under this section." «' » ^ * » » * Section 3 of the Act entitled, " An Act to provide for the Protection of the Salm/in risherics of Alaska," api)roved the 2nd March, 1885), provides that: — " Section 3. That Sciction 1950 of the R(!vised Statutes of the United States is liei'L'bj declared to include and apply to all the dominion of the United States in the ! «atei's of the IJehring's Sea, and it shall be the duty of the President at a timely ■-oasDu in each year to issue his Proclamation and cause the same to be published for iiiu' mouth at least in one newspaper (if any such there be) publishc-d at eacdi United States' port of entry oji the Pacific coast, Marning all persons against entering sucii huiti're for the purpose of violating the jn-ovisions of said section, and he shall also cause one or more vesscis of the United States to diligently cruize said waters and arrest all persons and seize all vessels found to be or have been engaged in any Iviokition of the Jjaws of the United States therein." Now, therefore, I, Benjamin Harrison, President of the United States, ^jursuant to I tlie above-recited Statutes, licreby warn all persons against entering the Avaters of lieiiriiig's Sea within the dominion of the United States for the purpose of violating I the provisions of the said Section 1956, llevised Statutes ; and I hereby proclaim that lallpcreous found to be or have been engaged in any violation of the Laws of the; j United States iu said waters will be arrested and punished as above provided, and I that all vessels so employed, theu' tackle, apparel, furniture, and avrgoes, will be seized I and forfeited. In testimony -whereof I have hereunto set my hand, and caused the seal of tho I United States to be affixed. i ) ^, IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 4 1.0 I.I 1.25 UiKA |Z5 ■ 2.2 us |40 I 2.0 ^1^ V Vj Photographic Sciences Corporation 1?. WtST MAIN STREIT •«iBSTIR,N.Y. MS80 (716)«72-4S03 ^s^ o ^p^ 4«*\ WcS '^.<^ ft I. Done in the city of Washington this 15th day of March., 1800, and of tli In(h>p<>n(lcncc of the United States the 114th. (Signed) BEiNjN. HARllISOiN. By the President, (Signed) Jaues G. Hlaine, Secretary of State. No. 5. Sir J. Pauncefole to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received September 1.) (Kxtract.) Magnolia, July '24, 18S0. TlIE adjournmcut of tlie Behring's Sea negotiations caused by the departure of the Secretary of State from Wasliington for Bar Harbour, as reported in my telegram of tlie 3rd instant,* affords a convenient opportunity for submitting to your Lordship some observations on the course of those negotiations and on the present situation of the controversy. It may be convenient, in the first place, to recall the circumstances under wliieli the London negoliation was renewed in Washington. The London negotiation had been interrupted by various events before any satis. factory inquiry had t"^ken place into those important questions of fact on wiiicli the United States' Government base their contention that a close season in Belirinij's Sea is indispensable for the preservation of the fur-seal species. That contention was supported, no doubt, by a considerable amount of ej; parte evidence, on the strength of which the United States' Government proposed a close season from the 15th April to the 1st November. At the same; time they declared that they only desired a close season for sucliii period as might be requisite for the end in view. Her Majesty's Government were disposed to entertain the proposal favouralily, subjeot to the views of the Canadian Government, as representing that part of Her Majesty's dominions immediately interested in the seal fishery. The Canadian (ioveni- mcnt pointed out that the proposal of the United States' Government would practically have the etfect of excluding Canadian sealers altogether from Behring's Sea. Tliatthe period suggested for a close season might as well be read from the 1st January to the 31st Ueccmber, it being notorious that seals do not enter Behring's Sea until the Uiiddlo or end of May, and have left those waters by the end of October. They disputed tlic accuracy and value of the evidence relied on by the United States' Government. It was at this juncture that Mr. Phelps, the United States' Minister in London (according to Mr. Blaine's note of the 19th July, 1890), telegraphed to his Government expressing liis fear that, owing to the opposition of Canada, "there would be no Convention. Tlie Presidential election then supervened, which, as Mr. Phelps admitted, neces- sarily suspended the negotiations. The formation of a new Cabinet at Wasliington, and the aj)i)ointment of a new iiritish Minister, retarded further progress, and it was not until the month of February last that it was agreed that the negotiation siumlil lie resume<l at Wa.shington between ^Ir. Blaine (the new Secretary of State), M.de Struve (tiie Russian Minister), and myself. It was admitted that the sole object of tlie inquiry was the preservation of the fur-seal species for the benefit of mankind, and tliat no considemtion of advantage to any particular nation, or of benefit to any private interest, should enter into tlie discussion. During the negotiation I had the advantage of the able assistance of ^fr. Cliarlis Tupju'r, the Canadian Minister of Marine and Fisheries, and I may say that, tliniiii,'li- out the inquiry, Ifer Majesty's Government were animated, by (he largest spirit of justice, friendlines.^, and conciliation. On th(! part of the United States' Government, ilr. Blaine produced a Memoran- dum of evidence and extmcts from oflicial documents to prove "that the killing ol seals in the open sea tends certainly and rapidly to the extermination of the species." This assertion was combated with great force and ability by Mr. Tuppcr in a counter-Memorandum which I laid before the Conference, and in which a great amount of testimony is collated adverse to the view of the United States' Government. The • See " United Statei No. 3 (1890), " p. SOS. 3S under wliicli ison for sucli ii result of tho careful consideration which I t^avo to the evidence on both sides was to satisfy my own mind that, while measures arc called for to protect female seals with youni; from slaughter durinp the well-known periods of their migration to and from the breeding islands, and also to prohil)it the approach of sealing-vesscls within a certain distance of those islands, the in(|uiry had failed to establish the contention of the United States' Government that the absolute prohibition of pelagic sealing is necessary for tho preservation of the fur-seal species. But the conflict of evidence and opinion on many points was such as to preclude all hope of a solution of the question without recourse to a Commission of Experts, and possibly to arbitration. In' this state of things I was invited by Mr. Blaine to make a proposal on behalf of Ilcr Majesty's Government. Accordingly, I prepared and submitted to the Con- fnrence the scheme of settlement explained in my note to Mr. Blaine of the 20th April,* together with the draft of a Convention to carry it into effect, the draft having previously met with the concurrence of the Canadian Government and with your Lonlship's approval. I venture to think that it would be difficult to suggest a more equitable basis of settlement. The proposed Convention provided for an appointment of a Mixed Commission of Experts to report on the disputed jwints, with ultimate recourse to arbitration, should it be found necessary for the final adjustment of all the questions involved. More- over, it embodied regulations to take immediate cilect, and which I do not hesitate to affirm were amply sufficient to remove all risk of the depletion, or even appreciable diminution, of the fishery pending the Report of the Commission. I had every reason to expect that, on receipt of my note of the 29th April and of tlie draft Convention which it inclosed, another meeting of the Conference would have I)pen sumraon<.'d to discuss the sufficiency or insufficiency of the proposals made by Her Majesty's Government. But the negotiators were not invited to meet again, and my note of the April 20tb, was not even answered. On the 22nd May the public journals announced the rejection of the British proposals, and the issue of instructions to the United States' revenue-cruizers of such a character as rendered necessary the intimation conveyed in my note to Mr. Blaine of tlic following day (23rd May),t that Her Majesty's Government would forward without delay a formal protest against any interference with British vessels in Behring's Sea outside of territorial waters. Mr. Blaine's reply to that note is dated the 29th May, J and in the course of his olisirvations on the protest ofHcr Majesty's Government he states that "no course was left to the United States or Russia " but to reject the proposals contained in my note of tlu; li'Jth April. That is tho only formal intimation I have ever received that the pro- posed Convention was unacceptable to the United States' Government. The negotiation whicli was thus hrougiit to so abrupt a termination had l)ccn restricted entirely to the question of a close season. All questions of legal right in controversy were purposely kept out of view, in the hope that they would finally disappear in an international agreement. That result, however, not having been attained, the United States' Government have reverted to the claim of legal right to exclude all other nations from the fur-seal fishery in Behring's Sea. I have had some difficulty in clearly apprehending, even after all the corre* spondencc wliich has taken place, the precise proposition of law on wliich tlie United States' Government rely in justification of that claim. The attitude of the late Cabinet was quite inconsistent with any serious reliance on such rights as are now asserted. Tims, I'i.sldent Cleveland, in 1887, ordered the release of three British sealers seized in Behring's Sea, under Section 1956 of the Revised Statutes of tho United States, which in general terms prohibits the killing of any fur-seal " Avithin the limits of Alaska Territory, or the waters thereof." It is true that Secretary Bayard stated that such release was ordered " without conclusion of any questions which might be found i,o be involved ;" but no further seizures were made in 1888, and the I'nNsidcnt proceeded to invite the Governments of Great Britain, Germany, France, Russia, Sweden, and Japan to enter into an arrangement for the better protection of the fur-seal fisheries in Behring's Sea. Tills amounted to an admission, in the face of Europe, that the object in view could not be attained consistently with the law of nations without an international agree* ii s ,1 * S«e" United Sutes No. 3 (1890)," f95] p. 455. t Ibid., p. 473. X Ibid., p. 473. 10 mont. Anotlipr or|iinlly sitftiiHcinl fact was tlio rrfusal of the Sonnto of the United Stnfcs to allow tlic iiKi-rtioii '>[',i claiiM', proposed by tlic House of Hepr.'sentativos, jt, the Act of the 2inl >rnreh, ^'^^'^, deelarinr,' that Seetioii ]'.).')0of the Jievised Stntnt-s fthove referred to, aiid under wliieli the seizures of liritisli seah-rs on tlie lii.,di seas bare been made, "iiudude and apply to all the waters of Helu'iiuf's Sea in AlasU omhraeed within t lie houiidary-lines mentioned and deserihed in the Treaty m it li Uussia.' The idausi'. as il now stands, is as follows: — "iSeetion lU.^n of the Revised Statutes of the I'liited S!at<'-; is lierehy dcclaml ;,) include and apply to all the don\inions of the United States in the waters of Hi-hriin;'! Sea." It will he seen, thenfore, tint the Senate deelined ti eoniproinise itself hv anr sueh deelaration as was ])ropined hy the House of Uepresentatives. This is jiot s\irj)risinLt. eonsideriiiir the politieo-])hysienl ijooi^rr.phy of lJrlirin;;\ Sea. An eminent American jurist, I'resident Ausrell, in an article in the " Forum" of >iovein'!i(>r IbSU. demoiLst rates with yreat force the fallacy of treatiiiif tint si'.i a; marc chusum. Ue jutints out that it measures 1.100 miles from oast to west, and SOO mih's from north to sduiIi, and that its area is more than twice that of the Nurih Sen. and at Icmt two-thirds as urcat as the Mediterraneaii. As reaards its cntrancts. he ri'marks that it is uj)en to the noi'th hy the straits. .'ItJ miles wide, which form a pas«;ii,'e-wny to the Arctic Oeeuit : and to the south hy more than 300 miles of y';i intervenins; between the most westerly island of Alaska and the Asiatic shore. Another eminent American jurist, I'rofessor Itayncr, writing; in the same sense tu the " New York Evening Tost" of the 27th Juin-, l>>>iO. observes that tlie inrrowiM of the channels l>etween the western extremity of the Aleutian belt of islands belonirinu' to the L'nited States and the Uussian territory of Kamtehatka "would admit of a tleet of 100 vessels sailing abreast in a sin^'le Hue, even 'f deployed witlia quarter of .1 mile between each two ve.-sels." But oven if liehriuffV Sea were 'Mand-locked " within the meanin<; of a elosi'va, the .severatiee in the unity of territorial possession wliieli took jjla^'e in l^'iiT hy tin cession of Alaska to the l'nited States (h-prived it at once of one of tiio indis|ii'Msubli conditions of a "close sea." Russia, by the Ukase of 1^21. undoubtedly claimed that part of the Paritii Ocean as mnrt' rlnufnin, alfheutrh sln> did not atienipt to exclude foreiirn vessol< entirely from it. -Vs explained by M. I'oletieu, in his note to Mr. .Vdains of tiic 2Sth February, l'^2'2, llussia. wliile clainxins; the riirlit to do so, preferred only asscrtiiiu' her '•essential riirhts '' by i)rohibitinir forei;:!i vessels from approachini; the coasts or islands within less thati HiO Italian miles. It is clear, therefore, that Russia bav her rii^lii to impose this lesser restriction on tbreii;n vessels upon the larirer ridit oi total exe'usiitn utider the doctrine of mar- rldii'unu. If I correctly understand the contenti<in of the United States' (iovormnent. it i> this : — They are willini; to discard the doctrine of mure rhiusnin as applied to Reliriii." Sei. but they insist on the m >iv limited riulit elaiuii.'d hy Russia to exercise jurisiii'- tion oi(>r fori-iirn ^l'sseN witliin ioo miles of tlie c lasts and islands. It is ol)vio;i>, how.'ver. thai the Rus-iau claim of jurisdiction within Kit miles disappeared wiiii i:ii' lariTcr claim of mari' ridiKum from which it was derive hand tint it caimot iiuwb' revived with any semblance of risht. and for any purpose whatever. Sueh an .appropriation of open sea, to use the laniruai.'e ,f Hr. D.ina (7th edition M WlieriMn. note to narai^raph 1S7), ''howevej lomr aciiuie-eed in, is inadmissible in the nat\in' "f thiuirs. Whatever may be tlie evideiK'c of the time or nature of tic use, it i> so' aside as a b.ad usaire which no evideiu'c can raaivc leiral." Hitherto the credit has been ascribed to the l'nited States of haviiii; been iin' first nation to vindicate the freedom of the sea in respect of this very portion of the raciilc Deean by the rii^oroiis protest of Mr. .1. (^». Adams auainst the whole of tlio claiius, maritime and territorial, asserted bv the Emperor Alexander I in his faniom Ukase of 1821. I think it will be a matter of seneral surjjrisc to learn tiiat, in the view of thf United States' Government, that ])rotest was not intended to apply to the claims M Russia in Hehrini;'s Sea. Hut, whatever opinion may be formed on that point, il L< certain that the prineijdes of the law of nations invoked hy Mr. Adams apply "ith oq'.'.al force, wh 'her to the north or to the south of the Aleutian Islands, and iliat the millions t . . ir- enls which migrate annually to liehriui^'s Sea do not, on entering it? waters, become the exclusive property of the United States, I will not presume to dwell lomjer on the Ici^al asptjct of the controversy, as the various questions of law to which it has given rise havi- been fidly and conclusively of the United 'pr.'soiit;itivos,it; Iti'viscd Statnt,., n fli<^ lii^'h seas "s Sea in Alask.i ity with Uussia." •n-by (i.'claml u Uts i)f Hclirinij'f isn itself liv any pliy of lJi'iiriny( the " Forum "of ini; tint sim as ist to west, and l\at of the Ndrili Is its ciiframvv idc, wliifli farm 300 mi It's of s'M L' shore, ic snmc sense tn t the iinrrowist belt of islands tehatka '-would (lojiloyed witli u lar of a eloso va, ! in lh()7 by tin ho indispensabli . of the Taciti. foreiijii vessoi- . Adams of thi' d only asscrtini! i\ii the eoiistsur it Russia liav larijer riijlit nt >voriiment. it i- d to Hehrin,'. cercise jiirisiif- [t is obviiiuj, lenred with tiu' eannot nmv b ver. Sueh an oil ,)f Wlii'i; m. II the naturi' I'f le use, it is >o' aviiiu been iin' portion nf the ' ■\vholi' nf tlio [ in his faiuou.« tJio viow of the 1 tho claims nf liat point, it L' luis apply with s, and I hat the on entering it? irovorsy, as the 1(1 eout'lusively <talt "iib in your Loidsbip's dpsjjatchcs, of whicli copies have been communicated to Mr. riaiix'. J will only observe, in eonelusion, that if tbi" fnited States" fjovornnipnt p'rsist in tlu'ir ende.'Wi.iir to e\i'lu(b' Hr-itisli sulijects IVoni any partieintU ion in tlie fur-seal tislit'ry ill Helirini;'s Sea, on the jjlea tb;it such e\e!usion is ueepssary for the jireservn- tionof tbi' fur-seal s|)eeies. tb(\v assume a p isitioii wbieli in my opinion will not bear tlip test of an inn>artial inquiry, and that, in difendiui? such action on the tcround of losalriu'bt. tbey raise <piest:ons of ;;i'a\e interest and concern to all nations wbicb there pnn '"' "" '"T'" '■' '""'"-'"2 t" '"^ ^'itisfactory soluticm otherwise than by u Conference ,,f tho (ireat I'owei^-. or by intcrnatiimal arbitration. No. (i. Sir C. Lirnpson and Co. to Foreiijn Offic: — (licciivcd Sppli-mber 6.) Dear Sir, •>■!•, Queen Slri-rl, London, Sfptmilirr (!. 1890. STNCE we addressed yon, under date of the (itli Xcvember last,* on the Bchrinaj's !<f« Fishery t|nestion, tlic nuinlier of fur-seals annuiilly visitiiiir tiie I'libylov brecdini^ islands lias decreased to such an extent that tlie Company wiio bold the lea-^e from the United States' (lovernmcnt liave only lun-n able to seeure, for trade purposes. :il,000, instead of tlic usual 10it,000. skins, the ruiteil States' (Joverument Aijcnt stationed on the islands prohibitin;; any further kilUm;. The total exteiinination of the fur-seal, which we foreshadowed in our last, has tlierefore come within m(>asural)le distance, and unless a clos(> time can be airaiiijed immediately, the animal will nndonhtedly become extinct within a very short time. We need scarcely point out that as tin' seals taken by the Canadian schooners at <ea are the females and pups of those visitini; the breedim; islands, this industry will of neeessity disapjx-ar with the extinction of the seal, and in conlirmation of this wo have just rcceiveil a leleirram from Victoria informim^ ns that the seal tisliery in the Rolirinu's Sea has been a failure, the total catch beini,' far below those of preccdin£» TPflrs, althoniih the lishimj-vessels do not appear to have been molested by the United StatPf' (Jovernment cruizers. "We are. &e. (Si!>ncd) C. M. LAMPSON and Co. No. 7. Foreiijn Offic- to Sir C. Lmnpson iind Co. Gentlemen, Furrlijn OtHce, September 0. 1*^90. I A4[ directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to aeknowleflije the receipt of your lett(" of the (ith instant, calling attention to the serious diminution which ajipears to have taken place in the number of fur-seals resortintr to the I'ribylov Islands. [ am, iVc. (Siarned) T. II. S.VNDKESON. No. fi. Adminilty to Foreign Office. — {Received l^epteniher 10.) Sir, Admiraltij, Sfjittinlt'rU, l*-!)!*. 1 AM commanded by my Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty to transiui or the information of the Secretary of State for i'oreijiii Affairs, copy of a teieu:ram dated the Mil September from the Commaudcr-iu-chief on the Pacific Station. I am, &c. (Signed) EVAN MACailEGOR. m • dee ' rsiilea Slates No. 2 (1890)," [•. 336. ! : i ■) ri C 2 IS luclosuro in No. 8 I'ice-Admiral Heneuge to Admiralty. (TclP!»n)phie.) Victori-% Ihitish Columbia, September S, isoo. ON tho 23rd Ausfust four soaliii!? si'liDouei-s loft Holirinij's Sea, roportiiisj vcssilj homeward )30und. Very l>ad cati-h on aeoount of fogiry woathor, "Rush" steanui! round one while huntinj^ seals, and took no notice. No seizure made or auv other interference with sealers. No. 0. Mr, Winton to the Marqiii.i of Salinburi/. — (Received September l.'i.) My Lord, 32, Hulton Strret, Toronto, Canada, September 3, Is'tO. PEIIMIT me to say that I am pleased to he ahle to contirm your Lordshlp'j representations in reply to ^Ir. IMaiue's statenunits respeetiui; the "jmssihlo (li>strue. tion of the Behrinaj's Sea lishery by over-lishiiii; aiul hy tiio irregular slauu;hler of seals " in that quarter. The North Atlantic seal lishery is very similar in ehai-aeter to that of Bolirinir's Sea, and the habits of the animal in botli seas have a i,'ood deal in common. The dissimilarity consists physically only in the eliaraetcr of the fur, and locally in the fiut thci; the Atlantic seal is tiiken, captun^l, or killed either in the water or upon tlie ice witii which it is covei-ed at the season when they are taken, whilst the racitie seal is killed in the water or upon the adjacent islands. May I ask your lA)rdship also to note the fact that when United States' seal- hunters some years aijo (in iMiO-til, 1 think) undertook to comi)ete in our Newfound- land seal fishery no objection whatever was raised by us to their doiu!» so, or even to their outtittiui? in our ports, subject to like duties ujwn their supjjlies and outtits which the local fisherman had to pay ': It was our refusal to permit them to briu^' in tlicir own supplies free of duty, whilst they outtittcnl in other respects from our ports, which induced them in a tit of mere dudi^eon to abandon the fishery. From the inclosetl extract which I take from t'.ie " Toronto Kmpirc " of the 2'>th July your Lordship will ))lea,se to observe that I have taken some pains to tabulate the recorded annual catch of our North Atlantic seals from 1805 to 1SS5 inclusive. This is entii'cly distinct from the catch (of which no record is kept) niaiuly taken from the shore and within the bays and harbours of the island, which is in some years quite large, and would add very considerably to the number. And yet, witli all this annual destruction, there is to-day no jierccjjtiliie diminution of the number of seals. If these animals were not thus destroyed, and their produce utilized, the cod fishery, which to-day constitutes tht> main industry of the Colony, together with our Atlantic salmon and herring fisheries, would almost immediately be destroyed ; for it is entirely upon these fish they prey, aiul the quantity annually consiuued by them is almost incalculable. I have, &c. (Signed) ROBT. WINTON. Inelosure in No. 9. Extract from the " Toronto Empire" of July 28, 1890. TuE Beuring's Sea Seal Fisuert. To the Editor of the " Empire." Sir, 32, Halton Street, July 2i, I'SflO. I HAVE read with much interest that portion of the olVicial correspoiulciice recently laid before the House of Commons on the above controversy between the British and the United States' (lovcrnments, as published in your issue of "Tlie Empire" this morning, and have been much struck by the contrast exhibjted between the vigorous, logical, and perspicuous representations of Lord Salisbury anil tlie \feak and disin^onuous assumptions and propositions of tlie Minister of the UnitoJ States. I am glad to ohscrvo Lord Salisbury's recos?nition of the fact that " it requires somctliiii'? more than a more deelaration " upon the jmrt of a Minister of the United States to bring one to a substantial conclusion as to facts involved in the discussion of iiuir^fiioiies rf'.rut(e l)etwcen the two (iovernnients. It is quitt' possible (as his l^ordship intimates) that in some i-espccts "Mr IMaiiie has been misinformed," as it is equally clear tiiat in othci-s he is neither inlormcd nor misinfonned. In reply to ilr. ]Uain(>*s statement respecting the " irregular slaughter of seals in the open waters of Hehring's Sea," and the tonseciuent iKJssible total destruction of the lisliery in a few years, Lcn-d Salisbury dei-ms it unnecessary to deal with that phase of the (piestion, as it is proposed to submit all the conditions of pelagic sealing to the invest juration of a Committet> U) be appointed by tiie two (lovernments. In the moan- time, liis Ijordship is of opinion tiiat if all sucii sealing was stopped, tlio creature ffoiiKl nudtiply at even a more extraordinary rale than at piesont, an opinion which every praetieal seal-hunter will readily iudoi"se. 'As compared with the North Atlantic seal lishory. the Kolu-ing's Sea fishery is quite a modern and recent industry. Before Hehring discovoii'd either the sea or the >traits to which his name has been given the North Atlantic fishery was an imi)ortaut industry. Uotii fisheries have some features in common, and the habits and clim-acteristics of the animals in both watois ni-e not very dissimilar, esiweially as regards conditions of propagation, gestaticm, &e. Tlie records of our eastern fisliory have been very acouratoly tabulated for nearly a lunidrod years, and the results fully justify Lord Sjilisbury's opinion, and most em]>liatieally confute Mr. Hiaiiu-'s lamentations. In order to show how little justifica- tion there is for 'Sir. Hlaine's prognostications, ! may siy that from lS(t5 to 1885, or ffitliiu the past eighty years, no less than 2s,(100,000 seals have been ea|)tured in the North Atlantic, over and aliove those of which we have no record, and yet 7io per- ceptible reduction of the mass is aiuuially or periodioally visible. The following Table gives the numbers taken in decades from ISOo to 1885 :— The year etuiing 1H13 18-Jj isaa 1845 1 vS j.'l 1 Sli,i 1875 1885 Total to 1885 1.090,000 1,950.024 •l,31'J.t)73 •1,9>.I1,I"0 4,3S8.'J80 3,'»o7,370 ■),115,H00 3,981,360 •JS.Slti,783 Just at this nicmient I have not at hand the figures for tlic ])ast five years, but I think they will not vary materially from the averages given above for the i)re. otHiing like jteriod, except as they may be atl'oeted by the decreased outfit of sailing, vessels and the reduction of the number of steamers now t>mployod in ''he fishery, several of which have been j)urchasod by the United States' Government and converted into ships of war, as, for example, the " Tigress," " Hear," " Thetis," and others, the names of which I am not advised of. Our old and discarded seal-huntei-s, after tifteou or twenty years' seniee and the loss of their first letter, make gallant war-ships for the United States; and, as a remarkable instance of the irony of fate, are occasionally employed on the Pacific in the chase and capture of their eongeuei's engaged in occupations that wei-e not (notwithstanding ilr. lUaine) contra bonos mores in earlier and ' appier days. Could these old stairers speak, how well they might exclaim, "To what base uses do we come at last." But there is (me ])oint in this controversy to which I am desirous of calling the attention of our llei)resentative nt ^\"ashing!on, and of Lord Salisbury himself, and tliat is, that as long ago as 1*^00 tl.e Americans thomselves demanded of us the very right which we now (Icmand of them, and then, as now, we admitted their right to a pmseoution of the North Atlantic seal li^hoiy. quite as much, nay more, a perquisite of our Atlantic provinces as is their i'ehrinir's Sea fishery of the Alaskan and Aleutian annexes. Tor sevenil years the American steainor "MonticoUo" was dis|)atchod to St. .lolin's, Newfimndland, and was ti.ere fitte<l out, provisioned, manned, and equipped foi the pi-oseeutiou of a pelagic industry, the capture of seals in the deep watei-s adjacent to the coasts of that province, ^ho.'uo doubt, took seals within the S-mile limit; ^1 ■t 'i. n w outaide that limit her risfht to take tliom was pcvor questioned. She might have wm, tiniind the prosociifion of thn' industry to this diiy liad Iicr owiicis i'ouikI ni.n in the United States' with sulTicifnt (hiring' aiid|)liiek mid nuisclc lor llic work ; !,iit t!., , were not to ho had, and after one or twn voyau;i!s tlic vcs-d was withdrawn, oidv in oonsequeneo of our refusal tn permit her to oiillit and man in our own jitnls. jiuil i,, enior and clear her supplies, i)r<)U!;ht fnmi the United States, free of tiie eustonis m.^ which our own people were suhjeet to. In this case the A'nerieans then demanded, and we eoueeded, the suae r'^-lnij whieli w'o now demand and they refuse. More, they were a<'tually permitted to l',i out at our own ports u))on the same eoiulitions as our own imtlitters were siiliject t . j leave these faets to Mr. Bluine, for liis consideration, and trust they will not lie l,„t eight of when the prospective Connnittee makes up its Keport. Yours, &c. (Si},'n(>d) R. AVIXTON. No. 10. Forciijn Office to Mr. ll'inton. Sir, Jujielijii 0///V. , Sf'iitf'iiiliir Hi, ]<i i. I AM direeted by tlie Marquis of Salisbury to aeknowled'^'e tiie reeeipt o!' vo.ir letter of the Ih'd instant, relatim* to the seal iisheries in ilie North Atlantic . ilin IBohring's Sea, and 1 am (o return to you his Lordshii)"s thanks for your con, lauiii. cation. I am, &c. (Signed) T. H. SANUEIJSON. No. 11. Sir J. Pmiticefnte to llir Marquis of iSalisburi), — {lieceireil Septembrr 22.) My Lord, Maynoliu, September 11, iS'.Kt. I HAVE the honoiu" to transmit herewith copy of a Mill entitled, "A Hill to amend the Act entitled, ' An Act providini; a Civil (iovernment for Alaska.' " The words in italics constitute the amendment by which jurisdiction is proiiojcd to he (conferred on the Supreme Court. The rest is exactly as the Statute now stands. T hav.-, -^c. (Si-ued) .JULIAN I'AUNCEFOTK Inclosure in No. 11. 61»< Congress, 1st Session .—il, R. 11079. In the IIocse of Reimikskntatives. September 8, 1890. — Read twice, referred to the C<nnmittec on the .Judiciary, and ordered to he printed. Mr. Thompson- introduced the foUowini? Bill :— A Rill to amend the Act entitled, " An Act prnridimj a Civil Government for Alaskn." BE it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, that section 7 of the Act approved the 17th May, 1S84, Chapter 53, be, and the same is hereby, amended to read as follow.s : — "Sect. 7. That the General Laws of the State of Oregon now in force are lierebv declared to be the Law in said district so far as the same may he applicable, and not in conflict with the provisions of this Act or the Laws of the United States ; and tlic /sentewee of imprisonment in any criminal case shall bo carried out by coufincmjnt in the (jnol or ppnitiMifinry liorohmffpi- ]m)vi(lc(I for. Hut fhc snid District Court shall liavp <'\c'Iiisiv(' .iiirisdictimi in uii cases in (•(|iiity, or those involvinj^ a (|UPstion of title tolnnd, i»r mining riiflits. or the eniistitnti<innlity of a T-iw .nnrl in ;ill criniitKil olTencos wliii'li nre efipitfvl. In nil civil <'!ises nt onninion !;i\v, iiny issue of fact sliall ho dotcr- inined hy jUrv, at the instance; of either party, and an a|)|)eal shall lie in any case, civil or e'rinu'nni, for the jndj^ment of said Comniisssioiiers to the said District Court, whore tin' nmoiint involved In any civil case is 200 dollars or more, and in any criminal ca<(' where a tine of more than 100 dollars or iini)risf)nnient is imposed, i.pon the fllinji; of a sntllcii'iit apoeal hond hy Ihe party ai)pciilinir, to he approved hy the Court or (^oiinnissioner. Writs of error in ('rimina! cases shall Issue lo the said District Court from tlie Fnited States' ('ircuit Court for the District of Oregon in the cases provided in Clinpter 17<5 of the JiTws of ls70, and the jurisdiclioii tlierehy conferred >ipou tho Circuit Courts is herehy ^'iven to the Circuit Court of Oregon ; iinil IlicJiniilJudymenln or /)' rcf'w of said Di.iirlct Court iiini/ ho rcv'wvrd hy tlir siiid Circuit Court In civil rit.sns in llie .■intiif intiDiifi- (iiid with tlir lila: cff'prt it.t fimil .hidtjmrntu or Decrecu of the United Status' l)i.itrirt Court for the District of Orn/nn : and till' final .Tndi,'m(Mits or Decrees of sjiid (InMiit Court and District Court may he reviewed hy the Supreme Court of the United Rtntes as in other eases." Xo. 12. fiir J. Paunrcfote to the Marquis of Halislmrij. — (lirceirfd Septtmhpr 29.) Mv Lord, Matjnolia, Mn.smchusetts, l^rptember 10, 18\)0, WITH reference to my despatch of the 2tth July last, I have the honour to inclose, in the form of a Memoranduni, sonu' olisiivations on Mr. Blaine's note of thi! ;iUtli .Inne last. They are suu'ijestcd hy certain jiassa^^cs in Mr. .Tohn Quincy Adams' (Ipspatchcs relatin;; to tlie I'ussian Ukase of JM2J, which do not appear in the ciirrespondeuce on the subject laid hefore Coiiijress in 1H80, but which seem to me to (dnfuvn in a rcmavkah'.e way the views expressed in your Lordship's despatch of tho im\ August. I am, &e. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 12. \nte on Mr, lilttine's Inter protation of .Ur. J. Quincy Adams' Despatch to Mr. Middleton ofJuhj'l'l, 182.i. MH. IILAINE, in his not<' of the 150th -Inne, 1S90, arijues at great length to A\m- tl-at Mr. Adams, in his despatcli to Mr. ]Sriddleton of tlu^ 22nd July, 1823, did iidt dis])u1e tli(! claim of l^ussia to exclusive jurisdiction over that part of the Vacific Oconn now known ns Hehring's Sea, hut that he only protested against tl»o Imperial I'kase of 1821 so far as it ndated to the claim of Russia to territorial dominion on tho continent of America south of the fj.'ith parallel, and to exclusive maritime juris- (iiotion south of the Aleutian Islands. It is to he regretted that in the printed correspondence relating to the Imperial Uknse of 1821, presented to Congress in 1885), certain passages from Mr. Adams' desimtches should have heen omitted, as they arc absolutely fatal to ilr. Blaine's contention. In the first place, in a paper accompanying Mr. Adams' instructions to Mr. Middleton (hut which paper docs not appear in the printed correspondence above refon-ed to), the following jmssage occurs with reference to Russia's claim of maritime jurisdiction from Hehring's Strait to 45" 50' on the Asiatic coast and to 51 on the American coast : — " Th(> right of navigation and of tlshing in the raciflc Ocean, even on the Asiatic coast north of latitude 15°, can as little he interdicted to the United States as that of traifio with the natives of North America." President Angell, who cites the above passage in his article in th»' Eorum of Novi'ml)er 1889, makes the following comment upon it : — " After reading such language from Mr. Adams, can any one doubt what his answer would have been to a ppoiioeition by llussia to concede that the Pacific south il lA lio r>5th pamllol was nn open son, Init that tlio port north of it formed a close soa wln'di slic liad cxHiisivo 'nirisdu'tion ? " of the ovor wlnY'li slic liad cxcliisivo i\irisdi<'i An equally im])()rtant ))aasaf»(' is also omitted in the eorrospondcnee proscntcd to Conirress. It is to lie found in the despateh addressed hy Mr. Adams to Mr. \\m\^ the United States' Minister in I^)n(l(>n, inclosini; eopiea of his Instnicfions t(' Mr, Middleton, and directing him to confer freely on the suhject with the Hritisli Government, hoth Governments heiiip united atjainst the Imperial Ukase of ]h->\ This despateh, which is of even date with the instructions to Mr. Middleton (22n(l,Iulv 182.1), is reforred to by Ur. Dana at p. 97; of his Sth edition of Whcatcm's "11,10;; national Law " (note on the Monroe doctrine appended to section fi7), for tin- imi|KM' of showing that the paternity of the Monroe doctrine lielnns;s to Mr. Adams. Kut jt has an important hearing on the point raised hy Mr. Hlaine. as it contains a clear aud contemporaneous exposition hy Mr. Adams himself of his views in relation to the freedom of navigation of the Tacific Ocean in its entirety. In this despatch Mr. Adams, after contending that the entire continent was closed to any new establishment hy any European Power, proceeds as follows : — " A necessary consequence of this state of things will be that the American Continents henceforth will no longer be suhject to colonization. Occupied hy eiviliz(>(l nations, they will be accessible to Europeans and ench other on that footing alnnp, and the Pacific Ocean, in every part of it, will remain open to the navigation of all nations in like manner with the Atlantic." Mr. Blaine, in his note of the .SOth .Tune, observes that ^Ir. Adams, at an intervieff with Haron Tuyl in July 1823, had foreshadowed the doctrine Avhich four montiis later was asserted by President ^lonroe, in his Annual ^Message to Congress. Hut he makes no allusion to the passage above cited from Mr. Adams' desiwtch to Mr. Ihish, probably because it is omitted from the text of the despatch, as printed at p. 212 of the Correspondence presented to Congress. It appears to me to confirm in a remarkable way the view of historians and jurists, that the purpose of Mr. Adams' despatch to Mr. Middleton of the 22nd July, 1S23, was not only to opjiose the territorial claim of Russia, but to vindicate the freedom of navigation of the I'aiilic Ocean " in every part of it." Thus, Calvo states that the result of the Treaty of 1«:H, betAveen Russia and the United States, was to secure freedom of navigation and tislipry "danstoute IV-tendue dc I'Ocean Pacifiquc" (\o\. i, p. 115, 4th edit.). The United States' Government cannot seriously contend thai Mehring's Sea was not a pnrt nf the Pacific Ocean in the contemplation of Mr. Adams, for not only was the term " Hi'lirint; Sea '■ unknown at the time of the Treaty of 182 1. hut evcm in the Treaty ot Cession nf Alaska of the 20th June, 18(57, the "island of Atton and Copper Island (of the Kormandorski group) are described as bring in the "North Pacific Ocean." ^[orcoviT, in 1842, Russia refused to interfere with the operations of American whalers in Behring's Sea when pressed to do so by the Russian American Company, on the ground that the Treaty of 1S2 1 gave to American citizens the right of fishing " over the mIioIc extent of the Pacific Ocean."* Indeed, since the Treaty of 1821', and that with Great Britain of 1825, Russia has never attemjited to exercise maritime jurisdiction over foreign vessels in Behring's Sea outside of the territorial waters. This alone should dispose of the claim of the United States to exercise such jurisdiction within 100 miles of the coast of Alaska, for it pur))orts to have been derived from Russia in 1867, while it was renounced by Russia herself in 1824. As regards the right of fishery whieli Hows from the right of navigation, Calvo, in his work on International Law (4th edition, § 3.')7), cites the claim of Denmark to tiie Greenland fisheries, based on long usage and on recognition by Treaties. Altiiou!,'h she reduced her claim to seventy-five miles from the coast the other nations refusi'd to admit her pretensions, on the ground that as no nation can acquire by usage or by Treaty any property in the high seas, therefore no nation can extend the limits of its territorial waters. Calvo adds : — " Si de pareillcs derogations aux principes universellement reconnus ont lieu, e'est qu'elles sont dictees par un int»5ret maritime de premier ordre, notammcnt I'expioi- tation de peches c6ti^res d'une nature exceptionnelle, des bancs d'huitres ou ;iutres coquillages ; il faut quellcs so renferment dana la limite de I'ohjet special qiiilcsa fait adopter ; et ellcs ont besoin pour devenir obligatoircs, d'etre sanctioiineeif pur da Convenlions expresses et e'crltes," J. P. • Bancroft's " History of the Pacific Sutea," vol. sxviii, p 583 r . 17 No. 13. Admiralty to Foreign Office. — {Received October 7.) Sir, Admiralty, October 4,, 1800. I A^r commanded by the I^ords Commissioners of the Admiralty to transmit, for the i)crii.snl of the Secretary n( State for Poreitjn Affairs, an extract of a letter fri.Mi the Coiuniantler-in-cliie* on the racific Station, (htiMl the lOth September, reporting (1,0 r(>tiirn of the 8ealini,'-sehooners frotn iJehrins;'* Sea. ^fy Lords desire me to call parti<;nlar attentio i to paragraph (5 of Roar-Admiral llotham's letter, in which it is stated that two-tliiris of the catch consisted of female senls, sliowini; the necessity of some agreement to prevent tlie extermination of a valuable fishery. I am, &c, (Signed) EVAN MACOllEOOR. Inclosnvo in No. 13. , Rear-Admiral Hofham to Admiralty. (Extract.) " Warspile," at EsquimuU, September 10, 1800. I HAVE to request yon will bring to Wni notice of the Lords Commissioners ol the A<lmiralty this lett(U' with reference; to my telegram of the 8tli instant. I personally saw the masters of the sealing-schooners named below, and obtained from tliem the information herein reported ; — Captain C. Cox, schooner " Sapphire." Captain Petit, schooner " Mary Taylor." Captain Hackett, schooner " Annie Seymour." Captain W. Cox, schooner " Triumph." They left the Behring's Sea on the 23rd August, and reached Victoria, British Columbia, in thirteen days. This season has been the worst they have experienced (Captain Cox, of the " Triumph," having been sealing for five years), and state it is diip to the bad weather they experienced in July, which is the month they always make the biggest catch ; as for twenty-ono days, then, nothing but heavy fog was exporicnced, and they consequently could not get out their boats and canoes to hunt ; they state they saw of plenty of seals whenever it cleared a little. Mr. Ilackott, of the "Annie Seymour," says be met the American cruizer "Rush," while his boats were roimd the schooner, actually engaged in sealing, and the cruizer steamed round them, but took no notice whatever ; ho had his colours flying, and after about half-an-hour she steamed away. None of the other schooners they spoke Avith bad met with any interference, or been spoken to by the cruizers. They knew of tbo " lUish " having been to Sand llead, Siuimagin Group, and served a rroelamation on board the " Ariel," but, as they were at Ncrth-Plast Bay, they had not met her then. They also mentioned that two-thirds of their catch consisted of female seals, but that after the 1st July very few indeed were captured " in pup," and that when sealing outside the Behring's Sea, round the coast, on the way up (where this year the lieaviest catches were made), they acknowledged that seals " in pup " were frequently captured. One captain stated he saw what ho thought to bo an English man-of-war, but as this could not have been, the A'essel may have been the United States' surveying- ship " Albatross," or a Russian man-of-war or cruizer, though I have no intelligence of any of the Siberian fleet being in those jjarts. I might add tiiat tbe sealers say they heard rumours of a new seal-rookery heing formed on 3Iiddleton Island, which is outside the Behring's Sea, but -Vnierican territory. (l\ i I; V , [96] 1ft No, It. Admiraltif to Foreign Oj/tce. — [lieceiveil October \4.) Sir, Admiriiltij, October 14, IfiflO, I AM commanded by my Lords CominissioiuTs id' (ho Admiralty to transmit, for the information of the Secretary of State for l"\)rei;^n AH'airH, copy of a telcnrram^ datad the I4th instant, from the Comiuander-in-eliief on the I'aeiiic Statiim. I nm, &c. (Signed) EVAN MACGRKGOR. Inclosuro in No. 11. Jtear-Admiral Hat ham to Admiral tij. (Telegraphic.) ALL the scaling schooners iiavc returned " Warspite," at Victoria, October 14, 1800, No. 15. The ^fnr(|lli.'> of Salishimi to Sir J. Pauncrfotr. Sir, Foreign Ojjivr, October 22, 1890. YOUR despatch of th(! 2KtIi .Tii'y last, inclosinfi; a Jetter from ^Ir. lilaino under date tlio l!)tii July, re;ud\ed nie shortly boforo the close of the Session of I'mlia. mont. I did not aiis\v(>r it at the time, ehieliy because 1 did not think it desinilili' to mix up -what seemed to me a ci'»u(roversy on a very imiuiportant and seeoudarv point with the more serious (piestions which were in issue between the two (lovmi- ments, and to which the correspdndenc" then '^'oiiii,' ou specially apidied. I understand from you that Mr. Mlaiue ".las since asked whotlier you have received any answer tn that desivatch, aiul, therefore, 1 will uiako some observations upon it now, altlioutjli it appeai-s '.o me to contain little that alleets any (juestion of public importance. I understand his complaint to be that, in a conversation with Mr. I'liplps, reported by that gentleman in a I'.espatch dated the 25th February, 188S, I liail asseiiied to the American proposition to establish, by mutual aiTangemeut Ixitwoen the Governments interest<>(l, a close time for fur-seals between the 15th April and the 1st November in each year, and between KMf west longitude and 170° cast longitude in the Bohriag's Sea ; that I had undertaken to cause an Act to bo introduced in I'arliament to give elVect to this arrangement as soon as it could be prepared, and that I subsequently receded from those engagements. The conversation in question took jjlaco on the 22nd Tcbruary, 1888, and my own record of it, written on the same day in a despatch to yoiu" predecessor, is as follows : — "Mr. Phelps then made a proposal on the bases embodied in Mr. Bayard's despatch of the 7th February, a C()])y of which accompanies my previous despatch of this day's date. Mr. Bayard there expresses the opinion that the only way of preventing the destruction of tlic seals would bi; by concentrated action on the part of the United States, Great Britain, and other interested Powers, to prevent tlieir citizens or subjects from killing fur-seals witii iire-arms or other destructive weapons north of 50° north latitude, and between lOU" west longitude and 170° east longitude from Greenwich, during the period intervening between the 15th April and the 1st November. I expressed to Air. I'helps the entire rcadiuoss of Her Majesty's Govern- ment to join in an Agreemeut, \vith Russia an.d the United States to establish a close time for seal fishing north of some latitude to be fixed." It results from these two records tliat Mr. Phelps understood mo to accept en hkc the proposals of the Governnn i of the United States; while my own intention and my own recollection of the conversation was, that I merely accepted the general principle of a close time north of some degree of latitude to bo subsequently fixed. This difference in the two reports of the same conversauon, though not in itself very wide, unfortunately covers the controvin-sy between the two Governments, at least in its earlier stage ; for the matter in dispute between us was the extent of the aiva and the season over which tho close time was to extend, and not the expediency of a close time in principle. Mr. Blaine speaks of Mr. Phelps as having been long kno\ra in his country as an able lawyer, accurate in the use of words, and discriminating in the statement of facts. In tliat tril)ute to Mr. Phelps' high intellectual qualities I 10 jniu most unrcRPrvodly, as far as my own no(|uaintnnrp with liini enabled mo to judge. But it is nothing; unlioard of that a man, liowovc- liii^lilr i^'ifiod in this respect, should, in ri't'onlin!? tliiec days nt'tcrwards a i'»)nv(Tsati()n w' ere no kind of note ww taken, and no rlTort made to dclhif (he ox press! )ns of opinion wliieli were oxehanged, liave slifr'itly miseoneeivod the extent to whieh assent was «;iven to his own pi-oposals. My recolleetion remains nnehani^ed, that I never inteiuled to assent and never dkl assent to the detailed proposals which were ])nt forward on hehalf of the United States, roserv in u: my opinion on them for fuller eonsideration ; Imt that I expressed tlic fullest eon(;urrenee on tlu^ ])art of ller ilajesty's (Jovernment in tho f^ennral principle on whie.h those proposals proceeded, namely, the ('stahlishment of siieli eloBC time as should lie necessary to preserve the species of fiu"-s(>als from extermination. Hcyond this issue on the particular (piestion of fact, whether f did or did not assent to tlw proposals of the Unil(>(l States as nnrescrvedly as ^Ir. I'hrdps ima-^incd, there is a lari,'er (pu'stion in re;;ard to which I must respectfully dilTer from the opinion expressed by ,Mr. iSlaine. lie spealcs of thesi" conversations as consliliitinu; an Agreement, am! alludes to one of tliem under the name of the Ai,'reement of tho :!5tli February. I do nut think that this was the obiec! which the jiarlies had in view in the conversation to wbieli Mr. ]51aine n'l'ers. They were not makini^ bindini,' stipn- liitlons or definitive Acrrec^ments. No word, as far as I renuMnher, was uttered on on(! side or the other to indicate that so unusual a meanini; was attached to the lant?uaf^o used. The\ were, as such convers.iticms usually are, preliminary conversations, intended to lead u[» to an AL,'r(>cment. If the Avords iitteriMl in a conversation at ffliich no notes are taken are intended to constitute in any sense or degree an Agree- ment between persons takinijf ]»art in tiio cun "-alion, it seems to mo essential tliat the subsequent rec(jrd which contains the piia (<s which ait; to be construed as an Agreement should bo drawn up with the ccueurrenee of both tho parties who have taken part in the conversation. Any other ruiirse must necessarily lead to misunder- standing. If Mr. ]Uaine should revert to tiio matte- auuin you may read to him this despatch, but I do not think tho question is of sullicieiit importance to require any communication on your part xmless he should refer specially to it. I am, &e. (Sign(«d) SALISBUEY. No. 10. Sir J. Pmmcefole to the Miinntis of Salinhunj. — {Received November 12.) (Telcgrapbic.) V. U'a.ihin</ton, Nocvmber 12, 1800. I TAILEl) in my elTorts to SCO ^^Fr. Blaine until to-day, when I reminded him of your Lordship's projjosal of arbitration in the Behring's Sea controversy, and pressed him for an answer in view of the ai)|)roaebinic meeting of Parliament, lie said that the delay in sending an answer was due to the pressure of home politics during the recess. lie was, howevi^r, now engaged in writing lue a note in answer to my note of the 12th August, in which 1 conuuuiiicalcd to him your Lordship's despatch of the 2nd August. This note lu; said would be delivcn-ed belore the meeting of Parlia- ment or the reassembling of Congress, and would, he thought, advance matters. In the meantime any further discussion is deferred. ' • No. 17. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Munniin of Salinbttry. — {Received Xovember 17.) My Lord, Washing ton, November 7, 1890. I HAVE the honour to transmit herewith two copies of the transcript of record in the appeal case of the schooner " Sylvia Handy " v. the United States. The "Sylvia Handy " is an American vessel, and her owners, who are American eitizcns, appeal against lu>r eoudeiimation and forfeitures by the District Court of Alaska for engaging in tho fur-sivil lishery m ilehriug's Sea 17 miles from land. It will be contended on this a|)peal that the Act of Congress under which tho seizure was made has no application outside of the territorial waters of Alaska ; and that, if it purports to control the waters of Bcluring's Sea beyond 1 marine league from the shore, it is unconstitutional and abortive. [96] - D 2 % 1 i , 'UKr t 20 This appeal case was numbered 683 in the last term of the Supreme Court. It i, now numbered 373, and it may possibly come up for hearing before the expiration of the present term. Although different considerations apply to the case of an American vessel, the Court may be called on to give a construction to the words in clause 1950 of llio Revised Statutes of the United States, " within the limits of Alaska Tcrritorv or in the waters thereof," which will settle the question of law adversely to tli'e contention of the United States' Government, and irrespectively of the uationalitv nf the vessel. nationality of I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 17. Transcript of Record. Supreme Court op the United States. October Term, 1889, No. 683. The Schooner " Sylvia Handy," her Tackle, Apparel, Sfc; L. A^. Handy, James Carthcui, J. N. Handy, and William Thomas, Owners, Appellants, v. the United States. Appeal from the District Court of the United Stales for the District of Alaska. (Mlcd June 16, 1888.) In the United States' District Court in and for the District of Alaska, United States of America. To the Honourable La Fayette Dawson, Judge of said District Court. THE libel of information of M. D. Ball, Attorney for the United States for the District of Alaska, Avho prosecutes on l)ehalf of the said United States, in tlio name and on behalf of the said United States, alleges and informs as follows, to wit : — That M. A. Hcaly, an officer in the Revenue Marine Service of the United States, duly commissioned by the President of the United States, in command of the revenue-cutter " Bear," and on special duty in the waters of the District of Alaska, heretofore, to wit, the 2nd day of September, a.d. 1887, Avithin tlie limits of Alaska Territory and in the waters thereof, and within the Civil and Judicial District of Alaska, to wit, ■within the waters of that portion of Behring's Sea belonging to the United States and said district, on waters navigable from the sea by vessels of 10 or mim' tons burden, seized the scliooner " Sylvia Handy," of San Francisco, California, her tackle, apparel, boats, cargo, and furniture, being the property of some person or persons unknown to said Attorney. The |)roperty is more ]iartieularly described as follows, to wit : The sclioonor "Sylvia Ilandy," of San Francisco, California, of 67 1',") tons burden as per register, standing and running rigging, sails, chronometer and nautical instruments, clock, lamps, carpenters' tools, books, anchors, casks, cooking and table utensils, provisions, rifles and shot-guns and ammimiticm for the same, and 1,079 fur-seal skins, and all other property found upon or appurtenant to said schooner. That M. A. Ilealy was then and there duly commissioned and authorized by the proper Department of the United States to make said seizure ; that all said property wai then and th(!re seized as forfeited to the United States for the following causes : That the said vessel and her captain, officers, and crew were then and there found engaged in killing fur-seals within the limits of Alaska Temtory, and in the said waters thereof, in violation of Section 1950 of the Revised Statutes of the United States. That all the said property, after being seized as aforesaid, was brought into the port of Sitka, in said district, and turned over to the United States' M-^slial ot tills district, with t\u\ exception of cue said 1,()79 fur-seal skins, which latU-r were brought into the port of Ounalaska, in said Territory, and delivered into the keeping of J. B. Johnston, a special agent of the United States' Marshal, subject to Jiiitcd Stall's of % the order of the Court, and all of said property is now within the Judicial District of Alaska, United States of America. And said M. D. Ball, Attorney as aforesaid, further informs and alleges — That on the 2nd day of Septemhcr, a.d. 1887, and at divers otlier times during the month of August 1887, J. L. Carthcut and certain other persons, whose names are to the said United States' Attorney unknown, who were then and there engaged on hoard of said schooner •' Sylvia Handy " as seamen and seal-hunters, did, under the direction and by the authority of Jas. L. Carthcut, then and there master of said schooner, engage in the killing, and did kill, in the Territory and District of Alaska, and in the waters thereof, forty-two fur-seals, in violation of Section 1956 of the llevised Statutes of the United States in such cases made and provided. That the said 1,679 fur-seal skins and other goods so seized on hoard the schooner " Sylvia Handy " constituted the cargo of said schooner at the time of the killing of said fur-seals and at the time of said seizure. Ard said Attorney saith that all and singular the premises were and are true and ivithin the Admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the United States and of this honourahle Court, and that hy reason thereof and hy force of the Statutes in such cases made and provided the aforementioned schooner, being a vessel of burden, and her said apparel, tackle, boats, cargo, and furniture, became and are forfeited to the use of the said United States. Wherefore the said Attorney prays that the usual process and monition of this honourable Court issue in the behalf against said schooner and all said hereinbefore- described property, to enforce the forfeiture thereof, and requiring notice to bo given to all persons to appear and show cause on the return day of said process why said forfeiture should not bo d«!creed, and that after duo proceedings are had all said property to be adjudged, decreed, and condemned as forfeited to the use of the United States, and for such other relief as may bo proper in the premises. (Signed) M. D. BALL, United States' Dintrict Attorney for the District of Alaska. (By A. K. Delaney, Special Assistant Attorney for the United States.) Dated September 15, 1887. Endorsed: H. No. 93. 1. United States' District Court, District of Alaska. The United States against the schooner " Sylvia Handy." Libel of information. Filed the 16th September, 1887. H. E. Haydon, Clerk, by A. A. Meyer, Deputy Clerk. In the United States' District Court for the District of Alaska. United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy." No. m.— Claim. Comes now James L. Carthcut, one of the owners and master of the above-named scliooncr, mtervcning for his own interest and in behalf of those owning with him in the said schooner " Sylvia Handy," and appears before this honourable Court and makes claim to the said schooner, her tackle, apparel, furniture, and cargo, as the same are now attached by the United States' Marshal for the District of Alaska, at the instance of the Revenue Department of the United States, and the said James L. Carthcut avers that he is part owner and master of said vessel, and was in possession of said Nessel at the time of the seizure thereof, and that ho in conjunction with L. N. Handy and Joseph Handy and William Thomas are the sole, only, and bond fide liwners of said schooner ; that no other person or persons own any interest therein. Wherefore he prays this honourable Court to be allowed to defend accordingly. (Signed) ' J. L. CARTHCUT. Sworn to and subscribed this 15th day of September, a.d. 1887. Before me, (Signed) H. E. Haydon, Clerk, United States' District Court. (By A. A. Meyer, Deputy Clerk.) (Seal.) (Signed) W. Clauk, Proctor for Claimant. ; I % t :\' H! Jt. 1 22 Endorsed : H. No. 93. 2. United States i;. schooner " Sylvia Handy." Claim Piletl the lOtli Scptemhcr, 1887. II. E. llaydon, Clerk, by A. A. Meyer, Deputy Clerk. W. Clark, proctor for claimant. In the United States' District Court for the District of Alaska. Un'ted Stalen v. Schooner " Syhia Handy." No. 93. — Dfrnurirr, At this time comes W. Clark, Esq., proctor for the claimant of the proportr proeeetled against in the ahovo cansc, and demurs to tho libel of information fiH herein. The said claimant, by iirotestation, not confessim? all or any of thi> inattm in the said information contained to be true, demurs tborelo and says that the m\ matters in manner and form as the same are in said infnrmntion stated and sot Ibnli arc not snlficient in la^- for the United )*t;ites to maintain their said action for the foi'feiture of the property aforesaid, and that the said claimant is not bound by Inw to answer the same; Avherefore the said claimant prny:3 that the said inforniiition 1>; dismissed, with costs. (Signed) W. CLAllK, Proctor for Owners'. Endorsed: H. No. 93. 3. United States r. schooner '• Svlvia Handy." Demurrer. iPilod tlie 19th September, 1887. II. E. llaydon, Clerk, by A. A. Meyer, Deputy Clerl W. Clark, pi-octor for chiimants. In the United States' District Court for the District of Alaska. United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy," No. 93. — Anmver of James L. Carthcul, ^faster and Part Owner. And now comes James L. Cartheut,. claimant as aforesaid, and for answer to tiic libel of information filed herein says : — 1. He admits that M. A. Ilealy was an ofllccr of the United States' Revcnuo Marine Ser^-ice, duly commissioned, and that ho was at tlic time the property proceeded against herein M-as seized in command of the United States' rev(Miue-cutter " Bear," iind on official duty at the time the said seizure was inadc, and was then and there dul) commissiojied and authorized by the proper Department of the United States to make said seizure, but denies that said seizure was niadt; within the waters of Alash Territory or within the Civil and Judicial District of Alaska, or in any portion of Behring's Sea belonging to the United States, or upon any otiicr watei"s bclougini; to libellants navigable from the sea by vessels of 10 tons or over. 2. Denies that said vessel, her captain. ollUers, a".d crew, Avero tiien and thv found engaged in killing fur-seals within tli(> limits of Alaska Territory, or in the watc^ thoreof, or that thev were then and there violatinu' anv liaw of the United States. 8. Denies that on the 2nd day of September, a.d. 1N87, any other person or poi-sons did then and there, under the direction and authority of the said James L. Carthont or any otlun* person or at all, kill any fur-seal Avithin the District of Alaska, or in the waters thereof. 4. Denies that the property proceeded against in this cause or any jjortiou thereof | ever became forfeited to the United States. Wherefore the said claimant prays that the libel of information tiled hei-ein may be dismissed, and for any other just and equitable relief as to this Court may seem meet and proper. (Signed) J. L. CARTilCLT, Sworn to and subscribed this IGth day of September, a.d. 1887. I3efore me, (Signed) II. E. IIayjjox, Clerk, United States' District Court. (By A. A. Meyer, Deputy Clerk.) (Seal.) (Signed) W. Clark, Proctor for Claimant. Endorsed ; II. No. 93. 4. United States v. schooner " Sylvia Handy." Answer. FUed tlic 19th September, 1887. II. E. Haydon, Clerk, by A. A. Meyer, Deputy, ^, Clark, proctor for claimant. Return. Sitka, District of Alaska, sect. : Be it remembered that, in obedience to the annexed monition, I have attached the within-described property and now hold tho same in my possession, subject to the order oi this honoumble Court ; and the owners and claimants of said property havin"' in writing, filetl in Court this day, Avaived notice of publication and posting of the libel and seizure, I therefore have notified all persons claiming said property to be and appear before this District Court on the IDtli day of September, 1887, at 3 o'clock P.ii,, then and there to make their claims and allegations in that behalf. (Signed) BARTON ATKINS, United States' Marshal, District of Alaska. Sitka, Alaska, September 19, 1867. t otorfor Owners. CAETHCLT, United States' Pistrict Court for the District of Alaska. District of Alaska, sect. : Tiie President of the United States of America to the Marshal of tho District of Alaska, greeting : Whereas a libel of infovmatiou liath been filed in the District Court of the United Mates for tlie District of Alaska on tlie luth day of September, in the year 1887, by Honourable M. 1). Bail, United States' Attorney for tli(> district aforesaid, on behalf of the United States of America, against the sehooner " Sylvia Handy," her tackle, apparel, boats, ear^o, and l,(J7l) fur-seal skins, furnitiu'c, as forfeited to the use of the I'uited States' for the reasons set forth in said libel of information, iiiul praying the usual process and monition of said Court in that behalf to be made, and that all liereons interested in said schooner " Sylvia Handy," her tackle, appui*"!, boats, cargo, and said sealskins and furniture, etc., may be cited in general and special to answer the premises, and, all proceedings being had, that the said schooner " Sylvia Handy," her tackle, apparel, boats, cargo, said seal-skins and furniture, may, for the causes in the said libel of information mentioned, be condemned as forfeited to the use of the United States. You aro therefore hereby commanded to attach the said schooner " Sylvia Handy," her tackle, apjiarel, boats, cargo, and said sealskins and furniture, to detain tho same in your custody until the further order of the Coiu't resp(?cting the same, and to give notice to all persons claiming the same or knowing or having anything to say why the same should not lie condemned and sold pursuant to the prayer of the said libel of information that they be and appear before the said Court, to be held in and for the District of Alaska on the lUtli day of iSeptember, 1887, at 3 o'clock in tho after- noon of the same day, if the same shall be a day of jurisdiction, otherwise on tho next day of jurisdiction thereafter, then and there to interpose a claim for the same and to make their allegations in that behalf ; and what you shall have done in the premises do you then and there make returns thereof, together with this writ. Witness, the Honourable La Fayette Dawson, Judge of said Court, and the seal thereof affixed at tlie city of Sitka, in the District of Alaska, this 15th day of September, in the year of our Lord 1887, and of the independence of the United States the 112th. (Signed) H. E. HAYDON, Clerk, United States' District Court, (Seal.) (By A. A. Meyer. Deputy Clerk.) Endorsed : II. 5. No. 93. In the United States' District Court for the District of Alaska. The United States v. schooner " Sylvia Handy." Monition. Returned and tiled the 19th September, 1887. H. E. Haydon, Clerk, by A. A. Meyer, Deputy. ^ I In tho United States' District Court for the District of Alaska. United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy." No. 93. — Waiver of Publicntion of Notice. And now comes W. Clark, Esq., proctor for tho owners of the above-named schooner, as appears by their claim filed herein, and on behalf of said owners, and being authorized thereto, waives said owners' right to publication and posting of the notice of the libel and seizure of the property being proceeded against in this cause, and waives also time of hearing and announces himself ready to proceed to trial. (Signed) W. CLARK, Proctor for ClaimanlD. Endoracd : H. 0. No. 93. United States v. schooner " Sylvia Handy." Waiver, Filed the 19th September, 1887. H. E. Ilaydon, rJlerk, by A. A. Meyer, Deputy Clerk. W. Clark, proctor for owners. In the United States' District Court, District of Alaska. In the Matter of the United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy." — No. 93. At this time comes W. Clark, proctor for claimnnts, and moves tho Court for leave to file a demurrer to the libol of information filed herein. September 19, 1887. Endorsed : 7. Demurrer. In the United States' District Court, District of Alaska. In the Matter of the United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy." — No. 93. Now, at this time, come ihe parties above named, by their respective attorneys, Mr. A. K. Delaney for plaintiff, and M. W. Clark for defendant ; and this cause coming on to be heard upon tho demurrer of libel therein, and the Court being fully advised in the premises, it is considered and ordered that the demurrer be, and the same is hereby, overruled. September 19, 1887. Endorsed : 8. Overruling Demurrer. In the United States' District Court, District of Aiaslrs. In the Matter of the United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy." No. 93. — Anstoer. And now comes James L. Carthcut, by W. Clark, Esq,, master of the above- named schooner, and moves the Court for leave to file an answer to the libel of information herein. It 18 considered and ordered by the Court that leave be granted. September 19, 1887. Endorsed : 9. Answer. # In the United States' District Court, District of Alaska. In the Matter of the United Slates v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy." No. 93.— Claim of Oumera. Comes now W. Clark, proctor for claimants, and moves the Court for leave to file claim of master for owners. It is considered and ordered by the Court that leave be granted. September 19, 1887. Endorsed: 10. Claim. In the District Court of the United States for the District of Alaska. United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy." No. 93. — Evidence for Prosecution, By Mr. Delaney. — I am John C. Moore, Tliird Lieutenant of the revenue-cutter " Bear," and I was such on the 2nd September last. I was present at the seizure of the schooner " Sylvia Handy " on the 2nd. We were in latitude 54° 12' north and longitude 166° 50', 17 miles from Cape Cheerful. Captain Healy is Commander of the "Bear,'' R.M.S., U.S. I was boanUng officer, sent by Captain Healy, in company with Alexander Wilson ; boarded the vessel, and found she had forty-two seals on deck, unskinned. I reported the fact to Captain Healy, who ordered me to seize the vessel. I returned and told the captain that I had orders to seize the vessel. He said be would submit, but on protest. James Carthcut was in command of the vessel. Captain did not state how long he had been in Behring's Sea, but said he thought he had a perfect right to sealing in the sea if he was 3 miles from shore. This was in waters from the sea navigable by vessels of 10 or more tons burdon. The schooner was taken to Ounalaska; the skins taken out and stored ii. the Government warehouse. By Court. — There were 1,637 skins below, and 42 on deck. Cross-examined by Mr. Clark. The only authority you had for making this seizui-e were Captain Healy's orders ? -Yes, Sir. By whose order did you deliver those skins to Ounalaska ? — Under Captain Healy's orders. Who did you deliver them to ? — I did not deliver them myself, but have a receipt for them. Who did ?— The Captain. Were you in command of the vessel ? — Yes, Sir. He ordered you to deliver the skins in Oimalaska ? — Yes, Sir. You say you were ordered to deliver the skins in Ounalaska? — Yes, Sir; I delivered them to Captain Healy in Ounalaska. You stated those skins were placed in the Government coal-house ? — Yes, Sir ; in charge of the United States' Marshal. What was his name ? — Isaac Anderson. Have you a receipt for the skins ? — Yes, Sir ; I have not got it here, but I can ijetit. Counsel here produces papers for identification. Witness identifies them- Redirect : Mr. Delaney. — Counsel states that witness may correct any statement which he may have made during counsel's absence for a few minutes. Witness states Jobnrion is Commissioner in Ounalaska, and the skins were delivered to the Commissioner, th'3 United States Marshal b«ing absent at the time. [96] E '11 mi I- :iv. ' V'il 26 The papers produced by coimsfil arc as follows, to wit : — Register, No. 61 ; numoml 116,085, issued nt Customs Office, San Francison 12th January, 1887; tonnage, ()7"70 net; "Sylvia Handy" certificate; crew list certified 12th July, 1887, San Francisco; clearance from Customs Office, ^■ictoria British Columbia, !)tli ^lay, 1SS7; bound i'or North Pacific Ocean and lichiiii<;'s sja (bill of health accompanying) ; also certificate of United States' Consul of the dciiosit of his clearance and other papers with tlie Consul at Victoria, Uritis'i Columbia. Endorsed: C. IT. 11. No. 03. United States v. schooner "Sylvia Handy'' Evidence. Filed 22nd September, 1887. H. E. Ilaydon, Clerk, by A. A. Mover Deputy Clerk. ■ * ' ' In the United States' District Court, District of Alaska. In the Mnlter of the United States v. Schooner "Sylvia Hnmhj." No. 93. — Findings and Conctusions of Law, This cause having been tried and submitted, the Court, from the evidence', finds the following facts and conclusions of law : — 1. That on the 2nd day of September, 1.SR7, and theretofore, the master and ere iv of the defendant's vessel M'ere engaged in killing, and did kill, fur-seals in that portion of IJchring's Sea ceded by Hussia to the United States by tlu^ Treaty of March 1867, and within the waters of Alaska, in violation of Section IQiM of the Eevisnl Statutes of the United States, and that the promiscuous shooting ot fur-bcaviuff animals in the waters adjacent to the Islands of St. Paul and St. George, and in tiiat portion of Behring's Sea east of th(> lO.'Jrd degree of west longitude, has a tendency to frighten and prevent said animals from going upon those islands, as they have liocn accustomed to do in tlio past. 3. That on the said 2nd day of September, 1887, said vessel, her furniture, apparel, tackle, cargo, and 1,()7!> fur-seal skins were seized in said ^vaters by the eommamliii!.' officer of the Tnited Statrs' revenue-cutter "Bear," then and there engaged iu the revenue marine service of the I'nited States. 3. That said commanding oflicer was duly commissioned by the Presidei\t of the U nited States, and made such scnzure under the direction and by the authority of the Treasury Department of the United States. 4. That said pro])erty so sei/.i'd was delixcnnl by said commanding officer of said cutter to the United States' ^larslial of the District of Alaska, and is now within the jurii^dietion of this Court. As conclusions of law the Court llnds that the jdaintilV is entitled to a decree of forfeiture against said vessel, her tackle, apparel, furniture, cargo, and the said 1,079 fur-seal skins (Signed) LA FAYETTE DAWSON, Dated September 22, 1887. District Judije. Endorsed. C. IT. 12. No. 1)3. In the United States' District Court, District of Alaska. United States c. schooner " Sylvia Handy." Findings and conehisions of law. Filed the 22nd September, 1HS7. II. E. Ilaydon, Clerk. In the United States' District Court, District of Alftska. United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy," J. L, Carthcut, L, N, Handy, Jos. Hand\j, and TTm. Thomas. No, 93, — Decree. The Marshal having returned on the monition issued to him in the above entitle<l action that, in obedience thereto, he had attached the said schooner "Sylvia Handy," her tackle, apparel, boats, cargo, and furniture, and proctor for claimants, on behalf of 27 ) cvidenpc, fimls said owners, having waived said owners' right to publication and posting of the notico of the lihel and seizure, and also time of hearing, and lias given due notico to all persons claiming tlio same to ap^)ear before this Court on the 1{)tli day of September, 1887, at >i o'clock p.m., at the District of Alaska, United States of America, then and there to interpose their claims and make their allegations in tliat behalf, and .].\i. Carth- ciit, the captain of said vessel, having hereto tiled a claim to all of said propeity in his and the behalf of L. N. Handy and .las. Handy, and \\'ni. Thomas, of San Francisco, California, and no other persons having appeared, and no other claims or allegations liaviug been made or filed by any other person or persons, and tlie usual proclamation having l)een made, and said cause having beeii heard this day by consent of parties on tJie pleadings and ])roofs, M. D. Ball, Esq., United States" District Attorney, by A. K. Dclaney, Esq., counsel in that behalf, appearing as advocate for said libellant, and W. Clark, Esq., as advocate for said claimants, and said cause having been submitted to the Court for decision, and due deliberation being had in the premises, and the Court having filed his findings of fact and conclusions of law herein, it is now thereupon ordered, sentenced, and decreed as follows :— - 1. That all jiersons whosoever other than said claimants be, and they arc hereby, decreed in contumacy and default. 2. That said schooner " Sylvia llaudy," her tneklo. appan;!, boats, and furniture, and her cj'rgo of l,r>7'.) fur-seal skins, now in the custody of J. 1?. JohuRton, United States' Commissioner, a special agent of the J)eputy Unilcil States' .Marshal ut Ounahiska, subject to the order of t!ie Court, and all property found upon or appurtenant to said schooner be, and the sam(> arv- hereby, (condemned as forfeited to the use of the United States. ;$. That unless an appeal betaken against this Decree within the time limited and inescribcd by law and tlie Rules of tlu; Court th(! usual writ of venditioni exponas bo issued to the Jlarshal commanding him to sell all th(> said property and bring the proeecds into this Court to be distributed according to law. Costs to be taxed, and arc awarded against .said claimants. (Signed) LA EAYl'l'lTE DAWSON, Dixtrict Judtje, I'udorsed: 1[. 13. \o. 93. United States r. schooner "Sylvia Handy." Duerec. Tiled the 22nd Septejiioer, 18S7. 11. E. Ilaydon, Clc -k, by II. E. Ilaydou, juu,, Deputy Clerk, In the United Sates District Court for the District of Alaska. United States v. American Schooner " Sylcia Handi/." No. 03. — Motion in Arre.st, At this time comes AV. Clark, proctor for claimants, and moves the Court to aiTCst the decrecj of forfeiture in said cause for the following reasons, to wit : 1. That the libel of infcn'mation heroin docs not state facts sufficient in law to I'lialde the United States to have and maintain this action for the forfeiture of the property seized herein. 2. Tliat the evidence produced on part of the United States in this cause is not sufficient upon which to have a decree of forfeiture. 3. That from the evidence produced on tlui part of the United States it appears that this Court has no jurisdiction over the subject-matter of this cause. 1. That the Act of Congress under which the seizure herein was made is unconstitutional and itllra vires, in that it purports to give the United States jurisdiction over a portion of the high seas more than 3 marine leagues from its shores, and purports to establish an international boundary-line in mid-ocean with no dclinite termiiuil points and impossible to determine by abso.uto measiu'ement or clearly rtntlne by marks. Therefore claimants pray that said dccivie may be for ever rested and his cause dismissed. >• •' ' (Signed) W. GlAllK, Proclor for Claimatits. ■'' L95] E a ! 98 Endoivcd : II. 14. No. 93. United StatcB v. schooner "Sylvia Handy." Motion in nmsst. Filed the Srd Octoher, 1887. H. E. Haydon, Clerk,) by A. A. Meyer, Deputy Clerk. W. Clark, proctor for claimants. In the United States District Court for the District of Alaska. United States V. Americun Schooner " Sylvia Handy." No. 93. — Petition for Leave to appeal. And now comes W. Clark, proctor for claimants, and prays the Court for leave to appeal this cause to the Supreme Court of the United States or such other Court as may have appellate jurisdiction over the suhjcct-matter of this cause. (Signed) W. CLARK, Proctor for ClaimanU. Endorsed : H. No. 93. 15. United States i-. schooner " Sylvia Handy." Petition for leave to appeal. Filed the 9th December, 1887. H. E. Haydou, Clerk, W. Clark, proctor for claimants. United States District Court, District of Alaska. In the Matter of the United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy."—So. 93. Petition iiled by W. Clark, Esq., proctor for claimants, for leave to appeal. ' f the Cour (Signed) It is considered and ordered by the Court that leave be granted. LA FAYETTE DAWSON, December 9, 1887. Endorsed : Petition to appeal. 16. District Judge. In the United States' District Court Kr the District of Alaska United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy." No. 93. — Motion for Stay of Proceedings. And now comes W. Clark, jroctor for claimants, and moves the Court to grant a stay of proceedings herein for three months from this date to enable claimants to bond the property seized herein if they desire to do so. Dated at Sitka this 3rd day of October, a.d. 1887. (Signed) W. CLARK, Proctor for Claimants. Endorsed : II. No. 93. 17. United States v. schooner " Sylvia Handy." ilotion for stay of proceedings. Motion filed and overruled by Court the 9th December, 1887. H. E. Haydon, Clerk. W. Clark, proctor for claimants. In the United States' District Court, District of Alaska. United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy," and L, N. Handy, J. Handy, J. L. Carihcut, and W. Thomas. No. 93. — Affidavit on Appeal. United States, District of Alaska, ss. : Personally appeared before me the Undesigned, Clerk of the District Court in antl tor tlie District of Alaska, William S. Morrisey, who, upon being first duly sworn, upon his oath says he is the duly authorized agent for clairiants in the above-entitled cause ; that said claimants purpose npponling snid cause to the Supreme Court of the United States. That they purpose prosecuting said api)eal with due diligence and without unnecessary delay ; that they arc appealing said cause for the reason that they feel themselves aggrieved and injured by the decree of the District Court rendered herein on the 22nd day of September, a.d. 1887, iit a special term of said Court. Tlint said appeal is not taken for vexatious delay or to binder or delay the United States in obtaining the proceeds of tlie said deci-ec of forfeiture rendered herein, but that the law and the facts may be reviewed by the said Superior Court, and that this appeal is made by affiant for and in behalf of said claimants. (Signed) W. S. MORRISEY. Subscribed to and sworn before me this 13th day of February, 1888. (Signed) II. E. 11a v don, Clerk, Untied Slates' District Court. (Seal.) Endorsed : II. Xo. 93. 18. Unit<d States v. schooner " Sylvia Handy." Affidavit on appeal. Filed the 13th February, 1888. H. E. Haydon, Clerk. i ii In the United States' District Coiurt, District of Alaska. The United States v. the Schooner J. Handi/, James L. Carthcut, Attorney'in-Fact. " Sylvia Handy," her Cargo, and L. N. Handy, William Thomas, and W. S. Morrisey, Agent and ■or Claimants. Ko. 93. — Amended Petition for Leave to appeal. At this time comes Jkl. P. Beny, proctor, intervening for and in behalf of the owners of the above-named vessel and cartjo, through and by authority of W. S. Morrisey, Esq., the duly authorized agent of the said owners, and prays the honourable Court, by virtue of the powei-s vested under section 3 of the Organic Act creating the District of Alaska, passed by Congress of the United States, an 1 approved by the President the 17th May, 188i, that leave be granted to amend the appeal heretofore allowed by this Court (at a special term holden the 9th December, 1887) [ ? ] be granted, said owners and ai,'ent, defendants, to appeal and carry forward their cause direct to the Supreme Court, of the United States of America. That the above-named vessel and car;,'o, being of the appraised value of 12,073 dol. 25 c., to wit, that the schooner "Sylvia Handy " fnd cargo, was appraised by duly appointed and sworn appraisers of this Court in th j sum of 4,350 dollars, and tliat tlie cargo, consisting of 1,679 fur-seal skins [ ? ] in the sum of 8,3?3 dol. 25 c., making a total of 12,073 dol. 25 c. The same being a sufficient sum to carry an appeal to the said Supremo Court of the United States for review. (Signed) M. P. BEERY, Proctor for W. S. Morrisey, Agent for Owners. Endorsed : If. Xo. 93. 19. In the United States' District Court, District of Alaska. United States v. schooner " Svlvia Handv." Amended petition for leave to appeal. Filed the 13th February, 1888. H. E. Haydon, Clerk. M. P. Berry, proctor. In the United States' District Court in and for the District of Alaska. The United States, Plaintiff, v. the Schooner " Sylvia Handy " and Cargo, Owners, and Agent, Defendant. No. 9S.— Motion for New Trial. At this time comes M. P. Berry, proctor, appearing for William S. Morrisey, duly autliorized agent for the above-named dt'fcndants, and prays this honourable Court that defendants be allowed a rehearing in their cause. I :ll! Tlmt a (lay cortain ha unincd by tho Court for a now trinl. Tliat lliis motion is based upon tho i^roiiiid tliat (lie ('onu^rt'ss of the Uuitod States, h'j tbo ])nssage of certain li!iv\s wliereby \v(^ were; snbj(>ct to arrest Jiiid ton. Iiscation, did not only \vr0n5,' us in our persons and {joods, but that body did oxt'cd tlieir jurisdiction. (Signed) :M. W IW.UllX, Proctor for M'. N. }f()rrisrii, A<jnil far Owners. Endorsed: II. Xo. 03. 20. Tu tbe I'uited States' District Court in luid for tliu District, of Alaska. I'nited States r.sebooniT" Svlvia Ilandv." .Motion for now trjnl Filed the 1 Itli February, 18HS. 11. |]. llaydon, Clerk. Al.'l'. iJcrry, Proctor. In tlic United States' District Court in and for tlic District of Alaska. The United Stales \. Scliooner " Si/lvia Ilunily." No. 03, — Motion for Staj/ of Proceedlitijx. Coin(>s now ^r. V. Berry, Proctor, and moves tbo Court for stay of )iroc('edini;s in the above-entitled cause i)cndint; appeal heretofore allowed to bo taken by tills honourable Court. (Signed) .M. P. BERRY, Proctor for Defcndant>>' Aijent. Endorsed : H. No. 0.3. 21. In the United States' District Court in and for the District of Alaska. United States v. schooner " Sylvia Handy." Motion for stay of proceedings. Piled the 11th February, l.S«y. 11. E. Haydon, Clerk. M. P. Uerry, Proctor. In the United States' District Court in and for the District of Alaska. United Stales v. Schooner " Si/lvia Ilandji." — No, 93, It is considered and ordered by the Court that the motion for a new trial and a stay of jiroceedings heretolbre filed in this case be overruled. Dated February 21, 1888, Endorsed: 22, In the United States' District Court in and lor the District of Alaska, The United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy " and Cargo, &)C. ; and L. N, Handy, J, Handy, J. L. Carthcut, and William Thomas. No, 93. — Verification of Claim. Personally appeared before me in open Court, Wm. S. Morriscy, of Sitka, in the District of Alaska, and solemidy swears that ho is the lawful bailee for the ownei'sof the above-named schooner " Sylvia Handy " and cargo. That he is duly authorized by said owners of the above-named vessel and carijo to enter into and file stipulati<nis, with sureties, for the payment of all costs and ex[)en.scs which shall be awarded against them by the decree of this Court, or upon an aj)peal by the Appellate Court. (Signed) W. S. MORRISEY, Done in open Court, this 19th day of February, 1888, (Signed) II, E, llAyDON, Clerk. (Seal.) Endorsed : No. 93. 23. United States v. schooner " Sylvia Ilandy," Verifica- tion of claim. Piled the 20th February, 1888. U. E. Haydou, Clerk. G\Y trial aud a Tn (lio TTnitod Stnfos' "nistrict Court In nnd for the District of Alaskn. I'nilfd 8!ntf-i v. Schooner " Si/lrltt lliimhj " md Cnrrfo, and L. N. Hinidij, Jamrs Carthrut, J, N, Haiidii, ami William Thomas, Oa-nern. No. 0^.— Appeal to the ISapreme Court of the United States. In Admiralty. To tlio lionournhle Supremo Court of tho UnitiMl States of Ainorica. Tiic appnnl nl' the nliovn-nnmi'd appcllnntH rospootivoly sliowotli tliat, on or about the lotli (lay of Scptcmlicr, in the year 1SH7, tiu; abovo-naiued lihoUauts, tlu> United States of Amerira, exliil)it('(l tlu-ir lilxd in tlic District Court of tlic I'nitcd States for the District of Alaska against tlic a))pollants for tlw; reasons set forth in said lihol, that tlitsp np))cllants mifjjht be condemned to pay tbo demands of said libellants and costs in said libel mentione:). Tliat process issued ont of said Court haviuir been served on these appellants, tlipy (lid, on or about tlie littli day of SeptenibcM-, in the \mr 1H87, tile their answer to said libel in the said District Court, prayini? tiiat tho said libel be dismissed with tiieir costs in that behalf, as by reference to tbo said libel and tho said answer may more fully appear. Tliat the said cause came on to lie heard befon* the ilononrable Ln Fayette Dawson, .lud;;e of the said District ('ourt, on or about the 2l'nd day of September, in t lie year 1HH7, upon the testimony and proofs adduced by the rcapectivo parties; and the said .Tudi,'e. having advised tliereou, did, on the 2'Jnd day of September, in tlio vcar 18S7, make his decree in said cause, wliereby it was, among other things, (Iccroed tliat tho libellants in said cause recover aLfainst tli(>s(> appellants a decree of lortViture against said vessel, her tackle, apparel, I'liniitiire, cargo, and 1,079 fur-seal skins, as by reference to the said decree may more I'ully ri])])ear; and these appellants !iro advised and insist that tlie said decree is erroneous, inasmuch as the honourable Coiivt, at such sitting, did not declare the law or constitution by which such seizure and forfeiture of properly was made. AVherei'ore these appellants ajijieal from the Avliole of said decree of said District Court of the United States, and respect rully pray that tlie decree of the said District Court and tlic bill, answer, pleadings, evidcjiicc, and proceedings in tho said cause may lie sent to the Sujireine Court of the United Stutes without delay, and that the saill Supreme Court will proceed to hear the said dansea new, and that the said decree of tlic District Court and every part thercol' may be reversed and a decree made dis. missing said libel Avith costs, or such other decree as to th(> said Supreme Court shall si'cm just. (Signed) :M. P. BERRY, Dated March 20, 1888. Solicitor for Appellants. Endorsed: Copy. IT. No.!)!]. 2t. Tn the United States' District Court in and for tlie District of Alaska. Ignited States «. Schooner ylvia Ifandy." Appeal to the Supreme Court of tho United States. In Admiralty. Eilcd the 2;Jrd UsxvcU. 1888. n, E. Ilaydou, Clerk. M. P. Berry, solicitor for appellants. In the United States District Court in and for the District of Alaska. United States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy " and Cargo, No. 93. — Court in Error, Brief of Proctor. (Submitted without argument.) Par. I. That the assumption of ownership by Russia of that portion of the Pacific Ocean generally known as the Tiehring's SeaAvas a fallacy, and the transfer of the same to the United States of America Avas a fraudulent exercise of sucii ownership and supremacy, which did not exist at tho <'ortain time of the sale and transfer of Alaska and the Aleutian Islands to the said United States of America. •f! i I'nr. II. That Russia had no cnntrol over such sen or wr.tors from thoye(\rlV25 until the (ilaim of ownership when ucp^otiating for the mi1i> of the mninlnnd of tho Continent of Nortli America nnd known nud recognized as iV^OHka, and tho (!hain of islands hearing the name of Aleutian, with other ishinda of the same group and cuittiu islands within the ltehrin<;'s Nea nnd tlio strait op«>ning and leading into tiio .>()rt|| Arctic Ocean — IHtMJ and 18(17; that the destruction of many American ships In tin. said Behring's Sea and waters ndjacent thereto l)y an unrecogniztnl war-vessel as lute as IHOl and 1805 met with no protest from the Kiissiau authorities nt that tinuMvitliiu those seas (viz., the Knmschatka or Behring's Seas), properly tho North Pacilic Ocean, is indisputahle j)ro«)f tiiat such seiw were not considered neutral waters hy the Uussiail Government. Par. III. That the Congress of the United States exceeded its Constitutional iwwii- by the passage of Laws to control watera of seas upon hyi)othotical linos drawn from land's end, off soundings, through open ocean, and ending on a parallel of latitude 70 marine leagues from land ; that Iaws to control the waters beyond tho 1 marine league or 3 mUes frwn the sliore-lino of each and every island, open reef of rocks, (ir mainland is abortive. Par. IV. That the enactment of Laws by tho Li'gislativo Power of the United States that destroys a legitimate occupation, one of the industries of the people, is a tyrannical exorcise of such power vested in that body by such ixjoples, and is unconstitutional. Par. V. That tho Honourable tho District Judge, by the authority of the "Or^anie Act providing a Civil Government for Alaska," passed and approved the 17tli Mav, 1884, being expressly clothed with tho exclusive jurisdiction to pronounce upon the constitutionality of tho Law by such Organic Act, is in error by sustaining tho constitu. tionality of the law whereby the United States, as plaintiff, became entitled to a decree of forfeiture against these defendants, appellants, and their property. (Signed) M. P. BERRY, Proctor for W. S. Morrisey, Agent for Owner. Endorsed: C.H. 25. No. 93. In tho United States' District Court, District of Alaska. United St^ites v. schooner " Sylvin Handy." Brief of proctor. Filed the 2:W March, 1888. H. E. Haydon, Clerk. M. P. Ben-y, Proctor. In the United States' District Court for tho District of Alaska. United Stales v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy" and L. N. Handy, J. N. Handy, J. L. Cnrthcut, and W. Thomas. No. 93. — Order granting Appeal. Upon hearing and filing petition of M. P. Berry, proctor, intervening for and In behalf of the owners of the above-named vessel and cargo through and by authority of W. S. Morrisey, Esq., the duly authorized agent of the said owners, jjraying for an order allowing them to appeal this cause to the Supreme Court of the Unitf^l States, and upon hearing and filing the aflTulavit of W. S. Morrisey, the duly authorized agent for claimants in the above-entitled cause, and no objection being raised on the part of the United States, and sufficient security having been given by said claimants that they will prosecute said appeal to effect, and upon being fully advised in the premises, it is ordered that said petition be granted and said claimants allowed to apjieal tliis cause. Done at Sitka, Alaska, this 23rd dav of March, 1888. (Sign'ed) LA FAYETTE DAWSON, District Judge. Endorsed : C. H. 26. No. 93. In the United States* District Court, District of Alaska. United States v. schooner " Sylvia Handv." Order granting appeal. Filed the 23rd March, 1888. 11. E. Haydon, Clerk. In the United Rtatcn' Circuit Court in ami for tlic District of Alaska. United SUiteti v. Schooner " St/lvia IJandi/." No, 93.— fons^n/ thai Vesnel be (I'lHcharged on Sfipulnlion. Tlic solioonor " Sylvia ITnndy," hor small boats, tackle, apparel, arms, ammunition, fiirnituic, and cargo, consistinff of 1,070 fur-seal skins, liaviii<!; been arrested on tho nmci'ss issued in this cause, wo consent tliat on filinff the usual stipulation entered into according to the Rules of the Court to appea , abide, and perform the decree in tlip sum of 12,073 dol. 25 c, and on filing a claim and on complying with the Rules of tlir Court as to tho fees of tho officers of Court tho said sehooner he discharged from fibtodv and arrest. (Signed) WHIT. M. GRANT, Dated March 23, 1888. Proctor for Libellttnt. Endorsed : 27. No. 03. In tho United States' District Court, District of Alaska. United States v. schooner " Sylvia Handy." Consent that vessel and cargo be dis- (liarRcd on stipulation. Filed the 23rd March, 1888. II. E. Ilaydon, Clerk. JI. P. Berry, proctor for o\vnor8. In tho United States' District Court in and for the District of Alaska. The United Slates v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy " and Caryo. No. 93. — Bill of Exceptions. B(! it remembered that on the trial of '. is cause, tho same being the 22nd day of Sflitember, 1887, in the District Court of tho United States for the District of Alaska, linldon at Sitka, in tho aforesaid district, and at the November term thereof, tho Government, to sustain the issue on its part, offered tho following evidence to tho Court, viz. : — I am John C. Moore, Third Lieutenant of the revenue-cutter " Bear," and I was such on the 2nd September last. I was present at the seizure of the schooner "Sylvia Handy" on tho 2nd. We were in latitude 54° 12' north, and longitude lG(i° 51', 17 miles from Cape Cheerful. Captain Healy is Commander of the " Bear," R.Jf.S., U.S.N. I was boarding officer, sent by Captain Healy in company with Alex. Wilson ; boarded tho vessel and found she had forty-two seals on deck unskinned. I reported tho fact to Captain Healy, who ordered me to seize the vessel. I returned and told the captain that I had orders to seize tho vessel. Ho said ho would submit, but on protest. James Carthcut was in command of the vessel ; captain did not state how long he bad been in Bohring's Sea, but said he thought he had a perfect right to sealinf^ in the sea if he was 3 miles from shore. This was in waters from tho sea navigable by vessels of 10 or more tons burden. Tho schooner was taken to Ounalaska, tho skins taken out and stored in the Government warehouse. By Court. — There wore 1,637 skins below and 42 on deck. Cross-examined by Mr. Clark. The only authority you had for making the Seizure were Captain Healy's orders ? -Yes, Sir. By whose orders did you deliver those skins to Ounalaska? — Under Captain Healy's orders. Who did you deliver them to ?— I did not deliver them myself, but have a receipt for them. Who did ? — '^ o Captain. Were you in ( mmand of the vessel ? — Yes, Sir. He ordered y ,a to deliver the skins in Ounalaska ? — Yes, Sir. You say you were ordered to deliver the skins in Ounalaska? — Yes, Sir; I delivered them to Captain Healy, in Ounalaska. [95] F ^1 h: '' 1 f 1 11 m u M- Si You stated those skins were placed in the Government waxoliQuso?— Yes, Sir; in charge of the United States' Marshal. What was his name ? — Isaac Anderson. Have you a receipt for the skins ? — Yes, Sir. I have not got it here, bvit I can get it. Counsel here produces papers for identification. Witness identifies them. Redirect by Mr. Delaneif, Counsel states that witness may correct any statement which ho may have mado during counsel's absence lor a few minutes. Witness states Johnson is Commissioner in Ounalaak9> and the skins were delivered to the Commissioner, the United States" Marshal heing absent at tli« time. In the trial of the scaler cases Captain Shcppard, commander of the revenue- cutter *' Rush," ontfaged in cruizing in the IJohring'a Sea, testified that shooting and the method of taking seals pursued by said seized vessels tended to drive thciu from their usual haunts and breeding and raising grounds in Behring's Sea, which evidence was used and considered in the trial and decision of this cause. To which the defendants then and there objected, the objection heing ovei-nded and the evidence admilted. The defendants there and then e^^oeptod tq th« ruling of the Court, and the law, as declared by the Court, viz. : — This cause having been tried and submitted, the Court, from the evidonee, finds the following facts and conclusions of law : " 1. Tliat on the 2nd day of September, 1887, and theretofore, the master and crew of the defendants' vessel were engaged in killing, and did kill, fur-seals in tliat portion of IJehring's Sea cedoi^ by llui-sia to the United States by the Treaty of ^larcli 1867, and within the waters of Alaska, in violation of section 1950 of the Kovisod Statutes of the United States, and that the promiscuous shooting of fur-boarin;,' animals in the waters adjacent to tlic Islands of St. Paul and St. George, and in that portion of Behring's Sea east of the lOJh'd degree of west longitude, has a tendency to frighten and prevent said animals from going upon those islands, as they have been accustomed to do in tiie past. "2. That on the said 2nd day of September, 1S87, said ves.sel, her furnitui-o, apparel, tackle, cargo, and 1,()79 fur-seal skins were seized in said waters by the commanding officer of the United Stat(>s' reveiuio cutter ' Bear,' then and tlicic engaged in the Bevcnue ilarino S(>rvico of tlie United States. " 3. That said commanding officer was duly commissioned by the President of the United States, and made sucli seizure under tho direction and by the autUoriiv of the Treasury Department of the United States. " '4. That said ])roperty so seized was delivered by said commanding officor of .said cutter to tb(> United States' Maislial of tiie District of Alaska, and is now Avithiii the jurisdiction of Ibis Court." As conclusions of law, the Court finds that the plaintiff is entitled to a decree of forfeiture against said vessel, her tackle, apparel, furniture, cargo, and the eaid l,fi7i) fur-seal skins. (Signed) LA TAYETTE DAWSON, District Jmhjf. Endorsed : 28. No. J)3. In the United States' Dietriot Court in and for tlu- District of Alaska. United States v. schooner " Sylvia Handv." Bill of E.KCcptious, Tiled 23rd March, 1888. II. E. Ilaydon, Clerk. In the United States' District Court, District of Alaska. ' Vniled States v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy." '• No. 03. — StipuhiHon. It is lierehy stipulated by and botweeu W- M- Grant, United States' District Attorney, acting for and on l)elialf of the United States j and M. J'- Berry, proctor for \f, S. Morrisey,, duly {uvpoiuted and constituted agent for the owners, tbat tibc rollowing sliallne omitted from the transcript liorcmilo f)n'^"xod, namely : — Ail the exhibits referred to in the tcstiniony of J. ( '. ^Mooi,'. (Signed) WIIIT. IE. GllANT, United Slalei Didtict Attornei/, M. r. BEEllY, Proctor for W. /s'. Morrhey, Aijentfor Oicncrn. Endorsed: 29. No. 93. In the United States' J)i.strict Court iu and for the District of Alaska. United States y. schooner " Sylvia llaudy." Stipulation. Tiled tlic 23rd March, 1888. II. E. Ilaydon, Clerk. In the United States' District Court in and for the District of Alaska. In the Matter of the United Stales v. Schooner " Sylvia Handy.'' — !So. 93. Now comes M. P. 13cny, proetor for elaiiuant, and niovos the Court for leave to file stipulation for the appraised value of t'le schooner " Sylvia Handy," her tackle, njjparel, smaill boats, arms, ammunition, and cargo, consisting of 1,078 fui'-seal Upon examination of the stijjulations it is ord(>rcd by the Court that the same be approved, and whereupon the Court issued tli(> following order, to wit: Tiie stipulation of the claimants herein with sufliei(!nt surety having been filed and approved, it is ordered that the above-named vessel and all he; tackle, apparel, ftiniitnre, arms, ammunition, and cargo, consisting of 1,07H fur-s.>al «-,kins, received in this port by the United States' Marslial for the District oi' Alaska, be released, and that tlio same be delivered to William S. Morriscy, Esq., Attorney-in-fact for the claimants herein. (Signed) LA PAYETTE DAWSON, March 23, 1888. District Judfje. End^'scd : 30. Journal entry. I 'I In the United States' District Court, District of Alaska. In the Matter of the United States V. Schooner " Sylvia Handy."— Iso. 93. Comes now M. 1'. Berry, proctor for claimants in the abovc-eu titled cause, and ])rays that the amended ])etition for leave to appeal and the affidavit on appeal horoto- fore filed be considered by the Court. March 23, 1888. Endorsed : 31. Journal entry. In the United States' District Court in and for the District of Alaska. United States V. Schooner '■ Sylvia Handy." No. 93. — Stipulation for Costs ijiven hy Claimants on Appeal AViiercas a iilud was tiled in this Coiu't in tiio within cause on tlic 15th day of ^fptcuiber, A.i). lfSS7, by M.D. Dal), United States' Attorney for the District of Alaska, a;.;;iii^l llie sclioonor " Sylvia Handy," her tackle, apparel, I'lU'iiiture, and cargo, for tiio reasons and causes set i'ortli and mentioned in said libel of information, and praying tliat tlie same may be condemned and sold ; And whereas a decree of forfcitun; was, on the 22nd day of September, 1887, rendei'ed against the said vessel, her tackle, apparel, furniture, and cargo, and against L, N. Handy, J. L. Handy, James L. Cartlicut, of San Fi-ancisco, California, Intor- [Uo] F 2 w\ ai6 vening as the sole and only claimants to said vessel, tacHc, apparel, furnituro, and cargo; And whereas tlie said L. N. Handy, J. L. Handy, and J. L. Carthcut, claimants as aforesaid, are desirous of and purpose ajipealing from the said Decree of this Honourable Court to the Supreme Court of the United States: NoM', therefore, we, the undersigned stipulators, submitting ourselves to the juris. diction of this Court, do acknowledge ourselves to be bound unto the United States of America, the said L. N. Handy, J. L. Handy, and James L. Caithcut, as principals, and W. S. Morriscy and David Wallace, iis sureties, jointly and severally, in tlie sum of 300 dollars lawful money of the United States, conditioned that if the claimants above named shall jiay all costs and expenses which shall be awarded against them by the final decree of the Supreme Court of the United Stiitcs, then this stipulatiou to be void ; otherwise to remain in full force and effect. Witness our hands this 23rd day of March, 1888. (Signed) W. J. MORRISEY. DAVID WALLACE, United States, District of iUaska, ss. : Personally appeared before me, H. E. Haydon, Clerk of the United States' District Court for the District of Alaska, W. S. Morrisey, and David Wallace, who, beini; duly sworn, each for himself deposes and says that he is a resident and householder in said district, and that be is worth the sum set forth in the foregoing stipulation above his just debts and liabilities and property exempt from execution. (Signed) W. S. MORRISEY. DAVID WALLACE. Sworn to and subscribed the 23rd day of March, 1888. (Signed) II. E. Hayuon, Clerk, United States' District Court, (Seal United States' District Court, Alaska.) Endorsed: No. 9;^. 32. In the United States' District Court in and for tiic District of Alaska. United States v. schooner " Sylvia Handy." Bond for costs on appeal to the Supreme Court of the United States. Filed and approved the 23rd March, 18!?8. H. E. Haydon, Clerk. In the United States' District Court in and for the District of Alaska. I,, Henry E. Haydon, Clerk of the District Court of the United States in and for the Dii'trict of Alaska, do hereby certify that the foregoing copies of i^leadiugs, pajjcrs, and joui'nal entries in the cause of the United States v. the schooner " Sylvia lluiidy" and L. N. Handy and Co. have been by me compared with the originals thereof as tlic same p.ppear on file and of record in this Court, and that the same are full and true transcripts of said original pleadings, papers, and joumal entries now in my custody and control. In testimony wh(>reof I have hereunto set my hand and aflixed the seal of tlio said Court, at Sitka, in said district, this 2nd dav if April, 1888. (Siguod) HENRY E. HAYDON, Clerk. (Seal United States' District Court, Alaska.) Endorsed on cover : Alas'^a D. C. U. S. No. 083. The schooner " Sylvia Handy," her tackle, appaiel, &c. ; L. N. Handy, James Carthcut, J. N. Handy, and William Thomas, owners, appellants, v. the United States. Eiled the lOth June, 1888. No. 18. ISir J. Pauncefole to the Muriinis of ISalisbuvy. — (Received December 27.) My Lord, Waskimjlon, December 10, 1S90, IN (he lust paragi'a|)h of your Lordship's despatch of the 22nd Octobtr I was instructed to read that despatch to the Secretary of State, if he should revert to the sui)ject 87 seal of tlio said of his note to me of the 19th July, but your Lordship added that you did not consider the controversy which it raised of sufficient importance to require any communication on my iiart unless Mr. Blaine should refer specially to it. Although ho has not done so, I observed that the subject was adverted to in an urticlc in the " New York Tribune," purporting to give some information as to the further corrcsjionderoe on the Btliring's Sea (jueslion, which, as announced in the President's Message, will shortly be presented to Congress. In these circumstances, I thougiit it desirable to coniniunicale a copy of your Lordship's despatch to the Secretary of State, in order that it might bo included ir. the further correspondence about to be published, and I called on Mr. Blaine on the 1 1th instant and placed a copy of the despatch in his hands, exjjlaining that I did so in consequence of the article which had appeared in the " New York Tribune." I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 19. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received December 30.) MvLord, Washington, December IP, 1890. I HAVE the honour to transmit licrewith a printed copy of a note which I received oil the 17th instant from the Secretary of State. It contains the reply of tiie United State?' Government to your Lordship's despatch of the 2nd August last, offering on behalf of Her Majesty's Government '. submit to arbitration the question of the legality of the recent seizures of British sealing-vessels in the Behring's Sea by United States' revenue cruizers. The voluminous character of this note precludes any attempt to give even a brief abstract of its contents within the limits of a despatch. Its main feature, however, is tiiat while the United States' Government decline to submit to arbitration the real question in controversy, namely, the legality of the seizures of British vessels in the Behring's Sea outside of territorial waters, they express their willingness to submit to arbitration certain historical and political (|uestions which, in my hiinihle opinion, would raise false issues, however pertinent they may be a*-, supplying miitcrials for argument in support of tiie Am'^rican contention. For, even if all those (|uestions were decided in favour of the United States, it would not follow that the seizures were justified, or that the claim of the United States to the control of any part of the I'cliiing's Sea outside of territorial waters could be supported by international law. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 19. Mr. Bluinc to Sir J. Paumefote. Sir, Depnrlmenl of State, Wa.shimjlon, December M, 1890. YOUR note of the 12th August, whicli I acknowledged on the 1st Septemher, inclosed 11 copy of a despatch from the Marquis of Salisbury, dated tiie 2nd August, in reply to my note of the 30lh June. The consideration advanced by his Lordship have received the careful attention of tlie President, and I am instructed to insist upon the correctness and validity of the position which lias been earnestly advocated by the Government of the United States in defence 'ji American rights in the Behring's Sea. Legal and diplomatic questions, apparently complicated, nrc often found, after pro- longed discussion, to depend on the settlement of a single point. Such, in tiie judgment of tiie President, is the position in wliieh the United States and Great Britain find them- selves in the pending controversy touching the true construction of the Russo- American and Anglo- Russian Treaties of 1824 and 1825. Great Britain contends that the phrase " Pacific Ocean." as used in the Treaties, was incendtd to incl ide, and docs include, the body of water which is now known as the Behring's Sea. The United States contends that the Behring's Sea was not mentioned, or even referred to, in either Treaty, and was in no sense included in the phrase " Pacific Ocean." If Great Britain can maintain her position that the Behring's Sea at the time of the Treaties with Russia of 1824 and 182"j was included in the I'aeitic Ocean, the Government of the United States has no well-grounded complaint lU'dinsl her. If, on the other hand, this (iovenmieiit can prove beyond ail doubt that the Bchrinii's Sea, at the date of the Treaties, was understood by the three Signatory Powers to > If J. 'i- • .til ( \ 83 be a separate body of water, and was not included in the plirase " Pacific Ocean," then the American case against Great Britain is complete and undeniable. The dispute prominently involves tiie meaning of the phrase " norlli-west coast," or "north-west coast of America." Lord Salisbury assumes that the " north-west const'' has but one mcaniu!:, and tiiat it includes the whole coast stretching nnrthwarcl to the Bchring's Straits. The contention of this Ciovcrnment i* that by long prescription tlie "north-west coast" mer.ns the coast of the Pacific Ocean, south of the Alaskan Peninsula or south of tiic 60tli parallel of north latitude; or, to dcHnc it still more accufately, tin coast, from the northern border of tlic Spanish possessions, ceded to the United States in 1819, to the point where tlie Spanish claims met the claims of Russia, viz., from 42° to 60° north latitude. The Russian authorities for a long time assumed that 59' 30' was the exact point of latitude, but subsequent adjustments fixed it at 60°. The phrase "noith. west coast," or "north-west coast of America," has been well known and widely recognized in popular usage in England and America from the date of the first trading to tliat cc.ist abotrt 1784.* So absolute has been this prescription that tlie distinguished historian Htibert Howe Bancroft has written an accurate history of the north-west coast, which at ditfcreut times, during a period of seventy-fivo years, was the scene of important contests between at least four Great Powers. To render the understanding explicit, Mr, Bancroft has illustrated tlie nortli-west coast by a carefully prepared Map. The .Map will be found to include precisely tiie area which has been steadily maintained by this Guvernmeiu in the pending discussion. (For Map, see opposite pa^e.) Tlie phrase " r.ortli-west coast of America" has not infrequently been used simply as the synonym of t'.ie " north-west coast,'' hut it has also been used in another sense as including the A'nericaii coast of the Russian possessions as fiir northward as the Stmits of IJelirini,'. Cor.i'usion has sometimes arisen in the use of the piirase " norlh-west coast of America," bvu the true meaning can always be determined by refertmce to the context. The 'I'reaty between the United States and Russia was concluded on the i7tli April, 1824, and that between Givat Britain and Russia was concluded on the 28th February, 1825, The full and accurate text of both Treaties will be found in Inclosure (A). Tiie Treaty between the United States and Russia is first in the order of time, but 1 shall consider both Treaties together. T quote the first Articles of each Treaty, for, to all intents and purposes, they arc identical in meaning, though difl'er':ig somewhat in phrase. The Jst Article in the American Treaty is as follows :— "Article I. It is agreed that, in any part of the Great Ocean, commonly called tiic Pacific O^ean or the South Sea, the respective citizens or subjects of the High Contracting Powera shall be neither disturbed nor restrained, either in navigation or in fishing, or in the power of resorting to the coasts, upon points which may not already have been occupied, for the purpose of trading with the natives, saving always the restrictions and conditions determined by the following Articles." The 1st Article in the British Treaty is as follows : — " Article I. It is agreed that the respective subjects of the High Contracting Parties shall not be troubled or molested, in any part of the ocean, commonly called the Pacific Ocean, either in navigating the same, in fishing therein, or in landing at such parts of the coast as siiall not have been already occupied, in order to trade with the natives, under the restrictions specified in the following Articles." Lord Salisbury contends that — " T/i<; Russian Govervment had no idea of any distinction between Behring's Sea and the Pacific Ocean, which latter they considered as reaching southivard from Behring's Straila. Nor throughout the whole of the subsequent correspondence is there any reference what- ever on either side to any distinctive name for Behring's Sea, or any intimation that it could be considered otherwise than as forming an integral part of the Pacific Ocean." The Government of the United States cordially agrees with Lord Salisbury's state- niont that throughout the whole correspondence connected with the formation of the Treaties there was no reference whatever by cither side to any distinctive naino lor Heliring's !Sea, and for the very simple reason which I have already indicated, that the iiegolialioii had no reference whatever to the Behring's Sea, but was entirely confined to a ♦ The same designation obtainoil in Kiirore. As early as 1803, in a Map publisliud by the (icographic Institutu at Weimar, tiie coast from Columbia River (49) to Capo lilizabctli (60' ) is designated as the "Aorrf IKm* Kutle," i2i-. .ia.1-. .-- 1 ■ ■Mi ^ 1 a|j 1 i »^W»1H I' I "strip thereto I\ referrci Miips I' Ihe :iOi I'acit'c the one Euglisli ledge (1 Wi to century Jouth »as Cook.' T« a Map (late— iu 1730 the sea of the s to M;>p lii ninety y Spain, ( \m kn( Ocean. Beiiriiig they did uiuier w Is ami Mr. simply i separate have bo Mr. Ada for tiie Kiimscii uictcs ai deed for a^ninst minute employe that a'li hy Mr. . countvic Count I the two Mr. Stn and lion iiiserlioi freedom Th that th( British by the ' operatic Oecan ; Belirin; Russia bad, by 80 "strip of land " on the novtli-vvc8t coast and the waters of tlio Pacific Ocean adjacent thereto. For future reference I call special attention to tlie plirase "strip of land." I venture to remind Lord Salisbury of the fact that IJehring's Sea was, at the time referri'd to, the recognized name in some quarters, and so app-arcd on many authentic Maps sL'vcral years heforc the Treaties were negotiated. But, as I mentioned in ray note of ihcIiOih June, the same sea had been presented as a body of water separate from the I'acit'c Ocean for a long period jirior to 1825. Many names had been applied to it, but the one most frequently used and must widely recognized was the Sea of Kamschatka. Euglisli statesmen of the period when the Treaties were negotiated had complete know- lodge of all the geographical points involved. They knew that on the Map published in i;5't to illustrate the voyages of the most eminent English navigator of the eighteenth ccnturv the " Sea of Kamschatka " appeared in absolute contradistiction to the " Great fouth Sea " or tiic Pacific Ocean. And the Map, as shown by the words on its margin, was "prepared by Lieutenant Henry Roberts under the immediate inspection of Captain Cook." Twenty years before Captain Cook's Map ajjpcared, the "London Magazine" contained a Map on which the Sea of Kamschatka was conspicuously engraved. At a still earlier (late— even as far back as 1 732 — Gvosdcf, Surveyor of the Russian expedition of Shestakoff ill \ViO (who, even before Hehring, sighted the land of the American continent^, published the sea as bearing the name of Kamschatka, Muller, who was Historian and Geographer of the second expedition of Behiing in 1741, designated it as the Sea of Kamschatka ia to Map published in 17U1. I inclose a list of a large proportion of the most authentic Maps published during the ninety years prior to 1825 in Cireat Britain, in the United States, the Netherlands, France, Spain, Germany) and llussia — in all 105 Maps — on every one of which the hftdy pf water now known as Behring's Sea was plainly distinguished by a name separate from the Pacific Ocean. On the great majority it is named the Sea of Kamschatka, a few use the nanie of Bi'hring, while several other designations are used. 'I'hc whole number, aggregating, as thiy did, the opinion of a large part of the civilized world, distinguished the sea, no matter uiuier what name, as altogether separate from the Pacific Ocean. (See Inclosure B.) Is it possible, that with this great cloud of witnesses before the eyes of Mr. Adams ami Mr. George Canning, attesting the existence of the Sea of Kamschatka, they would simply include it in the phrase "Pacific Ocean," and make no allusion whatever to-it as a .icpanitc sea, when it was known by almost every educated man in Europe and America to have been so designated numberless times? Is it possible that Mr. Canning and Mr. Adams, both educated in the common law, could believe that they were acquiring lor tiic United States and Great Britain the enormous rights inherent in the Sea of Kamschatka without the slightest rclerence to that sea, or without any description of its iiittcs and bounds, when neither of them would have paid for a village house lot unless the deed lor it should recite every fact and feature necessary for the identification of the lot ajninst any other piece of ground on the surface of the globe? When wc contemplate the minute |)articularity, the tedious verbiage, the duplications and the reduplications employed to secure unmistakable plainness in framing Treaties, it is impossible to conceive that a lact of this great magnitude could have been omitted from the instructions written by .Mr. Adams and Mr. G. Canning as Secretaries for Foreign Affairs in their respective countries — impossible that such a fact could have escaped tlie notice of Mr. Middleton and Count Nesselrode, of Mr. Stratford Canning and M Poletica, who were the negotiators of ihc two Treaties. It is impossible that, in the Anglo-Russian Tieaty, Count Nesselrode, .\h', Stratford Canning, and M. Poletica could have taken sixteen linos to recito the titles and honours they had received from their respective Sovereigns, and not evpn suggest the insertion of one line, or even word, to secure so valuable a grant to England as the full freedom of the Behring's Sea. t' ' There is another argument of greot weight against the assumption of Lord Sollsbqj-y that the phrase " Pacific Ocean," as used in the Ist Article of noth the American and British Treaties, was intended to include the waters of tlie Behring's Sea. It is true that, by the Treaties with the United States and Great liritain, Russia practically withdrew the iwration of the Ukase of 1821 from the waters of the noith-west coast on the Pacific Orcan ; but the jjroof is conclusive that it was left in full force over tiie waters of the Behring's Sep. Lord Salisbury cannot have ascertained the value of the Behriqg's Spft \Q Russia when be assumed that, in the Treaties of 1824 and 1825, the Imperial Governnnpot bad, by mere inclusion in another phrase, with apparent carelessness, thrown open all the I 40 resources and nil the wealth of those waters to the citizens of the United States and to the subjects of Great Britain. Lord Salisbury bus, perhaps, .lot thought it worth while to make any exntnination of the money value of Alaska and the waters of the Hehring's Sea at the time tiie Treuties were negotiated and in the succeeding years. Tiie first period of the llussian-Amcrican Company's opcratii)ns had closed before tlic Ukase of 1821 was issued. Its iiffiiirs wcre kept secret for a 'onij; time, but arc now aecurntcly known. The money advanced for the capital slock of the Company at its opening in 179!) amounted to 1,238,74(5 roubles. T|,e gross sales of furs and skins by the Company at Kodiak and Canton from that date up to 1820 amounted to •J0,0i4,G9'^ roubles. The net profit was 7,68.5,000 roubles for the twenty-ono years — over 020 per cent, for the whole period, or nearly 30 per cent, per annum. Reviewing these facts, Bancroft, in his "History of Alaska," a standard woik of exhaustive research, says : — ■ '•We find this powerful monopoly firmly established in the favour of the Imperial Government, many Nobles of high rank and several members of the Royal Family bein" among the shareholders." And yet Lord Salisbury evidently supposes that a large amount of wealth was care- lessly thrown away by the Royal Family, the Nobles, the courtiers, the capitalists, and the speculators of St. Petersburgh in a phrase which merged the Behring's Sea in the Pacilic Ocean. That it was not thrown away is shown by the transactions of the Company for the next twenty years. The second period of the Russian-American Company began in 1821 and endedin 1841. Within that time the gross revenues of the Company exceeded 61,000,000 roubles. Besides paying all expenses and all taxes, the Company largely increased the original capital, and divided 8,500,000 roubles among the shareholders. These dividends and the increase of the stock showed a profit on the original capital of 65 per cent, per annum for the whole twenty years — a great increase over the first period. It must not be forgotten that, during sixteen of these twenty years of constantly increasing profits, the Treaties which, according to Lord Salisbury, gave to Great Britain and the United States equal rights with Russia in the Behring's Sea, were in full force. The proceedings which took place when the second period of the Russian American Company was at an end are thus described in Bancroft's " History of Alaska": — " 'In the variety and extent of its operations,' declare the members of the Imperial Council, ' no other Company can compare with it. In addition to a eonunercial and industrial monopoly, the Government has invested it with a portion of its own powers in governing the vast and distant territory over which it now holds control. A eiia.igein this system would now be of doubtful benefit. To open our ports to all hunters promis- cuously vould be a deuth-blow to the fur trade, while the Government, having translerred to the Company the control of the Colonies, could not now resume it without great expense and trouble, and would have to create new financial resources for such a purpose.'" The Imperial Council, it will be seen, did not hesitate to call the Russian-American Company a monopoly, which it could not have been if Lord Salisbury's construction of the Treaty was correct. Nor did the Council feel any doubt that to open the i)orts of the Beb-ing's Sea " to all hunters promiscuously would be a death-blow to the fur trade." Bancroft says further : — ..." This opinion of the Imperial Council, together with a Charter defining tlie privileges and duties of the Company, was delivered to the Czar, and received his signature on the 11th October, 1844. The new Charter did not diftifer in its main features from that of 1821, though the boundary was, of course, changed in accordance with the English and American Treaties. None of the Company's rights were curtailed, and the additional privileges were granted of trading with certain ports in China and of shipping tea direct from China to St. Petersburgh." The Russian-American Company was thus chartered for a third period of twenty years, and at the end of the time it was found that the gross receipts amounted to 75,770,000 roubles, a minor part of it from the tea trade. The expenses of administration were very large. The shareholders received dividends to the amount of 10,210,000 roubles — cbout 90t> per cent, for the whole period, or 45 per cent, per annum on the original capital. At the time the third period closed, in 1862, the Russian Government saw an 41 lopnorlunity to sell Alaska, and refused to continue the Charter of the Company. Agents of'thc United States had initiated negotiations for the transfer of Alaska as early as 1859. Ihe Company continued, practically, however, to exercise its monopoly until 1867, when \lasiia was sold by Russia to the United States. The enormous prorits of the Russian American Company in the fur trade of the Behring's Sea continued under the Russian flag I jiir more than forty years after the Treaties of 1821 and 182o had been concluded. And ,ct Lord Salisbury contends that during this lon{; period of exce|)tional profits from the fur trade Great Britain and the United States had as ^^ood a right as Russia to take part I in these highly lucrative ventures. American and Eni^lish shi|i in goodly nunibers during this whole period annually (isitcd and traded on the north-west coast on the Pacific Ocean. And yet, of all these tesseis of the United States and Great Britain, not one ever sought to disturb the fur lislicries of tho Behring's fiea or along its coasts, cither of the continent or of the islands. Solar as known, it is l)elievcd that neither American nor English ships ever attempted to laki' one fur-seal at the Pribylod" Islands or in tlie open waters of the Behring's Sea during that period. The 100-niile limit was for the preservation of all thene fur animals, and this limit was observed for that purpose by all the maritime nations that sent vessels to the Behriiig waters. Can any one believe it to be possible that the maritime, adventurous, gain-loving people of the United States and of Great Britain could have had such an inviting field open to them forty years and yet not one ship of either nation enter the Behring's Sea to compete with the Russian-American Company for the inordinate profits which had iowcd so steadily and for so long a period into their treasury from the fur trade ? The fact that the ships of both nations refrained, during that long period, from taking a single fur-seal inside the shores of tiiat sea is a presumption of their lack of right and their recognized disability so strong tiiat, independently of all other arguments, it requires the most authentic and convincing evidence to rebut it. That English ships did not enter the Behring's Sea to take part in the catching of seals is not all that can be said. Her acquiescence in Russia's power over the seal fisheries was so complete that during the foilv years of Russia's supremacy in the Behring's Sea (that followed the Treaties of 1824-25) it is not believed that Great Britain even made a protest, verbal or written, against what Bancroft describes as the " Russian monopoly." A certain degree of confusion and disorganization in the form of the government that had existed in Alaska was the inevitable accompaniment of the transfer of sovereignty to the United States. The American title was not made complete until the money, specified as the price in the Treaty, had been appropriated by Congress and paid to the Russian Minister by the Executive Department of tiie Government of the United States. This was effected in the latter half of the year 1808. The acquired sovereignty of Alaska carried with it by Treaty "all the rights, franchises, and privileges" which had belonged to Russia. A little more than a year after the acquisition, the United States transferred certain rights to the Alaska Commercial Company over the seal fisheries of Behring's Sea lor a period o! twenty year.'. Russia had given the .same rights (besides rights of still lainir scope) to tiie Russian-American Comjjany for three periods of twenty years each, without a protest from the British Government, without a single interference from British ships, For these reasons this Government again insists that Great Britain and the United States recognized, respected, and obeyed the authority of Russia in the Behring's Sea ; and did it for nioi'e than forty years after the Treaties with Russia were negotiated. It still remains for Englatrd to explain why she persistently violates the same rights when trans- ferred to the ownership of the United States. The Ilnd Article of the American Treaty is as follows : — "Article 11. With a view of preventing the rights of navigjition and of fishing exer- cised upon the Great Ocean by the citizens and subjects of the High Contracting Powers honi becoming the jrretext for an illicit trade, it is agreed that the citizens of the United States shall not resort to any point where there is a Russian establishment, without the permission of the Governor or Commander; and that, reciprocally, the subjects of Russia shall not resort, without permission, to any establishment of the United States upon the north-west coast." The Ilnd Article of the British Treaty is as follows : — " Article II. In order to prevent the right of navigation and fishing, exercised upon the ocean by the subjects of the High Contracting Parties, from becoming the [95J G t'A f C* 42 pretext for an illicit commerce, it is agreed that the Hubjects of His Britannic Majeiiy shall not land at any jjlnce where there may he ii Russian estahiishinent, without the iiermission of the Governor or CoinnnuKlant ; and, on the other hand, the Russian subjects shall not land, without permission, at any British establishment on the north-west coast." In the Ilnd Articles of the Treaties it is recognized that both tiie United States and Great liritain have establishments on the " north-west coast," and, u neither country ever claimed any territory north of the (iOth parallel of latitude we necessarily have the meaning of the north-west coast significantly defined in exact accordance with the American contention. An argument, altogether historical in its character, is of great and, I think, conclusive force touching this (juestion. It will l)o remend)ered that the Treaty of the 20tli October, 1818, between the United States and Great Britain, comprised a variety of topics, anion" others, in Article III, the following: — " It is agreed that any country that may be; claimed by cither party on the north-west coast of America, westward of the Stony JNlountains, shall, together with its harbours, biiyj, and creeks, and the navigation of all rivers within the same, be free and open, for the tciin of ten years from the date of the signature of the present Convention, to the vessels, citizens, and subjects of the two Powers ; it being understood that this Agreement is not to be con- strued to the prejudice of any claim which cither of the two High Contracting Parties inav hftve to any part of the said country, nor shall it be taken to affect the claims of any other Power or State to any part of the said country, the only object of the Hii;ii Contracting Parties, in that respect, being to prevent disputes and differences amongst themselves." While this Article placed upon a connnon basis for ten years the rights of Great Britain and America on the north-west coast, it made no adjustment of the claims of Russia pn the north, or of Spain on the south, which are referred to in the Article as "any otiier Power or State." Russia had claimed down to latitude ."35° under the Ukase of 1799. Spain had claimed indefinitely northward from the 42nd parallel of latitude. But all the Spanish claims had been transferred to the United States by the Treaty of 1819, and Russia had been so quiet until the Ukase of 1821 that no conflict was feared. But after that Ukase a settlement, either permanent or temporary, was imperatively dem^^ded. The proposition made by Mr. Adams which I now quote shows, I think, beyond ail doubt, that the dispute was wholly touching the north-west coast on the Pacific Ocean. I make the following quotation from Mr. Adams' instruction to Mr. Middleton, our Minister at St. Petersburgh, on the 22nd July, 1823 :— " By the Treaty of the 22nd February, 181!), with Spain, the United States acquired all the rights of Spain north of latitude 42° ; and by the lllrd Article of the Convention between the United States and Great Britain of the 20th October, 1818, it was agreed tliut any country that might be claimed by either party on the north-west coast of America, westward of the Stony Mountains, should, together with its harbours, bays, and creciis, and the navigation of all rivers within the same, iie free and o\wa, for the term often years from that date, to the vessels, citizens, and subjects of the two Powers, without prejudice to the claims of either party or of any other State. " You arc ituthorized to propose (in Article of the same Import for a term ol ten years from the siynahirr of a Joint Convention between the United IStateSf Grail Britain, and Russia." Instructions of the same purport were sent by the same mail to Mr. Rush, our Minister at Loudon, in order that the pro| osition should be completely understood by each of the three Powers. The confident presumption was that this proposition would, as a tem])oraiT settlement, be acceptable to all parties. But before there was time for full consideration of the proposition, either by Russia or Great Britain, President Monroe, in December 1823, proclaimed his famous doctrine of excluding future European Colonies from this continent. Its effect on all European nations holding unsettled or disputed claims to territory was to create a desire for prompt .settlement so that each Power could be assured of its own, with- out the trouble or cost of further defending it. Groat Britain was already entangled with the United States on the southern side of her claims on the north-west coast. That Agreement she must adhere to, but she was wholly unwilling to postpone a definite under- ■landing with Russia as to the northern limit of her claims on the north-west coast. H;nce e pernlniipnt Treaty wns tltisired, «hd in both Trenties the " ten-yenr " fentui-c was n-cognized _in the Vllth Article of the British Treaty and in tho IVth Article of tlie American -in Treaty ,,„^^. But neitlier in the corrc8|)<)ii(ioiice nor in tlie ikmsoiiuI conferences tiiat brougiit about Hie Ai^rceincnt was there u sin^h; hint timt the sctth-nient was to inehule anything' (l<c whatever than tiie nortli-wcst coast on the I'acilie Ocean, south of tiio (iOMi parallel of (irth latitude. Fortunately, however, it is not necessary for the United States to rely on this suesestive definition of the north-west coast, or upon the iiistorical facts above j^iven. It is easy to prove from other sources that in the Tieatv between the United States and Russia the coast referred to was that which I have di^tincd as the " novtli-wesl coast " on the Pacific Ocean soutli of 60" north latitude, or, as the Russians for a loiii; time believed it .VJ" 30'. We have in the De|)artuient of State tin; originals of the I'rotocols between our Minister at 8t. Petersburgh, Mr. Henry Mi(iilleton, and Count Nesselrode, of Russia, will) negotiated the Treaty of 1824. I ouote, as I have (jUoted in my note of the gOth June, a .Memorandum submitted to Count Nesselrode by Mr. Middleton as part of the -Ith Protocol : — "Now, it Is clear, nceordinf; to the facts estiblished, that neither Russia rtdr any other European Power has the right of dominioi upon the Continent of America between the 5()th and (iOth dejj;rees of north latitude. " Still less has she the dominion of the adjacent maritime territory, or of the foa which washes these coasts, a dominion which is only accessory to the territorial iloniinion. "Therefore, she has not the right of exclusion or of admission on these coasts, nor in these seus, which are free seas. "The right of navigating all the free seas belongs, l;y natural law, to every independent nation, and even Constitutes an essential part of this independence. " The United States have exercised navigation in the seas, and commerce upon the coasts ai)ovc mentioned, from the time of Hicir independence ; and they Imvfc a perfect right to this navigation and to tliis coninieree, and they can only be deprived of it bv their own act or by a Convention." iMr. Middleton declares that Russia had not the right of dominibn " itiiott the Conlinmt of Ainrrira heUvecn the !)Olh nnd 60tli deyrcrs of north latitude." Still less has she the dominion of " the adjacent maritime territory or the apti which washes these coasts." He finthcr declares that Russia had not the '• rifjilit of exclusion or of admission on these coasts, nor in these seas, which are free seas " — that is, tlie coast and seas between the aOth and (iOth degrees of north latitude on the liodi/ of the continent. The following remark of Mr. Middleton deserves special attention : — "The right of navigating all the free seas belongs, by natural law, to every independent nation, and even constitutes an essential part of this independence." This earnest j)rotcst by Mr. Middleton, it will be noted, was against the Ukase of Alexander which proposed to extend Russian sovereignty over the Pacific Ocean as tar south as the 5 1st degree of latitude, at which point, as Mr. Adams reminded the Russian Minister, that ocean is 4,000 miles wide. It is also to be specially noted that Mr. Middleton's double reference to " the free seas " would have no meaning whatever if he dill not recognize that freedom on certain seas had been restricted. He could not have used the phrase if lie had regarded all seas in that region as " free seas," In answer to my former reference to these facts (in my note of the 30th .June) Lord Salisbury makes this plea : — " Mr. Blaine states that when Mr. Middleton declared that Russia had no right of exclusion on the coasts of America between the 50tli and fiOth degrees of north latitude, nor in the seas which washed those coasts, he intended to make a distiction between Behring's Sea and the Pacific Ocean. But on reference to a Map it will be seen that the 60th degree of north latitude strikes straight across Behring's Sea, leaving by far the larger and more important part of it to the south; so that I confess it appears to me that by no conceivable construction of his words can Mr. Middleton be supposed to have excepted that sea from those which he declared to be free." If his Lordship had examined his Map somewhat more closely, he would have found mv statement literally correct. When Mr. Middleton referred to "the Continent of [95J G 2 •• 44 America between the 50th and 60th degrees ot north latitude," it was impnaslble that he could have referred to the coast of Rehring's Sea, for the very Himple iciiHon that the 50th degree of latitude is iiltogethcr south of the Bchring's Sea. Tlic (net tlmt the 60th parallel " strikes straight acrnss tlie Rchriiig's Sea " has no more peitinince to this discuHsiou thai) if his Lordship had remarki-d that the same parallel piissis tliiou'li the Sea of Okhotsk, which lies to the west of Hchring's Sea, just as the arm of the NnriL Pacific lies to the east of it. Mr. Middleton was denying Russia's doniinion iiih, a continuous line of coast upon the continent hetwecn two spccitied points uiiii dvi the waters washing that coast. There is such a continous line of coast between tlu 50th and GOth degrees on the Pacific Ocean ; hut there is no such line ol const on tin Behring's Sea, even if you measure from the southernmost island of the Aleiitiaiuhiiin. In a word, the argument of Lord Salisbury on this point is based upon a ge()!;rn|)l)ir,il impossibility. (See illustrative Map on opposite i)age.) But, if there could be any doubt left as to what coast and to wimt wnttrs Mr. Middleton referred, an analysis of the last paragrapli of the 4th Protocol will (jisi,,] that doubt. When ^Ir. Middleton declared tliat " thr Uiiitrd Stntm have cnrriw navigation in the seas, and commerce upon thr coasts above mentioned, from the time nf thfir independence," he makes the same declaration that had been previously made hy Mr. Adams. That declaration could only refer to the north-west coast as I have destiihei it, or as Mr. Middleton phrases it, " the Continent of America between the 50th iiiul Goth degrees of north latitude." Even his Lordship would not dispute the fact that it was upon tiiis coast and in tlic waters washing it that the United States and Great Britain had exercised free iiavigatioii and commerce continuously since 1784. By no iiossibility could that navigation m\ commerce have been in the Behring's Sea. Mr. Middleton, a close student of histor\, iiiiii experienced in diplomacy, could not have declared that the United States had " exeidjud navigation " in the Behring's Sea, and "commerce upon its coasts," /rom the time nfthnr independence. As a matter of history, there was no trade and no navigation (except the navigation of explorers) by the United States and Great Britain in the Behring's Sen in 1784, or even at the time these Treaties were negotiated. Captain Cook's voya^'e nf exploration and discovery through the waters of that sea was completed at the close if the year 1778, and his " Voyage to the Pacific Ocean " was not published in London uiiii! five years after his death, which occurred at the Sandwich Islands on the Htli Febiumv, 1779. The Pribyloff Islands were first discovered, one in 1786 and the other in 1'^;, Seals were taken there for a few years afterwards by the Lebedef Company of Rus^ia, subsequently consolidated into the Russian- American Company; but the taking of seals on those islands was then discontinued by the Russians until 1803, when it was resinnd by the Russian- American Company. At the time these Treaties were negotiated there was only one Settlement, and that of Russians, on the shores of the Behring's Sea, and the only trading vessels which hud entered that sea were the vessels of the Russian Fur Company. Exploring expeditions had, of course, entered. It is evident, therefore, without further statement, that neither the vessels of the United States nor of Great Britain nor of any other Power than Russia hud traded on the shores of Behring's Sea prior to the negotiations of these Treaties. No more convincing proof could be adduced that these Treaties had reference solely to the waters and coasts of t^^e continent south of the Alaskan Peninsula — simply the " Pacitic Ocean" and the "north-west coast" named in the Treaties. ;■ ; The lllrd Arti'.lo H the British Treaty, as printed in the British State Papers, is as follows : — " The line of demarcation between the possessions of the High Contracting Paities upon the coast of the continent and the islands of America to the north-west shall be drawn in the manner following : — " Commencing from the southernmost point of the island called Prince of Wales Island, which point lies in the parallel of 54° 40' north latitude, and between the 131st and the 133rd degree of west longitude (meridian of Greenwich), the said line shall ascend to the north along the channel called Portland Channel, as far as the point of the continent where it strikes the .lOth degree of north latitude ; from this last-mentioned point the lint oi demarcation shall follow the summit of the mountains situated parallel to the coast, as far as the point of intersect'on of the 141st degree of west longitude (of the same meridian); and, finally, from the said point of intersection the said meridian line of the 14 1st degree, in its prolongation as far as the Frozen Ocean, shall for.-n the limit between the Russiaa and the British possessions on the Continent of America to the north-west." 1^^ i 1 1- |jEnRnk% 1 i' ^ i^raS 1 H^BBS ^: - ■iWBfn 1 #, f ■^Hn ' , J|; i H^^ml ; ;? ^Kt'' ^^^^1 \ 1 ■■ w J^^ SECTION OF A TRACK CHART 0^ 1HF W 40 ,20- f^O* '"^0* iSO* EIJEIIECIBZECi^ZSIBlL i \-i H rso 60' iro' I go i^^Mflf liifai^ i CHART or THF WORLD. COVIKINC TtiF BTHKINC SEA tk '1 of 54" ^ T^HT.-'^K SBH5 IMi m '^!^ ■ " 45 It will be observed that this Article explicitly delimits the boundary between British America and the Russian possessions.. This delitiiitation is in minute detail from 54° 40' to the northern terminus of the coast known as the north-west coast. AV iieii tlie houndaiv- line reaches that point (opposite 60° north latitude) where it intersects the 141st degree of west longitude, all particularity of description ceases. Fron> that point it is projected directly northward for 600 or 700 miles without any reference to coast-line, without any reference to points of discovery or occupation (tor there were none in that int^?rior country), but simply on a longitudinal line as far north as the Frozen or Arctic Ocean. What more striking interpretation of the Treaty could there be than this boundary- line itself? It could not be clearer if the Britisii negotiators had been recorded as saying to the Russian negotiators : — "Here is the north-west coast to which we have disputed your claims — from the 51st to the 60th degree of north latitude. We will not, in any event, admit your right south of 54° 40'. From 54° 40' to the point of junction with the I41st degree of west longitude we will agree to your possession of the coast. That will cover the dispute between us. As to the body of the continent above the point of intersection, at the 141st degree of longitude, we know nothing, nor do you. It is a vast unexplored wilderness. We have no Settlements there, and you have none. We have, therefore, no conflicting interests with your Government. The simplest division of that territory is to accept the prolonga- tion of the 141st degree of longitude to the Arctic Ocean as the boundary. East of it the territory shall be British. West of it the territory shall be Russian." And it was so finally settitd Article IV of the Anglo-Russiai. Treaty is as follows : — " With reference to the line of demarcation laid down in the preceding Article it is understood : " 1. That the island called Prince of Wales Island shal' belong wholly to Russia. "2. That wherever the summit of the mountains which extend in a direction parallel to the coast, from the 5Gth degree of north latitude to the point of intersection of the 141st de<?ree of west longitude, shall prove to be at the distance of more than 10 marine leagues from the ocean, the limit between the British possessions and tlie line of coast which is to belong to Russia, as above mentioned, sliall be formed by ' a line parallel to the windings of the coast, and which shall never exceed the distance of 10 marine leagues there- from.'" The evident design of this Article was to make certain and dciinite the boundary-line along the line of coast, should there be any doubt as to that line as laid down in Article III. It provided that the boundary-line, following the windings of the coast, should never be more than 10 marine leagues therefrom. The Vth Article of the Treaty between Great Britain and Russia reads thus: — " It is, moreover, agreed that no establishment shall be formed by either of the two Parties within the limits assigned by the two preceding Articles to the possessions of the I'll ^r. Consequently, British subjects shall not form any establishment either upon the '"! .t or upon the border of the continent comprised within the limits of the Russian pos- ■^ ■ as, as designated in the two preceding Articles ; and, in like manner, no establish- 1 .,: ?hall be formed by Russian subjects beyond the said limits." The plain meaning of this Article is that neither Party shall make Settlements within the limits assigned by the Illrd and IVth Articles to tbj; possession of the other. Conse- quently, the Illrd and IVth Articles are of supreme importance as making the actual deli- mitations between the two countries, ani' forbiddinj each to form any establishments within the limits of the other. The Vlth Article of Russia's Treaty with Great Britain is as follows: — " It is understood that the subjects of His Britannic Majesty, from whatever quarter tlity may arrive, whether from the ocean or from the interior of the co( tinent, shall lor ever enjoy the right of navigating freely, and without any hindrance whatever, all the rivers and streams which, in their course toward the Pacific Ocean, may cross the line of i' I liii'Ccition upon the line of coast described in Article III of tiio present Con- vention." The meaning of this Article is not obscure. The sulyects of Great Britain, whether arriving from the interior of the continent or Irom the ocean, shall enjoy the right of navi- gating freely all the rivers and streams which, in their co ursc to the Pacific ' Vean. mnij cress i anitf* 40 the line of demarcation upon the line of const described in Article TIL As is |)liiihly n|)|)tii(ii( llie coast velerrred to in Avticlc III is tlie coast south of tlie poilit of jiiiic'tioii iiirciuiv licscribct!. Notiiiny; is clearer tiian tlio reason tor this pmvision. A .s7r?/) Bf /(t»ff, at nii jioiht wider timn 10 marine leagues, runnin;? aloni; the I'acilic Ocean i'roin r)4° 4(1' b>\]\]~ {[VJO miles by geographical line, by the \vinflini;sot' the coast three times that distanee), lyas O'isiyned to Russia hy the llird Article. Directly to the east of this strip of land— or, as might be said, behind it — lay the Jiritish possessions. To shut out the inliabitailts of the British possessions from the sea by this striyj of land, would have been not only utueasonable, hut intolerable to Great Britain. Russia promptly conceded the privilege, and ^ave to Great Britain the ri^bt of navigating all rivers crossing that strip of land from 54° 40' to the point of intersection with the 141st degree of longitude. Without this concession tlic Treaty could not have been made. I do not understand that Lord Salisbury dissents d'om this obvious construction of the \'lth Article, for in his despatch he says that the Article has a "restricted bearing," and refers only to " the line of coast described iti Article III " (the italics are his o"vn), and the only line of coast described in Article III is the const from R4° 40' to GO^. There is no description of the eoa>.t above that point sti etching nloii" the Behring's Sea from latitude 60° to tiic Straits of Hehring. The Vllth Article of the Anglo-Russian Treaty, whose jirovisions have led to tlie principal contention between the United States and Great Britain, is as follows ; — " It is also understood that for the space of ten years from the signature of the present Co ' itimi the vessels of the two Powers, or those belonging to their respective sul)jects, shii My be at liberty to frequent, witliout any hindrance whatever, all the inland seas, th. , [lavens, and creeks on the coast mentioned in Article III, for the purposes of flshiii id of trading with the natives." In the judgment of the President the meaning of this Article is altogether plain and clear. It provides that for the space of ten years the vessels of the two Powers should mutually be at liberty to frequent all the inland seas, &c., " on the coast mentioned in Ai-tlcle in, for the purpose of fishing and trading with the natives." Following olit the line of my argument and the language of the Article, I have already maintained th;it this privilege could only refer to the coast from 54° 40' to the point of intersection with the Hist degree of west longitude; that, therefore, British subjects were not granted the right of frequenting the liehring's Sea. Denying this construction, Lord SaUsbury says : — " I must further dissent from Mr. Blaine's interpretation of Article Vll of tlic latter Treaty (British). That Article gives to the vessels of the two Powers 'liberty to frequent all the inland seas, gulfs, havens, and creeks on the coast mentioned in Article til, for the purpose of fishing and of trading with the natives.' The expression ' coast mentioned in Article III' can only refer to the first words of the Article, 'the line of demarcation between the possessions of the High Contracting Parties upon the coast of the continent and the islands of America to the north-west shall be drawn,' &c., that is to say, it included all the possessions of the two Powers on the north-west coast of America. For there would have been no sense whatever in stipukting that Russian vessels should have freedom of access to the small portion of coast which, by a later part of the Article, is to belong to Russia. And, as bearing on this point, it will be noticed that Article Vl, which has a more restricted bearing, sneaks only of ' the subjects of His Britannic Majesty ' and of ' the line of coast described in Article III.' " It is curious to note the embarrassing intricacies of his Lordship's language and the erroneous assumption upon which his argument is based. He admits that the privileges granted in the Vlth Article to the subjects of Great Britain are limited to "the coast described in Article III of the Treaty." But when he reaches the Vllth Article, wiieic the privileges granted are limited to "the coast mentioned in Article III of the Treaty," his Lordship maintains that tlie two references do not mean the same coast at all. The roast described in Article III and the coast mentioned in Article III are, therefore, in his Lordsliip's judgment, entirely different. The "coast described in Article III " is limited, he admits, by the intersection of the boundary-line with the Hist degree of longitude, but the "coast mentioned in Article HI" stretches to the Straits of Behring. The IlIrd Article is, indeed, a very ])lain one, and its meaning cannot be obscured. Observe that the " line of demarcation " is between the possessions of both parties on the coast of the continent. Great Britain had no possessions on the coast-line above the point of junction with the 141st degree, nor had she any Settlements above 60° north latitude, '^Mth of '30° north latitude was the only place where Great Britain had possessions on the mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm coast-line. North of that point her territory had no connection wliatever witli the coast either of the Pacific Ocean or tiie Behring's Sea. It is thus evident that the only coant referred to in Article ill was this strip of land south of Od^ or itSt'^ [W. The preamhle closes hy saying that the line ot' demarcation between the possessions on the coast "shall he drawn in the manner following:," vi/. : From I'rincc of Wales Islanil, in S4° 40', alonpt I'ortland Channel and the summit of the mountains parallel to the coast as far as their intersection with the I4l,s7 degree of lomjitude. After having iiuribed this line of demarcation hetwcen the possessions of hoth parties on the coast, the remaining sentence of the Article shows that, " finally, from the said point qf intersection, the snid meridian-line .... shall form the limit between the Knssian and British possession* on the Continent of America." South of the jioint of intersection the Article describes H lint of demarcation between possessions on the coast; north of tliat point of intersection the Article designates a mcridiau-lino as the limit bptv^een possessions on the continent. The argument of Lord Salisbur;. appears to this Government not only to contradict t!ie i.bvious meaning of the Vllth and Ilird Articles, but to destroy their logical connection with the other Articles. In fact, Lord Salisbury's attempt to make tu'o coasts out of the one coast referred to in the Illrd Article is not only out of harmony with the plain provisions of th.e Anglo-Russian Treaty, but is inconsistent with the preceding part of his own argument. These five Articles in the British Treaty (the Illrd, IVth, Vth, Vlth, and Vllth) are expressed with an exactness of meaning which no argument can change or pervert. In a later part of my ncte I shall be able, I think, to explain why the Russian Government elaborated the Treaty with Great Britain with greater precision and at greater length than was employed in framing the Treaty with the United States. It will be remeutbeied that hetween the two Treaties there was an interval of more than ten months — the Treaty with the United States being negotiated in April 1824, and that with Great Britain in February 182.5. During that interval something occurred which made Russia more careful and more ovactiug in her negotiations with Great Britain than she had been with the United States. What was it ? It is only necessary to quote the Illrd and IVth Articles of the American Treaty to prove that less attention was given to their consideration than was given to the formation of the British Treaty with Russia. The two Articles in the American Treaty are as follows : — "Article III. It is, moreover, agreed that hereafter there shall not be formed by the citizens of the United States, or under the authority of the said States, any establish- ment upon the north-west coast of America, nor in any of the islands adjacen', to the north of 54° 40' of north latitude; and that, in the same manner, there shall be none formed by Russian subjects, or under the authority of Russia, south of ths same parallel. " Article IV. It is, nevertheless, understood that during a term of ten years, counting from the signature of the present Convention, the ships of both Powers, or which belong to thiir citizens or subjects respectively, may reciprocally frequent, without any hindrance whatever, the interior seas, gulfs, harbours, and creeks upon the coast mentioned in the preceding Article, for the purpose of fishing and trading witlj the natives of the country." It will be noted that in the British Treaty four Articles, with critical expression of terms, take the place of the Illrd and IVth Articles of the American Treaty, which were evidently drafted with an absence of the caution on the part of Russia which marked the work of the Russian Plenipotentiaries in the British negotiation. From some cause, not fully explained, great uneasiness was felt iq certain Russian circles, and especially among the members of the Russian-American Company, when the Traity between Russia and tiie United States was made public. The facts leading to the uneasiness were not accurately known, and from that cause they were exaggerated. The Russians who were to be affected hy the Treaty were in doubt as to the possible eJfVent implied by the phrase " north-west coast of America," as referred to in the H|ih.I and IVth Articles. The phrase, as I have before said, was used in two senses, and they feared it might have such a construction as would carry the American privilege to the Straits of Behring. They feared, moreover, that the uncertainty of the coast referred to in Article HI might, by construction adverse to Russia, include the Behring's Sea among the seas and gulfs mentioned in Article IV. If that construction should prevail, not only the American coast, but the coast of Siberia and the Aleutian coasts, might also lie ihvown i I Si : \ .1 I ,1 ;- 48 open to the impress of ymiericiin fishentien. So great and genuine was tlieir fri;;Iit that they were aUc to iiidr.ce the Russian Government to demand a fresh discussion of the Treaty before tiicy would consent to excliange ratifications. It is easy, tlierefore, to discern the facts wiiich caused the difference in precision between tlic American and Britisii Treaties witii Russia, and wiiieii at the same time "ive conclusive force t<i the argument steadily maintained by the Government 'of the United States. These facts have thus l.ir only been hinted at, and I have the right to presume liiat they have not yet fallen uniler the observation of Lord Salisbury. The President hopes that after the facts are prc^^cnted tiie American contention will no longer be denied or resisted by Her Majesty's Government. Nearly eight months after the Russo-Anieriean Treaty was negotiated, and before the exchange of ratifications had yet taken place, there was a remarkable interview between Secretary Adams and the Russian Minister. 1 (|Uote frou! Mr. Adams' diary, the 6th December, 182-1 :— " C)th, Mondaij. — Baron Tuyl, the Russian Minister, wrote mo a note requesting an immediate interview, in consequence of instructions received yesterday from his Conrt. He came, and, after intimating that he was under some embarrassment in executing his instructions, said that the Russian-American Company, upon learning the purport of the North-West Coast Convention concluded last June by Mr. Middleton, were extremelv dissatisfied ('a jetee de hauls cris'), and, by means of their infiucnce, had prevailed \ipon his Government to send him these instructions upon two points. One was that he should deliver, upon the exchange of the ratifications of the Convention, an explanatory note purporting that the Russian Government did not understand that the Convention would give liberty to the citizens of the United States to trade on the coast of Siberia .aid the Aleutian Islands. The other was to propose a modification of the Convention, by which our vessels should be prohibited from trading on ihe north-west coast north of latitude 57°. With regard to the former of these points he left with me a Minute in writing." With this preliminary statement Baron Tuyl, in accordance with instructions from his Government, submitted to Mr. Adams the following note : — " Explanatory Note from Russia. "Explanatory note to be presented to the Goveinment of the United States at the time of the exchange of ratifications, witii a view to removing with mure certauity all occasion for futun^ discussions ; by means of which note it will be seen that the Aleutian Islatids, the coants of Siberia, and the Russian posses»ions in general on ihe north-west comt of America to 59° '30' of north latitude are positively excepted from the liberty of hunting, fishing, and commerce stipulated in favour of citizens of the United States for ten years. '• This seems to h^ only a natural conse(|ueiice of the stipulations agreed upon, lor the coasts of Siberia are washed by the Sea of Okhotsk, the Sen of Ivamschatka, and the Icy Sea, and not by the South Sea mentioned in the 1st Article of the Convention of the .'ith (17th) April, 1824. The Aleutian hlands are also wasiied by the Sea of Kamschatka, or Northern Ocean. "It is not the intention of Russia to impede the free na'->nation of the Pacific Ocean. She would be satisfied with causing to be recognized, as well u .uerstood and placed beyond all manner of doubt, the principle that beyond 59° 30' no foreign vessel can approach her coasts and her islands, nor fish or hunt within the distance of 2 marine leagues. Tliis will not prevent the reception of foreign vessels which have been damaged or beaten by storm." The course pursued by Mr. Adams, after the Russian note had been submitted to him, is fully told in his diary, from which I again quote : — " I told Baron Tuyl that we should be disposed to do every thing to accommodate the views of his Government that was in our power, but that a modification of the Convention could be made no otherwise than by a new Convention, and that the construction of the Convention as concluded belonged to other Departments of the Government, for which the Executive had no authority to stipulate, ... I added that the Convention would be submitted immediately to the Senate ; that if anything att'ecting its construction, or, still more, modifying its meaning, were to be presented on the part of the Russian Government before or at the exchange of the ratifications, it must be laid before the Senate, and could have no other possible effect than of starting doubts, and, perhaps, hesitaiion, in that body, and of favouring the views of those, if such there were, who might wish to defeat the ^ sir fright that cussioii of the e in precision ;ame time i,'ive •of the United ;ht to presume The President iger be denied and before the ;rvicw between ms' diary, the ; requesting an rom his Court. n executing his purport of the were extremely |)rcvailed \ipon 5 that lie should xplanatory note invention would Siberia ond the jntion, by wiiich 1 of hititude 57°. i"g." actions from his States at tiie jre certauity all that the Aleutimi north-went comt ty of hunting, for ten years. reed upon, lor latka, and the nventiou of the of Kamscliatka, Pacific Ocean. d placed beyond m approach her ; leagues. This ;ed or beaten by ibmitted to him, ccommodate the the Convention istruction of the iment, for which entioQ would be truction, or, still ian Government enate, and could on, in that body, " to defeat the rfitification itself of the Convention. ... If, therefore, he would permit n>e to suggest to liim wlijit T thought would be his best course, it would be to wait for the exchange of the Mtirications, iind make it purely and siin])ly ; that afterwards, if the instructions of his fjoverninent were i nipt rati vr,, he mif^ht present the note, to which I now informed him nhnt would be. in substance, my answer. It necessarily could not be otherwise. But, if 1,1,; instructions left it discretionary with liini, he would do still better to inform his fioveriinient of the state of tliinns iierc, of the purport of our conference, and of what my answer must be if he should present the note. I believed his Court would then deem it best that he sliould not present the note at all. Their apprehension had been e.vcited by an interest not very frierHlly to the good understand tnij between the United States and Russia. Our merchants would not go to trouble the lius.^ians on the roast of Siberia, or north of the 'ulh deqree of hititude, and it was wisest not to put such fancies into their heads. At least llie Imperial Govertunent might wait to see the operation of the Convention before tailing anv further steps, and / was confident they would hear no complaint resulting from it. If thev should, then would be the time for adjusting the construction or negotiating a modification of the Convention." . . . The Russian Minister was decj^ly impressed by what Mr. Adams had said. He had not before clearly perceived the inei.itable effect if he sljould insist on presenting the note ill the lorni of a deuiaiid. He was not prepared for so serious a result as the destruction inthe indefinite postponsment of the Treaty between Russia and the United States, and ]h. Adams readily convinced him that at the exchange of ratifications no modification of the Treaty could be made. The only two courses^ open were, first, to ratify ; or, second, to refuse, and annul the Treaty. Mr. Adams reports the words of the Minister in reply :— " The Baron said that these ideas had occurred to himself; that be had made this application in pursuance of his instructions, but he was aware of the distribution of powers ill our Constitution, and of the incompetency of the Exeeutivei to adjust such questions. He would therefore wait for the exchange of the ratifications without presenting his note, , and reserve for future consideration whether to present it shortly afterwards or to inform his Court of what he has done and ask their further instructions upon what he shall I definitely do on the subject." . . . As Baron Tuyl surrendered his opinions to the superior judgment of Mr. Adams, ilie ratifications of the Treaty were exchanged on the 11th day of January, and on the following day the Treaty was formally proclaimed. A fortnight later, on the 25th January, 1825, Baron Tuyl, following the instructions of his Government, filed his note in the Department of State. Of course, his act at that time did not affect the text of be Tre ity ; but it placed in the hands of the Government of the United States an wiotficial note which significantly told what Russia's construction of the Treaty would be i;, unhappily, any ditlcrence as to its meaning should arise between the two Governments. Bill Mr. Adams' friendly intimation removed all danger of dispute, for it conveyed to Russia the assurance that tlie Treaty, as negotiated, contained, in effect, the provisions viiicli the Russian note was designed to supply. From that time until Alaska, with all its lights of land and water, was transferred to the United States — a period of forty-three I years— no act or word on the part of either Government ever impeached the full validity ul the Treaty as it was understood both by Mr. Adams and by Baron Tuyl at the time it I lias formally proclaimed. While these important matters were transpiring in Washington, negotiations between I Russia and Engla.^d (ending in the Treaty of 1825) were in progress in St. Petersburgh. Tlie instructions to Baron Tuyl concerning the Russian-American Treaty were fully reflected in the care with which the Anglo-Kussian Treaty was constructed, a fact to which have already adverted in full. There was, indeed, a possibility that the true meaning I jf the Treaty with the United States might be misunderstood, and it was therefore the evident purpose of the Russian Government to make the Treaty with England so plain and so clear as to leave no room for doubt and to baffle all attempts at misconstruction. Tlie (lovernment of the United States finds the full advantage to it in the caution taken W Russia in 1825, and can therefore quote the Anglo-Russian Treaty, with the utmoat confidence that its meaning cannot be changed from that clear unmistakable text which, |t'iroughout all the Articles, sustains the American contention. The " explanatory note," filed with this Government by Baron Tuyl, is so plain in its J text that, after the lapse of sixty-six years, the exact meaning can neither be mis- I apprehended nor misrepresented. It draws the distinction between the Pacific Ocean and [95] H \ 1? m !. m M -'■ ! y ! the waters now known ns the Behring's Sen so particularly and so perspicuovislv that no answer can be mnrle to if. It will hear the closest analysis in everv particular. "h\>, not the intention of Russia to impede tlie free iiavin;ation of the Pacifie Ocean !" This frank and explicit statement shows with what entire jiood faith Russia had witlidraivn, in both Treaties, the ollcnsive Ukase of Ale.'iander, so far as the Pacific Ocean was mad? subject to it. Another avowal is e(|ually explicit, viz,, that " the coast of Siherin, the north-west coast of America to 59" 30' of north latitude [that is, down to ,19^ 'M)\ tlie explanatory note reekoninp; from north to south] and the Aleutian Islands are positivolv excepted from the liberty of hunting, fishing, and commerce stipulated in favour of citizens of the United States for ten years." The reason uivcn for this exclusion is moat .si2;nificnnt in connection with the pendinpr discussion, namely, that the coasts of Siberia are waslud by the Sea of Okhotsk, the Sea of Kamschatka, and the ley Sen, and not by the "South Sea " [Pacific Ocean] mentioned in the 1st Article of the Convention of the ,')th (ITth) April, 1824. The Aleutian Islands are also washed by the Sea of Kamschatka, nr Northern Ocean (Northern Ocean beinj; used in contradistinction to ?outh Sea or Pncilic Ocean). The liberty of hunting, fishino;, and commerce mentioned in tlie Treaties \w therefore confined to the coast of the Pacific Ocean south of .'iO" SO' botli to the United States and Great Britain. It must certainly he ap|)arent now to Lord Salisiiury that Russia never intended to include the Behring's Sea in the phrase " Pacific Ocean." The American argument on that (]uestion has been signally vindicated by the official declara- tion of the Russian Govermnent. In addition to the foregoing, Russia claimed Jurisdiction of 2 marine leagues from the shore in the Pacific Ocean, a point not finally insisted upon in either Treaty. The Protocols, however, show that Great Britain was willing to agree to the 2 marine \ea^m'f, but the United Slates was not; and, after the concession was made to the United States, Mr. G. Canning insisted upon its being made to Great Britain also. In the interview between the American Secretary of State and the Russian Minister, in December 1824, it is worth noting that Mr. Ada.ns believed that the application made by Baron Tuyl had its origin "in the appreiiension of the Court of Russia which hud been caused by an interest not very friendly to the good imderstanding between the United States and Russia." I ))resume no one need be told that the reference here made by JVIr. Adams was to the Government of (Jreat Britain ; that the obvious efibrt of the British Government at that time was designed to make it certain that the United States j should not have the power in tlie waters and on the shores of Behring's Sea which, Lord Salisburij now aigties, had uiidoubtedh/ been given both to the United States and Gnal Britain by the Treatiex. It is to be remembered that Mr. Adams' entire argument was to quiet Baron Tuvl with the assurance that the Treaty already negotiated was, in effect, just what the Russian Government desired it to be by the incorporation of the "explanatory note" of which Bnron Tuyl was the bearer. Mr. Adams was not a man to seize an advantage merely hy cunning construction of languaue which might have two meanings. He was determined to remove the hesitation and distrust entertained for the moment by Russia. He went so I far, indeed, as to give an assurance that American ships would not go above 57' north latitude (Sitka), and he did not want the text of the Treaty so changed as to mention the facts contained in the explanatory note, because, speaking of the hunters and the fishermen, it " was wisest not to put such fancies into their heads." It is still further noticeable that Mr. Adams, in his sententious expression, spoke of I the Treaty in his interview with Baron Tuyl as " the North-West Coast Convention. " This closely descriptive phrase was enough to satisfy Baron Tuyl that Mr. Adams had not taken a false view of the true limits of the 'I'reaty, and had not attempted to extenH the privileges granted to the United States a single inch beyond their plain and honourable intent. The three most confident assertions made by Lord Salisbury, and regarded by him as I mianswerable, are, in his own language, the following : — 1. That England refused to admit any part of the Russian claim asserted by tlie I Ukase of 1821 of a tTiaiitime jurisdiction and exclusive right of fishing throughout the whole 'jxtent of that claim, from Bel) ring's Straits to the 51st parallel. 'I. That the Convention of 1825 was regarded on both sides as a renunciation on the| part of Russia of that claim in its entirety. 3. That, though Behring's Straits were known and specifically provided for, I Bfehring's Sea was not known by that name, but was regarded as a part of the Pacific Ocean. The explanatory note of the Russian Government disproves and denies in detail thfcSe three ssertions of Lord Salisbury. I think they are completely disproved by the M jug's Sea whici), States and Great lunciafion on the facts recited in this despatch, but the explanatory note is a specific contradiction of each one of tiiem. T!ie inclosures which accompanied Lord Salisbury's despatch, and which are (|UOtc(l to streiifliien his iirsiiiifiits, seem to nic to sustain, in a remarkable manner, the poMtiou of the United Slates. The first inelosure is a desptiteli IVom Lord Lonclonderry to Count Lieven, Russian Minister at hoadon, ditted Foreijin Office, tl»e 1 6tli January, 18'J2. Tiic first paragraph of this despatcli is as Ibliows : - "The Undersigned has the honour to acl<iio\vieda;e tlie note addressed to him by Baron de Nicolai of the I'Jth September last, covering a copy of a Ukase issued by his liiipariHl .Master, Kmperor of all the Ilussias, bearing date the 4th September, 18il, for various purposes therein set forth, fspcrialli/ cnnnrctcfl iritli llie tvrritnrial riyhln of his Croini nil the norlh-wed caast of Anirrica honleriruj on I he Pacific Ocean, and the commerce ml navigation of His Imperial Majestjfs subjects in the seas adjacent thereto." It is altogether apparent that tiiis despatch is limited to the withdrawal of the provisions of the Ukase issued by tiic Emperor Alexar.der, especially comiected with the territorial riijhts on the north-west const horderiiuj on the Pacific Ocean. Evidently Lord Londonderry nudies no reference, direct or indirect, to tiie liehring's Sea. The whole scope of his contention, as defined by inmself, lies outside of the field of the present dispute between the British and Ameiiean Governments, This Government heartily agrees with Lord Londonderry's form of stating the question. Tiie Duke of Wellington was England's Weprcsentativo in the Congress of Verona, for wliicli pbce he set out in the autumn ot 1822. His instructions from Mr. G. Canning, British Secretary of Foreign Affairs, followed the jirecise line indicated by Lord Londonderry in the despatch above quoted. This is more plainly shown by a " Memo- randum on the Russian Ukase" delivered by the Duke on the 1 7th October to Count Nesselrode, Russia's Representative at Verona. Tiic Duke was arguing against the Ukase of Alexander, as it affected British interests, and his language plainly shows that he confined himself to the "north-west coast of America bordering oh the Pacific Ocean." To e.-itabiish this it is only necessary to (piote the following paragraph from the Duke's Memorandum, viz. ; — " Now, we can prove that the English North- West Company and the Hudson's Bay Company have for many years established forts and other trading places in a country called New Caledonia, situated to the west of a range of mountains called the Rocky Mountains, and extending along the shores of the Pacific Ocean from latitude 49° ta latitude (iO° north." Tlie Duke of Wellington always went directly to the |)oint at issue, and he was evidently not concerning himself about any subject other than the protection of the English terri'ory south of the Alaskan Peninsula, and on the north-west coast bordering on the Pacific Ocean. England owned no territory on the coast north of the Alaskan Peninsula, and hence there was no reason for connecting the coast above the peninsula in ;iny way with the (piestion before the Congress. Evidently the Duke did not, in the remotest manner, connect the subject he was discussing with the waters or the shores of the Behring's Sea. The most significant and important of all the inclosures is No. 12, in which Mr. Stratford Canning, the British negotiator at St. Petersiiurgb, communicated, under date of the 1st March, 1825, to Mr. G. Canning, Minister of Foreign Affairs, the text of the Treat\ between England and Russia. Some of Mr. Stratford Canning's statements are very important. In the second paragraph of his letter he makes the following state- ment : — "The line of demarcation along the strip of land on the north-west coast of America assigned to Russia is laid down in the Convention agreeably to your directions." .... After all, then, it appears that the " strip of land," to which we have already referred more than once, was reported by the English Plenipotentiary at St. Petersburgh. This clearly and undeniably exhibits the field of controversy between Russia and lingland, even if we had no other proof of the fact, ft was solely on the north-west coast bordering on the Pacific Ocean, and not in the Behring's Sea at all. It is the same strip of land which the United States acquired in the purchase of Alaska, and runs from 54° 40' to tiO" north latitude — the same strip of land which gave to British America, lying behind it, a free access to the ocean. [951 H 2 i -^i I 1.- ^ ■^ '^V : '^\ I ill 111. 59 Mr. Stratford Cnnning also communicHted, in his letter of the Ist March, the following; : — " With respect to Hchrinf;'s Straits, I nta \\i\\)\ty to have it in my power to nssmc you, on the joint nutliority of tlie Russian I'lcnipoteiUiaries, that Ihr limpi'iar of Run.m hitH no iiitenlloii irliiilever of niaintitlniiKj uni/ C'Vclusivv claiiii to the navlyalion uf Iku.sv slrni^ or of Hie smu to the norlli of them.' This assurance from the Emperor of Russia is of that kind where the power *(i ^iy,. or to williiiold is absolute. If the Treaty of l^t2r> between (Jrcat Hritaii. and Kus^m Im,! conceded such rij!;l)ts in the Heliring waters as Lord Salisl)ury now claims, whv u,,. Sir Stratford Canning so " liajipy " to "have it in ins power to assure" tlie llnti>!i Foreign Office, on "the authority of two Russian Plenipotentiaries," that '• tlic Hiii|il'ii)1' had no intention of maintaining an exclusive claim to tlie navigation of tin; R(liiiiii;'s Straits," or of the " seas to the north of them." 'J'lie sms to the noiitli of the .slmii.s wire most significantly not in'-Kided in the Imperial assurance. 'I'lie Knglisii statesmen of tlmt day had, as 1 have before remarked, attempted the abolition of the Ukase of Altxaiidei' only so far as it affected the coast of the Pacific Ocean from the ."Jlsl to tiu; (iOtii de;;ii • of north latitude. It was leit in full force on the shores of the Hi'lning's Sea. Tiiere is no proof whatever that the Russian Emperor aimulled it there. That sea, from east in west, is mC'IO miles in extent; from north to south it is 1,000 miles in extent. The whole of this great body of water, under the I'kase, was left open to the world, excc|it u strip of 100 miles from the shore. Put with these 100 miles enforced on all the coMstsot the Bchring's Sea it would he obviously impossible to ajiproaeb tiic! Straits of Pclnini;, which were less than flO mihs in extreme width. If enforced strictly, tiie Ukasu would cut off all vessels from ])assing tbrouj;li the straits to the Arctic Ocean. If, as Linl Salisbury claims, the Ukase had been withdrawn from the entire Reining coast, as it was between the .'>lst and GOth degrees on the Pacific coast, what need would there liavi; been for Mr. Stratford Canning, the Knglish Plenipotentiary, to seek a favour from Uiissu in regard to passing through the straits into the Arctic Ocean, where scientific expeditions and whaling vessels desired to go 't I need not review all the inclooures,,but I am sure that, properly analyzed, they will all show that the subject-matter touched only the settlement of the dispute on the nonh- west coast, from the .')lst to the GOtii degree of north latitude. In other words, tluy related to the contest which was finally adjusted by tlie establishment of the line .Vl." 40, wiiich marked the boundary between Russian and English territory at the time of the Anglo-Russian Treaty, as to-day it marks the line of division between Alaska and 15iiti-li Columbia. But that question in no way touched the Reliring's Sea ; it was confined wliollv to the Pacific Ccean and the north-west coast. Lord Salisbury has deemed it proper, in his despatch, to call the attention of tie Government of the United States to some elementary principles of international law touching the freedom of the seas. For our better instruction he gives sundry extracts from Wheaton and Kent — our most eminent publicists — and, for further illustration, quotes from the despatches of Secretaries Seward and Fish, all maintaining the well-known principle that a nation's jurisdiction over the sea is limited to .'i marine miles from its shore line. Commenting on these quotations, his Lordship says : — " A claim of jurisdiction over the open sea which is not in accordance with the recognized principles of international law or usage may, of course, be asserted by force, but cannot be said to have any legal validity as against the vessels of other countries, except in so far as it is positively admitted in Conventional Agreements with those countries." The United States, having the most extended sea-coast of all the nations of tiic world, may be presumed to have paid serious attention to the laws and usages which define and limit maritime jurisdiction. The course of this Governr'.,.iit has been uniformly in favour of upholding the recognized law of nations on that subject. While lionl Salisbury's admonitions are received in good part by this Government, we feel justified in asking his Lordship if the Government of Great Britain has uniformly illustrateil these precepts by example, or whether she has not established at least one notable l)recedent which would justify us in making greater denu\nds upon Her Majesty's Government touching the Behring's Sea than either our necessities or our desires have ever suggested ? The precedent to which I refer is contained in tiie following narrative : — Napoleon Bonaparte fell into the power of Great Britain on the 1.0th July, 1815. The disposition of the illustrious prisoner was primarily determined by a Treaty negotiated at Paris on the 2nd of the following August between Great Britain, llussiii, power ♦() piv(, ttention of tl.« lations of tlio usages which jeun uniformly Prussia, antl Austria. Ry tliut Treaty "tlio oijstody of Napoleon m speeiaily intrusted to ihf liritixli fiovernnient." The ehoice of the place and of the measincH wiiieli eouhl hcst HiTiiri' the piisoiier were es|)eeially reserved to His Miitaiinie Majesty. In pnrsnanee of this power, Napoleon was promptly sent hy (Ireat Hritani to the Island of St. Helena as a |iri»i)ii('r for lite. Six months alter lie re.ielied St. Helena tlie British I'aVliament enaeted as|)etial and extraordinary Law lor the purpose of maKinif his detention more secure. It was iilto;;etiier a inemorahle Statute, and ^;ave to the Mritisii (Jovernor of the Island of ,St, Ikhna remarkahle powers over the property and riu;hts of other nations. The Statute contains eif;ht hmn seetions, and in the 4th section assumes the power to exclude ships ni any nationality, not only I'rom landinj; on the island, hut forhids ihein "to hover within 8 l('ii<,nit's of the coast of the island." The penalty for hoverinu' within H leanues of the (oiist is the forfeiture of tlie ship to Mis .Mujest.y the Kini: ot Great Britain, on trial to he jiad in London, and the olfenee to he the same as if committed in the County of Midillesex, This |)ower was not assumed hy a military eonnnander, pleadinj; the silenee ol liuv amid the clash of arms ; nor was it eonterred hy the power of civil (,'overninent in 11 crisis of puhlic (lani,'er. It vvas a I'arliatnentary emietment in a season of profound peace that was not hroken in llurope hy war anionj,' the (Ireat I'owers lor eight-and-lhirtv vcfirs thereafter. (See Inelosure C.) The British Goverinnent thus assumed exclusive and absolute control over a consideiahlc section of tiie Sonlh Atlantic Ocean, lyinu; directly in the path of the world's coiiuneree, near the capes which mark the southernmost points of both heinis|)heres, over the waters which for centuries ha<l cumieeted the shores of all continents, and uHorded the commercial hi;jiliway iVosn and to all the |)orts of the world. The body of water thus controlled, in the lorin of a circle neatly r>() miles in di^nneter, was scarcely less than "J.tiDO Mliiare miles in extent; and whatever sliij) diircd to tarry or hover within this area miiiht, regardless of its natiunality, he tbrcihly seized and summarily forfeited to the IJiitish The United States had grave and special reasons for resenting this |)ercmptory assertion of power by (Jreat Britain. On the .'Jrd day of .luiy, 1815, a fortnight after the liatlle of Waterloo and twelve days before Nui)oleoii became a prisoner of war, an important C'oimnercial Treaty was concluded at London between the United States and (ireat Britain. It was ilie sequel to the Treaty of (ihent, which was concluded some six months before, and was remarkable, not oidy from the character of its provisions, but from the eminence of the Anieiican negotiators — tJohn (ijuincy Adams, llenry C'lay, and Albert Gallatin. Among other jjrovisions of this Treaty relaxing the stringent colonial jjoliey of Enjiland wns one which agreed that American ships should be admitted and hospitid)lv received at the Island of St. Helena. Before the ratifications of the Treaty were exchanged in the following November, it was determined that Napoleon should be sent to St. Helena. England thereupon declined to ratify the Treaty unless the United States should surrender the provision resireeting that island. Alter tiial came the stringent enactment of Parliament forliiddiug vessels to hover within '2-i miles ol the island. The United States was already a great Commercial Power, She liad l,^(ll), ()()() tons of shipping ; more than .^dO ships bearing her flag were enp/'.ged in trade around iln: capes. Lord Salisbury has had much to say about the liberty of the seas, but these .■)00 American ships were denied the liberty of the seas 'vithin a space of .'iO miles wide in the South Atlantic Ocean by the express autliority of Grcut Britain. The Act of Parliament which asserted this power over tlie sea was to be in force as long as Napoleon should live. Napoleon was born the same year with VVelliiu'ton, an ■ was therefore but 'iO years of age when he was sent to St. Helena. His cx|)eetation of life was then as good as that of the Duke, who lived until i8.)2. The < ider made in April IS16 to obstruct free navigatioir in a section of the South Athmtic i • .'i; therefore, have been in force for the period of thirty-six years, if not longer. It aclu;.iiy proved to lie for live years only. Napoleon died in 1821. It is hardly conceivable that the same nation which exercised this authority in the broad Atlantic, over which, at that very time, 8()0,000,0ti0 of peop.'e made their com- mercial exchanges, should deny the right of the United States to assume control over a limited area, lor a fraction of each year, in a sea which lies far beyond the line of trade, wliose silent waters were never cloven by a commercial prow, whose iininiiabiied siiores liave no port of entry, and could never be approached on a lawful errand under any other tiag than that of the United States. Is this (government to understand that Loid Salisimry justifies the course of England ? Is this Government to understand that Lord Sali.-hury maintains the right of England, at her will and jileasure, to obstruct the highway of commerce in mid-ocean, and that she will at the same time interirose objections to the !• ;'*. It I ft II *1 ti M Uiiitrd 8tat(>H cxciTiitiii^t lirr jiiriKdiction Ik'VoihI tlic M-iuilo limit, in ii rniioto ami iiniivil ftea, lor the sole imrpose nl" pivm-iviiiy; the most viilii:il)li' liir-scul (ixla-ry in the wiiiid fniin rcnii'(iili"<!« (Ifsiincliiin V If (ircut Itiitain nIihII ('(in:'i(l(M' that tlio iiroccdciil set at St. Helena of DlHtiiiclirn to till' tiaviijahlo wutorx of tlir ocean is too remote lor ))reMMit t|in>latiiin, I iiiviic }».( attention to oiu> htili in exisienee. I'',ven lo-dav. while Her Miije-ly's (loveiniiii nt i, nidini? oik* ot her I'oloiiies to destroy the Amerwoi seal lislu'rie>, anotlu'f ( 'olnay, vmii, .icr consent, lias eslahlished a |iearl lisluiy in im area ol the Indian ()ce;in (KID milc^ wul,. And *) complete is tlic as!«um|>lioii ol power that, aeeordinj; to Sir (iii)rr;e I5adeii-|'(i\vi.||, H liceiUT-(eo is cidlcel<'il Ironi the xessels (Miu;iit;ed in the pearl lisheries in the open nciaii. 'I'he MttMMtcd power i;iii's to the extent of niiiKin^ loniun vessels that have proeiiicil ilnn' pearU I'nr outside the •'^•mili* limit pay a heavy lax when the vc'^sels enter an Aiisiiiiliiin port to land caruoes and relit. 'I'Ims the loreinn vessel is hedned in on linlh sides, umi j., l)onnd to pay the tax under Hritish law, heeimse, ns Sir (leon-e haden-l'owell iiilimiiles, tm. voynifc to Hiiollier port would proliahly he more expensive than the tax. I ipiote rurtljci' from Sii (Jeor(;e to show the extent to whieh Hiiti.sli assuniptioii of power over the Oc.iin hi8 gone :— "The rijjht to charge these diu's and to exi'reise this conlrol dutxiilf thr 'A-milr Ihmi is hased on an Act ol the i-Vdcral roniu'il of .\ii»tralasiu, which (rcderal ("oiineil Aei, Inh;,, see. 1.')) etuielH that the Conneil shall have legislative ant lioi ii y, ih^t iiZ/k, in < r.v/icc/ /„ Jishrrirs in Aimtralitiii wains oiinldr trrrilonnl limils. In ISSl) this (^oiineil passed nu ,\,.| to ' regulate the pearl-shell and ln'rhe-ilr-mrr tisheries in .Xnstralian waters adjaeeni in ihc Colony of Western .\iistialia.' In KSSS a similar Act l;ad heen passed, (Iculini; willi tin tisheries in the seas udjacent to Queensland (on tliu east coast)." I Rm directed hy the President to say that, on hehalf of the United Slates, he is willing to ado|)t the text nsi'd in the Act of Parliament, to excl.ide ships from Imvciiii;' nearer to the Island of St. Ileleiin than H marine leanues, or he will take the exaiii|i|( cited hy Sir (ieori;c Haden-Powcll, wlieiv, hy permissien ol Her Majesty's ({overiiincul control over n part of the ocean (it)0 miles wide is to-day mil lunizwl hy Australian law The President will ask the (lovernmcnt of (Jrcat Mrilain to iij;reo to flic dislniicc di t?t) marine Icasiues — within which no ship shall hover aionnd the Islands of i*^' ''mil ami St. Oeorge, from the l.')lh May to the Iflth Octoher of each year. This will pro lieelivc mode of preservinir the seal lisheries for the use of the civilized world — a m Vli, in view of Great Hritnin's assumption of power over the ojien ocean, she cannot will: consistency deeline (iieat Britain prescrihed 8 leagues at St. Helena; hut the ohvjmis necessities in the Hehriim's Sen will, on the hasis of this precedent, justify '20 leaifues lor the protection of the American seal lisheries. The United States desires only such control over a limited extent of the waters in ilic Mehring's Sea, for a part of each year, ns will he suHieient to insure the jirotection of tin' fur-seal tisheries, already injured, possibly, to an irreparahle extent hy the intrusion dI Canadian vessels, snilinu; with the encouragement of Great Britain nnd protected hy iici tin);. The gravest wrong is committed when (as in many instances is the case) .\ineriean citizens, refusing ohedienee to the laws of their own country, have gone into partneislii|) with the Hritish flag and engaged in the destruction of the seal tisheries which heloni; td the United States. So general, so notorious, nnd so shamelessly avowed has this praitiiv become thnt last season, according to the Report ot the American Consul at Victoria, when the intruders assembled at Ounalaska on the 4th July, previous to entering Behriiiij's Sen, the day was celebrated in n patriotic and spirited manner by the American citizxiis. who, at the time, were protected by the Hritish ting in their violation of the liiws of their own country. With such agencies ns these, devised by the Dominion of Canada and protected by the ling of Great Britain, American rights and interests have, within the past four years, been damaged to the extent of millions of dollars, with no corresponding gain to those whu caused the loss. From 1870 to ISOO the senl fisheries — carefully guarded and preserved— yielded 100,000 skins each year. The Canadian intrusions began in 1886, and so gieiit has been the damage resulting from their destruction of seal life in the open sea surrounding: the Pribyloff Islands, that in 1890 the Government of the United States limited the Alaska Company to CO.OOO seals. But the Company was able to" secure only 21,000 seiil:^. Under the same evil intlucnces that have been active now for five seasons the seal lisheries will soon be utterly destroyed, tirent Hiitain has been informed, advised, warned over and over again, of the evil elfects that would flow from her course of action ; but, against testimony that amounts to demonstration, she has preferred to abide by personal repre. r,r, .)iH from Oltiiwit, liy l(<'|ii)i'tit of (^ontiiiiNHiniirrH who cxnininrtl nntliiiip, mid lu-iiid uiitliiiit:, «'X(('|)I the Irsiiniony oC iIiohc nipmcd in llu- luisiiii us imniiist wliich llic Uriilnl Sliilio hii^ nuiifNlly iirnli'^lcd. She iiiny |pi,n.*il>ly lie coiiviiiciMl (d llic dniniiKo if alic will Mini III! iiili'lli^i'iit ('iiriiiiiiNsioiuM' tii tlic I'lilivlidl Isliiiids. Iiimiund iiiiswir to idl tiiiKc liulN, (Jiciit llritiiiii uiiiioiiiiccn lliiit she is willing to Mtllt' lilt' di!i|iut(' liy iiiliilnilioii. Hit pioixmiiion in coiiluiiicd in tliu following.' |iiitKgru|ib, aIiIi'Ii I i|Uot(> ill foil ; •' I liiivf lo ninicHf tlial you will fommniiicatc ii copy ot thin dftipiilcii, iind of its iiiiliwuit's, 1(1 Mr. Itliiiiic. You will Hiatc timt Her Mnii'Nty'n Ciovcriiiiu'iit Imvf lui d<'*ire wliflrvcr lo itliijtc to tlic Unitrd Htiitis any jurisdiction in UcliriuKK Scii wliicli wn«i (iHU'cdi (I liy (ii'cat llrilaui to KuNsia, and wliicli |iro|i('rlv nccruj's to tlic prcucnt pimscnnorfi III Alaska in virtue of 'rrciilics or the law of nalioun ; nnd tluit, if the Diiitcd Si tt-s' (ioviinnicnt, after cNundiiution ol the evidence and aruun\euts which I have |)ro(luc<'(l, siill ildler Iront them as to the h'«ality of the recent caplurcs in thai mh, thcv lire ready to ii^ire that the ijucKlion, with the issues tiiat de|icnd upon it, hIiouIcI la* rclcrred to impartial iiiiiitralion. You wdl in that case he authoritcd to coPHidcr, in concert with Mr. Hluinc, llif nulhod of proccdmc to ho followed. " In his annual Mt'Rsu;;c, scn^ to Conj,'rcHS on the Ist of the present month, the i'ri'sident, speaking,' in relation to the lk>hrini;'H Scu (picjition, said : — "The oder to sniinut the (|uestion to arhitration, as pro|)osed hy Her Majpnty's (iovermnent, has not hcin accepted, for the reason that tlic form of suhiiuHKion nroposcd in not thought to he ciilculaled to aHnure ii oonclusion mitisliu-tory to either |iarty.' In the jiidKincnt of the President, nothing ol importance woidd he settled hy proving llmt (ileal Itntain coiK'cdcd no jurisdiction to Russia over the seal fisheries of tho Hi'lniiitf's S(';i. It mif^hf as well he proved that Uussia conceded no jurisdiction to Kiigland over the Hiver 'riiamcs. My doing nothing in each case cvcrytliiiig is conceded. In ni'ithcr cast; is anything asked of the other "Concession," as used here, means simply aniiiif.in'nri' in the rii;hlfulness of the title, and that is the only form of conccssioii which Russia asked of (ireat Urifain. or which (ireat llritain gave to itussia. I'lie second otlcr of Lord Salishury to aihitrate atnouni simply to n ("uhmission of the (|ii('stion whether any country has a right to extend its jurisdiction more than one marine Itftfjne from the shore? No one disputes that, as a rule; hut the tpicstion is whether tlarc may not he exceptions whose i-nforccment does not interfere! with those hiiihways of (■(laniicicc which the necessities and usage of the world have marked out. (ircat Britain, wluii she desired an exception, did not stop to consider or regard tlu; inconvenience to which the tommcicial world might he suhjcctcd. Her exception placed an ohstacle in the lii({liv\ay hetwecn continents. The United Stales, in protecting the seal fisheries, will not interfere with a single sail of comnwrcc on any sea of the glohe. It will mean something tangihic, in flw President'^ opinion, if (ireat Hrifairi will consent to nrhitratc the real (piestioiis which have heen under discussion hetwcen the two (iovermnents for the last four years. I shall endeavour to state what, in the jud);mcnt of the President, those issues arc: — I. What exclusive jurisdiction in the sea now known as the Bchring's Sea, and what exclusive lights in the seal fisheries therein, did Russia assert and exercise prior and up to time of the cession of Alaska to the United States? 'J. How far were these claims of jurisdiction as to the seal fisheries recognized and conceded hy (Ireat Ihitain? M. Was the hody of water now known as the Bchring's Sea included in the phrase "Pacific Ocean," as used in the Treaty of 1825 hetwcen (Jreat Britain and Russia; and what riglits (if any) in the Bchring's Sea were given or conceded to Great Britain by the snid Treaty ? 4. Did not all the rights of Russia as to jurisdiction, and as to the seal fisheries in Bchring's Sea cast of the water houndary, in the Treaty hetwcen the United States and Russia of the .'iOth March, 1807, pass unimpaired to the United States under that Treaty ? ;■). What are now the rights of the United States ,18 to the fur-seal fisheries in the waters of the liehring's Sea outside of the ordinary territorial limits, whether such rights prow out of the cession hy Russia of any special rights or jurisdiction held by her in such fisheries or in the waters of Bchring's Sea, or out of the ownership of the breeding islanils and the habits of the seals in resorting thither and rearing thifir young thereon and going out from the i. laiids for food, or out of any other fact or incident connected with the relation of those seal iisheries to the territorial possessions of the United States ! ^ i lil'^i ^ (0 I po«iHim \\\\\\ ll\i< ci'iiniir.m'O nl lin'iil Hnlnin U mci'i'iiiv in |tii"M'iiliiM!f lli'!ti|i|iiiuiin inr ll\i' liillinn ol ilm iin-i(':tl \ii inn j'lnl nl ll;i' Wiilni nl )lclniiiu''> '^'"I'l ll'i'n It «liiil| |i|< • nill»«>i ill \<"inini'il ■ (\) How Im, i( id mII. onNiilc (In' nnlnMnv Iniiitniiiil hiniu ji j, «r(i'«'»in\ tl«i»t [\\v I'nilril Sind'^ ^l\^MlM i \>'H'(i>n iin I'*' hi«i»'i> jniiiilii'linn In nnlit |,, |(i(»ln'( ,;\(> scmI iW tln> lime livinn npon lln' i-<lnn.lM nl' llu- I'nilinl MlninM mnl I'l'iMlih); ilinti. J\-(\M« '' y>\ \\ lii'iln-i n ilnsoil si'iimm ^ilmim; wliifli tlir killin« nl mcmIm in ||ii> wnlcmnr Urlninti'M SiM nnl«iilo (l\c iMilinin\ h'liidniiil limit < -iliiill In' |niiliiltil''il) ix niM'i'«qin\ In qmii ll»c t,>n| (iMl\ii\.' nuliixliv, >•«< vi\liml>li' ,inil iin|n>rltn\l Ik niiniliiml. (\nin ili-Ici inriniiiii tir (IcKiinclidn " And, il »n, [;\) Vlmt n\i'nllii of iMnl" nl nn>nlli« olinnlil In- inrlmli'il in >«n>'li «.nH,>n, innl n-, cc \\l(»t wnlci'* it «lnniM cxtoinl > \'h\' i>>p«'inoil n<>«n(ii«its timl lln> <M»vt>i'inn<'nl ol lln- I'nili-il N(i\l(<« ilcniinnlo 'imi Hki Ui-lninu.'x >o,\ l>r |>n>i\o\nu'' d >»<Vf n'rUivinM \\\v willinnl (tnnnluliun. I'lii- < lininininil lin* nr\«M I'linnii d II \nd n\'\i'r iliwiiod il It i^|Mr'!'<lv di'^imnvi it At lln> uiniir liim. Uw V\\\\v\\ S(,ni>« dnoo not l.n'K nl>nndin\l inillioi il \ . ini'inilinM. (n tlin iddcil l'^|lllnl'lll^ nl n\t<ini>lionid l,n\. t'lM- Inddnni n small itH'tinn o( ttir Mrlninu''" K"M lin |l\i' |Miili'i'linii nl tl\\' t'm'-M\ds rin\tioll\nu u ((Mnnmulivolv i\"«l'.ivt' d innii nl wiili'i- lof limi nnc mn'cilli' |>ni|>i»«o ■.« I>\ no mi'ini" tin' ri|ni\;»li'nt ol ilciLnin-i tlii- mch, nl ini\ ninl llii'it'nl, Mi,Mr i'/fU,vw»M. \i'.\n !i 1\ !in\ nnin\« «n k. lioiw ini nli«irni>|ion im Uii'mI Miititin iimnnii il in nirtlw' n\ tlio Sonili Vtlinii, , noi i** s'loini'lli'^'* .m intcill' nnro witli tin' nnnmiin !»« nl |||i> <n^\ ;w i« \n!nnl;in\;'>l In Hun 'i nnilioiilN todiw in llic Inimn Oimiiii. 'I'lii' I'lnnidi'iil ilni'« n\>», l\<i\\t'\oi', d(«n(' lln' i. • . |'>>'»t|>nni>\<\onl wlinli ;nt nMinnniilinn of li'i'.nl inilliniiijr* <\>M\i I'lpiiin !•< ri\illinn<i>' iind Koi'i would \n\oiM', lie lindx lii« own vii'\^^ well i'\|'i\"<>i\'il l<\ M' . riu'lpx, \'nv l;\ti' Mininlor to I'nnl'nid, wlii'ii. iillt'r I'liilinn to m'niiii' ii limi nn'!\na>'niv'n( v\ut> t!i\in Ununn toniliinjl tl\o >cid li^lK'ni's, lir vmoIc iIio lollouinii in his v'lv'"'ins; (>Mninniii> ,n\\'n i>< l\is \>\m\ tio\«>i nnnni, I'Mli Si'|>li'nd'i'i-, IM"^': '* Mvu II lo.'ivmiiii 111*" l'>'''n r\|'i'ndid n|'Oii 'In- diuiMi'jaion ol llic nl'slinol i|i;,>'ilii'ii nl' tll»" lisilil I'l »N(itr «"/<-.w,vn''i, I \|n in'l >oiv..i\.' il 111 l<i' il|i|i|li'(llili' (ii till' pii"»i'nl I'linr. ■ U«i>' Is 11 x.diiiiMo li'*ln'i\. i>n»l i\ liii;.io iind. il |nii|iril\ nnunincd, |n'iiniiiu>nl in\iiisn\, i' |MM|'iit\ ol ilu' ii.iiioi.s on wIioho slniics it i« omiird on. Il im |)in|in«i'il liy »Ih' V\'lon\ vii i\ (iMOiiin iiiUion. in dili.inn' o\' tlio joint ii';non'<irMni r ol nil llio coiiiiiiii'M inUM\>si'Ni. (■.! liostiox \\wi l>nHii\i'.s \\\ ilio nnlwriinnnuh' s!;nio,lil('i and nxtoninniilioii nl tl»o i\ un\>ii« m »)ni'-iion. 'i ilio oncn lunililinniinn si'ii, diiiinu tlin jn'iioil nl m'Mliiiinn, whon tlio ^^v\\mvM\ div-uilr'i oi inmiinilv on>jl\l to pioli'i'i tlii'in, wcit' tlii'in no inliivHi n\ tM \\\\^\\\\si. And u IS !ni>is.o'(oii tliMi wi- nil- |iii'\rnn'd lioin di'ii'iiding oniiolvi's iii{iiiiiit enoh ({< |^r^\i^»^i\^n<> lioo,ni>.»' lln- Mil iit ii i.-iunii ilmiaiii'i' tioiii llic t'o;isl m lii'i'. " I'iu- Ninii- Inu" o( iiij.niwv'iil would t Ki' nndoi it'* urolrclion |inii('\ iiiiiMlir Mjnvi' Vc^do wl-.v-n j>i\>MViiu\i m ilio open mm. oi woiiM jii'^lilv otu^ luilion in d('«lroyiii", i\\v o.vunu'iw o; ;>i;otlu^i l>\ j'i,>*'in<' danirvrons oli'-i nut ions nnd diirlicis in tin- oju'ii sen lu'iir it* ^NVNSts. Thoix> flio "Wrtiu things tint oaniiol l-o allowi'd to hr doin' on (ln> ojicii sen <\ith unjnuiitN. «r.d ak^anist whii'li oxoiv voa is i>i.!)c r/.iKMoit , and tin- luiln ol wi'ir-dcl'riuc »s to |vr>\Mi .uui p(\'|vriv jMTvails tlion' as tnilv as rlscwln'ic. Il the (IhIi ii|ii>ii ilic V^«im.'ij»;i v\v»«ts v\>uKi Iv vli >:ti\>\i'd In soattiiins; poisnii in tlio o|i. sea adiac'iil willi s.MMO !>in»li )>i\Mit to thv>!io onmivswl \\\ it. w>wild (.'aiiada. npon tlio jiift |Mini'i|ilrs nl intom.i»ionj«l l^«u. Iv lifid vU'toiuvloss m siuli a oasi' ': Vit tliitt proc'sN would In- no mmv ilevussOtivo, inliuni8U. and wanton than tliis. "It jMwodonts aiv wantins; li'r a »lct't'iu>»' so nooi'ssarv inid so |iro|i('i'. il is Ih'cium' ptxvovionts lor siuh a >vui>o ol i\'ndn»t aii- lik'.'wiso iiidviiown. Tlio lust iiiln'n-ili')iiiil Ua h,<s .-^nstMi tV.vu prvwsionts tli.'Xl have bcon cstalilisliod wln-n tlio jiiMt owa»'ioii lor lliciu Ai\\<i*-. uiuiotcnwi by the oiscusMon ot" abstract »u»d inaiiciimUo iiiU'c ' I have, &('. i%m'd) .lAMKS C. ni.AINH, liH'liixMcn (A), f'liiM'CM'""** hvhfi'Vit III!' t'liilvil HIiih'H mill tUmnlil ii'hilh'i' In Niiviiiiillnii, Mnliini/, unit 'I'litihlliJ ill lllv f'llrillr Oiriiii. iiilil In hl'ilnlili^ihliiriihi nil llii Ninth tVrul Cnilil. I'liiiiliiili'il liiitil 17, Ix'/ll linlilliiilinnn I'irliiinyril III WimliiiHiInn, Jiiniinni II, iMijr*; Viniluimi'il >)iin\iiiiii \'?, \>'IU. In Ihi' NitiiM' ifl' til" ^\n•\ IImIv iiimI Iii>II«I«II>I» 'I'lliilly. Tlll'i l'n'«lilt>ii(. dl'lln" lliilli'il HliiltM (i( AiiMili iifl IliM Mmm'mIv Uic Ki(i|>»>ror of All llii> IIihhIiin, wlnliintr In i'iiim'hI IIic liim.'u nl ntiiily wlii( li iiinli' llifrn, iiinl Id Hiciird ln'IniM'M Ihi'iM till' liivmiiilili' iiiiiinli'iiiMMi' nl' ii |ii'iiril cniirniil, liv iiD'iiiiM nl Itin \iri'mii\, CiinvniliiiM, liiiv nniiH'il im llii'ii l'l)'iii|Mili'Mliniii'q In IIiIm fll'i'il, In wil ' Tlic I'lcniili'lil nl llitt lliiiliil NliilcM nl AiiU'licH, lit MI'V Midtlli Inn. ii lili/fii nl «niil Sliili'ti, tiiiil llit'li I'liivnv I' tilitiniiliiiiii V mill Miii'mti'i l'li-ni|inli'liliiirv ot'tii 'li** fi(t|if'i'iiil \|ii|i'alv; itiiil lll'< Miiji'olv llii< Imiijii inr nl' All llii' Miinuiiia, llitt iifliivil iiiifl riiitliriil rliiilji'i llnlii'll, I'niilil nl' Nt"<«fliiii|c, Ailliiil I'livy < 'niintii'llnr, Mi'inln'r nl' llic rniiliiil nf Sinit', Sii'ii'liii V III Sliilf iliii I'liiin tlit'iiiliiiiiiiMliiilinii nl' rnri'i«ii All'iiim, A' I mil ( 'liiii(it»tiliiii(, Knl)tlil nl tlif Oitlt'i III Kl. AlfKimtlii Ncvsky, (lifiiiil Crimt nl llm Ocdii nl' Ml,. Wliiilitiiir 111 I III' llitl iltit»«, Kiil|>li( III' I lull III' llin Wliili' Iv'i/lit III' I'liliiiitl, 'Jntitd ( inuM nl' tlif Onlnr III Hi, HIi'|iIii'II nl' I liiti|>iii'v, Knlpjil nl' Ihn Onlim nl' lln' I Inly Olinql iiitil Hi. Miiliiti'l, ntitl lllilllil (inuM nl llii< liifiinli nl llntliilll' nl I'liiliii', Kliinlil Ultllnl ' 'rn^^ nl llin Oitlfm nT Ult IHiii'lt (Hill III' lilt' Mt'il Mh(;Ii' nl i'tii««iii, nl llii> Aittiiitii'iiil inn nl' Wiiiijltiiii, {i\' flmtlfq III «if >|iiiiii. Ill SI. I'Vi'iliiiiiiiil tiitil nl'iVli'iil nl Nit|i|i'M, nl llir l'"/li jilmiil nl niiiitinik, iif tlii' I'tdnr Sliii' 111' Stvt'ili'ii. Ill ||ii< Cir VII III WHiltiitlitiK, III' III!' <itii'l|ilm nl' lliuinvir, td Hit- l!»'l«i»! l.iiHi, III I'idtdilv nl' lliiili'M, niitl nf Kl. ('nimltiiiliiif nl I'miiiti; iiiitl I'ifrif dn I'ldidjfii, /\iliiiii ''niiiiMidlnf III Sitilf, Kiiiiflil nl' llii^ Oitlt'f nl'KI. Attn'' u\ llif liiil iltm«, iind Orttrid Ci" . "I'lltf Olilrf nl'Sl. Wliiditltil III' lilt' Hi'inllil ; Willi, nrii'i Ittiviiiii I'xi'liiiiiiMil III. If Ifill |inwi'in, fniiiid in ^nt/d and iliin iiuriu, Itcvt) I njiiTi'il ii|iiiii iiiitl nIkiii'iI ||ii> Inilnvvitt^; nU|iiiliitifiiiH : Aicnci.K I. il i'> iip.h'fil lliiil. ill ttnv |iiiil III llii' (Jii'iil Ocfiiti, intntiintily tttllfd Ihc I'lKiDc Ori^tift urSiiiilli 'I'll, llii' tt'M|it'i'(ivt' t'ilJ/iMii tif Riilijrf'lH nl' till- MikIi ('nfilr(it;rri;< l'n*«Ta ^ludl Ix; iii'illiri- ili-iiiilii'il lint' ii'Hliiiiiii'd, cillii'f ill tiovii^itf inn nf in lixliitiK, nr in tlif poAtir f»f iri^iiiliii}; In liii' riiiiMlM, it|iiiii |iniiiln wliiili niiiv iinl idri'iidv imvii liifii n(fit(»ifvl fnr flio |iiM'{iiiui' nl' lllltlln^ Willi lilt' niilivi'ti, tiiviii^< iilwiiyi* tJtn fiiR'ric.t.innn find r^nntlititintt 'Hi'iiiiiiu'il liy the rtillnwiitg Arlirli-s. IM I!. ni.AINE. AHTICIJO II. Will; ;i vi(<\v id" |ifi'vi'nliit|.', Ilif ri|?,lilM id tiiivi|^iilinti mid nf TmliitK^ t-xiTfiwi'd ti(;nti Uit; (iiriil Oci'iin liy till' cid/i'lin iiliil milijfflM nl Ilif Iiinli ( 'nliliiieliiiK I'nwfrt Itnin l)f(:orriiri(/ llii'pnd'Hl I'lif mi iil'il linili', il \<\ it(',fi'i'd Hint tlir .-ili/.t'tm <d' the IJnilcd .Shitt!^ tdndl nnl rr»iirl, In miy |iniiil wlit'ti" llii'i'f \* it l(itH«iiiti t'Mliii)ri!tliiti''iit v.itliiiiit, flit; (ii:rini«>iit)ri nf llu' (invt'iiiiir nr I 'ninniiiiiilrr ; Mini llnil, ffii|»f(itiilly, Un; wtdijft ft of M.ii».«i(i «lnill not ri»ii|l, williimt |M'fiiiiNHi(in, In iiiiv t'HtiiltliHlittunl id' tlif Unitid Kt,ttt<'H upon tin; nortli- ivi'Kl riiiml. AKTICLI'. III. Il Ih nioriiovcr uni'wil tlml, liiTfiiHi f, Ihtrc nlmil not li fornnil liy Hifi f;iti/t;r»'« of the I'nili'd Sinlt'K, III' iinilcr lite iinlliDiily nf Ilif hhuI Slut •<, ;iiiy fHttildnliinffit ii()Ori tlifi iiurlii-wcsl cdiiHt (il Aiiti'iifii, nnf in unv nf tin iiliiiidH nrljtifcnl, to the ntjrth of .M' If)' "Inoiiii liiiiliitlo ; niiil Ihiit, in Mif miiiiii! iniiiiiiiT, thiiro ^IihI! hi; nonf formed hy KuH^ian siihJL'cts, Of under Ilif iiuflittfity of HimKia, Hontli of the ttiinto (mrnllcl. AKTICLK IV. It is, lU'VfiliiflfSR, uniii'i'Hloiid lliat diifin^ n term of ten years, counting from the signature of Hit! |iiT,si'nt ('ntivetitioii, the ships of hotb I'owi;rH, or which heiont^ to their I fiti/oiis or HuhjtH'tH resiicetively, miiy reeipi-o'iiilly freijiient, without .my hindrance I whatever, tlif iiiturior huuh, guilt), ImrhouiH, luid jrt.-eks upon the coast mentiotied irj the m * Trnnilatiun from llie original, ttrliioh ii in the French Ungiuig*. t I |i ¥ 58 preceding Article, for the purpose of fisiiing and trading witli tlie natives of the country. AllTiCLI-: V. All spirituous liquors, fire-arms, other arms, powdcM-, aiul munitions of war of evorv kind arc always cxceptc-d from tliis same; commerce pcrmiltcd by tiie prcceiiii);j; Anicle. and the two Powers em:a_u;e, reeiprocally, ncitlicr to sell nor suffer them to he sold to the natives by their respective citizens and subjects, nor by any person who mny hi; under their authority. It is likewise sdpuliited that this restrietion snail never afl'ord a pretext nor be advanced in any case to authorize either search or detention of the vessels, seizure of the merchandize, or, inline, any measures of constraint whatever towards the merchants or the crews who may carry oii this connnerce; the llij!;h Contraetin]u: Powers reciprocallv reserving to themselves to determine upon the penalties to be incurred, and to indict the punisiuiicnts in case of the contravention of this Article by their respective eiiizensor eubjeettt. ARTICLIi VI. When tills Convention shall h-ive liecn di)|y ratified by the President of the United States, with the advice and consent ')f the Senate on tiie "lie part, and on the other by Hi* Majesty the Eniperor of All the Russias, the ratiticatioiis shall be exchan''eil at Wasliiii!<t(m in the space often months from tiic date iielow, or sooner if possible. In faith whereof the respective Plenipotentiaries have signed this Convention, ami thereto affixed the seals of their arms. Done at St. PetersburiJth ihe.'ith (17tl)) April, of the year of Grape one thousand eight Juindred and twentv four. (Seal.) UKNiiy illUDI.jCrQN. (Seal.) Le Comte Clj/VULliS OK NKSS.'W.UOiJt. (Seal.) PIHliKK |)E J'OLia'iCA. Convention hclircen Great Britain and Husnia. — Snjncdat St. I'l-.'cr.lninjii, I'dtniani 1G(L'-1, \S'25; Presented to Parliament May If,, 'H2f}. Ill liic Nairn' of till" Most Holv and I'mliviiloil 'rii ty. His Majesty thp Jxingof the United Kingduiii of (jieat Urii lin and Ireland, and iii; Majesty the /imperor of All the Russias, being desirouj of drawing still closer tiie tiesni good understanding and friendsliip wliieh unite lliem, by means of an Agrceineiit which may settle, upon the basis of reciprocal convenience, dillerenl ]K)iiits connected with Iho co'.imerce. navigation, ami fisheries of their su'ijeets on tiic Pacific Ocean, as well as tlio li?iiits of their respective possessions on the nortii-west coa^t of America, have naniKl Plenipotentiaries to conclude a Conv Milioii for this purpose, that is to say : His Majesty the King of the i'niled Kingdom of Great Hritain and Ireland, thi Right Honourable Stratford Canning, a Member of ] lis said ilajesty's Most Hoiiouiahlf Privy Council, &c. iTind His Majesty the Emperor of All the Russias, the Sieur Charles Robert, Count de Nesselrodc, His Imperial ^lajesty's Privy (councillor, a ileinber of the Council of the Empire, Secretary of State for the Departtnen'; ot Foreign Attiiirs, iSrc; and the Sieiir Pierre de Poletica, His lm])erial Majesty's C jiiiicillor of State, &e. ; Who, after having communicatea to each other their respective full powers, found in goou aad due form, have agreed upon and signed the following Articles : — ARTICLE I. It is agreed that the respective subjects of the High Contracting- Parties shall not he troubled or molested in any part of the ocean, commonly called the Pacific Ocean, eitheiin navigating the same, in fishing therein, or in landing at such parts of the coast as shall not have been already occupied, in order to trade with the natives, under the restrictions ii:;d conditions specified in the following Articles. ARTICLE II. In order to prevent the right of navigating and fishing exercised upon the ocean bv the subjects of the High Contructing Parties from becomiug the pretext for an illicit com- ttsam k; tliousmiil eidit liSS.'.LUOi)!:;. powers, found in m iiprcc, If ii^ (i-irptl tlifif flu' Rubjecfs of His Hlitatifiic Majesty shall not Ittfid at ttHJr |Jlilt'« wlit'ie iliii"'' "niy lu- a |{ti!siaii cstabli-liiiioiit, witliout tliu pertiiission of the Governor i)f ('oiii(niin<l'""t '• '""'' '■" '!'<-' otlier liaiiii, tliiit ilu<sian subjects tihall not land, without ln.'miis.-ioii, at iiiiy Ihitish istublii-hniciil on tlic north-west coast, ;; AIITICLE III. . ■ The line of (hiiiMrcalion liotwcon the possessions of thi; Hit>l! Contracting I'artics, upon till' coast of ihc continent and tli(! islands of America to the iiortli-vvest, slmll be (h'awu in the imini!('i' followinu; : — ConiMiencinu; from tiie soutiierninost point of tiie ishnid called Prince of Wales Island, wiiicii point lies in the parallel of .')4° 10' noitli latitude, and between the Mist and (lie l,'i-'M(l(le,!;reu()f west lonj^itude (ineiidian of {Jivenwieh), the said line shall aSceilfl to tile noitli aloii,u: the channel called Portland Channel, as (ar as the point of the confiilei\t whetc it strikes the ("itith dej^^ric of nortii hititnde; from this last-mentiotied point the line of ilcmareation shall follow the summit of the niouiitains sitnated parallel to the coast, as ftil- as the point of intersection of flic IMst dcfjrec of west longitude (of the same tnelldian) ; iiml, fiiiallv, from tf.c said jjoint of inteisectior., tlie said nicridiai' line of the 14 1st denree, ill its prolongation as fiii' as tiie Frozen Ocean, siiall form the limit between tiic Russian and British pi)ssessi')ns on the Continent of America to the nortli-west. ARTiCtE IV. With reference to the line of demarcation laid down in the preceditig Article, it iS understood : 1. Tliat the island called Prince of Wales Island shall belong wholly to lltissid. ;;. That wherever the summit of the mountains which extend in a direction parallel to the const, from the afjth djgree of north latitude to the point of intersection of the 1-llst (iej^ree of we>t longitiide, shall prove to be at the distance of more than 10 marine lea;;ues from the ocean, tf.e limit between the liritish possessions and the line of coast which is to belonu: to Russia, as above mentioned, shall he formed bj a line parallel to the wiiulinzK of the coast, and which shall never exceed the distaiicd of lO marine leagues therefrom. ARTICLE V. It is, tTldrcover, atreed that no establislnnent shall he form d by cither of the two Parties frithih the limits assigned by the two preceding Articles lo the possessions of the other; coilsequehtly. British subjects shall not form anv establishment either upon the coast or upon the border of the continent comp>riscd lin the limits of the Russian possessions, as designated in the two preceding Articles; .iit<l, m like rnannei', no establish- ment shall be foimed by Russian subjects beyond the said limits. ARtlCLE VJ. It is understood that the subjects of His Britannic Majesty, from whatever quarter they may arrive, whether from the ocean or from the interior of the continent, shall for ever enjoy the right of navigating freely, and without any hindrance whatever, all the river» and streattis uhlch, in their course towards the Pacific Ocean, may cross the line of (Icmarcatiou upon the line of coast desctibetl in Article III of the present Convention. ARTICLE VII. It Is also understood that, for the space often years from the signature of the pre»iriu Convention, the vessels of the two Powers, or those belonging to their respective sulv . is, shall mutually be at liberty to frequent, without any hindrance whatever, all the inland seas, the gulfs, liavpns, and cteeks on the coast mentioned in Article III, for the purposes of fishing and of trading with the natives. ARTICLE Vlli. The por*^^ of Sitka, or Nox'o Archangelsk, shall be open to the commerce and vessels ol British subjects for the spaed of ten years from the date of the exchange of the ratiHta- tions of thd present Convention. In the event of an extension of this term of ten years [95] 18 Ml ^ 60 beinp granted to nny other Power, the like extension shall bo granted also to Great Britain. ARTICLii; IX. The above-mentioned liberty of coinmeKio shall not apply to the trade in spirituous liquors, in fire-arms, or other arms, gunpowjler, or other warlike stores; the HJKh Contracting Parties reciprocally eni<au:ing not to perniit the above-mentioned articlcH to be sold or delivered, in any manner whatevor, to the natives of the conntry, AliriCLE X. Every British or Russian vessel navi{!;ntinfj; fho I'.icitic Ocean, which may be compeileil by storms or by accident to take shelter in the pons of the respective Parties, shiill be at liberty to refit therein, to |)rovi(le itself with all necessary stores, and to put to sea iiniiin without paying any other than |)ort and lighthouse (luis, which shnll be the same as those paid by natinnal vessels. In case, however, t' ., master of sucli vessel should be under the necessity of disposing of a part of ills nierehandi/e in order to defray his expenses, lie sliall conform himself to the Regulations and Tarills ol the |ilaiT wiiere he may have landed. ARTICLE XI, In every case of complaint on account of an infraction of the Articles of the present Convention, the civil and militarv authorities of the High Contracting Parties, without previously acting or taking any ibreible incisure, shall make an exact and eireumstantial report of the matter to their respective Courts, who engage to settle the same in a frietidly manner, and according to the principles of justice. ARTICLE XII. The present Convention shall be ratified, and the ratifications shall be exchanged at London, within the space of six weeks, or sooner if pos^ .ble. In witness whereof the respective Plenipotentiaries have signed the same, and li we affixed thereto the seal of their arms. Done at St. Peteisburgb the IGth (28th) day of February, in the year of our i^cii One thousand eight hundrcil and twenty five. (L.S.) STRAJi'ORI) CANNING. (L.S.) The Count I)K NESSELRODE. (L.S.) PIERRE DE POLETICA. Inclosure (B). List of Maps, with Designation of Watrrs now known as the Behring's Sea, with Date and Place of Publication, [In tlioso Maps fho wntors soiitti of Holiiiiijt'« Sea mo vn Pnciliiliie, Stillos Mcer ; llic Great Ooiaii, Uramic Mer. (in)>su Mor (In Su(i. And tlii'V nve ajjuin furilicr ilivii] Vavtie du Nord de In Mrr du Siid. I'artir du Nm anoui-ly di'sii;nnti'(l ns tlic Pacific Occnii, Ocean Oeran ; the (iieat South Sea, firosse Sud Sec, and the noithern part deKi;'iiiilod ns North I'ncifie Occiin, hi Grande Mer, Grand Oeean Boreal, Ntirdlischer 'i'hed iKs Grossen Sud Mecrs, Niirdlischer Tlicil des Siili n Meers, Niirdllsche StiUe MeerR, fee. In nil the Maps, however, tlie Pacific Ocean, under one of these various titles, in desij;;nuted separate from the sen.] Name of Maps, &e. Name of Sen. I'liee of Publication. Date. Accurate Chnrte von Nord Amerikn, from Sea of Anndir . , . Unknown the best snurees Map nicde under direction of Mikhncl KamtschntskiBclies Meer , . St. Pntorsburgh Vii Gvosdi f, Survevor of the Shcstnkof Ex- pedition in 1730 Mapp^ inondc, by Lowitz . . . . Gecjiraphicnl Atlas of the Bussinn Empire, Mare Andiricum . . Berlin . . 174fi Kanitsehatktt or Beaver Sea St. Petersburgh 174S Alexander V'istchinine Carte dc I'Isle lic leso, coiTccted to date, McT de Knmtschntka Paris .. 1754 by Philippe Bunche, Academy of Sciences, »nd Geojfmpher to the King ■ ■: also to Great dc ill spirituous res; the lli^ii ;d articles to be ay bo compelled tics, sIimII be at ut to scii iii;iiin, c aaiiie as tJiose lid be uiuier the pciiscs, lie siiall lavc landed. s of the present rurtios, without d circumstantial 1110 ill a frieudly }p exchanged at same, and Irwc ear of our i.oai INING. SSELRODE. iTICA. , with Date and [icific Ocean, Ocinn I'll, firosse Slid Sec, Jortli I'ncific Oi'oun, [(irdliscliei- 'J'lii'il dcs III nil till" Maiis, ! SCft.] iun, Date. Unknown • I Vi-i • • 1740 • • 171S ■ • 1754 Nfttno of Maps, itc. Miillir'H Mnp of lli« l)iHci)vcrii'» by the ItuM»iiiii» on tlio Nortli-VVoKt Count of .Aiiu'ricn, prepnrod for thn Iniporiiil .Acnilciiiy of Seioiiccs jVAnviUu's Mnp of tlio WcHtcrn I'o'rni- •plllTC .Mniiol' IIriniHphi:ro Hcptuntrioii»l,1)y Count lloilll'in, published uy lloyal Aciideiny of ScicnccK Mnp published in the " London Miij{iizino " Mnp liy S. Uelliii, UnginctT of the Koyiil Acnilemy Nouvello IJiirto den Decouvcrtcs pnr leg VnissiMiux KiiHRen '"ix colon iueonniics (le rAnitrifpif Sei)tciitri..nalc; MUllor Jolfcry's Ainerieiin Atlns, prinled by It. Silvers iind J. Ileniictt jtonii Mnp from I'liris to Tobolsken llinvje's AtliiH ; .Mii]> of the World , . Mnp of the Kastern purl of thi! KiWBiun Territory, by J. 'I'riiscott Mnp iif the Now Nortliirn Arcbipclnn'i, in J, voii Stiiobliii Stiirek»lmrj{'s Account of (lie Norlbeni An;hi]iela(J!o, bitely dis- covered by ibo UiwiiuiD in the Sens of Kniiitseliiitka itnd ,\niiilir Snmiiel Diiiiii'h Map of North America Clint III' Uussian Discoveries from the Mnp pulilislii'd by tbo Iinperinl Academy of St. PiterHbiirgb (Robert Suycr, print- nellir), piibliNhed as the Act dircctK. Jotfery's Athis ; (;hnrt contnining part of Icy Son mid adjacent f .'unsts of Asia and Aiiierien; published in 177.'), according to Act of I'urliament, by Saycr and Bennett Jcu'iy's Alas; Chart of the Uussian Dis- ciiviMie^i, limn Mnp published by Iinperinl Aciiileiny of Sciences ; i)idilishod by Uoliert Snycr, March 2, 1775. Atlns, Thomiis Jeffery's (acogrnplier to KiiiK), Aiiiericiin; Chart conUiining the ('ousts of Cnlifornin, New Albion, oud the Uiissinn discoveries to the North Mn|i ill the l-'rcnch Kncyclopoodia . . Sclimiili's Atlas . • • • • • JcH'crv's Atlns • . • • • • r«rte'der Kntdekun gen Zwischen Siberia uud Aincrika to the year 1780 Map of the New Discoveries in the Eastern Ocenii St. I'etersburgb Alias . . . . . . linlbkuuel dor Krde, by Bodo . , . . Cluul of the North-West Const of America ami the Nortli-Knst Coast of Asia, pre- pared by Licutciinut Henry Roberts, under the immediate inspection of ('a|ilnin Cook; published by William Fallen Map of the Empire of Russia and Tartnry, by I'. L. Gulaefeld Mnp of Uisoovcries made by the Russians and by Captain Cook; Alexandre Vil- brcch Diinn'e .Stlas ; Mop of the World D'Aiiviile's Atlas ; Map of the World, with improvements ; prepared for J. Harrison, as the Act directs Mcaies' Voyages; Chart of North-West t'cast of America Cbri of the World, cxliibitini: all the now discove ries to the present time, with the tiaclB of the most distinguished navi- gators from the year 1700, carefully collected from the best Charts, Maps, Voyages, &c., extant, by A. Arrowsmith, Ocogropher, as the Act direv t» 01 Name of Sea. Sea of Kamtichatku Sea of Anadir , , Mor Dormant . . Plac« of Publication. St. Pctcrsburgh Poris ..r Berlin Dato. Sea of Kaiiitschntka , . { Iioiidon • . fi It . . I ,1 . . Mor du Knmt«ehiitka nnd I Amstcrdnm Mcr d'Anndir Sea of Knmtschutka and i London . . Sea of Anadir Sen of Knmtschntka . . I'uris . . Sea of Anadir .. .. Loiiilnii Mare Kamtnolmtkicnsne . . Soil of Kamtscliutka and Sen of Anadir Soa of Anadir . . Sea of Kiimtscliotka ..! „ .. » •• St. I'etorHlmigli London ., „ „ ..| Paris I, M ••! It "• „ „ ..I London Kamtschntkischo Meer . . ; . . Kamtschatka or Beaver Sea ' St. Pctcrsburgh Sea of Knmtschntka Kamtschatka Sea Sea of Knmtschntka . . London , , • • tt .. Berlin I Kaintsclintkiscli.- olcr Ribor Nnremburg Meer Sea of Knmtse'iuk I .. St. Peti'r.sbur;;h . . I London I • * It 17S8 1761 1763 1764 1766 1766 1768-72 1769 1770 1771 1774 1774 1775 1776 1776 1776 1777 1777 1778 1780 1781 1782 1783 1784 1786 1787 1788 1788 1790 1790 '! h m'\ '%' t tf s V i ■*1 '.■■ I if Nftp'o of Jliip, iic. 6*1 Jfiilnt ttt Si'ii. !in(l Asiii ■ .). Willi !'S. I,. lilli'-C'- Maii|i'iiuinili', ('hnrt of Iho tiiciit Occnii, or Soiitli Sen, couformiililo to t\w iipooimt of tliu viiyii);c< 111' (liscovory ol' thr Fioncli t'liniiics ■■ Lfi Huussdlc " mill " li'AsiroIiibc ; " l.ii IVrouso Kiirtc ilos Nonlt'iis voii Anu'iikii ; O. loisU'i' (jifciioujth's Ma|) III WilkiiiMiii'ii Atlus Mii|i iiC ilu' Xdith-lMisti'iii pint iif Silii'iiii, the Kiiizi'ii Sra, tlio Kasictii Oci-aii, ami Norlli-Wi'Htorii CoiislH of Aiiierica, iiidi- iMl'ii>{ Hilliiij^s' expedition Ariowsiiiitirs Map of the Worlil. . Cliaite von Aiiiorikii, !■'. I,, (iiil-efrld Atlas of Matliew < airy ; Mip of llie World fioiii the liest nuthnviiie<, and Map of Uiissinii Kinpire in E' Chart of N'nrtli Anierie "as Act direrts" ILdbkiiuel d.'i- Kide . . Chan vol! Noiil Ameiika, liv K fcid 0. F. Delnandie' . Alia by Koliert (In Vaiiijoiiily. iiiehidini; new liiscoveiies of Captain Cook Lit I'erouse's Ciiait of the (ileal Oeeaii, or South Sea.eonfornmMy to the di^e(lvelies of the I'reneh fri^'atis '■ l.a Honssole" iind •• L'Astrolalie,' ]ml)lislii'il in con- foriiiity with the Dceree of the l''rencli National Asseinbly, 1751 1, transltited and printed bv .1. Johnson W. Iteatliers Marine Atlas Greonoiigh's Atlus ; Map by Vibreelil eiititlcil '-('arte ile l.i Ci'ite "Xonl-Ouist do rAmeriipieSeptentrioimle,' andsliow- injt the discoveries of the Itiissiuns and I'ortlock and Diekson. AVilkinson's General Atlas; a new Merca- tor's Clinrt drawn from the lati'st (3is- coverioa Map of the World ; Gralierir . . . , Map Mug'azine, composed neeording to the latest ohservations of foreign navigators, correofed to 1802 Map of Sleer von Knnitschatka, with the routes of Captain Jos. lJillin;{s and .Mart. | Saner, drawn by Kred. Gotze, to aecoiu- ! pauv Hepoit of lldlinys' Kiissian Oftieial I Visit (o .Vleutia ami Alaska. I Atlas des Ganieii Krdkieises, by Christian > Gottlieb Hciehard Ari'O'.vsniith's General Atlas Mapof Savrilia SarytscLolfs journey in the j Nortli-Kast Sea I Jedediali Morse's Map of North Aincriea . . ! Robert Wilkinson's Gcneial Atlas ; new Mercatcr s Chiirt Atlas of the Hiissiau Knipire, adopted by tlio ' General Direetion of Sehools. (ieneial Map of the travels of Captain Golovnin Map in Carey's Atlas . . . . , , Lieutenant Roberts' Chart, improved to date Mappemonde in Atlns of Malte-Brun .. Dunn's Atlas. . . . , , . , Knrte des Grossen Oceiius, usually the South Sea ; !Sot/.inuiin (^hart von Anierikn ; Streits Arrowsmith's Map of North America .. Maj) of the World in Pinkerton's Atlas . , Map by L ipie . . . . . , " Carte d'/Vinel-ique, i edigec <rapr6s eelle d' Arrow smith, en quatre planches ct sou- misc aux observations ustronomiqueH de M. de Humboldt ; " by Cbamjiioii Sea of Kamtschatlcti Kainlschiitku Sea Sea of KaintseliHtka Kanitseliatka Sen Sea of l<aiiil>eh:ilka Kamtselialkisilies Meer Sea ol K:-.nitsclKlika Kiiinlsehalka Sia kanitschatkisclus ^feer fJea'of Kahit*e!i:itki Mer de Kaintseliatka Sea of Kaintsehatka llacino di lleluing , , Heaver Sea or Sei of ICaitlt- sehatka Meer vOn Ka itHdiativa .. Meer von Kamtscliatka Sea of Kiinitseliatkii Kanit'^chalka or Heavm Sen Kamtsehatka Sen , , Sea of Kamtsehatka Dassin de liehrini; Sea of Kamtsehatka KumtEclialkisclies Meer . . Sea of Kamtsehatka ., Bassiii du Notd Uassin de Uehving riacc of PubDeatloti. Paris lU-rliu . . t.ondon . . St. Petorsldirgh r.ondon ., Xnnilierft .. Phlladeltihia London .. Nuriinberg Niiriiberg ,, Paris .. London f^dintmrgli,. Loiidoti . . Oeitcvn St. Petersl)llr^'lt Weill London .. l.eipslc .. Host on .. London .. St. Peleisbmgh Ltindon Paris Lotidoti Hamburg , . Wcimnr . . London . , Pnrifi Dat? l"ni 1791 17!) I 1791 171)1 17(1(1 1 711(1 17!)() 171)7 1797 1797 1798 1791) 1800 1800 1803 1803 iSOll 1800 1804 , 1805 180;-) 1807 1807 1807-9 1808 18U8 1809 1810 1810 1810 1811 1812 I8U 18|:< \k Niimc of Mnp, &e. Miip of Oci'iiiiia. cir I'm" Kiltli I'.n-I of tlii' World, iiiolii(liii); ii portion of Aiiii'rivn 1111(1 till' ouust* of Aniii, liy II. Jlnic ^Vi'lc's ( fi'licriil Atli''* ■ f^iiiiiial and (.i('ov){i' 'Cliiirt vDii Anicrikii ; Oco^iriipliic' Ir.Klitiito Miiii cif ilic Willi I, oy Von Kni'«'iis(('rn .. l';ucyi)ro|iiviHMU'rAMirri(|iH' S'pU'nIrioiiilo, !))■ Ilru.:" Smilli's Ocnonil Atliis . . All'jiim'iiH'wilt ('Imrtc, witli Voyage of Krufi'iisterii (iruiiJ Atlas Univcr.'<el, oilitiMl by C'iici! JVsrny ; Mnppeinomle, by Oonjoii, (fco urnplii'V Alius l':ienientuirc, by Iinpic pt I'o'.rston . . .Vmiriip't' Sc'plcutjioiiali' ct Mrridionnio ; LiH)io Map m Tliomiwcm's Atlas , . Fii'liliiip l'"caN' .\tlas .. .. ., |ic)ciiii)-(i uiiil Von lIvl'iM-'s (jorniuM Alius.. Man in GrciMimigirH Atbis ,Iolm I'inliiMtoMs Miub'rn Atlas ,. ., Map injjiavcil bv Kirkwood and Sons ., Cliart of tlic Russian and Knjilish P!s- covorii."' in I lie Xnitli Pacific Ocian. by Ciiptain lanu's Ibirncy, I'MI.S. Ciiric (icM^'i'alc dc r,\nu'ii(|ii(' ; Dc I,n- iimrciic Caitc dc r.\nicri(iue Scptentriona!c ct Mcri- diutmlL' • llcni'. )ii. C'lmvt of .Maska. by .1. K. Kyiics and Maltc-Brun Cliiirt of tlic Arctic Ocean and Norlli .Vnicrica, by I,a|)ic Carle (ifncralc du (ilobc ; Ilrac . . . . Moppcmondc , 'I'ardieu Atlas of La Voijfno ; ^[. Carey . . Alias llnivcr.-cl of A. 11. Ibac .. Miippcmondc : Ibrisson Map to illustrate the N'oyniic of Kolzebne, . Fielding Imcas' Atlas . . I'lddins; lAicas' Atlas .. ., ,, AniirimiL' Si'ptcntrionnio; Lapic Atlas Cliissiipie ct Univer.-el. by M. I.apic. . Aiitlinny linley's .\tlas Atlas of Uticlioii ; Carles des l'os,si'tisiiMLS llusic.s Map ill Hutb r'd .\tlas . . Atlas Histori(iiio de la Siige 93 Name of Sea. linssin (III \ord. . Sea of Knintuclintka Mecr von KiiinNclmtka Ji;uj!"iii di( XofiJ. . Sea of KiinilscUalk i Bnssin dn Nord,. nassin dn Kord pii dc liebrinn Afer do Hebring ou liufiHin dn Nord Sen of Kamtiichiiti<ii .Mcr dp licbrinp; ou B issin dt> NorJ Bassiii fill NorJ. . . . iicbiinfj; Sea .. ,, Mer do Hi'lirini; Mer dc liclirinx. ■ Sen of K;iin».solmtktt Mer de lieluini; Mer dc lii'liiin;.; Se. «( Kanilscliatkn Mcr d(' licbrin;; Mcr dc Hi'brinp; on liassin (lu Nord Sea of Kaintsclintka liassin dn Nord. . Sea ■'!' Kamtselmtka Mer dc Hcliring . , Place of Piddicntion. Parii Tiondiin Weimar . . St. Polersl}iiii,''i Date. Ibl4 isil 1814 1815 Paris .. » • )816 . T.ondini . . 181,-. • »» • • • • lUlf) PiiriH . , »• J81.0, )> •• • • 1816 .t • • • • 1817 bMiiibiirKb. . • • 1817 iialiiipiif'c . . • f 1817 . Weimar J * 1H18 Kdinliin<;b. , . • 1818 Pliiladi'lpbia , , IHIH Kdinliur<{li'. . , , IHI'.I lioiidon , . • f 1819 Paris • • 1819 :• • • .. 1820 .. .. 1821 Weiiiiar . . • f 1821 Paris . . .. 1821 »» • • , , 1821 J'hiludelphiu , , 1821 Paris , , 1822 .» . . • • 1823 St. I'ctcrsbiir(5li , , 1823 Plnliiriclpliiu , , 1823 linltimore . . ,, 1823 Paris ■ • 1824 Paris .. 18'/4 Pliiludclpbiu 1824 Palis , . •■ 182.5 London 1825 Pnris •• 1829 I \.n 1; 4! * Tliis Cliart also dcsiy;iuitcs tlie const from Columbia Kiver (49 ) to Capo Elizabeth (60 ) as the " Nord- Wcst Kiiste." Inclosure (C). iiedion 4 of " An Act for regulutinij the Intercourse with the Island of St. Helena during the time Napoleon Bonaparte shall he detained there, and for indemnifying Persons in the cases therein mentioned (1 ]th April, 1816)." Section 4. And be it further enacted, that it siiall and may be lawful for the Governor, or, in his absence, the Deputy Governor, of the said Island of St. Helena, by all necessary ways and imans, to hinder and prevent any ship, vessel, or boat from re|)airinfj to, trading, or touchint; at said island, or having any communication with the same, and to hinder and prevent any person or persons from landing upon the said island from such ship, vessel, or boats, and to seize and detain all and every person and persons that shall land upon the said island from the same ; and all such ships, vessels, or boats (except as above excepted) m m ao shall repair to, or touch at, the said island, or shall be foiinfl liovcriiig witliin H Ioiikiich of the coast thereof', and vvliich shall or may belong, in the wliolo or in part, to any Hulijvct or subjects of His Majesty, or to any ])crHon or persons owing allegianeo to His MiijcHty, shall and arc hereby declared to be Jorleited to (lis Majesty, and sliall and may In- seizud and detained, and l)rou;:ht to England, and shall and nuiy be prosecuted to CHndetnimtion by His Majesty's Attorney-Ueneial, in any of His Majesty's Courts of Record at, WcHt- minster, in such manner and form as any ship, vessel, or boat may be seized, detained, or prosecuted for any breach or violation of the Navigation or Revenue Laws of this eountry; and the oU'ence for which sueii ship, vessel, or boat shall ho ])rocee(led against slnilj and may be laid and charged to have been done and committed in the County of Middlesex; and if any ship, vessel, or boat, imt belonging in the whole or in part to any person or persons the subject or subjects of, m owing allegiance to. His Majesty, his luirs niid successors, shall repair to, or trade or touch at, the said Island of St. Helena, or sliull he found hovcrihg within 8 leagues of the coast thereof, and shall not depart from the said island or the coast thereof when and so soon as the master or other jtersoii having tiio charge and command thereof shall be ordered so to do by the (Governor or Lieuteimnl. Governor of the said island for tlie time being, or by the Commander of His Majesty's imval or military force stationed at or off the said island for the time being (unless in ease of unavoidable necessity or distress of weather), such shij) or vessel shall be deemed forfeitd, and shall and may be seized and detained and prosecuted, in the same manner as is herein- before enacted as to ships, vessels, or boats of or belonging to any subject or subjects of His Majesty. No. 20 Messm. Lampson nnd Co. to Foreign Offive. — {Received December 30.) Sir, (54, Queen Street, London, December 30, 181)0. SINCE we addressed you on the Cth September last, the number of fur seal-skins taken in the Behring's Sea and landed at Victoria has increased to such an extent, that the total cateli, instead of being less, actually exceeds that of last year. This somewhat unexpected increase a|)pears to have been due, apart from the favourable weather, to the larger number of schooners engaged in the fisliery, and to the fact that the United States' Government Revenue-cutters did not in any way interfere with the tishing operations. We are informed that Professor Klliott, who has been commissioned by the United States' Government to examine into the condition of the Seal Islands, in the Report submitted to his Government speaks of the total extinction of seal life as being a (piestion of only a few years, and advocates-' that no more seals should be killed, even on the islands, for some time to come. We have had the honour to point out to you how important an industry, at present centred in London, depends on the continuance of the supply of fur seal-skins, and how many people, now engaged in this industry, would by its disappearance be thrown out of work. This industry appears now to be threatened by a new danger of an unexpected kind. From information received, we learn that the United States' Government, probably with the view of influencing the decision of Her Majesty's Government in the Behring's Sea fishery dispute, will propose to raise the duty on British numufactured fur seal-skins from 20 to 50 per cent, ad valorem. To estimate the importance of this measure, we should mention that, for many years past, of the Alaska fur seal-skins annually consigned to London, no less than lb per cent, have been bougiit for American account and reshipped to the United States after having been manufactured in London. Should the United StJites' Government carry out their proposal, the skins destined for American consumption would undoubtedly be manufactured in the United States, with the result that another important British industry would pass away to a foreign eountry. We confidently trust that Her Majesty's Government may see its way to protect these important British home interests, by arriving at a speedy settlement of tlic present dispute. We have, &c. (Signed) C. M. LAMPSON and Co, 65 No. 21. The Marquia of Salisburtj to Sir J. Pauncffote, Sir, Fnrciijn Officn, ppmnhnr 30, 1890. I MAVI'i ipccived joiir dcspntch of tlio Ifitli instnnt, reporting; that you lind h,in(led to Mr. Hluino a copy of my dt'H|)ate!i of tlio 22iid October lust in regard to my ((iiivcrHntioii witli Mr. I'hclps on tlio 22nd February, 1888, on the subject of the Bclirinj;'« Son controversy. I Imve to inform you that your language to Mr. BInine, when communicating to him tlic lirflputcli in (jucstion, is approved, I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 22. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received January 1, 1891.) Sir, Downimj Street, December 31, 1890. WITFT reference to your letter of tlie I.'HIj Septeml)er last, forwarding copy of a letter from Sir C. Lampson and Co.* respecting the probable early ext'netion of the seals in Bdiring's Sea, I am directed by Lord Kinitsfonl to transmit to you, for the information of tlic Marquis of »Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the (jovernor-General of Canada, t transmitting an approved Minute of the Doniinion Privy Council embodying a Report by llic Minister of Marine and Fisheries on the statements contained in Messrs. Lampson's letter. I nm to request that the inelosures to Lord Stanley's despatch, which arc sent in I original, may be returned, with a printed copy in the event of their being printed at the Foreign OHice. I am, &c. (Signed) R. U. MEADIi. Inclosure 1 in ^o. 22. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford, My Lord, Government House, Ottawa, November 28, 1890. WITH reference to the representations contained in the letter from Sir C. Lampson and Co. to the Foreign Office of the 6th September last, copy of which was inclosed in your Lordship's despatch of the 24th of that month, to the effect that there was liiteiiiiood of the early extinction of the fur-seal species unless a close season were at once established, I have the honour to forward to your Lordship a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council, embodying a Report by the Minister of Marine and Fisheries on the subject. Your Lordship will] observe that the Minister contends that there is no good reason for believing that the extinction of the species is likely to be brought about, furnishing statistics of the Canadian catch for the past season, and adducing evidence drawn from United States' sources in support of his contention. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. • No 6. L95] K ■f 68 Iiidosure 2 in No. 22. Jteport of a Committee of the Ilonoiirahh the Prii'i/ Cotincil, approved hy his Excellency the Governor-General In Council, on the I'tth November, 1890. THE Committee of the Privy Council have limi imder consideration a despatch dated the 24th September, 1890, from tiic Colonial Oflice, transmitting u copy of u letter from Sir C. M. Lampaon and Company to the Forciu;n Ollicc, under date the 6th September, 1890, on the subject of a close season for seals in IJelning's Sen. The Minister of Marine and Fisheries, to whom the papers were referred, submits the following observations thereon : — That Sir C. Lampson and Co. slate in oil'ect : 1. That the total extinction of the Inr-scai has come witliin measurable distance, and unless a close season ciin bo arranged immediately the animal will become extinct in a very short time. 2. Ti)at as the seals taken by the Canadian schooners at sea are females and pups of those visiting the breeding islands, this industry will of necessity disappear with tiie extinction of the seal. 3. That the fur-seal fishery in Behring's Sea has been a failure this season, the total catch being far below those of preceding years, although the fishing-vessels do not appear to havo been molested by United States' Government eruizcrs. The Minister observes that statements similar to those contained in the paragraphs marked 1 and 2 above were made before the Committee of Congress in 1889, and repuuled in despatches of the Ciovernment of the United States to the British Government at difterent times since 188a. That at the recent Conference in Washington (1890) these allegations were formally reiterated in a paper prepared by Mr. Blaine, it having been understood at this time that the Minister of Marine and Fisheries would put before the Conference the authorities upoa which the Canadian Government denied their accuracy, so that the evidence on each side might be discussed, examined, and compared. The Minister of Marine and Fisheries accordingly prepared a Memorandum in which he, among other things, proved froai United States' authorities that the seals were still frequenting the islands in Behring's Sea in enormous numbers, and were actually on the increase. It was also shown that the seals taken by Canadian sealers in Behring's Sea were, for the most part, males. Appended to the present Report will bo found an extract from the Memorandum mentioned above containing references to authorities touching these points (marked Appendix " A "). The Minister deems it important to mention that, after those authorities were placed before the Conference, Mr. Blaine declined to proceed with the discussion of the two briefb. It was then proposed by the British Representative that a joint inquiry into the facts in controversy should be made by experts on the islands and in the sea, and that a temporary close season should be agreed upon for a period of two years and a-half. This proposition was also decHncd by the Government of the United States. Meanwhile, however, it appears that the Secretary of the Treasury of the United States appointed Henry W. Elliot a Spneial Agent to the Treasury to make an ex partt examination in regard to the Alaska fishery interests, under the provision of a special Act Congress, approved the 5th April, 1890. While the Minister has not enjoyed the advantage of perusing Mr. Elliot's special Report, nevertheless, from the press of the United States, and from the leading reviews published in that country, it is evident that the present lessees of the Pribylov group have not been less zealous than their predecessors in circulating alarming statements concerning the fur-seals. Mr. Elliot has perhaps again concluded that the rookeries are being ruined, and that his opinions given to Congress before this mission to the islands have been confirmed. In the "New York Herald" of the 16th August, 1890, a letter appeared purporting to emanate from D. H.James, of the United States' cutter " Rush," dated Ounalaska, the 26th July, in which that gentleman says : — " A startling state of affairs exists at the Seal Islands this year This year the rookeries are nlniost deserted, rocks that were once covered with seals are now being grown over with moss The cause assigned is that the sealing ffeel', which is now increased and composed of larger and better vessels, has follQwed the seals so clssety and pursued them so ruthlessly." k I quiry into the iea, and that a rs and a-half. 07 Thin writer adds : — "It ii thought tlie sealers will not catch enough to pay expenses." Before dealing with such sensational reports from those interested in the maintcntnoe monopoly of the fur-seal hiisiness, it i? well to note that from the first of tiie jussion to the present tinio not a suggestion has hccn made by the United States' ;horitie» that it would ho advisable to restrict the pursuit of the fur-seal on the ifornian and British Columbian coasts, where it is admitted that many seals in pup captured and killed before their final departure lor tiie breeding-grounds in iriog'i Sea. Though the ])roposition for a joint incjuiry into the condition of the Seal Islands was tertained by the United States, tlic statistics and rp|)ort8 from the vessels which ded from Uritish Colunibia are such as to load the Minister of Marine and Fisheries Ifcubt the accuracy of f J- /wr/e reports ref,'iirding the dimiiuition of seal life during the of 1800, and to which Messrs. Sir C. Lainpson and Co. draw special attention. The total catch by Canadian scalers fitted out in British Columbia in 18H!) amounted 90O. The catch so far reported by tiiese vessels in 1890 anjoiints to 39,547. The ol vessels and sold in British Colunibia was no less than 4,'i,315 skins. The catch the Siberian coast is reported to be larije. .ludging fiom recent years the catch will at Comniander Islands, 'ifi.OOO ; LoI)os Islands, 15,000 ; islands near Capo Horn South Polar Sea, 10,000; Seal Islands, Okhotsk Sea, 1,000 ; Japan, 7,000; Cape of Hope, 5,000. These statistics, while meeting the fears of all interested in the preservation of seal are undoubtedly alarming to the lessees of the Tribvlov group, who, relying upon iring 8 monopoly of the fur-seal industry of Behring's Sea, were induced to make itract with the United States' Government, whereby tliey agreed to pay the enormous unprecedented royalty of 10 dol. 25 e, on every seal taken i)y them, upon which their itcessors and unsuccessful tcndcicrs for the present lease gave only 2 dol. 62 J c. a-skin. conBcqucntly quite likely that these lessees cannot ailbrd with such a royalty to catch quota of 60,000 this year, and so a reduction of the number actually put upon market tends to increase the price of those skins sold. It may not be out of place in connection to make further reference to the energetic manner in which those istcd in the monopoly endeavour to excite alarm regarding the probable extinction of D. 0. Mills, of New York, is supposed to be the most largely interested of the iKDtiessees of the Seal Islands in Behring's Sea, He does not pretend to expert know unorto have visited the seal rookeries. An article w itton by him in the "North American liew" for September 18!)0 is remarkable for the loilovving extraordinary statements ed with seal life, and unsupported by any other authority than his signature: — "There is the best evidence that the poachers con.lne themselves almost exclusively jii! commercially precious female portion of the herd, .... for the male seal is strong and no hunter can get within shooting distance of him, as he can generally ifrom the fastest boat pursuing them In two or three years most of the would be destroyed, with their young, and in a comparatively short time tlse ^family would be extinguished They live only upon lish, and must therefore gc lie water for their food. The large fishing banks on whicii the Fribylov seals must pii for subsistence are from 30 to 00 miles distant irom the islands, and if the females iilled by the hunter there while feeding, the tiup left on the island, which does not me able to take care of itself until after September, loses its protector and dies wms are freely used by the poachers, however. Indeed, that is tlieir chief instrument Ngliter, and the effect of attacking the herds in the water with llotillas of boats, while pis filled with the sharp reports of guns, is injurious in the extreme." [These statements are, in the main, contradicted by the Reports of the United States' iais, to which the Minister of Marine and Fisheries refers in his Memorandum herein- e mentioned. I The Minister, so soon as the communication of Messrs. Sir C. Lampson and Co. [referred to him, at once caused tliorougli and careful investigation through the ctor of Customs at the port of Victoria, British Columbia, to be made into the Jience of the British Columbian scalers wiio have hunted in Bohring's Sea during lieason of 1890. The result of this investigation establishes — iThat, owing to stormy and boisterous weiUher in Behring's Sea, the prevalence of lion;, and particularly to a change by the seals of their usual haunts, as hereinafter Itioiicd, the early sealers of this season returned with a shorter catch than usual, 'olcanic disturbances on Ounalaska and neighbouring islands are said to nave uv.eurrca (95] ■, >;. ,.!. - K 2 ;• ! ii a \i r.r rii iW ij I ili Appcndii (CV Relition* with Canada, p 314 of Eviilcnco, Ibid., p. 269. Ibid, p. 2G5. Ibid , pp. 2GS, 269, IbM., p. 2C9. Ibid., p, 2C9. Ibid , p. 289. Ibid , p. 315. Appendix (D), Anpeiidix (K), Appendix (F). Appendix (G). t 68 " The vessels which remained in the sea, nfter finding the main body of the sealj on j new grounds, made tho best cntciies, and nil the masters of the Canadian xealcrs teiti] the extraordinary number of seals still frequenting this sea. More seals were found to the north and eastward of the Islands of St. Paul] St. Georj;e, distant therefrom between 40 and GO nnles, than formerly. Ileretofonl had liecii more plentiful to the westward of these islands, and distant therefrom i 40 milea. I he old Alaska Company, which now holds a lease of Copper Island, on tiieRij side, killed no less than 42,000 seals. The present lessees of the Pribylov Rrouj), Instead of taking fiO,000 on the 1 islands, and payinp; the enormous royalty of 10 dol. 25 c. upon each skin, took only 2 from these islands. They, however, bought the whole coast and Sand Point catch n pelagic sealers, at from 10 to 11 dollars for each skin, and so tho price of skins in I is kept high. Appended to this Report is a Table showing the catch of— 1. The Canadian sealing fleet, 1890. 2. Foreign vessels' catch sold in Victoria, showing a total catch of the above (l| 2) for 18»0 of 43,315 skins, worth 403,160 dollars, against 35,310 skins in || worth 247,170 dollars. 3. Names and value of Canadian sealing-vessels, with outfit, crews, boats, andc 4. Vessels carryine; part Indian crews. 6. Vessels and catch of Victoria sealing fleet for 1890. The Minister ot Marine and Fisheries desires to take advantage of this opportuiiJ draw attention to further testimony corroborating the views previously expressed bl Canadian Government upon the subject of the seal fishery, and given in the .Memoraif to which reference has already been made in this Report. Since the date of Ihati evidence taken by the Committee of Congress appointed to inquire into the relatioj the United States with Canada has been published. .James G. Swan, Esq., of Port Townsend, is described before the CommiaJ a man who has given much attention to the fisheries of Hehring's Sea, both foj own information and for that of the United .States' Fish Commission. He produced a Report of the Board of Trade of Port Townsend, \Va Territory, in which this Chrmber of Conmierce denounce the closing of Behring'sij a " s])eeies of class legislation for the benefit of the wealthy few." Mr. Swan advocated free fishing in the open sea, and explained at lenstl a valuable Report of his, wherein he expressed views opposed to those of Mr. was suppressed ; and, he adds : " The arguments and assertions of the Alaska CominJ Company that the fur-seids all go to the Pribylov Islands, and would be e.\lcrmiij if that Company did not have the care and protection of them, would easily be dispos if both sides of tlie argument could be heard and the real facts made known.'' Further on he says: "Congress and the country [have] been systematically I in darkness regarding the fur-seal fisheries in Behring's Sea, for those who havehaJ information to impart have had an interest directly opposed to imparting it." Mr'. Swan denies tliere is any danger of extermination of seals, and produces si declarntirns touching the existence of seals at places which witness now claims the] have abandoned. Finally, Mr. Swan is asked by Senator Pugh : — " You do not think it is of any importance to prevent the destruction of se! He answers, " I do, on the islands, but not on the outside, because the propoj of seals that are desti'oyed is a very small fraction of what the whole number is. are millions of seals in the Pacific Ocean. You have no conception of the vastm\l of them." The Statistical Agent of the United States' Fish Commission, Mr. Wm. A. \Vi| was asked by Senator Hall, "Do you think the seal is manifestly disappearing?" he replied, -' ! Lavc uo'eason to think so. I think they have been seen this pastyej almost as innumerable numbers as ever." Mr. Swan did not believe that for every seal taken several were killed. He refej to the shyness and mtelligence of the seal, and to the fact that they are never taken! in motion. Captain Joshua Brown said as follows :— (See Appendix G). I'his testimony, it will be seen, supports the statements of the Canadian already pleaded before Her Majesty's Government, and affords further assurance! Hi 69 the puriuit of seals in the deep waters of Behring's Sea does not tend to extin^ffth leal life. The Committee, concurrinp; in the above Report, recommend that your Excellency be moved to forward a copy hereof to the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies for submission to Her Majesty's Government, und that a copy be also sent to the High Coinniissioner for Canada in London tor his information. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. Al'l'KKhlX. Ai)|ieiiilix (A). Seal Fislixry of liehriwi's Sea. Washmjlon, 1890. (I'liges 41, 42, ami 43.) cws, boats, and cjH MIt. C-KOllOK TINGLE, a Simcinl Anent nf tliu Tieasuiy, kuvc Iuh nvideiioo Icforo tlio Baine fjiiniiiitteo, mill lie is jiiit forward Uy Mr. Iiliiine in .su])))<irt (if tlio United Status' cimtention. (Appembx til Mr. 151iiini''.s hotter t" Sir Julian I'auiicci'oto, 1st March, p. 17.) Ciiniinnin;,' Mr. (lliddon's npinion, as aiiovii inintod, Mr. Tiuf,'!" Hays : — " From Mr. Klliott'.s stati'nunit 1 understand tiiat tluin: aru no nioro seals now tliiui there wore in 1h7'-'. I am at a loss tu know Ihav Kir. Elliott ^'ot his ini'ormation, as he had not been on the islands f(ir fourteen years." Tiie same Mr. Tini^lu iii 1887 reported to Screlary Eairchild tlial — '■ He found the lines of occu[iun(y extending,' lieyond tho.seof lust year, and theeows ijuitc as densely jincked on tlie {,'round on most of tin; rookeries, vliilst on two rookeries there is some falling-olf. It is cerliiiu, however, this vast numhur of animals, so vuluabh; to tlii^ Government, are still on the iuerease. Till' condition of all the rookeries could lot be lietter." (Appendix tolJeport, Congressional Committee, 1"S8, p. 351>.) In a Itoport of the Alaska Commercial Comjiany (IStli December, 1887), it is stated that Mr. Geoifje li. Tin},dc, the A};ent a])pointed hy the Secretary of the Treasury, substantially confirms Mr. I'llliott in his view referred to aliove, except in;,' that, u])on a careful survey by himself in 1886, ho stiiiiated tluit the fur-seals upon tiie two islands had increaseil in number about 2,000,000 up to that ti'"o. Mr. Tingle's estimate for 1880 is G.."i;)7,7.30 (H. It. Ex. Doc. No. 31, fiOth Cougi'e.ss, 1st Session), im iu December the Alaska Coniniercial Company, in their Iteport, .saiil tliat the seals were ou tlio increase. The lat(^st defiinte iufovnuition ft]piiearin|;,' in the United States' documents reganUng tlio condition (if the niokeries is contained in the Itepurt of Mr. Tingle, who, as Special Agent of the Treasury ])epartmeiit, wrote from St. I'aul Island, Ala.ska, the ."ilsl .July, 1888, as follows: — " I am happy to lie able to report that, altlmugh late landing, the breeding rookeries are filled out to the lines of measurement heretofore made, and some of them much beyond these lines, showing cmiilusively that seal life is not being deiileted, but is fully up to tho estimates given in my Heport of 1887." From the above Unitod States' <iflicials it is clear that, with only partial protection on tho islands, the seals have increased in an amazing degree. These islands, containing in 1874 the largest number nf seals ever f'oinid in the history of sealing at any plarc, contain to-day a nioro astoiinding number. AVheu the number was less than half of what it is at jiresent, Lieutenant Washburn Maynard, of tlie United States' navy, was instructed to make an investigation into the condition of the fur trade of the Territory of Alaska, and in 1874 he reported that 112,000 young male seals had been annually killed in each year from 1870 to 1874 on the i.slands comprising the I'ribylov group, and he did not think that this diminished the numbers. Lieutenant Maynard's Report (44th Congress, 1st Session, H. I!. No. 43), aa well as tliat of Mr. liryant in 18(i9 {VA. Doc. No. 'i'l, 41st Congiess, 2ud Session), largely supjHirta the contention of the Canadian Government respecting the productiveness of the seal and tlieir habits during the breeding season. It is not denied that seals enter Behring's Sea for the jmrpose of resorting to the islands to Jiropagate their species, and because the immense herd is chiefly confined to tho islands lor this purpose during the breeding season it is that the .seals have so constantly increased. Notwithstanding the lax efforts on tlio part of the United States to guard or patrol the breeding islands, the ditHculty of ajiproacliing the rough coasts thereof, the prevalence of fogs, and other causes, have in a largo degree prevented too destructive or too niuuerous raids being uiado upon the rookeries. The Canadian Oovernnieiit conteiids that while seals iu calf are taken on and off the coasts of British Columbia and California, and also during their migrations near the Aleutian Islands by Indians luid Aleuts, the bulk of the seals taken in the open sea of that part of the Pacific Owan called Behring's Sea are bulls both old and young — but chiefly young — and that most of the cows wheu t^ken aro known na "dry cows," i.e., cows that have nursed and weaned their young, or cows that are barren, or thoso that have lost pups from natural causes. I II m 1 n 70 ll nuisl iiImo lie nolr.l Mini IIm-iv inv ww I'imhiiIcb lliiui iiuiloN in ii houril iiC wniln, ("Tripto AlnHkrt,'' WiiiiliiKiii, )> 1>!.^ 'I'lio )»>Mi(iiiii liiKi'ii \<\ till- 1 'iminliiiM < Imm hiiimmiI im mii|i|hiiI<>iI - I. Hy (111' limtiiiy 111 Itii' niiiKiMirn im ilnivo jjivi'ii, iiml llii' itiwu. ini'i'OUHa sliowii ilnBiiili' Hn, ooimtiuil Killiiin mill iiiiiln u|ii>ii (111' hIiiii'Im ilimii.; lln' |>iihi ."ndii'V. ■J. \\) (lie rin( (liii( (111' nlil ImlU (lull liiiM 1 I'lii iiMi' d' Imlil (ln'ir |Mi«ilitiii mi (lii' ninldiiii"; y^„ im,, (lie wiiti'i- III III!' I'liil of III!' iiiKiii;', ii'iiMuii lii'lvM't'ii III \ I'll mill Idlli Ah^^unI, ^^l. II. Kx. Urn Ml). Kg, 'i'4(li ( 'I'li'tii"*)", \M Mi'MMinii, ,\|i|'i'iiili\, |i 111''.) Ml. i'lmlv, I'll (lie ,\iilm,(n mchI liMln'iicH, in "'I'lii' KimIu'iich 'MhI Finliorv liiitilt«lrl(>t« in (iii« I'liii,.,} SiKlcH," ISSV, |>|'. 'I'M l',!!, MiiVM : " In vi'iN .Mdinnv wi'iidiri, wlii'ii (lii'\ dlu' wiiImI nii' iIiIm'ii iiilii (In' mcii, (lii'V mi' I'mi'i'il In lii'lnl{(i (l\t>iiiii'Ui"« (ii llii' «l(i'll('Vi'il .Miili' 111 iIh' i'llmiil. Iiciii'i' llii' iiii'ii liiiil (lull uli'tiiiy wnillii'i iiiiyi tlicin licnt. 'IVii I'v tlivi'c ntil iiiiili'M, li'niii'd ' liciii'li iiiiimIitw.' Ih'M ii Ih'iu'Ii I" (lli'iii'ii'lvcn miil cnvi'r i( wllli nnvn, lull iillii« 111' iidicf iimli'H (.1 liiiiil (i|i Till' iiiiili"" (i«li( liiriiiii.-.lv, lUi.l mii' iiimi ("M iiii' lliiil. lie liml nwu iin iilil mull' liiki' ii|i n ymniiri'i' nin' in Iiim Ici'lli mmiI lliii'vv liiin iiiln IIh' nil. Tlic iimli'H nlmw lii.'lil wlimi \vlii|'|'('il. mill nil' vvilli (jli'iil ilillii'iilly tliUrii iiilu lln' .'"'ii. " TIu'V nil' «iiiiin'(iiiii"i (ii'iil.'il «i(li liiMiil'li' lnii(;ilily. Tin' fi'iimli"< i;iv(' liirdi In (lie yniiiij; hikih hHi'v (lien Ml mill. " Alli'i- li'iiN III;; (111' iiiiiKi'iii"! (Ill' I mill ilii (I'll ci'liiiii (ii llicm luiniii (Ii.;! . :'iiniiii," H. \\\ (111' dill iIimI IwoIIimiI') hC nil llii' mill 'm (lin( mv Imhii me lii'Vi'C ji''iiiii((i'il In Iniul ii|iiiii (lii. RHKi'' 'icinniil > Mil (111' li'mnli"* I'lii i lm",i' luiinl nC luii'lii'lni.-i, vvlicii i( viiiilM Imnl, licilii iiiili' inviiy liuni 111,' I'Vi'i'iliii;; f;ii"Mi'l". (W. II. I''llii>(l. II. Ii, N" MW.l M{\t ('niiirr.'Mx. \< I I;M TIu'V .1(1' iliivt'ii I'll' (Hill ('ii' wiid'C. (('liivK''i mln'li' cm Andiii'di' »riil llsln'cy iiiiliifi||-ii'M nf dn' I'mloil Slut.'.-, Mi'i'diKt '\ \ol ii. iSft;, ii. 4:11.) Yimii;'. '<i'iils m>' |iii'vi'(i(('il Ciiim Imnliii;; mi rnnKi'iii'M. (^Mx. l»in>. fl.'l, 4 ttli CiKi^!!'"''"'. ImI Hi"wiiiii, 1> ':'.'t ; ■'I'l' iily.i Klli.i((, II. I!. IKIi ('mi;;iv>^ In( Si'.-<'.iim, Kn. I».ii' Nn. M.) N I'lwliii'; xi'iil'i miiM' iili.mi (ln' iiinlilli' i'(' .liil\ . in'i'miiinitiicil liy il fi'W nl' llio dl;.' •••p iiiiiIch, (vdiiuniiis; n jni'iid'C |>;ii( i'( (In' (iiin' in wiidi (II. II. Miln( vii', H.'<( ('mi^tn'n»i i!iiil Mi-.'<hIiiii, II. K Nvv 'M'. i^ ' I , Ills" 11 H. Kv. Iti'.\ Nl'. 1.1, I Kli ("mif'iv'w, I'.l Si'.'wimi, |>. 4 ) Ml. Simnii'l l''iillvin'r, Ass\';(;in( 'I'li'imii'v \jri"'.(, \Mi(iii,i; IVnm S(. Hi'mjrn Inliiiid, lat AnjjdHl,, IN73, til Mv. |ln!\i\(. Tix'nsiiiy A;;>'iil tm llu' Si'.ii d;|miil«. siivm : ■ I iii'liii' mi .-imin' i'( (lio diokmii'M (In' ens'!!!;;!' wnv" fmini'ily lu'i'iiiiicil liy yimitR Imrlii'lnc-i in hrtnliii'; y\\M\n thr dni-k .;nniinl me I'mniiji'd'lv I'lnrKi'il iip l>y I'l'iniili's, (liiirt )iii'Vi!ii(iiijj tlic ymKii; mi'iiIh flMin Imi.liH};. mi. I mh (he ;:iv;i(i'i Jimiii'ii nl' llirt wimiil slinii' i.'t iiini|iii»ril nf liiftli rlillii, il itimIith il. tllllii'nli ("iiv iin\ [:i\':i( numl'i'i to I'lVcil ;i Imnlinu Tlii'ii' mi' nl m nnmci'miM nlil iiml<','< rnimdinl.lj- )}«i»nlin;; (lio slmb' line. \\ liioli miiKi"« i' •'^•." nmii' 'li(lii'iil( Inc (lie \iiiiii(! niii'i In wmlv tlirir wiiy nii Uiii Kd k f;iMiiinl ' Tlii'n, iipnn. i( iiin«( I'o Ti'mi'mli'ti'il [\u\{ (hn nnn-l'ii'i'ilin;; sml^, I'niiwi.Mlinp, nf iill tlin yoiirlitifin IM1.1 !»1l l.lic mules iniilcv ov T ynniw nf ;i;ii\ in'iiily i'i|iiiil in ir.imln'i' (lie lirci'diiij,' mchIm ; iiiul Wi Vllmti cstimnd'il, wlirn (lii'W wv'ii' l.TiM'.iiiKt s,'ii'm ml llin ixImKlN, l,ri(IO.(MI(l nf tlii'i nmnlirv wiTp noi\l>l>'(>ilni!: si'iils. (l".llin((. Al'pmi'liS (n II. 11. Ka. I'nn. Nn. S.'t, I |!li ( 'nii'.ri'n^'!', 1»t. Hi'mmiiiii, ]>. 7'.' ) On tliii'k fi\ii;;y >l!tV'< bill lu'li'C fi'itlj*, ninnlioviiiu nvcr n niillinii, will nfli'ii liniil nut on ililVi'it'iil l»nilini;-};i\>iinils. nml en (lie iv.iin\'nr.- nf lino wciidit'C ili'iiinn'iiv inin tin' wiitcr. O'-"'"". 1'- ''I'li H- "•• Uil'. lV-U;iv:-?. Ist S.'ssnm I'A. Wo. Nn, Sll.t The ynnijr Nii'hi'lors iln not i\'miiin mi shmx' Imii; nl ii (inic (y. 4, titli ( 'nnnr"ss, ImI McHHimi, ]■]%. \\y Nn. 4;^^ They «r\' sn nniii.'lMii'*. Imwi'Vi'V. llnit (limwimN nun Im .ii'cn (i)inn llii> liiuiliiig-(4iiiiimlii, ;is :\i! of (linm !U\' ni'vi-i' citln'v mi sliofi' in' in (lie wntcc I't (lin «iiiin' tiiiic {iliiil., yi, 44). My tin' fiirt thrtt the i'n«> ivnmio witii tlmiv mn's mnl sm-kli' Ihi'iii until nil Imvc li'ft. nii'v do not VIM on tlm iMoki'iics mitil ."> yom-s of n;;i<. (II. Ii. 1'a iVii'. 'No. 411, 'I'ttli ('nnjjn'HO, IsH N'ssion. \\ A) Tho\ di> no( !.^' Car (1>>(U slimn niidl (hn ynnii;; aii' inmi'd I'rvmi suys tliul Imtli niiltmt i4(',)ilinilt scaIs strtv with tlio viiunj;, willinnt t'l'Oiliii;; ii( nil. nn(il tlm vmin^ mn (i nr 7 wcckN old, iind tlmt. t'loii lln' nld nnos non. Inot (lin ymni': (n (ho vnd'r. ^("I.ivk's nitirlo mi .Xnlnci'dc si'ilN \'. 4'.!4.) riic vmnijj ;nv stiokli'il I'v llin t'mnnlcs Inv snnm ti'i'.i' mid (li'M l('f( (n (ti.'iiifiiilvcn lyiiii, nti (lir N«oh, \«hi'T\ ilii'v stvni tn ,'s;i\>\v fiit widinid t'livdii'v fncdiiij:. ("Tin' Kislii'iic" mid Kirtliiiij; Iniliistrioi^ of (1)0 Initod Si;ilos."' sivtimi C<. vol, li. lSjl7. \'. 4'.M.'I !• iv this roiisnii, llin^n tlint. siit' inipiicd in .liiui' rtri' ofi' HI tlu' wndr in Au;;n.'<t. S< ;ilsn n>\ (ln< At'ricni'. oivva ll;o soul tvni;\ins until tlio voiiiij; iiiii •,il,<; riiro o( tlu'ingolvc.''. {Ibid., rv41t"'> Tim bulk of tlio *o;vls mv ooiifiiuvl to tin i-ilind^ until iii- ,-M;ri-,<undn (lu'in. (H. K'. K.»'. l)m'. No. 45, 44th t^on;,:ri'ss. Ut Sossimi.p. "J) Tlio sii'uls novor hiuo (hoii placos, .soldnm idi itul lu'wv out :i(iytliiii;{ I'coiii Mny to Aitjjiist, wlu'ii thoy tako to tho vntov. I'lit, it is ln-liovod, tako 'm fnod nntil thoiv tiiml doimvturo i:i NovcmlHr. (H. H. Molntyiv. U. Iv, K\. IVv. No ni", 4(fit (.'on.urosy, L'nd Sosis^m. vol. v.) Mr. Kllind sup • IVrhmx-! slu' (0(\ls " ^p. loO of lii-j Hovmrt on Al;i.<kn>. (1S7I. H. K i'A. Doc. No. SII, Otli < 'mii,m'.''s.) Tho I'ulU wliilo on tho isltuid )\r,'\r'nt tlir nindiovs dikiiii; to tlm wutor. (" Marine Mi\nini;ils," hy I'^ptani Shminon. Initod Sinto,* lu'Vi'iir.o Mmino. 1S74. ]\ In:'.^ Frinn tin* U'tli to tho "Joih .'nlv tho o'l kotins mv tiiilor tluni ;it iiiiy ntlior finio duriiiL; tlio soiusoii, HS she |'\.]V'; hn\o ,ill Koii Kmii. .md xW tin' hulls, oows, nnd jmiis ri'in;iin within thoir liiiiitji, (11. 11, K\. I'Vv. .So. 4'"', 44th roiiizrix-i,-', l.<t Sossinn. p, ;!.) It l)*." Ihhmi .<1iowu t!i:i'. wlion in ihn rookorio.'* niothors woiv destroyed, tho Vonti;; worn found i<«<i Av . Inn l*:'ofo,-<<or F.llioti, >.n ivtori'noo to tho I'rihylnv Islniuls, says: — '■ With Xl\c «'SJivption of tiioge animals which have iweivod wounds iu combat, no sick or dying <«(«ls nw *e«u M}Mn ilw islauus. ■■^""-""^■"""""' n in lliii |i|iili>i| n w.. Out (if tllftjrfhti* nntiiliPWi— -UioiwiMuIk iiikph tlumHiiMilw-*"!' mmU Uui.!. miiMl dh' i-vctv ytmr f maIiiih), ihiI 'iIH' 'itiVn I ;'V"«r wrii Ui<\v. I'liny ttvidimlly (tivc up llniir livi'H iit, ihdii," (Mi« IIhj AlMkn, 1M74, U. It, Kx. !)..(,■. Nil, HM, 44l.li «!..iii;iimm, p, ir.O,; fiiirii |iiii'l Apiintiilix (II). I »^„,i/ rtv.i,( Irllvr frmik Vnfiinin Siihwon ,/iimh,/nim on. Iniiinl tint ^rhmnrr " Mnllie Ailmiin," I'ort ' Tiifimmd, (t'tinhiiiil/iin, Mill/ li, IHHI), AS! ililcml i" "M Iciili'v mi ii volutin iioilli lin IIhIiImh mul Mriilinj;, I hIihII impI, Ih' iililii t" oi'" yipii ll«il«n»ii«wllhO»««Ji, ■■nN llii< ll«)pi>rliPN (pf lliM NiPiMi I'piiidn (Icpmhi, IIp'Ipimik'h Hcii, hipiI Ahipfkiiii whIith, IpiiI will ii'li'l •''"*■ IJin.liililcn (I. Hwiiii, l'',n(| , (p|' I'lirl, Tpiwii-ii'IiiI. wIki IipI'p ;;ivi'ti iippikp piI Ip'IpI ippIi I<p pplilliiiiilii! iiiCppllimUiilP XmlliiiPKi llnlinricpt, liiiMi liPl' liirt iiWli Biiliiil'iiP'.li>p|| iiikI Iipi- Mih I'liilt'il HtiilHn' I'injp < Miiiipiinnipiii, wiIIp ^inlm Imn I'ppfniHpiiiiiltMl, ihhI iii'd'il (tvcr hiipi'p' il whm fliHl I'ipiipiimI, iIhpii ipiiy i I Iipivh wpbii nil Un' j(iltr(«ipml, iiiipI yppii i'pmi ri'ly I'lilimly iippiii llii> iiilipiiiinii pm Iip' mipiv wive v'pii. hviliiilHii rclcv yiiii Id'Mr, .liifiiiim lliipwii, ppf HhIi'Iip, Mm <f<iii ipii'ip'll'i, 'iwipi'I' ipf miIupiiiH!!' 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I 111' nriliT nl' Ilin ( Invdi'iiiiiiiliti liy Acl nf <!iMiKr<:HM ''liwiiij,' (IWiril'H'i" .Sen Ih iiii ,\(I iinl, I'nr llii' Ipciirlll nl' llir pi'iiph' Ui iii'i'lirn lliriii ii, cliciip iillicji' ni' fnml, liiil, llrllii' Hiili^ lii'iii'lil, 111 II .MJiiipIn liiiiiiiipnly, In ciiuliln llinill In Hilpply lirticli-: nl' hixiiiy Ini- iJin iiiiniKilili' .'iciliiiif; i.r llic rirli. Wi' lii'lii'Vd IIiIh AcI nl' ( 'iii|i:;ii'iiM In liii ii Miicii'';! nl' cIhsh Ici^'i'iliil.inii fni iJiii lirni-lll. nf llic. wi'jillliy I mill us 'iii'li in (p|ipii.m'il In Uu- piiii(;ipli';i nl Hniiliil [piiIpIIi'. pnliuy, iiiiil wn |iinlijHt/ (igiiijMt. itn (urliiyr iDtinuiiiii'c. Jaiiirn il. t>H<nn, 111 ri'i'ly In a ndiiiniiiuicntinii rcci'ivi'il liy iih' I'miii t)in i Jntntiiilti^c nri i'olalinn.i willi f 'diui'lii, Itid,;. 2<8. i I ii;itii 111' till" 4t!i Aiiiil, JHH',), iiiviliiiH iiil'niniiil.inii I'rnin niii nii IIk! KniiiTuI Hulijcil, nf tliiiir oliijaUiiii,'*, litiii iiHpiiciiilly to tlui iihlicriim nf llic I'lu'iflc cniiMt, [ Imvii liii! hniiniir to fliiliiiiil tin; iiwiliU :— "ii till' Jf'illi Nnvniiiliiii', 1R7!I, I'rnfimMnr Spdiircr !''. I'.iiinl wrntu mn frnin Wimliiiiftlnn : " I kIioiiM |viry[;l;i(l In liiivd ymi iiililcrtiikii lliii wnik nf inlii'c.liti;^ Ihn (iHlii'iy HliitislicH ffir l'iij,'('l, .Sniiii'l. Vour Jottlimy III! as yoli t'lmnso tn nnikn il, purliculiir ittU'iilinn lifiin^' )ini(! nf oitnnv- in tlm HtJilJHtii'H nf Kim' (unl yiiilil. , , . Of ('(lurHii, I flIiniiM wish you tn liikn up llii' Inml Mna! liMlicrit!.!! (w well hi tho krs.' AiJi'.i^r u|inn thin iiiviliitiiiii, I pii'piui'il .'iml I'nrwiiiili'il tn I'lnl'cssnr liiiinl a llcpnrt nn thf; J-wil lislicry oil' IliR (Mitranci' in tlm Stniit nf l''iirii iiinl wrst cniiHt < I VViiiliiii),'t.nii 'I'crrit iry, wlii(;h Sfriil I'miu Ncali liay tn liim liy mail nn thi! lidth .Inly, I8'^0; alsn a piipur nn tlin fond tisln'H of "liiUvry, \ViuMliiiii,'tnii 'J'ciTitnrv, Siiplciiilii!!' IHHO, iiMil nn nxliaiiHtivi' iiinno^^'rajih of tho lialilmt ^tytil'l'iiiii! I'lattiiiy and riij,'('t Snuiul, iiikIit lialn nf thi' onili Odnlinr, IHKO. Oil the Kith Ndvcinlii'i', ISHO, I rcci'ivcd at N't'iih I'liy a Ictli'i- finiii I'rnfi's.snr O. Brown finodc, W Wimliiiitjldn, oOlli OrtoliiT, '88(1, in which Im miiv.h : " Vniir itii|inrt nn fur-s(;al fishery is at hainl, fisiif (iiiMit iiu|i(ii'ta!K!(j tn UH. I lllll viiry nimli Hiirprinril at tho (sxtciit nf tin; hnninoss in your Him." This JIuport was atlnckod in a nm.st viniliMit niaiincr hy Mr. IIiMiry W. Klliott, who, liki; Hli'ibiiu beuii umpluyud by Ihu oi)uth.suuiuu luHtituliou to iiiaku iiivuHtigatiuus ou thu habila of tho I'; 72 Relatiomi with Ctud*, p. 2«». Ibid. lUd. fur-seals. Mr. Elliott, in his Eeport on tho .seals of tlia Pribylov Tslamls, s.ays tho pups of the fnt.j cannot swim, but will sink like n stone if thrown into tho water. I showed that the pups of tlio turJ seal at Capo Flattery do swim as soon as horn, and adduced proof to show that in tliis rosjject the seji of Cape Flatteiy differ from tliose of Behring's Sea. This statement of mine was in direct uppositioJ to the statements of Mr. Elliott, mid constantly reiterated by tho Alaska (Jonimcrcial Cmuimnv for tlJ past twenty years, that all the seals of tho North I'ncitic go to Beliriug's Sea, and eongregiiti.' iirmciiaii on tlie Wbylov Islands. Tlie remarks of Mr. Elliott, which con be found in "A Moiio;,rriipluif [L Seal Islands of Alaska," a special Bulletin No. 17f' of the United States' Fish t'omnii.ssioii,lSH2,p. iijjl were so personally offensive to me that I rtnuonstrated with I'rofessor Bairil for alldwiiijj; tlie (iliiwitioij able paragraph to bo published, and by his request I jirepared another paper on tlui l'uv-.se;il. wliichwi published in the Bulletin of tlio United States' Fish Commission, 1883, vol. iii,pp. 201 to j!U7, in whicll I jiroved by various witnesses, Government otticei's, masters of soaling-vessels, white tnuliTs, anj Indians tliat I was correct in my assertions contained in my Report of 1880 above referred to, ] These Keports of mine, altliougli publislied by the Government, seem for some reason to 1 systematically kept out of sight whenever information regarding seals and tho fur-seal lishoryis desire by Members of Congress. Tho arguments and assertions of tho Alaska Commercial Company that tho fur-seals all p) lo tlJ Pribylov Islands, and would be exterminated if that Company did not have the care and ])rotoetion ( them, would easily be disproved if both sides of the argument could be lieard and tlie rciil tacts mai known. I wisli to make no charge against the Alaska Commercial Company. They are a comnierciaj oi-ganization, and they follow out their true instincts to make all they can out of their vciy inotltaklj lease. They are only repeating tlie policy of the Hudson's Bay Compimy, which fdi- imuv 100 years deceived the British Parliament by the same arguments now used liy the Alaska Comnieniq Company, until when, in 18.58, they ajiplied to rarliament for a renewal of tlicir Cliaiter, tliosf wis and far-seeing statesmen. Roebuck, Gladstone, I^ord Ihny, and Sir E. B. Lyttmi, cxposeil [\k sluil|i,i sophistry of the pretensions of tliat Company and a renewa] of their Cliarter was denied tlieiii. ♦ •••••» Although my Report on tlie fur-seals of Cape Flattery in 1 880 was published by the Governracnl in tlie Fislieries E.\hibit of the Tenth Census, and sueeriugly criticized liy Elliott, as alluded to, I havi lieen unable to procure a single coi>y, altliough I have made diligent search in all the volumes of tlJ Tenth Census Report In like manner has Congress and the country been systi matically kept in darkness ivgaidiu;; till fur-seal iisheries in Beliring's Sea, for those who have liad tlie information to impart huve had a] interest diroctlv opposed to imparting it. « ' • « • * ' • It is constantly asserted in Washington th.\t the indiscriminate slaughter of seals will externiiualJ tliem, and cases are cited of the Islands of Alassufuero, Lobos, and othei-s on the Pacific coast, where tJ slaughter by crews of vessels from New Lcuidon, Connecticut, and other New Eiiglaiul ports iii| entirely e.xterminated the fur-seals at those islands and at Capo Horn. I assume that fur-seals can a more lie exterminated than herring or codfish. They may be driven off from a rookery, hut tlicv a not exterminated ; and, in proof of my assertion, I respectfully ask permission to file the sworn stitel ments of Richard Dupuis relative to the fur-seals of Cape Horn, and of Edward Thomas liiggs lolntivl to the fur-seals of the Falkland Islands, whicli I have respectively marked "Exhibits N09. 2 and:!.! Tlie statements show that the fur-.seals have not been exterminated at those places, but are taken i considerable numbers every season, and, although at one time were almost driven entirely iwav, irj now returning to their former haunts. Appendi.x (C). RKc'.vm-uL.VTio.v (1889). Venoh. i Coa.tC.Wl>. Buhring', Total. British ,. American German . . I ; 1 12,463 \ 1.V407 ..; 2,318 3,403 .. .. .. .. 240 1 1,461 27,960 5,721 l,!Ol Grand total 15,021 1 20,361 1 i 35,382 Total Talue, at 7 doUari fn ikin, 247,674 dolUrg. 'ur-soals all ^n tn thj uv ami iM-fitoetion i ' till! real lact,< niai .1 by the Governraei as alliulcd to, I haJ I tlio volumes vi thl 73 Catch of Canadian Sealin" Fleet, 1890. Nmm. Spring Catch. Sand Point. Behring'a Sea. Totd. Mary Taylor .. .. .. .. 104 302 592 998 Pathfinder (Pioneer) ,. 235 716 984 1,935 Viva,. .« •• •• .. 262 436 2,0U 2,713 Triumph ,, .. .. ,. 182 1,018 473 1,673 E. 1). Mnrfin.. 368 878 918 2,1.4 Sapphire 119 1,378 745 2,242 ~ C.H. Tapper.. ,, 571 796 1,367 Kate 158 511 230 897 Favorite .. .. .. 356 981 1,116 2,453 Aurora .. .. ,. .. 165 797 ., 961 Butrice .. .. .. 220 710 854 1,784 Katherine .. .. 380 365 945 1,6>0 Lily 122 ,, 500 en Penelope .. ., .. ,. H8 578 445 1,171 W. P. Sajrward 154 339 459 952 MaKpeMf.1! .. .. .. , , 1,200 752 1,952 Juanita .. .. .. 97 311 770 1,178 A. C. Mooro .. 90 703 630 1,423 Thereaa .. .. .. 1,5 569 450 1,194 Ariel 220 .149 1,137 1,706 Minnie .. ., 300 764 1.467 2,531 Sea Lion . . . • . . • . 254 817 774 1,845 Walter L. Rich 122 562 633 1.317 Ocean Belle .. .. ,, 940 480 1,426 Wanderer 82 ,. • • 8t VentLtv .. ,. 94 J , • • 94 Mary Ellen 115 951 ,, 1,066 Alountain Chief* . . . . GO ,, • • 60 Letitia* 70 •• •• 70 4,650 16,732 18,165 39,647 • Indian own 'rs. A ^'i I !• feals will oxterniimlJ icific. coast, where tiJ 1' Eiif,'laii(l porta ij that fur-seals cans rookery, hul tliey .1 hie tli(i sworn stoJ riioiiins 15i,i;f,'s relntiJ xliibits Nos. 2 aiido.f ices, but are taktii en entiri'ly www, xi FoRKlGN Vessels whose Catch was sold in Victoria. Names, Coiat Catch. Behring'a Sea. Total American — MattieT. Dyer San Diego . . . . George A. White Henry Dennia ,. .. Venture ,, ., .. 74 • • 579 400 1,500 564 74 579 400 1,500 564 74 3,043 3,117 Gorman- - Adilc 220 431 651 Grand Total. Spring catch Sand Point., Bebring"! Se« Total 4,944 16,732 21,639 43,315 ?! Skina. Per Skin. Value. Spring catch . . . . . . Coaat or Sand Point cttoh ■ . Behring'a Sea catch , . . . . . 4,944 16,732 21,639 DolUra. 10 11 12 DolUra. 49,440 184,052 259,666 43,315 •• 493,160 Skins. Value. Total catch of fleet for 1390 ., 1889 43,315 35,310 Dollara. 493,160 247,170 Balance in favour of 1890 8,005 245,890 [96] ; ? W tmo. Value of Cnnadian Scaling' Vefssols, with Outfit, also showing Tonnage, Crews caniod, and value ii| Boats aiul Canoes sujiamtely. Nidw. , Owners. Tons. Value of Vessel, with Outtit. Number of Boats. Value of Boats. Nnmber of CanoM. Value of Canoes, Dollars. Dollars. DolUrs. C. H. Tupper.. Walker and Co.. . 99 13,000 7 700 k* ,, a Viva Carne and Munsie 92 12,000 6 600 ,. ,, 23 Lily W. Barns 69 8,500 1 100 « 400 2S Ariel .. S. W. Buckinan 9U 9,000 1 loo 11 500 2^ Sea Lion , , S. Collins iO 7.000 5 5oq ., ,, h Mary Taylor ,, Carnc and Munsie 42 8,000 1 IQQ lU 500 23 Annie C. M oo^e Ilaehott and Co, 113 15,000 7 700 ,, ,, 22 Walter L.Rich Cameron and Monro 79 7,000 , G ; 600 .. •• 20 AdMe Rati! and ('o. .. ,, 51) 5,000 1 6 600 .. 18 E. B. Starvin.. Mariin and Co.. . 117 12,000 7 700 • •, ,, 2e Kato.. ,. ('. Spring 58 4,000 5 50U 11 500 27 Pioneer (PathAnacr) Carne and Munsie fill 10,000 5 500 • ^ t« 211 Favorito C, Spring 64 8,000 ; . . 13 500 32 Ocean BfUe ,. R. Hall and Co. 83 10,000 7 700 ,, • ■ 23 Theresa Babington and Co. .. U3 10,000 7 700 • ^ •1 23 Sapphire Marvin and Co.. . 121 14,000 I 100 18 900 )2 Triumph . * • , Dit0.. AH 14,00(1 7 700 ,„ 23 Maggie Mac , . Dod and Co. .. 70 10,000 6 nk • % *» 2U Juanita , . J, Kinsman .. •• 49 6,000 1 lOQ 9 450 22 W. P. Sayward Lang and Moss, . 59 8,000 1 100 R 400 22 Kathorine , , J. A. Penney ,. 81 5,500 1 100 10 500 1 23 Beatrice W.Grant C6 7,000 • • ,, 12 600 1 29 Mary Ellen .. M. Moss 73 7,250 7 700 • • .. 23 Penelope . • , • Ditto.. 69 10,000 Tl .lOO • , ,. 22 Minnie V. Jaeobsen 46 8,000 1 100 8 400 21 Anror* J.Harold tl 8,000 1 100 10 son 2t Wanderer , , H. Paxton and Co. •. 33 6,000 1 100 8 400 2) Venture . . . , D. Urquhardt . . 48 5,000 4 400 ,. .. 15 Mountain Chief* J. Hawassund . . 23 1,000 ,, 4 160 HI Lctitia* P. Quachaund , . , , 28 1,000 1 .. •• 5 200 12 Totals 2,042 248,250 j 107 10,S25 145 0,910 c;s Indian suhooncrs. Thr following uoinod Schooners carried part Indian Crews (1890). Names. Number of Indians. katiierine ., 20 Beatrice .. ■ •< •• 24 Minnie • t • • • 24 Aurora . . . .. •; 20 Kate • •• •• 24 Favorite . • • ■ ■ • 24 Mary Taylor . •• •• 20 Ariel • • .; 24 Nii{>phire . « . ■• ■ • 30 Wond'Ter ., * .i .; lit .luanita ■. • • • • • 16 W. P. Sayward i *i •• 28 Lily ,, • < t < • 20 Venture , . 4i • • • • • 16 Adele Toial .. .. • • 12 324 fW' List of Vessels and Cateh of Victoria Scaliii'' Fleet for 188!i. Veascla. Coast Catch. Hehring'a Sea, Total. Britisli— Pathfinder .. 942 48 900 Ten's* .« •• •• 482 828 1.310 Viv» 1,481 2,882 3,643 Annie C, Moore 802 1,318 2,I2ft Tinelopo 381 l,79fl 2,180 Sapphlri! 1,364 1,026 2,990 Onwards .. .. .. 81(1 816 Juanita .. .. t. 135 "29 164 Jfaiy Taylor.. 747 .. 747 Minnie 200 soo 700 Wanderer .. 178 ,, 178 Ariel 841 844 1,685 Lily 281) 74 354 Black Diumond G29 ,'1,'i 684 Kate fi24 ' 800 1,424 Favorite 34ft 1,764 2,101 Mountain Cliief 2IU ,, 2111 Sierra HII .. SO W. P. Sayward .'10- 1,643 2,200 Winifred 22 ., 22 Heatrico . . . . . . . * ;>o!> 700 1.200 Maggie Mae , . 777 1 ,290 2.067 Triurapli 72 •• 72 12,403 1,>497 27,960 Amcridin — Waller Rich . . 1,4 Ifi , . 1,419 Sat) IMi-iiii . , . . 119 ,. 69 J, llaniiltun Leivis 212 , . 242 Vi'iiliiri' . , • . •• 317 :ii7 AlilT I,. AU-iT 253 llcni-y Ueiinis .. ', . i . 13 '700 7m Liillie , . 625 625 Mollie Ad.tins 1,5.'13 l„-)53 Ues»ie Butler. . 525 525 2,3ia 3.403 5,721 (Icnnan , . . . • ■ • • 240 1,461 1,701 Appendix (IJ). Mr. Jdina G. litraii's Eriikini; I Tluil U tin; liiiiiil in my iiiK^alidii. Vmi My Ihnt il i^ im! Iruc ihat I'aV cvury .scul taivi'li Iiy Relations with Canada, I.W11 suviiral arc killiMl '. — A. 1 do not l.elicvt.^ il ; 1 liitve no uviileiicr oi il. p, 281, 1(/. Iiii yiiu mil, think 11 tfrwil, many mn 'o an; killoii llian llicy ,i,'el the skins uf .'— .f. Xo, I dn nut ; ink liny say sn, and I knnw tlie Alaska Cunniu'ivial Company will Iry lo have yoii Ijelieve so, hut [lilt cviilcnee 1 have ri'oni tiie ,>ie<iloi's is diivelly In the eonliaiT, Alipcndi.K (E), J)/)\ Jomcii 0. Sii'diia Eciilt'iin \'>. llinv aro thosu seals taken fit (.'ape Flat .y '. — A. Jlost of Ihem are taken liy llie Indians, but, Ifeyoiirs they have been shouting .them 11 goml deal, and, its a eonsei|uenee, soaks have been very lbW.,p. 286, '1 tliiit when they see a boat or euiioe eomiiig, they will get outj nf the Wiiy, They are very iijeiil animals. I ?, Wlieu tiicy are shot, arc tiiey always brought iialiure ; — A. Yes, .Sir. ' * « » • « « • Appeudi.\ (F). Mr. James U. Swan's i'vidcnce. Ilioy are ne\er taken in motion. [95] Ibid., p. 18<. !L^ rf I ' ;i ■i- 1 fe h ' f, •; I 19 SaaiUoni withCuudi, p. 846'. « I Aj)pendix (Ci). (,'aplaiii. JoshiM Brmon's Ecidciuc LET the Oovernineiit place proper people on those isliinds, and estntilish open mid cluseniiJ tlien say tliat no sealers sliould go within :! leagues of tiiese islands, for the females tlmt nurse | young never go farther away front the islands than that; there is au abundance of fish IhiTefoni to eat. The females go back to the islands two (U' three times every day to nurse their youii". let no fishermen go in tl;ere, and let there be close months, and let tiiem iiave a fair and crjual dj and then 1 do not think tiiey will ever exterminate tliose seals, because they reproduce llienit every year properly protected. No. 23. Foreign Office to Sir C. Lampson and Co. Gentlemen, Foreign Office, January 2, 189]] I AM directed by the Marquis of Sulisbury to acknowledge the receipt of your 1 the 30th ultimo on the subject of the Behring's Sea seal fishery and the trade in seaUli with the United States. I am, &c. (Signed) P. CURRl^ No. 24. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received January 3.) (Extract.) Dotcning Street, January 2, 1891J I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Mar( of Salisbury, a copy of a letter from the High Commissioner for Canada, and ofadespi from the Governor-General of Canada, on t subject of certain statements in Siil Pauncefote's despatch of the 24th July respecting the progress of the Behring's f negotiations. Inclosure I in No. 24. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford, My Lord, Government House, Ottawa, November 22, 189( WITH reference to your Lordship's despatch of the 4th October last, inclo) copy of a despatch from Sir Julian Pauncefote to the Foreign Office on the subjecl the Behring's Sea seal fisheries, I have the honour to forward, for your Lordsbl information, a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council, embodying the commf of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries upon the views expressed in Sir Julian's despi I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTOl^ Inclosure 2 in No. 24. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellm^f Oovemor-General in Council on the 19<A Novembef, 1890. THE Committee of the Privy Council have had under consideration a ColoniaK despatch dated the 4th October, 1890, transmitting a despatch to the Foreign Office i the British Minister at Washington, Sir Julian Pauncefote, on the subject of the Behiif Sea fisheries question. The Minister of Marine and Fisheries, to whom the despatch and inclosure i referred, states that he has read with interest and satisfaction Sir Julian Pauncefote's ( statement on the course of the Behring's Sea negotiations, and of the present situatiol the controversy. The Minister, while recommending that these despatches be filed for future refere 77 deems it advisable to call your Excellency's attention to the following remarks in Sir Julian Pauncefote's despatch, viz. : — "The result of the careful consideration which I gave to the evidence on both sides was to satisfy my own mind that while measures are called for to protect female seals with young from slaughter during well-known periods of their migration to nnd from tlic breeding islands, and also to prohibit the approach of sealing-vessels within a certain distance of those islands, the inquiry had failed to estalilish the contention of tiie United States* Government that the absolute prohibition of j)elagic sealing is necessary for the preservation of the fur-seal species." The Minister further states tliat if Sir Julian Pauncefote means by this that it is necessary to restrict the hunting and killing of seals at all times when found outside of the islands or breeding resorts of the Behring's Sea, and the territorial waters surrounding them, or to prohibit the killing of seals found beyond the ordinary 3-mile limit in Behring's Sea, he (the Minister) desires to say that, having given considerable attention to the various arguments adduced in support of the contentions that measures are required to ;-otcct female seals, and that the approach of sealing-vessels within certain limits of the scaling islands should be prohibited, he has failed to observed any satisfactory evidence from which it could he established that regulations are necessary to protect the female seals with young within the Behring's Sea before they reach the breeding islands. While there appears to be no good reason for doubting that considerable destruction by sealers of different nations takes place during the months of January, February, March, and April, along the coasts of the United States and British Columbia, before the seals begin what may be termed the direct journey to- the breeding rookeries, the best authorities known to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries go to show that female seals with young proceed with extraordinary rapidity on entering Behring's Sea direct to the breeding rookeries, and that during such time it is impossible for the hunters to secure them by shot or spear, neither can he accept the opinion tiiat it is necessary to restrict pelagic sealing beyond the distance of the 3-mile limit. The Minister, however, while holding strong views upon these points, does not pretend that a full and tliorough investigation on the subject by those especially qualified to make such an exanunation would not support the impression apparently entertained by Sir Julian Pauncefote touching these phases of the question. The Minister, while differing from Sir Julian Pauncefote on the foregoing points, cordially concurs in the concluding paragraph of Sir Julian's despatch, wherein he states : — • "That if the United States' Government persist in their endeavour to exclude British subjects from any participation in the fur-seal fishery in Behring's Sea, on the plea that such exclusion is necessary for the preservation of the fur-seal species, they assume a position which will not bear the test of an impartial inquiry." The Committee, concurring in the above Report, recommend that a copy of this llinute be forwarded to the Right Honourable Her Majesty's Principal Secretarj of State for the Colonies, for submission to Her Majesty's Government, and also that a copy be forwarded to the High Conmiissioner for Canada in London, for his information. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. N. II ; 1^ w [, I 5Y OF PRESTON No. 25. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — (Received January 8.) Sir, Downing Street, January 8, 1891. WITH reference to previous correspondence, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, for the information of the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, forwarding a further Minute of the Privy Council, submitting a letter from the Collector of Customs at British Columbia as to the catch of seals in Behring's Sea during the season of 1890. I am, &c. (Signed) R. H. MEADE. ;d for future refert I i 11 78 Inclosure 1 in No. 25. Lord IStanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Government House, Ottawa, December 12, 1890. WITH further reference to tlie subject of my despatch of the 28th ultimo in regard to the catcli of seals in the Behriug's Sua, i have the honour to inclose a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council, submitting a letter from the Collector of Customs at Victoria, British Coluuibia, containing supplementary information as to the season's catch of seals by British Columbian vessels. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclnsure 2 in No. 25. Report of a Commiltpe of the Honourable the Prinj Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council on the 5th December, 1890. ON a Report, dated the 1st December, 1890, from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, sulunitting, with reference to the Minute of Council of tlie l.'jtli November, 1890, respecting this se:i!-on's catch of stnis by vessels sailing from British Columbia, in supplement thereto a letter received from the Collector of Customs of t)ie Port of Victoiia, British Columbia, under date the 11th November, 1890, and which is annexed : The Committee, on the recommendation of the Minister of Murine and Fisheries, advise that your Excellency be moved to forward a copy of this Minute to the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies for aubmission to Her JNIajesty's Government. All which is respectfully submitted for vour Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. Inclosure 3 in No. 25. Mr, Milne to Mr. Tapper. Sir, Victoria, British Columbia, November 11, 1890. I HAVE the honour, in further reference to your telegrams of the 15th and 16th ultimo, to say that since my letter of the 30th ultimo I have had interviews with those masters of bcliooi.ers that remained the latest in the Behring's Sea, and who were most fortunate in getting a laigc catch. Amongst tlie masters, W. 13. Baker, master of the schooner " Viva," whose catcli was 2,015 in Behring's Sea, and also V. J. Jacobsen, master of the schooner " .Minnie." These men being intelligent and careful mariners, on being questioned by me, separately declare that they have never seen the seals more plentiful than just before they left iJehring's Sea; Jacobsen saying that with his Indian crew, the few days before leaving the sealing-gronnds, the Indians would bring 250 to 275 on board daily, but that the weather was ve •- boisterous, foggy, and bad, interfering very much with their operations. And I can now safely repeat what I have ah'eady said and written, that owners and masters do not entertain the slightest idea tliat the seals are at all scarcer, and all interested in the sealing industry arc of the opinion that the bowlings of the American press about the scarcity of seals caused by the "seal poachers " (as they term our vessels) is simply manufactured by the paid agent of the new Company, '• I'he North American 'J'rading Comjiany," both here and in San Francisco, no doubt to gain some advantage for themselves. It is a fact well known to our sealers that during this year the only vessel that attempted to raid any islands was the American schooner, " Geo. R. White," on Copper Island, and last year two American schooners raided, but without much success. That our schooners have been most careful I can safely assert, from my acquaintance and knowledge of the character of masters and owners, that no attempt would be made by any of them to commit any breach of law or international regulations. \'arious reports have been telegraphed i'rom here and San Francisco regarding the reported sailing of our schooners on a second cruize to Behring's Sea, as reported for the express purpose of raiding the seal islands of St. Paul and St. George. I inclose you a cutting from one of our newspapers that gives the story. 79 On the 20th September the Canadian schooner " Triumph " clears u from this port for a second cruize in the North Pacific and Behring's Sea. Tlie same vessel was the first to return from Behring's Sea, owing to lacl« of success caused by boisterous weather, and (he owners thought best, rather than have her laid up to January, the time for spring outfit, to make reasonable terms with the crew, and send her out for a second voyage, as it was considered that tlie seals niigiit move to tiic westward and bo later. At this time it was known that the seals were found to the north and eastward of the Islands of St. Paul and St. Oeorine. On the sailing of this schooner, which was done in open day, without any attempt at concealment, telegrams were flying all over the continent that a Heet of British poaching schooners had cleared for Behring's Sea, to raid the Pribylov Seal Islands. A lew days after a small German schooner, named the " AdtMe," cleared from here to Yokohama. .Japan. She was also reported as having gone to raid the Seal Islands. This having been reported to San Francisco, I am creditably informed that 11. Liebes (of H. Liebes and Co.), the Resident of the Nortli American Trading Company, the lessees of the Seal Islands) telegraphed to the United States' Consul here, and who seems to have been controlled by otliers, and he made representations to his Government, which 1 understand he has since denied, but which, 1 think, there was no doubt, as Lieutenant Wooley, of the United States' cutter "Wolcott" came over to obtain further infor- mation from the Consul, and he also called at the Custom-house, and when he left me he was, I think, satisfied that the whole matter had been misrepresented to his Government. You will see by the inclosed newspaper cutting a copy of the order given to the revenue-cutter by the Assistant Secretary to the Treasury, O. S. Spaulding : — >"i ;■! "Didn't catch them. " The United States' Government spends a lot of money foolishly. "The steamer 'Bertha' lay at anchor in Port Townsend Bay all day Sunday. She was not attached to a British sealer either, as some tliought she would be, when she came back to Puget Sound. She arrived early in the morning from Alaska, where she went three weeks ago in charge of Captain Russel Glover, of the revenue-cutter ' Wolcott,' and Lieutenant Benhem, of the Revenue Marine Service, stationed at San Francisco. Captain Glover was seen by a reporter, and he stated that he went only as far as Ounalaska on his cruize. There he found the cutter ' Bear ' in charge of Captain Healy, and delivered to that oflicer all orders in his possession. " It will be remembered that quite a ripple of excitement was caused some weeks ago by the report that the United States' cutter * Wolcott ' had been ordered to Behring's Sea, and that the steamer * Bertha ' went in her place. The following orders were the ones sent on to Captain Glover : — " ' Washington, D.C., September 22, 1890. '"Captain Russel Glover, Revenue cutter "Oliver Wolcott," Port Townsend, Waeh- ington. " ' The schooners " Triumph," " Adelc," " Mary Ellen," " Pathfinder," and probably others, are reported to have left Victoria for the Seal Islands within the past three days, for the purpose of raiding them. You are hereby instructed to promptly proceed to cruize about the islands as long as the weather will jjcrmit, and spare no effort to protect the rookeries, " ' You arc not instructed to warn raiding vessels oft", but are instructed to discover them in the act. If they are takino: seals on land at the islands, seize and bring them to Sitka. In brief, get them with evidence to convict. " ' Give a copy of tliese instructions to the " Rush," or " Bear," who are hereby instructed to be governed by them. "' It may be well for you to obtain additional information concerning the raiding of vessels from United States' Consul at Victoria, if you can do so without delaying your departure. (Signed) '"O. S. Spauiding, " 'Assistant Secretary, Treasurer,' "The 'Bertha' took the place of the 'Wolcott' on account of the latter's unsea- worthiness, and supplies and men were transferred to the 'Bertha,' the Government li; i u U ;! p 80 paying 200 dollars per day for her, and the steamer started north. After meeting the ' Bear ' at Ounalnska, the ' Berthu ' whs laid up for a few days for some bhght repairs, and while transferring coal and supplies taken up for the Dading Company. She also picked up thirteen seamen helonging to the wrecked whaling-schooner ' Thomas Pope.' These will bo taken to Seattle by the 'Bertha,' which is now lying in Port Townscnd Harbour. "The cutter 'Bear' proceeded at once to Bchring's Sea, in charge of Captain Ileaiy, to carry out the orders of Spaulding. From the last sentence of his official despatch it is evident the original information was sent out from Victoria. " Lieutenant Willey admits having gone to Victoria to sec what could be found out regarding the matter, and he was told the 'Triumph' and 'Adtile' had both cleared. The former was flying the British flag, and had cleared for Behring's Sea, The ' Ad^le' was flying the German flag, and was on the way to Behring's Sea." The only vessels of our sealing fleet that have cleared, up to this |date, from thig port are as follows : — Canadian schooner " Triumph," Cox, master, North Pacific and Behring's Sea. German schooner " Ad^le," Hansen, master, Yokohama. Japan. Canadian schooner " Mary Taylor," Petit, master, South Pacific and Galapagos Islands. The " Triumph " clearing on the 20th September, the " Adolo " on the 23rd September, and the " Mary Taylor" on the 1 Jth October last. The master and owners of the "Triumph" assured me that the vessel will likily circle out of Behring's Sea towards the Kurile Islands, and endeavour to follow the track of the seals, probably returning by way of Sandwich Islands. The German schooner " Ad5le," I am satisfied, went towards the Kurile Islands, on the Asiatic side, and from thence, I believe, goes to Yokohama, Japan, where her owner resides. I have endeavoured to make clear to you the movements of the only vessels of our sealing fleet that have left our port (the rest all being laid up here until January), as a refutation of the many absurd rumours that have appeared in the American press as to the number of our vessels that had left on a second cruize, for the express purposr raiding the Seal Islands. In my letter of the 30th ultimo I inclosed a sta.oinent of the number of seals caught by each of our vessels, as well as the number sold here by foreign vessels. I would now most respectfully beg to point out to you the number of seals taken on our coast, which I have designated as the Coast and Sand Point catch, which arc both coast catches. Before this year there were only two divisions made, that is, the early spring and the Behring's Sea catches, and consequently the seals taken from Vancouver Island northward were taken into Behring's Sea, and, on the vessel's return, were credited as being taken there. This was manifestly wrong, as you will observe by my statement that 16,732 seals were taken from Vancouver Island to Sand Point, on the Shumagin Islands, and only 18,165 altogether in the sea. The statement sent you is correct, being carefully compiled by myself, and which will constitute the manner in which we will keep record of future operations, as by this year's statement it is clearly proven that sealing is not altogether confined to Behring's Sea, and that we have in the North Pacific a considerable portion of this industry. The statement reads as follows : — Canadian vessels — Spring coast catch Sand Point coast catch Behring's Sea .. .. .. Diffui'cnco in favour of coast catch 4,650 16,732 21,382 18,165 3,217 Referring to my letter of the 30th ultimo, I would beg to make some small correction as to the purchasers of sealskins this year at this port. I would now say : That nearly the whole coast and Sand Point catches (that is, 4,870 and 16,732 this year) were principally purchased by Morris Moss, the resident agent of the firm of H. Liebes and Co., of San Francisco, California ; trie said H. Liebes being the President of the North American Trading Company, who are the present lessees of the Seal Islands in Behring's Sea. I he portion of the Behring's Sea catch purchased by the said Morris Moss for the said H. Liebes and Co., of Sun Francisco, as reported to me, were as follows :— 81 Canadian Vessels. Sohoonera — "Knte" " Favourite " "AdcSlc" " Pi'iiflopc " "W. P. SiiywBrd' " Ariel " " 8«B Lion " Skim. 230 l.lirt 4:11 ur, 459 l,i;i7 774 The other portion of the Behring's Sea catch which was sold here was purchased princi|ially by M J. Davis, agent of Joseph Uhlmann, New York, but a considerable portiaa of them was sent to London by the owners direct. I would further beg to point out that the price of skins last year, 1889, was 7 dollars, [while this year the pricis have ruled liigh, the early spring catch at 10 dollars, the Sand Point catch 1 1 dollars, and the Ikhring's Sea 12 dollars, and in some small lots 13 dollars per skin, the aj^ent of H. Ltebes and Co. being active competitors, but those who could ifford to send their skins to London did better. Value of Vessels. I would beg further to call your attention to the statement already sent you as to the I value of vessels and outfits, crews, boats, ^c, engaged in the sealing business. 1 have seen sonr.e adverse stntenicnts made as to the value of our sealing vessels in eastern pjipcrs, and, as usual, without any knowledj;e o( the subject. I can assure you that our sealing-vessels ire a credit to our i)orl, the greater part of them fine schooners taken round Irom Nova I Scotia, and others tliat have been built here. They are all well found in every particular: ;ir outfits, boats, guns, &c., arc excellent. Tiiey are all fleet and excellent sea vessels, I remaining out at sea on tiu' Pacific during the tierce gales that prevail during the spring of I the year. A I have taken considerable care to ascertain the value of new vessels built here at present lirith the liigli price of labour, and J (ind that 100 dollars per registered ton is as low as a Igood vessel can be built lor in this province. Some have doul)ted this, but exi)erience has Ishown that in some ca^es it has cost 125 dollars, but ut the present I am assured that IlOO dollars ))er registered ton is a fair figure, while in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick llhe usual i)rice is 50 dollars per registered ton, being double in this province > >vliat it is least. So it is with the boats, which cost from 125 to 100 dollars. Tliey are nuide adapted to the scaling business, and vessels will carry from six to ten boats. The I other portion of their outfit is likewise expensive, more especially regarding the particular J of guns and costly rifles that experience has taught the hunter to he best adapted [to ocean sealinK. These guns cost 55 to 65 dollars each, and the rifles are also I expensive, so that when these larger vessels are ready for sea their outfits will be between |3,l0O and 4,000 dollars, and smaller ones I have been informed, on best authority, lire not less tlian 2,500 dollars. It must be borne in mind that these sciiooncrs will carry lacrew, including hunters, of twenty-three or twenty-five men. Five schooners will be added to our fleet from Nova Scotia this year. They have already hailed via Cape Horn, and also one schooner purchased in Yokoliama, Japan. Th schooners from 70 to 110 tons register. I understand that each of the schooners llhat hi!s left Halifax brings a full crew of hunters. 1 have also seen it stated that lanuniher of American schooners were going to .sail under our Hag in sealing. This lisabsolutely not true. There are no American schooners changing their flag at present, laud none contemplated. As a f ict, the American schooners have not been as succissful as lour own Canadian vessels, and fewer of them have visited our port lust year than I formerly. I have the honour to inclose you some further information as to the Owners land Masters Association. I send the newspaper cutting, which, I believe, is correct, but I lam |iromised a full copy of the proceedings, which, if 1 receive in time, I will inclose I herewith. The terms are :— Any hunter procuring; 400 seaU and upward "„ „ 300 to 400 200 to 300 „ „ less than 200 [95] Dol. c. 2 SO prr skin. 2 00 t SO „ 1 00 „ M k If ■; 'I 1:: 1 J*' nil I I'M !■■ I |i ..if '\^' 82 The owners have bound themselves, in the event of the hunters not accepting I this Bcnie, to import new hunters from the east, and no schooner to engage, in any cast more than three of the old hunters. " Interesting to Sealer$. " On Tuesday a meeiinp; was held by the owners and masters interested in the scalini; industry of this port, tht gathering having been called to deal with several matterB of vital interest to all parties co:>c»;rncd. Captain Warren was asked to take the Chair, Mr. Richard Hall, of Hall and Gocpel, acting as Secretary. The outlook for the next season was disci'ssed at considerable length, as was the result of the past one. It was the opinion of a<! t'lat the price of skins this year was considerably above the average, and that it was highly probable that a drop in prices would take place next year. The reason for the increased prices for the past season's catch was held to be due to the fact that the bad weather had been against a big catch, and that tiie shortage naturally made a livelier demand. "The question of pay for hunters and boatmen then came up, and the adoption of a scale per sealskin was discussed. It was admitted by the owners, many of wiioni are practical men, tliat the business of seal-hunting was a dangerous and arduous one, and one that should in all fairness be paid for in a liberal way, but, at the same time, the great risks in the sealing; business, together with the uncertainty of the markets, made the payment of an excessive rate entirely out of the question. It was also shown that a good hunter, one who was able to get many seals, was a cheaper man at better pay than was a poor one. An indifferent man occupied a boat and kept two boatmen at work, while the result of his season's work might not be sufficient to pay interest on the capital invested. in view of these facts, the following scale of wages was unanimously adopted : — Catch. Up to 199 „ 299 „ 399 400 or over Grey pups, each Pay per Skin. Del 0. 1 00 1 50 2 00 2 50 1 00 ! : " It will thus be seen that the hunter who captures less than 200 only gets 1 dollar each, while the good shot and experienced man who gets 400 or over has 2 del. 50 c. each. This scale has been agreed to by all the owners. "Boat pullers are to be paid 30 dollars per month, or 15 dollars per month and 25 cents per skin taken. This will be an incentive to the boatmen to work with the hunter for a good catch. " Another matter of importance came up, and that was the employment of old hands. It was shown that there were not experienced hunters enough to man the fleet, and it has been agreed upon by the owners to limit the number of old hands in each vessel to three, the others to be made up of new men composed of porpoise hunters from the east. This plan will give each of the owners an equal chance for a good crew. One exception only was made, and that in the case of a schooner which is owned almost exclusively by the hunters. In this case the rule as to limit in the number will not be enforced. The scale of wages will, however, be the same." Every year our sealers are becoming better acquainted with seal life, both in the North Pacific Ocean and in Behring's Sea, and I have endeavoured to find out from the mo't intelligent many matters on which there have been conflicting opinions. One of iiiosf, as to the number of females caught ; and even persons in this province have been ready to give extravagant opinions on this subject, as to the excessive numbers of females taken. Now it is well known to our best and most intelligent sealers that a considerable proportion of cow or female seals taken are barren, quite barren, that is, they have not bori'C young for one or more seasons. This the hunters well know from the absence of any a))pearance of lacteal fluid in the animal : it is now well known that the young seal will take to the water as soon as born, contrary to the theory advanced by Elliot. On this and many other like matters I endeavour to elicit all information that I think might be of service to the Government at anv future time. I i 83 I uni very hnppy to suy that the owners and masters of our scaling fleet arc always ready and anxious to conCiT with n»e at any time in regard to any matter appertaining to the sealing industry, and appear to be satisfied that the Government are doing everything possible to brini; about an honourable settlement of this important (|ue8tion. I have, &c. (Signed) A. R. MILNE, Collector of Cuntoms. Inclosure 4 in No. 25. Report of Proceedings, WF, tlio Undersigned, members of the Victoria Ship-owners and Masters Sealing Association, hereby agree and pledge ourselves to strictly adhere to the tariff of prices agreed on at our meetings, and which said tarill' is hereinafter specified, and we also bind ourselves on oiu' word of honour not to violate this agreement by offering any bonus or indutenicnts of any kind whatever, outside the letter of this Agreement, and also we bind ourselves to assist each other in every possilile manner to carry out this Agreement and preserve the integrity of our Association. The following is the tariti' of wages and lay to be allowed himters, boat-pullers, and steerers for the season 1891 : — IIuiltlTS On cutch of 199 nliins or less „ 20n-299 „ 3()()-;i'.»9 400 iinil iipwnrilH Dol. e. 1 00 per skin. . 1 50 . 2 00 . 2 50 Excepting in fvcry iiistjiiicL' jiivy pup-skinii, for which will be pnid 1 dollar onoh. The catch referring to the nund)er of skins secured by each hunter in his respective boat, and delivered to the captain or officer in charge of his schooner. Any skin showing grey marking under the fur about the shoulder is to be considered a grey pup-skin. f h :: . Boat-pullers and Steerers. Wages only, not to exceed 30 dollars per month. Wages and lay, 15 dollars per month, and 25 cents per skin. Lay only, 50 cents per skin (grey pups excepted) all caught in their respective boats, and delivered to the captain or officer in charge of the scliooncr. On each grey jiup for lay only the price shall be 25 cents. Second Officers. Wages not to exceed 35 dollars per month. We also bind ourselves not to take more than three experienced hunters in the sealing business on each vessel ro presented by us, said hunters to be engaged at the scale or lay adopted by this Association, as herein- before particularly described ; and we also agree that all hunters required in excess of the three hunters above mentioned for each vessel shall be new men at tlu; business of seal, hunting and shall be engaged at the same scale or lay hereinbefore mentioned, and this clause shall apply to all vessels owned or controlled by the members of this Association, whether clearing from the port of Victoria, or other ports in Canada or the United States, or any port where any vessel owned or controlled by any member of this Association may be fitting out for sealing on this coast. We also bind ourselves that the scale for Indian hunters shall be as follows : — For the spring engagement, for each seal-skin (grey pups excepted, for which will be paid the sum of 1 dollar [.s'/c]), all to be delivered to the captain or officer in charge of the schooner; and we further bind ourselves to offer no further bonus or inducement whatso- ever, directly or indirectly, in excess of the above prices for the spring engagement. On the Northern and Behring's Sea catch we agree to pay not more than 3 dollars for each seal-skin (grey pups included) delivered to the captain or officer in charge of the schooner, and, if necessary, also not more than 10 dollars for each canoe procured, and also a bonus of not more than 10 dollars to the Chief or Headman for procuring such canoes ; and we bind ourselves that the above shall be the only moneys paid out in excess of the cost of the skinii, viz., 3 dollars for the Northern and Behring's Sea engagetnent. And, lastly, we agree not to advance or in any way exceed the scale or lay of any [95] N '$4 hunters, sbojld those in Victoria decline to o".ccpt the hereinbefore-mentioned lay, but to procure hiiuters elsewhere. Jn the faithful performance of the within Agreement, we hereby sign our names, and the names of the schooners represented l)y us. No. '26. ^ir J. Paunrefotf lo the Marquis of Saliibury. — {Received January 16.) My Lor^, Washington, January 0, ISDI. I I/AV'E tlie honour to inclose herewith copies of the President's Message to the House o.' Representatives, transmitting a letter from the Secretary of State, which is accompanied by the correspondence which has taken place since the 2.3rd July, IB'JO, on the Bchrini.^'s Sea question. This corrp-pondcnce consists of your I.rf)rdship's despatch to myself of the 2nd August last, and of Mr. Blaine's note in reply of the 17th December, copy of ""hich I had the honour to traismit to your Lordship in my despatch of the 19th ultimo. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTK. Inclosure in No. 26. President's Message. Seal Fisheries of Behring's Sea, To the House of Representatives, IN further response to the Resolution of the House of Representatives, requesting, me, if in my iadgment not incompatible with the public interest, to furnish to the House the correspondeace since the Ith March, 1889, between the Government of the United States and tlie Government of Great Britain, touching the subjects in dispute in the Behring'. Sea, 1 transmit herewith a letter from the Secretary of State, which is accompanied by tlie correspondence which has t=iken place since my Message of the 23rd Julv, 1390. (Signed) BENJAMIN HARRISON. Executive Mansion, January 5, 1891. !■ To the President, Department of State, Washington, January 5, 1891. In response to you' direction, I submit herewith the official correspondence between the tJoverniiient of the United States and tl'e Government of Great Britain, touching the seal tisheries of the Bt'.r. '^'s Sea, since the I9th July last. I am, &c. (Signed) JA.VIES G. BLAINF. • 1 1(1 ^o. 27. Sir J. Pcuncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received January 20.) (Telegraphic.) Washirigton, January 20, 1S!)1. BEHRING-a Sea. With reference to my telegram of the 17th instant, I have the honour to inform your Lordship that 1 saw Mr. Blaine yesterday, and he showed me a statement uhioh had appeared "n the "Times" of the .5th January respecting the naval preparations nt the United States in the Pacific. This statement was, he said, based on a mischv vous telegram from the Philadc'pliin correspondent of the " Times," and explained tlu temporary e.\citcment in Loik'oii. The telegram was ah.-iolutely and entirely false. JNCEFOTI'. ^ARRISON. 99 No. 28. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received January 30.) tixtract). Downing Street, January 29, 1891. WITH reference to a Report, received through the Admiralty,* from the Com- :iiOT(ier-in-chief on the Pacific Station on tlie subject of the seal fishing in the leliring's Sea, I am directed by Lord Knutaford to transmit to you, to be laid before the llarquis of Salisbury, an extract of a despatch from the Governor-General of Cautada, vitli a Minute of his Privy Council, submitting a Report by the Minister of Marine and "islicries on the Commander-in-chief's letter. Inclosure 1 in No. 28. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. (Extract.) Government House, Ottawa, January , 1891. I HAVE the honour to forward lo your Lordship a copy of an approved Minute of III.' Privy Council, submitting a Report by the Minister of Marine and Fisheries on the letter from the Commander-in-chief on the P.acific Station as to the seal fishery in Beliring's Sea, copy of which was inclosed in y^uv Lordship's despatch of the itli Ncveniber last. Inclosure 2 in No. 28. Ei^port of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council, on the 3\st December, 1890. THE Committee of the Privy Council have had under consideration a despatch, liated the 5th November, 1890, from Lord Knutsford, transmitting a copy of a commu- nication, received through the Foreign Office from the Admiralty, inclosing a Report from the Commandor-in-chief on the Pacific Station concerning the seal fisliery in Behrin;;;'s Sea. The Minister of Marine and Fisheries to whom the despatch and inclosures were referred, submits the annexed Report thereupon, in which the Committee concur. The Committee advise that your Excellency I)e moved to forward a copy of this lleport to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State, for the information of Her "ijesty's Government. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk, Privy Council. Inclosure 3 in No. 28. Mr. Tapper to Lord Stanley of Preston. Department of Fisheries, Canada, Extract.) Ottawa, November 27, 1890. THE Undersigned has the honour to acknowledge your Excollency'.s reference, covering a lett.T from Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies, [ transmitting a copy of a communication received by Lord Knutsford through the Foniign Office from the Admiralty, inclosing a Report from the Commander-in-chief on I liie I'acific Station concerning the seal fishery in Behring's Sea. Tlie Undersigned has carefully perused the letter of the Commander-in-chief of the I'acific Station, in vihich he reports to the Admiralty the return of the sealing schooners Inini Behring's Seo, and certain information which he has gathered from the captains of i!ie schooners resi)«cting the nature and extent of this season's catch of seals. The Undersigned would observe that after full incjuiry through the Collector of [lii^toins at the Port of Victoria, British Columbia, he submitted a Report upon the ^ull.ioet of this season's catch, which your Excellency approved, on the 17th and I'Hh November, 1890, and that the information thus co'iveyed to Her Majesty's Govern- jiiicnt is supplemented by a further Report from the Undersigned based on additional I Hirticulars from the Collector of Customs at Victoria, under date the 11th November. • See No. 13. i - ■■',! it' ^rr \.\ It I J . i:1 I- Paragraph 6 of the Report twf the Admiralty from the Commander-in-chief on the Pacific Station, to wliich special attention ii^ directed by the Admiralty, is as follows;— *' They (the captains of the sealing vesHf'is) alao mentioned thai two-thirds of their catch consisted of female seals, but that after the lit«t July very few indeed were captured ' in pnp,' and that when sealin*^ outside tiie Bebrins^s Sea round the coast on the way up (where this year the heaviest catches were made) they acknowledged that seals ' in pup' were frc(|uently captured." 'I^he Undersigned would remark upon this, tliar »teal-hunters are in the liahit of classifying seils as males and females when assiwiigr their catche-^ for tin? markets regardless of the sexes ot the seals ; in other words, rtll wtals of a standard size and over are classed as males, those under the standard size teiog .'iassed as females. ft does not appear from llear-Adniiral Hotham's Report, that in his investigitioiis any special examination was made as to tlie sex<>«, anel the Undersign*»d would rcniarlv, in passing, tiiat very careful investigation is riecesswy in »>cder to di.««tinguish the male from the female seals. Reading j)aragrapb 6. iiovf*a..*i-, as applicable to the e^»(l^^ien•y» of the bunters previous to their entering IJeiiring's Sea. t.'he views conveyed by ifcear-Adnviiral /lotham to the Admiralty are not inconsistent wrtti information received from tinu- to time by the Under- signed, to the el^fect that a co\mf\i'r<d<t\o number of female seai- anf sf>a'l« "in pup" have been taken outsid*- of the lieiirin; - .Si-- in the great waters of tl.^ <" Vean, and aloii" lihe coasts of British Columbia, ("alitVu'vi^, and Washington terrii.. ''ii",- f .'ndersigned, iij>on this ])hase of the sealing industr • /norcover, would remark that u«^A»Mr the Unite i Staites nor anv other nation has yet c:vj^ ssed willingness to consider a <rfose season, covering the great waters of the Pacitie Oi;oan outsidi of Behring's Sen. .so a* to prcvtiii the destruction of seal life. The Undersigned is of the opinion that, upon investigaition by experts, j« might possibly be found necessary, for the preservation of the i'ur-8>'a] species, .o estwhlish Regulations in order to jjrcvent tliis slaughter upon the c-asts a!lx>vp mention*'.''! Tiifre is evidence that the slaughter of the females when '-in pu)i " occivrr' while the .,>*Mi tt" travelling slowly up the coasts on their way lo the roolieries in liehring's .S( resting, playing, or feeding, before they have begun the more immediate and journey to the brcL'ding islands. There is, however, it is submitted, no .satisfac; evidence to establish that when the seals have onct. ])assed througii the .Aleutian Islaim- on their course to the breeding rookeries, that ir is possible for hunters to shoot n! Indians to spear them; on the contrary, there is tidiable authority for stating (hat \\v journey through the Aleutian Islands and to the breeding .jroumls is direct and swift. Ii is known, moreover, that the pelagic seah-rs in Hehring's ''ea obtain their catch chieHy from the '' bachelor" seals and the "barren cow "' seals, found at different points olftho rookeries, at periods wln'n tlie breeding seals are mostly confined to the islaiuls, and ibe waters immediately surrounding the islands. JVo. 21). Sir J. Puunvcfotc to thr Mdrquis of ISalisbiirii. — (Riteived Fobruianj 10.) (Telegraph ic.) Waxkingtf.ii. FMyrmiery 9, W91. IN ;in interview Avhich T had to-day \^ ilh Mr. Klaine lu- ''■'u' ,..• had been intending to write to me to ask whether he was to consider -, - t'lriesfi' n- dence on the IJehring's Sea question suspended or closeOi » \'-uti$f rfl !til»«r ]• proceedings in the "Say ward " case now before the Supreme ^'jimfi. I said that I had no instructions on the subject, but that w» »'icw of tlie Bftpu: reply of the Parliamentary Under-Seei'etary to a ((uestiou in tiw Hons*^ of To' that the legal |)roeee(ling in (luestion was in the nature of a prirale suit, atio interlerc with the pi'uding negotiations, 1 did not think that your f/vrd'^iiip (ronsuk'vcil the dii)lomatie eorresjjondeui'e closed or even suspended. 1 addcil- however, thai f ■would inl'orm your Lordship ol' the inquiry he had made. No, 30. The Marquis of Salishunj to Sir J. Pauncefote, (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, Frhnmrii 10, 1301. Wn li reference to your telegram of ye a-rday, I have to intorm you that an replj to Mr. Blaine's note of the 17th Pccembcr on the subject of ilehring's Sea, will he sent 87 very shortly. I. have delayed it wiih the object of obtaining iniorumtion on a few points. There is not, in my view, any connection between the legal proceedings in the case of the " W. P. Sayward " and the diplomatic correspondence with regard to Behring's Sea. :No. 31. The Marquis of Sulisbiinj to Sir J. Paimcefote. Sir, Foreign Office, February 21, 1891. THE despatch of Mr. Blaine, under date of the 17tli Deconil)er, has been carefully considered by Her Majesty's Government. The effect of the discussion which has been carried on between the two Governments has been materially to narrow the area of controversy. It is now quite clear that the advisers of the President Jo not claim Behring's Sea as a mare daiisum, and indeed that they repudiate that contention in express terms. Nor do they rely, as a justification for the seizure of British ships in the open sea, upon tiie contention that the interests of the seal fisheries give to the United States' Gover?iment any right for tliat purpose which, aocoiding to inter- national law, it would not otherwise possess. Whatever importance tiiey attach to the preservation of the fur-seal species, — and tliey justly look on it as an object deserving tlie most serious solicitude, — they c.o not conceive that it confers upon any Maritime Power rights .over the open ocean which that Power could not assert on other grounds. The claim of the United States to prevent the exercise of the seal fishery by other nations in Behring's Sea rests now exclusively upon the interest which by purchase they possess in a Ukase issued by the Emperor Alexander I. in the year 1821, whic'li prohibits foreign vessels from a])i)roaching within 100 Italian miles of the coasts and islands then belonging to Russia in Behring's Sea. It is not, as I under- stand, contended that the Russian Government, at the time of the issue of this Ukase, possessed any inherent right to enforce such a prohibition, or acquired by the act of issuing it any claims over the open sea beyond the territorial limit of 3 miles, which v would not otherwise have possessed. But it is said that this prohibition, worthless itself, acquired validity and force against the British Government because that Government can be shown to have accepted its provisions. The Ukase was a mere usurpation ; but it is said that it was converted into a valid international law, as against the British Government, by the admission of that Government itself. I am not concerned to dispute the contention that an invalid claim may, as against another Government, acquire a validity wiiich in its inception it did not possess, if it is formally or effectively accepted by that Government. But the vital question for decision is whether any other Government, and especially whether the Government of Great Britain, has ever accepted the claim put forward in this Ukase. Our contention is, that not only can it not be shown that the Government of Great Britain, at any time since 1821, lias admitted the soundness of the pretension put forward by that Ukase, but that it can be shown that it has categorically denied it on more than one occasion. On the 18th .lanuary, 1822, four months after the issue of the Ukase, Lord Londonderry, ien British Foreign Secretary, wrote in the following terms to Count Lieven, the iuxsion Ambassador in London : — " Upon the subject of this Ukase generally, and espec'nlly upon tlie two main principles of claim laid down therein, viz., an exclusive sovereignty alleged to belong ti T! ■ over the territories therein described, as also the exclusive right of navigating 'r. witliin the maritime limits therein set forth. His Britannic Majesty must be .rnut'is •. M;, hereby reserving all his riglits, not being prepared to admit that the iti'i,!!..., use which is allowed on the face of this instrunicnt to have hitherto subsisted o*- those coasts and in those seas can he deemed to be illicit; or that the sliips of (■'iimdly Powers, even supposing an unciiiaiified sovereignty was proved to appertain to ti.r Imperial Crown, in tlicse vast and very imperfectly occupied territories, could, ijy tile acknowledged law of nations, bo excluded from navigating witliin the distance of lOO Italian miles, as therein laid down, from the coast." On the 1 7th October in the same year the Duke of Wellington, Ambassador at Verona, addressed to Count Nesselrode a note containing the following words : — " Objecting, as we do, to this claim of exclusive sovereignty on the part of lUissia, I might save myself tht- trouble of discussing the particular mode of its exercise au [Dr.] O i ■'] i f ii '■^ ]n .ft > : r I if • CJ 1 ••] f '>'■ 1.1 (f m Si a «: i-i H M 111 h IP ill t 1 ; i H * :i i li; ft: ! ^^ fill 88 Bet forth in this Ukase. But we object to the sovereignty proposed to be exercised under this Ukase not less than we do to the claim of it. We cannot admit the right of any Power possessing the sovereignty of a country to exclude the vessels of others from the seas on its coasts to the distance of 100 Italian miles." Again, on the 28th November, 1822, the Duke of Wellington addressed a note to Count Lieven containing the following words : — " The second ground on which we object to the Ukase is that His Imperial Majesty thereby excludes from a certain considerable extent of the open sea vessels of other nations. We contend that the assumption of this power is contrary to the law of nations ; and we cannot found a negotiation upon a paper in which it is again broadly asserted. We contend that no Power whatever can exclude another from the use of the open sea ; a Power can exclude itself from the navigation of a certain coast, sea, &c. by its own act or engagement, but it cannot by right be excluded by another. This we consider as the law of nations ; and we cannot negotiate upon a paper in which a right is asserted inconsistent with tliis princijjli'." It IS evident, therefore, that so far as diplomatic representation went, the King's Government of that date took every stej) which it was in their power to take, in order to make it clear to the Kussian Government that Great Britain did not accept the claim to exclude her subjects for 100 miles distance from tlie coast, which had been put forward in the Ukase of 1821. Mr. Blaine docs not deal with these protests, which appear to Her Majesty's Government to be in themselves amply sutlicient to decide the question, ■whether Great Britain did or did not acquiesce in tlie Russian claim put forward by the Ukase. He confines himself mainly, in the despatch imdcr consideration, to the consideration of the Treaties which were subsequently made between Great Britain and Russia and America and Russia in the year lS2u ; and especially of that between Russia and Great Britain. This Treaty, of which the text is printed at the close of Mr. Blaine's despatch, does not contain a word to signify the acquiescence of Great Britain in the claim recently put forward by Russia to control the waters of the sea for 100 miles from her coast. There is no stipulation upon which this interpretation can be imposed by any process of construction whatsoever. But there is a provision having in our judgment a totally opposite tendency, which indeed was intended to negative the extra- vagart claim that had recently lieen made on the part of Russia ; and it is upon this provision that the main part of Mr. Blaine's argument, as I understand it, is founded. The stipulation to which I refer is contained in the 1st Article, and runs as follows : — " Article I. It is agreed that the respective subjects of the High Contracting Parties shall not be troubled or molested in any part of the ocean, commonly called the Pacific Ocean, either in navigating the same, in fishing therein, or in landing at such parts of the coast as shall not have been already occupied, in order to trade witii the natives, under the restrictions and conditions specified in the following Articles." I understand Mr. Blaine's argument to be that if Great Britain had intended 'o protest against the claim of Russia to exclude ships for 100 miles from her coasts in Behring's Sea, sh" would have taken this opportunity of doing so ; but that in confining herself to stipulations in favour of f'uU liberty of navigation and fishing in any part of the ocean, commonly called the LiciSc Ocean, she, by 'mplication, renounced any claim that could arise out of the same set of circumstances in regard to any sea that was not part of the Pacific Ocean. And then Mr. Blaine goes on to contend that the phrase " Pacific Ocean " did not and does not include Behring's Sea. Even if this latter contention were correct, I should earnestly demur to the conclusion that our inherent rights to free passage and free fishing over a vast extent of ocean could be effectively rciicunced by mere reticence or omission. The riffht is one of which we could not be deprived unless we consented to abandon it, and that consent could not be sufficiently inferred from our negotiators having omitted to mention the subject upon one particular occasion. But I am not prepared to .ilmit the justice of Mr. Blaine's contention that, the words " Pacific Ocean " did not include Behring's Sea. I believe th^t in ccvimon parlance, then and now, Behring's Sea was and is patt of the Pacific Ocean ; and that the latter words were used in order to give the fullest and widest scope possible tr. the claim which the British negotiators were solemnly recording of a right freely to navigate and fish in every part of it, and throughout its entire extent. In proof of the argument ssed a note to andinar at such 10 ll^ the words " Pacific Ocean " do not include Bchring's Sea, Mr. Blaine adduces a long lljjl of Maps in which a designation distinct from that of " Pacific Ocean " is given to Ijjliiing's Sea; cither "Behring's Sea," or " 8ea of Kamschatka" or the "Sea of l/yuJir." The argument will hardly have any force unless it is applicable with equal Itnith to all the otiier oceans of the world. But no one will dispute thai the Bay of IBiscay forms part of the Atlantic Ocean, or that the Gulf of Lyons forms part of the Ijleditcrranean Sea ; and yet in most Maps it will be found that to those portions of jUe larger sea a separate designation has been given. The question whether by the Lrds "Pacific Ocean" the negotiators meant to include or to exclude Behring's Sea bends upon which locution was esteemed to be the correct usage at tlie time. The jjtc is not a distant one, and tiicre is no ground for suggesting that the usage has Mm\ since the Anglo-Russian Treaty of 1825 was signed. The determination of point will be most satisfactorily ascertained by consulting the ordinary books of ifcrencc. I append to this despatch a list of some thirty works of this class, of various [es from ITf'S downwards, and printed in various countries, which combine to show lit, in cu.stomarypiirlancc, the words " Pacific (^cean " do include Behring's Sea. If, then, in ordinary language, the Pacific Ocean is used as a phrase including the liole sea from Behring's Straits to the Antarctic Circle, it follows that the 1st Article jfthe Treaty of 1825 did secure to Great Britain in the fidlest manner the freedom of Im and fishing in Behring's Sea. In that case r.o inference, howevei indirect or Koitous, can be drawn from any omission in the language of that instrument to show bt Great Britain acquiesced in the usnrpatir i which the Ukase of IS'il iiad attempted. e other documents which I have quoted sufhciently estaldish that she not only did not miesce in it, but repudiated it nioi-e than once in plain and unequivocal terms; and jitlie claim mnde by the Ukase has no strength or validity except what it might derive [om the asscr . of any Power whom, it might aifect, ii results that Russia has never mired by the Ukase any right to curtail the natural liiicrty of Her Majesty's subjects j navigate or fish in these seas anywhere outside territorial waters. And what Russia pinot herself possess she was not able to transmit to the United States. Her Majesty',; Government have, in view of these con-iderations, no doubt whatever |at British subjects enjoy the same rights in Bchring's Soa which belong to them in ery other portion of the open ocean ; but it is, nevertheless, a matter of sincere Itisfaction 'hat the President is willing to refer to arbitration what he conceives to be (matters which have been under discussion between the two (lovernments for the last r years. Tn regard to the ipiestions as they are in'opo.'ied by Mr. Blaine, I should lylhat as to the first and second, no objection will be ofi'ered by Her Majesty's lorernment. They are as follows : — • "1. AVliat exclusive jurisdiction in the sea now known as the Behring's Sea, and iat exclusive rights in the seal fisheries therein, did Russia as^fcrt and exercise prior lup to the time of the cession * f Alas!, i to the United States ? "2. How far were these claims ot jurisdiction as to the seal fislicries recognized and Reeded by Great liritain ?" The third question is expressed in the following terms : " Was tlie body of water Iw known as Hie Bchring's Sea included in tlic piirase 'Pacific Ocean,' as used in the jeaty of 1825 between Gieat Hritain and Russia; ami what rights (if any) in the lliring'ii S'^a were given or conceded to (treat Mritaiu by the said Treaty?" n?i jl.,ie.sty's (lovcrnnient would hiivo no objection to referring to arbitration tlic |)art 01 ttiat qiic'^fion, if it should be thought desirable to do so ; but they would h that coi.<ent with the reservation that they do not admit that the decision of it 1 conclude the larger (piestiocs which the Arbitrator would have to determine. To flatter part of No. 3 it would be their duty to take excepti/n : — "What rights, if any, in the Behring's Sea were given or conceded to Groat |taiiiby the said Treaty?" Great Britain has never suggested that any rights were given to her or conceded to liytlic said Treaty. All that was dime was to recognize her natural right of free Jic'iition and fishing in that as in all other parts of the Pacific Ocean. Russia did not : those rights to (Jreat Britain, because they were never hers to give away. "4. Did not all the rights of Russia as to jurisdiction and as to tiie seal fisheries ir bring'p Sea east of the water boundary in the Treaty between the United States and ['J5j O 2 i' I h i ■ : ^ I ■ '- 1 i ; i i 80 Russia of the 30th March, 1867, pass unimpaired to the United States under tV Treaty?" This fourth question is hardly worlii referring to an Arbitrator, as Great BriJ would be prepared to accept it without dispute. ' The fifth proposed question runs as follows : — " 5. What are now the riglits of the United States as to the fur-seal fisheries in l waters of the Eehring's Sea outside of the ordinary territorial limits, whetlier such ri"! grow out of the cession by Russia of any speci.il rights or jurisdiction held hy her! such fisheries or in the waters of Behi-ing's Sea, or out of the ownership of the bredJil islands, and the habits of tlie seals iu r'^sorting thither and rearing their young tliorel and going out from the islands for food, or out of any other fact or incident conncJ with the relation of those seal fisheries to the territorial possessions of tiie UnjJ States ?" The first clause, " What are now the rights of the United States as to the fur.j fisheries in the waters of the Behring's Sea outside of the ordinary territorial limits ? a question which would be very properly referred to the decision of an Arbitrator, the subsequent clause, which assumes that such rights could have grown out of I ownership of the breeding islands, and the habits of the seals in resorting thera involves an assumption as to tlie prescriptions of international law at the present lim^ which Her Majesty's Government nre not prepared to accede. Tiie sixth question, «h deals with the issues that will arise in case the controversy should be decided in favouil Great Britain, would perhaps more fitly form the substance of a separate referej Her Majesty's GovernmcLt have no objection to refer the general question of a cl time to arbitration, or to ascertain by that means how far the enactment of sucf provision is necessary for the preservation of the seal species ; but any such referei ought not to contain words appearing to attribute special and abnormal rights inf matter to the United States. There is one omission in these questions wliich I have no doubt the Governmentl the President will be very glad to repair; and that is tlie reference to the /Arbitrator! the question, what damages are due to the persons who have been injured, in cai shall be determined by him that the action of the United States in seizing British veM has been without warrant in international law. Subject to these reservations, Majesty's Government will have great satisfaction in joining with the Government ofl United Stales in seeking by means of arbitration an adjustment of the internati(i( questions wliicii have so long formed a matter of controversy between the two Gova ments. I have to request that you will read this despatch to Mr. Blaine, and leave a cop]| it with him should he desire it. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBUE! APPENDIX, Miniani, John. "Naval Qazetteci," 1796. Brookes, R. " General Gazetteer." 1802. Montefiore. " Com- mercial Dictionary," 1803, "Geographical Dictionary." London, 1K04. CrutlweU, r. "New Universal Gatetteer." 1808, Mangniill, H. "Com' peniiium of Gco- grapliy." 1815. Galletti, J. O. A. " Geographiscbes TVorterbuch." I><ith, 1822. ivamschatka Sea, is a lnr<To braiirli of the Or* ntal or Nmtli I'acHic Ocean, IJcering's Straits, whidi is the iias.sugo from uii- Ncirth I'acitic Ocean to the Arctic Sim, Beerinjj's Island. An island m tlie Pacific Oce«n. [lk'hriiiij"s Island i.s in Rehriiigs Sca.j Kamschatka. Brjunilcd cast ami south by Pacific. Kamtsclinlkii. llouiided on the north by the country of the Koriacs, on the east and so«tli| the Notth Pacific Ocean, and on ilie west by the Sea of Okotsk. Tieering's 1,'sland. In tlio North Pacific Ocean. Becring's Island. An island in the North Pacific Ocean. Kaiiitclialka. River, which runs into the North Pacific Ocean, Kamtcliutka. Pensinsula, bounded on the cast and south by the North Pacific Ocean. Islands iu the Kasteni or Great Pacific Ocean : Bhcring's Isle. Slilles Meer. Vom i"i nordl. Br. an bis zur Berinpsslrasse aufwarls stets hcftigf [Behring's Strait is nt the northern extrcuiity of Behring's Sea.! 01 c grown out of: c, and leave a copi II the oust and soiillj 'iicifio Ocean, is stots hefti,!,'!' ii lelrfng's Island. An island in the North Pacific Ocean. I Jsering's Inland. In the North Pacific Ocean. ln"'s Island. In the Pacific. "EdinbwghGt. iettMr,"E<litionlt22 Tol. i, p. 432. "GanaralOaMttecr." London, 1823. " New london Unl- Tarul Guettcer." 1826. )(([ Pacifiqiie. 11 .s'etend du norJ an .siul depwis le CJercle Pnlaire Aictiquc, c'est-ii-dirc, dupuis " Dictionnti™ Geo- Loitde I'lt'lirins, qui le fait connnnniiiucr i\ TOcuan Glacial Anstral. f?/-'"''''"' ""'»•"•'•" 1828. Ij^Ues JIwT. Vom 30 .siidlicher Rrcite his znm 5 nBrdliclicr IJreitc vcrdiont cs diuvh seine 8cit«, Dr. J. C. Kelt mid Stillu den nanien des .Stillen Meers ; von da an bis ziir BerinRsstrasse ist es hefticen 1'.*'™*™?''''?''"*, "" ^ c DO StutiBtiachca Hand- J uuteiworten. worterbuch." Halbentadt, 1829. '1 the North Pacific ()cean. E«ring's Island. " Penny National Library; Geoi and GaKttecr. Library; Geomphy nnil n««»t»«u.v^* 1830 Arrowamith. Gramniir of Modern [lidirini,' (Detroit celibre). II joint I'Oceaii (.llacial Arctique au (Irand Ocean. ■ring's Strait connects the Frozen Ocean with the Tacific. lileAimdir flows into the Pacific Ocean. OeoirranhT" 1832 I lie principal gulfs of Asiatic Kussia are : the Oulf of Anadir, near IJhering's Strait ; the Sea of »''•'• • i.aiitl the Gulf of Okhotsk, between Kanitchatka and the mainland of Russia — all three in the tjcOtean. flOci'iin I'rtcifique Bore'al s'l'tend depuis le Detroit de Behring jusqu'au tropique de Cancer. « predi de la Geo. graphio UniTerielle," par Halte.Rmn, toI. ii» p. 181, Edition 1835. I Le Detroit de Behring. A eonimencer par ce ddtroit, le (Jrand OctJan (ou Ocdan Pacifique) forme Ditto, toI. »iU, p. i, hiie orientale de I'Asie. Langlois. " Diction* nairo de Geographic." 1838. [The J'acific Ocean. Its boundary-line is pretty well determined by the adjacent continents, " Penny Cyclopwiii," di approach one another towards the north, and at Behring's Strait which separates them, are only 1840. [|36 miles apart. This strait may'be considered as closing the Pacific on the north. I Behring (Ddtroit de) a rextremit<5 nord-est de I'Asie, separe ce Continent de rAnierique et " Dictionnaire Uni- m Glacial Arctique de I'Ocdan Pacifique. Jf""' d'Hiitoire et de I Miring (Mer de), partie de I'Occan Pacifiqne. H.'S'^Bodllet!" Pari», 1842. iMning (De'troit de). Canal de I'ocean .... uuissant les eaux de I'Oceau Pacifique i eelles de " Dictionnaire Gfek 1 Arctio ue. graphique et Statif tique," par Adrien Guibert. Farii, 18S0> I'acilic Ocean. Between longitude 70" west and 1 1 0° east, that is for a space of over 180° — it ■• The Now Americaa 5 tliD greater part of the earth's surface, from Behring's Straits to the Polar Circle, that separates Cjdopiedia," edited U tl.e Antarctic Ocean. ^LfeZ'Z "* New Yo;k, 1851. iBciiring (Detroit de). Canal du Grand C)CL'an uuissant les eaux de I'Ocean Pacifique a cellea de " Grand Dictionntira RB Glacial Arctique. de afographle Uni- ■ verelle," par M. Beicbettlle Mat. 4 y lis. 1855. I BJiring's Sea, sometimes called the Sua of Kamtchatka, is that portion of the North Pacific " imperial Gaaetteer,'*' p lying between the Ahutian Islands and Behring's Strait. !***• I Behring's Island. An island in the North Pacific Ocean. Fullarton'>"GuettMt of tho World." 18M. ^ [Bfliring's Strait, which connects the Pacific with tho Arctic Ocean, is formed by the approach " Cyciopndia of Geo. ' ■'H'ontiiicuts of America and Asia. graphy," by Chtrlee I Knight. 1856. j Iracific Ocean. Its jxtremc southern limit is the Antarctic Circle, from which it stretches McCniioch'a " Geo. jj ward Jirough 132 degrees of latitude to Behring's Strait, which seporates it from the Arctic gnphicai Dictionary,'* i ~ " ° o . 1 edited by F. Marui " iBde. jliring (I'utroit Je). Canal ou bras de nicr uuissant les eaux de TOccan Glacial Arcti(iue i " Grand Dictionnalr* s do rOccan Pacifique. H"';?"''''" I"" M. Pierre Laboune* Peril, 1867. I Behring's Strait. The narrow sea Wtween the north-east part of Asia and tho north-west part " Encyclop*dl* . lonh America, connecting the North Pacific with the Arctic Oceau. Briuanica," W6. I Bering (Detroit de). Passage qui unit I'Ocean Glacial Arctique au Grand Ocean. st.-Martin. " Nou. veau Dictionnaire de Gongrapble Uni> Terselle." Parii, 1879. [Behring Sea, or Sea of Kamchatka, is that part of the North Pacific Ocean between tho Aleutian Lippincott'9"Ga. ' p'.s in latitude 55° north and Behring Strait in latitude 66" north, by which latter it communicates «ettecr of the World.'* I the ArcUc Ocean. PhiUdelphia, 1880. ;; 1 1' ^^9! Srre* ind Johaatoa, ' CyLiuvKuiA of Om>- gnphf. London aad dtugom, 188U. Brockhini' "C<mT«r- MtioM La icon." Lripiig, 1882. Ritter'i "GeographiiKAi- Stettatiach Lexicon." Ldpiif, 1883. " Pocket Encyclo- psdis." Sunpaon Low, IH88. Clumben' " Encyclo- pBdii/' 1888. BUekWi-'Hodoia CjelopadU," 1881 Bditiofc 8» Behriiig, or Bheriiig. A strait, sea, island, and bay. North Pacific Ocean. • ■ P.ering'a Meer. Der nordiistlichste Teil des Stilleii Ocean's. BerinKSStmsse, Jleerengc clas nordostlicliste Kisinoer mit dcin Stillen Ocean verbiiidend. Behring's Sea. North-east part of the I'aeiKc between Asia and /\jnerica, Hehring Strait connects tlie Pacific with the Arctic Ocean. Reliring Sea. A [)ai't of the Pacific Ocean, coiumoiily known as the Sea of Kameliatka. Iiehring's Strait, connecting the North I'acitic wi»h tlie Arctic Ocean. Behring's Sea, sometimes called the Sea of Kauichiitka, is tiiat jmrtion of the Nor* Pacific Oced lying between the Aleutian Islands aiid Hehring's Strait 'i .. ■■' ' it. In sujiport of hi,s argument that tiic term "Pacific Ocean" was not understood at the time i including liehring'.s Sea, Mr. I'laint! has (luolcd a nine whicli, it appears, was i)reseiitcil by iN Uussian Minister at Wasliington after the ratification of the Treaty of the 5th (17th) April,™ between tlie United States and liussia. In this note Baron Tuyl .stated that " the Aleutian Islands, the coasts of Siberia, and the liussiai jiossessions in general on tlie north-west coast of America to 51)" 30' of north latitude wmu |iositiveB excepted from the liberty of hunlinj,', tishiiig, and commerce stipulated in favour of 'Jiiili'd StatJ citizens for ten years." The rights alluded to could not be those contained in the 1st Ailii.lu of tU Treaty, which is unlimited in duration, but those of frequenting the interior seas, harbours, and creel) conferred by Article IV. Baron Tuyl grounded this construction of tlie Treaty on the argument that " the coasts of .Sibeii are washed by tlie Sea of Okhotsk, the Sea of Kanischatka, and the Icy Sea, and not by the Soutli S mentioned in the 1st Article of the Convention," and that " the Aleuti.in Islands were also wiishedb the Sea of Kamschatka or Noitliern Ocean." He added that " it was not the intention of Itussia to impede the free navigation of the I'dcili Ocean, and that she would be satisfied with causing to be recognized, as well understood and \im beyond all manner of doubt, the principle that beyond 59* 30' no vessel could approach her coasts ai)j islands, nor fish or hunt within tlie distance of 2 marine leagues."* Mr. Adams, on being shown the draft of the note, stated to Baron Tuyl that, if it were presente he should return an answer to the effect that " the construction of Treaties depending here iijioii tU Judiciary Tribunals, the Executive Government, even if disjiosed to acquiesce in that of the Eiissiu Government, as announced by him (Baron Tuyl), could not lie [? make it] binding upon the Com or npon this nation." He went on to say that it would be much better not to present the note, i the United States' merchants would not go to trouble the llussians on the coast of Siberia or uori of the 57th degree of latitude, and it was wisest not to put such fancies into their heads. The iiiciilent, therefore, siiows nothing material to the present is.siie ex'ce])t that the liussiai Jlinister attempted in a note, which has hitherto been kejit secret, to ar<,'ue that Belirin^j's Seav not a part of the South Sea (a term which is not employed in the I?ritisli Ti(?aty), and that Mr. Adam stated tliat, even if the United States' Oovernment were dispo.se(l to ac<|uiesce in this view, thej could not bind tiie nation or ilie Courts to it. On the other hand, the Begulations of 1881, under which the American schooners "Eliza " " Henrietta ' were seized by the Tfussian autliorities, are headed : — " Notice of Order relative to Commerce on Uussian Pacijir ViKtst : — "Without a special permit or licence from the (Jovernor-Oeneral of Eastern Siberia, foreign vessel arc not allowed to carry on trading, hunting, fisliing, &c.,'(iii the ]\ussian coasts or islands in tlif Okhotsk and Behring's Seas, or on the north-eastern coast of Asia, or within their sea bouiidar}'-lir.e. (Memorandum in ]\fr. J.othrop's des])atch to Mr. Bayard of the 7th March, 1882. Exec. ' No. 100, 50th Congress, 2iid Session, p. 271.) M. de Giers, in his subsequent note of the 8th May, 1882, speaks of these Eegulations as " a notitl published by our (.'onsul at Yokohama relative to fishing, hunting, and to trade in the Russian wattJ of the Pacific." (Had., p. 262.) Mr. Frelinghuysen also speaks of the matter as "touching the Pacific coast flsherieil (Ibid., p. 258.) . '7 • U does not appcw, however, (nut tnc proposfd limit oi i leaRUes waa obaened or enforced, for in 1868 (lie Russian lliniild for Foreign Affaira, eipliininR the trestment of tlio American sealer "Java " iu tlio Sea of Okbotak, writes ;— . i i " Conaiilering tliat foreign sealers arc forbidden by the laws in force to fisli in the Russian golfs and bays at a distancolil than S miles from the ahorc." (M. Wcatmann to Mr. Clay, Slat July, 1868, Ei. Doc. No. 106, 40th Congrcia, 2nd S«W * 363.) voibindend. viiincliatkii. N'or» rucifcOceJ TStOdd at- ilie time i ,vas jiresuntetl liv tij h (17th) April, "1821 )CTia, niid tlie liussiaj .titudo wtire iiositivel our of IJnili'il StatJ tlic 1st Article of tU harbours, and creej " the coasts of Siberj not by the South s were also waahed n'gation of tlie I'acif indcrstood and \i .. pproach liur coasts aol t, if it Were presents aondiiig here ufion t in that of the Eii tiding upon the Com. o present tlie note, a 1st of Siberia or uort r heads. 3C.]it that the llussiai liat Belirinji's Sea\ ), and that Mr ce in this view, thsj ^hooners " Eliza " aal w V m •Siberia, foreign vessel [tsts or islands in tkf ■ sea boundar)'-lir,i :h, 1882. Exec. gnlations ns " a noticj in tlie Piussian wateJ cifiu const iisherieil 1 1868 (lie Russian Miniil^ 8: — and bays at a di.<Uiicc It 0th Congrcsi, 2nd Sniit* « s a SI. 8.? -^ g. •-^ BE [0.-68I UNITED STATES. No. 2 (1891). FURTHER CORRESPONDENCE BESFECTIN'O THE BEHRING SEA SEAL FISHERIES. [In continuation of "United States No. 1 (1891) :" C. 6253.] Presented to both Houses of Parliament by Command of Her Majesty. June 1891. LONDON: T-IUNTED FOR HER MAJESTY'S STATIONERY OFFICE BY HARRISON AND SONS, ST. MARTIN'S LANE, FRINnil* IN ORDINARY TO HUl HAJUTT. Kr: y> id to be purehued, either dinctly or through any BoolucUer, from ?-y. At It SPOTTISWOOOE, Ea8t Harding Strut, Flrct Strut, E.Ci, and 32, Abinodon Strikt, Westminstir, S.W. ; or JOHN MENZIES & Co., 12, Hanover Street, EDDtBURSB, and 88 tc 90, We>t Nile Strirt, Glaioowi or HODGES, PIOOIS, AMD Co., 104, Oraron Strut, Ddbuk. [C.-6868.] Prieted. n , "I 1 i\ f ^, IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) /y 1.0 I.I 1.25 fcilM |2.5 |jo ^^ ■■!■ U£ 1^ |2.2 I y£ 12.0 I V] 7F/ -y / -^ ''W '/ Photographic Sciences Corporation v iV 'iS ^\ % "v ^:V^ !13 WEST MAIN iTREET wBisn ,'*.r. i4580 (7U) •77-4l'03 ,<l^ ^ 6^ -rr>'!> >.<• M'wi jiiiifiHiivi^BP««i|isiivyH^i9qM;i^^^i^n^«^ni^npi«iqHPPRimi|aHf»ipi^^ TABLE OF CONTENTS. No. Name. 9 10 11 13 13 14 15 16 17 To Sir J. Pauncelble. Sir J. Pauncofuto , . II ,y •• M » i» •• I To Sir J. Fauncefote, . Sir J, Pauncefoto .. To Sir J. Pauncefote. . Sir J. Pauncefote ., fl 91 . < )• II . • Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic • • Telegraphic Telegraphic Date. 18 To Sir J. Pauncefote.. Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic i'clegraphie Telegraphic Apr. 17, 1891 33, 23. 37, May 5, Apr. 37, May 10, 10. 4, 6, 10, 20, 21, 22, 25, 07, 28, Subject. Page Mr. Dlaine'i suggestion for slopping ',f,\. fishing by land and sea pending aw,ir(' of arbitration seems worthy of considcra.ioii. Would he prefer that proposal should cnmo from Her Majesly'i (lovcrninent ? Mr. Blaine absont. On his return, will press liim to give answer with .is little delay as possible .. .. ., ,, Mr. Blaine prefers that proposal should cnmo from Her Majesty's Oorernment. 1 1? wishes to consult President .. .. ,, President suggests reservation in proposed nodui Vivendi, allowing American Company to kilt enough seals to support natives, Mr. Blaine will not agree to arrangement being put in force till ternii of arbitration are settled . . . . . . Is sending by mail note from Mr. niaiiie justifying reservation made by President, and submitting detailed proposal for modm tivendi. Gives latter . . . . Reports communications with .Mr. Blaine on proposal for modus vivendi and President's re!>ervation . . . . , . Is sending by mail teiit of professor Elliott's Keport on seal-life in Behring'i bea, in which stress is laid on necessity ror cessation of seal-killing. Importance of early reply to Mr. Blaine's proposal .. Gives Memorandum received from triistwortliy source on President's reservation in pro- posed modus tietndi . . . . Detailed account of communications with .Mr, Blaine witli regard to proposed modus vivendi .. .. .. ., Copy of note from Mr. Blaine containing detailed proposikli for modut vitendi, and defending President's reserration . Copy of reply to Mr. Blaine's above note Will reply to his telegram as soon as Canadian Government have answered further commu- nication addressed to them . . President anxious for reply to Mr. Blaine's proposal of 4lh May. When may decision of iler Mojesly's Government be ejpecteil ? No definitive reply yet received from Canada with regard to proposed moduf vivendi Mr. Blaine's pro))osal involves some loss of revenue to the United State*' Government, as well as considerable loss to American Com|uny ., .. .. President much concerned at not havin^r received reply from He; Majesty' Govern- ment, United States' Goveinnient cannot detain cruizers or Company's vessels nny longer Note received from Acting Secretary of State to the same effect as communication reported in above. Itevenue steamer " Rush " lins started for seal islands. " Corwen " will very shortly start, but she could still take orders if agreement i* arrived at before licr departure ,, .. .. Bill to be introduced in Parliament, giving Her Majesty's Oovernment powers for prohibiting leal-fisliing in Behring's Sea. Her Majesty's Oovernment can do nothing till Bill is passed to ID 10 APPENDIX. 1 Sir J. Pauncefote .. • « Feb. 30, 1891 Reports of United States' Treasury Agents on affairs in seal islands, and fur-ieal fisheries In 1890 n 2 •f n •• .. May 11, Introduction to Profeiior Elliott's Ileport nn orndition of teaMlfe at tbe Pribyloff Islands in summer of 1890 ,, ., .. a . II.". Juvn •;t further Correspondence respecting the Behring Sea Seal Fisheries. The Marquis of SulMury to Sir J. Puuncefote. (Telcijraphic.) Foreign Office, April 17, 1891. HEUllING'S SEA. Mr. Blaine's suggostion, whiirh you moution in your private It'tti'i" of the 7th April, tlmt, pending the award of the Arbitration on tlie Bcbring's Sea (jucstion, all seal tishcry should bu stopped, 1)oth by sea and land, seems worthy of consideration. If wc appi-ovc of it, would Mr. Blaine prefer that the pro^rasiii should como from lis ?,,,,, . . .1-, ■. .: . No. 2. .. Hir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received April 22.) (Tolographic.) Washington, April 22, 1891. I HAVE the honour to inform your Lordship that Mr. Blaine left this eity for tlic sua-side on the 15th. As the date of his return was uncertain, I addressed a letter to Jiim on the 2ntli in the sense of your Lordship's telegram of the 17th, making the inquiry which I was therein instructed to make. I am now informed that his return is expected in a few days. I am informed that it is in the power "of the United States'" Government to eaiici'l the lease of the islands at any time. 1 M'lll lose no time in pressing Mr. Blaine to send mo an answer with as little (k'luy as possible. I -. . , , ,-..- . . , , No. 3. . Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of SaHsbwy, ^Received April 23.) (Telegraphic.) Washiiiyii^i, April 23, 1891. I HAVE the honour to ropolft that th* Stictctary of Stite tfetutaed to Washington to-day, and invited me to call on him. He expressed himself as gratified at the farotit|ll)te cOhsidoTation given by Her Majesty's Government to his alternative sU^gertiOii, :anfl in ansKrer to yptir Lordship's Inquiry he sftid he \fottld ptefer that the ph>iiOl!ial, iMch Seemed to him Very fair, «liould cotne ttom. Her M«^esty*s Gorernmetit. ' He added that ho wished, ho'^FOver, before going any further, to (ioiumunioate the proposal by telegraph to-day to the President, wno is absent ftrom Whshlngtott. If ■balk ■riMttUMMa [805] B8 r'ljf.r-, ■J.!!N"I' : |!' No. 4. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquui of Salisbury.'— (Received April 27.) (Telegraphic.) IVashington, April 27, 1891. MB. BLAINE informed me to-day that the President liad sufcgcsted a small reservation in the proposed modus vivendi to the e£Fect that permission should be given to the Company to kill a small number of seals sufficient to compensate them for the BUj^port of the natives in their employ during the modus vivendi, but he did not appear to insist strongly on it. As, however, he will not agree to put the arrangement in force until the terms of the arbitration are settled, I fear it may only be applied when it is too late to bo of any service. A full report of the interview above mentioned will be found in my dcspatcli of this day's date, which I am sending by mail to-morrow. No. 5. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received May 5.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, May 6, 1891. BEHRINO'S SEA. With reference to my telegram of the 27th ultimo. I have the honour to inform your Ijordship that I forward by messenger to-day copy of a note from Mr. Blaine which I received last night, containing a lengthy justification the reservation of made by the President, and submitting for communication to your Lordship the following detailed proposal for a modus vivendi for the season of 1891 : — 1. The United Slates' authorities to issue orders limiting the number of seals to be killed on the islands to 7,600, solely in order to provide for the support of the resident natives, who number .300 souls. Pending the result of the arbitration, all seal-killing for commercial purposes to be prohibited. 2. The United Slates Government to guarantee to Great Britain that no scab shall be killed in any part of the open waters of Behring's Sea by an^ person on board of any vessel flying the United States' flag, or by any United States' citizen on board of any vessel flying any other flag. 3. Mutatis mutandis, a similar guarantee to be given by Her Miyesty's Government as regards British subjects and vessels. 4. The above prohibitions to continue in force up to the 1st May, 1892, before which date the Arbitrators are to render to both Governments their final award. No. 6. ;8itr J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury.'— (Received May 6.) My Lord, Washington, April 27, 1891. WITH reference to my telegram of the 22nd instant, I have the honour to inclose a copy of the note which I addressed to Mr. Blaine, as reported in my above- mentioned telegram, informing him that your Lordship was disposed favourably to entertain his aitemative suggestion for a modus vivendi pending the result of tk Behring's Sea arbitration, namely, to stop all sealing, both at sea and on bnd, and inquiring whether, in case the proposal be finally accepted, he would prefer that it should be made by Her Majeatirs Government. In my telegram of the 28rd instant I had the honour to report to your Lord- ship the verbal reply which I had received from Mr. Blaine to that communica> tion. It was to the effect that he would prefer that the proposal should come from Her Mi^esly's Goyemment, but that before taking any further step he desired to communicate by telegraph with the President, who was absent from Washington. 1 called to-dav on Mr. Blaine to inquire whether he was now prepared to nroceed with the propoeu. He informed mo that the President felt some difficulty arising from the fact that the lessees of the Pribyloff Islands are under contract to maintain a large number of natives (Aleuts) engi^ed in their seaUag operations, and these they woiud 3 11 hare to support at a heavy loss during the whole period of the modus vivendi. This loss would ultimately fall on the United States' Govcrnniont, and ho had, therefore, sucrfrestod whcthcr it might not be stipulated that a moderate number of seals might be kill'^ on the islands, sufficient to cover the loss in question. I replied that I did not think such a suggestion would commend itself to your Lordship. The proposal thnt scaling should be stopped, both at sea and on land, was based on the recommenda- tion of the United States' Government Agents, whoso Reports had been laid before CongresH, and copies of which I transmitted to your Lordsliip in my despatch No. 41 of the 20th February last. In acceding to tho proposal, Her Majesty's Government would give a striking iiroof of their solicitude for tho preservation of the seal species, and of the spirit of concilintion with which they were animated. There was to be an equal sacrifice on both sides, and it would be unreasonable that tho proposed modus vivendi should bo saddled with any special reservation for the Insnefit of either party. I further observed that, in view of tho fact that the opening of the fishery season is already at hand, no time should be lost in putting it into force, if it is to be of any raluo this season. 1 8ug;gested that it miglit be agreed to put it in foroe for this season, irrespectively of tbo arbitration, and that in such case it would 1)o a convenient time to send a Joint Commission of Experts to the islands to collect evidence for the purposes of arbitra- tion. I failed to perceive how any Arbitrators would undertake to pronounce an award on the question of a close time wi\.hout proper materials on which to found their judgment, and these materials could alone be supplied by a Joint Commission. I added that I had no authority from your Lordship to make such a suggestion, but that r ventured to throw it out for consideration. Mr. Blaine replied that, as regards the reservation of the right to kill a limited number of seals on the islands to cover the loss which would result to the Company for the support of the Aleuts in their employ, thnt was a condition which might perhaps n^t be insisted on; but he was absolutely opposed to the suggestion of sending a Joint commission of Experts to Behring's Sea, or to putting in force the modus vivendi until the terms of the arbitration had been (Icflnitely agreed to. I pointed out that if this M'crc to be a condition of the arrangement, it would lirobably be too late to put it in force this season, in view of the time which might elapse before the preliminaries of the arbitration had been settled, and I reminded him that his proposal was simply that it should take ctfcct " pending the result of tho arbitration." He replied that his proposal, as understood by the President as well as himself, was subject to that condition, and he seemed to attach importance to it as being calculated to accelerate your Lordship's acceptance of the terms of arbitration proposed by his Government. I iherefore explained to him f'lat all your Lordship knew at present resiDCcting the proposal was that it had been made by the United States' Government, obviously in their own interest, and that Her Majesty's Government had certainly nothing to gain by acceding to it. J. begged him to disabuse the mind of the President of the idea that your Loj^lship, in giving the proposal a favourable consideration, had been actuated by any other sentiment than that of friendliness to the United States' Government. I added that if owing to delay in the settlement of the terms of arbitration, the proposed modus vivendi should not be put in force this season, and the pre<lictions of the United States' Government Agents as to the consequences which must ensue from tlic non-cessation of scaling should bo verified, the blame would certainly not attach to Her Majesty's Government. 1 liave, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. u Inclosurc in No. 6, SiV J. Pauncefote io Mt. Blainet Dear Mr. Blaine, IVa^hington, April 20, 189ii I INFORMED Lofd Sulislniry in a private letter of your alternative suggestion for a modus vivendi, pending the result of tlio Behring's Sea arbitration, namely, to stop all scaling both at sea and on land. liord Salisbury seems to approve of that alteraative, and he asks whether, in case i- HI BLPHHHOH ■sr : Her Majesty's Qovemment should accept it, you vonld prefer that the proposal should come from them. I thought you would like to know Lord Salisbury's view of your proposal as soon 113 possible, and that must bo my excuse for troubling you with this letter during your repose at Virginia Bench. May I ask you to be so good as to let mc know, as soon as you conveniently can do so, what answer you would wish me to return to Lord Salisbury's inquiry. Hoping that you have already benefited by the change or air, I remain, &e. (Signed) JULLA.N PAUNCEFOTE. . No. 7. air J. Pamce/otc to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received May 10.) CTclcgraphic.) Washington, May 10, 1S91. A NEWSPAPER has just published the text of Professor Elliott's introduction to his Report oil tho condition of seal life on the Utiited States' seal islands in Behring's Sea, which ho Addressed in November last to the Secretary of the Treasury. 1 will transmit a cony to your Lordship by the mail of the 12th instant. In this Rci)ort Professor Elliott insists strongly on the necessity of tlic eossation of seal killing, l)oth on land and at sea, and on the appointment of a .Joint Cowniission of American, British, and Russian experts to proceed to the rookeries this snnnnor to verify the precise condition of affaii-s. I'he usual d.itc for the revenue-cruizers and the Company's steamer to sail is tlic 15th instant, and it is very important that I should, as early as practicable, 1)c in a position to reply to Mr. Blaine's proposal. No. 8. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury.— '{Received May 10.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, May 10, 1891. I HAVE just received, from a trustworthy authority, the following Memomudum on the subject of the reservation in the proposed modus vivendi desired by tlie President, which throws a new light on the provision in question. It is as follows: — " Food Skins. — The slaughter for food of 5,000 small seals annually on St. Piud Island, and 2,000 on St. George Island, will be amply sufficient to keep the natives of the seal islands iu good couditiou physically. Tlie profit to the United St:it(.'s' Governnient from the sale of these food skins would be not less thau 70,000 (lolial^ a-year, wliich is 20,000 dollars more thau it would cost to provide them with I'liel, clothing, and other necessaries. "To kill more than these 7,000 young male seals would be simply a wanton and uncalled-for destruction of life, and would imperil the i-estoration of the rookeries to their former condition." The Memorandum quoted above shows that it is necessary for the health ui! tlic natives to supply them with seals for food. No. 9. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury.— ^{Received May 14.) My Lord, Washington, May i, \8d\. OWING to the Comtnuhications which have passed between Mr. Blaine and the Korth American Commercial Company (the present lessees of the seal islands in BehHng's Sea) respecting the proposed cessation of the killing of seals both at sea and ou land during the approaching fishery season, the rumour has found its way in the press that such a proposal has either been made by Her Mi^esty's Government, or that they are willing to assent to it, and that Mr. Blaine is prevented from carrying it out by the vehement opposition of the Company. mm wmmm mn srani r ) health uf the It may be convenient that I should place on record what took place between Mr. Blaino and myself on the subject of his second or alternative proposal for a modus timdi, which I communicated to your Lordship privately on the 7th April last. Mr. Blaine made his flist proposal on the 16th March. He then stated that, as there now seemed to he a prospect of agreeing to tlie terms of an arbitration, it was f|eairal)lc to arrange for a modus vivtndi pending its result, and he threw out a suggestion of a ra.lius of 85 miles witliin wliicli sealing.vessels should be prohibited from approaching the seal islands. 1 acquainted your Lordship with that proposal in my telegram of the 16th March. Aliout a fortniglit afterwards, at an interview which Mr. Blaine was good enough to give me at his liousc wiicn lie was confined by indisposition, he reverted to the sul^eet of the modus vivendi, and he asked me to ascertain whether your Lordship would prefer as in alternative proposal that the icilling of seals should bo stopped both at sea and on land pending the result of the arbitration. I slioufd here observe that for some time past I had been pressing Mr. Blaine most urgently, but in vain, for a reply to your Lordship's despatch of the fist February, in which certain modifications were proposed in the questions which he bad formulated in liis note of the 17th December, 1890, for the purposes of the arbitration. The delay in returning a reply to your Lordship's despatch appeared to me disquieting, and ho ipoke somewhat despondingly in the presence of Sir Charles Tupper of the prospect of an adjiistincnt of the questions for arbitration. I therefore informed Mr. Blaine that I hesilated to transmit to your Lordship any further proposals respecting a modus vivendi until there was reason to believe that the arbitration proposals contained in your Lonisliip's despatch above referred to would be accepted ; and I suggested that the most satisfactory course would be for him to make his proposals for a modus vivendi concurrently with his reply to that despatch. Mr. Blaine assented to my suggestion, and said that he would " proceed in that order." But neither in his reply to your Lordship's despatch, which was delivered on the 14th April, nor in the substituted note delivered the 27th April, is there anything to be found in relation to a modus vivendi. In the meanwhile, I had informed your Lordship privately, by the mail of the 7th April, of Mr. Blaine's alternative proposal for the cessation of seal-killing both at sea and on land, and on receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 17th April, I addressed a note to him, of which I bad the honour to inclose a copy in my despatch of the 27th April. In that despatch I reported the difficulties which were afterwards raised by tho President and by Mr. Blaine, and which appeared to me to render hopeless the timely ipplication of the proposed modut vivendi. Since then, as before stated, the subject has been discussed in the public press. The opposition journals criticize severely the non-publication of Professor Elliott's Report on the condition of the seal islands during the season of 1890, and also the dismissal of Mr. Goff, the Treasury Agent in charge of the islands, who had last summer exercised his official authority to stop the killing of seals by the Company, owing to the indiscriminate slaughter practised tliere, and to tho alarming diminution of seal life. Mr. Blaine is violently attacked by those journals for hesitating to put in force at once the proposed modus vivendi in the face of the Reports of the United States' Govern- ment Agents, and in view of the readiness of Her Majesty's Government to accept the proposal, I have, &c. .....* ■ • * (Signed) JULIAN PAUKCKFOTE. No. 10. StV J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Beceived May 14.) My Lord, Washington, May 6, 18QI. I HAVE the honour to inclose a copy of a note which I received last night from Mr. Blaine containing detailed proposals for a modut vivendi during the approaching fishery season in Behriug's Sea, based on tho principle of a cessation of teal lulling both »t sea and on land. The note contains a lengthy defence of the reservation desirad by the President of the right to kill 7,500 seals for the rapport of the natire residents of '« I I ilj.iUl,ilUi...|iJ|J^ ^ftmfm^mmmmimi'smmmiiimim.' the Pribyloif Islands, a reservation which seems to me setioushr to detract from tiie eqnality and simplicity of the original proposal. As regards Au. Blaine's narrative of what passed between us in relation to the proposed modiu vivendi, your Lordship vU] perceive from my despatch of yesterday's date that he appears to have forgotten that the reason why I did not telegraph to your Lordship his alternative proposal for a modut Vivendi was that it had been arrpn^ed between us, at my suggestion, that he should make the proposal concurrently with his reply to your Loroship's despatch of the aist February, for which I had so urgently pressed him. I cannot call to my mind that ^he President's name was ever mentioned in the course of our two interviews, which Mr. Blaine correctly describes as " a conversational exchange of views." If the President was so anxious that the alternative proposal should be telegraphed at once to your Lordship, it is to be regretted that Mr. Blaine did not apprize me of the President's wishes, as I should have certainly complied with them. Mr. Blaine's rcplv to ^our Lordship's despatch of the 2lBt February was not delivered until the 14th April, and then it was not accompanied by the proposal for n modus vivendi. But fortunately I had informed your Lordship of the proposal by letter a few days after it was made, and I received a prompt reply by telegram which 1 com. municated to Mr. Blaine on the 20th April. Mr. Blaine, therefore, cannot justly complain of any delay on my part, or on the part of Her Majesty's Government, in relation to this matter. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 10. Mr, Blaine to Sir J. Pauneefote, Sir, Washington, May 4, 1891. DURING the month of March last, a few days after the adjournment of Congress, acting under the instructions of the President, I proposed to you that a modus vivendi be agreed upon touching the seal fisheries pending the result of arbitration of the queatioo at issue between the two Governments. The President's first proposal which I submitted to you was that no Canadian sealer should be allowed to come within a certain number of mUes of the Pribyloff Islands. It was, however, the conclusion of the President, after reading Lord Salisbury's despatch of the 2l8t February, that this modus vivendi might posciMv provoke conflict in the Behring's Sea, and to avoid that result, he instructed mo to propose that sealing, both on land and sea, should be suspended by both nations during the progress of arbi. tration, or during the season of 1891. On both occasions it was a conversational exchange of views, the first at my office at the State Department, the second at my residence. The President was so desirous of a prompt response from Lord Salisbury to his second proposition, that I ventured to suggest that you request an answer by cable if practicable. Especially was the President anxious to receive an answer, which he trusted woidd be favourable, before he should set oui on his tour to the Pacific States. He left Washington on the night of the 13th April without having heard a word from your Government. It was then a full month after he had instructed me to open negotiations on the question, and the only probable infersnce was that Lord Salisbury would not agree *o his proposal. The silence of Lord Salisbury implied, as seemed not improbable, that he would not restrain the Canadian sealers from entering Behring's Sea, and as all intelligence from British Columbia showed that the sealers were getting ready to sail in large numbers, the President found that he could not with justice prevent the lessees from taking seals on the Pribyloff Islands. The President therefore instructed the Secretary of the Treasury, who has official chaige of the subject, to issue to the lessees the privilege of killing on the Pribyloff Islands the coming season the maximum number of 60,000 seals, subject, however, to the absolute discretion an«. power of an asent appointed by the Secretary of the Treasury to limit the killing tc as small a number as the condition of the herd might, in his opinion, demand. On the 22nd April, eight days after the President had left Washingion, you notified nc when I was absent from the capital that Lnrd Salisbury was ready to agree that all lealing should be suspended pending the result of arbitration. On the 23rd April 1 telegraphed Lord Salisbury's proposition to the President. He replied on the 25th April, expressing great satisfaction at Lord Salisburv'g message, but instructin- me to inform you that "some seals must bo killed by the natives tor food ;" that ' the lessees are bound under their lease from the Government to feed and care for the natives, making it necessary to send a ship to the Pribyloff Islands at their expense ;" and that for this service — a very expensive one — the " lesse^j should find their compensation in taking a moderate number of seals under the lease." The President expressed his belief that this allowance would be readily agreed to by liord Salisbury, because the necessity is absolute. You will remember that when I communicated this proposition from the President to you on the evening of Monday, the 27th April, you did not agree to the President's suggestion. On the contrary, you expressed yourself as confident that Lord Salisbury ivould not accept it; that, in your judgment, the killing of seals must be cut off absolutely on the land and in the water ; and that it could not be stopped on cither unless stopped on both. The narrative of facts which I have now given, absolutely necessary for clearly undenitnnding the position of this Government, brings me to a further statement which I am directed by the President to submit. The President refuses to believe that Lord Salisbury could possibly maintain the position you have taken when his Lordship is placed in full possession of the facts, which I shall now submit to you somewhat in detail. When the privilege of killing seals on the Islands of St. George and St. Paul in Behring's Sea was leased to (he North American Company for a certain sum per skin to be paid to the Government, other duties of an onerous, costly, and responsible character were imposed upon the Company. Under their lease, the Company is obliged " to furnish to the inhabitants of the Islands of St. George and St. Paul annually such quantity or number of dried salmon, and such quantity of salt nnd such number of salt barrels for preserving their necessary supply of meat, as the Secretary of the Treasury shall from time to time determine." The Company is further obliged to " furnish to the inhabitants of these islands 60 tons of coal annually, and a sufficient number of comfortable dwellings in which said natives may reside, nnd shall keep such dwellings in proper repair." The Company is further obliged " to provide and keep in repair such suitable school houses as may be necessary, and shall establish and maintain during eight months of each year proper schools for the education of the children on said islands, the same to be taught by competent teachers, who shall be paid by the Company a fair compensation, all to the satisfaction of the Secretary of the Treasury." The Company is further obliged to " maintain a suitable house for religious worship, and will also provide a competent physician, or physicians, and necessary and proper medicines and medical supplies." The Company is still further obliged "to provide the necessaries of life for the nidows and orphans, aged and infirm inhabitants of said islands, who arc unable to provide for themselves." And it is finally provided that " all the foregoing agreements shall be done and performed by the Company free of all costs and charges to the said native inhabitants of said islands, or to the tlnitcd States." And it is made still further the duty of the Company " to employ the native inhabi- tants of said islands to perform such labour upon the islands as they are fitted to perform, and to pay therefor a fair and just compensation, such as may be fixed by the Secretary of the Treasury." And also the Company " agrees to contribute as far as in its power all reasonable efforts to secure the comfort, health, education, and promote the morals and civilization of said native inhabitants." In short, then, the means of living, the facilities for education, the care of health, the religious teaching, the training of the young, and the comfort of the old, in a community of over 300 persons, are all imposed upon the Company as its solemn duty by specific Articles of the lease. I inclose you a copy of Census of 1800, giving every name of the 303 persons, old and young, male and female, who constitute the whole community of the Pribyloff Islands.* * For Ineloaure, in Ineloiuro in Sir J. Pnuncefote'i despatch, doteil February 30, 1881 i Apprndis, No. 1, [2961 ^ I'i ?;■ I 11 .u wiw mrnvmom r\ I' I f. 1.. The duties tliuu imposed ii|K>n the Coniimny nuii^t bo diHclmrgcd annunlly wid, punctuaiitj and exnnlncRS. Tho comfort, possiltlv the Hnfcty, of nil llicso luininn liuinirH i)ccul)arly helpless when left tu thcmHclvcs, is JcpciKicnt upon the Compnny iiiulvrthc lease, and the lessees arc paid therefor by tho Oovernment in the ncnl-skinH which llm Oonipanjr receive for tho service. If tho Company sliall, ns you sav Lord SHJiNbury Ip^uestsi bo deprived of all privilege of taking scnU, they certninfy couM not lie- compelled to minister to the wants of these 300 inliabilant.s j'or an entire year. If tlicw idtnders are to bo left to ehnrity, the Morth Americun Company in under no ^renter obligation to extend it to them than aro other citizens of tho United States. It evidently requires a considerable sum of inonoy to furnish all the supplies hanied in tjjc lease— supplied nlnch tnust be carried 4,000 iniles on n specially cliurtorcd s|eanior. If the lessees arc not to ho allowed payment iu any form for the amount jiucessar; iu But>i)ort these dOO people on the islands, they will naturally decline to expend it. Ko A]»propriation of money has been made by Congress for the purpose, and (lie PresiScnt cannot leave these worthy and innocent people to the hazard of stuivatiun fcvcn to secure any form of Agreement with Lord Salisbury touching seal life, i^eal llff may bo valuable, but the first duty of tho (Government of tho United States in tliis matter is to protect human life. In this exigency, tho President instructs me to propose to Lord Salisbury tliat lie concede to the North American Company the right to take a sulHcient niiini).>r of seals, and no more than sutncieiit, to recoiniicnsc thcin for their outlay in iakiii;; cure of tlic natives, and that, in the phrase of tlio President, all " commercial killing of seals be |)rohibited pending tho result of arbitration." The Secretary of the Treasury has a right to fix the number necessary to the end desired. After full consideration, he has limited tho number to 7.000 to he killed by the ComiMny to repAy them for the outlay demanded for tho support of tho SCO pouplu on thd Pribylotr Islands. He furtlier directs that no females bo killed, and that thus the productive capacity of the herd shall not in the slightest degroo bo impairca. This point being tixed and agreed to, the proposed Arrangement between tlic two countries would be as follows : — The Government of the United States litnita the number of seals to be killed on the islands for purposes just described to 7,C00. The Oovernment of the United States guarantees that no seals shall be killed in the open waters of Behring's Sea by any person on any vessel si.Iling under the American iliig, or by any American citizen sailing under any other Hag. The Government of Great Britain guarantees that no seals shall be killed in tbc open waters of Behring's Sea by any person on any vessel sailing under the British llag, Itnd that no British subject shall engage in killing seals for the time agreed upon on any vessel sailing under any other flag. These prohibitions shall continue until the 1st day of May, 1802, within which time the Arbitrators shall render final award or awards to both Governuienis. These several propositions are submitted for the consideration of Lord Salisbury. Tho President believes that they aro calculated to produce a result at once fair and honourable to both Governments, and thus lead to the permanent adjustment of a controversy which has already been left too long at issue. I have, &c. (Signed) J. G. BLAINE. - ^- "— Ho. n. Sir J. Pauncefole to tfte Marquit of 8alisbur!/.~{licceived May \4,) My Lord, Washinglon, May 6, 1891. AVITII reference to my immediately preceding despatch, 1 have \hb honour to inclose herewith copy of a note which I iiave this day addressed to Mr. Blaine in answer to his communication of yesterday relative to a modus vivendi in Behring's Sea. I have, &c. , . (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. ^I^WJP rithin which time G. BLAINE. LUNCEFOTE. IncloBuro in No. 11, Sir J. Pttuncefote to Mr, Blaine, Sir, Wathinglon, May 9, 1801. I HAVE the honour to arknowlcdgo Iho receipt of your note of ycHtcnfny, in whicli jou hnvu fonnuhitcd, for the conHtilcrntion of fhc Marquin of BaliHhury, dctallod pro|>oRalH for tlie tiwduD rivendi during the approaching fiHlicry season in Duliring'H Kca on the prindiilf of a ccsHation of seal liilling both at sea and on land, < n armngemont to whicH, II I informed you in my note of t)iu 20th ultimo, hJH LordHtiip v. is dinpo^cd to give hi« firourablo consideration. I have forwarded to Lord Balishury h; this day's mail a copy of jnur note, and I have telegraphed to his Tjordship the prucisc terms 6f the proposal (itii niiicli it concludes. t much regret to find that a misconccntion has arisen as regards your complaint of itity on my part in acquainting Lord Salisbury with your second or alternative proposal for a cessation of seal killing at sea and on land, which you originally made to mo Tcrbnily. On that occasion, you may remember that I expressed somd reluotanco at tending nny further proposals to his Lordship while his despatch of the 21 si February last (submitting amendments on the questions for arbitration) remained unansworcdi and thai I suggested that it would be more satisfactory if this new proposal wore tnado (oncnrrently with your reply to that despatch, which I hoped to receive with the least possible delay. I understood you to assent to that suggestion, and to say that you would " proceed in that order." If you bad informed mo that the President for any reason desired that this iltcmntive proposal should bo telegraphed to Lord Salisbury, I need Iiardly say that I ihould have complied at once with his wishes. But I cannot call to mind that tho President's name was ever meptiopfd at our interview, which you correctly describe as " a conversational cxchdngQ of vIqw^." . . Fortunately, however, no apprcciablo loss of time occurred. I acquainted Lord Saliubury with your alternative proposal by the mail of the 7th April, ft few dayn only iflcr it was made, and I received a prompt answer by telegraph, which enabled mo to inform you by my note of the 20th April that his Lordship was disposed to consider the proposal favourably. At an interview at your residence on the 23rd April you expressed your satisfaction It Lord Salisbury's reply, and you stated that before taking any further steps you desired to communicate by telegraph with the President. At a further interview at your residence on the 27th, you informed mp thftt the President desired that the modus vivendi should contain a reservation of the fight I o kill I certain number of seals for the support of the natives of the Pribyloff tslancb. At first sight this reservation caused me some disappointment. It certainly appeared to me open to exception as detracting from the principle of equality, which was a feature of the original proposal. But I was more concerned at your stating that it never was the intention of the President or of yourself that the modus vivendi should be put in force until the terms of arbitration had been settled. This I feared would prevent tho timely application of the modus vivendi, and I so informed Lord Salisbury by telegraph on the same day. I notice with satisfaction ^at no such conditio!) is {iffixed tq youf present proposal, iltbough the reservation as to tho killing of a limited number of seals on the island is maintained. I am glad to think that there is yet time tP carrjr out for this fishery season any urangement which may promptly be agreed to, and I hope that the above explanatioit may remove the impression you appear to have formed, that there has beep any delay on my part in expediting the consideration of the modus vivendi whicli you have proposed. I remain, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCBFOTB. r285] i» 4 . n 2 !l ii !; No. la. Thf Slnr<iiii» nf Sulinbury to >ilr ./. I'liunrffolf, {Tv<\earo\}\\U\) Foiriijn Office, Mmi 1(5, |sin, AS R(N>u n« tho (Invonimciit nf Ciiiudn linrn niitwort!.! (iDiniiiuiiiiMlloii iii|itii>HHi>(| to them 1 will n'jily to your tolr^rnm. No. 13. Sir J, Paunrefote to thf ^far<|ul)l of Saliahuri/, — (Iterrired May 21, 9 a.m.) (Tologrftpliic.) irrM/iiH|//<)»». Mini 20, isiM, 1 llAVK ju«t ivooivwl a l«>tlor from tlin Actill^ 8(>«'rotnry ol* State iiiforiMiii^ mi> that i\w Pr«»8i(l«>nt M-ishcH to know (li»» iviily of I lor Mnji'Hty's tJovornmont to llu; pni. poMl matlo on Ith Mny by Mr. lUnino. In orJpr to nllay tho Prt'siiU'iit's iinxioly, I Nhnll ho ohlim'd if your Iiordsliip nw ffivn mo Homn intimntiou as to when tho dooisiou «)f Ilor Aliiji'sty's (iovoninioiil nmy be oxptH'twl. No. 11. Thr MarquiH of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncrfolr, (Toh'ttrapluc.) Forpiijn Oflirr, AAiy 2), l.si)|, No (l«*flnitivo reply h.as yot \\cc\\ r<'ooiv«Ml from Cmmihi witli rt'j^iird tn the pn)Hos«Hl tnoduH vivndi in Mehrin<j[',s Hen. No. 16. Sir J. Pttuneefole to the Marquis of Salislmry. — {Hectived Mai/ 22, fi I'.M.) (Telogniphic.) fya.sl<iiujton, May 22, 1S<)1, I OMIITED to inform your Tionlship Hint Afr. Hlninn's ])ropos!\l involvoi tdtlip Unit^nl Statos' Govprnment a loss of i-ovenuo fwm tho So.nl Compuny at the nfc of 10 (lollnra jwr skin, which nmotmts to nhout Imirsv-million dolliirs in all. In rcspoot of tho arrangomonts made for this season, the Company woiiUl also bo great losers. No. 10. f J. Pamcefott to the Marquui of Salixhuri/.— '{Received May 20, 10' l.*? a.m.) (Tclecraphio.) Washington, May 25, IROl. 1 RECEIVED ft visit to-day from the Acting Sccr(>tary of Stat<?, who caiiio, liy desire of tho President, to express his deep concern that no i'oi)ly to Mr. Hlainc's proposal had been reecivod from llor Majesty's Government. ]Jy each day's delay more detriment Avas caused to tho United States' interests. Owing to tho unprotwtcll state of the islands, and to thoir being unprovided with rations and stoivs, the United States' Govcniraent are \mablc any longiT to detjiin th(>ir cruizei*s or tho vessels of tiio Company. I begged him to assure the I'residcnt, in reply, that all possible expedition was being used by your Lordship ; but tho form of Air. Hlaine's proposal, as Avell .is the latency of the time when it was made, had given rise to grave diflleultics, sonic of which I explained to him. I told him that I hoped in n (lay or two to receive the reply, but that I would telegraph the substance of his communication to your Lordship. V^ia^ No. 17. sir J. Ihiiincfjole to tht Morquiii of Saliiihuri/,—{Kfreivftl htnu '27, 8 «'.ii.) {T('l('grrt|»lii«'.) Wunhinylnn, Stay 27, IHDl. Tlll'i AoliiiK Noon^tnry of NInto linn jiiNt writUni inn a nnto to tlio irntno olTnct nn )i{i« r<<rlml I'oiniiiuiiicatioii wliirli I r«*|KM-t(!il in niv tuloffmtn of tlio 2fiili May. )It< nddN, liowovor, (liat llio llniti'd HtntcN' (iovornnHMtt. hnvo found it nnruaRnry Ut ili«|mtcli tin* rovrniU'-HfonniiT "Hush" \n tlio UlnndN, and that tlio "Corwon ' In itmrly ti'ndy to miil at Han FninciMM), and will vory Nliortly put to nm. Hiionid an agriMMncMit, an jn'opoNod, Im> nrririHl at lioforr lior dopnrturo to limit tlio mM catcli, iiIki I'an Ntill takn appropriate ordom. (Tologrnnliio.) No. IH. The Mmifuis of tialishury to Sir J. Paunrr/otf. Foreiyn Offirf, May 2H, IflOl. I llAVJ'i to inform yon tliat to-ni^lit noticn will Ih; givVn o? a Hill Kivin^ p«)Wor Inllcr MnjcNty to proliihil for a limited tinio tho linntinf< of HoaN in lt4*lirinK*N Hen. II in liojwd tliat tlio IIoiikc of C'oniinoiiN will Hanrtion lliin Kill witliin a fnw dayfl, hut iiiiMI tlilN liaH Im'imi dcnin it in iinpoN<tililo U)v llcr MajcHtyV. (lovornmrnt to aKrco fnrmally with that of tin* United HtaloH nn to a mitlun tiivfh ' , ir U> Hond crui/.or« with inslnictionH to pnivont tho sealins^-vcHsolH from entering lUdiin 's Sea. riff u. W'' i: i Si i(i i'i I'll ;fi M I J """'WWflpiippH ipi < 12 ) Ap])oii(lix. No. 1. Sir ./. Paunixfole to the Murquin qf Salisburt/. — {lieceived Afarch '2.) My lionl, ' Waxhliujlon, Februarii 'JD, 18U1. I IIAVKj tlu> Imnoiir (o incloHo copifH of IloporlH of SihhmiiI TifiiHuij ,\(r,.|ii (1. .1, (Joir, nml AHHiHtniil. Tioiwury AkoiiIh A. W. liiivoiulor. H. H. Nolllclun, nml •I. Murray, with mToiniuui^ing dociiinontN, ooiioornin^; tlio ('ondition of niriiiiH in (lio Scui IhIuiuIh of Alnskii mul tlio fur-HonI IIhIumjoh for ISOO, 'riu'Mo KoitoriM Imvo boon (nuiHiniUrd (o llio Hoiinto 1)^ the Trcnmirv Dcimrlnunl in rosnoMHo to t\ Kosolntion of Unit l">(l.y, l>u(. yonr liortlHliip will porroivo (linl they ijoihj inohulo (lio Woport of ProfoHwor l''liio((, to wliicli rofcroiioo Ihih fro(|Hc<iitly liucii iiiiulc, whicli, up to the iircHont tinio, Iiiih lioon \>i(lihul(l from i>iil)linUioii. I am, Ike. (8i«iic«l) JULIAN rAUNOlCI'Xni-: IIIK l< I liu'losuro in No, 1. !i\iit CotujresK, 2ii<f ^V.w^on.— K.r. Doc. No, 49. Brnath, Let trr from the Art'tng Brrrrtnry of Ihr Trrnmirt/, transmittitirj, in rffponsr to a Jlrsnlulm of the Scmte, livports roncrrnintj the Condition of the teVrt/ Islands of Alaslai. Fchruarti 10, 1 8!) I, — T^oferrcd to the Committee on Commorco and ordered to be printed. l\ensurii Dcpartvirnt, Office of the Serrrlary, Sir, WdnhitKjIon, D.C.,mru(m/9,m)]. IN punsunnro of the Kosohitions of (lie Senate of the United StatcH datod tlio 10th and I'Jth ultimo rcspoofivolv. 1 Imve tlio honour to transnut herewith copies of the followiufj Koporta of Spoeial Troasury Ajjent (MinrloH .1, (3oH', and AsBistant Treasury Agents A. W. liavendor, S. K.. Nettleton, and .Tosoph Afurray, with their accompniiying doeunients, conoernina: tl>e condition of atVnirs in tlio Seal iHlanda of Alaska, and rolnting to the fur-seal !is>heriea for the year 1890, kc, viz. ; — 1. lioltor of Charles ,1. Gofl', dated July 31, 1890, submitting Annual Keporl, with the following inclosures : — (A.) A^lnual Report. 18!)0, dated .Tuly 31, 18J)0. (1^.) Report of Joseph Marray, dated July 31, 1890. (C.) Report of A. W. Lavender, Assistant, Treasury Agent, doted July 2rt, ISOO. (D.) Statement of seals killed for year ended July 20, 1890, on St. IVil Isliind. (K.) Statement of seals killed for year ended July 20, 1890, on St. George Islniul. (V.) Statement of seals killed for food on St. Paul Island during the year cmlcd May 21, 1890. (G.) Statement of seals killed in 1889 on St. Paul Island by the Alaska Commercial ComiMiny, and by the North American Commercial Company in 1890 ; also daily Weather Report. (H.) Statement of skins accepted on Seal Islands from 1870 te 1890. (I.) Statement of liabilities of North American Commercial Company to natives of St. Paul Island to August 1, 1890. w^^ ■7P""»5«»^iH» ^■■ii",4 II mijjfiui* iiw< i>»p.» »niii,!i,u 'wi '■WA nlcrcd to l)o 18 (J.) Account current of North Amcricftn Oommcrclttl Company with TTnitcd Btatcn on Miind of fit. I'nul, IHUO. (K.) Account current of Nortli Atnoricnn Commercial ('ompany with United Htntcn onlHliuulofHt. (ioorKO, IH!((>. (li.) OonNUN ofHt. J'nul iHland, AlnHka, July »1. 1B1)0. (M.) OcnAUH of Ht. (icorgo iHlaiul, .(idy at, IHDU. (N.) Htntonicnt of n('(!OiititH triitmrirrrod to tlio Nortli American Commorcia Comitimy l>y tho AIuhIui Comim-rcial (!oiii|miiy lor nativuK of St. (Jcorj^c, May 24, IH90 [JhI of uccountH (liiu native > of Ht. ({(Mir^u iHland by North Amoriciin (Jommcrctnl Compmiy. ((>.) UccoiptH oi' AgcntH Lavondcr and Murray, AuKimt U and 11, IH'JO, for HoalH fiiippctl from iHlandN, (I'.) i'rotoHt of (Icorgo U. Tingle, Hupcrintondunt of North American (/'ommcrcial Oompany, ngnimit closing HoaHon, July 20, 1«90, and reply of OharlcH .J. Golf, 'rreiwury Aeetit (Q.) Btatometit of Nlcinit taken on Ht. raulJHland from 1B70 to 1890 by Alaska Commercial (lomiiany ; also HcalH killed for food for nativcN, ike. 2. Itoport ol H. H. Nettleton, AHHiHtant Trcamiry Agent, July 81, 1890, of alfairn on gt,Paul iHland, 1800. n. Ilonort of A. W, Iiiivcndcr, AHHiHtant 'I'reaHury Agent, of August 25, 1890, of lilkirs on Ht. Oeorgo fHland, IRUO. 4. Ilcport of A. W. Ijavoiider, AHHiHtant TreaHury Agent, October 24, 1890. 6, Koport of A. W, l<aventler, AHHiHtant 'I'reaHury Agent, October 80, 1890. 0, Keport of A. W. Lavender, AnHintant 'I'reaHury Agent, March 10, 1890, as to scliooiierH Noixed by tho (Jovcrnmont fr«)m 18H(] to 1889, their condition, &c. KuHpectfully yours, ' (Signed) A. \i. NETTLETON, Acting Hecrctary. Tjio TrcHidont of tho Senate, AVaHhIngton, D.O. I, Letter of Charlen J. Qoff", submillttKj Annual Report. Sir, . 8l. Paul Itland, Alnskn, July HI, IHW. I liorowith rcti|)cclfully mibtnit mv Annual Report of the condition of the ft'ial Gsiicrie3 ior tho year IHOO. AIho hucIi tabulated Htatemunts and cummuuicationH an ulioutJ bo in the handH of tho Department, a» follows : — lalann (A.) My annual written Koport. (H.) Mr. Joseph Murray, First AssiHtant Treasury Agent's Report, Ht, George ({).) Mr. A. W. Lavender, AsHintant Treasury Agent's Report, Ht. George Island. (I).) Htatemcnt of Ht. Paul Island daily killing. (!<),) Htatemcnt of Ht, George Island daily killing. (F.) Htatctnent of fur-seals killed for food upon Ht. Paul and Ht. Georgo Islands, and dlBposition of tho skins. Hi.) Tablo comparing daily killing of 1880 with that of 1890, also giving daily Wcatlicr Report for each year. (li.) Table showing tho beginning of each scaling season on the islands from 1870 to 1890 inclusive, and number of fur-seals accepted by the lessees up to July 20 of each year. (I.) Hhowing tho distribution of natives' earnings for season of 1889 and 1890; also amount transforrcd by the Alaska Commercial Company to the North American Commercial (jompany, and tho amount to the credit of the natives in the hands of the North American Commer iial Company, August 1, 1890, and my instructions to fcprbHcntativcii of the Alaska and North American Commercial Comimny. ('I.) Account current Ht. Paul Island. (K.) Account current St. George Island. (L.) Cenfiua St. l^aul Island. » (M.) Census St. George Island. the (N.) Distribution of natives' earnings Ht. George Island. (0.) Si ~ • Steamer "Arago," Captain II. C. Thomas, receipts for season's eatcli of fur- ieals,1890. (P.) Mr. Georgo R. Tingle's communication protesting against the order stopping tU killing of seals, July 20, and my reply. I , Ti fi:- « •■ ■•'• ui: .*r'.| "PpwPPPBW^Pipw^Wi^ il 14 (Q.) Tftblo Bhowing tlio number of seals killed bjr the Alaska Commcn-inl ()oiii|miiy yearly, for the twcnly vcars of their lease. The distribution of the natives' carningH for same jwriodi &c., for Ibc Islands of St. Paul and St. (}corf;e. RcspecttHlly yours, (Signed) CIIAllLKS J. OOFK, lyeatury Agtnl in chnrije of the Seal Pinheriet, Hon. William Windom, Bocrotary of tho Treasury, Wasbington, D.O. (A.)— Annual Report, 1800. Sir, St. Paul hhi'ul, AlaHka, July 31, 1800. Pursuant to instructions, t sailed from San Francisco on tlic Otii Moy on tlic North American Commercial Company's steamer "Arago," accompanied by Mr. A. W. Lavender, Assistant Treasury Agent, wbo, after bis arrival, was stationed upon St. (ieor^o JHlami to assist Mr. Joseph Murray in the discharge of his duties during the kiilin-; Hcason, and wbo will hove charge of the island during the coming winter. We nrrived at Ounalaska on tho 18th May, and on the 20th Mr. (ilcorgo U. Tingle, Mr. Rudolph Newman, and myself sailed on the Alaska ConuncrcinI Company's steamer "Dora' for ilic Seal Islands, to take an inventory of the property on St. George and St. Pai I, beionginff to the Alaska Conmiercial Company, according to an Aj^reement signed by and between the Alaska Commercial Company and the North American Commercial Company on tlic 12th March, 1890. The Alaska Commercial ComiMiny was represented by Mr. Newman, and the North American Commercial Company by Mr. Tingle, and I acted as Umpire, as per your instructions, bearing date the lOth April, 189U. Wo arrived at St. I'aul Island on the '2l8t May, and immediately commenced to take stock. After several days' labour the business was well in band, and wt proceeded to St. (Seorge Island per steamer " Dora," and made a complete inspection and inventory of all the pioperty there belonging to the Alaska Commercial Company. After our return to St. Paul theio was one diirercncc referred to mo, and satisfactorily adjusted, then the entire business was settled hy the representatives of their respective Companies. Tho following property was transferred to the North American Coininercial Company : sixty-three native houses on St. Paul and nincteon upon St. George, and upon both islands all buildings and other property belonging to tiic Alaska Comiuercial Company. Upon St. Paul Island the sum of (),31S dol. 58 c. belonging to the natives and deposited with the Alaska Commercial Company was passed to the North American Commercial Company with the consent of the natives, and credited to their "pass book" accounts. Also several special individual deposits amounting to 12,117 dol. 2 c, drawing interest at 4 per cent, per annum, leaving in the hands of the Alaska Commercial Company 3,404 dol. '.)() c. t) the credit of Mrs. Alexander MilevcdoiF, who did not wish to make a change. On St. George 0,301 dol. 17 c. was transferred to the North American Commercial Company, >ut from this amount the sum of 1,700 dollars, belonging to the priest, must bo deducted, leaving a balance of 3,091 dol. 87 c. to the credit of the natives. The transfer was made and dated the 24tli May, 1890. The past winter was unusually mild, the sanitary condition of the village wnsgood, tlie people were blessed with good health, and they passed the time pleasantly. They were under the combined charge of Mr. S. K. Nettleton, Assistant Treasury Agent; Dr. C. A. Lutz, resident physician, and Mr. J. C, Rcdpatli, resident agent for the Alasi:a Commercial Company. With the spring came that dreaded disease to this people, pneumonia, which caused the death of three sealers ; other ailments prevalent among them carried off seven others, women and children, making a total of ten deaths since the 1st January, 1890, the date of the census, leaving at present a total population of 208. The population of St. Paul Island in 1872, as far back as the official records go, was 218. Arrivals since then, seventy-six. Had it not been for this influx of immigration the native population would have b.jn about extinct. The established rule of thoroughly cleaning the village in the sprine and fall presents a marked contrast to the condition of the place a few years ago, All uong the green sward, in front of the dwellings, which was then a depository for tilth and oi!al, the children romp and play. Gradually, too, tho people arc becoming more reconciled to cleaner methods in their dwellings, and many of them take great pride iu their personal appearance aud cleanliness. The school on this island m j mm^ "ipwi.^gti^ ^i^n*! crciftl (!(niiiiiiny 08* earningH for Seal Fisheries. July 31, 1800. ly on liic Notlli A, W. Ijavender, . (ii'orno iHland ! killinj; Bi-ason, Wo nrrivcd at lulolph Newnmn, riv' for the Seal n 1, belonji;in{5 to by and l)ct«ccn Doniiiiiny on tlic 1, and tlic North ire, ttB ncr your ul iHland on the days' labour the itcamcr " Dora," belonging to the IS one ditlcrcnce iH settled by the an Commercial at. George, and iska Gommurcial the natives and North American cir "pass book" },117 dol. 2 c., of the Alaska Milevedoff, who iin.sferrcd to the of 1,700 dollars, dol. 87 c. to the 1800. tillage wns good, casantly. They rensury Agent; agent for the ia, which caused off seven others, ', 1800, the date jtion of St. Paul vals since then, topulfttion would ho village in the a few years ago. a depository for e arc becoming hem take great this island m 10 taught by Bimoon Milevodoff, a native, who was educated in San Francisco. It wan opened on the Ist September, 1HH1), nnd closed Ist May, 1800— totol number of school jiyg, 172: number taught, UO. Mr, Milovodoft' was oncrgcti<r and untiring in h'n u(ro''tH to advance the pupils, but thoru is very little interest taken by thorn in Knglisb speaking schools, ho that there was but little progress made. Tlic North American Commercial Company have commenced repairing tho native (hvclling-houscB, and so far have complied witii all tlic requirements of their lease. The United States' cutter the " Hear," Cnptiiin M. A. Healcy, anchored off this island on the 2flth June and left on the same day. Captain Ifealoy reported "No pirates in Hchring'a Hen." Tho "Hear " delivered to this island the boat and fixtures complete asked for Dy me from tlic Department. The Kev. Sheldon Jackson was pasKoiigcr on board tho " Bear," and came ashore and inspected the village and school- house ; ho received a copy of tho School Report, ind was well pleased with the condition in which lio found things. On the 31st July, in company with Mr. Tingle and Professor Klliott, I visited Otter iiland, and found, to uiy surprise, that tlierc were no seals hauled out, as was usual in the past. The United States* cutter " Uiclinrd Unsh," Captain W. C. Coulson, arrived hero on the I7th July, nnd reported " no pirates in Mehring's Hca." Professor H. W. Elliott, jour ri'cent appointee as Treasury Agent, hns spent tho season hero, dividing his time between tho two islands, and giving his entire Attention to the state of the rookeries and the methods used at present in driving and kiiiing the seals, and his Report will, no doubt, bcoftiie utmost importance, and of great vnliio to tlic Department. Mr. Willinin Palmer, a roprcsentativo of the Smithsonian Institution, has, by your permission, spent the scasim on St. Paul collecting specimens of various birds and animals. ind his incesHant labours have been abundunlly reworded. The niorclmntablo seal-skins in the salt houses on St. Paul and St. George Islands, liken from the seals killed for too I for the natives during the winter of 1889-90, will be shipped ns per instructions herring date tlio ;'tl' May, per United States' cutter " Richard Rush," Captain W. C. Coulson coniinanding, which will leave hero early in September, consigned to tho Collector of Cnsloins at Sim i'Vancisco. Tlic matter will be reported directly to you by Mr. Joseph Miirniy, who has charge of St. Paul Island for tho com'ng fintcr. The accompanying coniiniinications from the rc|)resentativcs of the Alasii.; Commercial Company and the Norlh American Commercial Company will fully explain my actions in the matter. The total number of fur-seals killed and accepted upon this island by the lessees was iri,8S0. and the total amount eiinied by the natives and distributed to tbcin was 1 6,783 dol. 30 c. Your instruction'* to mc upon the subject of dividing the earnings of the I natives, and looking after their wfllaro financially, I endeavoured to follow, but was preTcnted from doing so by Mr. George R. Tingle, general manager for the lessees. ~) reasons for so doing arc inelosod. I regret that I am compelled lo report that the seals are rapidly diminishing in I Dombcrs, and to such an alarming extent that to check the decrease will require, in my I opinion, the most careful consideration of the Department. To have a correct understanding of how the annual catch is taken, it will be I Dccessary to bear in mind the following facts : (1) Ry the Acts of Congress governing the Kal fisheries the season (^ ens on the Ist June and closes on the 31st July, unless otherwise restricted by the Secretary of tlie Treasury. (2) The bull seols arrive at the island between the ist May and the 10th June, and the cows between the 10th June and the 10th July. ^3) The large young seaU, whose skins are merchantable, commence coming ibout the miadle of May, gradually increasing in numbers as the cows appear, and with the large young seals come a small poition of the pn|)S born the summer before ; but the {reatest majority of the yearlings put in their appearance in the month of July. Now, in opening the season it is customary to secure all the two-year-olds and upwards possible before the yearlings begin to fill up the hauling-grounds and mix with the killable seals. I By so doing it is much easier to do the work, and the yearlings are not tortured by being I driven and rcdriven to the killing-grounds, lleretotorc it was seldom that more than 1 16 per cent, of all the seals driven the latter part of June and the first few days in July Itere too small to be killed, but this ucasoii the case was reversed, and in many instances 180 to 85 per cent, were turned away. The accompanying percentage examples will show Ithe disposition of this year's drive. The first killing of fur-seals by the lessees was oil |tlie 6th June, and the scarcity of killable seals was apparent to all. The reason closed on the 20th July, and tho drives in July show a decided increase in [29)] D i: 'i um i,lf<i«niiniiiiM(i. I III! iijinin n«impam[([|ipg^9«.>^"<«.>w<> i m i, iii!jiiiiiijiniijiiiuiimiu«,;.piuuiiw^?inwnv^^vmi^^ 16 tlie percentages of small seals turned away, and a decrease in the killables over the drirex of jime, demonstrating conclusively that there were but few killable seals arririni; and that the larger part of those returning to the islands were the pups of last year. The average daily killing for the season was 400, or a daily average of 522 indudini; only the days worked. In 1889 the average daily killing from the 1st June to the 20th July inclusire was 1,010, or a daily average of 1,974 including onlpr the days worked. With this undeniable decrease in merchantable seals, and knowmg the imjraverished condition of tlic rookeries and hauIing>grounds, and believing it to be inimical to the best intcrtslg of the Government to extend the time for killing beyond the 20th July, I adhered to the letter and spirit of your instructions to me, and closed the killing season on the 20th July, against the bitter protestations of Mr. George R. Tingle, General Manager for the lessees ; his communication to me upon the subject and my reply are inclosed. Had there been a reasonable probability of the lessees securing their quota of 60,000 seals, I should have deemed it my duty to extend the time for killing to the Slst July, The killing of the 6th June, the first of the season, was from the Reef Rookery, with drive of about 700 seals : the total killed, 116, 83^ per cent, being turned away as tou small. On the llth June, the drive was from the Reef Rookery, about 1,000: total killed, 674, 42A per cent, turned away. On the 24th June the drive was from the Reef Rookery and Zoltoi hauling-grounds combined, aiid about 1^417 were driven : total killed, 206, 85| per cent, turned away. This exhausted Zoltoi hauling-grounds for a period of twenty-one days, and it was not available until the 19th July, when again, in connection with the Reef Rookery, the last drive was made, and about 3,956 seals were driven, 666 were killed, and 86 per cent, turned away. The seals turned away from the ricveral drives invariably returned to the hauling-grounds and rookery from which thev were driven only to be rcdriven to the killing-field and culled of the few killables that chanced to join them upon their return to the sea from each drive. By referring to the Table marked (D), showing the daily killing for this year, and also comparing the same with that of last year, you will see that from all of the drives the same percentages were turned away as from those I have cited. We opened the season by a drive from the Reef Rookery, and turned away S^ per cent., when we should have turned away about 16 per cent, of the seals driven, and we closed the season by turning away 86 per cent., a fact which proves to every impartial nind that we were redriving the yearlings, and considering the number of skins obtained that it was impossible to secure the number allowed by the lease, that we were merely torturing the young seal , injuring the future life and vitality of the breeding rookeries to the detriment of the lessees, natives, and the Oovemment. On Sunday, 20th July, all the rookeries presenting any male seals were driven from English Bay, Middle Hill, Tolstoi, Lukau ion, Keetavia, and Rocky Point, and about 4,620 seals were brought to the killing field ; 780 were killed, and 83 per cent, were turned away. On the same day at North-east Point they killed 466, which, added to those token at the other rookeries, makes a grand total of 1 ,246. Thit , and the killing on the ] 9th July, are the only instances recorded during the season wiien the daily killing reached 1,000. Comparing the killings with those of the same dates last year, we find that on the 19th July, 1889, from South-west Bay hauling-grounds alone, 1,987 were killed, and on the 20th July, 1889, from the Kcet Rookery and Zoltoi hauling-grounds 1,913 wore killed, and never were there such percentages turned away during the entire season nor in any previous season, toi my knomedge, as in that of 1890. It I true, however, that the Alaska Commercial | Company could and did take smaller seals last season than the present lessees can take, because of the ditf'crcnces in the tax paidby them, yet there have been no two-year-oiu: of an average size turned away this season, they were all immediately clubbed to swell the season's catch, which is far below the number allowed for this year, a condition of affairs that will convey to the Department in laiiguage far more convincing than mine the fact | that the seals are not here. The North American Commercial Company's agent, Mr. George R. Tingle, used I every effort to have the drives made so as to have no tmnecessary loss of seal life, and he I would have made the season a most successful one for the Company if the seals I had returned to the rookeries as in the past. It is evident that the many preying evils upon seal life — the killing of the seals in I the Pacific Ocean along the Aleutian Islands, and as they come through the passes I to the Behring's Sea, by the pirates in these waters, and the indiscriminate slaughterl upon the islands, regar^ess of the future life of the breeding rookeries, have at last witli| their combined destructive power reduced these rookeries to their present impoveriBhcdl ^ :y HMiPRIipiWVPP 17 (ondition, and to such an unequal distribution of ages and sexes, that it is but a questioh of a few years, unless immediately attended to, before the seal family of the Pribylbv g^oup of islands will be a thing of the past. Notwithstanding the fact that thd'seals were looked upon as inexhaustible, and were officially reported to bo increasing atriate M 1888, the time has suddenly come when experiment and imagination must cease, 'and the truth be told. Absolute protection is the only safeguard for the rookeries, and the only step to be taken with safety. The seal meat necessary for the natives' food is all that should be killed under existing circumstances. Much can be written on this subject, many theories may be adraaced, all of which we have had for the past twenty years, to the evident loss of seal life ; but the facts presented in the accompanying Tables demonstrate with mathematical certainty the fearful decrease of the seals ; and here I will say I heartily concur with my worthy predecessor, Mr. Qeorge R. Tingle, who, in his official Beport of 1887, used the following language :— ^ "The Department cannot place too high an estimate on the value of thin setil property, and the Government, I am sure, will not yield to any demands which would make it possible to accomplish the destruction of her seal rookeries and seal life, which under judicious management and protection by law may be perpetuated indefinitely." There is but one authority upon seal life, especially the seals of the Pribylov Islands, und this is the work of Professor Henry W. Elliott, who surveyed these rookeries in 1872 and 1874, and his work was verified by Lieutenant Maynard, and I am satisfied was as near correct when made as was possible for man to chronicle, but to-day there is a marked contrast in the condition of now and then. On p. 5i of the Professor's monograph you will find he places the number of seals upon North-east Point Bookery at 1,200,000. Standing on a prominent elevation known as " Hutchinson's HiU," in the month of July, and facing the north, I had before me a sea margin of over 2 miles } turning and facing the south I had a sea margin of over 1 mile. I could view entire this once famous rookery, and it was simply impossible to realize there was ever such a moving mass of living animals as Professor Elliott describes ; his estimate seems incredible. Yd his writings have never been refuted. To-day there is not to be seen over 250,000 seals of all ages and sexes. To the extreme south-west of the island is the Reef Rookery, reported to have (by Professor Elliott) 301,000 seals in 1874 It has not over 100,000 seals to-day. "Qarbotch," the adjoining rookery, where the Professor says he stood on Old John Rock and saw " 10,000 fighting bulls, I can stand and count every bull in sight. This rookery with the reef is an extending point ruiming out into the sea. sloping east and west with a large surface of tableland in the centre. This was once a parading or playing ground where the seals met as they came from the cast and west sides ; it was the resort of over !.'0O,OOO seals, now the resting-place for a few cows and pups and now and then a worn* out sleeping bull. The number now visiting these rookeries (the Reef and Garbotch) find ample room on the two slopes, without pushing back on the plateau above. Zoltoi Sands, once a favourite hauling-ground for the bachelor seals, from where thousands have been driven and killed for their skins, is entirely deserted, only, however, a short time in advance of all the Jiauling-grounds and rookeries, if immediate steps are not taken by the Department to nva^i^e and protect these rookeries. Tukannan, a rookery on the east side of the island, between the Reef and Polavania, the most picturesque seal grounds of them all, where the seals were wont to haul upon the cliffs and in the interstices between the rugged rocks for over half-a-mile on the sea frontage, a most inviting home for this mysterious pelagic family, where, in connection with Keetavia Rookery, with the same sea range, there were 335,000 of these animals, presents at nresent to the most carefui estimate not over 75,000 seals. Polavania Rookery, with 4,000 feet of sea margin, with a seal life of 300,000 in 1874 ; Tolstoi Rookery, with 3,000 feet of sea margin, with 225,000 seals in 1874 ; and Zapodinc, with 6,880 feet of sea margin, with 441,000 seals in 1874, all present a most deplorable condition, and do not show over one-eighth of the seals as reported by Professor Elliott. With these facts in view, I am convinced there will be a greater decrease in seal life next year than this, tor it will not be in the power of human ingenuity to check the rapid advance towards extermination now going on in that length of time. In conclusion, I respectfully suggest that there be no killing of fur-seals for their bkins on these islands, nor in the waters of Behring's Sea, for an indefinite number nf voars, to be named by the Secretary of tlie Treasury, and let Nature take her course ill replenishing the rookeries, and that the Department lake the entire matter of protecting these rookeries under its immediate supervision, for I regard any other system [296] D 2 it ill 1 It :| f ' k ?. 1-. ■mmm^^Mm. ^ikiM^'r. ^^ T.'.UrliJklj? ''^f f "^l 85««Mii?wwM'W!i' i?j2:3H™ia«a«»,^^^ pmwaPMaonpi mmmmii^ 18 of protection dangerous to the fulurc of all intereslcd. The limited number of seals killed this season by the lessees will, undoubtedly, L nvc the majority of the natives in absolute want, and their condition will appeal to the Department for aid. The amount distributed to the natives upon the l.slnnds of St. Paul and St. George was 6,783 del. 30 e. and 1,644 dol. 80 c. respectively. 'J'his will not be sufficient to provide them with the necessaries of life until the steamers return in the spring, especially so with the natives of the St. George Island. With this fact in view, I made the following arrnngcments with the North Anie, can Commercial Company, through their manager, Mr. George R. Tingle. The N. -tli American Commercial Company's resident agent, together with the Treiisury Agent in charge, are to adjudge what su;ipiics are positively needed for the support ami maintenance of the natives; the Company receiving from the 'J'reasury Agent a certificate that such supplies have been furnished, but said certificate merely to be accepted as a voucher of corrcclnet-s. The matter to be adjusted in the future with the Department by the North American Commercial Company. The Department will have to make some ])rovision for the support and maintenance of these ])eople, a.t their mode of making a living has been destroyed for the present, and their future is only what the charity of the Government will make it. There is utterly nothing here upon which they can depend for a livelihood, until the much-wishcd- for return of seals takes place, an event too far in the future to give even a promise of better times to these unfortunate people. Hespectfully yours, (Signed) CHARLES J. GOFF, Treasury Agent in charge of the Seal Islands, Hon. William Windom, Secretary of the Treasury, Washington, D C. (li.J — Kojiort of Joseph Murray. IP k ,1 Office of Siicdnl Agent, Treasury Department, Sir, St. George Island, Alaska, July 3\,\m. T have the honour to report tlint the health of the natives here has been unusually good during the past year, and is at present far better than any other time in many years. There is not a case of sickness on the island, excepting those of long standing, due to scrofula and other chronic diseases. With one single exception nil tlie workmen are well and hearty. We had a full term of school from September until May, and under ihc care of the teacher. Dr. L. A. Noyes, it was as well conducted as any public school of its size in the country; but, after all, 1 find the eliildren made next to no i)rcgres8 in acquiring tlie simplest rudiments of our language. It seems incredible, but it is true, that young men and women who have been to school here for seven years do not know how to speak or road a sentence of the English language. Looking over their sh(tulders as they write in their copy-books, and observing the case with which they follow the head-lines, one would think they were making rapid pro;?r?ss, but ask any one of them to read what he or she has been writing, and they cannot do it. It was long suspected that the older people secretly influenced the children against American schools, and encouraged them to learn the Russian language in pret'erenee to any other ; but I find that they are just ns ignorant of Russian as they are of Englisii, and as backward in learning it There has been one day of each week devoted to the Russian school* which, in my opinion, has a bad effect upon the children in their attempt to master the English tongue, and I therefore respectfully suggest that the piacticc of teaching Russian to the school children be abolished. After a year's residence here, I am able to say that the people as a whole have conducted (hemselves very well indeed; not a loud, vulgar, or angry word has been spoken in my hearing or to my knowledge by a native man or woman on the island of St. George. Not one case of drunkenness or drinking, nor anything approaching to it, has eonie to my knowledge. A case of wrong-doing by two white men, employes of the Alaska Commercial Company, compelled me and my assistant, Mr. A. P. Lend, to complain to Mr. Sloss, tlic Pcsidcnt of the Company, who imme- diately removed and discharged the olFenders. Jjxcepling one instance, there has not been one word of complaint from any (juarter. The men who wintered in the service of fl.e Alaska Commercial Company are all good and worthy, especindy the agent, Mr. Daniel Webster, and the physician, Ur, A. L' m- children against {foycs. I (nkc pleasure in thus testifying to their worth, for I have found them to be upright and honourable at all times, in all their transactions with the natives, with irhom they arc deservedly very popular. I have endeavoured to promote a more perfect sanitary system in the village, and I find it is not so hard, as was expected, to prevail on the people to adopt better methods, if one will be patient and treat them kindly. It will be an impossibility, however, to do much toward establishing a sanitary gjBtein of value until we have better water and a more abundant supply than is possible under existing conditions. The present supply of water for domestic purposes is obtained from a well into which the drainnge of half the village finds its way, and the wonder to me is that the people are not constantly sick while they have to use such drinking water. There is a nice fresh-water lake within 2,000 feet of the village, and fully 60 feet higher, from which n constant and never-failing supply of good water can be taken if you can have 2,000 feet of 2-inch pipe and the necessary hydrant and fixings sent here. A drain is Ihe next essential to success, and one of 700 feet in length can be dug easily, and will suffice to carry all the dirt and oiFal of the village into the sea. It will be necessary to have 700 feet of 12-inch drain-pipe. The total absence of water-closets on this island is a disgrace, and is beyond all question the cause of more immorality, disease, and death than all other things com- bined, 'i hat such a state of things has been allowed to exist for twenty years is a disgrace to our civilization, and I do hope you will insist on the present lessees or on the Depattnient to have it altered at once. The subject is so abominable I dare not write it in a public Report, It is absolutely necessary, too, that at least six of the dwelling-houses be enlarged, as the families now occupying them have not room to live as human beings should. It may be true, as many assert, that under Russian rule the natives were not housed one- half so well as they arc now ; but such arguments are of no avail in a country like ours. When a family of seven persons, of all ages and sexes, are packed in a sleeping apartment measuring 10 by 10 feet they are not treated right, nor does our Government intend to bare such things existing where it has jurisdiction. The dwelling-houses arc badly in need of repairs, and the attention of the local agent, Mr. Webster, has been called to their condition ; but as he is to leave the island this year, it may be necessary for you to mention it to the General Manager of the North American Commercial Company. Mr. A. W. Lavender arrived on the 26th, and immediately entered upon his duties. On the 12th July the watchman reported a schooner in sight off Zapodine, and I armed the men and sent a squad to exposed rookeries, Mr. Lavender going to Zapodine with four men, the second chief and four men to East Rookery, and I went with four men to Starri-Arteel. We all watched until next morning without seeing an enemy. To facilitate the guarding of the rookeries it is necessary tu have some sort of shelter for the watch- men ; a small hut on each of the three rookeries would be sufficient, and they need not cost over 60 dollars each. On Sunday, 11th May, the schooner "Alton" (Captain Worth), of San Francisco, touched at the island, and the captain came ashore and informed us of the new lease and new Company. On learning of the change the natives held several meetings, and after- wards came to the Government House to have my advice as to how they should act in case any material changes were made in their mode of working, government, or the amount of their pay. The meeting was adjourned from time to time until they had thoroughly discussed the most important questions raised, and at the last meeting, held 23rd May, they unanimously declared that it was their firm belief and honest opinion that the seals had diminished and would continue to diminish from year to year, because all the male seals had been slauirhtercd without allowing any to grow to maturity fo*" use on the breeding- ground. I made a note of the suggestion on the journal that day, and I am now fully con- vinced by personal observation that it is only too true, and that the natives were correct in every particular. In 1889 the full quota of 16,000 skins was obtained here, but I know now (what I did not understand then) that in order to fill the quota they '. >wercd the standard towards the close of the reason and killed hundreds of yearling seals, and took a greater number of small skins than ever before. Tiie tirst seals of this season appeared upon the hauling-gronnd on the L'Oth April, fil I ) .. t^^>Ji.i.«^rn.«i«^;fcV«.x- 90 »nd tlio flrMt killing for food was on the ISth May. The killing acnHon for Hkiim opened on the 3nd Juno, and they killed Hoventy-one. I incloBO a full fttatcmoiit of all tho killings of tho Koanon, from the '2nd .limo to the 30th July, inclusive, and you will observe that the greatest number killed nl anu killinfip — excepting those of the 19th and SOth July — was only !(94, nlthougli ihu driviim and killing were under the immediate supervision of Mr. Wobster, who is adniittod lo Ih) ike most experienced and most careful sealer on the islands. Until the lUih July, an attempt was made to keep to a standard of not loss than 7-lb. skins, but when it was apparent beyond question that there were no lurirc young seals on Uio hauling-grouna, the standard was lowered and skins of 0>II)h. w^rc taken wherever found. It was thus the last two killings were swelled to their ))rc!H!nt proportions. For the whole season we obtained a total of 4,112 skins, against a total of 10,138 on the same date last year. That the seals should havo disapiranrcd so rapidly since the Ucport of your prcde. cesser in 1 888 is so astounding that those who cannot see the rookericH and haujinf;. grounds for themselves may well be pardoned ibr doubting what is, I am Horry to say, only painful though it bo to all who are interested, tho whole truth munt novcrtlieieiw be told, and that is tlut tlio seals have been steadily decreasing hIucc 1880, and tlio days arc imsscd and gone when they could be counted on tho rookeries by the niillinn. I have carefully exnmincd tho rookeirics and hauling-grounds at Htarri- Artcel nurlh and cast» and I find somewhat less than half the ground covered when eomimrcd wit It former years. I accompanied the natives when they went to make a tirivc from l<)a.sl Itoukcry, and we walked along the beach from Little East to East Rookery without lindiii^r onu seal till we came to the breeding-grounds pro))cr. Either Mr. Lavender or 1 was present at every killing made ; we saw tho numbers that wo turned away, and we counted tliu skins of all that were killed, and we tind that what is true of ono rookery is true of tlicni nil — the seals are not on them. Now that the seals have disappeared the natives are very much alarmed, and tlivy anxiously inquire what will the Government do for them in their destitution. Tliey liavc earned during the present season 1,G44 dol. OOc, which, I need searcely add, will ])e entirely inadequate to supply food and clothing; for a year for a population of ninety people. I never knew a people so attached to a church as these poor creatures, and now they arc in great tribulation because they have no means to contribute to its support, nor to the support of the priest and his family. At one of their many meeting.s they requested mc to write for them to the Russian-Greek Church Consistory at San Francisco, and apical for aid for their priest and church until such times as the seal iisherica should recover and make them self-supporting. In justice to the priest, I may tell you that he was the first to say he should not have any share of the earnings of this season, and that he would not take any money from the people until times mended, and that he could afford to pay ; otherwise he should apply to the Consistory for a position in another locality. I have endeavoured to impress upon them the fact that they are not to he aban- doned to their fate; that the Government will not allow them to starve or sutler, but will take care of the people and of the rookeries until the rookeries arc huill up and fully replenished, when prosperity and happiness will return to the island once more. All of which is most respectfully submitted. (Signed) JOSEPH MURRAY, Hon. Charles J. Goif, V Agent in charge of Seal Island, Alaska. First Assittant Agent, St. Oeorge Island. (C.) — Report of A. W. Lavender, Asai^stant Treasury Agent. Office of Special Agent, Treasury Department, Sir, St. Oeorge Island, Behring's Sea, July 20, 1890. I have the honour to make you the following Report of this season's sealing by the North American Commercial Company, ond to offer such recommendotions as in my judgment should be enforced by the Government for the pro(ecti«m of these rookeries durinn; the next six or seven years ; also to report to you the condition of the nntivos mid their house's and to ask that such repairs to their honses as are absolutely required lie tr total of 10,138 fgrniahod oa Boon a8 pomible ; also to roqnest cX yoa in your Report to the Hecretury of the TrcaHiiry to bhIc for 800 dollara for repairs to the Qovoriimcnt Houho, and such nt'.ier irtiolofi as I shall mention in this Report. In accordance witli your letter of the 20th iutitant, asking me to ship the 680 food lUns in the United States' Revonuo Marine cutter "Rush," I will state that I hav* complied with tlio same, and inclotie you a receipt signed by the Oaptain, a dupUoaie of the HAine I have in this otfico on file. I will also stato there are twenty road skins hero in the Milt-housc. The killing of seals on this island was stopped on the 'iOth ; a list of each number killed out of each drive I inclose also to you, and you will see that the last drive from North mid Starri-Artcel Ilnokorivs and also from Zapodine that there was a larger number of 8cals killed than from nny other drive ; this I will assure you was not owing to the greater number of largo seals being driven at this time, but the standard weight of skina being reduced on that day from 7 to 6 lbs., and even less. The writer was surpriHed when he first visited the rookeries to find no young bnll letlH upon them ; this looked strange to him, and ho began to look up the cause, and it occurred to him that the constnnt driving of young male seals and the killing of all the 2-, 3-, 4-, and C-vear-olds, that there were no young hulls left to go on the rookeries, and without young blood the fur-seal industry will bo something of the past in a very few years. The Government should take absolute control of these islands and permit no seal to be killed more than are needed by the natives for food for the next six or seven years, tnd then all the male seals driven should be killed, as it is my opinion tluit not over one-linlf ever go back upon the rookeries again. In this way there would be killed upon tliia island about 2,C00 each year. These skins sold in the market would pay all the expenses of the island and furnish such supplies to the natives to keep them from want, ind tlicy would be as well satisfied as they are now under the management of the North American Commercial Company. Without something of this kind being done, the natives will soon have to move from these islands, for there will be nothing to keep them here. The North American Commercial Company has landed and turned over to this oiRccr 30 gross tons of coal for the use of the natives and ten barrels of salt salmon, iiid nlso state that there are 10 tons of coal in the coal-shed for the Government house. Most all of the native houses need repairing ; some need a new floor, others a new roof, and 1 would recommend that at least four of these houses be made larger by the addition of one more room. The Government or Company, whichever has charge of this island, the next season should send at least 10,000 feet of siding and 10,000 feet of flooting on the first steamer that comes up in the spring ; also 36,000 shingles, and nails enough to do the vork. The natives are in better health than they have been for the past year. I am not aware of there being a sick person on the island. Their sanitary condition is bad, and to each house there should be a small outbuilding, which they could use for a closet. Such a thing seems to be unknown here. Tlie repairs required by the Government House are as follows : The front platform needs rebuilding, and part of the roof needs shingling, and the whole roof to be painted; also the house needs painting and papering on the inside, and the fence repainting. The articles required for the use of this Office arc as follows i— One letter-press and book. One carpet for Government House. One bill file. One platform scales. One letter file. One spring balance. Paper and pens. Respectfully yours, (Signed) ALBERT W. LAVENDER, Assistant Treasury Agent. Charles J. Goff, Esq., Treasury Agent in charge of Seal Islands. It •, mmmmimm ■^'^^wa*^*"^ ^VHHM S2 Sir, North American Commercial Company, 81. Paul Island Alaska, July \,l8m. As per request of I. Liebcs, Esa., President North American Commercial C'omimny contained in his letter to me dated at San Francisco, 0th June, 1800, I heruhy a.sk permission to kill and take for the use of said Company, for exhibition only, to Ik> stuffed and set up, five specimen seals of dilfcrcnt ages, including one cow and one yoiini; black pup. I am, &c. (Signed) GEO. R. TINGLE, auperintcndfnl, North American Commercial Compnnu Charles J. Goif, Esq., '' Treasury Agent in charge. (Note in red ink.) — Consent orally given, and (his letter copied in journal, p, 23G 8th July. 1890. Dilr. Jiiii' h\r 1 HI „ 15 rt 16 17 „ 17 „ 18 18 19 „ 19 „ •20 20 ■na (I).)— Annuai, Sltttcincnt of Fur-ScalH killed on Ht. Tftul iHliuid, Aliiska, during tho year ending July 20, 1890. "■" Numbiir of H.h>U killtd NuinbRr iif Si'mU kllleJ »jr «. 1 Ruokrjr, tott ialires' Fooil. Lvisevi fur Hkint, J- Hkinn rrjfcted. Arri'ptcit, Rrj.<et«d • "8 •3 1 • i 1 1 J 1 1 i 1 ll 1 5 i £ 1 i i 1 1 1 1 \m. tur 2H Houth-WMt Hay 119 115 3 1 115 , , , , 1 5 115 4 119 Jam' II 13 Tolilol •• • • •' •• IIS 539 IHI "l "35 1 1 35 115 539 1H2 I 35 116 574 182 .. 111 17 17 R><t( Norih-i'ait Point .. Hallway Point •• ■• •• •"• 315 IC 107 •• 1 • • 1 2 315 16 167 2 • • 317 l« 167 IH ToUloi ami MiililU' Hill ,, ,, ,, ,. 270 , , ,, 4 4 270 4 274 18 Norlhi'ait Point .. ,, , , ,, ,, 7H . , ,, , , , , 78 ^ ^ 78 'JO Rrcfnnil LiikiinnDii .. .J , , ,, . . ,, 339 ,, a. ,, ,, 339 ,, 339 211 Nortli-i'UKt Point ,. ,, ,, ., . , 438 ,. ,, ,, ,, 438 ,, 438 i> 21 21 Soulh-vnt Hay North-ra^t Point .. .. '• '• •• •• 290 9fi •• •• 2 2 290 96 2 292 96 23 Knirli-li Uny anil Luknnnun ,, ,. ., ,, ,, 515 3 a , 3 3 518 3 521 23 Narth-r»l Piiiiil ., ,, ,, ,, ,, 176 2 1 a , 1 I7H 1 179 21 Rnfi niKl Zolliii .. ,, , , ,, 414 ,, lit 2 12 414 12 426 24 N»rtli.en>t Puiiit .. ,. , , , , , , 202 3 ,a aa ,, 205 ,, 205 2S llair.wny Point ,, ,, ,, , , 203 ., 3 a a 3 263 3 266 2} ! North.i'aiil Point .. , , ,, ,, , , 104 2 , a a. 166 166 2fi Soath.wiit liny .. ,, ,. . , 114 2 , , 1 1 116 1 117 " 27 BngllHli Bay and MicliUii Hill .. 27 North-nil Point .. 28 RiHif •• •• '• •• 374 225 205 2 5 1 19 ■ • 1 20 376 230 206 20 • • 396 230 206 28 Norlh.i'ait Point .. ,, , , ., ,, 79 ,, a. , a ,, 79 • • 79 " 30 Tolstoi, ICngliah Bay, Midillu Hill, and KiitaTiu •• •' •• •• 2(16 1 2 •• 2 207 2 209 30 North-ea>t Point ., .. ,, ,, • f , , 97 1 • • a a ,, 98 a. 98 hir 1 Rct'f ,, ,, • • ,, 246 ,, ,, • • ,, 246 a. 246 I North-cait Point .. «, , , ,, ,, 130 1 ,, aa ,, 131 • • 131 1 2 Half-way Point ,. ,, ,, ,, 240 ,, aa 2 2 240 2 242 2 North'<-a>t Point ,, ,, , , ,, 90 ., ,, , a a a 96 aa 9« 3 Soutli-WMt Bay ., ,, ,• ,. 181 ,. 2 ,a 2 181 2 183 3 North.i-ast Point .. , , ,, , , , , 180 , , , a ,, a. 180 ,a 180 ti 4 Tolstoi, English Hay, and Middle Hill •• •• •• •• 472 •• 19 3 22 472 22 494 4 Northeast Point .. ,, ,, ,, ,, 318 3 a. ,, ,, !«21 • • 321 'o Reef ,, ,, , , ,a 524 I ,, 1 1 525 1 526 !i North-east Point ,. , , ,, ,, ,, 74 ,, a. • • 74 • • 74 " 7 English Bay, Middle Hill, Tol- itoi, Lukannon, and Keta«iu •• " ,, •• 400 •• 11 •• 11 400 n 411 7 ,, , , , , J, 400 ,, 11 a a 11 400 u 411 ,1 7 North-east Point • • • ■ ,, ,, ,, ,, 336 ,, ,, a. • • 336 a. 336 8 Half-way Point ., ,, ,, a. 257 • • 3 1 4 257 4 261 8 North-east Point .. , , a. ,, 378 1 a , , a ,, 379 • • 379 9 South-west liny ,, ,, « , ,, 160 2 1 a. 1 162 1 163 9 North-east Point .. • • ,, ,, , , 271 .. a. ,a 271 * • 271 10 Reef ,, , , , , , , 373 1 1 2 2 4 374 4 378 ^, 10 North-i'ast Point .. .. ,, ,, , , , , 112 1.. ,, , a ,, 112 ,, 112 " 12 English Bay, Middle Hill. ToU stoi, Lnkannon, and Kdavic •• '• •• •• 624 » 4 •• 4 629 4 633 13 Half>way Point .. .. ,. ., ■ • , , 211 ., ,. , , ,. .fll • ■ 211 N 13 II North-east Point .. Reef English Bay, Middle Hill, Tol- stoi, Lukannon, and Ko'avie '.'. •• •• ••" 641 104 315 •• • • 17 17 • • 641 104 315 17 658 104 315 15 North-cast Point ,. <. ,. ., ,, ., 245 ,, ,, ,a • • 245 ., 245 Ifi • • •• ,, , , ,a ,, 311 ,, 1 ,, 1 311 1 312 " 17 PoU«nia, Lukaunon, and Ki'- tavie •• •• •• •• 369 3 •• •• • • 372 ■ • 372 17 North-east Point ,, ,, ,, , , 485 ,, • « , , • • 485 ,. 485 18 18 Zapodinc .. .. •. •' •• ■• •• 405 80 •• •• •• 150 405 80 156 405 236 19 Reef and Zoltoi ,, ,, , , ,, 547 2 3 4 7 549 7 556 J, 19 ! North-out Feint .. ,, ,, , , ,, 446 ,, ,, a. ,, 446 • • 416 II 2U ; Bngliab Bay, MiiMIe Hill, Tul. a. , , ,, ,, 752 6 18 4 .. 758 22 780 stoi, Lukannon, Ketavic, and Point Rocky II 20 North-east Foint .. Total •• •• •• •• 507 2 47 •• •• 509 47 556 119 115 3 1 16,783 50 1 185 1 60 314 16,833 391 17,724 f ) > f, I * Rvjectcd for other reaions, 156, [295] E k^^ 1 {^Taule Hliowing disposition of tlio rejected Skins of 1800, wiiicli I refimo to do«troy. Total numbtr of ikins roji'Cteil • • . . • > • • • • • • 3'.>i July in, iiciiipd'd by lMii«»t Norlli-CMt Point,. .. „ 20, „ „ ,. » •• ,, 20, •cciptfil l)y K'""**!! »l vilUgB.. f> •• •• •• •• Now 111 ««U lit North-.iwl I'ciiiit •. •■ •• •• •• •• Now In Mil at villnijo .. .. •• •• •• •' ;• lUci'ivfil liy NdHIi Aniri!(«n Cciiiiniiniiil Coniimny In iimkf iiilH fur thrr uplnyfn fihii uro to winter on St. Mnllliew'. l.lnmli ci.l»l)li«liin)( n tru.iliiK tliitinii for »niU Company .. .. •• •• •• •• •• •• Profi-Mor Williim I'almiT, of tlio 8mllh«oni«n Initllulion . . S|>nil«(l on the fli'lJ .. .. ■• Olvrn to the nntivi'i •• •• •• •• •• •• '• 22 a 34 47 2 II I lif, U i'H The North Amcricnn Comniercinl Company asks for five specimens for oxIilMiidi, hs per accompanying letter, nnd reported killing one cow, one pup, one bull, iurno, three males of different ages; total, six. (E.) — Annual Statement of Fur-Seals killed on bt. George Island, Alaska, durin;,' the year ending July 20, 1800. ■ Uooltory, Number of Sialt killed by Loiihi br Skins. Aggrigate, Date. Acceptfil. Hejcitfd for other Il'llT'OIIS. Tolul. Skins ucce])tL'd, Skin» rejciticl. Iiilid. ' ■ ''""'^- i lla... the roud. 1890 ■ June 2 North .. ,. >. 71 ,, 71 71 ,, il 10 Ett»t 211 4 218 218 ,, 2lH IB North 113 4 118 117 1 im „ 19 Eait and Littlu Eait 170 2 IHl IHl ,, itii 20 Zapniline .. 304 .394 394 ,, 3'J4 23 Starri-Artiel ami North 1U2 2 104 1G4 ,, nil 2i GiiKt and Little Eiut. . 182 2 184 181 ,, 181 28 Starri-Artwl and North 188 ; 1 189 189 , , M ,. 30 Zapotlini- .. .. .. 189 ,, 189 1H9 ,, '.M. July 1 East and Little Eait. . 145 . , 149 145 4 , "» 3 Starri-Arteid nnd North 234 ,, 238 234 4 23H 5 Baat and Litlle East,. .. 5(i 1 57 57 ,, '■>! 7 iiapodino ,. .. .. 57 ,, r.8 57 1 :>» 8 Eait and Little Kaat.. 23 , , 24 23 1 n Slarrl-Arted and North 183 ; 3 193 186 7 1 lj:i 11 East 59 ; 00 59 I Ul .. 12 Starri-Arti'cd and North • . 102 103 102 1 ; loj ., u Zapodiiie .. .. .. 53 1 53 53 , , j:i 15 East 131 132 131 1 111 IC Starri-Arteel nnd North 119 ■ .. 119 119 , , ii» 18 Eiit 71 i .. 71 71 , , 20 Starri-Arteel and North .. 034 1 7 C4I C41 1, i;ii 20 Zapodine •• ,. ■. Total ,. 527 j 527 527 •• .u; 4,08C 1 21 4,133 4,112 21 \,V,i NuTK. — One rejected tkiii was given to the CWitf, and tlic rcmuining twenty weiv sulttd dunn in tliu 8uU>htiUbu till I'urtluruniin. (Signed) JOSEPH MURRAY, First Asxistant Aijcnt. Wunliington, D.C., Maij 5, ]8^ii. Should any doubt arise concerning pups' skins, claimed by Alaska Coniniercial I Company, under instructions to Agent Mettlcton of tiic 11th March last, you will ciuse all such skins, together with the merchantable skins specified in your instructions of the 2Cth March last, to bo shipped to Collector at San Francisco, and thereupon report fnds| to Department for dctermhiation. (Signed) GEO. C. TICHENOR, Charles J. Goff, Assiiilant Svcrvlunj. Treasury Agent, Seal Islands, (Care Collector of Customs, San Francisco, California). \glin'|{.llr. Skin» T..ial s„|, rfJLTlCll. kilM, •• ;i 21H 1 im ,, 181 ,, 3'J4 ., ' 101 ,, 1 181 , , m ,, ! 'M 4 \» 4 n* , , 1 il i < M 1 St 7 i;t;i 1 till 1 10) , , ! 13 I l:fi .• ll» •• fill 21 l,lo3 lUfiu till t'urtlierurJin. 2ft Alasha Commerrial Company of Snn Frnnci»ro, Sir, St. Gcorrje htand, Alaskii, Minj '2Ci, 1 890. Ilorowitli T would iisk permission to ship, per hU'iiukm- " Dorft," 4H2 I'lir-soalo, at jirccnt Rltirod nt oiii' viiliirro siilt.houHo, niul KID iit our Halt-liotiac nt Zapadinc. Tlu'MO 5!H I'lir-soalH wcro killed l»y tiic natives for food durinj^ tlic winter 188!) to I-' :, mid have heon Halted nntl eared for hy the Alaska ('oinmercial CoiniMiny hcforo lln. transt'er of its property to the Norl!> American C'oininercml Company, the present liiiMcrs of the lease for the Heal Islands. I have, &e. (aif,iied) UUDOLPII NliUMANN. (} nrnil Aijent, Alanka Vommercinl Company. lion. Charles J. (JofI, United States' TroasMry Aj;ont in charge of the Seal Islands St. Paul an<l Ht. Oeorge. Alaska Commercial Compnni/ of San I<yanrisco, Sir, St. Paul Island, Alaska, Mai/ ;»], 1890, Herewith I would ask permission to sliip, per steamer " Dora," 3, !!)() tur-seals, "94 «ta;r,v skins heiiii;* included in this number, and stored at present at our village salt-house, and 'Jil8 at our salt-house at North-east Point. Tiiesc .'Vlitt fur-skins were killed hy the natives for food during the winter of 1889 lo 1S!10, and iiave been salted and cared for hy the Alaska Commercial Company heforo the transfer of its jiroperty to the North American Commercial Company, the present hnldors of the lease for the Seal Islands. I have, &c. (Signed) UUDOJ.PIt NFUMANN, Grneral Atjent, Alaska Commvrcial Company, lion. Charles J. GofT, United States' Treasury Agent in charge of the Seal Islands St. Paul and St. Ceorgc. In ri !y lo your communications hearing date the 2<ith and 31st May, respectively, ,1-kiiig ])( iinission to remove the fur-seal skins now in the salt-houses «)n St. Paul and St. (ienrge Islands, I will say, in pursuance to instructions received hy mo from the Secrotnry of tlie Treasury, I will have to respectfully decline to allow you to remove the skins in (|uestion, and herewitii inform you that all of the saiil skins will he shipped per I'liitod States' cutter, cave Collector of Customs, San Francisco, California, to be disposed (it liy the Department as the Secretary may deem advisable. (Signed) CIIA11LI-:S J. GOFF, neasury Ayrnt. lliin. I!ud(dph Neumann, fieneral Agent, Alaska Commercial Company. North American Commercial Company, St. Paul Island, Dear Sir, July 8, 1890. The North American Commercial Company will accept as part of their quota of 10,000 seal-skins for 1800 such of the food skins of 1889 as they may tind on examination lobe merchantable and ".cceptable to them. The skins being now stored in our warehouses on this and St. Ceoige Island, we hereby claim the privilege of availing ourselves of the offer made us by the Honourable Secretary of the Treasury at Wasliington, as contained in and being a part of his instructions to you dated the 26th March, 1890, a copy of which hy his request you were kind enough to furnish the Company, which instructions in our opinion were not changed !)}• any subsequent order made by the Honourable Secretary, so far as our right to accept food skins is concerned. If the food skins claimed by us should not be delivered to U8 here so as to enable us to ship • ^em with the Company's skins taken under their lease this season, we could not get thei 'n Jiondon in time for our fall sale, were they tendered [205] £ a mmm^^ . ijiwppiiMBipvmpnpipipiMH ^rmmmmm the Company at San Francisco after the cutter's arrival from Alaska in the fall, fiein'r thus deprived of the skins, a heavy loss to the Company in prospective profits would result, which loss we would feel should be made good to us by the Government of the United States. I respectfully request you to communicate to me in writing the result of your con- elusions in the matter. I am, &c. (Signed) GEORGE E. TINGLE, Superintendent, l^orth American Commercial Compumi Charles J. G off. Treasury Agent in charge of Seal Fisheries, St. Paul Island, Alaska. 1 I 1 I. Office of Special Agent, Treasury Department, Dear Sir, ' St. Paul Island, July 8, 1890. Your communication of later date, in which you nsk permission to assort nnd cxnminc the skins of the seals killed for food during the winter of 1889 and 1890, aiul to take such as you may adjudge acceptable to j'our Company as part of your scnsoii's catch (or this year, has been carefully considered and your request respectfully declined, as I have no option in the matter other than to strictly obey the orders of the Sccietnry of the Treasury. I avail myself of this opportunity to notify you that on and after the 20th July I shall require you to conform to that clause in my instructions which prevents killing ot fur-seals for their skins after that date. Kespectfully yours, (Signed) CHAKLES J. GOFF, Treasury Ayenl, George R. Tingle, Esq., General Manager, North American Commercial Company. If 19 30 Si|it. 7 21 30 Oct. U „ 21 ,, 31 Kot. G 12 25 m:, 18 31 'T^^^^^^f»'i'''W'18i iff' (K.)— Annual Stptement of Fur-SeaU killed for Pood on St. Paul Island, Alaska, during the year ending May 21, 1890. Kookerjr, Seals ki led for Natire Food, p«lp. Pupa. L.'ge louii'; TjIoI. Skint accepted by Lcucea. S .ins rejected 1 1 Psals. Under Size. Stagy. Cut. 1889 ' Jolf 31 Zoltnl trn 160 156 .. .. 4 luf . G I.ultannon . . . . , , !! 163 163 163 .* ,, ! n Bdanoe oter ahi|inicnt in aall- houne '• 58 58 58 • • • • „ 1' Zokoi .. .. •• 131 131 123 3 ,. S „ 22 i< ■■ •■ •■ •• 141 141 139 ,, 2 „ bl Tolaloi 179 179 87 1 91 S-|... 9 Zoltoi ,, 141 141 ,, ,« 141 1, 1« ■ t •• 11 •• , , 110 110 ,, 110 ,. 25 Jl •• •• •• ,, 107 107 ,, I 106 »| •• • • •• (( • • •• * • '• 120 103 120 103 • « 1 4 119 99 ,. 2C l.ukunnon .. •• .. ,, 132 132 "44 2 86 KOT. « 2ultoi l,04t 125 '.25 80 3 42 „ 19 Tulstoi 1,230 224 224 2'3 1 ,, „ 21 Roof • • 317 347 347 ,, ,, „ 27 ,, • > ■• at , , 102 192 189 3 . ,, „ 27 Zapodine .. •• .. , , 10 10 in • • • • „ 30 Rrf ,, 240 240 236 4 Dec. U Zapodinj ,. ,. ,. ^^ 243 243 240 a .. 1890 Jn. 27 Si'a Lion Rock 175 175 170 5 ., % 21 ; 131 131 131 2,396 •• •• 2,280 3,'.'32 3,232 31 794 11 Skins nt Nortli.eiist Point. killc \ for watchmen .. 301 •• •• •• •• Grnr. J total of food ikint . . 1 3,533* .. • • .. , .. j 1889 ' kit. 10 North 55 ,. ,, ,. • • .. : 19 i ,, 56 ,, • • ,. , , „ 30 ! ,, 4S • * ., ,, 48 Sii)!. 7 East ,, 64 ,, ,, .. 64 1, 21 It • • • • •• ,, 50 ,, ,, .. 50 „ 30 North •• •• •* ,, 33 ,, ,, .. 33 • • Oct. 11 t* •• t. ,, 37 ., • • ., 37 .• „ ^1 ; Starri-Arteel t« 32 «• ,, • • „ 31 North 4 .. ,, KoT. G „ •• •. ■. "coo 6 ,, .. •• „ 12 .. 471 6 ,, ,, ■ . „ 25 1 Starri.Artcf! ,, 01 ,, ,. ., Um 13 ' North 32 ., ,. .. ,, 31 1 , , , 37 ,, , , ., " j For the wutchint^n at Zspodinc for the vhoU- oason ., •• 109 •• •• •• •• Total .. 1,071 63C+ j •• •• 232 • These ikins will be shipped on board United States' cutler " Richard Rush." nnd condnned to Collector of Customs, ?an Fnncino, as prr your in8tri;etion.s bearing daU' Jlay 5, 1890. The steamer will leave the Seal Islands eoily in September. t 'iliese skins (630) will be s'lippw! on board United Slates' cutler " Rieliard Rusli," and consigned to C'oUcelor of Customs, Krmitisco, as per yovir iiistruclions Ijraring date May 5, 1890. 'J'lu' steamer will leave llie Scol Islands early in September. -■■■I i r .1 if I hi mi i\'. ^m V. : .'i »«>ii m I if' ;i ., iljl "'*!■ mmmm. „J,..,JW,MIW«|P!IP\IIJ!m. ! i (O.) — Table sliowing thq killing of Fur-Seals on St. Paul Island up to Jul) iin, 18^9, by tiie Alaska Couiincrci«l Company, and up to July 20, 1800, by the Nortli American Coninicrcial Company; also Daily Weather Report from June 1 to July 31 of each Year. Village. Dnt". Number killed. Date. Niiir.licr kilk.,1. 1880— 1890- Jiiiin 5 • • • • • 201 Juiic 6 t • • • . . 110 „ 10 • • • • • 120 ., 11 .'.71 „ 12 • • • • • 917 „ 13 \K1 .. 14 ■ • • • t 762 „ 16 317 „ 15 • • • • • 310 „ 17 l';7 „ 17 > • • • • • 895 „ 18 274 ,. 18 1 • • • • > 1,1(U ,. 20 1 339 „ 19 • • • • # 1,501 ., ai j 292 „ 20 « • • • • 2->3 „ 23 521 .. 22 • • • • • ],35.! ,, 24 ■12(i „ 21 • • • ■ • 2,573 „ 25 •ji;*! „ 25 • • • • • 979 „ 26 117 „ 20 • • • • • 1,314 „ 27 a'ju „ 27 • • • ■ • 311 .. 28 2(10 „ 28 1,349 i „ 30 2119 ,. 29 « • • • • 1,038 ! Total . . . . a ■ Tolal 15,102 4,4u-2 July 1 • • • • • 1,023 ! July 1 •J4i; » 2 • • • • • • 834 „ 2 212 » 3 • • • • • 1,841 ., 3 183 .. 4 • ■ • ■ ■ 1,716 4 434 » 5 ■ •• at 1,'255 .. 5 :jM .. 6 • • • • ■ 1,302 „ 7 411 8 • • f • • 814 „ 8 2(il » 9 • • • • • • 1,311 „ 163 „ 10 • • • t t 654 „ 10 37ft .. 12 a • • • • • 2,004 „ IJ 033 ,. la » • • • • • 1,006 „ 13 211 „ 15 3.085 14 101 „ 16 1 • • • ','Jll ., 15 315 ., 17 ■ f • • • ,;)31 „ 17 372 .. 18 I • • • • • L',010 „ 18 '2311 „ 19 1 • • • a • 2,017 „ 19 .O.-.ij „ 20 • • • • • . 1,913 „ 20 THO Total la a • a • ■ ,JGG Total a a 1 « * 6,111 b -'". I 8^0, by onli Aiiu'ricaii 'lily 31 of cncli X:ni:licr 1 kiiini. 1 lie, S71 IH'J .■!17 in? 271 , , 3;i9 .. 292 • , bi\ , , ■12(1 , , 2':(i , , 117 ayo , , 2(11) • * 2ll'J • • ■1,102 • . 24il , . 212 , , is:! , . •r.u , . u2(i • • ■111 , , 2(il , » 163 • • 37H ^ , C3;i , , 211 lot , , ul.i , , 372 , , 23B , , r,:,6 •• 7 HO f),l 1 1 n . . ' '. Nouth-East roiNT, Da'c Niiinher liiUcd. Dale. Number killed. 1S89— 1890— June 17 • . • ■ • 1 1,064 June 17 ,, , 16 .. 18 ■• « ■ % t 1,270 „ 18 78 „ 10 • t • • • . 49.1 „ 20 438 „ 21 • • • • • * 1,205 „ 21 90 ,. 21 • • ■ • • • 754 „ 23 179 „ 2.5 • t • • • . 1,407 ., 21 205 „ 20 • • • • • * 441 „ 25 166 01 1* "' • • • • < • 844 „ 27 230 „ 28 • • • • • * 479 „ 28 79 ., 29 July 1 • • ' • • ' .135 „ 30 July 1 98 l,-200 131 ,. a • • 968 ., 2 96 • • • • ■ > • l,;)09 3 • •• 180 ., r> • • • • • > 1,524 » '» 321 .. c> 1 • • • • • 376 .. •'i 74 ., « • • • • « > 014 „ 7 33l> ,. f • • •• • • 641 »» •■ 379 ., 10 • • • • • * 800 , „ 9 271 „ 13 • • • • • • 793 „ 10 112 .. 15 • • • • « • 1,833 „ 13 658 „ Ifi • t • • • • 1,150 „ 15 UI5 .. 17 * • ■ • • • 948 „ 16 312 ., 1« • • • • • . 1,283 .. 17 485 ., 19 • • 9 W • • 834 „ 18 405 ., '20 • • • • • • 213 .. 19 440 'I'otal .. » 20 • • • 556 15.076 Total . . , 5,007 • 2 1.3 I lis (lay to make t ho full quotn of 100,000. I Recai'itulation. Totiil niiiiili(.'r of fiir-scnli kilU'd liy lessees on St. Paul Island from 1st .Tunc to 20tli July— ISS) IH'.M) 65,187 17,105 Day of M.iiiL. June 1989. t Julj 1889. June 1890. July 1890. Mn. Mill. \\ f;UlliT. Jliix. Xlin. W.^alhcr. Ma». Mill. WcatliiT. Mai. Min. M'catlier. } 1 A2 33 Foggy .' 4.-. 40 Cloar 3? .33 Snow 40 40 Fog. 2 iO 3") Clouilv . 48 40 lliiy 31 32 llazv 48 40 ' .; ,■) 4i .1< .. . 48 42 .. . . 41 33 Clear 4G 40 1 Clear. 4 4» 4>) >t » 43 41 ri.'ar 41 31 Fiiii' 47 39 ■t- sn (. • , *9 40 Hazy 42 32 Clear 50 40 .'i(t 31 42 40 43 31 Fos 51 40 ■11 4 3 jt * , 49 42 Tuii-k fog .. 44 38 Hazy 51 41 » .)■ 3li .. . 5.1 40 Itairi 48 39 Uaiii 44 40 9 No rei'irJ .. 45 42 l\:ay 43 39 Thii'k fog . . 40 41 Ha7.y. 10 44 38 Itain 49 42 Thick fo- .. 44 31 1* »• 47 42 u 4:> 40 »» ' 51 41 Fo? 43 37 )i 48 43 Fog. I'j 43 3,S • t SI 42 Cl'jar 42 37 For 51 41 „ 13 33 37 ft M 40 .. .. 43 37 48 43 ,, 11 43 37 tt • 49 40 .» •• 43 33 ,, , , 44 43 Riin. l.'i 42 37 Tliick f.iff . 52 42 ft 48 39 Kain . . 45 43 Fos. 10 , 4.1 37 Rui[i 59 42 »i • 43 30 Fog 44 41 i; 46 33 ClouJv . 47 43 Unzy 45 37 Klin 47 42 ,, 18 49 38 lUin 48 42 It • • 44 37 Clear 47 42 *f 19 49 3fi Clear 52 42 I'og 40 37 Fog 50 40 *• :o 45 37 Cloudy . 49 41 Ck^ir 43 39 Finj 49 41) ■21 4C 38 M • ; 49 43 Tlii.:k f>,' .. 43 40 Hain 54 44 22 4.^ 38 II • i 50 41 R'liii 49 10 Cl-ar 5ti 43 „ ■j:i 4fl 38 Rnin ! 48 42 lla.y 49 39 llaiy 53 *i „ ■J I 42 39 Tlii.^k fog . 1 4« 42 v«s 42 38 Fog 52 4« ►•■ .. , 2'i 4li 40 .» . I 50 42 ll.i/y 4.» 40 52 45 ••- 20 49 4(1 Cloudy . 1 *' 44 riiitk f.iH' . . 42 38 11 • • 53 43 .». 27 .'I I 41 Clear 49 43 11. «y 41 39 II •• 53 40 ., 28 5U 41 11 • 1 4S 43 llaiii 44 38 llazy 49 *i ir 2'J 50 40 Cloudy .1 48 42 Fog 43 40 »» •• 48 44> „ . M) 50 40 ■ If • i 50 43 llaiy 42 39 ,t ... 48 40i 1* ;ti •• •• •• 1 *•' 42 Fog •• ** 51 45 U. t' ^, I i ,' i 1} ' I I ll f I ft fi \r-U §:■; 80 (H.)— 'I'ahm'. Hhowiii^ thu hoginniiija; of cncli Scaliii^if Suhhoii on tliu IhIiiikIs of S(. Pny] mid St. (iooi'go, from 1870 to 1800 inclusive, and the number ol' Kur'Scal« acccMttcj by the LebHcos up to July 20 of cncli year. (Taken by Alaska Comiiicicial Company.) Sti. •uul. St. Ocorgo. Tolnl Skii,, Year. Scnuon Rkiiia Svnson Hkinii ac(;i'|)lc(l. begun— occvpteJ. bcgnn — ncccjitpd. 1 1870» .. .. • • ■ • • • ' --\ 1871 .. June 1 20,788 Juno 4 12,004 ■V2,m 1873 .. .. I fl,'i.4ni) .. 3 21,5(i:t 87,00^ 1873 .. .. .1 ns.o.is •. 4 17,iir.2 H'i,:i!i7 187 t .. .. .1 88,058 .. 1 H,5.V1 !M;,r,l2 187.'> .. .. 1 8l,8i>0 II 1 10.000 '.l;l,H!H) I87(i .. .. 3 6'.),3(!7 11 1 10,000 ; 7!i,;!ii7 1877 .. » > ft8,7;i2 •I 1 15,000 7,i,7;i2 1878 .. .. H 78,570 ,. 10 10,700 '■<r>:2v.) 187l» .. .. 2 80,572 .. 3 'J0,5(S<» H)l,lllf 1880 .. M 1 80,000 •I 3 'JO.OOO HKI.OOO 1881 .. „ C. 80,000 II iiO.wOO HMM)on 188i .. .■ 2 80,000 II •' U0,000 100,(100 188.1 .. .. 1 no, 101 1. -i 11,1 J.) 71,321 1884 .. „ ■•! H;),092 •1 4 11,152 !M,2I( 1885 .. ., 3 7o,.|5l •• • 15,000 H.VI51 1880 .. .. -t 7'2,120 .. H i;j..i;i-) K,),1,V5 1887 .. .. 1 77,il8U •1 !• i.'Vmi '.10,770 1888 .. .. a 7:1,808 II « 13,187 HCi.OOS 188!) .. .. 1 OS, -185 1. 4 io,i:)8 ! 7K,B23 181)0 .. .. fi ifl,8.'i;it 1. 2 ■I.ll2t 20,!H5[ • No record. t Acooptoil but not Rliippcd in ono ycnr; balance cnrrivd over. X Taken by North American I'oniincrclal (.'oinpniiy. (T.)— Statement of Liubilitlos of tbo North American Oommcrcial Company to the Natives of St. rnul Island, after the division and distribution of IbW), showing the Amount duo to each individual on the 1st August. Name. Amount. Name. AlllOUMl. Arlonionofl", Kcrrick AshsliofT, Arscny .. llunIiikof«ky, Apollon Iliitrin, Kerrirk .. lln^ndiinoif. Nicoli . . ilutriii, Koip ,. lVll.i(;liu'.ofr, Kllcn . . Kniunolf, Otorgo . . Krntis, .lohn OroniotT, Nicoli .. Olotof, John . . Galnktnnotr, AU'\ . . Ilttberoff, Pnul .. Hapoir, John, estntc of Ilouscn, Alt'x . . Koierof, Stcpnn •• Kufthin, Aggie Kootchutcn, Jacob . . Krukcff, Nicoli .. KrukofT, Maxim Krukotr, Peter KuzintiofT, John . . KtuheoTMhoff, Euphcmc Kootchuten, George Kootchutcn, John . . KootehutcB, £mpheinc Koieroff, Pnul, estate of Kuinitioff, Pemin, estate Krukof, Natalia Koieloff, Panacovia M«nuliffi Alex . . ..! of Dol. 0. 182 37 153 85 1!)6 01 207 42 155 22 228 lO f.5 00 220 42 172 37 22'J 04 158 85 163 92 145 78 07 05 218 97 18G C4 175 24 182 04 188 79 166 05 259 01 81 27 193 ;9 217 04 118 22 105 42 302 85 735 30 37 00 7 50 79 10 Dol. r. MeloTidoiT, Antonc 415 .V,l Mdnvidolf, Simeon 714 71 Mcloviiloff, ^tra. A. 2o;i »:, Morciditr, Dorafav lo;! 00 Mnndrcgnn, Uxtcniii ti(l 00 Mcreulitf, Auxinsa 27 71 Ncdrriuoff, Slc|>an 1S8 i;) Ncdorazoff, Martin 17.') 01 Ousligoir, Pctir . . 1U3 21 Pushinkotf, Peter, estate of.. 1)8 05 Prokopuf, Vladimcr !i31 25 Paruiishin, Daniel,. IH<! Ill Paiikoir, Parfiri • . IS.') 01 Popoff, Afunasirt , . Gli (10 Mandi'ignn, Ncvu . . Melovidoff, Alex . . 178 -19 271 40 Poiwff, Nodotia . . 28 71 Itookarishnnkotf, Zachar 189 04 UczanzolT, Anna , • 122 00 Stcpetcni, Terrcnti, estate of 2.'.7 85 Stepctcni, Dorafiiy 437 22 Sidirk, 'rhro<loro . . 196 04 Sedule, Vnsila 190 42 Sbnbolin, Nccon . . 145 85 Stepctini, lilnrey . . 274 04 Shatyiigaii, Mctzofun 1.55 85 Shaishinkotf, Rev. Paul 158 19 Saroken, John 20 74 Shu jashiukofT, Agatay 64 70 Shubolia, Censer, estate of 116 13 Sboishiukoff, Valerian 165 09 (Ih <i ' St. I»ftul Seal S H('CC[»lc(l 1 Tntiil Rkii,i ac(;o|itc(l, d. • • t ; •I2,.W3 !» 1 87,or,j 3 1 K.'i.lHI? 1 !Ml,f,12 ".l:l,H!IO 7it,:!07 7.1,7;!2 9 '.i.'i.'J?',) lOI.Mlt IdO.OOO 10 1(111,000 )0 1(10,000 ill 7I,!J24 >i '.11,244 )0 8.V451 J5 ! R,-),4.^.5 41 '.iO,770 N7 H(i,'.HI5 IB ' 78,(123 12\ 20,045 [ Amount. Dol. r. 415 .V,l ..: 714 71 ..1 2(i;! 8.) lo;! 00 , . ' (id 00 •J7 74 ..1 1S8 10 ..1 17,101 .,1 103 24 . , 1 fiS 05 .. aai 25 ..1 18(i 01 18.5 04 . . i GC 00 ..i 178 49 ..1 a71 40 ..1 '^8 74 ..1 189 04 122 00 2.'.7 85 ,, .|;!7 22 190 04 lUU 42 M.') 85 274 04 \:,b 85 158 19 20 74 64 70 116 13 • 4 165 09 81 N«mc«. Amount. Nonicii. Amount. I)..), c. Dol. 0. gbniHliinkofT, Mntroiin lAO 10 flhunhiiikoir, (lrorf(o . . . . Shtnc, (.'ntlicriiic ,, , . ,. lfl7 09 17 (IS /iaii/i Acrouiit drawing 4 /)«r cunt. Tarrnkimnir, Kt rri k 179 04 ,Iohii Krnlin 1,4.18 .'10 Tctof, Veli'T 193 01 Kuv. Taul SliiiiNhiiikiifr a,.14l 74 Tclof, Nevu 1:12 H."! (,'iilliciiiir HIiutyuKnrn Miirkel Volkcff •m lr> Tctof, I'V'iloHiii , . . . . , 04 OH m:\ (IH TcrniKtiirn, A nun .. , , ,. HA 00 Kllon Volkoir Wtt 00 Volk«(r, Miirkfl . . I4'2 .'17 Aiilolia Heilick 101 17 Volkoir, Kllni 16H OR Kli/,nliutli Scdii'k . . !.';i (ii Yot'minnu<r, .lolin, i-Ktiito of.. .. 2.16 2;i ZoHlmr Hidick 101 IH Zaliitrno)!', KvrtMikn . , . , 66 00 NimIohcIu SliiiiHiiiiikolT u,r, ()u Will wit' Aiiid . . . , . . 170 00 Kcrrick Aiiniimiiiitr ,, ., ■i,'iKl 09 Korriuk Itutviiiii . . 2.94H :13 13..178 90 11.H84 04 tfolr. — From tlie North Amoricnn romniciciiil (lomjiniiy ten widowR ro- ctive wcpkly rntiotiH, and othcrn will . htTr U> 1)1' nddrd aonii. Total .. .. .. 25,2(i:J 84 Lint of AciconntH f ransfornid to tlio Nortli American Comincrciul Comi>any by the Alaska Commercual Company for Natives of St. I'aul Island, May 24, 1890. Numc. I'ctpr Knikoir Niroli Knikoir Maxim Krukoff . . Kntnto (if Pi'inin Koznolxoff Aggie IvuHliiii Jiihn Ko7.nol/,off . , Natalia Krukoff . . Pornscoviii Koxcroif Neon Miin<lri>gan . . Vnsili Scdolu . . Tcdteurift Mandrcgan Antonn Mclcvidon' Simoon Mulcvidoff Alex McU'vidoff . . Anexcnin Mcrculiff Alexander Merculiff Akoolenn Ncdarazoff Mori in Nfdi'rii/.off Daniel Pnrnucliin . . Uurliiira Pohomoff. . Parfarin Paiikolf . . VntBiliRia I'eenhinkoflf Aranaaia Popoff . . Ardotin Popofl . . Zaclmr Ilookoorthinkoif Anna Kczauiiofl' . . Agafy Shnposhinkolf Theodore Scditk . . Metrofnn Shutyiigin Rev. Paul Shiiiiihinkoff Agrafiiin Slialwlin. , Neon Shabolin .. Elnrcy Stepctin . . Marina Stoprtia . . Dorofay Stepctin . . Volioiaii Slinisliinkofi' Matronn SImlfihiukolf George Slinisliinkoff Catherine Shane . Kcrrick Tarraknnoff Fcdosia Tctoff . , Peter Tetoff Neon Tetoff Anna Yarantova . , Markel Yolkoff . . (for minor heirs) Occupation or Condition. Scolcr Scaler Widow Sealer Widow Senior Widow Scaler Widow Sealer Widow Sealer Widow Sealer Widow Minor 9culer ti Priest Widow Sealer Widow Sealer Minor Widow Sealer Widow Sealer Widow Sealer Amount. Dol. 0. 192 sr> 80 00 111 73 735 30 67 05 32 17 57 00 43 50 90 ,30 98 05 81 90 172 85 601 92 223 73 103 00 20 17 23 24 60 85 77 85 8 75 76 85 78 05 70 00 58 74 80 85 122 00 79 70 87 85 69 29 128 40 140 13 69 29 165 85 252 85 376 49 165 09 165 10 167 09 47 G8 70 85 110 6S 83 85 76 29 160 00 60 05 '^1 Ii H :-' > 1 i V ! if. ,'* i H i: i { -■ • : ■ i ii '■ i. f i. 4«i| L2.5] r mmr^mm ^•iWimPM mm Nnmo, Ocoupfttion or Coiiditiou. Amount. Dol. I'. F.Htuto of John Yntiiutmnufr, held for minor luirs • • •i7« a.l Mai'tliii Snrokon , . . . , . > . Widow .. 20 74 Mrn. Alex. Molovidotr .. .. •• tf • • • • 2'2.'l 05 KUon Volkcir ITnmftmcd. . •• 25 00 AU<x. MciTiiliir .. .. •• .. Healor • • • • 46 74 KeiloNlii Kodiriiiiiikofl . . , . . , • • 10 <i2 Kcrrick Artiininnotr ,, ., ,. Soalor • • 77 70 Ar»(>iM'v ArliiiNlmff . . . . »t •• •• OH 20 I'cti'r ()usl(-(;i)tr ., .. .. It • • • • 05 05 KiTiioU lltitoHiii , . , , . . . . 11 •• • • 121 05 Aj)rtllon liminloiikiifsky ft • • • • HI 85 Nit'oli lloKodanitr ,, .. •• .. 11 • • • • 8« H> I'lllcn ltclii);1iiKiiir . . . , , . . , Widow .. HS 00 (leoi);o Kmiiiioir .. .. .. .. Scaler • • 12H 05 •lolin Frntin ,. .. .. n • • • • 111,') 5.'> Nionli Oromotl" . . II • • • • laS H.'i VIndlniiir I'mkopiill' .. ., .. 11 • • • • ;102 52 .John filotoff II • - • • H2 20 I'lml Ilalx-ioff .. t1 • • • • 75 05 Ainisniii Ilopotr .. .. ., .. Widow .. 75 05 Alex. IlftllNlMl , , •• a. .. Senior 114 40 John Katrliooton .. .. .. .. »» • • • • 87 4U ■Iiioob Kntrlinoten.. .. .. ., 11 ■ • • 78 85 KiipluMiK" Kiiichooton . . . . . . 11 •• •• 73 05 Oenrjti' Kiitoliooton . . . . 11 » • • • 113 H5 Sto|iiiii Koxcroir ., .. .. ., 77 85 Ki'wi-kiii Zaoliiiroff , . . . , . Widow Oil 00 Kiir|i lliilosiri . , . . . . , , Sonlor 113 85 Stopim NoiliirnnolV. . . . . . 11 • • • • H3 H5 Eiiplicnio KoshrocnkolT ., . . . . 11 • • • • HO 85 8,870 73 0)1 S/ieritil Dqiimt at I ptr ttnl, ptr amiiim. Korrii'k Ai'tnmniioir .. .. ., Senior 2,281 00 Ki'irick Uute»iii . . . . . , , . )* • • • • 2,04H 33 .)oliii Knttiii .. . . . . .. 11 • • • • 1,625 00 Kov. I'aul ShniHliiiikoir I'ricst 3,341 74 fiillu'iiiio Slmtvn^iii ,, .. .. Wi<low 227 05 Mm kol Volkoir . . Si-nlor ,. 083 08 Kllon Volkoir Unmnnicd 343 08 Ai'dotiii Scdiok ., .. ,. Minor 104 17 Kluiiboth Sodick .. tt • • • • 03 01 /lU'lmr Sodirk . . . . , . . . ft • • • • 104 18 Nrdoniln ShnishiiikotT . . . . . , It • t • • 105 09 12,117 02 Total 20,087 75 I ''l J)isTuinuTioN of rrocccils from Fur-Seals tukou on St. Paul Island, 1890. Anpiist 1, 1890— 10.777 si>nl-skins, at 40 cents , , ., 53 »oal-t>kinfi, cut, ut 20 cents . . .. 150 senl-skins, rejected ., ,, 40 sea-liou skiuB, at 1 dollar ,, ,, Loss provisions at N. E. Point Total . . First Class. 1 . Hev. rniil Slinishmkotf, priest 2. Ai\toi\r Melcvidoff, first chief 3. Knrp Uuteiin, second cliicf 4. Jacob KoDchutcn .. 5. Oi orge Koochutcn, . 6. Thco. Scdick 7. Augio Cashing . . 8. Martin Nednrnioff.. 9. Stepau Kuzcroff . . Dols. c. .. 0,710 80 10 00 02 40 40 00 40 M . . 0,783 31 168 H) 158 10 168 10 158 19 158 19 158 19 158 19 158 19 .. 168 19 7t> Pols. c. 0,710 SO 10 00 02 10 ■10 00 40 50 0,7 H3 ;v) 158 19 158 19 168 19 158 19 1S8 19 158 19 158 19 158 19 158 19 88 10. Ni'on Mniiilrt'Kan ., 11. IVlor Krukoir 12. Niroli Kriikotr .. lit. Kvrrick 'rnrriikiinoflf U. Dimiol I'lirumiliia .. IS. Apiilloii lIurdiikofFiiky 10, /iivliiii' ItDiikiiriNlimknir 17. Ku|ilicni(< KiiNliiriiikuir 18, 8U'|)iiii Ncdiii iixufr. , 10. I'lirliii ronkoir .. '20, Niri>li (Iroinofl .. 21. Kliiri'y Su-pctcin .. '22. I'utor Ti'toll' 'J.'). I'ctor Otmlinoir .. 'I'uliil . , 1. Hinicoii Moli'viduir 2. Oi'iii'Ko Kiiii'iKiir . . .'). Miuki'l Volkoir . . 4, Ki'rrii'k Arlciiionoff 5. Kcrrick lluti'iiii , > 0. Viixili Sudiilo 7. I'^iiidiciiit' Kiiorliutoii R, Joliii KnitiK , . 'lolal . , 1. MctroOiti Sliiityogaii 2. ArHciicy Arkonliuff 3. Joliti dlotoU' 4. NciKHi Slioboliii ., 6. Ak'X. IlniiHuii .. 0. Neon 'IVtof SecoHii Clait, Third Clan, Total 1, Darofav HU<|)i'toiu . . 2, Jiiliii Koolcliiitin . . 3, Nicoli llogodiinofT, , 4, Vliidimor I'lokoiicifT 5, I'tuil lliiburotl' .. Tutal . • 1. Mnxim Krukoff .. 2. AU-x. Goliiktonoff . . ;i, Alex. Meluvidoir .. Totnl . . 1. Alex. Mcrculift' 2. John Kuznitzofl' Total Antone McloyidoQ', first chief Kurp Buterin, second chief Mrs, Tcrrinti Stcpctein Mrs, Peter Pceshenkofl Mn. John Ilopoff . . Total .. Fourth CUut, Fifth Clan. Sixth Clait, Special Clati, Dols. e. 16H lu 158 18 15H 10 158 10 ir,H 11) IfiH 10 158 10 15K lU 158 Itf im 10 158 li> 1A8 10 IS» 10 lAR 10 — 3,038 37 142 37 142 37 142 37 142 37 142 37 142 37 142 37 142 37 1,138 00 120 50 120 .10 120 50 120 50 120 60 120 50 75U ,|0 no 73 110 73 110 73 110 73 110 73 653 65 • • 04 92 • t 94 02 • • 94 92 « • 284 76 • t 79 10 • t 79 10 • • 158 20 • • 50 00 « • 50 00 • • 50 00 • • 60 00 • • 50 00 260 00 If I ; hi i j,; ^::k i M m [2951 •.4*M»»'^f»4 - *' ■cniiiH^^'MUt I" 2 m^^i^f^m^m I^PVW^ mmmmm 34 Tablk Nliowitig DislriljiilJon or lOariiiiigN nii St. Pnul Island for tnking Kiir-BualH in 18H1). t m |i !•.} No. Amount. ~ Fin I Class. Dolii. e. 1 1. Ilulrrin, Kiirn, ncrniid cliiol • • • • 627 HA i 2. KiiloliDOlpn, Jnciih . . * • • • 027 H.I ;l 3, KoU'luicitrii, (jforKO , • • »• 027 H.'i 4 •1. I.nlirk, ■riiooilori' . . .. 027 HS A 5. Hi<'|>lino, 'I'ononlin .. f • • • 027 Hft (1 0. Viittpiii, 'rciliimpy . . • • •• 027 H5 7 7. KiiNliiii, AkkIi- • • • • 027 H.'i H H NiMli'iiijiiitl'. Miirtiiii ■ . * • ■ • 027 Hft 11. Mrloviildll', AiiKinc, liriil chief • • « ■ (127 H.") 1(1 !(•. Kczfroir, I'lml t • • • 027 H.'i 11 1 1. Kc/.i'ioir, Sic mil 12. Miiiulri'niii, Ni'iiii • • • • 027 H.'i ri ■ ■ • • 027 H,5 13 1.1. l<nil>..ir, I'.I.T • • • • f,27 H.'i u 11. KniUoir, Niroli • * • t 027 H.'i \6 l.'i. iiinikniKitV, Ki'riii'k. . ■ • ■ • 027 H.'i 1(1 1(1. ruiiiiu'liin, D.mii'l . . * • at 027 8.i 17 17. lliuiiilrrkiit'Kk)-, Apollon • • • • 027 H5 1« IH. ItoiikiiiPKliinkon', /iiclinr • • • • 027 H« 11) 10. KoHliinki ft. Kiipiu'iliu • • • • 027 Hft 20 20. Ni'iliirii/oir, Slopiiii . . • • at 027 Hft ai 21. KriKin, Joliii • • • ■ 027 H.'i •2'i 22. ruiikilV. IVrfiri « • • • 027 HS 2.1 2;l. SiiMoliii, K.liiiy • • • ■ 027 85 24 21. Me or.'<(l..(l', Smioo!! , , • • • • 027 »r, •J.5 2.'j. 'IVl..ir, IVlpr • • • • 027 Hft 20 'Jli. (Ji'tiiiKiir, Nioiili . , • • • • 027 HS Srcond Clan. 27 1. VolkotV. Miirk.l .. • • • • 605 05 38 2. ArtomDiiiifr, Kiriek.. • • • • 505 09 20 3. IliiU'i'in, Kcrrirk • • • ■ 505 OS 30 4. IVoKliitik.iff. IV'ttT , . • • • • 605 05 111 5. Ilokor. ff, I'lml • • • • 505 05 32 0. I,o<luU', Viisdiloy • ■ • ■ 805 OS S» 7. Kolcliniitt'ii, KiipUcnic • • • ■ 566 05 34 8. Ilnpiitr, .lohii t • • * 5(i5 05 35 9. KmniiolT, (li'<irgo ■ • • • 606 OS 30 10. Oustii;. fl", I'cUr • • • • 566 OS Third Class. 37 1. Thutyngin, Mctrofim • • • • 602 29 3H 2. Arkiishdir, Artcuy .. • • • • 602 29 39 3. niotoff, John • • • • 502 29 40 4. Shiibalin, Nopon • • • • 602 29 41 5. IIhiisscii, Alvximdcr • ff ■ • 502 29 42 (1. Totoff, Neon .. 502 29 Fourth Class. 43 1. Stcpelin, Durofay ,, • • • ■ t • 439 49 44 2. Kotchootrn, .lohn , , • • ■ • • • • • 4.'J9 49 45 3. li.igilanoff, Nipoli . . • • • • • • • • 439 49 > 46 4. Trokopicff, Vladimer • • • • • ■ • • 439 49 Fiflh Class. 47 1. Krukoff, ^[nx<m • • • • • • •• 376 73 48 2. Gnlnkint ff, Alexander - • • « • • • • • 376 73 49 3, Motovidoff, Alexander • • • • • • • • 376 73 ^ Sixth Class. AG 1. Shnishukoff, Alexander • • •• • • • • 251 17 51 2. MercuUiff. Alexander . • • • • • • • • 251 17 52 3, Kiiznitzoff, John » • • • • • • • 261 17 Sptcial Class, Shaishmkoff, Faul (priest) • • ■ • t • • • « 1,000 00 i Two chiefs, each 100 dollars . . . . • • • • 200 00 \ Estate of C. Shaboliu • ■ • • • • • • 260 00 ' ^ Estate of A. Galkin • • 1 1 t • • • 260 00 Widows' fund Total . . • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • ■ 3,000 00 32,330 00 ■^^ i2iUkCMld^«^M^£&. ^'^-'^^''^^'bl^MfCtcuU^ivV ^-.-^L^. Recapitulation. N.l.T'il Hoal-nkiiii, nt 40 ornU . , 1,270 Rcnl-ikiim (cut), nt 'iO ccDt« 20 Ka-lion ikinii, at OU cciiIh . . liCM, for proviaior.i tn N, K. P. Total Doln, 0. 120 80 l,:i()0 00 Doll. 0. 33,4 H» no 2.')5 20 lA 00 33,7fi9 80 l.-iUU HO 32,330 UO Tlioai- in llio flriit oInM ilii. ilil Imvo rcccivvil 2.11 ilolliira, Ic-nvitiK to tlivir oruilit , . Thiiiir ill llip hccoikI pInH« kIidiiIiI Imvi' rcci-ivt'd 2()H tliillnrH, IcnviiiK to tlioir criMlit ., 'riidxc in till' tliii'il rtnxii uliniilil Imvo rpccivtil IH'2 ilolliirH, loiiviii|{ lo tlwir credit ., Tliimc in the fuiirili rlnnn nlioulil liiivc rcncivrd lAO lUdlurn, IvitvitiK to tlicir crt'dit . . Tlinitu in tlio fillli cIiiMa olioidd linve ipceivi'd I'l.'l dolliim, Ivaving to tlivir credit Tlioi>o in tlio Kcvcntli clnan xliould linvi- received iOI d< Hunt, Ivuviii); to tlieir credit. Dolii. 0. 171 00 Ifi2 00 133 00 Hi 00 132 00 00 (10 If the nccompiinjiinK innlriictiunR of llie Trcnanry nHcnt in cliiir)fc lind been complied with, the woulil Imvo Itceu in circiimstnneeii, fitinnciiilly, to meet tlieir unfortunate, but nut unexpected, conditi ilrorly fhown by the oinountM which iiliould liavv been In thoir credit. natirof I, condition, ns ii Dk. Account Cuiihent. Ca. (J.)— Tub North American Commercial Company in account witli tlio United States at St. I'aul iHland, Alaska. May 24, 1800— DoU. o. To oil fund trnnHfcrred by Alnnka Commvrcinl Company .. .. ..124 87 To nntivun gonci'ul fund .. .. .. .. .. .. 182 56 Db. Account Cukrent. Cr. (K.)— Tub North American Commercial Company in account with tho United States at St. George Island, Alaska. M»y 24, 1800— DoU. c. To natives gODcral fund .. .. .. ., .. ,, 193 12 (L.)— Census of St. Paul Island, Alaska, July 31, 1890. Age. Name*. Place of Birth. Occupation. Males. Females. 4 1^. AdamonoiT, Kcruck . . . . . . G5 St. Paul Island Scaler. ArlnmoiioB, Alexander, wife , ^ 30 St. Michael's Atlamonotr, Anxciina, daughter . , . . .. 24 St. Paul Island Imtioff, I'^odakia, sister . . . . , , . . 18 St. Michael'i) Arkanhoff, Aneny . . . . . , 25 • • St. Poul Island Scaler. Arkoshoff, I''uphoinia, wife , , 30 1, It • * Anslogoff, I'eter . . . . . , 27 • • St. Qeorgo Island . Austcgoff, Paroscoria, wife . . , , 23 St. Paul Island AustegofT, Stepanida, mother . , ^ ^ 56 St. Oeorge Island . . Irooofi', Anastotiia, niece . . . . ,^ 12 St. Paul Island * Sharthurkoff, Oeorge, adopted . . , , 9 ,1 »» • • BogdanofT, Nicoli . . . . 20 • • St. Oeorge Island . . Bogdaiioff, Fvronia, wife . . , , 21 St. Paul Island ; ' Bogdanoir, Zoehar, son i • • if 1* • Bourdukopsky, Appolvon , , . . , . 38 , ^ Oonalaska . . . . Sealer. Bourdukopsky, Chioni, wife .. ., • • 31 Bt Paul Island •_ Bourdukupaky , Peter, son . . . . . . 12 • • ti »• • ^ lloordukopskyiOuleta, daughter .. • • f» If ■ • r 1 odoihuskoff, Evdokia, adopted • • IS Gonahtska . . Bitorin, Karp . . . . . . , , 38 • • St. PauIIsland Sealer. Biitavin, Parawsovia, wife . . • • 36 Oonalatka . . I i: 1. 'V > r to- ft ''■ t \ V^ I:. :^:'I 11 30 Niinitu r I iiil! ilutiiTiii, CoiiHtnnliiiP, koii . , lliilnviii, Ivnn. hoii ,, Mrrukin, Miiry, ii(lii|iti'il . . Kiitiiriii, Kriiii'li . . Kuliirin, ('ntluM'ino, (laiiKlilor KiimiiDir, (f«M>rni>. . , , Kniiiiioll', Atitiii, iiiollicr . , KiixiiiMiiiiir, ildlin, luMilu'W . . Koriii'tiiiir, Aniiliii, iiicoo . . Kiiili", Jiiliii . , I'latiK, AliDiili'iin, will- I'ViiliM, SiiHiniiiji, (liiu^;lit('t' , KriiliH, Jdliii, Hull, . (ilototr, .loliii (iliili)ir. Mm V, motlirr . . <lioiiii ir, Nii'iili . , . . (Iri'iiiiill', Oulniiiiiii, wil'ii ,, I.cili'k, WIzalu'tli, iiilo|iti'il. . IIiiticK.ir, I'iml ,, Ki>li'lnioiiii, Knnliciiiiii Kdli'luioliii, IVIoniii, will- , . Homliiiinll', Mary, atlojitoil , . Kctrliiioliii, (ii'iirijr Knti'lioutiii, Maria, wife ., Kotcliootlii, I'rii'i', KOII Kutrluioliii, 'rirpiiii, sun ,. Koti'liDiitiii, Matroiin, ilaii);li(t'r Koli'liODtin, , iIau({)itor, inCaiit Kotcliiintiii, ,laroli , , Koti'liontiii, I'Vvroma, wilo Koli liiioliii, Onlcta, ila«nlit< r Koli'lumtiii, I'llli'ii, ilauj;litor Kotcluiiitiii, 'riu'iulura, mill. , Kiiti'liooiin, , son, iiil'aiit Sotlnslimkoll", Nalallii, adopti'il Koi>1i\vinlvotr, KiipliiMii ., Kooliwinki'tr, Aniolia, wife Kooliwiiiki'tr. Paul, .son KiTorotr, Siciian . , KcfiToll, .\na>tasin, wifp , . KoziToll', Tri'poil, ^oll Kcn'iiill, 'I'eonaliy, tlaii(;litor Noil kiiir. Si-mioii, stepson , . K'.ukoll', Sukoiia, adopted .. Knikol)'. IVtir .. .. Kriiki 11", .\iuia, wife . . Krukolt', Meoli . . Krukoll', Caihoiiiie, w ife . , KnikolV, .Metrofaii, son ,. Krukoll, Oiisteann, dauglitei- KrnkotV. Maxiai . . , , Krukoll', IVoi'tesia, w ife . . Krukoir. John, son Kriikiill', , sen, infnut . . Kus'iiii. .\j;(;ie . . . . Knsliin, Mary, wife Ku>liin, Sukeria, dauijhter, . Kushiii. Mieliael, son , . Shuposhmkotl', Yatinnn, adoptoil Mnntln'nu, Aetn.. Miuidrcau, Maria, wife Mardrenu, Jfnry, dauRliter Mnndrcnu, Zovn, dnuglitcr. , Sedieli, Ardolia, niece 8«dich, Znebnr, ucplicw . . Molvudoff, Antoiic . . Mclvudoff, Agrafeoa, wife . . Melvudoff, Alexandria, daughter Melvudoff, Olega, daughter Melvudoff, Mary, daughter Velvudoff, Alexandra, mother Melvudoff, Alexander, brother Sharohmkoff, Matrona, adopted 'iederozoff, Martin . . Wederoioff, Stepaa , . Ago. Milieu 'i'i \'r, •ir. r. •Ji 21 ■l(» ■If III I'i (> 10 8 8!) "7 15 a9 Vi 8 35 ii 37 '7 3*4 6 36 17 f • 37 34 I'Viiialoa. 18 18 IK) ij W 13 (13 J3 11 17 •iit 37 17 7 11 31 • • 10 '3 li? • • 35 3*1 • • i 2C 36 14 17 28 7 5 10 34 10 G 4 56 riaoe of nirth. 8t. I'niil Ulaiid Ooniilaiika , . St. I'linl Maud »• 'I Sadroiio InlaiidH Ooiiulanka . . St. I'uiil Inland Oiilialiixkii , . Alton .. St. I'liul Ixluiid Kodlak St. Paul Ixlaiul OiiimlaHka . , St. (lc'or|{)' Island 8t. I'nul Islaiia Oonaluska .. St. I'nul Islanil Ungn St. I'niil iNlaiid 1'ngn St. (ieorgo Island 8t. ratil Island ft «. Ooiutlaska . . St, Piiiil Island »» ). Uonalaska . . t» . . Sitka St. Paul Island At sen neor Sitka Sitka St. Paul Island *• «» Sitkn . . St. Paul Maud l» '» Krooslc Islanil St. George Island St, Paul . . St, Oeorgc Islimd Uonnlaska . . St. Ueorgc Island Alton . , St. Paul Island Kodink Atka St. Paul Island California .. St. Paul Island "i'«»imiiiiM, SiMiUr. Sealer. Sealer. Sealer, Healer. Stealer, Sealer. Scaler Sealer Sealer. Sculer. Scaler, Scaler. Sealer. Scaler, Sealer. Sealer. Sealer. Sealer, 87 Nnmui. XidiTiiU'ifl". Ali'xniidrn, wifo . . ^i'ilrr»/.i ir, Mnry, iiii-<!(< ,. ., S(iliioz(p(r, l'riil((i|iy, iM'plmw . . Snii'i"/"!)', Doriiicilont, ni'plunv ., I'liiilii'ir. I'lil'iiiii ■. ■ ■ .• |',iiik.iir, OIkh, wift< Piinkdir, Viil«ii', mill Ki'Mi/iilI, Niilnliii, iniilliir-iii-Iuw ,. rnrani'liiii, Diiiiiul ,, ., I'liriini'liiii, Ali'xiiiiilrii, wifo .. |'n>ki>|>ri'i>ir, Kliiilciniir . , . , ||wkii('rHliiul«'ir, .laclmr .. .. Kmikuiii>liinki>ir, AiilrHiii, wifo ,. K.hikonriiliiiiki'fr, Stf|Miii, nnn . . |((H>kiiiii'iilniikiiir, I'nronciivin, dnuglitcr Scdii'li. 'I'lli'ixlni'o ,, ,, :<(ill('li, Miirtliii, wil'o . . . . Si'ilirli, Annii, <lllll^llt^r ,. ., St'ilicli, AimHiiiNiii, (liniKlitor . , iH'ilirli, Miiry. ilmiKliU'r . . . . iN'llil'll, InllClkl'Mtll, Null ,, ,, Si'ilirli, Viixtiiiiii, iliiiiKliter, . ,. Snllili. I'liillip, iu'|ilif\v .. .. SliirKlinikoir, l(rv. I'luil , , , , Hi;i('>liink(in', Nmli'Mclii, iiioco ., Sli:usliiiik< fl, Viilcriiiii, iioplit'W .. Slmliiiliii, 'IVccoii, , ,. ., Sliiiliiillii, Ontilii, wife .. .. syidllii, A|{n'r(<iiii, (liiiiKlitcr , . Shiilitilin, A);rol'(<im, iiicillii'r , , Shutjn(;iii, (.'ntlioriiic , . . . Sliiilyiii,'iii, Motroriin , , , , S|iulyii(;iii, Oiililii, wifo , . . . Mi'ilMi(;in, I'liroiciiviu, nUlvv , , St'ilulr, Vmcly . , , . . . Si' lull', Mli/ulioth, wife ,, .. Si'iliili', Vdin, (liuightov ,. ,, Sii'|ii'tiii(-, Kliiiy .. .. ., Sicpilini', AniiH, wifo . . . , S|i|i"iiiii', Ontiinmi, iliuigliter Fr.ilii. lIlliMi, iiicne . . . , Sti|iitim', Korofay .. .. $lc|H'iiiu', Arilotiii, inuthcr .. T:iiakiii»i(r, Korricli . . . . riinil<iini)IT, Anna, wifo , . . , TtiolT, .linias ,. ., ., IVtoft', I'l'lor liloff, .Mniy, wifo ., ., Td'ir, Zai'har, bintlior . . , , raiifl', AlcNniidra, siBlor ,. ,. Gklii'ir, ('liroiiin, mntlior-in-law .. (Ili'liiilV, 'I'asan, siatcr-iii-law , , Volk.JV, Markfl .. Volkdlf, Alixniidm, wifu . . , . Volkull, infant, boy . . , . fl'iilotoi. AikaslidlV, Murtlia . , Zulimcnoft" Anxomin, niece Zaiznrnolf, Tassia, sistcr-in-lnw Halnksliiii, Mationa . . I'alakvliiii, Af;npia, nicoc . . Slinpooliiiikoff, Parnsconn, adopted litlKlazoif, mien . . TarakiinoH', Mary, adopted Knikolf, Natutin.. KrukoH', Jolm, son «. Hopoir, Aiiissia , . ,, llo|inlf. Nc-kitn, son Kozcioir, Aoilotia Kczloff, Parascovia K'czloff, Tcortoiia, daughter Kesldff, Michael, son Ag«. MiiU^a. <l 4 « • a nil iii) 8H i() ■i"i III so 12 2.'i DO 41) 28 2*1 1)8 i22 27 47 Infant Psmnloi. 11 3 au 10 2U • • HI 30 • t • • 2(1 2 ;»7 21 17 14 22 :) .10 24 si 11 a 7 • • 60 34 14 SI IB 38 31 14 25 42 13 25 56 15 39 24 30 33 13 Place of Uirth. Alton , . St. Pnul Ulnnd St. Cli'orno Hi. I'uul Ulnnd St. (Icorno St, I'lial Inland Ocinulunka , , Altiiii .. Ht. Paul Mand OiinHluKkii . , Ht. I'anI iHlnnd Oonnlaakn , . Ht. I'aul Ih and Ocoupfttlon. Onnalanka .. H. Paul Inland nonnlaHkn . . St. Paul Mand ,, .. Ht. Ocornc St. Paul Island Kodiak . , Oonulaska . . Ht. Paul Mund ,. It Oonalaskit . . Ht Paul Island Sitka St. Pnul Island »t It St. Oeor^o Inland .St. Paul Island .. .t St. CJcorgo litland Atka .. Oonalaskn . , St. Paul Island Oonnlanku , . St. Pnul Island St. Pnul Islund St. Paul Island Oonalaska , . St. Paul Island St. George Island Oonalaska . , St. Paul Islund Healer. Scaler. Hoalor. Healer. Hoalor. Sealer. Pricut, Oreek ('hurch. Healor. .,| Healer. Hcnier. Scaler. Sealer. Sealer. Scaler. Scaler. Sealer. i' ! , t >|: : [; l' i it; <, ' r i' rMi fftP m ■A J.! Ir W i r i 88 Age. — NamcK, riaoe of Dirth. OcciipaiioD. Malci. Females. ■ — i - Keilufl', Nicoli, noil .. .. ,, 3 , , St. Paul Utand Seiebremknff, Olgn, sinter . . , , ■:7 M It • • Mandrrgin, Yeatenia .. .. .. , , so >t 1* IS Kookoonkuiikofr, Anna, adopted • • fl »t t« • • MurcnlioflT, Anxeniia , , as 1* 1* • • Murrnlidfr, Alexander, son ., .. 10 , , tl «t • • Senior. Murenhoff, Martin, nnn . . 10 , , t1 *t • ■ Murenlioft, Ellen, daughter , , 12 1* |( • 1 Murenhoff, Tntoff, daugliter .. 14 t( |« Murinlioff, infant, Kon . . Infant a a 11 II • • Ardcrnzoff, Akoopena , . Arderninff, A);rofena , . . . , , 45 *t 11 • • ■ • 2i II II • • Ariliruzoff (infant ion of Agrofena) , . . , • • It It • • Pomnhoff, Itiirbra , , 41 II 11 • • PomohoflT, Sulomo . , , . , , 16 It If •• Morculuif, John, adopted , . . . . . , , • • II It • • Puabrukoff, Vas-iclesia . . . . , , 82 t1 tt • • Popoff, Ardotca . . , , 82 Alton Popoff, Kvrnsunia, daughter . . Ba nkahin, Anna, daughter ., ,, • • 1 St. Paul Island , , 8 11 tl • • Popoff, Aranasen, . .. .. ., Shitjagin, Dana, adopted . . , , 40 )• *t • • , a 11 Rezcuza, Anna . . .. ,, 88 Kosknpfrum? Galakloonofl, Claudia • • 12 Oonalaskn • • Ijcdich, Dana • • 48 It • • i • Kutehootin, John, Hon ,. ,. .. 21 a , St. Paul Island Scaler. Kutchootin, /enoria, daughter • ■ 2S |t It s • Katehootiu, Ellen, daughter , , 17 It t| • • Loi'okcn, Morth . . , , 21 Oonalaska • • Shane, Cutlierine. , . . . . . . , ^ 31 Sitka Shane, Mary, daughter • • 12 St. George Island • . Shane, Ficokia, stepdaughter • • 22 *i 11 • ■ Shane, Piirnscoiin Yuok ad, daughter , , 4 ft ii • • Shone, Kli very Yuoklad, son 3 a a St. Paul Island 'I'etoff, Foduuia . , . . a , 34 Kivcrlo Island Tetoff, Irene, dnughter 'J'etoff, Sofu, daughter , . . . . . a a 7 St. Paul Island • • 6 It tt • • Tetoff, Anxomin, daughter (dead) . . • • 2 tt n • • Kotcliergin, Ardotea, daughter . . . . • • 17 » II • • Torentora, Anna . . . . 72 II It < Turentorn, Anna, daughter . . . . • , ;i!) II II • • Volkoff, Ellon .. • • 36 II II •• Kvoliin, Meria, niece . . . . . . • • 11 tl It • • Znclmroff, Kiracha • • 45 Oonalaska . • /.:icharuff, Emanuel, son . . . . 11 • • St. Paul Island Zncbaroff, Fcodosia, daughter •• 15 II 11 • • Reoapitulation. Total populotion, July 31, IHOO Males — Adults . . fl (o 1 7 years Under 8 years . . Fciaales — Adults . , . . 6 to 1 7 years Under 8 years . . 913 42 23 12 73 41 22 213 (M.)— Cenhijs St. Goorgo Island, Alaska, July 81, 1891. . Ago. ITnmei. i Males. FemalM. T.estoiikolf, Rev. luokeiity , . . , . . . 60 • • LoHtrnkolf, Klniivta, wife . . . . , • • 66 LenlcnkoH", Miclmel, ion . . . , , 17 ■ • LcttcnkoH', Ilclcnn, ilnuxhtrr ,. . ( • • 24 Lestcnkoff, Mnrv, dauKhtcr . . , Lcitrnkotf, Snrnli, (kuRhtcr ,, • • ao t ■ a 13 RhniikiiiKknir, Juliii, grnnd-daughtor . > • ■ 13 Lettvnkolf, Ucmctri, widower , . 'id • • Lcstcnkoir, Anna, diiuf{)itrr . , • • a MurcnlivfF, Murk, adupted, . . , , 4 • • PhilnnionuH', Andronio . . . . ■i3 • • PliilnmonofT, /vnvolii, wifo . . • • 25 Philnmonotr, inrant ,, ,, . • • • • Qalanin, Oclina, widow . . . . . • • 27 Oalnnin, Evan, son . . , . 8 • « Prokopicf, Peter. . , . , , , 3S , , Prokopief, Fcdosin, wifo , , . . . • • 19 Prokopicf, Apnnnsin, brother , , 12 • • K jzniii'.nfl', FcdoHJa, widow . . . , ^ 46 Kcrjinxntr, Inokenty, son . . , . 12 • • Kezan/afT, Tcrafniin, grnnd-daughtcr . , , • • OnstegolT, Alcxa, widower . , 40 • • Onlnktinnoff, Alexander . . . , 39 • ■ OnlaktinnoiT, Oxcnia, wife, .. • « 18 Smctzolf, Eimtin . . . . . . . 39 . , Smctzoff, Krcstina, wifo . , • • 33 SmotKoff, QrcKorio, son .. .. 4 • • Philanionoff, KoP", -idowcr 45 • • Philamonnif, Grc^orio, son . . , 17 • • Philanionoff', Dcinctria, son ■ . , 3 • • Fhilamonotf, Kouimc, daughter . . Qorokoll', Corinal . . . , • • 16 M • • Gorokoff, Katerina, wifo , , • • 35 Uorokolf, Anna, daughter . . . . . • • 10 Qalairac, Pcrfor, brother-in-kw , . , 16 • • Oolaime, Alexander, adopted 4 . , Kuliknlieff, Evan 44 • • Kulikniiefl, Vnrvara, wifo , , • • 45 ArkolofT, Krdokia, adopted • • 4 »• .-..■- Shane, liaisha, widow . . • • 38 Shane, Uuletta, daughter . . . . . ff • 21 Shane, Michael, son ,. .. 2 • • Morenlieff', NntiUia, sister , . , . . • • 29 Morcniieff, Ncdesds, adopted . . . • • 10 Oustegoff, Olleta, widow , . B« 28 ■ Uustegoif, Simeon, step-son , . 26 • • Oustegoff, Agrafena, doughter . . , Uustcguff, Kproxia, daughter . . . • • 16 • • 10 Oustegoff, Michucl, son ,, .. 5 • • Oustegoff, Sosania, daughter . . • • 3 Oustegoff, Pcligia, daughter • • 1 Rognnzoff, Peter . . . , . . 44 • • Iteganzoff, Matrona, wife . . • • 48 Repuniioff, Fatiaiut, daughter , . . • • 6 Philanionoff, Simeon 40 • • Philanionoff, Eodokia, wife . . , 1 • • 17 .. Philanionoff, Eiriam, son . . . . . 19 • • Philamonoff, Imokcnty, son 15 • • ' ' Fhilamonoff, Fedosia, daughter • • 8 "' *" Philamonoff, Audrian . . , . 23 • • Philamonoff, ParoscoTiu, wife . . . > • • 26 ' Philamonoff, Peligia . . , . . > ■ » 2 . j Malavansky, Mary, widow . , • • 54 Alalavansky, Meolc, sou . . . . 25 • • ' ' ' '■ Malavansky, Wassa, daughter . . Malavansky, Reptcima, daughter . . . • ■ IS .— - ■ • • 30 Malavansky, Stcpmeda, grand-daughter • • 10 Malavansky, Kleopatra, grond-daugher • • 7 Malavansky, Peter, son , . . . , Nederozoff, Arkcnty 1 • • 38 • • Nederazoff, Eogenia, wifo , . . . . Nederaioff, Malima, daughter , , , • • 36 • •• 16 ll !<■ f I f \i \ '51 ill lit- I; t: N 4 I 1 A ■ I I i ' I; H [295J ""•"■-^■"'f^PPIIRPUpwwP" I '' ■ Names. Age. ' Males. Females. Nederazoff, Meoli, son . . . . . . Muenlieff, Frevonia, widow Muenlieff, Joseph, son .. .. .. Muenlieff, George, Mn .. .. Muenlieff, Stepenida, daughter . . . . > • Muenlieff, John, son (infant) . . Muenlieff, Hehna, daughter . , . . Smetzoff, Polozenia, sister . . i . • • Smetzoff, Frevonia, daughter . . Seeanoff, Stepan . . .. .. .. Seeanoff, Peligia, wife Seeanoff, son (infant) . . . . . . . . Merenlioff, Waselesia, widow Merenlioff, Evan, son . . Merenlioff, Alexandra, daughter . . . . . Merenlioff, Eodokia, daushter . . . . • < Merenlioff, Helena, daughter . . . . Merenlioff, Anna (infanQ , . .. .. 12 • • 18 16 is • • 36 • • 13 • • 5 30 12 • • 21 • • 38 • • 11 6 3 • • Recapitulation. Total population Males — Adults . . 6 to 17 years Under 5 years Females — Adults . . 6 to 17 years Under 5 years 90 Id 10 8 24 19 10 (N.) — Li3T of Accounts transferred to the North American Commercial Company by the Alaska Commercial Company for the Natives of St. George, May 24, 1890. Names. Amount. Names. Amount. Dol. c. Dol. c Ivan Kulikuliff 68 71 Meoli Maluoansky 187 00 Joseph Merenliff .. .. .. 70 00 Demctii Testrukoff 265 69 Peter Prokopeef .. 20 51 Gregorio Philamanoff 7 25 Okelena Galamu, widow 40 00 George Merenliff . . 10 25 Stepan TekanoS .. 126 00 Andronie Philamanoff 123 50 Russa Shaen, widow 61 50 Serafinea Rezanzoff, orphan . . . . 61 20 Andrean Philamanoff , . . . 125 00 Ncdesda Muenliff, orphan . . Ardokia Kikoliff, orphan . . Mark Merenliff, orpnan . . 201 49 Eoff Philamanoff .. 149 65 232 69 Mn. Sebutin Merenliff 146 00 211 39 Peter Rezaoioff . . . . . . 81 00 Ardokia Fopoff . . . . 74 46 Arkenty NedaracoS . . . • 164 00 Ogefinia Onstigoff, orphan . . . . IS 05 Alex. Qakktonoff . . 128 53 Fedoria Rezanzoff, widow . . . . 50 00 Simeon Philamanoff . . Eustin Swetszoff . . 166 00 164 00 3,691 87 Mike Testinkoff .. NauUe Merenliff . . 10 50 60 00 Rev. Irmokenty Testinkoff, priest 1,700 00 Inuokenty Rezanzoff . . . . Mrs. Zachn. Onstigoff, widow Connil Oorokoff . . . . . . 95 £0 St. George Church . . . . 1,394 65 127 Rn 167 00 3,094 55 Alexia Onstigoff . . Simeon Onst^ff . . . . . , 168 60 126 00 Total 6,786 42 . I ,1. 'S^uJ, tsis^SiL.. ales. 21 38 11 6 3 • • 90 . 19 . 10 8 . 24 . 19 . 10 sial Company by lay 24, 1890. Amount, • ■ • • • • • • • • • • • • t .. Dal. c. 187 00 265 69 7 25 10 25 123 50 61 20 201 49 232 69 211 39 74 46 18 05 50 00 3,691 87 1,700 00 1,394 65 3,094 55 6,786 43 ■ - '.'v , ' -.. 41 NoBTii American Commorcial Company, San Francisco, Cal. Division of proceeds of Sealing at St. George Island for the Season of 1890. [4,113 seal-skins at 40 cents, 1.644 dol. 80 o.] First data. Dol. u. 1 M. 0. LestankofT, Dimctra . , i« •• •• •• •• 85 66 Nederosoff, Arkenty , . k* •• •• •• ■• SS 56 ■*■ ' \u!itekoff, Alexage , . • •• •• •• St 85 56 Philamoiioff, Eoff . . • •• •• •• •• 85 56 Philnmonoff, Simeon . . • •• •• •• •• c5 56 Oorokoff, Comeiil . . »• •• •• •• •• 85 56 SwelKoff, Ensten •• •• ■• •• •• 85 56 i»8 92 Second Clati, Malaranski, Meoli . . •• •• •• •• •• 72 72 Philamonoff, Androniu , • •• •• •• •• 12 72 * Philamonoff, Andrcan • •• •• •• •• 72 71 SekarnofT, Stepan , . >• ■• •• •• •• Third Clan. 72 71 t 290 86 Kulikoloff, Evan »• •• r* •• •• 64 17 IlezaniH ff, Peter • •• •• •• •• 64 17 Onstckoif, Simeon , . • •• •• •• •• 64 17 Merculiff, Joseph • •• •• •• •• 64 17 Prokoploff, Peter . . • •• •• «i •• 64 17 Lettankoff, Mike • •• •• •• •• Special Claat, 64 17 }85 02 Lestankoff, Rev. iDoakenlz , • •''> •• ■• •• 200 00 •■' Philamotioff, Orcgorie ■• t« •• ■• •• 25 00 Philamonoff, Ephraim • •• •• •• •■ 25 00 Merculiff, George • •• •• •• •• 25 00 Golanin, Hafara . . , • •• •• •• •• 25 00 Jtezanzoff, Innakenty • •• •• •• •• 25 00 Nederazoff, Meoli . . • •• •• •• •• 15 00 Merculiff, John . . * «• •• •• •! 15 00 Philamonoff, Innokenty « •« • • •• ■• 15 00 370 00 Total • •• •• •• •• 1,644 80 List of Natives' Accounts c lue them by North American Commercial Company. Names. Balance Cr. Names. Balance Cr. Dol. c. Dol. c. Simeon Philamonof. . 216 56 Ephraim Philamonof 25 00 Alex. On^tegof Andrcan Philamonof 216 06 Pafara Galanin , , 25 00 170 21 Meoli Nedarazof . . 15 00 Andronie Philamonof . , 170 22 John Mcrculcf 15 00 Eof Philamonof 202 21 Innakenty Philamonof 15 00 Jot. McrcuUf . . , . 112 17 Rev. Innakenty Lestankof . . 1,800 00 Peter Rczanzof . . . . . 123 17 St. George Church 1,294 55 Slepan Sekhanof . . 170 !il Sebastian Merculif 115 00 r.ter I'rokopie .. ., .. 64 17 Nadvsdn Merculif , . 198 49 Simeon Onstegof . . 166 92 Zohor Onstekof . . 100 00 Uston Swetzof 209 56 Sorapheme Rczanzof 56 70 Arkenia Nednrazof. . . . 208 56 Ruse Shane . . 45 00 Corneal Goiokhof . . 213 56 Fedosia Uezanzof . . 39 00 Meoli Miilaranski . . . . . , 233 72 Okalina Oalonin . . 27 25 Demetia Lestenkuf . . 286 25 Andotia Papoff . . 64 46 Uilce Lestenkof 66 67 Eflokie Vickloff .. 228 19 Gregory Philamonof . . 25 00 Agzafina Oi tekof 9 80 Geori;e Meroulcf . . . . . . 27 00 Natalia Meroulcff , „ 60 00 Innakcntv Kezanzof . . . . Kvan Kulikoloff . . 98 50 Mark Merculif . . 205 89 102 88 [3«53 ■ ,• - *■ J G 2 •<1 M i 1 1 t ri\ ' ♦' [i I (O.) — Receipts of Ayenls Lavender and Murray. Island rj SC. Paul, Behriny's Seu, Alaska August 9, 1890. ' This is to certify that 16,874 fur-seal skins have this day been shipiied on board the steam-ship " Arago," Captain Thomas commanding, and consigned to the North American Commercial Company of San Francisco. This being the total catch on Sfc. Paul Island fotjhe season of 1890. (Signed) JOSEPH MURRAY, ; ■ Assistant Treasury Ageru, Island of St. Paul, Alaska, August 9, 1890. i Received this day on board the steam-ship "Arago," for the North American Commercial Company of San Francisco, 16,874 fur-seal skins. (Signed) H. C. THOMAS, Captain commanding " Aratjo," Island of St. -, Behring's Sea, Alaska, August 11, 1890. This is to certify that 4,121 fur-seal skins have this day been shipped on board the steam-ship "Arago," Captain Thomas commanding, and consigned to the North American Commercial Companies of San Francisco. This being the tcciil oatch on St. George Island for the season of 1890. (Signed) ALBERT W. LAVl'.?' ^ ^ 1 Assistant '^i.-asuiy Agent. f i i I'l Island of St. George, Alaska, August , 1890. Received this day on board the steam-ship "Arago," for the North American Commercial Com^Miny of San Francisco, 4,121 fur-seal skins. (Signed) H. C. THOMAS, Captain commanding " Arago," Washington, B.C., April 29, 1890. In case of absolute necessity, caused by scarcity of natives or otherwise, use hest judgment and discretion in allowing killing seals for skins after the 20th July. (Signed) W. WINDOM, Secretary. Charles J. Goff, Treasury Agent, Seal Islands, (Care Collector of Customs, San Francisco, California). (P,)— Protest of George R. Tingle. North American Commercial Company, St. Paul Island, Sir, Alaska, July 18, 1890. Your communication of the 8th instant was received, in v/hich you notify me, as Superintendent of the North American Commercial Company, that said Conipan) must cease killing seals on the 20th instant. The delay in replying thereto was with the hope that, as a result of our several verbal discussions of the propriety or necessity of your order, you would be convi»iced of the untenable position you have assumed and revoke the order, thus allowing the lessees tn go on with their buKiness as the law provides. Your announcement to me this ovening that you "-i ot revoke your order, and that your decision is final, leaves r, o 'nt one thii;: ' ' to do, viz., file this protest against the wisdom, justice, or \--i-o' ty of cnforci: ;. the lessees what we consider an arbitrary abridgment of onr ii^iits under and by vii. . of the law. The lease was executed by the Government of tlni ^^. iiid Stiitcs in pursuanci' of Chapter III, Title 23, Revised Statutes. ThJ : ( a»v niH.:.,iiy.iHl tlic Secretary «f ihe Treasury to prescribe from time to time 11k lluk'S un < ' ogulutions by wliii'li 48 (lie Treasury Agents in cliargc of the seal fisheries sliall bo governed. There ia nowhere in the Law any provisioi. authorizing the Secretary of the Treasury, after he has fixed upon the number of seals the lessees shall kill in any one year, to cut down ihe lime to such a date as to make it impossible for them to secure the number allowed tu be taken. The date you fix, the 20th instant, it is true, was named by the Secretary of the Treasury on your recommendation, but you received subsequently an order to extend the time or " use your best judgment." On the receipt of said telegraphic order the day before our ship sailed, you told the President of the Company, I. Liebes, and myself, that " it would be all right ; it was as good as we wanted," &c., satisfying the President of the Company and myself that you would extend the time, otherwise we would not have sailed until we received from the Secretary a postive revocation of that part of his instructions which cut us off on the 20th from killing seals. You said to-day that seeing that seals were so scarce determined you to stop the killing on the 20th, and yet you admit t)f having ordered Colonel Murray, o;i St. George Island, the Treasury Agent in charge, to stop our agent there from killing. This order was issued to Colonel Murray at an early date, before the killing of seals had limdly commenced, and it was not known whether they would be few or many. The law says the lessees shall give the natives a maintenance out of the taking of the sealskins. How can that provision of the law be carried out when the Qovernment steps in and stops the lessees from killing when they are taking 1,000 seals a-day ? By the enforcement of your order as the Representatives and Agents of the United States, you deprive the natives -^f a maintenance. You deprive the Government of large revenue. You cause tlie North American Commercial Company great loss. You turn over to the marauders and other natural enemies of the seals in the water many thousands of fine killable merchantable seals, which we could take without any detriment whatever to tlie rookeries. We have every reason to believe, from the marked increase of new arrivals of fine seals, that if we were allowed by you to continue our killing under the law, e could fill our quota of 80,000 seals. Believing this, we will claim damages from he Government of the United States equal to the loss we sustained by your act limiting the time to the 20th instant when we shall cease killing. This limitation of time has no precedent in the past twenty years, while the quota for St. George and St. Paul Islands was several times changed. The law fixed the time when the killing shall cease, but the Secretary can fix the number to be killed ea ;li year — not exceeding 100,000. In view of the foregoing facts, the North American Commercial Company respect- fully claim the right to be allowed to proceed with the execution of their business under and by virtue of their lease. I am, &e. (Signed) GEO, U. TINGLE, Superintendent, C, J. Gcfl", Esq., North American Commercial Company. Treasury Agent in chargo of Seal Fisheries. m Office of Special Agent, Treasury Department, I) '' r Sir, " St. Paul Island, Alaska, July 19, 1890. fotn* communication hearing date the 18th instait received, and, in reply, will say, as a subordinate of the Treasury De'^artmen'., I do not desire to discuss the subject- matter contained in your letter. I respectfully refjr you to the Honourable AVilliara Windorv Secretary of the Treasury, lo whoni your 1 jtter has been referred. I{espei,i:::'.];^ yours, (Signed) CHARLES J. GOFF, Treasury Agent in charge of the Seal Fisheries. Hon. George R. Tingle, General Monager, North American Commercial Company. ■t' I ft;f f: I' i m vJI ii:l if I -M f (2.) — Table shoving Number of Fur-Seals killed for skins on the Island of St. George by the Alaska Commercial Company, and also for natives' food, from 1870 to 1889 incluslTe ; the Amount of Earnings received by the natives of this Island for taking and curing these skins ; also Amount earned by St. George men on St. Paul Island and the distribution of said earnings ; the Total .Number of Fur-Seal Skins shipped from St. George Island by the Alaska Commercial Company from 1870 to 1889 inclusive. ' !;i Total Paid to Natives Total Year. Fur-sea) Skfais for taking and Fur-seals ToUl ■hipped. curing Skins. kiUed. rejected «t«gy. Dol. c. 1870* .. • • ■ • • ,, , , IB7lt .. 19,077 7,630 80 19,077 *87> .. • • • 25,000 10,000 00 25,000 1873 • • * 25,000 10,000 00 25,067 "c? 1874: •• • • • 10,000 4,000 UO 10,000 187SI .. • • • 10,000 4,000 00 10,034 34 1878 • • • 10,000 4,000 00 10,279 279 1877 • • ■ 15,000 0,000 00 15,143 143 1878 . .. • • • 18,000 ,,200 00 18,360 360 1879 • • 20,000 8,000 00 20,316 316 1880 .. • • • 20,000 8,000 00 20,358 275 188t • • • 20,000 8,000 00 20,233 126 1882 • • 20,000 8,000 00 20,316 291 1883 15,000 6,000 00 15,076 1884 15,000 6,000 00 15,000 ^^ 1885 .. 15,000 6,000 00 15,145 120 1886 .. , ^ 15,000 6,000 00 15,083 29 1887 ,, 15,000 6,000 00 15,166 76 1888 • • . . 15,000 6,000 00 15,179 113 1889 .. otal .. . .. 15,000 0,000 00 15,082 40 T 317,077 126,830 80 319,914 2,269 Distribution of Nati res' Earnings for taking and curing Fur.teal Skini. Tern. St. George EarningH transferred from St. Paul. Received by St. George Received by St. George Received by St. George Received by St. George Aged and Sick. Received by St. George Chief Received OonaJaska Received by St, Paul Church. Priest. Widows. as Salary. Priest. Priat, Dole C. Dol. c. Ool. c. Dol. c. Dol. c. Dol. c. Dol. c. Dol. c 1870*.. ■ • ,. .. . 187It.. ,. .. ISO 00 .. . ,, 1872 .. ,, ■ • 20 00 .. , ,, 1873 .. • • .. .. a ,, I874t. 6,000 00 ., .. , , , 187Sf.. 5,600 00 840 00 .. . 300 00 340 00 1876 .. ,. 160 00 , 160 00 160 00 1877 .. • • 250 00 ,. ., 250 00 250 00 1878 .. • • 300 00 .. . 300 50 1879 .. • • 380 00 .. a. 375 OO 1880 .. • • 1,000 00 .. a. 1881 .. • • 172 00 • • , ^^ 1882 .. ,, 100 00 700 00 ., .. ,, 1883.. ,, • • 375 00 ,, 90 00 ,^ 1884 .. 2,844 85 ,, 600 00 ,, 100 00 • • 1885 .. 3,036 OS • • 800 00 ,, 100 00 ,, 1886 .. 3,000 00 ., 800 00 100 00 80 00 ,, 1887 .. 2,500 00 ., 800 00 50 00 ., 100 00 ^, 1888 .. 1.500 00 • • 800 OU .. 100 00 ,, 1889 .. i.sno 00 • • 800 00 250 CO ] •• 100 00 .. ToUl .. 25.780 40 2,702 00 5,676 00 450 00 00 00 670 00 710 00 1,425 50 * No record of seals killed en St. Georgo Island in 1870. t 19 dol. 25 c. unaccounted for, X 15,000 fur-seal skins shipped from St, Paul to St. George and credited to St. George. § 14,000 fur-seal skins shipped from St. Paul to St, Cioorge and credited to St. George. a 34 79 279 43 143 60 360 16 316 58 275 33 126 16 291 76 ,, 00 ,, 45 120 83 29 66 76 79 113 )82 40 914 2.269 eceifed RectWcd by by >nalaaka St. Paul ■ricat. Priat. 46 RioxrirnLATi FuMOJi killed (or iklni on St. 6«orge Island by the AlMki CommoreUl Comptnjr, lad for lutWet' food, from 1870 to I8U9, inelniWe .. ., Fur-ml ikini abipped bj the Alukm Cominorcial Company from St. George IiUind from 1870 to 1889 .. Far-ieal akin* rejected and atagy . . . , . . . , , . . , Ueitrnction to aeal life in aecuring catch ou St. Qeorge from )i 870 to 1889 .. .. Ewninga receired by natire* for labour on— St. George Idand from 1870 to 1889 St. PtulUaad „ „ Donationa ■• •• •• •■ ■• •• •# •• •. Unacooanted for .. .. ,. ,. .. ,. ,, ., Expended by natives from 1870 to 1889 .. .. .. .. .. .. Baknoe to nativea' aceonnt on May 24, 1890, and uruedoTerbjAlaaka Commercial Com- pany to North American Commerciul Company , ■ , , , . . , S19.«l« <1 7,077 3,269 (68 319,914 DoL c 126,830 80 29,780 40 lft2,611 20 11,732 50 19 2S 134,073 03 6,786 42 132,611 29 ;-i JVo/r.— Total number of fur-seal pupa killed fur natif ea' food on St. George Island from 1870 to 1889, iadusiTe, 29,0fl0< GoK80iiii)AT£D Report showing the Total Number of Fur-Seals killed for skins on the Islands of St. Paul and St. George by the Alaska Commercial Company from 1870 to 1889, inclusive; also the Number of large young Seals and Pups killod for natives' food on the I'jlands of St. Paul and St. George from 1870 to 1889, inclusive ; the Total Number of Fur-Seal Skina shipped from St. Paul and St. George Islands by the Alaska Commercial Company from 1870 to 1889, inclusive ; the Amount of Earnings received by the natives of St. Paul and St. George for taking and curing skins, and the distribution of said earnings. Fur-seals killed for skins on the Islanil.4 of St, Paul and St, George by the Alaska Com. mercial Company, and also for nati\ea' food, from 1870 to 1889, incluslTe .. .. Fur-seal skins shipped from St. Paul ani St. George by the Alaska Commercial Company from 1870 to 1889, inelosiTe .. .. .. Fur-seal skins rejected aa stagy at St. Paul and St. George from 1870 to 1889 inclusive ., Fur-sols destroyed on St Paul and St. George in securing the catch from 1870 to 1889, inclusive .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. Earnings reoeived by natives of St. Paul and St. George frou 1870 to 1889, inoloiive Donations by natives of St. Paul and St. George from 1870 to 1889, inclusive . . Paid to Chiefs on St. Paul laland (St. Ui'orge's ia iacludud in donations) . . . . Paid to St. George men for work done oa St. Paul Island . . . . ■ . . . Paid to Kodaik men for work done on St. Paul Island , . . . . . . . Unaccounted for ., .. .. .. .. .. .. .. Paid to school teacher .. .. .. .. .. .. .. Expended by the natives of St. Paul an.l St. George from 1870 to 1889, inclusive , . Balance due to natives May 24, 1890, now held by the North American Commercial Com- pany .. .. .. -. .. .. .. -. -. Balance held by Alaika Commercial Company for Mrs. Melevidoff . . . . . . Fur-seal pups (five months old) killed fur natives' food ou- st. Paul and St. George Islands frum 1870 to 1889, Inclusive St. Paul Island from 1870 to 1889. inclusive . . St. George Island from 1870 to liibS, iaclus've 1,877.030 1,840,364 20,39S 16,273 1.877.030 Dol. e. 755,672 87 50,608 II 3,050 00 25,780 40 680 00 19 25 50 00 643,963 10 28,117 OS 3,404 99 755,672 87 92,864 63.804 29,060 92,864 li Ij ll'l 'i ; r ■ i: i !' U\ ift M r,'.. :1 < , ,,,, i^ i'l ■ ill ; r. 'I 'V '. ti:r; m I i ■■■■,-■ IS w m Table showing the Number of Fur-Seals killed for skins on the Island of St. Paul by the iMaska Con mercial Company, and also for natives' food, from 1870 to 1889 inclusi;'ej the Amount of Earnings received by the natives of this Island for takintf and curing these skins, and the distribution of said earnings ; the Total Kutnber ot' Fur-Seal Skins shipped from St. Paul Island by the Alaska Commercial Company from 1870 to 1889, inclusive. m Total Paid to Natives Paid to Natives Total Yean. Fur-seal Skins for taking and for Fur-seals Rejected shipped. curing Skins. goneral Labour. kiUed. »t«gy Skins. Dol. c. Dol. c. 1870 .. ,, 6,017 2,406 80 ,. 0,017 1871 .. ,, 70,134 30,853 00 580 40. 77,925 431 1872 .. ,, 74,941 30,416 00 221 97 76,698 I,53G 1873 .. ^ ^ 74,485 29,597 80 76 80 76,488 7J5 1874 .. ,, 89,924 29,849 60 217 53 97,932 596 1875 .. ., 89,687 30,098 00 276 03 91,215 451 1876 .. ,, 80,000 31,848 20 113 40 79,199 1,979 1877 .. ,, 60,199 23,981 60 146 40 62,813 1,088 1878 .. ,, 82,000 32,054 00 2,218 38* 83,034 981 1879 .. ,a 80,000 31,908 60 1,910 86t 86,592 1,977 1880 .. ,, 80,000 31,889 00 215 40 80,276 27.'> 1881} .. ,, 79,905 31,825 60 54 00 81,501 1,341 1882 .. ,, 80,000 31,750 80 250 50 81,420 1,414 1883 .. • • 60,000 23,896 80 97 00 61,987 1,775 1884 .. ,, 85,000 33,785 60 240 00 86,013 941 1885 .. • • 84,995 33,933 00 12 00 86,364 1,162 1886 .. ,, 85,000 33,941 80 134 00 85,689 G35 1887 .. • • 85,000 33,839 80 203 40 85,029 590 1888 .. • • 85,000 33,834 60 15 60 85,271 19C 1889 .. Potal .. • • •• t« 85,000 33,744 80 15 00 86,053 1 1,523,287 696,056 00 7,005 67 1,557,116 18,124 Distribution of Natives' Earnings for taking and curing Fur-seal Skim. Yeari. Received Received Received Received St. Paul Aged and Sick. Received by St. Paul Received Received Received Received by St. Gcor;c by by by Church for by by by Men for St. Paul St. Paul St. Paul translation Chiefs Oonalaska Oonalaska Work Jone Church. Priest. Widows. of Church as Salary. Church. Priest. on Service. St. I'aul. Dol. c. Dol. c. Dol. c. Dol. c. Dol. c. Dol. c Dol. c. Dot. c. Dol. c. 1870 150 00 », 77 20 ,, ,, 109 30 1871 910 16 ,, 614 82 ,. • • • • 455 08§ ^^ 1872 902 45 451 22 ,, ,. ,, ,, ,, 1873 870 62 435 11 ,, ,, • • ,, ^, 1874 859 06 429 53 ,, .. ,. G.OOO 00 ;| 1875 432 07 432 07 ,, ,, 432 07 ,, 5,600 00? 1876 757 12 ,, • • ,. 378 40 756 80 J, 1877 621 SO 621 48 ,, ,, 310 74 ,, ,, 1878 855 78 855 78 500 00 ,, 300 00 ,, 855 78 ,, 1879 822 24 821 50 200 00 ,. 450 00 450 00 ,. ,, 1880 813 10 813 10 150 05 200 00 1,219 65 450 W ,, .. ,, 188U 857 66 857 66 ,. ,. 428 8: 225 00 • • .* ,, 1882 ,, 1,000 00 2,650 00 ,. ,, ,, ., ,, 1883 ,, 750 00 50 00 ,. 225 00 ,, .. ,, 1884 ,. 1,000 00 300 00 ., 300 00 ,, • * 2,844 35 1885 ,, 1,000 00 ,, 1,000 00 300 00 ,, 1* 3,030 0,'i 1886 ., 1,000 00 200 CO 600 00 200 O'' .. 3,noo 00 1887 • . 1,000 00 1,500 00 .* 200 0. ,, .. 2,500 00 1888 ,, 1,000 00 150 00 ., 200 00 ., ,, 1,500 no 1889 •• 1,000 00 2,500 00 •• 200 00 •• •• 1,300 00 Total 8,851 7G§ 13,167 45§ 8,892 07 5 1,800 00§ 1,648 48§ 3,050 00 1,571 21§ 2,176 90§ 25,(80 40 • 1,022 dol. 92 c. aw ved by natives for making oil, under head of general labour. t 1,660 dol. 06 c. ,» ,, „ „ t 50 do Uars received b f school teacher. { 455 d ol. 08 c. rcceiv id by Dr. Kramer : first-class share. II 15,00 skins creditec to St. George men for labour; C80 dollars received by men from Kodiak for labour. 1 14,00 skins credite i to St. George men for bibour j 12 dol. 60 c. donated to Antone Melevidoff. - s Rejoctcd stagy Skins. 17 a 431 m 1.53G tJH 7S6 62 596 U 451 99 1,979 13 1,088 34 981 92 1,977 76 275 01 1,341 20 1,4U 87 1,775 13 941 G4 1,1&2 89 G35 29 590 71 190 53 •• 16 18,124 Received by ceWed St. Gt'Or^e by Men for nalaska Worli done fries*. on St. I'aul. Qol. c. Doi. c. 109 30 ,, 155 08§ .. 47 KlCAriTOLATION. Fur.wiiU killxl for iliiiii on the Ulaiul of St. Paul by the AlHkt Coinmorciiil Company, and alio fur natives' food, <rani 1870 to 1889, incluiive.. ,. .. ., Pur-inU killed for >kini sliipped from SI. Paul by tlie Alaska Commercial Company from 1870tol889 .. Par.aral akina front Sr. I'aul rejected, alagy ,, .. .. ., .. Dcttruction to >eal life on St. I'aul liland in u-cnriiig ratch from 1870 to 1889, ini'luiive. . Fur-aeaU, of all claiH't, kllli'd for nativi^a' food on St. Paul Island from 1870 to 1889, incluiive .. .. .. .. .. >. •• ■. Pur-icaU (large young nealii) kille.l fur nativea' food, of which the Alaska Commercial Company accepted and shipped 62,873 skins . . .. .. •. •• Pur-sral paps (five months old) killol for nntires' food from 1870 to 1889 >• •• Earnings received by natives of St. I'aul Island fioni 1870 ti 1889, inclusive .. Donations received by natives of St. Paul Island . . . , . . PaidtoChiefs Paid to St. George men for labour on St. Paul . . . . . . , . Paid to Kodiak men , , . , . . . . . . • • , • Paid to Bi-hool teachrr . . . . . . . . . ■ With Alaska Commercial Company for Mrs. Melcvidoff .. >. Kipended by natives from 1870 to 1889. . Balance due to natives May 24, 1890, with North American Commercial Company ; ,,:• - .♦ Total 1,557,116 1,523,287 18,124 15,705 1,557,116 144,801 80,997 63,804 144,901 Dol. c. 603,061 67 38,875 61 .1,050 OU 25,780 40 680 00 50 00 3,404 99 509,890 07 21,330 60 603,061 67 ., 2. Report of 8. R. Nettleton. ' ' ;-. ' Dear Sir, St. Paul Island, Alaska, July 81, 181*0. I have the honour herewith to submit my annual Beport of the condition of affair.'^" oil this island during the time in which I had charge, to wit, from the 28rd September, 1889, the date of jour departure, until June of this year, and also to comment briefly gpon the condition of the seal rookeries and bauling-grounds of this island during the season which closed on the 20th instant. I have found the natives of this island ."n exceedingly easy people to govern and control. The Government Agent in charge, being the sole representative and executive of the law, is, as you are aware, necessarily brought into very close and intimate relation!^ ivilh these people, having to do with the minutest details of their everyday life. My comparatively brief experience in governing them convinces me that a policy of kindness with firmness, and an appeal to their manhood and womanhood, hold the best promise of good results, having in view tlieir happiness and their advancement to a higher and a better civilization. I believe that it Mould bt, difficult to find anywhere within the jurisdiction of our Government any people so easy to control, considering that they are kept in enforced idleness ten months of each year. I regard their readiness to comply with any and all Rules and Regulations of this Office for their government as testifying to their manhood and good citizenship. In this connection, it affords me great pleasure to report that during the time that I have had immediate charge there have been but three instances of violation of any Rule or Regulation. These were mild cases of partial intoxication during their holiday festivities. There has been no drunkenness or brawling in the village streets or in the homes of (lie people, not a single breach of the peace. It is a source of gratification to be able to state that tlie journals of this Office show Ihat in this regard the winter just closed presents an exception to those of any of the preceding twenty years. The fact is patent that but little advancement has been made by the natives of this inland towards an intelligent American citizenship during the twenty years that they have been nominally citizens of the Republic ; that not to exceed 10 per cent, of them, who (lining the time mentioned, have attended English schools, speak the English language. Tills may be explained by the well-known objection of the parents to their children learning to speak English, and to the further fact that the services of their Church, the Greek Catholic, are conducted wlioUv in the Russian and Aleutian language. [295] H if ' r.'mj H> ■■'■ S':4k;'tH^:^:. ^mmmmm mmmm • 4« The small adrancement made by the pupils in the schools is attributable aUo in large measure to the fact, that the schools have been conducted by persons not trnined to the profession of teaching. It is, in my opinion, to be regretted that the Department, in granting the new lease of the Seal Islands, did not reserve to itself the employment of the school teachers, who should liold certificates showing their qualification to teach, at least, the primary branches in our common schools. In relation to the condition of the seal rookeries and bauling-grounds of thi» island I do nnt feel called upon to go into details in view of the full and exhaustive manner in which the subject is treated in your Report of this year, and also in view of the forthcoming Report of Professor H. W. Elliott, who was sent by the Dcpnrlnienl especially to examine and report upon the condition of seal life on this and the Island of St. George. But I desire to add my testimony to that of my associate as to the deplorable condi. tion of the seal grounds upon this island. The large grass-grown aioas of these grounds until a comparatively recent period occupied en masse by seals, to be numbered hy the millions, and now wholly deserted, the driving and redriving from all of the hauling. grounds on this island by the lessees during the present season in their efforts to obtain their quota, and the meagre results attained, tell, in stronger language than 1 can command, the sad story of the very near approach to the entire destruction of seal life upon this island. It is hardly worth while for me to attempt to theorize as to the probable cause of the condition of affairs. I deem it sufficient for me, at this time, to corroborate and, if possible, to emphasize what you say in your own Report, as to the past, present, and the threatened future condition of seal life upon these islands. The present depleted condition of the seal rookeries on tliis island urgently calls for prom])t action by the Government to save this important industry from immediate 4ind complete destruction. I heartily concur with your views expressed in your Annual Report of 1889 in regard to the killing of pup seals for natives' food. The skins of these pup seals belong to the natives, to be disposed of by them as they choose, the only restriction imposed being that they shall not be exchanged for contraband goods. I desire, through you, to call the attention of the Department to the fact that these pup sealskins, being largely held by the natives for the purpose of barter for spirituous liquors with the seamen of any craft that may anchor in these waters, are a source of evil, and only evil, to the natives. In view of this fact, and also in view of the further fact that the seal life on this island is rapidly approaching extinction, I respectfully suggest that the best interests of the natives and the best interests of the Government will be the most effectually served by prohibiting the killing in the future of any pup seals for native food. Some more economical substitute can, in my judgment, be readily supplied. I am, &c. (Signed) S. R. NETTLETON, Charles J. Goff; Esq., Assistant Treasury Agent. United States' Treasury Agent in charge of Seal Island. 3. Report of A. W. Lavender, Office of Special Agent, Treasury Department, Sir, ».'.'•/• St. George Island, August 25, IS90. I have the honour to report to you that on the 14 th August, and while the United States' revenue-steamer " Rush " was lying at anchor off our village, a schooner came in sight close in to the east end of the island. This was at 5'30 p.m. The " Rush " at once got un'ler way and steamed towards him, and followed him in to the anchorage in front 01 th'j village, where she lay all night between the cutter and the shore. She proved to be the American schooner " Nettie Martin," Captain Ohlmitz, belonging to Kodiak. She is about 16 tons measurement, and has a crew of four white men and four Kodiak natives. She had on board ten sacks of salt and four shot-guns, also two sea-otter boats. The captain said that he was from Eusoqnim, bound to Oonalaska. His papers show that he had cleared from Kodiak on the 20th June, bound on a trading and coasting voyage alon^ the coast of Alaska, and for a further excuse he said that he was short ..J!AJiit&;i,Jki^:^-hi*m-^^isii. 4\) of provisions, and the wiAd liad been blowing so long from the south that he must bo supplied. I did not take any stock in what he said, and would not allow idm to come on shore, And told him that the cutter cuuld supply him with all the provisions he required. I believed him to be a seal poacher, but there was nothing on board tiiat wc could attach. ^Ve were obliged to let him go, for which 1 have been mad at myself ever since, and as I hiid men watching the East Uookery, the only place where he could land upon the island, I hnd no fear of his ever going on shore ; but early on the morning o^' the 15th I sent extra men around the island from Garden Cove to the eastward, and under the high blufl'ii at the east end of the island, about 2 miles from East Rookery, they found four dead cows and four dead pups, also three clubs, one of which was broken. These were made of drift wood, and two of them had a little flesh upon them. At this time of the year the cows and pups nrc scattered along the rocks on most all parts of the sea-shore of the island, and by chance tlie boat's crew that landed came upon a few of these, w hich they killed, and the schooners, while beating to windward to get into on anchorage under the high cliffs, came in sight from the cutter, and it is my opinion that the men on shore got into their boat as soon as they could and went on board the schooner. Tiiey did not take any seal with them, and had to get out of the scrape the beat they could, which they did to perfection. Had the schooner not been away at the time the natives brought the clubs into the village, I would have had them caught, but the schooner and cutter both being gone, I could do nothing but kick. If I again come across Captain Olilmitz this far, I will endeavour to make it uncomfortably warm for him. If he had landed upon East Rookery he would have done some damage. It was blowing very hard at the time, and I have no doubt but he intended to anchor close under the cliffs, and go upon the rookery at night and get all the seals he could. Since that time I have established a watch-house at Garden Cove, and keep two men there all tlie time. No vessels can come near the island on cither side without being seen. There never was a watchman at Garden Cove before. The seal are very scarce on this island, and in order to get enough for food for the natives I am obliged to kill seal whose skins will not weigh over 4|^ to 6^ lbs., and these the Company will not accept, a^id I am salting them for Government account, and shall probably have some 600 or 700. They are all good skins. Please obtain an order from the Secretary to ship them on one of the first Government vessels going to San Francisco the next season. I also request that you obtain permission to purchase a new carpet for the Government House on this island, as the carpet we now have on the floor is nearly worn out. Also please obtain from the Department for this island the following seeds : 4 lbs. good turnip seed, 4 lbs. good lettuce seed, and 4 lbs. good radish seed. I have never seen vegetables grow better in my lif«3 than they do here, and it would surprise you to see now what a fine bed of lettuce and radishes we have here now. In obtaining the seed, please get seed that has been grown as far north as possible. The natives of the island are a much superior race of people to what I expected to find, and I do not anticipate any trouble here this winter. Charles J. GoflP, Esq., I am, (Signed) &c. Treasury Agent, Clarksburgh, Washington, Virginia. W. LAVENDER, Assistant Treasury Agent. 4-i.lr.-L ■^1 1! M5, r I •\"\ '.t i \ 1:1 I. III I % y. ••; ^-H A ■' •::,f.J _ ,•'•■' -." .L ''ji'i.;:,J ,4Kiiijjii ■* ,<;*!,. ■i} iUtl/yd-.! [295] H 2 I 50 • 4. Report of A, W. Lavender. . Office of Special Agent, Treasury Department Sir, St. George Inland, October 24, 1890. * I liave the honour to report to you that United States' revenue-steamer " Bear " returned to tiiis island on the '2'2\u\ instant from Oonalaska unexpected to us here. Captain Healy told mo that orders had been sent from the Department to watch the ronkcrios very close, as there hnd been two schooners cleared from Victoria for Helirinif's Sen, and that they were i^oing to raid these islands. I have not seen a schoonor around here since I Inst wrote you, nor do I think that there is a single schoo.-.er taking seals in Behring's Sea at this writing, and unless they come within the next two weeks there jvilj not he any seal upon the rookeries for them to kill. I have again to request you to do your best to obtain arms and ammunition for these islands, and hope that you will be able to secure them, for without them the rookeries cannot be protected in a proper manner. The old riHea that answered for the protection of the rookeries belong to the natives, and are of but little use. In addition to the five rifles owned by the natives, the Company has found small Colt's rifles and one large Sharp's, with very little ammunition for any of th'.m. We have hnd three deaths here this last week, all three females. At this writing every adult i alive on this island is cither sick in bed or convalescent. Both church and school have been closed for the last two weeks, and I have been obliged to have boys only on gujird at the rookeries. I think that the worst is now over, and do not apprehend that we shall have more deaths. There has not been any sickness among the white men up to this date, and everything upon the island is going along smoothly. On account of 80 much sickness, I have been obliged to issue coal to the natives sooner than I should have done under more favourable conditions, for these people must be provided with more fuel now that the catch of seal is so small they cannot secure near blubber enough, with what little drift wood they can collect, to last them through the winter, and to purchase coal from the Company at 30 dollars per ton of 2,000 lbs. is more than they can stand out of their earnings for killing seal. Their houses are small, with only two rooniB each, and with a large family to be all sick at one time is almost certain death with nothing more to keep them wenn than the few pounds of coal furnished them by Govern- ment, and the little wnter-soaked drift wood that they have been able to pick up around the island and bring home on their backs, for they have no other means of transportation ; the fact is that the only places that drift wood can land upon this island is at the breeding rookeries, where they are not allowed to go during the season when the seals are there, and it is my opinion that these islands will soon be depopulated unless the Government comes to their rescue, for the few seal they will be able to kill here the next few yean will not keep them from suffering. Of Captain Healy, of the "Bear," and Captain Calson, of the "Rush," I cannot speak but in the highest terms. These gentlemen have been very courteous and obliging to the Government officers in charge of these islands, and have also extended all possible favours to the Company ageats when it was not interfering with tiieir instructions. The weather here the past month has been very bad, and we have had three verj heavy gales of wind, so that I cannot think it possible that a schooner should stop in Behring's Sea at this season of the year. But I do think that they will follow the seal into this sea very early in the spring. As the seal begins to come upon the rookeries the last of April, I think the schooner will follow them very close. I would suggest that you place this letter before the Secretary, as well as my letters to you under the following dates, 14th August, 10th September, and 1st October, that he may know the true state of affairs upon this island. Very respectfully, &c. (Signed) ALBERT W. LAVENDER, Charles J. Goff, A/Distant Treasury Agent, Treasury Agent, Clarksburgb, Washington, Virginia. ■■iOD ^^^r^mtifrp*?My*7S'w?^ > 51 5. Rrport of A. IV. Lavender. » ' ; . Office of Special Agent, Treasury Department, ,,' Sir, St. George Island, October 30, 1890. 1 have the honour to report to you timt tlie United States' revenue-cutter " Benr " is still in these waters, and at this writinj? is lying at anchor at Zapadino. We have not seen but one schooner since the 18th ultimo, and that was tlic whaling- schooner "Alton," which anchored at Garden Cove to secure brine boats previous to leaving these waters for San Francisco. The only tmeiny the seal and seal-pups have uoiind these islands now is the kitten wiinlos, which are in large schools destroying pups in largo numbers. We have had very severe weather hern most all the year, and I cannot think it poisiblo that there is a scaling-schooncr on Behring's Sea at this time. The natives are most nil on the improve, and we have only had one death since I last wrote you, and that was a young girl of 11 years old, and she died with scrofula and »enernl debility. The natives on these islands must have more furs, or they will suffer next season much more than they will this, as most of them have a little money to purchase wood, three sticks for 60 cents. They should have at least 70 tons of coal for this island jlonc; drift wood is very scarce, and they have no blubber this season. The Secretary, in his instructions, should say how many rations arc to be furnished to the widows and orphans on this island for every week in the year, and this also should be left in the hands of the officers in charge. The seal are nearly all gone from the rookeries now, and it is almost impossible to jet enough for native food. I shall have about 600 rejected skins here in the spring, for which please get orders to ship on one of the first ships that goes down. The Company will not take skins less than G^ lbs., which is the cause of my having w many rejected. In order to get enough for food, I have been obliged to kill small <cal. [ hope that you will be able to secure arms and ammunition for these islands, as they are needed here very badly, I will assure you. If it is possible to change the school system here, it shoidd be done, as the schools here now are only a farce, and I think if they were put under the charge of the Rev. Sheldon Jackson that it would be a big improvement ; in fact, there could be no change that would not be for the better. It locks strange to me that after twenty years' teaching that there is not a single one of the scholars on this island that can speak English, and most of them have no knowledge of the world outside of these islands. Hoping to see you up here early the (Signed) Charles J. GofF, Esq., Treasury Agent, Clarksburgh, Wasliington. ALBERT W. LAVENDER, Assistant Treasury Agent. 6. Report of A. W. Lavenac^; My dear Sir, Oonalaska, March 19, ISflO . I am in receipt of yours of this date, asking me to visit the condemned schoon®'" now lying near the head of this harbour, and to make you a Report as t: the valuatio'^ of each one when new, also the present condition and valuation of each ■■%- .s they now remain ; and, in reply to same, I will say that upon receipt of yours of cv (,u date I went at once on board the steam-schooner " Thornton," of Victoria, British Columbia, and found her to be a small steam-schooner of about 45 tons measurement, built of soft wOod, raostly Oregon pine, her engines about eight-horse power, her bottom yellow metalled ; >ll her running gear was down in her hold among iron rust and dirty water, and of no value whatever. I did not find any sails on board, her anchors and chains are both attached to her, but are very light and rusty, most of her small spars are gone. I should think, when new, that 7,000 dollars would be a fair price for her, including her engines I and all other accoutrements, ready for sea. Her present value is nothing more than her 1 rigging and metal would sell for, less freight and expenses, and 200 dollars would be I a good price for her. From the "Thornton " I went on board the schooner " Carolina," of Victoria, British m V 'i . i :i 1^^ £-..ii ,1 I' fi HH , 6* Coltiinhiii, luul found her to bu ii sinnll keel vcsacl uf about 32 tons, Tlic ruiiniii;^ rrQ^^ wnn all (l()«n in the liold anion;:; iron rust and scft water, and is of no eartiily U'^e ■ licr main boom and galf and boom to the jib were all the Hniail npars I could lind' belongin^j to her, «)niy one small anelior and ehain wan on board, which is covered witli rust, and is very small and oi' little value ; her standinft* ri^^ging is of wire, and, | slimilil say, that when new and ready lor sea that her cost would not exceed 2,500 doilnis at |||,. outside. I did not see any of her sails on board. Tlie present valuation is notiiino i,|„,.^, than she would sell for as Hrewood, and 25 dollars is more than I would bo willin^r („ pay, ami more, in my opinion, than the Oovernment will ever receive for her. Hlu- i, built of soft wood, mostly Ore^jon pine. From the " Carolina " I went on board tlic"An}j;el Dolly," of 8an Francisco, niKJ found her to be a smnll centre-board schoojicr of about 40 tons measurement. The niaiii masthead was broken oil', the standing rigginf;; is of wire. The running ••■ear was down in the hold, and in the .same condition as tiuit on the " Carolina " and " 'riioriitini ; " all her small spars arc on board, both anchors and chains are attached. Tliere were homo of her sails on board. She probably cost «hen new 3,000 dollars all ready for sea; lar present value is very little, and 100 dollars woulil he a good price for licr a^ she now lies. She is also built of soft wood. The water ri-^es and falls in her and in all the others a-. the tide ebbs and Hows. I understand that her .sails are in the (Jovernment warehouse here, also three of her boats. From the "Angel Dolly'' I visited the schooner " Onward," of Victoria, IhJtisli Columbia, and found her to be a small two-masted schooner of about S;"* tons, with iieini) rope standing rigging ; her small spars are on board, both anchors attached and in t'nir con(liti(m ; her running gear was down in the hold, and ivorthless as the rigging of the other three schooners ; there were none of her sails to be found on board. 1 should snv that this schooner was built in Nova Scotia ; she is made mostly of soft wood, principaHy pine, and wiien new was a lino little vessel, and i)robably cost ready for sea ahoiit 4,500 to 5,000 dollars. At the i>rcsent time she is almost worthless, and I do not tliink that she would sell for more tlian 200 dollars, although she could be made, with iibout 1,0C0 dollars paid out in repairs, a vessel that would sell for about 2,500 dollars, providoil her sails are in good condition. I also found nine canoes on the shore near the sclioonei which b(!longs to some of them, but, like the vessels, have gone to ruin llnongh waiitol' care. Should you require a more detailed Report thiin this please let mo )w, and on my return to Oonalaskii 1 will be pleased to make it for you; and in 'nntiiiic I remain, &c. (Signed) ALBERT W. LAVENDER, Charles J. Coil', Es(|., Assistant Treasury AijenI, Chief Treasury Agent, Seal Islands. No. 2. air J, Pauncefote to flip Marquis of Salisburi/. — {Received May 21.) 'I. My Lord, ' Washington, May 11, 18!)]. WITH reference to my telegram of yesterday, I have the honour to inclose au extract from the Cleveland " News and Herald " of the 4th instant, purporting to give the foil tcit of Professor Elliott's Report to the fSecretaiy of the Treasury, dated the 17th November last, on the condition of se il life at the Pribylotf Islands during the summer of 1890. Your Lordship will remember that Professor Elliott was appointed Special Commis- sioner for the purposes of the above inquiry by Act of Congress, and that, as stated in my despatch of the 20th February last, his Report was not included among those of the other Government Agents which were transmitted to the Senate by the Secretary of the Treasury on the 9th February. It has not been yet officially published. I am informed that the document published in the inclosed extract from the Cleveland "News and Herald" is incorrectly styled Professor Elliott's Report, and that it is only the introduction to his Report in the form of a letter to the Secretary of the Treasury. The Report itself is a much more voluminous document, but the introduction givea its substance and its recommendations. i. ..limh I have, SiC. ", . ' •.. -^v. (Signed) JULIAN PAU^fCBFOTE. lUNCBFOTE. w " Inclusuro iu No. 2. '• ' '• Extract from the " Cleveland Leader and Morning Herald" of May 4, 1891. Special Despatch to the " Lender." Washinifton, May 2, 1891. THK nogotiatioriH botwocn Henretury DIninc and the British Minister for the fiettle- iiicnt of tlic ik'Iiring's Sea troubles arc likely to be resumed as soon as the " Sayward" case, taken into the United States' Supreme Court from the District Court of Alaska, i? ilispoiiod of. Mr. Blaine is now in possession of exact and reliable information as to the ooiulition of tlio scaling industry not at his disposal before, and which cannot fail to impicss the British Minister, Lord Salisbury, and everybody else, with the necessity of nn immediate «!nforcemcnt of the policy adopted by our Government in seeking to prevent the killing of seal in the open waters of Behring's Sea. The information ri't'crrod to shows a good deal more than that. Ft shows, what was perhaps imexpected, that the threatened extermination of the seal is duo in large part to tlie legalized driving and killing on land by the lessees of the sealing grounds, v.hich must also lie suspended if seal life is to be preserved. With these facts established by evidence- that no one can dispute, there ought to be no great dirticulty in effecting an agreement between the United States and Great Britain for the immediate prohibition of any scal- killin;;' l»y anybody the coming season, and a subsequent arrangement that will avoid any further conflict over this question. Wiicn the "Sayward" case was appealed to the United States' Supreme Court, the negotiations were in what appeared to be a confused and unsatisfactory state. Sir Jnlian Pauncefote had embarrassed Mr. Blaine by quoting President Cleveland's Special Agent at the scaling grounds, Mr. George R. Tingle, who affirmed before a Committee of Congress that the seal was increasing in number, and that the rookeries \terc never in better condition ; and Mr. Blaine was dilating at length upon the historical rights of the United States in Behring's Si .. But he was quietly doing a good deal more than that. He was having the actual condition of affairs at the sealing grounds thoroughly investigated by Professor Henry AV. Elliott, of the SniitJKsonian Institution, a Special Commissioner appointed in pursuance of the Act of Con^jress approved on the 6tli April, 1890, who is the best living authority on koal life ; so that he might be able to demonstrate the falsity, or gross inaccuracy, nf Mr. Tingle's testimony, which could not be refuted in any other way. Following is Professor Elliott's Report, submitted to the late Secretary Windoni, in Xiivcmber last, and which is now made public : — Hon. William Windom, Secretary of the Treasury. I Sir, Cleveland, Ohio, November 17, 1890. On the 7 th April last 1 received from your hands my appointment as the Special .4gent created in Act of Congress, approved the 5th April, 1890 : this Act orders and . provides for a thorough examination into the present status of the fur-seal industry of our (iovcrnment as embodied on the seal islands of Alaska, so as to make known its relative condition now as compared with its prior form and well-being in 1872, and for I other kindred lines of inquiry. I may as well frankly confess at the outset that I was wholly unaware of the extra- I ordinary state of affairs which stared me in the face at the moment of my first landing, I last May, on the seal islands of Alaska. I embarked upon this mission with only a faint I apprehension of viewing anything more than a decided diminution of the Pribyloff I rookeries, caused by pelogic sealing during the last five or six years. But from the moment of my landing at St. Paul's Island on the 2 1 st May last until Ithe close of the breeding season those famous "rookeries" and "hauling grounds" of I the fur-seal thereon, and of St. George's Island, t,oo, began to declare and have declared jto my astonished senses the fact, that their utter ruin and extermination is only a ]i|iiestion of a few short years from date unless prompt and thorough measures of relief jand protection are at once ordered on sea and on land by the Treasury Department, and |cnf(irccd by it. Quickly realizing, after my arrival upon these islands, that a remarkable change Iter the worse had taken place since my finished work of 1874 was given to the public in Itliat same year and the year also of my last survey of these rookeries, I toolv the field at m i \' 'I ^ :!: , "i^,f<}^'wi!^m> BORB 34 w ll; *nee, carrying hourly and daily with me a series of note hooks opened under followin<T heads:— ° 1. The "rookeries," their area, position, and condition, in 1872, 1874-90. 2. Tiie "hauling grounds," their appearance in 1872, 1874-00. 3. The method of " driving " and taking fur-seals in 1872, 1 874-90. 4. The selection of skins, grade, and supply, in 1872, 1874-90. 5. Character, condition, and number of natives in 1872, 1874-90. 6. Conduct of native labour and pay in 1872, 1874-90. To these heads I add the following sections in their order as mentioned, thus constituting the full body of my Keport, which is preceded by this letter of trans. missal : — 7. The protection and preservation of these fur-bearing interests of our Governmciil on the Pribyloff Islands, the immediate action necessary, viewed in the full light of existing danger. 8. Appendix, in which the author's daily '/ield notes appear, verbatim et literatim, in order of day and date. 9. Revised general Maps of St. Paul and St. George, showing the area and position of the hauling grounds of the fur-seal thereon in 1872-74, and again in 1890. 10. A series ot special Maps showing the exact topography, area, and position of the breeding rookeric " St. Paul and St George islands in 1872-74, and again in 1890, together witii an illustru.cion of each rookery drawii from life by the author. Although I y/aa unable to ■'etect any sign of existing danger or injury to tlicsc interests of our Government on these Islands of Pribyloff in 1872-74, yet the need of cantion on the part of the Agents of the Government and their close annual scrutiny i^m pointed out and urged in my publisl'.ed work of 1874* in the following language (pp. 75-77):— " Until my arrival on the seal islands, April 1872, no steps had been taken towards ascertaining the extent or the importance of these interests of the Government by eitiicr the Treasury Agent in charge or the agent of the Company leasing the islands. This was a matter of no especial concern to the latter, but was of the first importance to ilie Government. It had, however, failed to obtain definite knowledge upon the subject on account of the inaccurate mode ot ascertaining the number of seals which had been adopted by its agent, tfho relied upon an assumption of the area of the brcedii:? ' rookeries,' but who ne^er took the trouble to ascertain the araa and position of thcst great seal grounds intrusted to his care. " After a careful study of the subject during two whole seasons, and a thorougli review of it during this season of 18'74, in company with my associate. Lieutenant! Maynard, I nopose to show plainly and in sequence the steps which have led me to a I solution of ihi. question as to the number of fur-sc Is on the Pribyloff Islands, togetlici with the determination of means by which the Agent of the Government will be able In correctly report upon the condition of the seal-life from year to year. "At the close of my investigation for the season of 1872 the fact became evident] that the breeding seals obeyed implicitly a fine instinctive luv of distribution, so thai the breeding ground occupied by them was always coveied by seals in an exact ratio, greater or less to the area to be held ; that they al\-. ays covered the ground ovenlj, I never crowding in at one place and scattering out al another ; that the ueals lay Justus I thickly together where the rookery was a small one of only a few thousand as at ' ^'all Speel,' near the village, as they did where a million of tbcm came together, as at Nor'lij east Point. " This fact being determined, it is at once plain that, just as the breeding grounds nil the fur-seal on these islands expand or contract in area from their present dimensions, mi | the seals will have increased or diminished. "Impressed, therefore, with the necessity and the importance of obtaining the c:>actj area and position of these breeding grounds, I surveyed them in 1872-73 for that i)uriii)5<;,l and resurveyed thom this season of 1874. The result has been carefully drawn and plottfJj out, as presented in the accompanying Maps. "'I'he time for taking these boundaries of the rookeries is during the week of tlieirj greatest eA,-an8ion, or when they are as full as tbf y are to be for tlie season, and liefurel the regular system of compact even organization breaks up, the seals then »cp ^ringoutl in pods or clusters, straying far back, tiie ?P!re number covering then twice ns niucw ground in places as they did before, when marshalled on the rookery ground proper ; tlicl breeding seals remain on the rooLery perfectly quiet, and en masse, for a week or teal • A lleport upon llie Condition of Affairs in llie Territory of Alaska, by Henry W. Elliott, Special Apit Treasury Urpnrlnienf. Government Printing Office, 1875. (Pp 277-80 "> ^^f^-A n et literatim, in 8fi Jays (luring the period of greatest expansion, whicli is between tlie 10th and 20th July, (riving ample time for the agent to correctly note the exact boundaries of the area covered by them. This step on the part of the Government officer puts him in possession every year of exact data upon which to base a Report as to the condition of the seal-life as comparetf wifi the yoar or years previous. In this way my record of the precise area and position of the fur-seal breeding grounds on St. Paul's Island in the season of 1872, and that of St. George in the season of 1873, correctly serves as a definite basis for all time to come upon which to f juud authoritative Reports from year to year js to any change, increase, or diminution of the seal life. It is, therefore, very important that the Government shoj'd have an Agent in charge of these novel and valuable interests, who is capable, by virtue of education and energy, to correctly observe and report the area and position of the rookeries year by year." Therefore, in the light of the foregoing you will observe that, although I was unable to detect myself any danger to or diminution of the seal life on the Pribyloff Islands after three seasons of close study in the field, ending with the season of 1874, yet I was deeply impressed with the need of an intelligent careful senrcl- every year for the signs of or real existence of such danger, that I urged the Department to select men who were fit to make such a search, and who could be tiiisted to do it honestly and thoroughly. I made this request on the ICth November, 1*^74, as I gave ia my detailed Report above cited to the Secretary of the Treasury, who ordered it to be published at once, and caused it to be widely circulated by the Department. In 1872-74, 1 observed that all the young male seals needed for the annual quota of 15,000, or 90,000 as it was ordered in the latter year, were easily obtained every season, Isetweeu the 1st June and the 20th July following, from the "hauling ground:;" of : Tolstoi, Sukannon, and Zoltoi Sands, from these hauling grounds adjacent to the I rookeries or breeding grounds of Tolstoi, Sukannon, Reef, and Garbotch, all of these its to supply being not more than 1^ miles distant from the St. Paul village killing j grouiids, the Zoltoi drive being les^: than 600 feet away. At North-east Point on this isjjand Webster got all the seals desired towards filling I the above-cited quota of 90,000 from that sand-reach between the foot of Cross Hill and ! Big Lake sand drives on the north-shore be \oh. Then, that immense spread of hauling grounds covered by swarms of young male Is, at Zapodnie, at South-west Point, at English Bay beyond Middle Hill west, at lavi la, and over all that 8 long miles of beach and upland hauling 'grounds between I Sukani.on Bay and AVebster's House at Novostoshnoji — all of this extensive sealing area was not visited by sealing gangs, or spoken of by them as necessary to be driven I lorn. Therefore, when attentively studying in 1872-74 the subject of what was the I effect of killing annually 100,000 young male seals on these islands (90,000 on St. Paul snd 10,000 on St. George), in view of the foregoing statement of fact, I was unable to see how any harm was being done to the regular sup])ly of fresh blood for the breeding Irookorios. since those large reservoirs of surplus male life, above named, held at least IJiist half of the young male seal-life tlien belonging to the islands: these large sources lot' supply were never I'riven from — never even visited by the sealers, and out of their I overwhelming abundance, I thought that surely enough fresh male seal-life did annually Imature for ser\ ice on the breeding rookeries. Therefore, wlicn summing up in my published work of 1872-74, I was positive lin declaring that although I was firndy convinced that no increase to the then existing Immber of seals on these islands would follow any etfort t' * we might make (giving my Ireasons in detail for so belio^ ipg), yet T was as firmly satisi.cd that as matters were then Iconductcil, nothing was being done wb.cli would injure tii > regular annual supply of male llife necessary for the full demand of the rookeries, i then declared " that provided Imattersare conducted on the seal island in the future as they are to-day, 100,000 male |»'als under the age of 5 years and over 1 may be safely taiicn every year from jtlicPribylofl' Islands without the slightest injury to the regular birth rates, or natural increase thereon, providi-d also that the fur-seals are not visited by any plague, or pests, V any abnormal cans for their destruction, which might be beyond the control of IM." ('< Monograph of the Seal Islands of Alaska," p. 62.) I repeatedly called attention to this fact in my published Report, that all of the illablc seals required were easily taken in thirty working days, between the 14th June id the 20th July in every year, from those points above specified, and that those iscrvoirs of surplus male life at South-west Point, Zapodnie, English Bay, Polavina, 'onkie Mees, &c., were full and overtlowing, that more than enough was untouched which ffieed to meet the demands of nature on the breeding grounds. But to make certain [295] I if i- ''iy''\i 56 ()iji<^ niy tfafiory WM * good on6, and would ba coiifinned by time, for I qualified my ■totement at that time as a theory only, I madu a careful and elaborate triangulation of tha area and poaition of tbo breeding grounds in 1873-73 on St. Paul and St. Gooigo Islands, aided and elaborated by my associate in 1874, Lieutenant Washburn Maynaid United States' navy ; this I did In order that any inerca.se or diminution following our work could be authoritatively stated — tliat a foundation of fact and not assumption ^ould exist for such a comparison of the past order with that of the present or the future. Sixteen years have elapsed since that work was finished ; its accuracy as to the stated inents of Hot then published was at that time unquestioned on those islands, and it jg totday freely acknowledged there } but, what has boon the logic of events? Wliy is it that we find now only a soant tenth of the numbers of young male seals which I saw there in 1872 ? When did this work of decrease and destruction, so marked on the breeding grounds there, begin, and how ? This answer follows : — •« I. From overdriving without heeding its warning first begun in 1879, dropped then mitil 1888, then suddenly renewed again with increased energy from year to year, until the end is abruptly reached, this season of 1800. « 0. From the shooting of fur-seals (chiefly females) in the open waters of the Nottli Paciflo Qoean and Behring's Sea begun as a businesn in 1886, and continued to date." Thus the seal-life candle has been literally " burning at both ends " during the last five years. That day in 1879 when it became necessary to send a sealing gang from St, Paul village over to Zapodnie to regularly drive from that hitherto untouched reserve was the day that danger first appeared in tangible form since 1870— since 1867, for that tnattor. The fact then that that abundant source of supply, which had served so well and steadily sinoo 1870-81, should fail to yield its accustomed return to the drivers— hat ^ot ought to have aroused some comment — ought then to havo been recorded by the officer in charge in behalf of the Government at the close of the season's work in 1882, Imt it did not; possibly, the gravity of the change was not than fully appreciated by the sealers theniselves, either through ignorance or inattention. But, when in 1882 it became absolutely necessary to draw from that time on until I the end of the present season, heavily and repeatedly, upon these hitherto imtouched sources of supply for the rookeries, in order to get the custom-; ry annual quota — at that time that fact, that glaring change from the prosperous and b althy precedent and record of 18T0-81, should have been — it was ample warning of dan jer ahead; it seems, however, Iq have been entirely ignored — to have fallen upon inattc^ tive or incapable minds; fo; not until the Report for 1889 from the Agent of the Government in charge, who went up in the spring of that year f<.,v his first season of service and experienc" ---not until his Report came down to the Tre^aury Department has there been the slightest intimation in the annual dedwations of the officers of the Government of the least diminution or deoreaae of seal-life on these islands Kince u\y work of 1874 was finished and given to ( the world. On the contrwy. strange at* it ma;; seem, all the Treasury Agents since 1870 have, I whenever they have spoken at all, eaoh vied with the other in their laudation of the I •♦splendid oondUion of the rookeries," "fully up to their best standard," &c,, and one I Eeport in 1886 and 1887 declares a vast increase over the large figures which I pubiialiedl in l&72-74i. which is again reiterated by the same officer in 1888. But how c««ld these gentkiraen reconcile their statements with that remarkable! evidenee of the deorwac in SMpply of young males from the records made and before j them— starinjsf them in the face— of 1872-71 ? When they saw and daily recorded 1 ffot th»t setting gangs wore being daily sent out from the village, miles and miles away I liO hitherto wndistnrhed fields, for killahlo seals — the regular customary hauling groundij then at the point of exhiiustion, from which an abundant supply had been easily secured I during the Isaf^ thirty yearly and grass growing all over the hauling grounds of 1811,1 hoWi ind«edi did th%t faot escape their attention? It did, however j it was u(terlj| ignor«d, I o»n atto QQ\y. in ihe light of the record of the work of sixteen oonaeoutive yeuio sealing, very clearly one or tvfo points which were wholly invisible to ny sight in 1878.M.| I c«n nofr 6»$ wIm^ thi^t «9^ct of driving overland is upon the physical well-being of a| nwmftt fur-«««). ftpd> upon th»t «|ght, fe«l wi^anted in taking the faUowing ground. Tha lea^t V^Qftetim Yfi'l d««lav« to an observer that, while a fur-4ea) moves easier «| l^nda «nd fr««Hr th^n WS W <^1 ^^^^V W^K y^^> At the same tinte, it is f^n unusual i l^hoiliom effwt. «v«n whw U U volwnt^ryj therefore, when thousands of young emU w& •nddonlj; vorm^ W \\k^ utmost power of land locomotion, ov«r rough, sk rocks, rolling clinker stoncs, deep loose sand, mossy tassocks, and other eqtiiilly Severe impedimenta, they in their fright exert themselves most violently, crowd in confaSftd sweltering heaps one upOn the other, so that many are often " smothered " to death ; dnd. Id this manner of most extraordinary effort, to be urged along over stretcbfes Of tmbtoken miles, they are obliged to use muscles and nerves that nature nfever intended them it use, and which are not fitted for the action. This prolonged, sudden, and unusual effort, unnatural and violent 3train, must leave s lastinp: mark upon the physical condition of every seal thus driven, and then suffered to escape from the clubbed pods on the killing grounds ; they are alternately heated to the point of suffocation, gasping, panting, allowed to cool down at intervals, then abrnptly started up on the road for a fresh renewal of this heating as they lunge, shamblfe, and creep along. When they arrive on the killing grounds, after four Or five hours of this distressing effort on their part, they are then suddenly cooled off for the last tirtie prior lothe final ordeal of clubbing; then when driven up into the last surround or "pod," if ilie seals are spared from cause of being unfit to take, too big or too little, bitten, kt., \ky are permitted to go off from the killing ground back to tlic sea, Outwardly unhnrt, most of them ; but I am now satisfied that they sustain in a vast majority of cases internal injuries of greater Or less degree, that remain „o work physical disability or death thereafter to nearly csery seal thus released, and certain destruction of its virility and courage necessary for a station on the rookery even if it cari possibly run the :niintlet of driving throughout every scaling season for five or six consecutive yeafi ; ilriven over and over again as it is during each one of these sealing seasons. Therefore, it now appears plain to n.c that those young male fur-seals which may liappen to survive this terrible strain of seven years of driving overland are rendered by tliis act of driving wholly v'^'-thless for breeding purposes — they never go to the breeding grounds and take up stations there, being utterly demoralized in Spirit and in body. With this knowledge, then, the full effect of " driving " becomes apparent, and that result of slowly but surr.ly robbing the rookeries of a full and sustained supply of fresh young male blood, demanded by Nature imperatively, for their support up to the standard of full expan'iion (such as I recorded in 1872-74), — that result began, it now seems clear, to set in from the beginning, twenty years ago, under the present system. Had, however, a check been as slowly antl steadily applied to that " driving " as it progressed in 1879-82 upon those great reserves of Zapodnie, South-west Point, and Polavina, then the present condition of exhaustion, complete exhaustion of the surplus supply of young male seals, would not be observed — it would not have happened. But, however, no attention was given whatever to tlie l'ii< i that in 1882 the reserves roc suddenly, very suddenly, drawn upon, steadily and heavily for the first time, in order that a prompt filling of the usual annual quotn should be made before or by the usual time of closing the seahng season for the year 20th .Inly ; and until the Report for 1889, above cited, of the Treasury Agent in cha,, nnc into the Treasury Depart- ment, not a suggestion ever had been made in officiai writing, from 1872-74 to that liour, of the sl-ghtest prospect even of the amazing diminution of cal-life which is n&H so painfully apparent. Naturally enough, being so long away from the field, on readii _; Mr. Chatli J. GotT's Report for the season's work of 1889, 1 at once jumped to the conclusion that the pelagic sealing, the poaching of 1880-88, was the sole cause for that shrinkage which he declared manifest on ^hosc rookeries and hauling grounds of the Pribyloff Islands — such 8 great shrinkage as to warrant him in the declaration which he makes in thnt Report, that he believes that not over G0,000 young male seals can be secured here in i s90, and if more can be, that they should not be taken. Still, even then, charging it in this manner all to the poachers was not quite satifi* factory to my mind. I could figure out from the known number of skins which th hunters had placed on the market a statement of the loss and damage to the ro. os -to the females and young, horn and unborn, for that is the class fVom whii,- the poacher secures 85 per cent, of his catch ; and I was prepared to find by these fignr^D that the breeding grounds had lost heavily, but that did not eV6n then satisfy me as to his statement, which came so suddenly in 1880, that little more than half of the established annual quota of 100,000 hollenschickie suitable for killing could or would b6 secured here in 1890; for, great as my estimated shrinkage on the breeding grotand« MS, due to the work of the poachers, yet that would not, could not, explain to my mind the nine-fold greater shrinkage of that supply from the hauling grounds which must exist, or elf e 60,000 young males might be easily taken, Judging from my notes of such «rork in 1872. Therefore, I lauded hero much confused m thought as to what I should [cbserve. . • ■ . .■;:.',.•,; [2961 ^ 1 a i 'i ► ' i ( - { r. 'if I' i -> ' Ml '»4 \i I X 68 I began at once, and finished by the 9th June, an entire new topographical survey and triangulation of tho landed area of the seven rookeries of the St. Paul's Islam' and those of the St. George Island on the i9iu and 20th July, so as to have tlicsj charts ready for instant use when the ti.Tie came in which to observe the full form and number of the breeding seals as they licid upon this ground, viz., 10th to 20th July inclusive; thereafter until the closing of the season on St. Paul, 19th July, and on St. George up to 4th August, 1 have daily recorded the full details of the hauling, the driving, and the killing of seals there, the condition of the breeding animals, their arrival and behaviour, &c. A thousand varied incidents have been faithfully observed, ns my field notes will testify, and which ajjpcar in all their detail in the following Appendix to this Report. The present condition of these fur-seal preservers is nothing new to the histor} of their case while in the hands of the Rusisians. Twice before, in the comparatively short period of a century since they were first opened to the cupidity of man, have they been threatened with the same ruin that threatened them to-day; in 180G and 1807 all killing was stopped to save them, hut icsumed again in 1 808 — loo soon ; for, after seventeen year,^ of continual adoption of half-way measures, the full and necessary term of rest was given to them in 1834; the story of this "Zapooska" of the Russians in 1834, and the causes which led them to the threatened extermination of those fur- seal interests on the Pribyloff Islands, is one that is now timely in its repetition, and should be heeded. When these islands were first discovered, in 1736-87, an indiscriminate rush was made to them by the representatives of every Russian trading organization then in Alaska — by every one then able to fit out a vessel and hire a number of men. Tl:c>e eager, greedy parties located on and near all of the large rookeries and hauling groumis, and killed as many as they could handle ; in those days all the skins were air-dried and not salted, and that made the work of sealing then far slower and much more diflicult Umn it is now, since the present system of salting skins practically offers no delay whatever to the work of killing and skinning. In my mind, there is no doubt but that this inability to cure rapidly the skins for shipment in 1780-1805, as fast as they conld then be idllod and skinned — not one-tenth as fast as they can bt to-day, — that this delay alone saved the Pribyloff rookeries from utter extermination in those early days. Certainly it was and must have been the cause, for at least thirteen different trading organizations had their vessels and their men around, and on thete two islands of St. Paul and St. George engaged to their utmost ability throughout full seventeen years in unbroken snoccssion in taking fur seal-skins. Had these early Russian fur hunters then possessed the knowledge and means of curing skins in salt that we now have, together with those appliances in use to-day en the seal islands of Alaska, I am well satisfied in my own mind that they would liavc killed every fur-seal that remained to show itself in less than three years after they began operations — that they would have swept every animal from these grour.ds, long, long before the old Russian America Company assumed autocratic control of these interests in 1799, and all Alaska as well. But fortunately for us, and the world as well, they did not knov" anything about curing skins in snlt — they had hut one method, and that was to strelcli out the green skins and .air-dry them upon frames in long loiv-drying houses, or in bright weatlicr during August, September, and October to peg them out u))on the ground. Thus, this tedious process in a climate as damp, foggy, and stormy as is that peculiar to the seal islands of Alaska made these Slavonian sealers spend ten times as j much time in the act of curing tin ir fur-seal pelts as it took them to drive and kill; then, too, in those early days they were remote from a market, had no prompt, economical means of transportation to London, and depended wholly upon the idiosyn- crasies of the Chinese trade viil Kiachta ; but even with this extraordinary hindrance, it I seems that they took in that laborious and risky manner at least 100,000 fur seal-skins j ©very year.* They took so many that by 1803 several hundred thousand of these air-dried pelts I had accumulated over the ability of the old Russian Company to dispose of thcvii ui time to prevent their decay — moulding and damp, then abruptly decaying — rott'ng in huge piles as they were stacked up in the tfatfehouses t Kodiak, so "it became necessary to | * "In the firrt years oil St. Paiil'i Jalond from 60,000 to (10,000 were taken annually, and on St. Oeorge I from 40,000 to 50,000 every year. Such horrible killing was neither necessary nor demanded. The skins sere I frequently taken without any list or count. In 1803, 800,000 seal-skins had accumulated, and it was impossible to I make advantageous lale of ao many (kins, for in this great number so many were spoiled that it beoaire nfcesu^l to cut or throw into the sea 1Qi),W0 pelts !"— (Uishop Vciiiamiuov, "Zapieskie," &c., 1848, vol., chap, xii.) 50 cut or throw into the sea 700,000 pelts " during that year. Naturally this loss of labour, time, and money cooled the ardour of the sealing gangs which were working the Pribyloff Islands — they worked slower when they did work, and most likely never worked at all in we*; weather ; obliged to bow to the caprices of the climate or lose their labour, they »vere thus obliged to spare the seals, and this enforced delay in 1788-1806 has saved the Pribyloff rookeries from that swift destruction which the keen, quick-witted American and EngHsh sealers visited i'l 1800-26 upon the great breeding grounds of the fur-seal in the Antarctic ; they, our countrymen, then used the kench and salt ; tliey never were bothered with the question of how to dispose of their skins after killing and skinning so as to save them, and they brought their methods of 180G-2G— the same methods of to-day — up to these seal islands of Alaska for the first time in 18G8.* No one car. state, with more than mere estimation on his part, the full number of fur-seals slaughtered by the Russians on the Pribyloff Islands from 1780 to 1817; no lists, no checks whatever on it appear to have been made, and the record certainly never was made, sir. ^ Bishop Vcniaminov, who, from 1825 up to 1838 was at the head of all matters connected with the Church in this Oonalashka district, where the seal islands belonged, and who had tlic respect and confidence of the old Russian- American Company, made a zealoup searcli for such a record in 1834-35 among the archives of the Company at Sitka, wherk, ne iiad full access ; but the result of his painstaking search he sums up in the following terse statement: " Of the number of skins taken up to 1817 I have no knowledge to rely upon ; but from that time up to the present writing I have true and reliable accounts," wliich he puts into the Apppendix of his published work.f The Bishop (who is the only Russian who has given us the faintest idea of how matters were conducted in his time upon these islands) seems to have witnessed them in a steady condition of decline as to yield, for in the time of his writing and up to its closing in 1837 the record was one of steady diminution until 1834 ; the killing seems tohiive been permitted with all sorts of half measures since 1817, adopted one after the other, to no good result whatever ; finally, however, the supply abruptly fell from an expected 20,000 to 12,000 only from both islands in 1834— "all that could be got with all possible exertion." Then the Russians awoke to tlic fact that if they wished to preserve these fur- bearin ;• interests of the Priltyloff Islands from ruin, that they must stop killing, wholly stop for a number of years — stop until the renewal of the exhausted rookeries was manifest, and easily recognized ; tliis Zapooska of 1835, which they then ordered, is the date of tiie renewed lease of life wliich these rookeries took, and which by 1857 had restored them to the splendid condition in which they were when they passed into the hands of the United States ; and whicli now, after twenty-two years of killing since 1868 and under the recent Regulations of 1870, together with the pelagic sealing since 1886, we find again threatened with speedy extinction unless full measures are at once adopted for their preservation and restoration on land, and in the sea — -half measures will not do -they failed in the Russian period signally, and they will as signally fail with us if we yield in the slightest degree to any argument for their adoption. It is interesting, therefore, to study the figures which Veniaminov gives us of the jield from these islands during tiiat period extending down from 1817 to 1837 — study it in connection with his statement of what those attempts were, and which were being made, futile efforts by the old Company to build up the business, and yet continue sealing; until, finally, after seventeen years of continual diminution and repeated introduction of half-way methods of restoration, the end came abruptly, and what ought to have been done at first was finally Ibrced in 1834) — the absolute test of the rookeries in 1835 came, and practically continued until 1846-50 ; then a gradual rise above 10,000 " iiolluschickie " or young male fur-seals per annum began to be safely taken; and, by 1854, the exhausted and nearly ruined rookeries of St. Paul and St. George were able to yield 35,000 prime fur-seal pelts without the slightest injury to them, and by 1867-60 they were so numerous that the Russians ceased to regard them as objects of care, and thereafter governed their annual catch by the demand outside alone — taking as the market called for them anywhere from 40,000 to 80,000 annually. As matters stand to-day on the seal islands the situation is very much the same aa it was in 1834. Then it was expected that 20,000 seals would be taken, but only 12,000 were secured " with all possible exertion." This year it was expected that 60,000 fine * They began at once tint system of disciplined exhaiiilive slaughter which has proved to effective in their hinds throughout the Antarctic — took nearly 300,000 seal-skins on these islands in the short space of four months, ceased then only for want ot salt ; but, happily, the Government interrened before they could resume their work of iwift destruction. 1 << Zapieskie ob Oonalai.hkeuikaho Otdayla :" St. Petersburgh, 1842 ; 9 vols, 80. A full trkOkUtion of that cliapter which treat! of tliii qufttion will follnw this introduction. M I i-l ^t^ 60 skins would bo taken, but only 21,000 h4Ve been secured with all possible exertion, nearly half of this catch being small, or 6i-Gj lb. skins— ralcing and scrc.j-,ing the rookery margins without a day's intermission from the opening to the closing of the season ; of this work of 1890 I give you in this Eeport the fullest detail of its progression, day to day, tlio merciful ending of it, ordered so liappily by you. It will be promptly observed from a study of this record of the Russians which has been so plainly and so honestly given to ua by Veniaminov and Shaiesnickov, that the Russians, during their control, were faced at two periods with the prospect of a speedy extermination of these fur-seal rookeries of Alaska ; in 180G and in 1807 they stopped all killing on these Islands of St. Paul and St. George, but began to kill again in 1810— too soon. Veniaminov's record and account shows that from 1817, in spite of every. thing that they could do, save stopping short of all killing, "only made matters worse." Finally, in 1834, with the second and positive threat of swift extermination again facing them, the Russians reluctantly surrendered, and ordered a rest which lasted seven years, ere any beginning was fairly made to kill more than a few thousand young male seals annuallj . Tn the first year only 100 of such animals were taken, the number being very slo\vij raised year after year until 1847-50. A careful review of my investigation, therefore, warrants me in respectfully urging— 1. That no driving and killing of fur-scals for tax and shipment on the seal islands of Alasiva be permitted by the Government for a period of at least seven years froir date ; and 2. That the co-operation of Great Britain and Russia be secured in perfecting our international close time, by which all killing of fur-seals in the open waters of Beiiring's Sea will be prohibited during the breeding season of these animals, and in order tiiat the Representatives of Great Britain and Russia may see the truth of my statement as to what threatens to exterminate these animals if pelagic sealm" as well as terrestrial sealing is not at once stopped ; that a Commission of British, Russian, and American experts be invited to visit the sefil islands next summer and report fairly upon the subject. In concluding this introduc '.Ion to my work of the past season, and its result, I desire to say that I have been exceedingly careful in gathering my data upon which I base all statement of fact and opinion, and to secure these data I have literally lived out upon the field itself, where those facts alone can be gathered honestly, or else they had better not be gathered at all. I now submit, most respectfully, my detailed Report covering the above-mentioned heads, together with those field-sketches and maps which I deem necessary to give a more distinct, clear, and full idea of my meaning and understanding of tlie subjects treated. Trusting that it will meet with your approval, I am, &c, IIeNrY tr. Elliott. To the above may be added, furnished by Professor Elliott, the following Table showing numbers of fur-seals on the breeding grounds of the Pribyloff Islands, Alaska, during 1872-74, and again in 1890 : — Seals, Softlg, . ' Island Rookcrica. Male, Female, and Young, Male, reuiale, and Young, 1872-74. 1890. , ; . St. Poul Kcef . . 301,000 14O,A0O , -M • * • • Gurbotch . . 183,000 84,000 ■ ,i •• Lngoon 37,000 9,000 M > • . • . Tolstoi , . . , 226,000 62,400 '. . '■ ' tf ■ tf. Znpndnio 441,000 131,305 M •• •• Ketavic . , 166,000 28,000 ■♦»'^ ' :• ' •♦, •• Lukaniiou . . 170,000 72.500 ' f . • h •»; • •• Polaviiii* 300,000 142,000 1 • 0- -tv North-Enst Point 1,200,000 217,873 ■ .:. )« • < Nahspeel 8,000 Diittppeared St. Qeoigu Zapadnic 18,000 12,500 '- '• » • • • • Starry Arleel , , 80,420 16,000 VI "v, «r North ,. 77,000 38,600 ,. ...■ ^. ..;.; : ' ,1 . Little Eaitem . . 18,000 4,800 J V.I.;-. .i ! . .-. Great Eastern . , • < 25,000 9,000 8,198,400 989,893 jlc oxcftioti, scraping tho osing of the detail of its u. ns which has ikov, that the t of a speedy ey stopped all lin in 1810— )ite of every. nadc matters ination again h lasted seven d young male , the number 1 respectfully ho seal islands ren years from perfecting our •9 of Bchring's order that the tatemcnt as to . as terrestrial and American Fairly upon the ind its result, I |a upon which I literally lived y, or else they )ove-mentioned issary to give a of the subjects \V. Elliott. oUowlng Table slands, Alaska, Femnle, 'oung, 890. tO,AOO 4,000 9,000 62,400 311,305 2B,000 72,500 42,000 17,875 ppeBred 12,500 16,000 88,600 4,800 9,000 09,893 The grand total of 3,193,4£30 breeding seals and tlieir young for 1872-74 rcproHenls a division of its sexes and ages of about 1,000,000 brooding fcmnlcs or "cows," 1,450,000 newly-born seals or "pups," and some 143,000 to 100,000 able-bodied virile males or "bulls" over years of ago (tho proportion of farrow or "barren " cows too eroall for notice then). The grand total of 959,393 breeding seals, male and female, for 1890 is divided into difTorevt proportions as to sex and age, owing to deadly causes at work on hii'.d and sea since ^874. The proportion of the above total for 1890 is 3r)0,000 bearing fonmlos, and some 250,000 not bearing, or not served last year and this; 350,0UU pips, and between 8,000 and 9,000 old males, many of them absolutely impotent at the beginning of the season of 1890, most of them becoming wholly so as the sea'^^on advanced. In 1872-74 Elliott and Maynard estimated the number of surplus young males or "klllable" seals at 1,600,000; this year of 1890 Elliot makes a rigid calculation which shows a scant 100,000 males left above 1 year old. ' 'a ill 'Tf :i'A' P I i" t5> ^ S 2- SEIZ si f Pre [C.-604 RUSSIA. No. 1 (I89a> OORRESPONDENOB RESFEOnNO THB SEIZURE OF THE BRmSH SCHOONER "ARAUNAH," on I COPPER ISLAND, BY THB RUSSIAN AUTHORITIES. Presented to the House of Commons by Command of Her Majesty, in pursuance of f their Address dated May 13, 1890. I LONDON: PRINTED FOR HER MAJESTY'S STATIONERY OFFICE BY HARRISON AND SONS, ST. MARTIN'S LANB. ramrami in a*DiWAaT to hib majutt. [C- And to be pnrrluud, eithar directly or through «nj Bookialler, fron BYRE ANB SPOTTI8WOODK, Bait Habdiko Stbiit, Flut Stbbit, B.C., axb AS, Abinsdok Stbiit. WnTMiNnu, 8.W.] ob ADAM AHD CHARLES BLACK, A, Nobtb Bbibsi, BDiNBDavat oB HODGES, FIflOIS, * Co.. 104, Obahok BrBBBT Drauw. -6041.] Price 4^d. i I .f . « V,' f.i. I'f. V 1 «• , > ' r '.( ri :> -t r^ f, ' i<M-N r.-Tf r /' ^T 't(» TABLE OF CONTENTS. No. Name. Date. Subject. Papo 1 Mr. Trench Sept. 17, 1888 Captain and crew of " Araiinali " arrived in Japnii, and left for Vancouver 1 9 Mr. Siewerd .. .. Oct. 29, Relating to seizure of "Araunah." What are held to be boundaries of Russian possessions in Behring's Sea ? 1 3 Sir R. Morier . . . • Nov. H, Case ii before Embassy, Awaits fuller statement from owners , . . . . . 1 4 Governor-Qt'nernl of Canada . (). Report by Canadian Privy Council, with documents and facts connected with the case •) fi To Mr. Siewerd . , 28, Replies to No. 2 6 Sir R. Morier .30, Summary of case, with documents. Proposed course. Asks instructions .. .. ,. 6 7 To Sir R. Morier . . Dec. 11, Acknowledges above. Instructions for guidance , . 13 8 Sir R. Morier 12, Copy of letter to owners. Doubts as to cose W 9 Governor-General of Canada . Nov. 27, Report by Privy Council, and further papers 15 10 Sir R, Morier Dec. 30, Copy of note to M. de Giers in accordance with instructions in No. 7 .. .. IS 11 l> '.1 ' ■ • • Aug. 26, 1880 Reply of Russian Government to above . . 11 12 To Sir R. Morier . . Oef. 3, Asks for further informatMa on certain points in • the above reply . . . . 20 13 14 Sir U. Morier Feb. 14,. 1890 19," Has there been any reply to above ? , , Answers above. None, as yet.. 21 21 15 fi »» ' • • • Mar. 19, Forwards reply of Russian Government to questions as suggested in No. \i 2, 16 To Mr. Gosling .. May 9, Comments on above. Do not propose to address further representations to Russia 2t ^.trr-^TCriT icomiiig lonour .' I ! - .7 ■ .( *^ fr .T'r'r.'! '^ .T-.^r-y p-.j^,,,;' ^.,'7 .'-i'., .r , (.'r.,i . .1-: i,-:a '\,\iA ■'• vn-y-^i^O .t.;I ..« ) })' Lord, wit: |izurc of [31 •I. ' 'f HLTURN to til Addr«>i uf the Honourable the Houie of Oonirooni, dtttd May 13, ISnO; ',' ' . ' for- ■'■'■ '■ " Copy of Oorrespondence that haa taken place with reference to the Seizure of the Victorian Schooner ' Araunah ' in the Bohring's Sea." 't (' Page rrived in Japnn, 1." What are 1 |)OS6CssionB ill •• " I fuller slatcmenl , • • ' • with dorumcnta • • •• j Proposed course. opose 6 13 U 15 s for guidance [as to case icr papers .-j accordance willi i -1 "1 bove . . : ■ I " ' certain points in •• ^1 ..1 21 1 nient to questions i to address No. 1. Mr. Trench to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received October 25.) My Lord, Tokio, September 17, 1888. I HAVE the honour to report to your Lordship that the captain and crow of the scliooncr " Araunah," of Victoria, British Cohirabia, captured by the Eussians, oH Coiiper Island, at the comniencomont of July last, and taken to Vladivostock, arrived at Xagnsaki on the 25th ultimo, and wore handed over by the llussian Consul at that poi't to Mr. Consul Ensile, who sent them on to llcr Majesty's officiating Consul at Kanaj^awa. Captain Siewerd and his crew left Yokohama tor Vancouver on the 1st instant by the Canadian I'aciflc steam-ship " Batavia." It is unnecessary for mo to trouble your Lordship with a detailed statement of the j circumstances connected with the seizure of the " Araunah," as full particulars have already been j^iven in a letter addressed by Captain Siewerd to Hor Majesty's Chargti il'Affaires at St. Petorsburgh, to whom the complaint was addressed. I have, &c. (Signed) P. LE I'OER TRENCH. No. 2. Mr. Siewerd to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received November 19.) I Sir, Victoria, British Columbia, October 29, 1888. WUEN seized on the 1st July, 1888, in the British sealing-schooner '' Aiaiuuih," lof tills port, 8 miles off south oxtremc of Copper Island, by the Russian merchantman I" Alexander II," and when I protested against this seizure, claiming to be beyond the ]i,Mm-sliot limit, the Russian officer, M. Grebnitzky, replied : " I would seize you liOO miles further south if found with seal-hunting outfit abroad." As the American side of Behring's Sea is closed to us, and I have been of opinion ; when south of the islands (Copper and Behring's) I was in the open waters of the |Nortli Pacific Ocean, the above reply has prompted mo to ask of you the kiiulness to give me the boundary-lines of the Russian possession adjacent to the North Pacific Ocean, Copper and Behring's Islands included, as construed by your Department. As your compliance with my request may avoid serious loss of property the looming season, as I contemplate to hunt again in those waters, I pray that your lonour will favour me with an immediate reply, I am, &c. (Signed) H. F. SIEWERD, Late Master of Schooner " Araunah." m m I; No. 3. Sir R, Morier to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received November 1 9.) Iy Lord, St. Peteraburgh, November 14, 1888. WITH reference to your Lordship's despatch of the 7th instant, respecting the lizure of the " Araunah,'^* I have the honour to state that the case is in the hands of . --^-i ■■ '-* Inclosing copj of No. 1. • ■ .. • , ' [316] B 2 mmmmm Her Majesty's Embassy, a sMorn nflldavit, dated tlic 27tli August, toj^ctlicr witli a protest by the captain and a declaration by the Superintendent of tlio Commodoii' Islands, who seized the ship, having l)oen forwarded to Mr. Voring, from Naf^iisaki, in a letter from the master of the ship, transmitted by the owners, asking tbat i\() action Bliould be taken until they bave sent in their statement of ulainis and a legal opinion on the entire ease. Until they do so I deem it best not to trouble your Lordship with the corrcspon- denco on the subject. I bave, &c. (Signed) R. B. D. MOlllEll. No. 4. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. — {Received at the Foreujn Office, November 28.) My liord, Oovernment House, Ottawa, November 6, 1888. I HAVE the honour to transmit to your Lordship a copy of an approved Ueiiort of a Committee of the Privy Council, submitting a communication fron Messrs. Hall, Gocj)el, and Co., Victoria, Britisb Columbia, the owners of the British schooner " Araiinab,'' together witli certain documents and facts in connection with the scizuii' of that vessel on the 1st July last, for an alleged violation of the Fishing and Iluntinir Laws of the Imj)crial Russian Government, by tbe Russian merchant-steamer "Alexander II," whilst in the prosecution of her legitimate calling as a scalinr scbooncr in the Beliring's Sea. Your Lordship will observe that a statement of this case has already been forwarded by Captain Siewerd, bis mate and crew, to Her Britannic Majesty's Charge d'AITairci^ at St. Petersburgh. My Government desire that a remonstrance may bo made to the Russian Govern- ment for so unwarrantable an act as that committed by the commander of tbn " Alexander II," and a claim made for the loss and damage sustained by the owners of the " Araunab " in consequence of this seizure in the open sea. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON, Inclosure 1 in No. 4. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council on October 22, 1888. ON a Report dated the 20th October, 1888, from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, stating, Avith reference to the communication, dated the 21st September, 1888, of Messrs. Hall, Goepel, and Co., Victoria, British Columbia, the owners of the British schooner " Arunab," that it appears from the statements accompanying the communication, that the vessel in question was seized on the 1st day of July last h\ the Russian merchant-steamer " Alexander II " for an alleged violation, in that part of the North Pacific Ocean known as Behring's Sea, of the Hunting Laws of tlie Russian Government. At the time of the seizure the " Araunah" was pursuing a legitimate calling in waters which are open to vessels of all nations. It further appears that a statement of this case has already been forwarded by Captain Siewerd, his mate and crew, to Her Britannic Majesty's Charg«5 d'Alfaircs at St. Petersburgh. The Minister recommends that a copy of Messrs. Hall, Goepel, and Co.'s letter, with its inclosures, be forwarded, through the proper channel, to Her Majesty's Government. The Committee concurring, advise that your Excellency be moved to forward copies of the papers herewith to the Right Honourable the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies for transmission to the Foreign Office, in order that remonstrance may be made to the Russian Government for so unwarrantrble an act as tbat committed by the commander of the " Alexander II," and a claim be made for such a reparation for the wrong done as may be commensurate with the loss and damage s Excellency the nate calling in forwarded l)v gustaitied by the ownuN of the " Aniunah " in cou8C(iuonco of this seizure in tlio open sea. All which is reHpi>ctfully submitted. (Signetl) JOHN J. McOEE, Clerk, Privy Council. Sir, IncloKuro 2 in No. 4. Mensrs. Hnll, Goepel, and Co. to the Hon. J. A. Chaplean. Government House, yictorin, Jiritinh Columbia, September 21, 1888. WE have the honour to transmit herewith certain documents and facts in cniiiu'i'tion with the seizure of our schooner " Araunah," on the 1st July last, for allogod violation of the Fisliing and Hunting 1 jaws of the Imperial Russian (Jovern- ment, by the Russian merchant-steamer " AIi',x.ander II," whilst in the prosecuti )n of her legitimate calling as a sealing-sehoonor in the Hohring's Sea, and whicli we respectfully urge is a part of the North Pacific Ocean, and open to the vessels of all nations. The cleiir and comprehensive letter statement on protest of Captain Siowerd, his mate and crew, addressed to Her Uritannic Majesty's Charge d'Alfaires at St. IVtcrsburgh, and sworn to before Her Britannic Majesty's Consul at Nagasaki, Japan, clearly sets forth an epitome of the circumstances attending the illegal seizure nt'our vessel, properly registered as a Canadian vessel, and flying the British flag, and loaves hut little for us to add in connection therewith. Inclosed will also be found copies of the telegrams that passed between the master of our vessel and the British Embassy at St. Potersburgh, and by which \\'i\ are assured that steps would bo taken, with least delay possible, in the direction desired, and that the Russian Government had been duly apprised of the seizure and its circum- stances. Although everything hts been done by the master that could reasonably be expected to place the niatt-^ in the proper and most direct channel for investigation, restitution, and protection of British interests upon the high seas, still we deem it expedient to ])romptly report to the Pederal Government at Ottawa, through you, tlie (act of the seizure (and what has been done to date) of our schooner whilst registered under the laws of the Dominion of Canada, with the full belief that his E...cellency the Governor-General in Council will cause such steps to be taken as will grant the lelicf and restitution which it is our pride and privilege to claim as loyal subjects of Her Majesty. In due coi.rse we shall forward a statement of claim of our loss against the Russian Gover.iment or whom it may concern. ^A'^fi fifl.vp AjC (Signed) ' HALL, GOEPEL, anu Co., Owners of Schooner " Araunah." Inclosure 3 in No. 4. Telegrams from Mr. Siewerd, Af aster of Schooner " Araunah," to the British Embassy at St, Petersburg h, and the Replies to same. Vladivosioch; August 9, 1888. SEALING schooner " Araunah," of Victoria, was set during a heavy fog and calm by current within 6 miles of southern extreme of Copper Island, when seized by Russian merchantman " Alexander II." Left here with crew, among them twelve Vancouver Indians, unprovided. Please advise. An^weTt Your telegram received. Steps will be taken with least delay possible. . ^,. v : t < J J i' i- i ' li h'' li r ''.^ (2.) Vladivostock, August 15, 1888. Will forward protest swoi..' to before Consiu at Nagasaki : also all documents pertaining to seizure. Please ox. vise if necessary to protest here. Also of other stei)s required here. Owners' names Hall and Goepel, Victoria. Answer. Your ease has been brought to the notice of Russian Government, who have telegraphed to inquire into it. You might protest locally. Porward all docunionts here. luclosure 4 in No. 4, Diagram illustrating Position of Schooner " Araunah " at time of Seizure. luclosure 5 in No. 4. Mr. Siewerd to Mr. Bering. Dear Sir, August 27, 18S8. REGARDING the seizure of the British sealing scliooiier " Araunali," of Victoria, British Columbia, by M. Grobnitzky iu tlio Russian merciiantman " .Vlexaudor II," for alleged violation of the Mshiug and Hunting Laws of tlie ■ .perial Russian Goveriuuent, of wliieli I informed you in my telegraphic despatch of the Utli August, 1888, from Vladivostoul;, T now respectfully submit tlie following facts : — On the 1st July, 1S88, at 0-30 a. jr., during a lieavy fug and calm, I cuiculatod the schooner's ])osition t') be 16 milc^ south by west of tlu! .southern extremity of Coupcr or Mcdncy Island. Judging myself in the open waters of the North Pacific Oc(ian, I ordered the canoes for hunting. At about 7'30 a.m. the fog lifted, when tiie schooner was found to be east by south, about 6 to 8 miles dista^it from the southern extremity of tlie island, with tlie janoes out to the south and Avest of the schooner. 'Wlieu in this jjositiou a steamer was sigiited, which bore at once down upon us, proving the Alaska Commercial Company's steamer "Alexam'er II," flying at peak the Prussian mercliauu ensign, and at inaintop a green flag witli Avhito cross. When noar, the schooiuH- was hailed, and I, the master was asked to come aboaid the steamer, which I did. AVlien on st(!amer's deck, I Mas informed by SI. Gioijuitzky that he would couliscate the scliooncr for being within tlio limit. This I dcuieil. but Av.'is answered that the boundary ran from Cape Lopatka to tlie Island of Attou, and that I could protest against tlie seizure to authorities at Vladivostock, where the ease would be forwarded. As tlie oiiiccr produced no documentary evidence of his authority. I asked ujxiit what authority the seizure was made, in answer to which the officer pointed to tiie llai; at maintop; .;aying, "There ia my authority." The oilieer and crew of schooni.'i' were then made prisoners, and trausferi'eil aboard steamer " Alexander II." The schooner was towed to the Scttleiiieut (llinka on Coppi.'r Island, where the skins, 133, were landed at Company's warehouse. Iteic 1 had to deliver the schooner's papers to Oflicer Grebiiitzky. Before doing so I demanded a paper stating the reason ot confiscation, wiiich I forward herewith, ami a copy of which I was asked to sign after it having been translated to mo h\ M. J. Mallinvcnsky to read iu substance. That this day the schooner " x\raunah " had been confiscated for hunting within the limits of the Russian possessions. I hereby notified SI. Grebnitzk} ti presence of SI. J. Slallinvensky, of my (irotest against the seizure, which protest I would make before the nearest Repre.scutalive of Her Britannic Slajesty s Government, and, in accordance with advice in your telegraphic despatch of 15th August, 1888, have protested to Admiral and (ioverinir of Vladivostock, the certified copy of which I send herewith. Th.e schooner was then brought to Petropaulovski by a crew of the steamer "Alexander," where, upon the arrival of the schooner, the salt, stores, jirovisions, and uLso part of personal property of crew, were sold by M. Grobnitzky vrlihout the con- fiscation having been declared legal liy any authority other than his own, 1 must add that we had no intention whatever to violate the laws of the Imperial Russian Govomment, but intended tfl follow the hunting in the waters of the North I'aeilio at, who have ill documents calculated the iiity of Conper icilic Ocean, I II tiio sehooner lerii extremity aer. "Wlieu in couie abuai'.l M. Gi'el)uit/.ky I ilonied. but of Attou. and here tlie ease uutiiii? witliin of my ()rotest lopresmitativc dvico iu yonr and (lov('i'iu)r f the steamer irovision?, and Ihout the con- lown. I. nuist perial lUissiaii I North I'acilic Inclosure ^ in N" 4. DIAGRAM ILLUSTRATING POSITION OF SCHOONER "ARAUNAH AT TIME OF SEIZURE. S,'* H.F. Steward. Master GLINKA Position when, seized 3 Calculiited position at 6. 30. a.m.. July 1V 188S. tz Scale of Miles w to hW .<>«. l*1i \ F.O.J IS. ■1 ^ I'om.Litl. 3'Mirtiua lA^ '-•' c If^ V « 2 4 i i| 1 .1 /(■ \' ' *# Oceau; neither had we any means to do otherwise, as tho hunting outlit consisted Df six Indian canoes manned hy two Vancouver Tiulinns (vicli. Had no fire-arms aboard save three old muzzle-loading shot-guns, being tiie property of some of the Indians ; also one shot-gun and one rifle, being the property of some of the members of tiic crew. From the foregoing it will be seen that the schooner was set by nn \mknown current, not marked upon the chart, to the north and cast of her course, and the canoes having left tho schooner during the fog, when tliere was no land in sight, nor anv visible sign to prove the calculated position ei-roneous, will explain tiie position of the canoes at the time of seizure. Also that the schooner was not less than the estimated miles from land is clearly proven by the "Alexander" steaming two hours and forty minutes at the rate of 6 knots per hour (see steamer's engineer's log) from point of seizure to Glinka, Avhich is 7 miles from south point of the island. This can be demonstrated on chart or diagram herewith, showing that it was impossible for schooner to have been, as alleged, within the 3 miles of gun-shot limit. As to the 133 seal-skins found on lioard, I refer to the schooner's fishing log, now in the hands of "the Imperial Russian Government. 1 also beg to call attention to the fact tliat the steamer " Alexander II " is owned bv the Alaska Commercial Company, who are also the lessees of Copper and Behring's Islands. As to the reliability of the statement of M. Grebnitzky as to tlie true position of schooner at time of seizure, I will say that M. Grebnitzky is no mariner, and consequently no competent judge to ])ersonally determine the exact position of scliooner. Turthermore, I learned ^vhile prisoner aboard the " Alexander," that neither the first nor second officers of the steamer had been called upon by Captain tironberg, of steamer, to witness or verify the bearing and distance of schooner, so that the judgment of the schooner's actual position at time of seizure is but the jucsswork of Captain Gronberg, of steamer " Alexander II," and of him alone, as a cousultation on this serious point might have resulted in proving the schooner beyond the limits. In submitting the above facts to your careful consideration, I beg that you will use every means in your power to effect a restitution of the unjustly and illegally coniiseated property, and payment of damages incurred thereby. Verv, &c. (Signed) * 11. F. SIEWERB, Master. The above sworii to befoi'c Her Britannic Majestj's Consul at Nagasaki by myself. (Signed) N. P. Bonde, Ma<e. W. Stanbish, Steward. G. Brum, P. DOEEING [NG,J A.B. and forwarded, together with all documents, by Consul Mr. Enslie to St. Petersburgh. h No. 5. Foreign Office to Mr. Siewerd. Sir, Foreign Office, November 28, 1888. 1 AM directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to acknowledge tlie receipt of your letter of the 29th ultimo, relative to the seizure of tho British schooner " Araunah " off Copper Island by tho Russians in July last. I am to forward you a copy of the Treaty between Russia and the United States of the 30th March, 1867,* and to inform you that the details connected with the seizure of your vessel have not yet reached Her Majesty's Government. I am, &c. ■■ ' „ ,- , , , ;. , (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. • See " State Papera," vol. Wii, p. 468, No. 6. Sir R. Morier to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received December 5.) My Lord, St. Petersburgh, November 30, 188S. WITH reference to my despatch of the 14th instant, I have the honour to state that I have now received the complementary information from the master of tlio " Araunah " wliich enables me to deal with the case. Before addressing the llussian Government on the subject, however, there arc two or three points on which I should be glad to receive guidance from your Lordship; and I think, therefore, that I cannot do better than to make a statement of the casf, so tliat its doubtful points may bo properly submitted to your consideration. The " Araunah," a British schooner, of British Columbia, master E. IL Siewerd, equipped for seal hunting, found hei'self, in accordance with the stat(!ment of the master, on the 1st July, 1888, at G-30 a.m., in a heavy fog and calm, IG niilos south by west of the southern extremity of Copper Island. Judging himself to be in the open waters of the North Pacilic Ocean, the master ordered the canoes out for hunting. At about 7"30 a.m. the fog lifted, when the schooner was found to be east by south about 6 or more miles distant from the south point of the island, with the canoes out at various distances to the south and west of the schooner, about 2 miles away from lier, the most distant being about 3 miles from the ship. When in this position a steamer was sighted, which bore at once down upon her. This proved to be the " Alexander II," a ship belonging to the Alaska Commercial Company of San Francisco. Slie was flying at the peak the Russian merchant ensign, and at the maintop a green flag witli white cross. The name of her master was Gronberg, that of the chief officer Arlcn, and of the second officer Imberg ; but besides these there was on board a M. Grebiiitzky, not a naval mar, who described himself as Superintendent of the Commander Islands. By his orders the " Araunah " was hailed, and her master, Mr. H. E. Siewerd, brouglit on board the "Alexander II." M. Grebnitzky then informed him that he would confiscate the schooner for fishing too near the land. Mr. Siewerd then asked hira on what authority he acted. M. Grebnitzky produced no documentary evidence, but pointed to the flag at the maintop, saying that there was his authority. The officers and crew of the "Araunah" were then transferred on board the "Alexander II," by which the British vessel was towed to the Settlement Glinka, on Copper Island. Here the skins, 13(5 in number, were landed, and the ship's papers delivered to M. Grebnitzky. The schooner was then brought by a crew of the " Alexander 11 " to I'etropaulovski, and upon her arrival the salt, stores, and provisions, and also part of the personal property of the crew, were sold by il. Grebnitzky, without the eonlisca. tion haviiYg been declared legal by any authority but by his own. On the IGtli August Mr. Siewerd, master of the "Araunah," entered a protest before tlie Governoi' of Vladivostcck, and another on the 27th at Nagasaki before Her Majesty's Consul there. The facts above stated are taken from these two protests. The latter, moreover, contains a diagram showing the nosition of the " Arauiuili " at the time of capture, and explains her position there on the hypothesis that she must have drifted from wIkh-o she was at G'30 to where she found herself at 7"30 under tlic impulse of a current not marked on the chart. In addition to these two documents, the master of the "Araunah" produces au affidavit signed by himself and a Captain Butler, whom he seems to have taken Avith him as a witness of a conversation held on the 16th October at San Francisco witli Gronberg, the master of the steam-ship " Alexander II." For Siewerd, on hearing that the " Alexander II " had proceede(l to San Francisco, went there to obtain a eopy of that vessel's log. Gronberg, however, refused to give him one, but volunteered to give him a verbal account of what took place. Si(>werd, in addition, asked various questions of Arlen, the chief officer, and Imberg, the second officer. The following axe the facts that were obtained by this process. Gronberg declared that he lad taken no regular bearings, but had only made a rough approximate guess ; that he had had no letter of marque at the time of the capture, but that, not wanting trouble, he had got one the same day after the capture. On being asked whether he remem- bered M. Grebnitzky saying to Siewerd, " I would seize you if you were 100 miles south of the islai.ds," he replied, " Yes, I heard M. Grebnitzky say this." To the questions put to him, M. Arlen, chief officer, replied that he had no idea whatever respecting the distance and bearing of the "Araunah" at the time of her ,c casf , so tlmt capture, as his opinion had not hcon asked, and ho did not trouble about it. The entry made by him in tlie log was what the captain had given liiin. In the opinion of M. Imberg, the second officei-, the schooner was from 5 to 7 miles distant from tlie land. I collect the following further facts from a letter, dated the 25th October, addressed by Mr. Siewerd to Ilor Majesty's Embassy ; — 1. That the steamer " Alexander II " being the property of the Alaska Cora- nicrc'ial Company of San Francisco, who are the lessees of tho seal trade in the North Pacific Ocean, including Copper and Behring's Islands, and that Company treating its servants exceptionally well and providing them witli liberal pensions, due caution should be taken in accepting Gronberg's evidence, as that of a servant of tho Company, as regards the position of the ship, on which alone the whole case of tho captors depends. 2. That the following conversation took place between Siewerd and M. Grebnitzky at the time of the capture. The former called the attention of the latter to the fact that lie considered himself, when soutli of the island, in the open waters of the North Pacific Ocean. "I would take you," replied Grebnitzky, "100 miles south of the Commander Islands if found with seal-hunting outfit on board," thus claiming jurisdiction to the parallel of Atton Island. Mr. Siewerd states that it is evident that M. Grebnitzky made the seizure in this belief. 3. Mr. Siewerd states that M. Grebnitzky is a civil officer, not a naval officer, that he is Inspector of the Commander Islands, that he receives a salary of 1,200 roubles per annum, that he is well feed by tiie Alaska Commercial Company, and that ho does everything to {"urther their interests, and to assist tliem in accomplisliiug their object, which is the extermination of private sealers, and the obtaining of a monopoly in this industry. Lastly, I received a letter, dated the 25th October, from Messrs. Hall, Goepel, and Co.. the owners of the ship, dated Victoria, British Columbia, the 25th October, in which those gentlemen assess their damages at 21,852 dol. 78 c., with recurring damages at tlie rate of 10,500 dollars per annum, should their claims not be settled by tho IDtli Pebruary next. The points of law and others on which I am anxious to take advice before writing to the llussian Government are the following : — 1. What are the minimum formalities required to constitute the legal capture of a foreign ship for acts rendering such ship liable to capture ? If the statements of the master of the " Araunah" are correct, the latter was captured by a ship belonging to a San Francisco private Company, with no Representative of the captnring Govern- ment on board but a Civil Inspector ; and witli no evidence of his holding a com- mission. When challenged \.o show his authority he is unable or unwilling to show papers, aiul only points to a green flag with a white cross, flying from the maintop, as his authority. I have ascertained that this flag was at one time the IJussian Customs flag, that it is no longer so used, : nd has been superseded by a blue one ; hot I have not yet been able to ascertain when the supercossion took place, which, of coarse, may turn out a point of capital importance. 2. What is the meaning of " letter of marque " in the sense used in the statements of the master of " Araunah " ? 3. The master of the " Araunah " deposes to the sale by M. Grebnitzky at Petro- paulski of the salt, stores, and provisions of tho vessel, and of part of the personal property of tho crew, without tho confiscation liaving been declared legal by any authority but that of Grebnitzky himself. It is nowhere stated that the schooner was disposed of, or that any steps were taken to have her condemned by a regular constituted Court. I have written to the owners to ascertain whether they have any knowledge on this subject. In the mean- time, I presume I may assume that the sale of the sliip's stores and the portion of the personal property of the crew on the sole authority of the captor was illegal. t. How does the matter stand as regards the presumed assumption by Grebnitzky that Russia had a jurisdiction of 100 miles south of the Commander Islands ? I regret to siiy that I am not au fait as to the present state of the controversy in regard to Paissian claims to a mare clausum in the North Pacific. Before concluding, I must allow myself an observation with reference to the description given by the master of the " Araunah " of tho position of his ship at the |3IHJ C t L 1 'I I ' t 14 » time of her capture, and of the circumstances which caused her being there. lie says that at 030 a.m. he calculated that the schoonor's position was 10 miles south by west. of the southern extremity of Copper Island. At this time, there being a heavy fo;^ and calm, he ordered the six canoes out for hunting. At 7"30 a.m., that is, an hour after- wards, the fog lifts, and the schooner is found at 6 miles distant from the south jjoint of the island, with the canoes to the south and west of tlie schooner, at a distance, with one exception, of not more than 2 miles from her. The inference of the master is that he was carried by an unknown current from the spot at which he was at 6'30 to that at which he was captui-ed at 7*30. If the diagram annexed to the affidavit taken before Her Majtaty's Consul at Nagasaki is correct, this distance would be 17| miles. It would, of course, not be fair to assume too great accuracy in a diagram of tliis kind. Nevertheless, the distance cannot be estimated at less than between 10 and 17 miles. I do not know whether such currents exist, but, if they do, it seems strange that the master and crow of the " Araunah" should not have been fully aware of the fact from the beginning, and still stranger that the six seal canoes should have placidly carried on their hunting operations under its impulse, which they must liave doue, seeing that when the fog lifted, they were within a 2 miles radius of the ship. I transmit the corrcspondenco herc\\ itli. (Signed) ' E,. B. 1). MORIER. P.S. — Sinci' the above despatcih was written for signature, I hav. ^>me carefully through the papers onoe more, and have noted two points which had previously escaped me : — 1. That in the certiQcate given by Grobnitzky he distinctly states the cause of the arrest of the " Araunali " to bo that of soal-catching within the Custom-house limit near Medney (Copper) Island. 2. That in the protest addressed to the Governor of Vladivostock, which diff(;rs in some respects from the declaration made before Her Majesty's Consul at Nagasaki, the whereabouts of the canoes is entered upon, but not dealt with, as it appeal's to me, in a satisfactory manner. Tor Mr. Sicwcrd admits that the scliooner being 6 miles olV, one at least ot her canoes Avas 3 miles away from lier, which might bring it dangerously near, if not actually on the Custom-house '. lit ; but then, further on, he admits hypothetically that the canoes might have been found within the Custom-house limits, and gives what ho considers satisfactory explanations for theii* being there. Lastly, he protests against the accusation made against the schooner that she was within the Custom-house limits, whereas the charge made by Grebrintzky is not that she (the schooner) was within those limits, but that she was seal-catching within thorn ; an operation ])erformed not by herself, but by tlie canoes sent out by her. Under tliese circumstances I consider that the charge brought by Mr. Siewerd against M. Grebnitzky of having captured the schooner on the ground of hor liavini; boon within 100 miles of Commander Isles need not be regarded as serious, seeing tiiat we have to deal with a written declaration, bearing Grebuitzky's signature, to tiio effect that he (jai)tured the " Araunah " for catching seals within the Customs limits. Accordingly it ap])ears to me that all I can do at present is to inquire of the Russian (lovornmcnt whether the schoon(>r has been condemned by a proper Court, it' not, when and Avbere her trial will take place, and what facilities will bo all'ordod to the owners f<n' defending themselves, and, in case she has been tried and condemned, to request that I may be furnished with the evidence on which the condemnation took place. Of course I should also inquire^ into the alleged sale of the siiip's stores and provisions l)efore she had been formally condemned. This final consideration of the case suggests a very important legal question. Supposing, which I strongly suspect woidd be found to be what actually hap])encd, that the schooner was outside the 3-mile limit, but one or more of the canoes inside it, would a Russian ship have had a legal right to capture the " Araunah " outside the Unit, that is on the high seas, for an iufraetion of Ruasiau i'ishiug Laws by her canoes within the limit ' a. B. D. M. 9 Tnclosure 1 in No. 6. Mr. Bitwerd to Mr. Bering, August 27, 1888. [Seo Inclosure B in No. 4.] Inclosuro 2 in No. 6. Petition. (Translation.) To his Excellency the Military Governor of Vlndivostock. Tlio Petition of H. E. Siewcrd, master of the British schooner " Araunali." AFTER the capture of the British seal-catching schooner " Arannah," belonging to the port of Victoria, in Britisli Colunihia, Messrs. Hall and Goopcl owners, for a certain infringement of the laM's of His Imperial Majesty, I, the undersigned master of the above-mentioned schooner, feci myself bound to state as follows. On the 1st July (n.s.) of the present year, about 0-30 a.m., and during a dense fog and calm, considering myself to the south-west and at a distance of Ki miles frnni the southern extremity of Medney Island, and thinking that I was in tlic open waters of the Pacific Ocean, I sent canoes for soal-himting [lit., "sporting." — J. M.]. About 7"30 the fog began to clear oil", and it appeared tliat the .schooner Avas east hy south of tlie above point, and at a distance of (i miles and n)ore from it; the canoes were to the south-M'cst of the schooner, and about 2 miles away from her, the most distant canoe being about 3 miles away from the ship. While in this position I observed a steamer bearing down straight on us, and slic proved to be the Russian merchant-steamer " Alexander," flying the Russian commercial flag at her galf, and a green flag with a Avhite cross at her niaiutopgallant mast. She hailed the schooner, and T, the master, was ordered to come on hoai'd. "When I ijot on board the steamer I was told by an officer avIio was on board (I snlwetpiently discovered it was M. Grebnitzky) th.-it the schooner was confiscated liecause she was too near to the coast. I wanted, and endeavoured to explain the reason of this, but was told that I could protest to the authorities at Vladivostock, whither an exphmation of the circumstances of the case would be sent. As this officer, however, did not cxlnl)it any documents establishing his identity, I asked him what was bis authority for seizing the schooner, upon which M. Grebnitzky, pointing to the flag flying at main- topgallant mast, replied that was his authority. After this the olficers and saih)rs of tiu! crew were arrested and transferred on board the steamer. The scho >ner Avas toAved to the Settlement of Medney Island, to which 13S of our seized seal-skins Avere convoyed. Of these 133 skins, two were obtained during tlic fog of the 1st July, and the remaining 131 skins Averc i)rocured on the north-Avestern coast of America and ontiioso of the Nortli Pacific Ocean. After this the schooner was sonttoPetropauli)vski, where the salt, crew's provisions, &c., were sold by M. Grebnitzky. ving described the circumstances of the case, I have the honour to state to your iiat she I'oUoAV- ExecUency that f protest against the accusation made against the schooner was Avithin the Custom-house limit, i.e., less than 3 miles froni the shore. TIk iug- may serve as proofs. During tiie fog and calm the schooner was caiTied by an unknown current to the north and east from her course ; the canoes Averc dispatched to hunt, as already stated, during the fof; and calm, because I considered I Avas 10 miles from the shore. If the canoes were found within the Gustom-liouse limits, the foregoing circumstances Avould explain their presence there. The principal proof that the schooner was not less than 6 miles from the nearest point of the coast, and even more, is afforded by the fact that tlie steamer occupied two hours and forty minutes in steaming from the place of the scliooner's seizure, which is situated (o the east and south from the southern point; to Glinka Settlement (the Settlement is north-west of the point, at a distance of 7 miles from it), the steamer tOAving the schooner at the rate of (5 miles an hour ; measuring by the chart, it is evident tlwt the schooner was at a greater distance than G miles from the nearest shore, i.e., from the southern extremity of Medney Island ; hence it follows [310J C 2 * * j. I W l''\! lit ] ■ 'I ■ :| Mi i ■',■ m ii':-]'. m B-: W> i> -.1 il " '' L ml ■ii I m m m 10 that tlio canoes could not have boon within the limits of jurisdiction of the Custom- house. In addition to this, I beg that the fact may be taken into considovation that there was no intention to infringe the laws of the Imperial Russian Govornnient in any form soever, and that I was fishing [/«<., " hunting "], in accordance witli the instructions of my owner, in the open waters of the Pacific Ocean. I would also add that I verbally informed M. Grebnitzky that I Avas bound to protest in the nearest British Government OfRce [lit., " institution "], of which protest this rotition is a copy. I, therefore, have the honour to request your Excellency not to leave the above- descril)cd case without examination, as also to convince yourself of the truth of my assertions by examining my crew under oath. I request that a copy may be issued to me of this Petition. Vladivostock, August 6, 1888. I attest the correctness of this copy of the original. (L.S.) (Signed) (Signed) H. POPOFF, Chief of Chancery. C. P. MUTZ (sic), Rear-Admirnl. Inelosurc 3 in No. G. Diagram. [See Inelosurc 4 in No. 4.] Inelosurc l in No. 0. Certificate. (Translation.) THIS 19th day of June, 1888, by decision of the Superintendent of the Commodore Islands, in accordance with the Order of the Governor-General and the Notice issued by the Imperial Russian Government against illegal hunting and fishing within the limits of Russian territories in the Pacific Ocean, has been confiscated the scliooner " Aiaunah," Siewerd master, for seal-catching near Medney Island, within the Customs limit In proof of which this certificate, with seal attached, has been issued to Mr. Siewerd. (Signed) GREBNITZKY, Superintendent of Commodore hlaiuh. Victoria, British Columbia, June 19, 1888. (Seal of Superintendent of Commodore Islands.) Inelosurc 5 in No. 6. Mr, Siewerd to Mr. Bering. Sir, Victoria, British Columbia, October 25, 1888. THE Russian steamer " Alexander II " arrived at San Francisco, California, from Petropaulovski, Kamtschatka, on the 12th October, 1888. I went to San Francisco for the purpose of obtaining a copy of the steamer's logs, by which I could prove the schooner's position at the time of seizure, as stated in my protest, and the contents of these logs had been shown to mo privately both by the chief officer and chief engineer of steamer. Upon consulting Her Britannic Majesty's Consul at San Francisco, California, ( found that we had no power to compel the master of a Russian vessel in an American ^)ort to produce his logs ; 1 therefore concluded to formally demand same of the master ecn issued to It of tlie steamer "AUxantler II," the result of which you Till see from inclosed affidavit. In connection with the facts already submitted to you in the official documents, I (jko the liberty to bring to your notice a few remarks which I did not deem prudent to insert in the protest. 1. The steamer " Alexander II " is the property of the Alaska Commercial Com- 1 pany of San Francisco, California, the lessees of the seal islands in the North Pacific I Ocean, including Copper and Bchring's Islands. Tlio "Alexander II" hails from Vladivostock, and is commanded by Captain Gronberg, a resident of Oakland, California, who has been in the service of the Company [or the past fourteen years. Tlie Alaska Commercial Company pays its servants well, and when after a term of vcars they arc unfit for service, gives them a liberal pension ; this liberality, of I course, makes the employes, with perhaps few exceptions, pliable tools of the I Company. I mention this as the authority as to the schooner's position, &c., at time of I seizure on the part of the Eussian Government will be principally that of Captain I Gronberg alone, and ou account of the above facts should be taken with duo caution. 2. At time of seizure I called attention of M. Grebnitzky to the fact that I con- liidered myself in the open waters of the North Pacific Ocean when south of the islands, when he replied, " I would take you 100 miles south of the Commander Islands if found with seal-hunting outfit aboard," claiming jurisdiction to the parallel lotAtton Island, and it is evident that he made the seizure in this belief. 3. As to M. Grebnitzky, the Representative of the Imperial Russian Government, I I will briefly say what I learned about him. Grebnitzky is a civil officer (no naval officer), is Inspector of the Commander I Islands, said to receive a Government salary of 1,200 roubles per annum. It is an open secret that he is well feed by the Company and sees that everything is done to turtlicr the wishes and interests of the Alaska Commercial Company, one of which is the extermination of private sealers by either foul or fair means, and to obtain the I monopoly of this industry. Tlic Russian Government will have no trouble to convince itself of the true I character of Grebnitzky, as Dr. Grencvitzky, a military pliysieian, who resided two vcars on Copper and Bchring's Islands, lias returned to Vladivostock on the 18th August, 1888, to report to his Excellency Governor-General Korff about the state of alTairs ou the islands and the relations of the Government's servant Grebnitzky to tlie Alaska Commercial Company. From this source sufficient can be learnt to prove beyond doubt that the seizui'c, although made by the person Grebnitzky as a Russian I official, it was practically made by order and in the interest of the Company. I liave endeavoured to give you the undisguised facts of the case in my own way I and language ; I now here rest my case, and again earnestly pray you to use every means in your power to secure a restitution of the so unjustly and illegally confiscated property, and payment of the damages incurred. I am, &c. (Signed) F. H. SIEWERD, Late Master of the British Schooner " Araunah." Inclosure 6 in No. 6. Air. Siewerd j Mr, Bering. I Sir, Port of San Francisco, California, October 18, 1888. IN order to obtain the proof of the assertions made in my protest against the cgal seizure of the British sealing -schooner " Araunah," which protest I forwarded I to you from Nagasaki, Japan, I called upon Captain Gronberg on board the Russian merchant-steamer "Alexander II," now lying at this port, and in presence of the undersigned witness. Captain George Ball, asked Captain Gronberg for a copy of the steamer's logs of the day 1st July, 1888, on which day said steamer ■•Alexander II," I of which said Captain Gronberg was then master, captured the British sealing-schooner "Araunah," off Copper Island. Captain Gronberg flatly refused to give any copy of I the logs, but volunteered to give me a verbal account. Captain Gronberg states, " The schooner bore at time of capture about east by soutli-half-south, distant 3 miles from south-east point of island." i r 1 m I , 1 If 1^^ '.f. 1 ^l ' I } . h I h" I asked, " By what method did you determine this distance, by cross henvinps or four point bearings ? " Captain Gronberg replied, " I just made a rough guess." Captain Ball, the witness, spoke, " Your iudgmcut as to distance ia then only by an approximation ? " Captain Gronberg replies, " Tes, Sir." I then asked of Captain Gronberg, " Had you a letter of marque at the time you captured the ' Araunah ? " Captain Gronberg answered, " No, Sir, but I got the letter the same day after the capture as I did not want any trouble." I asked, " Do you remember having heard M. Grobnitzky say, ' I would seize vou if you were 100 miles south of the islands ? '" Captain Gronberg replied, " Yes, I heai-d M. Grebnitzky say this." I next asked M. Arlin, chief officer, " Do you know the disiance and bparing of the * Araunah ' at the time your steamer captured her ? " M. Arlin replied, " I have no idea whatever ; as my opinion was not asked, I did not trouble about it." I asked, " Did you not make the entry in the ship's log ? " M. Arlin replied, " Yes, I copied Avhat the captain gave me." I also questioned M. Trubcr, second officer, as to his knowledge as to the beariii" and distance of the " Araunah " at time of capture. M. Trubcr states, " In my opinion the schooner was about 5 to 7 miles fioni the land." I We, the Undersigned, solemnly swear that we have carefully read over the \ foregoing, and that it is a true and correct statement of the intervio^v M'liicli took ' place on board the Russian merchant-steamer "Alexander II" on Tuesday, Kith October, 1888. (Signed) H. F. 8IEWERD, late Master of nritish Schooner " Araunah." (Signed) George Bail. Subscribed and sworn to at the Bi ^h Consulate, San Prancisco, this 18th day of { October, 1868. Before me, (Signed) Denis Donohoe, Consul, San Francisco, (Consular Stamp.) Dominion of Canada, Province of British Columbia : I, John Joel Austin, a Notary Public duly commissioned for the Province of! British Columbia, hereby certify that I have carefully examined the document hereto f annexed, contained on three folios, with the original sworn declaration and letter, and declare that the annexed is a true and correct copy of said original letter aud all j attestations thereto. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office at Victoria, this 25th day of October, 1888. (Signed) Jno. J. Austin, a Notanj Public in and for the Province of British Columbia. (Seal.) Inclosure 7 in No. G. Messrs. Hall, Goepel, and Co. to Mr. Bering. Dear Sir, October 25, 1888, WE last had the honour of addressing you on the 27th ultimo [?], copy of which I has already gone forward. We now have the pleasure of inclosing affidavit, made I before the British Consul at San Prancisco, California, of Captain H. P. Siewerd and] Captain Ball, relative to an interview had with the captain of the "Alexander 11" j (steamer) on his arrival at that port, re position of schooner " Araunah " at the time! of seizure. The document we think explains itself, and greatly strengtliens oiu- case,! taking into consideration the impossibility of making Gronberg produce his log-hook, j wln(;h is the private property of the Alaska Commercial Company. We also inclose| iirMi ros9 'befiviii{»8 or is then only Ijy it the lime you le day after the would seize you I and boaring of | not asked, I did s to the bearing I 1 miles fi'oni tlie r read over the now whieli took I Tuesday, Kith aster of British , this 18tli dav of ;lie Province of ocument hereto n ;ind letter, and lal letter and ;ill ffice at Victoria, 13 itittcmcnt of claim amounting to 21,852 dol. 75 c. Wo have made this claim as clear as possible without exnggei-ating values, which will save a good deal of writing ssking for explanation. Tlio cost of schooner we have put at her market value ready I for sea. The outfit for sealing cruize is actual, for which we have vouchers. The estimated catch of 2,100 skins, at per net profit 6 dollars per skin, wo arrive I at as follows : — Dol. 0. Orn«( rnliie of •k!n8 nt . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 SO Li'M iilluwed Indians per okin, nnd part of outfit, consumed in the ihopo of provinioni, &o. .. .. .. .. .. ., 2 6U 5 00 The items following in Statement arc actual. The foot-note also explains itself. I IJie account hears interest at the rate of 10 per cent, per annum until paid. Also if ffp arc not in a position on tho 15th February, 1889 (the day on which the next season commences) to send out a schooner sealing, we shall incur the same amount of loss next your, and consequently are entitled to the same amount of damages, viz., the net profit on the catch, 10,500 dollars. The same for every ensuing year. fl'e trust these explanations are clear to you, and that you will have no difficulty in placing our claim before the Bussian Government. Wo inclose a letter from Captain Siewerd, promised in his to you of the 26th ultimo, which may, wc think, be of assistance in establishing our claim. We can only ask you to do all in your power on our behalf, and thanking you for the trouble you have already been put to in this I matter. Awaiting your advice, wo have, &c. (Signed) HALL, GOEPEL, and Co. Inclosure 8 in No. 0. Statkjient of Claim made by Messrs. Hall, Goepol, and Co., of Victoria, British Columbia, owners of the British schooner "Araunali," against the Imperial Kussian Government, lor illegal seizure of said schooner " Aruunah " by the steamer " Alexander II," in the open waters of the Behriug's Sea, on the 1st dav of July, 1888. CuBt of f-clioonor rcndy for aeu . . , . Outfit fur scaling crnizc . . . . . . . . . . , . Estimated natcli of senln (2,100), at per net profit .5 dollars . . . . Moneys laid out by master while in bands of Russian Qovcrument, for sub- sisteiicc cbargca incurred . . . . . . . . . . Wages to nmstir and crew . . , . . . . . . . Fare of master and crew from Vancouver to Victoria, Britisli Columbia , . Cost of transporting (? Indian) crew to west coast of Vancouver Island Total Bearing interest at the rate of 10 per cent, per annum, and recurring damages I from loss of schooner of 10,500 dollars if not paid by the 15th Eebruary, 1889, and the same amount for every ensuing year. (Signed) HALL, GOEPEL, and Co., Owners of British Schooner " Araunah." October 25, 1888. Dol. 0. 8.0U0 00 2,032 02 10,500 00 180 00 800 13 30 00 2.50 00 21,852 75 :'i t >s ( f < U to&er 26, 1888. ], copy of which ; affidavit, made I . F. Siewerd and I "Alexander 11"] lali" at the time I igt^iens our case, ace his log-book,! We also inclose I No. 7. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R. Morier. I Sir, Foreign Office, December 11, 1888. I HAVE received your Excellency's despatch of the 30th ultimo relative to the Iseizui-e of the British, schooner "Araunah" by a vessel belonging to the Alaska I Commercial Company, and to the detention of the ship and sale of her stores at I PetropaubTsk. I am of opinion that the proper course will be that you should in the first I instance, as you suggest, address a note to the Eussian Grovemment, inquiring ,.^.-.- T4 whotluT tli(! schooner has been oondomncd hy a proper Court, nnd, if ho, nvjiicsiin.r i,, bo furnishctl with the evidence on which tlie eonilenuiiition took place; l)u(, if J',,,] rcipiestin^ to be informed when the trial will take place, and what facilities win j,^ afforded to the owners for their defence ; and fvirtlier imiuiring into tlie ailc-cd sale of th<r shi|)'8 stores nnd provisions before she had been formally condemned. Upon receipt of the reply of the Ilnssinn (iovernment, any points of law wiiidi may arise upon it can, if necessary, he rciftn-red to the Law Oflleers of tlie Crown. Jud!;in<r from the evidence at present in the possession of Jler Majesty's (iovcni. ment, Mu- proceedini^s would seem to call for the fullest inquiry. Hut it would lie prenriture to do more than claim such inquiry before the statement of tlie iinijositc ' party has been received. I am, &c, (Signed) SALTSHURY. No. 8. Sir R, Morier to the Marquh of Salisbury, — {Received December 1 7.) (Extract.) St. Pelersburgh, December 12, 1888. AVITIT ref(>rence to previous despatches, and to your Lordsliip's of the I 4th instant, transmitting copies of correspondence Avith the Canadian Govenuncnt on I the 8ul)j(!ct of the seizure of the schooner •' Araunah," I have the honour to inclose copy of a letter which I have addressed to Messrs. Hall and Goepel, the proprietors of j the ship. I confess that the more I have looked into the case the more I have inclined to I the belief that, thouijjh the schooner herself was outside the territorial waters, tlie hunting canoes were cither inside the limit or dangerously near to it. Inclosure in No. 8. Sir R. Morier to Messrs. Hall, Goepel, and Co. Gentlemen, St. Petersburgh, November 30, 1888. HAVING received the linal communication which you had announced fioiutliej master of the " Araunah," I have submitted the whole case to a careful exaniiiiation,! with a view to submitting it to the llussian Government. In doing so, however, I j have found that there are some points which require elucidation, and respecting wliieli therefore, I have to request you to give mo further information. 1. As regards the positions of the schooner at 7'30. In Mr. Siewerd's declnrationj it is stated that at G'30 a.m. he was distant 16 miles south by west of the soutliei'n[ extremity of Copper Island, at which time he ordered the canoes out for iuiiilini,'. Atj 7'30 A.M., that is, an hour afterwards, the fog having lifted, the sohooner was found toj bo cast l)y south (5 miles distant from the south point of the island, with the caiKies nut] at 2 miles distant from the sloop, one only being as far as 3 miles. A diagram ;;iviii;,'j these positions approximately accompanies Mr. Siewerd's declaration, and aecdidiii!,' toj this declaration the space traversed l)y the schooner between 0"3() and 7'30 a.m., tliat j is, one hour, must have been 174 miles, end as the canoes had remained in jjioximityr to the ship, they also, whilst carrying on their lumting operations, must have beeuj drifting at the rate of between 15 and 17 miles an hour. The tremendous rapidity ofj this current, which it is stated appears upon no chart, and of which the master of tliej sloop does not seem to have been aware, though carried along at this great rate otj speed, requires some explanation. 2. Much is made by Mr. SioAverd of the statement of Grebnitzy that lie wouldl have seized the " Ai-auuah," had she been fitted out with apparatus for seal-eatdiiii!;, anywhere within 100 miles south of Commander Islands. Had ho assigned tliis as liisk true motive for capturing the ship, the case would bo a very grave one, but as he iiasi given his motives for capturing the ship in a written declaration, wo are hound to gol by that, and are not at liberty to go outside this declaration and supersede a docuraentl signed and sealed by anything he may have said vivd voce. It appears to me that it is of extreme importance to note the exact woixls of tbcl certificate, which does not state that he confiscated the schooner for being within tlie| Customs limit, but fov seal hunting within the Customs limit of Medney Island. VLISHUllY. Vow, it appoai-s from tlu; (loscrl|)tions j^ivoii hy Mr. Sicwt-nl timt thti sonl Ininting ii not perfornit'd by the seal sclioononj thortiHelvos, hiit by the canoes wbich uro ilisnatcbod from tliom, and I take it that tbo point tiiat will bavo to bo dftormined will bo wbetlier any of tlic canoes wcro witliin tin; Customs limit. On tbis point it appears to mo (hat tbc Petition addressed by ^fr. Siewerd to tbe Governor of VIndivostoek is far from elenr. He admits tliat one of bis canoes was :i miles away fmin tbe sbip, wbib; tbe sbip was (5 miles away from tlio land, wbicb mif^bt brina; it (laiii^erously close if not actually on tb(! Custom-bonso limit. In anotber portion of tlij I'clition, bowovcr, be seems bimself in doubt upon tbe subject, for be says, "If the canoes were found uitbin tbe Custom-bouse limits, tbe fon'i^oing cin-umstaiices would oxjjlain tbeir presence fbcn>." I would further acid with reganl to tbis Petition that Mr. Siewerd protests " against tbe accusation made atjainst tbe sebooner that sbe was witbin tbo Custom-bouso limits, id est, less than .'I miles from tbe shore." As before stated in tbe only otfieial document M'bicb lias been forwarded to mo, namely, M. (Jrebnitzky's certitlcate, tbis accusation is not made tbe motive assigrmd fen* bor seizure, but tbat sbo was seal bunting witbin those limits, that is, that the canoes were ffitliin those limits. Tbe conversation between Siewerd and ('aptain (Jronberg, of ffhieli an aflldavit is given in Mr. Sicword's letter of tbe 18tb October, throws no ligbt upon tbo subject, because all tbat Captain Gronberg voucbsafos to say is tbat tbe scliooner was about cast by south and a half sontb, distant 3 miles from tbo south-east point of tbe island, wbicb might leave ber just inside or outside tbe limit. It is theni'ore perfectly clear tbat tbc ground thoy will tak(> up will bo tbat tbe canoes and not tbe schooner were witbin tbo limits. You must, tberefore, be jirepan^d with all the evidence you can procure to disprove tbo presence of tbo canoes tbere. ;{. Mr. Siewerd states, in l)otb bis declaration and Petition, tbat tbc stores, salt, ic, of tbe " Araunab " were sold at Petropaulovski on no otbcn- responsibility than M, (irebnitzky's. No mention, however, is made of tbe sebooner itself, and I liivc therel'ore to request you to inform mo wbetber it is witbin your knowledge tbat Mie lias been brought, or tbat it is intended to l)ring hor, before a Court for condemnation, and, in that case, l)efore wbat Court ? I will, in conclusion, call attention to a slight discrepancy as regards tbc nur.bor of the seal-skins landed at Copper Island, wbicb, in tbe declaration before llcr Majesty's Consul are described as being 130, and in the Petition to the Governor of VIndivostoek as 133. I am, &c. (Signed) R. B. D. MORIER. No. 9. I ord ><tuiiley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. — {Received nl the Forei'/n Office, January 5, 1889.) )Iy Lord, Oovernment House, Ottawa, November 27, 1888. UEFEllRING to my despatch of tbo 6tb instant, I bave tbe honour to transmit to your Lordship a copy of an approved Report of a Committee of the Privy Council, submitting copies of further correspondence on tbo subject of the seizure of the British schooner " Araunab " in Behring's Sea by the Russian merchant-steamer "Alexander II." I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosure 1 in No 9. i'ertijied Copy of a Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council on the 26th November, 1888. ON a Memorandum, dated the 22nd November, 1888, from the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, recommending that copies of further correspondence on the subject of the seizure of the British schooner " Araunab " in Behring's Sea by the Russian merchant-steamer " Alexander II " be also forwarded, through the proper channel, to Her Majesty's Government, in conjunction with tbe Minute of Council of the 22nd October last, on the same subject, the Committee advise that your Excellency [SIO] D (I . .! I ! if ii :' tl II 'i i '' •J ::- ?• I ! . X- I- T ■ en \'- -It ■' mm mm. 16 be moved to forward copies of tlu; papers liciewith to the Jlight lIonoural)le tlio S(!cretary of State for the Colonies, for trausniissioii to tlu: Foroi^'u Office, in fuvtlior support ol' th(^ claim to be jjreferrcd. A]l wbicb is respectfully submitted. (Signed) JOHN McGEE, Clerk, Privy CoitncH. Inclosure 2 in No. D. Messrs, Hall, Goepel, and Co. to Mr, J. A. Cliapleau. Kir, Victoria, British Columbia, October '2{>, 1888. WE last bad the honour of addressinu; you o" tlte 21st ultimo, and liavo siuw rcc?i"od yoxu" letter of the 1st instant acknowledging^ same, statinu; tiiat the scizinii; of the .whooncr " Araunah " by the Imperial llussian Government will n-ceive considora- tiou at the hands of your (lovernment. We now have tli(> lu/:M)iir to inclose copy of a letter forwarded yesterday to IL N. Doring, Esij., St. Petersl)m'gh, Russia; "ilso co])v of statement of claim ; as also notarial copy of ailidavit made in San i'raucisco, Caliiornia, before tlic British Consul, by the late captain of tlie schooner aud Cantair, Hall. Wo trust these papers, which complete our evidence, Avill also recuivu tlio consideration of your (iovernment, and that you will be able to urge our claim against the Russ^'iau Government. Wo have, &c. (Signed) HALL, GOEPEL, and Co. Inclosure 3 in No. 9. Mr, Siewerd to Mr. Bering , October 18, 1888. [Seo Inclosure 6 in No. 0.] Inclosure 4 in No. 5). Certijicite, [See Inclosure 6 in No. 6.] Inclosure 5 in No. 9. ^lessrs. Hall, Goepel, and Co. to Mr. Dering, October 25, 1888. [SvC Inclosure 7 in No. C] Inclosure G in No. 9. Statertient of Claim. [See Inclosure 8 in No. 6.] If No. 10. Sir R, Morier to the Marquis of Salisbunj. — (Received Januarij 14, 1889.) My Lord, St. Petersburgh, December 'di), l^^^ I HAVE the honour to transmit herewith copy of a letter which I Invei addressed to M. do Giers on the subject of the seizure of the "Araunah," iu com-L pliance with the instructions contaiui i in your Lordship's despatib of the LltliH jj y ^^ instant. I '"''■^tm" ' I have ±- I "'"^ (Signed) 11. B, D. MORIEK. ■ ""♦'' ''«f"^ 17 Inclosuii.: ill X(i. 10. Sir R. Morin to .U. do G!r:.s. w. lo Ministre, Si. Prtn-.^hurgli, Dccniiber ;?(), 1888. I HAVE tho liouour to call your Kxccllcncy's attention to tiu- t'oliowinit stato- iiiMit with ivfonmco to an incident Mliicli occ-iii'r.'il oil' tlto smtliorn extremity of Copper Island on tlu; Ist July of the present year. The " Araunah," a Uritish schooner I'roni Ihitisli Colninl)ia, niast(>r F. 11. Siewcrd, oquippcd for seal Imnlin'^, found lun-sclf on tho date in (juestion. at ti 30 a.m., in a liMvy foa; and cvhn, K! miles south hy '.rest olT the soiitiiern extremity ol Copper Isloiul. Jndcrini,' himself to bo in the open Avators of tho North Pacific Ocean, the Duistcr ordered the canoes out for hiiutiug. At about T'UO a.m. the fog lifted, when the schooner M'as found to bo oast by south at a distance of about or more miles from Copper Island, havin£^ been carried by a current not marked upon the Chart, with the canoes out at various distances to her south and ■west, and at al)out 2 miles away from I'ov, tlu' most distant beiii<^ 3 miles oil'. When in this position a st(>anior was sighted, n-iiicli bore at once down ujjon the schooner. 'Ibis ])roved to be tho "Alexander II," a ship belonging to the Alaska Commercial Company of San Fraucisco. She was Hying at the peak the llussian merchant ensign, and at the maintop a green Hag with a white cross. The name of her master Ava i Tronberg, that of the chief oHicer Arlin, and of tho second ofliccr Imberg, all of theni >ervants of the American Company; but hiisiiles these there was on board a M. Grebiiitzky, a civilian, who describe<l himself as " Superintendent of the Commander Islands." J5y his orders the " Araunah " was hailed, and her .uaster brought on board the "Alexander IF." M. (irebnit ky then informed him that he would confiscate the schooner for tishing too near the laud. Jtr. Siewerd asked him on what authority he a(!ted. M. Grebnilzky produced no documentary evidence, but pointed to tlu; flag at the maintop, the green on(! with a white cross, saying that that was his authority. The ofllcers and crew of the "Arxunah" were then transferred on board the "Alexander II," by which the liritisii vessel was towed to the Settlement of Glinka on Copper Island. Here the seal-skins, i;i(i in number, were landed, and the ship's papers delivered to M. Grebnitzky. The schooner was then brought by a crew from the "Alexander II" to Pctro])aulovski, and upon her arrival the salt stores and provisions, as well as a part of the personal property of her crew, wen; sold by j\[. Grebnitzky, without the conti.scation having been lieeiared to be legal by any authority but his own. I have been instructed by Her Majesty's Govc^rnment to request your Excellency to i'!uise an in(iuiry to be; made by :he jjroper authorities into tiu! circumstances of the seizure of this schooner, which, upon the evidence at present before tlunn, seems to liave l)een of an arbitrary, not to say illegal, character. I b.ave specially to inquire whi'tlier she has l.'ccn condemned by a proper Court, and, if so, to request that your Excellency will kindly furnish me with the evidence on which the coiuieinnation took phice, or, in the case of her not yet having been condemned, that I may hi; informed ffiwMi iier trial will take place, and what facilities will be alforded to tiie owners lor tiieir defence. I liave at the same time the honour to request you to furnish me with iiilorniation with respect to the alleged sale of the ship's stores and previsions before shfi had formally been condemned. 1 have, &c. (Signed) E. B. D. MOIMEll. No. 11. Sir R. Moriti- to the Marquis of Salhliiiri/, — {Received AKr/iixf 30.) (Kxtract.) St. Petershuujh, August 2G, 1881). I HAVE the honour to transmit herewith the inclosed co])y of a note i'roni the Russian Government, dated the Ith (KUh) instant, in reply to my note of th(^ 18th (30th) December, respecting the case of the schooner " Araunah." confiscated by th? Russian authorities for unlawful seal-hunting in the proximity of Copper Tshuid. The case is too full of legal points for me to undertake to reply to the llussian note before it has been submitted to your Lordship's consideration. [316] D S vn I ■ ^^ ! i - 1'' 1 I i) i, M I: -'I ■! it UiJk V II V, .:H m h 1.1, ■: I B i'' 4t' -SiVMitiit i F. Incl«»«ure in No. 1 1 . M. de Gier.i f>» glr R. Mnrltr. Mini»l^rf dm Affaires Elrnmjeres, t:iaint-Pc'tcrsbnttr<i M. I'AmlKissadeur, U 4 {Id) Aout, 1889. 4'AI fxartiMucid hm-u lanottMle votiv K*<w>JIenc(i en dato du ^i^ (I'o) [? 18 (.'iO,)] Dt^coinhrc, 1888, ri>lativ(> h FafTairp du s<^k*«»Mii»r Ani^lais "Araimali," coutisqiu'' par les aiitoriti's Russcs ]wur s'Ati'o livrtf a Sa <^liai»<iie des ot-iries a proxiiniti! dis I'He Mediicy. Votrp ExffllciH'c ayaiil dftnande do pwovoir cominiinicatioii dcs infonnalions qiip Ics autoritt's hnporiaics atiraiHiit ('"t/ de ieur ooU'% <,*n m inre dc fournir siir cettc affaire, j'ai i'honiK'ur de vous ('aire |»arf 4t'M «t<wmws (jmo m'n transmiso a eet c'vard M. le Goiivorn«ur-<i»*»>MVi'l d«' I'yVmour. Vous voudrt'z bicn -> rclcver, j'<>.s|>'re. Ml ''\h. 'Si.4i'\if quo la (iondiiite de i';uifori^^ liusso en eetd' i '"■Divslancr ;t (''te toift i\ IfAJt n\s»«li<»w;. En *>• qui touclie d'alxwvl I'cssenco inonic de l-adBiiro, c'eat-a-diro la iH)iilisi.';iti()n du ])fttin*i»'nt Anglais, <<«*tt«» »ii*esuro se trouve «ititit'iw«sneiif jutteiftec par lo Jait que " I'Araunah " so livrait si In ("t^sso dos otnrios dan« la limit** d*> •«»» eaux territorialos. L«»s piApos du dossior (■<»tiuui"->^>)u<'' par M. lo (i()uvoi'ni'!HM''(i»^n^wtil <'t nolaiiiiiKnil !o Ra])pot^ do rautofilo <pii a conrtVt*t<- lo ilagraut, dt^lit, c'o»t-a-<tt«»«» m .VI. Grel)iiit/sky, Intoudant des ilos du C()iniuan(ioi»r, )\(^ lais^^i nt aiioun douto a oiH. •'•lyard. IVimpossi- bilito i)t)ur M. lo Capitaiuo do " r.Waiwnah " lU^ deui«r aujoui'd'imi le earactc^r*! iviiiilier do la saisio rosulto d'aill(^ul•s d'ur. dooumcnt oiyaloiucwt joint an dossier : '-'est l';u'ti' do oonlisoation drosso par ^\. (irol)nitnsky of sur ioquol Mr Siowerd a 'vppcM*'- sa si^uatiu'c sans proto.station, biou (|iril ait oto avorti par J'Ai;(>nt S^usso ainsi ■;iM'il i**8sori d'unc attestation ocrito sur le dit aote par un oitoyeJi Anuiivain preseiW sur les lieiix, M. .Malovansky, (ju'en ajipnsant sa signature, le capitaine AuiflaiH deva** '"am- inoiitioii des reclamations qu'il ]iiun'iait avoir a eli'ver; I'auti^ de quoi aueune i»»'(H;nu;ition ulteri(Miro de sa ])art m> serait aduiise. I'his tavd, sans douto, inalsjrro coi ;iv<>rtiss(!nient, ^fr. Sieword a adres- ' ■ lo protestation an (iouvi'riiour de \ladivMy*>f k dans laquello il a protendu i canots du schooner contis(] no, lances ii ia nier pour la clifsso des ot^irios. ,(' ^ trouvai(nit pas a uno distance de moiiis de ;{ niilles du rivacre. Mais, iiideporMlaiiiinoiit do la question de savoir si o'est a uiu' portee do 3 niilles soulenunit (pio doivent iMrc <5tendue>i les eauv territoriales. (•■■tte declaration du capitaine Ani^lais perd si valour : — 1 . l*ar le I'ail <|u'(dle est po>t<'>ricurp a la sii^nature par lui dc. Tacte de eonfiscatioii drosse dans les conditions enonooos phis liant; 2. Tarco que dans sa mirmie protestation lo Si(!ur Siowcrd soinble adiaotlro lui-nienu>, (iU(d(|U(>s liiyin^s plus loin, que les ca'fiots do son l)Atiinent avaient \m ('tr^ trouves par M. tirebnitzlvv n\ deca de la ]ii.rn(> i)oitanit~'re iles eaux H.iisses ; 3. Atteud\i (lue ^f. I'Jntendant des Iles du ('i»«mmaiMiear aiffirme catogori(|uemi'iil quo deux cbalou|)es du seluHmer einilistpu' s« trouvajietit a iwie dis<ja«iee d'une demi-iuilli' (lu rivagp, et iju'a bord du scboonor m trouvai#*nt deux ota»'i<>K no« *««»re «sventr6i' I'n ireneral, les alleviations du eapitaini" do " rAisMBMrti '' jiar (Stffiopt. k la posifn" qu'occupiiient qw iner le schooner i^t les canots soi\t as.-**/ ^►swifn*^- ■•' '**» ^ouft nVn moiiw (juc prouvecs. Uno consideration <pii d(''posi> en out ii -or de bord, lonu jusqu'a la. a ce (jn'il soinblo, reu^idiennneir i. ' • ( CO qui onlcvo la possibiliti' pour lui d'ctal)lir juriili(juenn»4*t turn rtirnvs ct sowtcii veille do la oonliscation et au matin de ce jour-la il se oporait en plein»' timr au cahier, trouve ofyaleinent ])armi ses papiors et qui .v4«>hle lui wvoiif servi, |tar int(!rvalles, dc brouilloii pour la tenue do son journal d(> \r,r(\, il ne saurait etiv rcconuu comme pic'-ce ayant un(' (lualite juridi(iuo obligatoiro. Votre Kxcellence .lyant bien voulu demanler d'etre ronsei^n^ sur la sandiim qu'avait pu recevoir id'.ericMU'emcnt Tacte de confiscation i)ron()nce par M. Grebiiilzky, jc crois devoir vous t'aire part dc co qui suit. JI. Grobnitzky s'etaient empn'sso de presenter un Rapport d<jtaille de raffiiiiv, avec los pi(Vos h I'appui, Ti il. le Gouvorneur-Gendral do I'Amour; celui-ci, m|iivs exanien, a rcconuu (pu; la condnite ten' ; par cot Agent avait etc tout a fail rcgnlii'iv, ot on vertu des pouvoirs qui lui appa- iiaioiit, a donn6 h, la mosirc do coniiscation la sanction do Tautorite administrative -upericure. Pour ce qui est de la vente -jti! par M. Grebiiit/.ky dos provisions dc bord, oiir;i;i! ■hiiii, pi 'a III Pi'tersbnui<i, 3)[?_lS(:iO,)] confisqiK- ])ai' initt! (It! I'llo 1 iiifonuMtious urnir s\ir cottc iso i\ cet (lizard a (^ondiiite de la coutiseation ar li! Ihit que IX tevritoi'ialos. nolaiiiiiujul !(! [. Gri;linit/.sky, •d. L'iiu|ii)ssi- ract^n! ivii'uliei' ; «'est I'at'ti" do m^ sa sis^iiatiirc W iwssort d'uiR' sur li's lieux, I* 'air*- inontinu tw rtV'lamatioM a a<li'p>*-'' ' 'I' 3li'i\dn I ok) fit'-. H' >. (Icpcnwlaiiiiiiciit ic (loivi'iit I'tvc lii'^lais |M'i'(l SI le oont'iscatiuu liiiblo adiiictlre iivaiont |)u t-tv' |itt'-g()l"iiiu<'iiii'iil I no demi-niilli' Ire rvonti'(V <v\ i'l la posidKi! 'I'li mollis jounml .lain, i),.l,( ... ' iju'-i la If *m:r. *lxvtif [\tn* sei'v . |';\r ie saurail ''Uv Liir In sauL'liuii Im. Gre'onit/.ky, |ll('' (Ic I'afTaiiv, c(>liii-fi, ajiW's Tail rc'i;iilii''n', Iconilscation la Isious dc l)oril, 19 trouvees par lui sur " I'Araunah," cct Agent expose dans son Rapport qu'il y a6t6 pour les motifs suivants. N'ayant pas a sa disposition la sommo n6cessaire pour exp6dier a Vladivostock I'l^iiipage do " I'Araunah," M. Grebnitzky a dfl voiidre aux cnch6res, en rcmplissant Ics tbrmalites vouUu's, les dites provisions ; avee uno partie dc Tarjient retire de cctte vcnti! il a payo lo transport de re([uipaf?o, et le rcstc a 6t6 romis u la Trdsorerie locale. TelloH sont, M. rAinbassadeur, d'aprilis les donnees fourn'''*H par raiitorite locale, Ics conditions dans li'S(inollcs s'est aecomplio eettc affaire. En ((.'rniinant je ino [)erm(!ttrai de rclevcr encore c(^ qui suit. Le Gouvernenient de Sa Majcstt'! Britannicjuo n'if^nori! ])as (pie les hiYtiments s(' livrant sans permission dans ees paraj^es a la chasse dcs otaries eausent a I'indiistrie loeale dcs dommajifes incaleulablcs. II a reeonnu lui-nu'!ni(! ruri^ence dps inesnnis destinces h niettrc; fin a un pareil (jtat de ehoses, ft il est a rei^rottcr quo l(>s n<!goeiations entanujos a Londros sur eettc mati^re n'aieni. pas abouti jusqu'il |iresciit. J'ln portant ce qui |)reeMe a votrc connaissancc, jo saisis, &e. (Si.ici"') GIERS. (Translation.) M. TAmbassadcur, Fmviqn Office, St. Pctersburf/h, Ainjuxl V (]()), IHHO. I llECEIVEJ) in due course your Excellency's note dated tins 13tb (25tli) ['i-lHtb (30th)] Deconiber, 1888, respecting the "alTair of the iiritisb schooner "Anmnah," eonliseated by tiie Russian authorities for beinj^ eni,'a<^ed in scalirii,' in the nciglibourhood of the Tsland of Mcdiioy. Your lilxccllciicy lijivini;' r('(|ucNi('(l lo be provided M'itb snt.'li information as the liupcrial authorities jnay bi> able to furnisii lipon this point, I have the honour to coinniunieate to you the facts whicii have been transmitted to mt; by the (iovcrnor- Gciicral of the Amour with r(>i;iU'd to the matter. Your Exc(.'lleiu!y will, I hope;, be convinced by them that the conduct of the Russian authorities was perfectly regular. First, as regiirds tiie ])ith of tin; wliole nwitter, viz., the confiscation of the Jb'itish >hii), this proceeding is entirely jiistilicd liy the fact that the " Araunali " was em.'-aged ill scaling within the limits of orr territorial waters, 'i'ho tile of ])aj)ers couDnnnicated liy I he (iovernor-Geiieral, and especially the I'eport of the odicer who proved that the vessel had been captured in the iwA, viz., M. Grebnitzky, the SuiHU'intendent of the Commander Islands, leave no doubt upon tiiis point. i3esi<h's, another document belonging to the sanu! file renders it impossible i'or the captain of tin? "Araunah" now to deny the regular nature of the seizure : I mean the deed of coutiseation, which was drawn up by M. Grebnitzky and countersigned, without any i)rot(!st, by Mr. Siewerd, though, as is ]mncd Ijy a statement written on the said deed by Mr. .Afalo- vausky, an American citizen, who was present at the time, he had been warned by the Russian Agent that on allixing his signature, he (the English captain) nuist mention [ any claims which he might have to raise, as no later claim would be recognized, if lis formality was not fultilled. It is tru(^ that Mr. Siewerd, in spit(,' of the Avarning, I siilisc([uently addressed a protest to tin; Governor of Vladivostock, in which he asserted iiu the canoes of the confiscated steamer, -which had put to sea after fur-seals, were [not vutliin a distance of 3 miles of the shore. Rut, apprt from the qu(;stion Avhether territorial waters only ext(>nd to a distance of o miles, the linglish captain's declaration lis valueless for t!ie following reasons : — 1. Because it is subsequent to the signature by him of the act of confiscation drawn up under the conditions slated above. ■-'. Because" in this same protest ^Ir. SicM erd himself seems to admit, a few lines lliu't^w^j' on, that the canoes Tuay hav(! been within the Customs line of the Russian [watrrx 3. iSec{»use the Superintendent of the C ;nunander Islands alTirms categorically that two boats of the schooner were at a distance of iialf-a-mile from the shore, and that two Hfals not yet diseml)owelled were found on board the schooner. (ienerally, the statenunits of the cajjtain of the " Araunah " as to the j^iosition on tlie SI a oeeupied by the schooner and the canoes are very vague and very far from being imivcd. Besides, an argument against him is that the log-book, which seems till then to have been regularly kept, stops at the date of the 5th June, which makes it impossible for the captain to establish his assertions judicially, and prove that on the I eve of the confiscation, and oji the morning of the day, he believed himself to be on '^fi^^-A \.'. V. 1 , 20 HMi I the high sea. As for his diai'v, which was also among liis papers, and seems to luivc been occasionally used by him for rough copies of the entries in the log-book, tluit cannot be admitted as a document having any obligatory judicial weight. The following is in answer to your Excellency's request to bo informed wiiat sanction the deed of confiscation pronounced by M. Grebnitzky subscqucntlv received. 11. Grebnitzky lost no time in presenting a full Ileport of the matter, ivith documentary evidence in support, to the Governor-General of the Amour ; and llio latter, after examination, declared the Agent's behaviour to have been absohitclv regular, and, in virtue of his powers, gave to the deed of confiscation the sanetiou of the superior administrative authority. For the sale by M. Grebnitzky of the provisions which he foiuid on board the " Araunab," the Agent gives in bis Report the following reasons : — As he had not at his disposal the sum necessary for sending the ere^ ol' tlio " Araiuiah " to Vladivostoek, iN[. Grebnitzky had to sell tho said provisions by auction, after going through the proper formalities. With jiart of the proeceds he, paid the jonrney of the crew ; th<> remainder Avas paid into the local Treasury. Such, II. I'Ambassadeur, according to the statements of the local authorities, arc the conditions under which the affair took place. I take the liberty, in eoneliision, ol' calling attention to tiie following point: — The Government of Her Britaiu\ie Majesty are well aware of the incalcnlablp damage done to local industry by vessels engaging without permission in Inr-scalinn,' in these wjrters. They have themselves recognized the lU'gent need for measures to put an end lO such a state of thing.s, and it is to be regretted that the negotiations conunenc(,'d witli regard to this matter in London have till now remained wit lumt result. Having thus brought these facts to your notice, I take, &e. (Signed) Gi !• i{S. No. 12. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R. Morier, Sir, Foreign Office, October 3, 1889. I DI^LY received your Excellency's despatch of the 2r)th August, containing' the reply of the Russian Govrrnmcnt to the note which you had addressed to them on tlio 30th December last respecting the case of the schooner "Araunah," which Mas con- ficsated in July 1888 by 11. Grel)nitzky, the " Superintendent of tlie Comnindoro Islands," for unlawful seal-bunting in the ]n'oximity of Copper Island. Rcfore ircrllajesty's (iovoninient can form any decided opinion as to llieii' I'liiniv action in llic case, it is necessary that they should be furnished witJi fuller inl'oinKiiiim than they now possess on the following points : — 1. As to the legal position and authority of II. Grchnit/ky. It appears that ho described liimself in the vertificte dated the lOth June (1st .lidy, 1888), as ' Su]ii>rin- tendent of the Commodore Islands," acting "in accordance with the order of the Governor- (leneml, and tlie Notice issued by the Impeiial Russian Governm(>nt ai,'aiiist illegal hunting and lisbini; with the limits of Russian territories in tlie I'aeilic Ocean," and in 11. do Giers' note, inclosed in your •.le'patch under reply, the "Araunah" is spoken of as " confisque par les autorites Rnsses." I slio\dd lie glad to know tiic exact position of this ollieial, and under what authority ho acted throughout in the matter. 2. "What were the grounds and authority upon which the seizure of the " Arannaii" was made by the " Alexander II " ? This latter vessel is described as a steamer helon;:- ing to tho Alaska Commercial Company of San Eraiicisco. She is stated to liavc been flying tli(! Russian merchant ensign at the peak, ard a green dag with white cross at the main. I should be glad to know whether thisi latter (lag, which is now superseded by a blue one, had ceased to 1)e the Russian Imperial Customs (la;,' at tlic time the seiziu-e was Cirectcd, viz., July 1, 1888, and what was tho actual date nii which the change was made. ',]. I sliould also be glad to be fiu'nished with a cojty of the Rus,>^'iau Law, il' such exists, conferring upon the Governor-General of Amour tho power of pronouncin!,' a .Dieree of Confiscation upon vessels seized on similar grounds to the "Araunah," 1 on 1)0!U'(1 tlie he incalculal)lp of tlie parties iim Law, il' such 21 H-itliout the intervention ol' any legal Tribunal, oi regular hearing implicated. And, linally, I should wish to see a translation o£ any fishing or hunting Laws ir Customs Regulations which the Russian Government may inform you are applicable to the case. I have to request your Exeellency to endeavour to obtain the information and locuments mentioned above, together with any further explanations Avhieh you may think useful, with a view to obtaining an opinion from the L'xw Officers of the Crown on the legal aspect of the case. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 13. The Marquis of Salkbury to Sir R. Morier. sir, Foreign Office, February 14, 1890. I SHOULD be glad to know whether your Excellency has been able to obtain tiio further information in connection with tlic case of the' " Araunah " asked for in my despatch of the 3rd October last. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 14. i?iV R. Morier to the Marijuis of Salisbury. — {Received February 24.) Jly Lord, St. Pelersburgh, February 19, 1890. WITH reference to your Ijordship's despatch of the 14tli instant, I have the honour to state that I have as yet failed to obtain from the Russian Foreign OHice the additional information your Lordship aski; for respecting the ease of the "Araunah." I wroti; a note verbule on the subject upon receipt of your Lordship's despatch of the lltli December, 1888, and after an interval I left a Memorandum on the subject with M. de Giers. I shall now address a formal note on the subject, with, I hope, better results. I have, &c. (Signed) R. B. D. MORIER. No. 15. Sir R. Morier to the Mantis of Salisbury. — {Received March 24.) My Lord, St. Petersburgh, March IL, 1890. WITH reference to previous correspondeQce, I have now the honour to transmit t(i your Lordship herewith copies of t.lie note verbale which I addressed to M. de Giers on the 21st October last, embodying tlie queries respecting the "Araunah " contained in your Lordship's despatch of the .'Ird October last, and of a note from M. de Ci< lo, dated the 16th instant, in which answers to these queries are furnished. V;)ur Loi.lship will perceive that query No. 3 of my iiote verbale, in which I ask to be liu.ished with the text of the Russian Law conferring upon the Governor-General of the A.nour the power of pronouncing a Decree of Confiscation upon vessels seized on similar !j;round8 to the "Araunah," apparently without the intervention of any Court of Law, is left unanswered, and that there is L>nly the statement of fact that '• tu' tc? les causes resultant de Tapplication des reglements ei-dessus mentiounes sonl du icssort du Gouverneur-General de I'Amour qui eu decide en derniiire instance." It can be safely asserted that the investiture of the Governor-General with these pivrogatives rests upon no law properly speaking, but is the result of administrative arrangements emanating directly from ttie Sovereign in the exorcise of his executive poAver. I hare, &c. (Signed) R. B. D. MORIEE. iff ir li-U ' ' i ' ■' ;■;'■ i \ p \ : ■ ' . < - *'■-!: ^ ■ ■ 1 ! 1 : *: (f |i -I I j ti I « 22 Inolosure 1 in No. 15. iVo/e Verhale. HER Uritiiiinic JMajcsty's Ambassador has the honour to present his compliments to his Excellency the Imperial Minister for Foreign Affairs, and to inform him tliat he has received a despatch from Her Majesty's Secretary of State respectiii},' tlio cou. fiscation of tlie schooner " Araunah," in which the Marquis of Salisbury states tlmt Her Majesty's Government do not feel able to appreciate the considerations put I'orwiinl by the Imperial Government in their note of tlio 4th (IGth) August last witiiout fuller information than they at present possess on the following points : — 1. "What is the exact position of M, Grehnitaky, described as " Suiierintendent of Commander Islands," and under what authority he acted throughout in the matter? 2. AVliat were the grounds and authority upon which the seizure of tlie "Araunah" was made I)y tlu^ "Alexander II"? This latter vessel is described as a sfeamcr belonging to the Alaska Commercial Company of San Francisco. She is stated to have been flying the Russian merchant ensign at the jjcak, and a green flag witli a white cross at the main. Lord Salisbury would be glad to know Avhether this latlor flag, -which is said to be now superseded by a blue one, had ceased to be the Russian Imperial Customs flag at the time the seizure was effected, viz., the 1st July, 1888, and w hat was the actual date on which the change was made ? 3. Lord Salisbury would also be glad to be furnished with the text of the Russian Law conferring upon the Governor-General of the Amour the power of pronouncing a decree of conflseation upon vessels seized on similar grounds to the " Araunah," without apparently tho intervention of any Court of Law, or regular hearing of the jarties implicated. H<u' Britannic Majesty's Ambassador has accordingly the honour to request his Excellency the Minister of Foreign Affairs to be good enough to enable him to fuinish Her Majesty's Government with the information they desire, und Sir Robert llorier seizes the ojiportunity to renew to M. de Giers the assurance, &c. British Embasst/,^ St. Petersburgh, October 9 (21), 1889. Inclosure 2 in No. 15. M. de Giers to Sir R. Morier. AI. rAmbassadour, Saint-Pe'tersbourg, le 3 (15) Mars, 1800. VOTllE Excellence a bien voulu me remettre a la date du 9 (21) Octohre dernier une note verhale dont il resulte que Ic Gouvernement de Sa Majoste la Reinc est desireux d'obtcnir des informations supplementaires au sujet de la saisie dc la goelette " Araunah." Les points sur lesquels le Gouvernement do la Heine ticudmit .a etrc renseigne etant spdcifids dans la note en question, je me fais un devoir dc vous communiquer c(> qui suit : — 1. ;M. Grebnitzky, en sa qualite d'intendiuit des lies du Commandeur, est eliar;,v de radministrntion dc ce territoiro, et il relive directement du Gouverneur ^lilitaiiv dc la Province Maritime. C'est a lui aussi qu'incombe le devoir de veiller a I'applica- tion des Reglemonts qui interdisent aux -uavires etrangers, qui ne seraient pas munis d'unc autorisation sj)eciaie emanee du Gouverneur-Gencral dc I'Amour, d'exerccr Ic commerce, la chasse, ainsi quo la p^*hf dans les eaux tcrritoriales des lies du Commandeur. 2. A defaut de navir«»s de guerre, I'autoritd locale a le droit d'employer, pour laire respecter les Rc'^glemcnts ci-dessus mentionnes, des navires marchands, qui, dans ces cas, ont h leur bord une garde militaire, et sont munis d'instructions sp^ciales. Lc bateau a vapeur " Alexandre II," u bord duquel so trouvait M. Grebnitzky au monicut de la saisie dc "I'Araunah," etait justement charge a cette epoque de la surveillanoe dans les eaux des lies du Commandeur. 3. Lc pavilion Douauier Russe n'a pas et6 change ; et i. Toutes les cuises resultant de I'ajjplication des Rt^gleracnts ci-dessus mcntionuiis sont du ressort du Gouverneur-General de I'Amour, qui en decide en dernii^re instance. Conformement h cet Article les pieces relatives a la saisie do " TAmunah " ont M transraises a M. 1' Aide-de-camp Gendral Baron Korf, qui, apr(>8 avoir examine les proc^-verbaux dressers par M. Grebnitzky, ainsi que lc. requfetes du capitaine du navire on question, a reconnu que la saisio avait ^(t6 oper<5e dans Ics conditions pr^vues par Ics ll6glenients, et a prononce la confiseatiou de " I'Amunah." Enftn, pour satisfairc au ddsir expos6 dans la note A'crbale de voire Excellence du 9 (21 ) Octobrc dernier, je me fais un devoir de vous transraettre ci-apr6s uiie traduction An;?l!usc du R^glement relatif h la prohibition du commerce, de la chasse, et de la ])('cli(^ dans Ics eaux tcu'ritorialcs Russes de I'Ocdan Paciflque. Dans le but de pr6venir (Ips infractions h ce ll^glement Ic Gouvernement Imperial a eu soin de lo faire pulilicr en 1882, par I'intermediaire de ses Agents Consulaires, k San Praucisco, ainsi que dans les ports du Japon ouverts au commerce 6trangcr. Veuillez, &c. (Translation.) (Signe) GIERS. 51. r iibassadeur, St. Petersburgh, March 3 (15), 1890. YOUll Excellency was pleased to communicate to me on the Otli (2lst) October last a note verlittle stating that Iler Majesty's Government is desirous of obtaining further information on tiie subject of the seizure of the schooner " Araunah." As llic points on which Iler Majesty's Government wish to be furnished witli information are specified in the note in question, I have the honour to communicate to you the following : — 1. M. Grebnitzky, in his quality of Superintendent r*" the Commander Islands, is ilmrgod with the administration of that territory, and lu- is directly responsible to the Military Governor of the Maritime Province. It is also his duty to see to tlic applica- tion (if the Ilegulations which prohibit foreign ships, without a special authorization from the Governor-General of the Amour, from trading and hunting, as well as fishing, in tlie territorial waters of the Commander Islands. 2. In default of ships of Avar, the local authority has the right of employing, to enforce the above-mentioned Regulations, merchant-ships, which, then, have on board a military guard, and are furnished witli special instructions. The steamer " Alexan- der n," on board which M. Grebnitzky was at the moment of the seizure of the "Araunah," was so charged at this time with the police of the waters of the Com- mander Islands. !}. The Russian Customs flag has not been changed. 4. All tlic legal cises arising out of the application of the Regulations above mentioned are within ihc jurisdiction of the Governor-General of the Amour, who decides on them in the last instance. Comformably to this Article, the documents relating to the seizure of the "Araunah" Avere sent to Aide-de-camp General Baron Korf, Avho, after having examined the proces-verbaux draAvu up by M. Grebnitzky, as well as the demand of the captain of the vessel in question, decided that the seizure had been made under the eonditions proA'ided for by the Regulations, and pronounced the coniiscatijn of the "Araimah." Pinally, to satisfy the desire expressed in the note verbale of your Excellency of the 'Ml (21st) October last, I liaA'c the honour to transmit to you an English translation of tlie Regulation relative to the prohibition of trading, hunting, and fishing in the territorial waters of Russia in the Pacific Ocean. With the object of preventing infractiony of this Regulation, the Imperial Government took care to publish it, in 1882, through their Consular Agents in San Francisco, as Avell as in the Japanese ports open to foreign commerce. Accept, iS:c. (Signed) GIERS. Inclosure 3 in No. 15. Notice. THE Russian Imperial Government hereby publishes for general knowledge the following : — 1. Without a special permit or licence from the Governor-General of Eastern Silieria. foreign vessels are not alloAved to carry on trading, hunting, fishing, &c., on the Russian coast or islands in the Okhotsk and Behring's Seas, or on the north-east coast of Asia, or Avithin their sea b:->undary-line. t316l E ':1^ t* 7^ > /i 1 il : . i [ |-> ' . 1 :■ ■ ■ ' It ■ 1 I f f-^- i 1 ,: 1 >■ h-i f I;] 24 2. For such permit or licences foreign vessels should apply at Vladivostoek exclusively. 3. In the port of Petropaulovski, though hcing the only port of ciitrv in Kamtchaikn, such permits or licences shall not be issued. 4. So j.jrmits or licences whatever shall he issued for hunting, fishing, or traditi" at or on the Commodore and Rohhen Islands. 6. Foreign vessels found trading, fishing, hunting, &c., in Russian waters witliout a licence or permit from the Governor-General, and a. so those possessing a licence or permit who should infringe in the existing hye-laws on hunting, shall he confiscated, both vessels and cargoes, for the benefit of the Government. This enactment shall be enforced henceforth, commencing with a.d. 1882. 6. The enforcement of tlie above Avill be intrusted to Russian men-of-war, and also to Russian merchant-vessels, who for that purpose will carry military detachments and provided with proper instructions. No. 16. The Marquis of Salisbury to Mr. Gosling. Sir, Foreign Office, May 9, 1890. I HAVE carefully considered, in communication M'ith Her Majesty's Sceretury of State for the Colonies, Sir Robert Morier's despatch of the 19th March last, and the note of M. de Giers inclosed therein, furnisliing further information in regard to the sei/.ure and confiscation of the Rritish schooner " Araunah," when engaged in seal-himtinf? in the neiglibourhood of Copper Island, a possession of the Russian Empire in the neighbourhood of Behring's Sea. The whole of the correspondence which has passed in regard to this case has boeu submitted to the Law Ofiicers of the Crown for their opinion upon the points of law- involved. It would appear from M. de Giers' note of the 3rd (15th) March that the Government of the Province of Amour, in which the Commander Islands (Cop])ei' Island forming one of that group) are included, is a purely military one, and tiiat, subject to tlie su])crvision of the Governor-in-chicf, the Intendant of the islands is the sole judicial as well as executive oiRcer. ller INlajcsty's Government are advised that a private vessel, with a duly authorized officer on board, and flying a proper flag, and under special instructions, may lawfully make a seizure such as the seizure made in this case by M. Grebnitzky. Th y are further advised that there is nothing inconsistent with international law in the establishment by the Russian Government of such Tribunals as those indicated by the procedure in the case of the " Araunah." So far, therefore, as the mcde of proceeding is concerned, there appears to be no sufficient ground on wliich a protest or claim for compensation could be based. With regard to the grounds on which confiscation was decreed, it is to ho remembered that the master of the " Araunah " does not deny the statement of M. Grebnitzky that he signed the act of confiscation, which involved an admission of the alleged offence, and this without any intimation that he intended to jjrotest against the decision, although he was duly warned that he ought then to submit any protest which he intended to make. The evidence as to the actual position of the " Araunah " and her canoes at the time of the seizure is veiy conflicting. The master of the vessel says in his letter of the 29th October, 1888, that his ship was 8 miles off the southern ext 'emity of Co])]iei' Island, but in his earlier telegram of the 9th August, 1888, he speaks of being within G miles of the southern extremity of the island. The cajitain of tlie "Alexander II" says that the "Araunah" was within 3 miles of the island, while the second officer of the first-mentioned vessel puts the distance at from 5 to 7 miles. The canoes M'ere out to the south and west of the vessel, that is to say, between it and the island, one of them, at least, at a distance of not more than 3 miles from it, and in M. do Giers' note of the 4th August, 1889, it is stated that M. Grebnitzky categorically affirms that two of the canoes were within half-a-milc of the shore. Her Majesty's Government are of opinion that, even if the " Araunali " at the 86 time of the soizuic was herself outside the 3-milo territorial limit, the fact tliat she wiis by means of hor hoats carryini; on fishing witiiin Russian waters without the prescrihed licence warranted her seizure and confiscation according to the provisions of tiie municipal law regulating the use of tliose waters. Tiiey do not, therefore, as at present advised, propose to addrcs> any further representation to the Russian Government in regard to this case. I am, &c. (Signed) 8AL1SBTIRY. : {■ V^-' * ! I, •■.{; 1 IM: r :l i;!t 1:1 :i !, i ■■■', K tI i| f;;:i 8 !, 55?. S o- S r SE. i II [C— ( '^*'rHl^*?'5Z^"*,T'[:Ii"_'^_^'-"^''!!*I'^ UNITED STATES. No. 1 (1892). TELEGRAPHIC CORRESPONDENCE BMraomfo SEAL FISHING IN BEHRING'S SEA. DTT&ING THB SEASON OP 1892. Presented to both Houset of Parliament by Command of Her Majesty. March 1892. 1 LONDON: J':iINTED FOR HER MAJESTY'S STATIONERY OFFICE BY HARRISON AND SONS, ST. MARTIN'S LANE, rUNnU IN OKDINABT TO BI> MAJMTT. And to be porchiMd, either directly or Ihroofih any BookBailer, I'lom ■R1«S A 10 SPOTTISWOODE, East Hasdiho SraiiT, Fti«T SraitT, B.C., and 32, ABIN600!I STBIEKT, WUTMINilTSB, S.W.; OB JOHN MENZIE8 Ik Co., 12, Hakovbb Stbikf, Euinbdbgu, and 80, W»T Nils Stbbbt, Glasgow j ob HODGES, FIGGIS. & Co., 104. Gbafton Btbbit, Dublin. [0.— 6683.] Frt«e 2d. M IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) // ^>. «> \ 1.0 IM ■ 2.5 ■■■ Ui 1^ ^ 144 ■ 2.2 1.1 i.-^ia 1.8 1^ '-^r ^ 6" ► Hiotographic Sdences Corporation 1'. ^kST MAIN STMET WEBSTW.N.Y. MSSO (716)«72-4S03 ^* '^*1' "^"^ s JJIU,.- •J , ■ ' , ' -J -J, I TABLE OF CONTENTS. No. I 2 10 11 13 13 14 \5 16 17 Kanip. Sir J. Pauncefote .<, To Sir J. Pauncefote , Sir J. Pauncefote 7. 'o Sir J. Pauncefote. . Lord Stanley of Pretton to LortI Knutsfonl Sir 3. Pauncefote Telegraphic Telegraphic Telejtraphic Telegrnphic Tel^graptiic r«U'jra|iiiic TcleKrapliic Telegraphic Date. Feb. C, 1892 16, 17. 18, Subject. Past To Sir J. Pauncefote., Sir .F. Pauncefote To Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir V:. H.-.(len-Powell. To Sir J. Pauncefote. Lord knutsford to Lord Stanley of Preston Sir J. Pauncefote Teli".,'rapliic 27, 23, 25. 2G, 26, 18 To Sir J. Pauncefoti'.. 19 Felegrapliic Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic Tolegrapliic Telcgrapliic Telegraphic Telegra|>hic Telegraphic Telegraphic 26. Mar. 8, 9, •J, 13, 18, 18, 23, 26, 26, Modut Vivendi pressed for by Mr. Blaine Cannot express opinion as to nwdua vivendi until informed of its provision^. Prohibition of sealing does not seem necessary Mr. Dlaine urges consideration of rnodun vivtndi by Joint Commission. Can neces- sary authority be given ? Joint Oommissiun may runsider modut virmdi, but Her Majesty's Government must reserve right of action Canadian (iovernmeut have no information showing necessity of modiia vietndi. If Her Majesty's Government have such infor- mation, Canada would not object to zone of 2.1 miles if accompanied by restrictions as to scaling on land Communication made to Mr. Blaine in tense of No. 2. Substance of his reply, pressing for modut Vivendi . . , . Sends verbatim paragraph from Mr. Hlaine's note referred to in above .. ,, Opinion of British Commissioners as to modus vii'endi. No serious risk of depletion this year, but limited temporary measure recom- mended Her- Majesty's (lovernnieiit have no informa- tion to show necessity of modus vivendi two years running. Compromise suggested by Behring's Sea Commissioners in No. 8 may be proposed . . Mr. Blaine learns that forty-six sealers have cleared for Behring's Sea lieply of United States' Government to pro- posal in No. 9. Urges necessity for mndna vivendi, in order to preserve value of property pending arbitration .. . . , . To repent above ti) Canada Expresses opinion tliat renewal uf modus vivendi, tliougli not necessary, would be beneficial . . To repeat above to Canada Answers No. 1 1 . Itencwal of modun vivendi may give ground of complaint by British sealers if .\ rbitrators decide in their favour. Suggests tliat sealing should be permitted to vessels giving security for any damages awarded by .■\rbitralors.. To direct port authorities on Pacific to warn owners of vessels who have cleared or are dealing for Behring's Sea that they do so at their own risk .. .. .. Communication made to United States' Qovern- ment in sense of No. 15. Iteply received, stating that renewal uf modus vivendi is the least that ran be accepted, and that United Stales' Government must maintain their rights Two alternative proposals by Her Majestv's Government as to the conditions on which sealing might be prohibited this season Proposed form of rclerenec to Arbitrators of niieation of damages , . flj> t.y.- -■"•>«1-" 1 tJi,,-' . . ua.kr-« - ■■'■■ ■•' *' 10 II ram Mr. IMoine's v-six sealori Imve .. .. .rt»fc f . .:< . » V Telegraphic Correspondence respectinijf Seal Fishing m Behriiig's Sea during the Season of 1892. • • • No. 1. ... V Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salubury. — {Received February 8.) (Telegraphic.) Wftshington, February 8, 1892. I FORWARDED, by hag, on the 6th instant, for your Lordsliip's approval, a draft Behring's Sea Arhitnition Convention which has been proposed hy Mr. Blauie. The Joint Commission is emhodiod in it, and Mr. Blaine insists that the prowedings of tlie Joint Commissioners shall he informal until it is signed. After much delay, they nieet to-day for the first time. A modus vivendi during the next fishery season is pressed for hy Mr. Blaine, and he hopes that Her Majesty's Government will he prepared to put into force any Regulations which may be recommended by the Joint Commission for immediate application. No. 2. , The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, February 16, 1892. THE dmfl Convention, inclosed in your despatch of the 5th instant, for refcmng to arbitration the questions at issue between Htn- Majesty's Government and that of the United States in connection with the seal fisheries in Bc^hring's Sea, has been lotoired to th(( Law Oilicers of the Crown, who have be«>n asked to furnish a Report on its terms at their earliest c(mvenience. Her Majesty's Govcn-nment cannot expn'ss an oi)iniou upon Mr. Blaine's ])roposal lor a fresh modus vivendi during the present year until they are further informed as to what the jjrovisions of ihe modus vivendi are to hi*. It does not seem to be at all necessary for the preservation of the fur-seal species that sealing should be entirely prohibited. ; . . ,, • . ' No. 3. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received February 18.) (Telegraphic.) ' Washington., February 17, 1892. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of the 16th instant, Mr. Bhino presses that thc^ question of the modus vivendi should be considered and reported on by the Joint Commission. I have infonned him that, in my opinion, it has no power to do so under its present mandate. Will your Lordship inform me whether you are willing that the necessary authority sliall be given to tlic Commission, provided that 110 obligations are imposed up n either Government by its report ? y-i [298] B 2 No. 4. The Marquis of Salithury to Sir J, Pauncefote, (Teleg»pliio.) Foreign Office, February 18, 1892. H£K Majesty's Government have bad under their consideration Mr. Blaine's proposal, reported in your telegram of yesterday, that the Joint Commission should examine and report on the question of arranging a fresh modus vivendi during the next seol-fishine season in Behring's Sea. They nave no objection to its being considered by the Commission whether, in case the decision of the Arbitrators is not obtained before June on the points to hp submitted to them, any modus vivendi will be necessary, and, in that case, what should be its provisions. Her Majesty's Government must, however, reserve absolutely their right of action in respect to any recommendations that may bo made by the Commissioners. In the present state of I'arliainentai*y business, it seems unlikely that it would be possible to obtain any fresh powers from Parliament. "The Seal Fishery (Behrinpf's Sea) Act, 1891," is still in force, but it only giivca power to prohibit sealing in Behring's Sea by Order in Council within limits and for a period to Ix,' specified in the Order itself. You should communicate to the Canadian Grovernment the substance of your telegi-am of the 17th instant, and of my reply. No. 5. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford,* — {Received February 24.) (Telegraphic.) Ottawa, February 23, 1892. WITH r(?ference to your telegram of the 16tli instant respecting the modus vivendi in Behring's Sea, my Ministers i\n not possess any information to show that a modtu vivendi is m»cessary, or that it can be reasonably demanded. If, however, such information has reached Her Majesty's Government, the Government of the Dominion would not oppose such a modus vivendi pi-ovided that it were contined to a zone of mo(l<'rate limits, say, 2j miles, around the seal islands, and provided that it is accompanied by striiitrent restrictions against the killing of seals on land, with better supervision than during the modus vivendi of last year. Any arrangement of a more extended character would involve compensation to the sealing-vessels, and for this, of course, Canada could not be expected to make provision from the funds of the Dominion. No. 6. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received February 25.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, February 25, 1892. BEHRING'S SEA modus vivendi. With reference to your Lordship's telegram of the 16th instant, I have informed Mr. Blaine that your Lordship <!ould not give an opinion until you learned what modus vivendi was proposed. Following is the substance of a note which I have received in reply : — The arbitration cannot i)ossibly be concluded within the period of time which was contemplated originally. The delays which hav(! occurred have been much more hj- Great Britain than by the United States. The President suggests that the modus should be similar in terms to tliat of lost j year, but that it should be more fully executed. Move efficient measures on the part of Her Majesty's Government will bo practicable thi§ year owing to the earlier date. More seals than ever were taken last year, the; departure of the sealing'Vessels having j taken pkce previous to the agreement as to the modus vivendi. The prevention of sealing in the North Pacific Ocean would be the most effective measure for Her Majesty's Government to adopt. The large number of sealers preparing to go fortli from British Columbia would have to receive notice of this. The number of sealers is Repeated to Sir J. Ptuncefoto. <-i' .iXji^^tii^ ruary 18, 1892. on Mr. Blaine's )»nmis8ion should t during the next Rsion whether, in the points to hp civse, what should pir right of action ssioners. Y that it would bo but it only gives thin limits and for lubstance of your •uary 24.) •bruary 23, 1892. <? the modus vivendi show that a modus If, hoAvever, such it of the Dominion lined to a zone of rovided that it is n land, with hettn arrans<^ment of a ug-vessels, and for m tlie funds of the iruary 25.) 'ebruary 26, 1892. it, I have informed you learned what reply :— of time which was ecu much more by ■ms to tliat of last ensures on the part | to the earlier date. iling-vessels having I The prevention o( e measure for Her eparing to go forth lumber of sealers is 8 reported to bi? larger than ever, and without regulations then* will he an immense destruction of iemales heavy with young. Mr. Blaine urgently requests mo to sund the contents of the note to your Lordship by telegraph. I have not ycrt mentioned the question of authoriziii!? the Joint Com- mission to report on the modus vivendi on the conditions mentioned in your Jjordship's telegram of the 18tli instant. No. Sir J. Pauncefole to the Marquis of Salisbury. —{Received February 26.) Washington, February 26, 1892. (Telegraphic.) MY telegram of yesterday. Mr. Blaine specially desires mo tc telegraph to your Lordshi]) verbatim the following jiivnigrapli contained in his note of the 24th instant resi)ecting the modus vivendi : — " Holding an arbitration in regard to the rightful mode of taking seals, while tiieir destruction goes forward, would be as if, while an arbitration to the title to timher-land were in progress, one party were to cut and remove all the trees.'' 1I(; attaches much importance to this illustration. No. 8. Sir J, Pauneefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received February 27.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, February 26, 1892. WITII reference to your Lordship's telegram of the 26th instant, the opinion of tiie British Behring's Sea Commissionei-s as to a modus vivendi may be convenient to your Lordship at this juncture. They report as follows : — "Wcdo not apprehend any danger of s(U"ious further d(!pletion of the fur-seals resorting to the Pribyloff Islands, as the result of hunting this year, unless excessive killing be permitted on the breeding islands. As a judicious temporary measure of precaution, however, for the season, and looking to permanent regulations for the iisliery as a whole being established in time for the season of 189.3, we would recona- raend the pi-obibiMon of all killing at sea during this season, within a zone extending to, say, not more than 30 nautioil miles around the Pribylotf Islands, such prohibition iH'ing conditional on the restriction to a number not to exce(>d 30,000 as a maximum of the seals killed for any purpose on the islands." I believe that the necessity for the total cessation of pelagic sealing will be insisted on by the American Commissioners, if the question be referred to the Joint Commission ; but I submit that it is not necessary for us to go beyond the opinion of our own experts, pending arbitration. No. 0. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir ./. Pauneefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, February 27, 1892. UEE Majesty's Government have had under their consideration your telegrams of the 25th and 26th instant, dealing with the question of the modus vivendi proposed by Ml'. Blaine for the approaching seal-hunting season. They cannot admit in any degree the coiTcctness of Mr. Blaine's statement, that there have been greater delays on the part of this country in the negotiations for settling the Behring's Sea difficulty than there have been on that of the United States. The consent of Her Majesty's Government was given last year to a modus vivendi solely on the ground that the preservation of the seal species in those waters was supposed to be endangered unless some interval were given during whicli there would be a cessation of hunting both on land and sea. No information has reached Her Majesty's Government to lead thom to suppose that so drastic a measure is requisite for two successive seasons. {■ l! i i I I ■•■ I I k 1 1 i Indoetl, thoy are informed by the British membew of the Joint Commission now sittiufj; ut Washington thai there is no dang(;r, so far as the sea fisliery is conccriud, of any serious diminution of the numbers of the fur-seal speeies as a consequence of hunting them during tiie approaehing season. You are, however, authorized to offer to the Govcrnn"Mit of the United States (ho compromise suggested l)y the British Commissioners, and reported in your tolci^rani of the 26tli instant, viz., that during the present year the killing of seals ;i| sea should be prohibited within a given radius not exceeding 30 nautical milos rouiul tlie Pribyloff Islands, on condition that the number of seals to be killed for any puipose on the islands shall be restricted to a definite amount, not exceeding 30,000 at the utmost. A speedy decision is necessary, aa we are informed that the sealing-vcssels are already leaving port. Mr. Blaine's comparison of the present situation to a question of ownership of timber-land does not appear to me to be applicable. Tlie case resembles ratlicr an arbitration on the title to a meadow. While the arbitration is pending the party in actual possession cuts the grass, and rightly so, inasmuch as next year the grass will be reproduced. This will equally be the case ^vith the s' als. No. 10. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received February 27.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, February 20, lsi)2. I AM rcquesti'd by Mr. Blaine to infobn your Lordship that he has received the following lleport from the United States' Consul at Victoria ; — " Forty-six sealmg- vessels cleared to date. Six or seven more to go. At the same date last year only thirtv-one cleared." No. 11. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Received March 9.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, March 8, 1892. THE Acting Secretary of St<ite lias to-day delivered to me on belialf of Mr. Blaine (who is unwell) a note on the subject of the renewal of the modus vivendi, with a request from the President that T should telegraph it to your Lordshi]). I accordingly send a full summary : — [T/te text having since been recnivcd, is given in full.] Sir, Department of Slate, Washington. March 8, 1892, I AM directed by the President to say, in response to your two notes of the 29th February and 7tli March, that he notices witli the dee])est regret the indisposition of Her Majesty's Government to agree upon an effective modus for the i)reservation of the seals in the Behring's Sea pending the settlement of the respective rights of timt Government and of the Government of the United States in these waters and in the fur- seal fisheries therein. Tile United States claims an exclusive right to take seals in a portion of tlie Behring's Sea, while Her Majesty's Government claims a common rij^lii lo pursue and take the seals in those waters outside a ;Vniile limit. This serious and protruded controversy, it lias now been happily agreed, shall be submitted to the determination of a Tribunal of Arbitration, and the Treaty only awaits the action of the American Senate. The judgment of the Arbitration Tribunal cannot, however, be reached and stated in time to control the conduct of the respective Governments and of their citizens durini,' the scaling season of 1892 ; and the urgent question now is. What does good faith, to say nothing of international comity, require of the parties to the arbitration ? If the contention of this Government is sustained by the Arbitrators, then any killing of seals by the Canadian sealers during this season in these waters is an injury to this Govern- ment in its jurisdiction and property. The injury is not measured by the skins taken, but affects the permanent value of our property. Was it ever heard before that one party to such a controversy, whether a nation or Commission uovt py is conceriu'd, of a consequciK'c of Unit«'(l Stat.'s the in your tolci,'rani ig ol" seals ;il sea al mih's round tlic i for any jnuposc ding 30,000 ut the the soaling-vcssels )n of ownership of esembles rather an uling the party in year the grass will ruary 27.) ibrunry 20, 1^92. le has received the Forty-six sealing- date last year only ^arch 9.) i, March 8, 185)2. 'iialf of Mr. Blaine ius vivendi, with a li]!. I accordingly , March 8, 1892. two notes of the the indisposition ot preservation of the ive rights of that ters and in the fur- a portion of the ^hi lo pursue and us and protracted le determination of American Senate. led and stated in iieir citizens durin}; good faith, to say bitration ? If the my killing of seals iry to this Goveni- ly the skins taken, fhetlier a nation or in individual, c«)uhl ajjprojiriate the wiiole or any jwrt of the income and jirofits, much less the body of the contested jtroiiorty. |)cnding the litigation, without accountability ? Ugoally a Court of Chancery would place a receiver or trustee in charge, and hold the income of the property for the benefit of the prevailing party. You say that Lord I Silishury, rejecting the illustration used by Mr. Blaine, "suggests that the case is more Hke one of arbitration respecting title to a meadow. While the arbitration is going on jfeoutthe grass; and quite rigjitly. for the grass will be re])roduced next year, and so I will the seals."" He can hardly mean by this illustration that, being in contenti(m with a neig1d)our I regarding the title to a meadow, he could by any jtrecedent in the Equity Courts or by any standard of conunon honesty be justified in |»ocketing the whole or any part of the gains of a harvest without accountability to the adverse claimant whose exclusive title vas afterwards established. It is no answer for the trespasser to say that the true owner «11 have an undiminished harvest next year. Last year's iiarvcst was bis also. If by the use of the plural |)ronoun his Tiordship means that the harvest of the contested meadow is to be divided between the litigants, 1 beg to remind him that the title of the I United States to the Pribyloflf Islands has not yet been contested, and that our flag does lnotfb)at over any sealing-vessel. The illustration is inai)t in the further particular that lllie seals not taken this year may be taken next, while the grass must be harvested or lloet. This Government has already been advised in the course of this correspondence tbat [Great Britain repudiates all obligations to indemnify the United States for any invasion lof its jurisdictitm, or any injiny done to its sealing ))roi)erty by the Canadian sealers. iThe attempt to make a damage chuise one of the Articles of the Arbitration Agreement lilujed, because Her Majesty's Government wouhl not consent that the questi(m of its lliabiiity to indemnify the United Slates for the injuries done by the Canadian sealers lihould be submitted. Two extracts from the correspondence will sufficiently recall the littitude of the respective Governments. In my note of the 23rd July I said : " The I'resident believes tbat Her Majesty's iGovernment nniy justly be held responsible, under the attendant circumstances, for linjurics done to the jurisdictional or property lights of the United States by the sealing. Itessels flying the liritisb flag, at least since the date when the right of these vessels to linvade the Behring's Sea and to pursue therein the business of ])elagic sealing was made lite subject of diplomatic intervention by Lord Salisbury. In bis opini(m, justice [requires that Her Majesty's (Government shouhl respond for the injuries done by those Is, if their acts are found to have been wrongful, as fully as if each bad borne a Iwmmission from the Government to do the act conqdained of. The presence of the Imastcr, or even of a third person, under circumstances calculated and intended to give Itncouragement, creates a liability for trespass at the common law, and nnicli more, if Ihis presence is acconq)anied with declarations of right, ])rotests against the defence lihich the owner is endeavouring to make, and a declared purpose to aid the jtrespassers if they are resisted. The justice of this rule is so apparent that it is not seen n, in the less technical Tribunal of an international arbitration, it could be held to be |iupplicable. "The United States might well insist that Her Majesty's Government should admit Iffisponsibility i'm the acts of the Canadian sealers, which it has so directly encouraged lind promoted, precisely as in the pro])osal the United States admits resixmsibility for the lids of its revenue vessels. But, with a view to remove what seems to be the last point lof difference in a di.scussion which Inis been very much protracted, the President is willing Ito modify bis proposal, and directs me to offer the fohowing: — 'The Government of Great Britain having presented the claims of its subjects for Itompcnsation for the seizure of their ves.sels by the United States in Behring's Sea; and Ihe Government of the United States having presented, o\\ its (»wn beiialf as well as of ' jlk lessees of the privilege o*' taking seals on the Paibyloff Islands, claims for eompensa- Jlion by reason of the killing of seals in the Behring's Sea by pei-sons acting under the |protccti(m oi the British flag, the Arbitrators shall consider and decide upon such clainui laccordance with justice and equity, and the respective rights of the High Contracting powers, and it shall be competent for the Arbitrators to a\Nard such compensation as, in llieir judgment, shall seem equitable." Ill your note of the 17th October you say : — "I regret to inform you that Her Majesty's Government, after the fullest con- iJeration, have arrived at the conclusion that this new clause could not. properly be cnted to by them. In their opinion, it implies an admission of a doctrine respecting Ike liabilities of Governments for the acts of theii nationals or other persons sailing r |. S! i ! i« 6 under their flag on the liis^h hcuh, for v. iiicli there w no tvarrant in the law of nntioiu, Thus it contains the following words : — " ' The Qovernmcnt of the United States having presented on its o>vn bolialf ax well as of the lessees of the privilege of taking seals on the PribylyfT Islands, claims for compensation by reason of the killing of sonls in Behring's Sea by jKirsons actinf; under the protection of the British flaa;. the Arbitrators shall consider and decide upon such claim.' "Tliese words involve the proposition that Her Majesty's Government arc liable to make good losses resulting from the wrongful action of jjersons sailing outside their | jurisdiction under the British flag. Her Majesty's Government could not accept such 1 1 doctrine." The President cannot believe that, while holding this view of its accountability, the I Government of Great Britain will, pending the arbitration, countenance, much less justify or defend, the continuance of pelagic sealing by its subjects. It should cither assume responsibility for the acts of these sealers, or restrain them from a pursuit the lawfulness of which is to be determined by the arbitration. In your note of the 20th Fcbruory you state that Her Majesty's Government has been I informed by t)»e British Commissioners '• that, so far os pelagic sealing is concerned, there is no danger of serious diminution of the fur-scul species as n conseqtience of this year's hunting," and upon this ground Lord Salisbury places his refusal to renew the morfui of last year. His Lordship seems to assume a determination of the arbit -ation ugainNt the I United States and in favour of Great Britain, and that it is already only a qiicstioni of so regulating a common right to take seals as to preserve the species; by what right I does he do this ? Upon what principle docs he assume that if our claims are established,! any diminution of the seals, whether serious or not, during this season, or indeed, anri taking of seals, is to be without recompense ? In the opinion of the President, it is not! consistent with good faith that either ])arty to an arbitration should, pending a decision,! in any degree diminish the value of the subject ot arbitration or take any profit fromj the use of it without an agreement to account. Before an agreement for arbitration had been reached, the prohibition of iKjlagicj sealing was a matter of comity ; from the moment of the signing of that Agreement itj became, in his opinion, a mutter of obligation. During the season of 1891. notwithstanding the restrictions resulting fromtiie modtu adopted, the Canadian sealers took, in the Behrings Sea alone, 28.763 skins, or noarlTl four times us many us the restricted catch upon our island. This Government is no* advised that fifty-one vessels from British Columbia and si.\teen from Nova Scotia havej sailed, or are about to sail, for tlie Behring's Sea to engage in taking seals. This largi increase in the fleet engaged makes it certain, in the absence of an effective restrictivd agreement, that the destruction of .seal life during this .s^: on by pelagic sealing will be unprecedented, and will, in the opinion of our Commissioners, so nearly destroy tha value of the seal fisheries as to make what will remain of so little value as scarcely! be a worthy subject for intornationul arbitration. The proposition of Lord Salisbury, to prtdiibit the killing of seals at sea " within ( zone extending to not more than 30 nautical miles around the Pribyloff Islands." is obviously inadequate and so impossible of execution that this Government cannot ontorl tain it. In the early part of the discussion of the subject of a modus for last yearthij method was tentatively suggested, among others, in conversation between yourself .inJ Mr. Blaine. But it was afterwards, in effect, agreed by both Governments to inadequate, and was not again referred to in the correspondence. In the Meniorandud furnished by you with your note of the 6th June you say, •' Lord Salisbury points onj that if seal-hunting be prohibited on one side of a purely imaginary line drawn in Ih open ocean, while it is permitted on the other side of the line, it will he impossible i| many cases to prove unlawful sealing, or to infer it from the possession of skins or fishii tackle." Tliis was said with reference to the water boundary of our purchase from Rass but it is quite as applicable to the 30-mile zone which he now suggests. The prevalen of fogs in these waters gives increased force and conclusiveness to the point made by 1 Lordship against an imaginary water-line. The President cannot agree, now that the terms of arbitration have been settle! that the restrictions imposed shall be less than those which both Governments definij to be appropriate when it was still uncertain whether an early adjustment of tij controversy was attainable. He therefore hopes that Her Majesty's Government i consent to renew the arrangement of last year with the promptness which the exigem demands, and to agree to enforce it by refusing all clearances to sealing-vessels for lij . -Jij^i^ i'.ibi.ta.. the law of nationg, J its owTi bclmlf. as !* Islands, claims for ^)cr8onH actin-; under nd decide ui)on such vernmcnt ar(> liable 1 sailing outside their | Id not accept xucli a i :s accountability, the ntcnancc, much less ts. It should cither hem from a pursuit Government 1ms been I g is concerned, there I quence of this year's I to renew the morfuil irbit -ation uguinst the I ready only a (luestionl )ccies; by what right! laims are established,! cason, or indeed, any f he President, it is not I I, pending a decision,! take any profit froml [)rohibition of ijclagicj of that Agreement itf suiting from the mok 8,7C3 skins, or neaiiyl s Government is noif rom Nova Scotia havej ;ing seals. This largi an effective restrictiyd ly pelagic sealing will 80 nearly destroy tha value as scarcely toj seals at sea " within ( ribyloff Islands." is sd >rnment cannot ontorl odus for last year thif between yourself un^ Governments to In the Memoraniiuij rd Salisbury points oij nary line drawn in th it w'ill be impossible i *sion of skins or fishii purchase from Ru gests. The prevalen the point made by 1 ion have been settlej li Governments deem rly adjustment of llj esty's Government i ess which the exigeiK sealing-vessels t'ortll nrohihited waters, and l)y recalling from those waters all such vessels as have already cleared . This Government will honourably abide the judgment of the High Tribunal which Ins been agreed upon, wiiether that judgment be favourable or unfavourable ; and will lot seek to avoid a juct responsibility for any of its acts which by that judgment are found to be unlawful. Bu^ certainly the United States cannot be expected to suspend the defence, by such means as are within its power, of the property and jurisdictional rights claimed by it pending the arbitration, and to consent to receive them from that Tribunal, if awarded, shorn of much of their value by the acts of irresponsible persons.. I have, &e. (Signed) WILLIAM F. WHARTON. No. 12. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Vnunce/ole. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, March 9, 185)2. I SHOULD wish you to repent to Lord Stanley your telegram <if yesterday, ftlH)ut Behring's Sea. No. 13. Sir G, liaden-Potpell to the Marquis of Salisliurif. — {Receired March 10.) (Telegmphic.) Washington, March <d, 185)2. WITH reference to the modus vivendi, I iim of opinion timt the taking of ono swison's limited crop cannot injure the seal herd, but that, although not necessary, the renewal of last year's prohibition and the 7,r)00 limit would be beneficial. As the iVjbitmtion Convention conditions ocean rights, 1 hope that the Canadian Government has warned tlu> British Columbian sealei-s that the nlf iniate ownerehip of the seals taken this year in Behring's Sea depends upon the verdict of the Arbitrators. The alternatives for the sealers appear to be «'ither to incur the expense of the catch subject to this risk, or to forego, without compensation, one season's catch of, say, 20,000 (in Behring's Sea), on condition that 7,500 instead of 30,000 are taken on the islands, increased numbers of seals in future seasons, and enhanced prices for this spring, being also insured by such restrictions. No. 14. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, March 15, 1892. i SHOULD wish you to repeat to the Governor-General the telegram I have received from Sir G. Baden-Powell, dated 9th March. No. 15. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncrfote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, March 18, 1892. ilEll Majesty's Government have bad under their consideration, and have consulted the Govei-nor-General of Canada in regard to, the arguments in favour of a renewal of the modus vivendi of last year, contained in Mr. Wharton's note of the ^<th instant, the substance of which is given in your telegram of that day. The necessity of relerencc to Ottawa has caused a de'r , lu returning an answer. The information which has reached i I er Majesty's Government does not lead them I to believe that, in onler to prevent an undue diminution of the number of fur-seals, any necessity exists for the suspension of sealing for another year. Heyond this question, however, I understand that the Government of the United [2981 C tf" i- States consider tlmt, shnuld hoo nonling be iH'rmittcd this year, and the Unitt'd States' claim to jiirisdictiun in Hchring's Soa be upheld t)y the Arbitrators, they Imvc a iii,'lit to be prot<'ct(«d from the loss that they will have HulVorcd by the scaling oDcratiDiis, Her Majesty's (Jovcrnmcnt do not dispute that there will be some fouiidiitioii fof this contention when the Arbitration Agreement has been ratititHl. Hut there is this detect in tiic proliibition of all sealing as a remedy, that if the British cont«'i\tion |shall be upheld by the Arbitrators, there may be ground Air complaint "u the part of the Ih-itish sealers who will have been excluded Inmi B«'hriiig's Sea. Further, i.o security exists that the Arbitrators will have given their dicisioa befoH! the sealing season of ISOIJ arrives. As you are awaie, there has been an arhitmtion pending for four years hciwcen this coinitry, the United States, and Portugal, which is not yet approaching conclusion, Serious damage would b(« caused to the sealing industry by a suspension of | hunting for a prolonged period. As a more e(iiiitable arrangement, might it not 1m! agreed that sealing-vesscls shall 1 be at liberty to hunt in Hehring's S(!a on condition that security is given by tlic (i\vii,>r| of each vessel for satisfying the award of damages, if any, Avhich the Arbitrators may eventually pronounce ? No. 10. Lord Knutsford to Lord Stanley of Pre»ton. (Telegraphic.) Downing Street, March 18, 1892. I'LEASE direct the jn-oper port authority at all harbours on the Pacific mast tol inform owners who are clearing or have cleared this year for Pehring's Sea ttial llcrl Majesty's Government and the United States' (jovernment have agreed, subject t(i tlicr ratification of the Senate, to sulmiit to arl)itrati(m the (juestion whether sealers liavc a right, witlioul permission of the United States, to seal iii the eastern half dfl HehriiiLr's Sea. east of the llnssian line, and that it is |i<issii(le \hn sentenci; of tlicNaidl Triliunal may lie given within the present lishing season, ibn'eover, that hotli llcr Majesty's (jo\'eninieiit and the I'nited Stales' (Jovernment have made propositions fdt intermediate Itennlalions restraining ihe catch of seals in the said waters in ease tlnj said Arbitration ALrreenient sliould be ratified. Neither the Arhitmtion Agreement ikiiJ any intermediate Agreement have yet been delinitively .'nlo]»1ed between tlie twij (lovei'nments, anil whether they are adopted, and at what date, is necessarily a iiiation of uncertainty. lUit notice is hereby given to all sealers pi'oposing to seal in tli('s;ii(l| waters that tiiey do so at their own risk, and after warning of the liability t" iiititJ ru])tion to A\liich they may be exposed in consequence of either of tiio sai{| Agreements. No. 17. Sir J. Pnuncpfote to the Marqtiis of Salisbury, — {Received March 24.) (Telegraj)bic.') Washington, March 23, lSi)i LAST night I r(>ceived the reply of the United States' Government to iiij note embodying the substance of your Lordship's telegram of the 18th instant the Hehring's Sea (nu-stion. The President requeste<l that it should be telegrapluil td your Lordship. The substance of it is as follows : — The President !iad given immediate attention to my note, on account of M (>xtreme gravity and urgency of the matter, growing out of the fact that any worfuj Vivendi will 1)e matle ineJTectual for the prf)tection of the interests of the United Stati'l by nmch further protraction, and that, by rea.son of the impossibility of conimiu nicalingwith the Canadian sealers, immunity will be given to them. These vi'sscl liave hastened their departure, as is known, in order to escjvp»> notice of any ww'iij vivendi being served upon them. Forty-seven vessels have already cleared, anil measures be not taken to stop them, they will pursue the slaughter of gravid fiMiialJ seals to tin" very shores of the breeding islands. This is a crinu,' against nature. If til arbitration proceeds, the United States' Government expect to he able to show that llJ I iiifBi ^ nr^T the United Stntvs' they liavi' a ii;,'ht iug opt'mtiiiiis, tmc foiiiuliitiiiii for omtuly, thiit if Ihc ly bo i^niiinil for «(<n oxcludfd from iv<'i\ thi'ir decision I'our yearns lictwivn )achin;^ (^Diicliision. ly a sdsjHMiNioii of I ;cnliiig-V('HS('ls simll i»ivcti by tlic iiwiivr be Arbitrators nuiv \, March IH, lS<)i I lb(> raeiflc I'mist tol brini;'s Sea tiuit ilcrl i^rt'tnl, auhjccl to tlicl vlictbcr scalers liiui'l tbc eastern liidf ofl sentence of tlic said| lover, tliat both lln ia(b' ]>ro|iositi()ns I'url id uatcrs in case tli ition Ai^rccniciit imij d betwecm tlic t\v(J necessarily a inattoi| v' to scfil in tiie saiill tiie lialiilitv ti> inlirJ eitbcr of tlic sniiil March 24.) rt ,M«n-A23, lS!)i Government t" ml tbe IBtli instant nd 1(1 be t(dei,'raplieil tij on account of act tliat any worfJ of tbe United Statil (ssibility of eoiiinm] hem. ' Tbcsc vessili notice of any mH •adv cleared, ami i ter'of ^'ravid fcmalj ainst nature. It t'l ible tosbow tliat till Iririp'r |)ercentai;e of tbe pelaijic catcb coiiBists of fenmle Reals. It is siirprisin!;^ and (lisn|)|iointinsf, in view of tlio alH>ve, tluit your l.<or<lsliip should assuini* tbat suspension of sncb senlinij for auotlier year is not neeessai-y. in order to prevent the undue diminution of tlie seaMienls, and that you should insist that it should continue. If Her Majesty's (Jovernmeut |>ays so little ri'i,'ard to the contention* of tbe United States* Government as to refuse to respect them for a Niiii,'le season, tim President is uiuilile to inidersta'id for what reason it sboild have been proposed and a^jrit'd to by your Lordsliip to tfive them the status in olied by the ■iirrecinent 1<» submit them to arbitration. It was open to neither party t ) disrei,'anl the contention of tlie other from the date of the si;,'naliire of the above .\y:reement. It must be assuuu'd that the object which the two (Jovenimcnts had in view was the |n'oniotion of i;(M)d-will an I peace but; if, while arbitration is penilini,', the siibjcct-niatter is dealt with by either of them on the basis of its own contention only, this purpose is not attained; on the contrary, and even if it should be possible under such ciieuinstances to proceed with the arbitration, a new .sense of injury and injustice is added. If Her Majesty's (lovernment jirocceds this season on the basis of its contention as to the ritfht'. of liie (Canadian sealers, no choice I'cmains for the I'liited .States but to proceed on the basis of their own coiitident contention, that pclai^icsealiiiir is iin infraction of its jurisdiction and projirietary li^'hts. This, in the opinion of (he ['resident, constitutes the ijravity of the situation, and he is not williiii,' to be found responsible for such results as may follow fntm an insistance on tbe part of eitbcr Government durini^ this buntinu; seaw^n on the extrenu* riijhts claimed by it. The two irreat Govi'rmnents interestt>d in tbe question would be discredited in the eyes of the worhl if the friendly adjustment of their dilliculties, which is so nearly concluded, were to be thwarted, or even disturbed, on account of the paltry piolits of a siiiifle senson. Ibit if your liordshi]) persists in refusing; to join the (Jovernnient of the United States in stopiiiujj; pdai^ic sealini; jn-omiitly, and insists upon the maintciuuijc of free sealiii;; 1V)»' Uritish subjects, the question eo lon;.^er is one of pecuniary lo-s or j,'ain, but one of honour and self-respect, so far as it alfocts the Government ot the United States. Tbe United States have projioscd to take no iirolit from the island catch, notwith- standiiu: that (heir riitht to take seals on tbe islands is neither disputed nor involved ill the arbitration, and to cn<?ai!;e that the take should be limited to the necessities of the natives. Whether with or without indemnitv, they are unable to consent that the rij,'hts of British subjects in Hehrinij's S(>:i, which an; contested, shall continue to be exercised while arbitmtion is ])endiui,'. The President (inds it didiciilt to believe that your liordship is serious in jiroposini^ that bonds aj^iinst the injury which may be inflicted on the jurisdiction or property of tb«' United States shall he taken by the United States' Government from tbe ownere of about 100 Canadian vessels, and he must decline to discuss a sugf^estion which only his respect for your liordsbij), and his belief that the gnivity of this discussion is fully realized by your Lordship, enables him to treat seriously. In order to secure the proposed bonds, the United States would have to jmrsue owners u])on the sea, and as the condition is to be tbat "any dainai,'es which the Arbitrators shall adjudge" shall be paid by the owners, whih^ no jiowcr to adjudgi? such damages is given to the Arbitrators by the Treaty, the transaction would lie of no value to the United States, and without risk to the owners. ]bit bow ever adequate the setnirity odered, the United States' Government cannot consent to have its rights impaired, pending their determination by a Tribunal of Arbitration. Tin; reference in Mr, Blaine's last note to tlie inconsistency of Her Majesty's Government in denying resjionsibilily for the acts of Canadian sealers was not meant to imply that tbe United States would be willing to consent to the conversion of their property into a claim for damages, particularly as the Arbitratore cannot determine such a (daim unless the Treaty be revised. Your Lordship should bear in miud, whilst making your present proposal, that the fact of the Arbitrators not having jurisdiction as to damages is the result of concessions made by the United States' Government to your views. The President fails to see how claims can, by law or equity, be brought by subjects of either Power against their respective Governments, on account of restraints imposed with a view to the promotion of the public good or of international peace. There is full provision in the Treaty itself against the suggestion, that the conclusion of the arbitration will not be reached before the s'joson of 1893. As to the Uelagoa Bay Arbitration, your Lordship is in error in thinking that it has been proceeding for four years. It dates from a period of less than one year ago. If the Treaty is promptly ratified, mutual interests will be a sufficient guarantee against delay. The sole obstacle [2981 1) '^ 1 if ;t \ '-^1 i| ih II f 10 1o siiHi n conHUinmntion is tho prevnlcnt boliof, that Orcwt Britain'* roftisat to preserve tlio Hiatus quo of tliP pnipcrtv, iiiui iicr insi«tiinc<* on ooMtiiiuanco of p<'Inf;ic sciilinip (lurinif till' arliitrafion, to the injury of tlin rights of the Unit«'(l States, inr^ely «lrl'.;its the ol)jeet for wiiieh tlie 'IVeaty was made. The note end-* witli tlie foliowini: words: "The I'residont direets me to miv, in conehision. that tlie inodux rirrndi of last year is the least that this (lovernineiit ciri accept. In reiison, the restrnints after a Treaty of Arliitration should he inon; ahsohite, not h-ss. lie does not desire to protnict the discussion, and haviiifj now, ill the most Iriendiy sfiirit, submitted the considerations which support the just (leniMiiil «)f this (lovernincnt, that the pniperty whieli is now the subject of an asjreed arhitratinii shall not ne sultje<'t to spoliation pendini; the arbitration, he expresses the hope tliat liord Sali-iliury will i:ive a prompt and friendly assent to the renewal of the mmlu.i vivenili. 'I'lie I'resiilenI will lienr with n-gi-et that Her Afajesty's (iovernnient continues to assert a rii,'lit to deal with this subject precisely as if no provision had been inaije for the settlement of the dispute ; and in that event, this Government, as has already liecn pointed out, will be coinpeUed to (h'al with the subject upon the same basis, aiul to use every means in its power to protect from destruction ur serious injury projieity and jurisdictional rights which it has hmsf claimed and enjoyed." No. IR. The Mnrquh nf Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote, (TolcsTraphic.) Foreign Office, March 20, 18!)2. IN reply to your teleijram of the 23rd instant, notice has liccn fifiven to tlic owners of ships sailini,' Un JJehrinj;'s Sea. that both the Aj^recments which are at present under discussion between Great liritain and the United States— that as to Arbitration and that as to an intermediate amnfjemont — may alfcct the liberty dI' sealini,' in Jk'hrinjj^'s Sea. They have, t! ere fore, notice of their liability to possible interruption, and will tail subject to that notice. The ((uestion of time is not, therefore, urgent. Inform President that we concur in thinking that when the Treaty shall have been ratitied there v/ill arise a new slate of things. Until it is ratified our conduct is govenied by the l;.nguage of your note of the llth .Tune, 1890. Hut when it is ratitied both parties must admit that contingent rights have become vested in tlie other, wliich both desire to protect. We think that the prohibition of sealing, if it sUinds alone, will be unjust to British sealers, if ihe decision of the Arbitrators should bo advcree to the United States. We are, however, willing, when the Treaty has been ratifit^, to agree to an arrangement similar to that of last year, if the United States will consent that the Arbitrators should, in the event of a decision adverse to the United Statts, assess the damages which the prohibition of sealing shall have inflicted on British sealers during the |)endeney of the Arbitration ; and, in the event of a decision adverse to Great Britain, should assess the damages which the limitation of slaughter shall, during ihe pendency of the Arbitration, have inflicted on the United States or its lessees. As an alternative course we are also willing, after the ratification of the Treaty, to prohibit sealing in the disputed waters, if vessels be excepted from the prohibition which produce certificate that they liave given security for such damages as the Arbitrators may assess, in cas<! of a decision adverse to Great Britain ; the Arbitratoi-s to receive the necessary authority in that behalf. In this case the «^stinction of slaughter on the islands will not, in point of equity, be necessary. Her Majesty's Government are unable to see any other than one of these two methods of restricting seal-hunting in the disputed waters during the Arbitration, which will be equitable to both parties. 1 .!.'-,•. I j^ivou to tlic Affil 11 No. 19. The Marquia of Saliabury to 8ir J, PauneefoU. (TeH'raphio.) Forrian Office, March 2G, 1892. WITH rurthor reference to your telegram of the 28ra instant, I am not prepared lo admit, aa I gather that the President thinks, that wo have objected to the Arbitnttors having juriNdiction as to damages inflicted in the paHt hj the party against Thoin tlie award is given. I only objected to make Her Majesty's Oovomment liable I (or nets which they have not committed. I am ready to consent to a reference on this point in the following terms : — That in case the Arbitrator* shall decide in favour of the Uritish Government, that (lovemment may ask them, further, to decide whether the United States' GoTcrnment have since 1886 taken any action in Bohring's Sea directly intlicting I I wrongful loss on British subjects, and, if so, to assess the damage incurred thereby. That in case the Arbitrators shall decide in favour of the Government of the j Unittnl States, that Government may ask them to decide, further, whcthcT the British Government liavo since 1885 taken any action in Behring's Sea directly inflicting a nongful loss on the United States or its lessees, and, if so, to assess the damage incurred thereby. «5 i (^ mty shall have our conduct is lut when it is vested in the be imjust to to the United to agree to an nsciit that tlic vtts, assess the British sealers sioii advei-so to laughter shall, States or its of the Treaty, Ithe prohibition images as the Ithe Arbitratoi-s "^striction of of these two litration, which 11 1 \ t it: ! 'ip »;• t I n 1 -J ^' I :h. pp ' v 90 =. ? I: i ? I tyj 3^ Bl [In C( ^i^^LlisiM^ik&k UNITED STATES. No. 3 (1892). FURTHER CORRESPONDENCE «*.<-- •* ■ BI8PB0TIN0 THE BEHRING SEA SEAL FISHERIES. ^ I: [In continuation of "United States No. 2 (1891):" C. 6368; and including the Papers contained in " United States Nos. 1 and 2 (1892) :" C. 6633 and 6634] Presented to both Houses of Parliament by Command of Her Majesty. April 1892. U.iSS LONDON: r'RINTED FOR HER MAJESTY'S STATIONERY OFnCE BY HARRISON AND SONS, ST. MARTIN'S LANK, raiHnis iir oiDiiiABr to ■■■ iia»(tt. And to h* pinhued, eitbw diractlj or Um>ii|h mj BookMUer, from KTRI AMD SPUTTI8WOODE, East Hardino Stkht, Fiiit SrmnT, E.C, a.«d 32, AbINOOO!! SiMIT, WnTMIRITtB, S.W.J UB JOHN MENZIES & Co., 12, Hanotbb STBisr, EoliiiDBaa, amd 90, Win NiLi Stbbbt, Olaioowj ob HODGES, riGGTS, * Co., 104, GBArron Stbirt, Ooblih. ir ■r ;t .,..! '[^: ! ^ I 'i un.pj(ll m^^ TABLE OF CONTENTS. No. Name. Date. Subject. 1 X Sir J. I'auncefote •• Apr. lt», 1891 Note from Mr. Blaine of the 14lh April, witli alternative suggestions for Arbitration Con- vention 3 Mr. C. Hawkini • • 89. Information as to killing nf seals, and risk of extermination of the species 3 Colonial Office .. May 27, Advises joint inquiry into whole question of sealing at sea and on land 4 If •» •• 29, Canadian (iovcrnment agree to modus vivendi on certain conditions . , 5 'lo Sir R. Morier . . Telegrapliic June 2, To ask Uussiau Government if they would join in proposed modus vivendi 6 To Sir J. Pauncefote., Telegrapliic 2, Proposes terms of mndus rivendi 7 Sir J. Pauncefote . Telegraphic 2. Possible objections to clause 1 of above proposal 8 To Sir J. Pauncefote, . Telegraphic 2, Answer to N". I. Accepts first fi- e points pro- posed. Alternative for si' th point and suggested compensation clause 9 To M. de Staal •• 9, Asks consent of Russia to temporary suspen- sion of sealing 10 Sir J. Pauncefote Telegraphic 3. Answer lo Nos. 6 and 8 Communication made to United States' Government 11 To Sir E. Malet 3, Is German Government nufficiently interested to be invited to concur in suspension of sealing? 12 Sir B. Morier Telegraphic 4, Answer to No. 3. Russian Government havn not heard from United Stales' Government on the suliject of modui vivendi . . 13 Sir J. Pauncefote Telegraphic 4. Answer to No. 6. Alternative proposals of United States' Government for terms of modus vivendi 14 To Sir R. Morier Telegraphic 5, Refers to No. 12. Would be glad to know views of M. de Gi irs . . 13 To Sir J. Pauncefote Telegraphic 3. Answer to No. 13. Observations on United States' proposals IC Sir J, Pauncefote Telegraphic 6, Answer to above. Terms of modus vivendi as finally proposed by United Stales' Govern- j ment . . . . . . . . | 17 ti » • ' May 28, Note from United Stales' Government asking ' for early reply to their communication of | 4th May proposing modus vivendi, and reply thereto Protest against mcdus vivendi from British 18 Colonial Office June 8, Columbian Board of Trade, and proposed ! reply . . . . .,' 19 Sir K. .Morier Telegraphic 8, Views iif M. de Giers on modus vivendi 20 To Sir J. Pauncefole Telegraphic 8, Answer to No. 16. Her Majesty's (iovcin- meut will assent to modus vivendi in teiins of following No. . , . ! 31 M II . . Telegraphic 8, Terms of modus vivendi . , 22 Sir J. Pauncefote . . Telegraphic 8, Draft of modus vivendi delivered lo United j .States' Government .. ,, 33 ii »» . . Telegraphic 9, Reply of United States' Government lo above. Further alterations desired 24 To Sir K, Morier . . Telegraphic 9, Grounds en which Russia is asked to forbid j selling this year 25 To Sir J. Pauncefote.. Telegraphic 10, Answer lo No. 23. Assents lo alteration of { Articles 2 and 3. Arrangement as to .loint 1 Commission cannot be left in doubt 26 Sir J. Pauncefote ., Telegraphic 10, Refers to No. 23. Recommends acceptance of first four Articles with alterations luggested 27 11 11 •• Telegraphic 10, Insertion made by United States' Government in Article 2 .. 28 Sip K. Morier Telegraphic 10, Refers to No. 24. Could Russia stop British sealers ? 29 I'o Sir H. Morier .. Telegraphic 10. Answer to above in affirmative ZO Til Colonial Office ., . • 10, Answer to No. 1 8, Concurs in proposed reply to British Columbian Board of Trade 31 To Sir J. Pauncefole. . Telegraphic n. To obtain written assurance as to Joint Com- mission before signing modus vivendi nge 1 iS 6 7 7 8 N 10 10 10 12 13 ai 5,) 13 Vi M U ib H 56 14 57 15 58 5D l.i 60 li 61 16 16 62 16 (l:) 16 14th April, with Arbitration Coii- ■ealsi and risk of lole question of o modus Vivendi f they woiiUl jo ndi of above proposal Bt five poll' £8 pro- si- th point and I II Sf emporary siispcn- niniinication made ent .. iciently interested in suspension of , Government have { tatea' Government vendi . . tive proposals of ent for terms of be glad to know irations on United .. modus Vivendi as . States' Govern- overnment asking ' communication of ' vendi, and reply di from Hritish ide, and proposed due Vivendi Majesty's (ioveni- Vivendi in terms \ livered to United ernment to above. s asked to forbid :s to alteration of [ement as to Joint I in doubt . I Mids acceptance of { etations suggested [ tates' Government I lussia stop British in proposed reply ■d of Trade as to Joint Com- du$ vivindi lABLE OF CONTENTS. m No, 32 33 34 33 3G 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 4S 49 oO SI 3:> J:! J4 Sf) S6 Name. 5/ Sir E. Malet 64 Sir J. Pauncefote To Sir J. Pauncefote . Colonial Office To Sir J. Pauncefote Sir J. Pauncefote To Sir J. Pauncefote.. Sir J. Pauncefote , , Sir R. Morier Sir E. Malet Sir J. l':iuncefole Admiralty .. To Sir R. Morier Sir J. Pauncefote »• »' Colonial Office To Sir U. Morier . . » n '• To Colonial Uflice ., Sir J, Pauncefote To Sir J. Pauncefote, . Sir J. Pauncefote To Sir J. Pauncefote . Admiralty . . Council Office ,, Sir R. Morier To Sir G. Baden - Powell and Dr. Daw- son Sir J, Pauncefote ., Telegraphic Telegrajihic Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic Date. Teleginphic Telegraphic Telegraphic I'elegraphic Telegraphic June II, 1891 12, 13, 13, 13, 14, 14. 5, 10. 12, 15, 16, 17, 9, 9, 17, 18. 18, 19, 19, 20, 20, 21, 12, 18, 28, 22, 24, 24, 24, 16, 18, SUQJECT. r672] Answer to above. United States' Government will sign Agreement for Joint Commission simultaneously with Arbitration Agreement. . Answer to No. 17. Approves reply to United States' Government Telegram to Canada asking views as to selection of liehring's Sea Commissioners . May »\itn modus vivandi Agreement on under- standing; that there is no delay in appointment of Joint Commission Answer to No. 31. Reply ol United States' Government as to Joint Commission. Pro- poses to sign modut vivendi Agreement Answer to above. Authority to sign modus vivendi .. . . . . . . Modus vivendi signed Memoranda delivered to United States' Go- vernment respecting modus vivendi and Arbitration Airreements Note from United States' Government nf the 4th June respecting modus vivendi Coinmunicationn with .M. de Giers respecting modus vivendi ,, .. ,. Aiiswer to No. 11. German Qovcrnment not sufficiently interested to take steps for obtaining assent of Reichstag to modus vivendi Agreement Prorlamatiiin of President enibodyiu!; modus vivendi . . . . . 'J'elegrains sent to C'ommander • in - chief in China and Senior Naval Officer at F.squi- malt .. .. .. Conversation with Russian Ambassador as Ui suspension of sealinjr .. .. Memorandum delivered to United States' 'Vo- vernment respecting^ modus vivendi Note of the Oih June from U<iited States' Government respecting tnodiis vivendi Protests against modus vivendi from Board of Trade and Premier of British Columbia, and from owners of sealers. Proposed reply . . Refers to No. 34. Heply from Canada as to British Commissioners. Concur in selection of Sir G. Baden-Powell and Dr. Dawson .. Sends copies of text of modus vivendi. Copy as signed will be sent for communication to Russian Government Approves proceedings as reported in No. 41 . Answer to No. 48. Concurs in proposed reply to protests from British Columbia . . President returns to Washington on 23rd June, when negotiations will be rosnmed Approves Memorandum to United States' <io- verninent inclosed in No. 46 Summary of instructions to United States' crnizers under modus vivendi Correspondence with United States' Govern- ment respecting modus vivendi . , , , Refers to No. 42. Modus vivendi will be pub- lished in official Gazette with injunction to German subjects to observe Regulations Summary of instructions to British cruizcrs . . Co)>y of iiisti-uctions tu Senior Navul Officer at Esquimau . Copy of Beh ring's Sea Order in Council Asks if Contracting Parties to modus vivendi can seize vessels or persons other than British or American .Appointment us Commissioners, and general instructions .. .. .. .. Notes to United States' Government as to rnndition on which modus vivendi will be signed . . . . Modus vivendi Agreement as signed a 2 Page 16 17 17 18 18 18 18 19 20 21 23 23 23 25 25 26 28 ?9 30 30 30 30 31 SI 31 35 35 36 37 37 88 39 ^ I ■ lli' t. M •! , :(■ ~ TABLK or 0ONTEMT8. No. 65 66 67 Name. Sir J. Paitncefote . , To Sir R. .Morier 68 I To Sir J. Piuncefote. , G9 70 Sir J. Piunccfole 71 j To Sir J. Paiincefote.. 73 I Sir J. Paiinrefole . . Felpgraphic Telegrapliic \ Felagraphic , Telr^raphic | Trlfgraphic | IVIrgrnpliic 74 Tn Sir Powell G. Baden and Dr. Daw 75 Sit ion R M Drier 7fi Sir J. Pavincerote 77 )1 II 78 ** i> 79 tl II . 80 Date. To Sir J. Pauncefote. 81 Sir J. Paiincetbie 82 83 84 85 86 87 83 89 90 91 9-' 03 Telegraphic IVIegraphic IVUgrapliic Telegraphic Telegraphic Sir G. Raden-Powell . To Sir J. Pauncefote . •Sir J. Pauncefote To Sir G. Baden- I'owellandDr. Daw- Fon To onial Office To Sir R. Morier .. Teligrapliip Sir .1. Pnuncerole ,. ., To Sir J. I'aiincet'ote. , Telegr.ipliic To Sir II. Mnrier CVimial Ollice .lune 16, 1>>91 2.', 26. 28, . 26, 26. 26, 27, 27, IS, 21, o-> " ", 23, July 4, 5, June '2b, 2C, Julv 6. 6, June 27, Julv 9, 9. 9. 0. Subject. H»i Proclamation Af President giving eifect to moduli vieendi Substance of note from United States' Govorn- meiit of 2Sth June respecting Arbitratinn Agreement (see No. S2) Answerti to No 61. Powers of seiiurn under mudus Vivendi Agreement confined to suli- ject< or citizens of two Contracting Poworn To obtain leave for British Commissioners to visit PribylolT Islands . Leave to visit Pribyloff Islands will be sent to-day Letter receiveil giving leave to British Com- missionera to visit PribylofT Islands liefera to No. 56. Approves notes to United States' Government Copy of telegraphic iislructions to Urii'sh cruiiers (see No. 44) .. Suggests compensation clause, and proposes to sound United States' Government respecting it .. Informs of permission to visit PribylofT Islands . . . . Question of Russia joining in trfdus vimmdi still under considenition Copy of instructions to United States' naval atiicers Cori'cspondence in " Washington Post " and "New York Times," containing protest of North American Commercial Company against limitation of seal catch . . Memorandum of instructions to British crui/.ers delivered to United States' Government United States' Government are about to appoint two Commissioners to visit Behrinii's Sea. Suggests that they should make observations jointly with British Cuni- missioners . , .Answer to above. Ship already engaged to convey British Commissioners. They will be instructed to co-operate ^ ith United States' Commissioners . . Interview with Mr. Wharton, and pnstponen:eni of negotiations till return of President to Washington .. .. .. .. Note from United States' Government uf the ;i5th June, with jiroposals for rlau;es as In close season and coiopensution, and form ut Joiiit Commission Agreement Asks lor permit to visit Russian islands Approves compensation Article suggested in No. 73, and accepts 6th Article as proposed by United States' Government . . AsUs if Joint Commission Agreemeni is accepted by Her Majesty's Government Copies of Nos. 79 and 80. To ro-oiicratc as much as possible with United States' Co.ti- missioners .. Sends supplement to Annual Report of Canadian Department of Fisheries, calling attention lu passa^ies respecting seal Bslieries . . Asks permission for Uritish Commissioners tu vlnit Russian islands . . lielers to No. 58. .Memorandum of iu>ti no- tions to British naval officers acknowledgi'il by United States' Government .Answer to No. So. Joint Commission .Agree- ment accepted by Her Majesty's Govern- ment •• •• •• •• Sends copy of modus ueendi Agreement Telegram from Governor-General as to move- mtnts of British Commissioners . . Telegram sent to Gov^rnor-GeneMl in reply to above .. •• •• '?» 40 41 41 4> 42 42 42 ■•3 i 5'' I n 16 1 I 5-| 41 105 1 1 44 1 t 106 4C 107 48 i lOS ! 4i) 1(9 : 110 49 111 .'0 11.1 114 52 ll.i lit; 117 52 lis 52 1!9 ' 1 " 150 121 1 J :32 ! i3.1 H»ge ifing efTect to States' Govern- ing Arb'imtion . >f neiiurn under :onfined to »»h- • racting Powprn | ommiaaioneri to ; ida will be aent to British Com- Itlanda notes to United tions to Uril'sh , and propose!! to iiment refpecting visit Prilivloff n nf^dui vimiidi ited States' naval igton Post " a III! ainini; )irote5t of lercial Company Itch . . to British cruizers Government It are abont to 1 to visit Behrin;;'* ey should make i' British Coin- ready en|;sged to ners. They will ate t ith United and pnslponen.ent of President to loveriinient uf llu' for rlaiijcs a» tn ation, and form ot ent ian inlands jcle suggested in .rticle as proposeil lent n Agreenicni i* Government To ro-o|jcratc a» lited btaies' Cuni- 40 41 41 41 43 42 42 42 ja 41 44 4G 48 .'0 50 62 .03 iieport of Canadian :alliDg attention to ^ iheriei . . ..j 53 Commissioners to ; . . i jo andum of in>tiuo- 1 cers acknowledgi'il . lent . . . . ' ..i; ommitsion Apret- lajesly's Govern J Agreement . . ] eneral at to move- ' loners . • ener:il in reply to .if. 5' TABLE or 00MTENT8. So. Name. To Sir .1. Pauncefole. . Sir J. Faunnefote 9C I Colonial OITice 97 Sir R. Morier <|R I i> >• 99 I 'i'o Sir J. Pauncefote.. lOO ! Colonial Office , 101 To Sir II. Morier 10.) ' I o Colonial Office Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic Date. July 10, 1891 10, 10, 7, n 103 Sir (>. Htden-Powell..! ;04 Sir U. .Morier 105 j To Sir H. Mcrier 106 liehriiig's Sea Com- missioners lo; » lOS Colonial Office 1C9 Biliring's Sea Com- missioners 110 Sir J. Pauncefole 111 11,1 I To Mr. Fraser 114 Sir U. Morier . 1 ll.i 'I'o Sir J. Pauncefote . ||(i Mr. Howard Tclegrnpliic Telegraphic Telegraphic I'eUgraphic To .Mr. Howard Sir J. Pauncefole Mr. Howard , . Colonial Office .. Behring's Sea Com- mi'sionera To Sir J. Pauncetote. . 117 I I 118 I i n9 no 121 iJ.T I23»i Sir G. Baden-Powell.. 1'.'4 Sir J. Pauncefote 1?, Id, 5, 17, 17. 7, 7. 31. Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic 9. 14, 23, 24. 22, 27, £9, 31, 24, 29. Aug I, July 16, Aug .12, 23, 8, 23, Siin,iKCT. Page Informs of above teleerams ,. .. A7 DiscuMion as to compensation clause. Inquiry of the Preaidenl, snd proposed irpty •• 57 .Assent of Her Majesty's Gnveriinient to Kii>sian proposals conditional on the aaree- ment of the United SlAte* i. .. !ii M. de Giers' repiv to notes transmitted in No. 41 .. ■ ,. .. .. 68 CoDV of note to M. de Giers in the sc.i<e of No. 88 .. .. „ .. 59 .Approves No. 95 .. .. ..60 Copy of despatch from (iovernnr-General of Canada, inclosing letter from IVitiah Columbia Sealers' Association, setting forth objections to the passing of the Behring's Sea Seal Fishery Act. Proposed reply to Governor-tieneral . . . . . , 60 Approves action reported in No. 99. . .. 64 Concurs in reply to Governor-General as pro. posed in No. 100 .. .. .. C4 Paraphrase of telegram requesting permit to visit llossian islands . . . . . . 64 Instructions will doubtless be tent to Governor of Vladivostock to grant facilities to our Cominissioners ,. .. ,.64 Acknowledges No. 97. Her Majesty's Govern- ment do not think that such an arrangement at that proposed by M. de Giers would be desirable ., ., .. .. C!i Acknowledges Nn. 62 .. .. .. 6o .Acknowledges No. 74. Copy of letter from Treasury Department, Washington, giving permission to visit the Pribyloff Inlandii . . 6i Copy of despatch from (lOvernor-General of Canada reporting the public,.ition of the Agreement for a modus vivendi . , . . 66 Information required from Japaneee Govern ment .. .. .. ..68 Copy of note to .Mr. Wharton in sense of No. 99 .. .. .. .. 69 Refers to No. 110. Summary of note from United States' Government (Inelosure in No. 117, in/'o.) •■ •• ..69 Asks for information requested in No. 109 .. 70 Copy of note to A. de Giers in sense of No. 105 .. .. ., 70 ApprovrsNo.no ... ..71 Refers to No. 104. Ruttian Government have given necessary permisticn for British Com- missioners to visit the Russian seal fisheries. 71 I Acknowledges No. 115. To thank Russian I Government .. ,. .. .. 71 Copy of reply from United Stales' Government to note of i.''th July (sent in No. 110) .. 71 Refers to No. 1 15. Copy of note from M. de Giers .. .. ..74 Copy of despatch from Governor-General of Canada on Mr. Hawkins' letter (No. 2) .. 74 Report of proceedings . . , . . . 76 Refers to Ko. 118. Her Majesty's Govern- ment (annot arrepl doctrine implied in modi- fication of the Vlith Article as proposed by Mr. Wharton . . . ;6 To recapitulate grounds on which Her Majesty's Government cannot agree to modification of Article VII ns expl.iined in above, and make new proposal .. 77 Take of seals ia in excels of 7,500.. .. ;7 It writing unofficially to Acting Secretary of State in sense of No. I'JS .. .. il ■r ' ■ 1,- r. ; t -t ir: .1 TABLE OF OON'JKNfS. No. 1J5 136 137 12S 12!> 130 131 132 133 134 13 •> 13C 1.17 188 139 1-10 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 14S no 151 152 193 154 1S5 156 137 )SS To Sir J. Pauncefole. Sir J, Pauncerote Behi'in|;'» Sea Com- missioners Sir J. Pauncefote Colonial Office To Behring's Sea Com- missioners Sir J. Pauncefote Si- a. Ikden-Powell Sir .1 Pauncefote To Sir J. Pai'.ncerote . Colonial OfSce ,. Hchiinp'- Sea Com- inisjiionrr:! U«le. Telegrapliic Aug. 36, IS91 20, 28, o, rdegraphic Telejrrapliic Pi'legrapliic Telegraphic Sir ,1. Pauncefote . . Telogr.ipliic i Memorandum bv Sir G. Baden- Powell | To Sir J. Pauncefote jTelegraphic Sir J. Pauncefote ..jTelegraphic I To Sir J. Paunccfite. . Telegraphic Sir J. Pauncefote 'Telegraphic To .Mr. Howard Colonial Office Sir J. Pauncefote . . Colonial Office .. To Behring's Sea Commissioners To Sir G.Baden- Powell Sir J. Paimccfote ., Bt'liiinj's Sea Com- inissiouers TrlFgrapliic 6, Sept. 8, 10, 12. 4, 10, Oct. 8, 12, 15, 16, Sept. 17, 17, Oct. 19, Aug. 10, Oct. 20, 20, 21, 12, 13 23, 21, 26, 19, 20, do, 30. 31, 14. 19. SunjRcr. To inform United States' (iovemment of Sir G. Baden - Powell'* report of excessive number of seals taken, and ask that tlic Agreement may ho strictly observed President does not consider it necessary to raise question of mutual indemnities unl,^is it should arise Refers to No. 124. Private and unofficial letter to Mr. W'Imrton sut;geslin<r compcnsa- ticm clause Inquiry from Mr. Wharton when reply as to compensation cliiuse may he expected Seals killed in ekcus* of '.,500 limit. Result of inquiries, and letter to United States' Treasury Agent .. ,. ,, Reports visit to Pribyloff and other islands . . Substance of private and imoffioial note from Mr. Wharton respecting compensation clause (see No. 185) Report by Minister of Marine and Fisheries relating to seal life on Pribyloff Islands Approves proceedings reported in No. 130 .. United States' Government informed of ex- cessive number of seals killed Private and unofficial note from Mr. U'iiarton. President's reply to proposals in Vo. 123 Reports return of Commission to E^quimalt United States' (ioverninent pross foi' reply to llieir note of 2:ird .Inly. IVo;:o.-es replving officially in »cn«e of private li tier to Mr. Wharton of 2()th August (sec No. 127) Answer to al>ovc. To proceed as proposed . . Communications with Uritish Columbia Sealers' Association Report visit to Russian islands Report of proceedings up to date . . Refers to Nos. 137 and 138. Alternative pro- posals of United States' Government res- pecting compensition clause Limitation of catch of fur-seals under modus Vivendi Agreement .Answers >io. 142. Second clause suggested by United States' (iovemment accepted Asks if Joint Commission Article may be signed .Answers above. .May si'jrii Joint Commission Article Reply of United States' Government respecting excessive number of .seals taken, and obser- vations thereon . , . . . , letter from .Mr. Wharton pressing for reply to United St:ites' Government's note of the 23rd July (see No. 137) Interchange of notes recording adoption of seven Articles of Arbitration Agreement .. To thank Russian Government for reception of British Commissioners on Russian islands Memorial from British Columbian Sealers' Association Official reply sent to United States' Oovern- raent in reply to their note of 23rd July . . Return of Behring's Sea Gommiasionerg to Ottawa ,. .. ,, Copy of reply of United States' Government respecting excessive number of leals taken (see No. 147). Asks for observations Acknowledges Memorandum on limitation of seal catch (see No. 143) with thanks Proposals by .Mr. Blaine for constitution of Tribunal of Arbitration Report of proceedings. Investigations com- pleted . . . . Observations on excessive numl>er of seals killed on islands . . 77 78 79 80 80 82 82 83 88 88 to 89 89 90 91 92 93 93 97 97 9? 97 101 102 102 102 105 106 106 107 107 107 108 • .ii^jkLji4ili ■. K-if flnil unofficial still;; conipcnsB- Dther iilands fBcial note from ; compensation le and Fisheries 'loff Islands ! In No. 130 bvernment res- Is under modus lauie suftgested ■nt accepted Article may be • • •• 9int Commission imenl respcctiii;; ken, and obser- • • • • sing for reply to I's note of the ng adoption of Agreement , . nt for reception llussian islands imbian Sealers' States' Govern- if 23rd July . . ommissioners to ' Government of seals taken iservations an limitation of j h thankg .. i constitution of I estimations coni- uml>er of ^eals TABLE OF CONTENTS. VU •No. Name. Hnle. SUIIJECT. Pac IS9 Hehrlnn's Sea Com- Oct. 21, isai Sends .Meiiioiial from V.incoiivi'r Sealers' nii'sinnvrs Anocialion, nni! rpply 108 160 Sir J. l'auncefot(< ■• 2 J, Si nils imipa reroi'iliiig mlnptiiin of ruven A rticli's of .Arbitration \grccnn'nt 109 161 To Colonial Office , . •• Nov. 2, Copy of No. luO. Asks views as to cons'.itu- tion of Arbitration Tribunal 112 162 To Sir J. Paunoefoie. . •• c, A]iproves -lote respecting seven Article? of Arbitration Agreement (sec No. 160) 112 163 To I3ehrin;('s Sea ,, 6. Approves reply to Vancouver Sealers' Associa- Commissioners tion (see No. 159) ll'i 164 •1 » . . 6. Acknowledges No. 137. .Approves pro- ceedings 112 I6S A(hnir»lty .. iO, Copy cf Uepoit friiin Commander-in-chief on I'ttcific '^tntion. Propoes to approve pro- ceedings of Cuniinanders of '• Nyniplii-," " Porpoise." and '' Pheasant " . . 113 166 Sir J. raiinccfolp IVIi'ur.iphic !f, Mr. Uliiine's views as to choice of Arbitrators anil place of fitting 116 167 To Admiralty •• 15. Coneiirs in proposal conveyed in No. IG5 117 168 Sir J. I'aiincefole .. IVIegmphic 21, Dati' iipnointetl for signature of the Aibitnition Agroiinent anil Joint Commission .Article. Sucge.strd headings for these Articles 117 169 To Sir J. Pauncefote. . Telegraphic 22, .Vntliorily to si^ii, ranking at the time two refervutions in regard to Clause 6 117 170 Sir J. Pauncefote , , • • 13, Copies of a narrative by a correspondent of the " New York Herald " of his voyage to Kehring's Sea. . 117 171 .. » Velegiaphic 24. Mr. HIaine's objections to reservations in No. i 60, and inquiry as to the cessation of sealing after 1st May, pending the adhesion of the other Powers 120 172 i> 11 •• Telegraphic 27, Mr. Blaine's replv to reservations in No. 169 (Inclosure ill No. 179, in/ra) .. .. 120 173 To Sir J. Pauncefote. . Telegraphic 29, Refers to No. 172. The first reservation may be waived. Suggests a provision tu be substituted for the second reservation 121 174 Sir J. Pauncefote . . 23, Copy of note to Mr. Blainr in sense of No. J 69 121 175 i» », . • Telegraphic Dec. 3, Substance of Mr. Blaine'i reply to proposal in No. 173 122 176 Behrins;'s Sea Com- missioners Nov. 25, Observatiotis on correspondence transmitted in No. 154 respecting the number of seals killed on the Pribyloff Islands during season of 189. in excess of 7.500 122 177 To Sir J. Pauncefote , , Di'c. 5, .Approves terms of No. 174 124 178 Sir J. Pauncefote •• Nov. 27, Further details of interview reported in No. 171 .. 124 m tt ti , • , , 27, Mr. Blaine's reply to note in No. 174 125 180 To Sir J. Pauncefote . Telegraphic Dec 7, Refers to No. 175. Her Majesty's Govern- ment agree to drop the second reservation nt this stage, retaining the right to raise the l)oint before the Arbitrators 126 181 Sir ,1. Pauncefote . . '■ Copy oi note to Mr. Blaine in sense ol No. 173 126 182 11 *» • • Telegraphic 10, Substoiice of Mr. Blaine's reply to No. 180. .**hall he sign Agreement subject to reserva- tion mentioned in No. 1. SO? 127 183 To Sir J. Paunctfote.. Telegraphic 11. .Authority to sign as suggested in No. 182 128 184 Sir J. Pauncefote Telegraphic H, Mr. lilaine's note objecting to any rf servation . 128 185 ToSir J. Pauncefote.. Telegraphic 16, Did not make any rescrviition. .Authority to sign the Agreement 128 186 Sir J. Pauncefote Telegraphic 17. Is addressing a note to Mr. Blaine a* instructed in No. 185.. 139 187 If If • • Telegraphic 18, Reports signature of Arbitration Agreement and Joint Commission Article 129 188 •» fi • • .* 10, Text of notes exchanged with Mr. Blaine on the subject of the proposed reservations to Article VI .. 139 189 H 1* •• ,. 10, Extract from President's Message to Congress. . 131 m It »l •• •• n. Note to Mr. lilaine in sense of Nos. 180 and 183.. .32 191 l» l» •• Telegraphic 22, Mr. Blaine's suggestion as to the ni'mber ol Arbitrators 132 mmmm' II fff^ M ■ i- m Ko. 193 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 301 303 203 304 305 1206 207 208 2C9 210 211 312 213 214 315 316 217 218 319 330 TABLB or CONTBNXa. N«in». Sir J. I'aiincerote D«ic. SUBJKCT. I>ll|, To Sir J. Paiincrfotp. Sir 3. Ptiinoefole To Sir (i. Dadrn- Powell To Behrin^'s Sea Com- miiaioneri Sir G. Baden- Powell.. Sir J. Pauneefote Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic i'elegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic .. jTelegrapliic llehrins's Sea Com- missioned Colonial OfBce Behring'9 Sea Com- missioners *• •' Sir J. Pauncefote To Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir J. Pauncefote To Sir J. Pauncefote.. Behring's Sea Com- missioncrn Lord Stanley c' Pres- lou to Lord Knuts- ford Sir J. Pauncefote Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic Telegraphic I'elegraphic Telegraphic Dec. Jan. Dec. •Tan. Feb. Jan. Feb. Jan. Fel> 15. l», IS. SO, 2, 23. 4, 13, 14. 14, IS. I. I. 29. 9, 10, 29. 1, 4. 5. 16. 17. 18, 20, 1?. •--3. 25, 1891 1892 1891 1898 Text iif Mr. Blaine's note of 14lh December, and of Sir J. Pauncsfote's reply . ■ Teat of note to Mr. Blaine of 18lh December. , lieports ■ignalurn of Arbitration Agrcv- nient nnd Joint Commission Arlirle Text of tlie seven Articles of the Beliring'n Sea Arbitration Agreement, and of the Joint Commission Article as signed To make it clear that Her Majestjr's Govern- ment urge the appointment of seven Arbitmtors . . . . . . Can any date be fixed fcr the meeting of the Joint Commission ? Joint Commission can meet tt the earliest dale permitted by the other public duties of the American Commissionert Census bulletin relating to marine mammalia fishing industry of United States.. President cannot consent to meeting of the Joint Commission until the remaining delaiU of the Arbitration Agreement are settled . . Mr. Blaine most anxious for the immediate meeting of the Joint Commission nt Washington ,, .. .. ,. Important that the British Commissioners should proceed to Washington at once Desirable that he should proceed to Washington as soon as possible Transmits Queen's Commission, and gives instructions . . Arrival at Washington with Dr. Dawson , , Heports arriral of British Commissioners Copy of note to Mr. Blaine of 21st January accepting proposal as to choice of foreign Arbitrators .. Ha^ forwarded a draft .<Vrbitration Convention embodying Joint Commission. Mr. Blaine pressing for renewal of modui vivendi Have begun informal meetings with American Commissioners . . Suggests consulting Cinadiar Government as to renewal of modut vivtnd' . . .. ' Acknowledges No. 203. Are proceeding to Washington .. .. .. ,, Report arrival at Washington Text of draft Arbitration Convention proposed by Mr. Blaine .. .. ,J Mr. Blaine pressing for another moiiw vivendi, to take effect from the expiration of the present one , . . . . . , . Draft Convention submitted to Law Officers. ' Entire prohibition of sealing does not seem necessary . . Mr. Blaine urges consideration of mcdus vivendi by Joint Commission. Can neces- sary authority be given? Joint Commission may eoniider modut vivendi, but Her Majesty's Government must reserve right of action . . . . . . Her Majesty's Government prepared to accept draft Convention in No. 313 subject to certain amendments . . Began formal meetings on lith February ..: Canadian Government have no information . showing necessity of modut vivendi. If Her .Majesty's (lovernnient have such information Canada would not object to xone of 25 miles, if accompanied by restrictions as to seslini; on land . . . . . . Communication made to Mr. Blaine in &ensc ot No. 214. Substance of his reply pressing tor modue vivendi ,. ,, I. 'la 131 1.14 136 i;j6 136 I3S 137 137 137 138 138 139 139 139 13» 140 140 140 141 Ml Nil • laeeting of the .. 1 the earliest date lie dutiea of the .. 1 larine mammalia jtatei . . . . I meeting of the remaining delaiU mtareiettled .. It the immediate Commission nt • • •• 1 Commissioners ton at once >ed to Washington ssioD, and gives >r. Dawson . , : immissioners I of 2 1 St January choice of foreign ration Convention lion. Mr. Blaine Jut vivtndi g» with American GoTernment as Lre proceeding to nvention proposed ler modut vivendi, 'xpiration of the .. Ml to Law Officers. ' me does not seem ^ .. 11-] ration of mcdus »ion. Can neces- .. m: ier madut vie0ndi, ment must reserve .. u: irepared to accept 213 subject to 'e no information , It vivtndi. If Her e such information tone of '25 milei, tioiis as to seolini; Blaine in sonsc ot his reply pressing TABU or COMTKNTR .!« ^(l. .N'ame. Date. Feb. 36, 189:; SUHJKCT. Page 3:21 Sir J. Pauncefote Telegraphic St'iiil!! verli'ilim |iiinigra|ili Iroiii .Mr. Blaine's nnit* ri-)'rrrvil to in nbovi' ... 1 44 'm »> 11 Telegraphic 26, Opinion I'f Mrilish Cuminisiioner!i us tn mudut vh'rndi. Nu serious risk of depletion this yi'iir, liut limited temporary measure rciom- nii'iMlcd 144 m To Sir J, Pauncefote. . Telegraphic 27, Iler Miijt'siy'a (iovernmeiil have nu Infnrina- tinn to show necessity of moitus rivmdi two yenrs running. Coniproniiso suggested in No. Ti'i may b ■ proposed 145 iH Sir J. Pauncefote Telegraphic 26i .Mr. lllnine learns that forty-six sealers have cleared for Hehring's Sea 145 22.-. i» tf • • Telegraphic 27, Convention will lie sipncd on Monday 146 •m 11 ti •• • • 18. Notes exchanged with Mr. Ulaiiio as to the melting of the Joint Comniission . 146 227 If »• 18, Correspondence with Mr. lllnine and the British Commissioners as to power of .loint Conimis- Kioii to diiiciiss the question of a modut Vivendi for next season . 1.50 228 n »• •• Telegraphic «9. Arbitration Convention signed. Shall exchange ut ratilicatiuns take place in Washington or l.iondon ? 151 229 To Sir J. Pauncefote.. Tolegraphic Mar. 1, Exchange of ratifications can be carried out more (juickly in Lonilon, To telegraph when Convention is approved by Senate 151 2,1(1 It i. . . 3. Approves proceedings reported in his despatch of l8th Pcbrniiry 152 ■.■31 Sir .). Pauncefote Feb. 28 President has issued the Behring's Sea Pro- clamation in the same terms ns heretofore . . 152 m Sir G.Haden- Powell.. Telegraph ic .Mar. 4, Have signed Joint Report to-day 163 m Sir J. Pauncefote Feb. 26, Text of notes summarized in Nn. 220 153 ■>n II II Telegraphic Mar. 8. Reply of United States' Guvernmeni to pro- posal in No. 223. Urges necessity for miiilua vivendi in order to preserve value of property pending arbitration 154 235 To Sir J. Pauncefote, . Tclepraphic d. To repeat above to (Jovernor-General of Canada 154 236 Sir J. Pauncefote Telegraphic Di Convention sent to Senate yesterday and referred to Committei on Foreign Affairs .. 154 2,17 II If •• • « 1. Test of iiute to Mr. Blaine in sense of No. 223 154 23.S Sir G.Baden-Powell.. Telegraphic 9, Expresses opinion that renewal of modus vivtndi, though not necessary, would be beneticial 155 239 Sir J. Pauncefote •• 4. Text of Behring's Sea Arbitration Convention as signed 156 240 To Sir J. Pauncefote. . Telegraphic 15, To repeat to Governor-Cieneral of Canada telegram from Sir G. Baden-Powell of 9th March 159 241 If II . . Telegraphic 18, Answers No, 234. Renewal of modut vivendi. .May give ground of complaint by British sealers if Arbitrators decide in their favour. Suggests thai sealing should be permitted to vessels giving security for any damages awarded by Arbitrators . 159 242 Lord Knutsford to Lord Stanley of Preston Telegraphic 18, To direct port authorities on Pacific to warn owners of vessels who have cleared, or are clearing, for Behring's Sea, thai they do so at their own risk 160 243 Sir J. Pauncefote ., . • 10, Note from Mr. Wharton of Stii March re- specting modus vivendi. Substance tele- graphed (see No. 234) . . 160 244 II « Teleijraphio 23, Comninniration made to United States' (io- vernmenl in sense of No. 241. Reply received stating that renewal of modus vivendi is the least that can be accepted, and that United States' Government must main- tain their rights . . 163 245 To Sir J. Pauncefote . Telegraphic 26. Two sltei native proposals by Iler Majesty's Government as to the conditions on which sealing might be prohibited this se.ison 165 246 •t .1 . . Telegraphic 26, Proposed form of reference to Arbitrators of question of damages .. .. 105 ' * m t I '\ I' I I 'ilL ■toii'.i 1 , m [572] I: I Til BLR OP CONTKNTB AIM'KNDIX. Namp, Date. SUBJKCT. Colonial Oftict- »W Mar. 2, INUi Dc»patch froiii Caniida, witli Ordrr in Coiinni. iind iiffidavitx from Briliuli ('oliiinl)iii n- '•ppctlnfr prlngflc Kcnlinn .. Iiiij I iLJ^^'o^.i^'t.jai/i Further Correspoiulence respecting the Behring Sea Seiil Fisheries. [In continuation of " United States No. 2 (1891) :" C. 6368.] J !■ No.l. Sit J. Pauneefote to the Marqwa of Salisbury. — (Received April 27.) I Jly Lord, Washington, April 15, 1891. I HAVE the honour to transmit herewith a copy of a note which I received yesterday from Mr. Blain«> in reply to your Lordship's despatch of the 21st Fehruary I last,* oF which I left a copy in his hands on the 3rd March. In this note IMr. Blaine states that the raoditications suggested by your Lordship I in the (juostions for arbitration do not wholly meet the views of the President, and he I sets out tlie questions in the form in which they are now proposed by him. For convenience of reference, I inclose a paper showing, in opi)osite columns, the jorii^inal six questions suggested by Mr. Slaino in his note of the 17th December last, i the questions, as altered and now proposed by him, on behalf of the United States' I Government. In his note transmitted herewith Mr. Blaine reverts to several points Iwliich have been long under discussion, and adduces further arguments in support of I his contentions. I have, &c. ' (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. 5' ! I * Inclosure 1 in No. 1. Mr. Blaine to Sir J. Pauneefote. I Sir, Department of State, Washington, April li, 1891. THE modifications which Lord Salisbury suggests in the questions for arbitration I do not wholly meet the views of the President, but the President changes the text I of the third and fifth in such manner, it is hoped, as will result in an agreement Ibetween the two Governments. While Lord Salisbury suggests a different mode of Iprocedure from that embodied in the sixth question, the President does not uiulor- Istand him actually to object to the question, and ho therefore assumes that it is la^cd to. The six questions as now proposed by the President are as follows : — 1. What exclusive jurisdiction in the sea now known as the Behring's Sea, and lihat exclusive rights in the seal fisheries therein, did Russia assert and exercise piuor |and up to the time of the cession of Alaska to the United States ? 2. How far were these claims of jurisdiction as to the seal fisheries recognized nd conceded by Great Britain ? 3. Was the body of water now known as the Behring's Sea included in the phrase "Pacific Ocean," as used in the Treaty of 1825 between Great Britain and Russia, nd what rights, if any, in the Behring's Sea were held and exclusively exercised by Kussia after said Treaty ? • «• ynitpd SM^s ^0, 1 (IB91)", p. 87. [572] P ■:i ' ' fi ^ ■■■HpiP ■| •1. Did not all the rinhts of Russia as to jurisdiction and as to tlio ponl (isliorii's in tlio Bolirin'^'s ISca eaat of the water Ijoundfiry in llic 'I'rcaty between tlii« Unitcil Slates and Hiissiu of tlie JJOtli March, 1807, pass uniniiKiired to tlio United Stites under tliat Treaty? 5. lias the United States any ri!»lit, and, if so, what rii,'ht, of jirofection or iirnpcity in the fur-soais frcqueutin>? the islmids of tlie United States in Jlehrinif's Sea when such seals are found outside tlie ordinary !l-niile limit 'r 0. If the determination of the foreifoinj,' <incstions shall leave th(> subject in such position that the concurrence of (iroat Britain is necessary in prescribinjEf llegulatiom for the killing of the fur-seal in any part of the waters of Behring's Sea, then it shall be further determined (1) how far, if at aH, outside the ordinary territorial limiti it is necessary that the United States should exorcise an exclusive jurisdiction in order to protect tlio seal for the time livintf upon the islands of the United States, and feeuinu therefrom ? (2^ whether a close season (during which the killing of seals ia the waters of Beliring » Sea outside the ordinary territorial limits shall be prohibited is necessary to save the seaMishini? industry, so valuable and imjiortant to mankind, from deterioration or d(>struction ; and. il' so, (,'{) what months or pai'ts of nidiitlul should be inehided in such season, and over what waters it should extend r The President does not object to the additional (picstion respeetini? alleged I damages to English ships proposed by JiOrd Salisbury, if one condition can be added, j namely, that niter tlie issues ol' tbc arbitration are joined, if the United Slates slial! prevail, all the seals taken by t'anadian vesseU during the period shall i)o ])ai(l for at the ordinary price for which skins are sold. 'I'liis seems to the President to be the complement of Lord Salisbury's proposition, and he doubts not that it will secure his Lordship's assent. In the llrst paragraph of Lord Salisbury's despatch of the 21st | February ^'e makes the following declaration ; — " It IS now quite clear that the advisers of the President do not claim Behrin^'s i Sea as mare clausum, and, indeed, that they repudiate that contention in express | terms." Lord Salisbury's expression is put in such form as to imply (whether he so I intended I know not) that the I'nitecl States had hitherto been resting its contention upon the fact that the Behring's Sea was mnrp clausum. If that was his intention, it would have been well for his Lordship to specify wherein the United States ever made the assertion. The omphatie denial in my despatch of the 17th Ueeeraber last was I intended to put an entl to the iteration of the chargCj and to eliminate it from the current discussion. I Lord Salisbury complains that I did not deal with certain protests, written bv Lord Londonderry and the Duke ot Wellington in 1822, which he had before quottd, [ If he will recur to the 2Uth and 27th pages of my despatch of the 17th December, liej will observe that I specially dealt with these; that I maintained, and, I think, proved I from the text that there Avas not a single word in those protests referring to the I Behring's Sea, but that they referred, in the language of the Duke of Wcllin!rton| of the 17th (Mober, 1822, only to the lands "extending along the shores of the I Pacific Ocean from latitude tU° to latitude 60" north. In the first paragraph oil Lord liondonderry's protest of the 18th January, 1822, addressed to Count Lieven, of I Russia, he alluded to the matters in dispute as " M/»ec(fl% connected with the territorial [ rights of the Russian Crown on the north-west coast of America bordering on thej Pacific Ocean, and the commerce and navigation of His Imperial Majesty's subjects iji| the seas adjacent thereto." Trom those and other pertinent facts it is evident that thel protests of Lord Londonderry and the ])uko of "Wellington had nothing whatever to J do with the points now in issue between the American and British Governments con-f eerning the writers of the Behring's Sea. They both referred in difl'crent, but substat-l tially identical phrases, to tlie territory soutli of tlie Alaskan Peninsula bordenD!] on tlie Pacific, and geographically shut out from the Behring's Sea. I regret that iiitI arguments on a point which Lord Salisbury considers of great importance should liavtl escaped his Lordship's notice, in Lord Salisbury's judgment the contention of tliel United States now rests Avholly upon the Ukase of 1821 by the Emperor Alexander ll of Russia. The United States has at no time rested its arguments solely on the groimil mentioned, and this Government regrets that Lord Salisbury should have so misappre-l hended the American position as to limit its basis of right in the Behring's Sea to tin Itkase of 1821. The United States has, among other grounds, insisted^ witlioi recurring to any of its inherited and superior rights in Alaska, that this GoTernD has as full authority for going beyond the 3-mile line in pase of proved necessity a Great Britain possesses. •• •' . : . ho yonl lisliovii-s in lhi> United Statcj , Stt'tos umlci' that itcetlon or jji'^iu'ity Jchviiig's Si'ii wlien the s(il)jpet ill such iribins UogulaiioM iring's Sea, then it ry totritorial limiti uriscliction in order Uuitcd States, and killing of seals in ilmll 1)0 proliibitcdi lortant to mankind, or parts of nidutlis :!Xl('ml r 1 vcspi-ctintr alleged ilition can •>(' aililod, United States slial! d shall 1)0 l>aiil for I'resident to lie the lat it will secure his I .espatcli of the 21st 1 not claim Beliring's I atention in express j ply (wlietlier lie so jating its contention was liis intention, it ted States ever made I December last was imiuato it from the protests, written by c had before quoted, e 17th December, lie and, I think, proved 'sts referring to the 3ukc of Wellington the shores of the first paragraph oi to Count Lieven, of id with the territorial ^a bordering on the Majesty's subiects in it is evident that the nothing whatever to 1 Governments con- ifferont, but sulistan- reninsulti bordering a. I regret that my )ortance should ha'' _ contention of the Imperor Alexander solely on the grouni dd have so misaiip*! Bohring's Sea to \^' is, insistedj witlii lat this Governro proved necessity a Two or Ibreo instances of the power which (Jreat Britain exercises beyond tho 3'miie lino iiiixe liivady lieeii tjiinteil, hut have fiiiied thuH far to secure connnent or ex|ilaiiati>iii IVoiu hold Salislmn. Aiintlicr case ciiii hr added wliieii, periiaps, is still more to tho point. In 1889, uiiiy two j(>arH ago, (lie Jliitisii Parliament enacted a Jiaw tho offect of which is I'ully iliowii liy a Map iiudosed herewith. I'"ar outside liie ;>-niile liiK! tiie Parliament of Great Britain has attempted to eontro! a body of water siliiated beyond tlio north-enstem section of Scotland, j,70l) s({uare niiies in extent, and to direct liiat certain methods of llsliing siiall not be uied within that great l)ody of water under a prcscrilxMl penalty. It will bo observed that the inhibition is not alone against Britisli subjects, but against "any person." I here quote the pertinent section of the Parlianicntury Act in question : — "7. — (1.) The Fisliiiig Board may, by llyc-law or Bye-laws, direct that the methods of fisliing known as ht;am trawling and otter trawling shall not be used witliin 1 line drawn from Duncansby ll(>ad, ('aithness, to Battiay Point, Abordeonshirc, in iny area or areas to bo dclined in sudi Bye-law, and may from time to time make, alter, and n!Vok(? By(!.Inws for the purposes of this section, but no such Bye-law shall bo of any validity until it has been (ioniirined by the S(!(!retary for Scotland. "(2.) Any i)iii;i)ii wlio uses any sueii ii;ethod of lisliing in contravention of any siicli liye-law sliall 1k> liable, on com iitioii under the Summary Jurisdiction (Scotland) .Vels, to a line not exceedio!,' •">/. lor tho lirst olfcuce, and not exceeding 20/. for the second or any subsequent olli'uce, and every net set, or attempted to be set, in contrav(>ntion of any such Bye-law may he seized and destroyed or otherwise disposed of as in tl.o i.tli scelion of tlii'^ Act mentioned." If Great Britain may thus control an area of 2,700 square miles of ocean on the coast of Scotland, why may not the United States prescribe a space around the Prihyloir Islands in whicli similar prohibitions may be in force? The following would be the needed legislation for such q, purpose by Congress, and it is but a paraphrase of the Act of ParliamiMit : — " The Fur Seal Board may, by Bye-law or Bye-laAvs, direct that tho methods of scaling known as spearing or harpooning, or with ilre-p is, shall not bo used within a line drawn from the shores of the Pribylotl" Islands 00 miles in tho Bohring's Sea ; and said Board may from time to time make, alter, and revoke Bye-laws for the purpose of this section ; but no such Bye-law shall be of any validity until it has been conlirni . by the Secretary of the Treasury. Second. Any person Avho uses any such inethoil i)f sealing in contravention of such Bye-laws shall bo liable, on conviction, to a fine not exceeding 100 dollars for the lirst oit'enco, and not exceeding 500 dollars for tho second or any subsequ(!nt oll'ence ; and every spear, harpoon, or liro-arin attempted to be used in contravention of any such Bye-law may bo seized and destroyed, or other- wise disposed of, as said Fur Seal Board may direct." It must not escape observation that tho area of water outside the 8-milo Hue on the coast of Scotland, whose; control is assumed by Great Britain, is as large as would be found inside a line drawn from Cape Cod to Portland Harboiu", on the Now England coast. Lord Salisbury reasserts his contention that tho words " Pacific Ocean " at the I time of the Treaty between Russia and Great Britain did include Bohring's Sea. lUndoubtedly the Pacific Ocean includes Bohring's Sea in the same sense that tho I.Vtlantic Ocean includes the Gulf of Mexico, and yet it would be regarded as a very linaccurato statement to sjiy that tho Mississippi River flows into the Atlantic Ocean. |l think Lord Salisbury fails to recognize tho common distinction between the I" Atlantic Ocean " and " the waters of the Atlantic." While the Mexican Gulf is not I part of tho Atlantic Ocean, it would, I am sure, comport with general usage to say Ithat it belonged to the waters of tho Atlantic, and, while Bohring's Sea is not sclmieally a part of the Pacific Ocenn, it undoubtedly belongs to the waters of the Pacilie. The English Channel would not ordinarily be understood as included in the Itcrni " Atlantic Ocean." One would not say that Dover or Calais is on the coast of fhc Atlantic Ocean, and yet dearly the English Channel belongs to the waters of the itlantic. In point of fact, therel'orc, according to the usage of the world, there is no pispute of any consequence between the two Governments on tho geographical point nder consideration. The histo ' -al point is the one fit issue. The explanatory note from bssia filed in the State Depart ent of this coimtry, specially referred to in Mr. John ^uiney Adams' diary and quote in my note of the 17th December, 1890, plainly draws ^distinction between the Pacific Ocean on the one hand, and the " Sea of Okhotsk, the t of Kamschatka, and the Icy Sea " on the other; and so long as Russia drew that [672] B2 ■I < ■y. 1 1 : 'I . if -' ,1 ¥k' li I ' .; i h ill '.J jf*.Xp*^-U'^jii>iiJifSX~^: taS^M!^ distinction it must apply to and must absolutely decide all the contentions between the two countries as far as the waters of the Behring's Sea are concerned. To discuss this point further would, in the opinion of the President, contribute nothing of value to the general contention. In the opinion of the President Lord Salisbury is wholly and strangely in error in making the following statement : " Nor do they [the advisers of the President] rely as a justification for the seizure of British ships in the open sea upon the contention that the mterests of the seal fisheries give to the United States' Government any right for that purpose which, according to international law, it would not otherwise possess." The Government of the United States has steadily held just the reverse of the position Lord Salisbury has imputed to it. It holds that the ownership of the islands upon which the seals breed, that the habit of the seals in regularly resorting thither and rearing there young thereon, that their going out from the islands in search of food and regularly returning thereto, and all the facts and incidents of their relation to the islands, give to the United States a property interest therein; that this property interest was claimed and exercised by Eussia during the whole period of its sovereignty over the land and waters of Alaska ; that England recognized this property interest 80 far as recognition is implied by abstaining from all interference with it during the whole period of Russia's ownership of Alaska, and during the first nineteen years of the sovereignty of the United States. It is yet to be determined whether the lawless intrusion of Canadian vessels in 1886 and subsequent years has changed the law and equity of the case theretofore prevailing. I have, &c. (Signed) J. G. BLAINE. Inclosuie 2 in No. 1. Sketch of North-Easlem Section of Scotland. Inclosuie 3 in No. 1. Original Six Questions suggested by Mr, Blaine in his Note of December 17, 1890. 1. What exclusive jurisdiction in the sea now known as the Behring's Sea, and what exclusive rights in the seal fisheries therein, did E.U8sia assert and exercise prior and up to the time of the cession of Alaska to the United States ? 2. How far were these claims of juris- diction as to the seal fisheries recognized and conceded by Great Britain ? 3. Was the body of water now known as the Behring's Sea included in the phrase " Pacific Ocean," as used in the Treaty of 1825 between Great Britain and Russia ; and what rights (if any) in the Behring's Sea were given or conceded to Great Britain by the said Treaty P i. Did not all the rights of Russia as to jurisdiction, and as to the seal fisheries in Behring's Sea east of the water boundary, in the Treaty between the United States and Russia of the 30th March, 1867, pi.ss unimpaired to the United States under tA>: .<, Treaty? 5. What are now the rights of the United States as to the fur-seal fisheries Questions as altered and now proposed by Mr. Blaine. 1. The same. 2. The same. 3. Was the body of water now knowj the Behring's Sea 'included in the pL " Pacific Ocean," as used in the Treat 1825 between Great Britain and llus^ and what rights (if any) in the Bebrji Sea wore held and exclusively exercinci Russia after said Treaty ? 4. The same. 5. Has the United States any right, 1 if so, what right, of protection or properi tentions between the led. To discuss this ihing of value to the strangely in ernir in 3 President] rely as a 3 contention that the at any right for that :wise possess." The erse of the position of the islands upon esorting thither and ds in search of food their relation to the that this property od of its sovereignty lis property interest } with it during the pst nineteen years of Canadian vessels in ;he case theretofore &c. J.G. BLAINE. nd now proposed bj) lame. water now knowr [uded in the pi scd in the Treat Britain and llusd ly) in the Behri| iusively exercinci Hates any right, itection or properl \ J^ 5a I? I: ^l»'i t ; tt I NORTH EASTERN SECTION OP SCOTLAND. TO FACE P 4-. Extract from CHAPTER 23. All Act to amend the Heiriiig FiBhciy (Scotliiiid) Acta ; and for other purposes relating thereto. [2fith .Inly, 18»(».] 7. — ('•) The Fishery Knunl laay. hv liyi'law nr byoIiiwH iluuct that the methiHlx of liHhiiis- kiH>wii oa btnim trawlinnf unci otter trawliiij^ whall nut be uhlhI witliin n lino drawn from DiiiininKby l[ead, in Caithnoss, to liattniy t'oini, in AlHM-deenshirc, in any area or aretts to be defineil in HUch liyelaw, and may fniiu time to time maicc. alter, and revoke byelaws for the purposes of this section, lint no such bye- law shall be of any validity until it has been cnnlirtned by the Secretary for Scotland. (2.) Any person who uses any such method of fishing ill contrnvcntion of any siich byulaw xhall bi' liiilile, nil conviction under tlie Summary JuriRdiction (Scotland) Acts, tn a fine not exceeding five pounds for the first offeiico. and not exceeding twenty pounds for the second or any sulweqiieiit offence ; and every net set or attemptei^ to be set, in C'lntravention of any such byehw may be sei/xsd and destroyed or otherwise disposed of as in the sixth section of this Act mentioned. mmmm ^w "W Original Six Questions, ^c, in the waters of the Behring's Sea outside of the ordinary territorial limits, whether such rights grow out of the cession by Russia of any special rights or jurisdiction held by her in such fisheries or in the waters of Behring's Sea, or out of the ownership of the breeding islands and the habits of the seals in resorting thither and rearing their young thereon and going out 'rom tho islands for food, or out ol' any other fact or incident connected with the relation of those seal fisheries to the terri- torial possessions of the United States ? 6. If the determination of the foregoing questions shall leave the subject in sucii a position tliat the concurrence of Great Britain is necessary in prescribing Regu- lations for the killing of the fur-seal in any part of the waters of Behring's Sea, then it shall be further determined : (1) How far, if at all, outside the ordinary terri- torial limits, it is necessary that the United States should exercise an exclusive juiis- diction in order to protect the seal for the time living upon the islands of the United States and feeding therefrom? (2) Whether a closed season (during which the killing of seals in the waters of Beliring's Sea outside the ordinary terri- torial limits shall be prohibited) is necessary to save the seal-fishing industry, so valu- able and important to mankind, from deterioration or destruction ? And, if so, (3) What months or parts of months should be included in such season, and over what waters it should extend P Questions as altered, ifc. the fur-seals frequenting the islands of the United States in Behring's Sea when such seals are found outside the ordinary 3-nn7e limit ? 6. The same. (For Additional Article see Mr. Blaine's note.) as t;) damages. . . ■ I I : . 1 jl^ No. 2. Mr, C. Hawkins to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received May 1 .) My Lord, The Olen, Avenue Road, Anerley, April 29, 1891. IN consequence of the negotiations being carried on between the United States' Government and our own to bring about a satisfactory settlement of the Behring's Sea Seal Fishery' questioi;, I beg to offer you the following facts, trusting they may be useful to you as emanating from one with a practical knowledge extending over a period of eighteen years. I also inclose herev*ith a cutting from the " Daily Chronicle " of the above date, which induces me to take this liberty, supposing the statement therein detailed to be correct. Since about the year 1885 we have received in this country large numbers of seal- skins known in the trade as north-west coast skins, the same having been taken in the open sea, and, from appearances that are unmistakable to the initiated, are exclusively the skins of female seals pregnant ; these are all shot, and I have been informed that for every skin recovered five or six are lost through sinking when struck by the shot ; this wholesale slaughter of the females will, in a short time, bring about the extermination of the seal in that district if not arrested. We, on the other hand, during my experience, have had annually large numbers of seal-skins from Alaska, and also from the Copper Island, which are kiUed by being clubbed on land, and are selected with judgment, being the skins of young male seals ; the older fighting and b/oeding males are spared. •■ ■■ •I k i ■ Ss; ^' : I '■ , ' I& ^ 1 ' 1 '■ :X- ■h IK i m^f^fm^mrnv^r^^ '^mi!t 6 I feel sure that this which I have written would be corroborated by the principals of the following firms, if applied to, or any others, with sufficient intelligence, who liave to deal with the akins in the salted state : — ^lessra. C. M. Lampson and Co., Queen Street City; Messrs. C. W. Martin and Sons, 4, Lambeth Hill, City, Mr. G. Rice, Gruat Prescott Street, Whitechapel. ■ ' I beg, &c, (Signed) C. HAWKINS. Inclosuro in No. 2. Extract from the « Daily Clironicle" of April 29, 18i)l. The Behkivg's Sea Fishehies. (From our Correspondent.) ' New York, Tuesilaii. ^OW that the "Sayward" case is postponed till Octol)or, much interest attaches to the question as to the steps that will be taken witli regard to the coming sealing season, The "Herald" says that from present indications, the sealing industry will be free to nil. In the summer the revenue steamers will proceed to the Behring's Sea, but with private orders to molest no vessel sealing beyond ;> miles from the shore. .Mr. Rlaine and Sir Julian Pauncefotc have for a week past been in negotiation in respect of a modns Vivendi for the season, bu<^^ they have not yet arrived at any conclusion. Professor Elliott, the Government expert, wishes for a suspension of marine .sealing for one or two years, as suggested by Lord Salisbury, but the Treasury has not given its assent to this proposal. The Treasury officials state that the Government lost 385.000 dollars in the revenue from the islands last year, by reducing the catch from 1 00,000 to 60,000 seals by way of precaution. There was, in addition, a loss of 375.000 dollars through the timidity of the Treasury Agent at the islands in stopping the killing of seals when only 21,000 skins had been taken. The lessees of the islands had expected to recoup themselves this year for last year's losses, and they are alarmed at the prospect of suspension this year. According to the present outlook, the total catch for the year will be little short of 300,000 seals. The "Boston Herald " says that the Honourable S. B. Elkins, who was Mr. Blaine's Manager in the Convention of ISSS, and tiic nominator of President Harrison, has, through his influence, stopped the Behrings Sea negotiations, which were about to terminate successfully. Mr. Elkins is largely interested in the Sealing Company, and when he heard that Great Britain had verbally promised to join the United States to put a stop to the killing of seals for one year, he proceeded to AVasliington and induced Mr. Blaine to postpone the Agreement to the auti.mn, so that his Company could secure the 00,000 seals allowed by the Contract. Sir Julian Pauncefote has discovered the underhand move, and, while addressing a remonstrance to Mr. Blaine, he has also hastened to put a proposal to him in writing, so that it cannot be ignored. No. 8. Colonial Office to Foreign Office.—(Received May 27.) Sir, Downing Street, May 27. 1891. I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 22nd instant,* forwarding copy of a despatch from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington inclosing copy of a letter addressed by Processor Elliot to the United States' Secretary to the Treasury, on the condition of seal life on the Pribylolf Islands during the sunnner of 1890. I am to observe, in reply, that this letter of Mr. Elliot's bears out in a remarkable Djianner the contention of the Dominion Government that the principal danger to the seal species arises not from pelagic sealing, which would appear to be comparatively iHUTnless, but fron. ill-regulatei killing on land. • " United States No. 3 (1891)," Appendix, p. 5t. < . ;: . . . / .. i HAWKINS. '^m^'mmmmmmi^^'ifmmmmmmiwimim'^'vs'yfr'. 1 In these circumstances, it is tor consideration whetlior Her Majesty's Government should not insist that the question of Uie t'aure regulation of scaling on land, as well as at sea should be taibmittcd to tiic projiosinl Arbitration Tribunal. In any case, Lord Knutsford is of opinion that an exhaustive joint inquiry should be made into the whole question, tiic results of which should be laid bofovO the Arbitrators to enable them to arrive at a sound decision. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BUAMSTON. . -l ■• ■• ■'■• ■ No. 4. '. •■ " Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received May 29.) ' . .• ' Sir. Downing Street, May 29, 1891. WITH reference to previous correspondence, I am directed by Lord Knutsfurd to transmit to you. to he laid before the ^larqllis of Salisbury, paraphrase of a telegram from the Governor-General of Canada, stating that the Canadian Government acquiesce in the proposed modus vivendi in Behriiig's Sea subject to certain conditions. I am, &c. (Signed) EDWARD WINGFIELD. r . • . * ■ Inclosm-e in No. 4. ' ;• ' , ''. ' Lord Stanley of Pteston to Lord Knutsford. (Telegraphic.) Ottawa, May 27, 1891. AVITH reference to my telegram of the 18th May, I forAvard the Minute of the Privy Council : — With reference to your telegrams of the 17th and 23rd instant, the Government of the Dominion accede to the proposition of Her Majesty's Government, provided that compensation be given to the scalers who may be prevented from prosecuting their avocation, and that the authorities of the United States accept at once the terms suggested by Her Majesty's Government, and concurred in by the Dominion Govern- ment in August last, as an essential part of the same Agreement. As, however, the Canadian Government does not possess the means of giving the proposed warning, and as the time for dciig so appears inadequate, the Domiriioii Ministers cannot undertake to be answerable in the event of such warning proving inefl'ective. There would be ample time to give due notice to all concerned if an alternative suggestion to the proposals referred to were made for a close season next year. No. 5. ..;.:»•;:■'...... The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R. Morier. ^-•;-; • '. .".:.: (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, June 2, 1891. ASK tlie llussian Government whether they would be disposed to join in an Agreement which has been proposed by the United States' Government and accepted by Her Majesty's Government for a suspension until May 1892 of seal hunting in the islands and waters of 3ehring's Sea . It is believeil tliat an engagement will be entered into by both Powers to do their best to prevent their respective subjects and citizens from taking part in seal hunting, with the exception of a catch of 7,500 seals destined for the support oT the Aleuts in the service of the North American (Jommercial Company. The Agreement cannot, of course, be signed unless Russia is prepared to adhere to it. \ r I ', n ui iM ft i r I ■ I f •r , 'V i j .; ;l , ! ■ ! ^'i i 1 ' S "., , m^tm ■ I I I I ^m. HPT' . iip..i,iij.. 8 No. 6. The Marqtiis of Sali:'->ry to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Tcle>fraphic.) Foreign Office, June 2, 1891. I HAVE to instruct you to make the following proposals to the United Stntcn' Government with regard to a modus vivendi in Behring's Sea : — (. The two Governments to prohibit, up to ^lay 1892, the killing of seals in Behring's Sea or any of the islands thereof, and to insure, to the best of their ability, that this prohibition shall not be infringed by their subjects, or by vessels flying their respective Hn^s. 2. During the time named the United States shall have the right to kill 7,500 ^cals. 3. An exequatur will be granted by the United States' Government to any Consul who may at any time be appointed by Her Majesty's Government to the islands in Behring's Sea. 4. The above Convention shall not come into operation unless the assent of Russia is given to it. No. 7. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received June 2.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, June 2, 1S91. I HAVE received your telegram of to-day. I will lose no time in acting on your Lordship's instructions. With reference to clause 1, I beg to observe that the proliibi. tion extends to the whole of Behring's Sea, and I apprehend objection on the ground that the United States' Government is not empowered by Act of Congress to proiiibit sealing beyond that part of it which, they contend, is, by virtue of their Treaty with Russia, " within the dominion of the United States." '■' ■ ■.'*■ . No. 8. '■_'-■, The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. • (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, June 2, 1891. WI'rH reference to your despatch of the 16th April last, I nave to request you to inform the Government of the United States that Her Majesty's Government are prepared to assent to the first five points which Mr. Blaine proposes should be submitted to arbitration in his note of the 14th April. Her Majesty's Government are unable to assent to the sixth point. They propose as an alternative the appointment of a Commission consisting of four experts, of wliich two should be nominated by Great Britain, and two by the United States, and of a Chairman nominated by the Arbiters. This Commission to examine and report on the following question : — What international arrangements, if any, between Great Britain, the United States, and Russia, or any other Power, nro necessary for the puqjose of preserving the fur-seal race in Behring's Sea from extermination ? With regard to the question of compensation. Her Majesty's Government propose the following Article : — "If it shall be shown to the Arbitrators that seal-hunters, subjects of either Power, have been damnified in the pursuit of that industry by the action of the other Power, it shall be competent for the Arbitrators to award such compensation to the said subjects as in their judgment shall seem equitable." No. 9. The Marquis of Salisbury to M. de Staal. M. TAmbassadeur, Foreign Office, June 2, 1891. I HAVE the honour to inform your Excellency that Her Aftjesty's Government )}ftve ftjifre^d to a j»ropo8ftl jftf^^ (o tbe>» b^ the Gpyen)tnent of the ynit^d St»t«8 tbft{ it to kill 7,500 9 seal Imnting slioiild be suspended in the ialiitidn and wiiters of Bohrinn's Sen until Mny 1892. Wc believe that an engnscinent "ill be entered into by botb Powers to do tlieir I kst to prevent their subjects and eitizens Ironi takinj,^ part in tiio seal buiitiuji', exception Lilly beinff made (or a eatcli of 7,oOO destined lor tiie subsistcnee ol' the natives in the service of tbc Alaska Company. A proposal lias been made to tl;c United States' 1 (iovernment to that effect. Tills Arranjjement cannot be ])ut in force without the adherence of the Uussian I Government, and the Agreement will not bo signed until this has been obtained. Her Majesty's Ambassador at St. Petersbur^li has been instructed by telegrapii to make a comiiiunication in the above sense to M. do Giers, and to express our earnest hope liiat the Uussian Government will consent to a measure which appears to be necessary iu [order to prevent the early extermination of the fur-seal. I have, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. sent of Russia is No. 10. Sir J. Paunccfote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received June 3.) I (Telegraphic.) Washinalon, June .*}, li=^!)l. 1 HAVE to-day communicated to the Acting Secretary of State, in the form of iMeinoranda, the substance of your Lordship's telegrams of yesterday's date, relative to iBehring's Sea, which I received last night. tl' \' ')• ' emment propose 2Jo. 11. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir E. Malet. |8ir, Foreign Office, June 3, 1891. HER Majesty's Government have agreed to a proposal made by the United States' iGovernment for the suspension for one year of seal hunting in the islands and waters of IBehring's Sea; and have expressed their readiness to enter into an Agreement whereby llhe two Governments shall prohibit the killing of seals up to iMay 1892, and shall under- |l>ke to use their best endeavours to prevent tlie infringement of the prohibition by their ispective subjects and citizens or by vessels flying their respective flags, with the Inception of a catch of 7,500 seals destined for the support of the Aleutian islanders in Ike service of the North American Commercial Company. The Russian Government have been invited to join in the Arrangement. It has been suggested tiiat it woiid be desirable to obtain the concurrence of the |Gcmmn Government in the suspension of seal-taking on the ground that the German lias appeared on fishing-vessels in the Behring's Sea. According to the ]{epoit of fc Canadian Minister of Marine for 1889, it appears that one such vessel was engaged 1 fisliing during that year. I should wish you to ascertain whether the interest taken by the German Govern- |ient in the seal fishery is such as to make it advisable to invite their concurrence in the ispension. . I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 12. Sir R. Morier to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received June 4.) .,, ^ , .^ fdegraphie.) St. Petersburgh, June 4, 1891. I HAVE this day communicated to M. de Giers a note in the sense of youf [ordsliip's telegram of the 2nd instant. I am informed that his Excellency has not yet aid from the United States' Government on tlio subject. ; 1 I I' !tri' [572J No. 13. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Morquin of Salisbury,— •iRi'ceiied June 4.) (Tclcgrapliic.) tVaxhiiKjlon, Jiiiiv -l, is'.ti, WITH reference to your Lordship's telej^rntn of tlie 2ntl instaiit, coiiliiiiiiii<r the drnt't of a, mndds livrndl in llolirinjf'H Sea, I liavo the honour to inform yoiitliutl have to-day received a re[)ly to your Lordsliip's proposal from tlio Acting Seeicimy df IState, whicli is to the following eil'ect : — [Sec text of Mr. Wharton's note of tlio 4tli .Func in Sir Julian Pauncefote's despulch ot the 5th .lune, 1891: Inclosuro in No. 40, infra.] No. 14. The Marquis of Salisburi/ to Sir R, Morier. ('relcifraphic.) Forcifjn Office, Jtinn C), 1^:)I. 1 llAVH received your telcjfrani of yesterday. We should be ulad if M. dc Gier* would inform us of iiis views with rei^ard to tlio I proposed Agi cement for the preservation of liie seals in Behrini>'s Sea without waitin: to receive a communication from the Government of tlic United States on the sul)je(;t. No 15. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telcfrraphic.) Forriyn Office, June o, If^Ol. lIEIi IMajesty's Government have had under their consideration tlie countcrJ proposals of the President uf the United States for a modus vivendi in Behring's Sea, a; reported in your telegram of the 4th instant. They agree to accept the proposal, tiiat ollicers of either Government may seize am hand over to their national jurisdiction otlcnding vessels umlcr either flag. We thus give power to cruizers belonging to the United States to supcivise tlii conduct of Englishmen in keeping the inndii.-! virciidi at sea. On the other hund ouglit to receive corresponding powc liom the United States of supervising tlie [m^ cccdings of Americans on the islands resorted to by the seals. The equality of proposed Agreement is dependent on the lidelity witii which the Americans oliseive condition, that not more than 7,500 seals shall be killed. In tlic opinion of Her Majo-ty CJovernnient. it is indispensable that the right should be reserved to them of satisiyinj themselves that this condition is fully observed. If the United States' Government object to the appointment of a permanent llritisl Consul on the islands, they can, under their Statute, specially autiiorizo the prosenci there during the ])rescnt fishing season of aliridsh agent. Her Majesty's Government will not insist that Russia shall he a party to the jjioposei modus virendi. But I earnestly press upon the United States' Goveriunent the exloibioj of the prohibition to American ships over the whole of Behring's Sea; in that casi Her Majesty's Government will similarly e\tend the prohibition to British sliips. If it is lawful tiiat seals may be hunted on one side of an imaginary line in the opei ocean while it is unlawful on the other side, it will, in many cases, be impossible to proi the fact of unlawful sealing, or to infer from the possession of skins or tackle that it h taken place. It is, in the opinion ox" Her Majesty's Government, of great importance that Agreement should be arrived at as to the terms of the arbitration at the same time tli! the modus vivendi is arranged. Wc should be unable to repeat the suspension of seal fishing operations for another year. oxisliiig limitati lias l)eei reach. needed niiich our citiz An; conditio: all appe and cert detrimer States. I ai given to An( and will approprii b ■IP ioto's despatch ut 11 No. 10. S!r J. Pnuncefotc to thn ^fnl•(lu^3 of SaltHhury.'^iRer.rii'Pu June 0.) lTeli'i:rnpIii('.) Wnshhitjtnn, .haw 0, 1S91. 'I'lliS morniiijc I delivered to llio Acting Secretary of State a MeiiKirnmlimi coin* nniiiicntiiii!; (tie coiitontH of your fiordsIiip'H telegram of yesterday, and I liave just rceiivcd a reply to t!iu following- etl'ect : — [Sco text of Mr, Wliarton's note of the Oth Juno in Sir Julian Paunccfotc's dcflpatch of the Oth June, 1891 : Indosurc in No, 47, infra.'] No. 17. Sir J. Pnuncefotc to the Marquis of Salishury.—-{Received .Tune 8.) MvLord, Washimjton, May 2f^,l^0l. I IIAA^'E the honour to inclose copy of a note which I have received from Mr. Adeo, .\('tins Secretary of State, expressinu; the earnest desire of the President for an early ropimse to the proposal contained in Mr. IJlaine's note of the 4th instant for a modus miuli during tlie coming sealing season in Beliring's Sen. Mr. Adee, as your Lordship will perceive, informs me oi the departure of the L'nifcd States' revenue-steamer " Rush " for the sealing islands and of the approaching sailing of the '• Corwin " for the same destination. 1 have also the honour to inclose copy of tlio reply which I have returned to Mr. Adce's communication. I have, fee. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTF. Inclosure 1 in No, 17. Mr. Adee to Sir J. Pauncefote, Sir, Department of State, WaxhintjtOT), May 26, 1891. IN my personal note of the 20th instant, and on several othc" occasions mi oral oomnniiiication, I have had tlie honour to express the desire of the President to be int'ornied, at the earliest possible moment, of the response of llcr Majesty's Government to till' propo>al. which formed the subject of Mr. Blaine's note to you of the •Ith instant, lliat seal-taking on the islands and in the waters of Ikliring's Sea be limited, as in said note ex])icssed, as to citizens of tlie United States and -ubjects of Great Britain, pending the ail)itrati()n of certain iiiicstious in controversy between the two Governments. In several interviews with you since the 20th instant, the desire of the President for an early response to the note of the ith May has been reaffirmed. The situation evidently calls for prompt action. Each day's delay increases the existing diilerepce in the ability of the respective Governments to make the proposed limitation of seal-taking effective. It is reported that a large fleet of Canadian sealers has l)een for some weeks or months on the seas. They are daily going further out of rcacii. The rcvcnue-cruizers have awaited definite orders. Their presence is urgently needed in the Beliring's Sea. Any farther delay tends to defeat the very purpose for ivhich the Agreement is sought. It is quite incompatible with fairness and justice to our citizens that this should be permitted to continue. Ample opportunity has been atforded to Her Majesty's Government to bring this condition to a close by an effective Agreement ; but the result is still uncertain, and to all appearances remote. The President would be glad to know that it is near at hand and certain ; but he can no longer hold back, in furtherance of a vague hope, to the detriment of the legitimate interests of the Government and citizens of the United States. I am, therefore, directed by the President to inform you that orders have been given to the revenue-steamer " Rush " to proceed to the sealing islands. Another revenue-steamer, the " Corwin," is at San Francisco, nearly ready to sail, and will very shortly put to sea. Should an Agreement be reached before her departure, appropriate orders may still be sent by her to the islands. I mention this, in order that [572] C 2 H : !■ ' i f .f«l»ll|f»UM MPHDi 12 ynu m»y romprohcnd how fully this rrovornmont desires to offeet an »rr»np;oni(«nt for this Hoasoti, mid tliiit yon iimy n-iili/.o liow ouch day's dcky Ioshohh the ability ot' llcr Miyii'Hty's (Jovoriinit'iit, to oll'oi'tivcly co-oijoriito nitli rojjjard to Uritish Hubjocts, oml tcniis to ilostioy tlio iiiactioiil utility of an Aufrecincnt (o limit the Hcal cateli. I liavL', &c, (Sij,'i)i'd) ALVKY A. ADKK, ActiiKj ^rcretiini. liu'losurc 2 in No. 17. Sir J. Pauncefotc to Mr. Adrr. Rlr, ll'asliiiit/tnn, .\f(t!i'2', \>i'.\\, I 11 AVI' Ilk" honour to nokiiowli'dijo Iho rocoipt of yoiu' note t)f yosterdiiys date, and to infonr. you (hat I liavo coinnuinicateil tho sulwtancc of its contonts to tb Manpiis of Sali^hury Ity tcli-fjiani. 1 feol asHurcil that his riordsliip will prcatly rv<^ni any inconvcniiMico whicli may he <'ausc>d to your (Jovcinmcnt hy the impraoticahility of roturniiifj; an imn\i'diato reply t(» the proposal eontainod in Mr. Blaine's note to nio of tho 4th instai\t. Lord Salisbury, as I had tho honour to state to you verbally, is usinjj the utmost expedition, but the lateness of the ])roposnl and the eonditions attached to it have sivon rise to ;;nive didicultics, as to which his Lordship has necessarily been in conmiunication with the (Canadian tiovernmcnt. Ilis reply, however, may now arrive at any nionunt. 1 have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 18. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received June 8.) Sir, Downing Street, June 8, 1801. I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before t':ie Maniiiis of Salisiiury, a copy of a letter from the Acting High Commissioner for ('iiniula, forwarding' co])y ol a telegiam from the Hritish ("olunil)ian IJoard of 'J'rade, protesting against the proposed ])robibition of sealing in Hebring's Sea this season. Lord Knutsford proposes, with fiOrd Salislmry's concurronce, to inform the .\ctini; High ('onnnissioner, in rejdy, tiiat, as the total cessation of sealing in Hehring's Sea will greatly enhance the price of the produce of the coast lishery. Her Majesty's Government do not anticipate that Hritish sealers will suffer to any great extent by exclusion fiom Bebring's Sea ; but that they will be prepared to consider any case in which it is clearly established that loss l;as been suH'ered by a Ikitish subject through the enforcement of | the prohibition. I am, &c. (Signed) 11. H. MEADE. Inclosure in Xo. IS. Mr. Calmer to Colonial Of ice. Victoria Chamber.'', 1", Viclnriu Street, London, 81r, ./hhp M, 18!)1. I AM directed by the High Commissioner to quote, for tlic information of Her I Majesty's Grovernment. the following telegram which has been received from Mr. lJobe'1 Ward, the President of the British Columbia Board of Trade : — " British Ccdumbia Board of Trade respectfully asks you protest strongest possible | manner a'zainst proposed legislation prohibiting Britisli sealers Behring's Sea this season. Sealing fleet equipped and cleared months since at heavy outlay. Result peremptory I prohibition serious injustice and ruin to many cngaginl in industry here." ' 1 am, &c. ' (Signed) J. G. COLMER . -^■a-t..*j.i>oat,.^tt.^j.. AUNCEFOTE. {. H. MBADR. I Street, Lonfloii, G. COLMER mm 11 No. 10. Sir R. Morier to the Marquis of Salinbury, — {Received June H.) (Tclcffmphic.) 81. Peteri,hur(jh,jHne B, \HQ\. 1 HAD n lonjy ronvorsntion yoHtordny with M. ilo fJiorH iit hit* country place in Finland, relntivo to the proposod AKri'^'iiiont hctwocii tlic (iovcriimontH of (Sroat Britain ami tlio Unitctl Sliitos for tli»! i)rotcction of Hcnl-liuntinf? in the iHlan»l» tnil waters of tho lidirinyj's Hon. His ICxcclloncy's vicwH witli ro^jiird to tho proposal Brt' entirely in accord with tlm^o of Her Majesty's (Jovcrnment, hut it appears tliat the ijiicstion in not treated of liy him, hut hy tlu! Minister of Domains, wiio lins just torniinated ncpotiations for a eontnicl with an intluentinl Kuhho- American Heal ComiJany. His Kxcellency informed me (hat ho would do his utmost to persiuiilo his cidicaf^uc to npjree to tho proposal, and he expressed tlie hope that he would ho ftl)Ie to give me a final anHwcr dunnjf the coniinfj; week. No. 20. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Paunne/ote. (Tcloffraphie.) Foreign Office, June 8, 1801. HFill Mnjoaty's (rovernment have had under consideration the counter-proposalH of the President of the United States for a modus vivendi during' the present soal-fidhing season in Behring's Sen, as reported in your tele;jram of the Otii instant. I have to inform you that they are prepared to assent to a draft Agreement drawn up in the terms which you will receive in my i'urther telegram of to-day. No. 21. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, June 8, 1891. THE following Articles of Agreement contain the terms to M'hich Her Majesty's Government are prepared to assent for the estahlishment of a modus vivendi in Behring's Sea, You are authorized to suhniit them for the consideration of the fJovcrnment of the United States : — "For the purpose of nvoiding irritating differences, and with a view to promote friendly settlement of tlie (piestions jjeruling hctween the two Governments touching their respective rights in l^ehring's Sen, and for preservation of seal species, the following Agreement is inadc without prejudice to the rights or claims of either party: — "1. Her Majesty's Government will prohibit until May next seal-killing in that part of Behring's Sea lying eastward of the line of demarcation described in Article I of the Treaty of 1807 between the United States and llussia, and will promptly use best efforts to insure observance of ])rohibition hy British subjects and vessels. " 2. If the United States' Goverimient will prohibit seal- killing for the same period in (he same part of Behring's Sea, and on the shores and islands thereof the property ot tho United States (in excess of 7,500 to he taken on the islands as food .skins, and not for fax and shipment), and will promptly use best efforts to insure observanc" of prohibi- tion by United States' citizens and vessels. " 3. Every offending vessel or person may he seized and detained by the naval or other duly commissioned officers of either of the High Contracting Parties, but they shall be handed over as soon as practicable to the authorities of the nation to which they respectively belong, who shall alone have jurisdiction to try the offence and impose the penalties for the same. The witnesses and the proofs necessary to establish the offence shall also he sent with them. " 4. In order to facilitate such proper inquiries as Her Majesty's Government may desire to make, with the view to the presentation of the C.n.se of that Government before Arbitrators, and in expectation that an agreement for arbitration may be arrived at, it is agreed that suitable persons, designated by Great Britain, will be permitted at any time, upon application, to visit, or to remain upon, the seal islands during the present sealing season for that purpose. ^W^ I ? . h; 1 { ; r^ \ ' i 1 1 ■ ! f ■ i'':i i 1- ' ii lii 1 11 ■1 11 fffi 11 ""ffnn^ippv.itf.uiqi.pyi. I'i 14 " ti, A CommisHion of four experts, two nominated hy oacli Government, mid a Clmirnmn nominated hy (ho Arltitrators if npiminted, and if not by tlio nforesuid f'oi.imis, HionorH, sliall exaniin(> and report on tlic followitijnf (pic lion : — " Wlint intornationnl nrninnoinpnls. if any, liclwocn Great Britain, United SInli's, nnd T?nwsia, or any otiier Power, are necessary for tlie jmrpose ot presorvinj? tlie ('iii-;(m1 race in tlie Nortliern Pacific fnttM extermination ? " (i. The Government of tlio I'nited Slates will join with that of llcr MdjcslN in reqneslinji' Ilnssia to forbid her suhjeetM from sealini; to the euHi. of the line indiciitcd in Article 1 of the present Agreement ut\til tho Ist May, IS!)2." No. 22. Sir J. Pminccfote to the Marquis of Salisbury.'— (tircnvcil June 8.) (Telegraphic.) fVasliiiH/ton, June H, IH{)\. I HAVE to-day delivered a note to the Aclino; Secretary of State comnnniicnlin,'; to him, with the recpiest that he will snhmit it to his (Jovcrnincnt for their considciMtion, the draft Agreement for a j/iof/i/s riVrHf/i eontaii\ed in yonr Lordship's telegram of lo-ilny. No. 23. Sir J. Paunccfote to the Marquis of Salishtmj, — {Received June 9.) (Tclegra])hie.) Washington, June 9, 1B!)1. Tin-' draft; of a note in answer to tho proposals for a inmtus vivendi contained in your Lordship's telegram of yesterday, which will bo addressed to mc to-morrow, has just been shown to me. Tho words in Article 2 "as food skins, and not for tax and shipment," arc objected to by the President on the grotmds that such a prevision would preclude tho export ami sale of tho skins for tho purpose described in Mr. Blaine's note of tho 4tli May, i.e., to cover the cost of clothing, food, and fuel for tho native inhabitants of the islands. The President insists on tlie limitation of the power of seizure provided for in Article 55 to the waters " outside the ordinary territorial limits." On this point 1 beg to refer your Lordship to my telegram of the (ith instant. He objects to tho p -ovision in Article 5 for the appointment of a Joint Commission as having no jiroper jilace in the modus rirendi, but he will give the suggestion " a full consideration in connection with tlio negotiation for arbitration," Article (>, as to a joint note to Russia, is olijected to on tiie ground that, westward of the line of demarcation, the United Slates' Government has no jiower to agree to reciprocal action if Russia should make it a condition of adhesion. The note concludes by stating that the President is prejiared to sign at once th'? first four Articles proposed by your Lordship, with the omission in Article U and the additional clause in Article 3 specified above, if the xVgreement can be immediately put into I'oroe. I fear that lack of time will jirevcnt us carrying tho negotiation further, but T will use my best otTorts to induce the United States' t^overnment to agree positively, as one of the terms of arbitration, to a provision for a Joint Commission. No. 24. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R. Morier, (Telegraphic.) Foreian Office, June 9, 1901. IN consequence of the existing statutory limitations to the powers of the United States' Executive, Her Majesty's Government propose that there shall be a close time in Behring's Seii for this season on land and sea only, to the east of the line of 1867. They are only asking, therefore, that Russian subjects shall be forbidden during this year from sealing to the east of that line by sea, as Russia has no land to the east of it; and that we shall be allowed to stop vessels sailing under the Russian f "vp ftliich are so employed. But as the United States' Government maintain that they have i right ■tij^ mp 'mmmmmm IB to oxcludo all HJiipH oi whatever nation from tliat part of ]iuhring'u Sea, thoy cau hardly join in tliirt re(|uost withont Htnltit'yin^ theniHelveH. A cloHe time to the east of the lino in the roHiilt will also recruit I'no Hcal fiHlicry to the went of it, and RuHsia, therefore, will lind her interest in ttccedinj; to our rcquoKt. No. 2fi. The Marquis of Salinbury to Sir J. PauncrJ'oic, (Telei^fraphic.) ' Forciijn Office, June 10, 1891. lU'jllltlNCI'S SUA mo(JuK Vivendi 1 liavo received your tele|i>ram of yesterday. We assent to the insertion in Article .'> of the words, " outside ordinary territorial liiiiitH," nnd also, tliou{;h reluctantly, to the omisHiou from Article 2 of the words, "as food skins, and not for tax and shiinnent." We cannot, however, consent to leave tlio Jrint Coinmission in 'IomM. It may be R'l'orded in the form of a sepiirate note; but if the United States will not af^rce in piinciple that inijuiry shail he made by a .Foint C)omnu."-ion as to what permanent iiK'iiHures, il' any. are necossiiry for (he preservation of the seal species, it is useless for us to involve our people in the inconvenience and cost which a close time for this year tvoulil ontiiil. The inodiis vivvndi is rendered much less valuable by the reply of the President with ri'!i«rd to Kussia. mm-- 1"! "K- ! No. 20. Sir J. Pauncefole to the Marquis of Salisbury, ^'{Received June 10.) (Tclen;raphic.) Washington, June 10, 1891. WliMI reference to my telegram of last night, relative to JJchring's Sea, I have liic honour to inform your f>orilshi|< that I called this morning on Mr. Wharton, tlic Actinfi: Secretary of State. 1 explained tliat the words, "food skins, and Jiol for tax ami siiipnionl," had been inserted in Arti(rle 2 for the pm'pose, not of preventing the sale of tiie 7,riOO ntal-skins, but of ])r()hihiling the ])roceHS which has been described by the United Sralcs' agents as the chief cause of the depletion of male seal life, namely, (lie drivinji and re-diiving for scleclion. I was informed that the l^residenL still objects to the words, but that he woidd jjrohably agree to the substitution of the phrase, " to cover the cost of food, fuel, clothing, and other necessaries for the natives," which I suugested in order that the humanitarian object of the reservation might appear on tlie face of the document. I ifresnme that your Tjoidship will not object to the substitution of this phrase, or to the insertion in Article -') of the words, "outside the ordinary territorial limits." Shoulil your [jordship have no oi)jection to these alterations, I venture to urge strongly that J may be i once author,'/.ed to sign the Agreement for a modus vivendi, to consist of till- ])reamble a 'id the tirst tour Articles, as contained in your Lordship's telegram of the 8lh inst.uit, witli thi> alterations given above, and the omission, which is ai;roed to by the State Department, of the last portion of Article 3, relating to the application of tines imposed by the Courts, this not being provided for in the Bciiring's Sea A(!t just jjassed. Mr. Wharton assures me that the settlement of the terms of arbitration will be greatly expedited by the immediate signature of the Agreement, and he expresses the opinion that a Joint Commission may be rendered practicable this year by our siffuing at once. ... . i;- . , No. 27. Sir J. Pauncefole to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Received June 10.) ('I'elegraphic.) Washington, June 10, 1891. WITH reference to my telegrams of jcstcrday and to-doy respectively, I have the honour to inform your Lordship thiit I received the official note to-day the draft of which was shown me last night. It is identical with the draft, except that in Article 2 the it.±^k.Ui*ijt,..Jili: . mmmmmmmm >l\ : I ' i; 16 words, "I'or the subsistence and care of the natives," have been inserted after "in excess of 7,500 seals to be taken on the islands." No. 28. Sir R. Morier to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received June 10.) (Telegraphic.) St. Petersburyh, June 10, 1891. WITH reference to your Lordship'-s telegram of yesterday, 1 presume that, if we claim right to stop ships under Kussian flag catching seals to the cast of tlie 18G7 line, we are prepared to allow Russia, under similar circumstances, to stop our own ships. No. 29. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R. Morier. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, June 10, 1891. THE answer is " Yes " to the question asked in your telegram of to-day. No. 30. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Ojfiic •»>; .., ^891. I HAVE laid before the Marquis of Salisbury your lettc of the 8th inataat, inclosing a protest from the Board of Trade of British Columbia agai ist the proposed prohibition of sealing in Behring's Sea during the present season. I am to state, in reply, that Lord Salisbury concurs in the answer which Lord Knutsford proposes to return to this communication. I am, &c. (Signed) P. CUKRIE. No. 31. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote, (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, June 11, 1891. BEHKING'S Sr \ modus vivendi. Before you can be authorized to sign the Agreement, as suggested in y jur telegram of yesterday, you must obtain a written assurance in some form from the Or ' . States' Government that they will agree to the proposed reference to a Joint Coroiii' it yv^ of Experts. No. 32. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Received June 11.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, June 11, 1891. I J^OST no timp in addressing a note to the Acting Secretary of State in the sense your Lordship's telegram of to-day relative to Behring's Sea. This afternoon I received a reply in the iollowing terms : — "The United States' Government, recognizing the fact measures for the protection of seal life should embrace the portions of the North Pacific Ocean, will have no hesitancy ii with Her Majesty's Government, to the appointineiit of a Joiiu what permanent measures are necessary for the preservation of the seal species in the waters referred to ; such an Agreement to be signed ■iimiilL.in'; n;sly with the Convention for Arbitration, and to be without prejudice .o the q-Kiitioxis to be submitted to the Arbitrators. Ao that full and nd ; ii.i';^ Behring's iSeA -.; i :<"• eing, in conn;' Joiiimission to asceri..ii jwuld be jlave spe iHinistcfs ted after "in " A full reply to your note oi the 3rd Ji'ne relating to the terms of arbitration will aot be long delayed." (The note of the 3rd June quoted above conveyed the sense of your Lordship's lelcgram of the 2nd June.) On receipt of this reply, which was handed to me by Mr. "Wharton, I expressed my regret and disappointment at the stipulation contained in it that the Agreement for a Joint Commission should be signed simultaneously with the Convention for Arbitration, as the Commission's appointment might be thereby indefinitely delayed, with the result that we should lose this year's season. He replied that the object of the stipulation was to make it clear to tlie public that the Joint Commission had not been accepted by the United States' Government until it had been definitely agreed that the settlement of the leg.il rights in dispute between the two nations should be referred to arbitration, lie assured me that the President was most anxious that the appointment of the Commission should be early enough to permit it to commence its work during the season. In order to secure tiiis result he would do everything in his power to expedite the signature of the Convention for Arbitration. I await your Lordship's further instructions as to the steps I should now take. ' r '• ^ : r ■ ^' 1 ■ : •i ■: S !:! -i wer which Lord No. 33. The Marquis •,/ Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. 1 Sir, Foreign Office, June 12, 1891. I HAVE received your despatch of the 28th ultimo, inclosing copies of corre- I spondence with the Acting Secretary of State respecting the proposed modus vivendi in I Beliring's Ser.. Your iiote to Mr. Adee of the 27th May is approved by Her Majesty's Government. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. r"j ; li h I I ! I ■ ^ No. 34. 4 Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received June 13.) Sir, Downing Street, June 13, 1891. I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, for the information of the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a telegram which has been sent to the Governor- General of Canada, respecting the selection of two British experts on the Joint '''iminission of inquiry into the seal fishery in Behring's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BUAMSTON. Il and fld I 'tc Inclosure in No. 34. Lord Knutsforri to Lord Stanlej of Preston. iTcle^raphic.) Downing Street, June 12, 1891. bHALL be glad to know views of youi I.Iir.lsters aj to selection of two British |t.\perts Behring's Sea Arbitrp.lion. We think Badcn-Powcll, Member of Parliament, who has studied tlie question, I'oukl be valuable, and conclude he would be acceptable to Canada. The other should Ikiive special scientific or practical knowledge of seals and their habits. Can your llliuistcrs propose well-qualified person ? ' ii [672] i, ; It -; ■' No. 36. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, June 13, 1891. MODUS VIVENDI in Behring's Sea. Tou are autliorized to sign the Agreement, recording that you do so on the clcnr understanding that there vill be no (delay in the appointment of the Commission of Experts. We will send instructions to our cruizers as soon as we hear that you have signed. No. 36. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received June 13.) (Telegtaphic.) Washingto i, June 13, ISOl. IMMEDIATELY on the receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 13th instant on the subject of the modus vivmdi in Bchring's Sea, I addressed a note to the Acting Secretary of State, informing him that I had received your Lordship's authorization to sign the modus vivtndi, on the clear understanding that there would be no delay k app(>'uit'ng the Joint Commission. T'l '^" wing are the terms of the note which I have received, in reply, from Mr. TV i . - "Th,: .sident directs me to say, in response to your note of this date, that his | assent to tlie proposit'on for a Joint Commission, as ??;pres8ed in my note of the , 9th June, was given in the exij^jectalion that both Governments would use every proper effort to adjust the remaining points of difference in the general correspondence relating j to arbitration, and to agree upon the definite terms of a submission, and of the appoint- ment of a Joint Commission without unnecessary delay. " He is glad that an agreement has finally been reached for the pending season." The note proceeds with an invitation to call on ^londay next, at 10 o'clocii, at I the State Department, in order to sign the Agreement. I have received a positive j assurance .at the State Department that the President will be prepared to proceed to! discuss the terms of arbitration immediately after the signature of the Agreement. As this reply appears to me to be satisfactory, I propose to sign on Monday; but! before doing so, I should be glad if your Lordship would send me your final authority Ik J telegraph. No. 37. The Marquis of Salisbury io Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, June 14, 1S91, BEHEING'S SEA modus vivendi. In reply to your telegram of to-day, I have to inform you that you are authorized to sign the Agreement. No. 38. .f- ■■! Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Received June 14.) (Telegraphic.) " ■ Washington, June H, l^Ol. THE Acting Secretary of State and I have Just signed the Agreement for a moM vivendi in Behring's Sea. I am now awaiting an appointment to continue the discussion of the terms arbitration. Tho abovo has been repeated to Lord Stanley. wm «M wmm A, in reply, from n of the terms 10 - No. 39. . Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received June 15.) My Lord, Washington, June 5, 1891. WITH reference to my telegram of the 3rd instant, I have the honour to inclose copies of the Memoranda hased on your Lordship's telegrams of the 2nd instant, on the subject of the modus vivendi in Beiiring's Sea, and of the terms of arbitration respectively, which I left yesterday morning with the Under-Secretary of State. T nfl.vf* SiC (Signed) ' JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclobure 1 in No. 39. Memorandum. Proposal of Her Majesty* s Government for a modus vivendi m the Behring's Sea during the present Fishery Season. THE Governments of Great Britain and of the United States shall prohibit, until May 1892, the killing of seals in Behring's Sea or any islands thereof, and will, to the best of their power and ability, insure that the subjects and citizens of the two nations respectively, and the vessels flying their respective flags, shall observe that prohibition. 2. During the period above specified the United States' Government shall have the right to kill 7,500 seals. 3. Consuls may, at any time, be appointed to the islands in the Behring's Sea, and the United States' Government will grant an exequatur to any such Consul. 4. Unless the assent of Russia be obtained to this Convention it shall not come into operation. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Washington, June 3, 1891. Inclosure 2 in No. 39. Memorandum. THE Undersigned has been instructed by the Marquis of Salisbury to inform tiie United States' Government that Her Majesty's Government are prepared to assent to the first five questions proposed to be submitted to arbitration in the note of the Honourable James G. Blaine to the Undersigned, dated the i4th April last. Her Majesty's Government cannot give their assent to the sixth question formulated I in that note. In lieu thereof they propose the appointment of a Commission to consist of four experts, of whom two shall be nominated by each Government, and a Chairman, I who shall be nominated by the Arbitrators. The Commission shall examine and report I on the question which follows : — " I'or the purpose of preserving the fur-seal race in Behring's Sea from extermination, J what international arrangements, if any, are necessary between Great Britain and the I United States and Russia or any other Power ?" As regards the question of compensation Her Majesty's Government propose I the following Article : — " It shall be competent to the Arbitrators to award such compensation as in their I judgment shall be equitable to the subjects and citizens of either Power who shall be I ihown to have been damnified in the pursuit of the industry of sealing by the action of I the other Power." (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Washington, June 3, 1891. P - -h't ! .. I '1 h-n 4 [072] 1)2 90 JTo. 40. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury,* — (Received June 15.) My Lord, Washington, June 5, ISOl. WITH reference to my teleio^rnm of the 4tli instant, I have the honour d, I inclose a copy of a note which I received yei5terday from the Honourahlo AVilliam Wharton, the Acting Secretary of State, in reply to the counter-proposals of ITtrl Majesty's Government for a modus vivendi in Behring's Sea, communicated by me to tlK;! United States' Government in accordance with the instructions contained in your Lord- [ ship's telegram of the 2nd instant. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTI, Inclosure in No. 40. Mr. Wharton to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir. Department of State, Washington, June 4, 1891. I AM directed by the President to say, in reply to your note of the 3rd instant, conveying to the Government of the United States the response of Her Majestv'- Government to the proposal of Mr. Blaine for a modus vivendi, relating to tlio seail fisheries in Behring's Sea during the present season : — First. In place of the first and second sub-divisions of the Agreement as submitted by you, the President suggests the following : — | 1. The Government of Great Britain shall prohibit until May 1892 the killing of seals in all that part of Behring's Sea lying east, eastwardly or south-eastwardly of tlie line described in Article I of the Convention between the United States and Russia o date the 30th March. 1867, and will promptly take such steps as are best calculated effectively to insure the observance of this prohibition by the subjects and citizens of Great Britain and all vessels flying its flag. 2. The Government of the United States shall prohibit, until May 1892, the killind of seals in that part of Behring's Sea above described, and on the shores and islands thereof, tiie property of the United States (in excess of 7,500 '.,0 be taken on the islands) ; and the Government of the United States will prom))tly cake such steps as are best calculated effectually to insure the observance of this prohibition by the citizens ot| the United S' ,tes and the vessels flying its flag. These changes are suggested in order that tlie modus vivendi may clearly have the] same territorial extent with the pending proposals for arbitration ; that the stipulation foi a prohibition of seal-killing upon the islands of the United States may rest upon its own| order, and that the obligation of the respective Governments to give prompt and vigoioui effect to the Agreement may be more clearly apparent. Secondly. The pertinency of the suggestion contained in the third sub-division ol Lord Salisbury's proposal is not apparent to the Preside)' The Statutes of tiie Unite States explicitly prohibit the landing of any vessels at the seal islands, and the resiilenc thereon of any person, unless specifically authorized by the Secretary of the Treasurj, It is, therefore, obvious that no Consular functions could be discharged upon the islandi by any Representative of Her Majesty's Government. The President regards this Law as declaring an exception as to the residence of Consuls, within the meaning of Article IV of the Convention of Commerce and Navigation of the 22nd December, 1815, bctweei Her Majesty's Government and the United States. If the proposal is intended to relat to the Islands of St. Paul and St. George, and has for its object access for such Agent; of the Government of Her Majesty as may be appointed to investigate facts that maj be involved in the pending proposals for arbitration, or in the hearing before tiie Arbi trators, 1 am directed by the President to say that, in the event of an agreement fni arbitration of the questions in dispute between Great Britain and the United States, In would be willing to extend reasonable facilities to Great Britain for the investigation ai the islands of any facts involved in the controversy. Thirdly. The fourth clause of the proposal of Her Majesty's Government, limitin] the taking effect of the modus vivendi upon the assent of Russia, presents what seems t * SubittDM telegraphed and reeeWed June 4. AUNCEFOTi; lating <o tlie soiul ment as submittedl ■'_■.■ 21 the President an insuperable difficulty, as an adherence to that suggestion by Her Majesty's Government will, in his opinion, prevent the conclusion of any Agreement, and will inevitably cause such a delay as to thwart the purposes which he must suppose both Governments have had in view. He is surprised that this result did not suggest itself to Lord Salisbury, and does not doubt that it will be apparent to him on a re-examinatiou. I am also directed to remind you that the contention between the United States and Great iiritain has been limited to that part of Bchring's Sea eastward of the line of demnrkation described in our Convention with Russia, to which reference has already been made, and that Russia has never asserted any rights in these waters affecting the subject-matter of this contention, and cannot, therefore, be a necessary party to these ncjfotiations, ii' they arc not now improperly expanded. Under the Statutes of the United States, the President is authorized to prohibit sealing in the Behring's Sea within the limits described in our Convention with Russia, and to restrict the killing of seals on the islands of the United States ; but no authority is conferred upon him to prohibit or make penal the taking of seals in the waters of Behring's Sea westward of the lino referred to or upon any of the shores or islands thereof. It was never supposed by any one representing the Government of the United States in this correspondence or by the President, that an agreement for a modus vivendi covM be broader than the subject of contention stated in the correspondence of the respective Governments. Negotiations for an arbitration have been proceeding between the United States and Great Britain, and if these Powers are competent to settle by this friendly method their respective rights and relations in the disputed waters upon a permanent basis, it would seem to follow that no question could arise as to their competency to deal directly with the subject for a single season. If Great Britain now insists upon impossible con- ditions, viz., that the conclusion of the modus vivendi is to be delayed until, and made contingent upon the assent of Russia to stop the killing of seals on its own islands and in its own waters, and ujjon the exercise by the President of powers not conferred by law, this would be, in his opinion, a practical withdrawal by Great Britain from the negotiations for a modus vivendi. This he would very much regret, and he confidently hopes that a reconsideration will enable Lord Salisbury to waive the suggestion of Russia's participation in the Agreement, and the inclusion of other waters than those to which the contention between the United States and Great Britain relates. In case the terms of the modus vivendi are agreed upon, the President suggests that a provision heretofore considered in another connection in the general correspondence, ty which the naval or other duly commissioned oflicers of either party may arrest any oifending vessel and turn it over at the nearest port of the nation whose flag it carries, for such judicial proceedings as tiie law provider, sliould be incorporated here, the more effectually to carry out the stipulations of the respective Governments to prohibit their citizens and vessels from taking seals in the specified waters of Behring's Sea. Having, with a view to an exigency which he has several times caused to be explained to you, promptly responded to the suggestions of your note of yesterday, the President directs me to say that he will be pleased to have from Lord Salisbury a prompt response to these suggestions. I am further directed by the President to say that your note of the same date referring to the conditions of the proposed arbitration, and stating the objection of Lord Salisbury to some points in tlie proposal of Mr. Blaine, will have the early attention of the President, I have, &c. (Signed) WILLIAM F. WHARTON, * . Acting Secretary. N"o. 41. Sir R. Morier to the Marquis of Saliibury. — (Recmed June 15.) My Lord, St. Petersburgh, June 10, 1891. WHEN your Lordship's telegram of the 2nd instant, respecting the seal question in the Behring's Sea. reached St. Petersburgh on Wednesday morning, I chanced to be in Finland, whither I had gone for an indispensable change of air. M. de Giers also intended to proceed thither at the end of the week. The places where we were respec- tivrly staying were a consideral)le distance apart, and as I was not sure which day M. de Giers was leaving St. Petersburgh, I did not know whether to go to the capital or I:: V!. I fi ; 1 ■ i, , i 1 ■ ■ I : i 4 (r H '■ ' i ^ ' ■ ■ .11 I ■arfUW-t^.;!..!-- *«1"1W.*''"'''- '■T".'l'i'l»i""f (."VIW* '■ » to his country house. I accordingly telegraphed to Mr. Howard to at onco address a note to tlio Foreign Oflice in the Honso of your Lordship's telegram, and arraiii>uil to meet M. de Giers at his country house on Sunday. ]>y tliis means no time was lost, lor as early as Thursday night M. Shishkine, the Und(>r-Socrotary for I'^oreign Allairs, JiuJ telof'mphed tlie contents of Mr. Howard's note to j\I. do Giers, who, when I reiiclicii Imu on Sunday, had had the ]»ai)ers connected with the subject sent up to him, and was in a position to give a jjrovisional reply. His E.xcellency's statement was to the foUowirig elfect. , The question of seal-hunting in the ik>hring's Sea had formed the suhject of con- tinuous negotiation hetween the United States' Government and his own for a voiy considerahle time, and many proposals had heen submitted to him hy the United States' Department, to none of which, however, had he heen able to give his assent. So far as he could sec, your Lonlship's projiosal was very reasonable, and its principle— namely, to give the seal fisheries a year's rest, in order to come to a definite arrangement as to the hest means for preventing the destruction of these valuable animals — was one with -which he had the i'ullest sympathy. It was impossible, however, to give nic an answer otl'-hand, because the matter lay not with the JSIinister for Foreign Alliiirs, but with that of the Domains. Now it so happened that cpiite lately the former Contract of the Government with the Alaska Company had terminated, and a new Contract witli a Russian Company had been substituteil lor it. Whether AF, Ostrowski, the Minister of the Domains, would be in a position to put this Contract in abeyance for the next twelve months, and whether, if he could, he would be able to do so without bringing the matter again before the Committee of ^Ministers, which would require some time, his Excellency could not tell mo till he received a reply from his colleague. He had written to him to urge expedition in the matter, and hoped to be able to give me a definite answer ])y the middle of the week. On my return to St. I'etcrsburgh 1 called upon M. VeshniakofV, the alter ego of the Minister of Domains, and urged on him the desirability of expedition. I found him well disposed towards the proposal, and I may therefore hope that a favourable answer will he given. On the receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 9th instant this morning, I addressed to M. de Giers a note embodying its contents, and called in the afternoon on M. Shishkine to urge that it should he immediately sent to the Ministry of Domains. He was not in a position to discuss the merits of this new departure. I have the honour to transmit herewith copies of Mr. Howard's note of the 4th instant and of mine of to-day's date. I have, &c. (Signed) R. B. D. MORIER, Inclosure 1 in No. 41. Sir R. Morier to M. de Giers. M. Ic Ministre, St. Peter^burgh, Mmj 23 {June 4), ISO I. I HAVE heen instructed by Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to inform your Excellency that Her iMajesty's Government have agreed to a proposal of the United States' Government to suspend seal-hunting in the waters and islands of the Behring's Sea until the month of May next year. The two Powers engage to prevent, to the best of their ability, seal-luinting of every kind on the part of their subjects, with the exception, however, of allowing 7,i>l)0 seals. to be taken for the suppDrt of the Aleuts employed by the Alaska Company. Lord Salisbury adds that, of course, there can he no question of this Agreement being signed unless Russia is willing to heconie a party to the same, and I am accordingly instructed lo inquire of your Excel- lency whether the Imperial Government would be disposed to co-operate with the other two Powers concerned in effecting the proposed suspension. J avail, &c. (For Sir R. Morier), (Signed) HENRY HOWARD. imti'*"ftiii'ii lotc of the 4th ). MOEIER. 28 Tnclosuro 2 in No. 41. Sir R. Morier to M. do Giers. M. lo Miniatrc, ,Sf/, Pplrrshurgh, May 29 {June 10), 1891. WITH roforonpo to my notn of tlio 2^1(1 May ( Jtli .Tunc), 1 Imvo now tho lionoiir to inform you llint I litivo rcccivod inHtructions from tlio Marquis of Salisbury (o point out to your I'ACi'lIency that, owiuy; to tlio Constitutional limits placed upon the powers exorcised by the Executive Oovcrnmeut of tiie United States, tlic proposal of Iler Majesty's Government is limited to the enforcement of a close season ou land and sea, cast of tho lino fixed l)y the Treaty of 18(i7. Tiicy are accordingly only anxious tliat RiiKsi". should prohil)it iier subjects from sealinp; tiiis year to tiie cast of that line in the open sea (seein<^ that there is no Ihissian land ou tlie eastern side of this boundary), and should antiiorizo us to stop vessels under her tlag enj^afjcd in seal-huntinjj; in those natera. The American Govcrujuent would appear to l)e precluded from associating themselves in this recpu'st, as they contend tiiat they have a right to exclude ships of every nationality from tliis portion of tlie Bchring's Sea. It will ckmrly be to Russia's interest to grant this request, as a close season to tho cast of the 1 8G7 line will naturally bcneiit the lishing on its western side. 1 avail, &c, (Signed) R. IJ. D. MORIER. No. 42. Sir E. Mulct to the Marquis of Snlishury.— (Received June 15.) My Lord, nerlin, June 12, 1891. ^\ ITTT reference to your Lordship's despatch of the 3rd instant, instructing me to ascertain whether the interest taken by the German Government in the Behring's Soa seal fishery was sucii as to malce it advisable to ask their concurrence in the suspen- sion of the fishery, I iiavc the iionour to inform your Lord-ihip that Haron von iMai'schall tohl mc to-day that iiis Government did not take suflicient interest in tlie matter to make it wortii their while to enter upon the lengthy I)Ut necesi=ary process of submitting tlie matter to the Reichstag for its sanction to their participation in an Agreement for tlic suspension of the fishery. I have, &c. (Signed) EDWARD B. MALET. No. 43. Sir J. Pauncpfote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received June 15.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, June 15, 1891. A PllOCLAMATION has to-day been issued by the President, of which I. shall , send the text by mail to-morrow, embodying the terms of the Agreement i'or thc-modui'^ Vivendi in Behring's Sea. '.■ No. 44. ■ • •. : Admiralty lo Foreign Office — (Received June 17.) Sir, Admiralty, June 10, 1891. WITH reference to previous corrcsijondencc respecting the 13ehring's Sea seal fisliery, I am commanded by my Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty to transmit herewith, for the information of the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, copies of telegrams which have this day been sent to the Commander-in-chief in China and the Senior OlUcer at Esquimalt, directing Her Majesty's ships "Porpoise," "Nymphe," and "Pheasant" to ])roceed to Behring's Sea for fishery duty, and o carry out the provisions of "The Seal Fishery (Behring's Sea) Act, 1891." I am, &c. (Signed) EVAN MACGEEGOll. Inclosurc in No. 44. [Telegrams sent to Commander-in-chief in China airl the Senior Officer at lisqiiimall. To Senior Officer, Esquiniall. THE following Act of Parliament has been passed : — Article 1, clause 1. Her I^fojesty the Queen may, by Order in Coum-ii, • .oliibit \\w catching of seals by British ships in Jlehring's Sea, or sueli part tiior.jol as is detirci! hy the said Order during the period limited by the Order. Clause 2. While an Order in Council under tills Act is in force, a person bclonirina; to a British ship shall not kill or take or hunt, or attempt to kill or take, any seal wiiiiin Behring's Sea during the period limited by the Order, and a IJritish ship sliall not, nor shall any of the equipment or crew thereof, be used or employed in such killing, taking, hunting, or attempt. Clause 3. If there is any contravention of this Act, any person commitling, procuring, aiding, or abetting such contravention shall be guiity of a misdemeiinour within meaning of "The Merchant Shipping Act, 18/>4," and the ship and her equipniciit, and every* hing on board thereof, shall be tbrfeitcd to Her ^lajcsty as if nn offence had been con>mitted under section 103 of the said Act, and the jjrovisions of sectiims lO,"^ and 104 and Part 10 of the said Act shall apply as if they were herein re-enacted, and in terms made applicable to an offence and forfeiture under this Act. Clause 4. Any commissioned officer on full pay in the naval service of Her Mnjcsty shall have power, during the period limited by the Order in Council, to stop and e.«Laniinc any British ship in Behring's Sea and to detain her or any portion of her e(iuipiaent or any of her crew, if in his judgment the ship is being or is preparing to be used or employed in contravention of this section. Clause 6. If a British ship is found within Behring's Sea having on board thereof fishing or ^booting implements or sealskins or bodies of seals, it shall lie on the owner or master of such ship to prove that the ship was not used or employed in contravention of this Act. Article 3, clause I. This Act shall apply to the animal known as the fur-seal, and to any marine animal specified in that behalf by an Order in Council under this Act, and the expresssion "seal" in this Act shall be construed accordingly. Clause 2. The expression " Behring's Sea " in this Act means the seas known as Behring's Sea within the limits described in an Order under this Act ; Clause 3. The expression "equipment" in this Act includes any boat, tackle, fishing or shooting instruments, and other things belonging to the ship. Clause 4. This Act may be cited as "The Seal Fishery (Behring's Sea) Act, 1801." Order in Council accordingly has been approved. It will only apply to Behring's Sea, and only that part of Behring's Sea which is cast of the Russian- American line: description in separate telegram. Your instructions are to proceed at once with " Nymphc " and " Pheasant " Behring's Sea and cruize to eastward of above-named line as may be necessary. Every ship under British colours which in your judgment is hunting seals or preparing to do so, if you think she is acting in ignorance of tiie prohibition or believes herself to be outside prohibited waters, you may let her go with warning. If a ship is found deliberately offending, confiscate all her equipment necessary for sealing, and record names of ship and master for prosecution afterwards. If you find American vessel deliberately offending, you are authorized by Convention just signed to arrest her, and you should record name of captain and vessel, and proof of offence, informing American authorities. If you can, it will be your duty to co-operate with American cruizers, who will Inive similar orders. " Nymphe " and " Pheasant " to proceed at once on this duty. "Porpoise" will proceed to Iliuliuk Harbour, Ounalaska, "lom China, to be under command of "Nymphe," who will give copy instructions for guidance. These vessels to remain on this service until close fishing season. Text of American Proclamation in newspapers of 16tb June. Ask for further information on any points not clear to you. Acknowledge receipt by telegram. To Senior Officer, Esquimalt, With reference to my telegram of 16th June, line of demarcation proceeds in a eottrse nearly souch-west through Behring's Strait and Behring's Sea, so as to pass midway betweeu the nortb-west point of the Island of St. Lawrence and the south-east .'.i..... j,...:.^'.. Ii'ii .ttlJ l^hl'M^''^'^'^ '■■•*'' ic seas known , tackle, fishing 26 point ot'Cnpc 'IVhitkoioki to tlip mcritiinn of 172" west longitude; thence from the intcr- si'ction of that meridian in a south-wester!)' «lirection so as to pass niidwiiy between the Island of Attoii and the Copper Island of the Kormandorski couplet or jjroup in the North I'acific to tiie meridian of 1G7" cast longitude, so as to include in the territory conveyed the whole of the Aleutian Islands cast of that meridian. To Commander-in-chief, China. Order " Porpoise " to proceed to rendezvous at Iliuliuk Harbour, Ounalaska, Bolirintr's Sea, lor service on fishery duties; will receive orders from "Nymplie." Order iiDcessary charts Hong Kong if "Severn," " Leander," have not got them. Coal ordered from Ksquimalt. " Severn," " Leander," " Mercury " are no longer required, and available for ordinary station work, " Porpoise " to report by telegraph date sailing and probable arrival destination. To Senior Officer, Esquimau. Arrange locally to send 1,800 tons coal Iliuliuk Harbour, Ounalaska, Behring's Sea, for " Nymphc," " Pheasant," " Porpoise." Half in time to meet " Nyraphe," "Pheasant," remainder as necessary. "Porpoise" joins from China. Report by telegraph arrangements. No. 4fi. The Marquis of Salisburi/ to Sir R, Morier. Sir, Foreign Office, June 17, 1891. THE Russian Ambassador to-day explained to me that it whs impossible that his Government should forbid seal-hunting during the present year upon Russian lands and in Russian waters, because they had quite recently leased the senl fisheries to a Company, and ns the lease had been solemnly confirmed by the Council of State, it was not in their power to go back upon it now. I explained to his Excellency that the American Government, not possessing the necessary legal power for arresting American vessels in the Avestern part of Behring's Sea, had restricted its consent to that part of Behring's Sea which lay to the east of the liiii! described in the Eussian- American Treaty of 1867. It consequently followed that all that we now had occasion to ask of the Russian Government was that they would permit, us to turn back and hinder from seal-hunting any vessels under the Russian flag which might appear to the east of the line to which I have referred. His Excellency replied that it had been the policy of the Russian Government to discourage pelagic scaUhunting altogether, and to confine it to the Russian islands, as far as they were concerned ; and that, as a matter of fact, Russian vessels were not in the habit of hunting seals to the east of the Russian-American U.ie, and were certainly never encouraged to do so. He said that he would transmit to M. de Giers a pressing request. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 40. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received Ji^'r iS.) My Lord, Washington, June 9, 1891. I HAVE the honour to inclose copy of the note which, on receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 5th instant, I addressed to the Acting Secretary of State inclosing a Memorandum, copy of which is likewise inclosed, giving the substance of your Lordship's above-mentioned telegram on the subject of the proposed modus vivendi in Behring's Sea. . I have, /kc. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. f672j » s h ' ' i I ' i- ' UmI lii 1 1 1 ■ M H Sj : 8 1) I^Hi : -:«) t 1 "IP *^ ' I t i- '■; ■ ■! ' i-y ■Hi t ■• -f i ''^ ^ s 1 • il^ 1 pi ^jjM 1 I IncloHiirc 1 in No, 40. Sir J, Paunrefote to Mr. IVharton, Sir, WimhliKjIon, June 0, 181)1. IMMRDIATRLY on the rccoipt of your note of the Uli instant, relative to tlie proposed modus rirendi in IJeliring's Boa, I communicated its contents to tlic Maniuis of Salisbury by telen;rapli. I have now the honour to inform you that lato last ni;{ht I received a telejfrnphic reply from his Lordship, of which the substance is contained ia the inclosed Memo. randum, 1 have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure 2 in No. 40. Memorandum, HER Majesty's Government accept the proposal of the President that the modun Vivendi, if nnjrccd upon, should provide that tlie naval or other duly commissioned otTiccrs of either party may arrest any oH'oiulinj; vessel anil turn it over at tlie nearest port of tiic nation whoso llan' it carries, for such judicial iiroc'cdinns as tlic law provides. By acL'cptini;' tliis proposal, Her Majesty's (Jovt'rnnienl yivo to the cruizors of tlic United Slates the 'power of siipervisinj;' the ccmduct of British subjects in observinir the proposed au;ieen>ent at sea. This is a concession which, in Lord Salisltury's opinion, entitles Her Majesty's Government to ask from the United States the correspoiidinf; power of supervising the proceedings cf United States' citizens on the Seal Islands. It is on the fidelity with which the condition of not killing more than 7,500 seals is observed that the equality of the proposed agreement depends. Her MajcRty's Government, therefore, regard it ns indispensable that they should have the right of satisfying themselves that this condition is fully observci' by citizens of the United States. If there be an objection on the part of the United ' 3s' Govern, ment to issuing an exequatur to a permanent Consul on the Seal Island ^ Salisbury suggests that they can under the Statute specially authorize the reside. ..^reon of a British Agent during the present season. His Lordship will not insist on the condition that Russia shall be a party to the Agreement, but ho must earnestly press the United States' Government to extend the prohibition to their citizens and vessels over the entire area of Behring's Sea. In that case Her Majesty's Government, on their part, will similarly extend the prohibition to British subjects and vessels. Lord Salisbury points out that, if seal-hunting be prohibited on one side of a purely imaginary line drawn in the open ocean, while it is permitted on the other side of the line, it will be impossible in many cases to prove unlawful sealing, or to infer it from the possession of skins or tishing tackle. In conclusiou, Lord Salisbury states that Her Majesty's Government consider it a matter of great importance that the two Governments should agree on the terms of arbitration at the same time as on a modus vivendi. The suspension of sealing is not a measure which they could repeat another year. No. 47. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisburif.* — (Received June 18.) My Lord, Washington, June 9, 1891. WITH reference to my telegram of the Gth instant, I have the honour to inclose I copy of the note wliich I received on that day from the United States' Government [ respecting the proposed modus vivendi in Behring's Sea. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Siibslanco telegraplied on June 6. i:L':ZiL-^x^ii:^i^.iiu^ V-- »-*f'.;.t JNCEFOTE. lint they should c(' by citizens of lUNCEFOTE. 27 Inclosure in No. 47. Mr, fVharlon to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, irashinr/ton, June 0, 1891. I .\M directed by tlic President to say tlint ho linfl received witli great satisfaction the note of Lord ftalishiiry of to-day'.s jjateiii ro[)ly to my note of the 4th instant. He diicclH iiic to ask you to remind FiOrd SalLshiiry that the liiriitation of the killinj^ of seals upon the islands is absolutely within Die control of the United States, as a daily count is made hy sworn ofRcors, and to inform him that already, in order to insure such control pending these negotiations, the agents of the Treasury Department who have been dispatched to the Seal Islands, have been instructed to stop the killing when 7,600 hove been taken, and to await the arrival of further orders; though ordinarily the taking of the seals on the islands dcies not begin until about the 1st July. The enforcement of an agreed limitation being so fully in the control of the United States, the President is sure that Lord Salisbury will not question the absoute good faith of this Government in observing its stipulation to limit the catch to 7,'''^0. This Government could not, of course, consent to any arrangement that implied such a doubt, or involved any foreign supervision on the islands. If the prompt and cH'cctual recall of the tleet of Canadian scalers now at sea was as fully within the control of Great liritain, tlie President would not have suggested the provision for the arro.st by cither parly of vessels violating the prohibition, but would have rested eonflilently in the assurance given by Her Majesty's Goveniment. But, in view of the I'act that the evidence which the respective Governments will present to the Arbitrators (if that happy solution of I lie pending difficulties shall be attained) must be collected during the present season, and as the definitive Agreement for arbitration cannot be concluded contemporaneously with this Agreement, the President directs me to say that he is quite willing to agree that Her Majesty's Govern- ment may send to the Seal Islands with a view to collecting the facts that may be involved in an arbitration, and especially facts relating to seal life and to the results of the methods which have been pursued in the killing of cals, a suitable person or persons to make the necessary observations. The present and the comparative conditions of the rookeries may become an important consideration before Arbitrators in a certain event, and the President would not ask that the evidence upon this .subject should be wholly from one side. He is desirous that the prohibition of the killing of seals for this season shall be as wide and absolute as possible, and will not omit the exercise of any power confided to him by law to promote that end. He directs nie to assure Lord SSalisbury that he is extremely desirous to bring to a speedy conclusion the pending negotiations for the submission to impartial Arbitrators of the points of dill'crcnce between the two Governments, and regrets that, for reasons which have been explained to you, an immediate answer cannot be returned to his Lordship's note upon that subject of the 2nd instant. He feels sure, however, that the prompt announcement of an agreement for a wodus vivcudi for tiiis season, while there is yet time to make it mutually effective, will not fail to have a happy influence upon the final negotiation. It is hoped that authority may be given to you, as the Ecpresentative of Her Majesty's Government at tliis capital, to conclude immediately, upon the passage of the Bill now pending in Parliament, the following agreement : — For the purpose of avoiding irritating differences, and with a view to promote a friendly settlement of Ihe questions pending between the Government of Great Britain on the one side, and the United States of America on the other, touching the rights of the respective nations in the Behring's Sea, the following agreement is made, which shall have no effect to limit or prejudice the rights or claims of either Power except as therein expressly stipulated and for the time therein limited : — 1. The Government of Great Britain will prohibit until May 1892 the killing of seals in all that part of the Behring's Sea lying east, eastwardly, or south-eastwardly of the line described in Article I of the Conventiim between the United States and Russia, of the 80th March, 1S(37, and will promptly take such steps as are best calculated effectively to insure the observance of this prohibition by the subjects and citizens of Great Britain, and all vessels flying its flag. 2. The Government of the United States will prohibit until May 1892 the killing of seals in that part of Behring's Sea above described, and on the shores and islands thereof, the property of the United States (except that 7,500 seals and no more may be taken on the islands), and the Government of the United States will promptly take such [672] E 2 ! I I^V\hi V 28 steps as are best calculated effectively to assure the observance of this prohibition by the citizens of the United States, and the vessels flying its flag. 3. All vessels or persons violating the laws of their respective Governments in this regard outside the ordinary territorial limits may be seized and detained by the naval or othf r duly commissioned oflicers of either of the High Contracting Parties, but they shall be handed over as soon as practicable to the authorities of the nation to which they respectively belong for trial and for the imposition of the penalties and forfeitures provided by law. 4. In order to facilitai \ such proper inquiries as Her Majesty's Government may desire to make M'ith a view to the presentation of the case of that Government beiore Arbitrators, and in the expectation that an agree'ncnt for arbitration may ultimately be reached, it is agreed that a suitable person or persons to be designated by Great Britain will be permitted at any time, upon application, to visit or to remain upon the seal islands during the present sealing season, for that purpose. I have, &c. (Signed) "W. F. WHARTON. No. 18. Coloniu.. Office to Foreign Office. — {Received June 18.) Su", Downing Street, June 17, 1891. WITH reference to your letter of the 10*^^h instant, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you a copy of the reply which he caused to be returned to the letter from the High Commissioner for Canada, forwarding a protest from the British Columbia Board of Trade against the piohibition of sealing in Behring's Sea this season, I am, at the same time, to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch frcm the Governor-General of Canada, fovvarding copies of telegraphic protests against the prohibition from the Premier of British Columbia, and from tho British Columbian sealers. Lord Knutsford proposes, if Lord Salisbury concurs, to refer the Governor-General to the despatch which has been sent to him containing the correspondence with the Higli Commissioner, anu to iesire him to reply to these telegrams in similar terms to the reply addressed to the Hi;^L Commissioner on the 13th instant.* I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosure 1 in No. 48. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford My Lord, Government House, Ottawa, June 3, 1891. AV'^ITH reference to my telegram of to-day, I have the honour to inclose herewith copies of telegrams from the Premier of British Columbia, and from the British Columbia sealers, protesting against the Bill prohibiting sealing in the Behring's Sea. I I1&.V6 &L0 (Signed) ' STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosure 2 in No. 48. Mr. Robson to Mr. Dewdney. (Telegraphic.) June 2, 1891. BRITISH Columbia sealers strongly protest against close season this year as it would ruin them, all their preparations and contracts having been made. Please wire me when it io ii.vended closed season shall commence. * Sm >io. 18, and Incloaure 4 in No 48, infra. flp^ w^ mim^mmmmm ffeleffraphic.) BRITISH lehring's Sea. 29 fnclosure 3 in iJo. 18. Mr, Cox to Mr. Tapper. June 1, 1S!)1. Ccl"r>ibia sealers ask you to protest against Bill prohibiting sealiii Very unjust co us. Heavy capital invested ; would ruin many here. Inclosure 4 in No. 48. Colonial Office to Sir C. Tapper. , • Downing Street, June 13, 1891. I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to acknowledge the receipt ot your letter of the |rd instant, forwarding copy of a telegram from the President of the Board of Trade of ritish Columbia, protesting against the proposed prohibition of sealing in Behring's Sea I season. 1 am to point out to you, in reply, that as the total cessation of sealing in Behring's k will greatly enhance the value of the produce rf the coast fishery, Her Majesty's tovernment do not anticipate that British sealer' will saffer to any great extent by fusion from Behring's Sea. They will be prepared, however, to consider any case in which it is clearly ablished that direct loss has been suffered by a British subject through the enforce- ment of the prohibition against sealing in Behring's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. No. 49. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received June 18.) lir, Downing Street, June 18, 1891^ I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, for the information of the harquis of Salisbury, a paraphrase of a telegram which was sent to the Governor-General If Cano la respecting the nomination of the British members of the Commission ol fsperts, together with a paraphrase of the reply which has been received. Lord Knutsford presumes that Lord Salisbury will submit the names of Sir G. laden-Powell and Mr. Dawson for Her Majesty's approval. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosure 1 in No. 49. lord Knutsford to Lord Stanley of Preston. Jelegraphic.) Downing Street, June 16, 1891. PLEASE inform me by telegraph as soon as you can of the name of Canadian lipert to be associated with Sir George Baden-Powell. The names have to be jibmitted to Her Majesty. It is proposed that Sir G. Baden-Powell should proceed Ihortly to Ottawa to consult with your Government. Inclosure 2 in No. 49. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. llv Lord, Government House, Ottawa, June 17, 1991. I HAD the honour ' o send to your Lordship to-day a telegraphic message in cypher, 1st which the following ) - the substance : — With reference to your message of yesterday's date, Dawson, of the Geological purvey of Canada, is recommended by the Dominion Government. You could not, I think, have a better representative. Baden-Powell's appointment is concurred in by the Canadian Government. (Signed) ' STANLEY OF PRESTON. •1 ' V" mm mmm WW ""mmimmamm |IIPIJJ|J1U..IIJ|B if li I No. 60. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R. Morier. Sir, Foreign Office, June 18, 1891, WITH reference to your despatch of the 10th instant, I transmit herewith, for your Excellency's information, two copies of the text of an Agreement between this I country and the United States which Sir J. Pauncefote lias been authorized to sign for | a modun vivcndi in Behring's Sea until May 1892. Sir J. Pauncefote has reported, by telegraph, that this Agreement was signed at| Washington on the 15th instant. As soon as the Agreement is received as signed, a copy will be forwarded to jou fori communication to the Eussian Government. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. ol. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R. Morier. Sir, Foreign Oj/ice, June 19, 1891. I HAVE received your Excellency's despatch of the 10th instant, reporting I a conversation with M. de Giers respecting the propcsal that Russia should join in the! Agreement for a modus vivendi in Behring's Sea which was in negotiation, and has since | been concluded between this country and the United States. Your Excellency's proceedings with regard to this matter are approved by Her I Majesty's Government. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 52. Foreign Office to Colonial Ojjlce. Sir, Foreign Office, June 19, 1891. I AM directed by tl:u Marquis of Salisbury to acknowledge the receipt of yourl letter of the 17th instant, inclosing a copy of a despatch from Lord Stanley of Preston, with copies of telegrams from the Premier of British Columbia and the Britisiil Columbian sealers protesting against the prohibition of scaling in Behring's Sea forj this season. T am to request that you will state to the Secretary of State for the Colonics that! his Lordship concurs in the rejjly which it is proposed to return to the Governor-General's [ despatch. I am, &c. (Signed) T. H. SANDERSON. No. 53. Sir J, Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received June 20.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, June 20, 1891. With reference to Behring's Sea negotiations, the return of the President to Washington from the seaside is expected on Tuesday, the 23rd, and at the State Dcpart-I ment I am assured that he will then proceed at once with the subjects that romain fori negotiation. All preparations for this purpose have been made, and I pressed nrgciitljl that during his absence negotiations might still go on ; but the President's assent cnu' not be obtained. '•fiX^*i*4'lHMtVr-<H * SALISBURY. m No. 64. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote, |Sir, Foreign Office, June 20, 1891. I HAVE received your despatch of the 9th instant, inclosing copies of a note and Jjlemorandiim addressed by you to the United States' Acting Secretary of State, on the Iproposed modus vivendi in Behring's Sea. ' The terms of your communication are approved by Her Majesty's Government. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. Ho. 65. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Received June 21.) [(Telegraphic.) Washington, June 21, IBQl. THE United States' Government have furnished me with a copy of the instructions [issued to their cruizers, under the 3rd Article of the rtioduf vivendi. I am sending a coj-.y of the note inclosing thera to your Lordship by next mail. The following is a summary of them : — The " Mohican," the •' Thetis," and the "Alert," and possibly oiher cruizers, will be I employed in Behring's Sea. The " Thetis " is to proceed immediately to Sand Point, the rendezvous of the I Canadian sealers, before they enter Behring's Sea, and distribute copies of the President's I Proclamation, giving noti;" to all scaling-vessels, and taking a list of all vessels warned. I She will proceed to Ounalaska as soon as the Canadian catch has been transhipped at I Sand Point, about July I. The " Mohican " f.nd " Alert " will proceed at once to tho seal islands and cruize jteo weeks in Behring's Sea, distributing the President's Proclamation, and warn all vessels [found engaged in see.iing to leave the prohibited waters immediately, recording, by an I entry in the vessel's log, that she has been warned. Both will then rendezvous with the '•Thetis" at Ounalaska, whither all persons and vessels seized are to be sent. A bartered steamer will be ready at this port with a marine guard to assist in handing I over the persons and vessels seized to their respective authorities. The United States' Government would be glad to have a copy of the instructions Iwbich have been issued to Her Majesty's ships detailed for service in Behring's Sea. No. BQ. Sir J. Pauncvfnte to the Marquis of Salisbur -{Received June 22.) I My Lord, fV/mhi /ton, June 1 2, T891. WrrH reference to my telegrams of the 9th, 10th, ami ilth June, I have the I honour to inclose herewith copies of the correspondence referred to tlierein, relative to a modus vivendi in Behring's Sea. Si^NDERSON. (Signed) I have, &c. ' r : ■A • V ■' M .... : -k ^ !- . ■ 1 1 :-;1 i ■ ■'■ ! ' i 1 •'..■- \ .\ ,!l If JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure I in No. 66. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr, Wharton. I Sir, Washington, Juni' ^. ' H. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of , your note of the Gi.. instant, I containing the terms of a proposed Agreement for a modus vivendi during the present seal fishery season in Behring's Sea, which I communicated at once by telegraph to the Marquis of Salisbury. I have this day received a reply from his Lordship, in which he transmits a draft of I the proposed Agreement, with certa'n modifications and additions. I beg to inclose a copy of it, and to request that you will be good enough to submit I it to your Governmeat for their consideration. • I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. 1 ' r ^"' i ■»■ ' ■• 1 1 'W"WSF*WI"",IW' W' Inclosure 2 in So. SO. Mr. Wharton to Sir J. Paunccfote. Sif, Department of State, Washington, June 9, 1S!)1, I AM directed by the President, in response to your note of the 8th June, delivered this morninar, to say that he regrets that at the moment when the two Governments seemed to have reached an agreement in this matter, which is one calling for *he utmost ])roniptness of action, new conditions should be suggested by Lord Salisbury. With the acceptance of the proposition submitted in my last note relating to permission to British agents to visit, the seal islands, an agreement had been reached upon all the conditions that had been i)reviously discussed or suggested in this connection. The President does not object to the modification of his proposal suggested in the first Article submitted by you, for he assumes that the terms used, while not as strong perhaps as those suggested by this Government, do fully commit the Government of Great Britain to prompt and energetic measures in the repression c' the killing of seals by the subjects and vessels of that nation. The proposals submitted by you on the 3rd June contain this clause : — " During the period above specified the United States' Government shall have the right to kill 7,500 seals." Now his Lordship adds a most extraordinary and not altogether clear condition (I quote) : " to be taken on the shores and islands as food flkins, and not for tax or shipment." This new condition is entirely inadmissible, and, in the opinion of the President, inconsistent with the assent already yiven by Her Majesty's Government to the proposi- tion of the United States in that behalf. It had been particularly explained in the correspondence that the lessees of the privilege of taking seals upon the islands assumed obligations to supply to the natives the food and other things necessary for their subsistence and comfort, and that the taking of the limited number of seals was not only to supply flesh to the natives, but, in some part, to recompense the Company for furnishing other necesgsry articles of food, clothing, and fuel. The President is surprised that it should now be suggested that none of these skins should be removed from the islands, and he cannot understand how British interests can be promoted by allowing t) m to go to waste. The previous communications of Her Majesty's Government had, in the opinion of President, concluded this matter. As to the third clause of your proposition, I am directed to say that the contention between the United States and Great Britain has relation solely to the respective rights of the two Governments in the waters of Behring's Sea outside of the ordinary territorial limits, and the stipulations for the co-operation of the two Governments during this season have, of course, the same natural limitation. This is recognized in Articles 1 and 2 of your proposal, for you will observe that the obligation assumed by Her Majesty's Government is to prohibit seal-killing in a certain part of Behring's Sea, whereas the obligation assumed in the second Article by the Government of the United States is to prohibit seal-killing in the sauie part of Behring's Sea, and the shores and islands thereof the property of the United States. Tlie killing, therefore, of seals on the islands, or within the territorial waters of the United States, falls only within the prohibition of this Government. His Lordship will also see that it is altogether be Dnd the power of the President to stipulate that an offence committed in the undispiiicd territory of the United States against its laws shall be triable only in the Courts ot another nation. The extension of this clause to the territory and territorial waters of the United States, therefore, involves an insuperable legal difficulty on our part, and a concession which no independent Government could be expected to make. The mutual police which is to be stipulated for could not in the nature of things apply to the territorial waters within the undisputed and exclusive jurisdiction of either. To the fourth clause, which is in substance the same as the proposition irade by this Government, no objection is interposed. As to the fifth clause, I am directed to say that the President regards the proposi- tion to appoint a Joint Commission to investign ' > and report as to what liegulations or International Agreements are necessary to preserve the seal fisheries to be one of the incidents of the Agreement for Arbitration, nnd to have no proper place here. This distinction seems to have been recognized by his Lordship, and his proposal of such a Commission was made part of the separate note discussing the terms of arbitration presented by yoo on the 3rd June, and has never until now appeared in tbo corr«- j^Mmmmmmmm^ Ml June 9, 1S91. I June, delivered ito Governments ig for the utmost bury. With the nission to British II the conditions le President does iele submitted hy those suggested a to prompt and cts and vessels of jnt shall have the irdinary and not i islands as food of the President, it to tlie proposi- the lessees of the »ply to the natives ort, and that the he natives, but, in jT articles of food, )e suggested that at understand how , in the opinion of hat the contention respective rights rdinary territorial ents during this 11 observe that the filing in a certain id Article by the part of Behring'a les. Irial waters of the ] His Lordship will stipulate that an linst its laws sliall this clause to the 23 an insuperable l^ernment could he could not in the ted and exclusive [position made by lards the proposi' \z.t rtegulations or I to be one of the ;)lace here. This roposal of such a 18 of arbitration red in the corre- spondence relating to a moduf; vivendl. The President thinks the fourth clause, which has been accepted, makes ample present provision, but will give a full consideration to the buggestion of a Joint Commission in connection with the negotiation for arbitration. To the sixth and last clause, the President directs me to say that so far as he is aware no vessel bearing the Russian flag has at any time intruded into the waters described in the proposed Agreement. He is entirely in sympathy with the expressed desire of Lord Salis'n'ry f o secure such limitations as to the hunting of seals in the whole of Behring's Sea as will preserve to mankind this valuable industry, but he does not think that an agreement to unite in any joint note to Russia should be interposed here and at this time. Moreover, Lord Salisbury will perceive that, in the present state of the American laiv, if Russia should as-k for reciprocal action by this Government west of the Treaty line, the President would be confronted with the same difficulty that prevented him from extending the Agreement with Her Majesty's Government to the whole of Behring's 5*ca. As the President understands, the adhesion of the two Governments has been given in this correspondence to the following propositions : — " For the purpose of avoiding irritating differences, and with a view to promote friendly settlement of the questions pending between the two Governments touching their respective rights in Behring's Sea, and for the preservation of the seal species, the following Agreement is made without prejudice to the rights or claims of either party: " Article 1. Her Majesty's Government will prohibit until May next seal-killing in that part of Behring's Sea lying eastward of the line of demarcation described in Article I of the Treaty of 1867 between the United States and Russia, and will promptly use its best efforts to insure the observance of this prohibition by British subjects and vessels. " Art. 2. The United States' Government will prohibit seal-killing for the same period in the .same part of Behring's Sea, and on the shores and islands thereof the property of the United States (in excess of 7,500 to be taken on the islands for the subsistence and care of the natives), and will promptly use its best efforts to insure the observation of this prohibition by United States' citizens and vessels. " Art. d. Every vessel or person offending against this prohibition in the said wateri of Behring's Sea, outside of the ordinary territorial limits of the United States, may be seized and detained by the naval or other duly commissioned officers of either of the High Contracting Parties ; but they shall be handed over as soon as practicable to the authorities of the nation to which they respectively belong, who shall alone have jurisdiction to try the offence and impose the penalties for the same. The witnesses and proofs necessary to establish the offence shall also be sent with them. "Art. 4. In order to facilitate such proper inquiries as Her Majesty's Government may desire to make with a view to the presentation of the Case of that Government before Arbitrators, and in expectation that an agreement for arbitration may be arrived at, it is agreed that suitable persons designated by Great Britain will be permitted at any time, upon application, to visit or to remain upon the seal islands during the present scaling season for that purpose." The President directs me to inform you that the Government of the United States is ready to conclude this Agreement if it can be put into force immediately. The value of such an Agreement to the United States is daily lessening, and the President therefore feels that he must ask that the negotiations be brought to a speedy determi- nation. I have, &c. (Signed) W. V. WHARTOiN. Inclo&aC 3 in No. 56. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Wharton, Sir, Washington, June 10, 1891. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your note of the 'Jth June, delivered this day, in reply to my note of the 8th, in which I transmitted, for the consideration of your Government, the draft of the proposed Agreement for a modus limidi during the present fur-seal fishery season in Behring's Sea, with certain modifica- tions and additions suggested therein by the Marquis of Salisbury. I have telegraphed the substance of your note under reply to his Lordship, and I hope to be able to communicate to you his observations thereon in the course of [5721 S ll\' 'A Tl 1. 1 1 i; I 1 . i \ '■' ' f i i liii P ,1 K- 'A- \ \ 1 iJii 1 L. ■}•■ 1 ■19 [34 to-morrow or the following day. In the meanwhile, with reference to the complaint that 1.1 1 jo-r now conditions should have been sus^gested at this stage l>y Lord Salisbury, J wo-j leave to point out that all his Lordship's suggestions are obviously dictated by a desire to render the modus vivendi more effective, and to do all that is possildc in tiio coninion interest for the protection and preservation of the seal species during the pre-icnt season. In my humble opinion, therefore, it is to be regretted that those suggestions should not have commended themselves to the favourable consider.ition of the President. Tims, the object of the proposed insertion in Article 2 of the words, " food skins, and not t'or tax and shipment," which you qualify as extraordinary, was not to prevent the export and sale of the 7,500 food skins, of which the proceeds were intended to cover the cost of food, clothing, fuel, and other necessaries for the natives. Its sole object was to stop the injurious practice of driving and redriving the herds to the killing grounds (or selection, which is resorted to in the case of seals killed for " tax and shipment," and is stated by experts to be the main cause of the depletion of male seal life on the islaiuls. I would refer you on this point to the Report of Special Treasury Agent Ch. .J. GrofT, laid 'i f^rc Congress (Ex. Doc. 49), pp. 2 and 29. Also to the Report of Assistant Treasury A^:i:i " Joseph Murray, at p. 8, and that of Assistant 'JVeasury Agent A. W. Lavender, at ]>. 9 of the same Congressional Paper. As regards Lord Salisbury's proposal of the Joint Commission, it is by no means a new one. It has long been called for by public opinion in both countries. It was inserted among Lord Salisbury's last proposals for the Arbitration Agreement, in the expectation that the latter document would be signed contemporaneously witli the Agreement for a modus vivendi ; but, as your Government is not prepared to bring the arbitration negotiation to a conclusion without further consideration, and as it is ot the highest importance that the Joint Commission sliould be appointed at once, in order to enter upon its functions during the present fishery season. Lord Salisbury has had no alternative but to urge the insertion of the Article providing for a Joint Commission in the Agreement for the modus vivendi, of which it should, in the opinion of Her Majesty's Govennnent, be a component part. The objection of the President to that Article in the modus vivendi apjjcars to me to create the greatest difficulty which has yet presented itself in the course of this negotiation, and I earnestly hope that if Lord Salisbury should be disposed to waive tlie other conditions to which exception is taken in your note, the President will on his part accede to his Loi-dship's wishes in respect of the Joint Commission. (Signed) ' JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure i in No. 56. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Wharton. Sir, Washington, June 11, 1891. WITH reference to my note of yesterday, and especially to the concluding part of it, I have the honour to inform you that I have this day received by tolograpli froni the .Marejuis of Salisbury a reply to the proposal for a modus vivendi during the present fur-seal fishery season in Behring's Sea contained in your note of the yth June. His Lordship states that the President's refusal to adopt his suggestion with respect to Russia renders the proposed modus vivendi much less valuable, and that he is reluctant to abiinuon the words which he had proposed for insertion in Article 2 in relation to tliu reservation of the 7,500 seals to be killed on the islands. Nevertheless, in view of the urgency of the case, his Lordship is disposed to authorize me to sign the Agreement in the precise terms formulated in your note of the 9th June, provided the question of a Joint Commission be not left in doubt, and that your Government will give an assurance in some form that they will concur in a reference to a Joint Commission to ascertain what permanent measures arc necessary for ibo preservation of the fur-seal species in the JJ orthcrn Pacific Ocean. I have the honour, therefore, to inquire whether the President is prepared to give that assurance, and, if so, I shall, on receipt of it, lose no time in communicating; it by telegraph to Lord Salisbury, and in applying to his Lordship for authority to sign the proposed Agreement. I have, &c. ^Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. !r 35 Inclosure 5 in No. 56. Mr. Wharton to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Department of State, Washington, June 11 , 1891. I HAVE the honour to .ncknowlcdge the receipt of your note of to-day's date, and, in reply. I am directed by the President to say that the Government of tlie Uniteu States, rocogni ;inj? the fact that full and adequate measures for the protection of seal 'ifc should oinbrai'e the whole of Behring'a Sea and portions of the North Pacific Occar , will have no hesitancy in a<i;reoin,if, in connection with Her Majesty's Government, to tie appoint- nicnt of a Joint Commission to ascertain what permanent measures are necessa.-y for the preservation of tiie seal species in the waters referred to; such an Agreement to be signed simultaneously with the Convention for arbitration, and to be without prejudice to the questions to be submitted to the Arbitrators. A full reply to your note of the ard June, relating to the terms of arbitration, will not be long delayed. (Signed) ' WILLIAM F. WHARTON. No. 67. Sir E. Malet to the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Received June 22.) My Lord, Berlin, June 18, 1891. WITH reference to your Lordship's des itth of the 3rd instant, and to mine of the 12th instant, I have the honour to . ifonr. ycv Lordship that Baron von Marschall told me to-day that he intends to publish in tlie official Gazette a translation of the Agreement between England and the United States in regard to the Behring's Sea seal fishery, and to accompany it witli an injunction to German subjects to observe its regulations, I have, &c. (Signed) E. B. MALET. ii 1 . I |;/j| ; :| I :■ ' i , • f • I iir ; I ; ?| f i -(I fl jNCEFOTE. UNOEFOTB. No. 58. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J, Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, June 22, 1891. I HAVE received your telegram of yesterday, containing a summary of the instructions issued by the United States' Government to their cruizcrs for carrying into effect the modus vivendi Agreement in Behring's Sea. The following arc the instructions issued .' the Senior Naval OHicer of Her Majesty's ships at Esquimalt : — He is to proceed with Her Majesty's ship "Nymphe" and Her ISlajesty's ship " Pheasant " to Behring's Sea, to cruize to the eastward of the line of demaniation as he may find necessary, and to warn all British ships which he may find acting contrary to the Agreement between the two Governments, and in ignoi e of its provisions. Should he find a ship deliberately offending, her sealing equipment is to be confiscated, and the names of the sliip and master are to be recorded for the purpose of prosecution subsequently. Should he find an American ship deliberately oH'ending, he is to arrest her, the names of the captain .and vessel and proof of offence are to be recorded, and the American authorities are to be informed. He has orders to co-operate with the American cruizers. Her Majesty's ship "Porpoise" will be also under his command, and has for that purpose been ordered to join him from the China Station. [67S] F 2 .1 ' : ' ■ -I >''ti 1 4\ t ■ II «HMi ^BKimmm. 86 No. 50. Admiralty to Foreign Office. — (Received June 23.) Sir, A dmirnlty, June 22, \9Ql. MY Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty having received a copy of Sir J. Paunce- fote's telegraphic despatch of the 21st June, 1891, giving the substance of the instructions issued by the Government of the United States to cruizers about to proceed to Behring's Sea, and requesting tliat a copy of the British instructions may be sent, I am commanded by their Lordships to transmit herewith a copy of the telegraphic instructions sent to the Senior Naval Officer at Esquinialt on the IGth June.* From this it will be seen that the five clauses of Article 1 and four clauses of Article 3 of " The Seal Fishery (Behring's Sea) Act, 18J)1," have been telegraphed in full, together with the definition of the Russian-American line of demarcation, with additional instructions, as marked in red ink, in the margin of the inclosure to this letter. Her Majesty's ships " Nymphe " and " Pheasant " will, under these orders, leave Esquimau on or about the 26th instant, and will be joined by Her Majesty's ship " Porpoise," from China, about the 21st July. I am, &c. (Signed) EVAN MACGREGOR. No. 60. Council Office to Foreign Office. — (Received June 24.) »ir, Council Office, Whitehall, June 24, 1891. I AM directed by the Lord President of the Council to transmit to you the accompanying Order of Her Majesty in Council of the 2.3rd instant, entitled, " The Seal Fishery (Behring's Sea) Order in Council, 1891." Directions have been given for the publication of this Order to-day in a Supplement to yesterday's " London Gazette," and I am to request that you will lay the same before the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. I am, &c. (Signed) C. L. PEEL. Inclosure in No. 60. At the Court at Windsor, the 23rd day of June, 1891 Present : The Queen's Most Excellent Majesty. Lord President. Marquis of Salisbury. Earl of Limerick. Lord Arthur Hill. WHEREAS by « The Seal Fishery (Behring's Sea) Act, 1891 ," it is enacted that Her Majesty the Queen may by Order in Council prohibit the catching of seals by British ships in Behring's Sea, or such part thereof as is defined by the said Order, during the period limited by the Order : And whereas the expression "Behring's Sea" in the said Act mean* the seas known as Behring's Sea within the limits described in an Order under the said Act : Now, therefore, Her Majesty, in virtue of the powers vested in her by tlie said recited Act, by and with tlie advice of her Privy Council, is hereby pleased to order, and it is hereby ordered, as follows : — 1. This Order may be cited as the Seal Fishery (Behring's Sea) Order in Council, 1891. 2. From and after the 24th day of June, 1891, until the 1st day of May, 1892, the catching of seals by British ships in Behring's Sea as hereinafter defined is hereby prohibited. * Sea Incloture in No. 44. 37 9. For the purposes of the uaid recited Act and of this Order the expression " Behring's Sea " means so much of that part of the Pacific Ocean known as Behring'a Sea as lies between the parallel of 05° 30' north latitude and the chain of the Aleutian Islands, and eastward of the following line of demarcation, that is to say, a line com- ncneing at a point in BehringH Straits on the said parallel of 65° 30' north latitude, at its intersection by the meridian which pusses midway between the Islands of Krusenstern or Innalook and the Island of Ratmauoff or Noonarbook ; and proceeding thence in a course nearly south-west tlirough Beliring's Straits and the seas known as Behring's Sea, so as to pass midway bL'tween the nortli-west point of the Island of St. Lawrence and the south-east point of Cape Choukotski to the meridian of 172° west longitude ; thence from the intersection cf that meridian in a south-westerly direction, so as to pass midway between the Island of Attou and the Copper Island of the Kormandorski couplet or group in the North Pacific Ocean, to the meridian of 193° west longitude. (Signed) 0. L. PEEL. No. 61. Sir R. Morier to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received June 24.) (Telegraphic.) St. Petersburgh, June 24, 1891. I HAVE the honour to inquire of your Lordship whether, by the 3rd section of the Agreement to prohibit the killing of seals in certain parts of the Behring's Sea, the two Contracting Parties arc empowered to seize and detain vessels other than British or American, as also persons other than American citizens or British subjects. ' (I :. L. PEEL. der in Council, No. 62. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir G. Baden-Powell and Dr. Dawson. Gentlemen, Foreign Office, June 24, 1891. THE Queen having been graciously pleased to appoint you to be her Commissioners for the purpose of inquiring into the conditions of seal life in Behring's Sea and other parts of the North Pacific Ocean, I transmit to you herewith Her Majesty's Commission under the Sign Manual to that effect. The main object of your inquiry will be to ascertain, "What international arrange- ments, if any, are necessary between Great Britain and the United States, and Eussia or any other Power, for the purpose of preserving the fur-seal race in Behring's Sea from extermination ?" Her Majesty's Government have proposed to the United States that the investigation should be conducted by a Commission to consist of four experts, of ^vhom two shall be nominated by each Government, and a Chairman, who shall be nominated by 1 Arbitrators. If the Government of the United States agree to this proposal, you will be the Delegates who will represent Great Britain in the Commission. But in the meanwhile it is desirable that you should at once commence your examination of the question, and that for that purpose you should proceed as soon as you conveniently can to Vancouver, from whence the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty have been requested to provide for your conveyance to the various sealing grounds and other places whicli it may be expedient for you to visit. Application has been nyide to the United States' Government for permission for you I to visit the seal islands under their jurisdiction, and a similar renuest will be addressed to the Russian Government in tlie event of your finding it necessary to visit the Commander Islands and other Russian sealing grounds. Your attention shoidd be particularly devoted to ascertaining — 1. The actual facts as regards the alleged serious diminution of seal life on the I PribylofiF Islands, the date at which such diminution began, the rate of its progress, r.nd I any previous instance of a similar occurrence. 2. The causes of such diminution ; whether, and to what extent, it is attributable — (fl.) To a migration of the seals to other rookeries. (6.) To the method of killing pursued on the islands themselves, (c.) To the increase of sealing upon the high seas, and the manner in which it is I pursued. I I need scarcely remind you that your invostij^aiion should be carried] on witli strict impartiality, that you nhould ncgii'ct no sources of information whicli may Ijo likely to iissist you in arriving at a sound conclusion, and that great care siiould be talteii In silt tlie evidence that is brought before you. i-" : It is equally to the interest of all the Governments concirned in the sealing indi^lry that it should be protected from all serious risk of extinction in consequence of the use of wasteful and injudicious nielhods. f*''::' You will be provided with uli the documentary evidence in the possession of llii^ Dcpnrtuient which is likely to be of assistance to you in the prosecution of your iuciuiiy, Mr. A. Froude has been appointed to be your Secretary, and will accompany you on your tour. Separate despatches will be addressed to you witli regard to the expenses ol' your mission, and the form iu which your correspondence with this OHice should be conducted. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 03. [Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received June 25.) My Lord, Washington, June 10, 1891. WITH reference' to your Lordship's telegram of the 13th instant, authorizing me to sign the Agreement for a modus rlvendi in Behring's Sea, and instructing ine at the same time to reconl that I signed it on the clear understanding that the Commission of Experts would he appointed without delay to visit the seal islands, I have now the honour to transmit to your Lordship a copy of a note which I addressed to the Honourable William Wharton, Acting Secretary of State, in the above sense, as well as a copy of his reply thereto. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure 1 in No. GS. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Wharton. Sir, Washington, June 13, 1891. I LOST no time in telegraphing to the Marquis of Salisbury the contents of your note of the 11th June, conveying the assent of your Government to the appointment, in connection with Her Majesty's Government, of a Joint Commission for the purposes mentioned in my note to you of the same date, such / grcemcnt to be signed sinml- taneoualy with the Convention for Arbitration, and to be without prejudice to the questions to be sid)niittod to the Arbitrators. 1 informed his Lordship, at the same time, that in handing me the note under reply you had assured me that the President was anxious that the Commission should be appointed in time to commence its work this season, and that your Government would, on that account, nso their utmost efforts to expedite the signature of the Arbitration Convention. I now have the honour to inform you that I have this day received a telegraphic reply from his Lordship, in which, while conveying to me authority to sign the proposed Agreement for a modus vivendi contained in your note of the 9th June, Lord Salisbury desires me to place on record that it is signed by me on the clear understanding that the Joint Commission will be appointed without delay. On that understanding, therefore. I shall be prepared to attend at the State Department, for the purpose of signing the Agreement, at such time as you may be good enough to appoint. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. 39 d| on witli strict nay bo likily to be taken to Kit't Keiiling' industry lence ol' tla- use IHHCHHion of tills i)f your iii(|iiiry, company you on jxpcnscH of your Id be conducted, lALISBUUi. e 25.) June 10, 1891. tant, autliorizinc; instructing mo at t the Commission I, I have now tlic addressed to the ; sense, as well aa A.UNCEFOTE. June 13, 1891. contents of your le appointment, in lor the purposes je signed siniul- )rcjudico to the lip, at the same that the President lencc its work this utmost efforts to ived a telegraphic sign the proposed e, Lord Salishury rstanding that the le ;end at the State . you may be good AIJNCBFOTE. IncloHuro 2 in No. 63. Mr. IVharlon to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Department of Slate, IVashtngton, June 13, 1R91. _ TITE President directs me to say, in res|)onse to your iioto of tliis date, tliat liis assent to the ])roposition for a Joint Coniniission, ns expressed in my note of tlic 9tli .June, was given in tlic expectation that both (iovcrnmeiits would use every proper etfort to adjust the remaining points of ditl'erenco in the general correspondence relating to arbitration, and to agree upon the definite terms of a submission, and of the appointment of a .Joint Ccmimission, without unnecessary delay. Ho is glad that an agreenioiit has finally been reached for the pending season, and I Iieg to say that, if you will call at the Department at 10 o'clock on Monday next, 1 will be glad to i>ut into writing and give formal attestation to the modus vivvndi which has been agreed upon. I have, &c. (Signed) \V. F. WHARTON. No. U4. Sir J. Paimcefolc to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received June 25.) My fiOrd, Wash imj ton, June 10, 1891. I HAVE the honour to transmit hcrcnitli copy of the Agreement for the modus nvrndi in Rcliring's Sea, which 1 signed yesterday in accordance witli the instructions contained in your liordshi])'s telegram of the I'ltli instant. I will forward the original Agreement by next mail. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNOBFOTE. Inclosure in No. Ol. Agreement between the Government of Her Britannic Majesty and the Government of the United States for a Modus Vivendi in relation to the Fur-seal Fisheries in Behring's Sea. FOR the purpose of avoiding irritating differences, and with a view to promote the friendly settlement of the questions pending between the two Governments touching their respective rights in Behring's Sea, and for the preservation of the seal species, the following Agreement is made without ))rejudice to the rights or claims of either p^trty : — 1. Her Majesty's Government will ])rohibit, until May next, seal-killing in that part of Hehring's Sea lying eastward of the line of demarcation described in Article I ol the Treaty of 18ij7 between the United States and Russia, and will promptly use its best efforts to insure the observance of this prohibition by liritish subjects and vessels. 2. The United States' Government will prohibit seal-killing for the same period in the same part of Behring's Sea, and on the shores and islands thereof the property of the United States (in excess of 7,500 to l)e taken on the islands for the subsistence and care of tlic mitives), and will promptly use its host efforts to insure the observance of this prohibition by United States' citizens and vessels. 3. Every vessel or person offending against this prohibition in the said waters of Beliring's Sea outside of tli'o ordinary territorial limits of the United States may be seized and detained by the naval ^.c other duly commissioned officers of cither of the High Contracting Parties, but tliey shall be handed over as soon as practicable to the authorities of the nation to which they respectively belong, who shall alone have jurisdic- tion to try the offence and impose the penalties for the same. The witnesses and proofs necessary to establish the offence shall also be sent with them. 4. In order to facilitate such proper inquiries as Her Majesty's Government may [ desire to make, with a view to the j)rcscntation of the Case of that Government before Arbitrators, and in expectation that an Agreement for arbitration may be arrived at, it is agreed that suitable persons designated by Great Britain will be permitted at any time, upon application, to visit or to remain upon the seal islands during the present sealing season for that purpose. I 40 Signed and Bcalcd in duplicate at Wasliinpton, tliiH IBth day of June, IRlH.nn bchnlt' of their re»peetivo Oovernmonts, by Sir .liilian I'nuncet'ote, (J.CM.CJ., K.C.Il., Her Britannic Majesty's Knvoy Kxtraordinnry and Mininter Plenipotentiary, and William F. Wharton, Acting Secretary of State of tlu> llnilcd StntoH. (Signed) .MIIilAiV PAUNCKFOTK. WIIJJAM F. WHAUTON. No. or». Sir J. Pauncefote to the Mnniuis of Salisbunj. — {lircdiril June 25.) My Lord, Washimjlon, June 1(5, 1S!)1. WriH reference to my telogrnni of yesterday's date. 1 hiivo the honour (o transmit herewith to your Lordship copy of the I'roelaniation which lias been issued hy the President giving effect to the Agreement for a inixlus viveiuli in Ikliring's Sea for tin; present season. I have, kc, (Signed) .lULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. Go. Modus Vivendi respecting the Fur-seal Fisheries in Hchring's Sea. By the President of the United States or Ameiiica. A Proclamation. WHEREAS an Agreement for a modus vivrndi between the Government of the United States and the Government of Her Ihitannic Majesty, in relation to the fur-seal fisheries in Bchring's Sea, was concluded on the 16th day of Juno, in the year of our Lord 1891, word for word as follows : — "Agreement between the Government of the United States and the Government of /' • Britannic Majesty for a Modus Vivendi j» relation to the Fur-seal Fishcics m Behring's Sea. " For the purpose of avoiding irritating difTorcnccs, and with a view to promote (he friendly settlement of the (picstions pending between the (wo Governments tom'liing their respective rights in Behring's Sea, and for tiic preservation of the seal species, tlio following Agreement is made without prejudice to the rigiits or claims of either piiily. " 1. Her Majesty's Government will prohiI)it, until May next, seal-killing in tlint part of Behring's Sea lying eastward of the line of demarcation described in Article 1 of | the Treaty of 18G7 between the United States and Kussia, and will promptly use its best | efforts to insure the observance of this prohibition by British subjects and vessels. " 2. The United States' Government will prohibit seal-killing for the same period in I the same part of Behring's Sea, and on the shores and islands thereof the property of the United States (in excess of 7,600 to be taken on the islands for the subsistence and care of the natives), and will promptly use its best etforts to insure the observance of this | prohibition by United States' citizens and vessels. " 3. Every vessel or person offending against this prohibition in the said waters of I Bchring's Sea outside of the ordinary territorial limits of the United States may be seized Mid detained by the naval or other duly commissioned oflicers of either of the High Contracting Parties, but they shall be handed over as soon as practicable to the | authorities of the nation to which they respectively belong, who shall alone have jurisdic- tion to try the offence and impose the penalties for the same. The witnesses and proofs] necessary to establish the offence shall also he sent with them. "4. In order to facilitate such proper inquiries as Her Majesty's Government maTJ desire to make, with a view to the presentation of the Case of that Government before I Arbitrators, and in expectation that an Agreement for arbitration may be arrived at, it is I agreed that suitable persons designated by Great Britain will Le permitted at any time,l upon application, to visit or to remain upon the seal islands during the present scaling] season for that purpose. UNCEKOTl-:. "Rificntnl ami hcaIciI in (luplicntu ut VVaflliin^rton, iliiH Ifith day of June, 1801, on Iielmlf of their rcspcctivo (joviM-ninciitH. I»v Williftin F. Wharton, Acting Secretary of State of tlio Unitod Htatoa, and Sir .fulion I'aunccfoto, O.C.M.G., K.O.U., Ilor Drltannic MajcHty'H Knvoy Extraordinary and MiniHter Plenipotentiary. fSeah "William P. Wharton. (Seal) "Julian Paunoefotb." Now, tliprcforp, he it known that I, Hcnjamin Harrison, President of the United StntoH of Ainoricn, liavo caiiHod the said Agreement to he made pnhlic, to the end that tiie same and every part (hereof nuiy ho ohserved and fultilled with good faith hy tho I lulled Hiates of America and tiie citizens thereof. In witness whereof I have hcr^uj to set my iiand and caused tlio 8cal of tlio United States to ho aflixed. Done at tiie city of Washington, this lotli day of tfune, in tlic year of our Lord 1801, and of tlic Indopcndunce of the United States tho 115th. (Seal) (Signed) BENJ. HARRISON. Hy the President: (Signed) William F. Wiiauton, Acting Secretary of Stale. ■ — ■-- No. GG. Sir ./. Paunce/ole to the Afarquis of Salishury. — (Received June 25.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, June 25, 1891. YOIIR Lordsliip's telegram of the 2nd instant: Bchring's Sea arhitration. 1 have tliis evening received the following note from tho Acting Secretary of Stale : — [Scj Inclosurc in Sir J. Pauncefote's despatch of the 20th Juno : Inclosurc in ;No. 82, infra.'] No. G7. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R. Morier. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, .Tune 25, 18i)l. IN reply to your telegram of yesterday, I haye to inform you that the Agree- ment for modus vivcndi in Jlehring's Sea is only applicahle to the suhjects or citizcn.s of the two Contracting Powers. General jurisdiction over the whole region specified in the Agreement has been claimed hy the United States, hut this claim has been disputed by Her Majesty's (xovcrnmcnt. No. 68. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, June 2G, 1891. SIR GEORGE BADEN-POWELL is waiting to start on his mission to inquire into the conditions of sea! life in Bchring's Sea, and the season is running out. You should urge the' United States' Government to give the necessary permi-ssion to the British Commissioners to visit the Pribyloff Islands without delay. No. 69. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury.— -{Received June 20.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, June 26, 1891. THE State Department have informed me, in reply to the inquiry which I have made, in conformity with the instructions contained in your Lordahip's telegram of [672] G r • ; I I f ! ,1) ■ * ! ■ 1 ! 1 , ! ii H{ M; ffi^VlH 1 ^mK' • ffli 1 1 i 42 to-day's date, that the formal ijormission to Her Majesty's Commissioners to land on the Pribyloff Islands will Ijc sent 'i mc to-day. I propose to send this permi jsion to Consul-Gcnerai "coker, and to instruct him to deliver it to Sir George Baden-Vowell immediately on the arrival of the latter in New York. No. 70. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received June 2G.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, June 26, 189.1. WITH reference to my telegram of to-day, I have just received the formal permission for the Commissioners to visit the seal islands. It consists of a letter from the Acting Secretary of tlit; Treasury to Mr. Williams, the Special Agent in charge of the seal fisheries, instructing him to afford Sir G. Po'-cll and Professor Dawson the facilities desired to enable them to accomplish the object of their mission as defined in Article 4 of the modus vivendi of the 15th instant. w No. 71. The Marquis oj Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Foreign Offid, June 26, 1891. 1 HAVE received your despatch of the 12th instant, inclosing copies of corre- spondence with the State Department relative to the Agreement for a modus vivendi in X>vUiiAl^ .*> .--.. Tour notes to the Acting Secretary of State on this subject are approved by Her Majesty's Government. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 72. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Foreign Office, Jane 26, 1891. WITH reference to your telegram of the 21st instant, and to my reply of the 22nd instant, I trsiusmit herewith, for your information, and for conununication to the Government of the United States, a copy of the telegraphic instructions sent to the Senior British Naval Officer on the North Paciiie Station with regard to the steps to be taken to prohibit the killing of seals in certain specified portions of Behring's Sea,* I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 73. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received Jvne 27.) (Telegraphic.) Washhigion, June 27, 1891. WITH reference to my telegram of the 25c)i instant, relatuc to the Belninj^'s Sea arbitration, I venture to .iubmit, for your Lordship's consideration, tlic folhnving clause dealing witli the question of con nsation, instead of that proposed by the Acting Secretary of State in his note of the I'.lth : — "Article 7. Either Gu.i'mment may submit to the Arbitiators any claim lor compensation which it nuiy desire to prefer against the otlicr Government, in respect ot any losses or injuries, in relation to the fur-seal fishery in Behring's Sea, for which such other (jlovemment may be legally liable. "Tlie Arbitrators sliall decide on the legality ot every such claim, and if it shall 1k' established, lliey may award such compensation as in thci'' judgment shall seem equitable." If the above meets with your jLordship's approval, may I sound the United States Government as to whether they are prepared to accept it ': * lDcli>iiure in Ho, 44. odus vivendi in .proved by Her u- United Stiitos 4» No. 74. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir G. BadewPowell and Dr, Dawson. •Tentlcmen, Foreign Office, June 27, 1891. I HAVE to inform yon that a te'ograin has been received this morning from Her Jfajesty's Minister at Wasliington stating that he has received the formal permission of the Government of the United States fur your visiting the seal islands in Bchring's Sea, under Article 4 of the modus vivendi Agreement signed at Washington on tho 15th instant. It consists of a letter to the Government Agent in charge of the islands, directing him to alford you every facility in tho accomplishment of your mission. Sir Julian Pauncefote proposes to forward this letter to the care of Her Majesty's Consul-Gem ;ral at New York, for delivery to the British Commissioner, who is expected to arrive there per steam-ship " Ktruria " about the 4ith July. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 75. Sir R. Morier to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received June 29.) My Lord, St. Peter sburgh, June 19, 1891, M. DE GIER8 having, when I was at liis country place Sunday week, promised to let me have a.' answer on the subject of the Behring's Sea seal fisheries in the course of last week, and Saturday having come without my receiving a reply, I wrote au urgent letter to his Excellency Saturday night, reminding him of his promise. On Monday I learnt liis Excellency was coming up to town, and on Wednesday I cilled at the Foreign Office to inquive whether any decision had been come to, I pointed out to his Excellency that your Tjordship's last proposal comnumicated to him in my note of the 29th May (lOih June) seemed to me to have much sim])lified matters, and that I regretted that there seemed so little prospect of a decision being come to by the Impel ial Government. His Excellency said that he regretted more than he could say that he had not as yet succeedf>d in obtaining an answer fron. the Minister of Domains ; he liad in a large measure conic up from Finland to see what could h?. done by personal discussion with M. Ostrovsls-y and the Representative of the Ministry of Marine — tliat Department having starte:! ditliculties as to the ships that would be required to enforce the arrangement, and he had arranged a meeting for this purpose that evening. I did not see M. de Giers prior to his return to Finland, but M. Shishkine, whom I saw to-day, told me that the question had been referred to a Committee, consisting of himself as Representative of tlie Ministry for Foreign Affairs^ M, WyshniakoflP, the Under-Secretary of the Ministry of Domains, as the Representative of that Department, and Admiral Titacheft' as tlie Representative of the Ministry of Marine. He promised to let nie know as soon as the result was^ come to, but as yet 1 have heard nothing from him. He was himself, no less than M. de Giers, most strongly in tlivour of Russia's joining in the proposed action not only for the sake of a year's close season, but because, if the Russian Government did not join with us and herself enforce a close season, the seahng boats driven out from the waters to the east of tho line of 1S(»7 would all swarm westwards and m.-ikc war on Russian seals. The present difficulty seemed to be that the Ministry of Marine refused to provide the coals necessary for the ravril operations ; light cruizers would not suffice ; one large man-of-war at least would be required to accompimy the cruizers, and act as a central point from which to direct the operations of the latter, but this would require her to be continuously under steam for several months, and this was an expense which at present they were not prepared to meet, but he had every hope that the matter would nevertheless bo settled in a satis- factory manner. I have, &c. (Signed) R. B. D. MORIER. P.S. June 24. — I have not yet heard from M. Shishkine, and having called at the Ministry to-day, which is the ordinary day of reception, I did not find his Excellency in. R. B. D. M. •n ^ IF 1 ) * h !' 1 i '■ i 1! ■ ! ■ . ; i \ •■ ,ir ''( !l!iF!i;Ti .« I I, : i [572J o a fi No. 70. Sir J, Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury,* — (Received July 2.) My Lord, Washington, June 21, m^\. WITH reference to my telegram of this day's d.atc, givinj? a summary of the instructions issued by the United States' Navy Department in pursuance of iho Agreement between Her Majosty'„s Government and the ITnited States* Govornmcnt for a modus vivcvdi in Behring's Sea, I have now the honour to transmit to your Lordship a copy of tho note which I received from the Acting Secretary of State, communicating' the above-mentioned instructions, I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFO i'E. Inclosurc 1 in No. 76. Mr. Wharton to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Department of Stale, Washington, June 20, 1891. I HAVE the honour to transmit to you herewith copies of the instructions that li.ivc been issued by the Secretary of the Navy in pursuance of the Proclamation of (lie President, of the 15th Juno, 1891, relative to the modus vivendi respecting the fur-seal fisheries in Behring's Sea. This Government would be pleased to receive, in exchange, copies ot such instructions as may be issued by Her Britannic Majesty's Government on the same subject. I have, &c. (Signed) W. F. WHARTON. Inclosure 2 in No. 76. Mr. Tracy to Mr. Wharton. Sir, Navy Department, Washington, June 19, 1891. I HAVE the honour to transmit herewith a copy of the instructions which have been issued by the Navy Department in pursuance of the Proclamation ot the President of the 16th June, 1891, containing the modus vivendi, with a view to their exchange, sliould it be deemed desirable, for a copy of such instructions as may be issued by the British Government on the same subject. Very respectfully, CSigned) B. F. TRACY, Secretary of the Navy. Inclosure 3 in No. 76. Mr. Tracy to Commanding Officer of United Stales' Steamer " Thetis," San Francisco, California. (Telegraphic.) Washington, June In, 1891. PROCLAMATION of President closing Behring's Sea has been telegraphed to Collector of Port of San Francisco. Make immediate application for copies as soon as received; proceed with "Thetis" to Sand Point, Popoff Island, distribute the Proclama- tion among the sealing vessels. Warn master of each vessel to wlioin you may deliver Proclamation that name of vessel has been taken, and that vessel will be liable to ca])(iire ! if found to have been or to be scaling in Behring's Sea east of the line of demarcation; I after notice, furnish all United States' and British vessels of war and revenue-cutters with I lists of vessels warred. Remain in neighbourhood of Sand Point until receipt of furtlicrl instructions, which will be sent by " Marion." Receive on board an^' transport to Sand Point C. H. Bullard, Deputy Collector of Customs, but do not delay sailing on liis I account. * Substance talegraphed. NCEFOl'E. San Francisco, ■15 Inclosure 4 in No. 7c. ^fr. Tracy to Commandimj Officer of United States' Steamer " Mohican," San Francisco, California. (Tclcjtraphic.) " r/asliinqton. June W, ISO] . OBTAIN immediately I'rom Collector of Customs, San Francisco, printed copies of President's Proclamation in reference to Beliring's Sea. On receipt of such copies proceed with all dispatch to the vicinity of the Pri})ylofr Islands, St. Paul and St. George. Xotify all American and l>ritisli persons and vessels you meet of the Proclamation, and give them copies of the fuimc. Warn all persons and vessels of either nationality engaged in sealing in Beliring's Sea east of the line of demarcation, as shown on Hydrographic Office Chart Ko. G8, to leave those waters forthwith. Make entry of warning on register or log of scaler. Seize any American or British persons and vessels foimd to he or to have been engaged in sealing, after notice, within the prohibited waters, end bring or send them in charge of a sulticient force to insure delivery to nearest convenient port of tlieir own country, together witii witnesses and proot.s, and there deliver them to proper officer of Court in said port. Send, at least, the master of the seized vessel, her mate or boatswain, all her cargo, and such of her crew as you deem safe, in the seized vessel. At time of seizure, draw up declaration in writing, showing condition of seized vessel, jilacc and date of seizure, giving latitude and longiludo, anci circumstances showing guilt. Sign declaration, and send with ship's papers and seized vessel to officer of Court. Oeliver to master of seized vessel signed and certified list of papers found on board. Officer in charge of seized vessel will, at time of delivering vessel's papers to Court, sign a certificate stating any changes that may have taken place in resjiect to vessel, crew, or cargo, since seizure. Keep a list of all vessels to which notice of Proclamation has been given, and furnish all United States' and British war or revenue vessels Avith copies of list. Before sailing get order from Alaska Commercial Company, San Francisco, to coal at Unalaska. After two weeks' cruizing in neighbourhood of Pribyloff Islands, rendezvous at Sand Point, PopofV Islands, one of the Siiumagin group, with " Thetis" and " Alert," and await there further instructions by " Marion." Furnish copy of this order to Commanding Officer of " Alert," and direct him to comply with it. Inclosure C> in Nc. 76. Mr. Tracy to Commander Cotton, commanding United States' Steamer " Mohican," San Francisco, California. (Telegraphic.) Washington, June 16, 1891. UNTIL further instructed, you are jilaced in command of all United States' vessels of war cruizing in the noig'^hourhood of Beliring's Sea, and you will distribute the force in such manner as in your judgment will best enable you to comply with the orders of the Department, ami the ro([uirements of the President's Proclamation. Instruct vessels under your command to send all seized persons and vessels to Ounalaska, to which point chartered steamer will be sent from San Francisco with marine guard. Steamer will be at your disposal. Instructions liave been sent to revenue-cutters to turn over persons and vessels seized by them to you at Ounalaska. Utilize the chartered sfeanicr to the best advantage to assist in e.\ecuting the Proclamation, and to hand over as soon as practicable all seized persons and vessels to authorities of nation to which they respec- tively belong. Orders directing "Thetis," "Alert," and " Mohican " to rendezvous at Sand Point revoked, "Thetis"' will proceed to San.l Point as directed to distribute Proclamation and give notice, and will proceed thence to Ounalaska immediately after (lopartin-e of British steamer, whicii visits Sand Point about 1st July to bring home coa.st catch of seal. " Moiiican " and " Alert," after cruizing two weeks, as previously directed, in Behring's Sea, will rendezvous with "Thetis" at Ounalaska instead of Sand Point. " Marion " will sail later, and join your command at Ounalaska at about same time. Has "Thetis" already sailed? If so, you must communicate with her at Sand Point, where her orders of yesterday directed her to await your arrival. On receipt of this order, proceed immediately to Behring's Sea with " 'I'hctis," " Mohican," and " Alert." Telegraph departure. W i n ^- •'■■ 1 u ifl ■ -^i |1 r hi ■' 1 I 1 ! I s I ' ! J! . i , '.: . . I 1 ll!.'.H^^ !■; I i 46 No. 77. Sir J. Panncefote to the Marqtcis of Salisburij. — {Received July 2.) My Lord, Waxhimjlon, June 22, 1801. I HAVE the honour to inclose, with reference to previous correspondenc^e on the subject of tlic uiodm vivcndl in Uehring's Sea, copy of a protest, as pul)lislied in the " Washington I'ost " of the 2Uth instant, wiiicii lias been filed by the North American Commercial Conijiany witli the Treasury Department against the President's Procla- mation limitina: tiio catch of the Company for tlie current year to 7,500 seals, and for \vl\icli indemnity is claimed. This protest also contains a claim by the Company lor an indemnity against the United States on account of losses incurred during last year's fishery season by reason of their operati(ms on the islands having been brought to a, close on the 20tli .Inly before the expiration of the sealing season, by order of Mr. Golf, the United States' Agent. [ likewise have the honour to inclose a cutting from the "New York Times," commenting on this protest of the Company. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure 1 in No. 77. Extract from the " Washingtoii Post" of June 20, 1891. THE North Ame.-ican Commercial Company, through its attorney, Judge N. L. Jeifries, filed the following protest with Acting Secretary Spaulding, of the Treasury Department, yesterday : — "The North American Commercial Company, of San Francisco, California, the lessee of the right to take fur-seals for their skins on the Islands of St. Paul and St. George Iii Alaska, for a period of twenty years from the 1st May, 1880, respectfully represents : "1. That it has at all times since the execution of said lease, in every particular, faithfully performed the stipulations and convenants of the same, and has strictly observed the la\v in regard thereto, and obeyed the regulations, orders, and directions of the Secretary of the Treasury relating to the same ; that it is doing so now, and will continue to do so in the future. " Said Compa!iy further represents that previous to and at the time of the letting,' of said Contract the Secretary of the T'reasury, by public advertisement, assured said Company that it would bo permitted to take under said Contract on said islands a (junta of G(),000 seal-skins during the year ISDU, and said Company, relying upon that assurance, submitted its bid for said privilege and made its estimates upon that basis, and agreed to pay to the United States a sum three times greater than paid by the former lessee for said privilege, which proposal was accepted by the United States, and a lease was thereupon executed and delivered in accordance with said proposal submitted by said Company in response to said advertisement. "Tiiat thereupon said (Company, under directions of the Secretary of the Treasury, purchased from the former lessee, the Alaska Commercial Company, its plant, property, and fixtures on said islands, including a large number of dwelling-houses for the native inhabitants, also warehouses, storehouses, salt houses, merchandize, goods, provisions, boats, and implements, and paid therefor a large sum of money. Said Company at the same time purchased a large stock of supplies, provisions, goods, and merchandize for the wants of the inhabitants of the islands, and chartered a steam-ship at great cost for the purpose of transporting said supplies from San Francisco to the seal islands, a distance of over 2,000 miles, and to bring back to San Francisco the 00,000 seal-skins, which, by its said Contract, it had been authorized to take during the season of 1890, and for which it incurred a great expense. " Said Company further represents that, in violation of the terms and stipulations of said Contract without good cause therefor, and without any assertion or pretence by the United States or its Agents that said Company had been derelict or at fault in any respect, the United States compelled said Company to cease taking seals on the 20th day of July, 1 890, when the sealing season had not expired, and when said 2.) me 22, 1891. •csponcleiicu on ublished iu the forth American sident's rvoda- ,500 seals, and le Conipiiny lor irinjj; Itist year's •oui^ht to a close »f Mr. Goli', the ,v York Times," .UNCEFOTli. ley. Judge N. L. , of the Treasury 0, California, the i of St. Paul and | 1880, rcspecll'uUy n every particular, and has strictly I and directions o£ lins so now, and | |c of the letting of I cut, assured said id islands a ([uota dying upon Uiat lion that basis, and laid hy the former States, and a lease submitted by said] ly of the Trcasnry, [ts plant, property, iscs for the native jfoods, provisions, Id Company at the' lerchandize for the great cost for the' lands, a distance of] skins, which, by its of 1890, and for I and stipulations o( m or pretence by fcrelict or at fault] ^easo taking se^l red, and when said 47 Company had obtained only one-third of the quota of seal-skins whicli by law and tlic terms of .said Contract it was nutliorizcd to take, and then and there prohibited said Company from taking any additional number during said year, on account of which said Conipany sustained a loss in the sum of 400,000 dollars. "Said Company furtiicr represents tjiat at the time it was compelled to slop taking seals at said islands it earnestly protested against sucli action by the United States, and has continued to protest, and now again submits its formal protest against the action of the United States in preventing it from taking its quota of seal-skins it had a right to take by law and by the terms of said Contract. And said Coin]iany respectfully submits that it is justly entitled to receive from the United States such a sum as «ill compensate it for the loss it has sustained on account of the action of the United States, as I aforesaid. " 2. Said Company further represents that, acting under the authority of law and I the provisions of said lease, the Secretary of the Treasury, on tlie 1 3th day of April, J 891, delerniincd and fixed llie quota of seal-skins which said Company would be pernutted to hake on said islands, according to the provisions of said Contract, during the present year, [at (iO.OOO skins; and that, relyin::: upon tliat assurance, said Company again purchased a large stock of supplies to the amount of (55,000 dollars, and chartered a steamer at great expense to transport said supplies to the seal islands for the nuiintenance of the native inhabitants, and to bring to San Francisco the G0,000 seal-skins which it had beeu authorized to take during the present season. " And now, said Company having iieen notified by the Secretary of the Treasury that it will not be permitted to take its said quota of 00,000 seals during this year as it is authorized to do by its said Contract, and by the express direction of the Secretary aforesaid, and it rcsi)ectfully enters its protest .against such action l)y the United States, and gives notice to tiie Honourable the Secretary of the Treasury that it will claim to be reimbursed by the United States to the full amount of the loss it may sustain by reason of its being prohibited by the United States from taking its full quota of 00,000 seal- skins during the year 1891. " 3. Said Company further represents that in providing for the maintenance and education of the inliabitants of the Islands of St. Paul and St. George aforesaid, it has expended a large amount of money, to wit, the sum of 150,000 dollars, for which it has DOt been reimbursed in any part, and said Company has been assured by the Secretary of the Treasury that the United States will liquidate the account so expended by said Company, including as well the price of supplies and cost of schools, medicines, and medical attendance during the years 1890 and 1891. Said Company will be obliged to liereafter demand of the United States the full amount so expended. " Said Com])any respectfully invites the attention of the Secretary of the Treasury to the fact that the Islands of St. Paul and St. George iu Alaska belong to and are in the undisputed possession of the United States ; that the right of this Government to dispose of fur-seals bo^n on said islands has never been questioned. Comi)any assumes thp,t the right of the United Stales or its lessee said islands within on- unquestioned jurisdiction is beyond dispute ijuestion or interfercni'e hy England or any other foreign State. " The right of this Goveriiment to take fur-seals on its own territory is not one of |the (|UCstions to be submitted to arbitration, and has no relation to the contention |l)et\veeii the two countries. In that dispute Great ]5ritain allirms and the United States denies the right of iMiglish and Canadian poachers to slaughter fur-seals in ' our part' of Bchring's Sea, and this Company respectfully insists that the Agreement lictween the two Governments set forth in the President's Proclamation, in so far as it Iproliibits said Comjiany from taking its lawful quota of seal-skins, is in contravention of lllie vested rights of this Company, and subjects it U> great loss. "If it may be assumed, as England has asserted, and this Government lias denied, [that the eastern portion of Behriug's Sea is not the marine territory of the United States, but is the ' high seas,' the Company respectfully submits that it is not competent lor Great Jirilain and the United States alone or for any other two Governments to leterinine who shall be permitted to navigate these waters, or to prohibit fishing or akiiig seals on the high seas ; and the Company respectfully points out to the Honourable he S(>cretary of the Treasury that its rights have been overlooked by said Agreement iween the two Govt'rmnents, in that it deprives the lessee from taking seals which it is lUtliorized to take by law and its Contract with the United States, thereby inflicting a vere loss upon said Company, in order to obtain the consent of I'^ngland to arbitrate the uestiou as to the right of Canadian poachers to destroy the «eal industry by pelagic ialiug." This being so, said to take fur-seals on and not subject to • I h:!!"! i^: ■ Iiiclosuro 2 in No. 77. Exlracl from the "New York Tmcs" of June 20, 1891. TiiK Com JiEiiciAL Company protests. — Tlic Xortli American Commercial Company lias entered its protest iigainst the assent of tlie United Slates' Government td the closed season for sealing in lieliring-'s Sea, and lias ^iven notice that it claims (o he indemnified by the Government for its losses not only for this year, but Inst year, in having the number of senls that it was permitted to take under its Contract cut down. It is evident that the Company whicl; took the lease of the sealing privileges of ijie Islands of St. George and St. Paul for a term of twenty years from the Ist May, 1890, has a rather hard bargain. It is be nd to incur a considerable expense in miiiniaining the natives, without reference to the number of skins taken; and it invested (juite a large amount in the " plant " and property purchased from its predecessor. The preparation of each season's work is, of course, an expensive matter. The terms of the lease give the Secretary of the Treasury discretion in deteniiinins; the number of seals that may be taken each season. Last year the nund)er was flxcil at 00,000, but, on the 20th July, the operations of the Company were stopped by i;,c Agents of the Government, when only a little more than one-third of the allotted number had been taken. This year the Secretary of the Treasury again, on the 13th April, issued an order permitting the capture of G0,000 seals, and preparations were ma.!<' by the Comiiany accordingly. But under the closed-season Agreement the number hiis been cut down to 7,r)00, sutlicient merely to cover the cost of maintaining the natives. Now the Company claims', that the Government had no right to reduce the number after it had been once fixed for the year under tlie contract of lease, and it will I claim to be indemnified for its losses. It says that the loss last year was 100,000 dollars, and, of course, it will be much larger this year. Besides this, the Company asserts tlmtj it has expended 150,000 dollars in the maintenance and education of the natives, wlm'li| should be reimbursed. It seems likely, therefore, to have a nice little claim ujioii tliej Government for l,0()ij,000 dollars or more. The Company, through its counsel, has some remarks to make about the inter.l national and jurisdictional aspects of the asc, which are sheer impertinence. As to itj)! legal claims, not being familiar with the ,ict terms of the Contr.act, we shall not under-l take to pass an opinion. Apparently, tiie Secretary of the Treasury assumes that hisi discretion to fix the number of seals to be taken from year to year, and to supervise and! regulate the killing, includes the right to rerluce the number at any time during tliel season, while the Company denies this. But one thing is very clear. If it was t'oundl necessary last year to stop the Company's operations in Jidy, when only 21,000 seal/ had been taken, it was very poor policy this year to fix the limit again, before the scasora opened, at 60,000, and that, too, after tlie proposal for a closed season had been made anil negotiations were on foot for giving it effect. Does it not look as though the GovernJ ment itself had ]ireparcd the way for this claim for a large indemnity in case ,iif Agreement for a closed season should be made ? Is not this protest another stop in tiie process of laying the basis for a claim upon the Government e(|uivalent to the piolitsol a full scaling season of which the order permitting a catch of 60,000 seals was the fiisl step? If so, it may be that Mr. Blaine, by his delays and his influence, succeeded ii doing his friends of the North American Commercial Company a very substantial sorvic^ after all. No. 78. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Snlisbuiy. — {Received July 2.) (Extract.) Washington, June 2.*5, 1891. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of yesterday's date, containin::!; thj instructions issued to the British cruizers in Behring's Sea, I have the honour to inclosj copy of a Memorandum which I this day personally delivered to the Acting SecrctaiJ of State. I United ')C COUi H Conimi hoH-eve arrival matters croiaU'otiiFny crnment to the it claims to lie )ut Inst year, in ntract cut dtiwn, pvivilccjcs (if the c 1st May, 1890, in maiiitai\iing invested <iuite a •cJeccssor. The n in dctenninin;; inhcr was iixi'il nt 3 stopped l)y t.,c \ of tlic allotted :y again, on the and preparations ! )n Afirccmonl tho if maintaining the rht to rednoe the it" lease, and it will I as '100,000 dollars, mpany asserts that I the natives, wliii'hl tie claim uiion tliel c about the inter. tincncc. As to its| wc shall not under- y assumes that hisl nd to supervise and! %ny time during thol V If it wns foundl . only 21,000 sealJ 1, before the scasoiJ Ihad been made ami .hciush the Governj icnmitv in case atf another step in th^ cut to the prolits ol seals was tlie fifsj ucucc, succeeded iJ substantial servicl 49 Inclosuro in No. 78. Memorandum. THE following instructions linve been issued to the British Senior Naval Officer at Ks(|uiinalt : — He is to proceed to Behring's Sea with Her Majesty's steam-ships " Nymplic " and " Plicasant," and cruize to the eastward ot the line of demarcation mentioned in Articles 1 and 2 of the modus vivcndi, warning all liritish vessels found acting in ignorance of the prohibition. He is to confiscate the sealing equipment of any British vessel found deliberately offending, recording her name and tho name of her master, for piosecution afterwards. He is to arrest any American vessel found deliberately offending, and record her name and the name of her captain, togetlier with the proof of the oflPcnce for which she is arrested, informing the United States' cruizcrs. Her Majesty's ship " Porpoise " will be ordered from China to join the other ships under his command. Her Majesty's Government are of opinion that there should be an understanding between the two Governments for mutual indemnities. A cruizer of one nation arresting a vessel of the other can only be justified in doing so as the agent of such other nation, and should therefore act in that character. Her Majesty's Government therefore suggest that the two Governments should agree to indemnify each other in respect of any acts committed in pursuance of such agency by the cruizers of one nation against the ves.sels of the other in execution of the modus vivendi. No. 79. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received July 4.) (Telegraphic.) Washinaion, July 4, 1891. I HAVE the honour to inform your Lordship that Mr. Wharton, the Acting Secretary of State, has addressed to me a note stating that the President is about to designate two persons to visit the Behring's Sea for the purpose of examining all questions connected with seal life in that sea and the adjacent waters. Mr. Wharton, therefore, proposes that arrangements should be made to have the Agents of the respective Governments go together, so that they may make their observations conjointly. He awaits such communications as Her Majesty's Government may desire to make on the subject. Mr. Wharton informs me by word of mouth that the Agents whom the President is about to appoint will be nominated as members of the Joint Commission, and as he presumes that the same course will be followed by Her Majesty's Government with regard to Sir G. Baden-Powell and Mr. Dawson, the object of the proposal is that all the members of the Joint Commission should have the advantage of making the necessary investigations aiid inquiries in the course of the present seal fishery season. I await instructions from your Lordship as to the reply I should address to the United States' Government. •U '■'! ■' ':•■ m iW y No. 80. \ July 2.) ion, June 23, 1891. late, containing tli| he honour to inclosj [he Acting Secretart The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) . Foreign Office, July 5, 1891. I HAVE received your telegram of yesterday, forwarding the proposal of the United States' Government that the inquiries respecting seal life in Behring's Sea should be conducted conjointly by the British and United States' Commissioners. Her Majesty's Government have already chartered a ship to convey the British Commissioners, and they could not now cancel the engagement. Instructions will, however, be sent to the British Commissioners to co-operate as umch as possible on their arrival at the seal islands with the A'.nerican Commissioners in their inquiries into the matters to be investigated. [3.2J H 80 No. 81. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received July 6.) My Lord, Washimjlon, June 20, 1891. IN my telegram of the 15th instant I liad the lionoiir to report tlic signature of the Agreement between Her Majesty's Government nntl that of the United States for a modus vivendi during the present fur-seal fishery season in Behring's Sea, and I added that 1 was awaiting an appointment to proceed with tlic discussion of the terms of arbitration. Immediately after the signature of the vwdus vivendi, 1 had requested the Acting Secretary of State (the Honourable William Wiiarton) to appoint an early day for resuming the above negotiations, and he promised to use all expedition for tlint purpose. The next day (the 16th) Mr. Wharton invited me to call at the State Department, and to my surprise informed me that the President was compelled to devote the next few days to other urgent matters of State, and had made arrangements to leave Washington immediately afterwards for his sea-side residence at Cape ilay, hut that he would return on the 23rd, and would be prepared to proceed with the remaining subjects of negotiation. I expressed my concern at this unexpected delay, wliich I feared might prevent the appointment of the Commission in time to commciicc its labours during the present fishery season. I reminded Mr. AVharton of his assurances that tlic President was anxious to expedite the conclusion of the Arbitration Convention in order that the Joint Commission should not lose this season, and I strongly urged that lie should obtiiin authority to proceed with the negotiations during tlie absence of the President, wlierehy a whole week might lie saved at a time when every day gained would be of imporlanee, Mr, Wharton promised to report my observations to tiie President, and I called again at the Department of State on the 18th in the hope of obtaining a favourable reply to my proposal, but I was informed that my representations had been of no avail, and that the President would not consent to the negotiations being resumed until Km return from Cape May. The President returned to AVashington on the 23rd, and on the following day I called on Mr. Wharton to urge the immediate resumption of the negotiations. Ho promised to see the President at once on the si.bject, and yesterday evening I received from him the ofticial note of which I at once telegraphed the substance to your Lord- ship, and of which a copy is inclosed in my separate despatch No. Ml of this date. In that note Mr. Wharton submits, on behalf of the President, the text of two new clauses in the proposed Arbitration Convention with reference to the questions of an international close season, and of the claims for compensation, and also proposes a form of a separate and contemporaneous agreement for a Joint Commission. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 82. Sir J, Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, -^{Received July 6.) My Lord, Washington, June 26, 1891. WITH reference to my telegram of yesterday's date, I have the honour to inclose herewith a copy of a note which I received yesterday evening from the Acting Secjohir}- of State, in answer to the Memorandum (see my despatch of the 5tli June) which I coiu- nuinicated to him on the 3rd instant in conformity with tlie instructions containcil in your Lordship's telegram of the 2nd instant, on the subject of the Behring's Sea Arbi- tration. ,„ . . , . . (Signed) ' JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. ' .r.-; 81 IncloHure in No. 82. Mr. Wharton to Sir J. Pauncefote. ■' Sir, Washington, June 26, 1891. THE corrospondcnco between this Government and that of Her Majesty has liftppily resulted in an Af?reenient upon tlie first five propositions wliich arc to constitute the basis of a proposed Arbitration relating to the controversy which lias arisen as to the respective liglits of the two Governments in liebring's Sea. In tiie note of Lord Salisbury of the 2l8t February last he states his objection to the sixth proposition, as presented in the letter of Mr. Blaine of the 17th December, 1890, in the following words : — " The sixth question, which deals with the issues tiiat will arise in case the contro-. ver.sy shonld be decided in favour of Great Britain, would perhaps more fitly form the Hiibstance of a separate reference. Her Majesty's Government have no objection to referring the general question of a closed time to arbitration, or to ascertain by that means how far the enactment of such a provision is necessary for the preservation of the seal species, but such reference ought not to contain words appearingjto attribute special and abnormal right in the matter to the United States." I am now directed by the President to submit the following, which he thinks avoids ilie objection urged by liord Salisbury : — " No. 6. If the determination of the foregoing questions as to the exclusive juris- diction of the United States sliall leave the subject in sucli position tliat the concurrence of Great Britain is necessary to the establishment of Regulations for tlie proper protection and preservation of the fur-seal in, or liabitually resorting to, tiie Behring's Sea, the Arbitrators shall then determine what concurrent Regulations outside the jurisdictional limits of the respective Govcrnnients arc necessary, and over wliat waters such Regula- tions should extend, and to aid them in that determination the Report of a Joint Commission to be appointed by the respective Governments sliall be laid before them, with sucli other evidence as either Government may submit. " The Contracting Powers furthermore agree to co-operate in securing the adhesion of other Powers to such Regulations." In your note of the 3rd instant you proposed, on belialt of Her Majesty's Govern- ment, the following Additional Article : — " It shall be competent to the Arbitrators to award such compensation as, in their judgment shall seem equitable, to the subjects and citizens of either Power who shall be shown to have been damnified in pursuit of the industry of sealing by the action of the other Power." The President cannot give his assent to this form of submitting the question of compensation. It entirely omits notice of the important fact, that the Government of the United States, as the owner of the seal fisheries on the Pribylod' Islands, has interests which have been injuriously atlected by the pelagic sealing of which complaint has been made in tliis correspondence. This Government lias derived a very large annual income from this property, and this income has, in the opinion of the President, been very seriously impaired and imperilled by the destruction of the seal in the sea while passing to and from the breeding grounds on these islands. The Government of Her Majesty has directly interposed to support the Canadian sealers, and will not, the President assumes, desire to avoid responsibility for any damages which have resulted to the United States or to its citizens if it shall be found by the Arliitrators that the pursuit of seals by these Canadian vessels in the sea was an infraction of the rights and an injury to the property of this Government. The proposal submitted by you distinctly limits the liability of Her Majesty's Government in case of a decision in favour of the United States to com- pensation to the citizens of this country. It will be apparent to Lord Salisbury that whatever damagi.\s have resulted from pelagic sealing as pursued by vessels flying the British flag have accrued to the United States or to its lessees. The President does not doubt that the purpose of Her Majesty's Government in the proposal under discussion was to secure to the party injured equitable compensation for injuries resulting from what may be found by the Arbitrators to have been the unlawful and injurious act of either Government. From the note of Lord Salisbury of tiie 21st February, to which reference has been made, I quote tlie following : — " There is one omission in these questions which I have no doubt the Government of the President will be very glad to repair and that is the reference to the Arbitrator [672] H 2 i'^ ■|-i ] ■) 1 ' :i', ,<■. i ' 'i^^ i ' i\\ '" '' . 1 ; ( ■ . '■} ■■ ■ i ' L -. B9 of the question wlint dnmsKOs arc duo to the perbons who hnvc been injured in cnsii it shall be determined by liiin that tlio action of the United States in ecizing Brid^li vessels has been without warrant in international law." 1 am directed by the President to propose llie following 7th and final clause in the basis of arbitration : — "7. It shall be competent to the Arbitrators to award such compensation as in their judgment shall seem equitable to the sulijects or citizens of Great Britain whdM) vessels may have been seizecl by the United States in the Behring's Sea, if such sci/.iiivs shall be found by the Arbitrators to bavo been unwairnntod, and it shall iiIhd Iju competent to the Arbitrators to award to the United States such compensation as in their judgment shall seem equitable for any injuries rc-.ulling to the United States or to the lessees from the Governn)ent of the privilege of taking seals on the Prihyloll Islands, by reason of killing seals in the Hehring's Sea by persons acting under tiio protection of the British (lag outside of the ordinary territorial limits and since the 1st day of January, 1886, if such killing shall be found to have been an infraction of the rights of the United States." It being understood that an arrangement for n Joint Commission is to be made contemporaneously with the conclusion ol the terms of arbitration, I am directed by the President to ))ropose the following separate agreement: — "Each Government shall appoint two Commissioners to investigate conjointly wiih the Commissioners of the other Government all the facts having relation to seal life in Behring's Sea, and the measures necessary for its proper protection and preservation. "The four Conmiissioners shall, so far as they may be able to agree, make a joint Keport to eacli of the two Governments, and they shall also report, cither jointly or severally, to each Govcninient on any poiiitn upon which they may bo unable to agree. " 'I'he Keports shall not be made piil)lic until they shall be submitted to the Arbitrators, or it shall appear that the contingency of their being used by the Arbitrators cannot arise." I have See, (Signed) ' WILLIAM F. WHARTON. :;o. S3. Sir G. Baden-Powell to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received July G.) (Telegraphic.) July 6, 1891. IN my opinion it is essential that in order to avoid delay I should take with me to the North Pacific Ocean a permission from the Russian Goveinment to visit their islands should it seem necessary to do so. I should be glad if it could be sent to me, if possible, by post on the 7th instant. No. 84. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefole. (Telegraiihic.) Foreign Office, July 6, 1891. HER Majesty's Government approve the wording of the 7th Article respeclinfj compensation in the proposed Arbitration Agreement suggested in your telegram of the 27th ultimo. They have been awaiting the assent of the Canadian Government, which has now been given. Her Majesty's Government accept the Gth Article as proposed by the United States' Government, and communicated in your telegram of the 26th ultimo. No. 85. Sir J. Pauncefole to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received July 6.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, July 6, 1891. WITH reference to telegram from the Foreign Oflfice of the 6th instant, are the terms of agreement as to the Joint Commission referred to in my telegram of the 25th idtimo accepted by Her Majesty's Government ? C3 clause in tlm iVHARTON. 5 United States' No. 86. < I .... ... . . The MarqnxH of Salishurij to Sir G. Raden-Pouell and Dr. Dawson. ', (ientlcnien, Fnreiijn Office, Jiili/ "i, IHOl. I TRANSMIT herewith, for your information, parnphrnHcs of tclesrnnis wliich have p issed between Her Majesty's Miniwler at Washington and tiiia Depai tnieiit,* lelative to a proposal made by the Government of the United States thit the Conimissioncra appointed hy Her Majesty's Government and l)y that of the United States to visit Heliriny's Sea iiir the purpose of examining into the conditions of seal life should do so together, so as to make their observations conjointly. You will already have been informed of the contents of these telegrams by the Governor-General of Canada, to whom they have been repeated hy tclegraiih. In accordance with the assurance given to the United States' Government, I have to roquest that on your arrival at the seal islands you will as much as possible co-operate with the Commissioners appointed by the Government of the United States to inquire into this subject. , I am, &c. ■ - (Signed) SALISBURY. :■....'••.. No. 87. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received July 8.) ; Sir, Downing Street, Juii 7, 1891. I AM directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, for the information of the Marquis of Salisbury, the inclosed " Supplement No. 1 to the Annual Report of the Department of Fisheries," which has been received from the Governor-General of Canada. I am to request that you will call his Lordship's attention to the passages relating to the seal fisheries contained at pp. 182-4 of this volume. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosure in No. 87. Extract from Supplement No. 1 to the Annual Report of the Department of Insheries. FisHEUiEs Statements and Inspectors' Repoiits for Tnii Year 1890. [Printed by order of the Canadian Parliament.] Marine Furs, The value of the marine fur products is 510,111 dollars, being an increase of 157,061 dollars over the past year, due to the following causes: — An advance of 1 dollar per skin in the price of fur seals, an increase oi 11,181 skins in the catch, and an increase of 3,200 in the catch of hair-seals. 1 append a schedule, showing'the detailed catch of the sealing iloet for the season of 1890:— n- ■■;•:'■,-" .■A • No.«. 7D aiiil 80. P i:! I ! :V.-HI i ^ :i ; 1 ! •t 1 i , 1 .- 1 1 A 1 j,; Jt M ^wm ir^ffT 50 So ft sss ®. *1^* T kO o ■^ w^ to o • • • • • . • • CO •-* IlrtUBN showing Fur-Scala caught by Forcij^n VcsscIb fttul tliHpoacd of in Victoria, British Cohimbia. ■■3 a \>1 l2| '§1 ■ *^ (/J * is o o • '5 o> O •^ tS *^ Name of Vo<kcl, Narou of Owner. Numlicr of Sniid I'oinl Cntch. Nuin! or of Bcliriii;,' ScA f'alcli. Tdtal Number. Mnttio T. Dyro . . Sim Diego Oi'o. R. While .. Harry Davis Venture . . , . AJdo American .. ,, Ditto .. Ditto . . Ditto.. Ditto . . (Jcrroan 7^ 220 679 400 1,500 fiGt 431 74 67U ■101) 1,600 6CI 061 Total .. 201 3,4G1 3,7f8 It will be noticed tlmt the names of vessels and owners are given, togetlicr with the tonnage, &h in previous reports, wliilc the number of boats and canoes is kept separate and the total values s^iven. The value of vessels coni|)rises the fit-out with firearms, ammunition, &c., when prcj)arcd for a hunting voyage. The catch ot seals lias been divided into tiireo classes, viz. :— Spring catch, Sand Point catch, and Behring's Sea catch. The Spring catch comprises the seals cnptured after the vessels have left Victoria, say the 1st February, hunting ns far south as l^ower California ; Sand Point catch includes the skins taken off the west coast of Vancouver Island; and the Behring's Sea catch those killed in Behring's Sea proper. It will be noticed that the two fiist-named kinds exceed the Iklning's Sea catch by 3,"J17 skins, and, as is usually the case, I learn from dealers that the percentage of grey pups is larger in the Sand Point catch than in that of the Behring's Sea. On comparing the schedule with that of 1889, it will he seen that the scaling fleet was increased by six vessels; and, from present outlook, there will likely be a mucii larger increase during the coming season. I understand that there have already been purchased three American, a Japanese, and five Nova Scotia schooners for this trade. The names of the Nova Scotia vessels now on their way are — " Union," " Geneva," " Maud S," " Otto," and " Annie M. Paint," besides a steamer recently fitted up for the same purpose. I was informed that the seals in Behring's Sea changed their feeding«grounds last season from the south-west to the north-cast of St. George and St. Paul's Islands, the large catches being made at tlie north-east end. The cause of this change is said to l)e on account of submarine volcanic eruptions, which drove away the feed from the banks. I understand that Customs Collector Milne, of Victoria, has given a detailed Report on this fishery, and there is no need of my dwelling further on it. As I am situated here, and so seldom able to visit Victoria, I fintl it extremely difficult to get reliable information. No. 88. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R. Morier. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, July 8, 1891. IT is thought by the two Commissioners whom Her Majesty's Government are sending to investigate the conditions of seal life in the North Pacific Ocean and in Behring's Sea that, in order to complete their inquiry, it may be necessary for them to visit the seal islands belonging to Russia. One of the principal reasons for their doing so is that they will have 'to ascertain how far the alleged diminution in the number of seals is merely due to their emigration to other rookeries. I have to request you to apply for the necessary permission to the Russian Govern- ment, and it is desirable, if possible, that before they leave Vancouver the Commissioners may be able to receive the permission by telegraph. Their names are Sir George Baden- Powell and Professor Dawson. A steamer has been specially chartered for them in which they will visit the islands. ■• ' :' ii ; 1 i If I 56 Ko. 89. Sir J. Pauicefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received July 9.) My lionl, Washington, June 27, 1891. WITH refonncc to my despatch of the 23ril instant, I huve the honour to report that I have received :i coniuniHicatiou from the State Dciiartnicnt, dated yestenliiv, ii foriuin-T ine that the Memorandum, copy of which was inclosed in my despatch alxno. ni jntioned, relative to the instructions given to Iler Majesty's vessels in Behring's Slvi, van immediately eoiinnunicatcd to the United States' Navy Department for their information. I have, &c. (Signed) JULUN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 90. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. ^Tclegrapliic.) Foreign Office, July 9, 1891. IN icply to the inquiry contained in your telegram No. 97, of the Gth instant, I have to inform yon that Uie terms of Agreement as to a Joint Commission, contained in your telegram of the 25th ultimo, arc accepted hy Her Majesty's Government. No. 91. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R, Morier. Sir, Foreign Office, July 9, 1891. I TRANSMIT herewith, for your Excellency'^ information, copies of a despatch from Tier Majesty's Minister at Washington,* inclosing the Agreement signed at Washington on the loth ultimo hetween Her Majesty's Government and that of tho United States for establishing a modus vivendi in relation to the fur-seal fisheries in Behring's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 92. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received July 10.) Sir, Downing Street, July 9, 1891. I AM dir "ted hy Lord Knulsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis o"" Salisbury, a paraphrase of a telegram from the Govemor-Genetal of Canada respecting ihe suggestion that the members of the Joint Commission should proceed to the islands together. I am, &c. (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. Inclosure in No. 92. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. (Tolegrnpliii-.) (Received July 8, 1891, 4'20 p.m.) TIIH following message was sent to-day to Sir J. Pauncefote: — "The Priiiic Minister ot Canada suggests that the United States' Cloveinnicnt Khould l)e inloitued that the British (.'om.nissioner.s are ready to start, and hope to leave Ottawa en the 10th instant. ' W'.il United States' Commissioned accompany them ? " No. (14. ':-!n\ ■'^Wippp ^mm^ fNCEFOTE. SALISBURY. ^ HERBERT. 891, 4'20 P.M.) No. 93. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received July 10.) Sir, Downing Street, July 9, 1891. WITH reforencc to tlic letter from this Department of tlie 9th instant, I am directed bj Lord Kmitsford to tran.smit to you, for the information of the Marquia of Salisbury, a copy of a telegram which he has sent to the Govcrnor-General of Canada respecting the ."uggestion that the British and United States' members of the Joint Commission of Experts should proceed to Behring's Sea together. I am, &c. (Signed) EDWARD WINGFIELD. Inclosure in No. 93. Lord Knutsford to Lord Stanley of Preston. (Telegraphic.) Downing Street, July 9, 1891. WE have no objection to Commissioners of United States' Government accom- panying British Commissioners, who shou'>' proceed in vessel chartered for them without avoidable delay. No. 94. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, July 10, 1891. THE Secretary of State for the Colonies communicated to mo the telegram sent to you by the Governor-General of Canada on the 8th instant, suggesting that the United States' Commissioners should accompany the British Commissioners to Behring's Sea. Her Majesty's Government have no objection to the proposal, but the British Commissioners must go in the ship which has been chartered for them, and should not postpone their departure. No. 95. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received July 10.) (Telegraphic.) ' Washington, July 10, 1891. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of the 6th instant on the subject of Behring's Sea arbitration, I have sounded tho United States' Government unofficially on the subject of the new clause No. 7 respecting damages, which I submitted to yonr Lordship in my telegram of the 27th ultimo. Before arriving at any decision on this subject, the President wishes to bo otficially infoi-ncd of the precise grounds on which Her Majesty's Government object to clause 7 as proposed by him. With your Lordship's approval, I propose to inform him tlint Hor Majesty's Government are of opinion that in a case like the present, it is unusual and inexpedient to make use of terms providing that compensation shall be awarded on an hypothetical state of facts, and thus prejudging tlie question of liability ; that, further, tliey consider that the question whether any legal liability arises out of any particular state of facts is a matter which should be adjudged upon by the Arbitrators alter discussion before them. Her Mejosty's Government would therefore propose tliat, in order to place both Governments in this respect on the same footing, a new clause in the form submitted in my telegram of the 27th June sliould be substituted for chaise 7 as proposed by the President. 1 have tlie lionour to request that I may be informed as soon as possible as to whether the above reply receives your Lordsiiip's approval. [572] Jitai'' '5 W- ■flB' No. 96. Colonial OjjfSce tn Foi^"ii Office. — (Iteceived July 11.) Sir, J)owiiiiitj Street, .Iidi/ 10, ]8!)1. [ AM (iirocteil Ity Lord KuttUt'ord to iK-kaowledK*' the rocoipt of ymir letter of tlu^ S(li instant, im-losiiifij a ]KirapliraMt' of a teifj^rawii of the <>lli instant from Her Majesty's AinlciMsador at St. iV'ter.siiurj;li reiatinj.^ to [I'nf U-liriiig's Sea (jin'stion. In voply, I uni to state, lor the inforniatiM. {.f the Marciuis .if Salisbtn-y, tliat Ijord Kmitsford is of opinion liiat, in eoimiderin'r 'iK'Tiiiier the ]ius>ian proposals should he aeeepted, it shoidd lie borne ia mind that, unl«!ss t,iu»s Unitcil ritates ajirec to them also. United Ht«tes' sealers would lie free to caAch steals to the west of the line of demarcation in the Treaty of 1H()7, so that the aRsem <*♦' Hnfir Majesty's (iof^mmcnt would appear to be necessarily coiMiitioituI upon tlw; agp^eaittnt o)f the l'iiit«d Stales. I am *<•. (Signeut JCl>WAi!D WINOFIELD. m. -1 " SL I 1^1 r ilii it i No. 97. Sir R. Morier to tli!^ Marquis of Salisbury. — {MeceivM Jtiy 13.) (Extract.) St. PHf>M}urgh, July 7, l«i)l. I HAVE the honour to (rnnsntit to you*- i/ordship herewith i\\o inclosed copy of a note, dated the 14th (iHJth) June, in which M. ile (<ieT* replies m> my !•<'; notes of the '-'3rd May (Ith June) and "JiHh May (Idth .luno\ transmitted in my of tW 10th ultimo. Owinjf to some accident in transmission, whi«'h is n«^ yet cxplair.*d, th*" note only reached my hands yesterday. In it M. de (Jiers poMits ouft ifl ii»leren«t'^ to my second note, that it would be diflicult to accede to propositions the official text (/' which is not known to him otherwise thiin throu-i the public newspapers, and whv**.'>* have been broujjht to his notice by one oidy of the two Contracting Parties. Nevj«lli#*ics8, the Jmi)erial (ioveninicnt would jirobaldy see nothing in the way of prohibiti«)r K^soian subjects from hunting seals to the east of rhe maritime line of L^07 if Her M. Government, in a spirit of just reciprocity, would equally prohibit British subjoci a fishing to the west of that line. The cruizers of both countries eouhl, in that chmc, be authorized to stop on the high seas English and Ru-^ ian subjects alike found contravening this arrangement in the waters of the Mehring's Sea uni the Okhotsk-. The note closes by the signiticant hint that, under any circumstances, tli<- (jlovernor- Gcneral of the Amoor had been instructed to take all necessary mea.sures for protecting the Russian hunting-grounds again.st any dangers that might threaten them on the part of foreign hunters. When I saw M. de Giers on Saturday he did not advert to the question, being probably under the impression, as he must have supposed that I had received his note, that I would be the first to introduce it. I have therefore not had the opportunity of obtaining from his Excellency any elucidation of the note. Jnclosure in No. 97. M. de Giers to Sir R. Mofitir M. I'Ambassadcur, Sa in t- Peter fbv ttr^, if \A QsS) Air J'Al eu riionneur de rocevoir les deux notes de votre RceffUence en dsrte ts (1 Juin) et du 29 Mai (10 Juin) relativement a la chasse dcs friaries. Par la premiere de ccs notes vous voulez hien m'informer que le Gouvcrnement do Sa Maie>te Hriiannique e^t lomln' d'iiccord avec le Gouvernemeiit des l<ilats-Unis Aq rAmiriijiie (hi Xord qiinnt ii la jirohibition de i.i chasse des oturies jimqu'au mois de .M:ii de I'annee prochaine et invite le Cabinet Imperial a s'associer it cetfce mcsurc. Lord Salisbury a hien voidu ajouter que sans I'asscntiment dc la llussie d nc saurait t!tre question de la mise en prati(iuc dc cet arrangement. Dans la secondc des deux notes susmentionneos votre I'Acellencc modi'" la proposition de son Gouvcrnement dans cc sens que la prohibition de la chasse .;s otaries ne s'etendrait plus qu'ti Test de la iignc mariliiiie dii Traitd de 1867 conclu ntre la Kussic ot k's ritats-llnis. Le Gouvemement de Sa Majesle Britannique nous ' landerait en consequence d'intcrdire de noire c6te la . liJf jU i;|.ip.iiRP!PHIIiiPl(PP fi9 10, 18i)l. letter ol" tlu' or Mnjosty'.s ry, that Ijord lis should 1)1^ to them also, ■ demarcation iild appear to ^QFIELD. «/,/ 7, 1B'.)1._ )scd copy of a notes of the 1 0th ultimo. [1,.- note only to my second '■ which is not k»tt> l«ve hecn ,,. "-<(v<»lcss, the l)iu / l{'>s"ian Her M. suhjoci . .1 tliat cii^e, be d contravening the Governor- for protect ins em on the piirt ]uestion, being ived his note, opportunity of ) Aim, 1^1 du 2» Mai uvcrnement do Ktats-Unis do nu mois de Mid mcsurc. Lord uc saurnit t^tro dcp deux notes ement dans co Test de la lignc Gouvernement de notre cOte la chasae proliihec a I'cst de cette lia;ne a des sujets Russes et d'autoriser les croiseura Anglais ii saisir Ics hAtimcnts (pii se livreraient a cette Industrie sous notre pavilion. Tout en reniercnant votrc lO.xcellcnco de cos coniniunications je erois devoir ohsorver qu'il nous scrait ditriciic d'accc'der a des propositions dont ie texte odiciel no nous ast connu (pio par les journanx et qui d'ailleurs ne nous sont faites que par i'nne des deux Parlies Contractantos. Quant ii la ligne mnritime du Traite de 18t)7, le Gouvernement Imperial ne verrait ])roliahlenient pas d'empc'dienient ii interdire anx sujets IJusses la ehasse dea otaries ii I'ost de cette region si le Gouvernemen^ do Sa Majesle Uri(anni(|ue, dans un esprit de juste reeiisroeite, interdisiiit I'galement a scs sujets la cliasse .susmen- tioniKie a I'ouest de la nieme iigne. liCS croiseurs des deux pays jji-nrraient, en ec cas, etre autorises ii arreter les contrcvcnants en pleine nier, Anglais on liusses, sans distincticm, dans les eaux de Behring et d'Okhotsk, et do lea livrer aux auloritd-s nationalcs competentcs. En i)ortant ce (jui precede h la connaissancc de votre I'llxcoUencc je m'empresse d'ajouter (juc le Gouverncur-Gdneral de la Province d': I'Amour recevra dans tons les cas I'ordrc de prendre les mesures necessaires pour la protection des cliasses Itusses d'otaries centre les dangers qui pourraicnt les menacer de la part des chasseurs etrangers. Vcuillez, &c. (Signe) GlEUS. (Translation.) M. rAml)aasadeur, St. Pctrrshuujh, Jimr 1 \ (2(5), 1801. I WAYVj had the honour to receive your iOxcellency's two notes, dated the 2.1rd May (4th June) and the 20th May (10th June), relating to the hunting of seiils. In the first of these notes you are good enough to acquaint me that the Government of Her liritannic Majesty have come to an Agreement uith the Goverrnnent of the United States of North America with regard to the jiroliihition of seal-hunting until tiie month of May of next year, and that they invite the Imperial Cal)inet to join in that measure. Lord Salisbury was good enough to add that without the assent of llnssia there could be no question of putting this arran<4cment into practice. In the second of the two notes above mentioned, your I'^xcellency modifies tiie proposal of your (iovern- nient in the sense that the prohibition of scjil-hnnting would only hold good to the east of the maritime line of the Trcsaty of 18(57 concluded betwe-m Kiissia and tne United States. Tlie Government of Her Britaiuiic Majesty eonsecpientiy asks us to prohibit Russian subjects on our side from the seal-hunting which is forbicblen to the cast of tiiat line, and to authorize English cruizers to seize such vessels as may ])ursue tmit industry under our ilag. While thanking your Ivxcellency for these ccnumunieations, I tiiinlc it riglit to remark that it would be dillicult for us to agree to proposids of wiiicii the ollicial text is only known to us throiigli tiie newspajiers, and wiiich, nioteover, l:ave only been nnide to us by one of the two Contracting Parties. With regavd to tbe niarilin e line of the Treaty of 18(>7, the Imperinl Governnunl wciuld probably sec no dilliciilty \\\ pruhibitiui;- Russian subjects from hunting seals to the east of that region if tlie (ioveriiment of Her Uritannic Majesty would, in a spirit of just reciiirociiy, u(|iially prohibit their sidijects from Jumting to the we>t of llie same line. The (, uizers of tlie two countries could in that case be authorized to arrest the offenders in the o])en sea, Engli-h or Russian, witliout distinction, in the wateis of IJehring'^ Sea and tbe Sea of Okhotsk, ami to liaiul tli'-ii» over to the competent initional (iiitliorities. In making the .'ibove communication to yotu' Excellency, I hasten to add that the (Ji)vernor-General of the Province of the Amoor will in any case receive orders to take the necesisary measures for the protection of the Russian seal-hunting grounds against the dangers by which they may be threat enc.-d on the part of foreign hun';ers. 1 have, &c. (Signed) GIEllS. No. 98. Hit II. Morier to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received July ^'^.) My Lord, Si. PetershurgU, July 9, 1891. I IlE("liIVED your Lordship's telegram of the 8th instant early this morning, and at once addressed a note, of which I have the honour to transmit a copy herewith, to M. de Giers. [572] ^ 12 h:7 I % % m Not l)cin<? ftblo to Hparc tlio time, ()win<r to tlic dispatcli of my messenger, I rc(iucsto(I Mr. llownrd to take it liinisolf to M. Oliichkine and to urge on liis Excellency that the matter inifjht l)e at once taken in hand, ho tliat a telefrram of consent mi^lit be dispatched to V'^anconver's Island before the departure of the Oommissioners. AI. Cliichkine, wlio has a strong opinion on the subject of the extinction of the fur-soal species, expressed Ins full concurrence with the mission of Her Majesty's Commiiisioncrs, and said he would do nil lie could to obtain the necessary permission at once. There always remained, however, the dilfieulty of the three Ministers to be bronglit into connected action. I have, &c. (Signed) 11. B. D. MORIKU. Inclosure in No. 98. Sir R. Morier to M. de Giers, M. le Ministre, St. Petersburgh, June 27 (July 9), 1891. IX the Agreement between Her Majesty's Government and that of the United States, signed on the ]5th June last, in connection with the question of seal-hunting in the Ik'hring's Scu, it was stipulated that suitable jiersons designated by Great Jkitain should he permitted ujjon application to visit or remain upon the American seal islands during the present scaling season for the puri)o.se of making such inquiries as might assist Her Majesty's Government in presenting their case to the Arbitrators, should an agreement for arbitration be arrived at, and with the ultimate view of arriving at such data with regard to seal life as might facilitate a general agreement for the preservation of the species. I have now been instructed by Her Majesty's Government to inform your Excellency that Sir George Baden- Powell and Professor Dawson, men pre-eminently fitted for tiie l)urpose, have been selected by Her Majesty's Government to go out to the Uehring's Sea and >;o!tli I'aeitio for the purpose of investigating the conditions of seal life in tho.si! sons ; and they are very desirous that, in addition to the American islnud.s, these gentlemen should be i)erniitted to comjdete their inquiry by a visit to the Russian seal ishintls, ati important reason for this being that It will be necessiiry to ascertain how far the alleged diminution of seals is due merely to migration to other rookeries. Her Majesty's Government, in instructing mo to make this application to the Imperial Government, express their strong wish that the permission migiit be granted as quickly as possible, in order that they may be in a position to telegraph it to the Commissioners before they leave Vancouver's Island. I avail, &c. (Signed) R. B. B. MORIER. ■•''} No. 09, Tlu Mmiiuis of 'Salisbury to tSir J. Pnuncrfote. (Telegraphic") Foreitju Office, July 13, 1891. I HAVMC received ^'our telegram of Mio 10th instant relating to the Agreement tor arbitration in the Behring's Sea question, aiul L ap[)rove the reply you propose to make to the United States' Government as to the objections entertained by Her Majesty's Government to the proposed wording of clause 7 of the Agreement. No. 100. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received July 14.) Sir, Downing StTcet, July U,im\. WITH reference to your letter of the 19th June, I am divected by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Sali;hury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, forwarding a copy of a letter addressed to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries on behalf of the British foliinibia Sealers' Association, setting forth their objections to the passing of the Behring's Sea Seal Fishery Act. 1-1^ T 61 T am also to inclose tlic draft of a reply which his Ijorclship propoaes, with Lord SaHsbury's concurrence, to return to this despatch. r iitn, &c;. (Sij,'iiod) llOJJERT G. W. nERlJRRT. luclosurc 1 in No. 100. 0. MORIEll. Lord Slanlnj of Preston to Lord Knucxford. My Lord, Government House, Otlnwii, June 21', ]8!)1. I HAVE the honour to transmit herewith a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Conncil, submitting copy of a letter addressed to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries on behalf of the IJritish Columbia Sealers' Association, setting forth tlie objections of that body to the passing of the Bill of tiie Imperial I'arlianient to prohibit scaling in the Bchring'B Sea. I liavc, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF 1M?EST0N. fnclosure 2 in No. 100. Ueport of a Committee of the lionouralile the Privy Council, (ipproved hij his B.rcellenctj the Governor-General in Council, on the 'SInd Jaiu; 1801. ON a Report, dated tlio l7th June, 1891, ''rom tin; Aliiiisler of Murine and Fislicrics, Htating Tnat lie lias fceeived from Messrs. K, B. .Marvin and Co., of Victoria, British Columbia, a letter on behalf of tiie Hritisb CoIunil)ia Sealer.s' .Association, detailing the iibjei^tions (o the Bill tlien before the Imiieriiil Parliament to prohiljit scaling in Behring's Sea, which a nicutiug of the owners of soaliug-vessuls and other interested juirties discussed. The Minister oliscrves that the Association anticipate the elfect of the Bill passing in its present form will be ruinous to British subjects liitherto particiitating in the industry. They arc much opposed to the stipulation allowing tiie lessees to take 7,''50O seals for food for tlie natives, and assert that tiic natives em|)loyed by the lessees are taken fromOonalaska to the seal islands, and after the expiry of the killing-season are taken back to Oounlaska, a limited numb'jr only being left on the islands during the winter. If allowed to take 7,500, it is feared this permi.ssion would be used as a cloak to unlimited killing. They consider any clo.se season adopted should be genera!,, without any exception. The Minister further observes that in tho last paragraph of the communication appended, the Association ask to be allowed to send two competent men to represent their case before the Arbitrators. The Minister apjjcnds a copy of the letter in question, together with a copy of his reply thereto. The Committee, on the recommendation of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, advise that your Excellency be moved to transmit a copy of this Minute to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies for the information of Her Majesty's GoveruTiient. All which is respectfully submitted for your Mxcellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGIEE, Clerk of the Privy Counril. Inclosure H in No. 100. Messrs, Marvin and Co. to Mr. Tapper. Dear Sir, Victoria, British Columbia, .Tune 5, 1891. A MEETING of owners of sealing-vessels and others interested was held last evening to take into consideration (he i)reseni Bill, now before the Imperial Parliament, ami tlio harusliips that would arise from tin,' Bill passing in the present form, and if carried into effect will be ruinous to those British subjects engaged in the business. I 1. i. I I. •ilMI: 'I ! ; 9. ni\. ' I if There are some matters in connection with the passing of the Bill, and also tlio demand made by the American Government for the privilege of taking 7,500 seals lor the natives' food, which we strongly object to. Wo therefore lay our views before you with the object of future information and guidance of the Arbitrators in the settlenuiit of this question, matters that are of vital importance to all tliose engaged in the soalinp business. In taking up the demands made by the Amoricnn Government for 7,000 seals lor food, for your infornuilion we beg to state tiiat the natives employed by the lessees ol'llie Pribyloff Islands are taken from Oonalaska to the I?'lan(ls of St. Paul and Si. Georije about the 1st June, and remain tliere during the killing season, which continues until about the 1st September, wlien they are removed back to Oonalaska. Aliout six incii are left on each island during the winter, to prevent any raid being made alter the Company have taki'u their seals. The natives living at Oonalaska live as well as any white man can live. Those on tin islands are also provided with food for the season. The plea set up by the American (Government, that they want 7,.'J00 seals to feed the natives, is a blind, and only to gain that advantage over the Finpcrial Government. That pri /liege being allowed them, what is to prevent them from taking 70,000? There will be no check to prevent them doing so. The principal lessees of the islands, Leibes and Co., have a large cannery at Kodiak, also a fast steamer running between tliere .and the seal islands. They can ci\rry away any quantity of seals when they want then\ The facts are not generally known, only to those engaged in tlie business, [n the settlement of this (juestion, should any such advantage be allowed the American Government, it will be all they would ask, for, as they would be in a position to kill all the seals they require regardless of preserving life ; if it is decided to have a close season, let it be general. Give no advantage to any one, under no plea, especially that set up by the American Government, viz., food for natives. The British Columliian scalers have exactly the same grounds to work on that the American Govermnent claim in regard to feeding our natives. We have in all ],()U() natives employed on our vessels that live principally on the seal during the sealing season, and earn through their own industry from 500 dollars to 7;jO dollars while employed seven to eight months in the year. They formerly were hostile to all Whitcmen. Life wiis not safe among them, but since the scaling industry has become a legitimate business and profitable, the Indians have become civilized and industrious, and look forward to the sealing season the same as our Eastern fishermen look forward to theirs. I'he change in their habits and mode of living is most remarkable when compared with the savajje state they lived in before the sealing business commenced. They 1 ave now comfortahle clothing, good homes, and plenty to eat, all earned by their own industry. If our own Indians can earn their own living and make money in this business, the natives of Behring's Sea, emphned by the Sealing Comi)aiiy, can do the same, and do so, alt!ii)u_!,di not so well paid as our Indians. The plea sit up by the /Xmcriean Government, "food ibr the natives," we strongly protest aeaiiist, as a dodge on the part of the Government to get the small end of the wedge in. Another question in regard to the matter. Supposing there shoulil be a close season ? We have tifty vessels engaged in this busiiu'.s.>;, employing about 2,000 men. halt of them being natives, and bringing in a revenue to those emjdoyed sufficient to nuike them comtortalde, and support their families well : also the supplies :e(piiretl for the vessels at'.ds largely to the revenue of the Domiiuon, and helps to make up tlu' large amount of duty olleeted at Victoria. What will become of tin; natives if this industry is closed. It ma\ ciist the Domiinon millions to provide foi' them and keep them in order ; n\>» they are happy and contented, having comforts the same as Whitemen. If de])rived of their living- by tlie closing of sealing, a man's life would not be safe among them; also, what emplounent are we going to give our Whitemen, a majority of them young men, that have taken u|) this business for their future living, nearly all belonging to the Eastern provinces. It is too serious a matter to settle in haste, especially for the future prosperity of Drilish Columbia and the Dominion generallv. It not only gives employment to men on vessels, but has been the result of some ten m w vessels being built liere last year, and a further increase provided no intericrenee is allowed to closing the sea. If the Americans are allowed their 7,500 seals, they will gain the main point tliev have been seeking, while our vessels will be laid up to rot, and starvation to those employed in the business. The seal is a migratory animal and does not belong to any one nation. This outcry by the American Government of preserving seal-life is well understood by us as meaning funds for Uncle Sam. Lit the Dominion of Canada have a share. They have as much right as the other nations. If Canada will only protect ■ 03 her subjects in matters of this kind, and not allow Uncle S<am to take all the loaves and fishes, she will be a prosperous country. Having laid the matter before you in rather a rough manner, we kindly ask your earliest consideration in this matter, and would call your attention to the facts stated, not prejudicially, but in u calm and dolibcrate manner, i'tilly realizing our position to lie bankruptcy and ruin to all engaged, if carried out. We therefore luinibly ask, on behalf of the sealers, that you will kindly use your iiilluence to have the Arbitration Cominitt(!c allow tlio Scalers' Association to send two competent men, se'icted by them, as rupre.seulatives on our behalf. We have, &c. (On behalf of the Sealers' Association), (Signed) E. B. MARVIN and Co. Inclosure 4 in No. 100. Mr. Tapper to Messrs. Marvin and Co, Gentlemen, Ottawa, June 13, 1891. I liKG to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the .Oth instant. I observe (viiat you say touching the proposal that the lessees of the United States' Government miiy, pending a close season, take 7,500 seals for food for the natives on the Pribyloft Isianils, and your suggestion that abuses might follow the concession of such a privilege, and tiic expression of your desire that, if a close season be adopted, it should be general without any exception. I have considered the arrangements which you advance in support of this contention. I also note your views touciiing the jiropi sed compensation of Britisli citizens, who may suffer from the enforcement of a close season, and have to inform you that I have inclosed a copy of your communication to his Excellency the Governor-General, and have requested his Excellency to cause your views to be communicated to the Imperial authorities as soon as possible. Yours, &c. (Signed) CHARLES H. TUPPER. iH,i I f Inclosure 5 in No. 100. Draft of Despatch to Lord Stanley of Preston.* My Lord, Downing Street, July , 1891. I fLVVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your despatch of the 24th ultimo, transmitting copy of an approved .Minute of the Privy t;ouncil, inclo.siiig copy of a letter addressed to the Minister of Marine and Fisheries by the British Columbian Sealers' Association, in which their objections to the Imperial Behring's Sea Seal Fishery Act arc set forth. With regard to the anticipations of the Association as to the loss likely to be suffered by British subjects through the operation of the Act, I have already informed your Lordship of the decision of Her Majesty's Government with regard to the payment of compensation in such cases, and need only refer you to the communications which have already passed on the subject. The only other question raised in the letter from the Association which appears to call for notice is their wish to be lieard before the Arbitration Commission. As you are awaic, a Joint Commission of Experts has been appointed to examine all questions connected with seal life and tiic fur-seal industry for submission to the Arl)itrators, and I request that you will cause the Association to be informed that they I should lay any statements they may wish to make before this Commission of ExpuM'ts in the first instance, ami tliat, in the event of its being found neces-i'.rv to call evidence before the Arbitrators in addition to that whicli «ill be presented by the Commission of I Experts, Her Majesty's Government will not fail to bear their wishes in mind. I have, &c. ■\ li * This despatch was sent on July 16, 1891. \\ 64 ■ No. 101. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R. Morier. Sir, Foreign Office, July 15, 1891. I H.WE to acknowledge the receipt of your Excellency's despatch of the 9th instant, inclosinj? a copy of a note wiiich you liad addressed to the Russian Govlth- ment on tlic Belirin{>'s Sea question, and to state that your action, as reported in that despatch, is approved by Her Majesty's Government. I am, Ike. (Signed) SALISBURY, No. 102. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, July 15, 1891, I AM directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 14th instant, with its inclosures relating to the objections entertained by the British Columbian Sealers' Association to the passing of "The Seal Fishery (Behring's Sea) Act, IbOl." I am to state, for Lord Knutsford's information, that Lord Salisbury concurs in the reply which it is proposed to return to Lord Stanley of Preston's despatch on tliis subject. I am, &c. (Signed) T. H. SANDERSON. No. 103. Sir G. Baden-Powell to the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Received July 16.) My Lord, New York, July 5, 1891. I HAVE the honour to inform your Lordship that I have this day transmitted to you a telegraphic despatch, of which the following is a paraphrase : — " I have the honour to inform your Lordsliip that I am of opinion that it is neces- sary that I should take with mo in Behring'.s Sea, so as to avoid delay, the permit of the Russian Government to visit their islands should occasion arise. "I should be glad if this permit were forwarded to me — care of the Admiral, Esquimau — if possible, by the mail leaving England on the 7th July." I may add, in explanation of the above telegram, that as the Russian islands are as much as 2,000 miles from civilized ports, I deemed it advisable to carry with me the necessary permit in case I found it expedient to make inquiries on those islands in accordance with clause 6 of year Lordship's letter of instructions. I have, &c. (Signed) GEORGE BADEN-POWELL. No. 104. . Sir R, Morier to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Received July 17.) (Telegraphic.) St, Pelersburgh, July 17, 1891. 1 EAVB been informed by the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs that he felt certain that, .is soon as a decision had been come to by the three Ministries interested in the (|uestion of the visit of our Commissioners to the Russian seal islands in the Behring's Sea, tnlographic instructions would be sent to the Governor of I Vladivostok to see that all facilities for the investigations required shall be accordeJ | to them. ■ ■mi-ai-^-^-.i^^.-T^T'. '11 .11" •.'.'•..i^ftl.'JBWII ••JM.'. ^^Tf 1 ILISBURY. N-POWELL. 66 No. 106. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir R. Morier. Sir, Foreign Office, July 17, 1891. I HAVE received your Excellency's despatch of the 7th instant, inclosing a note from the Russian Goveriinieiit on the siihject of llie Aj^rcemcnt whicii has recently heen concluded between this country and tlie United States for preventing tiie killing of seals during the present season in a certain specified portion of Behring's Sea. In the course of this note iM. de Giers alludes to the fiicL that the text of the Agreement is not known to him otherwise than through the public press. Copies of the Agreement in the form in which it was signed were forwarded to you in my despatch of the 9th instant. I have to request your Excellency to com- municate a copy to M. de Giers, and to state that, in order to guard against any possible inaccuracies, Her Majesty's Government were awaiting the receipt of the signed original from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington before instructing you to place its text in the hands of the Russian Government. With regard to the conditions on which M. de Giers states that Russia would be willing to become a party to the Agreement, you are authorized to state that, although Her Majesty's Government would be very willing to enter info an arrangement with Russia and the United States to prohibit sealing during this season to the west as well as to the east of the line of demarcation mentioned in the Agreement, they understand that tiie United States' Government are unable to do so without fresh legislation, which is not possible at this moment, as Congress is not in session. Any agreement of this nature for the present season could therefore only be made by Russia and England alone, and it would have the effect of leaving the western portion of Behring's Sea open to United States' citizens, while closing it to Britisli and Russian subjects. For this reason Her Majesty's Government do not thinlj that such an arrangement as M. de Giers proposes would bt desirable, and they believe that his Excellency, on consideration, will concur in their view. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. lOG. The Behring\f Sen Commissioners to the Marquis of Salisbury. — [Received July 20.) My Lord, Ottawa, July 7, 1891. WE have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your Lordship's despatch of the 24th June, informing us that the Queen has been graciously pleased to appoint us to be her Commissioners for the purpose of inquiring into the conditions of seal life in Behring's Sea and other parts of the Nortli Pacific Ocean, and inclosing Her Majesty's Commission under the sign manunl to that effect. We have carefully noted the several instructions contained in your Lordsliip's despatch under reply, and trust that, acting under these instructions, we shall successfully bring to a conclusion the matters intrusted to our charge. Wc may add, that Mr. Ashley Froude commenced his duties as Secretary to the Commission on the 'J5t\i June. We have, &c. (Signed) GEORGE BADEN-POWELL. GEORGE M. DAWSON. No. 107. The Behring's Sea Commissioners lo the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received July 20.) My Lord, Ottawa, July 7, 1891. AS your Lordship has been already informed by a telegram from Queenslown, dated llie 28th June, your Lordship's despatch of the i'7th June, stealing that formal permission to visit the Pribyloff Islands will be handed to us by the United States' authorities, has teen duly received. [572J K rnpT y.;i M ! 1 f li r ;i' ■■'•'11 66 AVc have also to report that Mr. Consul Eraser handed to us at New York, on tliu 6th instant, a letter from the 'rreusiuy Department at Washington, of wliicli a copy in inclosed, for your Lordship's information, empowering us to visit the PribylofI Islands lor the purposes of our missiun, We have, &c. (Signed) (JKt)UUK BADIiN-POWEf,!, GEOHGE M. DAWSON. Inclosurc in No. 107. Mr, ISpuuldhnj to Mr, fVilliams. Sir, Treasury Department, iVasliinijton, June 25, 1891. THE 4tii section of tlie modus vivendi respecting the fur-seal fisheries in Ik-hrini^s Sea, concluded on the LOth instant, provides as follows; — "In order to facilitate such proper intpiiries as Her Majesty's Government may desire to make witli a view to tiie presentation of tlie case of that (loverninent beiorc Arbitrators, and in expectation that an ngreement for arbitration may be arrived at, it is agreed that suitable persons designated \>y Great Britain will be ))crmitted at any time, upon application, to visit or to remain upon the seal islands diu'ing the present sealing season for that purpose." As it appears from a communication, dated the L'.ird instant, from the Honourable the Secretary of State, that Sir George liailen-l'owcll, M.P., and Professor Godigc Mercer Dawson have been appointed Commissioners on behalf of Her IJiitannic Majesty to proceed to the Pribylotf Islands for the purpose of examining into the fur-siul fisheries in Beliring's Sea, and that the British Minister at this capital has requested tiiat the necessary permission may be granted to the above-named gentlemen to visit and remain on the islands during the current fishing season, you are directed to afford Sir George Baden-Powell, M.P., and Professor George Mercer Dawson every facility to enable them to accomplish the object of their mission. I am, &c. (Signed) 0. L, HPAVLDISG, Acting Secretary. No. 108. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received .July J2.) Sir, Downing Street, July 21, 1891. 1 AM directed by the Secretary of State fur the Colonies to transmit to you, for the information of the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor- General of Canada, reporting the publication of the Agreement between Her Majesty's Government and the Government of the United States for a modus vivendi in relation to the fur-seal fisheries in Behring's Sea. I am, &c. (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. Inclosure 1 in No. 108. Lord Stanliy of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Government House, Ottawa, June 26, 1891. I HAYl'j the honour to inclose herewith a copy of an approved Minute of the Pri\y Council, authorizing the issue of a Proclamation giving publicity to the Agrecnuiit between Her Majesty's Government and that of the United States of the 15th instant for a modus vivendi in relation to the fur-seal fisheries in Eehring's Sea. 1 have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. 07 HERBERT. Inclosure 2 in No. 108. Ueport of a Commitlee of the Honourable the Privy Council for Canada, approved by Mi Excellency the Governor-General in Council, on the \dth June, 1891. THE Committee of the Privy Council for Canada, on the recommendation of the MiiiiHtcr of Marino and Fi.shorics, advise that your Excellency do cause a Proclamation to issue fj;'v'"n publicity t(i the Af;reement hetwcei. the Impcrinl Government and that (il thr United States of tlu! lotli June instant for a modus vivendi in relation to the fur- aeal tisherics in Jichrinj^'s Sea. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEB, Clerk of the Privy Council. Inclosure 3 in No. 108. Extract from the " Canada Gazette" of June 20, 1891. (L.S.) Proclamation. Stanley of Preston. Victoria, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland Queen, Defender of the Faith, &c. To all to whom these presents shall come, or whom the same may in any wise concern, greeting. A Proclamation, (Signed) Jno. S. 1). Tiiomtson, Allorncy-General, Canada, WHEREAS an Agreement for a mof/ws rivrndi between our Government and the Government of the United States in relation to the fur-seal fHlicries in Bchring's Sea was concluded on the 15th day of June, in the year of our Lord 18yl, on the following terms, that is to say : — "Agreement between the Government of Her Britannic Majesty and the Gov the United States for a Modus Vivendi hi rclntlon to the Fur-seal I Behi'ing's Sea. ernment of Fisheries in '• For the purpose of avoiding irritating dilFerences, and with a view to promote the friendly settlement of the (piestions pending between the two Governments touching tlieir respective rights in Bchring's Sea, and for the i)reservntion of the seal species, the following Agreement is made without prejudice to the rights or claims of either party :— " 1. Her Majesty's Government will prohil)it, until May next, seal-killing in that part of Bchring's Sea lying eastward of tiie line of demarcation described in Article I of the Treaty of 1867 between the United States and Russia, and will promptly use its best efforts to insure the observance of this prohibition by Brilisii subjects and vessels. " 2. The United States' Government will prohibit seal-killing for the same period in the same part of Bchring's Sea, and on the shores and islands thereof, the property of the United States (in excess of 7,000 to be taken on the islands for the subsistence and care of the natives), and will promptly use its best efforts to insure the observance of this proliibili • 1>,> United States' citizens and vessels. "3. Every v<..<.--el or person 'oflending against this prohibition in tlie said waters of Bchring's Si r;, outs de of the ordinary territorial limits of the United States, may be seized and d^ t'l.neti by the naval or other duly commissioned officers of either of the High Contrac. n'.: Parties, but they shall be handed over as soon as practicable to the authorities of lijc nation to which they respectively belong, who shall alone have jurisdiction to try the offence and impose the penalties for the same. The witnesses and proofs necessary to establish the offence shall also be sent with them. [572] K 2 I l. 1 I 1 l^ ■ !■ ,<s.^1> IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 1. ^ 1.0 I.I Ui ^ |2.2 «« 140 Hill 2.0 I I 1.8 1.25 il.4 '/] <?> A HiotDgrapliic Sciences Corporation '^% <!^.^ ■ifl WEST MAIN STRHT W^BSTH.N.Y. MSIO (716)t72-4503 i^r %• 68 . . " 4. In order to facilitate such proper inquiries as Her Majesty's Oovenitnent may desire to make, with a view to the presentation of the Case of that Goverr.raent before Arbitrators, and in expectation that an agreement for arbitration may be artived at, it is agreed that suitable persons designated by Great Britain will be permitted at any time, upon application, to visit or tu remain upon the seal islands during the present sealing season for that purpose. " Signed and sealed in duplicate at Washington, this 15th day of June, 1891, on behalf of their respective Governments, by Sir Julian Pauncefote, G.C.M.G., K.C.B., Her Britannic Majesty's Knvoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary, and William F. Wharton, Acting Secretary of State of the United States. (Signed) "Julian Pauncefote. (Seal.) " William F. Wharton." (Seal.) Now know ye, that we have by this our Royal Proclamation caused the said Agreement to be made public, to the end that the same and every part thereof may be observed and fulfilled with good faith by all our loving subjects. Of all which our loving subjects and all others whom these presents may concern arc hereby required to take notice, and to govern themselves accordingly. In testimony whereof we have caused these our Letters to be made Patent, and the Great Seal of Canada to be hereunto affixed. Witness, our right trusty and welUbelovud the Right Honourable Sir Fredericii Arthur Stanley, Baron Stanley of Preston, in tiie county of Lancaster, in the Peerage of the United Kingdom, Knight Grand Crost; of our Most Honourable Order of the Bath, Governor-General of Canada. At our Government House, in our city of Ottawa, this 19th day of June, in the year of our Lord 189), and in the fifty-fourth year of our reign. By command, (Signed) J. A. CHAPLEAU, Secretary of State. No. 109. The Behring's Sea Commissioners to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received July 23.) My Lord, Ottawa, July 9, 1891. WE have the honour to request that your Lordship will be good enough to move the Japanese Government to supply us with information on the following points : — 1. Records of fur seal-skins brought to Japan for any years in the present century. 2. Localities where seal-skins arc taken. 3. Whether taken at sea or on shore. 4. Details of any known breeding places. 6. Whether, ond' if so what. Regulations are in force on breeding grounds. 6. List of vessels fitted out in Japan for fur-seal fishery in this and past seasons, and from what ports 7. Whether seal fishery has increased or decreased in recent years, with causes of such increase or decrease. 8. Any other information concerning Japanese seal fisheries, especially documentary evidence. We would venture to suggest to your Lordship that the Japanese Government should be requested to send such information on the above points as they may be able to procure direct to us, care of the Postmaster, Victoria, British Columbia. (Signed) ' GEORGE BADEN-POWELL. GEORGE M. DAWSON. P.8. — 1 have ventured to send a copy of this despatch, privately, to Mr. de Bunsen (Legation, Japan) to-day, in order to save valuable time. G. B-P. f""--" -■■ '■- "-" •" '- le, in the year No. no. Sir J, Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received July 23.) My Lord, Washitigton, July 14, 1891. IMMEDIATELY on the receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 13th instant, respecting the proposed compensation clause in the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agree- ment, I addressed a note on the subject to the Acting Secretary of State, of which 1 have the honour to inclose a copy. I iiftVfi £cc (Signed) ' JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Incloaure in No. 110. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Wharton. Sir, Washington, July 13, 1891. SINGE the receipt of your note of the 25th ultimo, of which I transmitted a copy to the Marquis of Salisbury, I have been in telegraphic communicntion with his Lordship respecting the two clauses (6 and 7) which, by direction of the President, yoii have proposed for adoption in the Behring's Sea Arbitration Convention, and also respecting the form of agreement for carrying out the arrangement for the npixiintment of a Joint Commission to inquire into the conditions of seal life in Beliring's Sea. I desire at present to confine myself to the clause proposed in your note which deals with the question of compensation, namely, clause 7. It is the only one which appears to me to niise any serious dilflculty, and I trust that, after considering the following observations, and with a view to ex| editing the conclusion of this negotiation, the President will not object to the substitution of a clause in the form which I shall presently have the honour to submit. Her Majesty's Govern- ment have no desire to exclude from the consideration of the Arbitrators any claim of compensation in relation to the Behring's Sea fisheries which the United States' Govern- ment may believe themselves entitled to prefer consistently with the recognized principles of international law. But they are of opinion that it is inexpedient, in a case involving such important issues and presenting such novel features, to prejudge, as it were, the question of liability by declaring that compensation shall be awarded on a hypothetical state of facts. Her Majesty's Government consider that any legal liability arising out of the facts as proved and established at the arbitration should be as much a question for argument and decision as the facts themselves ; and, in order that this should be made quite clear, and that both Governments should be placed, in that respect, on the same footing, I am authorized by Lord Salisbury to submit the following clause in substitution for the 7th clause proposed by the President : — " 7. Either Government may submit to the Arbitrators any claim for compensation which it may desire to prefer against the other Government in respect of any losses or injuries in relation to the fur-seal fishery in Behring's Sea, for which such other Government may be legally liable. "The Arbitrators shall decide on the legality of every such claim, and, if it shall bo established, they may award such compensation as in their judgr^ent shall seem equitable." I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 111. Sir J, Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received July 23.) (Telegraphic.) Washinylon, July 29, 1891. WrrH reference to my despatch of the 14th instant, on the subject of the Behring's Sea compensation clause, I have the honour to state that after long discussions, in the course of which I have insisted on the principle contended for in my above-mentioned despatch, I have to-day received a note from the United States' Government which is to tne following effect : — [See Inclosure in Sir J. Pauncefote's despatch of the 24th July, 1891 : Inclosure in No. lie*, infra.] it '■\ n M ► r; . I " -I- 70 No. 113. The Marquis of Salisbury to Mr. Fraser. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, July 24, 1891. THE following is urgent: — The British Commissioners in Bchring's Sea are anxious to receive information ou the follow iiig points : — fScc despatch from Behring's Sea Commissioners of the Oth July, 1891 : No. 109.] You Hhould forward any information you can obtain to the Bchring's Sei Commis. Hioiiers, addressed to the care of the Postmaster, Victoria, British Columbia, with as little delay as possible. No. 114. Sir R. Morier to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received July 27.) My Lord, St. Petersburgh, July 22, 1891. I HAVE this day received your Lordship's despatch of the 17th instant, in reference to the Fur-seal question and the Bchring's Sea, and have addressed to M. tie Giers the niite of which I nave the honour to inclose a copy herewith. I have, &c. (Signed) R. B. D. MORIER. Inclosurc in No, 114. Sir li. Morier to M. de Giers. M. Ic Minislrc, St. Petersburgh, July 10 (22), 1891. 1 HAVE not failed (o transmit to Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs the note which your Excellency did me tiie honour to address to me on the 14th (2Gth) June last, with reference to the Bchring's Sea Agreement concluded between Her Majesty's Government and that of the United States. With reference to the conditions on which your Excellency states that Russia would be willing to become a party to this Agreement, I am instructed to inform you that, although Her Majesty's Government would be very willing to enter into an arrangen cnt with Russia and the United States to prohibit sealing, during this season, to the west as well as to the east of the line "f demarcation mentioned in the Agreement, they underHtniid that the United States' Government are unable to do so without fresh legislation, which is not possible at this moment, as Congress is not in session. Any Agreement of tl:is nature for the present season could, therefore, only be made by Russia and Knglnnd alone, and it would have the effect of leaving the western portion of neliring's Sen open to United States' citizens while closing it to British and Russian subjects. _..,^] For this reason Her Majesty's Government do not think that such an arrangement would be desirable, and they believe that your Excellency, on consideration, will concur in their view. I avail, &c. (Signed) R. B. D. MOBIER. 24, 1891. rormatiun ou .891: , ; No. 115. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Paunce/ote, Sir, Foreign Office, July 27, 1891. I HAVE received your despatch of the I4th instant, inclosing copy of your note to the United Statos' Government respecting the compensation clause to be in.scrted in the proposed Agreement for arbitration on the Behring's Sea question. The terms of your note are approved by Her Majesty's Government. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. ■'■I V, Sea Commis- nbia, with as ) !y 22, 1891. it, in reference .. lie Gicrs the MORIER. (22), 1891. of State for rcss to me on cnt concluded Russia would form you that, arrangcn cnt to the west as reement, they without fresh on. ore, only be ig the western to Britisli and arrangement )n, will concur , MORIER. No. 116. Mr. Howard to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received July 29.) (Telegraphic ) St. Petersburgh, July 29, 1891. WITH reference to Sir Robert Morier's telegram of the 17th instant respecting the visit of the British Commission to the Russian seal-fisheries, I have thu honour to state that I have received a note from the Russian Government giving them the necessary permission and stating that instructions had been sent to the Governor- General of the Amoor Province to facilitate the object of their mission. No. 117. The Marquis of Salisbury to Mr. Howai d. Sir, Foreign Office, July 31, 1891. I HAVE received your telegram of the 29th instant, reporting that the Russian Government have authorized the British Commissioners in Behring's Sea to visit the RusHian seal fisheries, and that the Governor-General at Amoor has been requested to afibrd them every facility. I have to request you to convey to the Russian Government the thanks of Her Majesty's Government for their action in this matter. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 118. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received August 3.) My Lord, Washington, July 24, 1891. IN my despatch of the 14th instant I had the honour to transmit to your Lordship a copy of the note of the 13th which I addressed to the United States' Government, submitting the new clause in the Arbitration Agreement which I had been authorized by your Lordship to propose on the subject of damages. I have had several discussions at the State Department, in the course of which I have strongly contended for the principle that the validity of any claim put forward by either party should be left to the decision of the Arbitrators. This I consider a most important point, for it is highly improbable that the United States' Government should succeed in establishing their claim to an exclusive right of fishery on the high seas, except under a new rule of international law, based on excep- tional circumstances, and which the Arbitrators may lay down as applicable to the present case. If so, it would seem inequitable that Great Britain should pay dnmngcs for the infraction of an ex post facto rule of law. Moreover, a claim of damages for injury caused to the property of the Unhed States in the seal islands alleged to have been caused by pelagic sealing may be open to objection on the ground of its remott^ne.ss and of the impracticability of fixing any correct measure of compensation. I have felt much anxiety lest the President should persist in the endeavour to obtain a previous admission of liability on the part of Her Majesty's Government in a cuii<a i.^ ; , .•■ il ■■ 72 involving (as I stated in my note to the United States' Qovernment) such important issues and presenting such novel features. It was not until yesterday that I received the official reply of the United States' Government to my note of the 13th instant, of which i telegraphed the substance to your Lordship. I have tlio honour to inclose a copy of that reply, from which your Lordship will perceive that tlie President, wliilo maintaining that the United States would be justifud in insisting tiiat Her Majesty's Government should admit responsibility in certain event-;, is willing to waive that point, and to modify his proposals with a view to remove wliat seems to lie the last point of ditferencc in this protracted discussion. The President urges that tho clause should contain a statement in general terms of the claims which each Government deeires to prefer, and, in his reply, he proposes a ulh form in which the claims are so stated and left for the decision of the Arbitrators, thus conceding the principle for which 1 have contended. The statement of the British claim in this new clause appears to me to be too restrictive, as it would seem to exclude losses and injuries arising from interference with our vessels as distinguished from actual seizures, and takes no account of the personal claims of the British subjects imprisoned and otherwise damnified in the proceedings resulting from those seizures. J do not apprehend that the United Statos' Government will object to our claim being stated in our own terms ; and, subject to that modification, I venture to think that the clause now proposed by the President will be acceptable to Her Majesty's Govern- ment, and will practically bring this long negotiation to a satisfactory termination. I have, &c. (Signed) .JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 118. i J/r. Wharton to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Washington, July 23, 1891. THE President directs me to say, in response to your note of the 13th instant, that he noticed with pleasure the good progress towards a full agreement upon the terms of arbitration indicated by your statement that only the 7th clause, as proposed by this Government, appears to you " to raise any serious difficulty." That clause was thus stated in my note of the 25th June : — " It shall be competent to the Arbitrators to award such compensation as, in their judgment, shall seem equitable, to the subjects or citizens of Grsat Britain whose vessels may have been seized by the United States in the Behring's Sea, if such seizures shall be found by the Arbitrators to have been unwarranted ; and it shall also be competent to the Arbitrators to award to the United States such compensation as, in their judg. mcnt, !<hall seem equitable for any injuries resulting to the United States, or to the lessees from tha*. Government of the privilege of taking seals on the Pribyloff Islands, by reason of the killing of seals in the Behring's Sea by persons acting under the protection of the British flog, outside of the ordinary territorial limits, and since the 1st day of .January, 1886, if such killing shall be found to have been an infraction of the rigl'.ts of the United States." The objection you make to this clause is thus stated by you : — " Her Majesty's Government have no desire to exclude from the consideration of the Arbitrators nny claim of compcn.sation in relation to the Behiing's Sea fisheries which the United Spates' Government may consider themselves entitled to prefer consistently with the recognized principles of international law ; but thej are of opinion that it is inexpedient, in a case involving such important issues, and presenting such novel features, to prejudge, as it were, the question of liability by declaring that compeni»alion shall be awarded on a hypothetical state of facts. Her Majesty's Govern- ment consider that any legal liability arising out of the facts as proved and established at the arbitration should be as much a question for argument and decision as the farts themselves, and in order that this should be made quite clear, and that both Govern- ments should be placed in that respect on the same footing," &c. The President was not prepared to anticipate this objection, in view of the fact that Lord Salisbury, in his note of the 21st February last, had asked a specific submis- sion to the Arbitrators of the British claim for seizures made in the Behring's Sea. His language, which was quoted in my note of the 26th June, was as follows : — 7» 11 eral terms of " There is one omission in these questions which I have no doubt the GoTernment of the President will be very glad to repair, and that is the reference to the Arbitrator of the question, What damages are due to the persons who have been injured, in case it shall be determined by him that the action of the United States in seizing British vessels has been without warrant in international law P" This could only be understood as u suggestion that the claims of the respective Governments should he stated and given a specific reference. And so, in the 7th clause proposed, the claim of Great Britain for seizures made is defined and referred in terms so correspondent to the request of Lord Salisbury that it cannot be supposed objection would have been made to it if it had stood alone. But a particular statement of the British claim for compensation certainly made proper, and even necessary, a like statement of the claims of the United States, and the President is not able to see that the reference proposed was in any respect unequal. If it should be found by the Arbitrators that the United States had without right seized British vessels in the Behring's Sea, the Arbitrators were authorized to give compensation ; and if, on the other hand, these and other British vessels were found to have visited that sea, and to have killed seals therein in violation of the rights of the United States and to the injury of its property interest, the Arbitrators weie authorized to give compensation. One is not more subject to the objection that it presents a hypothetical state of facts than the other, and both submit the question of the lawfulness or unlawfulness of the acts complained of. The President believes that Her Majesty's Government may justly he held responsible under the attendant circumstances for iiguries done to the jurisdictional or property rights of the United States by the sealing-vessels flying the British flag, at least since the date when the right of these vessels to invade the Behring's Sea and to pursue therein the business of pelagic sealing was made the subject of diplon.atic intervention by Lord Salisbury. In his opinion, justice requires that Her ISlajesty's Government should respond for the injuries done by those vessels, if their acts arc found to have been wrongful, as fully as if each had borne a commission from that Government to do the acts complained of. The presence of the master, or even of a third person, under circumstances calculated and intended to give encouragement, creates a liability for trespass at the common law, and much more if his presence is accompanied with declarations of right, protests against the defence which the owner is endeavouring to make, and a declared purpose to aid the trespassers if they are resisted. The justice of this rule is so apparent that it is not seen how in the less technical Tribunal of an international arbitration it could be held to be inapplicable. The United States might well insist that Her Majesty's Government should admit responsibility for the acts of the Canadian sealers which it has so directly encouraged and promoted, precisely as in the proposal the United States admits responsibility for the acts of its revenun vessels. But with a view to remove what seems tj be tiie last point of difference in a discussion which has been very much protracted, the President is willing to modify his proposal, and directs me to offer the following : — " The Government of Great Britain having presented the claims of its subjects for compensation for the seizure of their vessels by the United States in Behring's E.?a, and the Government of the United States having presented on its own behalf, as well as of the lessees of the privilege of taking seals on the Pribyloff Islands, claims for compensation by reason of the killing of seals in the Behring's Sea by persons acting under the protection of the British flag, the Arbitrators shall consider and decide upon such claims in accordance with justice and equity and the respective rights of the High Contracting Parties, and it shall be competent for the Arbitrators to award such compensation as in their judgment shall seem equitable." The President thinks that a particular statement of the claims of the respective Governments is more likely to lead to a satisfactory result than the general reference proposed by you. It is believed that the form of reference now ^proposed by him removes the objections urged by you to his former proposal. I have, &c. (Signed) W. F. WHARTON, Acting Secretary. '\ u- I'M ■1;^: ■i .h\ im liB^"Hi HH 74 No. 119. Mr. Howard to the Mnrquit of Salisbury.— (Received Augvit 3.) My Lord, St. Petersburyh, July 29, 1891. WITH reference to my telegram of this day's dnte, I have the honour to transmit herewith to your Lordship a copy of a note of the ICth (i'8th) instant from M. de Giers to Sir Robert Morier, acquainting Her Majesty's Ambassador that Sir George Baden* Powell and Professor Dawson arc authorized to visit the Russian fisheries in the Behring's Sea, and statins that Baron Korff, Governor-General of the A moor Province, has been informed of this fact, and bos been requested to facilitate, as much as possible, the object of the mission of the above-named Commissioners. I have, &c. (Signed) HENRf HOWARD. Inclosore in No. 119. M. de Giers to Sir R. Morier. M. I'Ambassadeur, Saint-Pe'tersbourg, le 16 (28) Juillet, 1891. EN r^ponse a la note de rotrc Excellence en date du 27 Juin (U Juillet), je m'cmpresse de I'informer que Sir George Powell et le Professeur Dawson sont autoris^s k visiter nos p6cherics d'otaries dans la Mer de Behring. Je n'ai pas manquc' de porter cettc autorisation h la connaissance du Gouvemenr- General de la Province de I'Amour, Baron Kortf', en I'engageant h faciliter, autant que possible, nux snvants susmentionnes, I'accomplissemcnt de leur t&che. Yeuillez, Stc. (Sign6) OIERS. (Translation.) M. I'Ambassadeur, St. Petersburgh, July 16 (28), 1891. IN reply to your Excellency's note of the 27th June (9th July), I hasten to inform you that Sir G. Powell and Professor Dawson have been authorized to visit our seal fisheries in Behring's Sea. I have not failed to inform Baron Korff, the Governor-General of the Province of the Anioor, of this authorization, and to request him to assist the above-mentioned gentlemen as far as possible in the accomplishment of their task. I avail, &c. (Signed) GIERS. No. 120. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received Avgust 3.) Sir, Downing Street, August 1, 1891. WITH reference to your letter of the 9th May last, forwarding copies of a com- munication from Mr. C. Hawkins respecting the seal fishery in the Nortr; Pacific, I am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, for the information of the Marquis of Salisbury, copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, inclosing copy of a Minute of the Privy Council on the subject of Mr. Hawkins' statements. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAM8T0N. Inclosure 1 in No. 120. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Cascapedia River, New RichmoTul, P.Q., July 3, 1891. WrrH reference to your Lordship's despatch of the 20th May last, transmitting i copy of a letter from Mr. Hawkins on the subject of the seal fishery in Behring's Sea, J. have the honour to forward herewith • copy of an approved Minute of the Privy 76 Council, ambodying • Bcport of tbe Miniater of lUrine and Fialieries tloaliog (vith Ute question. I bavo, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PKBSTON. ice, hns been lAMSTON. Incloaure 2 in No. 120. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Oovcmor-Oeneral in Council on the 27th June, 1891. THE Committee of the Privy Council have had under consideration certain papers from the Colonial Office on the suhject of tiie seal fishery in Behring's Sea. The Minister of Marine :ind Fisheries, to whom the matter was referred, observes that Mr. Hawkins states "since .Tlmut t'.u; year ISHj we have received in tiiis country (England) large numbers of senl-skins, known in the trade as the nortli-west const skins, the same having been taken in the open sea, and. from appi'arantos tiint iire unmis- takable to the initiated, are exclusively the skins of female scnls prc;!:nnnt ; these arc all shot, and I have been informed that for every skin recovered five or six are lost through sinking when struck by the shot " The Minister furtiicr observes, in view of tlie numerous reports in which evidence of practical hunters nnd of other well-qualified authorities was .submitted, refuting state- ments similar to the assertion made in the letter under review touching the percentage of seals struck and secured by the sealers, it would seem that no necessity exists for a reiteration of the evidence embodied in the Minute of Council approved by your Excellency on the 4th November, 1889. The Minister, regarding the statement contained in Mr. Hawkins' communication as to what he terms the " north-west coast .skins,"' would advert to the contention of the Canadian Government to the eifcct that real danger to seal life is to be found in the operations upon the hauling-grounds and rookeries increased by the catch of seals when slowly moving along or sojourning on the north-west coast of America, the females being then un(iuesti(mably in pup, before the ultimate swift and direct journey to tiie rookeries has begun. These seals are the first taken by the sealing fleet on their way to the Bebring's Sea, and are distinguished by the sealers as the "coast catch," and by Mr. Hawkins as the " north-west coast skins." The Minister submits that the testimony produced by Mr. Hawkins in this con. nection is quite in accord with the information hitherto obtained, and is most valuable in support of the contention of Canada. It has been previously pointed out that although great stress had been placed by the United States' Government on the alleged necessity for prohibiting pelagic sealing in the Bebring's Sea, yet no attempt had ever been made by that Government for an arrangement to curtail similar operations along the coast previous to the entry of seals into that sea. In an attempt to vindicate the methods of the lessees of the seal islands, Mr. Hawkins proceeds: "We, on the other hand, during my experience have had annually large numbers of seal-skins frjm Alaska, and also from tlie Copper Islands, which are killed by being clubbed on i.ind, and are selected with judgment, being the the skins of young male seals : the older fighting or breeding males are spared." This is another presentation of tlie case of the United States' Govcriiment for the |irohibiling of every otlier character of sealing but that adopted by tlie lessees, so frequently combated by your E.vcellencys advisers. While the Minister ot Marine and Fifiberics does not deem it necessary to dwell at any length upon tlie point, he would, in passing, invite attention to the fact that notwithstanding this statement, the United States' Treasury agents now assert the contrary, and the Government ef the United states appear to be acting on the Reports of their Agenta. The Minister further observes that a Minute of Council dated the (iih June, 1891, dealt at considerable length with this subject, and it included the Annual Report (1890) of Special Agent C. J. Goff, in which an alurming state of aiiairs at the rookeries was revealed, due, it was stated, to the indiscriminate slaughter of seals and improvident operations of the lessees. In the opinion of the Agent and his assistants it had become necessary to enforce a total prohibition of the killing of seals for an indefinite period. The Minister submits that whatever significance Mr. Hawkins' statement may huft upon the abstract question ot the protection of seal life in the Pacific waters, it cm have bttt lUtle, if any, on the controversy between Great Britain and the United States, 40 [572] L 2 li:,-. the eril complained of, ercn if as great as alleged, occnra ontside the dispated area, or he himself implicH in his reference to the " north-west coast skins." Tiio Committee, on the recommendation of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, advise that your Kxcellency be moved to forward a copy of tiiis Minute to the Ili<;bt Uonourablc the Principal Secretary of State fur the Colonies, for the information uf Uer Majesty's Government. All which is respectfully submitted fur your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McQEB, Clerk, Privy Council. No. 121. The Behriny'n Sea Commiaaionera to the Marquia of Saliabury. — {Received Aur/uat 3.) Steam^ahip " Danube," at Victoria, Britieh Columbia, My Lord, July 1(5, 1891. WE have the honour to report tlint n-c met at Ottnwn on tlie Gth instant, and un the f>ame evening consulted with the Premier of Canada, Mr. Abbott, and the Minister of Marine, Mr. Tupper, on the subject of our mission. The Governor-Gcncial was absent from Ottawa, but kindly placed Government House at our disposal. We spent the 7th, Stli, and Otii July in Ottawa in consultation with Ministers and in collecting information and evidence. On the evening of the Dth instant we left Ottawa by troin direct for Vancouver, where we arrived on the 15th instant, and found the chartered steam>ship "Danube" awaiting us at the wharf according to our instructions. Admiral Hotham, C.B., bad crossed from Esquimalt to meet us, and informed us as to the very complete arrangements he had made for Her Majesty s ships in Bchring's Sea to assist us in every way. Shortly after our arrival a deputation, headed by Mr. Oppenheimer, Mayor of Vancouver, waited upon us on behalf of the sealing-vesscl owners in the city, with whom w e bad a most satisractory conference. We left Vancouver nt r.M.,and arrived nt Victoria this day at 1 A.M. At 10 a.m. we received, as by previous arrangement, an important deputation of the Roard of Trade and Sealers' Association, who gave us most valuable information, and willingly promised to procure more on certain points pending our return. We have also consulted other authorities in Victoria, and completed the equipment of the " Danube." We leave the port this evening bound for the Pribyloff Islands. We have, &c. (Signed) GEORGE BADEN-POWELL. GEORGE M. DAWSON. No. 122. The Marquia of Saliabury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, Auguat 12, 1891. I HAVE received your despatch of the 24th ultimo. The modification of the 7th Article of the Arbitration Agreement proposed by the President of the United States, and communicated in Mr. Wharton's note to you of the 28rd ultimo, contains the following words : — "The Government of the United States having presented on Us own behalf, as well as of the lessees of the privilege of taking seals on the Pribyloff Islands, claims for compensation by reason of the killing of seals in Bebring's Sea by persons acting under the protection of the British flag, the Arbitrators shall consider and decide upon such claims " These words involve the doctrine that Her Majesty's Government are liable to make good losses resulting from the wrongful action of persons sailing outside their jurisdiction under the British flag. It would be impossible for Her Majesty's Government to accept such a doctrine even at the bands of an Arbitrator. Nor can they admit that, by having asserted n diplomaticallj the right of nity peraons to do that which an Arbitrator rabsequentlj decides such pcrHoiig cannot do, tlicy arc mndo liable in damages. This 7th Article, which dcalH with the question of compeiiHation, is therefore likelj to give occasion for lengthy negotiations, and the question arises whether it would not be better, if the Government of the United States will agree to such a course, to sign the other six Articles as to which an agreement has been ar ived at, and to proceed with the trbitration, leaving the 7th Article to be treated separately P No. 128. The Marquis of Salitbury to Sir J. Pauneefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, August 22, 1891. I AM of opinion that it will be better for you to clearly recapitulate the grounds, as set forth in the telegram from this Office of the 12th instant, on which Her Mnjcsty's Government cannot agree to the wording of the 7th Article proposed by the PrcHident, and that, in lieu of it, you should propose one somewhat as followH : — " Either of the two Governments may submit to the Arbitrators any question of fact which it may wish to put before them in reference to the claims for compensation trhich it believes itself or its nationals to possess against the other. "The question whether or not, and to what extent, those facts, as determined by the Arbitrators, and taken in connection with their decision upon the other questions submitted to them, render such claims valid according to the principles of international lin-, shall be a matter of su1)se(|UL>nt negotiation, and may, if the two Powers agree, be I rcfi-rred in whole or in ytatt to the Arbitrators." This is not to be taken as a definitive wording, and the proposal should be so made I u to leave cither side free to amend it. No. 123». Sir O. Baden-Powell to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received August 23.) I (Telegraphic.) Seal Island, August 5, 1891. HAVE ascertained that this year's take of seals is already considerably in excess of 1 7,500. On the assumption that the limitation of catch begins only from the date of the signature of the modus vivemli, the United States' Agent continues to kill the seals. I I am posting despatch on this subject. No. 124. Sir J. Pauneefote to the Marquis of Salisburif. — {Received August 23.) I (Telegraphic.) Netcport, August 2S, 1891. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of yesterday respecting the clause in I the Behring's Sea Agreement on the question of damages, I have the honour to inform Ijour Lordship that I am writing an unofficial letter, marked Private, to the Acting I Secretary of State, based on the telegram above mentioned. No. 125. 7%e Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauneefote, |(TelegraphicO Foreign Office, August 26, 1891. I HAVE to request you to communicate to the United States' Government Sir IC. B. Powell's telegram of the dth instant, repeated in my preceding telegram, stating Ithat the United States' Agent at Seal Island continues to kill seals, although the number Itlready killed this year is materially in excess of the limitation agreed upon by the Inodus vivendi of the 1 5th June last. Tou should state that Her Majesty's Government are convinced that the President liill not permit any departure from the true spirit of the Agreement, and will take such IneasureB to insure its strict observance as may seem to him to be requisite. ( ■' ■n- a I TWfi»"sjfr:vTfj«^^o*j 78 No. 120. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquu of' italisburn. — (lieceived Auyust 31.) My Fionl, \einport, Angu-U 20, ISiJl. I TllANSMirrKl) to your b)r(Isliiii in my dcspiitcli of the 2:M .iiiiio last a copy of till' Arciiionmduin wliidi I comimmifatrd on tin- 24tli ol' that month to the Arliiin Socri'tary oi State, oniljodyinir tlic siilwtnncc ol" instructions issued to tlic Uritish cruizrrs in Uohrinij's Sea in imrsuanco of tiic modus <hfnili, and suif^^estinj; timt an Ai^rccnient. should he eonie to between tii>' (Jovernnient* of (Ireat Britain and tlm United States for mutual indemnities in respect of acts edinmitted hy tlie eruizers of one nation agiiinst the vessels of the other in exeeution of that modus rivendi. As I informed yo\ir l»rdship in my despateli of the 27th .lune, I reeeivod a enm- munientiim from llie Acfini; Secretary i)f Strife in reply, ac(iiiaintini,' ino that the; aixivc MemoRuidum had Iku'u immediately transmitted to the United States' Navy Di'piirt' ment. for their information. No answer, liowover, heini; received to the proposal contained in the latter portion of the Memorandum, T addressed a note on the Hth instant to .Mr. Wharton, copy of wliich I hav the honour to inclose, requestiny' to he informed, at liis earliest com. venieuce, of the views of the United States' (iovernment wi!h rcsjicet to the sui^i^csted Aitreement, and [ have now received a note from him, in reply, of which I liave also the Lunour to iaulose a copy. J have, &c. (Si!-ned) .lULlAX VAUNCEFOTlv. Inclosure 1 in No. 120. Sir '. Pauncefote to Mr. IVhurtoii. Sir, Nrwpoti, August 8, 1891. ON the 2.'jrd .Tun(> last I had the honour to place in your hands a Memorandum, emhoflyin;; the substance of the instructions issued to Uritish cruizcu's in Jiehring's „ in pursuance of the modus rirmdi si-jned on the l.'ith of that month. 'I'he ?.Iemoran(lum also contained ;i proposal lor an Ai^reement between the Govern- ments of (treat Kritain and of the rnitcl States lor mutual indemnities in respect of I acts committed by the criiizers of omr nation ai;;ainst the vessels of the othi-r in execution of the modus vireudi. To that i)r.)posal I have not as yet been favoured witli a reply, and I should be extremely ohliirod if you would bo i;oo(l enousjh to inform rac, at your earliest convenience, of the vie\\> of yoar (lovorumcnt with respect to the I sugfifcsted Ai?reement. I have, &c. (Sifrned) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTi: Inclosure 2 in No. 120. Mr. IVharton to 8ir ,1. Pauncefote. Sir, Department of State, H'aslihifjton, August 17, 1891. I HAVE the honour to acknowledu'c the rei-eipt of your note of the lird instant,! in which you refer to a Memorandum of the 2Urd .June, left with me the 2tth .June.f in which you submitted a proposal for an Ai^r(>ement betwcicn the (lovernmentsnfl Great Jlritain and the Uniteil States for mutual indemnities in r>'s|)!'ct of acts cora-T mitted by the cruizcrs of one nation aifains: the vessels of the otiier in tixecutioii of| the modus vivendi. Tlie I'resid(mt desires me to say, in :eply, that it scein> to him to l)e (itiite| unnatural that the two Uovernmt;nts, haviui,' conu* to a iViendly understanding as tos modus vivrndi; and the method of its enfoi-cemcMit, should anticipate or attemp SH'Ovide ajifainst j)ossible breaches or violations of duty by the vessels of either eoim.vj [t will be time (Mioua;h, in the i'ri^sideiit's opinion, wbi ii ■itlier (loveriimeiil li afjfaiast tho other a eonnilaint in this regard, to consider ihe (juestion of indemnitTl The President desires me to state that he hopes that no such (luestiou may .arise, lm| tliat he will be prepared to meet it in a friendly spirit, if, unlbrtunately, diftcreno should doTclop. ....._,. - „, ,^ . I have, &c. ■ " ■• (Sii^ncd) W. WHAETON. 79 »e3l.) f/u.i« '20, 18!n. i mio lust II ciipy til to till' ArtinR I to the Hritish i,'i;('stiiij; tliiit an Mritniti nnd tlip V till' cruizcrs of Vivendi. ri'ccivod a riira* le tliat till! above •s' Nuvy l)i'|);irt- the latter portion A'linrtou, copy of his rarliost con- to tilt! siii,'i,'Cstod hich I havt! also iUNCEFOTK. .4i/(/i/(»<S, 1891. I a Memorandum, | s in Belirin!?^. tweon tli« Govern- [lilies in respect of | of the otlii'i' in i(!en favoured with ,'h to inform mc, itli respect to the 'AUNCEFOTi:. Auijust 17, 1801 the :ird iast;int, ine the 2tth June, le Governments of s)):'ct i)t" acts cora KM' in iixecutiono ) him to he (luitc dcrstanding as ton !ite or attempt to sof eitluM-eouirvy Acriimi'iiV loil.'^ it ion of indemnity ition may .arise, 1)U uuatcly.'differonee (v. WnAETON. No. 127. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salitbury. — {Received September 7.) My Lord, SWport, Aufjust 2P, 1891. Wrrn roferoneo to your Lordship'"! telojjrftm of the 22nd instant, I have the honour to incloBC copy of the privale iind unollicinl htlir "Inch I liavi- addressed to the Acting Secretary of iStatc. relnling to the compensation clause in the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 127. Sir J. Pauncvfote to Mr. Wharton. (Private and Unodicia].) Dear Mr. Whnrton, Newport, August 26, 1891. IN my reply to your official note of the 22nd instant I stated that I hoped to be able to send an ans er to your note of the 2.'hd ultimo in a few days. Before doing so, however, I am anxious to explain to you privately and unofficially, as I would do verbally were I in Washinjiton, tiie nhjection which my (Jovernment entertain to the latest form of clause rilalinir tr. con., , i 'ition, which lias been proposed by the Presiilent for iuloption as .Xrticio 7 in the Ik-hr. i . < Sea Arbitration Afireeinent. Such a privtite nnd unollicial o\ciuiii,i;e of vifws at tlii; point of the negotiations ni.ay abridge the ollicinl enrrcsponilence, and fac'lil ite a soiution of the present ditliculty, on the basis of a suggestion whicii you made when v disciu. jd tin (piestion informally ;vt Washington. My (Jovernment are unable to atccpt the form of clause proposed by the Presii'.nt, because it appears to them, taken in connection witli your note of the 'l,Ad Ultimo, to imply an admission on their part of a toi nine respecting the liability of Governments lor the acts of their nationals or other persons sailing under their Hag on the high seas, wliieh is not warranted by interintiontii law, and to which they cannot subscribe. I need hardly say that the discussion of such a point (which after all may never arise) must prolong the negotiation indefinitely. Moreover, it seems preinaiure to enter into such a discussion before the other questions to be submitted ti *he Arbitrators have been determined, and all the facts on which any lialiilily can arise have been ascertained. Your suggestion, to which I have referred, was to leave out altogether fh.o question of damages from the Arbitration Agreement, and you may remember that, at the time, I did not encourage the idea, not ap[)rehending that the clause would give rise to such protracted discussion, and being, moreover, anxious that the settlement to be arrived at should embrace and finally dispose of every point in controversy. There is a middle course, however, whicli appears to me to commend itself, from every point of view, as a practical and logicid solution of the present dilllculty. It is to omit the 7th clause as to compensation, and to insert, in its place, a clause referring to the Arbitrators any question of fact which either Government may put to them with reference to the claims for eompeiisalioii it believes itself to possess. The application of the facts to international law might be a matter for negotiation after they are determined, and, if the two Govermnents agree, might be referred, in whole or in part, to the Arbitrators. The clause might be worded .as follows : — "Clause?. Either of the two Governments may submit to the Arbitrators any question of fact which it may wis^h to put before them in reference to the claims for compensation which it believes itself or its nationals to pissess against the other. " The question whether or not, and to what extent, these facts as determined by the Arbitrators, and taken in connection with their decision upon the other questions submitted to them, render such claims valid, according to the principles of international law, shall be a matter of subsequent negotiation, and may, if the two Powers agree, be referred, in whole or in part, to the Arbitrators." I do not, of course, propose the above woniinj, .as definitive. It should be open to amendment on either side. But if, after submitting it to the President, you should be able to inform me privately that such a clause, under the circumstances, would be acceptable to your Government, I would then address you officially in reply to your note of the 2Srd ultimo, and formally make the above proposal, stating the gtotttid ott which it li bued. r 'fi V i 1 t' \ Ill ^ ' fe l' :^ * P f- '•- • f---, li 111 7 ■• i li ' h ■■■■t " W/JMH I ^^'^^^^fM^^' f ppppip wmmm" wmm^f^ 80 Hoping that this mode of settlement of the last point in dispute will meet with your approval, and that this effort, on my purt, to bring the negotiation at once to a satis- factory termination may be successful, I remain, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. tr : : , ,, ■ No. 128. , ■ ■: ■' Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received September 7.) My Lord, Newport, August 28, 1891. WITH reference to my other despatch of this date, I have the honour to transmit herewith copy of the uote of the 16th instant from the Acting Secretary of State, referred to in the inclosure to my above-mentioned despatch, in which Mr. Wharton inquired when an answer may be expected to his note of the 23rd ultimo, relating to the proposed compensation clause in the Behriug's Sea Arbitration Agreement. (Signed) ' JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 128. Mr. Wharton to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Department of State, Washington, August 22, 1891, EEFERRING to my note to you of the 23rd ultimo, relative to the proposed agreement of Arbitration of certain matters affecting the seal fisheries in Behriug's Sea, I would be extremely obliged if you would be kind enough to inform me when an answer to the same may be expected. I have, &c. (Signed) WILLIAM F. WHARTON, Acting Secretary. No. 129. Behring's Sea Commissioners to the Marquis of Salisbury.— {Received September 8.) Steam-ship " Danube," at St. Paul Island, Alaska, My Lord, August 5, 1891. WE venture to think it desirable that we should at once report to your Lordship on certain points which have come to our knowledge in relation to Article 2 of the modus Vivendi, and we inclose copy of a letter which we deemed it right to address to tlie Treasury Agent representing the United States' Government on the PribylofE Islands. We send with this despatch to the nearest telegraph office, which is 2,000 miles distant, a telegram of which the following is a paraphrase : — "Pribyloff Islands, 5th August. — Have the honour to inform your Lordship that this year's take of seals already considerably exceeds 7,500. " The Agent of the United States' Treasury continues to allow seals to be killed on the assumption that the limited catch is to commence from the date of the signing of the modus vivendi. Despatch follows by mail." Immediately on our arrival here we established relations with the officials of the Government and of the North American Commercial Company of a most friendly character, and they have given us every aid and assistance in our inquiries. But »c speedily discovered that before the date of our arrival here (28th July), at the loweot estimate 8,800 seals had been killed this season, and that it was in contemplation to kill at least several hundred more. We had understood especially from Mr. Wharton's letter to Sir J. Pauncefote of the 6th June, 1891, that the Agents of the Treasury Department had been instructed by order of the President to stop the killing when 7,dOO seals had been taken, and v. it the Government of the United States had taken every precaution to insure the observa' tion of the stipulation to limit the catch to 7,500. ^t St, P»ul we were informed that (be Treasury Agent bad been iostruoted on the .inoits ''^- -*''h;t^-"t mm [ meet with your once to a satis- UNCEFOTE. nber 7.) igust 28, 1891. )nour to transmit ;retary of State, ich Mr. Wharton Itimo, relating to eement. lUNCBFOTE. ugust 22, 1891. to the proposed in Behring'8 Sea, e when an answer lrton, cting Secretary. September 8.) Island, Alaska, your Lordship on e 2 of the modus to address to the ■ibylofE Islands, ch is 2,000 miles inr Lordship that als to be killed on of the signing of le officials of the , most friendly nquiries. But »e dy), at the lowest itemplation to kill J. Pauncefote of d been instructed en taken, and ;. it nsure the observa- iostruoted on tho 27th May to keep the quota of skhis taken by the Company nndcr 7,500, and that en route to tlie i.ilamis he was advised by telegraph to interpret his instructions in accordance with the United States' Proclamation. He arrived at the Pribyloff Islands on the 10th June, but the said Proclamation did not reach the islands until the 2nd July. In tho meantime, we find that when the quota of 7,500 seals had been killed (by the •20th June), all killing for the Company was stopped. The Treasury Agent explained to us that he had much difficulty in interpreting the Proclamatidn when it arrived, as hn received no supplementary instructions with it. After full consideration lie decided to permit killing "for food " to continue apparently on the assumption that the limit of catch to 7,500 was to commence from the date of signing the modus virendi, that is on the loth June. Wo have been informed that already 1,400 seals hare been killed in excess of the above number as "food seals," and that on tlie same assumption it is contemplated that perhaps 2,000 more will be killed this season. The agent has given orders that no killing shall take place during the coming " stagey " season (which lasts from the beginning of August until the end of October), the skins being then of little value, but he has explained that the killing would be again resumed after that interval. We may add that the skins killed for food become the property of the Lessee Company, and that therefore the total number of seals to be killed and placed to the credit of the Company during this season w ould exceed by S.OOO, the 7,500 contemplated under tiic modus tiiendi. AV'c iray observe that the market value of 7,500 skins would probably reach a total of 30,0( 0/. Tiie Lessee Conipiiny arc bound to provide dweliinirs, church, school acconiniodation, and 10 ) tons of coal for the natives, and to support the \viilo\v.s and orplinns and the aged and infirm, hut they arc under no legal obligation to furnish food for the inhabitants generally. Wc learned, however, that they have made every prepara- tion to provide the necessary food, and that the whole expenditure on all counts until next spring would not exceed 5,000/. Wc examined the stores on the two islands and found ample supplies for all demand?, of the coming winter. Whether the ultimate charge of feeding the natives will fall on the Government of the United States or on the Lessee Company, it is equally certain that in addition to the flesh of 7)500 seals, the value of their skins will far more than repay any expenditure incurred in default of the wages earned when the full quota of seals is killed. We feel it to be our duty, in view of the submission of the whole question to arbitration, to take the speediest means of drawing your Lordship's attention to the manner in which we have found that clause 2 of the modus vivendi is being dealt with on the Prib^ loff Islands, in order that, if necessary, the promptest steps may be taken to draw the attention of the authorities at Washington to the matter. We may add that as our means of ctmimimication are very uncertain, we have inclosed a copy of the telegram, as quoted above, in a despatch to the Governor-General of Canada, with a request that he will be good enough to inquire by telegraph whether it has duly reached your Lordship, and in the event of its not having done so, that he will transmit it in cypher through the Secretary of State for tho Colonies. We have, &c. (Signed) GEORGE BADEN-POWELL. GEORGE M. DAWSON. Inclosure in No. 129. Behring's Sea Commissioners to Major Williams. I^eav Sir,^ Steam-ship "Danube," at St. Paul, .hhj .30, 1891. WITH reference to our conversation of the 28th instant, relative to the limitation of the number of seals to be killed under the ngreement come to by the Governments of the United States and Great Britain, wc think you maybe glad to receive this expression of our opinion, based upon the information in our possession, that the intention of the two Governments as conveyed by Article 2 of the modus virendi was, that on the jiart of the United States the stipulation would be strictly observed to limit the catch this season to 7,600 seals, and to stop the killing when that number had been taken. As you were good enough to invite our opinion on the above subject, we venture to [572] JJ ^l .1 V.' f u LJi . . '. f ■ I 1 f, ■u i ! ilim»JltU«||l {ilaee it in your hands, although the question is apart from the immediate scope of our nquiry. We remain, &c. (Signed) GEORGIi; BADEN-POWELL. GEORGE M. DAWSON. No. 130. Behring's 8ea Commissioners to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received September 8.) Steam-ship " Danube," at St. Paul Island, Alaska, My Lord, August 6, 1891. IN continuation of our despatch of the 16th July, we iiave the honour to report that after a passage of seven and a>half days from Victoria we reached Kiuliuk Harbour, Oonalaska I.sland, on the 24th ultimo. There we gathered information from various residents, and arranged future plans witli the Senior Naval Otfider in Behring's Sea, Captain Turner, R.X., of Her Majesty's sliip " Nynii)he." As we were leaving for the Pribylotf Islands, the United St ites' surveying-vessel "Albatross" arrived at Oonalaska, having on board Professor Mendenhall and Dr. Merriam ; ue therefore delayed our departure for a few hours in order to make their acquaintance. \Vc then proceeded direct to the Pribylotf Islands, being accom- panied by Mr. Tingle, Superintendent of the North American Commercial Company, whom we met at Oonalaska, and to whom we offered a i)assage to St. Paul Island. We investigated all the seal rookeries and hauling-grounds on the island, and obtained a large mass of evidence from the officers of the United States' Government and of the Company, as well as from the natives, on the subject of seal life. The "Albatross" arrived at St. Paul on the evening of the 28th July, and in b conference with Professor Mendenhall and Dr. Merriam, we explained to them the terms of our commission ; they, however, informed us that, having as yet received no formal commission from their Government, they were unable to en'-er into any formal discussion with us on tiie subject of our inquiry, but that they hoped at some future date to meet ns for this purpose at Washington or elsewhere, their object in the meantime being to acquire for themselves such local knowledge as would enable them better to understand the large quantity of documentary evidence respecting seal life in the possession of the United States' Government. On the 31st July we left for St. George Island, taking with us Dr. Merriam. We examined all the breeding-grounds on that island and obtained much additional informa- tion from the Government Agents and employe's of the North American Commercial Company there. After full and careful inquiry into the various questions connected with the habits and treatment of the seals on tlit Pribyloff Islands, we are this day proceeding to cruize at sea for the purpose of examining the habits of the fur-seals in those parts of Behring's Sea, where we gather from the information we have received that there will be the best opportunities for such observations. Her Majesty's ship " Pheasant " has been detailed to cruize with us, and we shall thus obtain valuable assistance in our investigation.s, while at the same time she will have the best opportunities of falling in with any schooners still remaining in Behring's Sea. We have, &c. (Signed) GEORGE BADEN-POWELL. GEORGE M. DAWSON. No. 131. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received September 8.) ► . ■ ■ (Telegraphic.) Newport, September 8, 1891. I HAVE the honour, with reference to my despatch of the 28th ultimo on the subject of the compensation clause in the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement, to inform your Lordship that I have received a private and unofficial answer from the Acting Secretary of State to the following effect : [See Mr. Wharton to Sir J. Paimcefote, September 7, 1891, Inclosurc in No, 135.] scope of our POWELL. SON. itember 8.) md, Alaska, jour to report ached Kiuliuk orniation from r in Beliring's irveying-vessel mdenliall and Older to make , being accom- ■cial Company, 1 Island, he island, and ;s' Government fe. July, and in b them the terms eived no formal )rmnl discussion ire date to meet antime being to to understand ossession of the Iderriam. We tional informa- can Commercial with the habits ceding to cruize irts of Behring's will be the best us, and we shall time she will ing in Behring's le N-POWELL. WSON. iber 8.) mber 8, 1891. 28th ultimo on tion Agreement, tnswer from the in No. 135.] No. 1S2. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received September 11.) Sir, Downing Street, September 10, 1891. WITH reference to ])reviouR correspondence, I am directed by Lord Knutaford to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, inclosing copy of a despatch from Sir Julian Pauncefote, together with an approved Minute of his Privy Council, concurring in a Report by the Minister of Marine and Fisheries on the subject of certain Reports and papers relating to the conditions of seal life in the Pribyloff Islands. I am, &c. (Signed) K. H. MEADE. Inclosure 1 in No. 132. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Stanley House, Neiu Richmond, P.Q., August 18, 1891. I CAUSED to be referred, for the consideration of my GovernuKnt, a copy of a despatch from Her Majesty's Minisiter at Washington, covering copies of Reports of the United States' Government Agents stationed on the Pribyloff Islands, which were laid before Congress in February Inst ; also an extract from the " Cleveland News and Herald" of the 4th May, 1891, containing the introduction to Professor Elliot's voluminous Report on the condition of seal life in the Pribyloff Islands during the summer of 1890, which did not jiccompany those presented to Congress; and I have now the honour to transmit to your Lordship a copy of an approved Minute ot" the Privy Council concurring in a Report appended thereto by the Minister of Marine r iid Fisheries on the subject. I have also the honour to inclose a copy of the above despatch from Sir Julian Pauncefote ; and for the inclosures I would refer your Lordship to the British print, "United States No. 2 (1801):" " Further Correspondence respecting the Behring's Sen Seal Fisheries," p. 12, Appendix, Inclosure in No. 1 ; also p. 53, Inclosure 2. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosure 2 in No. 132. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council on the 3rd August, 1891. THE Committee of the Privy Council have had under consideration a despatch* dated the Ci'n t May, 1891, from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington, covering copies of Reports of the United States' Government Agents stationed in the Pribylotf Islands, which were laid before Congicss in February last ; also an extract from the ''Cleveland News and Herald" of the ith May, 1891, containing the introduction to Professor Elliot's voluminous Report on the oonditiou of seal life on the Pribyloff Islands during the summer of IS'.iO, which did not accompany those presented to Congress. The Minister of Marine and Fisheries, to whom the despatch was referred, submitsi the annexed Report, dated the 25th July, 1891, upon the subject under consideration. The Committee concur tiierein, and on the recommendation of the Minister of .Marine and Fisheries advise that your Excellency be moved to forward a copy of this Minute to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for the informa- I tion of Her Majesty's Government. All which is respectfuUv submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Cla'k of the Privy Council. ™ F 1 ■ 'it 1 '■ w i h 1 M ■ ■■ 1^ 1 ^ 1 1 iji ' m ii"' ••iTOJ M 2 81 IncloKure 3 in No. 132. Report. To his Excellency the Governor-General in Council. THE Uncleisi<»ned has had referred to him n despatch from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington, dated tlie 22nd May, 1891, eovcrinjj copies of Reports of the United States' Government Agents stationed on the Prihyloff Islands, which were laid hcfore Congress in Fehrunry last ; also an extract from the " Cleveland News and Herald " nt the 4th May, 1891, containing the introduction to Professor Elliot's voluminous Report on the condition of seal life on the Prihyloff Islands during the summer of 1890, which did not accompany those presented to Congress. It will be remembered that on the 27th May last the Undersigned had the honour of reporting to your Excellency upon the statement of Special Agent Goff and his assis- tants, in which he at some length reviewed the statements therein contained. Tiiis lieport was approved by your Excellency on the 6th June, 1891, and the Undersigned would now invite attention thereto. He had at that time occasion to regret that the ex parte Re\wTt of Mr. Henry W. Elliot, to which reference had frequently been made, had been withheld from publication, and not communicated to the Canadian Government. The newspaper extract now referred to the Undersigned, however, contains a lengthy introduction to this Report of Mr. Elliot, apparently embracing the principal features dealt with in detail in the body of his Report. This article is prefaced by the statement that Mr. Blaine is, through this Report, in possession of information not previously at his disposal, which, it is argued, cannot fail to impress upon all concerned the necessity for immediately preventing the killing of seals in the open waters of Behring's Sea ; but it is to be noticed that the prepDnderancc of the evidence referred to in the Report is entirely opposed to that particular view. It is submitted that the Report really aims at the operations on the breeding islands by the lessees of the United States' Government. Mr. Elliot sa^ . : — " I embarked upon this mission with only a faint apprehension of viewing anything more than a decided diminution of the Prihyloff rookeries, caused by pelagic sealing during the last five or six years, but from the moment of my landing at St. Paul's Islam! on the 21st of last May, until the close of tlic breeding season, those famous ' rookeries' and * hauling-grounds ' of the fur-seals thereon, and of the St. George Island, too, began to declare, and have declared, to my astonished senses the tact that their utter ruin and ex.ermination is only a question of a few short years from date, unless pronqit and th( ough measures oi" relief and protection are at once ordered on sea and on land i)y tha Treasury Department and enforced by it." He enters into a lengthy explanation of the reasons for the discrepancy between his present stateinent and the views expressed by him with regard to the inexhaustible Siipplv of seals upon the rookeries during the term of 1872-74, when he was " firmly satislied that, as matters were then conducted there was no reason to fear injury to the regular annual supply of male life necessary to the perpetuation of the rookeries. He gives as reasons for his complete change of opinion, and for now tinding " only a scant tenth of the number of young male seals which I [he] saw there in 1872," > following : — "1. From over-driving without heeding, its warning first begun in 1879, dropped then until 1882, then suddenly renewed again with increased energy from year to year until the end is abruptly reached, this season of 1890. "2. From the shooting of fur-seals (chiefly females) in the open waters of the North Pacific Ocean and Behring's Sea, began a business in 18SG, and continued to date." It will he observed that this second reason is given for the decrease principally of young males, while further on in the same Report, and throughout the whole controversy, pelagic sealing is and has been held to be p.irticnlarly destructive to females. Unlike all previous Reports of United States" Treasury Agents, this takes the initia- tive in ascribing the alleged enormous decrease of seal life on the rookeries primarily to the lessees of the breeding-islands ; but, like all others, it reiterates the oft-refuted statement that the shooting of fur-seals (chiefly females) in the open waters of Behring's Sea and the North Pacific Ocean is responsible, though secondarily, for the alleged diminution of seals on the breeding-grounds. .h'^ "-'■"■■■ ^..I»jJ..1. ,mA-.-.. /, 86 It is worthy of notice that tins appears to be the first occasion upon which United States' Special Agents have attributed the falling-off to tlie operations of sealers in the North Pacific Ocean outside Hehiin^'s Sea ; and to this, no doubt, is due the extension of the ground recently proposed by Mr. lilainc to bj covered by the arbitration. It will not be forgotten tliat the Undersigned, when refuting the statements as to the killing of females in Behring's Sea ^tlie only waters under dispute), has frequently shown that it might be true that the pursuit of seals along the coast and outside Behring's Sea was destructive by reason of the killing of females with pup, during their slow movements before they enter that sen, but that, after entering, the females made a swift passage to the rookeries in a bee-line, and the danger no longer existed. The question in dispule is not as to the destruction of seal life outside Behring's Sea, but the right of the United f^lnttvs (o nu)no[)olizo the .seals in Behring's Sea to the extent of excluding other nations tVoni their jiursuit in tiiosc waters. The authorized Agents of that Government have, in the past, either failed in their duty, or were unable to appreciate the significance of tlic gradual and certain decline of the seals dwelt upon by Mr. Elliot; for he now reports that not until 1889 has there been the slightest intimation in the annual declarations of the otficers of the Government of the least diminution or decrease of seal life on these islands since his work of 1874 was given to the world. lie disci edits tiio statements of these Agents as irreconcilable with the evidence of the decrease in the supply of \ oung nuile seals. The I'nder.signed calls attention to the striking fact that the serious decrease now alleged has occurred, it is stated, principally in the case of young males, while the United States' Agents still persist in blaming pelagic sealing for its alleged disastrous results to females. This position would appear to be a.s diflicull of reconciliation as the statements of the other Agents are thought by Mr. I'llliot to be. A glance at his figures, which he states are so carefully and accurately compiled, disclo.ses the fact that the percentage of the decrease in females is 62^, while that in young seal pups is over 75. Mr. Elliot proceeds : " Naturally enough, being so long away from the field, on reading Mr. Charles J. GofF's Report for the season's work of 1889, I at once Jumped to the conclusion that, the pelagic sjaling, the poaching, of 188G-88 was the sole cause f the shrinkage which he declareil manifest on those rookeries and hauling-grounds of tiiC Pribyloff Islands " And he goes on to say that even then, after calculating the number of skins placed on the market by pelagic scalers, he could not satisfactorily charge the whole decrea.se to them. He states that the class from which 85 per cent, of the pelagic catch is drawn are " females and young-oorn and nnbOi'n ;" and while he expected this to work damage to the rookeries, he was wholly unprepared for an estab- lishment of the correctness of Mr. Goffs Report. " After an entire new and topographical survey and triangulation of the landed area of the seven rookeries of St. Paul Ishnd and those of St. George Island," Mr. Elliot is impressed with the bad effect of " driving ' the seals for years, which practice, in his opinion, renders them unfit for service on the breeding-rookeries, " being utterly demoralized in spirit and body," and this is now admittedly the principal cause of the reported decrease in seal life. According lO Mr. Elliot, pelagic sealing, or " poaching," as he terms it, commenced in 1880. It continued under the harassing and embarrassing interference of the United States' authorities down to and including the year 1889— just four years. He describes the rookeries to have been " in spendid condition," .... when " they passed into the hands of the United States." Now, after twenty-two years of killing operations on the islands, he suddenly iliscovcrs reasons to fear extermination of the seal species, and attributes the faliing-off in a great degree to four years of pelagic sealing, beginning in 188G ; in the face of this statement, in the same Report, that " that day in 1879 when it became necessary to send a sealing gang from St. Paul village over to Zapodnie to regularly drive from that hitherto untouched reserve, was the day that danger first appeared in tangible form since 1870 — since 1857 for that matter." That is to say, seven years before much-abused ptdagie sealing, according to Mr. Elliot, bad begun. Thus, in the opinion of the Undersigned, in the light of this and similar Reports, are his repeatedly expressed views vindicated, as also is the fact established that the protec- tion to seal life on the islands, provided by the United States' Government, is and has been wholly inadequate. The Reports, however, reveal another fact entirely opposed to the contentions of the United States' authorities nnd Agents, and of Professor Elliot himself. This fact is, that m 1 1 it iiJ UI'KIIII'I 9$ the whole system of conducting the scaling industry, en the only places where it has been held seals could be protected, has been conceived and based upon lamentably erroneous ideas. The state of affairs Uuis recorded affords a fitting commentary ui)on a system of protection uhicli will admit of the constant intorferencc, dealing torlurc r.: I death to these animals in a wild state, on grounds chosen bv Ihem for annually perfoiming their functions of procreation. It is opposed to tlic (hst instinct of all animal nature — that of self-preservation — and is admirably adopted to driving the seals from the breeding, rookeries to seek other haunts. While the Undersigned docs not consider it necessary in this connection to refer to the question of right raised by the term " poacher," as applied by Mr. Jilliot to pelagic sealers, this question being one atfecting an entirely distinct feature in the controversy in no way connected with the question of the preservation of seal life, he desires in passing to b.iefly state tl;c following: — It has been clearly established that no attempt lias ever been made by any of the Canadian sealing fleet to operate within the territorial waUrs of the United States. The unwarranted interference by United States' rcvenuc-ciittcrs has in every case been out in the open waters of the sea, free to them and to tiic subjects and citizens of all other nations. In his Report Mr. Elliot dwells at con-iderablc length upon the history of the settling industry of the Pribyloff Islands under the l»us^iaii rule i)rcvious to tlic acquisi- tion of these islands by the Government of tlic United States. He argues that to the fact that in those earlier days the skins were air-dried (not salted as now) is due the fact that the seals were not years ago exterminated, the work of sealing being then far slower and much more difficult than now. In his opinion the inability to rapidly cure the skins for shipment alone saved the Pribyloff rooke:ies from utter extermination, as at least thirteen trading organizations were enga>;ed on these islands continuously for seventeen years in taking the fur-seal skins ; and he believes, had they possessed the knowledge of salt curing now in vogue, tlicy would have killed every fur-seal which showed itself. Yet further on he (juotes from Bishop Veniaminov, that, in 1803, 800,000 seal-skins had accumulated, of which 700,000, having spoiled, had to be cut or tlnown into tiie sea. Thus on one occasion enough skins were destroyed to oover seven years of the total take of the former American lessees, or nearly twelve years' take of the present Company, under the terms of their lease, adopting the basis of 00,000 skins per annum. The system, or even want of system, which permitted such drains as this upon the seal life of these islands by so many Companies must have been less hurtful to seal life than the organized methods pursued under the supervision of the United States' Govern- ment; for though the earlier sealers did not know how to preserve the skins when they got them, the present lessees, it is alleged, cannot get them to preserve, though only one organization has been engaged for twenty-two years, as against thirteen organizations indiscriminately working lor seventeen years; and the one organization began operations with the rookeries admittedly in " splendid condition," and considered by Mr. Elliot to be practically inexhaustible. This opinion of Mr. Elliot might have been correct in the main, but it is evident some otlier and more provident method of reaping the seal harvest on the islands must be devised if the stock is to be perpetuated. The Undersigned sees no reason to reverse iiis opinion as to the relative effect upon the rookeries of hunting seals in the open waters of Hciiring's Sea, nor can lie conceive it possible that such method of sealing could muterially a>sist in bringing about the disastrous results now alleged. In iiis opinion it could have no move effect upon the permanency of the sealing industry than would the legitimate pursuit of any other business in like manner. Mr. Elliot concludes by stating that, after a careful review of his investigations, he is warranted in urging — " 1. That no driving and killing of fur-seals for tax and shipment on the seal islands of Alaska be permitted by the Government for a period of at least seven years from date (1890) ; and " 2. That the co-operation of Great Britain and Russia be secured in perfecting our international close time, by which all killing of fur-seals in the open waters of Behring's Sea will be prohibited during the breeding season of these animals, and in order that the Representatives of Great Britain and Russia may see the truth of my statement as to what threatens to exterminate these animals if pelagic sealing as well as terrestrial sealing is not at once stopped, that a Commission of British, Russian, and American My bere it lias lamentably , system of I death to 1 tning their 10 — that of > breeding. J to refer to t to pelagic controversy i desires in ■ any of the iltatcs. The been out in of all other story of the tlic acquisi- tliat to the due the fact en far slower ne saved the jrganizations r the fur-seal ow in vogue, n he (|uotcs ted, of which one occasion ■ the former ler the terms bis upon the |ul to seal life tes' Govern- s when they ugh only one organizations m operations I Mr. Elliot to lit is evident islands must le effect upon lie conceive it l<i- al'out the id upon the )f any other ligations, he seal islands irs from date Icrfecting our lof Behring'S Irdcr that the Itcmcnt as to IS terrestrial id American 97 experts be invited to visit the seal islands next summer, and report fairly upon the Bubject." The first of these propositions, which docs not affect the Canadian sealers, the Undersigned considers calls for no further reference beyond the remark (even in the light of Mr. Elliot's Report) tliat it is somewhat remarkable that only at this late date, after over twenty years of annual operations under Government supervision, that the United States' Government is possessed of infurmation upon which it bases the necessity for such a drastic measure. On the second proposition the Undersigned remarks that the recent ncgoUntions, resulting in the present modus vivendi, and the departure of the British and Canadian experts for the scol islands to report upon the conditions of seal life, dispose for the time being of the main feature contained therein. Before leaving the subject, however, the Undersigned desires to invito the attention of your Excellency to the words, '• in perfecting our international close time, by which all killing of fur-seals in the open waters of Behring's Sea will be prohibited during the breeding season of these animals." contained in the second proposition. The words italicized by the Undersigned appear to imply the existence of an inter- national close lime for seals in the open waters of Behring's Sea, which it is proposed to perfect. This is misleading, as no sucli close time exists, and the only Regulations pertaining to the seal fishery of Behring's Sea are provided by enactment of the United States' Congress, and applicable to tlie citizens of that nation alone. With regard to the remainder of tlie quotation, the Undersigned observes that this question is included in the sunject of the inquiry now proceeding. The Undersigned, however, would again revert to the proposal forwarded by Sir Julian Pauncefote to Mr. Secretary Blaine, 13th April, 18!)(), which provided for just and equitable close times for seals in Behring's Sea, covering the migrations to and from the breeding-grounds ; and which was rejected by the United States' Government. A close season based upon the wording of the present proposition, " during the breeding season," might, by a strained or technical interpretation of what length of time the breeding season covered, be made practically exclusive by fixing the dates to cover the whole term, beginning with the first entrance into Behring's Sea, and ending with the departure of the seals from that sea. This would be simply an assertion of the doctrine of mare clausum in another form. The Undersigned therefore desires to impress upon your Excellency this aspect of the matter, with a view to avoiding, in any close season which might ultimately be agreed upon, a practical or actual surrender of participation in the scaling industry by Her Majesty's subjects ; and establishing the fact that the carefully considered proposal already rejected by the United States contained the full measure of close time ihat your Excellency's advisers are at present prepared to entertain in the interest of Canadian sealers. He therefore recommends that a copy of this Report be transmitted to the Right Honourable the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies, for the information of Her Majesty's Government. Respectfully submitted, (Signed) CHARLES H. TUPPER, Minister of Marine and Fisheries, Department of Fisheries, Canada, Ottawa, July 25, 1891. Inclosure 4 in No. 132. Sir J. Pauncefote to Lord Stanley of Preston. My Lord, Washington, May 22, 1891. IN accordance with instructions which I received last night by telegraph from the Marquis of Salisbury, I have the lionour to transmit herewith to your Excellency an extract from the " Cleveland News and Herald " of the 4th instant, containing Professor Elliot's introduction to his Report on the condition of seal life at the Pribyloff Islands during the summer of 1890. His Report, which I am informed is very voluminou?, was not included among those of the other Government Agents which were laid before Congress in February last. I take this opportunity of transmitting, at tlie same time, copies of the last-mentioned Reports, in case they should not be in the possession of your Government. I have, &:c. ^Slgned) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. i: Ji 1^. I '1\\ \ (■ ^ f- '< i 88 No. 133. , • • I • The Marquis of Salisbury to Behring'a Sea Commissioners. Gentlemen. Forcian Office, September 12, 18!)1. IN reply to jour despatch of the 0th ultimo, I have to state to you that Her Ufajcsty's Government approve your note to the United States' Agent at St. Paul l^lllml ri'spectiiiiT the limitation t)f the ninnhcr of seals to be killed under the agreement t'DMo to by tlio Governments of Great liritain and the United States. Your further proceedings, reported in the aboTC-mentioned despatch, arc also npproved. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBUEY. No. 134. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received September 14.) My Lord, Newport, September i, 1891. I HAVE the honour to inform your Lordship that I addressed a note on the 26th ultimo to the United States' Government in the sense of your Lordship's telegram of the 20th ultimo,* complaining of the violation of the Agreement of the 15th Juhl-. 1891, with regard to the killing of seals by the Unitcl States' Agent in the seal islands. and cxprei^sing the cnnviction of Her Majesty's Government that the I'resident will not countenance any evasion of the true spirit of the Agreement, and will take the necessary measures to insure its strict observance. 1 have now received a note from the Acting Secretary of State, in reply, in which In.' informs me that my statement will receive the immediate attention of his Government. X I1&.V6 &C (Signed) ' JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 133. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Received September 21.) My Lord, Newport, September 10, 1891. WITH reference to my despatch of the 28th ultimo, transmitting copy of the private and unofficial letter which I addressed to the Acting Secretary of State on the subject of the compensation clause of the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement, I have now ihe honour to inclose a copy of the reply which I received from Air. Wharton to that communication, and the substance of which I reported to your Lordship in my telegram of the 8th instant. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosurc in No. 135. Mr. Wharton to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Private and Unofficial.) }ily dear Sir Julian, Department of State, Washington, September 7, 1891. YOUR private and unofficial note of the 26th August was duly received, and I desire now to reply to it in the same private and unofficial manner. The President is unable to see how the damage clause last proposed by him can be held to imply an admission on the part of Great Britain " of a doctrine respecting the liability of Govern- ments for the acts of their nationals or other persons sailing under their ting on the high seas, which is not warranted by international law." The proposition was expressly framed so as to submit to the Arbitrator the question of the liability of Great Britain for the acts of vessels sailing under its flag. It did not assume a liability, but was framed expressly to avoid this objection, which had been urged against the previous proposal. I quote from my note of the 23rd July : — • SeeNo, 12S. ; b ^ iffUh-'/iiB^fi'B^'j^fc^Jfi'i'f y<l i A 89 12, IPOl. ou that Her at St. Paul 10 agreement ,ch, arc also [ilSBXJRT. •14.) ber i, 1891. note on the nip's telegram Ke 15th JuTie, ic seal islands, sident will not the necessary reply, in which is Government. rNCEFOTE. !r 21.) ber 10, 1891. IT copy of the ' of State on . Agreement, I n Mr. Wharton lOrdship in my JNCEFOTE. mber 7, 1891. received, and I 'he President is ■Id to imply an ility of Govern- ting on the higli was expressly Great Britain j,bility, but was ist the previous " The United States might well insist that Her Majesty's Government should admit responsibility for the acts of tlie Canadian sealers which it has so directly encouraged and promoted, precisely as in the proposal the United States admits responsibility for the acts of the revenue-vessels. But, with a view to remove what seems to be the last point of diflcrcncc in a discussion which has been very much protracted, the President iR willing to modify his proposal, and directs me to offer the following " The claim of the United States was stated in my note of the S-'^rd July accom- panying the proposal, and the President does not sec how the claims of the respective Governments could be more fairly or fully .submitted. This Government proposes to submit to the Arbitrators the question whether Great Britain is liable for the injury done to the seal fisheries, the property of the United States, by the Canadian vessels that have, under the stimulation and support of the British Government, been for several years engaged in the Behring's Sea. The proposal of this Government was that the Arbitrators should consider and decide such claims in accordance with justice and equity and the respective rights of the High Contracting Parties. The President is unable to accept the last suggestion which you make in your note, as it seems to him to be entirely ineffectual. The facts connected with the seizure of Canadian sealers by the revenue-vessels of the United States on the one hand, and with the invasion of the sea and the taking of seals by the Canadian scalers on the other, are well known, and doubtless could be agreed upon by the respective Governments without difficulty. It is over the question of liability to respond in damages for these acts that the controversy exists, and the President can sec no other course for this Government than to insist upon the submission of the question of the liability of Great Britain for the acts it complains of to Arbitrators. This Government does not insist that Great Britain shall admit any liability for the acts complained of, but it may well insist, if this arbitration is to result in any effectual settlement of the differences between the two Governments, that the question of Great Britain's liability shall go to the Arbitrators for decision. If you have any suggestions to make in support of the objection that the proposal made by the President assumes a liability on the part of Great Britain, the President will be very glad to receive them and, if necessary, to reconsider the phraseology ; but upon a careful and critical examination of the proposition he is unable to sec that the objection now made has any support in the terms of the ]i''oposal. I have, &c. (Signed) WILLIAM F. WHARTON. No. 186. Sir G. Badeti'Powell to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received October 9.) (Telegraphic.) Victoria, October 8, 1891. COMMISSION to-day returned Esquimalt. Await instructions in Victoria. No. 137. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received October 12.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, October 12, 1891. THE United States' Government urgently press for a reply to their note ot 23rd July. Shall I send official reply in the sense of my private letter of 2Uth August to Mr. Wharton ? The middle course therein proposed, which I presume is acceptable to Canada, might yet be accepted by the President, in order to arrive at a settlement. No. 138. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. i (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, October 15, 1891. IN accordance with the suggestion in your telegram of the 12th instant, you are authorized to repeat officially to the United States' Government the proposal made [OT] N 11 ! j V i i,,;. 90 in your private letter of the 26th August to Mr. Wharton respocting the Behrin^'a Sea arbitration. No. 130. Colonial Office to Foreign Office.^{Received October 17.) Sir, Downing Street, October 16, 1891. WITFI reference to your letter of the Ifith July, respecting the objections of the British Columbia Scalers' Association to the passing of tlie " Seal Fishery (IJchring's Sea) Act, 18!)1," I nm directed by Lord Knutstbrd to transmit to you, for the informa- tion of the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch and its inclosurcs from the Governor-General of Conada on the subject. I nm, &c. (Signed) EDWARD WINGFIELD. IncloBure 1 in No. 130. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutuford. My Lord, Oovernment House, Ottawa, October 1, 1891. WITH reference to your Lordship's despatch of the 16th July last relative to the objections entertained by the British Columbia Scalers' Association to the legislation proposed by Her Majesty's Government with tho object of establishing a close season for seal in Beiiring's Sea, I have the honour to forward to your Lordship herewith copy of an apin-ovcd Minute of the Privy Council, to which is appended copy of a letter addressed to the Scalers' Association by the Minister of Marine and Fisheries in the sense of your Lordship's despatch above referred to. I have, &c. (Sij^ied) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosure 2 in No. 139. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in Council on the '2\st September, 1891. THE Committee of the Privy Council have had before them a despatch dated the ICtli July, 1891, from the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies acknowledging the receipt of a Minute of the Canadian Privy Council inclosing copy of a letter from the British Columbia Healers' Association. The Jlinister of Marine and Fisheries to whom the matter was referred, now states that a rc])ly lias been forwarded by him to the Association in the sense indicated (a copy thereof is appended hereto). The Committee, on the recommendation of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, advise that your Excellency be moved to forward a copy hereof to tho Principal Secre- tary of State for the Colonies for the information of Her Majesty's Government. All of which is respectfully submitted. (Signed) JOHN J. McGBB, Clerk of the Privy Council. Inclosure 3 in No. 139. Mr. Tuppcr to Sealers' Association. Gentlemen, Ottawa, September 10, 1891. REVERTING to my letter to you of the 13th June on the subject of your commu- nication of the 6th of that month, on behalf of the Scalers' Association of Victoria, remonstrating against tho proposed modus vivendi in Behring's Sea, I have now the honour to inform you that Her Majesty's Government is of opinion that the total cessation of sealing in Behring's Sea will greatly enhance the value of the produce of Bbring's Boa • 16, 1891. ctiona of tho ■y (Ikhring's tho informa- rcs from the JGFIBLD. ber 1, 1891. relative to tho :hc legislation a close Reason herewith copy )y of a letter sheries in the PRESTON. I Excelteney the latch dated the the Colonics closing copy of red, now states icatcd (a copy and Fisheries, rincipal Secre- nment. IcGEB, rivy Council, \er 10, 1891. your commu- Ion of Victoria, I have now the JLhat the total khe produce of theeoasi fishery, and does not anticipate tliat. British'] sealers''^ will sniTer^to any great extent by exclusion from Bchring's Hca. Her Majesty's Government, liowcver, will ho prepared to consider any case in wliich it is clearly established that direct loss lins liecn sufTercd by a Britisli subject througli the enforcement of the prohibition against Hculin^ in Hchring h Sea. With reference to the wish of the Assoc-iation that it should bo heard before the Arbitration ConimisHion, tho Secretary of State for tlic Colonics intimates that, as the Joint Commission of Experts has been appointed to examine all (picstions connected with seal life, and tho fur-seal industry, for submission to tlio Arbitrators, ycm should lay any statements you desire to make before the Commission of Experts in the first instance, and that, in the event of its being found necessary to call evidence before the Arbitrators, in addition to that which may be presented to the Commission of Experts, Her Majesty's Government will not fail to boar the wishes of the Association in mind, 1 have, &c. (Signed) CHARLES II. TUPPER. No. 140. The Behring's Sea Commigsioners to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received October 19.) My Lord, " Danube," at Ounalaska, September 17, 1891. FOR the purpose of our inquiry into the conditions oi seal life in Behring's Sea and other parts of the North Pacitic Ocean, we deemed it advisable to visit the Russian seal islands, and we were pleased to receive nt Ounulaska on tlic 21st August a telegram from your Lordship informing us of the receipt of a note from the Russian Governn:ent authorizing us to viait their seal iislicries. and stating that the Governor-Geneial at Amoor had been requested to afl'ord us every facility. 2. We accordingly visited the Commander Islands, arriving off Behring's Island on the Ist September. 3. The Administrator, M. Grcbnitzky, had not heard of us from tho Amoor, but on learning of our mission, showed us every courtesy and hospitality, and from his own ample experience and observations gave us most valuable information ns to the conditions of seal life in Russian waters. On Copper Island, tho Government Superintendent, M. Tillmann, acting on instructions from J\I. Grebnitzky, gave us full information, and accompanied us to the rookeries, extending to us the most friendly courtesy. 4. We then proceeded to Petropaulowski, and there from the Commandant, M. HomyakofT, and Captain Brandt, of the Russian Imperial steam-ship " Aleut," we again received much courtesy and assistance in our inquiries. 6. We venture to hope that the Russian Government will |bc iinformed of the extremely satisfactory character of our visit to the Russian; sealing-grounds, and we would take this occasion of expressing our opinion of the great value to the elucidation of the conditions of seal life, of the information and o;^ .unities for observation which we were afforded by the Russian authorities on the Commander Islands and in Kamschatka. 6. We inclose herewith, for your Lordship's information, ; copies of the letters which we addressed to the Administrator of the Commander Islands and the Com- mandant at Petropaidowski, expressing our sense of the valuable facilities they have afforded us. W Q liave &c. (Signed) ' GKORGE BADEN-POWELL. GEORGE M. DAWSON. Inclosure 1 in No. 140. The Behring's Sea Commissioners to the Administrator of the Commander Inlands. Sir, "Danube," at Behring's Island, September 2, 1891. HAVING been appointed Her Britannic Majesty's Commissioner to hold an inquiry into the conditions of seal life in Behring's Sea and other parts of the North Pacific Ocean, with a view to the arbitration pending on the subject between the Governments of the United States and Great Britain, we considered it to be of much importance to the success of our mission that we should obtain full information concerning the facts of seal life and the methods of killing adopted on the Commander Islands. [5721 N 2 Ul'^ 11 li^i ± m li |:i i 3 '^-■\ i-: 92 We received a confirmatory telapfram from the Secretary of lUato for Foreign Affairs in England, Htating that the Uussian Oovornment had been good enough to authorize us to visit their seal (isheries, and that the Oovornor-Ocneral at the Amoor had been requested to afford us every facility in tlic prosecution of our inquiries. Not having time to communicate witii the Oovornor-Ocneral at the Amoor, we Tenturcd to come to Bchring's Island, and wo have had the good fortune to meet with you, and now would hog to tender this expression of our best thanks for the courtesy with which you have received us and for the valuable and full information which youi long experience and accurate knowledge of all connected with scaling enabled you to afford us. We have, &c. (Signed) GEORGE BADEN-POWELL, GEOllOE M. DAWSON. Inclosure 2 in No. 140. The Behring's Sea Commissionera to Mr Homyakoff. Sir, " Danube" at Petropaulowski, September 9, 1891. WE have the honour, before we leave Petropaulowski, to convey to you our thanlts for the courtesy with which you have received us during our visit to your command, and for the information which yon have so freely placed at our disposal. Having been appointed Her Britanniii Majesty's Commissioners to investigate tlie condition's of seal life in the North Pacitic Ocean, with a view to the preservation of the tur-seal, we deemed it specially advisable to obtain full information concerning the liussinn seal islands. We received a telc;jraphic dospatcli from the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs in England stating that the Russian Government had been good enough to authorize us to visit their seal fisheries, and that the Governor-General at the Amoor had been requested to afford us every facility in the prosecution of our inquiries. As the limited time at our disposal did not admit of our communicating with the Governor-General at the Amoor, we would beg you to be good enough to inform his Excellency of our visit here, and to convey to him our high appreciation of the manner in which you have received us. We have, &c. (Signed) GEORGE BADEN-POWELL. GEORGE M. DAWSON. No. 141. The Behring's Sea Commissioners to the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Received October 19.) My Lord, " Danube," at Ounalaska, September 17, 1891. IN continuation of our despatch of the 6th August last, we have the honour to report that since that date our proceedings have been as follows : — 2. Our first cruize was to the eastward and northward, with a view to observing the facts of seal life in those directions, and acquiring trustworthy information as to the northern limit of the fur-seal. 3. We visited the native and other settlements on Nunivak Island, Cape Vancouver, St. Matthew Island, St. Lawrence Island, and Plover Bay. On our voyage northwards, and on our return journey to the Pribyloff Islands from a north-westerly direction, we carefully recorded all seals seen at sea. On this cruize we received valuable assistance from Lieutenant-Commander Hadley in Her Majesty's ship " Pheasant." 4. On reaching St. Paul Island on the 19th August we .ngain examined some of the rookeries to note the difference in their appearance after a fortnight's interval, and then, proceeding to Plimlink Harbour, Ounalaska, to consult with the commanding officers of the English and United States' war-ships as to future movements, we left that port on the 24th August for the westward, calling at the Islands of Atkaand Attoo, on which are the only remaining native settlements of the western part of the Aleutian chain, 6. Our ultimate object being to visit the Russian seal islands. Her Majesty's ship " Porpoise " was detailed to accompany us, she being on her way back to the China Station. 6, The " Porpoise," under the command of Captain J. Leslie Burr, from whom we 98 for Foreign enough to I Amoor hud Amoor, we meet with the courtesy 1 which youi iblcd you to POWELL SON. received every ARniRtanco and attention, kccpinp a more northerly course to lock for seals and schooncrH, joined us at Attoo on the 2Uth August. 7. We proceeded to the Commander Islands and to Pctropaulowski, and on t'is portion of our cruize wo are addrcsHiii^ a separate despatch to your Lordsliip. 8. Leaving Pctropaulowski on the lOtli Sepf ember, wu shaped our course for the Pribyloff Islands, so as to strike them from a westerly direction, keeping on accurate record of all seals (ibsorved. 1). Paying our final visit to the rookeries on St. Paul Island after a further interval of twenty-six days, we found that Mr. Stanley Brown, having completed his full observa- tions of seal life on behalf of the American Commissiomra, had just left the island. 10. We thus secured the opportunity of making the latest observations of several important points in relation to our inquiry. We now propose to continue our investigations by the collection, on our return journey to Victoria, of evidence from those engaged iu sealing on the coast of British Columbia, We have, &c. (Signed) GEORGE BADEN-POWELL. GEORGE M. DAWSON. hi • ' 'IK i t,er 9, 1891. ou our thanks lommand, and nvcstigate tlie srvation of the ioncerning the foreign Affairs to authorize us xoor had been jating with the 1 to inform his of the manner -POWELL. ^VSON. 1 October 19.) htr 17, 1891. te the honour observing the Ition as to the ipc Vancouver, Ige northwards, direction, we [able assistance -ained some of I's interval, and landing officers , left that port Lttoo, on which Itian chain. 1 Majesty's ship I China Station. [from whom we No. 142. Sir J. Pauncefole to the Marquis of Salisbury,— ^Received October 19.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, October 19, 1891. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of the 15th instant, I addressed a note to the Acting Secretary of State on the 17th instant, in the sense of my private letter to him, and officially repeated the proposal made by your Lordship. I called by request at the State Departme , to-day, and Mr. Wharton asked me informally to submit two alternative clauses to your Lordship. A disclaimer is contained in the first clause of any admission of the liability of Great Britain being implied from the tetms of the President's clause 7. The second is a clause to be substituted for the President's clause, and is in the sense of your Lordship's proposal. The text of the two clauses follows : — [See Inclosure 1 in Sir J. Pauncefote's despatch of October 23, 1891 : Inclosure 1 in No. IGO, infra.] Will your Lordship authorize me to inform the United States' Government that you accept the second clause, in which case thev will at once propose it in answer to my note of the 17th instant? It will be left to further negotiation to settle the choice of Arbitrators and place of sitting. No. 143. Memorandum by Sir G, Baden-Powell on the Limitation of the Number of Fur-seals to be taken on the Pribyloff Islands in 1891. — {Received at the Foreign Office, October 20.) Limitation exceeded. BY Agreement between the United States and Great Britain not more than 7,600 seals were to be taken on the Pribyloff Islands in 1891. 2. On visiting the Piibyloff Islands in July and August 1891, the British Commis- sioners found that since the opening of the season and up to the 4th August about 9,100 seals had been taken, rnd that it was in contemplation to kill about 2,900 more before the close of the season, aking a total for the year of 12,000. 3. The explanation of this excessive killing is to be found in the interpretation placed by the authoriti j in the seal islands on the terms of the modus vivendi of June 1891. 4. The clause (No. 2^ of the modus vivendi runs thus : " The United States' Govern- ment will prohibit Beal-killing for the sar." period " (until May 1892) " in the same part ^1 IP' i ^^r 94 of Behring's Sea, and on the shores and islands thereof the property of the United States (in excess of 7,500 to be taken on the islands for the subsistence and care of the natives). . . ." Intention of United States* Government in imposing Limit. 5. The intention of the President of the United States in insisting upon this proviso as to 7,500 is evident in the various statements officially made on beiialf of the United States. G. On the 25th April, 1891, the President instructed Mr. Blaine, the Secretary of State, to inform Sir Julian Paunceibte : " . , . . Some seals must be killed by the natives for food ; . . . . the lessees are bound under their lease .... to feed and care for the natives, .... and for this service, a very expensive one, .... the lessees should find their comoensation in taking a moderate number of seals." 7. Mr. Blaine, in his letter to Sir Julian Pauncefote of the 4th May, 1891, correctly explains that under their lease the Company is bound to furnish to the natives — (1.) Dried salmon. (2.) Salt and barrels for preserving meat. (3.) 80 tons of coal. (4.) Dwellings in good repair. (5.) Schools and teachers. (6.) Church. (7) Physicians and medical stores. (8.) Necessaries of life for widows and orphans, aged and infirm, who arc unable to provide for themselves. 8. 'Sir. Blaine adds : " The comfort, possibly the safety, of all these human beings is dependent on the Company. ... If the Company shall .... be deprived of all privilege of taking seals, they certainly could not be compelled to minister to the wants of these 300 inhabitants for an entire year. If these islands are to be left to charity, the iNorth American Company is under no greater obligation to extend it to them than any other citizens of the United States. It evidently requires a considerable sum of money to furnish the supplies named in the lease. ... if the lessees are not to be allowed payment in any form for tlie amount necessary to support these 300 people on the islands, they will naturally decline to expend it. . . . No appropriation of money has been made by Congress for the purpose." 9. Mr. Blaine continues, in conclusion : " In this exigency the President (proposes to) concede to the North American Company the right to take a sufficient number of seals, and no more than sutHcient to reconi))ense them for their outlay in taking care of the natives, and that .... all commercial killing of seals be prohibited pending the result of arbitration. . . . The Secretary of the Treasury .... after full consideration has limiteil the number to 7,500 to be killed by the Company to repay them for the outlay demanded for the support of the 3U0 people on the Pribyloff Islands. 10. On the 0th June, 1891, Mr. AV barton, the Acting Secretary of State, writes to Sir Julian Pauncefote : " I am directed by the President .... to inform Lord Salisbury that .... in order to insure such control pending these negotiations, the Agents of the Treasury Department who have been dispatched to the seal islands have been instructed to stop the killing when 7,500 have been taken, and to await the arrival of further orders ; though ordinarily the taking of seals on tlie islands does not begin until about the 1st July The President is sure that Lord Salisbury will not question the absolute good faith of this Government in observing its stipulation to limit the catch to 7,600." 11. It is quite evident, therefore, that the total of 7,600 was to include all seals killed for natives' food or for the purposes of the Company, as the skins in both cases would become the property of the Company, and by their sale the Company would recoup itself for the expenditure it was under obligation t. > make on behalf of the natives, and also for any additional expenditure which it might incur in providing food for tlie natives during the rest of the autumn and winter. But ail commercial killing of seals was to be prohibited. In brief, the limit of 7,600 was to include all seals killed on the islands within the year, the skins thus obtained being considered of sufficient value to provide for all expenses incurred for the subsistence and care of the natives over a period during which the prohibition of the usual killing would deprive the natives of their means of earning a livelihood. 12. It is to be noted that the President and Mr. Blaine had been misinformed as to the actual obligations of the Company under their lease. The Company is not bound 95 the United care of the I this proviso if the United ! Secretary of killed by the to feed and . the lessees 891, correctly ives — I arc unable to human beings deprived of all er to the wants left to charity, it to them than ierablo sum of ;s are not to be 300 people on ition of money idcnt (proposes lent number of taking care of •d pending the consideration them for the is. State, writes inform Lord cgotiations, the ;al islands have vait the arrival does not begin isbury will not ndation to limit IS iclude all seals ._ in both cases Company would f oi the natives, ng food for the killing of seals lis killed on the (ficient value to ■es over a period natives of their isinformed as to ay is not bound ** to feed the natives," nor is the " safety of the natives dependent on the Company." In reality the State alone is responsible if by an act of State the natives are deprived of their means of Uvelihood and threatened with starvation. Oovernment Action on Islands. 13. It is also to be noted that Colonel Murray, the Sub-Agent of the Treasury i\ charge of the islands, informed the British Commissioners on the 19th August, 1891, at St. Paul Island, that the Company had already made a charitable advance of 2,700 dollars to the natives towards their winter's support, but that he had informed the Company that ho was authorized to provide the natives during the rest of the year with everything that they really required, at the GovCxi;;.:?nt expense, and that therefore the natives might spend the Company's advance on whatever they pleased. He also explained to the Commissioners that the Treasury was formally committed to such expenditure, and that the money would be provided out of the general vote, which would be passed in the usual course by Congress in the Appropriation Act. 14. Colonel Murray also stated that absolute orders had been made to stop this year all killing of seal pups, which in previous years had provided the natives with 4,000 or 6,000 carcasses for food, and also to stop all killing of " blue " foxes, which had hitherto afforded wages to the natives during the winter. It), This year there will necessarily be a shorter supply of seal meat, as comparatively few seals have been killed ; but there are still many to be killed for winter storage, and there will be no check on the other ordinary local food supplies, viz,, sea lion, fish, and birds. Action of Company on Islands, 16. Both at St. Paul and St. George I examined the stores, and found that the Company, in anticipation of the winter's needs, had ample stocks of provisions, special in some cases, including salt salmon, beef and pork, flour, biscuits, sugar, and tea. 17. In regard to the cost of providing for the natives, Mr. Tingle, the Company's energetic Superintendent, informed me that he was authorized to expend up to 26,000 dollars (6,000/.), but that he did not anticipate a much greater expenditure than 16,000 dollars (3,200/.) to 18,000 dollars (3,600/.) to completely provide for the natives during the coming winter. This estimate gives about l.s. per day per man, woman, and child for food and necessaries, and is exclusive of housing and fuel, nor does it include such wages as may have been earned already or may yet be earned in seal- killing, house - painting, and other work on which it is contemplated to employ the natives. Mr. Tingle added that if the Company chose to refuse supplies the Govern- ment vap bound to supply them, but that he had special instructions, if necessary, to provide for all the needs of the natives, and that he was prepared so to do. Financial Results, 18. In regard to the actual number of seal-skins available to meet this expendi- ture, I found, after careful examination of the books of the Company and Government, and inquiry of the oflScials, that the approximate numbers were as follows : — On stock from lost yenr (1890) Killed before IStli Juno, 1891 Killed between 15th .ind 20th June KilUd between 20th June and 4th August To be killed in autumn . . Total skiDB available (1891) .. 3,J00 4,500 3,000 1,600 2,900 15,500 The stock brought over from the previous year comprises the skins taken in excess of that year's permitted quota, and is customarily carried to the account of the next year's quota. The estimated number of 4,500 killed before the 16th June, 1891, was made by the Treasury Agent, and would leave 3,000 killed before tiie 20th June, on which day there is 'entered in the official Government log the note, "This killing filled the quota of 7,500." The Treasury Agent informed mo that he was permitting a total of 7,600 to be killed after the Ifith June, so that there remained 2,900 to be killed in the autumr; j seeing that 4,600 had been killed between the 16th Juue and the commencement of the " atagey " sooaon early in August. '.',: I ^ -f : ' i ■ 'J- i f ■PBPi^iP 19. The Company will thus have for sale this year not less thau 15,000 skins, of a probable value, at 20 dollars the skin, of 300,000 dollars (60,000/.), about one-half of which would accrue to the Government for taxes. The expenses on the islands, on behalf of the natives, would not exceed 5,000 dollars (1,000/.). The additional expenses of providing food for the nai'wes, which the Government of the United States have undertaken, are estimated not to exceed a total of 20,000 dollars (4,000/.). 20. The Government of the United States are presumably entitled to insist that the quota for this year had been fixed at 7,600, with the special objects of defrayinnj certain expenses, and of preventing any killing for purely commercial purposes, and that therefore any skins accruing to the Company in excess of this 7,500 must be stored to the account of next year's quota. Even if this rigid view were taken, the Company would secure a trade revenue of 15,000/. to cover an expenditure of 1,000/., while the Government would receive a tax revenue of 15,000/. to cover an expenditure of 4,000/. But if this reservation be not insisted on, the respective revenues would yield net profits to the Company of 29,000/., and to the Government of 26,000/., a result ccrtaiuly not contemplated by the President. Action of Treasury Agent on Islands. 21. In regard to the action of the local United States' authorities, I found that Major "Williams, the Treasury Agent for the PribylofF Islands, before leaving San Francisco for the islands, that is before the 27th May, 1891, had been instructed to keep the Company's quota of skins under 7,500 until further orders. Subsequently he was instructed, by telegraph, to "modify his instructions in accordance with the Proclamation." On the 20th June he recorded in tiie official log that the Company's quota of 7,500 had been reached. He permitted, however, two killings to take place for " food skins " on the 25th and the 29th June, yielding 609 skins, before he received the Proclamation on the 2nd July. The Treasury Agent did not seem to be aware that all accepted food skins are placed to the account of the Company's quota. On receipt of the Proclamation, Major Williams, having no other instructions, stopped all killing, and, as he told us, thought the matter over for three days, consulting with Captain Cotton, the United States' Senior Naval Officer in Behring's Sea, and others. He came to the conclusion that the limit of catch was to be within the period between the signing of the modus vivendi and May 1892. Between the 15th June and the 6th July about 3,600 skins had been token, and Major Williams decided that 3,900 more Si.ins were to be taken before ne May. Up to the beginning of August, when the skins became "stagey " and unmarketable, about 1,000 more skins had been taken, leaving a total of 2,900 skins to be taken in the autumn, after the "stagey" season ends in November. 22. On discussing the matter with Professor Mendenhall and Dr. Merriam, the Behring's Sea Commissioners (designate) of the United States, we found they had talked over matters with the local officials, but had no previous knowledge of the subject or of the correspondence in which the President's intention was expressed. On the 6th August, 1891, Dr. Merriam again opened the subject to me, saying tliat Colonel Murray had explained that only 6,000 had as yet been killed, adding, " Of course it only means alter the date of signing the modus vivendi" Professor Mendenhall, chancing to come up at the same time, concurred in Dr. Merriam's view. In reply to my inquiry they did not know that Major Williams had been instructed on the 27th May, on his way to the islands, to stop killing at 7,500 ; nor that in the official log was the entry on the 20th June, " This filled the quota of 7,500." 23. It would therefore appear that the United States' authorities on the islands had not been in any way specially instrricted beyond the clear order given on the 27th May, 1891, long antecedent to the loth J^une, to stop killing when 7,500 had been taken — an order obviously in keeping with the agreement come to preliminary to the signing of tiie modus vivendi, that on the President's suggestion the Company should be permitted this year to take 7,600 skins and no more, and these only for a specific purpose. Summary, 24. Mr. Blaine wrote on the 4th Ma/, 1891 : " The President cannot leave these I worthy and innocent people to the hazard of starvation, even to secure any form of agreement with Lord Salisbury touching seal life." The President therefore suggeslas and Lord Salisbury accepts, the proviso that the Company should bo allowed, in the word, of the President; " to take a sufficient rumber of seals, and no more than sufficient, to 30 BkinB, of a t one-half of le islands, on lie additional Jnited States )0l.). to insist that } of defrayinn; purposes, and ,500 must be ere taken, the ire of 1,000/., in expenditure evenues would of 26,000i., a 8, 1 found that re leaving San 1 instructed to Subsequently he lance with the , the Company s ;o take place for ore he received m to he aware quota. ructions, stopped consulting with Sea, and others. period between h June and the lided that 3,900 of August, when had been taken, 'stagey" season )r. Merriam, the found they had ge of the subject )ressed. On the ing that Colonel Of course it only ihall, chancing to y to my inquiry 27th May, on his was the entry on )n the islands had on the 27th May, been taken — an the signing of the be permitted this pose. annot leave these icure any form of lerefore suggestss owed, in the word, than sufficient, to m recompense the Company for their outlay in taking care of the natives." Major Wjlliams, the particularly able Treasury Agent on the islands, was placed in a position of much comple.xity and difficulty, and decided to the best of his judgment. Indeed, faith, it was entirely due to the that the remarkable results above market value of 30,000/. to defray secures a tax revenue o.' 30,000/. to every one concerned has acted in perfectly good meagreness nnd misunderstanding of instructions detailed have been brought about. In a word, the Company receives skins of a expenses not exceeding 1,000/. The Government meet expenses not exceeding 4,000/. • 25. It is a matter for much satisfaction that there are thus secured funds njore than ample to provide for •' the subsistence and care of the natives." It is a matter for regret that when, with a view to the preservation of seal life, an agreement had been come to to prohibit for this year, so far as possible, the killing of fur-seals, there should have been sanctioned on the Pribyloff Islands the killing of 4,500 seals in excess of the very liberal limit pernitted under the Agreement. The disposal of the excess of skins thus obtained is a matter for the immediate consideration of the Governments concerned. iSistned) GEORGE BADEX-POWELL. August 10, 1891. ^' 0.144. . The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncejoit. (I'elegraphic.) Foreign Office, October 20, 1891. I HAVE received your telegram of the 19th instant, containing the text of two alternative clauses suggested by the United States' Government with regard to the submissiori to arbitration of claims for compensation arising out of the killing of seals in Behring's Sea. You are authorized to accept the second of the two clauses proposed. No. 145. Sir J. Pnuncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received October 20.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, October 20, 1891. ilEFERRlNG to your Lordship's telegram of to-day, I presume that there ia no objection to the Joint Commission Article being also signed by me. No. 146. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, October 21, 1891. I'OU are authorized to .sign the Article providing for a Joint Commission to investigate the facts relating to seal life in Behring's Sea, as suggested in your telegram of the 20th instant. • , No. 147. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Received October 22.) My Lord, Washington, October 12, 1891. IN my despatch of the 4th September last I had the honour to report that, in accordance with your liordship's instructions, I addressed a note to the United States' Government calling their attention to the violation of Article 2 of the Behring's Sea Agreement for a modus vivendi, signed on the 15th Juno last (which limited the killing of seals on the islands until May 1892 to 7,500), and expressing the conviction of Her Majesty's Government that the President would not countenance any evasion of the true spirit of the Agreement, and would take the necessary measures to insure its strict obserrance. [572] (8 Ml ^I^H^ Mm MMPIIi P I have now the honour to inclose copies of that note, uxi of the r6ply Of the United States' OuTemment, which I received on the 10th instant. In transmitting these documents I venture to submit to your Lovdship the following observations. ' No question can reasonably arise as to the meaning of the Agreement as understood by the two Governments. Your Lordship will remember that when Mr. Blaine first proposed a reservation of 'he right to kill a limited number of seals on the islands for the care and subsistence of the natives, I objected to the suggestion as detracting from the principle of equality which was a feature of the original proposal. Mr. Blaine, in his note to me of the 4th May, 1891 (of which a copy was inclosed in my despatch of the 5th of that month),* dwelt at great length on the various grounds, princi- pally humanitarian, upon which the proposal was bdsed, and concluded as follows : — " In this exigency the President instructs me to propose to Lord Salisbury that lie concede to the North American Company the right to take a sufficient number of eeals, and no more than sufficient, to recompense them for their outlay in taking care of the natives, and that, in the phrase of the President, all ' commercial killing of seals be prohibited pending the result of arbitration.' " The Secretary of the Treasury has a right to fix the number necessary to the end desired. After full consideration, he has limited the number to 7,500 to be killed by the Company to repay them for the outlay demanded for the support of the 300 people on the Piibyloff Islands." Her Majesty's Government consented to the reservation, on the terms and for the purposes above mentioned, and, in the course of the further negotiations, they pointed out that " it was on the fidelity with which the condition of not killing more than 7,500 seals was observed that the equality of the proposed Agreement- depended," They therefore asked for facilities for the supervision by British agents of the proceedings of the Company on the seal islands. To this the Acting Secretary of State, in his note to me of the 6th June, 1891 (of which a copy was inclosed in my despatch of the 9th June), replied as follows : — " He " (the President) " directs me to ask you to remind Lord Salisbury that the limitation of the killing of seals upon the islands is absolutely within the control of the United States, as a daily count is made by sworn officers, and to inform him that already, in order to insure such control pending these negotiations, the agents of the Treasury Department who have been dispatched to the seal islands have been instructed to stop the killing when 7,500 have been taken, and to await the arrival of further orders ; though, ordinarily, the taking of seals on the islands does not begin until about the 1 st July. The enforcement of an agreed limitation being so fully in the control of the United States, the President is sure that Lord Salisbury will not question the absolute good faith of this Government in observing its stipulation to limit the catch to 7,300." The two Governments therefore agreed that, up to May 1892, only 7,500 seals should be killed for the support of the 300 people on the PribylofF Islands, and that all " commercial killing " (to use the language of Mr. Blaine) should be stopped. It is important to note that the agents of the United States' Treasury Department, who had been dispatched to the seal islands long before the signature of the Agreement, had been instructed as far back as the 27th May " to stop the killing when 7,500 had been taken." The following arc the Articles of the Agreement relating to the restriction on tho killing of seals : — " 1. Her Majesty's Government will prohibit, until May next, seal-killing in tliat part of Behring's Sea lying eastward of the line of demarcation described in Article I of the Treaty of 1867 between the United States and Russia, and will promptly use its best efforts to insure the observance of this prohibition by British subjects and vessels. " 2. The United States' Government will prohibit seal-killing for the same period in the same part of Behring's Sea, and on the shores and islands thereof the property of the United States (in excess of 7,500 to be taken on the islands for the subsistence and care of the natives), and will promptly use its best efforts to insure the observance of this nrohibition by United States' citizens and vessels." It is difficult to understand by what process of reasoning the United States' Treasury Agent at the seal islands can have come to the conclusion that he was authorized under the above Agreement to permit the killing of 12,071 seals. Sir George Baden-Powell and Dr. Dawson, the British Commissioners sent to Behring's Sea, in a telegram from the Frihylofi Islands dated the 5th August, reported • See " UaiUd Statei No. 3 (1891)," p. S. J * reply otthe nitting these t9 understood . Blaine first le islands for racting from (ir. Blaine, in my despatch mnds, princi- Uows : — sbury that he iber of eeals, g care of the g of seals be iry to the end » be killed by he 300 people ms and for the i, they pointed ore than 7,500 3nded," They proceedings of , in his note to the 9th June), [isbury that the ! control of the form him that ; agents of the seen instructed •ival of further ;gin until about 1 the control of t question the nit the catch to nly T.rjOO seals ids, and that all stopped. It Ik tment, who liad \greement, had 7,500 had been istriction on the ■killing in that ^ in Article I of ptly use its best vessels. same period in 5 property of thi- istence and care servance of this United States' on that he was als. jsioners sent to A.ugu8t, reported 99 to your Lordship that this year's catch of seals bad already considerably exceeded the number of 7,600, the limit fixed in the Agreement ; and, in a despatch of the same date, they stated that at St. Paul they had been informed that the Treasury Agent had been instructed, as far back as the 27th May, to keep the quota of seals taken by the Company under 7,600, and that en route to the islands he was advised by telegram to interpret his instructions in accordance with the United States' Proclamation, which embodied the Agreement of the 15th June verbatim. This accords entirely with what is stated in the Acting Secretary of State's note to me of the 6th .June, which I have (|uoted above. The British Bohring's Sea Commissioners, in their despatch above referred to, state that the Treasury Agent, Major Williams, arrived at the Pribyloff Islands on the 10th June, and that, on the 20th June, the quota of 7,500 seals having been killed, he stopped all further killing for the Company. Up to the 20th June, therefore, the Treasury Agent entertained no doubt as to the limit of seals to be killed, and as to his instructions and his duties under the Agreement. It was only when a copy of the President's Proclamation arrived at the islands on the 2nd July that he entertained doubts as to whether he ought not to allow 7,600 seals to be killed from and after the 15th June, the date of the signature of the Agreement, ignoring all the killing of seals whi(;h had taken place prior and up to that date. On the 28th July he imparted his doubts to the British Commissioners, who replied, on the aOth, in writing, that, in their opinion, the intention of the two Governments, as conveyed by Article 2 of the modus vivendi, was that, on the part of the United States' Government, the stipulation would be strictly observed to limit the catch this season to 7,500 seals, and to stop the killing when that number had been taken. A copy of that lett^ is inclosed in the despatch of the British Commissioners. Nevertheless, Ma,jor Williams read the Agreement othenvise, although it in no wa^' conflicted with his previous instructions, but, on the contrary, entirely confirmed them. The consequence of this proceeding on his part is given in detail in the reply of the United States' Government to the complaint of Her Majesty's Government. ;•.••,■: The numbers of seals killed are as follows : — ; ', .. From 1st May to 10th June . . From 1 1th to 15th June .. From ISth June to 2nd July . . From 2nd July to 10th August Permission given to kill in addition Total 1,651 2,920 4,471 1,796 1,233 12,071 The United States' Government do not in terms deny that there has been a violation of the Agreement. They content themselves with transmitting the explanations of the Treasury Agent, and expressing the hope that they will convince Her Majesty's Govern- ment that there has been no disposition on his pai . to violate the stipulations of the Agreement. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure 1 in No. 147. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Blaine. Sir, Newport, R.I., August 26, 1891. IN accordance with instructions which I have received from the Marquis of Salisbury, I have the honour to inform you that the British Behring's Sea Commis- sioners have reported; in a communication dated from the seal islands on the 5th August, that they find that this year's catch of seals already materially exceeds 7,500, and that the United States' Agent permits the killing of seals to continue, assuming that the limitation agreed upon commences from the date of the signature of the modus vivendi. In bringing this information to your notice, I am at the same time instructed to express the conviction of Her Majesty's Government that the President will not countenance any evasion of the true spirit of the Agreement, and that he will take whatever measures appear to him to be necessary to insure its strict observance. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. [672] O 2 Ih. I I >^' ]r. i' i '■ i ;'■ ( J ; 'I 1 ' ,■ i I i i • '! "Mi I ^! Ii' ' . : ;■ . . ; ' \ ;■ 1 1 '■ 1 '' i ■ % %": \ • :s< i : ''' . ' i ;^: I. 'mm^ 100 Inclosurc 2 in No. 147. ' '* Mr. Wharton to Sir J. Pauncefote. 'i '>' '> •;'■. Sir, Department of Stale, Washington, October 10, 1891. IT is a source of regret that an answer has heen so long delayed to your note of the 26th August last, relating to the communication of the British Bchring's Sea Commissiuncrs as to the alleged killing of seals on the seal islands in excess of the number fixed by the Agreement of the 16th Juno last. This delay has been occasioned by the necessary of receiving from the United States' Agent in charge of the islands a full Beport on the subject. The Agent reports that he reached the islands on the 10th day of June last; that from the 1st January to the 1st May, 1891, nc seals were killed on the islands; and that from the IstMay to the 10th June, the date of the Agent's arrival, there were killed by the natives for food 1,661 seals. On the morning of the 1 1th June the Agent gave permission to the lessees to commence killing under the Contract with the Govern- ment of ths United States, and he states that, from the 1 1 th to the 1 5th June, 2,920 seals were killed ; and that, from the 15th June to the 2nd July, the date of the arrival of the steamer " Corwin," bringing the Proclamation of the President of the United States, containing the notice and text of the modus vivendi, there were killed 4,471 seals. From the 2nd July to the 10th August there were killed, for the use of the natives an food, 1,796 seals ; and, on leaving the islands, the Agent gave instructions to limit the number to be killed by the natives for food up to the 1st May, 1892, to 1,233. The instructiops of the Secretary of the Treasury to the Agent, received by the steamer " Corwin," were that, if in any way his previous instructions were inconsistent with the President's Proclamation and the Agreement embraced in it, he should be governed by the latter. The Agent reports that, after careful consideration of the text of the Agreement, he decided that the seals killed since the 15th June, the date when that instrument was signed, should be deducted from the 7,500 named in Article 2, thus leaving 3,029 seals to be taken " for the subsistence and care of the natives " from the 2nd July, 1891, to the 1st May, 1892. He says that, in his desire to carry out witlj absolute correctness the modus vivendi, he consulted the two United States' Commissioners, Messrs. Mendenhall and Merriam, the Commanders of the United States' vessels " Mohican," " Thetis," and " Corwin," the United States' Special Agent, and the Special Inspector, and that they all concurred in bis interpretation of paragraph 2 ot the Agreement : that seals killed prior to the 15th June did not form part of the 7,600 named in the modus vivendi. He further says that, in his first meeting with the British Commissioners, Sir George Baden-Powell and Dr. G. M. Dawson, on the 28th July, he submitted the same question to them. Their reply was tbit it was the understanding of the British Government that only 7,500 seals should be taken during the season, but on examining the text of the Agreement, they admitted that the Agent's interpretation of it was cor.'*ect. This statement as to the views of the British Commissioners is confirmed by the Report of Professor Mendenhall. The Agent claims that his action is not only strictly in accord with the language of the Agreement, but with the true intent and spirit of the same, as he understood that intent and spirit in the light of all the facts in hi.s po3session. He understood that the object of the Agreement in allowing 7,600 seals to be killed was for the subsistence and care of the natives." The 1,061 seals killed by the natives for food from the 1st May to the 10th June were almost immediately eaten by them, as is their custom after the scanty supply of meat during the winter and spring months, and no part of these seals was salted or preserved for future use. During the killing season by the lessees, under their quota for commercial purposes, the natives are kept very busy, and have no time to prepare meat for future use, and only so much is used for food as is cut jfF for present use ; so that the seals killed between the 10th June, when the season commenced, and the 2nd July, when the notice of the modus vivendi was received, were not available for the future subsistence of the natives. As stated, there only remained 3,029 seals to • i taken for their subsistence from the 2nd July, 1891, to the 1st May, 1892. The Agent cites the fact that, from the close of the commercial killing season of 1890 on the 20th July, there were killed by the natives for food up to the 31st December, 1890, 6,218 seals, including .1,4(58 pup seals, the further killing of the latter being now prohibited. It was plain to the Agent that, under the construction which he had placed upon the modus vivendi, the supply of meat for the natives during the coming winter would be entirely inadequate, and before his departure from the islands he called upon — iin», m ober 10, 1891. [ to your note of I Behring'a Sea in excess of the been occasioned of the islands a June last ; that ;he islands; and •ival, there were I June the Agent with the Govem- I5th June, 2,920 ite of the arrival nt of the United rere killed 4,471 • the use of the gave instructions . 1st May, 1892, , received by the were inconsistent it, he should be sideration of the h June, the date 7,500 named in I and care of the it, in his desire to . the two United Timanders of the ed States' Special interpretation of June did not form that, in his first and Dr. G. M. Their reply was 7,600 seals should jnt, they admitted the views of the nhall. th the language of e understood that nderstood that the !ic subsistence and from the Ist May custom after the mrt of these seals the lessees, under id have no time to ut jff for present n commenced, and not available for d 3,029 seals to ' i 1892. The Agent of 1890 on the December, 1890, latter being now hich he had placed the coming winter ds he called upon n •101 the lessees to bring in a sufficient supply of salt beef to carry the natives through the winter and up to the Isl Mav lGi)2. The Agent had no means of determining tlie scope and meaning of the phrase of the Hritish Commissioners as used in your note, " this year's catch," or " the catch of this season," as used in their communication to liim dated t!in 30th July, except by the interprclntion to be given to tlie text of the modits vivencU, as contained in paragraphs 1 and '2. The " same period," found in paragraph 2, he understood to refer to the period within which the British Government undertook to proiiibit seal-killing in Behring's Sea. The British Commissioners informed the Agent that, as to the British Government, this period did not begin until a reasonable time after the lotii June (the date of ^igning), sufficient for the naval vessels to roach the sea. The Agent interpreted the paragraphs cited as mutually binding, and ho could not assume that it would be claimed tliat their provisions were to take effect on one date in the intercKt of the British sealers, and on another in the interest of tiic United States. 1 have thus taken pains to communicate to you in some detail the action of the Agent of tlie United States on the subject complained of by tlic Britisli Commissioners, and I hope what has been set fortii will convince your Government that there has been no disposition on the part of the Ajjent to evade or violate the stipulations of the Agreement of the loth June last. I have, &c. (Signed) WILLIAM F. WHARTON, Aclimj Secretary. No. 148. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Received October 22.) My Lord, Washington, October 13, 1891. WITH reference to my telegram of yesterday, I have the honour to inclose copy of a semi-official note which I have received from the Acting Secretary of State pressing for a reply to his note of the 23rd July last, which contained the form of clause proposed by the United States' Government for the settlement of claims for damages to be inserted in the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement, together with a copy of the semi-official note which I have sent him in reply. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure 1 in No. 148. Mr. Wharton to Sir J. Pauncefote. .My dear Sir Julian, Department of ^tate, Washington, October 12, 1891. ON the 23rd July last I wrote you a note presenting a proposal for the settlement of claims for damages, which was to form part of theproposed Agreement of Arbitration of certain matters affecting the seal fisheries in Behring's Sea. On the 22nd August I wrote requesting you to be kind enough to inform me when an answer to my note migiit be expected. On the 21tli August you wrote mo acknow- ledging the receipt of mine of tlie 22nd August, and expressing the hope that you would be in a position to reply to my note of the 23rd July in the course of the next tow days. More than ten weeks have elapsed since sending you my note of the 23rd July, and no answer to it has yet been received. The President is very desirous to have a conclusion reached in the negotiations concerning the Behring's Sea matters, and has requested me to draw your attention !ii>ain to the importance of an early reply to his latest proposal. The period fixed by the Agreement for a modus vivendi expires on the 2nd May next. The time within which it is hoped to obtain a final settlement of the questions in dispute between the two Governments is fast going by, and the President feels that if any effective action is to be had in the matter before the next fishing season opens, all the terms of the Agreement of Arbitration should be disposed of immediately. Very truly yours, (Signed) WILLIAM F. WHARTON. I 'I' I i|!' Inclosure 2 in No. 148. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Wharton. My dear Mr. Wharton, Washington, October 13, 1891. ON receipt of your letter of yesterday asking for a reply to your note of tlio 23rd July last, containing a form of clause proposed by your Government; to be inserted in the Ikhring's Sea Arbitration Agreement, to settle tlie long-debated question of damages, I telegraphed to Lord Salisbury for further instructions, informing him of tlie substance of your communication. 1 understand tluit his Tjordship is expected in London this week from the south of Europe, and 1 shall probably, therefore, receive an answer to my telegram before many days. Although, as you observe, more than ten weeks have elapsed since the date of your ofUcial note above referred to, I need hardly remind you that the intervening time has been taken up with informal discussions between us with a view to finding a solution oF tlie difficulty without unduly lengthening the official correspondence. This informal interchange of views, which, no doubt, had the approval of the President, has not been without advantage in throwing light on the troublesome question which still impedes the conclusion of the Agreement, and I now hope I may soon be in a position to resume tlic official correspondence. I am, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 149. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received October 23.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, October 23, 1891. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of the 20th instant, formal notes have been exchanged between Mr. Wharton and myself recording the adoption of the seven Articles of the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement as formally settled by both Governments. Copies are sent by post. No. 1/50. The Marquis of Salisbury to Mr. Howard. Sir, Foreign Office, October 23, 1891. WITH reference to your despatch of the 29th July last, I transmit herewith a copy of a despatch from the Behring's Sea Commissioners recording their high appreciation of the manner in which they were received by the Kussian authorities at the Commander Islands and Petropaulowski.* I have to request you to convey to the Russian Government the thanks of Her Majesty's Government for the courteous reception accorded to the British Commissioners by the Eussian officials. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 151. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received October 27.) Sir, Downing Street, October 26, 1891. WITH reference to previous correspondence, I am directed by the Secretary of State for the Colonies to transmit to you, to be laid before the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Governor-General of Canada, inclosing a Memorial to Lord Salisbury from the British Columbian Sealers' Association. I am, &c. (Signed) ROBERT G. W. HERBERT. No. 140. SALISBURY. J. HERBERT. 108 Inolosure I in No. ISl. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutaford. My Lord, Government House, Ottawa, October 3, 1891. I HAVE the honour to transmit to your Lordship herewith a copy of an approved Minute of the Privy Council of Canada, submitting a Memorial addressed to Her Nfajesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs by the Sealers' Association of Victoria with reference to the loss occasi(> icd to Canadian vessels by reason of the enforcement of the modus vivendl, together with copy of the reply of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries to the representations of the Association. I have, &c. • (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosure 2 in No. 151. Report of a Committee of the Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Oovernor-General in Council on the 29th September, 1891. ON a Report, dated the 19tli September, 1891, from the Minister of Marino and Fisheries, stating that he has received the appended letter from Mr. Richard Hall, Secretary of Victoria Sealers' Association, covering a Memorial signed by the owners, managing owners, and agents of the Canadian scaling fleet, addressed to the Right Honourable Her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. This Memorial represents the position of the Canadian sealing fleet as affected by the modus vivendi in Behring's Sea during the present season. The Minister also submits a copy of his answer to the Secretary of the Association thereto. The Committee, on the recommendation of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, advise that your Excellency be moved to forward copies hereof, together with the Memorial in question, to the Right Honourable the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies, for the information of Her Majesty's Government. All which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk of the Privy Council. Appendix (A). Office of the Victorin f^ealera' Association, Victoriii, B.C., Sir, September 1, 181)1. On behalf of the Sealers' Association of Victoria I do myself the honour to transmit lierewith a Memorial addressed by them to tlie Imperial Oovernnient, and most respectfully to rc([uest that you will be pleased to forward it in the pro])er conrso, accompanied by such representations on the part of the Dominion Government as you may deem proper. 2. Altliough it may ap])ear at first aij,'ht that a larj»e sum would be involved in grantini:; our prayer — some of the vessels liaving been ordered home before they entered Behring's Sea, and eotise- ipiently witliout any eatcU at all, and others very shortly after entering, when their catch was small — some are now returning with full average catches, whose claim will consequently be nil, and it is to b<) presumed that many others may follow, equally fortunate, so that in all probability the amount re(piired to meet our claims, altbougli to us of very material importance, will to the British Govern- ment be comparatively insignificant. 3. We cannot, of course, give a complete list of our exact claims until all our vessels have returned, but will then forward them promptly. 4. Permit me to remind you. that in 1 885, when the Canadian Government excluded tlio United States' fishermen from participation in Canada fisheries, si.v months' notice was given, whereas no such I'ourtesy was extended to us. 5. I am further directeil to convey to you tlie expression of our grateful appreciation of the full and energetic manner in which you have hitherto supported our interests, and of our hope that you will feel justified in fully indorsing and urging the prayer of our present Memorial. 6. If you will be so goo<l as to afford us any advice or suggestions wliich may occur to you as to any further steps which we can take in this matter, we will feel duly grateful. , . ■ . I have, &c. (Signed) EICHARD HALL, Secretary to the Victoria Sealers' Association, The Hon. the Minister of Marine and Fisheries. m t •( I !•■ 104 Appendix (U). Mtmorial. To till) ^ToRt Notila tlio MiiniuiH of SaliNbury, K.O., llor Miijuaty'a Priiicipal Sucrotary of Stato fur Korui);n AfFiurfl, I'roinicr. Tho liumlilu Mumoriul of tlio iimluroij^mMl ItriliHli Coliiiiibia Ship-ownurs inturcstud in Fur-seal liiintiii^', Most rt'spcrt fully Rhowctli : TImt. your iiiiMiioriuliHU di'siro to iipproncli your {.ordsliip with aHHiiriiiivofl of tlu'ir loyalty to tlir BritiHJi ('rowii, tliuir att4kuhuiunt to tliu institutiouH uf tliuir country, u!i(l tliuir personal rvHpoot for yuur Lonlnliip. Tliiit, (■liorisliiii;; niicIi HoiiliiiKiMt.H, your niiMnoriidlHtn Imvoviowod with surpriHO nnd pain tho roconl artion III' till' liiiprriiil (iovimiiiuciiI in iloulin^' with thoir intcrcstH. 'I'liiit nil Art prohiliitinv; C'lr-Hriil huntin)^' in lloliriiiK'n Son Imn honn pnHHOil through Parliament, and hiH ri'i'i'ivi>il tin* h'nyiil AHMoiit with unuNual hiiHlc, wIiiimi' cUVrt Iiuh Iiimmi to ])rolnrt a larKo ]iolitico- coniiiiiMvial nunuipoly, Itolonging to a foruit^n Statt^ at tho ox|Mtn8o and to tho HuriouM dotriinunt of Uritisli iuti'vi'siM. That your nicniorialiHlM ro^rot that you can havo no ('onlidonro in tho sini-crity of tho irnitcil Stttto.s' (liivornniunt in ilosirin^' tho iirotcution «f fur-Ni>al.s inaHnnivh an they havo novor niado any oflbrt to pri'MiM'vo aninud lif« from tho lioiMii'o of thuirown ci..izonR. Thiit lit llio ]ir('Mt'iit timo tlioy iiro conniving; at tho rxtorminntiim of tho whidu and thn wm-ottor, Canadian li.slu'rmcn having' no )mrt or hIiiiio in thimo iiiduNtrii'H, and that your niiMiiorialistN confldontly buliovo that, had not (!aiiailiaii!i Hhiircd in tho fur-Hual tlMhory, no complaint ol oxtormination would ovor havo lioon lunu'd of liy tho imldic. That Hiirli (lovornmoiit, jud^;oil hy its netionn, han ostikblixhod little claim to any (roncrogity or forbcaraiii'o on tho ]iart of tho llritish, hut moro ONpooially of tho ('anadian |hio]i1o. 'riial tlio allocation pulilioly mailo hy a iinmiinont statuHiuan that tho Viotorin, Itritixh Columbia, fnr-soal indiist ry Im lar^joly ooiidurtod by Amori.'.ni ':;ipital anil ontvrprisu, in, go far as your momoriulista arc oiiiu'oniod, alwulutoly orroiiooiis ami without finiuilation. That your niomoriulists havo soon, with humiliation and sorrow, tho <la>» of thoir nmntrj', to which thov havo over lioon aooustomod to hiok for jirotoction, porvorlud on tho ImlioHt of a foroi};n I'owor frimi itg lo);itimato function ; into an instrument of ojiprossion, and your mnmorialiHtg havo iMiun driven from their lawful avocations on tho hij»li seas with tho loss of tho entire scnson. That in the year 188(1 vessels, tlio jiniiiorty of your memorialists, wore seized by tho American cruizors on the hifjli seas, upwards of tiO miles distant from land, their iirojierty confiscated and their crews imprisoned, tho hardships and cruelties (unworthy of a civilized nation) gulfered by them resultinf; in tho dontli, duriiif; his custody, of the captain of one of tho vessels, and that to this day the losses and indiu'iiitios omlurcil by your memorialists riMnain unredressed. That the iillo^ed diminution in the number of seals is, if true (althoujjh every ovidenee proves the contrary), far more likely to have resulted from the oiieratioiis of the lessees of the rribylolT Islands in 8laU}jlitoriiif» lliom by hundreds ol thousands at their broodins-phicos, than from tho comparatively insifiniticaiit oponitions of your niomorinlists, scattered over a vast area of tho I'licitic Ocean. That under all tho circumstances of the case, your memorialists liiivinj; been dojirived of tho profits of their whole season's business, for which they were perniitted to clear at llritish Custom-houses, moat earnestly appeal to your Ixirdship's sense of right and justice to grant them compensation for their losses. That it is the custom of tho t:;tdo to pay hunters engaged in it at a rnto of so much per skin for all skins taken, nnd sailors at so much per mouth, tho voyage generally lasting until about tho end of September. That many of your memorialists' vessels have been in port for weeks, their voyage ended, and crews I'aiil oil' at rates wholly inadequate to their winter maintenance, and in many cases insunicient to pay their passages back to Kastern Canada, where their homes are. That in asking compensation your memorialists have in view tho losses of their men as well as their own, and if awardeil compensation on the basis hereinafter suagosted, will undertake to pay all hunters a-ul sailors employed by them at such rates as they would have been entitled to receive had the usual average number of seals been taken in Uohring's Sea, and the voyage been completed at the end of i^cptcmber. Tiiat your memorialists respectfully suggest, as the only equitable method of computing such compensation, that they be allowed the value at current prices of such number of seal-skins as they would presumably have killed in lieliring's Sen had their voyoge not been arrested, estimated at the average take per l)oat or canoe carried for the \\\fX, three years (exclusive of such vessels us were seized or driven out of Behring's Sea in 1889). That such princijile, if accepted by tho Imperial Government, will save the expense of further inquiry, and, by obviating a delay in payment, will confer a boon upon your memorialists. Your memorialists, therefore, humbly pray that your Lordship will be pleased to take such prompt action for their relief as in your wisdom you may deem right and just. And your memorialists, as in duty bound, will ever pray. (Signed) K B. MARVIN ANn Co. Vanemwer, British Columbia, September 1, 1891. (And 17 others.) •*i.^iJ,iJtiS^ ^mf f of Stato fur ;cd in Fur-ieal loyally to llic i-Hi>i!>'l for your [iiiin llio rocont Hi\\ riirliiiim'iit, I liir>{0 )>(ililii:o- iiH dulrimoiit of f of lliii United i(<vnr nmdo nny lid tlm son-ottoT, liMtH fonfidimtly luiiiiili"" would \y ponerosity or Iritiuli Colunibift, o\ir ini'nioriiilista onntrj-, to wlii(^li ni(;n I'owor from Iwun drivon from )y tlio American isciitiMl nnd tlioir l>y tlu'Hi rcHultinK uy the losses and donco proves the ibylolT Islands in ho comparatively Ocean. I of tlio profits lom-houac8, most 3nsation for tlioir nnch per skin for about the end of oyago ended, nnd cases insuflicient _. men as well as clertake to pay all ed to receive had completed at the computing such seal-skins as they estimated at the lels as were seized xpenso of further dists. take such prompt RVIN ANn Co. 17 others.) Appindix (C). 9ir, Ottawa, September 19, 1R91. I hftvo tho honour to nrknowledKn the receipt of your letter of Iho 1st iimtant, forwardinK, on behalf of the Seniors' AsHociatioii of Vie.toriu, llritiHli (Ntluiiiliin, a Memorial addnmsed to tho Ki^dit ]Ioiioiirnl)lo Ilur MajeHly's I'rineipal Sdcnilary of HUle for Korei^jn Allairs, sinned by tho owners, mana^'in^ owiierH, and af{uiits of the (Canadian seulinK lleet. 1 have lirini){lit the Memnrial to the iitlontiiiu of liis Kxcelleiii'y tiie (Jovemor-Oenoral, with tho view of coiiiiiuiMieatinK the same to ller Mnji'sly's (iovriniiii^iit. I muy add that any further repreHeiilalioiis whieh it may bo drrmud iieceHsary to niiike. on any branch of tho (piestion will ut all limes receive my prompt alleiilioii. I may state, for tho iiifonnution of Ihe AMsoeiution, that, in thu nef{otiati(ms leadin;{ up to tho present viodim vivrnili, tint (iovemmctnt of dunada has not neglected to represent the great interest of Canadians itiif^afjed in tlie fin'seid industry. Vour Association is, [ titko it, already aware of tho vi(!ws of ]Ii>r Majesty's (ioverninent on the ({ueHllon of conipenstttion, since they were communiealed through anotiier ehanuel, in answer to former prutestH. I will, however, repeat that Her Majesty's Oovernment has intimated that, while they incline to thu iHdief that the closure of Hcthring's Sea to all sealinf{ oiMirations both on land and ut scit will so enhance the value of thu catch that tho prices realized will comptiiisuto tho sealers for their loss of the DehrinK's Sea vJxU-h, they will be prepared to consider claims to recomiKtnse where it can bu shown tliat actual loss has accrued liy reason of thu legislation under review. Formal jirotests on behalf of some ei|,;ht or ten returned vesse.'s have already reached me, and havo boon bntu^ht to the attention of ller Majesty's Uoveniment. I observe that your letter intimates that in some instancon no claims can lio, as the vessels returned with full catches. I havo noted your dosiro that I should advise your Association touching any further steps that might bu taken. • I have, &c. (Signed) UHAULES H. TUPPKR. Richard Hall, Esq., Secretary, Victoria Sealers' Association, Victoria. No. 152. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (^Received October 27.) My Lord, Washington, October 19, 1891. I HAVE the honour to tranflmit a copy of a note in relation to the cotnpenRation clause of the Behrinp's Sea Arbitration Agreement whic!'. in accordance with the instructions contained in your Lordship's telegram of tho I5ih instant, I addressed to tho Acting Secretary of State. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 152. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Wharton. Sir, Washington, October 17, 1891. IMMEDIATELY on the receipt of your note of the 23rd July last, relative to the form of compensation clause to be inserted in the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement, I transmitted a copy of it to the Marquis of Salisbury. Since then I have been in corre- spondence with his Lordship respecting the new form of clause on that subject proposed in your note as Article 7. I regret to inform you that Her Majesty's Government, after the fullest consideration, have arrived at the conclusion that this new clause could not properly be assented to by them. In their opinion it implies an admission of a doctrine respecting the liability of Governments for the acts of their nationals, or other persons sailing under their flag, on the high seas, for which there is no warrant in the law of nations. Thus it contains the following words : — " The Government of the United States having presented on its own behalf, as well as of the lessees of the privilege of taking seals on the Pribyloff Islands, claims for compensation by reason of the killing of seals in Behring's Sea by persons acting under the protection of the British flag, the Arbitrators sbail consider and decide upon such idaims," &c. ^6723 P It i !!-f i ! 1 1 I > !iE ll ■ i -, i — - ' ■ "" —■ ■■^' ■ 106 These words involve tlio propoMitioti that Her MnjoHly's Oovcrnmpnt arc liable to make K^od losxeg reKiiltintf from tlie vroiigi'ul uction of pcrsoni nailing outiiide their jurisdiction under tlic Britisli tiai;. Her AJaje8tj''H (Jovcrnnient coidd not accept mich a doctrine. Tiie Article dealing with the question of eoin|iensHt!on is th«rofore likely to (tivo occasion lor lengthy negotiations, which must retard indefinitely the dcciiion of the niiiin 3uo.>ttiona of law on which thu validity of the claims of cither Qovernmont entirely eitond. Both GovcrnmentH being equally dcsirouB to find a prompt solution of the difficulty which now impedes the conclusion of the Arbitration Agreemont, Lord BalUbury has authorized me to make the following proposal : — His Lordship suggests that the six Articles of the Arbitration Agreement already accepted by botii (lovcrnincnts should be signed now. and also an Article providing for the reference to the Arbitrators of any question of fact »vhich cither Government may desire to submit to tlicm regarding the claims for compensation to which it considers itself to be entitled. Tlie application of international law to those facta would he loft as a matter f(ir further negotiation after they slinll have been asoertained, and might bu sul)se(iuently rcterred to the Arbitrators, in whole ur In (wrt, if thu two Oovernmcnts should agree to do so. The aijovc proposal presents so logical and practical an issue out of the dinioulty that I cannot but tliink that it will commend itself to the favourable cousidoration of thu President, and I hope it will meet with his acceptance. 1 have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 153. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received October 30.) Sir, Downing Street, October 29, 1891. I AM tlirccted by Lord Knutsforxi to trotismil to you, to be laid befcre the Marquis of Salisbury, with reference to previous correspondence, a copy of a telegram from the Guvernor-Gcneral of Canada stating that the Bcbring's Sea Commissioners are awaiting instructions at Ottawa. I am, &c. (Sit;ned) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosure in No. 153. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford, (Tel"sr;ii.bic.) Ottawa, October 24, 1891. BADKN-POWELL ar.) Dawson returned and await instructions here. No. 154. The Mariiula of Saliiiburp lo the Behring's Se* Commissioners. Gentlemen, Foreign Offict, October 80, 1891. WITH reference to your despatch of the .'>tb August last, I tiansnitt to you herewith a copy of a despatch from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington,* inclosing correspondence with the United States Government respecting the number of seals killotl during the recent fishing season in Behring's Sea. I shall be glad to receive any observations you may have to make on this despatch. I am, &o. (Signed) SAWSBURY, • No. 147. ■ .■_--.ii.tu, ■.i^-j; mm re liable to utitiile iholr ikely to p(l»o of the main ent entirely the difficulty Bkllibury hatt mnt ulrcaily provldlnR for eminent may li it conaidcrH juUl be lolt M ind migbt bu Oovernment* the dlflloulty iarailon of tbu NCEFOTE. ber 29, 1891. ;re the Mavciuis pgrain from the irs are «WMtl»g m\MSlt)N. ober 24, 1891. Irs. Jofrer 80, 1891. ti-ansmit to you Jigton,* inclosing |cr of seals killoJ I this de«p«tch. [s/VUSBURY, wr ' ' ' No. Iflfl. Foriipn Offici to »ir O. Baden- Powell. Sir, Fori-lijii O/fire, October 8(», 1801. I AM directed l)y tlu' M.irquii of Salisbury to iickiio\vli'(i<;e tlio receipt of your Memorandum, diitni the l(>ti\ Au;;ust, on tlic liniitatinii of tlio number of fur-sculi to be taken on tiie IViliyloff Islaiiils during tlif Kenson ot )8!)i. Hit Lurdnhip dotirei me to convey to you iiis tiianks for tiii« cnmnuinication. i am, &c. (Signed) I'. CURRIE. No. IfiO. Sir .7. Pnunrcfolp to lit" Mdnjitis of SalinhHrij.—{Rficrive(l Cclober 31.) (Telegrapbic.) Wtmhhujtnu, Oclnitrr 'M, I80i. I SAW Mr. Bliiine to-day on tiie subject of tlie llelirinLr's Soa arliitrntion. He told nic that he approved of my li.st pro|)osal to the elloet that ih^' slvcii Arbitr.ition Articles nnd tlio Article providing Tor u Joint Coiniius«ioii shoidil hi- signed at onw piMvi^lonidly, with a view to their bcin;: suhsequciitly oniinxlicd in forinnl (lociiinrnts. He added tliat lie was rr'iidy to pi'oceed .it once to discuss with v.w the Ai-liclcs of the Arhitiation Convention which still remained unsettled n^pcctin^ the appointment ul AihitiatoiA and other matters, and he asliod mo whether I could t;ive him any information as to your Lordshiji's views on tliis snlijoct. On my expressin;; my inability to do so, he threw out the siigjfestion that it would be best, in view of all llie cireumstanees of the case, if the Court of Arbitrotor.s were to be .'Jinposed of English and American jurists of repute, two on each side, with an Um])ire to be chosen by some loicign I'ower to be ni;reed on between the two Govern- mentii. Me gaid he would iiave no objection to Holland, Sweden, France, or Switzerland. In bii opinion, the appointment of Eni:(lish and American jurists as ArbitiatDi's was advisable on account of the community, not only of language, but of the jirinciples of law, of Great Britain and the United States. He asked mo to inform your Lordship of this suggestion, and to ascertain the views taken of it by iler Majesty's Government. No. 157. The Behring's Sea Commissioners to the Marquis of Salisbunj, — {Received November 2.) My Lord, Vancouver, October li, 1891, IN continuation of our despatch of the 17th September last, wc have the honour to report that, after leaving Behring's Sea, we visited Kodiak island, Sitka, and Sbakau, making intjuiries of both the natives and White residents at those jjlace.s. 2. Her Majesty's ship " Nymphe," on her way to Esquimalt, following & difleient course, met and as.sisted us at Sitka. 3. Continuing our cruize of investigation, we called at the following places on the coast of British Columbia, viz. : Fort Simpson, Metlakatla, Pori, Essington, Musset (Queen Charlotte Islands), Bella Bella, Nawithi, Clay xpiot Sound, and Barclay Sound, where, by personal inquiries, we amplified the written statements whieii, in compliance with our previous request, had been forwarded to us by the various Indian agents on the coast. 4. We have thus been enabled to acquire a direct knowledge of the fur-sealing industry, both past and present, as it affects the Indians of South-cast Alaska and British Columbia. 5. We also visited the Indian Settlement at Neah Bay, on tlie American shore of the Straits of Fuca, where we obtained valuable information. G. Reaching Esquimalt on the 8th October, we reported our arrival o the Commander-in-chief on the Pacific Station. 7. While at Victoria and Vancouver deputations from the Sealers' As.sociations met us, and from them and from others wc made final inquiries in order to obtain authoritatively the views of all persons connected with the fur-seal fishery on the facts of seal lite, and on the protective measures to which they would agree. [572] ■ P 2 i t ^! ^! ii' i I in 1 1 ;j (.■':'■ '■ i 1 .;? I» lii J 308 H. Wi' hIbo |mi(l n uppcinl viRit Jo ilio VNtncrirnn port of Seattle, llio chief cotitro of the Aniei'iimii pelii^ic oritliiiir iiidiiHli'v in I'li^et Soiiiid. I). Such JH (he reeonl ol' our IocmiI impiiricR i" the North t'acilln Ocenii, lit whieh we nvnileil ourM'lvei* of every known roiuto of inionoHtion likely to nti^iRt ur in urriviii|{ itl Roinitl eoneluRinnR. 10. \Vn now proeeeil ilirect to Ottnwii, conipletinn our lleport lo ller MnjoRty, luid awaitiuf); liirtlter inRtruetioiiH. Wo have, &e. (Signed) (JKOIKJK HADKN-POVVKl,!,. GKOIUJK M. DAWSON. No. IftR. Thf l{r!ning\<> Sra Com win at on rm lo the MarquiH of Snliiihury, — {Itficrivcd Novfuiber 2.) My Lord. Port Williom, Onlmio, Ortnhn- ^\), IH1»1. Wrrit reforeiu'o lo your liOrdnhip's drspidcli nl' the I'Jih Sciilondier IiibI, rRRpe(iill^ (he lindladon ol' (lie itinulior '^( xciil)* (o lu> killed ou (lie I'rihylod' iRlnmlR thin yrm, wo liMVo i\\v honour lo iiilorn\ ytuu- Lordsliip tluU <>ti tlio li'^tli iimliuit wo reeeived a piivnte letter IVoui Sir .lulinn I'iouum lotc iiilorn\inir ur iIuiI "'I'lie Uoiled MinteR* iiovnii- tuont have irplinl lo o\u'"' (Her Maji'slv'R (lovenuneul's) "eoinitlainl ol' tin* violation of tlic moihis virniili. '\\\v\ ailniit Ihal Major Williains allowed no Ii'sr than l'2,(t7l Roals In he killed. They do not nay thai they apprr)ve liiR aetioii, hut they merely (jive Iuh «'\plaunliouR, and hope Her Mi\ieNty'R Ciovenunent will he MitiRlied that he had no diRpoRi- <iou to violate fhe Agivenu'nt." Mi\j(>r Williams iiil'ormed ur flu the iRlandR early in Au|;ust that nearly {|,00(l Realn had heeu Killed hy (ha(, date, aiul that the killing would he Rto|tped until thu "Rtagey " Reason was over, hut ivRVuned in Oetoher. We therel'ore aRRUme that .'t.OOO ol' the 12,0/1 are to he killed (hiR autuuui, and have tluH day addresned to your lA)rdship a eypher telegram of whieh the lollowiiii; in a ]>araphraso :— '•Odnhrr HI, IHftl. "Sir Julian Pauneel'ole inforniR ur that the United HtateR* (loverninonl itdiuit thai poruiission has heeu ijiveu lo kdl I '2,000 seals ou the Real iRhuitlR tliis year. We (luderstand that ahout .'<,000 ottheRe romain to lie killed tluR autumn; whereloro we hope that the United Slates" (iovornuu'ul have agreed to send iuRtruetioiiR to the iHlandH In stop Killing at onee until May USlVi,— HADKN-rowni.L." We noticed in the newspapers a report that the United StutcR' revenue-cruizer "Rush," ^^n arrival at San Kraneiseo, was ui\exiieetedly ordered to ivturn to the I'rihyloU' Islands \\\ the early part ot Oetoher. The Uiuled StntcR' (ii)vcriunent thus hud an opi>or(uiiily. ol which ihey possildy availeil themselves, of sending to the seal islands the mwssary onler^ to stop al! t'urther killing this year. W'e can hardly HuppoRc that they Wviulii nogleel so good an occasion, at all evei\ls lo mitigate the eU'eets ot the nuHunder- standing ot" d.uise i! ol' the modus virrndi, Imt wo had ourselves no iulormation as to any such action l-.aving hern taken hy the United States' (iovcrmneut. inul as Sir ,Iuliaii rauncefote did not mention the point we Iclt it our duty to at once coniniuuiealc our views hy telegraph to yo\n- Lordship. We hove, Sic. (Si-ne.i) (JEOIIGK nAnRN.|'f)WKL}.. GKOKGK M. DAWSON. No. 159. TJif Brhring's Sea Commiisiiionrrx lo the Marquis of Salisbury.— '(Received November 2.) My Ixin:, Ottawa, October 21, 1601. WE I. -we the honour to transmit, for your Lordahip's consideration, u cojjy of a Memorial which \ as handed to ns on the 14th instant by the Sealers' Asso ;iution ol' Vancouver, stating their special claims for compensatmn on nccount of the P oclamatiun issued tor this year against the taking of fur-seal in Beliring's Sea. r ceniro of n wliloli wr uriivint? »' OVVKM. her 2.) ovrm rlO. 1HU1. isl, rRBpcftiiii: ,U iliif* y»'nr, wc ictTivrd II \nim' iiovoiii- |ii< violutioii i»l '2,071 f"'"!" '" prcly (OV" '"^ md no tlispow- iily O.nOO hoi\1h I Iho " niiWy " R miUii'vn. and n rollowin;: is » ^oc W), IHlll. imU (ulniil timl lis yi'ur. We iploro wo l\i)ii!- (he itdimdH to v('V('n\io-cvui7.i'i- (o tlio rribylolV 1, tl>n« lind II" Hciil islinidrt llu' ,|)()no (lint, Mk'V tlio inimmdrr- iiution as ti) nny us Sir .luliini )innnnnciilc our I WSON. ; November 2.) iber 21, 1S91. Ion, u coi)y of i» \ Assp ;iution ol the P oclamatiun m Wt) informed llio AHsocirifion iiint Mic milijrrt wns ono (nifsidf (lir prcrinc r«'0|io of our ('riinniiMioii, but tliiit, wp would liiivf iilniHiiro in layiiif^ ilio Mrnidrinl before your rori'nlii|i. VVt! Iinvc ti\m, in nompliiuirc willi (lir« r(•(|n(•^^, of tli" HnnlorH' ARSocinlioii, trnnmnittod n (M)|iy of ilic Monioriiil (,o Ibo (Jovurnor-dfnrrMJ of ('iiiiinii;. Wo liavr, Ike. (Kigiicd) «)i;OJlf;K llAnrW-POWELL. (JK()K(;k m. ijawson. Incloflurn in No. IfiO. Thi> Vancouver Healprif' Amioriation In Ilia llehring't Hen CommimonerK. (lonllnincn, [No diilr.'\ W'Vi, tlic iMidprBiiinc'd ownerB of tlie drniiiii^ fleet of llic city of VtuKjouvcr, liavn the hoiKiiir III innKi' thr liiiliiwin^ rcprcm'ntatinim : — 'riial wiiilc rdl owiicir of «naliii(j-vrHHp|H in (ho province nnmt Imvc BufTercd from the opi'ralioii of (ho moiliin lirt'mli, wo, Iho owncrM of IIk; noaliDK (loot, hojonitin^ (o the f:ity of Viiiicmivor, have piolinlily loit (ho Imrdship Iho kiobI, severoiy (rofn the roason that the inihishy is niliroly n now niio, the whole- (loot, of vorhoIs linvitiK been built within the lant low nioiidiM, and ei|(itppod liy ur for (lie nole -mu'iioho of |)rocccditig to liehring'R Sea in the [laRt Boaaoii, 'I hut at (ho ooninionocmoii( and dnritii^ IIk- ('oriHtniotion of those vrssel» wc had no rrnson (o BuppoRo ihat any loBtrielion w(;uld ho pliicod upoti their rnovefiierits. Thai. ImviiiK ooniplotod (lioni, wo in (;ooil faith wc-nt to the (;ieal experiRe of fitting Iheni out for the llfdierion, and in fact had no inloiitioii [? intimation] of iho cfieetB of tlio mmluH rivriitli until aflor thoir arrival in Hilnini^'s Koa. That Iho induNlry hoiuK ii now ono wi(li im, and not having tlio (irofilahlc reBul(» of provioiiB yoarB as an oflfiot, wc, an before B(alo(l, are the greutoBt BufFcrers by the notion of Iho (ioverninont in tbiH roBpoet. We would alno oall your at.cntion to (ho fiut lliat the liuntorM etn|iloye(l in tlio ahove* nunind vobboIr wore ongaged for (ho voya«o, and rooi-ivod no other reconiponso than an ninonnt per Hhiii Buvod, iih agreed n|ioii, am! conKcipicntiy they bavc iiiudc a eiuini upon (lie ownerH for coinpoiiHalioii iiaiod upon (;ainiiit;s of former years. Wo have not tliought it neoosHiiry to burden you with further detftilH of our ruBO, as you nnmt be aiieady fully cogni/ant of it, hut sliall be glud nt any time to Bupply any inforinution in our power. We have, &e. (Signed) I). OPFF.NIIICFMKR, Prexidmt. (And othofB.) .No. 1 00. Sir J, Pnunci-foln to the Marfjuis of SaliHbary.-'—{Ueccived November 2.) My [iOni, yVtmlnnrjlon, October 2^, 1891. WITH rofei'oiKo to my telegram of (he HMh iiiHtaiif, F have tlie honour to incloHO copioH of iiotoH wliioh I liavc oxolianged with tiie Acting Secretory of Htatc, recording the adoption by both (Jovcrnnieids of (lie Hcven ArtielcH of the Hehring's Hva Arbitration Agreement oh (Inally settled. Mr. Wliarton informed nio yesterday that the F'roHident is of opinion that no formal instrument Hbould bo signed until ail the olher jirovisionH relating to the numbei and choice of Arbitrators and the time and place of their witting, &e., have been settled, %o tlinl the whole may I'o embodied in a Convention to be laid before fJongress. I suggested that, in the meanwhile, co])ies of the seven Articles and of the Joint Commission Article, which have been agreed to, should be .tigned b/ him and me on bclialf of our respective Governments. He said that he would submit ihat course to the President. F have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAT'NCErOTE. I 110 .. Inclosure 1 in No. 160. Mr. Wharton to Si^ J. Pauncefote. Sir, Department of State, Washington, October 23, 1891. I HAVE laid before the President your note of the IVth instant, and he directs me to express his regret tliat your Government has not .seen tit to accept the niodifietl form of tlic 7th clause wiiich was proposed in my note of tiie 23rd July last. This modification of the clause in question was made with a view to obviate the objection urged in your note of the 13th July, and the President is unable to see how it can be held to imply an admission on the part of Great Britain "of a doctrine respecting the liability of Governments for the acts of their nationals or other persons sailing under their flag on the high seas for which there is no warrant in international law." The proposition was expressly framed, so as to submit to the Arbitrators the question of the liability of each Government for specified acts complained of by the other, and its langufige no more implies an admission of liability on the part of one Government than on the part of the other. It is ]nccisely because the two Governments cannot agree as to tlic question of liability that arbitration becomes necessary. The facts upon which the respective claims for compensation rest are not seriously in dispute; to wit, the seizure of vessels and the killing of seals in Behiing's Sea, and it would probably not require the aid of iNrbitrators for their .ascertainment. But it is the more important and difficult question of liability respecting which the two Governments find it nocessary to invoke the interposition of impartial arbitration. It was not the intenticm of th^s Covcrnment to reqtiire of Great Britain any admission of liability for the acts cov.. 'tii' ' ^ but it has felt that if the arbitration was to result in a full settlement of t'.» '":'..■ j.3 between tlie two Governments, the question of respective liability for these act.^ should go to the Arbitrators for decision. In the informal Conferences which have taken place between us since the date of my note of the 23rd July, you will remember that I have solicited from you any sugges- ti(m3 in siippoit of tlie objection that the modified clause assumes a liability on the part of your Government, having in view on my part an amendment of the phraseology to over- come the objection, and I iiavc to express disappointment that no such suggestions were found in your note of the 17th instant. It was for this reason, and in the hope that the clause miglit be made acceptable to your Government, that, after the receipt of your note, I submitted to you informally the following amendment to be added to the 7th clause, as proposed in my note of the 23rd July : — "The above provision for the submission to the Arbitrators by the United States of claims for compensation by reason of the killing of seals by persons acting under the protection of the Biitisii fiag shall not be considered as implying any admission on the part of the G -ernment of Great Britain of its liability for the acts of its nationals or other persons sailing under its (lag." AVe have now been informed by you that your Government is unwilling tr -':.m;|.:, the clause even witli ibis addition by way of amendment. When in your note of the 21st February last you communicated the desiri o! ■• ; Salisbury lor a " reference to the Arbitrator of the question of damages due to pt rr r who have Ijcen injured, in case it should be determined by him that tlie action of tu' United Slates in seizing Britisii vessels had been without warrant in international law," the I'resident cheerluUy accepted the suggestion, and, coupling wit'ii it the claim of damages jireferred by the United State,->, proposed to submit both questions, as presented by the respective Governments, to arbitration, thus making a complete an J final settlement of all ilifl'eronces between the two Governments connected with the seal fisheries. To w'thdraw this comprehensive submission of specified claims, and substitute for it a mere reference to the Arbitrntor of ([uestions of facts touching the same claims, which are not to be held binding upon either (■'ovcrmnent, as you propose, is. in the opinion of the President, an imperfect, and, he fears, Ufi}' prove, an ineffee . •' disposi- tion of the question of claims. But having failed in hi- 'H'orts by nio.i' ', -r.:!) and amendment to secure the acceptance by your Governmeni m i' ,• clause for a i'.i* ,"' jj' nient of these claims, ami lieailily participating in the d^ .c expressed in youi te lor a pr.)mpt solution of the diliieulty which impedes the conclusion of the arbitration, he has thouglit it best t.) terminate the discussion by i^ronosing to you the following, to constitute the text of clause 7 : — "The respective Governments Uaving f-vmd theirisf.^rs unable to agree upon a reference which shall include the question of <'ae iiabil-'y oc each for the injuries alleged 'n ■ 23, 1891. ic directs me iiodified form V to obviate is unable to of a doctrine atlicr persons international 3 the question other, and its srnment than nnot agree as pon which the the seizure of )t require the it and difficult sary to invoke ,'ovcrnment to ^ hut it has .■ j,5 between ould go to the ce the date of r)u any sugges- ity on the part eology to over- iggestions were hope that the )t of your note, the 7th clause, nited States of acting under f admission op )f its natiohalb illing to ".coq.t dcsiv. ol ■ •' i due to pers r e action of ti." n-nalion&l law," t the claim of IS. as presented )lete anJ tinal witli the seal and substitute e same claims, )pose, is. in the (tec . :■' disposi- o,;':,!-'^-.!n and )r a V','* ••'" J.i'' n you. 10 i')i arbitration, he c following, to ) agree upon a injuries alleged 111 to have been sustained by tlic other, or by its citizens, in connection with tiic claims presented and urged by it, and being .solicitous that this subordiniite question should not interrupt or longer delay the submission and determination of the main questions, do agree that either may submit to the Arbitrators any question of fact involved in Scaid claims and ask for a finding thcroon, the quosticMi of Jie liability of either Goverijmcnt upon the facts found to be the subject of further negotiation." I hav.\ &c. (Signed^ W. F. WHARTON. Inciosure 2 in No. 160. Sir J, Pauncefoie to Mr. Wharton. Sir, Washington, October 2.3, 1891. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of 3'our note of yesterday's date in replj' to mine of the 17th instant, in which 1 stated the grounds on which Ilcr Majesty's Government found themselves unable to accept the form of clause relating to damages, proposed in your note of the 23rd .July last for insertion in the liehring's Sea Arbitration Agreement. In that note, I informed you that I had been authorized by the Marqui? of Salisbury, with a view to a proi.:nt settlement of the difficulty, to make tlie following suggestion, namely, that "the six Ailiclos of the Arbitration Agreement already accepted by both Governments should he signed now, and also an Article providing for the reference to the Arbitrators of any question of fact which cither Government may desire to submit to them regarding the claims for compensation to which it considers itself to be entitled. The application of international law to those facts would be left as a matter for future negotiation after they sliall have been ascertained, and might be subsequently referred to the Arbitrators in whole or in part if the two Governments should agree to do so." In your note under acknowledgment, in which you reply to the above suggef.tion, you advert to the discus.sions and informal conferences, which have taken place on the subject of the clause dealing witii the question of domagos, and you state that the President is unrble to see how the seventh clause, ])roposod in your note of the 2.'^rd July last, can be held to imply an admission on the part of Great Brit;. in "of a doctrine respecting the liability of Governments for the acts of their natioiials, or other persons sailing under their flag on the high seas, for which there is no warrant in international law." Those are, no doubt, the terms in whicli I stated generally the objection of Her Majesty's Government to the form of clause in question. Hut I am relieved from explaining their objection in greater detail by the proposal of the Pre.'^ident, with which your note concludes, to substitute a new clause, which substantially carries out Lord Salisbury's suggestion, You state thct the President has thought it best to terminate the discussion by pro- posing to me the following to constitute the text of clause 7 : — "The respective Governments, having found themselves unable to agree upon a reference whicli shall include the question of the liability of each for the '"ijurics alleged to have been sustained by the other, (ir by its citi>.ens, in connection with the claims presented and urged by it, and being solicitous that this subordinate question should not interrupt or longer delay the submission .1 ul determination o*^ the main questions, do agree that either may submit to *he Arbi.rators any question 01 fact involved in said claims, and ask for a findir.g ihcreon, the '[uestion of the liability of either Government upon the facts found to be the s'lbject of iwther negotiation." I am glad to be able to an...':'-"."'j to you that I have received by telegraph the authority of Lord Salisbury to accept the above clause on behalf of Her Majesty's Government, and, in doing so, I beg to express my gratification at this satisfactory solution of the difficulty which has delayed the conclusion of the Arbitration Agreement. , I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. i; 1 li 1 J if 1 't ,) ' '< ;i ■ \ i ! '^^^FX^P^^^ 112 No. 161. Foreign Office to Colonial Office. Sir, Foreign Office, November 2, 1891. I AM directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to transmit, to be laid before Secretary Lord Knutsford, a paraphrase of a telegram from Her Majesty's Minister at Washington,* reporting an interview with Mr. Blaine respecting the Behring's Sea arbitration. His Lordshij) will be glad to be favoured with Lord Knutsford'a opinion on Mr. Blaine's suggestion that Britisn and United States' jurists of repute, two on each side, should be appointed as Arbitrators, and that an Umpire should be selected by one of the foreign Powers named. Lord Salisbury is of opinion that the proposal to appoint jurists as Arbitrators might Le accepted by Her Majesty's Government, and he is disposed to think that the choice of the foreign Power witii whom the selection of the Umpire is to rest should be decided by lot. I am, &c. (Signed) P. CURRIE. No. 162. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J, Pauncefote. Sir, Foreign Office, November 6, 1891. I HA\i:. rec<;iv?d your despatch of the 23rd ultmo, inclosing copies of the notes which you have exchanged with the Acting Secretary of State, recording the adoption by the British and American Governments of the seven Articles of the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement as finally settled. In reply, I have to state that Her Majesty's Government approve the terms of your note, as well as the suggestion made by you to Mr. Wharton respecting the signature of the Articles as reported in the last pai'ugi'aph of your despatch. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY No. 163. The Marquis of Salisbury to the Behring's Sea Commissioners. Gentlemen, Foreign Office, November 6, 189L I HAVE received your despatch of the 21st ultimo, forwarding a copy of a Memorial from the Sealers' Association of Vancouver, in which the latter state their special claims for compensation on account of the Proclamation issued against the taking of fur- seal in Behring's Sea. The answer which you returned to the Association, as reported in the same despatch, is approved by Her Majesty's Government. I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. No. 164. The Marquis of Salisbury to the Behring's Sea Commissioners. Gentlemen, Foreign Office, November 6, 1891. I HAVE received your despatch of the Nth ultimo reporting your movements, in the prosecution of the inquiry with which you have been charged, between the 1 8th September and the IJth October. I have to state that your proceedings are approved by Her Majesty's Government. 1 am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. Np. 190. !, 1891. Secretary ihington,* T. Blaine's should be ;he foreign tors might > choice of be decided URRIE. 6, 1891. )ie8 of the cording the le Behring'8 rms of your signature of ilSBURY \r 6, 1891. copy of a their special liking of fur- ne despatch, llSBURY. \r 6, 1891. movements, [between the Ivernmeat. .ISBURY. 113 So, 1G5. Admiralty to Foreign Office. — {Received November 12.) Sir, Admiralty, November 10, 1891. I AM commanded by the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty to transmit, for the information of the Secretory of State for Foreign Allairs, copy of the remarks of the Commander-in-chief on the Pacific Station, dated the 1st October, in forwarding the Report of Her Majesty's ships in the Behring's Sea in 1891, received from Commander Turner, of Her Majesty's ship "Nymphc " My Lords propose, v,ith the concurrence of Lord Salisbury, to approve of the proceedings of Commander Turner, of Her Majesty's ship "Nymplie," Commander Barr, of Her Majesty's ship " Porpoise," and Lieutenant Iladley, of Her Majesty's ship "Pheasant." I am, &c. (Signed) EVAN MACGREGOR. Inclosure 1 in No. 1G5. Rear-Admiral Hotham to Admiralty. (General Report of Proceedings of Her Majesty's ships in the Behring's Sea, 1891.) " Warspite" at Esquimalt, October 17, 1891. FORWARDED, observing I am glad to be able to bring to their Lordships' notice the good feeling that existed between Her Majesty's ships and tliose of the United States; also that the Commissioners of Seal Fishery question (Sir G. Baden-Powell, K.C.M.G., M.P., and Professor Dawson, of anada) have represented to me by letter their appreciation of the aid they recoiv' J from Commander Burr, of Her Majesty's ship " Porpoise," and Lieutenani-Commanuor Hadley, Her Majesty's ship " Pheasant," in carrying out their work, under the superintendence of Commander Turner, Senior British Naval Officer. (Signed) CHAS. F. HOTHAM. Inclosure 2 in No. 1G5. Commander Turner to Rear-Admiral Hotham. Sir, " Nymphe," at Esquimalt, October 8, 1891. I HAVE the honour to report that on arriving at Esquimalt from a cruize on the 16th Juno, I found awaiting nie telegraphic orders from the Admiralty to proceed with Her Majesty's ship " Pheasant " to the Behring's Sea as soon as possible, and there co-operate with the United States' men-of-war in warning sealing-vessels to leave the Behring's Sea, and in seizing those who might fail to heed the warning. I received later telegrams, ordering me to charter steam-collier "Costa Rica" to take to the Behring's Sea 2,000 tons of coal for the use of Her Ma,jesty's ships, and also to charter steam-ship " Danube " for the use of Sir George Baden-Powell, K.C.M.G., and Dr. Dawson, Her Majesty's Commissioners. On the 27th June I proceeded to Hiuliuk Harbour, Ounalaska, after leaving orders for Her Majesty's ship " Pheasant " and steam-ship " Costa Rica " to leave for the same port as soon as they were ready for sea, and on my arrival I found in harbour the British schooner " E. B. Marvin," which had been seized by the revenue-steamer "Rush" for sealing in the Behring's Sea after being warned. The United States' force in the Behring's Sea was United States' ships "Mohican," "Alert," "Thetis," and the revenue-steamers "Corwin" and "Rush." United States' ship " Marion " did not arrive until the 17th August; steam-ship " Alki" was also chartered to bring up a detachment of marines, and they used her as a :cceiving-ship for the crews of captured sealers and as an escort for taking schooners, which had been seized, to Sitka. I took from the " E. B. Marvin " all their guns, ammunition, and seal-skins, and sent her down to Victoria with orders to report herself on arrival to the Collector of I Customs. [572] (* ryrr. ■"1 ,1 i i: 1 ! :.|:. 'i ■'■ ! ■ 't ! i H 1 ! ?l : \'1 1.' '- I \' h ili : I ! i ,r 114 Steam-shin " Costa Rica " arrived at Ounakska on the 9th, Her Majesty's ship "Pheasant " on the 12th, and Her Majesty's shij) " Porpoise " from the China Station on the 27th July. Before leaving Ounalaska I left orders for Her Majesty's ships " Porpoise " and " Pheasant " to coa' immediately on arrival, and cruize on the stations agreed upon (Her Majesty's ship '' Xymphe " and United States' ship "Alert" on the eastern, and Her Majesty's shij) "Pheasant" and United States' ship "Mohican" on the western side of the Pribylolf Islands), and seize all vessels which had been previously warned, letting go with a warning those whicli had not been boarded before. With my orders, I sent to each ship a letter of warning, to be given to tlio masters of schooners boarded, a form of certificate to be written in the log or register ot each vessel warned, and instructions for the boarding officer, copies of all of which are inclosed herewith. On the 12th July, after receiving from United States' ship "Mohican" a list of all vesse'ls which had been warned, and copies of which I left for Her Majesty's ships " Porpoise e' and " Plieasant," 1 sailed for the Pribyloff Islands, and cruized to the north- cast of them, according to arrangement with Commander Cotton, Senior American Naval Officr. On the ISth July I anchored off St. Paul's village, and United States' sliips "Mohican" and "Thetis" arrived the same day. United States' ship "Alert" and Her Majesty's ship "Pheasant" arriving on the 19th. United States' ship "Mohican" reported 5 vessels warned by herself, 2 by United States' siiip "Thetis," by United States' revenue-steamer "Corwin," and 3 by United States' revenue-steamcr "Rush," while I warned 1 vessel and Her Majesty's ship " Pheasant " 5. The Captains of all the men-of-war in port called on the Government and Seal Company's agents at St. Paul's, and visited the rookeries in company with them. It was especially pointed out that the seals were decreasing, as on the largest rookery a great tract of land, which a few years ago had been covered with seals, and the boulders and rocks on which had been worn smooth by them, was now totally deserted, and no increase of seals had been observed on other rookeries to compensate for this deficiency. On arriving at Ounalaska on the 25th July I found there steam-ship "Danube,"' with Her Majesty's Commissioners on board, and Her Majesty's ship " Pheasant." Steam-ship " Danube " sailed for the Pribyloff Islands on tiie 20th July, and on the 29th July I sent Her Majesty's ship " Pheasant " to meet her there, so that she might place proper boats, &c., at the disposal of Sir George Baden-Powell. United States' ship " Albatross " with the United States' Commissioners, Professor Mendenbnll and Professor Dall, arrived at Ounalaska on the 25th July, and ii few days afterwards proceeded to the Pribyloff Islands. On the 1st August I ordered steam-ship "Costa Rica" to proceed to Sitka, and from there fetch mails and stores which steam-ship " Queen " was bringing up for Her Majesty's ships in the Behring's Sea. On the 1st August, after leaving sailing orders for Her Majesty's ship "Porpoise" to proceed to sea on the 7th, cruize around the Pribyloff Islands, and return on tlie l!)th, I left Ounalaska and anchored at St. Paul's on the 8th August, having warned two hling-schooners during the cruize. I proceeded from St. Paul's on the 10th August and cruized till the 18th, touching; at tiie Islands of St. Matthew and St. Lawrence, and at the former place I met steam- ship " Danube " in company with Her Majesty's ship " Pheasant." Her Majesty's ship " Porpoise " arrived at Ounalaska from her cruize on the 19th, and steam-ship "Costa Rica" with mails from Sitka, and Her Majesty's ship " Plieasant " on the 20th August. Steam-ship " Danube " arrived on the 21st August, and sailed again for the Island of Attou on the 24th. I ordered Her Majesty's ship "Porpoise" to proceed tn the same destination, so that she might render the same help to Her Majesty's Com- missioners as Her Majesty's ship " Pheasant " had on their last cruize. I also ordorcil Her Majesty's ship "Porpoise" to proceed to the China Station as soon as steam-ship "Danube" started to return to Ounalaska. On the '28th August I sailed from Ounalaska .and proceeded to the westward, anchoring again at Ounalaska on the 6tli, September. During this cruize, a record of all seals seen was kept for the information of Iler Majesty's Commissioners. I ordered Her Majesty's ship "Pheasant" to proceed towards St. George's, Pribyloff Islands, on the 1st September, to cruize from there to Capo Newenham, and return on a zigzag course to Ounalaska. ~ym^ ijesty's ship la Station on rpoisc" anil agreed upon the eastern, an " on the >n previously given to the or register of of which are liican " a list lajesty's ships to the north- ior American States' ships Icrt" and Her p "Mohican" ' hy United ivmer "Rush," mcnt and Seal ,vith them. It argcst rookery seals, and the ly deserted, and ensate for this hip "Danube,"' leasant." fh July, and on that she might aners, Professor and u few days id to Sitka, and )ringing up for hip " Porpoise " n-n on the l!)th. ing warned two ; 18th, touchinu' ce 1 met steam - cruize on the r Majesty's ship again for the ■ " to proceed to Majesty's Com- I also ordoreil on as steam-ship o the westward, ;e, a record of all s St. George's, Newcnham, ami 110 On the Ist September the United States' ship " Mohican " towed into port the British schooner " Otto," in accordance with my letter to Commander C. S. Co' Ion, United States' Navy, dated the 26th August. 1891, a copy of which is herewith inclosed. Her Majesty's ship " Pheasant " was in harbour at the time, and after taking charge of her papers sent her down to Victoria. On arriving at Ounalaska on the Gth September, T found in port United States' ships "Mohican," "Marion," "Alert," and "Thetis," and as United States' ship " Alert " had received telegraphic orders for China, and could not obtain either coal or oil at Ounalaska, I sold her the amount of each she required. United States' ship " Marion " sailed on the 7th, and the United States' ship "Alert" on the 10th August, for China, and later United States' ship "Mohican" and United States' ship " Thetis " went out for a cruize. Commander Cotton intending to sail for San Francisco after his return to Ounalaska. Steam-ship " Danube " arrived at Ounalaska on the 17th September. As vessels coming in brought news that the usual heavy weather had set in, and 1 considered tiiere was no further chance of sealing in open boats for the remainder of this year, and as Sir George Baden-Powell informed me that h>. intended to proceed to Sitka, I Hailed from Ounalaska for that port on the 20th September, at the same time as steam-ship " Danube " and steam-ship " Costa Rica." After coaling at Sitka from steam-ship " Costa Rica," I ordered her to proceed to Esquimau on the 2tJth September. Steam-ship " Danube " left Sitka on the 27th September, and went down by the outside route, calling at various ports for sealing information. I sailed from Sitka on the 27th September, and arrived at this port on the 2nd October. Before leaving the Behrlng's Sea, I thanked Commander Cotton and the officers in command of United States' men-of-war for the efficient manner in which they had co-operated with me. Her ^Majesty's ships " Porpoise " and " Pheasant " also materially aided me in my mission. The weather experienced on the whole was very foggy and rainy, and the fogs greatly aided the sealing-schooners in escaping observation. I hare, &c. (Signed) CHAS. T. TURNER. luclosure 3 in No. 165. Letter of IVarninrj addressed by Commander Turner to the Masters of Sealing Schooners. Sir, " Nymphe, Behring's Sea, IN accordance with the Proclamation of Her Britannic Alajesty's Government, a copy of which is herewith handed you, and in compliance with the orders of the British Admiralty, you Jire hereby warned not to engage in the killing or taking of seals in that nart of Behring's Sea lying cast of the boundary-line between United States and Russian waters, referred to in the Proclamation, and the position of which, traced upon a Chart, will be shown you by the officer who delivers this. The name of your vessel will he furnished to all vessels of war (British and United States') and revenue-vessels in this sea, and you will be subject to seizure if you fail to heed this warning, and are found to be, or to have been, engaged in sealing in the prohibited waters since its delivery to you. I have, &c. (Signed) CHAS. T. TURNER. . Inclosure i in No. 165. Form of Certificate to be copied in Register or Log by Boarding Officer. H.M.S Date I CERTIFY that I have this day delivered the Proclamation of Her Britannic Majesty and letter of warning of to leave these waters forthwith to this vessel, and that there are now skins on board. [572] Q 2 1i: 1 ■■!,,. ,1 ;i ■•' f : . ' -I , I ■ M|l,i 1,1! ■It h. ■ II: . ii 3i • ' 116 Data. Date. Place or position (when boarded), name of vessel, name of owner, name of master, nationality, port of register, tonnage, number of skins taken, number of skins oa board. Remarks. Inclosure 6 in No. 1G3. Instructions for Boarding Officer. "Nymphe," at Ounalaska, July 12, 1891. THE boarding officer will deliver the Proclamation of Her Britannic Majesty and the letter of warning to masters of vessels, read the letter to them, and make entry on register or log (preferably the register) of all vessels engaged in, or equipped for, sealing, certifying to the delivery. He will ascertain, if possible, the number of skins taken, and the number on board, if the vessel be a sealer or equipped as one. If the master states there are none, he will take his statement as correct, but if he states that a certain number are on board, he will satisfy himself that the number is not less than that stated. If the master declares any intention as to his future movements, the boarding officer will make a note of it. A tracing showing the line of demarcation between the United States' and Russian waters is to be furnished for his information, and that of masters of vessels boarded. (Signed) CHAS. T. TURNER, The Commanding Officers, Commander and Senior Officer. Her Majesty's ships "Porpoise" and "Pheasant." Inclosure 6 in No. 165. Commander Thtrner to Commander Cotton, U.S.N. Sir, " Nymphe," at Ounalaska, August 26, 1891. I HAVE the honour to inform you that since I told you by word!^ of mouth only that I considered schooner "Otto " to be a jnst and lawful capture for any vessel of war of either nation, as she had sailed for the Behring's Sea for sealing purposes after I had told the Collector of Customs, Mr. Milne, of the Proclamation, I now put this in writing for your guidance. I have, &c. (Signed) CHAS. T. TURNER. No. 166. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received November 16.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, November 16, 1891. MR. BLAINE informed me to-day that he was ready to agree to the followin{: arrangements : — The Arbitrators, who must all be jurists of repute, and understand English, are to be seven in number. Two British subjects (one may be a Canadian) shall bo appointed by Her Majesty's Government. Two Americans shall be appointed by the United States' Government. The other three shall bo appointed by foreign Governments. He has no objection to selection by France, Holland, Sweden, Switzerland, Mexico, or Brazil. He thought Paris would not be objected to as place of sitting, tut he could not pledge himself, as he had omitted to consult the President. Copies of the Articles of the Arbitration Agreement and the Joint Commission Article, as agreed on in correspondence, are being prepared for signature. 117 of owner, skina taken, ly 12, 1891. c Majesty and nakc entry on equipped for, iber on board, I are none, he are on board, If the master r will make a d States' and iters of vessels RNER, enior Officer. ust 26, 1891. of mouth only y vessel of war jses after I had i this in writing '. TURNER. ler 16.) iber 16, 1891. J the foUowin!; English, are to all ho appointed by the United 1 Governments, and, Mexico, or ut he could not )iut Commission re. No. 107. . * Foreign Office to Admiralty. Sir, Foreign Office, November 19, 1801. I AM directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the lOlh instant, inclosing a general Report of the proceedings of Her Majesty's ships in the Behring's Sea, which has been sent home by the Commander-in- chief on the Pacific Station. I am to state that Lord Salisbury concurs in the proposal of the Lords Commissionera of the Admiralty to approve the proceedings of Commanders Turner and Barr and Lieutenant Hadley, of Her Majesty's ships " Nymphe," " Porpoise," and " Pheasant." I am, &c. (Signed) T. H. SANDERSON. Na 168. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received November 21.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, November 21, 1891. WITH reference to the last paragraph of my telegram of the 16th instant, Monday next has been appointed by Mr. Blaine for signature. The following headings have been agreed upon : — "The following is the text of Articles for insertion in the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement, as settled in the diplomatic correspondence between (the two Governments respectively)." Por the Joint Commission Article the same heading, mutatis mutandis. Are they approved by your Lordship ? No. 169. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, November 22, 1891. YOU are authorized to sign the Arbitration Agreement and the Joint Commission Article with the headings suggest^id in your telegram of yesterday ; but you should hand in a note containing the following reservations at the time of doing so : — Firstly, that it is understood by Article 6 that the question of the necessity of any Regulations for the proper protection and the preservation of fur-seals in, or habitually resorting to, the Behring's Sea is left to the decision of the Arbitrators, as well as the nature of those Regulations, if the necessity, in their judgment, is proved to exist. Secondly, that the observance of the Regulations will not become obligatory on the United States and Great Britain until the other Maritime Powers also shall have accepted them. Great Britain and the United States would otherwise simply hand over to the nationals of other countries the right of exterminating the seals. No. 170. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received November 23.) (Extract.) Washington, November 13, 1891. I HAVE the honour to transmit herewith copies of a narrative by a correspondent of the "New York Herald" (published in that journal on the 8th instant) of his voyage to Behring's Sea during the last seal fishery season, undertaken for the purpose of inquiring into the facts connected with that industry. A part of the narrative which is of special interest is that which appears at the close under the heading, " How to save the Seal." :|" 'Mi •I .! Ir l: ■■■ , I r^: ni • Inclosure in No. 170. Extracts from the "New York Herald" of November 8, 1891. Illicit Sealing. — Irs Rise and Increase in tub Last Ten Years in Behuing's Sea. — Theiv are two systems of seal liuntinj; ; one with Indian hunters, who get paid from 2 dollars to 4 dollars for every skin a canoo hriiiga in, and the other ■with White hunters, Avho are paid a little less. The Indians hunt in "anoes, two in each, and use the spoar almost exclusively ; the Wiiite lumt r has a steerer and a boat puller, and uses the gun, loaded with five drams of gunpowder and ah. at twenty buckshot. It is the latter method that is so complaiiuMl of hy tliose who wish to prevent the extermination of the seal, as they say with truth a very large pertontage are shot and either killed or mortally wounded, without heiug recovered. On the 2nd July we left Victoria, intending to make our iirst call at a Settlement of Indians called Ciayoquot. It seemed strange that, although the Queen's Procdama- tion forbidding the killing of seals hy British subjects had already been announced, no diJiculty was made by the authorities in giving the captain of the "Otto" his clearr nee for the Behring's Sea. Neither Avas he ofllcially informed of the Proclama- tion, notwithstanding the fact that Her ^Majesty's steam-ships " Pheasant " and "Nymphc" had already sailed from Esquiraait to the sea to carry out the orders of the Queen's Government. Before going into the history of the cruise of the " Otto," a short account of the rise and development of the seal-poaehing industry will be necessary. Although the poachers, to give them the name accorded to thorn by the public generally, arc styled Canadian, a largo number hail from San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, and Port Townsend, in the United States ; and many of those sailing from Victoria and Vancouver, British Colombia, under the British flag, are partly owned by American citizens. The first schooner on record to enter the Behring's Sea in pursuit of seals was the American-owned " Santiago," of San Francisco, in 1879. It was not until the fall of 1883 that the " 3<'avourite," with the present captain of the " Otto " on board, pioneered the way for the Canadian sealers. In 1881 there were only six schooners from San Francisco and Victoria combined that entered the sea. Year by year the seals have been driven fui'ther north, and each successive year has seen an increase in the number of poachers. Last year (1890) twenty-three schooners sailed from Victoria, and this year the number reported bad increased out of all proportion. Every port on the Pacific coast, from San Francisco to Victoria, appeared to haye sent out its quota, and on the day the " Otto " left the latter place it was stated that fifty-three schooners >verc already on their way to the famous sealing grounds from that port. The " Victorian Colonist " gave the names and owners of that number, although I afterwards found out there were over eighty-nine sealers in the sea this year. It is hard to explain this large increase, in the face of both the American and British Governments proclaiming a ;'lose season. One reason given was that neither the Americans nor British cruizers intended to interfere, and that the Proclamation and sending of men-of-war to the sea were only done to satisfy the American public. Another reason is a most unaccountable one. Somehow the rumour gained currency that a bounty or compensation will be paid to the OAvner of every schooner that is stopped from sealing. The Indians, with their spears, did not lose more than 1 per cent, of what they hit, as the fact of losing their game meant losing their harpoon and line as well. On the other hand, the Indians complained that the White hunters with their guns had scared the seals from the coast of the islands, and that they lose at the very least 20 per cent, of what they shoot and kill or wound, to eventually die. " A few years ago," said the Father, "the Chuckelset Indians caught over 1,000 seals ofif the coast of the island in their canoes, but they cannot do that now. The guns of the White hunters have scared them all away. "The seal," said Father Brabant, "is a most intelligent animal ; they even wake the sleepers when they see danger approaching, and there is no doubt they have left our coast owing to the guns. Why, the Indians themselves used to have a law against the use of guns. Another thing that I cannot see the equity of," said the Father, " is that the American Company have been allowed 7,500 skins this year for the support of their Indians. If the Aleuts are to be supported, why should the Vancouver Indians be debarred from their chief source of livelihood. The Aleuts, as a fact, do not require the Company to look after them. If they were left 119 EA.n8 IN hunters, the other >s, two in per unci a it twenty 10 wisli to icrcontage icttlemcnt Proelama- innounccd, Otto" his I'roclaraa- sant" and ic orders of he " Otto," ,try will l3e hem hy the rrancisco, ly of those sh ilag, are of seals was Lot until the ) " on hoard, six schooners by year the in an increase 1 sailed from jrtion. eared to have IS stated that grounds from ,hat number, sea this year, merican and that neither Proclamation eriean public, jned currency looner that is vhat they hit, jvell. On the leir guns had the very least I' A few years Iff the coast of of the "White ley even wake Ihey have left » have a law of," said the 1 this year for ■why should Llihood. The they were left seals boat of S(' alone on their own islands, instead of being moved about as they arc, they could hunt for themselves." Fatlier Brabant said he linrdly knevr how the futura extermination of the soah was to bo prevented, unless the two Governments were to tnko sealing under their supervision ; that is, ])rovidcd the Delunng's Sea was not a closed sea. They could license sealers, restrict them as to the number of seals (taught, and make a close season during the breeding time, as there was no doubt that large numbers of females bsaring young were killed. • ••••• Wednesday, the 20th August, was a good sealing day, and I was for some hours out in tlui Indian canoe. The result of the day's work gives a fair example of the friglitful percentage of seals that are killed and never recovered. The two boats and the canoe started out early in the forenoon and returned at six. The captain had one seal and Iiad lost six others, either killed or wounded. Phillip, who was doing the shooting in the other boat, said that they had got up on to no less than seven seals and shot them, but they had all sunk. The men said the water was covered with blood, but they could not get the animals. The two Indians, who used nothing but the spear, returned with ten. They had missed fifteen or twenty, but, as one of them philosophically remarked to the captain, " It does not matter, they are not hurt like Avith the gun, or killed, and they will do for another day or year." "We managed to take sights this day, and found we were 7'> miles west by north of the volcanoes on the peninsula. On the 27tli and 28th August very little was done, as the weather was too rough for the boats to go out. Three siials were captured in the forenoon of tlie 27th before it came on to blow, when M e wore once again under storm trysail and double reefed foresail. On the following day, the 28th, the boats were out all day and returned without catching anything, the captain thinking we were too far to the northward and eastward. He said he wanted the wind to get to tlie west. On the next day the boats were out the greater part of the day, and our catch for the day was seventeen The captain brought i^i three, having lost four, killed or Avounded. The other brought in three, having killed five, and the Indians ten, making a total enteen. During the skinnhig of the seals on deck, Avbich is always done at night after the boats return, the schooner's decks were covered on this occasion, as on many previous ones, not only with blood, but with large quantities of milk, showing that many seals that had been killed were nourishing their youni;' at the time, the result being that the pups on the island would starve for want of nursing, as no seal will feed any young ones except her own. • ♦ • « • ,• ■ . How TO SAVE THE SEAL : A PLAN TO PRKVENT ITS EXTEBMIXATION IN TEE NEAK PuTUiiE. — At present the question of whether Behring's Sea is open waters or not is in statu quo. In the event, however, of its being dcoiared a part of the high seas by the arbiti'ation yet to be held, it would be absolutely necessary to propose a plan to prevent the future extermination of the scol, which there is little doubt would happen within a few years, unless some very strenuoi;:: measures are taken for its protection. The close seav.on idea would hardly be practicable, as it is during the season of breeding that the lessees of the islands kill their seals, who arc then found on the rookeries, and it is only during this season that the seals to any large extent are found there. Of course, on the islands they kill nothing but the y,..i.^ bulls. To make a close season for the open sea, and allow the seals to be killed v t'lcir breeding places, would bo almost an impossibility. The following plan, Aviiich I su1)inittcd to many of the largest fnr-trad<>rs in both Victoria and San Francisco, the members of the Alaska Commercial Company — the late lessees of the island— as avcU as many of those avIio Avere absolutely employed in the hunting, seems to be the most feasibhi method of protecting the very necessary animals, AN-hich, perhaps, though they are a luxm-y, are still to a certain extent a necessity. The North American Commercial, Company, avIio now lease tlu^ seal- breeding islands known as the Pribyloll' group, pay the l.'nited States 100,000 dollars per year, and !) dol. 62 c. per skin for everything they take from the island. "When there was no limit to the number of seals that they Avere alloAvcd to kill, before the present modus vivendi Avas agreed upon bctAveen the United States and Great Britain, their payments brought into the American Government a revenue of about 300,000 dollars per year. This is a very small item in the revenue of such a great \'A\ |i. ■u I .• » ■ 1 1 .f 1 r I : 'I 'i lllH' ! V 1 120 nation, nnd it has been su^gestod that the Qovornmont of tho United States slmh rofrnin from leasing tho Prihylolf Islands to any Company whatever ; that no seals shall bo killed on the rookeries, which shall be retained to allow tho fur-bearing seal a safe breeding place. On consideration of tho United States nifraining from leasing tho islands, the right of doing which they would, of course, still legally retain, an international agree- ment could be entered into between the ditfereiit nations, making it a criminal oil'encc for any poacher to be found sailing Mitiiin a prescribed distance of the island — say, from (30 to 80 miles around them — whicii would give fcMualo seals lots of space to feed in. Those to whom I suggested this solution, even ulthough interested in scia Hohooners, said they would be perfectly willing to aecei)t such a law, and that they could catch outside of the 80-mile limit sullieient seals to make seal-hunting as good a paying business as it was heretofore. In addition to this, it has been suggested that all soaling-schooners should bo licensed, and any vessel found hunting the seal in Behring's Sea or outside of it without a licence should be seized, and no shooting should be allowed. The cost of maintaining cruizers to see that this was done would bo very small, as there would be a very restricted area of the Behring's Sea to patrol. The above, of course, would only be feasible in the event of the sea being declared open, for if tlie Arbitration Committee rule that it is a closed sea, and belongs to the United States, of course all poachers would be liable to sei/Aire. No. 171. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Saliabunj. — {Received November 2.').) (Telegraphic.) Washington, November 21, 1891, 1 ADDllESSEU a note to Mr. Blaine, as instructed by your Lordship's telegram of the 22nd instant, and this morning liad a long interview with him. Ho has postponed the signing until he has referred the matter to the President and Cabinet, who sit to-day. Both reservations arc objected to by him, especially the second, which he said imposed a new condition never before suggested during tho j 'otiations. He said he would advise the President not to accept it. I stated that your Lordship only desired to obviate doubts or d ^es at a later stage, and was most anxious for tho arbitration. I repeated your jjuiUship's reasons for the reservation, and pointed out that it was only in the event of the Arbitrators, by their decision, proclaiming to the world that pelagic fishery was free to all flags that the question would arise. In that case we could not stultify ourselves by submitting to Regulations not obligatory on all. Mr. Blaine then asked me what Her Majesty's Government would consent to do after the 1st May, pending tho adhesion of the other Powers. Would a cessation of sealing be agreed to by them ? I informed him, in reply, that I could not say what their action would be, but that probably the Regulations recommended by the Joint Commission or the Arbitrators, pending the result of the invitation to tho Powers, would be voluntarily conformed to. Mr. Blaine then took my note with him to the Cabinet, and promised to send me a reply. i No. 172. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received November 28.) 1 (Telegraphic.) Washington, November 27, 1891. WITH reference to my telegram of the 21th instant, Mr. Blaine's reply has just been received. Copy transmitted by post. It is to the following eflfect : — [See Inelosure in Sir J. Pauncefote's despatch of the 27th November : Inclosure in No. 179, ?n/ra.] -T^r tatcs shah t no seals ring seal a shmds, tht! onul a!»rce- nal olVenci- iland — say, ace to feed ted in sea I that they g as good a ;gested that the seal in no shooting done would sa to patrol, ng declared dongs to the 25.) r 21, 1891. ip's telegram im. lie has and Cabinet, second, which itiations. He les at a later ship's reasons e Arbitrators, le to all flags ourselves by consent to do X cessation of not say what by the Joint , the Powers, ih him to the r 28.) 1 her 27, 1891. [reply has just Imber ; 121 No. 173. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, November 29, 1891. I HAVE received your telegram of the 27th instant. Mr. lUaino's statement, in liis note of whieh you report the receipt, that my first reservation is uaooccssary answers the end which that reservation was intended to answer, and it may, therefore, be waived. I did not by my second reservation intend to propose that the practical execution of tiio llegulations should bo delayed, but that the two Qovernmonts should protect themselves from being placed at the mercy cf some third Power, which, if not pledged to observe the Regulations, might step in and secure the flshery at the times and places where the United States and England would bind themselves by their Agreement to abstain from it. It is necessary that some precaution should be taken in this direction, otherwise the vessels, both British and American, at present engaged in sealing, might all, by simply procuring a Russian register, recover th-'ir entire freedom. I should, therefore, wish you to ascertain whether the United States' Government would be prepared to agree to some provision of the following nature : — If, after the expiration of one year from the date of any decision of the Arbitrators as to the necessity of concurrent Regulations, it should appear to cither of the two Powers that such Regulations are being violated under the flag of a third Power, to the serious injury of the flshery, the complaining Power shall have the right to give notice that the Regulations will bo suspended during the ensuing year, until arrangements are made by which the evil can be remedied. If, however, there should be any difference of opinion between the United States and Great Britain as to the fact that serious injury is being done to the flshery, or as to any other fact involved, such difference may be decided by referring the matter to the arbitration of two Admirals, one of the British and the other of the United States' navy, who may choose an Umpire in case they are unable to agree. ,. " No. 174. - ■ .■■• •■■'■'';■ ^■'^■' ■■■■ Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Received December 3.) My Lord, Washington, November 2S, 1891. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of yesterday, I have the honour to inclose herewith copy of a note which 1 have this day addressed to Mr. Blaine, stating the two reservations which your Lordship desires to make in regard to clause 6 of tho Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 174. is -f A •■•^I.:..A:. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Blaine. Sir, Washington, November 23, 1891. I INFORMED the Marquis of Salisbury of our proposal to sign the text of the seven Articles to bo inserted in the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement and of the .Toint Commission Article, as settled in the diplomatic correspondence, in order to record the progress made up to the present time in tlie negotiation. Lord Salisbury entirely approves of that proposal, but he has instructed me, before signing, to address a note to you for the purpose of obviating any doubts which might hereafter arise as to the meaning and effect of Article VI, which is as follows : — " If the determination of the foregoing (]|uestions as to tho exclusive jurisdiction of the United States shall leave the subject m such position that tho concurrence of Great Britain is necessary to the establishment of Regulations for the proper protection and the preservation of the fur-seal in, or habitually resorting to, tho Behring's Sea, t^a Arbitrators shall then determine what concurrent Regulations outside the jurisdictional limits of the respective Governments are necessary, and over what waters such Regulations should extend ; and to aid them in that determination the Report of the Joint Commission to be appointed by the respective Governments shall be laid before I i ) M ■,t ■I ■."j|W,lK*H(ftP.W), them, with such other evidence as eitiier (Government may suhmit. The Contractint: Powers furthermore agree to co-operate in securing the adhesion of other Powers to Huch lUjgulations." LoM Salishury desires to make the following two t*eservations on the abov(> Article : — His TA)r(lship understonds, flr»t, that the necessity of any Regulations is left to the Arbitrators, as well as the nature of those Regulations, if the accesity is in tlicir judgment proved ; sec tndly, that the Regulations will not become obKgsltory on Great Bri&in and the United States until they have been accepted by the other Maritiino Powers, otherwise, as his Lordship observes, the two Governments would be simply handing over to others the right of exterminating the seals. I have no doubt that you will havo no difficulty in concurring in the above reservations, and, subject thereto, I shall le prepared to sign the Articles as pi-oposed. I have, «Sm5. ^Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. ' No. 175. t--t Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Received December 4.) (Telegraphic.') Washington, December 3, 1891. i RECEIVED last night a rjply to my note of the 1st instant to Mr. JUaiuo, containing the substance of your Lordship's telegram of the 29th ultimo, copy of which was forwarded in my despatch of the same date. It is to the following effect : — The President of the United States is unable to se«3 danger of a third Po'- ci engaging in fishery re-^ai-dless of Regulations. The dispute has been in ptogrcss more thau five years. During all that time no European nation has engaged in sealing while Groat Britain was maintdning that Behring's Sea was open to all commerce. A Gorman vessel once appeared, but never returned, presumably tindiu!; scaling there unsu jcessful on account of great distance. Russia will not dissent, because such dissert would put to Iiazai'd hor own scaling property in Behring's Sea. On the contrary, she will sustain and strengthen whatever Agroomenc Gioat Britaii' and United StatfM may conjointly ordain. President therefore thinks your LordshipV .ipprehensious uot well grounded, but he believes that whatever may be the issa(> of the arbitration, " it will be wise for the two Governments to unite in a note to the principiii I'owers of Europe advising tlicr in full of what has been di)ne, and confidently asking their approval. Ho does not believc,with full explanation, any attempt will be made to disturb the Agreement. If, contrary to his firm beliei", the Agreement shall be disturbed by the interference oi a third Power, Great Britain and United States can act conjointly, and they can i! en far better agree on whn^ measure may be necessai-y to prevent the destruction of the seals than they can at this time." President hopes that the arbitration "will be allowed to proceed on the Agree- ment regularly and promptly. It is of great conscqiicneo ti) botli nations thai the dispute be ended, and that no delay bo caused by introducing now elements into the Agreement to which both nations have given their consent." sei in eoi sea the L'oed ■; : "V : . No. 176. The Behring's Sea Commissioners to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Received December .').) My Lord, Government House, Ottawa, Norember 25, 185)1. WE have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your Lordship's despatch of the 30th ultimo, inclosing a copy of a despatch from Her Mpiesty's Minister at Washington, transmitting cormspondenco with the United Stc ,' Govcrnnieni regarding the number of seals killed on fiio Pribyioft' Islands duriusr tiio season of 1891 in excess oi 7,500, and iuvUing from us any further observations we mn\ desire to offer on the subject. 2. We notice that in the said despatch, Sir Julian Pauncefote has given a complet- Huswer to many of the points in Mr. Wharton's letter of the 10th October. We T ^ontractiui: r Powers to I tUe abov«! tis is left to ;y is in thoir )ry on Great icr Maritime d be simply n the above 08 proposed. er 4.) nber 3, 1801. to Mr. 3Uaiue. Itimo, copy oi a tbird Po^- oi en in piogress ^ lias ongagod 'a was open to snmably iiudin-j nil not dissent, n llebring's Sea. ic, Gioat Britiiii' yoiir Lordsbip'^^ ,av be Ibo issue I in a note to the been done, and Explanation, any hiis lirm belie!". |cr, Civeat, Britain agree on wbnt tliey can at this td on the Agrce- )th nations tbat \<T now elements \vcd December f).) Uni'ier 2o, ISOl. fcrdsbip's despatol' triesty's Ministei -, ,' Uovcrnmeni in-iuCT tbo Heason ervations we inn\ Ugivcnacomplet' lotU October. We 128 would venture, howorer, to add some observations, the outcome of our special inquiry, in case the question is pursued further. 3. Wo would point out that the frequent references in Mr. Wharton's letter cc "killing for food" ai'c altogether beside the question. All skins of such seals, if of prcj.;; dize a^d condition, are accepted by the lessees, and arc always ineluded in their annual quota, while much of the flesh is taken for the sustenance of the natives, liut the 7,500 limit was fixed as a sufficient number of skins to cover t'lc cost of the care and sustenance of the natives, as indeed was acknowledged by the 'I'l-easury Agent, who, as reported by Mr. Wharton, called upon the lessees to bring in a snflicieut supjily of beef to carry the natives through the winter, although it might have been added that this beef would be purchased by the Government, and by them distributed to the natives. 'J'. Wc observe that Mr. Wharton points out that the Treasury Agent had reported that up to the 2nd July, 9,012 seals had been killed, lie does not explain that by the 20thilune, killing had been stopped on the expressed plea that the 7.600 limit had been reached. 5. Mr. Wharton points out that Major Williams consulted several American gentlemen, including the two United States' Commissioners and the Senior Naval Officer, as to the correctness of 1. s decision as to when the 7,500 limit \.as to be api)lie(l. Wc were informed that none of these gentlemen hsd seen the previous correspondence on the subject, so that their advieo was merely on * lie facts as presented to them on the spot. G. Wc could do no more than explani to the Agent that the Proclamation, correct as a migh' be in itself, did not ccmtain the whole ease. Neither Major Williams nor any of the American gentlemen he consulted had any information or instructions enabling them to understand the conditions to which the United Stales had previously agreed, and which were eventually embodied in the modus vivendi of the 5th June. 7. Both Profcssoi' Mendenhall and Dr. Merriam at the first expressed to \is their decided agreement with us in the opinion that the 7,500 limit must not be exceeded. It was only at a second charee interview that they explained that after looking into the question, thev saw that the pe;iod could only begin on the 15th June. 8. From tins view we entirely dissented, as recorded in our letter to Major Williams of the 30th July, a copy of Avhich was inclosed in our dcspotch of the 5th A igust last. 9. in I'cgard to the phitise "the catch this season" in our letter to Major Williams above mentioned, this was intended to include the same period as that covered {"n Mr. Blaine's letter of thclth jMay, 1891, to Sir Julian Pauncefote, in which Mr. Blaine s.ays: " II the Company shall .... be deprived of all privilege of taking seals, they certainly could not be compelled to minister to the wants of these 30() inliabitants for an entire year In this exigency the President proposes to eoneede to the North American Company the right to take a sufficient number of seals, and no more than sufficient, to recompense them for their outlay in taking care of the natives The Secretary of the Treasury after full consideration has limited the numbrr to 7,500, to repay tlieai for the outlay demanded for the support of the ;^00 people on the Pribyloff Islands," 10. We do not undci'str.nd that the United States' Government in any way indorse the action of the Treasury Agent, who, as we liave already pointed out, acted in ])erfoct i;ood faith, but was without the necessary instructions. 11. We ])resumo that all the skins takt *his year in excess of 7,500 will be held over for next y-'ivv's quota, inasmuch .ns if s^'id for the account of the Company *his year they woiild provide .'uuds very much more than sufficient to recompense them lor their outlay in taking care of the natives" for this entire year, which would be in direct oontra^fentiou of the expressed intentions and wishes of the President of the United States. Wc llAVC &C, (Signed)^ ' GEORGE BADEN-POWEIiL. GEORGE M. DAWSON. ..«it44 « 1fUt«t»l ik»u>i ^A* .'^Wn t- 1:1^ $ ( i n \2i No, 177. ' ' The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Foreign Office, December 5, 1891. I HAVE received your despatch of the 23rd ultimo, inclosing copy of a note \'liicli, in compliance with instructions contained in my telegram of the 22nd Ultimo, you have addressed to Mr. Blaine, setting forth the two reservations made by Her Majesty's Government with regard to clause (J of the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement. I have to state, in reply, that the note addressed by you to Mr. Blaine is approved by Her Majesty's Government. • , I am, &c. (Signed) SALISBURY. If No. 178. Sir J. Paunce/o!' to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received December 7.) My Lord, Washington, November 27, 1891. WITH reference to my telegram of the 24th instant, I have the honour now to report in greater detail what took place at the interview which I had with Mr. Blaine on that day respecting the two reservations which your Lordship instructed me to make before signing the clauses for insertion in the Behring's Sea Agreement. Mr. Blaine, who had before him the note which I had addressed 'o liim on the subject, and of which I transmitted a copy to your Lordship in my despatch of the 23rd instant, took exception to both reservations, which he said he could not advise tlie President to accept. I said that these reservations imposed no new conditions whatever, and were intended simply to obviate any doubt as to the meaning and effect of the 6th clause, and thus to prevent any disagreement at a later stage. Mr. Blaine asked what was the object of the first reservation. I replied that the 6th clause appeared to me to imply that Regulations for the control of pelagic sealing were necessary — a proposition which was opposed to the contention of Canada — and I presumed that it was on that ground that your Lorci ihip desired to make it clear that it would be open to the Arbitrators to hold that uo such Regulations at all were necessary. Mr. Blaine observed that he did not think the language of the clause precluded such a finding. He proceeded to express the strongest objection to the second reservation, which he said was calculaced to wreck the whole arrangement. How many maritime Powers, he asked, were to be invited to adhere to the Regulations ? What jirospect was there of obtaining their adhesion, seeing that they had declined the invitation of Mr. Bayard to join in an international arrangement for the protection of the fur-seal fisheries ? It had never been suggested before in the course of the negotiations that tlie Regulations to be framed should not be obligatory on the two Governments until they had received the adhesion of the other Powers. What were Her Majesty's Gover ament prepared to do pending such adhesion ? Would they consent to a cessation of pelagic sealing ? To these questions I replied that if, after a cariiful investigation and study by the Joint Commission, it should bo estab- lished by the Commission, or, in case of disagreement, by the arbitration, tliat certain Regulations arc necessary for the preservation of the seal species, it would be unreasonable to doubt that the Great Powers would acquiesce at once in those Regulations, or that the minor Powers would hesitate to follow their example. I pointed out that no International Regulations would be made unless the award of the Arbitrators should have previously proclaimed to the world that the fur-seal fishery in Behring's Sea is free to all flags. In that case, if the other Powers were, as Mr. Blaine apprehended, to refuse their adhesion to the Regulations, the result would be, in the words of your Lordship, that the two Governments most interested liad simply handed over to othere the riglit of exterminating the seals. Her Majesty's Government could hardly be expected to place themselves in such a position, 'they could not stultify themselves by submitting permanently or for any length of time to Regulations which were not equally obligatory on other Governments. What they would do, pending the adhesion of the Powers, I was not prepared to say, but I thought it probable that they would voluntarily observe the Regulations pending the ■i.! ^I'BPWA r 5, 1891. copy of a •am of the rations made , Arbitration 5 is approved ISBURY. r / .) •r 27, 1891. ( the honour sh I had with hip instructed Agreement, on the subject, } 23rd instant, the President whatever, and effect of the eplied that the pelagic sealing panada— and I ce it clear that ns at all were ause precluded to the second gement. How 3 Ucgulations ? sy had declined the protection I course of the ory on the two ?owers. What ision ? Would replied that if, lOuld bo estab- an, that certain it would be once in those ^amplc. oless the award lat the fur-seal Powers were, as he result would interested had Her Majesty's position, 'fhey 3ngth of time to te. What they _ to say, but I ms pending the 125 result of the invitation of Great Britain and the United States to the Powers, or so long as circumstances, in their judgment, might render it practicable. Mr. Blaine said he would send a reply to my noJe after laying the matter before the President and the Cabinet which was then sitting, and,*in the meanwhile, the signature of the clauses was postponed. I have, ^. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 179. ,. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury." — {Received December 7.) My Lord, Washington, November 27, 1891. IN my despatch of the 23rd instant I transmitted a copy of the note which I addressed to Mr. Blaine, informing him of the reservations which your Lordship had instructed me to make respecting clause 6 of the proposed Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement, before signing the text of the seven clauses as settled in the diplomatic correspondence. I now have the honour to inclose a copy of Mr. Blaine's reply to ihat note, which I received to-day. He appears to attach some weight to the fact of my having left with him, at hio request, a paper containing the text of the seven clauses as they appear in my copy of the diplomatic correspondence, and which I had caused to be prepared for the purpose of comparison and verification. He had himself handed me a few days before, ind for the same purpose, a similar paper containing the text of the clauses taken fiom his copy of the diplomatic correspondence. I an at a loss to understand how that exchange of courtesies, which is a common practice under similar circumstances, can possibly affect the questions under consideration. T hfliVG &c (Signed) ' JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 179. Mr. Blai n Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Departm<nt of Stale, Washington, Novemhn 2'( 1891. IN the early part of last week you furnished *he exact points which had been agreed upon for Arbitration in the matter of tin' Behrinj^'s Sea negotiation. You called later, and corrected the language which introdu. d tlic agrei cnt. In fact, the two copies framed were taken entirely from your Minutes. It was tlono with a view that you and I should sign them, and thus authenticate the points for tl Arbitrators to consider. You inform me now that Lord Salisbury asks to make ' '. o reservations in the 6th Article. His first reservation is that " the necessity of ai llegulation is left to the Arbitrators as well as the nature of those Regulations, if tiie necessity is in their judgment proved." What reason has Lord Salisbury for altering the text of the Art le to which he had agreed ? It is to be presumed that if Regulations are needed *' cy will be made. If they are not needed, the Arbitrators will not make them. Tin cement leaves the Arbitrators free upon that point. The first reservation, therel'ore, has no special meaning. The second reservation which Lord Salisbury makes is that " the Regulations shall not become obligatory on Great Britain and the United States until they have been accepted by the other Maritime Powers." Does Lord Salisbury mean that the United States and Great Britain shall refrain from taking seals until every Maritime Power joins in the Regulations P Or does he mean that sealing shall be resumed on the 1st May next, and that we shall proceed, as before the arbitration, until the Regulations have been accepted by the other " Maritime Powers "? * SubaUncs telegraphed. II "Maritime Powers" may mean one thing or another. Lord Salisbury did not say the principal maritime Powers. France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Austria, Turkey, Russia, Germany, Sweden, Holland, Belgium are all Maritime Powers in the sense that they maintain a navy, great or small. In like manner, Brazil, the Argentine Confederation, Chile, Peru, Mexico, and Japan are Maritime Powers. It would require a long time, three years at least, to get the assent of all these Powers. Mr. Bayard, on the 19th August, 1887, addressed Great Britain, Germany, France, Russia, Sweden and Norway, and Japan, with a view to securing some Regulations in regard to the seals in Behring's Sea. France, Japan, and Russia replied with languid indifference. Great Britain never replied in writing. Germany did not reply at all. Sweden and Norway said that the matter was of no interest to them. Thus it will he again. Such a proposition will postpone the matter indefinitely. The President regards Lord Salisbury's second reservation, therefore, as a material change in the terms of the arhitr-ion agreed upon by this Government, and he instructs me to say that he does not feel willing to take it into consideration. He adheres to every point of agreement which has been made between the two Powers, according to the text which you furnished. He will regret if Lord Salisbury shall insist on a substantially new agreement. He sees no objection to submitting the agreement to the principal Maritime Powers for their assent, but ho cannot agree that Great Britain and the United States shall make their adjustment dependent on the action of third parties who liave no direct interest in tlie seal fisheries, or that the settlement shall be })ostponed unti' those tliird parties see fit to act. I have &c (Signed) ' JAMES G. BLAINE. No. 180. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, December 7, 1891. I HAVE received your telegram of the 4th instant. The President of the United States does not, I think, rightly undei-stand the exact nature of the danger against which i think it necessary to make provision. Her Majesty's Government do not fear Hint Regulations which have been made by the Arbitrators will he rejected by any of the Maritime Powers ; but they think there is much ground for apprehension that those Powers may refuse to accept Treaties framed for the purpose of enabling our cruizers to arrest ships whicli ar(! violating the Regulations while sailing under their flag. It must be expected that, under these circumstances, sealing will be pursued under their flags during the close times. In signing the proposed Agreement, it certainly is not the intention of the two Powers to arrive at such a result. But should you find, after making a representation in the above sense, that th(> Pi-esident continues to hold the opinion that the danger 1 have indicated is too I'cmote to justify our incurring delay by guarding against it now, Her Majesty's Government ;ire Milling to yield to his appeal, and will not at this stage press for furth(>r discussion of tlie point. In that case, you are authorized to sign the Agreement as alreadv settled. Her Majesty's Governinont will, of course, retain their right of raising the point before the Arbitrators wlien the time arrives for determining the question of the Regulations ; and it is understood that full discretion will be vested in the Arbitrators to attach to any Regulations they may decide upon such conditions as, in view ot this difliculty, they may judge to be necessary and just to the interests of this country and of the United States. No. 181. ■: • : . > ; A'.,:t; Sw J. Pauncefote to the Morquio i,f SaKabvry.—XBeceived December 9A.l.L'iLi Ji' My Lord, _ Washington, December 1, 1891. I HAVE the honour to inclose copy of a note which, on receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 29th ultimo, I addressed to the Secretary of State la reply <MiipmHi ry did not I, Turkey, tbe sense Arg«ntine It would i6 Powers, y, Prance, Illations in ith languid eply at all. IS it will be 1 a material ■nt, and be ration. He ;wo Powers, isbury sball mitting tbe it agree tbat dent on tbe or tbat tbe BLAINE. ,er 7, 1891. dei'stand tbe vision. fe been made it tbey tbink ise to accept ps wbicli are r>xpected tbat, ring tbe close on of tbe two •epresentation tbe danger I igainst it now, il not at tbis autborized to sing tbe point icstion of tbe be Arbitrators n view ot tbis is country and mber 1. 1891. Bceipt of your State i» reply 127 to his note of tbe 27tb ultimo, objecting to reservations which Her Majesty's Govern- ment desire to make with respect to the 6tb clause of the proposed Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 181. > , Sir J. Pauncefole to Mr. Blaine. Sir, Washington, December 1, 1891. I COMMUNICATED by telegram to tbe Marquis of Salisl)ury the substance of vour note of the 27tb ultimo respecting tlie two reservations which Her Majesty's Government desire to make in relation to the 6th clause of tbe proposed Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement, as stated in my note of the 23rd ultimo, and I have now the honour to inform you that I have received a reply from his Lordship to the following effect. As regards the first reservation, Loi'd Salisbury observes that the statement contained in your note, that tbe clause leaves the Arbitrators free to decide whether Regulations are needed or not, assures the same end as the proposed reservation, which therefore becomes unnecessary, and may be put aside. With respect to the second reservation, bis Lordship states tbat it was not the intention of Her Majesty's Government to defer putting into execution any Regula- tions which the Arbitrators may prescribe. Its object is to prevent the fur-seal flsliery in Behring's Sea from being placed at the mercy of some third Power. There is nothing to prevent such third Power (Russia, for instance, as the most neighbouring nation), if unpledged, from stepping in and securing tbe fishery at the very .reasons and in the very places which may be closed to tbe sealers of Great Britain and tbe United States by the Regulations. Great circumspection is called for in tbis ''.irection, as British and American sealers might recover their freedom, and evade ill Regula- tions by simply lioisting tbe flag of a non-adhering Power. How is tbis difficulty to be met ? Lord Salisliury suggests tbat, if after tbe lapse of one year from the date of the decree of Regulations it shall appear to either Government that serious injury is occasioned to the fishery from the causes above mentioned, tbe Government complaining may give notice of the suspension of the Regulations during tbe ensuing year, and in such case tbe Regulations sball be suspended until arrangements are made to remedy tbe complaint. Lord Salisbury further proposes that, in case of any dispute arising between the two Governments as to tbe gravity of tbe injury caused to tbe fishery, or as to any other fact, tbe question in controversy sball be referred for decision to a British and an American Admiral, who, if tbey should be unable to agree, may select an Umpire, Ix)rd Salisbury desires me to ascertain whether some provision of the above nature would not meet the views of your Government. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. .v.o!. ,' ' ■'• ", No. 182. .■■--•.,, •, .-.■.^.- ■■ ,, Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received December 11.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, December 10, 1891. IMMEDIATELY on receipt of-your Lordship's telegram of the 7th instant relative to Behring's Sea 1 addressed a note to Mr. Blaine, as instructed, in the sense of the first part of the telegram above mentioned, concluding with the words " at such a result." I referred to a previous conversation which I had held with him on the same subject, and added that I did not understand him to deny my contention tbat if tiie arrangement arrived at between the two Governments were, as your Lordship apprehended, violated by ships under foreign flags, to the serious injury of the seal-fisliery, the Agreement must in that case collapse, as the two Governments could not be expected to enforce the Regula- tions on their nationals while such violations were taking place. For these reasons 1 expressed the hope that, on further consideration, the President would recognize the llli *i1 li,"? h ■'■■ 1 1 '' |«'ISfi,||p. 128 importance of arriving at some understandinp; of the nature suggflstci by your Lordship. I have to-day received a reply from Mr. Blaine to the falloTving effect (see inciosure in Sir J. Paunccfote's despatch of the 10th December). Shall T now reply to Mr. Blaine in the sense of the second part of your Lordship's telegram above mentioned, and offer to sign the Agreement, subject to the reservation and understanding set Corlh in the last paragraph ? I await your Lordship's instructions. ■f\ No. 183. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefole. (Telegrn'^hic.) Foreign Office, December 11, 1891. IN i';-.! to the inquiry in the last paragraph of your telegram of the 10th instant, I have to ir.;orm you that you are authorized to sign the Articles providing for the Behring's Sea Arbitration and Joint Commission, ns already settled, subject to the understanding explained in my telegram of the 7th instant. No. 184. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received December 15.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, December 14, 1891. I ADDRESSED a note to Mr. Blaine on receipt of your Lordship's telegram of the 11th instant, as proposed in the last paragraph of my telegram of the 10th instant. Following reply has just been received : — [See Inciosure 1 in Sir J. Pauncefotc's despatch of December 15 : Inciosure 1 in No. 192, infra.'] I will of course let Mr. Blaine know that, pending further instructions, I cannot sign. No. 185. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, December 10, 1891. 1 HAVE received your telegram of yesterday. Owing to the difficulties of carrying on negotiations by telegraphic communication, I am afraid that the President of the United States has imperfectly understood my meaning. At his request I have consented to defer any further discussion for the present as to the course to bo pursued in the event of the Regulations determined on by the Arbitrators for the preservation of the seal species being evaded by means of a change of flag. It was necessary in so doing that I should guard myself against the supposition of having narrowed by that consent the rights which accrue to the litigants or the Arbitrators under the Arbitration Agreement. But I did not, as the President appears to think, make a reservation in my last communication, or use that word. That a reservation mny be operative in respect to an Agreement, it must have the assent of both parties to that Agreement, and I have not asked for any such assent in the present instance of tlie United States' Government. I am in entire accord with the President in objecting to the submission of any points to the Arliitrators which the Agreement does not cmi)race. Whenever Mr. Blaine is willing to do so you are authorized to sign the Agreement. I' ' I by your m indosure • Lordship's reservation 11, 1891. 10th instant, iling for the ibject to the 15.) T 14, 1891. ip's telegram ; 10th instant. losure 1 in ions, I cannot er 10, 1891. ommuuication, inderstood my e present as to 16 Arbitrators of flag. supposition of tiganla or the 2sident appears word. That a assent of both in the present mission of any le Agreement. 129 No. 186. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received December 17.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, December 17, 1891. YOUR Lordship's telegram of yesterday received last night. I am addressing a note to Mr. Blaine in that sense, and expressing my willingness to sign. No. 187. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. '^(Received December 18.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, December 18, 1891. I HAVE the honour to report, with reference to my telegram of yesterday, that Mr. Blaine and I signed this morning the text of the seven Articles to be inserted in the Behring's Sea Arbitration Cuurention, and also the text of the Joint Commission Article. ■ ■ "^(clSS. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis >i " Salisbury. — (Received December 19.) My Lord. Washington, December 10, 1891. ON rv<;ceipt of your Lordship's telegram of tba 4th instant I sought an inter, view with Mr. Blaine. Owing to the pressure of business connected with the opening of Congress, I was unable to see him until the morning of the 8th, when I had a long discussion with him at the State Department on the subject of his note of the 2nd instant respecting the 6th Article of the proposed Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement. I pointed out to him that the danger which your Lordship apprehended was not so much from the non-acceptance by other Governments of the Fishery Regulations as from the practical difficulty of enforcing them without the power being given to British and American cruizers of arresting vessels under foreign flags found to be violating the Regulations. That was a power which foreign Governm(>nts would be unlikely to grant in view of the jealousy which exists respecting the right of search on the high seas. If your Lordship's apprehensions should be realized to such an extent as to cause serious injury to the fishery, the Agreement must necessarily collapse, as it could not be expected that either Government should continue to enforce on its nationals Regulations which wc-o being violated with impunity under foreign flags. Mr. Blaine readily admitted that in such case there 7.'ould be an end of the Agreement, and said that every one would then be free to go in and make havoc of the seal fisheiy; but he persisted in treating it as a most remote contingency. He deprecated making arrangements to meet the evil before it arose, and thought the mere suggestion of such interference by other Powers would be mischievous. The point had not been raised before, and he could not understand whv it should be introduced at this late hour when we were on the point of signing the Agrccaient. I replied that the difficulty of protecting the seal fishery otherwise than on the basis of an international agreement among all the Powers had been repeatedly pointed out in the press of both countries, and by every writer on the subject. It was, indeed, admitted by the last paragraph of the 6th Article itself, whereby the two Governments agreed to invite the adhesion of the other Powers to the Regulations. Even if the contingency in view were so remote, as Mr. Blaine contended, 1 could not see what harm it could do to have such understanding as that suggested by your Lordship, and proposed in my note of the Ist instant, which would provide for the case of any ditference of opinion arising as to the gravity of the injury caused to the fishery by the violation of the Regulations under foreign flags. Mr. Blaine said that he could not consent to add a new term to the 6th Article as already agreed to after so much correspondence and discussion. I replied that there could be no agreement if the two Governments were not ad idem as to its meaning. The arrangement proposed by vour Lordship was in no way inconsistent with the 6th Article. It was merely intended to make it clearer, and to regulate [572] S ll^^ i 'i 1 I 1 1 C ':! 130 the action of the two Govcrninenta in certain events which might cause difficultieft hereafter. Mr. RIaine, however, insisted that it would be time enough to deal with those difficulties if and when they should arise. I then brought the interview to a close, and on the same day I addressed a note to Mr. Blaine, of wliich a copy is transmitted lierewith. T reccivi'd tliis day a reply thereto, of whioli I have the honour to inclose a copy. This correspondence does not carry the matter any further, hut it places on record the fact that while the United States' Government admit that tlic proposed Regulations may be rendered nugatory by their violation under the flags of other Powers, they decline the reasonable proposal of Her Majesty's Government to settle beforeliand the conditions under which the Regulations shall be deemed to have lapsed or to be suspended. The conclusion would seem to be that each Government will be free to form its own judgment of the situation, and to take such action as it shall think fit under the circumstances. I have, &c. ;.. ■ . . > «; • . .; -■ i . ? (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCRFOTE. j;ti(Jx/- Inclosure 1 in No. 188. Mr. Blaine to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Department of State, IVushington, December 2, 1891. I HAVE attentively read your note of the 1st instant, and submitted it to the President. The President is unable to see the danger which Lord Salisbury apprehends, of a third nation engaging in taking seals regardless of the Agreement between Great Britoin and I he United States. The dispute between the two nations has now been in progress for more tlian five years. During all that time, while Great Britain was main- taining that tlie Beliring's Sea was open to all comers, at any time, as of right, not another European nation has engaged in sealing. A German vessel once made its appearance in Behring's Sea, but did not return, being satisfied, I suppose, that at the great distance they have to sail, the Germans could not successfully engage in scaling. Russia, whose interference Lord Salisbury seems to specially appreiiend, will not dissent from the Agreement, because such dissent would put to hazard her own sealing property in the Behring's Sea. On the contrary, we may confidently look to Russia to sustain and strengthen whatever agreement Great Britain and the United States may conjoint [y ordain. It is the judgment of the President, therefore, that the apprehension of Lord Salisbury is not well grounded. He believes that, however the arbitration between Great Britain and the United States may terminate, it will be wise for the two nations to unite in a note to the principal Powers of Europe, advising them in full of what has been done and confidently asking tlieir approval. He does not believe that, with full explanation, any attempt will be made to disturb the Agreement. If, contrary to his firm belief, the Agreement shall be disturbed by the interference of a third Power, Great Britain and the United States can act conjointly, and they can then far better agree upon what measure may be necessary to prevent the destruction of the seals than they can at this time. The President hopes that the arbitration between Great Britain and the United States will be allowed to proceed on the Agreement regularly and promptly. It is of great consequence to both nations that the dispute be ended, and that no delay be caused by introducing new elements into the Agreement to which both nations have given their consent. I have, Ac. (Signed) JAMES G. BLAINE. Inclosure 2 in No. 188. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Blaine. Sir, Washington, December 8, 1891. THE Marquis of Salisbury, to whom I telegraphed the contents of your note of the 2nd instant on the subject of the 6tb Article of the proposed Behring's Sea Arbitrator 'mmmm^ difficuUieft rith those I a note to a copy, on record ;egulations wcrs, they rcliand the or to be form its ; under the RFOTE. '^ 2,1891. I it to the ipprehends, veen Great ow been in I was main- f right, not not return, mans could ry seems to t would put •y, we may eat Britain n of Lord ween Great )ns to unite i been done ixplanation, belief, the ain and the at measure time. the United It is of y be caused given their LAINE. 131 Agreement, is under the impression that the President has not rightly understood his Lordship's apprehension with reference to tlie Regulations to be made by tlie Arbitrators under that Article. His fear is, not that the other Powers will reject the Ileguiations, but that they will refuse to allow the arrest by British and Ami-rican cruizers of .'liips under their flag which may engage in tlic fur-seal fishery in violation of the Hcgulations. Such refusal is highly probable in view of the jcnloiisy which exists iis to the right of search on the high seas ; and the consequence must inevitably be tiiat, during the close season, scaling will go on under other Hags. It cannot bo the intention of the two Government', in signing the proposed Agreement, to arrive at sucii a result. I do not understand you to dispute that, should such a state of things arise, the Agreement must colhipsc, as the two Governments could not be expected to enforce on their respective nationals Regulations which are violated under foreign flags to the serious injury of the fishery. I iiope, therefore, that, on further consideration, the President will recognize the importance of arriving at some understanding of the kind suggested in my note of the 1st instaut. . (Signed) ' JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure 3 r'n No. 188. Mr. Blaine to Sir T. Pauncefote. Sir, Department of State, Washington, December 10, 1891 IN reply to your note of the 8th instant, I have the following observations to make : — 1. Ever since the Behring's Sea question has been in dispute (now nearly six years), not one ship from France or Germany has ever engaged in sealing. This affords a strong presumption that none will engage in it in the future. 2. A still stronger ground against their taking part is that they cannot afford it. From France or Germany to Behring's Sea by the sailinj^ lines is nearly 20,000 miles, and they would have to make the voyage with a larger ship than can be profitably emjdoycd in scaling. They would have to start from home the winter preceding the sealing Fcason and risk an unusually hazardous voyage. When tliey reach tlie fisliing grounds they have no territory to which they could resort for any purpose. 3. If we wait until we get France to agree that her ships shall be searclied by American or British cruizers we will wait until tlie last seal is taken in IBelning's Sea. Thus much for France and Germany. Otiier European countries li:;vc tlie same disabilities. Russia, cited by Lord Salisbury as likely to embarrass tiio United Slates and England by interference, I should regard as an ally, and not an enemy, Nor is it probable tiiat any American country will loan its flag to vessels engaged in violating the Behring's Sea Regulations. To stop the arbitration a whole niontii on a question of tliis chair.?tcr promises ill for its success. Some other less important question even than this, if it can be found, may probably be started. The effect can only be to exhaust tlie time allotted for arbitration. We must act mutually on what is probable, not on what is remotely possible. The President suggests again that the proper mode of proceeding is for Regulations to be agreed upon between the United States and Great Britain, and then submitted to the ])rincipal Maritime Powers. That is an intelligent and intelligible process. To stop now to consider the Regulations for outside nations is to indefinitely postpone the whole question. The President, therefore, adheres to his ground first announced, that we must have the arbitration as already agreed. He suggests to Lord Salisbury that any other process might make tlie arbitration impracticable within the time specified. I have, &o. (Signed) JAMES G. BLAINE. V m [ 8, 1891. note of the Arbitration No. 189. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Received December 19.) (Extract.) Washington, December 10, 1891. I HAVE the honour to inform your Lordship that, in alluding to the Behring's Sea question, the President's Message states that he is glad to be able to announce that [5721 S 2 189 terms of arbitration satisfactory to the United States' Government have been arrived at, and that an agreement as to tlie Arbitrators is all that is necessary to the completion of tlic Convention. He also adds that, " in view uf the advanced position which this Government has taken upon the subject of international arbitration, this renewed expression of our adiiercnce to this method tor the settlement of disputes such as have arisen in the Behring's Sea will, I doubt not, meet with the concurrence of Congress." No. 100. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury.— {Received December 19.) My Lord, Washington, December 11, 1801. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of to-day, I have the honour to inclose copy of a note which I have addressed to Mr. Ulaine in the sense of the second part of your Lordship's telegram of the 7th instant, offering to sign the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement and Joint Commission Article on the understanding mentioned in that telegram. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No. 100. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Blaine. Sir, Washington, December 11, 1801. I HAVE the honour to inform you *liat I telegraphed to the Marquis of Salisbury the substance of your note of yesterday respecting the Gth Article of the proposed Belirin<;'s Sea Arbitration Agreement, and that I have received a reply from his Lordship to the following effect : — In view of the strong opinion of the President, reiterated in your note of yesterday, that the danger apprehended by Lord Salisbury, and explained in my note of the 8lh instant, is too remote to justify the delay which might be incurred by guarding against it now, his Lordship will yield to the President's appeal, and not press for further discussion at this stage. Her Majesty's Government of course retain the right of raising the point when the question of framing the Regiilotions comes before the Arbitratora, and it is understood that the latter will have full discretion in the matter, ond may attach such conditions to the Regulations as they may a priori judge to be necessary and just to the two Powers, in view of the difficulty pointed out. With the above observation Lord Salisbury has authorized me to sign the text of the seven Articles and of the Joint Commission Articles referred to in my note of the 23rd ultimo, and it will give me much pleasure to wait upon you at the State Department for that purpose at any time that you may appoint I have, &c- (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 101. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (Received December 23.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, December 22, 1891. THK question of the number of Arbitrators was reopened to-day by Mr. Blaine. He stated that he was of opinion, as was also the President, that seven was too large a number, and that it would suffice, as three arc to be appointed by foreign Governments, if the United States and Great Britain should each appoint one. He was anxious that the above consideration should be urged on your Lordship, and he expressed the hope that efforts might be made to expedite as much as possible the remaining arrangements. n armed at, ompletion of n which this ,liis renewed lutes such as ncurrenee of 19.) T 11, 1891. ! the honour ! sense of the the Behring's jnderstanding SCEFOTE. er 11, 1891. s of Salisbury the proposed n his Lordship 3 of yesterday, note of the by guarding CSS for further )oint when the is understood conditions to e two Powers, ign the text of iiy note of the te Department NCEFOTE. T 23.) ler 22, 1891. Vlr. Blaine. seven was too ted by foreign one. He was dsbip, and he aa possible the 133 No. 192. Sir J. Pav,ncefote to the Marquia of Salisbury. — {Received December 28.) My Lord, Washington, December 15, 1891. WITH reference to my telegram of yesterday, I have the lionoiir to inclose copy of a note wiiich I have received from Mr. Blaine, in wliich he states that the President objects to your Lordship making any reservation at all in regard to the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement ; togctlicr with a copy of the reply which 1 liavc relumed thereto. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosuro 1 in No. 192. Mr. Blaine to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Department of State, Washintjlon, Decembet 14, 1891. I HAVE the honour to advise you that I submitted your note of tlie^llth instant to the President. After mature deliberation, he has instructed me to say tliat he objects to Lord Salisbury making any reservation at all, and that he cannot yield to him the right to appeal to the Arbitrators to decide any point not embraced in the Articles of Arbitration. The President docs not admit that Lord Salisbury can reserve the right in any way to affect the decision of the Arbitrators. Wo understand that the arbitration is to proceed on the seven points which are contained in the Articles which you and I certify were the very points agreed upon by the two Governments. For Lord Salisbury to claim the right. to submit this new point to the Arbitrators is to entirely change the arbitration. The President might, in like manner, submit several questions to the Arbitrators, and thus enlarge the subject to such an extent that it would not be the same arbitration to which we have agreed. The President claims the right to have the seven points arbitrated, and respectfully insists that J-ord Salisbury shall not cliangc their meaning in any particular. The matters to be arbitrated must be distinctly understood before the Arbitrators are chosen. And, after an arbitration is agreed to, neither of the parties can enlarge or contract its scope. I am prepared now, as I have been iieretofore, to sign the Articles of Agreement without any reservation whatever, and for that purpose 1 shall be glad to have you call nt the State Department on Wednesday, the IGth instant, at 11 o'clock A.M. I have, &c. (Signed) .JAMES G. BLAINE. Inclosure 2 in No. 192. ; ' ' ^ Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Blaine. Sir, Washington, December 15, 1891. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your note of yesterday's date, in reply to mine of the 11th instant, respecting the signature of the seven Articles of the proposed Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement therein referred to. I will transmit a copy of that reply to the Marquis of Salisbury by to-day's mail, but I beg to state that, pending his Lordship's further instructions, it is not in my power to proceed to the signature of the Articles in question, as proposed at the close of your note, I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFuTE. ii ■ .1 ll !llf i\ i ill 184 No. 103. Sir ./. Paunet/ote to the Marquiii of Saliabur}/, — {Recpived December 2H.) My Lord, Washington, Decemhrr IS, ISOl. IMMEDIATELY on receipt of your Lordship's tclejjrnm of the 10th instnnt I Aildrcssod A note to Mr. Blaine, of whicli I have tlio honour to incloac n copy, and I delivered it to him in person yesterday. After reading it, lie at once made nn appointment for this morniiip at 11 to sign the text of the seven Articles of the lioliring's Sea Arhitiation Agreement and of the Joint Oommission Agreement, as settled in the di|ilomatic correspondence. Accordingly, I proceeded to the State Department at the appointed time, and, after the usual verification, the document was signed in duplicate by Mr. iiiaine ami myself. I shall have the honour to transmit a copy of it to your Lordship by this mail in a •eparftte despatch, I hare, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNOEFOTE. IncIoBure in No. 193. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr, Blaine, Sir, Washington, December 17, .H'Jl. I HAVE the honour to inform you that I conveyed to the Marquis of Salisbury, by telegram, the substance of your note of the 14tli instant respecting the 6th Article of the proposed Beliring's Sea Arbitration Agreement, and that I have received n reply from his Lordship in the following sense. Lord Salisbury is afraid that, owing to the difficulties incident to telegraphic correspondence, he has been imperfectly understood by the President. He consented, at the President's request, to defer for the present all further discussion as to what course the two Govpir.mcnts stiould follow in the event of the Regulations prescribed by the Arbitrators being evaded by a change of ting. It was necessary that, in doing so, he should guard himself against the supposition, that by such consent he had nar; ved the rights of the contending parties or of the Arbitrators under the Agreemct. ''ut in the conmiunication which was embodied in my note of the llth in«tant, his ijoi siiip made no reservation, as the President seems to think, nor was any such word used. A reservation would not bo valid unless assented to by the other side, and no such assent was asked for. Lord Salisbury entirely agrees with the President in his obioction to any point being submitted to the Arbitrators which is not embraced in the Asi'ocnicnt, and, in conclusion, his Lordship authorizes mc to sign the Articles of the Arbitration Agreement, as proposed at the close of your note under reply, whenever you may be willing to do so. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. • ■. ■ - . . No. 194. ^ • . ' '• ■ ■■ Sir J, Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received December 28.) My Lord, '^ -rU' '. j • •. Washington, December 18, 1891. WITH reference to my immediately preceding despatch of to-day, I liave the honour to inclose herewith the text of the seven Articles of the Behring's Sea Arbitration Agreement and of the Joint Commission Article, as signed by Mr. Blaine and myself. I have, &c. ' (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. , r>*'-'V* V***!. ^.tkf 185 19, l!?91. til instnnt I copy, ftiid I I to siRii the of tlic Joint e. and, aftor ml myself. UH mail in a OEPOTB. rl7, H'Jl. Salisbury, by }th Article of 1 a reply from telegraphic conHcnteu, at to what course scribed by the 1 doin;^ so, be had nnr; '^ed ccnict. ''lit , his ijor 'Sliip .ord used. A 10 such assent objection to c Asi'ccmcnt, he Arbitration r you may be ifCEFOTE. 28.) er 18, 1891. I have the ea Arbitration and myself. NCEFOTE. Inclosuro in No. 194. Text of Articles for insertion in the Bfhring'e Sen Arbitration Affreemi-tit «» settled in the Diplomatic Correspondence between the Oovernment of Great Uritain and the Government of the United States. I. WHAT exclusive jurisdiction in the sea, now known as the Behrinx's 8oa, and what exclusive rights in the seal fisheries therein, did Russia assert and exercise prior and up to the time of the cession of A'aska to the United Slates P 11. How far wore these claims of Jurisdiction as to tho seal fisheries recognized and conceded by Great Britain ? III. Was the body of water, now known as the Behring's Sea, included in the phrase " Pacific Ocean," as used in the 'I'reaty of 1825 between Grcot Britain and Russia; and what rin^hts, if any, in tho Behring's Sea, were held and exclusively exercised by Russia after said Treaty ? IV. Did not all the rights of Russia as to jurisdiction, and as to the seal flsheriei i i Behring's Sea cast of the water boundary, in the Treaty between the United States and Russia of the 30th March, 18G7, pass unimpaired to the United States [under toat Treaty? ■ "" '■■ ■■'• " f. ■""■"■■" ■' ■■•••■'■•^■"*""' Ilns the Up'.V.I States any right, and, if so, what right of protection or punerty in the fur-sciils frc(|uenting the islands of the United States in I3uhring's Sea when su'.-h seals arc found outside the ordinary three-mile limit ? VI. If the determination of the foregoing questions as to the exclusive ju'isdiciion of the United States shall leave the subject in such position that the concurrence of Great Britain is necessary to the establishment of Regulations for the proper protection and preservation of the fur-seal in, or habitually resorting to, the Behring's Sea, the Arbitrators shall then determine what concurrent Regulations outside the jurisdictional limits of the respective Governments arc necessary, and over what waters such Regula- tions should extend, and, to aid them in that determination, the Report of a Joint Commission, to be appointed by the respective Governments, shall be laid before them, •»ith such other evidence as cithor Government may submit. The Contracting Powers fnrtberniorc agree to co-operate in securing the adhesion of other Powers to such Regulations. , . ; VII. The respective Governments having found themselves unable to agree upon a reference which shall include the question of the liability of each for the injuries alleged to have been sustained by the other, or by its cilizens, in C(mnection with the claims presented and urged by it -, and, being solicitous that this subordinate question should not interrupt or longer delay the submission and determination of the main questions, do agree that either may submit to the Arbitrators any question of fact involved in said claims and ask for a finding thereon, the question of the liability of either Government upon the facts found to be the subject of further negotiation. (Signed) JAMES G. BLAINE. JULIAN PAUNCEFOTB. December 18,1(91. 1,^ i|t»! I IT'' 1 1 , f " Text of the l}fhrin</g Sea <oiut Commmion Aijtfpment an selthd in the Dipi^matic dnrrrspondenee between 'he Government of ^ircnt lirilnin and the Government of the United IStatet. Knoh (lovt-rnmcnt nlinll npiiolnl (wo ComtniHiiioiicrM t«» invcBlifrntp eonjoliitly wUli Ihc (lomniiHsiotn'iM ol' (lie oilier (iovoniinci'.t nil Uio I'mcIh Imvinpr lolntinn to scnl lifo in HclnitiR's Won, nntt Iho mpnuurcM nci'c.xHHi y lor ilw proper prolcclioii niitl prcHorvntion. The four OoininiBHionprN hIiiUI, ho fnr hh Mioy inn y lie iililo (o n^roc, timkc n joint, Uqiort to oRcl) of (lie two Oovoriinx tils, nn<l llioy Hlmll ul«o roport, eitlitr jointly or Bcrcrally, to cnoh Oovcrnniont on niiy iioinls upon «liieli ttioy tmy bo unublo to nRrcc. TliV«c Reports Hl:nll not lie mntle pulilie until tliey nhnli lie miltmitted to the Arbilrntors, ov it Hhnll nppenr (hnt tlic eonti«K«"<'.v "' '•'«^i«' l»*^'iiig used by tho Arbitrutors caniiot nriHc. (Signe.!) .U?LI/\N PAUNCKK0T15. JAMKH G. liLAlNK. December lf», 1^01. "■ :: ■ ■;■ : ' '■' ^ "■■■" No. 105. ,, ■■■ ' ' : ■-; The Afrtrqnis of Salishuru to Sir J. Prtuucefrf* ^Tele^ranhic.) ' h'oreiyn OJfii:e, December I'U, 181H. YOlIK fclojrrnm of the i!2nd iimtant. You hIiouM nuiko it olo'ir to Mr. Hlaino tlmk Hor iMttjysly'H Government urge the ai>)>ointn)onl oI'hovcii ArbitnitorH. i\o. 11)0. , . The Marquis of Siilishury to Sir J. Pnuneefate. I'oreiijn Offiie. Dnvember l\0, 18111 !^,,. :v (.'IVlejj.npliic") I'-KiilUNG'S SKA. i h;\\v been iktiketl by Sir (' Ibiiien-Vovvoll to nHoortnin wliotlicr nny date can be lixed lor the nieeliui;: of tlie .fdint Coiumission. He i.v ret>'iy to slni I on ibc (Uh .lauiiary it' ueooHsnry, ' • No. 197. iSfV ./. Ptmncffote to I he Marquis of Salisbury.- — (liereived January t.) (Teleij'niphie.l Washhujton, January 2, 1892. Wiril velVivniv io your liordsbips telei?rarii ul' (b(> .'iOl'i ultimo, rcliitivo to the H<'lnMU}r's Seji .loint ^'omn^i^;■^u>u, .Mr. Hlniiii^ li;is no objeetion to its meetiufif nt the ejirliesl dnte wbieli nmy be ju'nnitted bv (be ollior publio duties ot tlie Ameiienii Conin>i'-.siot\ers. What that d.ito will bo bo ^u»»h s ti» bo in a jiosition to inform mi on the ttb iustiint. No. 19S, bic ./. Paur.cefote to the Marquis of Sa'isbury. — {Peceivtd January 4, 1802.) yU U^xd, Washinqlon, December 23, 181)1. I H.WK the honour to iiulose herewith (""ensufi Bulletin No. \2-) relative to the fisiiinjj induMtiy of the United States eonuectcd with nuuiuo tnamnialia.* Tilt luwiiiess [uiisucd by the Alaska Commercial Coinpany is not given in the Report. Kxcbisiie of the operations of this Company, it appears that the eapitnl inveslcti in the luv-soal and sen-otter lishery in 18M) wis \[y.',7Ci7 dollars; the value »)f the produets landed in the same industry was 124,083 dollars; the number • Not priuUil j:H. 187 rnniftit of the injoliilly with OBOol lii'o in iHcrvntion. nmkc a joint lior jointly or ilo to nRicc, littod to tlio 10 Aibitmlors A INK. er '2\), 1801. ment >irgo tlic tiny (late c«n ry k) uary 2, 1892. no," relativn to its iiici'tinK at t tho Anu'i'ii-ai\ ) inronu nu on 4, 1802.) nhcr 23, 18i)l. (1. 12:5 reiativt iiatnnuilia.* not gi\en in the lull tlic capital (avs; Hie vulno s; the nnnibrr of pfraonN eiigii :;;»•( I, 4'2.'. Of the rnr-Hf/il and oticr (loot, 11 vosboIm hnilfd from Snn KiuneiHco, 7 IVom Port '{'ownftrnd, Washington; 1 from Santa Har^ -a, Calirornia ; anti 1 fVom Sah-ni, Mnp.narhimrtlH. or thp empU)V<''H, 2H.'i wrro nutivcH of the Unilrd States, of Cnrnda, 18 of Qroat Ki'itain, 'M ol' .lapnn, and .M ol' Norway and Sweden. The number uF the fnr-ncal gkinn tulten wan 228, 228. J have, &<'. (Sif^nod) JUJilAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 10!>. Sir J, Paunce/ote to the Martjuis of iSalwbuTy.—^ller.mwd January 4.) (Telpprnpliic.) Washington,' January 4>, 1802. Wiril refcrcnec to my trlogram (tf tlin 2iid inHtaiit, I have the honour to state tliat I was Inl'ormed to-day by Mr. Ilhiine that the President ennnotl^eonsent to the nicrting ul' tiie .luint CommisHion uotil <i definite settlement has i)een{arrived at as to the remaining; details of the Arbitration Agreement, which formed the subject of my telegram of the 2nd instant. No. 200. •'••/; ./, I'avnrr/otc to thr Manjiiis of Salinbuiy. — (Ihcaivcd January I '3.) ('r«'l('L;inphi<'.) Hanhington, January ].'{, 185)2. I IIAVK iho honour (o infoini your l.drdKJiip (hat iVlr. Mlaiiie is now immt anxiuiM I'l,; (lie unnu'diale niceting of the .Joint ('onimisHiori, and begs that iiiNl ructions nuiy be ^ent to the two Hiitish ( onimi.-^RionerH l(» proceed with as lifth; delay as iitmsible lo Washington, which, in his opinion, taking all Hie circumstances !!><(» consideration, is the most convenient place wf meeting. I should be glad to bo informed whether Sii* George Ijaden-Poweil has left for America. No. 201. .S'l'r ./. Paunce/ote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received January 14.) (ToleiL'rnj)hic.) Wanhinyton, January U, 1692. HKIIIUNtJ'S SK.A Joint Commission. 1 think it of the greatest importance that .Sir (i. Maden-Poweli and Dr. Dawson should be authorized to procerri to Washington at once. I will telegraph to l^ird Stanley, begging him to request the latter gentleman to hold him- self in readiness to start. No. 202. Foreign Office la Sir G. Baden-Powell. Sir, Foreign Office, January H, 1892. I .\M directed by the Marquis of Salisbury to inform you thatSir J. Pauncefote has rei)orte{l, by telegraph, that the United States' Government arc now anxious that the Joint Commission should commence its sittings at once. It is therelorc (Icsirnblc that you should proceed lo Washington as soon as you conveniently can. I am, &c. (Signed) T. V. LTSTEE. I %'\ w [«731 t rasB 138 '] ! ¥ No. 203. Thr Marquis of Salisbury to t/ic Behring's Sen Commissioners. Gentlemen. ['ordi/n Of/irr, Jainidri/ 15, T^OU. I HAVK to inl'orm yoii that iter Majesty's Minislor at Wasiiiiif^tou lias sent home tlie text of seven Articles, sij^neil by liimselt' and Mr. Blaine on the 18th ultimo, which are to be embodied in ai'ormal As;rcenient between IIiu' Majesty's Government and that of the United States lor referring" to Arl)itrators certain questions at issue between the two Governments in regard to the jurisdiction claimed by the latter over the waters of Behiing's Sea in connection with the fur-seal fisheries therein. Sir J. Pauncefote has also forwarded the text of an Agreement signed on the same day for the appointment of two Commissioners l)y ilcr Majesty's Government and tiuit of the United States respectively, to investigate, conjointly with the Commisaicjners of the other Government, all the facts relating to. seal life in Behring-'s Sea, and (lie necessary measures for its proper protection and preservation. A copy of Sir J. raiincefote'a despatch, inclosing both these documents, is forwarded hciewith for your information.* I now transmit the Queen's Commission under the Sign Manual appointing you to be Her Majesty's Commissioners in accordance with the provisions of the .Joint Commission .Agreement, and 1 request that you uill proceed to Wiishingtou as soon as you c:in conveniently do so, in order to draw np the Report indicated in the second paragrajih of the Agreement. The inl'ormation which has been obtained by your American colleagues and yourselves during your recent visit to Behring's Sea will supply you with material for the preparation of your Report. There are. however, a few points to which Her Majesty's Government consider it desirable that your special atteniion should he directed. Y(/ii will o'jserve that it is intended that the Report of the Joint Commissioners shall embrace recommendations as to all measures that should be adopted for the preservation of seal life. For this purpose, it will be necessary to consider what Regulations may seem advisable, whether within the jurisdictioi\al limits of the United States and Canada, or outside those limits. The Regulations wiiirh the Commissioners may recommend for adoption within the res])eetive jurisdictions. of the two countries will, of course, be matter tor the cons.ideration of the respective Governments, while the Regulations atlecting waters outside the territorial limits will have to be considered under clause (5 of the .\rbitration Agiecment in the event of a decision being given by the .Arbitrators against the claim of exclusive jurisdic- tion |uit forward on behalf of the United States. The Heport is to be presented in the first in-tance to the two Governments for theii consideration, and is subsequently to be laid by those Governments before the Arbitrators to assist them in determining the moic restricted (]ueslioii as to what, if any. Regulations are essential for the protection of the fur-bearing seals outside the territorial jurisdiction of the two countries. In the event of any jioints arising on which the Commissioners are unable to arrive at an understanding, they should re|)ort jointly or severally to each Govern- ment on such priints. In conclusion, I have to state that Her Majesty's Government place every reliance on your tact and discretion in the conduct ol your investigations with your American colleagues, who will, no doubl, lie equally desirous witli yourselves of arriving at a common agreement on the (piestions to be discussed. I am, &e. (Signed) SALISBURY. No, 204. Sir G. Baden-Powell to the Marquis of Salidiurij. — {Reccired Fehruary 1.) ' (Telegraphic.) Washington, Fehruary 1, 1892. ARRIVED Washington with Dawson 3tsL January. • No. IS4. m 189 ! f 3, lsi)2. i lias sent 3 on the Majesty's rs certain irisdiction with the 10(1 on tiic ov eminent Willi the oul life in escrvation. iiments, is minting; you if tlie Joint hinn-ton as ■alccl in the cngues and th material ant consider mmissioners ited for the iiisiiler what iiuits of tiio s wiiich the iirisdictiouf. ic respective torial limits ill the event ive jurisdic- irnments for ts before tlic IS to what, if outside the Ire unable to icli Gf)vern- I place every IS with your Yourselves ISBUllY. jrj/ 1, 1892. No. 205. Sir J. Paunccfoti' to the Marquis of Salisburtj, — {Received February 1.) (Tcl(';,'rapliie.) Waslmigton, February 1, 1892. I IIAVK the honour to inform your Lordship that Sir George Baden- Powell and Dr. Dawuon have arrived here. ( called with them to-day on Mr. Blaine, who promised that the place and time of meeting- of the Joint Commission should be arranged at once. No. 206. Sir J, Pauncefole to the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Received February 7.) My Lord, Washington, January 29, 1892. I HAVE the honour to inclose herewith copy of a note which I .addressed to Mr. Blaine, informing him of t!ie accept;ince by Her Majesty's Ciovernment of his jiroposal that the B-jJiring's Wea foreign Arbitrators shall be chosen by Prance, Italy, and Sweden. I have, &c, (Signed) .JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosurc in No. 20G. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Blaine. Sir, Washington, January 21, 1892. I HAVR the honour to inform you that immediately atter my interview with you on the Ifjth instant in regard to the question of the countries who are to name the .Arbitrators in the Behring's Sea controversy, I telegraphed to the Marquis of Salisbury that you did not insist on the knowledge of English by the Arbitrators as a condition, but merely as a desirable cpialification. I ha\e now received a telegram from his Lordship, stating that Her Majesty's Government acce|)t your proposal that the Arbitrators shall be chosen by France, Italy, and Sweden. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEEOTE. No. 207. Sir J, Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Received February 8.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, February 8, 1892. I FORWARDED, by hag, on the .Ith instant, for your Lordship's approval, a draft Behring's Sea Arbitration Convention which lias been proposed by Mr. Blaine. The Joint Commission is endi'ulied in it, and Mr. Blaine insists that the proceedings of the Joint Commissioners shall he informal until it is signed. Afier much delay, they meet to-day for tiie first time. A modus vivendi during the next (ishery season is pressed for by Mr. Blaine, and he hopes that Her Majesty's Government will be prepared to put into force any Regulations which may be recommended by the Joint ("ommission for immediate application. No. 208. Behring's Sea Commissioners to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Received February 10.) (Telegraphic.) Washiiglon, February 0, 1892. WK beg to report, for your Lordship's information, that we have commenced to hold meetings of an informal nature with the American Commissioners, clearing the ground where possible, but until tiie .\rbitration Convention is signed we have [572] ' T 2 i '\\ ^n i ,4 js ■ «WWf' 140 decided llint it is not oxpedicnt to commonco tbrmat work, or exiiibit any of the con- clusions nt which wo have arrived. No. 20J). Colonial Offica to Foreign Office. — {Received Behruari/ 10.) (Hxtiiio(.'| Downing Street, February 10. 1892. I AM (liioclod I)y Lord Knutsford to ncitnowledpfc tlic rocci|)t of }oiir loiter of the flth inHtaiit, indoHiiip parnjthraso of ft tolcffnuu from Her MnjcHty's Minister at Witaliinglon respecting the Heluing'rt Soft negotiations. Tiord Kiiutsford dodircs mo to Htntc that he thinks it deHirahlo, if tiio Miirquis of Sftlisbnry sees no objection, to consult the Caniulian Oovernment as to the jjroposals for ft renewal of the modtin vivendi, and the enforcement of such llegulations fts the Joint Commission may recomn»cnd for immediate apidication. No. 210. The Behrimfs Sea Commissioners to the Marquis of Salisbury. — (lieceived Februnri/ 1 1 .) My Lonl. Ottawa, Janunry 2'.», I8i>2. WK have the honour to acknowlodge the receipt of your Lordship's (les|)atoli of the l.'itli instant, inolosiu};- the l^uoen's Commission under the Hif;n Manual appointin" us to l)o II(>r Majesty's Comiuissionors in accordaiuM! witii the provisions of the Joint (.'onimission Ai;recn>ont of the 18th !)ocend)er, 1HS)1, hetween Her Miijosty's (lovornmont and tiuit of" tiie United States. We are not aware whotlicr tin; United States' Commissioners have as yet been appointed, but \vc were intormcd on the 'iSth instant by Sir Julian I'auncofote that Rlr. Hlaine agrees to the meeting; of the Joint Commission on tiie Ist Kebrnary. We are therefore proceodiu};!; at once to Washington, where we will endeavour to the best of our ability to carry out the instructions embodied in your Lordship's despatch under acknowledgment. We have, &c. (Signed) (5E011GE BADEN-POWELL. QEOllGE M. DAWSON. No. 211. The liehring's Sra Commissioners to the ^farquis of Sali^ibury. — {Received February 1 1.) My Lord, Washington, February 1, 18!)2. WK h.ive the honour to report that we arrived hero on the evening of Sunday, the 31st January. We called on Sir Julian Pauncefotc the same evening, and he courteously arranged for an interview with the Secretary of State on Monday, the 1st February. This morning Sir J. Paunccfoti formally introduced us to Mr. Blaine, who told us that he would at once make the necessary arrangements for us to meet our fellow Commissioners, but he did not anticipate that a meeting could take place before Wednesday, the 3rd instant. We took the opportunity of explaining that we were fully prepared to commence work to-day. "We have, &c. (Signed) GEORGE BADEN-POWELL. GEORGE M. DAWSON. of tlio con- 10. 1892. loiter «)t' the Minister at the Marquis Lho j)roi)OHal8 as tl>o Joint •''ehnuirji \ I .) ,/ 2'J, IBV>2. ip's (Icispatcli rtii>n Maniiixl ho provisions betsveon Her ,c as yet '>w» iiiicelole that i'cbri\ary. will endeavDiir )ur Lordsliip's .rOWKLL. (VSON. February U.) uary 1, ISO^J- ing of Sunday, 10 courteously 5 Ist Fcl)ruarv. Ilaine, who told IS to meet our uld talic place ed to commence N-POWELL. .WSON. 141 No. 212. Sir J. Pauncefoh' to the Murquiii of Salkburij. — {Received February 15.) (Extnu^t.) ■ * Waithinglon,Fehrvary^,\m'2,. AH 1 had tlio honour to report iti my doHpatch of the 'J!»tli idtimo, I informed Mr. HIaine, in a note dated the 'ilst ultimo, that ller Majesty's (loveriiment had accepted his proposal, that the tliree foreign mcnil)er.s of the Hehring's Sea Arbitration Trihunal shonid be eliosen by Kranee, ludy, an<l Sweden. On the iJOlh ultimo, not haviiif!; received iiny t'urther eommunieation from Mr. Blaine on the subject. I addresseil a note to him (of which a copy is inclosed), inquirin^r wiuither he was now preparcij in pr.Kccd .-ii once to the pr(!i)aration and signature of the Arbitration Convciiioii. On the i'nd instant Mr. liiaiiu; invited me to call on him, wIiimi he placed in my lian<ls the draft of a Convenlinn which he re(piesled nic to (jxamine, .ind which is based on the Arbitration Articles of the Ticaly of \Vashinf;lon, jind incorpoi'ates the Articles ;dready signed, and also the .Joint ("ominission Af;reement. It was arriuificd that I should ■;(> over the draft the followin}; day with Mr. Alvey A. Adee (.Second Assistant Secretary of State), by whom it hail been |)rc|)aied, so that it should be put into such a form as J should approver before submitting it to your Lordship, I accordingly had several interviews with Mr. Adee, at which I suggested vjirious alterations which were .ulopted, and I nov/ have the honour to inclose a copy of the draft, as amended, for your liOrdshi[)'s consideriition.* The reason assigned for including iIk; Joint ('onimission Agreement in the Aibitration Convention is that, as it. entails an expenditure of public money, it must be laid before th(! Senate, as well as the Arbitration ConvtMition, and it is more convenient that the whole arrangement should be comprised in the same instru- ment. If your [iOrdshiji should approve substantially of the draft, Mr. IJIaine suggests that it would save a great deal of tinu^ if I were instructed, by telegraph, to sign the Convention (with siu-h nuxlilicatioiis as your Lordship may desire) nunc, pro tunc, and without awaiting the arrival of my full powers, which can be communicated later on. Inclosuro in No. 212. Sir J. Paunr.pfole to Mr. Blninc. Sir, Wash ing ton, January 30, 1802. ALL the details of the Hehring's Sea Arbitration having now been linally settled uy the understanding arrived at as to the Clovermnents who shall be invited to select tiic th;ee foreign Arbitrators, I have the honour to request you to be good enough to inform me whether you are preparcfl to proceed at oiue to the prepara- tion and signature of the formal Aibitnitiou Convention and of the .loint Conuuission Agreement, in accordance witli the text of the Articles to be inserted therein, whii h was signed by us on the I&th December last. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN I'AUNCEFOTE. No. 213. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received February 15.) My Lord, Washington, February 5, 1892. AT the interview which I had with Mr. Ulaine on the subject of the draft Arbitration Convention transmitted in my previous despatch of this date, he strongly pressed upon me the importance of being prepareil to put in force during the next * For Convention at signed, >ee No. 346 . ' 1 If I 1 I Ii r :| 149 fishery aoason in Rchring'N Sen hucIi I{c(;iilnli()im .ih nii^ht In* rocoinniondcd by tho Joint CummiHsioii whicii ih about to coniiiHMicc its Killings in \V.'isliiii<;l()ii. Mo observed that it was now (juilc certain (hat (he arbilralion would not be concludc<l for many months, and no lime, thcrcl'ore, siionld bo lost in devising another modus viveiidi, to lake eHoot Irom tho ox|)iraliou of tho I'rcscnt one. In answer to his in(|uiry as to the |iowor ol' IIct iMiijcsty's (iovornmont to put in force any Regulations which ini}>;ht temporarily be .if;rce(l upon, I stated that lor such purpose it would be necessary to have recourse af;ain to I'arli.inient. lie then re(|uested me to invite \</ur Lordship's immediate attention to (he imporlunee of takin<; immediate powers lor that purpose, as llii; s(;aling lleots wero already reporteil to be clearing out, I have, &e. (Sif,'ned) JULIAN I'AUNCEFOTE. No. 21 t. T/ii' Marquis of !<<illslnirii to Sir .J. I'initircfolf, (Telon;rnpbie.) /■"-.) r/,/H O/Urr, I'Vhntnty K!, 1802. TIIK draft Convention, inclosed in your despjitch of the .""jth instant, for referring' to arbitration the (piestions at issue between Iler Majesty's (Jovernment and that of the United States in eonnei'tion with I he seal iisheries in Hehring's Sea, has been relerred to the liuw Odieers of the Crown, who have been asked to liirnish a Report on its terms at their earliest convenience. Iler Majesty's (Jovernment cannot ex|)ress an opinion upon Mr. Hl.nine's proposal for a fresh modus rirt'ndi during the present year until tiiey are further informed as to what the provisions of the modus vircndi Jiie to be. It (iocs not seem to be at all necessary for the preservation of tho fur-seal species that sealing should be entirely prohibited. No. 215. Sir J. Pauncefote to the ^farquis of SSalisburij. — (lieceivcd February 18.) (Telegrapliic.) Witsh.ntjtou, February 17, 1892. \\ ITU ict'orence to your I.ordsliip's telep;ram of the 1 0th instant, Mr Ulaine presses that the <|ucstion of the modus rivemli should be considered iind rcjiurted on by the .Joint Commission. 1 have informed him that, in my oj)inion, it has no power to do sounder its present mandate. Will your Lordshi]) iid'oriu ine whether you are willing that the ncecssary authority shall he given to the Comnnssion, provided that no obligations will be imposed upon cither Government by its report ? B No. 21(1. The itnrquii if Salisbury to Sir J. Pmiuccfolr. (Telegraphic.) Forcii/u Oflicc. luhuury IS, 1802. HER Majesty's (jovernment have had under their consi<ieration Mr. Jilaine's proposal, reported in your telegram of yesterday, that tho Joint Commission should examine and report on the (piestion of arranging a fresh modus virrudi during the next seal-lishing season in Ik'iiriiig's Sea. Thev have no objection to its being considered by tiie Commission whether, in case the decision of the Arbitrators is not obtained before .June on the points to be submitted to them, any modus vivciidi will be necessary, an<l, in that ease, what should be its provisions. Her Majesty's Government must, however, reserve absolntely their right of action in respect to any recommendations that may be made by the Commis- sioners. In the present state of Parliamentary business, it seems unlikely that it would be possible to obtain any fresh powers from Parliament, I by tho 1 not be devising ul lo put 1 tliiil lor )n U) Ibc uols wcio irOTE. 1(1. iHn2. istiint. lor iovornniont ;vii\fj,'« Si'ii, I to I'lirnisli Ir. Jilainc's arc i'uitlier OS not scM-m ilint;- sliniild L8.) ,17, 1892. llrtine jiri'sses liy tlic Joint Ij Ml under its [ing thut the itions will bo I, IS, 185)2. iMi. Ultiiiic's I Commission Ircudi (luring uiicllier, in Ipoinls to be case, what iicir riglit of llic Commis- lliat it would 14fr in (oroo, but it only gives xiiicii within limits and for "The Seal Fishery (Behring's Sea) Act, 1H<)1," is sli power to prohibit seeding in IJchring's Sea by Order in C( a period lo bo H|)ecilied in the Oriicr ils(dr. You should coinmnnicul(; to the ('anaclian (iOverruuent the subslunce of your tclegrnm ol the ITtii instant, and of my reply. (Toleufrn])hie.) No. 217. The .\far(iuia of Halishiiry In Sir J. Pauncnfole. Fordijn OJfice, February 20, 1 802. IIKIl Majesty's (iovernment have had under tiieir consideration the draft of a Convention, lorwnrded with your despatch of the 4tli instant, for arbitration on th(> (|in's(ion of the seal llsli<'ri(!s in llehrin^'s Sea. 'I'licy are prepared to accept it, subject to certain amendments which I liavc telegraphed to you. No, 218. Tim livliriiKj's Sat Commissioners lo the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received February 2.').) My l-ord, Arlinglon Hotel, Washington, February \9, 1892. IN continuation of our dcspiiteli of the 1st instant, we have the honour to report that after informing the Sccrctaiy of State of our readiness to eoannencc work on the .loint Coinniission on the 1st l''el)ruin'y we received no further intimation as to our conferences nntil Sir .Inliiui I'auncefote connnunicatcd to us the iidbrmation that in letters dated tlie Uli and Hth I'Vhruary iMr. HIaine hud |i(iintc(l out to him that wu could not |)ro> cced olHciidly to fh(; diseiiiiij^e of our duties or forniulute our Reports until the Arhitratioa Convention was sisjined, hut that he would inter|)ose no objection to our holding preliminary and inlbrmal conferenees. 2. On the 8th Fchruary we accordingly held our first preliminary conference, and much pre]);u'rttory work was got through. It was then arranged to hold a second con- ference on the 1 Ith instant. 'A. The decision on Mr. IJInine's suggestion that, pending the signature of the Arbi- tration Convention, the meetings of the .Joint C^onunission were to be informal, we com- municated to your Lordsiiip on the Otli instant, in a telegram of which a paraphrase is inclosed herewith. 1. On the loth I'Y'bruary, however, Sir J. Panneefotc received and communicated to us a further letter from tiie Sccretai'y of Stult', diitcd the previous day, in which .Mr. lilaine unexpectedly took up (piite a new position, stating thiit the United States' Commissioners bad now hecn instructed to make known to ns their reaiMncss formally to arrange for a joint eonlcrencc, and pro'jccd without turther delay to the discharge of the duties assigned to them. [), We ventured (o suggest to Sir .Julian I'auncefote that in view of the strong opinion ''Xpressed hy Mr. HIaine in his letters of the '1th and Gtli February it might be well if notes wt'c exchanged between the two Govcrin.icnts, deeli\i'ing that all work and conferen''es of the Icint C!omniission undertaken before the signing of the Arbitration Convention would be regardcMl b\ them as formal and eliicient in character. t>, (Jn Tlinrsday, the 1 llh instant, after consultation with Sir .1. Pauncefotc, we held the second eonl'erence, at which we conununicated our respective powers, and decided to regard that and future meetings ns formal pending the signing of the Arbitration Con- vention, and on the understanding that the respective Governments have so detcrnn'ned. 7. \\c have now decided to meet de die in diem, and there seems to be every prospect of our |)rogressing well with our work. 8. The United States' (iovernment have very courteously provided accommodation for our conferences in rooms at the State Department. We have, &c. (Signed) GEORGE BADEN-POWELL. GEOIWE M, DAWSON. -■— .» , H' I ■f. ,1 i -fm ; ;, \ ' " ';f I 144 No. 215). Lord Stnnlei/ of Pretlon to Lord Kmit^ford* — {Uecciced February 24.) Crcleijraphic.) Ottawa, February 23, 1892. WITH refeivnco to jour telograni of the Kitli instant rcspoctinp tho modus vivendi in Bcliring's Sea, my Ministers do not possess any information to show that a modus vivnidi is necessary, or that it can he reasonably demanded. li', however, such information has reached Her Majesty's GovernmcMit, the Government of the Dominion uonld not op))()e(< such a modus viteiidi provided that it were confined to a zone of moderate limits, say, 25 miles, around the seal islands, and provided that it is accoini)anied hy string(>nt restrictions aufainst the killing of seals on land, Avith hetter supervision than during the modus vivendi of last year. Any arrangement of a more extended character would involve compensation to the scaling-vessels, and for this, of c()urs(>, Canada could jiot he (>xpeeted to make provision from the funds of the Dominion. No. 220. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received February 25.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, February 25, 1892. BEHHING'S SEA modus vivendi. With reference to your Lordship's telegram of the 16th instant, 1 have informed Mr. Blaine that your Lordship could not give an opinion until you learned wiiat modus vivendi was proposed. Following is the suhstance of a note which I have received in reply : — The arbitration cannot possibly be concluded within the period of time which was contemplated originally. The delays which have occurred have been much more by Great Thitiiin than by the United States. The President suggests that the modus should be similar in terms to that of last year, but that it should be more fully executed. More efficient measures on the part of Her Majesty's Government will be practicable this year owing to the earlier date. More seals than ever were taken last year, the departure of the sealing-vcssels having taken place pre- vious to the agreement as to the modus vivendi. The j)revention of sealing in the North Pacific Ocean would be the most efl'ective measure for Uer Majesty's Government to adopt. The large number of sealers preparing to go forth from British Columbia would have to receive notice of this. The number of sealers is reported to be larger than ever, and without regulations there will be an immense destruction of females heavy with young. Mr. Blaine urgently requests me to send the contents of the note to your Lordship by telegraph. 1 have not yet mentioned the question of authorizing the Joint Commission to report on the modus vivendi on the conditions mentioned in your Lordship's telegram of the 18th instant. 1: No. 221. Sir J. Pauncefc lO the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Received February 26.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, February 26, 1892. AIY telegram of yesterday. Mr. Blaine specially desires me to telegraph to your Lordship verbatim the following paragraph contained in his note of the 24th instant respecting the modus vivendi; — " Molding an arbitration in regard to tho rightful mode of taking seals, while their destruction goes forward, would bu as if while an arbitration to the title to timber-land were in progress, one party were to cut remove all the trees." He attaches much importance to this illustration. No. 222. Sir ./. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received February 27.) ( Pelegraphic.) Washington, February 26, 1892. WITH reference to your Lordship's telegram of the 25th instant, the opinion of the British Behring's Sea Commissioners as to a modus vivendi may be convenient to your liordsbip at this juncture. They report as follows : — ' Repeated to Sir J. Pauncefote. J4.) ,23,1892. modus Vivendi that a modus owovor, such :h(? Domiuion to a zono of hI that it is (l, with hotter ■^(!ment of a ;ssels, and i'or > funds of the U6 " We do not apprehend any danger of serious further depiction of the fur-seal resort, ing to the Piibyloff Islands, as the result of hunting; tills year, unless excessive killing be permitted on the breeding islands. As a judicious temporary measure of precaution, how- ever, for this season, and looking to permanent regulations fur the Ashery as a whole being eslablished in time for the seuson of 1893, we would recommend the prohibition of all killing ut sen during this senson, witliin a zone extending to, say, not more than 30 nautical miles around the Pribylofl' Islands, such prohibition being conditional on the restiiction to a number not to exceed 30,000 as a maximum of the seals killed for any purpose on the islunds." I believe that the necessity for the total cessation of pelagic sealing will be insisted on by the American Commissioners, if the qucslion be referred to the Joint Commission; but I submit that it is not necessary lor us to go beyond the opinion of our own experts, pending arbitration. No. 223. 3,26.) try 25, 1892. [ have informed ed what modus time which was I more by Great that of last year, Lhe part of Her ite. More seals taken place pre- ig in the North Government to Columbia would larger than ever, leavy with young, your Lordship by it Commission to lip's telegram of .ary 26.) ■uary 26, 1892. aim the following Vivendi .' — seals, while their le to timber-land nary 27.) bruary 26, 1892. the opinion of the ;onvenient to your The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, February 27, 1892. HER Majesty's Government have bad under their consideration your telegrams of the 2.5th and 2(ith instant, dealing with the question of the modus vivendi proposed by Mr. Blaine for the approaching seal-hunting season. They cannot admit in any degree the correctness of Mr. Blaine's statement that there have been greater delays on the part of this country in the negotiations for settling the Behring's Sea difficulty than there have been on that of the United States. The consent of Her Majesty's Government was given last year to a modus vivendi solely on the ground that the preservation of the seal species in those waters was supposed to be endangered unless some interval were given duritig which there would be a cessation of hunting both on land and sea. So information has reached Her Majesty's Government to lead them to suppose that so drastic a measure is requisite for two successive seasons. Indeed, they are informed by the British members of the Joint Commission now sitting at Washington that there is no danger, so (ar as the sea fishery is concerned, of any serious diminution of the numbers of the fur-seal species as a consequence of hunting them during the approaching season. You are, however, authorized to offer to the Government of the United States the compromise suggested by the British Commissioners, and reported in your telegram of the 2bth instant, viz., that during the present year the killing of seals ut sea should be prohibited witiiin a given radius not exceeding cO nautical miles round the Prd)yloff Islands on condition thiit the number of seals to be killed for any purpose on the islands shall be restricted to a definite amount, not exceeding 30,000 at the utmost. A speedy decision is necessary, as we are informed that the sealing vessels are already leaving port. Mr. Blaine's comparison of the present situation to a question of ownership of timber land does not appear to mc to be applicable. The case msembles rather an arbitration on the title to a meadow. While the arbitration is pending the party in actual possession cuts the grass, and tightly so, inasmuch as next year the grass will be reproduced. This will equally be the case with the seals. , 'So. 224, Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury.— {Received February 28.) (Telegraphic) Washington, February 26, 1892. i AM requested by Mr. Blaine to inform your Lordship that ho has received the following Report from the United States' Consul at Victoria: — "Forty-six sealing vessels cleared to date. Six or seven more to go. At the same date last year only thirty-one cleared." * " ;f . 1 *-i i m 11: ■ i % P [572] u .- .-^jSX^rJiU^ li.iii\ Ml' No. 22/5. iSir J. Paunee/ote to the Marquis of Saliabury. — {Received February 28.) (Ti'lcRriipliic.) Wttshintiton, February 27, 1892, 'I'tiH Convention will ho signed nn Monday, at II A.M. No. 22r.. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Maniuis of SaUnhury. — {Received Mnrch I.) My Lord, U'ashiinjton, February 18. 1R02. I II.WR tlio honour to inclose herewith copien of a c(irrc8pon<ic'ncc which hao taken place hctwccn Mr. niainu and nijHeU' on the Huhjoct of the Bchring'« Sea .Foint Commission. ^ our liOrdship will renjoniticr that tho Hritish CommiHsionerH were Hiimmoncd to Wa"«hin}jton at tiio rt<(]ucst of Mr. Blaine, who, nfior hrivin;^ persislontly refused to d^'^t^e to ihc nieclinjj: of the Joint Commission until nfter the signature of the Arhitration Convontiim, informed me on the Iflth Jiinnary (as I had the honour to report to your Lordsliip hy telegraph on the surne day) that he was now anxious that tlie Commission shoidd sit at once, and he proposed Washington as tho most convenient i)lace of meeting. Accordingly Sir Oeorge Haden-PowcU, who was tlien in Kngland, started hy tho first o])portuniiy for New York, and, after visiting Ottawa, arrived in Washington with his Canadian colleague, Dr. Dawson, on the 3lst ultimo. On tho following day (Monday, the 1st instant) I presented them formally to Mr. Blaine at the 8(atc Department as the British Commissioners, and I understood from him that they would he placed immediately in communication with their Anierican coUeogues with a view to proceeding at onco with the husiness of the Joint Comioission. It was not, however, until the evening of Friday, the 5th, that I received a note from Mr. Bliiinc informing mc of the foi >'inl appointment of tho Amoricon Commissioners, and stating that as soon as he si id have heen "ofllcially advised" hy mo of the appointment of Commissioners on the part of the British Government, tho United States' Cnmmissioners would he ready to confer with them "informally." hut that until the Arbitration Convention should have boon signed, tho Commissioners woidd not be expected to agree upon or formuhite any llcpcnt. This communication, which I received with surprise under tho circumslanees above mentioned, led to the corresijonilenco which I have the honour to inclose, from which your Lordship will perceive that Mr. Blaine ultimately agreed that the Commission should proceed formally to business. But the first meeting of the Commission did not take ])lacc until the 15th instant, and a whole fortnight was lost by delays, for which it appears to mc that the United States' Government are ah)ne responsible. I beg to draw your Lordship's particular attention to Mr. Blaine's remarks in his letter of the 0th February on the selection of Commissioners made hy Her Majesty's Government, and I trust that the answer which I returned to that letter will meet with your Lordship's approval. T have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure 1 in No. 226. Mr. Blaine to Sir J. Pauncefote, Sir, Department of State, Washington, February 4, 1892. I HAVE the honour to inform you that the President has this day appointed and coMimissioned Thomas Corwin Mcndenhall and Clinton Hart Merriam to act as Com- missioners on the part of tho Government of the United States in accordance with tho Agreement which I signed wiih you on the 18th December, 1891, to investigate and report, conjointly with Commissioners to bo appointed by the British Government, upon the facts having relation to the preservation of seal life in Behring's Sea, and the measures necessary for its protection and preservation, with a view to the submission of their conclusions to the Board of Arbitrators, whose constitution has already been agreed upon by us. Until the Convention for Arbitration shall have been signed the Commissioners will not be expected to agree upon or formulate any Reports, but after I shall be officially advised by you of the appointment of Commissioners on the part of the British Govern- th( ■..J^'-ikXtiaJas^i •■I'li'n'ii'-ltitliMlifetri I "■ ' .. ■.■.■.■^.■iULj;j.^.,|--^^ J.) 27, 1892. ) 18. IRO'i. ; which \\M r'B 8oa Joint iimmoncil t" isi'd to iifircc > A rl)il ration port 1(» your CommisHioii c of moctiiifj. 1 l)y the iirst jton with lii« lay (Momlay. rtmciit as tlio I iinmodiatoly ' at onco with id ft noto from lomniissioncrs, by mo of the United States' that until tlie ivonld not be lich I received ondcncc wliich at Mr. Blaine ICS9. But the t, and a whole Jnited States' •cmarks in his Her Majesty's will meet with NCEFOTE. lary 4, 1892. appointed and act as Corn- dance with the investigate and ^crnmcnt, upon Sea, and the the submission As already been nmissioners will all be officially British Govem- m mcnt, the rommiMioners on the part of the United Slates will hold themH<*lvps ready to fonfci' informiiily with their British c()lloaji;ucH at such time as may suit their con- venience. , • I have, &c. (Signed) JAMES G. BLAINE. Inclosure *2 in No. 220. , : ,, i. , Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Blaine. Sir, ■''• • '' Wniihington, Fehrunrii 0, 1H\}2. I HAVE the honour to ncknowli'dge the receipt of your note diited tlie 4th Tchrunry (bm only delivered yestenliiy evening;), in wiiich you inform me timt the President Iuih appointed Mr. Mendcnimll and .Mr. Merriauj ConimiHsioiicrs, on the |)urt of the (lovernmcnt of th(^ United Stiitt's, on th(^ Joint (!otnmisHion tlierein ri'lorrcd to. Sir (Jeorge Ihulen-l'owcll ni\(l Prolossor D.awson, wiioui I had the lionour to present to you on the Ist instant, have been duly appointed (^oiiimiHsioners on the pari of Her Majesty's (Jovernnient, an<l, as I have already stated to you verbally, they are luinishcd with their credentials in due form. On the i;Mh ultimo, nt your rcnnost, 1 communicated to the Marquis of Salisbury, by teleijraph, your desire that the llritisli CommisHiimers should proceed at once to Washington. Accordingly, Sir O. 15aden-l'oweil left England for that pinpose by the first steamer, and arrived here witii Dr. Dawson on the 1st of the month. They have been awaiting ever since to be placed in communication with the United Stat(!s' Com- missioners, and I trust that arrangements will he nuule for the meeting of the Commission <in Monday next for the jjurpose indicated in the last paragraph of your note under reply, although the Hritish Commissioners came prepared, not for an informal conference, but to proceed officially to business. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUXC1':F0TB. '. Inclosure 3 in No. 220. Mr. Blaine to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Department of State, iVashington, February 0, 1892, r AM in receipt of your note of this date, in which you give me the official notifica- tion of the appointment of Sir G. Baden-Fowell and Professor Dawson as Commissioners on the part of the British (Jovernment on the Joint ('ommission created in view of the proposed fur-seal Arbitration. [n acknowledging your note, T deem it important to direct your attention to the fact that the Government of the United States, in nominating the Commissioners on its i)art, selected gentlemen who were especially fitted by their scientific attainments, ami who were in no wise disqualified for an impartial investigation and determination of the questions to be submitted to them by a public declaration of opinion previous or subsequent to their .selection. It is to be regretted that a similar course does not seem to have been adopted by the British Government. It appears, from a document which you transmitted to me under date of the 9th March, 1890 (Inclosure 4), that one of the gentlemen selected by your Government to act as a Commissioner on its part has fully committed himself in advanje on all the questions which are to [be ?J submitted to him for investigation and decision. I am further informed that the other gentleman named in )-our note had, previous to his selection, made public his views <m the subject ; and that very recently he has announced, in an address to his Parliamentary constituents, that the result of the investigation of this Commission and of the proposed Arbitration would be in favour of his Government. I trust, however, that these circumstances will not impair the candid and impartial investigation and determination which was the object had in view in the creation of the Commission, and that the result of its labours may greatly promote an equitable and mutually satisfactory adjustment of the questions at issue. The Commissioners on the part of the United States have been instructed to put themselves in communication with the British Commissionera, to tender them an apart* [672] TJ 2 r rs f It 148 mont at the Department of State for Mio joint conference, and, if it shall suit their convciiicn(;i', to n^ree witli tiiuni upon an hour for their first conference on Mondaj next, tlie i)th instant. It is propor to add tliat, when I indicated to you nn the 13tlt ultimo that tlie British Commissioner th;'n in London niigiit come at once to Washington, T supposed that wo should b'^'ore this date have si>;ned the Arl)itratioii Convention, and thus have enabled the Commissioners n proceed officially to a diacliarjjo of their duties. But as it became nc>.'essaiy to await ilie a|ii)roval of the draft of that instrument, which you have forwarded to London. I have interposed no objection to preliminary conferences of the Conunis- sioLcrs., anticipating the signature of the Convention within a very brief period. 1 have, &c. (Signed) JAMES G. BLAINE. Inclosure 4 in No. 22G. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Blaine. Sir, Washington, February 8, 1892. I HAVE the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your note of the Gth instant, in whii'li you observe upon the selection made by our respective Governments of the members of the Joint Commission which is about to sit at Washiniiton for the purpose of investigating and reporting upon the facts having relation to seal lite in Behring's Sea with a view to the proposed Arbitration. The second paragraph of your note contains the following passage : — "I deem it important to direct your attention to the fact that the Government of the United States, in nominating the Commissioners on its part, selected gentlemen who were especially fitted by their scientific attainments, and who were in no wise disqualified for an impartial investigation and determination of the questions to be submitted to them by a public declaration of opinion previous or subsequent to their selection. It is to be regretted that a similar course does not seem to have been adopted by the British Government." While I have much pleasure in congratulating your Government on having secured on their side the services of two such distinguisi ed gentlemen as Professor Mendenhall and Dr. Merriam, I must express my surprise and regret that you should have thought fit to refer in terms of disparagement to the choice made by Her Majesty's Govern- ment. The British Commissioners, Sir G. Baden-Powell and Dr. Dawson, are gentlemen whose scientific attainments and special qualifications for the duties intrusted to them are too well known to require any vindication on my part. But you complain of the fuel that Dr. Dawson in 1890 wrote a jjaper on the protection of the fur-seal in the North Pacific, in which he committed himself to certain views. This shows that he has made the subject his special study, and it appears to me that he is all the more qualified on that account to take i)art in the labours of the Joint Commission, which, I beg leave to point out, is not a Board of Arbitration, but one of Invesiigation. Dr. Dawson's note on the fur-seal, to which you refer, was merely based upon such published material as was at the time available, and I have his authority for stating that he does not feel himself in any way bound to the opinions expressed from the study of that material, in the light of subsequent personal investi^jation on the ground You likewise complain that Sir George Baden-Powell had, previously to his selection as Commissioner, made public his views on the subject, and also that he is reported to have stated in an address to his Parliamentary constituents that the result of the investigation of the Joint Commission and of the proposed Arbitration would be in favour of his Government. Sir G. Baden-Powell is particularly qualified to take part in the inquiry by reason of his personal investigation into the industrial part of the question which he pursued in 1887 and 1889 in San Francisco and British Columbia. From the first he has advocated in all his public statements a full inquiry into the facts of seal life in Behring's Sea before any final agreement should be arrived at, in order that the views of all parties should be tested as to the best method of protecting seal life. There is no just ground, therefore, for charging him with partiality. As regards the language imputed to him on the occasion of an address which he recently delivered to his constituents in England on the labour question, it appears that some introductory remarks, in which he referred to the Behring's Sea question, were inaccurately reported. What be did state was that, thanks to the arrangement arrived at between the two tha dis thr the Coi mei to ! ' 1-19 Buit their )n Monday the Britiab scd that wo ivc cnaljled n it became e forwarded 10 Commia- d. BLAIiNE. -,/ 8, 1892. ! Gth instant, monts of the r the purpose Jehring's Sea overnment of jntlemen who ,e disqualified submitted to eoti(m. It is by the British aving secured )r Mcndenhall have thouj>ht ijstj's Govcrn- ire gentlemen usted to them mphiin of the ur-seal in the svs tliat he has more qualified I beg leave ised upon such or stating that in the study of md ,0 his selection is reported to result of the . would be in to take part in il part of the itish Columbia. r into the facts ,ed at, in order protecting seal f. As regards lently delivered lie introductory rately reported, stween the two Governments, the Behring's Sea difficulty would now be settled in the true interests of all concerned, and not of any one aide or the other. I may mention that the opinions of I'rofensor Mcndenhall and Dr. Merriani on the fur-seal question were pul)lishe(l in several journals in this country shortly alter their return from Helirinfji's Hea, and were stated (I know not with what accuracy) to be opposed to thu views which have been urged on tho side of Her Majesty's Govern- ment. liut I do not suggest that the United Stater,' Commissioners on that account are disqualified from taking part in the labouis of tho Juint Commission ; I claim that all tho Commissioners, British and American, are equally entitled to the confidence of both Governments as men of science, honour, and inqjartiality. The course which has l)cen adopted for ascertaining what measures may be necessary for tiie protection of the fur-seal species i^ 8ul)stantially tho same as that wiiicli I had tho honour to propose to you, on belialf of Her Majesty's Government, nearly two years ago in the form of a draft Convention, inclosed in my note of the 29th April, ISDO. I rejoice that the proposal I then made is now to be carried out, and I cordially unite in the hope, expressed in your note under reply, tliat the result of the labours of the Joint Commission will promote an equitable and mutually satisfactory adjustment of the questions at issue. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure o in No. 226. Mr. Blaine to Sir J, Pauncefote, Sir, Department of State, fVashington, Febi uary 9, 1892. I HAVE been informed by the American Seal Conimis doners that, in an informal meeting with their British colleagues yesterday, the latter expressed an unwillingness to enter upon conferences of any other than an official ciiaracter, and they therefore proposed that their joint conferences be postponed until after the Arbitration Convention 8hall have been signed. I beg to state to you that the Government of tiie United States is very anxious to expedite as much as possible tiie consideration of ttic important questions submitted to the Commissioners ; and in view of the fact that it regards the Arbitration Convention as substantially agreed upon, the American Commissioners have been instructed to make known to the British Commissioners their readiness to formally arrange the joint conference and proceed without further delay to tl e discharge of the duties assigned to them. I have &c (Signed) ' JAMES G. BLAINE. Inclosure 6 in No. 220. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Blaine. Sir, Washington, February 11, 1892. I HAD the honour to receive yesterday your note of the 9th instant, in which you state that you have been inforined by the American Seal Commissioners that, in an informal meeting with their British colleagues on the 8th instant, the latter expressed an unwillingness to enter upon conferences of any othor than an official character, and they therefore proposed that their joint conferences be postponed until after the Arbitra- tion Convention has been signed. The British Commissioners, to whom I communicated your note, have informed me that, at the preliminary conference of the Commissioners on the 8th instant, they discussed with their colleagues what work of a preparatory character could be got through at once. The meeting was informal, according to the conditions laid down in the last paragraph of your note to me on the 4th instant ; and it was arranged by the Commissioners to hold a second preliminary conference this day at the State Depart- ment, at 3 o'clock, at which they could discuss certain matters which they had undertaken to consider ia the interval, and to do other preparatory work. ■! !( ' i 1 or i; ;• vmmmmm^aairrrssmBmmmammmmmKmmmm 160 "■ In consequence of jour note of the 9th instant, the B- itish Commissioners hope, at the conference to-day, to arrange with their colleagues that the joint conference shall proceed to husiness formally. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUXCEFOTE. III! No. 227. -S?V J, Pauncefote to the Marqu'j of Salisbury.- -{Received March I.) My Lord, Washington, Februari/ 18, 1892. AVITH reference to my precodinn; despatch .;f to-day, relating to the Behring's Se.; Joint Commission, 1 linve the lionour to inclose copies of an informal note •wiiich I rccoivcd '"'•on Mr. Blnine on the 12tli instant respecting the refusal of the ]}rifi?li Commissioners to deal with the question of n modus viiemli, and of the reply w'.iich I retuitic'd thereto. Als" a copy of a letter addressed to me on the 13th instant by the Btit sh Commissioners, inquiring wiie'lier the Commission is authorized to consifliM* ar.d report on measures of seal preservation within the territorial jurisdiction of either Power. I took the opportuity of a visit to the State Department on M(mday, the 15th instant, to show the last-mentioned letter to Mr. Blaine, who, after reading it, expressed his surprise that, looking at the wide terms of the Joint Conmiissiou Agreement, the Ooniniissioners should entertain any doubt rs to the scope of their powers ; and he suggested that they should all be invited to meet him and me at the State Department the following morning to explain their diHiciilty. The meeting accordingly took place, but all discussion was rendered unnecessary by the announcement that t!;e .American Commissioners had, since the date of the letter, arrived at the conclusion that they were f' ee to consider all measures', even though they might relate to matters within national jurisdiction. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure 1 in N". 227. Mr. Blaine to Sir J. Pauncefote. My dear Sir Julian, i7. Mndison Place, Washington, Febiuary 12, 1892. THE motive you have always urged upon me for assembling the Commissioners on Seal V si, cries at an early date was th.nt ^hey could provide a modus vivendi that would be suti'icio f, while the Arbitro'ion should go on with plenty of time to consider the various poi 3. 1 was surprised to hear that your Commissioners yesterday declined to discuss the modus tioendi, on the allegation tliat that was a subject reserved for you and me. This puts an en'irely new phase upon the work of the Commission, and largely diminishes its v.'iluC. Will you hive the goodness to advise me of the precise scope of the work which you have assigned to your Commissioners? Very truly, &c. (Signed) JAMES G. BLAINE. Inclosure 2 in No. 227. Sir J. Pauncefote to Mr. Blaine. Dear Mr. Blaine, Washington, February 13, 1892. 'N reply to your letter of yesteday, I beg to stato that, in my opinion, the British Commissioners arc right in holding i,hat they have no pover ' "der their present mandate to discuss the question of a modus vivendi for the next fishery season. Their authority is limit-^d by the terms of the Joint Commission Agreement, the text of which we signed on the 18th December last. That authority is confined to reporting theii views on '■•^^ 3 hope, at jnco shall ;fote. S. 1892. Bc'hring's )niml iicto J Sill of the f the reply 3tli instant horized to jurisdiction f, the 15th t, expressed semeiit, the ;rs ; and he Department took place, le American it they were hin national CEFOTE. -12,1892. inimissioners that would consider the o discuss the me. This iminishes its e work which BLAINE. !»FW ■y 13, 1892. )n, the British sent mandate heir autliority lich we signed heii views on 151 what Fishery Tlcgulations of a permanent character mny ho necessary with a view to arbitration. The question of a modus vivendi pending the result of the Arbitration is one for the two Governments to discuss. 1 have certainly ur^ed, as an additional reason for the early meeting of the Joint Commission, tliat its Reports would furnish our Governments with valuable materials for such discussion ; but it can hardly be contended that the Commissioners can properly deal with such a question without special authority from their respective Governments. I communicated to Lord Salisbury the proposal you made to mc at our interview of tlie 2nd instant, tliat our two Governments should agree to a modus vivendi, and I am awaiting his Lordship's reply. Very truly, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosurc 3 in No. 227. The Behring's Sea Commissioners to Sir J. Pauncefole. Sir, Arlivgton Hotel, Washington, February 13, 1892. WE have the honour to in'f, m you tliat our cidleagues on the Behring's Sea Joint Commission have to-day explained to us that their original letter of instructions lias now lapsed, and that they have no further instructions than those contained in tlie text of their Commission. We are now holding daily conferences, and are anxious not to waste time by discussing matters outside the scope of our mutual instructions, which should, we presume, be identical. We agreed with our colleagues to ask whether you would obtain from the Secretary of State iiii'ormation as to wiiether the United States' Commissioners are, like ourselves, authorized to consider, and, if they see fit, to report in favour of, measures of seal preser- vation in general, or whether they are restricted to measures outside the territorial jurisdiction of either Power. We have, &c. (Signed) GKORGE BADEN-POWELL. GEORGE M. DAWSON. No. 228. Sir J, Pauncefole to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received March 1 .) (Telegraphic.) Washington, February 29, 1 >!)2. BIOHRING'S SEA. The Arbitration Convention was signed by Mr. Blaine and myself this morning. Is it desired by your Lordship that the exchange of vatitications should take place in Washington or in London ? No. 229. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefole. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, March i, 1892. IN reply to your telegram of the 29th ultimo, the exchange ot ratificarioiis of the Behring's Sea Convention could be carried out more expeditiously if nicuie in London than at Washington. You should telegraph when the Convention is approved by the Senate. I -i II i • 1 \ ii m 152 5i.o. 2.30. The Marquis of Salii4ury to Sir J. Pauncefote. Sir, Foreign Office, March .'3. 1 89.'. I HAVE received your (ffspatch if*" i1t« 18tli ultimo, inclosing copies of corre- spondence witli Mr. Blaine in regard to the titeestra^ of the Joint Commissioners appointed under the Agreei-ient ot tlie iSfh December ltt*t ftu report on the facts having rcla li( n;> the preservation of seal lite in Behrin-r's S-a. Yoor proceedings, as reported >; tii<»r. despatch, and the terms ot your note to Mr. Blaine of the 8tl< Februarv , are iryfrove^ by Her Majesty's Government. 1 am, Sic. (Sign«l) SALISBURY. No. 231. Sir J. Patmeefote ij^ M\e Marquis of Salitbury. — [ti^Aiit)^ March 5.) My Lord, Wcahinpon, Februari/ 23, 1S!)2. 1 HAVE the honour to report that on the >5th instatK the President issuud the usual Behring's Sea Proclamation in the same terms as heretoloi'e. 1 have, &c. (Signed) ,^'ULIA;S^ PAfJNCEFOTE. Inclosure in No, 231. Bt the President op the United States op America. I' ii I-; 1,1 A Proclamation. THE following provisions of the Laws of the United States are hereby pjblisiiGd for the information of all ooneerned : — Section 1956, Revised Statutes, Chapter 3, Title 23, enacts that: " No person shall kill any otter, mink, marten, sable, or fur-seal, or other fur-bearing animal within the limits of Alaska Tc rritory, or in the waters thereof; and every pei-son guilty thereof shall, for each offence, be fined not less than 200 nor more than 1,000 dollars, or imprisoned not more than six months, or both ; and all vessel-., their tackle, .iDpai-el furniture, and car.iro, found angagerl in violation of this section shall be forfVitri; bin the Secretary of th' ' reasury shall have power to authorize the killing of anv (<i*eh mink, 'waPten. sable, or • um* fur- bearing animal, except fur-seals, under such regulations m lie mw prest^^be; and it shall be the duty of the Secretary to prevent the killing of any lur-seai, and to provide l()r the execution of the provisions of this section until it is orliJ?r\vise provided l)v law ; nor shall he grant any special privileges under this section." Section 3 of the Act entitled "An Act to provide for tlif Protection of ^ Fisheries of Alaska," approved March 2, 1889, provides ihat : — " Section 3. That section ly'jfi of the Revised Statut.*^ of the United States is hen^b^v declared to include and a^»ply to all the dominion of the United States in the waters of Behring's Sea ; and it shall be the duty of the President, at a timely season in each year, to issue Ills Proclamation and cause the same to be published for one month in at least one newspaper, if any such there be, published at each United .States' port of entry on the Pacific coast, warning nil persons against entering said waters for the purpose of violating the provisions of said section; and he shall also cause one or more vessels of the United Slates to diligently cruize said wat- s and arrest all persons, and seize all vessels found to be, or to have been, engaged in ■ y violation of the laws of the United States therein." Now, therefore, I, Benjarrm Harrison, President of the United States, pursuant fo the above recited Statutes, h by warn all persons against entering the waters of H;^hiing's Sea within the dominion o' o United States for the purpose of violatingthe provisions of said section \9^Q, Rev' jtatutes; and 1 hereby proclaim that all persons found to be, or Sir, III SSSS9BSSS SW^' . 189i.'. ol conv- appointcd elii t!iii;> r uolc to ;BURV. 23, 1892. issued llie :efote. (■jblishod ibr ivson shall kill the limits of Khali, lor each jucd not more car;.'o, found Ih ' 'veasiiry or ■ M'v fur- anii It. sliall •ovidi' lov the ; not' shall I ,..■ S,:...- |tat<^s IS IteiK-bv the watci-s o' 1) in each year, Tin at least one It' entry on the lie of violatin;; lot the United kssels found to les therein." Is, pursuant to Irsot 15;^hiin>Vs lie provisions of 1 found to be, or to have been, engaged in any violation of the laws of the United States in said waters will be arrested and punished as above ])rovided, and that all vessels so employed, their tackle, apparel, furniture, and cargoes, will lie seized and forfeited. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed. Done at the city of Washington this li)th day of February, 1892, and of the Inde- pendence of the United States the 116th. (Signed) BENJ. HARRISON. By the President : (Signed) James G. Blaine, Secretary of Slate. No. 232. Sir G. Baden-Powell to the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received March 5.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, March 4, 1 892. WE have to-day, 4th March, signed our Joint Report. Unless instructed to remain, we shall leave Washington next week. No. 233. Sir J, Pauncefole to the }farquis of Salisbury. — {Received March 7.) My Lord, • Washington, February 2fl, 1892. WITH reference to my telegram of yesterday, I have the honour to inclose copies of the notes exchanged between Mr. Blaine and myself on the subject of the modus vivendi therein referred to. i have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure 1 in No. 233. Sir J. Pauncefole to 3/r. Blaine. Sir, JVashington, February 19, 1892. ON the occasion of our interview on the 2nd instant, when you handed me the draft of the Behring's Sea Arbitration Convention, which I forwarded to London for the consideration of Her Majesty's Government, you asked me whether they were prepared to agree to a modus vivendi for the next fishery season in Behring's Sea. In transmitting the draft of the Arbitration Convention to the Martjuis of Salisbury I did not fail to inform him of your inquiry, and I have now received a reply from his Lordship to the effect that Her Majesty's Government cannot express any opinion on the subject until they know what modus vivendi you desire to propose. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Inclosure 2 in No. 233. Mr. Blaine to Sir J, Pauncefole. Sir, Department of State, Washington, February 24), 1892. I AM in receipt of your note of the 19th. You therein inform me that Lord Salis- bury cannot express any opinion on the subject of the modus vivendi until he knows what we desire to propose. I am glad to hear that Lord Salisbury contemplates n modus, for it is obvious that it is impossible to conclude the Arbitration within the time originally set. Indeed, we shall hardly be able to enter upon it. The delays have been much greater on the part of Great Britain than on the part of the United States. Ip reply to your inquiry, the President suggests that the modus should be much the same a last year in terms, but that it should be better executed. It was very ineffective [672] X '^'- k !M If EiaSi 164 last year, for there was a larger number of seals in Behring's Sea taken then than ever before. The vessels had already set out before the modus was agreed to, and it Was impos- sible to give them notice in time to avoid <heii- taking seals. Her Majeiity's Government did not take such efficient measures as an earlier date this year will render practicable. If Her Majesty's Government would make their efforts most cfl'ective, the sealing in the North Pacific Ocean should be forbidden, for there the slaughter of the mothers heavy with young is the greatest. This would require a notice to the large number of sealers which are preparing to go forth from British Columbia. The number is said to be greater than ever before, and without any law to regulate the killing of seals the destruction will be immense. All this suggests the great need of an effective modus. Holding an Arbitra- tion in regard to the rightful mode of taking seals while their destruction goes forward would be as if, while an Arbitration to the title to timber-land were in progres ., one party should remove all the trees. I sliall have to ask you to transmit the contents of this note to Lord Salisbury by telegraph. Every day that is lost now entails great trouble upon both Governments. 1 have, &c. (Signed) JAMES G. BLAINE. No. 234. Sir J, Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury,— {Received March 9, 11 '15 a.m.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, March 8, 1892. THE ^Vcting Secretary of Stat(' li.ns to-day didiAorcd to me on hchalf of Mr. Blaine (who is unwell) a note on the subject of the renewal of the modus vivendi, Avith a request from the ricsidcnt that I should telogi'ai)h it to your Lordship. I accordingly scud a full summary : — [For text of the Note sec Inclosnre I in Sir J. Pauncefote's despatch of March 10 : infriu No. 243.] No. 235. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J, Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, March 9, 1892, 6-30 P.m. 1 SHOULD wish you to repeat to Lord Stanley your telcgr&m of yesterday, about Behrmg's Sea. No. 230, Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — (Received March 9, 10*30 P.M.) (Telegraphic.) Washington, March 9, 1892. BEIIKING'S SEA Convention 6cnt to Senate yesterday, and referred to Committee on Foreign Affairs. No. 237. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury, — {Received March 10.) My Lord, Washingto7i, March 1, 1892, ^\ ITU reference lo the question of the lenewal of the modus -ivindi in Beluing's Sco, 1 iiavo the honour to inclose copy of the nt>te v.liicli, upon recei|tt of your Lordship's telegram of the 27th ultitno, 1 addressed to M-;. Dlaino on the subject. i have, &e. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEF0T£. i« BKna mmawr than ever vas impos- overnment ;icable. sealini? in hers heavy • of scalers he greater ■uction will au Arbitra- )es forward , one party jalisbury by iments. BLAINE. 5 A.M.) ,h 8. 1892. )!• Mr. Blame vencli, Avitli a I accordingly : March 10 : h- _, 6-30 P.M. sterdny, about •30 P.M.) rch 9, 1892. to Committee 10.) ,rch 1, 1892. ,/i hi Behrhig's four Lordship's JNCKFOTE. 165 Inclosure in No. 2:^7. 8ir J. Paunccfole to Mr. Blaine. Sir, Washington, February 29, 1892. IMMEDIATELY upon the receipt of your note of tlie 24tli instant, respecting a renewal ol tlie modus vivendi in Behriiig's Sea, and in accordance with the wish therein expressed, I telcgrajihcd its contents to the Manpiis of Salisbury. In that note, after observing that it is impossible to conclude the Arbitration within the time originally set, and that the delays have been much greater on the part of (.ireixt Britain than on the part of the United States, you proceed to intbrm me that in the view of the President the new modus vivendi should be nuich the same as that of last year in terms ; that owing to the earlier date this year it could be more eftectivcly executed ; but that "if Her Majesty's Government would make their efforts most effective, the sealing in the North Pacific Ocean should be forbidden." After pointing out " the great need of an effective modus," you state that " holding an Arbitration in regard to the rightful mode of taking seals while their destruction goes forward, would be as if, wiiile an Arbitration to the title to timber-land were iu progress, one party should remove all the trees." I have the honour to inform you that I have received a re[)ly fro.u Lord Salisbury to the follov.iug effect : — In the first place, his Lordship stales that lie cannot in ai.y degree admit tiiat the delays have been greater on the part of Great Britain than on t!ie part of the United States. As regards the necessity for anoHier modus rivendi, Her Majesty's Government con- sented to thi t measure last year solely on the ground that it was su])posed that there would be dangc'r to ttie preservation of the seal .species in Behring's Sea unless some interval in the slaughter of seals were prescribed both at sea and on land. But Her Majesty's Govern- ment have received no information to show that so drastic a remedy is necessary for two consecutive seasons. On tiie contrary, the British Commissioners on the Behring's Sea Joint Commission have informed Her Majesty's Government that, so far as pelagic sealing is concerned, there is no danger of any serious diminution of the fur-seal species as a con- sequence of this year's hunting. Nevertheless, Lord Salisbury would not (ibject, as a temporary measure of precaution for this season, to the proljil-ilion of all Idiling at sea within a zone extending to not more than 30 nautical miles around the Pryiiiloff Islands, such prohibition being conditional on the restriction of the number of seals to be killed for any purpose on the islands to a maximum of 30,000. * Lonl Salisbury, referring to the passage in your note in which you compare the case to an Arbl^^ration bout timber-land from which tiie trees are being removeil by one of the parties, observes that he iiardly thinks the simile quite apposite. His Lordship stiggests that the case is more like one of Arbitration respecting the title to a meadow. While the Arbitration is in progress, he adds, we cut the grass, and quite rightly for the grass will be reproduced next year, and so will the seals. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. No. 238. Sir G. Baden-Powell to the Marquis of Salisburii.— (Received March 10.) (Telegrai)liic.) Washinylou, Ma, h i>, iS92. WITH reference to the modus vlrvndi, I am of opinion that the t. iking ot one season's limiteil crop raimot injure the seal herd, but that, although not necessary, the reaewal of last year's prohibition and the 7,500 limit would be beneficial. As the Arbitration Convention conditions ocean rights, 1 hope that the Canadian Government has warned the British Columbian sealers that the ultimate ownership of the seals taken this year in lUdiring- Sea depends upon th.e verdict of the Arbitrators. The alternatives for the sealers appear to be either to incur the expense of the catch subject to this risk, or to forego, without compensation, one season's eatcii of, say, 20,000 (in Behring's Sea), on condition that 7,.')00 instead of 30,OUO are taken on the islands, increased numbers ot seaU in future seasons, and enhanced prices for this spring, being also insured by sucli restrictions. ■I 'i n 15721 X 2 .»*. 156 No. 239. Sir J. Pauncefote lo the Marquis of Salisbury. — {Received March 14.) My Lord, Washington, March 4, 1892. I UAVE tlic honour to inclose h(>rcwitli the 15chriiii,''s Sea Arbitration Conven- tion, which was si^-ued by Sir. lilaiuo and niyscll" on the 2'Jtli February. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. Liclosure in No. 239. Treaty between Her Majesty inid the United States of America for Arbitration concerning the Seal Fisheries in liehrinifs Sea. Signed ut Washington, February 29, 1892. IIEll ]\raje.sty the Queen of tlie United Kinf;doni of Groat Britain rind Ireland and the LTnitcd States of America, hein!^ desirous to provide for an amicable settlement of the questions which have arisen between their respective Govei'nments conceruini;; the jurisdictional rii^lits of the United States in the waters of J3ehring's Sea, and concernin;? also the preservation of the fur-seal in or hnbirually resorting to the said sea, and the riglilsof the citiztMis and subjects of either country as regards the taking of fur-seal in or habitaally resorting to the said waters, have resolved to submit to arl)itration the questions involved, and to the end of concluding a Convention for that purpose have appointed as their res]>eclive Plenipotentiaries : Iler Majesty tin Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Sir Julian Pauncefote, G.C.M.G., K.C.I)., Her Majesty's Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary to the United States ; and the President of the United States of America, James G. Jilaine, Secretary of State of the United States ; AV'lio, after having c(mimunieated to each other their respective Full Powers, which were found to be in diii^ and pro[)cr form, have agreed to and concluded the following Articles : — AirJlCLE I. The questions which have arisen between the Government of Her Britannic "Majesty and the Government of thf I'nitod States eoncerning the jurisdictional rights of the Ignited States in the Avaters of Pehring's Sea, and concerning also the preservation of the fiu'-seal in or habitually resorting to the said sea, and the rights of the citizens and subjects of either country as rcL'ards the taking of fur-seal in or habitually resorting to the said waters, shall l)e hubmitted to a Tribunal of Arbitration, to be composed of seven Arbitrators, who shall be appointed in the following manner, that is to say: two shall lie named by Her Britannic Majesty; two shall b(! named by the Presid(>nt of the United States ; his Excellency the President of the Pi'eneh Pepublic shall be joinlly vequi'sled by the High Contracting Parties to name one; ills Majesty the King n.: Italy shall be so requested to name one; and Ills Majesty the King of Sweden and >orw;ay shall be so requested to name one. The seven Arbitrators to W so named shall be jurists of distinguished reputation in their respective countries. In cast' of the death, absence, or incapacity to serve of any or either of the said Arbitrators, or in the event of any or either of the said Arbitrators omitting or declining or ceasing to act as such, Her Britannic Majesty, or the President of the United Stages, or his Excellency the President of the Prench Republic, or His Majesty the Kijij;' of Italy, or His Majesty the King of Sweden and Norway, as the case may be, shall name, or shall be requested to name forthwith, another person to act as Arb trator in the place and stead of the Arbitrator originally named by such head of a State. Antl in the event of the refusal or omission for two months after receipt of the joint request from the High Contracting Parties of his ExccMency the President of the rrench Pie]iublic, or His Majesty the King of Italy, or His ]\lajesty the King of Sweden and Norway, to name an Arhitiator, either to till the original aiipointment or to fill a vacancy as above provided, then in such case the ai)pointment shall be made or the vacancy shall be lilled in such manner as the High Contracting Parties shall agree. 157 4, 1892. lu Conven- EPOTE. I concerning , 1892. raid Ireland c settlement I conceruinij; rr's Sea, and » to tlie said the taking of o submit to ition for that and Ireland, ordinary and United States f owers, wliicli the following lev Britannia ietional rights [ling also the I the rights of I fur-seal in or hi Arbitration, the following ,{v ; two shall J 'President of ^ing Parties to one ; and Ills .anc one. The itation in their [ler of the said tng or dccliuir.g I liiiited Stti'^es,^ [tv the Kiiij; of h niay be, shall It as Arb'.trator lof a State. I receipt of the lie President of Ity the King of lal apiioinlnient Itmcnt shall be ftraoting Parties ARTICLE II. The Arbitrators shall meet at Paris within twenty days after the delivery of the counter-cases mentioned in Article IV, and shall jiroceed impartially and carefully to es amine and decide the questions tliat have l)e(>n or shall be laid l)ei'ore them as herein provided on the part of the Governments of Iter Britannic IVIajesty and the United States respectively. All questions considen d by the Tribunal, including the final decision, shall be determined by a majority of all tiio Arbitrators. Each of the Uigh Contracting Parties sliall also name one person to attend the Tribunal as its Agent to represent it generally in all matters connected with the arbitration. ARTICLE III. The printed case of each of \ho two ])arties, accompanied i)y the documents, the cnicial correspondence, and other evidence on which each relies, shall be delivered in dujdicate to each oi' the Arbitrators and to tlie Agent of the other party as soon as may be al'tcr the appointment t)f the memlicrs of the Tribunal, but witiiin a period not exceeding three months irom the date of the exchange of the ratiricatious of this Treaty. APtTICLE IV. Within three morn '.is aftc tin delivery on both sides of the jirintcd case, either party may, in like mairier, d'livci' in duplicate to each of the s,aid Arbitrators, and to the Aii'cnt of the other |)ar*y, a counter-case, a.nd additional documents, (!oireapondcnec, and evi'lence, in reply to the case, documtuts, correspondence, and evidence so presented by tlu' other ])arty. If, however, in consequeiipc of the cjist:inee vti' the place from which tlu; evidence to be presented is to be proetu'cd, citiior party shall, within tiiirty days after the receipt by its Agent of the case of the other partVf give notice to the other \)ini\ that it re(|uires additional time for the delivery of such countei'-case, documents, corre- spondence, and evidence, such additional time so indicated, but not exceeding sixty days beyond the three months in this Article provided, shall bo alloAved. If in the case submitted to the Arbitrators either party shall have specified or alluded to any report or document in its oun exclusive possession, without annexing a copy, such party shall be bound, if the other party thinks iiropcr to ajiply for it, to furnish tiiat party willi a copy thercol'; and either jiarty may call upon the other, through the Arbitrators, to pronuoc tlu' originals or certified copies of any papers adduced as evidence, giving in each instance notice tliereof Avithin tiiirty days after delivery of the ease; and tlie criginal or copy so reqiiested shall be delivered as soon as may be, and within a period not exceeding forty dayn aftei receipt of notice. ARTICLE V. It shall be the duty of the 4gent of each party, wicliin one month after the expiration of tiie time limited for tlie delivery of the countoi-case on both sides, to deliver in duplicate to each of the said Arbitrators and to the Agent of the other party a printed argument sho-\ving the points and referring to the evidence upon which his tjovernment relies, and either ])arty may also support the same before the Arbitrators by oral argument of eounsel; and tlie Arbitrators may, if they desire further elucidation with re^^avd to any ])i)iiit, require a written or piinted statement or argument, or oral argument by counscil, iqion it ; but in such case the other party shall be entitled to reply eitiicr orally or in writing', as the case may be. ARTICLE VI. In deciding the matters submitted to the Arbitrators, it is agi-eed that the following five ])oin1s shall be submitted to them, in order that their award shall embrace a distinct decision upon each of said five points, to wit : — 1. What exclusive jurisdiction in the sea now known as the Behring's Sea, and what exclusivu rights in tht; seal iisheries therein, did Russia assert and exercise prior and up to the time of the cession of Alaska to the United States V 15H 2. How fai' wd'o these claims of iurisdiction as to tlio ser.l fisliories recognized aud conceded by Great Jiriiaiii r 3, Was the body of water now known as the Beliring's Sea included in tlin phras(> "Pacific Ocean," as used in tlu^ Treaty of 1825 between Great Uritain and Russia ; and M'bat rights, if any, in the Behring's Sea, were hehl and exclusively exercised by Russia alter said Treaty ? 1. Did not all the rights of Russia as to jurisdiction and as to the seal fisheries in Rebring's Sea east of the water boundary, in the Treaty i)ctwccn the United States and i'lussia of the 30th Jlarch, 1807, pass unimpaired to the United States under that Treaty P 5. lias the United States any right, and, if so, what right, of protection or property in the fur-seals fre([uenting the islands of the United States in Bebriug Sea when such seals arc found outside the ordinary 3-mile limit? ARTICLE VII. If the determination of the foregoing (|Ucstions as to the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States shall leave the subject in such position that the concurrence of Great Britain is necessary to the esfablishnient of Regulations for the proper pro- tection and ])reservation of the fur-seal in, or habitually resorting to, the Behriiig Sea, the Arbitrators sliall then deti rniine what concurrent Regulations outside tlu- juris- dictional limits of tlic respective tiovernni(Mits are necessary, and over wliat Avaters such ilegvilations shoidd extend, and to aid them in that determination, tin; Beport of a Joint Commission, to be appointed by the respective Governments, shall be laid before them, with such oth(>r evidence as either Government may sidimit. The High Contracting I'arties furthermore agree to co-operate in securing the adhesion of other Bowers to such Regulations. ARTICIiE VIII. The High Contracting Parties having found tbemseU'cs unable to agree upon a reference which shall include the question of the liability of each for the injuries alleged to have been sustained bv the other, or bv its citizens, in connection Avitli the claims presented and urged by it ; and, being solicitous that this subordinate question should not interrupt or longer delay the submission and determination of the main questions, do agree that cither may submit to the Arbitrators any question of fact involved in said claims and ask for a finding thereon, the question of the liability of either Government upon the facts found to be the subject of further negotiation. ; ( ARTICLE IX. The High Contracting Parties having agreed to api)oint two Commissioners on the part of each Government to make the joint investigation and Report contemplated in the preceding Article VII, and to include the terms of the said Agreement in the present Convention, to the end that the joint and several Reports and recommenda- tions of said Commissioners may be in due form submitted to the Arbitrators, should the contingency therefor arise, the said Agreement is accordingly herein included as follows : — Each Government shall appoint two Commissioners to investigate, conjointly with the Commission(;rs of the other Government, all the facts having relation to seal life in Behring's Sea, and the measures necessary for its proi)er [irotcction and preservation. Tlu! four Commissioners shall, so far as they may be able to agree, make a joint Report to each of the two Governments, and they shall also report, either jointly or severally, to each Government on any points upon m liich they may bo unable to agree. These Reports shall not be made public until they shall be submitted to the Arbitrators, or it shall appear that the contingency of their being used by the Arbitrators cannot arise. ARTICLE X. Each Government shall pay the expenses of its members of the Joint Commission in the investigation referred to in the preceding Articl-, 109 ognized ill thn iiiii and ilusivcly Hsliprics >(l States .<s under !ction or Ik'lu'ing visdiction [\currence opev i)VO- ii'iiig Sea, the juris- lat waters Uepovt of 11 1)0 laid mving tlio vce iipou a he injuries n Avitli the te question ' the main ion of tact ability of ition. issioncrs on iteniplated >nt in the ommenda- ors, should ncluded as eonjointly ition to seal cction and make a ther jointly e unable to itted to the sed by the Commission ARTICL]-: XI. The decision of the Tribunal sliall, if possible, be made witliin three months from the elose of the argument on both sides. It shall be made in writing and dated, and shall bo signed by the Arbitrators who may assent to it. Tii(' deeision shall be in diij)lieate, one coj)y whereof shall be delivered to the Agent of (Jrcat Britain for his Government, and the other copy shall be delivered to tho Agent of the United States for his Government. AETICLE XII. Eacth Government shall pay its own Agent and ]n'ovide for the pi-opcr rcMUnera- tion of the counsel employed by it and of tho Arbitrators appointed l)y it, and for tile expense of preparing and submitting its ease to the Tiibunal. All other expenses connected with the arbitration shall be defrayed by the two Governments in equal moieties. AETICLE XIII. The Arbitrators shall keep an accurate record of their proceedings, and may appoint and employ the necessary officers to assist them. AETICLE XIV. The Itigli Contracting Parties engage to consider the result of the proceedings of the Tribunal of Arbitration, as a full, jjcrfect, and final settlement of all the questions referred to tho Arbitratore. ARTICLE XV. Th(; present Treaty shall be duly ratified by Her Britannic Majesty and by the President of the United States of America, by and w ith the advice and consent of the Senate; thereof ; and the ratifications shall be exchanged cither at Washington or at London within six months from the date hereof, or earlier if possible. In faith M'liereof, we, the resiicctivc Plenipotentiaries, have signed this Treaty, and have hereunto affixed our seals. Dftne in duplicate, at Washington, the 29tli day of February, 1892, (L.S.) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. (L.S.) JAMES G. BLAINE. No. 240. The Marquis of iialisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) JTashington, March 15, 1892. 1 SHOULD wish you to repeat to the Governor-General the telegram I have received from Sir G. Baden-Powell, dated the 8th March. No. 241. The Marqicis of Salishunj to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, March 18, 1892. nEll Majesty's Government have had under their consideration, and have consulted the Governor-General of Canada in regard to, the arguments in favoilr of a renewal of the modus virendi of last year, contained in Mr. Wharton's note of the 8th instant, the substance of which is given in your telegram of that day. The necessity of reference to Ottawa has caused a delay in returning an answer. The information which has reached Her Majesty's Government does not lead them to believe that, in order to prevent an undue diminution of the number of fur-seals, any necessity exists for tho suspension of sealing for another year. Beyond this question, hoAvever, I understand that the Government of the United States consider that, should free scaling be ijermitted this year, and the United States' claim to jurisdiction in Behring's Sea be uphold by the Arbitrators, they have a right to be protected from the loss that they will have suffered by the sealing operations, Her Majesty's Govoviimcnf do not dispute that there will bo some foundation for this conteiitiuii wIkmi the Arhitnilion Ai^reeinenl Iims been ratided. Hut there is this det'eet in tiio iiroiiiliilioii of all sealiiu; as a remedy, that the Hritisli contention shall be npheld by the ^\vl)itra(ors, there may bo t!;roiiiid i'or complaint on the part of the JJritish sealers who will have been excluded I'rom Behrini,''s Sea. Further, no security exists that tho Arbitrators will have given their decision before the sealing season of 189.'J arrives. As you are aware, there has been an arbitration pending for four years between this country, the United States, and i'ortiiy-al, whieh is not yet approaching conelnsiou. Serious damage would be caused to the sealing industry by a suspension of hunting for a prolonged period. As a more equitable arrangement, might it not bo agreed that sealing-vcssels shall be at liberty to hunt in Bchring's Sea on condition that security is given by the oAVUer of each vessel for satisfying the award of damages, if any, which the jVi'bitrators may eventually pronounce ? No. 2'i2, Lord Knutsford to Lord Stanley of Preston. (Telegraphic.) Downing Street, March 18, 1892. PLEASE direct the proper port authority at all harbours on the Pacific coast to inform owners who are clearing or have cleared this year for Bebring's Sea that Her Majesty's Government and the United States' (jovernment liavc agreed, subject to the ratification of the Senate, to submit to arbitration the question whether sealers have a right, without permission of the United States, to seal in the eastern half of Bebring's Sea, east of the Russian lin(>, and that it is possible the sentence of the said Tribunal may be given within the present fisliing season. ^Moreover, that both Her Majesty's Government and the United States' Go\('rnment have made propositions for intermediate Regulations restraining the catch of seals in the; said waters in case the said Arbitration Agreement should be ratified. Neither the Arbitration Agreement nor any intermediate Agreement liav(i yet boon definitively adopted between the two Governments, and Avhethcr they arc; adopted, and at what date, is necessarily a matter of uncertainty. But notice is hereby given to all sealers proposing to seal in the said waters that they do so at their own risk, and after Avarning of the liability to inter- ruption to which they may be exposed in consequence of either of the said Agreements. No. 2.i3. Sir J, Pauncefote to the Marquis of Salisbury.* — {Received March 21.) My Lord, Washington, March 10, 1892. "WITH reference to my telegram of the Stii instant, I have the honour to inform your Lordship that I called by request at the State Department on Tuesday afternoon, where, owing to the illness of Mr. Blaine, I was received by Mr. Wharton, the Acting Secretary of State, who put into my liands a note, copy of which is inclosed herewith, containing the reply of the United States' Government to my notes of the 29th ultimo and 7th instant respectively, on the subject of the renewal of the modus Vivendi in Behring's Sea. Mr. Wharton informed me at the same time that he had been instructed by the President to request me to telegraph the whole of this note to your Lordship. 1 pointed out to Mr. Wharton tliat I could hardly telegraph verbatim a note of such great length, and he replied that he thought it would be sufficient to telegraph all the leading arguments contained in the note, wiiich I promised I would do. I have, &c. (Signed) JULIAN PAUNCEFOTE. * Subitanee telegraphed. e: h ' it ion for it the und lor led Irom decision between nelusioii. 3Usion oi' isels shall he owner itora may 8, 1892. [ic coast to a that Iler (ject to the "iilpvs have rii half of of the said ; hoth Her lositions for in case tho eonient nor •n the two ily a matter in the said ity to intcr- f the said 1-) 10, 1892. honour to on Tuesday iVharton, the is inclosed lotcs of the f the modus nstructed by dship. note of such ;rai)h all the CEFOTE. ^m m Inclosure in No. 243. Acting Secrftary Wharton to Sir J, Pauncefote. Sir, Department of State, Washington, March 8, 1892. I AM directed by the President to say, in reHponsc to your two notes of the 29th February and 7th March, that he notices with tiie deepest repret the indisposition of Her Majesty's Government to agree upon an effective modus for the preservation of the seals in the Behring's Sea pending the settlement of the respective tights of that Government and of tiie Government of the United States in these waters and in the fur- seal fisheries therein. The United States claims an exclusive right to take seals in a portion of the Behring's Sea, while Her Majesty's Government claims a common right to pursue and take the seals in those waters outside a .'l-miie limit. This serious and protracted controversy, it has now been happily agreed, shall be submitted to the determination of a Tribunal of Arbitration, and the Treaty only awaits the action of the American Senate. The judgment of the Arbitration Tribunal cannot, however, be reached and stated in time to control the conduct of the respective Governments and of their citizens during the sealing season of 1 892 ; and the urgent question now is, What does good faith, to say nothing of international comity, requi.e of the parties to the arbitration ? If the contention of tiiis Government is sustained by the Arbitrators, then any killing of seals by the Canadian sealers during this season in these waters is an injury to this Govern- ment in its jurisdiction and property. The injury is not measured by the skins taken, but affects the permanent value of our property. Was it ever heard before that one party to such a controversy, whether a nation or an individual, could appropriate the whole or any part of the income and profits, much less the body of the contested property, pending the litigation, without accountabilitv ? Usually a Court of Chancery would place a receiver or trustee in charge, and hold the income of the property for the benefit of the prevailing party. You say that Lord Salisbury, rejecting the illustration used by Mr. Blaine, "suggests that the case is more like one of arbitration respecting title to a meadow. While the arbitration is going on we cut the grass ; and quite rightly, for the grass will be reproduced next year, and so will the seals." He can hardly mean by this illustration that, being in contention with a neighbour regarding the title to a meadow, he could by any precedent in the Equity Courts or by any standard of common honesty be justified in pocketing the whole or any part of the gains of a harvest without accountability to the adverse claimant whose exclusive title was afterwards established. It is no answer for the trespasser to say that the true owner will have an undiminished harvest next year. Last year's harvest was his also. K by the use of the plural pronoun his Lordship means that the harvest of the contested meadow is to be divided between the litigants, I beg to remind him that the title of the United Stales to the Pribyloff Islands has not yet been contested, and that our flag does not float over any sealing-vessel. The illustration is inapt in the further particular that the seals not taken this year may be taken next, while the grass must be harvested or lost. This Government has already been advised in the course of this correspondence that Great Britain repudiates all obligations to indemnify the United States for any invasion of its jurisdiction, or any injury done to its sealing property by the Canadian sealers. The attempt to make a damage clause one of the Articles of the Arbitration Agreement failed, because Her Majesty's Government would not consent that the question of its liability to indemnify the United States for the injuries done by the Canadian sealers should be submitted. Two extracts from the correspondence will sufficiently recall the attitude of the respective Governments. In my note of the 23rd July I said : " The President believes that Her Majesty's Government may justly be held responsible, under the attendant circumstances, for injuries done to the jurisdictional or property rights of the United States by the sealing. "v^sels flying the British flag, at least since the date when the right of these vessels to invr.tl 1;he Behring's Sea and to pursue therein the business of pelagic sealing was made the K' >ject of diplomatic intervention by Lord Salisbury. In his opinion, justice .tqmr<M that Her Majesty's Government should respond for the injuries done by those Vi'ssels if their acts are found to have been wrongful, as fully as if each had borne a com mission from the Government to do the act complained of. The presence of the master, or even of a third person, under circumstances calculated and intended io give encouragement, creates a liability for trespass at the common law, and much more, if his presence is accompanied with declarations of right, protests against the defence [572T Y t k, I. ii; j|. ■ f IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) 1.0 I.I 125 ■^ Uii 1 2.2 us m |l.25 j 1.4 ,,.6 < 6" ► Photographic Sciences Corporation 23 VW3T H%»i %ir.K\' WnSTIR.N.V. WitO (716)172-4503 162 which the owner is endeavouring t(> mnke, and n dcctlared purpose to aid the trespassers if they are resisted. The justice of tliis rule is so apparent that it is not seen how, in the less technical Tribunal of an international arbitration, it could be held to be inapplicable. " The United States might well insist that Her Majesty's Government should admit responsibility for the acts of the Canadian sealers, which it lias so directly encouraged and promoted, precisely as in the proposal the United States admits responsibility for the acts of its revenue vessels. But, with a view to remove what seems to be the last point of difference in a discussion whicli has been very much protracted, the President is willing to modify his proposal, and directs me to offer the following : — "The Government of Great Britain having presented the claims of its subjects for compensation for the seizure of their vessels by the United States in Behring's Sea ; and the Government of the United States having presented, on its own behalf as well as of the lessees of the privilege of taking seals on the PaibylofT Islands, claims for compensa* tion by reason of the killing of seals in the Behring's Sea by persons acting under the protection of the British flag, the Arbitrators shall consider and decide upon such claims in accordance with justice and equity, and the respective rights of the High Contracting Powers, and it shall be competent for the Arbitrators to award such compensation as, in their judgment, shall seem equitable." In your note of the 17th October you say : — "I regret to inform you that Her Majesty's Government, after the fullest con- sideration, have arrived at the conclusion that this new clause could not properly be assented to by them. In their opinion, it implies an admission of a doctrine respecting the liabilities of Governments for the acts of their nationals or other persons sailing under their flag on the high seas, for which there is no warrant in the law of nations. Thus it contains the following words : — " ' The Government of the United States having presented on its own behalf, as well as of the lessnes of the privilege of taking seals on the Pribylyff Islands, claims for compensation by reason of the killing of seals in Behring's Sea by persons acting under the protection of the British flag, the Arbitrators shall consider and decide upon such claim.' "These words involve the proposition that Her Majesty's Government are liable to make good losses resulting from the wrongful action of persons sailing outside their jurisdiction under the British flag. Her Majesty's Government could not accept such a doctrine." The President cannot believe that, while holding this view of its accountability, the Government of Great Britain will, pending the arbitration, countenance, much less justify or defend, the continuance of pelagic sealing by its subjects. It should cither assume responsibility for the acts of these sealers, or restrain them from a pursuit the lawfulness of which is to be determined by the arbitration. In your note of the 29th February you state tliat Her Majesty's Government has been itaformed by the British Commissioners " that, so far as pelagic sealing is concerned, there is no danger of serious diminution of the fur-seal species as a consequence of this year's hunting," and upon this ground Lord Salisbury places his refusal to renew the modus of last year. His Lordship seems to assume a determination of the arbitration against the United States and in favour of Great Britain, and that it is already only a question of so regulating a common right to take scols as to preserve the species ; by what right docs he do this ? Upon what principle does he assume that if our claims are established, any diminution of the seals, whether serious or not, during this season, or indeed, any taking of seals, is to be without recompense 'r' In the oj)inion of the President, it is not consistent with good faith that either party to an arbitration should, pending a decision, in any degree diminish the value of the subject of arbitration or take any profit from the use of it without an agreement to account. Before an agreement for arbitration had been reached, the prohibition of pelagic sealing was a matter of comity ; from the moment of the signing of that Agreement it became, in bis opinion, a matter of obligation. During the season of 1891, notwithstanding the restrictions .\.-sult:ng from the modun adopted, the Canadian sealers took, in the Behring's Sea alone, 28,763 skins, or nearly four times as many as the restricted catch upon our island. This Government is now advised that fifty-one vessels from British Columbia and sixteen from Nova Scotia have sailed, or are about to sail, for the Behring's Sea to engage in taking seals. This large increase in the fleet engaged makes it certain, in the absence of an effective restrictive agreement, that the destruction of seal life during this season by pelagic sealing will be unprecedented, and will, in the opinion of our Commissioners, so nearly destroy the ■■■•I aid the i not Hcen Held to be juld admit ncouragcd ity for the last point it is willing ubjects for B Sea ; and 8 well as of ■ compensa- undcr the such claims Contracting sation aa, in fullest con- properly be le respecting rsons sailing K of nations. urn behalf, as ds, claims for acting under le upon such jnt arc liable outside their accept such a mtability, the ec, much less should cither [om a pursuit Iment has been icerned, there of this year's iw the modus ion against the Inly a question by what right ire established, [)r indeed, any ddent, it is not [ng a decision, my profit from lion of iwlagic Agreement it Ifrom the modun Tskins, or nearly Irnment is now Lva Scotia have tls. This large kive reotrictiyc tic sealing will my destroy the value of the seal fisheries as to make wliat will remain of so little value as scarcely to bo a worthy subject for international arbitration. The proposition of Lord Salisbury, to prohibit i\w killing of seals at sea " within a zone extending to not more than 30 nautical miles around tiio Pribyloff Islands," is so obviously inadequate and so impossible of execution that this Government cannot enter- tain it. In the early part of the discussion of tl u sulycct of a modus for last year this method was tentatively suggested, among others, in conversation between yourself and Mr. Blaine. But it was afterwards, in effect, agreed by both Governments to be inadequate, and was not again referred to in he correspondence. In the Memorandum furnished by you with your note of the GUi June you say, •' Tiord Salisbury points out that if seal hunting be i»rohil)ited on one side of a purely imaginary line drawn in the open ocean, while it is permitted on the other side of the line, it will be impossible in many cases to prove unlawful sealing, or to infer it from the possession of skins or fishing tackle." This was said with reference to the water boundary of our purchase from Russia, but it is quite as applicable to the 30-miIe zone which he now suggests. The prevalence of fogs in these waters gives increased force and conclusiveness to the point made by his Lordship against an imaginary water-line. The President cannot agree, now that the terms of arbitration have been settled, that the restrictions imposed shall Itc less than those which both Governments deemed to be appropriate when it was still uncertain wliethcr an early adjustment of the controversy was attainable. He therefore hopes that Her Majesty's Government will consent to renew the arrangement of last year with the promptness which the exigency demands, and to agree to enforce it by refusing all clearances to sealing-vessels for the prohibited waters, and by recalling from those waters all such vessels as have already cleared. This Government will honourably abide the judgment of the High Tribunal which has been agreed upon, whether that judgment be favourable or unfavourable ; and will not seek to avoid a just responsibility for any of its acts which by that judgment are found to be unlawful. But certainly the United States cannot be expected to suspend the defence, by such means as are within its power, of the property and jurisdictional rights claimed by it pending the arbitration, and to consent to receive them from that Tribunal, if awarded, shorn of much of their value by the acts of irresponsible persons. I have, &c. (Signed) WILLIAM F. WHaBTON. , , No. 2-l<4. Sir J. Pauncefote to the Marquis uf Salisbury. — {Received March 24.) (Tolegraijhic.) yVashington, March 23, 1892. ii.VST night I received the reply of the United States' iJovornment to my note (Mnlu)dying the substance of your Lordship's tt'lcgrnni of the ISth instant on the Behring's Sea (|nesti(in. The Pii'sideiit iccjuested that it should be telegraphed to your Lordsliip. The sulKslanee of it is as foUows : — The PresidiMit had <,'ivcii iinnicdiatc attention lo my note, on account of the extreme gmvily ami nriicncy ol the matter, icrowiug out of the fact that any modua vivendi will be made inell'eotiial tor the protection of the interests of the United States by much further protraction, and that, by reason of tiie impossibility of commu- uieating with the Canadian sealers, immunity will be given to them. These vessels have hastened their departure, as is known, in ord r to esaipo notice of any modu« vivendi being served upon them. L'orty-seven vesnels have already cleared, and if measures l)e. not taken to stop them, tin'y will pursue t\w slaughter of gravid female seals to tlie very shores of t he breeding islands. This is a crime against nature. If the arbitration proceeds, the United States' Government expect to be able to show that the larger percentage of tb(> pelagic catch consists of fen'ale se-als. It is surprising and disappointing, in view of the above, that yo\ir Lordship should assume that suspensicm c)f such sealing i'or another year is not necessary, in order to prevent the undue diminution of the seal-herds, and that you should insist tliat it shouhl continue. If ller Majesty's (iovernmeut pays so little, regard t«) the contentions of the Unitcnl States' (iovernment as to refuse to respect them for a single season, the President is unable to understand for what reason it should have been proposed and agreed to by your Lordshi[) to give 'hem tlie status implied by the agreement to submit them to arbitration. It was open to ni.'ither party to disregard the contention of the other from tie date of the signature of the above Agreement. It must be n . I [572] Y 2 104 assumed that the object which the two GovernmontM liad in view was the promotion of good-will and peace but ; if, while arbitration is pending, the subject-mutter is dealt with by either of them on the basis of its own contention only, this purpose is not attaineid; on the contrary, and even if it should Ix^ {lossible under such circumstances to proceed with the arbitration, n now sense of injury and injustice is added. If Her Majesty's Government proceeds this season on the I)asis of its contention as to the rights of the Canadian sealers, no choictt remains for the United States but to proceed on the basis of their own confident contention, that pcla{;ic scaling is an infraction of its jurisdiction and proprietary rights. This, in the opinion of the President, constitutes the gravity of the situation, and he is not willing to be found responsible for such results as may follow from an insistance on the part of either Government during this hunting season on the extreme rights claimed by it. The two great Governments interested in the question would be discredited in the eyes of the world if the friendly adjustment of their difficulties, which is so nearly concluded, were to be thwartecf, or even disturbed, on account of the paltry profits of a single season. But if your Lordship persists in refusing to join the Government of the United States in stopping pelagic scaling promptly, and insists upon the maintenance of free sealing for British subjects, the question no longer is one of pecuniary 1o9b or gain, but one of honour and sclf-n>8pect, so far as it affects the Government of the United States. The United States have jiroposed to take no profit from the island catch, notwith- standing that their right to take seals on the islands is neither disputed nor involved in the arbitration, and to engage that the take should bo limited to the necessities of the natives. Whether with or without indemnity, they are unable to consent that the rights of British subjects in Bebring's Se.i, which are contested, shall continue to be exercised while arbitrtition is ponding. Tho President finds it difficult to believe that your liordship is serious in proposing that bonds against the injury which may be inflicted on the jurisdiction or property «>f the United States shall be taken by the United States' Government from tho ownoi-s of about 100 Canadian vessels, and he must decline to discuss a suggestion which only his respect for your Lordship, and his belief that the gravity of this discussion is fully r«>ali7.o(l by your Lordship, enables him to treat seriously. In order to secure the proposed bonds, fho United St^vtos would have to pursue owners upon the sea, and as the condition is t^) be tiiat " any damages which the Arbitrators shall adjudge" shall bo paid by the owners, while no jKJwer to adjudge such damagt»s is given to tho Arbitrators by the Treaty, the transaction would be of no value to the United States, and without risk to the owners. But however adequate the security offered, the United States' Government cannot consent to have its rights impaired, pending their determination by a Tribunal of Arbitration. The reference in Mr. Blaine's last note to the inconsistency of Her Majesty's Government in denying responsibility for the acts of Canadian sealers was not meant to imply that tho United States would be willing to consent to the conversion of their property into a claim for damages, particularly as the Arbitrators cannot determine such a claim unless the Treaty be revised. Your Lordship should bear in mind, whilst making your present proposal, t'uat the fact of the Arbitrators not having jurisdiction as to damages is the result of concessions made by the United States' Government to your views. The President fails to see how claims can, by law or equity, be brought by subjects of either Power against their respective Governments, on account of restraints imposed with a view to tho promotion of the public good or of international peace. There is full provision in the Treaty itself against tho suggestion, that tho conclusion of the arbitration will not bo reached before the season of 1893. As to the Uelagoa Bay Arbitration, your Lordship is in error in thinking that it has been proceeding for four years. It dates from a period of less than one year ago. If tho Treaty is promptly ratified, mutual interests will be a sufficient guarantee against delay. The sole obstacle to such a consummation is the prevalent belief, that Great Britain's refusal to preserve the status quo of tho property, and her insistance on continuance of pelagic sealing during the arbitration, to the injury of the rights of the United States, largely defeats the object for which the Treaty was mode. The note ends with the following words : " The President directs me to say, in conclusion, that the modwt vivendi of last year is the least that this Government can accept. In reason, the restraints after a Treaty of Arbitration should be more absolute, not less. He does not desire to protract the discussion, and having now, in the most friendly spirit, submitted tho considerations which support the just demand of this GoTomment, that the property which is now the subject of an agreed arbitration 165 romotion of tter is dealt p()8c! is not cumstances i. mtention as Atos but to in infraction ! President, , be found rt of either it. The two ) eyes of the f concluded, ) of a single ment of the maintenance iniary loss or imcnt of the tch, notwith- nor involved necessities of tsent that the mtinue to be J believe that rhich may be taken by the ;s8els, and he iship, and his [), enables him avc to pursue psa which the er to adjudge 1 would be of rever adequate lavo its rights 10 reference in nt in denying lilt the United ito a claim for ,im unless the g your present lamages is the ews. »ht by subjects iraints imposed eace. There is iiclusion of the n Delagoa Bay eeding for four ityis promptly le sole obstacle asal to preserve pelagic sealing largely defeats ;cts me to say, lovemment can hould be more id having now, the just demand " arbitration shall not 'oe subject vo spoliation pending the arbitration, he expresses the hope that Lord Salisbury will give a prompt and friendly assent to the renewal of the modu$ Vivendi. The President will hoar with regn't that llcr Majesty's Govj'rnment continues to assert a right to deal with tliis subj(!ct precisely as if no provision had boon made for the settlement of the dispute ; and in tiint event, this Government, as has already been pointed out, will he compelled to deal with tlie subject upon the s^mc basis, and to use every means in its pr)wer to protect from destruction or serious injury property and jurisdictional rights which it iios long claimed and enjoyed." No. 246. The Marquit of Salisbury to Sir J. Paunci;fote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, March 20, 1892. IN reply to your telegram of the 23rd instant. Notice has been given to the owners of ships sailing for Behring's Sea, that both the Agreements which are at present under discussion between Great Britain and the United States — that as to Arbitration and that as to an intermerliate arrange- ment — may affect the liberty of sealing in Behring's Sea. They have, therefore, notice of their liability to possible interruption, and will sail subject to that notice. The question of time is not, therefore, urgent. Inform President that we concur in thinking that when the Treaty shall havi; been ratified there will arise a new state of things. Until it is ratified our conduct is governed by the language of your :iote of the 14th June, 1800. But when it is ratified both parties must admit that contingent rights have become vested in the other, which both desire to protect. We think that the prohibition of sealing, if it stands alone, will be unjust to l>ritish sealers, if the decision of the Arbitrators should be adverse to the United States. We are, however, willing, when the Trcavy has been ratified, to agree to an arrangement similar to tlmt of last year, if the United States will consent that tho Arbitrators should, in tho 3vent of a decision adverse to the Unit<Ml States, assess the damages which the prohibition of scaling shall have inflicted on British sealers during the jrendency of tho Arbitration ; and, in the event of a decision adverse to Great Britain, should assess tho damages which the limitation of slaughter shall, during the pendency of the Arbitration, have inflicted on the United States or its lessees.' As . an alternative course we are also willing, after the ratification of the Ti-caty, to prohibit sealing in the disputed waters, if vessels be excepted from the prohibition which produce certificate that they liave given security for such damages as the Arbitrators may assess, in case of a decision arlverse to Gr'^at Britain ; the Arbitrators to receive the necessary authority in tliat behalf. In this case the restriction of slaughter on tho islands will not, in point of equity, be necessary. Her Majesty's Government are unable to see any other than one of these two methods of restricting seal-hunting in the disputed waters during the Arbitration, which w"ll bo equitable to botli parties. No. 246. 1 -. The Marquis of Salisbury to Sir J. Pauncefote. (Telegraphic.) Foreign Office, March 26, 1892. WITH further reference to your telegram of the 23rd instant. I am not prepared to admit, as I gather that the President thinks, that we have objected to the Arbitrators having jurisdiction as to damages inflicted in the past by the party against whom the award is given. I only objected to make Her Majesty's Government liable for acts which they have not committed. I am ready to consent to a reference on this point in the following terms : — That in case the Arbitrators shall decide in favour of the British Government, that Government may ask them, further, to decido whether tho United States' Government have since 1886 taken any action in Behring's Sea directly inflicting a wrongful loss on British subjects, and, if so, to assess the damage incurred thereby. That in case the Arbitrators shall decide in favour of the Government of the United States, that Government may ask them to decide, further, whether the British Government have since 1883 taken any action in Behring's Sea directly inflicting a wrongful loss on tho United States or its lessees, and, it so, to assess the damage incurred thereby. 166 APPENDIX. Colonial Office to Foreign Office. — {Received March 2.) Sir, Downing Street, March 2, 1892. WITH reference to previous correspondence, 1 am directed by Lord Knutsford to transmit to you, to be laid berore the Marquis of Salisbury, a copy of a despatch from the Goyernor-General of Canada, forwarding copy of an Order in Council, to which are appended affidavits taken before the Collector of Customs at Victoria, British Columbia, with regard to certain points in connection with pelagic sealing. I am, &c. (Signed) JOHN BRAMSTON. Inclosuro 1. Lord Stanley of Preston to Lord Knutsford. My Lord, Government House, Ottawa, February 10, 1892. 1 HAVE the honour to transmit herewith, for your Lordship's information, copy of an Order in Council, to which are appended aflidavits taken before the Collector of Customs at Victoria, British Columbia, with regard to certain points in connection with pelagic sealing. Copy of the Order in Council has l)een sent tn Her Majesty's^ Minister at Washington for communication to the Bchring's Sea Commissioners. I have, &c. (Signed) STANLEY OF PRESTON. Inclosure2. Report of a Committee of the\Honourable the Privy Council, approved by his Excellency the Governor-General in]Council on the 9th February, 1892. ON a Report, dated the 1st February, 1892, from the Minister'of Marine and Fisheries, stating that, upon the receipt of a letter from the Behring's Sea Commis- sioners, Sir George Baden-Powell and Dr. George M. Dawson, asking for additional documentary evidence regarding certain points which have been put forward a'.i'>ng the main indictments of pelagic sealing, he communicated with the Collector of Customs at Victoria, with a view to eliciting information on the following points : — 1. The proportion of seals lost as compared with those hit in pelagic sealing. 2. The proportion of females to males in the number killed in the different fishing seasons. 3. The abstention of Canadians from all raiding on the seal islands. The appended atiidavits, taken before A. R. Milne, Collector of Customs at Victoria.fhave been received from the following parties: — Cereno Jones Kelley, master of the schooner " C. H. Tupper." Captain William Petit, master and part owner schooner " Mischief." Captain Wentworth Evelyn Baker, master schooner " C. H. Tupper," and formerly master of schooner "Viva." Clarence Nelson Cox, master of schooner " E. B. Marvin." Captain Alfred Bissett, master of schooner " Annie E. Paint." Captain Theodore M. Magnesen, in command of schooner " Walter A. Earl." Henry Crocker, hunter on board schooner " Annie E. Paint." George Roberts, hunter on board schooner " Annie E. Paint." Richard Thomson, hunter on board schooner " Annie E. Paint." Andrew Laing, seal hunter. William Cox, master schooner " Sapphire." The Minister recommends that copies of these aflidavits be transmitted to the Behring's Sea Commissioners without delay. *ii**P«ap HP I 2, 1892. I Knutsford a despatch Council, to it Victoria, ic sealing. .MSTON. 10. 1892. information, before the rtain points Minister at RESTON. Excellency the Marine and )ca Coinmis- >r additional ward a'.'>'^ng le Collector le following c sealing, le different !!)u8toins at ipper," and • A. Karl. 167 The Committee, on the recommendationof the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, advise that your Kxcellency be moved to forward a copy hereof to the Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies for the information of Her Majesty's Government. All of which is respectfully submitted for your Excellency's approval. (Signed) JOHN J. McGEE, Clerk of the Privy Council. Inclosuro 8. Mr. Milne to Mr. Tupper. Sir, Customx, Canada, Victoria, B.C., January 22, 1892. I HAVK the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your communication of the 7th instant, relative to a joint letter from Sir George Baden-Powell and Dr. George M. Dawson, Behring's Sea Commissioners. I beg to state that I have endeavoured to supply the information, and herewith transmit the first lot of affidavits of some of the most reliable of our scaling men, and I am continuing to take all I can obtain, which will be forwarded from day to day. 1 trust the information is what is wanted, as I have endeavoured to frame the questions so that the answers would show reasons for their intelligent answers on the three questions : — 1. The proportion of seals lost as compared with hit. 2. The proportion of females to males killed in the different months. 3. The abstention of Canadians from all raiding, &c. I have, &c. ' (Signed) A. U. M.lhNE, Collector. ' ' Inclosure 4. ' Depositions taken before A. R. Milne, Collector of Customs, Port of Victoria, B.C. H. mitted to the CERENO JONKS KELLP:Y, master of the Canadian schooner "C Tupper," of Slielbnurne, Nova Scotia, having been dfuly sworn : — 1. Mr. Milne. — How many years have you been engaged in sealing. Captain Kelley ? — A. I have been sealing for two years as master of the "C. H. Tupper." 2. Q. Have your voyages been reasonably fortunate, in comparison with those of other vessels? — A. About an average. 3. Q. Have you gone south of Cape Flattery in hunt for seals ? — A. Yes, Sir ; and have followed the seals all along the coasts of British Columbia to Behring's Sea. 4. Q. During last year, to your observation, were the seals as plentiful from the coast to Shumagin Islands as they were the previous year? — A. 1 think there was no material diHerence. 5. Q. Did the seals last year appear to be frightened or more timorous than in previous years on account of the number of vessels ? — A. I observed no material difference. 6. Q. In shooting seals, what is your experience? — A. My experience is that unless a seal is mortally wounded — hit in a vital spot — it is practically uninjured, and appears to be as full of vitality as before it was shot. The shot-wounds will rapidly close up, if not made in a vital part, and the seal will swim away as though nothing had happened. The Row of blood stops very quickly, and the seal moves off at a very rapid rate. I picked shot from the bodies of seals, previously wounded in other than a vital part, and the animal in every other way appeared to be in a healthy condition. 7. Q. So you believe that a seal when shot, if not mortally wounded, does not sink or seek a place — a rookery, or some place to die ? — A. A wounded seal will not alter its course in the slightest. It will go along the same as before, its wound healing rapidly, very rapidly, too. It is astonishing how quickly such wounds will heal. I once shot a seal which had been speared by Inaiaas, and the spear had fa^*?aS iisii ^*^SXS7-..,. 168 made an apparently mortal wound. There was a cut ^bout 2i bv 3 inches a little above the side behind the flipper. This wound ap^jeared to nave been made about three days previously, and in that time it nad healed half an inch all round. 6. Q. Are there more seals shot sleeping than in motion f—A. I should say that the larger proportion of seals are shot whilst sleeping, that is, as far as my own experience goes. 9. Q. What do you consider the vital part of a seal? Where do the hunters aim Tor generally — the head or the heart V — A. It depends largely upon the position or the seal. The vital parts are in the head, in the vicinity or the heart, and, ir a seal is shot so as to bleed internally, the hunters are sure oi' securing it. The head is the usual mark. 10. Q. What is usually a safe shoriting distance? — A. It depends largely upon the circumstances of the case. Somewhere between lU and HO yards would be about the distance. I should say that it is the average with sleeping or travelling seals. The sleeping sen! is often approached to within even less than iO yards, but the average is from 10 to 20 yards for sleeping seal, and from 10 to 30 yards for travellers 11. Q. The seal is very sensitive, is it not? — A. Yes; we have to approach them from the leeward always. Their sense of smell is verv acute. 12. Q. Do tl'.e seals generally travel far when wounded ? — A. That will depend upon where it is wounded. If it is vitally wounded in the head, it will hardly move from its position, for it is likely to die right there, but it will not sink. This is from my own observation. There is only one way that a seal will sink after being shot, that is, when it is shot in such a manner as to be thrown backwards, sinking tail first, thus allowing the air to escape out of its mouth. I might say, further, that I have never seen a seal sink which was shot while sleeping. 18. Q. Will you state the proportion of seals lost ns compared with those hit in sealing? — A. My own personal experience during the past two years is that my loss by seals sinking would not average 3 per cent. During last year (1891) I actually lost only two seals out of seventy-seven— that is, I shot seventy-nine, and stcured seventy-seven. l<). Q. In hunting seals, what is the direction in which they usually travel? — A. In the spring months they are leisurely travelling towards the north, when they change their position. \C}. Q. In hunting seals, have you ever met with pups in the water? — A. Not generally ; but during the season of 1890, while oiT Middleton Island, the hunters reported seeing two seal pups, probably a week old, but they appeared to be only just l)orn. 16. Q. What is your opinion of the proportion of males to femt^!^^ killed during the hunting season ? Are there any months in the year when there are more females than males killed ? — A. It depends upon circumsiances. My expe- rience is that groups of bachelor bulls will travel togetlier, and sometimes groups of females, including barren cows, will travel together, and again groups of yearling pups apparently travel together. That is my experience, and tne experience of a number of others. The catch of any schooner coming into contact with groups of Dulls, or of females, would be no criterion of the catch of other schooners as regards the number of females. In the year 1890, while in Behrin^'s Sea, one day wo took seventy-five seals, and the next day we took eighty, and in the whole of that number I observed only one female, and the hunters particularly informed me that they did not see any female seals at all ; that they were all vigorous young bulls. 17. Q. Would anything lead you to think, Captain Kelley, that there is a likelihood of more females than males being killed between here and Shumagin Islands? That is, from January to June?— i4. I can safely say that my personal experience has been on the side of the males, largely — both on the coast and in the Behring's Sea the number of seals caught is made up largely of males. 18. Q. Are there any months of the year during which there are more females caught than males ? — A. 1 should say that, as far as my own observation has gone, there is no difference ; but in every month, during my voyages, I have had more males than females. 19. Q. Do you know of any Canadian vessels who have raided the seal islands during anv year in which you have been engaged in the sealing industry ? — A. 1 have every reason to believe that none of the Canadian fleet have over raided, or attempted to raid, or made any preparations to raid, any seal islandi in the IS lies a littU leen made ,n inch all Id say that 18 my own ^he hunters he position ■t, and, ir a The head irgcly up«>n B would be r travelling II 10 yards, 30 yards Tor ',o approach will depend hardly move This is from r being shot, sinlting tail irther, that I ii those hit in 8 is that my ear (1891) I nty«nine, and lUy travel ? — h, when they tcr? — A. Not I, the hunters ed to be only jm*.'.^^ killed len there are My expe- _;limes groups )s of yearling >ericnce of a th groups of rs as regards day \vu took that number that they did s. lat there is a nd Shumagin ^t my personal mat and in the more females ition has gone, ave had more ,he seal islands dustry?— il. I over raided, or islands in the U9 liehring's Sea. If any such a thing hnd happened, I should mo8t certainly have heard of it, and I believe it to !>« true Ihnt tno American schooners "George U. White" and " Daniel Webster" did raid these islaiuls, as also the " Mollio Adams" That they did raid tiiu sei*' islands is a fact well known to all Canadian scalers. I also heard that the (Jcrm a sehooner " Adele" raided the PribylolT Islands, which action met with the stronj;; disapprobation of every Canadian scaler. (SigntHl) C. J. KELLEY. Hworn to at Victoria, British Columbia, this 22nd day of January, 1892. (Signed) A. R. Milne, Collector of Cusloms. Before A. R. Milne, Collector of Customs, Victoria, B.C., January 23, 1892. Captain William Petit, present master and part owner of the steamer " Mischief," having been sworn : — 1. Q. {Mr. Milne.) — Captain Petit, how many years have you been engaged in sealing? — A. Six years, Sir. 2. Q. Continuously? — A. Yes, Sir. 3. Q. What vessels did you command ? — A. In 1SS6 I commanded the " W. P. Say ward." in 188" the steamer "(J race," in 1888 the schooner " Sapphire," and in 1889, 1890, and 1891 the " Mary Taylor." 4. Q. Have your catches during these six years been reasonably successful in comparison with other vessels? — A. About an average. 5. Q. You have sealed south of Cape P'hittcry, have you not, and followed the seals along the coast ufHritish Cotumltia and into Hchring's Sea?— ^4. Yes. 5*. Q. During last year, to your observation, were the seals apparently as ()lentiful from the coast to Shumagin Islands as they were in previous years? — A. I bund them more plentiful last year than I have a'iy other year since 1886, that is, Cape Flattery, north. 6. Q. Mow did you find them in Uehring's Sea? — A. I found them there in Behring's Sea as plentiful as in former years. 7. Q. Are the seals now more frightened or more timorous than they have been on accountof more vessels, or from any other cause? — A. I have seen no material difference. 8. Q. In shooting seals, what is your experience ? — A. My experience is that unless a seal is mortally wounded — hit in the head or in the region of the heart — the shot docs not appear to injure it. 9. Q. Do you believe thai a seal, when shot, and not mortally wounded, does not sink, or seeks some place to die — a rookery, or some such place? — A. No, Sir; a wounded seal will not alter its course in the slightest. It will move along as before, its wound licaling rapidly. 10. Q. What do you consider the vital part of a seal ? Where do the hunters generally aim for ? — A. For the i-ead or the heart ; it deiends upon the position of the seal, but usually the head. 11. Q. What is the distance at which you shoot seals? — A. It depends upon circumstances. 12. Q. Are more seals shot while sleeping than in motion ? — A. There are more shot sleeping, Sir. It is my opinion that the larger proportion of seals are shot while sleeping. The seals taken by the Indians arc nearly all killed wnile sleeping. 13. Q. What is the shooting distance? — A. It depends upon circumstances; 10 to 20 yards for sleepers, and a little more, 10 to 30 yards, for travellers. 14. Q. You have seen the hunters and Indians approach even nearer than 10 yards, have you ?— ^i. Yes, I have seen them approach to within less than 10 feet. 15. Q. \/hen seals arc vitally wounded, say in the head, will they move far from the position in which they arc shot? — A. No, Sir. 16. Q. They are likely to die right there, are they ? — A. Yes, Sir. 17- Q. And tliey will not sink ? — A. With few exceptions, such as when a seal is shot and thrown backwards, thus allowing the air to escape out of its mouth. 18. Q. Will you state your opinion. Captain Petit, of the proportion of seal lost by sinking after being shot? — A. My personal experiencs during last season with white hunters would not exceed 5 per cent., and with Indians in former years I f672] Z 170 doubt if it amoiintH to even 1 per cent. The reason of this percentage in favour of Indians ih iK'causc tliey were cangiit with a spear, and consequently could not get away. 19. Q. Have you ever seen a seal shot wliile sleeping sink? — A. I have never known one to sink. 20. Q. Then you are clearly of the opinion that seals will not sink for some time unless thrown backwards? — A. lam. When they do sink, even to 10 or 15 feet, they can be reached with the gaff. 21. Q. When the hunters re»urn to the vessel at night, do they usually discuss their day's proceedings, and particularly mention the loss of seals, when such loss occurs ? — A. Yes. 22. Q. Then, Captain Petit, you conscientiously adhere to the statement that the loss by sinking of seals hit will not exceed f) per cent. ? — A. I certainly do ; but there are seals hit and not mortally wounded, and these escape, but they are not "lost," as they are quite as vigorous as before, because their wounds heal very rapidly. I have often found shot in the skin. 23. Q. What is your opinion of the proportion ol females to males killed during the last hunting season ? — A. Last year, oul of my catch of 7G5, I had only 18 females carrying young — not quite 2J per cent. Of course, as in other seasons' catches, we had a nundier of barren cows — about the usual run, 10 per cent., and 12^ per cent, of grey |)ups. These grey pups are always bulls, and one year old. 24. Q. Your catch, then, woidd be about 75 per cent, of males last season ? — A. Yes, Sir; including the yearlings it was more than 75 percent. 25. Q. You say grey pups are always males; will you explain this ?— i4. The Indians called my attention to this fact years ago, but the reason is not quite known, still it is a fact. I have observed very closely, and have never yet seen a female grey pup one year old. I try to account for this by the supposition that the yearling grey male pups arc driven early out of Behring's Sea by the old bulls. 20. Q. Last year, did you hear any remarks about the number or proportion of the males lo females caught, from any one or any source? — A. Yes, Sir; I heard that a much larger percentage of males were caught last year than in any former ye-ir. 27. Q. I would ask you, Captain Petit, if in any former years there was a similar preponderance of males — (lo you remember of any such fact? — A. Yes, I do. In 1880, when off Barclay Sound, in one day we had taken 104 seals, of which 3 only were females. In the following year, 1887, when off Portlock Bank, we took 79 in one day, and only 2 females were found in that number. 28. Q. How do seal cows travel? Singly or in pairs? — A. They travel singly or in pairs. 2'J. Q. How do bulls travel ? — A. They travel in bands, as do also the bull pups. They travel singly too. 30. Q. Are female seals carrying young very timid? — A. Yes, Sir; they are. They sink their bodies so that nothing but their noses and eyes are out of water, and are therefore smaller marks for the hunters. 31. Q. Barren cows travel with bulls, do they? — A. Yes, Sir; barren cows usually travel with the bulls. .32. Q. Are there any months in the year during which there are more females than males killed ? Any particular time that you have observed ? — A. No, Sir. 33. Q. It it your candid opinion that there are more barren cows killed than seal-bearing cows? — A. Yes, Sir; I think there are more. 34. Q. Do these barren cows, from the knowledge vou have of seals — do you think that they ever become bearing? — A. I think they do. 35. Q. That they will have periods of bearing? — A. I don't think that a seal will bear before she is 4 years old. 36. Q. How long does a seal carry her young?— .^4. It is understood to be eleven months. 37. Q. Were there any circumstances occurred to you upon your last voyage which would indicate a marked decrease in the number of seals ? — A. None what- ever, Sir. On the contrary, I should say there were more. There seemed to be more last year, at least we saw more that year than for several years previously. 38. Q. In your observation as to the habits of the seals, they appear to be like the salmon — that they return from no known cause in larger numbers ? — Well, I don't know, Sir ; 1 think that they have their annual migrations ; but there is question whether they follow the same track every year. You will find them on somv grounds one year, and in other years on other grounds. «p n favour ol uld not get have never r some time 15 feet, they illy ciiscubs n such loss temcnt that nly do ; but hey are not Is heal very {illed during had only 18 ;hcr seasons' ent.,and 12^ .r old. jt season ? — is?— J. The quite known, leen a female , the yearling portion of the I heard that 'ormcr ye.\r. was a similar 'cs, I do. In of which 3 lank, wc took travel singly [he bull pups. ir; they are. out of water, barren cows more females No, Sir. vs killed tlian icals— do you ik that a seal srstood to be ir last voyage I. None what- secmeil to be jreviously. )ear to be like ers ?— Well, I ere is question hein on somv 171 39. Q. Po vou think that the number of female seals killed in the hunt in iiiatcrially injurfng thu reproduction of seals':' — A. \o, Sir. to. Q. Can you give a reason for that ? — A. Kroni the small percentage ( f females killed, 1 don't think it would injure reproduction in any way. H. Q. Were vou in Beliring'sSea last year, and were you ordered out ? — A. And was ordered out by the United States' ship " Corwin." -Ji'. Q. Ik'fore being ordered out, what was your usual lisliinfr distance from land ?—A. 00 to 100 miles. (3. Q. You found steals all along that distance from land? — A. Yes, in large numbers. ii. Q. You had the prospects of a fair catch ? — A. Yes, Sir ; I ha I the prospects of a very fair catcii up to the time 1 was warned ? ^5. Q. You consider it a very material loss, being warned at the time out of Behring's Sea > — A, I do. Sir ; 1 consider it a very heavy loss. 40. Q. You still adhere to tha statement that the seals lietween CO and 100 miles from land were as plentiful as in any previous years in your experience ? — A. As plentiful as they were in any year since I88(J. 47. Q. Did you observe in your catch in Ilehring's Sea any preponderance of females over males, or rice vcmd ?—A. Yes, Sir ; the males were in excess. "18. Q. Can you state from recollection an average day's hunt in Behring's Sea ? — A. Forty-eight was about the largest I nuule while in Behring's Sea. 49. Q. Do you remember hearing any of the hunters speak of losing any seals by sinking ? — A. No, Sir ; I don't remember any instances of such loss. oO. Q. Did you cross from tlie American side of the Behring's Sea into the Russian side V — A. No, I didn't, I came straight home to Victoria through Ounimak Pass. 51. Q. During the year, did you hear from any source that any Canadian vessels had raided the seal islands or any of them? — A. No, Sir; I never heard of any British or Canadian vessels, not during the past year, or any year I have been engaged in sealing. 52. Q. Captain Petit, <lo you believe anv of the stories that are told about the "Geo. R. White," the " Daniel Webster," and the " Mollie Adams" raiding these islands? — A. Yes, Sir ; I believe those reports. 53. Q. These were all American vessels, were they iu)t .' — A. Yes, Sir. 54. Q. Durmg the last two years it is reported that the American schooners " J. Hamilton Lewis," formerly the British schooner " Aula," and the " City of San Diego," raided the Copper Islands? — A, Yes, Sir. 53. Q. Do you believe that is true? — A. 1 do. Sir; and also in 1886 or 1887, the American schooner "Look-out," raided the Pribyloff Islands, so that the history of raiding the seal islands is peculiarly American, and solely by American schooners. 66. Q. Was not the British schooner " Aula" seized by the American Clovern- ment and sold ? — A. Yes, Sir. In 1887, and renamed the "J. Hamilton Lewis." 57. Q. Is not this same vessel, the "J. Hamilton Lewis," the same vessel as was seized by the Russians tiiis year, in the vicinity of Copper Island ? — A. Yes, Sir ; and served her right too. 58. Q. If any of the Canadian vessels had raided either the American or Russian seal iblands, your long experience in the sealing fleet here would have insured your being aware of it? — A. Yes, Sir; I should certainly have heard of it — learned it from hunters, masters, or seamen. It wouUl have been sure to have leaked out. 50. Q. Is it your opinion thai ship-masters or ship-owners have been most careful in instructing their masters or captains to avoid any interference what- ever with the seal islands ? — A. I have served with dilferent owners, and I have been instructed to carefully avoid approaching the islands within the international limit In fact, all the sealing 1 have conducted has been done outside at least of the 20 miles from land. Mr. Milne. — That will do. Captain Petit, Thank vou very much. (Signed) WILLIAlil PETIT, Master. 1892. Sworn to before me, at Victoria, British Columbia, this 23rd day of January, (Signed) A. R. Miln£, Collector of Customs. [572] Z 2 172 Before A. R. Milne, Collector of Ctuioms, Vlcloriii, B.C., January 22, 1S92. Captain Wentwortli Kvcljii Daker, prusont inaHtcr of the Cunariiaii Hchooner "C. H. Tup|)cr," and Ibrmerly master ol tlu' schooner "Viva," of Victoria, bein{|^ duly Hworn : — 1. ^fr. Milne. — IIuw many years liave you been eiigaf^cti in sealing, Captian Baker ? — A. Kour years. 2. Q. What Canadian scliooncrs have you commanded <luring those four years? — A. The schooner "Viva." 3. Q. During the four years have you l)cen more than reasonably successful as a seal-hunter ? — A. Yes, Sir. 4. Q. How many white men would your vessel Hsuallv carry ?—il. Twenty-three, all told. .'). Q. Vou have huntrri all along the coast, and also every year in Behring's Sea? — A. Kvery year except 1801. Dunng last year I was always outside of the line of demarcation t)etv\een Russian and American waters. 6. Q. During last year, lo your observation, were seals as plentiful along the coast to Shumagin Islands as they were the year before ? — A. In some places I found them as plentiful; in others I found them more plentiful. In some places where 1 never found any before I found them last year, and I found none where I had previously found some. 7. Q. Then, Captain Baker, you think there is no material dilTerence, on the average, during the four years? That is to your observation ? — A. I should say, to my observation, there was no material dilTurence. 8. Q. Your coast catch last year was ecpial to that of former years, was it ? — A. It was equal to the first two years, and better than the third year by almost us many more skins, having 608 skins in 1800, and in .\S01 I hud 1,200 skins. 9. Q. Owing to the number «)f vessels, do the sf.ils appear to be more timorous ? — A. Well, 1 did not lind them so, cxccnt in soivic places. It is a great deal owing to the position in which you find them. I found Jiat the nearer the coast the wilder they are, and the further a', sea you go they don't seem to be any wilder than previously. I think that what makes them wilder along the coast is the increase of traffic, steamers and so on being very numerous. 10. Q. It it said that seal travel in groups of females and groups of bachelor bulls and young bulls — not mixod. Is that so? — A. 1 have always found it so. 11. Q. So you think that the number of male or female seals caught would depend entirely upon the schooner falling in with groups of males or females? —A. Entirely. 12. Q. How is that ? — A. It is much harder to keep the run of females than of the males or barren cows. Females with young appear to be much more timid, and when you get among them and commence shooting, tliey disappear very quickly, and show only the nose and eyes above water when travelling, and do not expose their Imdics as much above the water us the bulls and barren cows do, as if the maternal instinct to preserve their young was apparent. This fact is well known to all seal-hunters. I have often been in a group of cows with pups during the afternoon, and at night they would all disappear, and, apparently from materna instinct, they will travel away as quickly as possible. 13. Q. Do you consider it more diflicult to shool females, so little exposed as they are, than males? — A. It is decidedly more difficult, particularly on the coast. 14. Q. You have observed a number of barren females? — A. Yes ; quite a [? ]. 16. Q. How do they travel ?—^. Usually by themselves, or mixed with bulls; I have never found a cow with pups among the bulls. 16. Q. Have you any idea what the percentage would be of the number of barren cows to the number of seals caught? — A. I could not say exactly, but the percentage is considerable. 17. Q. What is the accepted theory among the sealers as to the barrenness of cows ? — A. I don't know as I have heard of any theory — unless they are like other animals. 18. Q. When you speak of barren cows, you mean those who have been more than one season barren ? — A. Yes ; because before that they are called pups. The barren cows'are those who are old enough to have pups, but didn't. IB. Q. You are quite of a clear opinion then, Captain Baker, that there is a considerable percentage of barren cows ? — A. Yes, Sir. 178 IS92. in schooner !t(>ria, being ng, Captian those four iiiccessrul aa wenty-thrce, in Bchring's itside of the ul along the 3inc places I some places one where I rence, on the hoiikl say, to rs, was it ? — by almost us ins. trc timorous ? it deal owing he coast the e any wilder coast is the s of bachelor ind it so. c*aught would I or females 'r females than more timid, sappear very g, and do not in cows do, as I fact is well 1 pups during rem materna little exposed ularly on the ; quite a [?]. id with bulls ; ie number of actly, but the barrenness of they are like ive been more ;d pups. The that there is SO, Q. Are there more seals shot whilht sleeping than in motion? — A. Yes, Sir; my experience has been that there arc more seals shot whilst sleeping, and that is the experience of most of my hunters, by their report. 21. Q. What do you consider the vital part of a seal? — A. The head or the heart, or in the neck. 22. Q. Do your hunters prefer to shoot the seal in the head ? — A. Yes, Sir; on account of preserving the skin, and also that, the moment the seal is shot in the head, the head sinks and the wind cannot escape. Then, if the seal is not killed, the shot will stun it, and its head will drop below water, so that it cannot sink. 23. Q. What is usually a safe shooting dist.inco? — A. For sleeping seals the distance would k)e about 10 yards, and for travelling seals the distance would be about 10 to 30 yards. 24. Q. Considering that the seals are shot in the head, and the greater portion whilst sleeping, will you state the proportion of seals lost, as compared with those hit, in sealing? — A. The proportion is very small, because, as the usual distance for shooting is about 10 yards for a sleeping seal, we most always kill them instantly, and being so near the seal — even if they are inclined to sink — they are gaffed before they have time to sink. If they even did sink 16 feet, say, we could catch them, as when sinking they go very slowly. The only time I know of when a seal is likely to sink is after it has been chased around in the boats and winded, then shot again, so as to be thrown backwards, allowing the wind to escape from its mouth, when it sinks tail first. P^very boat is supplied with a long pole, about 15 feet, and a spear and gntf on the end, so that we can .'eaci> n ^t distance. It is very seldom that a seal will get away. I would say, therei v from personal experience, that the percentage of loss, as compared with those hit in sealing, would not exceed 'A per cent. Last year I killed, myself, on the coast, lilty-five seals, and out of that number I lost only one by sinking. 25. Q, As a general thing, is the percentage of loss Uiore now than it was four years ago, or is it >;maller? — A. From personal experience, I think about the same, and from the rcj;orts of the hunters 1 should judge it was the sa'-ic, us thoy all report their «»vperiences on their reiiirn to the vessel each night, and when a seal is lost it is alwuys spoken about. From a record kept by hunters during two voyages the aggregate loss by each hunter is shown, and the percentage is not greater, on an average, than 3 per cent. 20. Q. How many hunters do you usually carry? — A. Six; and I hunted myself. The ship's company consists of twenty-three persons. 27. Q. What size shot do you use in shooting seal ? — A. No. 2 buck-shot, or " S " Canadian shot ; and the guns are of the very best material and very expen- sive, costing from 70 to 100 dollars. 28. Q. What do you think is the proportion of females to males in the number killed in the different months of the fishing season ? — A. I don't know, I am sure. It depends upon circumstances. My experience last year was very largely on the bull side on the coast ; that is, tiie proportion taken were largely male seals. I can conscientiously say that it must have been three bulls to one female, and 1 had a larger number of seals than any other vessel on the spring catch. 29. Q. In the Behring's Sea, to your observation, were the males or females in the preponderance? — A. My experience is that they are very much as they are on the coast. Sometimes I would meet with groups of all bulls, and again with groups of all cows. 30. Q. While in Behring's Sea last year, what would be your usual sealing distance from the land ? — A. I was not in Behring's Sea last year, but in previous years it would be from about 30 to 90 miles from land. Tlie usual distance is about 60 miles. Sometimes vvc arc inside of that, sometimes outside of it. 31. Q. Last year, 1 understand you to say, Captain Baker, yon were not in the Behring's Sea on the American side ? — A. No. 32. Q. Do I understand you to say that on the Russian side the same obaerva- tions will apply to the habits and shooting of seal as on the coast ? — A. Precisely the same as to their grouping and habits. 33. Q. During the four years that you have been sealing. Captain Baker, I would like you to state explicitly if you saw or heard oi tny Canadian vessels raiding the American seal islands? — A. No, Sir. To my knowledge I have never heard of any, and I have every reason to believe that there has never been any Canadiaa schooner raiding any of them. .-Di ,1 ,1 I: ' i ijij 174 34. Q. If anything like this had happened, you would have heard of it ? — A. Most certainly 1 would have. 35. Q. You have never heard any itilnrmation of any of our scalers conniving to raid the seal islands ? — A. I never (lid. 36. Q. Two years ag'- it was re[)ortc(l that some American schooners had raided seal islands. Did )ou hear such a report? — A. Yes. Sir; I heard a report that certain American schooners had raided these islands. The "Geo. R. White," "Daniel Webster," " Mollie Adams," and I'or two years the "J. Hamilton Lewis," have l)cen raiding the Copper Islands on the Russian side, and it is reported tluit the American schooner " City of San Diego " also raided the Copper Islands last year. .'H. Q. You have heard of the German schooner " Adele " raiding these islands ? — A. Yes ; in 1889, with poor success. These illegal acts meet with tiie strong disapprobation of every Canadian sealer. 38. Q. And if Canadian sealers had done acts of that kind, you think it would most certainly have leaked out? — A. It most certainly would have. 39. Q. You are quite satisfied, then, tliat not a single Canadian schooner at any time has raided the seal islands? — A. Not to my knowledge. I don't know of one single case. 40. Q. What was your entire catch last season? — A. 1,991 for the whole season. 'J-1. Q. Giving your opinion in confidence, what is your opinion of the seals on the coast and in liehring's Sea? Are they decreasing or increasing? — A. From mv experience, I have not seen any decrease, but I have noticed also that they change their grounds from time to time, and where you find thcni this year you niay not find them the next. This was very remarkable during the year 1890, for the seals were all found to the eastward of Pribylolf Islands, while in former years they were found to the westward. 42. Q. When did you tind them to the eastward of St. Paul's Island ? I inuicr- stand you to say that you found them very numerous '. — A. ^lore so than I ever did before. 43. Q. Have you any opinion to offer as to the return of the seals to the coast last year?—/!. I have no direct opinion, but certainly the seals were more plentiful on the northern coast last vear tiian tlie previous years. (Signed) W. E. BAKEK, Matter. 892 Sworn to before me, at Victoria, British Columbia, this 2 nd day of January, (Signed) A. R. Milne, Collector of Customs. January 19, 1892. Clarence Nelson Cox, master of the schooner " E. B. Marvin," of Victoria, examined by Collector Milne : — 1. Q. W'hat vessels have you commanded on this coast and in Behring's Sea, artain Cox ? — A. 1 have been two years master of the " Triumph," and one year mate of tlio "Sapphire" with my brother. 2. Q. Tliis makes your fifth or sixth year ? — A. This makes my fourth year. I was in Behring's Sea so late last year ; that is probably why it may seem 1 have been out oftener than others. 3. Q. The inquiry. Captain Cox, is to elicit, first, the number of seals lost by being hit. It is alleged that you lose a large proportion of those that are shot, and we wish to get at the facts. Also to establisli the number of females caught during tha last and previous years, and also to investigate if there were any Canadian sealers raiding the seal islands. In the spring; of the year, when you leave port, you go down to meet the seals along the coast ? — A. Yes. 4. Q. I have been given to understand that the seals travel in bands? — A. Yes; all the cows together, and all the bulls together, and the grey pups together. 5. Q. I suppose they are quite distinctly separated ? — A. Yes ; we get the grey pups closer to shore, always inside of the large seals. 6. Q. As a matter of fact, you do not tind many female seals bearing youog 17B travelling with the biiM seals ? — A. I liave never seen them in company together. I have found the barren cows and bulls in company. 7. Q. This separation is from natural selection, or instinct? — A. Yes; while carrvinj; their young- they are never found witli the bulls. The barren cows occasionally dc travel with the bulls. 8. Q. During wiiat montlis have you found more females carrying young aH compared with other months ol the scaling season ? — A. In the winter, when we first go out — February, Marcii, ami April. '.). Q. That is, both bearing- cows and barren cows too? — A. No; bearing cows. There are also grey pups about at that lime. 10. y. What do you mean by "grey pups"? — A, The yearling seal. After that it is called a "brown pup," then a " lAvo-year-old." 11. Q. Along the coast,, from the time you strike tlicin in the spring, do you shoot the larger proportion of tlie seals sleeping, or are there more shot while travelling? — A. Yes; the larger portion of tlic seals killed during the season are shot while sleeping. 12. Q. You say you find the bearing cows travelling continually? — A. If the weather is rough, they are travelling, l>ut if line, they are usually seen sleeping or resting. 13. Q. Is it a fact that the females with young swim low down in the water? — A. Yes ; the l)ulls and barren cows keeji their heads well up, looking aniiind. 14. Q. Wlien you conic ujion a group of seals, y )ur catch, then, will depend upon whether the grou)) is composed of males or i'oniales? — ,1. Yes ; very much. I.'). Q. As a matter of experience, Ca|)tain Cox, have you come upon more groups of males than of females during the last year, say ? — A. I have caught more bulls the last season — a great deal more. I had 848 seals coming up the coast before entering Behring's Sea, and of these about 7"> per cent, would he males. 10. Q. Have you any private opinion as to the reasin of this preponderance of the males last year as compared with previous years? — A. I cannot account for it. In fact, 1 could liardly advance any idea of the cause. I get the most of them from Quuen Charlotte Island coast northwards. 17. Q. You think, though, with some of the other sealers, that at about May the cows are well in advance, going to Behring's Sea, to the breeding grounds, consequently the males would be left behind ? — A. That is the oidy reason I can see for it, because we get very tew females " with pup " in May. 18. Q. What do you consider a sufficient shooting distance, that is sufficiently close range, for sleeping seals?— /I. A great many are shot inside of 15 yards. I think about ]') yards. 19. Q. As a professional sealer, what is your honest and candid opinion about the percentage of seals lost, that is, the number lost after being hit — those that sink ? — A. With the Indian hunters it would not amount to one in a hundred. They kill with the spear, and I know it would not amount to 1 per cent. I was only one season with Indian hunters. Last year I had whites. I do not think the loss would be more than 4 or 5 per cent, with shooting by the white hunters. 20. Q. Tiie spear of the hulian sealer is barbed, is it not, and fastens in the animal ? — A. Yes, it has two barbs, and a line attached, so that they are sure of their seal unless their line breaks, or the spear is not stuck in far enough to hold, neither of which happens often. 21. Q. .You can quite confidently state that the loss of seals killed by white nunters would not exceed \ or 5 per cent.? — A. I can. 22. Q. This you base upon your own personal knowledge? — A. Yes. 23. Q. How many of a crew do you carry on your vessel ?^/.(. Six boats, that 18, six hunting boats, and a stern boat, seven in all. 24. Q. Your ship's company would be how many ? — A. Twenty-three men. 25. C^. And the number of hunters ? — A. Six hunters, or, counting the stern boat, seven hunters. 2G. Q, Your catch last year was how many skins? — A. On the coast, 848 skins. 27. Q. Of that number, how many would be breeding seals? — A. I do not think there would be more than 1.5 per cent. — about 126 female skins, 28. Q. What percentage of them would be barren female skins? — A. About 10 per ceiit. 29. Q. Is the percentage of bearing cows greater than of barren cows ? — A. Yes ; every year in my experience there have been more bearing cows than barren. ■1 176 80. Q. About 15 per cent., then, would be bearing cows, and 10 per cent, barren ones? — A. Yes. 31. Q. — You stated that it would entirely depend upon the i^roups you struck along the coast whether you got males or females ? — A. Yes. 32. Q. And you base your figures upon four years' experience ? — A. Yes, 83. Q. Then you know the percentage of bearing cows would be 16 per cent., and the barren cows 10 per cent. ?— ^. Yes. The first yeir I was with my brother I believe we had not more than 10 per cent, of cow seals ; one of nur seasons we had at least 90 per cent, bulls. 34. Q. That statement applies to Behring's Sea? — A. Yes. 35. Q. What year was that? — A. 1889, when 1 was with my brother as mate of the "Sapphire." The catch on the coast up to Behring's Sea was about 90 per cent, bulls. 36. Q. In the Behring's Sea, what percentage of females had you, as compared with males — I am told there arc less bulls ? — A. I think the percentage of bulls in Behring's Sea is less than on the coast. 37. Q. Bachelor bulls? — A. Yes. The greater percentas^e would be cows — bearing cows; after thev have dropped their young we don't get them in Behring's Sea. 38. Q. Do you not find a lot of bachelor bulls hovering about the outskirts of the groups of seals ? — A, Yes, we get some, but there are more females in Behring's Sea. 39. Q. Did you find it so last year ? — A. Of course I was not in Behring's Sea long enough to know. 40. Q. Your remarks, then, would not apply to last season ? — A. No. 41. Q. You think there would be about an equal number of cows and bulls in Behring's Sea?— ^. Yes; I think that the lulls and cows are about equsUy divided. 42. Q. It is well known among sealers that the old bulls keep their herds, and drive the " bachelor" bulls oflP? — A. Yes. 43. Q. Do you find many groups of bachelor bulls in Behring's Sea ? — A. We do not find them so much in groups as on the coast. 44. Q. Taking your whole catch for the past year, skin for skin, what percentage of females had you ? — A. We had not more than 25 per cent, barren and bearing cows. That would leave us about 75 per cent, bulls. 45. Q. 25 per cent, females, including barren cows? — A. Yes. 46. Q. In the years before last would that percentage hold good ? — A. I think the previous years would not differ very much. 47. Q. In the months of February, March, and April you think that the females killed are more numerous than in Behring's Sea? — A. I think so. We get a great many more grey pups in the winter. 48. Q. Among all the hunters it is pretty well known that the average of loss by being hit would not exceed 3^ to 5 per cent. ? — A. Yes ; that is well known. 49. Q. Wounding a seal so it escapes, you don't .-onsider that lost? — A. No; they carry a lot of shot, and the hunters don't just shoot at it and leave it if it does not die on the spot, but give chase, and if wounded badly it has not much chance of getting away. 50. Q. Considering the hazardous occupation of sealing, the men get very expert in it? — A. Yes; I have a man aboard who does not lose five Seals during the whole season. 51. Q. Is it your opinion that the female seals with young are somewhat timid, and more on the alert than the old bulls ? — A. Yes ; they are. 52. Q. That is one reason why the percentage of females is so small, I suppose ? — A. Yes. 53. Q. In Behring's Sea you say the percentage of loss would be more than on the coast? — A. I think the percentage of loss in Behring's Sea is less than on the coast, because the sealers get more seals asleep in the sea. They seem to be right at home there, and not travelling about so much. 54. Q. Have you at any time known any of our vessels (that is, Canadian vessels), registered Canadian vessels, landing on the seal islands for the purpose of raiding and killing seals ? — A. I can conscientiously say that I have never known of any of our vessels landing there. 55. Q. And have never heard our masters or sailors encourage that sort of practice? — A. No. it. barren au struck 'es. cent., and brother I ns we had r as mate out 90 per compared nf bulls in je cows — 1 Behring's utskirts of 'emales in jring's Sea ! and bulls »ut equsUy herds, and i?—^. We percentage id bearing ■A. I think the females get a great age of loss nown, v_j. No; it if it does uch chance n get very eals during what timid, 3o small, I lore than on than on the to be right , Canadian B purpose of er known of that sort of 177 5G. Q. Have you heard of any vessel having done so? — 4. Yes; I have. 67. Q. What vessels?— y<. The " Mollie Adams," « George R. White," and the "O. S. Fowler," of San Francisco, I heard, raided the Pribyloff Islands. 58. Q. That fact is well known to the whole Heet ? — A. Yes, Sir. You were not in Behring's Sea last season ? — A. 1 was in, but didn't I was ordered out of it. You left as soon as ordered to leave ? — A. I did ; came direct home. Who warned you ?— A. The British steamer " Pheasant." You didn't try to seal after that ? — A. No. Or lowered your boats ? — A. I didn't lower any boats after receiving 50. Q. stay long ; 60. Q. 61. Q. 62. Q. 63. Q. the order. G4. Q. A. I have. 65. Q. You have heard of some American schooners raiding Copper Island ? — Do you know the McLean brothers? — A, Yes; and the " City of San Diego" here, and the "Webster" and "J. Hamilton Lewis," three American vessels who raided Copper Island. 66. Q. You have no idea of why the seals were more plentiful along the coast last year than other seasons ?-—A. I have no idea. 67. Q. There hns been no practical theory advanced as to why last year the seals were more plentiful close in shore than in other years ? — A. I have none, except that it is on account of their food fish. The seal follows the food. The earlier those fish strike along the coast, and the closer in shore, the earlier and closer to the coast we get the seals. (Signed) 0. N. COX. Sworn before me, this 18th day of January, a.d. (Signed) A. R. Milne, Collector of Customs. 1892. Captain Alfred Bissett, master of the Canadian schooner "Annie E. Paint," of Victoria, British Columbia, being duly sworn, says : — 20. Mr. Milne. — How many years have you been engaged in sealing ? — A. Two years; this is my third year — have been master, mate, and hunter. 21. Q. You have had about average luck ? — A. Yes, about the average. 22. Q. You have followed the seals from south of Cape Flattery north, haven't you ? — A. Yes, Sir. 23. Q. During last year, to your observation, were the seals as plentiful along the coasts as they were the previous years ?—A. They were. 24. Q. Did the seals appear more frightened than usual ? — A. I think not ; I noticed no difference. 25. Q. Did you notice last year, or any year, in hunting seals, that the cows travel together by themselves, and the bulls by themselves, in herds ? — A. I did notice that the bulls, in u general way, travel together, and the cows together, and small seals, as a rule, pups, travel together. 26. Q. When hunting, of course, if you struck a band of bulls, the catch that day Mould be principally bulls? — A. Yes ; principally bulls. 27. Q. Do you think more seals are shot while sleeping than when in motion ? — A. Oh, yes ; far more, about 80 per cent., I think. 28. Q. What do you consider a safe shooting distance for a sleeping seal ?— A. For a sleeping seal about 20 to 30 feet is a sure distance. 29. Q. And when they are on the move, what is the distance? — A. Well, from 25 to 30 yards. 30. Q. What is your opinion of the proportion of seals that are lost after being hit ? — A. I think from 3 to 5 per cent, would cover everything. 31. Q. Where do you aim for, in shooting a seal ? — A. I aim for the head. So when a sea! drops his head down, the air is stopped from escaping ? that is the reason we shoot in the head. During last year did you notice the proportion of females to males From counting the skins, and noticing the seals coming on board the thip, I should form 75 to 80 per cent, were bulls, and the remainder females. [672] 2 A ..J 32. Q. Yes; 33. Q. killed ?—A —A. ■ff B 17*' .'Ml Q. Ila ymii kii«ow> the reason' of. that ? — Ai 1 1 don't' know, unlMH tlio fows travel a little rA«(er' than the hulls, wlin roilow tlio coaitt. [ have nLwayBiioticnil. thnt tliern are luorc IimIIh killocl on tho const tliati tlieroare remalos- 'M>. Q. Have you ovor noticed wlien tlie ruimlier oP Ibnialos tirodoniinate ? — A. 1 hanily know, hut I have noticed that during the inonihH of March and A|iril that (here wero ninro cows tlum niulei* in the niontim oi May, June, and .lidy. JIG. Q. Oan you form any idea, I'rom what you have heui'd, wlicthor tlurrc are more rcniales killed than males? — A. I Hhoidd Huy that thare are dtwidttdly mon! males. That is from what I have heard and suen myH«ir. There in no douht. that the low |)rice ohtained in liondon this year is due to the lar^^n niuuher of Hmuil l)ull skiuH taken, the skins ol' tho ieniales^ l)einfj^ larger and hettvr. ;{S. Q. Diuing the two years that you have hecn engaged in sealing have you o\'pr known any ('anutlian vessel to rniil any of the seal isiandH? — A. No, Sir. nn. Q. It' there had hoen any such thing going on, it would have leake<i out r — A. Il would certainly have leaked out, aiul I would have heard of it. It is almost im|M)ssihle to keep it (|uict. (The ahove having heen carefidly retui ovor to ('uptain Uissett, he eorrol)oratt.s> and siiltNtantiatcH the same.) (Signed) AJil'llIil) lilSSIiTT. 185)1: Sworn hoforo infi at Victorin, Uritish Colunihia« thtslSdi d&v<>l N'ovemhvr [sir],. (Signed) Aj. R. AfiLNi;, Collpclor of Cuslomy. January ll», 1892. (.^iptain Theodore M. Mngnesen, in command of the schooner "Walter A. Karl," of Victoria, examiiu'd hy ('ollect«)r Milne: — 1. Q. Mow many )'ear» have you Imoii scaling in Dehring's Sea, Captain Magncscn ? — ./. Three years; thiawill ' i» my fourth. 2. Q. Yon have had very gixnl huccohs last year 'f — A. Yen, very fair sticcoss. ',]. Q. Did you notice last year any iierceptiblc decrease iu the nunther of se.-ds compared with previous years 'i* — A. I think they wero: mure plentiful laal .season than I ever saw them heforc. I. Q. Do you mean in Hehring's Sea? — A. Yes, both along the coast and in the Son. The hi8;;grat catch 1 have ever made was last year, on tlie coast. as well as in the Mehring's 8ea. 5. y. Y<ni have notii.'cd the habits of the seals — how they travel? — J,. They travel in batches, the bull seals by themselves, and the cow seals hy themselves, an«i tho yearling pups by themselves. 6. Q. As a matter of fact, are there more seals shot while sleeping than while thev are travelling? — A. That is hard to say, but 1 think there arc just ns manv shot while moving as there are sleeping seals. 7. Q, \Vhcn yon shoot seals hy sleeping, what is tho safe. shouting distance? — A. About 25 yards. S. Q, And when travelling ? — A> About 4u to 50 yards. 0. Q. The usual mark you shoot at is tiio head of the seal ? — A. Yes. 10. Q. When hit in the head, tho seal docs not sink? — A. No; sometimes ho does, though, if he is shot when short of wind at the moment, and he will sink if vou are too far away to pull it out. II. Q. You have noticed them sinking? — A. Y'es; they generally sink tai. first. 12. Q. If the seal it^ shot in the head, he drops his head, and that conlincs the breast, and it floats? — A. Yes, that is tho way I have accounted for them floating. 13. Q. How many seals, in your experience, do you think a hunter loses out ui\ say, 100 sliot at? — A. I know my head hunter killed 408 seals last yeai-, and 17 of. them sunk. 14. Q. That would be about 34 per cent. ? — A. Yes. Id. Q. Do vou consider that a fair average on the number of scals: lost ? — ^^^.-Ab. an experienced hunter, I think it is a fair average. 170 ,|lU fOWH B niiticml. iiwito ? — itui April V- Lluirc iuo (dly more niti>t. dial imttil l)ull luivi' you Sir. •(I «iit 'r — is alnutsl rrnhoruUH iil>er [.viVj, Walter A. X, Cai)luin SllfCOSS, or of aeals .■uil sunsoi) nnci ill liic well as ill — /l.Tliey hciuselves, than wliilo stna many iataiicc f — netiines ho will sink if ' sink tai> onUaos tlio floating-. 3ses out ()!', , and 17 ol' ist I — A^Aa. iO. Q. Wnnltl you nay that a man who loses, say, 5 per cent, or the seal he Hhoots would not ho an experienced hunter? — A. lie could not lose more thaa that. 17. Q. Will that perccntap^o of loss n|)ply to the travelling scalii as well as to the sleeping seals ? — A. Yes, the most of the seiils lost arc the ones shot by the ones inoviiiK or travelling. 18. Q. Your boats carry pole, spear, and gaff? — A. Yes j and if the seal sinks down 10 nr \'j feet thoy are easily recovered. I!). Q. Jf you were on your oath, now, and heard any one say that for every seal that was killed, male or female, one was lost, you would say it was a misHtate- ment'r' — A. Yes; tjiat is not so. 20. Q, If any one came here and said that for every seal you hit you killed another seal ? — A. That is nonsense. 21 . Q. TJie highest percentage of loss, you say, would be .1 per cent, lor sinking seals? — //. Yes; and I may say tiiat I have taken seals with shot in them, dropped out wiien skinning, and they seemed as strong an<l liealtiiy as ever. 22. Q. Tluit is to say, that unless you slioot a seal in a vital part, the wound heals (piickly ? — A. Yes; find unless you hit it hard tiie seal gets away. 2:5. Q. You have seen females with young? — A. No; I never .saw them carrying their young in the water. 24. Q. Down the coast the seals are pretty well divided, are they not?— A. Yes. 2"). Q. The cows travel by themselves, and the bulls by themselves? — A. Yes. 20. Q. Did you say that yon have caught more bull seals than cow seals during the season ? — A. Y'cs, along the coast; but when 1 got up and u|) I got more bulls than cows. 27. Q. What months have you seen more cows in proportion than other numths ? — //. In February, March, and April. 2H. Q. Hut even when you see more cows the average of the seals killed is in favour of the bulls, is it not? — A. No; it is about equal. 21). Q. You say the cows travel quicker tosvards the Bchring's Sea? — A, Yes; when we get further up the cow seals seem to leave the bulls beiiind. .'10. Q. Ilas^ it always been so? — A. Yes; I have got 181 seals in a day, and not a cow amongst tliem, but you sometimca get one. I tliink the average is about one in ninety. 31. Q. You always get more bulls than cows? — A. Yes, up there. 32. Q. How many out of every hundred seals you had on board your vessel last year would be females? — A. I think fully a half of them would be cows. 33. Q. How many of them would be bearing cows, and how many of them would be barren cows? — A. Of bearing cows, £ think about 18 or 20 per cent, would he hearing cows. I do not think there would be so many as that. T had 2,000, and I think there would be only about 12 or H per cent, with pups; the others would be what arc called barren cows, and a lot of them would be dry cows. 34. Q. With the barren cows and the ones bearing young you say would make up about half your catch ?— /I. Yes; about half and half. 35. Q. The proportion of males and females, though, depends upon the crowds or groups you get into? — A. Yes ; it depends upon the band you strike. 30. Q. You never, at any time, had more females than males in any of your I . ,es ? — A. No, never. 37. Q. While in Behring's Sea during the last four years had you ever heard of any Canadian schooners "raiding" the PribylofP Islands? — A. No. I never heard of any of my crew being engaged in such. Several of my crews told me of the American scalers raiding them, but I never heard of a Canadian vessel doing so. 38. Q. If you were bound to make a statement on your oath, you would say you believed no Canadian vessels ever raided the PribylofT Islands for seals ? — A. Not as far as I know. 39. Q. You believe, as a matter of fact, that the owners of Canadian sealers and their masters have never countenanced this raiding ? — A. I believe that is the feeling that prevails among them all. 40. Q. You have heard mentioned the names of the .\merican vessels that raided those islands? — A. Yes; I heard of the " Mollie Adams" and "George R. White," but not any others. [572] 2 A 2 180 41. Q. You have not heard of any others ? — A. No; I have not heard of any others. 42. Q. You have heard of vessels raiding the Copper Islands ? — A. Yes ; 1 have heard of the " Hamilton liCwis " and " Webster" raiding Copper Island. 43. Q. Those vessels you name are all American vessels ? — A. Yes. 44. Q. Manned by American crews ? — A, Yes. 45. Q. Have you any recollection or seeing any of those vessels in this (Victoria) Harbour ? — A. No. (Signed) THEO. M. MAGNESEN. Sworn before me, this 23rd day of January, a.d. 1892. (Signed) A. R. Milne, Collector nf Customs. Henry Crocker, hunter on board the schooner " Annie E. Paint," having been sworn : — 65. Q. How long have you been engaged in sealing? — A. I have been hunting won for three years ; this is my fourth. 66. Q. From your observation, do you think that the seals were as plentiful last year as they were during the previous seasons? — A. Yes ; from what I saw of them I am sure they were just as many as before. 67. Q. In what months do the female seals seem to be the most plentiful in the sealing-grounds? — A, I believe that from February to May the females seem to predominate in numbers ; that is, when the cows are getting heavier with young, they make for the islands sooner than the bulls. 68. Q. Is it more difficult to shoot a female seal than it is a bull? — A. The males arc ir;.,e easily killed than the females, owing to the inquisitiveness of the males, and the females being more shy, and also as they move along the water with only their nose visible. 69. Q. As an experienced hunter, what percentage of loss have you had by seals sinking? — A. It is very rarely that a seal will sink. I have been a whole season and have not had more than half a dozen sink during the whole season. 70. Q. Can you form any estimate of what your loss has been ? — A. I would say not more than .S to 4 per cent. 71. Q. Was the loss last year more than in previous years? — A. I could see no difference. 72. Q. As a reason for the small percentage of loss, you get very near the seals before shooting ? — A. Yes, Sir; the usual distance is within about 20 feet to a sleeping seal. 73. Q. If a man has a higher percentage of loss than that, he must be careless, you think? — A. Yes, I should say so, and not a first-class hunter, for there is no ■lecessity for losing a seal. 74. Q. Does your percentage of loss agree with other hunters with whom you have conversed ? — A. Yes. 75. Q. So that on the coast and in Behring's Sea the same percentage would apply ? — A. Well, on the coast one does not very often sink a seal ; but in Behring's Sea, if a cow, having delivered her pups, is shot, she will be more apt to sink, as the blubber is very much thinner. But. on the whole, I think the percentage will not be more than .3 or 1 per cent, of loss. 76. Q. H.ave you taken notice in hunting whether there are more females than males, or the reverse, taken? — A. There is fully 80 per cent, of bull seals killed olf the coast, as well as in I'eliring's Sea. I think the i-eason for this is that the younger bulls are driven olf by the older ones, who guard their particular herds. 77. Q. In the three years you have been in Behring's Sea has it always been your cvperience that there were more males caught than females ? And in what proportion ? — A. I say about the same as this year ; I don't see any difference. 78. Q. Does your percentage of females taken agree with that of other hunters with whom you have conversed ? — A. /es. 79. Q. As an experienced hunter, then, you adhere to the statement that for heard of any s?--A. Yes; yer Island. Bsels in this LGNESEN. " having been been hunting I plentiTuI last I saw of them ilcntiful in the nales seem to T with young, )ull?— ^. The iveness of the he water with e you had by been a whole e season. ' — A. I would 1. I could see rery near the ut 20 feet to a st be careless, jr there is no ith whom you entage would t in Behring's pt to sink, as ercentage will females than eals killed off is is that the ular herds, t always been And in what iPference. other hunters ment that for the whole seasons' catches for the years you have been hunting, that the percentage of seals caught will be about three males to one female?— ^4. Yes; about that. 80. Q. Do you include in that statement barren cows? — A. Yes. 81. Q. Have you any idea or reason of your own why the males come to predominate so much ? — A. I thin!; it is because the females make for the islands earlier than the young bulls and barren cows. 82. Q. Have you ever heard of any Canadian vessels raiding the seal islands ? — A. No, Sir. 83. Q. You have never heard of any Canadian master or owner offering any inducement to hunters to raid the islands? — A, No, Sir. 84. Q. There has never been any bonus offered you to raid the islands ?— A. No, Sir; while in Behring's Sea we are always too anxious to get away from th islands. 83. Q. If an/ Canadian vessels had raided the islands you would have likely heard of it? — A. Yes I think it is impossible to keep it as quiet as that. 86. Q. You have t card of American vessels raiding the Copper and Pribyloff Islands ? — A, I have heard it. I have known of the American vessels going into Sand Point just after they had raided the islands, and I was in Sand Point when one vessel was fitted out for the purpose of making a raid. 87. Q. The masters with whom you have sealed all seem to have avoided the islands ? — A. Oh, yes ; they keep away from the islands between 60 and 100 miles. (The foregoing having been read over to the said Henry Crocker, he corroborates and substantiates the whole of the said statements.) (Signed) HENRY CROCKER, Hunter. 1892. Sworn to before me, at Victoria, British Columbia, this 18th day of January, (Signed) A. R. Milne, Collector of Customs. George Roberts, hunter on board the schooner " Annie E. Paint," being duly sworn, says ; — 55. Q. How long have you been engaged as a sealer?—^. I have been at seal- hunting for three years, one season as a hunter. 56. Q. Were the seals more plentiful last year than in previous years? — A. They were just about the same as regards number. 57. Q. How do the seals generally travel — in mixed numbers, males and females together? — A. The seals travel in bands of bulls and bands of cows, both by themselves. 58. Q. What is the proportion of seals lost by sinking after being shot?— A. Well, I should say that 3 to 6 per cent, would cover the whole loss. It is not more. 59. Q. What is the distance you are off a seal when you shoot, generally?— A, Well, from 20 to 30 feet for a s.eeper, and for a traveller from 25 to 30 feet. 60. Q. What part of the seal do you aim at? — A. I aim at the head, as the best place, being the surest. 01. Q. Do you think there were any more female seals shot than males last year ? — A. No ; I think there were more males shot ; in fact, I think that since I have been engaged in the business there have been more males killed than females. G2. Q. What months have you noticed more females than males? — A. In the months of March and April there are more females than at any other time. There are more females killed during those months than there are any other time. 63. Q. Have you ever heard of any of the Canadian vessels poaching ;)n the seal islands? — A, I never did ; I would have heard of it if there had br;en any. I have heard of the American raiders ; but I do not know of a single Canadian vessel raiding a seal rookery. i 182 6d. Q. If a seal is sinking, does it go quickly or slowly ? — A. IT it is not too fur awny it can always be secured, as it does not go too (juickly to get it. (The above having been read to the said George Uoberts, he corroborates and substantiates all of the foregoing statements.) (Signed) GEORGE ROBERTS, Hunter. 1892. Sworn to before me at Victoria, British Columbia, this 1 8th day of January, (Signed) A. R. Milne, Collector of Ciutoms. Riclmrd Thomson, hunter on board the schooner *' Annie E. Painter," being duly sworn, says: — 40. Q. How long have you been engaged in sealing ? — A. I have been engaged as a hunter for two years. 41. Q. Were the seals as plentiful last year as (hey were the previous year, to your observation ?—W. Yes; 1 believe they were. 42. Q. Were the seals apparently harder to approach than they were in previous years ? — A. No; I can't say that I saw any diflerence. 43. Q. How do the seals generally travel? — A. As a rule the bulls travel separately, und quite a distance apart generally. 44. Q. What is your experience in hunting as to the number of seals lost alter being hit ? — A. I should think from S to 5 per cent, would cover all. 45. Q. What is the usual manner in which seals are lost? — A. Well, if the seal is in a certain position and shot so as to allow the air to escape, the seal will be lost. As long as the head sinks below the water first, the seal will not sink. They very rarely sink in any case. 46. Q. You carry a spear on a gaff, don't you ? — A. Yes ; it is carried to spear the seals when they are going down. 47. Q. From your experience in sealing, you consider that from 3 to 5 per cent, would cover the total loss of seals, after being shot, through sinking? — A. Yes. 48. Q. When you shoot a seal at a distance, and do not shoot them in a vital part, they make o<T', do they ? — A. Yes. 4y. Q. You don't consider that lost, then • — A. No ; we don't consider the seal lost unless it sinks. 50. Q. Have you handled more males than females during the past two years ? -^ — A. I should say more males. 51. Q. Have you any idea of the proportion of males — would there be two males to one female ? — A, I should say from 70 to 80 per cent., or about three males to one female. 52. Q. In what months do you consider that there are most females killed r — A. During the months of April and May. There are apparently more females, but not as many as males. 53. Q. You have never known of any Canadian schooners raiding the seal islands have you r — A. I have never heard of a Canadian, but I have of the American. 54. Q. During the time that you have been to Bohring's Sea, you would have heard of it P — A. I would certainly have heard of it. 55. Q. You have always sailed out of this port ? — A. Yes, Sir. (The above having been read over to Richard Thomson, he corroborates and substantiates the same.) (Signed) R. THOMSON, /fun/er. Sworn to at Victoria, British Columbia, before me, this 18th day of January, 1892. (Signed) A. R. Milne, • ;. ,.., ,, Collector of Customs. -Aj^' jiic^'^.C'iAiafr *. . is not ton orates and , Hunter. if January, iter," being en engaged aus year, to ey were in bulls travel if seals lost 1. Well, if the the seal will vill not sink. ried to spear o 5 per cent. A. Yes. ein in a vital lider the seal t two years ? be two males rec males to L's killed r — ore lemales, ing the seal lave of the 1 would have oborates and N, Hunter. 8th day of 188 Victoria, BiC, January 2i, ^mi. " ,-. .' • Andrew Laing, called and eocamined by Collector- A. R. Milne: — 11 Q. Yon are one of the oldest seal-hunters in the province, Mr, Liiing?-^/!. I have been ten years at it. 2. Q. Yonr knowledge of sealing really goes beyond the present knowlcdftc of the average sealer? — A. I have had as much experience as any of them ; 1 think I know as much as any of them. 3. Q. Your observations on the west coast extend beyond tlio advent of the scaling business in Behring's Sea ? — A. Yes. I went on the coast in 1871, nr.d Ikui- been sealing with natives for the last twenty-ono years, 4. Q. You had ample opportunity of observing the life and habits of the seals? — A. Yes. 5. Q. From those observations last year did you notice any perceptible or material decrease in the number of seals ^—A, None whatever. 0. Q. It was generally reported last year they were more numerous than the year before ? — A. Yes. 1 think if anything they were a little more numerous, than 1890. 7. Q. Does that remark apply to full-grown ? — /I. To fnll-grown and mid-sized. 8. Q. What direction do the seals on the coast usually come from? — A. Thoy come from the south, tbilowing the herring, which spawn on the west coast and diilercnt places', and the seal follow (hose lish into the shore or far out, as the rase may be. The natives get a great number of these seals among a school of herring. 0. Q. What is the usual distance which the natives hunt away from shore? — A. In the spring thev will hunt 10 or 15 miles off, later in the season 20 or 'J.'> miles. I have seen them 40 miles from the land. 10. Q. How long does the hunting of the seal on the west coast usually last?- — A. Commences in February, or latter end of .January, and lasts till the 1st Junei when you get more or less seals; you can get a few stragglers in July. 11. Q. Atid the tendency of the seals is from the south ? — At Yes, following their food lish. 12. Q, You have been down the coast to where yon meet the seals in their migration ? — A. I have gone down as far as Shoal Water Bay, Columbia RiviM-. 13. Q. How do you meet the seals— in large bands or batclif's? — A. V.os, in schools, from two to twenty in a school. 14. Q. Do they s«nm to travel in pairs? — Ai No, Sir. 15. Q. Do you find in these schools, or bunches, they arc all males or fu males? — A. They are mixed. I remember an instance — I think in 1886 — when we got on the coast off Cape Flattery either 104 or 109, am not) positive, and out of that there were over 100 bull seals, and the next day we got about 86, and out of that numl)cr over 70 were bulls. That was in the year 1886. 16. Q. Would your observation lead you to suppose that your catch would depend entirely upon the group of bulls or females as-to which your catch would Imj composed of principally ?—^i As we get amongst them ; yes. 17. Q. But taking one year with another — from 1886 to the present timu — have you seen any more females killed than of bulls? — A. No, Sir. I think we have got about three' males in five, and when we get up about the Bank, about Middlutou Island, I think they will average more males than females. 18. Q. When you strike the seals on the coast about 40 or 50 miles from siiore, do you find a large proportion of them sleeping? — A. They are generally sleeping. The Indians get none but sleeping seals. I have never been working with Whites. 19. Q. The natives approach the seals very close? — A. Yes; and ho coincs to the leeward of tiicm, and if there is any sea on they get into the trough of tlio sea and make no noise. If he went to windward the seal would scent him, and get away. 20. Q. When he gets close enough he throws his spear, and seldom misses? — A. Yes ; he don't miss one in ten. 21. Q. And when once his spear is fastened, the seal never gets away ? — A. No. 22. Q. If an Indian loses more than what you say, he would not be a goo.l hunter ? — A. No good at all. It would not pay to " pack " him. 23. Q. Do the Indians ever shoot? — A. Sometimes. They never shoot if the seal is sleeping. m ■m m * .^JtsAtja ^-.^".■. 184 You mean by "loss" — what? — A. By sinking. ir the seal is wounded so it gets away, you don't consider it lost? — 24. Q. Does that percentage of loss apply to the sleeping seals only ? — A. Yes. 25. Q. 26. Q. A. No. 27. Q. ir speared and wounded, and scurried off, you don't consider it lost? — A. Oh, no ; not Inst. 28. Q. The Indian hunter is very clo!«c to tiie quarry, and rarely misses his aim 7— A. Weil, he will get within 26 or 30 yards of it. 29. Q. Have you noticed any marked difference in the manner in which the females cas rying young travel as compared with the males ? — A, The only difference I could see is that they will travel very fast for a little distance, and then turn up and rest. 30. Q. I mean, do they sink their bodies more ? — A. No; tliey do not. 31. Q, Do you think the female is more shy than the male, that is those "with young"? — A. No. I think they are not any more shy. The female is always inclined to be sleepy. The male is always on the watch, and will rise till his head and shoulders are out of the water. 32. Q. One hunter has said that the female lies deep in the water, exposing only a portion of her head ? — A. I have never noticed that. When lying asleep one-half of the head is under water. 33. Q. Then you will say that the percentage of loss of the Indian hunters is not more than how many in the hundred P — A. Not more than one in ten ; not more than 10 per cent. 34. Q. You say you never hunted with white men until this year? — A. No. 35. Q. If any person made a statement that there is a greater amount of loss than what you say, you would not regard it as correct ? — A. 1 would say it was not correct, with Indian hunters. 36. Q. Your statement is based upon actual experience? — A. Yes. 37.. Q. In going down the coast in the spring, in February, March, and April, have you noticed that females are more plentiful than in the following months ? — A. I do not think they are. 38. Q. But as they come from the south, you think they ar** not? — A. Between January and June, and between the south and the Shumigan Islands, have you noticed any time or place where there were any more females killed than others? — A. I think in May, I have noticed one thing: you will not find, take one in ninety, you will never find a female pup. Where the female young go to is something that the Commissioners ought to have found out before they came down from the sea. 39. Q. It has been stated that the Indians say there is no such thing as a female grey pup? — A. I liave never seen one yet, and cannot account for it, unless the females go one way and the males another. 40. Q. Among ail yearling grey pups, there has never been any one known to have found a female ? — A. Yes, it is a fact. I have heard a great deal of talk of females having young on the kelp, too, but I don't think that is so. Some hunters report of seeing pups od'Middleton's Island, but I think that is impossible. 41. Q. Have you ever seen them cut a pup out of the female seal ? — A, Yes; and I have seen the pup so cut out walk or move about the deck of the vessel, and I have tried to raise it. I have also thrown it into the water, and have seen it swim about like a young do« ; I have seen it keep afloat for fifteen minutes, as long as the vessel was within sight. On the islands, the mother seal will take the young and force them into the water to teacli tiiem to swim. They will never take the water freely themselves for from 8i.\ weeks to two months. 42. Q. You think they will swim .50 yards probably, or 100 yards? — A. Yes; but don't think they could live continually in the water if they were born in it. 43. Q. When you strike the seals on the west coast, what would you say was the usual distance per day that the seals travel ? — A. That is impossible to say ; it depends upon their food. 44. Q. That is, they linger longer over good food than otherwise ? — A. Yes ; I remember in, I think, 1888, where an Indian threw his spear at a seal, and his line broke, it was near the Shumigan Islands, and he took the same seal the next day — \ve lay-to all night — and he recovered his own iron spear-head. That might show the distance they move in, say, a night, because it did not travel far. 45. Q. When you lower your boats two Indians go to a canoe ? — A. \ es, and both paddle. mmmmm' B only t — it lost T— It lost?— misses Ills which the The only >, and then t. lose "with is always 1 his head I-, exposing ,ing asleep I hunters is ; not more -A. No. )unt of loss say it was , and April, months ? — ■A. Between s, have you n otliers ? — in ninety, ething that the sea. thing as a r it, unless ic known to I of talk of brae hunters •le. ?— J. Yes; vessel, and icen it swim 1 long as the young and ■e the water |v — A. Yes; in it. |ou say was to say ; it -A. Yes; I ind his line next day — [might show \ es, and 186 » 46. Q. The Indian in the how keeps his spear right before?— i<. Yes. 47. Q. And he throws it at the animal, and strikes it where? — A, It makes no diHbrence where they are hit. They try when shooting to hit in the head. 48. Q. When a seal is struck, or wounded, what time does it require to heal ?— A. It heals very rapidly. 49. Q. What time does it require to get the seal aboard after it is speared ? — A. Not more than two minutes when they spear, and not as long as that when they shoot it. 50. Q. What is the usual length of the scaling-boat? — A. About 20 feet. 61. Q. And the canoe ?—A. About 22 feet. 52. Q. Is it not a fact that sealing in these small boats in the stormy spring months is a very hazardous undertaking? — A. Yes. 53. Q. It is commonly reported that our seal-hunters, both Whites and Indians, are more expert than any others on the coast ? — A. That is so. They arc the most expert. 54. Q. It is said also that unless the weather is very tempestuous nothing will retard them ? — A. Yes; they go out every chance they can get. 65. Q. The loss of a full-sized skin meant the last two years how much to the hunter ? — A. About 3 dollars per skin. 56. Q. What is the largest number which you ever saw an Indian canoe bring aboard in one day ? — A. Forty-eight in one canoe, in Bchring's Sea. 57. Q. On the coast, how many ? — A. Thirty-four; that is over the average. 58. Q. In leaving the schooner, how far do the hunters, both Indians and Whites, CO? — A. They go as far as 10 or 12 miles, sometimes 15 miles, from the vessel, till they can just see the tops of her sail. 59. Q. And this in pretty rough weather? — A. Yes ; pretty rough. It might be smooth when they go out, but it often comes on rough before they can get back. 60. Q. In following the seals up the coast in February, March, and April, and May and June, where do you begin to get them in larger numbers ? — A. Off Queen Charlotte Islands. 61. At this time, are the females in advance of the males, seemingly hastening to the sea? — A. They get throu^jh as soon as they can, the males in advance of the females — they haul out first. 62. Q. Some scalers think the cows go ahead ? — A. The males haul out, and each one ^ets his batch of females, and as the cows come in they make up their herd of females. 63. Q. Have you ever, when with scalers, heard the percentage of loss talked of? — A. No; 1 have never heard it mentioned with scalers. 64. Q. You speak from your experience with Indians ? Your percentage of loss of 1 in 10 would be based on actual experience with Indian hunters ?— A. Yes ; 1 in 10. 65. Q. You have stated that in the month of May you think tb would be more females than in the other months of the season ? At that time what part of the ocean would you be ?-~A. Up off Queen Charlotte Island. 66. Q. You have also stated that the more plentiful the food, the slower the seals travel? — A. Yes ; they stay longer where the food is. 67. Q. At the end of any of your seasons, have you actually counted the number of females you had in your cargo? — A. I have never done so. 68. Q. Have you any idea of your last year's catch, what proportion of females you had in the coast catch ? — A. I think there would be about 3 males in 5 — 3 males to 2 females. 69. Q. That applies to the coast catch only ? — A. Yes ; up to Kodiak. 70. Q. In the Behring's Sea, what proportion would it bear? — A. I think about 4 males in 5 — 4 males to 1 female. 71. Q. Were you in Behring's Sea last year? — A. The vessel was. The way I account for getting so many males was, during the beginning of July and August, when the females would be ashore nursing their young the greater part of the time. • 72. Q. At any time in Behring's Sea, what has been your nearest point of hunting to the seal islands ? — A, I have never been closer in hunting than 30 miles — usually 30 to 90 miles off. We got blown in there once, the only time I saw the island ; we were vrithin 10 miles of them then. 73. Q. You never saw or hesird of any schooners, or spoke any schooner, who made a boast of raiding the islands ?—'A. None belonging to us. I heard of the [672] 2 B iRfi '• Webutcr," '• Mollic Adams," the " Ilamiltoii Lewis," and the German «cli(M)nor "Adcle" raiding^ the islands. 74. Q. All these were American schooners? — A. Yes; except the " Adelc." 75. Q. There is no doiiht, then, uinon}; scalers, that these vessels did ;ictnallv raid the islands? — A. It has been commonly reported, and I have no reason to disbelieve it. 7^>. Q. Did any of those vessels at that time belong to Victoria ? — A. No ; they did not. 77. Q. Can you advance an> idea as to when the seals leave Ikhrinfj's Sea? — A. To the best oi my knowledfje, about l\w middle of October. 78. Q, Is it the accepted idea thai those seals which leave Hehring's Sen in th« fall are the same that return in the sprin<;- ? — A. That is my opinion. 79. Q. You have never heard at any time any inducement ever od'ercd by a captain or sailor from Victoria to ship men or to pcrlorm any work with the intention of raiding; those islands? — A. Not from a Canadian vessel. 80. Q, It is a fact that every ship-owner and master of Canadian vessels has deprecated the raiding; of the islands, that is, have never agreed with it ? — A. They do not agree with it at all. Kvery one 1 have spoken to arc very well satisfied to go into the sea and j^et their catch lep;itiniately. 81. Q. You think there is ample field lor huntinp; seals without raidinjjj the islands ? — A. Yes, I do. 82. Q. Is it your opinion, Captain Lai np;, that with the increased nnnd)cr of schooners here and in San Francisco, there will be any nmtcrial injury to the sealinpf industry ? — A. I do not think so. S'.i. Q. From observations made last year, you arc quite of the opinion tliat the seals were more |)lentirul than ou had ever seen them before? — A. Tiicy were more plentiful last year, 18!»1, than the year before, 1800. 84. Q, Is there any way you can account for that? — A. None wiiatever, unless it is the same as with any species of fish ; some years you !>et more than others. There is no accounting; for it. H,'). (J, Uoferrint;- to the number of lenialcs caui^ht in the spring-, there are (piite a number ol the female seals barren, or have never borne youn<^ ? You have noticed it? — A. Yes; some are barren that have had young, and others that have not borne. 86. Q. When you speak of the proportion of females killed, you m<!an the barren cows as well as those that are bearing young ? — A. Yes. 8/. Q. Have you formed any idea of the general .average or percentage of females carrying young killed in April and May ? — A. i could not form any idea, 88. Q, Nor of barren cows? — A. No, Sir. 8!). Q. Would you hazard a statement that all the females, both bearing and barren cows, were certainly less than the male seals taken ? — A. Yes ; certainly less in number. 90. Q. If any one were to make the bold statemci't that for every male seal killed there is a female killed, would it be correct? — .(. Tiuit would not lie correct. !)1. (j. You have not heard any estimate of the percentage olliarren I'emales as compared with the bearing cows killed?— .■<. There are less of the barren cows killed in the sprintj- than there are in the fall. I don't think that they jio as far south as the cows that bear young. 92. Q. You .say that in Jkhring's Sea tlie males |)reponderate ? — A. Yes. 93. Q. You cannot account for this, you say, excei)t it be tiiat the females arc all ashore bearing young? — A. The males we get in the sea are all '.i- or 4-year-olds, which the old wigs would not let ashore at all. 94. Q. Are there any " rookeries " along the coast of any extent? — A. I have never heard of one this side of the Shumigan Islands. 95. Q. Year after year, hunting tlien, do you lind them travelling along the same course? — A. Yes, where their food is, from 15 to .'55 miles out. 9G. Q. Your opinion is that the percentage of loss as compared with those hit would not exceed 10 per cent, with Indian hunters? — A. How do you mean lost ? 97. Q. You say a seal hit and not killed is not lost if it escapes? — A. Yes. 98. Q. Then the proportion of loss in proportion to those killed is about how much — 10 per cent? — A. It does not exceed that. 99. Q. In the number killed during the dilTerent months of the season, what is the proportion of males to females P — 4- Thfce males to two females. do." actually ciirtoii t() Si) ; tlify 'a Sea ? — Sou ill tllB <iT(l l)y fi will) tlH' essoin I'.as -A. Tlioy ivlisfiotl U) aid ins ^''i- mimltcr of ny to tlio )n tliat the wore nioro •vcv, unless lan others. ic are (|iiite Vou have •s tiiat have mean the I'ceiitasic of any idea. kcarinR" and •riainly less V male seal ll.c eorrect. I'eniales as airen cows :\ i;o as far Yes. I females arc l-ycar-olds, -A. I have along the with those you mean 1^. Yes. , about how ton, what is 187 100. Q. Ab to the abstention of OnnnHinn scnicrs from raiding the sertl iHlandit, you are quite posi ivc thai Ironi your kn()\\ieil;;e of scaling-vesHcl owners and nuistern, you jV'^^' '' as your ilircet opinion that no Canadian sealers ever raided IJMiM' i^,lands, Vou would say so upon oath in Court? — A. They never did to my kini" leilf^e. K'l. (I If sueh a thinj;- had been attempted, it wduld, aH a matter of fact, have leaked out > — A. Yes ; it stands to reasun (he cn.'ws woulil have been inioble to keep it to ihcniselves. 102. (j. They woidil tell it either to their associates on board or alter petting ashore '. — ./. They oould not keep it. in;j. Q. After the hunlirs t;et aboard at night, they usurMy recount whether they lost any seals, and in speakiii}; of their loss, it woidd nieiin those seals that would sink, not those that esea|ie': — ./. If they lost anv, they would not tell it at all, but if they suid< any, they would speak of it. lUI. Q, Vou are at present ii shiji-owncr, Captain Laing ? — A. Yes. 10.'). Q. You have had {>reat op|)()rtunilies of bearing t'n.m all sources matter relative to the seal lisliini; ?— 1. Yes. lofi. lias it bieii noticed that the skins taken last year in the liehring's Sea were smaller than usual r — A. .Miout the same general size. 107. Q. Is it generally known tiiat the seals caught on the Copper Island are l)ett((r than the averager — A. 1 have never seen them, but it is reported they are better. 108. Q. It is reported also that seals caught in January, Marcli, and April are better than any in Uehring's Sea; (hey say the ("in- is better? — A. They say so, but I ilon't know that you can see any diU'erence. 10!). Q. It has been said that the fur of the seals caught during the winter and spring months is light r The fur of all animals in cold climates is thicker in winter ? — A. I liavo never noticed that with seals. 110. Q. .\ few years ago it was said that the Mchring's Sea skins were the best? — A. It has been so reported, but T don't think there is any difference. 111. Q. The "grey pup" of this year will be a " l> wn pup" ne.\t year? — A. Vcs ; a "li-year-old " or " brown jjup." 112. Q. Do the hunters usually follow the grey pups with the same zeal as they do the other seals? — A. Tliey can't tell the diirercnce till they arc actually "on top of them." 113. f. And they are apt to shoot little as well as big ? — A, Yes; everything they come across. 114. Q. Were the Indian hunters more successful last year than Whites? — A, No, they were not. It was a "stand oil" between them. The only dillcrence is that the Whites will risk more than the Indians. 11"). Q. The expensive wages, cost of outfitting schooners, considered, don't you think that 4 <lollars per skin a high figure for hunters? — A. It is. IK). Q. How many boats does the average schooner carry ? — A. About six and the stern l)oat. 117. Q. And each boat takes three white men? — A. Yes, a hunter, a boat- puller, and a boat-steerer. 118. Q. The ship furnishes the boat, [guns, and outfit? — A. Yes, the whole outfit of guns, ammunition, provisions, wages for the two men, and pays the hunter so much per skin. 119. Q. .\t the present time, how much per skin? — A, 3 to 4 dollars. 120. Q. With Indian crews ? — A. They furnish their own canoe, spears, and outfit; one Indian steers: but the vessel finds them in provisions only. Tlie last two or three seasons some vessels have sup|)lied giuis and ammunition. 121. Q. Does the Indian get 1 dollars per skin ; does he out of that pay his own boat-helper ? — A, Yes, he pays out of his rate per skin. The ship pays the steerer nothing. ]'2'2. Q. Therefore, if the Indian crews were as profitable, (hey arc the cheapest ; if they get as many skins ? — A. Yes, if you can get them. 128. Q. Is the Indian a good hunter, in your experience? — A. Yes, Sir. 124. Q. Bold and intrepid ?— ^. Yes, when he is in his canoe nothing will scare him. I have seen an ohi bull seal psize a canoe, and the Indians would get into it again, bail the water out, and go o hunting as though nothing had happened. 12C. Q. Is the Indian lazy, or Joes he seem anxious tt) pl-ocetd in tnfe hunt from [672j 2 B 2 X ■ mnmpiim?' 188 day to day ? — A. In fine weather, yes, but when the sea is " choppy " he would usually rather stay aboard. 126. Q. His canoe is not quite so strong as the sealing-boat ? — A. No, nut quite. 127. Q. Have there been many accidents among the Indians — loss of life? — A, Not since, I think, 1887, when a schooner foundered with ail aboard. 128. Q. Do yon thinl< tiiat as the years pass along the Indians, as well as tlie Whites, get more expert in seal-hunting ? — A. Yes, they do. 129. Q. Notwithstanding all the ships in the fleet on the ocean, you would adhere tu your statement that you don't think there is any noticeable decrease in the number of seals ? — A. Yes ; I do not think so. If the vessels had been let alone in Behring's Sea last year, we would have had a bigger catch than any previous year. 130. Q. Do you think. Captain Laing, if they would cease killing seals in the Pribylofi" Islands it would increase the number of seals on the coast? — A. I think it would. 131. Q. If the rookeries were undisturbed by anything, you think the seals would be more plentiful ? — A. I do. 132. Q. Have you any opinion to ofl^er as to killing seals on the islands doing more iiarm than anything else? — A. I think the American people are doing more harm by killing seals and interfering with them on their rookeries or seal islands than we hunters do on the coast. 133. Q. You have never heard of any rookery along the coast? — A. I never heard of one. There is a rookery of sea lion off Queen Charlotte Island, but I never heard of any of seals. (Signed) A. D. LAING. Sworn before me, this 25th day of January, a.d. 1892. (Signed) A. K. Milne, Collector of Customs. January 25, 1892. William Cox, present master of the schooner "Sapphire," of Victoria, called and examined by Collector Milne : — 1. Q. You are engaged in the sealing business, Captain Cox? — A. Yes, I have been master of the sealing schooner " Sapphire " for the last four years. 2. Q. How many boats do you carry in jour outfit ? — A. I carry canoes and an Indian crew. 3. Q. With the exception of how many white men to navigate ?—il. Seven white people I carry for navigating the vessel. 4. Q. The number of Indians ? — A. The last two years I have had twenty-eight north to Behring's Sea. 5. Q. And how many canoes? — A. Fourteen canoes. 6. Q. Had yon more canoes on the coast ? — A. Yes, I have had twenty-four canoes while on t!ie coast. 7. Q. When you finally leave for Behring's Sea, you drop a number of the Indians, and only take about fourteen canoes with you ? — A. Yes. 8. Q. Do you prefer Indian crews to white men ? — Yes, I do. 9. Q. What are your reasons for the preference? — A. Well, I get along better with them for one thing ; there is more honour among them than among the average white crew in this business. They don't make an agreement to-day, and break it to-morrow if they see a chance to make a little more. 10. And they don't quarrel among themselves ? — A. No; and you can generally trust them more. 11. Q. They are more profitable too, are they not ? — Yes, a little more. 12. Q. They furnish their own canoes?— i4. Yes, and spears and boatmen; and it is not such a heavy outfit, but their canoes are light and easily broken by the heavy seas. 13. Q. They are better then aboard a large vessel? — A. Yes, but you have to be very careful — the canoes are "dug-outs" and easily shattered. 14. Q. Apart from gettiof; along easier with the Indians, tho experience it m he would !. No, not I of life?— veil as the you would rease in the let alone in ly previous seals in the 1. I think it seals would lands doing doing more islands than —A. I never , but I never I. LAING. toria, called Yes, I have anoes and an p — A. Seven twenty-eight twenty-four umber of the along better g the average and break it can generally more. )oatmen ; and >roken by the It you have to experience is just about the same as with a white crew ?— i4. Yes, the skins cost about the same in the end. 15. Q. Do the Indian crews venture out during the stormy weather as much as the white men ? — A. Yes, almost as freely. I have had the same crew so long now that they will do anything I wish them to do. 16. Q. Do you take them down the coast?— i4. Yes, and up the coast and on into Behring's Sea. 17. Q. They spear all their seals? — A. The greater number of them, yes, but sometimes shoot ; they spear all the <* sleepers." 18. Q. What proportion do you think they shoot ? — A. They shoot, probably, twenty out of the hundred; but I think now the fleet is getting so large there are more wake seals, that consequently they did more more shooting with me last year than ever before. They never shoot a slviOj>Ipn: seal. 19. Q. Do you think the seals are getting more shy on account of the larger fleet of vessels ? — A. Yes, they are much more shy. 20. Q. Do the Indians approach the seals from leeward ? — A. No ; the Indian always goes "across on the wind;" he pulls up almost in range of it, and goes across the wind. They have a sort of idea that the seal sleeps with one eye open, hence the way they approach. 21. Q. When they heave the spear, the barb holds fast?— ^. Yes; if they strike the seal at all, they cannot lose it. 22. Q. Therefore the percentage of seals killed by Indians and lost would be very small? — A, I would really count it nothing. If they did lose one by the spear pulling out of the blubber it would not kill the seal, as it heals so quickly again. 23. Q. The barb holds them, and they have no chance to sink ? — A. Yes- 24. Q. Therefore the percentage of loss is nothing ? — A. I would not reoko'i >t anything. 25. Q. The loss they make is only when firing at a travelling seal ? — A. Yes. 26. Q. And that loss would be by the animal escaping ? — A. Yes. 27. Q. You would not consider it lost, then ? — A. No. If not hit in a vital part it is not lost, for the Indian fires at a close range, and there are two in a boat, and almost sure of it before the shot is fired, because they can't sink far before they are right on to it. 28. Q. So the percentage of the seals lost by Indian hunters, " sleeping " and not " travelling," would be how much ? — A. With sleeping seals there is no loss. In travelling seals there are none lost, only in escaping. Last year I saw a great number of seals brought in that had been shot before. 29. Q. F'rom personal knowledge and observation, you are satisfied that a flesh- wound made in the seal would heal rapidly and not injure the seal? — A. Yes; the shot seems to s«,rike in the fatty parts or blubber, and does not seem to hurt the animal, as it closes over and soon heals. 30. Q. In the months of February, March, and April, have you seen a marked number of female seals bearing young killed? — A. Yes; in winter there are a number. 31. Q. Does that mean "barren" cows? — A. No; on the coast we get them "with young." I have not seen many "barren cows" out here in winter. 32. C'. During the months of February, March, and April, what would you say was the proportion of males to females? — A. I have only done one winter's sealing, and that winter they would be fully one-half females during February and March. 33. Q. That is, there would be as many females as bulls and grey pups ? — A. Yes ; I have never seen a female grey pup on the coast. That is a yearling grey female seal; that is corroborated by the Indians. All the yearlings seen by me have been males. 34. Q. That is well known, you say, by the Indians? — A. Oh, yes. They remark this. • •••••» 38. Q. But there is a larger number of males killed than females in April, May, and June? — A. Yes; In those three months we get a larger number of males ; bulls from 3 to 4 years old ; all about the same size. 89. Q. Your opinion is that the females, after the month of May, hasten on to the Behring's Sea ? — A. Yes. 40. Q. Now, from the beginning of the f«ealing season, when you start out this 190 time of year (January), till the time you enter Hohrin^'s Sea, what is your opinion as to tiu> pereontafie of f'onialc seals, iiieliidiii;;- l>()lli heariiti;- and liarren rows, killed? \\l)at would he the proportion of female seals, inelnilin};- both hearing- ami barren cows, killed ? What would lie the proportion of females as compared with the hulls r — A. Uii;lit up te the Sluimig'an Islands r 41. Q. Ves. Would it he (iO per eerit., or 70 per cent., or what?— /I. Yes, I thirdv it would he about Gr> or 70 per cent, ol' males, and the remainder mixed eows — bearing; and l)arren eows. 41?. Q. j\bout what percentai;e of barren eows 'f— J. I thiuk about e(pially divided : about 15 per cent, of barren and I.'') |)er ecnt. of bearing eows, and 70 per cent, of bulls, would pretty near represent the eateh on (he upper and lower coast. 4;5. Q. There is an opinion expressed that a seal pup will not swim ; some people say so? — A. I have seen three with their dams in the water on the Alaskan coast. II. Q. How far from shore? — A. 40 or ;'tO miles from shore, in the month of June. 45. Q. Is it your opinion that they would be born in the water ? — A. Yes, or on the kelp. Seals mate in tiie water, sleep in the water, and 1 have seen pups taken from tlv dead mother on the vessel, and thrown overboard and swim about awhile in the water, i have watched such jiups swim about for half-an-hour or more. They seemed to have no dillieulty in swimminj;. 4l). Q. Yon have never seen or heard of a Canadian sealing-schooner attempting to raid the Pribylolf Islands .' — ,1. I have never heard of one. 47. Q. If such a thing '.id been done or attempted it wouhl be sure to be known among sealers?— /I. \es; it would be impossible to keep it a secret. 48. Q. Is it your o|)inion th.at our ship-owners and masters have done every- thing they coulil possibly uo to discourage anything of that kind? — A. Yes; everything. 4'.). Q. What has been the general distance you have scaled — the distance from the seal islands? — A. From lOU to 140 miles. I was within SO miles of them last year; that was the nearest I was to them. 50. Q. Of course your men on board woidd, if thev had ever been engaged in such raiding of the islands, certainly have told their (ellows 'r — A. Yes, it would soon have become known, .'il. Q. It is well known to all sealers that certain schooners have raided those islands ?—.-i. Yes, during 1889 r.nd 1890. f)l*. Q. Do you remember what their names are? — .4. fes ; the American sciiooner " Mollie Adams," "George R. White," and others. 52, Q. Do you remcnd)cr any other schooner raiding the islands? — A. Yes; the German schooner " Adele." C}S. Q. It was well known that it was a German vessel .' — A. Oh, yes. 64. Q. Those American vessels that raided tiie Pribylolf Islands recruited their crews — where? — A. I think the " .Mollie Adams" reeitiited her crew at Gloucester. ,^5. Q. In the United States r — .1. Yes j she litted up in Port Townscnd, Washington. 5G. Q. Did you ever hear of riy American vessels fitting out at Sand Point to raid the islands ? — A. I do not remendier it. .')7. Q. Were you ordered out of Mehring's Sea last \ear r — A Yes. o8. Q. |{y whom?— J. The British steamer "Porpoise." 51). Q. On being ordered out of the Sea, you immediately eom|)lieil V — A. Yes ; I came right away. (iO. Q. Did you lower your boats afterwards i" — A. I did not, I came right out of the Sea, (Jl. Q. What month was that? — A, 0th August. 62. Q. Had you not been ordered out, were you in good hunting ground? — A. Oh, yes, (j'6. Q, Were the seals plentiful at the time you were warned ; that is, as plentiful as^you had previously seen theml' — A. Yes ; just as thick as ever. (14, Q. What was your catch up to the time you were warned out? — A. 2,434 in Behring's Sea. 05. Q. What was your coast catch? — A. 1,008 on the coast, and 2,434 in the Sea. 66. Q. Had you been unmolested for aauthcr thirty days your chances were ; rtn I •'"'!'M''il''''Mfia!r ■ "i r opinion vn cows, iiiiig ami I reel with A. Yes, I ixed cows t i'i|iially lul 70 per nd lower ill) ; some J Alaskan month of 1. Yes, or ioon |)ups .'iin alioiit ii-hour or ttcmptins;- sure to be t. )ne every - —A. Yes; ancc from tliein last ngapfed in it would idcd those American — A. Yes; iitcd their loiK'oster. 'ownscnd, Point to A. Yes ; I iii;ht out ;roiind ? — lat is, as -A. '2,rSi '2,434 in nces were n^MMi tmm ^m mnn 191 good for a larpfo catch ? — A. Yes ; our cimnccs were good for quite doubling our catch. 07. Q. Your |)riiK'ip;iI ground for scalini;- you Ibiiiid — where? — A. About 100 miles westward of tiie Islands of St. Georpe and St. Paul. I took 1,000 in four days there. TiS. ',' During liiat time, wlien you were getting seals so quickly, w-as your jier- ccntage of loss greater there than on the coast? — .1. \o ; tliev were very (piiet. Oi). Q. Yon have stated that, from your personal observation, you think the seals were as plentiful last year as you have ever seen them in Mehring's Sea? — A. Yes; much more so than I t ver saw them before. 70. (J. More so at adistance of 100 to l;?() miles from tiie nearest seal island ? — A. Yes. 71. Q. AVhat course would tiiat lie from the Priliyioff Islands? — A. About west. 72. Q. At the time you were sealing tiiero were there any other Canadian schooners in your company? — A. Yes; the '' .\iinie C. .Moore," (he "Carmelite," and the " Ariel." They had all an average (•••ttch. Q. Have you ever heard ol tiie McLeans raiding Coppf^r Islands?— A. 73. Yes. 74. 75. Q. Do you believe they did actually raid them'.' — A. Yes. Q. Did you hear the story of their going, with three boats of the "Welister" and '• City of Sun Diego" in a crowd, landing at a passage between the rocks and the mainland of the island, and st.iiKJmg there, where tliv water was swift, aiifl shooting tli(> seals as they passed through',' — ,(. Yes; but they lost a great many. The captain of the "San Diego" said that they diil'iit get one-tenth of what they shot. 70. Q. II is (he pre\;iiling opinion among tlu^ sealers tli.at the "J. Hamilton Lewis" was seized for landing on the islands': — A. \'es ; the Uiissians had been watching her. She was seized for actually raiding the islands. 77. (J. You didn't go to (he Copper Island side at all r — A. I did not. 7!'. (j. In lea\ ing Hehring's Sea, where did you come out throu<^li V — A. Throiigh the I'oiir .Mountain Pass. 70. (j. After you had been w.uned out, did you speak any other cutter? — .1. I did not. so. Q, Did you sec any seals from the time you were warned out till the time you came through the pass r — ^1. They were just as thick as ever within 40 miles of Ihv Four Mountain Pass. We were (wo days sailing through them. It grieved us very nuich, I can (ell you, (o sail tiirough seals and couldn't touch them. SI. Q. 'J'he I'our .Mountain Pass is about wh.at longitude ': — ,(. " 17'i Pass" we call it. 82. Q. Hut you say there wimc plenty of seals from the time you were warned up to within 40 miles r)l' this pass': — .1. Yes ; just as thick as where we had left. S.'?. Q. Will you state in direct evidence, as though in Court, that, as far as your kn()wl<»dg(> goes, no Caii;uliaii sealer, directly or indirectly, ever raided or attempted (o raid the seal islands: — .1. I h.ave had ample opporiiinity of learning if such had been the c;ise, and I know ol' none. Cajitain C«)X, continuing, said : 1 didn't take one " bearing " female seal last season in Hehiing's Sea. I hiive (aken a few which were evidently '• witii milk." St. Q. W'li.it percentage do yon say ':- .(. There might be Ti per cent, of wli.at I took which had had young; t here was midcnce of having had young; whe(hur thcv had last year or nol 1 do not know. ^Signed) WILLIAM COX. Sworn before ine this 2.')lh day of .ianuary, 1892. (Signed) A. R. Mii.yi;, Collector of Customs. ^ u •■« UNITED STATES. No. 2 (1892). COPY OF A DESPATCH FROM HER MAJESTY'S MINISTER AT WASHINGTON INCLOSING A TREATY BETWEEN HER MAJESTY AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR ARBITRATION CONCERNING THK SEAL FISHERIES IN BEHRING'S SEA. Presented to both Houses of Parliainent by Command of Her Majesty, March 1892. LONDON: PRINTED FOR HER MAJESTY'S STATIONERT OFKICK BY HARRISON AND SONS, ST. MARTIN'S LANE, PRINTERS IN ORDINARY TO HRR HAJEt<TT. And to be purchaacd, cither dircrtly or through any Bookseller, from EYRE AND SPOTTISWOODE, East Harding Street, Plebt 3ratET, E.G., and 32, Abingdon Street, Westminster, S.W, ; ok JOHN MENZIES & Co., 12, Hanover Street, Edinburgh, and 90, West Nile Street, Glasgow; or BUDGES, FKiGIS, and Co., 104, GRAtroii Street, Duuik. . [C— 6634.] Price Id. Copy of a [)esi)iitch fioni Her Majesty's Minister at Washington, inclosing a 'IVeaty between Her Majesty and the United States of America for Arbitration concerning the Seal Fisheries in Behring'vS Sea. Sir J. Pntincefote to the Marquis of Salinbury. — {Itccdved March 14.) My liord, Washimjton, March 4, 1802. r ILVVE till! honour to iiiolose liorcwitli the Ik'hriii^'s Sea Arbitration Conven- tion, whifli was sii^neil by Mr. Ulaino and myself on the 21)tli February. I have, &('. (Si-nc(l) .HJLIAN PAUNCEEOTE. Inelosurc, Treat;/ between Her Majestij and the United States of Americn for Arbitration concerning the Seal Fisheries in Jiehring's Sea. Signed at Washington, Feliruary 29, 1892. HEll Majesty the Queen of the United Kincfdom of Great IJritain and Ireland and the United States of Ameriea, being desirous to provide for an amicable settlement of the questions which have arisen ])etwecn their respective Governments concerning the jurisdictional rights of the United States in the waters of Behring's Sea, and concerning also the preservation of the fui'-seal in or hal)itually resorting to the said sea, and the rights of the citizens and sul)j(>etsof either country as regards the taking of fur-seal in or habitually resorting to the said waters, have resolved to submit to arbitration the questions involved, and to the end of concluding a Convention for that purpose have appointed as their respective Plenipotentiaries : Ui>r Majesty the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Sir Julian I'auneofote, G.'MI.G., K.C.iJ., Her Majesty's Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary to the United States; and the President of the United States of Ameriea, James G. IJlaine, Secretary of State of the United States ; Who, after having communicated to cacli other their respective Full Powers, which were fiuuid to l)e in due and proper lorm, iiavc agreed to and concluded the following Articles : — APriCLE 1. The questions which have arisen between the Goxcrnnient of ller Britannic Majesty and the Government of the United States coneerniiig the jurisdictional rights of the' United States in the waters of Ik'hring's Sea, and concerning also the preservation of the fur-seal in or habitually resorting to the said sea, and the rights of the citizens and subjects of either country as regards tin- taking of fur-seal in or habitually resorting to the said waters, shall be submitted to a Tribunal ol Arbitration, tn be composed of seven Arbitrators, w!'-o shall be appointed in the following manner, that is to say : two shall be named by Her Britannic Majesty ; two shall })e named by the President of the United States ; his Excellency the President of the French Republic shall be jointly requested by the High Contracting Parties to name one -, His Majesty the King of Italy shall be so requested to name one ; and Ilis Majesty the King of Sweden and Norway shall be so requested to name one. The seven Arbitrators to be so named shall be jurists of distinguished reputation in their respi'ctive countrie-:. \'2%)'\ . ■--■■•'--■■ \ — 3Wk=d . JEai?.-s.-:.i!_*rnat'; ■Sf'^IJ'TSJtfl'-^'il ington, United le Seal 4, 18!)2. n Convon- EFOTE. concfrnmq 1892. nd Ireland settlement Lionceming s Soa, and ;o the said e taking of submit to on for that id Ireland, linary and ited States vers, which e following Britannic onal rights also till' e rights of -seal in or Lrhitratioii, ! following two shall njsident of Parties to e ; and His one. The ion in their 8 In case of the death, absence, or incapacity to serve of any or either of tlie said Arbitrators, or in the event of any or either of the said Arbitrators omitting or declining or ceasing to act as such, Her Britannic ?»Injcsty, or the President of the United States, or his Excellency the President of the Erench llepublic, or His Majesty the King of Italy, or His Majesty the King of Sweden and Norway, as the case may he, shall name, or shall he requested to name forthwith, another person to aci as Arbitrator in the place and stead of the Arbitrator originally named by such head of a State. And in the event of the refusal or omission for two months after receipt of the joint request from the High Contracting Parties of his Excellency the President of the Erench l{ei)ublic, or llis Majesty tht; King of Italy, or His jNlajesty the King of Sweden and Norway, to nam(! an Arbitrator, either to fill the original appointment or to fill a vacancy as above provided, then in such ease the npp'iintnu'iit shall lie made or the vacancy shall be filled in such manner as the High Contracting Parties shall agree. ARTICLE II. The Arbitrators shall meet at Paris within twenty davs after the delivery of the counter-eases nientioned in Article IV, and sliall proceed impartially and carefully to e> amine and decide the questions that have been or shall be laid before them as herein provided on the part of the Governments of Her Britannic Majesty and the United States respectively. All questions consider! d by the Tribunal, including the final decision, shall be determined by a majority of all the Arbitrators. Each of the High Contracting Parties shall also name one person to attend tlie Tribunal as its Agent to represent it generally in all matters connected with the arbitration. Aim CLE III. The printed ease of each of the two ])arties, accompanied by the documents, the official corresjxiiulence, and other evidenc(! on which each relies, shall be delivered in duplicate to each of the Ai'1)itiatois and to the Agent of the other party as soon as may bo after the appointment of the members of the Tribunal, l)ut within a period not exceeding three months from the date of the exchange of the latifieations of this Treaty. ARTICLE IV. "Within three months after the delivery on both sides of the printed case, either party may, in like manner, deliver in du])licatc to each of the said Arbitrators, and to the Agent of the otiier party, a counter-case, and additional documents, correspondence, and evidence, in reply to the case, documents, correspondence, and evidence so presented by the other party. 1 i', however, in consequence of the distance of the place from which the evidence to b(! presented is to be procured, either party shall, within thirty days after the receipt by its iVgcnt of the ease of the otlier l>arty, give notice to the other jiarty that it requires additional time for the delivery of such counter-case, documents, corre- spondence, and evidence, such additional time so indicated, but not exceeding sixty days beyond the three months in this Article provided, shall be allowed. If in the case svibmitted to the Arbitrators either party shall have specified or alluded to any report or document in its own exclusive possession, without annexing a copy, such party shall be bound, if the other ])arty thinks proper to apply for it, to furnish that party with a copy thereof; and either party may call upon the other, through the Arbitrators, to produce the originals or certified copies of any papers adduced as evidence, giving in each instance notice thereof within thn-ty days after delivery of the case ; and the original or copy so requested shall be delivered as soon as may be, and within a period not exceeding forty days after receipt of notice. ARTICLE V. It shall be the duty of the Agent of each party, within one month after the expiration of the time limited for the delivery of the counter-case on both sides, to deliver in duplicate to each of the said Arbitrators and to the Agent of the other party a printed argument showing the points and refciTing to the evidence upon which his Government relies, and either party may also support the same before the [299] B 2 Arbitrators by oral argument of counsel ; and tli(5 Arbitrators may, if thoy dcsiro further elucidation with regard to any point, require a written or printed statement or argument, or oral argument by counsel, upon it ; but in suv '; case the other party shall be entitled to reply either orally or in writing, as the case may bo. AllTICLE VI. In deciding the nmttci-s submitted to the Arbitrators, it is agreed that the following five points shall be submitted to them, in order that their award shall embrace a distinct decision upon eacli of said five points, to wit: — 1. What exclusive jurisdiction in the sea now known as the Bebring's Sea, and what exclusive rights in the seal fisheries therein, did Russia assert and exercise prior and up to the time of the cession of Alaska to the United States? 2. How far were tiiesc claims of jurisdiction as to the seal fisheries recognized and conceded by Great Britain ? 3. Was the body of Wtater now known as the Bebring's Sea included in the phrase " Pacific Ocean," as used in the IVeaty of 1825 between Great Britain and IJussia; and Aviiat rights, if any, in the Bebring's Sea, were held and exclusively exercised by Russia after said Treaty ? 4. Did not all the rights of Russia as to jurisdiction and as to the seal fisheries in Bebring's Sea east of th(> water boundary, in the Treaty between the United States and Russia of the 3()th March, 18()7, pass unimpaired to the United States under that Tnjaty ? 5. ITas the United States any right, and, if so, what right, of protection or property in the fur-seals freciuenting the islands of the United States in Behring Sea when such seals are found outside the ordinarj' 3-mile limit? ARTICLE VII. If the determination of the foregoing questions as to the exclusive jiu'isdiction of the United States shall leave the subject in such position that the concurrence of Great Britain is necessary to the establislmient of Regulations for the proper pro- tection and preservation of the fur-seal in, or habitually resorting to, the Behring Sea, th(> Arbitrators shall then determine what concurrent Regulations outside the juris- dictional limits of the resjjective Governments are necessaiy, and over what Maters such Regulations should extend, and to aid them in that determination, the Report of a Joint Commission, to be appointed by the respective Governments, shall be laid before them, Mith such other evidence as either Government may submit. The High Contracting Parties furthermore agree to co-operate in secui'ing the adhesion of other Powers to such Regulations. ARTICLE VIII. The High Contracting Parties having found themselves unable to agree upon a reference which shall include the question of the liability of each for the injuries alleged to have been sustained by the other, or by its citizens, in connection with the claims presented and urged by it ; and, being solicitous that this subordinate question should not intornipt or longer delay the submission and determination of the main questions, do agree that either may submit to the Arbitrators any question of fact involved in said claims and ask for a finding thereon, the question of the liability of either Government upon the facts found to be the subject of further negotiation. ARTICLE IX. The High Contracting Parties having agreed to appoint two Commissioners on the part of each Government to make the joint investigation and Report contemplated in the preceding Article VII, and to include the terms of the said Agreement in the present Convention, to the end that the joint and several Reports and recommenda- tions of said Commissioners may be ir due form submitted to the Arbitrators, should the contingency therefor arise, the said Agreement is accordingly herein included as follows : — Each Government shall appoint two Commissioners to investigate, conjointly with the Commissioners of the other Government, all the facts baring relation to seal life in Bebring's Sea, and the measures necessary for its proper protection and preservation. ■P" "" «<■»■ The four Commissioners shall, so far as they may be able to agree, make u joint Rep«)rt to each of the two Governments, and they shall also report, either jointly or severally, to each Government on any points upon which they may be unable to agree. These Reports shall not bo made public until they shall be submitted to the Arbitrators, or it shall appear that the contingency of their being used by the Arbitrators cannot arise. ARTICT.E X. Each Government shall pay tlic expenses of its members of the Joint Commission in the investigation referred to in the preceding Article. ARTICLE XI. The decision of the Tribunal shall, if possible, bo made within three months from the close of the argument on both sides. It shall be made in writing and dated, and shall be signed by the Arbitrators who may assent to it. The decision shall he in duplicate, one copy whereof shall be delivered to the Agent of Great Britain for his Government, and the other copy shall be delivered to the Agent of the United States for his Government. ARTICLE XII. Each Government shall pay its own Agent and provide for the proper remunera- tion of the counsel employed by it and of the Arbitrators appointed t)y it, and for the expense of preparing and submitting its case to the Tribunal. All other expenses connected with the arbitration shall be defrayed by the two Governments in equal moieties. ARTICLE XIII. The Arbitrators shall keep an accurate record of their proceedings, and may appoint and employ the necessary officers to assist them. ARTICLE XIV. The High Contracting Parties engage to consider the result of the proceedings of the Tribunal of Arbitration, as a full, perfect, and final settlement of all the questions referred to the Arbitrators. ARTICLE XV. The present Treaty shall be duly ratified by Her Britannic JIajesty and by the President of the United States of America, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate thereof ; and the ratifications shall be exchanged cither at Washington or at London within six months from the date hereof, or earlier if possible. In faith whereof, we, the respective Plenipotentiaries, have signed this Treaty, and have hereunto affixed our seals. Done in duplicate, at Washington, the 2'.)th day of February, 18J)2. (LS.) JULIAN PAUNCEEOTE. (L.S.) JAMES G. BLAINE. i »ii ii» ij< i>i »» ii i - iiiiiii ^» ^^FT^^mmfmrn a 8 2=1 ^/ 3 5- g -Z a " - f^ 3» _ a s- <^ 2. ^ D p S = "^ ^ 5- 3 cc S H .s j;. r §• B * " 3 3. i? i: 5J f* B — ■ 5 » o a> = I' ■>:. n% f \ 1—1 H K e cc K t2! p """^^■•••IPP be 'Is