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Kngland. on the Huhjcet of Fortilicationn and the Defence of Canada gcncra% I Tho licport and documcutH alluded to have rcforoucc— rcB Jt?n/tL*!lT''''?.f '"/ ""'•', ^^ ^'""' ^ "• ^*- ''^•^"■"^"^y °*' State for tho Colonies, ForScationH' ^ ^ ^^""''' ^'"'"■'"'^'" *"' ^'" ^°''" ''^'^l"''^'^' f""- "'« contemplated f "5 J" tho expediency, ae urged by them on II. M. Oovcrnn.cnt, of maintaining « tie Dommiou as large a Force of llcgular Troops as poMsiblc. 3rd. Tho inadvisability of wi Uidrawiug from Canada, a.s proposed by tho War Office of oZniC " '^' ^™' '""^ Ammunitiou hitherto kept in rcscTc in the nr.f >rt!!'l" J''-*" "^f ''j^^^P^'^f «« '"^J ^^J «'^'" wltli thc Imperial authorities reBpecting a claim ^^S^V^r^^''''''r^'^'^^ ^^\3i'l- l^'^i"o' lor aau.ageV.auscd to the Jlinttokl ntlod iK^uud on lean lo i,hi« C.ve.nnient and lately returned into store. The Committee fully concur in the r.ipreseutations nuide and the proceedings taken by the Delegates u, the several nutters above referred to, and advise that their iteport and accompanying documents bo laid before I'arlian.ent by Message from Your E.xcellcney. Certitied, WM. II. LEE, Clerk, Privy Council. IIEPORT. a. a B., To Jl(^ E.r.m.yt^on,U Monday. Sir ^o^J^^^^ October l..t. U. cou^r w.th Her Majesty s^L ,_^^^^^^ ^^--^"^'1 ""^.f oX i. '-d thvou.h Hubjcct of Fp'-tif^^'^ ^,^,^^5"^ Hon the Secretary of State J^^J>?^'j^;,,„^ Ijuestion.. couinmnicationR with tlio l^'^''*^ ""^^j, ^f State lor War on V'°»^^ ''g;^! OrauviUe that the ^uarant^e for the lo_au vciuircd loi Maicstv's OovcrnmenW thy, ^'^^ t^lS: W:S^^ ^SS-^'ji-S t Si^o^l U of Uer M,-, ^ ^Eavl Granville \>^t'^™'='^X ,oXy d h. a Despatch to yf^^^f^'^'^x^ 1809 has been „,euton lli'-'«otwopomts«W)uldbttouv^^^^^ ^ ^"'^"^^^flfuec a n^c sure during.the rince our return to Canada ^^^^ !^" J\"t^, Government to ^^^^° J,^^\",; Jthe smu required received inliniatiDg tl 1'* T...?i,iaturc to authorize the K^^f ^°\'^ "A.-nilar Force to be Sent BOH-sion of the impcnal J^^S^^f ^J^^^^.tiut.', ^vith respect to t c ^^'^^ ^^,„„ot be t"thecont.xniJ^dedl^rUficaU n^^^^-^^^^^^^^^ ^ fnuS of T Ip' ^viU for tho miiintained in Canada, that altuoUoii ^^at a limited nunibcr 01 x f Sntoour viewBas '^^"Yl!^ ^c J^^^^^^ dated present continue to bo staioncd at certampo ^,_^^^ ^^rt^^So fV ' fir^t relating ^ Duriu" our stay in linf? and wo rccc^^ ^^^ ^Var UHico, .^^ 22nd1Suary, 1«4 75^^ crerXp-pnatcd f^^^^^^^^^^ a U) the number "^ ^'^««°^;^,"'''^!J^;„ruuitiou in «tore in Canada and pjop b.^^ .,^ ^ , reserve, and to f «^PP^ , tXadian Oovernment nho W <.^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ;-7ri"^|«s^ j-!s:;:^e^s to tt^-^^ * -^^ - ^'^"'^ ; S;;Ciri]tf^^^-r=^^^^ "^- -^^ aranvill,a.,^.^^n|^ *Y :,;;:;;d7u.o ncsorvei^^, ----,; trainhig^ifaeenain— -^--,:;^";i;^ entire -J';^ ^^^J'^^ emergency. rciuiro, at lea«t, f^V^.^n";" Uavini' 110 reserve to meet ""^y 5"'\,^„,,dian Government ot a roi^he ordinary colonial forco>am^ ^^^ ^^^ P^ ^^ \ t ,1^ Uie Bubject v».us not one With reference to the otl^-r ™^ ^ QranviUo that "''" • ^^^ „t' money by „„d mmiinWon would b" J?;'™' „(• „„„, KxeoUency >» ^;»™"^ ;„, ^, out dcp«tlur- f"' conscntca to aofcr tho withdrawal oF any portion (if llu^in or of tlin ninmunilion held in reserve, until next autumn, nnd that, with roupcol, |o thn iimount oifiiincd for dam!i-cs to L'. Ii., dot' iHt I, on the 1- pcvcrul throutrh ions*. jlhiiUho • wcyed in Imiieviid iplatcd by iu\enk tho Majesty's* /'s Govern .cordiuf2;ly. «) has been dvirinf-^the ^ ni required Force to be ■t cannot bo jyiU for the. vtion, dated Qrst relating ,s or held i" 5 withdraw 'a J ■■^ purchawi V, Dominion cd on U)an to Bubserjucntly ^6'.), in wbich J (juantity of ,c reduction of nider rifles iu >uiau organi'/.a c our foil. or tho regular , which would Ici't in Canada emergency, lovernmeut oi a ect wius not one >n of money by yal of TOcU armH miity (.f Bubmit ur departure for jril last has been iondeuce between Moposition, via: State for War lias •' / -( aiiiirt iHsucd on loan, Jlr. CardwcU, lor tho ron.sons |.;ivun in tli(( lottcrof liOth April last, from fcir hdward Lugard to Sir Frederic Kogor.-i, dooH not {\v\ warrautod in i-oUimuiyhiiig tho .All which is respectfully submiltoil. claim. Ottawa, L!Oth May, 18Ct). "">' ••'"' war ofllco, tlio lirHt relating 12th February^ 1869. *" "'*' number of brcechloaillng annn, rnul tho amount of ammunition I n, ,. n™cs.sary to be held in Canada a«i a rcHcrvo ; tho wwmd profcrriu'- a claim on the Oanadiau (Jovemment for £847 IHs. :iVd., on nomMint of damngo, &c., caus^ to tho I'inholil nflofl lasucd on loan to tho Canadian (lovornmcnt, and lat^ily returned into fitore. '.ord (.rcnvillc would bo glad to be furnished witli any olmorvatioiiH which you may wiah to 'itloj on the iwmts to which these IcttcrH r()lat(\ T am, Gentlemen, • Your obedient isorvant, hir O. I"J. (, 'art tor, Hart, ) and C W. MoDougall, Eaq,, C. B.j Sir II. KStor/cs to the Under Scaaaty of iiiafc, C. (K (^>3f-) Wau Ofpioe, nth February, 1869. Sm,--I am directed to acquaint you, for tho information of tho Seorotary of Rtato for tlio Colonics, that consequent upon tho rcduotionH whidi it ban been decided to mako in tho force now Btationed m the Dominion of Canada, Mr. H*Hjr(t,ivry Cardwcll luia had under his consideration tho very large supply of brcoch-loading unriH, iiith.'r appropriated for tho local forces mthc Dommion, or hold in rcsorvo at tlio novornl .lopoti^. t,., meet any rcnuircmcnt.s which might arise; aa also tho supply of ammuniti.>a of which tiioiv is a reserve of 20,000.- 000 round;,! J. ho numbers of tho maa of all kindN in'(W)KiflUvcly of tliaso iu possession of the regular troops are aa follows : — ■ .^ i Ajflp^opriatcd for Colonial Forces. Converted Snider Riflos 51 qqo Spencer Eiflos ..'.','.'.'.'.'.'....,.. '^ 000 Spencer Carbines ,'.!.'.'.'.*.'.",.".'.*.'.,.*.'" 1000 8t.arr Carbines '.'.!,!!!',',*.".'.!!,!!!!..]'!".'. 200 In store as reserve, (Snider) Sl'oOO 85,200 Mr. Caj-dwcU haa come to tho conclusion that no Im-g.) a roscrvo aa 31,000 firat cla.... arm,i is much greater than it is absolutely- requiwle to r.vhetluT Lord C.rnnville tlunk. i„«truetionH to thiH cffeet MrCMrdwc 1 .U )0 ^ I o '^ ^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^ .j.^^^ ^, ,,11 1 hnvc, &e., CSi^ncd,) H. K. STOIIKH, The Under Secretary "<". ^*f <;,■; Colonial Olliec. Si E. Lujard lo th. indcr Sarclar^j of ^Statc C. O. t'opy Wau Opfk.k, V2lh February, IHbit. ri'iles. . „ , nn„ornl Windham caused an inspection of a portion Lord Granville Nvmrcrccivo that «^°7^Va M 1 ia ()fficor and a elaim amountinj; to VoluutccrH especially provide that Colonial '^''^™\, Cardwcll docH not conceive that uiout by the Lieutenant General. 1 %fgS-^d,) EDWARD LUGAllD. The Under Secretary of State, Colonial Offi«5C. Lt. General Windham to the Secretary of State, W. 0. Copy. Head QtiARTERS, Montreal, 7tb February, 1808. ,,,,_! toe the honor. o^cb^^.C^^^^^^^^^^^ b„i„, „tu,ned ,u tlZX'i'^^^'''^^-''^^^'' rC»."I?Kih« .™s.»e.. ana ,o U,o '°"T:"l.>eclle.c, ".« <>SSiO«Si SeTSi V t„o Go?e,.Men.B throu.b charffCrt for damages and deficiencies Deiu^ the Colonial Office. . ^„ „f these Enfields have been handed m I now h.'^ to enclose a '^<>t«« ^^f ^^j^^^^C J^^^ on His Excellency the Governor up to this date and to ^f^f^^^^^^^^^^^^ Je „1 SompW«^t as early date as possible. General the expediency of their return utiuf, i I have, &c., (Signed,) C. A. WINDHAM, Lt. General, Comd. the Forces in B. N. America. The lit. Honble.l „ ... The Secretary of Stfttcior War. cfl to withdraw t bcforo {;ivinvcrnmcnt ol the onial Militia and cspouHiblo for the not conceive that 3anadiau Govern Copy. The Ly. SupcHntcndent of Stores to Mia, , • J >^imcs to Mi/ttar^ SecvetaYy, Montreal. MaiTART Store Offipk, . Hrn,— With roforonno to tl.o l^nfini i nn Wootrenl, '{Oth August Ififi? "™eru imi> onloro,! t.i I.n sent Jioni , r • ?"'" J^''"t>«. ""d Focunnn; oonvey„„co for them on o^rd of"/'"^''* ''" '•""••«(»<■"«' ^ ""RgOHt that thow, mm beforn ^ "^ «wern.ncnt VchhcI m (hat ro«no«f <•-„.„ „. 'v "ro properly packed n flm „i _. ' >^' "isponBod with, and tfmt fi.« -'"'""" "'ta a view to tho i I have, &o., (Sif,'ned,) EDWD. WILORKS.M, For Deputy 'yuj-t Tho Military accretary. Montreal, LUOAllD. 0. VRTERS, bruary, I8fi8. Huperintcndent t)f being returned in igcmcnt and to the )vcrnmcnt6 throu;j;h ave been handed in Icncy the Governor s posBiblc. WINDHAM, Lt. General, 9 in B. N. America. Ci. o O M «) ^ '■c 2. s 9 w CO N a o 13 ■a CI •a J' , o -Ai SI a) t: (a, o to a a a '^ ■r a o .a rs H S 'M »- M H )i Aj|t!Ar(^) VjUOAil,' "oiirij •"•'0 "uijiiod CO « • I ; — . . ' * ■0S81 ■9S8I nw?1t!^x ■C58I njo?ir,x eo I "^ u, ro a t 4<^ < > 4«V 1>^ 4 t <^*» 1^ 4- I^M London .0 ,y lU,u. Ocnl. «,«.&„- lla- ' M^,^, ^„„„, ',^^^, Nirrlh America. Copy. • 7 mI? War OPTirK, Himlor anuH may bo uhschhoJ i„ Ku'infl "" ''''"""''* '" «'"'■" ''" '''^ P'"^" "'' iouna iSS 1^ air'S;!.^';.,^.^;;:^'^ y- ti... ,. ^ ,.. ,.0.. by Hca, B,mrdM ofHJrvo; hL mid J^^Zo nh 1 i ' ""'" *" "^'^"' ^''"''"•''""I'i^'^ ol' transport dam,^a.H thereto or dotioin " Jr ^io^ft^ h^tinT'l '" T?' t '.'"""^ '""' '•'^^-^^ "'« And I am therolbro t« re^IoHt th t^^^"";; ,t 'J,;^^' to'ta^^^ """"'^■• 1 have, Ac,, The Lieut. General Con.nmi.dinf; ^"'' ' "'"' * '^<^-'^^^ f'^^« " Her Majesty'H PoreoH in British North Aineriea, Montreal. ((Jo ^"'"'" ^""'■' '^""^'''"'" ^'^ ^''"" *'^'^''-''«''^ «/ ^tate for War. Heap iinARTEus—CANAPA, ^^lontreal, 22nd Januaiy, ISGD. Hia,-In compliance with tho ir.Htruetion. in your lott.T ^ ..i' 21^1 March 18G8 Bills for damn.4 and del; cci^H t^H ! I . ' ^""'"'^"" <-^overnmc.nt. wore presented t<;^he Wi^ lllljli^tmour /T S tlS^ fS? ^«'i '^'- r"""' renewed apphoation for payment, I have beou iuforL.l tl...! n . -i ' •""'! ''! '"^'j^ '« « iM.niflUjr of Militia who is now ia Kn-dand "'"'""-'' ^'"''^ ""^ ^'"'^ "''o m the handa of the Htat«tte%olt,1Sitl£"Lrtt£^ '',T.t""'' ""''''' "- «--^"yo'' there is no ground whatever for withdrSn. tt d 1? "T '" l'^ '''^*' ^" "'^ °P'"i°». Canadian Government. wuuuraw.ng the claim made on this account ju^-uiust the' w.. SL:?7uTsi:i8"6rwS^ xzot?tr 'f -^ "-"^^^^ ^ ^^^-^-^^^-^ ^^^^ tear excepted. ' ' «'>P""»te for their return m good order, fair wear and 1 liavc, &c, (Signed,) 0. A. WINDHAM, The Right Honorable '"" *^™*"'^'^' Coiiimanding the Forces Tho Secretary oi" State for War. '" ^^^''8^' North .tVnieriOa. SlQ.. SiC. &C, Wmtminbtib Palaob IIOMI, o,„ w„, ., • 23r(l March, 1809. of H,n,uunitiou necoflHary to bo hel, MjWadVru r. ll u '""'^'"^ *""" ""'^ *''" """""^ Y..U kinJly Htato f, uh i, jour Si thl^t S O ' "^n^ '"^'f/f^U'-n^'J i»t<.Htoro. Iron, tho war office relate, .in,l wo ,avo ^unl. ,I,?in ■ * '" ^p'"*** *^ "^''^ "'" ^^^^ letU-rH .ivcn UB to eo,„j,ly with hi?LTSsi:i;".Sho; "'" "* »va.h»« ourselves of tho opportunity auwnu;;lL™irj I^hchf ,; ™r"t;^"' Y"""-'-^'-^: ««-« -•! tJ. amount of ihv. Hccrotary of Wa/pn),LH ^ wiU.Z T ^"""*^?' Vr ''"^"^ ^** »'^" ''«»'» ''onorablo roundH of aL,unltL ffbcfL^ !i^^ / r"'^* ^^'""^ ^'^"''^''' ""'^'"^^ 10,000,000 Mhul t.. loam wlS'r the Gove™S !^^^ ""SfS ^^'' «'^^^^"" ^«"''» ^' .u/i.H, .-m if H„, J.o will dofor the 3,P 1 L ? ^"'""^on would hko to purohueo my of the iLiiuK. so aa to Rivo tho Oovornment the opportunity of w the ar^ 'rcTS l'tS:t\t itvoT^Jf rtt/>'f '»" "^T^"^ "^ ^^ «'' that aH thiH (jufHtion i« not ono of thoso HT.i^l„ ["'"'? information of Karl (IranviUo «lovornmo„t,\nd aa it Tuld involt J^'i""^ "'^^ '^" ""'««••>« ^ ^^ i^l^ru^ |K.«t,K,no tho ^nving of hiH inBtruotirni for f J •?.,""'' V" ""r*"'*'' *''" ^'"^^ »'" War to m Bhall havo'had an opp^rtnnuH^^^^^^^ tSlT'l "^ ^i^ '^^'^ '^'^ »"«' "^•• (.'ovcrnor in Council ufon Turret" cS ^ """^ ^'^ tho consideratlou of tho liraiiviilo for tho consideration of tho Zhi,!;!",?' T J"*^' ''*''° 'I'f ^ «"^'"'» »« l^'"' organization in the vSLte^XT^^^ "Fcniann" have ^n^rX Sook^tho HnWn f M ^"J^ f'«|«>-,ng extinguished, U.at the tiona aguinnt (Jnn.ula thJ iT it b;i.n.n ,"f ""« '"°" ''« ("r «'«"• "o^ivo and inv^uling orK)ra- troopH" a rcduoS of e rctrardorX ' T "^^'"""- *^ V'« «<^««ti«° of tho^ular umdUho l^VniauK mth bo ™rS lit ..^ '•" ^^""'^'^ ''~' "^'^ t'-" attack of invasion of t^n.o p''^ ^''^'"• alH(. to Hubmit that in tho cvC of a v udJ?.^. ^ " •'^""^""?° "'^ ^'''"'"^»- >^" K' Canadian Militia for actua orvlfa y^ntrnfrC^^ "" "'^•'j"'? ""' "^*''' Uiat in addition to thofli tho^ffiSor« S '"""""M'^ y«"y ^'""ing and prcBcriboH also Bl.all receive a -r'ain amount of/oriyT^^^^^^^^^^ HTS, "' "-"J^^T "'"'*''' Uu,o of peace for tho yearly training of both 1 eT.S«„ ^i « '"''"''['^ *" ^'""'^^'^ ^" the lo;ust G5.000 CHJuverfccd Snider rmes wh oh nl^ T ° u'"f ''P'^'" "^"^^ '"l"''-«d «» int.nd..,l to be l.ft in Canmla £ the ul „/ 1^^^^^^^^^^ "'"''^^ ^^ ^'^ «"'« be „., re. "^r^- fefiort of Colonel Maedougali the Adjutant f Ji^nor,,! <,f' m;TA: " r/V / " . «^"""'l^. « the reduction of tho reserve of arms n CaLr o a\ • °^ ^''}"^\on tlio question of f ► i nl Pt)bniftry \nnt
    f, March 9, 1 SC)!). of the U,m •'';hr\ ::;!''i"' 1- mt!-'" '""? I'"^ ''""^■- '^ ''^'' '° accordance with ti.e de.iro ZXur^^^^^^ '" "''''''^ '^ '"^ proposed to din.ini.I. the Kuppij 01 rcsersL (.Sni. e, ) lliflrs and ammunition now in Canada; that the ouestion .,1' with of^S/er'f "'" 'T !"""'''' 'r ''-^'"'"l i« one of Imperial polL-y. L ^^.^ , a l^s f vud,ean..f ec,ur.e be best estimated by the Imperial Covrnnumt; aTthou^'l, in he event of any Midden emorironey re.|uirin^^ the Canadian Militia to be eali'^d ou f seVvi ee i . • 1" Til"' "" ":'"f "" i '''^^ ••' ""'"^ «"-'^'= i» ♦'"""'J'^ would obvrrodr^^^ officers of all tho h..ff.,li TJ • ' ... ' i" *''*'*"'■ *'"' "'^''«^" and non-eomm ssioned (Signed,) Tho Hon. tho Minister of Militia and Defence of Canada. P. L.MACDOUdALL, Colonel, Adjt. Gen. of Jlilitia. (Copy.) Canflda, No. 75. The Secretary of State /or the Colonies to the Governor General Downing Street, C. 0. to Dor.„te" ToTlTo !Jr P"™''" °f *^>° correspondence noted in the niar.in which L'2nd Feb., i.s'es, ' Si'° ''1™ f'f "^°'' "'^'^ ^''" ^- ^- ^"'i'''- ^"^ Mr. McDougall in enooMnK w. 0. 1' '™y and March laat, on the subject of two War Office letters dated Loiters of llih and respective y tho lltli nnrl 10*1, „c t.^ i, " ai v^iui-i- iLutrs, (i.iuu ]2,h Fobruurv. number of Krll 1 J- ^ of I-ebrunry; the first relating to the Sir E c.r,i.r' »r,.i L"^ j^, ™-^°'^*^'"^ •''™^- "-"'I t^^-^ ""^-"""t of ammunition i.ecc.s«ary to J^».;'9i*";'S'"';" rlUn r """^'' "" " ''''="'•'' *'»« ««>cond prefering a claim on the Cana- jep.y2.rdMa..!,. ;';-^7;™"^ent on account of damage caused to the Enfield rifles iUd T now enclose vouvo'- •%"?•'"" ^'°^*^'^°r"* ""'^ '■'''^1^ '"''t"''""'! ^"^0 store, tie sublet wbipriVrf'"''''°?.'"P''''' °f ^'''^ ^•'^t''^ correspondence C. 0. t,. AV. o., tne subjeet winch pa,ssed between this Office and the War Office subso- ^""^ April. i86i nt to the return fn rnnnJ„ «CC<:_ n t.t /-. ,. /- •"'/"■<-«, suo.si-- ,,r ^ .„ n n on 868. ,u.. .,u,.e ,.„„, .„ t»„.d;ji;G:£ss„rM;:'s:.x s;S£ 10 From tho War Office Icti-r of the 20tli instant, you will learn the decision adopted by the Secretary of State for War in rc.irard to these questions. Governor Genera!, ["he Right Iloiiorabie Sir John Young, Baronet, &c., &c., &c. I have, &c., (Signed,) GllANVILLE. (Copy.) aS'/V F. Rogers lo Under Secretary of State, War Office. Downing Street, 10th April, 18Ga. 1 yiR.—tnni directed by Earl Granville to acquaint you, for the information of Mr. Secretary Caldwell, that he referred to Sir 0. E. Carlier and to Mr. McDougall, the Cana- dian delegates in this country, tlie questions raised in the letters from the War Office of the 11th and l„th of February last, the first relating to the number of breech-loading arms and tho amount of ammunition necessary to be held in Canada as a reserve: the second preferring I nT, °°.t'ic Canadian Government for .£847 13s. 3|d. on account of damage caused to the l*intield rifles issued on loau to the Canadian Government and lately returned mto store. I am desired to enclose for Mr. Cardwell's consideration a copy of the 23rd March, 1869. ioply which has JDeen received from these gentlemen. Lord Granville concurs in the opinion that it would be unadvisablc at present that the contemplated reuuction of rifles and ammunition should be made, and he would recommend that these stores should be retained in the Dominion until the autumn. Tt will be observed that the Dek'g.ites are unable to give any opinion as to the course which tho ( anadian Government may wish to pursue with regard to the purchase of any of the arms now in store, but that this question will be submitted to the Canadian Government on their return to Ott^,wa. With regard to the question of payment fl.r damages caused to the Enfield rifles issued on loan 1 am desired to request to be informed of the decision which Mr. Secretary Caldwell may adopt on the present application of the Canadian Delcates. The Under T. cretary of State, Colonial Office. I am, &c., (Signed,) F. ROGERS. Sir Edward Lvgard to Sir F. Rogers . (Copy.) War Office, 20 th April, 1869. Sir,— I am directed by Mr. Secretary Cardwell to acknowlcdtrc the receipt of your letter oi the 10th instant with its enclosure from Sir Geo. E, Cart'ierand Mr. McDougall the Canadian delegates in this country, on the questions raised in the letters from this Department, ofthe 11th and 12th February last, respecting tho number of breech-loading arms, and the amount of amunition necessary to be held in Canada as a reserve and the claim on the Canadian Government for C81? I'Js. :ijd.. on account of dama-e caused to the Euheld rifles, issued on loan to the Canadian ( iovernment, and lately returned into store _ On the first point I have only to refer you to my letter of the 1 Ith February last, from which it will be seen that the recommendation of E,:rl Granville that no reduction of the arms and ammunition should be made at present, or until the Canadian Government have had the opportunity of dctcrmining>Lethcr they will purchase them, has been complied with 'by anticipation. I 11 On the KiH'oiid point, I iiiii to refer you to the report of Lieutenant General Sir C. Winill :m, dated the 22uJ January, 1860, (amon;,' the enclosures to ni/ letter of the 12th February), by which Ili.s Lordship will perueivo that the damage which the Rifles in question had sustained is not to be attributed to mere "wear and tear'' as contended by Sir C. E. Cartier ami Win Mcl)ou.i,'ali, but to want of proper care of them. liord Granville will also find it stated in the same report that these arms wore duly inspected upon beinu; returned into store in presence of the Militia Officer oti the part of the Canadian (iovcrumcnt, and that the sum claimed represents the actual amount of damajrcs and deliciencies ascertained to be due. Under tiiese circumstances Jlr. Cardwoll feels that lie has no alternative but to adhere to the claim. Sir Frederic Rogers, Raronct, &c., &c., &c. I am, &c., (Signed,) EDWARD LUGARD. ,„ , 28th April, 18G9. (Copy.) Communicate to 1*' ivy Council. The actual numbers tated in tlii;; despatch, as to be withdrawn, and to remain respectively, are the same as those stated in the former despatches. (Signed,) J. Y. r CftDa.ia Downing Strek''-, N-.fiS- 14th April, ISf.!). Sir,— Her Majesty's Government have had recently under thfir consideration the dia- MT.Lr«f'Miiuia *"^^*'"» "*' J'cr Majesty's Troops among the British Colonies, and the rate n«,l Defence, isth "* contrU"ition to be paid to the Imperial Exchequer by the Colonies in May, 1869. which they are placed. 2. As nearly one third of these Troops were, till lately, stationed in Canada, it need hardly be said that it became in the first instance necessary lo consider what force should at present be retained in the Dominion, and on what terms. 3. In determining these questions, their attention has })ecn particularly directed to the despatch >io. 95, of the ITih ,Ju„e, 1805, in which Mr. Caldwell conveved to Lord Monck the decision of J^ord Palmerston's (lovernment, on various questions of importance respecting the defence of the then Province of Canada ; and also to the minutes of Committee of Council transmitted respectively in Lord Mouck's despatch No. 96, of January 2nd, 1868, and in your despatch No. 9, of January 21st, 1869. The former of these minutes relates to the Naval Force then i„ Canadian waters, the latter to the withdrawal of troops. In both it is urged that an exceptional amount of Military and Naval assistance is due to Canada asbeini; exposed to danger, not from any colonial cause, but from the desire of the persons called Fenians to obtain some basis of operations against Great Britain. _ 4. Her Majesty's CJovernment trust that the annoyance arising from the organization of Jenianism in the United States is fast disappearing. TT^-'^' j^'r'"''''^*' '" ^'""'^^^'^ "" *'i« 'hostile feelings entertained by numerous Irishmen in the United States, ag.-.inst (}reat Britain, derived its substantial importance from the circum- stance that larsre armies had been recently disbanded, and were not yet thoroughly absorbed in the pursuits of peace. Such a state of things must always contain elements of danger to a neighbouring country ; and so far as the Canadians suflfer from it, they suffer not so much from their connexion with Great Britain as from an unhappy, I hope a passing accident of their geographical position. 5. With this observation which I «m by no means inclined to press too far, I proceed to the various matters on which I have to convey to you the conclusions of Her Majesty's Government. •• ■' 12 n^n= ,.n • ^ ■ ^ P ^ *"^ ^'^° organization or instruct on of any local forco f,,,- tl,o them at cost price with such arms, ammunition and military stores as they uiav need , Will bo sont wh.n thou-h the matter may be of less interest to ('•in-i,I.. tL,, r ' /u lo. I have further to point out to you that in the opinion of the Secrotarv of State for War any bmly o men who are to bo a ehar^e upon the Imperial ]<:xche,,uer ou "it o be a body raised or the general service of Her Majes^, and not limited eiS by the Idit^ons ot enlistment or uy practical necessity to a particular Colony The ( ''..nd;..„ (} IftZ ^™^'''on« you are awar.., satisfy this condition.and Mr. Cardwell l^acco dinX itut t^lt f "' companies of that corps, and to take 'measures to relf. ' tL wSrciv fV om ST of supporting it. It becomes matter for the consideration of Zl 1 Goye nmer vhetS ?hfe:;avti?cr/ "' -^^'-^ -- ' '-'-- ^^ ^° '- ^-^ p-p--- ^^^S£^ sumJiiiuKi^^L^o^rS'lt:^'^^'"^'"^— ^-^"^ ^'^ -'"« ^X.J^^ V ^''^•;^''P,f ''^ of the 17th of June, which I have already cited, and to whicli Lord Moncks Executive Council refer, Mr. Cardwell observed that "apart froni any ones ion of expediency the convention subsisting between this country and the United SrrendLd t impossible for eitbor nat,ou to place more than the specified u ' ^^ "the lakes in tune of peace." apart from any question of ited States rendered umber of armed vessels on r^rr ^''" '^'i'" !"?^?T -^ f ^^"^ ^''^'^^ ^°^«-''« °» the lakes, with the concurrence of tho oL. 1 ° \. /" ■'?''"' ^I^Jesty « Government are of opinion that the time has arrived, or may very shortly arrive, whoa there would be no sufficient^reason for expeclbgS 18 d that if the there indi- of the sum Lcf^islaturo irliamentof •c a sum of firy, I will heir prede- arantec. ■to given to ce he very rived, you Secretary of )ntarioand f (iarrii^ou iswick two bout 2,000 !w Bruus- oncurwith itisli force nd Volun- Jolony for Secretary distance in led officers -•c, for the connected to furnish iced; and Doic other :1 privates ■d, in the State for t to be a onditions io not, Rs [luce four I the cost , whether itained at ensuing ich Lord estion of rendered essels on le of the " allowed time haa cting the i I 1 :i acquiescence of the United States in this state of tilings. They eimsider tliorefure, tliat the vessels of war on luc lakes whieh now on both sides, exoeed tlie number allowed by the con- vention, should within a reasonable time be reduced to those numbers. 17. Her Majesty's (Government ii 'C willing that the three Imperial gunboats should, if the Canadian (ii -veriinient, desire it, be replaced this summer on the lakes, (,r on the St. Lawrence, and it will be tor them to consider wliat further armed naval force, not prohibited by the ten;..-; of the arrangement, should be kept up i:i ('.inailian waters; J5ut iler Majesty's (iovernrnent are of opinion that this must iiov/ b- dime entirely vd the e.\peiiseof the Dominion. IS. With regard to the observation contained in the "report of the C iimii.;e of the I'rivy Council, that Canada has no power to commissiijn vessi'ls of war, I would call vour attention to the Colonial Nci d ]).'fence \ct of IHt;;"), which was intended to provi.lc a-r.inst that difficulty. The (louncil do not state in what respect it is i'ouiid to be imperfect. ID. I have to rei|uest that yon will lay this despatch before your ^^'inistcr,:. They must be fully aware of the principles which Parliament will reipiire to be ai)i)lied to imperial expenditure forthe defence of the Colonial Ivnpire. In tli(!uradual, if not tardy, a])plication of these principles to British Nor-.h America, they will J hope, recognize tl o earnest vlcsire oi' ller Majesty's Covcrnment to do justice, both ti) the e.\-ceiitiunal Circ nstaiices which have liitherto c.-sistcd in that part of the IJritish Kni]);!-^ and to the admu.di'c spirit which has been shown by the Covernment and Country of Canada in providing for their own ])rolectioM. 1 have, A:c., (Si-ned), Cll.VNA'lLLE. Governor General The llight Honorable Sir John i'oung, Bart., G. C. H. (Copy.) Extract of kUcr from Mr. Secretary Cardircll to Earl Granuillc. AV'ah Offick, 'l')i\\ January, 1800. _" On looking at liio documents of which I enclose a copy, entitled Distribution of Regimental Establishments, 1808-9, I tind that of the whole number of men voted for the current year, 50.U25 are entered under the heading " Total for the Colonies," which includes the force in Japan. Of this number, viz. : .5l),(l25, no less than 10, IS.") are entered for British North America, under the several heads of Canada. Nova Scotia and Newfoundland.'' " Of this last number ;;,592 have already been recalled, and I have had submitted to me a letter from the Colonial office, dated the Sth ult., statin'' that in tHe opinion of the J)uk(^ of Buckingham and Chandos, a further reduction of the troops serving in the Dominion of Canada might take place so as to ic.ave 5,000 men in Quebec and Ontario, 2,000 men in Nova Scotia, and 1,050 in New Brunswick. 1 also learn that in pursuance of a pledge given by the Government of Lor.l Palmcrston in 1805, to t'.ic effect that Her Majesty's Government would ask Parliament to guarantee a loan of which the Colonial Government would undertake the primary responsibility and which was to be raised for the purpo.se of defraying the cost of certain works of fortifications re(iuircd for the defence of the Dominion^i an A.ct was passed in the month of May last, by the Legislature of Canada, for raising a loan of £1,100,000 accordingly. This Act is still under 'the consideration of Her M^ijesty's Government. But the pledge of the Imperial guarantee having been given upon the sup- position that greater exertions than heretofore would be made, by the Local Government to provide for the military defence of the Dominion, thus relieving the Imperial Exche(|uer from financial liability in this respect, to a greater extent than has'as yet been accomplished, I cannot but think that when this guarantee is called for by the Dominion, especially consider- ing the existing friendly relation between ourselves and the Government and people of the United States ; Her Majesty's Government ought to eit'cct a larger reducticui ot the Jbrce than is contemplated in the Duke of Buckingham's letter. " "In the year 1851 Iv.rl Grey, then Secretary of States I'or AVar and the Colonies, addressing the Governor Tk-neral of the British North American Provinces, wrote as follows : " t'anada (in common with the other British Provinces in North America) now pos.ses.ses in " the most ample aud complete manner in which it is jiossible that she should enjoy it, the " advantage of self-government in all that relates to her internal affairs." 14 "It appeuns to ][ur Mnjcsty'.s GoviTiiment tli:,t thi.s advanta.-e ouL'ht to rarrr wUh u ;: fUo'jiSiiL'iri ™,;;,:;s, rr ;;'^,:1,si;;f j: -- -iS-s- ^f sr^ Qucb™ "0141 lo'Jn ?K . " " "."-'■■ ,'" "" '"■«"»' l''""'"!.., „t Ontario .„d Quebec? '™''^'* ^" '*'''''''"' "^ "''^ '"'' of emergency to lurnish the garrison of the i is ^/•o//i Canada One Regiment of Cavalry, Three Battalions of Infantry. From iVc a Scotia and New Brunswick. Two Battalions of Infantry. 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