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Lorsque le document est trop grand pour dtre reproduit en un seul clich6, il est film6 6 partir de I'angle sup6rieur gauche, de gauche d droite, et de haut en bas, en prenant le nombre d'images n6cessaire. Les diagrammes suivants illustrent la m6thode. y errata )d to nt ne peiure, igon d 1 2 3 32X 1 2 3 4 5 6 ' * l^^^'v^* MEIi wV, ^«-^ ,• ^-^ -^ «^* sn !<»«»» »»»»«»«y»»»j»»-»^»»<»»»»»»»»»»'»»«»«»<» »»»»»» »«»»^<»» J V I <> REPLY OF V •* % V % WlLLIAMfMORRIS, MEMBER OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL OF UPPER CANADA, TO . SIX LETTERS, ADDF^ESSED TO HIM Bt JOHN ST R A CHAN, D. D., rfSV ARCHDEACON OF YCK|p' 4> ■■%y,. > TORONTO: r«i!NTfin AT THE SCOTSMAN OFriQE, 34, NEWGATE STREET. MDCCCXXXVIII. f— ' i ' III ' - 1 r - wiPd LIBRARY ASSOCIATION &L' — A\U MECHANICS' INSTITUTE. (i/l4. I3SrsTITXJTEr> 1823. i\C(»i:pokatki> isot. =^A m a vards of thirty of its most distinguished members, including, if my memory serves me. Sir Robert Peel and Mr. Stanley, but as you have access to the journals of that body, you can easily ascertain if I am mistaken ; and that tribunal, after a laborious and patient investigation, during which were called to the aid of its own judgment and legal knowledge, the research and investigation of Lord Sandott, Mr. Wilmot Hor- ton, then under Secretary of State for the Colonies, James Stephen, junr., Esq., employed at that time as counsel to the colonial department, and now one ot the under Secretaries of State, and to whose sound judgment and legal acquirement you have borne honorable testimony, I say, that talented committe e, with all the information that viras necessary to lead their minds to a correct conclusion, and with a full knowledge of the ar- guments that have been urged for and against our claim, pro- nounced the following important decision : " The act of 1791 directs that the profits arising from this " source shall be applied to a Protestant clergy : doubts have " arisen whether the act requires the government to confine '* them to the use of the Church ot England only, or to allow " the Church of Scotland to participate in them. The law " officers of the crown have given an opinion in favour of the " rights of the Church of Scotland to such participation, in which ** your committee entirely concur." Besides the opinion of the noble Lords, and members of this committee, unhessitatingly declared in favour of the just, legal, and constitutional rights of the Scottish church, Mr. Horton, on his examination before the committee, (see the committe e's report published by order of the Assembly of Lower Canada, page 312) was asked the following question : " Should you ** not be disposed to say that government and the Legislature of " England should be very cautious of doing any thing which ** could give rise to the slightest suspicion that there was any in- ** tention of establishing a dominant church in that country ?" and after giving several reasons as the ground of his belief, he added, "as I conceive the words " Protestant Clergy' to refer ** to clergy of the two recognized establishments ; and it ap- ** pears to me, from the construction of those clauses, that a ** special endowment of laiid, in cases where there was a de- <^ fil << (( i< <( (i ti ft €t i( I< to fDgenuihf to the future colonics of England, Ireland and Scot- land. The Church of England, '* as by Ihw established" at that period, extended not beyond the kingdoms of England and ner territories, and nothing but an act of the British Parliament can place her in the position, with respect to the British colonies^ that you contend for. No such enactment has yet been nmde, and I trust never will. You niny call those *' silly,'' who, like me, take this view of the subject, and stand foilh in support of the rights of our native country ; but ^ look forward at no dis- tent period to the time when the highest authorities of the laud will aeclare your opinion of the lo;v unsound. If the Church of England were, as you assert, the *' church of the Empire," she would not, according to Blackstone, be ** in the same state that she was in at the time of the union," and consequently that interference, with the essential conditions of the treaty, which he so strongly deprecated, must have taken place ; but, probably our " ignorance'' prevented us from dis- covering how or when. What do you think of Blackstone's declara)ion, that no alteration, even of the liturgy of the Church of England, can take place unless with the consent of the Church of Scotland? - I will now turn to what you say on the establishment of the 67 Rectories— and without paying attention to the manner in which you discuss the subject, or the unworthy motives which you say actuated the ministers and members of the Scottish Church, content mys^H with a few observations explanatory of what appears to me to be the merits of the case. By the constitution of the Province, the Lieutenant Gover- nor in Council has an undoubted right, when authorized by our Sovereign, to establish and endow Rectories; and by your ad- dress to the clergy of your Archdeaconry, it would seem that such authority or instructions had been received by the Colonial Government during the administration of '* President Smith in •* 1818, and another by Sir Peregrine Maitland in 1825, besides *♦ ft strong admonition from Lord Ripon in 1832." You ioWovr up the above information by telling your clergy that as these in- Btruetions have not been abrogated or withdrawn, they would enable the present r?overnment to endow Rectories through the irhole Province. It may be so, but as passing events have ere- n 21. atcd A doubt in my ntitid, and qi I have no wi^h to conceal (1m cause, it is at your service in the shape of interrogatories, which, perhaps, you may not decline answering. 1st.— If the instructions sent out in 1818 arc in force still, and you have said so, how did 't fmppen that fresh ones were necessary in the reign ol George the 4th, i.e. in the year 1825, for the ..^^ does not speak of a ** double set*' / 2d.— If I am right in m^ conjecture, that the instructions re- ceived in 1818, dunng the reign of His Majesty Geo. 3d, lost their power and authority at his death, and made it necessary to send a fresh "set" in the next Reign, in 1825, would not they also become powerless in 1830, wnen George the Fourth died ? 8d.— If either or both were in force, as you triumphantly declare, tell me why it was that the Executive Council established and endowed the 57 Rectories without the aid of these old \ documents. 4th. — If the Rectories were not established without the author- ity of the instructions sent out in the years 1818 and 1825, how is it that the Order in Council of the I5th January, 1836, makes no mention of them, but rests solely on the paper from Lord Ripon, which you call an admonition, for justification of the proceeding 1 £th, — And lastly, if that ''admonition** was ample authority for what the council did, please inform me why it is now neces- cessary to revert to the old instructions 7 ... - ■ ,.. All this, to me, has the appearance of lame management on your part, and may exonerate Lord Glenelg from the heavy load of blame with which you charge him lor submitting an imperfe "June 13th, 1836." J And to this address Lord Glenelg gave a very polite answer on the 14th September of the same year. What must now be thought of your declaration in the first letter, that ** no other de- *' nominations have had any public meetings or proceedings on **^the subject." You complain that the petitions to the Legislature against the J e ■■^> ■^ 1' 28 Rectories, *' were conceived in language of great bitterness and hostility,'' and I readily grant that some of them were couched in terms that I would not have recommended, and which appeared to me to convey more feeling than was necessary or commenda- ble. At the same time, it ought to be borne tn mind that the parties complaining wrote under a strong sense of injury, and with a firm persuasion that they had been deceived, whether by the Home or Colonial Government they could not tell , and it is quite natural, when people believe they have sulFered wrong, to express their mind more treely, than under ordinary circumstances they themselves would approve ot. This is the only explanation I can give for the temper you find fault with. But if they have erred in that respect, what must be said of the outpouring of your mind aganst them and me ? for if I am capable of forming an opinion, the heat you censure in them, is wholly extinguished by the raging fire of your ungovernable passion. You animadvert very strongly no ihe principles embraced in the 7th resolution, adopted by the Delegates at Cobourg, and "vvhich formed part of the prayer of the petitions to His late Majesty and the Parliament, and I am free to admit that they are such as I could never assent to, for they would confer power beyond what I conceive would be prudent or safe, to clothe any church with in this country, however salutary I believe them to be in Scotland ; and when the proceedings of that meeting reached me, I felt very strong regret that the members of it had incautiously adopted a resolution that was likely to create divi- sion. In fact it would have been out of my power to advo- cate the measure, and before I left this for England I was poss- essed of d writing which freed me from any obligation to urge that point ; and this I explained to Lord Glenelg— so that although the petitions contained the application, which you have drawn the attention of your clergy to, it was understood by the govern- ment as not insisted on or desired — indeed I believe the delegates did not perceive the full extent of that resolution, and would not again adopt it. The only reason for not printing, in the pa mphlet, the Peti- tions to the Imperial Parliament, was, that they are verbatim the same as that to His Majesty. Your remark on their absenc>.' would seem to imply the existence of some other motive. I could not but be atiuck with the singular neglect of fucts 29 v'hich appear in many statements you have made, and among others the following : " Had His Lordship (Glenelg) been made *' aware of the grave decision of the House of Assembly, in fa- »* vour of the Rectories, and the more than sufficient authority ** in possession of the Provincial Government for their erection* ** we cannot believe that he would have called their legality in '< question, much less allowed, as a nobleman of the nicest honor, " an inaccurate case to have been submitted to the law officers " of the crown." Is it not strange that you should resort to such excuses to palliate what you represent as improper in his Lordrhip's proceedings ? for 1 contend that you had no right to address letters to me complaining of the correspondence I held with the colonial department if you never read it, nmch less to infer that his Lordship was intentionally kept in ignorance of so important a matter as the proceedings of the Assembly. Can it be necessary that you should learn from me, that all such im- portant information is promptly foi warded to the Colonial Secre- tary from the office of His Excellency the Lieutenant Governor ? The journals were printed daily, and it is not very reasonable to suppose that the questions put on so interesting a subject as that which engaged the consideration of the Assembly on the 9th February last, would be kept back. But even if the information had not been forwarded by His Excellency, still his Lordship re- quires no such excuse from you. He was made aware of the ** decision" of the House of Assembly, as my letter of the 5th June plainly shows, and how you could induce the reader of your letters to me to think otherwise, requires explanation. It is true I did not represent the decision as a " grave" one, for the pub- lished account of the debates that evening did not lead me to understand that it was particularly so ; still his Lordship knew when the despatch of the 6th July was signed, in which he ques- tions the legality of the Rectories, that the Assembly had come to a vote which " regarded as inviolable, the rights acquired un- *' der the Patents by which Rectories have been endowed." — And I may mention to you what I told His Lordship in that let- ter, that I do not believe the Assembly would have passed any such resolution, had it not been supposed that the "sanction'' of the Uome Government affixed the seal to each Patent. You allege that His Lordship " allowed" an inaccurate case to be laid before the Crown Lawyers : if so, whose fault was it?l xieitainly not His Lordship's; for after applyi n g to the Piovircia : i 30 Government for information respecting uie authority under which the Rectories were establlslied, he made out a case from llie pa- pers with which lie was furnished, including the minute of'council of the 16th January, 1836, and other instruments which are referred to, and after consulting all these documents, he came to the conclusion, " that no such sanction had ever been given." So far I have written in reply to your arguments in the Addrrss and in the Letters, without regard to any arrangement in cither, but under the impulse of promiscuous ideas connected with both; and now 1 shall endeavor to explain what you have attempted in your second letter to exhibit as a misrepresentation on my part. 1 mean the picture which I drew, for Lord Glenelg's information, ol church patronage at the Seat of Government, and which you are pleased to say is one of the *' shifts to which the enemies of "your church are driven, in their vain attempts to make out a " case against her." This is the old tune that seems to suit every kind of metre, and the only one, it would appear, that }ou can play. It is not the church I find fault with, 1 disclaim any deiVire to "disparage" her, and nothing 1 have ever said or done can fair- ly be represented in that light. The church of England in the Province has not yet received the possession of either buihlinglots or glebes at all adequate to my estimation of her necessities, although in some particuh: • places I think an over anxiety to secure glebes has been shewn, and the only real difference be- tween us on this head is, that while I am anxious to sec your church thriving in company with ours, you are so selfish that if you can only provide well lor your own, you are quite content that ours should starve ! The old maxim of " live and let live," would seem to form no part of the code of regulations which you have framed for the government of your proceedings in church matters. — Even the "refreshing" lovely spectacle which London annually presents, of churchman and dissenter cordially uniting in the many munificent works of christian charity, with which that mighty metropolis abounds, receives the scowl of your unac- countable condemnation. What must be the surprise of those great and good men, both clerical and lay, who are not ashamed to be found " on the platforms of promiscuous religious assem- blies," contributing their wealth, their influence, and their talents for the dissemination of the Scriptures of truth, among the be- SI nlghtcd millions of the human family in every corner of the globe. Yes, what will be their astonishment, amidst the consoling rede^rtions on time thus spent, to be told by you that they are the vofaiies of a • liilse liberality, which is so much the lashion of the *'tiincs, r.nd wljich consists in insincerity, absence of nil princi- " pies, fickleness, niystery, ond false hijonie ;" and that the ''(rue *' churchman caimot conscientiously join those who diifer from *'hiin in societies for the promotion of religious purposes" !!! — Alas! that mere mortals of the dust, the Irail it»habitants of the passing moment, should on their journey to an endless eternity fall out with their fellow travellers by the way, r.nd reftife each other help to secure a safe entiance to that abode, where they must all occupy the same platform, forgetful of the jealousies and secta- rian strifes which seem so all important now. All churchmen are not actuated by such leelings ; there are many of your order who will not withhold their meed of approbation from their lellovr laboiu'ers of other christian comtnunities. How I was delij;hted with the eulogistic eloquence of the Uev. Dr. Crolly, bestowed on the church of Scotland, in his splendid speech at the Conser- vative Festival in London in June last, anil with what heartfelt cordiality did the clergy of the church of England prcsent,applaud every sentence of approbation which fell from the lips of this eminent divine in favour of Scotland's clergy. 1 could not but think of Upper Canada, and lament that no such heart cheering demonstration of christian philanthropy is countenanced by Eng- lish church diijnitaries there. The toast which occasioned the brilliant speech I refer to, was "The Archbishop of Canterbury and the Established churches."— Not "the Church of the Em- pire," — not "the Established church," — but truly and really what it ought to be, " the Established Churches," and this toast was rapturously received by more than two thousand English churchmen, from men of noble rank down to the respectable merchant and tradesman, including many persons of eminence in the church, the senate, and at the bar. So far from having painted the view you find fault with, in colours calculated to give a wrong impression of the original, I, for fear of such complaint, intentionally kept the light and shade too dim, and thereby have verified the old adage. To prove to his Lordship that the Scottish inhabitants of the Province had reason to ti!id fault with the distinction manifested between your church and ours, I said, that at the Seat of Government, 3Z { 1, The Englisi) congregation had received 8cvcral most valuahter grants of land, and one thousand pounds to assist in building their church- That the Catholic congregation had received three building lot» there,— But that the Scots congregation had ne\er received one foot. And pray have you shown that this statement is not true to the very letter 1 I think you have not. My observations were intend- ed to apply exclusively to lots granted in Toronto, and by your own statement the Scots congregation of that city has never been favored with one. " The Town lot consisting of half an acre,'* which you say " was set apart as a burial ground for the Presby- terians in connexion with the church of Scotland," in "December 1824," cannot certainly be regarded as a grant made to assist the congregation I am speaking of, as it was not at that period in existence, nor even contemplated. But you give as a reason for their not getting a grant in the city, that the lots at the time this congregation was formed were all either sold or granted. '— Look, if you please, at the records, and perhaps you will discover that a grant or grants were made to the Catholic congregation since 1830, besides 15 acres to your congregation^ worth at pre- sent jC60 per acre, and more. This would seem to remove one ground you take against my complaint, for if lots could be found for one purposei they might have been got for rr><)ther, had the will accompanied the power. How easy it was to say to the Trustees of the church in question, "We have no building lots " that will answer your object, but you are very welcome to one " in the Garrison Reserve, or to one of the Park lots on the east "side of the town, which you can dispose of,and with the proceeds " discharge the debt due to the magistrates for the piece of ground ** they sold you off the Court House Square." Such encourage- ment woiild have been duly appreciated, and it was easy of accomplishment ; only think how many exchanges have taken place for the accommodation of various churches in your con- nexion, and a little countenance of this kind to the Scots inhabit- ants at Toronto would not have been lost on them. But you say *• on the 3d September, 1835, a grant of one hundred acres was " ordered to the Scotch Church at Toronto," and by that circum- stance you suppose you have made out a clear case ol mistate- ment against me, but as I have already said, when I drew the 1 i ! $$ comparison, I ipok« of grants in Toronto and had no regird t^ Glebe Lots ; for if I bad, a mucb stronger contrast i Vight bavv been exhibited, giving you at the same time every praise for this very liberal appropriation. No, no> I never imagmed that this inconsiderable grant of 100 acres in the country, would be urged by you as conclusive evidence that the Scots church had not, according to my shewing, been il^sed with respect to a grant in the city. For if I had, it would have been an easy matter to place it in juxta-position with the 3000 acres given to your con- gregation. However as my statement, correct as it is, has given you so much offence, I will put down in opposite columns all the lands which to my knowledge have been granted to the three congregations, whether situated in town or country, and that you may have no further occasion to find fault, I will even insert the half acre burying ground, although it was not located for tho congregation I was treating of, and I am much surprised to hear that the church of Scotland had such grant at all. The lots and farms to your church, St. James*, Toronto, embrace all that you state to have been received by the incumbents up to the date of your letter to His Excellency Sir J. Colborne, of the SIst January, 1835. Grains to the Episcopal Catholic, and Scots Congregations in in the City of Toronto. Episcopal, Church of Englandt Park lot No. II, 100 acres, on which the buildings of the Law Society are now erect- cd,— very valuable. Acres in the centre of the town, — very valuable. 1 acre old Gaol ^ rented at ground. f £250 I acre Hospital r per ground. ^ annum. Glebe lot No 14,?d C. E.Yong«St. <» «« It fl,2 <« <« « 4( f< '11 fl « '* « '» the rnl of which ftre in the very (able No. 2, which jv^n htxyc '^extracted Jrom the records of the Executive Council and Surveyor GencraVs Office^'^ to prove that our complaint is groundless. Is it no ob- stacle to nn application to find that niter the Council hns been pleased to report favorably on the petition, that no lot worth acceptance can be procured, although many are vacant?— when the petitioners point out some clergy lot as vacant, to be told tliat Mr. this nmd Mr. that had recommended Nun»bcrs so and so to be kept jr Glebes, and that therefore they cannot be given? In this wny many of the pa»tics were wearied with disappoint- ment and took lots, comparatively speaking, of no value. These you now exhibit on paper as a nios*. bountiful provision, and tell me that the Scots churches are better endowed, in proportion to the'r claims and immbers,than the English church with its 57 Rec- tories ! I feel so astonished at the assertion that argument, how- ever well supported by plaiw and obvious existing realities, would seem hereafter to have lost its use. The intrinsic worth of the grants to your congregation alone are, I firmly believe, in amount tenfold all thai the church of Scotland congregations have re- ceived from one end of the province to the other. And you can scarcely Jook at a Township in the Niagara District, where a proportion nearly as great will not apply. In the Surveyor Generals Return, I see that all the Glebe lots in that beautiful peninsula composed of the Niogara District and a few townships at the head of Burlington Bay, are marked as belonging to the church of England ! Not one lot left for the sister church. Even in Ancastcr, you quietly keep a thousand acres, unmindful of the wants of the Scots church there, which by the Return would seem never to have been favoured with a paddock to feed the minister's cow on. But all this you will say is just as it should be ; and if I would only remain in torpent insensibility to the interests and claims of our countrymen here, no doubt I would be a good fellow, in the every-day acceptation of the term, and save myself a great deal of trouble, besides being spared the unpleasant necessity of contradicting you in many things you have advanced. However, this situation, pleasant as it might be to some, has no attractions for me; and while I feel that Scotsmen and Scotsmen's rights are left in the shade, I inust and will speak and act. Therefore, lash away, I fearlessly meet you, and so long as I believe the cause is just, I will es- pouse it, nor be deterred by the application of language tenfold 36 harsher than you have hitherto used> and you have noi been At all sparing in that commodity. I repeat that in my anxiety to forward the wishes ot many congregations, which within the last three years have petitioned foi- grants of Glebe Lots, 1 have found it almost impossible to make a location worth possessing, and if you still doubt the fact, I shall prepare a list of the particular cases and lay it before you in a subsequent letter ; but I may now again say, that several of those I allude to, you adduce in support of your refutation of what 1 have asserted, but these are not nearly all. The Glebe of 200 acres in Elmsley, for " Perth," which you draw particu- lar attention to as ** a most valuable tract of land," is no better, no, not so good, as very many that 1 could name which you have recently set apart for various English Churches, but even this lot, would never have been obtained had I not, as the say- ing is, worked hard for it, and after it was secured, by lease, not grant, as you affirm, such a hub-bub was kicked up in conse- quence, at head-quarters, that I at one time intended to advise the Trustees to relinquish one half of the lot. If you want an explanation of wffat I mean, I am perfectly willing to gratify you. Now, with the fact that 1 hint at here, it is noi at all wonderful that I should refuse my assent to your claiming merit for bene- volence of disposition in any quarter, as far as this lot is in ques- tion, however ready I am to acknowledge the kindness of the council, at which you presided, for making a grant of 200 acres, although they knew nothing of the situation of the lot, or its qua- lity. The obstacles I had in view when I penned the complaint were not intended to apply to the decisions of the Executive Council, but to that illegal controul over the Clergy Reserves, which was exercised by the Clergy Corporation, and which ena- bled its members to mark, as suitable for glebes, vast numbers of lots, and also to countenance the occupation of many more by squatters, so that, generally speaking, the congregations of the Scots Church had either to put up with rejected lots or go without. I call the Corporation an illegal institution, because it has excercised power and authority not known to the constitu- tion ; it was the cause of the evils I have just explained. And what is further, and more provoking still, the expenses of its efforts to deprive the Church of Scotland of what is her right, were defrayed from funds that her clergy should have benefitted by,— I mean that the clergy of your church were paid their 37 travelling expenses to Toronto on various occasions, and that your expenses in England, when you were making every effort against the claim of the Scots church, were also borne out of the clergy reserve fund, which Her Majesty's Government say belongs to both churches. 1 have just read your fifth letter to me, but such a letter I never met with before. You appear to have broken through all bounds, and set at defiance every rule for the guidance of con- troversial discussion. My first impulse was to pass it ^er in pity and in silence : indeed if I sought to injure you, gi^^ that letter extensive circulation would be a most effectual means ; but though feelings, okin to any thing but those of anger, per- plex me, when I look at that most extraordinary production. — I know not why I should receive without answer some of your very singular observations, merely because they are conceived in language the most supercilious and dictatorial that can well be imagined. Surely the standing of our countrymen on the scale of colonial society, has descended contemptibly low if the strain in which you speak of us in this as well as some other of your late writings can in any measure be justifiable. After quoting a sentence from my letter to Lordj Glenelg of the 13th July, you ask the following question : — ** Would not ** any person on reading this passage, infer that the Ministers ** of the Scots Church had been totally unprovided for ; and *' would he not stare at the hardihood of the writer, when told '* that a liberal allowance had been made for their support, " &c. ?" My answer to you is, no I Lord Glenelg to whom ! was addressing myself, and for whose information I wrote that passage in the letter, as well as the other members of Her Ma- jesty's Government with whom I was in correspondence, could infer no such unreasonable idea. The amount paid to our Ministers, and the temporary fund from whence it is derived, was the particular subject of frequent conversations with these honourable individuals, and therefore they might well think it most singular if 1 had formally announced to his Lordship in that letter, that those of the Scots Clergy in Upper Canada who receive aid from Government, are paid £57 10s. sterling each, out of the Canada Company instalments, which fund will cease in three or four years. His Lordship and Sir George Grey very naturally would have said, " we are quite well aware of this fact. 38 " anii you may remember it was perfectly understood in our late *' con versa! ion, and you urged this approaching difficulty as one " of the strong reasons for an early payment of your Ministers ** out of the Clergy Reserve fund." Such I conceive might have been his Lordship's r.nsvver to me had 1 written anything, along with what you have quoted, to suit your ideas. I was addressing his Lordship in reference to the frequently admitted claim of the Scots Church to shnre in the Clergy Reserves, and also in reference to a conversation Sir George Grey held with me on the very subject you blauie me for not mentioning in my letter ; and it appeared to me proper to express m)' surprise that notwithstanding the olt-repeated re- cognition of our claim, not one farthmg of the Reserve funds had ever been paid to our Church ; and then 1 mentioned my satisfaction that his Lordship by ordering a certain sum to be paid to the Ministers in Lower Canada, from that source, had admitted the principle which we had long contended for, and I said I hoped]that justice would speedily be awarded to the Clergy in Upper Canada. Now, although this very reasonable, and proper, and I will add, temperate paragraph has, it would seem to you, afforded you an opportunity to address me in a way that does not redound to your credit, I am quite certain that neither Lord Gienelg nor Sir George Grey will see anything in my re- mark that required *' hardihood" in the writer. Does it require hardihood to enable any man to communicate sentiments and opinions which he sincerely believes are founded on truth and justice ? Feeling that I neither wrote nor spoke one word to Her Majesty's Ministers, which the most scrupulous observance of honourable intention could question, I must express my as« tonishment at being arraigned in this rude manner by you. You go on to say "The terms upon which you propose to make peace with the Chnrch of England," are^no, I shall not attempt to defend the members of the Scots Church from imputations such asyournext paragraph contains, resting quite secure in the belief that few of the members of your own Church will, or can, give countenance to such language or charges. Suffice it to ob- serve, that my proposition for the division of the Clerjy Re- serves I think will be found to be quite as acceptable to the general wishes of the inhabitants at large iis the recommenda^ Iji 89 (ion iRst February of the Committee of the Home of Assembly, of which Mr. Draper was chairman. You say, " had the venerable Clerg}'men, (Drs. M*Leod & " M'Failane) whom you invited, come to your aid, they would, " I am fully persuaded, have advised you to pursue the same "course that Dr. Mearns adopted in 1823.'» Be it known to you that Doctor Mearns knew nothing in 1823 of the opinion of the Law Ollicers of the Crown in 18 i9, on the legal construc- tion of the Act 31 Geo. 3, cap. 31 ; and as to what you sup- pose those reverend gentlemen would think or do on this subject, what follows may perhaps change your opinion of them. " The humble memorial of Duncan Macfarlan, Doctor in Di- " vinify, Convener of the Committee of the General Assembly "of the Church of Scotland on Churches in the Colonies, " Sheweth, "That prior to the Treaty of Union, between England and Scotland, Acts of the Legislatures of the two countries were passed, establishing and confirming the respective Churches of England and of Scotland, as they then stood established by law, within the said lespective realms ; and, by the Treaty of Union itself, it is expressly provided, that there shall be a commicalion of all rights, privileges and advantages^ which do or may belong to the snbjects of either kingdom.^^ "That under these securities, Ministers of the Church of Scotland, settling in the British Colonies, are clearly entitled to a share of all grants of land, or money, and to all other privile- ges and advantages, which are bestowed by Government for the purpose of religious instruction in these Colonies, as am- ply and beneficially as Members of the Church of England, or of the Church of England and Ireland, are or can be so entitled." &c. &c. &c. July 27th, 1836. (Signed) D. MACFARLAN. To the memorial from which the foregoing is extracted, Sir George Grey, BarL, returned an answer, dated 4( (( « (( (( <( ic « (c (t t( (( 40 <( icco of ground whatever, not so much as space to build our church upon. It is tru%that some time ago the Commissioner of Crown Lands was instructed to set apart 200 acres in seme convenient place, and for the purposes prayed for, but, in point of laet, whatever lots were made known to us as so set apart, were found upon examination to be of little value to any one, and to us, so far from being in some convenient 54 place and for the purposes prayed for, not worth accepting. This wp found to our disappointment, after most diligent search and repeated applications, after many petitions expressed in the most respectful terms, and signed* by most respectable persons in this city. As to your statement respecting the Government lot north side of Dutchess street, containing half an acre, which by a cu- rious grammatical construction, you, unwittingly, no doubt, lead the public to believe is separate and distinct from " a tract for a burial ground," whereas they are one and the sr.me, we beg you to take our word for it, that this lot, or these if you please, were never granted to us, nor to any Presbyterian congregation in connexion with the church of Scotland, nor ever by us, or by any one else, so far as we know, understood to be so granted. We are. Honourable and Venerable S!r, Your most obedient humble servants, Ic. Buchanan, Chairman. John Ewart, Wm. Ross, W. Rose, Andrew Tod, Geo. Henderson, A. Badenach. To the Hon. and Ven. John Strachan, D.D., Archdeacon of York. This ;h and e most in this t north y a cu- t, lead }t for a leg you ;, were tion in by any man.