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VifKiitrJi til iioiti tooHofo of 4Jarliamrut bi) Sl'crriSWOODE, Esm- Hauiunc; Stueict, Fi.EK.i .Strei-.t, E C, im.l .'12, AlilNi.DON StRM-T, W KSTM1N3TER, S.W. ; Or JdllN' MlvX/.lE> >t Co., 12, JIanoveh Stbekt, Eu'Nucuiiu. imd ] !K^ West Nir.K .Stuekt, Geasuow i or lIUDiiES, riGOIS, .<: Cn.. T.iMrrKu, 104, Gkahon SruBET, Dl;ul.i>. i>9:* j^O. __7.o3-j,] Pr\.--'\L ('f)N'r i: N r^. Sir ( 'lin; !•■■. TiippfM- 'n ( '(i|c.iii:il I H\'hi:. t..rn:ii.i:iii.': ; — y,,. 1.— Sii Llitjli- Tniiii. 1 ! ■ '^■;l■ Ji'lui I'.'iiil.T Xu. :j, — sii- jmIiii I'.'ini ■! Ill s;i- (.iiaiii- riihp.-i- X,,, :; — Si:- IJhiiil' • ruiip'T !■• --ii .I'jiin I'.inl.'i- I COLOMAL rONFRllEN( r., IW. 1IETW1.KN SlU ( IIARLES TUITEII ani. SIH JOHN PKNDKR ON 'I UK SUDJI'l T <)l- A I'KOPOSEI) PACll IC CABLE. {In rontinuation of Cnnrsimndenii' jirinlid oil i>i>. ;?(;7-:Cl "/[*'■ 7">"':^]- Anir>hi( IHg-l.) Sii, CHARLKS TMPl'ER to COLONIAL OFFICE. . Victoria Cli!mii)i.-is, 17, Victoria Sticct, Sir, Lon.loii, S.W., December 12, 18!)l. 1 iiAvii observed tliut in ttic recently issued rarliaiiu nttiry Pa]>er ! ('. 7')"i3] relating to tlic Colonial Conference at Ottawa, a letter from Sir John l\;ni.ii, -'"nt" 1, IS94. In reply to your letter of the ;U)th of May, I beg tn rcnnnd you that we lomed issue on the following points ;-- _ ,,.,,,,• ■ . . ■ >■ 1st. Whether the " existing service was established solely by private enterprise. 9,„i. Whether tiie llli; of a cable is 11 years. _ ;!rd. Your assertion that my "description of the existing system as a monopoly cannot t)e justified." 4th That a Pacitic cable has no strategic value. I respectfully submit that the admission tiiat the " ';xi years. Permit me to quote the turther evidence of another hi-rh authority on that, (luestion—your late colleag"e. Sir James Anderson-who was kmffhted tor laying the Mrst successful cable be ■ -n England and America. In October 1.S86, at a meeting of the Oireet Spanish lelegriph Company. Sir James Anderson, presiding, said : '-They estimated the life of the Barcelona cable at 2.. years. It had then been in operation 13 years, and great improvMueiits Lave been made m the manutacture of cables since the Barcelona cable was constructed. 1 thiuk 1 may now fairly consider the second part of our controversy disposed ot. i 85050. Wt. 11)304. ■^ 2 .\^ til ilir ■• impii in n Icttcv writtm liy you to Sir Henry liiilliuiil. ilateil isih Aiml, |.s,s7 ; "ft nttrvnee is niade in iiny way to the exi^tinj; " eiiiii|/ani( « iis u monopoly , my answer i.- that it. has hein so erealed hy the great " iP'er^:\ \mi1i which the eniiipaiiy have earried oa their exi.ensiotis . . I would " alMi draw vour attention to the t'aet tl .it. while it lias lieeii niadi' a monopoly tluiuigh " the eirenmslaiifes 1 have stated, tie' While this piihlic record remains, you will, I iniauinc h,irdl\ repeat the st.itnt insuperable dithcultics, and 1 do not think that your experience in teleirr.iphy with India will lead \ ou to cunsider as reliable the I'aiphnites Valley Line, which belonffs to the Turkish (lovernnient and passes llirough a country bri>llini: with physicid dilFiculties, rendorinir the maintenance (l impo>>ihlc. \ ou must, Iiovncvii, admil that, if the Indian land wires in the niighbouriiood i>f Kurrachee and Hoiiibay were interrupted, all commiiniciition by teleu;rap!i between these towns and < 'alcuttii, .Madias, and .Australia woidd re(]uire to be transmitted lo Kurope lor re-transmission throup;li the only rcinaininu loute open to the I'ast, vi/., through Russia, Siberia, Japan, and (^Iiina. An all-Hritisli line, viii Canada to .Australia, remote from any hostile iiitlLunce, niiiiht at any moment, theiefore, become vital to the l)est interests of the Empire. As to the financial jirospecta of this enterprise, f am glad to find that you have levised the e.«liniatc you submitted to Lord Ripon in .Vprii, and now make the deficit 48,000/. instead of li'o.oott/., at which you then stated it. I be^' to suirijest that if sou will ]>lacc the amortization of the cable at "Ja year>, and add the icccipts >)t the liiriic volume of Cnited Suites and C.inadian trallic that will he created by a I'acilic cable, and make lair allowance lor tiic usual increase of trallic, your latent calculation \\ill be considerably niodihed. Allow me to add that >our adherence to 11 years as the life of the cable in ortlei io sliovv the scheme linancially impracticabie will, in my ojamon, convince many persons that the enterprise caiuioi be condinined b\ fair calculations. 1 remain, i^c. Cn.^uLi:s Tl ci'KH. Sir .lohn Pender, (i.(.' ,M.(i., M.P. I'.ri. — I am sendin"- this letter to " The Times." Enclosure No. 2. Sir .loii.s I'li.NOEit to Sir Cn\ui,i.s Ti'PI'Eh. The Eastern Exten.Mon, Anstiala^i;., and (liina Telegraph Company. Limited, Winchester House, .^O, Old Rroad Street, l)i:.\[i Sin Cu.ARi.Ks TcppKR, Loiuhni, E.C., .lune G, IH<)|. I H.\VF, received your letter of the Ith instant, from which it is ipiite clear that our views on the racitic cable (jue.stiou are so divergent that uo practical purpose will he serv. d by I'ontinuing the correspoiKhaicc any longer. ;» Pull hrl'urc closiiiL!; it pcriiiit iiic lo lirieily deal wiilj tlu' piincipil |,.iiiit.s r:ii. cd in vciir 1" -. li'ttcr, lUid In cxiirc-s the li()|)c tliat tl\c fai'ls ai.d fij^mo uliicli luuc lurii ilicltfd liv the con't^pondi lU'c may la' loiiiid useful to tin.' Oltuwa t 'oiili'n ik-l', and iiioiv iiiiliciiliirly to the iiivcstinn' |)ulilii', \vhi> vsill oviaitiially huvr t(( ilcc'idi' th'' .|uc'sviV'ilh rctianl to tlie lirst |U)inl, I tliiiik any un|iii judieed peiMin ri'adiiin my previous letter will have been c'ltiviiucd tliat the iiioiiecr service to Aiia.iiili.i Was estalih'shi'd >nl;ly \>y private ('nter|irise, and thai liie ( io\eriinieiit siil>sidies uranled years al'tt inwirds t'lr an entirely ditUreiit piit|)n>^o imve no liearini^ on the argument. As to thi' r.eeund pnir.t, it is true that there are eid)l(s still wcukinu' wliJeh nire laid ■J'> years ayo: l)iit, on the other liaiid, iiuiny ealiies ((lually weU nianiiliiet\ned nnd laid, liive l>eeii known to retjiuVe entire renewal in as ^lunl a lime as 12 to 17 yens aitir they lia\e been •"idinu'rited. in sliurt, tlie lili'oT a. ei'.hlc is notoriously luieertaiii. ih'|)>ruliuu- very largely on the locality ;;nd natuii! of the bottom over whieli it is 'aid, and it is iJierelbrc inipossiiile to ac(anately measure sneh un unknown quantity. I have never, however, a-serteil that a I'aeific cable would last only H years. All I have done is to base my caleulat ion I'or amortization on the period ti.vcd by the ^\ Cllin^ton ( 'ontrrence tor the pioposed iiuarantet — viz., 1 I years. If. howi'\er, we take "Jli years, whicli is the more usual periipd for -ulnidy or ;;uarantee airan^ements of this kind, as the ba-i^ of ealenlation, the linaueiul vi •h\{ to an investor would still be most disappointing, as shown by ihe following; fltcures : — e Capital .-...- |,>~Oi),()(Hi Working- I'^-xpenses •Maintenance C-2.'),(tOo ;;."), (inn Ai'iorli/atioir to replace Capital at end of "JO years - icdf ''xistlno' oil': Less earnin^;^?! (>stiiii:it /d on h tralHc I'our per cent, liuaiantte l.cavinij -in aeliial ln^s to investors of 'J'in.OdO (i7,0nii !,"),0()0 /•J.cuo I li 7,0(10 17.000 io,oon And if the I'ai'itie eable were duplicated, wliiili 1 coiit"i;d woii'd be absolutely necessary lo make iti a sueecsslUl competitor to the existing -y-.tem, the loss '.vouM, of c iiirse, be immensely u'rcatt'r. When writin<4 to Sir Iliairs' Holland the letter to which you rett r, I was endcavouiin.^ to meet objections raised l>y opponents to the strong position which we had built up, and which had been described as a monopoly. As a matter of I'aet, our control of the Australiriii traffic has never depended on the possession of exilu. I'he (ireat Northern Coni|iany's system. With the Indo-European and (ii'cat NJorthern Companies we have working agreenuMits, and the tirst-nauied route is, to a large extent, owned by the I'lastia-n Con.ipany. With rcard to your last point, the only dificroncc between the ligures submitted to Eord Hijion and those given in my letter of the .'iOth ultimo* is that in the one case the deficit includis four per cent, interest on capital and in the other the deficit is sliown without interest. But the practied result to an investor is precisely the same, and with such figures before you I would a^ain ask whether you would be prt'pared lo put your name to a prospectus inviting subscriptions from the [)ui)lic for such an unprofitable scheme. i s;i05o. * l\'j,r ;i70nf c. "■'■j:5 A ;? .. . ., ,„. 1 ,.,,1,, ictUT tlu- (•(UM^•snlnlllelU'^ luu^^t, (•(•(ISC, tt« your tiiiio iiiul •""^"'- T,' o la u 1 1 IK- k -n u,> wUl, :u, anuK.um- .lisn.sM.n of this k.n.l. t. : : ; 'Ivitl. a vi..w t.. .uivng, if uoss...!. at a pn.t.cu. re«uU ^ tin- IloiiuuniM'.' Sir Chiiv1i.'> C..( .M.CJ., I -B. ii].p er , TkH.. .luIlN I'F.NIJKil. Enclosmc >Jti. :'•• Sir ClIAliUS TiTI'KIl to Sil .InllN Pi.Nor.lt. DlliL'c ol'thf Ui.Lch ClominisMoiici' tor (.'amula, 17, Victoria Stivet, London, S.W., "'"' "1";^ nia .un™i to tin.l l.v vour Ictt.r of th. Gth instant that w>n wish to dose tuc incMiou^.i . . , " .>,,on.(M)(i/. of fiovcrninfnt sul>sui ; thattio lie .taten.nt thu, ,h. "''f-l? -'J- ^.^'^ ;t'hc c vou::^ru> rcvi.- Lr cs.in.at.. to n,.. I an. also gla> h.i '^ '^ '<^^^ " ' _; , ^..pitafist.s xyill not In- inHuonce.l u, liii^E'jt" K";r;;;;::. :rS;:, " t,;;^ra..i.on .Uo.u, noon the a.K.n ot- the Govcrnnuntsof the Uni.c-i Kin.clom. Australa.m. and C an:ula.^_^ ^^.^^^^,_^^^ ^ (HAHLKS Tl I'I'KU. SirJohii IV'uder, C;.C.M.(i., M.R