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ON THE REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE OF FOR'^H^N RELATIONS. IN REPLY TO THE OBSERVATIONS OF MR. BACON. Dec. 7. 1808. Mr. Speaker: — I OFFER myfelf to the view of this houfe with very fenfible em- barraflment, in attempting to follow the honorable member from Ten- neflee (Mr. Campbell)— a gentleman, who holds fo diftinguiflied a fta- tion on this floor, through thy bl effing, Mr. Speaker, on his talents and iaduftry. I place myfelf, with much reluflance, in competition with this our great political .^neas— an illuftrious leader of antiquity, whom in his prefent relations, and with his prefent projefts, the gentleman from Tenneflee not a little refembles. Since, in order to evade the ruin im- pending over our cities, taking my honorable colleague (Mr. Bacon) by one hand, and the honorable gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Mont- ^ornery) by the other, little lulus and wife Creufa, he is pofting away mto the woods, with Father Anchifes and all tlie houfehold gods. When I had the honor of addreffing this houfe, a few days ago, I touch- ed this famous report of our committee on foreign relations, perhaps, a little too carelefsly ; perhaps, I handled it a little too roughly, confidering Is tender age and the manifeft delicacy of its conftitution. But, fir, I had no idea ofafFeuf itfeems, that our honorable chairman of the committee of fnrei8:D re'a- tions, •* maluitesse Deum.'* Well, fir 1 have no obj^flions. If the work- TOPn will, a God it fhall be. I onlv wifh, that when gentVmen bring their facred things upon this floor, that they would " blow a trumpet before them, as the Heathens do." on lachoccaHons, to the end, that all true believers may prepare themfelvesto adore and tremble, and thai all unbelievers may turn afid?, and not difturb their devotions. T afTure gentlemen, that I meant to commit no facrllege. T had no intention, fir, of canvaffing very ftrialy this report. 1 fnppofed that, when it had been publifhed and circulated, it had anfwered all the pur- pofes of its authors, and I felt no difpofition to interfere with thein.-— But thehoufe is my witnefs, that T am compelled, by the clamour raifed, on all fides, by the friends of adminiHration, to defcend to particulars, and to examine it fomewhat minutely. My honorable colleague, (Mr. Bacon) was pleafed the other day to affert : Sir, in referring to h's obfervations on a former oc- cafion, I beg the houfe not to imagine, tV I am about to follow him.-- No, fir, I will neither follow, nor imitate .lim. I hang upon no man's fkirts. I run barking at no man's heel. 1 canvafs principles and meaf- mes, folely, with a view to thegrea interefts of my country. The idea of perfonal viflory is loft, in the total .ibforption of fenfe .md mirJ, in the importance of impending confequences— I fay. he was pleafrd to af- fert, that I had dealt in general allegations, aga.ofl this report, without pointing out any particular obje(5>ion. And the honorable chairman (Mr. Campbell) has reiterated the charge. Both have treated this alledged omifllon, with no little afperity. Yet, fir, it is very remarkable, that fo far from dealing in general allegations, I explicitly ftated my objeamn'^. The alternatives prefented by the report- war or fufpenfion of our rights, and the recommendation of the latter, rather than take the nfque of the former, 1 exprefsly cenfnred. I we i farther— I compared theft alter- natives with an extraa from an addrefs made by the firft contmenial congrefs to the inhabitants of Great Biitain, and attempted to fliew, by way of contraft, what I thought, the difgraceful fplrir of the report- Yet thefe gentlemen complain, that I dealt in general alleg?tions. Before I ch.fe, fir, they will have, I hope, no reafon to repeat fuch objeaions. I truft, I fliall be particular, to their content. Before entering upon an exam' iatlon of this report, it may be ufetul to recolleft, how it originated. . • j i j By the 3d feflion of the 2d article of the conftitution, it is declared, that the prefident of the United States «' fliall, from time to time, give to rnncrrefs Information of the ftale of the union, and recommend to their conji- deration fuck mea/uret zs he {ha.\\ judge necefl'ary and expedient." It is, then, the duty of the prefident to recommend fuch meafures as m n*s I ; of wood — Iny labourer \tr.het. P>ut "oreigD re'a- If the wnrk- tVmen bring w a tram pet end, that all , and thai all • e. T had no ppofed ihat, i all ihe pur- ivith them. — imour raifed, o paiticulars, other da> to a fornier oc- bllow him.— >on no man's )les and meaf- y. The idea md mirJ, in pleaffd to af- port. without lairman (Mr. this alledged :able, that fo ny objeftionx. lofoui rights, ; rifque of the d thefe alter- ft continental d to flifw, by fhe report. — ?tir>ns. Before ach objeflions. ay be ufeful to t is declared, ) time, give to d to their confu dient." ^ It is, ires as in hfe M -\ t judgment congrefs ought to adopt. A great crifis is impending over our country. It is a time of alarm and peril and diftrefs. How has the pre- fident performed this conlUtuiional duty ? Why — After recapitulating, in a formal meffage, our dangers and histiials, he expreffeb his confidence that we (hall " with an unerring regard to the effential rights and interells of the nation, weigh and compare \hz painful alternatives , out of which a choice is to be made," and that " the jltertiatiie chofen will be maintained with fortitude and patriotifm." In this way our chief mageftrate per- forms his duty. A ftorm is approaching -the captain calls his choice hands upon deck, leaves the rudder fwinging, and fets the ciew to fcuffle about alternatives. 'I'his meflage, pregnant with non defcript alternatives, is received by this houfe. And wliat do we? Why — Conditnte a great committee of foreign relations, and lell rhsy fhould not have their itten* tion completely occupied by the prcffing exigencies of thofe with France and Great-Britain, they are endowed*with the whole mafs ; BritiQi, Sp;in- ifh and French; Barbaty powers and Indian neighbours, /tnd what does this committee ? Why — After feven day fcjlemn conclave, they pre- fent to this houl'e an illuftrious report, loaded with alternatives — nothing but alternatives . — The cold meat of the palace is halhed and ferved up to us, piping hot, from our committee room. In conlidering this report, I Ihall pay no attention to either its begin- ning, or its conclufion. The former confilh of Ihavings from old docu- ments, and the latter of bird lime for new cpnverts. The twefth page is the heart of this report That I mean to convafs. And 1 do aflert, that there is not one of all the principal pnfitions, contained in it, which is true, in the fenfe, and to the extent, aitamed by the committee. Let us examine each feparately. " Your committee can perceive no other alternative, but abjeft and de- grading fubmiffion - war with both nations — or a continuance and en- forcement of the prefent fufpenfion of our commerce." Here is a tri- forked alternative. Let us confiJer each branch, and Ut if either be true, in the fenfe affirmed by the committee, i he firll, " abjecfl and de- grading fubmiflion," takes two things for granted ; that trading, pending the ediifts of France and Great Britain, is fubmiflion ; and next, thatii is fubmiflion, in its nature, abjeifl and degrading. Neitlier is true. It is not lubmiflion to trade,pending thdfe ediiSs, becaufe they do not command you to trade. I'hey command you not to trade. When you refufe to trade you fubmit, not when you carry on that trade, as far as you can, which they prohibit. Again, it is not true that fuch trading is abje(5l and difgraceful, and that too upon the principles avowed by the advocates of this report. I rading, while thefe edids are iufpended over our commerce is fubmiflion, fay thty, becaufe, we have not phyfical force to refift the power of thefe belligerents ; of courfe, if we trade, we muft fubmit to thefe rellri(51ions ; not having power to evade, or break through them. Now, admit for the fake of argument, what however in faft I deny, that the belligerents have the power to carry into eife*.^ their decrees, io per- feftly, that by reafon of the orders of Great Britain, we are phyfically difabled from going to France, and that by the edifts of France, we aie, in like manner, difabled from going to Great Biitain. If fuch be our cafe, in relation to thffe powers, the queftion is, whether fubroitting toex- ercife all the trade, which remains to us, notwithflanding the edifls, is "abjc{i and degrading" In the firft place, I obferve, that fubmifllon is not to beings conftituted as we are always " ahjed and degrading.*' We fubmit to the decrees of pro- vidence — to the laws of our nature — abfolute weakr efs fubmits to abfolute powrr — and there is nothing in fuch fubmiflijn, fhameful, or degrading. It is nodilhonour, for finite, not to contend with infinite. There is no lofs of reputation, If creatures, fuch as men, perform not impoffibillties. If, then, it be true, in the fenfe aflerted, by fome of the advocates of this report, that it is phyfically impoflible for us to trade with France and G. Britain, and their dependencies, by reafon of thefe edi(Jls, flill there is nothing " ahjeSi 'r degrading** in carrying on fuch trade, as thefe edifts leave open to us, let it be never fo fmall, or fo trifling ; which however, it might he eafily (hewn, as it has been, that it is neither the one, nor the other. Sir, in this point of view, it is no more difgraceful for us to trade to Sweden, to China, to the North Weft coaft, or to Spain and her de- pendencies, not one of which cou'itries is now included in thofe edi<51s, than it is difgraceful for iis to walk, becaufe we are unable to fly ; no more than it is fliameful for man to ufe and enjoy the fuiface of this globe, becaufe he has n(*yt, at his command, the whole circle of nature, and cannot range, at will, over all the glorious fpheres, which conftitute the nniverfe. '1 he gentleman from Tennefiee (Mr. Campbell) called upon us juft now, to tell him what wa? difjrracfful fubmifllon, if carrying on com- merce under thefe reftrietitms was not fuch fubmiii:on. I will tell that gentleman. 'I hat fubmifllon is ** a/yVi? ««•.!£■>!_— — .. :_U.._ ^^a. U^ — »,.A. •..<> _u i„ ^ ;...u...j^, vi iiij.is.v 111 vi^c^j,,. x\ io idti iiivirtji OuJ i}i;!'i-3,ii"i uec.%uit v»u iiave not force, but becauf.' we have not fpirit, to maintain them. It is .1 are phyfically ranee, we aie, f fuch be our bmitting toex> 2; the edi£ls, is igs constituted decrees of pro- nits to abl'dute or degrading. There is no impofflbilities. Ivocates of this •"ranee and G. s, Hill there is IS thefe edifts /hich however, le one, nor the for us to trade 1 and her de- in thofe edidls, ible to fly ; no fuiface of this rcle of nature, rhich conftitute :d upon us juft rrying on com* I wiU tell that which yields to re irrefiftible— arative force— 1 a part — which lod and nature, ive alfo endued nittee, may be they have not, e edidsofboth, lity to carry on ercife that com- e fuch phyfieal mmerce, which %nd di (graceful** i,not ucc^uie we ,in them. It is in this point of view, thnt I am dlfguflcd with this report. It al.jiires, wh'.t it recnmnie'icls. It declaims, in heioics, againll fubmiillon, and proprofes, in ciecping profe, a tnnie and ftivile fubfervicncy. it cannot be concealed, let gentlemen try as much as they will, that we can trade, not only with one, but with boih thefe belligerents, not- withftanding tiiefc relhiaive decrees. 'Ihe rifk to G Britain againft French capture, fcarcely amounts to two per cent, 'i hat to Fr.^ncea- gainft G. Britain is, unqueftioniably, much greater. But what is that to us ? It is not our fault, if the power of Britain on the occin is fiiperioj- to that of Bonaparte. It is equal and c\a^ juliite, between both nations, for us to trade, with both, as far as it is in »)ur power. Great as the pow- er of Bntain is, on the ocean, the enterprize -md intrepidity of our nier- chants, arc mote than a match for it. Ihey will get your p;odiK<>s !o the ; ontinent, in Ipite of her navy. But fiippofe they do not ? iinppoio they fail, and are captured in the attempt ? What is that to us ? Af- ter we have given them full notice of all their dangers, and perfeft warn- ing, either of our inability, or of our determination not to proteft them. If they taKe the rifque, it is at their peril- And upon whom decs the lofs fall ? As it does now, through the operation of your embargo, on the planter, on the farmer, on the mechanic, on the day laborer ? No, fir On the infurer, on the cipitalift, on thofe, who in the fuUcxercife of their intelligence, apprifed of all circumllances, are willing to take the hazard, for the fake of the profit. I will illuftrate my general idea, by a fuppofitlon. There are two avenues to the ocean, from the harbour of New York ; by the narrows and through Long I (land Sound. Suppofe the fleets, both of France and Great Brit-in, Ihould block up the Narrows, fo th-.:to pafs them, would be phyfically impoflible, in the relative ftate of our naval iorce. Will gentlemen ferioully contend that there would b^ .ny thing '< ahje^or dif- eractfur if the people of New York, Ihould fubmit carry on tlieir trade through the Sound? Would the rem. dy, for this interference with our lights be abandoning the ocean altogether ? Again. Suppofe that inltead of both nations blockading the f^ime, each ftiould flation its force at a different one. France at ihe mouth of the Sound, Britain at the Narrow-. In fuch cafe, would ftaying at home, and refufing any more to go upon the fea, be cxercife of independence in the citizens of New- York ? Great philofophers may call it ♦' digtitfted rst'irevient?' if they will I call it, and I am miftaken, if the people would not alfo call it, " hafe and ahjeafubmifiou.** Sir. What, in fuch a cafe, would be true honour. Why. To confider well which adverfary is weakeft and cut our way to our rights, through the path, which he obftruas. Having removed the fmaller impediment, we (hould return, with courage, ftrengthened by trial and animated by fuccefs, to the relief of our rights, from the prefTure of the flrongeft affailanl. But all this is war. And «.-,« :^ n-"fr f^ ^>'» •»>'-"»-*-'"^ Tf tb'S be fl'** national nrincinle. Avow tt. —Tell your meichants you will not protedl them. But for heaven's Take e do not deny them the power of relieving their c^m and the nation's bur- dens, by the exercife of their own ingenuity. Sir. Impaffable as tUe barriers, offered by thefe edidls are in the cftimation of members on this floor, the merchants, abroad, do not ellimate them as infurmountable — Their anxiety to rifque their property, in defiance of them is full evidence of this. 'J'he great danger to mercantile ingenuity is internal envy, the CO lofion of weaknefs, or prejudice. Its external hazard is ever infinite- ly fraaller. That praflical intelligence, which this clafs of men pofTeffes, beyond any other, in the community, excited by felf intereft, the ftrongeft of human paflions, is too eladic to be confined, by the limits of txterior human powers, however great or uncommon. Build a Chinefe wall, the wii of your merchants, if permitted freely to operate, will break through it, or everleap it, or undercreep it. niille ;i(ldr catenas Lfl'uigiot taiiH'ii, lur.c scelcratus vincula Proteus. The fecond branch ot the alternatives, under confideratlon, is equally de- ceptive. " /'{''ar 'With both natiout.'* Can this ever be an alternative ? Did you ever read in hiftory, can you conceive in fancy, a war with two nations, each of whom is at war with the other, without an union with one, againft the other, immediately refuking ? It cannot exill in ;iature. The very idea is abfurd. It never can be an alternative, whether we Ihall fight two nations, each iiodile to the other. But it may be, and, if we are to fight at all, it is a very ferious queftion, which of the two we are to fcleft a^an advetfary As to the third branch of thefe celebrated alternativi.s, " a continuance and enforcement sfthe prefentfyftem of commerce** i need not Ipend time to (how that this does not include all the alterna- tives, which exift under this head. Since the committee immediately admit, that there does exill another alternative, '' partial repeal^** about which they proceed to realbn. ^ , .^r % The report proceeds. " Thtfirft'' (abjea; and degrading fubmilfion) " canmt require any diiCuffionV Certainly not. Submifllon of that qual- ity, which the committ e alTume and with the epithets of which, they choofe to iiiveft it, can never require difcufllon at any time. But wheth- er, trading under thefe orders and decrees, be fuch fubmiffion, whether we are not competent to reliit them, in part, if not in whole, without a to- tal abondoniTient of the exercife of all our maritime rights, the compar. itive effofts of the edl^sof each, upon our commerce, and the means we poOefs to influence or control either, are alt fair anJ proper fubjedtsof difcuffion. So ne of which the committee have wholly negleded, and r^.one of wliich have they examined, as the houfe had a right to expeft. Thecommitte proceed, " to difipnte thf illufion,'" that there is any ♦' middle courte,*- and tore affert the pofition before examined, that"//;tfr^ // no other alternative then lujr nvith both natiom, er a continuance of the pre- Hnt iydem. — i his pnfition incy undcfiakc lo lupp'it t.-; ltt- ,i..v...^-..^• Fira, that " ly^ar ivlth one of the belligerents only nuou'd be vibmifon to the I I n nation's bur- >afrable as the mbers on this mountable — ; full evidence nal envy, the ever infinite- men pofTefTes, , the (Irongeft s of exterior inefe wall, the reak through is equally de- alternative ? /ar with two 11 union with ill in nature, whether we ly be, and, if if the two we life celebrated of commerce** il the alterna- immediately 'epsaly" about r fubmillion) if that qual- which, they But wheth- [lon, whether without a to- the compar. he means we er fubjeftsof iglefled, and ;htto expeft. there is any d, that " there tee of the pre - V ) aflfertions. hm'ijp'in to th: edUh and nuill of the othr." Second, that " repeal, in nvhofe or in pari, of the emhar^o, tfmfi neceftrih benuar, or jubmij/ion." A s to the fit ft afTcrtion, it is a miferable fullacy confounding cnincidence of intereft, with i, fiibjeition of will ; thin,G:s, in their nature, palpably dil- tinft. A man may <^r> what another v/ills, nay, what he commands, and not aft in fubmifllon to his will, or in obedience to iiis command. — Our intereft, or duty may coincide witk the line of condud another pre- fumes to prefcribe Shall we vindicate our independence, at the expence of OUT focial or moral obligations ? I exemplify my idea, in this way. Two bullies befet your door, from which there are but two avenues. — One of rhem forbids you to go by \he left, the other forbids you to go by the ri^ht avenue. ICach is willing thaf you fliould pafs by the way, wliich he permits. In fuch cafe, what will you do ? Will you keep houfe forever, rather than make choice of the path through which you will re- fume your external rights ? You cannot go bv;)th ways, at once, you muft make your eleiftion. Yet, in making fuch eledlion, you muft, neceffarily coincide with the wifnes, and aft according to the commands of one of the bullies. Yet who, before this committee, ever thought an eleftion of one of two inevitable courfes made under fuch circumftances, " abje(fl and deg^rading fubtfiijfion,'* to the will of either of the afl*ailants. The fecond alTertion, that *'-repeal,in'whole,ori)tpartofthe efubargo muji neceJJ'arHy he ■ people, by the sight of these foul and offensive weapons. Men, who, with little experience of their own to bnast, will fly to the tombs of their fathers, and questioning, concerning ■»-• their duties, the spirit, wliich hovers there, will no more shrink from maintaining their native rights, through fear of the sharjvness of malevo- lent tongues, than they will, if put to the trial, shrink from defending them, through fear of the sharpness of their enemies' swords. ■".»"'* t^ • %. c. y ^^*' 1) shrink from less of malcvo- •oin defending ['ds. I \ ; i: i . U i ^ ^■^ r J