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They consisted, as far as I can find, of Frenchmen 40 of Englishmen 10 50 Unfortunately several of the English Members (as, indeed, has generally been the case) were violent oppositionists ; if they should act otherwise, it is easy for the French Canadian population to change most of them at any future Election, as will appear from the national character of the Inhabitants of those places for which Englishmen were chosen. Countiea. Cathnlicfi. Profedmls. T^ I i 1 T 1 nn c%r\n ^ Tht'.se Counties Dorchester. . . . 17,189. . .... ^00 \j.^^.^^h entitled to Effingham 15,625 300f return two Mem- T • i. T-. ^r»-v , ^^)>bers, and they elec- Leinster 22,61) j Iw5f twi one f-Vem h Quebec 22,e'^31) fJQOO Va"fd'>n. and one Lnglishman. It is quite evident that the Roman Catholics can in these counties return Frenchmen, if they please, and thus dispose of four of the ten English Members. The remaining- six jVIembers are returned, 1 For Three Rivers, who may be a Frenchman, as the English inhabitants of the Town cannot as yet command the Election. 1 For William Henry, who may always be counted upon as English and Loyal. / Each of these cities return 2 For Montreal iFour Members, and it has ge- Jnerally happened that two of -v J each nation have been chosen, 2 For Quebec /but whether this courtesy would — ^ > . ^ continue, I cannot determine. 6 Should the Union take place, the New Town- ships will return ten English Members of a mixed character ; and not more than sixteen Englishmen can be reasonably expected on the part of Lower Canada, in the joint House of Assembly, which deducted from 60, the whole number of Renre- sentatives leaves 44 Frenchmen. ' . 3 UPPER CANADA. :• -0 The House of Assembly of Upper Canada, which has just expired, consisted of 10 members, but by the operation of the law for increasing the Repre-i sentation, tlie number to be elected tnis Summer,' will be 44< or 46; we shall say 46, as the more pro- bable. Of these, three will be Roman Catholics. In the last Assembly, the Divisions were commonly as three to two in favour of Government, or 24 to 16. On the most favourable supposition, therefore, the New House of Assembly will be 28 to 18. Assuming the above, as correct data, the first United Hous? of Assembly will consist of Members For Lower Canada 60 ■ ' " For Upper Canada 46 a*^>-)fh p3-a «>■, jht'^/?»i^/-"-'3''H -^ ^. - 106 ';. As distinguished by Religion, 7~ Roman Catholics, perhaps 50, but certainly 47 Protestants of all denominations 59 *\^y\ih .^ V ^g distinguished nationally,^' ^- '^ '^m'*'^ ' "'f '" French Canadians » 44 Englishmen ............ 62 Giving a majority of Englishmen of all descriptions 18 * J ! This Majority will increase at every Election, till the number of Members for Upper Canada amount to 60; thus adding 14 to the former majority of 18, making it 32. The number of English Members will increase from other causes. First. From the great influx of British Emi- grants. Second. From changing the Tenure of land, which will introduce the system of County Registers, and thus deprive the Notaries of half their influence. Third. From British Capitalists purchasing Sei- gniories, and thus acquiring an influence over their French Canadian Tenants. Fourth. From ordering the Legislature to meet at a place central for the Canadas. The Canadian French have little public spirit ; out of 50, the number of Members in their present House of Assembly, hardly more than 30 ever attend; often fewer ; were the place of meeting, there- fore, convenient for both Provinces, it is probable that very few French Canadians would be regularly present. I ^: >; ■? ryv J I> i: T T E R 10 IJIS MAJKHrV's UNOUK %\- SECRETARY OF STATE, VV e-"^ "\ •. \U. nESPECTirfO A PLAN FOR A GENERAL UNION OF THB 4 ■". * " ■ V 33ritf)Sl) ^rofttmcj?, ,.f ■'■ .,>5«?- AND ON THE SUBJECT OP THE rilOPOsrJD >■ t . ■ i'' fW/OiV O/^ THE CANADAS. ,:,-•'' -«. .' ■-:r-i:i -^W ■4 j^^-j;:v^ "''r'. '#.'»?■ isv»S lii^fer^l:? J-'i' fj,-,iiVt -.-.ia. ■ '*■'*;:"*- >;'|l*i-#»#,i*;- 1*. SS LONDON : PRINTED HY \V. CLOWES, NORTHUMBERLAND-COURT. 1824. i-,-^-,: 'II- V r it 1 dn; -.-Mi U. .)Ul' Un V ^h^^'A ' 1.' /•J *•-:■! -l.. ^1:. ..-' ' nil :^ . - '''. .-v T" ' •..•'■■« ! V''.- , .>j'i : ;.};; ,»; * Jii\j' .! • ^ ''^ '• i ^ ... v.V' V-l 6.,. A,-*,\ Loudon, lv/ .////y, \H'2i. 8iu, Having been favoured by you vvitli tbc perusal of two papers, tbc one intituled *' Ob- servations on the Policy of a General Union of the 15ritish Provinces," &c., the otiier intituled " Obscivations on a Bill for uniting the Legis- lative Councils and Assemblies of Lower and Upper Canada," &c., 1 would beg leave respectfully to oiler a few remarks on them. The writer, it appears to me, has been under nnsa])prehension, in his view of the subjects treated of, in several im- portant particulars, and has fallen into inaccurate statcmiuits, from which very erroneous impressions might be received respecting the measures referred to. I shall endeavour very succinctly to j)oint out these misapprehensions and inaccuracies. The first of these papers is distinguishable from other sug- gestions of a General Union of the Provinces, as an expedient measure, by a much larger enumeration, than is to be found in them, of the powers and duties of the proposed general government. It is plain that, in making this enumeration, the writer has confounded the powers peculiarly belonging to the local Legislatures and Governments, and of which they could not be divested, with those which might, with propriety, be assigned to a general Federative Government, and has even encroached on the sove- reignty of the parent state, in his allotment of Robert IV. HortoUt Esquire, His Majesty s Under Sccrdury , of Sfate, «^c. tj-c. should humbly conceive, on principle, as well as on the ground of a reasonable and politic regard to the II IcMjlings and vvislics ot (lie people to he aflccted by this rei»ulation, the increased duration of the Pro- vincial l*arlianient should not be carried beyond Five Years, as proposed in the Bill of \H22, In fixinjij tills duration, a medium between two extremes would be adopted, obviating the objections to Triennial Par- liaments as being too short, and those to Septennial Parliaments as being too long. The first of the points of policy, on which, it is said, the United Assembly will agree, is the as- sumption of the civil list. — With respect to the pay- ment of the whole civil expenditure of the government of the two provinces, from their own resources, no difference of opinion is likely to occur, as it is in itself reasonable and just, and the means of the provinces arc fully adequate to the burthen to be assumed. The conduct of the Assembly of U])per Canada is by the writer advantageously contrasted with that of Lower Canada, and increased difficulties are apprehended on this subject after a Union. Any facilities which may Imve been experienced in Upper Canada on this head, and to which the writer refers, would certainly afford no ground for calculating on a continuance of them in that province, even without a Union ; for, up to the present period, materials for dispute have not been afforded : no difficulties could possibly occur there, as hardly any portion of the Revenue has been raised under the authority of the provincial legislature, and the sums in question have been too insignificant to be made the subject of dispute. This, however, is ^^^ f , 15 >••» longer the case: uikIci* the Canada Tiailc Hill, tiie (Hnisfut of the Assembly of Upper Canada to the unposition of new duties to be levied at Quebec has become necessary, and a larger and i)ermancnt revenue is placed at its disposal. A bone of contention is now furnished, and no person acquainted with the present comi)osition of the Assembly of Upper Canada, and the character which it is reasonable to expect will belong to that body, without a Union, could, it is presumed, be of opinion that its dispositions would be altered for the worse, by uniting it with the Assembly of Lower Canada. The supposition, therefore, that any increased difficulties would be incurred, as respects Upper Canaxla, after a Union, is altogether gratuitous. The principal causes of the untractableness of the Assembly of Lower Canada are to be found in the foreign character of its members, and the absence of all communion of feeling with the other branches of the Government, arising as well from this foreign character, as from the exclusion of persons of property, weight, and influence, from that branch of the Legis- lature^ which obtains under the present system. After a Union, these causes would cease to operate : — an English majority would give a new tone to the feelings of the joint Assembly, and the introduction into it of persons of wealth, weight, and intelligence, would serve to connect it with the other branches of the Government,, and thus strengthen the executive power, and give consistency and unity of character to the public measures.— -In such an Assembly, in which 11 \r> much more of intelligence, and of the weij^ht ami intluence of property would be found, than in the present separate Assemblies, it is certainly quite reasonable to cx})cct tliat more enlightened views of the public interest would be entertained, and a mort liberal and cordial support given to the efficient ad- ministration of Government. There is, indeed, every rational ground for supposing that the causes of the present embarrassments and difficulties in Lower Ciinada would not only be effectually removed by a Union, but that, by tliat measure, a common national character would also be given to both provinces, in which the Englishman and Frenchman would be blended, distinguishing them from the adjoining States, and serving to connect them more intimately with the Mother Country. So far, therefore, from auguring unfavourably, respecting the civil list, from a Union, a beneficial change for the better might be anticipated from that measure ^ and this transition is certainly the more necessary, as it is impossible things can be on a worse footing than they now are in Lower Canada, on this subject. It is somewhat singular that the writer of the Observations should suggest, as the means of rendering the United Assembly more tractable, and of infusing into it a better disposition, that the con- stitution should be altered in a most material par- ticular to their prejudice, by an abridgement of their privileges, and the enlargement of the power of the Legislative Council, in what respects money-bills. As the sole power of giving would still belong to the I h !7 Ills, the Assembly, with this proposed iilteratioii, it seems singular to expect tlmt their (lis])osition to give would be increased by conferring on the Legislative Council the power of controlling such acts of benevolence, and of adding to, or diminishing their amount. A most important addition would certainly l)e made to the constitutional powers of the Legislative Council, but without any benefit whatever to the Executive Government, and certainly to the extreme dissatis- faction of the inhabitants of both provinces. As to the speculative expediency of any such alteration, it would bo presumption in me to offer any opinion. I would only beg leave to observe, that the inhabitants of the Canadas have been favoured with the consti- tution of the parent State, as far as their dependent condition would permit, — are perfectly satisfied with its excellence, — and seek no improvements, even from the adjoining soil of liberty, to which allusion is made. In referring, however, to the power given by the Constitution of the United States to the Senate, the writer ought not to have overlooked the important circumstance that the members of that body are not appointed, as the members of the Legislative Councils of the Canadas, by the executive Government, for life, but are elected by the people for short periods. So that there is no analogy between the Senate and the Legislative Councils, in the nature of their Con- stitution, or in the source from which they derive their authority ; and a power which it might be expedient to grant to the Senate, under the Constitution of the c: IS United States, it might be altogether inexpedient lo grunt to a Legislative Council, under the Constitution to be given to the Canudas. '' ' '^ '*' ' The last point, on which dilficultics and dangers arc appreliended by the writer, is one on which his apprehensions arc in the highest degree imaginary ; 80 much so, that persons personally acquainted with the Canadas must feel surprise that they should be entertained by any person. He supposes Religion to be a subject on which the Roman Catholic and Sectarian Members of the joint Legislature would con- cur in measures, to the prejudice, if not to the sub- version, of the Established Church. To exclude the supposition of any such danger, or of any hostile at- tempts against the Church, by means of any such combination, or otherwise, it is sufficient to observe that, by the present Constitution, which, in this par- ticular, would continue after the Union, no enact- ments affecting the Church, or the rights of any of its Members, can become a Law, without the previous approbation of the Imperial Parliament ; and it would be quite preposterous to apprehend danger to the Church, when, beside this security, the sanction of His Majesty, whose disposition, as well as duty, must concur in disposing him to give every support to the Church, is also required to give effect to any such enactments. In Lower Canada, out of fifty Mem- bers of the Assembly, as now constituted, there are not more than six or seven Members belonging to the Church of England ; the rest, with the exception of 19 two or throe Members who are Dissenters, heiiifi; Uoiiiaii Catholics. Yet the Church continues in in- violable security, and no person certainly entertains any apprehensions for its safety. The ellbcts of a Union will be to introduce into the joint Assembly, probably, forty or fifty Members bclonjring to tlie Established Church, — to give an English character to Lower Canada, — to increase rapidly the number of Churches of tlie Established Religion of the Stale, as a consequence of the increase of English popula- tion, and certainly, under the protection of the Government, to augment the influence and power of that Religion. Assuredly, under such circum- stances, the Church must be a gainer by the Union, and find itself much more advantageously situated, with that measure, than without it ; acquiring at the same time a much larger sphere of usefulness and influence. The writer gratuitously supposes that the Roman Catholics and Sectarians will unite against the Church. There are certainly few sympathies between these two descriptions of persons to produce Union, and many causes of antipathy to prevent it. If however, they had any common interests to pro- mote, such a supposition might be less improbable ; but they have no interests in common. The Roman Catholic Religion may be considered as an esta- blished Religion in Canada, and those who profess it have no interest in advancing the views which Sec- tarians might entertain : on the contrary, so far as interest is concerned, the Roman Catholics might be •" "' k-'- ,1' «< c 5^ 20 expected to resist any further extension of privileges to them, and, on that head, feel a community of in- terest with the established Church of the State. There is besides such an opposition in manners, habits, and modes of thinking between the Roman Catholics of Lower Canada and the Sectarians to be hereafter found in the joint Legislature, that a coali- tion between :hem for any purpose, even from this cause, is rendered improbable in the extreme. It seems quite unnecessary, therefore, to canvass con- jectures as to the relative proportion of Members in the joint Legislature, to be furnished by Roman Catholics, by persons professing the Religion of the State, and by Sectarians. Under the salutary pro- visions of the Constitution, no advantages can be gained in the joint Legislature by one religion at the expense of the other, and least of all can any ap- prehension be entertained for the interests of the Religion of the State. That it is not difficult for the writer to come to such conclusions, as he is desirous of establishing, is exemplified, when he proves that a majority of Protestants (which it is admitted will be obtained by the Union) will become a minoritv, by assuming that all the Roman Catholics will attend, and only a part of the Protestants will be found in their places. On such grounds of reasoning, it would be difficult to satisfy the person entertaining them respecting securities. The assumption, however^ that there will be greater diligence and assiduity on the part of the Roman Catholic, than the Protestant/ ^l members, in tlie discharge of their legislative duties, is not conformable to experience. On the contrary, in' Canada, the former have always been less exact in their attendance, and have exhibited less zeal and perseverance than the latter. The writer has afford- ed proof of this, in asserting elsewhere that of fifty members for Lower Canada, seldom more than thirty have given continued attendance. ' Under the head of causes :: '"' danger to the Church, and with a view to a modification of the present Constitution for its safety, it is alleged, " that the ** state of the two Churches is very different; the '* Provincial Legislature have nothing to do, either " directly or indirectly with the Romish Church, but " the same Legislatures may vary, or repeal, or '* modify, the thirty-first of the King, in as far as " respects the Church of England." In making this assertion, the writer has laboured under a mistake : the Roman Catholic Church has no such advantage, as he supposes, over the Church of England ; on the contrary, both Churches stand precisely on the same footing with respect to the power of the Provincial Legislatures over them. These are competent to acts of Legislation, as to both, but subject to the same restrictions, which ensure the safety of both Churches, and the rights of their Ministers. To be convinced of this, it is only necessary to refer to the 35th, 41st, and 42d Sections of the 31st Geo. III., Cap. 31, which it is proposed to re-enact in the Union- Bill. The policy of the provisions in these clauses is 22 too evident to require any (Observation; and the writer has been lamentably mistaken in supposing that he would benefit the Church of England, and add to its security, by a simple repeal, as he proposes, of the 41 8 1 and 42d Sections of the Act last mentioned, in so t*ar as the same relate to the Church of England, as the effect of such repeal would be to leave an un- restricted power of Legislation, in the hands of the Provincial Legislature, over the Church of England, while the Roman Catholic Church, and even Sectarians, would enjoy the benefit of the restrictions imposed by the 35th and 42d Sections. The writer has also laboured under misapprehension in his observations respecting the 25th clause of the printed Bill of 1822. This claui^e does not, as he supposes, establish the supremacy of His Majesty in Canada. This was done by the introduction of the public Law of England, as one of the effects of the Conquest of Canada, and by the express provision of the Act 14th Geo. III., Cap. 83d, Sec. 5th. Having, on a former occasion, re- spectfully submitted an opinion respecting the Clause now referred to, I forbear to make any further ob- servation respecting it. In noticing the want of a well-constituted Court of Appeals in the two Pro- vinces, and suggesting the establishment of one, the writer has, I apprehend, connected with the proposed measure of a Union, a question somewhat foreign to it : and althou h the establishment of such a Court on proper principles might be highly useful, and be very desirable, I humbly conceive that it is a matte*' wl'ich it would be expedient to leave to the discretion of the future joint Legislature. Of the expediency of repealing the provisions contained in the Canada Trade Bill, which were intended to settle the dif- - ferences respecting Revenue and Imposts, I humbly think no doubt can be entertained. The cause of the evils intended to be remedied by these provisions will be removed by a Union, and it would be highly inexpedient to leave them in force, though no longer applicable, as a source of conflicting claims, and of contention, in the joint Legislature. -obwov/ ' I have to apologize for the great length to which this letter has become extended, and for which I can only expect to find an excuse in the great importance of the subject in question, and in my anxiety to pre- vent erroneous impressions respecting the proposed Union of the Canadas, the adoption of which mea- sure I feel convinced is alike necessary for the interest of the parent State, and for the securitv and prosperity of those Colonies. I will only beg leave further to trespass on your attention, by subjoining a short statement, exhibiting the probable future composition of the joint Assembly. I have the honor to be, with great respect. fj3*:&Cf<^*!: Sir, oJ ii-^idio? it- Your most obedient, humble Servant, iimO ^d:^m ic j. STUAllT ^ od hm '.^A'/Mr. 'fin; t^nVj (^>if|l:)fihq t^qoi(| no I'MUm , , ,. l;:rii 'j'iiTir^'t'j- vMtmWil ,'iUiinmh rt^f'/ 24 STATEMENT exhibiting the probable future corn- position of the joint Assemblt/, after a Union, The number of Members in the Assembly of " Lower Canada, as now constituted, is 50 This number will be increased under the proposed Union-Bill 10 Making the entire number of representatives for Lower Canada 60 Of this number it will be in the power of the English population to return twelve without con- test, including in that number the Members for William Henry and Gasp^, in the election of whom no French interest can be exerted. The towns of Quebec and Montreal now return, each, two English Members, and the town of Three . Rivers, one. Although this might be prevented by unanimity in the French Canadians, ii is not ^^ likely this unanimity will be manifested, and it is v probable that, with the increased exertion of the English influence after a Union, the present number of Englishmen may be returned for those parts of the province, in which the French popu- lation is the most numerous. The number of Representatives for Upper Canada, in the joint Legislature, taking the re- presentation of that province as it stood when the Union-Bill was introduced in 1822, will be ... . 40 Making the entire number of representatives in t the joint Assembly, after the Union 100 95 This number will, under the above supposition, be composed of ^ French Members for Lower Canada 39 English Members for ditto 2[ English Members for Upper Canada 40 Affording an English majority of . . . - 22 But if the French interest should be exerted, ,^ so as to exclude English Candidates altogether, ^ throughout the Province of LowerCanada, where ?i^^ that interest prevails, then the numbers would stand thus. — .... English Members returned by places inhabited by Englishmen in Lower Canada 12 English Members returned by Upper Canada. . 40 French Members returned by parts of Lower 4.^ Canada, inhabited by French and English . . 4$ -■&,•■ ■ ■ : — ^ .:: .100 Affording an English Majority of ...... , ; .^ . . 4 This latter supposition is altogether improbable, and it is more likely that the English majority would be from ten to fifteen in the first session of the joint legislature, after a general election. • That this majority woiild be increased after all future elections there can be no doubt, as the causes of national prejudice would fast wear away after a Union, and a rapid increase of the English population in Lower Canada would take place from immigration, with an augmentation of influence from increased numbers and the acquisition of real property. Ths English majorities above stated would also be increased, if Upper Canada should be permitted to benefit by the increase in her representation since 1822. Considering, however, the advantageous terms, in what respects the number of her represen- tatives, on which it was proposed to admit her into the Union, by the Bill of that year, and the unrea- sonably rapid increase in her representation which her present laws authorize, it may, perhaps, be thought reasonable and proper that her represen- tation should be taken as it stood in 1822, without admitting into the joint assembly the representatives who may have since been added to the number of her members in the present assembly. It is to be observed that elections are now going forward in Lower and Upper Canada. If the same number of Englishmen should be returned for Lower Canada for the next, as for the late Parliament, which is probable, and if the joint assembly should be permitted to sit before a future general election, then, by adding to the present representation of Lower Canada the ten members who may be re- turned immediately, under the authority of the Go- vernor, as provided in the Union-Bill, an English majority of twenty-two would be obtained as a -^mmmrn^ 27 matter of certainty, without the hazard of election, even though the number of representatives for Upper Canada should be limited to forty, as proposed in 1822. ft*?. VT" London, 1st July, 1824. ^^-fi viK ;a-siv^ tM,1oi:<: ^U \'k '• .\- 1.-- ^'•-.-■■r> ^-.■.tr.,;lv. '-■^: Jlt'i' ,;;,--^-f-- .5:.^ J •■v-' i> /r'^:.W"5*fJ^| '! -: ' r i ^ 01 s 'in