IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) // f/j ® 1.0 I.I K^MM |2.5 1 50 ■^" HRl^B 1-25 1 1.4 J4 1.6 6" Sdraices Corporation 23 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, N.Y. 14S80 (716) 872-4503 iV %, .if ■ > * ■ IX .1 j?. % 'S.V. t.*-. ,4»ft: 5. >*?«.■: •.-(ii«e in Patemofier-Row i G. B R s T T, at the T/jree Croium on Ludgate-Hilli and R, A M ^ r in the Court of Reque/is. 1745. [ Price Tyro SHltllMGl.J TKfc) t^lGi-aro!. y*] m- % f^ ^■' T 'i3 0-!J> ►JT »■**»»»—■»» #^•5 m \ /J- 5 i Captain MIDDLETO N\ REJOINDER T O Mr. £)0^^5's Reply, ^c. A D my Antagonifl kept the Pro- miie he made, in the fecond Page of his nominal new Performance, to make Ufe of no Dilguife, I fliould have been under no Ne- ceflity of again troubling the Public ; but he Jiaving either forgot (in the liurry, in which 'tis pretty evident he conipolcd that Pamphlet, tho' 'tis about 8 or 9 Months li nee I publifhed my Reply ^) but he, I fay, having fjrgot this Promife, or found it would coil him too much to make it gocd^ has compelled me to anfwer lii> lali, but not new Performance, as great Part to of it is what has been botl) piibliriieJ and fully anfwered before. I fliall be as concilc in my Anfwer to it as poiliblc, tho' I Ihall not drop any thing material (if any thing material is to be found in his Book) as I will not follow the difingenuous Example fet mc by- Mr. Jjohbsy who has taken no Noiice of what gravel'd him, treating fuch as Trifles below his Regard, no way material to the Point in C.Juefl:ion, vlx. my Mifcondud'. I am, however, of Opinion, that the anonymous Letter, which I let him know was fufpcdted to be his own, regarded both his Charadler and mine, as it was the Ground on which he founded his Charge : His anfwcring nothing to this Head, my Charge mult be taken fro CcKfcJfo'y indeed, he meiitions my taxing iiim with it, but does not even endeavour Xo dear himfelf, which is a little furprizing ; for he has given fufficient Proof that he is thorough Mailer of elufory Arts, as I fliall fully nhike appear in feme material Points with which I taxed him, and from which he vainly, tho' very artfully, endeavours to get off : Mr. Tiobhs alk> drops SatchelH Affidavit, and has been tamper- ing with him by his Inffrument Thompfcn. If Mr. Dchbs can get either the Government,, or private Adventurers, to enter upon a fecond Wild'Goofe ChacCy the Redilt will thoroughly prove which of us two have had the flriclcll Regard to Truth in the Courfe of our preient Debate. I am very far from dreading the Iffue of fuch an Attempt, tho' Mr. Dobbs is pleafed to hint and I [3] and jiverr it In Pag. i, and 3 ; for I am pofitivCj as I have heretofore faid, there is no Palllige as far as I went ; and if any one can pudi farther, and an Opening between the two Seas can be difcovered, it cunnot pollibly be of Advantage, as the pairing thro' i': mull be impradlciible. If the Gentlemen, his Informers, will rii'quc their Lives and Hcr.cur in u fecond Trial, or more properly in going dirc<^tly to the Place, where they huvc already difcovcred a Paliage leading to the Weftcrn American Ocean, I fliall he.irtily wiih them a fpeedy and fafe Return, tho' it fliould be with the Lofs of their Ho- nour, which all, who know how chary they are of it, not beino; over-ilock'd with that Commodity, muft own would be a terrible Mi^-f)rtane. Ml . T)rMs has been pleafed to acknowledge himfcif warm * In fome of his Expreflions: He thinks he charged me once with Roguery ; he thinks his Warmtli excufable ; he thinks I gave him peifonal Provocation, and thi7iks I gave him Biliinpfgate Language. This confefling and avoiding, I fliould not have taken Notice of, did I not think the often Repetition of the Verb to think, poi'-'ts out who drew up the Lieu- tenanrs Anfwer to the firlt Query, in which he fax'S, -f I think the Water was fait » I pafs by what he has taken out of my Re- ply, &c. as I believe the Public are very little concerned about the Manner of our Acquaint- B 2 vice * Vide Page 4. f Vid. Pag. 156, Vindication. ■i ! [4] ance beginning ; bciide, whether of us two folicitcd the other no ways regards my fuble- qiient Roguery in concealing a Patlage : Enough has been olrcady faid on that Subjed:. . As to his Jnlinuation of my being admitted a Member of the Hi't^fon's-Bay Company, I am forry he cannot ■.\o readily prove as he is willing to have tlie World believe he has Grounds to imagine it. Mr. Dohhs^ after be- ilowing about nine Pages upon the above To- pic, of our frll Acquc.intance, in Page :2, fiatly denie? he ever made any Offers, or ever promifed to recommend them (meaning his three Witncfll-s) until they bad ghen in, and made cut, ikcir Charge again/i mc, before the Admiralty : Mr. DMs's Warmth was here hurrying him on too fad, but he was foon aware of 1^, and, therefore, came off from po- iitively denying what the World, * nay, he himfelf, murt allow rally proved upon him, by diflinguifhing, in Point of time ; but even this won't avail him, as he acknowledges, be did make theyn Offers and Fromifcs, to recommend them, by faying they were not, before they had brciiglt in, and made out, &:c. That tiicy brought in their Charge is incon- teflably true, but that they made it out before xYxQ. Admiralty ic pofitively falie. - ' i Ha4 » Vide WiipPx, /J::davk, Pag. nF, ^ /?• Vinaicntion. Tit. Macbeaih, Fag. i8q, I)it. Dfwiide in dit. Pag. 147, b* 4 Had Mr. iMh ipf)ucn iti the Disjun(5liv«r, yse fhoukl even then luivc lud his Word only again ft Affidavit'-. He docs I'Ot fiy brought m or made out, ^c, hut, {ind tJiadc cut. • Now, our preknt Difputc, and my not being ccnfured hv the Lords of the Admiralty, but, on the contrary, their Lordlhips having let me know that they h.ad n.othing to objedt to my Condudl', arc iutiicicnt I'rools that his Witncllcs could not verify tJitii Charge, confequently, that Mr. JjMs's Difuri^-tion, with regard to the qiia/uloj avails lilui nothing; ; and he con- fclll's the Charf^e ot" Offers, (^c. which looks lilvc fomethins; more than tampering ; it may be called C n. Page 13, our Champion for Truth, whom I have thislnfiant convicKd of denyiiig it, f.ells US, that L'y'vegroi)e fpoke Irecly of Openings at IVhalC'Cove and Murhle-Jjland: I have already given a thorough Anfv/cr * with regard to thefe ncvv' invented Openings. And 1 defire fome better Autliority to fupport this Allerdon than the Evidence of his Witncffis, who are not competent ni this Cafe, as they are Parties con- cerned in Intercll. I fhail not tliroughont follow Mr. Dohhs Paragraph by Paragraph, and tire myfelf and Reader with anfwering repeated Charges, al- ready refuted 3 but after I have ihewn that his taxing /I?' * Vide Vintlicatioiij Pag. 10, and Pa;:;. 137 and 138. I ; taxing me with liaving concealed a PalTage, which I had actually diicovered, is contrary to Reafon, as it made againfl my Intereft, I fhali then, if I find his Pamphlet contains any thing new and wortliy of Notice, coniider minutely 'j^'hat he has faid, efpecially with regard to Tides, &c. and laflly, propofe to Mr. Dobbs a very fliort and eafy Method to determine this prefent Conteft. ^ , yi I deem it needlefs for me to enter upon prov-* ing that I was, before I threw it up to go upon the Difcovery of a N. W. Fallage, in a very profitable Employment ; Mr. Dobbs admits it, and, I flatter myielf, that the mofl partial of his Friends will allow I muft- have had fonie Views of making ftill greater Advantage to in- duce me to take the Step I did, that is, quit a certain lucrative Bufinefs, and expofe myfelf to the Fatigues and Dangers which are too well known infeparable from the Undertaking ; and thefe Views mufl either arife from fome Ground or be chimerical. If this is allowed me, it follows that fuch Views mull have been either prefent, or future, certain, confidcrable, or of a compound Na- ture, or precarious, they mufl: be Views of ade- quate Rewards. I averr, they were of promifed, and not chimericul Ativantages j if I did not fucceed, the GoverniBent, according to fuch Promife, was to coin pen fate the Lofs I fuftained by throv\ing v\; my Employment, and to rriake mc [7 ] tne a confiderable Prefent * at my Return for the Hardfhips and Dangers of the Voy- a,s:e ; if I did fucceed, befide the aforefaid Compenfation, I was to have a Royal Grant of any Lands I Ihould difcover, bordering on the Weftern Americc.yi Ocean. I had not, *tis true, the Precaution to afk any Security for the Performance of thefe ftipulated Con- ditions, which induced me to quit a benefi- cial Service, to enter upon a very perilous Attempt, as is evident, a Number of my Men having loft their Lives, and a great many more the Lie of their Limbs, by the Severity of the Climate. I have no other Excufe for my hav- ing been guilty of fo great a Weaknefs, but the entire Confidence I repofed in the Probity and Honour of the worthy Mr. Dobbs, But that Gentleman denies what I aflert; confequently, it follows that I had no Ground for hoping any Reward, either certain or preca- rious, of whatever Nature -, that, at my Requefl, he propofed the Voyage, and follicited the Go- vernment to employ me, who being hurry'd on, either by my Zeal for the public Good, or by my own chimerical Notions, never propofed or even dreamt of Conditions ; for the immenfe Treafures with which I had flatter' d myfelf of obtaining by the Difcovery, or my Roman Pub- lic Spirit had had fuch an EfFedt on my Brain, that I very judiciouily quitted an Employment in * Vide Mr. Dobbs's Letter In the Seq. where, after he was convinced no Paflage could be found, he thinks I dererve of the P'lblic, having left my Employ for its Service. in which I could make but the trilling Sum of 800 /. per Ann. and bes^ged Mr. Dobbs to em- ploy his Intcrell: to procure me the Command of a King's Ship to profecute one or other of thefe propofed End-. From the Preaiilcs only one of tliefc two can be inferred, that either I was a very pubUc fpi- rited Man, or a crack-brained Fool ; I am la- tisfy'd Mr. DchbswxW not compliment mc with the latter Appellation, as it will relied: upon himfelf, who were he younger would, he has faid, go upon the Difcovery ; and I dure lliy, he will not allow me the Honour of having under* taken the Search gratis^ from a Love to my Country, and Hopes of extending her Domi- nions and Trade. If then I had no Promife of any certain, or even precarious Reward, and that my leaving my Employm.ent to undertake tlie Difcovery was neither from a public Spirit, nor to be deemed an irrational Procedure, I mull: have had good Grounds to hope 1 Ihould, from the Gratitude of my Country, be amply rcv^arded if I fucceeded in my Searcli, as the Difcovery would be a very c;reat Advantage to the Public. Suppof ng this tl-e fole Motive, hew abfurd, how contrary to Realbn, is it to fiy, that I was to expect nothiu';'; if 1 did not difcover a I*aillige ; and, at the lame time, eliarge me with having concealed it : I'hc former, a Lord of the Admiralty told me 5 an.d Mr. Dobbs can oifer no other Realbn for my going on the Voyage, ;ind is ahb the Pcrfon who accufcs me with having "f [9] having concealed that PalTage, which I muft have hoped would enrich my Family if diA covered. I don't fuppofe that Lord knew the Promiles made me, and now ungeneroufly denied. , ^ ,. ri.si^ . 'Tis very tiije, I had fangume Hopes of making the Difcovery, and if my Reward de- pended on my Succefs, 'tis an irrefragable Proof that my Hopes were very great ; I have already lliewn that they were founded on an Account which my own Obfervations have proved falfe, I need not repeat what may be feen in my Re- ply P, 20. I need fay no more on this Head. As foon as I purchafed Mr. Dobbs's Reply, I read it curforily over -, but after that T had ex- amined it more narrowly, with v^hat has been aheady publiflicd, I find that the greater Part of this Performance, which he boafled was to expofe me thoroughly (I think it does himfelf) is Repetition, and of what has been alreadv fully anf.vered, with a plentiful Addition of Scurrility. In P. 13. Mr. Dohl'S aflerts Lcvcgrove talked freely of Openings at 7F!:alc-Coi:c\ ^c. I ihall put this upoji the Veracity of more credible VVitncifcs. I have enquired of the Mailers of the Company's Sloops, Mr. Ligkt and Mr. Smithy whether there arc any Openings ? They knov/ of none. They are notr.ow in the Com- pany's Service, nor any way dependent on them. But I fuppoic Mr. Dobbs will objccl to their Kvidence, as they formerly have been ; for };e Vv'ou'd flrip every one of aliCredit^ v;ho contra- C . dict^ if ^.l \l [ ^o 1 cli(^s what he would impofe on the World for Tiiith. . He fays, in the fime Page, I acknowledge the Lands near the iFelcome were broken. He muft acknowledge that what was fet down in Council, was from the Appearance of the Lands, not from Experience, for we had not then fearched them, and all Head-Lands, and Bays ap- pear at a Dillance like broken Lands, and In- lets, which every Mariner will allow. The Coaft we found, on fearch, to be all Main- Land, with Head-Lands and Bays. The call- ing a Council to fearch farther than I was or- dered, is Proof I had the Difcovery ac Heart. Mr. Dobbs alksif it is not falfe that I faw Whales without Wager River, G?c. I fay, No; *tis ACTUAL Truth. He next comes to the 7«- dlam defiring to be fet alhore at Cape Fullerton^ which he treats as a Falfity. Here is a flrong Proof that Mr. Dobbs either has but a weak Memory, or endeavours to puzzle his Readers; has he not himfelf printed in the Extradt of iS'rr^^.f^s Journal, P. 1 1 5. oiMrX^(^\i%' sRemarks^ that, " He, Scroggs, fent the Boat to the Cod of the Bay to found, and the two Northern Indians went in her, one of whom had a great Defire to go Home, which he told ScroggSy was but three or four Days Journey from thence. He detained kim by fair Words *' and Promifes.*' Here we fee it pofTible that an Indian could, and was not afraid, to travel among th^e dangerous EJkimaux^ confequently, there arc nolflands which rec^uire Rafts or Floats, But (C 4 I fhall take the Liberty to tranfcribe Part of P. in thislaft Performance of Mr. Do^^'s, which calls his Reply. " P. 14 and 15, he( /. eA) is endeavouring to juftify the Mailer, upon his giving a different T'^flimony before the Lords of the Admiralty in his Parole Evi- dence, from what he gave in Writing, or more properly was didlated for him by the Captain, taxing me with Want of Integri- ty and Memory, and that my Reafon is im- paired, when this Affair of the Difcovery is in queflion ; adviling the Mafler, to keep to his Journal and Report, otliervvife he would appeal to them, and he gave the fame Cau- tion to the Lieutenant." " He furely forgets that he prevailed with both Lieutenant and Mafter to copy from his Log and Journal ; alledging, that iince it was one and the fame Voyage, the Journal would be the fame, and it would favc them 4I <( C( (C 'In Page 15, Mr. Dobbs tells us, that Mn G///, with regard to the Water in Wager Ri- ver, faid. That the Bottles were all brackiih, ' and fo fait that they could not be drunk : What Proof does Mr. Dobbs bring of this, and of my tearing three Leaves out of my Journal, and inferting others ? Does he bring any other than his own Ipfe dixiy and may not he be fuf- pedled of being a little hiflorical in this Point, as well as I have proved lie has been in many others ? I own I do not believe, from what I have obfcfved of that Gentleman's Behaviour during the Voyage and after our Return, that he is capable of faying what Mr. Dobbs affirms he did} but let us fuppofe the Leaves h;ii/ing been torn out is a Fad", how could it affcjft the Ship's Log-Book, to which Mr. Dobbs fo often appeals, and from which ws all copy'd ? I • '• '- hope [ .6] Mr. Dobbs will allow Mr. Gilly who was a young Seaman, might poflibly make Millakes in writing off the Log for me, and if he had made any I might tear out the Leaves, and in- fert others that were more correal, for it was not the Journal but the Wafte-Book that Mr. G/V/at times wrote in from the Ship's Log : It is a Faft which I do not remember, but if it will do Mr. Dobbs any Service he ihall have it his own Way, as the original Journals now in 1Vy< gate's Hand- Writing copy'd from my Log, are at any time to be produced -, but, for my Part, I cannot difcovcr what he would inferr from it, or of what life it can be to him, lince it was at the beginning of a Search for the Paflage, and lince it could make no Alterations in the Folio Log-Book, where every Manfets down^ in his Watch^ as he acknowledges, a?id was as ca- pable as I to mark doivHy all Occurrences, I fay, I know not of what Ufe it can be to Mr. Dobbs^ if not to give fuch of his Readers, who are igno- rant of Sea AlTciirs, a Notion that I have been guiky of very foul Pradticcs, tho* it is vifible to every knowing Man, that whether this Alle- gation is Trutli or not, is nothing efi'ential, for it could not alter the Obfervations of others ; but I can retort this upon the worthy Gentle- man Iiimfelf, that in his printed Extrad: in the 1 olio Log, on wliich he depends fo greatly, he has been far from giving the Public a true Abridgment, for he has from my Log and Journal inferted what he fancy 'd would make againll 'V t -■* t,f againft me, and left out whatever made for me in his favourite Wafte-Book. As to what he fays of Mr. Lendrick, P. 1 5, 1 6, I Ihall only anfwer by r. Reference to it j and as to the Letter from Mr. Lcndrick to Mr. Dobbs, P. 17 and Seq. I do not believe it ge- nuine, becaufe it contradids all that he has de- clared to Mr. Dewilde, * and others, an.l on board the Monmouth^ and his Copy in the Poft- fcript diifers from the Copy of the Letter he fent me, fo that Mr. Dobbs's Obfervation upon the whole weighs nothing ; if it is genuine it plainly fliews that I entertained too good an Opi- nion of that Gentleman, as 'tis evident I alfo had of Mr. Dobbs^ and that he has too great an Influence over Mr. hendrick. What Mr. Tiobbs has formerly fald, and what he has publiflied in his Reply, which I am now anfwering, prevents my being furprized at any thing that comes from him 3 I fliould cthcrwife be amazed at what he has printed in P. 20, vix. The Copy of the Letter he andG'iWfint me is a!jo altered by Qipt. Middieton, for inftead of thefe two Men V/ygate and Thompfon the Captain has added thefe two (worfi of) Men. I have by me the Letter in which I am i?.xcA with hav- ing infcrted the above Words : Mr. ylllen knows his Hand as does no doubt Mr. Dctbs. I liave D flicwn * Mr. Deivilde is ready to make Oath, That Mr. Lendrtck and Gill ofFered their Affidavits to fuppoi t what they had idid in my Favour, if I would gef an Order from the Admiralty to examine them ; for they feared, if they did it voluntarily, they fiiould difobljge Mr. VMi and his Friends, :i [i8] flicwn it to that Gentleman and to Mr. Orr's JJi other, they believe it to be his Hand, and it is evident that the whole is written by the fame Perfon, that tlie Words " word of" is con- tained in it, in the fame Character, and not in- ferted. Wherefore, Mr. Dobh has no Way to come off here but by taxing me with forging this Letter, as he does with corrupting all the WitneiTcs who appear againft him, and who, for that very Reafon, are either willfully perjur'd or grofsly decciv'd. As to tlie Frozen Straits mentioned in his P. 2 T , it is incontefiably proved by the Carpenter, iK)w Mate of a Ship; he is a Navigator, and took the Draught upon the Spot; it is in his Jour- nal, and feveral of the Men on board the Fur- nace iaw it. I refer my Reader to tlie Mailer's Anfvver to Query ii, before the Lords of the Admiralty, P. J77, Virid. for the Reality of tliis Strait. I fliall take Notice in the Sequel of what Mr. Dobbs fays with relation to Capt. ISpurrcl, whom he calls a Witnefs of doubtful Credit, and infinuates more, "oiz, that if he really did lay what I advanced, yet he is a Hud- fon'sBayCt?//^?/;;, Sec. Very candid in the wor- tjiy Nh-. Dobbs^ and a great Compliment paid to iill the Commanders in the Company's Ser- With rep-ard to the Neap-Tidcs rifmg, &c\ with a N. and N. Vv.Wind at Cburcbill, as Mr. Dobhi lays, P. 22, yet, I fay, at 30 or 40 Leagues Dirtance the Wind mav be at N. E, or E. for 'th often tound that the Wind does not blow^ [ ^9] 20 Leagues upon the fame Point, witnefs the Storm I met with tlie ill o£ Nov. 1740, in Tar- moul/j Road, was at N. N. W. which dro\c al- mofl 100 Sail over and upon the Sands, many per!ih'd, and I loll: all my Marts j at the lame time in the Ocean, half Way between Scoluwd and Norway^ the Wind was E. N. E. and along the Torkjhu'e and Lincolnjhire Coaft at N. E. and tho' it was To violent a Hurricane it did not reach Port/mouth : So that nothing can be con- cluded from the Winds raifing the Tides at the Place of Obfervation. Page 2^, Mr. Dobbs aflcs, whether I al- low the I-lcio;ht of the Tide taken at the WcI- co7?je', or was the Height of the Tide taken at Deer Sound, tho' very incorrectly, a Proof that it did not flow five Fathom at the Welcome "^ \ anfwxr that it was taken at; the Welcome, if he will allow Wager Tltve?''s Entrmicc to be at the Welcome, and if he v/ill not, I fay tliat the Tide was try'd within a few Leagues of the Place where Scroggs lay in tlie Welcome 5 and therefore it is a Proof that it did not flow five Fathoms as Mr. 'Dobbs would have the World believe it did : But, as a fiirther Proof that there (jonld be but very little Difference of the Tides between the Mouth of Wager Rivor, and the Place where Scrcggs found his five Fatiioni Tide, about 20 or --o Miles diftantfrom Wa^er River, I fliall obferve that at the frozen StJ'aits it flowed 1 6 or i 8 Foot, near the fame at Savage Sound, and the Mouth of Wager River, Mar^ blc-lfiand, and about a Foot lels at Clwrbill ; at . D 2 all [20] all thefe Places they flow four or five Feet more or lefs, as they are retarded or accele- rated by adverfe or conlpiring Winds : Now if there fs fo little Difference of the Hei2;ht of the Tides, betv/ixt thefe two Extremes, Frozen Straits and Churchill^ a Space of about 5 or 600 Miles ; can there be fuch a Difference in 20 or 30 Miles as near ^', or 12 or 14 Foot? Where- fore the Tides try'd at the Mouth of the Ri- ver, and at other Places mentioned, is a fufli- cient Satisfaftion, and proves that they could not rile five Fathoms where Scroggs was in the Welcome : Mr. IJobbs fays, very dogmatically, that the Height of the Tide taken at Deer Sound was very incorredly 5 I agree with him, but it was very carefully taken, for there is no fuch thing in Nature as to take them cor- redly, fo as to depend upon the Height of their flowing the next Tide j the firft Report of the Lieutenants, ijthand i6th of Jtily^ and alfo the Mafler's and Lieutenant's joint Report the 28th dit. fhew that they were try'd, and this lafl: Report was i.iter the Pole v/as loft: That the Pole was overflowed, and was 15 Foot long, are bold Affirmations; for whether it was over- flowed or not v/as a difputed Point when they returned on board, and was one Reafon for my fending them back again to put an End to the Queftion; the Pole which was but 12 Foot long was carried av/ay tlie fime Tide it was fet up, and on their iecond Trial, they found that the Tide flowed no more than 10 Foot at Deer Sound, [ 21 ] Sound. See the Lieutenant's and Mafler's Re- port, P. no, Find. - But I mufl here obferve, tliat the Tides are, or are not, a Proof of a Paffage, as it fuits Mr. Dohbs. In \\\:->R:marks^ they were a ilrong Indication, and he has often built upon the Height of tlie Tides, but here an extreme, livgri Tide is nc Proof, and one of 1 5 Foot is a. ::!? - niiicant as one of 30 5 poffibly it may be lb ^i^c his Views, but why then has he been throwing Dufl into his Readers Eyes, with Scroggs's five Fathom ? Why will he llreLcli contrary to the Report iXDeer Sound from Jo Foot to upwards of 15. P. 26, he mentions the two Inftances he had given of the Magellan and Hudfon's Straits. I will allow in the Firfl, that the Tides meet and leflen ; but that is no Proof of frefh Water, as to Hudjhn's Straits. Experience Ihews, that tlie Tide fiows only from the Eajiern American Ocean ; hh Endeavours to prove the Influx of another Ocean,, ha:^ tb«roughout proved the con- trary ; he now brings for a Proof the lefTening of the Tide from four Fathom to fix Feet at Q^refs Swans Nc/i ; Fox^ from whom he takes this, did not try it himii;lf at this lafl meation'd Place, but trufled to his People, and they brought liim but a very blind Account ; but that the Public may be able to judge Oi* the Improbability of the Tides leflen ing fo much at Carey s Sivans Neji\ I will begin with their Height at tlie Entrance of Tludfons Strait s^ which 15 called Rcfv!utic?i, v/herc I was fome Days i [22] Days in Harbour, and fo proceed thro' the Straits quite to the JVefi-Main, and take the fame Eaftern Tide with uc. At Refolution it flows five Fathoms ; at Cape ChmHes ^ of the Way up the Straits, and where I ftaid two Tides, it flows four Fathoms and ): ; at the Eafl End of Noftinghaniy where I was alfo afiiore 8 or 9 Hours, it flows four Fathoms; in a Bay be- twixt Cape Pembroke and Sea-Horfe Point, Fox tells us he fat up all Night, and try'd the Tide by marking the Lead Line, and watching it himfelf he found it flow 23 Foot. At Marble- IJlandy Churchill River and Tork Fort, it flows from 16 to 18 Foot, thefe two latter are about 120 Leagues diftant from where Fox obferved that it flowed 23 Foot, and Carcfs Swan's Neji not being above 25 Leagues dillant from the fame Place, and in a dired: Road to the three Places before mentioned, how is it probable that the Height fhould leflen 16 or 17 Foot in fo fhort a Diflance, and yet leflen but flx Foot in running 120 Leagues the fame Courfe ? Surely Mr. Dobbs defigns to affront the Under- ilanding of his R^eaders, by endeavouring to impofe upon thcmwliat he himlelf cannot be- lieve ; was he fore that wliat he advances upon Fox's Account Is no Abiiirdity, as I think it has very much the Air of be'tig one ? Why has he taxed mc with my not Iiaving try'd the Tide at that Place, both in my going out and coming home? Every one who has written upon this, from his own Experience, acknowledges the Diredtioa of the I'ide of Flood is froni the Nor til t 23 ] North Eaflward down the Welcome * farther :' Mr. Dobbs may have oral Evidence of thia from feveral Mailers now at home, but I fear he will object that they are Hudfon^s-Bay Cap" tainSy and, as fuch, are of no Credit. " P. 27, he mentions the Water's being brackifh : This is a repeated Charge, and fully refiited ; he mentions Gwy's Affidavit, which was drawn up for him, he fays j I will allow it was, but was it not drawn up from Lis own Mouth, and did he not read and conlider it ? Juftice Poulfon read it over to him, very diftindtly, before he fwore it : He fays, this Affidavit is contrary to the Lieutenant's, the Mailer's, when before the Lords of the Admiralty, Captain M?cr's, and the Surgeon's Evidence ; as to the Mafter, he has denied upon Oath what Mr. Dobbs has charged him with ; and its being contrary to the Evi- dence of the others is to me a ftrong Proof that their Evidence was falfe -, but as Mr. Dobbs pro- mifes in the Sequel to fpeak more to tliis Point, I Ihall poftpone what I have further to fay 'till I come to that Place. His Scurrility in P. 28, 29, are below my Notice ; I fliall only obferve, that he has dropt his great Sweep to the South- ward, and has brought Norto)t back from the Age of 17, as in in P. 25 iii hi^ Remarks^ and makes him now, in P. 29, of his RH>h\ but 14 : What is it Mr. Dohb^ hcfitates at, which he thinks may be of oervice to hisCauie I sii IX 301 ,:J f Vide f«;r, Kthe-i III ;l!, [ 2+] P. 30, Mr. Dobbs fays, that Frojt affirms he travelled a confiderable Way from Churchill N. W. I faid he never had travelled 50 Miles to the North v^ard or Weftward of Churchill ; and there are Perfons in Town who alTert he never travelled 30 Miles either Way. I had overlooked a Paragraph with relation to his Northern Indians ^ who he fays probably winter about the Latitude of Churchill in 59% this Probability of Mr. Dobbs's is very impro- bable, for how could Scroggs's Indian propofe to travel from Whale-Bone Bay in 65° of Latitude to 59° of dit. and 10° to 15° of Weft Longitude in three or four Days Time, and all along from the Eaft Main. As far sls Finer* s Ifland, Latitude 53<» or 54°. EJkimaux Indians are found yet farther Southward, if that will be of any Ser- vice to him : He has quite a wrong Notion of thefe People, who dread Fire-Arms fo much that 100 will fly at the Sight of a Gun, which they imagine can be difcharged as often as it is prefented : This Account we had from two of them, who were a whole Year atl^r^^ Fort with Governor Kelfey, If every Man, as Mr. Dchhs fays in his next Paragraph, fets down what he obferved; it may be fuppofed I knev/ this Practice, and therefore my tearing Leaves out of, or altering Logs and Journals, as he charges, muft be to my own Confufion j but I want not this Argument ; and therefore fhall acquaint Mr. Dohbs^ that not fou"Men in both Ships knew how to mark the t»5 j ihe Log, and I queftion if there were ten Meii who knew a JVhale from a Sea-Horfe j what Mr. Dohbs farther fays of Whales is tedious and trifling. P. 3 3 . Mr. Dobbs appeals to the Lords of the Admiralty, as to what the Lieutenant and Mailer fa id ? To what purpofe is this Appeal ? Would he refledl upon their Lordfliips, as con- cealing the Evidence from, brought in againfl, mej and fo have it taken as granted, by my not having an Opportunity to know, and an- fwer, it? It is a vile Infinuation! The Evidence was taken doWn in Writing, or how could it be fent to me ? The Charge was brought in by Mr. Dobbs in. Queries j the Witneffes were examined upon them, and both the one and the other are printed in my Vindication^ and there is not a Word like the Evidence. He, Mr. Dobbsy iliys the Mafter gave in • he ob- liges me to repeat it, the Mailer, by his Affi- davit charges it upon Mr. Dobbs ^ as a Fidtion of his own, by denying it ; furely this Gentle- man thinks his CharaSer will bear him out in every thing he advances, however contrary to the Truth, and however difproved 3 or he would not fet his Affirmation in a Cafe, which near- ly concerns him, againfl the folemn Oath of a difinterelled Perfon, of a fair Charadlcr, and ex- pect that the World lliould bi^licve him. I have already anfwercd what he repeats in Page 35, and Part of 36. Mr. Dobbs in this laft Page, takes upon him to fliew that I am evalive, and appeals to tnj £ own :!: ; ■ )■■: I %' ■-> -l^-'- \ pi i llii [ 26 ] own Chart and Log Book. I join ifTue with him, and here will appear a great deal of low Cunning or grofs Ignorance. I fhall convidt him of the one or other, and which ever it is, I am fure it will do no Honour to his Reputa- tion, on which he fo greatly depends. He tells us, and indeed 'tis true, that Cape Fulkrton is but one Degree and an half to the Weft of CapeDobbs^y^X. my Chart makes it three Degrees Weft of Cape Dobhs^, now the Iflands off of that Head-Land, I mean Cape Fidlerton^ fo named by Mr. Scroggs, are lefs than a Degree and half of Longitude to the Weft of Cape Dobbs, and if he meafures the Difference of Longitude between thefe two Head-Lands, that of Dobbs and that within Cape FiiUtrton^ he will jBnd the Difference not fo much above a Degree and half, as the real Difference is un- der it, this is obvious to both Landand Sea-men who know how to draw two Lines Parallel, and to apply that Diftance to the graduated Pa- rallel, which gives the Difference of the Meri- dians in Degrees and Minutes. How does Mr. Dobbs here flatly contradidl the Tru-h, and how little Regard has he to his Reputation, to advance a Fadt, which every one who has my Chart, to which he has appealed, can detect a Falfehood ? This worthy Gentleman alfo re- fers to my Log, as I have faid, the Ship was that Day at Noon in 63°, 56' Latitude, and Longitude from the aforefaid Meridian of Loti- don 88°, 53', which proves that we were 1°, 13', of Longitude to the Weft ward of Cape FulhrtoHj [ 27 ] Tullcrtofiy and 17 Miles to the Southward of that Cape^ which make the Ship bear W. 27** S. from Odi^Q Fidkrton^ diflant 37 Miles : He, with his ufual Art, would have the Ship to the Eaftward of the faid Cape,- and impofes on the Reader by defignedly vary- ing between 6 and 7 Points from the Truth, which iliews a great deal of Modefty after having detected him in an Error of 16 Points in the Tide, in my late Reply. He mufl acknowledge this is owing either to his Ignorance, or to a very unfair Defign ; he can- not impute it to Hurry, as he has had about 9 Month's Time to coniider on it ; I am apt to think as it chrows me 9 or i o Leagues off the Land, it proceeds from fomething worfe than want of Knowledge, for it makes for his Caufe to induce his Readers to believe that we were at that Diftance, when, in Reality, we were within two or three Leagues off the Shore, as may be feen in the Log of the fame Date, by the Depth of Water we were in, which was but 25 Fathoms. P. 37, he tells us in this his nominal new Performance, that he knows how to quarter his Compafs and to reckon his Tides, which, if he is ingenuous, he mufl allow owing to my In- flrudions, in my Reply , if he fays he knows how to correal his Courfe, he mufl acknow- ledge that he is very difingenuous ; for let him work the feveral Courfes from Augiijl the 8 th at Noon to three the next Morning, when we fell into Shoal Water iliort of Cape Fullerton^ E 25 from I i I! : i^ i ! lii Hi [28] from 43 to 25 Fathoms, and he will find o\\x Courfe nearer S. W. than S. W. and by S. Frpni Noon to three that Morning, the 9th Day, the Time the Ship l-iy to, as appears by the Log, file drove 18 or 20 Miles ; her Drift was to the Eaflward of the S. which, if he can correct a Courfe, he has wilfully and unfairly concealed from his Readers, tho' it Is the trueReafon of our Courfe being for the 24 Hours S. 25° W. inftead of near S. W. which every Mariner will com- prehend. In Anfwer to his Charge, P. 38, we were fatisfied, by our Viev/, tliat it was main Land between Cape Dji^^i and Wager River. I know nothing of Scroggs,'^ or Norton's pointing out any Space between Cape Dol^h and Ciape F///~ lerton ; this is a Repetition of the fame Charge. Scroggs lay in Whalebone Bay three or four Days at an Anchor, and Norton went afhore every Time with the Boat, as he was Patron and alio Linguift between Scroggs and the Northern In- dianSy and had there been any Probability or Signs of a Pailage, can it be thought they would have negledted and pointed it out for others tp have the Honour of the Difcovery ? Farther, Norton travelled 1 2 or 15 Miles in Land, and the Indian:, with him, one of whom defired to return to his own Country, as I have faid, which he could not have thought of, had he not been well affured the Land was all conti- guous between that and his home, and between his home and Churchill ; Mr. Dobbs may fay he might v/ait for the Winter, when the Straits were [29] were frozen, but that would be a ridiculoua Suggeftion, as he had neither Snow Shoes nor Winter Cloathihg. I refer to Scrcggs's Journal. As to (P. 39,) his attacking me upon the Council held is only a Proof that he wants to amufe; many Repititions are thrown in tofwell out a huge Pamphlet, and by the Bulk make the World believe he has a Number of Objec- tions both to my Condudl, and my Defence of it : What is it to the Purpofo whether Moor figned it or not ? He is but one, and Forgery Dete5led points out five that figned it. But Moor, he allows, did fign this Council at Mar- ble-Ijland: Now, by this Account of M.v,Dobbs^ with which of thefe two Appellations does he compliment Mr. Moor, Knave or Fool ? He muft fix the Charadler of one or other upon him, if he figned, by my Diredion, without examining and being well fatisfied in what he figned, he mufl be very weak ; if he figned what he believed not right, he was falfe to his Trufl : But the Reader may obferve that Mr. Dobbs has rewarded others, hefides Mr. Moor, by making them Rogues, or Fools, if not both. In the lame Page and iafl Paragraph, he fays, 'tis plain that, in my going Northward to Wager River, I never faw that Coaft 3 but he contra- dids himfelf by faying 'till I faw Cape Dobbs-, now, how could I fee this latter, and fix the Latitude and Longitude which is mentioned in my Log, the 12th of July, without feeing Whale-Bone Point, and feveral Leagues to the Southward of it, as it is hieh bold Land ? Far- ther. ' '' f; 11 ,( :., If m [ 30 ] ther, I have fhewn already that Scroggs lay at Anchor feveral Days at IVhale-Bone Bay, which is Mid-way between Cape Fullcrton and Whale- Bone Point, and as he made fure of that Coafl being contiguous, my Search there would have been ufelefs, belide contrary to my la^rudlions. This is a full Anfwer to what he lays in P. 40, with regard to coafling that Sliorc ; however, as he has taken a great deal of Pains in that Point, about Winds, V/eather, and Courles, and to inftrudt me, as I defired him, to work the Ship better than I did, I fliall take particu- lar Notice of it j he fays that I own it was fine clear Weather wlicn I pafs'd tiie Coaft, out this is an Impofition on his Reader, for I allow it but half the Time, the refl being hazy, with frefh Gales for upwards of 24 Hours, which blew two or three Points upon the Coafl, and this may be fcen by the Log the 8th and 9th of Augujl ; he grants the Coafl lies S. W. Variation allow'd, and tells us a S. E. Wind blows di- rectly upon the Coail, and fiiys indeterminately, that the Wind v/as from E. by S. to N, E.by E. my own Log. Who will examine that i:^\\ the 9th oi Augufl., vviii obfcrve that the Wind was 12 Hours E. by S. and but two } loiu'; N. E. by E. Now E.by S. is bur tliree Points from blow- ing diredlly upon the Shore, which is a BUnider of his, and proves tlmt he either dci'i!!;ns to confound his Reader with and without his Va- riation, as he tliinks it of Service to lii?n, or is himfelf confounded ; for, as I have fald, the Wind was at E. by S. iz Hours in that D,iy's [3t] Logs and the Coaft ii dually there lies E. by N* and W. by S. by Compafs, which fhews the Wind but three Points upon the Land, and not five Points, as he makes it out j but admit it hud been but one Point on the Land, or even along Shore, with d fredi Gale for 24 Hours, when we went with an eafy Sail fivt or fix Knots, every Seaman mufl know there would be no fending the Boat, efpecially expecting thick Wcatlier, as we did, afliore, among Shoals and RocLs, to try the Tides, orfu'ch for Openings; the latter of which had we not been beibre fa- tisfy'd that there really were none, we could better difcover on board o'Ship. This is an exa6t Copy of Mr. Dobbs'^ former Blunder, fet- ting a Point behind a bluff Point, with or with- out Variation, as he thought proper. He fays that the Entry in the great Log is. Saw the Lajid all along the North Shore^ dijlant from it J or ^ Leagues. I heartily thank Mr. Dobbs for this Proof of the Forgery in that Wafte Log-Book ; for there it is faid, as he himfelf has printed it, that we flood off to deepen our Watery now if we were 7 or 8 Leagues off in hazy Weather, 'tis obvious wc could not fee the Land to ftand off it ; but fuppofing we could fee the Land, 'tis evident that at 7 or 8 Leagues Diilance we had no Oc- calion to haul off two Points at once, from W. S. W. to S. W. and ffand that Courfe above an Hour before we had deepen'd our Water above a Fathom, as it appears by both his and my Log at 6 P. M. But the Soundings will de- monftrate I I mi >> |:.!i [ 32 ] monftrate alfo this Forgery of altering 2 and 3 to 7 and 8 Leagues, as it was for Mr. Dohbi% Turn; for we were in 28 Fathom Water, which Mr. Dobbs's Log fet down 38, but i do not infifl upon this 38 being defigned, as it may be an Error of the Prcfj: ; but a farther Demonftration is from the Latitude and Longi- tude ^ve were in the fame Day at Noon j we were 1° 1 3' Longitude to W. of Cape Fullerton^ and 17 Miles to the Southward of tliat Cape, which makes the Ship bear W. 27° S. from Cape Fullerton diflant 37 Miles by this Lati- tude and Longitude which we were in, it will appear from the Chart that we were clofe in Shore, in the Bottom of the Bay, betwixt Cape Fullerton and the Head Land in 63° 20', iind this alfo is proved by the Courfe and our Soundings, in the Log ; we had never a greater Depth of Water than 40 Fathom and fome- times but 24 for 14 Hours. How modeft it is in Mr. Dobbs to reafon upon fuch a glaring Forgery, ho\/ will he get ojff from his infultingly afking me, Hoio I could pre^ tend to know mciin Land in hazy Weather at 7 or 8 Leagues Dijlance, or how 1 could pretend to fay that 1 7uade a narrow Search clofe by the Shore as near as I coidd^ for Sholes and Rocks , He cannot for Shame endeavour to fcreen him- felf by faying my Chart is falfe, for he is pre- cluded by appealing to it himfelf. He takes Notice in P. 41, that I fay, there are feveral Errata, and would iniinuate that 1 allege tliis as an Excufe ; My Words are thefe, «* There (( it (( t( t 33 1 There are indeed fevcral Errata in the printed Log, which may be compared with the MSS. I delivered, one into the Admiralty when I gave in my Journal." 'Tis plain from thele laft Words, that I deligned no Excufe by mentioning the Errata, linee they fhew the Reader how to be convinced of the Truth. He affirms there was no Razure in the great Log, when he left it in the Admiralty : Did he print his own Log from that Book before, or after, he left it in the Admiralty ? If, before, as the Log he has publifhed is printed from the Figures, as they are altered, it follows that the Forgery was, notwithflnnding his Affirmation, previous to his leaving it in the Admiralty. If his printed Log was copied from the great Log, after he left it at the Admiralty, and that at the time he left it there was no Razure or Alter- ation, he lays the F'^r;rery on fome one in that Office *. Mr. Do^h does not attempt to deny the Forgery, 'tis too apparent, he only excufes himfelf J the Alteration is too glaring to be de- nied, and I hope he won't pretend to fay I could have any Hand in what makes fo much againfl: mc j but who could alter the Figures ? or how could they be altered by any Ferfon be- longing to the Admiralty, or by their Privity or Connivance, when this great -f Log was in tha Cuftody of Mr. Cockburne one of the Lords ? F I am ' * Mr. Ramjn of the Admiralty-OfHce, and Mr. Bell of Mr. Jnfper'i Ofiice, Tcujer-hill, examined, and can vouch the Alter- ation of the Figures, \ It wa» fought .nfrcr in that Office Come Days before it was found to be in his Houfe. ^ ^II %a l§ m I Fi ' I '■ [ 34] I am furprized he fhould give me an OppDr- tunity again to mention this Affair, whicli had it made as much againft, as it doss for, his Caufe, he would not have boggled at calling it my Roguery. He has prudently pafs'd over other Alterations and Infertions, which, lince he has dropped them. I will a fecond time take notice of, tho' they may be feen in my Reply -, yet this Pamphlet may poffibly be read by ibme who have not that Book. In P. 1 87 1 have this Note. " Mr. Do/^^s in his Extract, his loth Day at two in the Afternoon, the Mouth of the River Wager bore N. W. ^ N. Dillance 8 or 9 Leagues : In the Wafte, or Log-Book, the Bearing is the fame, but the Diilance is only 6 or 7 Leagues. This additional League or two, is to fet us farther from the Shore, which he taxes me with not having fearched. At four the fame Afternoon, Cape Dohhs^ by the Wafte or Log-Book, bore N. W. J N. but *' in the Extrad Mr. Dobk has made it N. W. 4. W. Diftance 6 Leagues. This Bearing was a Miflake in the copying my Log from the Wafte-Book, and the fame Miflake is in my Journal : Now, Mr. Dohbs found -his to make more for his Purpofe than the true Bearing in the Wafte Log-Book, and therefore copy'd it into his pretended Extrad of the Wafte, or Log-Book, as it fets us feveral Miles far- ther fl'om the Land, and 7 or 8 Miles more to the Northward, to make out that we could not fee Cape Fullerton and Cape Dabbi at one View by Day-light. The fume Day " he (C (( <( Re- fly^ I'll pafs it over, and only obferve that he has dropt what 1 have faid with regard to the Weaknefs of my Ship's Crew in P. 41, 42, as uuanfwerable, tho' he had tlie good Manners to afk if my Defence ^was not a glaring Impudence F Vid.d^iX, m}^ faid i?<^/>/v, and \\vi'Rcmarb^ P* 31* Mr. Dc'bbs fays, P. 42, that the Men not beirg able to get afliore 'till the Evening, tho' they went from the Ship at three o'Clock in the Morning, does not Ihew the Weaknefs of tb;: Men, but that a flrong Current oppofed ther^, great Part of the time, and that it was high Water at 1 2 that Dav : He then afks, was it not the Flood Current prevailed from 6 to 12 ? and as they were to go into the Weflward, which we mull underhand, by his former Ac- count S. W. from whence he brought all his Flood Tides, does it not Ihew that the Fi >' oppofed them from the Weft ? otherwife they might [37] might have got in with the Flood before 12, fo that this Obfervation makes againft him (/.^.me.) I am wiUing to allow him his Time of High Wa- ter, if he looked into the Log-Book, Augu/i 1 2 and 13, from three in the Morning 'till four in the Afternoon w hen we anchored, we were work- ing up to the Illand in the Wind's Eye, which was N. E. and E. N. E. as tlie Illand bore off us, as appears by the Log in thefe Words, j4t 12 the Middle of Brook Cobham IJlandy bore N. £. ^v £. 4 or 5 League Sy continued working up towards it\ If tlie Middle of the Illand, which was j Leagues long, bore N. E. by E, the E. End, at that little Diftance, muft bear E, or E. by N. fb that here Mr. Dobbs has prov'd, as he did the Tide before at the E. End off Marble-IJlandy that the Tide comes from the E. for which 1 refer to his own printed Log : Now, 'tis evident that his W. or S. Weflern Tide he has cunningly demonflrated comes from the Eaftward. ^ . , f.t^ What follov/s this, is nothing to the Purpofe ; his Tides will be anivvcrcd in the Sequel, and as to the Gunner's Drau . . .»-••■ * But fince he is got again to theCfixr, I iliall cbfcrve, which I >vould not before, that the I ieut(.'nan^ fay:, the Mtn were taking ofF the Bears vikin, wlien he was at ihc Cs-x:e : Now every Man on board knows not a?i Inch of the liears Skin wai rakcn off 'till it wa'j brought on bonrd, where i: was flav'ci. le [ 39 ] ii^xt Paragi'aph is nothing but a Repetition, and fiilly anfwered. P. 47, he fays, I never yet faid that I try'd the Tide at Mill-IJks ; 'tis true, but I try'd it at the Frozen Strmts^ which was fufficient. As to the publifliing of our Letters, and whether he has aded hke a Man of Honour, I reft it upon what has been already faid on either Side, and leave it to the Judgment of the Public. What regards the Company, P. 48, does no way concern me, if the Company does not think him worth their Notice it would be im- pertinent in me to defend their Charter 5 but ril venture to fay this, that when a PalTage is found by the N. W. out of Hudfon'' s-Bay to the Weftern Jlmer.ican Ocean, that they will pre- vent all the Merchants in Kngland petitioning againft their Charter by freely giving it up. This I don't fay from Mr. Dobh having, in a Man- ner,*made me a Member in the Hudfon' s-Bay Company, but from my own Experience, when the Government fent me upon the Search of a PaiTage, which I again repeat is not to be foun'i as far as I went, and that was as far as I could go or fend, for Land, Ice, and Water-Falls, and from the hiipradticability of getting thro' fucli a PaiTage, if any one can pufli farther, and dif- cover an Opening between the two Seas. The following Paragraph, in the lame Page and Part of 49, is only a tedious Repetition of what is nothing at all to the main Queftion, and put in only to fwell his Book : What does the . V ' f .1 1-'. \ m ll III mi m m [ 40 J the Public care whetlier I did or did not en- courage him ? and what is it to my having dif- £Qvered or concealed the PnfJ'age ^ and how does it tend to detedl my Roguery ? The rell of P. 49 is trifling. " ■*" P. 52, he afks howl know that it is the Main l^eyond fhofe Illands, among which IVhak'Cove lies ; I fay ti'om the Infpcdtion of Scroggs's and Kelfcf\) Journals I know it^ alfo from Norton's landing about Whale-Cove^ and travelling inland to the Northern Indians Coun- try, and from thence to Churchill again ; by the two Northern Indians that I fat afliore, and who haslince been at Churchill, and were exa* mined by Governor Jpam. They faw no Straits nor Rivers to prevent their travelling, from 63** to their own home, and from thence to Churchill. In Anfwcr to his Queilion, Hoiv I could affirm that all was lined with Ice ivithin Marble-- illand ? 1 iav, that outward bound, I frood' ciofe in with the "W. End of Marble-ljland, ^vliich i^ not above 2 or ^ Leagues from the ?vlain, with foine Thoughts of anchoring, but I found fo great a Swell in the Road that I did not think it proptr, ih iluit T could eahly fee the Shores of the Main lined with Ice within the Illands : Mr. Moor confirms my defigning to anclior, by his Anfwcr to Query the 8th," to the Lords of tlie Admlrultv, in Mr. Dobhs's Kt marks ^ P. 166 ; and the Log fhews we had ii'edi Gales Eallerly, from four in the Morning to two in the Afternoon blowing along Shore/ or [ 41 ] or without the Land occafioned a great Swell, tho' Mr. Moor is pleafed to fay in nis AiiAver to the above Query, that it was quite fmooth. I cannot imagine what Mr. Dobbs means by my going 'willfully into Bays^ and childifhly afking how I fhould be afraid of being inclofed in Ice without I went into Bays filled with Iflands of Ice; does he ivillfully forget what were my Inflrudtions ? Was I not by them to meet the Flood-Tides, let them come from any of the 26 Points, before-mentioned in my Reply ? And how could I poliibly know whether a Bay was an Entrance of a Paflage, or not, before I had fearched it ? I (hall take the Liberty to inform him that there are there no Iflands of Ice, but all Ledges, Cakes, and Rands : Had I continu'd a Fortnight longer in Wager River, Repulfe-Bay^ the NewStraitSy or any Way to the North- ward of 65°, and the Wind had blown from the Southern Quarter, (on Account of the Narrownefs of the above Places,) the Quan- tity of old Ice that was then remaining would have been blown in upon, and faflening toge- ther, frozen us up, as was the Cafe when we were oppofite to Cape Dobbs on the S. Shore. This appears by the Log, where we were jamm'd up in Ice for 1 o Leagues to Windward of us 5 fee July the 9th, loth, and nth. He fays, in the lame Paragraph, that it will thaw in the Day as much as it freezes in the Nigjit. This I allow may be at Albany or Moofe River, in the Latitude of 51° or 52^ but this is not fo, even at Churchiliy and much lefs to the Northward . ♦M.J. ' G 0* i ^t <\ i Ill ' sill m ,irt« <( cc C( L 42 ] of 65° or 65°: In mentioning what I have fiiid in regard to the handling a Sail, &c. Mr. Dcbh again has Rccourfe to the Difmgenuity, he was before deteded of, in concealing or dropping part of what I faid, wherefore I beg Leave to tranfcribe the Anfwer before given him, P. 69 of my Reply : " Now fuppofing " there was another Strait on the Weftern Coafl of Hudfon's-Bayy or between Latitude 61° and 63°, and that this Strait W-4S about as long and as wide as that. . - r » t>7 ' "In die firfl Place, there could be no enter- " ing it before the latter End of Aiiguji for Ice> whether from England^ or from your Winter- ing-Place in the Bay, for tho' we got out of Cmrchill River by the 1 it of '^uly lall Year, ^ifc. / afterwards, in P. 44, fay^ Now, all this well weighed, what Chance have Ships for pafling fuch a Strait as we havt fuppofed f " But grant there was no Ice to prevent a Ship's pafling, about the latter End oiAuguJi^ yet, at that Seafon, :he Winter begins to fet in here, with hard Gales, and fuch Quanti- ties of drifting Snow, that it is out of all human Power to handle a Sail, or keep the Deck : This Quotation, which is vifibly a Suppofition Mr. Dobbs makes the Ground of no lefs than 15 Faliities, Evafions, and Inco- herences in the Compafs of 58 Lines. ^V.^, . I hope, after this Proof of Mr. Dobbs's re- markable Modefty, he will be more careful how he brings the Charge of Impudence againft Uich as hereafter mav prefume to contradict << i "''> gives InJtrudions to hk r r, ^'"^^"^ to, or him ? Whether fthL^"-^"' *° "^''^ it &'- Ani-wer w,3 d^tn .p'by hL Co' ""rf "'^^'"'' ^^onclufion from Hi^nT ^ ^ V^unfel, and a ^ n i,om theiKe made that it was ikJfb,.. ' and C5S] and to ferve a Turn ? WitnelTes examined upon Interrogatories, do they draw up thofe Interro- gatories? or do they even know what they will be, when they appear to anfwer to them upon Oath ? I queftion whether one Affidavit in a thoufand, that are fworn before the Mailers in Chancery is drawn up by the Deponents, if they are not fworn by one who is himfelf a Lawyer ; and I appeal to all of that learned Pro- fellion, whether this is Fad or not ? I am a Seaman, confequently not fuppofed to under- Hand Forms ; the Deponents for me were like- wife Seamen, and poflibly knew as little of them as I did ; wherefore, there was a Neceflity of our applying to fome body who did underftand the Manner of drawing Affidavits to write them for us ; but our Ignorance in this Point, which is immaterial, is nothing at all to our knowing whether we fwear Truth or not j in a Word, this cavilling about Forms is a poor and mean affeded Ignorance of Mr. Dobbs^ who cannot but know better, and who, I am certain, if ever he was obliged to make Affidavit, fwore to what was drawn up for him by fome Law- yer, after having well examined, and poffibly often alter'd, the Draught to which he was to fwear ; but this is not the only dirty Piece of Ma- nagement he has been guilty of : Upon the To^ pic of the India?is^ he has convinced the World, by new Falfiiications, that he is juftly charged with having publifhed a Forgery, which I plainly dete&ed in a late Pamphlet ; for he has here appealed to the Log and Journal, and afks ;i;7 how ■f i [ 56 ] liow could Guy 6e two Nights injijore I'^'th the Indians and J a? them manage their Boat witl.i Sails and Oars ? He lliy^, Atiguft the 1 3 th, at 3 A. M. the Lieutenant was ordered afliore with the two Indians^ by the Log and Journal this appears J I fay no, it was Augitfi the 12th, as appears by the Log and Journals 3 the Lieute- nant, he lays, returned tlie 14th at two in the Morning, and I font the Boat afhore with Guy at live the fame Morning : I fay no, again, I fcnt the Boat afliore at five, the 13th, in the Morning, as appears by the Log and Journals ; now the Words in the Log are thefe, Friday^ Augufl the i^th^ at 5 1 jent the Majier, and Jlx oar'd Boat apore for Water ^ alfo the Tender's Boat for Water, Guy went in one of thefe Boats in Company with the Mafter, and did not return *till 7 in the Evening on the 15th, as ap- pears by the Logs and Journals j even h'" Friend the Lieutenant's Journal proves it, conlequently Guy was gone 3 8 Hours, which was by Miltakc printed 48 : But to come to the Point where he thinks he has clinched me, the Depofition is printed as follows, This Deponent farther maketh Oath^ that he was two Nights afiore upon Brook-Cobham, or Marble-Ifland, with the Indians, and faw them work the Boat with Sails and OarSi &c. The Conjunction and being left out by the Carelefsnefs of my Amanuenlis, or the Prefs, has given Mr. Dohlfs this Straw to catch at 5 it fhould have been, ajhore at Brook- Cobham, or Marble-Ifland, and with the In- dians. I acknowledge the Miftake, but to pre^ vent )ore \the lils left or to >k. In- re^ nit [57] vent Mr. Dobbs's crying out it was wilful, or that what I now fay is evalive, an irreiragablc Proof that it is notfo, is this : Mr. Smithy Com- mander of the Sloop in the Hudfon' s-Bay Com- pany's Service, at Churchill^ and all who have come from thence this Year, and who are now in Town, and may be eafily found upon En- quiry, have declared that they liave fben thefe very Ltdians whom I treated fo barbaroufly in the Summer-time of 1743 and 1744, both in a good State of Health, and very well latisticd with their Treatment from me, and that thev were at the Fadtory at the aforefaid times ; but it is polTible Mr. Dobbs, tho' every body elfe may, will not admit this Evidence, any more than he does that of Governor Ijharn^ Letters, with regard to thefe Indians^ who were alfo i^^w by Mx. Butler in the Year 1743, or Capt. SpttrelN Evidence about the Whales fccn at Cape Dtggs, for thefe are all Hudfon's^ Bay People, who are, or have been, in the Company's Service, confequently mufl lofe all Credit : Tho' I am of Opinion, that would be no Reafon in a Court of Judicatory to reject their Evidence ; for hitherto I never heard the being employ'd in that Service made a Man equally fcandalous with him who has undergone an infamous Pnnifliment : Let this be an An- fwer once for all, with regard to thefe hidinns^ upon whom he here fpends a Page or tvv o moie. What he fays as to Governor Ijham is a fcveie himfeif. i?atyr upon ■^%ifi. •>^v ^1* ,./Vk.tM' #:^' «^:V"«». f?f,?f?^ jW 4Befl ore Wi p^ 'm m- r.lij ' <( (C C( (C cc C( It i( [ 58] Before I here part from the worthy Mr. DobbSy who makes his Witneli'es Evidence all and the only lit to be believed, I Ihall give my Reader the Opinion of four Men, who made the Voy- age on board the Furnace ^ of one pf his Wit- nefles, (thcfe Men are y. DonalfoUy W. Iverfon^ G. Mcnro, Rob. Hill) in Anfvver to the Query, Whether I ever threatened the Surgeon for being too intimate with the Indians^ to come at a Knowledge of a Pailiige ; or whether the Surgeon underftood any thing thofe hdiam faid ; or whether they ever heard the Lin- guift ever fpeak of the Indians knowing of a Faffage, or a . /ay to a Copper-Mine, and 1 would not hear them ; or whether any ** fuch thing was ever mentioned on board the " Ship in the Voyage home, or after we came *' hume, before they law or heard of my Book." They anfwered as follows, We 'very well re- member that Capi, Middleton 7iever threatened the Surzeon but for Nededl of his Duty, ichieh lae/l mijht be done ; and if he had his Due he ':^'ouJd be hanj,;ed /ike a Dn from ihe growing of the Line, if (he's meeting the Tide the Line will grow out a-head, if wirh th-w 'I'ide it will g-row a-flern, it' ii: fets to Wind- ward the Ship will drive over it, and from it if | to i is of lives rom the •irh kid- if [ 63] ^:> Leeward : As vvc keep 150 or 200 Fathoms of Line always ready upon Deck, coil'd in a Tub with deep-fea-Lead from 28 to 40 /<^. to iound and try the Tides, or Currents, under the abovs-m.entioned Depths, wc make Ufe of the Leads, and when above thofe Depths, or out of Soundings, we make Ufe of a Current Log : Now thefe above-mentioned Lines are mark'd every i\\c Fathoms, and by turning a half Mi- nute-'GjaiSj while the Stray-Line runs out, we get the Strength of the Tide, or Current, and by the Polition of the Lines growing we learn tlie Diredion ; fometimes we faften a iive Gal- lon Cagg, which we have ready flung for that Purpoie i whQii the Lead is at the Ground, or at a convenient Depth, w^hen out of Soundings; and thus get the Diredions more accurately. Guy was the hdl Seaman on board the Difco- ve/y, he was alfo Moors (^arter-Mafter, and it was his Bullnefs, in his Watch, to found, and as one ot Mr. Afcor's Mates was hclplcfs, from Churchill all tha Wyy home, he was obliged to heave the Log and Lead, and to mark down the Bearings of the Lands, cjV. and, therefore, could not but obferve which was ebb, arjd which was flood, and as he knew with what Tide he caine out of Wager River, and kept a Jour-r nal, 'tis evident he has jiot fworn to things above and beyond his Knowledge, for he knew his Bunnefs, and fwore from Experience ; and iurely what he himfelf ol'»ferved cannot be termed beyond liis Knowledge. !:! ■:mrf. il [ 64 ] It is here obfervable how every individual Man differs from himfelf when Mr. Dobbs hopes or defpairs of gaining him over to his Side 5 he laments, in P. 21 of his Remarks^ the Abfence of this Guy^ Hodgfon the Carpenter, and Axx the Gunner, and the Man who ilaid with the Boat at the Frozen Straits, whofe Name is Satcbell; his Words are thefe^ / reckon it my Misfortune that they (i e. my Men) were dif- perfcd ; the Majier was in Holland, the Carpen- ter gone no body knew where, who was a material Evidence ; (I fuppofe Mr. Dobbs means a Wit- nefs, and that his Evidence was material) Axx the Gunner was at Liverpool, who was wrote to (he means, no doubt, written to) and fent his Anfwer and Draught to a Lord of the Admiralty, which is full againfi his (i. e. my) Frozen Straits, and his (i. e. my) 'Tide and Whales coming thro^ it J thofc who ftayd with the Boat were not to be bad, nor ( I fuppofe he means or, becaufe here are two Negatives) the Man who was with the Mafter above the high Bluff-, thefc were the mofl material as to the chif^ Facls. Now *■- •- As Mr. Dobbs terms this a Misfortune, lie doubtlefs allowed their Evidence was valid, but now that thefe Men are returned from their refpedive Voyages, and every individual Man has fworn to the contrary of what Mr. Dobbs has advanced, as to what is mofl material to the chief FaSis ; and Axx the Gunner has irrefra- gably proved the Anfwer and Draught, with which Mr. Dobbs triumphs fo much, to be an infamous [ 6s ] infamous, deliberate, wilful Forgery ; they are, one and all, except Safcbell, who has efcaped the Venom of his Pen, a Pack of perjured Villains, unworthy of all Credit : Would Mr. Doifh venture to advance as much againft them in a Court of Juflice ? No ; he very well knows he would be hooted at for his Ignorance, to imagine fuch x^flertions could carry any Weight : And pray what extraordinary Proofs of his own Probity has he given, that the World fhould believe whatever he pleafes to advance of Men, fome of whom live in Reputation, and none of whom had ever any Blemifh upon their Character! Mr. Dolfh fays, none on board the Difcovery fpoke with any one on board the Furnace ; I take the Liberty to deny this : I fpoke with the Difcovery the 6th of Auguft, before I made Sail, after lying to, off the Beach-Point for the Tender, when I faw Cape Hope, and no Land was in Sight to N.Weftward of that Cape, and it was then and there I ordered Mr. Moor to give his Men Strong-Beer, asG//)' has truly fworn ; but that I fpoke to the Difcovery again between JVa^ ger River and Marbk-IJland, or Brook-Cohham^ I refer to the 7th Day of Aiigiijl in Rcpiilfe-Bay^ Moor's Journal, where he has thefe Words, At two P. M. came up 'ivith the Furnace, Jyi?ig to and trying the Tides, but coidd find neither Ebb nor Flood to run, &c. Capt. Middleton named this Repulff Bay, ^c. At \ i Capt. Middleton went " "* '"' "^ ' ajbore iip^ of by N. from us, I am no^ furprized that Mr I '' I) ' M [mi i H K Dobbs [66] Dobbs has advanced a Falfity, for I have prov'd him guilty of many ; but I own I am not a liltle fo at his advancing fuch as are to be de- tedted by the Evidence of his own WitnelTes, as in the prefent Cafe by Mr. Moor's Journal. Mr, Dobbs tell us, that upon Capt. Moor*$ reading to Guy the Affidavit he made, and en- quiring how he could fwear to fuch Fads, he, the faid Guy, anfwered, that the Captain had been kind to him in learning (I fuppofe he means teaching) him fome Rules of Navigation ; and that he (/, e,l) told him when he (i.e. 1) read the Affidavit to him, he was only to fwear to the beft of his Knowledge ; and proceeds with a great deal more Invention of Riplings, Illands, &c, evidently beyond Gufs Knowledge, and diametrically contrary to Truth. Notwithfland- ing we have Mr. Moor's Word for all this Con^ verfatton, no other Evidence is offered to fup- "port it : But that Moor, Thotnpfo?!, and Wygafe tampered with this Guy, and Moor offered him Preterment if he would deny his Affidavit, is a Truth which I can fupport by the Evidence of Guys Wife, from whofe Mouth I had it. But I ought to overlook Corruption and Falfehood when made life of in fo laudable an Endeavour as the Search of Truth, lince the fevere Cato, to fave the Commormealth, was prevailed upon to allow of BnA/ J. ^ Page nt Mr. tiobbs fays, I oppofe with all my Mignt, andpuih all I can, to prevent a fe- . cond Attempt, iji which his Evidence (as he calls his Witnelies) are dcfirous and prcffing to have the r67] the Fadls brought to a fair IfTue by another Trial, and they are defirous of venturing their Lives as vt^ell as Characters upon a fecond Trial ; then the Public may judge vvho is moil: afraid of having thefe dark Doings brought to Light ; What Purpofe, fays this worthy Gentleman, would it ferve if I bribed and corrupted Evi- dence to give a falfe Account, to have all my corrupt Proceedings brought to Light by the next Voyage. ' ■''"'■ In Anfwer to this, I fay it is a very round Aflertion, and what Mr. Dobbs cannot fupport by any thing I have faid, done, or written, without he will call the Vindication of my own Charadler, which he has without Grounds bafely attacked, a flrenuousOppofition to a new Attempt. I have faid, and do again fay, that I ufed my utmofl Endeavour to difcover a Paflage, and have ftridtly complied with my Inftrudtions : I am, in my Confcience, fatisfy'd that none is to be found 3 and, fuppoling there was an Opening between the two Seas, we may rationally conclude from the Intenfenefs of the Cold, and the Shortnefs of Time it might be open, which could not be above a Fortnight in a Year, re would be impafiable on Account of Ice : But let us fuppofe it was only full of driving Ice all the Year round, and was as pallible as Hudfon's-Strnits and Bay in the proper Seafon ; coniidering the Difficulty of failing and working among floating Ice, thro' which little Way can be made, and no Poffibility of anchoring, or any other Way of Hopping your Ship, but by grap- K 2 pling !;^ 4 [ 68 ] pllng to the Ice, and even then you drive with it as the Wind happens to be, and mud, confe- fequently, lofe as much by a contrary, as you gain by a fair. Wind : How, under thefe Diffi- culties, is it pofhble for a Ship to get thro' a Paflage 500 Leagues in Length, as James and all the Charts (except Mr. Dobbs'% own Pro- jedion, which he knows is ridiculed) make it, betwixt the Parallels of 61° and 66° ? " :"'i^^ If his WitnefTes are delirous of rifquing their Lives they have attained to more Courage than when they were in the Voyage with me, for then the Lieutenant would have given a thoufand Pounds to have been fafe at home, and the other two were overjoy *d at their Return: How- ever, I alTure Mr. Dobbs^ I will not diffuade them, but, on the contrary, fliould advife them to rifque their Characters, that, if polTible, they might have the Advantage to lofe them, which would (in my Opinion) be great Gain. When Mr. Dobbs alks to what Purpofe it would ferve him to bribe People to have all his corrupt Proceedings brought to Light by ano- ther Voyage, I mufi: beg leave to fay 'tis art- fully diverting the Attention of his Reader from the Point in Queftion. He knows, as well as I do, there is no fuch thing as a navigable Paflage out of Htidfon' S'Bay to the Weilern Atnerican Ocean, for Reafons already given ; and he is not afraid of having his corrupted Proceedings brought to Light ; the Management of his fe- cond Attempt will be in his, and a few of his Aflbciates, Hands, and under their Direction, J. and a q t [ 69 ] and they may be ordered, and perhaps obfe- quious enough, to fay, that they had found a Paflage, tho' they know otherwifCy as well as I was dcfired to fay by his Friend Mr. Smith, that there was a Pqffibility of one , even tho' I thought otherwife. \ Ship may be detached to England^ with this welcome News, and ordered to return with Provilions and frefti Goods for Trade, and thus from Year to Year they may progrejjivelyy to ufe his own Word, carry on and enlarge their clandeftine Trade by amuling the Public, 'till they have ruined or difTolved the Company : From this, I fay, which is no conjedural * Charge, he would avert the Attention of his Readers, he is under no Apprehenfion of a Difcovery ; he has read Virgil, and knows the Power of Gold, f ,.M I ^id non Mortalia peSiora cogis Auri facra fames I fay this is no conjedlural Charge, for I have much to the fame Purpofe under his own Hand in his Letter, dated 'Dublin, Nov. 19, I742. Mr. Dobbs having defired my Anfwer to fome Queries and Objedlions, he fays, Thefe were the chief things I would have your Opinion upon : " But as, upon the whole, I apprehend it would be in vain to pufh it (i.e. the Search) any farther that Way ; I think the only fafe Way now is by the Rivers of Nelfon or Churchill, by going up to their End, from ** thence, defcending fuch Rivers as fall from Z. thence (C (C (( i-./ ii '■ ^' I jfhall be glad to have your Thoughts upon this, and what Materials you think you could furnifh towards it ; and if we can pre- pare a reafonable Plan, I (hall go over and aU my Friends. . It ,i>2»*iv!l pufli •-iir t Did/in, Decenittr 14, 1742. *i. ■l~i'4i •>.\'i Tlie ■ \ HI ISA !U W. t "if [ 74] ♦ The reft of the Letter is upon other Bufi- ncfs : I fhould not have reprinted Part of thefe two, if it had not been for the Satisfadtion of fuch Readers as may not have feen the foregoing Parts of this Controverl'y -, but, I think, they plainly evince after all the Stir Mr. Dohlfs has made to get a Petition ligned by a Number of Merchants, and prefented to Parliament, for tlie Legillature to grant a Premium to fuch Perfon or Perfons as (hall make a Difcovery of a N. W. Paffage to the Weflern American Ocean, that fuch a Difcovery has not the Icaft Place in his Thoughts. As to all Page yj^ it is fhamefully flying, ac- cording to Cuftom whenever he is pinched, to Occurrences being mai'ked dov^n by my Di- redion, or by myfelf, as here he has no other Way of coming off from the Tide flowing 3 Knots from the Eaftward, as he himfelf has printed it in his own Log, than by faying, to take his own Words, ** This Obfervation was made at 8 at Night, when, 7J0 doubt, the Captain made the Trial, confequently the Entry was made, he being upon Deck ; fo that, as in all other Inftances of the Tides, it was fet down by the Captain's Diredlions, £s?c" As to wliat he fays about his half Tide 'tis proved falfe by theLieutenant's being aftiore, and obferving the Tides flowing the next Night when they killed the Bear at Brqok-Cobham : Indeed, there is no fuch thing as a half Tide ia any Part oi Hudfm' s-Bay where I hayel>een» (< it (( (( (( 4( -lis* f Ml ?;;ib Mn [75] Mr, Dohhs fays P. 78, that he has not adkd difingenuoufly, as I charged him in my Rcpl\\ P. 105, and that Keifcy made only ciirlbry Ola- ' fcrvations at Sea, and (o he might miftiike, or do it dcfignedly, as he was in the Compiiny's Secret : This is, as Mr. Topllft fays in his Ad- vertifement, a Vero-Dobbfical Aflertion, and di- redtly contraiy to Kelfef^ Journal ; he lays, the Tide comes ftrong from the N. E. and calls it a foaking Tide, and that it flows Neap and Spring Tides from 12 to 1 7 Foot ; and thus Mr. ibobbi has printed it in his Remarks, P. 116. And -this he afTerts a curfory Ohfervation at Sea contrary to what he has printed, and contrary to Reafon : How can thefe be curfory Obfervations, when he muft have been in Har- bour, or Harbours, near the above Latitude for at leail i ^ Days to obfervc'the Neap and Spring Tides. His Refledion upon the Company and their Secrets, I think, he ought to be tired of, by his pften Repetition. What regards the Courfe of the Tides, mentioned in the ilime Page, has been anfwered over and over, and his Igno- rance, or Difingenuity, every time evinced. As to Scroggs being fet on the E. Coafl, and the Tide coming from the Weflward, and not from the N. as Mr. Dobbs fays, he now affirms in the lame Page, it cannot be: I Ihall an- fwer liim by this Query, Does N. and S. cut E. and W. at Right Angles ? The Dirt he flings in P. 79 I defpife. ,^ Page 80 he repeats what I faid, tliat at Sea- horfc Point, where it flowed 23 Foot, W;4b near L 2 the !^ ( H n,l •»;i s '' '.■t«8 m ■■t -■t^i Hi sA-:, Yw •^ [ 76 ] the Meridian of €arv\s S^van's-Ne/I : yet was a great deal, to the Northward, Now Mr. l)(?jtA«t?j: mull know that there are two Diredions of the Tide out of Hndfon'S'-Stniits mto the Bay, 00 cafioned by the large lilands of SciM?uryy Not- tingham^ mid Mill- I/7es, which divicfe the Tide ; and that Tide which mm between. Cape WaU Jingkam and the aforefaid Illands, runs away clofe by tiie N. End of Manfets lihmh^ and from thence by Carfs Swam-Neft^ vCipe South- amftony and over to the Wejl-^Maln^ where at Churchill and Ih'k-Fort, it flows from 12 to 1 6 Foot : The other vCouri'c of the Tide, being occafioned by the aforelaid lilands nuns be- tween them and the North-Mmn away to the fhyzen Sfralts ; and this Fox lias proved, who fays that the S. E. Tide fbliowed hirn thro* Hua/on'sr'Sif'mtSy as ixir as Lord fFejion's PorU land. The .Dufl he afterwards throws about Brljtol-Cbcmnel^ and near the Soam is below Notice : 'Tis futHcient that I have iliewn tjiat Cary's Swivfs-Nr/i is in the direct Courfe of the Tides, tho' Mr. DrMs has tlie Modefiy to fay it; is not, and that the Tide is there exoanded <^i\d ipent, which is impofing on the Under- ilandijip; of Im Readers, and advancing what every Man, who knows bow to look upon a Map, can confute j for irdl.ead of being ex- panded it is contradbed and confined between jVfe?/i:7's llbnd and Carfs Sii^afi's-Nf/h and 'tis e\id::nt it cannot be fpent iince it ilows from 12 to 16 Foot, as I have faid at Churchill Ri- ver I the [ 77 ] ver and Tor k- Fort, at Icafl loo Leagues Di- ftance from Carfs Swan' s-NeJI . What Mr. /JrvMr, P. 8i, %s of Capt.;;^^?m*s failing N. of Cape Comfort^ and his finding dirty Ice, Is nothing at all to the Fiirj.x)fe, for this dirty Ice is found all over the Straits and BayvaDd all Ice tliat is frozen upon f^at Shores, or in i'^^ndy\ or oozy Bays^ where it freezes to the • Ground, when overfet and inverted, appears dirty. This may be (ten both in Straits and Bays *. Sometimes we fail thro' it for 20, 30, and 50 Leagues together. ■'••'' ' ' '' '■• I have not Fox now by me,, but I well re- member bis anchoring in or near 66**, 40', not far from the E. End of my Frozen-Straits -, that he liad not been long at an Anchor before the Tide came on fo very fi.rong that hk Anchor ftarted, and the Ship drove a coniidcrablc WavK^fore her Anchor t^iok 22:^.,% ami when ine brought lip ilie had like to have hauled t/^c Cable out End for FjiJ. It wa?^ upon this Ac- count that I mentioned Fox's liaving found (l:rong "*' Tides the fkrthell he went, and thefe came from the S. E. and ran three Miles and a half in an Hour, near my Frozni- Sir aits: But Mr. Dcbhs finding this would not be of Service to him, drops Fox, and lays hold on JameSy in this Place, hoping fome Ailiilance iiom his dirty Ice, which I have ihewn is no- thing to the Purpofc, tho' he thought it fome- thing material. Capt. Jar/ies was not (b far as fMv Frczm-Straits by near 40 Leagues. But how * Pj/it corroborates this. iti mi U ! * n f C 78 ] how comes it that Mr. DoMs fhould in this Par- ticular give James Credit, fince he has already faid that all his Accounts are only to intimidate ? but if he would fpeak out, he would acknow- ledge that they all made againft him. In Mr. Dobh'% own Lettef, dated from Lif- hurn^ 05iober 20, 1742, he fays, to take his own Words, " This would make me incline to think, if it be from any ealierly Tide, it fhould be from that in Cumberland Inlet, where at Cumberland Ifles, 60 Leagues from the Entrance, in about 66°, it flov/ed 4 or 5 Fatljoms by £)^'u/5's Account, and he faid a S. W. by W. Moon made High-Water, but it was there check'd by another Tide, which came from the S. W. But to this there is another Difficulty from Fox^ who found Lord/Z^y/o^'s Portland in 66°, 47', which muft have been betwixt your New-Strait , which was in that Latitude and Cumberland Ifles ; and he fays the South-Eaflern Tide followed him fo far from Hudfon's-Strait." But this I exped: Mr. Dobbs wiil fay is all Hearfay : Now, I have heard a Lawyer 4y, that if a Man will take an Advantdpc iiader a Will it {liall be entirely, and not partially : By tlic lame Parity of Reafon, if Mr. Dcbbs will make \J{q of Fox, Scrcggs, yameSy or any other, he mufr abide by their whole Accounts, and not (ingle out fuch Parts as he thinks maymake for his Purpofc, when hehas ilripped thcni of all Connexion with what went before, or with whatfollowb : But Mr. Dobbs ^ in- deed. goe"> entirely u'oon Hcarlay,e>'ceptw]iathe has [79] has invented himfclf, for what dfe is his build- ing upon Witneffes Evidence, which he knows, in his Coni'cience, is flilfe, and proved lb, not only by Journals, but by feveral Atteftationa and Affidavits of Men of Credit ; even the Journals of two of his credible WitnelTes, con- tradidt what they themfelves, I fear, have cor- ruptly advanced. The reft of tliis Page, and a great Part of P. 82, is a Repetition of what had been fiilly anfwered before. As to what he fays of his never having feen Moor, 'till after he had anfwered the Queries, I believe it poffible j but I can prove his Agents kept a Correfpondence, by Letters, with him, while Moor was in the Country, and that this ho- neft Relation of mine, when I fent him into the Country Queries to be anfwered, like a worthy Man fent them up to Town to Wygate and Thojnpfcn ; and when he, this Mr. Moor^ whor* Mx.Dobhs has dubb'd a Captain, as the BooAJellers make Efquires of their Authors, told me, that if he could have any other Employ he would drop Wygate and Thompfon ; but as I have be- fore faid we (hall come to Mr. Moor in the Se- quel. I allow he knew nothing of the Coun- cil at Cape Frigidy as Mr. Dobbs fays, P. 83. * But to fay Axx the Gunner, and liodgfon the Carpenter, figned it 2XMarble'Ifiand, isaFalfity, and proved io by the Carpenter's Affidavit and Letter. All the reft of P. 83 to 85, is Billings- gate, and Repetition. P. 85 Mr. Dobbs fays he will follow me, and make Obfervations upon the Proof of my Tides, i^ u r [ 80 ] Tides, and I fliall take the Liberty to follow him again, with convincing Proofs in my Hand, to fliew, either his grofs Ignorance, or flagrant Difingeniiity to impofe upon the Public ; thefe are his Words, Wednefday, Auguft 4, at fix at Night 1 was abreafi of the lo'wejl lfia?2dy near the Riveras Mouth j the Tide had fallen a Foot a Day and a half before jull Moon, and as a Weft-Moon made High-Water there, it was High- Water about 5 that Evening, But I fay it was about 4- before fix, by its being fallen but one Foot. I mufl again inform Mr. Dobbs that the Tide does not always flow alike, for the Space of i an Hour, Ibmetimes even a whole Hour, for a Reafon formerly given of .Winds, at a Diflance, confpiring -^r being adverfe. Mr. Dobbs proceeds thus, ylt one A. M, he alleges' (i. e, I) the Flood was try'd, and came from £. and E, by N. Now, 'tis plain, fays he, this which he calls Flood was Ebb Current, near Low-Wa- ter, for he trfd the Current agaiji between 5 and 6, when it was Jirong Flood, ojid had above 4 Foot to fiow at leaf, when he could know it kalf^ a Mile from Shore., iwoj ♦.i^.u; :^v .. pi^^i •^ Here he endeavours, in the mofl difingenuotis and in a very blundering and bare-iaced Manner, to impofe upon his Readers, and treat them as ignorant, for if he did not think them fo he would never have thusgrolly inverted theCour'e and Direction of the Tides, by faying as ^c does. Now 'tis plain this he calls Flood was the Ebb Current near Low-Water, He allows it was High- Water about 5 that Evening, and if >NT fb. ^>! *W [ 8/ ] lb, he muft aMb agree it was Low -Water a Iit-» tie after 1 1 the Tame Evening, allowing fix Hours 12' for one Tide; this fix Hours 12' added to five Hours 45', which is the time that I iay it was High- Water in the Mouth of Wa- ger River, tlic Sum will give Low- Water at I I Hours ^'j\ or 12 that Night : Is it not then vifible that it niuft be Flood at one o'Clock in the Morning ? How could both the Ebb and Flood come from the fame Point, *vi%, from the E. and E. by N. as he would have his Readers think ? Or how fhould we have rowed or towed fi-om two Leagues within the Mouth of Wager River to four Leagues without, againfl an Ebb from the Eaftward, at 1 2 at Night ? * In the fame Paragraph he again infults the Underftanding of his Readers by faying we try'd the Tide between 5 and 6, when it was ftrong Flood, and had above 4 Foot to flow at leaft, tho' I fay about 3 or 4 Foot to flow ; Now he hopes it will be thought that it was on the fame Morning, but, indeed, it wii^ the Morning following^ on the 5th Day, which are ^o Hours later, and as every Hour of Time makes the Tide two Minutes later, 30 Hours df Time gives one Hf)ur later in the Tide, which made it High-Water near 7 o'Clock, agreeable to what we obferved the 5th in the Morning be- tween 5 and 6 or -' pall 5, which was lalt Quarter Flood, when we were ^ a Mile from the Beach in 25 Fathoms Water, and had 3 or ii 4 Foot * Vide Log and journa! ior the Bearings and Dvftance of Lands and Tiles^ ■it*S l\ :l" 'AM ft :| li [82] 4 Foot to flow, inftead of above 4 Foot, at Icaft. " . ■> .'•: Again Mr. Dol?l?s fays Friday^ -^^igHp^ 6, ac- cording to his (i, e, my ) own Account between 5 and 6 in the Morning, which he (i» e.\) calls ^['hurfday 5th, as he (i. e. I) ends his Day at 12 at Noon : Surprizing ! that Mr. Dobbsy famous for his delejlial Obfervations at Caftle- Dobbsy fhould make a Miftake of two Days in Point of Time, as he here does, if it is not willfully done to blind his Readers, as I appre- hend it mufl have been ; fince he can't be ig- norant that all Aflronomical Accounts com- mence and end the Day from the Sun's tranfit- ing the Meridian one Day, and coming to the fame the next. Had he reckoned according to the common Computation he fhould have gone back a Day. and called 'Thurfday the 5th Wed^ fitjday the 4th, as that really was which he makes Friday the 6th, and it might have help'd him a little in his Way of ftumbling, flounder- ing, jO!d blundering about his Tides. In me fame Paragraph he fays, tho' I could not allow the IJeutciiant, who went much nearer the Shore after tvvo that Day in the Boat, to fee what it had ebb'd on the Shore, yet at half a Miles Diflance I could find it had 3 or 4 Foot to flow from the Ship, and fix High- Water at 7 o'clock. I muft tell Mr. Dobbs we could fee fix times as far from the Ship as they could from the Boat, the Obfervers Eye on Ship-board is 20 Foot above the Surface, and the Water as fmooth as in the Wet-Dock, which wJ col to I bel a ab< (t ii a ^^ it (< tc ii it it t ^3 J which Is In all Seas where Ice is j and at two Miles diftant, with GlalTes I had on board, I could fee how much the Water had to flow up to the Ice, that was left at High- Water Mark, better than thofe in the Boat could fee without a Giafs, where their Eye was not above 4 Foot above the Surface. At the Bottom of P. 85 IVIr , Dodh fays, " It ma.yhe reaCondbly fuppofet/, the Flood having near 4 Foot to flow, that it flowed longer than 7 o'clock that Morning, as 'tis con- firmed the Difcovery was kept a-ftern from 9 to 3 in the Afternoon of that Day :" I an*, of Mr. Bayes's Ophiioti^ 1 don't like your Sup^ pofes : Mr. DMs has fuppofcd a great many things throughout his Works, and made his Conclufions fi'om his SuppofttionSy as if th^ y had been Fads admitted and undeniable. If he pleafes to look into the Log-Book, he will find the Difcovery was a-ftern, and the Furnace was obliged to take her in Tow, or lie by for her, almofl: every Day throughout tfee wholeVoyage: fo that this Siippoiition confirms nothing, either iibout the Tides or of Moor'^' ^ever having try'd them from the time he left' Churchill^ or while he was upon the Difcovery, as Mr. Dobbs has aiTerted -, Moor was kept back, Mr. Dobbs fays, by a ftrong Tide from N. E. which is a flrong Prefumption that the Tide flow'd 'till 9, which confirms that it was Pligh-Water, ^c. Did ever Man write like this Gentle man ? Did ever any Man before Mm attempt to make a Prejmnption ©f his own a pojitive Proof f Surely, he does not M 2 con- ii i ' f- f I fiC (( i< (C €C [ ^4] eoplider what he writes, and niuil: have a v;;Fy mean Opinion of his Readers if he thinks fuch Stuff as this will go down with them. But to proceed j after his Frefumption is thus fully confirmed^ that it was High- Water at CapeFr/- gid on the 8th at 1 1 at Night, being two Days and a half later, he goes on in the following WordSj " But, even by his own Account that ^* it flowed that Morning 'till 7, it would then be an Hour later than at Wager River, it be- ing then fuU Moon, and flowed at Wager River at 6 that Morning : Does not that prove that his Flood did not go from thence to Wager River, but came the contraryWay ? I have already proved that when we pafs'd the lowermofl; Ifland at the Mouth of Wager River 30 Hours before, it was High- Wa- ter at a Quarter before 6 that Evening by the Water being fallen a Foot at 6, as we pafs'd clofe by the Ifland j and thefe ^o Hours later give High-Water a Quarter before 7. I afli Mr. Dobh if he -^an come nearer in computing the Tides than to a (^Jnarter of an Hour in a ftrange Place, who^^ no one can be fure of their time of flowing to a Point or two of their Ccmpafs, even in a Month or two's Obferva- tions ; but let us admit there were three Hours Pifference between Wager River and the Fro- zerir^traits^ or even between the Beach Point and this latter Place, which is about 6 or 7 Leagues ; admit, I fay, thefe tliree Hours which he contends for, will that be any Proof of the Xides and Whales not coming thro' the Frozen- Straits ;:ry uch the C 85 ] i^traits from the Atlantic Ocean, thro' Hud<^ fon'S'StraitSy Baffin' s-Bay, and Cumberknd-ljles ? Does not the Tide-Table prove that at South-' "Ronalpaw, one of the Southermoft Ifiei of Ork'^ neyy it flows S. E. and by S. in Pentknd-Firth not two Leagues diftant from it, that it flows S. the fame at Buckannefs, Peterhead^ and Rat^ terhead S. Thefe three lafl are diftant firomP^;//- land-Firth 25 or 30 Leagues, yet is it High- Water at all thefe three Places at the very fame time, allowing 4 Minutes for each Degree they differ of Meridian : Nay, we may fay the fame from Harwich all up the Swin^ and almoil to the Nore, for 'tis High- Water at the fame Pay, fame Time, fame Hour, as at Fentland-- Firth, &c, and yet they are two Hours and a Quarter's Difference between South-Ronaljhaw and Pent land-Firth, tho' hardly two Leagues diftant the one from the other. At Cromer and Blackeney, on the Norfolk Coaft, it flows S. E. as I have often mentioned to Mr. Dobbs, and will be High- Water at 9 ; the fame Tide makes High-Water at the three above-mentioned Places, where it flowed S. at 12 : Thefe are 90 or 1 00 Leagues afunder, and the Tides come from Buckannefs to Cromer : He may be con- vinced of this by all Tide-Tables, as well as by all who have wrote upon Tides, and that there is no depending upon the Coiirfe or Height of them when at 1 30 Leagues Diftance from the Ocean as Cromer is from the If[es of Orkney, or 100 Leagues from Buchannefs. It is three Hours High- Water fooner at Cromer than '■ , 'ti ,ll !'i'l r m ' ! il [ 86] than at the aforefaid Places. If Mr. Dohbs has found any Way to be certain of the Tides, it would be a great Service to his Country if he would publifh it, but I fancy we are not as yet near fo great a Blefling, for I fhall fhew in the Sequel he knows nothing of them ; he con- founds himfelf and Reader by his Endeavours to invert them. P. 8^, the next Paragraph, Mr. Dobhs tells us, that I fpeak without Booky when I fiy that I fent the Mafier in the Boat between 8 and g to know if the Ebb was made to the Eajiward^ where he loji his grappling by the Strength of the Ebb, What Ground has this Gentleman to fay I fpeak without Book ? What I advanced is confirmed by what I have already written ; and all his Labour to invert the Tides, flop up, and thus bring them from the Weflern American Ocean by his own Suppofitions and Prefump- tions, which he calls Confirmations, will hardly overfet all the Oblervations made upon the Spot, marked in Logs and Journals, and fworn to by People prefent at the making of them. As to what he fays of the flawing of the Tide, as well as his bringing it from the JVeJi, it is al- ready confuted : But with regard to what Mr. Dobbs fays of the Tides, which he endeavours to invert, I beg Leave, as every body who may read this may not have what has been be-* fore publiflied, here to infert Part of the An- fwers, &c, of fome of my Officers and Men who were upon the Spot at the trying or feeing the Tides try'd : Donalfony Iverjon, Motiro, Gill in ir << C( (C (( (( i( J' tl ft n- en m [ 87] in Anfwer to fome Queries fay, " We very well remember that when we got out o^JVa- ger River, we met the Flood Tide, which came ftrong from the Eaftward, where we difcovered the Frozen-St7'aits : We try'd the Tides every Hour, or every two Hours, with our Current Log. We remember that the Mafter lofl a Grappling in trying the Tide a Day or two after we got out of W^iger Ri- ver, by the Strength of the Tide, which ran 4 Knots in the New-Straits, " We farther remember thatCapt. Middleton ordered the Lieutenant to make Sail from the large Opening that we then faw, which was the Mouth of the Frozen-Straits^ the Ude of Ebb being made a little after 8 that Morn- ing, and then the Captain weiit aihore in the lix-oar'd Boat to high Land, which was not far from us ; this was about 10 in the Morn- ing, the Tide fat ftrong into this Strait or Inlet. The * Mafter delivers himfclf in the follow- ing WordSj " Whilft the Ship was working and driving to Hay for the Boats coming on board, flie was hauled almofl into the Frozen- Straits upon the Ebb, and fet from it on the Flood, tho' the Wind blew right off, fo that flie was obliged to fet fill and fland from it, Tvhen the Captain went away with the Boat, 'tiii we got fome Diflance from its Indraught : The Captain took the Height of the Tide ^ \Nh&Xi he returned to the Boat. By the Ac- ^;V, •, .,-, . A-^ ■ • " count J . * Q^^^y i i ^'^ ^^'^ Admiralty^ I 11 <( (C iC tf (( 4( (C ;■■<{ f« ill j Sit '■ "" M M' n I m IMAGE EVALUATION TEST TARGET (MT-3) v ,v^ r/a 1.0 I.I 1.25 ISO ■^~ 114 1^ 22 12.0 1.8 1.4 L 1^ v^ vQ ^;. /A ''^ '/ Sdences Corporation 23 WEST MAIN STREET WEBSTER, N.Y. 14580 (716) 873-4503 o^ ct €C «t «C CC €C te (C [ 88 ] count the Men gave him when he got baclc^ the Tide had flowed 4 Foot, and he afterwards found by the Marks on the Shore that it •* flowed 15 or 16 Foot in all, and that a W. •* or W. by S. Moon made High-Water. In his Anfwer to Query the 14th the Mafl:er &ys, " The Tide we found in 6^^ 20', in *' fhore, was not half fo ftrong as what we ** found in the NeiO-Strait, between the Ri-- ver Wager and Cape Hope in the NarrowSi I try'd feveral times myfelf when almoft ealm, and it broke our deep-Sea -Line in bringing up our fmall Boat, and loft our Grappling. ^■^''^' *^'''''-' tv>.--*«*»^ »•..■( p.yn The Lieutenant's Anfwer to Query the nth fays, " I remember I was hauled away to the " N. E. about 10 or II o'Clock. * • Thomas Tcnvns fwears, ** He is certain of his own Knowledge, that all the Way from the • Frozen-Strait to the River JVager, the Tide " of Flood came from the Eaftward. Vlrich Von Sobriek fwears in the following Words, " The Flood Tide which flows up " the River fFager in at its Mouth, comes all " from the E. on the E. by N. the Courfe of •* the New-Strait by Compafs. The Lieutenant's Journal, Auguji 4, has thefe remarkable Words, " I feveral times ** try*d the Tide, and found the Flood came " from the E. The Reader may obferve all along that this Gfentlieman, the Lieutenant, is a Witnefs for Mr* Dodh, iince he delivered in his Journals - ,♦ ^ ... I Satchel fwearsj P. 90, of my Reply ^ ** That he had read the Queries to, and Anfwers ofj Donalfojii, Iverfon, Monro ^ and Gill, and does averr in the nioft folemn Manner that the chief Particulars of the faid Anfwers to the heft of his Remembrance are Truth, that he heard Richard Guy declare, during the Voy- agCj the greater Part of what is contained iii his Affidavit." He farther fays, " That the Captain flood on the Gang-way to talk to the Lieutenant, and that he heard the faid Captain, when in the Boat, wifh the Lieu- tenant might obferve his Order, or he would be drawn into the Opening by the Tide of Ebb (fince call'd the Frozen Straits):' He alfofwears, " He was one of the Boat's Crew when he went in Purfuit of the Bear to the Wcflward of the Cove, which was at Mar- bk'IJland^ or Brcok-Cohham^ when they took it in Tow they had miich ado to pull up again to the Cove^ the Tide of Flood coming fo flrong from the Eaflward ; and adds it was if, I t M N " between ^^ ^v^ ij.ar." -n^-iA d t^.xvv !^ Now cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc \( tc cc cc a ' * N. B. This fhoiild be the Tame Morning, as appears in the Report this Deponent figned on board. [ 91 ] Now here is a Cloud of Teftimonies which fully prove the Tide from the Eaftward, and if Mr. Dobbs's Aflertions, grounded upon his Sup- pofitions, are of more Weight with the Public than the Evidence of fo many Witnefles, fome of whom have bound down their Souls forthe Truth of what they faid, byattefting theGRE at Crea- tor in the moil folemn Manner, then all the Pains Mr. Dobbs has been taking by concealing, by foifting in, by evading, and by endeavour- ing to confound his Readers, to invert the Tides, has been laterem lavare. It is demonflrable by thefe Teftimonies, and by his miftaking two Days in his Account of Tides, which I take to be wilfully done, that he has, throughout this whole Difpute, made it his principal Study to perplex and puzzle his Readers, that he might the ealier impofe upon them, give me Leave to fay that it is very vifible he has alfo, by thefe Endeavours, confounded himfelf. As Mr. Dobbs cannot come off from the Charge of his WitneiTes contradicting in one Place what they aflert in another ; his Words are thefe, " In Anfwer to this I ihall only in- form him, (i. e. me) that I made up no Forms of Affidavits for my Witnefles to fwear, or drew Papers for them to atteft." It may be fo ; if he did not, I have already ac- knowledged I did ; let him make the beft of it, it will do his Caufe as little Service as his Anfwer to my Forgery DeteSied towards the proving Axx'% Letter and Draught genuine^ N 2 which (( cc (( I! ■3M 1! cc (C cc ct cc CI yhich that vtryAnfwer has inconteftably proved a Forgery. - ^ -^ • • ■ In P. 88 Mr. Dobbs fays, « Having finidi'd this great Point of his Frozen-Straits and Tides, from thence ( how wretchedly appears from what is juft faid) I fliall now confider his grand Attack againft me, about my Ignorance of the Tiieory of Tides in ge- neral, and the Application of ihat to particu- lar Tides." After which he quotes what I wrote, and then yauntingly fays, Let not him ki)ho puts on the Armour boajl like him who takes it off; the impartial Reajer Jhall be Judge be- tween us. He then^ fays Ml*. Dobbs ^ as if it was a great Dijcovery to me^ he fays the natural Run of the Tide, free from Impediments, is 6 Hours 12'. I fay this was a great Difcovery to Mr. Dobbsy his Calculations in his former Book proves he did not know it 5 it was a Se- cret to him ; and I fhall prove by and by that he is flill ignorant and but a Smattcrer in the Tides. After this he fets down about 28 Lines more of my Inflrudlions, and then cries out and fays, Did e'ver 1 advance it I becaufe I fay that in running thro'- Hudfon's-Straits // was 5 Points in flowiyjg 140 Leagues^ as by his fpurnaly or 130, as he calls it in his Defence ^ Viz.fromE. S. E, to S.by E. and yet he would allow it to be but one Point f owing from thejice to Albany 250 Leagues^ which was not 48' in tin^e, thd' the,, other ipas three Hours 48', or if to be very corretl I mufi call it three Hours 52' nearly. Tho* Mr. !^obbs is not grajteful enough to thank me for the les f 53 ] my Inftrudions, yet I am very well plcafed to find he profits by them, for he has at laft hit the Nail on the Head : But to proceed in my Quo- tation, Or, fays he, is it from calling it j * Points^ 1 2 Hours 48', that he Jhould allege I al- low but 6 Hours to a Tide^ inftead of 6 noun 1 2', having not taken Notice of the Moon's prch grejpve Motion in her Orbit F I fay, here is a Concefiion of a Blunder, I don't think, fays Mr. Dobbs, there is any Witchcraft in knowing that the Moon governs the Tide by her Attrac- tion, as Jhe tranfits each Meridian, Mr. Dobbsy by the above Queries, feems to have been puzzled to find out a Reafon w^hy I fhould tax him with Ignorance, when I fay the Notion of a natural Tide's running 6 Hours is erro- neous. He has, at laft, found out theReafons,and has corrected one of thefe Errors by making his 3 Hours 48' 3 Hours 52'. His other Blunder is 1 2 Hours 48', for 17 Points inftead of 1 5 Hours I o' : This is a plain Demonftration that he did not know, 'till I taught him, the natural. Courfe of the Tides, and that the Sun differs ft-om the Moon 48' in its diurnal Revolution : If he knew it before, as he pretends he did, why would he print fo wrong a Calculation ? And this fhews that he did not know how to quarter his Compafs. ' ..'v- ,^ ^ . ,. v... In the following Paragraph, P. 90, Mr. Dobbs fviys, His next fuperior Knowledge, which in his Goodnefs he is pleafed to communicate, is, I own, beyond my Depth, &c. I am t^ioroughly con- vinced t: m f This is a Miilake in the Prcfs, and Ihould be 17. [ 9+ J vinced it is, tho' I am fatisfy'd, notvvithftand- ing this Confcffion, if ever he print? again with relation to the prefent Difpute, he will retratSt it, and fay he knew the Solution of this Diffi- culty before he had it from me. However, t^t us fuppofe a S. Moon makes High- Water at any two Places, for Example, at the Nore and Pentland-Firth^ the Nore being 4° of Lon- gitude to the Eaftward of the aforefaid Firth^ I fay that a S. Moon makes High- Water on Full and Change Days in both Places, allowing only for the time the 4" of Longitude gives, 'uiz. 16', confequently it will be High- Wa- ter at the Nore 16 Minutes fooner than at Pentland-Firth^ and at all Places if a 1000 Leagues afunder on the fame Meridian, where a S. Moon makes High-Water as often as fhe tranlits that Meridian. This is what I faid, and what yix^Dobhs obliges me to repeat : He then fays, This is my great Myfter\\ and profound Knou'Iedge of the Tides, fetting down the very Words, confequently all Tides upon the fame Meri- dian mufi be the fame, whether at any Fart of that Meridian they fhould flow upon any other Point of the Compafs, fo that if it flowed E. as well as the other S. than all the Tides upon the fame Meridian mufi be the fame, tho' at great Difiance, giving the fame Allowance of 4' to a Degree y an E. Moon will caufe an £. Tide all along that Meridian, This Abfurdity, he fays, I muft run into from my Theory, or muft al- low the Tide may be 12 Hours 24', or 16 Points In flowing from one Place to another. This I// 1- as hisown Words in the fame P. 92, prove, *wiz. " For if he means only from his Pofition, that if upon any two Places upon a Meridian it fhould be High- Water with a S. Moon, it will be High- Water for ever in thefe Places with a S. Moon, or fo upon anjr other Point, E. or S. E. &c, the " Tides will continue the fame for ever ; that is faying nothing, for all know that whatever Moon makes a natural fide at any Place of the Globe, the fame and oppofite Moon makes the fame ; fo that affirming tJiat, is faying what all the World already knows." I fay 'tis faying every thing, 'tis allowing what I advanced, and what he did not know before, or he would not have allowed 1 2 Hours 48' for 17 Points, inftead of 13 Hours 10', and have printed it. But we (hall find he will by and by contradidl this which he here acknowledges all the World knows ; but I am afraid Mr. Dobbs is not altogether fo much Mafter of this Point as he would have the World believe, or would impofe upon his Readers ; for, tho* every Seaman knows that whatever Moon makes High- Water, the oppofite Moon does fo too, yet this, as Mr. Dobbs imagines, and would have his Readers think, does not happen at the fame time ; for this oppofite Moon of N. and S. or E. and W. are as oppofite as Day and Night J for if on the one Point it flows in the Middle of the Day, it will fall out on the other near [ y6 ] hear Midnight; whence 'tis plain there are ii: Hours 24', or a Semi-circle Difference. To amufe his Readers, and make a Parade, he introduces the Principles upon which Sit Ifaac Newton has founded his Theory of Tides*, which relate no more to our prefcnt DifputCj than a Seaman's knowing the Caufe of theM/^- «^//V Quality before he can fteer by the Com- pafs : He here kills two Birds with one Stone ; he gratifies his Vanity, and at the fame time im-- pofes upon the Underftanding of the ignorant rart of his Readers, by fliewing he has read that great Man's Philofophy : But his Applica- tion of it, with Men of Underftanding, proved he does not underftand what he has quoted, which makes againft him ; for what have we to do with the Confiderations of fuch Af^ fedions of the Tides as are, or would be, uni- verial upon Suppojition of the whole Globe's be- ing covered with a Fluid or Ocean, when we are difputing upon particular Cafes or Fad:s from a Series of Obfervations ? But whoever has a Mind to be fatisfied of Mr. Dobbs's under- ftanding the general Theory of the Tides let them look into the late learned Dr. Hallefs ex- cellent Illuftration of Sir Ifaac Newton'^ Theory of them in Phil, TronJ\ N° 226. Lewthorp'r^ Abridgment itom P. 285 to 288. Vol. II. Mr. Dobbs^ P. 94, and 95, taxes me with what I faid, viz. That a S. Moon makes High- Water at all Places on the fame Meridian : W^hat I advanced is what he has acknowledged inP, 92, thatat any two or more Places upon the fame ar;jT .»-■+ (I (( !ne Mcridiiiti, if it lliould be High-Water with a S. Moon on Full and Change Days it [ would be High- Water for ever in thofe Places, as often as the Moon comes to the S. and the lame upon any other Point : This, I fay, he has allowed, and yet he makes an x^ibfurdity of ^ the Inftancc I gave of a S. Moon making High- ^ Water at Pent land- Firth and the Nore j and he will prove, " That it is the N. Moon at Pejitland-^ ^ Firth y tliat, by its progreflive Motion, caufes ^ the S. Flood at the Nore^ even from his own Tide-Table, which he has publifhed from " Greenville Collins ; by it we find at 1 2 at " Full-Moon it is High- Water at Pentland^ " Firth : It is no Matter whether I call this a " N. or S. Moon, and therefore here I ftiall call if ? S. Moon, and then make out that, at tVeNorey to be N. at Jljerdeen a S. W. by S. ?^Ioon makes High- Water at two Hours, 45 Minutes ; at Ti?imonth and Sunderland ^ a S. W. Moon at three o' Clock ; at Scarborough % W. S. W. at four Hours, 30 Minutes j at ^ SpurnCy W. by S. at five Hours, 15 Minutes; Cromer and Blakejiy, N. W. at nine Hours j Lafilf]] N. N. W. at 10 Hours, 30 Minutes j'^ Orfordnefi^ Aldborough^ Sec. N. by W. ; Har- wich, Bifoy^ on the Gunfeet^ N. at 12; the Norr^ N. half E. or 12 Hours, 15 Minutes : Here the Tide thro' the Engltjh Channel *' joins it, it having flowed from the Chops of *' the Channel, where an E. N.E. Moon makes , " High- Water, to a S; when it comes to the" ** S. Foreland. Is not this a Demonftratiort that the Tide flows by a progreflive Motion O •* from Kl be near High- Water, as it flows there near S. and then we will take Notice of the feveral Dif- ferences between Pentland-Firth and the NorCy and of their Times of High- Water 3 after which I fhall leave it to the Learned, and to experienc'd Seamen to determine whether Mr. Dobbs or I is the beft Judge of Tides ? ' • At Pentland-Firth t Buchannefs^ &c. it is High- Water at or near the fame time as at the Nore ; and at all Places near the fame Meridian, where it ftows S. that very Noon-Tide, as ap- pears by the Tide-Table in my Reply : AtAber^ deen^ S. by W. which is 45 Minutes paft Noon, that very Day Tide, when High- Water ; at Dondee, Montrofs, and St, Andrews, a S. W. by S. Moon makes High- Water the fame Day, and Tide at 1 5 Minutes after two in tJie After- O 2 jioon; [ lop ] noon ; at Thimputb, Sunderland^ &:c. when the Moon comes upon the S. W. Point, which will be the fame Tide, at three in the fame Af- ternoon 5 it will be High- Water at Scarborough and Burlington^ when the Moon comes upon the W. S. W. Point, which will be at half an Hpur paft four the fame Day's Tide when High- Waters at Cromer and Blakeny^ when the Moon comes upon the S. E. Point, which are three Hours before the Noon or Meridian Tide, or at nine the fame Morning of the fame Pay when High-Water ; at Lajliff it will be High- Water when . the Moon comes to the S. S. E. at 10 Ilpiir?, 30 Minutes, in the Morn- ing J and at Oijordnefs the fame Tide at three Quarters before Noon ; at Handfordy Water^ "Harwich^ Harbour^ Buoy of the Gunjleety Shoo^ Be^cony and ahiiofl up to tPie Nore^ a S. Moon makes High- Water : Now all this is the fame Day's Tide, and the undoubted Truth that none can deny who know any thing of the Tides, and is confirmed by all Obfervations ; and this all who know: or live along the Sea, can atteft. When the Moon comes to the oppollte Meri- dian, or vulgarly called the N. which will be 24 Minutes after 1 2 at Night, it will then be High- Water at all the above Places, where before a S. Moon made High- Water : And this is wliat is meant by faying where it flows S. it alfo flows N. and at all thefe before-mentioned Places it will be High- Water when the Moon comes upon their adverfc Points, which Difference, po' it is that of a Semi-circle, or 1 6 Points, or in Jn time 1 2 Hours, 24 Minutes, Mr. Do^h will have to be one and the fame thing : Now how does this agree with his progreflive Tide, and piaking it 12 Hours, 24 Minutes, High-Water fooner at Pentland-Firth than at the Nore ? The leaft Boy in a Coafter knows that it is High- Water at all Places where a S. Moon makes High- Water at, or near, the fame Meri^ dian one and the fame Tide and Time, and fo upon any olher Point of the Compafs, with the aforefaid Allowance, where it flows the fame ; for Example, S. W, W. or N. W. ^c. and this js demonflrated by the Tide-Table. Mr. Dobbs endeavours to fhew, by his pro- greflive Motion, that the Tide takes up fome time in running from Pentland-Firth to the l^ore as the former is nearer to the Ocean, but Experience proves the contrary of this, and he may be convinced by the Tide-Table, and at all the interjacent Places, wliere it makes High- Water before the Moon comes to the Meridian is a Proof which makes againfl: his progreflive Motion : As at Sole^ Dunwich^ and alfo at Cro^ mer, at above 100 or 130 Leagues diftant from the Ocean, tho' the Tide conies from thence makes High- Water two and three Hours fooner than at Pentland-Firth > nay, even at Shetland in the Ocean, ao or 30 Leagues from the N. of jS'fo/te^, the High- Water being later than at Crth- »;rr by three Quarters of an Hour, is an undeniable Demonftration againfl: its progrefllive Motion. Mr. Dobbs, in the fame Page 95, takes Care %o begin at 1 2 o'Clock at Pentland-Firth, and ends f I02 ] ends at 12 at xhtNore-, but here, according to his ufual indeterminate Way of Writing, he leaves the Readers in the dark whether his progreiTive Mo- tion took up the time of one or two Tides j and whether he calls it N. or S. it argues no more than this, that tho Moon could not be upon one and its oppolite Meridian at the flime time : He iays, P. 96, According to the fame I flmll exa- mine the I'ides i?2 Difpute in Hudfon's-Bay, ^c^ But as his Polition is here already proved falfe, and as he goes upon the very fame, it is not worth while to follow him any farther with regard to his Tides : I fhall, therefore, con- clude this Head with borrowing from the Words of Mr. Dobbsy " So it is plain that Rea- ** fon and Fads are againfl his Theory of Tides, ** and plainly fhew how injudicioufly he en- ** deavoured to make Ufe of Sir IJaac New- ** ton's Theory of the Tides ; ana here I fhall *-* beg Leave to refer to the Reader whether he " has fhewn any fuperior Knowledge of the « Tides. Mr. Dobbsy P. 99, entertains his Reader with a School-Boy's Story of the Method I took to get the Men to fay the Water was not very fait : This is new coined becaufe he can't get off of Moor's Anfwer to Query the 7th, fent to him by the Lords of the Admiralty, which, with regard to the Frefhnefs of the Water, was as follows, I'he Men tajied the Water in their Handsy and faid 'twas not very fait : Why did not he, at the fame time, let their Lordfhips know that this was realy no more than Com- plaifance C 103 ] plaliance to me who faid fo before them. All this Affair of the Water has been canvafs'd over and over, wherefore I fhall leave it to the Reader to determine, whether this idle Story newly cook'd up, to i*fe Mr. Dobbs'^ own Words, and the Lieutenant's different Anfwers on this Subjed, or the Oaths of two Men, Van Sobriek and Guy, one of whom fwears to the tafling the Water in the Mid-Channel three or four Leagues above Deer-Soundy and the other makes Oath to the Frefhnefs of the Water all the Way farther up, and that the Men drank of it for want of Beer, is the Truth ? We find the Lieutenant's Anfwer to Query the ifl is, *' ne Water I think was fait ; but, as I would " not depend on my own Judgment, I filled " three Bottles with Water at three different ** Places, and brought them on board at my " Return, and was told there was no Diflinc- " tion, for they were all equally alike fait." Here he is quite diffident, and would not tnift to his own Tafle, tho' upon the Spot ; but I find two Years and a half have improved his Tafle and ripened his Judgment, for he is now very pofitive that it is quite fait, as I am very credi- bly informed. As to the Opening betwixt Cape Frigid and the Low-Beach the Difpute is not about the Breadth of the Opening, which disjoins the Law-Beach from the S. End of Cape Frigid, by a Channel of three Miles in Width ; but whether Mr. Moor at 28 or 30 Miles Diflance could fee fuch an Opening ? That he was at [ 104 ] th^t Diftance Is evident from his own Journal^ which {hews he brought Cape Hope to bear N. N. W. which could not be Fa(!t if he was not 3 or 4 Leagues to the Northward of the N. End of the Nominal Ifland of Cape Frigidy as their forged Draught defcribes it : And as that makes it 7 Leagues long, and he was 3 or 4 Leagues to the Northward of it, which is 30 Miles at the loweft Reckoning, befide the Breadth of the Channel, prove that his Sight is very near as good as the Lieutenant's, who could fee 12 or 13 Leagues, with his naked Eye, Openings clear of Ice, and pierce thro' a Bluff-Point to fee a Low-Point beyond it : What Lynx's Eyes have Mr. Dohbs's WitnelTes ! The reft from P. 103 is no more than Repetitions, except his fhuffling, but not offering in what he there fays to deny his, or his Agents, having a Hand in, or Knowledge of, the anonymous Letter, before he received it ^ charging me with what has been already anfwcred, and giving us upon his Word a Story of Mr. G///, which I don't believe a Word of. If he had a Letter containing what he advances, why did he not print it? He haa no Ground to exped: his Word fliould be taken; As to the anonymous Letter he flounders terri-' biy ; he has given here a very-idle and lame Ex- cufe for his WitnelTes being three Months filent, which he fays is more than I could have ex- pelled, but I lliall give his own Words, " Their Silence was occafioned by waiting until they knew how he reprefented theDifcovery in his Journal and Chart, and at lafl finding, he " wa^ «.( (< (C [ "»"o5 ] " w^is rcprefcnting his Rivers, Tides and Straits,*; ** quite contrary to Truth, they then think- " ing it a Crime to have the Public fo grofly " impofed upon, and thinking they had not " Weight enough to impeach him before th? " Lords of the Admiralty, as they believed I " had the Truth of the Difcovery much at " Heart, they communicated their Thoughts of his Condud to me, believing I would fupport them in bringing it to a hearing! and therefore Capt. Middleton had reafon to expe<^ this Attack from them: For Capt. Aloor affirms, that both Mr. Lendrick and he informed Capt. Middleton, in Wager River, how there was a murmuring on board the Ships, that the Difcovery was neglcded, for it was the Opinion of feve- " ral, that there was a Paflagc to the Weft- " ward into an Ocean; that it was not a Ri- ver that the Ships were in, but properly to kno-ju ho:;; I re- f P frefcyited frefented the T)ifcovery in my Journal or Chart, cr think it a Crime to have the Pub- lic fogrcfsly imfofed upon, by my reprefent- ing Tidet^ Rivers and Straits, quite con- trary to Truth ; if 1 had fo done, as they were acquainted with my Chart long before wc made England, they might by an anonymous Lcttci jointly with Mr. Lendrick, have written to the Lords of the Admiralty, or to Mr* ^obhf (ic.^ rFygate had his Addrefs) as well as Mr. Lendrick wrote to his Father the Lst- tcr which he printed, and is a (landing Evir dence againft any thing Mr. T^obbs may fay he advances to prove my Mifconduif i but tis pofllble they did not think of an anonymous Letter, till Mr. T)obbs's Agents put it into their Heads. As to Mr. Moor and Mr. Len- drick's informing me in IVager River, that there was a murmuring on board the two Ships, of the Paffage being ncgledcdj that feveral were of Opinion that there was one Weft ward into an Oa -^li that Wager River was not fo, but a real Strait y that the Lieu- tenant, Surgeon and Clerk, held Councils-, thai they kept (Notes ot) all Tranfadionsi that they would have a Hearing before the Lords of the Admiralty, ^r. is all pure in- vention, and their Silence fo long together, with Mr. ^obbs not mentioning thefe Par- ticulars in his JRemarks, and they having made no L^fc of the Councils they held, ahiioft cvcrv Night, the Notes they took of all Tran- S^iom, and their not applying to the Lords of '^TT? In- *ar- bdc lOft irds of ['\^7 ] of the Admiralty, as they arc faid to have threatncdj Mr. Lendrick*s Letter to his Fa- ther and to Mr. ^ohhs^ both which fpeak the Impollibility of any Paflagc into the Wef- tern Ocean: The Lieutenant dcliv'cring his two Journals to the Admiralty and Navy-Of* fee, which confirm that there was no Paflagc i my Journal being figncd by the Lieutenant ^ Majier, and Mr. Smith, fix Months after our Arrival fn the River Thames, that the Con- tents thereof were Truth 5 bis very Witneffes being loud in my Commendation, (which by the bye Mr. T^obbs drops) till they were tam- pered with by Mr. 9[!)^^^j's Friend or Friends 5 the Lieutenant's coming to me Hx or fcvcti Months after my Arrival, and telling mc he had received a Letter from Mr. ^obbs, which he fhewed me, defiring him the Lieutenant to dine with him the next Day, which 1 defired he would do, and he accordingly did, and his atterwards informing me, that Mr. 'Dobbs wanted him to draw up fomething to prove my voluntary Neglcdt or Concealment of the Difcovery, that he anfwercd he knew of no- thing but what was contained in his Journals and Reports, which he would abide by; that he met the Surgeon and Clerk at Mr. i)obbs\ Lodgings, who fcemed to him to have been planted as Witnefles to hear what he (hould fay, and judging by their Familiarity with that Gentleman, that they had been with him be- fore: Mr. Smithy recommended by Mr. T^obbS) telling mc there was a clofc Defign Pa cari^lng [ »o8 ] carrying on againft me, by Mr. DobbSy my 'Lieutenant^ then C d, my Clerks and my Surgeon i that Mr. PVilfon, who was juft ar- rived in the River, he believed was drawn into this Combination; Mr. Smith's coming to me a fccond Time, and telling me that Mr. ^Dobbs liad formed a Scheme to invali- date my Journal, and reprefcnt it as a falfe one, but that Mr. Rankin informing him, that his own Journals were already delivered in, and fo could not be altered, as they agreed in the main with mine, that Projeft was dropt : Thompfon and Wygate threatening to beat the faid Mr. "James Smith (Brother to Samuel Smithy Agent for Mr. ^obbs) for telling me what they were about, and faying that I deferved to be cut into Pound Pieces j his Mr. Smithy borrowing Money of me to get out of their Way, which Money his Brother paid me af- terwards : The anonymous Letter which is dated January 2, 1742-3, juft four Months to a Day, before my Officers w^cre examined at the Admiralty, being neither produced nor publickly mentioned, nor even heard of till Mr. Dobbs's Remarks wore publifhed, many Months after the Examination •. Mr. Gill and Lendrick's writing me the following Letter (in which Mr. ^obbsh^stho."^ glaring Impu- dence * to tax me with Forgery, by inferring the Words, worji of Men, though he knows I have the Letter to confute him.) ^^^^s Vv^ ^^"^'■" ■ ■ .'•v SheernefSy * A polite Term borrow^ Trom Mc. Dohhi^ Remarkt, p. 31. » • : t »09 ] ■^'.v fyfifi VvW rrj Steernefs, Sept. i-fy 1742. WE think ourfelvcs in Gratitude ob- liged to return our humble Thanks for your Favour, in fending us your Book " and Chart. Wc have read the greatcft Part of it, and arc heartily forry (you fliould meet with fuch Treatment, for your Services to your Country j as we arc perfcdly well " aflured your circumfpcft Care and Vigilance " did not at all merit fuch a Return. But we can impute it to nothing but the ma- licious Suggeftions of thofe two worft of " iWi ■i'r; ^"^ Tour mofi obedient^ and ^ moft humble Servant^ ' '-. ',-■■ '■ ^ J. Daniel Gill, , * . >- ,{f '-"^ A W D ■;: ,' John Lendrick. «. ^'Thcfe Ji'^t ^'. r,,-,4" .. :■}-{«? TT .■h '-^^ [ no ] Thcfe Circumftanccs I fay, maturely conft- dcred, are more than prcfumptivc Proofs* that the anonymous letter was the ProduQion of Mr. ^obbs's fertile Genius, which I believe would never fuflfcr him to pump long for a - 5 but that my Readers may be capable of forming a Judgment upon this Head of the anonymous Letter, and not have the Trouble to refer to my Reply, I (hall here print my Charge, which will fhew how lame is his above Defence in the Behalf of his Witneflcs, p. 127, and Seq. of my Reply. " The Rca- " fons which I think evince that the anonymous " Letter, which proves to have been written by Wygate and Thomffony was not i'ponta- ncous, or the EfFe£l of public Zeal, (the Reafon therein giv»:n) but that of Bribes, or large Promifcs, or both, arc thcfe 5 Firjlf " We arrived in the River the 2d of O^iober^ and this anonymous letter bears dare Ja- nuary the id 1742-3 ; here are three Months clapfcd, and not one Word mentioned all this Time, by any one of his Witneflcs of my Roguery in concealing the Paflage, lay- ing down falfe Tides, inventing a frozen Strait, ei^r. but on the contrary, thefc very Men were extravagant in their Commenda- tions of me. If I may be allowed to fay, with Regard to my Treatment of them, " I had fome Claim to their Gratitude. Thefc Encomiums on me, are vouched by the following Account, and Letters in the jif- ** pendix. -- ^ ^ ^ ''''"".'"'!' Secondly, n €C <( [ III ] i ' " Secondly t Mr. '\Dobbs himfclf fays, p. 74, " of his Remarks, his Witncflcs were both ** loth to criminate the Captain j yet thcfc « ygpy Witncflcs wtotc the anonymous Lct- ** tcr. How (hall wc othcrwifc reconcile this " Inconfiftcncy, which Mr. "Dobbs fcems not to be aware of, than by fuppofing that they *' had been tampered with, by his Agents, ** who found them unwilling to be made " Tools of, without a Confideration. If they •* were to enter into vile Mealures, they " would, we may fuppole, make their own " Market, and be well paidj and the more backward they fecmed, the more likely were they to enhance the Price of their Evidence. We may farther fuppofe, to re- concile the above Inconfiftcncy, that Mr. - « ^obbs's Agents had Penetration enough to " dilcover their Views 5 that accordingly he wrote to his Principal, and received Orders " from him to bid up to their Price, v * ' " Thirdly, This Silence with Regard to my '* Mifcondudl is furprifing, as they knew he ** had on board my Ship three young Gcntlc- *' men^ who were Mr. ^ohbs's Friends, re- *' commended by him to make the Voyage *• with me, and to thcfe they might fafely " have opened their Hearts i but neither to ** them, nor to any one clfe during the Voy- age, iior after our Return, during the above Space of three Months, did they ever mcn- '* tiop one Word of their great Concern, to " fee ( U n %( , • /^^t^ . f Here's a Point and a half DifFcrence. ,. .; ..^'. , ., (( cc cc <( €t CC CC cc cc cc cc cc «l cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc «c cc «c cc AC cc cc C ii8 ] Cape Do6lfs at one View by Day-Light. The fame Day he has put down the Latitude ob- ferved at Noon, 64° 10' from nay Pocket Log-Book, as he calls it, and there is no Latitude at that time in the Log from which he pretends this an Extrad:. The 1 2th at Noon, from my Log-Book, he has in his pretended Extradl fet down the Latitude 63* 56' ; this is not in the Log-Book, from which he fays he has made this Extrad, At 6 in the Afternoon his Extrad fays, Saw the Land all along the N. Shore, diftant from it 7 or 8 Leagues, I own this Diftance at 7 or 8 Leagues is fet down in the Manufcript Wafte or Log-Book ; but the Alteration from * 2 or 3 to 7 or 8 is manifeft, for the Fi- gure 2 is plainly to be perceived between 7 and the Disjunctive or, and the Figure of 3 is turned into an 8. Who has been guilty of this clumfy Forgery I won't take upon me to fay, but Mr. Do^lfs had this Book fome Months in his Cuftody. This is a material Alteration in Favour of that Gentleman's Caufe, as it was the very Place where it was refolved in Council to begin our Search. The 1 3th at Noon, his Extrad fliews the Latitude 63° 14 ; this is not in the Wafte Log-Book, but taken from my printed Log. The fame Day at Noon, another Head-Land, at the lame, bears S. W. by S. in his Extrad ; it " fliould * Mr. Dol^h willfully miftakes thcfe Figures, and Hiakes them 3 and 4 iiiilead of 2 and 3. v^ -jiCi .i?*^ y,'i' ("ik*. c< [ "9 ] fhould be W. by S. but this may be an Error ** of the Prefs, as it makes neither for him nor " againftme." -^ ^'''^ -^'^ '^ ^ .r^^-. ^ Mr. DoI;/?s at the Head of his Extraft, as he calls it, tells his Readers, that he " begins Sun^ " day the 8th from 12 at Night, and that I *' begin it only from Noon on Sunday :" But; in Reality, I begin Sunday at the Saturday be- fore at Noon, by which he deligns to puzzle the Readers, for my (as he calls it) Sunday the 8th from Noon 'till 1 2 at Night, is, in Fa<3:, no more than Friday the 6th, and his Sunday the 8th is no more than Saturday the 7th -f*. In P. 1 04, he tells us, that to the Charges I have brought againft him, he fhail only fay, fFhat could I gain by endeavouring to fend out other Ships, Jince they muji detect me if there is m Pafjhge ? This is a very poor Come-ofF, fince I have already ihew^n, and I fancy the World be- lieves, that the Search of a PalTage is but a Cloak to cover other Defigns, the Difcovery of which are no Way confiftent with his Inte- reft, or, poflibly, his Reputation, and it is not impoffible he may hope they will not (if this pretended Search is artfully carried on) come to I/ight in his Time, as the Story fays, 'The King may die, I may die, or the Afs may die. Farther, if a PalTage is reported to be found, who will confute him ? But fuppofe a Paflage realy found thro' Rivers and Lakes, but fuch as is not f A Proof Mr. Dchbi underftands Journals extremely wcU, if this is not with Defign. rt [ 120 ] flttl navigable by Ships, of what Advantage wil! it be to the Public? it M'^ill indeed be one to Mr. Dobbs^ if he gets the Reward by its not being fpecified that it (hall be a navigable PafTage for Shipping. ,;.;,.v ., » I have hitherto deferred taking Notice of my worthy Kinfman's Evidence againft mc, as I think an Anfwer to the extraordinary Letter publifhedin his Name at the End of 'Mr.Dobbs'% Reply, will ferve for one to all that Man of Cha- racter, who, like Mr. Dobbs^ will facrifice every thing to the great Regard he has for the Truth has advanced to prejudice me : If this Tender- nefs of Confcience was not a Parade it certainly would redound greatly to his Honour j for he muft necelTarily have fuffered great Anguifh in being thus obliged to accufe the Man to whom alone he has more Obligations than to all the World befide: But, as much as this would exalt his C! aradler, if, on the other Hand, it is proved that his Accuflitions are falfe, that he is no more than a Stentorophonic Tube to ano- ther, either for prefent Advantage or Hopes of future Preferment, in the fame Degree muH: it afFe(5t and fink his Reputation, by fixing on him the indelible Stain of the mofi: ungrateful, con- fequently, the word of Men. I have hitherto had a tender Regard for, and was unwilling to expofc Mr. Moor j but fince he has pufhed Matters to fo great a Length, that either he or I muil incur a public Cenfure ; notwithftanding our Nearnefs in Blood, it is na- ... ^ ^nnili . tural :u w. ■■ei •'i cwill lie to :s not •affage 3f my as I Letter •Cha- every Truth ender- rtainly for he jifh in whom all the would nd, it hat he ano- mes of iull it )n him coii- , and fince ingth, ifure ; is na- tural [ "I ] tural to think I fhall have a Regard to myfelf and Family prior to that or jlny Confideration. The Letter publiilied in his Name is, evi- dently, not of his Writing ; and I am fo far willing to excufe him as to believe he durfl not, after having gone the Length he has, rpfufe his Name to any thing which he was ordered to iign or father : When once Men are drawn in to be Accomplices in unjuftifiable Deligns or Adlions, they become the Slaves of fuch as had the Addrefs to engage them j they muft then either from a falfe Shame of retrading and ac- knowledging their Guilt, or from a Fear of lofing their promifed Reward, go thro' Stitch, by being entirely fubfervient to their Patron's Dilates. We may here apply what the Poet fays of Rebels to fuch unguarded Men, who are weak enough to think they can retire when they pleafe, and do not at firft propofe to go the Lengths which afterwards they find them- felves obliged to go to prevent Detedion : Rebehy like Witches, when they have JigrCd the ' Rolls, ' ' Miijl Jlrve their Majlcr, tho' they damn their Souls, ' , Nay, farther, I am willing to believe that he did not think, when he was firft drawn in, that my Bread and Reputation would be both ftruck at, or that I fliould have been perfecuted with the Virulency and Inveteracy too evident in Mr, Dobbs^ Writings j he might flatter himielf R witt _j^ '- '— [ 122 ] with advancing his own Fortune without greatly hurting me, and I muft acknowledge that neither he nor his Patron has done me much Injury with Men who have the Patience to hear and the Capacity to judge both Parties, for with fuch I fland re6lm in Curia : What I faid of one Crime leading to another is a natu- ral Confequence too well known, which (hews that we ought to be upon our Guard againft Temptations, and avoid perpetrating the lead thing which our Confcience tells us is not jufli- fiable, as the Pi;overb fays. Nemo repenti nequif- Jimus, that is, Vice gains Ground by flow Gra- dations. Thus much I have faid from the Concern, the Uneafinefs I have upon me in be- ing obliged to expofe the Man whom I have brought up, as my Child, from the Age of 12 or 14 ; and tho* he cannot avoid the Imputation of Ingratitude, yet, I hope, when it is confider'd that he is got into the Hands of a Man of equal Art and Intereft, fome Grains of Allowance may be given to his Youth and Inexperience. His Letter is addrefs'd to Mr. Dobbs^ and be- gins with a Requeft that he will infert in it his Anfwer to my Rhapfody of Forgery Detected , I underftiind this to be a Favour which Arthur Dgbbs, Efq; aiks of my Antagonifl ; the Word Rhapfody plainly fhevv^s 'tis not Mr. Moor's, I queftion if he knows what it means, j,, v i/d '- After this Addrefs, which is by Way of In- trodudion, he fays that I have made fome Re- marks upon his Anfwers to Queries fent him \)j the Lords of the Admiralty, and to the firll <urrel, C'2S] Tbe fi'cona Letter to Capt, Middleto!*. ^ SIR, ir-5 a (1 1.1 '?'(•■>< »•.»■> I Cannot refufe you the Liberty of printing my Letter of January the i8th, 1743, fince you think my Teftimony will be of Ser- vice to you, as I think you have been very bafcly, tho' very undefervedly, treated: The Reafon I was averfe to it is that I am and ever was tender of my Neighbour's Reputation ; — that Letter mufl neceflarily expofe Mr. Moor's Ignorance, with regard to the Whales and Tides in Hudfon's-Straits^ and to the Diilance be- •.tween Salijbury'ljland and the North-Main; but 'tis poffible what is publifhed under Mr. Moor's Name may be more juftly attributed to, the great Searcher after Truth, the worthy Mr. Dobbs of Cajile-Dobhsy who is lefs welcome to, than he has been free with, my Chara(5ter in his printed Works. Mr. Moor fays he ihew'd his Anfwer to the Queries, lent from the Lords of the Admiralty, to two of our Commanders, who told him he had anfwered them very juftly ; if 'tis true that he did fo, it muft have been to the two Fowlers, and they could hardly be termed Commanders in our Service, as they never had been fo 'till within a few Weeks before they lailed, the' very good Seamen, and I dare venture to aiTert ■ for them they never did give Mr. Moor fuch an '.' Aniwer, [ 136 ] * ** Anfwcr, and I dare take upon mc to fay, that, from their Experience, they could not. 1 find that you miftake my Meaning with nlntion to d^/Zf/Vz Whales; they are of the black Kn.vf as well as thofe of Greenland^ but much fmaiier, and their Bone feldom exceeds the L iii^th of 8 Foot, and is not by a fourth Part fo valuable as the Greenland Bone, as you may be uiformed by the Wiiale-bone Merchants. I traded for fome of that Sort of Bone with the EJkimaux this Year, off of the Middle of the Eaft-Side of the Ifland of Mansfield^ 'n my PafTage home j it was fre/h caught, with the Gum and Flefh adhering to the Bone, whence it is not to be doubted that there are Whales in the Bay, tho' I never faw any, as I told you in my former Letter. I am apt to believe, that they chiefly keep in Shores and Bays, both in the Straits, the E. and the W. Main, where we never go with our Ships. I am^ jiR, Jdareh the 5th« »744- Tour verj humble Servant ^ Geo. Spurrel, Next Mr. Moor fays, or it is fiid for him, that he knows very well, and fo do I, if my con- Jummate Modejiy would let me own it, that in the Month of July the Ice is drove (driven) from that Coaft to the Eaflward by the great Frefiies ., .^ . . [ "7 ] . , Frc(hes and ftrong * rapid Tides which are fup- pofed -(• to come through the broken Lands, that have hitherto appeared 4: to be only Iflands. This jefuitical Way of Writing, and the Politenefs of the Didion, I think fairly point out the Author : What Coaft is here meant by that Coaji? and in what Latitude is it that the Ice is driven from it ? If he means at Churchill in the Latitude of 59, I admit the Rivers are there clear by the ill of July, the time wc fail'd from thence ; but what is that to 6 or 7 Degrees more to the Northward as wc were in ^i:its out the Letter Writer by the Blunder. How can our keeping a fair Offing, give ns an Opportunity to afilire ourfclvcs there was no Ice in Inlets or Openings, but he knows the mod of his Readers are Landmen^ or fuch as know nothing of thcfc Icy Voy- ages. We were not nearer to the Shore than 6 or 7 Leagues, except two Places, till wc came to the Northward of 64; and our hav- ing no Ice in the fair Offing, is a Proof that it was not broken up in the Inlets and Rivers, as all Ice comes from the Shores, Rivers, Bays and Inlets. The Letter fays again, this is confirmed by the Company's Sloop, which goes annually from Churchill to Whale cove. What is this and the reft of the Paragraph more than Duft? Whale cove is in 6i^ if Lat. which is a fufficicnt Anfwer. . -/ The Letter fays, that Mr. Moor avers he hove the Log, and the Ship ran by it iix Knots, tho' at the fame time ("he fell aftcrn by the Land. We have here only Mr. Moor\ Word, which I fhall prove is an Aflcrtion contrary to Fad, and I obferve he docs not fay with whatTidq he fell aftcrn: Firft I fhall fhew what his Jour- nal fays. " J^ly-i Tucfday 13, we were *' forced to run before the Wind right up the Opening, the Ice coming after us with the rapid Tide and Wind, and Capt. Middle- " ton out of Sight, we had got the Weft Side " of the Opening, S. S. E. and Eaft Side E. y K.E. Diftant each about fix Miles, before ** that « ., » iVn" ■^'-.fxSf '/»4- C^ I '37 1 ty-fcvcn Miles of four fiv^ and dfty taken ofFj and 'tis evident they faw from the Place of Qbfervation, nine I eagiies on either Hand j but if they could fee at the Diftancc of twen^ ty fcven ^liles from a high Mountain, it does not from thence follpw, that Mr. Moar could fee half thirty, or even half of that, in a Boat which was neither a Mountain ' nor a Maft- head. /^ ' .u As to Mr. liCndricks bringing in a third Bottle of Water, we have only Mr. Mofir's Word for it, which is contradi(fled by Mr. Gill, ^c, P, 128. I fhall here copy his own Words, and then confute him : His firft Para- graph runs thus, " In Confirmation of my " Anfwcr to the i fth Query, I do averr that " there is a Channel between Cz^c Frigid " and the Low Be^ch, which indeed Capt. ** Middleton might not fee, becaufe he was " alhore when the Tide fet us into it, for we were fo near driving through, that we made all ready to anchor, having little Wind; " and inftead of being twenty-feven Miles ** diftant, we were within lefs than a Mile of " the Low Beach ^ then the Point bore W. " N. W. diftant about eight or nine Miles." >To (hew the Falfity of this 5 he fays he was near driving through the Channel abovcmcn- tioned, having but little Wind, and brought the Low Beach Point to bear W. N. W. dif- tant about eight or nine Miles j wherefore, we Ihall now (hew what his two Journals fay, at the Time I was aihorc at Cape Frigid, T In « it [138] In his original Journal, which he has acknow- ledged to be jfo, are the foUowini; Vords. " Auguft the 7th at 1 1 in the Forenoon, '* the Furnaces Boat went on Shore 5 at 12 '* at Noon, we brought to, in Company with ** her and recft Fore-topfail and Main-top- *' fail. Set the Land from N. N. W. to S. by *:' E. off the N. Shore *." Auguft, Sunday riie 8th, Frcfh Gales, lying too with our Courfes hauled up and Top-gal- lant Sails handed. At 4- pad i made Sail f, the Furnace^ Boat returned with Gapt. Mid^ dleton who was afhore in her, tacked 4 times to come up with the Furnace. Now let us fee how he has amended this in his new cooked up Journal, by the help of my Log journal, fmce it was publifhed. Augufty Saturday the 7th. ** At 11 A.M. *' Capt. Middleton went alhore upon a Bluff ^* Point of Land, E. by N. from us, diftant ^' about 5 Leagues. At Noon the Low Beach <* bore S. by E. and Cape Hope N. N. W. *' lying too and waiting for the Boat. Here *' the IVelcome is 14 Leagues over. The Weft *' Shore very high bold Land feemingly. ^ * • Aiigufl, Sunday the 8th, " Frefh Gales and *^' fine Weather for Capt. Middleton^ Boat " returning ^rom the Shore. At 4 'P. M, the ^* outermoft Part of the Low Beach bore " S. W. by W. diftant f Leagues i the cx- 'f tream Part of the other Shore bore W. by - * The ncfireft Lpd at Npoij in Sight, bore E. by S, djftant four Leagues. ,.----,-■.- ^ , Ai- rj- The ne^reft Land in Sight, tore S. by W. dift. 5 Leagues « i-*' ..',i.- h -:,-- ^^^ CO • • • • to Q OO 4^ M Oi c •1^ N> Oo o •t o o o ^ fV c/: ^.-/» ^ Oi CM VO a O •{^ (>^ 4^ O il s s .3 a 3 • • • / • 3 ON C\ On ON tJ U3 tX) -^ •TS o o o o r-i^ 4^ »-« ^ to 4». "VI c: o o o o "t ■ m ta O^ f Ji •- oo oo O O S ^ S S o &} o o On On C\ 0\ to oo 4^ 4^ HH o^ o o o L^ 4>- '-' G O r» oo o vr o • O O I* (/> O > >^ M ^^ 10 M CO CO CO CO ^ ' • • • no M oo oooo p o o o o 2^ nJ M VO OOOO ON 3 S S =* M 0(-H ON On ON On to Oo 4^ 4». oooo 4^ •-• O O oo O O *^ rp o > t^s CA rt vo vo 00 oo *-i O 00 ON o O 4^ K> -< O oo l. M < ^' H-. ^ 00 oo 00 so o o O I— • r-r •^ M •-< M OONO O ^vl Oq > S- S a P t^ c O rt f •" 2 rt f^ I---) 1^ f^ )i O O ** 2! S- ^ ^.s. -■■„ 25 (38 w ^ s: s e. to \x> M W ft! tu r-r "r* vO "-n O ^ oo>vj o O O Ui 4^ »- ^ ON O ^ <^ ^ r. ^ a- &" tr ft a. ClT! r n3 s; b u> *^ p o Q g- en t3 ^ s-.*: a- 3 ^ w w» r* " O . >* M M The r «44 1 The Ifland oiBrook-'Cokbam is in Latitude 63% and Longitude, from the Meridian of Londoriy 91** 43' W. all of hard white MarWe^-Stone j, it is about 3 Leagues from the W« Main ; its Length 7 Leagues N. W, by W. and S. E. by E. by Compafs ; its Breadth 3 Leagues in the broadeft Part. It is evident frpm theie different Journals of Mr. Moor's two and /w/«^, that Capt. SpurteU was rightly informed with regard to his, Mr. Moor'Sy Vigilance, and to his Skilly asto keeping a Journal, and plainly (hews his Capacity to call me to an Account upon the Affair of the Search, and about my dictating all Officers Journal agreeable to my own j for his blunder- ing Work has proved, and the Sequel will corroborate that he was not able to judge of the Difference of Journals, tho* now he is ca- pable of finding a PafTage in Nubibus, But *» Let us here, to prevent Trouble to my Readers, make fome Obfervations upon thefe Journals of our expert Artifl, from the begin- ning of our Search, which was off Cape Ful" lerton iii uur Return to Brook-Cohham ; and we fhali find thai' the Journals * newly compofed or patched up with Part of my printed Journal, '■'■ with Deiign to fet us farther off Shore, has by his Want of Skill, not Want of carry'd - him feveral Leagues up into the Country, by . which he has furpafTed the Ingenuity of the > Cbinefe JVind-Waggons^ for they have the Ad- ^. ;, . - . M vantage * This was given in to the Lords pf the AdquncJty aboTe a Yeai; after our Arrival and my journal printed. f 145 3 Vantage of Wheels, which the Difco'uery had not. On the I otlii of Aiigufl^ that Day's Work in the Latitude of 64°, and in Company with the Furnace, he has put down Longitude 90° 10'; in that Day's Obfervation it is fet down in his Journal 4 or 5 Leagues from the Land : Now all Latitudes and Longitudes are {tt down at Noon, we were by my Journal, at the fame time in or near the fame, and Longitude %^'i* 53'. So, by his Account, at the very time he was in Company with me, he was 1° ij to the Weftward of me, which carries him fomc Leagues upon the Land, at the time he was endeavouring to fet us from it by his falfe Ac- count of his Longitude and Diftance. In the 1 1 th Day's Work his Longitude was 91° 19', my Longitude was then 90° 25', by which he was near 8 ^ :agues to the Wellward of me, (tho' at the lame time both Ships in Company) we were then 4 T cagues from the Land, both by his and my Account, c )nfe- quently, he mull be upon the Head-Land ne r ()X^ 20', and 4 Leagues up the Country. On the J 2th his new-modelial Journal in our Return witliin 4 or 5 Leagues of the Land, a ^'ttle to the Southward oi Brook-Cobbiun, agr^ ^ ith my Longitude within 5 Mile^ ; but look into his real Journal, which he kept on board theZ)//- iovery, and it will appear tliat he n^.akes Brook- Cobham 1 4 Leagues to the Eaihvard of the true Meridian : But as a futhcr convincing Proof of this Spark's Capacity to keep a Journal, and ' U tlie [ 146 ] the NecefTity of keeping'clofe under my Wing is his Longitude of the 3d of ^July (but 3 Days out of Churchill^ and mofl of the Time the Wind fair) when he was 5 or 6 Miles from Brook- Cobham^ the Longitude, in both iiis Journals, is 93° 38', in coming back in his real Journal near the fame Bearing and Diftance from the afore- faid Ifland, his Longitude is 90° 6' ; fo that there is only thisfmallMiftakeof 3*^ 32'. which does amount to no more than one or two-and-thirty Leagues. ■ " ' .. ' 'Tis evident that hisLongitude in coming back, viz, 91° 48', which is in his new-model'd Journal, is taken from mine, and the Difference he has made between us of 5 Miles is to con- ceal the Theft, as he has done in other Places with regard to Bearings and Diftances of Land, with the fame View : But, with all this great Art, he has produced but a very bunghng Piece of Work, for he has, by being a thorough Artift, made Brook-Cohharii about 16 or 17 Leagues more to the WY^llward in his outward-bound Pafllige than in h^s Return. I think it is apparent that the honefl Man's Dcfign was to fet us as many Leagues off the Land as he has run in upon it, and as he has found out tills Art, he is the moil proper Man to be fent upon the Difcovery of a Palfage to the Wcflern American Ocean, for 'tis evident by his Longitude that he failed moft Part of the Way from the Frozen Straits to Brook-Cobham over Land, wliich makes it a little furprizing that ^* .n s the has iVIan the by the ham zing that . [ H7 ] that in P. 128 he fhould " appeal to the whole " Ship's Company whether we \ ere frequently " near enough that Shore to difcern Illands " from main Land." But another Reafon why lie is the moft proper Perfon is, that, upon Oc- cafion, he can widen a Strait ; for 'tis remark- able by his Journal kept on board the Difcoveryy that on Wednefday the 4th of uiugtijl^ in the New-Straits outward-bound, in Latitude 65° 52', Longitude 86° 41'. In our Return back in Latitude 65° 45', and Longitude 84° 4', he makes a Difference of 2° 37', tho' we went and returned within a League or two of the fame Tradt : Tho' he makes a Difference of above 20 Leagues, and as that Part of the Straits is not above 10 Leagues wide, 'tis evident he either widened the Straits i o Leagues more, or failed over the greater Part of the Low-Beach. Now 'tis obfervable by my printed Log on the fame Days in that Latitude, I made but 8 Miles Difference of Longitude in going out and com- ing home, in which Latitude there is not above the Space of three Miles ; but he was here refolved to get far enougli from the Wef- tern Shore. " ' ' Now to be ferious, this is the able Man who is to go upon new Difcoveries ; this is he who tells his Readers that 'tis hard that he ihould not be thoughtcapable in twice fevcn YearsExperience in thofe Northern Seas, which fliould, as one would think, be time fufficient to have intruded him unlefs lie was a ilupid Log, as I in my fantailic U 2 V'ifions [ H" ] , Vifions of Knowledge imagln'd him and his fellow Labourers, as I fuppofe he means by the uiing the! Plural Number. This is he whole KnowJv^dge in Sea-Affairs is to invalidate my Journal, and, in a Word, to prove by his fupe- rior Skill my Roguery^ and expofe all my Arti- fice ; this is the Man who prefers Truth to every Refpe6r, whom neither Ties of Blood nor Gratitude can prevail to flem her facred Di(flates ? and who makes a Parade of his In- tegrity and Knowledge, when at the fame time he is guilty of the greatefl Falfities and manifeft Blunders, .... , . POSTSCRIPT. MR. Moor^ or the Letter-Writer, has taxed me with having defired him to copy my Journal, and alleges a very filly Reafon in my Name for my having made fuch an Attempt upon his Probity : I poflponed an Anfwer to it that Mr. Moor might give one himfelf in his Letter dated from Bunitcffs^ May the 13th, ly^T,' Tlie Reader may obfcive that I was fo far from endeavouring to prevail on him to take a Copy of my Journal, that he defires I would fend him Extracts from mine : Ilis Letter is as follows 5 .f^ :. '% II s IR,' [ »49 ] « SIR, I Am not a little furprized to hear ^at the Doufor and JVygate have taken Oath, that it is their Opinion, that there is a Paf- • fage thro' the River IVager^ as I underftand • by my Brother's telling of me, not that I ; have yet feen his Letter, only hearing that they intend to make what Difturbance they can imagine, therefore I thought proper to ' tell you, iince running over another Copy of my Journal j and if you think fit only to ' fend me an Account what you have made the Tide to rile and fall in the River, and amongft the Iflands when you was laft afhore, and at Brook-Cobhaniy what Moon makes High- Water, and the Difference of thefe Places from Churchill ; thefe things it would be neceflary that they fhould agree with yours, as you have them in your Account, " 7 am^ Sir, . / " With the greateft Concern ^ &c. " Wm. Moor. Whence 'tis evident (as I was lall afhore at Cape Frigid) that I did not tell him as Mr. Dobbs fiys, that it was high Water at Cape Frigid the 8th of Aiigufiy at 1 1 at Night. -. ;, .>;, , , This Letter requires no farther Comment : A Letter I received from himthey^nVbefore, dated Friday the 27th, 1743, contains this Faffage, What either Dotlor, ThompfoHy or Wygate, . >' .; ' " can it «.. i^^^'i tUat • /. /. The Lieutenant. [ >St ] that Mr. ^ohbs has wilfully, deliberately, charged mc with what he knows to be falfe, at leaft docs not, cannot, know to be a Truth. I have given an Anfvver to, and proved the rea- lity of, the Frozen Straits, as to what relates to the Tide in the Wellcome, it's rifing at T>eer Sound, ^c. I have evinced his manner of preva- ricating ; 1 have given a minute Account of the Heights of the Tide, from the Refolution quite to the fVefl-Maijiy and proved the Dirci^ion is from the Eaftward, -fyfC. 1 have takea Notice of Guy's Affidavit; fhewn the Abfur- dity of Mr. IDobbss Suppofition, as to the winter- ing of the Northern Indians j I have fhewn Mr. ^obbs's Vanity and Modefty, in fetting up his own Word againft a folemn Affidavit, and ia attefting the Lords of the Admiralty to what has been fworn, a Fiflion of his own; and plainly made appear his grofs Ignorance or malevolent low Cunning, to impofe on his Readers. In p. 2p, and Sequel to p. 48. I have anfwered what he fays with Relation to the Council and Mr. Moor--, 1 have Ihcwn that, he contracids himfclf; I have fhewn that no Openings arc along Shore, that from Cape Fulkrton and Whale-bone Point it is all conti- guous, and that Mr. T)obbs inipofes on his Readers, with regard to the Weather, and his Endeavours to confound them by his blunder- ing ; and have catched Mr. 'Dobbs ftrongly proving for mc, no doubt by his Inadverten- cy, the Forgery in the VVafte Log-Book, where the Figures 2 and 3, are altered to 7 and 8$ .... -*.,.■ i .and [ »52 ] And I have taken notice of other manitcft In- fcrtions and Alterations. I iiave evinced, that he himfelf proves his Wcftcru Flood comes from the Eaft, near Brook Cobham by his Logg ; and by Satchell's Oath 1 have pro- Tcd Mr. Rankin's Opening a Fidion, and by Reafon, impoilible to be otherwifc. 1 have brought an incontcftable Proof, from Norton's and the Indians Travels, that the Shore is ail contiguous, beyond the Iflands among which Whale-Cove lies, as well as from thofe I faw on vShorej and anfwered his Query, How I could affirm that II was lined with Ice with- in Marble I (land? I have proved he has a wrong Notion of the freezing in thofe Nor- thern Latitudes or wilfully conceals it j throws Duft in the Readers Eyes, and has dealt very difingenuoufly (of which he was before detedled) by dropping Part of what I faid, and endeavouring to palm upon the Public, a Suppofition for a Fatl 5 I have demonftratec. that his Cloud of VVitnefles to prove the Salt ncfs of the Water all vanifhed, that he has not one who is pofitive, and that the two doubtful he allows me, to prove thcFreQinefs of thcWa ter, arife to 12 pofitivc ones. In p. 49 to p. 74 inclufive, I have refuted his falle Aflcr- tions, and his repeated Charge, of threatening the Surgeon J fhewn the Improbability ot Moors offering to take Care of the Indians } have juftified Guy, and 1 hope dcmonllratcd that he has not fworn too much : Have given a Reafon why Guy and Towns Iwear in the fame Words, and evinced that Mr, 'Dol^h is a great [ »53 ] a great Cavilcr, and again replied to the Charge of the Indians-^ if ^Dobbs could prevail oa himfelf to think it pofllble, a Perfon in the Hudfons Bay Service may fometimes fpeak Truth, in an Affair quite indifferent to him and the Company, I have direded him to one who can fatisfy him with regard to tliofe In- dianSy for whom this humane Gentleman is i^o deeply concerned. 1 have (hewn the Cha- rader his WitnelTes bear, and Mr. ^obbs's Induftry to gain over Guy, whom he has tax'd with Perjury. But who docs this good, this charitable, Chriflian fpare? There is a ftrange Contrariety in his Compofition; he has no Mercy on any Man's Reputation, and the Per- fon who contradifts him, is fure to have his good Name, more valuable than Life, inhuman- ly (tabbed. At the fame time he is under the greateft Concern for the Welfare of two JjtdianSj and no Proofs of their being fafe, can remove his Anxiety. I have given Mr. T^obbs an Anfwer to the Tide's coming from the Eaft ward, as (worn by G«/, and have inftrucled him how to try the Tides, by which 1 hope his Capr. Moor will reap lome Advan- tage. I have proved what Guy has fworn to be adual Truth, and (hewn the worthy Mr. Moor's corrupt Endeavours, to take off one of my Witnefl'es, or rather to make him give Evidence againft me, the Truth, and his own Affidavit. 1 think 1 have lain open the true Caufc of Mr. *T>obbs% great Induftry, to have another (at Icaft pretended) Trial, and evinced X the '■§■ [ 154 ] the impoflibility of difcovering a navigable Pafl'agc, and his fhameful manner of fuppofing or taking one Falfity for granted, that it may prop another, which he cannot vindicate. •My Amanuenfis has left out the following Paragraph, which muft follow in P. 73. • " " I fhould be very glad to hear that you were employed in fome way fatisfadory to you by the Publick, which you have fo' juft a Right to, after having quitted the Company's Service in order to ferve the Publick i and wifh it were in my Power to contribute to it, I (hould do it with great Pleafurc, and would go over upon that very Account, if it could be of Advantage: In the mean Time, 1 wifh you all Happinefs, and hope to hear from you, being with great Eftecm," Tour mo ft Obliged^ and obedient humble Ser^uanty Dublin, Dec. 14, 1742. Arthur Dobbs. In p. 7^, to p. 92 inclufive, I have refuted his curfory Obfcrvations, by (hewing fuch im« pofliblej have given him an Account of the Tidci have evinced that Carey's Swans Nejt is in its dired Courfe, and plainly Ihewn what a Straw he has lain hold on in his dirty Ice. I have (hewn that Fox found the Flood Tide from the S. E. and ran three Miles "an Hour near the frozen Straits; I have expofed his m- • - * -A- Preva- /■ /' [^55] Prevarications and Jcfuitical Rcfervations, with Relation to Moor's and his Corrcfpondcncci I ^havc made appear Mr. ^obbs's Ignorance, his impoitng, or at Icafl: endeavouring to im- pofe, upon [lis Readers, and incontcftably proved the Tide from the Eaftward; the Con- trndidions of his Witnefles, and the auk ward (huffling Manner he tries to get off from what he cannot deny. P. 92 to 104, inclufive, I have again fct his Blunders, which prove his Ignorance of Tides, in a fair Light, and (hewn that what he admits in one Place, he con- tradicts in another i have overfet his pro- grellive Motion, and demonftrated the Falfity advanced by Moor ; and taken notice of Mr. ^ohbs's giving no categorical Anfwer to my having charged him or his Agents, as Author or Authors of the anonymous Letter; m the laft Page and Sequel, he brings a very lame, as 'tis vifibly a very idle Excufe, for the Silence of his Witneffes, which I have thoroughly refuted; and in p. 108, 109, fhewn the fur- prizing Modefty of Mr. ^obbs, in taxing mc with lbi(lin£[ Words into a Letter. Li a Word, I have proved that through-out his Work, a remarkable Difmgenuity, and all the low Arts of ihuffling, prevaricating, dif- guifing, perverting, inventing, fupprefling, falfely recriminating, unfair, fophiftical Con- clufions, from imaginary Premifes; that, I fay, all thefe Concomitants, thefe Charade- rifticks of a bad Caufe, have been put in Ufe, to overwhelm and bear down the Truth, and to ri56] to carry on Views, which I fear will hardly bear the Li^ht. Having done with, and take a my Leave of Mr. T>obbs in p. 120, 1 have in the following Pages made feme Rcmarki on Capr. Aloor's Letter, which fccms to me a Shaft out of the fame Quiver 5 for 'tis fcurri- lous, betrays Ignorance, is replete with Falfi- lies, nay ft;ch as are too grofs to impofc on any Seaman, whomuft, at firft Sight, di (cover the Impollibility of his Fads being true:: Mr, Moor has forced me to expofe him, and to lliew that he was not much mote able to dc- ted my Roguery (to make Ufe of Mr. Dohhs's polite Term) than his Fellow Labourer.'), PPy- gilt By Thofnpfon, and Rankim 1 have given the Character he bore while he wa.s in the Hudjbns Bay Service, which fpeaks him both ignorant and indolent ; and, from his own Let- ter, I have (hewn that he has advanced an cvir dent Untruch, in charging me with having endeavoured to prevail on him to take a Co- py of my |ournal. In fhort, i have evinced, that he is neither capable nor dcferviiig of a Commaau, ui\iefs ImpudeucCj, the blacked Ingratitude, FalRty, Scumlity and Ignorance, are lecommcndatorv Qualifications. ■;.;■. F I N I s\ ••.:) f '- ' ' " • Th? R.eader is ucnrcd to cxcufc anJ corrtT: thefe and fonn" other Erron of the PnTK, P. 24. 1. f\, for to 1:5 r. JO cr 15. jj. (^L I 7. .'■ r //.•'/ r. f^t/i, p._ 74. 1. x9. for Tide "flnving thre- Knots fr«m the; Kafl^^vflr(^ v. thf TUe of FlorKJ connng i; >-cp. Knots av.d riilf iVom tlio Hnrtwan.^, p. 84. (. 24, tor their r. the, F- Ss'- !. Ift. *'or they r th-.rr, p. 90. in the taft t- for to Sionk-Cnth'jnt r, ano w Brooh-Cobhiim, p. .5C«, \. 23. for tile Sea r. the S«» VAMh\, p. oj. 1. +. r. are not of m«vu Weight. vr •^"^^r^-ivnvi m ■A a oi" <>d