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"SSSm i>acinwr(h oI A^sunilily, til It liio ji)iiil adclnjss refi ncd to r-aiiiio he fmnil: but il'at this docuni 'nt appcs unnfccv- saiy ;o cstalihsh iiiidor wlios« rliar,'<' thu ilf- scivps wore plciced, as ilio snh.stinio of tho ud- dr(is>; is qiKUcd in thw Dulie of Portluid's D/'s- p I'd), and iho intention oi" His J\l;ijos(v cnniniu- nicaied to anilioiizo the Gov<^rnor in Council to 8v't apart a poriion of the Crown Lands lowiirds tiic fi)iniaiion of a school fiiml "out of wliich Ills M ijesty ''lay allot such salaries us he shall judge proper." The reports of the Exocn'ivo Council on this sid)jfict are annox<'fi ; on the frainiiifi of which it will 1)0 perceived the Jiidccs and Law Olficers of tho Ciown were consulted. The document No. 1. referred to in the letter of the 13t!i of iNliv ISiS, !» an exirict of Sir Peiegrine M lilland's despatch respecting school lands and the orirani/ntion of Sciiools. And the document No. 2 leforred to h.is been l;ud he- for(» the House. It is an Extract from Lord 13;'- thiirst's despatch, in answer to ti>e suggestions of Sir Peregrine iM.iitland. The account of the board of Education fotlie end of tho year 182;) including the expense of collodion of procei-ds of stia of scliocd lands and their application, has been laid before tiie Il'tuse of Assembly at the 1 ist session. Tlie de- taded account of tho number of acres sold in e ich Township and the* account of tl'« Board to the end of 1830 shall be forwarded to the House. The Lieutemmt Governor acqu intsthe Himisq th It th ' arrangements for the endowment of ho Upper Canada College are 'not yet (onipleted; and that ho has suL'sresicd the oxprdieucy of di- vidins; and exch tnging part of ilie land of the school townships for the 'jUirposc of raising tho value of ihu school lots, and tninsjci iin8. H iving roccivod directions from the Duke of Poitland one of [lis Majes,)V. piiiii ipal 6e- cieiant'8 of Sl.ue, lo c 'nsuli die menibeiS of His INI jes;y's Executive (Jouncil and liie Jii(if.ies and Law Offni-is ol' ihi; Ciown in Upj:ei <.■■■• nada, and ivport to His Grace in what nianmr, and to wh It ex eiit a poriion of the waste lairls of the crown iniy be .ipprojirinttru and render' d produc.ive lowaids the forma ion of a fuiid for tho esta' lishment of f"iec Graniinir Schoo . in those districts in which they aic called for, and in due process of lime by establishing other se- minaries of a lurirer and nio'e coinprtdiensive tiature for the pi omotion of religious -md mo; al ieaininir, andihe s'udy ofthe ^r's and sciences, • ut of wliich His Majesiy may according to hit, p1ea.» sure allot suth s liirii s as he shall judge pr-fii r for the school masters of such free schools v. ho lire to be appointed by His M;!jesty's (Tovcinor, or ihe person admitiisiering his Alnjesty's Govetn- nieni subject to His Majisly's approbaiion.. I arn to request you will be pleased to meet the Chief Jiisiice, -nd the members of His Ma- jesi}'s Exti'Ciitive Council al the Council Cli m- ber on Friday the ninth instant, for the puipcse of t;iking the above sid.ji.'Ct into your consider- itiorv, and r(!portinu to mi- your ojiinicnis therc(»n, tlpii I mny traiisn)it them to the Diike of Port- land for His IMajesty's informaiiour I have the honor to be Sir, Your most obedient llumblt- Seivant (Signed) PETEil iiUSSELL. ^ DOCUMCNTS RELATIVE TO COPY, in this I'rovinco, nnd tlio samo bavlnt; roc«?ivcil _, „, . ^ , ,. t V .• -r .1 „ !.«„.. 1 the iipnrolmtidii of till' Picsulcnt in ('oinuil, it Tie Chief J iistire by direction 01 llio board •' , .i . .i •, . , ,• ■ i ,, ; i * , ' ,, . . •',, . ,,. II ,i.„ w.is oiieretl, lint tlin lleport lio l.miy co )ic«i, wroto thd f'jllowing luttcr to lIis Honor iho ,,..,. ,'. ,'...., ,.,:'.. .,.' n:' president, ihiitit may ho trinsinittofl without dchiy to His Gr.ico tli(! Diiico of Poniand fur the information of His lMaj»;s:y. Tiic Roi>ort is as follows : Council Chamhe.r, November 10///, 179S. Sir, The Committon on His Grace tlio Diiko of Porllamrs letter on tho subject of schools, di- rect mu to (Miquirc of your honor, whetiierlt is Sin, \sl. Dec. 1798. your pleasure that wo slmuld, <-ach of us report j ,^.^^,^ „^^ ,,^^^^^^. ^^^ .^^^^^^.^^^ ^,^^, „,.^^ .„ u. opinion separately, or uhetherthe Channr.n ^i,^,,;,,,,,^ ,„ . ,,^^,^.,. ,,,. ,,,^. ^-y^ „„;„, „,„ IS to report to yon, a plan agreed upon oy us all. -^ ^ I have tho honor to bo Sir, Your most obedient ilunible Servant (Signed) J. ELMSLEV, c. j. To his honor the Presidenf, i^-c. ^'c. luemhers of His Majcsiy's I^xeculive Council, thoJuiltres, and till! Law (jflicers of thr Ciown met tan((iluT in this place on liii; nineteen h ul-. tiino and on several oe^nsions sliui', niid took into liicir coiisi'loration the letter of His Graco liio Duico of Porllind on the I'stabli^hmcm of Graninnr schools and other places of Education in the Province. It is not to bo expected that on a snbjec' of such extent, the opinions of so many persons as were nssenililed to consider et' it siioiild exactly coincide. I have, however, the sitisfaction to Sir, York, V2ih Nov. 1798. I liavc had the honor to receive your letter of Saturday desiring to know whether the members of tho committee on His Grace t!ie Duke of to say ihtit in our pern ral views of the system Portland's letter on tho sultject of schools are to be adopted we arc nearly agieed, and that to report their opinion separately, or whether the dilTercnce with resjiect to tl:;' mole in which tho Chairman is to report the plan agreed upon jt is to be carried into effect is not very consid- by them all. In answer to which I can only crable. have the honor to say, that in my opinion a r<'' poit from the ckairman of the plan unar»iinously a"rce(^ upon would be less troublesome both to the Conuijittee and His Grace, and would pro- bably llirow equal if not more liu;ht upon tiie subje.ct than tho opinions of the members siatod separately, I shall therefore only request a gene- ral report signed by tho ch lirmm ; however I 4a not moan by this to preclude any of the gen-, of acres to he appropriated — 3. The put poses tlemen from favoring mc with their own senti- 'o which tho fund is to be applied — 4. The nuni- iTionts, in addition to the general advice, as I her of schools, and the places whtro they art? believe it is tho desire of His Majesty's minis- to be erected. As it was Your Honour's plcsnro that the chairman should collect the opinions of the se- veral moinbers of the board and digest them in- to one re|)ort, 1 took the liberty of distributing the subject into the five following heads, and of requesting their tiiotights on et'ch, viz : 1. Tho sum to be raised — L'. The number ters to obtain all tho information possible on a subject of such import in,co to, tliG future welfare of this ProvincQ. I have &t. (Signed) PETER RUSSELL. To. the IJon'bh John Elmsky, C, J. COPY. Council Chamber at York, 1st December, 1793. 5. Tho number now necessary. It is now my duty to state to your honor tho general result of the whoje, and should I either misrepresent the sentiments of the Doard or fail to give them the ofl'cct they deserve, I trust that Your honour will impute the blame to me on- ly, and do justice to the several members by re- ferring to the opinion of each which I hav© subjoined by way of schedule. When the subject was first opened it seemed Head the report of the Board formed of the to be the unanimous opinion, that the intention members of His Majesty's Executive Council of the Royal Founder of the free Gramnar and the Judges and Law officers of tho Crown schools and University of Upper Canada conld in tapper Canada who were directed to take in- not be eflertuated but by a liberal provision for to their consideration the letter from His Grace tlcir establishment and maintenance: and each the Duke of Portland on tho Establishments of member of tho BoarJ seemed deeply impressed Grammar Schools and otherplaces of Education with a conviction that in making his estimate oil r V I V SCHOOL LANDS. 5 llio extent of that provision, it wouM bo much ;?nl. The sum of £30 per nnniim sf cms (a safer to allow ton much than too litiln ; for as be a sunicient wm foi k( 14,1111,' tlie biiilcimy 111 tho application of tlin fuiuls will nlways he di- rcpnir. The provision for liie purcliusu of looks, rccle'l by tho LoncfiC(Mit wisdom wliieli has I'liilosophical apparatus, &c. rciutrs to ihc m- croated it thn excess may at any timo bo applied dowmont of tiio ITnsvorsiiy ra'lior than to ili;it to other imrposi's, equally worthy of the ori-inal of the (Jiammer School, and is ordy montiouca ■ • ■ -> «- •■ that it may not appear to have boon forgotten ill our culculuiioii. intention, and rtpially condufivt. to tlio hippi jioss of tho Province; but it will he dill'uult and perhaps impossible if tho prcsunt moment bo ne |;l(ictedto find at a future period thu means o cftecting tlio oliject hcforo U3, without much ex pensc, and u delay almost subversive of the pur |)0se of It appeared therefore to be the pf neral opinion of the Board, that i' sum nut cxceedini' £3,000 Provincial Curioncy, ano an annual incomo of £180 will bo amply sufficient for tho establish- ment and support of a free (Jrammer School in Under this impression tho Board procpoded each District. The nvxt oliject was to consider to consider in detail the purposes to which tho the mode by which that sum and that income are proposed fund should when raised he applied, to be raised. """ * With respect to thu former, the board had bul one opinion ; viz: thai it can only be raised by (ho s do of part of tho w isie I inrls of tho down. If the instiiuiions in question are to ha defrircd until they can bo proviih'd fur from di<» annual income of any cpi uilily of Land that can and seemed to bo unanimous in thinking that they may bo reduced to three. 1st. Tho erection of tho necessary buildings. 2nd. Tho payment of tho salaries of the masters. 3rd. TIio kpeping oftlio buildings in repair, the purchase of Books, and IMiilosophicid ap be ap])ropriated for tlicm, they will be defeiied either until they have 'eon siipei ceded by oilier paratus, and olhor purposes essoi'tial to places ot inHtitulions, or until lur or five i.'eneration> of Education, but in general too costly to bo pro- ignoianco and vico have rendered ihem useloss. vided by individuals. 'f |,„ annual income must equally be derived Ist. With ivspoct to the sum to be expended from the waste lands of ihe Crown, and may, ia on tho erection of tho necessary buildings, tho ihc apprehension of the hoard, be raised by ono Board conceived that takinii; the average price oro.hcr of the four f(dlowiug modes. of labour in tho four Districts of tho Province j^^^ p ^j^^ ^,,1^. ^f ^^ ,^,„^.h ^j- ^^^^^^ jj,^^^ ^g the sura £3000 Provincial rurr-Muy wd bo suF- ^^..j, ^_^.^^ .^ ^^^^^^ ^^,,_i^.,, jf i„vj.g,^.,] j^ ,|,(, R./.-igh Ijcient to erect a plain but solid and substantial ^^^^,^ ^^^j,, .^^^j^...^. ^^^^ ^^^^^ of £l80, as interest. buildin<», containing a school room, sulhcient _ . ~ , to hold an hundred bovs witliout danger of their 2nd. By reserviuj: such a portion of those heahh from too many being crowd-d together ; lands as when leased wdl produce that sum as and also a sol of apartmenis for tho master large rents. enough not only for the ncconimodation of his 3rd. By appropriating to the same purpose family but also for the very desirablo purpose of such parts of i!ie present Crown reserves as are enabling him to take a few of his piii)ils as capable of yielding a present rent : or, Boarders, some few out buildings may also bo ^j,^^ jj^ geiijng a portion of the waste land* necessary for I'.io use ot' the master which if ihey ^^ ^i^^ Crown (always distinguishing between ' " ~ '"' "" "' waste lands of the Crown, and Crown, will not come witliin this estio'ate will not much exceed it and may easily be piovided for here- jifter. 2nd. As the extent of the salaries of tho mas- ters is expressly reserved for tho Royal consi- deration, we do not presume to mention any particular sum as suffirient for that purpose : but as it is necessary for i!K in making our esti- mate, to calculate upon some given sum, and as feserves) and laying out the produce in th© purchase of lands which from their quality^ local situation, or state of cultivation eiiher yield or may be made to yield a present rent^ On each of these modes, the Board begs leave to submit the following consideraiions : ^ ^ With respect to the first it observes, ihat be- His Excellency tho Lieut. Gove, nor ' thoui^ht sides the disadvantage of the daily decreasing the sum of £100 Provincial Currency a suffici- value of an inconio which is to bo applied 1« a ent allowance for the Master of the school erect- permanent puiposo and which arises from money, ed under his auspices at Kingston, we beg leave or is reserved in money ; it will require tho salo to take that sum as an average for the salary of of a quantity of land consideiably beyond any tho master of each school ami half of it for the that the board would veniure to mention, to raise salary of an under master in case it should be a sum which at the rate of five per cent, per an- (hought expedient to have one. mm would yield the sum of £180 as iaceiest.— DOCUMENTS UELATIVE TO For wo conrcivp it to !)o rrpnrrally ilioiifih |for- Irips not universiilly ti iic, ili ii whenever 1 mils in this country are rupahlo from qiialiiy, siiun- tion or !iny other rircnmstiuirp, ofyioldingii r«iit, tt «(\|)itil i.nd out in 'he piircliiise of tliosc liiniis is niu. h ino « productive than on lent at inicrcst on piiher private or pnllic seouriiy iinii lluro is this a hliiion il idv.int i!}:i; on tlio siih- of ihe for- ini'i', that hoiii the rial and llio noniind v iluo of rent will increase witli thu inrro ising prospcniy of llic cou:)try, wiii'o tlic real vilue of Int rest decreases witli the decreasinir vahie of nio.iey in a proportion lo wliich the increase of our proa- J»e iiy is not a counter hilance.. The Board th refore considers this mode of raising the in- come required, as wholly out of (ho ((uesiion. Of the rem lininsj throe modes the IJoi d con- siders tliat which proposes to provide the neces- sary incou)e, by reserving for the use of those ins itutions a rortnin portion of the wastelands of ihe Crown, nnd lensing them nt a Hack- Rent, as incompirahly the his; : both hecjuisr it islho chn ipest and because it leaves ihe fund of Crown Ri'si-rves from which the other public purposes of tiio Province may horeafior ho supplie ', un- touched, but it is certain that the p esen' circum- s( tnces of the province do not authorise us to expect much income from such a source, for Somi! years at least. It may therefore be necessa- rv to break in upon the Crown Reserves, and to appropriate such of them as arc now capable of viplding rent, to the present piu-|)ose ; and should the fund, even after this assistance, bo still inadequate, nothine; will remain but to recur to the fourth of the proposed modes, and lo lay out a part of the sum arising from ihe sales, in the purchiio of lands capable of ])roducing the incotao required. The object which next enrrajed the attention of the board was to consider, in what parts of the several Districts (tf the Province, the propo- sed schools and seminiry should be erecied. On this point wo were unanimous in thinking that the towns of Cornwall, Kingston, Newark, and Sindwich are the most proper places for the sites of the four schools ; — We were equally unnnimous in considering the town of York as entiiled to the university both as being the seat of the Executive Government, the LeeislHtuic, and the ourts of justice, and as lieinp by fur the most convenient spot in the Province fi-.r nl! pe- neral purposes, its situation being nearly central, and besides its accessibility by wiiter, the propo- sed hiuh road from the one end of the Province to the other being necessarily to pass near it, or through it. Th"re was not the same coincidence of opi- nion with respect to the number of scliools which tiio several members of iho board consi- der as n'lw iiecess.iry ; — each part of the Pro* vince seamed to have its claims, and micht con- soler itself IIS injurxd, if it \> ere postponed tunny other; — Some of the gentlemen were ihercfuro of opinion that four schools were now necessa y, and that the whole number should be begun at the same lime ; uthors thought that besides the necessity of nr nuL'ing the fund in the most (rii« g d manner possible, the present circumstances of the Province do nut call for the erecnon of more .h:tu twuschuid^: and that if the situ itiims of those two HI*' obviously selei ted, not w' b a vii^w lo liny particular District, bui lo die Pri»- vitice ill large, there will be no luom fur ;iiiy jealoitsy among (he seveinl parts ol it — ai.ir S(Mne discussion, tiiis ojdniun was ticcedid lo, anrl the towns of Kingston and New; rk wire selected, he foiiiuir for the etisK rn and the h t- ter for the Western half of the Pioviiitr, be it was at the same lime stipul.ited, and agreed, il at as soon as the fund should be sufl'n iemly |.r'>('uc- tive, the towns of Cernwidi and Saiuiwich sh. II cii'-h receive a similar niuik of ihc Kuyul muni* ficcnco. Nothine now remains, but tbnt I slioiild sttile to your honor ihe exient of the aju lopriation of waste lands which in the conceptions of tho membi-rs of ihe boaid, is necessi.iy foi the pur- pose in question ; and on ihis sulijcct, I am h:;|i[iy to s ly that our calciiiiitions approach as nearly to each other, as could reasonably bo txpt-c cd. I believe I may stnte it as our unanimous opi- nion, that the appropriation should cover such a portion of the wiiste lands of ihe Crown, as if nuw sold, would |)ri)(Uice the sum of £18,000 provin- cial currency ; estimating tlic present average prco of land at about nine pence jior acre, the quanti- ty required will be nearly 500,000 acres or ten townships, after the deduction of the Crown and Clergy sevenths. It is obvious that if the four schools are alt erected immodiniely, tind the allowance which our estiniiite proposes for them, is not extntva- gat.t, a much larger th;in that wi.ich 1 hitve men- lioncd will be necessary, and, consequently a much larger appropriaiion must be ms'de. But in the nnnn r in which we propose (hat the fund should be manapid, we conceive ihai the qui:nn tity obove •mentioned will not only be nn>|dy sufficient for tho es;; biislnnent and support of the four schools, bul will be no/i.ly if not ade- quate to the erection and endowment of tho university which tlie Royal Bounty hi?s promised to provide for us, whenever the advancement of the Province calls for such an institution. Having trespas'^ed so bine upon Your Honor's time and aitention, I shall pot trouble you with 'i;. J } SCHOOL LANWS. ♦ ♦»!« •lotftll of tho tnnnn^r in which wo con- 8. Th.t if, nftor fl.i^ a-hlition, tlio fund he r..,ve .Ir.' th- M>op<.*e.l fund should ho m >n-.god, still ins..ni.ii-». a lu.llicr ,.orimn o| li.e a(M.|0. r..-.,.... I hcwlh'tit will ho suffich-nlly np. prialed I .ml b« sold, nnd tho money HiiMug «',.,' iVon. .he following resolutions, into which from .he snir invoked in tho purch .so of oihur il,,. HoR.d l.HS ronOrns.-d all that it has to ofler lunds so s.iualed as to yield a present rent. outho intoros'int; iind import lut "'"I'>'<;t which ^ That whrncv.T tho r,ovcrnor, Lieuti-n^tnt Governor or person iidniinisi«Tinp the (Jovorn- mi'ut in Council, shall he of opinion ihnt th« circums'.inces of ilie Province Ciill for the erec- tion of two oihcr srhool.H, nnd also that the iip- propriaied fund is siifiicien; not only to hear the cxptMiso of iho erection and endowment of those two schodls, but ttlso to h dve a residue sulTicii-nt for the estiihUshnient and future mi int< nance of a seminiry of a I 'fger, and moie comprehensive nitture, the smie steps bo pursued with respect to such two schools, as have been J'Iready leconimendod with respect to the two schools at Kingston and Newark. has ..nK:>t"'d il : I have th.-refore he honor to inform you thai the menr-bers ot Ui» Majesty t, Exe.uiivo Council, the Ju.'ces, and tlie L I'V officorsof iho Crown, ^Oer much iHfhiction, and del'lieration on tho matter lofened to them, are of opinion. I Tli.it an appropriation of 500,000 acres or li.n Towiiibir-, ifter cleduciine th.- Crown and CliT.'v Si'Vi-nihs, will bo a suflicierit lund for the esiablisliment nnd mainlei 'ince of the Royal founda ion of four Grammar Schools, and an University in the Province of i pper Candida. 2. That the present circumstances of the Province call for tlie erection of two of those schools, one 't the T<»wn of Kingston, the other at the Town of Newa' k. 3. That foi the purpose of bnildine; a plain but solid and subst; niiid house containing a school room suifiricnt to contain 100 boys, and apartments for ihe mister, laiee enoiiph for the accomodation of a inodemte family, and the te- ception of from 10 to 20 boys as bonders, the sum of £3000 provincial currency for each, vill be a suffiiient allowance. 4. That for the purpose of raising that su'P, a portion 0*" the appropriated tract bo sold, in the manner directed by His Grace the Duke of 10. That tho provision for the establishment nnd main'en ince of the Universiiy be at least equul to that for the four schools taken together. I have the honor to be, &.C. &,c. Sec. (Signed) J. ELMSLEY, c*. I perfectly accord with this Report in all it» parts, (Sd) PETER RUSSEL, President. the manner nnecren oy „.s v,.a.,. .... ^..^. .. Document No. 1 referred to i,. Mr. Secretary Portland with respect to the otlier waste lands HiHier's letter to the Executive Council of the 13tli May, 1823, respecting school lands. Extract of a despatch from Sir P. Maiiland to Earl Buthurst. Much good might he effected by the orjjani- zation of a general system of Education ; an oh- of the Crown 5. That for tho purpose of defraying the sa- laries of a master and under master, in case an under master should be thought necessary, and also for the purpose of keeping the buildings in repair, and making such additions thereto as cir- „. .. ^-..-.- -.^- ,. . . ' , p cumstancesshallreqnire,theannualsumof£l80 ject to which might be applied the proceeds of provincial currency for each school is a sufficient the sale of some port, otj of the lands se aside nllnwancfl ""dor the title of school reserves, consisting of . ,. , .12 townships, compri,ing 740,000 acres, still 6. That in order to raise this anivud sum, such j^^^gy^,^ reserving a certain portion for the fu- portion of the waste lands of the Crown in the ^^^^^ endowment of an University, should such diflerent parts of the Province be selected, as ^^ Establishment not bo considered advisable at from the quality of the soil, or from their local ^^^^j^ situatio'n, are most likely to yield an annual rent, V • and that they be leased in the manner hereiofoie „ J^ j^ prop^spd to establish one introductory r/'commended by His Majesty's Executive Coun- g^hool on the National Phm in each Town of a cil with respect to the Crown and Clergy Re- f.^ji^\„ size. It is supposed that a salary of serves. one hundred pounds per annum to the master of 7 That if the income arising from the lands so each such school would be sufficient. The num- rese'rved, and leased, be insufficient for the pur- ber of these schools mny be increased as the poses aliove mentioned, a similar selection be circumstances of the Province may require, and made from tho Ciown Reserves. the means allow." • DOCUMENTS nr.I.ATI COPY, 2'« //»« Jjirrllfnci/ Sir Peregrine Maitland, 4*c. 4'*" 4*'^' May it plevsib vour Exckllrmcv, The Comn'iiicc of \\w Kxordtivo Conn- ril IowImiii Your I'xccllinry wan |»Icas() I ro lo- f(>r the Ci)nNif a lii'^'licr thns, wliicli IJis (iiMCo ihon Hi'j not tliiiil\ necosjury in lJ)>per C inail:i. A Jotler was also n.-ati from [lis G tee boarinir d.-tc, 4tli, iNov. UlT, acK'iow- lodi'tngi-n aiiflross from llio Iwo Louses of tlr»> l,e- pislalurc reqoestin'j; an appioprj -tinn of Crown Lands for ilio c'stablislimrm of Srliools, mid comniunicalinc: his Majosly's pic'siire to acqui- esce in their peiiiion direriinfj t/iu (Jovernor to con>iu!t the members of the <'xecuilvo C'oimcil, Juili;es and F^nv ofti