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 A Sketch of proposed Regulations, concurrent with tlw *'^^->^^^ 
 Estabhshment of a State Provision for the Roman •^<patholic 
 Clergy of Ireland. 1809. ' 
 
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 As additional " Cl!ius;«s, iiitcndcd to be proposed in the Comiiuttcip, to be adflcd to the 
 " Bill to provide for the ReinoTal of the Civil and Military Disqualifications under 
 " which liis JVIaje^tv's llomaii Catholic Subjects now labourj" arc in circulation 
 among tho Members of th« House of Commons ; and as one of (hose Clau'ios is 
 framed with a view to establisli " further precautions for asccrtaiuinj;: tlie Lojralty 
 "of RoMian Citli tlic Priests appointed to the exercise of Episcopal fLiuctioni 
 "in the United Kingdom :" it has been deemed also advisable to reprint tbi 
 following " ^lvetch," in order to give it a more extended circulation. 
 
 [This Sketch of Uivjiulalioiiii wan originally coinntuiiicated to many Prelate* of tiie Koinan Catliolic ("iiiiiaiuiiioii, 
 
 niid allt-rwariU printed, with an ctplanatory AdTcrtisement, in the Appendixes to the 
 
 Siihstance if Sir J. t'. UippisUy's Speeches on the Motion of Mr (ir.Ulan, on the ISth of 
 
 • May, lHlO(/'uttWf/), and on the 2Uh of April, liXi {^Rid^v$ay) : they were also annexed 
 
 ' ■ ' to hi» Lellcr* to the liarl of Fingal, ISIS {Murray). 
 
 NOMINATION OF ROMAN CATHOLIC PRELATES. ' i 
 
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 [The Regulalioni respecling Fupul Kucripit mere reserved a$ the tubjecl of another arrangement.'] 
 
 * I\ the event of a State Provision for tlie Roman Catholic Clergy becoming a measure of 
 parliamentary enactinont, it is suggested that regulations, to the following purport, should als^o 
 receive the sanction of tho f.cgislaturc : 
 
 Tiie preamble of the Act to stato, 
 
 Tliat wluMcas it is ixpcdicut, that upon the legal admission of the Roman Catholic Clergy to the 
 cxercisi- of the functions of the Episcopjiey of the Roman communion in Ireland, the most adequate 
 security sliould be allbrdod of the due elijjibility of such persons as are proposed for election to fill 
 the vacant Itoinan Catholic Sec: and as it may occur, that His Majesty's Uovernment may 
 entertain a persuasion of the ineligibility of a candidate, arising from the knowledge of facts 
 unknown to the electors themselves; — or from other considerations, which may reasonably consti- 
 tute cither a temporary or permanent objection against the election of such candidate on the 
 actual vacancy ; — 
 
 And whereas it is also expedient that no undue influence or interference, direct or indirect, should 
 be assumed or exercised by the servants of the Crown, in favour, .or to ihe prejudice of any 
 individual eancliilale in such elections; — the following provi9^ons are suggestpi: — 
 
 1st. That on every vacancy, by the death or removal of a P<date excraifing the functions of .t 
 Bislmp of the Roman communion in Ireland, u list shall be prepSTettT^niaining the names of not 
 less than four, nor exceeding liglit persons, suhjectn of His Mojtitr ; from whom it is proposed t > 
 elect a .successor to the vacant Uemaii Catholic .See. "f 
 
 [Note. — The mode of preparing such list is not prescribed, bnt left as a measure of intern;i! 
 regidatiou, to be gi)verne<l by the e.st:;h!ished discipiir.e, as obtain^, on such occasions, 
 among the Roman Catholic Clergy in la! and.] 
 
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«il. That thcli«, «o itt«Ja«id, shall be transmittf d by the President of election (who ii mually the 
 Tloman Catholic Metropolitan, or smior Bishop of the Province) to the Chief Secretary, in ..rder 
 that it may be laid before Hi,* RInjcsty'H Government in Ireland ; and witinn one nUcndcr month 
 of the receipt of such list, it shall "be returned to the said IVc.i.lent of ejection, accou.paiucd w.lh a 
 certiHcatc of the Chief Secretary, or his repieseiitiitive, to the followini,' purport: viz. 
 
 ' Tlrat whereas the names of A. B. 8tc. 8tc. have been traiisnntted to iJis Majesty's Government, 
 ' under the signature of N. N. President i.f election of a l\mxm Catholic I'nlate, »roin wlucU 
 
 ' list it is proposed to elect n successor to X. X.-late of , ai^recably to the provisions of the 
 
 'statute in such case made and provided :~and no cause being known to exist, which cuii be 
 'deemed valid, to exclude either of the j.ersoiis, whose names stand on the list aforesaid, from 
 
 * being elected to supply the said vacancy ; 1 do hereby certify the same, under my hand and seal, 
 « in oilier that the said election may proceed without further delay. 
 
 ' I do ako certify and declare, to the best of my knowledge and belief, that no means whatever, 
 « direct or indirect, at Uie instauce of any servjiit of the Crown, or by any other person connected 
 
 * with His Majesty's Government, have been used in order to influence the voice of any elector, in 
 
 * favour or to the prejudice of any person whose name stands on the said list. 
 
 (Signed) ' Z. Z. 
 
 /L_ S_) ' Chief Secretary.' 
 
 Sd. That, in the event of an objection being taken by His Majesty's (Jovernmcnt against any 
 person, whose name stands oii such list, the form of ccrtiticate shall be varied to the following 
 purport: viz. 
 After the words ' in such case made and provided, 8n:.' the following sliall be substituted : 
 * His Majesty's Government is of opinion, that it would not be expedient, in the present instance, 
 
 * that F. F. (whose name stands in the said list) should be nominateil to till the said vacancy ; — and 
 
 * I do hereby certify the same,' 8tc. 8tc. To conclude in the torm preceding. 
 
 .[Note. — In the original sketch of this head of regulation it was stated, that the cause or ground of 
 objection should be invariai)ly notilied by the Chief Secretary of (Jovcriinieiit to the 
 President ot election ; in like manner as it is understtHKi to be the practice of the Sec of 
 Rome; but it has been very properly suggested, that cases might oicur in wiiich sucU 
 iiolificution might posxibly be attended with injurious coiii>e(|uenees: — It seems, therefore, 
 advisable that the provision in such ease hhould he thii-< (]ualilied : vi/. 
 
 * That the cause or ground of such objection should be couiniunioiited iiy the Secretary of 
 ' Government, if rcqiiirt-d by (he i'lesidciit of election, except in those ca*n» wherein such 
 ' communication might possibly be attended with injurious consequences to the Slate.' 
 
 This head of provision must therefore necessarily involve a discuiiun «)n the jKirt of 
 Government, which cannot be subject to specific regulation, and, at any rate, it may 
 become a matter of ulterior consideration. 
 
 Cases may be easily imagined, where the objection to the nomination of a jmrticular 
 
 individual may be of a temporary nature, and not pergonal.] 
 
 4th. A clause to be introduced, conlaining the form of nn oath, to be taken by the President 
 
 of election, and by him also to be adminisieied to his colleagues, to the purport that they will 
 
 not give their suflrages in favour of any person but one who is known to be lirmly attached 
 
 to His Majesty, and the civil constitution of the State. 
 
 Also the form of an oath to be administered to the Prelate elect, in such terms as may be 
 hereafter advised ; which oaths to be buliscribed with the signatures of the several electors, and 
 transmitted, under the liand and seal of the J'resident of election, to the Chief SccreUny of Govern- 
 ment, in order to be enrolled. , 
 
 5th. A clause also to declare, that no person, to whose nomination an olijcction shall bo certi- 
 fied to the President of election by the Clii(-f Secretary of Governiuent, shall be coin|)ciciit to be 
 elected on an actual vacancy. The objection may afterwards be removed, and in that case certified 
 to the Roman CaUiolic Metropolitan, or Senior Prelate of the province, as no longer e.\isling.— 
 
tleciois oIlciHliug ngaiiist these provisions, to be snlypctctl to tlie penaltifs of pb*;mi;iiirk,* 
 or — — — , and tlie election to he void to all intents and piirjinses whatever, as to the c fr> 1 1 of con- 
 ferring any Icujal authority on the person so elcctcil, to exercise the functions of a Ilomnn Catholic 
 Bi!iho|) ttilhin tlir rrafni. 
 
 fith. As the Deans of the Homan (-atholic communion in Ireland are elected nearly in the same 
 manner as their Binhops, and receive institution alike l>y l?ulU from Home; it is suggested, th»^ 
 ■ similar provision should he «'n,icicd rc-ipcrtini; the el<<li(m of Deans — so alio rcith retprcl In 
 the tlection of the IVurdett of (iulnnif, riho excrritef an rjiiKopal jiiriuliitinH in spiiitual.i. 
 [Note. — The concluding regulation, prop«)sed hy the Konian (Jatholic Clerirv t(j (jovernmcnt, i» 
 January, \7W, «tat«'s, 'That the I'n-Iatcs are satisfied, that the nominationof Parish Priests, 
 ' with uceriiticate of their having taken the oalh of aliogiancc, he certified hy Government.' 
 This, in part, is consonant to the practice which ohtaiiicd in the I nilcd Provinces, where the Arcli- 
 pric»t (for there was no resident Rishoj)) presented each IViest, or (Jur6 nominated Id a 
 parish, to the civil magistrate for approbation — 'pour fire avouL' Perhaps some re.;iiiiii(i'H 
 with respect to these appointments may w»ll have |)Iace in such a |)arliameiiiary ariaiiLic- 
 ineiit. 'I'lic preceding regulations arc principally applici^iiic to the state of the Roman 
 Catholic Clergy in Ireland. They must necessarily he varied with respect to the appoint- 
 ment <t' the Roman Catliolic I'relates in (Jre.it Ilritain.] 
 It is suhmilied that these provisions will obviate «'very reasonable ohjcclion, that can be raix .1 
 by the opponents ol' the nwasure proposed by the four (Jatholie metropolitan and six -enior ni>ii(ip< 
 in January, 17!)U- though many of the objections which liave been urged against that tneasure are 
 imtenable, and prt -^ed with an acrimony of discussion, very little -uited to the subject and occa- 
 sion; the |>ropo-al, nevertheless, seems to have been made uitli 1. -s eireunupection than might 
 have been expectetl. 
 
 The presentation of the candidate to Governnu-nt, oj'ter i rannnirfil election had taken place in 
 his favour, as proposed in I7f>f>. necessarily placed such person in a painful state of degradation. If 
 rejected. This is obviated by tlie reijniatioii now ^iig<iested. Those who iiie apjueliensive of tin- 
 undue inHuence of (iovernment, will probably consider the freedom of sucli an election better 
 secured by the presetit measure, than by the mode prescribea iti the proposal of the Homan Catholie 
 i'relates, which, in fact, atVorded no such security.t ■. . • , 
 
 * Objection was tak«n, liy a writer on Ihij siibji-it, to tlir st frnly of tlii* pi lulty ;— llu' bhiiik wa* origiiialU lift 
 for its mitigation — and, upon reflection, tiie inialidili/, ai statcil in tlio l.itti.r part of tiie si nttnci-, \m)iiIiI I)c an 
 adi-quatp security in itself, if tlie proposeJ nieasini' wrn- ailoptoil. It niii.t bo n lullecli-il, ncverlliele»s, that liic 
 original franiers of the penalty weri' the frameri alio of our itatuli: of /)r(it("r»— liie work of our Uonian Catholic 
 .incestors, to preserve the frccciom of the national Church against the encroachiiiftil> of the See of Home, whch thiy 
 contended were "intolerable." The &anie penalty altaclui upon duiptcrs, atlmi; : ■ ontravention of tlir Kmg'ii 
 Con^c d'Etirt. 
 
 t Hesoluli'int of (he Koman Calliolic Prelates assefibled at Dublin, .)• 1799. 
 At a meeting of the Uonian C'atholic I'relates helil in Dublin, the tTlli, I8tli, and I'Jlh oi Janu.iry, 17li9, to dclilie- 
 rale on a proposal tioni CJoveinnicnt, ot an indi'pendent provision fur theUo:nan <- .ilholic Clergy of Ireland, under cerlain 
 regulations, not ineonipatible with their dot iriiies, iliseip'.ine, or ju^t inlliienci — 
 
 It was admitted that a provision, through (Jcivernnienl, for the Roman Catholic Clergy ef this Knig loin, competent 
 and secured, ourIiI to be tliankliilly accepted. 
 
 'lluit, in the appomtnient of the I'relaten of the Honian Catholic Religion to vacant Sees within the Kingdom, such 
 interference of (Jovcriiinent, a^. may iiiabic it to he satisfied of the loyalty of the person appoiiited, kjuit and ought 
 til In agreed to. 
 
 That, to give this principle its full opcralitJii, without infringing the discipline of the Rnniaii Catliolic Church, or 
 diiiiiiiisliiiig llie religiuus iiillueiice which I'rolates of tiiat Church ought justly to possess over their respective Hock?, 
 the following regulations seem neceisary ; — 
 
 1st. In the vacancy of a See, the Clergv of the Dioei se to reomnieml, as usual, a candidate to the Prelates of the 
 eccle^la^tical province «l(i> cli'it him, or any other they may think more worthy, by a m.ijority of sulVrages ; in the 
 case of equality of tull'rages, the Metropolitan or senior I'relate to have the casting vote. 
 
 !id. In the election of a Metriipolitaii, if the provinci.d I'relates do not agree within two months after the va. an y, 
 
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 nil...... il iM.i ..l.j.vt.Ml 1,., il„. .l.oi.T ot tl.c <lf.-iors is mo,t lik.ly ... lull; a.„l .1... .ol,.„m 
 
 ult.-.tatioi. i.m|M,.nl to Im ..liinally Kivn, bv llu- Cln.f Smrtaiy. n. Hu- nmi.c ol C;ov..r.u.H.nr, 
 su]>\Au'i also a |.l<d,u.', us liif,'li lis il.r natmr of ili-' ca^'' <•"'• [h.^iLIv allonl. 
 
 Tlioai.i.rcl.auioniof Mr. Umkv, rvprc.^cl in I.Ih I.rtter to Dr. lluHM«y, ' of ll.o too frr.|..cnt 
 ' inttrcoiirso of tlic Iloina.i Catli.,iic Hi^liops witli llie (ii.tlf,' wire fouii.l.-.i in a p. ;•„, uion, u. h<; 
 Hvous, tliat it might tirniiiiatp in an iil>s,>!i'lr iipiwintnnit Inf (i(nrrn>m>it. AgaiiiM m cli a|i|K>int. 
 jiicnts tl.r inu<lr ,J,<;u,c.,tiil may \w roiisidi'icl a. [.lovidin- a more a.K-ciu,itc j;uai(l, ili.in any oiIkt 
 liilliorto practiced or proiMwcl. If ever a I'athoiii' I'ri iaic wiw ««. I"' roiuid.ird n» a virtual 
 nomin.v ..f tii<- Ca»fl.-, Dr. llii^sfy himself wii* assuredly thai iii.livi.i.ial. II I).- imd not hmi 
 imlioniscil t.y tin.- Miiii^uns ol llic Chmmi in llic appoinUJH'nt to llif I'r.sidtiu-y of Mai/iiool/i, 
 tliiTf was but liillc pidliahility tiiat he would have b. en rt'comimiuii'd to A'owi, , lor tlii' Uomuii 
 <'nlholie See of ll'iilirloa/. Tiie electors, apprised of the seutimeiitu of tlie Kin^'i Ministers, 
 doubliess (onsidcied liis elcetioii n^ a graceful eoiiees»ion to (joverimieiit. In the event of a 
 repeal of tlir reiiiamiiin <li.i(|iialifyin,<,' stalules and tiie e,labli.shin< lit of a Stale provision for the 
 r.omaii Galioiic Clergy, the eireumstance* of llie grca mass of Calholie populalioii and the 
 eoiulition of soeieiy would be so malerially ehaiiged, as to render ihi* coiieert betweeu (iovornnient 
 and the Catholie J'nlaey, a laeasme of prudence, if not of iieceusity. If the Callndie is to he 
 secured a!;aiii.4 flic undue inliueiue of the Minister of the Crown, us ulfeeting the Hierarchy of hi-' 
 •ommunion, the rrotiil.int is iiui to be denied tlie »eeuiiiy he «-laims in favour ol'ihc Ksiahlishniriii. 
 The avowed object of the measure proiiosLd, is to give satisfaction and eiiercy to both: to unite 
 the Catholic willi the I'rotestant, in usccrtnining, by tlie best means, llie loyalty and general eligibility 
 of the candidate pro|Mt>ed to he elected to lullil the diilies ol' a hiu;h and sacred oiliee, ;^ossf»ij«g 
 1^1 eat uiffiiouc, as ifi/'icling Irttaiiil i-ipic\ii'l;j, mi the minds <>/ a vii^t i/;i{jorili/ of tlir petplr. 
 
 The possible objection to be raised i)y (jovernincnt in the case of any individual cuiididatr, it iiav 
 been statid, may be considered as pci mam nt or temporally. As the late Dr. llussey's iiaiuc ha* 
 been introiliiced, of hiin also may il now be said, that il' the Miiii>lm of the Ciov'. n, who were 
 so frieiully to hij nomiiuition, or the Calholic electors, who wtie so mueli disposed tu gratify 
 
 the senior Prelate shall forlimilh invite Ihr surviving Mctriipolitani t(i the cliclioii, in which each will thru liavea vote : 
 in the n(|U.il.ty of siiirriii.'i's, the pri'siiJini; Nb Irujionlaii tu liavu a casting vote. 
 
 3(1. Ill ihi'fiiM'Uci ions tliL' iiiajuiity ot bnllragts must bf ultra mcdietatan, as the Canons rcquirf, or must consist of 
 (lie siitfragts of more than half tlic rlcctois. 
 
 4lh. The caiuhdatc so ek-cteil to bi- presented h) the IVsidfiit of the election to GoTernmenf, which, within one 
 month after sii(li|)ii'>iiitatiun, wiil transiiul the name of the ^.i.d tamliilate, if lio ohjetlion he made against him, for 
 aiipoiiilment, to llie Holy See, or rtturn the saitl name to the I'losident of the elitlicm, for such traiisniis4ion, as may be 
 ;ijjrei'd on. 
 
 5th. If Government have any proper objiclionagaini-t such canduhitr, the Prisidintof the el.clion will be inforni.'d 
 thrreoi williin oii>; momh al.er preM-r.taliun, :i'io, m lU casr, aill convene the elector to the eicctiun ,f amuher 
 cumiiduie. 
 
 Agreeably lo the (llscipliiic of tlir lU.nian Catholic Church, these regulations can have no .nVct «ithoul the sanation 
 of tlie Holy See, which sanction the Roman Calholx I'rrlatcs of this Kingdom shall, as soon as niav be, u,e th.ir 
 endeivuurs to procure. 
 
 The Pa-lates arc satisfied th.it the nomination of l'ari,h Priests, with a certificate of their having taken the oath of 
 allegiance, he ctrtiUcd to Goverimient. 
 
 KK IIAKI) O'liKlI.I.V, R.C.A.a Aruugh. 
 J. S. '1H')Y, H.C.A.H. I),, bin. 
 LIJUAHI) IJII.ION, A.H. Tuam. 
 'JII0M.1> IIHAV, K.C.IJ. C.i»hel. 
 P.J. Pl.l NKKIT, IM..I!. Mcath. 
 J. MOM.AN, U.C.H. Cork. 
 DAMKI, DKl.A.W, U.C.U. Kildare. 
 tU.MlND MIK.NCH. U.C.I). El,,|,i„. 
 JAMi;s CAti.lilJ.I), H.C H tcri.ei. 
 JOIINCKI-ISK, R.c.H.ArdaKh. 
 
ll)f« KIiit;'i Miiiistirs in tin- initnnrr of \\\» fifttioii, liud Jin-n nwirc of \i\i roiuliict in the 
 lutlir |mit ni lilt mission to llir I'oiirt of Miidiid, in llir yraf l7SO(tii«' tir(um'<tanr('» of wliicli 
 arc- now hcfon- tlie I'lililic)— it may lift as>nuu(| tiiat lir wonid not have brtn ikIvuikkI to tlio 
 S((' of Wiitcrfoifl. iNiiilicr ii if ;>ntlmli|f tliat Dr. HHIcm', wliatever tcstimuniuls Iip niii^)it liav« 
 Itornr, iiiul ju»tly lx.cn rntitlt'd to, for liin Mpprovcd loyalty, would have' hrt n «<lrct»'(l liji tli*» 
 Kiiiiian (';iilii»in' ^ti- of Killala, at tlio prciisi- inonuiit, wIkii lii« biotlicr, iiiidoi tli< *iyli' of 'ifncriil 
 Mfllrw, a|i|)<'ari'(l in arniit at^iiina Ins country, n% lit- did on tlic dpscent of H(nnl>(Mt at Killida, in 
 l7f)H. In liotli these cuMfi (iovt-rnnunt might have hud information of tiio fact«, beforu they ruuid 
 havr rraclifd tin- ktupwii <lu<' of tlif flulors; and thesf instanct s iii.iy he «ii<(i nt casts ol' t<'nal>!" 
 (lisi|uulifyiU8; ol>j«ciioii, vuUvr fir rin(iiitnt or trmjionni/, as appliralilf lo tlic ohjcctx of thin urran^c- 
 m( lit. IndK'l, ill thn instance of Dr. liuisiy, the notoriety of his bi iiii; the coiitidiiitial chap- 
 lain to the Sjianislj llinhussy to London, might, in it^lf, have coaiiitiileil n sufficient grmmd of 
 objection. 
 
 It IS atsumcd that the right of the imperial Parhimicnt to ittrisiute in the spirit of the>r provi- 
 sions will not be (|uestioned. The authority of aiiiiosi every State, of whatever established com- 
 munion, Roman (.'atholie, (jieek, Hiformed, 8ie. &l-. ih to be adduced in support of the principle. 
 Nor lati a rotieurdut with Kome, iiniifr the circumstanctn iui^iiesftd, he de< iiied nccusjury, even on 
 Catholi<' principles, although the concurrence of ihe Koinan I'ontilV was eoii;>i(!ered by the Cn- 
 tholic I'rt-lales, in MW, as an indis|>ensable sanction of the me:iiiiiies then proposed. The distir.i - 
 tion is obvious. The pmrntalioit of the citudiUute for the approhation of (ioveriwient, bif the pru- 
 posa/ of \7\){}, Xitn to br mint quent to a canonical tlectivn, when the usual faculties vere only want- 
 ing from (tome fur his canonical institution. — By llic mode now Migs^ested, tiie names of certain 
 persons are to be i:an!iinitti-d to (iovcrnmcnt merely as candidates for rieetion, unknown possibly 
 to themselves; and the objection, if taken to any, may rcmuiti equally unknovvn: — it will restmucit 
 with the discretion of the electors. 
 
 The various <locumenti in the Appendi.x* arc not cited a^ perfect niodelii for imitatioji. Many 
 of the regulations are known to have been influenced by caprice or resentment, especially in the 
 insuuiccs of Austria and Venice : nevertheless many also are the result of a sound and liberal policy, 
 and coiiHrm the principle, that the sovereign power, in every state, of whatever religious commu- 
 nion, has considered itself urme<l with legitimate authority lo legislate in all matters of ecclesius- 
 ticul regulation t withm its dominion. 
 
 •The original Appendix, liere referred to, coiitjincd the Editti of tiie lovrreigns ui Uiissia, Spain, kc, and was 
 unncxfd to a summary of Corre>poiuieiitc with several of (lis Majesty's Ministers, not published. 
 
 \ The power of the temporal Sovereign is here to be understood, as not interfering with the poxxer of the keys Uricllij 
 spiritual, but in tlic sense alone that it was ever exercised in thit reuhn, in the da\ > of our Koman CathoUc ante -Ilts. 
 
The followinjr Extract, arc inl.joined as illiisJrnlivo of ll.o Principle contended fur in the 
 
 preceding Sketch of I'roviMoiial Ileguliitioni. 
 
 Mx^ract <^a LciUrfrom tht En. J. \V.,fe..er (a Roman Ca,Mic Clcr^ma,,) ,o Sir J. Law.on. h.n,. publM^d 
 
 <i< /iiVAwioHi/, in W^i/iiK-, M IHIO. 
 
 " Thi plan wln.l, I l,„v. to proper, e.ul.r.oc, the t«ro which lu.« lu-en alrea.ly ....-ntionr.l. > r. ,„ ,,,.„!lfl.,l 
 ,n.l re.tnrtf.1 in Hinr ..p.rati.M.s a* to pro.lu.c I,y llu-ir coinhination thr l.,.|.i..r,l rcM.lb. /f o.,..r,/., r. 
 J/M .l/wKi/j^ «'< '/< ' 'I"'/ '.f;"/<'V''. t'" ''"" '■',',""'" " '•'"•"■'<" <T./ui.r. (y /., //-• .V,lro,u,Um». U al'o c,lal.li»h.» 
 domestic n..iinnuti..n, hi.l that noiui.ialioi. it coi.fiiioi. exclusively to the S..ll•ra^Mn \Mu>y^. U i» comprivd 
 inthft.glit follouin- articles: lour of ul.ul. n'l;.te to tin- apMnimm.-nt of Mriropolitai.s. ami four to the 
 tppointinnit of Sii(lVaif.in P.ishops. With rrnp.^i to llip f,.rmn-, it propoHfn. in llif lir.t pla.r, that, on th.- 
 demise of a MctroiH.liian, Ins surceHsor l.c elected hy the M.rvivin- Siillhuinn. :-Sceoi..lly. iltni /Af name ,<f ihf 
 pfnon so tkcted hy a mnjonly of ,„fnf^-ii, h- Miirrrd hi t> Ills ;1/«;V,.(/f Pmy Oimril .— Thirdly, that 
 whcnevrr the prrson whoM: iianir Miall he delivrrc.l in to III. MijcHly's IVuy Co.iiic.l. ,,hall be ohjectr.l U, by 
 the saine, anolher -hall !..■ el.Tl.-d ;-.\nd loinilily, tli.it «hen the persoi. clect-d iW/ iwl be ohjecteti to by Hit 
 Majeai/s Privy Council, application shall he made to the I'ope in ln» Ik half for e.inonical in*tiiution. With 
 respect to the latter, it al>n propones, first, thai, on the (leiin.e of a Siiirra;{.in Ui>hop, Ins sueee.tsor be elected 
 by the Clergy of the vncaiil iliocoe :— Sreondly, thai the name ol the person so elected hy a majority of sullra^'e• 
 »h:ill be delivered to the Ili.-hops of the province as»enihled in council, at which the Metropolitan bhall pre.i.le : 
 —Thirdly, that when the persen wlio-e name slijll he .Itliviied in ti> the Ihshop^ so as-eiiibled, shall be 
 rejected by a niiijiTity of uflVa-e,, another •'hall he ileeted : — AikI tonrlhiy, tli.il, when the person elected 
 shall be ai>provtd of hy the Iti-hop.i so assembled, hy a majoniy of suffrages he shall receifc from the 
 Metropolitan canonical in-litutum. 
 
 " The sole danger to whieh tlie f iir< of our political friends ap]iear at present to he coiifimd, or wliich 
 even the hi[;oti-y of our pulitieal adversaries can with any Dlausihilitv all. gi- »» '!"• tf"iind of il" "■ hottility to 
 Catholic em"ancip:ilion. is the interference 'of the Pope in the nppcintm.nt of Ci-Miohe II..!...,.. .\o\v every 
 possible danirer whieh may he Mippoied to aris« from »neh inii'rfereiitfe, the adopiinn of the ■'. oemc which I 
 have presumed to sui,';{eM, will ellLctnally remove. Tor in the appointment of Milropolilaiis (which is the 
 only case in wliich the scheme admits of the interposition of the Pope), :'/ also ;irts to Ilis Mtijfsii/'t Privy 
 C.mncil an cff^tuul rfgittive, hy the exercise oJ'kIiu-Ii ei\-ry (■'•noxiniH i>ti)cn may «/:;■ yt beeirludcd.*" 
 
 EHracls from a " Ldlcr to a I'uriali Priefl," iVc ly Ih. Milncr, Timlwp of Vn telhalu, V. A. in the Midland 
 
 llistnct, d.iltd ]>t .-/■y»s/, ISIIH. 
 
 " I proceed to show upon what 'jmuiuls Iie-ttd my tipniion, thai the Ir.sh Prelates, in the event of a 
 " friendly Ministry sneei rdiiij,' to pi'Uer, and of the diiaii! ipatioii beini; uraiiled, wnuld not hesitate, under 
 " the pre»umed saneliuii of 11 is llolmcss, toadiint til' a liiuiti d pnwerof exeUMnn m the executive (iuverninent. 
 " The first of these ^k.iiikI.s is the iiclnul i.i,i,\riit winch they (ilial is) the li.or Metriipohlans and six of the 
 "most ancient Jlislieps, speakin^f in the name of tin uIkjIc l-;pise(.j,al Uody, have actually tjiven to the 
 " ])ropo»ed measure in their sulemn d. hlieraiiun^, |j( Id al Dublin mi the ITlli, iMili, anil lUtli January, 1799. 
 " In these dehbeialioiis, liaviii-.; prcinisid the Juxiicc and propriety of the inter.'ereiice of (.orernment in the 
 " appointment of (Jdlliolie liisliops, as l.ir as it is necessary to ascerlam their loyalty, lliry resohe as follows:" 
 —[The Hesolutionsof 1;'J9 are then tiuote<l by Uisliop M.J " Willi re-nect to these Kesolulions, I have to 
 " observf — 1st, That they are in tlie hands, I belli ve, both of Ministry and 0|,p,,Mlii>n, and are considered, 
 " by both, ai. binding' upon the llpiscpal I'.ody ;— '2dly, That the exehisivr power ilsell', or the rinlil of the 
 "Veto, is not less ex; lieitly oller.d in them than it is menliuiifd m my iiei;oii;ition-:— idly. The necessary 
 " checks ii|)on this Veto are not so dislmelly expressed i:i the toriner as lluv aii' m ihc huicr." A"aiii 
 
 • It is scarcely llec»f,^.l. \ lo ...l.„ rve, (hat, llioiigh \\\c principle ol lie- Ki:i-N-prrn.,,:itive U adiiiilted hy Mr. Wheeler 
 in the preceding piojiosal, it ilo.s not :,d- ipuilel^ provide agaid.t the ;.|.p .i,.U,,ciU ol a SiiJ, ,.i;un ISisUf, agaiust whom 
 an objection mij^lit be urged, miIu f(|ual jihlK.r, hy IJin Majcil_\'s (igvi rniiniit. 
 
" In almoU fffry nnratholic country mp«n* tre prnfuUil, and ran i« taken, both Uy tho«« who h.i»^ • 
 " rittlit lo |irp«'Ml, anil liy the Ilnly Srr lirrtrlf, lh:it no prr«<in ohnnriom to the Sof' riifn, thall lie raucd to 
 " ihf PrcU' y willnii hn iloniimnim. Tlir Sovrrfinim of Rti^xa aixl Prii»»i.i will lie foiiiul to hivo iirrcurd a 
 " iiimrr lit thiK ri-ipt <'t, whirli fur excii-J.'* th it whicli lh<- Iruh I'relnti'i lu«<' ullerrtl I ■ IIh Mijritty ; niul 
 " iiKvirdiiiiily lhf««'Sovfr«ii;n» litve rwrh ofthKni «n UTrrtlittd u^eiii at Umiii-, cliirtly ("Drllir exrrcJHO of tin* 
 •• iHi»<T. — rii»- KiiiR liiiiinrlf nijoy* il, wiih lltf cohhiiI nl' lUme, in the |.roviiicr of t'ui/«i/ri ; the fiithop of 
 " Jiieliii- not Im'iiii; allownl »« iiiiich ai Iw chin>»e hi* roadjiitor, until the Initcr Inn hftn itpprofd l<y the Civil 
 " (uivanor. — Firtirlhly, Whnltvtr outcriei i\f the Chunk in dmngtr winy Adic been iniseil Ay innnranl or violent 
 " t'ulliiilicf ill lieltiml, I vhiillenf^e »n^ Iranie:! tiitine or nihtr ivritrr, lo «h"W tliit llu- allow nice lo (>'ivernili<'iit 
 " of all rt( liuivc |K>wiT III I ri'«(»niin^ lo ('ntholic Prt'liHiw, if cnnfmrd to ihrt-r hin<r», ami at-ronipaniiMl c;!)*:!! 
 " tune with the avowal uf a well-KroMndcd ku^imcioii of Uic candidate'* loyalty, contaiiii any IhiiiK eitlii-r 
 " iiiit.iwl'iil 111 il*i If or duinftToiii lo the Chiirrh." 
 
 'I'lic Itarnrd I'nlale thin priKtriU to a«iii;{n the 'ground* of hU •pinion, and nftrrward* deprcoati^ the 
 oiilriy, at if ihr riifhi) iif' their Church xueix uhnul to be tuneiultred, and thi.' Kinj'n ccclcftiattiial HU|)rciiia(-y 
 ovLT It ackiiowU'(l|;i'd. 
 
 " r.iil, Kiiifp this opinion (he lontinurt) i* foiindrd in the uratiett error, nnthins' m f) fn%\f nt to ditiipatf it, 
 " 1 1/ r I ixmi 'ii; the Ime »tute of fucH, in opposition to nrvipaper J'uhehiwil', uiij by tiplaining, in its tevtrai 
 " I'liits, the true nj/ntem >^f cwumicul electiont." 
 
 lli.hop MiliHT then proceed* thu» — " Slwuld the Pn latfj rtcedefiom ihr It :,ilution», which tlifii entered iniit 
 •* at Dublin, in 1799, I ho]* tlu-y will lie ahle to viiuiicale their priH«ed:in;it and clmrarlrr, iinainst the 
 " iiuinrrouH and uhli' opponents of eacli commiiiiioii, who will not tad to attack them nn the lubject, nnJ 
 " haiasH thtin for many ytai-« lo come. 1 Iioik: lln.'y uiU provide aiitwrrn, and »iich aiMWcrt ax may he 
 " dcfi-ndt'd a);ain>l inrii oftalfiit!), to llu- followiiii; ipuMioni, uliirli will iiR-c-Aaiilly ho put tu them, iih they 
 " have ill purl lieeii alreaiiy frequently put to mr. < 'I'lie head uf the Church hat allowi'd a direct iiiterl'erence 
 " HiiJ p4>wcr in the appuiiiliiienl of Hmliopa throufihout the Kceatir part of the Chrixliuii l.'onliiunt, to a mm 
 " who has apostatized to MahomcUni^im ; and shall it l><- ilefintil uninnj'uljnr "m Mamirch to interfere in thit 
 " hti»ineiif JuU so Jar a* it is necet.uiry to usceitain the loyally of men, who are to pouess sitvh /fr eat iiifiuenee n-.i-f 
 " his iu'jeett t The nchisnintical Sov«-rci;fii of Hus.iin, and the litTctical King of I'rusiia, have always l>een 
 " cunsiiltcd III the choice <d' Catholic Prelates, fur the vacancicit within their rc-'pcctivi- doininious ; what tlirii 
 " hiiidci'k the Soverei|{n of the L'nitcd Kin|;doin from enjoying the »anu' privilege? He actually pos'ieitscs it 
 "now in his Ameiiain dominiont ; ii tliat unlawful in Ireland, which i« lawful in Canada?' But you have 
 " already declared, after three days' solcnin delihcration on th«.«uhjtct, that surh interference qf Guvernment in 
 " ihi- tippointiiient of I'relutes, us tntiy enable it to be i^iti'fied q)' the loyally of the person to he appointed, ii juii 
 " and oti{:ht tu be n'>irtd to ; and that, therefore, the candidate elected is to he presented to Gov»'rnniciit ; and 
 " that if <iovennnent has any proper ohJ4 ction ajjain»t him, the President will convene the I'.lcctors, iind 
 " proceeil lo the «lcflion of another candidate."—" Huch were your de< i.-ious delivereil t.> (•'ovcrnment nine 
 " years u^o, and which have uniaincd with it ever since, to he acted iip< „ wlieiuver circiinisianccs tliould 
 " permit. n<i you break faith with it ? — Or, i» that become fal»e and unlawiui n<»w, winch was true and 
 " lawful then ? In a worti, will you reject these renohit ions (for the purpo-c uf (jin, tiu;; |||.- alarms of tin- 
 " nation, and proinotin!» the emancipation), which jou heretofore vuluntariiy made m onh r lo obt.iiii a 
 " provision for yourselves f " 
 
 " Snch are the objections, in part, which 1 am confident will be thus held out ag.ini-t the Prelates on every 
 " side, should they retract their decisiont. It is wise. Sir, to anticipate iniKliitl of e\ciy ki.id, m order to 
 "guard against it. If, on the other hand, the I'relutes should abide hy what they have solemn'y resolved 
 " upon, they vcitl have nothing more to do than uhal is perfectly utthin their >plirre, and v.'hat is comparatively 
 " cay to be done; namely, to enlighten their people, and ihoxo them ho;c j^rotyly ihey hive been imposml upon, 
 " both as lo facts and reasoning,"* 
 
 * Such wan Bishop Milner'* statement and atl»ire to the Prelates of hii comiiiiiiiion, in 1*09. In ISIO, the same 
 learned Prelate published Ins " Instructions to llie Ctilholics of the Midland Cuuiities in England, on the Stale and 
 Dangers of their iW/gion,"— which lie iceins then but to have just diicuvered ; and one of the Kroatcbk of wliith dangen 
 hii coiiiidrri to be tliat secariti/, whii li h (irrnandeil of Honian Calliolics, for the " rell|'ioiin KsUlilisliiiieiit of Ilic State." 
 —Referring to the o|iiiiiuii-. he had expressed in the preceding Kxtracts, in conjiiiii-tion willi all tlir M'-lropolilans and 
 the six senior Dishops of lii> coiiiiiiiiiiion in Ireland, in 1799, he pro« eeds lo a rrlrnclalion, in these words :— " i hereby 
 " publicly retract and comlcnin my aforesaid • Irtlcr to a J'urish Priest,' and all nij other Letter* and Writini;*, 
 
« whctlicrvriiited or manuTript, on the jubjrct of the feto, wluch I wrote v»liile I was under the aforetajd-delmlon; 
 "Ihalis tos.w, from the Liltci part of .1%, till about the conclusion of A'opemifr, 1808."— In the same note, Bisliop 
 Miliier observes, itut, " afirr all, tlut imurliinate private, though printed Letter [to a Parish Priest], was a mere piiir 
 '• v{ mnotrig, intended fertile omsidiT.ition of the Irish Bishops, at their approaching assembly [hi September I80H], 
 " and withlield as far as lav in my power, from l!ic inspection of others."— Wc are not disposed to controvert tin 
 Bisliop's privilege of ilispens np with the oblii^ations apparently resulting from his own opinions, however solemnly cr 
 formally st.ited ; but we cmnot so readily admit his power of changing the essence of facts. If the regulations ami 
 restrictions upon the appointment of the Roman t'atholic Bishops, aa admitted by Bishop Milner, exist in the several 
 States which he has eniMncraleil— whether of the lioman Cathnlic, Greek, or Refurmed C'luneheH— they must still exiii, 
 independently of the learned Prelate's iW.m^s of opinion. So, if all the Metropolitans, and the six senior B.C. 
 Prelates of Ireland, in the vear 1799, resolve that " such interference, as may enable it to be satislied of the loyalty 
 "ofthepers»n appointed [u Bishop], is jusl and ou.nht to be agreed to;"' — w« cannot admit sutJi interference to he 
 less just and expedient at the present hmr, altlioiii^li Bishop .Milner has thought proper to retract his ov*-n opinion in favour 
 of it, on his discovery thai tceuriti/ was demanded of the Catholic, in favour of the Establishment in the Chiircli as well ,is 
 ihe Slate:— ti svcunlv virtually recognised in the oatlis taken by Catholics in all parts of the United Kingdom. S,) 
 likewise may we consider, that, whether the Homaii Catholic Prelates arc difpos'.d to accept, or reject, the " Sliite 
 " Provision for tUcirVtergii," wrhich all the Mttropolitans and si:; senior U. C. Bishops declared, in l"91>, " ouij,ltl t > bf 
 " tImnkfuUy uccepttd ;" it does not follow but that the State oughi .o be equally satislied of the loyalty and civil eligibdity 
 of the person apponited to a char;j«', holding so great an inllnence, in opinion and habit, upon the minds of those within 
 the sphere of its juri^^diclion. llavim; ailvirted to the opinions held on these points in 1790, we are naturally disposed 
 to putthe question suggested by I'istiop Milner himself: " Is that become false and unlawful now, which was true an.l 
 " lawful then ?" And to conclude, in the words of a Right Honourable Baronet,* — a zealous supporter of the claims o( 
 tjie Catholics,—" the rule of right, the measure of justice, miibt be the same to-day — yesterday— and for ever." 
 
 • Sir J. Ntwport'i Letter in tlie Dublin Herald, dated I8th Not. I8I'2. 
 
 Tlie preceding Kxtract* are taken from the Supplementary Notes annexed to the Sub.stance of Sir J. C. 
 Hippisley's Speech on iMr.Grattan's Motiou, a4th April, 1812.— (Uidgway, PiccaUiily.) 
 
•reiaiddelHiion; 
 me note, bisliop 
 AM a mere picif 
 'ptcniber I80n], 
 ) controvert the 
 :vrr solemnly or 
 
 regulations and 
 t In the sevrrai 
 
 muit still rxift, 
 ix senior U. C, 
 1 of tlic loyalty 
 crfereiice lo lie 
 ipinion in favour 
 yiitnli as well ,is 
 I Kjngiloni. ,Si> 
 ret, tlie " Stiitc 
 9, " ouu,IU t> b: 
 1 civil ellgilj:lily 
 uf those within 
 tiirally dis|)(.so(l 
 cli was true aiiil 
 f the claims of 
 )r ever." 
 
 m 
 
 :e of Sir J. C. 
 illy.) 
 
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