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BY THE
HON. L. RUGGLES (JHURC^ll,
TRKASURKR OF THK I'ROVIMCK ()!■ ()UKi!!:C.
DKLIVKftED 1\ i:iK
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY, QUEBEC,
1st DECEMBER. 1S7H.
REPORTED FOR MONTREAL "GAZETTE.
Pontre;tl :
r. k R. WIlITi;. PRINTERS ANJ> PURLISHKHJ?.
speech: on the 15UDG-ET
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HON. L. RCJGGLEhi OHUIIOH,
7 V arsiirer of the Province, of Quebi'c,
DELIVERED IN THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY, QUEBEC,
1ST Deckmijer, 1876.
(Reported Jur " .Montreal (liizelli\')
The Hon. Mi. Uiiuhch on rising was re-
Tscivcd with applause. Hu said : —
Mr. Spci'.lier, conformiibly to tho provisions
of tilt) J4th soi.tion of tlv- Brltisli Nurtli
.Amurican Act (18ti7), I lii'g to present a
message fioiu Ills K-toullency tiiu Ailnii'iis-
trator, KiKniJ by himself and if.iusniitiing
the supplorauntury f.stiniates for li.e i urreni
year, and thu ordinary c-itiin:iti^K fur the fin-
anci.il year eiKiinj,' tin- liOtU of June, 1878.
The Treasury Ueparlinent Act, section 24, i-u-
joins that ".i.s soon a^i practicubli;, after tlie
close of each fiscal vear, th.rn shall lie pre-
jrared in the Treasury Uepaitnuiit, for sub-
mission to the Le^;islature at its nixt session,
a stuleinent of tlie public accounts for sui h
year, shoiviiig clearly and fully the several
reVBUUes and expenditures of the Province
for the J ear, the state of the consolidated
revenue fund, and of all tru^t and special
funds under the tnanuj^emeut of the Piovin-
cial Government, and all matters retjuisite to
explain the tinanei.il transactions and posi-
tion of the Province during and at the close
ot BUeli year. This has been done, and the
publio accounts are now in the bauds of the
Diemliers. Section 26 further prescribes
that all estima a submitted to the Legisla-
ture shall bo for the services, coining in
course of payment during the hscal year, or
during such other term as such estimates
may expressly purport to cover. This I liave
also done. And iiow, sir, the motion which I
hold in my baud, and to which I respectfully
Hsk thj assent of this House, is '■ th^it
you, Mr. Speaker, do now leave the chair,
and that the House form itself into Com-
mittee of 'Supply. " The pres. utyear has not
been untventful, and the incomnig one is of
especial interest and iiuporiance ; and in ask-
ing the indulgent attention of this House
(which I believe is nevi'r refused to a per.
.son for tht first time filling the place I occu-
py) I liope to lay before you iu a clear and
e.Kplieit niimner the receipts of the I'r-asury
for the tiscal year which terminated on the
;iOth of .luiie last, and at the same time to
recount the expeii 'iture fer the same period,
and shew the relation which the one hears to
th'^ other. This will shew to wh it extent
and by whit means we have met the obli-
gations of the past. In doing this I shall
have to speak, of disa|ipoliitrae.nts which led
in sonii! instances to diminished revenue, and
of unexpected ri'eeipts (so iii speak) which
added to it, and I shall finally have to strike
the b dance bciweeii the one and the otUer so
tliat you may see at a glance whether our
liiiancfs are on a healthy and sound basiao;
not.. I shall thou have to draw under your
notice the supjiliMueiiiary estimates rendered
neces.sary to complete unhnished works for
which the appropriations have either lapsed
or been found inad'qnate, and ask your as-
sent to tiiem ; and finally I shall invite you
to look wiih me into the future whilst 1 fore-
cast the probable revenue and expenditure
i for the ap|)roac!.ing ti.scal year. To do this
I successfully presupposes a certain amount of
knowledge on my part and a certain amount
j of attention and forbearance on yours.
INCOME OK TUB PKOVINCK.
Mr. Speaker, let me first speak of the reve-
nue received during the past fis( al year. It
was estimitid tl at it would be $2,185,49.5 ; it
realized $2,340,151. But iu this are included
the new tiix -s imposed last year iifter the es-
timate was made, and which were not, of
course, inclu, irts, and an early judgment is antici-
pated. It is hoped and expected that the
resuH will bofavoiable; for this year is, of
all years, the most trying one upon the re-
sources of the Province. We are in the very
inidiit of all our great undertakings -. we have
spent largely of the means we have provided
for them ; in a short time they will be fin-
ished, and atfording a revenue, either direct-
Iv, as in the case of the Uovernment Roadi,
or indirectly, as in the case of the subsidized
one;?, by the development of trade, inter-
.-'ourse and industries ; and the failure in an
important item of revenue would be most
undesirable and unfortunate. I can only
repeat the hope I have expressed that we
will be spared the necessity of replacing
this impost by some other, for I cannot
hold out the hope that the amount col-
lected by it can be dispensed with.
The Law Fee Kuud yielded $5,715, and the
Building and Juy Fund $15,946 : but this
Building and Jury Fund does not yield any-
thmg like the amount it should yield, and
really the question of this fund and the cog-
nate question of the tost of adminiijtration of
justice in this Province is one of growing
seriousness and importance. When it is re-
collected that we are now spending upon the
administration of justice, includiiig therein
police and reformatories, $514,834 per an-
num, and when we reflect that this expendi-
ture has increased since 1868 by $2()3,397,
and since 1872 by $156,245, or equal in the
last four years to an increase of between 40
and 50 per cent., and when we consider that,
in the more f.ivored sist r Province of Onta-
rio, f illy one-half of the burthen of this ser-
vice is borne by the county municipalitieg.
and that whilst ve upend $514,831 they
Hpend unly $'233,420 per annum uui of their
cooHolidiited revenue (I quoto from their
e8timate8) — that the auiouut toatributud by
ug repreauntH very nearly twenty-five per
cent, of our gross annual revenue, and, with
the interest of our debt, one-huif of the
whole, or nearly so, we begin to see the ue-
ceggity of relieving the Qovbrnment of a por-
tion uf this burthen, and of putting a Hmull
Mhare, at least, of its augmenting expenses
upon the municipalities. What would be
thouj^ht if Knglund proposed to spend nine-
teem millions n'l'rling per annum on the
udmi'iistiatiou of justice out of onlinary
re>euue ? I repeat, the question is a serious
one, and must soou take a pro-
minent place in the consideration of
the ways and moans of this I'rovinte.
Tavern licenses proiluced $210,417. As the
House has probably heard, I proposj to sub-
mit a projet for the oonsolidalion of the
liicense Law. I hope iho efl'ect of this law
will be to g'vo increased elliciency to this
branch of the public service, make more
clear and simple the duties of the adminis-
trators of the law, and add snmewhat. loo, I
hope, to the lievenue. Some questions iif-
fecting our power in tiiis House to deal with
some of the questions inciUentul to the work-
ing out of the law have arisen, but care has
b.-en taken in framing the measure, and I
trust the objectionable points have been met
and provided for — I refer, of course, to the
avoidance of trenching upon the attril'Utes of
tha Federal Parliament in rcjrulatinfj trade
and commerce. The fund arising from this
class of imposts has v< ry considerably aug-
mented under the legislation of last sessic^n,
and tue estimates for the next fiscal year will
shew that I confidently rely upon a still fur-
ther increase. Marriage licenses gave us
$6,630, a iimaller sum than was estimated ;
educational receipts, ^5,635 ; Publ'c Works
revenue, $3,240 ; Montreal Court House, ex-
clusive of stamps, $3,66G ; the Official Guzette,
$2&,255 ; fees on private bills, $2,423, and the
House of Correction at Montreal, $14,848.
Under the head of i'odce, we have re-
ceived from the city of Quebec, $21,-
087; from Levis, $4,946; from Sil-
lerv, $666, or a total of $26,700.
This police service, too, is u growing expen-
diture, and must bo diminished. We have
spent upon the Provincial Police, as a branch
of the Police service in the last fiscal year,
$69,883. We anticipated the current year,
if nothing had 1 een done to curtail it, that it
would not be less thin $71,436. We, ther( -
fore, decided upon reducing it. Our esti-
mates are for $51,436, or a reduction of $20,-
000. To carry out this reduction one of two
things must happen : — Between now and
next 1st of July either Quebec must agree to
pay more ;>er ca/)i7a for the men, or the city
must provide its own police, and we will re-
tain 15 ur 20 men for revenue and detective
serrice, and discharge the balance. It is in-
tolerable that the but den can go on iDcreas-
ing as it hag done, or even remain at what it
is in view of the other calls upon the Provin-
cial S'jrvice. For instance, we cannot
continue to deny an increased grant
to common school education in order that
wo may furnish the citixens of Quebec with
a police force at less than cost, nor do I
think or wish to insinuate that the citizens,
of Quebec ask or expect it. Hut I merely wish
to show the impuitance of some change
Our interest account shows we have re-
ceived $124,871 on the proceeJs of the
bonds, $58,0tJ7 on speciahle()OHits,and $2,831
from the loan to the proprietors of the Beau-
port Asylum, making a gross total of $185,-
770 for the year. Miscellaneous revenue
yielded as follows : St. John's Asylum, Muni-
cipal Loan Fund, fines, gale of stiitutes, elec
tions and casual revenue, $4,561 ; refunds,
$8,234. Total receipts for the ye;jr,
$2,340,15163. We had in hand, in ( ish, on
30th June, 187.'), $3,644 382, which two itemg
make a total of $5,»8.!,533,94.
THE VBAR'S EXl'SNDITCRK.
I come now to the expenditure of the tisctl
year, ending 30th June last. We have spent
upon the public debt, for interest, charges of
management and sinking fund, $254,461 ;
on legislation, $200,420 ; Civil Government,
$153,307 ; Justice, Police, Reformatories and
Prison Inspection, $514,834. On Puiilic In-
struction, Literary and Scientific Institutions,
Arts and Manufactures, $351,180; Agricul-
ture, Immigration, Uepatriement and (joloni-
zation $189,900 ; on Public Works and build-
ings, including the purchase of the Woikman
property, St. Uabriel street, Montreal, $149,-
387. For chaiities, including the Lunatic As)^
I urns. Reformatories and Indiistrial SSchools,
$214,464; Crown lands, including registra-
tion service, $148,520 ; (fficial Gatette, $lt>,.
117 ; miscellaneous services, $3d,455. ^Ua-
diies, nuchas Tanneries Land Investiiratiou
and suit, help to distressed settlers onthe La-
brador coast, in the Mi gdaleii Islands, and in
Cinnborne township, Philadelphia Exbil ition'
Municipalities Fund, licenses, stamps, etc.,
marriage licenses, and payment to Messrs.
Robertson and Fleming on tri at — total, $37,-
394. We have loaued to the Sisters of Provi-
dence $60,000, making a grand total under
this heading of expenditure of $2,325,506, to
which must be added the amounts paid by
the sherilTs and col lei tors of revei u : out of
their collections, $29 543 — making an ag-
giegate of payments, ixclusire of the
sums (aid to railways, of $2,355,050.
There would appear at flisi sight
a deficit of about $15,000 on the trans-
actions of the year ; but it will be ob-
served that, among the items of expenditure
are two which do not properly come under
the head of ordinary outlay, inasmuch hS
one, $16,000, is disbursed for the purchase of
a building in St. Uiibiiel street, Montrea1,and
the other, $60,000. is a loan to the Sisters of
^wmssM^^smi^sMs^zsmssxx^m^n^^B^^i^^mxm
Proviilonco, Itntli iti-iiM Mrn of tli • iintiiiiMif
MS'iU, or a:M Hum« cltNuly cImiki'iiIiIo
to (iipitiil uiriiiirit. lint, l<>'.siili'N ihi'K"
expondiliiroH, wu liavi' ni'idn iiiynii'iilH
to niilwiiMi to tlio uxti'iil. of 561,517,-
80O, coii-l t ilinir nil ngurc'Kito oC tli>i.
biirsomoiiti*, an piT Ktiitciin-iit Hi'Vi'll (if tlii'
Tunlio AciouiitH, of $;t,S7J,H:)n, to whi, h iid,!
thi) winiiiifs miUtntiiiiiiLr on 3iilh .liiiii', IHTTi,
$:i8, T. '5, iiivl •.•,(! hiivi! >: loliil of $:) 'jol.f'Td,
from wliich Hii,' to im di iliiitcil onihtuidiiiLf
wiinaiils on :i()lli Juni', 187i;, ri'iicliiny; '?:!!•,-
059, wliidi i-i'iiriHi ntrt II Kiiin iniliidi d in tlui
previous items <.'f outlay. The total rr.
c;<-ipts durlii:{ till! yiiiir, with the biiliinii-
in thu 'rrciiMiiry on 30 h J^ini', 187'),
iimounted to $5,(184, ri,s:i (U. The toliil
pnym-'iits, ini Indint; the piililic delit,, in-
vcMtinent.i and ruilwayn, rnv hed S:l,8G2,
517, whirh haves in the Treasury f 2,1 22,-
OIG on SOih Juno last. This amount
was depo^iti'd in tho various hanks as set
forth in (h;tail in Statement No. 2 of the I'lih-
lic Accounts. We had received as Judicial
Dopo its, altdgothir, since the Act creating;
that Kuml ( ame into force, Mnrch, 1872,
inclu'lint; int'rest up to the liOtli June, lH7ri,
$1,982,>'87, w'lilst wo liad paid out, includ-
in^ chiirRO< tosaniodate, $1,813,554, leaving a
balance in our hand' Oi $li>;),:):(3, wlii< h Is
deposited in thu several hank.s as before
stated — No. 13 of the Public Accounts.
IlKSULT AND 8DRPLUS.
To resume the transactions (,f the year,
wo have reci (ved $2,340,151, and our expen-
diiiKc his been $2,355,u5'>, fiom which,
however is to lie deducted ?!7(i,0l)0, expilldrd
on capital account, leaving a Imlanie of ordi-
nary expenditure of i;2,279,,00(^, if retaiJi-
ed, but, if disbanded, will, of ciiurHe, produce
iioihiiig; casual n venue, $1,300 ;jiil for fe-
males, Moiitreiil, .*i.r.'.,000. This last is a Mini
ilii 1 by .Montreal as its contribution towards
the erei lion of ihisstriK tore T'le municipal
loan fund l.< expicted toyi' ld$IO,ooo, i hope
we shall collect eVi'U more from this source,
ailhoiigli I am bound to siy that hift year the
res|)onse from the niunii ipaliiies wis almost.
nil. Intri-est, $50, 000, making a grand total cf
$-.301,779.12. In geiurnl terms I niay
say till! isiimales of the revi niie have hei n
baseil upon the revenue of the tirst four
moi.ihs of tho present fiscal year and tho
reports of the otticurs engaged in its collec-
tion.
KSTIMATBD KXCENDITl-'HF,
Iconic now to the cstirniited ciiricnt ex
pendilureof the same year. Under the head
of 1 gi-latioii comes the Legislativj (,'ouncil,
including indemnity to members, mileage,
salaries and contingent expenses, which we
sit down $11,000 ; Legislative Assembly, fo.
similar Hervices, $100,100 ; i'arliamcntary
Library, $3,0((0 ; expeiiai s of elections,
$5,000 ; Clerk of tho Crown in Chancery,
salary and ordinary (ontingeiicies, $800 ;
printing, bindiiiL; and di^iriluting tho laws,
$3 300 ; law clerk, salaries of ofli c, $3,000 ;
contingencies, cuinpiis ng si ssiunal ch rki-,
$800 ; making on the whole, under this head,
legi:-l/ition, a total of $107,200. Uinler the
head of Civil (lovernmeiit — public depavt-
ments, salaiies and contingent ies, $1(53,195.
The items niak ng up this eniount are con-
tained in the printed statiniiiit accom-
panying th" chtiuiates. Ailr.iiiihtration of
Ju>tiie, proper, $414,370; police, $51,430.
This is the item as to which 1 have
already given certain explanations. Ru-
formatoiies, Montreal and Sherbrooke, $50,-
000; prison inspection, $3,700; making an
aggregiito for Justice, of $519,506 — an
increase of hetwi en $1,000 and $5,000 over
the actual expenditure of the previous year,
and assuminga reduction in the police ixpen-
iliture, as already stated, of $20,000. Next I
shall take Publie Instnict'on : Superior educa-
tion iiroper, $71,000; lli«h Schoids, (jiiobi c
and Montreal, $2,470 ; compensation to K. C.
institutions for grants to the High iSihools,
$t,y40; Common Schools, $155,000 ; Rehool.s
in poor inunicipalilies, $8,1100 ; Normal
Sihools, $40,000 ; salaries of Schoid Inspec-
tors, $30,000 ; books for prizes, $4,000,— an
increase of $500 over laht year ; Journal iii
h'ciiicatioti,, $2,400 ; Superannuated Teachers'
Fund, $8,000— this is an addition of $l,400to
the sum voted lart year, and is but a very
paltry contribution by the state towards the
relief of an indigent jlass of public servants,
who, duri.ig their years of active life, have
been very por.ily paid for their services ren-
dered tho Stale (■ heers) ; Schools for the
Deaf and Dumb, $12,000 ; depot of books,
maps, globus, etc., in the Public In-
ftruution DcpnrtnHUt, $15,000, Tliin !g h
rifW ^tutit ulto);i'lli< ., iiikI in iiittiidtd to
iTi'iile II htorr-lioUMc, whi'iRi' w IkhjIs limy 1»'
KUpplii'd with lU'ct'HMiry iiKiiUHniKl ii|<|iaiatiis
uf u iiiiirorin iliuriictcr, anil lit juiiiH bflow
(ho iiresi'iit. 'I'liiN in, I li(lu'V(|ii Hii<'f;ehtiou
of ihu Cumiuitti) 8 of I'lililic Iijhiiuc tioii.
Tlic'Ku itcniH ((iDibincd tuako ii tutitl iil'
$:tr)8,H10. 'J'lie Litciary and Siitiitific liiRli-
tutiunti would rt'ciive tln' name grants us liiht
yenr, tliu only new ( hch being !j:i, 500 towiinlM
(hu I'HtublixLint'nt of an IIIUHlrati-d Journal of
AKritullure,f 1,200 towardH llie Aurkultiiral
School at UiLhii'ond, jpromistd lat-i year hut
accidi'iilally oiuittcd, and iJil.ddO for i\\v \vU
orinaiy School at Moiitrial, [.rnvidid l(-jturi»
wiTo K'vtii in Frtiiih ns wtll an i'l Kn^;li^h,
and that it lontilbute to tin- ./ow /ail oj Ayri-
euUurf nrticli'S on vtt<;rinmv sul'i<'tts. All
tht'HU vott'H niaiU' a fjroKH fdia! ■r Ihosf «r-
vicc'Bof$162,lC0. I'liblit WorkKiiiid buildings,
runts, inKUriiiitf, repairs, tti'.. ijiri.VOl ; iiisjut-
tion and sinvi ys, $4,000 I'.iidgo ai ross the
Ottawa at ('iiliiim I hdand, pro', idiil tin; towii-
8liip in wliiili suc'i; bridge is KiUiiif.-xl furnish
a sum sulHcient to coinplit^ it (a re-vote),
$l,0;iO. 'I'owards the railway bridge over the
St. Maurice, suitable fur vehicles, or recon-
structing that over the same strciim at Three
llivers, under certaiu cunditioTis, $15,000 — (a
revote). Cliargeuble to iUiilding and Jury
Fund, rents of Court lluuses and Jails, $527.
Insurance of Court Houses and Jails, J:i,:')00 :
repairs to thdn, $l',t,yi0 ; Jail for Kemales,
Montreal, for 'xtnis, f 500 ; ' onaventure
Court House and Jail, to heightiu wall,
$1,000, making a total ofS«8,228 for publii
works and buddings, iharg able to ordinary
fxpunililure. I'nder the head ofchiiiities conn
Heauport, llcpclulaga and the other
Lunatic AHvluni Mt St Ferdinand de Halifnx,
$l80,0u0; some $12 500 b'ss (ban the c-iti-
niaKcd expenditure of the current year. We
propose to look inores'rictly to theadmissii;ii
of patients, in order that their friends sb(>uld
contribute, when jiossible, the cost or a por-
tion of the cost of their keep, wiih a view
to reduce present outlay, lielniont Iletreat,
Inebriate Asylum, receives $700 ; Murine and
Immigrant Hospital, Quebec, $2,606 ; Lying-
in-Hoi-pital, in care of the Ladies of the Good
Shepherd, Quebec, $2,013. This is no new
grant, but is made up of what wag formerly
given to the Marine Hospital and Ilo-'pice di
la Ualernite, Quebec ; K formatory Schools,
?8,140; Industiial, $7,000; miscellaneous
charities, as per list in estimat'S, $10,600 —
total, $241,120 Thus it will be feen
that while the Province o; Quebec,
with a more limiteil income than On-
ario, spends $241,120 tn charities, Ou-
tario spends but $50,696. 'i'he question
here naturally arises, whether the course of
Ontario, in largely making such charities a
local burden, or our system of imposing
their maintenance upon the public chest, is
the wiser. Miscellaneous and unforeseen
expenses, $20,000. Under the head of col-
lection, mniing( ni< nt rikI other (hnrgra r>u
nvmue, we have the hdlowiiig ; Muijicipali-
lieh(uiid,C. S. L.(!,,c«p. 110, $5,000; MirveyH
through Crown lands, $16,(00 ; gem ral t xpen-
ncy iu consequtnuo of ini.Tfami of the
number of xnea at Sherbrookn and Point
Lev 8 ; Icisofaccoutri-mentR, etc.atthe Blont-
calm Ward flre. Under the h«ail of Public
Work ■ and buildings, rents, iDRiirances, n-ptfitB
to public bulldiii(,'8, balance of last year's
appropriations unexpended on 30th June
last, but required now, $5,458 ; inoeaaed in-
surance on Court Houses and Jails rendered
necessary, $250 ; repairs of court houses and
jails, balance of appropriation unexpended
on 30th Juno last, and needeil to complete
works begun or contratted for, $7,628; j dl for
females, Montreal, amount of a;ipr()priation
left on oOlhJune last and reqiu red to pay (be
expendtur" made <- bcinu made u:uler the
contiact, $25,115; Bonaventure courthouse
and jail, balance of ap|)ropriat!on on oOth
June la! t wanted to I'onipleto the jailor'k-
hou.se, $93(J50; Philadeli)hia K.\hibition,
$1,200, the $1,000 already voted being insuf-
ficient; ngistration service, to meet dtficitn-
cy of appropriation and to be charged to ca-
pital ac count, $50,000. Total supplementary
estimatrs, $1 16,489. A vote of $(i7,486 will
also bo rtciiiired to cover special warrants for
exnenditures already made belonging to the
fiscal year ending 30ih June, 1876, as will be
feen by reference to the public accounts
statement No. 11, page 102.
CAPITAL AND ORDINARY EXPSNDITCRR.
The hon. member for Sherbrooke as long
ago as 1872, in the financial expoxe of that year,
drew under *be notice of the then members of
this House the practice which pri-vailed of
[ aying for public woiks of a permanent ( hHrac-
ter, out cC annual revenue and he pointed
out the distinction which should be drawn
between them and those annual items of ex-
penditure which had to be regularly provided
for. He said "permanent works when once
completed are completed foiever and entail
no Annual expense for the sAme purpose
tfaerfafcer,' and he inst^inced the sums there-
tofore spent upon Court Houses and Gaols and
gaol walls, speci&l grants made for special
objects, and certain payments to railways by
way of capital amounts or capitalized si'.bsi-
diee instead of annual grants, the expendi-
tnre on the Reformatory of St. Vincent de
Pan] and other works of a permHoent kind,
and he concluded that such expenditure pro-
perly belonged to, and ought to be charged
to, the Consolidated Revenus Fund, and he
forther added that that course would be ad-
opted as soon as the "rovince was in a posi-
tion to open such an account, and hi con-
clnied his remarks on this head by saying
that "' in estimating and judging of our an-
nu'il rrceipts and expenditure it is quite legi-
timate not to put down as a dtScit in our re-
venue as a^inst our disbursements, charges
for works of a permanent character,
not tntailing annual expenditure." And
again last year, on a similar oc-
caeion, when retetang to two items in the
estimated expenditure of the then current
year, viz., $16,000 for the Workman property
in Montreul and $)00,000 fcr departmental
buildings, he said that although he placed
these items in the estimates so as to have
them voted, yet that they should not be
charged against the revenue of the year, but
to capital account, and paid for out of the
balance in the Ti usury and not out of the
fact, his perspicacity and
iin to predict in 1874 that
icy the surplus would pro-
d upon year by year, but
ur means in Hallways was
year u revenue ; ii
forasight enabled ;
by our llnilway jki
baoly be encroacb
he said investing <
better fur the Province than lending it to the
Banks. Now, Mr. Speaker, I entirely oiucido
in the lemariis of that hon. gentleman on
those occasions, and 1 have accordingly
pla/^ed, as hon. members will see, in the euj -
plemeiitury and in the annual estiniat.s, cer-
tain items as chaigeablc agiiinst capital
account . in other words, I have distinguished
between those itenirt pinperly chargeable to
current e.xpenditure luid those cliiirgeable to
capital acc<;init. These items arnoimt this
year to $;^(>l,000. and consist of, 1st, the
items in the sini|>lenientary estimates of
$50,000 forR' gistnition service and $100,000
for the same service in the annual estimates,
making a totil of $150,000. And in
connection with these items I de«ir««
to explain that, wo havi^ decided upon
adopting a mere speeuy and more
ecoiiOmical method of jojipleting thir ser-
vice thar heretofore existed. It was found
by experience that doing this service by
cadastral bureaux cost ou an averag-j $2.15
for each descripiiou, whereas, by the system
adopted elsewhere than iuthecou tios where
bureaux have been established, the avt rage
cost has been from one dollar to one dollar
and twenty-five cents, a saving of nearly fifty
p jr cent And assuming that in the seignorial
portions of the Province there romuin 441
parishes and incorporated villages to be cad-
astre, and that there are m each 400 par-
cels or lofi>, there would remain 176,400 de-
scriptions to make, which, at the cost of $3.15
each would amount to $363,384, whereas,
under tb« other system estimating the cost
at the higher figure of $1.25, and not the
lower of $1, would amount to only $220,500,
and thus will be effected p saving of $142,-
884. Moreover, whilst since the inaugura-
tion of the bureaux in 1836 to 30th June,
1875, only 77,686 lots had been completed;
by adopting this new system, wa will be ablo
to complete this important provincial work:
in about two years, whilst under the old sys-
tem it wculd take fifteen or twenty years to
do this. To effect thij great saving requires
a large present outlay, but once done it will
not require to be done again in this
generation, and come" consequently under
the class of works, which I am agreed with
my hon, friend the member for Shurbrooke,
in saying should be charged to capital ac-
count. The next item in the sam<' account
is an item of $80,000, for the construction of
t)ie JacqueR Cartier Normal Hchiiol ; tliiH
sum, by a resolution of the House, if I remem-
ber corrHctly, ii was ordered might bo paid
out of tbe funds available in the TreRsury,
but it was arranged should by repaid back out
of the proceeds of the present Jacques Cartier
Normal School property on Notre Dame
streut i;^ Montreal when sold. Tlio Legisla-
ture has long since authorized this to be
done, but. it has been delayed for several
reasonp ; first, because the valun of real estate
in Aiontreal has not yet completely recover-
ed from the dep-«8sion of tbe past two years;
secondly, because until very lately, no site
liad been definitely fixed upon to erect the
new buildings ; and thirdly, because until
the new ones are erected, unlesf the value of
property recovers itself, it is convenient to
keep them for th_' use of the school- instead
of sellincr th.'ni and paying rent elsewhire
pending the erection of Ihc new
ones. I liopo tht; recovery in values
and the completion of the new buildings will
come about the same time ; but of course
we will not delay the one for tbe
other, but proceed ue.-ct spring vigorously
witii the works. The next item is princi-
imlly a revote, it amounts to X'09,000, and
is for the construction of the Di^partmental
buildings, Ion':; since determined upon, and
respecting which some progress is being
made. There can bo no doubt about the
propriety of charging this amount to capita!
account as ray predecessor intended doing,
and I may add that when tbe'je buildings "ire
completed We will save considerably in re^ts
'.nd a gre.it deal more in the item of repairs
and insuratces, as the new buildings will
require none of the former, and h'^ insurable
at a much lower rate. And, finally, there
is the item of $75,000 for the Quebec Court
House. This item is for tbe reasons above
given charged to capitbl account, has been
determined upon only on the st ongest
representations of the bar, the preRS and he
public, that tbe present buildings are quite
inadequate, and in fact unhealthy t>nd in
erery way unfit. The annu)^! iois occasioned
by the outlay will be, in ^art at least, met by
a fund which it is proposed to create for
that pui pose, to be calleid the Quebec Court
House Fund, to be made up by a tax on legal
proceedings m this district. Another item in
the supplementary estimates is $1,200 to
cover the deficiency in the vote oi' $4,000
towardi assisting exhibitors at the Philadel-
phia Exhibition.
THR PHILADRLPHIA KXRIBITION.
I had not the pleasure and advantage, Mr.
Speaker, of visiting that erand industrial
.-ixposicion of the productions of th« nations of
the earth, and hence I cannot speak
of the part taken by Quebec ; but, from all I
can gather, she t.„)ic a rank, if not worthy of
her prent natural resources, at least one
•ivhich indicated that in the not distant
future she would find a place even amoDgst
older nationj — one, too, not unworthy of the
great peoples from which her children
sprung, and that " tbe few acres of snow "
will yet be the heritsge of a people destined
to mould acd control in no mean measure
the future of this continent (hear, hear).
I Mr. Stevenson says :— In the departments
in which the Province of Quebec competed
tiiere was a total number of awards given of
482, of which number we have taken 11 V.
The nuraberof medi^ls awarded by the Amer-
iv:an Commissioner to exhibitors from this
Province was 63, and by the liritish Judges
r)4, making a total of .M7 mtdals for th.'..
Province. The total number of awards re.
ceived by Canada from the American Com-
misfion is 401, tliis does not include pri/.es
for horses, cattle, sheep and swine, as all the
awards on these classes have not yet been
made known. The Province of Quebec did
not exhibit in the class of cheese and dairy
products, and the exiiibition of grain instead
of being made by individual exhibitors was
made in one exhibit by the t;ounciI of Agri-
culture. No dogs were exhibited by our
Province, (for which Ontario received four
awards) nor did wo scarcely go into the live
stock Exhibition, as we only entered two
horses for competition. Then deducting 56
prizes for horses, &c., and 67 prizes for cheese
and grain, the number of prizes awarded to
the Dominion for machinery, manufactures
and arts is 278. In these latter Quebec did
compete, and the nurijber of awards taken by
her is S3, about one-quarter of the whole
number given. Prizes were also awarded by
the Canadian Government, the awards in this
case being made by the British Judges. There
were 342 prizes in all, 138 of these being for
live stock, m which our Province did not
compete, thus leaving 204, and of these 204,
54 were taken by Quebec, being more than
one-quarter of the whole number. Thus, as
I have saio, in th^ departments in which
Quebec competed tnere was a total of 482
awards, of which wo have taken U7. The
result is in every way creditable to the Prov-
ince. (Choers).
THE PROVINCIAL RAILWAY.
Last December, on the eve of that fegfival
which brought tidings of ■■ peace on nsrth and
goodwill amcngst men," this Legislature
^separated, ha» ng solemnly resolred upoaan
undertaking of such magnitude and import-
ance that it was felt by all to be anatioual
one. It confided to the Executive tbe task
of carrying out, as I have said, a bold tnd
comprehensive national policy, the advent,
it was hopeu, of great future prosperity and
development, I refer of course to the Quebec,
Montreal, Ottawa and Occidental Railway.
You had laid deep and wide the foundation
of this work, had defined its character and
range, and i,ad prescribed the machinery by
which it was to be done. You bad provided
a portion of the means Knd you had directed
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how the lalance whii.h wonid be wanted be.
fore the in xt niteting of Ihn Lcgishiluru was
to be rained, and a part of my purpose is in-
cidentally to hbow yim bow far nnd in ivliat
manner we liave carried ont your inBlruetioiiH.
It will, perhaps, assist honorable mi nibi rs
in the compri'hi-n icn of what will follow if
I recall the situation as it existed at that
periopily disposed of, whilst its aecompl'sh-
ment testifies to the intejiigence and energy
of the Cotnniissioners. Had this duty l)een
(heonly one assigned to «he Commissioners
they would have found ample employment;
but biyond and besides was the enterprise it-
self wliieh had to be ))ros"euti(I. It was for
thet-, then and there, to c Msiiier " the situa-
tion," to take a fidl, broad grasp of ihe en-
terprise, to map out and define what had to
be done, but to be wary and discreet as to
the manner .
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YlIK .lACQI K.S OAHTIKR HANK.
Having pot thuR fur in the events of the jiiist
year 1 naturiilly come to (lie transactions be-
tween tlie JacqneK Caitier Hank and the Go-
vernment. Ivnowinir tlie ext 'nsive (Iriilinirs
between our contractor. Mr. Mactloniihl, and
the Hanli, and knowing ttiat npon tlie resuit
of hii< settlement with n.s would (ie|)end not
alone his tinancial standing, liiit also (let( r-
mine prol)iibly the future careir of the Hank,
and its capacity to meet its obligations to-
wards the (j.ivi-rtiment, and also 'owards the
general public, 1 (Inferred takieg any action
respecting our deiH^sits till such time as the
CoiX'inis.sioners had determined wliat balance
was payable under the new contract with
Macdoiiald to him (Macdonal.i; for work al-
ready done, and .intil the law otiicers of tlie
Grown, after fhe.y had obtained free
access to the archives of the com-
pany and full knowledge of all its
enpHgements, would declare and decidrf what
were the legal oMi%Mli(.n8 between the Pro-
vince and the Dan-.- with regi.d to the claim
put forward by the Bank for Boint; ;;600,000
of bonds of the oli! comi)any as transfiree of
th'e claims of Macdonald for such boi'.ds ; and
connijcted with the solution of this problem
were several oth.ers, which naturally forced
themselves upon our attention, and which we
Bought to accomplish. Tht y were :
Int. To secure an early completion of the
enterpri.se, and this under (he contract which
we had made with Macdonald and submitted
.'o (he House.
2n(I. To save, if possible, the Jacques Car-
tier Bank from suspension and liquidation.
3. To iAve our deposit in the Bank of
$800,000.
4. To secure the payment of the Bura.s
due to the sub-contractors along the
line, aL '. the claims of persons holding lieus.
It is true that the Qovernmeut might have
eliminated some of these considerations, for it
might have refused, 1. To recognize any li-
ability or responsibility towards those who
urged that it was its duty to save the Bank if
possible. 2. It might I.ave assumed the
same attitude towards the creditors of Mac-
Donald & Co. 3. It might, so far as ite own
deposits were concerned, have said : we rely
upon the as.stts of the Bank, the double li-
ability clause of the banking Act against
shareholders and the collateral security which
had been taken. 4. And so far as the claim
of the .Jacques Cartier Bank for btmds was
concerned, and the claims of t'le creditors of
MacUonuld k Co., it might have said to the
Bank : Liquidate your claimB in a court of
law and obtain a judgment of distribulion,or
in some other way establish your rank and
priority, and we will pay conformably to
such ranking; and we might even have aone
further and said to the contractor, unless
you go on and complete the work the Oov-
erntuent will avail itself of its power under
the con(ract and take up and complete the
work at yonr cost, risk and peril. But to such
suggestions it could properly be objected, )
That tlie Government, as the piincipal cre-
ditor of the Bank, was as much as any other
LTCui tor interested in preventing it from going
into licjuidation. 2. Tliat as a guardian and
lirotector of (he public interests it was
iiound, if in its power, (o avert a cilamity
which would bring ruin and dcBolation to
many a hearth and leave huudiedb of widows
and orphans without su.'-tenance. Nor was
our course quite disinterested ; for it
might ever, happen that if the bank went
into liquidation, the 8car.;ity of money and
the depression in values «as so great that the
assets of (he bank world not — or only
after the lapse of a consid rable (ime — meet
its liabilities, and (his the more so as it was
only after the discussion of the assets of the'
bank that the collateral security was avail-
able. And even if such an attempt were
made as to put (he hank into liquidilion, an
awkward legal qu-stion would arise whether
th" bank as transferee ofMiDonald & Co.'s
right to » piyment in bonds for work done
for 'ho old Company (Hud which liy Com-
pany's engineer and the Govern ment engin-
eer report amounted to $1,000,000, on which
only somo $800,000 had been paid, miebtnot
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wt ap a claim to coapcn8at«, pro tanio, the
«naonnt of tho aRgignmfnt of bonds viz.,
$f 00,000 Btjainst the claim of the Government
for the amount of itH deposits ; and besides, if
the Govcrnrat'nt were to resist or refuse
payment till the claims of sub-contractors
were liquidated regularly in a court of justice,
all the calamities 1 have referred to would
meanwhile inevitably occur, vi/. : Tho bank
would have to go into liquidation ; tho con-
tractor «onld not no on with the work ; the
sub-contractors along the line and the
people to whom they were indebt-
ed would sufl'er very ge-Terely. liesides,
as a mere question of integrity and
common honesty, the Province, as assignee of
the Company, had got from the contractor,
by the shewing of its own engineer (Mr.
Light) a property which had honestly cost
$1,600,000, and under its agreement with
McDonald was only paying for this property
$1,300,000, a fact wlnrh, while it accounted
for McDonald's inability to meet his obliga-
tions towards the Bank and the sub-contrac-
tors and the holders of liens (workmen), at
the same time created at least an equitable
and moral obligation to i)rotect those whose
labor or siibstanoe had created it, whilst
taking over the work. In a word, it was un-
becoming for the Province to enrich itself at
ihe expense of t'leso p-ople without giving
gome consideration to their claims.
THE ARRANUEMSNT KFKBCTEn.
Under these circumstances a proposition
■wms made which it was claimed would meet
■i'.l the circumstances of the case, nameij,
l8t, to save the bank ; 2nd, repay sub-con-
tnMJtors and laborers ; 3rd, enable the con-
tractor to go on with his work and complete
it. Thig was to be effected as follows: —
Tho Bank would throw off to McDonald the
accumulated arrears of interest and would
five him until 1st November, 1877, to pay
tjbe balance of their claim not then provided
for, and would relieve the Province from any
liability under transfer of bonds by McDooald
Jt Co., provided the Government would pay
it or give credit to the Bank on
-account of its indebtedness to the Province
for $200,000, and provided further the
FroTince would undertake that it would pay
unto tho Bank for McDonald another and
ftirther sum of $200,000 without interest M
tjie work progressed on the road (or, if not
^mpleted then, on the first of November,
1877). And, as a pait of the scheme, tne
Commissioners suggested that we should
apply $300,000 of the balance coming to the
contractor towards piying off gub->'ontractor8
and those holding liens, and which should be
enough for the purpose, and as security to the
Province for these advances (over what was
coming to McDonald under his new contract)
and its assumed liability towards the Back,
McDonald would give real estate security to
tho extent of $100,000, and personal security
by the same perrons as those be gave the
Federal Government for his contract on the
Intercolonial Railway, and for the reimbi^ise-
ment of the Government for any advances
made him under his agreement, and for the
final completion of his job. This proposition
was accepted and carried into effeit. Its
result was thnt the Qcvernment paid or be-
.amo responsihle for $700,000, and had as
Hgaini-t this in its hands $.')00,0U0 (I speak in
round numbers) of McDonald's money,
security on real estate valued at over $135,-
000 for $100,000, and the personal security
above alluded to ; and,m<)reover,it was further
stipulated thnt the Huhedule under which
monthly payments were to be made should be
amended, and the balance of work to be done,
and valued at $2,307,000 sho'ild be monied oi'.t
or paid for as if the amount were only
$2,000,000, or in other wohIk, as if
a drawback of IG per cent were stipu-
lated for iu the progress estimates.
Thus, in a word, the Province risked $100,-
000, and has against it the personal se-
curity, and the above drawback as
fast as it accumulates. 1 may state fur-
ther that th'To is now in the hands
of the Government an accumulated draw-
back from the contractor amount-
ing to $175,314.15, which almost meets the
amount advanced to the bank in the first in-
stance. Tho quesiion to bo determined, if
question there be, is whether under all the
circumstances of the case this prm^eeding on
the part of the Executive wasa judici«>us one,
and I confidently belijve that on this point
there cannot be two opinions. The failure of
the Jacques Cartier Bank — the buspension of
the work lor at least some months, with its
attendant loss of interest on expenditure
made, and the corresponding loss of tho use
of the road when it ought to he completed
and reali:
14
cCRSorof Mr. Potter, it is hopflesRforits propri-
etary to expt'ct anythinf^like a fciir return (or
its capital, till the latter lin8 been reduced;
leasee! lines lield at unprofitable rates surren-
dered, ai,d uon-payini? braneiies disposed of
or closed up. And not then till ttie ruinous
competition with more favored lines is
stopped, and the joad run first in
the interests of a local tradj combined
with a throuKh one, so far as this is
consistent with the rivalry it has to meet.
(Hear, hear.) But the third class I have in-
dicated wery those who chose to pretend and
assert that the Province was unable to meet
the new bu thens it was taking? upon it, that
it was already heavily burthened with debt,
and that its natural resources were almost
nothing, and that in short it was on the hiffh
road to bankruptcy. Now, to tiiose persons.
if any there be, who make such assertions in
good faith, or who honestly believe them
when put forward by others, 1 wo ild ask
them to look at our revenue nine years ago,
at the inauguiiition of Confederation, and the
revenue at the present time. Then it was
$1,53.'5,836.66, the last fiscal year whs $2,340,-
151.63. I would ask them to remark that this
revenue, as I have before said, fur one-naif
of its amount is collected without any ex-
pense whatever, that it is fixed and certain,
that any debt which we have contracted has
always been honorably met to the hour, that
the money r>presented by the debt has been,
or IS being spent in remunerative public
works, and in the opening up and develop-
ment of the Province, that the proportion
which it bears to tiie population and re-
sources of the Province is extremely light as
com^jared with other l!riti^h Colonies.
That the rate of inter ?st payable on the debt
is com))arntively not high — and that a (com-
parison of tli(; fiiianeial position of the i'ro-
vince with that of any other of the Colonies
and States which have borrowed money in
England is certainly not to our prejudice.
I have h'ard it stati'd that as an integral
I)art of tlie Dominion, the Province o( Que-
bec is responsible for its shdie of the Dom-
inion dibt. This is true, but it is equally
true thai the ]iaymeiit of the interest and
principal ot that debt is in no sense a charge
or burthen upon the revenues of (he Pro-
vince. Others have said, but the mimici-
cipal oriianizitions like the citiis of Mon-
treal and Quebec h:ivi! debts and they form a
latof the I'rovinee of Quebec. To (his I
reply true, but these di-bts have no more to
do with our rivenui's than have (he miinici-
cipal debts of London or Liverpo()| with ttic
revenues of Great Britain, (Hear, hear) —
Hut to the last Class of croakers who speak
of the Province as being wi iiout ri'sourees, I
have no patience to reply further than to say,
come and 8''e (or yourselves liie grand valley
of (he St Lawience, (he Ji'chelieu, (he si,
Francis, the St. Maurice, the Ottawa, the
Sagucnay. Ascend any or all of thise, look
at the vast domain comprising 13'),not!,(ino of
acres of land which belongs to this Province ;
look at its Koil and its forest wealth ; examine
beneath the soil of th-; valley of the Chau-
diere for gold, the St Lawrence for iron, the
Ottawa for plnmbngo, the phosphates and
iron. Consider that this Province is the
gateway to the Dominion and the illimitable
wi'st ; look at the progress which has been
made since say 1841, see how united, prosper-
ous and contented arc her people, look how
religion and education go hand in hand, re-
flect upon the thrift, the integrity and the in-
dustry of her people, consider that to Lower
Canada and her voi/ai/fur sons has been given
the boa>t to have giv<'n a name and to have ex -
pJored the country lying betweoc the great
West and the Rocky Mountains on the one
side and Hudson's Hay on the other, rnd then
say whether a (ew millions of debt, contract-
ed to gi\e this widely scattered people close
and intimate daily connection and communi-
cation, can ever embarniS'* such » people, or
thnt their creditors can have one moment's
anxious care for the safety of their inveHt.-
men(s. (Loud cheers.)
TIIK I'ROVl.NCIAL ASSETS.
It is generally known that an interview
took place at Ottawa in October last between
the Hon. Mr. Mowat, Premier of Ontario, and
the Hon. Mr. Crooks, Treasurer of that Prov-
ince, on the oned
upon, to which botli jiarlies would consent,
and upon which such a discussion i duld be
based ; that if engiigcd in without such prcli-
miaary agreement, that it would only end in
party advocaiing bis own views, and each
that we ujiglit bo rather drawn apart than
toi;ether from nueh discussions ; but
lliat if we hvl a iirinciple and a com-
petent authority to apply it wtien we coudl
III t, that there was a certainty that theobject
Kuiglit to be accomplished would be brought
about. After several conferences it was
found that in the face of the award (whu h I
may nny is manifestly one-sided and unjiist)
it was d'lhuult to accomplish any settlement,
and it was, therefore, determined that ener-
getic measurts should be at once taken to
have the validity of the award reme Court.
\Vd (b-clined, iiut expressed our readiness to
lay it before the I'rivy Council in lOngland,
audit wan then agn-cd that this should be
done, that tho factums or petitions should be
made up and the cases submitted as soon as
•."unveniently could be done, it being under-
«tood that probably little could be done before
the end of the session of this and the Ontario
Liition ol the Pro-
vince of Uuebec is. We can easily know and
tell what we owe and what our obligations
and res[)onsibililiea are, but we can
never know nor say precisely what our
mei.n.s to meet them are till wo can
tix u value upon these assets ami know what
|)roportii)n of them belongs to us. 1 cannot
close this subject, however, without bearing
testimony to tho frankness, courtesy, and
good teeling which wu met not alone from
the representatives of Ontario when at Otti:-
wa, but to the general courtesy of the Domin-
ion Ministers, with whom we were brouglit in
contact, (Hear, hear.) I hid almost forgut-
leu to explain thit we had an interview with
the .Minister of Finance for the Uominiou
relative to soi.ie undivided funds in the bands
of the Dominion and belonging conjointly to
us and Ontario, and upon whiib we thought
we were entitleil to claim interest. I refer to
the price of library and some other
funds, and I h.'iv'o th^i pleasure to state
that I gathena from the lemarks of the
Hon. Finance Minister tliat he was not op-
posed toou' views, and was inclined to con-
sider our [iretensions favoiably. (Hear, hear.)
And now us to
TUB HAILWAY I'OLIUV OK THIS VEAi..
1 tliiidi to consider thi.s matter intelligently
and to arrive at wiseconclusion.-<, it woidt. Jerome branch, beyond
8t. Jerome, $68,400 ; the extension west of
Aylmer of the Quebec, Montreal, Ottawa and
Occidental Railway ; the Quebec and Lake
Bt. John, $570,000; the Quebec Frontier
(lap8td),$187,500 ; the Missist^quoi and Black
River Valley, $150,000, also lapsed; and the
Bay of Chiilcurs, $243, 659. These amounts
are givt n not as showing the full amount of
cash subsidy, but the amount of subsi'iy after
deduction of the five per cent, discount on
th« debentures, except in the case of the
Quebec Frontier aud MissiBtquol and Black
River Railways, when the toto^
amouuta are mentioned, and the Que-
bec, Montreal, Ottawa and Occidental
Railway, now a Government work.
To meet those amounts, and the Imlanca of
the cost of constructing the Q., M., O and
Railway, wo have the ditferent municipal
subsidies towards thatpoition of the obliga-
tions iu which is contained the Provincial
railway scheme, viz.: the balance of the
Quebec and Montreal grants, amounting to
$1,501,355.38. and the amounts due by the
municipaliticB along the line of the road,
amonnting to $459,000 ; the sum of $3,398,-
422 in cash in the treasury, being unexpend-
ed balance of the two louns, and wo have,
besides, in the treasury the sura of $650,000,
being the balance of accumulated savings
in the treasury on special deposit,
and the ordinary cash deposited in
banks in open account, of $40,140
and finally we have the right to issue $3,-
000,000 bunds given the commissioners by the
Q. M. 0. O. Railway Act of lust session ; and
lastly conies the question how we can best
use these means to carry out the purposes for
which they were giver. There are now upon
the statute book in full force subsidies to
more than a thousand miles of railway.
Some of these road-j have made more, others
less progress ; some have not gone beyond
the mere organization of i ho companies un-
der their charters ; othtrs have partly
or wholly completed their surveys,
others have done some of the
'vork of construction, but not enough
to comply with the Act granting a subsidy,
and are not likely to ; but as their charters
have not yet expired they have droita acquis,
which must meantin.'i be respected. Others
have complied with t le Acts so as to prevent
their subsidies from lapsing, and finally
others have made very considerable progress
toward completing the projected enterprises.
Now, to deal with such varied interests and
rights is the duty of this House. We have
in our hands a sum of money, borrowed with
the intention of paying subsidies on roada
not yet fairly begun ; that sum of money
meantime has been loaned to the different
banks ; is it wie to leave it there whilst we
authorize Commissioners to borrow, or borrow
ourselves, more tocomplote Provincial en-
terprises — in other words, is it wise to be a
lender while we are yet a borrower. Why
should we send the Comniissioners rnto the
market to borrow at, or perhaps below, the
par value of tneir securiiit s, and at six per
cent, interest, when we are lending money at
five ? If we should not, can there bo any
objection to conso idate all these funds, and
authoriise the Executive to use such por-
tion of the funds as are now in ita
hands, and are not wanted or likely to
be wanted for some years, toward the com-
pletion of the ProvJRcial Railway ? I respect-
fully suggest that there is not, and thia con-
Bolidatiou and authority is a prominent feature
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of the projected Consolidated Rail tray Fund
which we propoHe to create, and to pay out
of sach fund the different subriidies an they
art) earned, and to use any sums of mone} ot
now immedittUly n quired for the payment of
subsidies intheccntitructionof the Provincial
line, always carefully rttoininK an ample sum
forallcontinKent demands. We consider this
a wiser course than to allow the Commis-
sioners, in the present state of the mouey
market, to insue the bonds authorized i)y the
Act of laHt seKsion, which could probably
only be disposed of ut a couHi'lerablc discount
and beariuK a higher rate A interest than a
Province of the limited debt and ample re-
sources like ours nhould pay for tho construc-
tion 01 an enterprise belonging to itself, and
which will have to bo, or, lit least, which it is
intended will Iw, met, if not out of the earn-
ings of the road, then out of the Consolidated
Kund. It is expected the line will be running
and yieldiiiK revenue witnin twelve months,
and it is intended that this revenue, over and
above whhi is wanted for working expensfs,
and the inten-st of any bonds (guaranteed by
the Province shall tall into and lorni part of the
new fund. And it maj even happen if the sub-
sidized roads, other than the Levis li Kenne-
bec, the Quebec Central, International, Wa-
terloo & Magog, bouth Eastern, Montreal,
Boston A Portland, St. Lawrence & L»ke
Champlain, and perhaps some < thers which I
have mentioned do not go on, that we will
be able to complete our load without borrow-
ing the whole of this amount or even without
issuing any more bonds whatsoever.
On the other hand, we may and probably will
have to raise money on the bonds, but if we
are obliged to do bo, they will in our hands,
and with a guarantee that the interest and
principal will l)e punctually paid, c mmand
a higher price if negotiated by the Province
than if negotiated by irresponsible commis-
sioners. In the next place, is it right or wise
to retain in our bands the whole of
the balances of money granted to such
roads as have made great progress and
are now arrested by the stagnation of trade,
the tightnetig of the money market and the
timidity of capitalists, and leave the partial-
ly completed sections of these roads to be
worked at great risk to the safety of the gen-
oral public and great loss to the companies ?
(if by modifying the manner of paying these
sutMtidies we might aid them). I again sug-
gest that it is not; that it is our duty to
mod'fy the terms under which they draw iheir
subsidies and to advance to these companies
oat of their subsidies a sum of money which
will enable them to put in good running and
working order the completed portions of
their roads (say an advance of $1,000 per
mile over and above the $4,000 which they
have received or may be now entitled to re-
ceive), and a further sum of raoi^ey out of
the total balance of subsidv ^vhich they have
bad accorded to them for f.ny furthfr porti.^n
of their road, which they may complete here-
after, In such manner and to such extend
that no such advance will leave in the handa
of the Executive a su' less than $2,000 per
m' hereafter to be paid on the poitioa of
suv... road as shall remain thereaftet' to be
complited, and that no more than six thou-
sand dollars should have been advanced
or. any one mile of new road. Thus,
take the Levis and Kennebec of 90
miles, with a subsidy of $3G0,000. If it has
40 miles completed under the present law, it
would be entitled to $160,000, and would
have to receive $200,000 on the balance when
built. Under the present proposal, they
would get, so soon as their road had »een put
in a thoroughly safe state for further service,
$40,000 for the 40 miles done, and if they
completed the next section, say of 20 miles,
they would be entitled to $100,000 over such
portion or $5,000 per mile, leaving
$60,000 in the hands of the Government for
the balance of their road to the Province
line. It is also proposed to amend the tirfit
section ot the Act of lust Bession, Chapter 3,
respecting subsidies ?n money made to cer-
tuiu railways in such manner as to enable
any such guarantee of interest as is therein
authorized to be made to be made, at any
rate not exceeding six per cent, per annum,
in place of limiting it, as it is now limited,
to tive ; but of course, in such case, the gua-
rantee would extend over a shorter period of
time. It is further intended to amend the
second section in such a manner as to allow
any such company at any time before the
completion of their enterprise to return to
the Treasurer any payment of subsidy re-
ceived by it, and to receive a like guarantee
for any such portion of the subsidy returned.
The object of these changes is to give to the
companies every possible facility in availing
themselves of the legislation of last session,
and to make it more elastic, and, we hope,
more effectatious. This is the policy of relief
of the Government for the Levis and Kenne-
bec, Quebec Ceutral and International rail-
way Compatiies, and will form a ieat-
ure in the proposed railway subsi-
dies amendment bill or whatever title
may be given to such bill. I know this U
very much short of the oxpuotations of the
promoters of these enterprises, but the words
of wisdom of my predecessor yet linger in
my ears when he said in his budget speech in
1874 dealing with these vrry railways : — " I
cannot be a party to incurring liabilities to
such an extent as to inteifere with the effici-
ency of the public service or requiring addi-
tional burthens to be placed upon the peo-
ple ;" this, he added with a plaintivenesi
that was almost touching, "is my bounden
duty, au'l one which I feel, being intrusted
to my hands, must be performed even at the
sacritice, it may be of my personal feelings,
or the feelings of some of my friends."
I am sure it \iHl afford my honorable friend
great satisfaction to know that thes*
sacred sentiments of duty are re-
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•pectt'd by hiH HUi;cuHHor. 8u niiiuh
for till! liiilwiiy.-i which wo proiii'Ho
to aid i>y niu(lilyii)^ tliidy. That is to say, wo hhall
snhmit a project to thu [iC^islaturo tlict in
order toaiTorila sontliern outlet for iho tralllc
of the Q M.u! & O. U'lilwiy, if tho Monlreal,
Kogton and Portland Uiiilway will tiko nna-
snren to hring their load down to Longinnil
and enter into rnnnin^; arrangements l>y
which passen>;ers and freight can bo passed
over the two roads respectively at /m rata
faros and rates, and increaso of their subsidy
to $4,000 per inilo from honguenil to tho
Province lino, a distance of Ot miles ; and
further, wo ivill ank of this Legislature to
biing up the subsidii^s of tho »Vaterloo and
Mai;( g and the St. Lin roads to $1,000 per
niiloj potting theiu on a footing of ecpiality
with roa is of their cla^s This will increaso
the d> bt of the I'rovince by a kuih about
equal to the amount which falls into tho
treasury by tho lapsing of subsidy of the Que-
bec trolilier road, wiiiih asyi'U will recollect
is $187,500. Uspecting tlio Missi.-ciuoi and
Hlack Kiver V.illey Raiiioad, it nniht content
itself with an e.\tensi( n of tho lime for en-
abling it to comply with tho Ai t granting it
a subsidy. It really has niiido coniuiciid
able progress, but for the present at bast wo
oiinnot ricommend more. Tho objo^ t which
tho Government has sought to acjomplish in
iu' r asiug the subsidies to these roads was as
I have said, to put them on equal terms with
roads of their class ; next as they were
milking very great efforts to carry out their
w>.rks to assist them in doing so ; and third-
ly, by way of [he I^lontreal, Itoston and Port.
■ land to have an exit independent of the Grand
Truiik from Montreal, ly way of West Farn-
hain, over the Vi rmont Ci-ntral arid the
Waterloo and Magog, to Shcrbrooke, thence
by the Internaiional to tin; I'rovince line, and
thenco by the Consolidated European and
North Am ;rican to St. .John, thus saving a dis-
tance of two hundred miles in the distance
between Montreal and Halifax, and three
hundred between Montreal and St. John, ns
compared with the Intercolonial railway,
and 1.^0 miles hetwoon Quebec and
H ilifax, and 2:!') hutweeii Quebec and St.
.bihu. l''ourtbly, by aiding tin; St. Lin to
add a feeder to tho Norlh Shore lload. Ue-
speiting tho t^uebix' Ki'iitii-r Uaiirnad wo
do not teid thai it is our duty to extend the
delay for its completion, as it has done noth-
ing f.ir itself wo don't foci calbd upon to aid
it; we liavi^ twice extended the tini'- for it
to avail itself of its subsidy without result,
and sie no reason why t.'iat money should not
ho iii-ed to aid the tbrco other roads to take a
position equal to other loads of their elas.-',
iienco the policy we have adopted ; I have
now done, it will be seen we have not
yielded to the clamor which soight to
persuade us to increase the subsidies to cer-
tain roads by sacriluing the rights .if others,
nor have we recklessly add' d to the public
burthens by increasing the subsidii s to roads
which have already i$l,0l)O per mile, convinc-
ed that our present debt is as much as we
ought to bear till such time as our revenue is
increased either by the returns of our Provin-
cial roads or by some other means, and our
credit made firmer abroad by the discovery
that it is Rellishness, malice or envy, or
ignorance, which bads those wiio dc tract from
and di fame the credit of our Province to act
as thoy do and say what they say. With my
preilecessor, I can truly say 1 don't expect that
this sibenie will bo sali.-factory to all, but it
has this merit that it commends itself to the
mature jililgmi'Ut of those who are responsilile
for it : who, moreover, an^ responsible to-
wards the country for what they may propose
to do, and who are responsible to posterity
for the lengths to whiili they may go in
seeking to promote a policy which, originat-
ing in wisdom and pa*-iotism, has perhaps
been pushed further than tho n sources of the
promoters and surplus means at the disposal
of Iho Government would justify. I>o that
as it may, in all and for all I have said I
\ claim thu calm, nnseltish judgment of the
members of this House, and the constitueu-
j cies outside of it, and if we have not done all
; we ought to h'lve done, or if we have
1 (lone more than we propeily could or should
have done, we aoide the judgment
and remain firm in tho conviction of the
faithfulness and integrity of our purposeand
intentions. Mr. Sjoiker, in your hands I
, place my motion, and if I may be permitted
; to say so, in the hands of tho House the res-
ponsibility of accepting or lejecting the po-
licy of the Government. Tho lion, gentle-
man resumed bis seat amid loud applause.
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