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On fhc rcaolution giving the twiire monthn' twlice for the lermination of the joint occupancy of the Oregon territory- Mr. STANTON was cntiiloJ to tlit: flour, anil '•: (after u moment's interruption) procecdcil to addresB , the committee. ! tie said: Mr. Chairman : In the intense anxiety of nu- merous members of the flouse to addres.s the com- mittee upon this momentous question, a proper cs- tiniatc of my personal position and influence would require me to listen rather than to speak. A. dis- cussion of this character, maintained for so loni^ a time, must have an important and immediate influ- ence upon the business occupations and interests of the people of this vast country. But this i«fluence, treat as it is, and by no »^iean.s to be overlooked or espised, is but dust iii 'he balance, compared with those graver consequen( • which will result to this country and the world, it le fears of many gentle- men should be realized, and war sliould follow. Sluj)endous conflicts of nations luid systems — con- flici;* wliich will shake, not only this cauntry, but this globe to its centre — may possibly liang Ufion the issue of tills debate. \ approach this subject of overwhelming magni- tude, with a perfect knowledge of the elight influ- ence my opinions can be expected to have, either upon this House or the country; yet, representing a district of some importance, both in its agricul- tural and conimercia 1 interests — a district compris- ing n portion of the people of a State whose sons have acquired some laurels in war, as well as some dit^tinction in the more quiet walks of peaceful Blate.smaiiship — I feel it to be my duty to trouble the committee with my views upon the .subject now under discussion. Tiio people of Tennessee will not be backward to express their opinions — they ■»-ill not be fearful to maintain them, in whatever •manner and to whatever extent the oci-usion may require. 1 speak for myself. I think I c^n-speait for those of my colleagues with whom I am associa- ted as a member of the .same party. I hope I can speak also for those with whom I am not thus associated. At any rate, I hope «t least lo hear from them before thi' discus.sion ■hall close, and that their views will exuibit a noble ipatriotism, which, upon a great question, involving the honor and interest of the whole nation, will for- tet all personal and party distinctions, and support ie cause of their country with all their known tal- fnis, and with all the ardor and devotion of Tennes- iMr. Cliuirmaii, tlierc^reins to be little diversity of opinion here, as to the question of title between Great Britain and the United StatcP. 1 believe thrty,iit| any moment, to do the very net which th<-sn r?!sohi- ' tions iirc designed to efTect. Mow <'^iii it Ije a w(ir! measure simply to pf-rftirm the solemn stipulations I of an exiKtin;^ tre.'tty" So fir from .such nconi-Ju-. aion beinir at all jiistifiitMe, iliore i^' on the coi.trury, not the Iciist untVi(;ndlin<.w.s in the measure rcci)ni- [ mended by the Prt.sidciit, and reported by tlie dis-; tins;uishe(l fhairniui of the Cotviniittec on Foreijjn , AiTairH. It iH a ^lipuliitcd li^lu, which Eiifr'ar.d may ' exerci'f; at any nionienl without any |proviiratioM to ' ■us, and wlii( h we ni.ty lilc> wise claim witliout >jiv- j inj; her any ju.-t cans,; ol' ofleuce. Im ikh tins prop-i oailion <■''■, irr Anil yet '^ontl.nien have repeatriljy ! and hoM y asfrrted the contrary, i di;n!(iiid lo kuow ' ■why this m"a.-iire is called ii war measure? 1 re- quire, at lea.st, Nomeattempl at [ilauiiliU rea.soiiiii£; to UuKlaii) the aR'erti'iu. I have lif-iencd with the utmost j>.it;i;tior. I heard them auB.sert ii:;iin aial .v^au!, tha' tliis measure is (([uiva- Icnt to v.ar, and I hopcf! they would allejije norne reason for [ha as.^ertion. I was v/hnlly disappointed. This as-^iimption was made the basis of almost the whole of their ar'.'umnnts, and yet, I must cruifesa, I ■wa.s unable to see the Klren2;th of v i foundation Tupon wl'.i'li their leautifn! siiper.struetiire.s were reared. I m.iint.iin, sir, that the bunk^n of proof and of arj^iimont rests upon tlicm. I5efore we can assent to their |>ronn.'-ition, they must make ut least n priinrrfa(:ii> •lii.r.c^ and siiow why a measure pro- vided for in the exiatin!,' convention between the eontendipf; p.\rtio?, can be con.sidcred a warlike pro- cedure, f in.vite any ireiitleman to lake up the ar- gument v,-!iere they have left it, and make good the assertion which they hav^; evidently failed to sus- tain. The dis'oiijui.shed and r!oc|uent ger.tlemaii from Alaha.rn [Mr. YAvrnT] a.sserted that the convention \ias adopti-d ;>s a substitute for war, leaving the in- fererico to be drawn, that in the abMence of the con- ▼nntion, \^cr mi st . rce.s.i'inii for this assertion as for the oth<^r. If this propo'^ition be true, its con- yp.Tue may likewise be affirmed; and it follows, that we would have gone to war upon our own rejection of England's oflers. But, sir, the rejection of an offer, on one side or the other, does not preclude further offers, nor does it ne- cessarily imply that the parties will then resort to the last dread alternative of war. Jt does not pre- «!ude the possibility tlint one party will, at the criti- cal moment, abandon it.s unjust clairaa, and leave the other to the enjoyment of its rights. S'jrely, sir, there i.-j nothing in these assertions which can eatab' lish the jiro[)riety of entering into, or continuing, an agreement, the only effect of which has been, and \,ill continue u> be, to involve the parties in rtli- lioiis more conijilex and diflicult of settlement than befoi". Nevt,.t!ieles3, sir, 1 must acknowledge tliat, if England per.'-i.s'.s 1(1 attem|)ting tohold all the terri- tory nortli of the Columbia river, or any portion o. it .south of the ■\'.)i\[ parallel of latitude, warmust ne- cessarily ( ome. Hut this will be not on account of notice; war will en.siie Vinder these circumstan- sta.(,-/-s, with or without notice. We can never sub- mit to suc-h a claim on the part of Knglanu. Tho v\iir which she may wage in asserting that claim will b(! ;'. war of a.;gr<;.=!siim and invasion — a war which we must meet, as we would sternly meet the iinaderof thisCapitcd. I say it would be a war i»f iiiva.sion. And i.o show my exact meaning, 1 mist be iieiiiiiitcd to digrcs^-i here for a while, to make some stat:imentr! in rcferenc to the title. 1 hold that Eogl.ind has iiojust t.tle to any portion of Or- egon. But her most jilausible ground of preten- .-^^ion would be by that of contiguity, extending her possessions in North America by the 4yth parallel to the Pacific. iN'ow, ifthcCanadas actually ex- tended on the lino of 49*^ to the Rocky mountains, and the English government were actually pres- ent with its people and its power on the noith of that line, and the two nations stood upon equal looting in regard to other uources of title, tlien Fiiiglaud might justly claim to extend her territory- on that line to the ocean. l?ut none of these condi- tions actually exist. The Canadns do not extend on that line to the Rocky mountains — England i.s not present with her people and her government on this continent, and she does not stand upon an equal footing as to other grounds of title. The country contiguous to that part of Oregon, north of 49°, i.-' the possession of the Hudson Bay Company, and cannot be extended by this principle of contiguity. The argument in this respect has lately been placed in a strong light. That company is a mere incorpo- ration, and is .subject to the limits prescribed by itf charter, which is the law of its creation. That char- tar originally confined the company to IludaonV bay and its tributaries; and these limits cannot by any torture of construction be extended to those wa ters which fall over on the other side of the Rocky mounuiins into the Pacific ocean. An artificial per- son, u corporation, cjinnot overleap its j)rescrib€« powers ; it cannot therefore extend its territories by the principle of contiguity. This is a well-settlwi principle of Engli.sh common law; it is a principk which may well be adopted — indeed muni be admit- ted, into the law of nations. But I assume higher ground; I maintain, if this principle did not stanil in the way — if the charter o' the company as originally granted did not circum- scribe its limits vithin that vast basin in the uppci part of North America of which Hudson's bay i- the centre, still it is not just, it never can be admit- ted, that a nation on another continent shall extend its possesions on this by contiguity. If the Cana das themselves bordered on this disputed country and the circumstances of the two t ountries wen otherwise equal, 1 should earnestly disputt the ap plicability of this principle. In the very nature o tilings it ie %Tong. iSir, the ma^elic wires canno" ^' claims, and leiivc the ighta. S-jrely, sir, ins wliich can ealib' nto, or coiilinuing, vhicli has been, and the pnrtics in rtli- of fH(;t,t!ement then \nowled»e tliat, if ohold all the terri- r, or any portion o. ti tilde, war must nc- s not on account of thrsi; circunistan- We can nf.ver yiili- uf luiglan.i. Th<: i''S(Ttinij that claim J invasion — a war lid Htcriiiy meet the '. would be tt war of H meaning, I inaKt r a while, to make o the title. I hold any portion of Or- ^Tound of preten- uity, extending her f the 4'Jth parallel lada.s actually ex- Rocky niouniains. ere actually pres- >wer on the noitli lions stood upon jurces of title, tlien ixtcnd her territory ine of these condi- dns do not extend ntains — England i.s her government on tand upon an equal tie. The country 111, north of 49°, i? Jay Company, and ;iple of contiguity. lately been placed ia a mere incorpo- prescribed by it/= eation. That char- •any to IludsonV )e limits cannot bj .ended to those wa- side of the Rocky An artificial per- tap its j)rescrib€(! d its territories by is a well-settlei! ; it is a principle :ed musl be admit maintain, if tht^ -if the charter o' did not circum- aain in the uppci IIudson'.s bay i- ver can be admit- nent shall extenii y. If the Cana [iaputed country o ( ountries wen Y dispute the ap he very nature o etic wires caano be extended across the Atlantic ooean— the all per- vading influence of electricity is slopped there, and its niyiitcrious voice is droviied in the noise of ihi fii'.i-gc that heats our .shore. Is the invisible powci of Eiij;lanil more pcnctratingand pervading than the universal a^cnt I have named? Or nilherdo the siieni emanations; of her power circulate aiound the wlioU- globe, (like those mighty currents which give po- larity to tin: earth am! direct tli : needle,) caiisiiij; every intcru.-<', ni every land, 1o turn trcmblinir upon iiH centre, and p lint to London as its pole.' Arc there no barricr.s.' Do its iiUangiWc links cxtciiul throu'^ii all occan:^, over till laiidti, enabling her to {;as|)n^;w countries, am! divide ihciu with conti;j;u- oi'^i pr/V/or:^, !i(,caiK-(; she has a foottiold by llicir Hide.' 'rhi! law wliich makcH the ocean a bairici- to instantaneous comi'iuiiicaiioii beiw<'en nations — the ]hw of mitiirt', wliich has f;e|iaiat('d continents by jriterp im!.;; v.isiiiliys.-ics, i'lriml.-i that. natiiMi,'^. o'l '.pi^ contiiicii! . ; ail iia> 3 rii^lii.s on another liy ifn(i'i- cation, < Alci.nion, fonti^niiiy, or by any i.'tiicr in visible, inrnM^iiilc, mct.-iphysii'al |»riiici|)le whatever. England lias a'.lcni|itc(J to cari y out on this con- tinerU, by tliplomacy, the firinciples which she has cstablishtd !iy the sword in her East India .",'- gression. It remains to be seen whether, when r. plomai y fails, slic will attempt to u.^e the san.e means hppc. The United Slates owe it to them selves — ilicy owe it to this continent, and the world — to rei'ist the application of those principles. The powers ofiheOIJ World, upon the discovery of thi.s contineiu, adopted principles for its divisic.^ among them- el ve,'; they may liave been bound to eaih other fur tiie maintenai"' of those principles. Nay, those princi[ilcs may have been ju.it and wise in their ajiplication to such nations, distant as they were from the wild and uncultivated countries which they sought to apfiropriate. Yet it does not follow that we are to be bound by these conven- tional arrangements. Our relations to this continent are widely liifTerent. We have arisen here, a mighty nation, fast approaching, and des'ined soon to sur- pass, the greatness of any European power. We have undisputed rightful possession of a large por- tion of thi.s continent, and neither reason nor autho- rity will admit that the government of any unap- propriated portion of it should be transferred to n distant nation. I hope I shall be underatood. I do not mean to adopt that ground of title which has been as- Bumetl here by some, gentlemen, under the imposing name of m(j)it/«s< desliny. It was the manifest des- tiny of England to s[iread her empire over a large portion rf this continent, and of Asia. But that des- tiny, m.ide manifest by complete fulfilment and per- fect realization, neither commends itself to our minds as right, nor does it justify the arbitrary and oppressive measures by which it has been achieved. 1 believe it is our destiny to possess the whole of Oregon; liut this destiny does not make it right; it is our destiny, because it is right. It is not necessary to nam;: the principle I have attempted to state, nor does it require any course of reasoning to estixblish it. It is one of those propositions of which the bare Btatement carries conviction to the mind. It is an axiom in political science, as applied to this conti- nent, and must receive universal assent, because it js based upon the law of nature. It is the same principle, in effect, which Mr. Monroe stated when 1m denied the right of European nations to make further colonies on this continent, and which the President, in hU late message, has again so appro- priately and opportunely asserted in tlie face of the world. If .lure Ive any force in my reasoning, Mr. riiiir- tn..'!, It t'ollow:) as a clear int'ercnie that a war p;.ii- ci'i cd by Great Britain /be any part o( Oregon would be a war of ag!;rcssion. And it would l)U u monstrous UMirfinioii, a gross and blast- ing shame to humanity, ^:uro.■n^;ing nil the bounds of ordinary crimi^, if England should ieterminc to wa:^c war uooo us for any part of the territory belnto the iOtli paralUL And, sir, i repeat, ifhucli l)e the dif oosiiion of the British govenuiient, ifsucli be iior foregone dotorininatioii, tiie war must and Will come, with or wiiliout notice. E-ingland would I)e rcsp insi'jlii to the Wi)rld — lo Heaven — for iliK (li.s.i.-itrou < consoquciiies tif miv.U a war. It would be but anotlier ciime of feuil'ul magnitude uiide.l t.) tint alre;idy mouriliunous lna^iS of (Vaud ,iml iui". ;)c by which l^ni^'isnl li.u Iieieiolore extend- ed her [lower, an-l Ijy w'lih o!ie now rniintain-i it. Old s.ini.; geiu'cinin sny her crimes were rel)re^enl- ed by u va.st pyramid ofliiiniin -skulLs? I .--ay, sir, lii lior by a imsje pyramid of human hearts, living, yi;t beaiing and b'eediig in airoiiy, as they are lorn from th.i reeking bo.-ioiiis of the toiling, fighting millions! It is said, it" ilii-J war come.s, it will be no ordina- ry war. It will be a war in which the despotisms of the Old W|)C cannot be expei'lid to live mnrii longer; and that the Bi'ili.
  • l"ndid troverninent. Sir, when these things are duly weii;lied, the tcrmi- nn'ion of such a contest m.iy not be quite so unfa- voral)le to us as some gentleineii iriia.'j;ine. If wav bn fearful to us, it i-i efjoally t'oraiidable to England. She is not in a situation to court war. We never have, we never shall court it. Gentlemen Hf.eak of the preparation of Entjiand, and our want of it. They point to the .xteam fl ;et o!' that haughty finiion, and te'll us it will !;!ow our navy tMit of tlie water, and demolish our citje-\ I shall make but one rcmurk on this subject. It i« furtunate for us, that we have not fritterred -i lay our strength and our means in mairitaining lart^o standing armies, and building mighty fli-ets. For this is an age in which great inventions have been made. Man has been calling to his aid, and subdu- ing to his purposes, the tremendous powers of ele- mental nature. And if I am not greatly mistaken, there are now spirits at work in this Capitol whose inventions, sanctioned by scientific minds and ap- provid by practical men, will supersede any former combination of forces, and render the boasted Brit- ish navy comparatively clumsy and powerless. K rt!« gOTcrnmcnt way not hare the wi&dom to ouiopt them. Thai remains to be acen. At all f»venfH, Hir, we never can, perhaps we never ought, to be beinr prepared for war than we are hI present, except when the occaaion itself shall imperiouwiy dc- i niand the preparation. It is only at a crisis like ! this, when we shall be suddenly brouglit into dun- ' gcr of conflict with other powerH, that our slnuKi*!' I energies will be iiwakrnrd. Lei tlie hour of action I come, and ihi.^ great nation will create fleets and col- 1 lect arraiw', with a celt.rity which will astonish the ■world. Sir, 1 hope the occasion will not come; I believe it will not; I Ivimw it cannot, unless Eng- land shall wantonly invade our rights. But gcntlefiian, in this ddiatc, have endeavored to I look into the fuliirc, and calculate the consequences I of war to our free in.-ititution.s. Doubtless war must ■ tend to str.'ni^tlicit the centr.nl power, and it cinnot J by any mciui.s be the element in which our institu- tions will llourish bci>l. I deplore the havoc , the exhaustion, the taxes, the debt, that must be the result of sie'li a stru.g'rle. Vet our coun- try was nurtur( e the extension of our laws over our citi'/.ena in Orogon: England has long since dcuie the same thing. Will it be the erection of fiu-ts within the territory.' England already has there her -fortified stations. Wliat measures have oeen proposed whicii can possibly be objected to.' Is it the occupa- tion of t)regon by en'' ; froiu tlieUnitf il States? It this be the fancied d' war, I do not see why we, who desire to g' notice, can be more re- sponsible for it than ihey who oppose it; for notone of tlie opponents of this measure has failed to say that our pojiulation would finally settle the right to the whole of Oregon. Tiien, 't I understand them correctly, they are for occupying the whole of Oregon as well a^ v.e. Sonic of lliom, in- deed, have exprcs.sed a perfect willing nes.s to do everything that has been j-roposed, except the giving of this notice. I cani;ot but think there IS some little inconsistency in these two po- Bitions. If those measures will excite England to war u'ilh notice, will they not do so u-'ilhoul notice? Alight not England, perhaps, ccnuplain of a viola- tion on our part of cxistingtreaty stipulations? And would not this be a pretext for war, which would not exist after the treaty shall have been terminated by the the stipulated notice? I ask, sir, what we have proposed to do, that all other gentlcinen in this House are not willing to do. leaving out of view the notice.' There is nothing. .~:ir; and as the notice, of itself, is evidently not war, those gentlemen are as ready to plunge the country into a war as we, for they would do everytliing of a warlike nature M/hirh we propose to do. Mr, Oliaiman, I do not believe this notice W; produce war. I believe, on the contrary, it wi tend to hasten the peaceable adjustment of the (jucf tioii. Am I required to sny why I beiieve this? might w'-ll answer, that we have been negotiatir.hi" ^[ under the existing convention for more than a quarp*^*' irr of a century, and yet we have made no progres j'j ^ v;halever in the business. 1 might well argue iIkiF^'^^ our experience has proved that the eonveniions, t-^cf a "-l far from assisting the negotiations, have reiardc' •*l"''' them. Sir, during this long period, the life of a gen ^ us. eration, diplomacy has exhausted itself. It is timlb^''"' to cease this diploniatic trifling. It is lime to asser iway our rights, and firmly to maintain them. In orderIB — -i| to do this, wo must change the face of things. VVi ty up nuist alter the circumstanr'es by which sve havi Vug"'] heretofore been fettered. We muat brush away tin "*^ ^' eohwebs whi'h havi; been sufl'ered to be woTcn ovet Cause the pulijecl, obscuring the vision both of Ei ;.'lair. *!f®"'' and i>urselves. i ask if there be not force in thi; •"'Ci, position? We have tried negotiation unde; **"'^,^', a period long eni iigh t( SCttleij such questions, if theri disposition on l.'Oth •.■\t\c>. we not now try wliai in the absence of thc.s these conventions, for have .>ctlled a do/.en had been any real to settle it. Shall .success we shall have course commends itself to oui Have tried the one with complete y^,"^", us try the other. JMay we not at conventions? Tlii.^ judgment. Wc failure — now let least hope for better success in the altered 'inum- stances' What will be the fence and power of tin; new circumstances which wc propose to bring about? When this notice shall have been given, the United States and England will stand unirammel- led — relieved from all emiiarrassing agreements what- ever — naked before tlie world — each standing upou its own proper rights. They will stand face to face, looking each other in the eye, and perfectly con- scious of the dread alternative which will follow u failure to adjust the dis[«ute by a treaty. They will deeply feel the absolute and pressing necessity of amicable action. Shall we not bring it to this crisis? Does any one fear it? I acknowledge it i.-i dangerous; but not more dangerous than a tardy and temporizing policy. Here are Sylla and Charybdis. VVe must ]iass. Shall we not grasp the helm stern- ly and firmly, trusting to our prudence and skill to guide us through the dangerous abyss? — or .shall we beat about listlessly, backwards and forwards, un- certain what shall be our course, yet perfectly con- scious that sooner or later we must endure the peril? Sir, when things shall be brought to this point, must war necessarily follow? In the lOth century, with all its boa.sted civili7,ation and morality, must two great nations fear to come tip boldly to the ad- justment of a great question, lest a deadly conflict may ensue? Can England go to war in the face of the late correspondence between her minister and ours? I ('.insert she cannot, she will not. To main- tain that -die will, argues a want of confidence in the strength of our title, which nearly every gentle- man here has admitted to be clear and unquestiona- ble. When England shall see that this lone* exist- ing negotiation must be settled, promptly and fairly, she will be willing to make a settlement «f it, which we may honorably accept. The honorable gentle- man from Georgia, [Mr. Cobb,] who comes to the .same conclusion that I do, said the other day, that England would never accept the proposition made by Mr. Polk. Doubtless she will not, so long a,t this convention shall remain. Perliape it is not her interest to do so. iS'eithcr will .'3hc, as Mr. Polk in 9team| thcntil ftruct| our made: take Bity t any a by sn ■what ■ubje. lon;j iice il upon ly an sertiiij fight-^ for ni Presii ought ever c Bui the V pofiivi favori sion Engli eheis enhiij •well half I nor t light aver «poi that con\ Bay patii that bclii land thin mu' ■wit! inui the ■wil set cor sib thii elicve this notice w; the contrary, it wi 7 djuatment of the quee vliy I beueve thia? have been negotiatiiihis message dsdares, make any ofTer which we could least remain as they will be now upon the termina* for more than a qunrp«s*>bly accept. But, sir, I have but little judgment, tion of this convention, since it will not better them ave made no pro»refi if, when the convention shall be terminated, and this to continue it. night well argufTthapeat question shall press upon her with the weight | But it is not only in this manner that England is t the conviiKioiis, K(«f a dr»;adful alternative, phe do not then agree to strengthenipg herself in the Oregon territory. She ationa, have iMardei ■ettle it upon terms which ought to bo satisfactory is increjising her population; she is erecting for- •rio'l, the life of a "•en to "S- I oo not mean that she will be frightened or i tifications; she is arming and manning them. It is itfd il.«f:|f. It i.^ Umbu""''! '"'" H'rms; but I uican, that slie will be j well known there are no American settlements • If is time to asser ■waypd by the same motives which ought to away 'north of »he Columbia river, and American citizens 'ill them. In oidetUa — a desire to avoid war, and to adjust the difllcul- j will not be permitted to settle there, if they should, face nf thip'^'s. Wi ty upon a basis that shall be fair and honest. Adis-iimdor present circumstances, even desire to do so. by wlii(;h\ve hav, tinguished gentleman from Virginia, [Mr. HovrKu] Cut ihey will not do so, for the simple reason that mujt l)rusli !iw(\y tin has .said, he will not ngrce to give this notice, be- 1 they do not feel secure. They are not satisfied of " " ■' ■' the policy of this governmeni, in reference to that )olicy of thi >e not force negotiation uiidc; od lonj.'- ei!<;ii^'li t( quc.siion:<, if "t|,et( lion on both miIcs t now try wiutt ; absence of ilic.s iiniend.s itself to our part of the territory le IS so well satisfied of the strength of i until this governnipnt shall take some step which iX'd to he wo?« n'ovei Cause, if it will not bring war, it will force the settle on both of El irljiiiL went of the question ujwn the basis of the 49th par in (hi; slid, and ' " ■■ "^ ' -• -• - • our title to the whole, that he would deplore such a will assure them settlement of the dispute. Suppose, sir, th not gentlemen know the military orsnni/.ntion and formidiiljle power of that monstrous corporation, whirl) seeks to run tiio. career of ii.s tjieat prototype, ihc EiJst India Tonipnoy, that oprratos ju^t over on the oilier s dc of the I'acific." I find, Ar, in l!ic fourth volume of the narrative. of the tjcploriui; (■• prdition, aeopy of llieoi'lii,Mtii>n which the HudKon Bay Company requires of nil ii.- serviintH. They i;ivc their hoiids "to deiute their whole time and laljur to the .service of the compa- ny;" "to perforin all work or service, l)y day or hy niKht," "to ol)ey a!! onlers;"' "willi euur.(;4e aiiJ fidelity to defend tlic prdperlv of paid company — their (^»j'iio?"tVs iind lactorie^j;'" "to defend the rk>-ltls and piivilef^es o'^ said (company;'' "atid, if required, to enrol as soldiers, and attt iid all drills and exercihc.-' necessary to ucqitire a knowledge of the dutieiJ re- quired," Ac. Here ia a perfect military ori;an;/.a- tion, and it exhibits very plainly what are the de- signs of that monstious company. It wains w^ tli,a our advancin,'; tide of population will nut lie fiemiit- ted to trespass upon wiial it considers its territories. Is not tliis the true state of thinjis in that dictant region? If it be not, why arc our pfO[)le callinii opon us for aid and prjf.ection? Why do our peo- ple all settle south of the Columbia.' and why are they dependent upon tlie Hudson Bay Company ft)r all their commerce: When will these thintrs be altered, if this convention shall continue.' When will our people begin to settle north of the Columbia river? But, sir, En£;land knows very well tli'^ .situation of things in Oregon. She in, perhaps, better in- formed than we. If she is ready now to fioht for this country — if she ha."? made h-^r determination not to {^ive it up without a great contest — and if we, as gentlemen .suppose, arc gaining by the existing arrargeraent— will she not u-rminate it herself? But when did England ever make the first movement towards that men.siiie? Now this is a plain prop- osition: if England will go to war r.uher than yield u.^ our lights, and if we siiall certainly advance lownrds the acquisition of the territory, by the existing convention, then she will lier.,ue thi.s course, if she holds on to the convention, I argue that she, at least, does not believe time will benefit us more than her. And I, sir, am disposed to learn wisdom from her example — believing that where our interests arc op- pof-ite, our policy ought to be also. If she would hold on to the convention, I would instantly termi- nate it. It is, perhaps, scarcely necessary to say Mnythinsf of the amendment proposed by the gentleman from .Mab^mu [Mr. IIii,i.iaiu>|. I consider it of no con- serpience. If its object or its effect be, as some gentlemen allege, to throw the responsibility ofl the shoulders of this House, I have no di:ripoaltioii thus to evade a duly which belongs to me. 1 ac- cept my share of the responsibility, knowing that whatever may be the conueqiienci' — whether peace or war ensue — the cause of our country ih just in the sight of God and man. But the amendment i.s of little importaiicp, since iht; President has already, ill his ines.-age, told us he believes now is the ap- firopriate time to give the notice. Should the reso- lution, with the amendment, be adopted to-day, he would give the notice lo-iiiorrow. It might weaken ihe influence of the Oieasure ufani llie action of Britain. She might well suppo.se that the legislature of the nation had exhilii'.Ci; less firmness than the Executive, and that it would ;reml)le, in a certain contingeni'y, to su.stain him by those ulterior meaa- iirt.: which the crisis might render indispensable. I hope we shall present an unbroken front — that we shall fully sustain the President, not only in the noble stand he has already taken, but in all other measures which the honor and security of our com- tnon country may at any time require. Mr. Chairman, 1 luive said all 1 have to say on this subject. 1 cannot lay claim to any practical ex- perience in statesmanship. The reasoning I have attempted, has satisfied me that the proposod notice cannot, of itself, affect the q^'eslion of peace or war, and that every consideration of policy and interest, requires us to give it without delay. I respect the opinions of those dilfcr from ine, and I .fjincerely regret that such diiVerences exist. I shall follow my ov,r. convictions with a due sense of the solemn responsibilities under which I act, leaving others the same liberty which I claim, without suffering my- self, for a moment to doubt their integrity, and pa- triotism. 1 solt innly believe that gentlemen who think- war will come are mistaken. J earnestly pray that peace may continue to waive hi r golden wings, and scat- ter her rich blessings over our happy country, and that those bright visions, which gentlemen have pic- tured as destined to gladden our hearts, under the auspicious eye of this hovering angel, may liever be blasted by the l-lood-staiiied demini of war. I woo the favor, and the continued presence of this guar- dian spirit, with my deepest devotion. I would sa- (•nti