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HAM, « moment 4r.J. R. andment ^ ; «rhich wa ttollfd ly t Dnitfd Statti President of ■iied to opei otiatjon witl pOBe of term ch was entei 6th of AugU! At. HAMI committee h« consider them, he l momentous intereetg th; iffected for *ng decisioi millions of 3, and thai ■a beating ch they we leaid by th setta, [Mr. ; there had i lid not be, a igress eqnal 4fore proc( question, h ks to reply, zentlemen y, 1 first, he c rtfly in the s nediately pr and the coui 1 it should b( r, WAR, had oed over out ■ body; and e these ech cared not w )« walls— wl where— he s uty by that s efore, and up other end o] i there under rit that had tl '• a measure e 1 It ■« Ik SPEECH. dr. HAMLIN obtained the floor, but yielded it • momeni to ix. J. R. INGERSOLL, who rave notice of an endment which he should oner when in or- ; which was read us follows . ! e$olvrd l.y thi Sniate and Houie cf Rfpicstntativtt of i {Jnitrd Statfs nf ifmen'co in CcnureFs assembled, That I President of the United States be, and he hereby is, an- j ized to open, at such time aii he may deem expedient, a j otiation with the government of (ireat Britain for the p«se of terminating, by mutual consent, the convention I ch was entered in'O between the two governraentK on 6th of August, 1827. ' ir. HAMLIN resumed the floor, and addres-sed committee during the allotted hour. He came he consideration of the question now presented them, he trusted, with a full understanding of momentous importance, and of the magnitude of interests that were committed to their hands to iffected for weal or for wo by the right or the >ng decision of this question. The eyes oftwen- millions of people were watching their action J, and the hearts of twenty millions of freemen •a beating with anxiety as to the action at ch they wene finally to arrive; and it had been I eaid by the venerable gentleman from Masea- setta, [Mr. Adams,] that for years that were ; there had not been, and for years to come there lid not be, a question submitted to the American igress eqnal in its moment, equal in its impor- ■*. efore proceeding directly to the discussion of question, he designed to "refer, and in a few te- les to reply, to positions which had been taken wntlemen wlio had preceded him in this debate. 1 first, he concurred most cheerfully and most rtily in the sentiments of the gentlemen who had nediately preceded him in relation to the charac- and the course the debate had assumed, and by I it should be diverted to no improper direction. r, WAR, had been shouted within these walls and oed over our vast country, to re-act again upon i body; and by whom, and on what authority e these echoes sent abroad through the land' cared not whether the shout came up within 19 walls — whether it was manufactured here or where — he should not be diverted from his path uty by that stale and senseless cry. He had heard efore, and upon this same subject years ago in other end of this Capitol. When this subject i there under discussion, it was ihe same master- rit that had then raised this cry of war, war to de- ;« Rieasure extending our laws over the Oregon territory. He referred to a bill prepared by the laic and lamented Doct. Linn. Why was it that gentle- men assumed this position.' — a position which neith- er the facts here or elsewhere justified, and a position taken in order to produce a panic. Rome nad her punic wars, but it was reserved for us to have our panic wars. Let us examine (continued Mr. H.) briefly the position of the question before us. In 1818, a cer- tain convention was entered into between the respec- tive governments of the United States and Great Britain, relative to the territory upon our northwest coast, known as the Oregon territory. That treaty was, by its own limitations, to remain in force but ten yeara. In 1827 it was renewed by a treaty which was to be terminated whenever either of thic two high contracting parties should give twelve months' notice of their desire for it. And now, for- sooth, because we come here in thf^ way marked out by the treaty to exercise the power thus specially provided for in that treaty, we arc to be met as the war party ! 1 repel the imputation, and I hur! ic back again, (.said Mr. H.) It is that very cry in and of itself that tends more to produce a war than any other course which cun be taken here. We on thiia side of the House are the peace-parly. Timid coun- sels tend to war — "fear admitted to our councils be- trays like treason." I cannot sympathize, then, with gentlemen who use this argument, although they may use it honestly: nor will I permit it to di- vert this discussion, so far as 1 am concerned, from its true nnd legitimate track. We ask nothing on this side of the House but the exercise of our confsti- tutional rights — rights that are pointed out and de- fined by the very treaty under which we are act- ing. And is it true that the exercise of these rights, as we propo-se it, is any cause of war? No, Sir. " Old men see visions, and young men dream dreams," the gentleman from Virginia, [Mr. Hunter] tells us ; and my word for it, it was but the dream of the gentleman's waking hours when he made his panic-war speech, on the ground that this notice was a measure designed in anyway or calculated to be a war measure. While with gen- tlemen in all parts of this House, he most cheerfully concurred that peace was to be desired above every- thing else,save the preservation of our national domain and our national honor, he (Mr. H.) did not hold war to be an evil from which they should shrink, when the preservation of our national rights and our nation- al honor demanded it. If we were to be deterred from exercising our constitutional rights by that stale clamor, then how long would it be before we would X U O 1 lie stripped of every right wc do posswia by inviting other governments to aggrciiEionn upon us.- Analyze the mtittcr carefully and it could not be mistaken. It was Buch "stuiT' in fact as dreams were made of. And it hardly bcci\me gentlemen, thus in terror, to Hound the note of war now, when we were dealing with a ration worthy to be our foe. For it would i;ot be forgotten, when a fear of collision with a neighboring province was anticipated — a provinre m» miserably weak as to incur the contempt i. fa great nation — then there were no dreams to dia- turb our nerves, but action — immndiatt action — was the rally cry, come what might. Certainly our course should not now be retarded; for we should Chen suffer a just reproach. Let ua be as firm and consistent in ''aelion^^ now. There was another remark to which he wished to allude. Too often within these walls, in the discus- sion of varioua measures, l>ad he heard t-'uintsand reproaches, eilh the Amel Kurc a safeguard, and a pledge of protection, as) into thail cry, "I am ,i Roman citi'.en" was in the paj4 to rcfl days of Rome; It was said by an ancient phile,jconsiderl pher that the government which feels most ■»«» f>08itiorr bly, and which redresses most promptly, everyf England jury visited by a foreign power upon its liie. This! humble citizen, best discharged the duties ilea establl cumbent upon it. And is it not truly so? What, Komine cal greater degree than the strict discharge of itsdutial point ol us citizens will call forth theiraffectiona and their asion with! ally, and will draw them forth to protect the ins'Xtend ourl tioiis and defend the standard of their common cciurpose of I try ill the hour of that country's peril? The citfae cotton-^ who realizes the full assurance that his rights la broad as iilways be defended with a sleepless vigilance, mj[i^< to the in his turn, ever be ready to discharge with protH the repr nc'-'s and fideiitv all the duties that country ina'^Oun'ry- quire of him. ' .he rules es How, then , is oi:r iroveniinent to extend that ^^' consi e tection. and that aid which are renuired from l^orluern at its citizens, to those wanderers to the distant portic'^^''"'^'"'^ its territory westward uf the Rocky mountains. '**^> .. those citizens liave been wrested from Amer'r''^ *^ ."^^ soil to be tried for alleged offences by foreign their citizer They have been dragged from their peaceful ho:6.^'^" _^, ■ from their own domestic firesides, and iiave :"''•? V < tried and held amenable to the laws of British p'?*\v'^^r inces; and here, in the lOth century, from this -^ '^.' • clamor of war ringing in our e-i.rs, are we to '^^{i I'l and fold our arms about us, and say ''^^''^'^'^. .ui- n pause a while before we give this notice. We ■.T^'^^ _ , loiuse the lion in hio lair. England with her c'P.j"^^', of military po,sty aroi'iul the world may be aroi; ■.,. Uo ij and we do not preciaelv foresee what wiUbe?''/,/ ., ,, ' IV- ..•' ,• u ij I let them nt consequences:' JNo; the notice should be gi "1 „„,,or.rt now, and protcciioii to American citizens shouli j ' extended v, licrever they are found on American ^J, ■ i and then that flaj; that had been borne aloft in trim , . „ ,u 1 c 1 ^ .1 I I ir.ust be tn III tl;c b.itUe and in the breeze, ut-on the oceaii , ..„, .., .u 1 I .1 III- . .• P' ffi'ow the staple produce of thatcountry; anct itury, from this ^^^^ VVest may be the graiiary not only of our own e-i.rs are we to '^'^''""y' ^"^' ^'^'^ '' '*" ^i"'"^'- the granary of the and say ••We^'^'"'''' Then, he said, in a commercial point of s notice. We ■'*^'^^' '^'^ matter came home to the feelings a..d the Hand with her c'P'^''^'*^ "^ *'^^''y c'^'zen of every sectior. of our rid niay be arou'*'"''^'''y'''^"'"''^'' '^"^'""'y" '^'"^ North must neces- see what vviU be'^'^''y ''^ ''^^ '^^""^'*'^'"'"'"8 section of this Uuion: ce should be » '*' them have on outlet; let there be an easy mode of in citizens shout "fo-'^sportation and communication to the far West, id on American *'"^ ^^ would become the manufacturers almost ■of the world. Tlie northern aiid the middle Stales tli.w„.n.>. ntercourse with us, she would consume a vast qiiimtity of our products, while they would supply us liberally with theirs. Who could tell what uncounted millions of manu- factured goodd from the United States would be marketed in the East Indies ? Commerce was therefore deeply interested in preserving the integ- rity of our ih^main. He wnL-.ld gladly pursue thi»s subject further if time was allowed, and show that this question was one that concerned the cDmmerce of the whole country, and that the whole people of the United Stales were interested in it. But he wau limited in time, and he could not pursue the tiubject in all it.s dttail>. lie was in favor ofgiving this notice, as he had already declared. He was in favor of giving it now. I"'or this cour.se ho would give reasons. Eirst, he trusted that by giving the notice, the danger of de- lay and of obstruction in our councils would be obviated. The gentleniun who had immediately preceded him in the deliate, [Mr. Toombs,] prefer- red the nrncndment of the gentleman from Alaba- ma [Mr. Hii-LiMio,] which left it discretionary with the President to give the notice at such lime as he might sec fit. That would lead to serious* difficul- ties. He Wduld say that thi.? propus.aon came with no good design, so fa.- as hr- could judge of it, though ho had no doubt of the iionorable motives of the gen- tleman who oflfcred it. It would change the issue which ouglitto be made. Instead of inquiring wheth- er wc would act and act now, wc would, by this course, give a discretionary power to the Executive tiy act or not, and either now or at a later period. Some would think tliat the President had acted too soon if he acted now. Others would think that he had acted too late if he posstpoued it. It would give an opportunity to many to shelter tiiein^elves from responsibility, and to reproach the President witli having r.cted out of lime. The true question was whether we should gi\-e the notice nuw. Should wc afisume the responsibility of action, or throw it upon the President? That was an important ques- tion. Why should not we lake upon ourseivea the responsibility of actjon in the matter? Many gentlemen wished to shift the responsibil- ity off frora ihemsevw^s, and then, if the President. promptly, they would lay, lie was rash, imprudent, hnatyi und if he waited tor a while, they would « drive out all competition; and thus they would I jj come established on a firm foundation, without i** ^^ aid of a black tariff to maintain them. He '"**1 IJHi'*" est! ways opposed internal improvemenla by the g*n• I mercial purposes. In a military point of tiew, ^J? "IJon 1 a defence to the country, it would be far more **jj^*no Jl cient than battlements along the coast. f^. ' Should the United States delay to do th? r .Ug , duty to their citizens in Oregon, the Briti<^ . government would avail themselves of the delay ^.-^ ^\ take measures for securing the territory to her su.^^ ^^^ jects. Great Britain had already, by force and frauff*^' . „ ^ covered the world with more than a hundred col nios. She had done this by blood and carnage, ar. croachmd m violation of the rights ingc, nil. 1 ,u of all nations with whic^^JJ^'^ jia rivc^ only ■■jnts; bull she had l)ccn connected as an ally, or opposed to flu-i' ^^ ^^ a foe. The history of India would tell the whole si( ?;. ry. In the year 1600, during the reign of Que?"*"" I thus they would [ . , it i i u ndation, without t»» empt'cJ into Hudson's bay nthem. HehadW^y had, by virtue of a con nenla bv the »-nIiP'(*J>*'«"'«"'<^°'"P«"y» stretched acrosH to the IV pt thi. IVnprofcS *' ^'*" *^" f^'''y f ^'""r ^''''''j '" ft"' sary for the nnh <*•""'"''*'" coloniea, and one of the modpH of do- Bd for civil and coi *' ^"" *" opera'e through chartered companies, k' point ofTiew^'"P"''"^y"''*^"*"'°^ applying to the territory iuld be far more e« Oregon, and it would succeed there as well aa it coaat. ddonoelsewhcre, unless we should interfere in l»e- delav to do thf'^°^ """^ settlers to protect them, and give the no- ■e^on thA Rr;V^«Of the termination of the joint convention. VM of the deJnv^«'o"«" «?"""»" "'« year 1790, the British rov- erritorv to her su'**^"' claimed the right to make settlcmentH on the by force and Iraul*'^"* ^<'*'"" "°'"' "^ **^® Spanish settlements, ma hundred co »^»^' *'*'* '"'**" f''"'^" "" ^''^ °''^^'" '*'*'^' ""'* ^''^ »d and carnaffe ar****"'^^'"*""' "^ Great Britain were not observed, nations with w'hi' "'"S'** ^'^"' Britain had not only made settle- y or opposed to ■-"'^ ''^'"'^^ ''^^^ oldest Spanish settlements, but also I tell the whole St)*'*'*'"' ^^'""''*"'^*""' now come down to the Co- he rei»n of Que'"'''" ''''*^''' ^'■'g'"*"y> ^^^ territorial pretensions rcial purposeTwr'" °"*y ^ ''"'"'? ^"y""?', *'"' old Spanish scttlo- idventurers. Th'"'®' "*"" would come down to forty- desolation over th **' every crime, ever [A member here said, she is nearly there now.] id rapine was pe:Yes, sir, (said Mr. H.,) she will aoon be there, itory and of wealten if she is not there now. What, then, can be d prodigious v/nined by delaying the notice, which is the only I becan»e the themeans by which we can arrest her progress? Pro- ors and poets. lutination had been said to be the thief of time; ! invectives against in English diplomacy, it had proved to be the laden witJi horriiiel of territory. alk through earth.'While gentlemen talked of war, which only ex- ed in the visions of old men, or the dreams of e wretch; ,y„g (,„eg — while this bu£^bear was held up, we ""'' !re losing the opportunity to secure for our- .nii»i k • ''*'' *""' "ur children this most important ?j' „ ^"ween v.n^ valual)le country. What now would arise, was ison iJay Compa-iy an inference on the part of these gentle- g 18 notice,gy },mj i^Qt gjjown us the TOorfits opfvanrft. Butwejfuinre event.s; but coming events sometimes cast 11 know that the British pretensions would be ! their shadows before them. Judginj of the future snred them them that for Ui» llirre was no rttrcot fror i the renponxiiiiliiy of this act, wiilnut incurring th- ju.s; reproach of the people of the Unitt»d State;*, and, indeed, of the whole world. The Kxecutivc hnl preHPnted his views to Congress, and had rccom tiicndeii to n.s the piissage of the measure now he- fore in. He had (mked for our early artion upon it. The Htaie cry fif war ought not to prevent u.s from (iisr,liar;;itig thiw duty; and if we should fttltor in performing it, we should lie branded M unfaith- ful to our triiit. The Executive had laid before lK^ a Hfalrtncrit of our juRt r!:iiin.=i, .'•hnwing that they had a .solid and staMe basis. The whole world would be, convinced of tlicir truth and juKlice; and would an American Congrp?.s be found slow to defcnil and RMoert fliem? He (Mr. H.) would appeal again to the South, and to the spirit of theirfathciH — of .Sumicr, Marion, and Pinckncy — and cdll upon them to conrie up to tliia duty of de- fending our soil. Should fear of consequences pre- vent us from vindicating our rights from foreign aggreafcion? Should the horrors of war deter then; from pursuing their line of duty? Wi!l they not come up to the struggle, ifneed be, and like "reapers descend to the harvest of death?" True, the South has peculiar interedts that would be hazarded in a war; but lias not the whole Atlantic border a deep stake in the continuance of peace? We, sir, in the northeast have an extensive commerce. Our shipa are found in every s^ea, and we have cities on tno seaboard exposed to the assaults of an enemy. But, sir, we are willing to hazard everything in the de- fence of our country, and to lay all our wealth aa anotferingon the altar of the public safety. But who can believe, sir, that England will go to war, because we do an act that we arc entitled to do by treaty Ntipulation?? This was too absurd an idea to be for a moment entertained by any onq. But there was another view of tho subject. He did not pretend to be a wiz7,ard,nor to foretell fu- had submitted to engthened by our eternal delay. The longer by the past, he would say that the moral force of g rcauceu by, (|piay,;d the notice, the more arrogant would the i our institutions would spread themselves over every lorce, until nowjjjghpretensionsbecomc. Onepointmore. Ourold' way amountedjj, ^^^ gentleman from Virginia says, see visions, r millions. Tiie.: ° .i..»„_ ,i..„L„ tr-. .,„o „^, „i,i r young men dream dreams. I.'" .^A*"' *^?iihe could not sec visions; and the d Rams he left the )rce He was not old, oounty. Ana ^^ gentleman from Virginia. Let those who fK^' ^""'^janed imagine that a war will arise from our as- .. ^ °' "^/^«'™'^>rtiori of our rights; he did not believe it. But '" ? u li thout the aid of visions he saw a populous and en- _. saia he would pricing State on the slope of the Pacific, with m.m- nis government jjtures^ and commerce, and navigation. The me lor that, he ,1,^3 rushing down to the Pacific would turn to end It was jmiands of wheels and spindles. Our people would tlie attention of ^^ to that region, and carry with them all their r to show that gand skill in all the various branches of manu- son pay Com- -t^res which we have established in thii s region. portion of tliis continent. Their progress was as certain as destiny. He could not be mistaken in the idea tiiat our flag was destined to shed its lustre over every hill ami plain on the Pacific slope, and on every stream that mingles with the Pai ific. What would monarchical institutions do — what would tyrants do — in this age of improve- ment — this age of steam and of lightning? The mariner's compass, the .steam engine, the printing press, with the aid of electricity, which has anni- hilated splice, have made the world like the ear of Dionysius. The voice of freedom in our halls of wnr.'ilnp, in our temples, and the knowledge of our schools, may be heard in distant lands, and will be echoed back. Let there be r.o holding back, no and dij Horth y men: nified manner, meet the crisis in a way of our country, and as American atates- nciplea akin to ^^g time they will supply a large portion of [folding of anna in quiet; but let us rather, in a calm Toachments,be- n((rica, as veil ai A ■?!?, with their fabrics, turns in Oregon, [t would not be long before our settlements would We might, as tend down to the Mexican boundary. He appeal- progress to the to gentlemen from the South to come up to the ed and devas- jcue, and avail themselves of this fair opportuni- re the Hudson to obtain Oregon. Fie asked their attention to y those waters j position we occupied before the American peo- ) and the world, in regard to this subject, and u^- "Anl tlic gun of our nption's natal day. At thf! rise and ret Shall boom from the far northe.ist away To the vales of Oregon; Ai\il shipn on the soa-f^hore hifl'and taok, Aud send the peal of triumph back."